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Eritrea’s Bittersweet Memory of A 30-Year Struggle

Eritrea has bittersweet memory of a 30-year struggle that was eked out by the botched 30-years of Governance. 

In 1935, little did Italy know that its decision to invade Ethiopia would lead to a World War II. Little did Italy know, too, that the Eritrean Askaris it hired to do the invasion of Ethiopia would also abandon it at the first opportune moment. In fact, that’s exactly what the Askaris did when Great Britain and its allies dropped leaflets informing them that King Haile Selassie was back in power and the Askaris should switch their allegiance. Not only the WWII started in 1935, but also 5 years later, the defeat of Italy by the British, Free French, and Belgian Forces heralded the winning and reversing the turn of events in favor of the Allies resulting in the liberation of Eritrea and Ethiopia from the yoke and arrow of fascism.

King Haile Selassie of Ethiopia missed a huge opportunity to correct the trajectory of Ethiopia’s historical path by becoming a leader who had the power to introduce rudimentary democratic projects. What he did instead was annex Eritrea by the classic methods of divide and conquer. Alas, the Ethiopian army that deposed the King, too, missed its opportunity by choosing violent confrontation on the question of Eritrea instead of reconciliation. After all, Eritrean Fronts, and Tigray Fronts, and the Ethiopian Derg under Mengistu Hailemariam were all in the same political and ideological alleyway. The latter may have left Asmara University open, but it was emptying Eritrea of its youth who were supposed to attend it.

The aftermath of WWII brought forth clear winners: the USA and its Western allies, save the Nazi Germany as the leader of the power axis, on whose side were Japan and Italy. The USA and its allies were becoming confident of their political and military supremacy to a point that the surrendering countries like Germany and Japan became beneficiaries of such confidence. The Marshall Plan would bring back these two defeated countries from the ashes of the war to become two exemplary countries who would put their economic house in order. Meanwhile, the Cold War was afoot in which The Soviet Union and the USA became ideological rivals to a point of wanting to dominate the world to their sphere of influence. Out of this intense competition came technological advancement.

In 1961, The Soviet Union became the first country to send a man – Yuri Gagarin – to space orbiting the earth. Thus, the race to space had begun in earnest between the Soviet Union and the United States. In the immediate aftermath of WWII, the influence of the U.S. and its allies in the world had firm grounding, whatever the U.S. says goes and so it went. Thus, Eritrea, it was determined, couldn’t be granted its independence as a former colony of the then firmly defeated Fascist Italy. For some indecipherable political reasoning, the two former Italian colonies, Libya and Somalia, were granted their independence but not Eritrea. Thus, in 1961, in defiance to such a determination, in the corridors of the Red Sea, Eritreans started a revolutionary war of independence that took thirty long years to accomplish. However, another thirty years has passed since Eritrea’s independence, and the country continues to be in one war footing after another to this day. This enigmatic Red Sea nation has a very complex history, history that requires a great deal of historical and contextual synthesis to comprehend it thoroughly.

Therefore, instead of a lament, how about resorting to the world of optics; carefully selecting two video clips that can help in the much-needed understanding of the how and why The Horn of Africa continues to dive into an endless turmoil after turmoil? Granted, before the bittersweet memory of the thirty years could be savored, the memory of the botched subsequent thirty years of poor governance is replacing it. Fighting against such fresh memory is a challenge that continues to eke out the worse in Eritreans. A little highlight about the clips.

The first: A French politician, a minister, a traveler, a writer, and a member of the French academy, Jean Francois Deniau (JFD) lends a much-needed foreign voice to Eritrea’s cause for independence. This rigorously researched documentary deals with an expansive history and politics of the region and the role Europeans played in the process of problematizing it to suit their post-colonial ambitions. More importantly though, the documentary contains rare footage and historical images; interviews of revolutionary combatants of all generations including that of the pioneers of the struggle; civilians who enlisted to become part of Italy’s colonial ambitions when it invaded Ethiopia. They give firsthand account interviews; many had already reached the octogenarian phase by the time of the interviewing. In this documentary the viewer will hear the rare voice of civilian Eritrean mothers and fathers whose sons and daughters went on to fight for independence. Some voices of dignitaries are also included in this documentary. It’s a massively important historical and political voice that gives an expansively complex picture of Eritrea and The Horn of Africa.

The second: This comprises a two-part interview, a direct account of the then young combatant (Lingo) who joined the protracted struggle by putting his life and his youth on the line to the wheel of the revolution at a very critical junction in the journey toward independence of Eritrea. He becomes the voice, the narrator of Eritrea’s struggle, a bridge between the people of Eritrea in Diaspora and those who are fighting in the fields of Eritrea to bring independence. His eloquence captivates Eritreans in a rapturous fixation in Bologna, in the United States, in the world. So, get a tea in a kettle, coffee, or whatever drink you fancy, sit back, and plan to spend three hours of your time to watch these video clips, your assumptions will be challenged, any assumptions you may have had before about Eritrea, the region, and the Superpowers. You won’t be disappointed.

Links:
1-The Documentary
2-The Interviews–PART 1   and   PART 2

About Beyan Negash

Activist, a writer and a doctoral candidate (ABD) in Language, Literacy, and Culture at New Mexico State University (NMSU). Beyan holds a bachelor of arts in English and a master of arts in TESOL from NMSU as well as a bachelor of arts in Anthropology from UCLA. His research interests are on colonial discourse and post-colonial theories and their hegemonic impact on patriarchy, cultural identity, literacy development, language acquisition as well as curriculum & citizenship. The geopolitics of the Horn of Africa interests Beyan greatly. His writings tend to focus on Eritrea and Ethiopia. Beyan has been writing opinion pieces at awate.com since its inception (1 September 2001).

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  • MERIR

    This is the real take. I know there are people on here who are so so but he is telling you.

    https://youtu.be/w9-XVQlVDZA

    • Abi

      General
      What is it all about? I suspect it is more than drunk sheep fighting .

      • haileTG

        Hey Guad Abi,

        Today I heard that Tigrayan artist Isaias Tadesse (few months back made a news for speaking up to power during his prize receipt speech) has joined the TDF to fight. Ye Erswo asteyayet bezih guday min ymeslal?

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          From stage theater to war theater in record breaking speed!!!

  • iSem

    Hi All

    Insightless Interview by a Skilless Journalist with Incoherent Guest
    Eristat hosted by Henock Tekle, interviewed someone he dubbed as a special guest: Tsigeroman, a former mistress of Gen. Philipos.
    When I listened to the introduction, I thought I would glean some insight into the Philipos as an instrument of repression and despotism.
    Though we can discern the relationship, Henok does not ask the question point-blank, and it is passed as friendship, but the word “Amanit” gives it away. Amanita is the code word for a mistress (wushuma). I was disappointed that Philipos was painted as a compassionate, humble, hardworking person who helps his subordinates with their problems. This is possible as humans are complex, they can be kind and generous, and the next hour, they slice the throats of their best friends. But EriEsat’s goal as an opposition outlet is to expose the instruments of repression and personalities and their implements.
    Henok asked the “special guest” about the Adi Abeyto prison; though the question was unfocused, the context of Eritrea alerts one that he was asking her if she was privy to what goes on inside the prison during her whispers with Philipos. She went on to narrate with excruciating detail her encounters. But the journalist could not finesse, intervene, probe to steer the conversation to glean the correct answers that could inform us of what goes on in this infamous place that has tortured and killed hundreds of innocent Eritreans
    The journalist is skilless, the guest meandering and ineloquent and who lost. Everything in this conversation was a waste of time and words, and we Eritreans did not gain any insight, and it turned into a tabloid. we are not interested in Philipos dalliance, but in his actions against the Eritrean people
    The intention of TsigeRoman might have been noble, and I commend her for speaking about her relationship with Philopus, but the paucity of interviewing skills is unpalatable.

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Hi iSem,
      My take on those interviews [if you dare to call them that] was:
      1. She inflates herself but not much substances. For God sake, her words are like a Hollywood teenager, reminds me the “Clueless” move…… replace “Groupona” with “as if”
      2. She was incoherent
      3. She still seems in love with NeQez [aka Filipos]
      4. Henok was so respectful but it should be ንዘናጋዕ rather than interview
      Her intention seems honest though. She had a lot of regrets but should couldn’t express them well.

    • Brhan

      Hello iSem,
      Also I have not seen all of the episodes, my first impression was that there is something wrong in this interview. I believe EriSat is still in the process of building itself as a credible news source and If I am not mistaken its staff mostly volunteers and I hope that you also provided this positive criticism directly to them because it will help them to improve in the future. As far as I know Henok does most of the interviews and I believe you agree with me that you need different kinds of interviewers to different kinds of interviewee. I liked the interview he did with General Tekeste Haile about the later being called from Tigray and he was assisted by Antonio Tesfay.
      And TsigeRoman might do another interview with other channels and may be at that time her interviewer might dig deeper.

    • haileTG

      Merhaba iSem,

      It was for sure a different kind of interview, remember she is not a politician, that may have had some influence in the overall context and style – just my 2-cents. Beyond that aspect, the interview brought us three interesting events that warrant further investigation:

      1 – Assab can only be reached from Addis on a separate ticket, i.e. two tickets are needed – ASM to ADD and ADD to ASA. It is not possible to fly ASM – ASA. Buses are also not available even if they appear to be working the route and actually don’t when asked.

      2 – The issue of Abraham Isaias Afewerki’s ascendancy to power was thwarted in the Saudi signing ceremony of the peace deal (this happened around September 20, 2018). Following that, the attack on Gen. Ephrem took place (this happened on Dec. 19, 2018). She seems to believe the two issues are connected.

      3 – She came to believe from those around her (ranking military officers) that the Eritrean issue will be resolved together with the Tigray issue.

      These are excellent lead points for brother Henock to follow up his investigative journalism by bringing others who can expand on and shed some light.

    • saay7

      Selamat iSem:

      You are something else: an angry iSem is something to behold. I tried to watch it but by the time I got to it, (a) EriSat must have changed the YouTube setting to optimize ad revenue” because an ad was playing every two minutes and (b) the public comments (like EriTV YouTube setting of Isaias interviews) was disabled. Our peeps must have been particularly brutal.

      Don’t be mean iSem. Embuae. Blame enda NNNN: they wasted 30 years of young Eritrea’s life and they couldn’t allow to, by now, allow us to have learned from our mistakes and perfect our craft, including entertainment interviews

      Anyway I have talked to people who are close to the interviewer and I am told the most generous way for describing it was “to encourage future whistleblowers”, even though this particular one, from what I saw, was light on the whistle and heavy on the blow. Of hot air. But then I only watched a tiny fraction of a 3-part interview. My unsolicited advice to Henock: listen to Haregu and Sishay of Erena and take notes on proper way to interview: have a list of questions, interrupt irrelevant Hikaya, and follow up.

      .

      saay

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatista, I hope you are enjoying your weekend
    G7 calls for immediate cessation of hostilities in Tigray region
    https://www.reuters.com/article/g7-summit-ethiopia-idAFS8N2LT056
    “We call for an immediate cessation of hostilities, unimpeded humanitarian access to all areas and the immediate withdrawal of Eritrean forces.”
    The West is begging but A.Ahmed Ali once has said he excels in begging, I do not know if he means in the giving side or receiving side?

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Brhan nebsi,
      Little dictator can’t answer your simple question, till he received the order.
      This guy is simply a messenger. The question is, who is he getting the order from?
      Hint: not from the beautiful office of Adi-Halo

      • Brhan

        Hi MM nebsi,
        A.Ahmed Ali is in trap between Adi-Halo and Adi White house? It seems he will listen to the later soon.

    • Abi

      Brhan
      Definitely on the giving side. You remember he was begging the disgraced Tplf thugs to come to the negotiation table? He stretched his giving hand as far as Mekele only to see his army attacked by the parasitic thugs.
      There should be no negotiation with the remaining handful thugs.
      The terrorist thugs should be wiped out once and for all.

      • Brhan

        Abi,
        The issue is between the US and A. Ahmed Ali who told us they have become like flour. Do you see the US, now joined by G 7 stretching their hands as far as 4 Kilo demanding Eritrean troops to be out of Ethiopia, as a joke?

        • Abi

          Brhan
          Joke or no joke, the G7 will demand nothing special . They will definitely stretch their helping hands to get things done. Things like the upcoming elections and delivering humanitarian support to the Tplf damaged Tigray region.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            So S.Res.97 is joke or no joke?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            This is no joke, specially for Eritrea. This time, I think IA is going to take Eritrea to grave with him.

            The UN humanitarian undersecretary said “Eritrea is blocking aid and its using hunger as a weapon”.

            No one will stand for it and the last thing the world wants to see is the repeat of 1984 famine.

            IA has to pack everything and leave abs leave right now.

  • haileTG
    • said

      Selam Haile TG .Thank for link ,
      Remembering Aaron Berhane ,the sudden passing from Covid-19 on May 1st was a devastating blow to PEN’s Writers-in-Exile group, which he chaired. Aaron, 51, was an award-winning journalist and a co-founder of Eritrea’s first independent newspaper, which was shut down with other media in 2001 by the country’s oppressive regime. Journalists were jailed, some died in custody.

      https://pencanada.ca/blog/remembering-aaron-berhane/

  • said

    Greetings ,

    TPLF back to their 1976 Manifesto? Establish the Republic of Tigray, If only they knew. TPLF may lament what could have been and 45 years after back to square one ?

    Buckminister Fuller was that “you never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

    I’ve wrote a lot about TPLF since its inception including many things critical of PM MZ . In my opinion, He didn’t meet the standards as a role model that was expected from him ? a man who had fought to dislodge Derge ,once in power in Addis ,he lost his simple humanity. There wasn’t anything simple about PM MZ .He was a pragmatic politician, He should have being adhering to his own sense of honor and personal integrity. And have moral clarity, to the sense of duty, to himself and all the people , to his office as a prime ministerial duty . Was He a man with true love for all Ethiopia. Or just his commitment for Tigray . And Ethiopian they ‘re still working at it. There weren’t nearly enough honest politicians, then or now, . Our collective memory of the past is constantly being revised, and not always for the better world for all. And to the detriment of ordinary people and democracy. The future—if there is to be one—will depend on far deeper cooperation occurring within the short period . We are at the crossroads of one of the most serious crises in modern history. We are living history, yet our understanding of the flow of events and war in Tigray since November 4th 2020, is not settled yet and the on going civil war is unprecedented in history,

    I was hoping personal heroes will emerge in our region .The like of Nelson Mandela , Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi , Che Guevarra, and others, in my humble view, they were all worth emulating, all driven by great Ideas ,Equality , Conscience and by their commitments to making a better world for all.

    The Tigranes, mostly Christian peasant farmers, share a common religious heritage with Amhara. For centuries the feudal Tigrean and Amhara royalty vied for control of the country and each looking for power ,a recognition as the legitimate defender of Ethiopian Coptic Christian Orthodoxy.

    Targaryen devoutly Christian rural populations did not setup well with TPLF leadership ,Inspired by Marxist-Leninism, the leadership of the TPLF and with the Marxist EPLF were based on ideological compatibility and to some extent similarity in culture and religion . TPLF and EPLF mostly-shared language and spill over borders, and common history of Ethiopian imperialist victimhood

    TPLF reproducing echoes of the past. which simply emulate Ethiopian monarchy in one way or other ,PM MZ one man show ,like a king at top ,he never believed in independent of courts and independent media. Hollowed state. Viewed by Ethiopian not a force for good.

    The TPLF’s goals had never been clear. Since the establishment of TPLF and in their 1976 Manifesto, only through this struggle that they may be able to secede from Ethiopia and establish the Republic of Tigray.
    PM MZ an has never been known for his political clarity and what does he wanted for Tigray, It serves him to be opaque about where did he really stood on politics and policies in regard Tigray .
    As saying goes What goes around has a nasty little tendency of coming back around again. Yesterday’s scary monster is tomorrow’s Camelot
    TPLF did not appeals to all Ethiopians also equally , Tigrayan sow themselves part of marginalized ethnic group. And not part of multiethnic society, diversity and shared values . First Tigrayan adapted to this new political reality from day one and not as Ethiopian citizen first, what ever that means.? TPLF did not root for rule of law and principles and institutions central to a democracy.
    TPLF ignored any notion of the civic imagination and the ideas, values, justices and institutions that connect it to an ongoing struggle over human rights, equality ,inclusiveness , social, political, and economic rights. That offer more than a glimmer of hope for the future, was not in table . And the abandonment of human rights, democratic institutions. Under such circumstances, while legitimizing and normalizing oppression , brutality and violence , it is crucial to understand how .TPLF reproduced manufactured ignorance, repression, amplified, and intensified .Not a different from past of historical era. an updated version of Ethiopian monarchy politics a history of repression.

    TPLF did not have a concise politics at large .Throughout its history TPLF’s rule was a minority party within Ethiopia ,in controlling the majority of the population in Ethiopia was undemocratic and wrong to start with PM M Zenawi held near-total control over the country of 110 million population ,.The on going land issue as reported .TPLF forcefully annexed historical Amhara lands of Wolkite, Tegede, Humera, Tselemete and Raya-Azebo to Tigray. And I am not familiar with land dispute in regard the annexation of historical Amhara lands including lands annexed from the Afar Region.

    Only through the gun TPLF ruled Ethiopian with iron feast for almost 28 years. And imposing a harsh authoritarian rule. TPLF leaders were ruthless Machiavellian and canny. their repression so remorseless ,it warried its allies in western countries ,TPLF ,like EPLF ,They fought and destroyed rival rebel groups in Tigray . TPLF-dominated coalition government from 1991 .TPLF corrupt , decadent leaders and its defeat ,decline was very dramatic, during their rule . Mekelle thrived, its fast development rapid economic development progress, massive infrastructure investment and stunning economic success was evident , Mekelle it was a Paris of the north neat streets and electricity lines testament to the resources channelled to the TPLF’s stronghold, it was not well shared equally with Ethiopian.
    Ethiopian ethnic groups with irreconcilable differences Ethiopian need to work on coexistence … Ethiopian society stack in civil ethnic war , It is very tragic., A lot of people are getting killed ,they need to move from horrible war ,a bad past to a better future – and that will require great vision and magnanimity.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    Yesterday, a big work of art appeared near the G7 summit location in Cornwell, UK. It was super sized-head sculptures of the leaders of member countries made out trash. The work of art is called by some “the world’s biggest trash heads”!

    If G7 was meant to be the club of the global big economies, then why does it leave out #2 and #6 and replace them with Italy and Canada? Another whites only club +1 (Japan)? It is like Western countries are not in the west geographically (Australia) nor all countries to the west of the prime meridian are Christians (Turkey). So, G7 means the wealthy white economies, I.e regardless of ranking and Western means the same, i.e regardless of geographic location.

    1- USA
    2 – China Italy
    3 – Japan
    4 – Germany
    5 – United Kingdom
    6 – India Canada
    7 – France

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat-TG,

      Your question is a legitimate question. Specially to exclude China the second largest economy from the league of G-7 does not give sense at all. Actually, they should call it the the G-7 of the western world.

      You remember Taiwan had the veto power seat for 22 years in the UN Security Council, from the establishment of the UN organization until 1971. China gained its rightful veto power in 1971. It is not because Taiwan was powerful than China, but it is because the power of the institution was dominated by the whites and they had the power to decide who should be in the seat of the Veto power and other organizational powers. Imagine if USSR wasn’t a formidable military power during and after the Second World War-II, they wouldn’t be part of the veto power club.

      Hailat, just think for a moment, a country with a population of 1.4 billion ( all most 1/4 of the world population) and becoming the second largest economic power is quite extra-ordinary achievement. Actually, it is projected that China will be the economic super power with the United States by 2028. Then and only then the west will consider the issue who will be in the club of G-7 and who shouldn’t or expand the number of the “G”. China is striding very fast economically, technologically, and militarily. It is becoming a formidable competitor to US.

      Now, let me ask you along those lines of argument. Could the US governmental system withstands the shocks that could come from over population, say with the kind of China’s population and maintain the status they have? If yes, prove it for me and by extension to the entire forum? If no, then what kind of adjustment should they make to overcome the failure of their system to feed their population and compete in the world?

      I want to hear from unbiased rational mind who always looks problems as they are, and tries to find alternative solutions. Not wishes but pragmatic solutions, that them in themselves, do posses rooms for adjustment. And not from a club of competition point’s of view, but from realistic solutions for humanity problems. Others could join him also, provided they are abided with the caveats I have listed above.

      Regard

      • haileTG

        Merhaba Aman H,

        Big question! The GDP difference between US and China is about $6 trillion. The interesting part is that China is growing in GDP terms and the US has been shrinking. The trend is set to continue. Now, GDP as a metric is for sure useful for markets, however it also fluctuates in response to change in the fundamentals or sudden shocks such as the Covid-19 pandemic.

        US has problem in its fundamentals as far as national debt and rising labor costs that pushes manufacturing out. China’s problems with its fundamentals is that its market as a manufacturing hub is squeezed by competitions from emergent economies elsewhere in Asia and expanding middle income sector would result in higher labor costs.

        In terms of the governmental system, liberalizing the economy was one of Chinese move which led to the recent decades of economic boom. So, I don’t see what the US could do to the governmental system per se but its political right (republicans) seem to be more oriented towards protectionist policy framework and generally tend to have a confrontational posture in response to the changing tide. For sure China will take over and the US empire will decline (as per the actual trend), very unlikely to change it. The only other option IMO is for the US to try to slow Chinese pace by hitting at the fundamentals – as we see it in relocating its Chinese manufacturing supplies to nearby countries and the 5G saga.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat,

          Could you try to answer if the US system withstand any over population, say for instance the kind population of China? Could they have “population control” in order to avoid shocks that comes out of it? In short, could the US system manage the population of China with their work force are being replaced by robots. To answer my question, take the following factors: the population factor, the system, the technological advancement, and the working forces in need of jobs. Come with how the system could survive without adjustment. If not what kind of adjustment? It is a forward looking question that demand imagining mind. Just to give you a hint, if one man shocked the system, why not exploded population of 1.4 billion? I believe, the US system can not manage that kind of population as it existed currently.

