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Ethiopian Airlines Will Resume Flights to Asmara

This morning, the Ethiopian prime minister Dr. Abiy Ahmed concluded a two-day visit to Asmara after signing several agreements. The major item of his talks in Eritrea was a peace agreement, though its content was on the table since 2004. However, the Eritrean government had refused to dialogue with the Ethiopian government insisting the latter pull out its troops from the border before it could agree to any talks.

The Ethiopian prime minister and Isaias Afwerki, the head of the Eritrean ruling party, also agreed to resume air transport and telecommunication ties between the two countries.

Gedab News learned that Ethiopian Airlines is expected to make its “maiden flight to Asmara” on the 17th of this month. The planned resumption of the Asmara bound fight will be the first in twenty years. Ethiopian Airlines discontinued its flights to Asmara after the start of the vicious 1998-2000 border war that the two countries fought.

Since it came to power in 1991, the Eritrean ruling party made numerous attempts to establish a national carrier but none were successful. The airlines were mostly started by individual entrepreneurs who soon became frustrated due to interferences by the economic arm of the PFDJ government, which ended up controlling the operations of the private airlines.

In one instance, a frustrated Romanian pilot flew a privately leased airliner out of Eritrea and absconded in Romania bringing the end of one of the airline companies.

Travel agents in Addis Ababa were given the signal to start selling tickets for the Asmara-bound flight. A source close to the airline business said that “the number of people asking about the flight has been very positive.” He added, “unless the government of Eritrea spoils the flight arrangement, as usual, we are hopeful it will be a relief for business people and relatives to visit both Ethiopia and Eritrea.”

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  • DreadFool

    Selam to all! If all’s well that ends well, soon there will be a cocktail party at the Asmara Press Club.

  • Blink

    Dear Hope
    Remember , it is kibrom talking . Kibrom talking as always as kibrom .

  • Kbrom

    Dear all,

    Ethiopia will have ‘unlimited access’ to Assab and Massawa. PIA to PMAA: you are welcome to use both the ports starting from today without any restrictions.

    The demarcation will be thrown in the back seat until is faded out of the screen.

    With the billions of dollars from UAE (Ethiopia 3 Billion Eritrea about 1.5 Billion) the infrastructure which includes the renewal of Assab and building new jetties will start. 


    Dubai Holding: Global Investment Holding Company will handle the ports service on behalf of Ethiopia and EMMAR Development will take the responsibility of leading the infrastructure project. Netherlands Ports is also floating as candidate.

    Now it is clear for many (except for YG who said in his recent interview this relation was restored directly without involvement of any third party) UAE was the doctor of the in vitro fertilization IVF and the midwife of the delivery. Every step including its risk mitigation strategy was outlined during April – June which includes one hand written letter of assurance from PMAA to PIA via UAE and one face to face meeting in 19th of May 2018 in Dubai. Dirham – Peace package.

    UAE made commitment to protect PMAA from any domestic conspiracy against him, even by making military intervention if deemed it necessary. During those days PMAA had extreme paranoid in regard to the conspiracies that might come against him from different corners shortly after he assumed power.

    PIA is said to have been given warranty of his future and impunity (one of main reason that he is so ecstatic since May 2018).

    Several actions (including actions that no one would ever imagine them to happen) will be followed soon by PIA as per the ‘instructions’.

    Majority supporters (ሕልና ዘለዎም) Yes ኣለዎ እወ ሕልና ዘለዎም ደገፍቲ and senior officials are absolutely disappointed by the non transparent, non participatory and ዘዋርድን ዘሕንኽን ኣተሓሕዛ። The other part of PFDJ who is not happy about the new development are the paid informers – you know why it is similar to when ሰራሕ ሳንዱቕ ሬሳ ዝመውት ሰብ ውሒዱ ዕዳጋ ስኢና ኢሉ ዘማርሮ ዓይነት ኢዩ!

    What ever is happening we will see a positive change in Eritrea – how? which way? time will tell.

    The demarcation call was made by TPLF in the EPRDF’s meeting during PMHD, however it was not with out precondition. TPLF said that we have unbearable pressure from our people but we need to make sure that it is implemented in a way that would not create repercussion from some parts of Tigray particularly in the Alitiena area and the Erob people. TPLF leadership says Baduma has never been ours and our concern is not about Baduma.

    After their first confused reaction to PMAA’s announcement TPLF seems that it has learned its lesson. TPLF has decided to act diplomatically officially accept the federal declarations but never allows the hasty implementation without consultation with people.

    Eritrea: after PMAA’s visit nothing new so far. Still people including ministers are getting their information from ETV asking ‘any news from our ምቕሉል መራሒና (Abiy)?’. The rumors have it that borders will stay as they are but ‘borders will reflect the peace atmosphere’ (whatever it means).

    PIA does not see any one, all decisions are taken by him, as stunning as it is to believe it, YG is one of the people who is complaining about how the Ethio- Eritrea is being handled.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Kbromay,

      Aha, the deal is called the “Dirham Peace package”. Thank you for all the scoops of the secret deal – a deal for which Eritreans have not clue about it, including the servants of the despot, until the last few days. It is sad that the fate of a nation and its people is in the hand of a single man, the demigod of the people.

    • Amde

      Selam Gash Kibrom,

      Any clue as to WHY the Emirates cares all of a sudden, and why NOW?

      Amde

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Gash Amde,
        Your question has caught me by surprise. For all the knowledge you enjoy about the affairs of the region as well as to how nations operate across alliances, I did not suspect you would be clueless why the Emirates is involved. Having one of the largest sovereign funds (trillions) at its disposal, the Americans and their allies assign certain regional proxy tasks to it and others oild rich Gulf states. Those huge funds should be circulate either in terms of investments of purchasing geo-political strategic spots. The positions Ethiopia and Eritrea occupy are for sale which the Emirates can buy. Five billion for Ethiopia and one and half of the same to Isyas are peanuts that can be thrown. As you and I know China, Russia and India (slowly but surely) have become formidable commerical and military adversaries in our region. So to cope with the challenges the Americans and allies want to use the assets and funds the money the Emirates has and encourage it to be at the advance line in the game.

        • Amde

          Selam Gash Ismail, Abrehet

          I was hoping our intrepid investigator could impart additional detail we may not be aware of. Sometimes i find it is better for me to park my assumptions.

          Amde

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam BrotherAmde
        I don’t think it is all of a sudden, as to why it cares, google Sparta of the Middle East, and you will see a number of articles that detail what has been going on. And notice, how it is already controlling or heavily involved in South Yemen, Assab and Berbera.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Sir Amde,

        I doubt a person of your caliber will miss what is going on in our region. I am afraid the change movements in Ethiopia will be controlled by foreign actors. I am afraid the fate of Ethiopian politics to be out of your control – the Ethiopian people.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam kubur haw Kbrom,

      This is worthy follow up input. Thank you. Among many points, you gave a context to why the despots and his committed apologists have exposed unbriddled excitement. We can see that the superemo and his diehard enablers were suffering from sleep denying worries about the future. They considered Abiy and the events that led to his ascent as gifts from Providence. As you have found out, and as also true with any autocrats, there is nothing worrisome than immunity and safety during last quarter of their lives. There is no wonder, thus, Isayas also would traded anything for his immunity and safety. By the way, Saddam Hussein’s fate was terrifying warning to many dictators like Gaddafi who had to give every bit of information about his military capabilities in exchange for safety. So, why does Isayas be different. But who has the authority to give or deny immunity to Isayas? Where are the Eritrean people?

      Anyway, the billion dollar question is what shall our people benefit from peace that the Ethiopians are shrewdly pursuing to achieve for their interest. No worthy Eritrean patriot would gainsay the value of peace to our people. But, yes, peace means internal respite and progress and mutually beneficial relations with neighbors. It’s judicious to consent the Ethiopian people to benefit from our national assets like sea ports. But the question what shall our people benefit? For example, are our Afar compatriots who have been suffering denial and methodical oppression that forced the large bulk of them to live in exile benefit from assets that located in their land? Shall the 80% of the Afar who are suffering in harsh conditions in refugee camps return and take advantage of peace?

      The hope is that the Ethiopian to have learned useful lessons from the past. No relations concocted by illegitimate authorities or vocal and empowered surrogates can last without the expressed consent of the people. That was the folly that had sealled off the fate of the annexation in 1962. The Ethiopia elites would better to to think strategic and look beyond Isayas and his regime if they have eyes on long term mutually beneficial relations between two fraternal and sovereign nations.

      • Selam Ismail AA,

        With all due respect, if i may ask, are you saying that this peace deal should not be realized and it should be terminated, because it is not done with the interest of the people of eritrea in mind, but dia’s survival? One can also conclude that what the pfdj government is doing today will be undone in the future, as has happened in the past.

        The main point is that if the opposition cannot bring peace, why should it be on the way of peace? What is wrong if peace, which is so much needed by eritreans, as we saw during the reception of the pm, is brought by dia/pfdj, anybody for that matter, as long as the no-war-no-peace situation is killing eritrea, and the people are showing it?

        Ethiopians are shrewdly pursuing peace to achieve their interest, a peace that is not going to serve eritrea’s interest in any way, if i am not mistaken, may come out of the fear ethiopia may be using assab in the future. If the message is peace with ethiopia at any cost should be voided, i do not think that ethiopia will have any problem with that. Nevertheless, somebody must come with a solution for the dire social, economic and political problems of the country.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Horizon,

          Do I say the peace set in motion by Ethiopia should not go through and halted, no sir. That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that the Ethiopians and whoever involved should act wise and fair and appreciate our people do crave for peace as much as the Ethiopian peoples do. What I am saying is that peace should not be transacted for ensuring the survival of the dictatorship because in course of time peace could be liability to the Ethiopian peoples and our people. People in bondage cannot become partners in lasting peace.

          In few words, if our Ethiopian neighbors would be constrained and under duress of economic and social challenges and go for peace at any cost with the dictatorship, they should do that with understanding that today’s expediencies could be undone by tomorrows expediencies. Freedom and internal peace in Eritrea would be strategic investment that could not be measured with what the current dictatorship can deliver in terms of cheap access to the ports as Kbrom has informed us.

          • Selam Ismail AA,

            The following i think are the main points in your comment.

            – Ethiopians should act wise and fair,
            – Peace should not be transacted to ensure survival of the dictatorship,
            – Ethiopia goes for peace because of economic constraints and social challenges,
            – Ethiopia is doing it for cheap access to the ports.
            – today’s expediencies could be undone by tomorrows expediencies.
            – Freedom and internal peace in Eritrea would be strategic investment.

            All these are things that are in the hands of the eritrean regime, and by extension the eritrean opposition and the eritrean people. Ethiopia can force none of the above on eritrea.

            I don’t understand how ethiopia would be wise and fair, other than walking away from the peace deal, as long as it is not serving the interest of the eritrean people, or the eritrean side cancelling it all together.

            If ethiopia does not want to be accused of ensuring the survival of the dictatorship, she can do nothing more than again walking away from the deal. Otherwise, the opposition should have replaced the regime at the negotiation table.

            I do not expect that the port of assab will handle more than a small percentage of ethiopia’s trade. Uae money could be a short term solution, but it will not save ethiopia’s economy in the long term, if it is so bad. Therefore, ethiopia opted for peace, because she wanted to and the right time had come, and not because somebody bribed her.

            Freedom and internal peace in eritrea are not in the hands of ethiopia. It is up to eritreans themselves to achieve them.

            Finally, if any deal is reached between the two, one way or the other the regime in asmara is surely going to benefit, because it is the only actor on the eritrean side, may be the people as well, no one knows, otherwise there should be no deal. It is difficult to understand how the opposition supports peace, when at the same time it has so many objections about the peace deal, and when it is ready to cancel it at a later date.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Peace,

            I think I am not engaging in a kind of one way or the other debate. No one is arguing that the Ethiopian government should either make peace with the opposition or halt what it has begun doing. The point is the Ethiopian government should realize that peace would be more lasting and beneficial when it also serves the interest of oppressed people. One-man dictatorships could never embody guarantees for peace because its life span becomes very much predicated to the life span of the autocrat. The debate here is about discriminating tactical peace from strategic peace. From the point of view of genuine peace makers, the latter should supersede the former if the end game would be people to people peace.

        • Blink

          Dear Horizon
          Remember what the Eritrean opposition are looking for? They are looking at ethnic federal government even if they know that has zero interest in Eritreans . They don’t understand the current generational shift in Eritrea . They have been dreaming about disintegrated Eritrea across ethnic lines like for example Kunama , Afar mini states . This kind of idea doesn’t fly even for a second in Eritreans . This idea was constructed by weyane money especially senaa forum and they have tried their luck for over 18 years without adding like sagim and others . Imagine this idea with the actual game played by PFDJ in Eritrea . Every year 20,000 young men are being shipped to saws from everywhere in Eritrea and when they come out from Eritrea they are met with Mini Afar state from Canada . If that did not help you understand why they failed and will fail again , I don’t know what to tell you .

      • Amde

        Selam Gash Ismael,

        Your concerns are noted and legitimate. But “the Eritrean People” are an amorphous abstract entity which does not go into diplomatic or commercial deals.

        Who is the Ethiopian government supposed to talk to?

        Once billion dollar investments are made and trade/usage patterns established, is a post IA regime going to willy nilly walk away from it all?

        I dont think so.

        Plus, time favors Ethiopia which is improving its options in Sudan, Somalia, Kenya.

        Better for opposition to strategize about how to utilize this opening than condemning it.

        Amde

        • Ismail AA

          Selam gash Amde,

          Sorry, I just came in and seen your remarks. It is true that people as an entity do not forge into a dealing making agency. When free, they do it through governments that embodies their expressed will that translate to legitimate institutions entrusted to safeguard their collective interests.

          Now, the question Eritreans like me are asking is do our people have minimum margins of movement to harness omnipotent autocrat and accrue the minimum benefit peace is supposed to offer? The Eritrean people would not walk from peace which they won’t have in the first place. Moreover, under the circumstances, dividends of peace would enable the regime to pay for its tools of control: build more jails, deploy more security networks and financing loyal power base – resources devouring enterprises that worry dictators. These are not good investments for lasting peace since no people would remained chained for eternity. At some point, they will have to break the chains. Some years back, many of us could not contemplate things in Ethiopia would turn to be what we are witnessing now.

          Furthermore, suggesting that the opposition would do better to jump on the bandwagon of peace rather than resisting could be fair game. But do not you think that in order the opposition to make use of opportunities that peace may offer, there is need for some strategizing from the side of a government that opted peace as strategic mission? When Dr. Abiy and his team try to take opposition groups on board for the purpose of internal peace, do not you think they should also have space for contributing the same in the interest peace for the Eritrean people?

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismael,

            I can’t say I can argue with any of the points you have raised.

            This peace will strengthen the incumbent and his system. And worse, it makes Ethiopia somewhat aligned in the continuation of a political system composed of the people and/or organizations most likely to continue the deals in the most advantageous way for Ethiopia going forward.

            It would be nice if Eritrean popular opinion (assume articulated by opposition) was taken into consideration, but you know very well that is not how things work.

            In my opinion one of the causes for this outcome are the armies of opposition swearing up and down that the day after peace is signed (assumed to be the day after Ethiopia leaves on Final&Binding terms) Isayyas is toast. It didn’t make sense to me that the opposition would dictate suicidal terms to TPLF. I don’t know how many times I have written in these pages that Isayyas is just one deal away from being free. I just assumed the deal would be with TPLF.

            So now, here we are.

            We will have to see the details of the deal, but i am afraid there are too many interested parties for the deal not to happen. All I am saying is at this point it is better for the opposition to strategize based on the new realities.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Gash Amde,

            Do not get me wrong. I am not playing fan of peace is/should be doomed adventurist milieu if it won’t be constructed on the demands of the opposition. No sane minded person would gainsay peace and its bounties to especially ordinary folks.
            My concern, and of many like me, is what dividends would peace bring to poor citizens suffering under secretive and ruthless regime and its leader. My concern is whether or not the stronger side in process, which in this case is Ethiopia, going to care about the tragedy the Eritrean people is living through? Would the Ethiopian leaders think about the fate of half a million youth, under age children and families, and many more dispersed across the country?
            Of course, it can be rightly argue that the Eritrean opposition did not do what it was supposed to do. But Ethio-opposition relations followed policies of the EPRDF, and their failure could not absolve the host country. Many think that TPLF had monopoly of the file but its partners did not voice any concerns about the opposition file has been managed.

        • Blink

          Dear Amde
          One simple thing you forget, there is no opposition arm that can challenge nor do they have a small support in the Eritrean people. All you see is an eye looking ethnically federated head like weyane game and this is not going to work in Eritrea. They better come with better things than talking rubbish about ethnic politics.

      • Blink

        Dear ismail
        Remember Eritrea is not Ethiopia where one ethnic claim over a barren land . Just remember also there is no place called mini afar state , mini kunama or any mini Tigrinya, mini Tigre . You have to understand there is no ethnically federated land . There is a country called Eritrea and when one kunama kid eats lunch there must be another kid from afar eating his share .

    • Selam Kbrom,

      Suggesting that PMAA was in extreme paranoid phobia (if i may say so) of conspiracies against him coming from different corners, and the commitment of the UAE to protect him even by military intervention in ethiopia, is far from plausible.

      A country that could not defeat a group of poorly armed fighters in yemen, even with the help of a coalition of mercenary fighters from all over the region and beyond, intervening in ethiopia military on the side of pm Abiy, will be a phenomenon nobody could believe.

      Does PMAA’s bold actions show a person with a paranoid phobia for his security? No, not at all. One thing is a fact. PMAA does not do it alone. There are many from within the country who support and encourage him from behind the scene.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Kbrom,
      You forgot one point. Eritrea is no more Africa’s North Korea, it is now Africa’s Cuba, where tourists flow-in including from Ethiopia, but no citizen is yet allowed to go out. This was my son’s observation after he read EAL is flying in next week.

      • sara

        ato Haile
        i also think many forget Eritrea has two of the great Abrahamic religions that are not prevalent in N.Korea and Cuba., theretofore how can we equate eritrea with cuba or any of those countries that do not really care or practice faith as the people of Eritrea.

        • Haile S.

          Selamat Sara,
          True. There are other differences too. They are black, whites and mulattos. We are all blacks. The point was, I and my son were just wishing, Eritreans to be allowed to fly without exit visas on the following flight.
          By the way why are these 2 religions called Abrahamic? Why not Abraham’s, Sara’s and Hagar”s?

          • sara

            Dear sir,
            Dont worry time is changing,and your sons wish will be realized.
            As for the abraham,or sayedna ibrahim you ate right ..those you mentioned are too, but commonly known is abraham/ibrahim is the father of those two relgions.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. It is simply pathetically shameless and disingenuous (perhaps because of intense guilt), that some here are now trying to assert that the TPLF’s earlier Five-Point Peace plan, is the same in content, motive and sincerity, as what PM Abiy has brought to the table, which has allowed peace to materialize between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Facts relating to the mendacious the TPLF’s Five-Point Peace plan are on the net in the form of Wikileaks for anyone to easily pull out and see. Opposition efforts in this regard serve absolutely zero -nada- purpose. Move on! There are more crucial issues to attend to which include: 1) Further normalization of relations between Ethiopia and Eritrea which safeguard the interests of both countries and mitigate chances for future misunderstanding, 2) Strategies on how best to accommodate demobilized Eritrean Armed Forces, 3) Strategies on encouraging cross-border trade with minimal disturbance, 4) Processes for dealing with property claims of Ethiopian and Eritrean families which were adversely effected by the 1998-2000 Ethio-Eri war, 5) Prisoner review and release strategies, 6) Basic Due Process and Judicial review, etc…etc..

