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Eritreans in Ethiopia Fear for Their Safety

Several Eritrean opposition members who live in Ethiopia have been facing harassment and fear since the Ethiopian Civil wars intensified.

Some members whose organizations had varying degree of presence in Ethiopia. However, since Isaias Afwerki and Abiy Ahmed made a pact in in July 2018, they have been living in precarious situation. Since then, Eritrean intelligence operatives have been working in tandem with the Ethiopian intelligence units and spreading fear and anxiety to the opposition of Isaias Afwerki’s government.

Since the start of the war in Ethiopia, the country’s security forces have arrested a  few member of the Eritrean opposition on vague accusations. They stayed behind bars for three weeks. They were released after the Ethiopian courts acquitted them. However, the security forces didn’t respect the court ruling and arrested them again only to release them after two more weeks.

While all the members who lived in Addis Ababa are accounted for, the whereabout of a few others who lived in Tigrai  are unknown.

In addition to the risk on their life, “they are in dire financial situation, particularly those who have families and children. Their colleagues who regularly visited Ethiopia used to provide them with some help until the situation in Ethiopia deteriorated and diaspora opposition members do not travel to Ethiopia anymore.

A leader of an opposition organization said, “we are appealing to the Ethiopian government to guarantee the safety of our members since their living conditions are life threatening.”  He added, “The UNHCR that has a presence in Ethiopia is aware of the situation of the individuals who need emergent protection.

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Eritrean Refugees at Risk as Connection to Tigray Is Blocked (Jan 26, 2021)
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  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Photo now circulating on the net of an ‘Eritrean’ soldier withdrawing money from his Ethiopian Commercial Bank account in Tigray. Could this be the proof that the U.S. is looking for to support their case with the U.N. Security Council? Or maybe they want to refer to recent (past week) court transcripts involving TPLF thugs wherein they have admitted to traveling under fake Eritrean ID (including refugee) to provide cover. Seems that everyone but the U.S. and Eritrean opposition members who are TPLF corrupted seem to know that Almeda Textile Factory in Tigray had for 2 years been cloning/producing Eritrean military clothing.

  • Mez

    Good day all,
    The TPLF-ignited war is now passing the fourth month mark of fighting. At the beginning of this conflict tplf was up-beating, to winn the war. Now it looks that their war machine is effectively degraded.
    The next immediate question may be how the propaganda, diplomatic, and political “war of attrition” would proceed in the comming weeks and months and how it would play-out next.
    Few observations:
    1) the alliance between pmaa and pia, (also of somalia president ) is holding well. 1.1) pia had substantially achieved what he wated (with astonishingly minimal war cost for him): recovering of Occupied Eritrean Land, and degrading (substantial removal) of tplf’s war machinary. 1.2) The Amhara Fano Militia–substantial contribution– to destroy tplf’s war machine and “super-ethno-nationalism”; in the ” proper-Tigray” and Kafta Humera, Welkayit, Tsegede, Tselemt of Northeren Gonder; Raya, Alamata of Northern Wello (Annexed forcefully by tplf towards the State of Tigray, since 1991 European calander). 1.2.1) Eventhough there are lots of talks about the Fano’s fighrets presence in Tigray, one have to take a note that they are primarily present in the above discussed regions, (and not in the territories where there is an overall consensus as “proper Tigray”)–unless they were explicitely requested by the provisional Tigray State!
    2) it looks that the conflict is entering from an active war engagement state towards the creation of a framgwork to manage and minimize the conflict in a commonly agreable political way by all actors, depending on what they offer and how “useful idiots” they are for the US–and also for the regional players (one has to take a note that thems are heading towards the Security Councel in New York). 2.1) for PIA, he achieved his’s main military) goals as discussed above and even if tplf survive as a political actor (at a regional level) this may not be an issue for PIA or Eritrea if he is going to get a reasonable reward/incentive to do so. 2.2) for Amhara Fano’s they have regained their forcefully annexed population and territory, they mostlikely will be more than happy if they are left alone with their reunited people; and also get an financial/infrstructure construction incentive to ecoomically awaken the region from the fifty yers pepetual war. 2.3) interestingly, it seems that pmaa (is ambivalent with a lots of things) will be happy to leave TPLF’s Tigray as it is (requesting the withdrawal of Amhara Fano from the areas discussed in 1.2 above, thereby contradicting with the Amhara community).
    3) the tplf propaganda main stay moved decisively from “we will win this war” and “can do everything in Ethiopia” to “human rights violations in Tigray by Eritrean, Amhara fighrers, and Ethiopian Army”–thereby day and night begging the global powers (especially the US) to intervene “in what ever form”. 3.1) the other war dimention is the tplf’s perpetual accusations that the Ethiopian government is using hunger to “starve Tigrian’s to death”; (while tplf itself is trying to whitewash that this hunger and potential recurrence of famine was there in tigray all the past thirty years–while they were in absolute power of the politics, economy,… in the country–and tplf did nothing to decisively and structurally remove such a hunger and famine danger from the Tiray Regional State while tplf in power).
    4) now in the past few weeks the Biden Administration in the US had shown an interest in this conflict, and is entering the discussion from the perspective of hunger, human rights violations, independent investgation of the the conflict-evolution; thereby it demanded the removal of combatants (especially Eritrean, and Amhara Fano militia) from Tigray. As one could imagine–from a global power perspective, the US will generally be happy as far as China, Russia and to lesser extent the EU–are pushed back in multiple dimensions–from the horn of Africa; and this current situation in Ethiopia is a rare opportunity for geopolititians around the new Biden Administration.
    5) All things taken together, Tigray (as a political entity) also is getting a modern-time chance to recalibrate itself; develop an adoptive policy to address the pepetual: i) enemity with Eritrea and Amhara (and discard the abay tigray manifesto), ii) food shortage and cyclic famine, and iii) the state of tigray be a net food/industrial products exporter in the mid-term (job creation for the young, and giving them perspective for life).
    5.1) The TPLF’s agenda of Abay Tigray is decisively damed, and will not be easy to repair–since that will not be possible without the territories of Amhara, and Eritrea.

    thanks

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mez,

      “ pia had substantially achieved what he wated (with astonishingly minimal war cost for him.”

      The above quoted statement become point of interest for me from the rest of your comment. Let me ask you on this phrase part of your statement that says “astonishingly minimal war cost”

      First, you sound you are privy on the war statistics (the lives lost, the finance and materials incurred for the war). If you don’t have the figure you couldn’t say “minimal cost.” Minimal cost is a measurement and a scaling if you are aware about it.

      Second, could you tell us what the “minimal cost” we endure in the ethnic war of Ethiopia.

      Third, what is the number of “lives lost” is minimal to you from the war outcome? Is it 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000….or more, or any number in between?

      If you are unable to answer these questions, then you are not serious man talking on the issue.

      Regards

      • Mez

        Dear Amanuel H,

        Quick answers: 1) sure I know what I am talking about “astonishingly minimal war cost”: just benchmark the 1998-2000 boarder war between Eritrea and Ethiopia; as a reference.

        2) your mention of “ethnic war” seems to emancipate from “your and mine” divergent view of this war; nothing we could do just cohabitate.

        3) regarding your last paragraph: what else could anyone say? I can’t imagine your last comment is serious: you being leftist and a “born and principled anti imperialist “. Comeon Amanuel.

        Thanks

        • Peace!

          Hi Mez,

          I think you know Emma and his records in this forum. He has been consistently advocating for TPLF agendas and ignoring its entire crimes for the last thirty years. When TPLF invaded Somalia and wrecked havoc in the country, he didn’t even mention the war let alone to advocate for well being of civilians. He has never criticized TPLF even for the crimes they themselves apologized. And this time, he’s found an initiatives that fits his narrative. We all know, the US is looking after its own interest in the region nothing else.

          Peace!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mez,

          I didn’t know that you are from the insiders. Now I know how to handle you. Back to your points:

          1 – if your benchmark is the 1998-2000 border war, then it means we lost less than 20,000 ( unverified figures though the PFDJ government claims that number). From your hint let us say 10,000 or 5,000….or more or less than that, then is it worth to pay those Eritrean lives in the Ethiopian ethnic war that has nothing to do with the interest of the Eritrean people?

          2 – I am not only who characterized the war as “ethnic war” but the entire international community. Only PFDJ and supporters denies the nature of the war.

          3 – “ born and principled anti-imperialist.” No! I was born and raised as apolitical kid who was thirty of education until my middle age. So you are wrong. Politics has slowly came to my life when I was recruited by one of our fronts. Am I a leftist? Yes, I am a social- democrat by principle, like the European social democrats.

          So now, I still insist you that if you are a serious person about the issue tell us the figure. Don’t come with this awkward statement, if you can you couldn’t quantify the exact number of souls we give to this senseless war.

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            Short replies as far as they last:

            i) On your 1) and last sentence; there is no such a science called “exact number”. Every thing is fuzzy and approximate–as far as any science leaning statement is concerned. So I adher to that.

            ii) on your number 2) I expect political thoughts, and policy lines in the future have to give their way towards liberty, fraternity, and equality. Just please please forget partisian pfdj here non pfdj there; and think how to move on.

            iii) regarding your 3) you are right political maturity would come with age. “Social Democrat like Europeans”? That is fantastic. But I am curious if you are the subscriber of Willy Brandt’s or Gregor Florian Gysi’s school of thoughts.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            1 – You told us that you privy to the info and know surely the “minimal loss of Eritrean lives”. When asked what is our loss exactly, you start shrugging inconveniently. But …but, are you telling me “war casualties” can not be quantified? You can’t kid me. I am holding you by your tail, that either you withdraw your statement or come up with your number. You can’t deceive people in “awate nation.”

            2 – At this point of time, no one able to know the info you brought up here – the “minimal loss of lives” other than the insiders, and as such only the top trustees of the organization.

            3 – Yes I am from the subscribes of “SD” school of thoughts, whose philosophy are based on “fairness, equality, fraternity, justice, and caring to the poor.

            Regard

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ክገብር ዝደሊ ነብሰ-ቕትለት
    ናይ ርእሰ-ደብሪ ቃለ-መሕተት
    ይስማዕ ስጋዕ መወዳእታ
    ዝብል ክተት
    ዶ ዋላ ንበሎ ከርተት?

    ‘ንታይ ዝዓብስ
    ካብ ፓላሶ ወይ ድማ ቢንቶ
    ናይ ኣርማንዶ ናይ ቪላቶ
    ምዝላል ገዲፉ
    ገዛ ዓዲ-ሃሎ ይእቶ!

    መልሲ ከይሰመዐ
    ነቲ ባዕሉ
    ዝጸሓፎ ሕቶ
    ኣምብሬዛ መትከኽ
    ደሓን ኣይትእቶ
    ክንዲ ንስኻ ትብቆጽ
    የሕሊፍካዮም ንበዓል
    ቢቲቢቶ

    ናይ መን መርገም ዩ ወሪድዋ ኤረትራ በጃኻ?

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. TPLF sympathizers will do all in their power to internationalize matters in regards to Tigray region, in large part, with the aim of creating havoc with upcoming Ethiopian election process. At the same time, with both China and Russia trying to establish firmer footing on the Red Sea (i.e. Pt. Sudan & Assab), a very worried U.S., desperate to reassert influence in the region, is taking the matter of Tigray through front doors, back doors and side doors of the U.N. Security Council. The U.S. which will soon take the leadership helm of the U.N. SC, obviously will use it a vehicle for greater U.S. influence on the HOA and Red Sea – Gulf of Eden corridor.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ሓራዲ ቆራጺ
    ኣብ ክንዲ ዕንጨይቲ
    ናይ ንጹሃን የዓጽምቲ
    ፈላጺ

    ናብ ንቡር ክምለስ ‘ዩ ኢሎም ዝሓስቡ
    ኣብ ናይ ዓልምና ህዋ ዘይነብሩ
    ብሕልሚ ኣብ ዘይክውንነት ዘንሳፍፉ
    ኣብ መዓልቶም ከም ሰቦም
    ይቕዘፉ
    ምሁራት ‘ና ምባል ደኣሞ
    ‘ንታይ ዩትርፉ?

    ከምቶም ሰብ ግዜ መንካዕ
    ብዘይከውን እምነት
    ብኢድ ብጾቶም
    ናብ ዓዲ ኩላትና ይሓልፉ
    ብላሽ
    ንቶኽላ ምእማን ንሱ ‘ዩ ትርፉ

    ኣኽራርምትኻ ጫሕ ኣቢልካ ዶ ት ስሕቕ ኣሎኽ ኢሳያስ ሓቀይ?
    ተረገም

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas
    Aljazeera is now reporting from Tigray, Ethiopia. Just visit today’s news March 01, 2021 in its website
    Trauma, anger as Tigrayans recount Eritrea troops’ ‘grave crimes’
    Survivors and witnesses in Ethiopia’s embattled region tell Al Jazeera how civilians were raped and killed by troops from neighbouring country.

    • Berhe Y

      Selam Berhan,

      I just saw a clip from Al Jazeera which I think is the same one you are referring. It’s really sad to see the pain and the suffering of the people. And they clearly blaming the Eritrean soldiers.

      Question:
      Is there a pressure on the Ethiopian government to force / ask the Eritrean military to leave? Wouldn’t that be where the campaign should be directed and it will probably provide better outcome.

      Eritrean government should withdraw will go into deaf ears and will not result anything.

      On the other hand, Abiy is celebrating Adwa victory…..

      Berhe

      • Abi

        Hawna Berhe
        It should be a mandatory to celebrate Adwa throughout Black Africa.

        What is your problem if Abiy celebrates Adwa?

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Abiy,

          Long time. No there is nothing wrong to celebrate Adwa. But if the people of Adwa today are suffering, then their suffering should be the priority at the same time.

          On your opinion what do you think is happening? Where is the stand of the Ethiopian government in the accusation and what measures have taken to alleviate the suffering of the people.

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Adwa is an Ethiopian victory against የጥልያን ሶላቶ and its mercenaries.
            The people of Adwa are freed from their tormentors thanks to የአማራ ልዩ ኃይል and the federal army.

            The accusations are a last ditch effort by the late Tplf thugs. Nothing more than that.
            I don’t believe the disciplined Eritrean army will do anything remotely similar to the actions they are accused for. Isuye will never allow anything that complicates the relationship between the two countries.
            አማሮች እየራባቸው የሚያበሉ
            እየበረዳቸው የሚያለብሱ ሩህሩሆች ናቸው:: በእንዲህ ያለ ወንጀል አይጠረጠሩም::
            በስመአብ!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            We all know the Amara people are very nice..”እየበረዳቸው የሚያለብሱ ሩህሩሆች ናቸው:” I am first hand who experienced this. But the problem were the leaders. And what do you know the Eritrean army now? The forces are under IA and IA is not happy to see united Ethiopia from the beginning since the two fought in 1998.

            And the story goes 125 years back ..”Adwa” story and do you know that the land was In Tigray..Now Dr. Aby has came and want be king of like Emye Minilk and destroyed Tigray.. the story of that king of Ethiopia was a time bomb for the entire horn when he agree to to give Eritrea to Italians..Then the Eritrean people said if Ethiopia is not interested about us, why we should care about being Ethiopians and fought hard and fought strongly till they got freedom.

            The same will materialized to Tigray people. And don’t hope to be with them any more.They are sure going to make free the land and people. All have witnessed the crime of all those PFDJ military and Amhara people …and sure they will agree to let the free for good.

            So, now the Tigrai people are saying Ethiopians are don’t deserve to celebrate the day of Adwa..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮብዬ
            Adwa is a place where Ethiopian heroes are heroines taught the ጥልያን ሶላቶ not to mess with tigers.
            አድዋ የኢትዮጵያ እንጂ የትግራይ አይደለም::
            Isuye, the visionary leader of Eritrea, is working day and night for United Ethiopia.
            የትግራይ ሕዝብ ከቀሩት ኢትዮጵያውያን ጋር ተግባብቼና ተከባብሬ መኖር አልፈልግም ካለ መንገዱን ጨርቅ ያድርግላቸው::
            ቅርንጫፍ ግንዱን አይሸከምም:: ግንዱ ነው ቅርንጫፉን የሚሸከመው::

          • Brhan

            Hello Abi,
            So you are saying that Tigray people can go away from Ethiopia if they want to. Does it mean Tigray-Adwa or including Adwa? That is why I advise not to contradict yourself. It is as if you are playing for a soccer team and scoring in your own team.
            Take care

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Let me make it a little bit brighter for you.
            If Tigray people choose to leave the union, they can leave with Adwa አውራጃ with them. The history and the heroic deeds of Ethiopians will live with us ክርስቶስ ተመልሶ እስኪመጣ ድረስ::
            አድዋ ማስፈራሪያም መያዣም አይሆንም::
            Own goal is not my thing:)

          • Brhan

            Abi , take it easy, you are known @ awate by your humour.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            You take it easy on bringing all the manufactured news.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Again you are contradicting with the A. Ahmed Ali gov’t which allowed Aljazeera to go to Tigray and provide the report. I believe the gov’t is in love with Aljzeera which has become the first news agency to go there after 4 months of blackout.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Brhan,

            Any bad news for “Abiy Ahmed” even from the internationally respect news outlet, it is fake news for Abi. And yet Abi can not go to work without reading NYT, WP while having morning coffee. Now seven international news media are allowed to go to the conflict areas of the Tigray region that includes NYT, BBC,Reuters, Aljazeera. Abi has to plea to Abiy Ahmed to disallow them. He might want to see the wish of the former general of Derg, who said we can erase the six million Tigrians from the face of the earth. So the roots of hate is going deeper and deeper until they could not able to do anything about it. I don’t think tigray will not stay within the loop of Ethiopian administration.

            Second, the international community are more concerned about the unity of Ethiopia than the leaders of Ethiopia. They came to know that Abiy Ahmed has no the capacity to hold Ethiopia intact. They knew that he is showman laced with lies – a man who admires despotic autocrats – and found him that he is not a man to deal with the west. Watch the evolution to the understanding of the man by the west. Their hope on him is eroding so quickly and are exerting pressures on him and his government.

            Regards

          • Brhan

            ሰላም ፕሮፈሰር ኣማኑኤል
            ጽልኢ ሰብ ዝተጎልበበ ሰብ ንሓቂ ክጸልእ ይቐሎ፡

          • no one

            Selamt Brhan,

            Amharas are always contradicting. Ethiopia never colonized but Eritrea is part of Ethiopia, We win this and that war JEGNOCH ABATOCHACHEN but always there is support even the war with somalia there was support of Cuba and to Eritrea support of Soviet Unien. What I am talking is not a weopen support but personal.
            And now they are saying we bring back our land WELKAYT and RAYA with our fist even if they go to in Tigray on the back of HEGDEF and EDF. They have tried the last three year but no success. All Amhare elite opposees withdrawal of HEGDEF because they know what is coming next.

          • Abi

            Hello no one
            no one is coming.
            Welkayt and Raya are back to their rightful owners, the mighty Amharas!!!!!!!
            Now, if you don’t want to live with other Ethiopians as equals, you can always leave Ethiopia.
            No one is losing sleep if you decide to leave.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi No one / Berhan,

            Abi is confused like most Ethiopian elites were and still are.

