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Eritrea: Ruling Party and Children’s Rights

In a news it released on its website, the Eritrean ruling party (PFDJ) said it concluded a seminar where the topic was children’s rights. The news indicated the two-day seminar was held between 12-13 April 2018 and claimed, “encouraging results have been registered in the country in implementation of Children’s right.”

The PFDJ also claimed, “Eritrea has been conducting all round effort to apply the International Convention on Children’s Rights which it endorsed in 1994…”

The news also indicated “the seminar was attended by committees from the 13 sub-zones of the region that are established to oversee the implementation of children’s rights.”

The statement was attributed to Mr. Zerezgi Yohannes, a junior officer with a long and colorful title, “the head of Social Welfare in the Ministry of Labor and Human Welfare branch in the Central region.”

However, it is an established fact that the unelected single ruling party that has been controlling the Eritrean government violates every human right known to the civilized world. Worse, it has failed to respect basic traditional human rights of the citizens, particularly children, one of the most vulnerable segment in any society. Let alone be at par with modern international human right standards.

Here, a few examples from the uncountable stories about the sufferings of Eritrean children suffices.

Ethiopian and Sudanese refugee camps are full of unaccompanied children who foresaw the bleak future of indefinite military service that awaits them, and they fled their country through treacherous terrain crossed heavily armed and tense border areas where soldiers operate under shoot-to-kill orders.

The second example is the tragic story of Ciham Ali Abdu who has been languishing in jail since 2012 when she was barely 16. That child is now a young woman who transitioned from childhood to womanhood in jail. Sadly, she is jailed for no crime she committed but held hostage for being the daughter of Ali Abdu, the ex-minister of information who defected the PFDJ in 2012.

In addition, there are many children arrested in congregations, in churches unsolicited by the ruling party.

There are also children in Eritrean prisons some of them arrested as recently as December 2017 and others who were arrested in March 2018 after attending the funeral procession of the late Haji Musa, who suffered in jail for four months before dying in the hands of the PFDJ. At least two children from the Al Dia’a school have already died in prison. Furthermore, there is no news about the hundreds of citizens, young and old, men and women, who were arrested in the aftermath of the Al Diaa school saga.

Meanwhile, there are spoiled Diaspora children who do not care about the conditions of their compatriots inside Eritrea. They shamelessly hold conferences in support of the ruling party in Eritrea as if caring for Eritrea is a separate issue from that of Eritreans. Just like the officials who met in Asmara to discuss children’s rights, they think the violation of human rights is a hypothetical matter that doesn’t have human victims.

The violations of the Eritrean ruling party is not trivial anymore. It has become an impediment to development, feeling of security and is risking the wellbeing of the nation. And Eritreans need to find a way of solving this never-ending suffering and not wait for miracles or a geopolitical situation that will redeem them from the bondage. It’s past time that Eritreans reacted to the sufferings and not be sitting duck to be hunted one after the other by the ruthless ruling party. Protecting thyself from aggression is a cardinal rule that all human beings are naturally granted.

Links to related stories:

Eritrea: Violation of Rights of the Child and the Old (Dec 7, 2017)
Hajji Mussa Refuses to Walk Out of Prison (Dec 22, 2017)
Nonagenarian Hajji Musa Arrested in Asmara (Dec. 27, 2017)
Unrest in Asmara, US State Department Issues Warning (Dec 31, 2017)
Close to a Thousand-People Arrested at Haji Musa’s Funeral (March 5, 2018)

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  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Aman,
    .
    Welcome back, long time.
    I missed your occasional byline on unique topics.
    Glad to hear from you.
    Now, I am going to Asmarino to see Gen. Pinochet.
    .
    Mr. K. H

    • Paulos

      Selam Kim Hanna,

      Are you familiar with the 1982 movie, “Missing” Jack Lemmon in it? I didn’t see the look of Pinochet in General Philipos, instead it reminded me the movie where the plot is an American dad goes to Chile to look for his missing son during the reign of Pinochet. True story. One wonders if we are going to live long enough to witness when the graves are exhumed and the dungeons are dug open to tell the story of horror during the reign of IA.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Paulos,
        .
        Aman always has a tendency to point in the direction nobody is looking at.
        .
        I have not seen that movie.
        I have no doubt we will see that day you are describing. Our prayers is to live long enough to see that day. The lord works in mysterious ways.
        .
        Mr. K.H

    • AMAN

      Greetings K.H
      Though I loved and love to be around my people
      I found it hard to be and am so concerned about
      the negative rhyme and spin some give it to my
      comments just to suit their intended objectives
      and Goals by finding an easy scapegoat.
      Some really mean it while everyone knows they are
      wrong. Many are so blinded and do not want to see
      beyond the immediate. All what they want and looking
      for is somebody to die for them and they want to collect
      money and fame.
      Thus unfortunately I am thinking not to stay longer.
      But never will be silenced of my voices.
      Enough is Enough.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Hope,

    There is nothing new in his comments. He is just saying “let’s demarcate the boarder and everything will be fine after”.

    What if Ethiopia refused as they have done for the past how many years..and they refuse for another 50 years…what’s going to happen.

    that’s what I am interested to know…from him and you for that matter.

    Berhe

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. NEVSON stock just upgraded. This gives a strong indication of expected outcome from Yamamoto mission.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam FishMilk, as far as I can see there is no any official news from the DIA regime about the US diplomat’s visit so far. The ambassador has been in Eritrea since last Sunday, and according to the announced program, his visit must conclude today, we’ve yet to hear form the regime’s mouthpieces of this trip. Not very susrprising for those who really have read the regime’s behaviour over the years. It has been preaching on the people the US being the main enemy of Eritrea, and the Weyane being the enforcers of the US agendas, now it would not be very easy to tell the people that DIA has recieved and talks with a high ranking US official. In this information age, the DIA regime treats the Eritrean people as if they are living in stone age, and trying to hide publicly available information from the them. Besides, such kind of news may ignite a sense of hope in the people’s minds that the festering border dispute may be about to get a serious attention from the US, hence the people sense of freedom from the siege they have been under the pretext of border dispute.
      In my opinion, the border issue may not even be the main agenda of the DIA regime, it would instead put more focus on the toothless sactions that have been in place since 2009.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Abraham H. Yeah it is pretty quiet at the moment out there though, some say not to expect much until after the Ethiopia leg is complete. Seeing good news right now that Israel has abandoned its deportation plans. Symbolic was Yamamoto’s mission timing, to coincide with the 25th anniversary of the referendum vote.

  • Mez

    good day Taazabi,

    1) Sorry, the #1 on my last comment may had been a little bit far-off the norm. I want to add the following:
    2) At the end of the day (as a core policy), wealth creation is best done by individual peoples, and not by governmental institutions. Learn from the former communist block countries. Who knows probably you studied there and have first hand experience.
    3) the start and endpoint for every thing in a given society (nation) are the private citizens. If we remove all the artificial barriers–put in place by multiple players–the society (can strive really well).
    4) as of now, PIA is a destitution-manager. There is no better objective job description for him. Let me stop here.

    thanks

  • AMAN

    Greetings ATs
    This whole situation is messed up , man !
    I am glad I didn’t get into it wholly and deeply
    before…………….and it is time to leave it until
    it gets better and better care takers of the situation.
    So far the more you give the more it goes down the
    drains.
    Good RIDDANCE and Good Luck All.
    I sign off & close the page.

  • Mez

    Hi Hope,

    1) The political capital of the Eritrean liberation war has left the central stage of people’s life.
    2) It is now the era of striding in peace. We shall now being seen and measured by our performance in economy, ecology, diplomacy, you name it….
    3) PLEACE NOTE MY LAST LINE of comment above: “….to lead a nation (Eritrea), in PEACE TIME.”

    3.1) I wish PIA has those “magical leadership skills of PEACE TIME”. And I get it wrong.

    3.2) But, I have to admit he has NONE to show. Am I incorrect?

    Thanks

  • Mez

    Dear Taazabi,

    you can cheat:
    1) your Zoba Debub & Maekel junior secondary kids and shove them to war/ involuntary migration–thereby driving the whole makro/local economy into disaster.

    2) not me.

    3) just think what you said.

    Thanks

  • Hope

    Selam Aron:
    Plus:
    The rumor and the allegation saying that PIA ordered Gen Wuchu to have done what he might have done was but a RUMOR and a mere Allegation and Gen Wuchu or the Local Commander simply could have taken the action in like any Ear Zone.,which is a norm and even a perfect act,militarily speaking based on the circumstance.
    Btw,why did the inept and corrupt AU shy away from its mandate to investigate about the root causes of the nonesensical war?
    If the AU did what it was mandated to do,that could have answered your question and your dilemma!

  • Haile S.

    Selam Hope,

    Allow me again to say this and to add to what I, and separately MS, said to you in the last few days. Your apparent ‘anger’ covers the message and answers you want to give. I wish I knew you and be sitting with you on a sunny day with sweating cold drinks to cool things. If I may use this Amhatic proverb ኣይጥ በበላ ዳዋ ተመታ (the rats devastated the field, the innocent weed pays the price). Abrehet is certainly not a weed, but based on some of her comments, she was made to be a weed by our regime who considers everybody that does not adhere to its thought on our country’s governance, a weed.
    A suggestion: write your comments on a notepad, like I do, revisit and weed them out of all the unncessary before you copy and paste it on the reply box.
    Best

  • sara

    dear hope…
    FACTS ? Adey abrehet ember “sis” abrehet z b l semeaa ayfeltin!

    • Paulos

      Sara,

      Name could be deceiving. Adey Abrehet is so classy and super brainy too! Rare combination you could say.

  • Aron

    Hi Hope,
    If memory serves me right, you and Semere T argued at different times Woyane started the Badme war. Now you say, he ordered general wuchu and left to the kingdom and acted like he did not know. Can you please explain. If I am wrong apologies. Thanks.

  • Paulos

    Thank you Guest.

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Hope and all Awatista, ዝረኣየ እንተሎ
    I Abrehet Yosief am lost trying to understand the above reply. If anyone finds me, please hand me over to the moderator.
    Selam Hope,
    All joking aside, I appreciate that you are respectful. If you respond again to only what I wrote without making assumption, I will be happy to learn from you and respond if I have anything to add. Thanks again.

  • Natom Habom

    selam Hope
    you are right eritrean deserve more freedom
    but we shouldn t use freedom to malign our people
    or become a tool for foreign power ,change should be within
    pfdj policy not multiparty ,cause nothing change for african nation
    since they accepted this stupid policy while europe and america have only two or three party western wish for africa a multitude of party ,
    leave that aside you didn t tell me how come you come up with the eritrean silent majority statistic number ?? mean who did the census
    and where can we find it so for you and other to mention it .
    do we even know exactly the total population of eritrea ?
    I am very curious I heard this many times .

  • blink

    Dear Readers
    If the USA diplomat visit gave any indication that can benefit the worried , humiliated, tortured and many horrifying faces of both people in our respected countries, what could be the possibility that the crooked warmongering faces will look like more horrific ? It’s already been a testament to their ill plan that they are rooting this trip to fail and they always on a move to make their views more important than any other because they have the wits of decades old trainering . As if they had not been saying many lies here they are again at it doubling their chameleon face . If the man trip can get cooler heads from PFDJ the first thing to do must be write a letter to Meles second wife Susan rice and her bedroom gatekeepers . Think about the lies we have been told about Somalia al al shabab thing , think about the amount of lies we have been told , the lies will be always lies but how do we get here ?

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam blink,
      You make good points. But when you add very degrading comments about the women you refer to, it reflects poorly on you.

      • blink

        Dear Abrhet
        Is that it , is the thing you wanted to say from your higher class? Ahmm what’s not true about the evil woman ? She was Meles second wife and if you wanted to know you should ask the gatekeepers. Your decency can be shown .

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam blink,

          As a matter of principle, I object when comments about women focus on their nonprofessional aspect (looks, love interest etc). If you are objecting to what Susan Rice did as a diplomat for her government, you should stick to that. Insinuating that a married woman had a lover is an insult. Since Susan Rice is not in this forum, the insults do not affect her. However, it reflects on the rest of us if we don’t say Ageb. Meles Zenawi did what he did in the interest of his government/country/agenda. Susan Rice did the same.

          Now to go back to your comment, I am more interested to know who you are suggesting should send a letter to Susan Rice? Is it Yamamoto? If so what would he be asking for?

          • blink

            Dear Abrhet
            You pulled me again and again, now you pulled the moderator. I sincerely hate the woman and despise her not for here XY . She is a lair and she is part of the evilest acts in the past Administration.

            Moderator I apologize for not using better words.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haftey,

            ንዘይሰምዓካ ደብሪ ኣይትማህለል ይብሉ ለባማት ከምዚ ከማኺ. Forget about trying to make some sense into people’s heads for as they say, old habits die hard. Tell us instead about your take if Yamamoto’s visit will hold water if at all even if the impasse is confounded by Eritrea’s involvement in the region in general.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Abrehet,

            Actually is such outrages that should never get access to this forum in the name of freedom of expressing views. It just tarnishes its image. Entitlement to freedom to express views is but morality and respect for the dignity humans is paramount.

          • blink

            Dear Mr.Ismael
            I personally don’t believe you care for freedom of speech. Humans dignity is killed by religion and it seems you are a religious person looking for heaven. Morality , what kind of morality do you know ? You can educate me and others about the paramount things you keep for humans . It is a jock a religious person to brag about Morality and dignity.

          • Haile S.

            Selam blink,
            Why not just stop and reflect on what you said instead of reacting and going further in the wrong direction. Your approach is not in the right direction of resolving missunderstandings. Please back away from your more than rhetorical answers.

          • blink

            Dear Haile.S
            You can provide your red carpet to the person you think is right and i will not be jealous about it. what is wrong and right ? tell me according to whom ? Right for you may not be acceptable for me . Have you ever considered that people may have their own views . Enough with the Mr. wise thing.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Blink and all,
            Blink, this is an addition to what I said earlier refering to what you said to Ismail AA.

            ንመስል ገሌና
            ምርኣይ ደው ዘበልና
            ከለውና ዕንጉለ ኣዒንትና
            ኣብ ክንዲ ንውስኸሉ እምሮና
            ንድምረሉ መጉልሒ መነጽርና
            ናብታ ንደልያ ምኣዝን ዝመርሑና
            ጅማት ትሰብር ኢልና ዝገመትና
            Zoooooom! ዘርእዩና
            ንረኽቦ የለን ብጻይና ኣጥቂዕና
            ‘ንሱ ከማን እንተ ሰኒፉልና’
            ብሙሉእ ኣካልን ኣእምሮን እንተገጢምና
            ጥራይ፡ ኢና ንወቅዕ ሽቶና
            ንረዳዳእ፡ ንሕጎሰሉ ምድራዊ ገነትና
            ብድሕሪኡ ዘሎ ከከም እምነትና
            ክኸውን ዘይብሉ መበኣሲና
            ኣይነልዕሎ ከከምዝመጸልና
            ስምና ኣይንግበሮ መጥቅዒ ሓውና ሓፍትና

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Haile S.,

            Thanks this priceless massage woven in as usual poetic word. We are passing through curious times where rudeness and empty pride have supplanted cultural and social values and norms that used to tame and moderate the animal side of human nature. ሕማቕ ዘበን ክብታ ዝገብረካ ዝገድፈልካ ስምብራት ይገድድ እንዶ ግዳ ቢሎም ኣይመሰሉን ኣቦታትን ኣደታትን።

          • Selam Ismail AA,

            I have nobody in mind when i bring this quote. I bring it mainly because it is a diachronic truth that never loses its power. It is especially true in the world we live today.

            ISOKRATIS, an ancient Greek philosopher had said the following a long long time ago in ancient Greece:

            “Our democracy is self-destroying, because it
            is abusing the right to freedom and equality, it has taught
            citizens to consider audacity as their right, committing the unlawful as
            liberty, insolence as equality and anarchy as a bliss.”

            I like this quote very much, and from what i know everybody who comes across it like it, and they recommend it to friends.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Horizon,
            Thank you. The truism of this is the first line we should learn before we venture to talk about democracy and what it has to provide in life.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            “We are passing through curious times where ‘rudeness and empty pride’ have supplanted cultural and social values and norms……”. This is epic description to our current Socio-cultural norms. It took decades to supersede our decent cultural norms. A rude person does not understand that he is being rude, and will still continue being rude. For a rude person insulting means debating, insulting means idea. That is the problem we are facing in this forum.

            Regards

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam blink,
            I care for you and wish to understand your point of view. Here you write four paragraphs of why you dislike her. All valid points. Thank you.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Ismail AA,
            It is important to remember that our people, specially the younger ones do not have any forum to practice discussing and debating in real life. The only opportunities are in the websites and chatrooms, places that come with their own negative influence. As such, I really think we should be more lenient and continue to teach each other not only on the substantive matter but also on how to discus. I don’t take any comment direct at me personally and I really hope I can be a positive influence and gain more knowledge. I am used to the sometimes rough language from my people, who also have the kindest of hearts when help is needed.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haftey,

            That is just beautiful! Thank you.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Abrehet and sara,

            First, pardon me for addressing both of you under one entry. Each one of you deserve my humble respect to converse with you separately. Nevertheless, we all suffer from the constraint time bears on us. So, let me clear a few things lest I might have been misunderstood.

            I do not in any way have an iota of misgiving about any person voicing his views or opinion let alone our young compatriots. On the contrary, I believe that our youth and all should be given as much space as possible to express their views. And, our dear (hopefully) young blink does have the right to say and write anything with humility and respect of other. Our dear young (hopefully) does have the broadest possible right, too, to voice his fillings.

            I think I do not have to lecture you about the fact that there is limits to what we say and write as individuals. My rights and demand for respect ends when the rights and demand of respect of others begin. That is why I believe that knowing how I frame my thoughts and opinions in writing and spoken word is a virtue. Noble views and opinions or criticisms and misgivings about a fellow human beings can be contaminated and rendered valueless with just one or two rude word or two. Hence, my shock when I read what blink wrote about Mr. Rice and her relation with Meles Zenawi. Her role about politics has nothing to do with her marital loyalty. This does irreparable damage to a whole lot of people on Meles’ and Mrs. Rice’s side. I can imagine the responsibilities those few words carry with them in case the injured side gets alerted and pursues them. No number of apologies to us poor readers in this forum or moderators would remedy the damage.

            Thus, the point: let us fight for as much freedom as we can to express our views without any censure or fear. But at the same time, let us learn how to express them with dignity and virtue. There is price tag on a respectful word to fellow men and women; rude or rough words de-values the message to nil with sheer contempt no matter the nobility intended.

          • sara

            Amee- Ismail,
            you know you are one of those we respect in this forum… and i totally support what you are suggesting, but this shouldn’t be expected from some of our younger forumers only … the same should also be expected from the seniors.
            we read every day a lot of insults, defamation, and a lot of bad words
            about people who are part of our past and present politics of our country, if this is OK then why do we have only to avoid this to only those in this forum.
            believe me , coming from eritrea and with basic English … i learned many english words reading awate that i didnt knew in school, but i also read bad wards in english that made me think — English has so many bad words that i feel bad it is becoming a threat to my social upbringing than an advantage to my life… socially speaking.
            therefore your appeal is in its place but let us hope the forumers will heed your advise.
            with respect

          • blink

            Dear sara
            what is the words i used against Susan rice that you think are not fair ? just asking . Do you really believe that i was the first to use such words in this forum ? the people on the high road are just accusing me because i said this to Susan rice because they happened to agree on her position to Eritrea . The woman wanted to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans . Her main aim was not concern about Justice to Eritreans , her main position regarding Eritrea was to shovel Eritrea under the pre text of lies ( her way of doing business at the sanction time was a political crime against the Eritrean people on just to make Meles the evil murderer happy) . Trust me i hate the dictator more but it does not have to be at the cost of Eritrea.

          • sara

            blink dear,
            i was actually responding to the appeal of Mr.Ismail that we should use better language in discussing in this forum… and i was saying this appeal should extend to all not to certain forumers.

          • blink

            Dear Sara
            Just look after the self anointed people. When the time comes they run wild. The fact that I insulted Susan rice and find Eritreans who defended here says all about the degree of their own villages.

        • Mez

          Dear Hope, Abrehet,

          This visit by a high ranking state department official is by any account a welcome one.
          1) Generally every one needs from any one “transparency and accountability” of the respective nations/leaders. Interesting to hear:
          1.1) what PIA has to offer to a) america, b) to neighbouring countries, and vice versa.

          1.2) how and if PIA will open space for other opinions in Eritrea, and if he would stop his war of data hiding.

          Regarding “….gatekeepers….”, I beg you to differ; you are becoming a laughing stock man.

          Thanks

  • Ismail AA

    Dear Aman and Dr. Paulos,

    You may consider my amateurish inquisitive mind that seeks satiation at the risk of getting crushed by intruding between two giants. So, allow me to scribble a few things in the form of questions in the context of the exchanges which are voluminous in dimension but concise in presentation exchanges.

    1. Did the demise of the Soviet Union and socialist economics based on Marxist theory represent refutation of the philosophy of dialectical materialism or failure of the governance aspect of the state to manage socialist economics?

    2. Do we know conclusive scientific scholarship on this point yet beyond Francis Fukuyama’s “end of history” and the one liberalism as mono-ideology, and Huntington’s “clash of civilizations” that reduced contradictions to socio-cultural hurdles that will confront liberalism and its globalized free market economics?

    3. Since Fukuyama himself had voiced second thoughts about his original prepositions, – hence there is actually no end of history as long as humans exist in organic and inorganic worlds – and consider that the experience of socialist state and economics represented just one phase of experiment that is separate from the Marxist philosophy?

    2. What role did politics of access to resources and to forces of production play in the struggle between the market economics blocs represented by NATO and Warsaw Pact and capabilities of financing arms race?

    • Paulos

      Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

      Soviet Union collapsed simply because the system was rotten from inside where the aphorism goes, if Marx had lived to see it, he would have said, “I am not a Marxist.” And Gorbachev to his credit introduced political and economic reforms when he realized that the system was unsustainable.

      The nations which were later known as Welfare States however, adopted the non-violent form of Marxism [People who strayed from the Marxist dogma were labelled Reactionaries] when they recognized that narrowing the economic gap including social justice in tandem with sound public policy was the way forward. And that is precisely the reason that, most of the Scandinavian countries including Canada are able to weather economic termoil among other things.

      If we look deep enough into history, we can see why that is the case with Russia. Sure enough, Russia is not only between two different worlds as in Europe and Asia but it lagged behind for almost three centuries when it was under the Mongols when the rest of Europe was going through epochal transformations as in the Renaissance and later on Enlightenment periods.

      Fast forward, Russia under Putin is not any different. It has the highest number of social dissatisfaction including one of the highest rate of suicides, alcoholics, low birthrate and it is way behind interms of economies [It is the 5th] in the world.

  • Paulos

    Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

    I guess today Disqus is acting up. I just saw your comment. Here goes my turn:

    I remember the first time I heard the so classic and rather simplistic definition of Matter was in grade seven when my general science teacher said, “Matter is anything that has mass and occupies space” where I had to memorize it for the upcoming exam over and over again.

    Since then, the definition of matter, not surprisingly, has changed where later on we learned that space itself is a physical entity that can not be seen in isolation from the matter it accommodates–for lack of a better word.

    Furthermore, it feels like we had been dupped all the years when we learned that, the basic constituencies of matter are atoms, where the atom is broken down into deeper constituencies as in the nucleus with protons and neutrons in it and electrons orbiting around it. Before we breath a sigh of relief however, we learned that the rather reductionist approach suffers limitation where again protons and neutrons are summations of sub-atomic particles otherwise known as Quarks. And now we are at a point where the Quarks exist in duo where they are glued together with sub-atomic particles called Gluons.

    How about the Gluons, one may ask? It all depends whom you’re asking. If you’re asking a String Theorist, he or she will say, the Gluons are string like vibrations and if you ask, say, a Loop Quantum Theorist, he or she will say, they are nodes in the vast and continuous fabric of space.

