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Eritrea, the not so-tiny “Tiny Country”

Is Eritrea tiny? How tiny is it?

I will try to show that the myth about tiny Eritrea is simply a perception created by the chain of lazy journalistic work. Unfortunately, even Eritreans repeated that when describing their country to foreigners: “we are a small country by the Red Sea…”

Last December The Independent published a travelogue entitled, “Eritrea: A tour of the tiny African nation you never thought you’d visit”. It is a usual run of the mill article, and to some extent an illustration of a lazy journalistic work–if you read one, skip the rest because they are all either repetition or marketing content sponsored by tour companies to lure tourist. Focusing so much on selling air-tickets and hotel beds, the information they provide is a superficial description of the country and ignores the vital information about it.

In the so-described tiny country, Eritrea, which is not exceptionally tiny by the way, you are told you will find Palm Tree-lined streets, sidewalk cafés, Art-Deco—and many other portrayals with rundown terms—without which some Western journalists think their work will not be complete. Sometimes the writers think they made a novel discovery, leaving the readers pop their eyes. For instance, the Independent post states, “Europhile Asmarinos consider Keren another country!”

How about Europhiles from other regions of Eritrean?

For those who do not know, Keren is my hometown and the Independent has only the common traditional dress to explain why it seems in another country.

Most Eritreans know that Keren, the birthplace of Ibrahim Sultan, the first emancipator, has always been the center of Eritrean nationalism. Its history is no less significant—it’s where the final battle between the Allies (Britain) and the Axis (Italy) was fought; that battle heralded the end of Italian colonialism in East Africa. Keren is the most diverse, tolerant, and culturally rich town and it is located smack in the middle of a multi-religious, multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, and highly diverse region of Eritrea.

But I do not blame the Western writers that much since ignorance is prevalent even in our neighboring regions, even among Eritreans–the Eritrean narrative is crying to be heard. Until we find a way to do that, my heart goes to many Western writers who lack the wisdom of doing due diligence before writing mediocre, and laughable material. Incidentally, ignorance has always been our main enemy in the region; knowledge and enlightenment will certainly help us end the never-ending bloodshed that washed the region for centuries, and still is raging.
Our region’s problem has been its diversity and Eritrea is much influenced by its neighbors.

While the Afar straddle its eastern part and they have kin across the border in Djibouti and Ethiopia. The Beni Amer, Habab, and Maris have an extension in Sudan, The Tigrinya and Saho Speakers in the Highlands have kin in Ethiopia, and so do the Kunama on the Gash region. It’s natural that Eritrean segments are influenced by what happens across their borders. And remember, Eritrea is not tiny.

Population wise, Eritrea ranks 120th out of 223 countries in the world. Size-wise, it’s the 99th biggest country in the world. I feel not many realize these facts: there are many countries that you think are bigger than Eritrea when they are not. For instance, do you know Eritrea is bigger than Austria than the Netherlands, and than Switzerland?

The following are names of some countries that are smaller than Eritrea: Benin, Honduras, Liberia, Bulgaria, Cuba, Guatemala, Iceland, South Korea, Hungary, Portugal, Jordan, Serbia, Azerbaijan, Austria, United Arab Emirates, Czech Republic, Sierra Leone, Ireland, Georgia, Sri Lanka, Lithuania, Latvia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovakia, Dominican Republic, Estonia, Denmark, Netherlands, Switzerland, Taiwan, Belgium, Kuwait, Qatar, Jamaica, Lebanon, Cyprus.

Eritrea, the so-described “tiny country” is bigger than over a hundred sovereign countries in the world. And my hometown, Keren, is bigger than Mengeringhausen in Germany, and Gimmelwald In Switzerland, though Keren doesn’t have Glaciers or windmills. That is to say, it has a better climate and it is safer. Does anyone want to challenge that?

Now ask yourselves: why none of the countries listed above are described as a tiny country? Have you heard a Western writer refer to tiny-Austria or tiny-Netherlands? That is where lazy journalism stands naked.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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  • Halafai megedi

    Hi Nitricc

    Let me rephrase my point.
    With an unparalleled heroism and sucrifices, Eritreans fought against a formidable external enemy (1960-1991 and 1998-2000) and emerged victorious. Based on our past experience, we watchfully guard the main gates but we seem to neglect the danger that comes through the window that the confused, lonely, love-deprived, vindictive, old man is trying to open.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Halafi; I get it what you are saying but Eritrea and Eritreans have more than enough experience and have learned from past. Besides it is every Eritrean citizen destiny to sleep with one eye open. it is in our DNA.

  • Nitricc

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    Eritrea won its independence after thirty years of war with a very little moral or material support from the international community. Eritrea’s independence was mainly a result of a devastating armed struggle and bitter sacrifices. When it gained its independence, it was greeted by its neighbors as a bellicose newcomer. Two decades of economic and political isolation, orchestrated by the TPLF and the US, dimmed Eritrea’s bright hopes. This created among Eritreans a feeling of a beleaguered state. Eritreans, defiantly but with a sense of resignation, persevered the UN sanctions and isolation, the economic hardships and the deferment of their hopes for a vibrant democratic state. Others braved arduous journeys, through forbidding deserts and across treacherous seas, to seek a better life in another place. The Eritrean reality is shrouded by the sadness of its enormous sacrifices and graced by its indomitable spirit to stand for its rights as a nation.

    Isaias didn’t create the beleaguered state. He turned it into an impregnable fortress. A target of regime change policy, by the might of the US and [ deleted ] diplomacy of TPLF, he had no other choice but to fight on to break loose from this deadly chokehold. He gave this David vs Goliath fight his brand and flare. What he lacked in diplomatic tact, he made up for with his resilience. In the end he won, and Eritrea triumphed against external impositions.

    What did Eritrea gain from peace with Ethiopia? It will reduce the heavy toll the Eritrean people have had to bear to defend their country

    Hi All what Eritreans deny, it amazing Honest Ethiopians acknowledge. I will give you the link on the weekend but for know read the quote. I enjoy reading the truth.

    • Halafai megedi

      Hi Nitricc

      When Ethiopian elites deliver such a strong support to and endorsement of PIA, we have to be careful. I am sure it did not escape your attention that the newly (re)discovered love of expansionist Ethiopian elites to PIA is rooted on their hope and assumption that he may help them to achieve things that they were not able to achieve in the battle fields. ሰላሕታ ወራር redefined.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Halaf Megedi,
        ሕልፍ ክትብል እትድርብዮ ዘረባ ኣብ መሬት ኣይወድቕን።
        The “expansionist” has the right to dream. I agee with you, PIA is weakening Eritreans by constantly hacking the strong Eritrean-branch upon which he is sitting.

    • Paulos

      Nitrikay,

      That is a classic ህዝባዊ መኸተ BS!

      • Nitricc

        Hi P; may be to you but for me; the truth.

        • Blink

          Dear Nitricc
          It is the truth , most of the time honest people admit and face the truth but some people don’t even recognize their wicked plan was thrown out from influencing.For most Eritreans be it the west based opposition and the inside horrible life was just too long to wait but some people especially the weyane cry baby still are hoping for a dead weyane to wake up and help them get their dream come true.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi Hope,

    Now, you have made me calm down from my surprise. Thank you very very much my good friend. You know, it is my first time in my life to see “Hawan Bilina”. As you know, a cocktail could be sweet, bitter or directly to the bin according to the mixer utilized. This was my riddle to care and question humbly.

    Al-Arabi

  • Selamat Fanti the hippo wisest on Tekeze,

    Did not know where to jump in and so here I decided to address you. Indulge me a bit here and shed light to this ‘is it me or things seems to be like:’

    Ethiopians and Ethiopian issues of GiAnt Ethiopia are magnified even more when there is mention of “The Tiny Nation of Eritrea” is mentioned. I think you Ethiopians are up to something very big. Tiny Eritrea who? Take the discussions of Tigrai’s invoking article 39 such feuds between the horizons and hayat Adams. Yea yea tiny Eritrea who? Things are for sure scrambled and threatening to create more tiny Tigrays tiny Somali land tiny Oromo land etc… Eritrean yeah yeah to tiny so tiny not sure if it even exists?

    ?
    tSAtSE

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Brotherey GitSAtSE, I miss you!

      “Don’t call me Tiny” says SGJ, I mean Hikaru Sulu.

      Speaking of Horizon, he says it is okay to leave since we don’t have oil or anything anyway. I worry for the other Tiny with riches but our peaceful exit is assured.

      Just saying hello!

      • Selamat FantiGhana ohh wisest Hippo of Tekeze,

        I miss you too. You know who else we miss? The Admiral.

        You see there was a deal brokered, I have always suspected, circa six month or a little longer before the Eri-Ethiopia rapprochement. That time when electricity was to be delivered through the Sudan from Ethiopia to Eritrea. A three or four or more way deal that was testing the initial waters of rapprochement put together by a select few capable individuals. Then according to the agreements reached, which was not as desired by certain Pillar Ande. post the agreements and brokerage commissions distributions, limitations on their actions and statements was also binding and conditional. The very select few brokers were then left free to pursue other projects or personal endeavors. Before we can piece together and scrutinize or analyze those events the even bolder rapprochement PM3A seduction of IA rapidly followed, rendering the previous mute and forgettable.
        The problem is the Horizons’ mantra of “Tigray can leave since it does not have oil” yet pursuing or inviting Eritrea for “medemer” is nonsensical and counter intuitive. If Horizon wants Eritrea then he should know Tigray comes with it.
        And those of us who were left with only the hidden information or entropy post the initial rapprochement by the select few brokers are now glad and eager for their return AND….

        Don’t worry, its been awhile since you have read my abstractions that you should see as just my saying eagerly hello. Dreaming still of the blue island- the deal is still binding.

        tSAtSE

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    Yea sad. RIP.

    Here is a song I am literally obsessing with. “ምስክር” by ፍቅረኣዲስ! She has this heavenly voice. It is just incredible. When it first came out, couldn’t get enough of it and listening to it with no song in-between while driving till my kids got tired of it. She is hands down knock-out!

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    Funny and interesting!

  • Peace!

    Abish,

    እንደምታውቀው ይእማማ ነገር የነ ቶሎ ቶሎ ቤት ግድግዳው ሰንበሌጥ ነው. ኣሁን ደሞ ወደ ኢሱ… can Ethiopia stay single as a country?

    Peace!

  • sara

    dear sir,
    I say i am from Eritrea when ever i get asked by foreigners, the second question then follows
    where is that? then i say , its a “small country ” on the shores of the red sea in Africa.
    i dont know the difference between tiny and small for others but it sounds the same to me,
    isn’t Eritrea a small country ? for me when i say small i say it with a “small is beautiful”feeling.
    and to be frank, i cant tell why but i am happy we are a small country.

    • Nitricc

      current article

      • sara

        nit dear,
        yes, most are i think happy like you and me, but there are few who do not.
        we need to show them the beauty of small Eritrea…
        1st- socially harmonious “small” country.
        2nd- god fearing-nice and honest people
        3rd- hard working who like to earn from their efforts.
        4th-good climate, fertile land mass,virgin eco system
        5th- a long sea shore that is clean, safe, rich in fisheries
        you can add more… to the small is beautiful Eritrea–i am sure.

    • Haile WM

      Hello Sara,

      Being small is relative, small is in relation to something bigger.

      in the case of eritrea many westerners define it small (or tiny as in the article mentioned) and not definetly applied to countries wich are even tynier than eritrea.

      the article wonders why ?? maybe we eritreans are culpable of calling our nation “Small” even in the “small is beautiful” meaning of it…

      cheers

      • Paulos

        Selam Haile WM,

        The article was maybe addressing the kind of condescending tone that comes with the description “tiny.” What is equally interesting is that, as you put it, all nations or countries are the same where the difference is only in scaling.

        As you know, a new science if you will has been getting a heap of traction and attention across, otherwise known as, “Emergent Phenomena.” In fact, in the 90s, it was kind of hip to talk about “Fractals” where the idea of Emergence later on built upon. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense. What is really the difference between say, Eritrea and the largest country in the world—Russia? The difference is only in scaling. If we hypothetically reduce Russia to the size of Eritrea, we would see that, the fundamental difference is only in scaling—what Russia has essentially Eritrea has—mountains, rivers, buildings, roads what have you.

        The “Power Law” dectates just that where bigger roads or buildings are just a larger size of smaller roads and buildings. The idea of scaling is now shifting to Biology, for instance, where there is no much difference between us humans, say, and a bacteria, where we are just a blow-up version of a bacteria.

