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Asmara to Geneva: A 25-Years Journey

Clarance Darrow, the famous civil libertarian wrote, “No other offense has ever been visited with such severe penalties as seeking to help the oppressed.” He also said, “True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.”

Eritrean patriots would attest to that; they have been facing injustice in their own land for too long. In addition, the last quarter of a century was basically an era of assault on Eritrean patriotism, inside the country and in exile. Now we have reached a stage where we have to seriously think about salvaging Eritrean patriotism.

For twenty-five years we went through the deafening propaganda of “protecting the sovereignty of the motherland”, but neither the sovereignty of the land nor the dignity of citizens was protected. Instead, Eritrea was exposed to untold miseries, pain, and sufferings. Fortunately, long gone are the days when the regime, its affiliates and operatives controlled Eritreans in their country and in exile. At last, the force that rejects the totalitarian PFDJ regime has reached a critical mass. Naturally, the immediate task awaiting free Eritreans is the cleansing of Eritrean patriotism, shunning adventurous military bravado, and rehabilitating those with thuggish behaviors—arrogant PFDJ character traits should be eradicated by all free Eritreans.

The last two-months were eventful.

On May 24, while some Eritreans celebrated the 25th anniversary of independence day, others spent the day reflecting on the twenty-five years that were stolen from them. For the latter, it was a time for a deep contemplation and reflection. Eritrea has been brutalized by the PFDJ. The balance sheet of the last quarter of a century ended in red, and with a huge liability. Twenty-five years of brigandage by the PFDJ regime has inflicted severe damages on the society. The pride that Eritreans maintained throughout the struggle era was besmirched and the names of heroes were defiled. Worse, the PFDJ dishonored and betrayed the tens of thousands who paid the ultimate price for the freedom and prosperity of their people. Since 1993, the group of liberators-turned-oppressors have destroyed the social fabric of Eritrea. They have exiled more people compared to those who were exiled or became refugees during the successive Ethiopian occupations. A dire situation that destroyed the dreams of youth prevailed. It proved to them that they can only dream outside the borders of their country which they have to brave risking being shot at and killed. Leave Eritrea they did, in their hundreds of thousands. The last quarter of a century was nothing but an era of terror where citizens are jailed for unexplained reasons, where they live under the mercy of petty-officers who control the lives and livelihood of the citizenry.

Dumbfounded Eritreans have never stopped wondering: what happened to the bravery of Eritreans, why did they succumb to the repression of a brutal homemade tyranny?

Twenty-Five Years On A Rollercoaster

The first decade of the 25 years was a tough uphill struggle waged to expose the corrupt nature of the clique that was tightening its grip to control the people’s lives. Standing against the regime was a costly position, particularly because chunks of the Eritrean population were euphoric and never believed the PFDJ was this bad. The few honorable voices who stood firm against the unjust regime were overwhelmed by the well-oiled and better organized voices of the tyranny and its gullible supporters. However, it was not in vain. By the year 2000, the totalitarian regime was exposed even if an Eritrean segment with a considerable number of people still supports it.

Unfortunately, still there are Eritreans known for their moral indignation. Worse, they keep blurring the lens of morality, muddying and diluting the obligation of patriots. Yet, they claim to be a benign silent majority! If that was the case, and they were really silent, they wouldn’t have inflicted so much pain and damage, but they did. And they were never silent. In fact, their silence was too loud to avoid detection. They pride themselves in belittling the years of struggle and sacrifice of others when they were fattening the tyrant that is chocking Eritrea. If not, they had turned deaf and mute and didn’t lend their voice when their people needed them the most. It’s disheartening to see this segment defending its ambiguous and immoral position on the Eritrean predicament. Yet, they shamelessly consider their despicable position a virtue that deserves respect and accolade. No wonder they share similar character traits with the clique running the totalitarian regime in Eritrea: naked arrogance.

Tm Is for Silence

Hussein Mohammed Ali described the behavior of the arrogant elements in one of his catchy songs: ምረኤካ? ትም! ምሰምዓካ? ትም! (What did you see? No answer. What did you hear? No answer.)

And humanity knows that silence in the face of injustice is not a virtue; no one should allow it to be peddled as one.

Oppressive regime might speak different languages, may have different citizenships, but their nature is the same. So is the struggle against injustice. That is why the Eritrean struggle waged against oppression before 1991 is not different to the struggle being waged against the PFDJ since 1991. Just like not every able person joined the struggle against the Ethiopian occupation; not every able person is likely to join the current struggle against the PFDJ. There were Eritreans who supported the previous occupation regimes, or were indifferent during the entire period. Today, there are similar opportunists and anti-struggle elements who have made a choice, willingly. I recognize their choice but I will not respect it, let alone reward it as a virtue or a wise decision as they try to position it. Every free Eritrean should identify them for what they are, without hesitation. They should be encouraged to inherit and embrace the old labels of the struggle era: Lackeys.

I have no qualms in stating that it is unlikely the entire Eritrean population will kiss up and adopt a similar view. But there should be a critical mass of dedicated, peaceful and patriotic Eritreans who should bond together in an alliance for the just cause. Similar to the past, marginal positions will surely be defeated in due time before the final stages of the process of reconciliation. Evidently, the forces of justice and peace have reached a critical mass.

After the above reflections that was stirred while watching the choreographed propaganda-filled celebrations in May 24, It is time to say a word about what is going on in Geneva.

First, I always held the view that as long as the Eritrean opposition remained confused on what it wants, victory will be a long and arduous journey. Naturally, clarity hastens victory. Over the years, we have seen the opposition embrace the true Eritrean flag—imagine how long it took to recognize that reality! One cannot fight Isaias by adopting his avatar.

The second thing that needs serious contemplation is the fact that change cannot be achieved easily without the participation of Eritreans inside the country simply because they are the major stakeholders. Gone are the days when some forces within the opposition portrayed the Eritreans army as if it was their militia while treating other opposition forces as if they hail from Siberia and have no relations with forces inside Eritrea, totally ignoring the political, social, and regional dynamics of any struggle. Now it seems the critical mass has realized that all Eritreans are equal stakeholders and no one should boss others around.

Between The Alps and Jura

Last summer, the Geneva demonstration assured Eritrean forces of justice that they have come a long way, that the tyrant would not last long if faced by the combined will power of all free Eritreans. The crowds that attended the Geneva demonstration in the summer of 2015 heralded a turning point in the current struggle against the PFDJ. Inspired Eritreans carried a chain of demonstrations from Israel, to Ethiopia, to the USA and elsewhere. Last year the main goal, besides a show of force, was to support the COiE. This year, on June 23 a huge demonstration will be carried out to support the same COiE and to appeal to the world community to ship the brutes of the Eritrean regime to the ICC—there are Eritreans willing to pay for their air-tickets unless the UN decides to teach them a lesson by forcing them to trek the Sahara, sail in rickety boats over the Mediterranean Sea to reach Lampedusa. Seeing them go through what they made thousands go through would have been fun if it was not cruel. And cruelty will end with the PFDJ, hopefully. But I have a disclaimer to make:

I pray the Eritrea capo and his clique would be apprehended and tried in Eritrea, by Eritreans; I am not a fan of outsourced justice. Furthermore, a trial in Eritrea would set an excellent precedent for the nation. A trail in a foreign land, would set a very bad precedent. However, for that to happen, we are in dire need of forces that would awaken the spirit of Wed-Ali, and the valor of Eritrean combatants. This time, they better do it right.

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  • VERNIE PERSONS

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  • Kokhob Selam

    —- ወይ ዛ ጀ …….
    ጀ ብሃ ክትሓቅቅ እያ ክብሉ ሓቐቑ :-
    ጀ ግና ውን ቀተሉ ንሱ ግን በሪቑ :-
    ጀ በርቲ ክዕብልሉ ባዕሎም ተፋረቑ :-
    ጆ ሆባ ክድምስሱ ርእሶም ተሰንጢቑ :-
    ጅ ሃድ ጅ ሃድ ክቡሉ ኦርቶዶክስ ዓጢቑ :-
    ጀ ኔቫ መጸቶም ብጀ – ዶ ሃለቑ :-
    ጉድ ረኺቦም ህግደፍ ብጀ ተሓነቁ ::

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam Guest

    If you think I need an Amharic translator, I have already passed “abi’s Amharic Standard Test”.

    Would you kindly tell me what you mean by

    a. Tigrayan

    I don’t know a language by that name.

    b. Tigre

    It could mean different depending on who reads it. Example, I’m confused. They say “ያልሰማ ጆሮ ከጎረቤት ያጣላል” So, making it clear will make it easy for the translators.

    • Abi

      Hi vet
      Engda siqebT balebetun yigabzal.

      My 8th grade Amharic teacher would have definitely whipped Guest’s qiT big time for butchering the proverb.
      ” Ebd gelagay dingay yaqeblal “

      • Guest

        Abinet,
        No wonder you whip everyone’s rear for no apparent reason. You learned it from your grade 8th teacher didn’t you? You are lucky your teacher is not alive otherwise he would have whipped your Balege Maskemecha big time, as usual, for misqoting the very same saying that you’re bragging about that you know it better than the rest.

        • Abi

          Selam Guest
          YeEngda neger tolo tiqoTaleh
          Esti teregaga buna yifelalih
          Dabowum yiqores simim enawTalih
          Bel telemamed betachin betih new
          Derso meqoTathin eber lay tewew.

  • Kokhob Selam

    ክቡራት እንዳዓዋተ እሞ ቅሩብ ድ ኣ ፍሽኽ ዘይንብል
    ሓደ ደላይ ፍትሒ ኣብ ‘ታ ዕለት ዶንግዩ በጺሑ :: ኣብ ቲ ሰጥ ዝበለ ጎደና ከይዱ እንታይ ገይሩ ይመስለኩም ሃ ሃ ሃ ! ኣይትሕለፍኒ ርኣዩ ::

    https://www.facebook.com/213781708984449/videos/265902567105696/

  • Saleh Johar

    Ahlan Mahmouday,

    Not to sideline the debate (it has been sidelined enough) but to say a few words on one of your assertions:

    “…criticizing TPLF has become the litmus test for someone to earn him/her ” supporter of the Dictator.” Criticizing leaders of the opposition has become ground enough to earn someone as being anti change.”

    I believe that is half the truth. The other half is this: when someone takes extra care not to criticize the PFDJ, in comparison to what they heap on the opposition (blanket) earns him a PFDJ sympathizer (as a reaction, wrongly) and not because it can be defended.

    I also tend to think “… that most of the political prisoners our activists raise are members of PFDJ, or individuals closely associated with it..” as Eritrean victims, not PFDJ members. Not many applied for a PFDJ membership, they were considered members because the regime believes it owns everything in Eritrea, including the will and choice of Eritreans.

    I mention Eritreans inside Eritrea in that context–as citizens not as PFDJ militia. By the way, that was not a new position I adopted to give a debate an impetus, it has been my position all along, well before, well….

    I think some veterans (unfortunately) have not been liberated from looking at things from partisan perspectives. The day we see things as a clearly delineated conflict between the Justice camp (as represented by the broad Eritrean opposition, organized or not) and between the PFDJ (the unjust camp led by the brutes, and its affiliates) Somewhere in the peripheries are the confused, the power hungry, the spoilers, the unpatriotic, and the wishy-washy–they will always be there but we should not mistake them for any of the two camps that are in the above confrontation.

    As far as debating is concerned, we would be better off if we stop using harsh words (stereotyping) when we are annoyed by one or two people. It’s not far and not rational. We have to respond specifically to the individuals we want to respond to, not use a machine gun and spray everyone in sight 🙂

    Thanks

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Saleh (SGJ),

      Let him distort and divert every debate we are in. He is here just for that, and to tell us Eritrea is for those who fought for it not for all Eritrean citizens. Demanding justice and fighting against the despot and his lackeys is “lording them around.” Every day in his comment are new words and phrases defending the victimizer.

      regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam Saleh
      Not to drag you to the debate, but to clarify.
      “he other half is this: when someone takes extra care not to criticize the PFDJ, in comparison to what they heap on the opposition (blanket) earns him a PFDJ sympathizer (as a reaction, wrongly) and not because it can be defended.”
      Not quite sure what the intended target is. While criticizing generalization, you have committed the same offense. Specify, please. If it’s Hope, his comments will absolve him. If it’s me, my comments and actions will absolve me, and so goes for every body. Regarding criticisms that go to the opposition, I think you criticized the opposition more than I did. The notion that criticizing the opposition is Kosher for some and it should be untouchable by others is a mindset crippling attempts to unify its efforts. Since you have criticized them more than anybody, this one does not apply to you.
      Secondly, the fact that not many people applied for or wanted to carry PFDJ card says it all. That’s why they are the main driving force for change. Diaspora need to understand its limit; play it right and its efforts will be a multiplying factor. Try to describe the majority of unwilling card holders with disparaging novice ways and adjectives (again, I’m refering to the folks who consider every one who differs with their view as supporters of dictator, koboro junky…describing EDF as mercenary army…), and it will result in delaying change.
      Thirdly: I think, in general, Eritreans are focused in bringing CHANGE. Enduring change is going to come through internal dynamics. The 1o nakfa question is if the diaspora efforts are in sync with that dynamics.
      Fourthly: I was replying to tSATSE, in relation to Hope, and the way Emma was describing Hope and me.
      Consider this, and I believe you know both of us, Emma and this writer
      -Emma considers Mahmud as a culprit. For someone who considers you a culprit, who thinks you are a part of an organized team who want to divert attention and debate…I mean, you would think there is little hope for engagement. Not with Emma, zbele ente bele, he is still the good Emma. When he oversteps though some reminders will be sent to him. For instance, Emma replied to iSem’s nice steps of reconciliation which will probably be adopted by the transitional authority (they are universal principles which incorporate Eritrean peculiarities), Emma’s priorities were not discussing those steps but Hope and Mahmud asking iSem not to put all of his cards on the deck.Read his reply and you will see Emma’s uncompromising attitude.
      That’s how hazy the judgement of some of us has become.
      Now, for all the respect you earn from all of us: be a fair judge. As far as I’m concerned Emma would be the last person I would want to confront. But he declared war on me openly in this forum. He stated that he would go “toe to toe” with me. I will try to keep the verse (read: SAAY) but will not allow this time iSem to translate it.
      Emma have a wonderful day brother. ፍትሕትሕ በል።

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Mahmuday,

        ዝአኽለን ጢሒነንሲ በዓለማርም ይብላ አዴታት:: After blackmailing day in day out as foot soldier of TPLF, now you felt when I said to you the culprit. If you are not sure what said to me go bsck and revisit your commentd Respect to be respected.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Ahlan Emma
          I will take it; that’s fine Emma. It’s a beautiful day, and I want you to have a rest.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mahmuday,

            I reciprocate, and took it back. Please let us debate humbly on the ideas. You have all the rights to reject my ideas but without slandering. Thank you.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Mahmuday,

        You know I have no problem with you except when you use your favorite blanket targeting 🙂
        My response was because you mentioned my name in connection to your debate, and that is the only reason I was forced to comment. Honestly Mahmoud, just remember how many times you have been asked to kindly refrain from making blanket statements where your victims are unintended persons? In the comment above, you made those inside Eritrea appear as if they are all PFDJ, I know you do not subscribe to that, as you have clarified it now. But I know that even if you didn’t clarify it.

        True, as you said I criticize everybody I feel should be criticized. And I believe the PFDJ is an enemy and should be criticized a million times more than the others who have no effect in my life or the life of Eritreans. Their role is peripheral (and I know there are “convicted” spoilers among themn wh sully the name of the Eritrean opposition) But still, they are just a simple nuisance, nothing more. That answers the Kosher part, since you called it that 🙂

        My point, which I made in my earlier comment, I can tell you are responding to specific people and my brotherly advice was to consider who would be the unintended victim of shrapnel when you throw your bombs!

        Finally, I would suggest that we treat each other here as individuals (certainly I am not a judge here) and this shleliya (groupings) trying to form cells of debaters, is counter productive and should stop. Even the groupings that start as a gesture of a joke, become very unhealthy and we slip into partisan debate–not so productive in our situation.

        Apart from that, I wish you knew how much the lack of trust in the spirit of Eritreans makes me feel. I cannot tolerate anything that belittles the history of Eritreans, their heroes, and their sacrifices, anything below that I can just brush off.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Ahlan Saleh
          Thank you, and who else could articulate it more than you. I have nothing to throw away from the above. I have respect for Emma. We get heated up and we regress. That’s bad. I sense over scrutiny to what I say. That’s fine. It keeps me better. I have said some names which I regret saying them. But I’m as perfect as humanly possible. When someone goes personal, sorry, I’m not Jesus.
          Anyway, thanks. I will let Emma cool down.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Mahmuday,

            you are doing great. we are all human beings and we have much more to learn from each other.

        • Hope

          Bingo Your Excellency SGJ:
          I wish you CC this to Emma(to yourself as well, with all due respect ,sir, without going into details)…the man ,who believes that he is the ONLY perfect Human being,debators, genius..etc,.with a kind of my way is the High Way approach….and at times, stands on people’s feet acting as the Judge and Champion—of ALL.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Guest,
    ሃ ሃ ሃ! እስኻ ግዳ ነቶም ስራሕ ዘይብልና ዘይትሓትት? “ሕማቕ ገላጋልስ እምኒ ሒዙ የገላግል ” and also they say “ሕማቕ ገላጋልስ ኢድካ ሒዙ የውቅዓካ “

  • Saleh Johar

    Guest,
    Embi, why would I? I already have enough trouble 🙂

    • Guest

      Selam Gadi,
      I thought you’re a Vet. Soldier with abundent volunteer experience. How could you not dare this time around. I guarantee you, your life won’t be indanger.