    Space, we are told makes mass move and mass makes space [to] curve. Matter in that sense is not summation of quantifiable entities, rather an emergent phenomenon where space lends particles energy and the particles pay back the borrowed energy as they disappear into “nothing.” The continuous dynamics of appearing and disappearing particles out of “nothing” appears to us as a reality where we interpret it as a dynamic clash of opposits. Clash of opposits it is not. As Einstein famously said it, “God abhors vacuum.”

    The idea of understanding reality with in the interplay of opposing forces seems to trace its narrative from Judeo-Christian traditions where the moral and ethical standards are viewed through Good vs Evil, Heaven vs. Hell as if everything around us is understood through the standing of opposits. Moreover, personalities of the Enlightenment added on the tradition the same thinking where they employed Rationalism and Empricism in an effort to refute what is taken as undesirable for human progress.

    The “Dialectical” take of reality however, started to get challenged when Jaques Derrida among others tried to deconstruct what was hetherto taken as the ultimate understanding of reality. Derrida, the exponent of Post-Modernism famously declared everything is a text. Derrida argued that, the Western philosophical tradition is based on the celebration of one opposite over the other as in for instance, the elevation of man over a woman; the celebration of truth over lies and the celebration of capitalism over communism among other things. He went on to argue that, the fallacy of our understanding of reality lies on our preference of something that is “neglected” over the “accepted” where in a sence the accepted and neglected are nothing but social constructs. Thus, he opted for Relativism and Skepticism instead.

    To be fair to the scientific method however, we get close to understanding nature when we employ Validity and Reliability albeit it suffers limitation with in the micro-world.

    • Haile S.

      Hi Paul,
      You are our Hubert Reeves here at Awate. Professor Reeves is a Canadian Astrophysicist who lives in Paris. He makes astronomy accessible to everyone like you do here. Continue like that.
      Talking of matter, the first definition of it I heard is among friends playing soccer with a ball made of stocking filled wz plastic garbage: ማተር is ቅጫ ዓተር. It is my spoiler side speaking, but it is true. I am certain you know thus definition too.:-) 🙂 🙂 .

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        You’re so funny. And thank you for the kind words. I appreciate. The thing about matter being the ቕጫ ዓተር is generational for every one that I know seem to remember it in those terms. And there was this Tigrean dude who taught science and allegedly to have said in a typical Tigrean accent ዒፍ ልዓርሳ matter’ያ 😂.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos & Ismailo,

      Dr Paulos:) On my view the study of dialectical materialism and historical materialism are the study of the foundation of all philosophical sciences and their historical consequences on human being in particular and on the universe in general. So the discovery of “Sub-atoms” and “particles” does not change the scientific dialectical relationship of “matters and events” nor does it change the nature of their interaction or their properties. It does not change how they are transformed from one form to another. It does not change the principle of its conservation that matter is neither created or destroyed, though may be rearranged in space, or may be changed in forms.

      Dr. Paulos, I still look forward to disprove dialectical materialism and historical materialism are not scientific truth, when it is the philosophy of nature and science.

      Dear Ismailo: The questions you posed to us is very important and are pertinent to the subject on debate. I hope others to chip in into it to get a broader view on it. Here are my take on your questions:

      (a) In my view the fall of Soviet Union doesn’t refute the “theory of Marxism” or the scientific dialectical materialism by any stretch of imagination, for the following reasons (i) the reasons for the fall of Soviet Union is b/c the anti-Marxism forces of the western world were so potent in their propaganda and their unity on the onslaughts against the philosophy was impeccable to bring rifts within the communist party (ii) The Soviet leaders failed to make strong alliance with China and other satellites to defend the philosophy and themselves (iii) They failed to understand that economic developments are the precursor for social change to bring the classless society. The current Chinese market economy policy is a good preconditioned for the needed transformational society to the next stage of social development (in)

      • Paulos

        Selam Professor A. Hidrat and Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

        I just finished reading the link Ato Ismail posted [The Guardian] where the article so it seens is the introductory part of the author’s upcoming book.

        A good friend of mine who is a Professor of Litrature including his wife who is also an academic have highly recommended his previous book, “Adults In The Room” but I never got around the book due to partly the récalcitrant procrastinator in me. The article on the relevance of the Marxist Manifesto in the contemporary socio-political reality left me with a mixed feelings if not a bit puzzled to say the least. It is dark, pessimist and sardonic.

        Marx and Engles were under 30 at the time when they thought the short lived 1848 revolution in Europe was a vindicatoin for their prediction of the verdict of history where the prediction was not only way off the mark but it demonstrated their rather naive idealistic take of the world.

        The 1848 revolution was not solely a reaction to the ownership of the means of production, modes of production and forces of production by the bourgeois in Marxist lexicon that is, there was other crucial factors at play as well.

        For instance, in Italy, there was palpable grievances against the Austrian rule over the Italian principalities; the same can be said on the Germanic states and with in the Austro-Hungarian Empire as well. And that was one of the reasons, the revolution was crushed and rendered short lived in comparison with say, the French Revolution in 1779 and the 1917 October Revolution in Russia where the demand of the people was not only potent and organized but the demand was laser sharp focused as well.

        Furthermore, if my math is right, it has been close to 170 years since the Revolution and an attempt to make it relevant today is anachronistic in terms.

        If we look at the collective human progress, we as species have every reason to be optimistic about the future where we are living longer than any other time in history; we enjoy a better quality of life and standard of living as well; the world is more at peace than ever before; there are more democracies than chimera of “isms.”

        It warrants to examine the article from a different angle, if the author had his home country Greece in mind when he penned the rather Shopenhauerian take of the current sociopolitical take of the world. Certainly, Greece was a basket case of the financial crises that had plagued Europe in 2008. But the question is, why was it pronounced more in Greece? Europe seems to have evolved in an opposite direction where the North-South divide is more glared not only in tradition, norms and culture but in the establishment of political institutions and state formation as well.

        Germany for instance, created extremely strong state and rule of law way before the unification of the German speaking city-states. On the other hand, Greece was under foreign occupation where it got liberated not by its efforts by the help of foreign powers. The legacy of occupation by a foreign power created on the people not only a suspicion on any thing foreign but on their own government as well. Moreover, before the establishment of a strong state, democracy was introduced and not only the state was week but contending political parties resorted into what ate the nation from within including its basket case scenario in 2008—-Clientelism. Political candidacy was based on Patron-Client relationship where candidates promised and provided government jobs and positions to voters. That is the classic result of Huntington’s “The Third Wave” prediction where he argued that, democracy before establishing a strong state is a recipe for a disaster and potentially for a failed state as well.

        To get back to the issue if “Dialectical Materialism” is scientific, I am still of the opinion that we have to first establish what the term Scientific is. Again, if something is to be taken for a scientific, it ought to be able to predict the same result and it ought to have the potential to get reproduced.

        For instance, there is always a sense of uneasiness to take Economics as a scientific discipline for it is rather problematic to forecast with accuracy due to what we call, “The Butterfly Effect” where the factors are prone to volatility and contingencies as well. On the other hand, say, Newton’s Three Laws are reproducible anywhere and any time where Force is the product of Mass and Acceleration. And that is Valid and Reliable!

        • halafi mengedi

          Paulos,

          I know very little to comment on Marxism or dialectical materials etc. But i am going to butt in briefly, to throw a little something on the definition of ‘scientific’. Just focusing on the last paragraph, i think economics (or other social sciences) vs newton’s laws (or physics) is not about scientific v un-scientific. It is whether certain claims are amicable to generalizability or need to be taken within the confines their assumptions. Even in natural sciences such as physics and biology, we can see that it is possible to make more broad generalizable claims in physics than biology. And if we venture to social sciences the generalizability becomes even more limited and based on increasing number of assumptions (the butterfly effect you mentioned above). My knowledge of human biology and medicine is also limited, but I am fairly sure that not all clinical trial results are ‘reproducible anywhere and any time’ but they are not ‘un-scientific’ or ‘wrong’. Even the assertion that the ‘earth is flat’ (as made by people in the centuries past, and not by attention seeking celebrities) is not ‘un-scientific’ or ‘wrong’.

          Now, having thrown this little something, i will butt out and watch the discussion proceed…

          hm

          • saay7

            Halafi Mengedi:

            Impressive.Saying what you said a bit differently….

            Let’s go back to philosopher Karl Popper who came up with a perfect way to differentiate between science and pseudo-science. He, a German, takes the case of three other Germans/Austrians: Einstein, Marx and Freud. He calls what one does science and what the other two do “pseudo science.” You can already guess who is who but here’s the difference between science and pseudo science:

            Einstein = science because his work has predictive power
            Marx and Frued = psuedo-science because their work has explanatory power (oh, boy, you can explain EVERYTHING once you buy into what they are selling) but NO predictive power.

            Einstein’s predictive power can give us the moon-shot: the ability to calculate things to micro-levels where the risks for being wrong are disastrous. Marx and Freud? Meh, they make for great cocktail conversation. And sometimes, they can give us a Prime Minister in Ethiopia. (Joking, Amde!)

            saay

            PS: Tzigereda has hand-written notes from ELF days which is a dictionary of political terms. Tzigereda, what did you guys call dialectical materialism? 🙂

          • Tzigereda

            Selam Saay7,
            ወሪዱኒ:)
            According to ELF:
            Dialectical materilism = ዘንተመጎታዊ ነገርነት
            Historical materialism= ታሪኻዊ ነገርነት

            As you can see, it is all about ነገር 🙂

          • Amde

            Saay,

            To riff on a well known Freud joke along the Marxian line in this discusion.

            “be medeb tigil sebeb addisu PM ke enat ethiopia gar litegna eskalalu dires, saynsawim yhun msle-saynsawi lisanachew TafTonal”

          • Paulos

            Selam Halafmegedi,

            At Awate, we have something called Sal-O-Meter where the substance and caliber of the debate at hand is calibrated against the speed if at all Sal weighs in. There you have it. Sal is in 😂.

            I am sure you are familiar with Inductive and Deductive where the former goes from fine details to a generalized conclusion and the latter is the opposite. In inductive reasoning, we rely on a set of data and we infer if there is a relationship or pattern based on casuality and correlation as well. That is pretty much the modus operandi of the scientific community including the hard sciences and life sciences as well.

            For instance, we have two distinct economic school of thoughts whereby the Supply Side Economics prescribed by Keynes and Demand Side Economics prescribed by Fredrich Hayek where both see the market dynamics from opposing angles but one can not disqualify the other for both have certain “facts” in them. On the other hand, there is no an alternative theory to the central dogma of Biology where “Replication, Transcription and Translation” takes the center stage of the reproduction of living cells [Multicellular Organisms.]

      • Mez

        Dear Amanuel H,

        I am also of the opinion that the Works of Karl Marx, Lenin, and Mao (all leftist…) have still some traction.

        But I am always wondering, why their work is not further related to quantitative analysis mechanisms and tools. For example understanding Marxism from multivariate analysis perspective will be very interesting.

        Thanks

  • Mez

    Dear All, I just read a news piece that a top us diplomat is set to visit Asmara this coming week.

    Probably a fresh start?

    https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/443291761/africa-principal-deputy-assistant-secretary-yamamoto-travel-to-east-africa

    • FishMilk

      Hi Mez. You are indeed correct. This mission was actually supposed to have taken place three weeks back but was postponed as a result of Rex getting fired. Yamamoto was DCM at the U.S. Embassy in Asmara before and later was Ambassador in Ethiopia. It is clear that the U.S. has been changing its mood towards the PIA/PFDJ, largely as aresult of changing gulf alliances. Passage of HR-128 also serves as notice to the TPLF that pressure will be exerted on Ethiopia to withdraw from Badme under ‘guarded’ arrangement which allows TPLF to save face. It’s way too early to start hoping…….but!

      • Mez

        Dear Fishkill,

        It is good that there is some activity.
        I hope this will open the way for far reaching positive impacts for the people of Eritrea and beyond.

        Thanks

        • Hope

          Mez:
          It is GOOD NEWS!
          Be optimistic!
          Listen to Prof Asefaw Tekheste’s Interview with my X-classmate and x-Roommate Tewelde of the VoA.
          Once this impasse is resolved and the long awaited PEACE between the two nations and peoples prevails,and the FAKE border saga/ issue is resolved ,the PFDJ Leadership shall have NO EXCUSE or leverage or power to keep the Eritrean Silent Majority a hostage under any circumstance !
          NO WAY JOSE!

          • Natom Habom

            selam Hope
            who are those silent eritrean majority ?? and how did he kept them hostage ??and how did you came up with this eritrean majority statistic number ? can you share please
            or maybe another delusion her ,badime is our territorial integrity that eritrean have payed with 19 thousand of our people and who was fighting for badime diplomaticly or militarly by keeping tigray a war zone as consequence for their no war no peace game ?????
            who else than pfdj tell me ???
            America said this ,America said that ,do you not undersatnd
            Eritrea dont give a hit about America ??? who are they those who will take over pfdj ?? those who plotted with woyane ??
            those who said they understand why woyane expelled 90 thousand eritrean so its ok ??
            those who advocated economic sanction and isolation against the peoples of eritrea ,so no development can happen ,so youth can perish into the sea ?
            you are delusional my friend ,wake up and smell the coffe .
            you and your friend are like an aint infront of an elephant
            sheers

      • Tzigereda

        Selam FishMilk,
        I must have missed the „passage“ you mentioned from the HR-128. Would you mind to write the exact quote?
        Thank you.

      • halafi mengedi

        FishMilk,

        It is all about immigration, cut number of asylum seeks and possibly deport many.

        hm

    • halafi mengedi

      mez,

      +at the end of the cabinet minters meeting report, shabait alluded to meetings with US.

      hm

    • blink

      Dear Mez
      Can you imagine any change in the state department of African affairs as there is a sea wave of firing and resignations going on now ? Plus the sick dog John Bolton is in the town . Americans are becoming irritated with the Dijubuti dictator too .

      • Mez

        Hi Blink,

        Under the circumstances there prevails, whatever diplomatic activity (by the US) is a welcome one.

        This “no war, no peace” state of affaire is unhelpful for anyone.

        Thanks

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam blink,
        I thought you would have favorable view of John Bolton. After all, in his book, he states that he was not happy that the US didn’t push Ethiopia to respect the border demarcation.

        • Paulos

          Selam Haftey,

          I didn’t know he has a book out. What more did he say about the impasse between Eritrea and Ethiopia? And do you think he could be a game changer?

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Paulos,
            Yes he wrote a book and there is one paragraph that sent the PFDJ crowd into ecstasy. He states that Jendayi Frazer tried to reopen the EEBC decision and he was opposed to it. As to whether he could be a game changer, I don’t think the impasse is due to absence of one genius or one determined person. If the two governments feel that they gain more by solving the border problem, they will move accordingly. In my opinion, currently decision related to foreign relations on Eritrea side is more likely controlled by the Saudis, UAE and Egypt than by the whims of Isaias.

          • Paulos

            Thank you haftey.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            You are welcome Paulos,
            By the way the Eri Pharmacy app I mentioned a while ago doesnt work on iPhone. If you have a different type, you can get it by email from the programmer and his partner pharmacist. You open the email on your smartphone and download it.
            The emails are Leonapp2013@gmail.com or nokid777@gmail.com

          • Paulos

            Haftey,

            Great. Thanks again.

          • saay7

            Abrehet:

            In his book, he actually says Jendayi Frazier directed him to do something in defiance of EEBC and present it to UNSC; he says he didn’t know how he could do it, so he didn’t.

            I actually think that with him now as the Trump Wisperer and given Trumps reflexive opposition to anything Obama did, there is a better than 50% chance for the US to push for EEBC implementation. In the 2006, Donald Yamomoto made the very Melesian point that demarcation without resolving the underlying issues and finding soft landing for the fate of the villages to be divided by demarcation would not bring peace. Demarcation, he said, would be the cause for a new round of war. It’s 12 years later: Ethiopia has a post-TPLF gov; Yamomoto has a new title (African Affairs at State Department), serving a new administration, and heading to Asmara this month. Let’s see how PFDJ screws this one up.

            saay

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Saay
            True. First they will say, the world came back to us on its knees. Then they will make sure any initiative dies a slow death.

          • Natom Habom

            selam abrehet
            I know you dont like it but they coming back
            in their knee and that is our new ecstasy
            sheers

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Natom Habom
            Congratulations. Glad to see you are happy.

          • Alex

            Hi Abrehet,
            Why are you too negative. Be happy for a day since some positive can come up from Yamamoto trip that will be beneficial for the country.

          • Desbele

            Hi Alex,

            A huge benefit for the country would be if political prisoners are released.
            A little bit of mercy makes the world less cold and more just.
            Pope Francis
            Justice like charity begins at home.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay and Abrehet,

            I think yamomoto is Acting Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs. I don’t know how long he will stay in post, until the administration appoints one. He had recent interview with BBC hard talk.

            I think may be he is using Ethiopia desire as a request to facilitate and send tte message to Eritrea. I don’t think, SA and others have anything to do with it.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Selam Berhe:

            There are soooooooo many vacancies in all cabinets of the trump admin that by the time they get around to Africa (low priority) it will be 2020 and they will say, “he will do.” 🙂

            Are you suggesting that he is going to Eritrea without the express approval of the state dept and the Trump administration? Highly unlikely. Remember, the US always wanted to go to Asmara to talk (Johnnie Carson for example) and IA was saying not before you lift the sanctions…not before you pressure Ethiopia to implement EEBC but IA just caved. But he and his foot soldiers will present the caving as vincidcation because taking the same offer a dozen months or years later is their specialty. Then they will do any number of stupid things to make things even worse. Just watch.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            No Yammomoto is the state dept rep now so yes he is going with that agenda. I mentioned his position, with regards to past positions that you mentioned so not sure how relevant it will be if someone else fills the position. I get the vacancies but I am not sure they are in order, once they pick the undersecretary and the o ever that person will fill the positions not necessary the White House.

            What I mean by Ethiopias message is, I believe what ever Cohen says is the position of IA. Ethiopia rejected it and now if the new government is ready to entertain, specially if people of Tigray seem to want int (which seems the case) then I think that’s what is at play.

            And the Americans can lift the sanctions too, as a good sign.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Berhe
            What’s Ethiopian desire that American diplomat need to convey to PFDJ ? I think on this, Abrhet is right Eritrean foreign policy is in the tank of UAE,Saudi and Egypt.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi blink,

            There is no love lost with IA and Arab governments. He does what pleases him and fill his cofferes and nothing else, no principle, no loyality and no self respect.

            So if someone else offers better he will not hasitate to take the deal.

            I mean this guy (ezi Kulu Tistus kibil) did not even issue a press statement to condemn the bombing of Lybia by NATO when many others did that, Venezuela, SA and others.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Berhe
            There is no loyalty in such kind of business. It’s just a business. I hope you can give examples of any loyalty

          • Berhe Y

            Dear blink,
            Are you asking me to give list of leaders who have principle and loyalty?

            If that’s what you are asking:

            Mandela flew to Libya even he was sanctioned. When asked, we can’t forget our friends who helped us during our hard times or something.

            When Tony Blair was beating the war dram to invade Iraq he said, “Tony Blair should act like the PM of England rather than the US minister or something”.

            The Canadian PM, told George Bush, we are not going to join “coalition of the willing” and join you to invade Iraq, we only go with the decision of the UNSC.

            There are many examples… I told you already what Hugo Chavez did, and many others.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            This is the most authentic ክባሃል ይካኣል I have ever read when you said, “…..there is a better than 50% chance….” And the “…let’s see how PFDJ screws this one up…” is so funny. Isaias is ንህልኽኩም ሽሮ. You maybe right.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            The conversation:

            Yamamoto: I feel confident we can work out all our differences and as a gesture of goodwill, it would go a long way to building confidence if you could release the two embassy staff…
            Isaias: who?
            Y: Ali Alamin and Kiflom Gebremichael.
            I: never heard of them…
            Y: Also Fitwi Gezae, Biniam Girmay….do you know where they are?
            I: I don’t know them so how could I know where they are. Besides their name doesn’t sound American but Eritrean. So how is that America’s business…
            Y: they worked for our embassy sir and if we could make progress on….
            I: your name sounds Japanese. Was your family interned in a camp in World War II by Langley?
            Y: I beg your pardon sir…
            I: you know. During World War II, before the Cold War and Fukuyama. Is he your relative, he sounds Japanese…
            Y: sir, I really don’t know what any of this has to do with two of our staff who have been detained since 2001. That’s 17 years sir…when can we expect them to be released?
            I: when will Washington release those it’s holding at Guantanamo. When will it…..

            That’s what will happen. The man is retarded.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Happy Sunday Sal,

            That is actually the minutes between Isaias and Yamamoto foretold. Do you know what is the most difficult for me? How did we get here? Not how are we going to get out of this for it is just a matter of time. I still wrestle with the question.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Paulos, i think it has to do with our extreme naivete; at least the majority of us Eritreans. How could one explain the youth who run away from Eritrea risking their lives, only to return to the country after paying the so called “nay taesa wereqet”?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abraham,

            Because they are human beings, that’s why. If fir example, the regime would have punish them when they return, and take away their papers etc so they can not go back, no body would have returned.

            Singing “taEsa wereket” and paying a small amount, is considered a small price to pay if it gives them the oppoertunity to get something out, vacation with their families, getting married etc.

            Are they being selfish? Yeah sure. I can tell you by doing what they have done, it does not mean they approve or support the regime policy or actions.

            The rational is simple, if none of us are willing to put our lives on hold and go and ight the regime, we will not expect others to do the same.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            Are you ok then with accepting that as a norm? You get them off the hook when in fact what they are doing is a clear cut ልኽበጣ. They are entering into a tacit deal with the dictator where he uses their supposed “returning to Eritrea and coming out unscathed” as a propaganda ploy to sell his talking point as if everything is dandy.

            Men and women of principles do not compromise their conviction even if the stomach is empty and the throat dry of thirst. No one is asking them to fight on anybody’s be half but to remain truthful to their conscience if they have one.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Paulos, Berhe is actually a good embodiment of my claim of naivete, he is on record here telling me that Eritreans should invest in companies like Bisha mining so that they could have a say into their businesses.
            ኤርትራውያን ደኣ ብዛዕባ ከመይ ጌርና ሃገርና ነድሕን ኮፍ ኢልና ከማን ክንላዘብ ዘይካኣልናስ፣ ንቢዝነስ ናይ ህግደፍ ክንጸሉ፣ እሞ ከኣ መኽሰብን ገንዘብን ዝተሓወሶ ጉዳይ?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abraham,

            I think if you stick to the topic it would be better. What those sawa escape do is no different than you and I have done and continue to do. I am sure you will not be the one encouraging them to join and fight the armed opposition group on behalf of Eritrean people. I don’t know what you have done, but if you are like most Eritreans, you have devised ways to help your own brothers escape Sawa and pay money so they make it safe to Europe and America.

            What I am saying is, because there is no suitable opportunity for them to join the struggle so it’s best that we focus what we all can do in our selfish ways before we pass judgement on others.

            As to the Bisha investment you are talking about, if I recall the point I was making was protest investment. I don’t know what that is, here is an example of PETA and their protest investment against Canada Goose.

            https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4028038

            What you said here, actually says a lot about your way of thinking and how much low you think of yourself and your capacity, and how little you think of those who oppose the PFDJ.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            There is a sentence in Dan Connells book (Against All Odds) that should have served as a warning shot for us the citizens. At the time when we all read it sounded like a great character testimonial about an indefatigable man (which is how his fans still see him) and this was the sentence Connell got from Isaias in an interview:

            “When I am challenged, I become more stubborn – more and more rigid. I am very emotional.”

            You can trace our descent into where we are to May 2005. That’s when IA & Co were 100% certain Kinjit was going to win the Ethiopian elections and TPLF was done. It wasn’t that TPLF/EPRDF stole the election that upset him. It was his conviction that the theft-central was the US Embassy in Addis. (So he declared in one of those year-end interviews with EriTV.) That led to his decision to do everything possible to frustrate US interests until it learns that he is a player. That led to Somalia and Djibouti which led to sanctions which led to US looking the other way on EEBC etc etc.

            Call it The Curse of the Rigid and Emotional Man. Remember wikileaks said he wouldn’t take Hillary Clinton’s calls for 10 days. He wouldn’t grant Johnnie Carson (the predecessor to Yamomoto) a visa. He is going to take the same deal with the US (let’s talk) that he rejected for 9 years after subjecting Eritreans to indescribable misery.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            His psychological profile seems to provide an answer than his policies. It is a great point. Thanks.