    • saay7

      Selamat Fishmilk:

      Look at your itemized examples of what we need to focus on after we “move on” (that damn train again.). None of them:

      * demand accountability
      * demand return of rule of law and constitutionalism
      * restoring citizens rights
      * releasing, bringing to court, making restitution for people arrested without charges for 17 years
      * transitioning from a “gov” whose sole legitimacy is a revolution which ended 27 years ago

      The reason you talk about Wikileaks and such is because you can’t argue on the merit that the five point peace plan is resurrected and now called the five pillar peace plan. One said we agree in principle to implement and the other said we agree to implement. The only difference is it has a different salesman: he is from the OPDO wing of the EPRDF and not the TPLF wing of EPRDF. You also want to exaggerate their differences and not focus on the fundamental fact that they are both “negotiate now and demarcate later.” And the reason you and those who argue keep doing that is because they have no good answer to the question: if we are going to end up with normalization-now-demarcation-later, why did we waste 14 years of Eritrea’s life and hold the people hostage and exiled a huge number of its youth.

      So of course anyone who has to raise this uncomfortable question has to be marginalized and the way to do it is the same way it has been done: call them Weyane. But I am sure you will stop that 5 minutes after Isaias is reconciled with Weyane.

      Saay

      • FishMilk

        Hi saay7. I agree 100% that we need to address the issues that you have mentioned. However, I believe that it is neither practical nor realistic within the short-term (6-to-12 months following physical Ethiopian withdrawal) to address all of them at one go. If I am wrong in this regard, and positive reforms take place much quicker, I will celebrate along with you. In regards to the TPLF’s Five-Point Peace Plan, what you fail to mention the big kicker difference in that the TPLF simply did not UNCONDITIONALLY Accept the EEBC final and binding decision (this is where intent and sincerity come in). As it has been said, you cannot Agree in Principle to marry someone, either you do it or you don’t!

        • saay7

          FishMilk:

          Who said address all of them at once? I am asking you why didn’t a single one of them cross your mind? How long of a process is it to release those you have jmlrjsoned and told us their case is pending the end of the Ethiopian threat?

          Your argument about the fact that Ethiopia only said “in principle” back in 2014 has to be followed with “and, in practical terms, what is the problem with that?” And the answer is, “because then there is no guarantee that these negotiations won’t reopened a settled case; they are putting demarcation as a lower priority.” Ok. But that’s exactly the deal we are now celebrating.

          So the only difference was: who is going to represent Eritrea and Ethiopia in these negotiations. Well, clearly, for Eritrea it has to be PFDJ. There is no other choice because we have created this one party state. But in Ethiopia, it had to be a government whose executive office is presided over by a non-Weyane and one who doesn’t owe his power to Weyane.

          This was an extremely irresponsible position. The fact that one gambles and wins 1 million is not a good argument for gambling. Especially if you lost 100 million in the process.

          Again, these are the things an Eritrean MP would say in a free country. Alas, among the long list of waste and corruption the Isaias regime is leaving as a legacy is epistemic closure among our learned, which never moved beyond repeating “final and binding” for 14 miserable years.

          saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. Look again as I did as I mentioned Basic Due Process and Judicial Review. My list was certainly not conclusive and was just given as an example of what might be pursued in the short term. In regards to ‘in principle’ it is simply inconsistent with the tenants of the Algiers Peace Agreement and accordant EEBC final and binding decision. You know well that both Isaias and Meles signed on the dotted line giving their agreement to UNCONDITIONALLY accept the EEBC final and binding decision.

          • saay7

            FishMilk:

            On your to-do-list, Ismail has capture its flaws perfectly. It is not citizen-centered but regime-centered. It serves a good answer to those who were asking “what excuses will it come up to extend its chokehold so thank you?

            You are stuck in the words of the agreement as opposed to their risk and outcomes.

            Saying “hell no” guaranteed one outcome: no peace no war no normalization. Saying “yes” had three possible outcomes: a bad one (no peace no war, no relationship), an okay one (demarcation but no normalization), an ideal one (demarcation and normalization.)

            The government and those who bought its argument went for the one with the single outcome.

            The question is not was what Ethiopia did wrong? Of course it was. But faced with that reality, and you have choices to make what do you choose. The Isaias regime picked the worst one for the country and what it considered the best for its agenda: regime change in Ethiopia. Now if you are going to celebrate that, don’t do it in a vaccine: was what we paid for it proportionate to what we got. And clearly based on what we ended up agreeing to: it is not.

            saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. FACT: Before PM Abiy, the Ethiopian Government never unconditionally accepted the EEBC final and binding decision. CONJECTURE: Following the Ethiopian Government’s earlier refusal to unconditional accept the EEBC final and binding decision, you wish to make a supposition of what could have resulted, should PIA have taken or not taken certain actions.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FishMilk,

            Isn’t the government of Eritrea reject the Ethiopian position “in principle” because it will lead to “negotiations” that in the opinion of the Eritrean government, negotiation will override “final and binding”? Why did they accept “negotiation” now? Second if the negotiation will lead us into adjustments in the central region of the border (the Tserona and Irob region), will you still argue, that it is within the premises of “final and binding”?

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. Who said that Eritrea has now accepted to ‘negotiate’ and in what context are you referring?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FishMilk,

            The context is: the current negotiation and the “broad agreement” they have reached before the border is demarcated, as oppose to “no negotiation before demarcation” they had for the last 16 years. So it is not only they accepted the negotiation, but already have negotiated and the agreements are on the process of implementation. Such as: the Ethiopian Airlines soon to start flying Addis-Asmara, Buses will start next month. The ports are open for Ethiopian goods and services. The Eritrean cultural troupe will make tours in Tigray and other Ethiopian places, and many more will follow.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam FishMilk,

      An aware observer, especially involved Eritrean, does not miss the concern your 6 points ( …) in your entry try to conceal. They rather porously camouflage the regime’s worries about the risks peace could entail in case implemented. For instance, what is “prisoner … release strategies” supposed to mean? The matter concerns political and conscientious prisoners. Why should one speak about strategies. Moreover, have ever thought or heard about something called Eritrean refugees standed in camps for decades? I do not think an Eritrean with living conscience would omit such a grave humanitarian cause of part of own society when listing the blessings peace could bring.

      • saay7

        Isamilom:

        Bingo. What I don’t know is if people like FishMilk do this consciously or unconsciously?

        saay

        • Ismail AA

          Dear saay,
          I would surmise most of them know what they are talking about though among them are zealots who can beat robbots in obeying what the hero wants them to do and say. But they also have demands. They wish the regime does not do things that may affect its existence. Their priority is to have the hero stay for life.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Ismail AA. In regards to all political and conscientious prisoners who have committed no other crime, I would be happy if they all were to be released at one go. However, for the other prisoners, who have been lingering in prisons for years without Due Process being afforded, given that there is no functional judiciary system in Eritrea, perhaps a temporary strategy to expedite judicial review might be considered. In regards to refugees, both those in encampment and those not, they are of course of priority concern. In this regard, involvement of the UN and UNHCR in a VOLREP which will entail the cooperation of both Eritrea and Ethiopia is essential. But, can we realistically move fast on this front before physical Ethiopian withdrawal?

        • Ismail AA

          Dear FishMilk,

          Is withdrawal still priority of the regime? Withdrawal was a means to an end, and not an end. So, no one gets surprised witnessing post withdrawal messages being exchanged. If the regime could be believed, withdrawal was meant to be prelude to normalization. But now we have visits and return of visits on higest levels.

          Moreover, while I am at it, why should the refugees concern Eritrea and Ethiopia only? How about Sudan, Djibouti and Yemen? Are you aware about their existence?.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Ismail AA. It is a fundamental human right, that any refugee in any country, should have free and safe passage back to his/her country of origin. In the case of Eritrea, drawing upon experience following liberation in 1991, don’t look for wheels to move quickly regarding an organised VOLREP. Back then, before allowing UNHCR to run with a VOLREP re Sudan and Eritrea, ERA and the GoE first wanted to give time for infrastructural repair and for demobilized fighters to be accommodated/Integrated. Notwithstanding, spontaneous repatriation was all the time occurring. Once the VOLREP was organised, not everyone wished to enroll as some chose to remain in Sudan.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear FishMilk,

            The way the regime had handled the issue of refugees after 1991was irresponsible and insensitive. Its approach was both politics and money centered. Incidentally I was close to operational theatre to watch what went on. The new government in Asmara was determined to keep the refugees in Sudan away for demographic and political reasons.

            In orde to thwart any pressure from the relevant humanitarian and UN agencies, the regime demanded advance payment and free hand to do whatever it wanted with the file, including screening who should and should not be allowed to repatriate. I remember a lump sum was quoted. The UN agency was not prepared to abdicate its authority and responsibility. Finally, the poor refugees were abandoned to their fate without any help from aid agencies. They are stilling waiting up this second I am moving my fingers on the keyboard to report these remarks to you.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Ismail AA. Were you in Eritrea in 1991 right after liberation? You say that ‘The new government in Asmara determined to keep refugees in Sudan away’.? What Government? We were coming out of the bushes and trenches! Things were in an absolute mess in 1991 and Eritrea’s infrastructure had either been destroyed or was in ruins from years of neglect. We had more than 100,000 Ethiopian military surrenders to deal with on top of tens-of-thousands demobilized EPLF fighters. The EPLF was in its infantile stages of setting up a Government. For example, the protocal office was temporarily located in the Ambasoira Hotel. It was quite clearly not the right time to be undergoing a large-scale VOLREP. You say that ‘the UN agency was not ready to abdicate its authority and responsibility’? For someone as yourself close to the operation theatre, as you say that you were, you should then know that the Head of UNHCR at the time, as well as the UN SRSG for Eritrea, were both declared persona non grata, for attempting to push the repatriation agenda.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear FishMilk,

            Let me make things a bit clear. What we speaking about is not 1991and how things stood then. We are speaking about the period a government was installed, and an official (in fact the current foreign minister) was assigned to handle the refugee file, which involved registered refugee population in Sudan. Then, the story went the way I have related it to you in my previous entry. The reason was precisely what you pointed out in stating that “the EPLF rightly did not want repatriation to be prematurely pushed down their throats”. For Isayas, the issue was political and demographic before being humanitarian. The fear arose from belief that the bulk of the refugees in Sudan were followers of the ELF. As to the internal conditions the Derg had left behind, yes, realistic opposition organizations had shown through official statements understanding, and offered acceptance of the EPLF installed government as transitional administration, and showed readiness to help.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Ismail AA. Thanks for the clarification. I remember that time well. ERA had expanded its role to become ERRC for which as you mention was at the time headed by Osman as a ministry. In 90s, Eritrea and Sudan’s “love-hate’ relationship was in full speed. What I do remember prior to the VOLREP was that there was a (UNHCR, WFP, COR) re-validation exercise done for Eritrean and Ethiopian refugee camps in Sudan which resulted in greatly reduced numbers. The re-validation exercise also resulted in one major surprise, one refugee camp which had for years been receiving UN assistance but had never been accessible by UN staff, was believed to be a hard-line Sudanese security training center. margaret o’Keefe, UNHCR Representative at the time, was extremely embarrassed over the matter. I remember getting into heated discussions with GoS Security at Kassala’s Hipton Hotel in regards to this ‘special refugee camp’. I know that there has been the claim that PIA did not wish the former ELF to return to Eritrea. I am also aware of the claim that a large percentage of former ELF were unwilling to enroll for the VOLREP, and later after a cessation clause was implemented, lost their refugee status.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam FishMilk,

            Good that you was in position to follow things closely regarding the actors that pitted against one another at the expense of the poor refugee whose only crime was been compelled to live in exile and rejoiced louder than any of their compatriots when their country was liberated.

            At the initial years after liberation, the Sudanese government had actually acted as one of the departments of the EPLF and acquiesced with anything it wanted or did. General Bashir-Dr. al-Turabi government strangulated the ELF and other organizations to the extent of handing over fighters. It was much later that EPLF’s free hand in Sudan became too flagrant to tolerate and disputes began to surface.

            Let me not end these remarks before applauding your rectitude about the EPLF leadership’s view on towards the ELF. But, it neither was a claim as you said nor ambiguous about their political their angst regarding the return of ELF’s political base. Although guns went silent, for them the unfortunate 1980-82 events were not over. That is why they crafted a policy that banned any organized return of organizations which crystalized in the infamous June 20 ናይ ውድባት ሓሸውይ declaration. I hope forumers would forgive me and you for digressing to past events though there is no present without the past as background.

  • FishMilk

    Hi Alex. Paulos Adem is simply a TPLF internet implant just like his sister Hayet Adem. He believes that Tilapia comes from the Red Sea, that the Derg lifted the curfew in Asmara in the mid-1980s,, that there are no checkpoints in Tigray or the whole of Ethiopia, defends the TPLF at every opportunity, makes up nonsense stories about PIA not being Eritrean, etc…etc….etc….He simply has no clue..

  • Kbrom

    Hi all,

    Unconfirmed reports: PIA will visit Ethiopia ‘very soon’ probably this Saturday. Will confirm and come back to you.

    Senior officials happy with the peace atmosphere terribly disappointed with the way it is being handled.

    • Hayat Adem

      Kibrom,
      Actually, that is true. He is going there on Saturday for two days. On Sunday night, there will be an extravagant concert prepared for him at the millinium.

      These two are acting like good comrades in hugging. They are trivializibg everything. Would they make you feel we had a real reason for the 30 yrs of war for independence? Would they make you feel that the referrendum conducted was necessary? Would they make you feel there was any reason for the 2yr devastating Badime war that consumed 70k on both sides? Would they make you feel we had to enter a cold war of the horn style for two decades?
      Now, everything sounds like a chilld play. Nobody knows what they are doing. Relevant ministers are not involved in the things they are signing. Legislators, scholars, the general public are not sheding light on it.
      We had a friend who is quick at making new friends. Her speed faster than a light. So she always gets us introduced to the friends with a high tone. She would say, “meet so and so; they are my best friends, like best of the best..” And indeed, some of them are good people and we happened to remain friebd long after. But this quick friend would sever her relations with those people at no time, she comes back to mobilise against that very person: ” gidefiya ‘sa hanti zetrebih fitret…”
      What is going with this two will be far more consequential.

    • saay7

      Kbrom:

      I think you should give your posts headings the way Gheteb does. Otherwise how will we know they are very important posts? Extra bonus if you can make the point that each story vindicates PIA and PFDJ.

      saay

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selamat Brother Hope,

    Dearest Hope, “Peace has prevailed and it is time to nurture ,maintain and strengthen it.” Very well said and agreed.

    I understand what you mean by “let us leave it there,” but I just want to mention that those with broader capacity to think don’t necessarily have borders. Ironically those who are now worshiping PM Abiy for “destroying border with love” are those who have been crucifying Hayat for years for a smaller version of that very concept.

    This about it.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Abisha,

    wey ine, wey ine! As you didn’t to call our majesty ‘yene konjo, yene emebet,’ as if you didn’t use to call her in the wee hours of the night to just hear her voice, as if you didn’t use to say ‘Hayat wey mott’ so loudley until those of us number twos shut the heck up. wa gize!

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear All,
    I’ve a lot of things to say about what is happening. That is for another time. Now, i want to say something else…
    A call was made from Ethiopia to Eritrea. It was answered by a female voice:
    “Hello, who is calling?”
    “Hi, my name is Abi, and I am calling from Addis Ababa.”
    “Okay, thanks for making that call from Addis. What can i help you now, Abi?”.
    “Oh.. thanks.. this might sound strange.. but there was a missed call that came from this line on May 5, 1998. I am sorry the return call has taken a bit.”
    “A missed call when?”
    “In 1998”
    “Well, this phone is mine. And I was born in 1999. It couldn’t be me. But, you are a good person trying to return a call made 20 yrs ago. U were right..It is a bit strange..Better late than never. hahah.. Good bye stranger..”
    “No, wait.. Is the name of your mom Feven by any chance.?.”
    “Y..e..e..sss!”
    “Where is she now.”
    “Why? Do you know my mother?”
    “Where is she now.. where is she?”
    “She is not here.. she .. she.. died long ago.. she died when I was 4 … Who are you?”
    /pause…./
    “Did she tell you anything or do you remember her telling you anything about your Dad…?”
    “Wh a t….?”
    ….

    • Blink

      Dear hayat
      This will not help you relax either , I mean you can even write a short screen play and it will not help you either . What you have thought impossible becomes possible and now here you are on desert alone looking for any sign of help ,Nope , there is nothing. You are alone . Deal with it . My friends told me such deceitful things are always on the move but it is impossible for them to come out from the black hole . Now , who is going to interview Sibhat Nega , Abay Tsehaye and many many thieves? Where are they , what are they going to do ? Many questions are being asked in your small world of Hayat . It is no more possible to rule Ethiopia and it will be a deathbed for you guys unless you go the train of Abiy.
      Meles will not get any peace praise nor will he recognized as a peace man . He will be forgotten just as Haile and mengistu hailemariam not even as the Desaleng.

      • Hayat Adem

        blink,
        what really happened to you? your posts used to be annoying. annoyance is a content. now, your posts suffer from nothingness. since you are spending sometime on the keyboard, write something constructive, if not write something even annoying. Don’t write thinking about me or being harsh on me. Write thinking what you could advance, deepen, counter or add… that way, you could do better.

        • Blink

          Dear hayat
          The reason I am harsh at you is because you openly killed a women called fever leaving her child alone with out knowing anything about her father and that kind of evilness can’t be acquired because TPLF lost power but because someone has to be born with it. I am not harsh on you if you know what you mean that I know what you mean. Don’t you see how people even posting their air ticket flight on Twitter, what else do you want ? Grace yourself with good hope . I have been honest about anything not because I benefit from it but because I have this problem of not following the bad things.

    • Mez

      Dear Hayat A,

      Very touchy.

      Thanks

    • Amde

      Hahaha Your Majesty,

      If it is our Ras Abi I have a feeling there would be multiple Fevens, and he would be memorable for the Feven specific two liners he would customize and gift to each. He would say half a line, and she who picks up the call would complete the other half in sweet heavily Asmarina accented Amharic.

      ‘Cause that’s how Aቢቲ do…

      Amde

    • gebremedhin yohannes

      Selam Hayat
      Whose fault was that?, you and your likes when you were jumping up and down
      Ululating ,happy and even may be you were giving names of Eritreans to the security when that cruel event was happening , infants as old as 2 weeks and old people as 80’s and above were deported ,you and the Elite of TPLF are responsible for that ( i am not including the people of Tigray here). You should be familiar with as Akilul’s blog on this web site what he said about our sisters , mother and daughters thy are the rock for their families unlike you.yes she take care of her daughter/son despite your government and your cruelty of separating families.Shame!
      This is cruel and insulting but what else can any body expect from you about anything Eritrean

    • Natom Habom

      selam hayat
      you are so evil as always when it come from you people minqegna
      do you think its funny to separate children from their mother ,husband wife ,wife from husband priest from his church ,it s imprecedented it will be remembered for generation for what you have done ,it karma for you you get what you sow
      you people are right to be frighten by the peace process and asking always to sit down and talk ,you want make sure that we will forgive you ,never never
      for how long are you guys going to hide in that tigray rat hole
      all will face justice those criminal and you have fun ye qen jibb time is up already

  • ‘Gheteb

    UAE Role In Midwifing The Ethio-Eritrean Rapprochement

    Greetings!!

    About a fortnight ago, I wrote the following. With some new revelation, let us see if any of my cursory analysis has panned out.

    ” The chain of events that, I think, may have transpired goes like this:

    A. Through the mediation/help of KSA/UAE and the US, the stumbling block and the big hurdle was removed when Ethiopia was convinced by the intermediaries that the first order of things was to acceptance without preconditions and ifs and buts The Algiers Agreement and EEBC verdict . PM Abiy announcing such a decision PUBLICLY removed the biggest hurdle.

    B. The three intermediaries then, assuring Eritrea that they will see to it that Ethiopia will hold on and honor it’s end of the bargain. (3 billion dollars worth of UAE/KSA potential investment in Ethiopia).

    C. Nudge Eritrea to give up on its demand that dialogue should follow Ethiopian withdrawal from Eritrean territories. Here the intermediaries may have impressed on Eritrea that they have a non-TPLF partner in PM Abiy and should not let this opportunity slip by. Also, the US may have hinted the possible lifting of sanction to goad Eritrea.
    (FYI, I think that FM Osman Saleh met with UN General Secretary in New York on June 23, 2018).

