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Isaias Travels Through Ethiopia To Mogadishu Via Nairobi

Gedab News received a leaked copy of a letter detailing Isaias Afwerki’s airplane flight schedule.

The letter was sent by the Kenyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the Kenyan Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure with a copy to the Eritrean Embassy and The Civil Aviation Authority at Jamo Kenyatta International Airport in Nairobi.

According to the letter, Isais traveled from Asmara to  Mogadishu via Nairobi and returns on the same route.

Contrary to what the Eritrean media reported, Isaias was not on a state visit to Kenya but used Nairobi as a stopover while transiting to and from Mogadishu. President Kenyatta didn’t receive Isaias at the airport.

The reason for Isaias’ travel through Ethiopian and Kenyan airspace is, reportedly,  to avoid flying over the Red Sea and Bab Al Mendeb.

A direct flight from Asmara to Mogadishu is about 1089 miles while the same flight via Nairobi is 1787 miles, an additional increase of about 60% to the distance.

Isaias rarely announces exact dates of his travels, however, his visit to Somalia was unofficially reported five days ago.

Meanwhile, communal strife has caused the death of scores of Ethiopians in the Kenyan-Ethiopian border town of Moyale which reportedly has been without power and water supply for many days.

In [another] news, Gedab learned that the hunt for the previous Ethiopian spy-master, Getachew Assefa, is still raging. A source said, “Getachew’s supporters contend he is targeted because he is believed to have a lot of dirt on many EPRDF influential leaders, and the hunt is an attempt  to silence him and not necessarily  to bring him to justice ”

In April 2018, Getachew Assefa was removed from his position as head of the National Intelligence and Security Services. The federal government has issued an arrest warrant against him. He is a member of the TPLF’s Executive and Central Committee and now lives in the Tigray region.

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  • Ismail AA

    Selam Ayneta and Dr. Paulos,

    Those who take part in this forum, read in one way or another my views on the term “Ghedli” might have noticed my discomfort with it. Actually, it’s a misnomer of an important and all-purpose historical life of a people that was engaged in costly struggle to assert through self-determination their aspiration for an independent national state. The genuine set of words that encapsulate the essence and meaning of that historical period is National Liberation Struggle of the Eritrean people

    The revisionist attempts to dwarf this important period of Eritrean people’s history into a confusing term which is bereft of any conceptual and political dimensions was meant to inject into the national struggle sinister attitude that relate to anti-Eritrean people’s aspiration to a separate natiolnhood from the Ethiopian empire-state.
    Some try to hide negative demeanors behind the word ተጋድሎ in the name of the Eritrean Liberation Front which had no other meaning than expression of endurance struggle embodied.

    Dr. Paulos is on spot by rightly stating the need to define the term. So, I would like to second him by posing a question: Is it an ideological concept that can pass the rigors of hypothesis and empirical analysis or is it public relations tool to empty the national liberation struggle of its purpose and place in history?

    One point that should be kept in mind is neither the regime, nor what it has been doing to Eritrea and it’s people, represent the national liberation struggle that started from 1942 (exit of the Italians) through the 1950s upto 1991.

    • Paulos

      Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

      Well said! In 1961, Eritreans were left with no choice but to take matters into their own hands when the King slowly but surely abrogated the agreed upon Federation. Ghedli had a single cardinal objective, that is, to liberate Eritrea from the clutches of Ethiopia and in 1991, the objective was achieved in flying colors. What happened in between is a matter of perspective.

      As Emma put it, the next chapter is not to revise the merits of Ghedli or lack thereof but to build the nation as in political and social institutions among other things.

      • Acria

        Selam Dr. Paulos,

        The problem with Eritrean politics is not the lack of planners or architects, it is the lack of builders. We need people who are willing to do the nitty-gritty matters of building the country at the local level. National freedom is not just liberating the country from foreigners, it is also liberating the country from its backward thinking albeit how much it may seem contradictory. That will inevitably lead us to use the good portions of the Ghedli principle and discard its outdated portions.

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም እስማዒል፡
      እዞም ሕልፍ ሕልፍ ኢልና ገድሊ ነኾምስዕ፡ ቅሓር እንዳገበረልና፡ ናብቲ ክስጉሞ ዝግባኦን ስለዘይሰጎመ፡ ድሕሪኡ ዝስዕቡ ስለዘይሓብሓበን እበረይ፡ ሕራይ ኢልና ሓይኽና መድሃኒት ክኾነና ውሕጥናዮ ኢንዲና!

      • Ismail AA

        ሰላም ሃይለያት፣
        ኣነ ዝብሎ ዘለኹ “ገድሊ” ዝበሃል ሰነ ሓሳዊ ትሕዝቶን ዕምቈትን ዘለዎ ኣምር የለን እዩ። ህዝቢ ዝሓለፎ ውሱን ታሪኻዊ መዋእል ግን ነይሩ። ውድባትን መራሕቶምን ተጻወቲ ተራ ኣብቲ ሕዝባዊ ቃልሲ እዮም ነይሮም። እቲ ታሪኻዊ መስርሕ ግን ዋናኡ ሕዝቢ እዩ። ሓደ ካብቶም ተጻወቲ ተራ ሓጥያት ናብ ዝግበእ ኣቅጣጫ ሰለ ዘይሰጎመን መተካእታኡ ስለ ከም ግቡእ ስለ ዘይመልመለን ኩሎም ንዓመታት ዝጸዓቱን ዝክፈል ዋጋ ዝኸፍሉን ብ ኣልማማ ምፍረዱ ፍትሕስዊ ኣይኮነን።

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Ayneta,

    “Ghedli” and “ghedli thinking” has become of the past. It’s achievements and it’s flaws will taught as part of the overall Eritrean history. That is all. Now to build “modern Eritrean state”, is strictly the task of our young generation. The old generation can support you and contribute towards the effort of the young generation.

  • Paulos

    Selam Ayneta,

    The topic of Ghedli seems seasonal for it appears in this Forum in cycles. That said however, if we are to revisit it for the X number of time, I say, we shouldn’t confuse it with an abstract concept, one has to define it first. How about you grace us with the concrete definition of Ghedli. What say you?

  • David Samson

    Selam Alex,

    TV Hasot aka serving truth lies 24/7, 365 days. If the belly from the beast get 1 out of 10 turn out to be as correct, to me, it is as a credible news as one gets. If you want verified news, you need to ask the boss in Asmara to allow journalist to operate freely.

    • George

      Selam DS

      Name One lie.

  • Amanuel

    Hi Hope
    The COLLECTIVE responsibility and obligation we have to take on goes with out saying. To be honest it is a bit rich coming from you, the shield of PFDJ in the name Eritrean national security.
    I know there is no happy ending with dictatorship. However, it will be less damaging if the people around IA (particularly the army) not only to know well but dare to face the consequence and follow for example the Zimbabwe or Ethiopia route out of this one man band. These countries are not out of the woods yet, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel for them.
    I must remind you that most of the higher officers are not happy and at some point in the past, they were ready to give their life so Eritreans can live as free people. Yes, circumstance have changed since, but I still have hope.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Hope,

    The other day a guy at work went vacation to his home country, Romania. When he come back we were chatting how things were etc. He told me met his cousin after long time and she is a volunteer at Ethiopia some remote place. He showed me pictures from her face book page and what she does. She is with some Christian organization and she has been there for 19 years. So I asked him what is her primary role. He told me, she is teaching the bible and also she is teaching them how to write their dialect / language using Latin and she is helping translation the bible to their language.

    I was instantly started feeling a rage, and asked him, do you know the history of Christianity in Ethiopia. Do you also know, in Ethiopia they have their own alphabets and they already have the bible translated to their own language many, many years ago.

    Without even thinking much about it, I told him, this sounds to me like a complete waste of time. I told him, we can pronounce any sound and we can spell any word. I started showing him how to write his name and told him to say anything in his language and I can pronounce it and spell it.

    Then I asked him to say Tse, Ae, Qe, and he sounding like a bird:).

    Berhe

    • Selam Berhe,

      As you very well know, religion was prohibited in romania by communism, until about three decades ago, and the person you told us about most probably does not have a christian tradition or culture. She is like one of the people who stops you on the streets, or come to you as you sit in a park, and they start a religious discussion uninvited, and they try to proselytize you to yohoba witness or some other weird religions that come mainly from the usa. Usually they are people from countries of the former soviet bloc, who find a way to gain some money through this.

      There is religious freedom in ethiopia, and as you might remember during the 1990s and early 2000s how wahhabism infiltrated the muslim communities, and some were turned in to fanatics and they starters to kill priests and burn churches. At the same time there were other muslims who protect the lives of priests and helped build churches. Such things did not happen for a very long time. The very recent example is what happened in somali regional state under abdi illey.

      When pm Abiy succeeded to bring peace within the ethiopian tewahdo christian church and within ethiopian muslims, evangelists were quick to congratulate their religion by saying that an ethiopian pm who belongs to the evangelical church is a peacemaker of religions in ethiopia.

      This age does not seem bad for religion in ethiopia, in my opinion. I see religions, especially the two main religions, are in a peaceful coexistence, unless the calm waters are disturbed by those who want to use religion as a weapon for their political aims. The fanatics seem to have been subdued.

      Ethiopia and eritrea are blessed as the land of the two ancient religions that exist side by side in peace. The newcomers are part of religious globalization that has failed in the past and will fail again. The ethiopian and eritrean tewahedo religious tradition and cultures are many centuries old and they cannot be easily changed. Moreover, the christian religious tradition seems to have impressed the west. Nowadays, one can easily find tewahedo christian mezmur on youtube not only in geez and amharic, but also in tigrignea and afan oromo. That is a good sign.

      An anthropocentric religion is God’s religion, and that is what Jesus taught when he said “love your neighbors”. I really don’t know what to say about those who are looking for an alternative for God, so called atheist, and those who trade in the name of religion.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Horizon,
        You conciliatory comment is great except that your elbow this time landed on the atheists. There is a tigrigna saying that goes like “የማጠቃው ኣለኝ፡ በትሬን ኣቀብሉኝ”. Atheist are no where in the ethiopian situation. If in any case you are alluding to the marxist-leninists, they are not atheists. They are the first to drink the holy blood and eat the holy flesh, even they carry his crown on their head albeit minus the spines.
        Atheists are just saying, it is good to see you believers reconcile and get some relief, but stop praying to your God to give you your daily enemy in the name of atheists. Stop burning us (atheists) at the stake of your tongue, because anyway according to your belief, we are going to burn at the biggest stake later. When you are at each others throat, atheists don’t even have the time for the lough, because you place them in the midst, you make them the scapegoats of discord and accord. Atheists say make your belief a licence to do good, but not a licence to sin further.

        • Selam Haile S. and Amanuel H.,

          I had in mind atheists in general, those who come out now and then and declare with confidence that there is no God. Agnostics at least say that they are not in a position to know if god exists or not.

          Who are atheists really? Don’t you see hypocrisy when somebody says there is no God only to replace him with his own type of god, be it money, power, something approachable and tangible, even science, which is still far away from proving or disproving ever the existence of God. Does atheism teach morality as religion does, or morality is not necessary in human society? Atheists are good in criticizing the weakness of other human beings, at the same time they do not accept their own weaknesses? Doesn’t the bible (the ten commandments) in the case of christianity, give direction as to the way social life should be, which could have brought man to perfection if everybody could only apply it in their daily life? Don’t you think that you blame religion for the transgression of human beings by equalizing God and man.

          A. H., wow, “Traditional religious fanatic”? I do not think that i asked for atheism or even some religious cults coming from the west to be banned. Criticizing is a different matter. Nevertheless, if you ask me about those barbarians who slice human throat or bomb innocent people in the name of god, i would be happy to see them hanged.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Horizon,

            May be it wasn’ Well thought from your side before you throw your criticism. But both your former PM and the current PM are from the religions of “the newcomers from the west” for which you openly criticized their Existence in Ethiopia. We are not still in the Haileslassie era, in case you haven’t noticed it.

          • Selam Amanuel H,.

            Protestantism is not new in ethiopia. It is at least 50 yrs old and more. The newcomers are the likes of jehovah’s witness and some others. Especially in regions like oromia, Protestantism is widespread even during HSI era. By the way, since you brought it, even tplf era has passed, let alone Haile Selassie’s, which was a long time ago. Nothing lasts forever in this world.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            The “Pentecostal” Church a branch of the Protestantism and “Jehovah witness” were hunted like crazy during Haileslassie era. Your current leaders are from the Pentecostal Church. So my friend you can’t play politics once you have erred or go ahead condemning them as you did. One of the two.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Horizon,
            What incited me to react is your unexpected last paragraph excursion to atheism in the religious tension-reconciliation discussion in the Ethiopian context. Otherwise, while avoiding potentially prolonged discussions on whether atheism is a form of religion or not, or on whether science can disprove the existence of God, I agree with you on certain points. Yes, atheism is defined by the existence of belief, by negating a concept (God) that is not tangible even if it is based on deep interrogation of why do we exist. I don’t think atheists are devoid of such interrogations. No one with consciousness can; we are all results of such interrogation. Without delving into differences between atheists and agnostics, their common denominator is the profound double of the existence of such being. If religion was only all about the moral aspects of the 10 commandments without the dogma, the anti-religion movements would have been few. But religion is not only that. Religions instead of helping us in the understanding of their concept and God, they confuse us further by on one hand mirroring him according to our human image and character, by adoring and fearing him like a dictator, by making him a masculine like our male-chauvinist society, by creating against him an equivalent adversary, Satan, as well as making resentful and ruthless like some of us, just to mention some human attribute examples, and on the other hand by making him the supernatural immaculate best wisher for everybody. Atheists and agnostics easily go into such finger pointing because these are the things they confront in the practice of belief.

          • Selam Haile S.,

            Can one remove the human factor from religion, so that one could see the pure form of religion without the influence of man? Unfortunately, it is not possible, for religion is made for human beings. Has man influenced religion in a negative way? Profoundly.

            Is it possible to say God is vengeful? Why should he be when he knows that man is weak with no power to know everything, even with scientific development. Well, he endowed human beings with a thinking brain to be able to differentiate between good and bad, but not enough to know everything.

            Has woman a lofty revered place in religion? Yes, undoubtedly. But, what is the role played by the catholic church, as some historians say, so that the place of women was made inferior to that of man. Everything was decided by men for women during the early years, and it continues even today.

            As we can imagine if human beings bring their end on this planet, most probably it will be due to their own actions, such as thermonuclear warfare, climate change, a pandemic due to a virus that comes out of a laboratory. This shows that they did not use their thinking brain for good, but for evil. Any way, i wouldn’t bet on human beings who live in a remote corner of the universe as if they are everything.

            For those who believe that God created the universe and everything in it, He cannot be anything else but supernatural and immaculate.

            There are some christians who say that we live in a post-christian era. Should we worry or not having in mind the things that are happening in the world today, and where it is going?

          • Haile S.

            Horizon,
            The debate is interesting, but I think we will always go in circle chasing each other’s idea on whether God created man in his image with a brain to use or did man created God in his image giving God man’s little brain or the big that he doesn’t use in full.
            Yes I do believe we are heading to a post-christian era, at least to its major revolution. The core concepts of christianity as you and I learned are getting challenged in many aspects including by the different christian denominations. One of the ‘new’ concepts that surprise me is that discussing with Pentcostes I gathered that if you are in their denomination, you are saved. They tell you “I am saved”, meaning if your outside them, you are not. What I learned in my childhood is you need to earn your salvation and that remains your life challenge, and only God at the day of judgement will decide which way you will go. I am not saying the revolution will be because of this concept, but just to mention a small example.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Horizon,

        From your comment you sound a traditional religious fanatic. You don’t look for religious freedom. You are not against atheist but also Against the religions you call them the product of the West. Hence, Hailat’s reaction is right on your flaws.

  • Paulos

    Selam Girmay,

    Glad you like it. We all are trying to educate each other so that we remain informed about relevant issues. It is healthy to have differences in opinions on myriad issues and the key is to engage in civil discourses without being abrasive. But again, as you said it, all in here are kind and I am sure in real life as well. God bless!

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi Awates,

    “RAINSTORMING” in Tigrinia language

    I will make an attempt. It is just an opinion not a fact.

    “ምጽርጋሕ ሓንጎል”

    Al-Arabi

    • Saleh Johar

      Hameed,
      I am after you and Emma:-)
      How about Gele nebelaHat

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Al-Ustaz Saleh Johar,

        If you ask me what corresponds this in English, I will say “for the genius”.

        ያሃ ወድ ጀውሃር ብጠር ምንየ:: ፈረርካ ዲብየ ምንገብእ ግል እምለጭቱ

        Al-Arabi

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Hameed Al-Arabi, I would suggest ዳህሳሳዊ ሓሳባት for brainstorming, just a thought.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Abraham H.

        I would suggest for “Brainstorming” translation “ሓንጎል ምጽሕታር” for a new fresh information.

        Al-Arabi

        • Haile S.

          Selam Hamid and Abraham,
          How about ርብርብ ሓንጎል or ርብርብ ሓሳባት.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hameed,

          How about this:
          Brainstorming = “ዋሕዚ-ሓሳብት”

  • Saleh Johar

    Hope,
    You copied and pasted an HTML coded text. It’s full of tags. Use text editor to clean your comments or on ms word choose normal to kill all codes.

  • David Samson

    Selam All,

    According to Radio Assena, here is the news:

    ጀነራል ስብሓት ኤፍሬም ብጥይት ተወጊኡ

    • Paulos

      Selam Davide,

      I guess the veracity of the news should be measured against what Gedab News has to say about it if at all.

    • Hope

      Selam David:

      I read and heard about it but hope to be a fake news and hoax one like that of your famous Radio Erena!

      If true ,the only suspects are either the TPLF Agents or the same Sadist and his Brutal Security Network as part of the cleansing agenda of the few left-over Potentials of Eritrea to challenge the Leadership and to take over.
      There was some rumors about an alleged competition and animosity between Gen Sibhat Efrem and Gen Philipos as well,which should not be surprising based on the past deadly similar competition and animosity among the corrupt PFDJ Generals!

      And if that is to be the case,then time for the Diaspora to DECLARE National Emergency or Martial Law in Eritrea.

      Rumors have it that Gen Sibhst Efrem expressed his reservations to PIA privately about what PIA is doing solo and the over all situation we have been debating.

      Gen Sibhat Efrem has been said to be the “cleanest” and the most “ innocent”/Reserved Govt Official and to be the BEST Alternative Leader for Eritrea.

      It is my nonstop prayers that this is just a fake news but if true,that he will recover fully and completely!

      Lord,Have Mercy on Eritrea and Eritreans !

      “ Elohe Elohe lemma sebrktani”

    • Paulos

      Davide,

      Or could this be the part two of the interview we all been waiting for as in a possible reform ala’ Abiy but through other contorted means? If that is the case, one wonders if the መንካዕ men and women are rolling over in their graves. Hope he fully recovers though for he is a father, a husband, a son and a brother.