          • Sarah Ogbay

            Hi Sal,
            Ha, ha, ha, That is the most ‘ .. አይነበረን ማለት አይኮነን’ conversation. you really know the man!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay and Awatistas,
            .
            A rhetorical question.
            .
            Did Isayas Afeworki become retarded around 2000 and after, while he was a brilliant, resourceful and genius as a young man all the way to the year 2000?
            .
            Maybe it is not retardation or dementia at all, maybe?
            Maybe that “brain” was always there, in fact, with age and experience he has improved and honed his skills?
            .
            Is it really acceptable to say that he was great in war but peace is not his cup of tea, is that the answer?
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            Kim:

            Your question to all rebels who became statesmen–Museveni, Nehru, Jabotinsky, Castro, Mao.

            They are all men who didn’t know their limitations: the traits that made them fierce rebels made them terrible statesmen.

            And, no, 2000 is your marker. For many Eritreans it was 1991: the day he ceased being a rebel. And we were just waiting for a constitution, which was ratified just a year before the outbreak of the war with Ethiopia which Meles, for his own nationalism-burnishing needs (because you Ethiopians kept calling him not Ethiopian enough) decided to exploit. So, I think its your fault: never tell a politician he doesn’t love his country because, the best way to prove it, is to find an occasion to do massive flag-waving: WAR.

            saay

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,
            .
            I disagree Meles was a terrible statesman. I think he was one of the top 2 or 3 great African statesmen.
            He learned on the job and made adjustments based on the realty on the ground to be an effective leader.
            Ethiopia of 1991 and Ethiopia of 2018 is the proof.
            .
            In regard to his dealings with Eritrea, I wrote a line to Berhe H. a little while ago, that was cute, if I say so myself. It really goes to the heart of Meles’s (and a lot of other Ethiopian/Eritrean) mixed up feelings.
            .
            I said ” It was what a good son of an Eritrean mother and an Ethiopian father would do.
            He wanted the father to pay alimony for the mother in perpetuity so that both can live in relative comfort and peace somewhat still connected but separate. It didn’t work”
            I think that explains a lot.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            Mr KH:

            Nah, that was not it. You know how Obama ended up having more drone bombings than George W? Because he was accused of not being a real American. Similarly, when Ethiopians kept accusing Meles and TPLF of having dual loyalty, of not loving እማማ Ethiopia, he figured out a way to do it that made many sceptics see him as Son of Ethiopia (particularly in Feb 99.)Of course that only lasted until the EEBC ruling then it was back to accusing him of being a Tigre who hates Ethiopia. It’s a lesson that PMHD and PMAA learned well.

            saay

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,
            .
            Well, most politicians are quick learners. It is a survival thing.
            .
            I had big laughs when around 97-98 the Ethiopian Government officials discovered the new “3000 Ethiopian History”
            I was getting embarrassed when they began to embellish it even more.
            .
            You mentioned Obama a true seasoned politician. True.
            I hope Trump doesn’t start a war with Russia to prove a point.
            .
            “sementegnaw shi” is upon us, I am afraid.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            U said. ” meles was one of the top 2 or 3 great African statesman” and u also said “he wanted the father(ethio) to pay alimony for the mother(eri).
            My question is who’s statesman was meles?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Teodros Alem,
            .
            Ethiopia of course. He has control and say about that. But he wanted to help Eritrea too. (father….mother)
            The proof I offer is Ethiopia of 1991 and Ethiopia of 2018.
            .
            I have no idea what today would look like if he had a willing and cooperative partner on the other side that was not greedy and retarded(sorry about that last word)
            Proof Eritrea of 1991 and Eritrea of 2018.
            .
            Mr. K.H
            .
            BTW: I was going to mention King Teodros of Ethiopia among the African Statesmen to earn some good points from you. Would I have
            succeeded ?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            No 2 or 3 the great statesman of ethiopia and helping the mother (eri) r contradictory.
            I know there was a war in 1991 And what was ethiopia looks like 1991 ? And What is right now ethiopia looks like?

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            Recently, it is in the news (the Guardian, i think) that a talk is going on between Ethiopia and Britain for the repatriation of the remains of Prince Alemayehu Teodros. The sticking point as much the British royal family is concerned is that they could not be sure of the remains, because it was kept with that of other royal families.

            One important fact is that the british museum has a lock of hair of emperor Teodros, and a dna test could be carried out easily. I do not know if any agreement has been reached.

            Moreover, ethiopia is demanding the return of the emperor’s crown and other items that are exhibited these days.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,
            .
            Yeah, I read a shorter version of it somewhere.
            If Ethiopia can negotiate the return of the obelisk from Italy to Mekele, how difficult would it be to retrieve the remains of our historical figures for our own museums.
            .
            It is similar to finding your stolen car in a different city and upon asking for the return of your car nicely, the thief wants to negotiate to loan it to you. Wey Gud!
            .
            We have to locate the Obelisk negotiators and send them to Britain.
            .
            Mr. K. H

          • FishMilk

            Hi Kim Hanna. Ethiopia of 1991 and Ethiopia of 2018? Unlike in 1991, there is now a State of Emergency, the TPLF and associates have become the richest of all, half of all land is under control of the TPLF while much of the remaining land falls to either Chinese or Indians. Much of Ethiopia’s socialist heart and vibe remains the same with no real elections having taken place; communications and media remain under State control as does land lease processes. Also as before, human rights violations continue to occur and Ethiopia still illegally occupies Eritrea. If you are lucky enough to hail from Tigray, then cudos to you! Miss those nice fish sandwiches from the small restraints near Asmara’s fish market.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam FishMilk,
            .
            I don’t know about fish market and fish sandwiches….ech.
            .
            You are right that Ethiopia is not perfect in 2018.
            Where and how can I start when you see Ethiopia of 1991 and 2018 the way you do?
            .
            Gud eko new!
            .
            Mr. K. H

          • Berhe Y

            Hi FishMilk,

            Can you also elaborate and compare Eritrea of 1991 and Eritrea of 2018? Just to be fair since you are Eritrean after all.

            Berhe

          • FishMilk

            Hi Berhe Y. You are missing the point. Most Eritreans know that Eritrea is a mess these days and we are not claiming otherwise. However, the legion of unionists here, wish to portray Ethiopia with a utopian spin, which is simply far from reality, as it too is in a lot of muck these days and is only marginally better off.

          • halafi mengedi

            Abrehet, Saay,

            If IA agrees to accept deportees from US, DT will try to get EEBC implemented and/or sanctions lifted.

            hm

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            “demarcation without resolving the underlying issues and finding soft landing for the fate of the villages to be divided by demarcation would not bring peace.” Don’t you think this is rational and reasonable to address the grievances of the people who live at the border and are going to be relocated against their wills on both sides of the demarcation lines? What is wrong to make minor adjustments to address grievances of those villagers?

            Regard

          • saay7

            Morning Emma:

            No sir. Not even close. These were things to discuss WHILE negotiating the terms of the agreement. But the Ethiopian Government was bragging that it demanded and inserted the phrase that negotiations would not be based on Ex aequo et bono (Latin for “according to the right and good” or “from equity and conscience”) That is: we don’t care what is fair and equitable: we want cold and literal interpretation of what the colonial treaties say. Exceeding stupid thing to say when your whole argument was we have a long history of administering this area. So you can’t renegotiate after a judgement is made. It’s like the criminal who refuses a plea bargain sentencing him to 2 Years, rejects it and is sentenced to 20 and then says hey can I have my 2? Nope.

            saay

          • Hope

            Bingo Cousin, a real ONE.
            Do U mean U don’t know Ustaz Amanuel Hidrat and what he stands for?
            No need to mention Hope or to respond–just thru a proxy one if needed.
            He will probably bring up the West African case–Nigeria vs Cameroon ,I believe-his fav example mentioned by his fav hero!
            bring up other collateral issues of releasing the X-US Embassy Employees, accepting Deportees, and other related Human Rights issues should NOT be a precondition for demarcation our borders under any pretext or circumstance, which should be discussed as a follow up as has been going through the Human Rights Council.
            If the USA does that/brings up those issues, then PIA shall have a opportunity and great excuse to keep us on the status quo…and HOSTAGES of his own Agenda until he dies, which we cannot afford ..

          • blink

            Dear Hope
            Mr. Amanuel Hidrat is fighting for the agazians or for the Abay Tigria that’s how I understand the man. He is against anything that can benefit Eritrea for his small dark corner. Do not forget the man wanted to see sounds of bullets in the streets of Eritreans. For example he continues to accuse the highlanders, use old Italian system regional names in order to divide Eritreans. The man will spend his day crying under his bed if the border issues are solved . How can you even not guess that a man who distributed Foro lies to care for Eritrea. The man was the one who was silent while the Oromo and Amhara were killed by weyane Meles vision. So that you know.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hope,

            Saay argument is on real technical terms and court interpretation of it. What Amanuel argument is based on realistic real time benefits to the well being of the Eritrean people.

            Honestly, I do not know the reason why Ethiopia agreed to go to court in the first place since they forced Eritrea out anyway.

            The more I think about, I think it’s a secret agreement between IA and MZ to what end I have no idea.

            Only thing I can say, it’s an opportunity for both of them to solidify their power and have total control.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Selam Berhe,

            You are getting warm..

          • saay7

            Amde:

            Et tous, Amde. Sigh. Let’s hear it:)

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Amde
            Do u agree with this
            1, eritrea agreed to solve the border dispute after they took control of badema and before the war broke out.(before 1998)
            2, tplf/eprdf refuse to negotiate until eritrea withdraw from badema(before 1998)
            3, they fought and agreed to solve it once and for all at the hugs
            3,meles said if the court decide eri border will be 1000 km from the disputed areas, we will withdraw.
            4, the court decided badema and a lot of other places belong to eri.
            5,Tplf/eprdf refuse to withdraw from occupied territories of eri.
            6, takeing other countries territories by force is illegal
            7,border dispute and other matters r two different things.
            8,the reason tplf don’t want to respect eritrea’s sovereignty is because of tplf long term plans which is if it’s possible to make eritrea part of tigray , if it’s not to make eritrea puppet of tigrai.
            9,the very weak tplf is good for ethiopia and the region.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Berhe,

            You are right, Saay was saying on the real technical terms. But I am still saying that the ruling still gives a leeway if the parties agree, they could make adjustments which will still be part of the technical implementation of the demarcation.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Berhe, you said, “Honestly, I do not know the reason why Ethiopia agreed to go to court in the first place since they forced Eritrea out anyway.” I really do not expect to read such from you, so you think that issues like border issues that both countries fought over could be settled by force for ever? Ethiopia might have had upper military hand at the end of the war by taking over not only the disputed territories but even penetrating deep into undisputed Eritrean territory; but certainly Eritrea would not just sit and accept the new reality, instead it would wait until the opportune moment comes and try to claim back its sovereign territory by force. But at the end of the day, one cannot solve such issues through force, the two countries needed a legally binding peace agreement that settled the issue once and for all for all generations to come.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abraham,

            What I mean is, knowing what Ethiopia decided to do after the ruling: renegade on the ruling, why they were bothered to go to court in the first place.

            Sure Eritrea can fight back to take over land it claims, but what’s stopping to do so since Ethiopia refused the ruling?

            Like I said, I don’t know what the motives of these two leaders was all along.

            The boarder and even the war is just a distraction what ever other motives they had, which I have no idea what it was.

            The fact on the ground was both Melles and Isayas become the undisputed leaders of their respective countries after the war. They used the opportunity to purge any potential challengers they had.

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe H.,
            .
            I have read many accusations of Meles’s illogical decisions when it came to Eritrea .
            He did equivocate on Ethiopia’s interest in favor of Eritrea on more than this one occasion.
            .
            It appears he wanted a permanent internationally recognized boarder of Eritrea, instead of a bilaterally reached agreement, while Ethiopia having the upper hand. I know many Eritreans get furious when that explanation is advanced.
            .
            I don’t believe, Meles’s long term judgment was sinister. It was what a good son of an Eritrean mother and an Ethiopian father would do.
            He wanted the father to pay alimony for the mother in perpetuity so that both can live in relative comfort and peace, somewhat still connected but separate. It did not work.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Dear K.H.

            First think about how fast they reached an agreement after the war ended. In ended in Summer and in Nov they signed the agreement, where for two years they both were making diffrent excuses to go to war.

            Second point is, if that was the intention, to see the boarder demarcated legally, why renegade in a very small part of the ruling and drag it for so long?

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y.,
            .
            I think, I have said this before several years ago. I haven’t read anything new to change my mind.
            .
            They reached the agreement quickly after the hot war because Ethiopia was offering to stay in Eritrea to enforce a 25 miles buffer zone.
            PIA is the one who made a biblical proportion blunder in starting and running the war from beginning to end.
            .
            As to the second point, Eth. Gov. (Sium Mesfin) were surprised at the verdict first. After a year or two they accepted the decision and wanted to solve local issues (Irob) and splitting villages in conjunction with the Eri. Gov. The Eritrean Government leader said NO just to be contrarian and use it for his political purposes.
            .
            This is a simplified version. There were plenty of opportunities to avoid or settle the problems in a reasonable way.
            The main irrational actor was PIA, and is PIA.
            Of course, this is my bias view. You may have a reasonable different view as well, that is fine.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            Berhe:

            I think this is the first time I am hearing that the Eritrea Ethiopia peace agreement was signed “quickly.” From May 12, 1998 – December 12, 2000 was 2 years and 7 months. The consolidated agreement, as you know, is called consolidated because it built on three piecemeal agreements (Framework, Modalities and Technical Arrangements.) The framework was the hardest, the modalities were the easiest and the Technical Arrangements were never signed by Ethiopia DESPITE assurances it had given the US and its partners that the two parties would accept whatever they came up with. (Ethiopia’s reneging of the Algiers Ageeement was not the first time it did that, thus the language of “final and binding” which is standard for any arbitration agreement. )

            Eritrea had the moral authority and with the right leadership it would have prevailed on getting the world to pressure Ethiopia more intensely to abide. But no sooner had the EEBC ruling been issued than the Isaias Administration for domestic reasons (G15) declared massive propaganda war against the US… ..then Kinjit got robbed and the engineers of the thievery were the State Dept (according to IA)…..then Somalia happened and IA was a man full of rage and fury and he saw that as an opportunity to show the world that nothing can happen in the neighborhood without his say so. A monumental blunder with massive ramifications.

            And no Berhe: there was no way Ethiopia was going to have “the spoils of war”: it is not Russia and Badme is not Crimea 🙂

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            It’s hard to argue with you specially on the specifics of that war. When I say quickly, I was referring to the time it took between the last war or cessation of hostilities and the final agreement.

            In my opinion, if that last war didn’t take place, I don’t think there would have been any agreement.

            It’s easy to say this or that (on my side) but that war was going to Ethiopia’s favour sooner or later. There is nothing Eritrea can do to end the war except to wait until Ethiopia comes back.

            Anyway let’s hope something positive comes out, but no matter what I doubt the people will benefit in anyway as long as IA and his regime is in power.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe Y:

            I dunno Berhe. The time between cessation of hostilities and peace treaty for World War II was 13 months. That’s a world war with the whole world at war. The time between cessation of hostilities and peace treaty in the Eritrea Ethiopia war was 6 months. So no I don’t think that was a short time either.

            Saay

          • Aron

            Hi saay,
            World war two was won with the evil doers dead. Everything was controlled by the winners in second world war peace prevailed quickly. I don’t see peace as long as our strongman is alive. I was in Eritrea for the last three months and I am in my ayni tigray as we speak. The difference in economic, infrastructure and the way people live in general terms at this point is we are left behind not by a small margin. I believe tigray pulled ahead while we grew backwards. They’ve built their little mad huts in to cities. Axum, Adwa,Shire and all the others used to be small cities are with multiple large buildings and booming construction, govt and pvt schools colleges universities and private small and large companies and factories. I’m am truly awe compa

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Aron,

            Thank you for bringing this up. This is my wild imagination and secret plan between IA and MZ that I think this whole war is all about.

            IA is an insider enemy who was hell bend in destroying Eritrea from within, and that goes back to 1960 when he joined the liberation movement.

            He succeeded in destroying ELF from within and he was on a mission from the day of independence to destroy Eritrean society, country, culture and innovation and hard work since. He wants to exile the whole Eritrean population and leave the country and the people destitute.

            Look this map and what that tell you? Why is Eritrea cut off completely from any future of economic development and integration with Africa?

            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Map_of_Trans-African_Highways.PNG

            As per Google the distance between DJibouti and Adigrat is 850 KM where as the distance between Massawa and Adigrat is less than 300.

            What economic incentive would justify the cost of doing additional 500 km of travel to reach the same destination. Not to mention the cost that involved to build the roads that do not currently exist.

            On top of that, crowding the resources at Djibouti port because it’s the gateway for most in / and out of the country instead.

            Is there any rational to this at all?

            I do not think this is because of MZ or IA rigidity… I mean it’s just pure economic terms and I don’t know they will not see the problems in this arrangements. And I don’t think Rigidity is really a problem, specially if you recall the “video of signing ceremony of the Algiers agreement” where IA extended all the way to hug and kiss MZ (I think).

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Selamat Berhe:

            It is normal and a human instinct to look for complex explanation to a complex problem. In fact, throughout the two-year border war, even IA would alternate between “it is a border war” and “no, it is not a border war” so I understand your search for theories.

            But, what we learned from Hannah Arendt after the trial of Eichmann is about the “banality of evil.” You can line up all the decision-makers of the Eritrea-Ethiopia war, take them to court, and testify under oath, and they would not be able to give you any reason that you would find satisfactory. In the case of Eichmann, Arendt was able to piece together that he was not an intelligent man, that he misunderstood German theorists about being a moral man, that he was a man who found satisfaction only when he was able to join a group, and that he was simply a man obeying the law. In the case of the Eritrea-Ethiopia war, I would say it was a lot of mistrust (Eritreans presented ourselves as naieve and trusting, and Ethiopians (Tigreans) presenting themselves as victims of betrayal and superiority complex) and after that what took hold is “the logic of war” best explained by Thomas Powers: “The logic of war seems to be if the belligerent can fight, he will fight. That leaders will not surrender until surrender is academic. How is a national leader to explain the sacrifice of so much for nothing.”

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            I get what you are saying. And I believe everything you are saying, if we are talking the times (98-2000) during the conflict times. Both were looking after their own self interest and they were blaming the other to justify their believe. This I think is ok, because most wars between two nations are conducted like that. For example, during Iran and Iraq long war, I am sure both people felt the same way. Or Egypt and Israel, each countries were supported by their own people and saw the other as enemy.

            That’s not what I am having problem to understand. What I am having problem to understand is, why is IA hell on bend to destroy the country (Eritrea), and to what benefit. Since 2001, the country is purposely being destroyed from within and I don’t know the reason to do so.

            If MZ was doing something remotely relevant to his own people (people of Tigray), then I can at least see the justification for it. But none exist in Tigray..and we can see the freedom, that the people have (in those videos) asking and challenging their leaders (TPLF) for all the mistakes they have made and all the economic problems they have encountered under their watch.

            But IA is destroying every little institution that had, along with the people. Our memories even started to fade that we really had to some degree normal childhood, that we played. Like AT last article, the 9 year old in Eritrea are not even able to act and play like children any more.

            For example in the link that I provided earlier “Trans-African Highway network” that Eritrea (is probably one of the few countries) who is cut-off from this project. There already well established road and even rail road from Massawa to Aligider, and the boarder of Sudan. Wouldn’t this make sense Eritrea to be part of in the project that’s funded by the International community? WHY?

            The same can be said in the African continental Fiber optic network. Eritrea is closest to the region in terms of proximity, where the supply is coming to the continent, and yet it no where in the picture. WHY?

            This is why I am having problem with IA. If he wants power and wants to stay in power, I get it. But nothing like what he is doing to the country and the people.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe Y:

            Ok, so that’s a different question. I will try to address the smaller questions and then the bigger one using what I consider to be similar analogy.

            On the continental fiber optic network, the one Eritrea missed, the GoE now says that it was a missed opportunity because we just didn’t have the money for it at the time. (That is part of their 100 page report to the African Charter.) On the trans-African highway network, my guess is they missed it for the same reason they gave a pass to the Continental Free Trade Area: We are already members of COMESA and we will join it when it is more than just a concept.

            On why IA does what he does: the only person he has gone on record to admire and (according to wikileaks) can’t stop getting enough of his biography books is Mao. You and I may remember Mao as the man who holds the world record (more than Hitler, more than Stalin) of mass murders (45 million during “The Great Leap Forward”) but according to others (including the grandchildren of the murder victims who have a huge statue of him in their capital city) he is the man who transformed a backward, poor country on a path to being a superpower. The other person the EPLF used to admire is Singapore’s Lee Kuan Yew who was not renowned for his human rights record or political pluralism.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            On the examples you gave, I can see the justification for the people who admire them. By the same reason, people may as well admire other dictators, the likes of Sadam, Castro, even Mengistu HM for that matter.

            With all the crimes they committed against their own people, none of them go out of their way to destroy their own country and their people. They did what they did to stay in power.

            What the project of IA looks to me, Eritrea is being cut off to die a slow death. At the same time what ever viability it had, in terms of infrastructure, resources is being build within Tigray and beyond to replace it. In other words, Eritrea is cut off to make a way for Tigray to be the main link to the main land.

            It’s like the what Israel is doing to the Palestinian territories…they keep building the settlement, they keep building the fence to enclose and the Palestinian people and eventually they will erase the boarders.

            The difference is, IA is doing to Eritrea. And MZ and company are building Tigray.

            Eritrea do NOT owe Ethiopia anything to benefit it’s own people. If the Ethiopian people desire is to have no business with Eritrea, then let it be. I am not asking something we have no control over.

            The problem is, why NOT allow Eritrea to develop in it’s own and let the market decide if it is viable or not.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            I forgot to comment on the small question. I know you do not buy the excuse they give for missing out the continental fiber network.

            Ok I get it being member of COMESA, if we were talking about free trade (of martial and services) but it’s beyond logic to miss on access to the internet and digital economy. Like I said, Eritrea by being proximity to the Middle East, the cost is the least compared to many other countries in the region.

            The Internet brings opportunity to education, health care, tourism and even becoming a player in the ISP and cellular phone providers as a viable HUB network and gateway.

            Same goes to the highway.

            Now they have missed to ratify the recent inter continental agreement for aviation.

            Always same excuse, we don’t have money, we need to study, etc etc. And then frustrate eventually nothing happens.

            I never read Karl Marx or any of the others philosophers unless it was a requirement in school (and if I did, either I did not undestood a word ofit or I totally forgot everything) but none of what IA doing to the ERITREAN people has any theory or study to back it up.

            The only close example that I can think about is, how the Spanish, Portuguese, French or the British made the native people people disappear over time from their own lands and made them irrelevant.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe:

            The problem with people who tell lies is you don’t believe them even when they are telling the truth. This is what the Government of Eritrea says about why the internet is slow in Eritrea:

            Internet service started in a small and limited capacity in the year 2000 but the annual increment is substantial. The broadband width remains slow because Eritrea could not join the sea-based Fiber Optic Cable connection when it was launched 12 years ago for financial reasons at the time. But the Government has been negotiating with overseas companies and Fibre-optic based broadband internet access will be secured sometime soon. The prevailing low bandwidth and speed notwithstanding, there are no restrictions on internet access and internet cafés are preponderant everywhere. They provide service to the public with proper considerations of the national laws and have become useful medium for information tapping and exchange. The social media is also becoming more popular in particular among the youth, professionals and businesses.

            One of the things that came to light with Saudileaks (besides resulting in Abdella Jaber going to prison) is which websites the government banned–some of which its supporters are now bragging about.

            You don’t remember much about Marx (theory) but need to know about Marxism-Leninism and Maoism (practice) because it hugely influenced Eritrea’s ruling class. It is their religion.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            A man has to know his limits right. I leave Marxism-Leninism to you and Paulos. Those ruling class may know a thing or two about the theory and it’s application but I personally think, it’s IA who decides everything.