        More over, it gets more interesting when you see that the human circulatory system as in arteries, veins and capillaries are the same as the water system and all the water pipes or outlets in big or high rise buildings, including the electrical system—they are all the same in design. Again, the difference is only in scaling.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Paulo and all,

          I agree to the points mostly made with regards to the article and to SJ article. But I think being small sometimes can be a source of pride for some countries.

          The other day I guy I use to work from whose parents are from Croatia for lunch. It was a long time since we met and when we worked together we use to go out and watch soccer match.

          Off course we talked about the last world cup and he shared some of the colorful pictures he took with fans while they gathered to watch the game. His comments was, it’s a great achievement for such a small country to beat a lot of other countries who are much bigger to reach the finals.

          And last week I happen to watch clips of the “amissa bongo cycling” which was held in Gabon I think. And Team Eritrea won the team classification while they have done well at the individual level as well. This was not only African team but few from Europe and there were some big guys in the race as well. You should remember this name “Biniam Hailu” is going to be one of the best rides to watch. I think he is going to be bigger than Daniel T.

          Eritrea is a small country compared to the many African countries when it comes the population but it’s dominance on cycling is something to be proud of. I am happy to describe that, we are a small country but when it comes to cycling we dominate the continent, few weeks ago I told this women from Mauritius. She had no idea and she asked me, is Eritrea at higher altitude and I told her yes, the highlands. And she said, just like the Colombians then. And a while ago I think the guy who was a head of the S. African team MTN who had Daniel T. antd the tour described Eritrean riders will be the next Colombians which seems to reflect her comment.

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            Very tempting to describe it as “Napoleon Complex” where smaller countries work extra harder to make up for their either real or perceived shortcomings.

            In a more realistic point of view though, there is more social cohesion with in smaller countries where the degree of separation is narrower as almost everyone knows everyone. ከምዚ ንስኻ በርሀ ዓርከይ ኣብ ኤርትራ ፋሞዞ ዝነበርካዮ😂!

            P.S. In fact, an Anthropologist guy named Dunbar came up with this law [It is now called Dunbar’s Law or Number] in the 90s where he claimed that, the maximum number of real friends a person can have is 150. But his findings could as well be limited to bigger countries where in countries like Eritrea could be more.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulo,

            ፋሞዞሲ ትሕሾ ድአ

            Berhe

        • Haile WM

          hello Paul,

          everything in this universe at the end of the day, is a replica phenomenon with different degrees of scale, starting from the big bang, we are atoms or an aggregation of atoms, but I might be digressign now 😀 😀

          P.S. i remember the fractals in the 90’s I think it was Michael Crichton’s book Jurassic Park that made it Pop culture..

  • Brhan

    Hi all
    The message of the current article is : Is the term “tiny’ fare to be a label to our country.
    The writer has raised an important issue and I believe our comments should be
    1. who gave the term…of course it is the west…but did the west came with that term based on scientific study , research , fact
    2. Is this issue labeling a term related only to Eritrea or is it global….for example we have the terme Middle East … middle and east to who , of course to the UK but not to Peru. So what do the Peruvians call this area
    3. Is this related to Orientalist or globalism ….
    4. Earlier I indicated the term “the North Korea of Africa” to initiate discussions like the above #1, 2 &3

  • Saleh Johar

    Hope,
    I give up on you too. Thank you

  • Saleh Johar

    Guest.
    I give up. Good luck.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hope,

    Which statement from my comment is not true? Give it time, you will see the love and hate cycle of these two organization if you are young enough to witness it in the future.

  • Guest

    Hi All
    sorry for the several typos.

    please read: …. so many “Drs” who never wrote a doctoral thesis

  • Saleh Johar

    Wedi Hawey or Habtey,
    Pazienza as the Italians say. I will flood you on Friday.

  • Saleh Johar

    Abi,
    Yes. That too. The same proportion.:-). Jokes aside, I totally agree with you. We are taking serious issues like a promenade. And you can contribute to that greatly if you slowed in your mockery 🙂

  • Saleh Johar

    Oh my dear,
    I was very respectful and honest with you. Why the sensitivity. Okay, let’s ignore that. I will still do what I promised you. But you are wrong and I do not want to make an issue of your response.

  • Saleh Johar

    Abi,
    That’s funny. Are you manufacturing magnifying glasses yet? I thing 95% of the production should be distributed around your neck of the woods, I volunteer to distribute the 3% in Eritrea. That is what we need 🙂

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. The secret list of organizations/websites that have been supported by the TPLF over the past 2 decades to include those even now paid (unknowingly to PM Abiy) in advance (12 months) by the current Ethiopian Government will soon be made public. I have already seen the list. PM Abiy is furious, as well as PIA, and Ethiopian General Mesfin Amare has been detained. Guess who is on the list? ELF splinter groups extremely compromised! Shame, shame, shame…We know now clearly who is who! Game over!

    • Paulos

      FishMilk,

      Man, get a life. Will you?

      • FishMilk

        Hi Paulos. I fully (100%) know where you are coming from! Game over!

        • Paulos

          FishMilk,

          I actually agree with you. The grand game that had put Ethiopia on a pedestal of stellar economic and military including diplomatic finesse is over.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Paulos. LOL, LOL, LOL……Game Over!

          • Paulos

            FM,

            We used “LOL” to describe little old lady back in Med School when we had to use SOAP as in subjective, objective, assessment and plan on a patient.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Paulos. Wait and see the list! LOL, LOL, LOL…..

          • Paulos

            FM,

            ጋህጻጽ! ከመይ ኣስናንካ ኣስናን ዓባየይ ይኹና!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            If you know him he is here, to distract the on going educational debate, you don’t need to respond to him. After all he is a nameless coward from PFDJ mole.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            I don’t really understand why they are obsessing over Weyane like there is no tomorrow. I really don’t understand.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Paulos,

            Because it is the only formidable party (mahalelit) for “bad or good” that challenge them from the Ethiopian parties. Second they have a history of “love and hate intermittently”. When they love each other they join hand to defeat their common enemy. They defeat “Jebha Abay” jointly when they can’t individually. They defeat Derg jointly when they can’t do it individually. Third, when their “conflict of interest” becomes irreconcilable they hate each other to the extend of resorting war of annihilation. The border war (which was a cover up) was the result of their hate of each other for the power of upper hand in the region took tens of thousands of lives from both sides. This love-hate cycle of these two organizations will continue. The love and hate cycle has each its own half life where one eclipse the other revive keeping the behavior of the actors constant.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            I agree. Will try to say more tomorrow along the line of “Thucydides Trap” that could give us a broader context on why they went after each other in the end.

          • Selamat Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paulos,

            Ahhh, can’t wait for the general Thucydides with his Trap and the Water thing…

            “Ezgiheir zneQlo seb neyyteKhlo” Your grandmother is very wise, besides dental work is way too expensive.
            ?
            tSAtSE

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            u said ” this love-hate cycle of these two orgs(tplf and eplf/pfdj) will continue”, it shows that u came to the conclusion, the only hope for tplf to survive is by the help from eplf/pfdj(tplf’s enemy for 20 years), there is a saying for this, “desperate time calls for desperate measures”.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. Ongoing educational debate? And, not a single discussion line (avoidance as if it is the bubonic plague) on how to effect change or possible remedial steps short of complete removal of PIA/PFDJ regime? But rather, a preoccupation with lambasting PM Abiy, chasing conspiracy theories and ridiculing the the peace process? You can call me whatever you wish for the moderators allow you to do so) but I am hardly a PFDJ mole, having partially jumped ship in 1994 and completely so in 2001.

          • Amanuel

            Hi FM
            Forgive me but I can hardly differentiate your comments that of Harizon and you are saying “I am hardly a PFDJ mole, having partially jumped ship in 1994 and completely so in 2001.”

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amauel. What can I say. Many of the old EPLF (which ended with the PFDJ political party formation in 1994) and many of the former PFDJ members have either been imprisoned, given early pension, or neutralized.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ቃውሎስን ጸባ-ዓሳን፡
            ከምዚ ከማኹም ኣይስኣን። ተለፋልፉና ኣለኹም።

            ቃውሊስ፡ እዘን ጎራፍ ዓባይካ፡ ሰይቲ ኣቦይ ምራጭ ድየን?
            ተራእዩኒ’እኮ ክንቲኦም
            ጸባ-ዓሳ ዝብል ሽም ሰሚዖም
            ሎል ላላ ልሎ እዩ ዝበለ ተኻቲዖም
            ሎሊ ሎሎ ጸቒጦም ኣድሚቖም
            ክስሓቑ ኣእጋሮም ኣሳፊሖም

            ኣንቲ ክትስሕቅዮ! ኣስናንኪ ድርቅም ይበላ
            ናተይስ ቀደም ከይደን፡ ናትኩም ድኣ ንማይ-በላ

            ንኣኺ ይኸፍኣኪ ፍትፉት ከተኾልሲ
            ወይለከ ሎም’ዘመን በዚሑ ንባዕሉ ዘሳሲ

            ኣንቲ ኪዳነምህረት በሊ፡ ክንብኣስ ብጸባ-ዓሳ
            እህም! ድላይኩም ተዛሪብኩም’ሲ ደሓር ጣዕሳ

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            You’re something! I am still laughing.

            ሓወቦታተይ ምራጭን ቀሺ ደሞዝን ብሂወት የለውን። ዓባየይ ኣመተ ግን ናይ ዕድመ ጸጋ ተዓዲላ ብሂወት ኣላ። ኣስናና ካብ ዝኸዳ ሓያለ ዓመታት ኮይኑ። ፋልሶ ስኒ ከነግብረልኪ ተበልናይያ ዕጭለይ ኢላ ኣብያትና፣ her rationale being፣ ‘ዝጊሄር ዝነቐሎ ሰብ ነይ’ተኽሎ!

          • Haile S.

            Paul,
            I am still laughing myself hearing their conversation.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulis,
            That’s hilarious. Is she related to Ciccoi or Franco?

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            You wouldn’t believe it, as I was writing about ሓወቦታተይ, I had Stanley and Olie in mind.

            Franco and Ciccio ኣዘኪርካኒ and all the slapstick comedies including Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill. Good times!

          • Selamat Denmarkino AArkey Profesor Paulos,

            And my Mama angered by my antics at moments used to say that. I was sort of in a hurry to address Ayya Saleh regarding his recent confession about his not being such a good student and C+ performances. I ask my self is Ayya Saleh confession minded these days where he will next confess to you know who and go back to his beloved Tiny Keren? Similar to the fish that swam beyond the event horizon of the whirlpool that is sucking it with a force that is greater than the fish’s ability to swim away from such force, due to the law restricting it. The fish adheres to a law which states no fish can swim faster than the speed of sound.

            As for myself, though I will not confess it nor become confession minded I do admit I too was a horrible student. 6th grade, in Harlem 1981 6th month later I was in the Seventh dribbling up a basketball with time running out at mid court I decide to shoot the ball from mid court and all my teammates shouting no initially until the ball hit the backboard and into the basket as they screams switched to yes. I was such a horrible student they put me into a special education for such students… the only thing that matters is the basketball last second shot went in, counted and the game was over. So its time I address this “tiny nation Eritrea” tinier than a photon yet as powerful as a black hole where the information it consists of does not matter or count as far as we know or want to know. This tiny nation of Eritrea is like a basket ball team of ants, tSAtSEs, running full court against a basketball team of giraffes. As tiny as team ants they are they were dunking on team giraffes at will.
            Denmarikino AArkey Professor Paulos, Professor Leanord Suskind says the universe is a hologram. And I confess to Ayya Saleh “I write for hobby.” And now time to descramble the bits and bytes of information that not only can it be destroyed but also beyond particles, photons quarks and strings the bit of information is indeed the tiniest. Even tinier than Eritrea.

            And yeah the blackhole does evaporate and disappear.
            ?
            tSAtSE

          • Paulos

            ሰላም ጻጸ ዓርከይ,

            ኣበይ’ዳኣ ጠፊእካ? ናፊቕናካ ብዘይባኣኻ እንዳ ዓዋተ ዝሕልሕል እዩ ዝብል። Hope all is well with you.

            Yea that tough dude from New York, Leonard Susskind is something. Had to struggle to make sense of them Holograms he talks about.