  • PTS

    Hello all,

    For over a long while now, the top three stupid PFDJ’s defense against abuses accusations have been the following

    1) you are conducting human rights abuses
    – No we are not. How can we, when the rights of the Eritrean people is enshrined ln the constitution…
    (with the constitution officially discarded, not sure what the answer is now)

    2) you are conducting rape
    – No way! How is this even possible when rape is against the culture of the Eritrean people…

    3) you are mistreating religious minority
    – None sense. Eritrean Christians and Moslems have been living in peace and harmony for centuries…

    PS. Weekend fun quiz. I) Who in the world has the most Twitter followers? II) Which Eritrean has the most Twitter followers?

  • sara

    dear hope, selam
    the Brits who were the XXXX of you know who are out of Europe, as you said the CIA have lost a big mole who used to frustrate all European agendas, if you come
    around our region specially the middle east the mass are happy but the elites are not, and you know it why. the brit (gov) are always the cunning power who divide, subjugate nations,if you follow all what happens past 1st and second world war it has a touch of the Brits first and later their patrons in DC.in fact all what we see in
    the middle east all the death and distraction is originally concocted by the British empire, and still the misery is continuing.
    hey, also remember what the brits did to us in the 40-50th…
    may the peace loving Europeans find solace with the exit of these… and give others peace.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Hope,
    believe me you are wonderful. Hayata didn’t work so hard if you weren’t smart and important. so you support the removal of IA ! you know what I was doing since you post the above reply to me 17 hours back? I war reading all your posts in the past, Oh, you are the most sophisticated man here. Hayata was more aware than I do. Hey, but

    • Abi

      Kokobe
      According to reliable sources you never had a queen. If you call Hayat a queen you automatically make her an Ethiopian. I’m questioning if you had any Ras in Eritrea?
      It’s all good.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Abo,

        Ya Habibi who told you so? Saba, is for you and for us.. Ta’aytu is our and yours.. all were for both.. why you want to separate our history? only HS and Mengstu are yours but not ours…Lol.. Ras also we had in Eritrea. And now we are preparing new one..

        wait wait what do you mean by Ras? Head? you are talking gold and wax here .. emmmm! Lol!

        • Abi

          Kokobe
          You sound like saying ” mirT mirTun lehitsanat”
          Endefeqadih yihun.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abye

            እና በስተርጅና ያልው በየትኛው ጥርሱ ያኝከው ? እንድያውም የ ፫ ሺ ኣዛውንት ! Lol.

  • Ayneta

    Dear Abraham:
    This wont surprise me a bit. Waite and see: the next step is for him to officially anoint his son as the next crown, on our face. Thanks to the idiots that worship him no matter what, the country will gracefully, undeniably accept it as the next best thing the maniac has in store for us. This is how nations slowly but surely succumb to complete chaos. Mark my words: if this guy remains undeterred, the country will only be for the books.The idiots like dawit, Nutricc, Hope will be there to cheer him up as he singlehandedly takes the country to abysmal darkness from which it wont be able to spring out.

    • Abraham H.

      Selamat Ayneta,
      I would agree what you wrote here is not far-fetched as things stand currently in Eritrea. We know Isayas doesn’t have a second in command, we also know the tyrant could discard a ratified contitution at single stroke of a sentence, and that he could effectlively dismantle a national assembly single handedly without the slightest of a protest from those around him, and those who worship and cheer him. So, yes, a North Korean style “Isayas dynasty” is probably what the mad man is contemplating about when he claims “ab werqawi eyobeliyo yerakibena”.

  • Asmerom

    Hi hope
    How confused , You always have to bring your uncles instead of focusing at the issue at hand.

  • Hope

    Selam all:
    The possible case scenarios for the motive/purpose Visit of the US Assit Secretary of State for African Affairs:
    “1- Talk between GoE and US resumes, due to the recent events the US may force Eritrea to change its stand against the US foreign policy and allow the US to establish the biggest military base in the most strategic location in the world…GoE may accept on a condition that the US will not dectate, interfere and meddle in Eritreans affair.

    2 – Whil the above point is entirely for the US interest, there is an absolute certainty Ethiopia will be in the agenda. The US may use the current strife between the two countries and may negotiate with GoE that if the US force Ethiopia to withdraw form the occupied territory what would Ethiopia get in return…such as access to the sea based on favourable terms, from Assab to Massawa for the purpose of potash export….there may be also an Israelis hand if this happen as the other side of the potash is owned by them…

    3 – Eritrea using the current resource finds card and allowing US and british companies to come and explore – this has been going for a while and we know the significant findings in the region…oil natural gas and other numerous resources…this is also the same from the Ethiopian side..

    4 – A combination of geographic location for strategic future and resources that makes the corporate America drooling the us has to take a step…toward benefits

    5 – The US and Ethiopia combination to twist Eritreans arm is not working …either go to a never ending war and ruin it for everyone or everyone brings thier own cards to the table and reach a consensus….

    6 – The US came to warn Eritrea that it will let the dogs out and in fact invade Eritrea using human rights as an excuse. ..this is also a posibiliy and may be an avoidable war ….but what is new! hope they come with a good deal for everyone.

    These my two cents and i trust that GoE don’t/won’t compromise on sovereignty as we paid so much so far……but accept some conditions for our long term benefits.”
    Courtesy of Birhane,TN.Com

    • Hayat Adem

      Hope,
      Since you are arguing for respect of rules, you should know that Awate.com posting rules prohobits copying and posting from other websites,

      • Hope

        Hayat:
        I just quoted with its source…and that is acceptable.
        You see, since you are so behind,i am trying to update you.

        • Hayat Adem

          Wrong Hope,
          Let me whisper it to your ears: even if you quote a source, they don’t allow copy and paste. Sometimes they allow a small portion of it to quote (a sentence, a paragraph) and URL when they feel being generous, but the entire write-up? Never. Trust me, between you and me, you are still there only because the moderator is asleep or destructed. We’ll see how long…

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Hope,
    I really want to help you out of your confusion. I will try that until I determine it is hopeless to do so. But I want you also to help me: think harder, deeper and put your resources where it matters most.
    Let’s talk about only three issues: Entitlement, Urgency and Vitality.
    1) Are we entitled to control and influence PFDJ or EPRDF? As Eritreans, do we have more say and power over PFDJ or EPRDF? And it is after we control rulers that we can also external excesses. So, please think strategically. If you are forced to give your support to PFDJ fearing EPRDF, you will never solve the PFDJ problem or overcome the fear f the EPRDF that seems to be eating you.
    2) Which one is more urgent: dealing with PFDJ or dealing with EPRDF? (hint: this should be determined based on what matters most and now to Eritrea and Eritreans. Additional hint: if we allow PFDJ 10 yrs from now doing what they are doing now, what will be the worst scenario for Eritrea and Eritreans? If we allow EPRDF to continue for 10 yrs doing what they are doing, what could be the worst thing that would happen to Eritrea and Eritreans?).
    3) Your issue with EPRDF is about a small village tand zero people. Our issue with PFDJ is about an entire country, about generations and the whole 3.5-6.5 million people. Which one should we save first: a village and zero number of people or a nation and millions, and generations?
    I hope that was helpful.

    • Hope

      Selamat Hayat:
      Here we go again.
      Considering all things:
      Which one is easier and less complicated and less damaging?
      1)Regime change by all means possible-including the invasion of Eritrea and its known and unknown collateral damages(imminent War, indeed)
      Or
      2)Enforce the
      – Constructive engagement
      -Respect the International law(vacate from the Sovereign land and normalize the relationship).
      A Second Grader will tell you:
      ‘Heavens NO,are you kidding me?
      -I would rather go for Option two as it:
      -noble
      -peaceful
      -No damage or destruction
      -no cost
      -very productive
      Vs
      -Wanton destruction of lives and property
      -Displacement of millions
      -Loss of Eritrean Sovereignty
      I know you and isem as well as Aman Hidrat do not care about the Eritrean Lives but destruction of the PFDJ at the expense of destroying Eritrea.
      I just heard that the death toll of the EDF members reached 48-50 as some 20-28 dies in the Hospital(the junky tigraionline put the number to 2-3000 from all fronts(Bure,baduma,Tserona).
      Well,I feel the pain not just I have no news about my younger brother stationed in the Baduma Front and my brother-in-law at Tserona front but the 48 EDF innocent Youth and the more than 120 wounded ones…..for NOTHING but you and iSem want to see that sitting in the comfort zone….

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Hope,
        You see, now I know that we can talk at closer range. I want you to have a look back on your note though. The points you put on 1 & 2 are not substitutes. They are not an either or issues. They are complementary. That means solving one helps solve the other. But you can start smart by solving the bigger and more rewarding.
        ————
        I’m of the view the panacea of all problems is removing PFDJ. That is the start of all good things to come, I say. Once we kicked PFDJ, we’ll have a sensible system that provides justice and rules by the law. And then the world will start respecting us and wishing us and even cooperating with us. That includes our neighbors.
        ————
        If you allow PFDJ to continue ruling disregarding justice and law, it is a mockery of emphasis to demand it from external actors. We can remove PFDJ and reinstate a sensible leadership and regime that at least can provide the basics: rule of law, basic freedom, peaceful neighborliness etc.
        ————
        I’m also of the belief that the start of all problems is PFDJ, be it internal or external. That tells where to start to intervene. There is no problem in Eritrea and the region that cannot be solved by fix PFDJ. So go and fix where it matter first.
        ————
        I am not sure about the accuracy of the causality figures you posted but war is real and it hurts real people whether you know them or not…could be brothers or brothers-in_laws. That is sad and I still hope your brother-in-law is unharmed. But we all know there are some casualties, dead or wounded. PFDJ has been good at producing wars, conflicts and confrontations all the time. That is a skill they have perfected since Meidda. So that part of them will never surprise me a sit is their way of living best. What surprises me most is to see a normal person like me and you supporting them even today, after witnessing and experiencing them for years. For the life of me, that is a puzzle.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hayat,

      Are you really trying to make hope a “rational person “? It is a heck of insurmountable task. If you task yourself for it, you will be disappointed and regret of wasting your precious time. Think about it.

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes Emma, how are you doing. I will be working hard to process Hope and I promise to give you a purified of him who sees what we see.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Hayat,
          I trust you in everything you said but not in this one.. if you do then that is a miracle. I rather chose to change IA than hope..Lol. IA might surrender soon when he notice he is no where… then only Hope will come to his sense.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Selam Emma, KS and Hayat

        Here is what I think you guys need to do. Hope is among the most well informed rational people around. He is also full of COURAGE and Gut. Having said that, often it is an irrational to pass a judgment that someone is irrational. It all depends on someone’s perspective. For instance it was irrational for Eritreans to think it was possible to win the war of independence. But Eritreans thought else. Having said that:

        1. Don’t try to convert people to your views, try to find area of mutual interest. I see that there are many areas you could carry on productive dialogue with cousin Hope. Hope’s disagreement with you on some issue may in fact indicate Cousin Hope’s super-rationality…how about that Emma.

        2. Guy’s there is a miracle, OK, let Gual Adem make her magic. She will succeed only in understanding where the communality stops and where individuality begins. If Gual Adem thought she could “process Hope “and ” promise to give” Emma the “purified of him who sees” exactly what you guys see, it will be a waste of time, I think.There are areas of the spectrum that Hope and you see, and there is other area where you guys have different acuity and depending on that you won’t agree unless you exchange views with respect.
        Good Day.

        • iSem

          MS;
          Good! irrational means wild dream. I am glad. And that what I meant when I said your dream was wild just like the oppostion.

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Mahmuday,
          Options with Hope
          1) convert him
          2) widening commonness
          3) understanding him more
          4) give up on him
          I am investing on the first and i will adjust aa the case maybe.
          Mahmuday, You are duly noted for your effort of encouraging him not to consider to change.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Hayat
            I would go for 3 (first step), and then 2 (second step). Converting? I don’t think so, unless you offer him special ShaHan ful and and the sweet Kerenite shaHi; I doubt though cousin Hope the greatista would settle for these things. So, you have got to have the GUT and COURAGE to understand him as he is, and then work your way out. iSem is going to spoil the engagement, though.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet Mahmud
            Where is my sambusa you promised me last Ramadan?
            I’m one of those qum neger alba people who love to talk to Cousin Hope because I care less about what he says. I just like him. He is genuinely gerager.
            My question to you and those who never give up on Cousin is which Hope are they going to convert or understand? He is a self declared flip flopping expert.
            Guys, don’t give up hope!!!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam abi
            Next time around Ramadan you happen to go to Addis, tell me; we will have it in Addis Sheraton. I will let you know when I travel to Massawa. It’s going to be at Gorgusum Hotel. Meanwhile, consider any Dabo you eat after sunset “Ye Mahmuday sambusa” .
            The thing, dear abi, rigidity is the simplest form of expressing political contrast;Bush style. You are either here or there, you are either with us or against us. You ask anyone to define the “us” and they will describe it in a way that makes themselves representing the universal us. Do all opponents of PFDJ agree 100% to HA, Emma,..SemA…version of opposition; do they all agree to one eventuality and the strategies that lead to the “eventuality anyway? Do they have to? Hope isn actually simple. He is not that flip-flopping. Hope’s character comprises two virtues, and no vice.
            1. He is a nationalist
            2. He is a justice seeker.
            Both of the above are not contradictory. Unfortunately, some of his opponents do not see those two complementing each other and that’s the problem. They think Eritreans are not able to get rid of PFDJ because they are too nationalists. Hence, they associate nationalism with PFDJ. I did my best in this forum to alert folks of this fallacy. Well, I have argued that we should not surrender nationalist virtues and values to PFDJ. I have gotten very few ears and one of them is cousin Hope. Now, I have to stop here, because I’ve already been accused by iSem and Kim Hana for diverting the discussion.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet
            You know how much I love dabo!!!
            Vet, if you eat dabo after sun set you don’t call it ” Ye Mahmuday ” sambusa. It should be ” Ye Mahmunight” sambusa.
            If we meet in Addis let’s make it at Hyatt Addis. It will take some time until it is completed. For some reason I like the name Hyatt or anything close to it. In the mean time I like the idea of Massawa. My First Lady can’t stop talking about it. I tell her she will visit again once we take over. Soon.
            Back to Hope Gerageru
            He is a nationalist and I love it. We need more nationalist who defend their country.
            BTW, you are doing fine. I’ve been following the war closely. You were lucky the queen was not around last couple of weeks. Consider it a Ramadan gift.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam abi
            Hey abi, the queen has reclaimed her Eritreanness, and certainly she is more than welcome back. The problem is that we Eritreans have not had queens in the past; just a bunch of Ras’s and their equivalent lowlanders’ royalties. But I think she could make a good queen. BTW, Hyatt is my kids’ favorite hotel, I don’t know why they like it. Of course, I like the lounge, and the glassy wall, apart from that, I don’t know.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet
            Degmo leErtrawi meche Ras anesew?
            Esum sibeza new!!

            Your children have got a great taste. It is from their mother.
            Hayat can be a great queen depends on the King . She can be like Etege Tayitu.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet
            You sure you had any Ras? I really doubt it.
            Lemin Ras atbederum?
            Lemin? Lemin? Lemin!!!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo Me’Arey,

            እንዴ ራስ እማ በዝቶብናል !! እንዲያውም ችግራችን እኮ የራስ መብዛት ነው :: የናንተ ችግር ደግሞ የዓይን መብዛት ! ራስ የሌለው ዓይን–Lol-ምኑ ላይ ተቀመጠ ኣትለኝም?

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Ras bibeza kulalit kelelew
            Min fayda alew?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo shikor,

            ኩላሊቱን ‘ማ እድሜ ለ ኣብየ ህዝብ እንበደራለን :- 90 ሚልዮን ህዝብ 180 ሚሊዮን ኩላሊት ምን ያደርግለታል :-

            ኣሁን ያንተን መልስ መገመት እችላለሁኝ – ግን ከተስማሙ ሁሉም ይበቃል ::

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Ay yante neger!
            You missed it . Abet ( Abiet) chewata staqorefid!
            Amde is laughing at you . Scroll up and see what Amde said to me and see if you get it. Never mind, you don’t get it . It is beyond your level of Aradigna. ( just kidding)
            He said to me ” Alecha kulalit “. Basically he said that I’m smart. ( thanks, Amde. You ain’t kidding) . When someone says ” Alecha kulalit “, he usually point his finger to his head ( Ras, chinqlat). In short, I said you don’t think.
            Phew! The worst thing in this world is to explain a joke to some balager. Now, don’t jump! I said you have a country.
            Balager!
            Next question?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo,

            ሒድ የማን ሞኝ ነህ! ኣሁንም ገና ኣልገባሽም – ፋራ ! ኣመድ በርግጥ ገብቶታል ::

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Alhedim! Mehed lantem albejeh!
            Woy niqniq!!!
            Amed beduqet sisiq,
            Libu benefas wulq!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo,
            when you are in trouble you sake refuge to your Latin alpha Amharic poems ..Lol. but here I love the way you send the massage — who told you I have gone? where did I go? to Mars? I right there I only remove you Ha ha ha . I told you to come back by asking permission and you will be treated as guest –

            ኣልኩለሃ !
            ከኣባት ከኣያት ውርሻ ማን ፍቅዶ ይለቃል –
            የጀግኖቹ ልጂ ምን ብሎ ይገዛል –
            ዘማች ቢታጠቅም ኣፍሮ ይመለሳል –
            ጎሮቤትን ኣክብሮ መኖሩ ይበጃል –

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Kifu goreber erasin yaschilal
            Berun Tebeq argo mezgatu yibejal
            Balehibet sitregT yehedk meslohal
            Abatochu dagnoch
            Lijochu qebegnoch
            Yeras ej nekashoch
            Gira yetegabu, gira agabiwoch!
            Lib adkamiwoch!