    D. Eritrea, then, agreeing to sending a delegation to Addis, sort of to ‘break the ice’ and start laying the groundwork for future negotiations.

    And, the rest is history unfolding in front of our eyes.

    I don’t like the notion that all of this was cooked up beforehand simply because it implies that the parties were handed over an end product here. I am of the belief that the parties have had much input on the end product”.

    According to a “Kaleej Times” article of July 11, 2018, under the title:

    ” UAE’s role in Ethiopia-Eritrea rapprochement draws praise “:

    ” Ethiopia’s Foreign Minister, Workneh Gebeyehu,, said the historic accord between his country and Eritrea was a result of the extensive efforts made by His Highness Shaikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan and thanked him for the seminal role he played in the diplomatic breakthrough”.

    This confirms that the UAE played a pivotal role in starting the Ethio-Eritrean peace negotiation. And, I am sure the UAE will be involved till its fruition.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam All, I hope those who are in a position to nominate the great PM Abiy Ahmed of FDRE to the Nobel Peace Prize for his noble message of peace, love, addition, and reconciliation, not only within his country, but also with neighboring Eritrea do so. A contribution towards peace and good relations between Ethiopia and Eritrea is also a great contribution towards stability, security and development of the entire Horn of Africa Region and beyond.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selamat @george,

    A few weeks or many days ago I read about your unequivocal support for PIA and I knew then how far apart you and I were on that point. However, I find my self agreeing with most of what you say except when I perceive you as demonizing or ill-wishing of my country.

    Now, I don’t like President Isaias Afeworki. There is no way in the world I will ever like him. He is one of two people I dislike to the extent I do in my entire life. He is arrogant, egotistical, unsympathetic, a terrible leader, a worst politician who should have retired or have been removed in 1993.

    So you won’t think of me as having a personal grudge of some sort, actually, the one and only time I met him, he said something very nice about and to me and I worshiped him for a few years. My real concern began in 1993 when I realized he was not and will never give up power.

    With that revelation, I backtracked his past steps, at least those actions public enough to be known to me, and I concluded that he has been systematically eliminating anyone whom he feared may someday challenge his position. I believe the G13 and G15 met their fate for that very reason.

    I hope have been equally candid enough about my position regarding PIA. So, any negative thing I said or will say in the future about him is only a slip after trying my best to restrain myself.

    If we can both look past each other’s opinion of PIA, I find the rest of your post interesting enough to think about and I will.

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Ras Abi,
    If you google “ethiopia peace corps diary: unity day ethiopia Eritrea”, you will see a feast for your eyes. Nov 18, 1962 celebration in Gonder “unity day”. It is in intpolicydigest dot org.
    Oh dear me. ኣይቀነናን ሎሚ ኣለ ጉራጌ ኣለ ኣምዴ.

  • Nitricc

    Greetings people. i just want to know what happened to Dear Hayat Adam? I just wanted to know she okay. You see, i care but you people thinks I don’t care about people. I am guessing she in Mekelle organizing the planned demonstration against PMAA. hahahahah.
    I can’t wait to See PIA rooming around Addis’s streets. I think it will happen in early August, just my guess.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Nitricc,

      Are you asking about our Queen Hayat ? Why? She was around and if you think she is upset don’t dream man,,She will give you hard time very soon,,

      KS,,

    • Mez

      Dear Nitricc,

      Hayat A was seen actively engaging Ethiopian parliament members to impeach PM-AAA!

      Working over time, and into the middle of the nights….

      Thanks

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Selam Nitricc.
      desperate times call for desperate measures. Hayat now has no time to pretend that she is Eritrean. Woyane kingdom is collapsing in front of Hayat’s eyes. The backbone of woyane kingdom ie to master minding war between any groups of humanity in East Africa is busted.

      You dont understand this unless you are hand picked WHO puppet president.If you were then you could have understood where and why Hayat disappear. Woyane needs all her children home now. Think of the puppet president how his every morning brigs the horror to his desk.

      So Time is against her now. Should she convince the Ethiopians that tigray endowments which monopolizes Ethiopians wealth is a hard earned money by woyanes or shall she moves all the money including the buildings, factories, farm lands woyanes owned. She has no time to play hide and sick in Awate.com.

      Besides what is the use of wasting time demonizing PIA while the whole world has seen him how human he is on the day Eritreans show the first ever welcome to a leader of a country people fought 20 years. What is the use of demonizing Eritrea while the whole world see how Eritreans managing their lives superb. Late alone Hayat who pretends to be Eritrean even BBC and CNN couldnt demonize Erttrea on this one. They couldn’t even dare to say PIA has forced the Eritreans to come out for welcoming our PM.

    • ALI-S

      Hello Nitricc,

      I’m hereby proposing that we crown you King of the House for persisting on a principled position from A to Z.

      If The great Hayat is in Mekelle, it’s one of two things: either (1) she made a U-Turn and managed to convince the TPLF to issue their wonderful statement praising President Isaias (in addition to PMAA) for their wisdom and effort, (2) her efforts to get them to stay the course failed because demonstrators did not show up.

      • Kaddis

        Hello Ali,

        I think the best partner for Eritrea is TPLF/ Tigray. They understand your nationalistic convictions, struggle and respect it. They know your aspiration and your minimum demands. They will bargain on your behalf from the Amharic mainstream. They have done that for countless minorities in Ethiopia. I can’t say the same for the Amharic unity camp and Oromo – even Debub ( Gurage, Sidama etc politicians) The best you can hear is Assab or the people as being one. The Amharic mainstream is so stubborn bordering ignorance.

        Let alone the Eritrean cause and issues– the Oromo question with all the sacrifice and the youth power to the point of breaking the nation – is struggling to be understood and reach mainstream.

        The Amharic centric unity camp – flag bearing mainstream – is denying Oromo the space. The Oromo elites are frustrated, coupled with their own division and rush to grab power in western Oromia, they may press for disintegration.
        I am open to learn how Eritrea can position itself beneficial if things are not going in its favour.
        Ethiopians doesn’t even know you follow Gregorian Calendar but expect to celebrate new year in Asmara.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Kaddis you said ” I think the best partner for Eritrea is TPLF/ Tigray. They understand your nationalistic convictions, struggle and respect it. They know your aspiration and your minimum demands”
          You mean after Eritrean put the TPLF in 4-Killo and TPLF returning the favor by deporting Eritreans shirtless because the Tigryans didn’t like the color of the Eritreans eye? please, stay as you have been, a straight shooter as you are. TPLF is the solo enemy of the people of Eritrea, no ifs and no buts.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            What amazing me is , outstanding gentleman like Saay7 sometimes get the information from the likes of kaddis, kebrom , admassie kind of guys. I wonder why?

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            I don’t believe saay trusts the people you mentioned, remember the grand game is not if Abiy will going to Keren or not the 28 deaths not even the Egyptians soldiers in sawa. I still think saay winks his eye when people tell him news as sources.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Blink
            I know, i know Saay7 don’t buy most of the nonsense from the people i mentioned above but since they don’t get it, they r embolden to vomit as if people buy thier nonsense.

          • Blink

            Dear teodrose
            I don’t see kibrom commenting because he knew he lied but he will come with new lies . In the Eritrean highlands ( refer to saay or Amanuel , Abrhet and isem) there is a saying that goes like this . Amet Mis megnez.

          • saay7

            Blink and Teodros:

            Guys, guys: I just checked the obituary and I am not dead yet:) Who is it I trust and don’t trust? And what is it I am trusting: their judgements or their credibility? Until we have an Awate Retreat and meet in person, all we can do is reach conclusions based on what people write. And my judgement on all the people you don’t like (serious question: do you like anyone?) is that they are very intelligent people with different talents.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            I think they r very intelligent people with a lot of hidden motives,
            I like every body except whose who hold fake none tplf identity tplfist . not the likes of fanti, he don’t fake it.
            Thanks.

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            I am tired of watching the movie, “Dumb and Dumber” everyday.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            I have watched it for over two-decades; my television airs nothing except that movie. Do you know what is the problem with my set or it is the airwaves that are carrying only that movie?

          • Paulos

            ኣንታ’ያይ ከመይ ‘ዝጊሀር ይሃብካ ንልዕሊ ዓሰርተ ሓሙሽተ ዓመት ዓንጊልካዮም ቁሩብ ኣእምሮ ተገበሩ ኢልካ። ግን ናይዚኣቶም ዘረባ የብሉን ዝገርም ድንቁርና እዩ።

          • saay7

            Paulos

            Time to dust off George Orwell’s 1984 because it explains everything. Remember: “The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.” Remember? Today, Ahmed Shide, the spokesperson for Abiy, in an interview with Eritrean state media Shabait said: “The Eritrean and Ethiopian people have for centuries lived in harmony and it is easy for them to maintain this peace for the times to come.”

            We have always been at war. We have always been in harmony. Your train is here: next stop? Who cares: get on board!

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            It feels like a sort of trance to even read Shabait doing an interview with Ethiopia’s communications director. More over, Asmara Rose in her tweeter feed mellowing down after 20 years of ቢቺ’ን about everything and anything that has to do with Ethiopia. She said, we need to look forward leaving behind the past. Oblivious of the fact that it is a fragmented past that can not be described in a genetic brush.

            What is extraordinary is the fact that, one man and only one man holds in his hands the life and death, war and peace of a nation. A thousand Abiys can not make him sway unless he wills. It is just extraordinary. If he is not the reincarnate of the past Pharaohs or Caesars, not sure what he is. I am dumbfounded!

          • SA

            Saay,
            You probably have come across these quotes by Eric Hoffer, but in case you have not, they describe well some of the PFDJ supporters.

            “Thus when the frustrated congregate in a mass movement, the air is heavy-laden with suspicion. There is prying and spying, tense watching and a tense awareness of being watched. The surprising thing is that this pathological mistrust within the ranks leads not to dissension but to strict conformity. Knowing themselves continually watched, the faithful strive to escape suspicion by adhering zealously to prescribed behavior and opinion. Strict orthodoxy is as much the result of mutual suspicion as of ardent faith.”

            “The loyalty of the true believer is to the whole–the church, party, nation–and not to his follow true believer.”

            “True loyalty between individuals is possibly only in a loose and relatively free society.”

            SA

            PS I have been following your exchanges with Gheteb. Your knowledge of the issues, ability to articulate your ideas, and patience to engage with people like Gheteb are amazing. Keep up the good work as you are doing a service to this forum and the country at large.

          • Blink

            Dear Saay
            No, i personally don’t hate anyone but I disagree and I despise when they lie in which I believe you do too.Imagine in your high box to believe everything these people brought to this forum, I don’t believe you have an appetite for such. Is there anything good talent for fabrication? I refuse to have such talent if it ever exist.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Tddy; I think SAAY is disappointed. He never believed PFDJ will end by external forces but He always thought that PFDJ will collapse under its own weight and things didn’t go what he thought and the frustration got to him. Considering what SAAY and his family endured under the current government, his frustration is well understood.

          • saay7

            Nitricc: still here:)

            Your assessment is not right. I am (a) happy we have peace (b) a peace we could have had 14 years ago (normalization before demarcation); (c) disappointed that not enough people will learn the right lesson from this.

            The issues I care about—civil liberties and democracy—remain in place. And yes democracy means the right of people to hire and fire their government. And yes that means if enough of you think that people who are credibly accused of committing crimes against humanity should lead you, I will accept the right of people to be wrong.

            Now which one of the above is confusing that requires you to drag my family into it when I never do? I didn’t even write a eulogy for my father. I try to debate on the merits not by sympathy shopping.

            saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear saay7,

            How, great are you !! Really, perfect talk…

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY; first of all i didn’t drag your family uncesasry nor in a negative way. I simply acknowledged the wrongs that was done. if you feel i drag your family, i disagree but i am sorry you feel that way. And i have already admit the timing and conditions of the peace deal this time around while it could have happened years ago, so, going back to that subject is waste of time, because you believe what i believe on that subject. I know you care ” about—civil liberties and democracy—remain in place. And yes democracy means the right of people to hire and fire their government.” and i believe the wellbeing of the country and security comes first. the only difference between me and you is that the situation in Eritrea, you think it was excuse for PIA to ride his power and i believe it was a real danger to the country but once this thing solved, i have no problem to join in and ask what the people of Eritrea deserve. having said that sorry you feel i was dragging your family unnecessary, it wasn’t my intention. My bad.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Kaddis,

          Just a question of the meaning of the terms “Amharic mainstream” ..”.Amharic unity camp” ” Amharic centric unity camp”, is it like Tigrinya to refer to some of the highland Eritreans we used to call Tigre, Tigrinya being their language or is it something else.

          Can the ” Amharic centric unity camp” include other ethnic groups other than Amharas?

          Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Selam KH,

            There is a not insignificant body that thinks Ethiopia is an Amhara plot.

            I don’t understand the logic of ceding the “Ethiopia” ground to the Amhara as if it is an insult.

            Blows my mind.

            Amde

          • Selam Amde and K.H.,

            “There is a not insignificant body that thinks Ethiopia is an Amhara plot.” This is the painful truth ethiopians should have in mind and should never forget.

            When tplf came to power 1991 it carried an anti-amhara and anti-ethiopia banner, because for it and those indoctrinated by it, these two concepts are the same, and their two main enemies. Still today there are many who think that unlike tigre- and oromo-nationalism, amhara nationalism is equivalent to ethiopian nationalism, centered on ethiopian unity. Amhara nationalism, that is the manifestation of the sentiment of a narrow amhara ethnic group that excludes other ethnic groups, does not exist. Their belief is that amhara nationalism is ethio-centric, aspires for a united centralized ethiopian state, at the center of which is the amhara ethnic group. Therefore Ethiopian nationalism and unity is to be abhorred, as much as possible.

            The Amhara are asked to dump their ethiopian nationalism and create their own narrow amhara nationalism devoid of ethiopianism (the reason they are also labelled as ethiopianists), which although tried, does not seem to have succeeded up to now. Look at the demonstration at bahre dar. The stadium was covered by the ethiopian flag (i am not sure if there were many amhara state flags), and for that the genuine tricolor without the tplf symbol. This has given a heart attack to some.

            When the unknown Abiy Ahmed came waving the banner of “ethiopian nationalism and ethiopian unity” he became the reason they rang the alarm bell and started to demean and demonize him right from the start. The amhara/oromo solidarity and the united ethiopia narrative by an oromo pm, made them feel a cold sweat down their spine.

            In the land where amhara and oromo stand for ethiopian unity, divide and rule is not going to work any more. That is why the new assignment is to create a wedge between amharas and oromos and to bring together tplf and pfdj. This scenario will never create domination of the one side by the other, or a tplf comeback. Dichotomy is the only possibility, the tigrewoch together and the rest on the opposite side, and survival of the fittest will be the motto, without thinking the consequences. Add tigray to eritrea and you can imagine what you get. Two resource-poor and fertile-land-poor regions, and a history of toxic blood between them, will only bring a lot of grumble and an ugly conflict at the end.

            Yes, to many the essence of ethiopia is an anathema and an insult.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam horizon
            1st there is no amara nationalism, if there r amara nationalism as u guys trying to tell, there is no way the likes of kaddis and u can live peacefully in addis with ur hateful attitude,
            All this so called amara nationalist group r created by andm to tackle the narrow ethnic nationalist of other ethiopia,
            Fighting injustice don’t make u nationalist.

          • Amde

            Selam Horizon,

            ሀላቸውም ቀጣፊ ናቸው።

            “Ethiopia is an Amara Invention”

            – Then once past independence Isayas starts talking about the meaninglessness of borders and how dear Ethiopia’s territorial integrity is to him.

            – TPLF creates a pax-Tigrayana to control this “Amara Invention” which it couldn’t supposedly bear to live in.

            – Oromo activists want the same geographic entity, except to be called Oromiya and everybody to become Oromo.

            They all try to destroy it only to find they destroy themselves. So they have to find creative ways to pull it back together for their own selfish interest.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            You wrote this and I want to learn be corrected if necessary.

            “The stadium was covered by the Ethiopian flag (i am not sure if there were many amhara state flags), and for that the genuine tricolor without the tplf symbol.”

            I think it’s a mistake to call the current Ethiopian flag, with TPLF symbol in it. I don’t think EPRDF has done enough campaigning to explain the emblem in the flag but it’s based on the Ethiopian constitution that was adapted in 1996. Based on wiki here is what the emblem represents:

            “The emblem is intended to represent both the diversity and unity of the country. Blue represents peace, the star represents diversity and unity, and the sun’s rays symbolise prosperity. ”

            Was the emblem used as symbol of TPLF in the past?

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            I am not sure about emperor menelik ii, but from what i know, since hs1 the ethiopian flag has a symbol (emblem) of one sort or other, which identified the the government in power. Imperial ethiopia had the lion of judah, the communist derg had its own (i can’t remember now) and the tplf/eprdf government under tplf domination and hegemony has the 5A + the strikes.

            There is always some meaning to the emblem. The tplf/eprdf government has obliged citizens by law not to use an ethiopian flag without the emblem, and people have been put in prison or intimidated for that. Maybe you remember, for tplf the ethiopian flag was a piece of rug, as much as it was concerned.

            Of course, tplf had no reason to use the emblem with the meaning it carried when it was still in the fields. First of all, it did not recognize the ethiopian flag, it had its own nationalist flag, and secondly ethnic federation and eprdf were conceived the last few months before its arrival at arat kilo palace.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I don’t recall Derg had an emblem. My comment was to clarify that the emblem is not and were not emblem of TPLF. It was created after inline with constitution. TPLF may have influence but I think it’s appropriate to call it EPRDF instead.

            When you compare with Eritrean flag as an example the current flag is exactly same as EPLF flag. The difffrence it has the golden branch, where the EPLF flag had star. The olive branch was in the original Eritrean flag.

            Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Selam Kim
            Yes of course from many Ethnic group. its more of a force – very strong in culture, media and attitude than from where people come from. I don’t know how to describe it well

        • Mez

          Hi Kaddis,

          Now the future is here to talk about “two nation–one people”.

          The divisive and vicious “school of thought” from Meles &CO time shall be dimentioned to its proper size.

          Thanks

        • ALI-S

          Selam Kaddis,

          Thanks for the cool headedness. In theory I think your argument for a Tigray-Tigrigna alliance used in good faith would make a formidable core for regional stability. That has always been the philosophy upon which the whole being of the EPLF and later the PFDJ was premised. Not only the PFDJ but even the Americans bet on its feasibility at one time. Both were disappointed by the result.

          The reason and you may not like this is the lack of collective experience of the Tigrayans. They spoiled the whole dream to fight for a tiny town that as proven by the EEBC was never theirs in the first place. In Weyane (I do not mean the derogatory connotation) a gang like mentality saw it reasonable to drive both national to the graveyard just to prove that they are above the law – international law in this case.

          This time on the surface it might look that the PFDJ is bypassing them to Amhara and Oromia but I have no doubt that the crown they are aiming for is a Weyane on leash. They are smart enough to figure out what you described about Amhara mischief.

          Most traditional Weyanes will be mad and defeated but in the long run they stand to reap the fruits of PMAA’s games. The new Weyane’s first test will be to prove that they are qualified to act as Sharbia’s foot soldiers in the jungle.

          Two things the PFDJ will never change are: (1) the phobia of Eritrean Muslims and hence an obsession with ganging just in case (Ag’azi Tigraway is part of the mythology); (2) a resistance to order and legal process simply because organized chaos is all they have known and the numbers are not there to support institutional change in the short run.

          This may help us see the possibility that in spite of their politicians ordinary Tigrayans may have a lot to gain.

      • Nitricc

        What is up Ali-S; long time where have you been? I hope all is good with you. Now, our home front is secure let’s turn the heat to the home front. Now the name of Nitricc has served its purpose with the security of the mother-land, soon i will change my name to the new the new home-front challenge.
        And the new name will be MERIR to acknowledge the complexity of the new front and its challenge that will present. Now you know. Good to hear from you my man.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Nitriccay,

      I know you are playing but I must say the following about Her Majesty Hayat Adem. Although I am aiming this at all Awatistas, I apologize ahead if you find it a little too heavy for the hour.