            The other day I was watching what looks like a televised debate of young four students in America, which I think it was in the 50s. They were four of them.

            1) Nigerian male
            2) Gold Coast female (Today’s Ghana)
            3) White South African female
            4) Ethiopian male

            They were asked who they are and what race they feel and represent.

            The Ethiopian guy response was the must funny one (if it can only such thinking had a profound disaster to the lives of so many).

            He said “they are not black and they are not white” and they are prejudice towards white and black people.

            When he was asked, he needs to find his place by the Nigerian guy he said.

            “We are the lost tribe of Israel and we are only dark because of “sun” I suppose didn’t hear well why”.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,
            Sometimes he has to swallow the bitter truth other wise ፡ምክረው ምክረው እምቢ ካለ መከራው ይምከረው

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I tried to forwarded your message to the Tplf junta. It came back to me with a bold message “ subject deceased “.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Your comment, as usual is contradictory. That is your habit. You send a message to the “dead ” and not to the living?

            Here is an example of a constructive comment:

            Secretary of state Blinken send a message for the second time to the living PM A. Ahmed Ali, today, March 03, 2021.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት
            ኢሳያስ ዱወ
            ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ዚሮ
            ከዳዕ ለኽባጥ ምዃኑ ኣይተሳእነን
            ዝሕብሮ
            ከምዝኾነ ሃገራዊ መንሽሮ

            የግዳስ
            ሸለልትነት ድንቁርና
            ኣብ ሃገርና ምስ ሳዕረረ
            ከምዝባ ከምዚ ኴና
            ክብል ህዝቢ ምስ ዓፈረ
            ብድኽመቱ ሓፈረ
            ፋይዳ ዘይብሉ ተማረረ
            ትሩፋ!
            በኻ ምባል ውጽኢቱ ዕረ
            ቤላ-በለው ምስ ሳዕረረ
            ዘይቅዱስ ውጥን ዲያብሎስ
            ኣድ ሓሎ ሰዓረ

            ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ግን
            ስጋዕ ሕጂ ዘየስተውዓለ
            ዘይተማህረ
            ከምዚ ሓንጎል ሒዝካ
            ከመይሉ ክዕረ?
            ብርሃን
            ከመይሉ ‘ዩ ክጠሓን
            እኽሊ ብዘይመጥሓን?

            Preach brother!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Before you blink, Blinken will send another message to PM A. Ahmed Ali.
            Do you know what he said in his blinking message? Did he DEMAND the አማራ ልዩ ኃይል and the Eritrean army to leave Tigray? He must be out of his blinking mind. The Mighty Amharas are staying in Gonder and Wollo regions only. They are the rightful owners of these places. I rather would like to see Tigray separated from Ethiopia than returning an inch of land back to Tigray region. We should not reward thievery. The same applies to Badime. I have been saying that Ethiopia should return Badime back to Eritrea. Badime was stolen from Eritrea. It should be returned to the rightful owners. Eritrean army has a full right staying at Badime.
            In case you forgot, it was the pseudo-democrats who approved the ሞቶ በሞቶ ወያኔ elections. Looks like Mr Blinker is staying on the same lane although his blinker is on and his GPS is telling him to make a safe U-Turn.
            He is fast approaching a DEAD END.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            So you are saying the Oromo have been ok to kick the Amhara ( who are now IDP) from their lands or you want to reverse that. Very contradicting.
            N/B IDP = Internally Displaced Persons

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi,

            TPLF and tigray elite’s and tigrai’s issues are complex and difficult to solve. The solution lies largely on them, the tigraians.

            – Ethiopia and Eritrea were formed at the end of the 19th century as we now know them (Menelik didn’t let Italy to incorporate Tigray). This is what ended to be finally settled and accepted in 1991 following the 30 years war.

            – TPLF accepted the settlement, but wanted to shape its state with its own image of tigray (tigray of before the end of the 19th century). And it succeeded in doing that, with the agreement of the coalition it formed (EPRDF). On the way, this ambitious design transgressed Eritrean territory. The ambition and transgression was also well entertained and inculcated in the tigraians mentality and pride, thus the Agazian movement, tigrai-tigrigni and what have you that spilled into Eritrea.

            – The imagined tigray of 19th or 18th century has ambition, but no basis, at least not the way tigray elites present it. To establish basis, tigray intellectuals went to dig in history and historical maps. They came up with a map made by a portugese of the 17th century, Manuel Barradas. Despite many other maps of the area exist since the 15th century, he is the only one they cite because they feel the map he made goes along their ambition. They pasted his completely out of scale map into the modern map of the region to increase legibility of the territories they claim tigray.

            – Tigray leaders and elites need to come to term with the situation that resulted in the formation of Eritrea and Ethiopia. They are part and parcel of Ethiopia that they defended together with their compatriots. There was no country called tigrai at that time with defined territories that resembles the Ethno-linguistic territory that they curved after 1991. Precisely, it is the Ethno-linguistic division and history of the region that is not conform with reality they claim real.

            Abi, don’t blame me for talking Ethiopiques. While talking about Ethiopia, I am also talking fully about Eritrea because the northern Ethiopian issue has been the headache of Eritrea for the last 30 years, in addition to IA who also contributed in the implementation of the TPLF’s design and created his own administrative design that has kept Eritreans at bay and regressing. My (rare😁) and others reflexive detour of discussions from Eritrean to Ethiopian affaires and vice versa demonstrate the dizygotic nature of the two countries. Eritrea and Ethiopia are fraternal twins reborn at the same time at the end of the 19th century. That should be the basis of this twin countries relationships.

            P.S. while just finishing this comment, I saw ሞክሼ back at Awate. Welcome Haile TG! It was the longest quarantine I have ever seen😁.

          • Abi

            ሊቀመኳስ
            You said it beautifully. I hope and pray Tigray elites humble themselves and live as equals. This grabbing land from every corner brought only misery to the people.
            Now that Tplf, Agazians, የታላቋ ትግራይ ቅዠት are dead and buried, it is time for peace and development in the whole region.
            መምህር ብዬ ስጠራህ ክብርና ኩራት ይሰማኛል::

            እንዳስተዋልከው ታላቁ ኃይለ ድንገት ተከስቷል:: መቼም የእሱ ነገር እንደ ክርስቶስ መምጫው አይታወቅም:: ተዘጋጅቶ መጠበቅ ነው የሚበጀው::

      • Brhan

        Selam Berhe,
        ርእሲ ምርኻሲ ንብርሃኑ ጁላ ኣብዘየእትወካ ነገር ኢድካ ኣይትእቶ ኢልዎ ክብሃል ኣይሰማዕካን ዲኻ

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Berhan,

          I am not all immersed in the current conflict, as it seems there is no end. It’s Black history month and I was talking to a foreigner who tried Ethiopian food for the first time. She was totally fascinated and she wanted to learn about the food and the spices.

          So I send her the link of Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown: Ethiopia video. I had seen it when it done but I ended up watching it again.

          I just wow, how far back in time they have travelled listening and watching the video.

          It made me realized this IA person had never lived in peace, without enemies his entire existence starting from 1965, no more than 2 years.

          1965-1970 with ELF
          1970 – 1981 with ELF / Derg
          1981-1981 – with Derg
          *1991-1993 – relative peace but hunting enemies/ opposition
          1993-1996 – Sudan / Turabi
          1996 – 1997 – Yemen / Hanish
          1998 – 2000 – Ethiopia / TPLF
          2000 – 2003 – Eritrean political leaders / Journalists
          2000-2005 – University students / Opposition / religious leaders
          2005-2009 – UNMEE / EPRDF /US
          2009 – 2015 – UN/SC/ Sanctions
          2015-2018 – Yemen conflict / SA/UAE
          * 2018 -2020 – Honeymoon with Abiy
          2020- present – War / TPLF

          Now he brought misery to Ethiopia as well.

          Ethiopian one day will ask, was it worth it? When the money dry up, the credit worthiness falls, (Abiy understanding of the credit / Debit system is really shocking, when I saw the clip what he said about western credit system), and the cost of borrowing goes up…

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            You said,” Ethiopian one day will ask, was it worth it ?”
            In case you haven’t paid enough attention, Isu was the one who gave cover and armed the North command when attacked by the የእናት ጡት ነካሽ የቀን ጅቦች::
            Was it worth it? Not a smart question from a person who is one of Awate’s finest.

            Isu saved the day!!!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            The Tigray I believe they have embraced Abiy like other Ethiopians with his hopeful message of love and peace.

            Making peace with Eritrea / Isayas was the right approach but it should be limited at that.

            I don’t think making peace with Eritrea should have turned, making war with TPLF.

            You know I am critical to TPLF but Abiy could have used, his wide popular support to make effective change that would neutralize TPLF influence without going to civil war.

            In short instead of changing Isayas to become like Abiy, Isayas changed Abit to become like Isayas.

            If this continues, Ethiopia will turn to Isayas Eritrea.

            Fitchi have down graded Ethiopia credit rating to CCC from B1 and moody abs S&p are reviewing…

            It gets really, really difficult to raise capital to support development or you pay very high interest for it. With cutting aid and losing international support, high unemployment, rising population etc. and lack of growth I don’t see any positive prospect for the future.

            This the reason I said “Ethiopians few years from now will ask the question was it worth it? Meaning was it worth it making peace with Isayas?”

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            One of the major accomplishments of PMAA was to bring Eritrea on the friends column. It just paid its dividend when Isu saved Ethiopia from the day dreaming juntas.
            Abiy is a genius!!!!

            Abiy did not start the war. His army was attacked by the juntas.
            What did you expect him to do? Just sit and pray?
            Now, leave Ethiopia and its credit worthiness alone and discuss Eritrean issues. I believe It is still worth discussing about Eritrea.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Your response these days is “mind your business and focus on Eritrean issue”.

            And Nitricc response is ” Pay your taxes and enjoy your host country and leave Eritrea issue to those back home”.

            As you wish my wish my friend. Not that I wish a bad economic future for the Ethiopian people, but I will remind when the dollar/birr exchange doubles within few years.

            BTW, I am not and was not endorsing the attack but what Abiy was cooking with IA for the past 2 years prior to that.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Thanks buddy for your concern. It is always heartwarming to see an Eritrean worry about the well-being of Ethiopia.
            Berhe, I enjoy the forum much better when the focus is on Ethiopia and its multifaceted issues.
            In the last couple of years we had handful of articles, Gedab News and loads of Negarit editions focused on Ethiopia and King Abiy. The comment section is nothing but Ethiopia and its issues.
            Funny thing is there are only couple of Ethiopian participants left actively engaging.
            When was the last time you heard about ይአክል movement in this forum? Almost never!
            When was the last time Ato Amanuel or Brhan shared anything about Eritrea? Just recently prisoners were released from Eritrea. Did someone shared the news? I doubt it. I don’t think Belittling PMAA and his administration is a smart move in bringing a desired change in Eritrea.
            Anyway, I love reading anything about Ethiopia in this forum. It shows you how important Ethiopian issues are for Eritreans.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You have a point and it was my new year resolution to stay on Eritrean issue. I will keep my resolution and leave Ethiopia issue to Ethiopians unless it concern Eritrea.

            I just finished listening to parts interview to veteran Eritrean tegadalay Ahmed Al-Qeysi.

            What a story teller and what a talent he has to lay out things very simple but very deep knowledge and deep understanding.

            I think all of us need to hear and learn from his message (Amanuel please listen in you haven’t) and how we should navigate this whole thing.

            Saay, you have a very valid point, I as one of those who haven’t been focusing on the loss of Eritrean lives in this war.

            Question:
            1) I did not see Al-Qeysi as member of the National Assembly. I wonder what happened to him in 1994. Was he sidelined or he left?

            2) Have tried to reach out to him, if he can be an organizer or part of the congress for the EPLF members that you have in mind. I think he has extra ordinary talent and has experience as one of the EPLF Congress organizers.

            Berhe

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Brhan,

      Thank you for bringing the Aljazeera report to our attention. I just read it. And I saw the trauma and the anger of the Tigray people, in the clip part of their report. Very sad to see such pains within the ordinary people. However, the doubters, the deniers, and the perplexed will continue with their doubting. The words “doubting, denying, perplexing” are using them as positional coverups for the culprits of the crimes. All major news outlets have reported the same like the Aljazeera. Nothing will change them as they are purposely denying. Their denials has a purpose though in the final analysis, that purpose has its own end when the international community intervened to stop it. It is a matter of time.

      Tegarfs

    • Nitricc

      Brhan; you see how you exposed. What is you and the thugs? hmmmmm

      እቦ ግዳይ ዓመጽን ስንክልናን ሞናሊዛ ኣብርሃ ኣቶ ኣብርሃ .. ሰለምንታይ ደኣ ን ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ጸለመ ተደልዩ? ድሕሪ ሞናሊዛ ዘሎ ዳይረክተር ከ መን እዩ ?
      ንምንታይ ናይ ፖሎቲካ መንግዲ ኮይና ?
      ኣቦ ሞናሊዛ . ጋለይ 4 November ተሃሪማ
      3-4 November ፍሉይ ሓይሊ ትግራይ ን ሰሜን እዚ ዘክበበሉን ዝረሸነሉን መዓልቲ እዩ
      ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ይትረፍ መቀለ ዶብ ትግራይ ኣይረገጸን ::
      ሞናሊዛ 26 December እየ ተደፊረ
      ሞናሊዛ ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ረኪቦም ንሕክምና ኣብጺሖምኒ
      BBC 3 ታሕሳስ ወትሃደራት ኢትዮጵያን ዓሚጾማ ወትሃደራት ኤርትራ ኣድሒኖማ
      Aljezira ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ዓሚጾማ
      ስለምንታይ እዚ ኩሉ ጸለመ ነቲ ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራውያን ስደተኛታት ዝወረደ ግፍዕን በደልን ቅትለትን ዓመጽን ንምክዋል .
      ሓቂ ብእግራ ተቀበርካያ ብ ርእሳ ትወጽእ
      ምሕረት የውርደልኪ ሞናሊዛ
      ኤርትራውያን ብሓላፍነት እንዳተርጎምኩን ሼር በልዎ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ን ኤረትራውያን
    ሕማም መንሽሮ ዶ ሕማም ህግደፍ
    ይቐዝፍ ዝብዝሕ?
    እስከ ንርኣዮ

    ሕማም ህግደፍ
    ሃገር የግድፍ
    ይኣስር ይቐትል
    የርዕድ ዜጋታቱ ይቕንጽል
    ብሃንደበት
    ብሚልዮናት

    ዳርጋ ሓምሳ ካብ ምኢቲ
    ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ዘብረሰ
    ሕማም ህግደፍ’ዩ

    ሃገር ብሃገራ ዘሰንከለ
    ንህዝባ ከጥፍእ
    ከም ግዝያዊ መንግስቲ ኴኑ
    ዝዓሰለ
    ሕብሪ ባህሊ ሃገር ዝበለለ
    ናትኩም ዩ ኢሉ ዝጀሃር
    ናትካ ኢና ከይተባህለ
    ሕጊ ንዳባ ዝበከለ
    ካበይ መጽዩና ከይተባህለ
    መርዛም ናይ ጎጃም ደብተራ
    ዘበለ

    ወሪዱዎ መንሽሮ
    ከመይሉ ንህግደፍ ክወዳደሮ
    ብጥፍኣት
    ቪቫ!
    ህግደፍ ኳትሮ
    መንሽሮ ግን ዜሮ

  • Haile S.

    Selam Awate people,

    When serious allegation comes to the forefront a certain level of caution is necessary. Case in point, please read this link:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/12/19/amnesty-international-accuses-iraq-of-atrocities-in-kuwait/78f4f740-dc16-4386-976e-21f54007e7ee/

    • Nitricc

      Hi Haile, here is a clip that heads your point. Satrt at 45 minutes to 60 minute mark. This guy is reporting from Tigray to the Tigryans in diaspora. It is really cheeling reportage from Axum. He is advising the diaspora to stop lies to the international community. And most of it, he conformed that the Axum thing didn’t happened. listen to your self. It is amazing how Eritrea is defamed for nothing. I can understand the lies from Tigryans in diaspora, but i am at lose the Eritreans who are defending the lies of Tigryans against Eritrea. Again start from 45 to 60 minutes This is supposed be inside and secret reporting but some how the brave Eritreans intercepted it..
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPOfX7WaS-U&t=4211s

      • Haile S.

        Selam Nitricc,

        I watched the portion you mentioned. Very interesting indeed! We will see the results of any serious investigations on the allegation and/or on its fabricators. Thank you for bringing the video to our knowledge here at the Awate forum.

        • saay7

          Selamat Haile:

          I really want to know what is it you found interesting in the video shared. The sample I heard:

          “Beraki Gebreselasse, Eritrea’s former ambassador to Germany, later with the G-15, used to get money from Weyane and meet with Martin Plaut. This was reported by Abdulkader Hamdan.”

          1. Beraki used to be Minister of Information and Martin Plaut a BBC Africa reporter. Within that context, what is so strange about the meeting.
          2. There is zero evidence that Beraki received a penny from Weyane
          3. Despite traditional law and country’s law that the accused must be brought to a court of law, they never presented Beraki to court and they have made him disappear for 19 + years. So with him silenced, they can, like the cowards they are lie about him all day.
          4. Abdulkader Hamdan was recorded on video with one of the earlier Young NNNN groups, that the founders of awate received funding and they have a big villa in Los Angeles, a fabrication from A to Z. It received its deserved mockery at the time. The man is a disinformation specialist, and he does it for cheap: Isaias gave him a “think tank” after he turned coat and gave up on the opposition (they have no money.)

          It is these kind of lies, and the steady supply of suckers it recruits that believes such absurdities. Absurdities that makes people believe that 20 of the 75 members of the ruling party’s legislative body, were traitors.

          And you know what they say about people who believe in absurdities. They rationalize atrocities. Exactly what we are seeing in Tigray.

          The NNNN are such dunces they think we don’t have family members in the EDF who talk to their families, who are our families.

          saay

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Saleh,
            Regime zealots do not have their own eyes, ears and tongues. The matter gets weird when sceptics also share the bandwagon.

          • saay7

            Hala Ismail:

            It’s precisely because Haile S strikes me as a thorough and multilingual reader that I asked him what am I missing. Surely it can’t be an actor in mock outrage, citing A Hamdan, accusing one of the gentlest members of the EPLF leadership, Beraki Gebreselassie, as a man under the payroll of Weyane because he also met with Martin Plaut. I mean this is Isaiasism 101, and Haile must have seen another part of the unwatchable video, the invite is not to listen to the idiocy, but to the chants of the coached and coerced in the comments section.

            Not one of them could answer this: “ tell me, just yes or no, are Eritrean soldiers fighting and dying in Tigray?” they couldn’t answered because they haven’t been given the coaching. The cult leader is silent on the issue, and so must the cult.

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Ahlen Saleh,
            It’s disheartening when a born free mind become by choice, emotion or greed conduit for product of someone’s mind at the expense anything of value to that person or group. Perhaps, the most devastating phase of a dictator’s ascent to maturation of control is when he/she makes sure through necessary tools of control possession of such a power base. Converts like the one you have mentioned (Handan) turn out to be shamelessly vicious.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Saleh,

            I think in the video mentioned, 45-60 min does not talk about Beraki. It a voice of someone from Aksum refuting the atrocious that is being committed by Eritrean / Ethiopian soldiers.

