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The Chocked Asseb Port

Today’s edition of Negarit consists of an extended part from a June 3, 2011 article, “Unusual: Imagining Asseb Through Djibouti”, and a chapter from an article, “Could we be heading to Assab?”, dated June 21, 2011.


My flight from Djibouti to Addis had to do a stopover at Dire Dawa (Dire Daba as the Somalis call it.) The pilot kept flying around the city for a long time in high altitude. Finally, he announced the reason: “bad weather conditions, we are trying to approach the runway from a different direction.” Then he headed towards what seemed to me north east, and Asseb I guessed Assab is only half an hour or less in that direction. I fished the flight magazine to check the map: Assab is close. Even if he went to Assab, there would be no one at the dead airport; I imagined you could land and take off before anyone came from the AlShabab training camp at Kiloma, or somewhere around there. I was in the middle of my imagination when the pilot decided to fly to Addis because the fuel was running out… now I had to console a man sitting beside me. A few minutes ago he was happy he was close to his home, Dire Dawa, now he had to fly to Addis and will have to fly back to Dire Dawa the next day. It was already too late; and there are no night flights to Dire Dawa and he had to wait for the next day. I arrived safely, albeit late, at Bole airport, Addis Ababa.

The Unusual Damage to Asseb

Over ten years ago when Meles Zenawi said, ‘Asseb will be a watering hole for camels’, or something close to that, I was so mad at the remark, but I never imagined it will be so true. Now, even the camels cannot water in Asseb. Yemane Baria’s immortal song wedebat Adey once reminded us that the most important possession we have is our ports. Asseb and Massawa are the two ports that made us feel so proud, wealthy and so important; we dreamed of optimizing them to generate more income for the prosperity of the country.

It has been thirteen years now since the income from Asseb became zero dollars yearly. Worse, Eritreans are not even enraged enough. And any Eritrean worth his salt, specially the PFDJ lot, repeat the mantra that “Ethiopians want to retake Asseb.” I admit, there are a few Wedi Assebs who would like to retake it, they are nostalgic of the bars and masterly life they had there, but their numbers are dwindling fast. But let’s think like Eritreans, sovereign Eritreans, intelligent sovereigns not the ignorant type.

We all knew a corner shop where we got our small groceries—sugar, tea, coffee, sweets, oil, etc. I am sure we all remember how the shopkeepers treat their neighborhood clients with respect because they know they are their customers from whom they collect cents to make a living, sometimes they accumulate wealth from the cents. What would you call a shopkeeper who irritates the neighborhood women, annoys the men and scares the children? He is simply a person who doesn’t know how to conduct business and will soon go bankrupt or leave the neighborhood. It is insane to be on a perpetual enmity with your main customer.

Ethiopia has eighty million customers who need that service, and they are not using it. For thirteen years, we have watched the port become insignificant by the day, and we are not even stopping to ask a simple question: who is to blame for all that ruin to the Eritrean economy? Ethiopia? All right, they seem to have declared that they will strangulate Eritrea economically until the state of war between the two countries is resolved. But what are we doing to reuse Asseb? Is that even in the priority list of the good-for-nothing pseudo opposition who are never tired of issuing political programs and economic visions copied from dusty templates of the sixties and seventies of the last century?

The PFDJ lots are worse—they never see the economic war that Eritrea is losing, because it doesn’t effect Isaias and his clique, it just ruins the livelihood of the common citizen. When there is a movement of troops on the Ethiopian side, they scream from the bottom of their lungs because that kind of threat will touch them personally. See! They only prepare themselves for bloody wars because they have a stake there; economic war and strangulation doesn’t hurt them personally and they are fine with it—they can manage to survive on the resources of the state which Isaias and his minions control and share.

I was in Djibouti, and I made it my task to know what is happening to Asseb by checking what is happening to Djibouti. I went to the container yard, the bulk cargo facilities: storage, packing and shipping. I wanted to estimate the number of containers in the yard: I counted four containers high, a hundred or so containers in width, then I wanted to multiply it by the length in container units, to arrive at a correct estimation. I gave up; you don’t want to walk a kilometer in a place where the Sun lives. Let’s just say there were thousands of containers. The vehicle receiving yard was equally depressing for me; not that I am not happy for Djibouti, God giveth and He taketh, but I was depressed at how the Eritrean dictator is lost in knowing the damage he has inflicted on Eritrea by marginalizing Asseb from playing its role in the economies of the region.

For Asseb to make any significance as a source of revenue for Eritrea, it has to sell its services to its neighborhood customers. Djibouti doesn’t need that service, Sudan doesn’t. Somalia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and anyone and his stepfather doesn’t need that service. Ethiopia does and it is not buying that service. Now think what that does to the employment opportunities of the residents of that area and figure it out! Or better, check Google Earth by following these coordinates: 13 degrees 00’12.80” N and 44 degrees 42’44.52.13”E. Check Asseb port. You only see deserted, sad empty berths; Isaias lords over a port without ships—isn’t that outrageous!

The Unusual Shanty Town

From the port of Djibouti I went to a town called Bilbila, a suburb of Djibouti. It is a truck stop: a place where Ethiopian truckers stop to eat, entertain, sleep and repair their trucks, check tires and everything in between. Across the main road, there is a field so big it doesn’t have a horizon. And it was full of hundreds of Ethiopian trucks parked there either on their way to load from the port, or already loaded and heading for Ethiopia. Biblila has grown so much that the Djiboutian government has embarked on a huge development drive including public and service projects—a far cry from the shanty-town-look it presently has.

That is when I really felt the betrayal of the Eritrean ruling regime so much. Indeed, the regime has not only betrayed Eritreans, it is not aware of the damage and considers its management of the country exemplary. Isaias and his inner circle can survive; in fact, even flourish on the 2% and other embezzlements on which they live. Thanks to the Dergue, the entire villas of Eritrea now belong to Isaias and his narrow clique, and their defense of the regime is to defend the perks and benefits they gained from its existence. At least ten thousand jobs lost in Asseb, for thirteen years, and not so many Eritreans are enraged! Billions of dollars’ worth of revenue is lost forever from Eritrea and not many seem to care! Didn’t Asseb control a big chunk of the Ethiopian business before that business was taken over by Djibouti? But being the stingy, Hasad, institution that the PFDJ is, it had no qualms in losing tens of thousands of lives to the war; losing tens of thousands of its youth who become refugees; tens of thousands of its people wasting their time in forced labor; and disintegrating the Eritrean family unit; and ruining the economy of Eritrea—and no qualms!

What I noticed in Djibouti is quite telling: the authorities there are so cautious to the extent that one would wrongly take them for cowards. Everyone knows, even if Djibouti would not be able to defend itself, it has enough presence of French and American power that would protect it. Yet, every time I tried to initiate a serious discussion with the Djiboutians, they would change the subject and avoid talking about the Eritrean government. They would repeat one explanation: we are a small country, and we do not want to disrupt our development projects, we do not want confrontations or excuses for one. Of course, I could read between the lines: they are very carful not to provoke the trigger-happy Isaias and his regime. They consider him a crazy person that you would avoid his path lest he gets into fits and start a fight in the middle of his breakfast, or whatever he is doing at the time. The Djiboutians are doing it with excellence and smart statesmanship. That little place called Djibouti is booming and it seems there is no stopping to it.

The Unusual Politicians

I talked to Mohammed Wersama Raggi, the candidate who ran against the incumbent president Ismail Guelleh. ‘Kemey Aleka?’ Wersama said in Tigrgna to flatter me. I asked him a few questions to gauge his tone and spirit; I didn’t see any blabber but a mature and established politician. And he reaped 21% of the votes, a phenomenal percentage by international standards let alone African ones. And he immediately conceded when he lost. That was another thing that made me jealous of Djibouti.

A chat with the always smiling PM of Djibouti, Deleita Mohammed, also gave me that same impression, these are people straddling borders: the brotherly Somalis to the South and East, Ethiopians to the South, Eritreans to the West and Yemenis to the North—and by God they have people from all those countries represented in the social, business, and culture of Djibouti. Why not, even the French have a strong cultural presence, French is the de-facto language—and they are very confident of themselves and what they are doing to their country, without arrogance of pomposity.

All the politicians talk about citizens as a member of a family talks about his parents, his children, or his home. No serious complaint from the people, no fear and so confident and humble—I didn’t see any sign of arrogance or snob, all the way to the top leadership. What I saw was a Bedouin simplicity and perseverance, and of course, port city ambitions. I loved them, and now I can say Djiboutians are simply beautiful and lovable people; and they are great hosts.

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  • Dear sara,
    Thank you a lot for your good wishes for ethiopia.
    I am among those who believe that eritrea is in no danger from ethiopia. Well, you may ask, who are you to know, and i have no ready answer, for we have yet a long way to go to reach the stability other countries have achieved. Nevertheless, ethiopia’s priority at this very moment is not war, but economic development. Ironically, ethiopian groups who are against the eritrean independence are based in eritrea. This shows that when the regime in asmara says that eritrea is in danger from ethiopia, it is mainly propaganda for internal consumption. Politics and not poverty was the culprit in the ethio-eritrean saga. Of course, an economically strong ethiopia may affect eritrea in a positive way, if the future eritrean governments are ready to benefit from it.

  • sara

    ato dawit,
    your name denotes a holly person , that is dawit or Dawud in Islam and in all your writings you are using so many words that contradict your given name. i dont know (now)in your faith but in mine we do not mix such words together in the same words and phrases as it will be considered as blasphemy. how could we say messiah, worshiping mad dog,god will forgive till death do us part etc.
    ato dawit, the issue discussed is about ethipia doing well eritrea doing bad economically
    because of the port services and infrastructure built by ethiopia. i said good for ethiopia, at the end if Ethiopia prospers eritrea will find peace, for eritrea peace is more priority than economy and eritrea is doing its best to sustain the no war no peace situation imposed by ethiopia.

  • Abi

    Selam Gashye
    አይነ አንጉለ ኮረዳ ወዶ
    ሀይሌ ተረታ ተሽመድምዶ
    ቋንቋ ጠፍቶት ምላሱ ሲተሳሰር
    እምቧ! ይላል የትግሬ ነገር
    አብረው አይሄዱ ቁጣና ፍቅር
    እንደ ጎንደሬ ተግደርደር
    እወቅበት መስለህ እደር

    • Lamek

      Selam Ato Abi, I recommend you bank on your talents. It is time for you to get paid bro.

  • Selamat Berhhe Y,

    This is when the conversation between two friends ends for that day thusly.:

    I look at my watch, yawn and say to you ohhh boyyyy it is getting late. Ssoooo same time next week?

    What am I doing about it? I am doing what I do every day. I am trying to take over the entire world.

    tSAtSE

  • Abi

    Anta Berhe
    Eway! Are we talking vacations? You are at least 100 years ahead of the game. I am talking about a day to day life.
    I’m glad Fatima gifti is not around. You are saved my friend. She would have told you she vacations in Mombasa and more. Just the way she told Haile TG.
    Anyway, all your dreams will come true once we approve your application. Right now it is pending. Keep praying. I’m with you buddy.
    You and me ልብ ለልብ!

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Abi,

      I am not suggesting Ethiopians go only one vacation in their life time, I expect every year :).

      Mombasa, Hargesa, bahirdar, what have, enough for everyone:).

      Berhe

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam kazanchis,
    .
    Good to hear from you. Long time no see.
    .
    I agree with your post for the most part. However, your characterization of “grave mistake” need to be adjusted to “catastrophic mistake.” It is akin to the leaders of Ethiopia one day saying they will ban exporting coffee, because it is beneath our dignity to sell coffee. It was insanity and is not abated.
    .
    Amde, who I regard as a resident professor of Awate University, made the following statement.
    “The connection to Assab or any other port would be a simple matter to do-IF there was peace and agreement. It is never too late.”
    I wish I could be convinced of that. My observation is it might be too late already. The “train has left the station” so to speak. The investment of time, energy, capital and agreements with stakeholders that went into connecting Ethiopia and Djibouti is HUGE. Weather we like it or not, the presence of France, U.S, China and others in Djibouti makes it more stable and reliable than anywhere else in the neighborhood. Therefore, it is almost impossible to reset or make adjustments that makes economic sense to use (even to a lesser degree) Assab or Massewa.
    I am afraid the mission of separating the two people is accomplished. I am sure in the future there will be some kind of friendly relationship but not a “kin” relations. Let the ‘Ghetebs of Eritrea rejoice at the outcome of their lives work.
    Few die hard Ethiopian folks like me are still around in places like “Awate” screaming. The majority of Ethiopians have moved on. The young Ethiopians don’t even have a reference point to care about hypothetical discussion of history or current events. That is the way it is.
    .
    Mr. K.H

    • Berhe Y

      Dear KH,

      I think I agree with you that, the ship has sailed when it comes to the use of Assab port from Ethiopia. The way I see this is, quite simple. For example, when Ethiopia used 100% the port of Assab and Massawa for the past, Djibouti was dormant…it couldn’t afford to spend money on infrastructure to attract Ethiopian goods..It makes no business sense…

      So now the reverse is true….like you said, unless it makes a lot of sense financially I don’t think Ethiopia will switch….and it will be very hard to do so, for all the money that was invested (including Ethiopian money)…funny in the article that we read…Djibouti officials saying “We wanted to make it Singapore of Africa”, the same example IA use to say before (like the Ethiopians say….got the malaria in his brain, they actually think that’s the case as was told by Paul Heinze, which I think may be really true)…

      I think Eritrea still has a lot more advantage to win business from Ethiopians and everyone in the neighborhood and west Africa..

      Tourism should be Eritrea’s number one priority….that it can compete with anyone in the region…As to the Assab, Eritrea should develop the fisheries and mining, it’s huge potential and port but facilities but I think it’s probably wise if it develops Massawa instead of Assab because it will be better suited to server the northern part of Ethiopia….

      Berhe

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Berhe Y,
        .
        Let me say this to you. The one glimmering light of hope I have is this. NOW, when I say the word, I am sure I will get sling and arrows directed at me from all sides of the politically correct hemisphere. The reason for my saying it is because I used those slings and arrows myself quite a while ago.
        .
        It is the “uniqueness” of the people ( BTW: I include us in it too) It is the survival instincts. The good people battling the ‘Gehtebs of today might one day soon get the upper hand and genuinely work for the good of the people.
        I know that capacity exists and I will hang my hope on it.
        .
        Mr. K.H

        • Berhe Y

          Dear KH,

          Please keep that hope. As bad as it sounds, the one thing Isayas did was to be cruel to everyone and that we are all suffering and we will come out of these together.

          That’s why I think, we are refusing arms to fight and solve our problems military even though we really know and have the experience.

          I don’t think it’s fear or lack of motivation but it’s that we do not want to kill each other.

          Like Tes example, even he tried to dismantle the university, it looks like its back on its feet, no body is heading his call of destruction. This gives me great hope.

          Here is my business plan:

          Let’s start with 100,000 Eritreans wanting to invest in time share resort in Eritrea (4 weeks a year) with 20,000 dollars.

          I think that’s reasonable expectation, for 2 bedroom suite by the Red Sea or 2 weeks in Asmara hotel resorts.

          Say we budget 100 million for 1 resort and we build at least 1 a year for the next 10 or 20 years.

          I think the math is compelling, and we can convince investors.

          This will create local jobs stimulate the economy and boost the GDP.

          Small or little in infradtacure soending except electricity / water etc.

          We have enough solar and wind to light up the resorts.

          I think we have a good case.

          And I will defiantly fly direct to Asmara using ETh AL.

          Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            I was going to say you gave away a good plan to PFDJ, but they will screw it up anyway. Good ideas.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            I gave them a good plan back in 1994:), when they were starting with the 2% tax madness. I said to them, guys this is not going to work. You have to give people incentive back, instead open an investment institute (like mutual funds) all legal around the western countries, UK, US, Canada, Europe and let the people invest in the companies but expect to provide a good return.

            Encourage people to invest / buy their retirement savings (such as 401 K, etc) and a small minimum monthly payments, to those mutual Bonds.

            Hire very highly qualified investment bankers and invest in the respective banks..(the rate of return in western countries is a lot more than the return on any developing country / stable) and based on the number of money you collect, divide / split the investment in Eritrea (say 25%) and the rest keep it outside and let it grow with stock market etc..

            Over time you will have a lot of heavy return and when the wealth grow, you will be able to acquire companies that specialize in making finished products..for example instead of selling leather only to a company in Portugal, purchase the company and learn the know how and transfer the knowledge, most of it in factories in Ethiopia and just export the almost finished product and sell it as made in Portugal…(take out the emotions out of the equation) then you control the whole line of production…just pure business. so the PFDJ instead of focusing on the hair dresser and bread distribution business, it needs to focus on real other bigger business opportunities…

            You know who I think of this kind of company….the Tata group…what a great company..

            Or all the big Japanese, S. Korean and German colgramate companies…

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Berhe,

            I have been asking for years why the Ethio givernment wont set up something similar. At the very least a stock market of sorts so diaspora can invest in small batches, just like we all do for the 401K or what not. No -they are only interested in the guy that comes in with a stack of cash. They even kicked out ex Ethios who now have foreign nationality from all bank investment, but now they are back looking for diaspora money to sell those very same bank shares.

            Sometimes, it just makes you shake your head.

            Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            Sometimes?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe I am going to save this quote of yours.WOW

            “I gave them a good plan back in 1994:), when they were starting with the 2% tax madness. I said to them, guys this is not going to work. You have to give people incentive back, instead open an investment institute (like mutual funds) all legal around the western countries, UK, US, Canada, Europe and let the people invest in the companies but expect to provide a good return”
            This was 1994 where the country just emerged after 30 years of bloody war. there was no economy what so ever, in the country and you advised them the above? I know you live in Canada and you wouldn’t know about taxes, but in here taxes are duty and obligation of the citizen.

          • Abi

            Hi General
            Why are you surprised? You don’t know Berhe. May be he was a very high official in 1994.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitric,

            Call Yemane Ghebreab in Asmara.

            I said it’s crazy idea, I didn’t say illegal.

            But remember in America they said “no taxation without representation” and they kicked the king out.

            Know your history:).

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            Was there a King in America?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            The king of England :).

            Berhe

    • kazanchis

      Selam Selam Kim,

      Yes, it’s been long indeed. I think I’m a regular reader and a rare commentator on Awate. 🙂 Yes, I may have picked soft words when I said ‘grave mistake’. The thing is there are many who still thinks their country is ‘marching ahead while the likes of Ethiopia and et al are going backwards’ this sort of narrative lacks honesty and truthfulness, in my opinion. That mentality is to blame for many patriotic pro-regime Eritreans to completely ignore what would be best for their motherland, they all try to vindicate Isayas’s ineptitude in lacking ability to reinvent himself as a leader of an independent country than being cemented as rebel chief.

      I genuinely believe there is even less chance Northern Ethiopia would be needing Massawa as major port facility, as the electrified train will be reaching Woldeya-Mekelle from Tajoura port, the train projects cost estimated to be a staggering 4 billion USD, that is a massive investment and Ethiopia will never be able to replicate such investment to Eritrean ports, even if it wants to. It would easily be unfeasible and perhaps would opt to invest on other sectors.

      There is also mega-project by Kenya, South Sudan and Ethiopia (LAPSSET) for which I won’t go into details now. In general, the dynamics of the region have changed a lot in many fronts. While PFDJ hamstrings Eritrea from fulfilling its potential.

      Kazanchis

      • Abi

        Hi Kazanchis
        Why do I have to wait for the details? Unless it is a national security issue we need to know.
        I love these mega projects.

        • kazanchis

          Hi Abi,
          Hope you are doing well. I refrained from going into details of it because I felt like I was on my way to be off topic. 😀 Well, LAPSSET when completed will become trade corridor for Ethiopia and S. Sudan. East African countries are achieving an integrated economy except… you know who. 😉

          I also love those game changer mega-projects. The inflow of Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) directly related with the availability of electricity, road and train networks as well as trainable labor force among others.

          Kazanchis

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Kazanchis,

        I can’t help but wonder, what is the rational and exact thinking of the current Ethiopian leaders. You said, there is a 4 billion worth project to reach Mekelle-Woldeya from Tajoura port. When I looked this port in the map, it’s quite south.

        Massawa – Mekele – 300 KM by road
        Tadjoura – Mekele – 800 KM (as per google map)

        Few economic factors do not seem to make sense. Assuming the port fees are to be same for Ethiopia if it uses Djibouti / or Massawa so there is no factor..but the transporation cost of an existing road (zero infrastructure spending, 4 Billion) vs the cost of building and on top of that the distance is double if not more to reach the destination.

        I don’t know what’s cheaper the current road transpiration / or road transporation…now there.

        Even if the train track are build..the use of the track to transport people (other than goods) from Tadjoura doesn’t not seem attractive (as there is no movement of people to and from Mekele to Djoubit vs. Mekele to Massawa -> Asmara etc.. so it will be utilized quite heavily.

        So what exactly is the reason..I suspect the current political problems because of Isayas does not seem the only reason.

        I think the long term plan of the TPLF is to cutoff Eritrea for any future link with Ethiopia. Because if Eritrea is cutoff, then it’s importance becomes irrelevant and they will successfully replace / cutoff any future relation ship. At the same time, they are building / securing and Tigray remains an important and dominant part of future Ethiopian governments.

        And the best way to build this Mega projects are using the meager resources Ethiopia has, and spend it now when the opportunity is there. Because any sane person (other than those from Tigray) will think twice before allowing such venture.

        Are the Ethiopian leader are really convinced that Eritrea is a threat to them that they will never be able to restore their interest in so many different ways?

        This sounds like the US is like digging a tunnel because General Noriega was threatening to negotiate access to Panama Canal.

        I am sorry to say this, but this seems to me the case right now. I am not saying this because it will benefit Eritrea ONLY but I think the benefit of Ethiopia is equal or even more.

        Because the problem in Eritrea is ONLY IA and not the Eritrean people and I don’t know may be the TPLF leaders are convinced it’s the Eritrean people and all of them 100% of them are the problem for any future relationship.

        Horizon, Abi, Kazanchis and others, please put on hold your emotions aside..would you do this if you are to manage your own money…?

        Berhe

        • Amde

          Hi Berhe,

          I dont know about ulterior motives. It sounds like you and Mr Kim Hanna are saying the same thing. But, I don’t think we are singing our long goodbyes just yet.

          There is almost a straight east west line from Weldya to Tajura. No mountains.. just slowly descending plain. It is perfect for rail.

          The Addis Meqele line passes through Weldiya. The east west line from Tadjoura continues west of Weldiya into Gonder. Basically, if you got money, invest in Weldiya real estate. :-).

          The war has put Tigray in a bind. All foreign investments are going to Addis and points south. Any major investment in Tigray is basically TPLF money.

          FDI and other investors for that matter dont want to invest where the war situation is unresolved, but primarily because of logistics. Until Massawa and its road/rail link are opened, it just makes Tigrai a less attractive place to invest.

          Since they (TPLF) can’t just wait for Isayas, they are looking for alternatives, and the Meqele-Weldiya-Tadjoura lines makes it feasible to fix this.

          Again, the longer the Ethio-Eri issue stays unresolved, the more time there is for new trade routes to solidify.

          Personally, I think there are a lpt more connections to be built than just rail lines. So I am not worried about it. We are just ine deal away from getting things sorted out.

          Amde

        • Selam Berhe Y.,

          You are looking at the short term consequence, and not in the long term effect of this project. It may or may not include eritrea in the future depending on the situation. This railway line is meant to open northern ethiopia (tigray and the begemder region of amhara), to connect it to the outside world through the port of tajoura and to the center of ethiopia, at the awash connection.
          Railway transportation is going to be cheaper in the future, because it will use cheap electricity, and ethiopia is going to have an abundance of it.
          The railway line will help in bulk transportation of agricultural products from the above regions. Human transportation is not at the center, for road and air transport are already available. In addition there is the possibility that the line could be part of the future connection to sudan and even to egypt. It is not easy to cross the blue nile gorge, and a railway going north and then west seems logical.
          Railway lines are going to be constructed to the south and west to open all parts of ethiopia for trade. It may extend even to south sudan and kenya. In general terms, it looks like that all railways in ethiopia are going to lead to djibouti.
          Yes, the regime in eritrea is a problem and not the eritrean people. Depending on future relationship with eritrea, connecting ethiopia and eritrea is an easy matter by extending the railway. Nevertheless, it seems that ethiopia and djibouti have a long term plan of economic cooperation and they seem committed to each other, and eritrea is not going to play an important role for the ethiopian economy in the future. Remember, it was not ethiopia’s choice.

        • kazanchis

          Dear Berhe,

          I understand your concerns but cutting off future Eritrean relations doesn’t seem the main interest here. When Eritrea is ready for relations and cooperation no one would turn back from Ethiopian side. I will try to explain the rationale of the project and if you don’t agree or disagree I would welcome counter arguments from you kindly.

          The project cost is indeed astronomical and that cost also include the one that goes to central Ethiopia. There is two routes to begin with one to the north and the other to the south/central Ethiopia in the first phase of the project then the project is expected to expand to other areas. The project takes two things into account one to make import/export easy by enabling access to port easy and to interconnect different cities within Ethiopia as well. If you just google the railway project image, the project might make some sense to you.

          The incumbent ruling party have engaged in many mega projects some criticize the projects are being done for political reasons(i.e. doing projects to prolong power). This project also may not be any different, I personally don’t agree about the criticism. I appreciate governments with meritocracy tendency and delivering something. Presumably, the leadership in Ethiopia chose to invest such huge money maybe due to frustration with Eritrea that the normalization doesn’t seem to happen abruptly. The other assumption would be purely accommodating demand as Ethiopia economy grew 8 fold from nearly 9 billion USD in 2001 to 62 billion USD in 2016. The demand for fast and bulky transportation of goods from/to ports are high. Therefore, railways become a burning issue to both Djibouti and Ethiopia to develop. One railway trip would enable you to lift huge quantity goods faster – e.g. from port to Addis is now reduced to 10 hours. This would also give Ethiopia better competitive advantage for investment and so on.

          I am completely behind your point that the problem is more or less IA, not the Eritrean people. But, the uncertainty surrounding Eritrean politics and the huge increase in import/export among other factors have contributed Djibouti to become unrivaled Ethiopia’s port service supplier like Mr. Kim Hanna said with more security and stability.

          Kindly!

        • Abi

          Hi Berhe Hawey
          I think Kazanchis gave you a satisfactory response. I don’t have an answer. I have a question?
          Eritreans fought and died to cut themselves from Ethiopia. Why are you emotional all of a sudden?
          Nitricc and Peace are worried about the Oromos and Amharas. You are worried about Ethiopian finance.
          From today on your title is በጅሮንድ በርሄ.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            I don’t know what Jrond mean. You are correct, it’s probably not my place to comment on how Ethiopia decides to spend its money. As to my intentions, it’s not that I care more that Ethiopians but just out of interest. May be you haven’t noticed but I have commented positively on other projects that has nothing to do with Eritrea like Gerd and fiber optic network which I know a thing or two.

            Some numbers where thrown at (20%) for Eritrea possible share of revenue and my comments based on that.

            For me the math didn’t make sense but based on Amde and Kazanchs comment I think if the majority of the infrastructure spending is inside the country then it make sense.

            4 Billion sounds a lot, even though similar project of its size in the west for example probable cost 10 times as much. Abs I hope majority of the material / labour is sourced internally.

            For example, coffee export a amout to 700 million annually, and Ethiopian airlines, the most successful Ethiopian enterprise, annual profit is around 150 million. At this rate it withd take Eth AL over 25 years to pay it off and Ethiopia needs to spend all its coffee export for the next 10 years.

            Kazanchis and Amde thank you for your feed back, but I don’t know the number really sound way off.

            Amde,

            As to the real state, Canadian real state in general and Toronto in particular has been on fire for the past 10 or so years (close to 20 years now). The Chinese buyers changed everything and its almost impossible to have any chance of getting to the market now, if someone is not already in. I don’t know it may explode soon (I think China will, and it will take Canada real state with it). This is defiantly where my interests are right now before I consider waldiya or Asmara. Way too risky for my likings :).

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            Bejirond is head of finance of a regional government. It is an old term used at the king’s time.

            4 billion is insignificant when you factor the number of years it gives you efficient and economical service. With proper maintenance we can use it for hundred years.
            I understand you don’t want Eritrea to be left out. You want your ports to give service and bring in some cash. I understand your frustration that the “trophy ” ports are not that important at all. The train left long time ago.

  • sara

    Dear Awtistas, before the thread closes let me say the following … (thought of a peace dreaming Eritrean)
    the discussion on this thread is about Eritrea loosing against Djibouti in the port services market. indeed Eritrea is loosing millions in the short term,and Ethiopia is having connectivity infrastructure through Djibouti,Somalia,Kenya,Sudan etc and getting all its needs for the ongoing grand projects .
    as you all know the problem is and was with Eritrea the continues threat from Ethiopia if/when Ethiopia doesn’t have such accesses to the sea– now Ethiopia have this accesses and most of you are happy– and i also join your happiness because Ethiopia having alternatives means less threat to eritrea that ends with a peace dividend.
    yes Eritrea is loosing in these short term of 10-20 years but will have garanteed peace for 100 more years- aas they say –better to have a chicken tomorrow that an egg today..
    i believe , Eritrea despite all what happened (history will jajde) and since the no war no peace is imposed on her
    has to work for the long term gain (peace) that the short term benefit (economy).
    and we will live happly ever!

    • Dawit

      If I can add to this gibberish, there has not been any threat imposed on Eritrea at all. There are international laws guiding sea corridor outlets for landlocked countries. Your mad dog is the one scaring you into thinking, Ethio is coming to take Assab or some kind of war coming to keep you in the house. No war no peace is a necessity evil on the other hand for Ethiopia, we wanted to trade but you chose to shoot first, does anyone want to do business that way?

      • sara

        selam Dawit
        no salutation OK, insults -also thanks.
        say what you want but that is what eritrea is doing , at the end peace will prevail there will not be any reason who ever comes in ethiopia to agitate and provoke eritrea.
        i know the price for eritrea is enormous in the current economic situation but the long term prospect is far better than the one we are in. the same i guess for the mesakin Ethiopian people.
        by 2025 all this will be achieved, try to count the days.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam sara,
          .
          Yes, sara, in the long term we will all go to heaven, I think.
          .
          I like these one liners that sums up all the nonsense into one sensible point.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • sara

            ya kim,
            why are you angry, i am saying peace will prevail at the end for eritrea and ethipia. isn’t this what the good people of ethiopia want? eritreans want real peace and have chosen to take the long road than the short route towards sustainable peace for Eritrea. go figure !

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam sara,
            .
            I am not angry at all. In fact, the one point of yours that I agree with is Ethiopia having all these alternative access to the sea for trade is no longer a threat to Eritrea. Therefore, Eritrea should act normal and avoid the beseeched mentality. Don’t look for trouble where none exists, good point.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • sara

            selam Kim
            Eritrea is acting normal even more so that it has avoided so many provocative move by Ethiopia. Going forward Eritrea will keep its self quite until we see Ethiopia is well of and dandy with its port access, power generation dams , rail roads etc.
            btw, i read so many things going in Ethiopia is similar to what was done few years earlier in
            Nigeria.

          • Dear sara,
            Why do you compare two distinctly different countries? Nigeria is an oil rich country with hundreds of billions of dollars income. Its gdp is about 500bn compared to ethiopia’s 60bn, corruption is a way of life in nigeria and not an exception, and it has the al qaeda affiliated boko haram that is destroying north east nigeria. On the contrary, ethiopia does not have a boko haram type extremist islamist movement, for our muslims are moderate, peace-loving and they participate in the economic endeavor of the country. As much as corruption is concerned, the ethiopian government says that it is fighting corruption, although nobody believes that it is doing enough. Ethiopia seems to have passed the crisis of its puberty, and it has no other choice but to show the signs of adulthood maturity. That is why ethiopians are hopeful of the future.

      • Peace!

        Selam Dawit,

        What she is saying that it is good for both countries when Ethiopia learns how to live without Eritrea, whats wrong with that?? don’t you think it is good that it is changing the evil attitude: Eritrea መሬትዋ እንጂ ሕዝብዋ ኣያስፈልገንም? I mean it is good that Ethiopia is doing way better than Eritrea, but that doesn’t give you and others enough juice to bragging specially taking the current situation into account.

        Peace!

        • Dawit

          Selam Peace
          Ethiopia has moved on beyond Eritrea and that’s what you have asked but when we are talking about peace, it starts with sitting down and talking. Your leader is not willing. Also, for peace to happen, each country must work on their interests. Now, ask yourself, what Eritrea can get from Ethiopia and Ethiopia from Eritrea? Why keep using us an excuse for lack of wisdom on your leadership part? It’s easier to say, we want peace but action is different.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Dawit,

            What wisdom are you talking about?

            Ethiopia is sitting on occupied Eritrean land against the EEBC ruling.

            Why are the World bodies looking the other way?

          • Thomas

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            You are just being “Ungule being Ungule”. How come you don’t advice your master to take actions like he tried before? He ignited the war and he got humiliated not by the world community but the WEYANE. Now, he has “UNGULES” like yourself talking about why he was crushed for 17 years. Please try your dancing styles because you suck at it and I am about to throw up. The same talking 24/7 is extremely boring!!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            It seems that you have thinking disability.

            Ethiopia is occupying Eritrean land contrary to the rulings of the EEBC. Do you deny this fact?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Simon; please don’t waste your time with this half creature. Don’t see him up voting all the Tigryans and kissing their behind. I think he half Dedebit.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            Here you are another “Ungule” popping his head from the other “ungule” branch. Ask an Eritrean around you to know what “ungule” means. HINT: a useless/good for nothing plant/fruit:)

          • Haile S.

            Hi Thomas,
            Allow me to defend Ungule (ዕንጉለ in tigrigna አንቧይ in amharic enbouy). Nitricc, I have nothing against you here just defending ዕንጉለ.

            Thomas, ዕንጉለ (Solaneum incanum) doesn’t contain Nitric acid, but does contain a lot of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C). It is closely related to tomato, but is not edible. Despite what you said, it is a very useful plant used as a tanning agent in Eritrea and Ethiopia and as medicinal plant in traditional mediciene. It is also used in expressions to admire beauty and charm. Here I need the help of Abrehet and Abi for Tigrigna and Amharic, respectively. I don’t want to screw it, but don’t we say Ayni engule (ዓይኒ ዕንጉለ) or አንቧይ የሚመስሉ ዓይኖችዋ or ጡ….?

          • Abi

            Selam Gashye
            As far as I know we say ዛጎል የመሰሉ አይኖቿ..
            ጉች ጉች ያሉ ጡቶቿ…

            እንቧይ አይን? የትግሬ ነገር! እዋይ!

            አይኒ እንጉለ
            ልቤ ነሆለለ ጉልበቴ ዛለ
            ፈዝዤ ቀረሁ
            አይን አይኗን እያየሁ

          • Selam Abi.

            Have you watched the video, awate.com regional news, former G7 fighter abandoned eritrea?

            ሸፍታ ምታስሸፍት ቆንጅትዋ ጎንደሬ
            በሳህል በረሃ ስትኖር እስከዛሬ ፣
            ምስጋና ይድረሰው የኢሃደግ መንግስት
            እስዋስ ትመስላለች የሳሎኑዋ ወጣት።

          • Thomas

            Hi Haile S.,

            To be honest with you, I am not well familiar with the Ungule plant. I have seen Ungule and it looks exactly as you have described, but I was not aware of any use of Ungule. There was some Tigadalay I used to know he liked to call people silly people/fools Ungule. I used to laugh at that seeing the people he calls Ungula and most were the supporters of the regime. According to him, people who use hearsay and believing in what they are saying deeply without questioning are the Ungules. That is to say in Tigrigna “Libi Zei’bulu Tire E’U”:)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Haile,

            You are right that ” Solaneum Incanum” a herbal plant is used for for tanning. It has antimicrobial and antipyretic properties, and hence is used as homeopathic medicine.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Hi Amanuel,
            Thank you for the info. Studies and use on medicinal plants have a lot of future in our region. You find a lot of studies and reports ongoing in Ethiopia in Aklilu Lemma (the pioneer in the domain) institute of pathobiology and elsewhere. In eritrea not a lot, but a recent publication by Sium M et al on trace elements on selected medicinal plants…. is encouraging. In addition the authors took advantage of Bisha company’s technological capability to analyse the elements. Aside from the political polemics, use, cooperation even finance from such companies for research and education, I think, should be encouraged

          • Nitricc

            Hi Haile; hahahah I had no clue what Thomas was saying. I thought he had a few drinks and was having fun with me. Thanks for explaining I would have never know in a million years so, thanks millions. Since it is rich in ascorbic acid I am assuming it has a green color? but you said it resembles to tomato, does it have a tomato color?

          • Haile S.

            Hi Nitricc,
            You are right it is green and becomes yellow when ripe. Google it using the scietific name to see an image.

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon,

            No, I don’t deny the fact that Ethiopia is occupying Eritrea’s land. However, what does that has to do with no implementing our constitution, keep detaining our heroes and journalists, innocent civilians because they said something the mafias or your kinds, for making life so difficulty for all Eritreans youth so we see them going through deaths everyday. This is while fleeing the land that is unoccupied by the country you talk about day in and day out because your chicken cannot think of outside………..

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            Clearly, you are unable to think properly and that is why you are mixed up.

            Constitution or no Constitution, which does not bother me and which I have not mentioned at the moment, Ethiopia is occupying Eritrean land contrary to the rulings of the EEBC.

          • Dawit

            Hello Simon,
            Do you know why Bush was the worst President? He never bother to ask the “what then” question. After we take out Leaders of Iraq, what then? Same goes for your leader and that dead excuse to hold on to power. Most Ethiopians care less about badme but the big question is, what then? If we hand over badme, your guy is known to get cute and arrogant. He will use that strategic location to do harm than sit down and talk like an adult. Not to mention, your newly founded groups? What then? Only a kid says, my way or the highway, not a leader of great people. We have been ready for lasting peace, whenever you are.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Dawit,

            You fail to understand that the border ruling must be followed. Why did Ethiopia agree to the EEBC in the first place if it is going not to accept the ruling [that decided in favour of Eritrea on Badme]?

            Anything else is a diversion.

          • Abi

            Hi Simon
            Right now Badime is in good hands. We are protecting the people from your leader. When we decide it is time to give it back we will notify you via twitter.
            In the mean time please don’t bore us with badime thing. Even IA doesn’t mention it anymore.
            Relax.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abi,

            You need to protect your people first, for example the young girls who are preyed upon by Arab tourists. You see, I define an urgent job for you.

          • Nitricc

            Ato Abi you can’t even protect your own country Gonder let alone to protect Badime. Last time i check your masters, the wayene are massacring your people and you are talking about Badime. if you have any balles save your people from the Tigryan rule. at the end of the day the decision of the court will stand, trust me.

          • Abi

            General ንትርክ
            No! I don’t trust you. The court decision will be reversed. It is already null and void.
            I’m always surprised when I read a PFDJista talk about rule of law, court decision, final and binding BS.
            What do you know about this topics ? When you throw away people in hundreds of jails in your country did you bother about courts or rule of law? Your hypocrisy is boundless.

          • Nitricc

            Ras Abi, there are two things you failed to understand. there is internal issues and there is external one. you are mixing the two in typical Ethiopian way. Obviously you have a little understanding of the court; when you agree in final and binding, there is no return. just a little legal definition for you.
            i am telling you, it is good for you to get out of from Eritrean land with your dignity intact. just advice.

          • Abi

            General Nit
            So your screaming of ” Rule of Law ” is conditional on whether it is internal or external? Genius!ባለቤት የሰበረው ታጥቦ እንደተቀመጠ ይቆጠራል”
            You don’t need translation.
            I see you are advising me to leave badime with my dignity intact. How about if I stay in badime and dance on your dignity. I’m enjoying your humiliation immensely. I consider it like standing on the chest of a toothless bully and humiliate him in front of his girlfriend.
            ጀነራል ነትራኬ–“የዛሬን ብቻ ማረኝ
            ሁለተኛ አይደግመኝም”
            ራስ አቢ–” አስኮናኝ”
            እዋይ ውርደት!!!!

          • Hayat Adem

            To Nitricc,
            Well, Gheteb is volunteering to tutor our kids. I have one of my own internet kid here. So, lets start. Today we’ll see how logic works and puzzles are solved in arguements. We will take examples from actual exchanges and debates at Awate U.

            Abraham: the two leaders should talk and solve the border issue and move on. (I would say, this is thoughtful, responsible, problem solver and forward looking)

            Nitricc: Abraham, Why are you afraid to support the rule of law and call out on Weyane to leave Badime? (This coming from Nitricc is reasonable, consistent with his usual position on the issue. So far so good until Ras Abi, who was offered promotion but rejected saying he is happy as Ras, came and stirred it up)

            Abi: I am always surprised to see pfdjites to talk of the rule of law, courts, decisions bs. (Nice shot back here. It is targetting the weakest , most volunrable organ of pfdjites. The Ras does that always. He is merciless on them and he knows them too well.)

            Nitricc: Abi, there are internal issues, and there are internal issues. You are mixing both. Get out of Badime with your degnity before it is too late. (Oh, he comes back. He is not nocked down. Nitricc is known for enduring. But what does he mean by external/internal? Does he mean the principle of rule of law works differently depending on whether an issue is internal or external? Or he is indicating people give different priorities, more for external, less for internal. We don’t know yet. But lets give Nitricc the benefit of the doubt in case he is leading us to an important conept)

            Abi: So your screaming of ” Rule of Law ” is conditional on whether it is internal or external? Genius! Right now Badime is in good hands. We are protecting the people from your leader. (Oh, as feared, The Ras picked it. Nitricc was boomranged by his own stck. Lets hope he has something for a safe exit.)

            Nitricc: Ato Abi you can’t even protect your own country Gonder let alone to protect Badime..if you have any balles save your people from the Tigryan rule. (Wait a minute, last time minute i checked Gondar was not a country. How did the General make such a huge error? Maybe an innocent slip of keys when typing. I have to call him and check on this. /Ringing. Phone picked by the General……Got my answers./ The poor General was trying to be consistent with what he asserted earlier. The internal- external issue. In order what Tigray did to Gondar be considered as an external issue, Gondar needs to be a full blown country.)

            Yaa. If you think about it, it makes sense. If you don’t think about it, it makes more sense. At the end of the day, we solved the puzzle but we complicated the logic.
            Hayat,
            Dedicated to tes who is showing so much of a promising future and personal growth right here before our eyes.

          • iSem

            Hi Hayat:
            I almost called u Queen, but I cought myself, not that you do not deserve it, but it is not orginal as Abi already has used it.
            Now, about Nitricc, it is all ur fault his body rejected your donnation. Nigtricc, hold the guns,it is an old joke:-)
            About Tes: He has always said deep things unless Hope or Nitricc or Gheteb or dawit (retired or may be busy extending that skinny hand of his) are bugging him. But Tes’s one fault is that he says extremely gripping and thoughtful things many times, but we do not notice because has a knack at saying them at the wrong time But lately he was saying them at the right time that s why it feels he has shown growth, while all while it was there

          • tes

            Selam iSem,

            Ah, I thought I was always speaking all time at the right time. You know this is how messages are gone unheard. I think they were like spills of emotions that I had no control of them. I was trying to say because I had something to say. It is good anyway at least now I am saying something on the right time.

            By the way, I missed Hope, as Abi calls him – Hope Geragru. Gurundog Gheteb is a new title given – either figure it out for what it stands for or I will tell to Nitricc and Simon.

            dawit, zinegese nigusna – I heard that his house is dismantled by PFDJ buldozers??

            Simon Kaleab looks harmless – as his approach is more one liner though naughty.

            tes

          • tes

            Selam Hayat Adem,

            This is a big gift, really big gift. You have unique gift to summarize the whole discourses of events and thinking combined.

            No one knows Nitricc more than you do even his mentor saay7 has lost him some where when Nitricc started to write more than two paragraphs in one comment.

            Yah a mother knows her son no matter how he tries to be asmarino.

            Nitricc has new friend, Gurundog Gheteb. They don’t like each other except when they meet in the smoking room. Nitricc hates him most, than I do, but he is ok with him as far Gurundog smokes.

            Thank you so much for your gift and for your nice words. It means a lot to me.

            tes

          • abysinay

            selam nitricc

            you seem you are bothered about ethiopia rather than you own.ya b/c of your ethiopian blood…and have some banda thought from your banda(italian or arab dud) father.

            ……wedi dmus kem kedemu ….. belu weledna.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Simon, we cannot wait for the international community to do the job for us. We’ve waited for this for 17 years, nothing happened. It is upto the leaderships of both countries to solve their border issue based on the border ruling. If the Ethiopians want security guarantees, then Eritrean regime must sit down with them and find a solution for together. We cannot sacrifice a nation because of a village that we didn’t bother to get it back after the liberation of Eritrea when the Ethiopians were administering it fully until DIA decided to envade and capture it by force.
            The simple truth is DIA doesn’t have the political gut to sit with the Ethiopians to find a working solution to the unresolved border issue. Also let’s remember we are talking about more than 1000 miles of common border that needs to be demarcated; accordingly to cry Badme or nothing is meaningless and irresponsible about the fate of the Eritrean people.
            We may think that we can take back Badme by force, but that is simply waste of lives; most probably impossible, and it is not going to bring a lasting peace. Hence our only alternative is for our leaders to show political maturity and talk to each other.

          • Nitricc

            Ato Abraham why do pia has to sit with Ethiopians for? The court already rendered its viridict. Your wayanay self can’t even see the truth huh. If you have guts and believe in a rule of law, call your coward weyane to honor what they agreed upon. Sunny: you can’t call for rule of law while ignoring the rule of law. What is up your people. How hypocritical are you. No wonder. You cowardness beaming for everyone to see. Are one of those closet Agazian? You sound like one.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Nitricc, talking is needed to implement the eebc decision. What else can DIA do other than crossing his hands and waiting for decades crying Badme or death? It simply doesn’t make sense, and is outright irreponsible for a leader to act that way in 2017.