      I hope someday, hopefully soon, you will realize how lucky you are to have a compatriot this disciplined and with impeccable integrity as Hayat Adem. Do not let your current political differences prevent you from recognizing what a national treasure Hayat Adem and many others like her are.

      Why she found it necessary to caution us about PM Abiy is based on logic and experience. It was a hoya-hoye in Addis similar to that of PM Abiy’s support rally that marked the beginning of the 17 years of misery we experienced in our time. Any day, I would rather be that cautious and wrong than dancing to the slaughter house as we did in 1974.

      Those of us who supported PM Abiy from day one did so because we believed any change was welcome. We did not know and we had no proof PM Abiy would turn out to be this wonderful. Many intelligent people cautioned us to be mindful, to take it slow, and to even reject these changes because they feared a potential come back of a DERG like era at worst or an interruption of our economic progress at best.

      Given our immediate past, every political move of the last few months looked like a ganging up DERG sympathizers and everyone with an issue against TPLF with a potential to plunge the region into chaos for unknown outcome. Those who rang alarm bells are our guardians. They know we should watch where we step at all times. They know eating slowly is good for our health. They know የረጋ ወተት ቅቤ ይወጣዋል፤፤ We are lucky to have citizens like them and we owe them a debt of gratitude.

      Having said that it is true that there are also those with personal grudge on Dr. Abiy who are trying to use all sorts of tactics to not only discourage us supporting him but to outright reject him to satisfy their own vendetta. There are also those beneficiaries of current system who would be threatened by any form of change who are cooperating with them. However, we must not mix those with those with genuine concern for all of us now and in the long run.

      Differ politically if you must, but recognize the quality in the person you are opposing. Ultimately those are the kind of people who truly stand for you.

      • Nitricc

        Your Fitness; first the level of respect and admiration i have for you is solely based on your fairness, compassion, empathy and most of all your personal integrity. And i rarely, almost never disagreed with your take, however, when you mention Hayat Adam and Integrity on the same sentence, i can only, respectfully disagree with you. I can’t not tell you, because you know it how the people of Eritrea endured and suffered under what transpired the last 20 years. No person of integrity flais to utter one word of sympathy, truth and kind word toward the people of Eritrea. No person of integrity affords to hide his/her identity worst pretend to be Eritrean just to attack, digrade and insult to the people of Eritrea. So, when you say ” this disciplined and with impeccable integrity as Hayat Adem” you can’t be further than the truth. I understand it is your character to make a peace and speak of positive but when you mention ” integrity” i can only disagree respectfully. Most people confuse the meaning of Integrity. I have no idea how dictionary defines integrity but while honesty is telling the truth about something to someone but integrity is telling the very truth to yourself. I challenge you to show me a single sentence that is positive and truth about Eritrea and the people of Eritrea that was uttered by Hayat Adam; i challenge you. It is my assessment that Hayat is here to defend TPLF to the bone without buts and ifs. Even now when we are witnessing some amazing winds of change in Ethiopia her attack is toward the new PMAA against the hopes and wishes of the Ethiopian people for solo purpose defending the TPLF thugs. No person of integrity will oppose the current change in Ethiopia after what happened to the Ethiopians at the hands of TPLF thugs. Again i challenge you to show me a single sentence where Hayat Adam stood when the Oromo and Amhara where getting massacred by TPLF thugs? Sure, anyone with sense of integrity should be aware how dictators emerge to power and i have said a few words of warning about the new PMAA but to the length Hayat went against PMAA, simply illustrates TPLF mouthpiece. I regret for your Fitness to misuse the word of integrity and Hayat Adam.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Nitriccay,

          Very, very well argued. Imagine if we all argued our cases with the kind of honesty, decency, and respect you just showed me! I will humbly give you a point and bow out of this because your presentation became more important than the content itself.

          It so happens one private issue I have regarding Awatistas is that I constantly worry about those who would have put up a decent argument against my “speeches” are probably holding back out of common courtesy to the overall respect they have for me but not necessarily for my ideas being error free.

          Believe me when I say that I am extremely grateful for all the love and respect I have been shown at Awate. However, I would like you and everyone to know that I would be equally as grateful if I was challenged every now and then, and even receive a decent punch when I am out of line.

          It will help me sharpen my thinking ability and/or it will be a lesson for all of us. Either way something good will come out of it and it will never deduct from the love and closeness I feel with everyone.

          That was the longest way of saying, next time you sense I am wrong, please please have no mercy and I promise you that it will never deduct from the love and respect I have for you.

          Besides, the subject of the season is “addition” anyway. haha.

          • Nitricc

            Your Fitness; i hear you and there is a good reason why i held you to the highest regard. I could have said a few words but hold on that thought and we will continue when i get back. i will be away for two weeks till then, peace my brother. see when i come back. Respect!!!

  • Amde

    Awatistas,

    One Hundred Days!!!

    This kind of Meto-Be-Meto I can live with.

    Now on to Shi-be-Shi !!!

    That’s all.

    Amde

    • Abi

      Amdachin
      Genius!!
      እልፍ አእላፍ !!!!

  • Abraham H.

    Dear All, I read on Bloomberg that Ethiopia is buying 20% of the Eritrean Airlines. Eritrean Airlines? Is there any such airline, how much is its turnover? I think it would make sense if it was the other way round; Eritrea buying 20% of Ethiopian Airlines, in which case Eritrea would operate a kind of subsidiary airline, making use of some of the fleet of EAL.

    • Amde

      Selam Abraham,

      “Buy low – Sell high”

      Eritrean airlines is really cheap right now ..

      Ethiopian Airlines strategic goal is to transform into a holding company. An aviation group. Buying a piece of Eritrean is within its stated goal.

      Amde

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Amde, ok, I get it, now it makes sense. Thanks

    • Mez

      Hi Abraham H,

      We are the same people. If Ethiopian can be this, there is no reason that Eritrean airlines can not be a wonder in say in a decade or so.

      We have to come to our sense.

      Thanks

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Mez, this is not to deny the capabilities and potentials of Eritreans, but they have just not been able or allowed to unleash it, you know why.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, All.

    Think of there will be a peace agreement between the two countries. Imagine Ethiopian PM goes to Asmara and the whole Asmara people holding the flags of both Ethiopia and Eritrea and shouting love shall win. And a week later PIA and his deligation comes to Addis and millions of Ethoipians welcoming him waving Eritrean and Ethoian flag. Naaah, it is only a wishful thinking. It is only a dream.

    First late see if EAL starts flying. For a country which has went 50 years of war even a start of air flight is a miracle.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Mitiku Melesse,

      I don’t want to diminish the hopeful excitement of the day. It is warranted.
      All aspects of what you described progress to some extent as dream existed prior to 20 years ago.
      Hopefully this time the reset is founded on solid and realistic foundation for the sake of both people.

      Mr. K.H

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam All,

    To help us save our time from discussing rumors, this is my translation of FM Dr. Workneh’s briefing reporters in Amharic. Please forgive any errors you may find.

    Ethiopian Airlines will start flight (route) to Eritrea as soon as next week.

    This flight schedule is part of agreements reached between both countries during PM Dr. Abiy’s visit.

    The two countries have also agreed to establish a national technical committee which will be tasked overseeing implementation of these agreements.

    This committee will also follow up implementation of borders, Algiers agreement, and similar issues.

    This technical committee will consist several sub committees which will be tasked with details and implementation of economic, political, social, and etc. agreements.

    This committee, which will be supervised by both foreign ministers of both countries, will also study details of port usage. It will look into (study) details of either shared or lease based usage of ports and land and air transport tariff issues.

    There will be a visa requirement for Air travels which is starting next week. However, the committee will discuss removal of visa requirement in the future.

    The committee will also study and propose solution regarding prisoners of war captured during the war between the two countries. (This phrasing maybe important: በሁለቱ ሃገራት ጦርነት ወቅት የተያዙ የጦር ምርኮኞች እና እስረኞችን..).

    The two leaders also agreed that Eritrea will rejoin IGAD and contribute toward the peace and progress endeavor of the region.

    In addition, Ethiopia will make an effort for peace between Eritrea and Djibouti to materialize, for international sanction on Eritrea to be lifted, and to end Eritrean isolation.

    At this moment, based on the two leaders’ agreement, the process of opening embassies has begun. Those citizens of both countries who have been separated are [will be] able to reunite with their families.

    Subsequently, a resolution for free visa for both nationals will be sought by the committee.

    In their briefing, the leaders stated that they have agreed on ways of making both countries’, i.e. both peoples, beneficiaries of available economic advantage.

    Other:
    Ethiopia played a major role in the current peace agreement between South Sudanese factions.

    Dr. Tekeda Alemu has returned home after fulfilling his duties. If there are any other and different rumors regarding his return, they are far from the truth.

    The Foreign Minister also added that if there will be a peace prize award Ethiopia believes that Prime Minister Dr. Abiy Ahmed deserves it!

    • Paulos

      Selam Fantination,

      Many thanks for the info. The young PM seems to have fallen for the irresistible charm of the Scorpion where he went as far as confessing that all the stuff he heard about Isaias was far from the truth.

      Imagine, a PM of a huge country with 100 million people making a conclusion about a man who has made more enemies than friends for more than 50 years, with in two days of staying with him not in a rainy day but in a sunny day. Scary. Really. The Weyanes have every reason to worry if the young PM is Isaias’ man at Menilik’s Palace.

      • dawit

        Paulos,

        Didn’t you hear PMAA have accepted as the new Foreign Minister of PIA?
        Yes every thing coming from Arat Killo needs the approval of PIA the Field Marshal of the Horn of Africa to benefit the masses of both Ethiopia and Eritrea. Soon there will be a regional conferences of East African leaders under the chairmanship of PIA. Right now the whole Ethiopia love PIA except for some diehard TPLF Woiane criminals and Eritreans collaborators. . The 20 years of false propaganda against PIA and Eritrea is dissipating in the thin air starting from PMAA Dr. Abiye.

        Long Live PIA and PMAA!

        • Asmerom

          selam Dawit
          Are you just flying from Mars ?? The crimes of PIA is on the books of Eritrean history no need of woyanes or anybody to testify the Eritrean People are enough witness

          • dawit

            Selam Asmerom,
            No I am not from Mars our next neighbor planet. I am from the stars where PIA and PMAA came from. Eritrean people say ‘Nsu Nhina, Nhina Nsu! What proof do you need? Eritrean people said “Znegese Ngusna” that is PIA, the bright star who came to liberate the Horn of Africa!

            dawit

          • Abi

            Mezmure dawit
            ንጉሥ ተወለደ ከዳዊት ከተማ
            ተጎዘጎዘለት ለምለም ቄጠማ
            ስሙም ገናና ነው አንጋፋ በዓለም
            ግርማ ሞገስ አለው የሚደፍረዉ የለም
            ተወዳጁ አብይ ይኑር ለዘላለም
            ግዛቱንም ያስፋ ይጠቅልል ሁሉንም

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam dawit,

          Well said. The defeat, I mean the utter defeat, has rendered the Weyanes, the Weyane Eritrean errand boys and those bred-in-the-bone Ethiopian unionists in this Forum, are writhing with exquisite agony.

          The man of their odium is non other than PIA for he has led a small nation that has withstood and foiled all the machinations to emerge victorious.

          If you imagine a three legged stool to represent the forces that were hellbent in destroying Eritrea as a nation, the THREE legs are:

          1) The loathsome Weyanes
          2) The Eritrean appendages of the detestable Weyanes
          3) The inveterate Ethiopian unionists

          All three are anti-Eritrea, through and through! They are utterly distraught wallowing in acute DYSPHORIA because they see their Weyane is degenerating and is increasingly becoming IRRELEVANT in Ethiopian politics.

          Meanwhile, the victorious PFDJ is set to lead a “REINVIGORATED” Eritrea to a new height!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Gheteb,

            Well done job, bravo Gheteb. What you are doing I like it very much. Continue to give lessons to the region. Wayani has already taken many lessons from you to the flooding point. Yesterday, Omer AlBashier of the Sudan who opened the door widely to Isaias and the Sudan opposition he nurtured has also taken a lesson that he will never forget. Now, it is time for South Ethiopia to take the lesson. Isaias has already ordered Ethiopian oppositions whom he fostered in Asmara to return back to Ethiopia and carry out his orders from inside Ethiopia. Isaias went to Sudan with the Sudanese opposition same that is happening towards Ethiopia. Omer Al-Bashier came to Asmara bare hands same has done Dr. Abie Ahmed who left Eritrean opposition in Addis Abebah behind him. What a miraculous coincidence!

            After South Ethiopia takes the lesson well, the picture will be complete and the entire region will understand the mischievousness of Isaias and his cults in the region.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat Dr. Paulos,

        There is another way. PMA is the first Ethiopian to have understood PIA. The slightest criticism sends him to the moon.

        Abiyi Solution:
        Think of Tigriniya speaking Trump, Think of Tigriniya speaking Trump, Think of Tigriniya speaking Trump…

        • Paulos

          Fantination,

          Fantination and kindness that you are, I shouldn’t have expected the half-empty bottle perception from you. Wish everyone was like you. Stay blessed my dear brother. Really!

          The young PM, of course, to his credit is telling Eritreans that Tigreans have all the love and respect for them. Nothing less but the reason I said scary is that, a worshipper of Isaias in this forum said that, there is no way in hell a Tigrean will be sent to Eritrea to represent Ethiopia as an Ambassador. If the young PM is in fact a leader of every Ethiopian, it is imperative he knows that he is shaking hands with these kinds of people. Scary!

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            This topic comes up with a lot of Ethiopians. I don’t think Abiy is that naive. Remember he started off as a teenager in the Badme war. He was stationed at the border for years. He was an intelligence officer – a non-Tigrayan among the paranoid TPLF – who was trusted enough and judged competent enough to set up a whole new intelligence arm. And of course, what could possibly be the primary target of such an organization than the state with which the country is in active war.

            The speed of it all makes one nervous, but I do not think Abiy is going in blind about IA, his history or intentions. My guess is there are a lot more things riding on this and related deals that this scorpion will be stinging more and bigger entities than just “the young PM”.

            The thing that did not get much visibility is the meeting with Dawud Ibsa, leader of the Asmara OLF. It is not a promising sign that the press or Abiy did not make a bigger show of it. If things go south, Dawud Ibsa is probably one of the stings in the IA quiver. But the peace package will prove to be so tempting that this sting will probably stay in the quiver hopefully to wither over time.

            Amde

        • Selam Fanti Ghana,

          PMAA has to whitewash and sanitize dia before he presents him to the world community at his side as an equal partner for peace. Be sure, he does not believe what he says about the dictator. It is politics, he is doing it for the sake of peace, and for the sake of the eritrean people.

          All the rest, the big mission of presenting dia as the master of the game and as the ultimate winner by dia/pfdj supporters, is to boost their ego that has been shattered. They really need this psychological self-support.

          My fear is that dia/pfdj and their apologists may spoil PMAA’s effort for peace. Whatever they touch turns to ashes. Let’s hope they will not succeed.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Fanti,

          Trump was elected by the public. Your analogy also fails if their characters are compared.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Simon Kaleab,

            Are you familiar with the phrase “ኣንዳንዴ ዋልድባ ይዘፈናል?”

            Allow occasional silliness brother Simon. We have too many reasons to be tense as it is. However, you are right.

        • Amde

          Fanti,

          On one of CNN twitter feeds, they mention that Ethiopians are calling random Eritrean phone numbers.

          Well, one of the tweet responses goes “Another Trump Foreign Policy Success!”

          Still laughing…

          ዝገርም እዩ አለ ጉራጌ

          Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Are you up to fly to Asmara? And did you know that, the flight is daily? EA will make tonnes of money not to mention all the Diaspora Eritreans flying back to Eritrea via Addis. Time to buy shares!

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            Rumor is current EAL deal is ETB 7200 which includes 5 night hotel stay.

            Boeing 787s.

            How do you spell ካ-ቺንግ! in Tigrinya..

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Amde,

            That is really funny. ምን’ነው በሰላም ነው? ያለፈው ሁለተ ቀን “ኣለየሁህም”።

          • Amde

            Paulos,

            Haha..

            I thought I would enjoy things better just reading than pontificating.

            I confessed to a friend that I have become ነፍራቃ over the past 100 days (Today is Day 100 of the Abiy Era). A dude who gets emotional and teary eyed over what is transpiring. Watching Asmarans come out ended up being one of those emotional things for me. I assumed it would be a scripted thing but I am awestruck how genuine it ended up being.

            I would like to believe you represent the future Paulos. After I posted the price and rate info, it occurred to me how banal and normal it was. And that is hopefully what our conversations turn out to be. Delightfully boring due to the utter normalcy of it.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            Man, since you joined the ኣቢይ train, we miss our old Sir Amde with his zingers. What is it Fanti said? Medegef Qeld mesloh! 🙂

            So, just like the “Phone calls between Ethiopia and Eritrea have been allowed!” announcement appears to be more of one directional call (Ethiopia to Eritrea), the Ethiopian Airlines maybe that for now. A people who don’t have freedom of speech and freedom of movement will need a bit acclimation.

            So, Amde, a friend calculated the flight from Addis to Asmara. (First class of course) and it is $1,525. My guess is many Ethiopian awatistas will go before many of us opposition types do (such is Eritrea) and you can then come and argue with us and say, “when was the last time you were in Eritrea? I was just there last month…” Ah, good times.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            End of June 2014 we were discussing to meet at Masawa. Fanti promised me to be my personal guide.
            Of course I don’t expect you to remember petty stuff. Well, that is all I remember:).
            Keep dreaming to be on a Dreamliner. My First Lady is singing Michael Bubble “Home”.
            የቆየ ከሚስቱ ይወልዳል ይላሉ ትግሬዎች

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            Nice jock !! Keep going..Abi what ever the case let me assure you that will be materialized as soon as this situation change,,

            when the real men come and control the entire horn..

            KS,,

          • saay7

            Ras Abi:

            As an Eritrean, year “2014” means nothing to me unless you use some Eritrean milestone. And no 4 years before Negus Abiye assumed the throne is not good enough. You have to reference it to sanctions, Geneva, EEBC, HRC, SEMG, SR, MDG, Akhria, Sawa Round something something.

            I am only half joking.

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay…

            Haha…
            Zingers? Believe it or not, am a bit stressed on the work front and that has the effect of tamping me down, but I have to say that is rather flattering since I have long ago humbly accepted I am more dork than zing.

            I have yet to be disappointed with anything Abiy has done, so no worries on መደገፍ being the unቀልድ – but my god that man is a veritable dynamo. He spins so fast and sends out waves of positive energy.

            Besides, how could I top the Cuz Buzz? Enjoying every minute of the logic vs cult show. I feel I would be spoiling a good thing.

            As I type this I am listening to one of those wild eyed Facebook broadcasting people who can’t tell if they are disciplined activists or natural mouth diarrheaist (not diarist). This one is an Oromo “activist”, who just waxed lyrical about the much misunderstood humanity of Isayas, and then parleyed Abiy’s success in Asmara into a matter-of-fact statement of “የኦሮሚያ ድንበር ቀይ ባህር ነው።” So if you were afraid things have changed too fast for you – never fear – there is still some semblance of the old left.

            Life nowadays is much much stranger than fiction. I feel the unfairness of how things have transpired – IA coming up roses – who woulda thunk it? But fear not, you must know the logic of this opening is the elevation of the expectations among common Eritreans to sky high levels. It’s remarkable really. This Abiy dude literally gets and practices the “winning hearts and minds” thing with gusto. The awe-shucks demeanour, ጥዑም ቡን sipping, በለስ-munching Bros show will inevitably result in pressure on Wedi-Afom. Asmarinos made huge history. That many people don’t voluntarily come out without it being a political event in and of itself. It is a matter of time. Until then, perhaps you can tip toe a trip to the region and visit good old ሸገር።

            I dont know how the $1525 Addis-Asmara round trip price was calculated. That must include some wild Massawa orgies haha.. because it is way off the mark. Scuttlebutt is there will be daily flights on 787, but that might get dialed down depending on traffic. Dont know when and how long the 7200 ETB suggested will start, but that is $240 ish depending on exchange rate and that sounds about right.