            His video is also shared in FB which I have seen already.

            I am not speaking for Haile but this is where I have conflict believing all the news.

            1) Are Eritrean army involved in Tigray. Isayas Afeworki can say what ever he wants but it’s a fact that I don’t think anyone would deny it.

            2) Should Eritrea had a reason to get involved? Personally, as it was initially reported, that TPLF fired missiles to Asmara then Eritrea had the right to respond / get involved.

            3) Are Eritreans committing atrocities at the order of the Eritreans president in Tigray and including ethnic war?

            This is a fact I find it hard to believe. I don’t deny in war there will be damage and soldiers do commit a
            crimes. Is it systematic and ordered from the higher up (president) to inflict ethnic war to the people of Tigray as it has been reported?

            I don’t believe so. My reason being, IA for the past 50 years has not caused any harm to Ethiopian civilians and Ethiopian infrastructure.

            Let alone now that he is dancing and pumping his heart, even during the liberation of Asseb, he ordered all the goods that was left and captured during the war, returned. Where people like General Biteweded have been in jail for 25 plus years for disobeying his orders, that’s at the backdrop of bombing civilians abs infrastructure of such as Massawa, still damaged today.

            Will he change now, and he wanted to cause damage to Ethiopia?

            I think it’s probably easy to ask, will he change now and be kind to Eritrean people after being so cruel for 50 years. Definitely no.

            Highlighting and advocating for peace is one thing, but Eritreans fuelling, the false narrative by certain people who are left over TPLF is another thing.

            Do we know any Ethiopian who said anything wrong for the bombing of Massawa?

            Do we know any Ethiopian who admitted wrong fir the massacre of Una, carpet bombing of cities abs civilians?

            There is the Ethiopian government who is suppose to be responsible fir their own people including Tigray and Tigray people.

            They should point all criticism, all investigation and all atrocities committed towards them.

            As Eritreans admitting and taking the blame to all what’s wrong in Tigray will have a continued conflict, resentment and war for generations to come.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            I think in the video mentioned, 45-60 min does not talk about Beraki. It a voice of someone from Aksum refuting the atrocious that is being committed by Eritrean / Ethiopian soldiers.

            Hi Berhe; He knows. But he has to watch all that garbage to find some things to dis credit the Axum BS. He is sad the massacre it didn’t happened, in his mind, he was hoping that the massacre happened and Eritrea will be held responsible for it, and then PIA will be charged war crime and face ICC. That is it. I specifically pointed out where to start and where to end so, people won’t waste their time. Why go through all that? desperate mind will do anything including watching garbage in hope to find something soul soothing.
            And Yes, the Eritrean soldiers are in Ethiopia and they are not leaving till TPLF is 101% dead. It is clear Ethiopian soldiers are not to the challenge. The language barriers has disadvantages the Ethiopian soldiers and that where the Eritrean soldiers fitted nicely.
            Yes Eritrea has 1000 reasons to get involved. The thugs plan was first to get PMMA and then right after head to Asmara and get rid of Eritrean government. Very good reason. Hadia ala Bzalamesa? remember?
            No Eritrean soldiers never committed any crimes. The Tigryans are saying it, it is with each other all the looting and the crimes. TPLF freed over 8K hard criminals and they are doing what they know best.
            Now, every one calm down and worry about your life, kids, family and don’t forget to pay your taxes to your western country and leave alone Eritrea. i don’t understand why people care?

          • saay7

            Selamat Berhe:

            The link that Nitricc sent opened at the 1:10:10 minute mark and that’s what I heard and replied to.

            On the 1. Isaias adventurism in the Tigray War & destroying the lives of more young Eritreans as the Frappuccino Field Marshals in the Diaspora cheer and 2. the allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Tigray, I will address in a separate post some other time, time allowing.

            saay

          • saay7

            Selamat Ismailom:

            All the war mongers (with their sons and daughters safely hidden, beginning with the leaders of their cults of PP and NNNN) never ask one question: how many Eritreans and Ethiopians (tigrayans or non tigrayans), most of them in their 20s, have perished and are to perish in this war.

            This is how morally bankrupt they are.

            Everything else from there is just a sliding scale into their favorite sport: circuitous talk to avoid that question and its answer.

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. Problem here is that people (unless person-to-person frontal attack), rarely really call a spade a spade. Just how many Eritrean lives do you believe have been unnecessarily wasted as a result of the total/astronomical incompetence of elements of the Eritrean opposition that have for more than 2 decades been woefully compromised by wretched association with the TPLF? It’s due time for the compromised Eritrean opposition to come clean. Shall we start here with a honest and forthright article highlighting the negative dirty deeds done by the TPLF over the past 3 decades? While I have seen an endless numbers of articles attacking PMAA during his short rein of power, I do not recall even a single article likewise, even remotely, critiquing deplorable TPLF episodes. For many of us, the most morally bankrupt are not PFDJ supporters but rather those who have committed treason.

          • saay7

            Selamat Dongollo:

            That’s the ultimate “look over there” hustle of a magician: it’s just that because you guys are incompetent at everything you are incompetent at that too. In no country in the entire world do the people blame those who are not in power but those in power. Somehow due to your aversion to taking responsibility you have weaved this story of “well yeah those in power are those who want a unipolar world, the US, EU, Amnesty, UN, the Pope…”. For 30 years. And even after the defeat of Weyane, now the excuse making is re-directed to something else.

            There are tons of articles in opposition websites critiquing the opposition. Including here where you write. Show me a single incident anywhere in government media where the pro gov have criticized the gov. Never happens. Instead it is the same scratched vinyl song. For 30 years. Their time is up: I just hope they leave without destroying Eritrea because unlike Mengistu they would have no problem destroying Asmara to stay in power. Just as they have let the city deteriorate.

            The rest of your accusations are just that: they don’t become true by sheer repetition.

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. Hustle of a magician? I ask you one simple question: Please provide one article on this website that has really critiqued the negative behavior & dirty deeds of the TPLF.

          • saay7

            Dongolo:

            There were dozens. Make a little effort.

            And the focus is stil the predator in Eritrea. And what you are doing even now with your questions is to change the subject. Find another dance partner.

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. I didn’t ask for dozens but only a single article that this website has ever provided that critiques the TPLF’s negative behavior and dirty deeds? Surely, you can provide one single title, no? And to be correct, the focus of most here has for sometime appeared to be the internal affairs of Ethiopia and PMAA. Seems that’s you are a far better ‘look over there’ master than I. Please don’t forget to use salutations in the future.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Dongola,
            Yes there are many articles that criticize the TPLF. But you have to research and find it. This trick of “I will accuse you of something and you find a defense will not work here.” If it was a court fo law (which Eritrea doesn’t have) maybe. Otherwise, it’s lopsided. Can you prove you are not hired by the Ethiopian or PFDJ intelligence? Of course you can’t and I can’t prove my allegation. You cannot trick awate to get down into your playing ground.

            Let’s say Saay presented you with an article, then what? Will you change you mind retroactively and apologize? Even if you did, what is the value of an apology from an a person with a nickname?

          • Dongolo

            Selam Saleh Jowhar. I am referring to articles which are clearly aimed at providing a critique of the negative behavior and actions of the TPLF rather than articles which have passing negative comments of the TPLF. It either exists or it doesn’t.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Dengolo; it doesn’t exist!!!!

          • saay7

            Abu Salah:

            He has already succeeded in his mission: to have you and me and whoever will join the discussion to talk about TPLF, to distract attention from the brute in Eritrea. If he was really curious all he has to do is type “TPLF Awate.com” in Google. And do the work: but his task is only one: change the topic from keeping the focus on his overlord. Why would they talk about TPLF which they keep telling themselves over and over is dead? Remember “ክተት” is the order Isaias gives them whenever he needs protection from the consequences of his actions.

            Not dancing to that tune. You shouldn’t either. Remember ክተት is more ሸኾርተት and they are very skilled at it.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hello Saay
            I believe Ato Amanuel brought the fake news about Ethiopia and distracted the forum from discussing Eritrean issues. I respectfully reminded him to focus on Eritrean issues. Apparently, I failed miserably. Brhan continued following Ato Amanuel’s example bringing another fake news.
            As planned, the forum is back discussing Ethiopian issues.

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam Abi,
            I agree with you, absolutely.

          • saay7

            Abi:

            እናመሰግናል

            In all the calls that the world (the US, EU soon the UN) are making on Eritrean soldiers to withdraw from Ethiopia, they are all doing it on the basis of “what’s good for Ethiopia?” You may disagree with their conclusions but that is their motive. Meanwhile nobody is talking what’s good for Eritrea, how many Eritrean youth have we lost in this stupid war, will Isaias, this time, be accountable for bleeding Eritrea. It’s mind boggling to me that people discuss this as what’s good for Weyane and whats good for Abiy, with previous few discussing the actual cost of this war to Eritreans. Some actually spend half their time saying the Weyane is destroyed and the other half saying it must be destroyed. Weirdos.

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. Rather Impertinent it is for you to assume who my ‘overlord’ is. You are wrong. Such assumptions don’t bode well for ‘Unity’ approach.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            መርሓባ አያ’ዲኡ,

            “ንፋለጥ’ሞ ንማለጥ” እንድዩ እቲ ጉዳይ ናይዝአቶም: እሞ ግርም ገይርካ ሒዝካያ’ለኻ እታ ዕርፊ:: ጨለ ዚሓወይ ከም ቀደምካ::

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ሳልሕx2፡ ደንጎሎ + ሰብ ዓወተ፡

            ስኣን ድልይ ድልይ ኣብ google
            ደንጎሎ ኰንካና እኮ መሕጎል 😁

            እነሃለካ ዓመት ዘይገበረ ብኽንቲት ባእሲ
            የተሓሳስቦም ይህሉ ሕጂ ደቂሶም ኣብ ማእሲ

            http://awate.com/tplf-eritrean-opposition/

          • Nitricc

            Now for those who expected to see a quarrel, and listen to cheap shots, I am sorry for their disappointment. I keep my little energy for meaningful fights and there is nothing I would fight over with Getachew

            Hi Haile i know you trying to appease but you should be an honest mediator. How exactly is this article criticizing the TPLF thugs? Come on man!!!!

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኒትሪክ፡

            ምዕንጭልቚት እሾኽ ቀንጢብካ ብወረጦ
            እቲ ኹሉ ገዲፍካዮ ሳልሕ ዝደኸሞ ዝሓንጠጦ

            ባእሲ ክትርኢ ትመስል ‘ደለኻ ብመደረጋሕ
            ዘሎ ኣይመስለንን ደም-ትኒን ዘበለ መልሰ-ልቓሕ

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            I never fully accepted how others described you. But the more I think of it, the more I scratch my head. You never learned anything after 20 years of discussion here. You are a one— I mean a one issue operative. I don’t expect you to understand what criticism is. You have proven time and again that to you, jingoism and criticism are interchangeable. Not only I don’t do jingoism, we t ry hard to stop it in this forum. The hzbawi maHberat mentality is for those who are used to mimicking the cult script like parrots. Not for people who employ basic critical thinking and have rational thinking.

            Forget scrutinizing our record, consult a basic elementary school dictionary and look up JINGOISM–just trying, not that I think you will understand it.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Nitricc. It is effervescently clear that this article does not provide a critique of the TPLF’s negative behavior and dirty deeds of the past 30 years.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saay7,

            I watched the portion that Nitricc indicated. The unusual and “insider” nature of the story and the presentation of believable doubt on such mass killing is what interested me, not rationalising what the regime or anything regime supporters say.

            On the mass killing, I had a lot of double when it came as a news in January at EEPA in the form of 700 or 750 of 1000 parishers massacred in the church or its compound. The news didn’t get traction and was simmering until recently. Throughout these times, it went through variations. Back in November, few days after ሕዳር ጽዮን, there was news item that appeared at Meskeremdotcom, likely EEPA (not sure) on how desolate the place was that Holy-day with few people compared to what it was supposed to be. When I read the later news in January, the disconnect came to mind. All these to say, I remained very perplexed about this issue.

            Now on the video, I was intrigued by the mixed tigrigna pronunciation of the guy and expressions he used. He sounded like my asmarino friends from axum who mixes deliberately. Could it have been made up? Yes, there is all kind of suspicions on everything and everybody these days. Creditation through discreditation or discreditation through creditation is the modus operandi these days.

            In your exchanges with Ismail, you mentioned a video about Hamdan. I didn’t watch it, I don’t visit or subscribe his TV channel, unless something come as interesting by coincidence. I might be a Ni-Ni (french for neither this nor that), but certainly not N to the power of 4.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            For someone who is doubtful and perplexed about the news these days, wouldn’t it better for him/her to be away from commenting until he/she finds something that shows him/her believable either way(as false or true)?

            In any case your comment though it is totally rapped from being open and direct (as a matter of fact all your comments), if one tries to pierce on them, it gives hint that you are one from those who viewed the Eritrean army are not fighting inside Tigray and the atrocities that are befallen on Tigray people are not verifiable. That is how I read your comment. The clip you brought up tells your stand on the situation. If I am wrong correct me. I will stand corrected.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            Starting from your last question. You are wrong. I didn’t comment on presence or absence of Eritrean soldiers. I commented on the alleged killing. The very fact of trying to associate the happening or not of a massacre with presence or absence of Eritrean soldiers in Tigray is ridiculous. This tells me that the massacre is of interest as an instrument of conflict (the 1990 Washington post I linked and what was found after), not of its human tragedy. Eritrean soldiers may be present there and no massacre could have happened or they could be absent and the massacre could have been perpetuated by another group. The remaining part of your comment is opinion on me. I am not interested in answering to that.

          • saay7

            Selamat Haile S:

            As I indicated to Berhe, when I followed the link it opened at the 1:10:10 mark, perhaps because I had already begun to watch the video and that’s where I had stopped? Anyway that’s where you will see all the catalog of lies I listed.

            My premise about anything that is not certain is I always begin “assume the PFDJ is lying” (because, shocking as it sounds, they lie even more than TPLF and Abiy) and this assumption has always been validated.

            I will have more to say about that in a separate post (time allowing): my intervention yesterday was to interrupt the disinformation officers (the manjuses and the oldies), who are simply following the orders of their cult leader to ክተት! (Code for: I am about to get some of your brothers and sisters killed) while they have themselves safely tucked in the West.

            saay

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saay7,

            When I opened it, it started somewhere else, but I slided it back to 45 minutes. And in my response to Nitricc I said, “I watched the portion you mentioned” because I didn’t watch the remaining. My response, therefore shouldn’t have been mystifying. ዓንጾዓንጾ ንማዕጾ ጌርጋዮ (ማዕጾ፡ no pan intended).

          • saay7

            Selamat Hailat:

            Did I? I apologize to you if you believe I did! Like I said I wasn’t paying attention to the minute mark but where the link opened on my end. My “extend the benefit of the doubt” patience meter is running low for those sources with a long history of a biography that never adds up, who are here on a mission to be in the service of Isaias (never ever Eritreans despite all the lip service they pay.)

            Speaking of ማዕጾ have you noticed we have a lot of Tigrinya words that are job descriptions? ማዕጾ መፍትሕ መፍተል? Also applies to the people I am referencing: መትከኽ: መሕግወል..

            Saay

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sal,

            Let me make you smile (hopefully) + some anecdotes.
            Talking about ማዕጾ, when General De Gaulle died in 1970, our neighbor came to our house telling my dad about the news he just heard on the radio. They talked about De Gaulle at length. It was a big thing for them and I didn’t understand why they were so shocked. It was also my first time to hear his name. For me the word ደጎል was either the big dry tree trunk used as a fence door in my grandparent’s ህድሞ, the name of one of the many village cousins or the name of the Dog in the village neighborhood that scared me when I went there. I was surprised ደጎል was the name of a Ferenji, a French president at that.

            De Gaulle, like his tigrigna name, was the door (ማዕጾ) to Germany’s ambition despite the capitulation of its leader, Marechal Petain, to Hitler. De Gaulle represented the french moral, Resistance and bravery. A small group of Free French army to which he was a symbol came to Eritrea with the British to kick Italy out Eritrea and Ethiopia. The free Belgian army also joined them. One of these Belgian soldiers was the grandfather of my post-graduate class-mate. When he died in the early 90s, she came to me giving me a book she found among the package she inherited entitled The Abyssinian Campaigns: The official story of the conquest of Italian East Africa. As a bookworm of Abyssinian history, I was overjoyed.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Haile,
            Thank you for sharing the anecdotes. I had never encountered anything about the Belgians and Frenchmen who had been so much concern about freedom and took the all the travail to come to Eritrea and help the fighting to end Fascism.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            ካበየናይ ሳንዱቅ ኢኻ እዚ “መሕገወል” ዝብል ቃል አምጺእካዮ? እንታይ ማለትኮን ይኸውን? ሓገዝካ እደሊ አለኹ::

          • saay7

            Emma:

            I don’t have the font for it now but “mehgol” is what I am trying to write. It’s a synonym for metkekh.

            Saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay & Mehandsay,

            Thank you both. I will take it as synonyms of “ መትከኽ” if it is not Asmarino lingua.

            Regards

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ፕሮፌስረ ኤማ
            መሕጎል ማለት ዩ። ሰዓይ ኣመሪካነት ይስዕሮ ከይህሉ
            መሕጎል መደንገል መትከኽ መሕበጥ ፈጣሪ መርዘን ወዘተረፈ….

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            መሕገወል: ማለት ዘይሰምዕ መብዛሕትኡ ግዜ እንዳፈለጠ::

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Haile,

            Now on the video, I was intrigued by the mixed tigrigna pronunciation of the guy and expressions he used. He sounded like my asmarino friends from axum who mixes deliberately. Could it have been made up?

            I saw the video of the guy you are referring, and he sounded very authentic to me. If I find the video (I am sure Nitricc will find it) but he us from Aksum and he seems to know what he was talking about and he has done his homework to confirm. And he leaves it open for people to supplement with evidence if possible.

            Note: He continued to refer to Eritrean military as HGDF army (enemy), so there no olive lost with IA/PFDJ. I think his point is, let’s be credible and we need to be truthful.

            Berhe

        • Nitricc

          Hi Haile; the whole thing of this Axum id falling apart fast. Aminsty international it has in its report that they got their information by talking to people straight from Axum on Feb-6th and it happens on Feb 6 there was not phone service in Axum. Feb the 8th is the first day service rendered. CNN is half way to dumb the news and move on. This will be the turning point to Ethiopia’s advantage and Tigryans will be on the record book for misleading the world. Going forward And no one will ever believe them even they tell the truth. I am just pissed Eritrea and her brave army had to be mention on this cheep propaganda.

