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“Deserters”, Combatants Triggered Eritrea-Ethiopia Battle

Gedab News has received credible information that the shoot-out between Eritrean and Ethiopian border-patrol soldiers of last weekend was triggered when some of Eritrea’s conscripted soldiers crossed the border to Ethiopia, were shot at by Eritrean soldiers, and members of armed Eritrean opposition groups hosted by Ethiopia returned fire.

Here’s the timeline:

(a) On Saturday night, around midnight, Eritrean youth, mostly members of the National Service, crossed the border to Ethiopia. Past the border town of Tsorona, on the Ethiopian side, are at least three armed Eritrean opposition groups;

(b) Members of Eritrean Defense Forces (EDF) pursuing the escapees and deserters fired their guns;

(c) Members of Eritrea’s opposition groups returned fire;

This exchange goes on from midnight to four am on Sunday morning, with the Eritrean Defense Forces escalating by using mortars and RPGs;

By 5:00 am, the Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF) joined the fray and the Eritrean opposition groups retreat from the area;

From 5:00 am Sunday until mid-afternoon Monday, the EDF and ENDF call re-enforcement and exchange heavy artillery fire, with Ethiopian forces penetrating into Eritrea and Eritreans waging counter-offensive.

The Ethiopian government’s initial statement that there were “no clashes” is either because it was not aware of the clash between the Eritrean Defense Forces and Eritrean opposition or, more likely, that it doesn’t want to draw attention to the fact that it is hosting armed Eritrean opposition groups.

Similarly, the Eritrean government is not going to admit that it is engaged in a civil war with Eritreans since it doesn’t even recognize that they exist.

Despite the fact that Ethiopian government spokesperson has reported “significant casualties on both sides”, the international community is yet to voice its concern and call on both parties to de-escalate the tense environment.

Supporters of the Eritrean government have already begun pointing to the conflict as justification for why Eritrea needs to maintain a large conscript army pressed into indefinite service. The battle also highlights the fact that the Eritrea-Ethiopia border remains un-demarcated due to Ethiopia’s refusal to abide by the ruling of the Eritrea-Ethiopia Boundary Commission, and, despite representations made by the International community that they would apply pressure on the party which doesn’t comply, they have not.

Opponents of the Eritrean government are also pointing out to the conflict to demonstrate that for as long as the “National Service” remains indefinite and Eritrean youth are forced into harsh labor, its members will use every avenue, even the militarized border between Eritrea and Ethiopia, to risk death and try to escape.

Additionally, the fact that there are still exiled armed groups, twenty-five years after Eritrea’s independence, demonstrates the absence of the right to organize, assemble and practice peaceful politics within your own country.

It is unclear if the guns are silent now. Eritrea’s president, Isaias Afwerki, has given orders to the Eritrean Defense Forces to remain in a state of alert and to anticipate an offensive from Ethiopia.

Over the years, whenever the government of Ethiopia battled with Eritrea-hosted Ethiopian opposition groups, it had repeatedly threatened that any future military engagement with Eritrea would result in Ethiopia taking overwhelming measures to ensure that such engagements would not be repeated.

In this engagement, the Ethiopian opposition forces do not seem to have been involved.

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  • Mehari the ferrari

    ሰላም ክቡራት ደቂ ኤረይ

    ምንም እኳ ኢዶም ንምሃብ እውን እንተኾነ ,ወትሃደራትና ኣብ ክንዲ እቲ ዝተለምደ ሜላዊ ምዝላቕን መኻልፍን ንድሕሪት ምኻድ,..ንደቡብ ቕድሚት ብምእታው ንወያነ ኢዶም ምሃቦም ዳርጋ ኤርትራና ከም ዝስዓረት እዩ ዝቑጸር።እንቋዕ ሓጎሰና ሰራዊትና ንቕድሚት ምስጓሙ… ዋላ እኳ ኢዱ ንምሃብ እውን እንተኾነ፣ ወያነ ገፋሕፋሕ እንተብዚሖም ግን ካብ ጾረና ክሳዕ ዓዲ ቐይሕን ደቀምሓረን (ንድሕሪት ገጽና) ከም ንደፍኦም ኣይጠራጠሩ። ወያነ፣በዚ ከይተማህሩ ገፋሕፋሕ እንተብዚሖም ድማ ክሳዕ ሳልሕ ከም ንደፍኦም ይፍለጡ !!!