            Kokobe you didn’t go to Mars. Nah, you went to the stars looking for peace.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo,
            Lol you won the war. you kill me now. ኣንቺ ደደብ ብስሜ መጣሽብኝ ኣይደል! ቆይ ታየኛለህ ::

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            You won the peace! Yours is better.
            Yeqenyeley.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Ra’s abi
            I am told so, but I doubt it too. They were all envoys of the land south of the Mereb or across the sea. But that’s fine because we never claim we have existed for the last 3000 years. What’s interesting about this 3000 years thing is that it never budges moving forward, like 3050, 3100… 3150 and so on. when was the first time this number was invented /discovered? I think we are more believable. OK, we say we were constituted by force (yes, that’s true, by force) in 1890. Living through many “care takers”, we got our independence in 1991. And we have had since only one Ras.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet
            That 3000 year thing was first invented 3000 years ago.

            I noticed you got only one Ras.

          • Solomon Haile

            Selamat Ras MaHmood,

            1991 – 1890 = 101.

            Shall we then call this course: Eritrean Nationalism 101?

            The General in his angry retort said something of Hope’s “Psycholology 000” I was floored.

            Yes Hope is indeed smarter than all of us but Hope is 100% PFDJ. I am willing to bet to be hit on the back of my head, I.e. beheaded.

            tSAtSE

          • Hope

            Thanks Sellie:
            Minor correction:
            Hope is an EPLFite and an Ex-PFDJ.
            Am not smarter than any one else but an Enthusiastic Learner with an Independent Mind Set as well as a “Challenger” within a reasonable limit/scope, who knows his weaknesses and limitations..

          • iSem

            Melhey MS
            I had do Alfatiha for Hope last night
            Now I saying harm alleleka gamma da to say I were accused by isem
            Zintil bsay use kemamlol lol

          • Hayat Adem

            Hello Sweet Abi,
            Come on now, don’t discourage me. The objective of maximizing the likelihood of Hope flip flopping more frequently towards the sensible side should be considered a noble engagement.
            I once read a nice joke from a literature in the Arab world. There was this guy called Nasradine who got bored of his life. Then he wanted to spice it up a bit with some adventure that involves a high risk. But he was bored to death so he was ready for any eventuality. The he went to a mansion owned by a powerful and wealthy Sultan who lives nearby. He presented himself to the Sultan claiming he would offer a unique service that popularizes more the power of the Sultan. Nasradine was then asked to describe and explain what he was up to.
            “Your Highness, I have a unique skill that worthy of your attention. If given a chance, I will teach your donkey how to write and read in a year time. You will be the first Sultan in the world to a own a donkey that writes and reads.”
            “How is that possible? Are you trying to full the Sultanate? Do you know what the punishment is for such a joke?”
            “Yes you highness. I am a very educated man and I also know how powerful you are. I can’t possibly joke with a sword on my neck if I was not sure I could do it. I know the consequences of coming here in front of you and claim to do what is undoable. I’m here saying I could teach your donkey because I’m confident that I can do this.”
            “Okay, then, you said it will take you a year. What support do you need to accomplish the task?”
            Nasradine gave a list of what he needed: a good house, beautiful women, a lot of money and the donkey. He asked not to be bothered before one year and the deal is to deliver his service exactly a year after. In this his mind, Nasradine thought one year of a quality life is much better than a lousy life of many years. So he knew he can’t teach a donkey reading and writing, and therefore his failure would be punishable by beheading but he was okay with it.
            Fast forward, he was left with one week to deliver a donkey that learned to write and read. His friends were extremely worried by what will happen a week after and went to visit to Nasrradine to advise him to flee.
            But Nasradine resisted. He was explaining his to his friends why.
            “My friends, you are ruining my last week with your unnecessary fear and worries.”
            “How so?” one of his friends asked.
            “Well, I lived my one year life exactly as i planned full of happiness and joy. And I want to do the same with the remaining week.”
            “What about after that? The will behead you for sure. You know that, don’t you?”
            “Well, that is one possibility but not the only one. In this remaining week, I may die of natural causes. Or the donkey may die of natural causes. Or the Sultan may die this week due to illness or fighting his enemies somewhere. Or who knows, the donkey may learn how to write and read.”
            Abi, now I shared this story with you and others, why do you want me to give on Hope? He hasn’t taken that name for no reason. it is when he is hinting us not give up hoping on Hope.
            Good to see you here Sweet Abi,
            Hayat

          • Abi

            Hi Qonjit
            Let me guess where you read that joke?
            The book is ” The Arabs” by David Lamb. A very interesting book I recommend for everyone who wants to laugh except Ato Amanuel Hidrat. He is too serious .
            There was a guy I knew long time ago who never hesitate to borrow some money from people. He always says ” woy abedari woy tebedari yimotal ” . He also says ” abedarihn tenkebakebew”.
            This is his punch line when you ask him why he always borrow money?
            ” enkuwan ene mengistim tebedro new yemiyastedadrew”.
            Good to hear from you.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Hayat, abi, iSem, and Guest
            Found on online forums, similar to abi’s tebedari’s dilemma.
            كان جحا يقوم بتدريس ابنك الملك قواعد اللغه العربيه والقراءه والكتابه, وبعد فتره من التدريس اراد ان يرى الملك ما ذا حل بابنه وهل اصبح جهبذ في اللغه, وقام الملك بطلب جحا مع ابنه(ابن الملك) ليتم اختبار ابنه, وبعد الاختبار اتضح للملك ان ابنه ما زاد الا غباء على غباءه, فغضب الملك من جحا وامر بحبسه لعدم كفأته كمعلم , ولكن جحا ارجع السبب الى ابن الملك وانه لا يمكن له ان يتعلم ,فازداد الملك غضبا وامر بضرب عنق جحا, وما كان من جحا الا ان قال في اخر فرصه له ان لو علم حمارا لفهم اكثر من ابن الملك وراهن الملك على ذلك , ففرح الملك ان وجد هذه الفرصه على جحا,
            وقال له واذا لم تستطيع ان تعلم الحمار القراءه والكتابه فساضرب عنقك.
            ففرح جحا مع ان اغلب المتواجدين حزنوا على حاله.
            وطلب جحا من الملك فرصه وانه سيثبت له ان الحمار( وانتم بكرامه) سيتعلم فنون اللغه العربيه, ولكن طلب من الملك 10 سنوات وبعدها يتم اختبار الحمار, وان لم يتعلم فللملك الحق في ضرب عنقه.

            الكل يلوم جحا على هذا الموقف الذي ورط جحا فيه نفسه, ولكن جحا قال لهم:
            10 سنوات يامات الملك, يامت انا , يامات الحمار
            Translation (keep iSem away, please, it’s not a literal one): Juha was a teacher of Arabic Graamar and reading to a King’s son.After a while the king wants to see his son’s success/preparedness. So, the king summons both Juha the teacher and the king son for a test. After the test, it became to the king that his son had worsened in his stupidity. The king was angry at Juha and ordered him to be imprisoned for his failure in his teaching. Joha though protested the decision of the king; he blamed the failure to the king’s son, for his inability to learn. The king became even angrier. The king ordered Juha to be beheaded (hit on the neck). At the last moment, Juha comes with a [smart ] proposal to the king. Juha proposed if he could teach a donkey better than the king’s son (to demonstrate that the failure was squarely from the king’s side and not from him). The king gambled (thought), but was happy about the proposal. The king said to Juha, if you don’t teach a donkey how to read and write, I will hit your neck. The attendants in the kings court felt sorry for Juha because they thought he wouldn’t be able to teach a donkey and that his fate was sealed anyway. Juha then informed the king that the process of teaching the donkey would take 10 years. Again, the attendant blamed Jha for putting himself in that unattainable situation. But Joha explained: In ten years, either the king, the donkey or I will die.
            Now, let me say this: definitely, cousin Hope is not “Humar” or donkey. And Hayat’s analogy does not fit the situation, although it’s a classic tale told through Hayat’s flawless language. Dear Hayat you are in trouble, resque the thread before cousin Hope unleashes his COURAGE and GUT. Hope’s only relation with donkey are:
            a/ his donkey which he used to fetch fire wood in Keren
            b/ his share of gene pool that we all share with Mr.donkey.
            Other than that, the character in Hayat’s tale does not fit Cousin Hope. Hayat, you have not presented a feasible strategy, and that’s because you have not started with the right approach. If you have Juha’s calculation then you are just doing it for the heck of it knowing that it’s undoable (if you start from the premise that Hope is akin to donkey). Instead, start from the premise that Hope is a smart person, may as well be smarter than us. I think following my strategy is the right way: knowing him, widening commonality…then the rest steps.
            This has been a weekend Hateta.

          • Hayat Adem

            No Mahmuday, you are a bad PM. That donkey represents no one, let alone Hope. Like you, I also believe Hope is a smart guy, and smarter than myself in many areas. Hope is out of question in this analogy but I would be very stupid to liken a fellow human being of any intellect level to an animal. i guess I brought that story to entertain Abi for the most part.
            BTW thanks for presenting it better and with background, and thanks for that.

          • Hope

            Selamat Gual Aboy Adem:
            Speaking of donkeys and camels, the only thing I can say is that I am more than proud to have a donkey and a camel as my companies as I could not have,along with my family, survived without both of them.
            The same applies to our Sewra.
            I started riding my donkey at the age of 6 or so to fetch water and fire wood, getting up early at 5AM so as to catch up my School at 7am.
            Then, either in the afternoons or Saturdays, I used to ride my donkey to fetch firewood, a Classic Life Style of Sub-Urban/Countryside Keren kids.
            This is in addition to fetching firewood carrying on my shoulder or head while herding/going after goats on my way home late in the afternoon/early evening..
            I will never forget the life style I spent with my Beni’Amir(Mini Amir) friends/shepherds reaching(from River Shitel) as far as Hirkok and Gherewit and Indirsay Hills and Mountains past the Plains of Debb’et–the endless Gash Barka Plains.
            It was a blessing, indeed, to roll over and down to the Plains of Alafit,Adimay–all the way to –Gash Barka Plains during the Summer Vacation looking after our Beghayit /cows—until I am/was done with my College!
            This is also NOT to mention helping my Dad to plough our land with a pair of Oxen as well as running after the fastest goats under the sun in the Mountains of JarHabin,Shaluku,JarAmba and all the way to the tip of Emba Sillasie .
            Even when I moved to Keren for good to attend Middle School at Atse Dawit Secondary School, I never ceased riding my donkey to fetch water from Ela Fre and some Hatela and Ghilleff(forgot the right term-?) for our Stalla Cows from Gheza Wereket!
            Ohhh yeah,what a Nostalgia—–and enjoyable past….
            .
            In the event, while appreciating his solidarity and support,Mahmuday has nothing to do with my Independent Stand and nekk zeyibil Metkeley..but I do see/consider him as my Role Model along with the two salihs..Beyond that, leave him alone and try to be yourselves,and target the main ” culprit” alone, the ONLY and the ONLY one-Hope..

          • Amde

            Selam Abi,

            “Hope gerageru” is one of the most precise characterizations on this forum.

            “Allecha kulalit!”

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            Getaw endet kermewal?
            ” Neber bayiseber “

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Hayat,

            Do not use the word “to convert” or try to convert him. Instead play “to mimic” and activate his rational mind. For Mahhmuday and hope convert means to switch from one belief to the other, akin to religious switch. Convert always goes with faith, and in faith there is no rationality and provable argument. So if you opt to deal with him avoid the concept “convresion “. Then follow 2 ,3 & 4 as you have set out the sequence of your approach. Goof luck in your effort.

            Regardd
            Amsnuel Hidrat

      • Thomas D

        Hi Amma,

        I agree I would not spend a minute of my time talking with someone who is dying to get attention. He spends 24/7 floating this website with those phrases or outlined little comments of his. In trying take attention, he throws few words to show that he is an opposition figure as well. Those words are simply to deceive first time visitors of this website. Immediately, he writes those thousands of phrases defying the weyanes, opposition and everyone else who is on his way or have different opinion than his. I strongly think that the best to deal with him is to just ignore him. I would be surprised what he would have done if everyone visiting this website was to take a week break from this site. He would be talking with himself. I don’t think he is getting any of the attention he is seeking to get from those who are physically located near him:)

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Hope,
    Let’s move up

  • Hope

    xxxxxxx salutation

  • sara

    Dear awtistas–
    Ramadan kareem!
    I read here and there Geneva this Geneva that, while Europe is now busy talking the Britt exit… enshab men eorpa al ugma.., what is your say, khali saleh y , bes’ baedel eftar… geblel esha .

    • Hope

      xxxxxxxx salutation

  • Hayat Adem

    My Friend Hope,
    Let’s do some matching exercise:
    Dishonesty – cheating, lying, untrustable personality, stealing
    Mercenary – working for money and other rewards
    No need to hurry, take your time to match them correctly.
    ———–
    You said everyone needs to “Respect of International Law and Norms”. Good. But do you also know committing crime against humanity is one form and serious way of violating intl law and norms. Destabilizing and terrorizing the neighborhood is one form and serious way of violating intl law and norm. Enslaving your own people, extra judicial and incommunicado detention for years; etc are all contrary to the law and norms.
    You said, “Eritrean sovereignty needs to be respected.” I agree but usually it is a matter reciprocity. When you respect them they respect you. Also please remember Eritrean sovereignty is mainly about the Eritrean people than the land.
    ———-
    By “Eritreans’ suffering at the hands of PFDJ and beyond”, I mean those who are directly being abused and hurt to by the regime and the ones that get hurt on their way while fleeing and migrating or even after they arrived in their destinations such as those in Israel.
    ———-
    Are you serious a 2nd grader can educate me on geopolitics? Thank you because only kind people advise to go to whom they think is more resourceful if they can’t offer it themselves. That is honesty at its best.
    Cheers.

  • Abi

    Hope Gerageru
    You know I’m always ready to execute the “Order Of The Queen Of Sheba”. To bring back the Solomonic Dynasty!!! Bring Dagmawi Hailesilassie back to the throne!!! At the same time bring Eritrea back from the winter chill, the darkness, the loneliness back to the warm and cozy wings of Mama Ethiopia!!! You do better under some kind of supervision. It was a colossal mistake to let you govern yourself. It is like letting underage children drink . You failed miserably!! Time to fill out the application to come back.
    Get ready to execute the Queen’s Order.
    The collective madness you called independence should be reversed for your own sake.
    Long live the Queen!!
    Take it easy.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Solomon Haile,
    .
    You must be a professor too, because after reading it a couple of times I am still not sure if I got everything. Well, no matter, I will respond to what I got.
    .
    Your remark about my uneducated judgment of Mahumud Saleh is the point I want to respond to. Sir, I am a graduate student of Awate University. I consider Mahmud Saleh to be one of the professors for a period of time here. His lectures are long and heavy but I endured and learned.
    .
    What he did this week may not be “necessarily” diversion and distraction as you put it, but was a common diversion and distraction nevertheless. It was going parallel in real time with PFDJ, for Christ’s sake. The result proves my point.
    .
    Now, there was a remark you made in another post somewhere about Ali Salim that took me aback. If that is the same man who had written articles here at Awate, I don’t like that man, so that you know.
    You also sort asked me if I am an Ethiopian, yes I am.
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • Abi

    Hope Nebsi
    You really don’t have anything new to discuss. To make it worse you are referring the QUEEN to consult a second grader Eritrean. I hope she does just after she is done with the first grader. One grade level at a time.

  • iSem

    Hope:
    You said;”Let me correct the sentence structure :Hayat ignores the Suffering of ERITREANS incurred upon by the WEYENTI!”
    Still she, HA is ahead of you , she at least DID not ignore teh suffering of ERITREAN incurred by PFDJ”. Next she will admit the suffering of ERITREANS incurred by WEYENT!, she ivolves, facts change she evolves and you have still to admit the suffering of ERITREANS incurred by ERITREANs.
    So Catch hope

    • Hope

      iSem:
      Are you the same “two people” with different nicks?
      It sounds like that.
      I care less if HA is ahead of me or behind.
      The truth of the matter is that the culprits ate both the weyenti and the PFDJ and that is what I have said time immemorial.
      But you both are deliberately twisting facts for your convenience.
      There is No 1 or 2 but equally have messed up Eritrea and Eritreans and Tewelde Ghebremariam can help you with that if you cannot comprehend Hope’s English.Gen Nittric hinted you.
      Why was the TPLF angry when wed Ali did what he did?
      Re-read my below response to you when you adored the mercenary Mike Smith….and answer my questions…or concerns.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hello Hope,

        Sometimes, hyperbole is tolerated, but not when every other sentence is hyperbolic. It’s just an advice. Could you care to explain how Mike Smith is a mercenary? I seriously want to know and if you can prove it, I apologize in advance. I truly want to see your supporting evidence.