  • said

    Greetings
    Report obtained by The New York Times. Ethiopia’s War Leads to Ethnic Cleansing in Tigray Region, U.S. Report Says Ethiopian officials and allied militia fighters are leading a systematic campaign of ethnic cleansing in Tigray, the war-torn region in northern Ethiopia, according to a confidential United States government .
    Fighters and officials from the neighboring Amhara region of Ethiopia, who entered Tigray in support of Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, are “deliberately and efficiently rendering Western Tigray ethnically homogeneous through the organized use of force and intimidation,” the report says. Whole villages were severely damaged or completely erased,” the report said.
    In a second report, published Friday, Amnesty International said that soldiers from Eritrea had systematically killed hundreds of Tigrayan civilians in the ancient city of Axum over a 10-day period in November, shooting some of them in the streets.
    Article courtesy of The New York Times.Pls see the link Ethiopia’s War Leads to Ethnic Cleansing in Tigray Region, U.S. Report Says – The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    Ethiopia’s war leads to ethnic cleansing in Tigray region, US report says | The Independent

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam,

    The phrase ‘No Quarter’ was generally used during military conflict to imply combatants would not be taken prisoner, but killed. ‘Take no prisoners’ was a similar phrase also generally used.

    Abiy, Amhara and Eritrean soldiers must have been dancing to ‘No Quarter’, by Led Zeppelin:

    https://youtu.be/6xcOZghoZZY

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam,

    Just another lovely day in Africa:

    https://www.breitbart.com/africa/2021/02/27/report-eritrean-troops-massacred-hundreds-civilians-tigray-ethiopia/

    Oh, by the way, which side is China supporting?

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. ‘Criticism of Amnesty International (AI) includes claims of selection bias, as well as ideology and foreign policy bias against either non-Western countries or Western-supported countries. … Amnesty International has also been criticized for paying some of its staff high salaries.’ Regarding Axum, just look at who AI interviewed (a group a defeated TPLF men) and why is it that they do not highlight the fact that TPLF dressed and masquerading as Eritrean soldiers are reported to have committed crimes against their own people?

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas
    FYI
    Atrocities in Ethiopia’s Tigray Region
    PRESS STATEMENT
    ANTONY J. BLINKEN, SECRETARY OF STATE
    FEBRUARY 27, 2021

    https://www.state.gov/atrocities-in-ethiopias-tigray-region/

    • Dongolo

      Selam Brhan. Do you think maybe that the U.S. these days is a bit more than concerned about new visitors to Assab?

      • Brhan

        Selam Dongolo,
        UAE again, at the request of PM A. Ahmed Ali

      • Abi

        Hello Dongolo
        Tell me more, please.
        You always say 10% of what you know.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Brhan,

      Thanks for the link. It is a powerful message. Let us wait how Abij will react. And, it seems mistaken policy is bearing fruit slowly. Diplomatically, PR and militarily Abij-Isayas forces have started to put themselves on the receiving end. Dictators do not usually see how dynamics of people-to-government contradictions work with time. Yesteryears, it was in Eritrea; and presently in Tigrai.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ንዶንጎላ ማይ ከተስቲ
    ከፍርየልካ ሸዊት
    ንጎቦ እምባ-ሶይራ ረሓቐለይ
    ኢልካ ክትሓትት
    መታን ክትሓልፍ
    ካብ ዳንከልያ ናብ መታሕት
    ‘ተተመስለልካ

    ንንዳ ንሕና-ንሱ ከተረድእ
    ክትፍትን
    መንሽሮ ዝሓዞ
    ከርበ ወዲ ከርበ ተዓጠን
    ክትብሎ ‘ተተመሰለሉ

    ናፍታ ካብ በንዚን
    ፍልልዩ ዘይፈልጥ
    ነዳዲ ክፍሕርየ ኢሉ
    ላዕልን-ታሕትን ዘዕለብጥ
    ዝልኽብጥ
    ትኣምኖ ብተስፋ ትነብር

    ሰላምን ፍቕርን ዝሰብኽ
    ሓላፊ መንገዲ ክማርኽ
    ጽልምት ምስበለ ገን
    ምስ ማፍዮዞ ዝዓርኽ
    ቀትሪ ተገቲሩ
    ምስይ ምስበለ ግን
    ፍሑኽ-ፍሑኽ
    ገዛ ንጹሃን ከባርዕ
    ምእማን
    ንእዝኒ ንጹሃን ይፈጥር
    ሕርኽርኽ
    ካብ ከምዝን ወዲ ከምዝን
    ፈውሱ
    ሽሕ ኪሎ መተር ካብኡ ርሕቕ!

    • Brhan

      MM ከመይ ከመይ
      እዛ “ዝልኽብጥ” እትብል ቃል(ናይ ትግርኛ ሹቕ)ፕሮፈሶር ከይረኣያ ቀልጢፍካ ገለ ርኸበላ

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ብርሃን
        ከም መማቕርቲ ጌርካ ውሰዳ!
        ደሓር ከኣ ማዕለሽ ኣላ ንኹሉ ትሽፍን 🙂

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Hayet Adem and Dr. Paulos (or whoever they really were), first popped to mind when seeing ‘’Eritreans in Ethiopia Fear for Their Safety.’.But on second thought, I am sure they like many others who suddenly disappeared with the fall of the TPLF, were simply digital TPLF.

  • Metaphor

    I suppose this was inevitable although it is no less tragic. In regards to the Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia; it was never a monolithic group…some were TPLF’s darlings and had no qualms about riding the coattails of TPLF into Eritrea if such a plan was deemed wise back then. Others advocated for a non-violent approach where change occurs inside the country and saw their roles in all of this as only political. I don’t personally feel sorry for the former (most of whom were content with the divisive politics that wrecked havoc on the opposition movements throughout the world) but sad that the latter now find themselves in danger.

  • Nitricc

    Hi all; this news I consider to be true.so many news from so many medias about the Eritrean refugee in Ethiopia but this news seems to the truth. The bright side they are back home out from the harm’s way. The way thing going on, i wish all go back home.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9npztvfYk

  • said

    Greetings.
    If “the pen is mightier than the sword”
    we are witnessing history in our country at our own peril. If history is any guide. I loathe predicting the future. Eritrean are able to offer a more compelling vision for change.

    Yesterday Abi Mentioned that (He saw an Eritrean restaurant owner on Bole Road taken away by armed men in a broad daylight. He was in the restaurant when this happened) just one as a example of innocent private citizen he basic right was violated by Eritrean government flouting international law. I conveys my sincerity, compassion and understanding of suffering of families that their loved one disappeared and never to be heard again and all lives lost crossing the desert and crossing Mediterranean sea and dying in refugee comps . Many Eritrean living in Addis Ababa for decade peacefully ,raising their families and doing business , for IA they were the new enemy to be hunted . many in fringe of suspension were arrested, and spirited away to unknown place and they died under unjust circumstances, neither of whom can be seen again. But families testimonies, eyewitness descriptions, reflections and memories of the loved ones of those executed and their friends and comrades, they are still alive in exposing the crimes. For the missing “no to be forgetting!” it is still an untold story. Not to be complicit in these crimes “if we remain silent.” It is one of the darkest periods of contemporary Eritrean history. It’s worse than a national disgrace.

    Eritrean must spend more time organizing and mobilize . Organizing is the only way to defeat the regime and deliver the strategy. we have enough Eritrean who are sophisticated, disciplined, serious, committed and able bring change . Of course, all of this is easier said than done. Some may say Déjà Vu All Over Again. Fast forward from then to now. How we measure time is important. It is a metric that is not merely linear . Vison and actions, of policies and projections, Unity and Loyalty is a most positive human quality except when Eritrean are loyal to the wrong and oppressive IA and his political policy and dangerous ideas. IA didn’t simply emerge out of nowhere. IA cruelty arose from the collective psychic of EPLF and his brutality manifesto “NNNN Manifest for Eritrean Destiny” that ended in were we are . then, as it is now. we all know this, we must also know that it was well planned to be this way.

    There was never peaceful prosper and great noble with IA era. All of this led us to where we are now. But if we don’t recognize the consequences greater risk at our own peril. We must present counter voices to the one echoed by IA vile and hateful figure and his cohort. In the face of political arrogance and our societies are fractured, divided. We must remove NNNN conformity. We are all responsible, not just for ourselves but for all Eritrean. Diehard who are quite blind and happy with the current situation and do not want democracy and liberty and do not want repressive state to change, certainly not in any equal radical substantive way. The vast majority are sating Enough is enough and are desperate for change, for freedom, democracy and justice. change has forever been slow in coming but Change is in the air. The internet, social media and mass communication It’s easier much to organize to mobilize ‘People power’ .and to recognition that we are all responsible for one another united. And collectively we create the atmosphere for change through our actions and attitudes. the more we act, upon our principle the more the ripples of responsibility expand.

    Dealing with missing person and for many of those disappeared .No one is advocating for answers about what happened to their loved ones. It’s a question shared by many families.

    Addressing that many Eritrean lost their life based on Suspicion and Rumer, as mentioned it is real tragedy that have falling in those individual. sadly many lost their life without a trace and court trial. which is a stark violation of international law, the issue of legality, then “leaving it aside”, legality do not matter ,they are following the same blueprint for long time inside and outside of the boarder , at the expense of Eritrean living in Ethiopia. for Shabia rule of law and international law do not exists from day one till today ,nothing have changed , for Shabia there is no such a thing as internationally recognized borders, or human right ,only power and might is right , one want to believe international law is respected and Eritrean citizen living abroad are safe and secure .
    If we believe and persist in believing that people impaneled to render a decision in a legal proceeding should be expected to listen to the evidence before making their judgment, we will be fooled.
    The fact remain PFDJ turned against Eritrean own ’s citizens, it a normal practices old and new, whisking away non political dissidents and ordinary people it merely suspected of being aligned with social justice causes of any kind .By making them disappear and incarcerating and murdering them, is well recorded . Those individuals are “the missing,” The TPLF government at that time made no effort to identify or document the missing . By “disappearing” them and disposing of their bodies, SHABIA/PFDJ could in effect pretend they never existed. But the family members and friends of the disappeared knew they had existed. TPLF leadership knew about the “the missing,” involving human rights abuses ,they pretend not to know. They closed their eyes. Families searched desperately for traces of their loved ones and many searched for answers to no avail and presumably killed and case closed.
    We saw for thirty years of cruel of politics, what did IA achieve? Nothing of value amplifying division and engendering the nation ,Life time dictatorship presidency of distraction, disinformation, phony, empty talk, slicker, and oppressive A mafia-style government and get away with murder, all responsibility for crimes committed during his presidency will not absolved. We need to organize and changes will come through our action and unity.

    • Reclaim Abyssinia

      Wow,
      I think this is powerful. Need some more.
      Thanks & regards,
      Reclaim

      • said

        Greeting,
        Reclaim Abyssinia
        Thank you for your comment .I am very impressed about your comment below in regard your statement about ( Addis Ababa will have a new, improved identity soon. It will be the city for all the people in the horn (Abyssinia). We will not let history repeat itself as it did in the past. There will not be red terror, and there will not be cancelling citizenship for Amici, Ethiopian born Somali, Yemeni or Armani. It will also cease to be a trophy to any political parties, rebels or military. This is our statement for the Addis movement.)

        I am quiet carouse about your comment about progress in regard Addis Ababa. It is quite a leap of century .I will add my idea. in my short life observation The new found Enlightenment in Addis Ababa, That they already challenged the divine right of kings, the supremacy of the church, privileges of aristocrats, and other despotism gone with wind , I am right or still lingering in the dark age . Addis is envisioning democracy, rule of law ,personal equality, human rights, free speech .and all citizen of Africa are welcome , as you mentioned the new Geneva of Africa, Addis be will the new capital for all African .

        So Abiy is reincarnated .like Wilson Mandela and Theodore Roosevelt’s . Roosevelt Progressive Party sought many reforms at the beginning of the 20th century called the New Deal .Gave unions a right to organize, provided unemployment compensation for the jobless .Social Security pensions for retirees, and he set a forty-hour work week and a minimum wage, created food stamps and welfare for the poor, launched massive public works to make jobs. And a lot more. One would like to know more PM Abiy real reform, and his new PP idea and reform put into action and in addition what you listed below comments . As you know ,the Great Society leaped forward by Lyndon Johnson, introduced Medicare, Medicaid, consumer protection, the Job Corps. And guaranteed racial equality. “all men are created equal.” and hundreds of other improvements. Greatly improving life for all but not equal yet and a long way to go . at least some progress and I listed few Too much of a good thing.

        Can you tell us the people who have recently moved to the Geneva of Africa, Addis who they are. And those who recent arrival, up there in the top the hill .You can spot them in the lobbies of Addis top hotels and hear them debating about Addis, city actually is magical, attracting investors from China, US, Russia, Britain, GCC and Germany. Addis just become like Dubai of Middle east , That aside, as from me , I can not live in Addis apartment dwelling. I’m already missing the country side ,the nature ,cows and the lakes and good people of Ethiopia .missing good fresh air and 13 month of sunshine. When ever I come to your hospitable and welcoming capital, hopefully it is free of crime and is safe for Eritrean justices seekers and hopefully not be extradited.

        But I simply cannot bear to live in your new Addis year-round. I will buy small cheap chalet by lake with free title. forget the Riviera ,Côte d’Azur , Palm Beach, Miami .But not Massawa and its Christal beach , it is a Red Sea jewel , you are invited to come post IA ,not now, once it restored to its right place .But I am hope full the real Future will belong to Asmara ,since you have double citizenship, let some real Asmareno tell about their great city , the old tile belong to Asmara secondo Rome . The list is long. by the way would if you know how many bookstores there is in the Enlightenment city of Addis Ababa.

        Can you say more about Abiy ,the progress and advances about PP. leaving economicus aside ,in order not to pardon you .start with freedom of speech, censorship, rule of law and news reports . I desperately need to read accurate reporting and trustworthy facts in your Addis daily reporting and as you know Reliable journalism is more vital for the wellbeing of your society. Here is my dilemma, May be you can suggest which newspaper to read . I am for looking accurate information? to avoid “fake news”

        As you know freedom of speech is so essential to human progress and flourishing. Some Abiy supporter will say, There’s no crisis, I am just wondering

        • Reclaim Abyssinia

          Dear Said,
          Thank you @said , im preparing a reply for this. A bit tight with time. I will get back to you very soon.
          Cheers,
          Reclaim

        • Reclaim Abyssinia

          Dear Seid,
          😩 It’s very depressing to hear about Addis Ababa from your perspective. My mind is just blown away by your response, I can only say that ‘sometimes the truth hurt’. I cannot respond in the articulative way that you have done, but I will try to answer your paragraph by paragraph as it will be rude not to respond for such a nice write-up.

          Paragraph 1&2: Thank you.
          You are right, people are frustrated.
          Yes, Addis Ababa challenged the divine right of the king, the church and others.. but was it only Addis movements?
          I don’t believe it was the Addis Ababaian only movement but it was an influence of the global movement, I believe it was a transformation or part of the evolution of society across the globe. Let me attempt to name some of the flourishing global turning point movements, I can not be accurate as I grow up in the socialism era, and I never want to look back into that history and it is also outside my age group, however, here is some of the list.
          Socialism or communist was flourishing across the globe,
          Che Guevara Movement, Che guevara & Fidel Castro
          Civil rights movement,
          Black power movements,
          Doctor without border,
          Hippy or hippies movement.
          I think Addis Ababa as part of the global movement took parts in those change but it was hijacked by the ruthless army and supported by the USSR to sustain in power. May be worth mentioning that EPLF is one of the players that beat the USSR.

          Paragraph 2 & 3: Abiy is not the solution for Addis Ababa. Addis Ababa is the only solution to itself and the entire region in the horn.
          Addis Ababa will not be the new Geneva, but it is my wish and it might also be the only solution when Addis become a truly self-governing city, maybe a ‘city-state’ and the lobby is already started. That’s the only way Addis Ababa will be able to fulfil for its city as every great person you listed that did for their people. I think that will ensure ongoing peace to all in the horn of Africa.

          Paragraph 4: I don’t know what to tell you about the people at the top of the hill. If you are referring to Abiy and his team, they not that a big deal, it just Ethiopia being Ethiopia. Investors come and go, Military rulers come and go, I am happy to see the Oromo people progress in Ethiopia and they want to manage their affaire is great, but wanting to manage Addis will not help them at all. As I said Addis is for all, now it’s full of Eritrean young people, they are participating in every aspect of life, running a business, dealer, bar, night club, restaurant, etc. I hear that Bole street life is now taken over by young Eritrean, from young Oromo and Kembata.
          Paragraph 5: I would never buy a house or apartments in Addis. We already have a family home and business, utilised by the family we left behind. I don’t intend to compare beech houses around the globe with Addis and its surrounding. I have a friend who moved from USA and run a successful business and now they built a house by the lake Langano. Those are the only people I know who gave up USA beech for Lake Langano.
          Paragraph 6: Ok, I stayed in Massawa for a little bit, and it was way too hot or me. But I appreciate the beech, creativity of the people who were working in the bar at that time.
          Once I was suffering from the heat, and one of the bar lady she socks the white bedsheet in a bucket of water and hung it on the line in the room, and she placed the fan behind the white bedsheet, when she turned it on the blow from the fan hit the white bedsheet and cold moisture was blowing on my face and body, that was the best air conditioner that I ever experienced in Massawa. If I have a choice I would like to build and live in the bay of Zula and have my cappuccino and Gelate in Asmara, Komishetato, take a picture in photo shop nearby and get my cloth done by the tailors.
          Bookstore, you just remind me there is a long way to go in Addis. There was only a couple of bookstore in Addis and one of them was a British council, I used to go there a lot, and we used to buy lots of book from Merkato. You sound very much like my uncles and Aunts that moved from Asmara to Addis to attend university and Baherdar college. They are into bookstores and books, I was into maths & physics, challenging the neighbourhood kids with calculus & integration. I remember once my auntie daughter moved from Asmara to attend college and the entire street used to stop to look at her. She was not able to walk to the bus stop, and many Afro and freeze hair Asmarino boys used to come from 4-kilo uni to our home to take her out, I pictured you like one of those guys.
          You want me to say something about Abiy, I was crossed with him when he once threatens Addis by saying there will be bloodshed when the Addis people fought with Kero to stop them from hanging the Oromo flag in Addis.
          Abiy was born in Beshasha, which is close to Agaro, there used to be a big coffee plantation in that area owned by Eritrean people until confiscated by the communist regime. The Eritrean trucks used to transport leather and Coffee from Beshasha/Agaro to Eritrea with a major stopping point and warehouses in several cities. The leather and Coffee used to get exported to Italy.
          No magazine covers only Addis with freedom of speech as you describe it, but you gave me a good idea to start one. There is Addis standard but not to my liking. Maybe I should start with Addis weekly or Addis Daily, any recommendation?

          Cheers,
          Reclaim

          • said

            Greeting Reclaim Abyssinia
            Thank you for your respond and I appreciate your input, you answered paragraph by paragraph ,I was not expecting you answer in great detail ,my correspondence with you was courtesy and friendly manner ,nothing serous to be about, as you know history is written by winner in most cases as is case every where ,spicily in our region the myriad ways the history we know is always being forgotten , distorted and misinformation in one way or another, and though what we’ve been required to learn it and read ,at time what we are told about the past is often a big misrepresentation in favor of the ruler of what may have gone down, history truly matters. and learn from it ,not repeat the same mistake again It embeds itself in us and becomes a big chunk of our individual and collective identities. How we tell it a lot matters, and context matter ,
            often entirely our people are ignorant of their own history. the ruling propaganda machine distorts the fact , A lot swath of knowledge and information has been withheld from our people and the region at large , starting with your own country. Whether it’s oral history or written history, all pretty selective, isn’t it? there was never ever golden age in our past history ,never mind peace and property hard to come by . the government of the day of course, always the good guys? And the good lite never behave wrongly and never treat people badly, the horror that being falling on thousands of men, women, old and young ,in the name of good people is indefensible. You cant make the dictator better. Not at all. You cannot turn a bottle of poison into a refreshing perfume , no matter how much honey flower you pour into it.