  • Kokhob Selam

    ክቡር ሓው

    ኣብ እዋን ሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ‘ውን እንተኾነ ወያኔ ትግራይ ንባደመ ክቆጻጸሩን ከመሓድሩን እዮም ዝደልዩ ዝነበሩ :: ብ፩፱፯፰ (1978) ድማ ኣነ ውን ናይ ዓይኒ ምስክር ዝኾንኩሉ – ተጋድሎ ሓርነት ካብ ባድመ ክወጹ ብዘተ ስል ዝተሓሰሙ ብሓይሊ ደፊኣ ሒዛቶ እያ :: እንተኾነ ግን እቲ ቡህታን መሪሕነት ህዝባዊ ግንባር ብ ፩፱፹ (1980 ) ምስ ወያኔ ትግራይ ልፍንቲ ፈጢሩ ነቲ ዓቢ ሃገራዊ ሓይሊ ጀብሃ ካብ ሜዳ ምስ ኣልገስዎ:- ህዝባዊ ግንባር እቲ ባድመ ዝበሃል ቦታ ንወያኔ ገዲፉሎም እዩ ዝነበረ :: ንምታይ ዝብል ሕቶ ገና ብመድራኹ ዝግለጽ ጉዳይ እዩ : ብርግጽ ሓንቲ መዓልቲ ናይ ‘ዚ ኩሉ ኣብ ልዕሊ ህዝብን መሬትን ዝተፈጸም ሸርሕታት ነጻ ቤት ፍርዲ እዛ ሃገር ኣብ ማዕርፎ ከምዘብጽሖ ርግጸኛ እየ ::

    ብዝኾነ – ያኢ መራሕቲ ህግደፍ ሓለይቲ ልዕላውነት እዛ ሃገር ኮይኖም – ነቲ ብሰላም ክምለስ ዝነበሮ ሕቶ ብብደዐ ክሳብ ‘ውን ፀሓይ ‘ውን ብምዕራብ ድ ኣ ትወጽእ እምበር ባድመስ ብሓይልና ምስ በሉ ንህዝብና ንዳግማይ ጥፍኣትን ሞትን ድኣ ኣዳረግዎ :: እምበር ዓለም ብዓለማ ዝረኣየቶ ፍሽለት ምስ ተጎልቦቡ ልዕሊ ባድመ ውን ፪፭ (25 ) ኪሎ ሜትር ስሒቦም ጸኒሖም :: ነዚ ‘ውን ገና ህዝብና ብሰላምን ብሕግን ከይመሓደር ከም ጅሆ ተጠቂሞሙሉ :: ገለ እንተኢልካ ባድመ እያ ምኽኒት : ከምቲ ንዓለም ሙሉእ ዘስምዕዎ ስምዕታስ ንዘይፈልጣ ብድመ ልዕሊ ዋሺንግቶን ትምዕብል ዓባይ ከተማ እያ :: ባድመ ክብሉ ድማ እነሆ ሃገርና ባዲማ ::

    ሕቡራት መንግስታን ስርዓት ኢትዮጵያን ጉዳይ ባድመ እንተዝዓጽው ድማ ኣዝዩ ጽቡቕ ነይሩ :: ግን እዚ ስለዘይገበሩ ሃገር ብዘይ ሕጊ ክትመሓደር – ህዝባ ኣብ ስቃይን ሓሳርን ክነብር ምግባር ፍጹም ምኽንያታዊ ኣይኮነን :: ብመሰርቱ ነዚ ጉዳይ ዘስምዕ ሕጋዊ መንግስቲ ‘ውን የድሊ እዩ :: ኣነ ከምዝሪኦ ዘለኹ ኢትዮጵያ ህግደፍ ክሳብ ኣብ ስልጣን ዘሎ ጉዳይ ባድመ ክዕጾ ይደሊ የለን :: ህግደፍ ድማ ዳንጋ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ርእሲ ውን የብሉን :: ብዘይዚ ህግደፍ ጉዳይ ባድመ ዘይምፍትሑ ከም መናዊሒ ዕድመ እዩ ዝጥቀመሉ ዘሎ ::ህግደፍ ፖሎቲካዊ ውድብ እዩ ኢልካ ‘ውን ክትገልጾ ኣይትኽእልን ኢኻ:: ስለዚ ድማ ሓግሒግካ ከይደርበኻ ዝርከብ ሰላምን ራህዋን ክህሉ ኣይክእልን ዝብል እምንቶ እዩ ዘለኒ ::