          • Nitricc

            HI Abraham why are you afraid of to call for the rule of law to be implemented and to call Weyane what they are? If weyane can’t uphold what they sign in front of the entire world what makes you they will obey talking behind doors. The only thing the Weyane asking for dialogue is to simply to take the matter out of the court’s decision. once Eritrea agrees to the back door dialogue the court’s decision comes void and null, then you are back to square one. I know i am wasting my time but i tried. again what is wrong with you people? Eritrea and weyane couldn’t dialogue it was skirmish, again they can’t dialogue, it was a full scale war. the war couldn’t decided the out come and the went to court and finally the court rendered its verdict. to make things worst, the deal was final and finding. Now, as you are Eritrean, if you are one, where exactly do you see any wrong doing by the Eritrean government? I thought you stand for the rule of law? why not start from here? once a person of character believes in justice, there is no conditional one. do you believe in a rule of law or not?

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Nitricc, We’ve been through this border issue thing many times before; Eritrea has been insisting final and binding for 15 years now, and no one listens. The only solution is by sitting together and find the solution, of course, based on the eebc ruling. You talk in order to solve the practical issues of the real demarcation on the ground. Talking doesn’t mean the eebc ruling will be null and void, that is impossible because this is an internationally guaranteed and filed ruling. Eritrea can also come up with additional conditions for entering into dialogue, such as not altering by any means the final and binding nature of the ruling, that it would only talk about practical matters and possible adjustments to the border line so as to make it least painful for the people concerned who live in those areas. Eritrea can even ask for renewed guarantees from international bodies to protect the legality of the eebc ruling. Nitricc, you need to be sensible, and try to find a solution rather than slamming the door, because that is simply meaningless.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abraham H.,

            So, you are confirming your Ethiopian sympathies being more concerned about Ethiopian “security guarantees”. Why did Ethiopia agree to the EEBC in the first place if it is going not to accept the ruling [that decided in favour of Eritrea on Badme]?

            In that case, no matter how deep your hatred for the government of Eritrea, do not be alarmed if Eritrea forms its own alliances that will make Ethiopia even more insecure.

          • Abi

            Hi Simon
            You don’t make friends to insecure others. That is a very sick idea and the friendship doesn’t last. In Amharic we call it የእንቧይ ካብ ::
            In case you missed it Ethiopia is making friends with countries in every direction , near or far, poor or rich, New or old…
            መንገዶች ሁሉ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ያመራሉ
            Deal with it.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abi,

            Clearly Ethiopia is jittery about Eritrea’s new alliances.

            When are going to concentrate on helping and giving security to the street girls in Addis Ababa?

          • Abi

            Hi Simon
            You are obsessed with the street girls in Ethiopia as if none exists in Eritrea or the rest of the world. Street girls exist even in the well developed western countries. What is special about Ethiopia?
            I hope you focus on the Eritrean girls suffering in SAWA rape camp.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abi,

            The street girls of Addis Ababa are a well known Middle Eastern attraction. I stick to Eritrean problems, but it is you who ignore Ethiopia’s problems and meddle 24/7 in someone’s affairs.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Simon Kaleab, the security guarantee is mutual; when Ethiopia feels no longer at threat from the Eritrean side, so does Eritrea because the main external threat to Eritrea whether real or percieved comes from Ethiopia. Regarding Badme, I’ve already said what I wanted to say, and this is becomig a circus. My position is you can’t hold a country’s opportunities hostage by claiming we will never talk unless Ethiopia withdraws from that symbolic village. It is simply idiotic, to say the least.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abraham H.,

            It is your right to defend Ethiopian interests. But, I am reminding you that the EEBC border ruling must be followed.

          • abysinay

            kefat simon
            eebc has gone ones for all ..pia rejected it.Ethiopia didn’t acept it ,b/c it put conditions for your regime to fulfill..wedi afom failed to do so. it no longer exists.

          • kazanchis

            Hi Dawit,
            ” Eritrea መሬትዋ እንጂ ሕዝብዋ ኣያስፈልገንም” is one of the ውሸት ሲደጋገም እውነት ይመስላል. You can’t blame Peace for what he said to be honest. The two countries will normalize relations someday, let me be optimistic, but the main threat would be those with Isayas’s head and they will continue to try upheld such suicidal ideology.

          • Dawit

            The sad part, they truly believe this crap. They truly painted this ugly picture of us sitting around the coffee table, plotting how to destroy Eritreans. To some extent I must admit, it’s working. God help us!

        • Mez

          Dear Peace,

          Please be peace maker and not peace killer by building one lie after another; even Dr. Goebbels did not succeed in that at the end. There is no Ethiopian Emperor or Derg policy saying ” Eritrea መሬትዋ እንጂ ሕዝብዋ ኣያስፈልገንም”. This is a complete misinformation and propaganda.

          if there is a such a policy, please mention the source and let us look at it. If we want to have a new and fresh future, then we have to be truthfull at least.
          thanks,

          • Peace!

            Hi Mez,

            What source? Are you saying the 30 years of brutal occupation not enough for the government and people of Ethiopia to apologies and work for lasting peace between both people?

            Peace!

          • Mez

            Dear Peace,

            Please explain and cite, who said: ” Eritrea መሬትዋ እንጂ ሕዝብዋ ኣያስፈልገንም”.
            thanks a lot for your effort ahead.

          • Peace!

            Hi Mez,

            I just gave you a practical source; in fact, it was not even just a slogan; it was used to massacre innocent Eritreans. Now, do you still want me to site what facists HS and Derg said during the 30 years of occupation, or the crime they commited was evil enough to make what they said irrelevant?

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            It is sad to see a smart person like yourself believe in this kind of things.
            It is a hoax just like everything else.
            ሞኝ የተከለውን ልባም አይነቅለውም
            You have been fed propaganda that locked your mind from searching the truth.

          • Peace!

            Hi Gash Abish,

            What propaganda, I grew up under Derg’s terror although that was not the point I was trying to make. What I am saying rather understanding historical context is useful for moving forward, not bragging.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            You are not bragging at all. What is there to brag about? Nothing.
            You are simply regurgitating what you have consumed.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Thank you, Dabo First 🙂 Have you tried YeGurisha Bet? simply magnificent.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Peace
            You are back in Addis? I’m not surprised. Enjoy my Beautiful city. Now you are bragging about yeGursha bet. Yes dabo first!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            No. I am in FinF’ne. You know we are coming back!

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Peace
            Anytime Buddy. Finfine is yours as much as mine. It is you jumped on the madness train called independence hoax. Welcome to common sense!
            ቤቴ ቤትህ ነው አገሬ አገርህ
            ንግግርህ መልካም አይታመን ልብህ

          • tes

            Selam Peace!

            There is nothing called moving forward when you feel good about Ethiopian suffering. In this forum, if there anyone who expects worst thing to happen in Ethiopia is you. It is very rare to see such a full of hatred person towards Ethiopia these days. Unfortunately you are among Awate Forumers diffusing every hate possible, every bad wishes possible towards a country that could have been otherwise no matter what happened in the past.

            Please let us move forward.

            tes

          • Peace!

            Selam Tes,

            You are putting words in my mouth, all I said was understanding historical context is useful for moving forward. Please read it again when you get sober. You won’t need to apologize as usual.

            *** I told you many times no to comment when you are drank. If you insist, here is a useful book for you my friend ” Drinking Rules For Common Decency.”:)

            Peace!

          • tes

            Selam Peace!,

            This could have been a good advice if I were as you said. Forget about the book therefore.

            Peace!, you are the one who even didn’t hide your excitation when conflict was errupted in Ethiopia recently. You don’t care but you could have at least had a thought on what happened to Ruwanda. You came with your narrow mind of hatred as if it was the end of TPLF/Woyane regime while it was a potentially tragedic conflict between different ethnic groups. You didn’t wish a peaceful end of Oromo protests rather your cheered as if it was an upraise against your enemy, TPLF.

            And these are written here in this platform. Everyone read it and everyone will read it.

            Peace! yyour comment here is not sincere. You don’t expect to move together with Ethiopia. Ethiopia for you is a TPLF state. You are so narrow. You sticked to your 1998-2000 memories of Ethiopia or during the fall of Derg, in 1991. You are a typical amiche, if not evil as that of tesfanews founder, you are a bad wish outlet

            But now you seem to have changed your tone. On the history side, I am with you. we can not forget our history and what happened to us. but history is a lesson to learn from not to live on. Without comprmosing our history, we can move on for a better future.

            I am with you when you came out from hatred and say, let us move on.

            We don’t deserve war, we deserve peace. Not only in Eritrea but in the entire horn of Africa and Africa in general.

            tes

          • Peace!

            Hi Tes,

            What’s wrong with joining millions of Ethiopians and opposing TPLF for the ongoing mass killings, looting, torturing and even wishing for its demise? Aren’t you a justice seeker? Most Ethiopians here are TPLF apologists (Ethiopia’s PFDJistas version) and never care for, and never even bother to mention the dying of thousands innocent Ethiopians, so when they keep BRAGGING and BRAGGING and BRAGGING, it is good to mention the big elephant in the room, perhaps it reminds them their priority order.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Selam Peace,

            I believe Tes is very busy in trying to save lives in his own country. Unlike you, Tes never missed Ethiopia and he has no attachment to Ethiopia or Ethiopians. Unlike he does not have plan to go and live In Ethiopia. He never migrated to Ethiopia at any time in his life and he was never deported from Ethiopia and he must have known we the Eritreans have departed the Ethiopians when it was necessary during our independence time. Tes’s priority is Eritrea and Eritreans because to him Ethiopian issue is better left to them. The Eritreans have been hit by PFDJ for 17 years and they Ethiopian upraising was like yesterday/meaning very recently.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            This guy was in Ethiopia while all things were happening in Eritrea. I consider him more of an Ethiopian than Eritrean. What does he know except what he has gathered from the University of Awate Forum.

          • Abi

            Tomi
            Peace is from Piazza. The farthest he travelled outside Addis was when he was vacationing at Sodore and Langano. Now he thinks he knows a lot about Eritrean history.

          • Mez

            Dear peace,

            ያንተ ነገር ፠ በርኖሥ ቢገላበጥ በርኖሥ ሆኖ ቀረ፠ የተባለው ሆነ፤

            አሜን።

          • Peace!

            Hi Mez,

            “አባቱ ዳኛ ልጁ ቀማኛ” ግብዝነት ጥሩ ኣይደለም የኔ ወንድም።

            Peace!

          • Amde

            Selam Mez,

            I have asked that question for years now and I have yet to get a believable answer. The closest to something plausible like that would be from an army/security person. But in any case, there is no evident policy practiced by the Ethiopian side that comes anywhere close to what is implied. Yes, both HS and the Derg were engaged in sometimes brutal counter-insurgency. There were villages decimated and people purged out as refugees. But that is unfortunately the nature of insurgency and counter insurgency.

            In fact, in terms of sheer numbers, the number of post-independence is so high, and the nature of the regimes preferential internal displacement is so much, that we can say there is an Asmara policy that says:
            “ኩናማ መሬቱ እንጂ ህዝቡ አያስፈልገንም።”
            and
            “አፋር ወደቡ እንጂ ህዝቡ አያስፈልገንም።”

            Such statements can be borne out by the actual nature of refugee outflow, internal displacement and land dispossession that has been a feature of the PFDJ regime. In short, there is such a policy that is being implemented from PFDJs Asmara, there is no evidence of such policy ever having been implemented from Addis Ababa.

            Amde

          • Mez

            Selamat Amde,

            I have also tried to get a retrievable evidence in written, video, or audio …form. I even tried to match that phrase with the Library of Congress and find something towards that end towards that end for a fortnight; nothing to find. I have not seen any discrimination policy against peoples with Eritrean origin back then in any of the government machinery. Be it in education, job offer, or business opportunity….

            It is really unbelievable, to me, that someone says that without knowing the source, or not willing to acknowledge that that was wrong and was more of war propaganda.

            Thanks again Amde

          • Selam Amde,

            It was nothing more than a propaganda ploy to mobilize the eritrean people and win their hearts and minds and that of others, mainly arab nations.
            -the emperor said that he wanted the land and not the eritrean people,
            -the christian emperor was converting eritrean muslims to christianity by force,
            -ethiopia is a colonizer, etc.
            …..were among the weapons used by the propagandists. With time it became the truth, because facts did not matter anymore. Therefore, do not look for facts, because there never were in the first place.

          • Abi

            Selam Mez Amde Horizon
            This propaganda was used to mobilize urban and rural Eritreans. It worked. It is better to leave the explanation for Eritreans. I hope Tes will come with some kind of information . He has also used the same BS some time ago.

          • iSem

            Hi Horizon:
            The exact words are immaterial, the action of the king are. For sure, there is no audio or video or even written documents to that effect, maybe it a quip among trusted aids. Even WELWEL does nto remember saying, “Eritreans have agreed to disagree”, a quote attributed to him.
            But, even if the quote attributed to the king is false, it does make him saint, nay, even human being if you are to translate his actions. Ethiopia had slavery until 1942, he massacred thousands in Eritrea, although the reason for Ghedl was the annextion , his cruelty was the main reason Ghedli got traction even among the lowlands, when they joined to defend their humanity and property and dignity and liberty, all inalienable, God given, the same God the “Lion of Judah” supposedly believed in
            So again, all of us, Eritreans and Ethipians, since our destinity is linked, let us tell the truth and let us not defend even if someone with tained past is our kin and kith

          • Selam iSem,
            It is right to separate words from actions. I Can accept that hsi and the derg were devils and they have committed atrocities in eritrea. Do you accept that hsi wanted the land and not the eritrean people, etc, was propaganda? If we have to leave to posterity the truth, it must be the whole truth.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon and all,

            This words may be used for propaganda, if no body said them, but Eritreans did not chose to fight because of such words, but rather by the actions of the rulers. Do you guys remember Derg celebration of 10th anniversary of the revolution, and the show of arms, the marching solidiers, thousands of thousands, with North Korea and Soviet style marches. Where did you think this armies headed too?

            Please google massawa bombing 1990, Ted couple ABC night line footage.

            There you will see a young boy, asking his elder brother, ” are they going to bury us too” witnessing those that being buried.

            This happen to be recorded because the journalists were there, but that was every village which was not under their control.

            And this was consitent with the King HS policy to quashing rebellion, he did it in Harer, he did it in Tigray (Weyane I) and he was doing to Eritrea. Deng picked up where it left off and they were doing it at a larger rate, they also did it in Tigray, Hawzien still the TPLF remember every year, same as the Italians did in Ethiopia.

            In our ears we heard day and night, wembede, petro dollar, tegenTayoch, Eritrea want to sell to the Arabs, day and night. I guarantee you we didn’t fight because of the insults we heard in the radio.

            So if we are to analyze, we need to look at the root cause first instead of looking at the reaction.

            But let’s move on, 25 years later we need to learn from past destructive wars and look forward to the future.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi Horizon and Mez:
            Horizon, sure, I have no video or audio proof, but also I do not have proof on video and audio for Wekid Duba and all the villages that the king burned and looted and raped through his mercenary soldiers.
            Mez: the policy question is none-sense, show me if Saddam has written policy when he uses gas on the Kurds, show me proof about Gaddaffi written proof for all the heinous crimes, in the same token when Dergi Massacred Ethiopians and Eritrean he did not have policy to massacre all suspected with red terror, show me policy on red terror, it was what people called it, named the crimes against them aptly.
            Show me proof that PFDJ has a written policy to massacre Eritreans, on the contrary their name has justice and democracy in it

          • Mez

            Dear iSem,

            I beleive there must be some core value of certain vital things in life; be it on the north or southern side of the Mereb River. If not seeking the truth, in certain damaging thouts such as what we are discussing above, is going to be the bench-mark
            –how should we discuss, digest, understand the past and move on to the future?
            In such a scenario, the content may be lost in the translation/transition, and that may really be without trace.

            I have no knowledge of Arabic Language; so I can not comment or come into discussion as to what was happening in the era of Sadam in Iraq or about the Libya of Gadafi. But I have a very good grasp of historical happenings, good or bad, in Europe; especially the German, and Rusian related events–including antisimetism. I speak their lanuage, been among them, and have a good grasp on their historical accounts. if we could confine our discussion to our two nations, very good; if not I can only cite and understand example from the above mentioned area. To sum-up, the Germans did not deny that they go to war with Russia to concur it and get every thing,; impose their will and power; “Lebensraum fuer die Deutschen”–“living space for the Germans”. They didn’t either deny that the very war they started anihilated their war machine to the last functioning one. They never lied why they started the war. And they never lied that they terribly lost the war. The best and authentic historical document about second wolrd war is still to be found in Germany or in Russia, and no where else. If you will, you have the option to talk to those who were part of the war effort, on both sides of the warfront. without any if and why… This is the tye of “historical accounts bench mark” what will give sense to build a new perpetual bridge between communities and countries across east aftrica. Not the one you aluded me to beleive and move on.The Second world war stated with a clear objective and ended with a clear winner and looser. The same thing is in the Ethi-Eritrean conflict.

            Thanks

          • iSem

            Hi Mez:
            I agree with you, mostly, and about the German war as well. And also there is no denying from my part that the Eri side used politics to elevate its cause, good example when Dergi massacred people in Shieb in late 1980s, the EPLF pictured it right and left and showcased gruesome beheaded person,that rallied the base, I am not saying they did not exaggerate things for their cause.
            But regarding the words of HS, that are often quoted, I conceded that I never saw a document ror or heard an audio, maybe it was said to close aids, maybe it was the interpretation of Eritrean when they saw his actions, when the things i mentioned happened, someone could have said, the crimes he is taking on the people feelike he is not interested in the people, but its land.
            I am a big Ghedli critic, but one thing it preached was differentiating the Ethiopian people from the rules, both Dergi and HS, and the Eritrean Ghedli never targeted Ethiopian civilians, both Ethiopian regimes did.
            If the Ethiopian regimes were the biggest supporters of the Ghedli

          • kazanchis

            Hello Horizon,

            Exactly, Haile Silassie gave so much to Eritrea and Eritreans. He had no ill motive. The businesses were run by Eritreans, the rare privilege of university education was also unproportionally dominated by Eritrean origins, the king was built factories in Eritrea. There are many evidences he did remarkably well, yet he was a feudal king and many have suffered in Ethiopia and the injustice of hundred of years came to bite him. I wonder how some people get the guts to accuse him as a cannibal without any concrete evidence, his good out weights his bad for Eritrea – people had hope and ordinary life. Whereas, Isayas is doing what he’s best at – killing the hope out of the society, no one is entitled for the right of ordinary life.

          • Abi

            Hi Kazanchis
            You will never find an Eritrean who has a shared of courage to be grateful for what the King did to Eritreans.
            They were colonized. You remember?
            I had a long talk with one of the first Alemaya university graduates. He is a PhD . He won’t stop talking about his experience at that college and then as a government bureaucrat in Addis.
            I reminded him that it was the king’s time. He said,” No! No ! No! It was the American government supporting the college.”
            What a disgusting Zombie!

          • kazanchis

            Hello Abi,

            You see? That gentleman got university education and decent job. Still thinks he was colonized and that in other words mean he was enslaved. Imagine a slave with university education… That should be an interesting story for novelists. The suffering he had when he finished high school, he had to travel by bus or plane from Asmara to Addis Ababa then to Alemaya. That should have been very traumatic, Abi. He graduated and the bloody Ethiopians offered him job and treated him like second class citizen. 🙂 I should start focusing on writing the novel myself. 😂
            But I see few Eritreans with common sense and laughing off that assertion. Credit where credit is due.

            Melkam ken!

          • Abi

            Hi Kazanchis
            You skipped that this POW was tortured for four long years at Alemaya university. To make his life miserable the bloody king used to pay him some pocket money. As he complained to me he was forced to drink milk only.
            After he was released from Alemaya prison, the King keep torturing him by assigning him in the one of the ministries.
            Long story short, he fled the country called Ethiopia to make his own. Free at last!!!
            Now he is sending more Eritrean refugees than Ethiopia can handle.
            This time not to Alemaya prison camp. No Sir. The new King of Ethiopia found them better places.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kazanchis and all,

            I think you a little context may be important. During the Eritrean federation a lot of good things happened in Eritrea, like business opportunity, education and other social aspects. If I am not mistaken all the major educations centers were build during that time, KeHas, Luel Mekonen, Asmara University, commercial building like Nyla Hotel (highest building in Asmara, may be it still is), Sport Complex (Asmara Stadium, where the other city who hosted the 3rd African Foot Champion ship) etc.

            At the same time, Eritrea had it’s parliament and it’s minsters who worked really hard to build the business opportunity and established and opened the country for business with the large population of Italian business people.

            For example, some current ministers within the Eritrean government, Arafaine Berhe Minister of Agriculture, the ministry of Finance (or use to be I think) Abrehe were educated in Alamaya.

            If Eritrea or Eritreans got special preference over other Ethiopians or other part of Ethiopia, I don’t know. I think like all normal human beings, they took advantage of the opportunities that were available at the time.

            For example in 1962 African cup of nations, the list of players were majority Eritreans. Did they get special preference or they happen to be more talented at the time.

            GK Gila-Michael Tekle-Mariam
            ‘ Asmelash Berhe
            ‘ Awade Mohammed
            ‘ Kiflom Araya
            ‘ Berhe Goitom
            ‘ Tesfaye Gebremedhin
            ‘ Girma Tekle Substituted off
            ‘ Italo Vassalo
            ‘ Luciano Vassalo
            ‘ Mengistu Worku
            ‘ Getachew Wolde
            Substitutions:
            ‘ Tekle Kidane Substituted in
            Manager:
            Ydnekatchew Tessema

            Did these Eritreans who played for Ethiopia and help win the championship (ever since) didn’t play hard enough so that the Ethiopia flag raised high.

            Ethiopia and the King have benefited greatly by Eritrea federation, port access, manufacturing expansion (Italians and others), Eritrean skilled workers, American Military base payments, etc..

            But you guys need to consider, the King policy towards the lowlands and Muslim Eritrea and dismantling of the federation was a cause for the breakup. Eritrean Orthodox (mostly those who wanted Union) had not joined the rebellion in mass until the Derg escalated the war.

            So you have to look at things from both perspectives…

            To be honest, if we had nothing to do with Ethiopia and HS, I think it may have better for Eritreans. If our relation ship was based on interests as separate country like Djibouti is today, then it may have been better.

            What ever we build during the HS or Derg in terms of education, etc…I think we would be able to do in own like all others were doing post colonial times…just like what Ethiopia were doing…

            Just because we end up Isayas it doesn’t mean that’s all we can do today.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            I agree with you that the king should never brought Eritrea into the fold.
            ትርፉ ኪሳራ ነው

          • kazanchis

            Dear Berhe,

            It is tough to dispute your points mostly. Yes, most Eritreans had the upper hand in many aspects back in the day so they seized the opportunity and that’s alright. There was utter injustice in Ethiopia with HS as well as Derg even with the now EPRDF, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Eritrean Muslims were marginalized under the Emperor. If you ask me personally I would have liked to take your scenario that Eritrea and Ethiopia as two separate entity than the union. That would have saved us a lot of lives and fortune. As an Ethiopian I feel sorry for what happened to you and to us as well. We have suffered a lot as well. The regimes were equally brutal to both of us. I just don’t like when people state Ethiopia and Ethiopians as aggressors while we are also victims of the past inept leaders.

            To add more concerning education, I studied educational science myself and one of the basics when expanding education is its fairness. Back then it wasn’t fair when 25% plus students were from Eritrea and the other areas like Oromia and Amhara and Debub were by far less represented. There had to exist a mechanism to deal with such injustice which could have been some affirmative action but the HS regime was known for it’s injustice to Ethiopians so nothing new.

            Finally, about football. Yes Eritrean players were superb players back then due to very tense competition of teams within Eritrea. I got two volumes of books recently published by Genene Mekuria, Ehapa ena Sport 1 and 2. He gave us vivid image of teams like Eritrea Chama, Adulis, Hamassen, Qey Bahir… I hope these teams do exist now but probably not.

            I wish you to bounce back from IA setback and rebuild a strong and peaceful Eritrea for it’s people and its neighbors. I’m sure you guys will!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kazanchis,

            Thank you for the reply and thank you for the best wishes. I couldn’t agree with you more, and I hope there will be better days.

            Our recent footballers, they have been using their talent as one way ticket out of the country, so I don’t think there is much movement in that regard. There teams exist but in different forms, I had a great fond memories of Chama (chipolini and Qey bahir Elpa and Adulis) but was too young during Hamasien time. How ever cycling have taken off and I think that’s the best prospects for now, with athletics following second.

            Sometimes, I think we are not blessed people (at least Eritreans) that we ended up with leaders that turned our lives upside down and may be Ethiopians too.

            It’s hard to say how things would have turned down, but I think things may have been able to be managed better. For example I think the speech Gen Andom gave in Asmara, it could have been a turning point to end the hostility and end the war.

            If you hear the interview from that time from one of the ELF leaders Osman Saleh Sabe,….they were open to peaceful dialog and they were looking how things turned out in Ethiopia…he said “It looks like the hardliner have taken over the Ethiopian revolution and any peaceful end may not be possible” I am paraphrasing…but there is an actual video of his interview.

            Berhe

          • kazanchis

            Dear Berhe,

            I hope Eritreans will find solution for their problems themselves and I hope no one have to intervene and above all I hope and pray for no more bloodshed. We have had enough. Even if you win the war, you lose massively. War is really unaffordable.

            Eritrea and Dire Dawa were home for great players and most national team players were coming from these two areas. Ethiopian football players during Derg time used to desert while on international duty and many of them are living in Canada, US and Europe. Some even had interviews in radio and TV shows and it’s now entertaining after all but it wasn’t easy back then. Ethiopian players are now well payed and they have no desire of fleeing. I’m sure when Eritrea opens up for private sector, everything will improve dramatically. I hope those jerseys of Chama, Qey Bahir, Adulis and so on will be worn again with pride by footballers as well as fans. 🙂

            Kindly,
            Kazanchis

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kasanchis,

            Thank you for the best wishes again. When we consider how long the conflict has lasted, and how long we have been seeking to live in peace it is quite something. I can’t think of any where, except may be N.Korea that the people have to suffer this long, with may be the Palestinian people.

            Few months ago, I saw a youtube video honoring Desalegn Negesh (I think his last name) for life time achievement or something. He was the goalie for Eritrea Chama (Chipolini), I use to see him on regular basis when he was walking to his homes via our neighborhood and he was such a great guy always makes time to shake hands as we run to see him. I don’t know when, but I think he was signed but one of the teams in Addis

            Another guy who was my young brother childhood friend and I played soccer when we were young and his name is Mekonnen Zeru (Wedi Zeru). Apparently he become one of the popular players in Addis or involved with the foot ball federation. His parents were from Tigray but he was born in Asmara and one of the nicest family that I know…their home were just open for the whole neighborhood on every occasion they had… I don’t know if he was one of those deported to Ethiopia after the war or the family moved, but the whole family moved to Addis Abeba.

            I hope a day we will see a team from Eritrea and Ethiopia battling for world cup qualifying or the African Championship…And what ever rivalry we have, should be limited to sports..

            Berhe

          • kazanchis

            Dear Berhe,

            Thank you for the reply and sharing such an interesting story. I really hope that to happen and we have differences but we have a lot in common as well. We don’t have to disrespect or embolden our differences. We are all humans at the end of the day – Adam and Eve! Keweresnew tilacha, yeminawersew fiker yibeltal. I hope you understand Amharic a bit. Yes, the generations before us left us with hatred to others, but a love we cherish is better. Terrible translation but hey I tried. haha

            Have a great weekend!
            Kazanchis

          • Berhe Y

            Dear kazanchis,

            I hope to believe that I know Amharic, I am married at amiche and I grew up in Eritrea during Derg times. My kids have so first cousins / second cousins who are Ethiopians by marriage, Amara, Tigray, Gurage, Oromo…and I happen to most of the weddings and family gatherings, but that I get the pleasure of meeting everyone and dancing to all kind of music and eating all food,

            In one of the wedding, that we attended with my good friend iSem, I tried for the first time gored gored, I love Kitfo but that was my first time I really enjoyed. My friend iSem would not touch it…even thought he loves Sushi:) and I don’t think he loves kitfo either… And he doesn’t dance Amharic but when they played Sudanese music (Wordi I think) he run looking for a girl who grew up in Sudan attending the meeting and grab her to dance with him. He introduced me foods that are Sudanese and he cooks real Shahani fool with proper ingredients..

            I think Eritrea is blessed and it should be a bridge to different countries, religion and languages, foods….that’s why I hope that we will have a better and brighter future if we just manage to live in peace with our two immediate neighbors, Sudan and Ethiopia.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi Kazanchis:
            Let us separate and fiction from fact.
            Fact: HS abolished federation, he burned villages and killed innocent people like any tyrant would do, and he pulled religious and and regional strings pitting people against each other. Being an outlaw he broke the rules of federation, if it took its natural course Eritreans would have voted infavor of union, he had no confidence in his backward thinking to use civilized means of political discourse to bring people toghether he chose division and division is what he got: Eritrea divided and Tigray also fought against Ethiopia and at one point separation crossed the minds of TPLF founders. He had a choice to play it cool, use the good will he has in highlanders to pull the country together, there by avoiding the opportunity lost during the last 50 years. Now Ethiopia would not be struggling to feed itself, it would have been a country at the level of at least feeding and clothing itself adequately.

            Asmara university languished under both Ethiopians regimes, no technical teaching there. Aslo although Asmara u was establishe in 1958 some 8 years after Addis U , it was offering quality education under the name of “Santa Familia”, a name that many Eritreans in their 70s who studied there still use

            Fiction: HS gave so much to Eritreans, If he abolished federation and murdered people and burned villages and then he allowed some Eritreans to go to university, big deal, did not he believe Eritrea part of Ethiopia.

            The reason you saw at one point higher number of Eritreans in engineering and technical fields was because they had a little advantage Although Addis university was founded before Asmara university, Eritrean had more tech skills because before most Ethiopia saw vehicles, Eritreans drove cars, worked in factories, used screw drivers and saw machinery, due to the Italian influence they were drawn to these fields and on top of that the Asmara Technical school(Tegbared) was established, I think at the same time Ethiopian tegbared. So it was not the special access HS gave to Eritreans.
            Government good or bad, dictators or democrats want services, and train people to count their stolem money build their houses, fix their cars so build schools and some can sneak through these and make name for themselves like it is happening in Eritrea, like it happened in Libya and Iraq. PFDJ still teaches people, and builds schools, the racist Italians did allow some education and many prospered under their rule.

          • kazanchis

            Hi iSem,

            You argued with two streams one as ‘fiction’ the other as ‘fact’. The points you mentioned can’t be backed with factual evidences but rather they are your opinion and you are entitled to have an opinion. But to remind you few things weren’t there many Eritreans wanting complete-union with Ethiopia? What would be your argument for that? Why did he murder and burn villages? Did it happen out of nothing or was it in counter insurgency? But hey both of facts and fictions were mostly your opinion.

            Cheers!

          • iSem

            Hi Kazanchins:
            I said, ‘…the good will…”, and I am referring the 50 % Eritreans who wanted union, this is fact. And the facts of burning villages of murdering people and looting by HS is fact.
            Also it is fact that his murders were in response to insrugercency but HS did not murder the rebelel, the “wenbedes” , not even spies, it was innocent women and children and eldery . The rebelels faced him in the battle fields, some time he won, some times they won and he he killed them, it is fair and square in war, this is also fact and they killed too. Evnetually his killing spree turned those who wanted union against his and his country and they won, he asked for division he got division. It was not only Eritreans who were subjected to the Ethiopian cruelty, there is a reason whty first TPLF and secod TPLF were formed, it is why EDU and many others opposed.
            So now, tell my any non-fact from both my comments to you. Facts cannot be opinion, but if you want to deny facts, it is you choice
            One thing for sur, there will always be those who will not be convinced with truth and will keep defending the king, will keep telling us that Mengisut was an equal opportunity killer, that long after IA is gone there will be still be ppl defending him. We can live with it.
            I am just telling you that, do not pontificate to us that HS and Ethiopia was good to Eritreans, you can say that he was good to you personaly and maybe to your tribe, the decades of slavery and destitution of Tigray was the king’s making.
            And bringing a handful lucky people like Dr Berket, and a few families who the king’s lackeys does not represent Eritreans, neither the Phd that Abi mentions.
            There were also feudals who prospered under the king in Tigray, who like King Herod wanted to kill the infant TPLF, is this a fiction?

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi Sara,
      “better to have a chicken tomorrow than an egg today.”
      Allow me to play with it a bit.
      What if this egg grows to be chicken enough before tomorrow?
      What if death comes to you before tomorrow and before you get a chance to meet your chicken?
      What if ….

    • iSem

      Hi Sara:
      You mean well, but please do not fall for the long term BS. As Saleh said in this article, as many said in the comments the PFDJ buoyed by the myopia of its suppers as they do challege but say yes to everything the dictator does, Assab has become drinking water for camels as MZ cursed it, good for our camels, we can even have an alternarive business of providing drinking salt water for the camels business for Ethiopia. So, we have gone backward 25 years, the proverbial train has left and as you know it will take a few decades as we fix the problems that PFJD has introduced:the issue of uniting the country, fixing the land issue, building the jutice system, building the economy, and above all rejuvenating the optimism of the people, the idea of having chicken tomorrow by forging the egg today is a falacy the PFDJ has introduced to elongate the suffering, it is no egg today, no chicken tomorrow, a better idea is to have some of your eggs today, but save some for the chicken tomorrow, the no egg today… is like let us do the slavery project to day for better tomorrow

      • sara

        akhuna seim
        enta lesh zaelan?…i am telling our etiopian awtistas,that i am(didn’t say we) happy you are building all those infrastructure through djubuti,somalia,keny,sudan that you will not need eritrea ever, that way there will be peace between the two neighbors because your country will have enough many choices and better services that our small ports.

        • iSem

          Hi Anissa Sara:
          anna mush Zaelan ya “Amirra”, harram alleki:-)

        • Dawit

          Selam Sara,
          No you are not, you took the very responsibility your mad dog should be taking for the fall out these two people went thru and using excuses such as no war no peace as if Ethiopia hates the people of Eritrea or you bought into his argument, there is this grand plan by us to take over Assab by force. In the same breath, you dare to tell us about peace after clapping for his slogan. Peace is not some wishful thinking, it’s a working progress that need adults to sit down and talk. The lack of wisdom on your leader part is what got you to take this long road at the espy of your own kids, in some cases headaches for us, not us. Take ownership for once please, don’t think I’m angry, just had to say it.

    • Legacy

      Hi Sara,

      You wouldn’t rather prefer to crack those eggs for a yummy omelette breakfast this very morning ? 🙂

      • sara

        hello Legacy,
        there is even difference between an omelette and boiled eggs, even here i prefer the boiled than an omelette, i guess there is so much cultural differences that make us see things differently and definitely at the end Eritrean peace strategy will prevail.

        • Legacy

          Hi Sara,

          In all seriousness, you made a poignant point when you said , “Ethiopia having alternatives means less threat to eritrea.” which probably is the least underscored point when it comes to mapping the fate of Eritrea in the post IA world. The truth is that the port was the strongest rallying issue of the Derg regime. With this issue settled for once and for all , all Eritrea has to do is pickup the pieces and chart its course without having to constantly watch their back.

  • iSem

    Nitric:
    Do not lie, bring the facts where I said “I witnessed EPLF raping women”?
    Your problem is nothing sticks in ur brain because you have been raped in the military
    And do not get between elephants, as you are an ant you will be crashed

  • ‘Gheteb

    Abraham H : The Situation In Eritrea Is Not As You Are Depicting It

    Greetings All !!

    Though you keep harping on ad nauseam about PIA interview and you want it to be that of “dismal performance”, you have failed to look at it from a different perspective why PIA wanted to emphasize more is needed to be done by not giving a more rosier picture. He wanted to discourage COMPLACENCY not as you wanted us to believe that his assessment was that of “dismal record” but of a realistic one with more emphasis on what we have achieved is not good enough.

    Regarding the Hirgigo power plant here are two sources you may want to check. One was based on SFECO [1] report and another based on Africa Intelligence report [2] , both showing that the output capacity to increase from 84 MW to 132 MW. That means the power plant’s capacity to produce that much MWs. Remember these power is also not only for the cement factory but also for the Zera mining operations.

    Check these links.

    (1) https://www.tesfanews.net/sfeco-commissions-hirgigo-power-plant/

    (2) https://www.tesfanews.net/hirgigo-power-plant-to-supply-mines/

    Regarding the poverty index, even if Eritrea was to be included in the study and even if I was going to vouchsafe that Eritrea came out poorer than Ethiopia, Ethiopia will still be at the bottom, as in the THIRD poorest nation in the world. The irony of it all is that your Ethiopia has been boasting about its double digit economic growth with billions in aid money and unlike Eritrea not a sanctioned nation. My friend, I hate o break it to you this way. In such kind of comparison Eritrea wins hands down.

    You don’t make any sense at all in your defense of Ethiopia. If as you claimed that ” the wheels of emancipation have been set into motion through various infrastructure developments” is the case, then you are contradicting yourself when you said the following in the same sentence: “Poverty is still persistent in Ethiopia”. You seem like you want to have your cake and you want to eat it too. The fact that corruption and capital flight are so rampant in Ethiopia and crony capitalism is the order of the day, then most of Ethiopians will remain mired in poverty. Sadly, that is liability to your political ware of belittling and tarnishing Eritrea by talking highly of Ethiopia.

    You say that, ” The so-called huge financial burden on defense is a hoax, and the militarization of the Eritrean society is not for defense purposes, rather for enforcing of a terrorising police state”. You are saying that to maintain an armed forces that numbers between 200-300,000 comes cheap? Do the math and think how much it will cost to maintain such a sizeable military forces. In most of the reports about the Eritrean economy that I have read, most of them mention the military budget as an impediment to the growth of the Eritrean economy.

    You seem like you are utterly clueless how a small country surrounded by a behemoth with a population of 100 million people with powerful countries supporting its anti-Eritrean agenda will be able to defend itself without marshalling all its resources. That is what Eritrea has precisely done and here you are carping and caviling why Eritrea had to do what Eritrea got to do to defend itself and to assure its survival.

    Sure Eritreans are not rich and many a poor Eritrean lives in that country. Eritrea never boasted of a double digit economic growth nor is it a recipient of billions of dollars in foreign aid. The fact that there is no hunger or famine in Eritrea is a testament to the invalidity to all the falsehoods that you, your ilks and others talk about Eritrea. Remember that the Eritrean economy is growing and it’s revival is only a matter of time.

    Yeah 250 to 300 million cubic meter of water preserved in micro-dams, their impact on Eritrean agriculture and other sectors of the Eritrean economy is going to be huge. And, without the dams Eritrea’s food security would have been in far worse shape. But fortunately Eritrea had opted to take the self-reliance path and its now paying a wonderful dividend. BTW, how else do you collect that much water in the first place, anyways? Have you ever thought about that?

    The tinder box, the cauldron of ethnic conflict, the ticking time bomb that is Ethiopia is on the cusp of an impending implosion and I am sorry to remind you this: where will your Mederk find itself after the whole geo-political calculus of the Horn region changes for good? If I were you, I will raise this issue in your next meeting with the Mederk folks.

    • tes

      Selam Gurundog Gheteb,

      Forget now about the so called rosier whatever it is. Do you think DIA is visiting Era-Ero these days. I read at tesfanews that he is a project Chief Engineer in a dam under construction around Gahtelay.

      Era-ero is not that far from Ghahtelay. And most probably DIA drives through The Green Belt. Please tell him to visit them by spending some minutes. Era-Ero is about 23 km from Filfil, when you to the hill, there is the junction, in Debre Mear and has to take his left direction. It is just 23 km.

      His comrades, G-15 and other political prisoners are living in miser there. It could be a great help if he does justice to his comrades instead of wasting his presidential time supervising site projects.

      By the way, what happened to graduates of Civil Engineerign from EIT. I thought DIA had confidence on his own students -Sawa – EIT after dismantling the only existing University in Asmara. Every year there are around 40 Civil Engineering students graduating from EIT. Why is he sending them to teach high school? At least 1 out of these 40 graduates could have replaced his position.

      Do you think these new graduates are corrupted?

      Com’on, DIA could have given them a deliberate advice on how to manage projects legally and ethically, just like he is doing to your fortune family business owners.

      I forgot about your cousin: how is he doing now? Did he finish his MSc? Please say hello to him. I wish him good luck in the land of opportunity, USA.

      tes

      • iSem

        Hi Tes:
        Depending when Ghete’s cousin was admitted to Masters, it is very hard for a student to be accepted to a reputable University for grad studies in the USA after completing his undergrad in a nameless university run by military commander, a concentration camp for teenager, so Gheteb may not be telling truth.
        A university must graduate students for certain years, its curriculum must be accredited by somebody and if not it must have made a name for itself by graduating many students who are successful in their field. You cannot just erect brick and mortar, bring chalk and bb and some unqualified Indian for a cheap and call your dig a place for high learning

        • tes

          Selam iSem,

          I disagree with you here. Many of my students are already studying their Masters degree in Universities throughout the world. The existing Colleges are now recognized at University level under the umbrella of National Board for Higher Education Eritrea – NBHE. Therefore, there is no problem in the recognition. The problem is not therefore with his cousin but the privileges of his family business.

          I think we need to be fair to Gurungod Gheteb. He is an honest propagandista. Just he brought a wrong example.

          tes

          • iSem

            Hi Tes: But I do not DISAREE wih u:-)
            That is why I said depending when. So, if one graduated in the first 3 years when Mai Nefhi was established, would he be recognized?

          • tes

            Selam iSem,

            Yes he is. Norway sent a delegation to study on the status of these colleges. And the result was positive.

            iSem, nothing was changed in the curriculum. DIA just created havoc and disturbances. in the first year. When University Staff members were forced to go in their respective colleges, they went there with the University Curriculum. The one which was introduced by copying Texas model was overhauled. Curriculum revision continued under the then newly formed NBHE in line to UoA curriculum.

            The reshafling was just made by the dirty minded DIA as he hates University. He was ashamed actually. In 2008, almost all colleges reintroduced former UoA curriculum except coding and naming under a different header.

            I wish DIA listened Dr. Woldeab Yisaak and I wish Dr. Woldeab stayed away from politics. These two ego-centric people killed UoA. Pr. Tadesse is OK but very weak. he tried his best to keep UoA as mother universirty. he didn’t move his office and still staying there.

            I hope UoA will flourish again. I want to see it alive again. It was a great university producing liberal thinkers. PFDJ just hated us as were spoiled citizens according to his ideological views.

            And those newly colleges can be universities or School of Technologies. No problem with that.

            tes

          • Selamat tes,

            You are addressing an irredeemable pathological lying bought slave propagandist. But thank you for sharing the true standards of higher education in Eritrea and your constructive criticism base on your sound views and experience for the forum. The despicable fool will uncover another rock to crawl into and return with yet another clever and heinous method of misinformation in order to depress and make Eritreans feel hopeless.

            tSAtSE

          • tes

            Selam Solomon,

            Please wake-up brother. For how long are you going to be in a state of confusion: a confusion between justice and historical nostalgie. Wake-up brother.

            tes

          • Lamek

            Tes, I know a couple recent graduates with master’s in engineering. Very good students from Eritrea, but not sure where they studied.

        • iSEM,

          Lies pure lies. There have been in the past and currently are Eritreans at Cal Berkeley, Florida State, throughout the world that are pursuing Masters and Post Doc. But why would a despicable low life criminal like you be truthful. And they did their undergraduate in Eritrea.

          tSAtSE

          • iSem

            Tsatse:
            Low life is better than a lunacy. I am debating with Tes and he knows what I am talking about and I believe him

          • tes

            Selam iSem,

            Thank you Semere. When university of Asmara was ordered to close its door in 2002, DIA ignored Univesity of Asmara staff members and he hired 100% new staff to run the newly established colleges. What happened until 2006 is really all dirty and typical DIA Works. EIT was a military camp and the students were treated like soldiers.

            In 2006, UoA officially closed its doors, staffs were relocated and all resources divided among colleges. It was like 1991 EPLF leaving Nakfa and running to Asmara. Just a mess.

            When university staff members joined these colleges what they found was rule of the jungle. No recognition, no standardized work.

            The newly arrived UoA members had academic experiences. They were forced to change the whole system. Dr. TADESSE was assigned as official director of all colleges. This was in 2007. After that colleges started to restructur, reorganize and adapt UoA curriculum. I was then a new graduate assistant in my college working to improve my departement course content.

            In 2009, we started to teach using the newly introduced curriculum and almost all administration system was designed like that of UoA.

            EIT was lagging behind because of staff experience but had introduced major changes.

            Academically, they were OK. And Dr. Tadesse worked hard to restore recognition. EU was ok, China no problem -they don’t care, USA – they care on GRE exams.

            To join EU universities is not easy as they demand legal paper from GoE. Hence it is impossible to come Europe.

            To USA, if you score high GRE or TOEFL, it is very simple. Many Eritreans are therefore using this opportunity. They can take GRE or TOEFL in Eritrea no problemwith that. Once theygot the scores they need to get admision, they apply to any USA university. Once admitted, they flee.

            From Sudan or Ethiopia, they apply a visa. NO problem to get a passport in Sudan (paradox), just go the embassy of Eritrea and pay money, good sum of money. Finish.

            Today hundreds of Eritreans are going to USA through this process.

            And to get your student report, you need to be patient for three years back-home to do your national service and community service.

            I hope this will be helpful. On student competence level, of course students coming from rich families are always advantaged. Those from small towns, better outside Asmara, are of the lowest in number or have no resources to through all these processes that demand lots of energy, time and money. Those rich, always have the means. Poor remain poorer.