          Regard

          • haileTG

            Hey Aman H,

            Man! I thought you were a Marxist?..haha

            You see, I admit I lack depth in such complex subject, but is there really such a thing called “over population”? Didn’t Marx and Engels critique Malthus on his theory of over population?

            Here is what I found on Marx’ take in response to Malthus:

            Malthus’s theory…is significant in two respects: (1) because he gives brutal expression to the brutal viewpoint of capital; (2) because he asserted the fact of overpopulation in all forms of society. Proved it he has not…he regards overpopulation as being of the same kind in all the different historic phases of economic development; does not understand their specific difference…he transforms the historically distinct relations into an abstract numerical relation, which he has fished purely out of thin air, and which rests neither on natural nor on historical laws…overpopulation is likewise a historically determined relation, in no way determined by abstract numbers or by the absolute limit of the productivity of the necessaries of life, but by limits posited rather by specific conditions of production.… How small do the numbers which meant overpopulation for the Athenians appear to us!

            Marx argues that what level of population is sustainable is dependent on how people procure their subsistence:

            The overpopulation e.g. among hunting peoples, which shows itself in the warfare between the tribes, proves not that the earth could not support their small numbers, but rather that the condition of their reproduction required a great amount of territory for few people . [More on: https://isreview.org/issue/68/are-there-too-many-people%5D

            IMO, Marx has strong arguments, especially considering that over population is pointed at the poor and to the southern hemisphere’s general direction. Chinese communist Party seems to strike the right balance and so far the exception to the rule.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            I had already in mind when I ask such questions that people will jump to Marxism. Second, I read Marxism and Malthusian theory back in the field when we were hungry to know the concept of socialism and communism. But when I was framing my question both men weren’t in my mind. I asked the question from the realities we are living in, based on the explosion of population, the scarcity of resources, the nonfeasance and malfeasance of human action we encountering, and the change of nature at large. The argument back then was based on scientific hypothesis and diagnostic indicators as to how socioeconomic development will evolve. I believe those predictive indicators back then have become the realities of the world we are living now.

            Back to the issue: understand the concept of “overpopulation” in relation to the “resources and human needs” to have a meaningful argument. otherwise there is no meaning for the word. Second overpopulation can not happen uniformly in every part of the world. I know US is not overpopulated now. But my question was simple and direct. Can the current US system be feasible for the Chinese kind of population? If yes how? and if no why not? Answer from pragmatic point of view. The socioeconomic argument of the 18th century will not bring us to a common understanding in answering the current real problems between the haves and have not. The “have not” in the world we live in, is growing exponentially from time to time with the explosion of the world population and the scarcity of resources which demands some adjustment in the socioeconomic relationships. Now, it is your turn buddy.

            Regard

        • Berhe Y

          Dear HaileTG,

          I have not the whole argument

    • Mez

      Hi Haile,
      Brazil & Rusia too were missed in the list.
      Thanks

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ሰላሳ ዓመታት ተጻዒራ
    ህያው ጓል ተወለደት
    ድሕሪ ኩትር መከራ
    —–ቃንዛኦም
    —–ረሲዖም
    ተሓጎሱ ስድራ

    ንውሑዳት ዓመታት
    ብላዕ ወስተ
    ኣብዝሓለፍካዮ ፌስታታት
    ከምዛ ሓዳስ መርዓት

    ሕጻን
    ዓሰርተ ዓመት ከይመለአት
    ብዘይተፈልጠ ቃንዛ
    ክትሳቐ ጀመረት
    ድሕሪ ዕስራን ሓደን ዓመት
    ክልተ የእጋራ ሰንከለት
    ጸላኢኣ ዝነበረ
    ውሽማኺ ‘ዩ ተባህለት
    ብዘይ ናታ ድሌት

    ዳግማይ
    ጸገማ ተሓዲሱ
    ወረ ወሲኹ መሊሱ
    ምስሊ ገጻ ሃሲሱ
    ናይ ኲናት መንፈስ ለቢሱ

    ተስፋ ቖሪጻ
    ትጽበ ‘ንተተስወረ
    ሓድሽ ውሽማኣ
    ምስኡ
    ‘ንተበነነ ቃንዛኣ

    ኣምላኽ ይስማዕኪ ዝሓፍተይ

  • MERIR

    Hi all I just wish there are more enlightened people to solve the problem of Tigray. He said it and I agree.

    https://youtu.be/oIKP3KrmFmM

    • haileTG

      Hey Merir,

      Thanks for the video nitricc arkey! Although, I respect his right to speak about his own country and I do not have any right to comment on that, it is instructive to Dongolo how the development work TPLF did in 30 years can’t be denied even by its enemies. He said the country was economically expanded but it needed to be people centered. Dongolo was at his wits end trying to find what PFDJ built in 30 years. Let alone its enemy, even its ardent friends can’t rescue PFDJ in its squander of an entire generation for nothing. Like Temesgen Yared said, Eritrea chirho koynu drara:-)

      • MERIR

        Greetings Haile; long time my friend; how are you doing? well, you said it right, you can’t ever know about Tigray and TPLF than the Tigryans themselves, but when the educated natives speak, you should listen. Regarding the Eritrean government, one needs a little fairness and dig deeper. If you ask me, the greatest achievement of the Eritrean government is holding on Eritrea intact regardless the challenges and sabotages faced from TPLF. I am amazed when people make fun of the dams and the rural area heath-care, water availability and forestation that are accomplished through the years. water is the very strategic resource that will make a difference to the regular people and that is a noble deed. I know reading from your posts, you are standing with with TPLF but don’t forget it was TPLF who ignited the war. I have no idea, a person of your caliber unable to see this fact. They took the gamble and lost. I am who I am, hizbawi-Gimbar. come to your senses.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          Couple of points. This guy May be correct in all what he said about TPLF, but that video was 5 months ago. After what’s has befallen to Tigray and the Tigray people after the war, I doubt his stance remains the same. When you interview him now, then we will see what he says.

          The Ethiopian singer “The Weeknd” had donated 1 million to help people in Tigray. He was a supporter of Ethiopian history through his donation to the Ethiopian church as well as geez studies at the university.

          He has come out and condemned the atrocities befallen on the people.

          Eritrea defending herself from the missile is one thing but invading and causing so much damage and inflict pain to the civilians is another thing. It’s beyond comprehension and common sense, why in the world is IA thinking and he thought he can get away with it (Even Abiy (some of his officials, and the Ethiopian human rights) come out and condemned it publicly.

          He has exposed Eritrea to the greatest risk and unless some Eritreans do something now and soon, our future is very bleak.

          • MERIR

            Hi Brehe; what is up my man, long time. how are you doing? I hope all is good with you. If anything this guy is proven right. If TPLF had a shred of responsibility; once they tried to dialog the federal government, then that should of the end of it. I can’t blame them for taking the action what they thought was right but once it failed, they should have spared the people of Tigray and the investment they had invested.Now Tigray is back to where it was the late sxities. The Eritrean government has every right to get involved, the TIGRYANS launched a missile. Sure, there is a question between the federal government and Eritrea, when the Ethiopian forces retreat to Eritrea, Eritrean took all the advanced weaponry and gave it theirs that out dated once. for instances, the Ethiopian forces retreated with T-72 tanks and Sahebia, took this tanks and went war with T-55 tanks and this didn’t go well with the Ethiopians. So the main reason that you hear that Eritrean forces did this and did that is BS, the Issue deeper. at the end of the day, Eritrea saved Ethiopia, the nd of the story.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            I am doing good thank you. I don’t know why we have to worry about Ethiopia to the determinant of our survival. Last time we heard Somalia, Somalia where Eritrea was sanctioned and the people heavy price. The same Somalia who turn around and made deal with Ethiopia and they were used to sanction Eritrea.

            I was listening to the Ethiopian YouTuber call ደሱ. He went to Eritrea during the independence and he has so much appreciation for the country beauty and hospitality of the people. Which is all good.

            As he found out Ethiopian airline is not even flying to Eritrea. He had to fly from Addis Abeba to Dubai to get to Eritrea.

            So much for saving Ethiopia as we say.

            Now Eritrea will pay all the price why the Ethiopian.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Berhe and Nitricc [Merir]

            Firstly, for Nitricc, I would like to say the following:

            – You say TPLF needs to negotiate, yes that is what they accepted from day one. The continuation of the war is being imposed on them.

            – On earlier post you said that we shouldn’t mock the micro-dams and health clinics in remote places that PFDJ flags up. Well, If I have a car worth about $60,000 and you want to buy it from me, I would not accept 10g of gold for it. This is not to mean gold is worthless, rather it means 10g is not equivalent in value. If you look at 30 years worth of progress in our region, you could appreciate the value of 30 years. The micro-dams and clinics were mostly UNDP funded and the locals built them with free labor. I would put all of that at a max 1 year and half project, even that is really relaxed. Rwanda for example built tens of thousands modern housing condos and cleared the ghetto from Kigali in 2 years. Our region can boast light railway, grand dams, thousand Km modern highway, brand new giant ports, tens of universities…. in less than 20 years or more in 30. PFDJ talks of micro-dams long covered by mud, clinics without medicine or equipment and roads villagers cleared because they could not access the main road built by Italians. We are not mocking work but stating that PFDJ squandered 30 years doing Nothing. Dongolo seems to think each new song is a developmental milestone.

            Now Berhe,

            I agree the future looks bleak, the same was the past to speak accurately. Whether IA withdraws or remains, a heavy price will be paid – possibly this could be his end game. It is likely that with Eritrea out, negotiations and compromises will be made swiftly (I understand the strong feelings around this). However, IA will have no role in such process and Eritrea will be in for a long haul of sanctions and investigations. Indeed a bleak prospect, but only if IA holds on. With him out of the picture, I have reasonable faith that we can turn the tides.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat haileTG
            The problem with us is that we tend to forget, a lot.
            ዲጋታትን ሓጽብታትን ሰሪሕና: ጥብ ዝበለት ማይ ዓቂብና። የግዳስ ዝ ኣከብናዮ ማይ ክንጥቀመሉ ኣይከኣልናን። ቃል ፕረሲደንተ ዓዲ ሃሎ።
            Translation, we didn’t do a sh*t; Just like electricity, infrastructure, agriculture, ports, etc.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            You are confidently saying that Tplf wanted negotiating from day one.
            First, don’t forget PMAA begged them for three years prior to their lightning attack on the Federal Forces.
            Second, sometimes it is safe to assume that Residents and visitors of Awatenation closely follow events that have been happening in our region. They are well informed individuals who just don’t consume any information you confidently throw at them.
            Third, it is absolutely too late for the dead Tplf to come to the negotiating table. You should have advised them to negotiate with the federal government rather than retreating to their caves.
            በመጨረሻም ሂሩት በቀለ “ተው ዘገየህ” ትላለች:: ማህሙድም እንደተለመደው ሰበብ ያበዛል::
            አብረን እናድምጥ…
            https://youtu.be/9hqs1UvyCjU

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            Thanks for the song, both are my old favorites!

            We are talking about negotiating for ceasefire, the clock starts from day one of the fighting. Not prior to the fighting. Those prior negotiations were not for ceasefire, because there was no fighting.

            Abichu you are he’ll of a smarty guy in that camp. If you’re missing this subtle distinction, it worries me that Ethiopia is getting to the madness that took hold in Eritrea’s political elite in 2001. Let your yes be yes and your no be no. Don’t listen to the ridiculous justification of PMAA and make historic mistake.

            Let’s listen to Alamin’s together on regret:

            https://youtu.be/QMfT1p76iEE

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Thanks for the song.
            “ካዩኝ ስቄ ካላዩኝ ሰርቄ” አይሰራም!!
            The government begged them for three years. They refused any and all expecting the government to fold. Instead of the lightning attack, they should have accepted the olive branches the government extended several times.
            Now it is time to negotiate. It is time to run.

          • haileTG

            Wendime Abi,

            So do you mean the conflict needs to end by war? How much death and destruction would become enough to kick start negotiations? IMO use the tigrinya saying kante yemayqer engida defagmeh samew:)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Quite an easy question by your standards!
            Either the Tplf/TDF totally eliminated or they should surrender to the federal government.
            Here is ሙሉቀን መለሰ “አልረፈደብሽም አልዘገየሽም ወይ”
            ይልሃል::
            https://youtu.be/6wvCZdj8gXE

      • Brhan

        Hi Nitric
        If they are lost why is the US and now EU and Japan calling Eritrean soldiers to withdraw from Tigray? Do you think the US still believe they are not lost as you say?

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hailat & All,

    Please listen to the comparison and contrast of Kosovo, the role of NATO in Kosovo, and the possible role of NATO in Tigray. Will the fate of future Tigrains be the same as the Kosovites?

    https://youtu.be/e8WNYrm9L5M

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ሚዶ ገዚአ ጨጉረይ ክምሽጦ
    ካን! ከም ዝበራሕኩ ረሲዐዮ ድሮ
    እዝስ ‘ንታይ ንብሎ?
    ምዝንባል የእምሮ
    ለካ ዝዓበየ ነገር ኣሎ

    ሃገረይ ኣላ ዶ ተሼጣ
    ከምዛ ዋዛ
    ኣነ ከይፈለጥኩ
    ኣብዘይፈረምኩሉ ፌርማ
    ንደመኛታትና ሂቦማ
    ——-ከነውጽኦም
    ——-ጥራይ እግሮም
    ክምለሱ ግን ምስ ጫማ

    ገሊኣን ተጣቕዕ
    ገለን ድማ ተገሪማ
    ብዛላንበሳ-ቡሬ-ራማ
    ዘይኮነስ
    ብዘይፍላጥ ህዝቢ ሓዊሶማ
    ገለን ከኣ ኣብ ዓዋተ
    ተጠሊዖም ይብሉና
    ሃገር ኣውሒሶማ
    ዓጀብ

    ክተሓዋወሰኒ ጀሚሩ ናትና ነገር

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Brhan,

    The UNSC appointments of 5 new members included UAE. You were asking questions recently about UAE, here is a closest remark…

    Richard Gowan, U.N. director for the International Crisis Group and a long-time U.N. watcher, says the United Arab Emirates may play a role in those areas and elsewhere.

    “The UAE has a lot of influence not only in the Middle East but in the Horn of Africa, and other council members will hope the Emiratis will use their influence to help stabilize countries like Sudan and Ethiopia,” Gowan said.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    With the G7 talking about Ethiopia’s Tigray conflict, we hope they push the UNSC to move away from the current stalemate into real action to force PMAA to enter into a ceasefire agreement with TDF.

    Honestly, despite PMAA’s wishes to have Woyane dispersed, dead, buried etc… The fact is that the TDF and the people of Tigray stood tall in the face such unimaginable atrocity, and asymmetric war of many to one. The worst is behind them and they are now in a position to inflict as much damage as they get. The Ethiopian and Eritrean as well as Amhara forces – with alleged support of UAE and Somali troops earlier on, have failed to achieve their objectives. The TDF has shown great resilience and managed to dominate the diplomatic arena, popular support and media narrative fully.

    In order to usher PMAA away from his Monte Carlo fallacy regarding the current diplomatic stalling at the UNSC. Since, the TDF has proven that it is now an indestructible force to reckon with, the PMAA should enter into good faith ceasefire and broad negotiations. He also need to be aware that events don’t need his permission and they can happen against his will, should he continue his childish and emotional approach so far. Lives are at risk and the G7 should agree strong action to improve the peace and security of the people of Tigray. The marauding invaders who are committing atrocity, ethnic cleansing and unlawful land grab in Tigray should be forced to get out by all means necessary.

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      I believe it is time for you to increase the frequency and duration of your praying sessions.
      regarding the indomitable TDF you proudly and confidently bragged that “ … they are now in a position to inflict as much damage as they get”
      እግዚኦ ማህረነ ክርስቶስ

      • haileTG

        Merhaba Guad Abi,

        Would you bet your house or a large sum of money on TDF being destroyed in the foreseeable future? I wouldn’t and you shouldn’t, the reason is the truth of the matter.

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          I did bet earlier and lost a great deal. My bet was for Tplf to fight for at least for five years before they retreated. Boy! They let me down big time!!!!!
          They collapsed like a balloon they were.
          Lesson learned, ሓውና ኃይልዋ!

    • Brhan

      Merhaba halieTG,
      I would like to share with you and all Awatistas what Samantha Power, Adminstrator of USAID said yesterday:

      1. Although Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed has frequently cut off power and mobile phone access to the region, we know that the forces allied to the Ethiopian government have damaged and looted health facilities, leaving only an estimated 16 percent of them still working today.

      2.Soldiers have also razed factories to disrupt the local economy, and even damaged some of the oldest mosques and churches in all of Africa.

      3.In 2019, Prime Minister Abiy was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his work to end Ethiopia’s longstanding war with Eritrea. But unless he ends the violence, ensures the withdrawal of Eritrean forces, and allows humanitarian workers unfettered access to people in need, revisiting famine upon Ethiopia will be his legacy.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear HaileTG,

      What’s the status of EDF in Tigray? Have they withdrawn or partially withdrawn?

      I saw some FB post video showing withdrawal with their heavy arms / tanks loaded on trucks.

      They looked they were leaving with no issues.

      • Brhan

        Hello Berhe,
        According to Mark Lowcock , UN under – secretary – General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergence Relief Coordinator, EDF are not only in Tigray but also interrogating and assaulting UN aid workers. He said his office documented 50 violations (interrogating and assaulting) just , yesterday June 10, 2021. You can google , YouTube and you will listen the above from him.

      • haileTG

        Hey Berhe,

        Happy Friday!

        Nothing for sure, but reading between the lines, PMAA can’t afford to have them out. So, they seem to be in lock position.

        Here is a song for my friend Dongolo:-)

        https://youtu.be/yrtKQXaUR08

        Dongolo, many things we talked about yesterday is in the song…

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat,

          Thank you for the song that brings the memory of our martyrs. Here is a song for you and like who fight for the truth. “አይትዓንቅፋኒ” by Almaz Aregay – a song that speaks about our realities.

          https://youtu.be/RDI_5WpQcps

          Regard

        • Desbele

          Selam Haile,
          Thanks for sharing. Hopeful our artist seem to start to work…
          “This is precisely the time when artists go to work. There is no time for despair, no place for self-pity, no need for silence, no room for fear. We speak, we write, we do language. That is how civilizations heal.”
          Toni Morrison, In times of dread, artists must never choose to remain silent.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት
            ደስበለ/ሃይለ

            ቀነይትን ከወንትን ክንእድ
            ክጅምሮ ዶ በዚ ውሩይ ፋእድ
            ንኺድ

            ኣብራር-ባርያ-ኣብራሃም ኣፈወርቂ
            ብላዕሊ ዝተባረኹ ብሓቂ
            ዮኑስ ትበርህ ጸሃይቱ
            ፈይ ዘበለሎም በረኸቱ
            ካብ ላዕላይ ሰማይ

            ቆርጫጭ ትኳቦ ወዲ ትኳቦ
            ዜማን ግጥምን ካብ ላዕሊ ምሰዘነቦ [ም]
            ባዕሉ ፈጣሪ ናብ ልቦም

            ዑቕቢት ሳሚ ዘምኪኤል
            በየነ ፍረ ሞሞና ኣማኑኤል
            ውፉይ ምህረትኣብ ምክኤል
            ፋይቲንጋ
            ምልስ ኣበለቶም ንላንጋ-ላንጋ

            ይቕጽል ናብ ደረስትን ኣለይትን

          • Dongolo

            Selam Desbele.. Given the number of upvotes you receive, similar to your colleagues like Amanuel Hidrat and Barolle, do you envision that you will be running for top tier positions within the highly successful GiE?

          • Barrole

            Dongolo,

            Please, contain your fear. The despair you’re openly demonstrating will only hurt you and your ilk in an agonising way.

            1) You think too highly of me when you’re suggesting I’m their colleague. They are far more experienced than I am and as such deserve more credit than being associated with the likes of myself.

            2) I have never desired, or even envisioned a position in anything related to GiE.

            3) I have never desired, or even envisioned a position related to anything in Eritrea.

            4) If I was your handler I would have fired you in an instant and resigned for recruiting an absolute moron like yourself.

            5) I have a pen name like I’ve mentioned previously, but I will change it so it’s clear for those who don’t know.

    • Barrole

      Selam haw Haile TG,

      One must accept that TDF is representing their people and eradicating them will not lead to a solution. We as Eritreans should never support that our army is being used and abused for the gain of the devils apprentice and those who elected him.

      It comes a time were one need to pick a side.”A friend of all is a friend of none, Aristotle. I learned this truth the hard way.

      I will apologise formally for supporting the evil dictator previously in another post in due time. Even though I’m not a public figure like many respectable participants in this forum, it should be known that we must repent when we see evil of this magnitude befallen on any ethnic group, race, or because of religious beliefs.

      Being a one man army sounds cool, and I’ve been it my whole life. It makes you strong, but in order to create change we must work together. It is the only way forward, and it is their greatest fear. It makes them sleepless at night just imagining that we can come together to achieve our goals. Goals that are selfless and pure.

      Orthodox killing Orthodox
      Muslims killing Muslims
      Same mezmur, same zikr. May the radicals among our people keep this in mind and open for even better understandinging among our people. Let us fear fetari and denounce evil wherever we see it regardless of our political views.

      Have a blessed weekend!

      • said

        Greetings,
        Barrole
        Thank you and god bless you .for your quotations is well summarized .
        (Orthodox killing Orthodox
        Muslims killing Muslims
        Same mezmur, same zikr. May the radicals among our people keep this in mind and open for even better understandinging among our people. Let us fear fetari and denounce evil wherever we see it regardless of our political views.)
        “They say, ‘Peace, peace’ when there is no peace (Jeremiah 6:14). These days everyone is speaking about peace and many times from day one ?
        In this regard of Spirituality and faith is wooing us to transcend ourselves and experience an expansive opening-up to the Tigrayan of their suffering, the other. Opening-up to the suffering of others ,the Tigrayan, in opening up and cracking of our cocoons lives , and interlocking with those who are vulnerable and defenseless, Tigrayan ,in doing justice and loving mercy at the animating heart ,to free ourselves from all forms of oppression, Tigrayan living under Ethiopian occupancy today . And that any theology seemingly based on the bible or on faith or on history, that legitimizes the occupation Tigrayan, is far from Christian teachings, because it calls for violence and war kills innocent Tigrayan ,It is against God Almighty, The injustices and war against the Tigrayan people, which is the Ethiopian army and EDF and Amhara militant an invaders , It is an evil that must be resisted….Christian love invites us to resist.