      • David Samson

        Selam Paul,
        I do not think he is a key man and IA will have sleepless nights as well. He has been out of the picture since 2000. I hope he recovers too.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear David S., if this is true, then let them finish each other these notorious folks. They are just harvesting what they have sown for the past decades. This is the price to pay when they ignore the Eritrean people’s interests and desires, instead choosing to be the pawns of Wedi Medhin Berad. Now, as the dictator moves towards his final stages of compromising the Eritrean sovereignty for the sake of his narrow personal interests, he will be cleansing anyone that might dare to challenge him or that he thinks could challenge him. In the meantime, the Eritrean people and the toothless PFDJ as well as military watch on helplessly, how pathetic!!

      • Hope

        Selam Abreham:
        Prob unfair and quite inhumane to say so but let us hope that it is fake news but it could still be true considering the Cappo’s quite and quick round trip to the UAE as such brutal things happen when he sneaks out so as not to be blamed or suspected .
        As I said it, Gen Sibhat Efrem is to be /presumably “immune” from the atrocities the Eritreans are going through!

        In the event,”The Baduma incident” comes to one’s mind when such brutal incidents while the Cappo is “ out of town”!

        If it is fake news,Amanuel should STOP this nonsense,as we are fed up with his FAKE and hoax news .

        It does have a serious and negative political implications and on the psych and morale of the Eritreans.

      • George

        Hi Abraham H.

        Is interesting take you have there. You accused the leadership of Eritrea for compromising its sovereignty and yet you provide zero evidence. And you want them to die which will possibly embolden our enemies and definitely compromise our sovereignty. I don’t see how you can reconcile both. Again, You worried about for
        sovereignty of Eritrea, but you want Eritrean senior and seasoned leadership be killed. Not to mention they sacrificed 30 yourself liberating Eritrea. And-you-are-wishing-this-because-you-care-about-eritrean-people. And you actually think smart, patriotic Eritreans believe you. You strike me as a very logical person.

        • Abraham H.

          Dear George, we Eritreans don’t have other enemy than the dictator and his right hand men like Sebhat Efrem. Unless you want to give a blind eye, the evidence is ample out there for how these thugs have been and are compromising the Eritrean sovereignty by signing secret deals not known to the owner-the Eritream peope- with foreign entities. And where have you been when these cruel folks disappeared those amongst the best leaders of our struggle; when they discarded a democratically ratified Constitution, when they put tens of thousands of Eritreans in containers and fox holes without even notifying them of their crimes, or giving them a fair trial, when their brutal rule caused the exile of hundreds of thousands of Eritreans, when they contemptuously refered to those Eritreans who perished in the Mediterranean sea as mere Africans, deniying them a resting place within their country; when they monopolised every aspect of the economic life of the people, thereby causing misery and povery never seen in Eritreans’ history. No, these are criminals, not protectors of Eritrean sovereignty; it would be a blessing if all of them are wiped out, absolutely no regret.
          Btw, why are folks like you-Amiches, most of whom who have lived their entire lives in Ethiopia and never been and Eritrea, the most diehard supporters of the DIA regime?

          • David Samson

            Selam Ab,

            “No, these are criminals, not protectors of Eritrean sovereignty; it
            would be a blessing if all of them are wiped out, absolutely no regret.”

            Well said!

            I would not shade any tears either, but will always remember those innocent Eritreans who have never seen any daylight. General Philop is another criminal and monster who will probably face the same fate. Why should l I feel any sympathy for a criminal?

          • George

            Selam Abraham H

            You provided ZERO evidence for your unfounded claim that Eritrean sovereignty has been compromised. You got checked. You see, i like your type. One who drifts aimlessly in the wilderness called opposition. Keep on doing what you doing it suits us, Eritreans very well. Not to mention that parroting Woyane talking points will only expose uncreative nature. Now, i ask again what specific action has GOE taken that led you to believe Eritreas sovereignty has been compromised. This is opportunity for a meaningful discussion.

  • Peace!

    Hi Alex,

    Did you see that, lol. Sounds pretty much MC Hammer U can’t touch this/TPLF. What’s even funny is that TPLF cadres Daniel Berhane and Alula seem more reasonable than some of our “Eritrean” justice seekers.

    Peace!

  • Desbele

    Gergiis,

    The key word here is “Work” . Yes they worked in Eritrea.

  • Desbele

    Hi Alex,
    The root cause is – DIA instigated unnecessary war. Not his first time,
    Sudan, Yemen, Ethiopia, Djibouti. Will never stop as long as you give him excuse under a lame word “mistake”

  • Paulos

    Nitrikay,

    Do Africa and China have something fundamental in common? I say, they do. As they say, history is a memory of states. Both Africa and China share common memories. First, we need a context. Let’s see China first as in historical context.

    China existed way before any city-state or nation-state came into being, well, at least that is the core belief of the national collective psych. The word “China” itself derived from a Chinese word which means, “Middle Kingdom” but not a Kingdom located somewhere on Earth but a Kingdom situated in the middle of Heaven and Earth. When that is a collective perception, the Chinese also say that as much as there are no two Suns in the heavens, there can not be two Emperors here on Earth as well. There is only one Emperor and that is the Chinese Emperor, they believed.

    The above cited national mantra is augmented with Confucian credo where order is maintained through a hierarchy where if Socrates had said, “Know thyself”, Confucius on the other hand said, “Know thy-place.” When the hierarchical based order is with in the Chinese state, the perception about the outside world is not any different either. If China is the true representation of the heavens here on Earth, the rest are taken for subordinates if not “Barbarians.” It was with in these otherwise self importance and presumption that China first came in contact with the Western world in the 18th Century when Britain was the master of the waves as in the seas. And the Chinese Emperor who reigned over the Quing Dynasty couldn’t comprehend when he was first approached by the British envoy for the establishment of diplomatic relationship as he took it for an offense. The rationale being, any nation, a “barbarian” at that can not possibly be in an equal footing with the true Kingdom here on Earth. The envoy was sent back with a scorn after nine months long voyege. The rationale was compounded with the establishment of a millennia old bureaucratic system based on Confucian “Meritocracy” and disciplined “Legalism” where European paternalism or nepotism lost any meaning.

    Fast forward, in the early 1800s however, something drastic happened that had changed China for the next two centuries. The rising industrial and imperial power, Great Britain started to have a footing in China to expand not only its trade but also to own a political sphere in the region and the Qing Dynasty could only resist for so long when it tried to prevent British merchants from selling Opium to the Chinese people, for instance. The confrontation led to a war which is otherwise known as “The Opium War” and not only Britain won the war but also it heralded the beginning of an end to the last dynasty in China. The British didn’t end there but asked for more concessions when China was forced to cede Hong Kong and a decade later France followed suit when it wanted a share in the pie.

    The encroachment into China was further reinforced by the new rising power in the region–Japan and attached China before it took Manchuria, Taiwan and later on Korea which had been under China in the late 1800s. After trying to hold off the rising powers, the Qing Dynasty finally collapsed in 1912 and gave rise to chaos and Warlordism until the rise of Mao Zedong in the late 1940s when he brought China under the Communist rule which is still in power to this day.

    It is with in this backdrop that the influence of China ought to be seen particularly in Africa and Latin America where it also wants to restore or bring back its lost glory to the world stage. Particularly, its recent multi-trillion dollar investment other wise known as “OBOR” as in “One Belt One Road” to use its excess supply of steel, cement and capital for the construction of pipelines, railroads, corridor roads and naval ports that stretches from Pakistan all the way to the Horn of Africa.

    How about Africa? To cut to the chase, Africa during the “Scramble for Africa” in the late 1800s was divided into colonies and spheres of influence when particularly Britain was planning to connect its colonies through railroads that stretched from Cairo to Cape-town to transport resources where the inhabitants benefited less. In the final analysis, the legacy of colonialism left Africa with the specter of civil war and perpetually contested boarders between the nations as well. African leaders didn’t know what to do when imperial powers left Africa due to contingencies of the subsequent World Wars and had to look for anything that could pull them out of the abject poverty they found themselves in. And that is precisely the reason they say, China and Africa share common memories.

    I am not sure if you remember but in the year 2000, the “Economist” news magazine published a rather thought provoking article on its cover page titled, “The Hopeless Continent” and took the academia in particular in storm as it debated the merits of the article if at all. *The same year the article was published, the Chinese government convened first ever China-Africa forum in Beijing to discuss investment opportunities including in major infrastructures as in roads, railroads, higher learning institutions, health centers, agrarian sectors, basic goods manufacturing industrial zones and advanced technologies. African leaders, Meles Zenawi among them found a way out and went for it till the perennial images of the stigma of backwardness and chronic poverty is rooted out for good. In the years ahead, China also became the main trading partner with Africa when other great powers had given up on Africa.

    It was with in these drastic change and reality that President Barack Obama saw a nation in a rapid transformation with a double digit economic performance when he made his way from Bole Airport to the Minilik Palace in 2015 in Addis where the once poster child of “Live-Aid” was no more. Few days after his arrival, President Obama opened his speech at African Union when he said, “I stand before you as a proud American and also the son of an African.” The tone of the connection was striking and powerful but was it too late?

    Certainly, one can make the argument that, the debt burden incured on Africa is huge but it has helped the continent to come out of chronic and abject poverty. The challenge is not on how to pay off the debt but on how to come out later on from what the Economists call “Middle-Income Trap” where nations [Brazil, for instance] struggle to get to High-Income status which is incredibly harder than to come out of abject poverty.

    *It was taken from the book, “Easternization: Asia’s Rise And America’s Decline From Obama To Trump And Beyond” by Gideon Rachman.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Dr. Paulos,

      I do not know how our brother Nitricc goaded you to spare time to grace this forum with brilliant summary of a huge subject matter of political history, and connected eloquently two regions and peoples that are endowed with human and material resources to take over the world stage in not too long future. Candidly, sir, in resourcefulness and content what you have produced is equivalent to a day’s lecture of a college professor to a graduate class. Thus, sincere and humble commendation is due on my part.

      It is judicious and clever on your part to had started your venture by first stating the psyche that peoples who have sense of history and cumulative cultural reservoir to develop psyche to define their place in Planet earth and by extension the universe. That is what the Chinese people did as you have skilfully summarized. Many historically placed civilizations do follow that patterns. The Japanese, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroasterians in ancient Persia, Asyrians and many civilizations almost all continents have similar perceptions of self.

      Not long ago in one of discussion forums of our Ethiopian brothers, l was caught with gracious surprise when I listened to an anecdote an Epistomologist from Afar nationality in Ethiopia, who lives and works in SwedeN, told the audience how the Afar community define themselves in relation to others. He said ” እኛ ኣፋሮቾ ስር ነን፣ ሌሎች ሁሉ ቅርንጫፍ። ግን ስር ኣለ ቅርንጫፍ ደግሞ ዛፍ ኣይሆንም” – we the Afar are the root, and others are branches; but the root cannot become a tree without its branches. This is a profound state of mind and self perception, especially when one would consider it within the ontext of the archaelogical findings in the region about the origin of human species. Here I have Lucy in mind.

      • Paulos

        Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

        You are very kind. Many thanks for those kind words. You are right, the self-entitlement is shared with the countries you mentioned as well but I didn’t know the Afars shared similar beliefs. That is really interesting to say the least where it could have been challenging for them to compromise had they got stuck with it when the world around them is changing in a microcosm of global village. Again, thanks for sharing.

  • Brhan

    Hi all,

    I believe only academicians through an academy of the language can translate terms from English to Tigrignya.

    I am not aware if we have Academy of the Tigrignya language either in Eritrea or Tigray, Ethiopia. If we do not have, it is sad. If we have ( and please indicate) I strongly believe to outreach them

    I am afraid to try to give my input in this discussion. I am not a linguist.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Brhan,
      We have an unofficial academy that functions as one, but cannot by any standard called an academy, i.e. the Ghedli Academy. This ‘institution’ is the one that has chained down all institutions that have flourished after independence. Instead of giving birth to academies of different sectors, it imprisoned and diminished the infant ‘academies’ we had. Ghedli academy run by people who instead of improving themselves to instruct others as replacements and expansions, stayed where they were in the jungle of thinking and trying to persuade us their antiquated way of working is the best and unique for the country. Please try to turn the pages of the single newspaper Hadas Ertra that fills its pages with elementary physics and mathematics and life history of a 16th century Bavarian mathematician that has no basis to be published in a major newspaper. A newspaper that publishes about animals that in not even found in its continent. When I read that newspapers I feel I went back and living my junior high or highschool years going to British council or American library to check encyclopedias everytime our teachers mentions a natural law or talk of a discoverer or a philosopher and that that teacher is still there, just he came from the eritrean jungle to publish the same thing in the number one newspaper of the country. Yes we apparently have an Academy, a pathetic one called Ghedli that kept the country immature stagnating at its infancy.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,

        When the know how intellectuals are scattered all over the world, we don’t expect institutions of academy whatsoever with the kind of regime we have. When you think about it and the potentials we had, it makes you cringe.

    • hagos

      salam Brhan
      Memhr Amanuel Sahle if i am not mistaken that is what he is doing in Mekele University

  • Selam All,

    I am a late comer in this discussion about the tigrigna translation of the phrase “zero-sum game”. Here is my take in amharic, “ዉጤት (ጥቅም) ኣልባ ትግል፣”. I think that something similar has been said by A.H., in tigrigna, if i am right. I would rather choose the word “ትግል”, instead of the word “ጨዋታ”.

    In addition, in both languages, amharic and tigrigna, we can strive to coin new words, or even introduce words by borrowing from the so many languages of our diverse ethnic groups, so as to create one rich common language, keeping of course, the local languages intact. Language institutions could help here.

    This could be a solution in literature. It could help to explain social and other phenomena in a much scholarly way. Nevertheless, my problem is when it comes to scientific terminologies. They depend on latin and greek, and even the scientific western world had/has to go to these two ancients languages, if they want to coin new scientific terminologies, not of course always, but most of the time.

    If we try to coin scientific terminologies right from the start in both languages, it is going to be an uphill travel and we will never reach perfection. Much more, the fact that we are not going to teach sciences in our schools and universities in amharic or tigrigna, do not support our choice. Why not save ourselves the trouble, as much as science and technology are concerned, by borrowing western scientific terminologies as they are. I do not think that there will be sort of identity problem here (our biggest and insurmountable problem), for science is international.

    Finally, i believe that in literature the two languages can shine. In scientific writings we shouldn’t over-estimate both languages, because we do not have a scientific tradition.

    • Admassie

      Selam Horizon,

      I am not certain, but I think the phrase “ዜሮ ድምር ፖለቲካ” is in use. For me this seems more plausible translation in capturing the gist of the “zero sum game”.

      Otherwise I agree with the rest of your note.

      Admassie A.

      • Selam admassie,

        Thanks. I was not aware of the amharic translation “ዜሮ ድምር ፖለቲካ”.

        How i understand “zero-sum game” is that , there is no winner, and both parties are losers. That is the reason i tried to use the final result, i.e. the futile antagonism that does not bring a positive result or benefit anyone of the two parties.

        • Admassie

          Selam Horizon,

          You are perfectly right and we all are on the same page regarding what “zero sum game” means.

          የ”ዜሮ ድምር ፖለቲካ ” ትርጉሙም እንዲሁ አንተ እንዳልከው ድምር ውጤቱ ዜሮ የሆነ ሽኩቻ ማለት ነው።( አሉታዊ ውጤት)። “ፖለቲካ” የሚለው ቃል አንድንዴ ሽኩቻ፣ ሽውኪያ፣ መጠላለፍ የሚሉትን ድርጊቶች ተክቶ ያገለግላል። “ውይ ውይ… እዛ ቤት ያለ ፖለቲካ! ” ብሎ እንደማለት። ታድያ “ፖለቲካ” ከላይ የጠቀስኳቸውን ቃላት የሚተካ ከሆነ ድርጊቱ የሚፈጸመው በተቃርኖ በቆሙ ከአንድ በላይ በሆኑ ወገኖች ነውና ድምር ውጤቱ ዜሮ የሆነው የእነዚህ ወገኖች ሽኩቻ ይሆናል። አደናግሬህ እንደማይሆን ተስፋ አለኝ።

  • Peace!

    Hi Emma,

    Would that apply to PFDJ too?

    Peace!

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; it is nice trying to define what zero sum game mean in Tigrigna but let’s get to the needy greedy business of the nation. I just read this Ethiopian writer’s opinion and his advice to Eritrean economic path and I can’t help appreciate the writer and share it with you.

    “Eritrea’s financial system, antiquated by any modern standards, speaks to the underdevelopment of the country. But the country would do better not to take the path Ethiopia took as it gradually opens up to the world, writes Ambessaw Assegued
    In opening its economy to private banking, foreign investment and the inevitable influx of influences from the West and China, Eritrea will be well advised to look southward and learn a lesson. Ethiopia is the poster child of the debt-ridden and frenzied stampede of development. Ethiopia’s progress, fuelled largely by massive borrowing from China and
    European largess, has increased income inequality, led to displacement and features a poor if not failed infrastructure. So far, Eritrea has largely avoided the hazards of the
    un-finished megaprojects; the consequences of ill-considered infrastructure construction; the unplanned ghettos of concrete tenements; and the unfulfilled promises of grandiose ventures and industrial planning. But this success in avoiding the pitfalls of hasty development does not excuse Eritrea from the militant and uncompromising pose it took toward the world that led it to be locked out, frozen and left on its own for nearly two decades”

    “the unplanned ghettos of concrete tenements” lol this what you hear the likes of Brehe-Y and the TPLF illiterates call development. What an honest take. Very refreshing! The question is what financial path shall Eritrea take? If any Ethiopian or -Eritrean economists
    out there can you shine some idea on this one and educate us. It is clear Ethiopia financial path is the failed one, so what shall Eritrea follow?

    • Haile S.

      Selam Nitricc,

      Thank you for highlighting this article. The commentary looks interesting, need to be read in full. Though the writer’s suggestion to avoid unhinged borrowing etc is great, we should be careful not attribute the economic emptiness Eritrea is facing to a deliberate thoughtful plan by the regime in implementing such judicious reflexions. It is rather the result of its pure incompetency covered by defensive reclusiveness. It is scary to see now the regime looking for italian largess, seemingly a pavlovian reflex for old habits. The regime is over-aged and seems stuck on old childhood memories when Asmara was flourishing from its colonial legacy. The world has changed tremendously. The regime needs to overhaul its way of working, it needs to bring together its resident and exiled able young professional of various economic fields, visit countries and learn from instead of getting stuck in unproductive pride that has already over served its purpose.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,

        The “Pavlovian reflex for old habits” is spot on, as to the nature of the Asmara regime. That expression will go to the file of expressions,

      • Nitricc

        Hi Haile; I can’t post the link due to the forum rules but the article is written by Fortune of the Ethiopia and the full article is posted on meskerem.net. I really like the honesty of the Ethiopian writer. There is no secret what he has to say about Eritrea financial situation; however the way he exposed the Ethiopian finical debacle is stunning. Now, I do agree with you about the question PFDJ capability of handling the new financial path of the future of the nation. But there is no doubt to my mind how PFDJ handled the war economy to the tee. I am not an economist capable of convincing with numbers but I can relay to simple commonsense. I mean a country under sanction, a country guarding her border against an enemy of 100 million population, a country who placed her every youth to military and to a refugee comps is simply miracle. However; I don’t think PFDJ is capable handling the ins and outs of today finical scrutiny. They are too old who were good and best for the old stuff but I don’t think they are fit for what Eritrea is about to get in to. The sky is the limit and the time Eritreans gut, creativity, resilience and the Do attitude to the test is upon us. the question is, what can we all do?