            Before, UoA had a balanced demography. Even poor students like me had equal opportunity to be competent enough for all possible opportunities. Now, you must either come from rich/educated family or from Deki Tegadelti – the privileged.

            Nitricc will get mad when I mention deki tegadelti – but that is the truth today in Eritrea. And the regime is giving opportunities for GRE and TOEFL because of these privileged children. Otherwise, they know.
            tes

            PS: Of course there are many things that can not be written here.

          • Selamat tes,

            “Now, you must either come from rich/educated family or from Deki Tegadelti – the privileged”

            War veterans the world over have earmarked benefits. Are you inserting this for the sake of sounding anti EPLF/PFDJ? The error in your statement is this. Today, the Tegadelti’s grand kids are college are approaching college age. Among them you will find quite not a small percentage of younger tegadelty’s children who are near completion of their undergraduate studies. Be confident in your abilities to lead and embolden young Eritreans to form alternative choice of government in Eritrea without needing to appease the established opposition system. Your are lacking in this category significantly.

            Trust me Eritreans know how rich the tegadelty are. On the one hand, the Yo Yo strings attached spinners tell us the tegadelty are leaving in droves because they did not get their due, and here you are stating they are rich with veterans of war benefits. “DediHri adgi zkhedes TraTT lemmede.” I understand and empathize with how much you have been hurt as you have said to me once. Lets be a little more rational going forward tes.

            And don’t be afraid to engage with me. You know very well my strong with integrity DNA.

            tSAtSE

          • tes

            Selam Solomon,

            I believe that freedom fighters deserve better treatment but not at the expense of the people. The people should honor them not the people be oppressed by them.

            What I saw in in Eritrea is a ruling and preveleged class emerging since 2001. I have seen every activity of Eritreans controlled by former tegadelti. If you are in doubt go to Senbel Complex -you will see the ruling class family.

            Go to Denden Club – you will see a different class of society.

            Go to kagnew, you will see a small camp with its its own community – community of tegadelti with privileged access to resources.

          • tes

            Selam Solomon,

            Please do not provoke me to say so many untold stories about these privileged ruling class of today’s Eritrea.

            I can tell you: more than 70% of those joing to colleges with a pass mark are either from rich people or from deki tegadelti.

            I was teaching these students and I know their background. I am not talking without evidences.

            The Proletariat were called to fight for their freedom. They fought and won. Then they turned themselves into a ruling class. Now we have another proletariat. You know Mrx Theory SElie – don’t pretend to be an emanicipated EPLFite. You know those theories and how they work against their own principles.

            tes

            PS: I have witnessed families evacuated from public houses by tegadelti in the streets of Asmara – sometimes two or three tegadelti fighting each other in front of the house on who will take the house. And those families – some of them lived for 40 or 50 years in these public houses by paying their rents on monthly bases without stop.

            – I have seen business centers in Keren evacuated by tegadelti from licenced owners from the rented public business centers. Some of them, devoted supporters of EPLF and PFDJ but were civilians throughout those periods. They didn’t get a warning – just evacuated within a day. And these business centers are now replaced by individual or group of tegadelti. I have seen it and everybody has seen it. It was done during day hours -not at night – just in the middle of the brightday.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Tes, No one can balive your story, sure, the likes Berhe and Semere may buy in to your story but no one with right mind will. the reason is, for any story to be believes then the credibility of the story teller crucial. Accordingly, since you have no credibility how can anyone believe you? Do you remember when you introduce yourself to this web-site, the first thing you posted was camouflage EPLF flag with Nazi’s Swastika. That action alone, just by itself told me who Tes and what his credibility’s are. So for a person who did the unthinkable to EPLF flag; what kind of credibility can he have to tell as aye witness stories? NONE!

          • iSem

            Nitricc:
            You are wrong, Tes introduced him self with an article called, “… Hardware Software…”
            The comment you are talking about is later, he did that and an artist called Dawit posted the PFDJ flag in flames, both were deleted. And I also criticized Tes and Dawit, not that cus I love the flag that IA created with no input form people, but since lots of died around the flag and also, it is not wise to burn a flag that your country is identified with even if you do not like it.
            Now stop lying or get your memory straightened

          • Nitricc

            Hi Semere; if that was my first article I seen from Tes for the first time —-to me–, am I wrong to say what I have said?

          • iSem

            Hi Nitricc:
            I corrected you by saying, he did not introduce himself with flag thing and I remember a few debates with you before that, so if it wa a mistake, here is your correction. You welcome.
            And the flag thing was not an article, it was a comment, was deleted and he was severely critisised for it by me. And it has nothing to do with the family story, which was true, so little sensitivity would go a long way, otherwise if that is what you remember, you are not lying

          • Haile S.

            Hi tes,
            Great insight into the state of higher education institutes of Er for those interested. When I visited the UofA in 2008 with an acquintance, it was desolate with few people here and there. A botanical or plant museum outside the main building was closed, not even properly labeled as such. A lab in an institute adjacent to the university had most of the reagents on the shelves dried etc. It was concerning. Now as per your assessment it appears going towards normalization. My question for you: how do you see the decentralization of the colleges potentially becoming independent universities, but far from eachother compared to having universities in one campus or in close proximity with different faculties (colleges)?
            Thanks

          • tes

            Selam Haile S.

            I can not say what happened to UoA was a decentralization process. It was a liquidation process or rather a dissolution of UoA as it was producing more liberal and much better equipped scholars. These graduates were not welcomed by DIA and PFDJ. UoA had a relatively autonomous administration until 2001 when student movement was ignited in challenge of the Ministry of Education call for summer works.

            DIA personally visited the UoA and got disappointed for the challenges he faced during the small meeting he did with student representatives and staff members. On the same day, he decided to destroy UoA. It was therefore hate based decision of DIA.

            Long before, UoA had a long strategic plan to decentralize its colleges and institutions. Dr. Woldeab had an excellent plan. It was a completed plan with much stronger and well equiped institutions. This plan is now shelved some where.

            What Professor Tadesse and his Co. did are just to go with the flow and try to minimize the damage of DIA in the higher education sector. In this, I give credit to Tadesse. Otherwise, it was not a normal decentralization process but a normalization of the liquidation process.

            tes

          • Haile S.

            Thank you tes,
            It is similar to what Mengistu in the early 80s attempted in decentralizing certain AAU faculties and colleges.
            Unfortunately, we are having a lot to say this is sad, that is sad. Hopefully a time where we say this is great that is great will come soon. It is great BTW that we are able to discuss these issues here at Awate.
            A bientot!

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Gheteb, the tesfanews kids have cheated you again:) The news about the alleged Hirgigo power plant expansion that you linked from tesfanews is false. They presented it as if it is already in place. I’ve found the same picture in the news in a Chinese website; the occasion of the picture was the factory acceptance test of the mentioned engines in a Chinese company in China. Today is monday, so I cannot link the website but if you want, you may google it by writing ” 12K60MC eritrea”, then choose the link with “QMD-News Center Successful Shop Trial of China…” dated 31. March 2016. For a closer look at the status of the Hirgigo plant, please refer to the DIA interview fro 27 January 2017, that will give a clear picture.
      እንታይ ደኣ ኮይንካ ኣብ ሕጂ በጺሕካ ዘይትኣምኖ ንጎይታኻ ኢሳይስ?

  • tes

    Dear All,

    These PFDJites are making so much noise these days. Their gurundog Gheteb is in his usual distorting business. Gheteb, how is your family business doing by the way? It is good to know that DIA is personally giving them legal and ethical edvices for their huge profit illegal business. No other man can better give them advice in Eritrea than DIA himself.

    Nitricc, why you are making so much noise today? It is Sunday boy. Simon Kaleab, one-liner, I think is back by changing to another nickname called michelda.

    What I observed in common among the PFDJites here is their male chauvinism character. They are making moderators a headache. They need to stop it I think. sara, where are you?

    Abi finish your coffee ceremony with sara as soon as possible. We need her badly to decode PFDJ mindset.

    On a serious note: @disqus_68fOAPUBc6:disqus (pay attention please), I sometimes collect my comments/writings and put them in my own personal blod. This blog is a a collection of my writings. It is like a notebook. You can find some of my comments hanging there.

    I think it will be good thing to take my comments about Assab and put in my blog here. EASE, hope you will find it something worth to re-read.

    tes

    tes

    • Amde

      Hi Tes,

      I don’t know why I didn’t before but thanks to your invitation I did today. It is great. I read again the touching story of your own family. I hope your family is doing better.

      (I was also hoping to see the other piece – your manifesto – there, perhaps you are still working on it?)

      Tes, one of the things I admire about you is how up front and open you are. With your heart.

      Do you try your hand at poetry? You might find it can help express your innermost feelings better.

      Please stay on this path. I hope to see many great things about you in the future.

      Amde

      • tes

        Selam Amde,

        If you remember Haile TG’s analogy: Heart and Mind. It was a great discussion. (I am missing this guy. Where is he by the way?). To bring heart and mind in one table is difficult. This type of harmony needs courage. Thanks to Awate University I am trying to be courageous – this much to simplify.

        And I know http://www.awate.com is all about this: Inform, Inspire, Embolden and Reconcile. I am guided by this motto.

        Back to family issue – My family are doing great. Just missing them again. Thank you.

        tes

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Gheteb, this is especially for you:)
    በል እስከ እንካ ርኣዮ እዚ ድንቂ ስራሕ ህንጻ ናይ ጊበ3 ሓጽቢ። ምናልባት ቅዱስ ቅንኢ እንተሓደረካ ኣይፍለጥን ‘ዩ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krNIIOV-adU

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Abraham H.,

      This is a special delivery courtesy of Professor Al Mariam. Read and see where this boondoggle is going to lead your Ethiopia. Remember all that glitter, including those white elephant projects, are not gold.

      http://almariam.com/2016/01/03/the-dam-nation-of-ethiopia-by-the-t-tplf/

    • sara

      Abraham dear,
      why do you think the ITALIANS are generous when it comes to Ethipia? could it be that what they couldn’t do it in 1930th do it now through such grand project financing/building/operating etc.
      I read some where during the Dergi era the Italian government gave Ethiopia a 600.000.000 dollar agricultural project but that project dissipated some how and Ethiopia was exposed to drought and the rest.
      what do you think?

      • Abraham H.

        Selam sara, this is not the Italians being generous, rather it is a business issue. The Gibe3 dam was financed 40% by the Ethio gov, and the rest by loans from Chinese banks. The Italian company here was the one that did the engineering and construction works. I don’t know about the 600 million dollar during the Derg, but I’m of the opinion the current Ethio gov is more committed to the economic prosperity of Ethiopia never seen before in the country’s history.

  • said

    Greetings,
    Sadly, that’s simply not the Eritrea that I see. Eritrea is not south Korea of Africa, But by far more of North Korea and Japan of Africa and much more advanced. Eritrean renaissance and modern enlightenment have already happened, very visible and supported with empirical data, only it is invisible for those who do want to see the visible and physical achievement. Eritrean that cares deeply for the country’s prosperity and stability, its current challenges could not be more different from what is going at awate respected panel. Eritrea for life crowned King IA is presently putting master plane for 21 centuries modern economy and building on aspiration of the national ethos of the Eritrean people to develop their country as a model for others, backward and failed nations to follow in terms to how revive and create fast moving economic, modern constitution, all encompassing representative democracy, pluralism, cohesion, modernity, and rule of law. and unlimited freedoms of expression and free association of all sort. And vibrant and free political opposition. An Envy and so-shiny record of human right. Zero political prisoner and full due process and rule of justice prevail above all. The ability of citizens and media to criticize government policies and officials with zero repercussion. The 5 Eritrean university considered world top class out of 10. Eritrean Renaissance is based 5th generation knowledge based economy and The dynamic and highly educated youth population with unlimited future hope and vision and limitless job opportunity is creating shortage and Eritrean embassy around world are issuing special to fill the gab and many from silicone valley are preferring and Eritrean silicone valley. With Zero income tax and zero taxation in all sort and they will receive citizenship upon arrival. All Eritrean diaspora have returned to their country with their families to be part of Eritrean renaissance and enjoy equitable economy and no one is left behind and all Eritrean refugee have return and fully compensated to their ancestral land.
    Building trust and solidarity between Eritrean s citizens and his majestic ruler are based as one family with on loving heart. And this is especially true when all of the population lives above the poverty line.no where poor Eritrean to be seeing. Eritrean Citizens have accomplished immense prosperity and the top half of 50 billionaire of Africa live in Asmara. With soiled financial secrecy and economic and political stability that surpassing Switzerland economic. Eritrean off shore banking rated AAA the highest. Eritrean are enjoying for three decades, Prosperity, Peace, stability and security, Eritrean feel valued and truly see a viable future for themselves and 100 generations to come that will last 1000 years surpassing any civilization ever be known to man kind other than king Solomon and his Agazain wife queen Saba.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Awatistas,
    What are the sticky points here:
    1) in the current Ethio Eritrean situation, Djibouti is ennjoying an econimic honeymoon. Good for her.
    2) The stalemet is hurting Ethiopia and Eritrea but much more Eritrea in comparison. The impact devastating on Asseb and the Afar communty.
    3) What is lost so far is huge, but some of it might have been lost forever due to the low of the economies of scale and trust gap.
    4) This is debatable: In some aspects, Ethiopia appears to me benefitting from the landlockedness as it is paying a lot of attention to its infrastructure development. Would Ethiopia care so much to materilize the modern state of the art RR for a bulk pick if it were not landlockdd? Would Ethiopia venture to develope its hydropower to replace strategic fuel import (huge strategic import good) if it were not landlocked?

    Persuation by destruction: What uncle Gheteb is playing a hypnotherapist, destruction through bringing unimportant stuff and helping lose sight on the most important issues, like how Eritrea under his living god (courtesy of Amde) is visibly losing the game and dying alive.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hayat Adem,

      As his wont, you man A.mde tried to divert the discussion about your Ethiopian Railway Line teetering on the bring of bankruptcy, by opening a new thread about “Post Isayas Eritrea” and all the fatuous blather about Ethio-Eritrean cooperation that is more FANTASY than REALITY.

      And now here you are BELLYACHING that your hobbyhorse subject about the re-annexation of Eritrea to your Ethiopia is not discussed enough and you are accusing me, as usual, of distracting this Forum from important issue. You Weyane lot embody what I call “accusing others of what one is guilty of” and you rob someone and then you end up accusing the victim of robbing you. I tell you that SHAME doesn’t exist in your and your Weyane ACTIVE dictionary.

      You also said earlier today:

      “I am not saying you don’t have to criticize bad investments but don’t be the proverbial donkey”.

      You said don’t be the PROVERBIAL DONKEY? I am pretty sure you don’t have the slightest idea what it means “to be like the proverbial donkey”. I am pretty sure you have picked it from “AG” and I guess he is as clueless as you and you both of you have an erroneous understanding about you.

      In Tigrigna there is about those who follow a donkey which aptly befits HA/ “AG” combined ignorance. If “AG” is the donkey you have surely learned how to BRAY.

      • Hayat Adem

        Gheteb,
        Proverbial donkey is an expression of a concept. Don’t take offence. But lets try to get along. I will give you a survey question, and please give me your honest answer from choice provided.
        Everythng being normal (peace, normalization etc)
        1) What would you like the relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia to look like?
        a- like that of US-Canada
        b- like that of Pakistan-India
        c- like that of Eritrea-Jamaica
        d- i am indifferent.
        2) Replace Ethiopia by Sudan, and go through the same choices and pick one.

        Thank you for cooperating.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hayat Adem,

          No, I am not taking any offense. The only thing I am pointing out here is that you GOT IT WRONG. Like you don’t know what it means. If you believe otherwise, prove me wrong.

          I am telling you are wrong and you better address that first before you start talking about something else.

          You say that, ” Proverbial donkey is an expression of a concept”. And what does that mean? Did you use it correctly here? If not, then you got to admit that you got it wrong instead of trying to sweep it under the rug and change the subject.

          • Hayat Adem

            Gheteb,
            You always have someing to bring from the parallel world. The donkey proverb has met its purpose and I am not interested to discuss proverbs. Now please to the more important matter, to the survey.

    • Amde

      Hi Hayat,

      I think Ethiopia developing its infrastructure would have happened anyway, whether landlocked or not. It may not be as forced to do the regional integration part of it. The hydropower focus is also a longstandng one starting from the HaileSellasie years – we all grew up learning about it. It is just that the end of the domestic wars, and non-western funding (mostly Chinese) availability made it possible to execute.

      I think Asseb’s potential importance to Ethiopia is steadily (daily) being eroded, so I doubt very much it will ever see anything more than 20% of Ethio business. Massawa still has potential to be the port to service the north. We will see.

      Personally, I don’t think it is that difficult for Eritrea to get plugged into this infrastructure and commercial web. it will take political will, time and money. It is funny that the least costliest of the three – political will – ends up being the most difficult.

      Amde

      • Hayat Adem

        Amde,
        Interesting point! While Abi is sending me to Gheteb for the belly thing, I propose sending Gheteb to you to save us from his word crowd and help him learn how to say complex views beautifully and economically. What do u say?

        • Amde

          Hi Hayat,

          Every village has it idiots. Gheteb is ours. We need the role filled by him.

          Amde

          • Hayat Adem

            Oh Amde,
            Now you parachuted me into an involuntary belly laughing. Thank you.

      • Selamat Amde,

        “I think Asseb’s potential importance to Ethiopia is steadily (daily) being eroded, so I doubt very much it will ever see anything more than 20% of Ethio business. Massawa still has potential to be the port to service the north. We will see.”

        This is incorrect. You are right that when you say the gains from the self induced use by Ethiopia of the Eritrea’s ports has been regional integration. And the same can be said of the loss of opportunities in Ethiopia for Eritrea human resources has been to for Eritreans exploring all African Nations and apply their know how and skills. You can find Educated Eritreans and entrepreneurs in African countries like Uganda, Angola, Nigeria, Jubba, the Congo, Nigeria, South Africa etc…

        There is a lot more infrastructure for Ethiopians to develop than there is for Eritreans. Larger population and a lot larger Area. Whereas Eritrea’s economy can be sustained with micro dams, Ethiopia’s necessitates larger dams longer roads and bullet train rail roads. This is the main difference. And Eritrea’s regional integration with it’s northern neighbors is similarly forced by the “no peace no war.”

        As far as the erosion of the importance of the Port of Asseb, when the political and egotistical political power rivalry subsides and for Eritrean and Ethiopian Business men and women and developers are afforded the conducive environment, they will easily reverse its value to leap frog all the ports as the top go to sea outlet. Why? the inevitable manufacturing and commodities explosion, anticipated by these current heavy investments in Ethiopia, will demand not only a more efficient distribution and import of materials, but also COST REDUCTION.

        I would say “I think Asseb’s importance to Ethiopia at this moment is not of utmost or high importance.” Which is good. Then, Asebb by with EASE by EASE change of policy long term ambitions sawing of the seed, should be weighed by a much more Gains producing and certainly the elimination of a potential catastrophic Losses. Suggestion, for the Ethiopian forecasters, to run their modeling with honest data of various scenarios.
        I hope you do see some bias on your part as well as State of Eritrea’s security concerns Amde.

        tSAtSE

        • Amde

          Selam TsaTse,

          Asseb’s problem is not ego or political rivalry. It is the headstart Djibouti and Tadjoura have had in terms of infrastructure and connections. I don’t know just how much of a demand there will be for yet another large port between Djibouti, Tadjourah and Assab. If you look at the maps, especially once the Tadjourah line is done, Assab becomes really easy to connect to from the Ethiopian side. But it will have to be competitive in price and service, which is going to take quite a bit of time and investment.

          Massawa does not have a natural competitor yet.

          There is definitely a lot of need for Ethiopian infrastructure. These are definitely opportunities for Eritrean specialists. Just keep in mind that Ethiopia has been developing a lot of internal capability as well. Almost all the government universities have full fledged Engineering colleges, and are producing engineers by the thousands now. To be honest there is a glut now. In any case, it is government policy that any outside firm that has major infrastructure contract must be heavily involved in helping the Ethiopianization project for the next phases. Ethiopian Railway Corp is claiming it has the capability to execute the next phase of the Addis light rail using completely Ethiopian capabilities. It could be hype, but there are a lot of people with railway engineering degrees and real world exposure on actual projects.

          In any case, i am one of those – the more the merrier – types. There is opportunity but it needs the political resolution of the no-peace-no-war situation. Perhaps my bias is thinking that the resolution of this situation lies with Asmara. We are kinda in a modular situation. When and if there is resolution of the outstanding issues, integration can happen fairly quickly.

          I am curious TsaTse. Have you ever been in Ethiopia? Even when we were one country?

          Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            Where is Paul these days?
            Do you think Djibouti can jeopardize the use of Assab in the future even if Eth and Ert normalize their relationship ? Do you think it is financially feasible to spend millions of dollars of borrowed money if the market share of the port is limited to 20%? At what capacity should this port must operate to fulfill the 20% demand?

          • Selamat Gashe Abi,

            Paul Fukuyama and Captain Saay7 are conducting interviews on Channel Nickelodeon- Nick at Night- on the topic of building the Road to Carmen Sandiego.

            tSAtSE

          • Selamat Amde,

            You make a good point there with regards to the problem of Asseb being the head start of the Port of Djibouti. However as the economy of the region and interior Africa grows, lead by the Ethiopian economy, demand for larger port capacity or developing the adjacent Port of Asseb is also likely.

            But I will put the following compromising outlook as to how the port of Asseb could be utilized, which addresses the security concerns the both of us have pointed to. With economic growth of Ethiopia and Eritrea (as there are sectors not readily visible at the moment) an amicable mutually beneficial to both states security of a joint Naval and Air Force port could be what Asseb is destined for. It may even include Djibouti. The French Forces could be relieved of their responsibility to protect Djibouti and France could save its Francs.
            .
            There are Two diametrically opposite ways to reach this end goal of good intent, that both you and I, Eritreans and Ethiopians can utilize. One is adversarial and hostile control of one state over the other OR investing in creative means to develop cooperation starting in these simmered yet still hostile attitudes towards another and gradually eroding and eradicating the futile rivalry totally.

            The blessings in disguise in spite of the hardships of the recent history we have enumerated above. We need to come to an agreement of the hindrances that are stifling this inevitable future.
            And it the policy change of Ethiopian Government towards the State of Eritrea at this pivotal juncture should be our focus, Port of Asseb slow/EASE encroachment with strategies of the EASE could be as detrimental and even futile as the attitudes of past Ethiopian regime that wreaked havoc on Eritreans and Ethiopians, the brutal Mengistu Hailemariam and his DERG.

            I will present my output from my several modeling forecasts, again utilizing the Athenian General Thucydides on the Athens V Sparta rivalry. My dear Polynesian from Easter Island Amde, it is not by accident that we have discovered our DNA match several Months ago of this. I believe it is for the purpose of this very important discussion we shall have.

            No is the answer to your last question. I left the HUT of my birth on Easter Eve 40 years ago exactly. Though I have not ever had the chance to travel to Ethiopia, I will plan to say Enquan Aderesachu on Fasica 2018-EnshAlaha.

            Regards Weapon X Amde the Pillar and stay tuned.

            tSAtSE

          • Dawit

            The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Nothing you have mentioned here are supported by facts but simple ideology. If you can, listen to other people instead of defending a leader that can never take you anywhere. If your end game is for Ethiopia to blink somehow and build joint Naval and Air Force in Assab with an arrogant leader suffering from PTSD; you don’t know us at all. If you even understand design, look at what Berbera port will become. You will see where the only buyers of Assab are heading, it’s not North, have the camels drink from it.

          • Selamat Dawit,

            Allow me to do a slight correction: “To Dawit, Nothing you have mentioned here are supported facts…” The facts are plenty throughout the interview article by SJG and all the discussants. And these facts everyone is supplying and taking their respective biased positions to repeat the Yo Yo shouting matches are either based on destructive ideology or TOTALLY LACKING A SOUND IDEOLOGY. I see your points though, and please stay tuned for more facts and data than you can handle. The Gurgurr AAkaat Ideology will captivate you. It spins always FREE from the STRING, unlike the Yo Yo spin.
            And you are wrong to state “You don’t know us.” In the immortal words of the “an arrogant leader suffering fom PTSD” that is in fact DAWIT’s LEADER! “Ab jubakha Hizkayo tSinaH.” And the ANT adds “Kuntal beliEka temeles!” youngster!

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Tsatse,

            “I will present my output from my several modeling forecasts, again utilizing the Athenian General Thucydides on the Athens V Sparta rivalry. ”

            I don’t think this comparison is accurate to our situation at all.

            The closest I can think is between people of Eritrea and the of Tigray. The rest of Ethiopia has no impact of this conflict that can affect them directly.

            Eritrea is bleeding, its population is emptying at alarming rate.

            Nothing of this sort is happening in Tigray, because of their association with the ruling government, they have access to resources and are able to divert trade with the rest of the country. They don’t have goxkol300 thousands army securing their boarders and their young enslaved.

            If you care about Eritrea, you start by admitting this fact and then speak the truth and the real reason why. Our biggest threat and enemy is IA and please call him out for what he is and what he is doing to our people and our country.

            We don’t have to trade with Ethiopia if they don’t want. Other than some economic downturn nothing will happen and I am sure we can find alternatives, just like they have if we left our people alone.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Berhe Y,

            ” Our biggest threat and enemy is IA and please call him out for what he is and what he is doing to our people and our country.” This is like when the preachers in a baptism ceremony say to you “Do you renounce the devil?” and you say “Yes I renounce the devil.” And then they tell you to spit on the devil with sound effect in the direction of the ground. You repeat Three times….

            I am sorry Berhe Y, but I can not admit what is not the truth. IA has not been and is not now our biggest problem. I personally believe he is a problem, a significant one at that for my view of what an ideal society/country should be. I have voiced my opposition since before Eritrea’s Independence on what Eritrea should and will become. I haven’t stop since. There is no love lost from the PFDJ/GoE supporters including from the closest of my kin towards me. And I have been ever since pointing to the biggest and current liabilities of Eritreans including the opposition with every mutation they have gone through. ….. ….. ….

            Our biggest problems which is also Ethiopia’s biggest problems, I believe, has erroneously been defined and redefined with every change of circumstance to benefit the very few who have found great fortune in keeping it alive and seem real with religious fanaticism.

            You will read my coherent and convincing definition of what Eritrea’s problems from biggest to smallest. And yes IA and GOSE are smack in the middle of this range’s extreme end points.

            Thanks for your inquiry and interest that indicates to me you are on highly tuned as are all of us these days.

            tSAtSE

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam Tsa Tse,

          I think you have laid to waste this dolt’s baselessly biased analysis that is based more on fantasy than reality. Amde thinks that because he thought about something it means that he can sell it through some specious arguments. As you have wonderfully demonstrated, his wishy-washy and stale analysis does even pass a cursory inspection let alone to survive a rigorous scrutiny.

          Case in point, look at how much he was bloviating about the Djibouti and Tadjourah without even mentioning the fate of his Weyane projects in the Afar region of Ethiopia. He has so far said nary a peep about the utter failure of these projects which was primarily because of the mammoth COST of transporting potash to the two sea out lets, namely Djibouti and Tadjourah.

          A good example is of this exorbitant COST of transportation and how that led for that very project to go belly up is the case of Allana Potash/ICL. Though the Ethiopian government claimed it was about tax evasion, the root cause for this project to go caput is definitely COST, as in cost in transporting the potash to those distant sea outlets.

          Here is the link to the story:

          http://www.thereporterethiopia.com/content/icl-terminates-potash-project-ethiopia-due-controversial-tax-claim

          And, here in the article you will find the pictorial comparisons of the distance between an Eritrean sea outlet to that of Djibouti.

          https://www.tesfanews.net/ethiopia-accuses-allana-potash-tax-evasion/

          I am telling you that the whole tall tales that this Amde guy yarns is not based on reality and is, of course, utterly implausible.

          • tes

            Selam Gurundog Gheteb,

            I don’t know if you and the PFDJ camp can benefit by talking all the time about the failures of Ethiopian projects. Failure is part and parcel of success. Ethiopia is doing great and with time they are perfecting their work.

            Ethiopia is home of more than 100 million people. And after the brutal dictator has left, it is developing at high speed. No matter how you think they are failing, they are working hard to elevate life standard of their own people.

            Questions:

            1. Yemane Monkey used to say, “Natural Resource can be a curse” – somethign like that when he was teaching us in the cadre school. And indeed it is a curse.

            2. Have you ever contacted DIA, as he is an instructor of your family in the area of conducting business legally and ethically, if he applies it in the Mining Sector of Bisha and Zara?

            3. Have you asked DIA why Massawa International Airport is non-functional till today?

            4. Have you asked DIA why Eritrean Airlines failed to operate in the International flighst?

            Your responses(don’t worry about being honest) are highly appreciated.

            tes

          • Selamat tes,

            Gheteb is not and I repeat NOT part of PFDJ. Do your calculation again. Do you consider tSAtSE part of the PFDJ? Do you consider MS part of the PFDJ?

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Dear tSAtSe,

            How do you know he is not part of PFDJ?

            Please do NOT associate MS and Gheteb in the same way.

            He is a sellout, an evil propagandist knows exactly what he is doing and lies on everything he writes.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Aya Berhe Y,

            My association of Gheteb with MS is to jog tes’s “inexplicable” suspicion and total aversion towards MS until very recently. Even Captain Frmajo has stated how very perplexed he is by tes’ attitude towards MS and Lingo, MC of the EPLF of long ago, in the conversations that ensued following a link of the interview of Saay7 by Lingo. For the rational, however, we have can look in tes’s debut featured article that was upgraded from a comment. Thanks for asking. As it now provides me to elaborate and for tes to relax his blind spot obsession. As I empathize fully and can relate with how he feels. Ask iSEM how I can relate with tes’ peronal story featured long ago. A further hint would be Kareem Abdul Jabar’s novel Mycroft Holmes (Brother of Sherlock Holmes, hence the magnifying glass.) But I digress from your primary question.

            I know Gheteb is NOT as sellout because of his principled stance to never sell out the ideals of Eritrea’s Revolution for INDEPENDENCE. Though betrayed by numerous sellouts time and again he was steadfast and stood firm at his post for numerous years. It is unfortunate many here are by passing hie valid arguments and repeat the same old isolate and frustrate strategy in order to be left unhindered to pursue their blind march towards will certainly be a cataclysmic catastrophic tragic end for themselves AND OUR ERITREAN NATION!

            Rest assured Berhe Y, the real sellouts will be exposed fully in due time that is very near. But first, nay Habar guEzonann tsaErinann yAAbi. I look forward to tes’ argumentation against the Ethnic Federalism he has promised to grace us with.

            Regards,

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Tsatse,

            MS stance was to defend the legacy of EPLF that he paid dearly, he never defended PFDJ and the outlaw dictator.
            Even if he conflicted with others he has the guts to say sorry. That is character, that’s integrity, this other person has none, he sold his soul.

            “I know Gheteb is NOT as sellout because of his principled stance to never sell out the ideals of Eritrea’s Revolution for INDEPENDENCE.”

            There is NEVER a bigger sellout than IA right now, and Gheteb is second.

            Tell me one single individual against ERITREAN independence.

            Please know the difference between Eritrea and PFDJ.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Berhe Y,

            “MS stance was to defend the legacy of EPLF that he paid dearly, he never defended PFDJ and the outlaw dictator.”

            You could be right, but many have read him as though he has been and subjugated him to excruciating scrutiny as being heretic to the opposition’s cause. Only recently, he found the perfect tuning to his single string that is pleasing to their ears as they have been responding with standing ovations and accolades.

            The same will be said of Gheteb I am sure. For he has not found it necessary as of yet to have sugar coat truth and spoon feed Eritreans of many of historical facts that are true. I read him not as defending the PFDJ or IA, but thus far testifying to the conditions in Eritrea as he sees it. I agree he intentionally adds very hard to swallow pills to flush out the “know better” folks and show their true colors. Also to defend the legacy of EPLF means to assure its physical longevity by leaving very visible foundations that benefits the Eritrean People. The extremists want the absolute wipe out of this valuable legacy. Led by the clever and subtle pokers of the peoples open sore wounds as exhibited in the discussions of Dawit Mesfin’s Nakfa recent article.

            Gheteb is defending even a greater than EPLF Eritrean legacy. An Eritrean legacy of HARAKA.and lots more…..

            Trust me Berhe Y, your emotions have been bamboozled to identify your protectors as the SheyTans with constant repetitions of the same mantra into your ears. I am familiar with Ghetebs arguments more than my own, and so are the MS and a great many of the Eritrean Veterans.

            In due time you will find clarity, Your contribution to our discussions lately have been very encouraging to me, as they have been free from the Yo Yo string.

            tSAtSE

          • Abraham H.

            tsatse, “nay Habar guEzonann tsaErinann yAAbi”, you’re funny, man:)

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            I think you are trying to convert a sellout to go after another sellout. This people change their colors/minds everyday/even every second of the day. I think you are very honest to think
            Solomon/Tsatse is not a pfdj. The fact is he is a lost soul and he can never be your comrade in fighting the obvious criminals. I don’t think he can be any different than Gheteb, Nitricc, KBT or other diehard supporters of the mafia regime.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Thomas,

            I am not trying to convert anybody…but like everyone else it pains me to see Eritrean and it’s people destroyed by the gangs of PFDJ….

            I know a lot of people who are die hard supporters of the regime (including my own family members), they do NOT do it because they have some gain…on the other hand, they invested a lot and the have lots of money and time …if one thing IA is good at is, how to skim money from Eritreans….and never to be asked again…bonds, housing projects, 2%, meKete this, deki suwat, deki tegadelti..fund raising this, fund raising that..all money collected but no body ever knows or asks where it is, to what purpose, what was build…no accounting …people like me are actually, other than the emotional torture, the PFDJ do not take any advantage…ZERO..we knew them long time ago,….

            The problem I think is, they have believed that Eritrea without Isayas is no more…it’s like an egg shell, he is the only one that can protect…..but there is no further from truth…and they are dreamers…they think he can deliver peaceful Eritrea when he defeats his enemy “weyane” or “Ethiopia disintegrate” some day down the road….they even believe his is god that he can never get sick…..or worst of all DIE….leaving the country in taters ….and bleak feature…

            it’s really a sad way to live and spend your life…(the only life one has…a small short few productive years..)….

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Selam Berhe,

            What you wrote above is what I get to witness and I can say we have lots of misinformed and intentionally chosen so people falling for PFDJ and they like singing the Ethiopia this and wayane that song all over and over……….. The way were heading, I can only see the bleak future surrounding the nation we belong and the people we love most. It is so sad for some are not seeing were we are heading as a nation.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Berhe Y, you said “The problem I think is, they have believed that Eritrea without Isayas is no more…”. I think at the core of the problem of the pfdj folks is this ignorant and unbelievably stupid belief that Isayas is the saviour of Eritrea; how could one equate the fate of a nation of more than 6 million people to one person? This is something beyond madness, I lack the words to describe. At least if Isayas was doing something good to the country, one may give him some benefit of doubt, but when his records of performance are so glaringly abysmal, to defend him no matter at any cost to the country is out of this world. Some pfdj supporters may be doing it out of ignorance and temporary benefits, but I’m quite sure the educated people like Gheteb are doing it on purpose, they’ve an axe to grind against the Eritrean people.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abraham H.

            I agree to everything you said. I agree people like Gheteb are doing it on purpose, that’s why I call him evil. Actually I have never seen anything like this guy in the past 10 years..those that were, the like of Sophia Tesfamariam, Ghidewon Abay, I haven’t heard much from them lately, except in their seminars talking to them selves.

            My believe is that, out of 100 people, I think there may be 2 (I mean at the most) who are like him and may be 5 who are confused, and 3 just selfish and want to be in good books and get along, ..so I would say 10 percent…but the rest know what’s going on…and they are either silently or loudly are opposition.

            I mean look at his website, for the so many people who come and go, how many really have like him…Semere T. Nitricc, Gheteb and others who just pop now and then..who shout day and night EEBC ruling etc..

            I can tell you in my family and circle of friends,….it’s 99% opposition…

            Berhe

          • tes

            Selam GitSatSe,

            Gheteb is PFDJ number one. I have never seen a typical PFDJ propagandista like him. Take note on this.

            About you: I am sorry to say this but you are a confused EPLFite. You are trying your best in assuming EPLF is still alive.

            Not believing what happened to EPLF is killing you dear Solomon. Wake-up. You are very honest but living in a confused world. Wake up my beloved brother.

            I am sorry to say this bu I have to say it. We are in 2017 not 1987.

            tes

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            Do you remember Pharmacy major Ethiopian Million on Minnesota and Bailey? His friend Berhanu with Afro, had a stunned look first and the after the two consecutive A-GSU presentation he gained clarity of “Recognition of body parts and then the whole” and was humbled as well as relaxed his conditioned fears. The Burkina Faso and other African graduate students threw numerous Jumbo Sana Shindigs, and I would run into him…

            Amde is a lot like young Zerihun, my Ping-Pong prodigy. After he returned from a year leave of absence in order to take care of his Ethiopian Navy Brother in Yemen due to EPLF’s Fenkil in Massawa, we have spent Months discussing one on one this specific concern Amde is hindered by. At first sight outside of Capen Hall, after her returned from NYC, he attempted to sneak past in order to avoid the awkwardness of his now highly politicized state of mind. I would not let him. I chased him and got on the Blue Bird from AMHERST bus. We sat at Mike’s Hoagies for several hours and came into an agreement. I even offered to help/assist him write his then newly formed Ethiopian Group’s charter. despite his hesitation to accept fully Eritrea’s Independence. Why, because we were inspeparable two brothers from the moment I invited him to Minnesota Avenue when I first saw him on Blue Bird as a Freshman. Introduced him to his fellow Ethiopian upper class students ….. And yes I had a convincing argument that he full accepted with regards to Eritrea……
            From Blue Bird of then these days I am on The Blue Island Solution state of mind. Hippo Fanti Ghana, Amde, MS, Saay7 and Abi — The FAB5 will deliver the Gurguur. As my approach is different from the Best Sixth Man of the Bench that is Gheteb. And Amde will see the necessity of the Detroit Pistons from Michigan Wolverine State that is Gheteb despite the BAD BOYS style of play.

            Thanks for the links. I am not sure if I am ready for tesfanewsdotnet… it rubs me wrong, as does iSEM who is a lot like “Keshi tSeAAzega” the Gold Digger, as well as being influenced by your Cuz the Captains term of endearment “The Kiddie Channel.” (and he is moonlighting on Nick at nights now) But I will read both links and gain from the insight. Thanks

            tSAtSE

  • Ismail AA

    Selam all,

    Sorry! This is out side the relevant thread. I just remembered our brother Kokob Selam. We have missed him a bit long in this forum. Any news about him?.
    Regards

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selma Ismail,

      Thank you for reminding us. I hope AOsman will come up with good news when he read you note. I tried to reach him through his FB, but to no avail.

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Aman,
        Thank you as always. He just happened to come to my mind and I wanted to know.
        Regards.

        • Abi

          Hi Ismail
          I miss Kokobe every time I use Geez.
          I hope he is feeling better.

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi Ismail,
      What bothers me a lot is if there was anything we could do and we didn’ t for him. we are a large awate community and i wish we could do somethiing for him to support.

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas,

    Since we are talking Assab, what would the group feel about a post-Isayyas Ethio-Eritrea arrangement on this issue? Granted, we are all not specialists, many of us couldn’t tell a beach from a harbor, or a container terminal from a bulk one. But what do you think?

    • Abi

      Amdachin
      You have not been paying attention to the Meles interview. Please read it again with a fresh mind. I pay for your coffee.
      Who is better positioned to answer your question than him?
      Ato Saleh raised the same issue with MZ.
      Pay attention please.

      • Amde

        Abiti,

        Are we quoting R Kelly in reverse now? haha..

        Your body is telling you nooooo, but your mind – your miiiinnnnddd is telling you yesssss..

    • Dear Amde,

      It really boils down to the sort of government that is going to follow after dia. I am afraid that it will be a mubarak – sisi type of government, and nothing is going to change. Do not expect a radical change as long as this generation of eritrean rulers are still around. If the opposition were within the country, it is possible to expect a radical change. As things are today, with the players on both sides of the field being the same people, and their ego running so high, dia’s demise is not going to be followed by a tangible policy change, surely not towards ethiopia.

      • Ismail AA

        Hi Horizon,

        I wouldn’t be pessimistic to that extent. As I tried to insinuate in a posting just a few minutes ago, the Eritreans should be extended solidarity from their neighbors to pass through the transition from despotism to fair governance system. Not letting the situation transit to chaos as those we have been witnessing in some countries of the region would be in the best interest of peoples of other nations.
        Put briefly, then countries who would invest in helping the Eritrean people regain their freedom and build a fair and peaceful system of rule would return to them as dividends of peace that would generate economic interaction and integration.

        Regards

        • Dear Ismail AA,

          What you are saying is right. Nevertheless, before friends and neighbors, the eritrean opposition and the eritrean people should be in the forefront as the #1 stakeholders. Of course, there is no reason for pessimism, but up to now this power is not yet in motion to bring change. For example, I do not know if the opposition has supporters within the eritrean society and the eritrean armed forces back home. This is very important.
          Regards.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Horizon,
            You are perfectly right. What I was trying to allude to was that like any people facing the predicament of breaking the chains of bondage, do need solidarity from freedom loving peoples be they neighbors of members of the greater humanity. My point was about long term future of the Horn people though I am sure you concur with me that genuine help of our neighbors to Eritreans at the present is to the benefit of both peoples.
            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Hi Ismail AA,
            I agree with you. I may not be addressing the original question directly, but would add in particular to the two countries; the coming leaders* of Eritrea and that of Ethiopia should interrogate themselves where did we miss it, a true self interrogation not the one that tends to attribute all faults on the other. The unity of each country within themselves should not be dependent on the disunity of the other. They have to find the uniting enemy elsewhere, in the economy area; and again without instrumentalizing this common enemy.
            *I put it that way to be in conformity with the question; otherwise the best peace is when done between the best enemies to avoid leaving traces. For this to happen, it needs an EXTRAORDINARY courage whose shadow we don’t see, perhaps beyond the horizon (this is pure wax, no gold inside).

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hails S,

            “The best peace is when done between the best enemy”. Is this really possible? Is there any historical precedence to it though it looks impractical in politics with all the bruises shinning? Can you elaborate and educate us

          • Haile S.

            Hi Amanuel,
            Great question to which I may not present great examples, since I was not thinking of specific examples when saying that. I said that considering how these 2 fronts came to power, how they succeeded in controlling power in their respective countries and the uniqueness of their relationship and their fall/divorce. In fact what I had in mind was the word “ቋረኛ” (Quaregna). In the Abyssinian culture the accuser and the defendant use to walk chained until they reach where justice is. Please assign which one is which as you wish. I see them both as the accused and the defendant chained together incapable of replacing the chain that joins them with a real peace, un Paix des Braves. A real Paix des Braves is possible with extraordinary effort. Given the history of both countries and people, I believe lack of this will leave traces that could be damaging to both or will take long time to heal.
            Your question also assumes that to have a lasting peace one of the belligerents have to be removed or personalities cease to exist (correct me if I am wrong). But not all peace came up that way. Well that is the premise of the original question in the first place and in that case I expressed my wish in my previous comment. What is complicating the Eritrean case is the intransigency of the leadership and the suffering of Eritreans as the result and all the unknown of our constituted opposition group that doesn’t give any visibility to the Eritrean people as to their future. I am not preaching PFDJ to stay at the helm of power, but I am dreaming a healing process that starts with it. The biggest mistake EPLF did is excluding its opposition and hopefully it starts by doing that to correct it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Haile S.,

            “In the Abyssinian culture the accuser and the defendant use to walk chained until they reach where justice is.” My man, I always learn something from your comment. I have never seen and never heard the accuser and the defendant chained together walking to the court. Was such court proceeding during the Haileselassie era or way before it? However, in the Ethio-Eritrean case, with the current leaders, I don’t expect “Real Paix des Braves” until they start to talk each other in a round table. The current Eritrean regime adamantly refused to sit with their counterpart to bring the “peace of the braves.” Only braves can bring peace between the two people. The current Eritrean regime knows it well that it’s interest can’t be secured during peace time.Therefore, this option is unrealistic and impractical from the Eritrean side. From my point of view the second option is the only realistic to our circumstances.

            regards

          • Saleh Johar

            Hello Emma,

            Until Abi explains it with a qnie, let me ad another Abyssinian tradition: when a crime happens, the chief would intoxicate a a child, who, under the influence of some narcotics, would smell the crowd like a police dog in an airport, and point hi finger at the criminal. The Abyssinian version of Inspector Clouseau, from Abi’s ancestral village, would arrest the person who could be innocent. Unfortunately, the child (known as Lieba Shaay) has identified him. Bad luck.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Amanuel,
            In a country where there were no police, no prison, courthouse and where judgement was rendered wherever the king or a nobility happens to camp that is how it happened. The only prison was Wehni for the brothers of the king. In reality it happened like this: If it was of serious crime like lose of life, the accused is chained to a trusted man from the area or villages who takes the responsibility of keeping and presenting him to the where the judgement takes place. If it is of a lesser crime the accused and the plaintiff himself are tied together by their nexela (ነጸላ, ነጠላ) so that accused will not try to escape as he risks leaving his ነጸላ with the plaintiff. I suspect such practice existed till the early period of HSI until the coming of police, prison and courthouse.
            As to the paix des braves, I agree with you it doesn’t look to be practical until both have genuine approach to each other or until the Eritrean side gets convinced the ethiopian proposal is genuine.