        • Barrole

          Selam haw Said,

          Thank you for your message that consist of sticking up for those who are defenseless and allowing ourselves to feel their suffering! Indeed, libena ke terkis allewo.

          Also, you mentioned something else that I find important and would like to comment on, namely that Tigray is under Ethiopian occupancy.

          Tigrayans in my opinion should never accept to be apart of Ethiopia. The separation process should be something those in power are planning to execute as soon as the opportunity presents itself. It is safe to say that they will get international support.

          I was an opponent of foreign interference in Eritrea before, but I came to the conclusion that western involvement to remove DIA and rescue the Tigrayans who are in dire straits to be necessary.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ባሮሊ
            ‘ቲ ተባዕ ደፊሩ ይነቅፍ
            ‘ቲ ፈራሕ ከምዘይሰመዐ ይሓልፍ

            በዓል መትከል ንፋስ ነይንቕንቖ
            ናሓደረ ኩሉ ሰብ የድንቖ

            ዋላ ሸይጣን ካብ ላዕሊ ወሪዱ
            ነዚ ናትና ዲያብሎስ
            ‘ንተዝማልኦ ምስኡ

            ጽቡቕ ገበርካ! ምስበልክዎ
            ‘ቶም ሕጂ ኣይፋል ዝብሉ
            ደቓይቕ ኣይምስወሰደሎምን
            ክኽሕድዎ

            ግምጥል ከም ካራቲስታ
            ኣይናትናን ምበሉ ኮታ

            ኣብ መትከልካ ርገጽ ጥራይ!

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother MM.

            Yes, and appreciate for the above poem, let me invite the bellow link so you can see the other leader to sing with his people in front of war while our leader is hiding in Adi Hallo.

            ስምዒት ጅጋኑ ዝቀሰቀሰ ሳዕስዒት ጌታቸው ረዳ ካብ ሓራ መሬት ትግራይ

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYtgrmFxCIE

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮባችን
            መደነስማ ወፍም ትደንሳለች!!!
            መፈርጠጥና መደነስ የሚወዳደራቸው አይገኝም:: zero to Seven Hundred in fourteen days!!!!!
            Now that is impressive!!! The dance? As long as you enjoyed it, I’m ok with that.
            Are they in some kind of cave? አፈር ነህና ወደ አፈር ትመለሳለህ” ይላ ታላቁ መፅሐፍ::
            Here is a beautiful song for you.
            Fast Car by Tracy Chapman .
            https://youtu.be/yvGfVdx-gNo

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Abo,

            Not only dancing, they are very practical people.

            Even 7 times death is chosen by Mesfen as you can see bellow, and he is dead by your solders.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1o1_GzqoyY&ab_channel=DigitalWeyane%E1%8B%B2%E1%8C%82%E1%89%B3%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%88%E1%8B%AB%E1%8A%90

            ነዚ ህዝቢ እዙይ 7 ግዜ ትስወኣሉ ቃል ጀግና ተጋዳላይ ነብስሄር ስዩም መስፍን ጀግና ኣብ ቃሉ ፅኑዕ በዓል መትከልmy lifetime hero ✊✊

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮብዬ
            It is perfectly alright if you chose Seyoum Mesfin as your lifetime hero.
            ሳህል በረሃ ውስጥ ቁምጣህን አስወልቆ ጀርባህን ስለተለተለህ ብታከብረውና ብትሰግድለት አይደንቀኝም:: ለተኮላሸ ወኔ prosthesis አልተፈጠረለትም::
            Here is “The Power of Love “ by the powerful Jennifer Rush for your enjoyment.
            https://youtu.be/mpJHhWtrYMM

          • kokhob selamone2

            Thank you Abo,

            That is nice from you.

            Did not you think, it is difficult for me to hear this kind of love song at this moment? Do you know why. I am in 3D..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮባችን
            The only thing you need at this moment is የፍቅር ዜማ:: ፖለቲካውን ፖለቲከኞቹ እንዲያቦኩት ተውላቸው::
            “ቦምቡ ፍቅርሽ ቢፈነዳ
            ላንቺ ብዬ ገባሁ እዳ ” ይላል የአዲስ ጮሌ!

            የወያኔ ፍቅር ልብህ ላይ ፈንድቶ
            በማታውቀው ጣጣ በሰው እንቶፈንቶ
            አንተ በምን እዳህ ምን ሊጨምርልህ?
            ጠዋትና ማታ በሃዘን እህህህህህ
            ላይመለስ ሄዶ ላይመጣ ተቀብሮ
            አንተ ለወያኔ ስታሰማ እሮሮ ያ’ዘን እንጉርጉሮ
            የተውሶ ፍቅር የማይዘልቅ ለከርሞ
            ኧረ ተው! ኮኮቤ ተመከር ዘንድሮ ይቅር አምባጏሮ::

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Abo,

            Open the bellow link and remember those years, when we hope to see peaceful and untied Ethiopia. Now those years are no more my dear..Tigrai will go away asking for freedom and what will happen to that big and historical nation? Do you think those years will return?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAQh3BxA9g0&list=UUV-cNrE066v0lDxenqNnvgg&index=4&ab_channel=KokhobSelam

            KS,,

            .

          • Abi

            ኮኮብዬ
            የትግራይ ህዝብ ከዛሬ ጀምሮ ኢትዮጵያውያን አይደለንም ብሎ ነፃነቱን ከመረጠ ምንም አይነት ኃይል ከፊቱ ሊቆም አይገባም:: ምርጫቸውን ማክበር ተገቢ ይሆናል::
            ስልጣን ላይ ሲፈናጠጡ ኢትዮጵያውያን: ከስልጣን ሲወርዱ ትግራዊያን መሆን ተገቢ አይደለም::
            ቅራቅንቧቸውን ሸክፈው ድምፅ ሳያበዙ ሹልክ ብለው መውጣት ይችላሉ::

            ሳይሄዱ መረሳት ሳይሞቱ መቀበር
            ምርጫቸው ከሆነ እራስን ማጭበርበር
            ሄደው ይሞክሩት ቀርተው ከመፎከር!
            የህዝቡ ግዴታ መብታቸውን ማህበር
            በሆታ ሸኝቶ በእልልታ ሸኝቶ በሩን መቀርቀር!!!
            ምንድነው ቅሬታ ምንድነው ቅር ቅር
            ከየት የመጣ ነው የጠላህን ማፍቀር?

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Lovely Abo,

            Civilized choice. Nice Abi. Then you should think of city near Bahir Dar. Are you from Gondar? But then you should forget about 3000+ history.

            What about Oromia? I think Ethiopians should think and work hard to unite this great nation peacefully, It might be difficult it is possible

            Enjoy the bellow song, It s nice one,

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Pl8CzNzCw&ab_channel=BillieEilishVEVO

            -But I know some day I’ll make it out of here
            Even if it takes all night or a hundred years
            Need a place to hide, but I can’t find one near
            Wanna feel alive, outside I can’t fight my fear

            Isn’t it lovely, all alone
            Heart made of glass, my mind of stone
            Tear me to pieces, skin to bone
            Hello, welcome home….

            Do you got it?

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮባችን
            You are really shining these days!!
            The 3000 year history doesn’t bother me at all . We will start from year zero. My only worry is that Eritrea is going to be at least 30 years older than Ethiopia:)
            Now that is unacceptable reality which I will learn to live with.
            Keep shining ኮኮባችን!!

          • Mez

            Good day Barrole,

            Becareful about what you are wishing from Santa for Christmas. Learn from libya, syria, and Philippines.

            Thanks

          • Barrole

            Good evening Mez,

            I use to argue against external interference because of the reason you mentioned, among a few others. But, it is essentially because I value Eritrean lives and don’t want the little infrastructure we have get destroyed.

            I changed my stance recently and I did it while contemplating things I read, things I new to be true even though I suppressed it for the above reasons. The forumite MM contributed with his assessment of what it would mean to remove DIA alone.

            Here is why I changed my mind after holding a steadfast opinion against external interference for over a decade.

            The outcome would essentially the same if DIA is removed by natural causes, since the dictator undoubtedly have a prodigy in the making and because it is a deeply rooted system that needs to be dismantled. Nepotism must be avoided at all cost if we want to see desirable changes in Eritrea.

            Furthermore, our people need to be liberated from the torment they have faced and still face today. We owe it to them to work for their freedom.

            We also have the Tigrayans who are facing to die by the thousands because of starvation and they arr persecuted because of their ethnicity in Ethiopia.

            The time for Western intervention is now and will get support by the masses. The difference between an Eritrean invasion and the countries you mentioned is that the outcome will be supported by an incredible amount of the Eritrean diaspora and the sleeping Eritreans at home waiting to rise for the occasion.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Barrole,

            Well said and well put. Except soften you language to get traction at the receiving end. Keep up!

            Regard

          • Mez

            Good day Metshaf Jigninet
            Please take a not about the last country in my listing.

            Thanks

          • Solomon Seyum

            Memhrey Mez,

            At this rate it may very well be inevitable. A strong GiE matters and Eritreans should strengthen and scrutinize starting with:

            Are they under a gag order at the moment or very busy with logistics and setting up of whatever it is they need to setup?

            tSAtSE

          • Mez

            HOW ARE YOU tSAtSE,
            we missed you for a while.

            GiE? Most likely it is, still, in the formation process.

            Thanks

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat-TG

      You have said:-

      “The fact is that the TDF and the people of Tigray stood tall in the face of such unimaginable atrocity, and asymmetric war of many to one.”

      You are absolutely right, and you summed up the truth as it appears.

      To change the momentum from “defending” to “attacking” in a war of “many against one,” it in itself, is an imaginable success one has to reckon with. Now the dream to burry them or to vanquish them, or to disperse them like a flour in the wind” are now proved to be an utopian dream disappeared from the horizon or you could call it “ሕልሚ ደርሆ”.

      I haven’t seen a United people in a war and diplomacy to turn the ugly realities on the ground to a hopeful prospect that determine the fate of their people and their statehood. Once they came out from this encirclement by multiple enemies, I can guarantee you, that they will revive their economy and rebuilt their destroyed towns, cities, and industrial infrastructures in full speed to envy their enemies. Just give them a peaceful period of two decades. Those who lives on enmity will always live on how to destroy developments and achievements of others rather than to bring changes and development to their own people.

      Regards

      • kokhob selamone2

        Yes Brother Aman,

        People can win the impossible. Whatever the armed enemy is holding the power remains wilth people. See the link bellow but to the last please.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcg6s18qU-A

        KS,,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kokhobay,

          These are the people who fought and die with us. These are the people who welcomed Eritreans who escaped from slavery and the wrath of the despot’s lieutenants. These are the people who helped our young to go to their universities all over Ethiopia. We are living in a twisted world, where despots could turn against their friends and make friendship with their former enemies – all these has nothing to do with the interest of their country. The current senseless war is an exemplary of the twisted relationship between dictators.

          Regard

          • kokhob selamone2

            Yes, Brother Aman,

            Nice, really we here to learn and to teach. We should learn from those people and act accordingly. Change comes within first and that is what TPLF has done.

            KS,,

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Shalom Awates
    I have to admit and Apologize for certain things
    regarding the suggestions I made here at Awate
    about the politics of the region.
    You had better info than mine wrt to the unfolding
    situation in the region.
    I was never aware of how much the woyane/ Hewehat
    leadership made the crisis so deep and so bad for every
    body seeking or working for peace and justice.
    Hewahat / Woyane leadership has made it so much worse
    for both Ethiopians and Eritreans worse than what I or some
    one can think off. I now from the information I gathered
    think that the Woyane/Hewehat leadership have sown
    so much enemity and discord between the Eritrean and
    Ethiopian Societies . The Dergue/Esepa looks a saint and
    Holly compared to the woyanes/ Hewehat if I am correct.
    Sorry for my shallow suggestions I made minimizing woyane/
    Hewhat crimes thinking for the sake of peace
    It looks much worse and much deeper situation to be solved
    that easy with good intentions. Justice is the way.
    I might have been wrong and soft to the woyane/Hewahat
    leaders I guess.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ባጽዕ ሉል ኔራ
    ሕጂ ግን ፋልሶ
    ተባሂላ
    ——-ባዕሉ ኣብ ቅራዕ ወጺኡ
    ——-ኢሉ
    ኣመሓዳሪ ናይ ንኡሽተይ ጋብላ
    ከይሓፈረ

    ሓላፊ ናይ ኤረትራ ንሱ ከምዝኾነ
    ኣይተሰቆሮን
    ዋላ ከምዝፈዲ ዘሎ ሕነ
    ——-ንሰዓብቱ ክምህሮም
    ዝፈተነ
    ——ኣበይ ‘ኳ ከይርድኦም
    ብልሓቱ
    መዓስ ወፊሩ ይኣቱ
    ——ኣንፈት ስለዘይብሎም
    ዘይፈልጡ
    ከምኡ ስለዝኾነ ‘ዩ ድማ
    ሃውቲቱ
    ነቲ ቃለ-መሕተት
    ንውልቁ ብሒቱ
    ንሱ ምስዓረበስ
    ክንደይ ኮን ከተዘንቱ ‘ያ
    ዓራቱ

    ንጽበ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mehandsay,

      “ሓላፊ ናይ ኤረትራ ንሱ ከምዝኾነ
      ኣይተሰቆሮን
      ዋላ ከምዝፈዲ ዘሎ ሕነ
      ——-ንሰዓብቱ ክምህሮም
      ዝፈተነ
      ——ኣበይ ‘ኳ ከይርድኦም”

      When I read this part of your poem, I start to elicit a “laugh of anger” visualizing the so called educate section of our society, who are clapping the death of our young generation, for a war conducted to satiate and stabilize the despot. Just visualize without naming them, those who are roaring in this forum for the nature of the war. In all your poems there is always memorable lines that tells about the predicament of our people. Keep up brother.

      Regards

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ

        ሕንከቱ ዘጥፈአ
        መትከሉ ኣብ ሑጻ ዝነደቐ
        ምሳይ ‘ሎ ክትብል
        ብሕጓ መሎቐ

        ሕልናኡ ሼጡ
        ቆቢዑ ኣውጺኡ
        ሕቖኡ ኣድኒኑ

        ጎይታይ ኢሉ ዝቕበል
        ነቲ ዓቢ ገበል
        ምርኣይ ዘጸግሞም
        ‘ቲ ናይ ጥፍኣት ማዕበል

        ወረ ምሁራት ‘ና ይብሉ
        ከም ካሮሳ
        ንጎድኒ ዘይጥምቱ
        ኣብ ክንደኦም
        ፈለጥቶም ይሓንኩ

        እዝስ ናብራ ‘ይኮነን

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas
    US-EU High Level Round table ON The Humanitarian Emergency in Tigray @YouTube June 10, 2021.

    • Abi

      Brhan
      It must be excruciatingly painful to be የአእምሮ ምርኮኛ::
      His excellency PMAA is cutting ribbons and the Tplf lifeline every day.
      አቢቹ አንገትህን ሲጥ
      አንተ አይንህ ፍጥጥ
      ትንፋሽህ ቁርጥርጥ
      ፈስህ ከታች ሲያመልጥ
      አፍንጫህ ንፍጥ በንፍጥ!!

      • Brhan

        Abi
        Have you listened to the round table?

      • Dongolo

        Selam Abi. I often wonder how some of the pro-TPLF hawker Eritreans such as Dr. Paulos are doing today. Thing is, many of these people within the Eritrean opposition had reportedly been earlier issued Ethiopian passports courtesy of the TPLF. i have been told of at least a couple of these folks were brazen enough to travel that to Eritrea under guise as Ethiopian tourists.

        • Abi

          Dongolo
          Dr Paulos ( I called him Saul) must be hiding in the Dedebit caves along with his handlers. He went through a lot of trouble in his efforts to prove his loyalty to the decaying Tplf.
          ፍቅር እስከ መቃብር!!
          The concept of “Ethiopian Tourist” ያስቀኛል:: It is all emotions at best or politics at worst.

          Do you believe that the Ethiopian security forces are naive enough to be tricked by the Eritrean opposition members? I believe Isu has the dossier of all the opposition members who reside in Ethiopia ( with their passport numbers) on his desk. Definitely, Abichu knows their shoes sizes and how many teeth they have got individually or what they had for lunch.

          • Barrole

            Hello Abi,

            Are you still residing in the West? 🙂

            Do you think the authorities in western countries keep tabs on radicals, and those who pose a threat to their citizens?

            I will leave you with a wonderful song called Gual Bahri, a reminder of Assab. The port US forces and allies could possibly be stationed at in the near future.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgetET7_mk

      • Aman Y.

        Selam Wendim Abi
        Abiy’s ribbon cutting spree is not healthy. He is redoing ground breaking ceremonies already done by PMH and inaugural ceremonies for unfinished projects as well. He is avoiding the international community, pretending to be bussy, because he does want to admit his lies and he has no power to change developments on the ground. Unfortunately, it looks like the cunning evil IA is running the show.

    • Dongolo

      Selam Brhan. The U.S.’s over-amplified concern with Tigray these days has everything to do with the GERD. In the end, should the TPLF have withdrew from Badme from the very beginning, instead of trying to assassinate/overthrow Abiy, there would be no issue in Tigray. Even today, should the terrorist TPLF simply surrender, lives of innocent Tigrayans would be spared.

      • no one

        Is GERD more interested now than when it startes to build?

      • Brhan

        Selam Dongolo,
        Is that what you listen in the closed PF(DJ) mafia style meetings that you attend. Or you think Shabite preferred silence instead of entertaining the secret meetings’ propaganda! But thanks Dongolo, for sharing the info, it tell us how the NNNN are analyzing the situation.

        • Barrole

          Selam haw Brhan,

          Al hmar mush min Eritrea.

        • Dongolo

          Selam Brhan. You might find the following articles of interest:
          ‘Are the US and EU honest brokers in the Tigray conflict?
          https://borkena.com/2021/06/09/are-the-us-and-eu-honest-brokers-in-the-tigray-conflict/

          ‘Egypt urges UN to push Ethiopia to engage in serious GERD talks’
          http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/africa/2021-06/11/c_1310001456.htm

          • Brhan

            Selam Dongolo,
            I am not concerned about the GERD. I am only concerned about Eritrean troops and refugees stuck in Tigray. If you are concerned about Eritrea , speak and discuss about these two issues otherwise do not be Catholic more than the pope.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Brhan. You say ,do not be more Catholic than the pope’? I do not recall you raising red flags when the TPLF were preventing Eritrean refugees from leaving refugee camps in Tigray or when they were using them as body shields.

          • Brhan

            Selam Dongolo
            I mean you seem to be more Ethiopian than Ethiopians, in case you miss my point.
            Secondly, since the day one (November 04, 2020) I have raised the two issue and you can check awate archives.
            I have been critical to TPLF’s policies to Eritrea and Eritreans but without buying DIA’s card that have been used for more than 20 years. DIA has used the card
            To prolong his power
            To run from his past and present miscalculated adventures,
            To kill the constitution,
            To run slave type national service,
            To suppress freedom of speech.
            To etc…
            ካፒቾ ….. ወላስ ዳንጎላ ስለ ዝኾንካ ኣይርደኣካን ኢዩ

          • Dongolo

            Selam Brhan. Absolutely BS! Please try again. You completely failed to respond to my queries in this regard months ago. Have you ever criticized the TPLF for their treatment of Eritrean refugees? No!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Brhan,

            Not only they don’t care about the atrocities that are befallen on the Tigray people, but also they don’t care about the Eritrean souls who are dying in the ethnic war of Ethiopia and the Eritrean refugees who trapped in the war environment. This reminds me my Russian professor, Dr Karavanov, saying “speaking to Ato Shileshi (our director back then) is speaking to the wall.” So speaking to Dongolo is speaking to the wall.

            Regard

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Not intended to insult anyone but those who have resided outside of Eritrea for 30 years or more, have absolutely no business being active participants in Eritrea opposition movement for you are totally -generationally and culturally detached- from what Eritrea is today. Say for example someone that immigrated to the U.S. in the early 80s, you have been detached from Eritrea for some 40 years. Go back in time an equal period from when you arrived in the U.S. and that would put you in the pre-WWII era. How can you profess to advocate for change in a country that you are totally disconnected with and have no reasonable ability to capture the country’s spirit, needs and desires. Please bear in mind that the average age of Eritrean is now 19.2, far less than the years most of you have spend abroad. GiE? How long have it’s main proponents been abroad? Would you bring somebody in the U.S. that had been in a coma since 1980 to lead the country in 2021? You simply have to face reality and acknowledge that Father Time has passed and made you irrelevant as it pertains to Eritrea’s current political affairs. Much needed change in Eritrea’s political arena, absolutely at this stage, must come from within.

    • haileTG

      Hey Dongolo,

      You could say that with many post cold war African countries, not with Eritrea. Can you tell us if there is anything new in Eritrea in the past 30 years that we need to catch up on? None whatsoever! Eritrea is exactly as it was 30 years ago structurally, only more run down, broken more, and less developed than Col. Mengie’s administration. No internet, no university, no industry, no fishing (even Massawa sea side restaurants run out of fish), no new infrastructure, hardly anything changed, even not a single new high school in Asmara. No new politics or political culture, no new methods of working – many offices still use type writers. You kidding me? You can be out 30 years from Eritrea, go back today, you’d feel you left a week ago. My last visit was 2019.

      • Dongolo

        Selam Haile TG. I have spent more time in Eritrea over the past 30 years than I have spend outside of the country. What percentage of the past 30 years have you spend inside of Eritrea? When you visited in 2019, what locations outside of Asmara did you visit and how long did you stay? Are you asserting that Eritrea has remained static for 3 decades? Do you believe that the diaspora generation(s) that has spent decades in the U.S. (for example) have a great understanding Eritreans living in Eritrea and their needs? Again, please keep in mind that the average age in Eritrea is 19.2 years old.