        • Hope

          BTW,SGJ,thank you for teaching me a “new” word-called “hyperbolic”.

      • iSem

        Hope:
        Are you accusing me of being HA, which means are you accusing me of being non-Eritrean and so on?
        Well, your attacks on Mike Smith was wrong, I just told Sal that Mr, Smith was breath taking when he employed some rhetorical device when he said his: So long,,,,,. I could not remember the name of the device but it is one of those that does not let your stop reading and it was captivating and also his concluding remarks was also masterful. Do you see any thing wrong with that
        You concerns
        COI was not mandated to look into the “unfair sanctions” and the sanctions is not illegal, they did not break any laws
        which international law has been violated?
        You know when you damp your vacillating personality here, I stare at the sky or the roof, depending where I am, open my two palms side by side and I utter some intelligible speak, intelligible to those around me and Mzugus but I say something to the sky or roof, Q? Do you know what it is? It is about it? If you do not know, I will help you, I will tell you

        You are in the wrong side of history, just like those who were on the wrong side of history when Dergi was in Eritrea,
        Sanction, I hope they get renewed and the sanction were not against the Eritrea people, you know it, I hope Ethiopia does not make stupid mistake and withdraw from where they are, their occupation have no bearing on why PFDJ is committing crimes against humanity and I hope your keep living the life that has become intricately woven into your personality, so we know behind the veil there is Hope, there is Truth that exoduce neither hope nor tells the truth

        • Hope

          iSem:
          I would care less about your origin or nationality.
          My simple argument is that:
          -Besides the PFDJ,the TPLF and its Masters have contributed tremendously to our Misery.
          Do you want me to say ha hu hi ha hie h ho?
          you know exactly what I am talking about.
          But :
          -to tell me that what the TPLF and its master have done to Eritrea has nothing to do with our misery, the Youth exodus,etc– is but absurd.
          -Every Eritrean Intellectual and Professional in the world including all the Opposition Figures and parties including my EPDP has officially declared that:
          -the sanction
          -the economic sabotage
          -the NO war No Peace Policy
          -the Policy of Containment and Isolation
          etc—have contributed immensely directly or indirectly to the over all mess and suffering of Eritreans.
          For God’s sake:
          -If the EDF is not allowed to even buy spare parts for its Air Force
          -If Eritrea cannot secure the EU Development Fund so as to build Vocational Schools and create jobs and to improve Governance and Businesses
          -If Eritreans are ENCOURAGED to run for a “FREE RIDE” to the Green Pasture by USA/Pres Obama and the EU but then cry crocodile tears as if Eritrea or the PFDJ is pushing them to run away
          -If the TPLF is occupying not only baduma but most of tsorona area Villages and infiltrates every day our borders. Through its mercenary so called freedom fighters, rather TERRORISTS backed up by the TPLF Commando..
          -If the TPLF threats to invade Eritrea on a daily basis and has kept its declared war Active Open(in their own words)but then at the same time cry crocodile tears about the extended national service and worst petitioning against the EU Funds to help to rehab those victims of extended national service…
          etc—
          Despite all these facts, to ignore the destructive role of the Weyane and its Masters is ,what now?
          Hypocrisy at will or BIGOTRY!
          Besides fighting for Justice for ALL and against the PFDJ,what we are calling for is :
          -Respect of International Law and Norms
          -Constructive Engagement
          -Respect the EEBC and our Sovereignty
          -Persuade and even force the TPLF to abide by the Rule of Law rather than discriminating and applying double standard as their modus operandi
          -help Eritrea to get out of the cold, isolation and containment rather than enforcing the same evil agenda. And at the same time accusing the same victim.

          • iSem

            Hope:
            I am still doing that for your, looking at the sky or the roof, opening my two palms side by side and whispering something:-)

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Hope,
    -Abi is doing things to you. Watch it before it is too late.
    -All the comments I write here must tell about me and my beliefs. If you are looking for one shop, refer to Hayat’s Manifesto.
    -What history?
    -I speak on behalf of myself and Eritreans at large as a member of the society and as I see it best. I’ve a single voice, equal to that of yours.
    -I never advocated for invasion. But it is no unworldly to ask one nation to invade another nation. There have been a lot of times it had been done. And it is not always wrong and crazy. It all depends if you you can do a bigger purpose for a greater good. That is at least in theory. But, I never advocated for a nation to be invaded by another.
    -I never ignore the suffering of Eritreans nor belittle it. All what I say point to those sufferings of Eritreans at the hands of the PFDJ and beyond.
    -Why do you want me to speak for the next door? Why? You know what, after all you are right: I must say something about them as well: Ethiopia is committing crimes against humanity (the UN COI for Ethiopia has investigated and determined it); Ethiopians are subjected to forced labor and enslavement indefinitely; Ethiopia has shoot to kill policy on who ever dares to cross to Eritrea but still 3k-5k Ethiopians flee to Eritrea every month (Figures from UNHCR); There is no private press in Ethiopia and the editors and political leaders have been locked in incommunicado for 15 yrs; The Ethiopian constitution has been killed while in shelf; etc… Are you happy now? Lol.
    ————————————
    Hope, what good do you see in PFDJ? Really, I mean it. You were so close to see them for what they are when the 4 fathers exposed it with that “Hawka Abey Allo?” document that went viral. The reason why it was viral was because of the powerful truth it carried. I remembered your comments then, questioning the sanity of PFDJ. Since then, nothing changed except the disappearance more Haws and Haftys. If you try to analyse PFDJ’s fall off grace since 1991 or since 1998, or since 2001, it has always been oriented to one direction, south and south and more south. This trend points to the inevitable downfall. Then you will be left with Eritrea, Eritreans and the neighbors. You don’t to have to be in cahoot with PFDJ: 1) they don’t deserve your support as they are criminals; 2) your support is not going to save as they will be put out of action soon.

  • Thomas D

    Hi Awate,

    The time the young Eritreans of these many started to demonstrate against the dictatorial leadership and asking the world in unison to take the dictatorial government to ICC, it shows we have hit the turning point. Thus, Dictator Issayas and his puppets need to leave our country and run to Zimbabwe or to other African nations where run away dictators gather:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4068-h9Dgs

  • iSem

    Hope:
    AKbar semako
    hope teayena beleteni letigrayet esiche
    lalal belko,laken haqo qerako
    Amenko
    Hope;
    Are you out of your mind,commenting mindlessly?
    Who are you? You are who you say you are to me, and so is Hayat
    And HA does not ignore the suffering of Eritreans,
    About the atrocieties by next door, as you say let us not interfere on their business, why do not you focus on the abuse of your people by their government?
    Do you believe the 800 people or are you still ayyak neabdu IA (we worship you IA)

  • Halewa Sewra

    Dear Awatistas,

    Interesting article in the New York Times Op-ed page where BRONWYN BRUTON argues against recommending the shoddy human rights report to the ICC. She gives some good reasons actually. Good read. Apparently, the 200,000 strong that showed up in Geneva were photographed by many Western journalists and are being cited as one reason why it’s actually not that bad in Eritrea, though things do need to improve. Give it a read.

    • saay7

      Selamat Halewa Sewra:

      I have penned a reply—remote chance it will be published by the New York Times, since I don’t work for a Western think tank. But consider this:

      Last year, in a VOA interview, Bronwyn Bruton completely dismissed the idea that the Government of Eritrea supported Al Shabab. She presented herself as a “Somalia expert” when she made that claim.

      Now that she is an “Eritrea expert”, she is walking that back and saying in the NYT oped you mentioned:

      The Eritrean government didn’t help its case by giving military support to Al Shabab, a Somalia-based affiliate of Al Qaeda; it’s been under sanctions as a result.

      This comes on top of her recent admission that Eritrean government encourages migration of its youth.

      What I don’t understand is this: why is it that Eritreans–whether they support or oppose the government– only consider news, opinion credible when it is said by a Westerner? Why does the Government of Eritrea not allow Eritreans an opportunity to visit their imprisoned family members but allows Westerners? Do you now understand why we think that the straightest line between our mouths to the government’s ears must pass through Western eyes and ears?

      saay

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Saay,

        If NYT did not publish your response to Bronwyn Burton, please try either in LAT or Washington post. These lipstick of dictators must be exposed their dishonesty. They are detrimental to our effort in the international stage. They are paid agent to cover up the heinous and inhumane act of the regime.

        Regards
        Amanuel Hidrat

        • PTS

          Aman,
          Western newspapers don’t care much about Africans and their issues. I think SAAY should send his reply to Awate.com and send the link to Miss Burton in twitter. Then she will come here to reply, if SAAY’s content impresses her.

    • Hope

      Selam Halewa Sewra:
      I do not believe that the showing up of the crowd will change the facts/crimes that the PFDJ committed as they are facts and well documented.
      My concern with the COIE is about its biased approach and its exaggerated reports of RAPE and Enslavement and calling Eritrea as a Nation a THREAT to International Peace(decoded: a Terrorist Nation)and this is a very serious coded message,btw.
      Mind you ,Eritrea as a nation and by default Eritreans can be implicated as terrorists.
      I enjoyed that commentary by Ms Bruton and I do NOT see any bias but quite a well balanced and honest one and very constructive advice as well..
      “Eritrea is bad but not too bad as people believe”.

  • iSem

    Hi All:

    http://www.tesfanews.net/200000-petitioners-slam-sickening-coi-eritrea-report/

    Many are still in wrong side of history, hoisting the dictator’s photos, swaddling their bodies in the piece of cloth, the flag that has become the symbol of repression and crimes against humanity.
    But do not be fooled by these fools, they are also victim’s captive of their own conciones, and given the close knit society that Eritrea is, a close relative, or a loved one is one of the 800 witness.
    Just like the opposition, these renegades are from all the society, from every ethic group and from every religion. The fight is against good and evil and not against one ethnic group.
    Do not be fooled by the numbers either, remember the support Hilter had, remember the support that Saddam had, remember the support the Gaddafi had when they were on the cusp of been purged by the society, it is just the supporters are motivated by the darkness of loosing the grip of criminality to which they are addicted. Ad drug addict will steal, will kill, will device ways to sustain the addiction because quitting is better but harder, he is doing what is coming to him easily, the entrenched habit of addition
    All hoopla that you see from the accused and their supporters is not in support of Eritrea, it is in support of saving their own skin and interest and to do that they will fight tooth to nail, with every drop of their sweat, with every atom of their being.
    If the goons are referred to ICC, it will be the best accomplishment by Eritreans today as measured by the triumph against the worst kind of crimes against our people since the creation of our nationhood

    • Solomon Haile

      Selamat General iSEM,

      I couldn’t help but notice a sort of walking back of a statement in your share here when you say the supporters are from “all walks of life.” The cause of this I personally reduced to be the recent scrimish/battle, AND not war, between MaHmood SaliH and mainly Berhe Yeman, though the close presence of AH, KS and yourself was there. Now I must credit MaHmooday for “fighting like hell” as he put it to gain some ground.

      I personally am very familiar with the terrain that this current battle has been waged as we have done it a decade or so ago with Fareed, BY and company as well. What I find ironic is how BY was fighting like hell back then but in direct opposition of his current ferocity and or implications. Back then it was yours truly that was warning awate.com and awatistas of the potential Eritreans of Christian and or Highlander’s background of playing the political card of Eritrea’s affinity to Ethiopia’s ruling class and consequently leave Eritrea out in the cold by not honnering IT’s true creed of justice and equitable distributions of all Eritrea has to offer to all it’s citizens.

      Saay speaks of Ms. Burton’s “walking back” the Somalian Al Shebab thing in order for her to remain consistent with her credentials as an African expert. The ever foraging SaliH should know I do recognize the necessity of convincing the minds of the Mazungu’s Intelligencia for the achievement of the end sought. And yes there is a hint of the occasional checking the great Saay in my statement now as well as a vindication of some sort of falulat such as my self and Ali Salim. It is the same as charging “the website of the accused murderers, rapist…” having one language for internal consumption and another for external as HaileTG reminded me in his guidance of Hope’s compass.
      Well for whatever it is worth let it “shook shook and something may it produce…” You know AH’s teHaQuinu TeHaWuinu gele negger…

      By the way I thoroughly enjoyed reading your back and forth with Bahlibi in Tigrigna— I called it a draw.

      I would like to say the conundrum of the COI and ICC is one that is pitting the Political Vs. Justice FOR THE VICTIMS that the state of Eritrea’s political leadership MUST SHOULDER — And that includes the great swayers of citizen’s hearts and minds such as the FREE PRESS (wait I hear my dad dawit shouting IA’s “there is no such thing as free press”)

      So my dear General you have your marching orders. Charge!

      PS: I had some free time at Mosswood Park sitting on the grass as they are preparing for the Boogaloo Festival this weekend. Now I will check the boogaloo in Geneva.

      tSAtSE

  • tes

    Dear Awatawyan and dear Saleh Johar,

    I have one remark that I always wanted to pinpoint. It is on the symbol chosen by EPDP. I can imagine what this party has put is meant for unity, the unity of different forces. However it’s choice is full of confusion, a confusion between symbol of the tyrant and EPLF.

    It is time now EPDP to look into the flag symbols they have chosen and come out from their confusion.

    I could have done this call on their website but I thought Saleh’s article is an excellent call that I can add nothing.

    As Saleh has penned it clearly we need to come out from this confusion as soon as possible.

    The march to Geneva took us 25 years. This is enough now to clear out our confusions.

    I call specifically therefore on EPDP on this occasion and be free from confusion.

    tes

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear friends, shall I say ሰውራ

    …… ሰውራ ሰውራ ሰውራ !!! …..

    መን ኢኻ ‘ ዚ —- ኣርክብ :-
    ንቅድሚት ሰዓብ :-
    ኣይትበል ዘርጠብጠብ :-
    ሓይልኻ ኣይትቆጥብ:-
    ፍጥነት ኣይትገድብ ::

    ሓውኻ ከይእዘ :-
    ጸላእቱ ዘፍዘዘ ::
    ቅድሚት ተወንጨፈ :-
    ድሕሪት ከይተረፈ ::

    ሃየ!!! ሰውራ ሰውራ :-
    ድሓን ኩኒ ሽጣራ :-
    ሓቂ ኣልቦ ዕባራ :-
    ሓፍሽና ነይጾራ ::

    ሰውራ ኣብ ልዕሊ ድሑራት :-
    ሰውራ ኣብ ልዕሊ ምኩሓት :-

    ሰውራ ኣብ ልዕሊ ገበቲ :-
    ሰውራ ኣብ ልዕሊ ኣሰርቲ ::

    ሰውራ ንሕርነት :-
    ስሙድ ሃየ ጽንዓት :-
    መጅድ ‘ወ ቀጻልነት :-
    ጸረ ሰደት ጥፍኣት::

    ሰውራ መእንቲ ሕጊ :-
    ሰውራ ጸር ሓለንጊ ::

    ኣርክብ ኣይትበል ቀልባዕ :-
    ወዲ ጀግና ቃልስኻ ስራዕ :-
    በሎ ሰይጣን ይቀጻዕ :-
    ደልዲልካ ርገጽ ተመርከዝ ድፋዕ ::
    ሰውራ !!!!
    Kokhob Selam

  • Kokhob Selam

    [Always remember to begin your comments with salutation]

    Thank you awate team for reminding me and here allow me to Edit with salutation and some corrections in my Post

    ሰላም ኣሕዋት መራሕቲ ሕጊ ኣልቦ ስርዓት !

    ካብ ልቢ ዝነቅል ሓልዮትን ርህራሄን ልዕሊ ኩሉ ፍልልያትና ክብ ዘበለ ሰላማዊ መልእኽተይ ተቀበሉ:: እዚ ማዕበል ተስተብህልሉ ክት ህልው ተስፋ እናገበርኩ ድማ እየ መልእኽተይ ዝልእኽ ዘለኹ :: ናይ መጀመርያ መልእኽተይ በቲ “ከም መትከል እናኣምነሉ” ኢልኩም ንነብስኹም ዝጠምቅኩምሉ ሸም ክጅምር ብትሕትና ይሓትት::

    “ህዝባዊ ግንባር ንዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” እቲ ሽም ከምዘመልክቶ እቲ ህዝባዊ ግንባር ሲ ” ንዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” ዝብል ዓላማ መሰረት ዝገበረ ምሕደራ ኣብ ተግባር ከተውዕሉ እዩ ዝእምት :: እዚ ሓቂ እንተዝኸውንስ እዞም ንሰብኣዊ መሰል ኣብ እንዳማቶም ከይዶም down down እናበሉ ድምጾም ዘስምዑ ዘለው ኣብ ውሽጢ ሃገር ኮይኖም እሂም ቢሂም ክብሉ ምስተሰምዑ :: ንምዃኑ ንምታይ ኣብዚ ደረጃ በጺሕና ኢልኩም ዶ ንክልኢት ሓቲትኩም ትፈልጡ ?