          • Abi

            Gashye
            አንዴ ያየኸውን አትረሳም

            አገር ተሰብስቦ አውጫጭኝ እያለ
            ሌባሻይ ተብሎ ሀይሌ ከተፍ አለ
            እያነፈነፈ በሰልካካ አፍንጫው
            ሌባውን ፈልፍሎ ፈንቅሎ አወጣው
            ለጨቅላው ሀይሌ ምስጋና አነሰው !
            ኧረ እናንተ ሰዎች ስንት ዓመት ሞላው?

          • Haile S.

            Hi Abi,

            ያየሁት ኣይደል የሰማሁት
            ባይኔና በጣቴ የዳሰስኩት

            ኣረግ ጀታው ወልደባ ነው አንዴ የተማሩት? ከአርስዎ በግጥም ተወዳድሬ ኣልወጣውም።

        • blink

          Dear ismael
          What do you dream after Dictator issiass? Do you dream ethnic federal government or a secular state ? If you wish Ethnic how do you set the map ?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi blink,
            Can’t a federal state be secular? Are the two mutually exclusive?

      • Legacy

        Hi Horizon,

        These days, if you happen to follow political discussions on most Western media outlets, you find that most opinion makers are very cautious when forecasting the likely outcomes of any future events. You often hear them qualifying their statements to the effect : ” Oh, don’t ask me to predict after what happen in so and so.” Of course, they are paying deference to the unpredictable nature of politics these days. So, I wonder why the resignation to the ‘same old same” prediction when it comes to our region?

        You can’t imagine a scenario where an issue arises that is so detrimental to the survival of their regime that they find it in their best interest to make amends ?

        • Hi Legacy,
          It is true that it is not easy to predict the future, but sometimes it is possible to make a logical guess based on facts on the ground. Some of the factors that are there that can help us to draw a conclusion are, a regime that has shown that it is a sworn enemy of ethiopia, has created a very negative image of ethiopia in the eritrean psyche, understands as a defeat any sort of negotiations and compromise, sees no internal force that can put its power under threat, and it has put at a lower level its bar of survival, and the people are unable either to complain about or revolt against it. The only threat it may face is from ethiopia, and this depends on whether it is ready to provoke it or not. If the regime makes the mistake of provoking ethiopia again, there is a possibility that ethiopia may take measures to find a permanent solution, in which case there may not be dia/pfdj anymore in the eritrean political spectrum. Otherwise, ethiopia will never commit herself.
          The regime is not the type that makes amends, but a regime that is ready to play it all, win or lose, because it sees no pressure from inside the country and the danger from outside depends on the move it makes. Moreover, the regime has compromised its relations with the people that far from power it may not feel safe, and it may like to cling to power.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horzon; I go a question why are worried so much about Eritrea and the Eritrean government? Don’t you think you more problems in your country to attend to? Does not bother you when your government asked to fight corruption; your prime minster came out saying if you know one just report to us. then he came out in his last parliament meeting, he stated that 100 million was lost due to Killil leaders but i am not going to tell you who and what Killil it is. is there more embarrassing that this? And you have the nerve to talk about Eritrea? come-on man!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Nitricc,

            You said: “Don’t you think you more problems in your country to attend to?”

            That is a question they are too shy to answer. Why? Because they are [low grade] cadres on an assignment.

          • Hi Nitricc,
            I do not know the case, nevertheless, if the case is under investigation, should he have disclosed the information before it is complete? Bad governance and corruption are our ailments, while dictatorship is your ailment. If we fight together, we will improve our economy and you will keep your young in their country. You see, not only the economy, but even the problems are also globalized. Nobody can say this or that is not my problem. The problem is regional and contagious.

          • Legacy

            Hi Horizon,

            I am willing to stake my clairvoyance prowess cred in predicting , that sometime in the next 4-6 years, a head of state from one of these countries’ will visit the other’s capital. On what ground does my learned friend makes this well-intended but impossible premonition you ask?

            Broken Clock.:)

      • Amde

        Hi Horizon,

        I definitely don’t expect Isayas to change. What happens afterwards is unknown, but I am inclined to believe there is a PFDJ system that will survive him, and which has learned to thrive and benefit from the status quo. A bit like North Korea.

    • Nitricc

      Hi AMDE, it will never be any kind business interactions between Eritreans and Ethiopian till the Ethiopians lose the mentality of taken advantage by the Eritreans and Ethiopians masters the art of doing business. The truth is that if there is a free market and free trade Eritreans will leave in the dust and you are going to scream unfair, Eritreans are taking advantage and all BS. The truth? catch up with the Eritreans in doing and competing business and then may be we can deal and do business till then, forget it, it won’t work.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Nitricc,

        Why is this person who calls himself A.mde hasn’t considered the possibility of a Post-Weyane Ethiopia? Yes, when the Weyanes are really cornered and are looking at all exit strategies to escape the wrath of the Ethiopian people, he wants to talk about an unlikely scenario of “post-Isayyas Ethio-Eritrea”. Amazing, to say the least how he is untethered from reality.

        Didn’t someone tell him that his Weyane are scared witless that they have agreed to enter into a dialogue with theEthiopian opposition groups without preconditions.

        Haven’t someone whispered to him that the Weynaes are regrouping some of the Armed units to a level of a Division composed only of Tigrayan soldiers.

        Did he forget that the wrath of the Ethiopian people against the Weyane leadership is temporarily is kept under control through the draconian Emergency Rule and Command Posts.

        Talk about someone wallowing in the deep seas of wish full thinking.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Gheteb; hahahah i was thinking the same thing. lol AMDE is a weyane lover and he thinks Weyane going to rule Ethiopia. He didn’t even registred his opposition to the weyane when they were gunning down his people. How can you expect him to say anything about them let alone predicting the end to their rule.

        • Amde

          Hi Gheteb,

          Sure I have. A post-weyane Ethiopia as far as your living god is concerned, is going to be even tougher on him and you. Basically, more political space, better means, less incentive to deal with you.

          The weyane want to have a deal with Eritrea because it is in their interest to have the northern border (i.e. Tigray) safe and secure and accessible for business and investment.

          A non-weyane government will likely not be as interested, and would have nothing to lose by maintaining the status quo. Remember, the current infrastructure will set trade momentum in place that will take significant concessions from the Eritrean side to change. If I am in Gonder, Tadjourah is a straight shot by rail. If I am in Neqemt and Awassa, Djibouti is accessible by rail.

          Go tell your boss “አያይ – don’t be a dimwit like me”

          On the other hand, tell him he is doing a fantastic job.

          Amde
          PS. How is your search going?

          • michelda

            selam Amde

            That is exactly what they don’t get, whether or not Tplf is in power, it doesn’t change Ethiopia’s calculs Vis-à-vis Eritrea; if anything it might worsen it….

            I think You need to dumb it down, so they can grasp you….lol

          • Amde

            Hi michelda,

            Gheteb is literally the living example of አውቆ የተኛ. Except in his case it is አውቆ ያበደ

            Nitricc is a secret Gojame. He is an Amiche who just misses Ethiopia very much, and has probably never stepped foot in Eritrea.

            It is strange they feel they will get a better deal after Weyane.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi AMDE; i thought you were an engineer? lol Don’t you guys have to think more than say Berhe?
            sunny; if you believe i was deported from Ethiopia then how is i have never set a foot in Eritrea? The last time i check, your evil weyane was deporting Eritreans to Eritrea not the USA. you are simply Brilliant.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi michelda,

            You and your ilks can woolgather all you want and think whatever you may pop up in your mind. The Eritrean strategy regarding whoever is ruling Ethiopia is simple.

            Accept Eritrea’s independence and sovereignty and deal with Eritrea accordingly, or face the fate of Hialeselassie and The Derg and the soon to be interred six-feet deep, the recreantly loathsome Weyane.

            If you think that Eritrea’s stand In the event of the Weyane’s downfall is going to be that of 1991 redux, then you know nothing of what is awaiting your Emama Ethiopia. Eritrea’s political calculus is far more nuanced and laser focused on how to deal with Ethiopia than you could ever imagine.

          • Amde

            Gheteb,

            I would like to know where you saw the definition of “nuanced” and “laser focused”. Are you still using that Dictionary for Retards?

          • Hayat Adem

            Gheteb,
            Can you teach me how to do that belly laughing? I need it now.

          • michelda

            SELAM Gheteb

            And how is that working out for you? since most of your people are heading to Ethiopian and sudanese refugee camps and the economy is in tatters….

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi michelda,

            You said:

            ” since MOST of your people are heading to Ethiopian and sudanese refugee camps…”.

            MOST meaning: greatest in amount or degree.

            You mean over 3 million Eritreans are heading to Ethiopia and Sudan? Whoa Ho Ho Ho Ha … Har Har Har …..

            Man, you don’t know beans about these stuff and your reasoning is pathetically sub-bar. However, I have to burst out laughing and I am rolling in the aisles. Har Har Har Har ….. Har Har Har ….. Har Har Har ….

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            Are you guffawing at a grocery store? Watch out for the merchandise.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            (Joke) Isayas created Bret that can reach America.

            One day he was upset and ordered to get it ready. So he people got ready and waiting for him to give the order.

            He said Tokus and they tried but it got stack. So on the wiki-talki he asked for status. They said negative it didn’t work. He was upset and wanted to know the reason why, and they told him,

            We can’t tell you, you have to come see it yourself. He goes down to see it from the operation room on the telescope.

            As he see houndeds of people are hanging over the thing so when it got fired to reach the destination, but the weight was so much it can’t take off.

            Berhe

          • michelda

            hi Gheteb

            sorry I meant all, just open the border and see what happens, It’s actually one of ethiopia’s biggest worries……kkkkk

          • Nitricc

            Ato AMDE; wrong again. You can built what ever with the borrowed money but what is the sustainability for your; say your train? Without political stability your train can be blown out from its trucks by simple armed pandits. how long do you think your toothless train will last? Although i would have liked saving your people saving from pails of garbage before you can talk about infrastructure and all BS.

          • Amde

            Hi Nitricc,

            I have to upvote you for ” your toothless train ” that was funny. I was a gear manufacturing engineer for a while, and let me tell ya, those gears had teeth. Not the canines and incisors that stare back at you when you look in your morning mirror, but the more elegant and mathematically defined involutes. No tooth, eventually no gear, no torque, no movement.

            Maybe that should be your new name – Captain Involute.

            Political stability is always a risk for sure, but that is why we are keeping your man at bay 🙂

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi AMDE: there is nothing to risk in creating political stability. A country like Ethiopia; it must have fair distribution of resources and fairly equal representations. Right now, the Tigryans are saying Tigray first, the Oromos are saying Oromo first and the poor Amara is stuck with the name and definition of Ethiopia. I have never read that say Amhara First; this tells me that the Amhara is the only ethnic who really care about the country called Ethiopia. if that is not bad, you have the weyane who are bent to break the back bone of the Amara ethnic. what if all concerned party come to the table and think, work and believe in one Ethiopia? you see, that is not hard. your problem is, you don’t have a leader who can unite you.

          • Amde

            Selam Capt Involute,

            Well, you have some point – I am against ethnic politics. But it is dangerous to assume there is no Ethiopian identity that transcends ethnicity. Dangerous for you and for Somalia for example.

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            When do you think that post weyane in Ethiopia? Do you think they will dare to have fair election and call it 100% again?

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            Your guess is as good as mine.

            I think the more realistic scenario is they start loosening up election so federal and regional parliaments become more diverse. They have talked a bit about proportional representation.

            So less of a sharp transition, more gradual. There are too many vested interests for it to be a sharp one.

            Amde

    • michelda

      Hi Amde

      Ethiopia is still going to need eritrea’s port specialty massawa port. It make economic and logistical sense to serve northern Ethiopia. But the number one rule of any landlocked country is” Don’t put all your eggs in one basket”, so Ethiopia i going to diversify its option just like its doing now. The biggest challenge for Eritrea is to buyback ethiopian trust and in order to be competitive, you needs to catch up with others neighboring countries in terms of infrastructure investment, this will take at a minimum 5 years. (that is assuming eritrean can get the loan).

      But let’s hope for the best ; if ethiopia’s economic growth keep progressing; there will be more than enough business for all the available ports.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Michelda, you must be from tigray, sorry Masawa is of limit. if you want Assab, go talk to the Arabs.

        • michelda

          Hi, Nitricc

          How old are you ? you sound very childish and immature…

          • Nitricc

            Hi Michelda, old enough to small you a mile away.

        • Ismail AA

          Hi Nitricc hawey,

          I can’t take you seriously when tell someone to ” go and talk to the Arabs.” Why shouldn’t they deal with Eritreans? You must be joking or shall believe that the regime has given up sovereignty on Assab due to secret deal or sale. Why shouldn’t they talk to Eritreans
          Regards

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ismail, I know how much they hate the Arabs and i was just sticking to them. lol I don’t know why but they just hate the Arabs.

          • Ismail AA

            Hi Nitricc,

            I think it is not hate or love business. If you were to visit Addis Ababa today, you would find the four and five star hotels are crowded with Arab businessmen and investors. The Arab investment in Ethiopia sums up to hundreds of millions or even billions. I am sure you heard about Al Amoudi who his half Ethiopian but a very indispensable pioneer and bridge to the Saudi and Gulf investors. By the way, his offer to invest in Eritrea was stupidly refused at the beginning of the current dictatorship’s rule. Thus, peoples in our neighborhood are busy in nation-building while some of us in Eritrea are mired in defending a regime that we know is not in the right path.
            Regards

          • michelda

            Hey Nitricc, sorry to break it to you but Ethiopia have better relationship with the arabs that isaias afwerki….they are our biggest trading partners and they are investing in our country, not in Eritrea.

          • Nitricc

            Hi michelda I don’t believe that. but if there are arabs in Ethiopia and are crowding the hotels it can only be they are coming to take your beautiful women you have down there. do you know how many Ethiopian women are in Arab country? Well, that is what you call investment in todays Ethiopia.

          • michelda

            Hi Nitricc; you don’t need to belive it but its fact !

          • Nitricc

            Hi Micheda, at least the Arabs are not crowding the Asmara hotels. Your government is selling your women legally and that is the difference. you sold everything now you are selling your women.shame on you.

          • michelda

            Hi Nitricc;

            Lol….no one is being sold in ethiopia, it’s a free country, unlike eritrea that is an open prison. The only choice eritrean women have today is if they want to stay in eritrea and be rape in sawa camp or take their chances with the arab criminal. Ironically the only safe place for eritrean in Ethiopia….

            Here is the bottom line nitricc boy; the proof is in the pudding…. your people are fleeing to our country not the other way around.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Michelda, the problem with the pfdj folks is that instead of basing their arguments on facts, they are guided by their emotions and wishful thinking.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Michelda,

        You say:

        ” The biggest challenge for Eritrea is to buyback ethiopian trust and in order to be competitive…”.

        You put the cart before the horse and you must be surely out of your cotton-picking mind. This is akin to someone who has robbed you blind asking for a loan based on trust.

        No way that Eritrea is going to deal with your backstabbing perfidious Weyane, mark my word, EVER again. You can bank on that statement and you can also take it straight to the bank, if you know what I mean.

        • michelda

          Hi Gheteb

          Only one probleme with your rant, Ethiopia is not asking, we good !!…. In fact; we are actively refusing any attempt by the likes of Herman Cohen, who is begging on behalf of eritrean regime to use eritrean ports. Its buyer’s market not seller’s…

          • Peace!

            Hi Micheda,

            Good. But the thing is when you guys mention Ethiopia it is helpful to be a bit more specific, specially when you bragging, because it is too obvious that the ruling gang, TPLF, has more respect and love for PFDJ than for the majority of ethnic OROMOS and AMHARAS.

            Peace!

          • michelda

            Hi Peace!

            Would you care to elaborate on how ” TPLF, has more respect and love for PFDJ than for the majority of ethnic OROMOS and AMHARAS”.

          • Peace!

            HI michelda,

            It is simply a plain fact and I am sure you do not need my elaboration nor any convincing argument. However, I have no intention to instigate such unproductive discussion rather trying to point out that the ongoing bragging campaign doesn’t reflect the facts on the ground.

            Peace!

          • michelda

            Hi Peace!

            So, In other word you can’t back up your claim and don’t really have a point.

          • Peace!

            Hi michelda,

            If you are honestly insisting for elaboration, then I rather take the bragging as just innocent.

            Peace!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Michelda,

            What Herman Cohen is talking about is using the Eritrean ports to save your STARVING people and is only based on humanitarian basis. On national issues regarding the Eritrean ports, Mr. Cohen does NOT speak for the Government Of Eritrea.

            If Ethiopia is not asking about our ports then why are you and other Ethiopian are talking about the Eritrean ports obsessively 24/7/365? Yes, tell me why. All the Weyanes port related activities was done to weaken and ultimately strangulate Eritrea economically and sorry to let you know it has abjectly failed.

            We know your Wayne is badly cornered and is desperately groping for an exit from the impending wrath of the Ethiopian people that has so far kept in check by using the draconian emergency rules.

            There many signs that your Weyane is on its last legs and don’t you ever consider that Eritrea will even entertain the thought of even talking to your detestably loathsome Weyanes EVER again. Sure, you can highlight that statement and save it for your future references.

          • michelda

            Hi Gheteb

            I don’t even know what to say to you except laugh; because you are living in PFDJ induced coma.

            Fact are stubborn things…. here are some for you.
            *Herman Cohen was begging ethiopia long before the current drought and he is a lobbyist.
            * No one in ethiopian side is really talking about eritrean ports. The only time it comes up is when eritreans bring it up. You know like this article on an eritrean websites including pro-PFDJ websites.

            The rest is your propaganda originated imagination…..

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Amde, michelda and all,

        As Ismail said, as long as the business is done based on international approved procedures and norms the business needs will drive the relationship.

        However I think it’s important that Ethiopia see the relationship not only what Ethiopia can give as in port usage but also how much Eritrea will also gain from Eritrea as in selling goods, coffee sugar,teff, livestock

        • michelda

          Dear Berhe Y

          You are absolutely right, It need to be a mutually beneficial and interdependent relationship.That’s is the genius of Djibouti, getting Ethiopia to invest a lot in their country and in return making sure the relationship also benefits ethiopia in terms of other sells like food, electricity, even Drinking water….While mounting a close personal and cultural relationship.

          Seriously, how did this come to be….it should have been the other way around !!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Michelda,

            I can grantee you it’s not because of Eritrean people lack of motivation or creativeness.

            We just have the worst person, the worst enemy at home as our president that’s punishing and killing our people’s aspirations.

            Berhe

        • Abi

          Hi Berhe
          I failed to understand your point. Can you explain a little further? Thanks

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            I had a typo, please read again hope it make sense.

            Basically what I mean is that, instead of approaching the relationship only what Ethiopia can give to Eritrea, we should also look at it what Ethiopia will gain from Eritrea.

            All the political elite can say, we don’t want this we don’t want that but they don’t feel the stomach of the people who need the trade the most.

            For example, farmers and livestock herders from northern Ethiopia use to benefit from sale of their goods to Eritrean markets. I still think there will still be a market for it.

            Ethiopia airlines have a relative good market, and with stop over in Addis, it will be the best positioned airlines to service the market compared to others.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Swt Abi,
            I think he is saying Ethiopia’s relation with Eritrea should not be limited with considerations of history and geopolitics. Ethiopia should consider Eritrea also as a significan export destination. And I think he has a valid point.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            Thanks for the explanation. I knew what he was saying. I just like talking to him. It was my way of saying ” pay attention!”
            How is the tutorial in belly laughing going?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            Yesterday it was your “QUEENS” facial hair that got WET; now the fantasy based foolish talk about Ethio-Eritrean co-operation that is getting your ” yQUEENS” appetite getting “WHET”.

            I am telling you these Weyane lot are indeed comically riotous and I am about to die of laughter! Whoa Ho Ha Har Har Har

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            I don’t think this is just a belly laugh. Sounds like you are loosing some hot air from behind.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            I think you are in need of upgrading your vocabulary here. The phrase Har Har is defined thusly:

            har har

            A sarcastic, yet respectful laugh most notably used over the internet.

            http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=har%20har

            I assure you that you won’t find it in “Amsalu Aklilu” English-Amharic Dictionary.

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            I did not read “Har Har”. I just heard it.

          • Amde

            Selam Abi:

            አቢ፡ እንዴ ግሄተብ ፈሳህ እንዴ?
            ግሄተብ፡ እረ እኔ አልፈሳሁንም.. ከዲክሽነሪ ነው.. ይሄው ተመልከት..

            I am dying.

            Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            አፍንጫዬን ይዤ ተመለከቱት

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Abi,
            He didn’t care to extend the help. Can u believe it? I thought he was a helper when he told us the other day he tutors Eritrean kids in diaspora. I will never forgive him if he is telling them anything about IA. Seriously.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            This belly laughing thing comes with a package. According to the person who is dying from it, you need to install a pressure releasing value before you apply for tutorial.

          • Hayat Adem

            Aha Abi,
            I can give him what he wants but how do I do it without losing my friends such as Ras Abi? I really need the thing so badly and urgently. Read urgently, now this minute.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            What we need to do urgently is save his life. He is dying of guffawing.
            Ras Abi always ready to serve and defend the Queen.

          • Hayat Adem

            Abi,
            So so sweet and brave of you Time to promote you.
            What is superior to Ras?
            The KING is also reserved for you any time you are ready for it.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            “ከራስ በላይ ነፋስ”

        • Amde

          Hi Berhe,

          I think you need to correct “..but also how much Eritrea will also gain from Eritrea..” to read “….but also how much Ethiopia will also gain from Eritrea..”. I am assuming that is what you meant.

          Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            Yes you are correct, I fixed it.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            Let me just say what I said years ago about the Eritrean Airline. I said, ” I see Eritrean Airline as a subsidiary to Ethiopian Airlines.”
            Eritrean Airline can shuttle between the two capitals many times a day. Ethiopian AL doesn’t need to fly to Asmara.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You are correct and if it makes economic and business sense. We have to take away the “pride” part out of the equation and see things from partnership point of view.

            I think Eritrean airlines needs to make the assessment that it can sustain the operating cost of having a dedicated airlines and be profitable.

            Berhe

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Abi, or the Ethiopian airlines could just take over operation from Eritrean airlines to serve both domestic and international Eritrean flights. That is common practice these days in the globalized market. Btw, is there anything as the Eritrean airlines?

          • Abi

            Hi Abraham
            No there is no Eritrean Airlines. We are being futuristic. We are hoping there will be one in the future.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Gashe Abi,
            Indyet senebetu. I couldn’t understand why EAL needs not to fly to Asmara. Would like to throw a line or two without violating your rule of keeping it brief?
            Regards

          • Dear Ismail AA,
            May be Abi saw the flight between the two capitals as internal flight. May be he did not mean flights towards europe and other external destinations and back to addis. Connection of eritrea to such destinations should be covered by ethiopian airlines that would pass through asmara airport. Otherwise, both countries will not benefit. Ras Abi, will give us more explanations.

          • Abi

            Kemey Ayay Ismail
            I will be brief.
            The reason is mainly because Asmara Airport is not up to standard to handle our state of the art aircrafts. ( Berhe, I’m just kidding)

            I think Eth AL makes profit on international flights. I consider the flights between the two capitals as international. As an Eritrean you have to pay in US dollars. If that is the case Eth AL will definitely dominate the flights. Mind you, Ert AL is not in a position to compete for dollars.
            ( please read SGJ interview. Meles was explaining why hotels in Addis charge foreigners in dollars . Pay particular attention to the reason, your passport.)
            In my opinion the solution is let Eth AL bring Eritreans from all over the world to Addis. Ert AL will fly them to Asmara. The same principle applies on return trips. Ert AL fly them to Addis, Eth AL will do the rest.
            Security is also another issue on international flights.
            This is what my mind says. My heart wants to dominate the business and take as much foreign currency as possible.
            I want Eth AL to compete for every dollar including Eritrean dollars. Don’t show up with a nakfa decorated with an ugly and slow animal and expect to fly in my shiny and fast Dreamliner. Are you kidding me????No Sir.
            Show me the dollars.
            I could be totally wrong. What do you think?

          • Ismail AA

            Indemn walu wey aderu Gashe Abi,
            Thanks for the humor more than the substance. You have won the competetion against my non-existent airlines. But do not forget that you owe me dollars when I will come with world class airlines and win in future; the game is just like Mr. Trump asking Mrs. Merkel to pay arears for services he did not deliver.
            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Ismail
            One has to be out of his mind to expect substance from Abi.
            Anyway, as I explained to Abraham, we are talking about the future. I am not comparing a camel with an aircraft.
            ሁሉም ባለው ነው የሚያጌጠው
            Please don’t put that ugly animal on your shiny plane.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Gashe Abi,
            Gmelu sint hiwet yadane; sent yeterabew hod yaTegebe iko new. Qelal indaymeslwo.
            Regards

          • Amde

            Selam IsamailAA,

            As you know in the US, there are mascots.

            I propose we name the EriAirlines ግመል mascot ክንፉ።

            Unwieldy but calm, soaring over his plodding cousins in the desert below, ክንፉ makes a contented sigh as he sets his sights on the cool እንጦጦ hills. He lands to the cool air and the smell of eucalyptus. Tomorrow he continues on to Hargeisa where the natives have to decide to ride, eat or fly him, but tonight, ክንፉ is ኮንtent.

            Amde

  • ‘Gheteb

    The Ethiopian Railway Line Swimming In The Red

    Greetings!!

    It has been reported some months ago that the white elephant Ethiopian Railway line (ERL) has been teetering on the brink or edge of bankruptcy. As it was explained in details in an article by professor Al Mariam, this ball and chain project is not what it is billed to be and is actually nothing to write home about.

    http://ecadforum.com/2017/01/29/ethiopia-another-t-tplf-white-elephant-for-sale/

    Here is the main issue facing ERL.

    ” According to a report in the online version of the “Reporter”, a “private newspaper published in Addis Ababa”, Getachew Betru, “CEO” of “ERC” informed the “Ethiopian Parliament” that the Corporation is $102.5 billion birr in the red “.

    Here is the original link to “The Reporter” if you want to check it out.

    https://www.ethiopianreporter.com/content/

    ” የዕዳ ክምችቱ 102.5 ቢሊዮን ብር ደርሷል
    የአዲስ አበባ ቀላል ባቡር ኪሳራ 1.8 ቢሊዮን ብር ነው

    የኢትዮጵያ ምድር ባቡር ኮርፖሬሽን የፋይናንስ እጥረትና የብድር ግዴታ ክፍያዎች የ2009 ዓ.ም. ፈተናዎች እንደሆኑበት፣ በይፋ ለሕዝብ ተወካዮች ምክር ቤት የመንግሥት ልማት ድርጅቶች ጉዳዮች ቋሚ ኮሚቴ አሳወቀ፡፡
    ኮርፖሬሽኑ ሰኞ ጥር 15 ቀን 2009 ዓ.ም. ለቋሚ ኮሚቴው ባቀረበው የስድስት ወራት የሥራ አፈጻጸም ሪፖርት እንደገለጸው፣ ለበጀት ዓመቱ 60.276 ቢሊዮን ብር የገንዘብ ፍላጎት ውስጥ 10.5 ቢሊዮን ብር ወይም 31 በመቶው ብቻ ምንጩ እንደታወቀ ገልጿል”.

    How was this ERL was built and where did its financing come from?

    ” The “Ethiopian Railway” project is said to connect the Ethiopian capital with Djibouti on the Red Sea coast. The USD$4 billion project is backed by China and built by the China Railway Engineering Corp. and China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation”.

    Yes, that means the Ethiopian government borrowed USD$4 billion to finance this project adding to the crushing debt burden that the country is living under. Many believe that Ethiopia is drowning in debt.

    ” The fact of the matter is that the TPLF built a white elephant rail line based on a pipe dream about money growing on trees (or picking up money along the rail lines) only to find out at the end of the year that they must have been smoking something in that pipe when they thought they will ‘find a way out’ “.

    Asking a very pertinent question, Professor Al Mariam wrote:

    ” Is there any realistic possibility that the rail lines (both long haul and light) could ever become profitable and financially viable.

    The TPLF says the lines can be viable and that the current fiscal crisis is a bump on the road, or the rail line. So much credibility from the guys who promised so much from the construction of the rail lines.

    Are both rail lines doomed to bankruptcy and/or fire sale auction?

    According to evidence obtained by the Reporter, the debt accumulated in 2016 for the rail project from foreign bank loans increased from 71.2 billion birr to 76.37 billion birr. Domestic revenues obtained from long-term bond sales for the project increased from 15.4 billion birr to 17.6 billion birr. Nonetheless, ERC will be unable to meet a debt obligation payment of 1.06 billion birr (USD$45 million) in January 2017.

    The total debt of the ERC in 2016 increased from 95.9 billion birr to 102.5 billion according to the Reporter. Total payments in principal and interest due January 2017 are said to be 2.2 billion birr (“USD$96 million”). The Reporter stated that because of lack of funds for operational needs and the enormous debt burden, the ERC is ‘in extreme financial distress’ “.

    Assessing the overall Ethiopian economy professor Al Mariam renders a verdict of:

    ” The economy in TPLF’s Ethiopia is in implosion mode.”

    Those who talk about Djibouti’s port expansions and the railways lines expanding all over Ethiopia and beyond are just wallowing in the deep seas of wish full thinking. When the very railway, ERL, is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, one need only ask why such a monomaniacal obsession with such a white elephant project?

    The Ethiopian obsession of gaining an outlet to the sea or what I dub as “The Assab Obsession” will lead to the bankruptcy of Ethiopia. All the Ethiopian revanchists and irredentists wild dreams are, of course, driven by political urges that are quite yet not well understood.

    The more potent one of these two forces is the Weyane’s irredentism that is laying the groundworks for the total undoing of Ethiopia as we know it. It is bleeding dry through all these white elephant projects and other Potemkin village enterprises that the ruling TPLF has been engaged on for reasons that many Ethiopian will come to knw about once the TPLF is going to go on its Greater Tigray agenda in-full-gears.

    • Selamat Gheteb,

      Thanks for the insight. Consider the long term cash flow and PV valuation of any financing of a new business. the cash flow is negative for what could seem a very long excruciating time in the short run and then positive cash flow commences. Theory of interest. Your share does give insight and positive consultation to Ethiopian economic ministers to whisper into EPMD’s ears on how to increase the Present Value of this railway infrastructure. The greater the discounting factor the more likely the danger of the Sika Hadid to rust without use. One of the discounting factor that can decrease and endanger Ethiopia’s progress it’s foreign policy and posture towards Eritrea’s Asseb. Amde mentioned Ethiopia’s security concerns. I am of the belief that there is a much better way to increase share values of Ethiopia’s RR Corporation and how to assure the minimization of this specific discounting factor parameter.
      The time value of money and contingent events.// Back of the envelop calculation suggests that there are deep pockets that can rescue the project which is far from doom. Think “To big to fail WAMU, ING…” and certainly Wolverine X’s turf Michigan Auto Industry under the President Barack Obama’s administration.
      The Ethiopian unemployment and the disparity of equitable distribution of Ethiopia’s resources through the Ethnically divided with the favoritism of one over the other could be the spoiler. The State of Emergency Levy may not and can not hold for too long.
      I would love to hear from Amde on his thoughts on this at his convenience.

      tSAtSe

      • Amde

        Selam TsaTse,

        What insight are you thanking him about?

        This project is part of Djibouti’s long term NATIONAL strategy. And it is part of China’s long term GLOBAL strategy (new silk road). There is too much money to be made.

        The British made the Suez canal to not have to travel around the Cape of Good Hope.
        This is part of the Chinese effort to not have to travel around the Cape of Good Hope.

        Cash flow issues AFTER the projects have significantly physically advanced get solved with slight accounting adjustments. You change the payback terms and voila problem solved.

        Amde

    • michelda

      Hi Gheteb

      I don’t know if you know this but the world runs on debt and Ethiopia’s debt to gdp is still very mangebel. In the worst-case scenario you can get debt relief or structuring. Don’t fool yourself by reading an old hatful, power hungry, pessimist like professor Al Mariam, he is against everything the government does and no alternative….. Don’t worry about Ethiopia (we know what we are doing).

      First, You need to learn what a white elephant project is, let me give you a clue, Its not a fast moderne electric rail lines to your only port, that is operational and cheap to operate/ maintain. If you want an example of white elephant project just look at massawa airport or the other ill thought out Isaias afwerki projects that are sitting idly by in Eritrea. Addis Ababa is a fast growing modern city of 5 million people that generates 30% of ethiopia’s gdp, NOT a Potemkin village.Try to think for yourself instead or regurgitating extremist propaganda.

      BTW; Eritrea is the second most indebted country in Africa just before Gambia according to world bank and IMF data.

      • iSem

        Hi Michelda:
        First if Al Mariam had wrote about a positive thing about Ethiopia, Gheteb would never mention him, but it does not matter if Al Mariam is against anything the government does, data does mot lie and data would vindicate one of them, the point is Al Mariam is allowed to say all the bad things about his government and still goes home to his loved one, in Gheteb’s country no one can do, no one, and the fact that Al Mariam can say this, it is positive thing for Ethiopia and Ethiopia is not going anywhere, at least soon, Ethiopia in one shape or form will outlast, outsmart and outshine PFDJ. So Gheteb is hot air, his logic is as failure as PFDJ’s and his personal life in taters like that of IA, whom he worships like an a pagan worships his none responsive idol. So no need for you to enlighten Gheteb on servicing debt and gdp etc
        And you forgot the best example of white elephant, it is called Eritrea, IA’s Eri is a textbook case for a white elephant.
        Speaking of P. village. I am not sure if he understand what it means, it is something fake with nothing to show for except for the eye, superficial and think about the micro-dams, the schools, the hospitals and the factories that PFDJ reports it has built, they do not show any change in the lives of Eritreans, and who has run to the one country, who has built monument for a foreign poet to impress the country that the word, Potemkin village originated from?
        I feel sorry for this dude, he is an accomplished liar
        Gheteb what would happen if some Eritrean economist in Asmara writes bad review about Eri’s project?

        • michelda

          hi isem

          you nail it…I couldn’t have put it better myself

        • Selamat Awatistas,

          The above personal comment is ground for a ban.

          Below is a copy and paste from a short my short comment held by a forumer with MOD privileges.
          …And Gheteb, quite frankly dude, you wouldn’t even qualify to be his administrative assistance. I certainly will give him an ear and allow him to steer Merkebna going forward..

          tSAtSE

          • iSem

            Tsatse:
            If I were u I would heed BY’s advice from a few weeks ago. and take Nitricc and Gheteb with u.
            No, nothing strangulated Eri except PFDJ, and I can guarantee with leadership of IA and support of the ppl like you and Nitricc and Gheteb, had the Soviet Union not fragmented, your mafia would have been stuck in Sahel. Eri was given to EPLF on silver plate, no one challenged them and they squandered the good will, so please I are lecturing the wrong guy about freedom fighters and freedom and Eri, try that with Nitricc and also Gheteb, tell them Naqfa was the work of heroes not one man
            Now, do not ever lecture me about freedom fighters, u have no clue, if u had clue, now ur brain has been formatted, mine is still intact. If you can enrich my life by engaging, please do, if not please stay away and listen to BY

          • iSEM,

            In your dreams and imagination could you ever be me.

            I suggest you do not cross a border south when you are in the western hemisphere and when in the eastern hemisphere do not cross the border north. I have this epiphany and vision of your hideous crimes finally catching up to you and peace officers of the law putting hand cuffs on you. Your victims may have forgiven you, but the law is another matter. I want for you the freedom that you have always longed for.

            tSAtSE

        • Nitricc

          Hi Semere Andom, it pains you that much huh? What a loser.

    • Olana

      Dear Gheteb

      I want to bring three subjects here for your consideration that might help you to wake up and assess your personal situation (Illogical, envious statements). First according Al Mariam there is no country called Ethiopia as it died a long time ago as per his analysis and conclusions. I know you hate TPLF very much, but accepting and echoing Al Mariam’s cry and using him as a reference to express your grudging is madness. The guy has no shame to lie again and again to cover his repeated lies. Second you have not heard the news as rumors. It is the government itself disclosed the information to the public through a government and private media. That shows the transparency and accountability of the government and those charged with the execution of the projects. Thirdly, to get a loan as a country is not easy as it takes months and years of negotiations to convince the lender countries and banks. Have some respect to the chines, Indians,Turks and other countries who granted the loans after they study the feasibility of the projects. Banks will give you loans when they are sure that you will return the loan plus interest. I can imagine what your mafia leader could have done, if it was easy to get loans. You have no moral to discuss such issue as the mafia government you love so much has no the will and the competency even to imagine such procedures. Finally do not lie. The Birr has never reached 28 against the dollar.

    • Hayat Adem

      Gheteb,
      Is it the same alMariam who coined the extra T befor TPLF Fanti told us about? The same alMariam who opposes the game chnger Ethiopian project GERD?
      Nearly all infrastructure investments and capital expendures in the world are from loans. what matters is if you are securing best of the fair loans from what is availalble. Infrastructural investments especially long term ones such as rail way can never go bankrupt.
      Have you ever in your life cheered someone else for success? Try that positive thinking, otherwise you will be suffering a lot as neighbors keep on making some strides. I don’t think you will ever be happy even if Eritrea unleashes its growth potential after this bad regime is claered from the way. And such develpments in the neighborhood will be a good thing for Eritrea as well. I am not saying you don’t have to criticize bad investments but don’t be the proverbial donkey.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Hayat; speaking positive thinking; have you ever had a positive thing to say about Eritrea?You are so hypocrite you don’t even know what you preaching.

        • Hayat Adem

          Nitricc
          Was there any such grand infrastracural project success in Eritrea to speak of positively? Do want me to cheer up the government for the failed Eritrean (airlines)? Do you want me encourage the government for effectively depriving and killing the economic life two ports in its attempt to chocke Ethiopia. Or do you want me applaud it for literally hoarding and incapacitating the entire generation (YG recently in a paltalk named it generational genocide of warsai by yika’alo) in a modern slaverly plants? The only success I’ve seen since 2001 is by individuals in the athletics and biking.

          • Nitricc
          • tes

            Selam Hayat Adem,

            Sometimes be kind to Nitricc, OK.

            There are some projects today managed by project Engineer Dictator Isaias Afewerki. Despite his drop-out from his engineering class, DIA has finally got a chance to engage himself in the area he almost missed to work on.

            You know, it is a pain and regret to drop-out from your studies. No matter how much fortune or status you got, you always want to finish what you started on. After DIA got some basic Civil engineering courses on dam construction by Engineer Ghirmai and few talented engineers from Segen Construction Company in the year 2004-2008, and then some on field practice with engineers fom Ministry of Agriculture in Kerkebet Dama, he managed to own his own engineering office under the president in Asmara.

            This Presidential Engineering Enterprise which is specialized in Water Resources Engineering is managed by a PhD holder in Civil Engineering(no one knows about him as he is locked in a small residential vila around NICE), and its Chief Field engineer is Engineer Dictator Issaias Afewerki. This enterprise is highly equiped with modern engineering softwares and equipments which are strictly cpntrolled under the owner’s command DIA.

            Since 2012, Chief field Engineer DIA is accomplishing his dreams to be an engineer.

            And this is what I read before wome where about unfulfilled life journey:

            A man had hard early life. His family were poor. They didn’t let him start his school at the kindergarten. He missed that opportunity. He finished his regular studies and through his professional career he got all fortunes to accumulate enough wealth. By the end of his retirement, he came back to himself to see what is not fulfilled in his life journey.

            Saddenly he realized that he skipped early kindergarten years. He felt that he darely missed it. Then, he built a big kindergarten. There he spent two years playing with 4-6 years old kids. Finally he said, mission accomplished.

            Be kind therefore when you say, “Was there any such grand infrastracural project success in Eritrea to speak of positively?” Give credit to Engineer DIA’s final years mission accomplished works. If you do, your sins will be forgiven.

            tes

          • Berhe Y

            Dear tes,

            Not that it makes any difference, but for the record he was a science student and NOT engineering. But since he has wounded ego so this kind of things are important to him and his worshippers.

            If I am not mistaken, entrance to engineering is considered harder than that of science.

            Berhe

          • tes

            Selam Berhe Y.,

            His university study is controversial though it doesn’t make a difference. Ego is a killer and is killing him while we became a victim of his ego too. Anyone who is killing himself can not save others.

            I wish he finished his studies like Durue, Petros Solomon and others. He could have some humanity, at least at the end. But this guy, he is a simply a killer in everything.

            Yet he has worshipers like Gheteb. Not a surprise though as satan as also worshipers.

            tes

          • Nitricc

            Hi Tes, at least he is not bragging about rearranging cafeteria chairs. dude, at least give people their props, unlike you he wasn’t a chosen, privileged and elite. I can’t believe people fall for your fake story of the other day. next time make a story and stick with it. what a wasted individual. You are not better than any one, stop acting like one. what have you done?

          • Abi

            Hi General Nitricc
            IA was privileged and from a ruling class of ETHIOPIA!

          • tes

            Selam Nitricc,

            I thought you became matured boy by now. Anyway;

            Don’t you know that DIA is a privileged and elite of his time in the ELF units. He was chosen by ELF leaders and was sent to China to be trained by Mao as a Cadre. After completion, he came back and became a Political Commisionaire. Don’t you think this is a privilege?

            The time he was taking lessons about Dam Engineering from Engineer Girmai in Gerset and Fanko Dam, I was a project engineer employed by the same engineer. He was watching what we were doing. At least give me credit for this.

            In fact, we have some common life journey.

            He was sent to China as a privileged man, me too.

            He was trained by Engineer Girmai – the father of Irrigation in Eritrea(an exceptionally talented engineer but then became a victim of DIA) and me too.

            He was believed to be engaged in cooking food for his comrades, I was also believed to be engaged in arranging chairs for students.

            At least know this.

            tes

          • sara

            Dear tes,
            do you know the country you are residing now has a history of genocide where over a million Algerians died? how do you feel to live in a country which has such a legacy and still exploiting so many African countries . do you know all the dictators of the Franco phone countries are under the tutelage of the french state, that our mesakin Africans are being still colonized through the french states security apparatus.
            tes share with us what you feel and learned since you moved to 1st world europe from dirty/tiny/ poor undemoctatic african country .

          • tes

            Selam sara,

            To live in France is not my choice. I am forced to ask an asylum here and I am a refugee. Thanks for their generocity, I am living in peace here. All I I know is I am living in full freedom here in France without fear of arrest, prison, torture and life threats which I was facing back home on daily bases.

            I live in full freedom as a person and I feel good to live here. I have to thank French people for their generocity to welcome me and allow me to live among them. And I have to thank French government for protecting me through its laws.

            That is all I can say about my current residence in France.

            And like all citizens or legal settlers of France, I have freedom of speech. I can criticize, talk, oppose and support the French government. I can use my rights to say what I want when I have too.

            This is all I can say for you.

            tes

          • sara

            Dear Tes,
            i also wish you well, and good to know you are doing ok and you appriciate their hospitality
            is typical eritrean custom… i dont want to draw you into some thing you dont feel comfortable to comment. and i respect that.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi tes,

            Who do you know a leader who values education, and pursue his education while he was governing? Who is the leader who pushes his colleagues to continue their educations when he seized power and produced modern army leaders with MS’s and PhDs?

            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanual
            Meles can be a great example. Who do you have in mind?
            The King was also known for giving scholarships.

          • Nitricc

            Ras Abi, you are right Aman-H is talking about dead master but for the record, Melles bought the degrees and Phd’s for his generals. The worst crime your TPLF commuted against the people of Ethiopia the trashing of the Ethiopian education system. DEAD! of course for the likes of Aman-H it is a big deal and a resounding success. what a crime.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Abi,

            Who should look an exemplary from far distance, if there is close in our neighbor?

    • tes

      Selam Gheteb,

      Before going into a serious exchange, let me highlight this:

      Facts about Ethiopian Exchange – As you provided,

      1 USD = 22.50 Birr – Official
      1 USD = 27-30 Birr – On the black market.

      Facts about Eritrean Exchange Rate

      1 USD = 15 Nakfa – Official
      1 USD = 25 -30 Nakfa – Black market

      Forget now this bitter truth. I will speculate your family business activity as they are among those few selected and privileged families who are getting deliberate guidance on business legal and ethics.*

      Are your families who own small businesses among the owners of Gold Smith? I know that these small traditional business i flourishing as they are the main source of dirty money for corrupted PFDJ officials. You know what they do:

      Nakfa currenency is officially a confiscicated money owned by PFDJ Business dealers. Nakfa source is therefor unlimited. But they do have shortage of hard currency. In addition, because of international monetary circulation issue, PFDJ uses other dirty game.

      These days there are many places where gold is present at the surface. Local people are allowed to mine when PFDJ wants it. Then those small business owners are loaded with nakfa. They buy gold from the miners directly. Gold is collected and handed to PFDJ businessmen. This gold is taken by individuals to Dubai. And it becomes a source of hard currency.

      You can visit Medrek website to confirm some news about illegal gold trade activities.

      I read recently PFDJ is involving in weapons trade with North Korea. VOA had somes about this.

      I hope your families are not among these dirty business dealers.

      By the way, do you have any idea why Foreign Affairs Minister has a frequent visit to Russia and Serbia? Just I am asking.

      tes

      *Doing business illegally needs deliberate guidance directly from the architect of these dirty business activity. Who else better can be in Eritrea other than Dictator Isaias Afewerki. He has more than 40 years experience in this area. He knows it very well how to do it legally (according PFDJ business formula).