        • haileTG

          Dear Dongolo,

          I am asserting that Eritrea has remained static for 3 decades. Prove me wrong and I will support you all the way. You can’t. Give me just one area of life that moved forward (I will list many that went backwards). The country has not changed over the 3 decade and you will not be able to prove otherwise.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile TG. Absolutely no country, even one under a dictatorial leadership, remains static for 3 decades, for changes however undesirable, have definitely occurred. Thing is, attacking PMAA and riding the TPLF sympathy card as part of a strategy to implant an also advanced aged U.S. backed diaspora Government implant, is simply ill advised and will never be accepted by Eritreans inside Eritrea.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Dongolo,

            That is the problem! No country would be static. Eritrea is static and frozen in time. This is your thread, I am asking you to please tell me what has changed in Eritrea? Nothing. Things got naturally older and disintegrated, yes. But other than that Eritreans are doing nothing new they didn’t do 3 decades ago. That is a fact and obliterate the core of your entry to this thread.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile HG. Along with very significantly changed cultural values and norms, Eritrea’s population has increased almost 40% over the past 30 years whereas its percentage of urban population has increased from 26% to 63%. Someone making a short visit from abroad, cannot even began to fathom changes that have occurred over 30 years, most of which have been negative. By the way, just prior to liberation in 1991, no fish were making their way to Asmara (as was the case for fuel) for the Massawa-Asmara road was closed.

          • haileTG

            Hey Dongolo,

            Population increase? Thank PFDJ for all the encounters that resulted in pregnancy! The Asmara fish market was long there and served better. Did you think Enda Asa was built by PFDJ? Fuel was regular in gas stations all over in Derg. We never heard of filling up in back alley before PFDJ. You see you can’t name a single tangible change. Not even internet. I rest my case.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile TG. You obviously have no idea what Asmara nor Eritrea were like during the last years of the Derg; maybe you were in the U.S. by that time. A country is much defined by her culture and her people and that has obviously changed in ways that would be impossible for one that has spent decades abroad to fully comprehend and appreciate.

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            No. I was there. Please come up with tangible change. I am saying none happened. That is a FACT.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile TG. So you are saying that you were in Asmara buying fish and fuel in early 1991? Trust you are familiar with the terms Tangible Culture and Intangible Culture. A country and her people’s change in a span of 3 decades is obvious and best understood by people living in the country and not by those living outside of it.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Dongolo,

            I wasn’t there during the liberation of Massawa but I was there during the Derg time pretty much.

            You are making it sound as if EPLF / PFDJ did some lab experiment and created fish in a lab.
            Did you forget that fish and fuel comes from Massawa. Fish from the Redsea and fuel from the Massawa port.

            And you don’t know the reason why? It’s because EPLF was controlling Massawa and the road to Asmara.

            But HaileTG is correct. PFDJ build nothing except housing complex enda Korea in Asmara / Massawa.

            The population growth, just compare Eritrea with other similar countries in the region. It’s not high at all, it’s because the life expectancy has changed for the entire world population with readily available vaccines because of WHO and other medical advances and accessibility.

            Can you name how many of the factories that were operational still work today? And how many people are employed in those factories?

            What job creation has occurred in PFDJ Eritrea that allowed people to accumulate wealth, to build homes, own cars, improve standard living.

            There are many, many people who were farmers in the village come to the city and acquired skills or business or wealth and changed their lives and their family.

            Eritrea under PFDJ has turned into a parasite state, sucks everything out of its citizens without giving anything back.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe Y. Thanks for you comments, most of which I agree with. No doubt Eritrea population would have been higher had it not been for the war and a brutal dictatorship which motivated significant population exodus. My point that I am trying to make with Haile TG is that changes within Eritrea (inc. culture, values & norms) have obviously occurred over the past 3 decades and these cannot t be fully appreciated by someone that has lived abroad for decades. In regards to Massawa 1991, I was at the front of the pack that entered into Asmara on the morning of May 24th, so I know well that Asmara’s fish market and fuel stations were not working at that time nor was there any electricity in the city outside the limited scope of some Derg compounds.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Dongolo,

            At least you are getting it somehow. The fact that we are comparing Eritrea today and conclude that it’s worst off than it was under the occupation says a lot.

            If change cones from inside Eritrea, the better. But until that comes, what do you suppose this Eritreans who are outside suppose to do. Just leave alone the regime to continue its brutality against Eritreans inside the country.

            As to the fact, Eritreans who were abroad for 30 do not know the people or the culture I think it’s totally misplaced. The people that are running Eritrea, at least those in paper for the most part were outside (some in meda and others as hafash wudubat) but that didn’t stop them from leading the country.

            But do you think Eritreans who are abroad are totally detached, and they don’t know or not able to contribute?

            Based on my observations, actually the problem is the opposite. It’s that Eritreans can not detach themselves from their country and sometimes against their own advantage.

            Anyway the fact that most Eritreans opppse the regime not because they want to rule or their kind to rule but because they are denied, Justice and the rule of law.

            If the regime would have done that, I can tell you starting from me, I would have supporting them (as I did in the past) and the most majority of Eritreans would have done the same.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe Y. Thanks for your comments. I believe that diaspora Eritreans should play an instrumental role in supporting, facilitating and guiding much needed change in Eritrea but that they should not be part of a Western supported/forced implanted Government or a GiE, for change (hopefully peaceful) must come from within. Diaspora Eritreans are never disconnected from Eritrea but after being decades outside of Eritrea, their role in Eritrea’s internal leadership dynamics becomes highly unrealistic for a number of reasons, namely that we need younger blood to surface from within that is not tainted by old political rivalries. And while I believe that many diaspora Eritreans genuinely desire much needed change back home, others from old political camps, simply wish to usurp power by any means and at any cost -opposition groups which sided with the TPLF for almost 2 decades in a failed attempt to overthrow the PIA/PFDJ regime- leave an everlasting memory in this regard. But like my friend once said: Opinions are like **sholes in that everyone has one….and mine might be completely off the mark..

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Dongolo,
            So the diasporas are only useful for 25%? Nice!
            There is no way change will come from within. Reason, DIA has involved all his subordinates in criminal activities [with a record] to make sure they don’t betray him. If he is gone, they are gone. That’s how threaten them.
            If DIA dies, there will be another dictator from within, unless the change comes from outside.
            I don’t believe you are saying this because you really believe it but with a hidden agenda.

            ተገጣጢምና ‘ለና።
            ዝገርመኒ ናይቶም ካልኦት ከምኡ ‘ሎም ዝኣምኑ።
            ኢሳያስ ክርትም ኢሉ ክስሕቕ ከሎ ተራእዩኒ።
            ሓቁ!

          • Dongolo

            Selam መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. To the contrary, I am convinced that change will come within. Not all amongst the ‘frozen’ in Asmara are very old and decrepit though, many use medical reasons to frequently travel abroad for ‘treatment’ and the collective power of these folks should not be underestimated. Wish I could go into more details but I cannot for reasons that should be obvious to you. Along with the ‘frozen’ are significant numbers of more junior officers that have said enough is enough. Too bad that the earlier -short lived borders with Ethiopia were closed, for those open borders were one huge security challenge for the PIA/PFDJ regime.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Dongolo,
            I guess you are more optimistic than me but I really can’t imagine that will come. To me that is more of 03 propoganda to divert from any concrete change, from outside. In that way, it gives falls hope to some naive people.
            I really wish I am wrong on this but it doesn’t seem that way.

          • haileTG

            Dongolo,

            Massawa fell in February 91. That is called temporary blockade due to fighting. Derg was in Eritrea 74-91 there was fish and fuel 74 – January 91.

            If Eritrea goes back to 1990, it will be better off today. If Ethiopia, Rwanda, Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania… go back to 1990, they will be worse off. That is what it means to have remained static for 3 decades.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile TG. For you to assert that Eritrea would be better off in 1990 under Derg control than today says it all. I do not disagree with you on the poor state of affairs in Eritrea today nor on it’s lack of progress over the past 3 decades. Where I disagree with you is that change in Eritrea must come from within and not from a group of aged diaspora Eritreans in the form of a Western supported implanted Government. A look at who is not supporting the GiE initiative is a telling story in this regard.

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            Eritrea would have better structural installations in 1990 doesn’t mean Eritrea wishing occupation. It means just that there’s no progress. On the cultural and values you are arguing for, Eritreans use to respect their elders during derg, now you’re are not showing that. The first time I saw a young man slap an elderly person in the face was a young tegadalay at Asmara Airport in 1991. Cultural decay is also another big fall. Dongolo, I don’t blame you for any of that. This is a chance to reflect and appreciate reality as it is facing us.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile TG. Thanks Haile TG and noted. I am not asserting that cultural and moral values have progressed for to the contrary, I believe that they have notably declined, especially post Badme war. Whilst we seem to agree on principles for the need for urgent change in Eritrea’s governance, we are oceans apart when it comes to means to effect such change. On the side, funny how many during the Derg regime reminisced about how things were much better during the U.S./Emperor’s time, whilst many before that reminisced how things were better during Italian occupation.

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            The good old days is a common catch phrase as an expression of nostalgia. We are saying here that a generation was wasted without anything to pass on to the next. Why was that? I am glad you agree on the failed and costly regime we have. Choice of government is individual right. You may prefer one type and I may prefer a different type. But attempting to nullify the rights of millions of diaspora from meaningful participation in the political life of their country is unacceptable and the result of doing so is the embarrassment we now have of 3 decades disappearing into thin air with no progress and huge distress. You must respect the rights of all Eritreans to form their own opinions and work to materialize it. The people in Eritrea are under siege from the regime. National service are forced to fight a war, be killed and wounded for no gain. Which side of history are you in. With us or against us 😀

          • saay7

            Selamat all:

            Aged 😂

            I wonder if the NNNN know that all their heroes, despite their attempts to carry their placards from their former years, are in their 70s and the dictator of the universe is going to, and is, calling them home: to be wrapped in ሚትሮ ዓለባ and dumped 6 feet under and that, like Derg, nobody except their immediate family members will remember them fondly.

            Karma is a bitch and karma has a long list of the 100s of thousands of people they victimized. No matter how obtuse you are, you should know you are on the wrong side of history when you find that your allies are Derg remnants: the cluster bombers or civilians.
            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. Regarding ‘Aged’ has your GiE initiative been fully successful in getting the support from Yiakl and the likes of Selam Kidane? Is not the ELF as one of the organizational foundation blocks of the GiE older on average than PIA and his inner circle?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selma Dongolo,

          Speaking about the need of People inside:

          1 – to reign constitutional laws and rule of law, to see a sense of justice, where every citizen feels safe to go everywhere in his country without intimidation.

          2 – to stop modern slavery what Adhanom G/Mariam (RIP) use to call it “ወፍሪ ባርነት” – an endless slavery in the name of national service.

          2 – To let the people do their own lives b/c the regime controls every aspect of their lives, that includes where to go, what to speak, and what to eat.

          3 – to stop snatching their love ones and throwing them in foxholes without seeing a day in the court of law.

          4 – to give them the freedom of ሕረስ-ሓራሳይ ንግድ-ነጋዳይ. Once they allow them this freedom, all the Eritrean entrepreneurs scattered all over the world will come back to create jobs for salary workers.

          5 – To allow foreign and domestic investors to bring the necessary of development to the nation and its people.

          These are few of the many needs.

          Now the question to you is : what do they need more than these basic needs (apolitical needs), what you think we don’t know their needs?

          • Dongolo

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat. Your missing the point. Whilst Eritrea’s basic needs are clear they must be achieved from within the country (with support of diaspora Eritreans) and not via a Western powered/implanted group of aged diaspora Eritreans that have been abroad for 3 or 4 decades.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dongolo,

            Unfortunately, when you are caught, you don’t know even how to retreat. This was your question to Haile-TG that I was trying to address it.

            “ Do you believe that the diaspora generation(s) that has spent decades in the U.S. (for example) have a great understanding Eritreans living in Eritrea and their needs?”

            I was trying to show you the needs of our people that we are voicing for them. Tell us what are the needs of our people that we don’t know? Don’t make foolish argument please. We know the needs of our people that the regime has denied for them.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat haileTG
        How hypocrite these guys are. They have been recruiting YPFDJ that never seen Eritrea, at the same time asking people who are born & grow up in Eritrea?
        Hasadat.

        • haileTG

          ደሓን መሃንድስ ዓቢ ሰብ

          ዓሻ ወደቦኻ ክልብም’ሲ ዓቢ ሃብቲ ኢልና ንተዓገሶም እምበር ወሪዱና ዘሎስ ኣይግድን!

        • Barrole

          Selam MM,

          You are smelling the sent of fear and hasada, like you mentioned. Terati nagoyaye maxiO. Entay didliyom eritrawian aytefoltonEkhom ilina. Dehin nesatom yefeltokeynom, selimentay iyo minesey yehadimzelo?

          Logic = 0

      • Dongolo

        Selam haile TG. Just curious. You say that you last visited Eritrea in 2019 at which time you say you zig zagged across the country. Am I right to assume that you pay your 2% diaspora tax to the PFDJ in order to secure your entry visa? And, with internal travel permits being a difficult and often a lengthy process, as a known entity in the opposition camp, did you face great difficulty in regards to your internal movement within the country?

        • haileTG

          Hi Dongolo,

          Good questions, you have been away too long:)

          – you don’t need to pay the 2% ransom if you don’t need service.

          – you don’t need entry visa if you have ID card

          – yes life is as restricted as for everyone else, except you have more money.

          – you need your ID to travel internally and your local friends need additional paper work to show they are NS released. That is if they encounter check points, that is not there sometimes.

          – finally, corruption is sky high and many things are doable with cash.

          Bonno Viaggio on your trip:)

          • Dongolo

            Selam haile TG. LOL. I’ll give you an ‘A’ for your creativity , humor and dodgeball capacity:). You must be one of a handful of outsiders that has been able to zig zag across Eritrea and move outside of Asmara to witness the extensive new road networks, bridges and more than 780 dams/reservoirs that have been constructed over the past 30 years.

          • haileTG

            Hey Dongolo,

            Oh…how could I forget. It is just invisible. Show us to believe you. What are of life progressed in 30 years? Facts please.

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. Show us? Your the one who said you zig zagged across Eritrea in 2019! Give credit where credit is due, one of the successful things that the dictatorial PIA/PFDJ government has done besides health and road/bridge works has been soil & water conservation activities, namely dam/reservoir construction.
            https://m.facebook.com/EritreanPresss/posts/915-dams-and-water-reservoirs-in-eritrea19-aug-2019-ep-give-credit-where-credit-/1069767106549216/

          • Dongolo

            Selam HaileTG. As you are well aware, one criticism levied against the GiE is its lack of transparency. In this regard, can you kindly and in transparent terms, advise of the latest in refards to how the GiE is being received by Yiakl and the likes of Selam Kidane? Thanks for your earnest and honest reply.

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            I use to think the Eritrean regime was not transparent, now I know that they are transparent, except they have nothing to show. It is like they’re showing you “nothing” because that’s all they have and we insist we haven’t seen anything because we can’t grasp that nothing is something in this case…phew that was deep:-)

            Now to your question, the person who doesn’t like a bus ride could be:

            1 – one who doesn’t like the travel

            2 – one who doesn’t like the bus

            3 – one who doesn’t like the sit offered

            4 – one who doesn’t like who is riding with them

            Those people whome you mention are on #3 above. PFDJ goons are on #1, the AI movement is on #2, those who appear in regime activities and functions but tell you the always opposed like Tsige-Roma (whome there are many) are on #4 because they don’t want be seen on opposition side.

            I hope this is honest and expansive enough:)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Let me add one more
            5- one who doesn’t trust or like the driver.

          • haileTG

            Hey guad Abi,

            Isn’t that the same as #3? Or one of the other indirectly? Negern eko dictator gora kegeba yesew ye logic hail yidemesesal:)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            I disagree . I rather ride with a driver I trust than a comfortable seat offered to me. The skill and experience of the driver is of paramount importance.
            Let me add one more to your list
            6- The bus has a broken engine, broken transmission, ወዘተርፈ…
            በቃ ምን ልበልህ the bus is a rolling piece of junk.
            You should avoid this bus at any cost.

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. Use of animated characters might have given your response more credibility. A GiE whose transparency is questionable and one that lacks support from the primary youth opposition movement(amongst others), obviously is facing major problems in regards to legitimacy and credibility

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Dongolo,
            I am surprised you have asked about transparency. I would have thought for any hgdf supporter not dare to ask at least about these words: Constitution, democracy, justice, transparency, etc.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat haileTG
            Since you mentioned about nothing, enjoy this episode 🙂
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUWiv5r_CZw

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ዶንጎላ
      በዓል ንስኻ ወደኽደኽ ብስድራይ ከተሽካዕልሉ ዓመታት ሓሊፉ።
      ንዓኻን ከማኻን ስነስርዓት ዘለዎ መልሲ ስለዘይረደኣኩም ቡንባባኖ ኮሊስካ ተፈንጀር ይብለካ። ደምኩም ብሕስድና ስለዝተነድቀ።
      ገንዘብካ!

      • Dongolo

        Selam መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. What I am largely observing is that a group of desperate diaspora Eritreans are now (In my opinion) shamefully trying to capitalize on a purely TPLF created crisis in Tigray to ride a U.S. forced diaspora generated – implanted Government. Question is, do you really believe that Eritreans inside of Eritrea that totally distrust and hate the TPLF will willfully submit to foreign spawned diaspora leadership implant that has and continues to sympathies with the TPLF?

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          ዶንጎላ
          My family’s misery has nothing to do with the US or TPLF. Why are you diverting to that?
          As far as I am concerned, HGDF is the only entity killing my family and destroying my country. You seem to belong to them [according to your comments] and that makes you my country’s enemy. What is your response to that?

          • Dongolo

            Selam መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. My response is that I truly sympathize with your family’s misery and hope that PIA/PFDJ regime change can transpire as soon as possible.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Dongolo,
            How is DIA can change when he has these many strong supporters? Have you thought of that?

        • Abi

          Dongolo
          What is interesting is those who missed the chance to hitch a ride on a Tplf tanks are hoping to catch a Tplf hearse to Asmara.
          Dead or alive, Tplf is a means of arriving at Asmara.
          Now that is what I call reliability!!!!
          “እንኳን ቆሜ ብቀበርም
          እኔ ያላንቺ አልኖርም”
          ብሏል ዘፋኙ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            You are one of those Derg riffraffs. To you this is a game.
            Ask your compatriots like Shaleqa Dawit W. & Tamrat L. and you will probably come to your sense.
            You have no humanity at all. That I would say is a curse.

          • Abi

            Dearest MM
            If you slow down a bit you will avoid self contradicting . Wasn’t Shaleqa Dawit the face of አብዮታዊ ደርግ in the former vibrant and beautiful Eritrea? Derg has always been fondly remembered by the best and brightest resident analysts at Awatenation!!! From the little information I gathered here, Eritrea was almost ምድራዊ ገነት during አብዮታዊ ደርግ .
            However, the future is a whole lot brighter!!!
            The derg riffraffs are coming back to reclaim their oceanfront property!!!!!

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            When you assess someone for failure, you compare them with the worst they couldn’t better compared to. Not with the best of the league. For example, we say you are so not smart that a donkey is smarter than than you. Now, you don’t expect the latter going around and saying it is the smartest of all. It was used for retrograde comparison. IA is compared to Derg, take it as such:-)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Comparing an አድጊ to people is a little bit too old fashioned. May be it is still a trend in some remote parts of the world. Tell me more.
            During አብዮታዊ ደርግ
            Salaries paid on time— no stipends
            Pensions paid on time— no pension
            Accredited university— Sawa boot camp
            Plenty of Scholarships — Say what!!!
            Consumer goods were readily and cheaply available through the ቀበሌዎች . Now, you have to send በርሜል full of ሽሮ/ በርበሬ/ ቡና ( only if you are current on your 2% voluntary tax.

            I don’t like writing pages. You know it all. You have delivered pages of hateta on these matters. I learned a lot about the past and current Eritrea from honest people like you.
            You can’t compare Derg with IA just like you can’t compare አድጊ with people .
            ጏድ አቢ
            ኢሠፓ ማዕከላዊ መምሪያ

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Abo,

            Thank you, nice and keep going and don’t come down.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮባችን
            It is always great to see you actively involved in the dialogues.

          • haileTG

            Abichu that was just metaphor, you know me better than that. The facts you listed are spot on. Forget the donkey 🤣

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            I just like giving you hard times when I get a chance:)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Abi,
            When I mentioned Shaleqa Dawit & Tamrat, I meant to say their position regarding to the little dictator, colonel Abi. Both said he is evil and lier.
            You can’t compare DIA to anyone because he is the worst of the worst recent dictators.

          • Abi

            Dearest MMo
            Ok, I heard you. Now, you may sit down.

          • Peace ToAll

            The son of Derg and ESEPA member, you can dream but you will never achieve it. Do not forget that the Ankoberites burial time is approaching. This time you will be handled by the OLF

          • Abi

            ሰላም Peace ToAll
            ምነው የጋማ ከብት ይመስል ዝም ብለህ ትቀላቀላለህ?? መጀመርያ ዝቅ ብለህ እጅ መንሳት ተማር::
            ይህ እንደ አለሌ አህያ ማናፋት ሰላምታ ከመሰለህ እጅጉን ተሳስተሃል::

          • no one

            Satenau,

            Before celebrating Welkait the ” devil” America came and said Amhara Fanu and Liue Haile are doing ethnic cleansing in western Tigray,therefore they should leave immediately. What do you feel about that?.

          • Abi

            ሰላም ጆቢራው!
            no one should be intimidated by the “devil”. Also, no one is leaving ወልቃይት!!

        • Barrole

          Dongolo,

          What I’m observing is Derg remnants trying call everyone in the opposition a TPLF sympathiser. If you are an Eritrean, then what about calling you sellouts out, for selling out to the current Ethiopian government? Why the ones you keep slandering haven’t called you out is difficult for me to fathom.