    ሕጂ ናይ ቀዳምነታት ቀዳምነት ነቲ ከም ባድመ ኣብ ትሕቲ ኢትዮጵያ ዘይኣተው ካልእ መሬታት ካብ ናይ ውሽጠ ሕሉፍ ጸልኢ ነጻ ምውጽኡ እዩ ዘድሊ :: ሕጋዊ -ግርማ ዘለዎ – ምዕሩግ መንግስቲ ወኒንካ ድማ እያ ባድመ ክትምለስ ትኽእል ::

  • Yoty Topy

    Hi Awate readers,

    Very informative discussion regarding the current Ethio-Eritrean boarder skirmish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ee67BOv_5hg

  • mesob werQi

    Greetings to all

    This article is nothing but a spin to mislead the Eritrean public. It wants to to portray this as a conflict among Eritreans and the corrupt TPLF as some group concerned about the welfare of Eritreans. It’s very clear that this is a continuation of the border dispute.

    Kudos to the Eritrean Defense Forces for teaching the invader a lesson. Well done guys!

  • ASMERA

    Hi HOPE,
    you are really Hoples person.
    How you can not imagin that the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea will continue for at least 200 years? this is the reality. which international community will help us, no body. instead they are using this golden chance of war between the two contries and fueling it up further and further. you have to observe the new movement to separate Afar from Eritrea? this is supported by international community…. so the war will continue until we realize that we have to solve our problems by ourselves.

  • Abi

    Hope Nebsi
    It is an impressive shopping list.
    Deha behilmu qine bayTeTa amedu beweTa!
    Zekone koynu, you forgot to add on your wish list of hardware, someone who make use of these hardware. How about 6,000,000 Chinese?
    You also forgot a submarine in the list. No wish list is complete without a submarine.
    So far the summaries you procured are known for sinking not resurfacing. You got to do a better job.

    • Hope

      Abi:
      The Submarines, the Warships, etc—are strictly confidential…The list is only the tip of the iceberg for security reasons.

  • Desalegn

    Selamat:

    ዕለት: 15/06/2016

    መጸዋዕታ ንምክልኻል ሓይልታት ኤርትራን ህዝቢ ኤርትራን

    ኣብ ሃገርና ክወርድ ንዝኸል ሳዕቤናት [Risks] ኣብ ግምት ብምእታው ንሰረራዊትን ህዝብን ኤርትራ እጽዉእ ኣለኹ።

    መንግስቲ ኤርትራን መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያን ንዋንነት ባድማ ዝምልከት ናይ ኤርትራ ምኳኑ ንዉሳኔ ውዱብ ሕቡራት ሃገራት ብዎግዒ ተቐቢለንኦ ከብቅዓ ናይ ዶብ ምሕንጻጽ ስራሕ ንኸይትግበር ግና ኣብ ሓደ መኣዲ ብምቕራብ ቅድመ ኹነት ንትግባረ ምሕንጻጽ ኣብ ባይታ ንምስልሳል ኣብ ስምምዕ ክበጽሓ ኣይተኻእለን። መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ኤርትራ ኣብ መሬታ ይኹን ኣብ ባሕራ ዝኾነ ዓይነት ሕቶ ንኸቕርብ መሰል ከምዘይብሉ ብኑጹር ይፈልጥ እዩ።