    • tes

      Selam Gheteb,

      And here is some facts about Eritrea

      Country Debt as Percent of GDP (2010 est.)
      Japan 225.9
      St. Kitts and Nevis 196.3
      Lebanon 139.0
      Jamaica 135.7
      Greece 130.2
      Eritrea 129.7 Remark: Not only among the top 10 most debted countries but also is one the most poorest countries* in the world list ranking 8th while Ethiopia is 14th.
      Grenada 119.1
      Italy 118.4
      Iceland 115.6
      Barbados 111.6

      Not only 8th in the list of poorest countries (Ethiopia – 15, Kiribati- 14, Mali-13, Togo-12, Guinea-Bissau-11, Madagascar-10, Guinea-9, Eritrea-8, Mozambique-7, Niger-6, Burundi-5, Liberia-4, Malawi-3, Democratic Republique of Congo-2, Central African Republique-1), Global Finance has also added this note for additional information

      The strategically positioned state of Eritrea has a highly secretive and repressive government, making it difficult to obtain up-to-date economic figures. The one-party state, currently under sanctions from the UN Security Council over the government’s alleged role in the Horn of Africa’s grave security issues, has a poor record on human rights, and hundreds of thousands have fled the country in recent years, many of them hoping to reach Europe. The majority of the population are young, and overall 80% remain dependent upon subsistence agriculture using rudimentary farming methods. Recurrent drought in the Sahel region makes food security a particular challenge for the country as a whole. There are, however, prospects that mining could bring further economic growth to this seriously under-developed country, with four new mines producing potash, gold, copper and zinc expected to be in operation by 2018. For the present, it remains the ninth poorest country in the world, a slight improvement on last year’s eight position.

      Source: The Poorest Countries in the World

      tes

      • Abraham H.

        Selam tes, check your info, the update from Feb 2017 is that Ethiopia stands at 21st position; Eritrea stuck at 8th poorest nation. For sure Ethiopia is going to progress by many digits forward, if the gov manages to keep political stability.

        • tes

          Selam Abraham,

          I have refered 2016 document. I have updated my sources. Thank you.

          tes

          • Abraham H.

            Selam tes, welcome bro.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Abraham; no ever accused you for your brightness but if Eritrea is isolated, no free press no accountability and under complete control of one man, then how do they obtain this information. Sunshine!

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Nitricc, though Eritrea is largely isolated and secretive without free press and accountability to its own people as you said, the regime does give some data to international agencies like the World Bank, and other development agencies, in order to secure loans and some aid. These organizations use the data they get and other extrapolation techniques to determine the standing of the country’s economy with respect to other countries.

    • Abi

      Hi ‘Gheteb
      Whatever you and this alMariam dude are smoking is burning you alive. Time to detox my friend.

    • G. Gebru

      Hi Gheteb.
      አባ ጉምባሕ ዘይግራቱ ይኾል፣
      ሕማቕ ሰብአይ ዘይሰበይቱ የዕልል ኮይኑ ነገርካ።
      Thanks.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Gheteb, what can you say about the Hirgigo power plant, which certainly is NOT a White Elephant acccording to your definition, but rather a venture with life and death importance to the Eritrean economy. As you’ve heard recently from the interview of your inept dictator master, this project, which was built at a staggering cost of $200 million in mid-nineties has been left to decay under his watchful eye. The same goes also with the Massawa airport, Sawa airport, Asmara airport, the sea ports, and the micro dams that have been filled with silt and rendered useless, and many of these projects actually having no positive impact to the economy. What about the mining activity that has been going on since 2011, is there any slight positive impact from these projects? Absolutely nothing. Eritrea is a nation blessed with more than a 1000km sea coastline, yet millions of Eritreans go hungry, and are in abject poverty. Shame! We also heard your demigod Isayas belittling the Ethiopian GERD project that would produce 6000mw power as a white elephant; yet, he can’t even keep his 120mw Hirgigo power plant up and running, resulting in the closure of central factories such as the Massawa Cement factory. Gheteb, what you are doing here is barely shading chrocodile tears on behalf of your good for nothing PFDJ regime, because you have miserably failed the Eritrean people.

      • sara

        Dear Abraham,
        Ato Amde up-voted your comment i think he is happy an eritrean is openly accepting the haileslasie dergi mantra “eritrea can not support itself economically” that we read in the past and being promoted again by current regime in power in ethipia.
        love it or leave it eritrea is still standing on its feet despite all the obstacles and relentless attack from its all its adversaries…
        abraham, i mean the eritrean state.

        • Amde

          Hi Sara,

          I upvoted you because I really like you. You are decent and you have a sense of humor. One of the people I’d like to meet and have tea with.

          Amde

          • sara

            ato Amde,
            its just a comment like what every one is trying to say from his prospective, no offence to you personally just about the ideas floating only.
            you know you also made lough by bringing Tea thing that i have yet to serve coffee to ato Abi because he always calls after we are done with our coffee hour.

          • Amde

            Hi Sara,

            I was not offended at all. I mean it – I like you. You are a genuinely good person.

            Amde

        • Abraham H.

          Selam sara, there is nothing in my comment that indicates a claim “the haileslasie dergi mantra “eritrea can not support itself economically””. The failed projects I’ve wriiten about are taken right from the horse’s mouth, aka DIA. Empty pride has not served us in the past, and definitely, is not going to help us overcome our failures now. Rather, all Eritreans have to unite against our REAL nemesis right at our home-the PFDJ regime. I agree with you Eritrea is still standing on its two feets, but that is thanks to the resilience and stubborn determination of the Eritrean people to survive in the face of all sorts of adversities from the Isayas junta.

          • sara

            Dear Abraham,
            at least we agree on our peoples resilience to keep the state alive and kiking against all the odds in the past few years.
            oooh..you know the kitchen bell is ringing..
            talk to you tomorrow.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abraham,

            You wrote:

            ” I agree with you Eritrea is still standing on its two feets, but that is thanks to the resilience and stubborn determination of the Eritrean people to survive in the face of all sorts of adversities from the Isayas junta”.

            Why don’t you just say it? The Eritrean government under the leadership of PIA not only withstood the untold amount of conspiracies and agendas to undo Eritrea’s hard won independence and all the plots to bring Eritrea to it’s knees, but it has, for all intents and purposes, has FOILED the grand Weyane-led anti-Eritrean projects.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Gheteb, The Eritrean people is standing tall thanks to its resilience and by supporting each other in times of hardship which is part of our culture. And this is happening IN SPITE OF all the endless stumbling blocks that are being laid on its way by the inept PFDJ junta. And there is no doubt, the Eritrean people will outlive the criminal and corrupt regime of DIA sooner or later.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Abraham H.,

        Your incessant vituperation against Eritrea and your mindless adulation of Ethiopia doesn’t change the objective conditions in both Eritrea and Ethiopia. The fact of the matter is that:

        (A) The Eritrean Hirgigo Power Plant “was under an extensive 2 * 23MW power plant expansion program since the beginning of last year that are aimed at upgrading its current output capacity from 84 MW to 132 MW” and ” The two 12K60MC-S, low-Speed generators alone have the capacity to produce approximately 73% of Eritrea’s total power needs. They are now fully operational and start dispatching power to the national grid”. And, with The Hirgigo Sea Water Desalination Plant having been cleaned and restored things are not as bleak in Eritrea as you and your Merek folks would like us to believe, using Goole Earth or not.

        (B) Eritrea’s GDP growth, according to The World Bank from 2016 through 2019, will trend from 3.9% to about 4.3%. A GDP growth that no one who knows beans about such issues will surely not sneeze at.

        (C) While Ethiopia is the second poorest nation on earth with millions on the verge of hunger and famine and the Ethiopian rulers, as their wont, are on a begging spree, Eritrea has marshalled its meagre resources to self-reliantly feed itself and keep itself dignifiedly out of the BEGGARS CLUB.

        (D) You can’t resist the urge of belittling the water preservations projects using micro-dams, well, I urge you to utilize your and the Mederk’s favorite newfangled tool of Google Earth and take a gander and observe all the greenery surrounding the agricultural projects. No wonder Eritrea is not standing in the lines for handouts.

        (E) You want to see what a real white elephant projects and Potemkin village enterprises, then look no further than the The Qoshe Garbage Mountain landfill in Addis Ababa, relative to the other Weyane projects, that brought the death of hundreds of Ethiopians.

        (F) Eritrea is not only encumbered with the UN imposed sanctions, it has had to grapple with security issues that has to deal with the undeclared war imposed on it by the Weyanes and their handlers. This national security concern is not cheap and Eritrea has to allocate a big chunk of its budget for its national defense.

        (G) While Ethiopia is seething and festering in ethnic conflict, Eritrea is peaceful and secure, which betokens that a bright and prosperous future is in the offing. While Ethiopia’s economic future is bleak Eritrea’s economic revival is just on the horizon.

        • Abraham H.

          Hi Gheteb, you can use your English language mastery and write many beautiful paragraphs, but that doesn’t change the fact on the ground in Eritrea, which is bleak by all standards.

          A) I don’t know from where you got this meaningless information; according to your DIA, though he admits power is of paramount importance he admits the Hirgigo power plant has been left to die for lack of maintenance and he can’t deliver electricity to homes let alone to factories. He said that they have plans for this year to produce 120mw in Hirgigo, and another 80mw from renewables. Well, already one quarter of the year has gone, and it remains to be seen whether his plans are not like his previous empty promises.

          B) Refer to the data that tes linked below, where Eritrea is ranked as 9th poorest, and Ethiopia 21st. Above all look at the miserable standard of life of Eritreans at home whose lives are getting worse by the day.

          C) Eritrea also recieves food and other aid from the outside world; besides not asking for help because one is afraid to damge the ego doesn’t mean millions of Eritreans are not surviving on meagre resources.

          D) Your DIA himself has admitted that these micro-dams have not impacted in the production of food for the country; and the ‘greenery’ that you’re talking about is not that significant. I wonder whether you are looking at the same google earth map as I’m.

          E) Ethiopia is still one of the poorest countries, no doubt about that, and the economic renanaisance has yet to trickle down to the millions of Ethiopians. But the trend is hopeful and the future bright.

          F) The so called UN sanctions are not economical, they are mainly arms embargo, even this seems not to be enforced forcefully when we see a military build up by foreign states inside the Eritrean territory. And the always cited ‘national security issue’ by the regime and its apologists like you is mainly self-imposed, with the aim of creating a police state in order to imprison the Eritrean people.

          G) Yes, Ethiopia is facing challenges regarding the unfair distribution of power between the various ethnic groups, luckily the gov is working on the issue by inviting the opposition parties for talks in order to find out a formula for better representation of people. Eritrea’s internal peace is mainly attributable to the naturally peaceful, and respectful co-existence of the Eritrean peoples.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abraham H.,

            Your interminable hosanna of the tribal military junta is a testament of your exaltation that was spawned by the visit of Dr. Assfaw of Mederk to the Mecca of the Eritrean opposition group, Addis Ababa. After kissing his master’s ring, he told them that the PFDJ was going to fall sometime like September or October of 2016. I guess his Google Earth based analysis was way off by a mile.

            (A) Yes, check with your Mederk sources that electricity is slowly but surely is coming to the lives of Eritreans. The Shanghai Corporation for Foreign Economic and Technological Cooperation (SFECO), the company that built the power is the source of the information and no one else. If you know more or if your Medrek folks have other information, then let me know.

            (B) Regarding where Ethiopia is ranked in terms of poverty, I think a more rigorous analysis is given by OPHI , Oxford Poverty & Human Initiative where Ethiopia is ranked the SECOND poorest nation.

            (C) Sure Eritreans are not rich and many a poor Eritrean lives in that country. Eritrean never boasted of a double digit economic growth nor is it a recipient of billions of dollars in foreign aid. The fact that there is no hunger or famine in Eritrea is a testament to invalidity to all the falsehoods that you, your ilks and others talk about Eritrea.

            (D) Yeah 250 to 300 million cubic meter of water preserved in micro-dams, their impact on Eritrean agriculture and other sectors of the Eritrean economy is going to be huge. And, without the dams Eritrea’s food security would have been in far worse shape.

            (E) Regarding your rosy depiction of Ethiopia, I think you may have another Ethiopia in your mind. You want me to buy that hogwash double digit economic growth is going to trickle down. Tell that to the millions of Ethiopians starving are desperately waiting for international aid, or for that matter, you can tell to the ghosts of the over one hundred dead from the Qoshe trash avalanche.

            (F) If you knew beans about a sanction imposed on a nation affects the country’s economy, you wouldn’t have mouthed that utter blather. Many foreign companies and industries are loath and unwilling to invest in a country that is sanctioned, tout court! I , also, think that you don’t have the slightest inkling the financial impact of the huge defense budget that Eritrea has to earmark for national defense against an undeclared war imposed on it.

            (G) No, sir. You are utterly clueless and you are completely in the dark about the political crisis your beloved Weyane is finding itself these days. Sure, your Weyane is dialoguing with the Ethiopian opposition. But, what you may not be aware is the fact that it has entered this dialogue without any PRECONDITIONS indicating how desperately cornered it is. Simply put, your Weyane is at it’s wits end and is unlikely to escape the impending wrath of the Ethiopian people. What it is doing is that it is trying to buy time, but it won’t work this time.

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            (H) Ghetab is apparently more informed than the president of Eritrea in current issues .

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Gheteb, it is amazing how far you are willing to go to apologise for the failures of your DIA even when he himself admits all the dismal records of his regime’s performances.

            A) I checked your source of info regarding the Hirgigo plant, only info available on the website of SFECO is that dia visited the power plant (November 2016), months before his blatant admission for its failure in front of the Eritrean people.

            B) I checked your OPHI source; yes their recent publication from 2016, ranks Ethiopia second poorest among the inevestigated 113 countries. The Ethiopian data is from 2011, and Eritrea is not included in that report.

            C) Same as I said before

            D) Again listen to what your master dia had to say about this

            E) Poverty is still persistent in Ethiopia, but the wheels of economic emancipation have been set into motion through various infrastructure developments, and power generation plants.

            F) The so-called huge financial burden on defense is a hoax, and the militarization of the Eritrean society is not for defense purposes, rather for enforcing of a terrorising police state. Thanks to its unaccountability, absence of transparency, poor management as evidenced by its own failed projects, absence of rule of law, arbitrary and dubious business practices, its use of slave-like labor, etc, Eritrea has never attracted foreign investment. However, in spite of this, there are a dozen foreign companies manily involved in the mining sector; the only sector with some sign of life albeit its impact in improving the standard of life of Eritreans is non-existent.

            G) Time will show how Ethiopia is to steer away from its current political challenge; as an important neighbor country that is harboring hundreds of thousands of Eritreans who fled the persecution of your god DIA, I wish them success in their endeavor.

  • tes

    Selam Gheteb,

    It is good to see you as a loud speaker of PFDJ. You are just a propaganda outlet. I don’tt know why Awate Admins are keeping you here. You are purposefully misinforming readers.

    Here is my official plea – I will do this as it is against the mission of http://www.awate.com

    1. You are misinforming
    2. You are distorting
    3. You are lying
    4. You are arrogant.

    I am calling for an official ban of Gheteb..

    tes

    • Mez

      Dear Tes,

      I noticed over time the one thing what we are short of is TOLERANCE to entertain ideas. I know Getheb is an outlier to say the least. Even some times he seems to me an impersonated three heads (persons) in one pen name; this is from the way the phrases and paragraphs are combined and their flow synchronizaiton.

      Further, what I noticed is, he is stubborn in learning any new facts; he is shy to come out of his small world of thinking. Under normal circumstances there is no way he can defend MOST OF the day to day activities and policy decissions by the current government of Eritrea. Why? because the policy mistakes done are too aparent to ignore or hide.

      In real terms, the Eritrean govenment is currently facilitating, albite unintentionally, the reapproachment of the Ethiopians and Eritreans. Just one example, the contemporary trend of the European refugy crisis may lead to more job opportunity, for Eritreans, in Ethipia than anywhere else. Europe has a stake on this, the US has, the Eritrean youth will benefit, of course the Ethiopian economy will further prosper. Three things may happpend under this scenario: 1) the Eritrean government will have no legal access to the resources of these youg peoples, and 2) they will be the real challenger fo the Eritrean govement since they are more disillusioned, and dynamic. 3) they will be able to create and retain their welth as never before (this is work in progress…).Their existance as such will give a moderately slow but fatal blow to the PFDJ government.

      How ever hard he may try, the single (or tripple headed) Gheteb can not defend and stop this. Banning Gheteb from this forum would be too human for such , i would say a skewed thinker. Please let him debate, assertively, his way. That is good for the greater common good of the society. had there been such an opportunity like 40 or 50 years ago, we wouldnt be here today.

      My vote: Tumb up for Getheb to be part of this forum.
      Thanks

      • Abi

        I approve your message!

      • Selamat Mez,

        Gheteb possesses a lot more than three heads. Medusa from Greek mythology is more like it. He donned Dread Locks once upon a time and he has abilities to freeze any animate object into stone and vice versa. Gheteb could very well turn out to be Awatista of the Year in 2018.

        tes’s upcoming article is pivotal. He will provide us a perspective to consider to this trend of Ethnic Federalism. I am hoping tes does not neglect the recent GEAN memorandum of understanding, Dawit Mesfin’s recent valuation of the Eritrean Currency Nakfa, Ethiopia’s leanings of what it believes
        will be a better policy on the State of Eritrea. I would also suggest a magnifying glass as the graphics for his article. You can bet Gheteb and this ANT AND Paul Fukuyama and iSEM will be wearing our Sherlock Holmes spectacles inspecting through a magnifying glass— Book suggestion: Kareem Abdul Jabar’s Mycroft Holmes—

        Kareem Abduljabar the UCLA Bruin is one of the great CENTERS, with humble and very sharp Social/Political commentary. A Pillar Weapon known X, if you will.

        The Road to Dembelas.

        tSAtSE

      • Dear Mez,

        There is a new phenomenon happening in europe due to the economic crisis. It is called ‘buying citizenship or citizenship right for the rich’. If you can afford some money and you are ready to invest it in a country’s economy, then you can obtain the right to live in that country with your family. The amount of money required is different for different countries.
        Just, imagine what will happen if ethiopia gives a similar right to eritrean citizens. There are many eritreans with capital who do not know where to invest their money. Ethiopia is a good place. One can guess the number of eritreans who would be queuing at the relevant ministry. Ethiopia could then be the main destination for eritrean capital. Abandoned by all, what remains for dia/pfdj would be nursing their wounded ego, and would even be forced to relinquish power, which could bring a new era of ethio-eritrean friendship and co-operation.

    • sara

      Dear tes,
      this website is Eritrean web site and according the owners rules it entertains all opinions and ideas presented in civil manner, all hate and violent threats and foul language are of-course discouraged even to be banned.
      now as far i know what i read of gheteb he is telling us his point of view kind of supporting the current government, the past eplf the present pfdj . the most important is he believes in Eritrean independence , its revolution and respects all denominations of our multicultural society.
      my question to you is if this website is tolerant enough to host ideas of people( some pretending as eritreans others openly ethiophilis ) who are defaming our revolution, our social fabric and do not recognize our independence and are trashing day in day out eritrean history, culture why do you think this website not to give same level of tolerance to the only few persons in this forum who are presenting us a different side of the Eritrean discussions.
      why do you want us only to hear one sided discussions and you are justice seeker?

      • tes

        Selam sara,

        Gheteb is not giving his opinion he is lying. He is misinforming purposefully. If a lie is an opinion it is ok although I believe that this website is not an instrument to diffuse lies.

        tes

        • sara

          selam Tes,
          if you think he is lying , just say that he is lying., by the same token how do we know others are not lying? how about if i said all what many are saying is all lies and shouldn’t be allowed to bring their ideas/lies here or totally ban them.
          tes, “akhuya” i know you now well and i understand your emotions…. but i think you need to have expanded chest– “wesie sederk” in arabic… this website is becoming by the day not easy for us with fainted hart.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Tes, i don’t know who is talking, if it is you or the usual suspect but never call for anyone to be banned. I know, it is the bottle talking but you are one a hake of liability to the so-called revenge seekers. If awate.com wanted to bun any one, i am sure they don’t want a bottle to tell them what to do. they now what to do.

  • said

    Greeting,
    You are all invited to attend Asmara business Summit to be chaired by IA business class supporters. a brief article the miracle of Eritrea.
    It might not be an exaggeration labeling the majority Eritrean population whose heads of state is truly loved and adored. IA and cohort’s successful business class supporters convening in a grand Summit as show case in the miracle of Eritrean economy to be held end of this month in the Asmara capital as troubled neighbouring states facing all kind of very serious economic, political, security and financial challenges. In this vein, one can even go further labeling some of the ruling regimes and even some of the ruling dynasties as walking a very precarious line with dramatically changing realities that holds no guarantees to the future with fast changing rules of the game, locally and geopolitically. Eritrea is an truly expectation, it a model country the Singapore and Dubai of Africa combined, will come close to Asmara economic, you are all freely invited your ticket is freely payed by Eritrean airlines and your logging at grand Asmara hotel and your food and all expenses is by paid by the host country, the Miracle is all visible for all of to see the moment you arrive at newly build Asmara airport or even if arrive in evening from the air you see the tallest building over 150 floor. Eritrea is attracting investment from all over the world $ 10 billion a month investment and this will have doubled by next year. Eritrean stock exchange (EST) will be the 1th largest in Africa world bypassing south Africa. Please send us y0ur poor and weak and Eritrea is accepting 200,000 refuge a year, any one who is refused any where he or she is automatically is accepted no question asked.
    The gap of mistrust between the Ruled masses and the Rulers in the Africa and horn Africa world never had been that wide. The African masses look at the convening of the Asmara summit in end of this month with total apathy; with zero expectations and in total derision. Same faces, same story, mostly battered rulers whose promises and discourse no more carry any weight.
    Except Eritrea and elected IA for his six times . Rulers in the Africa world are fast losing credibility as some already lost much of their credibility by failing miserably to deliver. The horizons of opportunity and the potentials of economic rewards are fast drying up with bleak prospects looking further into the future, the very near future.
    With near total absence of transparency and accountability, suddenly, many African leaders stand naked with nothing to show. But Eritrea is show biz nation.
    The African has been during the recent years through the worst security, political and economic crises, rather catastrophes that it never experienced in its entire long history. The Ruling regimes, as some were active players bringing these about, never provided tangible remedies, failing to coping with the aftermath of these catastrophes of mostly their doings or attempting to significantly alleviate the plights, sufferings and miseries of the afflicted innocent masses. But not Eritrea ,self reliance and independence of its economy. The flourishing port of Massawa and Asseb excepted to surpass both Singapore and Dubai b year 2018.Third sea port of Zula will be in operation in 2020.
    Replacing Addis as head office of AUO. As to convening in Asmara for a summit, African rulers in nearly their total majority have nothing to offer the African masses in terms of hope for the future; prospects of peace; tranquility and the potentials for improved economic opportunities.

    Rather on the contrary, the supposedly more powerful and more economically and financially able among them, appear more attuned to a new born nation Eritrea, with data and proving record and wi great and successful Eritrean economy .The Administration(PFDJ), the Asmara Administration’s call for to stop continuing regional conflicts and military confrontations that they, the participating Africa countries alone would end up, alone, the rich Eritrea will be footing the bill. However, this, as the coffers of these once rich very corrupted states like Nigeria and Angola and prosperous African countries are fast draining as a result of faulty government decisions and mismanaged economies.
    Other than Eritrea prospers and business friendly and up holding rule of law. democratic Eritrea is a model for the rest of Africa. The absence of democratic institutions and accountability to hold these Africa regimes accountable, only further embolden them to further carry on unabated with wrong policies that would still plunge them into new adventures that would only add to a very worse situation.
    “Political Oppression; Social Injustice; and lack of Economic Opportunities, foremost lack of job opportunities for the youth representing the dominant tranche in the Africa demographics Pyramid and not Eritrean youth with 100 percent job opportunity, the neighbouring countries are coming in droves.
    Economic inequality; Dictatorships; political oppression; and lack of equal opportunities and the prevalent social injustices “Are at the Very Roots of the African Rise of Radicalism finding Expression Radical Movements. Eritrea can show them how to be transformed to modern nation.
    One seriously doubt that the convening African Heads of state in the planned summit in Asmara are considering these reforms a priority to be addressed as they could be incapable in their majority, by their very makeup, to accord these issues the deserving priorities.
    The Great IA is not sure Thus, Summit or No Summit, No One Gives a hoot! only Eritrea miracle and know how he cares about.

    • Mez

      i wish it is.

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas,

    Thought you might find it interesting.

    http://www.portstrategy.com/news101/world/africa/djibouti-expansion-plans

    Money quotes:
    “The Port of Djibouti has unveiled a huge expansion programme which aims to cement the port as a transhipment hub for the whole of Africa.”

    “Djibouti’s new port expansion programme will include work at the Doraleh Multipurpose Port (DMP) which will be upgraded to four terminals for the handling of vehicles and rolling cargoes. The investment, jointly provided by Djibouti Port SA (DPSA) and China Merchant Holding (CMHC) will amount to $590 million.”

    “There will also be a new facility at the Port of Tadjourah mainly for bulk commodities particularly potash an investment amounting to $160 million. The first stage of the new port will become operational by March 2016.”

    “At the Port of Ghoubet there will be a new terminal for the export of salt from Lac Assal with a throughput of 6 million tonnes, constructed for $64 million. Operations will commence in December 2015. A new livestock terminal will be created at Damerjog which will be built with an investment of $70 million and should start operations from the end of 2016.”

    ““We are on a good path and we have a great partner behind us especially Ethiopia and all the other African countries. Djibouti is the Singapore of Africa,” he said. (“He” being the general manager of the port)

    On this idea of Djibouti becoming the Singapore of Africa, Djibouti has what they call Vision 2035, and they reached out to the World Bank for help/advice on implementing it. (See here for details: http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2014/11/05/djibouti-turns-to-its-peers-for-advice-on-reaching-its-goals)

    Interesting: their investments are geared to developing their infrastructure capacities not just to meet Ethiopian needs but really the entire African/continental market. The new railway line from Addis to Djibouti will extend nationwide, and the plans are already in place to connect South Sudan and Kenya. That would put them into a realistic competitive point for serving Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Eastern Republic of Congo and points further west. When one thinks about it, a Chinese ship would rather drop off cargo in Djibouti and put it on a train to Goma (Republic of Congo), than travel around the Cape in South Africa. This realistically means Djibouti is no longer competing with Assab, but with Mombasa.

    In response, Kenya is developing the port of Lamu, again to meet the demand of the Ethiopian market as well as the other Eastern and Central Africa. Ethiopia’s railway spur to Kenya is planned to connect with the line coming from Lamu.

    ” ‘In the next 20 years we would like Djibouti to reach the level of Singapore or Dubai,’ said Youssouf Moussa Dawaleh, President of the Djibouti Chamber of Commerce, ‘we can get there if we work together.’ ”

    The amount of investment in Djibouti infrastructure capacity is simply astounding when considering its physical size and population. When once considers that we are coming up to year 20 of the Badme fallout, it points to what just how short 20 years is.

    Amde

    • Selamat Amde,

      Awesome link! Thanks Pillar X-FAB5

      tSAtSE

      • Amde

        Selam TsaTse,

        You are welcome.

        I hope you also see how complementary this vision is for Ethiopia. Djibouti’s Africa ambition cannot work without the logistical connection Ethiopia provides. On the flip side it is in Ethiopia’s interest that Djibouti is used by many other markets – that means the rules and security will have to be well known, established and rigorously maintained. The cost to Djibouti of running a will nilly approach to its customers will be very high.

        This is literally a win-win.

        Amde

        • Selamat Amde,

          I do see it and more. With Somalia putting its house in order for the Port of Mogadishu will be catching up in no time in facilitating economic activities to and from the entire African Continent. Africa is rising and Black folks of America and all Americans are ready to invest heavily in Africa for REAL GAINS. The AU needs to huddle sooner that later on this and study the speeches, writings, and interview of the Brother Malcolm, Al Malik Al Haj Al Shabbaz— The Known Weapon X!

          tSAtSE

          • Mez

            Dear GitSAtSE,

            Somalia is actually going along with Ethiopia, under the given circumstance, for the time being on trade; Somalia is number one destination for Ethiopian commodity since last year or so. Djibouti and Somalia combined are importing close to 1bln value commodities from Ethiopia. With Electricity now on the way to export, this can easily jump to double or triple figure in the next 3-5 years.
            thanks,

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Amde,

      If the idea of expanding of infra-structure in the continent of Africa is to expand trade and transform the economic life of its people, it will not be late to create another railway infra-strucure from Asseb through northern Ethiopia and Sudan, all the way to West Africa – after the removal of our despot. So in short the projects in Dijibouti should be welcomed, because if the trans-African railway isn’t from Eritrea, it should start from somewhere. And it become from Dijibouti as the project shows. The progress should continue even if it is hindered from Eritrea. Thank you for the link.

      Regards

      • Amde

        Selam Amanuel,

        You don’t know how sad I felt for Semere when he responded to me by essentially saying “what are we to do – you want to destroy us”. The mentality behind it is still that the port is a precious commodity that has to be protected at all costs from its only user.

        The connection to Assab or any other port would be a simple matter to do – IF there was peace and agreement. It is never too late.

        Meles has talked about the port of Ti’o to use for Potash export (in an interview with SalehJ I think). Right now Djibouti is building the Tadjourah port primarily for Potash export, but the railway link is supposed to also connect to Semera (the capital of Afar state) and from there to Weldiya. The Weldiya juncture then will connect the Meqele, Gonder and most of the northern Ethiopian market. The port of Tadjourah and the rail link to it are essentially being set up to take over Massawa’s traditional role as the port for the North.

        Technically speaking, Eritrea can focus on the Massawa port and see if it can extend it out to Sudan and connect to the Sahelian interior that way. It doesn’t even have to compete with Djibouti or even Asseb. But that needs a lot of money and diplomacy before it becomes a feasible project.

        It’s a good thing.

        Amde

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Amde,

          Here is the interview you mentioned:
          http://awate.com/awate-com-interview-meles-zenawi-sizes-up-the-region/

          On Djibouti, it is not noble to wish your neighbors bad luck, I wish Djibouti all the best. But I feel very sad that for the opportnity cost that Eritrea lost. Isaias has been like a coach who would make you start a running race too late and promise you he will inject in you some divine stamina, and regardless, you will win at last. Eritrea has been left behind because of the crazy coach.

          • Amde

            Selam SalehJ,

            Thank you for the link.

            To be honest, Djibouti’s vision has also opened my eyes. If Ethiopia had retained Assab, I don’t think we would have been inclined to give much thought to the opportunities in regional integration. We are a bit of a insular people, and that would have reinforced our insularity.

            Yes the opportunity cost is staggering. The Badme real estate must be one of the most expensive in the world. Saay always made the point about how hard it is for guerillas with military mind set to adjust to the norms of civilian life. This is a textbook case.

            Amde

          • Amde

            Selam SalehJ

            I read the interview again. It is so interesting, especially in light of what has happened over the last year.

            But you know what I enjoyed most?

            PMMZ: “This is not by design but because your president is not infatuated with international organizations of any sort.”
            SGJ: “Ok. Now, he has never been my president…sorry for the correction Mr. Prime Minister….”

            Hahaha…

            Did he laugh?

            Amde

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Amde,

            He just smiled and let it go but later on during the chit-chat, he remarked, “I didn’t mean to offend you…” We talked about a host of things and I was amazed how up to date he was on what is written on the Internet. About a month earlier I had written this article: http://awate.com/what-ethiopian-eritreanfriendship/ and before we started the interview he said to me, “I read your last article, you make a compelling argument…” I asked him why would a PM read our articles? and he said something to the effect, “ideas spread and influence people, I have to keep abreast with what is preoccupying the people–I do that regularly….[bleep, to early to read memoir stuff 🙂 ]

          • Amde

            Hi SalehJ,

            Another fine piece.

            Interesting he followed up with issues as articulated on the internet.

            And a good example of why I say we are inextricably linked.

            I was laughing at your taxi cab story. Now then, your USD100 Taxi fare from Bole to Hilton must have been a godsend to the guy, but how the man sized you up and decided to demand it must be another article as well. That was exorbitant, and he probably spent close to zero on gas on his trip back to Bole since half of it is just downhill.

            But, I thank you – it was 1991 and you helped a brotha out.

            Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            I did not read the interview yet. I’m saving it for Sunday morning. A fresh start with a juicy interview.

          • Amde

            Abiti,

            Interview is great. I don’t know if he actually started the interview asking him about Ethiopian bread and butter issues, but that is how it is written.

            It’s good, don’t want to spoil it for you.

            Amde

          • tes

            Selam Abi,

            For sure you have spoiled it. Why you did this to Abi? His Eritrean wife will not make a coffee for him now.

            tes

          • Amde

            Hi Tes,

            Well, I think Abi will have to rely on his charms for coffee.

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            You know me well.
            “አፍ ያለው ጤፍ ይቆላል”

          • Legacy

            Hi Saleh Johar,

            Just curious:

            Was the interview conducted in tigrigna ? Also, Did you have to run by him before you published it ?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Legacy,
            It was not conducted in Arabic, for sure 🙂

            It was conducted in English to make it easy for publishing, and void misrepresentation or misquote in the process of translation. The late Meles was magnanimous and accepted my request to have it in English, but before and after the interview, we talked in the good old Tigrinya language. The same applies to my other interview with him.

            No, I didn’t run it by anyone before publishing–I have rejected many interviews because some individuals requested that they check the material before publishing–that is a no-no, the policies of awate.com doesn’t allow it and I will never do that. Meles didn’t ask or even imply he wanted to check it before publishing, and for that he won my respect–less important people had asked me run their interviews by them before publishing.

          • Legacy

            Hi Saleh Johar,

            Thanks. Great interview.

            I am in the hospitality profession and the ‘occupancy building strategies’ he was alluding to is very illuminating:)

          • tes

            Selam Legacy,

            It is good you asked this question. I thought it was just a provocation. I was wrong. It gave us something worth to read.

            Thank you.

            tes

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Amde and others,

          If an indifferent observer were to review the discussions of the forumers in the framework of this thread, save those who stubbornly try to defend indefensible, would not fail to sort out real indicators that tell us that the future of the countries of the Greater Horn shall be determined not by wars and isolationism but by diplomacy that would facilitate cross border economic cooperation and integration. The clue for such a conclusion arises from the diversity of the commenters, and the civility of their way of exchanging views.

          The Djibouti-Ethiopia is an informing specimen that Eritrean patriots would envy. Our resource scarce, but endowed with favorable geopolitical position and resourceful population should have been a pioneer in such regional cooperation and mutually beneficial cross border projects such as roads and railways. It hurts us when we see how our people were duped to believe that the blood and sweat they invested for independence shall also cover the cost of freedom and liberties under rule of law and just government.

          It is important to note at this point that the way to the process of economic cooperation and eventually integration will have to path through the peoples of those countries becoming able to shake off the burden of progress and openness curtailing systems of governances. This cannot be realized unless the peoples of those nations would realize the crucial role of solidarity on side of peoples under despotism to set themselves free because peace, stability and good governance in one country is an economic asset for the rest of the countries in the region. Only free people would connect with their counterparts because they will be guided by enlightened and open-minded rulers as opposed to egocentric and power hungry tyrants like the one we have in our country.

          Regards

          • Amde

            Selam IsmailAA,

            What is sad is that it doesn’t even require a government that is “democratic” or from elections or anything like that. It just requires not to be a bonehead. And be a bit greedy for some dough – you know. But no, they want a monopoly, not for commercial reasons but for purely political and powermongering reasons.

            The paradox is that Ethiopia fought for so many years for Assab and the Red Sea, thinking that it was a do-or-die national interest. 25 years after Ethiopia has moved on, Eritrea is still run by people that actually believe that yes indeed these Ethiopians were right after all Asseb is do-or-die for Ethiopia. Note how every one of the detractors are talking about how Ethiopians are never ever going to be at Assab. It is really strange.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Made,
            Future cooperation and integration is a terrain viable to free citizens and government that they install as opposed to jingoist-populist minded elites on both sides of the border. One who does not learn from how Western Europe was before the WWII and now, is terribly opaque to sense of history. The future generations of the peoples of the Horn and beyond have more to do with one themselves rather than against one another. Thus, I won’t build on the views of some diehard elements that stubbornly support regimes right or wrong.
            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Amde,

            One of the successes of Meles and his colleagues in the last 25 years is, to change the psychology of Ethiopian mind, the “do-or-die for the Eritrean ports”- the most difficult one. They showed to the Ethiopian people many alternative options, that Indeed the Ethiopian economy will survive and develop without the Eritrean ports. That success in itself will bring the elements of peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea in the near future, after the demise of the despot. The Ethiopian-Djibouti transportation infra-structures, the Ethiopian-Sudanese interstate highways, the Ethiopian-Kenyan interstate highways are the new alternative opportunities for trade and commerce that removes the fears of economic strangulation. So Ethiopia has proved that it could survive and develop without the Eritrean port. Winning the psychology of their people was very crucial for Melds and his colleagues, they did and changed it for ever. I hope Eritrea will join soon in the interstate economic development of our region.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Gheteb,
    Thank you for your attempt but your answer sounds similar to the answers that we are too familiar to: there were apologists for the King and the Derg rule when selfless Eritreans were fighting for justice and freedom. This is the same apology that some people make in defending the pre-independence systems that ruled Eritrea. I can safely guess you are aware of that. If not, Saleh Younis can provide you with some links, he keeps good records of links and references. Too bad, I just depend on memory which I realize could be faint at times.

  • Brhan

    Hello commentators,
    Asseb port is not the only example of PF(JD) policies’ failures. The number of Eritrean business persons who are fleeing Eritrea is worrying. Some of the business persons that I met told me that they went so far to work challenging the many unfair business tactics that PF(JD) played against them but at last they found out that they can not do business with a Mafia government . These persons were hiring many employees who were helping their families and providing products and services to the people. The chocked private businesses in Eritrea is another topic that need a coverage

    Thanks

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Brhan,

      You say:

      ” … the many unfair business tactics that PF(JD) played against them but at last they found out that they can not do business with a Mafia government”.

      What are “the many unfair business tactics the PF(JD)”? Can you enumerate them even based on hearsays? And, why have you failed to present the whole picture here if these business haven’t run afoul the basic rule by following practices such as not speculating, not hoarding or not price gouging. I mean try to present all sides of a story instead of just telling one version of it.

      • Peace!

        Selam ‘Gheteb,

        It is not a secret that people are fleeing the country in masses and the reason is obviously because of the ongoing injustice, no economic opportunity, and sadly enough no future. If you are seriously asking for evidence, it is a shame that you are not aware of what the ordinary Eritreans are going through given that you care and love the country more than anybody else. The evidences (testimonies) are out there if you care to reach out, if not, just listen to the latest DIA’s woulda coulda shoulda interview. The guy graded himself an “F” for God sake.

        Peace!

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam Peace!,

          You say:

          ” … no economic opportunity, and sadly enough no future. If you are seriously asking for evidence, it is a shame that you are not aware of what the ordinary Eritreans are going through…”.

          No economic opportunity in Eritrea? Are you kidding me here? How then is one to explain Eritrea’s economic vitalities be it in the State, parastatals, private business (medium sized) to small business owners and street vendors of cereals and vegetables. My friend, repeating what is oft-repeated propaganda style soundbites are not what I fall for.

          I know many small business owners who have been conducting their businesses and earning their livelihood playing by the same basic business rules. Those who are into speculations and want to greedily conduct their business, well, bad luck that ain’t going to cut it with ShaEbia.

          Sure Eritrea’s economic milieu is not propitious for investment and free and open market yet due to many reasons.

          To say that the evidence is out there and just listen to PIA’s recent interview to believe that Eritrea’s economy has failed and earned an F grade is simply disingenuous and utterly inaccurate.

          Given what Eritrea has been through the past 15 to 20 years, the simple fact that the Eritrean economy didn’t collapse — actually it is reviving — is, in and of itself, something that only few countries like Eritrea can achieve.

          So Peace! repeating what is commonly mouthed by all the anti-PFDJ elements and their handlers doesn’t mean that one is objectively and truthfully is speaking about. The axe grinding coming from these anti-Eritrean corners is quite deafening and that you have an axe to grind here is not lost to me.

          • Peace!

            Selam ‘Gheteb,

            My mom used to tell me “ሒጂስ ጨው ሲኢንካ” when I do too much fun out of almost everything. First of all I didn’t say the country has collapsed and second, to me it is not about opposing or supporting the government rather it is about the principle I hold. Now, the reason why you are losing the debate is simply because the truth is not on your side and more importantly your defense of the regime lacks moral ground. What’s even more ironic is that you are defending DIA more than himself… at least he occasionally admits mistakes and gives hope to his poor people….ጉድለታት የለን ክባሃል ኣይካኣልን እዩ ደሓር ካኣ እቲ ዶሮና ዝግ ምስ በለ ኣድማስና ናብ ዝኾዶ የብሉን lol.

            Peace!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Peace!,

            Say all you want about “losing a debate” or “having no moral ground” and you can offer all the platitudes and all the sayings and proverbs that your mind can muster. That doesn’t add even a dab to the points you are trying to make. Remember this is not an Awllo or a Qine competition.

            Hating “DIA” is one thing, providing a cogent and plausible argument quite another. You have failed to provide a convincing counter-narrative to prove your point of view and here you are reeling off a hackneyed and trite anti-PFDJ regurgitations.

            In my book, such takes as is coming from your side is not a persuasive argument and you have not made your case

          • Peace!

            Selam ‘Geteb,

            There is no case to make here rather it is just ወላ ትንፈር ጤል እያ argument. I am just testifying on bahalf of my family members, relatives, friends, including yours just in case you have’t reached them out, and many other helpless Eritreans, and yes in your eyes they are lairs and they just hate DIA that’s why. I think there is no reason to go any further, lets just work on things we agree.

            Peace!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Peace,

            You can speak and testify on your behalf and those who have assigned that role. Say, according to what happened to me, to my family, relatives, friends because of “DIA” injustices and no economic opportunities and you don’t even have to offer any further explanation. That will only make your side of the story and nothing else.

            Many of my relatives in Eritrea own small businesses and I have yet to hear a deliberate attempt by the Government Of Eritrea under the leadership of His Excellency President Isaias Afwerki interfering in conducting their businesses LEGALLY and ETHICALLY. You bet that I am in a constant touch with them.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Gheteb,
            I would like to express my happiness that all your relatives are doing fine and they are not complaining about the governance… but are you sure of that? Are you really serious? Do you have relatives in jail, for example? Do you have relatives who escaped the PFDJ hell? Do you have relatives who cannot visit their home? Do you have relatives whose homes are occupied by strangers?

            Gheteb, if you do not have any of the above, you are one of two things: 1) a clone, and 2) I do not want to spell it out. Please remember there are people here reading your wild denials.

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            I asked Nitric a question and for reasons I don’t know he skipped it totally. So, I am wondering if you can answer it for me. Though, I DO NOT AGREE with your Eritrean Political leanings, presuming you do have one, your are among the top in this forum, in answering every question someone asks you. Even if it is perceived as spin, it does provide insight to the problems and solutions for it.
            My second question is optional, I do insist an answer for the first one.

            1. Under the lease agreement between the UAE and GOSE, are there any restrictions put on UAE to do business and trade with any specific country say Djibouti, Somalia, or Ethiopia for example?

            2. Father Zeizer place? Can you tell me again who resided in that building that had a horrible experience in Halewa Sewra when he was imprisoned there? (Here you will have to resort to tSAtSE language from the school of Petros Solomon Bgd72.– it could be the King Salmon, Trout and Sockeye Salmon I just caught on the Columbus river, BUT I SMELL A rfISH. it could also be my upper lip.)

            My preference of is The Gurguur spin of the Aarkobkobay AAkat. The yo yo stings attached by the majority here is quite frankly boring! You and I did spend quite a few tours of duty in the same fox hole. And mannnn did weeee light ’em up. ahhh it could be my imagination too.

            Thanks in advance for qn1 and hopefully more Gheteb-E9

            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tsa Tse,

            Thank you for the input/feedback. Let me try to answer the queries you have posed.

            (1) I am not sure if there is an actual lease agreement between the UAE and the GosEr per se. There may be some agreements between the two countries, but the major agreement is between the GCC countries and Eritrea were Eritrea has agreed to many security/military co-operations.

            I don’t think that there is any restriction put on the UAE to do business or other joint operations with other countries in the region. The UAE is in a process of setting up a naval base in the Somali land and I think it has a diplomatic relations with Ethiopia. With Djibouti, the UAE has severed its diplomatic relations.

            (2) Hints in solving the Father Zeizer’s Place mystery as to who has lived there and where the ANT (ጻጸ) used to ‘creep’.

            First think of the word ክፍሊ (room) in Tigrigna and then think how you would say ” their room” in Tigrigna. This will give you the name of those who lived in that apartment at Father Zeizer’s Place.

            After the ANT has crept to the apartment, usually after his high school classes and sometimes skipping class to see a certain someone in that apartment, if by any chance the man of the apartment named “their room” were to show up unannounced, then the ANT would have had hid inside a closet.

            I have given you so much clues and hints for you to decipher the mystery. Let me know if you solved the ‘puzzle’.

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            You could have skipped the second one dude! I said it was optional.

            Sami Berhane “Kokhob Awalid anti weHale….” Come on mannn Every body has that video of the ANT Rocking the crowd with DJ Red Alert on BLS.

            On question one also. IA lead Eritrea is weak as far as Bob Marley’s Africa Unite!!! or “How can you be sitting there telling me that you care that you care. This is SURVIVAL THE BLACK SURVIVAL!”

            You know damn well the ANT is A BLACK MAN FIRTS!

            You have always been a Fast Tracker in any doors opened for you. Try and strive for FAB5 Staring as as a shooting guard.

            Amde is a great center whose academic expertise is Finance. In this forum the two of you playing in the same court, it would be like marrying Money and Money to breed Socially Responsible Investments and its Twin Grace.

            You always are asking for the narrative from awatistas. I agree. Convince me to stay and not migrate… I will be launching soon. Talk to Amde now Gheteb.

            Try again and respond this time with Hari+Man And Arsenio’s last name suffix.

            tSAtSE

            Would you like another try?

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            I thought i knew you well enough. Do you recall your Gurgurr! the KfliROOM was way to easy dude. I am talking about a Certain Base of Operation in Debre Bizen and Halewa Sewra. Tell me again Gheteb.