          Go back to your 50 birr Addis Street hooker. That is the best you’ll experience.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Barrole. Kudos bud for being able to insult without consequence, for if I were to have said the same thing that you have, I would no doubt be quickly banned.

          • Barrole

            Dongolo,

            You are a bully, and you have been bullying the forumites for quite some time without consequences. Your purpose in this forum, your only purpose in this forum, is to slander the participants good name and abuse their initiative to better Eritrea for Eritreans.

            You speak up for the Ethiopian Jin in every opportunity you get. Why is that? He has yet to complete his training to transform into a shaytan like our DIA who said that Eritrea will perhaps get a democratic election in 30 years. Just maybe….

            You fear us, the Eritrean diaspora, because we are resourceful and can make you and your band of misfits obsolete in an instant. Eritreans back home regardless of their ethnic group, or religious beliefs, would celebrate our arrival. But, perhaps you’re the kind that believes it when the hooker tells you she loves you? This is perhaps why you think Eritreans back home favours you.

            That said, you are right that personal attacks are wrong and I agree to stop, but only if you apologise to the forumites and better yourself.

          • Dongolo

            Dear Barrole. You tell me ‘Go back to your 50 birr Addis street hooker. That is the best you’ll experience’ and ‘perhaps you’re the kind that believes it when the hooker tells you she loves you’. Wow,wow, wow…I guess I really don’t understand posting guidelines.

          • Barrole

            Hello Dongolo,

            Your reading comprehension failed you yet again, or is it your selective memory in action? What ever it is, you should practice what you preach.

            It is not like you’re following the posting guidelines when your sole reason for participating is to belittle the forumites and slander them with baseless accusations. Is harassment allowed when you do it? Do you get my drift, Dongolo?

            When the bully cries for being bullied…… at least learn to take some heat.

            In any case, let us stop out of respect for the founders and their members.

            I would like you to answer the question you were given. You conveniently skipped it, as expected.

            You obviously support AA, based on countless posts you’ve made. You write about Eritrea without hindrance, but call AA “PMAA” and never engage in negative conversations about him, or Ethiopia in general, besides the usual belittling of Tigrayans.

            Explain why an Eritrean, who according to yourself, lived there and seemingly is part of the system, has an easier time badmouthing his own leadership than Ethiopian counterpart and country?

            We have been told to focus on Eritrean affairs by you previously and leave the Ethiopian issues to Ethiopians. Taking care of others house before your own…. it just doesn’t add up.

            Looking forward for your explanation.

    • Brhan

      Hi Donglo,
      The winds of change started in the early 90s and continued when DIA was writing romantic letters with the late PMMZ on a piece of paper ( and not in a gov’t letter with a logo). Relating the change with TPLF is a lost card. A. Ahmed Ali tells us that they have become like flour. Sorry, a Hindu ( no offense to the belief) believes a flesh turned to ashes will come back in other creatures, like a cow!

      That wind continued to blow and reached everywhere and made most of the Diaspora from pro gov’t to anti-gov’t and its policies. You know the song that says Nsa Msay Lba Gn ms Debesay, so the Diaspora, like any other country’s Diaspora, has been attached to the home country. I think you are young and might not have info about the significant role of the Eritrean Diaspora played during the struggle for our independence, or you deny it. It is the same Diaspora that is raising its voice for a change.
      The other fact about the Eritrean Diaspora is that the many thousands of young men and women who left Eritrea a few years ago are now participating in large numbers in leading the movement of changes.
      Last but not least, If you are outside, I believe you are outreaching your folks to know many things, including Eritrean political satire, or if you are inside, you might be the teller. This is a global village, my friend as Marshal McLuhan said.

    • said

      Greeting,
      Dongolo
      Call us “yesteryear” old people have no wisdom to contribute and they can not relate to the young Eritrean youth and Boy Scout and they are disconnected from Eritrean present reality .i understand your disdain and hate for old people ,they are useless ,they are dead than alive it seems long enough in the western countries that some people do not value old people.

      I am sure and recall the French Revolution, when some 2,100 old Rich Aristocrats were beheaded dictatorships and World War 2, you read fascism and dictatorship leading to the death of more than 50 million human beings. what do you think tens of Eritrean death was caused by what ? what do you think about war in Tigray where tens of thousands of people are killed and starved daily. who do you blame in part just be honest Politically speaking, since you are good observer , old people their vision from ancient country and history is vogue ,they can not match yours and they do not know Eritrea and you live in modern times:
      You can list the achievement of IA easily tell them. the progress Eritrea made of the last 30 years and proof them all stupide , they are wrong ,tell them about Eritrean space Technology, soon to be lunched and update them with super achievement you know about, tell them the about youth didn’t have a plan to change PFDJ government itself.
      Tell them the name of Eritrean billionaires ,who are in the top list of Forbes 500 surpassing many countries like Hong Kong’s ,Singapore , Kuwait, Qatar, UAE and many others advanced countries and list them Eritrean Giant Corporations and World Bank offices in Asmara run by your beloved PFDJ government efficiently and what you say above more and more realistic by day ? Eritrea have changed urban poor become rich , rural poor they super rich , highly educated class in the world and it is Ethiopia will not change?

      The old people are confused about this two countries “Eritrea is world’s democracy” .an envy of the world. And lifted more than 5 million people out of dire poverty. With IA we completely have new system an heard off. the world must learn from him. something that would be possible only through the master IA a genuine and genius selfless with new manifesto of 21 social revolution.An heard off .IA is working to uproot existing global economic structures, including a United Nations where a handful of countries have veto power.
      Eritrean old people have dim view and till them to stay put and they do not know about stay up all night and party, tell them to listen to their old song Beatles’ soundtracks (“All You Need Is Love” and “Can’t Buy Me Love”) they use listen Asmara Qunio Radio station

      Your master DIA that you admire and you can mimic his language to help you and to use it IA method without being soft in your written her, you can learn by having a dozen or so vocabulary words that IA understands and uses regularly of his street language, I do not have in Tigrinya translation ,first no morality and ethics, as his true self, his tirades, scolding’s, misrepresentations of fact , berating’s, lies , monolithic, brittle, degrading, insulting, ridiculing, impersonations his enemies , ugly diatribes, disapprovals of every one , jeremiads, , rants, liposuctions, subversions, soliloques, false lectures, criticisms, abasements, bitterness’s, debasement of comrade your DIA knows nothing of anything .Tell them that was the OLD IA ,in past and he has being transformed by miracle and I for one I believe you .

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ብሓንጎለይ ተቐሺሸ
    ኣይነገረንን ‘ቲሓቂ
    ከምዚ’ዩ ዝሓሸ
    ናበለ
    ብኣፉ ካልእ በንጻሩ ብግብሪ
    ተሓዋዊሱኒ

    ኣነን ሓንጎለይን በበይኑ
    ብሰንኪ ዝሰባብ ሓንጎል
    ቁመናይ ተዓይኑ
    ትርጉም ሂወት ስኢኑ
    መንነተይ በኒኑ
    ስለምንታይ
    መትከል-ኣልቦ ስለዝኾንኩ

    ሂወት ብዘይመትከል
    ትርጉም ስለዘይብሉ
    ምንባር

  • Halaf Mengedi

    Greetings Awetawian 🙂
    What do you think about the Reuters investigation published June 7.
    Search for report: “How ethnic killings exploded from an Ethiopian town”. Sorry, for the spam if this was already discussed here.

    I think this is one of the most balanced and believable reports. May peace reign supreme on the region.

    Halaf Mengedi

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam HM,

      እምበር ሓላፍ መንገድ! Thank you for making us aware about the Reuters investigative report. It is a gruesome report. The question now is, how could these two ethnics live together after killing each other? Second if the Amara either kill or expel the tigrians from the farming property, why do they complain when the Oromo did the same thing against the Amara in Southern and western of Ethiopia? Now I want the forumers taking this question as a leading to the Issue, formulate a debate as to what will be the fate of Ethiopia in the foreseeable future.

      Regard

      • Hashela

        Selam Saleh

        It would be useful if reasonable people familiar with the history of northwestern Ethiopia chronicle for us the changing hand of the region and ensuing displacements and settlements throughout over the last 100-120 years. The current re-occupation of northwestern by Amhara authority and re-settlement of Amhara farmers can not be seen decoupled from TPLF’s occupation and displacement over the last 25 years.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hashela,

          You always don’t answer the questions posed to the forumers. If you want to give your opinion, you don’t have to do it under this thread. You could open your own thread, if you want. If you have a problem to understand the questions, check it with your personal contacts and come back with your answers.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            I think that my request for chronicles of this region fits very well in this thread.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hashela,

          Unlike yourself who engaged in war clapping to burry your enemy (an Individual who can’t identify the real enemy of our people), I was crying for my people of being thrown in to a refugee camps, being exposed to organ harvesters in the Sinai dessert, being drawn in the high sea, and many more. I was and is standing against the border war and the current war of invasion. I was aware part of this invasion was to attack the refugee camps and take the Eritreans for his military recruit against their will. I believe Eritreans are more safe in Tigray than in Eritrea. Issayas knows very well this truth, except he plays with your mind to use you for his propaganda consumption. The naives like yourself could not understand how he is playing with your mind. If your education can not help you to know the strategy of Issayas and what he is up to, in the last 30 years, since the birth of our nation, then politics is not for you. Stay with the profession you are trained with, for your living.

      • Brhan

        Selam Professor Amanuel,
        A perfect point. It is a double standard, and DIA is involved in it. His troops are fighting against the Oromo, demanding their lands taken by the Amhara return to them. DIA is making Ethiopia’s future looking bleak.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          ሰላም ኩሉ-ብርሃን,

          ብኽንደይ ዳንከራ እንዳ ኣጣቅዑ ተቀቢሎሞስ: ደም እንዳተፋሰሱን እንዳ በኸዩን ከአ ክገድፎም’ዩ:። ዘገርም እኮ’ዩ:: If you welcome an evil man to your internal affairs, the result of it will be the things we are watching.

          Regard

          • haileTG

            Selam Aman H,

            To the rest of Ethiopia’s population all Tigrigna speaking are Tigrie. This made it into a tragic mistake for PMAA to involve Eritrea. Perhaps he doesn’t understand some of the scary and disturbing anti Tigray sentiment in highland Eritrea ‘s Tigrigna. I hope no one makes that blunder again and keep the two peoples apart till they calm down.

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile TG

            as you probably know, I have a weakness for high altitude backpacking and hikes.
            Recently (pre-covid), I was in Central Asia. Reaching the summit and having an incredibly beautiful and vast view, my local guide (with a PhD in the hard sciences) pointed to the territory of a neighboring country and told me “there live the worst people of the planet” :-).

            I think we are doing well with our neighbors.

          • haileTG

            Selam Hashela,

            First, I wish I was there! It sounds a nice time.

            Now, I agree with your point that both our peoples hurt each other at different times for different reasons. We can go back to 98/2000, the Derg times, the armed struggle when EPLF-TPLF fell out, the HS era, the 40s, the mesafint era, and beyond. Whichever incident(s) rock anyone’s boat, the fact is that the relationship hasn’t been one to be desired. This means that it is open for exploitation at any junction for expediency.

            There are forces who agitate for mistreatment of the other on each side and forces who would like to overcome that for expedient political solution to other problems. So far, the hasn’t been honest brokers who sought to usher an era of harmony and mutual understanding. EPLF/TPLF worked together for expediency and turned on each other’s throat when they moved on from their individual problems.

            Again, the same is happening now, alliances sought and distances formed, depending on one’s stand. And of course, the miseries we see. PMAA and most other Ethiopians may not have intimate understanding of the issues other than some broad notion. In fact they may reduce it to some small political power games and not as a deep historical and psychological animosity. “The worst people on the planet” is much milder than what I heard and keep hearing among our ranks. I can only assume similar holds on the other side.

            We need a good uninterrupted 50 or so years of peace to renew the bad blood and create some semblance of modesty. If the Ethiopians misunderstand and switch alliances later, however, history may repeat itself and it would be back to square one.

          • Barrole

            Selam Haile TG,

            Well said!

            I would like to contribute by mentioning that Tigringa speakers as a whole, not just Tigrayans, are being treated as second class citizens in Ethiopia. Shhh, Tigringa keytezareb tebahile.

            We should pause for a moment to understand the gravity of feeling like an outsider in your own “country”. It is unacceptable, to say the least. We in the West have felt it, but since we are immigrants, or children of immigrants, we have learned to live with the sensation of being an outsider.

            Rest assured that the situation can, and most likely will, get worse.

            Will the election go smoothly? That is a rhetorical question. The only way for DIA’s apprentice AA to stay in power, is by election fraud/prevention. The support he had is even dwindling from his mane base, which obviously is the Amhara ethnic group.

            Awate will face more activity by the regular loudmouths, like Donqoro, come tell the forumites not get involved in the election and focus on Eritrean affairs. This while several forumites aren’t Eritrean and get involved in Eritrean affairs daily.

            Even PFDJ’s are jumping the sinking ship, and that should be expected when the self-proclaimed commander-in-chief seemingly want to give away Eritreas independence like he owned it.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Well Barolle,
            Let’s face the truth head on.
            The devil of Adi Halo owns Eritrea’s independence in reality. Let’s not pretend he doesn’t. He does.
            With the help of those idiot Colonels and generals of Adi Nifas [many of them] & Karneshim in genereal and those criminals of Hagerawi Tif’at generals of Segeneyti/DekemHare [Kassa, gebredingil, etc], and at most those snakes of Hgdef leaders at the top [Monkey, Kisha, etc] he totally owns it.
            First step is to admit, the devil DIA owns and runs Eritrea.

          • Barrole

            Selam MM,

            You are correct, no doubt about it.

            However, I believe the amount of collected evidence against DIA have reached a new high and that it can lead to him being toppled from within. I believe that Eritreas independence is greater than DIA irrespective of one’s political views for most Eritreans, including his henchmen.

            It is precisely what everyone that wished for a peaceful transition of power ever dreamed for, if it were to happen.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Let’s hope you are right, Barrole.
            Let’s hope so!

      • Halaf Mengedi

        Hello Amanuel,
        I think, they will continue to live side-by-side peacefully. It is a matter of time. My timeline is 6 months up to 2 years before things calm down. How do I know? Gut feeling :). I could bravely and blinding declare my optimism that peace is not that far away. To my credit (as if i have any), who predicted that Abi will come to power? Who predicted that Woyane with all the noise and and shallow bravado (now we know) could be pushed to Debebit mountains in a matter of weeks!!! Who predicted that the crazy devil PIA will go this far scarifying Eritrean souls and become the main war composer and orchestrator in northern Ethiopia? Long story short, no one seems to have a clue and every one is guessing. So, I am just exercising my guess right :). There are too many parameters and there is a single model which could predict what will happen next … may it be peace and it should be peace!

        Going back to to report, I don’t think this is is purely the work of Abi or the devil PIA. This is an outcome of many years animosity/injustice/misunderstanding/mismanagement. Had Woyane did the right thing when they could, this terrible tragedy would probably never come to pass. Actually, the report highlights Woyane/Tigray administrations role in the ugly initial crimes against innocent amaharas. As long as our reptilian/limbic brains continue to over-write our neocortex (the logical brain), this region will keep cycling between dark times like today over Tigray and the soon coming peaceful days. God have mercy on our incapability to do the right and logical thing as individuals, communities, countries, and region.

        My biggest fear/concern is the fate of the countless Eritreans in Tigray region. Given the real/imagined grievance Tigrains have against Eritreans, i fear what might be happening to the thousands Eritreans at their mercy. Tomorrow, when a peaceful sun shines over Tigray (It will it is a matter of time), we will know the details.

        Halaf Mengedi

        • Hashela

          Selam

          “ Given the real/imagined grievance Tigrains have against Eritreans, i fear what might be happening to the thousands Eritreans at their mercy.”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hashela,

            Unlike yourself who engaged in a war clapping to burry your enemy (an Individual who can’t identify the real enemy of our people), I was crying for my people of being thrown in to a refugee camps, being exposed to organ harvesters in the Sinai dessert, being drawn in the high sea, and many more. I was and is standing against the border war and the current war of invasion. I was aware part of this invasion was to attack the refugee camps and take the Eritreans for his military recruit against their will. I believe Eritreans are more safe in Tigray than in Eritrea. Issayas knows very well this truth, except he plays with your mind to use you for his propaganda consumption. The naives like yourself could not understand how he is playing with your mind. If your education can not help you to know the strategy of Issayas and what he is up to, in the last 30 years, since the birth of our nation, then politics is not for you. Stay with the profession you are trained with, for your living.

        • haileTG

          Selam Halaf Mengedi,

          Ethiopia has such land problems for ever. The Eritrean case is better because the Adi system bypass this problem. Do you think the zoba system destroying such a good legacy?

          • Halaf Mengedi

            Merhaba HaileTG,
            I think, the zoba system by itself might not be a bad thing. As they say the devil is in the details. So, the implementation mismanagement/corruption, and completely ignoring the stack holders … could bring much bigger problems and destroy the good legacy.

        • Brhan

          Hello HM,
          The good thing is that civilized nations such as the US and EU are taking the humanitarian issue very seriously and the only ones who are giving deaf ears are DIA and A. Ahmed Ali.

          • Halaf Mengedi

            Selam Brhan,
            US long term priorities are its interests. They might be working over-time to find a short term fix. Beyond that, it is business as usual and I don’t think they give ፋንድያ ኣድጊ about the plight of the people. If Abiy and PIA will listen and make cosmetic changes/change of heart/handling their subjects differently but aligned with US interests, it will be all good with them. Not necessary to people of Tigray.

            EU? Will probably agree with what ever US foreign policy dictates.

          • Brhan

            Selam Halaf Mengedi,
            When I read your comment I thought I am reading Hadas Eritrea’s editorial. በል መንገድኻ ቀጽል….

          • Halaf Mengedi

            Selam Brhan – kkkk is Hadas Eritrea still in circulation? Sorry, to bore you to death. They are my comments and reflect my understanding and view. You have all right to judge it in what ever way you want. You own your judgement and i own my comments …. a deail :).

          • Brhan

            Selam HM,
            Can you reflect in your understanding and view about US’s interest in the region?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Birhan nebsi,
            I found “በል መንገድኻ ቀጽል” very funny [no offense HM] 🙂

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam HM,

          You assessment is not different than the calculations of Issayas and Abiy. We shall see. But on your concern, at least, TPLF/TDF understand the difference between the Eritrean people and the regime of Issayas. They understand vividly that the Eritrean people are the victim of the regime for decades. Tsadqan’s confirmation to that effect is more than enough. But they can not control the fate of Eritreans in the areas EDF controls.

          Regard

    • Aman Y.

      Selam Halaf Mengedi
      For balance, they should have accounted the death on the Tirayan side numerically as well? All I read was about how many Amhara died, though, they reported Tigrians also died in retaliation.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate. com people,

    According to BBC Tigrinya, 4 hours ago, Mr. Osman Saleh, Eritrea’s foreign minister, wrote to the security council and said the following:
    1) The US has supported TPLF for the past 20 years
    2) The US is pointing its fingers at Eritrea for what is happening in Tigray
    3)The US is interfering and conspiring to create conflict and unrest
    4)According to the Washington Post, the goal of these US actions are to give life to the remnants of TPLF.

    Can we discuss the elephant in the room?

    • haileTG

      Hi Brhan,

      A mahout is an elephant rider. As the elephant is large and powerful, if it finds something it likes, it would stand and nothing can move it. The mahout knows how to cajole the elephant. Osman is acting as a poorly trained mahout:)

      • Brhan

        Hello Arkey haileTG

        Osman Saleh’s did not mention in his letter about Eritrean troops in Tigray.

        This is like a thief caught red-handed!

        The US is dealing with the issue of Tigray because A. Ahmed Ali failed to solve the problem internally and externally. The war in Tigray is continuing. Likewise, the clashes all over Ethiopia as being reported by many Ethiopians. Externally, the US senate resolution and the EU’s stand is a clear example that regardless of Ethiopia’s two “Ds,” diplomacy and Diaspora, he came out like, if I may borrow your word, poorly trained, mahout.

        • haileTG

          Selamat Brhan arkey,

          As I mentioned yesterday, IA will do everything in his power to sabotage Eritrea. Petros Solomon use to say that IA’s ministers had their jobs cut out for them to be constant fire fighters. The President keeps throwing fire and the ministers rush to try to douse the fire. Recently, the UN ambassador ST said that Eritrea was trying to help to stabilize the situation in Ethiopia. Although, we may disagree, she can still argue that point in a fairly rational manner. Then comes the fire starter, Osman sends a letter to the UN accusing the US being the one behind all the horrors and atrocities in Ethiopia. Obviously, all major media outlets are blaring that allegation today! What is the benefit for Eritrea by such ridiculous allegations? It hardens US and international players against Eritrea. More sanctions and more debilitating punishments. I don’t think IA did this by accident. He has always done all he can to provoke measures against Eritrea. It helps him to consolidate power and shift the focus. In any case, the problem in Tigray will take decades to resolve and that puts IA and his servants in their late 90s, if they get out alive, to see the outcome. This is a problem they hope to transfer to the next generation of Eritreans.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat haileTG
            If we believe DIA hates Eritrea and its people [which I do], the best country to provoke is the US. Maybe he is hoping for another sanction to decimate the whatever left economy.

          • haileTG

            Hello MM,

            Talking of the economy, according to the National Bank of Eritrea, despite the decades of wars, sanctions, migrations, blockades, the Nakfa is still holding at 15.50 Nakfa for $1 USD. It seems either it is a fake currency or the economy rooted on diga gerset is impenetrable:-)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat haileTG,
            I could ask Nakfa directly but I have heard it is under house arrest. For now, I would assume it is fake evaluation. It should even be lower than birr.
            That’s DIA’s way to bankrupt the diaspora.