            Cheers

    • Germay Berhane

      Selam Said,

      I think you were weaver(ALAMAY) You got a small thread continue to weaver make GABI, KUTA which is the work of Professional lairs.
      I assure you you and your friends will never see again Eritrea. Think about your retirement plan where ever you are.

      • said

        Selam

        Germay Berhane

        Before I tell you what I really think of you. First look at your own life journey ,how did you leave Eritrea and why ,did you escape for your life ? did you appley for refugee statues ,where ever you are living now, the answer is with you . From this perspective, may be you can help yourself from your ignorance , It is important for you to be able to connect these dots. Does it matter what really did occur to you ? you are only source for your story, or you can make your own “fake facts of yourself ”or be in denial ?did you know at one time you were refuge and what it means to be stateless ? You were without legal status or rights, you can’t operate as a normal citizen in a nation you settled ? You were prevented from doing almost anything? You were reduced to a non-person and not recognized ?, this was the order of the day. did you face discrimination? You are one of Hundreds of thousands of Eritrean refuge that had already fled Eritrea in last 30 years,? You left Eritrea escaping from direst poverty or escaping from dictator IA and his brutality and his serious human rights violations? You have no credibility, you are in denial ,refuse to see the truth.

        You are an apologist for barbarities and murder perpetrated by your master . What happened to your humanity and compassion? Many Eritrean are not content with the life in diaspora just making good life , but they wanted to make a real difference in the life of Eritrean and they are making efforts towards the political empowerment. By educating, mobilizing, organizing .They are the voice fighting for democracy , human rights, recognition, inclusion, and dignity. They are fighting for truth and justice, they are at the forefront of speaking truth to power. Unlike you weak. Exploited and brainwashed You are for injustice, tyranny, and dictatorships. why don’t you read from passionate defender of civil and human rights in the tradition of Mandela, Malcolm X, and MLK.

        Now. You have to learn to have grownup conversations. You are one of the radicle dehumanized fringe minority supporting IA regime . You do not fit to see the reality. As foot soldier .You part of disinformation and bigotry thought at school of your mater .you are going into your usual pathetic lies and insult , with your feebleness and incompetence.
        that is if are able to write an opinion defending you master ,that you have warned as a badge of honor for your apparent ignorance. You are lacking sufficient intellectual depth and breadth to support and understand democracy and human rights and equality before the law .Do you know how to tell the truth. As James Baldwin said: “Not everything that’s faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it has been faced.” Do you notice something important you can verify .if you are rational . The fact that a failed economic system is at the heart of Eritrea .or do you see it differently?

        • Germay Berhane

          Selam Said xxx
          It is incredible to hear from some one who has never contributed something to his country except his dirty mouth and pen demonizing and insulting to those who paid their whole life to serve their people and country.
          You are right I was once refugee but thanks to heroic fighters under the leadership PIA now I am not stateless or refugee. I have country and identity.
          Eritrea is passing through difficult times but it is defeating all its obstacles marching forward for better future for its citizens and I am confident everything will go in the right direction taking in consideration the experienced of armed struggle.
          My question to you if you believe there is serious human rights violations in Eritrea and you are not content to live in diaspora why don’t you come and sacrifice for “good” of your people? Why don’t you try to remove this “serious” problem when you have the support of the majority? Are you ready to serve your people even for one day in the remote desert of Dankalia and Barka?
          Please don’t be obstacle to those who are building protecting their country by your dirty pen and mouth.Struggle never goes by remote control.

          • said

            Selam
            Germay Berhane
            I don’t know you , nor do I care about you being regime supporter or working for them . you don’t know nothing about me. stopping cooking stereotypes about me. you better you leave this aside . your verb descriptions of me bad mouthing, nothing new , you are at it again ,it shows it your habit and you were well schooled and we have enough uwala and oskuniess person back home, I have seeing thousands like you. ,try not to imitate them. Your kind of insult overwrought bad vocabulary used to be found almost entirely with drunk people and ousknees of Asmara .But you are forgiving if you write when you are intoxicated ,awate should make the expiation for you . learn how to stay away you’re your dumbed-down and overblown language to insult your fellow Eritrean who do not agree with you ,it seem you have PHD in words like trashing, bashing, lashing at your opponent ,you are doing a good job in japing and seems to have taken a leaf from IA. You continue to play these assigned role. Hate those who hate the regime .You know when write at this forum “Words matter.” and civility matter . stop being influenced by your hate-monger. I don’t take you seriously? It is expected from some one like you ,you have a role to paly.
            what upset you in what I wrote ,can you make one quotation. I often write long But I do hope that should you have read carefully this far, you will recall that I didn’t use a single insulting word and expletive and unlike you

            You know how good is IA ,he excels in ripping, tearing into, pounding insulating ,belittling, smashing and squashing his comrades ,if that do not work ,next time they disappear. By the way Eritrea existence and independence is not threatened, Ask PM Abiy ? no more hostility. do you want closer economic ties with Ethiopia during IA and Abiy time. Or do think Sudan economic interests runs deeper with Eritrea? No neighbouring countries country has the offensive war machine to invade Eritrea .Ask Djibouti PM. Eritrean are waiting for dividend of peace ?starting with freeing all prisoners of conscious .Do agree ?You seems oblivious to the changing dynamics of today’s world and advancement , as if you are ’living on a different planet. Still stack with your oppressive IA regime . you can seriously examine the failure of the country ,can you mention few good things .Can you make analysis. A more honest and balanced review of the regime
            Even if it is one-sided? How about that.it is fair . But stay away from Exaggerations, misleading , misinterpretations, a real skewed observations, and plain lies. I have no way to verify I am not asking you that PFDJ should be dissolved and dismantled as quickly as possible. An need to hold them accountable.
            Is good to know you survived and made it and you become citizen of western world with your right protected. Besides, haven’t you been through enough problem to make it all the way and I am happy for you . You know thousand perished and they did not make to shore like you. You have heard the heart-wrenching stories .do you know the numbers of deaths in faraway places barely noted by you, does it something like that some time to upset, or you just shrug it. as mentioned above ,I addressed it. do you happen to know their grievance. .did you support those who are most vulnerable in such grievous moments? Your kind heat “reflection.” Is need.

            You adored Nus totalitarianism. Those young Eritrean leaving county , mired in war , violence, chaos and poverty? But unfortunately, Your IA conducted merciless persecution of all kind , forcing thousands to flee Eritrea . In which no laws bind your boss ,or is there written law? Your love for tyranny is limit less . some Eritrea are were happier to leave an oppressive country and without economic freedoms., they want a democratic order. they have unpleasant memories, leaving behind bitter memories of cruelty and state oppression..(do you share that view). as stubborn loyalist and unwilling to dilute your faith in IA. do you blame them.,

            You asked me (Are you ready to serve your people even for One Day in the remote desert of Dankalia and Barka?) You asked good question . time to spend in Barka to report in their situation .do you think those refuge from Barak first should return from Sudanese refuge comp and for those desert desolate people of Dankalia their fishing boat should return to them ,to make a living, confiscated by the regime .do you agree, can you lend your voice form far away
            Do want me helping our people salvage what they can and providing essential supplies, already-limited resources.’ Despite these depredations .or do you simple you want me to test the misery and be a witness As for me it is deadly, and absolutely terrifying? Hundred of thousand have fled Eritrea , with all the attendant horror, grief, personal loss, and you are asking me to go back to serve in salve conditions and why don’t you go back and tell us if Eritrea is paradise in earth or hell or in between. by the way I don’t expect from you to answer any of my question.

            This kind of introspection is not your cup of tea with extra sugar .do not get me wrong i love tea ,I can suggest few top brand . at least you are prone not “forget” your homeland and like some Eritrean are happily assimilate into the dominant Anglo or western culture. You re still subservient to political forces (the boss IA) Thumbs up for you.
            Everyone else is losing badly if they stay in Eritrea to put mildly . beside being true Diehard and you re quite blind and content with the current dire miserable situation and you do not want democracy and liberty and you do not want repressive state to change. Beside does not touch you directly . what do believe and you stand for politically .Do you believe in democracy, rule of law , human rights, free speech and free press ,even junk journalism. That ain’t good news.

            From your last visit to Eritrea did hear from people complaining about lack of service in health sector and their could not attain higher education with no future hope for the young ,did you notice people complaining about electricity, and drinkable water.

          • Germay Berhane

            Selam Said,
            I wounder it is HALLAL for you to demonize insult the President of Eritrean and those who follow him. And it is HARRAM for us to describe your picture. I use the right words to describe your mentality, I am born from decent family and I am doing my share in my community and every where I go in decency. Owala Owala KBLEKA KELO GN YGERMEKA.
            I have asked you to come to sacrifice for the things you stand. Sacrifice is to give your life for the sake what you believe. Cowards will not do that, they hide behind computer and send venom to the society. You are one of the students of Weyane who are standing to invalidate history of Eritrea.
            Migration is international phenomena which does not differentiate how countries are democratic and marching in economic development. Look at India one of the democratic countries in the world and moving forward to become world economic power. But its citizens has never stopped to emigrate to Canada, USA,Europe and the Middle east. Look at Ethiopia during the Weyane period how Ethiopians swarmed Sudan and Saudi Arabia, beside those who traveled to Europe and America. Look at Europeans especially from east they are immigrating to Uk, Canada and USA.
            Our youth were cheated by the people like you who advertise bad of their country in collaboration with Weyane and other international forces urging them to leave their country.
            You are still advertising non existent propaganda like the one you mentioned Eritrean government is not allowing fishermen to do their job in Denkel. To the contrary what you preaching the government is empowering fishermen with boats and other fishing materials.
            Scarcity of water and electricity is one of major challenges of third world. Eritrea is doing good job to solve this problems, but you like to send misinformation business usual based on old story.
            You are not aware what the international community has done by authorizing the aggression of Weyane and continued to sanction this beloved country. Had this happened to other countries they might collapse with in months. That was the dream of our enemies including you. Look at Tigray they were not able to survive for month the whole state went hungry.
            Democracy and other related to it will flourish very soon.
            I urge to follow official TV news and follow how our youth being engineers, doctors lawyers are controlling and building their country.

          • NewDawn

            Selam Germay Berhane, No offense why are you here. I think you belong in tesfanews.

          • Barolle

            Selam NewDawn,

            The fact that he is here is great for many reasons. Everyone patting each other on the back doesn’t lead to the most fruitful conversations that engages the readers to think objectively.

            Also, it increases the amount of visitors to the site, because there’s excitement in opposing views clashing.

          • NewDawn

            Selam Barolle, That is a good perspective. But Nonetheless this is an opposition website. No need to debate with Pfdj supporters, better to just avoid them its a waste of energy (speaking from experience). Its hard to even see them as Eritreans.

            Look at how he trivialises the mass emptying out of our productive youth and puts the blame on to others. Completely absolving Pfdj and its sadistic rule. Reminds me of Rahel Woldeab a government supporter that resides in the west who went on aljazeera and said eritreans are leaving for a pair of Jordans and Ipad ( In their mind Indefinite national service doesnt exist in eritrea). These people will have a hard time returning post-isaias , i will make it one of my life goals.

          • Brhan

            Hello NewDawn,
            The fact people like Girmay are coming to awate website because it is only here they can say what is in their mind. They can’t find it in their circles, i.e. PF(DJ) where they operate like robots. A PF(DJ) cadre controls them what they can say or not.
            For his personal attack, he is warned by the moderator and I believe he will think twice next time.

          • Barolle

            Selam NewDawn,

            Yes, it is an opposition website and also a place of different views coming together. Both in good and bad ways. Most public figures here are probably used to giving and receiving a jab or two.

            What I mean to say is, the discussions taking place can be entertaining as well as educational and informative.

            I don’t belong to any sides personally. I only want to se Eritreas betterment.

          • Nitricc

            The fact that he is here is great for many reasons. Everyone patting each other on the back doesn’t lead to the most fruitful conversations that engages the readers to think objectively.

            Amen to that Sir! i have been saying that for years but people are very comfortable with the group thinking. Not useful at all. At the end of the day, one day you will face someone who doesn’t agree with you if you going to have a meaningful life.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Barolle. You are quite correct especially when one remembers that perhaps 80% of this rooms’ commenters, no so long ago, were clearly digital TPLF. Once the TPLF bit the dust this room suddenly became abnormally quiet and no longer was everyone addressed as Doctor or Professor. Why should people now complain about the presence of PFDJ supporters whilst they were before silent in the presence of TPLF supporters?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Dongolo; can you imagine had the TPLF plan succeeded and overthrew PMAA and went on to face PIA and Eritrea? it turns out to take 17 days to destroy the mighty TPLF army. i think they earned a place on the record book by retreating 700 k.m in 17 days. Hi Dengolo, I see the work started rebuilding and refreshing Asmara. The Time has arrived!!

          • Dongolo

            Selam Nitricc. The Mighty Mouse TPLF in the end turned out to be a Mini Mouse outfit out of touch with reality. Sudden Eritrean opposition talk of a Unity Government in Exile (after such effort failed miserably 20 years ago) signal that an opposition strategy to march into Eritrea on the back of the TPLF is now completely dead. Great to hear some good news coming out of Asmara these days.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Dengolo; Eritrea just started the journey of peace and tranquility. There is a lot of thing going on currently, that is very positive. I am going to share time permitting. However; i have a question for you. When the Tigryans,TMH, and the worthless so-called Eritreans say ” TIGRAY TiEWT” what exactly are they saying. I am not joking, What does it mean. Their army is gone. their leadership are wiped out, they infrastructures are turned to ashes, their identity, pride and self-worth basically erased. However; they keep saying TIGRAY TIEWET” I am lost, can you help.

          • Barolle

            Selam Dongolo,

            Since the dust have settled how about we talk about our similarities, because the issues had to do with their leadership. Preserving the Tigringa language and customs is of value to us both for instance.

            Can Ethiopia get back to being one of the fastest growing economies in the world?

            Can the Ethiopian ethnic groups come to an understanding and build bridges, or will this war lead to radicalisation and in turn lead to sporadic attacks in Ethiopia, or against Eritreans in Ethiopia? Some reports if it happening already.

            Is the ethnic profiling taking place in Ethiopia making Tigrayans feel less Ethiopian? What is the solution?

            Could an independent Tigray happen? As in Tigray as a sovereign nation.

            What about Abay Eritrea?

            The last part is a bad joke I mention to the Abay Tigray supporters, but you never know.

            P.S. Everything in moderation, including moderation. 🙂

          • Nitricc

            Hi Barolle; till Dongolo gets to you

            * The only way for Tigryans to be independent of Ethiopia is to join Eritrea with federation and for Eritrea to be Abay Eritrea is to allow Tigray to join her. On both cases, I don’t see it any of it to materialize.
            *The Tigryans were above the rest of the Ethiopians. The Ethiopians woke up, and asked the Tigryans to come down and be equal, the Tigryans felt so, insulted and they hatched an incredible great plan to show the world and most importantly to the Ethiopians, they took these unimaginable steps to secure their superiority. Then and then they found themselves in the bottom and below all of the Ethiopians. In brief, the air is out of Tigryans tire. All you got to do is, listen to latest Sye’s interview, his message? “let’s work to minimize out numbers of enemies”

            *Ethiopia will never be the same. I don’t know how it is going to be or look but never like before. I do believe Ethiopian economy can even better than it has been and yes, it will do fantastic economically.
            *“will this war lead to radicalisation and in turn lead to sporadic attacks in Ethiopia, or against Eritreans in Ethiopia?
            Not for long. War, and sporadic attack needs a corridor for supply and logistics. TPLF doesn’t have that, so, once they use what they have and then all will come to silence and to the end.

          • Barolle

            Hello Nitricc,

            I agree with your assessment. Ethiopia won’t be the same.

            That said, the Tigrayans being treated as second class citizens, prior to them the Oromos, will certainly hinder Ethiopias development. How will the economy grow with a shadow over the country?

            What about the rumored 50 000 soldiers hiding in the mountains? Is there some truth to it?

            The risk of letting Tigray go is that the other ethnic groups would want to leave too. Other than that it would perhaps benefit the region as a whole, if there is no mending the horrific situation that is.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Barolle:
            * You are right about the Oromo and Tigryans but remember once there is a good economy and fair social justice among each Ethiopians, I do believe the ethnic tensions will be lessened. Just like in here in the US, no matter how the leaders are bad as long as the economy is good, they are good. And I do believe Ethiopia will agree in to some form of win-win situation deal with Eritrea just to use the port Assab. For instance; Right now Ethiopia is paying billion of dollars to use the port in Djibouti, yet if Ethiopia use Assab and pay in birr, that is huge relief of hard currency for Ethiopia. At the same Time if Eritrea get electricity and other goods from Ethiopia by paying in Birr, they both freed from the crunch of hard currency. I have no evidence or any researched subject on this matter but I am just saying my prediction.
            * They can hide all they want but at the end of the day, they have to eat, refill their magazines, they need medical accesses. They have two choices, one die or give up to the federal government. The whole thing is messed up. TPLF didn’t think this war will turn this way and they never prepared for it and they paid the ultimate price. Slice it in every way you want but the Tigray thing a lost cause. They will have extremely difficult times to live and integrate with rest of Ethiopia.
            * All kilills threatens to secede and disaffiliate from Ethiopia but deep inside every killil knows and wants one Ethiopia. Case in point, Tigray had almost three amble years to execute article 39, why didn’t they? Because there is no where to go. They hopped that the Agazian movement will take off and do something with Eritrea that was dead and there was nothing they can do but to try desperately what they have done to go back to Addis. I think what is good for the government of Ethiopia is that if the government can eliminate the likes of TPLF in three weeks, what can the government do against rest of weak killils? So, the rest will behave. Of course, Eritrea not only saved Ethiopia but the horn Africa. All you got to analyze is what if TPLF had succeeded?

          • Abi

            Hello General
            The 300 MW electric power I promised you is still on the table.
            Let me know if you need more.
            Time to turn the lights on!!!

          • Barolle

            Hey Abi,

            The lights have always been on. 😉

            Jokes aside, I find it surprising that there isn’t any affirmative plans for stability after the aftermath of the war. One can say you’re still in war, but surely no sane person wants innocents to perish on either side and nor will it help Ethiopia progress. Regression is the only possible outcome.

          • Abi

            Hello Barolle
            I strongly disagree with your analysis and conclusion.
            It is time to turn the searchlights on Eritrean issues at Awatenation.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Abo,

            “I think all attention should be on Eritrean issues.”

            Keep commenting please. None from us oppose you for debating an Eritrean issue. I inform you and Awate team is for reconciliation. I am expecting to see people like Horizon to come and participate.