            Luckly ዓባየይ had them figured out and explained them to me when she said, if entropy is the measure of the missing information and if entropy increases due to ካልኣዋይ ሕጊ ናይ thermodynamics, the missing information which is supposedly inside እቲ ጸሊም ሳጹን, the known ሓበሬታ, however, which is the other half of the missing information [the bits as in the particles come of as particle and anti-particle per ኣቦኻ ፖወል ድራክ] appears to the ever accelerating beings as in ንሕና ደቂሰባት as a hologram. In a sense, we have been dupped into believing that we live in a ኣርባዕተ ማኣዝናዊ reality, when we in fact are living in a hologram. ዓባየይ In fact told me the Tigrinya word for hologram but forgot it.

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ዶክቶር ጳውሎስ፣

            ኣይሰማዕካን ድኻ ግሳጸ ሶሎሙን ወዲ ሓወይ መንኮሱስ ገዳም ኣትዩ ነይሩ እንድዩ። ካብ መንፈሳዊ ናብራ ዓለማዊ ናብራ ናፊቁ ፈረስ ኮይኑ ናብ ዓዋተ ተመሊሱ እነሀልካ። እንቋዕ ደሓን መጻእካ ወዲ ሓወይ።

          • Selamat Haw Abuye Ayya Ismail AA, Denmarkino AArkey and all,

            Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paulos, though I think he meant to say Seleste maEzinawi, said:

            “In a sense, we have been duped into believing that we live in a ኣርባዕተ ማኣዝናዊ reality, when we in fact are living in a hologram.”

            Much like Plato in the allegory of the cave tells us of those chained, or duped to believe that their reality is the two dimensional, Kilite maEzinawi, shadows they observe on the wall, we are duped to believe that we live in a three dimensional, Selesste maEzinawi, reality, “when in fact we are living in a hologram.”
            A hologram is still a 3D image. But ArbaEte maEzinawi or 4D reality kabb belena Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paulos, as he is aware ours is in fact a Seleste maEzinawi tSilalot of a ArbaEte maEzinawi hypercube. Though Plato utilizes a two dimensional shadow of the three dimensional reality of the duped souls needing an awakening, in the cave allegory Plato had in mind our 3D shadow of the reality that is in fact 4D and higher dimensions.

            Yes other than Plato others, long before modern mathematics and Isaac Newton’s invention of calculus, tell us of the ArbaEte maEzinawi reality. Paul in Ephesians 3:17-19 speaks of the “breadth, and length, and depth and height” not restricting us to the material volume of l,h,and w. In the 12th century, Saint Bernard de Clarvaux describes God to Pope Eugene III as:
            “He is length, width, height and depth.”

            Note to Halaf Mengedi, entropy is simply any and all hidden information. So maybe we can say in Tigrigna entropy is HubuE Haberieta. For example entropy exists in a black hole much like HubuE Haberieta is all that exists in our current government of Eritrea. So you can say nayzii Haberieta zeyhib tSelim gudguad mengisti Eritrea, meAAkeni Hinfishfishu TTefiUna alo. That is to say GoE is full of entropy or Hinfishfish and Hinfishfish is not a kind of fish in the Red Sea.

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos and TsaTse,

            Have you seen latest interview of Elias Amare, Sophia and others. I am sure saay may have said something in his twitter.

            He was commenting with regards to some Ethiopians incorporating Eritrean in their map and painting it with Ethiopian flag.

            He was saying the Ethiopian government and I think he was expecting the Eritrean government to come out and condemn in strongest terms, just like the “Jews do when any thing related to antisemitism” is raised in Europe.

            Sophia tried to played it down and he disagreed with her.

            Let’s see how long this will last before he flips or he will attract more to his thinking.

            But regardless this is a very good progress to see the division and the PFDJ cracking down.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            Made an effort to listen to what they had to say but found it to be pretentious and less authentic to say the least and had to bounce.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Berhe Y,

            Let them bug out and uncover their masks in a broad daylight all to watch how far these phonies are liars. At present, the people of Eritrea have in their hands what they hear and watch on one hand and what these liars say on the other hand to judge for themselves and come to conclusion.

            Al-Arabi

          • Halafai megedi

            Hi P
            Perhaps Haile S. can help us in unearthing the Tigrina word for a hologram in the context of its cosmological and quantum mechanical meaning and implication.
            Here is my attempt:
            hologram: ሃጠው-ቀጠው ናይ ትዐዘብቲ ኮዋኽብቲ

          • Paulos

            Halafi,

            Till the master polyglot [Hailat] gives his verdict, you got my vote.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            Don’t expect to get equivalent words in tigrigna for all scientific terminologies or languages. For some of them we have to take them as is.

          • Halafai megedi

            Hi HM

            nothing wrong with having a bit fun, playing with words and languages, and, as a result and in the process, learning from each other.

            It seems that the old school/thought of knowledge transfer (ስላዕ) had left a strong imprint on you!

            So be a bit relaxed and be prepared for more!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam HM,

            Do you mean trasfer is “ሳላዕ”? I know ሳላዕ for two other meaning but not for transfer, if you mean it that.

          • Halafai megedi

            No, I mean ስላዕ (በትሪ) a stick with which students are disciplined in school.

            To my knowledge ስላዐ has two meanings:

            1) ስላዐ፥ a thin branch taken from a tree or a bush
            2) ስላዐ፥ synonym to ምቅሊት

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam HM,

            Now agreed. When I say two other meaning, it was exactly for these two.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            That is a good point. I agree but at some point, we gonna have to conjure up equivalent words for it is a sign of self-sufficiency in its own right.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Dr. Paulos and HM,

            In fact ሃጠው-ቀጠው is a perfect translation for entropy.

            hologram is perhaps ውቃበ as in ውቃበኻ ትርሓቕ but I rather wait for the professor too.

          • Halafai megedi

            Hi FG

            entropy and its manifestation in the physical world is relatively well understood. So it is not in the realm of ሃጠው-ቀጠው. I think መዐቀኒ ሕንፍሽፍሽ is a more appropriate translation until somebody comes with a better one.

          • Haile S.

            Morning guys,
            ሓላፍ መገዲ፡ ኣሎ’ዶ ከይዱ? ከምኡ እኳ ኣብ መገዲ ቀንፈዘው ዝብል ርኢና ኣይንፈልጥን! Halaf Megedi, stay, I am joking.

            ወሪዱኒ ዒሉ፡ መልሓሰይ ኣጽርየ ትግርኛ ዘይተዛረብኩሉ
            ናይ ሃዋሁ ነገር ኣይርድኣኒ፡ ጽዓት ሃዋሁ ካይተትሕዙኒ
            Hologram በሉኒ! ሽዓ ሽዓ ኣዒንተይ ጽልግልግ ይብላኒ

          • Halafai megedi

            Hi P
            how would you translate entropy in Tigrina?

            1) ጥቅሚ-ኣልቦ ጽዐት
            2) መዐቀኒ ሕንፍሽፍሽ

          • Paulos

            Halafai,

            That actually is ingenious. መዐቀኒ ሕንፍሽፍሸ is spot on. It makes sense in the sense that, entropy was derived to describe the nature of gases and as you know, gas derived from the word “chaos” and as you have aptly put it, chaos is ሕንፍንፍሽ.

    • Mez

      Hi FishMilk,

      Paying for opposition websites is not a bad thing. Under the currennt strong peace wind, I assume the Eritrean government have responsibility to support them on this.

      Further, the pia government shall make–sooner than latter–a call for all to come home. Eritre is big enough for all!

      It is time for everyone to look forward. We can not live in the past forever.

      Thanks

      • Blink

        Dear Mez
        Stop dreaming about this come home thing. It will not happen.

        • Mez

          Hi Blink,

          I thought about “come home” again and again.

          Any better point to start?

          Thanks

          • Blink

            Dear Mez
            The better one would be let’s go home crush the monster , that’s my only thing that I can see. The reason is because the man will not invite anyone. I mean we have enough from everything about his offer .

          • FishMilk

            Hi Mez. Foremost, PIA needs to release political and religious prisoners. It is incredibly sad that nothing is moving forward in this regard. This matter is boiling in Asmara these days.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Mez and thanks for your comment. I have always believed (more so before the peace agreement) that opposition parties/movements would have far more credibility should they be based outside of Ethiopia and have no fund connection.

      • Nitricc

        It is time for everyone to look forward. We can not live in the past forever.

        Hi Mez; you mean like this hahahahah

        https://i.imgur.com/ZGHblQr.jpg

    • Blink

      Dear FM
      Why should it be shame ? I mean these websites are the voice of Eritreans if in fact Eritrean websites are in the list . Remember Senaa Forum money ( aka weyane entire pocket) money was spent on the name of Eritreans for Justice. Eritrean websites who are doing the fight more than the organizations sponsored by weyane. Come on , Issias spend millions may be hundreds of millions on Ethiopian opposition and some of these opposition are against the sovereignty of Eritrea. The dictator supporters are the one to feel the shame. Give us the list , let’s see who are these you know.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Blink. It is both a matter of credibility (since the peace agreement has been signed) and hidden motive. While ELF based opposition groups are now splintering and fighting amongst themselves, they are one in the same in their desire to completely remove, not only PIA and senior PFDJ members, but also middle and junior PFDJ members, so that they may usurp power. We do not need anarchy. Change definitely needs to take place but not at the risk of chaos akin to Somalia.

        • Blink

          Dear FM
          Forget these people because these people allowed weyane to create divisions in between them and the money spent on them is not really help for Eritrean opposition or justice seekers as some call them , I was only interested if there is a list of Eritrean websites , that is my only wish unless these sagim , Islamists and ex ELF are all a liability to the opposition and I hope they get lost once for ever as they are an obstacle to a united front against. PFDJ .By the way PFDJ Lower part are not that much interesting in confrontations between because these people are very useful to the safety of Eritrea at the time of crises .

    • Amanuel

      Hi FM,
      Supporting opposition organisation and websites is not a secret. The secret we are expecting to see is why TPLF didn’t support them full-heartedly? Why they didn’t match IA like for like?

      • FishMilk

        Hi Amanuel and thanks for your comment. At least before the peace agreement, before Ethiopia (PM Abiy) unconditionally accepted the EEBC border ruling, and in viewing matters thru an Eritrean lens, comparisons between PIA support to Ethiopian opposition groups was contextually very different from Ethiopia (TPLF) providing support to Eritrean opposition groups, for Ethiopia was illegally occupying Eritrean land, and not vice versa. People sometimes forget that illegal occupation of another country by force in the case of Badme, is in itself an act or war.

        • Amanuel

          Hi FM
          I am not discussing whether it was justified or not. I am just curious to know why TPLF didn’t give up on IA and support the opposition as he did with Ethiopian opposition, even though most of funds were coming from Egypt.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel. Are you saying that the TPLF has not supported Eritrean opposition groups based in Ethiopia?

          • Peace!

            Hi FM,

            I think he is right. TPLF did not support Eritreans in a way they can function independently. And the consensus is that TPLF and its supporters didn’t give up on DIA till he appeared in Gonder to locate his grandfather’s grave.

            Peace!

          • FishMilk

            Hi Peace! I hear what you say but respectfully disagree as I am aware of opposition group involvement in several border area -sorties- military attacks on Eritrean forces (i.e. 2016) over the years.

          • Peace!

            Hi FM,

            It is not a secret TPLF was setting the agenda and financing the presence including meals, accommodations and entertainments. Your point of disagreement seem to imply a united and organized opposition groups manged to get enough support from TPLF but failed to defeat the then weak and isolated regime. I think that is more undermining than denying the fact.

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi FM,

            ጭግራፍስ ባዓላ ሃሪማ ተእዊ፡ እዩ እዚ ናትካ ነገር፡፡

            Berhe

          • Amanuel

            Hi FM
            Their support was passive and divisive.

    • Peace!

      Hi FM,

      Why not except the fact that TPLF not only didn’t support the Eritrean cause but it created divisions that still lingering to this very day, and now its all options on the table strategy continues to interfere in Eritrea’s internal matters and dragging Eritreans to its rescue. For some reason it seems saving TPLF is more urgent than rescuing Eritreans from the jaws of the dictator.

      Peace!

  • Saleh Johar

    Hello Guest,
    Just wait for Friday and I will give you all the links, compiled, all of them. You have to promise me to read them attentively and then we can be on the same understanding. Based on what you get, if they satisfy your quest, well and good, otherwise, I promise to answer all your questions to the best of my ability. I am also sure many others here will contribute to that. I consider you a sample of our youth, who lack the historical perspective and could feel lost or confused. That is a worthy task and I am willing to take it. I will give you everything and then you make up your own conclusions. Just don’t get bored 🙂

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selamat Hailat,

    “…Someone who manages this ambition of grandeur and works to make Tigray a smooth player of healthy relationship between the two countries…”

    I can’t agree more. Although we have had opportunities to do so in the past, we failed. Let’s hope that we have learned a lesson and improve this time.