    እንተኾነ ግን ኣቶ ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ ጸሓፊ ህገደፍ ምስ ዉሑዳት ሰዓብቱን ብሙኻን ኤርትራ ሃገርና ፍጹም ንምዕናው ዘዓለመ ንጎረባብቲ ሃገርና የመን ጁቡቲ ሱዳን እትዮጵያን ህዝበን ብሰላም ንኸይነብር ዝተፈላለየ ምኽኒያታት ብምፍጣር ኩናት ከካይድ ምጽንሑ ናይ ኣደባባይ ሚስጥር እዩ። ኣብዚ ሕጂ እዋን ዝጅምር ዘሎ ኩናት ምስ ኢትዮጵያ የዋህ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብዛዕባ ዶብ ወይ ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ጥራሕ ክመስሎ ይኽእል ይኸዉን። እቲ ሓቂ ግን ካብዚ ወጻእ ንምኻኑ ካብ ክግበር ዝጸንሐ ምንቅስቓሳትን ርክባቲን ምስ ዝተፈላልያ የዕራብ ሃገራት ብቐሊሉ ንምርዳእ ይከኣል እዩ። ምኽኒያቱ ኢሳያስ ምስ የዕራብ ሃገራት ብምዉጋን ኣብ ዲቕ ዝበለ ኩናት (Full -scale war) ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ምክያድ ንዝብል ዝንቡዕ ዝኾነ ስትራተጂ ተኸቲሉ ይሰርሕ ምህላዉ ብኑጹር ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብፍላይ ሓይሊታት ምክልኻል ኤርትራ ክርድኦን ብኣግኡ ኣድላይ ስጉምቲ ኣብ መራሒ ህግደፍን ሰዓብቱን ብምዉሳድ ሃገርን ህዝብን ኤርትራ ካብ ዕንወት ንኽተድሕኑ ጻዊዓዒተይ የቕርብ ኣለኹ።

    ሰላምን ቅሳነትን ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ እምነ!

    መሃንዲስ ደሳለኝ በርሀ

    • mesob werQi

      Selam desalegn

      Don’t you guys ever get tired? The Eritrean defense forces(ErDF) don’t give a hoot about your dreams of coming to power under this or that pretext. It’s busy defending the nation. And oh yeah, it’s accumulating all sorts of support from whoever is willing to give it to crush the Woyane army. That includes from the highly-equipped armies of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and so on. And I smell the enemy wetting its pants, hahaha.

      Thanks and keep it real

    • Michael Solomon

      Dear Desalenge – not sure how to spell your name in English -but from your writing you seem to be a TPLF cyber commando! here to advocate for their agenda. Two things to remember first when it comes to Eritrea’s borders or sovereignty -there is no difference of opinion among all Eritreans -second when it comes to national service -as long as there is threat from your country (xxxxx) national service has no time limit in Eritrea it will be endless -mark my word and all Eritreans who sacrificed their sons and daughters will tell you that -there was no time limit during the open Gedli and there will be non now and forever…

      Last on your mercenary “armed opposition” who chose to remain with TPLF over 25 years it is their choice -but they will not and should not be given any access inside Eritrea…because they are armed ….against their own country

      Cheers -Mike

  • Horn Analyst

    Dear Hope,
    Sanctions don’t mean much when the Chinese and Russians are willing to sell you whatever you want as long as you pay for it in cash. In the case of Chinese, you don’t even have to pay for it in cash. You can put it on your credit card. It means you owe them something down the road. In the case of Russians, they just want cash. Cash has been forthcoming not just since Bisha Mining but also from the GCC on leasing the port of Assab (They paid hundreds of millions to lease Assab some say it’s in the billions). Lastly, Shaebia is not dumb. One thing Shaebia knows how to do is fight a war. It always replenishes its stock of armaments. I wouldn’t discount the help from Egypty, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and others when it comes to technological assistance with respect to satellite imagery…etc. And yes, Eritrea is always important to Egypt and Saudi Arabia just Ethiopia is always important to the United States.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hope,
    Thanks for the explanation. I could agree with your characterization of the opposition (all of then, bjumla) according to you. But can you agree with me none were servants of the Derg. I HOPE you agree with that. Now many of the Derh operatives of yesteryear are masquerading as operatives of the neo-derg PFDJ. It is all the samee, Papa Mengistu or Papa Isu, all the same.