            KS,,

          • Barolle

            Hey Abi,

            You as an Ethiopian have been meddling in Eritrean affairs for years just by being present in this forum, so be fair. It is no secret that I am against TPLF, but this is becoming an ethnic issue and that is unacceptable. Talked to someone in Addis who didn’t dare talk Tigringa in crowded places.

          • Abi

            Hello Barolle
            “እቴ በምን ቋንቋ በምን ቃል ላስረዳሽ?” አለ ታምራት ሞላ ግራ ግብት ቢለው::

          • Barolle

            Hey Nitricc,

            Trading resources and developing Eritrea and Ethiopia is great. However, you will have many say ones you let Ethiopians in they won’t leave, and others saying IA is playing AA like a fiddle. Truth of the matter is, no one is strong alone.

            So, if the outcome is that grim for Tigrayans as a whole and not just TPLF, something must be done to alleviate the situation. Is there anything of value when it comes to natural resources in the Tigray region, or better yet what would Ethiopia lose by releasing Tigray? Security is one obvious reason, so anything else besides that.

          • Nitricc

            Hey: One thing needs to be clear is that no matter what Eritrea needs to stay strong for any eventuality, make no mistake about that. To some degree Eritrea’s capability and readiness is proven. Eritrea cannot enter to this kind of arrangements with doubt and indecisiveness. so, staying strong will nugget any ill intention by any country toward Eritrea. There is no other choice out there.
            Having said that, with out sustainable peace with Tigray, i don’t think there much can be accomplished. Although i think the Tigryans had learned very useful lesson this time around. They need to know their place and space in the region. They have no choice but to come to the realty and work for peace. To be honest Ethiopia lose nothing by losing Tigray, in fact Tigray have a lot to lose by losing Ethiopia. I don’t think Tigray have a meaningful thing to add to Ethiopia and Eritrea but they can play very destructive role in the region and with out peace nothing is valuable to the region. The first order of business for Tigryans is to make a peace with themselves, this AYOKA NAYAN and WEY_KE- FETEK delusion going to get them to no where but destruction and humiliations. I think by now they know that.

          • Barolle

            Hi Nitricc,

            Eritrea is known world-wide for its military service, endless military service. One would expect Eritrea to be ready, but being in that ready state does not benefit Eritrea, or Ethiopia.
            What I meant by my last post saying, “no one is strong alone”, is that allies are important.

            Sustainable peace is what is needed. Our region knows peace for a century or less and almost every ethnic group have been taking turn giving and receiving from the end of the stick.

            Indeed, they can play a destructive role. However, that is were leadership plays a part. Excluding an entire ethnic group won’t lead to lasting peace. It will only lead to resentment and radicalisation.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Barolle. May I suggest that you read the book ‘Women in Midlife Crisis’ by Jim and Sally Conway. Their quotes of Erickson and others should sooth you.

          • Barolle

            Hey Dongolo,

            Go ahead and post the quotes you’re mentioning. Also, no need to be cryptic, just spit it out.

            I certainly am able to read between the lines and by the what you’re insinuating, but I rather take you head on. 🙂

          • said

            Selam
            Germay Berhane
            You are entitled to express your opinions as you wish and you are granted as human enable right , you have free will or free agency if you exercise it. I hope you have the ability to live according to the reality perceived by reason. You have an Intellect and the capacity to know the truth from false . There is objective value and objective truth.
            You asked me if it ok to demonize insult the President of Eritrean and those who follow him. .I do know about you as his follower .you are not that important in grand skim. You are not part of the PFDJ elite. Humble yourself ,you are not in the radar ,don’t give yourself any importance ,I don’t give a hoot about you. you are not an issue, as person. Not just me ,but If any one mildly criticizing IA is enough to get people thrown in jail and they will disappear . first you must acknowledge the tragedy of these long list lives lost . Given what you know. Is justice a tangible, achievable goal in Eritrea ? What do you think ?

            May Eritrean feel estrangement and alienation— dislocation in diaspora. Many Eritrean have suffered the pain of exile? They would love to contribute to their nation .but not under the present regime.

            Your standard of comparison to the bottom of nation like Ethiopia and Tigray Province , is how you measure success of nation. .I did not asked about immigration and migrant form this country and that country . Eritrean refugee running away and escaping from the regime is totally different .

            As I said I don’t expect you to answer any of my question . Answering any one of them, will expose your ignorance , call it escapism and nothing of value to say none what so ever .what every you said about IA “It’s an imaginary construct of what the future could be.” Many of IA, his sycophants are stuck trying to make excuses , minimize, redirect and deflect attention from IA 30 years of absolute failure.
            I asked you do believe in democratic values? the rule of law? And reread the rest . Did your IA is alleviating hunger and poverty and creating prosperity and peace . It won’t happen, of course. You could not answer two simple, straightforward questions. I really don’t care if answer or not. It shows where you truly belong as follower and you stay within your confine established for you.

            Eritrean have suffered for 30 years of unbounded mad man ,most powerful dictator, IA with a reputation fondness for cruelty who disparaged everyone in sight he did not like, including his long time comrade and educated competent team of professionals. He is Guilty of his own excesses of violence, he practiced every kind of obscenity, that you have being supporting and adoring an evils, a doddering old dictator .
            Do think killing and murdering innocent Eritrean – is justifiable and justified? Are they guilty. I opposes his cruelty and I criticize IA.
            do you. I care for them, answer to the question by your definition. I wanted to be completely honest about what was going on in Eritrea in your last visit.

            IA regime will not change its behavior after 30 years. it is clearly wishful thinking. You right I write this from my desk from faraway .Do you think I can write from inside Eritrea and criticize IA regime freely?

            You are absolutely false when you say in your statement (You are one of the students of Wayane who are standing to invalidate history of Eritrea.) may be you add I am also for Agazain and Tigray -Tegreny .I have criticized TPLF leadership. just reread again the above, before your leader had honeymoon with TPLF. I also criticized PM Abiy .
            I have no hatred for Tigray nor Ethiopian people . I criticize all 3 tyrant leadership and their failed governments. your criticizing me for being Wayani , are lies and invalid.
            I personally choose to put my focus on the single most inhuman dictator. Obviously TPLF Ethiopia and Abiy Ethiopia, unabsorbed governments are no exception to this rule. But IA is worse, by orders of high magnitude. and therefore bear special responsibility for opposing his regime. I care about our people.
            Kant was that he saw people as an end in themselves not just a means to an end. This means we should recognize people as valuable no matter what, whether or not they prove our assumptions correct.

            A commitment to peace and justice is not negotiable ,or you do not have peace and justice in Tigray and Ethiopia at large . we have to voices ,for those who loves peace and justice. This moment in our region and history is a witness and how we respond to it .

            Either you are not well informed or you lack critical thinking. .You are for war and distraction . You do not understand peace, justice, kindness and compassion for vulnerable people. It is in that understanding of the common good . simply put ,what is good for us is good for others, pitting one against another, human against human, is not acceptable.

            While Tigrayan civilian raging all around, bombed ,crashed ,burned, boiled and thousand died inside their home, before our eyes. catastrophes hanging over Tigray. You remain either uneducated about fact or just misinformed and you are caught-up in the euphoria of the war. you are in state of denialism. You’ve been hoodwinked, exploited and manipulated by Abiy and IA propaganda. wars that is Ethiopian trademark, the ultimate destructive force with its unruled militia . You may base your information on the sensational .empty shallow info-bites of Ethiopian TV And ERA TVpropaganda, they are overly-hyped, overly-staged, which is normal during the war .And masses of people who swallow it. Your concern and feelings for Tigrayan civilian aren’t worth much of anything.

            You are glorifying brute realities of history of IA . you can sing the praises of President-for-Life . A presidents with any academic credentials. Despite the fact I listed for you above. It is your right to support non elected leader’, with your wholehearted and full devotion. Thank for your advise to watch stated owned TV . The only TV information and the propaganda glorifying machine of IA. your ruler for life .they script before they utter them a dispenser of fake news . I am not ever going to beat the overwhelming propaganda against it. give me a break I do not want be indoctrinated , it feels you are preaching the holy book to me. Stop spreading disinformation and stop denying an obvious truth. And making stuff up. What’s the point of arguing with someone who will say up is down . how do you argue with someone talking such utter nonsense? getting into an argument with someone so clearly unhinged. Who needs facts when you have lies. don’t believe your lying eyes” what do say some American still glorifying the Ku Klux Klan, the Nazis and the fascist,

            Your statement to follow how our youth being Engineers, Doctors ,Lawyers are controlling and building their country, are this Engineers, Doctors ,Lawyers ,are news to me ,you are dreaming of a different reality, feel-good myths, . You must be talking about another country . “It’s an imaginary construct of what the future could be .”that is not bad, in search for an alternative future. Eritrea has no institutions, Let alone one university to name. It is ridiculous, and so obviously untrue and it is hard to even know where to begin to respond to you.

            Much of my still-functioning moral code, that instilled the desire to be good human and not a villain. It was drawn from Eritrean heritage and a good culture worthy of respect and preservation.

          • Germay Berhane

            Selam Saleh, Said,
            Dear Saleh I would like to thank you for the chance you give me to express my view in this room. I want to assure you what I write and say is credible which I can defend and say it again.
            Eritrea priority during the last 22 years was upholding national security and food security to its citizens. The number one security threat to Eritrea was Weyane and any one who stands in any form with this group is part and parcel of it even he was opposing it before.
            The current war is not against Tigray people. And no one will support the suffering of the Tigray people. To those who are saying they have seen by their eyes let them prove and show us their pictures where and when and how many.
            For the other things Said mentioned no need answer, our answer is GAME OVER is not only to Weyane to includes to all Eritreans who support the case of this criminal group in the name of Tigray people. Eritrea is born again for the third time under the leadership and father of the nation President Issayas Afowerki and it will march forward peaceful and prosperous.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam GB,

            For a cultist there is no way to convince him, but in case…….read the excerpts and listen to the clip.

            https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/26/africa/ethiopia-tigray-dengelat-massacre-intl/index.html

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I don’t understand why you brought the already debunked fake stories.
            https://youtu.be/fgTThUxHQho

            Try to focus on Eritrean issues for a change.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            If our brothers and sisters are dying in the Ethnic war of Ethiopia, then it naturally becomes an Eritrean issue. The article itself is about Eritreans.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            My advise for you is to check the validity of the news before you bring it to the Awatenation residents and visitors.
            You made a fool of yourself. I hate it when you make unforced errors one after the other.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            You will have to see more on way coming . We told you prewar days that the end will this and you will have to accept it now..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮብዬ
            https://youtu.be/3PJSmjnVbsE

            Always happy to share nice music with you.
            I love you too.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            I love you too. But when comes to politics I want you to be from the correct side.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮብዬ
            እስቲ ይህን ምርጥ ዘፈን ለፍቅር ማጠናከሪያ ጀባ ልበልህ:: በጣም የምወዳት ዘፋኝ ናት::
            https://youtu.be/ICrZoRVX1OM

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            The story and the clip is not a report from me. It is CNN report that actually validate the reports from Amnesty International, BBC, Reuters, AP….etc. One who listen to the mouth piece of “his government only” can not find the truth and becomes the victim of lies of his government – like the Trumpian followers.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I know you didn’t make up the story that you generously provided. What I tried but miserably failed to point out to you is that you have to check the validity of the news thingy before you share it. The story has been debunked already.

            If you keep repeating the fake news that is designed and shared by the late Tplf activists without checking them, soon, very soon, you will lose the little credibility left in you.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            If the source is validated by multi sources as I have indicated it earlier, the news is factual. The reason as to why you dislike it, simply because the lies of Abiy are exposed. If you don’t believe it listen to Lidetu one of your own.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Lidetu is your ally in decimating fake news. He has always been like that throughout his miserable life. Lidetu is the last person l would like to associate with.
            I just showed you the Boston guy pretending to be a priest from Tigray.
            Anyway, you have got all the rights to believe in whatever news that make your day a little more brighter. Sharing them here is insulting your readers. Awatenation has plenty professors and doctors to fill all the positions in an elite university.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            What are your source of info if all the reputable news outlet are fake for you?

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኣባ ትልቁ፡

            በቪድየው ቄስ ተብሎ የሚታይ
            ኣይደለ እንዴት ባለ ችሎታ ተዋናይ

            የናንተ ኣምላክ የኛ ኣይደለም ኣሉ፡ ብሎም ተናገረ
            ቤተ ክርስትያን ደም ቀቡት፡ መርጠው፡ መቅባቱ ካልቀረ

            በተቃረበበት ታላቁ ጾም
            መስቀሉን በከሉት በደም

            መስቀል ምልክተ መሓሪ
            መሣርያ ሆነ ቀረ የመሰሪ

          • Abi

            ሊቀመኳስ
            Until I get back to you with an appropriate response, I leave you with the following ጥቅስ ከታላቁ መፅሐፍ
            2 Peter 2:1
            But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who brought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

            ምእመናን አሜን በሉ!!!

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H, this piece of news seems to be with a lot of untrue reportings. Please observe the following facts first:
            1) on Maryam Dengelat: “On 24 March 2019, for the first time in more than 400 years, priests were able to celebrate a mass in the church, after having climbed 30 meters”, see: “The reopening and re-consecration of a once inaccessible church”.
            A lot of fallacy in the video from the above reality context.
            1.1) the mass grave discussed in the video and the mass shooting described (about the 20 kids) is not in this locality. (Check the pictures carefully). Further, If you look at the satellite image it would blow up your mind.
            2) the other simple question is why should an eritrean officer order to kill their own “extended families” some of whom are as close related as having grand parents or closer ties.
            3) on the mark around 5:20 the lady was speaking not truthfully, a lot of lies.
            4) it is further stated in the report: “A group of Eritrean soldiers opened fire on Maryam Dengelat church while hundreds of congregants were celebrating mass, eyewitnesses say.”
            4.1) now, knowing the reality on the ground, ( a church on a cliff 30 meters high), the above statement is totally a mismatch and wrong.
            4.2) one have to ask a simple question what type of business would a military man do on a 30 meters high abandoned church? It is remote and no relevant logistics or military center there. Very unlikely, that an eritrean commander would do this.
            5) the report is talking about streets, roads, and shows shoes of the killed ones; which all seems an unlikely matter– knowing it is a remote locality and the purchasing power of the people living and working there is low.

            Dear Amanuel, a grain of intelectual curiosity would avoid a disaster, before cross referencing.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Mez,

            This is the work of 6 reporters and 5 camera men of CNN, from the conflict areas. But A brilliant prof from thousands miles away have tried to disprove the report without any “references” to disprove it. It is“a lie” and it is “fake” are not argument in themselves. “Cross reference” without references can’t be cross reference. you are denying the plight of the Tigray people.

            Second, it is not “news item” it is “news items” from different part of the Tigray region as reported. They were interviewing different people who fled from different areas such as edaga Hamus, Mariam Tsion
            Axum)

            Third, you don’t know the nature of war and insurgency. If TPLF withdrew to the mountains then Abiy and Issayas have to go to the mountains to defeat them. Weren’t the Ethiopian army fighting us in the mountains of Sahel?

            Fourth, the ethnic cleansing is not only at Maryam dengelat, but also on the towns and villages on the way to Maryam dengelat.

            Fifth, a grain of intellectual integrity will save your intellectual status.

            Regards

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            1) My message above was to be cautious about the specific news item under discussion. That is still true from my point of view.
            2) in the whole reporting there is a danger of garbage-in-garbage-out.
            3) if one takes your item three “nature of war…” and give a close look, the civilian may be collateral damages in the active engagement of two warring parties; this would be completely new dimension.
            4) I would allow the political wing of tplf to be present in the current and future political life (provided no war crime and it would respect rule of engagement).

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            I will try to respond to two points (2 and 3):-

            One’s GIGO is one’s good source of info based on the values of the debaters. For instance, to kill people, to oppress people, to enslave people are values of some individuals and any info that protect their values are good info. On the other hand there are individuals who have the opposite values. Saving people’s lives, emancipating people, creating a free thinking societies..,etc are their values and are recognized as such. All the info that defend those value are the sites they visit frequently. These info are GIGO to the former group thinking.

            By the way what are your source of info other than the reputable news outlets known for their investigative report like the CNN, NYT, Washington post who brought the crimes of the perpetrators to light, and who knows their report might bring the perpetrators to ICC.

            (2) we are not talking about collateral killing that is given in a war situations. We are talking about the of killing civilians and religious people intentionally by ground force. The world are worried and are calling for independent investigation. We can not hide behind “collateral damage”.

          • Mez

            Good day Amanuel H,

            1) There is generally an experimental design with initial and boundary conditions; as a result almost all of your thoughts regarding GOGO is fundamentally unscientific.
            2) regarding my source, i am not writing a stand alone article; I am rather pointing the shortcomings and benchmark data errors on which the article was based on. See for example the following quote (which is–on Maryam Dengelat–inherently self contradictory):

            “Footage of the 2019 festival shows congregants celebrating outside the church. Credit: Bernadette Gilbertas

            Eyewitnesses said that the festival started much as it had any other year. Footage of the celebrations from 2019 shows priests dressed in white ceremonial robes and crowns, carrying crosses aloft, leading hundreds of people in prayer at Maryam Dengelat church”.

            3) Regarding the civilian death, you are self contradicting.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            You are not bringing new facts to disprove CNN report. Unfortunately your comment becomes repetitive and I hope it is not intentional in order not to dissuade me from engagement.

            Second, I haven’t claim my argument is scientific though I am a student of science. The assessment of news items does not require scientific tools, hence my assessment is based on the tools of political practitioners reading on the lies and denials of the culprits of the crime that are befallen on the Tigray people.

            Third, coverups of crimes and defending perpetrators of crimes are sin, though politicians don’t understand or don’t care about it. At least let us think about it.

            Regards

          • Tensae

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            Since there is no low that you will not lower your self in demonizing Eritrea and in embellishing the moribund TPLF junta, here you are again for the umpteenth time spreading fake news knowing fully well it is fake. While it is your prerogative to think how you would like to be perceived and be remembered, be reminded that spreading lies is no less unforgivable sin than lying itself and for which a hefty price is to be paid. If you ever need evidence for this, the fates of your former heroes like Meles Zenawi, Seyoum Mesfin and Abay Tsehaie would aptly foot the bill. I sincerely hope that the attached link will open your eyes on how the TPLF remnants are wasting their ill-gained wealth in bribing foreign media instead of using it to alleviate the suffering of the people of Tigray in addition to realizing the futility of your misinformation campaign. Enjoy

            https://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=249074

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Tensea,

            Two things:

            1- defending the despot and his enablers is not defending Eritrea.

            2 – Your link has nothing to do with CNN reports.

            The rest of your comment is garbage from the PFDJ store house.

          • Tensae

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat,

            It is very clear by now for anyone who follows you that whenever you are confronted with the truth, you act like a snake that smelled tobacco; first you recoil and then you hyperventilate. This being the case, you can’t even spell my name properly let alone try to address the issues I raised. My question to you, first and foremost is, why do relegate yourself to recycling fake news when you can discuss serious issues? Is it because you have run out of ideas or is it is because your blind loyalty to the TPLF would not permit you to do otherwise? Since I cannot expect a clear answer from you on this, let me deconstruct some of your distorted thinking using the points you raised:

            1.You said “defending the despot and his enablers is not defending Eritrea.”