          • Brhan

            MM Nebsi
            I see it the opposite. He is trying to convince his cult saying ” look now I am not fighting TPLF but the US so let us give up”. By this he is trying to cheat them to forget his past and present adventures. He is expecting them to say ” Isu , if not for the US, he would be the king of the horn of Africa! I will say the opposite of SGH in his usuaul ending of Negarit ኣይማሓርን ….لا رحمة

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Brhan nebsi,
            I was entertaining that idea as well but I am sticking to my theory, for now 🙂

          • Brhan

            MM Nebsi
            Sadat used it before, he said I am not fighting Israel but the US and many believed him and then he made a peace deal with Israel. Dictators seek sympathy from the oppressed when they know that the game is over for them.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ብርሃን ነብሲ

            ብዘይ ቡኛ ሰላም ዘይጠልብ
            ምስ ዘይመሳትኡ ዘብዝሕ ቀንጠብጠብ
            ኢዱ ከይሰንከለት ዘይገብር ኣደብ

            ከም ኣመንዝራታት ዓራት ክቐያይር
            ጉንዲ-እዝኑ ምስ ተጸፍዐ ጥራይ ‘ዩ
            ዝኣቱ ኣብ መስመር

            ወናኒ ስንኩል ሓንጎል
            ተዓሊቑና ክብል
            የሕሊፉ መዋእል
            ድሁል

          • Brhan

            መሃንዲስ – ምዕባለ
            ሓዝ በል ( ገርጊሩኒ እንከሎ)

            ምስ ኣመሪካ ተባኢሱ?
            ኣየ..ኢሱ
            ምኽንያት መተርኣሱ
            ወያነ እናበለ.. ኣደቂሱ
            ምእንቲ ነብሱ
            ኣንቱም “ንሕና ንሱ?
            ጣዖትኩም ዝሕሱ
            ገዘኣኩም ኣበሳቢሱ
            ደብይዎ ክትፍወሱ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ብርሃን ነብሲ

            ምሓዝ ጥራይ?
            ነኺሰ
            ዘሳወሮ ሓዊ
            ኩሉ ግዜ ንሰብ ምስከሰሰ

            ኢዱ ምስ ነደደ
            ነዚ ምርዳእ ዝስእኑ ሰብ ዕደ
            ንሕና-ንሱ ንሱ-ግን-ንሱ
            ጨና ፈረንጂ ዝቖጽርዎ ፈሱ
            ዋላ ፒ ኤች ዲ ተሰከሙ
            ብዘይ ሕፍረት መንግስትና ክብሉ
            ይገርሙ

            ናባኻ!

          • Brhan

            MM
            ኮኸብ ሰላም ኣበይ ኣለኻ
            ሃይለ (TG) እውን ደሃይ ግብር ኢኻ
            መሃንድስ ኣይተኸኣለን ንዑ ግጠሙ
            ወላ 3 ን 1 ግጠሙ!

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brhan,

            Yes, really. He is perfect, and you are also,
            I think he is going distance now.

            KS,,

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ኮኾባይ

            ናትካ ግጥሚ ናይ ማትኣ
            ናተይ ድማ ‘ንዳ ስዋ

            ኩሉ ግጥሚ መስሎ
            ናትካ ናይ ኣውስትርያ
            ናተይ ከኣ ናይ ዓዲ-ሃሎ

            ኣብ ናትካ ደርጃ ክበጽሕ
            ነዊሕ ለይቲ መዓስ ከምዝወግሕ
            ብጥዕግስቲ ‘ጽበ

    • said

      Thank you Br, Brhan . Leaving aside to what Mr. Osman Saleh, what wrote ,he is a puppet ,he have no say in the matter .

      If there was a peace with Eritrea, the current war in Tigray would never would happened ? TPLF claim without any legal basis,
      The end of TPLF ,was at the beginning of the border war ,TPLF at peak of its power ?
      Were they necessary war? Were they really wise? Were they even worth it and the cost ? last wk i wrote in length 3 opinion .
      the 2000 war moved TPLF into the unknown.
      The war in Tigray is catastrophe in April veteran Mulugeta Gebrehiwot, said: “the former administration of the TPLF has collapsed… The administrators just ran away.”
      Yes and probably TDF time is on their side as a result of their higher resilience, ENDF and its Amhara allies will not be able to contain the TDF, In light of the civil war in Tigray and growing conflict in Oromia and elsewhere . The OLA’s final goal is known: complete self-rule of Oromia.

      TPLF Historical blender and calamities. What do their legacies look like? What a grift that was!

      Badami rightfully belong to Eritrea. TPLF holding on Badema land parcels have little intrinsic value., Falsely claims as its own, it was grave mistake and politically it was catastrophe .TPLF leadership could not understand there was strategic value .Instead, this is about sheer Tigray ethnic narrow nationalism and flexing its muscle militarily power. Sadly TPLF forcibly incorporated Badami and the rest into its greater Tigray polity. no matter how fleetingly or how tenuously Badami was held. By TPLF aggressive militarizing of the largely uninhabited boarder with no strategically important to Tigray and of little consequence. TPLF resentment over its lost and stolen territory is still present in small TPLF nationalist circles.

      As Ethiopia PM MZ ,was he acting in behave of Ethiopia and he was able to pick and choose which land historically it wants to cite to justify its Tigray border belligerence. and meanwhile maintain TPLF forces separate from Ethiopian Army. State within state . PM MZ was not willing to stand up for what’s right and true — to stand up for sanity in the face of stupidity of his regime . TPLF made its claims with a straight face. Although basing domestic territorial claims on ancient configurations is hazardous at best

      Ethiopia were expansionist and conquered many land and it’s hardly a secret that , As PM MZ was he acting in name of Ethiopian imperial nationalism, to comfort his Ahmar partner and to confirm Ethiopian hegemony still in play and to control the vast territories that it claimed and for extravagant territorial claims. that can be presented to the Ethiopian public as triumphs, or was it for the interest of his birth place Tigray.
      PM MZ .inconsistencies and contradictions policy .And he never offered moral clarity, and no intellectual honesty?
      TPLF turned out to be nothing more than self-aggrandizing, politically dogmatic, irascible, self serving ,censorious, morally corrupt compromised Ethiopian and Tigrayan people who, at every opportunity, TPLF have propped up the powerful over the powerless, the privileged over the poor marginalized. This may sound crazy , but it’s not when, well, you look at the evidence?.
      And there are those with whom they will disagree with me .At end of the day ,Those of us who believe in truth & justice will prevail.

      TPLF knows very well, there should be no border dispute with Eritrea Over the millennia, Ethiopia has taken many geographical and political forms, and incorporated Somalia Ogden and other to south . Border disputes between South Korea, and Taiwan—also Japan with Russia have border issues. Indeed, such disputes are common throughout the world.

      Fast-forward to the present: The best way forward for the Tigrayan would be to establish a broad-based civil rights movement to mobilise their communities everywhere, using their great numbers to challenge systemic oppression and prevent further erosion of their rights.
      I stand with Tigrayan people and their right to defend themselves

      • Brhan

        Hi Said
        I did not finish your comment and I have to stop because you hardly said a word about the US factor? May be I have to put my question to you and all awate. com brilliant commentators again :Can we discuss about this US factor?

        • haileTG

          Hey Brhan,

          We’ll do soon! But for now, may be there are few elephants, not just one. Looking back at what I said, It sure looks to me I had a different elephant to the one you’ve in mind. HaramZ bezihomuna:-)

        • said

          Selam Brhan,

          I understand you have your reason in not completing in reading my comment and it was not related to your question US position.
          The best will be you answer your own question and I will summarize US Publicly available position .There is nothing new about US position that I know have changed and I am not qualified to know in depth the US position generally speaking. I commented in great length about US position in regard Ethiopia and there no need to repeated and publicly available US position I focused and I wrote about TPLF. Good well plunder . In regard US position ,Beyan Negash put two link in the weekend and US position is in public domain and widely reported and the list US took is known .
          The Ethiopian government should immediately provide access to humanitarian agencies. Eritrean forces should leave Ethiopian territory; Saleh’s short letter makes no mention of Eritrean troops in Tigray, despite international calls for them to withdraw. .US imposed wide-ranging restrictions on economic and security assistance to Ethiopia and US will bring our defense trade control policy in line with them.

          US will continue humanitarian assistance The United States reiterates its calls for a durable, political solution to the crisis. We are committed to supporting efforts to resolve the crisis in Tigray and help Ethiopians advance reconciliation and dialogue to overcome current divisions. The United States will continue its existing broad restrictions on assistance to Eritrea.. The origins of this crisis are political, the Ethiopian government should seek a broadly inclusive dialogue

          As reported The Biden administration is voicing increasing concern about the reported atrocities committed in Ethiopia’s Tigray region and continued restrictions and challenges for aid organizations responding to a crises. the U.S. Senate passed a resolution condemning “all violence against civilians” in Tigray and calling for the withdrawal of troops from neighboring Eritrea, Antony Blinken said. The time for action from the international community is now.
          “Humanitarians absolutely need unhindered access to populations in need, and we are concerned about the fact that there are populations that we haven’t yet been able to reach,” said Emily Dakin, the senior U.S. Agency for International Development official leading the U.S. response in Tigray.

          • Brhan

            Thanks, Said,

            I agree with you that the US is concerned about the humanitarian issue of Tigray. ( A. Ahmed Ali is busy with cutting ribbons) But the US is also demanding:

            1) cease fire 2) DIA and Amhara forces to withdraw from Tigray 3) PP and TPLF to sit and talk.

            While DIA says these demands will destabilize the region, A. Ahmed Ali only said the US is doing this because he is black, poor, and not a puppet prime minister.

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Brhan
            “Ethiopia is set to send a goodwill mission that seeks to appease the United States government into reversing its travel ban on high government officials, spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA), Dina Mufti said on Wednesday.” Reporter

            Abiy has been crazily running on a ribbon cutting spree. Journalists think he campaigning and trying to woo voters and garner support for the war in Tigray, by his speeches . While he inserts often the word “prosperity” in his speeches to promote his party, he says there are two obstacles against Ethiopian prosperity traitors and aliens, more than a double edged sword words.

            Most of the ground breaking and inaugural ceremonies are said to be, either ground breaking, for a project already stared by PMH or inaugurals for unfinished project. One wonders why he is ignoring the international community. IA was behaving somewhat similar when he expelled NGOs from Eritrea, visiting every little dam, farm and Irish bridge built.

            “This guy is not the right leader for this country.” That was the first time I heard a person utter such words in Eritrea. This was on a luncheon to celebrate the first harvest a certain project by the ministry of agriculture.

            The Ali Geder(Teseney) had invited the government and NGO workers from around. There were about hundred people in the hall. after waiting for some time, we were told he arrived and that we should greet him by the helicopter pad.

            The pad was a dirt as big as half of a soccer field. We eagerly wait and wait looking up the sky. In retrospect, it was fool of us to wait on dirt pad for a helicopter. Then, somebody from the back said ,”he is here” መጺሎ!

            IA was on the podium, a few soldiers with Kalashnikov close to the stage. He waved high to everyone, made a long unscripted speech praising Ato Ghebrekristos, hand shake the veterans, lunch…..

            “This guy is not the right leader for this country” said one Danish expat young lady. Being the naïve young NNNN then, I argued how the best leader was with an how dare attitude. She argued it was more important for him to be available for dignitaries instead of wasting his time on petty projects.

            In reality he was avoiding his office pretending to be busy. May be that is why he chose to live once in Massawa and now at Adi Halo.

            The morale of the story is AA avoiding his responsibilities and lost diplomatically.

          • Brhan

            Thanks, Aman Y,
            If you look at the timing of the letter, it came
            1) Just after the US HoA envoy visit to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, and Kenya. I believe the US has convinced these rich Arab countries not to give a penny to the dictator. This is like an indirect economic sanction against DIA.
            2) There is news about the last offensive that EDF will conduct against TDF and DIA sending more troops there. DIA understands that the US and its allies, like the UK, will react differently, this time: militarily, no fly zone, military action if crimes against humanity such as rape happen during the offensive, etc. The letter is to provoke the US. But the US doesn’t announce in advance its military actions.
            3) It also coincided with Kenyan’s president Uhuru Kenyata’s visit to Ethiopia yesterday. Diplomats say that the Kenyan president is also carrying a message from the US to A. Ahmed Ali. The content of the message is still unknown, but it might have angered DIA to release the letter. Also, DIA is watching angrily A. Ahmed Ali, who is starting to slip out of his hand quickly.

    • saay7

      Selamat Brhan:

      Weriduwo Osman Saleh: he read the writing that carries his name the same time you did.

      This letter to the security council appeared almost word for word in Haddas Ertra “editorial” last week. Whether it is pretending to be a Haddas Ertra editorial or a Foreign Ministry statement to the Security Council, it is the ruminations of the demented mind of Isaias Afwerki who wants to tell the world that the US Senate, made of equal number of Democrats and Republicans who can’t agree on the color of the sky put all their differences aside to *unanimously* demand that Isaias withdraw his hostages (EDF) from Ethiopia and that he stop committing serial human rights violations that have been extensively documented *including” by Ethiopias human rights group and its Attorney General.

      And why is the US doing all this, according to psycho Isaias? Because they want to resuscitate the TPLF so it can destabilize the Horn.

      This mess in Tigray will drag on as an insurgency while Ethiopia,(and Isaias), like America in Iraq, continue to believe that all Tigray has is “dead enders on their last throes” and one more “surge” will be the game changer. Weeks become months and months will become years. Meanwhile the Ethiopian economy will continue to tank (the Ethiopian Birr has lost 51% of its value since the beginning of the stupid war.) Abiy, rather than bringing Isaias in from the cold, has decided to seek exile in the leper colony.

      saay

      • haileTG

        Hey saay,

        Man! You still reading Hadas Ertra? Thanks to social media, I have long moved to ERiTV Hateta version to check on what they’re plotting. Yes, the TV editorial was also exactly the same as you said (last weekend) and one wonders why they didn’t want to keep the integrity of the mail until the UNSC got it. Anyhow, I am still searching for the “active engagement” letter of intention they’d sent to Trump. Did you, by any chance, figured out where it could be hiding? Wala ab Hadas Ertra? [BTW, I heard Hadas Eritrea was reduced to 4 day week circulation few years back to improve coverage, later I found the pages were also shortened by 2 leafs:-) ]

        • saay7

          Selamat Hailat The Great:

          Anta Rgum! Ok, the longer version (note to SGJ: don’t listen to this: you hate sports.) So I had a bet that the Lakers would make it to the Finals: and I lost the bet. And my punishment was to read Haddas Ertra, which is neither new, nor has anything to do with Eritrea but the foibles, whimsy and fetishes of Eritrea’s hostage taker, underage conscriptor, octogenarian and common criminal. Who would even buy his crap? The same people who can’t handle freedom and would love an authoritarian to just order their lives. Millions of them live in Ethiopia.

          saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Saay, I listened and I am wondering why. Not only you wasted your time watching men running after an ballon, but you betted and lost?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት

            ሰዓይ ቁማር ተጻዊቱ
            ኣብዘይ ዓቕሙ
            ተበሊዑ
            ከይብሎ ሰሲዑ
            ኣይመስለንን
            የግዳስ

            ክፈልጥ ኔርዎ ፖለቲካ ከምዘይኮነ
            ቁማር ደኣ ግደፎ ንበዓል ኣነ
            ዝነበሮ ንብረት ተጣሊዑ
            ኢዱ ዝሰኣነ
            ኣንታ
            ከላግበሎም ዶ ነዞም ርጉማት ወያነ
            ዋላ ኣማሪካ
            ኤህ! ኢደይ ስኢነ
            ኢድካ ኣይስእንካ
            ካብ ቀደሙ ሳልሕ ዝብልዎ ሽም ኣይመባልዕተይን
            [ቁማር ክጻወት ከለኹ ጥራይ ‘ዩ]

      • Brhan

        Merhaba Ustaz saay7

        DIA has not believed in the importance of foreign relations for the past 20 years. He sees no need for this institution that works based on diplomacy and international laws. And he sees Osman (ምስኪናይ) fits this ineffective institution. Hitler did the same with his foreign minister. Like Hitler, DIA sees that policy of ፈለማ ክተተ ደሓር ተዛተ can only solve regional issues, but this policy as always, will fail.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    As the war in Tigray drags on past the half year mark, there is one odd observation. We are told by some quarters that TDF is dead, finish, deep deep deep under. It is true that facts don’t hold up such a claim. If anything, the TDF appears to kill the momentum of the onslaught and holding some strong-holds. However, only the TDF has managed to show captured or deserting combatants of the other side. Usually, one would expect captives from both sides and each side is as eager as the other to show battle field progress. How is that the ENDF/EDF/Amhara side unable to show captured TDF combatants (other than the TPLF leaders they showed earlier on). This is indeed unusual considering the extent of the ongoing conflict.

    • Aman Y.

      Selam HTG
      The pro-Abi ESAT journalists/activists seem to observe it to. The “journalist” Messay rebuffed TDF’s claim on capturing Hauzane. And to my surprise Sissay interrupted him to say that they can not rule it out, unless the ENDF presents them videos to judge for themselves.

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      Great points!
      I agree with you that the media and the ሜዳ is replete with በወያኔ የተማረኩ ኤርትራዊያን ::

      • haileTG

        Guad Abi,

        Not really…actually we seem to see Eritreans captured in individual numbers and Ethiopians in long lines. Some carrying the suit cases of looting full of broken old clocks and radios. I saw an ENDF captive telling the army not to believe the Nov. 4 slaughter claimed by Bacha as I wrote the above 🙂

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          I have no reason to doubt you or the ENDF captive that tells you all the breaking news.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat-TG,

      Here is my guess as to why we don’t hear POWs of TDF from ENDF and EDF or the Ethiopian/Eritrean governments side: If the ENDF/EDF are taking young Tigrains from their villages, towns, slaughtering them and throwing them by the cliffs (courtesy of the international media’s clips), then how could one think that the POWs will be spared from being killed in groups? I think the POWs have faced the same fate as the young unarmed Tigrains – copied from the military culture of EPLF/PFDJ a language termed as “አጸጋዓዮ”. Me think Hailat. ሃይላት አብ ዘበነ ኢሳያስ ከምኡ እንተዘይኮኑ እንታይ ክትጽበ ትኽእል:: ተጋደልትን ህዝብን እንዳበልዔ እኮ’ዩ መጺኡን ኣብ ስልጣን ዘሎን::

      Regards

  • Aman Y.

    Selam all,
    Are’t we forgeting the elephant in the room?
    PM Abdalla Hamdok says Ethiopia’s Renaissance dam is direct threat to the Sudanese citizens and the Roseires dam; adds that Khartoum rejects #AddisAbaba’s filling of the controversial dam unilaterally.

    • Abi

      Hello Aman Y
      ኤርትራውያን ወዳጆቼ እንደሚሉት ” ውሾቹ ቢጮሁም ግመሏ መገስገሷን አታቋርጥም!!!!!!!!”

      አባይ ቢሞላ አለው መላ መላ
      አባይ ቢፈስ አለው የደስ ደስ
      ( ዘመን ተሻጋሪ ዘፈን)

      • Aman Y.

        ጤና ይሳልጥኝ ክብርነቶ
        ምነው አልገጠመምሳ I am all about equilibrium. I am concerned about a negative resultant. Other wise, Abbay might change it course. ሽቅብ ሄዶ እንዳያጥለቀልቀን። የማያቁት አገር … ሆኖብኝ ነው።
        አብይህ ያለው አዲስ አብሂል አልደረሰህም እንዴ? “እነሱ ይሽጮሃሉ እኛ ሪበን እንቆርጣለን” እቺ ቆረጣ መዘዝ አላት።

        • Abi

          Hello Aman Y
          ገጥሟል እንጂ ጌታው!! የጎንዮሽ ሆኖ ነው እንጂ::

          አብይ ረጋ ብላ ከምትገሰግሰው ኤርትራዊ ግመል የተማረው ብሂል እንደሆነ ጥርጣሬ አይግባህ አያ!!
          አይዞህ አትፍራ ! “ወንድ ልጅ ታሞ እንጂ ፈርቶ አይሞትም”

          • Aman Y.

            Wendim Abi,

            ፈሪ ለናቱ ሲባል አልሰማህም?
            አባይ አባይ
            አባይ አባይ
            ያላገሩ…የሚለውን ስንኝ እስቲ ዝለቅልኝ።

    • Brhan

      Selam Aman Y
      There is a lot of talk about filling the dam from Ethiopia, Egypt and the Sudan.
      The last word that came from Egypt is that the filling won’t affect her, and this according to its foreign minister.
      When you come to Ethiopia and Sudan, the issue is more than the filling of the dam. You have the broader problem and the Fashaga land. When governments have more than one issue in politics, they will exploit one issue to serve another issue.
      Also, yesterday A. Ahmed Ali repeated the dam wouldn’t harm the two countries but will benefit all.
      In addition, Ethiopia is responding to US pressure. Dina Mufti, who said we have to calm down with the US despite its visa sanctions, indicated that Ethiopia had sent mediators to president Joe Biden admin. For sure, GERD will be one of the agenda items in the meeting of the mediators & US officials.

      • Aman Y.

        Selam Brhan,
        Thank for the elaborated information. We can not afford another war.

  • said

    Greetings,

    When it came to matters of war and peace in Ethiopia?
    “God breaks down the rod of the wicked that subdue nations with relentless aggression.” Hebrew Bible.
    “For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.” Gospels.
    “God does not love aggressors.” Qur’an.
    PMAA declared war in Tigray I criticized his mercilessly war on the second of the war . while I am seriously in the camp opposition against the war and many in this forum has taken strong stands against the war , Ethiopia military actions that violate the UN Charter In any case, we have to be clear were we stand morally ?