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Hailiat S and Nitricc,

        An interesting exchange of thoughts on equally interesting stuff that deserve space and attention in this forum. But we Eritreans are yet to put ourselves in place as normal state and speak about a formal economy. Eritrea has no economy because there cannot be an economy without set of codes and laws that project and quantify the material resources and human potential of the country that can generate ordered budgeting and plannings essential to management of an economy. What we have in Eritrea is a chaotic extension of the bush economy from the regime’s days in Sahel.

        It is an economy that runs and operates by decrees issued by just one man. Its salient natures is እሙናት ብዘይ ገደብ ዝህብትሙሉ፣ ህዝቢ ድማ ዝድኽየሉን ዝበታተነሉን ኣምባገበናዊ ቁጠባ እዩ። We can see this in failure of any economic venture that we heard of its initiation save the regime owned expoilative construction or trading projects that combined graft, rent seeking and power wielding to extract maximum value from poor exploited labour of the youth.

        An example of failed ventures is the airline service that needed the approval of the despot just to pay arears of landing fees in airports. Even Hagos Kisha could not dare to direct the concerned bank to release the required funds. Whenever he was asked, Hagos told the airline people ኣነ እንታይ ክገብር ንእኡ ሕተትዎ እምበር። Then, you had to pass the hardle called Yemane monkey.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Ismail; you said “ It is an economy that runs and operates by decrees issued by just one man.” I have to admit the above characterization of the Eritrean government may serve its value under witch Eritrea situation was facing. I really believe if it wasn’t for that kind of single decision making mechanism; I really wondered if Eritrea would have prevailed giving the magnitude of the challenge that was Eritrea on head on collision. That was
          then and we are here now and those one man decrees must die and the nation must move forward with new, inventive and accountable system of finances. Eritrea must move to catch up with rest of the world. And to do that the old system must cease to exist and let the young educated Eritreans take over. Eritrea could attract millions of investors but if we continue with same system we have then the nation will fall face down to never get up and stand within her two feet’s. this is the time to make it or break it for Eritrea but if we continued with same system and leadership not only the break is unavoidable and guaranteed but the consequences are deadly. That why I really appreciate this Ethiopian writer for calling things for what they are, be it in Ethiopia and Eritrea. Eritrea have all the reference point she needs to make things right but who is doing the referencing something entirely different, PFJD can’t do the job.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Nitrickay,

            Taking out the credit you gave to the despot, who doesn’t deserve, this would have been a clean comment from your side. Hence you get my upvote.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Nitricc,

            I agree with you on your thoughts that the focus should be projected towards the future. I believe correlation of the present and future is more important than what holds our past. Sure, we can and must learn useful lessons ; but dwelling on our past follies as means and end cannot translate to virtues, while at the same time not losing sight of those who committed wrongs and excesses in the name of the people walk away with impunity. Justice should get chance to be applied at proper lawfully established venues.

            But, allow me to pose a question or two on a point you stated in response to my rejoinder. Is it, in all honesty, “single decision making mechanism” – one-man whimsical i. e. – can be a virtue and aberration at the same time? Wasn’t that way of decision making the culprit for ” the magnitude of challenges that (set) Eritrea on head on collision”? Do you think it is right to reward a person who caused those challenges in the first place, and then held the people hostage to carry the multifaceted burden he himself had created? Do you think what our people have gone through, and still do, had there been collective and legally institutionalized decision making mechanisms right away after 1993? I would love, sure others too, to read you honest thoughts in a way a member of a fair jury would certainly do.

    • Ayneta

      Nitricc:
      Whatever the writer wrote, it may give sense. But don’t forget: you can’t divorce economic policies from politics. In fact, the latter is a crucial prerequisite for the former. You have to have the right political intention and willingness to enact the right economic path. In my opinion, genuine political mindset precedes and underpins economic/financial growth. Economic path is an emergent property of a healthy political atmosphere which is critically lacking in Eritrea. Therefore, it is futile to think of healthy economic change while IA and the toxic environment he has created are looming over the the country. It follows that your admiration of the writers idea, though appealing, is good-for-nothing at best.

      • Paulos

        Selam Ayneta,

        I absolutely agree. Please keep the good counter arguments coming. Thanks.

    • Paulos

      Nitrikay,

      Many thanks for sharing the article with the rest of us. I certainty do not agree with the theme but it is thought provoking to say the least. Will try to comment on it tmrw. Please keep them coming. Thanks again.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Nitricc,

      Since you mentioned my name, I will bother to respond to you. You said:

      “the unplanned ghettos of concrete tenements” lol this what you hear the likes of Brehe-Y and the TPLF illiterates call development..

      First of all, you need to grow up and you need to be able to take different opinion. If you can disagree and make your points, if you can’t don’t make up stories.

      As a matter of fact, this topis is of great interest to me Re: Eritrea economy and it’s future. Before I share what I think, let me remind you what my positions were with regards to Ethiopian economy.

      I was never in favor of excessive borrowing to inflate growth. I know there is a place to borrow money, that will be able to help the economy in the long run and generate income such as infrastructure, utilities, toll bridges, subway systems, telecom, hospitals, schools etc. They will create jobs, improve living standards, and help improve development.

      I am NEVER in favor of borrowing money to help government coffers and for consumption and spending. For example, the money Greece borrowed to host Olympics or the money the borrow to pay out interest rates.

      I was totally against the Ethiopian government spending to expand the port of Djibouti, build roads, build trains and many more because they could not make a political decision, that would have solved the stalemate with Eritrea. People like Abi told me, to go and mind my business when I mentioned the over 4 billion dollars spending.

      I am against the IMF and their “finiancial advice” and against the privatization of the Ethiopian Telecom, Ethiopian Airlines and Ethiopian banks. I don’t believe there will be net gain in creating jobs, all it will do is, take away the jobs and replace with robots or over seas and profit will fly out side of the country to the hands of foreginers who have no interest in helping the countries develop but suck the profit out.

      In other words, I would only allow foreign investment in tangible assets that can’t move else where such as building power plants, building highways, building transit, building hotels and resorts, building hospitals, schools, manufacturing, construction etc…

      Anything that can be automated such as banking, telecom, will be a NET LOSS to the country and the economy over the long term.

      Advice to Eritrea. The problem with Eritrea is we do not have an accurate information in the state of it’s economy. For example, how much money does Eritrea owes, how much money the Eritrean government have borrowed? Without knowing these, it’s hard to make a proper analysis to determine what the state of it’s finances are.

      If the government practices what it preaches, no foreign aid, no loans, etc. and it was doing in it’s own then my hats off. But I think it will be different story.

      Since you seem to appericiate this article by an Ethiopian, I will invite you to read a couple of articles as well. Please visit Eritreadigest.com. There you will find the following articles:

      1) An Ethiopian in Eritrea: An Ode To Asmarinos

      2) The Untold Story of 25th and 26th Round – Sawa (Part 1 & 2)

      You see, you want to give credit to IA and his government for the good the Eritrean people have. I can tell you it’s far from truth. IA has done nothing to help or shape the behavior of the Eritrean people. We had it and we still have it and it has nothing to do with PFDJ or IA. Please read article 1 and you will see the observation of an Ethiopian about Eritrean people.

      The second point will show you the contradiction the Ethiopian reporter/ good wisher article is all about. It shows, how the PFDJ is making life a night mare for the Eritrean young who will be the bedrock of it’s economy. Listening the narration of the article, it actually made me some what change my total condemnation of SAWA and there may be some positive aspects of it as was told, if it was to stick to it’s original plans.

      But abuse and the sense less loss of life that occurs for no other reason but to just simply make the youth obedient will not make Eritrea economy viable any time soon.

      Eritrea largest export will continue be it’s youth as long as the Eritrean regime is in power.

      Berhe

    • Girmay

      Hello dear Nitric, thank you for bringing this article. I have mixed feeling about this article. I think this article has positive and negative points. The positive points are the articles reminded us both Ethiopians and Eritreans to build an honest and regulated economic relationship. I think that is a great idea. The article also calls for both Eritrea to learn from Ethiopia’s mistakes about excessive borrowing, I believe that is a good idea too.
      On the otherhand my initiation tells me the writer of this article is dancing in circles to diminish Ethiopia’s economic progress under TPLF/EPRDF. I would have said the writer is genuine if he gave EPRDF credit for bringing Ethiopia from the ice age.
      Before EPRDF took power the only infrastructure Ethiopia had was a moutain of egos among the few Ethiopian educated elites. They told the world Ethiopia was great, because they never ventured behind Addis Abeba. EPRDF through its agressive development model taught Ethiopians and the world that Ethiopia is more than Addis Abeba. In the past 27 years many cities developed and they are competing with Addis Abeba.
      Therefore, the author of the article should also call for honest discussion and reflection about Ethiopia’s economic progress. For the above reasons I will say that the author of the said article is dishonest and revengful article. Very clever way to defame modern Ethiopian economic progress.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Aman (Mekusi),

        Generally, I have the impression with the Eritrean mindset, that we don’t welcome and embrace good things from our adversaries. We always talk about our uniqueness and usually we strive to be different. So don’t expect us to learn even if the despot is gone. That is who we are. Me think. 🤔

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Aman (Mekusi),

        Generally, I have the impression with the Eritrean mindset, that we don’t welcome and embrace good things from our adversaries. We always talk about our uniqueness (and I don’t) and usually we strive to be different. So don’t expect us to learn even if the despot is gone. That is who we are. Me think. 🤔

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Girmay,

        Did I heard that he will go to inaugurate a new industry somewhere in the South? Was that industrial plant came to existence when he came in power? Keep in mind, this bogus leader will cliam that the industrial park in Hawassa also came as a miracle under his leadership, because he told us that the last 28 years was the dark era of the Ethiopian people. Yegermal.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Nitricc
      I think the writer motivation is to go with current flow and diminish the achievement of the last Ethiopian government lead by TPLF. In my opinion it was right to invest in infrastructure for future development and it is there for everyone to see, even though the current government supported by the medemer group are working hard to underestimate them, while the current PM not having enough days of the week to inaugurate them. What matters now is what is the current government to do with them?
      Another point which Eritrea need to learn from Ethiopia is the political side. The last Ethiopian government got it wrong, as they were playing tricks with people’s fundamental rights and when they run out of tricks they found them selves where they are now. Political settlement is foundation to economic success. It is basic rights for people to choose who will govern them as well as fire it (him). This what the current Eritrean regime (IA) need to learn from Ethiopia.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi George,

    As I have understood from your comment, correct me if I am mistaken, you have a colour problem. Colour has becom resistant to comprehension. I intended from the colour, the phonies, fake Eritreans (ቅዳሓት). The matter seems to be, “ንለባም መስለሉ ኣበይ ክስሕቶ ንዓሻ ደርጋሓሉ ኣበይ ከይፈልጦ”. I hope succeeded in making it clear.

    Al-Arabi

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Dear Awates,

    An attempt to translate, ” ZERO SUM GAME”

    1- ባዶ ስፍሪ ጸወታ

    2- ተረባሓይ ኣልቦ ጸወታ

    3- ባዶዊት ግድል ጸወታ

    4- ፍረ ኣልቦ ጸወታ

    5- ባዶ እቶት ጸወታ

    6- ተሳዓራይ ኣልቦ ጸወታ

    Al-Arabi

    • Blink

      Dear Hamid
      You have been my favourite on the issue of Tigrinya words , remember long time ago you used to bring many Tigrinya words that you said were adapted from Arabic and all your comments were my favorite to copy and put them in my small box .

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Blink,

        Honestly, sometimes your opinions stop me because it tallies with mine. Frankly, your problem is you fight with weak and hide from the powerful and those who have authority and in a position to make changes. You leave those who are capable to make us live in our homeland, and knuckle down on those who are incapable in making difference, change is with those who are in power not with those who are deprived from it. The moment your focus becomes on the decision makers, drivers, we will be in the same wavelength.

        Al-Arabi

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hameed,

      “ፍረ ኣልቦ ጸወታ“ is more relevant and closer in meaning to “zero sum game”. Good try.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Al-Ustaz Amanuel Hidrat,

        Thank you very much for your evaluation of my attempt.

        Frankly, if I am allowed to choose, I will choose, ” 1- ባዶ ስፍሪ ጸወታ”. I hope you give it a second look.

        Again, thanks and regards,

        Al-Arabi

      • Saleh Johar

        Enma and Hameed,
        Why do you insist on inserting tseweta (game) in it? It’s alien to all Eritrean cultures. For instance, in the west they say War Games, we call it lmimmed or tedribat. Here is a litmus test: imagine meeting Eritreans who had no exposure to other culture, would they understand what you are saying? Would they relate to it? Is there no situation in our context that describes it? If it is necessary to adopt a term, should it be inline with our languages and way of life? Just a thought.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi SG,

          I would have said to them :

          “aykeserna aykesebna” or
          “rekisna Haba”.

          Ezi nay Tigrina, Wala aysemamAnn eyu. Egrigir eyu zebleni. Sorry Emma.

          Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe (Abi-seb),

            Don’t worry, we have anti-emetic on shelf until you get use to them.✌️

          • sara

            ato ..aman
            i was chuckling when i read this and my colleague asked me ..whats going on… i cant translate to her what berhe said because she is asian ….. and i kept chuckling……… you made my day… thanks to you and berhe.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam sis Sara,

            I am not a humor person, but sometimes in between seriousness we need them. Of course I start to learn them here. Am glad I made it your day,

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            The more words I learn from Ghedli’s Tigrigna, the more I feel horrified. Take, for instance, the meaning of these two words:

            Mdskal—frozen.

            You can only freeze Butter(Tsemi), not a human being.

            Mislsal—To make some redundant. You can make redundant to a
            tree in Tigrigna language? How crazy!

            You see how literalism destroys the fabric of a language.

            We need not only get rid of PFDJ ideology but also the corrupt package it brought with itself.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Dave,

            “ምድስካል ንጠስሚ” ካብ ተንቀሳቀሲ (movable) ፈሳሲ ናብ ዘይንቀሳቀስ ዝረገኤ ጠስሚ ምቅያር ምኻኑ እድሕሪ ተሳማሚዕና: “ምድስካል ንሰብ” ከአ አብ ዝኾነ ስራሕ ክዋፈር ምኽላእ ማለት’ዩ:: Renember, we know in English words that has multiple meaning depending their applications. Hence, why can’t we have similar applications in our language? Can’t we?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            I don’t think there is anything wrong with translating and for words to have multiple meaning.

            For me personally, it’s that resistance that I have to change and to endorse anything that comes from EPLF specially. It is very hard for me to accept they do what they do in good faith or for the better of the society, specially the big boss. A lot of people think he is great at coining words but I think he does what he does to show and pretend to be knowledgeable and great.

            Another point that irritates me is, its seems that no body bothers to ask, is there such word / phrase in local language that is equivalent or similar before going on a venture to translate them.

            In the example David gave, here is what I think.

            ምድስካል – This word should be erased from the vocabulary all together because, the act of ምድስካል have no usage in a society. It’s torture and we should eliminate the practice all together so it never happens. The person should be employed, fired, hired, laid off, temporary on leave, long term on leave etc. Not ምድስካል, frozen. It’s waste of resources and it’s physiological torture. So if there is no word for such practice, then I think we know why.

            The second word is ምጽልጻል, and I don’t know I agree for it’s use. What we should ask before inventing such word is, there was employment in Eritrea before, and with it, hiring, firing, laying off people so what words have we used in the past? Why reinvent the wheel.

            I think these would be suffice to me:

            ካብ ስራሕ ተሰናቢቱ – laid off
            ካብ ስራሕ ተሰጊጉ – fired.

            Another example, saay / AT has touched in the past is ትሕቲ ዕድመ
            or underage.

            There is a word for it, ዓቅሚ አዳም ዘይበጽሐ/ት. Why invent these word..AT I think said, the mare use of the orginal word would invoke the thought of religion and PFDJ is anti religion so they have to invent new word.

            As to the word physics – I think the simple answer for me would be ፊዚክስ. I don’t see any need to translate the word but rather develop it’s meaning so it’s understood well. And if can’t be pronounced well then develop something similar and that’s really how the rest of the world go about do this kind of stuff, no?.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe (Abi-Seb),

            I agree to be erased those words created for his own purpose like “ምጽልጻል” that are used for the sole purpose of the organization to fire the civil servants already in the institutions to replace them by members of the organization. I get that. But still we will confront with new terminologies and words hard to find equivalents, then we will still are obliged either to invent them or take them as is. So I am not against those we could have them in the pool of our cultural language. Not at all. Like all kinds of knowledges the are in continuum development, languages do develope to serve the all disciplines of knowledges. That is what I am saying.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Al-Ustaz Saleh Johar,

          I think the term “war games’ is a new terminology to the English culture like “war planes”, “space war”, “TV”, “Telephone”, “Radio” “lamp”, “fuel power”, “petrol”, “Bus” “Pasta”, “ice cream” and so on. The term “zero sum game” is also a new term to the English culture; therefore, to make it seem very near to the culture targeted when we translate, I think it is not bad. We have two choices either to take it as it is or make some changes in it; for instance, radio, telephone, mobile-phone, maccarona, capochino, etc.

          Al-Arabi

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Hameed,
            For a term to impose itself in a language and evolve into being local is natural and that how languages borrow from each other, gradually. But I am objecting to cumbersome phrases that are too alien to a culture, not necessary, and do not fit seamlessly into another language. For example, I cannot say “DeHrebaita” without a chuckle because I feel I am committing a crime against a language 🙂 There is another one I just heard from a friend, eti zaagol tederbiyu, and that is supposed to be “the die is cast”.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Johar,

            You are right to oppose translation like “Dehrebaita” which has already a meaning in the language, sometimes may be not applicable to use in public. Also, literal translation, “eti zaagol tederbiyu” which totally doesn’t agree in meaning with the English term, but this should not hinder us from searching exact translation or with some changes. Specially, when it is an academic terminology.

            Al-Arabi

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haw Hameed,

            You have said “which has already a meaning”. What do we have for “background” in our tigrigna then? “Dehribaita” is already part of our literature now. If we have it will still be reconsidered.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Hidrat,

            I can propose, “ውህሉል ተሞኩሮ”.

            Al-Arabi

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Hameed,

            If you chose for “background” ውህሉል ተሞኩሮ, then what will you give for “collective experience”?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Hidrat,

            “Collective experience” could be translated to “ጥሙር ተሞኩሮ”. This is an experience for more than one person such as: a group, a society,

            Example:

            Collective protest
            Collective power

            Al-Arabi

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Abu Salah,

          Let us agree one thing as a rule. With continuous “new developments of science” and with the “evolutionary changes of cultures”, new “terminologies” and new “vocabularies” will come along with it to serve the new realities. In such scenario if we don’t have them (keep in mind the limits of our language, then either we “invent” them or “borrow” them into our cultural languages. I think that is the norm in the continuum’s of change.