    As you well know, we are pushed and pulled with equal force of being core of Ethiopia in one hand and the glaring fact of being kith and kin to Eritreans in the other.

    That push and pull, as advantageous as it should have been comes with some challenges. Understandably and all other scenarios being equal, Eritreans would be more suspicious of and/or easily offended by a Tigrayan verses others, and some non-Tigrayan Ethiopians can’t help it but to question Tigrayan’s “Ethiopiawinet” because of Eritrea.

    So, yes, we definitely need far-sighted and courageous Ethiopians as well as Eritreans who can put all that into proper perspective and lead us out of this quagmire into a safer place.

    • Haile S.

      Fanti,
      I also agree with you. But you have been pushed and pulled for just 6 tiny months. Eritrea was kicked with Meles & Co boots for 6yearsX3. Patience please! 🙂 🙂 :-).

  • Saleh Johar

    Oh Kogne,
    You insist on staying on my back 🙂 Try debating issues without attacking people. You will feel good about it.

    Anyway, leaving your hyperbole and bravado aside, I suggest you spend some time learning before you make statements pretending you know your subject matter. There is a difference between maintenance of something already built, and building something from scratch. The road was initially built by the Italians. However, I said it is not the Keren-Asmara road, but the old Asmara-Massawa road. That road is older than the Keren one.

    On change, it is only the PFDJ that defies evolution. Everything evolves into something else–so does society and Keren, or any other spot in the world. That they call stating the fact. If you state that things change, you might think you are saying a novel thing, but it is a fact, qemem.

    You wrote, “you [meaning, me, Saleh] don’t want to hear, see anything good about Eritrea, why you don’t go to Eritrea and publish your own story…”

    Do you really believe in that trash you wrote? Do you have any moral guidance at all? Why describe people with what they are not. What do you gain from such sadistic gestures? I wish I knew how to pray, I would have prayed for you to have some fairness and sanity.

    I will say this for the last time: stop blaming the victims and do not talk about something you do not know anything about. I cannot go to my country because I do not know how to maneuver the stuff you do with the authorities when you go there. I simply can’t. But I am not blaming you for going there and feeling good that me and people like me cannot go to their country. What an evil mind thinks like that?

    Then, I know the regime you support thinks sleeping on a bed and sitting on a couch is a crime. If they can, they would condemn all Eritreans to sleep and sit on the ground–you and your government are promoters of poverty and misery. Anything you touch becomes acidic. Can you try to dream prosperity for your people? And you do not know one thing about my life–and I do not like Hamburgers because I see next you will say something from the playbook: hamburger enda belaAka…

    If you have nothing useful or thoughtful to say, please refrain from scribbling foolish comments. Please help us keep this forum enlightening and civil. You can do that by trying hard, very hard, to be decent

  • Nitricc

    Hi Guest; very true. It is amazing how time can change everything. all in all TPLF is done! of course it will exist for ever in the likes of Hayat’s head but when you see Bereket Simon in Bahirdar jail; nothing suggests the end of TPLF. Bereket was the engine of TPLF’s power after PMMZ’s death. I don’t think Bereket is criminal than the other TPLFiest but the Amara wanted to show the death of TPLF.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selamat Abisha,

    ከመመላለሱ መለሳለሱ እንድትል? No way man!

    By the way, Ag’azian = ነፃ ኣውጪ in Ge’ez, but who phrased the word in the first place? Hint: it is not Tigrayans nor Eritreas who originally mentioned it.

    • Haile S.

      Fanti,
      Let me try to answer this. Aba Gorgoryos, Ras Abi’s great great… great grandfather from Mekane Sellasie (in Gojjam or Shoa ??) and transliterator of Hion Ludolf.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Dr. Paulos,
    Thank you, dear. I was distracted by other personal routine.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi Hope,

    Excuse me. I think once I have read in one of your comments that you are from Bilen. Are you really from Bilen?

    Al-Arabi

  • Ismail AA

    Selam all,

    Thoughtful article. People sometimes do not realize some of the so called
    big countries within recognized boundaries are in fact constellations of tiny countries – some of them tinier than Eritrea. These are countries that stay in perpetual travail (labour if you like) to be born as coherent nation-states.

    • Paulos

      Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

      Glad to see you back. Hope all is well with you.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Ismailo,

      Good to see you back buddy.

      • Ismail AA

        Ahlen Aman H,
        Thank you, dear. It’s joy to be home.

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Ismail,
          Welcome back. I missed your interjections and intelligent comments.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Saleh,

            Thank you, sir. Awate.com has assembled lots of resourceful participants. Absence of humble persons like me won’t make a big deal. I was distracted by the routine of survival in exile.

            As you know fate had conspired with Isayas’ cruel betrayal to land Eritreans like me in host countries at last quarter of our productive work phase of life when we thought we had gotten back our country. Laws pertaining to old age days penalize us for not contributing to development and progress of our second countries. I am talking about pension and regulations and struggling to cope with new the new situation.

  • Mez

    Dear Saleh J,

    An outstanding observation.

    When a journalist offer something new, there is also a question of newswortyness. What ever they offer it have to be catchy, provocative, or a sort of illusive in one’s imagination.

    While reading this misplaced “tiny country” thing, you reminded me another extreme thought circulating in the society:

    A sort of we are the strongest, we are the best, we are the furthest,…. there by making everything socially vital and important “masked, miniatured, and destroyed”–hence we (as a society) are on a dangerous disoriented and self destructive path.

    Thanks

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Mez,
      You are right, I do understand the importance of provocative and catchy headlines. It depends on how far you want to take it and for what purpose.

      I also agree with you that on the opposite side of the “tiny-Eritrea” belittling, there are the arrogant, fascistic postures. You are absolutely right. My problem at this time is that the belittling is way more than the Bravados. And in such situation, some Eritreans lose their self-confidence and act as if Eritrea is a valueless stripe of land only fit to be the backyard of the dictator. The challenge as I see it, Eritreans do not have problems of unity, but the fact that many have lost hope and self-esteem. We have seen the campaign designed and executed to achieve this result and to some extent, it has achieved its goal. Therefore, it is upon u to restore our self-confidence and self-esteem— and my article and a few things I have been doing must be seen from that context

  • Kaddis

    Selam Gash Saleh – lovely read.

    Ethiopia probably suffers from not knowing how big ( and diverse ) the country is. That’s why we only want to rule the entire country from the centre, people get frustrated and violence follows and repeat…

    Blame it on our geography classes we once shared? :- ) A Kenyan agriculture related programme manager wodaj of mine once complained – what’s wrong with you Ethiopians and geography? I found a great Ethiopian agri expert fit to hire for Africa wide programme and one interview question was – how many countries you pass to reach Cameroon from Ethiopia? And the guy stopped at Sudan :- )

    Cheers,

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Kaddis,
      That’s funny… but what is Cameroon? Is it a river 🙂

      You would be amazed how many of those who want to re-invade Eritrea can locate it on a world map. The jingoists are just that. The sad thing is their ignorance is “lekemeke” and we all suffer from their foolishness. We have many of them in the entire region, but I think reigning over them will be easy for us, because we are “tiny-Eritrea.” I worry about the rest 🙂

  • Hayat Adem

    Dearest HSGJ,
    Indeed, Eritrea is never tiny in absolute and relative physical terms. In functional terms, however, there is a risk of growing tiny. But I say your worries of the misperception are misplaced.
    Today, size or status has become strictly transactional. It is what you contribute to the market as a consumer and supplier that determines your status. You can be a big country but a small in terms of influence. You can be well endowed with resources, but still be counted as small. You can also be small like Israel and Qatar, but giant at the world stage.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hello Hayat,
      Thank you for the note. But you are missing a point. In casual discussions or communications, it not natural to go into in depth economic or other analysis which needs a different context and reason (for writing in my case) . I am interested in the casual (lazy) description that leave a wrong perception. What I tried to do was to remind people their tiny-Eritrea description is wrong. Once they know it is wrong, I hope they correct it. Repeating “tiny” without thinking about it but simply because it is a commonly used term is wrong. However, in a different setting and context,what you said is right

    • Brhan

      Hello Hayat,
      I believe the root cause is because the terminologies that we use are produced in the west and we adopt them because we are not able to come with any. We come across the terminologies not because western journalist created them but use them. They are created in research centers.
      Look the term given to Ethiopia ” Christian Island”. Which Ethiopia? Today’s Ethiopia? Halide Selalse”s Ethiopia. But now Ethiopia has a locally produced terminology which was internationally announced in Davos, called Medmer.
      What the article trying to say is that this terminology “tiny’ is western and serves the western interest. And because it doesn’t serve us , we won’t accept it. Just like Ethiopians , particularly Ethiopian Muslims won’t accept the Xian Island term

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam wechegud,

    Hold that thought. That is phase II. Amhara will claim Raya and Wolkite (there is no shame) and/or Tigray will claim Alewuha and Angereb (thus becoming 112C) and the fight will continue! So, don’t worry, we will invent other excuses for a fight in case that fails.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam fanti g
      do u agree wolkite/stegede and raya(u:)) to have a say freely on who they r? I mean to decide their own identity freely according to the constitution?

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam TA,

        Oh yes! Definately and absolutely!

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam fanti g
          Thank u and there will not be a problem.

    • weichegud

      Selam Fanti,
      Unfortunately, you are right. Maybe in another hundred years, we will stop and ask why are we fighting.

    • Haile S.

      ሓደርካ Fanti,
      You are the first Saint to be returned to purgatory for his sins by the guardian of paradise, HA. Satan didn’t get that privilege. Just want to let you know of my response to you and the only ራስ here in a comment to his comment below, that Discus is keeping it pending for now.

  • Lamek

    Hello Dear forumers from Tiny country and Huge country.
    The Tiny designation on Eritrea comes from the fact that it separated from a much bigger country. It is very simple really. Whether we like it or not, Eritrea is seen in comparison to Ethiopia in all regards, geographical size, economy, population, natural resources, etc. We have not completely parted ways, in image. In addition, the separation was not a natural separation in the sense that somehow most people in the world believe that Eritrea and Ethiopia are the same and when they learn they are not, they see that one is huge and the other is Tiny. Nobody is comparing Eritrea with Gambia or Iceland. Everybody is comparing Eritrea with Ethiopia. “I am from Eritrea, which used to be a part of Ethiopia and it gained independence in 1991. Let me show you one the map, ‘now the white guy is seeing two countries, one huge and one Tiny.'” The same with the journalists who are being accused of being lazy. The analogy between Keren and Asmara is the same.

    What is the deal with the flag? Eritrea now has a UN recognized flag whether it carries quolle colors or rainbow colors. Unless and until it is changed by a future government, in whatever way (democratically or by force), what we got is what we have. We have to deal with that. The population of Eritrea is largely under 30 (post independence). Most of never seen this flag ever. Why should that be their fight? Let’s hand them a more useful baton than an obsolete flag. For example, a baton we can pass could be a way of involving a public process on how a flag should be developed that represents the symbolizes what is important for the people. The current one actually does except that it was done by the IA regime.

  • Brhan

    Kafo Haleka Wald Keren Tsaa’data!!

    It is nice article.

    What about the north Korea of Africa?

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello Memhir and Dr. Paulos,

    Eritrea is comfortably in the first half of world countries listed by size.
    The following countries are smaller than Eritrea, and there is nothing “tiny” about them.

    106 Eritrea
    107 Iceland
    108 Korea (South)
    109 Liberia
    110 Malawi
    111 Portugal
    112 Hungary
    113 Jordan
    . .
    154 El Salvador
    154b Tigray Republic
    155 Israel
    . .
    256 Monaco
    257 Vatican City

    What is more, South Korea has population of 50 million (roughly 10 times that of Eritrea) and they don’t seem to run out of “space,” really.

    • Saleh Johar

      Welcome back Raasi Fanti,

      That is what annoys me the most. Eritrea’s population has the potential to grow in number as South Korea. Also, now we will not have water-supply problem after we acquired the new territories including Lake Gash 🙂

    • Paulos

      Selam Fantination,

      Welcome back! Hope all is well with you.

      154b 😂. Tigrai Republic? ኣበይ’ሞ ተጌርኩሞዶ!

      • Teodros Alem

        selam paulos
        if other non tigrai person said what u said above, the whole of tigrai in this fourm will start crying because they feel loser and start nonesense argument. but for a person like me who knows there r unreconcable issues between ethiopia(spacially amara) and tigrai what u said above makes a lot of sense. i mean people has to know the current reality and psychological mindset differnce is not sustainable and a win win plan is a way forward and for the first time when it comes issues like this, agree with u .