            Amde

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amde,

            Oh Amde, let me barge in here and bring to the forefront what happened in a very very recent past. (Abiy time)
            So many big things happening on so many fronts, it is easy to forget medium and small items, house cleaning, so to speak.

            There is the question of Satoshis, tons of Satoshis you owe. I think prior to interest, compound interest, beginning to accrue on it, you should settle it. One way would be to give a constructive notice that in September/October specific time you would be in a 4 or 5 star hotel in Addis waiting to pay off. If nobody shows up, there is nothing you can do about it, the case will be closed.

            I am not an attorney, but sometimes in cyberspace…….

            Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Mr KH,

            Ah I like you looking out for me.

            But ነገሩ እንደዚህ ነው።

            My bet is Ethio troops will still be in their current positions as of May 2019. As you know, IA is saying we will take our time on the borders.. So I am still in good shape.

            Saay’s chances lie with the rest of the terms..i assumed IA will be on “Final&Binding” and the Ethio side would be on “Talk First” mode in May 2019. Obviously that part is .. well .. not so great for me haha..

            So, I suggested to him he can argue his case with a good ነገረ ፈጅ.. which I proposed to bring for the measly sum of መቶ ሺ ሳቶሺ…

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Amde,

            You guys should clarify whose clock you will be using to measure time. It is rumored that PM Abiy’s clock moves 16 times faster than any clock in the horn.

          • Amde

            Selam Fanti

            Indeed..

            እኛ .. የረጋ ወተት ቅቤ ይወጣዋል
            እሱ.. Shake Shake Shake for a MilkShake

            Amde

          • Selam Amde,

            What would you say if the bridge of love brings both armies to the town of badme for a football match one sunday. What about a declaration that says the next battle between the two armed forces will be strictly stone throwing at each other, as has happened between chinese and indian armies some months ago. Any soldier who fires ammunition will be court-marshaled. Wow! Have you heard of a battle of stone throwing between two groups of monkeys? I think that they use sticks, for sure.

            Nobody is going to touch the hot potato called demarcation, not PMAA and not IA, unless tplf and tigray are part of it. I am going to say this until i am proved wrong. The ethiopian pm is not crazy enough to send the national army against the local population as some eritrean regime supporters demanded. Therefore, your satoshis are still safe in your pocket, at least for a year.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam horizon
            1st Listen to 3A speech in the parliament when he talked about why he accepted the Algiers agreement without preconditions and than come back and wow wow it like ur pic all day long.
            He clearly said withdrawal of soldiers from the border will be decided by tax payers of ethiopia people, not by tplf. He even sarcastically said if tplf want to keep the statuesque the same. They can do it on thier own.

          • Amde

            Selam Horizon,

            I dont know about the stone throwing part but the moving out of Badme might take a while as you said. In the end I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up with what MZ suggested – follow the ruling on the eastern and western sector and make swaps in the central sector.

            This whole “there is no border between Ethiopia and Eritrea” business is nice rhetoric but the sooner possible sources of conflicts are sewn up the better.

            Amde

          • Hope

            Horizon:
            Basically the Rule of Jungle should rule over the Rule of Law!
            The TPLF style .

            Well,then why did we go to the Court then?
            Do u know who inhabited Baduma for centuries until May 1998?

            I care less if Irob goes to back where it belongs,which we never asked for as long as our lands falsely claimed to be Tigreyans Lands per the Pathological Liar Sium Mesfin, come back to us.

            If u r talking about the VoA interview between Prof Habteghiroghis and Dr Ghelawdios,the Flip-flopper and war mongerer Tigreyan Chauvenist who suggested the Algiers Agreement and the EEBC to be VOID and NULL last month via TOL,then time will tell.
            The good thing is that he agreed on Baduma issue but asked for dialogue on the Irob issue ,which is reasonable as it is not Eritrea’s fault but that of the TPLF and the uninformed Court .
            We never ever asked and will never do so,for a land that never belonged to us.

            Granted,I care more about the Unconditionally declared Peace and its long awaited sweet results.

            But I don’t think that the Oromos and the Amharas will fight for Baduma any more.

            Our border is virtually demarcated and recognized as such officially by the UN.

            Won’t be surprised if Dr Abiy has a hidden agenda of buying time and resorting back to the old new TPLF or Amhara Agenda but that is another story andcagenda reserved for future historians and generations.

            I prefer to live better for today while planning for a better tomorrow .

          • Selam Amde,

            Soon we will hear that the awash – mekelle railway construction will continue to asmara. The diehard eritrean ultra-nationalists, who are scared their uncontested hegemony in eritrea is coming to a sudden end, those who do not want to see a tigrean ambassador in eritrea, etc, may come out to oppose it, because a free and developing eritrea and a country that is a member of the normal world community, is anathema for them. This time they will be at the receiving end of the stick from dia, and no more carrots, as in the old days.

            The new eritrea is born, the midwife a young ethiopian pm, and the old and the dilapidated system is crumbling down to the joy of all eritreans (no true or falls eritreans this time, just eritreans), ethiopians (who are after all true friends, despite what the eritrean regime and its supporters told eritreans all these years), and of course the world community (which wanted to see peace and harmony in the region).

            Whoever stands on the way of the tide of change, will be crushed by the change, and thrown into the dustbin of history and forgotten. It the time to embrace change, even if it is for the first time in the lifetime of regime supporters, genuinely and unconditionally, the time to be on the side of the eritrean people in bona fide, this very moment when history is being made. How is it possible to continue to be on the wrong side of history, when the stark evidence shows us that it is the end of history as we knew it over the last fifty years or so, and a new and hopeful history is dawning upon us. Eritreans and ethiopians should accept it with joy.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam horizon
            What different does it make if the ambassador is from oromo or guraga or somali? Isn’t he will be represent of ethiopia or his ethnicity?
            get out of “menedertagn” mindset.
            What is that eri gov told to people about ethiopia? U need to know the difference between country and hated gov by its own people too. As far as i know they r against the tplf and the previous govs, so do the ethiopian people’s except u guys the gov supporters.

          • Hope

            Selam Horizon:
            Remember that Eritreans are human beings and is only natural for them NOT to trust few people,who should not be trusted for obvious reasons and based on history.
            Granted,Eritrea and Eritreans have a right to accept any one regardless of….,
            Eritrea turned down a U S Amb legitimately ,not just coz of hate or politics .

        • Abraham H.

          Dear Fanti, so for how long is PMAA going to massage the ego of DIA, even if it is to the detrimental of the Eritrean and Ethiopian peoples?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Abraham H,

            Every day, I am being surprised by the skill and finesse PM Abiy is conducting business.

            1. PIA is now dragged into the light. Whatever he does will be done in public.

            2. There will be embassies, diplomats, and lots of heavy traffic which will make it hard or unnecessary to go miskin hunting.

            3. The less hiding places PIA has the more often PMA will remind him he is wining, and the chain reaction will continue for a while.

            This is the absolute minimum outcome I would look forward to.

          • abdulworld

            Fanti, I think you are twisting events or filtering events to fit your narrative…
            What Abiy is doing is normal at the international space… this is what is called peace making…
            What is helping Abiy is generational difference… I think a lot of people commentators on awate are missing this major demographic shift and are looking at Ethiopia and Eritrea and their conflict thru the lense of 70s 80s 90s lense…
            For Issias and his aging entourage are 20 or 30 years older than PM Abiy.. so there is no baggage.. Trust me if PM Abiy was 65+ years old.. things wouldn’t be happening like this…
            Of course, you can paint this whole event by saying PIA can’t hide or this or that… I think this is your own filtering..

            The best way to see this PIA and Abiy relation via 65+ year old man dealing with 40 year old person… also it is very old and tired old man who knows death is around the corner… and a young dynamic person with no baggage asking him to make peace…
            Abiy has given Issias the best possible gift to give an old dying man… pass the next world as peace maker… and to be perceived to have done some good before next world.. whether it is reality or not…

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam abdulworld,

            I like your advice and the lesson of looking at things from a different angle. I will try to take this to heart. However, I have to say something about my opinion of PIA down below in response to @george and I hope you will not take it as contradiction to my acceptance of your advice.

            Thanks.

    • Selam Fanti Ghana,

      O Wise Hippo of the Tekeze.. . Blue Island is reality, good job.

      tSAtSE

  • FishMilk

    Hi Abi. Can you please send one case of special Gojam gipto katicala? That gebs katicala from Debra Berhan gives me a bad morning after headache.

  • Blink

    Dear all especially Saay
    New revelation is coming for former Somalia official about the sanctions imposed on Eritrea. His name is Ambassador IBD.Mohammed he said “ As Former Alternate Ambassador of Somalia to the UN who participated all discussions and meetings between UN SC and IGAD member states, I can confirm the sanction imposed to Eritrea on behalf of Somalia by UN SC was politically motivated than factual or evidence based” . What was your main defense for the sanctions on Eritrea.

    • FishMilk

      Hi Blink. Don’t you know? Of course CNN was the source!

      • Blink

        Dear FM
        I just wanted saay to say what he wants to say because his past comments are a public record and I hope he come up with his new explanation. I have always said all the Somalia thing was a lie

        • FishMilk

          Hi Blink. Got ya. The bad thing is that everyone knew that the Somalia allegations were bogus but yet they employed it in the ‘at all costs’ efforts to topple PIA/PFDJ even if it meant hurting Eritreans and risking state security. Sleeping with the TPLF in this regard was simply deplorable.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Fishmilk,

            Deplorable is riding wayane to kill your brothers and sisters. Don’t you think so?

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. Are you referring to irrelevant ancient Greek history again? That which has no connection to UN sanctions being unfairly slapped on Eritrea?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FishMilk,

            My response was to your comment that refers to “Sleeping with the TPLF in this regard was simply deplorable“ and not sanction. So I was trying to remind you that the worst deplorable is riding wayane to kill your brothers and sisters than sleeping with wayane. In both cases we are talking on the recent history of Eritrean politics. The conspiracy against your brothers and sisters is not Ancient Greek history. Shame on you.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. Referring to events before liberation is ‘ancient’ history to me in the context of U.N. sanctions against Eritrea.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Fishmilk,

            I refer you to read my response to Dawit. If you stop blackmailing the opposition as wayane, we will stop reminding your friendship with wayane to kill your brothers and sisters. Okay FishMilk?

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Amanuel.
            Difficult to defend mercenary woyanes this time, ha. If there is money or power jump in and shoot or make them shoot one another. It was difficult upto now to define woyanes. Now peoples in horn africa come up with real meaning of woyanes. የቀን ጅቦች..

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. You are a Vet for which I have respect for and will therefore refrain from entering into further negative discussion on this subject. Suffice it to say, we all have ghosts in the closet which we would like to forget but unfortunately simply cannot.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FishMilk,

            No brother. We can forget and open a space for Justice and reconciliation. If we do that, and stop blackmailing each other, we will do good service for our young generation to take the stock of their nation. I want to see that, and sure yourself as a veteran (which I respect you), you wish to see that – leaving our nation in the good hand of our young generation. Have a good day.

          • dawit

            Selam FishMilk,

            There are Eritrean stuck in the last Century the Civil wars among Eritreans in 1980s. Somehow they could not accept that EPLF beat them with their own game of eradicating EPLF, that was when ELF had the number and Superior weapons. At that time they adopted a resolution to have only one liberation front in Eritrea. EPLF fought back and finally had the upper hand forcing ELF to abondon the struggle for Eritrean Independence. The rest is history but old ELFites still don’t want to admit Eritrea became an independent country under the leadership of EPLF. So old ELFites have been working to overthrow Eritrean government by any means. It is time for old ELFites to accept the reality of today and move forward by accepting the leadership of PIA.

            dawit

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dawit,

            At least they did not bring foreign forces to do for them. These all crying wayane, wayane, against the opposition is simply when they forgot their history, that they got hands from them to kill their brothers and sisters. Aren’t themselves who invite 6,000 wayane troops to help them to the bloody civil war, when they can’t do it by themselves. Damn.

            Now, No one is happy about that dark history. But when you blackmail the opposition as wayane, then we can’t fail naturally to remind them their bloody hand with Wayne against their brothers and sisters. You see Dawit. You stop these blackmailing then we will stop telling their dark history. After all FishMilk is part of that dark history.

            Second, since the history of EPLF is the history of the Eritrean people it is my history (all the good and the ugly). I was part of both organizations at different time and space. They are my history. Stop these childish talk, something you don’t know.

      • Nitricc

        Hey FM; I want you to listen to Dr Debretsion’s discusstion with Tegaru Artists Part 2. it was just posted, today. Go to Mesob Tigrigna and click under ” Dr Debretsion’s discusstion with Tegaru Artists Part 2″
        it is troubling to listen to those idiots and I feel very bad for the rest of Ethiopia and I think the peace deal between Ethiopia and Eritrea is in danger.

        • FishMilk

          Hi Nitricc. Thanks. I’ve listened to it. Its simply insane and sad.

    • saay7

      Selamat Blink:

      The “new revelation” is the same as the “old revelation”: the regime of Isaias Afwerki, due to ineptness, lack of diplomatic acumen, stupidity, bumbled Eritrea into sanctions. For detailed info, read another ambassador: Ambassador Andeberhan Woldegiorgis, in his book “Eritrea At A Crosssroads.” Pages 311-312 if you are busy. Excerpt below if you super busy:

      “Clueless about the adverse geo-political consequences of its total isolation, the dire implications for the country, and the enormous difficulty in getting sanctions removed once imposed, the regime virtually dared the UN Security Council by insisting on blanket denial and refusal to heed its repeated resolutions and warnings. The government’s pathetic behavior allowed Ethiopia to scheme not only to deflect attention from its continued defiance of the EEBC’s mandatory ruling but also to further isolate Eritrea. Addis Ababa capitalised on Eritrea’s self-suspension of membership in IGAD and the AU to mobilise unanimous support for a resolution calling for UN sanctions against Eritrea by the two regional bodies.”

      It’s funny how you guys think the political ineptness of the Eritrean government is the best defense you can come up with. Of course, every sanction in the world is a political decision. That a government that calls itself a government doesn’t know that is criminal, that its followers and the “independent Eritreans” continue to reject the facts to demonstrate their “patriotism” is a worrying sign for the country. That even after PFDJ is gone we will have to deal with such mindset.

      saay

      • FishMilk

        Hi saay7. A fundamental and basic question: Do you believe that UN sanctions on Eritrea were justified? The GoE’s response/reaction to the sanctions is an entirely different matter.

      • @george

        Dear saay….

        history is not on your side. Let me explain, if you are against the American Empire they will come at you no matter what. here’s a choice you surrender lose sovereignty, or you fight back. the American Empire combined with the British Empire have at least a thousand years of diplomatic skills. I don’t care what kind of diplomatic skill you have if they don’t like you they will sanction you. so you’re quoting some Diplomat means nothing. Surrender everything all resist to death.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        Which one of these two is that brought Eritrea to be sanctioned?

        (1) That because the Eritrean government is so INEPT that it “stumbled into a regime of sanction”?

        Or,

        (2) ” every sanction in the world is a political decision”, viz., that Eritrea was sanctioned for political reason(s)?

        Choose one. Choose one and only ONE.

        • saay7

          Cuz Gheteb:

          I choose option 3, presented to me by my favorite cuz:

          3. It was the single achievement of the opposition, which doesn’t exist.

          PS: 1 and 2 are not mutually exclusive.

          Saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            My favorite Cuz, that is the ne plus ultra of all copping out. You have to create a third alternative to sneak out from choosing one of the two options by claiming they are mutually exclusive.

            Talk about the near impossibility of pinning down SAAY!

            BTW, I have been bracing about the bad, er, the terrible news you had for me regarding the release of political prisoners in Eritrea?

            What about the claim that the push that brought the Ethio-Eritrean peace talks came not from the State Department but from Congress?

            Mind apprising the Forum?

          • saay7

            Gheteb the Cuz iest:)

            No, really, what you presented as two choices with the instruction of choose one are not mutually exclusive choices. All sanctions the UNSC imposes are political. All. And as Andeberhan said that the UN was left with no option but to sanction after issuing escalating warnings that sanctions were coming. If your prez did in 2009, what he ended up doing in 2010 (Djibouti mediation) the Somalia issue alone may not have resulted in sanctions. The point is: if you don’t have one of the P3 members in your corner, you will get sanctioned if you continue to defy the UNSC. I think they teach this in PolSci 101.

            On the release of political prisoners, my intel may have been off: it was the entire prison in Jigjiga. I celebrate every release of every political prisoner anywhere 🙂 And that was a guy (Somali region prez) who thought he was untouchable a mere 6 months ago.

            On the Congress vs State Department, I promise to tell you ግዜን ኩነታትን ምስ ኣፍቀደ as your org says.

            saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. Sorry but an understanding of PoliSci 101 does not mean that you give up the interests of your very own country, especially when it is being wrongly accused, simply because P5 cards are stacked against you. This is where the opposition just gets it all wrong and looses potential support. Instead of defending Eritrea and her people (not PIA), and vehemently protesting against unfair U.N. sanctions, the opposition just rolled over and joined the TPLF in blaming PIA/PFDJ.

          • Hope

            SAAY:
            Please expand further your answer and clarify with links and evidence as to why both reasons are NOT exclusive!
            My position as been the same that both 1 and 2 played a role but more so by 2!

      • Blink

        Dear saay
        No one in this forum believes PFDJ are good at diplomacy. What I asked was sir , at one time you put the sanction was a sanction not only Somalia al Shebab but also Djibouti thing . I don’t believe your reference to Andebrhan book is an answer I was looking but since you choose . Thanks for the offer though. I don’t believe Putin is dump as Issaias yet well , what can I say . The truth is open for everyone to see.

        • saay7

          Blink, selamat:

          Instead of relying on what the basis for sanctions was on me or the PFDJ spin, read not just the resolution authorizing sanctions and the resolutions preceding it threatening sanctions. Then you will realize that Ambassador Andeberhan described it succinctly: a self-isolated government that bumbled itself into sanctions.

          I don’t know what the Putin thing has anything to do with this: he took a calculated risk that all the West will do is sanction him for his invasion and annexation. And they did. And he believes he can weather the storm. Unless you are talking about Russia’s yes vote on the first sanction on PFDJ (2009) and its abstention after that.

          But blaming the world for our own screwups is the warped “Eritreanism” my Cuz is selling and you are a willing buyer.

          saay

          • Blink

            Dear Saay
            I was trying to say the difference between two sanctioned parties, Russia was sanctioned because of their disturbing actions . On the opposite, Ethiopia was the guilty part , yet Susan rice knew everything was a lie all about Al Shebab yet Eritrea got the sanction. As Eritrean as Everyone is , I believe the sanction did nothing to Issaias but blocked Eritreans from many things. By the way the sanction never worked to help the public on anything. Why would anyone defend or even try to reason out a sanction against his country? That I didn’t know , even I tried to see it from my enemy’s enemy is my friend yet got short of good answer. By the way I don’t buy anything from anyone, I have been wondering about Eritreans explanation and their reasons about this.

          • saay7

            Blink:

            The sanctions were imposed on Eritrea due to massive miscalculation by the Eritrean government. You either believe that, or you don’t. I do.

            Once you believe that, you can “defend the country” and demand of the UN that the sanctions be lifted. Or you can demand of your government that it smarten up and do the right thing.

            The government recognized its dispute with Djibouti, but not providing political support to Somali groups deemed as outlaws by the international community.

            Then , it was sanctioned again, this time at its pocket book. This got its attention and it stopped talking about Somalia and shut its mouth completely. (This is the same government that had become the spokesperson of the Somali Shabab). But by then the UN had imposed new sanctions.