          I sincerely believe our ghedli has contributed in the development of tigrigna language in the field of socio-political sciences, socio-economics, philosophy, and basic clinical words and diagnosis. They become already familiar to the public and are common in the service of our literatures. New words and terminologies sounds strange and sometimes make you feel allergic at the beginning, but eventually we will be used to them once they keep to appear in our literatures. So for new foreign vocabularies either we invent them or borrow them. On foreign expressions, generally, I agree with you that we could get equivalent expression from our cultural language. Besides, until we standardized them let them bloom like the Chinese saying.

          In our culture: game is “ጸወታ” and exercise is “ልምምድ”

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            Your praise of Ghedli in the development of tigrigna vocabulary is praiseworthy. But as you mentioned, getting used to some of the words and expressions is not easy and ‘strange and sometimes make you feel allergic’ as you put it. Some of the words that I read recently that personally irritate me are:
            በዓል ተባዒሉ so commonly used now
            ትሕዝቶ …. ተደብቲሩ
            ዋዕላ …. ተቓኒዑ
            The last 2 are from Hadas ertra of yesterday.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Hailat,

            Don’t worry, at one point, for purposes of our common literature, they will be standardized. Once they are standardized, they will be taught in schools. So many from those that irritates you will be eliminated and some will be kept to enrich our literature. Unfortunatey, we will go for sometimes without standardizing our vocabularies because of the known reasons. But for now let the pool of the vocabularies expanded, in order to have many options for picks.

    • Consolation

      Hello Al-Arabi,

      You seem to have totally misunderstood the meaning of a s zero-sum game. Here is what google says “In game theory and economic theory, a zero-sum game is a mathematical representation of a situation in which each participant’s gain or loss of utility is exactly balanced by the losses or gains of the utility of the other participants.”

      In other winds, it is a game in which there is a winner and a loser, sor of, your loss is my gain. Most games are necessarily like that. There must be a winner and a loser. The point is when two sides get together tor cooperative engagement, t hey need to make sure that the game they play is not a zero-sum game.

      በላዒን ተበላዒን ዘለዎ ጽምዶ is the idea. Now look for words that express that meaning!

      • Paulos

        Consolation,

        Very true and that is where the art of diplomacy comes in to find a win-win situation. For instance, war revolves around zero-sum-game while diplomacy focuses on how all the parties come out winners.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Dr. Paulos,

          War revolves around a WIN IT GAME, not around a “Zero Sum Game”. Mostly, diplomacy that revolves around a “Zero Sum Game”.

          Al-Arabi

          • Paulos

            Selam Al-Arabi,

            The concept could be tricky. As you know, if you add a negative value with an equal but a positive value, it gives you zero. For instance, [-5 + 5] = 0.

            Now consider this: If your gain [which is a positive thing] is at the expense of someone else’s lose [which is a negative thing], the combined result is zero, hence, the term “Zero-Sum-Game.” And that is what war does. But on the other hand, diplomacy looks for ways in which both parties benefit which is one party’s gain is another party’s gain as well.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Dr. Paulos,

            I think, you enter a war to win it all, and you enter diplomatic solutions to gain and lose at the same time, or there will not be a solution. That means, you didn’t score your wishes; you and your opponents are on equal state. No one has gained it all or lost it all. In a war either you win or being defeated. Mostly, diplomatic solutions are -5+5 =0, give and take.

            Al-Arabi

          • Saleh Johar

            Hameed,
            This is never-ending 🙂 how about win-win situation?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Saleh Johar,

            Really it is a never-ending trend for issues that require scholarly researches by institutions. I just propose while I am jogging. I propose for win-win “ኩሉ ተረባሓይ”.

            Example:
            Creating jobs on one hand, and preserving culture on the other hand.

            Al-Arabi

          • Saleh Johar

            Hameed,
            But that assumes there was no instance in our culture were we described such a situation! We have to search in our languages before we try to import Anglo-Saxon terms that doesn’t fit well in our Semitic languages. The best translation I heard is one m, courtesy of the EPLF: muHarik for motor. ATA Etta muHarik endeya tebelasya? Semitic words fit seamlessly.

          • Ismail AA

            Hi SJ again
            You are correct the Semetic roots are more fertile in providing equivalents in other languages blanched from them. For example Abuna in Arabic became Abun in Geez and then Amharic and Tigrinya.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Saleh Johar,

            You have made me laugh, thank you very much. The m is crucial.

            Al-Arabi

          • Ismail AA

            Selam SJ,
            Good you proposed the counterpart in confusing matters. But, do not lough at me Its translation will be ስዕር-ስዕር. It the burden of backwardness.

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Ismail,
            I still hold we are off track and should get away from thinking in English. Think in our local languages and you will find a term that will describe what you want to describe. Still there are many words that need to bevtranslated, technical for instance, but everyday words do not need to be imported simply because we are thinking in a foreign language. What is Afro-mechanics, or organic food, offsight. Man! I can complicate it even more 🙂

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hello Consolation,

        It appears, you have misunderstood me. Let me try to explain in a simple way. The term is composed of three components:

        1- ZERO represents LEVEL
        2- SUM represents EXERTED FATIGUE
        3- GAME represents COMPETITOR/PUZZLE

        The soul of the translation should comprise the three factors: level, fatigue and competitor; thus, I attempt to translate it in the following:

        1- ስፍሪ ኣልቦ ግትሚ/ግድል/ቅልስ
        2- ፍረ ኣልቦ ግትሚ
        3- ተረባሓይ ኣልቦ ግትሚ
        4- እቶት ኣልቦ ግትሚ
        5- ተሳዓራይ ኣልቦ ግትሚ

        I hope there is a positive difference.

        In Arabic the meaning of “Zero Sum Game” is: المعادلة الصفرية

        Al-Arabi

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hameed,

          Isn’t “ግጥሚ” ወይ “ግጥምያ” should be “face on”? If it is, then “game” is “ጸጥታ”

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Hidrat,

            I think when we play we face our opponents. I found game ” ግትሚ” in a Tigrinia dictionary.

            Al-Arabi

  • AMAN

    Greeting all forumers,
    .
    It seems we Eritreans have had more freedom
    under the previous woyane regime of PMHD
    than the woyne regime of PMAA?
    Are you sure our eritrea is not on regression?
    and being taken over by late comer new ethio
    states and nations like the SNNP, Oromia and
    BGumuz…. etc.
    I am kind of worried for the future of Eritrea.
    It seems it is in decline and regressing?
    Just concerned whether as a citizen or as a
    neighbor whatever you would like to call me.
    Are we being lead right and are we leading our
    Nation right?

  • Desbele

    George,
    Were you the one who wrote the editorial ” Illegal African Immigrants” during Lampedusa? THEY ARE ERITREANS!!!

    • George

      Hi D

      No, i did not write thw editorial nor do i know an editorial existed until now.

  • Desbele

    Selam Alex,
    It is the PEOPLE of Tigray not kilill that hosted Eritreans.
    Why dont the UN + NGO help Eritreans in their own country?
    Are UN/NGO helping Eritreans in Tigrai without the consent of the people of Tigrai ?
    Why are Eritreans still running away from their country?
    Eritrean soldiers were shooting at their own citizens crossing to Ethiopia. Is that because EEBC was not honored?
    Just for a minute let those questions cross your mind and reflect on them.
    #1 Eritrean enemy is DIA. #2. are his henchmen #. 3 Zombies

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Alex,

    My personal opinion is, what ever crimes GA has committed as head of Intelligence, I think the PM who ever was at the time should be held responsible. It’s really, hard to believe that he operated without the knowledge of the PM, who I may add may have authorized the budget for his office.

    It’s standard practice, let alone in third world countries even in most democracies bad things does happen in the name of national security and the ruling government looks the other way.

    The best the government can do is dismiss him and apologize on the actions of the government, which Abiy has done both.

    If his alleged crime is since he left office and is currently involved in some criminal activities then I understand, but back tracking does not end how far one needs to go and will not make a peaceful tradition (albiat painful ) for the victims, which the government can compensate and provide some restitution.

    Berhe

    • Selam Berhe,

      If you are talking about pmHMD, here is a person chosen for his docility, religiousness, the fact that he is coming from a regional state that is weak and divided into 50 or so ethnic groups and tribes, groomed and programmed as if he were a robot. The aim was to help execute tplf’s plans of controlling the country through proxy, and at the same time to hoodwink ethiopians that tplf is not ruling the land.

      He was made inept, he was surrounded by tplf intelligence, and at one time it was said that his office was controlled by tplf intelligence operatives, he was like a bird in a cage, who could do nothing. There were rumors that they did not share intelligence information with him, and most of the time he was in a complete darkness.

      We should remember what he said when he resigned, (i am paraphrasing), that it is impossible for him to rule the country, bring reform and democracy, under the situation he was governing the land, and he is leaving the post so that somebody else could bring the changes the country needed, thus pointing finger to tplf. This of course had the domino effect that resulted in the reforms we have witnessed and the problems ethiopia lives.

      If pmHMD had continued his term to the end and the bomb had exploded in his hands, one could say he is responsible. He resigned to absolve himself in away of the crime that was taking place. It is possible to say that he has moral responsibility for accepting the post and not being aware of tplf’s plan. Certainly, it is impossible to say that he is directly responsible for the human rights abuse that took place all over the country, the corruption and looting, other than the moral responsibility he bears as the head of state.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Horizon,

        I think you really are underestimating his capacity as a human that he doesn’t know right from wrong, not to mention his incredible achievements both in his education as well as his personal experience as engineer, as a diplomat and a politician.

        Weather he comes from small ethnic group or large is immaterial when one is talking about person’s character. Every human being is equal and everyone can decided what’s right and what’s wrong.

        The fact that he resigned and he wanted reform to take place, I think says a lot about him and his brilliance rather than a robot that can be used as a tool. If the Ethiopian people manages to overcome this challenges, his place in history will be unmatched for he has opened the door for democracy to take root. He will be remembered as Gorbachev of the former Soviet Union.

        Going back to my points, as long as he was the head of the government, no matter what information have been provided to him or not, he is responsible. If it was otherwise, then he should have resigned long time ago and not after 4 years in power. I agree with you, he may have not been aware about all the crimes that was going on, but he was going up in front of people run for election and declared that his party has won 100% seats.

        So what I am saying is, until where GA was in charge, his government (EPRDF) is responsible for what ever he did, in the name of national security or his personal ambition.

        Let’s see the Snowden case as an example. It started under Bush and it continued under Obama and NSA were responsible for all the stuff that happened.

        So who is responsible for that, the Bush and Obama government or the NSA head at the time.

        Off course I am aware that the two cases are not the same..but have you heard any one pressing charges against the head of the CIA, NSA or FBI for what ever they did in the best interest of their country or organization. They will be dismissed and that’s it. No body goes personal and chase these people, unless what they did is for their personal gain or benefit.

        Berhe

        • Selam Berhe Y.

          I am in no way speaking about his capacity as a human being. That is out of the question. Everyone is good at something. I do not doubt his education and his services in other public fields. What i was trying to say was that politics was not the right place for him, especially as a civilian and a religious person among a pack of wolves, a group that came through guerrilla warfare, killings, intrigues, etc, and with the aim to remain in power.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I think you are making a lot of assumption when you speak with absolute certainty.

            The bottom line is no body knows what he knew and what he would have ought to know, when he was at the position he was. What ever his religion or being a civilian or not has little relevance when he embarked to take on the position and accepted the role. Only way you can do that is by making a lengthy inquiry, with a lot of efforts.

            The point I am trying to make is, I can’t see the former PM or others would be absolved from accountability while other suppose to subordinates are charged.

            Berhe

      • Blink

        Dear Horizon
        Don’t forget he also said he is not getting the right information from most people in the security and the state controlled companies , he said this to ETV and other Ethiopian media publicly. He was cornered and I think he is not confrontational in person.

    • Paulos

      Selam Berhe,

      You can see how the Weyanes are perceived as if they were alien entities from another planet when “Hailemariam was constantly surrounded by the Weyanes.” It is just astounding.

      The fact is however, when the bad people in Somalia were trying to destabilize the region particularly Kenya, Ethiopia [Oromia, Amhara and all the Kilils] on the other hand was off limits and safe under the watch of Getachew Assefa—for 27 long years.

      Remember, the guy including his brother Daniel had seen their father’s body being thrown and dragged in the streets of Mekelle by Dergue juntas before they both joined TPLF in their formative years and they both had given every thing they had for Ethiopia including keeping it safe from enemies from with in and from without. And what they got in return? Go figure!

      • Peace!

        Hi Paulosay,

        He was indeed a puppet; however, it is very normal for any ruling party to come up with such mechanism to stay in power. The pint is rather politics is not about honesty or generosity rather it is about knowing your long term strategic interest. With that in mind, it is safe to say waging war against Eritrea and deporting Eritreans was the fatal mistake TPLF ever committed.

        Peace!

        • Paulos

          Selam Abi Seb,

          Maybe the cynic sees politics as a mechanism to ride on the mantle of power when in fact politics is the art of possibilities.

          The great country you and I live in was founded on political ideas by people whose vocation and calling in life was politics. With that in mind, they changed a once was barren continent into the land of milk and honey.

          The Weyanes certainly are with in the same pedestal whose place in history is stellar when they transformed a nation which was once written off as a classic case of famine, draught and backwardness into an economic machine in tandem with diplomatic finesse including a strong army. As for the Weyanes declared war on Eritrea, if my memory serves me right, the international body mandated with legal arbitration ruled that it was indeed Isaias the psychopath who started the war at the expense of the Eritrean people. But of course, if you have an alternative facts which seems to be fad these days, I will respect that for you are entitled to your opinions not the real facts.

          • Peace!

            Hi Paulosay,

            I didn’t say TPLF started the war. The point I was trying to make waging war against Eritrea and deporting Eritreans didn’t serve the long interest of TPLF. It was a strategic mistake despite the war was ignited by DIA. Now, senior TPLF leaders are not accusing DIA for igniting the war rather they begging him for mercy.

            Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            So you say Abay Tsehaye was begging for mercy? I hope you’re joking. Really!

            Let me tell you a true story. When I was in grade 7 back in Asmara in the 80s, I had a friend who got in into a fist fight with a guy whom I also knew as well. The first fight they had was during the off school season. Later on what happened was, they were assigned to the same school but different shifts as in one would attend school in the morning and the other in the afternoon.

            When one finishes school for the day, they would meet on the road when the other starts school and what happened practically the whole year was that, the minute they cross paths, they would drop their books and start a fist fight and students would gather up to see. It became routine for every one to watch the showdown every day of the year with no truce what so ever in the end. Later years, I heard that they met in Europe and made peace with each other.

            It strikes me that, you and I including others argue about practically the same thing with no convincing what so ever. And it reminds me the fun time we had when we were kids.

          • Peace!

            Hi Paulosay,

            Again, to me, waging war against Eritrea and deporting Eritreans was a strategic mistake. If you disagree with that that’s totally fine. Please let’s save our time for something constructive.

            Peace!

          • Paulos

            I agree Abi Seb!

          • Haile S.

            ጳውሎስ፡
            ወይ ጥብቅና? እዋይ ጥብቅና! ንሰይጣን መንግስተ-ሰማይ መምለስካዮ! 🙂 🙂 ።

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            I called them out when they got corrupted to their neck and gave them the credit they deserved for what they have done for the country.

          • Haile S.

            ጳውሎስ፡
            ዝኾነ ኾይኑ፡ ታሪኻዊ ቦታ ትግራይ ንኽርኢ እንድሕሪ መዲበ ምሳኻ እየ ዝኸይድ። እቲ ዝዓበየ፡ ዕላልካ ነይውዳእ፡ በቲ ሓደ ትከላኸለለይ ካይጉዳእ። ቺርስ

          • Nitricc

            Hi Haile: Are saying Paulos is from Tigray?

          • Haile S.

            Hi Nitricc,
            Not at all. He doesn’t need to be from Tigray with the articulate way he places his defence of what he thinks they did right. Such criteria doesn’t come to my mind. This had nothing to do with Paul, but just to let you know, I have friends born or raised in Eritrea born from parents from Tigray. For me they as Eritrean as anyone and I treat them as such while fighting their ‘blind’ defence of TPLF, certain aspects of TPLF, I should say. I have also relatives born from Eritrean tegadeltis who are exhausted and fed-up of our system who are ardent defenders of TPLF.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Haile; the way you answer this question of mine, you are indeed qualified to be seasoned politician. You answer my question with a typical seasoned politician will answer it. Now, I urge you to run for next election for political office. You are good at it . lol

          • Haile S.

            Thank you for the confidence, Nitricc. You will be my running mate 🙂 🙂 🙂 .

          • Paulos

            ብዓጀባ’እምበር ንዓኻ ዘይኮነ ንመን ክኸውን ሃየላት ሓወይ።

          • Peace!

            Hi Haile S,

            ምጥባቕ ጥራይ መስፈ ክንህቦሞ እዘን ዓይንና ከንቁረን እሳ እያ ተሪፋቶ ዘላ

            Peace!

  • Paulos

    Selam Hailat,

    Read your great poem and reminded me of something I have been itching to ask the Forum.

    Were the Italians granted immunity from local laws during their stay in Eritrea? I am just curious.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Paulos,
      Yes they were treated differently. They have a separate court. I will refresh my memory, maybe check some books, but if two natives have a case they go to the native courts but if one of the parties is Italian, it must be tried in an Italian court. Only the Italian carabineri can attest an Italian.

      • Paulos

        Thank you Sir. I appreciate.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi George,

    It appears we are from two different worlds. As far as the government resembles your colour, you don’t care whether corrupted on not. The most important term for you to have solidarity with a government is the colour.

    Regarding me, colour is not important at all. The most important conditions to have solidarity with a government is honesty, loyalty to her citizens, presents good service to all without discrimination, respects human rights, allows freedom of speech, freedom of association, abides by the law, have transparency in all her deals, and above all of this a government composed of strong democratic institutions, like that of the civilized world.

    You don’t mind to have solidarity with the despot though he is a notorious criminal with a certificate from the international community. I am afraid when he passes away to the second world you will camp beside his grave or request to be buried with him.

    We have two groups of supporters to Isaias. The first group love themselves a little bit; therefore, they will camp beside his grave. The second group love Isaias very much and will request to be buried with him. Now, allow me to ask you this question: Are you from the first or second group.

    Al-Arabi

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam awatistas,

    “እንካ ዘይብል ሃባ መን አልመዶ” By Redi Kifle (Bashay) is broadcasted by radio assenna. I encourage to all Eritreans to listen to it. In his message, he touches about the need of formidable opposition, the need of about compromise, the role of women in a struggle, and others, both in poetry and prose.

  • Paulos

    Hope,

    I didn’t pass any judgement. If you read it carefully, I said, I hope it is not going to be boring and stale.

  • Acria

    Selam Hope,

    Well said on the things that Eritrea need to do for the next democratic transformation; except that, I am confused on the ” Law of the Land”. Do you mean the constitution of the 1997 after its implementation?

    All the things that our DIA doing these days are foreign affairs in nature. Those affairs are great news, by the way. I do believe though that it is better for the Eritrean wound to heal from inside out rather than from outside in. We need to give our internal affairs more attention; at least, the progress should proceed concurrently together.