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat Dr. Paulos,

        “ተጌርኩሞዶ!”
        I am as clueless about current Ethiopian politics as someone in the Eskimos but judging from the little pieces I have it does not look good.

        I have never witnessed this many Tigrayans contemplating the idea of separation before as I do these days. I won’t be surprised if some “TPLIFite” declares article 39 in the near future.

        Until recently, it was always non-Tigrayans who mention secession or article 39 vis-a-vis Tigray mostly because they don’t understand the depth of the psychological makeup of Tigrayans regarding Ethiopia, but nowadays, Tigrayans are discussing it in the open.

        There may still be time to save the country from disintegration, but too many short sighted politicians are scaring the heck out of me. I hope courage and sanity will prevail.

        There was news a day or two ago about Ethiopian Embassy in London displaying Ethiopian Map which included Eritrea. Many Eritreans shouted, Ethiopia apologized for the “mistake”, and all is well. However, the superstitious that I am, it made me think that we may well be a cursed region after all.

        As Eritrea is “warming up toward Ethiopia,” Tigray is “exploring all her options.” Both ideas would have sounded incredibly ridiculous some months ago.

        • Paulos

          Selam Fantination,

          First of, as you know, it is not unusual for nations to break off or come together. One can cite Singapore and Malaysia or Cameroon and Nigeria or the entire Yugoslavia. If we push it a bit further, Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires come to mind as well.

          Most of the time than not, nations could be better off to chart ways on their own as opposed to be part of a greater entity as in a multinational entity. This is to say that, it is not a curse. It becomes a curse only when humanity loses its mental faculty of engaging in civil discourse and resorts into violence instead.

          One is hard pressed to find any commonality between the politics at the federal level particularly in terms of safeguarding the interests of the states [Kilils] and the political players with in the Kilils where they see each other not as partners for a common purpose but as enemies. If the Tigrean people for instance are siding with the Kilil government as opposed to the Federal, the solution is not narrowing differences or reconciliation, for the gravity is rooted with in the breakdown of the very document as in the Constitution that was supposed to be the legal guarantee of the people in question. What good is there for the people if the Constitution is rendered moot—at least in terms of its applicability? In a sense, they are not “already” part of the larger family or community.

        • Selam Fanti Ghana,

          Oddly enough, now there are many ethiopians as well who say, why shouldn’t tigray go her way, as long as she is not either with ethiopia or away from ethiopia. Why should the ethiopian government continue to support a state which tries to blackmail it with secession, and independence has always been its dream anyway, and the reason tplf remained a LF.

          I do believe that ethiopians have crossed that line of fear, and it remains up to tplf to make a clean divorce, if it insists. After all, article 39 was not born in a vacuum. It had its own purpose, mainly to blackmail. A marriage with out consent and the necessary heart and mind, may lead to a disaster. Here is the chance for tplf to use it if the people of tigray agrees, or force them to agree. Tplf has the power within tigray to have its way.

          Tigray is not a region that goes away with her rich oil fields or rich resources like south sudan, or her developed industries, or her high standard of living.
          Do you believe that ethiopia will disintegrate if tigray goes her own way? I personally do not believe it.

          Identity politics, and the politics of my way or i will make my own choice (separate), is a failed politics, especially when it concerns poor countries that can’t succeed alone. One thing is for true, tplf dictatorship will flourish in tigray, and they may even turn her to the next north korea and a failed state, with all the consequences.

          • Hayat Adem

            Horizon on a slippery slope,
            Horizon: Ethiopians don’t care for Tigray because Tigray is not going away with her rich oil.
            I never knew this guy would come to say this. The other day, Abiy whom this guy worships, was saying Tigray is the engine of Ethiopia. This Horizon himself was saying Tigray is the center not periphery. He was arguing against letting Badime go.
            He is in complete shift of position now for the worst. now, he is lobbying for Tigray to go. He is reminding them of 39. He is begging them “please go”. When Abiy spoke of the Massawa-Addis railway, he said Massawa Addis is shorter via Afar, a hate-sriven error. He is not actually a horizon, not even close. Maybe a here-zone. That was why I suspected of something to do with personality. Sir, IT IS NOT UPTO YOU. The Tigreans also have other ways of fixing this problem, by fixing you. They have been doing that in the past, I hope they do it again. Of thye don’t Ethiopia will disentegrate soon before Tigray considers of divorce. You talk of an oil or other resources. I think they will be self sufficient for the most part should that be the last resort. If they decide to kick you out, here-zone, you will have to come up with a new narrative. Ethiopian narrative stays with them. You will map a new one.

          • Guest

            Hi H. A.

            As an Eritrean, why are so concerned about Tigray, an Ethiopian issue. In his hate-driven haste, Horizon forgot that Tigrai is a champion in unearthing and exporting ኹዕንቲ።

          • Selam Hayat Adem,

            Ethiopians are not going to be intimidated or blackmailed by tplf with its independence mandra. Ethiopians are not going to babysit tplf and their supporters. That is the simple message you have to understand.
            Ethiopians are telling your tplf, if you want to stay, then stay like anybody else; if you want to go, መንገዱን ጨርቅ ያርግላችሁ.
            Nobody is going to bribe tplf with power and money, other than what they have looted up to now, so that they remain. You, an eritrean is conspiring with tplf against the ethiopian government and the interest of the people of tigray. This is very suspicious, to say the least.

          • Hayat Adem

            Horizon,
            What is the interest of the people of Tigray, that is if you claim to know it? How am conspiring against the Ethiopian government? Is asking the Tigray people to go መንገዱን ጨርቅ ያርግላችሁ the interest of the Ethiopian government? Are you part of the government?
            You are full of yourself. Who gave you the power of asking the entire region to stay or to go? I think the Tigray people know better and you know them very well. They arw not 5he kind of people you can messbup with and push them around. If you do, they will come again straighten you up and make you behave. The Tplf are not asking for any power now. They left it for others. But if you don’t know what to do with it, they can get it back and you guys will change your intonation be tamed a little bit from your zeraf akaki zeraf.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hayat Adem

            “The Tplf are not asking for any power now. They left it for others. But if you don’t know what to do with it, they can get it back and you guys will change your intonation be tamed a little bit from your zeraf akaki zeraf.”

            I think you’re angry. Please take time out to cool off.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hayat Adem,

            I should respect what ST asked of me, and i will stop here. In the meantime, it is not a bad idea to laugh a little bit with what you said. It is so hilarious and so naive.

          • Hayat Adem

            Horizon,
            Good, if you find something to laugh at. But there is nothing naive about it. Things have to be said sometimes so that things are not said.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam hayat habibi
            I bet u will not brag like u bragging right now once the looted money minimize.in 2-3 years.

          • Paulos

            Hayata,

            Do you see how clueless and completely out of touch these people are? Oil is the thing of the past! Nations including Saudi Arabia are diversifying their portfolio simply because the future doesn’t belong to oil anymore. The future belongs to ideas and investing on human and social capital. And Tigrai owns plenty of the latter!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam paulos
            do u have any idea, what percentage of people from each kilil joining to university and graduated from university? if u knew that, u will not dare to say what u said above.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Horizon,

            As I said, I am not well versed in current Ethiopian politics, I am not representing anyone, and I don’t have insider’s knowledge of what majority Tigrayans are thinking.

            So, whatever I am saying is just me and me alone with my observation of a handful of inviduals. For that reason it is better if you don’t read me as representative of majority or a great number of Tigrayans.

          • Nitricc

            Do you believe that ethiopia will disintegrate if tigray goes her own way? I personally do not believe it.

            Hi Horizon; I disagree. If Tigray to exercise article 39 and move on; then the Somali kilil is to follow the Afar Kilil and the rest is history and the end of united Ethiopia. The best is to work out the problem with TPLF and federal government.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam.Nitricc
            Have u ever been to ethiopia? when eritrea was part of ethiopia, eritrea was 100 times powerful than tigrai right now. i can guaranty u this, if tigrai exercise artical 39 and move on, no where and no body in ethiopia will feel the impact of it for a second, nobody and no region will be affected, except in a social media when they bark.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; When Eritrea left. she did so by force. Eritreans had to fight for 30 long years. So the other Ethiopians provinces couldn’t and wouldn’t put up what Eritrea sacrificed. But now thanks to TPLF provinces can exercise constitutionally article 39 to be gone. So, if Tigray to use it, well I guess it is their constitution right.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            That was why i asked u, have u ever been to ethiopia?
            yes it is thier constitutional right,
            i can not say same thing for somali kilil and tigrai kilil, but for the rest it is impossible for so many reasons, 1st, i don’t think the people will like to separate and it is not practical.
            amara kilil has more possibility to separate than oromia or south or gambal and so on.

          • Selam Nitric,

            Ethiopia had been said to be disintegrating since her inception. That was the rhetoric, the propaganda and the myth ethiopians were fed by the tplf camp that ethiopia will not exist without tplf at the helm of power, and unless the golden tplf rules ethiopia. Do you remember HSI and the derg, they were saying exactly the same thing, and ethiopia still exists. I will add this: without the rest of ethiopia, tplf will be committing suicide.

            Remember, this is mainly the choice of the hallucinated tplf and their supporters, who are intoxicated with power and big money, and it is not the choice of the people of tigray. Nevertheless, tplf and its supporters have made the people of tigray the other side of the tplf coin, so that the people would share the price of tplf’s crimes and corruptions. Don’t forget, if you say tplf they will say tigray, and they will not let you separate the two.

            Tplf had a paranoid hegemonic dream of either ruling ethiopia in a dictatorial way or break her up. Ethnic politics was the poison, and controlling the military, the security, the economy, the political landscape and the use of hodam proxies was the way to implement its hegemonic pax tplf with stick.

            No ethiopian is going to kneel down to tplf and beg it to remain, and what it did and did not do over the last 27 yrs should be known if there is going to be a clean start. It will be a lesson for future would be dictators. If secession is meant to muddy the waters so that the crimes of human rights abuse and corruption will be covered without investigation, it will not work. Tplfists should know that. All ethiopians who were at the position of power, and are suspected of abuse of power will be investigated.

            There is always a silver lining for every mishap. Ethiopians have come together as never before, except the very few, the hodams and the confused. They have understood what is at stake. Nobody will come out winner; for sure not tplf, if tplf tries to push the button of ethnic politics so that ethiopia is destroyed. On the contrary the thing that scares me a lot is the hate i see in some against tplf, especially in the amhara ethnic group, due to the regions occupied by tplf, which unless controlled will be disastrous. Tplf acted in a selfish and self-destructive way like all authoritarian regimes.

            Necessity under tplf injustice taught ethiopians to separate the wheat from the chaff, to understand tplf’s sinister plan; i.e. colonize, intimidate, humiliate, exploit and rule for centuries. This was the reason that forced the ethiopian people to spit it out. Who thought that oromos and amharas will ever see each other in the eye, and an oromo is now the vanguard of ethiopian unity, the main reason tplf mouthpieces hate him from the day they heard him speak of united ethiopia and togetherness, in a country where “division and disintegration of ethiopia” were the key words in tplf politics.

            Therefore, those who think that tplf will come out winner in this odyssey and it will benefit the people of tigray, and ethiopia without tplf hegemony is a lost case are gravely mistaken. Remember, tplf does not want to see or hear anything else that does not guarantee its hegemonic power, i.e tplf constitution and tplf’s ethnic politics, both created to empower tplf and insure tplf hegemony.

            Nitric, it is tplf that has refused to work with the federal government. More or less it has made the decisions of the federal gov ineffective within tigray, and more or less it is acting as an independent entity plus the benefits from the central government. Is this different from secession? What remains is for tplf to declare its independence and ethiopia to cut the benefits and seal her borders. We are more or less half way through this. Have you paid attention to the language of the tplf vice president of the state of tigray. His language is what we call “ ባንድ ራስ ሁለት ምላስ፣” thing, completely different when he is in addis and in mekele.

            [Finally, if i may ask you, what do you think of the die-hard eritrean tplf supporters? Does the interest of tplf coincide with the interest of eritrea? Don’t you think that they have a plan to entangle eritrea in tplf’s problems, for their own secret reasons?]

          • Nitricc

            Tplf had a paranoid hegemonic dream of either ruling ethiopia in a dictatorial way or break her up. Ethnic politics was the poison, and controlling the military, the security, the economy, the political landscape and the use of hodam proxies was the way to implement its hegemonic pax tplf with stick.