            So the Eritrean government is like a driver which gets cited for a moving violation —-driving without permit, speeding, reckless driving, no brake lights, cocaine in the glove compartment and the car is impounded. The fine is $350, then it ignores it and says the cop was biased, the 350 becomes 1,000 then 2,500 then 5,000. Meanwhile, your gang is stuck on one thing: the police did not find the stash of cocaine in the glove compartment. So, everything is a lie. Lie lie lie lie lie. Meanwhile it refuses to appear in court….

            Instead of blaming the world for the behavior of an outlaw government (question: if it is an outlaw gov at home why would you expect it to be anything other than an outlaw abroad?), isn’t it the right of the people to say “we deserve better than this government?”

            saay

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Ras Abi,
    Why don’t you dreamline bigger. How about “ፍቅር እንደገና” or “From Gojam with love”?

    • Amde

      Hi Abrehet

      Or as some wit somewhere called it..

      ጎጃሚing To Asmara ፅቡቅቲ..

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Awate Team,
    The Federal Government Communication Office has now given more information. ለምሳሌ ሐምሌ 17 ቀን 2010 ዓ.ም ጉዞውን ወደ አሥመራ አድርጎ ሐምሌ 18 ወደ አዲስ አበባ የሚመለስ ተጓዥ ለአየር ቲኬት 8,944 ብር እንዲከፍል ይጠየቃል። ለንጽጽር ያህል ከአዲስ አበባ ካርቱም 12,172፣ ከአዲስ አበባ ናይሮቢ 9,779፣ ከአዲስ አበባ ጅቡቲ 9,561 ነው፡፡ የአየር መንገድ የእለት ዋጋ ሊቀያየር ይችላል፡፡
    It further states: አሥመራ ላይ በብር መገበያየት አይቻልም። የኤርትራ መገበበያ ገንዘብ ናቅፋ ይባላል። 1 የአሜሪካን ዶላር በ15 ናቅፋ ይመነዘራል።
    Now in a case of the turtle having to keep up with the rabbit, on visa it states: ኢትዮጵያዊያን ወደ ኤርትራ ለመጓዝ ቪዛ ስለመጠየቃቸው እስካሁን ይፋዊ የሆነ መረጃ ባይወጣም፤ በአዲስ አበባ የሚገኙ የኤርትራ ዲፕሎማቶች እንደሚሉት ለጉብኝት የሚሄዱ ኢትዮጵያዊያን አሥመራ ሲደርሱ ቪዛ ማግኘት ይችላሉ ብለዋል። ጨምረውም ከጉዞ በፊት የተጓዦች የፓስፖርት ኮፒ ወደ አሥመራ ይላካል።
    quoting EBC which was quoting BBC it give estimated cost of hotel, transportation etc. It then recommends visiting Massawa. Now, we know, foreign passport holders (anyone who gets a visa to visit Eritrea) is restricted to 21 miles from the center of Asmara. Perhaps that restriction will be lifted now that we don’t have security problems? What about the exit visa requirements for visitors? Will that be waived too! Long live the rabbit, red tapes will start crumbling down. The first flight is scheduled for 24 July (I think), there must be marathon meetings in the Internal Security office to put everything in place.
    By the way, it will be a 787 Dreamliner (for those who were betting on which aircraft will be used).

    • Ismail AA

      Selam dear Abrehet,

      Did you miss the time check in – check out is going to take at the port of entry, or they wanted to keep it secret? I think Ethiopians should be better advised they will not be landing at Frankfurt. It’s an airport controlled by authorities of a police state.

    • Blink

      Dear Abrehet
      It is a big relief to families who were apart for over 2 decades. By the way the 21 will stay to some foreigners, for example there will be people who will never get a visa as far as PFDJ is in control . for example there are people like Martin plaut and all white men and women of his alike .

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Blink,
        It is time to add not deduct. Why don’t you think of who you would wish to visit Eritrea that would make positive contribution. In any case, you know the Eritrean government values the opinion of its citizens. There is a small comment/opinion box at the immigration office. Perhaps you can drop your suggestion there. Moreover, would you have a problem with non-whites who are like Martin Plaut?

        • Blink

          Dear Abrhet
          I can’t travel to Eritrea but if you can pls do send my comment. Again as I said the many experts of Eritrea ( whites )will not be added they don’t have any positive contributions to the people of Eritrea. They already did everything they can in the past 20 years . If I can advise the Eritrean immigration officials, I say put these people in a non flight list and never ever get their foot in to Eritrean land because of the reasons they played in helping weyane .

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Abrehet,

      How much is the cost in US dollars? I see a huge potential for the Diaspora Eritreans travelling to Eritrea to fly Ethiopian from their own destination, transit in Addis and fly from there to Asmara. Specially if they have regular flights between the two capitals.

      Berhe

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Berhe,
        At the current exchange rate of Birr 27 to 1 dollar, it would be around 332 dollars. Perhaps the diaspora summer vacationers in Eritrea will do quick visit first. Except, Ethiopia has a special visa requirement/process for holders of western country passports but whose birth place is Eritrea. There should be another immigration announcement from the Ethiopian side if all this is to work.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Abrehet; the question I wanted to ask is that if one US dollar is 27 Ethiopian birr and if one US dollar is 15 Eritrean Naqfa; then what is the exchange rate between Birr and Naqfa?

          • Blink

            Dear Nitricc
            The current rate of Nakfa to Birr is
            1Eritrean Nakfa=1.837 Ethiopian birr , which means Eritrea can’t be exporting the same goods that Ethiopia has but Salt , Fish are possible.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Blink I know the international exchange rate between Birr and Nakfa; My question was what is the local exchange rate? If you think the Tigryans going down with that rate, you are crazy. I heard they can’t stand Nakfa due to the picture of the camel, I heard they thinks Nakfa is a Muslims currency, so my question was to that extent and off course I failed to explain it. Tigriyans will never accept Nakfa let alone a nakfa higher value than Birr.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Nitricc

            If my math is right:

            If one USD = 15.00 ERN and
            If one USD = 27.00 ETBR

            Then 56.00 ERN = 180.00 ETBR or
            0.56 ERN = 1.80 ETBR

            Semere Tesfai

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, Semere.
            The math is correct. But how long ERN holds its strong value in the near future. The market value of ERN is not tested so far due to the sanction and many other reasons.

        • FishMilk

          Hi Abrehet Yosief. For the sake of simplicity, wish that at least in regards to Nakfa and Birr exchange, that they exceptionally allow OPEN exchange rather than through banks. Problem now is that both countries do not have open FOREX. Just talked to a friend that returned from Ethiopia and he told me that he changed money on the black market at 1 USD for 37 birr.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, FishMilk.
            They will fix it. This time around they dont have ‘mediators’ or home grown hyenas. The tow leaders made it as too informal as possible. Let the ill wisher be busy wasting their time on sabotaging the development of heir own people while the leaders focus on the important task ahead of them.

        • Berhe Y

          Thank you Abrehet.

          I think change in immigration would probably good idea. Or like what they do in Eritrea for those ID card holders they don’t require VISA even if they have the western issue passport.

          Right now for example from Toronto -> Addiss is around 1000 dollars and another 350 that would be 1350. This is really a good deal comparing what people go through via the other carriers,…for example egypt air, price is at least 2000+ and go from Toronto -> London -> egypt -> Asmara with stay over in Cario and lasts sometimes 37 hours…where as with Ethiopian will be 16 – 18 hour…

          Same can be said from other US cities such as DC, west cost… Specially if they packaged the price together…and offer special tickets…there will thousands of people who take advantage.

          Berhe

    • Desbele

      Selam Abrehet,
      ጎብየን ማንቲለን ኮይኑ ጉዳይ
      The speed of things happening from south is amazing. I dont know how the ጎብየ -እሞ ከኣ ዝተገምጠለ to catch up. Think of all the past weird rules for women to get exit visa from Eritrea at different times in the past 20 years,

      ቅድሚ 94 ዝተመርዓወት
      ድሕሪ 94 እንተተምርዕያ ዝወለደት
      እንተዘይወሊዳ ዕድሚኣ 47 ዝመልአ
      እንተዘይመሊኣ ዘገልገለት እሞ ዝተጣየሰት
      በዓል ቤታ ኣብ ደገ ዝነብር እንተኮይኑ 5 ዓመት ዝገበረ እሞ ከኣ 2% ዝኸፍል ድሕሪ 98 ዝወጸ እንተኾይኑ ናይ ጣዕሳ ዝመልአ ….it goes on

      • Paulos

        Desbele,

        You’re killing me here. That is so funny! 😂😂😂

      • Saleh Johar

        Desbele,
        This could be the laughing stock even for an ancient tribal legislator. Thank you for reminding us how the legislators of mengistna operate.

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Desbele, ጎብየ -እሞ ከኣ ዝተገምጠለ, hahaha. The old tortoise has no chance of catching up with the speedy Ethiopian leader who churns reforms almost on daily basis. There is no catching up in Eritrea, unless the baton is passed to the young, educated, energetic and reform hungry generation.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Ethio-Eritrea: Formation Of

    Greetings!!

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awate, “unless the government of Eritrea spoils the flight arrangement, as usual, we are hopeful it will be a relief for business people and relatives to vest both Ethiopia and Eritrea.” Of course the zeriga is going to spoil this opportunity as well, it will just be a matter of time. Or may be the Ethiopian Airlines will just give up servicing Asmara because of horrible ground services.

  • ALI-S

    Selam All,

    This is just to say congratulations for what we have seen so far on the Eri-Ethiopian normalization. I think it is a big step forward coming out of nowhere. It would have sounded a distant dream a few months back. Of course we all wish this had happened a long time ago for many of those who dies struggling for a better outcome to see but better late than never. For starters, I think a positive and optimistic attitude serves several purposes:

    1. Even if you do not support the PFDJ (I don’t) we have to give their many supporters the credit for persisting with a lot of patience to see this thing through. I think we should all bow and applaud them for a job well done – specifically on how the border war came to an end and how they had predicted it would end. They banked on the Weyane being defeated and Weyane defeated itself – tried to choke Eritrea and they choked themselves. I have recently been watching tons of youtube videos where ordinary Tigrayans are actually very very mad at the levels of corruption and incompetence of their traditional TPLF leaders. I think the only place where we were made to believe they were geniuses was here in the opposition. I hope they smarten up now and sneak into the bandwagon.

    2. Starting on a positive note will give the opposition an opportunity to start from a single point of departure for the future. Many who were counted as opposition and were on a united front until the resolution of the border issue and mishaps related to it such as economic hardships, national service, international naughtiness etc will have the chance to say good bye at this point. Starting on a negative note at this point will lead to the same fate of disunity as was the case after independence where many took too long to adapt to the new reality.

    3. As of today (assuming the two leaders will keep their words), the long shopping list of opposition menu including PFDJ’s foreign policy, major human rights issues, Alshabab allegations etc will definitely disappear one by one or will fall on deaf ears and be hard to sell to mobilize indiscriminate support.

    4. Good idea to also wait and see may be an opportunity to admit at least to ourselves may be we were wrong and we need to change. I would like to believe that this would not apply to me because I actually believe the what I have always considered to be real opposition (oppo with a cause worth fighting for) will find new steam. The PFDJ may change on everything you can imagine except on its core ethno-religious political identity. I expect that whatever is saved by making peace with Ethiopia will be spent on making war to prove themselves right.

    Thanks you for reading!

    • Ismail AA

      Hayak Allah ALI-S,

      Well, if ALI-S is the same as the familiar Ali Salem welcome back. The sabbatical was quite long, and hope was productive and exciting. Your take on the events is applaudable because they reflect an assessment of pragmatic mind. Reading your congratulatory words, the extremist end on the Eritrean political spectrum that accused you as formidable counterpart should take deep breath and reciprocate.

      As to opposition brand you mentioned in item # 2 and 3 to begin with many of them had not gone far from the regime. They just crossed to the other side of the bridge and wanted the regime meet them in the middle by conceding on few reform oriented issues as implementation of the regime’s own constitution. The events Ethiopia’s EPRDF had shrewdly set in motion principally for domestic purposes might give many of them reasons to walk the regime side half of the bridge and make safe home return. The pending question is whether the regime and its omnipotent supreme leaders will show clement heart and receive them without indemnity for daring to cross the bridge.

      As to veteran opposition, they are accustomed to vagaries of fortunes in opposition vs establishment politics which are never static. Things more than often take dramatic turns mostly often to the disadvantage of the weak part of the equation – opposition. The history of Eritrean people’s struggle are replete with such turns for which this space cannot afford to delve in. The pattern or option as you have point out is to pause and watch which direction the tempest would take and what damage it would cause. I am referring to the opposition that pursued opposition politics right from day one with declared intentions and purpose. If the past could be a lesson, that part of the opposition would not disband and shred their programs to flock to the door Ethiopian Airline ticket offices and make reservations to Asmara. They know current Asmara will remain what it has become after 1991.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Ali-S,

      Did you hear anything positive from Isaias except hugging the peace call from Dr. Abie Ahmed? Please, enlighten us to join you in the plane heading to Asmara. I hope our opposition not to repeat 1991 scenario. I think all of us remember, except those with short memory, their racing to Isaias leaving behind them their Organizations, cadres, grassroots and their organizations properties. The result was they were expelled from Asmara within a short time or some of them were executed by the night visitors gangs of Isaias.

    • Paulos

      Selam Ali Salim,

      You don’t have to tell us that you are not PFDJ. What you just said proved that you are not.

      The honeymoon is certainly over and it is just a matter of time till the Scorpion bites the Frog. It is only then, one will be compelled to take your point format comments to heart.

    • Peace!

      Hi AL-S

      Welcome back! Well the disgruntled boss (TPLF) makes that decision perhaps when final check furnished. They do not have much to pack other than SHAME, REGRETS, and of course, CLEARANCE from constituents in Diaspora for the embezzled money. So NOT so fast:)

      Peace!

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Peace,

        “Shame” you say!’ Motive of wish-driven convenience cannot immune the allocator of it standing at receiving end. Who’s to feel shame: a regime that suffers from paranoia of any type of opposition and sees its demise in mere recognition of it and makes sure God given rights denied or conscientious citizens who put themselves in harms way to change that very condition of an unfortunate nation?

        I hope you won’t repeat what the regime has been parroting about Woyane. The regime’s shame has already been written in the annals of history for relying on Woyane guns to kill fellow fighters just to become what is now. It’s sometime good for humans to consult their conscience before handing over judgement. As a free man by creation (regardless of political or emotional expediency), what you wrote in this entry is offensive. Sorry if I sounded a bit disappointed and responded by reminiscing sad part of our recent past.

        • Peace!

          Hala Habibna,

          I think the record speaks for itself without going into details. I always thought criticizing and shaming failures were a part of “cleaning our own house” as far as Opposition camp concerned otherwise the evilness of PFDJ should be a measuring too for our failures.

          Peace!

    • FishMilk

      Hi AL-S. Thanks for the interesting comments! Eritrean opposition based in Ethiopia is now on 24-hour suicide watch. Opposition (especially those that have sympathized/collaborated with the TPLF) use of Ethiopian Airlines to fly to Asmara? LOL. Nah not likely. However, could be a possibility if they have a legal name change, sex change, and major reconstructive surgery. One should not forget how Eritreans (wrongly) stoned red cars in Asmara shortly following liberation simply because some connected the color red with the Dergue. One can only imagine how known opposition members/TPLF sympathizers, will be treated by Asmarinos, even if they do find a way to secure a visa and enter.

    • Blink

      Dear AL.S
      Are you Ali salim ? If not there is nothing I can say but if you are Ali Salim from the old beja state , it means you are out from the smallest box ever constructed by you . And it means a great lesson to the opposition leadership what ever their plan or where ever they are .

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam ALI-S,

      You said: “…we have to give their [PFDJ] many supporters the credit for persisting with a lot of patience to see this thing through. I think we should all bow and applaud them for a job well done – specifically on how the border war came to an end and how they had predicted it would end.”

      Are you flip-flopping again? And you are glorifying the “many supporters” for what? The current peace breakthrough is because of the change of position on the Ethiopian side, not because of the cultist-like behaviour of PFDJ supporters.

      One thing you are not flip-flopping about is your emotional attachment to “ethno-religious” issues. Can you remind me about the GOE’s view on your favourite topic and how you feel about it?

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Simon Kaleab,

        You are saying:

        ” The current peace breakthrough is because of the change of position on the Ethiopian side, not because of the cultist-like behaviour of PFDJ supporters”.

        Never mind your outlandishly zany characterization of PFDJ supporter as “cultist-like”, one is forced to ask the following:

        a. If it wasn’t for the unwavering support of the PFDJ supporters and their steadfast commitment to their organization, would Eritrea been able to weather the all-out attack that was mounted against it from virtually all corners?

        b. If it wasn’t for these PFDJ supporters that you are derisively dubbing as “cultist-like”, would you be calling yourself Eritrean with a sovereign state today?

        And, you said, also that, ” The current peace breakthrough is because of the change of position on the Ethiopian side”.

        Yeah, right. You make it sound like the Ethiopians woke up from sleep one day and “changed their position in Eritrea”.

        Aren’t you WILLFULLY forgetting the role of the Eritrean government played in influencing change in Ethiopia through all manners of help it accorded to the forces opposing the Weyane dominated regime in Eritrea?

        Oh, yeah, don’t forget the invaluable contribution of the PFDJ support in this project of national defense, be it financially, politically or diplomatically.

        And, if you think the contribution of those PFDJ supporters is something to sneeze at, then tell me what is that you have done to keep and defend Eritrea intact as a sovereign and independent nation in the past one and half decade?

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Gheteb,

          The characterisation of PFDJ supporters as cultist like is rooted in fact.

          A system of belief that is closed and demands total submission to the “dear leader” is nothing other than a cult. Within the PFDJ, even constructive criticism is not tolerated. For example, you [Gheteb] oppose an Ethiopian ambassador who is Tigrayan. But if Isaias shows no objection to such an appointment, and you insist on holding a contrary view, do you think your position as a PFDJ believer will be tenable? No, you will be tossed away to the vultures.

          The silly, no-war, no-peace condition was hurting both countries, no doubt; but it was hurting Eritrea, the smaller economy, more. If you believe in the delusion that the various circus games the PFDJ was playing made the new Ethiopian PM weak kneed, I wish you unbounded happiness.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            You have it. Well grounded argument.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            How convenient is it to go off on a tangent and eschew the questions that were pointedly posed to you!

            Why are you so afraid to answer the questions that I have pointedly asked you instead of bringing a red herring issue?

            But, you have no SHAME whatsoever to belittle the contributions of those Eritreans who have contributed hugely in its defense against all manners of machinations be it sanctions or naked aggression.

            I believe you won’t be able to answer the enumerated questions honestly without revealing the fact that your contribution towards the defense of Eritrea was/is BUBKES, meaning NOTHING, compared to those you are denigrating so unabashedly!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Gheteb,

            I have always insisted that Ethiopia vacate occupied Eritrean land. I am happy to see the beginning of peace between two brotherly people. The rest are cult based circus games which you believe to be the highest form of Eritrean nationalism.

            I like to speak freely being outside the cage.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            Whether you ” speak freely from outside the cage or you have insisted that Ethiopia vacate Eritrean land”, is frankly beside the point.

            That was NOT the issue or bone of contention here. I am pointedly asking what have you done PRACTICALLY and what have you contributed to the defense of Eritrea?

            Eritrea is standing as a sovereign and independent nation because of the SWEAT, BLOOD and TREASURE of those who have done so with self-less devotion and dedication that you are brazenly and unashamedly labeling as “cult-like”. That is the crux of the issue and the rest is beside the point.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Gheteb,

            When you ask: “what have you contributed to the defense of Eritrea?”
            are you asking if I am a member of the EPLF/PFDJ? It seems, for you, the PFDJ is synonymous with Eritrea.

            By the way, what have you done for ordinary Eritreans yourself?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            No. No, I am NOT asking you if you are a member of PFDJ. How could you be a member of a “cult-like” group.

            I am asking you what you have done as an individual or a member of a non cult-like group to defend Eritrea through BLOOD, SWEAT and TREASURE.

            Don’t try to turn the tables on me here. I am NOT the one who is shamelessly belittling and denigrating those PFDJ members who have contributed HUGELY in the defense of Eritrea. It is you and you only who is disparaging their IMMENSE contribution in their steadfast defense of Eritrea.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Gheteb,

            I was only able to cheer Eritrean soldiers from a safe distance.