    You see we are reduced to deducting to what should and shouldn’t be done to our country. One of the problems we have with the PFDJ leadership is their closed and secretive nature. They never announce or share their plan with their own people. when will they change? We haven’t seen anything positive during their administration towards improving the country during the last 27 years. Will they change now internally? How long can the people of Eritrea tolerate them?

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi George,

    Actually, I am surprised by people who call Weyane a trash, and at the same time swarm around the trash like flies. My friend, Ethiopia is in danger. It is better to depart the past and look for the future. I feel sorry for some Ethiopians who have totally dressed Isaias’s Wucho (blanket/ gown). Weyane is dead and will never come back. I think it is a Mengstu-Syndrome, a fear from a dead person (Haile Sellase). I thought that is Mengstu ailment alone, but it seems I am mistaken .

    Al-Arabi

  • Selam All,

    It is for the very few, that includes me. Please be humble and do not try to show that you are right about everything, and all others are wrong. Learn to respect everyone’s opinion, even when you do not like their opinion. Those who think that they have a learned opinion, and dismiss other people’s opinion cannot be more wrong. Avoid as much as you can self-importance. Let others judge you and do not try to judge yourself colorfully. Most importantly, do not try to underestimate others, for an educated person is known for his humbleness. We do not come to the forum to show off, or to tell the forumers that we know and nobody else does. Try to be always a student, and do not act as a teacher, for one thing is true in life, as long as we live, we learn continuously, we remain always students.

  • Nitricc

    Hi uncle Hope; I can’t agree more with your takes. It is time for PIA to act. Give him the credits for standing for what he believed; no doubt he had won over all his nemesis. But this time around the game-over to TPLF thugs applies directly to PIA to go back to real business of the nation. Many reforms will take time but it is high time PIA started with something; like releasing the prisoners. He has to show something, if not, I am afraid nothing good will come out if he counties business as usual. It won’t work. I believe we will see some dramatic change.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Nitriccs,

      Leaving everything aside, I think the following is the best I read this week:

      “But this time around the game-over to TPLF thugs applies directly to PIA to go back to real business of the nation.”

      Please look for the best inside you and I am sure it will have an added value.

      Thank you

  • Blink

    Dear Readers
    How do people make critical thinking to describe a deceitful behavior planted in a very toxic life of one TPLF member ? In my past study time my professor used to advice me to push his guidance to the limit so that he can make total evaluation of my work , yet he used to tell me to not made my study become my whole life. As I was with my Iranian , Pakistani and South Korean friends I felt it was normal to spend over 8 hours in my ጋዕ ገልጠም , we were so serious that we didn’t have much to time to look the city we were living . I lived in the city for 2 years yet know very little about the city .
    So if someone spent his whole time praising weyane day in day out , how can he think people will believe him to analyze Berket the Dimon from all sides ? Let’s take care of his past comments about TPLF in this forum :

    1 He has been telling us Weyane are democratic
    2. He has been telling us “ Meles the visionary
    3. He has never ever criticized TPLF for the crime they committed in Ethiopia .

    his views about TPLF is all roses over roses and yet he has the decency to stay humble asking people to critically analyze Berket the Volder Mort ( Harry Potter bad man )

    Pls pack your noise

  • Selam

    Selamat Abi,

    ኢሱ ጭሱ እኔ ምፈራው ጭሱ አፍኖ እንዳይገላቹ ነው። Gedab News is now a gossip column አቤ ሹክሹክታ የአማራ ዜና ሆነ በለኛ.

    ለማሾክሾክ እንዲ መቸን ቡና ጠጡ ብለናል

  • Selam

    Selamat Hope,

    Are you happy with what DIA is doing to Eritrean people? What are you talking? Which peace? A man who can not make a peace with his people and family in so called peace time, is not working for real peace in the region.
    I think nobody is anxious and disappointed by the peaceful and constructive development but off course suspicious by the evil character of DIA.

    Have a nice day

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    I believe, all of us here in this Forum have done basic schooling where the primary training is critical thinking. I appeal to all of you to save this great site from junk and garbage comments, instead please talk ideas and principles.

    For instance, instead of rushing into name calling and vilifying, can we see what Sibhat Negga had said with in historical context and the regions’ rather intense competition between foreign powers. More over, can we see what Bereket Simon had said with in the same light in comparison with the “Identity Politics” and “Populism” which is engulfing particularly Europe and if there is any parallel between the cause and effect. For once, please let’s talk something of a substance so that other people can take us serious.

    P.S. Before you write a comment, imagine yourself giving a presentation or presenting a paper to an audience. And imagine, how the audience might react, if you talk garbage from beginning to the end of your presentation. You don’t want to do that, do you? I certainly think not.

    • Saleh Johar

      Thank You Paulos,

      The disrupters do not come here to engage in a civil discourse. They have seasons in which they get rowdy, noisy and have nothing in mind but to spew garbage–it’s painful to see them lose basic human decency and resort to insults and vilification. But this website has always survived their aggressions–insults, vilification, and outright attacks–meant to force it to change course. It will survive and the chameleons will keep changing depending on which horse they are betting on.

      Thank you for the reminder, I hope others will also help in advising the disrupters to behave and change attitude.

    • David Samson

      Selam Paulino,

      I have just come out of a meeting. My presentation was about ‘Zero Sum Game Theory’. A question from an audience: how do you apply this game within Eritrea-Ethiopia context? One joys at the expense of the other one and vice versa; they are like mutually exclusive projects. He then whispered rubbish and I replied with ‘GIGO’— Garbage in Garbage Out.

      • Paulos

        Davide,

        How do you say “zero sum game” in Tigrinya? ዜሮ ድምር ጸወታ or ዜሮ ውጽኢት ጸወታ?

        • David Samson

          Selam Paulino,

          That is tough question and would rather direct at either Haile, or Emma. Here is my poor attempt: more likely to be ዜሮ ድምር ጸወታ. It sounds like cancelling each other, while ዜሮ ውጽኢት ጸወታ could be interpretd as a draw—neither side lost.

          • Paulos

            Davide,

            Yea we should wait either for Hailat, Emma or ፍትውቲ ሓፍተይ.

            Zero sum game is obviously when opposites are added for it carries negative connotation particularly in political dynamics where synergy is preferred instead.

          • Haile S.

            Selam David, Paul and all,

            Until Emma comes up with something else, here is what I am thinking:
            ውጺኢት-ኣልቦ ጸወታ
            To make it clear, we may add the protagonists, ሓድሓድ (not ሓድሕድ) tigrigna ‘pure’ or ሓባ, derived from arabic.
            ውጺኢት-ኣልቦ ጸወታ ሓድሓድ
            ውጺኢት-ኣልቦ ጸወታ ሓባ።

            እዛ ሓውትና ኣብርሀት ኣበይ ከምዝኸደት ድሃያ ጠፊኡኒ ኣሎ። ወይ በዓል ቤታ ወይ ካልእ ዕድለኛ ዘሪፉዋ ድ’ኣ እምበር ካብዚ ምቁር ዕላልናን ኣይምጠፍአትን 🙂 🙂 ።

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            I knew I could count on you where I am afraid yours will eclipse Emma and ፍትውቲ ሓፍተይ take unless they bring a new insight to it as they often do.

            As for ናይ ፍትውቲ ሓፍተይ ምሕካል, I suspect the latter is the case but would’ve been the merrier if he had asked us for her hand so that we offer our blessings.

            ዕሰለ’ሆ ዕሰለ ዕሰለ……

          • Blink

            Dear Haile
            I am assuming you are from Tigrinya, I mean if I take your nick at a face value. As you know you guys have a cultural inhereted religious allowed rape . Have you ever considered trying to bring the word RAPE to be the same with ምዝራፍ ? Amusing social backword in abusing Small girls . I hear you guys still practice RAPING small girls while the whole village dance at the expense of painful experience to the satisfaction of a lousy man . What a shame is that ?

            Shame , shame , shame , shame . I am repeating the word shame while you guys groom the little girl .

          • Haile S.

            Blink,
            Are you okay? I am not going where you want to take me. We are here talking about tradition in a way to take lesson from it. Relax. Don’t make a sword out of some innocent amusing discussion intended to make a call of someone deeply missed. What do you mean by this “shame shame shame”? The shame is on you who twists the jokes and elevating them to something that I never ever thought of. If you have some lessons to take from what we are talking about and share, please bring them in a way that doesn’t shame someone you think deserves to be put under the guillotine. Please come to your senses. Am I missing something here?

          • Blink

            Dear Haile
            Are you missing something? Yes you are missing everything and the sad part of it is that you are trying very hard to stay humble while your bedsheets has a leakage of the crime seen . Now what are you trying to teach ? I mean enough with the beautifying of a horrible experience that you tend to make a joke out of it .

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Psulos, Dave & Hailat,

            Gentlemen, I was away from the forum today. I just read your exchanges. So here is another way or option of saying it in tigrigna for “zero sum game theory.”

            Zero sum game theory =
            ክለሳሓሳብ-ባዶኣዊ-ድምር ጸወታ

            Zero sum game=ባዶኣዊ-ድምር-ጸወታ

            “Zero” isn’t “ዜሮ” it is “ባዶ” in tigrigna.

            Theory is = ክለሳሓሳብ

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            Many thanks for the input. If as you said, theory is ክለሓሳብ, what is the word for ስነሓሳብ in English?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Pailos and Emma,
            I think, any term that is not roted in the culture sound out of place. The term Zero Sum Game was created in a different cultural setting and translating it word for word makes it sound out of place. Haven’t we as a people came across a situation where we had to express Zero Sum Game in our own words–not neccessarily equal to the English phrase? I think we do and it could sound rudimentary but here they are:
            1. Truf!
            2. Zrebhalu (or, TerebaaHay) zeybillu guday
            3. Kulu Blash
            4. ksara nksara geruna or, ksara nksara eyu wtsieetu
            5. Gdefena eski!

            I am not fond of the word for word translation because they will not work if they are not rooted in the culture and language. Importantly, we have to think in the Tigrinya and not in English because it’s not an English problem and thinking in English spoils it all. What do you think?

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            That is a brilliant point. It is getting late in my part of the world but will try to comment on it tmrw.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Jawhar,

            I totally agree with the kind of your translation. Cultural context is very important in translation or the word or phrase will be meaningless or not understandable by the society.
            For instance, if I want to translate literally,word for word “ማይ ግባእ” or “ሖጻ ብላዕ” from Tigre to English; it will look like this “Be cold water”, “Eat soil” which are without sense and meaningless to the Briton.

            Al-Arabi

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            What I had in mind was the same as Kbur Haw Ismail AA and Al Arabi. Context matters in translating phrases and idioms. Again, great point.

          • Hayat Adem

            Paulos and HSGJ,
            Hi guys,
            I have a perfect translation for zero sum game. eElal Ethio-Eri.
            But, I sent this challenge from Paulos to a friend whom I know was so good at such stuff. I received the following response from him and I shall present it as copy-paste.
            […This is tough, H. I have been playing around with the two languages for long but never came across this one. Since I hate failing you without trying hard, …
            -ኣነ ወይ ወይከ
            -ዕንደራ ቱብቆል አይቱብቆል ዳንዴር
            -ምእንተ ይበተኹ
            -ዕዮ ከንቱ ውእቱ
            -ተለአኣሚ canceling out each other (as opposed to ተመላላኢ (complementary)
            …]

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat & SGJ,

            First I agree with SG to use our cultural saying whenever we could get equivalents. However, sometimes when we don’t have them we will be obliged to invent them as new vocabulary or new phrases to enrich our vocabularies. Just think like the English dictionary, there are always new additional vocabularies every year. For example 16 brand words added to the dictionary in the year 2018.

            Hayat: The gentleman has good grasp of tigrigna expressions. Actually, I found one of his list more closer than all of us, and that is;

            Zero sum game = ዕዮ ከንቱ ውእቱ

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H; At one of PIA’s interview; I heard him translate zero sum game. If my memory serves correctly; he said ” Wecho Ente-gelbetkayo wecho.” I don’t what “wacho” is but whatever it is, it resembles to the mining of zero sum game. because what ever you turned around you get the same thing i.e. zero sum game.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Nitrickay,

            “ወጮ ተገልበጥካዮ ወጮ” is equivalent to “same old same old”.

            I don’t know how and for what the despot has said it, but if it was for “zero sum game,” it is not even close.

          • Nitricc

            Hey SG; you said ” I think, any term that is not roted in the culture sound out of place. The term Zero Sum Game was created in a different cultural setting and translating it word for word makes it sound out of place.”
            I don’t know Africa’s cultural do’s and don’ts but knowing the west, I feel the same things when African’s trying to copy westerners idea of democracy. it is, like you said “out of place”. I my opinion this is the reason why westerner’s democracy never worked and will never work in Africa. So, what we need in Africa is what is a culturally created norms and laws and of course we can borrow few other things from the west to strength the system.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            This is good stuff. Thank you for bringing it up. Question for you. Why do you think that Western democracy can’t work in Africa?

          • Nitricc

            Hey P; let me try to explain to you the way as I understood it with a way that will make sense to you in the world of science. I know you love A&P. Let’s take African countries as a human body. Let’s use Ethiopia just for an example, as human body and let’s take Ethiopian culture as immune system to the body. The very immune system has guided, protected and served with absolute harmony the body for its entire existence. Then few people who are educated beyond their intelligence decided to transplant a foreign organ to the body. It is only natural for the body immune system to detect that the antigens on the cells of the organ are different and foreign to the system. Accordingly reaction or transplant rejections take place.
            This is the very symptoms of the rejection of the immune system we are witnessing all over Africa. Whenever there is “democratic
            election” there is violence, there are killings, and there are destructions. What Africa needs is home grown system that doesn’t reject the very immune system of the African body that respects the culture, preserves the dignity of the people and a system that promotes harmony. Time permitting I will share what I have for Eritrea.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            Application of immune system to make a point is ingenious. And I should say, it is a compelling argument as well. Let me touch on it in passing the similarity and please allow me to throw a couple of mouthful words.

            As you know, in organ grafting, we have basically two kinds as in Allografting and Xenografting where the former is when the organ to be transplanted is from the same species as in from human to human and the latter is from different species as in say, from a pig to human. And you can see that, the former is more practical in most of the cases.

            Now the question is, is there something called, “Universal Value” where everyone of us endowed with–humans as one species? In this great country where you and I live in, the Declaration of Independence states that, “We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, they are endowed by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

            You see Nitrikay, these are not mere opinions but as the authors indicated, they are self-evident. That means, they are inherently in all of us including Africans. One can certainly make the point that, one of the authors Thomas Jefferson owned slaves but that is beyond the spirit and powerful gist of the document.

            We Africans have as you put it our own set of values, norms, cultures, and traditions. Now the question is, do the values and norms we cherish reinforce the “Universal Values” as in freedom, liberty, rule-of-law and basic rights or do they stymie it? If the case is the latter, we become victims of our own doing, precisely because the only way to progress is embracing the “Universal Values.” And they shouldn’t contradict with our values unless the argument against is done for political expediency as dictators in Africa more often cite.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dr Paulos,

            From ELFites political document:

            “ስነ-ሓሳብ” Is ideology
            “ክለሳ-ሓሳብ” is theory

          • Paulos

            Thank you Sir!

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ሃይለ ከማኡውን ካላኦት፣

            ኣነዃ ክምታ ሳልሕ ዝበላ እዩ ነገሩ ኢለ ምሓለፍኩ። ግን ፈተነውን ኣይጎድእን ብማለት እዛ ፈረንጂ ዝምስልዋ ጥቅሲ ቃል ንቃላ ትርጉም ንምልባሳ ሃሰስ ካብ ምባል ምስ ኣቦታት ዘውረስዎ ለባም ጥቅሲ ከም ዘንጊ ሕዝካ ትርጉማ ” ድሐረይ እትረፊ ሳዕሪ ዳንደርውን ኣይትብቶላ ” ዝዓይተቱ ህልኻዊ ምጉት እዩ ኢልካ ምሕላፍ ምሓሸ ምበልኩ። ኣነ ቀሚሻ ሓጺርዋ እብል፡ ንሳ ከኣ ተጎምቢሓ ትስዕስዕ ገርዋ እዚ ሻሃይ እልኩም እንተስሒቁምኒ ከኣ ዘስሕቕ ኣይሰኣን እንቛዕ ካዕካዕ በልኩም።

          • Haile S.

            Good morning all,
            እስማዒል፡ እዚ ሽሃይ ዝዛረቦን ዝምስሎን መሬት ጥብ ዝብል ኣይኮነን, it doesn’t het soiled። እንሃለ ሕጂ መሲልካ፡ ነዛ ተዛርበና ዘላ እትትርጉም ምስላ ኣዘኪርካኒ። “ክልተ ጎርሓት ሓሙኽሽቲ ስንቆም”።
            I agree with all of you, trying to translate directly is futile for reasons that you mentioned. But it was fun excercise during our childhood. As Hamid mentioned, for example with my funny friend, we use to say ኣንታ ቀስ ኢልካ ተዛረብ ኣደይ mountain ኮይና ኣላ, for ጎቦ ኮይና ኣላ።

    • Senay Zer

      Dear Paulos — It’s “ኣላፋቻ” in modern lingo/culture and “ናይ ባህ-ኣይበሎ ቕልስ” in traditional Tigrigna.

      • Paulos

        Selam Senay,

        I agree. It is probably as you put it ኣላፋቻ or ንህልኽኩም ሽሮ!

        In any case, I don’t come here to show off as some people insinuate as if I own what I bring here. The credo is to learn every day something new so that we all grow. It is as simple as that.

        • David Samson

          Selam Paul,

          I thought ኣላፋቻ is an Italian word and the closest English translation of it is ‘blimey.’

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Girmay.
    ”I think Awate.com honored the peace deal too. lol. ” for the first time you said something sensible. But lol is not enough. KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK is best to describe it.

  • Selam All,

    When i listened to what bereket simon and sebhat nega were saying at the tplf conference, i couldn’t help but conclude, how much overdue it is that tplf old guards should have left their seats to young tigreans, and that they are doing more harm than good by continuing to hold key posts in the party.

    Bereket simon concluded that pm Abiy is incompetent, because he can’t control the unrest and tplf constitution is not respected, and america is interfering in the internal affairs of ethiopia. Sibhat nega, although incoherence, finally succeeded to send the message that pm Abiy and ethiopia are irreconcilably antagonistic to each other that one of the two will disappear in the end. This seemed to have made many in the conference hall embarrassed and uncomfortable, and even getachew reda, who was sitting next to him, could not help but scratch his head.

    Tplf as it is, is beyond its expiry date and should be replaced asap, or the old guards should be sent home. Simply it is too selfish of the old guards to insist that they should continue at the helm of power. They should understand at last that they are a reliability than an asset for the people of tigray.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Horizon,

      Is this recent conference of TPLF? What’s the youtube title to search?

      Was Bereket Simon part of TPLF always? I thought he was from ANDM.