            If IA does what he does based on some theory, then that will convince me that this guy has actually some principle. He has some higher purpose, some higher value that guide him to do what he does. But I don’t think of him like, it’s all about him and what he wants to do. Everyone, the whole population, the whole country resources, is there to just serve him as he wishes.

            When you guys talk about ማለት’ዩ፡ ጌጋታት ዘይተገብረ አይኮንን፡ present or past etc….I don’t not believe there is one single individual actually is confused enough to believe what these guys say.

            Like IA said,

            “you have to go the water and water does not come to you”.
            “Eating bread regularly is considered a luxery”
            “A person does not need more than 1800 calories of food”.

            To me it’s like you go to see a doctor because you have malnutrition. You don’t have enough food to eat. And the doctor talks to you about, obesity and the problem of eating too much sugar or red meat.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY and Sal
            :
            When Sal and I debate the ghedli generation and the USA founding fathers (here we go again USA history;-)), Sal tells me do not compare these two: the former were trying to liberate the society form feudalism and so they embraced Martx, Mao and Lenin and communism, but the later were a product of the renaissance. When I am in good mood, I tell him I concur and tell him (Sal) you have a point, if am not, I bring my own rebut to that thinking
            So for now let say, IA and the ruling group believed in communism because few people can go beyond the times and challenge the prevailing ideas, so we can let that go. BUT..
            BY, the in the videouyou linked here sometime ago, Yemane Jamaica says how an American told him that “we all were communist when we were young” when he saw him reading a book about Marx in his security guard booth, Yemane remembers thinking, us we will be communists even when we get older, we will never change. Now, he goes on to say, we have abandoned it and we are collecting our money
            In our case, the PFDJ ruling group are braining washing the younger generation about how communism, and how China was tough on its people and that was the reason for their success. So they justify, the killing and the repression, they call it a price for the survival of the nation
            So there are lots of people who are confused or believe, remember the person who told u not to confuse this “ህግደፍ ዝገብርዎ ዘልውን: ብዛዕባ ጽቡቅ ንመጻኢት ኤርትራ ዝሓስቦውን.”
            And here in lies the responsibility of every citizen specially those who live outside the country, specially the young, especially the ypfdj need think for themselves , think critically, scrutinize every line of thinking, until we do that I think the cycle will go on.
            All the crazy things IA says, the well fed and those who have it good propagate it, but those who are paying the price protecting the country, working for are the poor, they have not yet gave up hope on he government, they think once our border issue is solved we will enjoy the proceeds of Bisah and Calli Potash etc and the sacrifice would turn out to be worth it.

          • Desbele

            Hi Berhe,
            Me too dont buy it but you may give a thought for what Andebrihan Woldghiorgis wrote on his book ( i didnt read it but heard about it). DIA has supposedly said the following,
            “ብድሕረይ እንታይ (ዓጋመ) ከምትብሉኒ እፈልጥ እየ። ከርእየኽን እየ
            ነዛ ሃገር ከምዝሰራሕኩዋ ክፍንጥሓ እየ”
            ይፍንጥሓ ደኣ ከይሕሉ;

          • halafi mengedi

            Saay,

            Every time I am among ~5-6 Eritreans and Ethiopians, I hear at least 2 grand theories/conspiracies why the war happened. People can’t just accept that a combination of long harbored unresolved feelings and suspicions, poor conflict resolution skills (at high and low levels), hubris, short-term thinking, unfortunate timing, miscommunication, misunderstanding of intention alogn with bad luck could lead to war. People need to read the unbelievably easily avoidable series of events that lead to the killing of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and how that lead to WWI.
            hm

          • Aron

            Hi BY,
            I agree, it is rumored he actually was sent by detach Solomon Abraha and ras asrate kada to destroy jebha. He wound up destroying Eritrea. And he is not done yet.
            Aron

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Aron, it is extremely saddening to see our country lagging so much behind in comparison to those around us. And what is so frustrating is not because the Eritrean people to do not want to develop or have the capacity, but it is because the country is under the grip of someone who deliberately wants to see it failing. I don’t understand how the pfdj hooligans in the West cannot see this fact.
            ኣብ ትሕቲ ወዲ መድሂን በራድ ዝፈረሰ እምበር ዝተሰርሐ ሓድሽ ቁምነገር ዘለዎ ነገር የለን

          • blink

            Dear Abhram
            Which part of Tigray is the Tigrian speaking ? Mai Ayni , ask him what development he saw and ask him to drive to Raya azebo and all the way to four directions. The notion Tigray is booming is a pure lie finally get admitted by TPLF thieves. This is not to say Eritrea is booming but the selling point of Aron is a lie part of the 10% growth for 26 years.

          • Aron

            Hi blink,
            You could ask me directly, you don’t need a middle man. Unfortunately what I am here for is not going to take me four directions and I am not here to investigate lies and tplf. I am telling you what I saw.you don’t believe me investigate it yourself. I am not here to convince you my dear blink.
            Aron

          • Aron

            Hi ah,
            I just can’t tell you how depressing it is. The hardworking Eritrea people ‘re made to disappear and kebesa is getting depopulated. Young people are running looking for better opportunities everywhere but Eritrea. It is indeed very sad.
            Read berhe y below, he truly makes sense and explains most of it.
            Aron.

          • saay7

            Selam Aron:

            The WWII reference was just to show the time between ceasefire and peace-signing for Eri-Ethio War was 6 months: not a shoddy time given that the agreement was being drafter for the prior two years.

            I have heard so many testimonies about changes in Tigray from Eritreans and Ethiopians, I have made this conclusion (see if you agree):

            Tigray is developing in relation to Eritrea but lagging far behind in relation to other Ethiopian provinces. Now given that Ethiopia is supposedly made up of federated and autonomous states, given that the TPLF monopoly of Tigray as absolute as PFDJ monopoly of Eritrea, my conclusion is TPLF and PFDJ are terrible at governing. What do you think?

            That “looking down” as practiced now (not historically) is in the culture of what the Marxis called the “lumpenproletariat”: the unthinkers. And you can’t blame people who can’t think for not being able to think, can you? Marx found them very useful; so does Isaias & Co.

            Saay

          • Aron

            Hi saay,
            I agree on all points except the tplf monopoly, there are too many rich people, people can complain, fight and sue gov’t officials, can demonstrate,talk to the media and say what ever they want. From what I hear no retaliation. Anyways you guys pray for me find my young and stupid nephew. Good night.
            Aron

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Aron,
            I hope and pray your nephew is safe and that you find him.

          • Aron

            Hi Abrehet,
            Thanks a million.
            Arin

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. Big Tigray money is simply not invested in Tigray Region but rather in other regions of Ethiopia; this having a negative effect on the rate of development in Tigray Region. TPLF connectivity simply does not carry as much leverage and weight in Tigray Region as in other regions. Given this said, speed of development in Eritrea these days is like a snail riding on the back of a turtle……Wheeeee….

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Tigrai is not lagging behind by all means. I spent almost a week and half in Tigrai and I practically drove all over. Let me give you an example: I am sure you have heard of a small town called W’qro, it is half way between Meqele and Adi Grat. The town had nothing to show for a few years back but now you wouldn’t even believe your eyes where high rise buildings, banks with ATM machines, boutique shops every where including asphalt and new roads. Shire is another story where you have to see it yourself to believe.

            And I also visited the Oromia region and the kind of dramatic changes that you see in the towns and cities is almost the same as in Tigrai.

            A lot of Ethiopians are moving back either for good or just to invest where the system is encouraging them to do so where life is less stressful and laid back and that certainly is sweet.

          • Amde

            Selam Saay,

            “Far behind” is not accurate. But once you get out of Mekelle (which is booming) one would be hard-pressed to see much difference compared to other regions.

            Probably a bit more visible public infrastructure such as roads and what not.. that’s about it.

            It is simple really. It is basically state directed “socialism” in Tigray and more of a “capitalist” economy outside, especially around Addis.

            There is a nouveau riche class due to political hegemony. Investments get better returns in projects outside of Tigray. They would rather get rich(er) with proven investment areas than do the hard work of investing in Tigray to make it a place that can compete in terms of attractive returns.

            Someone told me there is a neighborhood on Meqele jokingly referred to as “apartheid” – full of fancy villas built by people who made big money in Addis etc..

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            In fact there is this area in Meqele which looks like an exact replica of an area in Asmara known as Tiravollo [Not sure if you’ve been to Asmara]. I remember saying to myself after I had seen the area if the replica was intentional as in “We can build one here too.”

            More amo to those who suspect sinister motives as in to turn Tigrai in to “Piccola Eritreo” for a pent up catharsis 😂.

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            I have never been to Asmara.. I think you promised to show me around :-).

            One of the cool things I see in Ethiopia is the sheer number of experimentation in architecture design. Most of the time they become cheap imitations. But it is high praise for the designers when an Asmarino can recognize and feel comfortable in how well the such a project was executed. As you know, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

            Perhaps in ten years we will see an equally well executed piccola Meqele in Asmara.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            You’re something! The “Piccola Meqele” is so funny. Here is an interesting thing, most of the great chefs, carpenters, plumbers, eletricians including mechanics and hairdressers particularly in Meqelle are Eritreans of an Ethiopian origin where the social dynamic shift is palpable. Not only architecture is outsourced. And those expertise and small businesses are as you know the bedrock of the growing economy. “Reversal of Fortune” as the title of the movie where Jermey Irons in it. Either blame it on Isaias or all the props to Meles. It is all a matter of perspective.

          • Amde

            Hi Paulos,

            Generally speaking, your description of Eritreans’ success in Meqele mirrors the experience of most other Ethiopians in other parts of the country. It also explains much of the embittered feelings about the whole independence thing.. they were generally perceived as successful and at the top of the social peaks and hence difficult to accept claims of mistreatment and oppression.

            Maybe about ten years ago I met an Eritrean living in Kenya visiting the US.

            He told me “Eritreans are successful wherever they go outside of Eritrea. But not so much in Eritrea itself. We are not good to each other”

            Do you agree with that? If not agree, do you think of it as a generally accepted statement within the Eritrean community?

            I am generally uncomfortable with statements of self-flagellation (however honest they may be). So my instinct is to think there might be a couple of basic reasons why they may say what they saying – otherwise such broad generalizations make me uneasy.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            In fact, to the contrary. Eritreans are known among other things for reaching out and helping each other not only in Eritrea but any where else. Their strong sense of work ethic I would say is second to none.

            One of the saddest thing is, how could it possibly go wrong for a nation which is blessed with those kind of remarkable people? I wrestle with that question every day.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Kim Hanna. If you believe that MZ had a soft spot for Eritrea, you should then pull up the transcript of his interview with IRIN on 29 Oct 2003 wherein he said “First of all we do not believe the Boundary Commission decision is proper and legal” further adding “And there is no way in hell that the decision on Badme which says that it is part of Eritrea can be anything other than illegal and unjust”. Please keep in mind that before signing the Algiers peace fire Agreeemnt that Ethiopia unsuccessfully tried to take Assab.

          • Selam Brhe Y.,

            When you say, “Honestly, I do not know the reason why Ethiopia agreed to go to court in the first place since they forced Eritrea out anyway.”, is the the million dollar question nobody but MZ/tplf could answer, and the root cause of all the present ethio- eritrean problem.

            A little differently from what K.H has said, i think that M.Z. was much more the son of his mother than the son of his father. His soft spot for eritrea did not allow him to look far in to the future, and he did not care much how ethiopians felt, and whether both people would live side by side in peace in the future.

            He thought he had broken the spine of the amharas, he did not care about the oromos and the rest. He felt invincible and he had the backing of the west. He was the only head of state in history who fought hard to land-lock the country he ruled. Even when ethiopia was invaded he proved himself a reluctant warrior, as said by many. After eritrean independence, he allowed eritreans to control ethiopia’s economy, etc.

            The icing on his cake for eritrea was when he went for arbitration after ethiopia, a victim aggression, drove out the aggressor sacrificing tens of thousands of her children, a decision that was taken by mz/tplf alone, and not by the people of ethiopia, who sacrificed their children. He cared a lot for the survival of the country he fought for (remember, we fought for eritrean independence more than eritreans themselves), a fact few eritreans appreciate. In my opinion, here lies the main reason for the unfortunate situation between the two countries, a legacy that nobody is proud of.
            ……..

            If with this chance i may say a thing or two as to the visit to asmara of an american official from the Trump administration (I can’t say that i have read every comment, and therefore could make a mistake), i see that unreasonably too much is expected of the visit. It seems as if the eritrean regime and the american official will decide in ethiopia’s absence what ethiopia is to hear and then do, which is to get out of badme, as simple as that. Otherwise, sanctions and what not will follow.

            I do not believe that it will be as simple as that without ethiopia having her own position heard and taken into consideration. Two main points: a) eritrea refuses negotiations of any sort, while ethiopia demands negotiations, b) ethiopia says implementation of the eebc ruling after restoring relations, while eritrea says, implementation first. It seems that it is not going to be a smooth journey.

            In addition, the news from addis is that ethiopia may demand strict interpretation of the rules, regulations and decisions, such as the TSZ, the austing of the UN force, ect., which means a process that is going to take a long time. That is why some people say that stubbornness is abundant on both sides, and they put more weight on elders and religious leaders than any outside forces.

            Nobody could solve the border problem better than M.Z. in such a way to suit IA’s interest, if he was not afraid for his throne. All ethiopians and most tigrayans would have been against his decision. PMAA can not force the eprdf, or act above the party and the ethiopian parliament, and if the american government tries to imposes itself on the ethiopian pm, it does not mean that he is not going to react for the sake of ethiopia’s sovereignty, whatever may be the cost. Therefore, it remain to the two people to solve the impasse.

          • Tedla

            Berhe,

            Your argument is clever, and I think you liked it because both Meles and Isayas successfully purged their competitors and became the unchallenged alpha males in their respective countries. Particularly for Meles, the Badime war all but cemented his totalitarian control. Hence he must have pre-engineered the war to clean house.

            But this seems implausible. For one thing, wars are pretty unpredictable. To engineer a war so that the outcome is essentially known before it even started is a tall order to pull off. I think even for leaders with absolute authority over their territory, the chance of conducting a managed war is a challenge. Mind you, such people
            have the option to start a war at their will, but wars involve at least two parties. Starting a war could be your decision, but ending it requires the other party’s consensus.

            As it has been said at the time, Meles was for court arbitration (much like the case of the Hanish islands just a couple years earlier) but the hardliners (Siye, et al) forced him to tag along and “teach Eritrea a lesson”. This story may or may not be true, but at the time The Economist also had an article talking about a formation of a war council that excluded Meles – because of his soft spot for Eritrea. If that really happened, Meles could not have known apriori the outcome of a possible war. Even if he was not sidelined from the main action, war is too risky a project to get on to satiate one’s power needs.

            Besides, the Ethiopian public resentment against Isayas (for land-locking the country) could find a way to vent if war erupted. And
            of course, Meles knew that too – he just has to read the papers in Addis. This is yet another reason working against a managed war. In other words, too many unknowns.

            I think the more-or-less widely accepted explanation is the correct one: EPLF wanted a privileged market in Ethiopia, but that would be getting in the way of what TPLF wanted. Hence the inevitable confict.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Tedla,

            Thank you for the elaborated replay. I do agree to the most and all points you made. Yes you are correct, war is not something one can grantee the outcome. Like you said, I would buy the widely held reason, economic reason but I only see the validity of that argument, for the eruption of the war and until the war is settled.

            My speculation really comes down to the way things has turned out since the peace agreement of 2000. Why would Melles and Ethiopia chose to not follow through with the Algiers agreement, specially since MS was the undisputed leader after he cleaned house?

            For example, is he really convinced that, Ethiopia will be better off if it has no future relationship with Eritrea. The analogy that I would like to draw is, suppose the US wad denied access to Panama canal by a small time criminal leader Norega. The US instead of trying to get rid of him or force him to agree for the mutual benefit, would go on it’s separate way to build another canal, that would cost billions of dollars and it will take three times longer to ship through?

            If IA is in the way of getting Ethiopia access to sea with favorable outcome for both countries, wouldn’t it be easier to do so rather than build another road / port almost from ground up? Specially if the EEBC is the agreement that’s buying him time to stay in power? Why would MZ give IA the excuses?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hey Saay,

            No question that Badme was administered by ELF until it was pushed out by the alliance. And I still believe Badme “not the village” only but the whole Badme region belong to Eritrea. Now the problem is not only the “ badme village” but many villages that belong to us are given to Ethiopia in central region of the border. So when the ruling gave us a leeway that if the two parties agree could make adjustments, are you saying we will not claim our villages if we get the Badme village because that was the contested area. I don’t understand even if Ethiopia left Badme for Eritrea we will not claim the other villages kind of positions, when there are possibilities to get them back? The Eritrean youth didn’t die for Badme only, they die also those villages (actually right in those villages) that are gone to Ethiopia. It is ridiculous to unclaim them when we have the possibilities to claim.

            Regards

          • Alex

            Hi Saay,
            I completely agree with you in that there’s some hope regarding demarcation with Bolton at National Security advisor. Let’s hope PIA doesn’t screw up this big apportunity.

          • saay7

            Alex:

            If you take a look at Yamomoto itinerary through East Africa, he will spend the most number of day (3) in Eritrea. Part of that is meeting with the Asmara-based diplomatic mission. So whatever progress will be made will be based on their testimony and not the inane speeches of IA and his den of parrots.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Hope he doesn’t pull ዓዲሓሎ on Yamamoto pretending to be out of the country. The guy is a nutcase, anything is possible.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            It depends what Yamomoto is bringing. IA made time from his busy schedule to meet with with:

            Eritrean Comedian Tiffany Hadith (two months ago)
            Eritrean Rapper Nipsey Hustle (this week)

            “Money talks, suckers walk,” as the expression goes. The only problem of the opposition is that we are poor. Otherwise, boom

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            A prisoner busted out of prison driving off a car that had been parked inside the prison, then we all got excited and we said this is it; Wedi Ali rolled down the Tanks and we all got excited and we said, this is it; CoI piles gross human rights violation report, we got excited and we said, this is it; Akhria went Thoreau, we got excited and we said, this is it; Yamamoto is travelling to Eritrea….ድኻታት ብሕልሞም ማዓር ተዘይበልዑ ኔሮም ብጥሜት ምስተወድኡ ኔሮም as they say.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            ክባሃል እኳ እንተተኻእለ እዩ ማለት ኣይኮነን:: እምበር (in the immortal words of Abrar Osman):

            ሰብ ባሃላይ!
            ፍጥር ክብል:
            ኢሉ!
            ይብል!
            ክብልዩ!

            መንከ ገዲፉ?
            ኢሉ ተሪፉ
            ኢሉ ተሪፉስ
            መዓስ ዓሪፉ?

            ሕጂውን ኢሎም
            ኣበይ ከዕርፉ
            እንተበሉውን
            ኢሎም ይተርፉ!

            https://youtu.be/u0PuuLz5-kg

            Saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Thanks much. That is one of my fav.

            Yamamoto goes to Eritrea and we insist to keep this in mind:

            https://youtu.be/9K30e9O3Nng

          • iSem

            Hi Sal: quiz for you
            do u know what bad boy couin iSem is going to say about these lines?
            hint: ፍቅረይ አይትስሞዮም……
            🙂

          • saay7

            iSem:

            Nope, as usual, I am stumped by badboy cuz iSem.

            But, I did see one of those things Facebook was invented to show: a bunch of ፅዓዱ Europeans singing “ኣብ ፀምፀም በረኻ” Well, not the actual lyrics but the chorus: “shala la la la”.

            saay

          • iSem

            Sal:
            you are faking it, u are never stumped. It weekend so here u go, u will like it. I figured u will know what I will say cus there was the famous line, seb yhami:-)
            ፍቅረይ አይትስሞዮም፡ ሽላ አሞራ ኮነ ክመጻኪ

            ስኽፍ አይበልኪ

            ዳኛ አይኽሰስ፡ ሰማይ አይሕረስ ኢሎም እንተመስሉልኪ

            ልብኺ

            ነፊሕኺ

            ድኛ ብገበኑ ይኽሰስ

            ሰማይ ብነጎዳ ይሕራስ ቢልኪ ምስሊ

            ፍቕረይ ናተይ
            haha

          • sara

            dear saay,
            you are right nothing will come out of the Yamomoto visit…
            even his name “Yamomoto” sound about disaster to come than good.

          • saay7

            Selamat sara:

            I am not saying nothing will come out of the Yamomoto visit. I am saying if something comes out, it will be because of the Asmara-based diplomats who are better spokespersons for the regime than the regime itself.

            And I know it’s second nature for supporters of the government to make fun of someone based on their looks, origin, name but you are young enough to change so please give that up.

            saay

          • sara

            saay dear,
            ok, your assumption if something comes out , i think you mean positive will only be because of the diplomats in eritrea…
            do these foreign diplomats have better perspective
            to present to another foreign diplomat than those in the government,
            that will help change the stand of US GOV. how come? yanee keyf?

            as for the advise…. ok..accepted and thanks

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Alex, the big question is, is DIA really interested in finding a final solution to the border issue? I don’t think he would easily give away his መብልዒቱ

          • sara

            Alex. dear..
            i don’t want to disappoint you but PIA want accept any thing short of demarcation on the ground first and if the USA want to play a positive role it must support a loan from the world Bank to build a WALL , that will be known as the great wall of Eritrea.

          • Abraham H.

            selam sara, ሳላ ኢሳያስን ደገፍቱን ንሃገርና ከም ዘይትንበር ዝገበርዋ፣ በዚ ሎሚ ንተጋሩ ንሕና ኤርትራውያን ኬድናዮም እምበር ኣይመጽኡናን፣ ዝኾነ መንደቕ ከኣ ንዓና እምበር ንዕኦም ዝሃሲ ኣይኮነን

          • sara

            selamat Abraham
            i saw who and how many = up voted you –congra,,,, you must have written in tigryna some thing appealing to our elders of the forum.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam sara,
            Abraham H wrote “Thanks to Isayas and his supports, our country is prevented from surviving. Currently, it is us Eritreans who are going to the Tigreans, they are not the ones coming to us. Any wall will hurt us not them.” That is my best effort at translation, it may not be exactly what he intended to say.

          • sara

            Dear Ms Abrehet,
            thanks for the translation, i actually read what was written but was a not sure what he meant.
            Ms. Abrehet bear with me… throughout our history we been victims of many invading forses from far and near, and the treat still continues to this day. don’t you think those of us by virtue our age or other
            we have to shoulder all the consequences of an protected borders.
            some may not have faced those ugly , cruel situation but many have
            seen that will compel you to want to have a big wall not simply the so called demarcation.

          • Paulos

            Sara,

            How about the invasion from inside when Isaias who is not an Eritrean destroying the country when you are on a lookout for boogeymen from near and afar [far].

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Dear Sara,
            I fully understand you . The pain felt by the younger generation is even more acute and real in that they witnessed a horrible war first hand and lost many of their comrades in battle. More are on standby, for years, to deploy at any given moment should the situation deteriorate. While I can relate to the emotion of “I wish we could simply close all walls and avoid outside enemies”, you and I know it is not practical. Nor are enemies from across the border only.

          • Desbele

            Selam Sara
            ናይ ምንታይ ልቓሕ ኣገልግሎት ደየለውኽን
            ዘይስንኻስ ሑጻ ቆርጥመሉ!
            ኣተርጉምዮ ኢኺ

          • Amde

            Selam saay,

            Can awate.com get into the betting business because I feel like I want to make some money with the Yamamoto frenzy going on.

            Let me list why I think a year from now we will be in the same exact situation we are in:

            1. Nobody has said why it is in US interest for the demarcation thing to happen at any specific point in time. As a general “It would be nice” sort of thing, yes – it would be nice. But, what will it gain? Peace between Ethio and Eri? Not likely with Isayyas at the helm. And Ethio/Eri peace is…. in the grand scheme of things .. immaterial.

            2. I would say, from the western world’s point of view, Eritrea’s importance lies in being a disproportionate source of refugee outflow. The most important factor driving it is regime behaviour. This behaviour will not change whether or not the border is demarcated.