            Now, your turn. What have you done?

          • iSem

            Simon:
            Gheteb also has cheered the Erirrean tegadelty once upon a time, but then even that was too hard and as Nitricc says he hid his tail between his legs like little rabbit and he run away. I think u did more than cheering, but even if u did that than you have contributed more than Gheteb, u finished the cheering, and now Gheteb the person (real name with held until kunetat is favorable) named himself after one of regions in Sahel is cheering IA, the leader of the cult from afar.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            If you were only ” able to cheer Eritrean soldiers from a safe distance”, then you are one INGRATE and SHAMELESS person to insult and belittle those who have done the heavy lifting.

            I have done nothing compared to those patriotic PFDJ members and at least I am NOT the one insulting and denigrating them. I am grateful for their steadfast resistance and their HUGE contribution in BLOOD, SWEAT and TREASURE.

            Only those whose shamelessness that knows no bounds are the ones who belittle and insult the valiant PFDJ members from a safe distance.

            What a RANK hypocrite!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Gheteb,

            You are in full cadre mode today. Are you in your Chairman Mao uniform making a speech in front of the mirror? Be careful, the Bolshevik Felix Dzerzhinsky, creator of the Cheka [OGPU secret service] died of a heart attack at the podium, in 1926, while making a passionate speech at the Central Committee, attacking Stalin’s enemies.

            My question is: What have you done for ORDINARY Eritreans yourself?

      • saay7

        Selamat Simon:

        Omg, the power of “Da Train” has even swept one of our greatest contrarians, Ali Salim:)

        In the last 14 years, since Ethiopia proposed its “Five Point Peace Plan”, it is not just the Eritrean regime and its supporters that have shown lack of imagination and stick-in-the mud mindset. It is also the opposition.

        Now Ali Salim is telling us that we have to give credit to the PFDJ for “persisting with a lot of patience to see this thing through.” What exactly was their plan? That due to Ethiopian internal dynamic that they had nothing to do with, a new leader would EVENTUALLY emerge, with whom they would have the exact same deal they rejected: negotiation and normalization BEFORE demarcation? And, for that, regardless of the cost paid (draining the country of its youth, crimes against humanity, proxy wars which result in sanctions), they need to be complimented?

        Well, then, what exactly will be the lesson learned? I mean for the whole country: what is the lesson we will have learned? Always reject peace treaties because, 14 years later, they will be even sweeter? Follow a leader without question? Let’s not have a parliament to debate war and peace issues? What exactly is the lesson we should learn?

        saay

        • sara

          Dear saay,
          I think they are telling us to wake up as it is new day already….
          WaGeHo ….eu

          • saay7

            Saba:

            You keep misconstruing the message of “twgaHmo” although you think you are being clever about it. The message is: never again trust a government and demand accountability.

            So, when it is a new day, and you just went through a massive national crisis, the normal thing to do is to never talk about it?

            saay

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY; you know that Sara is the one she posted not Saba; right? hahahahah

        • ‘Gheteb

          Cuz SAAY:

          You are all over the place propounding “the five point peace initiative” the notion that it was as good as the five pillar peace and friendship plan that was signed recently. You further posited that the five point peace plan is even better because it calls for an investigation to the cause or genesis of the conflict.

          What boggled my mind was how conveniently you forgot that the inquiry of the genesis of the Ethio-Eritrean conflict was stipulated in the Algiers Agreement to be conducted by one of the three commissions. Do you have to go this far to downplay the recent Ethio-Eritrea peace agreement?

          I hope you are not downplaying Eritrea’s role in what transpired recently in Ethiopia by postulating that the change we have witnessed was all “Ethiopian internal dynamics”.

          You have been asking TOUGH questions, no, very TOUGH, questions for a very long time. And, I am sure you will be raining all manners of queries till the cows come home.

          Once the Ethiopian embassy in Eritrea is open — they are still identifying sites or locales for it — ( contrary to what was reported by you know who — you will be afforded a chance to ask more question, asserting that Yemane G/Meskel is so damn slow in updating us about new development.

          Finally, I promise to share my theory that may explain why you and your fellow travelers in the anti-PFDJ camp are so,so ENAMORED with the Weyanay prime minister’s Five Points Peace Intiative or Plan.

          • saay7

            Favorite Cuz Gheteb:

            I can’t wait. Be sure to give a cool title to your post for ease of reference by you know who. ሓንቲ ጽብቕቲ ዓንቀጽ ጽሒፈ ኣለኹ 🙂

            I hated the TPLF’s Five Point Peace Plan. But then, I am not a government, with responsibility for 3-4 million people. I have the responsibility to do a realistic cost-benefit analysis and then make prudent decisions. Not to self-reference, but this is why I wrote “Being Prudent vs Being Right” in 2004. And the bottom line is, the Peace Plan of 2004 was “negotiation before demarcation.” And the Peace Pillar of 2018 is still “negotiation before demarcation.” What changed? A new government in Ethiopia entirely driven by Ethiopia’s internal dynamic. That is, if another Hailemariam Desalegn type had become the new premiere, you would still be saying “No Negotiations! Demarcation first!” This is what Simon Kaleab meant when he described the PFDJ as a cult.

            The catch-22 with cults is only someone who is not a cult member can describe a cult as a cult. The same people who exercised terrible judgement are doing appraisal of their terrible judgement (using the same flawed reasoning) to conclude that their terrible judgement was the correct one. And they get agitated when you point this out with simple facts: “Negotiation Before Demarcation” was offered in 2004, and “Negotiation Before Demarcation” was accepted in 2018. Except, this time, there is no “investigation into the events that led to the 1998 war.” Same flawed reasoning awaits with the next crisis.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            I will bide my time to put forth my theory why the anti-PFDJ camp are BESOTTED with The Weyanay Meles Zenawi Five Points Peace Initiative.

            But for now, isn’t the Algiers Agreement calls for the formation of three commissions, to wit:

            1) The EEBC
            2) The claims commission
            3) A commission that investigates ” events that led to the 1998 war”

            Yeah, you can talk about the PFDJ supporters being a cult all you want, but the question to ask is: why is it that it is so hard for you non-cult anti-PFDJ elements with all your patrons to defeat these delusional and mindless PFDJ cultist supporters?

            Would it have made sense if the FBI was to merely spout and parrot about The David Koresh cult if they have utterly failed to defeat it?

          • saay7

            Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

            As you know, while the Algiers Agreement mandates demarcation and claims to The Hague it delegates investigation of the origin of the conflict to Addis (AU) and it’s decision is neither final nor binding. So, either party could ignore it and that’s what happened.

            On David Koresh, he would remain a cult whether the FBI was effective or not. We define things by their behavior (attitude, habits) and not by whether we were able to arrest or change them.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            Forgive me if I am wrong here. The reason why I am bringing commission that investigates ” events that led to the 1998 war” being a part of the Algiers agreement was because in one of your comments you asserted that one of the reason that The Five Point Peace Initiative is even better than The Five Pillars Peace Plan is that the former calls for the investigations into the cause of the war.

            My point here is to show the superfluity of it because it has already been stipulated in the Algiers Agreement. You catching my drift here?

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb:

            I am catching your drift. What I am saying is the Algiers Agreement was very loosey-goosey about determining the origin of the conflict (it left it to the broke OAU whose resolution would not be binding) and the Five Point Peace Plan was trying to incentive both countries to look into this ignored issue and said “resolve the root causes of the conflict through dialogue with the view to normalizing relations between the two countries.”

            It’s the latter that your government is still struggling with, with a PM from Oromia telling it “hey, don’t believe the hype” of “activists and politicians” (he means you guys) who have been weaving Tigray, tegaru, lbi Tigray, deceitful, thugs, etc etc design to make this hate a festering wound in every speech and every post for the last 20 years. You have now leapfrogged all the nuts by demanding no ambassador from Tigray.

            saay

        • FishMilk

          Hi saay7. The disingenous intentions of Ethiopia’s mendacious Five Point Peace Plan are on the net for anyone to easily read. Just Google ‘Wikileaks Ethiopia Five-Point Peace Plan SRSG Legwaila’. What PM Abiy brought to the table is 100% different in content and sincerity.

      • iSem

        simon:
        There are the true believers like Gheteb who bragged that 40 years ago, among the 300 strong school mates he along an other Eritrean were the only EPLF supporters. And EPLF became PFDJ and then became IA cult, he evolved along with it and is proud of it, no questioning, to criticizing as his cult is perfect in his own deluded mind: probably retired or on disability benefit or paid agent and writes lengthy, illogical, lies and Latin laden prose.
        And there are the opportunists like Ali- Salim, the IA cult still grabs land, people’s land, after lumping every highland as a land grabber then he made his infamous U-turn and now he completes it with bowing down to the PFDJ supporters for sticking it, “tsnaat” , they were endangering the nationhood and the damage they did is irreversible and I hope many do not get fooled by the temporal availability of water and electricity
        So watch out for the opportunists as they smell new opportunity in the new reality. The likes of Gheteb may disgust us but they are robots and we can hack and reprogram them, they maybe good for us, but the the Ali-S are the dangerous one and other who swaddled in the justice seeking garb have emerged bragging, swinging and singling praises
        ነዝስ እንቛ አርከብክሉ

      • ALI-S

        Selam again!

        Interesting comments from all but mostly out of the mark. First to Blink: Yes it is me but I keep losing the password to Disques and have to invent a new way of signing on.

        To Simon, SAAY, Ismael and all the great people I need to clarify my point:

        1. It doesn’t matter how change came to be the way it is. The important thing is that change has come and sooner than later will take us back to 1994 (pre-war normal). If things work out there will be dramatic shifts on several key opposition talking points. I have no doubt the PFDJ will come up with lots of drama to prove that what was holding them back from attending to people’s needs was the border deadlock. Some of them will definitely include: national service, lifting some of the restrictions on the free movement of people, the constitution, and hopefully some progress on the issue of prisoners.

        2. I think now is the time to discuss on a new and updated agenda for the opposition. May be we need to wait a little bit and see where the PFDJ falls short of meeting people’s demands so that we would know where opposition is needed to compliment what would be missing. I must be honest with you, I am open to change on everything that I think is spurious opposition agenda i.e. democracy and bla bla. I actually love the President in this department and was happy to finally see him excited and almost levitating. I think he also believes the traditional opposition is clueless and have no serious agenda which I think is true.

        3. I am sad for the quarter century of golden opportunity for both the opposition and Weyane that was wasted because the latter were obviously too busy robbing Ethiopia and playing smart on their old teacher than getting ready for the rainy day that is at hand. The rainy day for them is indeed here. The only thing that brought the bulk of happy reactions to the current breakthrough in both Eritrea and Ethiopia is the perception that Weyane and their childish politics have defeated for good. My call is for both opposition and if they have some influence in Mekele to give warm hugs to one another, forget the past and find ways to hitch a ride on the new current.

        4. On what I consider is woven into the identity of the PFDJ including my beloved President, i.e. ethno-religious blunder, I do not see any hope or signs for change. After all if the current peace deal takes us back to 1994 on a time machine, we will land on a scene where “they guys” are rounding up the usual suspects in Islamic schools in Keren and beyond, engineers teaching Ha-Hu in kindergarten and refugees watching their land being robbed from across the border.

        Any other ideas? Please share

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam ALI-S,

          I don’t share the notion that the Eritrean Opposition Groups either hogtied to the odious Weyanes or are remotely linked to it, would rehabilitate themselves and come up with new and alternative ideas to challenge the PFDJ.

          I believe that, and their record is replete with so many examples, that they will forge on with their established praxis which is: We oppose whatever the PFDJ supports and support whatever the PFDJ opposes.

          I don’t think there is any way for the redemption of these Opposition Group in the Eritrean political arena without a wholehearted political ATONEMENT for the cardinal sin they have perpetrated against Eritrea by aligning themselves with the execrable Weyanes.

          I believe that the PFDJ will oppose the TPLF jumping into the bandwagon, or as you put it ” to hitch a ride on the new current”, without the TPLF thoroughly reforming itself and the TPDM or DeMHiT given a major role in Tigray.

          • Mez

            Dear ‘Gheteb,

            Most likely reform is order of the day both in a) tplf, b) pfdj; at the same time.

            To think pfdj is a winner party will be a misunderstanding of contemporary politics.

            Thanks

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Mez,

            Comparing the PFDJ and the TPLF at this juncture of what you are dubbing as ” contemporary politics” is literally like comparing apples to oranges.

            The TPLF is in a pickle and has to reform thoroughly or will totally atrophy to irrelevance in the Ethiopian arena.

            The PFDJ, on the other hand, has WON hands down and, for all intents and purposes, is “REINVIGORATED”.

            This is not only my opinion, but also of some other political analysts of the Horn region. Of course, I am confident, that such views will be vindicated with time.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam ‘Gheteb,

            Boy, you are on fire these days. I thought your bag was history, ancient history of the Horn, at that. Who knew.

            I just read a post by Ali Salim, a bold truth teller, pontificating about current events and his open mind for new ideas.
            He once wrote here at Awate that the best interest of Eritrea will only be served if Ethiopia disintegrated. I don’t think he changed his mind.

            I am sure you know him or of him, do you think he has a point or put another way do you see the current events leading to Ethiopia’s disintegration paving the way for the best of Eritrea. I hope you answer the question.

            On a different subject:
            Just for your information I see your debate posts with Awatistas, please continue the capitalization of certain words. I do that too for emphasis, so it can’t be all bad.

            For example just now you capitalized the word “REINVIGORATED” in a sentence, I could tell you were really INVIGORATED and EXHILARATED. The only thing missing is the ZERAF….ZERAF, who knows that might come later.

            Mr. K.H

          • Mez

            Dear ‘Gheteb,

            I differ. But if you say it otherwise, I am ok.

          • MS

            Ahlan Gheteb
            I agree 100%, not only that but I see PFDJ leading a successful post war transition. The priorities are now consolidating peace and stabilizing the country and the region. the rest will follow. TPLF made Tigrians blamed for the ills its small clique has caused in Ethiopia and the region. Tigrians need to look inward for all the complaints they are voicing. The culprits to their present predicament are within Tigray. The sad part is that the same elements who put them in this situation are now using them as trenches to save their skins.
            On the other hand IA and PFDJ definitely rescued Eritrea and made Eritreans finally proud again. We hope the phases forward move smoothly.
            1. peace and stability
            2. rehabilitation of the economy
            3. demobilization of the army, stabilizing national service to its initial 18 months
            4. laying out a political road map including the making of the constitution, rallying Eritreans towards a bright future
            5. PFDJ will play a central role in this transitional period which could take more than 5 years.
            I’m confident most genuine questions such as rule of law will be answered along the way with the stability process which will include reforming and upgrading the justice system. But the priorities at this time will be #s 1,2,and 3. I think.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Ahlan Mahmuday,

            Well put. I hope you will dilate and flesh out the 5 points enumerated above by adding more realistic and pragmatic details.

            I read your article ” Dawn: morning has broken” and found it to be very illuminating. Keep it coming.

            While we are witnessing the breaking of a dawn, there are those who want us to be stuck in their never ending “once upon a dawn” a.k.a “Twgahmo”.

          • saay7

            Ala Cuz Gheteb:

            You continue to amaze:) so, a political party that:

            * hasn’t had a Congress since 1994 (24 years)
            * Has most of its central and executive committee members arrested, exiled, disappeared
            * Whose membership is made of involuntarily enlisted;
            * renounced its singular achievement to nation building (constitution)
            is reinvigorated? Doesn’t it have to be invigorated before its reinvigorated?

            I have three questions:

            (1) can you give me the source of the analysts who agree with your assessment? I want to see them talking about the party. Not the gov and not the prez
            (2) have they discovered water and oxygen in your planet ? 😀
            (3) who is the equivalent of Fanti Ghana in your party? Somebody who believes in the mission of his party and is, um, human? Every true believer of the PFDJ that I know is just nasty and/or borderline sociopath. Present company excluded, of course.

            Saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            You have reverted to hyperbolizing everything . Is that the default mode these days?

            You will find my answers to some of the questions you are posing, hopefully, soon.

            But, I am going to ask you to do me a big favor. Don’t ever, EVER, bring the name of the person whose equivalent in my party you are asking about. Never, ever again!

            Not only I won’t communicate exchanges with you, you also stand the risk of being DISOWNED!

          • saay7

            Gheteb the Cuziest:)

            Are you talking about Fanti Ghana? Are you saying that if I mention the Fantiness of the Great Fanti Ghana you are going to stop communicating with me, nay, even disown me for me paying tribute to the awesomeness that is Fanti Ghana? The same Fanti Ghana who is Awatista of the Year for the year I forget and all the years he would have won if we had the contest every year which, come to think of it, should be called The Fanti? That Fanti? Surely, you can’t possibly mean the same Fanti. I mean is there anyone, anywhere that has anything but the warmest feeling for the great Fanti? Assuming they are capable of being heated?

            Let me ask the rest of the Awatistas. Help me out guys: is there anyone, in this Forum, who doesn’t love and respect Fanti Ghana? When you get your answer, cuz, you will get a sense of how your claim that PFDJ is beloved is, like all things you believe in, upside down.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            I don’t know why you have to go gaga over on a simple request I have made. Heap and pile on all the panegyrics in the world on the person at hand, but that ain’t what I am saying.

            All I have asked you is to never, EVER, bring this person or even mention this person in your communication with me. I am requesting that you stop mentioning or bringing this person when you an I are engaged in exchanges.

            I mean, you and I, only!

            You say or write about this person, you can write tomes of encomiums praising him to high heavens. Just don’t bring him in our exchange. Do you read me now?

            Gotta to remember that some of us can’t be easily taken for a ride.

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. I am one that doe not have love and respect for Fanti Ghana. Reasons as to why I do not wish to go into as I do not believe that they are fruitful in terms of moving forward. Seems that we are spending way too much time on past events rather than focusing on the reality now at hand and moving forward. I too find myself, getting unnecessarily and wrongly getting caught up in this regard. I have openly expresses my disappointment with those in the opposition who have sympathized with the TPLF over the past 20 years and bashed the PFDJ and everything Eritrean in the process. On the other side, I am not a supporter of PIA nor the PFDJ in current form though, I am totally convinced that their sudden removal would be disastrous for Eritrea. For me, in regards to PIA (character and wrongdoings aside), it is simply wrong for any country to be under the leadership of one person for 27 years; this is the epitome of the African Strongman complex. How we move forward from this point on is more important that unnecessarily getting into the blame game on past events. Not that we forget the negatives and the pluses of PIA and the PFDJ, but we have to move on. In this regard, I really wish that we that articles and topics for discussion could be orientated to NOW and the FUTURE and not the PAST.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Gheteb,
            As you might guess, I avoid engaging with you for obvious reasons–you are generous with criminalizing blamesless Eritrea (you use opposition as a catch-all phrase).

            Now, would you use a small brush and acknowledge there are Eritreans who are as patriotic as anyone you can mention and love their country? Or, you believe that anyone who opposes the PFDJ, in whichever way they see fit, are also written off? Just a simple answer, please, and not a lengthy analysis.

            Thank you

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Saleh Johar,

            Yeah, the reason you ” avoid engaging with” me is not lost to me at all. The feeling is mutual as I even go farther not to enter into any exchanges with you. Don’t get me wrong here. I do it not for any other reason, but only because I do NOT want to aggravate you. That is all.

            No, I take exception to your depiction of my stand vis-à-vis The Eritrean Opposition Group that I am using a “big brush” and ” criminalizing blamesless Eritrea (you use opposition as a catch-all phrase).

            I am very specific on this issue. Those I condemn vehemently are:

            (1) Those who are hogtied to the Weyanes and are working closely with it.

            (2) Those who have been working with the Weyanes remotely.

            Sure, there are many patriotic Eritreans who oppose the PFDJ without succumbing to the urges of aligning themselves with the Weyanes.