    ኣመራርጻ ሽም ይበል ! ግን እኮ “ንዲሞክራሲ ” ኢልካ “ንፍትሕን ” ምጥቃሱ ኣደላይ ኣይነበረን : እቲ ምንታይሲ ዲሞክራሲ ክሳብ ስለዝሃለወ ፍትሒ ‘ውን ስለ ዝህሉ :: ግርም ድማ ደመቐ ! የግዳስ እዚ ሽም ንነብስኹም ካብ ዝጠመኩምላ ሰዓት ህዝባዊ ግንባር ካብ ዝፈጸመቶ ገበናት ንላዕሊ ድኣ ፍትሒ ተጋሂሱ :: ህዝብስ “ንዲሞክራሲ ፍትሕን” ክትብሉ ምስ ሰመዐ ኣዝዩ እዩ ተተስፊዩ – ግሩህ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ :: ኣረዳድእኡ ኣብ ዲሞክራሲ ድማ ነቶም ኩሎም ዲሞክራሲ ዝሓቅፎም ኣምራት ዝሓዘለ እዩ ዝነበረ :: ናይ ዲሞክራሲ መርሃ- ግብር ድማ ኣብ ሕጋዊ ኣሰራርሓ እዩ ዝምርኮስ :: ቅዋም ኣብዘይብሉ ሃገር ዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን ከመይ ገይሩ ይህሉ ኢሉ ዝሓትትን ዘስተንትንን ኣእምሮ ህዝቢ – በቲ “ንህዝቢ እንተዘይሓልዩ ንሃገራዊ ቃልሲ እንታይ ኣቃለሶም” ብዝብል ፍሉይ ዝተጋነነ እምነት እዩ ተዓጽዩ :: መስኪናይ ህዝቢ ኣብ ሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ዝተሰውኡ ደቁ ትውኩሉ መራሕቲ ኮይኑ እዩ ዝሰመዖ ነይሩ :- ገና በዚ ዝኣምኑ ውን ኣለው:: መዓስ እሞ ከም በዓል ኮኾብ ( ርጉማት ሰባት) ውሽጡኹምን ውሻጠኹምን ይፈልጥ ነይሩ እዚ ለዋህ ህዝቢ :: ኤእ!! ትኽእልሉ ድማ: – ብሓቂ ሽጣራታትኩም ንቁኑዕ ዕላማ እንተተውዕልዎስ እዛ ሃገርን ህዝባን ኣብ ገነት ምነበሩ ::

    እዚ ለውህ ህዝቢ ኣንቀድኣወ – ብተስፋ ድማ ህልውና ብዙሕነት (ህልውና ናይ ፖሎቲካ ውድባት)- ነጻነት ምንቅስቃስ – ነጻነት ሓሳብካ ምግላጽ – ደቂ ሰባት ኣብ ቅድሚ ሕጊ ማዕረ ዝረኣዩሉ ስርዓት :- ብጠቅላላ ሰብኣዊ መሰል ደቂ ሰባት ዝሕለወሉ -ነዚ ዋሕስ ዝኾኑ ሰብኣዊ ማሕበራት ( ህልውና institution) – ንህዝቢ ዝውክላ ማሕበራት :- ናይ ሞያ ማሕበራት- ጾታን ዕድመን ከባቢን:: ወዘት ድ ኣ ተጸበየ ኣብ ቲ ሽምኩም “ንዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” ዲሞክራሲ ማለት ናይ ብዙሓት መሰል ብውሑዳት ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ወላ ውን ናይ ውሑዳት መሰል ብብዙሓት ከይገሃስ ዝከላኸል ስርዓት እዩ – ወረ ብዓብዩ ናይ ውልቀ ሰብ መሰል ከይገሃስ ዋርድያ ኮይኑ ዝምክት ማለት ‘ውን እዩ- ዲሞክራሲ ጥራይ ነቲ መንግስታዊ ኣሰራርሓ ዘይኮነስ ካብ ‘ቲ ምምሕዳር ወጻኢ ዝኾኑ ክሳብ ‘ውን ኣብ ፖሎቲካ ዘይነጥፉን ስልጣን ዘይብሎም ማሕበራት ‘ውን ኣገዳሲ ምስ ዝኸውን ኣብ ልዕሊ ምሕደራ መንግስታዊ ጉድለታት ኣድላይ ለውጢ ምስ ዘድሊ ኣብ ምጽጋንን ነቲ መንግስታዊ ውሳኔታት ኣብ ምትግባርን ዝነጥፉ ኮማት ምስ ዝ ህልው ውን እኳ እዩ :: እዚ ማለት ግን ከም ኣብ ቀጥርታት ቆንሲልያዊ ቤት ጽሕፈታትኩም ብሓይልን – ስለያዊ መርበባትን ዝካየድ ዝዓይነቱ ማሕበረኮማት ማለት ኣይኮነን ::

    እወ ! ነጻ ማሕበራት ንዘለውን ፍልልያት ብምልፋን ወይ ወይ ውን ብምውድዳር ብዘይ ገለ ተጽዕኖ ብድልየት ሓፍሽ ብዝውሰን ባይቶታት ዝምረጻሉ – ሸርሒ ኣልቦን ጽሩይ ምሕደራ ምስ ዝህሉ እዩ ፍትሕን ዲሞክራስን ሰፊኑ ዝበሃል :: ኣብ ዲሞክራስያዊት ሃገር ንንቁሕ ተሳትፎ ህዝቢዝግበር ጎስጓስ ክህሉ ግድንን መሰልን እኳ እንተኾነ እቲ ናይ ኣሚንካ ምስታፍን ዘይምስታፍን ግን ምርጫ ህዝቢ እዩ :: ዘይከም ሎሚ ህግደፍ “እዚኣ እንተዘይፈጺምካ ዓዲ ኣይት ኣቱን” እናበልኩም ብሓይሊ ስራሕኩም እተሳልጥሉ ኣይኮነን :: እሞ ን፪፭ ዓመታት ኣብ ክንዲ” ንዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን” ንምልክን ግህሰት መስልን ድኣ ኮይኑ ተረፈ:: ፪፭ ዓመታት ማዕረ ‘ቲ ኣንጻር መግዛእቲ ዝተቃለስናዮ ፴ ዓመታት ክኸውን ፭ ዓመታት እዩ ዝተርፎ – እዚ ክብለኩም እንከለኹ ገና ነቲ ኣብ ቃልሲ ውን ኣብ ኣፈታትሓ ካልኣዊ ግርጭት ብምፍሻልኩም ዝወላዕኩሞ ኩናትን:- ብሰንኪ ‘ዚ ዝጠፈኣ ሰብ ኣዊ ሓይልን- ልፍንቲ ወያኔን ከይጠቀስኩ ድኣ እምበር ቃልሲ ብ፯፯ ዓም ክዛዘም ከምዝነበሮ ረሲዐ ኣይኮንኩን::

    ኮታ ሕግን ስርዓትን ዘይብሉ ብቅዎም ዘይመሓድር ጉጅለ ንሽሙ “ድሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” ኢሉ ከመይ ገይሩ ይስይማ ? ደቂ ሰባት ብዘይ ዝኾነ መርትዖን መሰል ነብሰ ምኽልኻል ከይሃበ ንሩብዒ ክፍለዘመን ዝኣስር ስርዓት በየናይ መለከዒ ኣነ “ዲሞክራስያዊ” እየ ክብል ይኽእል ? ንምዃኑ ህግደፍ ነዛ ሃገር ክመርሓ መን ፍቀደሉ ኣበይናይ ባይቶ ኣበየናይ ጉባኤ ? እዚ “ንሕና ኢና ልዕሊ ህዝቢ” ዝዓይነቱ ብደዐ ወላ እንተዶንጎየ ህዝቢ ከንፍሶ ምዃኑ ቅሩብ ክትሓስቡ ኣይከኣልኩምን?

    ብሓቂ እስከ ሕሰብዎ – ወላ ነቶም ሕጂ ትመርሑ ዘለኹም ውን እኮ ሓደ ከንባሊኹም እንተመጺኡ ብሕጊ ክትሓትዎ ኣይትኽእሉን ኢኹም – :: ዝወሰዶ ስጉምቲ ኸኣ ማንም ደው ከብሎ ኣይክእልን እዩ :: እቲ ምንታይ ሲ ወንጀለኛታት ኢሉኩም ዝኣሰርኩሞም ኣብ ትሕቲ ስርዓተ- ሕጊ ብዝርዝር ዝተጻሕፈ ደንቢ – ስርዓት ስለ ዘየቅረብኩሞ:: ሕግን ስርዓትን ውን እኮ ብሚስጥር ክተሓዝ ዘፍቅድ ዲሞክራሲ የልቦን :: ሕጊ ኮ ብህዝቢ ጸዲቁ ኣብ ተግባር ክውዕል እዩ ዘለዎ :: ልዕልና ሕጊ ኮ ማዕርነት ህዝቢ ኣብ ምሕላው ህያው መካኒካዊ ስርዓት ኮይኑ :- ኣብ ቅርዓት ብንጹርን ብዘይ ሕብእ- ምብእን እዩ ክሰርሕ ዘለዎ :: እዚ ድማ ብዘይ እኹል ምኽንያት ደቂ ሰብ ምሕባስን – ምጭዋይ ኣብ ቤት ፍርዲ ከይቅረብካ ብኢደ ወነንካ ምፍራድ – ብግዴታን መህረምትን ንዘይፈጸሞ ገበን ኣንጻር ገዛእ ርእሱ ከምዝውንጅል ምግባር – ኮታ ኩሉ ንመሰል ዝግህስ ተግባራት ዝገብር ጉጅለ “ዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን” እየ ኢሉ ነብሱ ክስይም ሲ ንዕቀት ድዩ ጽላለ ?

    እሞ እሂ ይቅረ ሓቲትኩም ዶ መሰረሕ ምስግጋር ስልጣን ብውሑስ ኣገባብ ትጅምሩ ወይስ ንዓመጽ ህዝቢ ትጽበዩ ? ገና ኣብ ኢድኩም ኣሎ :: እንተ ድሕሪ ደጊም ኣብ ትሕቲ ጎባጢ – ቀጥቃጥን – ገባትን ስርዓት እሺ ጎይታይ ኢሉ ኤርትራዊ ፍጡር ክግዘኣልኩም ኣይትሕለሙ ::ብሰላም ካብ ርእስና ውረዱልና ::

  • Ismail AA

    Ahlen Saleh,
    Thank you for posting such a brief but telling reflections.
    Everything in this post represent me, too. I wouldn’t have added or deleted a word had fate chosen me to put on paper my reflections on the 25th anniversary of my country’s independence and the misfortunes our people had been facing. Reading this post made my thoughts go back to June 1992 in Khartoum. After serving in several countries in the Middle East and elsewhere to do my modest bit in the struggle to liberate my country, I happened to return back to Sudan in 1989, and was there when the Ethiopians left and the EPLF installed a governmnet!!. My dream was to go back home that I had missed for decades. But the dictator denied me my right that I thought was natural. At that point after decades ,I decided to swallow the bitterness of humiliation and go to exile; and I am still tasting it on daily basis.
    Thank you, sir.
    Ismail AA.

    • Saleh Johar

      Ahlen Ismail,

      Some people are willing to correct a mistake (which is universally right) by bowing down–surrender your pride. For veterans like you, it would be easy to go to Asmara, submit at the temple of the tyrant, shout nHna nsu, nsu nHna, and viola, you corrected to the wrong that was right but some think it is wrong because they have to survive and …. it is circular Ismail and I better stop here.

      Justice an inherently human trait, that is why people kill and die for it. Of course, the unjust will consider their injustice the epitome of justice. Even children feel and expresses justice in its crude form when they feels they are wronged. The entire Eritrean struggle was a quest for justice and we have to learn from a veteran of the struggle that struggling for justice from the PFDJ is wrong. Half the veteran population unjustly kept in exile, hundreds of youth unjustly forced to leave their country, and all the injustices befalling Eritrea is something that doesn’t warrant a struggle to correct! Well, that is where we have reached. Don’t correct injustice, learn to live with it, accommodate it. Bow down under the feet of a brute tyrant, buy ‘enda teHanit” in Eritrea and keep bowing to keep that investment safe. Anything that endangers that enda teHnit is wrong. I hope the thick minds of the veterans accept that 🙂

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear bro,

      ንፍትሒ ደው ዝብል ፍጹም ነይንብርከኽ :-
      ንግዝያዊ ረብሓ ነይብል ወሽለኽለኽ :-
      ዜግነት መሰል እዩ ዘይድምሰስ ዘይሕከኽ :-
      ትሕጃ ዘየድልዮ እንተመረረ መድረኽ::

      ወላ እንተነበረ ርሑቕ ካብ መሬቱ :-
      ወላ እንተተዘምተ ውርሻ ‘ቲ ርስቱ:-
      እነሆ እንዶ ቀሪቡ ኣኺሉ መዓልቱ :-
      ኩሉ ክረኽቦ እዩ ሓልዩ ክብረቱ ::

      ወይልኦም ሰብ ጠቅሚ ኣብ’ ዛ ሕጻር ዕድመ:-
      ወይልኡ ኣገልጋሊ ጨካን ዝኸደመ :-
      ክብሩ እወ ዝሸጠ ጀግና ዘጸለመ :-
      ውቃቢኡ ህዱም ሓሶት ተሸለመ::

      ኣጆኻ ወገነይ – ወገን ‘ቶም ውጹዓት:-
      ክዛዘም እዩ መድረኽ ዝሓለፈ መዓት:-
      ክዕጾ እዩ ታሪኽ ናይ ገባቲ ስርዓት :-
      ክትገበር እዩ ኩሉ ሕድሪ ‘ቶም ሰማእታት :

  • Peace!

    Dear All,

    Epic, Salihom!

    “I pray the Eritrea capo and his clique would be apprehended and tried in Eritrea, by Eritreans; I am not a fan of outsourced justice. Furthermore, a trial in Eritrea would set an excellent precedent for the nation. A trial in a foreign land, would set a very bad precedent. However, for that to happen, we are in dire need of forces that would awaken the spirit of Wed-Ali, and the valor of Eritrean combatants. This time, they better do it right.”

    Peace!

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Peace

      “This time, they better do it right.”

      There is no RIGHT-WAY of doing a WRONG THING

      • Abi

        Selam Semere T
        There is a RIGHT way to WRITE a WRONG history.

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam ጓድ Abi

          “There is a RIGHT way to WRITE a WRONG history.”

          Abi: I don’t know how our children (Ethiopians Eritreans and people of the Horn Region) will write our history millennia from now. But I know one thing for sure: Your Woyane and my opposition are known for making grave mistakes. But this time it is different.

          “THEY ARE MAKING THE WRONG MISTAKE!!!!”

          Semere Tesfai

          • Thomas D

            Hi Semere T,

            I just have one question for you. When did you get married with the dictator? I have never seen you talking about all the tragic things happening by the dictator. However, you always come to this website to tell us about Ethiopia/Weyane did this and opposition did that. HINT, we know what you are trying to do is protect your husband at any cost. Game is over, you must give up. The young that you claiming would be killed by the weyane are running from your husband to the Weyanes. Please smell the reality!! It is ok for you when your husband kills, jails, enslaves, oppresses, abuses and controls the lives of our young, but you come here to show your paranoia of the opposition, the weyane, USA and only God know whatever else is in your mind. Just be open and expose your self and tell us that DIA is your immediate relative. That is why I think you have an identity crises. Those half and half people are trying to be more Eritreans than the rest of us. Suggestion: you don’t have to hate the weyanes more than the rest of us so as to look more Eritrean…..

          • Thomas D

            Hi,

            This is the language some understand, “He goes too far, I go too far”:)

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Semere Tesfai,
            .
            They say even a broken clock is right two times a day. I believe it is one of those times on this point. You and me are in sink.
            .
            You and me know what the litmus test of the next Eritrean President will be. Whoever he is will be looked at with laser intensity for one trait and one trait only. Everything else is secondary.
            .
            Ethiopia blesses the next Eritrean President, a large segment of Eritreans will curse him. If Ethiopia is at loggerheads with the new Eritrean President, the same contingent of Eritreans will fall in love with him.
            .
            I believe this psychology will be with us for the next couple of generations. The leaders of both sides cannot brush it under the rugs. From Ethiopia’s perspective the safe distance it keeps from this mental illness the better for it’s future.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Anta SebAy
            How do you make a Right mistake? I thought all mistakes were wrong.
            Well, you can tell me it is “a unique Eritrean way!!!”
            I believe you.
            Guad Abiyot.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Semere T.,
        Now, what has “… fractured Eritrean opposition, ….” to do with the words quoted by Peace above. I think that statement of Saleh is general. He didn’t say the opposition you are alluding to would apprehend the dictator and his henchmen and bring them to face trial. I do not understand why people are fixated on the opposition operating from Ethiopia. The task of getting rid of the dictatorship is not the sole burden of the opposition alone; it is a national burden encompassing the freedom and justice seekers where ever they happen to be – inside or outside.
        With respect,
        Ismail AA

      • Peace!

        Dear ST,

        The message I quoted is obviously loaded, and can be interpreted in various ways. But to me the first thing came to mind was literally the heroic attempt by Wedi-Ali. There are plenty heros like him who would sacrifice their lives to save the nation, hopefully in the near future and do it RIGHT.

        Peace!

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam Peace

          “There are plenty heros like Wedi-Ali who would sacrifice their lives to save the nation, hopefully in the near future and better do it RIGHT.”

          My friend: That is called REFORMING PFDJ. If that is what you believe – here at Awate, you will be alone, left in the cold for a long, long , long…… time – PFDJ label tattooed on your face.

          Why reforming PFDJ is not on the cards at the Awate world?

          Because REFORMING is not systemic change, it is not radical change, PFDJ is not defeated, PFDJ and all its Koboro Junkies are not weeded out, the criminals are not sent to ICC, justice sweat revenge justice is not served……..