      Berhe

      • Selam Brhe Y.,

        I think it must be a recent video with the title “በረከት ስምዖን ለስብሃት ነጋ ጥያቄዎች የሰጠው ምላሽ”. Bereket simon being andm, i had thought about it, but when he resides in meqelle, talks like tplf, thinks like tplf, and agrees with everything tplf, what else could he be but tplf?

    • Blink

      Dear Horizon
      If watch Sibhat nega tried to make the American ( asian guy ) , what was he implying? I mean what kind of old evil man is he trying to say such to a guy who is representative of one country who helped him cheat billions. Second both men think Ethiopia is small pocket of their own . Bereket seems angry and felt the humiliation of justice seeking society .

      I don’t why Bereket got such chair in Tigray if he was the representative of Amhara people, the man is not only a thief but deceitful creatures with the weyane skin. I am happy I am a witness to their evil and their fall .

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Blink.
        Bereket is always Tplf. He is one of the many planted in so called ANDM. All EPRDF parties created after Tplf got blessed completely by the west in London. Tplf could control all his puppet parties from the very beginning but thanks to the west it survived til 2016. Since the day after Tplf to invade Eritrea after it got its order on the day of UN accept the 500 pages crucifixion of Eritrean government, Tplf has been beaten even by its toothless puppets. What I wish was Tplf met by the majority Ethiopians who suffer for 27 years by this ethnic based organized criminals.

        • Blink

          Dear Mitiku

          Yes you are right weyane did plant many goons and that is the reason they are hampering the will of the people. Let’s hope aby moves quickly and swiftly to shut the horrible weyane war on the Ethiopian people. Everything that is going on in Between Ethiopians is bankrolled by weyane . I hope abiy do something about this because if it continues to go on it can really hamper the reform process by some years . The Amhara region is moving very slow I guess because they should have removed all TPLF low lever spies and put new people in every police station as well as everyone who has something to with federal systems.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Blink,

            Unless GA is running his operation with some kind of encryption that no body is able to detect / break it seems far fetched that he has that much power left in him to what ever is happening in places much far and away.

            And Abiy being one of the guys who was responsible for setting up the intelligence office and having deep technical knowledge about the field would be the last person to guess he doesn’t know what’s going on.

            Berhe

      • Hayat Adem

        Ato Blink,
        Limit your comments to the stuff you know well. That way, you may stay relevant in the knowledge consumption market.
        1) Why would you advise Abiy to declare emergency? There was an emeregncy earlier in place countrywide, remember? Abiy was in rush to list it and he did. That means, he doesn’t need it. So, you need to make a compelling reasoning if you want have a chance to convince him. I for one would have supported the reimposition of the sate of emergency in the nation.
        2) Why in Tigray only? Emergencies are needed to impose peace and order. Tigray is the only place where there seems to be unshakable peace and order. There are other places where violence is raging and people are hurting. But none of that is in Tigray. If your purpose is not to equalize by destruction, why would you disturb peaceful and calm places while you have others catching fire?

        • Blink

          Dear Hayat
          I am sure you have commented in places you have no clue just like the manufactured Eritrean village burned by ELF , PFDJ bombing in the millennium….. and many other things . I am asking for state emergency in Tigray to calm down the Ethnic killings because I believe it can just be done by taking out the bankrolling machine in Tigray ( I mean like Getachew Asfaha) . Just for the sake Hayat , how do you reconcile with the 200 bodies found in Somalia region and the evidence given by Abdi illi testimony against the Tigrians top security guy .

          • Hayat Adem

            Blink,
            You are so funny.. so tell me: how do you reconcile them?

          • Blink

            Dear Hayat
            You did not practice what you preach,the Christians have a saying and it happens that I forget it , Ok , I asked you a question and you asked me the same question back , that funny part is not an answer , Come on hayat . Say something outside your box . I mean ,what can you possibly lose ?

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Blink,
            Since you insisted, let me try as much as i understood it. (And there is a real risk here, I might not). Let me state my departure facts first.
            Thing 1: 200 dead bodies found in Somalia
            Thing 2: Abdi Illey attributed Getachew killed them
            —-
            Thing 3: Abdi Illey was the top ruling and deciding guy in Somalia state.
            Thing 4: Abdi Illey is in prison for alleged and charged crimes and he is defending himself.
            Thing 5: Getachew Assefa was against Abdi’s plan of building up his liyu police, while Samora was supporting him to build up his forces.
            Thing 6: Getechew Assefa is not charged and he is free as we speak.

          • Blink

            Dear Hayat
            Nothing risky really. As far as I can see , all are valid for me because everything in this mess is debatable from both sides . The one only thing that I would ask is , why you keep them away from everyone. No one knows if Abdi illi was lying . So it is a fair argument that in a fair judicial process anyone can be considered free until proven guilty.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam ms hayat
          did sibhat said anything about his wings to dan? because i heard sibhat has a wings and can fly like a bird, is that true?

          • Hayat Adem

            Teodros A.,
            Are you versed with Tigrigna? I have something for you:
            https://www.facebook.com/ILT.tube/videos/385274322212984/

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ms hayat
            It didn’t say anything about flying, plus am not versed with tigrigna, help me up by translate it to arbic or whatever.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Horizon.
      27 years of killings, abuse, displacement, looting of Ethiopians were not enough for you to understand how Tplf was ruling?

    • Selam

      Selamat Horizon,

      It is African politics; today I have heard Nigerian presidential candidates in Al jazeera upfront, Hassan Mehdi told them that they are above 70 and that they born before Nigerian independent but most of Nigerian population is under 25, so why they are not bringing new generation. All of them agree principle but try to argue it is not the right time.
      The same to Weyane elites after they are defeated in the major political battle they want to stay in power to death. They are not working by the political norms but rather they work with ego. If they care about the continuity of their party they should bring new faces and support from background if they need, if not they should keep their mouth shut.
      What I am suspecting; may be they are afraiding that the mistake and crimes they made will be exposed by the new generation. Like we see what happens by the federal government.

      Have a nice day.

    • Hayat Adem

      Ato Horizon,
      Alerted by your comment and Paulos’ note, I tried to listen to what Bereket and Sibhat had to say recently on Ethiopia’s current issues. I couldn’t find the part Sibhat had said anything but I watched the former’s full presentation. I thought Bereket identified the current challenegs and the areas where strategic and urgent interventions are need to prevent the dangers. Bereket listed out 5 issues, amongst are radicalized nationalism, unaddressed problems of the young, external hands, leadership quality (strong and democratic government). And he explained them all objectively and listed out what needs to be done to get out of the danger. Which part of Berket’s points did u find unacceptable?
      PS: Your issue with TPLF beyond comprehension. They are now in Tigray and the people of Tigray don’t seem to mind them as you are. And, the only peaceful place in Ethiopia is that part. The only universities Ethiopian parents are comfortable of the safetly level sending their kids are the universities in Tigray. In Amara, people get killed and displaced in their villages, towns and university campuses everyday. The same in Oromia. These are places TPLF is not managing.
      The federal government is at its weakest level. Ethiopia now has to deal with 3million IDPs. This is a figure you only hear in places that are in a declared civil war. Last time I checked, it is Abiy running the federal show.
      Abiy must really focus on continuing the success story of EPRDF on security and development, and speed up democratization. He has a better chance of registering some progress in that front. I personally think: the issues at hand are too complex for him but he can do better by focusing on the most lacking and take time on the rest.

      • Selam Weizero Hayat Adem,

        Your obsession with pm Abiy which started by accusing him from day one is beyond explanation. Beyond doubt, tplf was indeed a very well organized party, ready to use any means available to it to remain in power. Nevertheless, because it was deposed by people power, it does not mean it resigned voluntarily.

        If you were forced to choose between tplf, the political party and tigray, the people, would you choose the first, or, do you say that the fate of tigray and its people is tied to the fate of a political party (easily replaceable, as we very well know), and you cannot differentiate between the two, and you stand fully for tigray is tplf and tplf is tigray? If almost all ethiopians say a big NO to tplf, do you still believe that as tplf, it still has a chance to return to the power center and rule again? Remember, tigray is part of ethiopia, and a tigrean has every right to rule from the center, could it be a tplf?

        What do you believe is the future for tigray going to be, remain part of the ethiopian state or independence or become a rogue regional state with one leg in the federation and the other outside the federation? If it opts for independence, do you think that it will be viable economically, politically and socially; or if inside and outside at the same, do you think that ethiopians will accept this phenomenon for long? Don’t you think that a more peaceful situation in ethiopia could give the finally solution one way or the other? True or false, it is said that already the price of breads has doubled, because of the shortage of subsidized wheat coming from the center, and if this situation continues, more economic and social problems are going to pop up one after the other.

        Peace under dictatorial regimes is not due to the strength of their democratic traditions. It is due to mass killings and intimidation, it is as far away as declaring a state of emergency, incarcerations and tortures, which the government of pm Abiy is resisting up to now. Already there are people who are demanding for the implementation of state of emergency and the use of the federal army. Fortunately, he is not giving in to this dictatorial means of bringing normalcy, and he is insisting on non-violent means of resolution of conflicts, without using brute force as tplf did, as long as he calls himself a democrat. He is using the armed forces and the security methodically without mowing down the innocent with the criminals, and peace will come to ethiopia one way or the other. Even the military is saying that military force alone without participation of the local population in the peace effort will only have short term effect.

        Do you say that the things that are happening today in ethiopia have nothing to do with the legacy tplf left behind, the way it ruled, its corrupted ideology of undermining ethiopia, making her weak so that she is pliable, or directly or indirectly, tplf’s participation in the unrest from far away with the help of its money and its different operatives scattered all over ethiopia.

        The ‘success story’ under tplf/eprdf you are talking about unfortunately is
        loaded with mass killings, incarcerations of tens of thousands of innocent ethiopians, deplorable tortures, looting ethiopia as never seen before, and a debt burden equivalent to more than 60% of gdp, that did not leave behind ethiopians who eat three times a day as tplf promised, but about 10% of ethiopians still living on food aid. Thanks, but no thanks, it will never be repeated again in ethiopia.

        You see, 1% of the world population is rich because the 99% are poor. That is exactly what happened in ethiopia. Tplf and china’s government started at a difference of about a decade, china in early 1980s and late 1970s and tplf early 1990s. More or less they had the same economic politics. When china increased its gdp from 150bn to more than 12 trillion $ now in 40 yrs period, there are more chinese billionaires than in the usa, china has become the number one producer of cars, electronics, and whatnot, a big surplus in cash that china is looking for places all over the world to invest, extreme poverty has decreased to less than 1%, on the contrary, what we perceive in ethiopia is not the same thing in its miniature form in relation to the population and landmass differences, but a purportedly success story, as you say, of economic development, but with a lot of corruption and looting, the coffers empty, an indebted country, and all the rest that has brought ethiopia to this dangerous situation.

        Finally, oddly, now tplf is prescribing democracy for ethiopia which it fought tooth and nail to abort it when it was in power. What is the use of lamenting about democracy three decades later, when tplf itself didn’t want to see or hear about democracy.

        • Hayat Adem

          Ato Horizon,
          I am not married, so feel free to write off the honorable title Weizero from my name.
          Lots of questions. Some of your questions would have been best answered if they hadn’t been asked in the frst place.

          Let me answer only some of your questions.
          1) I agree TPLF was fired from the federal power by the people’s power. If I have to qualify this statement, I would say EPRDF instead of TPLF. Because it seems, more damage is done to EPRDf than to TPLF. Regardless, I am agreeing with your main point here. When that happened, TPLF had four options: make a responsibile retreat and go back to drawing board, fight it bloody and hardy to remain in control, try hard to sell out Ethiopia to strategic external enemies, or do all of the above. TPLF just swallowed its anger and ego, and did the best option for the country. It played responsibly and helped the transition instead of sabotaging it even when there were many things coming its way. Not many political parties do that in Africa. They should get a credit for that wisdom. People like you should start appreciating that mature move and stop bad-mouthing TPLf. This is not because I felt they deserve to be defended. It is simply because Ethiopia and Ethiopians would be better off going that path, The cycle of denial and hypocracy have becoem 2nd nature of the Ethiopian elite. And they are not going to help Ethiopia much. They never did in the past.

          2) Your 2nd para, “If you were forced to choose between tplf, the political party and tigray, the people, …” is simply indicative of what state of mind you are in. I would never equate TPLF to a small village community let alone to the Tigray people at large. It might sound to you and others here that I am a strong supporter of TPLF. The truth is: There is so much lies and mischaracterization of the TPLF I see by many Ethiopians and Eritreans. I always like challening those lies. My theory is, and i think, I can back it up with facts and explanations, TPLF is at its core an Ethiopia nationalist, not a Tigray nationalist. TPLF’s contributitons can be weighed under the PDD packages: Peace, Development and Democracy. In all the three, Tigray was at disadvantage compared to the rest of Ethiopia. TPLF had asked from the Tigray people way more than it offered anything to them. They paid everything for it. TPLF didn’t even do for the Tigray people as much as it did for the rest of Ethiopia. So, if anyone would come out and curse TPLF for failing to deliver on Ethiopia level but more so for Tigray, then I will be at the front to criticize it death. TPLF has helped the country achieve more compared to other political leaderships in histry or to the current ones:
          3) On you 3rd para, you flagged the issue of Tigray remaining part or separating from Ethiopia. This is the stupidest contemplation of all, I hear from people here elsewhere if I may say so. First, why would Tigray go? If Tigray is in a situation where any political setting of the day is not to its comfort, then the people of Tigray will mobilize themselves and others in Ethiopia and chnage the situation and make it acceptable. That is what they have been doing in history. In 1935, Tigreans were unhappy about the emperor’s repressive hands. The peasants revolted under the 1st Weyane movement. Their slogans were: we seek self-rule; we assert our flag remains that of Ethiopia. When the TPLF college kids tried to advance the idea of republic in the first months of their feild, they couldn’t convince or impress a single peasant. They had to change their framework in as short as 6 months. Even though the kids were very ambitious, assertive nad revolutionary and stubborn, they couldn’t make an inch of progress and they saw it clearly.

          4) Some Ethiopian elites are so belly-minded. It nearly makes me puk when they talk interms of economic and market viability if one region or people decide to separate. They think the reason why Tigray is not bluffing to go is because they will not have enough resources to sustain or feel secure. That is a thought line that may not warrant and counter argument. But, of course, if it is about resources and making it economically, There are many successful countries in the world who maybe considered less endowed than Tigray. The argument is not because of that, it is rather despite that. The cruel irony, it is not the Tigreans that are being obsessed with this point of separation, but the Ethiopian mehal ager elites. Well, Tigreans will always stand guard of the Ethiopianism and Ethiopian legacy. Tigreans are not a minority. A minority’s main defining component, marginalization from meaningful political participation and decision making. That is never the case with Tigreans. Many people forget that the reason for thr writting article 39 was to assure the many “peripherial” regions. Defnitely, not Tigray, which has proved to have options of correcting the situation by other means.

          5) I know there were many defieiciencies and excesses of the EPRDF regime that got you in the current situation. The point is what is the current leadership doing to make things better? If there were a performance deficit, is the leadership doing to address that? If there was a democracy deficit, is Abiy doing to get it better? If the youth were so insecure about their future and opportunities, is Abiy doing to make it better? During Eprdf, both the party and the governmnt were so strong and their excesses were so felt and suffocating. Now, EPRDF is no more. The federal government is at its weakest point. the regions have become stronger at the expense of the ruling party and the central government. Macro and collective affairs are being sidelined. I sincerly beleive Abiy is not the guy to lead the country out of the crisis. I think, Ethiopia should fire Abiy now and recall him after 2o years back to power. By then, he mature up and Ethiopia’s situation would also consolidate for the better. Will you be around after 20 years to support him? I might join you then.

          • Paulos

            Well argued Weizerit Hayat,

            Hope the upcoming rebuttal is as engaging and exciting as yours instead of boring and stale. Again, well done!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dr Paulos,

            Don’t expect from the opposite side to have an engaging rebuttals. Just watch the avalanches of name calling “wayane” from the suspected individuals, who are here to mess up the on going educational exchanges that are going in this forum.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Hayat,

            Although I may be walking through a wrong and dark alley and expose myself to clubs of some PFDJ and Ethiopian ማጅራት መቺ guys who stay in wait in this forum and be called a Woyane lackey, this is brief and brilliant exposition the current state of affairs of the EPRDF-TPLF. It’s is not without reason that some of us who cherish varieties of views feel the void when you absent yourself from this space.

            Incidentally, the former Emperor was on the run himself in 1935. I think you are referring to 1942 when the Emperor solicited the British squadrons posted in Aden, Yemen and bombarded people in market places in Mekele.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            These are destructors to a “lively educational debate”, and they don’t have a clue that the Wayne are “a force of idea” also whether we support or not to their ideas. They could not oppose idea with idea. They are scared with “ideas of opposites” which are the bases of knowledge and enlightenment. Unfortunately, they are from the school of conformity.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Ismael,
            Indeed, I was referring to the 1942. Thanks a lot

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hayat; really? you said..

            “ TPLF had four options: make a responsibile retreat and go back to drawing board, fight it bloody and hardy to remain in control, try hard to sell out Ethiopia to strategic external enemies, or do all of the above. TPLF just swallowed its anger and ego, and did the best option for the country. It played responsibly and helped the transition instead of sabotaging it even when there were many mthings coming its way”

            You are wrong and deceitful as the same time. TPLF was hacked and TPLF never knew about the hacking while the hacking was in a completion. Once the TPLF thus awake to the hacking they resort to sabotaging the change by igniting conflict every corner of Ethiopia among different ethnic groups. If that is not enough TPLF planed, organized, paid and executed the attempt assassination
            of PMAA. If this is not sabotaging I don’t know what the freaking sabotage is? By the way your government of TPLF is the first time in the history of governance to lose power while controlling the Banks and the Tanks!!! Think about that the power of hacking.

            “ TPLF is at its core an Ethiopia nationalist, not a Tigray nationalist.”

            Again your duplicity is up in open. TPLF stand for the people of Tigray not Ethiopia and thanks for EPLF; TPLF had no plans to join Ethiopia, rather it was forced by EPLF and that is how TPLF ended in Ethiopia. The truth!!!

            “This is the
            stupidest contemplation of all, I hear from people here elsewhere if I may say so. First, why would Tigray go?”

            Not that, Tigray doesn’t want to go! but where can Tigray go? So please save your empty rhetoric. At this point if Tigray gets the chance to relocate to the moon, they will go, they are so desperate about the situation.

            situation.

            “Tigreans will always stand guard of the Ethiopianism and Ethiopian legacy. Tigreans are not a minority.”

            I don’t know but pick one! Either you are incredibly naïve or unbelievably stupid to make the above statement. Your TPLF motto is simple and open to everyone. As long as we; TPLFiest, Tigrayans lead, embezzle, oppress and administer Ethiopia then there will be one Ethiopia, if not Ethiopia will be another Rowena. This is what exactly that was said by your illiterate leaders. Please!

            “ I sincerly beleive Abiy is not the guy to lead the country out of the crisis. I think, Ethiopia should fire Abiy now and recall him after 2o years back to power. By then, he mature up and Ethiopia’s situation would also consolidate for the better. Will you be around after 20 years to support him? I might join you then.”