            3. If Eritrean opposition is to be believed, the day after demarcation, Eritreans are going to finally revolt against the Isayyas regime. Nice for Eritreans, but it constitutes a large uncertainty in a region awash with uncertainties.

            4. The more likely explanation for the Yamamoto trip is possibly client shopping. Has Eritrea been looking for patrons?

            5. US best case is for this minor real estate kerfuffle to get resolved without increasing regional turmoil. That is – for demarcation to happen with the regimes on both sides more or less intact. The Ethio side has a new (very new) power at the helm, with a thick agenda. It is not in the Ethio side’s interest to deal with this issue now. As I have tried to explain, no strong constituency for this to happen anytime within the next two years.

            6. And finally, Trump..is…Trump. Probably the only time he has heard of Ethiopia is when his daughter probably mentioned her Ivanka brand shoes are made there.

            So that takes care of motive.

            Means?

            Yes, the US can compel on Eritrea’s behalf. But that was always true, and it didn’t for a number of its own selfish reasons.

            Opportunity?

            I don’t see what is different. Eritrea is firm in what it wants. Ethiopia has a new leader who would rather not have to deal with this issue. If anything, assuming the Yamamoto trip is a China vs US competition, the US would rather improve its relationship with Ethiopia, so screws are unlikely to be applied.

            Still, it would be entertaining to see what comes forth.

            So.. who wants to bet… 100 Shekels? Nakfas? Birr? Pesos?

            Amde

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amde. China’s rapidly expanding military base quietly established in Djibouti in 2017 has pressured a U.S. change of heart in regards to Eritrea, at least in military strategic terms. This along with changed gulf alliances, means the U.S. is trying to negotiate some possible strategic ‘security’ alliance/positioning/cooperation with Eritrea. Hopefully Badme will merit serious discussion time, and may even enter into collective bargaining discussions, but it is unfortunately not a U.S. mission top priority.

          • Amde

            Selam FishMilk,

            But the US already has a base in Djibouti. Why would it shop for another footprint somewhere else in the region? Did Djibouti place restrictions on US base expansions or operations?

            Amde

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amde. Tensions between Djibouti and the U.S. became very strained after the Djiboutian Government ordered the U.S. to vacate/close their premises at the Port of Obock only to later give it to China. U.S. military air operation out of Djibouti were suspended earlier this month following a couple of aircraft crashes which remain under investigation. Djiboutian air traffic control teams said to spew anti-American rhetoric and have refused timely landing of aircraft. China’s active pursuit of an African Silk Road along with Trumps’ current hard feelings against China, do not bode well. On top of that, is the issue of changed gulf alliances.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam FishMilk,
            .
            O.k, O.K.
            You have very specific information of incidents and explanations, so I have to ask who the source is, that is providing you with such timely intelligence.
            .
            If your answer is you saw it on u tube or read it on national inquirer or worse you read it on Bagdad Times, our, you and me, diplomatic relations will be severely strained. It might even get to the breaking point.
            .
            So you need to take some confidence building measures, like, this is all your opinion and you put two and two together to come up with the scenario of global alliances. OR admit this is just your wish list and we will live with it.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Mez

            Dear Amde,
            me.

            The us want to see what—new—has Asmara to offer.

            1) Bashir of Sudan, and—newly probably—Somaliland are moving in Russian direction.
            2) China sitting firmly in Djibouti,
            3) Ethiopian politics too much inward looking,
            4) gcc split is becoming deeper by the day, more unpredictable,
            5) no end in sight regarding Somalia nation building.
            6) for America, Eritrea is now an odd man who may want to listen carefully to try some thing new and fresh.

            With this PIA has the chance to be listened.

            Thanks

          • Amde

            Selam Mez,

            Interesting take.

            “The us want to see what—new—has Asmara to offer.”

            What – in your opinion – does Asmara have in terms of anything new to offer?

            Amde

          • Mez

            Dear Amde,
            There are a lots of things what the PIA may offer.
            1) for the past 80 years or so, the primary focus of the us in that part of the region was oil, oil, oil (primarily from KSA).
            2) after the collapse of the east (communist block) a couple of things happened. a) the emergence of china as a global power, and its role as an infrastructure star in Africa, b) the resurgent Russia with its fingerprint in Syria and beyond, c) the fuel self sufficiency of the US
            3) with all the above and also the rapid “sort of fracturing”–in the republican ideology–are all constantly changing the foundation of policy decisions. Hence the priorities and positions of this global power is more and more quasi unpredictable.

            with this as a background, Asmara can offer quite new horizons and opportunities for the US in the region–irrespective of what had been there on the ground over the past 30 years. When it comes to self interest, nobody cares about every thing else. for example Asmara could play as a good spoiler of the china silk road (may not be easy). It could offer a military base (in some way) to the us. No body can stand on the way, if that need really get consolidated. you have to note that Asmara is a small nation (less than 10 million people), hence very easy to maneuver around for a global power need.

            A lot of things could be initiated.

            Thanks

          • Amde

            Selam Mez,

            Sounds like you are saying it is US that has changed, not Asmara.

            I guess we will see.

          • Mez

            hi Amde,

            yes, you got it.

          • halafi mengedi

            Mez and AMde
            I am going to try one more time.
            It is all about 1) Immigration 2) immigration 3) other things.
            hm

          • Amde

            Selam hm,

            I tend to agree the immigration issue would be a big “western” specifically European issue.

            But I would imagine the forces driving emigration from Eritrea are primarily internal. The other party in the no-war no-peace is not sending out emigrants in anything remotely resembling Eritrea’s absolute and relative numbers. So forcing a border settlement would be tangential to the issue.

            Amde

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde-
            What I meant is that immigration is the most important issue for US when it comes to Eritrea and probably the only thing that may compel it to try something if ia and co could spin it and convince them it has to do with border issue with Ethiopia. The immigration thing is just so important to this administration they may try something, but eventually i don’t think much will change. As for prediction and bet, go big or never bet, so i predict so no ia next year this time (tideli’o emo, ezingiakin lols).
            hm

          • Amde

            Selam hm,

            I don’t know if I agree Immigration (with an I)is most important issue for the US wrt Eritrea.

            If it is, I would say, it may be the consideration of the impact of severe Emigration (with an E) out of Eritrea and the possible risks it may have for the future of Eritrea, and not for the Immigration effect it has on the US.

            I like your go big prediction tho. That might actually dislodge some things.

            Amde

          • halafi mengedi

            AMde-
            I don’t know if you know this, but Eritrea was identified as top source of asylum seekers/refugees (esp when you see the per capita numbers) to the US and this administration has actually stopped issuing any kind of non-immigrant visa for Eritreans any where in the world (no student visa, no visitor visa, no medical visa…). That is why I am saying it is top priority to US.
            hm

          • Selam Amde,

            The wars with neighboring countries and the migration of the eritrean people are the symptoms of the dia/pfdj totalitarian system. One treats the disease and not the symptoms, if one aims for a permanent cure. With dia/pfdj continuing their uncontested power, whatever one does is equivalent to bribing it, extending its life and worsening the situation. Its warmongering behavior, the open ended military service, enslavement of the eritrean people, and its policy towards ethiopia are not going to change a bit.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Horizon. Artificial sympathy that the TPLF and unionists have for the plight of Eritreans, while Ethiopia illegally occupies Eritrean and Somali land, and while it even has a higher number of migrants leaving, is just so heart-rending. With such genuine empathy, Ethiopua must at this very moment be rushing to withdraw from Badme. No? Too many slippery fish.

          • Selam FishMilk,
            Artificial sympathy or real, thanks to the regime and its supporters, eritreans, a respectable people who are in no need of anybody’s sympathy, have been made to require sympathy, wherever it may come from. There were times when we knew eritreans living in villas in addis. Today, just look where they live; in refugee camps in their hundredth of thousands; not for any other reason, but because the dictator and regime supporters chose the land over the people.

            The people simply got fed up of being used for the sake of the land, and because there remains no reason for them to stay, they are forced to leave in droves. Ethiopians are economic migrants looking for greener pasture, while eritreans are mainly refugees. Their fate has been made secondary to that of the land by the regime, even if that piece of land does not affect their lives directly in any way imaginable. Who could believe that a whole nation would be sacrificed and loses its livelihood, peace and its future for the sake of 180 sq, miles of land, which has been made a life and death matter. Let’s speak the truth, it is all about political expediency and controlling the people by the dictatorial regime.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Horizon. You say ‘There were times when we remembered Eritreans living in villas in addis’. You are conveniently forgetting that Ethiopia barbarically deported those Eritreans. And, if Badme is so insignificant as you say, why then does Ethiopia continue to illegally occupy it knowing that it is Cause Celebre for PIA to justify all his wrongdoings.

          • Selam FishMilk,
            You forget certain important points:
            – Eritreans willingly forfeited there ethiopian citizenship by voting for eritrean independence registering themselves as eritrean citizens. No other ethiopian was allowed to vote in the eritrean referendum, because it was meant for eritreans only.

            – The country they voted for as their own country started a war of aggression, and for security reasons they were deported.

            – Ethiopian constitution does not allow dual citizenship. Did dia/eplf knew the ethiopian constitution? Yes, of course, but they did not care, because they believed that they would subjugate ethiopia forever by force and have their way.

            As much as badme is concerned, you should ask how it came in to tplf hands in the first place. What i find difficult to believe is when badme is said to be the panacea for all the problems of eritrea. Nothing is going to change.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Horizon. I kindly refer you to Humans Rights Watch Report dates January 2003 on Ethiopian/Eritrean Mass Expulsions and Nationality Issue (1998-2000). Ethiopia clearly went on a barbaric witch hunt for anyone connected to Eritrea to include Ethiopians Of Eritrean heritage, foreign exchange students, those with remote ties with Eritrea, etc. They stripped all proof of Ethiopian citizenship from anyone accused by the kebele of having Eritrean origins even if it meant breaking up families. Human Rights Watch was unable to find any evidence that the Eritrean Government had taken parallel or recipricol action. What Ethiopia did to thousands of Eritreans and those accused of having connections with Eritrea back then, was simply cruel and inhuman.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,
            .
            It is amazing to me how, FishMilk, blink…and many other thinking Awatistas resort to the argument that the reason PIA is doing what he is doing is because of Badme.
            .
            In different ways and appeals they advance the theory that PIA would not have had any excuse left absent Badme issue. According to them, national service, no constitution, no everything is tied to Badme. Some of them say it knowingly in the tradition of…lemachberber.
            .
            Therefore, all the oppression and inhuman acts of PIA is indirectly the fault of Ethiopia.
            Horizon, I bet you A Billion Satoshi that if next week PIA goes insane and begins to televise 40 lashes of prisoners daily, these same people would point a finger at Ethiopia.
            It is a kind of pathological… psychological tic reaction they suffer from.
            .
            Mr. K. H

          • FishMilk

            Hi Kim Hanna. You are simply wrong . I have never argued that PIA is doing what he is doing because of Badme. Rather, I have asserted that he uses Badme to legitimize his actions. There is a big difference!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam FishMilk,
            .
            You are saying PIA…..”he uses Badme to legitimize his actions”
            .
            Would you acknowledge that if Badme is taken out of the equation it is more likely than not that he will use something else to legitimize his actions. (U.S CIA, Islamists, Agazians etc.)
            .
            So why do YOU and folks like you use the same talking points he does?
            You and Co. are legitimizing PIA’s actions.
            .
            Mr. K. H

          • Desbele

            Selam Kim,
            DIA uses “something else” for his barbaric actions as long as there are moronic people who believe it is okay to kill for “something else”

          • FishMilk

            Hi Kim Hanna. Ethiopia’s withdrawal from Badme is the right, legal and moral thing to do and one that has nothing to do with PIA. However, by taking Badme out of the equation, even ultra-nationalist Eritreans would no longer tolerate matters such as delayed constitution, open-ended national service, etc. In this regard, PIA would no longer be able to use Badme as an excuse for his actions. When it comes to Badme, it is mainly Ethiopians and unionists who wish to marginalise the importance of Badme and at the same time, to shift and confuse focus on Eritrean governance.

          • blink

            Dear KM
            I for myself, never thought Issaias will going democratic after Badme handed to Eritrea but don’t mix Issaias and Eritrea at one box . They are different. Issaias will go away and Eritrea will stay . Every Eritrean interest is for the well being of Eritreans. Issaias is dictator by nature and it has nothing to do with weyane evil plan to Eritreans. My understanding is Meles was in a mission to put his satellite government in Asmara people just like in this forum like Paulos, Amanuel Hidrat , Thomas and other people I couldn’t remember. Issaias got the green light to crush Eritreans because of Badme. He was able to crush any opposition in 2001.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam blink,
            .
            I hope you read my response to FishMilk about Badme and PIA.
            .
            In the nineties I thought Meles was a satellite of PIA.
            .
            You thought PIA was a satellite of Meles.
            .
            Let us both confess we were stupid. Come on!!!
            .
            Mr. K. H

          • saay7

            Amde:

            Your bet is that we will be exactly where we are on Eritrea-Ethiopia a year from now? That’s an easy bet to take because the odds are we won’t before I do (you know your peeps are famous for ignoring final and bending things😂) let’s clarify the bet:)

            saay

          • Amde

            Ooohhh Saay,

            I was thinking Nakfa, but you mention Bitcoin. That puts seriously respectable moolah into the bet.

            Alright.

            I claim, that a year from now (hell let’s call it May 1).. Mayday Mayday..2019.

            1. Ethiopian forces will still be guarding locations that EEBC awarded to Eritrea.
            2. That Ethiopia’s position will still be “let’s talk about the demarcation”
            3. That Eritrea’s position will still be “nothing to talk about”.

            What MIGHT be different:
            1. There could be a renewed international effort behind the scenes to see what can be done to bring this chapter to a close.

            Is that not specific enough?

            Amde

          • saay7

            Admiral Amde:

            It’s on like Donkey Kong! (Kids that was one of the hardest video games ever invented.)

            Now for my rationale as people jump in to take your money:

            1. Of the reasons you gave was that there is no constituency for the change inside Ethiopia. I put it differently: the forces for status quo (TPLF) are weakened;

            2. Unlike the European embassies (weaklings) the US embassy in Addis has been very assertive in demanding changes from the new gov (on SoE, on free press, on democratization.) I expect it to make a call for EEBC implementation.

            3. The official position of the international community (UNSC) is that Ethiopia must abide by EEBC. The US was the only one talking about dialogue etc. Even the U.N. instruments who are the most critical of the Eri gov (Commission of Inquiry, Special Rapporteur) always demand that. (they also demand the implementation of the 1997 constitution but hush now let’s not get my friend Emma upset.)

            4. Even the Isaias administration must know (they are slow but not imbeciles)* that they are unlikely to get this environment replicated (new Ethio gov, a reflexively anti-Obama prez, and a US NSA who actually knows something about EEBC, and a country (USA) presided over by a deportation-happy prez and another country (Eritrea) presided over by a guy whose motto is ትርፍ ካለበት ምን…)

            Saay

            * if I lose the bet, it is because I have once again underestimated the imbecility of the Isaias gov.

          • Amde

            Alright Your Eminence,

            The bet is 100,000 Satoshi.

            Into a Bitcoin address the winner provides.

            MayDay 2019.

            MayDay is PayDay!!

            Amde

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amde,
            .
            I want to buy 2 shares with your company on May 31, 2018.
            Why May 31, 2018?
            I just want to hear a sentence or two from PMAA to ascertain the level of priority he gives it.
            If no statement within this time period from him, meaning not on the radar, I will be in just before midnight May 31, 2018.
            .
            I now have to look up what this Satoshi is. I hope it is like the Italian Lira.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Selam Mr KH,

            If “a sentence or two” is your guideline, it may not be so revelatory. I actually expect PMAA to mention “Peace with Eritrea” in some form or another every now and then. It sounds good and such rhetoric is well within the personal brand he is building.

            But as a soldier stationed on the front for three years, and now as a PM with a very long to do list.. well..I don’t think he is going to be eager on the EEBC implementation.

            Amde

          • Alex

            Hi Saay,
            I will bet that even though it might be hard based on your analysis there is high probability some thing may happen regarding the demarcation before May 2019. Go brother Saay. I will put $100 US on you being right, since I have lots of faith on your Analysis than Amde on this issue.

          • saay7

            Thanks Alex…

            …but let’s stick to the currency we agreed upon. Based on today’s conversion rate, you are overbidding by more than 10 times the put, and this casino has a maximum limit 🙂

            saay

          • Alex

            Hi Amde,
            I always like your point of view on lot of your analysis but when it comes to the final and binding border ruling you stand on let talk first shenanigans of Ethiopia is disappointing to say the least. Personally, I don’t believe to talk to a country that doesn’t honor what it signed about anything before they honor what they signed in the first place.

          • Amde

            Selam Alex,

            I am just giving my prognosis here. I am sorry you found that disappointing.

            The war shouldn’t have happened in the first place. It was about hegemonic competition between TPLF and EPLF pure and simple. It is rather rich for either one of them to get on a high horse and claim law and the sanctity of contracts, while they routinely break many of their own laws and international principles at their convenience..

            I personally think they should talk about swaps of territory to minimize civilian disruption, draw up borders along that principle, and call it a day. Have a “neutral body” to make sure the “swaps” are not ridiculous. Rather straightforward to do I think. That way both sides save face.

            But the status quo is politically useful for both sides, so the odds of change are low.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Here is a question for you. If Ethiopia has proven to itself and to the world that it can wiggle through sans ports and do well, why would it want to change the status quo? Is there a humanitarian dimension with in the calculus if PMAA decides to make peace with Isaias? Humanitarian reasons in the sense that to help the Eritrean people if Isaias could loosen up his grip should he gets Badme back.

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            There is no compelling reason to change the status quo. That I can see anyway.

            I just think what I suggested earlier, i.e make territorial swaps under the principle of minimizing civilian disruption, while maintaining the net area size for each side, is a perfectly reasonable humanitarian resolution.

            Isayyas’ rhetoric makes it absolutely clear that he is more interested in earning political points than actually resolving the issue.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Thank you Amde.

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            Your theory seems a way out for your defense to weyane unless I don’t think you know the people in the border . In the past 20 years there is no noise from any people that say your point but since weyane did put people in to Eritreans land you kept their goal . How disappointing? What neutral body again? You guys are amusing when you ran away from truth.

            Fanti proposal to remove PFDJ by regional body was just like yours and if we add all , it becomes the talking points of Alula Solomon, Dawit brhane . Sad

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            Me defending weyane, well that is a nice joke.

            As far as I can tell, I don’t see how in principle what I am suggesting is different from what the Ethio side has been saying. If it was an Ethiopian ruse, I don’t know what Eritrea would have lost by exhausting this “ruse”.

            as far as equating this to suggesting removal of PFDJ, well what can I say – it is a tad strange.

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            I am just pocking the nice guy to say something tangible unless who can accuse Amde of defending weyane . But just to tell you the truth how many Eritreans are in the weyane camp and make your number of the people who will be disappointed about the border decision. Just saying Amde

          • Desbele

            Selam Amde,
            “ጣልያን እኮ ነው የሳለልን ፤ ምኑን ትነጋገርበታለህ” ይሉሃል። ባይቆጭ ያንገበግባል ኣለ ሓበሻ

          • Amde

            Selam Desbele,

            ቁጭት አያንገበግብም ማለት ነው?

            ወይ መንገብገብን በደንብ አልተረዳሁትም።

            To think that all these years, መንገብገቤን በትክክል ያልተገበርኩበት ሁኔታ ነው ለካ ያለው።

            Amde
            PS. One wonders if there are absolutely zero Eritrean civilians negatively affected by the border change. That can’t be right.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Amde,
            I would have taken your bet but you are starting from the wrong assumption. I am afraid I am not among the opposition forces ou mentioned—those who believe Eritreans will deal with Isaias if the Badme issue is resolved. Count me out of that and rephrase the bet description. If I lose I will make sure you are given a royal reception in keren. You can fly over Asmara. 🙂

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Saleh,

            It is weird really. It used to be said during the Badme war, “ከባድሜ መለስ; ወዮለት መለስ።”

            Well, Meles triumphed post-Badme.

            I was only listing the Eri. version has very low probability, but such a likelihood occurring would not necessarily be good for US interests in the current regional climate.

            Amde

          • Selam Amde,

            I am not going to bet with you, because i know i will lose.

            It is a fact that even as the usa criticizes the human rights situation in ethiopia, it never forgets to state that ethiopia advances usa national interest in the region.

            What the usa official most probably is going to say will not be different from the usual lip service like, ethiopia should respect the decision of the eebc, and nothing more that shows that it is actively standing with eritrea against ethiopia.

            I think that the aim of the usa administration is to bring both ethiopia and eritrea under its umbrella and not to gain the one and lose the other. The russians, turks and iranians are coming to the horn, and that i think is the reason the usa administration is trying to woo sudan and eritrea, and i believe that it will not be at the expense of the major country of the region, ethiopia. Most probably, some bribing mainly economic in nature, will be all there is to it.

          • Amde

            Selam Horizon,

            You are welcome to join me and Mr KH on getting paid by Saay.

            I agree with what you said.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            Pay attention to Mez’s massive wild card he introduced to our poker game: “the fracturing of the Republican Party” or the Trumpization of GOP. Trump loves strongmen, especially those who flatter him. All IA has to do is have a strategic interview where he praises Trump and trashes Obama (by name) next thing there will be this tweet:

            “President Isaias said very nice things about me. Very nice. He said I am a lot better than Obama. And he is African American. I would like us to get along. People don’t know [translation: I just found out] that Eritrea was the first African target of Bin Laden. Tough guys, proud. So, I would like us to get along. They have done many great things over there, tremendous things. and people don’t know this but they have the best Coral Reefs [i capitalize randomly.].Tremendous.”

            I am already planning how I will spend my winnings.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            That was funny and well quoted.

            I actually think that has some legs.

            Trump can “get” Isayyas.

            He can never “get” the love preaching Dr. Abiy (apparently he had written a religious book under a pseudonym) He is absolutely an Obama kind of man.

            But I am not worried. When was the last time coherent Trumpian policy followed Trumpian tweets? And another Trumpan trait they share, do you know there is a movie coming out titled “Everything Trump Touches Dies”? sound familiar?

            mmmmmm…. saaatoooooshiiiiiiis….

            Amde

          • saay7

            Hey Amde:

            I just thought of this. Given that all involved in this triangle–Trump, Isaias, You Guys–are impulsive people, what happens with our bet if within the next 12 months, all three reconcile AND THEN all three fight again?

            I don’t know if you are appreciating how anti-Obama and pro-strongmen Trump is. The Philipino president call Obama a harsh name and he talked casually about executing bad guys and Trump instantly fell in love with him. Meanwhile, IA likes to do things about 7 years after they are due so the stars are aligned.

            I am shopping for things to buy with 100,000 satoshis. Also have you noticed that you can’t spell it without SA and ሺ. I know, I know, we gotta upgrade our trashtalk level. Too bad it is NBA and not NFL season:) Incidentally, is Admasachn the twin of Abi?

            saay

          • Kaddis

            Selam Saay,

            If something comes out – probably in favour of Eritrea because – Eritrea has better and vocal lobbyists this time around. Plus our current FM is clueless about foreign policy/ public diplomacy ( note: unprecedented HR 128 and US Embassy harsh remark on the state of Emergency ) The FM has the worst assessment by the diplomats based in Addis; that Seyoum Mesfin (ex-FM) had to intervene and gather the diplomates to stay calm during the tense moment before new PM assignment.
            I can only mail Abay bond certificates to Saay; hard currency is hard to find here 🙂

          • saay7

            Selamat Kaddis:

            That bad huh? But he has an imposing presence so that’s something. Isn’t he an OPDO guy? Since your PM and DM are both Oromo, maybe you can send him to Ministry of Livestock or something. He did that consoling the family of the artist empathy thing after the death of Ethiopian artist Tamrat Desta, hardly the job of an FM. So maybe the Lema boys can create Ministry of Empathy and ship him there.