          Semere Tesfai

          • iSem

            Hi Semere:
            in your kind of reform, criminals should not be punished and you want the Kobor Junkies to run the national security when they report gossip to officials and those who aired their dislike to disappear
            So what is reform.
            I am starting to suspect something else, I will not say now, but maybe one I day, when you keep regressing
            And, let say, by miracle tomorrow PFDJ says we will reform what do they need to do? Let me help you by quoting Wedi-ALi: release prisoners, implement const.,,,,,,,,,
            please fill the blanks, Wedi-Ali was interrupted, so you know

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam iSem

            “In your kind of reform, criminals should not be punished and you want the Kobor Junkies to run the national security when they report gossip to officials and those who aired their dislike to disappear
            So what is reform.”

            1. – PFDJ CRIMINALS:

            In the opposition world “PFDJ criminals” is a connotation used to describe different things at different times. If you really want us (you and I) to discuss about crimes and criminals in Eritrean politics, put your list of criminals and I’m more than happy to discuss them with you. And if you are positively sure about the presence of CRIMINALS in the PFDJ regime, if you are positively sure about their crimes, I don’t see why you would be shy listing their names for all to see.

            2. – ” You want the Kobor Junkies to run the national security?”

            You mean the men and women in the front-line trenches who were/are polishing their guns when you were/are busy polishing your English? Absolutely! Why wouldn’t they? They sweat, bled, died for it. They are defending it. They put their heat and soul into it. Who are you to tell them they can lead the country they are protecting? By the way: who do you have in mind to lead the country?

            3. – “I am starting to suspect something else, I will not say now, but maybe one I day, when you keep regressing”

            Semere: why would you torture yourself guessing/suspecting, when I can tell you in your face.

            4. – “And, let say, by miracle tomorrow PFDJ says we will reform what do they need to do? Let me help you by quoting Wedi-ALi: release prisoners, implement const.,,,,,,,,,”

            Why are you dragging Wed-Ali into this. You don’t believe a thing what Wed-Ali said/was up to. Wed-Ali wanted piecemeal change within PFDJ, you don’t.

            But, please prove me wrong: if PFDJ (a) changed leadership all under 45 of age (all non former Tegadeltis) (b) implemented the constitution, release the prisoners, formed a parliament that look like Eritrea in every way (c) with broad participation of Eritrean nationals wrote party rules (d) allowed three national political parties that look exactly like Eritrea to compete fair and square – do you think the opposition woul support it? Absolutely not! Because it never is/was about caring of the prisoners, love of the constitution……

            Semere Tesfai

          • iSem

            Selam Semere:
            1. Honestly? I do no t have to tell you the criminals, they told you, Eritreans told you , if you care to listen and since you did refuse to listen, they told a fellow human being, seleste sillassie;-)
            2. KJ, please stop twisting, for those in the trenches Koboro is a treat , let alone to be considered as KJ, so honesty would come a long way Semere, you know what I mean by JK, thanks to HTG, the definition has been entrenched
            3. I am not guessing, but I wanted to give you a chance to confese the reason behind unbridled support of PFDJ
            4. You are wrong on what wedi Ali wanted, yes he said release prisoners, implement const…..” inteerrupted, you cannot release prisoners without accounting for those you murdered, for those you tortured the dead, but like any Eritrean thing, his was interrupted, his life was interrupted
            Also dead wrong on the opposition refusing the scenario you painted,actually WRONG is being kind because, it implies unintentionally mistaking a mistake, there is a word for making mistake knowing full well, intentionally

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Semere Tesfay,

            You keep asking who are the criminals? I am absolutely sure that you have some in your mind as a veteran tegadalay. But for the sake of your question, let us start with the capo of criminals “Issayas Afeworki ” and will continue with the rest. Now please do not answer question by question. Your question is specific and that to give you names. Go head, and be his defense attorney.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            I almost can write Semere Tesfay summation if he becomes the defense attorney for IA:
            He ill say this:
            “Ladies and gentlemen”, he would commence his speech, with his pure Tigriniya borrowed from one of his wise, calm thoughtful uncles he shared with Sal a few months ago

            I am not going to deny the tough actions, by my client,he is not even denying it, but let us define a crime, on whose interpertation, IA acted on the fuduciary bestowed on him my the majority of Eritreans and no one had a problem when he was taking those actions, crime is non only on the eyes of the beholder, but alos on the ears of the listener, on the sensitivity of the feeler. So from the perspective of the majority who were at the receiving end of the tough love, you call it crimes, but we call it spanking for the better future of the majority, my client is innocent
            So the only way to avoid the actions of IA is to vote him out, good luck with that, the majority will vote him in. It is the majority stupid. Sorry for my language, but it so infuriating to be accused of crimes when you only did the wish of the majority
            And with that, I live you to find him not only not guilty, but to find him innocent

          • Kokhob Selam

            Sir,
            What will you do if some one answers to your question in such way – It is you and your likes for encouraging criminals to stay more – Hey I am not saying so but if someone say it what will be your reaction?

          • tes

            Dear Semere Tesfai,

            Beforing conforming on the “Effect” of the idea called protecting the mother land why don’t you contemplate on the “cause of war” and “was it possible” lines. I know you are chogar danga and it will be hard to think outside the “war box” (including MS) lest to think why our youth are suffering at the border.

            Even when I write this it is my naivety of political correctness not your blind faithfulness of the so called war heroes.

            When are coming to think about “humanity” by the way?

            tes

          • Saleh Johar

            Hello Semere and Peace,

            Of all the people I came across, you are one of a few people whose principles are ambiguous to me. Maybe i am slow, or it could be your position is so sophisticated and a mortal like me cannot understand it. But honestly, I do not understand you position. I am hoping you would clarify a few things for me. But if you do not wish to do that, no hard feeling, I will understand and stop being curious.

            Let me begin with the above example. Here is what I find, but please correct me if I am wrong:

            1. It seems you do not approve of Wed-Ali’s attempt.

            2. It seems you are apprehensive of “here at Awate” though you are part of “here at Awate” where you express yourself to the fullest, and so do people who seem to be very close to you in their positions. Could that be an you are thankless, or you dislike it “here at Awate” so much you have to discredit the quality that is a pride of “here at Awate”?

            3. Since you are “here at Awate” honesty would dictate that you describe it properly. Why is the cards of Awate? Let alone “Reform” even revisionist get to express themselves here. Why would you be a false witness? Or, am I wrong?

            4. Transparency also dictates that I clear my stand on a few things: I believe (and struggle for) PFDJ should be defeated; the unjust system should be weeded out; Koboro Junkies should be shamed and exposed (including their history) ; I wish criminals stand in an Eritrean court, by Eritrean judges, with state provided defense teams.

            5. It is not a fair game to sneer at every other view yet avoid disclosing your position and wrap your views with ambiguity.

            6. Peace: I hope you realize Semere fished “Revenge” from his pocket for the purpose of fear-mongering. I also hope you realize he doesn’t approve of a Wedi-Ali style move, or an opposition move (though unlikely at the moment), or a simple expression of views like “here at Awate” (though he is a beneficiary). Therefore, can we safely deduce that whoever rejects change in Eritrea (even if implied), wants the situation to remain the way it is? Maybe that is a wise position to take. Maybe we can learn to live with injustice 🙂

            Ramadan Kerim

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Saleh Johar

            I thought you knew me by now. But I don’t have any problem explaining my self a thousand times – even more. So, let me answer your questions very briefly:

            1. – It seems you do not approve of Wed-Ali’s attempt.

            When did you hear/read me say that? My position from day one been very clear: Eritrean solution comes by Eritrean from inside Eritrea. But, correct me if I’m wrong, you don’t believe on that political principle.

            “2. It seems you are apprehensive of “here at Awate” though you are part of “here at Awate” where you express yourself to the fullest, and so do people who seem to be very close to you in their positions. Could that be you are thankless, or you dislike it “here at Awate” so much you have to discredit the quality (accommodating and tolerance) that is a pride of “here at Awate”?”

            I don’t know where you got that idea. But this is how I see things here at Awate. People from all walks of life come to this website (Awate) to debate about ideas they care deeply (to make their voice heard). I write, just that in mind, and I will do so within the rules of Awate, until I’m not welcomed to do so. And I hope you see things that way.

            3. “Since you are “here at Awate”, honesty would dictate that you describe it properly. What are the cards of Awate? Let alone “Reform” even revisionists get to express themselves here. Why would you be a false witness? Or, am I wrong?”

            Again, I don’t have any problem explaining my self. I don’t believe it is a secret, that almost all Awatistas here, of course except “my likes” don’t want REFORMED PFDJ including you. But I do. I have my reasons, you have yours.

            4. – “Transparency also dictates that I disclose my stand on a few things: I believe (and contribute to the struggle for) the defeat of PFDJ; the unjust system should be weeded out, no apologies; Koboro Junkies should be shamed and exposed (including their history) ; I wish criminals are made to stand in an Eritrean court, in front of Eritrean judges, with state provided defense teams.”

            If you believe there are criminals inside Eritrea (or outside Eritrea), list the names for all to see, and then I will tell you what I think of the names on your list. As to “the unjust system should be weeded out, no apologies; Koboro Junkies should be shamed and exposed (including their history)” ብዘራይ ዋላ ብዘይ ዘራይ?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Semere,

            1. I didn’t say I read anything, I just felt it. Thank you for clrifying.

            2. Fine, thank you.

            3. To each according to his reason. Fine with me.

            4. ብዘራይ ዋላ ብዘይ ዘራይ? Please, first answer the question then yu can throw you follow up question. You can’t bury the question with another question. If you may, sir. But you really think you should ask me that question?

            Thank you

  • Kokhob Selam

    “ህዝባዊ ግንባር ንዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” ኣበይ ኣለኹም ?

    እቲ ሽም ከምዘመልክቶ እቲ ህዝባዊ ግንባር ሲ ” ንዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” ክቃለስ እዩ ዝእምት :: እዚ ሓቂ እንተዝኸውን ሲ እዞም ንሰብኣዊ መሰል ኣብ እንዳማቶም ከይዶም down down እናበሉ ክምክቱ ዝረኣዩ እናበሉ ኣብ ውሽጢ ሃገር ኮይኖም እሂም ቢሂም ክብሉ ምስተሰምዑ :: ንምዃኑ ንምታይ ኣብዚ ደረጃ በጺሕና ኢልኩም ዶ ንክልኢት ሓቲትኩም ትፈልጡ ?

    ኣመራርጻ ሽም ይበል ! ግን እኮ ንዲሞክራሲ ኢልካ ንፍትሕን ምጥቃሱ ኣደላይ ኣይነበረን – ዲሞክራሲ ክሳብ ስለዝሃለወ ፍትሒ ውን ስለ ዝህሉ :: ግርም ድማ ደመቐ !የግዳስ እዚ ሽም ንነብስኹም ካብ ዝጠመኩምላ ሰዓት ህዝባዊ ግንባር ካብ ዝፈጸመቶ ገበናት ንላዕሊ ድኣ ፍትሒ ተጋሂሱ :: ህዝብስ ንዲሞክራሲ ክትብሉ ምስ ሰመዐ ኣዝዩ እዩ ተተስፊዩ – ግርህ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ :: ኣረዳድእኡ ኣብ ዲሞክራሲ ድማ ነቶም ኩሎም ዲሞክራሲ ዝሓቅፎም ጉዳያት ዝሓዘለ እዩ ዝነበረ :: ናይ ዲሞክራሲ መርሃ- ግብር ድማ ኣብ ሕጋዊ ኣሰራርሓ እዩ ዝምርኮስ : እዚ ለውህ ህዝቢ ኣንቀድኣወ – ብተስፋ ህልውና ብዙሕነት :-ህልውና ናይ ፖሎቲካ ውድባት- ነጻነት ምንቅስቃስ – ነጻነት ሓሳብካ ምግላጽ – ኣብ ደቂ ሰባት ኣብ ቅድሚ ሕጊ ማዕረ ዝረኣዩሉ ስርዓት :- ሰብኣዊ መሰል ደቂ ሰባት -ነዚ ዋሕስ ዝኾኑ ሰብኣዊ ማሕበራት ( ህልውና institution) ንህዝቢ ዝውክላ ማሕበራት :- ሞያ ማሕበራት- ጾታን ዕድመን ከባቢን:: ዲሞክራሲ ማለት ናይ ብዙሓት መሰል ብውሑዳት ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ወላ ውን ናይ ውሑዳት መሰል ብብዙሓት ከይገሃስ ዝከላኸል ስርዓት እዩ – ወረ ብዓብዩ ናይ ውልቀ ሰብ መሰል ከይገሃስ ዋርድያ ኮይኑ ዝምክት ማለት ‘ውን እዩ

    ዲሞክራሲ ጥራይ ነቲ መንግስታዊ ኣሰራርሓ ዘይኮነስ ካብ ‘ቲ ም ምምሕዳር ወጻኢ ዝኾኑ ክሳብ ‘ውን ኣብ ፖሎቲካ ዘይነጥፉን ስልጣን ዘይብሎም ማሕበራት ‘ውን ኣገዳሲ ምስ ዝኸውን ኣብ ልዕሊ ምሕደራ ኣድላይ ለውጢ ምስ ዘድሊ ኣብ ምጽጋንን ነቲ መንግስታዊ ውሳኔታት ኣብ ምትግባርን ዝነጥፉ ኮማት ምስ ዝ ህልው ውን እኳ እዩ :: እዚ ማለት ግን ከም ኣብ ቀጥርታት ቆንሲልያዊ ቤት ጽሕፈታትኩም ብሓይልን – ስለያዊ መርበባትን ዝካየድ ዝዓይነቱ ማሕበረኮማት ማለት ኣይኮነን :;

    እወ ነጻ ማሕበራት ንዘለውን ፍልልያት ብምልፋን ወይ ወይ ውን ብምውድዳር ብዘይ ገለ ተጽዕኖ ብድልየት ሓፍሽ ብዝውሰን ባይቶታት ዝምረጻሉ – ሸርሒ ኣልቦን ጽሩይ ምሕደራ ምስ ዝህሉ እዩ ፍትሕን ዲሞክራስን ሰፊኑ ዝበሃል :: ኣብ ዲሞክራስያዊት ሃገር ንንቁሕ ተሳትፎ ህዝቢዝግበር ጎስጓስ ክህሉ ግድንን መሰልን እኳ እንተኾነ እቲ ናይ ኣሚንካ ምስታፍን ዘይምስታፍን ግን ምርጫ ህዝቢ እዩ :: ዘይከም ሎሚ ህግደፍ “እዚኣ እንተዘይፈጺምካ ዓዲ ኣይት ኣቱን” እናበልኩም ብሓይሊ ስራሕኩም እተሳልጥሉ ኣይኮነን ::

    ኮታ ህግን ስርዓትን ዘይብሉ ብቅዎም ዘይመሓድር ጉጅለ ንሽሙ “ድሞክራስን ፍትሕን ” ኢሉ ከመይ ገይሩ ይስይማ ? ደቂ ሰባት ብዘይ ዝኾነ መርትዖን መሰል ነብሰ ምኽልኻል ከይሃበ ንሩብዒ ክፍለዘመን ዝኣስር ስርዓት በየናይ መለከዒ ኣነ “ዲሞክራስያዊ” እየ ክብል ይኽእል ?

    ብሓቂ እስከ ሕሰብዎ – ወላ ነቶም ሕጂ ትመርሑ ዘለኹም ውን እኮ ሓደ ከንባሊኹም እንተመጺኡ ብሕጊ ክትሓትዎ ኣይትኽእሉን ኢኹም :: ዝወሰዶ ስጉምቲ ኸኣ ማንም ደው ከብሎ ኣይክእልን እዩ :: እቲ ምንታይ ሲ ወንጀለኛታት ኢሉኩም ዝኣሰርኩሞም ኣብ ትሕቲ ስርዓተ- ሕጊ ብዝርዝር ዝተጻሕፈ ደንቢ ፡ስርዓት ስለ ዘየቅረብኩሞም:: ሕግን ስርዓትን ውን እኮ ብሚስጥር ክተሓዝ ዘፍቅድ ዲሞክራሲ የልቦን :: ሕጊ ኮ ብህዝቢ ጸዲቁ ኣብ ተግባር ክውዕል እዩ ዘለዎ :: ልዕልና ሕጊ ኮ ማዕርነት ህዝቢ ኣብ ምሕላው ህያው መካኒካዊ ስርዓት ኣብ ቅርዓት ብንጹርን ብዘይ ሕብእ- ምብእን እዩ ክሰርሕ ዘለዎ :: እዚ ድማ ብዘይ እኹል ምኽንያት ደቂ ሰብ ምሕባስን ምጭዋይ ኣብ ቤት ፍርዲ ከይቅረብካ ብኢደ ወነንካ ምፍራድ – ብግዴታን መህረምትን ንዘይፈጸሞ ገበን ኣንጻር ገዛእ ርእሱ ከምዝውንጅል ምግባር – ኮታ ኩሉ ንመሰል ዝግህስ ተግባራት ዝገብር ጉጅለ “ዲሞክራስን ፍትሕን” እየ ኢሉ ነብሱ ክስይም ሲ ንዕቀት ድዩ ጽላለ ?