    • Michael Solomon

      Hi Mr Johar – just for once would you please separate your intoxicated hate brain from only hating “Isu” to loving your country and people – I understand it will be difficult since you are programmed that way or you might even lose a pay check and privilege as an “opposition member /organizer”

      ! Eritreans will then pay more attention to any useful thing you might say once they see your have another brain that cares about his people and country!

      Your opposition to anything Eritrean is pretty obvious…for a long time now…

      Respectfully ,
      Mike

  • Hope

    Selam Blata Demsas–(Abi):
    -You call a spade, a spade
    -A terrorist ,a terrorist
    -Some one with crooked mind,crooked
    -To a kezab,kezab…
    Trump is a straight shooter minus his racist remarks.

    • Abi

      Hope my cousin
      The similarity between you and Trump is he shoots aimlessly you shout senselessly.
      Ende Isayas mefoker enji mewerwer atawqm.
      Against All Odds!! Zeraf Hope Wedi Keren!!!

    • Blata Demssas

      hello hope,
      you called the ones who are fighting for their rights ‘terrorists’, what is your definition of a terrorist.
      thx,

  • Blata Demssas

    Hello Hope,
    Why are you engaged in a serious name calling habit (terrorists, crooked, dirty etc..are you’re somehow related to Mr. Trump). If you live in the western world I would suggest some intense
    behavioural counselling to refine your running mouth. Be civil, would you? you’re Hopeless.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hello Hope,

    Remember: don’t engage the moderator and I am sure you were reminded of that many times. Bad luck, moderators cannot do more than what they are doing.

    Of course you can communicate with me as Saleh Johar, (not as part of the moderation team) but I reserve the right to respond or not. But I am curious, you mean you don’t know that?

  • Abi

    Hope Nebsi
    You must be scared to death!
    You are showing symptoms of ” flapping hand tremor ” . You are hitting the keyboard uncontrollably.
    It is time to change your depend. It is wet already.
    Ayzoh Jigna Hope.

    • mesob werQi

      Abi, enante ena meleflef.

      You are the one scared of the Oromo Youth uprising wiping out all your ill-gained wealth accumulated as a result of the rampant corruption and cronyism that’s well known south of the Mereb.

      • Abi

        Kemey mesob werQi
        Ferihe Tirayilki? Eway , chigir metsiyu.
        When the Oromos and Amharas come to my life I hope to find refuge north of mereb. Preferably on Godana Harinet. I’m kind of spoiled. You know what I mean? I like to rule wherever I go.
        Yeqenyeley.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Hope,

    You wrote: “Flip-Flopping MoI did not mention the version of the gedeb news”
    Flip flopping coming from you is very funny. But why would the MoI mention Gedab News, they see it just like the way you see it 🙂

    Have a good day

    • iSem

      Hi Saleh:
      Well, I though you understood flip flopping Hope. He is giving MoI a compliment by calling it Flip flopping , because to Flip flop between truth and a lie, some times MoI tell a lie some times tells the truth,which means MoI is not hardcore, compulsive lair. For example I prefer Hope to Nitricc and dawit, because he is a flip flopping , while the other two are not. Hope some times sides with his people sometimes with PFDJ

      By the way Q to Saleh and Sal: anyobe can elnlighten me buyt I addres it to this two as one is pulbish writer and other is prolific writer soon to be publsihe, slef pulbishe by his holding company Nefast Press
      Questions why do we tell “A” Lie but tell “THE” Truth

      • haileTG

        hi iSem,

        aha…till they get to you may I illustrate: the Ethio and Eri govts. told different lies about the same incident. Yet Gedab told, THE TRUTH ( as there was only one). 🙂 (I am hoping that Mahmuday is taking a siesta, and won’t hear us).

        • Yoty Topy

          Hi HialeTG,
          This reminds me of a line from an 80’s Brirish satire . According to it, the general rule of rumor/gossip is that; Deny everything until it is official but if something is official the opposite of the position more often than not the case. I hope that makes sense 🙂

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi iSem,

        That is simple: lies are abundant, any lie would do: A Lie. But Truth is rare (at least in the case of PFDJ) and that is why it is specific: The Truth. If you say The Lie and A Truth, you are definitely “flopping-flip” not flip-flopping. How did I do?