            What you have said above is very true. But you seem to underestimate during those controlling years of TPLF; the damage was woven and the legalizing breakups were set Article-39. TPLF’s plan was simple. Ethiopia will exist as Ethiopia as long as TPLF controls every aspect of the nation anything else Ethiopia will be disintegrate. We have seen this at work when Somalia Kilil almost pulled it off. When Abdi-Illi was surrendered, he was executing votes to exercise article 39. So, TPLF had the plan on motion.

            [Finally, if i may
            ask you, what do you think of the die-hard eritrean tplf supporters? Does the interest of tplf coincide with the interest of eritrea? Don’t you think that they have a plan to entangle eritrea in tplf’s problems, for their own secret reasons?]

            There are some Eritreans who really would like to see the
            Agazian things. They woudn’t come out and tell you that but deep inside they do. They will say it as “ the two brotherly people” meaning Highlander Eritreans and Tigryans” And others are just Tigrayns pretend to be Eritreans. So the goal is blare everything Eritrean till it comes that there is no difference between highlander Eritreans and Tigryans. So you are absolutely right there is a grand plan to Entangle Eritrea in every TPLF mess. It is by design.
            I will get to the rest of your take. time permitting!!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            tplf ideology is agazian by itself, the different is name and approach, there is no difference between agazian and tplf ethnic ideology, that consider highland eritrea is tigrai , tplf think highland eritrea separated from tigrai because of minilik, Italy and now eplf/pfdj,
            the war between tplf and eritrea was because of these differences,
            For ethiopia agazian means nothing but a separation of tigrai from ethiopia, if they do it peacefully, the entire ethiopian people will support thier agazian dream.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; I agree with you and to go even further; the very reason TPLF helping EPLF to crush ELF was due to Agazian agenda. There is no other possible reason. ELF was seen as Islamic and lowlanders so they had to be crushed in order the Agazian thing to be real.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            and the last 20 years when tplf think, they r strong, they did everything they can to destroy the last obstacle(eplf/pfdj) for agazian dream.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Tedros,

            The TPLF are still too strong for you. By not acting severely, they are only restraining themselves from committing mass murder which will lead you to go crying all the way to the UN.

            Do not push your luck too far, though. Do not gamble, seeing this as a sign of weakness.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon k
            tplf tried everything including mass murder(genocide) for the last 27 years, don’t act as if they didn’t .
            I told u, u r nerd .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros the Derg abiot tebaki,

            You are well known from your recent history. You either scream the loudest or attack innocent civilians.

            Stop talking here 24 hours a day. Go and fight, coward.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam simon k
            don’t u read the news that the major fight is over, now is the time to clean up the stinky remains of tplf dead bodies from ethiopia .
            economy and isolation will do the remaining part in tigrai, just be patient.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros the Derg abiot tebaki,

            You call crying and attacking civilians fighting? This sums up your cowardice.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon k
            everything u wrote here, sums up ur nerdy and cowardice like woyanes.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros the Derg abiot tebaki,

            Do you remember May 1991, you were armed to the teeth but you threw away your gun and the Derg uniform you were wearing and did a runner? You call that fighting? Bad memories?

            Be careful, the TPLF may bring version 2 of the same.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon k
            What a nerd, i told u, i was in mohandessin when ur cowardice woyanes came to addis in 1991, since u r nerd, u didn’t get it.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros the Derg abiot tebaki,

            So, it is the EPLF that kicked your backside?
            But still, you ran away to hide under your mistress’ bed.

            What will you do when your honeymoon with the Oromo/Galla expires and the TPLF V2 becomes your worst nightmare?

            Answer the questions, don’t jump around..

          • Aligaz G

            Simon,

            You repeatedly use unacceptable pejoratives against Oromos. I am surprised Saleh whom I respect greatly allows racism in his forum as long as it is directed towards Ethiopians. Maybe he doesnt have time to read every racist screed and respond. Anyway you should try to keep your uneducated racist sentiments to yourself.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Ali G.,
            Selective outrage.

            Can you point out any racist statements from me?

          • Saleh Johar

            Aligaz,
            Can I ask you a favor! Okay, thank you.
            This forum is called Awate Forum, not Saleh’s Forum. Saleh is here in his personal capacity. If you want to address the moderator, please do so. Don’t mention my name because it’s the task of the moderators you are addressing. Perceptions aside, please help us correct the wrong. I don;t think you didn’t realize it, but keeping the wrong perception alive is a deliberate campaign that has been going on for as long as this website existed. Please do not reinforce the despicable and villifying perception.

            Please note that the respect is mutual.
            Thank you

          • Aligaz G

            Saleh,

            In a sense the forum belongs to all of us but you as the founder are finally responsible good or bad. In any case without rules we are lost so in the future I will address complaints to The Moderator. Lesson learned.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam simon k
            1st, i don’t see ethiopians except u through tribalism
            2nd, by any mesurment oromo is better than U, for me, u guys r fake and empty.
            3rd, whoever against ethiopia, i will hate him, that includes amara and oromo.

        • Nitricc

          There was news a day or two ago about Ethiopian Embassy in London displaying Ethiopian Map which included Eritrea. Many Eritreans shouted, Ethiopia apologized for the “mistake”, and all is well. However, the superstitious that I am, it made me think that we may well be a cursed region after all.

          Your Fitness: long time. How are you doing my friend. I just read your post and the above I have quoted you caught my attention. I see no harm if a man holds a picture of his former girlfriend who dumbed him years ago. That is what exactly they are doing. I don’t blame their confusion as the Ethiopian politics game is confusing and dangerous. I forgive them and you should too.
          Regarding Tigray declaring article 39 is unthinkable. If Somalia land can survive; I see no problem for Tigrayans to do well but what is Ethiopia with out Tigray is the question. Every major history of Ethiopia starts with tigray.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Nitriccay,

            I am doing great and thank you General.

            “If Somalia can survive…” Very good point!

            Personally, I don’t like the idea of separation for many reasons, but it may just happen as necessary evil if Ethiopians fail to put their house in order.

          • Guest

            Hi Nitricc

            you wrote “Every major history of Ethiopia starts with tigray”.
            I would like to add: every misery starts also in Tigray, the land of so many “Generals” who never fought and led a battle and the “Drs” who never wrote a thesis

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam guest
            R u by any chance who used to came here as mitiku melese?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            which history r u talking about? Geez history? What about if i tell u, it is all started in Yemen. and what different does it make?

          • Amanuel

            Hi Nitricc,
            It might be ok to you who became Eritrean because TPLF denied his Ethiopian nationality, however it is not acceptable to most Eritreans for Ethiopian Embassy in London displaying Ethiopian Map which included Eritrea. One of the excuses of the war of 1998-2000 was TPLF had a map includes part of Eritrea.

            You seem to be bothered more about Ethiopian, (well most PFDJ supporters are these days) than Eritrea. It is shame for a country borne out of unbelievable sacrifices to keep quiet when its first general was shoot few weeks ago and no one knows where he is now. Some claim he ok and back home and others say he already dead and buried like a dog. However, officially nothing is said and that is acceptable to the PFDJ supporters. What does it take to the PFDJ supporters to say enough is enough?

          • Nitricc

            it is not acceptable to most Eritreans for Ethiopian Embassy in London displaying Ethiopian Map which included Eritrea.

            Hi Amanuel; the last time I check fantasy and fantasazation are personal rights. I am not going to get angry because someone or some people they had a wish and fantasy. it is their right. Ethiopians they had a life time chance to get their fantasy in to reality that was 1998 to 2000. Ethiopians they can’t be united as then NEVER in their history and never in the future. Guess what? they couldn’t bring Eritrea and Eritreans down. So, don’t get all up and go banana about nothing. It is a done deal but for any eventuality the Brave Eritreans will be there to defend her as usual. Regarding General Efrem; well there is nothing new. since when did the Eritrean government shared any information in public? So why be surprised?

    • Haile S.

      Selamat Fanti,

      ኣይግድን፡ ማርያም ጽዮን ገዲፍኩም’ሲ፡ መድሃኔ ኣለም (El Salvador) ተጸጊዕኩም ክትወጹ!

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat Hailat,

        How about this: “The Savior Tigray Republic isReal.”

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear Fanti,
      The title “Saint” is removed temporarily and you should know why.
      154b is a sin for three reasons:
      Tigray is the gravity center, not the periphery; Tigray has always been the fixer not the splinter; and the republicness will trigger a domino effect leading the entire region to chaos.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat Hayata,

        Temp demotion gracefully accepted!

        Diaspora politics has always been far from reality and I hope Tigrayans in Tigray are saner than the ones here, but almost everyone here is in the “enough is enough” mode.

        • weichegud

          Selam Fanti,
          What are the diaspora Tigrayans complaining about?
          enough of what? enough of empty prisons? enough of free media? enough of no corruption? enough of no looting? Do we need to go back to mowing down non-tigreans?

      • Paulos

        Hayata,

        A big poster over looking Addis’ impressive high rise building catches the attention of passersby where it was large enough to be spotted with clarity way above from the sky as well.

        What was so unique about the poster was that, it celebrates and venerates with deference former Ethiopian leaders including Emperors Tewodros, Menilik, Haileselassie and Colonel Mengistu and Abiy. Obviously, Emperor Yohannes and Meles are not included in the picture, precisely because the psychology is already set in motion for they don’t belong up there including their history as well as the political anchor you passionately call, “the center of gravity.”

        • Hayat Adem

          Dearest Paul,
          I am a fun of Tewodros. He is truly selfless and I think of him more of a hero than a leader. Emperor Yhanes, picked Ethiopia from him and gave it federalism, gave it a flag (both originated from him). He was not well versed in Amharic but remained loyal to the Ethiopian state continuity and recognized Amharic as his state language, moved his capital to DebreTabor. Yohanes gave his life for Ethiopia. And an Ethiopian history professor in Atlanta recently told me Yohanes’ grave is in the Metema area obscured in a remote place without any standing notable statue. Ethiopia’s thanklessness starts right there. I also admire Minilik for certain things and blame him for others. His expansion to the south and west were remarkable but he was merciless and brutal on the natives. I will never forgive for what he did to the 2000 Eritreans after his victory at Adwa. Also, his naivete of being less interested to the coast was very notable.
          Hailessilassie was nost graceful in the eyes of others and for his role in pan Africanism but the most useless interms of advancing Ethiopian national interest. He was literally a runaway leader. If you sat with me listening to this history professor (from Gondar), you would be left with out an ounce of respect for this king. The professor told me what the people spoke of him after he left Ethiopia for the Italians: yaferese kes ayqedis; yesheshe meri aynegis! Je came back killed Zeleke the hero by hanging. Ethiopia sung for both. The Tigrean peasants had enough of him and rebelled i. The Raya area.. They call it Qedemay Weyane. Imagine, these were peasants pissed of the Emperor. And yet, their lead slogan was “we govern by our tradition, we fly the Ethiopian flag” or sorts. The Ethiopian so called activists don’t care to take that kind of precaution for the sake of the country.
          Mengistu was nothing but a butcher and I can’t see him getting any credit except for butchering and turning Ethiopia into ashes, left, center and right. Isn’t Meles who lifted up Erhiopia from the ashes to the longest peace, longest uninterrupted growth, poverty reduction, potent deplomatic muscle? Poverty went down from from 45 to 23, for God’s sake. Life expectancy went up from 42 to 68. School coverage hit 100%. What is wrong with the Ethiopians? Meles did little for the Tigreans compares to what he did for Ethiopia.
          HD was a wrong pick for a leader to continue the journey at such high speed. He was at times clueless and not assertive enough. But compared to Abiy, HD was by far a safe hand. Abiy is a chief pretendere who actively runs on reverse psychology. I really don’t know what to make of him and I don’t know how long it will take and cost for Ethiopians to know for what he is – a complete disaster.
          The poster you saw is part of all these lies and pretentions to include people like Aniy and Mengistu and exclude the real gravity centers shows and tells a complete reversal of the truth for a wrong reason. That reminds me of my favorite quote: my artificial plants died because I didn’t pretend to water them!
          I blame it on the Ethiopian self centered elites and activists who don’t know or care what troubles they are causing Ethiopia. Hate, thanklessness and lie are elements of their vital operation. But I hope Tigreans continue to remain anchoring the center gravity of Ethiopia as it should be.

          • Haile S.