            You think the US embassy in Addis was harsh? I think it only appears so because they were so muted for so long. Kinda like the US consulate in Asmara now. All she does is post pictures on social media: she doesn’t even do the requisite once a year American values thing.

            saay

          • Kaddis

            Hi Saay –
            The biggest disappointment from the cabinet is keeping the FM. The biggest gain maybe is retaining the Minister of Water ( Nile file). Dr. Sileshi came from World Bank/ UN background.
            Yeah – the FM went to the singer’s leqso – it’s not even original – he was imitating Tewodros Adhanom who did it during ISIS victims, Beirut plane crash, Saudi deportation etc….and earned respect. The current one had to read a written speech with a mic for around 8 congressmen…can you imagine.
            I don’t think Worqneh is considered teamLemma and no one expects the FM position to be filled based on ethnic quotas. Eth has huge diplomatic capital since the emperors time and he is probably the worst so far.

            The US Embassy was very vocal and what matters is the precedence. They have never done it. They know Ethiopians deliver best when consulted in private; if you recall the WikiLeaks. On the other hand – the HR128 and the statement seems to be working now that the UN Human rights guys are touring for four days.

            The US Embassy was very vocal and what matters is the precedence. They have never done it. They know Ethiopians deliver best when consulted in private; if you recall the wikileaks. On the other hand – the HR128 and the statement seems to be working now that the UN Human rights guys are touring Eth for four days.

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay,
            Twin of Abi? Not at all sir, though i like his wit. You both make me laugh and I used to follow your exchanges. I would love him back on this forum despite of his ምንችክና on some of the forumers. You think I hate sports? Again, not at all. But some times the support i see looks like a religion and also እብደት ቀረሽ, which compels me to some times ask… “ገነትን ያሳያል?”

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            You underestimate yourself: you got skills! Only Abi’s twin can come up with this (if he had the patience to write more than a one-liner):

            ድርጅታችን የህዝቡን ጥያቄ በጥልቀት የገመገመበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። …እየሰራ ያለበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። …አቅዶ እየተንቀሳቀሰ ያለብት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። …ጥናቱን አጠናቅቆ ወደ ስራ እየገባ ያለበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው ብሎ መውሰድ ይቻላል። …አንዳንድ ውስንነቶች አሉ ብሎ መውሰድ ይቻላል።

            አድማስ ያቢ መንትያ መሆኑ አልቀበለም የሚልበት ግዜ ነው ሊባል ይቻላል :))

            saay

          • Admassie

            Selam Saay
            It is the time the bridge on river Tekeze ( on Gondar – Shire road) was destroyed by ሕወሓት dacades ago. In a village called ሓወዛ not so far from Tekeze, there was a respected muslim አዋቂ called አባ ሽኻችን(ነፍሳቸውን ይማርልን). People around and afar from the area used to vsit him for consultation.
            So a person from a neighboring village (noun for their wits) came to አባ ሽኻችን and asked what is etching him after the bridge was destroyed.
            ጠያቂ፡ አባ ሽኻችን?
            አባ ሽኻችን፡ ወይ የኔ ልጅ
            ጠያቂ፡ እነዚህ ሰዎች( ሕወሓት) ጀነት ይገባሉ?
            አባ ሽኻችን፡ ዋ! ይገባሉ እንጅ ልጄ ምነው አይገቡ!
            ጠያቂ፡ አይይ ፈረደብና! እሚገቡማ ከሆነ ምኑን ቅዋ (ሰላም) አገኘነው!?
            The morale is, Abi was too much for some and it might be a good ግልግል to his absence. Having his twin is going to be አይይ ፈረደብና! ምኑን ቅዋ አገኘነው!?
            Admassie A.

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            That’s a solid B joke. If you want to make it an A joke you know what you have to do. Right now it is too አበበ በሶ በላ:: The Times call for አበበ በሶ የበላበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው::

            Saay

          • Admassie

            Selam Saay

            አድንቆትህን በአክብሮት የተቀበልንበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። በነገዎቹ ወጣት ኢህአዴግዊ ካድሬዎች አነጋገር — ይሁን እንጅ ማለት ነው፤ በግምገማችን ማለት ነው፤ ከተኮላሽ A የፈረጠመ B የመርጥንበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው ብሎ መውሰድ ይቻላል።

            ለማንኛውም እናመሰግንካለን ያልንብት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። (soooo here you have it)

            አድማሴ አ/

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            I have no words.

            👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

            I see AMDE looking in all directions and slowly getting up to give you standing ovation.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hey Saay,

            How ya feelin about them satoshis buddy… looks like the Yamamoto trip is somewhere between dud and meh..

            I was going to make a comment about አድማሳችን but I see I am already late to the party.

            I do not agree on the Admassie = Abi 2.0 , but I think I have the perfect task for him. Admassie has the quintessential Welloye wit, and Welloyes claim that “ትግሬና ጎንደር ሲጣላ ወሎ ያስታርቃል” Assuming I didn’t offend Admassie by being presumptuous about him, I will propos the following..

            ክቡር አድማሳችን አንቱ ለዛ ሙሉ
            እስቲ እንማፀኖት ራስ አቢን ያባብሉ
            ቤቱ ይናፍቃል ይምጡልን ይበሉ

            Amde

          • saay7

            Admiral Amde:

            How am I feeling? I have been reading this Buzzfeed article entitled “38 products under 100,000 satoshis at amazon” and I can’t decide between the stainless steel bar and the sink caddy (to hold your sponge). In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen “winning!”

            So, this is unfair because I may have an advantage in that I am familiar with the ስቕ መሪጽና culture of EPLF/PFDJ. (This is an org that didn’t tell us about how much gold Eritrea had until it started exporting it.) What is ስቕ መሪጽና? Admas might put it as “ድርጅቱ ዝምታ የሚመርጥበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው ሊባል ይቻላል.” You have to get your clues where you can find them. One was the Yemane Gebrab (the PFDJ consigliere) address at YPFDJ conference in Sweden where he promised a time of change, peace, good neighborliness, cooperation in the Horn– very different from the usual songbook of the enemy is at the gate.

            saay

          • Amde

            Aha.. Well played Your Eminence,

            Is that Yemane Uno, or Yemane Dos?

            Now then Good Sire, you story has changed.

            Yesterday, the Trump-Isayyas Bad Boy Sympatico routine was supposed to be THE Eritrean Trump Card.

            Today, it is the decidedly un-Trumpian, but quite as decidedly Obamanian good neighborliness speech of Yemane Numero X.

            Well, I dunno.. “ስቕ መሪፅና” may mean exactly that – “We Silent ‘Cause We Got Nothin’ ”

            Bitcoin going up.. me satoshis gonna buy me some lovely…

            You know something?

            The last time I was in Axum, I had a craving for some good Hambasha. I was flabbergasted when the hotel told me they had none, and furthermore they did not know where to get one from. Can you believe it?

            So, I have decided that with my satoshi wealth, I will have either ሀምባሻ or ህብስት bread with “የሳይ መቶሺ ሳቶሺ” baked on it.

            Veeerrryyy satisfying kind of bread to break.

            Amde

            PS.. the YPFDJ speech is an interesting point.

          • saay7

            Admiral Amde:

            No no: the reason is STILL the convergence of:

            1. A strong-man loving narcissist (Trump)who delights in being the un-Obama;

            2. A strong man (Isaias) who treats deals like wine: a belief that they value with age even if they are the $2 buck chuck from Trader Joe.

            Everything else—-Post Weyane Ethiopia, the white moustached NSA, the Saudi Alliance, PFDJs isolation-fatigue, smooth-talking Yemane Gebreab (whose talk preceded Yamomoto announcement by at least 3 weeks but gives u a window to the PFDJ mindset)—- is extra. More data-point in the data, in Geek talk.

            Ah, Hmbasha. The food most responsible for the Habesha male phsyique: wiry thin with a pot belly. 🙂

            saay

          • Admassie

            ልጅ አምዴ

            ኧረ ተማፅኖም አልሻ ቢሆንማ በየቱ ዕድሌ
            ሰሰግድ ውየስ ባድር ባድርስ ውየ በምህላሌ
            ይቻል ቢሆን ባደርግኩት ታቦታትን ተሽክሜ
            አብራኩ ላይ ተድፍቼ እብራኩ ላይ ተቆልምሜ
            እለው ነበር ይቅር በለን አቤቱ ትልቅ ሰው
            ከወግህና ከለዛህ ጋር ፊትህን መልሰው
            በስላቅህ የተወጉ ንክሻህም ያመማችው
            ማምረርህን ቢጠሉ እንጅ በጨዋታህ መች ከፋቸው

            እለው ነበር

            ኧረ ተማፅኖም አልሻ ቢሆንማ በየቱ ዕድሌ
            ሰሰግድ ውየስ ባድር ባድርስ ውየ በምህላሌ

            ግና

            የጎንደሬ ራቱ ስንቅና ፀሎቱ ኩራቱ ኩራቱ
            ካፈርኩ አይመልሰኝ ሆነና ጥምቀቱ
            ምንስ ታቦት ቢቆም ምን ቢበዛ ምልጃ
            ማተቡን በጥሶ መምጣቱንስ እንጃ!

            Offended? Not at all. But a kinda ጎንደሬና ትግሬ. Before a million years ቤጌምድርና ስሜን then ሰሜን ጎንደር ወደ ትግራይ የተጠጋ now ደቡብ ትግራይ ጸግዒ ኣምሓራ ክልል።

            አድማሴ አ/

          • Amde

            ክቡር አድማሴ

            ክቡርነትዎማ እንኳን ደህና መጡ
            የማለዳ ግብዣው አዬ መጣፈጡ
            ስንኝን ማጣጣም ዳቦ እየገመጡ

            አሁን እንግዲማ ፈተና አመጡልን
            የጎንደሬ ስንቁ ኩራት ነው ከተባልን
            ተማላጅ ጎንደሬ መሆኑን እያወቅን
            ተማላጅም ያልነው ጎንደሬ ሆኖብን
            የኩራት-upmanship ነገሩ እንዳይሆን
            ያማላጅ አማላጅ መፈለግ ያለብን
            ያለበት ሁኔታ ነው እያልን እኮ ነን

            አምዴ

            PS. So weird my spell check says I have spelled the following correctly … everything else is apparently wrong
            መጡ
            እየገመጡ
            አሁን
            ተማላጅ
            ሆኖብን
            ያለብን
            ነህ

          • Selam Abrehet Yosief,

            I am intrigued by your statement and trying to understand, when you say, “In my opinion, currently decision related to foreign relations on Eritrea side is more likely controlled by the Saudis, UAE and Egypt than by the whims of Isaias.”

            What does this really mean? Are you saying that the foreign relations of eritrea is decided by the three countries you mentioned above, or do you mean something else i fail to understand?

            Eritrea as a sovereign country is supposed to be the sole owner of the right to decide its foreign relations and policy. It will be helpful if you could add a sentence or two to explain your above statement.
            Thanks.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Horizon,
            It is only my opinion. Since Eritrea is now part of a coalition, its behaviour is bound to be tempered by the others in the coalition.

        • blink

          Dear Abrhet
          The man is a sick dog ready to bite anyone with running leg . I guess you know by now I don’t like war even by million miles . Would you favor the guy if he solve the border problem between Eritrea and Ethiopia yet by the second day bomb Iran ? Guess how many lives are going to lose their live ?

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam blink,
            You make good points.

    • FishMilk

      Hi Mez. Just to mention that Yamamoto is no stranger to the Eritrean Government. He last worked at the U.S. Embassy in Asmara back in 1998. He had been left as interim head of the Embassy after Ambassador John Hicks was fired as a result of sexual abuse charges involving two female Eritrean embassy staff. At least back then, he always kind of struggled in meetings with the Eritrean Government who did not really dislike him but rather thought that he was not a real strong character. His later appointment as U.S. Ambassador to Ethiopia casts a bit of a dark light on him as far as PIA goes. However, in this instance he is simplyseen as a suitable level message delivery man; main discussions have already taken place and main points tentatively agreed upon.

      • Mez

        Dear FishMilk,

        All your messages are well taken except:

        “…level message delivery man….”

        I beg you to differ with such attitudes .

        Don’t forget PIA is a college dropout, way below anyone’s qualification–to lead a nation (Eritrea), in PEACE TIME.

        Thanks

        • Taazabi

          How about Bill Gates ? I guess he is a college dropout
          I read it somewhere…………but I think rules NASA or
          what was his corporation ? BOEING or something like
          that.

          • Mez

            Good day Taazabi,

            Yes, Bill Gates is the founder and owner of Microsoft.

            Let me add Mark Zuckenberg is also the same.

            The above two have in common:
            1) want to serve the society and make money for that,
            2) enhance quality of life,
            3) increase productivity,
            4) make peoples come together, collaborate,
            5) build bridge among peoples and communities,
            6) pay federal and state tax for what they do,

            The list goes on.

            Compare that with what PIA achieved.

            Thanks.

  • Paulos

    Selamat Moderator,

    Here is መኹዓቲ and ባዴላ. Could you please dig out my comment which seems to be buried somewhere in your “files.” Thanks much.

  • Beyan

    Greetings,
    The emotional roller coaster the article above induced in me needed a decompressing of musical kind. I found one at the right time during the weekday, and have been watching this light-hearted song with a lot of humor that helps one let loose a little. So, I’ve been saving it for sharing without violating AT policy that urges us to keep fasting on weekdays from the temptation of sharing links.

    Interestingly, there were times when several days have elapsed where I felt the link that I wanted to share wasn’t after all that important when I waited for the weekend to roll in. So, there is an upside to this policy of AT that impulsivity is curbed down. I hope this restraint will also transitions to some comments we hastily make to only regret it as to why in the world we felt it was important point to make. But, this song is one that will draw some chuckles and would tempt you to move those shoulders carelessly. And it is just a sheer-joy-inducing song and dance of Tigrinya that I have come across. In fact, seldom are those who can package a song in the way this song does. With no further ado, here it goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Syag1EJ5tc

  • FishMilk

    Hi Hope. The way that many here are jubilantly cheering on PM Abiy, makes me feel as though I have awoken and turned on CNN to find out that Hilary Clinton has been elected. I understand, for what ever reason, that there are far more Ethiopians gathering at opposition online camps, but I feel awkward and uncomfortable seeing a cheerleading crowd behind Ethiopia’s new PM, while Ethiopia continues to illegally occupy Eritrea. Do people not understand that for many Eritreans, we see Ethiopia as our enemy? This is not to brew up hate for rather it is a reality. Time for mustard sardines and crackers.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Dr. Paulos & All,

    This morning, after you alerted us about the new article, titled “ኣእምሮ ተሓለቕቲ” by Amanuel Sahle, I read it, but I promised to make some notes from it for our debate in this forum.

    ሓው አማኑኤል ሳህለ ነዛ “አእምሮ ተሓለቅቲ” ትብል ድርሰት ክጽሕፍ ዝደፋፍኦ ኩነታት: እታ ቅድሚአ ዝነበረት ድርሰቱ ዝፈጠረቶ ናይ “ተሓለቅቲ ጫውጫውታ” ኾይኑ ንዓይ ይስመዓኒ:: ከም ግምተይ እንተደአ ኾይኑውን “አእምሮ ተሓለቅቲ” ንተሓለቅቲ ጥራይ ዘይኮነትሲ ንኹላትና ብሓፈሻ ጽብቅቲ አስተምህሮውን እያ::

    ናይ ሓው አማኑኤል ዓምዲ “ሓንቲ ዓለም” ዕላማአ “ለውጢ አብ አተሓሳስባና” ንምምጻእ ዘቅነዔት እያ:: ሓው ኩሉጌዜ ንግጉይ አተሓሳስባና ንቅርዒ አውጺኡ: ንዕኡ ዝውግድ ሓድሽ አተሓሳስባ ይእምትን ከተኣታቱን ይቃለስ:: ንዕግበታት አንበብቱ መታን ከርውን: ነቲ ከተኣታትዎ ዝደሊ ሓድሽ ሓሳባት መታን ክዕንብበሉን ኸአ ድኹዒ ፍልስፍና ፈይ እንዳበለ ዘቅርብ ብሱል ጸሓፋይ ከምዝኾነ: ብኹርዓት ንኽምስክረሉ ደስ እንዳበለኒ’ዩ::

    ዝኾነ ኾይኑ: እዘን ኣብዚ ቀረባ ክልተ ድርሰታት ዝጸሓፈን: ቀጥታ ናብቲ ጸኒሓዊ ግጉይ ሕብረተሰብኣዊ አተሓሳስባ ሕብረተሰብና ዘተኮራ እየን:: እዛ ናይ ሕጂ “አእምሮ ተሓለቅቲ” ትብል እተምጽኦ መልስን ግብረመልስን ገና ብሕጂ ክንዕዘቦ እኳ እንተኾና: እታ ቀዳመይቲ ብዙሓት ካብ “ጸረ-ለውጢ ናይ አተሓሳስባ” መቃልሓት አልዒላ እያ::

    እምበአረይ ናብቲ ናይ ንጉሆ መብጸዓይ ክምለስ’ሞ ካብታ “አእምሮ ተሓለቅቲ” ትብል ድርሰቱ ገለ ቁሩብ ጥምረ-ሓሳባት ንአእምሮና ይዕንግላ ዝብለን ክጠቅስ እየ’ሞ:አብኤን ተቀራኒ አተሓሳስባ አለና ዝብሉ ብዓቅምን ብብቅዓትን ክካትዑ ይዕድም:: እተንዘቅርበን ጥቅስታት ከአ ልግዔ ሓሳባቱ ዝብለን እየን’ሞ ከምዚ ዝስዕባ እየን:-

    (A) ትንፈር እምበር ጤል እያ ዚብል ኣረኣእያ፡ ናይ ተሓለቕቲ ሕላገት እዩ::

    (B) ተሓላቒ፡ ነቲ ዝኣምነሉ ግን ከኣ ብቕንዕና ኪከራኸረሉን ኪረትዓሉን ዘይክእል ክዉንነት ወይ ስርዓት ወይ እምነት፡ ወላውን ሳየንሳውን ፍልስፍናውን ፖለቲካውን መርትዖ እንተ ኣቕሪብካሉ፡ ኪገድፎ ኣይደልን እዩ።

    (C) እቲ ኣብ ውሽጢ ናይቲ ተሓላቒ ኣእምሮ ኾይኑ ንባህርያቱ ዘንቀሳቕሶ ድራኸ፡ ኣብ ፍርህን ስግኣትን ወይ ኣብ ግትርነት ወይ ትዕቢት ወይ ንዕቀት ወይውን ኣብ ስድነት እተመርኮሰ እዩ።

    (D) ተሓላቒ፡ ንሓቂ ዘይኮነስ ነቲ ኣነነቱ እዩ ዚከላኸለሉ። ምስ ተረትዐ ድማ ይኹርን ይበኣስን። ዚበኣሰሉ ምኽንያት ድማ፡ ኩሉ ስነመጎቱ ተወዲኡ፡ ባእሲ ጥራይ ስለ ዝተርፎ እዩ።

    (E) ካብ ምስ ዕዉር ተሓላቒ ምክታዕ ዚርከብ ነገር እንተሎ፡ ረስኒ እምበር ብርሃን ኣይኮነን። ናይ ሓሶት ትኪ፡ ነቲ ናይ ሓቂ ሓዊ ስለ ዚቐትሎ፡ ካብ ዕዉራት ተሓላቕቲ፡ ቁምነገር ኣይርከብን።

    (F) ተሓላቒ፡ ንህውከት ከም ሰላም፡ ንጸሊም ከም ጻዕዳ፡ ንድንቍርና ከም ፍልጠት፡ ንሞት ከም ህይወት፡ ንባርነት ድማ ከም ናጽነት ገይሩ ንኺወስዶ ኣእምሮኡ ዘይቃወሞ።

    Regards

    • Paulos

      Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

      Many thanks for dissecting the article into talking points so that one can have an easy grasp about the overall theme.

      More often than not, people tend to listen to their inner voices instead of the person whom they are engaging with. This becomes rather rigid and problematic if the issue at play is dogmatic or structured conviction.

      Amanuel gives for an instance about his encounter with the person who was in a complete denial about Eritrea’s defeat in Badme. The guy obviously refused to accept the reality for a reason only known to him. But if the trend of denial becomes a common place to the extent of arguing as if everything is good and dandy in Eritrea when in fact the opposite is the case, one can infer something of a common reason with in the trend of denial. It seems to me, accepting the hard facts seems to those in denial tantamount to handing over victory to the enemy whomever the enemy might be. One can say the same about the recent tantrum when Sahle was pulling out the raking skeletons of the closet if you will. Sahle’s intention is not to humiliate Eritrea but lest we become ሓባእቲ ቑስሎም and ሓባእቲ ፈውሶም.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Aman,

      Thank you for reducing the material to discussable points. Those of us who grew in social and cultural milieu of our highland communities do know about dogmatic rigidities that are deeply entrenched in people’s psyche. I note Dr. Paulos has touched on this issue. There are details that express themselves in personal and group attitudes with in cultural and social frames. For instance consider these: ኒሕ፡ ከይብሉኒ ፡ ሰብኣይ ክልተ ጊዜ ኣይዛረብን. Thus, changing opinions once made becomes reason for humiliation. Understanding this needs delving in to core essence of cultural and social traditionalism; and this does not have space for logic or science.

  • Kaddis

    Dear team Awate
    Regardless of your frustration, the fact that you refrain from profiling your opponents in ethnicity and religion earn you respect. The protest movements be it in Ethiopia or Syria were disastrous in human life particularly the young. Because of the nationalist radicalisation of the youth in Ethiopia and the reckless security response could have been avoided if both parties were acting responsible. Having Awate.com as an influencer is an asset for Eritrean young.

    • Mez

      Dear Kaddis,

      “….protest movements be it in Ethiopia or Syria….”

      Does it really give sense (subject wise) equating Ethiopia with Syria?

      Please explain.

      Thanks

      • Kaddis

        Mez,
        If you go back and read during the tension prior to PM Abiy selection, you will find the Syria and Ethiopia analogy everywhere. For the right reason. The protest movements started the same but the radicalised elements started to control the movements. It’s ethnic / nationalist radicalisation in Ethiopia, I am sure you know what kind in Syria. But no one is brave enough to put it as radical unless it’s Islamic.
        In Eritrea case While there is enough frustrated youth, I see no attempt of radicalisation

        • Mez

          Dear Kaddis,

          1) I Don’t think there is any sinificant analogy in any way between the two, excrept that you observe some legitim political currents–for socioeconomic reform–across the board as it is the case in such a situation.

          2) The driving forces are fundamentally different; there is no similarity in the regional and global driving forces and their intrests. That, also from their historic perspectives.

          3) The local forces on both countries are of different origin. The dynamic is no where similar.

          4) Just being a zellious listner of major news outlets (and not seeking any educated opinion) may lead to such an apparent misjudgment.

          Thanks

        • Natom Habom

          selam Kaddis
          I laughed when you try to put the syria tragedy with ethiopia
          you must be kidding me ,
          Syria was under foreign attack masqueraded as civil war ,qatar saoudi , western country with america funded ,trained extremist around the world ,gave them weapon to destroy syria ,but syria thank to russia stood it ground with it army fight to the last for their homeland and their are about to win .
          the people of ethioipia is fighting because poverty ,land grabbing ,corruption,ethnic and religious issues ,they are fighting a bloody regime funded by US ,western country and the world bank ,a regime
          that is in service for US hegemony instead of helping it people
          the very tigray people he reperesent are now exposing that even in tigray nothing has changed for the last 27 years
          people still waiting for food help.
          stop your propaganda and stand for your peoples

  • Paulos

    Selam,

    In other news…..empowering women. Ethiopia elects the first woman Speaker of the House of Representatives–Muferiat Kamil. A remarkable milestone.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Dr. Paulos,
      Indeed, it is. It constitutes the first sprouts of democratic transition for the tenure of Dr. Abiy. It will have to be followed by assembling consensus backed and proactive coalition cabinet. This is crucial for steady work to lay down transitional task program which the country urgently needs.

      • Paulos

        Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

        I absolutely agree. Political and social threads are organic in the sense that they have a life of their own where either they grow or die and often times, they stagnate as well. The pace in either direction could be painfully slow but as they say, Rome was not built in a day.