  • haileTG

    Hi all,

    Beyene Russom said yesterday that the Ethiopian attack was intended to supplement the “political campaign” of the COIE by a “military campaign”. Gosh, that guy sure lacks a marble or two those ears! Any how the MoI also released another pressrelease that makes no mention of CoIE and instead claims Ethiopia is trying to divert from simmering internal crisis as well as attempting to stifle the “promising progress” in Eritrea??? The Ethiopian narrative was equally aimed at the credulous and claims that Eritrean regime went for the bazooka after Mr Smith’s initial briefing of journalists on June 8 regarding the people he wants to speak to in Eritrea about crimes against humanity ( including IA). Our usual “credible sources” have also something or another about the situation. In the end, however, the official line is the one that is taken up by the powers to be. In this case it would be a case of Ethiopia and Eritrea not being capable of assuring peace in the militarized areas. PFDJ is still on the hook for June 21 at the HRC, but it sure did take all sides by surprise. This is not only in terms of gaining excuse/cover for its past and current crimes but also presenting a veiled threat to the intl. community to clue them into a possible violent ramifications if the regime is cornered. Let’s wait and see, and remember that it is not a good idea to mess around with people who mess around with people that you don’t mess around with. PFDJ need to smell the coffee and wake up to the real world that it doesn’t control

    • Berhe Y

      Dear HaileTG,

      This is really a great line:

      “remember that it is not a good idea to mess around with people who mess around with people that you don’t mess around with. PFDJ need to smell the coffee and wake up to the real world that it doesn’t control”.

      Berhe

  • HayaT1

    Dear all,
    The Ethiopian leaders are not stupid to start a war at the very time HGDF is in serious trouble. The unfolding diplomatic and political events are going against HGDF, the very way Ethiopia has been pursuing, and there is no rational for Ethiopia to ignite a war.
    I have the feeling the cruel HGDF, as absurd as it has always been, is trying to present itself to the world portraying half-truth adages to solicit sympathy. HGDF goon’s have started using newly concocted rhetoric including lines “a small, poor African country is the victim of the powerful for doing the right things” to avert the looming ICC case. And this war claim is another possible political tactic to justify its current behavior.
    HGDF’s political mindset is fossilized in its rebel era and its appliances are not only adventurous but also the mix of peril and bizarre acts. No one should expect HGDF to make behavioral change.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Hayat1

      There is always two sides to every story. And this is the other side of the story:

      The Eritrean leaders are not stupid to start a war at the very time Woyane is in a serious trouble. The unfolding internal turmoil, hunger, and uncertainties inside Ethiopia is going against the Woyane regime, the very way the PFDJ regime has been hoping for a while. Therefor there is no rational for Eritrea to ignite a war.

      I have the feeling that the cunning, cruel, ሓሳዳት: ጠላማት Woyane – as absurd as it is, are trying to present themselves to the world, portraying as a regional military power with double digit economic growth. The Woyane goon’s are daily repeating their master’s rhetoric including lines such us “Eritrea’s National Service Program is National Slavery” with the intent to avert world attention from the looming hunger and mass-uprising in the heart of their land. And this ‘Eritrea started the war’ claim is another age-old political tactic to divert the world attention and to hide their aggressive behavior.

      The evil Woyane’s political mindset is fossilized in their DNA; and its appliances are not only adventurous but also the mix of peril and bizarre acts. No one should expect the evil Woyanes to make behavioral change – ኣመል: ምስ መግነዝ::

      Now, take your pick and believe the story you want to believe.

      Semere Tesfai

      • Rasdar

        hello again,
        I have to finish my state to mr Tesfai; no tesfa from this kind of dude:-) finished statement follows:
        Smere mallet, what are you ? : Human or Hgdef? If anybody tells me you oppose hgdef, I would call them nutts 🙂
        Peace .