            Good morning Hayat,
            Concerning the mutilation of the right hand and left leg of the Askaris, they were 1500. 1000 succumbed to their torture. The remaining were taken to Italian care and hospitals where they tried to take care of them. The decision to mutilate them was taken during a special meeting on March 03 between Menelik, Itege Taitu, ras Mengesha and the Abune (patriarch). All these 4 are responsible for that torture. Even Theodros didn’t do that much in days. Source: de la Jonquiere, Les Italiens en Erythree, 1897.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            It is inhumane and barbaric. I wonder if legal scholars see the punishment as a deterrence or a punishment for treason.

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Paul.
            Yes it was inhumane and barbaric act that was brought upon the Eritreans only. No Italian underwent this unless it was by an overzealous mutilator. The most probable reason is as you said, but it was common practice of the chieftains against anyone they thought betrayed them, though it has never been practiced in such scale. There are many inhumane and barbaric treatments that Abyssinians practiced. For example the mutilation of the vanquished males genitals and taking as a trophy was one. Very few survived from this treatment. Many Ethiopians popularly think, it was only practiced by the Afars and perhaps Issas too (not sure), but it was a common practice in Abyssinia following the interminable wars.

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            Thank you. Can you tell us more about as in if they were made to join society or if they were isolated as in in a camp of some sort. More over, was there any political implications the fact that, it was done only on or to Eritreans?

          • Haile S.

            Paul,
            This is a great subject for a thesis. If any student of history is out there, here you go, you have a subject. It needs accessing Italian documents and interviewing old people in Eritrea of things they heard from their forefathers, but should not be a deterrent. If I find anything relevant I will come later on it.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Haile S.,
            It pains human conscience that a patriarch was there to bless crime.

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Ismail,
            Good to see you back. Indeed indeed an indelible spot of blood in the religious history of Abyssinia.
            On another of collusion between Popes and Kings, the relationship of Theodros II and Aba Salama, the Abune of Abyssinia at that time and Mgr De Jacobis (aba yacob) and other missionaries is fascinating. You know it. We will certainly come to these anecdotes an occasions.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam hayat a
            u wrong in almost everything spacially when u mention yohanes, yohanes was nothing but a butcher and a Christian version of al Qaida, the whole of wallo and Gojam r the wetness. and the flag is introduced by empireor minilik after the concord of South. and yohanes grave is not in metema, his beheaded head is still in one of sudan museum in Khartoum and amharic was official language since almost it’s cration starting from the time of zegawa dynasty.
            and yohanes and alula r from temben which means they r more agaw than tigrai.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hayat,
            I have probably read more on Tedros and Yohannes than on any other personality in history. You can guess why–I have a family history of the persecution of Yohannes that runs generations. That is why I always mention that the Ethiopian history needs to be reconciled. A closure is very much needed. But it shouldn’t be written from the perspective of Yohannes himself, as he is often lionized. But a true narration of his victimization of many citizens just because of their faith. That is exactly why abhor ISIS, he was the opposite face of the coin. A few anecdotes: He was so brute that he cut the tongue of his adversaries. Talk about the pre-primitive freedom of expression. He berated an English educated man from Tigrai because he had shoes on–which Yohannes apparently considered being effeminate. If you need more, there are tons of such stories:-)

            Seriously though, he could be considered better than Tedros in many aspects. Yes, he was religious though a fanatic. Read about the debate of Tewahdo doctrine that he held and what happened to those who were not of the sect he believed in. Do you know of Kara Haymanot? Look into that and see who was converted forcefully to what.

            On Tedros, another brute, in Megdella, he pushed dozens of his soldiers over the cliff, to their death, in rage when he was defeated by General Napier. But he was rehabilitated in the early sixties when Haile Selassie devised a plan to cement the unity of Ethiopia, and he was advised that Tedros would be a good model. Until then, Tedros doesn’t exist in memory. He was relegated to the sidelines. He was rehabilitated just Abiy is rehabilitating Derg operatives and Haile Selassie romanticizes. In short, the history of the feudal kings is so horrible even for their time.

            Finally, for every admirer of Yohannes, I believe there are a dozen who were historically victimized. They all have the same right to historical narration—but you know which narration was highlighted.

            Dear Hayat, I always avoid such debates because I know they are emotionally charged and lead to no where–it’s the work of enlightened scholars not of hordes who pretend to be scholars. That is why I just nod my head and smile on topics like that of Yohannes. But sometimes, the wounds are scratched and I cannot help it. I hope the professor in Atlanta can verify what I claimed. I hope you forgive me for what I wrote here. Cheers 🙂

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Dr Paulos & Fantish,

          Tigray is the anchor of Ethiopianess. Tigray is the anchor of their history. Tigraians are the nucleus of the Ethiopian people. Tigray is the centripetal force that hold the centrifugal forces of divergent interests. No Tigray no Ethiopia. I hope not, but if Tigray triggers article 39, that will be the end of the Ethiopia we know. The current leader does not understand this reality. If he did not get a harness to all the provocations by the Amara social group against the Tigrians, he will sure let the nation for disintegration. It is a very worrying situation for those who are fighting for survival of the nation.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Mr. Amanuel Hidrat,

            I think what I observed is an isolated case coming from a number of angry Tigrayans. I honestly do not know the real feeling of most Tigrayans in this regard. However, the phase II I mentioned earlier may depend on how the Kemant (Agew) issue is settled eventually.

            If separation becomes eminent and Tigray claims historical territories (language will have no meaning in that case), things will become extremely messy. If Agew forms its own kilil however, their claim into Tigrayan territory will almost equal to that of Tigrayan claim and they may just settle it quid pro quo.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam fanti
            I thought u believe in self determination? do u have any idea where kemant located? and do u know agew is just a name but those people r not different from amara, in terms of language, calture and psychological mindset.
            u think they prefer “kola” than “dega”?

  • Peace!

    Hi Saleh,

    Good Read. Well, thanks to the emperors and PFDJ, she hasn’t gotten a chance to explore her resources and offer the world a better description. Austria might be smaller but is well-known for its cultural heritage, the alps and coffee.

    Peace!

    • Saleh Johar

      Thanks, Peace,
      You forgot Austrian chocolate. One in twenty Austrians works in the chocolate industry or trade. So, it means Eritrea could supply Austria with all its cocoa needs. Good luck finding evidence to that, but someo0ne told me that is how myth is built:-)

  • Saleh Johar

    Abi,
    Keren has its fair share of confused people, including me 🙂 However, our confusion is much safer (and less lethal) than that of Gonder!!!!

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Saleh
      እቺን ይወዳል ቀብራራው ጎንደሬ !ጎንደሬ ይግደረደራል እንጂ አይደናበርም

  • Saleh Johar

    See Hope,
    That is what I meant with my earlier comment. If you have nothing to add, just skip it. You do not have to comment on every comment. If you do not add value, but instead annoy people, I think it’s better t skip it.

    Who told you the flag is “to supplement the Greenery”? Then, what is a flag, is it religious, physics or chemistry? A flag is “bonafide” political.

    Is it a chronic illness? So you consider me ill? My friend, then what would you say if someone told you those who rally behind Isaias’ qolle colored flag could be chronically ill?

    Please think because it will help you realize you could be rubbing people the wrong way.

    • Hope

      Selam SGJ:

      Let me spit up my gut feeling about this MUMBUO-jumbo Flag thing.
      With all due respect ,Sir:

      It is a fruitless,unconstructive divisive,nonsensical and futile mantra.

      No need to bring up old stories and grudges related to the flag,in my opinion.

      It is a constitutional issue and let the future inclusive Constitution and the Assembly worry and care about it.

      Right now,it is the least of my problems!
      FYI:
      Hope is NOT a confused Kerenite.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hope dear,
        I am not here to address your problems, least or not least. This was a simple image until your negative perception kicked in and you want to make an issue out of it. But it is not going away simply because Hope said so. See, this is your problem. Think outside of yourself and you will be okay. What you see as divisive is not so for many others. What is divisive is ambivalence, foggy thoughts and lack of clarity, I think. The world doesn’t revolve around your whims. Learn to accept other views and move on. SEE! I didn’t get it wron as you quickly passed your verdict (as usual) I read it carefully and I had to refer to your track record to know what you mean. And I saw you will change your mind before I finish my lunch–yummy, just finished lunch by the way.

  • Hope

    Hi All:
    Is this the famous “Libbi Tigray” of Asmera-Keren Road or the famous scenic,The Semenawi Keih bahri —Filfil-Massawa Road?
    Either way, what an impressive scenary,indeed.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hope
      It’s the old Massawa- Asmara road

  • Nitricc

    Hi SG; good read and well presented argument but why not use the UN accepted and nationally known flag? I really don’t care but I just hate to see a flag drama and fights in Eritrea just as our neighbors to the north.

    • Saleh Johar

      Nitricc,
      Forget all misleading anecdotes. If you presented a white flag the UN will accept it. What we care is what did our unfinished struggle rally around? And this is not a drama, it’s a cause for many Eritreans. Personally I cannot accept Isaias flag that no one chose or voted on—constitutionally. I have always believed on this flag because it represents the unfinished Eritrean struggle. It has clarity. But if you disown it based on a pro Latino by Isaias, we will face each other when a constitution decides on it. Until then, rally behind whatever flag you believe and let others do the same.

      • Guest

        Selam Saleh

        Can you enlight us, the youger generation, about your attachment to the flag shown in your article? And why is the Eritrean Nation Flag, a symbol of our sovereignty, not acceptable for you? Do you also oppose the Camel, the national emblem of Eritrea, and the name of our currency “Nakfa”?

        Thank you

        • Saleh Johar

          Dear ,
          As a young generation, I wish you took the responsibility to educate yourself on issues that concern us all. All it takes is googling and reading past contents on all Eritrean websites, books, etc. The problem is no one can give all your generation a one-to-one class. Work for it, it’s on the Internet. If you do not find anything, I can give you a few links on the weekend. Just remind me in case I forget it. So, I can only give you articles that I wrote over the years explaining the issues. I cannot repeat all of that here.

          thank you for your interest

      • Nitricc

        we will face each other when a constitution decides on it

        Hi SG; so when everything settles you think we should waste our time arguing about flag? That was my original point and concern. I don’t know this for a fact but I will think the creators of a nation’s birth will draw the nations flag. Accordingly the EPLF was the victors and the creators of the nation and they came up with flag we have. Personally I really don’t care but from what I see the current flag is very fair. There is your flag; there is EPLF’s flag and the rest colors to harmonized it. At least put it on vote and let the people have a say on it. what does constitution has to do with it?

        • Saleh Johar

          Nitricc,
          Don’t give me that “I don’t care”. You do, strongly. That is why you won’t let go. If you bless everything the PFDJ did because they were the victors, then read about other victors. Even the Derg thought they were victors and did whatever they wished. It didn’t last long but increased the cost on us. Let’s make it short: I do not accept anything the PFDJ decided on unilaterally. Respect that wish of mine, and think whatever you like. I have no problem with that. I am not the one asking you why you believe in what you believe, it is you who wouldn’t recognize my right. If we respect each other’s individuality, we will be in peace. Any problem with that?

          • Nitricc

            don’t give me that “I don’t care”. You do, strongly. That is why you won’t let go.

            Hi SG; No I don’t. I brought it up because you placed the old Eritrean flag in no man’s land. I have no idea why you did that. hahahah

            If you bless everything the PFDJ did because they were the victors, then read about other victors

            I did read and victors do what ever they want till some one Defeats and Conquests the victors. All Eritreans had to do is vanquish the victors and move on. Since I choose not to fight i.e. my only option is to let the victor do what ever they wanted to do.

            I am not the one asking you why you believe in what you believe, it is you who wouldn’t recognize my right. If we respect each other’s individuality, we will be in peace

            I am not the person who gives and denies any wishes. it is all up to the victors. My job is to give an opinion about your opinion. We can agree to disagree but there is no harm expressing an opinion.

            Any problem with that?

            No, Sir. but I have a solution. You flay what ever flag in your house and I will do the same. And rest let’s leave for the victors to deiced.
            What do you say, SG?

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            See! That is the difference we have (the rest you just re-worded what I said) 🙂

            The difference is: you decided to watch the victors do whatever they like, I decided on the opposite. If a goat could express its feeling while it is being led to the slaughterhouse, imagine what it would say! But as we know, the goat walks silently to wherever it’s led. I choose to go to the gallows saying what I believe regardless of the victor or the vanquished would lead me to the gallows. Advice: close your door not to disturb the household, a practice screaming as loud as you can. Believe me, it will train your throat and it will do you good. 🙂

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlen Saleh
            I have to say your article was beautifully written and I found it to be enjoyable to read. That’s about Eritrea, the not-so-tiny-tiny country. I love the heading…

            On your reply to Nitrickay, you daid, “I choose to go to the gallows saying what I believe regardless of the victor or the vanquished would lead me to the gallows.”
            Sir, you are safe, here in the land of law. So, that argument is just for chew berbere (spicing it up). Nitrickay was spot on and should be commended for his respectful and calm demeanor.
            Yours,truly,
            from the dark side of the moon.