    Generally speaking .Aggression is never legitimate. Self-defense is often a subterfuge for aggression. It is the hymn of wicked nations, war in Tigray makes it virtually impossible to tell exactly how many men, women, and children have been killed by Ethiopian Federal Defense Forces (ENDF) Amhara militia and EDF
    The issue very complex and have not be resolved for decades .Historically Amhara and Tigrinya are locked in perpetual warfare and today war in Tigray is a continuing of the past . that’s a living history. Neither group is strong enough to defeat the other .As long as the Ethiopian fight Ethnic against another Ethnic or tribe, they will be a little people, ignorant people, Greedy, Backward ,Barbarous, and Cruel.
    A nation comes into being when ethnic of the different group and the or same people put aside petty differences and rivalries for a higher good. If united Ethiopian are to become a political “us” they must have an external enemy, a political “them” against whom to define themselves.
    International media and Observers believe that Ethiopia military Army committed a number of human rights violations during its assault in Tigray along with EDF . The human lives and material costs to the people of Tigray are very significant

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Kaddis,

    Zoom, all the factors that are in play and the prospect of the war game in the coming days and months.Very interesting analysis. Keep up the flow please.

    Regarf

  • Brhan

    Merhaba Deqi Ere

    According to PF(DJ), the drama of the south of the border ended on April 16, 2021. PF(DJ) UN’s rep has put it, “the looming grave threat has been largely thwarted.

    Why do you think PF(DJ) is not talking about the following:

    a) the country has no constitution

    b) no parliament ( people have no say on the issues of their country, including foreign issues

    c) the country remains the greatest jailer of prisoners of conscience, including gov’t officials who criticized his policies concerning power and his handling of the Badme war, which killed thousands of our youth

    d) the unlimited slavery type military

    e) There is no freedom of expression.

    Please try not to drag the drama again, or if you do, can you also address the issues.

    Thanks!

    • haileTG

      Hey Brhan,

      June 24?? I am sure you have a different date in mind.

      IA did not declare Mekete. It is Hafeshawi Kitet that he declared during his last intervew. For Amharic speakers – Hafeshawi Kitet is Hulum Neger Wede Tor Ginbar! [borrowed from Mengistu’s last rallying slogan].

      • Brhan

        Hi HaileTG
        I mean May 24, 2021 ( the comment is edited now)>ኣብ መደረ በዓል ናጽነት ዝሓለፈ ግንቦት 24፡ 2021 ዓቢ ዓርገን መኸተ ዶ ኣይበልን>›ደሓር ድማ ቴማ ናይ ሎምዘመን ህግደፋዊ በዓል ናጽነት ቴማ ከም ኡ ዶ ኣይነበረን?

        • haileTG

          Hey Brhan,

          Bezihu endyu mekete, ketete shintar minTar 🙂 BTW He said “bmeseret wexiU zelo hafeshawi merha kitet”. The theme was “Nkulu duluwat Mkuwan”…ayqenenan Brhan arkey

          • Brhan

            Hello, HaileTG arkey,

            The dictator in Adi Halo acknowledged to the world community that the Woyane threat is now thwarted.
            Do you think the dictator in Adi Halo will make more “back to Eritrea’s internal business” public relations announcements/actions soon?

            He did try by releasing prisoners, such as some Pentecostals and the Diaa Al- Islam private school’s students and their sympathizers, only to have the EU sanctioning his intelligence unit and its staff.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Brhan,

            I am on mark so far in my long held belief that IA will not reverse one single sanction that he has put on Eritreans as long as he lives. Many underestimate his deep vengeance and dislike of the people of Eritrea. I wish I can be more optimistic here, unfortunately the only optimism I can offer is that may be we will find more people still alive when he goes and the jails are open. May be we will find fewer mass grave where some are killed and buried. May be less civil war and people killed on streets when he leaves. Do you feel the demonic stench of even his supporters when they speak? Even in this forum sometimes? I do. Eritreans have been dealing with the devil and the outcome is usually nasty. Let me sum up by saying, no change, no release of prisoners, no rights, no demarcation, no transition…hell will be guaranteed for Eritreans as long as it is in his power.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሃይለ
            ኩንትራት ዝሃበኒ የለን
            ‘ዶ ‘ይበለን

            ስልጣን ብሓይለይ
            እቲ ሕጊ: ሕጊ ናተይ
            ‘ተደልየ ሃገር የፍርሳ
            ‘ተደልየ ንድሕሪት ይመልሳ
            ይደቑሳ
            ይርምሳ
            [ይሃንጻ] ግን ኣይበልኩን ‘ዩ
            መልእኽቲ ናይ ዓዲ ሃሎ ነገር

          • haileTG

            Selamat MM

            መን ተፈቲሑ ዝኣሰሮ
            መን ገዛ ሃኒጹ ዝጀመሮ
            መን ኣገልግሎት ወዲኡ ዝወፈሮ
            መን መሪጹ ናቱ ምህሮ

            መን ንግድ ተኺሉ
            መን ንዋይ ኣዋህሊሉ
            እንታይ ተፈቒዱ እንትርፎ ተኸልኪሉ

            መን ይገይሽ ኣብ ውሽጢ ዓዲ
            መንቀሳቐሲ ከይሓዘ ንመንገዲ
            መንኪናኳ ተዓሺጋ ሰኣን ነዳዲ

            መን ይሰድድ ይቕበል
            ብዘይካ መርቢል
            ምዕባለ ሻዕቢያ’ስ ያኤ ዘምቢል

            ፍርስራስ ጎዳጉዲ
            ዓነውነው ዝበለ ዓዲ
            ኩናት ተኸቢባ ከም መኣዲ

            እዚ ጋንየን ዓዲ ሓሎ
            መንጣሊቱ ትምጻእ ብተሎ
            ሰብ ክነብር ከም ዝመስሎ
            ሃገር ክትድሕን ካብ ሰለሎ።

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሃይላት!
            ዳብል ‘ኳ በዚሕኩማና [ኣማናት: ሳልሓት: ሃይላት: ወዘተረፈ…]

            ደሓን ኩሉ ትብሎ
            ኣንጻር መንግስቲ ዓዲ-ሃሎ
            ይምዝገብ ‘ዩ ዘሎ
            ጭጉራፍ ሰውራ ነዋሕ ‘ያ 🙂

            የግዳስ
            ኢልካዶ በርሚል
            ዳርጋ ኴኑ መዋእል
            ካብ ዘይልእኽ

            2% ደሓን ኣይትእቶ
            ዳርጋ 50% ናይ ካሊፎርንያ
            ከይኣክል 2% ድማ ናይ ኤለትርያ
            ጁባይ ‘ኳ ባዶ ኴኑ ካብ ቀጠልያ
            ይዛረብ የለኹን ብባንዴራ
            ዋላ ማልያ
            ኣነ ደ’ልኩ ናይ ማሃያ
            Live and learn, that’s how it works, ኣዱንያ!
            For now, ከፋያ

            በዓል ባጦን ቴኖን ዶ ጥዒመ ሓቀይ?

  • Amde

    Dear Awatistas,

    I hope you are all alright and survived the awful Covid pandemic.

    I wanted to gauge this room’s opinion of General Tsadqan’s claim that:
    a) the TPLF had taken into its hands 80% of the Ethiopian Federal Defense Forces (ENDF) armor, ammunition, fuel, supplies.
    b) that the ENDF had then used Drones to destroy what were originally the ENDF’s properties that had then become TPLF’s

    Questions:
    1) Do you believe this is true?
    2) Do you think this claim if true, has reduced both the TPLF and much of ENDF into an infantry force, leaving the EDF the only really mechanised (modern) force in the area?
    3) What do you think the implication of this is to the EDF leaving or being compelled to leave Tigray?
    4) Do you think this is the the basis for Tsadqan claiming that TPLF can now defeat EDF and once that is done, the ENDF would be a pushover?
    5) What would be the implication of EDF thinking ENDF does not have the capability to control Tigray?

    Let’s game it out

    Amde

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear Brother Amde,

      Let me try to reply to the most of knowledge.

      In general all what he was saying not correct as far as concern me, because once up on a time in his honeymoon years he was telling us otherwise. Today aan was talking about the same subject,

      for some the answer is yes for example the case of Drones is totally correct that belongs to Emarat which was kept in Assab. (I think it was planned for the same)

      -3) What do you think the implication of this is to the EDF leaving or being compelled to leave Tigray? -Nothing, that- they will request to referendum and become free state.

      5) What would be the implication of EDF thinking ENDF does not have the capability to control Tigray? War will continue and none stope. till UN manage to come or Tigrai forces control the complete Tigrai

      Let us wait and see what awatistas will say,

      KS,

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Selamat Amde
      On #5: According to Colonel Abiyot, & Dr. Birhanu Nega, Ethiopia has no capability to fight TDF [at a same time they say TPLF is wiped out]. I will take their words since I am not there. These statements are on YouTube.

    • Aman Y.

      Selam Amde

      1. Yes, many of the Ethiopian leaders, more or less, have admitted to that effect. And amazingly, he looks honest in telling their own defeat and loss as well.

      2 Yes, for TPLF, but, I suspect ENDF will still have the 20 or 25% mechanized and whatever they can buy from Eritrea and others.

      3. EDF might have to accept a buffer zone enforcement, as the UN demarcates the border.

      4. No, but, TDF is not going to be a push over a either.

      5. Help Abiy secure the other states and venture out on their Red Sea adventure.

      Nice to meet you and thanks for keeping us engaged

      • Hashela

        Selam Aman Y.

        You said “ 3. EDF might have to accept a buffer zone enforcement, as the UN demarcates the border”

        EDF in coordination with ENDF need only to ensure the security and well-being of the UN cartographers whose job is to pinpoint the places for the demarcation pillars. No puffer zone is required between two friendly nations that agreed to abide by the EEBC ruling.

        • Aman Y.

          Selam Hashela
          Whether we like it or not TDF is the independent variable of the linear function. Based on the current developments, UN is not going to trust
          EDF//ENDF. They have some females in the crew.

          • Hashela

            Selam Aman Y.

            How many independent variables does have a linear equation?

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Hashela

            Linear regression for two variables is based on a linear equation with one independent variable. The equation has the form: y = a + b * x where a and b are constant numbers. The variable x is the independent variable, and y is the dependent variable.

            If a, b, c and r are real numbers (and if a, b, and c are not all equal to 0) then ax + by + cz = r is called a linear equation in three variables. (The “three variables” are the x, the y, and the z.) The numbers a, b, and c are called the coefficients of the equation.

            Credit to google

    • Hashela

      Selam Amde

      It is said the first victims of a war are the poor and the truth. There is an exception to that. In TPLF land, even during a period of relative peace the truth was victimized. So the default is not to believe TPLF.

      Strangely, TPLF likes to be defeated by and die at the hands of the Eritrean Defense Forces (EDF). That is why TPLF is glorifying EDF and ridiculing ENDF.
      EDF fulfilled TPLF’s last wish. Now it is time that EDF return home and guard Eritrean sovereign territories including Badme and Irob.

      As long as ENDF guards and secures the western gate, it will be hard for TPLF’s rag tag militia to develop to a fully mechanized army.

    • Saleh Johar

      Amde in the house… after a long hiatus?
      Abi, I thought you were the reception captain here, a few candles and a cake!!!

      Welcome Amde.

    • haileTG

      Selamat Amde,

      We miss your analytical perspective man!

      As a rule of thump I don’t trust any of them fully. The truth is usually between the two opposing versions. Yes, some military hardware has been destroyed, and no it is unlikely it was that much. Unless we believe that PMAA was dumbfounded by the Nov. 4 attack and found himself in war all the sudden and unless we believe that Eritrea was sitting nicely on her hands until a strange looking rockets flew by, then the context is different and so are the facts. PMAA and IA have been working through this, including military visits and so on and TPLF was aware of all this and preparing somewhat. Under such circumstances, ENDF must have stockpiled and replenished well in advance and it must have continued to do so in the last 7 or 8 months. Replenishing missing hardware is much easier than re-grouping and setting up a new structures as the TPLF had to do. So, the ENDF is most likely fully equipped. Also, most weapons sales are illicit (IA knows much about it). Ethiopia’s military hardware is mostly soviet era and even in the best of times, EDF and ENDF have limited state of the art high tech armaments (most likely none). The UAE drones single handedly wrought the second woyane to its knees. But, its was a quick dirty job and they disappeared afterwards. EDF and ENDF might be comparable right now but the vast human resource of Ethiopia means that ENDF is ultimately superior. After farming, joining the army is a mainstay of the vast majority of rural Ethiopians. But, EDF is useful to the current operations. So, some elements of Tsadkan’s claim is true but it doesn’t hold up to the point of 80% armaments being destroyed. With EDF out of Tigray, ceasefire will be achievable. That is a political disaster for IA because TPLF comes back to the scene and would present a host of problems for him. So, IA is fighting for himself (may be not at the start) at this stage of the game. Me thinks.

      • Brhan

        Merhaba Haile TG

        The issue of the United Arab Emirates drone is a puzzle. So far, international media have not provided a single coverage to the case. I see that either they were not from the United Arab Emirates or UAE with its money power is able to make journalists to hardly mention the issue or make it a low profile issue. Or it could be they were not decisive in the battle. If they were ( I wonde if Aljazeera, CNN, BBC, etc people were asleep like the Nothern Command.), history is repeating itself. The planes that came from the same direction (came from Yemen and crossed the Red Sea) and ended the first Woyane rebellion aftermath of WWII.

        Now the United Arab Emirates said to Mr. Jeofery Feltman that it would work with the US concerning Ethiopia.

        So if I go with your narrative, do you think UAE was forced by its former friend in the White House, Trump, to use drones against the Woyane? Like doing a dirty job for the US?

        • haileTG

          Hey Brhan,

          Yes, let’s apply some critical thinking here: how did TPLF know the drones were UAE owned? Why didn’t they think ENDF hired some Ukrainian mercenaries or it was the Saudis or something like that? Coincidence also was to be found with the abrupt departure of UAE from Assab?? But if we give it a benefit of doubt, still though, how did TPLF confidently pointed to UAE. Could it be that they were tipped off by someone who knew and was in the background? Was the US not the first to give satellite evidence of Eritrean presence? Who would know an unmarked drones owner? May be UAE didn’t like the information got out and had to hastily withdraw after what it did. Technically it committed a moral crime.

      • Amde

        Selam HaileTG

        I just seems to me the black eye Abiy is getting mostly for EDF actions in Tigray is not worth it for him or Ethiopia.

        To me, what EDF is doing makes macabre sense (although the civilian atrocities are unexplainable) They (Isayas and PFDJ circle) believe ultimately that Tigray is an existential threat to Eritrea, so a degradation of its capabilities is in Eritrea’s interest.

        Abiy has no such threat, and the degradation of Tigray and the suffering of its population is ultimately Ethiopia’s burden.

        So it is in his interest to stop what EDF is accused of doing and get them headed back across the border asap.

        I just don’t think he has the means to fight TPLF, EDF, protect the western border from Sudan and protect the Dam, among other things. Maybe next year this calculus changes. But for now he cannot. That is my feeling.

        Amde

        • haileTG

          Selam Amde,

          No doubt what you say makes good sense. On question for you though, why do you think PMAA says he did not invite Eritrea. And, what is the calculation behind the Aqabe H’G finding of the Axum atrocity and its implications?

          • Amde

            Hi HaileTG,

            It is possible Abiy did not invite Eritrea. If the assumption that the ENDF was taken by surprise and lost a huge chunk of its capability, Eritrea might have made the calculation to go on offense rather than wait for a TPLF attack.

            Without ENDF, Abiy’s wish might be immaterial.

            It makes sense to me.

            As far as the AG’s findings – not sure if there is much calculation. I thought there might have been a skirmish between TPLF and EDF fighters and then that devolved into attacks on civilians.

            The claim of massacre at Tsion Maryam thing was outlandish accusation, and a few of those accusations were even embellished to say the perpetrators were Eritreans from the lowlands
            (I.e. Muslims) sent to massacre Christians at one of their holiest sites. That is a rabbit hole II was not prepared to enter.

            To be honest, I didnt read he report just the commentaries online.

    • saay7

      Selamat Amde:

      Welcome back! You forgot to provide #2 Pencil and a timer and and and an explanation how you came to understand Tigrinya (Tsadkan’s interview was in Tigrinya): were you pretending all these years? 🙂

      On Tsadkans credibility:

      Does he speak uncomfortable truths? Yeah. Exhibit 1: he is the only one who told us how many soldiers lost in the 98-00 war. Exhibit 2: he (unlike TPLF’s publicly stated policy) said that Ethiopia has a legitimate case to make to claim Assab in that window between Mengistu and Abiy. Exhibit 3: he had a falling out with the Meles Wing of TPLF when it wasn’t popular to do so. Exhibit 4: he admitted in the interview that in the first month of the war the combined forces of Eritrea, Amhara elite, Prosperity and UAE drones (more on that later) annihilated TPLF. Exhibit 5: he had 17 more options (NGOs and African GOs) than to go back to the cave and fight but chose to do so as a member of its central command.

      That being the context:

      1. The UAE drones.
      a. Surveillance drones: most definitely
      b. Unmanned bombing drones: no evidence no shells
      c. No evidence the drones are even UAEs.

      Guess: the US had a drone base in Ethiopia when it was bombing Alshabab and it abandoned the base. Lots of technology transfer to Ethiopians during that period. I guess Tsadkan is saying if it was Ethiopia manning the drones we would have known because we had intel all over ENDF. So rather than blaming TPLF intel failure they are blaming UAE. Why? Remember he was describing Isaias as broker for ARABS (capital Arabs) and the Arab drone fits that narrative. You can never go wrong in Ethiopian politics by demonizing Arabs. In my view UAE left its base in Assab because it saw the righting on the wall before Trump did: Biden was going to be president.

      2. While lying is the official language of TPLF (and sadly PP too), the argument that ENDF is degraded is not just supported by Tsadkans bravado that TPLF will transition from disabling its enemies capacity to coordinate to destroying them period but also by Ethiopias refusal to call on Eritrea to withdraw. Let’s pause now and think how many lives perished. But it gets worse: the EDF is also significantly degraded. The conscripted soldiers keep getting younger (16) and barely trained and are being buried in unmarked graves all over Eritrea. Exhibit: Thomas Mountain (3rd on the Eritrean media food chain) tweeted a lined used by TPLF in 1991: if your family members didn’t return, they are dead. So after all that cussing of TPLF, the PFDJ has learned one lesson from them: do not account for your dead.

      Of course all this was predictable in November 2020. But the Habesha brain hemisphere that processes cost of war has been broken since, oh, the beginning of time. If PFDJ borrowing from TPLF culture, the PP is borrowing from PFDJ culture: rather than admitting its mistake it’s going to blame the whole world for violating its sovereignty and hating on it because it’s a proud black nation.

      saay

      • Brhan

        former Ethiopian Commander

      • Amde

        Saay,

        The bone am gonna pick with you this morning is that you forced me to lumber over to the desk to read your comment because apparently my eyes are to damn old to make out words on the phone anymore.

        And that goes for the pencils too – I am at an age where pencils are for jabbing my own eyeballs.

        Not sure about Tsadqan harping on the Arabness of the drones so much haha..

        Gotta go and earn a few shekels for now.

        • saay7

          Amde:

          What do you mean you are not sure. I could be mistaken but I don’t even think he used the words United or Emirates in his description: he only used its middle name. For brevity I am sure 😀

          And welcome back T. Kifle! The one hundred million country antagonists have enough and capable advocates for all the antagonists. The part that drives me insane is the 3.5 million country fighting an undeclared war. Since you always appear to be well informed T Kifle, what is your best estimate of Eritrean casualties in Tigray and Ethiopia in general.

          saay

          • T. Kifle

            Hey SAAY,
            Thanks for the welcome!
            Is it a jab or for real that you think I ‘appear well informed”? 🙂
            In any case, as to my understanding, the last border war was much worse than all the wars fought combined during the armed struggle.
            The Tigray war is even worse than the border war in 1998-2000. And obviously causalities is much higher. I don’t think you believe in the 19K thing. this war is devastating both in terms of casualties, livelihood destruction, human rights abuse and of course level of anger from the Tigray side.

          • saay7

            Selamat T. Kifle:

            The 19,000 casualties in 98-00 and do I believe it? Well yeah I do because (1) it’s a huge number: we lost in 2 years almost a 1/3 of what we lost in 30 years of armed struggle (2) remember, Awate had the raw data: the where the when the how.

            My question is (and I am serious as a heart attack) in your estimation how many Eritreans have been killed, maimed and taken POWs in the Ethiopian Civil War that started in November 2020?

            Saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Do you really believe on the number of casualties from the war 1998-2000? The revered journalist Milkias (RIP) could have disprove it for you if he is a alive. He did disprove it in one of his meeting in my area when he landed safely in US. He had different account on it. I believe we will hear different number with the demise of the despot. Good to see you!

            Regard

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Emma,
            Just a correction, the data awate published is not raw data, but straight from the government database.

          • haileTG

            Hey SGJ,

            Assuming everyone who died made it to the database, that is the closest figure we have to the truth.

          • Desbele

            Selam Haile,

            Even those executed by the regime make it to the database. I served in 8th round NS. I checked names i know with what Awate published.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Saleh,

            “Raw data” is taken from Saay’s argument. But, despite it is from the government’s data, do you think it is a complete data of the war casualties? Just curious.

            Regard

          • Saleh Johar

            Amanuel,
            Yes.
            Raw means, in a sense, we don’t didn’t analyze and tabulate it enough. But the database if fulll and we published just the names.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            Thank you, I will assume full as complete. Correct?

          • Saleh Johar

            Yes it is complete. I just checked my comment and corrected it. We did analyze it but chose to publish just the names and Saay said.

          • saay7

            Abu Selah:

            Your memory is better than mine, except on this one. We *did* tabulate it, and analyze it, every possible way and in the end decided that some of it should not be punished to protect national interest for which we are accused of being closet PFDJ when the PFDJites were also losing their head for our publication of data that belongs to the people.