            What amazes me is, I don’t think the magnitude of damage your leadership had inflicted upon the people of Ethiopia. If you have any humanity left on you, please listen to the victims of your leaders who are telling it every day this time around. It is the most harrowing stories I have ever heard. What kind of government
            will tie a bottle of water on some once testicles as punishment? If you dreaming that the TPLF thugs will be returning to power, then you have no idea the seriousness of the matter. TPLF is gone for ever and ever, never to be back regardless your lies and deceptions. the only way out for the people and Tplf of Tigray is apologies for the people of Ethiopia and ask for forgiveness for the people of Eritrea. That is it.

          • Peace!

            Hi Hayat,

            I have to be honest, two thumbs up for the ዱቋ (ጽርይቲ) comment. You know the only disagreement I have with you is your attitude toward Eritreanism and your prescriptions to its challenges- bombing (surgical attack) and install a TPLF puppet. Well, although we Eritreans despise the seating dictator, sustainable solution will only come from within.

            Peace!

          • Selam Hayat Adem,

            You entertain the possibility of “sell out ethiopia to strategic external enemies”. Do you think that tplf and tigray will come out of such a dangerous adventure unscathed? You are not alone in this. Somebody else was saying a similar thing. There is no winner in such scenario; it is a zero sum game. It is a sign of weakness, frustration and hopelessness.

            If you speak of the people of tigray as Ethiopian nationalists, i can easily accept that, but not when you talk of tplf. Yes, the people of tigray will always stand guard of Ethiopianism and Ethiopian legacy, but i will not say the same thing for tplf, never. There are many reason why most ethiopians doubt tplf as much as its ethiopianism is concerned, for things it has said and done.

            When one speaks of tigray remaining part or separating from Ethiopia, it is not about the people of tigray, but about tplf that remained and remains a liberation front. If it has nothing to liberate, then it is odd that it did not change its name as eplf did, and many others have done.

            You call economic well-being bellymindedness. That is a big mistake. The economy is an important factor that affects if a country will be democratic or not, if there will be peaceful coexistence and tolerance among social groups and even within the same people. At the end of the day if people cannot care for themselves and their families, if the welfare of society is not cared for and they see no hope, in a country where there are corrupt rich people and poor people, do not expect willful harmony in society, as we see in ethiopia, or they will run away from the injustice, any sort of injustice, economic or political. If you ignore the economy, you will be ignoring the most fundamental thing.

            In africa, let alone resource-poor countries, but even resource-rich countries like nigeria have not succeeded to prosper and become peaceful, and i couldn’t believe when i learnt that nigeria needs food aid for a portion of its population as oil-poor ethiopia, when its gdp is around 500bn$. If resource-poor japan has succeeded, it does not mean that it holds true for everyone else, especially for africa.

            Is it really so easy to secde using article 39 of the ethiopian constitution? Although it looks like it, some say that “legally speaking unilateral secession doesn’t seem the option provided in the constitution despite the fact that many people think so” due to other articles that conflict with article 39. Not an issue for the time being.

            Biased as you are against pm Abiy, right from the beginning, and while you refuse to accept everything he has achieved up to now, real as the majority of ethiopians are concerned, but non-existent as much as you are concerned, you are in a hurry to grade him within few months, and if possible you want his head on a platter.

            Finally, whom do you have in mind to replace PMAA with? Tplf? It is a wild dream. As much as what is going to happen after 20 yrs, i want to ask you the same question, will be around to oppose him?

          • Hayat Adem

            Ato Horizon,
            You are suffering from double-thinking, a sign of no good. Look at me: what is your problem? What is itching you too much? Why are consuming yourself cruelly? Why are acting a deaf?
            How did I entertain [“You entertain the possibility of “sell out ethiopia to strategic external enemies”. Do you think that tplf and tigray will come out of such a dangerous adventure unscathed? You are not alone in this.”] When did listing all mathematical possibilities and scenaries amount to practical became considerations.
            The people of Tigray cannot be described as Ethiopian nationalists. They are the very source it. Nobody in his right mind can measure them that way. You don’t help the sun with a battery light. I am talking about TPLF. Bring any organization or group of people and measure their level of nationalism against the TPLF. Most that talk loud fall dwarf, including you, Horizon. These people paid the very treasured one life for Ethiopia and releived Ethiopians from the Derg. They aspired and inspired big and did what others before them couldn’t do. They brought Ethiopia out of the ashes. They defeated the legacy of famine and and made headway in making poverty defeatable. The declared the renaissance of Ethiopia. As did their anscesstors on the rocks, they have inscribed their prints on the waters as in the GERD.
            The moment TPLF would entertain separation, it will die immediately.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ms hayat
            horizon is not just suffering from double thinking but he is suffering from a lot of illness spacially immorality, but again i don’t blame him since he is working as “lekesekes’ Facebook dog(that is his job title), he can say much on his own, he is just doing his job.
            The thing is, why u want to convince him? Since his line of thinking(his views) don’t represent nobody except a very few pro tplf individual, his views don’t even exist in eprdf minus tplf anymore ,so don’t waste ur time.
            but i just want to tell u this, i don’t know which nationalism u r talking about but tplf and ethiopia nationalism don’t go together, why?
            1, tplf reason to revolte was and still is against ethiopia nationalism, that is tplf core value,
            2, tplf hate towards certain people of ethiopia is also another prove that tplf is anti-ethiopia organization.
            3, tplf is supported by almost all tigraians except a few individuals.
            note, none tigrai ethiopians don’t view tigrai the same way they used to view tigrai 20-27 years ago , time has changed, so if u want make sense, when u comment keep inmind that the people mindset has changed.

          • Mez

            Dear Hayat A,

            Very profound comment; thank you.

            Of all your reasoning the :

            “… My theory is, and i think, I can back it up with facts and explanations, TPLF is at its core an Ethiopia nationalist, not a Tigray nationalist….”

            stole my attention.

            My question to you: Have you ever red the “TPLF Manifesto” from 1968 E.C.

            1) If yes, how would you reconcile your statement above with that?

            Thanks again

          • Nitricc

            Hey MEZ; I know you are good at dishing but never to serve it, so, I ask you when you say “Very profound comment; thank you. Of all your reasoning the :” I challenge you to give me one truth profoundly point and I will shut up. I can understand the rest of the spectators to go all fool out but how could you?

          • Mez

            Good Day Nitricc,

            Dear General, it was not meant for your eye yet.

            Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hi Mez; sure; I know it meant for the confused, corrupted, outdated and racists people. good luck with that bull crap. I challenge you to come with one profound point your confused old lady come up with.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Mez,
            I am aware of the Manifesto. There are many documents that show the TPLF was using the Tigray narrative as a mere strategy and not as an essential purpose around the struggle. If they had that inside their psyche, they would have worked towards after controlling assuming power. At their core, they are more of class ideologists. The only time TPLF stayed close and loyal to the Tigray political story was during the struggle (for the support) and now after it is pushed from the Federal government (same reason).

          • Mez

            Good day Hayat A,

            Thank you.

          • Kaddis

            Dear Hayat –

            More power to you!

            Your ‘minority’ explanation is a class of its own and would have killed the hate campaign of ‘ Tigray Minority regime’ initially coined by Sophia Tesfamariam – during the EriTV Amharic segment time, later outsourced to ESAT.
            Too bad tackling disinformation have been the weakest point of the ruling party; which is being translated now in people’s lives.

            Happy holidays –

      • Desbele

        Selam Hayat,
        And Tigrai graciously hosted 100k Eritrean refugees.

        I met a group in Virginia , USA, called “Liberty in North Korea” It rescues North Korean refugees hiding in China and resettles them in South Korea., so that they can avoid being forcibly repatriated back to North Korea. We shouldnt take for granted a safe haven for runaway slaves.

        • Peace!

          Hi Desbele,

          Sudan graciously hosted more than 500K Eritrean refugees, your point is?

          Peace!

          • Desbele

            Hi Peace,

            Grateful to the people of both countries.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hayat,

        When a leader was “part of the success” of the last 28 years, and when he he sat at the helm of power start to call it those years the darkest years for the Ethiopian people, then there is something flaws with the character of that person. A True leader should recognize the economic achievement, and admit the failure in not having “open political space” as part of the previous administration. Abiy has not the character and the quality of leadership for a country with such magnitude of social conflicts. He has not the ability to struck a political deal with the existing social forces, nor does he look serious to deal with when communities at each other’s throat. Ethiopia needs a decisive leader with courage who doesn’t blink to bring the balances between the “centripetal and centrifugal forces” to manage the current crises.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam aman h
          I was asking ms hayat to ask u, why all this obsession to ethiopia, why aman ? 3A is ethiopian leader, as far as i know u r not, so why this much obsession? What makes u think ur support or rejection matter to 3A ? i can tell u, it doesn’t matter.
          I think u r suffering from doublethink(hayat word for horizon) and identity crisis.

  • Nitricc

    Hi AT; I think I am missing something with this news piece. I can understand why PIA wants to avoid direct flight from Eritrea to Somalia by crossing the Red-Sea but why does he need to use Kenya while he could go through Ethiopia to get to Somalia? So, I don’t see using Kenya out of anything but just he wanted to visit Kenya. Your take doesn’t make sense!!!

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Nitricc,

      He was packaged to Kenya on a cargo plane. From Nairobi loaded on a passengers plane. You know there are no continuous flights from Addis Ababa to Somali specially on the day your master was travelling. Yes you are right he visited Kenyan Airport. It is reported by some sources that he was checked by veterinarian at the airport.

      Al-Arabi

      • Nitricc

        Hi Ya Arabi; what do you mean ” You know there are no continuous flights from Addis Ababa to Somali specially on the day your master was travelling.” he is taking his on plain. He can fly at anytime. You seem to make it he is taking commercial air plain when you say specially on the day your superior, PIA traveling. You know he is your nightmare. lol Do you see him on your sleep and jump out of bed. What a man he is…. He beat you all one by one, ask your masters weyane, they will tell you. One more question for you. why is PIA’s plain is unmarked? let me hear your wild speculations.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Nitricc,

          Nitricc, “One more question for you. why is PIA’s plain is unmarked? let me hear your wild speculations.”

          You know my good friend, my speculation says, “Because, it is a mafia plane”. I hope I have succeeded in answering your question. Though I am afraid, I expect an A+ grade from you side.

          Al-Arabi

          • Nitricc

            Hi Al Arabi; for once can you answer a question professionally. All your takes are street takes, no thoughts on them. Now I ask you what is the reason for PIA’s plain to be unmarked?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Nitricc,

            I think the dose you have taken is enough for this session. In any next opportunity I will be a little bit generous with you and give you a lesson in conduct, to learn it late better than none.

            Al-Arabi

        • Blink

          Dear Nitricc
          I have to ask this , Issias took Osman Saleh , Yemane and some other key members to Somalia , Kenya , I wonder who would have be in charge if the plane somehow got a big bird in midd air 2000 Meter above the ground and landed on the mountains . Who would have been the one to resume power . I mean there must be someone.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Blink; god forbid but if that happens for sure Sibhat Efrem will assume the responsibility.

          • Blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Yes , I was just taking long high speed train and I just got the idea of accident like the train jumping to the deep ocean and then the plane root come up from no where . Well if Sibhat was to take the helm I am sure he will release his friends . I am guessing.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Bilink; Sibhat Efrem is my fev person in PFDJ. And I am sure he will release all prisoners not only his friends. I mean at this point, it makes no sense to hold anyone in prison. That is why PIA will release all political prisoners in early next year. There is no reason to hold any one in prison, not any more. Eritrea is entering in a new stage a stage that calls different thinking and different leadership.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi Abi,

    Awate is a beam founded to shine forever. It is the voice of the masses that will never kneel down. Truth may become weak, but will never be destroyed. Many defenders of dictators disappeared with their master, but holders of freedom torch are created to pass all tests. You see victory of truth impossible, but we see it very near.

    Awates are vanguards in the Horn of Africa for peace, democracy, human rights, freedom of speech and respect of law.

    AWATE IS THE SCHOOL OF FREEDOM IN THE HORN OF AFRICA THAT WILL NEVER TURN OFF.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Hope, nothing bad with all the positive stuff you wrote about. But as they say, ተጽግበኒ ቅጫ ኣብ መቕሎኣ ከላ ይፈልጣ, we have lived and seen so much that it is clear for us there will be nothing good that comes from the evil creature called Isayas Afwerki. Plus I think it was a huge disrespect by the Kenyan president that he didn’t bother to recieve DIA at the airport, instead he sent his foreign minister. I can’t imagine how bad DIA was feeling, considering his mountain ego; as long as the Kenyan president was in town, it was a must that he welcomed DIA at the airport, but NO.

    • Hope

      Abreham :
      Why do u believe Uhuru did what he did then?

      Just for the sake of disrespecting PIA?
      It was Muzungu Uhuru,who should be DISRESPECTED for his bad or his country’s collaboration with the bloody enemy of Eritrea.

      What did Uhuru and his Kenya,a live British Colony ,contribute for the Horn other than being a culprit?

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Hope, I don’t know why President Uhuru did what he did to DIA, ኔረ ድየ. But I think it was a sign of disrespect; kind of letting DIA know that he is just a minion and a thug in the politics of our region, unlike what high thoughts he might have about himself.

        • Hope

          Selam Abreham:
          You have not answered my question:
          What exactly did the Monkey Uluru did or achieve to make the Horn Peaceful other than aggravating the situation ?

          PIA,irrespective of his messy roles and dictatorship ,has proven time again that the Horn can live in peace through his effort along with Dr Abiy ,
          I NEVER EVER HEARD you blaming the mother of all hegemony ,destabilization and corruption..aka TPLF!

          Kenya was the Puppet and Mercenary of that Junta and executing the agenda of the same TPLF Janfa or Chifra by asking how high when asked to jump,against Eritrea snd Somalia but I did not hear from you CONDEMING these Joint Operations of Hegemony and Destabilization of those two poor and Zerrai-Albo Nations and Peoples!.

          It was PIA that engineered the IGAD and its Noble Cause ,NOT the Puppet Kenya,and now it is the same PIA that has revived it after he got an opportunity to do so,thanks to the Visionary Leader of Africa,Dr Abiy Ahmed Ali.

          No matter what,time to give credit to that minion Dictator .

          • Acria

            Selam Hope,

            No credit yet to our DIA. The current rapprochement is the result of Dr. Abiy Ahmed. We will give him credit when it is due. Need to see major change within Eritrea first.

  • Peace!

    Hi Hope,

    It was good. The air ticket wasn’t bad $1050 round trip, lebleb kitfo still tasty, and lots of amazing hookah Lounges. The city is busy as usual.

    Peace!

    • Paulos

      Selam Abi Seb,

      Welcome back and hope you had a great time in ከተማ ሓዳስ ዕምባባ።

      Can you believe they still call the city Addis Abeba even after it has been around for over a century. I would say, “Natural Spring” is more apt for it is “Finfinne” in Oromiffa.

    • Hope

      Selam Peace:
      Congrats for the “ Mission Accomplished and the dream come true”!

      It makes a huge difference to see the cancer being cured slowly .

      What an Efoita,indeed!
      The round US-Addis trip thru the ETHIOPIAN,at times drops to $650 from Washington DC.

  • Brhan

    Hi Awate.
    Great news. Isays has declared that he will control even the news. That is why we do not have local or international independent media inside Eritrea. This flight route revealed by Awate indicates that the regime is cautious of its safety. The regime is meddling in the Yemeni civil war by providing the lands and seas of Eritrea to UAE and Saudi Arabia who are killing Yemeni children. As result the opposition in Yemen is firing its missles to Jazan and Dubai/Abu Dabi. Those who collaborate in killing children will be accountable one day

    • Hope

      Selam Birhan:
      Can U use a common sense though?

      Why should PIA use the allegedly unsafe suggested route ?

      Safety?

      Wouldn’t u care about your safety?

      Yemen crisis ?

      Wasn’t Eritrea in the worst crisis during the Evil Axis Containment period,where Yemen was part of the Evil Acis against Eritrea?

      Where were u or the Gedeb News HIDING when Eritrea had gone through the WORST CRISIS ever,where Yemen was also the part and parcel of the source of the Eritrean crisis along with the bloody enemies of Eritrea and Eritreans?

      Not that am fun of the Yemen crisis and the sufferings of the Innocent Yemenis but to tell u that Eritrea cannot be singled out when it is not directly nvolved like the 20 plus other Nations including the Western Super Powers,which have never gone through what Eritrea has gone through.

      Eritrea had to save itself from the “ life and death situation” that it was emerged in too.

      FYI,contrary to the Gedeb News Report,PIA indeed, meet his Kenyan Counter Part.

      The only fishy thing is as to why President Uhuru Kenyatta did not receive him at the Airport,unless it has to do with the technicality of the Protocol or the type of the invitation or visit .

      It was the same people and the fake Mefua ,who were spreading fake news and defamatory reports about Eritrea claiming that Eritrea was supporting the Houths and that Eritrea was hosting both the Iranian and Israeli Naval Bases.

      • Brhan

        Hi Hope
        I hope you know and understand the meaning of news : news is about current events. What you are talking about can be categorized under feature. The above is news and not feature. The study of journalism that I came from states that . You see Hope this forum is not only of exchanging comments but also sharing educational information such as this one about the definition of news that I am providing to you. I want to follow my profession . See me comment on feature article about the issues you raised and then pass your judgement

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Brhan,
          Thanks for explaining. As they say, Kulu endel Areb saboun 🙂

        • Hope

          Selam Birhan;
          Thank you for your education but I was not talking about the News but reacting to your analysis of the News,which you turned into a “ FEATURE”!

          Analyzing and speculating about PIA’s alleged or presumed intention of choosing one over another route and bringing the Yemeni Crisis into the equation made me to turn it into a FEATURE so as to analyze on your analysis of the News item you turned into a “ Feature”!

          Not only you but the Gedeb News turned the News item to a FEATURE.

          • Brhan

            Hi Hope,
            Revison to the lesson : News is about current events

          • Hope

            Brihan:
            Thank you again.
            But with all due resepct,sir,I do not need a brain-wahsing manual or a crash course about a Metaphysical Journalism and am NOT interested in Linguistics or English Literature as I have enougjh and basic English 101 to communicate with others and to practice or todo my business.
            I could have challenged you further but we will get NO where but a simple question:
            You or the Gedeb News NEVER EVER attempted to do its Journalistic obligation when it comes to real the Ethio-Eritrea related issue in general other than admiring the TPLF and flooding us with defamatory reports on Eritrea ;and when dealing with the destructive role of the TPLF on Eritrea and Eritreans,which were so huge issues and incidents that the World Journalism and Journalists could not even cover in its entirety.
            There is NO new breaking news about the Yemeni crisis .