    እሞ እሂ ይቅረ ሓቲትኩም ዶ መሰረሕ ምስግጋር ስልጣን ብውሑስ ኣገባብ ትጅምሩ ወይስ ንዓመጽ ህዝቢ ትጽበዩ ? ገና ኣብ ኢድኩም ኣሎ :: እንተ ድሕሪ ደጊም ኣብ ትሕቲ ጎባጢ – ቀጥቃጥን – ገባትን ስርዓት ሰብ እሺ ጎይታይ ኢሉ ኤርትራዊ ፍጡር ክግዘኣልኩም ኣይትሕለሙ ::ብሰላም ካብ ርእስና ውረዱልና ::

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi,
    Itseems a lot of water has passed under the bridge. I am back to interact but I may need a match fitness crush course as it sounds the forum has moved a lot, has consumed a lot. Has it achieved a lot too? Of course. It is always to measure impacts of discussions but lively forum such as this would always achieve a lot.
    If I may place two sign posts: “mekhete” on the far right, and “weed out” on the far left, how do I map everyone? Was there much more bigger movement to the right or to the left? What was the net gain?
    Gadi is always Gadi, firmly on the left.
    Saay is constantly evolving to the left. Mahmuday seems hooked to the equator. He moves and crosses the center to the right during Springs and Summers and moves back to the other side for the rest of the year. That is why he is my PM when is not in the PF.
    Hope plays it very smartly. He criticizes PFDJ on human right issues when he thinks PFDJ can afford such a heat. When there is much blame going around against PFDJ, he comes to their rescue, or he works hard in that direction. But Hope never comes up with new ideas, materials or even lines. He recycles over and over. I don’t think he has ever convinced or been able to impress a single forumer to chnage views though he has been producing masses of comments.
    Nitricc supports IA when he is not confused. But how much of him is not confused at a given time? Very recently, nobody seemed to have noticed when he said,”You fools, wake up. Weyane wants IA to stay. They are working to make him stay.”
    Peace intrigues me always. He has to say a line or two about TPLF in every single comment no matter what the discussion topic is. The topic could be about rcent tragedy that befallen our youth: “Hundreds of Eritrean perished in the M/Sea”. Peace would say, “TPLFkilled 400 Oromos.”
    What is common beteen Semere Tesfay and Semere Andom? Only a name.
    Abi seems to have been doing what Abi does best: making hope mad, madder, maddest (I know Hope, I was impressed the other day when you alerted Emma to mind his grammer!)
    Kokhob has always been wise, but he is even growing wiser.
    —————–
    PFDJ/COI/Eritreans
    1) PFDJ is being accused of abusing and assaulting Eritreans, unleashing crimes on its own citizens. What could be said in its defence: No, it never did it? Or it is okay if it did it? Which one? COI is not speaking for itself or for USA or for Ethiopians. It is speaking for Eritreans. We cannot possibly disagree with them as they are just speaking for the victims who happens to be Eritreans.
    2) Can PFDJ be defended because there are NOT alternative opposition organizations and leaderships ready to take over? I really want to address this point from a number of angles because i see it appearing and reappearing all the time. A) Wait until the opposition comes into a sensible shape- such is the first argument. Are you assuming the opposition will get better by the day and the PFDJ will not go worse than it is now? We can expect PFDJ to get worse or stay as bad. There is no logic to expect them to get better if the last 25 years will be a baseline trend on whcih we base our views. It is no different from daydreaming to expect them to suddenly open up the country for plurality, for the press, for private citizens and business to pursue their dreams, to free prisoners, to redress excesses, to bring criminals to courts, to deliver justicce, to undo their enslavement control and system, to normalize relations with neighbors, to rule by law, to allow politicaal competitions, to hold elections, to allow a constitutional system…
    B) The opposition are much better than the PFDJ as they are, but we can also hope to see them improving as we go. You think the chances for the PFDJ and the Opposition to get better are comparable?- are you kidding me! PFDJ is a done deal, and their journey is a speedy downward. Lets not allow them to be taking everyone else down with them. The opposition may staginate at worst, but they have a healthy political biology. they were never given a chance, never got the benefit of the doubt. PFDJ got all that and squandered. C) Lets say PFDJ is bad, and the opposition are equally bad, and are not a dependable alternative to fill a vacuum in the event PFDJ is gone. So? That doesn’t make it right for anyone to support a criminal party. In a house, there is this criminal family head. Divorce is always seen s a temporary relief from the abusive husband. The wife and the kids do not ask for a separation only after they are assured there is a better future. They ask for the separation in the hope that they will try to make the future better than at least the situation they were trapped within. If sepration were hard to achieve, they would never support the abusive husband or father because of their unfortunate lack of choice. Rejecting what is bad is also good of and by itself.
    3) In the absence of PFDJ, external enemies will see an opportunity to harm Eritrea (annex in Ethiopia’s case).
    The reason why Ethiopia wanted Eritrea to go is in part because they didn’t see the benefit of fighting for ever to keep Eritrea. They have had their lesson why it was wrong to demolish the Federation. They know why it was so futile and costly fighting for 30 years only to end up where it ended up. It would be an utter Stupidity 2.0 to go to that kind of game again. If there will be any reconsideration of reunion it has to come from Eritreans themselves. Do you remember IA talking of Confederation and the meaningless of the border beofre the war? On the ocntrary, the Ethiopians never said anything thereof, about a reunion. Yes, at times we here from people talking about the sea access and Assab but never about reannexing Eritrea. That is one point. But if the Ethiopians want to play it fool on themselves and unleash their superior force to invade Eritrea, PFDJ is no nearly capable of stopping them. It is not the PFDJ what they maybe afraid of. It is the Eritrean people standing and fighting for their rights, and as a consequence the suffering of both peoples from a rerun of the same mistake.
    4) PFDJ has a lot of crimes to answer to; PFDJ has failed to deliver on any thing; PFDJ is a spent force as a defender of the sovereignity; PFDJ is now an ugly face to represent Eritrea in any part of the world about anything. Reject PFDJ, they belong to a criminal court bench not to the office chair. That is a no-brainer but don’t take to much time to separate yourself from these criminals.
    Hayat

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Hayata,
      welcome queen again ! I also thought you need that course to participate now. Lol instead I get the lesson from you more than my every hour fallow up. you are really updated,

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam Hayat

      Where have you been all this time? I think you need to help me that retreat for rehab purpose. Everything you say against PFDJ is fine with me. I careless about it. For the first time, I read a reasonable voice in you. A voice of mainstream Eritrea. Here again we both met on some grounding principles.*

      – “They have had their lesson why it was wrong to demolish the Federation. They know why it was so futile and costly fighting for 30 years only to end up where it ended up. It would be an utter Stupidity 2.0 to go to that kind of game again”

      – “It is not the PFDJ what they maybe afraid of. It is the Eritrean people standing and fighting for their rights, and as a consequence the suffering of both peoples from a rerun of the same mistake”

      -“If there will be any reconsideration of reunion it has to come from Eritreans themselves.”

      Just forgot to add “…and Ethiopians.” I hope abi is not around.

      * I remember at one point last year or the year before saying to you that the idea of close cooperation was not farfetched, and that there was no alternative to it if we really want to think for the future of the generations of the region. But I also said that there were a, b, c…steps to be taken in order for that reality to be realized, the first of which is normalized bilateral relation. That will be preceded by closing the war of the two countries for good. Once that’s done then the bilateral normalization will naturally follow up which could blossom to higher degree of cooperation that could include other countries of the region. Only two independent parties/states can have a bilateral relation. When you have a party that renegades on agreements it signed, you can’t have those noble objectives. Therefore, while I appreciate your spirit of jigna tegadelit, I would hope you recognize that whenever you raise issues of cooperation. We may blame Eritrean leaders for not being flexible, but we are blaming the Ethiopian leaders for not honoring an agreement they had signed. That is a bad precedence in rekindling the relations of both peoples. It’s a matter of trust.
      Thanks and welcome back. I hope you will get iSem to behave, my HM CD is on its way to Toronto. Although rumor has it that it has been reoccupied by PFDJ while iSem studying the history of Akheiba TeKli.

      • Hayat Adem

        MerHaba Mahmuday,
        Thanks a lot. Where I was will remain a secret to you until I truly determine you will be my PM:) You know i’ve a soft heart for SemA and the only thing I can do is tail him wherever he goes. It seems we have a good start and commenness bigger than differences we aresuspected of harboring. I only have few points to respond to..
        1) not a big deal but somewhere in your discussion, you implied my being Muslim. It is not that I have the urgency of distancing myself from this great faith but in case it is helps to straighten up the record, I’m not, unless parental proximity is counted to be counted as one. But like I said, it may not matter that much and I may not have been bothered to disclaim if it weren’t you. This disclaimer is without any prejudice to the arguement you were advancing or to the faith itself.
        2) Trust: PFDJ the ultimate force that buried the trust of its martyrs, its people and friends. The Ethiopian rulers showed their trustworthiness at so many testing and tempting turns when it comes to Eritreans. They were the 1st to recognize Eritrea’s independence and they never looked back. The war came when they were not expecting it from their back. They are hosting our youth. They are letting some Eritreans attend in their universities. How can you not trust such people?
        3) Agreement: The only they asked for is dialogue. I’m not justifying it but I wouldn’t be jumping over the couch because they asked me to talk over a village or other issues. I would worry about a group that doesn’t care about any rule or agreement and yet this group monopolizes power and control of my country, running it like the crazy pegeon that dreamed of driving the bus. Please don’t accuse the Eritrean leaders of being inflexible. That would be an understatement. Accuse them of their haynous crimes against their nation.
        Thanks

        • iSem

          Hi Hayat:
          please clarify what you said about you are not a Muslim. I understand what you mean, the clarification is not for me, my soft heart knows it:-)
          But the way most our people think is if you are born from Eritrean parents outside the country and you have no Eri citizenship, you are still Eritrean and if you visit Eritrea and let say Nitricc tells the YPFDJ that you harbor some antiEritrea feelings you will be disappeared, if your country asks about you, PFDJ will them that you are Eritrea. Given the issue some had here regarding your identity, as if been human being and lover of Eritrea does not in itself matter, as if your repeated assurance does not matter, please clarify.. In some if you were born Muslim and you converted to Chrisitianity or if you do not practice, you are still a Muslim and vice-versa,
          About do not accuse PFDJ as inflexible, did you hear what Sem T said, he said they made mistakes, remember in Sudan when were teenagers and I wrote you a note and you replied and the teacher told us gegakum terredikum do, that kind of mistake:-)
          MS is right PFDJ is inflexible, too inflexible, they are too old:-)

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Selam Hayat
          Thanks for the reply.
          Re: #1. It makes no difference to me or to the statement I made regarding Christian/Muslims. I respect you for what faith you adhere to. It came when I was accused as being biased against Christians when I sing my “emama Estobia” The fact is I never even mention Christian or Muslim, and this is an area I really fill comfortable about. The fact that I brought the examples of “ye Qolama ras ghez” and the fact that I have defended Eritreans irrespective of their religious affinity attest to this. It was an unfortunate moment and I was not supposed to be subjected to such an experience. When I say EPLF was not a Christian project; when I say that PFDJ does not represent highlanders/Christians; when I cry for the mostly highlander exodus of young people, I mean it.
          2 and 3: The fact that TPLF stood by Eritrean case; the fact that the late PMMZ addressed Eritreans in the stadium of Asmara, blessing their independence is something that I never forget. I’m always against the elite who try to stoke fire between the two brotherly people using biases and prejudice….all that being said, the fact that TPLF led Ethiopia has renegaded to an agreement that it had signed is also a fact. When I stated “Eritrean leaders could be blamed for inflexibility” I’m discussing this within the border issue, not within Eritrean domestic issue. I know it first hand that Eritrean leaders have put us in this unending mess; and I know that they are the primary responsible party for it. Regarding trust, that all depends on once place in a given debate or situation. The fact that we differ on trusting Ethiopian leaders should not be a surprise; and that in itself should not be considered as a big separating point. As you said, it’s a fact that as long as both leadership are in power the likelihood that the issue will settle peacefully is remote. I was putting it as a matter of fact, one party for not being flexible enough to see what those “let’s talk” mean, while the other party for creating a situation which could only be described as a strategy showing a bad faith.
          Regards.

          • Hayat Adem

            HI Mahmuday,
            #1 The disclaimer: I only mentioned it as a matter of fact, not as a matter of substance. Agreed.
            # 2&3. Agreed.
            Regards

    • Peace!

      Dear Hayat,

      Well, you set the tone by calling an invasion to a sovereign nation and by revising and demonizing our history. This is an Eritrean website, but ironically TPLF soldiers and elites enjoy more respect than our “RAPIST” brothers and sisters who fought for independence and still fighting against brutal dictatorship for basic freedom. Nevertheless, it is good that now you seem to changing your tone, I hope you stay focused and continue to ignite useful debates.You have raised critical questions that need to be addressed promptly and independently to save the nation. The only reason why PFDJ is still committing crimes is because of the deep division among Eritreans, mainly within the opposition groups that supposed be a grip for voiceless and oppressed Eritreans. Therefore, the power to hold PFDJ accountable and save the nation rests only in the hands of Eritreans, and in doing so unity is extremely critical and cannot be ignored.

      The road map to defeat PFDJ is:

      1 Unity: for God sake we don’t even know how many groups are there and what are their names. It has been like soccer game: number five is not a team player, number six is too slow to walk, number seven is fake… ….very embarrassing. It is about time to play a hardball and get into the bottom.
      2 Vision: perhaps it is because in the absence of unity realistic and common vision blurs out. So I would assume unity is a prerequisite for common vision.
      3 Role: I think this is another crucial aspect of the struggle, as everyone seems to act as a part time/full leader, lecturer, and advisor from a distance. It is silly for anyone to assume leadership from thousands miles away.
      4 Empower and support for people to rise up. Tomorrows Eritrea belongs to those who are living inside; they are the stakeholders and should be calling the shots.

      Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Peace,
        1) I never called for an invasion. Unless you meant to disinform for any reason, it shouldn’t be hard to verify what I said and what Ididn’t say.
        2) One sure way to defeat PFDJ from where your stand is for you to start completely withdrawing your support for them. No ifs and buts.
        3) If you want o make sure tomorrow’s Eritrea belongs to Eritreans, start helping the removal of PFDJ today.
        4) The strength and potency of the opposition can only come from work and investment. The reason why they are what they are is because you and I didn’t help and invest enough in them. PFDJ got all that kind of support and used it to commit crimes against humanity. So focus your criticism on the organization to which you gave everything only to become criminal on its people.Reshift your support to give it to the opposition and work with them with critical monitoring so that they don’t turn against us like PFDJ.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Hayat Adem,
      .
      It was great to hear from you. As far as I am concerned you are one of the three or four Awatista professors that students from all over sign up to learn from. Therefore, it is incumbent upon you to let us all know, like Haile TG, that you are going to be busy or on vacation and that you will be absent from your post for weeks.
      .
      Your above post sets the stage and that is the rest of the story, as a famous radio broadcaster used to say.
      .
      I wonder if you read “Hope”‘s response to your post. It is vintage “Hope”. Did you notice how DIPLOMATIC and coy he was. He didn’t want to mention Ethiopia, so he says “another nation” or “next door neighbor”, to elevate his thought process and engagement. He has to be read, because unfortunately he represents a sizable number of people in that circle.
      .
      About Nitricc, you said no one noticed, when he said “You fools, wake up. Woyane wants IA to stay. They are working to make him stay.” Sorry, I noticed. I was wondering who else noticed it. He is searching for justification and reasonable exit window to run from the predicament he is in. In spite of the realty of the day, someone, he trusts, must artfully deliver the message to Nitricc, that PIA is virtually a Woyane, if not in body at least in spirit. That together with a holy water will cure him.
      .
      You also mentioned, Mahmud Saleh, with your normal friendly tone of exchange. I look forward to your future exchanges with him.
      BTW, in my opinion, his true colors emerged recently, when he single handedly diverted the attention of the Awate University professors and students alike from focusing on the single, TIME SENSITIVE, issue of the day to protect PIA/Eritrea. His tap dancing alternating with Tennessee Waltz and Harlem break dancing as needed to fuse Eritrea and PIA was breath taking. He succeeded.
      .
      Welcome back.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kim Hanna,

        Good observation on your side, as to what happened in the discourse of our discussion in the last two weeks. Indeed was a very disappointing discourse.

        Regards,

        • Dear A.H.,
          I am sure you know the saying “ካልደፈረሰ አይጠራም”. In my opinion the storm has left behind a clearer landscape. There is always something good coming out of a bad experience.
          Regards.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates,
    Greetings ,
    .
    How about those who
    Dreaming that authority comes through WOYANE only ;
    Made themselves SLAVE to WOyane and its addenda ?
    How are Eritreans and Ethiopians judge them ?
    They are lost spiritually and materially . Sorry for their
    misfortune & misadventure !
    DEAR
    GOD SAVE ME FROM SUCH MISFORTUNE !
    AMEN !

  • saay7

    Selamat awatistas:

    Below you will find a link to the interactive dialogue from the Commission of inquiry on Eritrea (22nd Meeting 32nd Regular Session of Human Rights Council.) It is more than an hour and 42 minutes. Since many of you will not have the time to watch the whole video, here are the sequence of speakers:

    (1) Begin – 1:10:10 States.