            And yes the database is complete because it includes even people the PFDJ murdered, people who died from malaria and TB and people who committed suicide, all called “martyrs” because they were wearing the uniform. It always astounds me when people think that huge number is understated. For a country our size it’s massive. But at least then one can argue it was to protect Eritreans sovereignty. This undeclared war taking sides in an Ethiopian Civil War is of an unknown mission against an enemy they have been telling us is thoroughly defeated for 5 months now.

            saay

          • haileTG

            Hi saay,

            I hope I heard PMAA correctly today (??) when he visited a certain private manufacturing business. He said “some people compare this war to Ethio-Eritrea or Karamara, as a soldier I know that it is worse than both”. May be he is hinting something or boasting as always:-)

          • saay7

            Hey HaileTG:

            Although I try follow what he says I missed that one. It is of course inconsistent without he had said before: the enemy is like flour in the wind.

            saay

          • T. Kifle

            Dearest SAAY,

            I wish the figure sticks on 19K. But the account I have shows a different picture. but it is a non issue now. 19k is too much a price already.
            To be frank with you, I don’t know as much as you think I know. In the beginning, Eritrean soldiers used to use the Ethiopian counter parts as sacrificial lambs. They sustained fewer casualties in comparison. But lately, Eritreans are on their own. the causalities are turning higher and higher by each passing week. My wild guess is, it will be worse than the causalities sustained in the border war. It is unfortunate we find ourselves in this quagmire after so much sacrifice

          • Saleh Johar

            Welcome back T.Kifle,
            It’s has been a while, hope you are doijg fine.

          • T. Kifle

            dear Saleh Gadiji

            Thank you very much, I am doing fine.

      • Amde

        Hello Saay,

        Now that I have a few shekels in my purse I can come back to thanking you for the long and as usual thorough response.

        a) I think on balance the evidence is that drones were the decisive factor.

        b) I wanted to gauge this group’s opinion on Tsadqan’s assessment, and I guess I am finding the group mostly grudgingly accepts his assessment on the ENDFs loss of assorted bretabret.

        c) That leads to the – as stupid as it sounds – the most likely explanation that a professional army was slaughtered in its sleep and caught completely unawares precisely because it was in no way or position staging for an imminent attack on the TPLF contrary to their claim of such.

        d) Yes this was a gargantuan failure of intelligence. We can piece together that all sides – TPLF, ENDF Addis, Asmara, and BahrDar – were spying and gathering intel on each other, and preparing for a day when things would break into war. It reminds me of the story about the Indians gathering firewood: (I can’t attach a link so I have it below). Nobody knew when, but nobody wanted to be the ones to start the shooting. All through the second half of 2020 TPLF was making ever more brazen taunts to get Abiy to react, and when he didn’t they moved to capitalize on the US election night.

        It is fairly clear what is going on – the ENDF will re-arm due to having state resources. The TPLF feels it has a short time window to push out EDF and create facts on the ground before ENDF rearms, and they are using propaganda and international pressure. Like much of what they do, TPLF is tactically successful but strategically drive themselves deeper into the hole.

        Amde

        Appendix 1:
        I partly blame our monotheistics religions on our need to have total vanquishment of the “enemy”. That thinking divides the world into God/Satan.

        This is also baked into our culture, so I am afraid by no means is this war going to be the last. I think we can say we have a tempo of about a generation or so (~ 25 +/- 5 years-ish) before a new one gets triggered. We can blame a particular organization, person, ideology, but the reality is our cultures support fighting and dominance. Until we figure out institutional locks to counteract our cultural-driven approval of violence it will happen. And culture doesn’t change that fast so you know it’s true.

        Appendix 2:
        The Joke:

        “It was October and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught he old secrets. When he looked at the sky he couldn’t tell what the winter was going to be like.

        Nevertheless, to be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared.

        But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, “Is the coming winter going to be cold?”

        “It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,” the meteorologist at the weather service responded.

        So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared.

        A week later he called the National Weather Service again. “Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?”

        “Yes,” the man at National Weather Service again replied, “it’s going to be a very cold winter.”

        The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find.

        Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. “Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?”

        “Absolutely,” the man replied. “It’s looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters ever.”

        “How can you be so sure?” the Chief asked.

        The weatherman replied, “We’re sure it’s going to be cold because the Indians are collecting firewood like crazy!”

        • Desbele

          ሰላም ኣምደ
          C. ድንበር ሲጠብቅ ‘ሳይተኛ’ የሚያድረው ‘በተኛበት’ ተጠቃ። ወደው ኣይስቁ ኣሉ። እውነት ድሮ የምናውቀው ኣምደ ይሄን ኣምኖ ነው የሚደጋግምብን?

          • Amde

            Selam Desbele,

            Yes.

            Tinish kasaqkuh then mission accomplished.

            Relax a little.

            A professional army on supposedly a stand by for an imminent offense doesn’t hand over its armor. That one is more unbelievable.

            Amde

        • saay7

          Amde:

          Funny story and, dude, it’s Native Americans. Or natives if you are into that whole brevity thing.

          Agree with you on your assessment of why Ethiopia erupts into destructive wars regularly: it’s in its culture. It has not yet consolidated its nation-building never mind state-formation. You ask an Ethiopian to define Ethiopianism and you will hear some version of “3,000 years… earliest to adopt christinity Islam…never been colonized.” If after 3,000 years you haven’t consolidated the State, if the earliest Christians and Muslims are not moral voices but vessels of the State, what good is it to claim not being colonized?

          For cultures to change, the change agents must drive it (as happened in Japan after the World War II) but all one sees in Ethiopia is that its change agents (the elite) are always in a race to be in the service of the State, however they define their State. Find me a single TPLFite who disagrees with the decision of his org and Debretsion, find me a single Abiyists who disagrees with the decision of Abiy. You all have become NNNN.

          And that means you too. (A line from Prince: it’s his birthday.)

          As for Eritrea, the biggest window to Isaias extremely dangerous frame of mind was given to us at the Sawa anniversary interview a couple of years ago where he expressed his understanding that Italy’s colonization of Libya, Somalia and occupation of Italy in 1935 was due to Eritrean brainpower, guts and muscle. Like all racial theories this has its huge flaws as in: how did Italy colonize Eritreans then? Using their own brainpower, guts and muscle? How weak was Turkey when it lost Libya to Italy? How weak was Somalia pre Italian colonization? Or Ethiopia in 1935. What appears clear is that he had a willing student-listener in young impressionable Abiy who was all too ready to have this nutty eugenics experiment in his own country, in the North where he himself had been stationed and lived with the people.

          At the very least, we may have to require mental fitness for the job of head of state if we are to avoid this cycle of violence. At the very least. Right now, in my view, all the antagonists are mentally unfit to have the responsibilities they hold.

          saay

    • T. Kifle

      Hello Amde, good to see you here

      just few points

      1. 5 of the 8 mechanised divisions and one ”special weapons’ ” division were stationed in Tigray. it is estimated in terms of fire power makes upto 80% what ENDF possesses. But having the war arsenals is one thing and making use of them in the best possible effective way is another thing.
      2. The Drone thing is true. my guess is UAE probably got the go-ahead from Trump. Trump never talked about the war. The guys at the State department were supportive of the war believing AAA and IA would finish it in a matter of few days and would be of much inconsequential.
      3. Drone has become a common parlance in hose who participated in the war theatre. The advance they made to Abiyi Adi by crossing WerEi Suluh river overcoming the escarpments and hairpin bends thereof is mainly because of the Drones. The same can be said in the south front. Abiyi Adi town is destroyed mainly by drones. war jets hardly do any meaningful accomplishment.
      4. Since the Weapons were essentially Ethiopian, in effect, the country has lost much of its battle & armoured tanks, Heavy artillery and Ballistic Units. It also lost the special weapons along with the launching platforms.
      5. It is this very fact that makes Eritrea indispensable in their effort to contain the war.
      6. The Tsadqan’s claims to defeat EDF, I think, is a simple statement of purpose and the the fact that Ethiopians have little interest in the war except few sections of the society. Eritrean soldiers are also in the same quandary of finding a purpose as the going gets tough. The new conscripts are sent just told to catch few guys and pacify the villages and towns not to fight an army as tough as the TDF forces.
      7. Only negotiations would bring this war to an end. But because the atrocities and level of destruction is enormous and highly likely the issues implicate Genocise, and war crimes, the two leaders seem not to bend to the demands of the international community.

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother T.Kifle,

        Wow, great brother. Nice and welcome brother.

        KS,,

      • Brhan

        Hello T. Kifle,
        As you know, only Eritrea officially admitted that it has participated in the Tigray.
        Somalia has not, but it was exposed because Somali mothers demonstrated and asked, ” where are our kids?”

        Why do you think the United Arab Emirates has not come yet to deny or acknowledge its involvement?

        A few days ago, in its official media, UAE informed that it had promised to the US HoA’s envoy J. Feltman, who was in Dubai, to work with the US in the region.

        • T. Kifle

          Selamat Brhan

          You know, Eritrea admitted its involvement much later in the war. It did so when AAA admitted it indeed was part of the theatre. I knew it was a part from the D-day. AAA told the parliament that he had hidden the local drone capability when he invited IA visit the Air Force base in Bishoftu. There was none of it of course but wanted it to cover the involvement of UAE. In normal circumstances, you don’t hide capability. You show it off for deterrence and avoid the prospects of war. But the PM boasted on his shrewdness that led the TPLF into believing that he is incapable of staging war based on information asymmetry.
          We are not having a normal ‘African Government’- courtesy of SAAY.

        • haileTG

          Merhaba Brhan,

          Please google “Are Emirati Armed Drones Supporting Ethiopia from an Eritrean Air Base?” It is the only expansive analysis of the issue as far as I came across. They use satellite data images and possible scenarios. Their verdict is that it is likely but no evidence. If UAE indeed used drone campaign to alter the outcome then that is not something they would wish to admit or let out. It would be considered an intervention without grounds to do so. Given its diplomacy in Africa, it wouldn’t want it to be public. It raises more questions. They do have money and influence if they wish to cover it up. They did not come out and deny it categorically either, so the jury is out on this one. Saay made a good rebuttal against. One point I would differ is that drone shells/ordinance are not different than other ordinance. Drones are special in their tactical delivery advantage rather than the product they deliver. Also, if people can refuse to accept a 16 yearold living and breathing Eritrean captive or Guad Abi can call a burnt 13 yearold Tigrayan child a fake news, what chance does a piece of twisted and charred metal has to convince anyone?

          • Brhan

            Merhaba haileTG,
            I googled even in Arabic. It is the same result as yours.

            The question is, why have not the UAE officials admitted or denied it yet?

            Or why the international news channels, including Al Jazeera of Qatar, which is next to UAE, have not conducted investigative report about it?

            But in Arabic, there is a proverb that says السكوت علامة الرضاء (Al Skut Alamatu Rida ) which roughly means silence the sign of agreement. It was told it did it. It kept silent. So it means it did it.

          • haileTG

            Selam Brhan,

            From my limited Arabic and Eritrean traditions, I figured the Al skut part 🙂 Is that where the Asmarino Sekt comes from?

          • Brhan

            Selam haileTG
            Yeah with a little bit reformation : ኣታ እዚ ሳክት ኢዩ። Which means he is not behaving as normal person who reacts to his surrounding either positively or even negatively. So UAE is not reacting not saying Yes or Ney. There was a social media guy by the name of Saktism…I don’t now , where is he or she these days?

      • Amde

        Selam T. Kifle,

        Hope all your family is OK.

        1) Are you saying drones are no longer being used in the war? If drones could do the damages claimed, then wouldn’t they make the notion of old-school “mechanized army” irrelevant?

        2) Put yourself in the Eritrean government’s point of view. They have a friend in Addis. But they have a “mortal” enemy in TPLF. I am one of those that believe that Abiy kept war from flaring between Eritrea and TPLF for the past three years but at the end of the day this did not work. What would be their policy options?

        • T. Kifle

          Selamat Amde

          1. Drones are not in use at the moment. The government is trying its best to them back this time not from UAE but from elsewhere. He mortgaged EAL partly to get few of them from Turkey. You might have already heard Canada suspended selling drones to Turkey. The same news came from the US moths back of suspending the package of $27 billion bill of war machines including drones. The fact is TDF at the moment doesn’t have any of the heavy machines that Drones could bring asymmetry in the war fronts.
          2. The notion that TPLF is a ‘mortal enemy” is half-true. The only strategic friend of Eritrea from the Ethiopian side is TPLF. I understand the difference between IA and Eritrea. In any case the war in Tigray is not IA’s making. AAA is the one who wanted to test the depth of the sea. Remember the words of Tsadkan when he said he met the PM. ገንዘብና ጉልበት የማይቀይረው የለም፡፡ ስለዚህ በዚህ ምክንያት እንቅልፍህን አትጣ፡፡ በራሳችን መንገድ እንፈታዋለን፡፡ Those where the words of AAA. There was no reason to conduct war b/n TPLF and Eritrea. in last two years, the Ethiopian side actions and decisions were clear. War was imminent as a primary choice of Ethiopia not that of Eritrea.

          • Hashela

            Selam Kifle

            “The only strategic friend of Eritrea from the Ethiopian side is TPLF. “
            Was not Tzadkan, a member of the top TPLF leadership, who was pushing for the capture and occupation of Assab? How do you reconcile these diametrically opposed positions of TPLF?

          • T. Kifle

            Selamat Hashela,
            I am not advocating Tsadkan here.
            The official stand of TPLF, the regional gov. of Tigray and Ethiopia of the OLD EPRDF never wavered since the beginning of times. It remains constant irrespective of the mood of the day. Even at this time with all the bile, pent up angers and so much pain and suffering, the vast majority of us have no qualms with the sovereignty of Eritrea.

            Tsadkan being independent then, had opinions on legal access to the sea. I had no idea if he still holds that position. But trust me, we don’t fight on absolutes. Eritrean sovereignty is an absolute.

            The government of Tigray is fighting this ugly war because the red lines for OUR ABSOLUTES were crossed by leaders who believe in ”Might is right (IA) and ገንዘብና ጉልበት የማይቀይረው የለም(AAA)፡፡”

          • Hashela

            Kifle

            In his recent interview, Tzadkan spoke in his capacity as the leader of the central command. Please check my updated comments to you.

          • T. Kifle

            Selamat Hashela,

            I listened to his interviews, what he said regarding to Eritrean people was this:-
            ‘..አብ ሉኣላውነት ኤርትራ ዘለና ቁዋም አብ ቦትኡ አሎ፡፡ ‘ and thanked for those Eritreans voicing the injustices levelled against the people of Tigray.

          • Hashela

            Selam Kifle

            No, you are erring. He said “መሰል ኤርትራውን (?ኤርትራ) ብምሉኡ ነኽብር ኢና”።
            If he indeed said ‘..አብ ሉኣላውነት ኤርትራ ዘለና ቁዋም አብ ቦትኡ አሎ፡፡ ‘ . This say nothing.

          • T. Kifle

            Selamat Hashela,

            I believe the Rights of Eritreans wouldn’t be respected without respecting the territorial integrity of Eritrea. So, I have no doubt the things I said on the other thread still hold.

          • Hashela

            Selam Kifle

            All what Eritreans see and hear from Tigrayan elites, including you, is ambiguity. We are talking about Eritrean territorial integrity as defined by international laws not as defined by TPLF.

          • T. Kifle

            Selamat Hashela

            It seems we have one more addition to the mercenary Eritrean forces in you. Just cross the Mereb river and ensure your right proper. 🙂
            ከም ሰብ ጀሚርካስ…

          • Hashela

            Selam Kifle

            No need to cross the river and I maintain no Eritrean soldier should be in Tigray and no civilian Tigrayan should be harmed by Eritreans. The Eritrean army should have stopped after it secured Badme and Irob.
            TPLF wasted the chance for Tigrayans to live in peace with their neighbors to north and to south. Now TPLF lost everything. Unfortunately, the heaviest price is paid by the civilian Tigrayans.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            “ no Eritrean soldier should be in Tigray and no civilian Tigrayan should be harmed by Eritrean soldiers. Period! The Eritrean army should have stopped after it secured Badme and Irob.”

            If the above statement is your position. Do you condemn EDF for conducting war inside Tigray and beyond – a catastrophic war to our youth and to the Tigray people? What I read and watch from your comment is different – heralding success on the war.

            Regard

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            When I said, I mean it. When the conflict started in November 2020, I was among the first in this forum to say that EDF have no business in Tigray beyond securing sovereign Eritrean territories. You can check in the archive.
            I know this doesn’t fit into your black-and-white world view.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            You want to see the death of TPLF and TDF. And you told us that it already happened. Now, if that was your desire, you can not see the death of TPLF without EDF going inside and fighting tooth and nail, and paying heavy price of our precious kids. My friend, you can’t walk on both arguments. If you are against the war condemn the war of invasion publicly, as we don’t want invasion to our land. Even if you want to play politics, know how to play it, sir. This is just laughable.

            Regard

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Your bitterness and disappointment is impacting your rational thinking and credibility.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hashela,
            Yes I have the bitterness of losing of our young in this senseless war, and you don’t. Because you are insensitive and your kids are under the warmth of their parents. Damn!

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Take a break and a deep breath. When you cool down, then I can have rational exchanges with you.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            ንደቅኻ ዓረም ግበረሎም:: ዓሻ ሰብ ጥራይ’ዩ ብዛዕባ ዓረም ሰባት ዝዛረብ::

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            it seems that you reading capability is also severely impacted. Revisit what I wrote.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            ከምኡ ተረዲኤ’የ እቲ ግብእ መልሲ ሂበካ ዘለኹ እንተተሰቆሪካ:: እቲ ትብሎ ዘለኻ ናይ ለባማት መልሲ ስለዘይኮነ: በቲ ዝርደኣካ ቋንቋኻ ገይረ‘የ መሊሰልካ ዘለኹ:: እህምም! ዓረም ሰብ::

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            it seems you are in emotional distress. Since you have abundantly demonstrated your locality to the organization of the visiting emissary, now take a brief break.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam T.Kifle,

            “ We don’t fight on absolutes. Eritrean sovereignty is an absolute”

            There is no a confirmation more than that. You said it without any room for argument. Thank you.

            Regards

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam T.Kifle,

        Good to hear you from the war front. Hoping everything is okay on your side.Your analysis and your report from the war front is quintessential for us – the arm chair analysts. One hopes to see cease-fire immediately to stop the on going ethnic cleansing and make the perpetrators of crimes accountable.

        Again good to hear your voice!

        Regard

      • MERIR

        Greetings T-kifle; I hope you are doing just fine on these tough times. Although I blame on you guys, the elites of Tigray. The last time you posted, you said “there is NO earthly force can match or overcome the force of TPLF” well, only it took three weeks. The moral of the story, it is the story. Now, you the elites are the once you got the people of Tigray on this mess and you need to stop and think how you can move forward. TPLF is dead, I mean absolute death. You can revive the dead. I keep hearing from the dead TPLFs that five to six country collaborated to fight Tigray; the question is why did they all collaborated to wipe you out? Ask your self and the answer is clear. Now save the people of Tigray, start fresh, stop creating enemies.

        • T. Kifle

          Hi Merir,
          New alias or new comer? in any case, I cannot talk of a TPLF before as a fighting force b/c TPLF had none. It was just a political party.

          And to add more, I never advocated war in any point of time in my past. You see, You asked me why 6 countries are fighting us? Yes, it is because we are right and those on the other side of the fight are rogue(not only wrong but rogue) with no accountability to their own people what so ever. Do you know that Eri-Tv never said a word about the involvement of Eritrea in the war?

          To your surprise, dead or alive, it is not TPLF who is fighting the war. It is TDF led by the duly elected Tigray government. The fight is a Tigrean fight where political proclivity is irrelevant.
          Never mind the justness, Tigray has come thus far, resisting all the evil forces of countries the number you mentioned.

          • MERIR

            Hi T-kifle, no it is the same old Nitric. They banned me for unknown reason, actually I know when ever SAAY is involved, he loves banning people, so be it more power to him. Anyway; call it TDF or TPLF, they can’t do a hoot. You need corridor for logistics, you need medicine, you need food and you need armaments. With out logistics, how on earth do you think your TDF, whatever going to fight? Sustainability is the key to the fight you have. Again, you elites fed the people more that who they are and the results are evident. Now, sit back and plan a way out. Let me ask you one question, what is the purpose of TDF? For what are they fighting for?

          • T. Kifle

            Hi Nittric,
            Good too see you then. I sensed it was familiar and that’s why I asked.
            It seems you were in the initial war plan. The things you mentioned were the reasons put on table to squeeze Tigray. The sortched-earth policies of the two governments to ensure Tigray dries up to sustain war efforts. Every conceivable economic mainstay is destroyed. Nonetheless, it survived 6 months and counting. So let me give you unsolicited advice here:Just patience Nittric, patience! 🙂

          • MERIR

            Hi T-kifle; I understand and the very reason Prompted to respond after a long absents was, your remark that the “earthly power” thing stuck with me. During this war in Tigray, it kind of helped me to understand the mentality of the people and the problem it brought them. I cannot imagine mental anguish from believing “earthly power” to a complete melt down in a record of war engagement. Again, say TDF defeats the federal forces then what? I just want to know what the plan is? Thanks T-kifle.

        • Abi

          Hello General
          Glad to see you back.

          • Amde

            Hi Abi, Nitricc

            Whatever happened to Mahmouday?

        • Hashela

          Selam Merir (መሪር)

          Welcome back. Your incisive comments and analyses were missed. Nice avatar: ሓለዋ ወሰን!

          • MERIR

            Greetings Ras Abiy, AMade and Hashela; I thank you guys, However, I am still suspended and I got to respect their wish. As the great Buda saying goes, “when people don’t want you, stop disturbing them.” I just couldn’t pass to remained T-kifle when he said No earthly power can move TPLF. I don’t know why but that remark of T-kifle, left great impression in me and I think that kind of mentality is what got them to where they are. What amazes me is that Eritreans fought to defend a village for two full years, while the whole Ethiopians participating in all out war. Yet, the earthly power, deserted the whole Tigray in three weeks while arming 80% of Ethiopian weaponry. Anyway; it will be over soon. With out logistics, there is no much you can do but surrendered.

          • Abi

            General
            This nation feels empty without the one and only Five Star General.
            Welcome back again.

          • Hashela

            Selam Merir

            It is great that you stopped by to remind us about the behavioral transition of some that can be best described as: ካብ ጎርባዕባዕ ናብ ጠንቀላዕላዕ (from unheard bravado to wallowing on the mud)

      • Abi

        Hello T Kifle
        Glad to see you back.