            Defending Eritrea and defending the leadership are two different things. Whenever you attack Eritrea, under the guise of attacking the leadership, you can rest assured that you will get many blows from concerned Eritreans and conscientious Ethiopians alike.

            2. You also said “Your link has nothing to do with CNN reports.”

            If you don’t see a conflict of interest in CNN spreading false claims while receiving advertising money from the same elements who are feeding it with the false news, then that says a lot about you.

            3- You added “You are a typical PFDJ sycophant who characterize foreign reporters as bribed reporters. NYT, Washington Post, BBC, Reuters, AP, Amnesty International have reported similar reports.”

            This clearly illustrates your myopic linear thinking that because you are a sycophant of the TPLF that everyone who opposes you must be a sycophant of someone else. Has it occurred to you that there are many Eritreans who unlike you are independent thinkers who evaluate things on their merit without having to be puppets of others? As for the Western Media that you mentioned, they are all the mouth pieces of their governments in general and their intelligence agents such as CIA and MI5 in particular.

            Finally, although I know you impervious to constructive criticism and suggestions, let me offer you this parting advice: please stop wasting your time in reviving a dead horse namely TPLF and instead look for a worthy cause.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Tensea,

            Ah! If the way I spelled your name can piss off, I will continue to address you in the same way. After all it is a pen name (fake name) you use to abuse people. No one from PFDJ groupie in this form are real names.

            Second, PFDJ sycophants are rude by nature to debate decently like human being – so you are.

            Third, a brainwashed sycophant can not interact with rationality and pure knowledge as your brain is controlled by your demigod even from far by a remote control. It is to such extent your mind is manipulated to his servitude and to dispense his order for his pleasure.

            Fourth the link you brought is photoshopped info from the center of PFDJ propaganda machine. You keep it for yourself until the struggle untangle you from that trap.

            Fifth, the reason I relegated your question is simply because, like the Trumpian followers the PFDJ followers don’t possess an acute mind to differentiate between “real news” and “fake news.”

            Sixth, the story of CNN is already substantiated by NYT, Washington post, Reuters, AP major news outlets. I know you are worrying about the fate of your demigod. My advice to you is don’t try to attach your fate with him, because we see you as victim of the devil, who can’t operate without a decision that comes from the top, even to run your private life.

            Seventh, wether the western media serve or not to CIA or M15, what it matters in our discussion is wether the news disseminated are true or false. In this case all the news outlet collaborated each other to expose the crimes of the perpetrators on the people of Tigray. They are calling for to save humanity.

            Lastly, pls keep coming. You are making my day by showing your wickedness thereby helps me to make my point.

            Regards

          • Tensae

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            (or should I say Manuela or Wedi Hidrtna?),

            Since you are very predictable in your serpentine behavior, you did not disappoint in waking up from your slumber and start to hyperventilate and spew your venom in all directions. Since by your own admission you seem to enjoy my line of reasoning, let me oblige and give you some more. My only concern in doing so in the words of Paulo Coelho is, “don’t argue with a fool, for people watching may not be able to tell the difference”. Indeed I feel like I am taking risk and wasting time in arguing with a fool that neither life experience nor old age has tampered with. I hope forum members will forgive me for engaging you on more time.

            First thing first: since you are fond of accusing anyone who disagrees with you as a PFDJ member with the hope that others will come to your rescue according to the herd mentality principle, let me make it clear to you that I am a product of the ELF who made a modest contribution for the national cause and fought along with many heroes and heroines that you can only dream of. On the other hand, it is no secret that you spent almost your entire Ghedli years in Sudan, unable to visit ELF liberated places for fear of being harmed. But if I were to choose between being a PFDJ member or a treasonous TPLF worshipper, there is no doubt that I will choose the former ten times out of ten.

            In equating PFDJ members with Trump followers, although you were trying to score points, you end up exposing your ignorance and hypocrisy. Whether one agrees with their political ideology or not, both the PFDJ and the Trump camp deliver on almost everything if not all they promised to their constituents. In other words, they are doers while you and your like arm chair analysts and paper tigers are waiting for others to do your bidding.

            As for the international media bias against Eritrea, it is a result of many factors some of which has to do with history. It is no secret that the TPLF had squandered a large amount of the money that it stole from the Ethiopian people in buying favors with the media. Not to worry though, for at the end of the day, they have no choice but to come back to their senses when they realize that the TPLF is no more. The good thing in all this is that the backbone of the evil Junta is broken once and for all and it will never be in a position to threaten the Eritrea state again seriously.

            Finally, please keep on spreading fake news, fully aware that there is nothing else you can contribute. Speaking of fake news, please enjoy the link below.

            https://www.facebook.com/e58cf964-cbbf-4a4d-908b-c29713c25acb

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Tunsae,

            The Noble Prize winner in economics, Paul Krugman has authored a book titled “Arguing with Zombies”. The book has given me an insight how to argue with the zombies like yourself. It gives you tools how to manipulate zombies to walk up from their somber sleep and convert them to sensible souls. Curse him if you find the exercise painful.

            Now back to your comment: Being an ex-ELFites can not exonerate you from being a PFDJ-NNNN elites who defend the despot day in day out and go after the Eritreans to intimidate them who oppose your demigod. Read it again what you have said to me, that I will pay a “hefty price” for exposing the lies you uttered shamelessly to this forum. There are many ELF converts like yourself who become the instrument of the despot who are contributing in the oppression and suffocation of the Eritrean people. Check your hand before you utter next.

            Second, tegadelti give services to the cause where they are assigned by their leadership. And I know if you were tegadaly of ELF you were not assigned on the department of your choice. So why are you talking such childish things I don’t know. But then Krugman’s book flashback to my memory that I am talking with ..,,,.fill up the blank.

            Third, Trump’s and PFDJ’s followers don’t have any kind of ideology whatsoever. Many of Trump’s followers who are caught in the mob attack of Capitol Hill came because Trump has told them so. The same with the PFDJ-NNNN. They are not doing on ideological basis, but they doing what they are told by their demigod. Tell me what the ideology of Issayas and his government?

            Third, “TPLF can buy” all the measure news outlet including CNN, NYT, WP, BBC, Reuters to fabricate the news is an outlandish lies. You can only tell this to NNNN groupie who can take it as is. No traction in this website for such outlandish lie. Beside don’t insert history of the international communities once they have recognized us as sovereign state – a history that found its conclusion. It Irrelevant history for irrelevant arguments.

            Fourth, TPLF were not and are not suffocating our people, but PFDJ are. PFDJ is governing the Eritrean people not TPLF. TPLF and PFDJ were friends and were scratching each other’s back to conduct unholy wars before they become archenemy behind the border issue. The war between TPLF and PFDJ is not the war between the Eritrean people and the Tigray people. It was the war of their leaders and their followers each using the war for staying in their power. Any explanation out of this is “resemblance judgements”(ጦብላሕታዊ ፍርዲ) and won’t be empirical judgement. So Tunsae, I abhor both organizations on their war footing, though I appreciate TPLF for giving shelters to our young who fled from modern slavery in their own country. Credit is given when it is due.

            Lastly, please keep spreading lies to make me active in exposing them and will never stop from poking you to bring those lies. Have a good one till then.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            You said ,
            “The war between TPLF and PFDJ is not the war between the Eritrean people and the Tigray people. It was the war between the two leaders each using the war for staying in the helm of power. Any explanation out of this is “resemblance judgments”( ጦብላሕታዊ ፍርዲ) and won’t be empirical judgment.”

            My confusion is why you called Meles “Visionary” if he used the devastating war to stay in power?
            Can I safely conclude that your judgment is ጦብላሕታዊ ፍርዲ?
            Can I also call Isaias Afeworki Visionary instead of Tyranny based on your argument?
            If both leaders used the same tactics ( a devastating war in this instance), I believe, you should call both of them Tyrants unless you were expecting Meles’ tanks to get you to the promised land.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abiy,

            The paragraph you quote me is referring on the current war of “ethnic cleansing” by Abiy, Issayas, and the Amara militia lead by the Derg remnants.

            Meles was a visionary for Ethiopia, and look now Ethiopia on the verge of disintegration. The Amara killing the Tigrians and the Oromo killing the Amaras. Meles objected the war with his vote in the “parliamentary power”- the branch of government that has the power to declare a war based on your constitution. That is the fact and that is in the history book. Unfortunately, Ethiopia can not find a leader like him (at least in the near future), who put Ethiopia in a respectful positioning the world, be it in economic development or international diplomacy. Now you become the laughing stock in the international community. Rather talking nonsense, think and pray for your country how it could come out from the verge of disintegration and perpetual ethnic cleansing.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Let me try again.
            This is what you said just before the statement I quoted earlier.
            You said ,
            “ As a matter of fact TPLF and PFDJ were friends, and were scratching each other’s back to conduct unholy wars , before they become archenemy behind the border issue. “
            You continued….
            It was the war between the two leaders each using the war for staying in the helm of power “.

            Here, you have clearly stated that you were talking about the border war. Nowhere in your above comment the current war was mentioned.
            I am eagerly looking forward for your response.
            Thanks

          • Dongolo

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat. You repeatedly criticize those that use pen names. In this regard, could you kindly enlighten us of the full and real name of Dr. Paulos?

          • Germay Berhane

            Selam Amanuel
            Pls grow up. Come out from hatred politics. You can disagree on administration and other internal matters. But because you hate PIA it is great sin to stand against your country.
            I watch daily Tigray TV daily almost one and half ours daily. I follow what the adminstration like Abrha Desta say and the people of Tigray say. No one even this crooked Abrha Desta said what you telling us.
            We know how these fake news struggled to criminalized our country.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam GB,

            To criminalize rogue regime is not to criminalize a country. Regimes come and go. This is basic political and legal linkages and applications. Take it as a class for today.

          • Germay Berhane

            This shows how naive you are. You have to understand before you criminalize leaders you will lose your country.

          • saay7

            Germay:

            Begin your post with salutation

            Horse before carriage.

            It’s Isaias who is dissolving my country, and that’s when it’s lost.

            He doesn’t even pretend to hide it from you anymore: his contempt for you is that much.

            By all means return the favor by worshipping him.

            PS: calm down with the language next time: this is not madote or Tesfanews beer house. It’s the Awate University. Shape up or ship out. (It’s in the posting guidelines. I know NNNN are not capable of reading anything not handed to them by their minders, but do give it a try. I am sure if you dig deep enough you may find you are capable of originating thought and now parroting what as been repeated to him.

            saay

          • Germay Berhane

            Do you have country? Find your own country . Continue with your fake university.

          • yoni tech

            Tigrayan about the so called Axum massacre.
            https://www.facebook.com/339716643130848/videos/1393612020977959

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Simply pathetic and shameless it is that the same lot that slept with the TPLF for 20+ years is now trying to coyly exploit the true meaning of bona fide refugee. Members of Eritrean opposition that long received support from the terrorist TPLF and operated freely in Ethiopia, caught with their shorts down to their ankles with their true identities having become public knowledge, now wish to dishonestly seek protection and support under the refugee protection umbrella. They simply need to leave Ethiopia ASAP instead of trying to loiter around and create havoc with approaching election processes. Certainly, their desperate actions further create distrust of Eritrean opposition movements. Instead of wisely distancing yourselves from the TPLF, they wish to attempt to saddle and ride a dead and rotten horse.

    • Saleh Johar

      Dongola,
      Would you consider petitioning the Capo to stop exiling people or you are okay with half the Eritrean population exiled, and adding more of them by the day?

      • Dongolo

        Selam Saleh Johar. Do you think that if any American who did not like President Rosevelt during WWII and chose to travel to Germany to sleep and receive support from the Nazis, would have been considered a refugee after the collapse of the Fuhrer? Bona fide Eritrean refugees are a completely separate matter from those in the Eritrean opposition who wrongly chose to support/receive support from the TPLF and who remain in Ethiopia for ulterior motives or are in hiding for they have aid and abetted terrorists.

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Dongolo,

          Let me tell you from an Ethiopian point of view. Practically anybody is entitled to live in Ethiopia provided that you don’t represent a national threat. And if you want to wage a war with their neighboring countries you would not do so with/out permission for it simply means against conventions. You can oppose anybody and anyone you want but inciting hate and violence is not tolerated.

          The problem with Eritreans (Tigrayans are also in the same mould) is that they are a very insular people and do not participate that much in local communities. Sadly the region is plagued with lack of respect to one another as such you have to be on your toes all the time to avoid getting into their politics. I don’t mean that in a lighter way because most Ethiopians carry too much pain because of Eritrea. You wouldn’t find a family that didn’t pay a price for the Eritrean cause. So one slip up and you are practically done! And if you are all the above then I advise you not to go there!

        • Saleh Johar

          Dongolo,
          You don’t have to go to the Nazi times to make a point. But I will refresh your mind. We are no more in the League of Nations, but the United Nations era. As you might know, all the conventions, agreements and protocols were designed for the post Nazism and Fascism period. As such, you cannot justify injustices of the past is the modern world reality. If you live in Germany, Would you like to be tried according to the Nazi laws? I am sure you would prefer the laws of this time. Wish for others what you wish for yourself. By the way, are you a refugee or have you ever been one? Reflect on that before you pass cruel judgements.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Saleh Johar. Refugee related agreements, conventions and protocols hardly protect those who have committed treason and aid and abetted terrorists. To complicate matters, most Eritrean opposition members who have aid & abetted the TPLF and who remain in Ethiopia, have U.S., E.U. or other citizenship/passports, so even the matter of political asylum becomes a rather moot issue. By the way, it was the League of Nations that defined refugees in terms of specific groups of people who were judged to be in danger if they returned to their home countries and set up the foundations of what would become the International Refugee Organization.

  • Abi

    Hello Awatenation
    Why should Ethiopia host Eritrean opposition?
    It is time Eritrean opposition read the current situation and leave Ethiopia or cease their activities . Ethiopians are so grateful for the generous help provided by President Isaias during the difficult times when the Ethiopian army was attacked by the late Tplf. His Excellency President Isaias stood with Ethiopians in the darkest days. He stood with Ethiopia against Egypt and Sudan.
    He is the 21st Century ሞገስ አስገዶም, አብረሃ ደቦጭ, ዘርዓይ ድረስ…
    The Ethiopian Government and the general public allowing Eritrean opposition to operate in Ethiopia is not only stupid but outright betrayal of president Isaias and Eritreans in general.
    Ethiopia should choose between President Isaias and the Eritrean opposition.
    “ሁለት እግር አለኝ ተብሎ ሁለት ዛፍ ላይ በአንድ ጊዜ አይወጣም”

    • no one

      Selam Satenaw

      Now you get it. He is 21st Century Belay Zeleke. Do not give him the name of Eritrean hero. We do not want him please take him he will be 21st Century Tewodros and save you from Sudan.

      • Abi

        ሰላም ጆቢራው!
        In due time we will take him back including his properties . We will crown him አፄ አፎም::
        ኢትዮጵያን የሚታደግ ኤርትራዊ በየዘመኑ ብቅ ማለቱ አይቀርም::

        Sudan?
        በስመአብ!!
        “አባይ ሞልቶ ጣና ሞልቶ እሳት ይዞረዋል
        ይጠፋታል እንጂ መች ይሻገረዋል!’

    • Saleh Johar

      Abi,
      We all belong to one world and countries are signatories of world protocols and agreements. Protecting refugees is the responsibility of all “civilized “nations. We can’t be suppliers of refugees only but we have an obligations towards them when they show up in our countries. There are millions of refugees in the world, including Ethiopians, and I don’t think you would encourage the harassment and mistreatments of your compatriots who live as refugees in every corner of the world—including Sudan. I could be wrong but that is how I think it should be seen

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Saleh
        Protecting refugees is not only morally right, it is an obligation by the host country. However, political activists who can cause unnecessary confrontation between the two countries should be banned.
        When it comes to Eritrean opposition activists in Ethiopia, I believe they have wasted numerous opportunities to bring their people together and challenge the government in Asmara during the Tplf reign.
        I don’t think Ethiopia is safe for them anymore.
        You and I have witnessed what Isaias did to his adversaries during the first years of independence. I’ve told a story where I saw an Eritrean restaurant owner on Bole Road taken away by armed men in a broad daylight. I was in the restaurant when this happened.
        Please let us not mix refugees and opposition political activists. I like to see them separately.
        I don’t believe all refugees ( roughly 170,000) are political activists. Here, I’m referring the few political leaders who have wasted their time hopping from Awasa to Bishoftu to Bahir Dar.
        I hope I made myself clear.

        • said

          Selam Abi

          You mentioned that (you saw an Eritrean restaurant owner on Bole Road taken away by armed men in a broad daylight. I was in the restaurant when this happened).I would appreciate if you could elaborate more about the person the owner of the restaurant on Bole Road,I am very keen to know about him .i also happen to know an Eritrean person ,a residence of Addis over 50 years ,he owned a restaurant on Bole Road. he was abducted by EPLF in broad daylight and never to be heard him from. again. I hope you tell us more about him ,if you happen to know.

          • Abi

            Selam said
            I’m sorry The owner’s name escaped me. It is around ቀበርቾ ሬስቶራንት on the right side of the road when you go towards Bole.
            He used to make the best pizza.

          • said

            Selam Abi

            I thank you very much and I appreciate your prompt respond .what you said about him is absolutely is truth and very sad story inded and I also happen to know that fact, as you mentioned . He was never in any politics remotely . I also happen to know owner’s of the restaurant life history very well. He was known as ቀበርቾ his nickname; he was well known and very friendly and very humble person ,well liked by many Addisyn . His name is Hussein, he was a boxer and champion .He come to Addis to study when he was young man in 1950 .May God had a mercy on his soul and shower him with his blessing .He was an innocent victim. minding his business.

          • Abi

            Selam said
            I knew it was ቀበርቾ restaurant. I just didn’t want to say it. That is why I said around ቀበርቾ restaurant just to point you in the right direction. A very successful restaurant. One of the best and recognized in the city back then.
            I was born and raised around Bole Mini. It is very close to the airport. ቀበርቾ was my stop over on my way home. I haven’t returned to that restaurant after that day. During the derg times, lots of የደርግ ጆሮ ጠቢዎች used to hangout in that area usually sitting in their LADA and NIVA cars. There was also a white Datsun usually parked on across the street.
            እልም ያሉ ፋራዎች ነበሩ:: ሊስትሮዎቹ ሳይቀሩ ያውቋቸዋል::

            Rest In Peace.