    European Union, Switzerland, Cuba, UK, Germany, Australia, Norway, China, Portugal, Belarus, France, Djibouti, Venezuela, USA, Spain, Ghana, Botswana, Somalia, Ukraine, Nicaragua, Kenya, Belgium, Sudan, Ethiopia, Ireland
    *************
    (2) 1:10:10 – 1:27:43 Non-state actors (civil society)

    Includes addresses by Selam Kidane, Elsa Chyrum, Helen Kidan, Dr. Daniel Rezene
    *****************
    (3) 1:27:44 – 1:29:120 – State of Eritrea

    Address by Girmay Ghebremariam
    *****************
    (4) 1:29:31 – 1:38:27

    Address by CoI Chairman Mike Smith

    https://youtu.be/GN-mxTrExoM

    saay

    • iSem

      Hi Sal:

      Mr.Gherahtu has been relegated to the back and YG lately has been address as H.E.
      But from all the speaker, Mr. Mike Smith was the most eloquent, most assure, most passionate, never stuttered, never hesitated, never faltered, never strayed, never intimidated, constantly confident
      He even employed a rhetorical device when he said:
      Where is the rule of law?
      So long there is no constitution
      So long there is no parliament where you can debate national questions
      So long p there is abusive national service which is unending
      So long there is not free press
      So long there are no civil society organizations apart from government appointed
      So long as the people live in fear and are controlled by state
      There will be no full enjoyment of all humanity and no real progress for the Eritrean people

      • saay7

        iSem:

        That was a nice way of correcting my error, confusing Santim with wedi Gherahtu.

        There is one observation that Mike Smith made to stiffen the backbone of the wobbling nations (I am looking at you UK and Norway) and it is this:

        What is needed by Eritrea is not new laws, but implementation of rule of law: a body that sits ABOVE the Government of Eritrea, like an independent judiciary and press, holding it accountable. You, UN, he was saying, told me to conduct my investigation “with a view to ensuring full accountability.” Yes, go ahead do your Universal Periodic Reviews, and your High Commissioner; go ahead with your engagements and bilateral relations. All that is forward-looking. But we also need to look back: somebody has to pay for the crimes committed on the hundreds of victims who were forced to relive their horrors because YOU mandated me to do it and they expect justice.

        Are they, or will be, persuaded? Only 24 of the 47 nations that make up the HRC spoke. Of the 24, here’s how the vote-count looks now,

        A. The countries that will adopt ALL of the CoIE’s recommendations to the HRC are:

        (1) Germany, (2) Australia, (3) Portugal, (4) Djibouti, (5) USA, (6) Ghana, (7) Botswana, (8) Somalia, (9) Ukraine, (10) Kenya, (11) Ethiopia and (12) Ireland.

        B. The countries that will adopt some of the recommendations (focused on more engagement, UPR, and High Commissioner) are:

        (1) Cuba, (2) UK, (3) Norway, (4) China, (5) Venezuela, (6) Nicaragua, (7) Sudan

        C. The countries that I have no idea because they refuse to speak English like they are supposed to:

        (1) Belarus, (2) France, (3) Spain, (4) Belgium

        Tes, what did the French and the Belgians say?

        saay

        • iSem

          Hi Sal:
          Everything utter by Mike Smith master piece. I also like his concluding remarks when he invoked the Rome Statute and memorably and simply told them the ball is on their court
          “The preamble of the ICC Status says that crimes that shock the conscious of humanity
          such as those crimes we documented in our report threaten the peace, security and the wellbeing of the world and therefore they must not go unpunished. We need to collectively bring the perpetrators of these crimes to justice, not only for sake of the countless of Eritreans victims but also to demonstrate that such crimes are simply unacceptable anywhere in world today”

  • AMAN

    Greetings
    Awates & All
    ***
    Since when did Abyssinians fought for Ethiopia ? It is
    only the Eritreans always fought for Ethiopia since early
    on.
    Abyssinians were always in their sleep while the Eritreans
    were fighting and defending the country from enemies that
    come across the sea.
    Here are few facts to cite.
    1. It was Eritreans that fought against the Turkish, Egyptian
    and Italians defending Ethiopia from the sea. The Abyssinians
    were resigned and in their deep sleep while our Eritrean fathers
    were paying heavy sacrifices at Nakura and Dahlak Islands.
    2. The sacrifices paid by the Unionist party members and the
    Eritrean people to form a common Homeland which was soon
    betrayed by HSI and traded the existence of Ethiopia with his
    personal and immediate family sovereignity, wealth and power !
    3. When Ethiopia was at risk of disintegration and collapse by the
    actions of HSI and his close advisers, it was not the Abyssinians
    but the Eritreans that raised arms and fought politically against to
    save Ethiopia as Nation and State paying heavy sacrifices. It was
    only after 1975 the Abyssinians participated in the revolutionary
    struggle of the people when ELF deposed HSI and his regime.
    Thus , as the facts of history show it clearly , it was the Eritreans
    that fought against the enemies of and defended Ethiopia to exist
    as country from the days of colonial incursion or intervention in the
    area or region.
    But also , of course Eritreans also opposed and fought against
    internal dictatorship and against agents foreign & colonial powers
    within the country that were enslaving the people and exploiting
    the resources of the country for their foreign masters abroad.
    HSI, Mengistu & Meles were all representative agents of foreign
    colonial and neo-colonial powers that put Ethiopia and the Ethiopian
    people into slavery , destitution , war and poverty for their masters
    besides Menelik , Yohannes and others WITH THE EXCEPTION
    OF TEWODROS who was soon to be killed for refusing to be.
    Thus it can only be fair to say it was the people than the regimes
    that stood against and fought for the country and the Eritrean people
    is at the top and leadership position of this history of struggle for an
    independent country / Ethiopia !
    The rest ! it is all fiction and fictional history made up of and fattened with
    propaganda machine. > > >
    AWET N HAFASH !
    DIL LE SEFIW HIZBOCH !
    VICTORY TO THE MASSES !

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam AMAN,
      .
      Occasionally I like to read your posts. I also like to listen carefully to people’s dreams, because their deep feelings is revealed in the gibberish story of their dreams.
      .
      It looks like you are setting up a framework of sorts, like an EPLF type of framework, of history so that you take your rightful place in Ethiopia. According to you, of course, your rightful place is on top of Ethiopia (like the old map) and rule your subjects, just like Teodros. What a choice…
      .
      AMAN, if you keep this kind of dream alive, it will end up being unending nightmare for you. I suggest you wake up and stop sleeping altogether. That might be easier.
      You and “Peace” should get together and form a party to liberate the south “savages” from themselves.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • AMAN

        Dear Kim Hanna
        Greetings First ,
        I too also see that you are one of those who occasionally reply to my posts
        and put your criticism,comments and /or opinion. Thank you for that.
        But I do not understand what made you angry or mad about the above post.
        And I see your criticism about it only emanates or comes from the feelings
        and sentiments and has nothing to do with the facts of history.
        To elaborate more here is what I mean or said.
        1. The history that many in Ethiopia understand as Ethiopian history is actually
        not the history of the people or the nation but only is a history written to praise
        and Glorify the power and might of foreign and colonial powers and their agent
        representatives at home and is propagated through the propaganda machines
        of these agent regimes to the public and made to accept it as Ethiopia history.
        2. The agents of foreign rule like Atse Menelik and Yohannes are nothing but
        a handpicked slave keepers or guards for their masters who want to control &
        put the people into slavery and the service of their power. Even the late comer
        leaders like HSI, Mengistu & Meles were no different but a continuation of this
        legacy of serving the foreign master by putting the people into civil war, poverty
        and backwardness through their control machines of propaganda and rule by
        decree. This what the reality of Ethiopia has always been and still is. A war b/n
        one people in the name of religion, border, nationality/language and so on.
        3. The only ruler who attempted to lead Ethiopia was Tewodros and soon had to
        be killed for going out of the bounds the colonial powers framed and always frame
        for Ethiopia.
        So if we take all these facts and accounts ; it becomes clear that the history of the
        people has been buried until now in favor of the history of some feudal families who
        presented themselves at the service of their foreign masters. Eritrea is relatively free
        from this history of willing to serve the colonial master when seen against the rest of
        Ethiopian regions. It was always resisting foreign powers and their agents at home in
        its land.
        Thus being on the right side of Ethiopian history – the history of the people not that of
        the regimes. And this true history of the people and the country of Ethiopia has only
        been truly represented and defended only by those oppositions to the regimes pre &
        or post WWII history of the nation.
        And yes I find ELF & EPLF ( also TPLF until it relapsed , capitulated & returned to the
        reactionary history or camp abandoning the people’s struggle or revolution in 1997 )
        not only on the right side but also on leadership position of this true history of the
        Ethiopian people.
        Let’s not be cowards to admit mistake ! Let’s show courage to say the right & just thing !
        The history told to our Ethiopian people so far by the bankrupt regimes is only written
        by omitting all the heroic struggles against colonialists and foreign powers and by omitting
        all the true deeds of the people to favor the colonial design and mastership and their agents
        inside the country.
        And the history of the Eritrean fathers struggle of resisting the enemy and ultimately paying
        the ultimate sacrifice in the Islands of Nakura and Dahilak defending the country/Ethiopia
        shines more brightly than any other Ethiopian history but is usually omitted by the agent
        regimes from anything mentioning of it.
        So when Eritrean fathers were paying heavy sacrifices fighting the enemy & defending the
        country; where were the Abyssinians. They simply chose to hide an act as if seen none,
        heard none.
        The same thing when HSI took the sovereignity of Ethiopia into his own hands in the 1960s.
        No Abyssinian came to the rescue but only the Eritreans……………..
        So Eritrean history is the true Ethiopian & peoples history;
        And what many so far call Ethiopian history is only ruling regimes history !
        Thank you ,
        Yours
        AMAN
        (will continue…..)

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Aman,
          .
          I have a rather simple questions to ask you, but since you said you will continue I will hold off the questions till you finish.
          .
          Mr K.H

          • AMAN

            Dear Mr. K.H
            Greetings ,
            I guess I had much more to say but I
            will or chose to end it here for now .
            I also want to hear other perspective or point of view.
            May be you have something to say too >
            Gladly waiting to hear …..!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam AMAN,
            .
            The general thrust of history being the story of victors written by them cannot be dismissed easily. I still think, Alexander the great, is a great leader, don’t ask me why. I don’t like to go into weeds with it. We will never come out. Life is too short.
            .
            A) Now, one of the direct questions I have for you, about your post, is in what book or books did you find some of the factual information you are telling me about? It is a straight question.
            .
            B) If any of the material you are presenting here was authored by ELF and/or EPLF, I will be SEVERELY disappointed. Did You?
            .
            C) If the end result of this presentation you made here is to prove to me that Eritrea is the true Ethiopia and the current ethiopia is not, I might have to ponder and sleep on that. There might be an obscure point there.
            .
            On many occasions here in the US, I have found myself walking into a business concern and immediately identifying with 90% certainty that one of the employees is Abesha. I extend my greetings by saying, Addis Ababa or Asmara. I am sure the reverse is true too. What follows is the recognition and appreciation of the moment, however small. We have to adopt and survive the now. We are the actual history in the making.
            .
            Mr. K.H

  • Saleh Johar

    Selam Asghedom,

    You sounded so confident psych-analyzing the entire Eritrean population. Then this: “[Eritreans] will confuse themselves between Arabs war for Nile , Italian colonialism and Ethiopian occupation.”

    My friend, all the confusion of the world is in your head. Let me try to untangle the confusion for you. We have nothing to do with your war over the Nile. Incidentally, when was this war fought? Your types have been talking about Nile war for centuries but there was no war except people like you spitting out similar claims to the one you just made. And you wring a sentence or two doesn’t amount to war. See! Your confusion is all yours, don’t throw it at Eritreans.

    Italian colonialism and Ethiopian occupation, what about them? I would have speculated what you meant by that, but it will invite what they call “Hlmi Derho” in Tigrinya.

    Have a confusion-less day, Asghedom

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Awatistas,

    Below is a link for reading, a document signed by many Eritrean civil societies supporting the coi and submited to HRC.

    http://www.asmarino.com/press-
    releases/4668-eritrea-un-hrc-32-addressing-human-rights-violations-in-eritrea-and-the-un-commission-of-inquiry-s-findings

    Regards

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear friends,

    “Thanks to god, in our first day we did it ….we won ( 7/13 )..
    the countries who vote for HGDF : ( Sudan, Cuba, Nicaragua, Pakistan, China, Venezuela & Norway )

    The countries who vote for the Eritrean people: ( USA, Australia, Germany, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain, France, Ireland, Ukraine, Somalia, Botswana & Djibouti ”

    we know Sudan, they don’t have stand and they can change at any time. I am wondering about Norway and Pakistan. Pakistan was the first nation to recognize our national identity back before armed struggle but it seems they are not aware of what is going on in our nation – much work is needed now to let others understand what the reality is in Eritrea.

    • unknown Bigfoot.

      Hello .what did you won man? you know what comes next and what this all about? a huge military intervention against your people that probably kill ,displace and damage millions people properties. good luck to you. I wish CIO is really stand for Eritrean people this time, not using it as a pretext to squash the whole country for ever.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear nunkown bigfoot,

        give me more details why you said so. Is PFDJ so strong to that level? Is happen the world want to destroy PFDJ will it take them even an hour? but then I am not and no single Eritrea is working to see what you are thinking over Eritrea. if this was the case wasn’t even possible without interference of a single nation? we hare not after civil war. after all PFDJ is small circle and we don’t burn Eritrea to remove such tiny group. What we are looking is full awareness of our people and the world first and other jobs will be completed by some heroes..so you should not worry about other risks. you will see smooth change by catching the Mafia group in Eritrea.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Thank you sir,

    DEAR FRIENDS

    …… ፱፰ > ፪ ( 98 > 2).

    መን ይበዝሕ ውጹዕ ዶ ወጻዒ –
    መን ይበዝሕ ሓፋሽ ዶ በላዒ –
    መን ይበዝሕ ሕዙን ዶ ሳዕሳዒ –
    ምን ይበዝሕ እሙን ዶ ከደዒ::

    ……….. ጀኔቫ ውን ተመስክሮ ባዕላ –
    ……….. ዓለም ብዓለማ ትፍለጦ ብኹላ –
    ……….. ጃንዳ ህግደፍ ደጊም ነይሓልፈላ –
    ……….. ሃየ ንበግሰ ዋይ ዋይ ከነብላ ::

    ምእንቲ ክስማዕ ድምጺ ናይ ታ ወላዲት –
    … ኣብ ሓዘን ትነብር ኣደ ቶም ሰማእታት –
    ምእንቲ ክስማዕ ድምጺ ናይ ህጻናት –
    … ወለዶም ዝስኣኑ ዝኾኑ ዘኽታማት::

    ምእንቲ ክስማእ ድምጺ መንእሰያት –
    …ቀለብ ማእከላይ ባሕሪ ሽሻይ ቶም ዓሳታት –
    ኮታ እኩብ ድምር ናይ ኩሉ በደላት –
    ….ኮታ እኩብ ድምር ናይ ነዊሕ ዓመታት :
    ክልተ ካብ ሚእቲ ቁንጣሮ እኩባት –
    … ተዓቢሎም ይጥፍኡ ብብዝሒ ዕውታት ::

    KS

  • Dibekulu Adiam

    dear asghedom,
    Ethiopia never fought for any one but participated in the scramble for Africa scheme. If Ethiopia was fighting for Africans, why is that its surrounding countries were colonized? Somalia, Djibouti, Eritrea, Sudan, Kenya? So where is the outcome of Ethiopian fighting for African freedom? Bogus!

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    The article appears to characterize the political confrontation between the justice seekers and the Isayasists as a fighting stance between patriots and ultra-nationalists respectively. The patriots are stronger because they are open to new ideas, reasoning and political wisdom. The ultra-nationalists are irrationals blinded by their narrow-mindedness, always believe in might is right and seek military solutions only.

    The patriots in their head-on confrontation with the regime, [they] exposed the regime’s cruelty that rules with fear of imprisonment, fear of disappearance, fear of torture, fear of death and fear of losing family members and properties that resulted in a nation whose 80% of its population are forced to leave the country. The patriots also demonstrated their peacefulness and courage in slowly and surely removing the iron rule and its jungle laws through global condemnation and measures, which in place is hoped to establish a democratic nation where human dignity, man’s self-respect and rights are enshrined in its constitution.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hello T..T.

      Thank you. In two paragraphs you summarized the whole article. Impressive and perfect summary.

      • T..T.

        Hello Saleh Johar,

        Here are two relevant quotations to our situation:

        “When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.” (By N. Mandela)

        “The criminals do not die by the hands of the law. They die by the hands of other men.” (G. B. Shaw)

        Indeed, the Eritrean justice seekers, as patriots, are not vengeful because they believe in moving on. It is every day fact that the justice seekers never allowed death and destruction to arise from their sufferings at the hands of the tyrant and his criminal generals.

        The justice seekers understand that it is universally accepted truth that victims of tyrants have the right to take the law into their own hands in order to free their people. But unlike the universally accepted truth, as evidenced by the above two quotations of the great two men in the history of human struggle, the Eritrean justice seekers are seeking to ensure that the tyrant and his criminals to be punished by the hands of the international laws.

  • Guest

    Dear Gadi,
    How long do you think Eritrea will take to get rid of PfDj? What is the biggest hurdle for Justice Seekers to realize their dream ie get rid of the current regime?

    Thanks,

    • Saleh Johar

      Hello Guest,

      I wish I knew. It is anybody’s guess. My advice is: do what is right, do not to wobble in between right and wrong. Stay principled and do what you are supposed to do. The pursuit of justice is not limited by time, you should fight it regardless of how long it takes, even if it is a lifetime. That is my view, but some people may see it differently.

      The biggest hurdle is outsourcing our struggle and being second fiddle on our own task! Clarity is also very important. Apart from that, there are wiser people who can offer better advise.

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