        • Abi

          [Don’t accuse people of something you do not know and stop abusing members you disagree with. We will not allow that. Your abusive comment is deleted. This is your second warning in just two hours//moderator]

    • Girmay

      Hello Berhan, it will be difficult for controlling Eritreans anymore. Before Eritrea and Ethiopia “peace” agreements was implemented controlling Eritreans was easy. Give a lot of children guns and then intruct those children to kill other Eritreans who try to escape Eritrea.
      Now Isayas no longer controls Eritrean border and the Eritrean brain. Eritreans will be leabing and going back to Eritrea freely. King Isayas closed Asmara university fearing reason and logic. Now Eritreans who attend universities in different parts of the world will return. Will Isays prevent college graduates from returning to Eritrea? We will see.
      Another point we must consider is the boring meketit lectures. If you notice Pfdj cadres are always boring speakers? Why? I dont think because they lack articulate speakers, its rather because they are always speaking from the surface of their heart.
      During EPLF war for independent you could sit all day listening to their cadres speak now, few minutes of their lecture will put you to sleep. What does this mean to justice seekers and opposition members, they could be the articulate speakers of their societies political needs .
      Isayas can get the red carpet treatment from all the countries of the world, but the most important red carpet in the world for Isayas is the hearts of the Eritreans. And he lost that long time ago. For these reasons Isayas is running around the Horn of Africa to build some kind of legitimacy. It is too late.
      Eritrea should never be divided between opposition and supporters. Eritrea now needs visionaries that could chart her future. Certainly king Isayas and his boring propganda elites have lost the articulation power. The question is when will the revolution start? Its not will it start.
      How many ideas can Isayas arrest and kill? Articulation is the most lethal power that King Isayas and his cadres have already lost.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Girmay.
        One of the trash media of Tplf called Tigray Online is full of hired tplf cadres to show how media is done in woyane democracy. And since awate.com came out of its closet (fearless), even you Girmay said ”Another point we must consider is the boring meketit lectures.” No wonder when Eritreans left the room that tplf foot soldiers take over Awate.

        But just out of curiosity are you giving advice Pfdj to abandon the ”boring” Meketit by Tplf’s looting and corrupt system?

        You see it is not that difficult for any country at least to try the road to multi party system. But when you have a mercenary government like Tplf the oppositions will be infiltrated by enemies. The enemies do just like you, like tplf. Pretending to oppose the president but they go for destroying the core value of Eritrea to install a puppet government using corruption etc to control and loot Eritrea.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Mitiku Melesse,

          Ethiopia is moving towards Somalization or worst from that. The fires that rages in some parts of Ethiopia will overwhelm all. Ethiopia either will succumb to the worst dictatorships or will be fragmented. To stop all this dangers and fears, Ethiopians have to make a quick change of government. Dr. Meddamar will destroy Ethiopia if you don’t stop him immediately.

          Al-Arabi

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Al-Arabi.
            A government change is going to be determined by ballot box in the new Ethiopia. Ethiopians have paid 27 years sacrifice to overthrow the revolution hijacker corrupt organized criminals Tplf. Pretenders like you have only one option. Join tplf criminals.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Mitiku Melesse,

            You speak about wishes and I also wish Ethiopians to reach a fair ballot box, but events on the ground speak differently. I am afraid you will wake up one day on the ashes of a country once was named Ethiopia. Do you think the intimate friends of Dr. Meddamar like to see Ethiopia a democratic country? Don’t expect good from guys who lack everything benefits human beings. You expect from a greedy guys generosity, really it is very sad.

            “A LOAF THAT SATISFIES ME, I KNOW IT WHILE STILL ON ITS OVEN” A TIGRINIA ADAGE.

            Al-Arabi

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei moderator.
          You sound like the Tplf/Eprdf parliament house speaker. The tplf member could say what ever they wanted but when any one opposed tplf policy the microphone is closed by the house speaker. Those were in the old says. Now Awate moderator allow tplf ot say what ever they want regardless the guideline and when i answered them the exact word they used i got warning.

          You are hilarious.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, Moderator.
            Respect is is what i do. What you are doing is this is my house I can shut down the speaker like tplf house speaker . There is no insult from my side. You are swimming in the religion politics. You are not used to people challenged you since you ban them when they do or badmouth them. You know people or group like you do if they get the chance to any leading position, they throw people in prison. Luckily you chance to be near in any leading position in Eritrea is almost zero.

  • said

    Greeting,
    Throughout history, revolutions aspire to confrontation once lines of division have been clearly drawn. later other issues come into sharp focus. For example History of Eritrea is hell a construction of hell! Hellish I can not figures all around to cover nation history . The fact remain. Our people still are living in hell, Eritrean youth vortex of slave labor. with lower wages and worse conditions for those still holding on. This is the heart of the matter it is not to my desire to judge, or to degrade. Some time I find myself trapped replicating NUS language and tactics and his blind and Hippocrates regime supporters , even if it is on more worthy subjects of evil. The internet creates a platform of relative anonymity. We debate respectively and receptively to be informed and to learn form one another’s and for others simply its the culture of degrading and humiliating others—almost for bloodsport. Sometime it is obvious the goal is simply to ruin your foe and make them your victim. Once you conquer them you leave their corpse hanging on the public square. The internet acts as a public forum to embarrass and judge each other while never being honest about ourselves.

    But the country I remember from my very limited teenage years in the late 1960th was rich and advance, industrious ,tolerant ,peaceful. coexistence and vibrant by African standard ,we had our problems never the less . Ethiopian had systematically looted and destroyed Eritrea .Their occupation was full of atrocities and barbarisms.
    By same toking I am not here bashing Ethiopia day and night.
    I shouldn’t judge Ethiopia political situation today ,it is very complex and deep troubled country , my understanding is limited simply by my sociability by my friends, for they are all cosmopolitan ,opinion writers and some intellectuals, Ethiopia any past previous peace, tranquility and equilibrium is not an indication of stability , Perhaps because so much has been lost and there are more accountability to face .the page have not turned yet, there is always nostalgia, even for someone else’s past Ethiopia, is a strong undercurrent in a troubled nation the recent rise of ethnic tribalism, from some ethno-nationalism, the search for identity and community with one’s own. Loyalties to province , tribe, culture and country appear paramount, rising above intellectual and political alignments.

    On issue Eritrean leaving their country ,on the whole, humans have an enormous capacity for empathy as well—that is, imagining others’ pain and feelings as our own. the empathy involved in feeling another’s pain is quite ingrained in human cognition, to become more empathic toward others, especially the less fortunate embracing strangers in need and making Ethiopia a better place and protect for them.

    Universal right and belief calls us to stand with those fleeing political violence and dire poverty, and to call on PMAA government to uphold the human rights of Eritrean refuge. In the face of founded fear and violence, true of Ethiopian courageous action is necessary. Eritrean youth will not forget generosity of hospitality. Just as Sudan welcomed Eritrean refuge a place that has a sense of collective pride in a culture of hospitality. A country with strong moral code to look after strangers.
    It goes without saying there boarder political division indeed divided into all kind of social structures — some united by language, culture, faith ,geography There are natural us-them divisions, then, but a crucial question immediately emerges: Are these divisions, and the differences that result from them, somehow sacred and in need of protection at all costs, were there is hardly any price to pay, with minimum security should they be open, how do we protect what is truly valuable without damaging or destroying what is also valuable? Must this protection of Eritrean youth. PMAA should not support Eritrean NUS and his obeant PFDJ military juntas with horrific human rights abuses well known to you. Eritrean youth they are subjected for generations to a cycle of extreme violence.
    PMAA should acknowledge injustices carried out in a “distant” past. of historic injustices carried out by imperial Ethiopia. The Ethiopian savor PMAA be true to yourself and honest with Ethiopian ,the new face Abiy as Loving Saint and the Rational Abiy , hopefully he does whatever is morally best in a joyful spirit as you show you are to be , unwaveringly focused on morality. What we are to think of the Abiy Loving Saint as the kind of person who cheerfully sells all of his possessions in order to donate the proceeds to Ethiopia overcome its budget deficit. Ethiopia deeply indebted, forever in search of foreign aid to manage the country’s endemic state budget deficits. with insufficient meagre national resources that are not commensurate with the country’s rising national needs and vastly grown population, the country is incapable, rationally and realistically, cope with the existing and worsening challenges very much cutting into the very existence and sovereignty of Ethiopia as diverse society. considering the country’s growing population and scarce national resources – no alternative is in view or a workable rational plan, a formula that a savvy political analyst can perceive as a potential viable alternative political system for saving of Ethiopia in its current territorial integrated and as a sovereign entity.
    However, realities on the ground did not last long to cement first for the Amhara long dominance become solidly entrenched in the making of politics and the assured control over the political fate of the larger Ethiopia Sovereign entity. This, as Ethiopia kingdom and Derge military junta – ended in less than three decades of the creation of, and the newly arrived TPLF force in 1991 ,an indisputable political dominance by TPLF over the majority of the Ethiopia population, were increasingly challenged by politically more assertive of all sort of Ethiopian nationalist inspired forces contesting the fait accompli sole privilege of the Ethiopia TPLF minority to dictate the political agenda of Ethiopia.
    Ethiopia’s ambitions to evolve with time into a true representative democracy and respecting the faith of people and tradition without state interference ,a state immune to constraining archaic Tribal Politics and the rising forces prioritizing economic and security issues with neighbouring countries over other vying forces setting the state’s priorities.
    However, in the continuing political divisions and near total lack of trusts among the vying Ethiopia tribal lords, stifling the opportunities of the edification of a sustainable modern economy and a modern state, Ethiopia best bid to overcome the dysfunctionality of the state is for the Ethiopian to contemplate a new different alternative political System. They possibly need to contemplate transforming Ethiopia into a more pluralistic political system possibly taking new form of a Confederation of province or Cantons.
    The Abiy Rational Saint is equally devoted to moral causes?, but is much more motivated not by a constantly loving spirit that he shows , rather by a sense of duty of his country . Abiy with his relentless commitment to moral duty will hopefully protect Eritrea residence in Ethiopia. You have being projecting yourself to be as decent a person and as well as PM of Ethiopia. Time will tell and judge you if you have the heart of Mandela or just another politician a Machiavelli .

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ

    ንዕዳጋ ወሪድኩም ዶ
    ሓድሽ ደርፊ ሰሚዕኩም’ዶ

    ጥሙር ሓደ-ልቢ
    https://youtu.be/3oHSfaYogWM
    ሓደ ዝነበረ ልብና
    ጥሙር ኮይኑ ዝሕቆፍ ረኺብና
    ልብታት ዶ ክብሎ ኣልባብ፡ ረኺብና
    ይሓቁፍ ይዘልል ሰጊሩ ረሲዑ ንርእስና
    ወረግ እንቋዕ ኣይኮነ ሓደ-ሓናጉልና፡ ተማሒርና

    ልቢ ዝተፈጥረ ክምግብ መትንታቱ
    ካብኣቶም’ውን ክቕበል ክእክብ ሓሳባቱ
    እዚ ናህና ልቢ ግና መሪጹ ክጥርንፍ ጎረባብቱ
    ነውሪ እባ በሉለይ፡ መኣስ እዩ ፍሽኽ ዝብል ምስ ናቱ
    እሂን ምሂን ዝብል ዝገልጸሎም ሓሳባቱ
    ዝዛተ ምስ ነብሱ ምስ ኣካላቱ
    ረሲዑ ገዲፉ ኩራ ከናፍርቱ
    መን ይፈልጥ ንርኢ ንኸውን ተኣምራቱ

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Haile S.,

      Isaias appears as a deaf in a wedding ceremony.

      Al-Arabi

    • Acria

      Selam Haile S.,
      Great song. But, what is the deal with the military attire? If it means that the Somalian soldiers are going to change their profession to musicians, that is great. That invites peace! I am all for that.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Hope
    I am not sure if you are anxious but millions and millions of east Africa peoples couldnt believe in happiness with what is going on. You see virus made in lab is more deadly than the natural one. The war monger mercenary virus tplf is quarantined in Tigray and peace is flourishing around us. Those who are anxious are Tplf and their support group. That is not a surprise becasue ”ውሻ በበላበት ይጮሃል ነው ነገሩ”. Isu once said there is no free media. Think of Gedab, just think of Gedab.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Mitiku Melesse,

      “Isu once said there is no free media”. Are you kidding? Is Isu your source of information and reference? Then, you are lost.

      Al-Arabi

    • Selam

      Selamat M. M

      Let me ask you when Tplf and Eplf come to power they have had a good relation each other and with their neighbor, was that time a good and peaceful time for you and other Ethiopians like you?
      አማራ በሰው ቁስል እንጨት ስደድበት ይላል because they used to do it in daily life. So please pull your steak from our wound. We have enough Eritrean Stu…d. Those they see the truth and hear the truth but still believe the lie.

      Have a nice day.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Selam
        Are you afraid the virus tplf is forced to gather itself near your border?

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awatistas, various observations:
    *Gedab News writes, “The reason for Isaias’ travel through Ethiopian and Kenyan airspace is, reportedly, to avoid flying over the Red Sea and Bab Al Mendeb.” But a quick look at the map of the region shows that one doesn’t need to fly over the Red Sea or Bab el Mandeb strait flying from Asmara to Mogadishu.
    *The letter form the Kenyan ministry of foreign affairs doesn’t mention that DIA would fly to Nairobi first before flying to Mogadishu, instead, it says “The aircraft will overfly/land Kenya airspace and land at JKIA today 12th Desember, 2018 without the WIP.” Stress here without the WIP, I wonder what is WIP. Also it was reported and shown on the ERI-TV that DIA left for Somalia in the morning hours of 13th December 2018.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    As a member of the comment reading Association ( CRA ) of this forum , I am here to read only fair comments, so please do good to yourself by avoiding lies . Keep your comments away from lies. Well to be completely honest in my humble opinion , off course without offending the weyane goons , I would like to see them again and again do their best to stay humble in their lies .

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei all.
    Tplf will never expose Getachew. If they do, what we knew about the crimes Tplf made on the non Tigrians could be worse than what Hitler had done against Jews. So this propaganda made by Tplf media like Awate and the likes has nothing to do with humiliating Tigray. Even it is not about Getachew’s being Tigray. Tplfs are scared of how many top tplfs are involved in crimes including ethnic cleansing. Tplfs are so stupids they want to offer innocent Tigrians just to save the criminals. PM Abiy and his team have made it clear that there will be no torture or abusing of prisoners like Tplf time.

    • Brhan

      Hi Mitiku,

      You say PM Abiy and his team….does this team include TPLF ?

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Brhan.
        I will help you in Dedebit logic:
        Tplf deserves what it asked for because it made sacrifice. This forced Tplf to make Tigrians control all the upper hand. The rest started to oppose. Tplf created different dergu for each killil except Tigray. This brings more wealth for Tigray. The dergues in different killils lost for the mass. The mass demanded for justice. Tplf says ask your dergus, kill your dergus Tigray has nothing to do with you. The mass wanted to put the criminals Tplf, Tplf says this is war against Tigray.

        Sorry You tell me several time that you dont like to talk about Ethiopia. I just carried away by your new interest ie Etiopia.

        • Brhan

          Hi Mitiku
          The answer to my question was yes or no and not zeraf zeraf

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, Brhan
            This is your Qilinto! Say yes or no, or else? Banned from Awate, kkkkkkkkkk.

          • Brhan

            Hi Mitiku
            Lest assured you won’t banned from Awate

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Gedab,
    I thought the dictator was officially invited by the Kenyan president. There was a kenyan deligation led by the intelligence head of that country visited Asamara mid Nov.
    Also, after reporting on the dictator’s itenerary, you said “In a related news, Gedab News learned that the hunt for the previous Ethiopian spy-master, Getachew Assefa, is still raging,” Is it your intention to hint that, the dictator could be part of the hunt?

    • Paulos

      Selam Hayat,

      Debretsion in his last interview after the arrest of the ex-head of Metec said that there was no any other arrest warrant that was issued except for the ex-head of Metec. More over, Assefa is executive member of the governing body EPRDF and it doesn’t really make any sense for the head of the party to hunt down member of the executive committee. It is true that Abiy is under pressure from Isaias to hunt down TPLF leaders and that is making the Tigrean people nervous.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Paulosa,
        Exactly. I always doubt the competence of Abiy to become a leader that great country. That said, I also think he has what it takes to operate at a basic level. I just can’t understand Abiy when he heeds a crazy man who has led his own country and people to a near extinction. All that he is flagging as an agenda of priority in Ethiopia (example: corruption and violation of basic rights and acts of cruelty on citizens), Isayas did it in multiple more painful and cruel ways.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Paulos. You say that ‘It is true that Abiy is under pressure from Isaias to hunt down TPLF leaders’. It is clear that you are trying to augment your conspiracy theory, PIA meddling in Ethiopia’s internal affairs, in favor of your beloved TPLF. Do you not think that 90+ million Ethiopians are pressuring Abiy for TPLF criminal thugs to be hunted down? Your 24 x 7 support and defense of the TPLF suggests that you are either: 1) Yourself a TPLF member, 2) A TPLF paid troll, 3) Married to a TPLF member, 4) A son, nephew or brother of a TPLF member, or 5) A diaspora Tigrayan in support of Agazianism.

        • Hope

          [Hope, pls help us maintain the sanity of this forum. Help us stop disruption and don’t veer from discussing issues. You have no way of knowing who is who and our posting guidelines doesn’t allow discrimination based on citizenship, race or other identities. Deal with what people comment and stay within that presenter//moderator]

          Selam FH:
          Bingo!
          Hahahahuhuhuhu.
          [yiur comments questioning people’s identities was delete]
          Eritreans,aka Pseudo-Eritreans.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Hayat,

      The other day you said there is no arrest warrant to GA, this news show it does. Is this new or you were not aware.

      You also said GA being member of the executive or something, does that mean he has total immunity from being charged, if it warrants it?

      Berhe

      • Peace!

        Hi Berhino,

        As brilliant as she is it is disappointing to see her sacrificing her principles and values to defend TPLF thugs. I thought it was insane to defend PFDJ but obviously, I was wrong.

        Peace!

        • Blink

          Dear peace
          What exactly is her value and principle? I mean isn’t she doing the value and principles she adhere to her last breath . we have been in this forum , you know .

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Peace,
          Blink’s question is right: what exactly is my value and principle? And how am I sacrificing them? Do you really have to always say it for the sake of it?
          Hi Blink,
          What exactly the value and principle I adhere to my last breath? And if you know them, why are asking Peace “what exactly are her values and principles?”

          • Peace!

            Hi Queen,

            I was simply referring to the principles you have been applying for years when exposing the crimes of PFDJ against Eritrean people. Why not apply the same principles and stand with the people of Tigray against TPLF thugs instead of attacking Dr. Abiy? I mean what worst could come other than Abbay Tsehaye begging DIA for mercy.

            Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Berhe,
        I think what I said was something similar to “there was officially and publicly” published warrant or sort of. It could be that because I was not aware. If Gedab tells you there is one, then better to take that as a fact. The other point, I don’t think there is immunity for party officials. But, he is executive member of the ruling party. So, I would guess, they would discuss it at high political level and differ it to a legal decision. I don’t know how they operate for a fact but that sounded logical.

    • Peace!

      Hi Queen Hayat,

      I think it might be easier to apply for Awate Team membership than to question the motive of Gedab News.

      Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Peace,
        I was not questioning their motive. I was encouraging them to say more if they can, just for clarification purposes.

    • Selam Hayat,
      Gedab reported a news item and left speculation and analysis to the reader. If there is a fact it learned, and is new worthy, it is not will not hint but report it.
      Thank you