      • Amde

        Selam Gash Ismail AA,

        So Dr. Abiy travelled to Gonder and this was in his speech,

        “የጎንደር ሕዝብ አኩርፎብሃል አትሂድ ተብዬ ነበር። ቢበዛ ቆንጥጦ ቢያስተምረኝ ነው ብየ መጥቻለሁ” ዶ/ር አብይ አህመድ

        The good doctor is trying his best to be charming. Hopefully it works, but this Welqayit thing may be a tough nut to crack.

        There is also news that the Somali clans around Dire revolted and freed people imprisoned by Abdi Illey. Of all the politicians in Ethiopia, Abdi Illey is probably the most old school local tyrant. I am not sure how it is going to pan out, but the Somali zone continues to be the spot to keep an eye on. There was apparently another attack on Moyale today and it appears he may be implicated – again.

        Amde

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Gash Amde,

          There is no doubt that Dr. Abiy is a good communicator and enjoys manners that touch his audience. I have seen this in his conversations in Mekele and other places during his continuing itinerary. Modesty and humility is highly treasured in social milieus in our part of the world, and oriental societies by and large. “ቆንጥጦ ቢያስተምረኝ ነው ብየ መጥቻለሁ” can only be said by a person who knows the mood and mindset of his audience. From experience I can fathom how might have fallen down on the minds and hearts of those who heard him say those word.

          As the to the challenges that may face him from the peripheries such as Welqait and Somali region, I anticipate he will use his skill in communication in combination with judicious policies that could address the tenuous and fragile contact areas of the relation of the concerned communities with one another as well as other communities neighboring them.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismail,

            It is so refreshing.

            I am not even sure if he can solve the issues in the periphery (at least until the next election) but he is accumulating a lot of public goodwill through rhetoric and action.

            Even if he is not successful, I’d like to think he is pointing the way to an alternative in politics.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Amde,

            A politician’s awareness of where his/her footsteps fall when interacting with, and appealing to constituencies, is a fair measure of competence in leadership. Dr. Abiy has so far demonstrated this in his approaches.

            I agree with you that the interim nature of his mandate may not empower him sufficiently to tackle the problems in the peripheries, and his role in the run up period to the next election will determine how solid his mandate shall be.

            But at this stage, I would believe that he will have done well if he could calm down passions and get the respite he needs to manifest the practical side of his vision. He should familiarize the public with his style of leadership, and to unite the competing stakeholders behind himself by impressing them that given the chance he could deliver.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Amde
          Dr abiy shows once again he is “yetilek saw lej”.
          A sharp contrast with tplfist.

          • Amde

            Selam Teodros,

            I know… whatever one thinks about his politics, he appears to be a decent classy person.

          • Mez

            Dear Teodros,

            1) Please not that PM AAA is the best possible choice for TPLF as we know this organization.

            2) Don’t get into a wrong conclusion.

            Thanks

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mez
            I was talking about his “yetilek saw lejnet”
            Which a sharp contrast from tplfist.
            Not his political views.

          • Mez

            Dear Teodros,

            Inherently, and for all practical purposes, he is in the same morass.

            Please, see first some deeds.

            Thanks

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mes
            I was talking about “yetilek saw lej” means his manner decent classy personality..
            Not if he solve the problems or not.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos,

      There is always changes in Ethiopia, no matter how small it might be.The internal dynamics is moving in the right direction to maintain the equilibrium of the social forces. A woman House Speaker is another milestone, in the higher legislative body of the nation.

      Regards

      • Paulos

        Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

        In half-empty-bottlers club, this is how the chit-chat goes, this is good news simply because, Weyane are losing ground, one says. And the other says, the elected woman is just a rubber-stamp. As it happened, Amanuel Sahle has penned yet another in-your-face kind of treatise under the heading “ኣእምሮ ተሓለቕቲ.” Sahle, if you’re reading this, please keep them coming.

        • Haile S.

          Paulos,
          I read it early morning. It is a nice piece and wake-up call written in his typical style, but the message is clear.

          • Beyan

            Selamat docatra,

            Thank you for mentioning this gem piece. I just read it. Using anecdotal tid-bits, Amanuel Sahle, dealt a serious blow to the apologists of the evil regime. Almost, the entire article has quotable quotes that a reader can easily find. Here is a paragraph from Amanuel Sahle’s “ኣእምሮ ተሓለቕቲ (The mind of apologists)” that stood out to me:
            “ኣብ ኤርትራ ሰላም እዩ ነጊሱ ዘሎ ይብሉኻ። ናይ ምንታይ ሰላም? ኣብ መቓብር እውን እኮ ሰላም ኣሎዩ፡ ትብሎም። ኣይፋልን፡ ኩሉ ሰብ ጽቡቕ ኣሎ፡ ቃሕ ዝበሎ ድማ ይገብር ኣሎ፡ ይብሉኻ። ንህዝብና ቃሕ ዚብሎ ነገር እንተሎ፡ ኣእዳውካን ኣእጋርካን ኣኪብካ ስቕ ምባል ጥራይ እዩ። እዚ ቃሕታዚ ድማ፡ ውሽጣውን ወለንታውን ቃሕታ ዘይኮነስ፡ ብምሒር ምድሃልን ግፍዕን፡ ኣብቲ ህዝቢ ብደገ መጺኡ ኣብ ኣእምሮ ዝሰረጸ ሑሙም ቃሕታ እዩ። ከምዚ ዝበለ ቃሕታ፡ ብተሓለቕትን ብተበለጽትን ተመልሚሉ እዩ ኣብቲ ኣእምሮ ህዝቢ ብፕሮፓጋንዳን ብምፍርራህን ዚስኳዕ። ኣብዚ ናይ ኣእምሮ ምልዋጥ (brain washing) መደባት፡ ምሁራን ከይተረፉ ይሳተፉ እዮም። ናዚስታዊት ጀመርመን ኣብ ወርቃዊ ደረጃኣ በጺሓ ኣብ ዝነበረትሉ ግዜ፡ ብዙሓት ምሁራትን ሊቃውንትን፡ ህዝቦም ንምትላልን ንምድንጋርን ናዚስታዊ ኣበርክቶኦም ወፊዮም እዮም። ዕዉር ተሓላቕነት፡ ምሁርን ደንቆሮን ኣይፈልን እዩ።”

            Nothing to add to this other than a million Amen!!!

            Beyan

          • Haile S.

            Selam Beyan,
            You quoted an essential part of his piece that everyone should read and re-read.

            On a lighter note: docatra? ኣይፈልጣን ነይረ። ሓደ ኣፊቱ ድ’ኣ ደብተራ ዘይትብለኒ።

          • Beyan

            Ahlan Haile S.,

            In Arabic language the plural for a doctor is docatra (Dacaatra). I was speaking with someone in that language, so that mode kicked in without me realizing it until you pointed it out, in fact. But, debtera sounds better.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Paulos,

          This is another timely piece. I think he was following the debate in this forum on his previous article. It seems a response to the cacophonous reaction on his views. What I like from Amanuel’s approach is, he does not give his personal views on the subject he wants teach without conceptual and philosophical basis. Second his simplicity on the choices of the languages he used. He is from my top watch in my radar to read him. I will try to jot out the lessons out of it in the evening for purposes of debate in this forum. He is focusing on changing the cultural attitudes of our society in a positive way. God bless him.

          Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            Awate enjoys huge audience in Ethiopia particularly with in the educated class and academics and more often than not the frequent editorials and series of articles frame opinions [Sal, where are you? It is way overdue for Al Nahda article] whereby people reflect upon them and engage in constructive debate as well.

            One would tend to think that Sahle reads the articles and follows the debate where as you have aptly put it, the latest article seems a response to some of his critics if one is comfortable enough to call them critics when they are in fact something else. House is on fire and disparage the person who calls firefighters is the sad scenario.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            Indeed there are huge Ethiopian intellectual audiences for AU both from inside and diaspora. My sources confirms your info. I am glad this website becoming an “educational institute” that we can be proud of. It is transforming from an opposition website to an educational institute. Where is Kbrom by the way? I hope he is okay.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            Sal, where are you? It is way long overdue for Al Nahda article

            ህ ህ ህ ህ ህ ክ ህ… ኣለካንዶ? ማለተይሲ: እቲ ክስታይ እንታይሽሙ ‘ንዲዩ ኮይኑ እምበር…. ኣለካንዶ? ከምኡ እንተዘይከውን: ክውንነቱ ኣይትስሕቶን::

            I hope I have clarified things now.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            እቲ ዝሃብካዮ መልሲ Crystal clear እዩ ክባሃል ይካኣል::

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            ንፁር ብርጭቆ እየ ዝብሎ ኣነ:: ብርጭቆ ኣሎ: የልቦን: ተሴሩ ኢልካ ምህውታት ኣብ ባህልታት ህዝባዊ ግንባር ልሙድ ኣይኮነን:: ግዚኡ በሊዑ ዝኸይድ ሕቶ እየ ዝብሎ ኣነ…..

            Saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Goooooood one! You should see me laughing. If Isaias is reading, he must be livid. That was supposed to be his line.

            Do you know how much I hate the “ክባሃል ይካኣል” word? It is so lame and Gimbar use it and Weyane use it too.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            …and, by extension, if ህግ and ህወሓት use it, an entire generation of Tigrinya-speakers have used it. That one and “ማለት’ዩ” which is now used for every narration “ሽዑ እንዳ ሻሂ ኼድና ማለትዩ….ድሕረ ቅሩብ ደቓይቕ ‘እንታይ ክእዘዝ’ ትብለና ማለትዩ….”

            Saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            That is actually a good point. I thought the ማለት’ዩ was kind of nervous expression where people tend to use it mostly in an audio or video interview. I say, that too is a turn off.

            The direct translation are more fun as in “How come you’re lost*” for እንታይዳ’ኣ ጠፊእኻ or more a cool one as in ዳሓር ክንርእየኩም ኢና for “Chi vediamo dopo.”

            *I have actually heard people saying that.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            Until maHmuday and Kbrom give you the definitive origin of “ማለት ‘ዩ”:

            It’s part of the world-wide phenomenon of moving from past-tense to present-tense narration. If nothing else, the linguists of EPLF were hugely influenced by global events. And the move from past-tense to present-tense narration transcended every culture every media every story telling trope. So how do you change the traditional past tense Tigrinya narration of ኸይደ መፂአ ተሲአ? You conjugate it to its present tense and add ማለትዩ ( እኸይድ ማለትዩ…ትሓትት ማለትዩ…)

            And of course, whatever EPLF did TPLF copied 😀

            Love you Fanti!

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Thanks much. That makes sense. I am sure you know of Isaac Asimov, the prolific writer including Science Fiction and close to 500 books of all kind to his credit.

            In an interview, he said, one morning his son asked him if he had taken his daily vitamin and he said, that morning got an idea what to write about and before he knew it, he wrote a full book about vitamins starting that very day.

            How about you gracing us with a full article on the genesis and cultural aspects or influences of ማለት’ዩ and other ገድሊ born expressions. What say you?

            P.S. Maybe Kibrom. Muhamuday? I don’t think so for he needs snap out of the ሓዞ ‘ኣይትሰዶ mood.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            That’s very flattering…but I am not that guy. In order of their knowledge about this subject matter (the chronicle of Revolutionary Tigrinya), I would list the following in order of personal preference:

            1. Gheteb (and not because he is a cousin but because he has photographic memory. But there is a lot of እሾኽ in that በለስ)

            2. Kbrom (I think he said he was with ELF-PLF, but he definitely kept records of all the developments after ELF-PLF was no more perched from his UNICEF office)

            3. MaHmuday (because he has a unique outsider-looking-in Insider-looking-out 360 view. I can’t prove it but I think the season of madness we were subjected to was partly triggered by his mixed feelings about AS: how come somebody so potent and fluid with Tigrinya language use it towards this end? MS: that is NOT an invitation for you to continue the ሙሰልሰል 😂)

            Me? I am just a fan. You don’t call a gal/guy from the front row to jump to the stage and perform just because s/he is applauding wildly, would you?

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            I am ok with the rest but your cuz? He will forget the subject- matter and will dive in to ህዝባዊ ግምባረይ እሳተ ጎመራ…… all the way to the end of the ሓተታ.

          • iSem

            Hi Paul and Sal:
            Some of us will be b tormented as we will keep lookuup up the words cuz Gheteb uses, some of them we will not know how to prouuce them, even I suspect Ghebeb does not know how to eithere. We will think some of the words are name of diseases. But For Sal to put Gheteb at the bottom of the list is right. I am sure he has memorized all the words, the old ones and the new ones like ምጽጋዕ. Not only words but entire sentece
            I am not sure about Kbrom but MS would tie with Gheteb
            But I would put iSem with Sal. But truth be told, I had fun when I was in high school. A friend who made it to Italy the last couple po years had reminded me how I used to make fun of ምትዕጽጻፍ by calling it ምልውዋይ and ላዕለዋይ ኢድ. He also reminded me that whenever the EPLF radio Afabet was liberated I reportedly said ታሕተዋይ ከልቢ ኮይኑ. I denied all of them except the ምልውዋይ. I rem that because there was Fihira song that had ,,,, ተዓጻጺፈ and my friends used to say ተለዋ ዊየ whenever they want to embaras me
            If Gheteb reads this he will say this: howdy wedi may Liban you are barfing ampropertiuous:-)

          • Haile S.

            Hey Guys,
            Unless you are inviting Mahmoud and Kbrom to come on the spot defensively, I thought ማለት’ዩ was directly derived from or a translation of ማለት ነው. If it had Ghedli origin, Emma would have been here to confirm. He is somewhere scratching his head like me, intrigued.

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            We must have lost you somewhere in the mix. It is not the origin per se we are inquiring about but its frequent usage where it is practically in every sentence. For intance, one would say, ሽመይ Gebre እዩ ማለት’ዩ ዝተወለድክሉ ከተማ Asmera እዩ ማለት’ዩ….and so on. As much it is becoming mainstream, how and when did its usage start?

          • Haile S.

            Hey Paul,
            It is Friday evening, I certainly had the weekday cumulative fatigue then. My best guess is it started in the 80s during the Derg’s Cadres meeting, ንቕሓት and what have you. The multiplication of explanations ማለት ነው had a big influence. I left Asmara at the turn of the 80s. Few years later I had a friend who joined me in Addis from Asmara (spent whole life there) and never said a full sentence wzout ማለት’ዩ that I thought the person was an amhara who lived longtime in Asmara.

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            That could probably be the case. As much as it is redundant, every sentence doesn’t need affirmation so to speak with ማለት’ዩ.

            Well, this is Awate where we talk about high caliber, low caliber issues including about everything, anything and nothing. But at the end of the day we learn simething!

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay,
            It goes not only to TPLF but to almost all EPRDF’s population. They do not use verbs conclusively. Their talks always ends conditional and deceivingly. ድርጅታችን የህዝቡን ጥያቄ በጥልቀት የገመገመበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። …እየሰራ ያለበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። …አቅዶ እየተንቀሳቀሰ ያለብት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። …ጥናቱን አጠናቅቆ ወደ ስራ እየገባ ያለበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው ብሎ መውሰድ ይቻላል። …አንዳንድ ውስንነቶች አሉ ብሎ መውሰድ ይቻላል።
            And “ውስንነት” is the new verb, a light weight one, substituting “ችግር”.
            It is a way of absolving one self from being responsible in case of accountability. ” እኔ ሁኔታውን ገለጽኩ እንጅ መቼ በእርግጠኛነት ሆኗል አልኩኝ”

            Admassie A.

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            That’s funny! But let me the devils advocate here. Because Amde is not here. He is celebrating something ለማና ኣሕመድ are doing or pretending to be doing 🙂

            My guess is the EPRDF is writing in Academic Amharic. Just like academic/research English is very different from spoken/colloquial English, I am guessing academic Amharic follows the rules of research language. Strip it of all emotions, present facts, present supporting evidence, and makes your conclusions as impersonal and equivocating as possible. In scientific papers, they say more research is needed. In politics they say more time (more of our uncontested rule) is needed.

            saay

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay,
            ከፋሲካ በኋላ የሰርግ ወቅት ነው። እሱን ተከትሎ ደግሞ ጫጉላ አለ። እንግዲህ የሙሽራችንና የሚዜዎቹ (ለማና አህመድ) (አምዴ) ጫጉላቸው እየቀጠለ ያለበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው ብሎ መውሰድ ይቻላል።
            Acadamic? Really? ድንቄም acadamic!
            A research paper can be disputed, disproved or improved. Therefore, conclusion may not be absolute.
            But why should “አበበ በሶ በላ” be told as “አበበ በሶ የበላበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው”? What is there to impersonal? Just present the ሌጣ fact – ” አበበ በሶ በላ”.
            I have couple of assumptions.
            1.Most late comer cadres lack self assurance in what they do and say.
            2.Most cadres whose amharic is second tongue, copy as መልካም የንግግር ዘይቤ from the ones amharic as first tongue.
            Admassie A.

          • Amde

            Selam Saay እና አድማሴ

            አምዴን መለስተኛ ተብሎ ከማይመደብ ቃር ከሚያስይዙት ዘመናዊ የቋንቋ ፈሊጦችን አቶ አድማሴ ለመተንተን ይህ ነው የማይባል ጥረት በማሳየት ላይ ያሉበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው።

            Effin’ A!!! ብሏል የድሮ አለቃዬ…

            Amde

          • Admassie

            ስላም አምዴ፡
            በቃር ብቻ ካለፈ እሰየው። Be ready for another round of new phrasing in the near future from new blood of cadres. The phrase Saay is punching, ማለት’ዩ, is also part of the Addis youth slang – ማለት ነው and
            picture these youth as the next in line and you may soon hear… በኛ አረዳድ ማለት ነው፡ የህብረተሰቡን ጥያቄዎች ለመመለስ አመራሩ ያሳየው ቁርጠኝነት ማለት ነው፡ ውስንነት እንደነበረው ያየንበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው። አየክ ድርጅታችን ማለት ነው…
            Admassie A.

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            But why should “አበበ በሶ በላ” be told as “አበበ በሶ የበላበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው”? What is there to impersonal? Just present the ሌጣ fact – ” አበበ በሶ በላ”.

            😂😂. Well: because past tense narration (አበበ በሶ በላ) is boring whereas present tense narration (የበላበት ሁኔታ ነው ያለው) is exciting: it’s like color commentary on sports. Can you imagine how boring it is to hear a sport announcer telling you what happened vs what’s happening! This very minute! Get your popcorns and headphones: present tense is happening:)

            (Actually to repeat myself: the move from past tense to present tense narration is global.)

            And ፅሁፌ የሚያልቅበት ጊዜ እየደረስን ነው

            Saay

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay,
            Unfortunately the present tense narration is not bearable with out ሞቅ ያለ ፍንጃል on my forehead.
            Admassie A.

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            Man, you are a tough customer:) I have yet another theory about the emergence of the present-tense narration but I have already given too many theories and you are not in the mood 🙂 just two words: Morgan Freeman.

            saay

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay
            ጅል ምን ብሎ አሽነፈ አሉ፡ እምቢ ብሎ። It is how we get the Morgan Freeman medal. Thanks Saay.
            Admassie A.

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            ጅል ምን እያለ ያሸንፋል? እምቢ እያለ ሊባል ይቻላል

            There, fixed it for ya!

            Hint: present tense is the preferred tense for screenplays and this its appeal. Every writer hopes his work will be a movie:)

            saay

          • Admassie

            Saay
            You took back my medal?!
            “…present tense is the preferred tense for screenplays and this its appeal. Every writer hopes his work will be a movie:)”
            So…These all words and phrase drama is ነገር በአይናችን እንዲገባ ነው!
            I got you sir! ይበል ብለናል። ይበል!
            Admassie A.

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay
            I have no idea of the NBA. Man…I am ያገር ውስጥ diaspora!
            Admassie A.

          • saay7

            Admassie:

            Bet you (let’s ask Kaddis) አገር ውስጥ ያሉ follow the NBA. When the Saudi Crown Prince was in the US, he had a wish list of people he wanted to meet and one of them is Kobe. Btw, speaking of the Saudi Crown Prince:a toy drone was flown over his palace that his security shot for 30 seconds. In social media 30 seconds became 3 minutes and toy drone became a coup.

            saay

          • Admassie

            Dear Saay,
            ጨዋታን ጨዋታ ያመጣው የለ…

            ልጅ፡ እማ እንጦጦ ላይ ቴሌስኮፕ ተተከለ!
            እናት፡ ለምን እሚሆን ልጄ?
            ልጅ፡ ሰማይን አቅርቦ የሚያሳይ
            እናት፡ ገነትን ያሳያል?
            ልጅ፡ እህ … እማ ደግሞ

            እናም አንዳንዴ፤ እንዲሁ አንዳንዴ…ነገር ነገር ሲለኝ NBA, Soccer ወዘተ ገነትን ያሳያል? ብየ እላለሁ…እንዲሁ አንዳንዴ።

            እሹ ታገኙማላችሁ እንዲል መጽሀፉ አዲስ አበቤዎች ኮቤን ሳይሆን ሮናልዲንሆን አሳይቷቸው በፌሽታ ሰንብተዋል! ተመስገን።
            Admassie A.

          • Sarah Ogbay

            Hi Paulos,
            Oh my God! I don’t think you hate it as much as I do! ‘ክበሃል ይከአል! Yak! I feel like it is a phrase used to deceive people. Especially when the guy, you know who, uses it to confuse people.
            ‘..ክስርሓሉ ጸኒሑ እዩ ክበሃል ይከአል ..’
            ‘…ነዊሕ ከድና ኢና ክበሃል ይከአል..’
            ‘… ..ኢልካ ክዝረብ ይከአል”
            over use and abuse of the word ‘ምኽአል’, a word that has positive connotation and should used wisely!

          • Paulos

            Selam Dr. Sarah,

            Tell me about it! I hate it with passion. You know, the guy is a master of the Orwellian world if you will and as you have aptly put it, it was meant to live us not only in a limbo but to deceive us as well. One wonders, if Isaias is going to answer God with ክባሃል ይካኣል to every question he is asked about his life here on Earth as in ጥዑይ ሰብ ኔረ ክባሃል ይካኣል 😂.

          • saay7

            Sarah:

            Consider this:

            You have to remember that for decades communism marketed itself as scientific truth (because Engels called Marxism scientific and Marx is synonymous with communism.). Or as our fronts called it (word-for-word of course) ሳይንሳዊ ሓቂ. And in science, as in philosophy (as opposed to propaganda), one is supposed to use very measured words and reach cautious conclusions. This is why in scientific papers, you will often see conclusions which begin with “one may say” or “it could be said” but not “it is.” And what is the Tigrinya for “it could be said”? ክበሃል ይካኣል ኢዩ::

            On the other hand, while ማለት እዪ has IMO the intent to be used as a means to change past tense to present tense for narration purposes, its negation (ማለት ኣይኮነን) is a logical fallacy used to make mild concessions to cover up humongous blunders in the league of “nobody is saying ______is an angel that Hayat used when we were discussing Meles.) I believe this is called false dichotomy: angel /no angel. The ማለት ኣይኮነን works like this:

            Suppose I accuse the GoE of torture, disappearance, enforced labor, extrajudicial death. In a seminar, a Yemane will say ጌጋታት ኣይተገብረን ማለት ኣይኮነን (it doesn’t mean mistakes were not made.) He won’t even say “we made mistakes” (active voice requires accountability/responsibility; passive voice requires nothing: stuff happened.). In here, he is shifting the topic to an imaginary accusation (you said you are perfect) and then denying the accusation (we never said we are perfect!)

            Anyway, a lot of that is standard politics 101 which is why people hate politics. But then this seeps into the vein of the language and becomes the norm.

            If this was a long and irrelevant post, well, ጌጋታት ኣይተገብረን ማለት ኣይኮነን It’s all Marx (actually Engels) fault!

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Isn’t that what Sophism is? And what you just pointed out about ክባሃል ይካኣል, it finds validity with in scientific parlance where absolute and deterministic conclusions are rare if not none existent.