            A Hairy Man on Arsenio late night show. A Hairy man is A hairy man “A hungry man is a hungry man, A LOT OF FOOD, and the Food not enough” “Chase those crazy bump heads….”

            Can you try again.
            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tsa Tse,

            Come back Tsa Tse. Please do add more hints and clues about what you are asking. Need more pointers. Otherwise, ‘Gheteb is ready to share narratives a la Chap.n Hall. Maybe I am forgetting something so the ANT’s intervention is sorely needed here.

          • MerHaba Gheteb,

            I hope MaHmuday “The Best” SaliH is reading us and smiling while shaking his head.

            Further hint for you old friedn:

            I am beta testing to launch a few products and this website and forever sacred forum holds me back somewhat. It is like when I gradguated from Adam Clayton Powel Jr. HS and from my Manhattan Ctr. for Science and Mathematics HS, in Spanish Harlem, a group of us would go back to 129th and Amsterdam to the JHS…….

            When I asked Mr. Dawit Mesfin a question, Aya Ismael AA said to me, “Dawit is saying “abb zey semAAka debri aytmahlel.”
            1. And so now with the resurrection of Somalia under the leadership of Abdulahi “Frmajo: MoHamed, what says you about bringing back Swahili as the Official African Language, JUMBO AFRICA*
            2. What do you think about the demand from the African Union an African Passport for all Diaspora of African ancestry? Like African Americans, GB’s Queesn Subjects, recent immigrants and first, second etc.. .generation Black Folks?

            Qn. 2 is optional but please do not skip..run with it!

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc

            Hey Tsaste; you know I have ADD 🙂 what was the question? Sorry obviously i missed it. My bad.

          • Hi Nitric,

            The same I asked Gheteb and I will add to just a bit to it now.

            Amde thinks that after the GCC war on Yemen ends, and I pray sooner that later, Aseb Port may very well go through another deep recession. If you or Gheteb are privy to the entirety of the agreement, would the GCC or UAE be restricted to trade with Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somalia, Kenya?

            This time let us drop proxy wars and think about proxy trading in commodities and manufactured goods? Trade makes every body better off, doesn’t it? You see, Brhan raised the same question about Eritrean business people leaving in droves.
            Gheteb’s response was excellent but short of a significant sentence or two. Haile S. E9 will add it.

            Can you inquire into my question above. Thanks.

            tSAtSE

          • Haile S.

            Hi Xaxe,
            Thank you for the promotion on the E- scale. But I am not sure on completing my initiation.

          • Selamat Haile S.

            I am Old School. First impression is all it takes some times. You are ready! DaHdaHayo Ajokha. Leave caution to the wind.

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc

            Hey Tsatse; The day i heard President trump saying that he is tired of America taken advantage of that very statement gave me he has no idea how politics work. on the same token, the Ethiopians will always think what ever business of trade Eritrea try to do, they are going to assume Eritrea is taken advantage of them. Under this kind of Ethiopians mentality Eritrea doomed to do any kind of business or trade with Ethiopia. Accordingly it was the right move for Eritrea to opt for different options. I really believe to lease Assab for UAE was the right thing to do. I got believe for UAE to agree on a long term deal must have some kinds of plan to turn Assab to a long term business out late. like you have said, the Yemen thing will be over sooner than latter. i.e. it is easier for Ethiopians to deal with Arabs than the Eritreans. And i believe, once Assab is refurbished and ready to go the Ethiopians and the UAE will make a deal for Ethiopians to use Assab. I don’t think Ethiopians have any other choice but to deal with UAE in using the port. The saddest part is, Ethiopians could have much better deal in dealing with Eritreans than with Arabs. But since the Ethiopian mentality is Eritreans are out to get them and take advantage of them they will happily deal with Arabs and Eritrea going sit back and collect the money. I don’t see in any foreseeable future that Eritrea and Ethiopia conducting business but through UAE will be getting done. at the end of the day Economics dictates. in my opinion Assab is going to be one of the most vibrant port in the horn of Africa. say what you will but UAE is the most business oriented of any Arab countries. We got a deal my friend.

          • Hi Nitricc,

            Suppose that the customer does not want the product, what are going to do? You are dreaming of sitting back and collecting millions without considering if the customer would agree or not. The only income you can get is if the uae wants to continue to pay for a redundant seaport, after the mission in yemen is over. It is possible, because they still have enough petrodollars to throw away.

          • Amde

            Hi Nitricc,

            DP World runs Djibouti port.

            http://web.dpworld.com/our-business/marine-terminals/middle-east-europe-africa/djibouti-doraleh/

            Who is DP World? I am glad you asked.

            http://web.dpworld.com/about-dp-world/board-of-directors/

            Yeah, UAE.

            So you think UAE is going to develop another port to compete with another UAE run port?

            That is how Trump kept losing money in Atlantic City. He kept opening casinos to compete against his existing casinos.

            I would actually want UAE to develop Assab. The switching cost for Ethiopia is negligible between Assab and Djibouti if Assab had the capacity. A port that gives healthy competition to Djibouti is to be welcomed. That would cut costs for us.

            Realistically, Assab will be third choice after Djibuti/Doraleh, and Tadjourah.

            There are a couple other ports being developed as well: Port of Ghoubet for exporting salt, and at Damerjog specializing in livestock.

            If these progress and expand, Assab has the opportunity to be the fifth choice.

            All these are active projects. Not theoretical. They are fundamentally backed by the assurance of an existing primary customer who is willing to do business, i.e. Ethiopia. No such guarantee exists for Assab, so it makes no sense for UAE to spend money on a phantom. They will do what they need to berth their few naval ships, and when the war with Yemen ends, it will just be a small naval post. Otherwise, it is in their commercial interest NOT to invest in another port that will directly compete against their existing interest.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi AMDE; if it true UAE supposedly signed for a long term lease. I guess is UAE have a long term plan to control that whole area. Besides, if i open one business, it does not mean i won’t expand to different area. I don’t know for a fact but i am guessing that UAE have a grand plan for the area. however; it is not Eritrea’s business what they do with it. Just like you renting your apartment what you do inside your house is not the landlord’s business as long as you pay your rent.

          • tes

            Selam Gheteb,

            You said,

            “…a deliberate attempt by the Government Of Eritrea under the leadership of His Excellency President Isaias Afwerki interfering in conducting their businesses LEGALLY and ETHICALLY.

            Of course the government of Eritrea, aka PFDJ regime, does deliberate attempt in conducting business legally and ethically. This is not a secret and is what people do not like at all about PFDJ.

            I am happy today as you* confirmed three very important accusations by the public:

            1. There is always a deliberate interference by PFDJ to the business – whatever size it is. And this is what is called, “Controlled Economy”. The government interferce in each and every business activity.

            2. It is good to confrim accusations against DIA, as you like to call it, His Excellency President Isaias Afwerki, for his personal involvement even in small family business. This indicates DIA knows every small business owners – an accusation by COiE for widespread surveillance and absence of freedom as government officials are know who is who in person.

            3. It is good to know that DIA gives direct legal and ethical directives by personally reaching small businesses. Whatever legal or ethical business is, this tells the degree of personalization business. There is no national legal framework a,d ethics of conducting business. DIA has to reach personally and interfer deliberately to give his own legal and ethical directives. And this is what is called – absence of business ethics and legal issues or the people are not aware what they have to do.

            And in Economics, this type of government controlled, tightly controlled, at personal level and with direct interference in the daily business activitiy is Natioanalized State Business.

            Who knows who families are agents of PFDJ. I know many – many who do business while doing their security works. Who else can conduct business unless DIA knows you personally.

            Don’t think we don’t know this. There are business people who are necoming richer and richer by allying themselves with PFDJ.

            If they are in Keren, I think I know some. I hope they are not among them.

            tes

            *But you are here trying to develop a deliberate misguiding, as usual, your propaganda, by injecting your family case as if it is a positive one.

          • iSem

            Gheteb:
            True, Peace should not testify on behalf of your family and relatives, because you know they have not being impacted by IA’s policy.
            Now have you considered the possibility that there is some flaw, some disability in ur family’s DNA that is plaguing it. Assuming what u said about the fact that they are doing well, maybe all are subservient of a dictator, so maybe we should understand you and defend you by reason of insanity or disability, it is a well established cogent, potent defense for any crime and what you are doing here is crime.

        • blink

          Dear peace
          Where have u been ? Well people like Gheteb do not see that way. They are ok or may be waiting for the dictator to change course . I have been trying to tell such people that , their man is stacked there and he willing never change .The man is just a manipulative creature and that is a good chance for the southerners. Most southerners are happy to see us bleed to death as they assure themselves that they have die hard PFDJISTA to entertain them.The heavy lifting is on all Eritreans with good intentions, until now we have the ethnic federalist and criminals hidden in the name of oppositions. The dictator is hanging on his ability plus the wish of EPRDF.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Blink,

            Given the prevailing conditions in Eritrea what would you have done differently than the one that you are mindlessly bellyaching about. Running an economy in nascent nations that are involved in nation building is no walk in the park.

            Now do you mind sharing what you have been trying to tell people like ‘Gheteb about the Eritrean economy and “the dictator”?

          • blink

            Dear Gheteb
            Let’s leave the word JUSTICE because that is the only thing I care and see the man in a mirror. When the president deals with a problem by sweeping it under the rug or by creating another terrible one and people like you lecturing us how he managed to do it , I will be in short of reasonable doubt to make you agree with me.I don’t have the ability to make you understand ,we are in the opposite direction and I do not believe it is helpful for me to state my wish about , kind of economic policy . But to list some
            1.Your man hold all Eritreans in an open prison for long time by that , over 10% of the population is out side the country plus so many horrible memories to tell
            2. He dumped the constitution and declared he doesn’t want even to say constitution
            3. His economic policies make the young slave labor of the state yet hungry family at home
            4. He chocked the main dream of Eritreans to live in Eritrea and have a future .
            The list can go on and on and my advice will be demolishing them. Weyane and America are not the reason he did this nor does he believe it is a winning strategy. We could have been in a better place would he listen to go by the Eritreans wish but he doesn’t.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Blink,

            I was expecting that you would tell me how you would run the Eritrean economy much differently and much efficiently than what “DIA” “my man” for the past years. Want to give another try, Blink?

          • blink

            Dear Gheteb
            I have given you in numbers , from one to four. I would have reversed all these PFDJ policies. More importantly I wouldn’t be reality challenged. I call issiass many names one of them was bureauclast , you know the group is just full of kleptocracy and I don’t believe I will be such.

          • Selamat Blink,

            May I suggest that you address all Eritreans on the specifics of policy changes GOSE should entertain for change immediately. Don’t address PE IA. Provide me with Ten bullets, less if you like, that the State of Eritrea should make. Consider the readiness of all Eritreans to push for these specific changes they would be willing to pressure the government. Veer far from the “Change of Regime” themes. You will be pleasantly surprised on how Gheteb would respond to such.
            tSAtSE

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            Lock and Load. Gold!

            tSAtSE

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            No sir.

            People like Gheteb believe Eritreans have deformed identities and so they deserve the evil treatment by Isayas. You note how Gheteb defends anything and everything Isayas does. It is because he believes Eritreans deserve the punishment doled out by Isayas.

            Amde

          • Selamat Amde,

            Gheteb has always been a tough nut to crack. But a special custom made Gurgurr AAkaat is being prepared for him as he has just been promoted to E9 classification. He is as tough of a nut to crack as the AAkaat CORE. It looks like a nut but it is really a seed.

            Blink’s points are what Ethiopian Political leaders should really consider into studying scientifically. The chipping away with propagandists of the paid kind, and the carrot or starvation kind for the last fifteen years is analogs to Northern Ethiopia’s drought and the images of Emperor Haile Slassie feeding his lions choice cut steaks and gored gored as well as The Israeli treatment of creating a Ghetto and extremely unbalance response and over all treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza and European Jews genocide footage– both viewed side by side in a split screen.

            What thinks you Sir Pillar X. Is it Nature or Nurture that influences the powerful elite in both Eritrea and Ethiopia?

            tSAtSE

          • iSem

            Hi Tsatse:
            No, Gheteb is not a touch nut do ur equation again.
            He is a liar, delusional and only gets pleasure by associating with the strong man. Once he agreed with me when I said, PFDJ supporters are either regional or have some interest or are stupid.
            And he is not as learned as he sounds, all superficial, but you are not privy to that, I am, I am friends with his classmates, I know who he is, and his name and his relatives

          • Selamat iSEM,

            I will add your given variables of the time “once” but I have have quite a lot more variables. It is a 10
            by Ten matrices with upper echelon method.
            Will you be a Kudus Ghiorgis or Enda Mariam for the Claylayson? I will be in Toronto and could peak and could join you to do my 10Gs of claylayson as perscribed? 🙂
            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tsa Tse,

            I want to see your reaction to the one recited mostly on the bus heading to the main campus from the other one.

            ጎምዳየ ኣንታ ኮርዒዳ ጎምዳ
            ውዒልካ ዶ ኣብቲ ክትዓት ናይ ማሕበር ልዕለ-ምሩቃት
            ውዒለወ ደው ኢለ ተኻቲዔ ንብዙሓት ኣእምነ
            መደርኩባ ኣብታ ኣደርሽ ኣበልኩ ንጸላእተይ ኣላሽ

            ኣማን ብኣማን ሃብሮም ውዒልካ ገናዕ ዝዓርከይ ሃበኒ ኢድካ

            ጎምዳየ ኣንታ ኮርዒዳ ጎምዳ
            ውዒልካ ዶ ኣብቲ ክትዓት ናይ ማሕበር ተማሃሮ ልዕለ-ምሩቃት
            ደው አልካ ከተቅርብ ምልክታ ንሙቃም ማሓበር ምትሕጋጋዝ ተማህሮ ኤርትራውያን
            ውዒለወ ደው ኢለ ተኻቲዔ ንብዙሓት ኣእምነ
            ተመስረተት አወ እታ ኩላትና ንፈልጣ ማሕብር

            ኣማን ብኣማን ሃብሮም ውዒልካ ገናዕ ዝዓርከይ ሃበኒ ኢድካ

            ጎምዳየ ኣንታ ኮርዒዳ ጎምዳ
            ጎምዳየ ኣንታ ጎይታ ካልኩላስ ጎምዳ
            ጎምዳየ ኣንታ ጎይታ ማሃንድስነት ጎምዳ
            ጎምዳየ ኣንታ ጎይታ ኣክችውርይ ጎምዳ
            ዓቅምኻ ይብለጽ ካብ ናይ በዓል ኣምደን እቲ ሰመረ ዓንዶም ዕደ

            ኣማን ብኣማን ሃብሮም ውዒልካ ገናዕ ዝዓርከይ ሃበኒ ኢድካ

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            slezi AHwat itti Habar RoQaHi naayy Habbar EEyyonann tSaErinann yAAbbi. Read my notes to Mr. Pedantic Paul. Best 6th man spot is now up for grabs as Mr. Fukuyama is not showing up for practice lika IA–err AI for Allen Iverson. Jumbo Sana, Missouri Sana. Yemane Wedi Fray Kuait dash dash dash..
            I meant to say AAsh AAsh AAsh… 35Cent coffee on me, Frmajo will be buying,
            tSAtSE

          • Aron

            Hi iSem,
            The man gheteb has offered you cash reward to expose who he is and you have been saying you know who he is for long time. Put up or —. Aron

          • Hey iSEM,

            you wavering back and forth here. Are you okay? I did that equation and I had come up with the Top of the class race valekditraorian (I was never in the chase, and can’t spell it..) I know you know him. It does not make him a liar. Sorry pal, your word is not enough. Because I know him for a lot longer period of time! Brilliant Dude ain’t he?
            tSAtSE

          • Amde

            Selam TsaTSe,

            The jury is still out on Gheteb, but I would say he is more of the simple nut rather than the tough nut variety.

            I carefully read through blink’s comment. He says well-intentioned Eritreans have to do the heavy lifting (I agree) but he then adds ethnic federalists and criminals as part of the heavy burden these well-intentioned Eritreans have to lift.

            I don’t think it is fair to lump ethnic federalists with criminals. Ethnic federalists are part of the Eritrean political scene and will be so for the foreseeable future. One can look at the Afar and Kunama refugees in the different Ethiopian camps and know that they are primarily a result of PFDJ policies especially since independence.

            There really is not much that I can see the Ethiopian government can do to change the status quo. It does not want a failed state to the north. Basically, things are in Isayyas’ hands. Personally, I don’t expect a policy change from Eritrea without a regime change, and I don’t expect regime change without some blood. Sorry – but that is how I see it. Derg was fighting all of its 17 years. I don’t see any sign of insurgency in Eritrea. Eritreans who can, leave, and those who stay, just endure.

            I don’t think your example of a ghetto is fair. What ghetto are you referring to, and how is it Ethiopia’s fault?

            In any case, I am genuinely curious to know what you specifically want the Ethiopian government to do. . A couple of months ago you were asking Ethiopia to build the wall so young Eritreans won’t come in. Still they come, and those that can, live normal lives among the civilian population.

            Honestly, what else can the Ethiopia side do?

            Amde

          • Selamat Amde,

            I would say it is actually a lot and a lot and a lot more than just the PFDJ policy. What we have had in Eritrea the past 25 years and the results now including the Afar and Kunama refugees. Try Nietzsche’s Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks. ( I am still editing Thucydides for EPMD (Where in the World is Saay7, Paul Fukuyama and Carmen Sandiego these days when they are most needed! ;)… don’t tell me doing interviews on Nikolodian)

            I agree. It is not fair to lump Ethnic Federalists with criminals. There are criminals in all of the political views proponents. Ms. Hyatt Adam is matching well with Blink. They are both politicians. I am more of Gains/Losses Finance leaning dude. In da hood we say: “If it don’t make money, it don’t make sense.” yes it it doesn’t make scents it doesn’t make sense. And then Pink Floyd creeps with “Money is the root of all evil.”

            Thank you Sire. “As you were!”

            tSAtSE

          • Selamat Amde,

            “In any case, I am genuinely curious to know what you specifically want the Ethiopian government to do. . A couple of months ago you were asking Ethiopia to build the wall so young Eritreans won’t come in. Still they come, and those that can, live normal lives among the civilian population.”

            I will incorporate what I want specifically done by the Ethiopian Government with my edited Thucydides Eulogy of “No Peace No War.” addressed to EPMD. And the couple of month ago building of a wall was not intended towards the Ethiopian Government. I am an American and was satirizing the American Government newly elect President Donald Trump.

            The Daily Beast, a link you provide paved the way for me to address you as such. And then…SJG and iSEM though it was high time to surf the wave. Just like sugar substitute Sweet and Low was discovered by accident by a scientist in a laboratory. The Gurgurr will be debuting soon Sire!

            You have not been reading all my satire lately… I like aged cheese with a glass of perfectly aged Pino Noir.

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Amde,

            “I don’t expect policy change from Eritrea without regime change and I don’t expect regime change without blood.” That is the concept yet either misunderstood or frightened to sacrifice for change, while the regime is killing us like anything else group by group and one by one. No dictator can be removed without sacrifice and freedom will be achieved without commitment.

          • Selamat Aya Amanuel Hidrat,

            I hope you don’t mind me asking you why you are responding to a question that I think is addressed to me? tes will be gracing us with his article on why he opposes or has a problem with Ethnic Federalism. And I will wait for those points to be made.

            But I will go ahead and strike the iron while it is hot and respond to Amde.

            The Short Answer:

            I do not want nor expect for the Ethiopian Government to do anything. If I were to ask the Ethiopian Goverment to send me the $1M it they owe me and I want it now, the Ethiopian Government will not do it, just because I said so. Having said that, allow me to clarify further:

            My wants and demands are from the Government of my country. In our context, my country is Eritrean. And I ask my wants and demands from the Eritrean Government. And The Eritrean Government is the Eritrean People. Including Amanuel Hidrat.

            I am not precluded though to have and attempt to have an effect to and produce great African Leaders for human progress. And EPMD will be hearing from

            GitSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Solomon,

            I did not answer Amde’s question to you. I just quoted from his statment and drop few words in support to his statement. I did not go beyond that.

      • Amde

        Selam Gheteb,

        I think all the “speculators, hoarders and price gougers” are moving to Ethiopia? Thanks to PFDJ.

        Amde
        PS Gheteb, why do you insult Eritreans by saying they have deformed identities?

      • Brhan

        Hi Gheteb,
        Are you aware of the Eritreans fleeing Eritrea. It is crystal clear! Including the business persons. There is only one side because the other can only be said unfriendly to business persons.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hi Brhan,

          Sure Eritreans are leaving Eritrea and so are many citizens of other countries. Nothing new there as emigration is a world wide phenomena.

          Just ask those business people who have left Eritrea, the ones you are talking about, what kind of crime or unethical business practices are accused of by the Eritrean government. That is what I was asking you about.

          • Brhan

            Hi again
            World wide phenomena is not a hanger that we hang our problems. I agree with you that it is , but I am talking here about a government being friendly to business persons. Others are fleeing not because their countries’ governments are unfriendly to business persons like ours. Is PF(JD) business friendly? I do not believe. Not only that but it eliminates business persons from the earth and for this I do not need to prove you because there are abundant evidences recorded in the web.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Gheteb, one simple indication of the dishonesty of the PFDJ and its supporters like you is that you all the time give different ‘explantions’ as to why the Eritrean people are vacating their country. At times you said, it was a deliberate ploy by the USA and CIA in order to depopulate Eritrea, then you say, it is the same phenomena as in other developing world, the Eritrreans are simply seeking opportunities elsewhere. And now recently, the information minister of the PFDJ regime was quoted as saying it was the endless war-threats from Ethiopia that are causing the youth to run away. Your dishonesty has no bounds.

  • Olana

    Dear all

    I believe many Eritreans specially the highlanders have been wrongly guided for a long time to believe the sea is all Eritrea has, ignoring other values the country has, such as human and non-human aspects. I remember a ‘patriot nationalist’ Eritrean classmate in university was telling me about Eritrean government plan to give USD1,000 to every Eritrean on monthly basis from the income of the port. That was from a 4th year law student. Many shared my friend’s believe and that make the people hostage by ‘our ports, our lifeblood’ thinking. All they think is only the ports whenever economic issue is raised. Ports alone will not help Eritrea to grow. It is an advantage to have own see outlets but as a country there are other elements far more important than the ports. Ethiopia will not depend only on the Eritrean ports for its import and export due to cost, proximity, security etc. Even Eritrea will not depend only in its exiting ports. Using port of Sudan could be more economical for the people in the north-west Eritrea than using Massaw as using Massaw is economical for the northern part of Ethiopia. Let’s see things from this perspective. But to do the normal business we need peace and cooperation between countries. I believe DIA is an obstacle that should be removed because he cares only about giving life to his throne than improving the life of the people of the region.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Olana,

      Don’t try to minimize the importance of the Eritrean sea coasts. They are vitally important to Eritreas economic life. What other economic sector is Eritrea overlooking?

      You say: ” But to do the normal business we need peace and cooperation between countries”. Yeah, but who has held hostage “peace and cooperation….”?

      Do you have the guts to call a spade a spade here or you want go on “DIA” blaming stampede?

      • Olana

        Dear Ghetab
        First thank you for replying in English I can understand. It is not about having guts to call a spade a spade. It is about being honest. I know whatever reason I give you about stubbornness of DAI you will not accept as he is well serving your purpose.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hi Olana,

          Then give it shot and try me. Let me see who you will hold responsible for reneging on implementing the FINAL and BINDING EEBC rulings?

      • Amde

        Selam Gheteb,

        How is the Massawa port boom going?

        Amde

        • blink

          Dear Amde
          I have been following all of you , I mean the people from south. You guys are doing great service for your beloved EPRDF not necessarily for your people in the south. Some one has to ask the basic question ”why” . Let’s be honest about this ,you guys spend amble time talking to some Eritreans in which ,some of them die hard PFDJ and some of then in the opposition, this forum as any other forum looks the same if you come back even after 3 or 10 years .Have you ever convince any one ? . Let’s go one by one
          1. I have never ever trust Hayat
          2. Abi never stopped insulting Eritreans
          3. All of you never ever objected abi insults , in fact all of you celebrated them
          4.Horizon never tried to be serious
          5.Fanti managed to say things that we do not like .. in a good way
          6. The dictator in Asmara did not go
          7.We are waiting for more lies like the 90 million USD and so many numbers from Hayat
          8. Your continuous improvement on jokes about Eritreans did not say much
          9. …… 100 to list .

          I always say to my friends that ,, the main problem we have in the opposition is the hand of Ethiopians . Even in the cyberspace ,Ethiopians are not helping not that we don’t want your help but you guys are not good due to your wrong history lessons .Amde when is Ethiopia’s election ? Semere Andom is coming to vote while Amanuel H and Tes come to give their support for the sake of Ethnic federalism. Tes I am waiting your take on the Ethnic based government!!!!!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Blink,

            Let me add some lines.

            9. Made has claimed that Eritreans are people “with deformed identity”.
            10. Forget about that bumpkin tes. He wouldn’t know a thing about “ethnic federalism” even if you hit with a book entitled ” Ethnic Poiltics for DUMMIES”. He usually writes when he is besottedly bombed as in completely drunk
            11. Abraham H is nothing a Medrek’s parrot. He repeats mindlessly whatever the Mederk folks say.

          • Amde

            Selam Gheteb.

            “9. Amde has claimed that Eritreans are people “with deformed identity”.”

            It is not like I care what you say about me, but where/when did I say that? You keep saying it. And it just is not true.

            I have said Eritreans are victims of Geography, that the independence ghedli was not necessary, that it has not resolved many of either Ethiopia’s or Eritrea’s issues.

            But, “deformed identity”? It is not my conception of identity at all. At all.

            If you can find it, show me and I will apologize. I am man enough to apologize to you of all people.

            Otherwise, you need to apologize to me for making and spreading false claims.

            You have until the end of the weekend.

            Amde

          • Kebessa

            Selam Gheteb,
            Please substantiate your accusation on #9 (in light of Amde’s denial)…perhaps someone else said it? I certainly would be upset if I am accused of something I never said. I am sure you would too.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Kebessa,

            Show me who else you have asked to substantiate his or her claim recently in this Forum on issues similar to the one you are asking me to substantiate. I am more than 100% sure that statement was made by Amde and no one else. Take it or leave it, believe it or don’t believe it, as I have not asked you to believe it or not.

          • Amde

            Selam Gheteb,

            You are 12 hours into needing to explain why you think Eritreans have deformed identities. Why do you say such things?

            Amde

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amde,

            Who do you represent?

          • Amde

            Selam Simon,

            I represent me myself and I.

            I don’t like bullies and cruelty and meanness to others.

            Why should you care anyway?

            Amde

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amde,

            Don’t you think you should leave Eritrean problems to be solved by Eritreans?

          • Amde

            Selam Simon,

            Rhetorical answer: NO!!

            Contextual answer: I don’t believe Eritrean and Ethiopian problems can be resolved in isolation.

            Principle answer: don’t ask me who I represent. I grew up watching know-nothing cadres browbeat and abuse a lot more wiser and knowledgeable people so their nuanced contributions would be dismissed. This is a profoundly damaging culture of worshipping dogma over knowledge. Something you Trumpists are implementing in the US. Maybe you are a cadre, but I assure you i am not, but I value discussion and knowledge sharing.

            I represent my self and my arguments. If you learn something from them fine. If they hurt your feelings – well too bad – generally it is not intentional.

            I have a lot of disagreements with your positions (maybe all haha), but it may surprise you to know I like you Simon. You created a phantom enemy out of me in your imagination.

            Amde

            PS I will buy you beer from my next cadre payout. What do you like?

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            I like Guinness. When is payday?
            You and I grew up in a society where Esepa cadre had more respect and power than a minister or a director of any organization.
            I remember Guad Tesfaye Shewaye was the most feared and respected than Abiy Kifle.
            Tesfaye was esepa representative .
            Dr Abiy Kifle was the president of AAU.

          • Amde

            Abi,

            You are absolutely right.

            I spent some time at Amist Kilo as well. The dean of the faculty of technology was powerless over the Esepa representative. The guy held a non-technical and non-academic job title. Unfortunately I forgot their names.

            This was the case in every institution.

            You don’t know how it enrages me when I read headlines like Trump is installing his people in every cabinet office to be his eyes and ears. Washington is becoming Cadregrad.

            Amde

            Guinness is too dark.

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            Guinness is the best beer tastes like ፊልቴር ጠላ::

          • Haile S.

            Hi Abi,
            Let alone Guad Tesfaye over Dr Kifle, to underestimate and show the irrelevancy of those educated, even his ministers, Mengistu resorted to quoting an ‘exemplary farmer’ from somewhere in Gojjam Guad QomChe Ambaw (ቆምጨ ኣምባው) saying ጓድ ቆምጨ ኣምባው አንዳሉት….

          • Abi

            Hi Gashe Haile
            At least ጏድ ቆምጨ had some decency and wisdom. In order to force people to attend the mandatory መሰረተ ትምህርት he said, ” መሰረተ ትምህርቱን የማይከታተል ቡዳ ብቻ ነው”

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            You have obviously never read my posts on Ethiopia and EPRDF.

            The Massawa queation was not a joke. It appears Eritrea’s economic policy wrt the coast begins and ends with port use/rent collection. That is it. If we are to assume the Assab issue is a fluke (an exception due to the war), then logic dictates that Eritrea’s utilization of its other port and coastline would show a marked poaitive difference from the fate of the empty Assab port.

            Since Gheteb is severely ignoring me, perhaps YOU can say what is markedly different about Massawa port and how it is booming compared to Assab.

            If I can summarize Nitricc’s , Semere’s and Gheteb’s responses, it is:
            a) we are happy the Ethiopians are not using it,
            b) we have UAE to defend it and develop it,
            c) at some point Ethiopia will be forced to use it,
            d) then we can dictate terms we like

            You can see how it is a weird passive-aggressive policy which assumes the Ethiopian side is a bunch of imbeciles.

            So far nobody has told me how Eritrea gains economically from UAE building a Naval base. Annual fees whose real value diminishes over time, and in return Eritrea gains geopolitical entanglement it doesn’t need.

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            I did , actually I have up voted them all , I remember them too . Don’t you wonder by calling you with people like Abi ,, I have my regrets box with me and I have thrown one by your name .I read two people’s comments from southerners and these two people are A. Amde B. Fanti , unless I do not read comments written by Eyob ,rahwa….. and so many southerners. Yet you need to read books written by Eritreans about hailessilassie ”short smart” man . He did rope us and killed us . I always wonder why you didn’t accept our revolution yet.

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            “Yet you need to read books written by Eritreans about hailessilassie ”short smart” man . He did rope us and killed us .” I have acknowledged all the deaths and the many losses to too many families. I don’t know if you missed that.

            I cringe when I read the word “revolution”. If you want to label the current Eritrean reality as a “revolution”, then don’t expect me to accept it. It is indeed a revolution, but I feel it is better termed a nightmare.

            Sorry you regret your voice. But, I actually don’t know what it is you are regretting?

            On this issue, I pushed back on the assertion that the camels landing (i.e. UAE naval bases being established in Assab), was economically equivalent to matching the opportunity cost that SalehJ was noting in comparison to the situation in Djibouti. They are not. The reason for the naval bases is simply waging war on Yemen, and jostling for a geopolitical hotspot seat. At some point the Yemen reason will disappear and it will just be another naval base, a dusty outpost of UAE’s imperial ambitions. If there was meaningful economic relationship to be had between PFDJ’s Eritrea and UAE, then a naval base would be unnecessary.

            Furthermore, Eritrea cannot claim the Assab situation is an Ethiopian made exception, because the Massawa port is hardly better – that is what I challenged Gheteb to show. Where did I go wrong sir?

            Amde

          • Hayat Adem

            blink,
            Obviously, my purpose of being here is to discourse. Nothing else. I don’t see it in terms of how many trust me, don’t trust me. And I myself don’t invest trusts on others. i go with the moment. If you say something good and positive, i will cheer you. if not I will challenges you or remain indifferent. The other day, you said that i was a subject of talk in some pal-talk rooms. Today, you are saying you don’t trust me. Okay, what can i do make you trust me short of killing myself?
            -do you suspect me of working for Woyane? I don’t. There is nothing else i can show other than telling you that I don’t. But what if i do? aren’t you smart enough, truthful enough and confident enough to meet my word with your word?
            -do you suspect me of hating PFDJ too much? I do. But you know the reason why. you hate them too. They are criminals and they are hurting our people. No apologies there. But I don’t want to fight them with out the right tools: the facts and the truth.
            -what else is there to suspect me of? I don’t mind pfdjites discoursing with me. In fact, i like interacting more with them than with my like-minded people.

          • blink

            Dear Hayat
            I refuse to raise my hands to clab with a goog and swaps paints .The TPLF machine is horrible goog ,that can move swiftly through the treacherous lands to slay the unknowing victim, and drink the life from its veins. Let’s be real and accept That current EPRDF propaganda is meaningless; it’s putting sticks in someone’s wheels. And guess whose ox is being gored? The weyane students’. Trusting is not an issue that bothers them .

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi again blink,
            “We are waiting for more lies like the 90 million USD and so many numbers from Hayat ”

            The most I hate here is when I’m asked, not asked, demanded to prove general knowledge stuff. The PFDJites do this to me most of the time. Their data and horizon of knowledge and interaction are limited. The suffer from uni-polar sources. When something they never heard is tabled, they come in droves to you and shout “prove it, where is your evidence”. When they ask for evidence, it is not to know the truth and settle it as a conclusive knowledge. It is in the hope that you will fail to bring one and be falsified. It is not that they care for evidence of sorts. if that was the case, they would stand by the people languishing in many prisons without a chance for a day in court and charges, or any evidence of wrong doing on their part. The assumption that runs in their head is that they must have done something. So, when they ask you for a proof it is not because they believe in it. They don’t they never. When you give them the proof what they were looking for, they don’t take an aha moment, they don’t thank you and they never change their opinion or impacted by the evidence they sought as a precondition to believe you. The are incurious for the essence in the proof and its implications bu they are curious on the possibility of you failing to provide or produce it. If you show them, the jump on to another tree and demand evidence for something said by some one else.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hayat Adem,

            Then where did you get the 90 million USD that Eritrea got from Ethiopia using the port of Assab. Be honest here and admit that your Godfather “AG” has given you the wrong information or you overheard it from some of your Tigrayan pals or you just made it up.

            This isn’t the first time that you were caught with your hands in a cookie jar and lying through your teeth.

          • Hayat Adem

            Uncle Gheteb,
            I am not the one who is given an ultimatum of 24 hrs to produce the evidence or apologize. How does it look? Are you succeeding?
            Don’t worry about me, I can support everything I said with credible data sources.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hayat Adem,

            Don’t try to change the subject here. Address what you are challenged with. You Weyane folks are given to these false notions that you have the power to issue ultimatums. Neither your Weyane nor the sycophant BeAdin (በኣዲን) janissary’s hot air threat fazes this person you are talking to. I stand by what I wrote and I am not going to offer neither a syllable of apology nor even one alphabet of evidence. I hope that ain’t going to make you cry and wet your hair (facial or otherwise) and your cheeks.

            You have failed to produce anything to support your claims, tout court!

          • Amde

            Selam Gheteb,

            Why do you say Eritreans have deformed identities?

            Explain yourself.

          • Hayat Adem

            Gheteb,
            Now you are pinned to a wall. How many times did you say Eritreans are of deformed identity? Explain why you thought so?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hayat Adem,

            Again, don’t you and your pal Amde change the subject in the manner your Weyane does whenever it is engaged in any type of negotiation or dialogue. The way your Weayne changes the issue at hand is: when they reach a Rubicon they move the Rubicon. That is what you are precisely doing here. Your man is the one who has made that assertion about Eritreans and not me. Nice try, but that is a moot issue.

            No evidence for your lies and doing everything not to answer about your tears wetting your facial hair and here you are again shamelessly trying to change the subject.

          • Amde

            Selam Gheteb,

            “Your man is the one who has made that assertion about Eritreans and not me. Nice try, but that is a moot issue.”

            Prove it, or you are a liar and a coward.

            Amde

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hayat,

            Can you give your government an ultimatum to leave occupied Eritrean land?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam blink,

            I think Hayat, Amde and Abi are low grade cadres [with different styles] assigned to troll at this website. How can they afford to spend so much time and energy on Eritrean issues that should not concern them?

            Ethiopia is full of serious problems that need urgent solutions.

          • blink

            Dear Simone
            Well may be they feel glorious to come here and argue with us , unless how could they have such free time

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Amde,
          Good question. You know for sure that Assab won’t envy it, except for some show cases like bars and restaurants that cater for well-connected Diaspora tourists, regime cronies and of course special amenities for the despot’s sojourn for seclusion.
          Regards

    • Michael Tesfamariam

      Hi Olana, the same deceptive political tactic is still being used in Eritrea and it is working.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Michael Tesfamariam,

        You can’t be talking about ” the same deceptive political tactic” without first making clear what the deceptive political tactic is. That is just disingenuously deceptive and begs the question.

        • Michael Tesfamariam

          Gheteb, you did not seem to read the comment I was replied to, you need to read and grasp it before you ask me a question you should be asked for.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Michael Tesfamariam,

            Are you basing your ” the same deceptive political tactic” on this???

            ” Eritrean government plan to give USD1,000 to every Eritrean on monthly basis from the income of the port. That was from a 4th year law student. Many shared my friend’s believe and that make the people hostage by ‘our ports, our lifeblood’ thinking”.

            Since when has rumors and wish full thinking became “deceptive political tactics” and how did you come to the conclusion that “it is still being used in Eritrea and it is working”. Mind giving concrete and verifiable examples?

          • Michael Tesfamariam

            Ghebete, I believe you are one of the victims of HGDEF’s deception, you do not seem to have a a valid point to make out of this but the same babble which you and other brainwashed hgdefawain use to defend their weak argument.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Michael Tesfamariam,

            Sorry you have abysmally failed to back up your claims. You want us to believe that you don’t fall for deceptions and you are not one of those anti-HGDF elements who endlessly spout nonsensical and illogical pronouncements. Here also you flunked horrendously.

    • blink

      Dear olena
      May be 99% of the people you are accusing have never set a foot or imagined about exporting fish or charging our southerners greedy mouth in Aseb .They are capable of working on their own life apart from the sea. You are just having many things from our weyane twiste arm of EASE . The highlanders are accused of many things but that sea thing is just out side of their seat. We heard many things like issiass represent the Tigrinya, Tigrinya are eating someone’s food while PFDJ kill people like kunama’s , Afar and others , trust me such thing doesn’t have any sense.

  • ‘Gheteb

    ‘The Camels’ Have Landed In Assab

    Greetings!!

    The late prime minister of the Weyane led Ethiopia was intent on bringing Eritrea to its knees through wars, diplomatic isolations and economic strangulations. To achieve the goal of collapsing the Eritrean economy, his Weyane plan included boycotting the use of the Eritrean port of Assab. Here is what the late prime minster said about this issue in 2000 :

    ““So if we use the Port of Assab, the benefit is not only for us, but for Eritrea, too. On the other hand, if we decide against using Assab, then the fate of Assab would remain to be a mere source of drinking water for camels. I made this clear to the diplomats. No more, no less. If we do not use the port of Assab, then the Eritrean government won’t get a single cent from Assab”.

    Just pay attention to the last part of the afore-quoted paragraph to see the malevolent malintent of the late Weyane leader:

    [ the Eritrean government won’t get a single cent from Assab].

    He may be surely tossing and turning six-feet deep in his graves having heard it through one of the of the Weyane mediums known to have communicated with the dead Meles Zenawi. The medium has informed him that, yes Assab has truly turned into a camels watering hole and the camels are flocking to it not to drink water, as camels don’t drink sea water, but to revive, revitalize and protect this pearl of the Red Sea, the port of Assab.

    Now what was the deal between Eritrea and the detestably loathsome Weyanes regarding the use of the port of Assab by the latter? Well, let us what the records tell us about this highly politicized issue.

    ““As stipulated under an intergovernmental transit and port services agreement as well as a customs arrangement (amended annually), the port of Assab is a FREE port for Ethiopia, with its own Ethiopian customs branch office, and goods shipped to or from Ethiopia remain exempt from the Eritrean customs duties and related charges”.

    This according to an IMFs “Annual Report on Exchange Arrangements and Exchange Restrictions 1996″.

    For those who are interested to know the truth and are not utterly incapacitated by an ant-PFDJ antipathy or are not totally encumbered by the water-carrying task they are doing for the Weyanes or are completely unable to cross the conceptual barrier because of their deep-rooted animus of Eritrea, a link will be provided come this weekend.

    Yes, read again: ” the port of Assab is a FREE port for Ethiopia”. And FREE means nothing but FREE of US dollars or Ethiopian birr. Whatever the Eritrean economy benefitted from the Ethiopian use of the port of Assab was a mere byproduct of this very activity.

    But the camels have landed in Eritrea and particularly in the port of Assab. Just 10kms north of the Assab port, which is considered as austere, a modern deep water docking site with an airport has been built to accommodate a modern base for one of the prominent and uber-wealthy camel, the UAE and Assab also hosts other camels such as the KSA, Egypt and other GCC countries.

    The economic benefits due to Ethiopia using the port of Assab pales in comparison to what Eritrea has garnered since the arrival of the camels to Assab. The exact monetary compensation to Eritrea from the UAE for the used of the facility in the port of Assab is not exactly known as it is a national security issue, but I guesstimate that it ain’t a chump change.

    The geopolitical implication of this landing of the camels in the port of Assab is huge in the sense that it has completely changed the whole politico-military calculus in the Horn region so much so that the perfidious Weyanes have turned into incurable insomniacs just like the late prime minister of the Weyanes was chronically insomnolent.

    With the upcoming Colluli Potash project in the South Red Sea region of Eritrea and the export of potash to the world, the port of Assab will surely see the economic revival burying yet again the evil desire of the loathsome Weyanes dream and desire to see the death of Assab. On the contrary, what we are witnessing is the death of the dream of creating The Republic Of The Greater Tigray as the creator of this dream of Abbay Tigray is itself in extremes and soon to expire.

    • Amde

      Selam Gheteb,

      So, “The economic benefits due to Ethiopia using the port of Assab pales in comparison to what Eritrea has garnered since the arrival of the camels to Assab. ”

      What exactly does the UAE need Assab for, than to play the death game against poor Yemenis and the far off Persians?

      In other words, what would make UAE use of Assab economically sustainable?

      Amde

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Amde,
        What made you think Gheteb is for an economy that is sustainable? He enjoys enduring hate and discovering difference.

        • Amde

          Hi Hayat,

          You are absolutely correct. His entire argument is about building walls.

          Perhaps the new camels will bring him fresh supply of “detestable” and “loathsome”. He’s gonna run out at this rate.

          Amde

      • Nitricc

        Hi AMDE; The benefit is enormous.
        1) You need the port and we know at one point we have to talk and deal with you; due to the arrival of UAE; WE Don’t.
        2) UAE are masters in running ports; they will get more money of you than we ever could.
        3) UAE have more recourses to make the port on of the best.
        4) UAE going to make Assab their military base meaning Eritrea will be armed with cutting age weaponry system.
        5)This might make you mad, so, I pass
        6) this might Hayat make mad, so I pass
        7) this might make Abi go through roofs, so I pass.

        • Abi

          Hi General Nitricc
          On your #4
          In Amharic we say
          የፈሪ ዱላው ብዙ ነው
          I hope the UAE will bring you trained fighters as well.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hey Nitricc,

          Abi’s “Queen” has been trounced, clobbered and got thrashed and don’t worry about the ”Queen” getting mad. The FACTS are overwhelming so much so that now the “Queen” is overcome with emotions of total DEFEAT. The “Queen” is crying and tears are coming down. Here is what the ”QUEEN” has to say:

          ” i have felt tears wetting my chicks and hairs”.

          Now we know that tears do roll down ones cheeks, but have you EVER seen tears wetting ones hair?

          Well, the only time tears wet ones hair is if that person has a BEARD or a facial hair.

          Therefore, the “Queen” must have facial hair or a beard and, perforce, the “QUEEN” is not a real queen.

          Q.E.D

        • Amde

          Selam Nitricc,

          So it boils down to they will have the money to make the port great and well defended.

          So they spend the money.

          Then what?

          Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi AMDE; I am not denying the benefit and the historic ties between Ethiopia and Eritrea. once I told Abi, Hialesilase ignited the war for the independence of when he tried to massacre the Eritrean Muslims while bribing the christian and highlander Eritreans. that didn’t work and Derg came firing in all cylinders by killing every Eritrean and Derg’s brutality brought the independence of Eritrea. then it was the chance to bury the hatchet and move on to a fresh start to live in peace and harmony. Then your government, the weyane got greedy. they thought, if we can break Eritrean’s spinal cord, we will be feared and respected by the Ethiopians i.e. they can loot Ethiopian resource for life. That didn’t happen and the Eritrea and Eritreans prevailed. Weyane was forced to sign in to final and binding agreement. Instead of going through the court’s veridiction and move on in peaceful manner, your weyane tried to be smart and tried to play games. They hatched no peace no war plan and Eritrea prevailed. they hatched sanction under BS reasoning, Eritrea prevailed. They tried everything they can and Eritrea defended every conspiracy and every sabotage. The simplest and the easiest thing to was, obliged with the ruling and make a peace with Eritrea. All your government has to do was follow the court’s decision and move on to the next relationship with this two sisterly nations. the more the weyane came up with the different methods to bring down Eritrea the more Eritrean went the other way. Now, Eritrea is standing in a better position than your beloved weyane and the more Eritrea forced to pull away from the historical ties what was once there.
            Don’t you think it was the right thing to do to get out of Eritrean land and honor what they agreed upon and make ports and other economics deals than what they have done?
            to answer your question; what is next; Eritrea is moving away and all the historical sistership among the two nations is about to evaporate. It is the matter of time before Eritrea comes the Egypt of Africa. I do believe giving the strategic location of the Eritrea it is only a matter of time before Eritrea joining the Arab league and move on for good while collecting the ludicrous rent of the port. The sad thing is, you could have got the port and win the heart of the Eritreans. but you choose to play the hard game and you lost. that is what next is, Eritrea is gone for good!