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Mahmoud,
            You are mixing issues today. All bundled up. But it’s okay.

            1. I am glad you liked the “title”.
            2. On my reply to Nitricc, I propably know him more than anyone else here. He is a veteran and we do fine in communicating. But thank you for explaining his cooment
            3. On writing:. There is scientific or scholarly writing. I leave that to the qualified. I can discern propaganda tone and other types of writing.—I am a veteran, at lest give me that. I take writing as a straight forward communication, as if I am writing a personal letter, you know, aqedime tsegga T’enaka, etc type of writing. That falls in the domain of arts—it can be refined or tseffar depending on the topic and the writer. Therefore, I am sorry you couldn’t find other ways to understand what I wrote because it seems you took it literally I don’t believe you don’t know that but whenever there is an opportunity, some people fall for it. It’s usuall. My trade needs spice just like zigni. I am hoping the victors would not criminalize the use of spices:-)

            4. Dear Mahmouday, I know Nitricc and I don’t think he needs anyone to explain his views. He is a capable debater and he doesn’t mind when he gets equal to what he gives. Remember, I know him for more that 14 years. But thank you for the service, that is what friends are for.

            Stay good dear.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            MarHaba Saleh
            I’m glad is going to be safe…ሻፎ ሒዝካ ኣብታ corner ከይትጽበዮ ፈሪሐ ነይረ። ፍትሕትሕ ከእ በል ኣባይና ይኾሪ።
            No, I knew u were saying the equivalent of “I die for it” and that is something that all of us say, I think. The thing is: would you do the activities you are doing now if you were in the land of gallows? Probably. But we have no way of knowing because u r living in the USA. So, that would not give you value-added over Nitrickay’s perceived lack of moral standing. Anyway, stay well. I’m fine.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Mahmoud,
            Please help me avoid gwal-neger. Kindly stop this manufactured indignation, we all have it and we use it sparingly. It’s good you recognize there is Gallowsland that we call Eritrea. Let me remind you of what the ambassador of Gallowsland to Israel said: ‘if you have pants, fight us (or something similar to that). I have heard this put downs for too long it used to be repulsing. Not anymore. Now is pitiful. But no. You should know I shouldn’t be doing what I am doing regardless of where I live. It’s not natural but forced on us by people who wouldn’t realize they are not in Sahil anymore. And I do not say stuff , Hirrer keblen eye–Allahuma newitu Hrer keblen 🙂

            By the way Mahmoud, qeda nay baas bka wela mitu? So that I know. Baas bkum gaaka dibye. Hyay bel melehey.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mahmud,

            Even if I take your argument literally, are you on record saying, PFDJ or EPLF or their satellite have never abducted, assassinated people outside of Eritrea including on the US?

            Berhe

          • Mahmud Saleh

            selam BerheY
            Direct your question to the right people, please. My argument was not towards that direction. Thanks.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Nitricc
      Flags are the least of our problems. Like SGJ said below can be settled constitutionally and UN will not have any choice but to accept people’s will.
      Haveing said that let me share my romantic attachment to the blue flag. You were may be young or an Ethiopian and didn’t care ( a lot of the new PFDJ supporters became Eritreans after the 1998 war because their parents were deported from Ethiopia) but that was Eritrean flag since the Federal government and continue to be a symbol of our struggle for free and Independent Eritrea. When I was a student in Asmara my dream was to see it replacing the Ethiopian flag. In esrly 80s I went to Masawa with my dad and we saw a UN Land Rover bearing UN flag. It looked exceptionally beautiful with the wind blowing and my dad told me can you see that beautiful flag? I said yes, I get you dad. Whenever I was passing a government office with Ethiopian flag I used to dream replacing with our blue flag. When I was a student I was a monitor for my class and I used to draw our blue flag on the back of the attendance slip and send it to the office for filing. One day the archive lady found out and told the school director ( aboy Tsegai RIP). We used to call him aboy Tsegai because he was a father figure and very kind. I was called to his office and to be honest I was not scared because I knew he was a patriotic man. When I got in to his office he gave me a look says “ what the hell you doing? YOU idiot!” Any way as the lady was an Eritrean as well they covered it up and destroyed the slips. I was lucky enough to meet aboy Tsegai after independence and he gave me a big hug and we talked about it. He told me that he was happy to see our blue flag flying high.
      I don’t have problem with new flag but if you ask me I would prefer the blue one. The new flag it is not not only as the result of winer takes all but also it’s arrival coincidently was at the same time when I realised Eritrean dreams being eroded by IA.

  • Haile S.

    Selamat Saleh,
    You are in your elements of justified sublime pride of Eritrea and your Keren, and you have all the reasons to spell the grandeur of both. I am here not to challenge you, but rather to expand and add some of the reasons that glued this adjective to Eritrea.
    Our regime and ourselves are the first culpable.
    A) we made Ethiopia a Goliath to win big, but we discontinued becoming David
    B) we said we never kneel down, but we stopped rising up
    C) we said we are proud, but just inflated our chest, but forgot Eritrea’s chest
    D) we said we have >1000km of sea coat, but functionally we let it becoming the size of a swimming pool
    E) we let our young migrate and exile in masses as if their country doesn’t have land that produces a single grain
    F) we have hundreds of specialized exiled Doctors and nurses our regime IS NOT capable of attracting and export the little it produces, but it boroughs fresh graduates from our yesterday’s Goliath
    G) we feel proud to show our colonizers Artdecos in Asmara & recently in Keren, but we never built our own symbols of independence, pride and labor. We rehabilitate rails, wagons and steam engine that deserve a museum to ride on
    H) we complain about being the victims of everybody, but we never came together to reflect on our self victimization first, and to own our failures and build upon it
    I) we haven’t truly embraced our diversity. What made Eritrea Eritrea is its diverse population, but we constantly undo the little cohesion that starts to grow by looking other transborder kinships. So the outsider sees our tiny fragmentation. Why would they consider us big when we fragment and want to adhere to the big neighbourhood?
    J) our regime, is the tiniest in the world, with no ambition for itself, for the country, for its people and most importantly its young. It gets pride in making its citizens labour for nothing till the nails crack instead if letting them labor for their own good and for their country. Our regime had ministers that are still learning to be ministers for the last 27 years. Responsibility is parenthood. Our ministries and administrations look like sterile parents.
    K) Many of our citizens are shy (to say it nicely) to spell they are from Eritrea. I know acquaintances who systematically answer ‘I am from east Africa’ when asked where’re you from, instead of answering proudly from Eritrea and google on their cellphone to show it when the person doesn’t know it, which is mostly the case.
    Needless to mention the use of ‘tiny’ by those who wanted us disappear as country.
    Finally, Eritrea is considered tiny because it is in standstill tiny economy when it was a province of Ethiopia. Instead of growing it is suffering from citizen- and youth-porosis.
    Yes, Saleh, I agree with you Eritrea is the 99th biggest country in the world had it not been for our regime’s and own fault.

    • Saleh Johar

      Wow Haile,
      You outdid my article. Simply beautiful and very insightful. I am asking permission to use your input personally and on awate. You said “granted”? Thank you 🙂

      • Haile S.

        Hey Saleh,
        It is yours. You provoked me positively . 🙂 🙂 .

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Memhir,

        You almost said what I was thinking: why not redo the article and share the well-deserved credit with Hailat?

    • Hope

      Well said Hailat.
      Zereba Abeyti,indeed….very serious addenda.
      But you both U forgot this:
      Eritrea is probably one of the top ten economies in the world but we let ourselves and our Eritrea to be the second to the last, poorest nation in the world,which has made it a really ‘tiny” Nation,thanks to the PFDJ and our collective failure.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat,

      Why don’t convert these outlines jotted out

      • Haile S.

        Selamat Emma,

        Thank you. These are ideas that run in the minds of many of us. They just manifest in different forms. I will let SGJ integrate them with his thoughts. The absence of symbol of Eritrean struggle is really troubling. The only symbol that I know in Asmara the ሽዳ were in ruins when I went there 10 years back. More troubling is the Pushkin and his great great grandfathers story taking over the stories of the Shepherd or Shepherdess who left their village, parents, young wife/husband and perhaps a baby who travelled in worn-out ሽዳ, if not as much in travel, certainly more in suffering than Abraham Hannibal (AH) for a known defined cause in their own country. In the early 90s, because of reading a Russian student who wrote a chapter about AH (this is not Amanuel Hidrat :-)) in a book dedicated to a true Eritrean, Aba Jerome Gebre-Mussie a Professor of Amharic, Geez and Tigrigna in Paris oriental school, I started reading books and available publications about AH, many of them. My conclusion is, he is west/central African like Dieudonné Gnammankou concluded in his book. When time permits, I may write something about my conclusion.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat,

          The history you bring in your comments is always fascinating. I always expect new ones whenever you commented. I am sure Historians like Ismailo will enjoy it more than I did. Good to have you here brother.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hope dear,

    Thank you for the note.

    Cease fire it is. But please think before making comments because most of the time you don’t. Here is a suggestion: do you right as a hobby or because you have a cause? The answer to that will clarify for you why I get annoyed. And I am a declared “townsite” and wish for clarity from all, particularly from kerenites 🙂

    • Hope

      Ahlen Bika Ya Ustazna,SGJ:
      Thanks for the advice.
      ,The answer is :
      .BOTH…but unfortunately, do them randomly-due to time constraints.
      “But please think before making comments because most of the time you don’t”.
      Noted….and I ADMIT!
      Prob an accurate observation and feedback..

  • Paulos

    Selam Ayay,

    Great read. And many thanks for the creative context where the rest of us pass the “tiny” part in silence when it is said to us by none-Eritrean.

    It seems like, it could as well be part and parcel of Edward Said’s “Orientalism” where the West or the tradition of Western scholarship describes the rest with in the legacy of colonialism including the culture, art, folklore and geography. And you are absolutely right when you challenge us with facts why would Eritrea be described as tiny when others are not described as such which are smaller than Eritrea. One wonders, if they would have described her as such, if Eritrea was a success story with a knock out economy and a stellar governance as well. Probably not.

    As I was reading your piece, I remembered something that I hadn’t thought about in a long time. When I was in grade seven or so, in some days, I used to have difficulty falling asleep and it started to affect my schooling. And when I told my uncle about the difficulty I was having, he handed me a map of Africa and told me to memorize every country including when lying in bed. The idea is that, memorizing the countries including visualizing where every country is located would tire my brain and would induce me into sleep. And it worked. What I realized then was, Gabon was not only the smallest country in Africa but it’s location is so unusual so much so that, it is half-sandwiched deep inside Senegal. And I wonder, if the tourist adverts describe her as, “Tiny Gabon.”

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Paolols,
      Consider yourself abat nefsi, I will confess.
      I was a very reckless student starting grade eight. Just for the sake if rebelling, I refused to keep more than one excercise book—all subject notes went there, never carried books. During tests, I would answer enough to get me the passing mark 50% and I would walk out in minutes. Never cared But I liked geography and history. What grades I lacked in math and Amharic my geography and history grades will take care of. Confession finished.

      Do you know I can still draw the world map from memory with height accuracy? Africa? I can draw it’s boundaries, rivers and lakes and capital cities almost exactly. Now you know why I am impressed with your knowledge of sciences, I am an arts and humanities students. That is why the tiny-country thing annoys me because it’s a sign of ingnorabce and laziness—taking in everything we hear without questioning.

      • Paulos

        Selam Ayay,

        That actually comes as a complete surprise. I always thought that you were a nerdy and bookish student who never missed classes. You were probably bored with it. But you have both worlds under your sleeves including a wealth of life’s experience not to mention a stellar writing style and story telling marinated with history, culture, tradition, folklore and politics.

        Glad you know every map of the world by heart including lakes and rivers because I have plans for the weekend to comment on “Water Chemistry and Water Politics” God willing that is.

        • Saleh Johar

          Paulos,
          Nerdy? Not at all. But bookish, yes. I would rather skip class and read a book instead of learning Algebra or gs, tewsake-gs 🙂
          Please do the water chemistry thing. If you have the time, I suggest you expand it into an article–it doesn’t take much. You are churning comments that could easily become articles.

    • Jim Holloway

      Perhaps you mean, “Tiny Gambia”?

      • Paulos

        Jim,

        Thank you. You are right. I had Gambia in mind.