            We use P-values and Confidence Interval for instance where we reject the Null-Hypothesis if the P-value is less than the parameters of the Confidence Interval and we reject the Alternative-Hypothesis if it is otherwise. The point being not only to minimize confounding factors but to minimize the influence of chances as well. Thus, we can never say–it is, instead, we say, the results suggest…..

            In politics, particularly in an Orwellian world where Double-Speak rules the day, ክባሃል ይካኣል is utilized ንባዓል ከማና ደቂ ገርሂ ልባ ንምትላል ዝተገbረ ሜላ Eዩ ክባሃል ይካኣል 😂.

          • Haile S.

            Good morning Paul,
            ኣብ ርእስኽ እየ ዘለኹ! እህም…. Is ገርሂ ልብነት a dominant gene? You are attaining perfection in self-absolving 🙂 🙂 🙂 .

          • Paulos

            Happy Saturday Hailat,

            As far back I can remember upto 2001, I cheered for Isaias and pounded my chest like an excited Gorilla with a banana on site. Little did we know that, the guy had been taking us for a bunch of fools. እንታይ’ግበር ደኒንካ ይንባዕ’እምበር.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,
            So that we don’t confuse people. I said, I am on you, referring to my close watch of your language and expression that I enjoy most. Nothing to do with ተሓላቒነት, not that you said it, but to diffuse confusion. It is much easier to talk about ourselves than about other, but feels egoist, too umblical. Just allow me to say “if you had know my deep thought about IA throughout the 90s; his yearly interviews were a mental torment for me. May be I developped immunological tolerance thereafter.
            I know you didn’t miss that I was jumping on your tigrigna expression you mentioned above, throwing the innocence on the mother who transmits the gene of innocence to the children, so to speak.
            Best

          • Sarah Ogbay

            Good morning Sal,
            Rightly said (I am not saying ክብሃል ይከአልዩ). I understand the importance of hedging in science and this ‘phrase’ is a very good Tigrigna hedging phrase. But you need hedging when you have some evidence you can fall on or base your statement on. This guy, you know who, uses it to confuse people by presenting the public with ‘on the fence’ statements.
            I think ‘ማለት እዩ/አይኮነን’ is stronger than that ‘ክብሃል ይከአልዩ’. While the former can be used to partially and vaguely admit something, as you said it also is used to turn the table on you for expecting perfection.
            Both of them are used to escape from full responsibility.
            Finally, even if your post was a long one ጌጋታት ተገይሩ ክበሃል አይከአል. See how confusing it is?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Saay Aya AdiU,

            So “dialectical materialism” and “historical materialism” are not scientific truth? Is that what you are trying to say really? I hope you will not extend your argument the insatiable economic individualism are the basis of scientific truth. At one point with the development of science and technology the natural the last stage of the five stages of social developments will the way of life of human being. All the signs and trajectory are evolutionarily towards that.✌️

            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            እንታይ ይግበር ኢልካዮ Disqus ate my comment 😞.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            Ask the moderator to pull it from the pending “waiting for moderating”. When I try to post my repy, It can not go through because pending comments are not active.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aman H.

            It seems Marx and Engels and their thoughts as embodied in their 1884 Manifesto would not retire for good as long as capitalist economics would not shed its monstrous aspects (nature) of dividing human beings on the basis of power of accumulation and distribution of wealth. Yesterday I landed in the “TheGuardian.com” on an introductory article to the Communist Manifesto by the Greek intellectual, Yanis Varoufakis: “Marx predicted our present crisis – and points the way out” which is going to be published in book form soon.

            It’s a good analysis covering the current stage of capitalism and the ownership of instruments of production, distribution and their consequences. The interesting point in there is how the former steam engine based economic productions relate to the electronics based tools that have come to also be dominated by owners of capital and how they are impacting the stakes of those who sell their know-how ranging from manual work to high professionals.

            You, and anyone interested as well, might want to go through it because its provides insight about the relationship of modern libertarianism and Marxism in the context of globalized economics concomitant social relations.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Ismailo,

            In the manifesto of technology’s effect Marx and Engels have noted this: “All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind”. What a remarkable prediction from a century and half ago.

            The author also reminded us by quoting from it: “Society as a whole,” it argues, “is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other.” To elaborate his argument he said: “As production is mechanised, and the profit margin of the machine-owners becomes our civilisation’s driving motive, society splits between non-working shareholders and non-owner wage-workers. As for the middle class, it is the dinosaur in the room, set for extinction.”

            The manifesto gives its 21st-century reader an opportunity to see through this mess and to recognise what needs to be done so that the majority can escape from discontent into new social arrangements in which “the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all”, said the author. “Even though it contains no roadmap of how to get there, the manifesto remains a source of hope not to be dismissed.”

            Dear Ismailo, what society now calls the struggle between “the haves and have not” is exactly what the manifesto has saw as the class struggle and hence “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.”

            I will encourage Saay, Amde who advocate otherwise read this link and the author tried to alarm us. Here is again the link provided by Ismailo our historian in this forum.

            https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/20/yanis-varoufakis-marx-crisis-communist-manifesto

            Regards

          • Desbele

            Hey Saay7,
            This is so funny.
            ኽቐድሓ ድዩ ወይስ ተቐዲመ ኢሉ ክገድፋ?
            Definitely HE would copy it. His message is always intended for the mass

  • Selamat Abbu Ashera NeTbi Eisran kilten,

    Too Many Punches Hamsann Selesten NeTBi snesrAAt: Page 500 reads: ‘You mean December tenth, don’t you?’ “the reporter asked.”
    ‘Yeah he said lifting his eyes.’ “December tenth.”
    ‘Then you will be away about three weeks, not six weeks.” …

    Connect four of dubs and fish milk??
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IErZLqU-YEo

    Abbu Ashera weapon X – Evolution

  • ArbaEte AAserte tShiAte neTbi Hamushte

    Selamat Buffalo Soldiers…

    Oh Captain my Captain,

    On core values the question and the reactions. The connect Four for and by the YOUNG as well as the forever young CHANGE seeking. I am HEARING voices again of the worhatk force on iLaboro and iEigth Megabit and the iMotherMayDay.

    “I went to the woods because I wish I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essentials of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear; nor did I wish to practice resignation, unless it was quite necessary. I wanted to live deep and suck the marrow of life, to live sturdily and Spartan-like as to put to rout all that was not life, to cut a broad swath and shave close, to drive life into a corner, and deduce it to its lowest terms…” HDT

    to imprison a Young lady Young man is to imprison a Young nation. iRelease iN. … “… Suck the marrow of life…” (AnguEE)

    ….
    iCore Values = Abbu AAshera Weapon X – Evolution.

    GitSAtSE

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Beyan,

    I share your frustration. When a society became submissive to its tormentor, it is very hard to pull them from that mental traps. If society hailed their tormentor as “Nisu Nehna, Nehna Nisu” the fate our people is very scary to imagine it.

    Imagine when we have two divided societies, one side who lives only on hope, with no commitment to their hopes, but Waite for change in the spirit “እዝውን ክሓልፍዩ”. The other side who chanted “ንሱ ንሕና: ንሕና ንሱ” who does not feel the pain even the misery touches their nuclear family. Imagine! Imagine! Our dilemma looks insurmountable, if you see it from these two divided stands.

    Regards

  • Ismail AA

    Dear Dr. Beyan,

    You are justified to be bitter and angry. Your conscience compels you to imagine and see the mother of your beautiful daughter or son crying every birthday like Ciham’s mother does. You can imagine, as I do, that the late grandfather of Ciham desperately wished to see his grand daughter before his last breath; or at least hear about her fate. It is hard and painful.

    Our unfortunate nation has become a land where mothers’ eyelids have rebelled and refused to collect tears, and mothers endure the plight of dry crying with words and voices only. What can make us, multitudes of Eritreans, not to be angry; every human being with conscience is angry or should be. It’s about children like Ciham and mothers like her’s enduring pain just for vindictive and vengeful reasons of a despot with calous heart.

    The predicament doubles in intensity and devastation when fellow countrymen and women refuse to be shaken by pain of children just because they believe the regime belongs to them or embodies their real or imagined interests. Many of them contribute money and resources to enable the regime to pay for its torturers and jailers. Indeed, “… the logic of this regime [and its supporters and sympathizers] has no rhyme or reason”. You have got every right to be bitter and angry.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Ismailo.

      “The predicament doubles in intensity and devastation when fellow countrymen and women refuse to be shaken by pain of children just because they believe the regime belongs to them or embodies their real or imagined interests.” Well said brother. It becomes “social ills” when they lost their humanity, or when they exchange humanity for group interest.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Beyan,
    You have a touching punching killer message right there. The Germans say: don’t throw the child with the bathwater. PFDJ has an improvised motto in action on caring for our children: save the bathwater and throw the child. It is a different regime behavior out of a devilish world.
    These days, I have nothing more to say on the nature of this regime. My interest has shifted to its supporters. How do people support such a regime? Is it because they see the worst without PFDJ than with? Is it because they are confused about the true nature of this regime? Is it because people are not inspired and motivated to stand against this monster? Is it because they have very personal and selfish interests tied up to the political life of the Pfdj group?
    what is it really that makes people still support PFDJ despite all these betrayals, failures, atrocities, lies and broken promises… and the very existential danger it the regime has exposed us to, all to leading to write off Eritrea as a state and Eritreans as stateless; and I’ve people like SemereT, Teodros Alem, Nitricc, Hope, blink etc in mind???

    • Paulos

      Selam Hayatina,

      The people you mentioned at the end of your comment have something in common. They all hate the Weyanes more than they could possibly have a heart for the Eritrean people. Perhaps, the answer to your question lies right there.

    • blink

      Dear Hayat
      Don’t you have more to worry about the next election of 2020 and the well-being of your fellow citizens? I mean you are misplacing your interest .

    • Beyan

      Kbrti Hayat Adem,

      One of the oft quoted ghedli years mantra was and continues to be this: “The camel keeps on marching, while the dogs keep on barking!” This mantra made it to the 10th top Eritrean sayings by Madote from seven years back. And number one was, ironically, Ali Abdu’s statement which went something like this, according to Madote: “1) Eritreans kneel on only two occasions: when they pray and when they shoot! – Ali Abdu
      ————————————————————————————————————————————————
      “Background Info: After Jendayi Frazer, the former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State of African Affairs under the Bush administration had threatened Eritrea’s Government and people, Eritrea’s Minster of Information, Mr. Ali Abdu, reminded the junior diplomat that if her intentions were to try to make “Eritrea kneel down in front of her,” she had better learn some basic Eritrean facts. The witty and highly intelligent Minster told the New York Times that she needs to know “Eritreans kneel on only two occasions: when they pray and when they shoot!”.

      These two are enough Kbrti Hayat to the points I wanted to make today.

      1. You said, now days, you are focusing on those who make an attempt to defend the rogue regime. I have resolved this issue, by severely ignoring them, especially, those who use pen-names, for whom I have very little respect. It is one thing when one uses a pen-name from the opposition side, completely another when one is loyal supporter of the regime. The latter is an opportunist playing it safe, because if and when this regime collapses, the fictitious person will cloak her/himself come fresh and new and blend in without any repercussions. The former I believe chooses to use a pen-name as there could be myriad of reasons for it. For example, if they openly go against the regime, family members back could be exacted with the heavy price as there are too many examples of this, the recent one of which if the young woman – Ciham. The camel and dog bit applies to those who hide behind a pseudonym to create fissure and discord among the opposition, which is why we should always say yird’akum, we will talk when you come bearing your real name and move on. Better yet, severely ignoring them is the option I choose for myself. I don’t have time for someone with a pseudonym who tries to engage me on behalf of the rogue regime. How do I know if these entities aren’t paid agents of the regime? That settles it for me. It is unfortunate that awate forum allows room for such infestation, but that is the price of freedom of speech – I guess that is the rationale by AT?

      2. My unsolicited advice to you Hayat Adem is this: Please don’t spare your fine mind on those who want to divert your attention from matters that matter the most: Using your sharp pen on the regime. This to me is the ultimate fight that we cannot afford to deviate our attention from. The aim of pseudonyms and the pen-name bearers is precisely that, to get prolific individual thinkers like you to be spent on these individuals. They can afford to get the hit on their boss’s behalf. We in the opposition cannot afford to have you and many talented Awate forumers engaging in some such discussions. So, I hope you will pay attention to the supporters less and focus on how to effect change in Eritrea.

      Respectfully,
      Beyan

      • Hope

        Selam prof beyan:

        FYI:

        This is Hope,just in case,if u don’t want to ‘waste’ your time reading one of the PFDJ Apologists since you advised the “Queen” hayat with her sharp pen,which uses a pen name,BTW…by saying:”: Please don’t spare your fine mind on those who want to divert your attention from matters that matter the most: Using your sharp pen on the regime”.

        You also quoted the correct and perfect and very truthful quote, not a mantra:

        “One of the oft quoted ghedli years mantra was and continues to be this: “The camel keeps on marching, while the dogs keep on barking!” This mantra made it to the 10th top Eritrean sayings by Madote from seven years back. And number one was, ironically, Ali Abdu’s statement which went something like this, according to Madote: “1) Eritreans kneel on only two occasions: when they pray and when they shoot! – Ali Abdu
        ————————————————————————————————————————————————
        “Background Info: After Jendayi Frazer, the former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State of African Affairs under the Bush administration had threatened Eritrea’s Government and people, Eritrea’s Minster of Information, Mr. Ali Abdu, reminded the junior diplomat that if her intentions were to try to make “Eritrea kneel down in front of her,” she had better learn some basic Eritrean facts. The witty and highly intelligent Minster told the New York Times that she needs to know “Eritreans kneel on only two occasions: when they pray and when they shoot!”.

        Just a quick clarification question:

        With all due respect, Sir:

        -Are you refuting and denying the above facts?

        -If so, are you telling Eritreans that they should kneel down/should have knelt down) to the Junior Diplomats,the likes of Jendayi Frazer and Susan Rice, who has NO clue about the Eritrean History and Justice besides torturing Eritreans by following suit their ancestors -the likes of John Dallas?

        -If so,don’t U understand that,directly or indirectly r advocating for what they have stood for?

        -Are U also advocating and admiring “Queen” Hayat, who deplored, demonized and belittled the legit Eritrean struggle and the atrocities Eritrea and Eritreans have gone through and going through?

        U also declared saying:

        ” It is unfortunate that awate forum allows room for such infestation, but that is the price of freedom of speech – I guess that is the rationale by AT?”.
        So,only the sharp minded people like Prof Beyan and Hayat Adem(a pen or fake name,FYI) should be allowed in this Forum,that should belong to all Eritreans,not just to ant-PFDJ regime people,in the world of Prof Beyan et al.

        Please clarify.

        Regards.

        • Beyan

          Dear Hope,

          First of all, the two quotes I borrowed the two sayings from, its title is: “Top 10 Greatest Eritrean Sayings”. Whether the quoted sayings are attributed from factual situations or not is immaterial if they have been lumped with “sayings” of, if you will, maxims and truisms. So, when do anecdotal verbiages become characteristics of a nation or nationals that societies bear is a question that isn’t in my capacity to answer. By the way, Ali Abdu has three quotes attributed to him. Here is number 6) “Eritrea sending weapons to Somalia is like Saudi Arabia sending Ice to Alaska.” – Ali Abdu. The third one made it as number 4) “They always say might is right but we say right is might.” – Ali Abdu

          Secondly, Hope, you seem to be sure that Hayat Adem is a pen-name. Has she actually acknowledged this as yours is too obvious to merit a discussion or to deny. I didn’t know you were one of Higdef’s apologists as you seem to inadvertently be admitting. I hope I am not putting words in your mouth as you seem to do on mine. My beef is not with the pen-name or the ideas that are espoused by them. If it seemed reasonable to me, I ignore on who wrote a piece, a commentary, and/or an opinion. I focus on the idea behind what I understand the message being conveyed. The problem I have is when someone using a penname goes on the deep end to malign individuals like Amanuel Sahle instead of arguing based on the ideas being espoused in the article as Haile S. did, for example.

          The responses that were given by Ali Abdu, for instance, were in a context of war, in a context of defending Eritrea’s position. That’s why I shared the background explanation that triggered it. So, one has to take that into consideration. Appropriating that to mean as a saying of Eritreans is disingenuous, at best irrespective of the veracity of the statement. When someone’s response is based on facts, on reasoning, and is a well thought out rejoinder, as opposed to using witticism as a one off or as one-upman-ship, then, it is only right that one takes it with a grain of salt. Now, I wonder, if Ali Abdu would stand with his statements in today’s Eritrea, not the Eritrea that he served his youth and part of his adulthood for.

          So, Hope, my take is not meant as declaration of anything. I was simply supporting Hayat Adem for the clarity with which she argues and that those arguments could best be used on attacking the main culprit in Eritrea not those who come donned to defend the indefensible. If that raises your ire, there is nothing I can do about it. I honestly don’t know Hayat Adem nor do I know for sure if it is her real name. Until she says so one way or another, I will take the name she uses to be her real name.

          Beyan

          • blink

            Dear Beyan
            Yes , yes some people knows you in person and some don’t and they don’t care about how you look , they do not after your name because name means nothing to some . My understanding about your line about Ali Abdu is this , Yes he can live in Eritrea as of today, yes he can drive his different cars and going every where . Remember in his time he was the man of the city After Issaias, he was dancing in Asmara while his father in prison, yes he can live in a good live with any one who bought his PFDJ talking points . It is not like Ali Abdu rejected the man 20 years ago . Let’s hope the other follow his rout but that’s not to say he was serving his people. Saay can write millions of Articles about him so do many but who can benefit from that ahmm yes PFDJ will benefit but don’t think people are easily managed by saying quotations from him. Ali Abdu ahmm let’s stop there because it doesn’t help Hope so do Hayat.

      • Hayat Adem

        Selamat Bayan,
        This is great. Allow me to internalize it a bit.

  • iSem

    Hi Beyan: Well said! But do not under estimate your words. Imagine if all the IAY(Isaias Afwerki Youth) said the same thing you are saying. Just imagine that. I was going to give you a link that would calm you but I remember it is not a weekend and SGJ is not in a good mood. I am acting cousin hope:-)
    The story of suffering of the Eritrean children is too painful and that is why it is infuriating to see some grown ups crying because their feeling was so hurt by an other grown up feeling nostalgic about Ethiopia. We hear about Ciham’s story because of the high profile father who left PFDj. We hear about the G-15 and that their kids were shot at because of the high profile, but there are thousands of Eritrea kids kidnapped from their homes, some of them in the dead of the night because they were suspected to leave to Ethiopia and they get arrested and taken to Nacfa, 14, 13 years olds. And there are those who are kidnapped in broad light to be taken to Sawa for endless slavery.
    And in the backdrop of all this gloom you see well-fed, well dressed, spoiled brats with men in their 60s looking on and lying through their teeth to us and they are considered the epitome of hope for the country. I am talking about YPFDJ. Our fight between PFDJ and YPFDJ is not that of adversaries, it is between an entity that is working with all its might to destroy the people, the culture, the norms, the unity and the most precious. Abrehet Y shared that she has a niece imprisoned in Nakura, for those who know this prison was only used by the Italians and the irony is while the armed struggle was waged for the purpose of dying so the future children’s will live in liberty has been betrayed. Many died, but the living are killing the living, the future of the country, maybe to make true the saying ‘a revolution feeds on its own children”.

  • Beyan

    Thank Mr. Moderator, duly noted.

    BN

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Awate Team,

    Well, when a nation’s soul becomes impaired through division and mistrust, pain becomes a fate. Some take the normal as abnormal and abnormal as normal; some do not care about evil as along as their interest is served, some do not feel the pain of others as along as they do not experience it and only hear about it from safe distance.

    There is no person with conscience who does not believe subjecting children to pain and suffering is not evil. Many of those who defend and support the regime do also have children and would do anything to protect them from harm. But whenever it is about the regime vs children of others, they are prisoners of “mengistna indiyu, “tegagiyom kea yKonu”. A nation with a healthy soul could not tolerate the outrages the regime has been committing. Anyway, thank you AT for reminding us.

    • Beyan

      Dear Ismail AA,

      There is this resigned sense of feeling that one begins to feel being injected in us all. Whatever this regime does is so beyond this world; so bizarre; so unpredictably painful to hear and watch, expressing one’s anger through the written word just doesn’t cut it anymore. I feel these words are coming out of me without having a place where they can land and make a difference. I want my words to carry some weight that can crush this cult. I want these words of mine to real fodders that can selectively eliminate these wretched soulless people who imprison children as young as seven, as old as 93 years of age. A young woman Ciham Ali Abdu snatched away at “barely 16” and “has been languishing in jail since 2012” The article reminds us by putting a number age-wise and a life-stage that should’ve been of happiness and joy, but “That child is now a young woman who transitioned from childhood to womanhood in jail.”

      A 93-old-man like Aboy Musa is taken from the comfort of his home, whose death was hastened because these maniacal beings took him to jail for speaking up about the right of his community to run its own private school that stood the test of time through the toil and labor of the community to offer education par excellence. The obscenity of this regime drains to the core of one’s being. And, we in the opposition have the audacity to talk about individual writers who express their opinions, who freakin gives a dam what someone says from the comfort of his home somewhere in the West. Who freakin gives a whit what the opinions of individuals who speak on the secondary, tertiary matters. I am guilty of this as much any Joe who participates in this medium, but until we learn to prioritize what it is we are fighting against; until we know what core-values we are trying to advance in our fight for justice, we will forever be reacting to the evil regime that tends to keep up at bay, few steps behind. This is too painful to keep saying but I for one do not know how this can be rectified.

  • Haile S.

    Dear Awate team,
    What the regime says in its official publications is at the opposite pole of what it is practicing, just limiting ourselves to the case that is counting years in prison now, Ciham’s case. The cited news regarding the seminar on children’s rights appeared on Hadas Ertra newspaper of 15th April and will appear probably tomorrow on Eritrea Profile, its english counterpart. May be updating this article and including the newspapers reference if possible with a link could be useful, just for the record. Ironically, this news comes at a week where YPFDJ events are highlighted in the same newspapers not with majority of young round chicks, but with greying hair YPFDJs, like me, salt and pepper colored hair. None of us would like our daughter pay for committed, suspected or percieved crimes of her daddio, nor the very young in prison even if they disobeyed instruction.

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Awate team,
    What sad news to hear the death of two children in prison. How cursed are we? I have nieces in prison (one of them in Nakura!) for being pentie. And I have other nieces and nephews getting ready to have fun at the Sawa Festival in the summer. Eway mergem!

    • Paulos

      Selam Abrehet,

      “…Rachel weeps for her children and refuses to be comforted…” Jeremiah 31:15.

  • Beyan

    Greetings Awatawyan,

    This is too painful of an article to pass without commenting. This is the kind of an article that puts issues in their right perspective, in an otherwise lopsided, convoluted, and obscene world of Higdef that could care less about the children under its wing in Eritrea. Ironically, Higdef sends its top propaganda machination who, with straight face, tells his disciples, brain numbed so called YPFDJ, who were born, bred, and raised by diaspora parents. These parents of the so called YPFDJ, whose moral compass is so broken beyond repair willingly allow to subject their children into a cult. Higdef is nothing less than a cult. Juxtapose all of these for a good measure, add a Nasa professional for a pastor; hey, you got yourself a perfect potion that will leave you inebriated with its purple themed colorful visual, the optics it produced subsequent to that is one that apparently mesmerizes some people into believing these will be the future leaders of Eritrea. Utter nonsense!

    A girl who committed no crime is left to grow to be a woman in PFDJ dungeon as the article mentions just because her father defected from hell that Eritrea is. Another convoluted world of PFDJ is that the news we’ve heard it released, get this, on a commemoration day of prisoners (April 14th, 2018), some one hundred children it apprehended at a funeral procession of a 93 year-old-hero whose death was solely caused by the regime. But, we hear that it is also now bringing fresh young children into that revolving door of its dungeons. Do you find this confusing, well, you should, because nothing this regime does makes any sense. Whatever you do though, please don’t be compelled to defend its actions, because you will never be able to do it with reason, nor on moral ground, or humanitarian ones; neither would you be able to justify it on political ground. There just is no ground left for this regime that it didn’t squander. The only place it will go from here is to that bottomless abyss.

    Beyan