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Nitricc,
            Whether I agree with you or not, is immaterial. But I commend you for the new tone, which I am hoping you will be able to sustain. I like the way you put your comment, no belittling, no provocation, no insult. I can only say, bravo.

          • Amde

            Selam Nitricc,

            Sounds like you are happy with the status quo. Congratulations.

            Amde

          • Haile S.

            Hi Nitricc,
            I would have replaced the last paragraph by the obligation that the Eritrean leadership has to find solution to the pronounced and unpronounced plight of its people. The Eritrean people do not need to bear the burden of the leaderships tag of war with its Ethiopian counterpart. It could and should loosen and relax the pressure. The biggest mistake the Eritrean leadership is making is letting its citizen bear all the consequences of the justified or unjustified pressure it is receiving for being the leader of a country. If I have to summarize in a a sentence the biggest problem of the Eritrean leadership, it is its lack of confidence in its citizens and its intransigency to any idea brought forward.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Haile S.,

            Can you explain what you have in mind when you said:

            ” The Eritrean people do not need to bear the burden of the leaderships tag of war with its Ethiopian counterpart. It could and should loosen and relax the pressure. The biggest mistake the Eritrean leadership is making is letting its citizen bear all the consequences of the justified or unjustified pressure it is receiving for being the leader of a country”.

            Now tell me this:

            (1) what are “the burden of the ” leaderships tag of war with its Ethiopian counterpart”?

            (2) What is “the pressure” that you are asking the leadership should relax?

            (3) What are the “consequences” that you have in mind?

          • Haile S.

            Hi Gheteb,
            I will give you some answer
            (1) what are “the burden of the ” leaderships tag of war with its Ethiopian counterpart”?
            – The biggest burden is ‘not limiting and innovating the military service, leaving it open’, letting the young flee from it and all the consequences that follow…
            – Because of the above our young are losing hope of self-fulfillment in their own country. It is sad to see most dreaming of going out of the country.
            – Postponement of justice, constitutional governance, economic incentive and freedom of expression through independent media… As the result all decisions are taken by the leadership (liberation struggle-based leadership) not necessarily reflecting and representative of the country’s social, political and economic diversity of the nation.
            – The hypertesteronized language (both ours and Ethiopian) leading to the development of alpha-male language of leadership and communication (should I say a language of our recent biological ancestors) depriving citizens of the compassionate humane language that they deserve to hear from their leaders.
            – In summary, the slightest absence of change is explained implicitly or explicitly by the hovering danger (Ethiopia)
            (2) What is “the pressure” that you are asking the leadership should relax?
            – Find solutions or relaxing all of the above.
            (3) What are the “consequences” that you have in mind?
            If you referring to “…letting its citizen bear all the consequences of the justified or unjustified pressure…” – The consequences can be summarized in general into all the economic hardship the citizens are facing in Eritrea, the young are facing in trying to find safe haven and the image and perception that the country is receiving as the result.
            If I have to develop further all these, I am going just repeat what has been largely discussed in this forum for long time, but to summarize my thought I would say even if all problems in Eritrea are not 100% attributable to the leadership, the leadership is 100% answerable to all the hardship the citizens are facing; and most of these hardship happen to be on basic subsistence and necessities.

          • ሰላማት ገተብ፡

            ያ ረጁል ያ በጠል! ኸሊና ይ ኣኺ። ምን ምቴን ኢንታ ገዕድክ ፊል ኩርሲ ሓቕ al police al Dieashine? MP? Any way way it is more likely that Haile S. has served a lot more numerous tours of duty than the Eritrean law or decree regarding national service and he has managed to be discharged by hook or crook? May I ask you Mr. Gheteb if,infact you did one year, a single tour of duty in Eritrea? I doubt it very much. It is likely you bought your exemption by means I will,not hesitate to spell,out should you dare with your futile promise,of a letgal,offensive on my ant mounds.
            Let the future generation,leaders have a dialogue free of you MP stick.

            ጻጸ

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tsa Tse,

            Are you telling me that I should shut up and never ask questions when someone writes a comment? And then I have to stop asking a question because
            (a) someone was in the national service
            (b) someone is young
            (c) someone has more experience
            (d) because Tsa Tse said so…

            I thought you decided not to embarrass me by debunking what I wrote about Naqfa and “IA” because you wanted me around and now you want me to shut up. Do you see the two contradictory stands you have taken against a person that you feel the need of mentioning at least a dozen of time in every note or comment you write here.

            Tsa Tse my problem is sometimes the wording and the way English is used by certain Forumers and that is why I ask questions.

            With your Aya Amanuel Hidrat, I just translate what he writes literally into Tigrigna to understand what he is trying to say. A man who attended a community college somewhere at the intersection of Grand concourse and Fordham Rd., not far from Father Ziezer place where a certain ANT used to creep to a one apartment.

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            I am going to guess choice d) Every test and quiz during my school day I Aced with a perfect score, not because I put in the hours and studied, as every smart and successful student would. I got every answer correct also not because I cheat. I detest cheating because it is simply not honorable. My method for a perfect score was always the same. Guess. I am probably the only person who got every question right on the MCAT. I got into every medical school that specialized in extraction of excess fat from ants, hamema, duduE, Tukhan. I am famous for extracting 5 pounds of fat from a bee. A record by any lypo suction specialist ever, that held until it was disqualified because of small technicality. Some dude decided to examine the matter and reported that what I extracted from the bee was not fat. I was honey.
            Man if it wasn’t my uncle Amanuel Hidrat the pharmacologist from da boogie down, I woulda I wouda … and my uncle Amanuel is enjoying the honey I mined from the bee, liking his fingers and lips as he did his presentation to refute my claim and patented method.

            Any way, We always good Gheteb. One of my favorite songs is FiHira’s “YeEwaf nay semai arowit nay mdri kemy halefe nay berekhana Hidri, daHdio lomis QalAlem sberi.”

            DaHdaHayo Gheteb. just easy with your MP Dula waving ala Chogar Danga anta Ansebetay.

            I better be Audi 5 thousand, so that you don’t have to wait for my Comedy Central at the Improve special to hear my first response and this one. It ain’t Saturday and Jebena and my Captain Saay7 is Audi Five Thousand and ain’t no body got ma back, except MaHmuday “The Best” SaliH with his Tooth Less punch throwing abilities.

            I will move you up to Elite9 so that you comprehend fully the methods to my madness. With the reservation of all rights to fend and Hijum, or selaHta werrar you deploy of course.

            These days I am like Abi’s Brother or Brother in law. Asefa Jembede. I can’t tell an ant from a bee yo.” Inie inja hulu iye tezebarquegn new.” you people call a gorgeous and thick sista TANKI…and then she goes on a peleo diet or lypo suction and just like that, she can’t shake what he mama gave her at Sheik Djubuti Club on Dahlak Island. Ask SJG, he saw her on the beaches of Gergusum and he burst out wit Zemach’s song “isikhi’s gual SaHiley Tanki leka aykonkin” and added “mnalbash tankika indiEi..”

            tSAtSE

          • Haile S.

            Thanks Xaxe,
            ሰላም ዕንኹራይ ጻጸ (ant that doesn’t bite) too innocent for an ant of wisdom like you. ሽሾ ጻጸ (that bites) is too much for you, you are not a killer. Lets say ደባን ጻጸ (yellow ant), a good compromise.

            Just to clarify, I never served in any Eritrean national service or Ghedli. In fact I was registered, meaning served, in the Derg national service. It was a must, but someone who had permanent work could justify getting exempted from the actual training and that was my case. Based on few discussion I had with Gheteb, I am around his generation. In fact we could have crossed path or played ana-dawa-tara when he came to visit his uncle near Emba Galliano in Edaga Hamus, Asmara. I had also an uncle who was renting a house close to Memhir Solomon’s house, the then neighbour of Gheteb’s uncle. Le monde est petit!

          • Selamat Hakhote Haile S.,

            As Amde puts it: GOLD!

            ጻጸ

          • Hi Nitricc,

            You better be very careful when you sign a new contract, whether it is with the egyptians or the arab league, so that it does not end up being faustian. You will be making a mistake if you think that the western shore of the red sea in the horn of africa, is a matter of interest only to ethiopia and eritrea. There are many players, whose vested interests are in conflict.
            If you bring the egyptians, not only that you will bring the israelis with them, but even the saudis would not like to feel their breath, and they will opposite vehemently. These two countries never had a harmonious relationship, even though both are arab countries. If you join the arab league, the economic powers of the west and east will feel that the red sea is becoming an ‘arab lake’, and trade flow through the red sea could be disrupted. These powers who are already stationed in the region will tighten their grip on dia, and he will be history in no time. Remember, egyptians once tried to block the red sea at the strait of bab-el-mandeb unsuccessfully.
            Therefore, you better put the bar somewhat lower, because your expectations are unrealistic, and dangerous for the peace of the region. In life you cannot always prevail, and there are times when you should compromise, so that you do not lose everything. The spectre of badme and border demarcation has already done so much damage that it is better put on the backburner for a latter date. Although practical for the people, unfortunately it is seen as unpractical for the regime, which has tied its continued existence with badme.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horizon: I don’t think my take is that far from the truth but nevertheless, it is how I see it. I can understand for the political officials to bend the truth and to tell outright lie but I have a very difficult time for normal citizens like your self, AMDE, Abi etc to tell it as is? for instance; you are saying compromising is needed. for what? because they (both) can’t compromised, there was a skirmish, they can’t compromised the skirmish escalated to full out war. they can’t compromised they went to the court of law. the court of law rendered its verdicts and Eritrea is asking the implementation of the ruling at its fullest. Now, as honest and just loving citizen what do you want Eritrea to compromise for? I am asking what exactly do you want Eritrea to do? One can make the greatest mistake is leaving this issue to the ” latter date” I disagree, it is nothing but a timing bomb. Listen Eritrea had the same problem with Yemen, we lost our own islands but there is nothing we can do but go with rule of law. what is so difficult for your weyane to accept the rule of law and what it signed in front of the world?
            what is it?

          • Selam Nitricc,

            Woyane happens to have the luxury to drag its feet for another fifteen years and more, and the situation is destroying eritrea, what should eritrea do to minimize the damage, which is already extensive; continue on the same course? When I said compromise (not exactly the right word), I had in mind to postpone and reach a solution on a latter date, when sober minds come to the scene, and try to bring normality to eritrea now. Unfortunately, you do not seem to agree.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Horizon,

            Surely, the current situation is worrying your country Ethiopia. What other explanation can be given for your presence 24/7 on this website?

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amde

            “What does UAE need Assab for than for killing people? Anything else? If killing people is what UAE needs Assab for, then is that a long term sustainable thing?”

            Amde: So what should we do? ተኾርሚና፥ ስቕ ኢልና ክንነብዕ? Is that what you’ve in mind?

            It is all about security in every form of it, it is all about buying umbrella insurance, it is all about joining a group of nations that share common interest like ours…… all with the intent to survive to see another day in this jungle world.

            Successive Ethiopian regimes killed us for over half a century – just because we want to be us – Eritreans. In the last seven long decades alone, every Eritrean family has lost at least one immediate family member. Today, because of your successive governments cruelty, there are tens of thousands of our children that grew-up orphans, there are tens of thousands of our women that are widowed, there are tens of thousands that are physically and emotionally scared and handicapped for life…… and the list goes on.

            And in past thousand years, how many Eritreans were killed by the Arabs? None, zero, zilch……

            AND STILL, YOU’RE NOT DONE WITH US!!!

            So, if you refuse to be our brothers, if you refuse to insure us and protect us, if you refuse to stop bleeding us – if all you do is kill us – then why is it wrong for us to seek protection from our neighbors to our north? Why is it wrong to get some economic, financial, military…….. assistance from our Arab neighbors to protect and to better ourselves?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Amde

            Selam Semere,

            I am responding to the notion that UAE at Assab represents an economic windfall.

            If all you wanted out of Assab was to protect it so Ethiopians dont use it, then congratulations you succeeded wildly. And on the Arab coin too. Well played.

            It isone if those occasions for – be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

            Amde

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Semere Tesfay,

            The economic benefit of the Emirati Eritrean relation is so palpably tangible that the likes of the SEMG and even the putative Ethiopian Prime Minister Desalegn have whined about it. This Assab deal has left the Hasadat Weyanes simply greeneyedlly out of their wits.

            If Amde thinks that the second poorest nation on earth, Ethiopia, offers more economic benefits in regards to the use of the port of Assab, then I recommend he reads professor Al Mariam’s recent eye opening article about the Weyane ruled Emama Ethiopia.

            I suggest that Amde start hanging out with different “Union pals” from the manufacturing Plant to help him accept that Eritrea is a sovereign and independent country and Eritreans are not a people with “deformed identity”.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Semere Tesfai,

            Nothing is “wrong to get some economic, financial, military…….. assistance from our Arab neighbors ….”. This is a legitimate sovereign prerogative of a nation-state like ours.

            But the question is: What type of government is ruling our nation?. Do we you really believe we have a constitutionally entrusted national government that operates within the framework of checks and balances that ensure the interest of the nation?. Do you question the fact that the regime has been running the affairs of the nation in accordance to whims and qualms of the despot at its helm? Have we not heard him denying the help some of the Arab countries has given to the EPLF and others during the liberation war? Have he allied and cooperated just until very recently with Iran at the expense of economic and political relation with those Arab neighbors?

            Transient expediency targeted relations would only benefit the periodic or seasonal whims and interests of the dictators and would not help our suffering people. Do not be surprised if you I would see the

            Then, the regime supports would automatically change mood and spread negative propaganda campaigns against the Arabs. It will be just as it happened with the TPLF and EPRDF before the regime’s fall out and ignited the border war.
            Regards

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ismail AA You said ” But the question is: What type of government is ruling our nation?. Do you really believe we have a constitutionally entrusted national government that operates within the framework of checks and balances that ensure the interest of the nation?.”
            But that is our business, though. We must first for most preserve the survival of the nation and then after we can debate argue and disagree there after about our internal political process. I don’t know how you see things but the external forces tried to destroy this nation. Despite Ethiopia refusing the decision of the international court, despite Ethiopia invading Somalia, despite Eritrea held hostage by no war no peace and submerge under war clouds by much larger nation of Ethiopia, Eritrea can’t even arm herself due to the illegal sanction while Ethiopia is allowed to arm to the teeth. for me this alone gives Eritrea to do whatever to protect herself. fair is fair and i expect you to be fair.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Nitricc,
            But don’t you think a sensible government ruling a nation facing the situation you have described should count on national unity a first option to ensure survival of the state? If you are fair, too, you won’t prove me wrong when I contend that the policies, internal as well as external, the regime has been imposing by decrees since 1991 have never been compatible with requisites nations lay down to guarantee survival. In fact, the regime’s resumé is a long list of mistakes be it foreign policies or internal policies.
            Regards

        • Selamat Nitric,

          Under the leasing agreement between UAE and GOSE, is UAE restricted to do trade with any specific country, say Djibuti, Somalia or Ethiopia for that matter?

          Your above comment and reply to my question could shed some light on what could be a brilliant win win solution already in,motion or an on the verge to be a potential one.

          Stay with your current stoic ans selective engagements. Never mind the Thomases, HA’and iSEMs trollins and or metaphoric phantom jets dog fights and their utility of a disguised as heat seeking misiles they pretend to lock on your tail, but after firiing their arsenal turns out to be hideius WMDs that are cluster bombs that drop to the ground with the intent of causing naximum damage to innocent civilians and properties of Eritreans. Speaking of cluster bombs, after operstion Fenkil that liberated port massawa, Derg’s airforce utilized cluster bombs from Chile and or Israel and the images of the wailing Massawa civikian residents and the fires and smoldering smokes from the arsenal is still vivid in my mind.

          Regards,

          tSAtSE

          • Nitricc

            Hey TsaTse; did hear about this young man the next Eritrean NFL football-player-Rafiti Ghirmay. this guy is so good all the top schools are after him. Michigan,
            Alabama, LSU, Florida, UCLA, Oregon, Georgia, Texas, TCU, and Ohio
            State are all over him. he is 6-foot-4, 290-pound athlete and is ranked No. 356 in
            the 2018 class, according to the 247Sports Composite. He is the 26th-best at
            his position and is ranked 46th in the state of Texas. 6-4 is big.

      • Peace!

        Selam Amde,

        If you’r genuinely, which I think, trying to make a point that leasing the port of Assab to UAE is not serving the public good other than for killing innocent civilians therfore the money is too dirty and unlawful, then you have a very good point, although it doesn’t go that way in politics.

        By the same token, I like to be sure that you are not trying to imply that the Weyane regime is holly enough that it doesn’t sn’t let its land to host drones to kill innocent civilians, and bleeding its own citizens by sending them to invade sovereign nations for $$.

        Peace!

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam Peace!

          Exactly what I would have replied had the person who replied to my note was someone other than Amde. I don’t respond to his jejune comments as he is still in ‘Ghetebs PURGATORY and still pigeonholed with those to be SEVERELY ignored.

          Among his innumerable sins is the cunning ploys he utilizes a la Tonkolgaw Kebede and his endless efforts of trying to fish in troubled waters so as to wedge a drive among Eritreans ,well, in his futile anti-Eritrean campaigns.

        • Amde

          Selam Peace,

          You have not answered the question. What does UAE need Assab for than for killing people? Anything else?

          If killing people is what UAE needs Assab for, then is that a long term sustainable thing?

          At what point does this UAE plan become an economically viable enterprise, if that was ever the intent?

          Amde

          • Peace!

            Selam Amde,

            Well, when it comes to dictatorship, sustainability is not what matters rather it is all about “survival.” I am afraid you are asking a right question but the situation on the ground is quite the opposite.

            Peace!

  • Nitricc

    Hi Abi: sometimes facts are better than gossip of yours and your queen and the rest of …

    “” On September 29, 1993, a transit and port services agreement was signed between the government of the State of Eritrea and the then Transitional Government of Ethiopia. The highlights of the agreement can be summarized as follows:
    – Assab and Massawa to serve as transit ports for Ethiopia, speedy movement of goods in transit to be expedited and transit documentation and procedures to be simplified and harmonized;
    – Ethiopian goods transiting through Assab and Massawa to be free of taxes and customs duties;
    – Eritrea to provide all necessary port handling and agency services to ships owned by and cargo destined to and/or originating from Ethiopia;
    – Eritrea to have the right to inspect transiting goods;
    – payments for services rendered to Ethiopian ships and cargo to be effected in Birr except where the handling costs were paid for by shipper or consignee in hard currency;
    – payment for Eritrean freight cargo boarded on Ethiopian ships to be effected in Birr and the rate of payment to be according to the agreed governing international freight rate;
    – food aid cargoes and emergency relief aid to be free of port dues and storage penalty charges.”

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hey Nitricc,

      Abi’s “Queen” is frantically making a call to “AG” to get information from TPLF Central. Semere Andom was seen to have bolted out of his Ontario Housing Project apartment heading towards the nearest Tim Horton coffee shop. Abraham H, is trying to get in touch with his mentor, Abba Nebsu, the ex-ambassador Andeberhan of Mederk. Abi is of the mind that Eritrea is still under the Derg’s control and Berhe Y, is clueless and at a loss whether he is still living in Asmara under the dergs rule in the 80s or he has left Asmara.

      • Berhe Y

        Gheteb,

        You know how I would settle my disagreement with you.

        It’s still in the table…MeAltiKa Halu.

        Berhe

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Berhe,

          Really the problem is with the moderators. This stupid guy will denigrate one after the other to every decent people in this forum. Look how insult to Ambassador Andebrhan “Abba kebdu”. They let him to go after every one. If this does not warrant reprimand then what will be.

          Regard

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat,

            I know I have ignored you so much these days, you have been saying a lot of nonsense about me these days. But today I am just going to share with you the following:

            I used Andeberhans sobriquet and nothing else. Why are you mad? Could it be that Andeberhan hails from the Seraye region/Awraja? Is this not a classic case of Awrajanet?

            You write:

            ” If this does not warrant reprimand then what will be”.

            Writing such kind of sentences is a sign that you have not learned much from your ESL classes at Bronx Community College. Or, did you?

            Please, don’t get your hopes up that I will exchange ideas with you. First, you are not in my league and second, your English is insufferably terrible.

            I suggest you enroll in ESL class in a Community College next to you. Please, encourage and do advise your MENTEE Semere Andom to register for an Intermediate ESL Class forthwith.

          • iSem

            Gheteb:
            what was your G.C.E score Mr. multiple thesaurus dude?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Sem,

            This man is a manfacturer of lies. I haven’t taken any ESL. The only English course I took in college is “advanced American English” course, as reflected in my transcript. In any case, the buck stops at the desk of the moderators, as to whether they want to have a clean forum or not.

            Regards

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            He think he knows everything, but who cares about English, he is in anguish and consults multiple dictionaries to little his comments with Latin and I am sure he got an “E” in his G,C.E
            Did you see his response to Saleh.
            I actually do not think they should ban him, he is exposing his stupidity
            Gheteb, tell us what happened to Dolly, the sheep your relative

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Sem,

            This self-elevated know all 👩‍💻 person must be exposed until his family and relatives hate him of becoming the instrument of the bloody despot. Look how he respond to Saleh. He behave like normal person, because he knew he will be banned if he responded otherwise. Imagine if the comment by Saleh had been commented by any other sensible person, as is, he would react like mad dog and come with a comment of all kinds of lies. And of course with the familiar chains of adverbs that amount nothing. A cone is always a clone as hinted by.,,,,,,,,,,

            Regards

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Ammanuel,
            Ageb. A million ageb. I am disappointed by your comment, “Look how he respond to Saleh. He behave like normal person, because he knew he will be banned if he responded otherwise.”

            According to your observation, is that my record in this forum Ammanuel? Did I do what you implied with anyone ever?

            Dear Ammanuel, I was abused in this forum more than many people and if everyone who abused and insulted me was banned, I will be the only one in left in this forum. I pride myself for having an alligator’s skin and you cannot deny me that. You know that very well and that is why your comment is unfair, in fact it is defamatory. I hope you think it over because other people are reading and I am sure they have a better judgement about my behavior.

          • iSem

            Hi Saleh:
            I think Emma can rephrase it better, I believe he misspoke.
            But if you have banned everyone who abused you will not be alone, because ,iSem would not banned, Sal would not, HA would not, Amde would not, Horizon would not, Tes would not
            Only Nitricc, dawit, Gheteb, Abi and a few handful from current active memembers would be banned as abused
            Please correct me

          • Haile S.

            Hi iSem,
            Meaning the ‘passive’ members like me are exempt from this decree:)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Saleh,

            I have no doubt that you are abused than any person, even long before this forum is created. I defended you against your defamers when they were calling you Ali Salim as if all the articles penned by Ali Salim was authored by you. There are many occasions, encountered by some shamelessly told me that my friends (the two Saleh) are Islamist. I resisted them by and told them, that you are by far liberal than them. I vindicated day after day by the steadfastness and unflinching liberal view you stood for. But no question, I am totally disappointed by the moderators to let this forum to be a platform for an exchange of insults and denigration. I mean it. I believe on three strikes and out (three warning and out).

            The decent people do not have option except to defend themselves with the same kind. Once upon a time, Aboy Mewael advised us to “respond for a street men by their own language”-for that is the only language they can understand. So my friend your pain is my pain for you are one of those whom I call my comrade in this struggle. If you take me to the public opinion court, I will stand and defend myself (just kidding).

            Regards

        • iSem

          Hi BY:

          Gheteb’s organization even when they were a tad better than their current self, used to say this when someone express fear of them,” merih wudbnna hanti haba tiyit keman neaka aytifieen”, our vanguard organization will not lose even one bullet on you, not worth it.

          So your testa does not deserve to be wasted on Gheteb, I have a better idea and also now we will know when he come here.

          By the way, Gheteb was the one who told the late M.Gabir that he was initiated in Ella-Abdella, when he argued with him and Gabir asked were you initiated in Filfil:-)

        • ‘Gheteb

          Berhe Y,

          Do you mean your “Testa” and “Kassoti”? I have not forgotten your threats of violence and I have your comment saved. Tell you what? I am REALLY scared.

          Seriously though, I think you are hopelessly missing your life under Mengistu Hailemariams Derg in Asmara of the 80s. You are so wistfully whimsical about your life under the Derg that anyone like ‘Gheteb who exposes or stands against it, then it automatically elicits your VIOLENT side of your character.

          Poor you, Berheway, you are pathetic and no better than the one who resides in Ontario Housing Project, Semere Andom.

          • Berhe Y

            Gheteb,

            You are sick and pethetic and I am glad you remember. You are not hard to find trust me.

            You mocked a person who was put to prison for no reason but pure jealousy, and for the lack of treatment made to go blind. On top of that, his wife and child drowned while trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea.

            I have seen a lot of IA worshippers but nothing like you. Compared to you and the devil you worship, yes I badly miss the Derg.

            Berhe

          • ‘Gheteb

            Berhe Y,

            Were you by any chance a member of Derg’s notorious security apparatus that went by the name, ” የደርግ የጸጥታ ኣጥበቃ ኣባል ” who have terrorized many innocent Eritreans based on information passed by Eritrean snitches.

            The streak of your violent temperament is quite telling and I recommend that you attend anger management classes.

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            You sound like Jack Nicholson from ” Anger Management “. Very mean.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            Every time he looses a debate, this Berhe Y dude keeps threatening that he is either going to punch me with a box or head -butt me with his head. I see a streak of violent temperament. You are discouraging from addressing his violence prone side of his character in an anger management class. Shame on you, Abi.

            I think he was a member of Derg’s ” የደርግ የጸጥታ ጥበቃ ጓድ ” . Were also a member, Abi?

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            Hawuna Berhe is the most harmless person in this forum.
            Abi derg member? Really? እግዚአብሔር ይቅር ይበልህ::

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            I am not talking about Berhe in this Forum. He is threatening to find me, in real and not in the virtual world, and attack me using a “Testa’ (Head-butt) and a “Bugna” ( a punch). Now like a mafiosa he is saying the threat is in the table [ note that the threat is not ON the table but IN the table]

            Here is the threat:

            ” Berhe Y ‘Gheteb • 7 hours ago
            Gheteb,
            You know how I would settle my disagreement with you.
            It’s still in the table…MeAltiKa Halu. — this phrase in Tigrigna means “wait for your day”
            Berhe”

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            በርሄ ጀጋኑ ለማንም አይተኛ
            ያጋጫል በቴስታ ይደግማል በቡኛ!!!
            I just want to know which Tim Horton’s the testa and bugna will be taking place.
            I’ll be there. Watching bugna while sipping buna.
            አይዞህ ወንድሜ አትፍራ
            ወንድ ልጅ ታሞ እንጂ ፈርቶ አይሞትም!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            Ha! Ha! Ha!… I had a belly laugh. Thanks Abi.

            Now I want your honest opinion on this. If someone wrote ” I was so emotional that I cried and my tears wetted my cheeks and my hair hair.

            Now do you think the person who wrote that line is a male or a female? I am looking for your honest and straightforward answer.

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            Straightforward answer from Ras Abi?
            If a person is crying while laying down the tears can roll down towards her hair. And a Queen is expected to have a beautiful hair that covers her face and more. We are talking about Abyssinian Queen here.
            “ፀጉሯ ወርዶ ወርዶ
            ይጠቀለላል እንደ ዘንዶ”
            You know sometimes a woman’s long hair gets in the way. If you know what I mean. It can easily cover a crying lady’s face.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            Thank you for your straightforward answer. If I were to take your answer as the most plausible explanation, then I am left thinking how did your “QUEENS” cheeks got wet. Imagine the person lying down. The tears will flow sideways and not down to wet one’s cheeks. Now do you see where your explanation is failing and has huge holes?

            Think Abi. Think hard Abi. Think even harder like General Abi Abebe!

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            Allow me to stop thinking and start crying to see where my tears flow. Have you ever seen a woman with a beautiful hair laying down? I’m sure you have made somebody cry. From what I read you can even make a camel cry.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            Woha! Woha! Ha! Ha!….. I just got off the floor from guffawing and I am still slapping my thighs. I tell you what, Abi. You are a hoot and a riot. I can’t stop laughing!

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            I got off from my dictionary checking ” guffawing “.
            So far I noticed two types of laughs.
            Guffawing and belly laughing.
            Do you also do belly dancing and goofing around ?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            No belly dancing and no goofing around, but a lot of belly slapping because I can’t stop imagining Abi lying down to see which way his tears rolled down.

            I was lying down and with all the laughter and the tears induced through all the belly laughter, I saw my tears rolling neatly side ways on my face. I have proved that the only thing that got wet was the side of my upper cheeks on the orbital side of my face and my facial hair only.

            I checked the hair on my head and did NOT find the minutest amount of tears. None at all. But on my facial hair, I needed a towel to dry the tears.

          • Abi

            ‘Gheteb
            How long is your hair. I always cut my hair short. I always shave clean.
            If I cry there is always somebody by my side who rushes to wipe my face with her long hair. You sound lonely.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            I think your experiment on where tears roll while one is lying down needs to be done scientifically without other intervening actors. I ask you that you re-try to conduct this experiment without others interfering like I did mine far way from my family members in one of the living rooms.

            You think ‘Gheteb is lonely? I wish I was sometimes. Though I don’t talk about my private life, my family size is much bigger than yours and you can imagine if that leaves much space or time to leave one to feel lonely.

            Now go back and re-do the experiment and I can’t stop laughing. HaHaHa….

          • Abi

            Hi ‘Gheteb
            The last time I cried was 1993 after the referendum. That time my tears were coming down nonstop. I tried to recreate the situation. This time it made me laugh until my clean shaven face was wet. My wife said ” I knew I married a toothless “. She did not wipe my tears this time.
            Looking for a cyber “wipe and dry” service.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Gheteb,
            It is very low tactic to shut a female down is to point out that she may not be female or that she has beard etc. Really shameful.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Abrehet Yosief,

            How am I “shutting a female by using a very low tactic”? Do you see me holding a female’s hand from making her point or explaining a question that I have raised. No, you don’t.

            Now please don’t tell me to check sources other than EriTv.

            Your take in this issue is a good example of “ዝኣኽለን ጥሒነን በኣለ ማርያም ይብላ”.

          • Hayat Adem

            Uncle Gheteb,
            Do you really want to follow me to the rest room to check which door I open? My goodness, did i ever ask any gender-based subsidy or favor from you or from this forum? What is you beef here? Are you comfortable with yours? Do you contemplate to exchange your thing with my thing?
            I meet your ideas with my ideas. I never care to under your clothes. Be a man, meet me there with your impotent ideas. And don’t flag up your fear everyone says some thing. Scared of Berhe? No place to hide. No skirt to run into.
            When you were new to this forum and started arguing with me, I said something like, “at the end of your debate with me, you will come out with bruises everywhere.” And you were crying of violence for weeks. And now this from Berhe made jump over the couch. Oh, men come to this world with different guts and, and some with SEVERED balls and shivering….lol
            I’ve a friend who believes and says, death is not to be feared, and she is not afraid of a death because she will not meet it. She would this: “If death comes to me, I’m no more. If I’m breathing, death is away. I can’t be afraid of an enemy i will never meet. it is a kind total displacement and never was co-occupancy”.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hayat Adem,

            ” i have felt tears wetting my chicks and hairs”.

            You know I don’t pay much heed to most of your dishonest comments and I don’t bother to respond to what you write even if it is directed against me. That should tell you that I don’t put much weight to whatever you say. But this sentence needs some explanation from your side.

            The afore-quoted sentence has not been explained logically. The only person who has tried to offer an explanation is Abi. His explanation fails to be convincing because in Abis’s explanation your tears may wet your hair, but not your cheeks. Therefore, that doesn’t hold water.

            You see I didn’t even bother to correct the word you used “chick” instead of “cheek”. The way I understand what you write is usually by directly translating it into Tigrigna. That is also the way I end up deciphering what your pal Amanuel Hidrat writes. So, I have little problem understanding your writings and that of Amanuel Hidrat simply by using Tigrigna translation.

            Let us say that you are right that I am scared witless of your violent dispositions and that of Berhe Y. And, which door you open in the bathroom, won’t really tell me anything at this day and age.

            Yeah, sure why don’t you explain the sentence I have quoted above instead of going in all directions to offer irrelevant information. You are bragging that you are into “meeting your ideas with my ideas”. So why can’t you tackle the idea I have put forward as being utterly ILLOGICAL and you are challenged to bring out a coherent explanation.

            BTW, I don’t give much attention to what Semere Andom says in defense of whatever you say. This person has an unresolved issue that has something to do with his mother as his is the son of the village of Kuhli Zibee ( Kohl of Hyena).

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Hayat Adem,
            My hats off to you for being able to continue with this discussion. The reason many of our sisters don’t join such discussion is because there will always be someone who twists the issue to embarrass them.

          • Berhe Y

            Gheteb,

            Person of your character shouldn’t be trusted to be left alone with minors. There is no limit to your evilness, like your god.

            Berhe

      • Hayat Adem

        Gheteb,
        You are so carried away with your own follies. AG is not a TPLF member, let alone a cc member. If you ask me, he looks too large to fit into any political organization. But you cheering up Nitricc in mood ofLII, love-in-ignorance makes me optimistic. At least, you are loving someone. So some level of humanness is still in you.

    • Abraham H.

      Hi Nitricc, where is your source?

  • KBT

    Selamat kulukhum
    Hey did you know that the president Ismail Omar amended the constitution for a third term
    And 2016 for a 4th term ???
    did you know he jailed many opposition ??
    Did you know he is one of the richest man of Africa when he was chef de cabinet mean even he become president ??
    Where do you think he get that money Djibouti don’t produce anything
    Did you know also there is interruptions of electricity since 15 years in summer when it’s 50 degree ??
    and finally did you shew SCHAT with him ???kkkk
    We don’t need Ethiopia the Arab are paying fare more better .
    And off course they don’t want a war isn’t Ethiopia who pushed them according to Wikileaks

    • Abraham H.

      Selam KBT, “the Arab are paying far more better”, how much did the Eri gov get from the Arabs, and where is the revenue going to? Did it have any impact in the downtrodden economy of Eritrea? What about the mining activities that have been going on since 2011; precious metals, and base metals such as copper and zink have been mined for years. Has this mining activity contributed anything in terms of economic revival of Eritrea, and hence limiting the exodus of hopeless people?

      • KBT

        Selamat
        Abraham don’t fool your little brain you know my president is not corrupt like yours with 10 digit still starving,where is all the foreign aid ??
        Your people are feeding garbage and you are asking about eritrean wealth. ??

        • Abraham H.

          Selam KBT, ” your president” is not only engaged in the usual type of corruption of embezzlement; but in corruption of the highest order as in killing a once hopeful nation, disappearing thousands of people, and facilitating the depopulation of Eritrea through his anti-Eritreans policies. There is a glimpse of hope, though, your demi-god is 70 years old and his days are numbered.

          • KBT

            Selamat
            So is that you people waiting ??
            He will live long long long life
            Hey will never get his age you will die by aids like your kind agamino

          • Abraham H.

            Hi KBT, of course, the dictator out of the picture wouldn’t mean all good and dandy at once; but at least the evil in our country would be severed at the head. About the aids thing, I don’t want to go so low as you.

          • KBT

            Selamat
            Abraham don’t be shy you are from the other mereb side, those cursed one, libi xxxxxxx

  • Robel Cali

    Hey everyone

    I’m pretty sure when Ethiopia was using Assab between 1991-1998, it was doing so for free. So when the Ethiopian regime stopped using Assab’s free service, it hurt Ethiopia more so than Eritrea. Ethiopia is paying US$750 million per year to use Djibouti’s port when they were getting that same service for free with Eritrea.

    Also, Meles was wrong (like usual). Camels can’t drink sea water.

    • Hayat Adem

      Robel,
      Some fact checks and one observation in order:
      1) Eritrea was making 90 million dollar prior to the war
      2) Djibouti makes much higher than what you put up here.
      PS: Your measurement of success seems based on how much Ethiopia lost, not on how much Eritrea gained.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Hayat, I know you will do anything to make TPLF what they are not and defend their indefensible act. What are your sources that Eritrea was making 90 million dollar from Ethiopia using the Eritrean port?
        How much does your corrupted Djibouti make from your corrupted weyane?
        Don’t worry about Eritrea measuring her success due to Ethiopia’s failure . Since your PM told the parliament that government officials loot 100 million but he won’t tell which officials and which killil. lol democracy my foot. there is no better failure. Oh you get your thing and your PM wants you to collect gold with your SEFED. lol oh my god. Hayat what you don’t know is Eritrea has moved on.

        • Thomas

          Hi Nitricc,
          Yes, indeed, Eritrea has moved on. Eritrea/ns are moving to the refuge centers in Tigray. The real Erireans never saw that coming. I have to tell, your master is doing a great job on that!!

          • KBT

            Selamat
            Baal libom tuway mengedom tuwuway ,do you think you can mislead her woyanita
            Those are Ethiopian kunama,Ethiopian afar,and you speech about humanity,
            Maybe we should ask the Oromo and Amhara you massacred in day light
            Anout your humanity ,

          • Nitricc

            Hey KBT; Please for give him. he is not normal. he is Agazi in closet.

      • Robel Cali

        Hi Hayat

        1. Provide a source that said Eritrea was making 90 million dollars prior to 1998 because according to the IMF, Ethiopia was using Eritrea’s port for free:

        “As stipulated under an intergovernmental transit and port services agreement as well as a customs arrangement (amended annually), the port of Assab is a free port for Ethiopia, with its own Ethiopian customs branch office, and goods shipped to or from Ethiopia remain exempt from the Eritrean customs duties and related charges.”

        2. Also, the figure I gave is from 2008. Recent figures are hard to come by but they are certainly higher, which proves my point even more that the Ethiopian regime is suffering more.

        3. Your measurement of failure for Assab is based on how Ethiopia left and not how much Eritrea didn’t really lose much from its free service.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Robel,

          I don’t think the fee Hayat indicated was port fee/tarrif but port services fee that Ethiopia use to spend in Assab, for example to pay the people that worked there etc.

          Now with Djibouti not only it needs to pay port fees (for use of the port) but it has also to pay tariffs for goods destined to Ethiopia.

          Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Berhe,
            Initially, yes, it was all that and all different kinds of charges like docking fee for example. But later on, it included a full blown port fees. Let me explain: the so called free port was just free only in a name. The agreement of free port was tied up with the functioning of the oil refinary plant. Ethiopia used to import crude oil. Process it at the Assab refinary. Although the crude oil was bought obviously in hard currency, Eritrea was getting its all refined oil from Ethiopia by birr. The refinary plant was so old that it was costing Ethiopia more than the price of importing refined oil right from the source. So Ethiopia decided to import refined oil and shut the refinary at Assab 1996?). Immediately then, Eritrea imposed port fees.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hatay,

            Thank you for sharing. I agree that economic conflict is what lead to the fallout of the two governments. Conflict and misunderstanding is normal as long as the two countries take the normal legal route to resolve it, it wouldn’t matter as much. For example between Canada and US, as best trading partner as they are, there is some conflict that prop up now and then that they sue each other even go all the way to WTO to resolve it.

            Had they agreements was based on normal agreements, then they would have able to seek solution legally instead of war and armed conflict.

            It’s unfortunate that the Eritrean people are still paying the heavy burden of that conflict, and to smaller degree the people of Tigray.

            Like our parents use to say to us, when we fight with our siblings “Eza geza nKliteKum Sebibatkum”.

            It pains me to see smart and capable people from our countries spend all our time and energy discussing arguing about trivial matter (like getting along) and instead of focusing our energy in something else that can contribute to the development / well being of our countries and people.

            I don’t know what you do for living but I wish I could read (from: Amde) how he setup a car plant and employ thousands of people, how I wish to read from (Saay: how he can market a small scale business from Ethiopia or Eritrea and turn it a 100 million company and creat work opportunity for thousands of people), how I wish to read (from:tes) how to build a food processing plant and help market the goods and create thousands of jobs), how I wish to read (from:fanti) that he established world class healthcare facilities with collaboration of the many thousands of Ethiopian / ERITREAN doctors and specialists and create so many jobs and medical tourists) and many of you experts in your chosen field.

            And let’s look around, where is the evidence among our people, this suppose to be conflict (that’s taking 70 or so years) to resolve reflected. Are our people killing each other, hating each other.

            Even with all this hate and conflict, let’s compare with others who are going through similar conflicts (Iran/Iraq, Russia /Ukraine, S/N Korea, S. Sudan/Sudan, Ruwanda), etc.

            How come we have no politician, who can speak of optimism, of love, of hope that can bring us and shape our future instead of telling us of hate, our difference, our problems.

            Fanti if you are reading please write your speech and make it happen. You have the ability and the talent to speak to everyone.

            I am tired to hearing the likes of Gheteb, Nitric and others.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Berhe,
            I should be honest to tell you this: reading your note and about half way, i have felt tears wetting my chicks and hairs. I think this will hold me enough for the day and I am not going to read anyother note until next day. I think some kind of consciousnsness is flowering in this house. Bless you all. Bless the room.
            Hayat

        • Hayat Adem

          Robel,
          1) i will but ask to know more and not to challenge some one.
          2) it doesn’t matter what your claim was but numbers and facts must be presented as are.
          3) didn’t get your 3rd point.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Hayat,

        Dear Hayat if I am not mistaken the number is over a Billion to Djibouti.

        If I may ask the same question? should Ethiopia measure it’s success by NOT how much Eritrea is hurt but by how much Ethiopia is losing?.

        90 million to billion, granted the economy of Ethiopia has grown a lot since, but it’s no brainier, no justification what so ever to pay this much just because.

        I personally think the Ethiopian government leaders and not this stupid to let this happen…I think and I suspect that, by denying the revenue Eritrea needs, they are playing the cards to see Eritrea economy collapse and Eritrea disintegrate and failed states just like Somalia so Ethiopia can dictate what ever it wanted, to whom ever comes to power. Just like it does in Somalia.

        It’s like short term pain for long term gain……which is proving to be a wrong policy now that the arabs are playing in the game and in it’s measure of influence.

        If there is new policy towards Eritrea, I think Ethiopia is probably reviewing this failed policy as a much expensive venture and find an alternative to this dollar bleeding venture.

        Abi is proud to tell us how Eritrea wants to chock Ethiopia, while Djibouti is ready to rescue us. The fact couldn’t have been farther from the truth.

        Today Djibouti, asks all the port fees and payment in hard currency, not Birr as was in Eritrea.

        Djibouti does not allow any goods to leave the port without getting letter of credit from Ethiopia with hard currency….

        But off course, they are willing to bully, escalate war on poor Eritrea because it has no “Ally” but they are like a mice in a water when it comes to “Djibouti” because it is protected by the big “French”.

        Berhe

        • iSem

          HI BY:
          I do not think Ethiopia wants a failed Eri state, because failed Eritrean is not good for Ethiopia; it will be a fertile place for terrorists, hideout for rebellion, remember the landscape is what defeated Dergi not IA. So failed Eri like Somalia is a nightmare for Ethiopia. Weak government, yest, but not failed stated. If they were that stupid they could have created the failed state of Eri, they could do now.
          Also rem they are investing in Eritreans, at least MZ was: recognizing the blunder of the sweeping deportation, returning most of the assets, allowing students to attend universities, this is all investing in Eritreans, even if later they want to go there to make a failed state down the road, at least the ppl will not view them as their enemies but the enemies of the PFDJ,
          If you talk to most of Eritreans who crossed the border and have lived in the refugee camps, they do speak good about Tigray, :they welcomed us, they were not perfect but we were safe, safer than in our country”, that is telling
          If the economy keeps growing, as many people are pulled from poverty, they may need extra port access and it is possible that the Djiouti and Kenya access maybe have bottle necks to choke their growth so the port access through Assab is not yet closed, but I do not believe they want to accomplish it through a failed stated, if there is anyone who wants Eri failed is PFDJ and because of the last war, the Eritrean thinking has for ever changed, the dying for nothing, paying heavy prices for a place that its temp can reach 55 degrees, without the benefit of enjoying its best endowment, the port blessing, just so you can brag that you have sea access has ended. Whatever government comes in Eri has its work cut for it, it will never get the free slave labour thta PFDJ enjoyed and Ethiopia will have the power to twist the arm, the clout to use Asseb almost for nothing, and may be in the long term make it part of Ethiopia, it as several arrows in its quiver to clinch Asseb while Eri, no matter what government comes after PFDJ only has one.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            If you are taking rationally then I agree with you. Ok failed state may be the wrong word, but certainly an Eritrea under the influence of Ethiopia using “friendly and sympathetic opposition groups”, which I don’t think it’s all that bad.

            The strategy I was talking about is, what you said in your last sentence “may be in the long term make it part of Ethiopia, it as several arrows in its quiver to clinch Assab while Eri, no matter what government comes after PFDJ only has one.”.

            Off course they will not be able to do that, if Eritrea has a functioning democratic government which is governed by the rule of law and all it’s habitats share the wealth.

            Why does the Ethiopian government chose to spend almost a billion dollars in hard currency to use port of Djibouti which it can use Assab for free? Over the past 15 years we are talking a lot of money? Do you see any rational in this?

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:

            “Why does the Ethiopian government chose to spend almost a billion dollars in hard currency to use port of Djibouti which it can use Assab for free? Over the past 15 years we are talking a lot of money? Do you see any rational in this?”
            Of course, I see rationale in this: they did no have a choice, they had a falling with PFDJ. But from Eri perspective, it is stupid idea to throw that money, just because of that money, PFDJ should have avoided the war, even if TPLF was provoking them. I think IA though he will win the war, it backfired because no one dared to tell him the truth.
            We think the situation is bad now, it would have been even worse for Eri and the region had PFDJ was able to go all the way to Addis and Ethiopia was disintegrated and became failed state
            I think we should still count our blessing

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            You are not being logical here and you are omitting facts purposely.