      • HayaT1

        Hi Semere,
        Not really, there are multiple sides to every story, not just two. Yet, democratic credo allows you to lie or make mistakes to, at least, certain degree. There was nothing in the articles that necessitates to invoke Woyane. What you wrote, including its hogwash word use “ሓሳዳት: ጠላማት” is reminiscent to the hallucination of the low-level HGDF orangutan in human face.
        Of course Eritrea is being led by a Dark Age like barbaric tyrant that forces the very young and old, the educated and the patriotic to rot and die in silence without due process. But there is natural law for everything, and in due time the thuggish cult will wither away (possibly sharing the fate of Gadaffi).
        I have faith in the people of Eritrea to replace the cruel psychopath with a more tolerable, responsible form of governance. In contemporary world, there is NO government that have invaded all of its neighbors in just the first 6 years of its existence. And what has happened last week is emanated out of the very HGDF short sighted political calculus. All the rest is the same HGDF nonsense adages and you should keep it to yourself.
        Hayu

    • kazanchis

      Hello HayaT1,

      Well said! Ethiopia had more than enough provocations, if there was an intention to go to war it would have happen long ago. But, Ethiopia insist only in taking proportional action for any provocations. Why bother going to war when Isayas’s regime is decomposing in itself?

  • Thomas D

    Hope,

    This is coming from the one who is unstable, cruel, “lekbat” and rebel hope/hopeless. I always think you are simply here to get the attention you missed from your family, neighbors and community. That is what I think of you, sorry!!

  • Thomas D

    Hi Awatista,

    This news looking at the whole scope makes perfect sense. I have talked with many of our youth who crossed the border to Ethiopia. They all have told me that there is no Ethiopian Army at the border area. You have to walk all the way to the small towns to find the ethiopian soldiers. This is actually is not in favor of those military slavery conscripts because they get shot and followed by the Eritrean forces until they get to the location where the ethiopian soldiers are stationed. The point is that the ethiopians are not threatened by the EDF army. They know that none of the EDF members has an appetite to fight. If a skirmish along a border is to happen, they are easily able to neutralize it. So, Gedab’s news is credible as it has outlined:
    a) Conscripts crossed the border
    b) EDF as usual shot at them
    c) Eritrean armed opposition responded
    d) Ethiopian military got involved and as usual overpowered the demoralized Eritrean forces.

    This the situation that has been and this exactly what will remain to be unfortunately. Our nation is in grave danger that is why we need to have those mafia who are causing this go to ICC.

  • Ismail AA

    Hello all,
    First, I must thank with deserved admiration members of Gedab News Team for the effort they make to follow events in Eritrea and the region (despite the resources at their disposal) and come out with valuable information. Now, we are fairly better off than the past two days because we have clearer picture of what had unfolded on the borders areas between Eritrean and Ethiopia.

    Observers suspected that some unexpected event might have ignited the clashes. Neither of the two sides is in state of waging war at this time because the known external political as well as domestic economic conditions that constrain their
    movement in the direction of risking all-out war. Needlessly though, this is not to rule out that one of the belligerents could decide to gamble for one reason or another as diversionary ploy. And, the likely side in this scenario is the dictator in Asmara whose regime has been facing more pressure than the Ethiopian government. The Commission’s latest ruling should have worsened the concerns of Isayas and his henchmen.

    The fear is that this new development could fester on and further escalate. I would guess this will depend on which side that has suffered most from the clashes, and may try to repair impaired pride.

    Otherwise, the Ethiopian side may not need to push the status quo towards all out confrontation unless they plan to embark on a mission to rid Eritrea of the dictator and halt the constant militarization. Beyond that they are comfortable
    with the no-war-no-war condition which has been, and will remain to be, to their advantage as long as the dictator is weak enough as not to pose any threat to them. The EPRDF government has in fact more to worry about domestically than being embroiled in yet another costly war in Eritrea.

    All considered any gamble that may to lead to full-scale war will be disaster to the peoples of both nations; it is they who will be consumed by its fire.