            Since 1999, I have campaigned, with my limited ability, IMPLORING those Opposition Groups to distance themselves from the TPLF led Ethiopian regime but to no avail as my pleas fell flatly on deaf ears.

            I have stated that their political move was SELF-EMASCULATING.

            Recently, I urged the Medrekh folks not to set their feet in the Weyane led Ethiopia, but, alas, they could NOT resist the temptation of associating themselves with the Weyanes.

            Again, to answer your question, sure, there are MANY patriotic Eritreans who oppose the PFDJ.

            Thank you!

          • Saleh Johar

            Thanks, Gheteb,
            Now for my next appeal to you. Please remember that many people are aggravated when you use your wide brush. Please remember to be specific and not to aggravate others when you know your target well.

          • Ismail AA

            Hayak Allah SJ,

            I think no self-respecting member of the opposition would pay attention to, or care about, what regime zealots say or write. What they say has been heard from the mouth of their demi-god.

            So, I suggest that you might need not waste your time educating those people because they are not educatable. They have exchanged their souls and conscience for what the demi-god wants. If one morning in future the demi-god would say the Woyanes and whoever linked to them are brothers and sisters, they would repeat the same. That has been the case, and will remain the same.

        • saay7

          Haha Ali Salim:

          I really like the fact that you said “any other ideas” as if you shared any 😃

          Since you consider the opposition (except the one that subscribes to your version, whatever its iteration) is a wasteland, why give them advice or acknowledge them? Shouldn’t you be advancing yours and making the case for it (again, whatever the “it” happens to be this week?)

          Your version of opposition doesn’t care how change came about which makes Eritrea so special that even its opposition doesn’t make accountability of the ruling party an agenda item. Just board the train (we will figure out where it’s going after our “beloved president” tells us where to.)

          The demands of the opposition (the non-confused opposition) remain the same: an Eritrea where sovereignty is held by the citizen, where civil liberties are respected and where the people have the right to hire and fire the government on the basis of a “Final and Binding” document (a constitution) that all citizens call their own.

          After we are done piling our insults on Weyane, remember they drafted the constitution that is making all the armed rebels lay their weapons down, and creating political space for people like the PM. So you know what they say about the ኣድጊ and በቕሊ right?

          saay

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Ali Salim, I’m still wondering whether this is the Ali Salim we knew from this site. If so, this must be your REAL U-turn:-)

      • Abi

        Hi Abraham
        Glad to see you actively participating in the fast paced debate. I just can’t keep up with the debates. I gave up already.
        Anyway, Ali Salim will never make a U-Turn. Never!
        He stays on the “Round About ” driving in a non ending circle.

      • ALI-S

        Selam Abraham and Abi,

        I’m trying to get SJG to erase all previous history of my posts from the archives. May be you can help to make it easy for the transformation into a new page.

        This time I don’t think it is my fault. I won’t be able to catch up with a U-Turn when things on the ground have made an O-Turn.

        Unless someone is totally in cloud 9, only those who will eventually break down can manage without Turns. We are excited about Ethio and Eri themselves making a U-Turn which I think is a good idea.

        • Saleh Johar

          Ahlam Ali,
          After taking all the beating on your behalf, and you went silent instead of owning your “mischief”, not even to clear the matter for which I was wrongly being attacked. You know why? Because protecting the identity of anyone who deals with awate.com is sacrosanct and I chose to take the beating instead of announcing your name and picture and getting all the Tsefaarat off my back. Now you want SGJ to commit a crime of tampering with archived materials? Not even the biggest U-Turn can get me there. What? You think I am a PFDJ? Hashaa.

          Welcome back.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Ali-S,

          SJG whether erases you or not has no difference for he is such a toothless guy, as the cults like to label all who differ with them. The main problem to think about is, who will erase you from the full tooth guy in Asmara who combats stones when they stumble him? I think you are not from those who have blankcheque.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, all.
    The peace agreement has for both of the countries hundred and one times more values than the EAL starting to fly between the two countries. It was only 20 years ago that one third of the crews were Eritrean origins.

    The peace agreement as we and the whole world have witnessed on Sunday the 8th of July can not expressed by words. It can be expressed only by asmarino people and what we have experienced in Asmara. The welcome for the PM has shown what peace mean for the two peoples.

    I see the clips again and again. I am deeply touched. I am proud of the asmarino people to what they did on Sunday. It can be expressed only by ”goosebumps”. I thought i was done with Eritrea. They proved me wrong. Yes we are two different countries with so much love to one another.

    What the peace agreement brings about
    1) Happiness to the peoples
    2) 200,000 soldiers is a burden for Eritrea and comparatively 200,000 soldiers is decoration for Ethiopia. We have seen the burden and its consequences both social and economical on both sides but worse on Eritrea due to its population.
    a) No more indefinite military service thus no mass exodus.
    b) Young men finish their school at home, not in Sawa. Eritreans youngsters will have the same normal life cycle like the rest of the world.
    3) The lift of the sanction on Eritrea (it must be number one)
    3) The frozen economy of the ports and the refinery too to be active and makes Eritrea jump in double digits growth.
    4) A peaceful life for the peoples around the border and the separated families both around the borders and those citizens must go back to their original country due to the war 1998 (thousands and thousands of them never met for the last 20 years)
    5) The job opportunity which is going to be created due what the peace brings more investment opportunity. ( I think Eritreans start investing in Eritrea too, if not that soon then investing in Ethiopia is no more a shame. We are not enemy any more)
    6) The cooperation in the tourism between Ethiopia and Eritrea (this one is a killer)
    7) The free movements of people for what ever reason
    ..
    8) A lesson to learn from the past and never repeat the same mistake. Instead of Sabotaging one another we can achieve more by cooperation.
    Oh I forgot, No more arming and entertaining the oppositions of the other side. Instead work together so that oppositions do what ever their supposed to do in their own country.

  • Selam All,

    The means to travel may be available, but what about the right to travel? If eal is to carry only eritrean high official for their weekend visit to addis, or provide transport for their travel to middle eastern countries whenever needed, and ordinary eritreans cannot travel freely, eal may incur huge losses and it will be forced to cancel or minimize the frequency of flights between the two cities. Rapid changes towards a country with free citizens is a must, and it can not wait anymore.

    • Acria

      Selam Horizon,
      Great observation. As long as there is forced military conscription, there will not be the ideal free travel to Addis. I believe the PFDG will limit travel based on age and other restrictions. In order for this newfound love to take its roots, it is important that the PFDG trust its own people and establish democratic reforms immediately. At this point in our history, there is no need for war and neither is the need for forced military conscription. PFDG need to change a 180-degrees stance and start reforming the country immediately; otherwise, the status que will remain the same. Most of the PFDG members are getting older; and, before it is too late, they need to leave ‘senay gibree’ as a token of their appreciation for the many martyrs of Eritrea. They also need to transition power to the civilian population. I think they have had enough power. They need to say, ” We’ve tried what we thought was good for the country but we were wrong and we would like to apologize for the many lives that we have caused misery “. It takes courage to say sorry. That is the only way we can make peace with ourselves and the rest of the world.

  • Paulos

    Selam AT,

    Many thanks for the info. As far as Eritreans are concerned, the immediate resumption of flights doesn’t mean much for they are not allowed to leave the country. But on the other hand, if the visit from Addis or any part of Ethiopia for that matter is for pleasure purposes, it is good for hotels, restaurants including those who are in the Taxi business as well.

    Again, even for this basic thing to come to fruition, there ought to be a guarantee from the government whereby their safety is warranted as in Rule Of Law reigns as opposed to the safety of any visitor from Ethipia is under the mercy of a corrupted Colonel or any higher up in the ladder as in ኣጽንሓለይ።

    • Peace!

      Hi Paulosay,

      Indeed a good news for family reunion, and eventually for Business and tourism. Are people going to use $ or local currency?

      Peace!

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Paulosay.
        They use local currency. Eg Nakf in Eritrea, Birr in Ethiopia, Dollar in USA.

        In Badme one can use both Naqfa and Birr. I’m just kidding.

      • Paulos

        Selam Abi Seb,

        That is a great question. Hard to say to be honest. You’re the Economist and I gather you have a better idea.

        • Mez

          Dear Paulos,

          For now, to start with, I think it will be hard currency.

          Thanks

          • Paulos

            Selam Mez,

            It would be great if you could expand on that so that we can have a better idea why that will be the case. I am grateful for all your inputs of a substance to the Forum.

          • Mez

            Dear Paulos, Nitricc, Haile, and all:

            As Nitricc alluded we need a fresh start, and that in a professional way. For our newly declared peace–the motto: two nation, one people–to take root (and be perpetual) two more processes are of existential relevance a) honesty, b) transparency; these two needs more time to sink-in.

            1) “two nations” means they have their inviolable monetary, and other related policies. That has to be respected as it is. Don’t touch or scratch it–just respect it as it is. We are at ground zero.
            1.1) in the comming weeks, probably, the specialized institutions (like central bank, customs autority,…) may want to create a “international foreign currency OR gold hedged” clearing mechanisms for Nakfa-Birr exchange.
            2) “one people” may will entail just a governmental I’d issued by an administrative governmental office (like kebele-id). That will have to be sufficient to travel within the boundaries of the two nations.

            This was my thought, for the sake of not disturbing the newly experienced PEACE.

            Thanks

          • Amde

            Selam Mez,

            Can I continue to be the proverbial squeaky wheel and continue to urge you to develop your thoughts into an article? 🙂

            Nitricc is spot-on. This thing needs care and deliberation. The haste makes me nervous to be honest.

            Amde

          • Haile S.

            Selam Mez,
            Do you mean hard as hard as rock salt? 🙂 Info for the young generation like Paul 🙂 For centuries rock salt ኣሞሌ ጨው was the hard currency of Abyssinia. Then gradually accompanied and replaced by Maria Theresa’s coins.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Haile S.
            ከመይ ቀኒካ ምስዚ ዝቀነየ ደሮናን ሆቦብላን. Indeed, in some parts remote parts of Ethiopia people trust Maria Theresa to the paper notes. Until mid-1970 my contact told me people in Djibouti still traded in MT coins. As to salt, it was rare commodity and served as medium of exchange for long time. People in remote areas still measure the state of prices in terms of price of salt bars.

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Ismail,
            Good to see you back yesterday. ኣበይ ጠፊኡ ኢለ ነይረ። ሰንበት ግና ኣብቲ መዓልቦ ነፈርቲ ኣስመራ ብዙሓት ሰያባት ተሰሪዖም ምስ ርኣኹ፣ ኣንታ እስማዒል ኣብ መንጉኦም ዶ’ይህሉ እኳ። ሎሚ ቅነ ዘይከውን ትብሎ እዩ ዝኸውን ዘሎ ኢለ ነይረ 🙂 🙂 ።
            ደሮናን ሆቦብላን ሎሚቅነ ሃንጥሸው ከብለና፡ ክስርስረናን ንብዓት ቁጽርጽር ከብለናን ቀንዩ። ናይ ምድንፋቕ ይኹን allergy።
            ሓደ መዓልቲ ዝበልካዮ፡ ዝተተምነኻዮ ዘኪረ። ኣብ ኩላትና ዝተኣከብናሉ ክትውዕን፡ ሻሂ ክንሰቲ። መን ይፈልጥ ኣብ ቀረባ ይትግበር ይኸውን። ኢንሻላህ! እዚ ቅዱስ ገብርኤል ንጻድቃን ተራእዩ ናይ ጽቡቕ መሪሕዎም እዩ እሞ፣ ሎሚ ኸኣ ናሓጢኣን ይርኣዮምን ናብ ቅንዕና ይመርሖምን ይኸውን።

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ሃይለ፣

            ኣንታ ሃይለ ሓወይ፣ እንታይ በዲለካ። ቀረባ ናይ ቁሸትን ከተማን ትምህርቲ ቤትን ኣሕዋተይን ኣዕሩኽተይ ናይ ንጉስ ወጽዓን ሕገ ኣልባውነትን ኣጋፈርቲ ኮይኖም ላዕልን ታሕትን ክብሉ ክዕዘብን ክጉህን ብምውዓለይ ስለ ዝበኾርኩስ ናብ እዩ ዝኸውን ኢልካ ጠርጢርካ። በል እስከ ይቅረ ኢለ ክሓልፍ።

            ንምዃኑ ሃይለ ለባማትሲ ካልእ እንተጸገሞም ምኸሪ ምልጋስ ኣይበቁን ከም ዝበሃል፡ ነዞም ብክቱር ጭደራ ምእንቲ ከም እንኮ መራሒን፣ ሓሳቢን፣ ረኣይን፡ ሰማዕን፣ ቀታልን፣ መሓርን ገሮም ዝተቀበልዎ ፍጥረት ንምስናይ ሓመድ ክጽሕትሩ መረት ደሮና ዝኸድንዋ ዘለዉ ኣሕዋትን ኣሓትን ጽባሕ ከም ኣመሉ ክቡር ፕረዚደንት ሓሳብ እንተይሩ እንታይ ክገብሩ ከምዝክእሉ እስከ ምኽሪ ለግስ።
            ቀደም ዛንታ ብሂል ነይሩ። ሓደ ተረገም ሽማግለ ዓዲ ጽንዓት ምርዕዋት ኣንስት ዓዲ ንምፍላጥ ክጥዕሞ ከሎ ኣብ መገዲ ኮፍ ኢሉ ዕትሮ ማይ ተሰኪመን ክምለሳ ከለዋ ሓንቲ ሕቶ ይሓተን ነይሩ ይበሃል።

            ሓደ መዓልቲ ሓንቲ ብቁንጅነኣ ትምካሕ ሰበይቲ ጠጠው ኣቢሉ ዛጓለይ ሰበይቲ መን ኢኪ ይብላ። ንሳ ከኣ ኣኽቢራ ሽም ሰብኣያ ትነግሮ። ክላ እዚ ኩሉ ቁንጅና ሕዝከስ ነዚ ሕማቕ ዘይረብሕ ተመርዒኪ። ክንደይ እንድዮም ዝምነዩኺ። ኻል እንተ ተረፈስ ኣነዃ ምትመርዓውኩኪ በልዋ። ብዓልቲ ግርሂ ንምሸቱ ሰብኣይ ኣብ መሕረስ ውዒሉ ምስ ኣተወ ጠባይ ቀይራ ጸንሓቶ። ማይ የለ እኽሊ የለ። ገሪሙምው እንታይ ደኣ ተረኽበ ምስ በላ ባዕልካ ትፈልጥ። ቀዲሓካ ሰተ።

            ሓደ ክልተ ምስ ተማህለ ሰበይቲ ገይራቶ ዘይጥፈልጥ ክትዳፈር ጀመርት። ክላ ኣነዃ ሰብኣይ ኢለ ምሳኻ ይቅመጥ ኣለኹ በለቶ። ናይ ሰብኣይ ኒሕ ዘይተርፍ ኢዱ ወስ ምስ ኣበለ ሰበይቲ መዓጠኣ ሒዛ ሕጂ ትፈትሓኒ እላ ድርቕ በለት። ሰብኣይ ይፈትዋ ስለ ዝነበረ ኣንጊሁ ንሽማግለ ዓዲ ርዳኡኒ ሓዳረይ ፋሕ ክብለኒ ደልዩ በለ። ሰበይተይ መዓዱለይ ለምኑለይ በለ። ጓልያቱ ከኣ ዕጭ ወደየት።

            ኣብ መጭረሻ ሽማግለ ዓዲ እሞ ጉዳይኪ ክንሰምዕ ኣብ ባይቶ ምጺ በልዋ። መኻሪውን ከም ሰቡ መጸ። ሰበይቲ ኣቕበጸት። ወዮ ተንኮለይና ሽማግለ ብድድ ኢሉ ኣንቲ ጓለይ ገደፊ ሓዳርኪ ይሕሸኪ በላ። ምስ ኣቅበጸት ወእ ኣንቲ ጓለይ እቶም ክንምርዓወኪ ዝበሉኺ ሓሳቦም ቀይሮም እንተ ጠለሙክስ እንታይ ትገብሪ፡ ብዘይ ሓዳርን ወላድን ክትነብሪ በላ። ሰበይቲ ብኽያት ንብኽያት ኮይና ምስ ሰብኣያ ንገዛ ተመልሰት ይበሃል። ተንኮለይና ሽማግለ ክምዚ ገይሩ ዝወለዖ ሓዊ ኣጥፊኦ ይበሃል። ሕጂ ከኣ ፕረዚደንት ሓሳቡ እንተቀየረ (ከም ኣመሉ) እንታይ ክኸውንዩ። ከምጥፈልጦ እንተ ዘይተገዲዱ ሓዊ ክውልዕ እምበር ከጥፍእ ሰለ ዘይረእኩ እየ ዝሓተካ ዘለኩ ሃይለ ዓርከይ።

          • Haile S.

            እስማዒል ሓወይ፡
            እንቋዕ በል ተዃተዀኩኻ። ከመይ ዝበለ ዋዛ ምስ ቁምነገር ኣምጺእካ ርኤኻ። ግና ተዳሊኻ ጽናሕ፡ ጽገሬዳን ኣብርሀትን ክመጻኻ እየን።
            ኣማስያይ ደሓር ክምለስ እየ።

          • Haile S.

            Good morning (your time) Ismail,

            እስማዒል ሓወይ ሓቅኻ ሓቅኻ
            ሎሚ መዓልቲ እንቋዕ ተንከፍኩኻ
            Spot-on ይብልዎ ዘእንግልጣር* መልእኽትኻ
            እዚ ዝስዕብ ንዝምልከቶ’ምበር ኣይኮነን ን’ኣኻ

            ወንጀል ኣይኮነን ምስማዕ ንህዝብኻ
            ወንጀል ኣይኮነን ምድጋፍ ምሕኩልትኻ
            ምትግባር ሓባራዊ ውሳነ ምስ ጎንኻ
            ወንጀል’ዩ ምስማዕ ንውልቅኻ
            ወንጀል’ዩ ተግባር ናይ በይንኻ
            ክትውንኖ ግብሪ ሕድጊ ንባዕልኻ
            ህዝብኻ ዘይኣኸሉ ምቑጻር፡ ጌጋኻ
            ኩሎም ዕዉራት ደለይቲ ኣዒንትኻ
            ኩሉ ጊዜ ዓቢ ንቑሕ ጥራይ ንስኻ
            * the English

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Haile S,
            May your pen remain ever-sharp for eternity. I see rare thing happening. Language has submitted to your pen and chose you to educate us on morality of justice. Thank you.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Ismail AA. I remember even up to the time of the Derg in most of Tigray, Red Sea salt was a valuable exchange commodity, not so much as a food condiment but as a treatment for iodine deficiency disorders such as goiter

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            ስሬና ልዕሊ ሕምብርትና ክንዕጠቕ ዸሚርና፣ ዕላልና ብዛዕባ ደምብዝሕን ሽኮርን ኮይኑ፣ ክልተ ጨጉሪ ኣብቈልናስ young ትብለና’ለኻ? በልስኪ thank you for the much needed moral boost.

            Certainly, money doesn’t have an inherent value for it is just a legal tender. The good old ጨው in that sense doesn’t stand out any lesser if you will. And of course, way before the medical experts shun ጨው as one of the culprits of hypertension, the Good Book said, ጨው ናይ’ዛ ዓለም ኩኑ።

            P.S. Been meaning to comment on the connection between Limestone, Rain and the Kidney but the honeymoon euphoria took us by surprise. Will try when it subsides.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Mez; It should be hard currency. Start this thing the right way. The last time we screwed around with local and hard currency, we ended up with full scale war. I do think at one point, if PMAA is around which he will that there will be one currency between Eritrea and Ethiopia. I am just happy that the Ethiopians are entering Eritrea through Dreamliner over TPLF’s tank with semere-Andom riding in it. we would have thought Asmara SI-DEMER before Mekele? The tigryans are saying ” Khat and Gomen aydemerim” God help you PMAA.

      • Blink

        Dear peace
        They are going to use USD just as any Sudanese or Kenyan . It is official that Eritrea as a country is going to make business with its old colonial power. The exchange rate is already started . People who live in Ethiopia has to adopt to the new currency values.