            Do you think they could not close this disagreement by accepting the boarder ruling and normalization of trade between the countries for their own self interest?

            Who is giving excuse for not accepting the ruling? Do you think any sane person would disagree with them (including Isayas) if the boarder demarcated (at least give him no excuse).

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            Think of it: If you believe, like I do, the war was IA’s plans, Ethiopia had no intention, it was not even prepared, Eri’s military was more prepared and superior when the war started, if you believe, Ethiopia did not have a choice and even then MZ did not want the war, the hawks like Siye wanted it, if you believe that PFDJ was so arrogant and thought they will reach Addis, if you believe that PFDJ run mafia market in their embassy in Addis, the you will conclude that Ethiopia will never trust IA again, so they are giving him a “brand name” rope to hang himself, and the “give him no excuse” is a myth, because when IA thought the border would be demarcated and Ethiopia would withdraw he had the slavery project, so by staying put they are slowly torturing him and IA got the message tardi when MZ was cold during the signing and his pleas to reconcile, like Rabbin did to Arrafat. But they do not want PFDJ to go over night because IA is protecting their Northern border for free.
            Besides the pain for Ethiopia is minimal paying 1 billion to different provider or to Eritrea but as you said they do have their eye in the long term, I think they are looking after their interests shrewdly, but they do not want to see failed state at least for now.
            It has been said you cannot eat your cake and have it, Ethiopia is eating its cake and still saving it:-)

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            I am talking after the fact, after the boarder demarcation decision was reached. “Ethiopia thought Eritrea a lesson that they will not forget” as they wanted to do.

            Is there any rational that they will have to pay that much to teach someone a lesson? If the normalize relationship, the person they wanted to teach a lesson will be over thrown by his people as he has no more excuse? And they will have a responsible government to deal with in the future.

            As far as Somalia goes, I think Ethiopia invasion was not justified. They wanted to create a situation to create and expand the terror war so they can get American money and support.

            Somalia was doing just fine….

            Berhe

          • iSem

            BY:
            Sure, but teh ware was bloody, onluy in IA’s mind the hug and signing would solve everything overnight and normalize, business as usual, they had to have access, and the provider had no immediate competition, they needed access for the 2 years while the war was going on
            Trust issue as I said and Horizon said and I think they calcualted the trade off, but u are correct, pound for pound, historical usage, little shorter distance many other benefits, but having depproted the ppl, it is not even safe for them, they would not know what the Eritreans would have done, and even PFDJ to get back at them for the humiliation, so it is not just numbers. In a perfect word yes, in the damage after the war, dangerous so it is more than the bottom line.
            in Purely profit sense, yet. But if you do a research and what Ethio lost, what it gained by allowing Asseb to become like Tes described, and including the life line that would have given IA to survive for ever, it was good decision. they wanted him to slowly die, they can have the deal later and they also diversified with Kenya , they built the road with Sudan and, like after Adam ate the fruit, the war forced them open their eyes.
            Do u think they could have done better with Asseb and if yes, how much better

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            Which part of free access of port you do not understand. Ethiopia didn’t need to diversify because the port of Assab was just symbolic to Eritrea, but Ethiopia was almost the owner. It operated at it’s own.

            If you are saying Ethiopia is better off for not having anything to do with Eritrea, then I can accept that. And if you are saying, Ethiopia is willing to pay 1 billion dollars a year so it has nothing to do with Eritrea then I can accept that.

            What ever growth Ethiopia experienced since the war it has nothing to do with Eritrea. They would have achieved it regardless and Eritrea was never in any position to stop/ slow them down.

            If you say in all this Eritrea is the bigger loser, I agree with you. And it’s not because of Ethiopia lack of use of it’s ports, but because the political situation IA created after.

            I was not saying right after the war stopped, but when the boarder was demarcated, there is no reason why normalization wouldn’t have started, whether Isayas was there or not, it would not have changed much.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            Yes, the Ethiopians could have saved lots of money by using our Assab port. However, do you know for sure that would be possible while Issayas is around and you probably also need to make sure they have to tell that to the rest of the Ethiopians/the Ethiopian people and they do also have parliaments to discuss about? Remember issayas is very difficult to work with and to trust. Remember, everyone non-profit or UN or humanitarian organization was let to leave Eritrea. All Eritrean business men was let to go and do their business somewhere else? So, do you think the Ethiopian leaders were encouraged by this conduct of Issayas to speak with him? About the border, they ask him to talk to them because they wanted to be guaranteed that there will not be another badme. Think about this, Bro.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Thomas,

            We do not know that….what will Isayas do or doesn’t. what we know for sure would be, he will not use the boarder excuse to stay in power for ever. They gave him the excuse he was looking to stay in power.

            Ethiopia has always the option to move it’s goods anywhere else it wanted, had Eritrea become a threat to it’s business.

            I don’t understand why IA has to do so much to damage the well being of Eritreans, like the economy, rule of law, etc.

            Sure Ethiopia is doing good from humanitarian aspects of Eritreans, but the Eritreans would have been better off if they were at their homes, working and supporting themselves, had it Ethiopia removed the “cloud of war” that the Isayas government has been playing.

            Sometimes, I feel like both TPLF/PFDJ are colliding to disintegrate Eritrea.

            I have no other explanation. It makes no rational sense why both are willing to pay so much to squeeze the Eritrean people in between.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berha,

            I can only tell you I would be less motivated to sign a contract with:
            a) A dictator leading a nation by the power of guns and where there is no a constitutional government to be held to and to talk to
            b) Why would the Ethiopia leaders talking with a dying dictator. They see a disgusting dictator executing his own people.
            c) Issayas and his group are unpredictable and unstable in the way the conduct business.
            e) Some Ethiopians see the current rulers of Ethiopia as agent of Eritrea for they approved our Referendum and recognized the result referendum immediately right after. Handing badme without conditions would increase the resentment of Ethiopians in seeing the ruling party/EPRDF party.

          • Amde

            Selam Berhe,

            “Why does the Ethiopian government chose to spend almost a billion dollars in hard currency to use port of Djibouti which it can use Assab for free? Over the past 15 years we are talking a lot of money? Do you see any rational in this?”

            It was not free as we found out. Proponent of Free/Open Source software like to clarify “Free” as being “Free like free beer” or “Free like freedom”. I doubt very much isayas would have instigated the war if he didnt think he can apply an economic chockhold.

            There is no way Ethiopia will have an agreement on Assab use without an airtight security arrangement. And there is no way Ethiopia will hand over its money so it can be used to buy arms against itself.

            Amde

          • iSem

            hi Amde”
            “There is no way Ethiopia will have an agreement on Assab use without an airtight security arrangement. And there is no way Ethiopia will hand over its money so it can be used to buy arms against itself.’
            It took me too comments to say that; given the animosity of the deportation, the war etc, Ethiopia would be stupid to use Assab after the war, there was a reason for the 25km zone
            Berhe is looking at the numbers

          • Dear Berhe Y.,

            Eritrea, as a failed state with its strictest sense will not happen, as there will always be a strong government internally. Nevertheless, this can not be interpreted into economic development and prosperity, and eritrea will continue to lag behind in this respect.

            Ethiopia should be mad if she ever tries again to make eritrea part of ethiopia by force. It is equivalent to creating a big problem for no reason at all. Eritrea will always be attracted by ethiopia, and she will not be able to function independently free of ethiopia’s influence one way or the other, and at one stage she will be forced to work with ethiopia for her own good.
            Indeed, eritreans studying in ethiopian elementary and secondary schools and universities, and learning the language (for the culture is the same) could be seen as part of the program of keeping eritreans in a very close proximity for the sake of future political and social development that may follow.

            No more war is required to bring eritrea back, but only to live the door open. This is the most scary thing for pfdj. It knows it, and that is why it keeps the people under an iron grip and under the shoot to kill order, because although eritrea will continue to be politically an independent country, nevertheless, economically and socially it will always be attracted towards ethiopia, and the pfdj is afraid that this will undermine its long term survival.

            When ethiopia was attacked by dia and her port outlet was closed, it was djibouti which came to her rescue (abi). Ethiopia was caught more or less in her sleep (isem). Djibouti showed that it was a friend in need, and a dependable one, and ethiopia does not want to forget this. Remember, dia attacked djibouti to punish her for this, and not really for a piece of land. Ethiopia will continue to work with djibouti on the economic field.

            In conclusion, eritrea will have a strong ruler at least in the short term and she will continue as a state, nevertheless, if she will ever have a strong economy and free people under this regime is another matter.

          • michelda

            Hi Berhe Y

            First;- the dividends from peace, stability and lawfulness in the past 15 years is more than enough for ethiopia as evidences in its growth.

            Second;- it’s a war of attrition; to Outwit,Outplay,Outlast between a small nation that can’t afford it and its larger neighbor that can.

            Third;- it is more than just about assab port, it’s about the the whole lopsided, exploitative economic relationship that existed…(according ethiopians).

            Fifth;- it doesn’t matter; ethiopia is going to pay for port use to its neighbors and it need to diversify it option.

            Six;- its about power play, eritrea’s desire to hold ransom and replace ethiopia as a powerhouse of the region including internal ethiopian political.

            Most of all its psychological…. By the way; what makes you think ethiopia wants eritrea to succeed as a nation?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Michelda,

            “what makes you think ethiopia wants eritrea to succeed as a nation?”

            At least you are honest and thank you for that.

            I agree to all you said and it’s Ethiopia’s desire to spend it resources as it wishes. The whole thing started one an Ethiopian claimed that Eritrean government and Eritrean people desired to “chock Ethiopia”, which I didn’t agree.

            We heard we are one people, we are brothers, we are blood relatives etc but it’s been through out Ethiopia history and all past leaders have always never hold their words.

            If you think outwitting and outsmarting Eritrea, and there is honour to it, let it be my friend.

            You know there is different ways and means to get what you wanted, for your own selfish reason.

            Eritrea no worst enemy that its own son Isayas Afeworki. Sometimes I believe he is doing the dirty work on behalf of whomever, and we will overcome this.

            Trust me, Ethiopia and Ethiopians will always be welcome, but Eritrea best days are ahead.

            Eritreans where ever they go, what ever they do, always, always have done well, even under difficult circumstances and I have no doubt we will do well once we achieve peace.

            Berhe

          • michelda

            Hi again Berhe

            Sorry to tell you this but there is no way eritrea will recover from the damage that is done to it by Isayas Afeworki anytime soon. He has disintegrated the social fabric of eritrea.

            As for being “we are brothers, we are blood relatives etc”,… that too was/is alway been lopsided. For evidence check out the hashtag “I Am Not habesha” that is going on right now on twitter.

            Anyway I wish you good luck…

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Michelda,

            First I think the “I Am Not Habesha” crowed do not represent Eritreans. I had my arguments with them at some time but they are just brain washed lots which amount to nothing.

            Second, I think majority of Eritreans are victims of Isayas regime and when he is gone, I don’t think it will be hard to find a common ground to recover.

            Third: if he is a real threat to the existence of Ethiopia, perhaps Ethiopia should send it’s special operations unit and fetch him just like the US did to Noriega:).

            Berhe

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Berhe,
          Berhe, I like you and your comments are very sharp and tend to be falling along the truth line. i sometimes sense you try to check with in case i’m favoring more the ethiopian interest over ours. i kind of sensed but i took no pain. it is just i want reasonable people like to see where i’m coming from. it is my aboslute and establsihed view that there is no much to gain at best, and much to lose at worst from looking ethioia as an adversary. this is because, first there are no excessive or unreasonable demands targeted at the expense of eritreas vital interest from ethiopia at this time. nothing at all. the way ethiopi’s and eritrea’s national economic and geopolitical interests can be configured as totally complementarily interdependent. this is an important concept. more on this a bit later. i think i understand this situation and i want to break it at least at the thinking level. so, the misunderstanding and suspicions are understandable but i always cringe at the thought of a smart and reasonable person of your level having such feelings about me. in my own world, i am thinking of the best thing for eritrea. going forward, judge my points with the following litmus test: is this good for eritrea? why and how?
          There is no question the stalemate is hurting both. Imagine how painful it must have been for ethiopian’s to hastily shift the traffic to djibouti which was not ready and in shape to absorb such bulk of goods coming in and going out. but they felt it necessary because they were victims of aggression in the north. it was a war opened on them and you can’t blame someone for not staying in business with you while shooting at him at the same time. but looking forward, they may want to use it after the residuals of the war are not settled; after there is trust restored and talk between the two gvts are resumed.
          I don’t see both governments in power right now solving this. the reason i asked Robel about loss/gain because he said because ethiopia is paying this much to djibouti and cheering about the loss. if ethiopians are cheering just for same reason about the loss eritrea is incurring due to the collapse of the traffic and the gateway via the eritrean ports, it is the same the same logic. but as eritrean, one needs to think the loss of an opportunity on this side, and ethiopians on their side.
          yes, i agree with you, it is all in hard currency and it has become a windfall feast for djibouti and a true loss to both ethiopia and eritrea.
          going forward, ethiopia and eritrea msut set their eyes on mending ways and unleash the potential of cooperation. i always say, if there are two economies that are the fittest for cooperation and complementarity (as opposed to competition and gaming), it ethiopia’s and eritrea’s. they grow or shrink togehter. there is no room for one side gain, not even for zero sum; it is a double negative. let’s both loss added up is 40 billion dollar. if Eritrea lost 20billion dollar from the total cut off from ethiopian trade and market, and ethiopia sustained the same loss from the same reason, they both loss 40 billion. it is so foolish. anyone who takes solace from thinking that the loss in this side only 15billion and the other one had in 25billion, that is comes only out of a miserable mind. politics sometimes tends to be zero-sum. science has never been about zero sum.
          going forward, we should think of making a bigger pie not cutting a smaller pie into different sizes and aiming for the bigger slice.
          i really want to be fair and objective. the war was eritrea’s making. all the provocations were from eritrea and ethiopia’s reaction was so measured and limited. given what they can do and what they have been suffering from all kinds of provocateurs, and hosting the fleeing youth and opening up opportunities, however limited, i think we should the first to acknowledge that, and i wouldn’t characterize anything of it as bullying. if eritrea has lost friends and remained ally-less, we should blame it on this banditry regime.
          going forward, the best approach would be carefully identifying all the excesses of this side and that side and put them in the right perspectives, not lumping them together.
          djibouti and ethiopia have very mutually respectful relationships and that is not bad. if you read the article above by SGJ, it tells you the djiboutians very careful and sober. they don’t allow themselves to say bad things about eritrea let alone ethiopia, ethiopia is now their bread. and they are slowly integrating themselves to the larger opportunities. their leaders speak good things about Ethiopia, address the parliament of ethiopia, talk of gradual unification, they work with ethiopia on regional issues and internationally etc. there is no mention of french forces, and they don’t stick out their neck. you must remember how are guy went to elbow djibouti for no reason and he was not afraid of the french presence there, and the djiboutians were not protected by them.
          going forward, we should learn from the amicable relationship between ethiopia and djibouti and learn to think positively for a win-win solutions.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hayat,

            Please accept my apology if you sense that, I indicated you favored Ethiopia interests over our own, not my intention.

            My response was aimed at Abi because I felt he was not telling the truth or not having the facts correct.

            You will never seem me praising IA or his government or his policy. Not now, not during the war or since and including for starting the war.

            I just do not see the rational why Ethiopia needs to spend so much money and resources to justify what?

            As far as Djibouti and Ethiopia relation ships go, I think it’s good for both. But Ethiopia is big country and Ethiopian politicians also know better that, they emotions will not be hurt if Eritrea doesn’t praise them. It’s not really about their personal feelings but about the interest of the country and the people.

            Under no circumstances, the northern part of Ethiopia (e.g. Tigray/Gonder) can be served better by Djibouti instead of Masswa.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Berhe,
            Exactly, SemA knows no mercy on anyone who messes up with Hayat, good that you knew that in time. Lol

            You are good Berhe.

        • Abi

          Hi Hawuna Berhe
          Kind of busy today.
          One thing to remind you
          I’m not proud of Djibouti port use. I’m extremely grateful!!!!!
          Will be back later for other things.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Robel Cali, I don’t think Ethiopia was using Aseb port for free, but certainly, it was cheaper than Djibouti and the services rendered in Aseb were far better than those in Djibouti at that time. Also I guess they were paying by Birr, unless I’m wrong just as other trade since the Birr was a common currency between the two countries.

      • Abi

        Hi Abraham
        It was paid by US dollars.

        • Abraham H.

          Hi Abi, thanks for info. In that case Aseb was the second largest source of hard currency to the Eri gov after the diaspora remittances. Sadly, today, the Isayas regime has put almost total ban on free movement of diaspora money to the Eritrean economy. It is a war declaration on the economy, and we are seeing its harsh consequences on the lives of Eritreans inside the country.

  • Abi

    Hi All
    A great article as always. Of course there are many developments since 2011. The train connection can be a great example.
    Here is an example how Djibouti outsmarted Eritrea at a personal level.
    In 1991 The arrogant Eritrean leader addressed Ethiopians in Arabic. The smart leader of Djibouti gives press conference in Amharic.
    As both SGJ and Hayat like to say Djibouti is eating Eritreans lunch. I think it is preparing itself to add dinner.

    • Robel Cali

      HI Abi

      Provide a source showing ‘arrogant’ Isaias speaking Arabic to Ethiopia. Yes, Isaias dislikes talking in Amharic but he would never speak Arabic to Ethiopians, especially when he can speak the global language of English. Isaias doesn’t even speak Arabic to Eritreans, so your claim seems like another fictional event that never took place.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Robel,

        I don’t agree with you on your support of the PFDJ regime but I agree with you on this one.

        Isayas did speak to the media in Addis Abeba, I think it was in 1994 or sooner in English.

        Abi, say what you want to say but you don’t have fabricate things just to score a point.

        Berhe

        • Robel Cali

          Hi Berhe:

          Here’s my view on the government:

          1. Implement the constitution

          2. Limit NS to 18 months

          3. Reform the economy

          4. National Elections within 6 months

          5. Focus on secularism

          If that’s a government supporter than I’d hate to see what an opposition is.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Robel,

            I would not have any problem with your stand then. I would also add is, free all political prisoners, and open private / independent press, shutdown special court and establish rule of law.

            As much I am very doubtful and this is a wishful thinking, it will ever materialize (because IA have declared war on the Eritrean people).

            Personally I am against NS for women. Eritrea does not have the right mechanism to protect the young women from abuse. It should be voluntary for women.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Berhe,
            Ummmm, Don’t fall for such a list. The difference between you and Robel becomes stark when you ask a simple question: what if the gvt contnues to ignore those recommendation? Obviously, you oppose the government and try to contribute to the efforts to bring change. On the contrary, Robel stands on the opposite to stop you.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Robel Cali, add to your list:

            -Free all political prisoners and prisoners of conscience
            -Investigate why people were held incommunicado for years, if not decades
            -Start negotiations with Ethiopia in order to build trust with the aim of restoring bilateral relationship and ending the final border demarcation
            -End the stranglehold of the economy by the gov. Encourage private investment both domestic and external
            -Relax the control on flow of forex to the country from the diaspora. Allow private forex businesses
            -Start a genuine process of Constitution writing by inviting all stakeholders, with the aim of multi party democracy, etc.

          • Robel Cali

            HI Abraham

            I think Eritrea’s current policy for Ethiopia is the rational one. No negotiations until you vacate from Eritrean territory. Final and Binding is Final and Binding. Eritrea is legally right and has the moral authority to demand you to leave its stolen property.

            Btw, All those recommendations you are giving for Eritrea is absent in Ethiopia. Charity begins at home.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Robel Cali, first, I’m Eritrean, unless you are one of those pfdj thugs who call those with critical views to the Isayas regime as Weyanes. Second, Eritrea is not winning anything by insisting on final and binding ruling; negotiations is needed to soften the relationship and break the impasse. Thirdly, because I’m Eritrean, my first concern is what I would like to see happening in my country; and by all measures Ethiopia is far better than Eritrea in terms of most of the issues I listed.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Robel, did you see below the Eritrean Abraham omitting what the most matters to Eritrea? I agree with your five points road map but before anything let the Border issue be solved once for all, LEGALLY! let it be to the letter of the court’s decision. Once, you have that then you go with what you have outlined. The first and the most is let the nations security and Perimeter preserved and then you move on. Let Ethiopians respect the agreed and signed for.

        • Abi

          Hi Berhe
          As always you are deprived of facts. We have discussed the same issue some years back.
          Yes, IA spoke in Arabic in Addis. He was invited to speak at the conference to establish the transitional government. He was using a translator.
          Guess what? Meles told him to stop the nonsense and he did just that.
          You haven’t been paying attention to the discussions .T Kifle was our reference. Go back and check.
          Pay attention please.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            What you are saying is really immaterial to what I was discussing. I don’t remember this discussion (may be I didn’t read it).

            What if Isayas chose to speak in Arabic, what difference does it make?
            What if an Eritrean future president visit Ethiopia / like Sudanese or Egyptian presidents who doesn’t speak Amharic, must he learn Amharic to please you.

            I read about a similar event from an Ethiopian who was present at the meeting (may be different meeting) but Melles was translating for him to Amharic. I will find the link and send you.

            You said Eritrea chocked Ethiopia and I would rather you focus on that.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Hawuna Berhe
            Fortunately, I don’t have to focus Eritrea chocking Ethiopia. It ain’t happening. IA took the rope and put it on your neck.

            IA gave his speech for hundreds of people at a big conference.
            (የኢትዮጵያ ሽግግር መንግሥት መስራች ጉባኤ)
            Not a meeting as you said it. It was a big deal.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            Why you say something if you can’t back it up?

            I am not a fan of Isayas and I don’t know what he said or done. So don’t try to make it sound like I am defending him, for things that I have no idea what it is.

            But on principle, why should it matter or if he spoke in Amharic or not? Your argument should be on what he said and what he has done rather what language he spoke. If you say he didn’t have a place in the meeting, may be you are right.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            Don’t get irritated. I am not looking for your legendary testa.

            It was corrected then and there. As I said Meles told him to stop the nonsense and he stopped. He knew he was acting stupid and arrogant. Well, that is IA. What else is new?
            Why should it matter what language he uses to address Ethiopians in their home ? Does he address Eritreans in Arabic? Does he give hours of interviews in Arabic? Was he representing an Arab country in that conference?
            We expect a little respect from an Eritrean leader when he comes to our house. That is why he got a slap on the face right there and then. Why didn’t he choose Tigrinya or English was talk of the nation.
            The Djibouti leader gave press conference in Amharic. He was not showing his Amharic knowledge. He was showing closeness, respect, cooperation, unity, trust…
            IA did exactly the opposite. And you argue why we don’t continue using your port? Or why Ethiopian airlines is not flying to Asmara?
            Really Hawuna Berhe?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            Do you have a Clip of this event ? I know IA is capable of crazy things but not this crazy, I find it really hard to believe.

            You are good at making up story that you can back up with evidence an this sounds like one of them.

            I tried and searched but couldn’t find of same / similar event that you are describing. It was told by one of Oromo intellectual who was there at the conference and spoke about melles translating Isayas speech? It was quite humiliating, how he described it.

            Amde, please help find the link, I forgot the name of the guy but he is a known Ethiopian nationalist.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Berhe,
            That must be Assefa Chaboy. If it is him, he is from the Suothern Kilil, not Oromo. But you are right he is a sophosticated politician. But the story you are talking about has some intentional* inaccuracies. There are other versions of this story. Let me just spill out what I heard and will let people who have photographic memories and who were closer to the events, correct in case of misrepresented facts.
            -Isayass was there with his deligation as an observer.
            -After some proceedings and deliberations, Isayass was invited by Meles to make remarks on the new realities and share forward-looking thoughts,
            -Isayass started speaking in Tig and it was being interpreted to Amh by Dr. Berekhet, who was really doing good but was not good enough in the eye of Isayass, who, more than once, in gesture and verbally, expressed his displeasure of the quality of the translation.
            -Meles then suggested to relieve the situation that Isayass use English, adding that he was confident IA can adequately express himself in English and make the translation issue unnecessary.
            -Isayass accepted and did make his thing in English.
            There was no Arabic involved at that particular event. So, Abi, even if the Ras has a photographic memory, it may not hurt to check.
            – And Meles was not doing any translation for Isayass, as was claimed by Mr. Assefa Chaboy.
            – But, the Ras is right, it would have been great if Isayass then or at later occasions used Amh to address Ethiopians. Isayass’ Amharic can never be weaker than his Arabic. This all is his attempt to SEVERLY ignore Amharic and Ethiopians. The same short sighted philosophy of distancing kins and promoting differences.
            ———–
            * Assefa Chaboy is apparently one prominent writer and politician from Ethiopia. He was a member of the Derg. There was one coalition where Derg was a member of. The name of the coaltion and the name of party Assefa was chairing then fell through my fingers. It is my first time to learn, Derg was under coaltion with other parties sharing power at some point. That was quite a revelation. So Assefa’sparty was part of this coaltion. Derg later, (after it became comfortable with the consolidation of power) went after all of them one by one and liquidated them effectively. Assefa was jailed. Eprdf ousted Derg. Assefa was freed after a decade under one roof. He quickly formed a political party of his own and participated in that parties’ conference we are talking about. He was able to secure a seat in the Transitional Council. But he was a very sophisticated politician and he was challenging Meles, then president and chairman of the Council. Meles wanted to scare him off into exile. He pulled one paper from his drawer and passed it to Tesfaye Gebreab (then head of tge Ethiopian Press) to print it invthe national newspaper. Tesfaye was subtly encouraged by Berket Sem’on, before print, to show the document and ask Assefa first to counterdefend the story. Assefa was dumbfounded discovering whst was being cooked on him. That very night, he fled Ethiopia and crossed borders to Kenya, all with the knowledge of the Ethiopian intelligence. The document was obtained from the Derg documentation and it was a letter from Assefa begging Mengstu for authorization to kill some 22 people Arbaminch residents,he calls the reactionaries, as part of his contribution to the infamous red terror. Now, learning how he was played by Meles, he hates him and tries to say silly things such as this one Berhe mentioned.
            (Don’t thank me, there are others behind this. Tesfaye’s book is one, and the usual suspect)

          • iSem

            Hi Hayat:
            Exactly that is what rememeber and also IA used the word subtle. No Arabic, MZ addressed IA as plural

          • Abi

            Hi Sem
            You were not here when The Queen needed your shoulders to cry on.
            Anbessa?? Really?

          • iSem

            Ras Abi
            Come on now, the queedn cries, but this Queen does not cry

          • Abi

            Hi Sem
            This Queen said she cried until she wet her hair. She cried because of a toothless comment.

          • Dear iSem

            Sorry, it does not go like that. I have seen foreign leaders and senior officials, who throw a word or two of the language of the country they visit, to show their respect and to win hearts and minds. Dia is not that type of person. He wanted to show his disrespect to the millions of amharas who spoke that language and the millions more ethiopians who adapted it as a second language. Even on this website, we see many forumers who use amharic words from time to time, without any problem. Should they have shunned it as the language of the enemy? They use it because it is a language they know (no shame in that) and they do not see the people who speak the language as enemies.
            It was the language dia spoke when he studied in an ethiopian university. Nobody would have asked him to give the whole interview in amharic. Nevertheless, he could have said a sentence or two in the language he knew and he could have switched to the language of his choice. True to his character of a disrespectful and arrogant person, he behaved in the way he behaved.
            If I may ask, how does he communicate with the leaders of many liberation forces he hosts in eritrea, if they do not speak tigrigna; through an interpreter? Right from day one, he sent the message that he was an enemy, a potential master, and ethiopia and ethiopians should not have expected friendship from him. In the final analysis, it is immaterial if dia spoke amharic or not.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            If IA spoke Amharic people like Sem would have jumped over a cliff. He saved many lives by not speaking Amharic.

          • iSem

            Hi Horizon:
            You are correct in every line of this comment. But Abi is lying here. We do not disagree about IA , but aout throwing a few sentences in the conference like that is not practicable. But HA said, he had many opportunities to do as you say. After all he was educated in Amharic, he speaks it well, Ethiopia is our sister country after ppl defeated the blood thirsty HS and Dergi. So I agree,
            But Abi lied, and he has demands that are not practical and this crooked view comes from his false and twisted understanding and denial of the heinous crimes that pushed Eri to abandon Ethiopia

          • Abi

            Hi Sem
            Don’t brag about Eritrea abandon Ethiopia. It’s all good. Two months from now we both celebrate our Independence Day.

          • iSem

            Hi Abi:
            is that wht u got from my comment? I am not bragging, I am telling fact.
            Also, no u will not celebrate, you will be crying, but that is good, God save us from men who do not cry

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi iSem and Abi,

            I was also wondering about the claim–I have been following the wild saga that has not ended until now, from the beginning and I never heard something as wild as that. Isaias is the most foolish warlord who ever walked in Eritrea–though provocation is his forte, I wouldn’t accuse him based on a manufactured allegation–there are many foolish things he dis, than can be quoted without relying on lies. Notwithstanding the fact that any head of state chooses the language they speak with leaders of other states, I do not believe Isaias spoke in Arabic to an Ethiopian legal entity.

            In the first years after independence, most Eritreans had other vital issues with Isaias but the EPRDF was emboldening him and buttressing his stature. This after-the-fact, retroactively created allegation, is just not true. However, I will accept any evidence and admit my mistake publicly. Besides, if true, that might give me a proof for another theory that I is still in the pending folder. I am hoping Abi would provide an evidence, (or evidences ) to iSem 🙂

          • iSem

            Merhababo Saleh:
            You know my dream is for a prime minster of Eri, prime minster because we have to do away with president just because we can to switch from Tig to Tigrayit to Arabi:-)
            EPRDF more than buttressed IA, they gave him free reign and he fell for it, he was addicted and I think he was intoxicated and thought he could choke Ethiopia, but if Djibouti did not exit Ethiopia was capable to take Assab by force and stay put like they are doing in Badme, as a choked person would do anything to let go of that hand
            But the politics of our both countries has for ever changed, you will see more coordination and cooperation between Ethiopia and Djibouti as Eri gets more isolated until PFDJ is removed and after that new realities will dictate. But it is Africa and both countries may surprise us with chaos that would be stimulated with the latent grievances and simmering stife

          • Berhe Y

            Dear SGJ,

            Good luck getting evidence from Abi. He will completely ignore what he said and focus on something else trivial to divert attention, it’s not an oversight but a strategy.

            Thanks to the Queen, she gave the name I was looking, Assefa Chebo and provided accurate information that I heard before.

            I don’t know how I ended up but below link is based on his essay or book, “Isayas Afeworki secrets, which he covered in detail about the event.”

            May not be the whole thing but at least very credible if Isayas spoke Arabic or Not.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vf9bShTiKw

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe Hawey
            I was not focusing on trivial issues. No Sir. I was defending The Queen from ጊንጡ ገጣብ! Only እባቡ አቢ can go toe to toe against anyone to defend The Queen.
            It is a duty and privilege to defend and protect The Queen. Just like what you are doing to defend the King.
            Try to relax sometimes. It doesn’t kill you. I had a great day. I learned, I laughed, I tickled a ጊንጥ until it turned belly up. If you only hear him belly laugh!
            Take it easy.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            Trust me I try to relax, that’s why I never get offended for anything that said to me, which I don’t really bother to respond.

            I just don’t relax when a group of people or country (sometimes) get accused or insulted or joked about.

            If you care listen to the link I sent and it’s about IA secrets anyway 🙂

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            Sorry I can’t provide the link . However, my claim that “IA used Arabic ” in that conference was collaborated by T Kifle. If you are curious enough and have a little time you will be able to find it in TKifle file. Mind you, you don’t find a clip or something like that. You will find TKifle remembered the same issue.
            Yeqenyeley.
            IA has done many things defying logic and common sense. This issue should be the least one should worry about.
            Besides, Ras Abi is the best student ever!!!!!

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            I’m surprised to see you speaking with the person whose toothless comment made you cry until you wet your hair. Now it seems you are afraid of his testa and bugna . He did not even lend you his shoulders to cry. How about that Sem Anbessa? He is nowhere to be found.
            Eway wurdet!!!!

            I just wished T Kifle was here. He remembered the situation correctly when we discussed it last time. If you remember the same issue led to the debate between Amanuel Hidrat, T Kifle and Eyob Medhane with Ras Abi on the reserves bench cheering the Ethiopian Team. If it helps you remember the debate becomes more contentious when Ato Amanuel asked me a hypothetical question. It was more of a suggestion or at least we took it that way. He asked if Ethiopia is willing to adapt Arabic for the Muslim community. Boy! T Kifle was off to say the least. Eyobe? You know how Eyobe hates the Arabs? Ras Abi was saying “endih new enji!! (No Geez that time) Anyway the place was on fire. Abi was the usual suspect to start the fire.
            As you said, the reason why IA used Arabic was to distance himself and his people from Ethiopia and Ethiopians.

          • Graviton

            peace new?

            “why should it matter or if he spoke in Amharic or not”?, that just shows your political immaturity just as your imbecile gang leader. Abi is right you need to pay attention, you guys are already chocking while we are on the finish line with the flag waving. Respect is the ultimate currency and the sooner you realize that the better, meanwhile enjoy your slow death.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Robel Cali, I suspect you must have been born recently; fact is that before Tigrinya totally dominated the working language, Isayas was recieving questions in Arabic from Eritreans and replying in Arabic to those questions.

        • Robel Cali

          Hi Abraham

          Since the 13th century, Tigrinya has been the most dominant language in Eritrea. Even during the Beja Kingdoms, the Balaw (Beja for nobel) rulers ditched their language and spoke Tigrinya.

          When it comes to Eritrea, Tigrinya, Tigre and Beja (in that order) have been the most spoken languages since the fall of the Aksumite empire. Arabic has always been an insignificant language spoken by a few elites. It’s only in modern times (during the British administration) that we see Arabic speakers numbers rise. But even now, despite the government making it a working language, and despite the government’s attempt at promoting it through state TV and the educational system, Arabic is still a negligible language in the country.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Robel C., no need to dwell on history; I just challenged your claim that “Isaias doesn’t even speak Arabic to Eritreans” to show you that was not the case even a few years ago. Plus I don’t think Arabic is negligible in Eritrea today; for sure many muslims use it in their religion and in communicating with each other.

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Arabaham

            When Isaias speaks to the country, he speaks in Tigrinya. There’s a reason for that. If someone asks him a question in Arabic of course he will respond in Arabic. He does the same thing when diaspora kids ask him questions in English.

            Muslims in Eritrea do not speak Arabic to communicate with one another. If they are in the lowlands, they usually use Tigre as the preferred language to communicate with other ethnic groups, followed by Tigrinya.

  • Hayat Adem

    Thanks Team,
    I don’t think I’ve read it before. The piece is by-lined under team but it is written in first person and I’m guessing this is SGJ’s report. It is so beautifully pieced and tells the very unmistakable story. Now, we are equipped with a whole and enriched account about the region:
    1) We have EASE as the voice of the people:
    2) We’ve Tes’s lovely personal and testimonial account powerfully displayed (Tes, you are becoming a wonderful person, I am witnessing your growth, your inner balances, determination and energy and in no time i visualize you soaring like a bird. Protect yourself from soul pollutants)
    3) And now we have this piece as analytical report. The title of this article is very fitting. PFDJ trying to choke Ethiopia, chocked our beautiful city Assab and our people in the area. There one type of ant that does foolish thing like the PFDJ. This ant is eaten by ladybug. whenever it senses the danger of a ladybug closing in on him, it explodes itself. The intention of the ant is not sort of mimicking Tewodros. The intention is to destruct the ladybug. In the process, it fails to preserve its own life.

    Without doubt, one of the economic crimes of grand scale committed by the regime is separating Assab from Ethiopia. at the time of separation, even just only from docking and clearance services, Eritrea was having a net revenue of 90 Million dollar a year. If you compound all the service businesses generated because of traffic, and all the job opportunities that come with it, you will the picture and what has been done.

    And that is not what i cry for. I cry for that no matter how hard we try, some of them are lost forever. Djibouti pockets 2 Billion dollar only from the Port rent. If you include all the economic life that comes from all businesses and job generations etc, it is in tens of billions. Be reminded that, prior the conflict 90% of Ethiopia’s traffics was via Asseb.
    And now, the Djibouti port has run without a stop.

    The PFDJ takes its inspiration from a turtle. I’m not fun of the turtle but even by the turtle standard, the PFDJ is a force of under-representation. I think in this Assab – Djibouti story, the Assab is a long-sleeping rabbit and Djibouti is a rabbit in speed and a turtle in endurance and consistency. Here is a story you are all familiar with:

    One day a rabbit was boasting about how fast he could run. He was laughing at the turtle for being so slow. Much to the rabbit’s surprise, the turtle challenged him to a race. The rabbit thought this was a good joke and accepted the challenge. The fox was to be the umpire of the race. As the race began, the rabbit raced way ahead of the turtle, just like everyone thought. The rabbit got to the halfway point and could not see the turtle anywhere. He was hot and tired and decided to stop and take a short nap. Even if the turtle passed him, he would be able to race to the finish line ahead of him. All this time the turtle kept walking step by step by step. He never quit no matter how hot or tired he got. He just kept going. However, the rabbit slept longer than he had thought and woke up. He couldn’t see the turtle anywhere! He went at full-speed to the finish line but found the turtle there waiting for him.

    • Abi

      Hi The Queen
      First, you have not been paying attention. SGJ told us part of the story in another article format in response to Nitricc’s accusations. I remember him saying how outraged he was when he visited Djibouti port.
      Second, the rabbit in the story ( Eritrea) is still sleeping. Please pay attention. Thanks.
      On a serious note, do you think it is easy to bring back the ” TRUST ” of doing business with Eritreans as people. I see the problem deep down to individual level. You and I discussed that many individuals lost their properties at Assab Port. They were robbed in daylight. Eritrea is a place where General Bitweded is still considered a hero for robbing Assab Port. How do you bring the trust back as merchants are now more comfortable with Djibouti. What is your strategy to change the trust level from extreme negative to a neutral and if possible to a positive?
      Thanks again

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Abi,
        Lovely comment of yours here. The trust can be restored rather easily as soon as the mother of all mistrusts, the banditry regime of PFDJ is gone. The Eritrean people are as noble as the Ethiopian people. No one must not ever contemplate of doubting and questioning the trustworthiness of Eritreans. Trust me, trust between peoples and individual to individual is intact.
        What seems gone forever is the advantages we had had over Djibouti on port facilities and attractiveness. Djibouti has effectively achieved economies of scale in its infrastructural advance over ours and we’ll need have to incur so much of costly investment to win some of the business and remain competitive.

        • Abi

          Hi The Queen
          I like your optimism. I hope it is contagious.
          Assab was considered a well deserved trophy by almost all Eritreans . Both people knew the importance of owning the port. Ethiopians considered it as a lifeline. You can go back to King time and see how the Italians chocked him.
          When the war broke every Eritrean was salivating to chock Ethiopia. Many seemingly smart people tell you the port was free from 91-98. Apparently they are still mad about it. There are still others want Ethiopia to pay for using the port since 1961. And there are who approved the looting of Assab Port.
          Imagine the catastrophe if Djibouti didn’t rescue us.
          My hope is the future generation is smart enough to see things from win-win angle.

          • Thomas

            Hi Brother Abi,
            I am sorry what is gone is gone for good, but the people of Ethiopia (your family) and Eritrea (my family) will always need each other and that might be solely for business purposes. You will sell me coffee and I will sell you salt or fish. Like the Japanese sell their Toyotas here in the U.S. and the U.S. sell their Ford/Chevy truck in Japan. It is about interest not about trusting or not trusting someone. You got to get your Heineken made in Dutch and corona made in Mexico even if you don’t like or trust these countries:) Now that toothless nitricc will call me Thomas the white and drunk guy:)

          • Abi

            Hi Tomi
            First, if it is not Guinness it is not beer.
            Your examples fit nicely in a peaceful neighborhood.
            Honestly, the Ethiopian government should take extra measures before it uses Eritrean ports.
            We don’t have to give you billions for your government to buy armaments that can be used against us. You can’t be careful enough when IA is around. Let’s hope he will retire soon.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            The only issue that I have with your position is, you never doubt your conviction that, sometime you may be wrong.

            I am not a fan of EPLF / PFDJ and Isayas but when it comes to Ethiopian interests I think his views and his actions were not out of ordinary, but actually quite favorable to Ethiopia.

            I am not going to play Gheteb on you, but I would really like to see any article, any news items that states “Eritrean was salivating to chock Ethiopia“. You are just making this up….Ethiopia refused to use the port of Assab.

            In the interview Melles gave with VOA, here is what he said for not using Assab.

            So if we use the Port of Assab, the benefit is not only for us, but for Eritrea, too. On the other hand, if we decide against using Assab, then the fate of Assab would remain to be a mere source of drinking water for camels. I made this clear to the diplomats. No more, no less. If we do not use the port of Assab, then the Eritrean government won’t get a single cent from Assab..

            Therefore, it is EPLF government which should submit an application demanding that we use the port, and not us. We have the alternative, but they do not.

            You said:
            Many seemingly smart people tell you the port was free from 91-98

            As per IMF document:

            “As stipulated under an intergovernmental transit and port services agreement as well as a customs arrangement (amended annually), the port of Assab is a free port for Ethiopia, with its own Ethiopian customs branch office, and goods shipped to or from Ethiopia remain exempt from the Eritrean customs duties and related charges..

            Here is more facts about Assab and Eritrean government policy before the war:
            1) 75% of the populations were Ethiopians who worked in the port, who operated the business.
            2) The schools in Assab were the majority of Ethiopian children attended, were under the Ethiopian education system (NOT Eritrean).

            P.S. I will provide you the link on the weekend if needed.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abi once in a while I expect you to be honest and consider caring for your character. It was your stupid and illiterate back then the Ethiopian defense minster who order all trucks in Assab and in rout of Assab to come back to Ethiopia “Immediately” What is wrong with you people. At least tell the truth. It does not matter now, if you want Assab go deal with Arabs. all Eritrea has to do sit back collect Billions, you know Ta-Ta.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Abi,

        Mab be you are confused the time line of events. In case of general Bitweded the event that we speak of was in 1991. The other events re: Ethiopian goods in Assab was in 1998.

        Both events are different and under different circumstances.

        As to weather Eritreans can be trusted or not is immaterial. Weather Ethiopia / business people use Assam / Massawa is a pure economic and business decision, and as long as it’s done according to international norms you have nothing to worry about that, and it’s up to Ethiopian if they decide to use it or not, not if Eritreans are trustworthy.

        For example if Ethiopian Airlines start flight to Eritrea, and it makes economic sense to me and many Eritreans, they will fly Ethiopian.

        It’s just common sense.

        FYI, General Bitweded is considered a hero not because he confiscated few lousy goods that the derg ababdebed when it vacated but because of his selfless and sacrifice for standing up to becoming dictator and challenged him to uphold the rule of law.

        If you want a comparison, it’s like Italy asking to collect the goods it left in Eritrea or Ethiopia when it was kicked out by the British.

        Berhe

        • Dear Berhe Y,

          Let me ask, do you do business with somebody you do not trust, even if the price is attractive? Do you give your good money to a person whom you do not trust to strengthen his position, when you know that he could turn against you someday?
          One should not see only one’s profit, but also whom you are profiting. That is why trust is a very important factor, when two people or countries do business. If you take out trust, this shows that the eritrean side is not yet ready for business, and the ethiopian side should not waste time.
          Finding port services is not a matter of life and death anymore for ethiopia. Cheap or expensive, she can find a sea outlet in many countries. I do not know where this saying comes from; but, it is like this, ‘there is a time when you are ready to pay thousands of dollars for a camel, and there is also a time when you do not want to pay even a dollar for a similar camel, because you do not need it anymore”. In ethiopia’s case, she is still ready to pay that thousands of dollars, to a country which she thinks is a good friend and she can trust.
          There will come a day when somalis learn to trade instead of fighting among themselves and destroying their country, lamu is in the production line, etc. Eritreans should know that nobody can have his way in this globalized world. Profit is mutual, based on a win-win situation, in a friendly and trustworthy atmosphere, and not with a ‘take it or leave it’ attitude, especially when one needs the customer.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            I do agree to all what you said. And I can tell you, the lack of trust is mutual.

            Having said that, responsible and elected governments (who are afraid of their constitutes) on both sides would have done better.

            Sure people like you and me, who reside in western countries, who have the luxery of eating three full meals a day and our children are protected and live in free society can say that. But the poor people of Eritrea and Ethiopia who lives shuttered because of the reckless adventure of the government are the one who pay the price.

            But responsible governments and leaders will do anything to protect the interest of their countries and their people even in the event of hostility.

            There is no justification what so ever that Ethiopia should feel threatened by Eritrea at least militarily (the last war has proved that). Eritrea does not have the capacity, the man power, the military establishment, let alone threat Ethiopia security even occupy a small piece of land.

            The destructive war was on Eritrean side, and Eritreans are paying the heavy burden till this day.

            Everyone knows and including Ethiopians that, Isayas refusal to dialog with Ethiopia is not for the benefit of Eritrean people but for his own power to protect.

            I am not in the business of telling how Ethiopians chose to spend their money, but it’s seems to me, irrational, economically and politically.

            Berhe

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hayat,

      We can simply put it that the last 25 years and so was a waste of lives and resources for Eritrea. Eritrea lost all the opportunity to be the engine of development and trade in the horn as a whole. It lost the good will of its people and the trust of its neighbors under PFDJ rule of mafia. As all rulers disappear with time and circumstances, the PFDJ regime will be gone, and Eritrea will regain its status in the region by displaying the hard work of its citizen,

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

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