            RIP

          • said

            Selam Abi
            Yes, I was sure ,I knew from your hinting . He was one of many Eritrean lost his life based on Suspicion and Rumer, it is real tragedy that have falling in those individual. sadly many lost their life without a trace and trail . What makes this one different 30 years after what took place ,you brought to life and what make his life interesting you were an eye witness to his Kidnaping and that you saw him disappear from inside his restaurant .which is a stark violation of international law, the issue of legality, then “leaving it aside”, legality do not matter ,they are following the same blueprint for long time inside and outside of the boarder , at the expense of Eritrean living in Ethiopia. for Shabia rule of law and international law do not exists from day one till today ,nothing have changed , for Shabia there is no such a thing as internationally recognized borders, or human right ,only power and might is right , one want to believe international law is respected and Eritrean citizen living abroad are safe.
            If we believe and persist in believing that people impaneled to render a decision in a legal proceeding should be expected to listen to the evidence before making their judgment, we will be fooled. This is one example of innocent private citizen. Mr Hussein basic right was violated by Eritrean government flouting international law.
            For many of those disappeared .No one is advocating for answers about what happened to their loved ones. It’s a question shared by many families.
            Shabia turned against Eritrean ’s citizens, it a normal practices, whisking away non political dissidents and ordinary people it merely suspected of being aligned with social justice causes and incarcerating and murdering them, is well recorded . Those individuals are “the missing,” The TPLF government at that time made no effort to identify or document the missing . By “disappearing” them and disposing of their bodies, SHABIA could in effect pretend they never existed. But the family members and friends of the disappeared knew they had existed. TPLF leadership knew about the “the missing,” involving human rights abuses ,they pretend not to know. They closed their eyes. Families searched desperately for traces of their loved ones and many searched for answers to no avail and presumably killed ,case closed .AT very least you remembered your favorite best PIZZA owner in Addis ABEBA and in turn you made me remember him and his one victim among many other victim. i never thought one day i will read about him in this forum. As he was not politics of any kind.

          • Abi

            Hello said
            It was a sad story all over. Tplf leaders including the visionary one looked the other way when eplf did its dirty deeds. SGJ has an article on the illegal activities of Eritrean government during those years. It was private publications like ጦቢያ magazine exposed the situation to the public. Both Eritreans and Tplf activists condemned the magazine as ነፍጠኛ, የአማራ ትምክህተኛ … I believe Tplf encouraged the kidnappings. Why should they care? It was Eritreans against Eritreans.
            Couple of years forward, Tplf kicked out as many Eritreans as possible because of a wrong eye color.
            We all know what the Tplf leaders did to the Eritrean opposition. They never wanted them to succeed.

            As you said ቀበርቾ made the best pizza and loved by many አዲስ አበቤዎች:: I and First Lady ate enough pizza in that place that last us forever.
            ቀበርቾ ጠብቀኝ was her ቀጭን ትዕዛዝ::
            The Best of Times, The Worst of Times…. You took me back years.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Abi,

            I hate rehashing stories so I will skip the ELF-EPLF vis-à-vis TLF-TPLF entangled webs. As stories goes, I had a business relationship with the owner of which you speak of. My mom and I, we had a code word for those who were made to disappear (or killed) when the TPLF assumed the helm. If it was Kebessa the code name was Be’Alu for otherwise it was Hamza. Take a guess as to why these code names? Later on when the numbers increased we used suffix numbers to either of the above code names. The person you speak of was Hamza-11. In 1995 a person very well known to us was killed. We had decided then that we had seen enough of the same old but new Ethiopia.

            PS. The owner of the Datsun was called Meto AleKa Mitiku while the other two vehicles were of airborne members, which I don’t remember their names. Later on, after the removal of the Derg, they used to frequent a restaurant in front of cinema/theatre Ambasel.

          • Abi

            Hello D D
            Long time no talk.
            Looks like you and I have been in the same place may be at the same time.
            At least give me full credit for I was very observant of my surroundings:)
            Sadly, many Baalu’s and Hamzas lost their lives during the honeymoon period.

        • Saleh Johar

          Abi,
          It’s good that human side is on. I will take advantage of that.
          I think to have activists outside their country is not the mistake of the activists, but the government who shamelessly push anyone who doesn’t agree with them out. Many of those in the neighboring countries are diehard patriots who love their countries…I know many who didn’t want to go further that the neighborhood. Some, having spend their better years in the selfless struggle, didn’t have the needed skill set to survive in far places like the West. Others were not lucky in the resettlement programs and were stuck. Others love their country so much they chose to stay the course and keep struggling with whatever they had. A few were opportunists who found a way to benefit from the misery. I know all the sampled types and it pains me when people use a large brush to incriminate and be mean towards all. Now, I do not care much about those who were there to benefit themselves… and we have a few of them. But I am concerned with those who have families and children and are angels without angels. Please do not be cruel towards them–you wouldn’t if you know their miseries and hardships. Yet, they persevere. Kindness is due to many–that’s if you believe me. Otherwise, I leave you with your conscience. But please, do not be like the PFDJ rascals who know nothing but to produce refugees and destitution.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            You said it beautifully. I agree with you on most of the points you highlighted. The problem I see in the current situation is that Isaias is so popular in Ethiopia than he makes it difficult if not impossible for the opposition parties to function in Ethiopia. I don’t think these parties who have been handled by the late Tplf have any support from the current government . They will be easy targets for the guys in Asmara. We have witnessed it before. We have to be realistic about the changes that took place and act accordingly. Besides, Abiy doesn’t want to get into unnecessary confrontations with Isu for the sake of protecting the opposition leaders.

          • saay7

            Hey Archduke Abiy:

            The question of what does Isaias really think of Abiy and what does Abiy really think of Isaias was half-answered in Isaias’s “interview” by his employees at EriTV. The psycho was “describing” (mostly-lying) about the genesis for his trip to hand-hold Debretsion and he says he had first said he was not available but then because of the desire (ባህጊ) of Abiy he decided to go. That’s more interesting to me than the lies he told about what he allegedly told Debretsion (he always narrates stories ONLY after making sure that those who have a different recollection are unable to speak.)

            ባህጊ, in this context and body language, describes someone who is an impulsive slave to his emotions. An immature child.

            When Abiy came to power, he de-fumigated Isaias: made him acceptable and deserving a parole from sanctions. Ironic that now is repaying the favor by advising him to take steps to he sanctioned, with the long-renowned Ethiopian diplomacy, reduced to the PFDJ vulgar language of the Sophias and Yemanes.

            I thought we Eritreans are the most suicidal people, but your peeps are surprising me with their desire to be contenders to the title.

            Lakers in 5.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hello Saay
            I believe Isu is the second most popular person in Ethiopia next to Abiy. He capitalized on the series of blunders the late Tplf collectively made. From the little information I gathered from his recent interview ( provided it was translated accurately) , he sounds like the spokesperson for government of Ethiopia. He turned himself from a sanctioned and lonely dude to an indispensable asset and ተወርዋሪ diplomat when it comes to Ethiopian affairs. His trip to Cairo on our behalf is a great example.
            His deeds during the current war made him ውለታው የማይረሳ የክፉ ቀን ደራሽ !!
            I believe Isu is more popular in Ethiopia than in Eritrea. You will find millions of NNNN in Ethiopia at this moment. ኢሱ ኬኛ ሆኗል ጉዳዩ::
            This is the reality on the ground as we speak. Do you expect the Eritrean opposition parties and members in Addis to survive Isu’s long arms? Of course, I’m not asking if they function properly and bring about the desired results. Let us not kid ourselves. We know better. The question becomes unless they are suicidal, what are they doing in Ethiopia under these circumstances? They will be more productive elsewhere.

            I don’t except Abiy to be sanctioned for cleansing the horn from the cancerous Tplf.

            His Fantiness አለም በቃኝ ብለው መንነዋል:: አባ ፋንታ ተብለው ቆብ ደፍተው ገዳም ከገቡ ሰንብተዋል::
            ከገቡበት ገዳም ፌደራል ፖሊስ እስኪያወጣቸው በትእግስት መጠበቅ ነው::
            Tedros Alem joined አማራ ሚሊሽያ::
            I missed Paul and Samuel.

            Do you know the idea of GIE was proposed by Professor Tes? He was at least six years ahead of you:)
            He even wanted to borrow money from the world bank as a Government In Exile. I advised him to hire a lobbying firm.

            Enjoining Champions League and EPL.

          • Brhan

            Hi Abi,
            “From the little information I gathered from his recent interview ( provided it was translated accurately)
            Now I know why your comments have been contradicting eachother, but as SGH always says in his Negarit episodes , you are forgiven

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I’ve not been participating lately to the extent of contracting myself. I just told a real story where innocent people lost their lives. I also warned that Ethiopia doesn’t provide a conducive environment for Eritrean opposition. Isu produced millions of Ethiopian NNNN overnight due to the reckless actions of the late Tplf. I don’t see myself contradicting here. Anyway, since you are ልበ ብርሃን ,you see and hear things that are not clear for others.
            Am I still forgiven?
            ይቅርታ የጎበዞች ናት ይላል ታላቁ መፅሐፍ::

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Ras Abi,
            I am elated to read you last comment. I never gave up on you despite your unnecessarily provocative comments.

            Today has been difficult for me because I lost my close friend and confidante in the current struggle for justice. He has been vilified like no other by groupies and cult members and painted as a Weyane lackey by the PFDJ. He was a formidable opponent and diplomat. But the unrefined lots could not understand his moves. This, vilifying him was the easiest thing they could do. People like him being insulted was what I objected to when many took liberty defaming gold standard patriots who stayed resilient and civil. So, life is short and should not be wasted on trivial issues when the stakes are more critical to the wellbeing of nations. Having differences is natural but there is nothing that cannot be discussed (if not resolved) respectfully. And when the time calls, it’s honorable to apologize, mend fences, and move on. Thank you.

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear Saleh and Awate Community,

            I’m sorry for your loss, may God/Allah rest his soul in peace and grant him Jannah.
            —///—–

            As an Ethiopian and Eritrean citizen, you all have my permission to have a peaceful political movement in Ethiopia, especially in Addis Ababa!! Thump me up if you like this 🙂

            If there are any official hiccups, let me know, I can assist by lobbying for such a campaign to take place. I say this with confidence as I know that the honeymoon period is over, for what being described by @Abi . I believe I am entitled to make that statement as others picturing my city as unsafe, for oppositions of any nation on Africa’s horn.

            Addis Ababa will have a new, improved identity soon. It will be the city for all the people in the horn (Abyssinia). We will not let history repeat itself as it did in the past. There will not be red terror, and there will not be cancelling citizenship for Amici, Ethiopian born Somali, Yemeni or Armani. It will also cease to be a trophy to any political parties, rebels or military.

            This is our statement for the Addis movement.

            Addis is an infinite value for us, a great treasure for its resident, and we will make sure prosperity and civility will continue to prevail.

            So don’t let an individual like @Abi opinion frighten you all in anyway. If Abi is from Bole mini area, not AsmereX, I would expect some sensitivity, caring towards all the people as Ye Bole leje (Always civil, Nonmaleficence? ). He probably went to St. Joseph High school (like ክቡር ሓርበኛ ጅግና ተጋዳላይ ኣድሓኖም!).

            Surely, people have to protect themselves from being kidnapped and smuggled across the border. They can do that by moving around in a group with undercover security guards, screaming and shouting if the kidnapping is attempted, limiting your movement, and not disclosing an address to anyone.

            I have been told that there is a big concern about the massive number of young Eritrean people in Megenagna area. They have taken over the street life; they are doing robbery in the area, don’t speak Amharic, and have become worse than the ‘Kembata’ who used to do their robbery using cobblestones. Also, Addis people are not renting their property to Eritrean.

            Dear @Abi, if possible, would you be able to describe in details the people who kidnapped Kebericho(for the record), including the time. Such as what they were wearing, a black coat (Kaporte, were they pointing a gun at him, etc.) just for the record or for their family information.

            I knew some of his relatives. I think they used to study in Cairo, America University.
            I was always curious if the guy who shot ‘Hayelom’ was one of the many loving cousin’s of Kebericho.

            FYI, Eplf didn’t like Eritrean who lives in Ethiopia; they see them as a sellout for living and working in Ethiopia or see them as opportunists, who ignore to support the struggle in order to benefit themselves (They never see them as a family who are keeping their head down). I knew trouble would come to the Eritrean family in Addis after Eritrean libration.
            The Tigrigna people in Addis, mostly the poor ones, were over warmed with the Eritrean victory, and there were many stories; I think it’s better to stop here.
            Regards,
            Reclaim

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I’m deeply sorry for your loss.
            የወዳጅዎን ነፍስ አምላክ ከጎኑ ያኑርልን::
            https://youtu.be/8W1JVQ1Cts0

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት!

    ብልጽግና
    ወዲ-ሓዊ ህግደፍ ኢሎምና
    ሰማዕና

    ኣይገርመኩምን?
    ኣነስ ተገሪመ
    ኣብ ዓደይ ከይምለስ ተኸልኪለ
    ደቂ ስዉኣት የሕዋተይ
    ኣብ ጎረቤት-ሃገር ኣስፊረ
    ህግደፍ ንብልጽግና ምስ መኸረ
    ሕማም ናይ ህግደፍ
    ኣብ ጎረቤት ሳዕረረ
    መዓር ዝነበረ
    ከመ-ቕጽበት ቅይር ናብ ዕረ!

    ናይ ብልጽግና ጋቢ
    ሰለስተ ዝሕብሩ
    ንናይ ህግደፍ ሕብሪ
    ከም ስርዓት በሊሉ
    ናተይ ጋቢ ‘ዩ ናይ ክልቴና ኢሉ
    ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ናትና ‘ዩ ኢሉ
    ከም ኣመሉ

    ‘ቲ ናይ ኣድጊ ቅርጺ
    ዳግማይ ተተኺሉ
    ኣብ ንኡስ ወለዶ ኣብ ዒሉ

    ‘ንዳ ንሕና-ንሱ
    ሕጂ ንታይ ትብሉ
    ‘ንታይ ‘ዩ ትጸገም
    ዘይተስተውዕሉ
    ዝባን ስዉኣት ዓገብ በሉ
    ኣብዘይ ናትኩም ዓዘቕቲ
    ከይትጥሕሉ

  • Peace!

    Hi All,

    This is not surprising. We have been saying the Oppositions can’t afford to fail but they have miserably. Issayas is a threat to even some Ethiopian Opposition leaders. In his recent Interview Ledetu said someone told him privately- why can’t you keep your mouth shut otherwise Issayas will kill you.

    Peace!

  • Germay Berhane

    Selam,
    Would you please ask “President elected” Saleh send money to the needy from the coffers of government in exile.

    • saay7

      Germany:

      😂😂😂

      The government in exile is not duly constituted and is not able to raise taxes and therefore can’t send any.

      Saay

      • Germay Berhane

        Selam Saleh,
        I understand your “government” is not duly constituted, but to constitute it you , i mean all those who supporting your idea must have invest your life time earning to the cause you are preaching from the begging This is the time to help your comrades. Any way don;t dream day time. All your ideas are illusions..

        • saay7

          Selamat Germay:

          Thanks for the advice. Since you gave me one, let me give you one: Just focus on the new order you were given by your cult leader Isaias (#ከርተት) to rationalize dictatorship, war crimes and destroying Eritrea’s reputation and I will focus on my mine.

          saay

    • Nitricc

      Hi Germay; It is indeed funny; when the bullets were raging and people dying to free their country, some of the opportunistic Eritreans were out of the country educating themselves and live it all. Now, when nature approaching in calling their names, they are more vanguard about the nation more than those who sacrificed everything. Simply they are morally decayed, desperados.

      • Germay Berhane

        Selam Nitric,
        You are right. Anyway people who are frustrated are addicted to drinking, sleeping and aggressive behavior. Here in this room people are addicted to cool their frustration by blaming, demonizing and insulting to national heroes. Let them enjoy their habit no where they will go.

  • Selam

    Greetings All,

    When I saw the title of this article, I believed it would be about the refugees in Ethiopia, who seem to have become targets from all sides. Meron Estifanos tweeted today that she is getting several calls about Eritrean refugees in Tigray becoming targets for retribution attacks. She also described the general condition of refugees not only in Ethiopia, but around the world. Their situation has become extremely dire due to the pandemic, it is very heart breaking.

    Since the article is focused on opposition members based in Ethiopia, I believe the title would have better served the article if it was “Eritrean Opposition Members in Ethiopia Fear for Their Safety”

    Just my $0.02

    Cheers

    • Brhan

      Hello Selam,
      It is news and I believe you know that news wrting has many techniques and one of them is to make its tiltle catchy to attract the attention of audience. Secondly, the Eritrean oppositon members are firstly Eritreans before anything else. Thirdly among the Eritrean refugees you can also find persons who oppose the government. ( Not all of them oppose the government. Most of them are persons who have fear of their lives if they returned to Eritrea by force) .

      I am adding another cent to your $0.02

      • Selam

        Dear Brhan,

        It did definitely catch my attention, but I must confess, it’s current title would have caught my attention too 🙂

        I would actually say that the Eritrean opposition members are firstly human, and as such they deserve basic human rights!

        Hopefully they can stay safe!

        All the best!

  • Abi

    Hello Gedab News
    Extremely misleading title.
    Eritreans in Ethiopia are doing just fine.
    If the Eritrean opposition leaders find themselves in a precarious situation, they are more than welcome to leave the country.
    Hosting an opposition party will only complicate the peace process.

    • Brhan

      Hello Abi
      Extermely misleading comment: Eritreans in Tigray, Ethiopia are doing just fine.

      • Abi

        Brother Brhan
        Almost missed you:)
        Now that is not misleading.

      • yoni tech

        Not ,they aren’t they are being killed ,raped by the Tigrayan military and milisha , what you talking about ?

        • Brhan

          Hi yoni tech
          Please check to whom I am replying. I am replying to a person who preferes sarcasm, accordingly.

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. The title of the article is misleading and should perhaps read ‘Time for Illicit Eritrean Opposition Groups in Ethiopia to Leave’.

  • Some communist guy

    Dear Tifosi Awate,

    Allah/Amlak knows why, I was in Ethiopia for work when Abiy first called on Isaias to make peace. I vividly remember two encounters I had prior to Isaias’ acceptance of the peace offer on June 20 2018. One was with Biniam Berhe from the Permanent Mission of Eritrea to the African Union. That unexpected meeting made me conclude that the young diplomat was happy to witness peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea. That feeling was shared by the few Eritrean diplomats in Addis. Three days later, I ran into an ex-ELF cadre, active with the EPDP or ENSF i can’t remember. He began by laughing at Abiy’s peace offering, saying the “aregi seb’ay” (Isaias) would never accept it. I remember telling him: “He will accept it at some point. Get your stuff and go to Kenya”. He laughed again and told me “Don’t worry for us. We’ve survived everything so far”. My stance was that Isaias was able to arrest people in Sudan between the 1980s and 2010s without fear, and now Ethiopia was about to become hell for anti-PFDJ elements. He said: “ya shebab, temekro yeblkan”. We are now almost three years later and Eritreans (opposition activists and refugees) felt nothing could happen to them.

    I wanted to share this experience because I feel Eritreans linked with the opposition have trusted Ethiopia for too long and based on bogus reasons. The further you are from Eritrea, the safer…

  • Nitricc

    A leader of an opposition organization said, “we are appealing to the Ethiopian government to guarantee the safety of our members since their living conditions are life threatening.

    Hahahahaha; I don’t think anyone understands the power of PIA and its capability. Even the Ethiopians in politics who are oppositions to the government are pissing in their pants because they opposed the Eritrean leader. Ask Lidetu? he is having a sleepless nights in fear. he telling PIA will get him killed to every TV channel on the country. Now, that is power!!! Eritrean opposition cease to exist with TPLF thugs.