    Ismail AA

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam All
    “Deserters” sounds familiar? I wonder Wayane has become so comfortable that it wouldn’t even create new lie. The border clashes between Djibouti and Eritrea was narrated in that way and everyone copied and pasted it. And now this latest aggression is characterized as Eritrea’s fault for chasing “deserters” deep into Ethiopian territory.
    – apparently Eritrean forces penetrated a heavily manned Ehio-Eritrean border (Ethiopian North Command has around 150,000 strong army).
    – apparently EDF, not only walked into Ethiopian territory (no body knows what General Saare and his army was doing) but also fired their guns inside Ethiopian territory.
    -Apparently EDF is met inside Ethiopian territory, after walking through a heavily manned operational zone, and battled with Eritrean rebel groups inside Ethiopia. The battle lasts for for 4 hours (2400-0400), Eritrea “escalates” by using RPGs and Mortars (unless EDF used missiles, with current positions of the armies of both countries held for more than 15 years, the mortars EDF is believed to equipped with would not make it even to Ethiopian lines let alone inside Ethiopian territory, unless a well prepared and insertion had been made with fire support units. And if this is the case, the purpose was not a hot pursuit of deserters. Anyway, I do have credible information that EDF did not make that type of move.
    – Now, here is the weird thing: there rages a battle behind Ethiopian lines for 4 hours, and according to Gedab news, “[b]y 5:00 am, the Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF) joined the fray and the Eritrean opposition groups retreat from the area.” And yet, the Ethiopian government does not know about this as evidenced by the denial of its spokesperson. And What does “and the Eritrean opposition groups retreat from the area” mean? Didn’t we are told that it was the EDF that was supposed to retreat to its place? Was it that the Eritrean Opposition groups that crossed the border into Eritrea and then retreated? You see, some times you find the truth buried deep down in the debris.
    Hayat Adem did not help Sagem, I hope they will notice that and tell her “Hey, you are killing us; we are not the spear head of Ethiopian invasion, shush, don’t ever repeat that.”
    ________________________________________________________________________________________
    There is more to this. There was unprovoked aggression by Ethiopia. Ethiopia occupied Eritrean territory around Akran of Tsorona Dstrict. Although I have a guess as to why yesterday was chosen for this action, I don’t want to delve into analysis I could not support 100%.
    I choose to hope for PEACE although peace prayers of this region have not been answered in its history; but we pray. What else can we do? War should be condemned. We have seen enough of its grizzly scenes.
    * My criticism is not directed to the writers of Gedab news, but to whoever gave them that information because news is as good as the source.

    • Amde

      Selam Mahmud,

      Is there no “no-man’s-land” between the two? The Gedab article is perfectly understandable to me if I assume we are talking about the clashes occurring in this no-man’s land.

      Amde

      • Mahmud Saleh

        SELAM AMDE
        Here is one hint that tells you the clash started inside Ethiopian territory and not in the “no-man’s-land”
        “On Saturday night, around midnight, Eritrean youth, mostly members of the National Service, crossed the border to Ethiopia. Past the border town of Tsorona, on the Ethiopian side, are at least three armed Eritrean opposition groups;”
        Normally there will be a “no-man’s land between the lines. We know these are not heavily trenched lines, however they are active (some strategic areas may be trenched, others may be under different methods of surveillance. Normally, reconnaissance and surveillance and other special units meet up in this area, but they don’t engage. They know it; they can keep their contact or break it as needed, but seldom do they fire at each other. Sometimes, these units meet crossing civilians, and address them according to each country’s policy. So if the fight was in this area the news would make some sense, but it clear says the battle erupted on the Ethiopian side.
        Regards.

    • iSem

      Hi Mahmuday:
      I am having trouble understating your comments lately.
      Now why are you shocked and finding contradictions about PFDJ chasing deserters? PFDJ chases even unarmed teenagers, in doing so they have shot at Petros Solomon’s kinds, an one of them, Meaza was under age then.
      In doing so they have murdered a group pf teenagers including 3 young siblings, they have shot and killed an Eritrean actress and many thousands who are nameless, so there is not doubt they chase armed deserters, I am shocked at your shock, deserters? You asked in shock
      And why are you addressing the government of Ethiopia as Woyane? You can say same about me, I address GoE of Eritrea as PFDJ as I want to delineate between the people of Eritrea and PFDJ, since they have not created any semblance of a government so far, on the contrary, although they are the core of EPRDF, I do not see Woyane in the Ethiopian army, at least the Woyane of Dedebit because they have created something that resembles an Ethiopian government made up several organizations
      Using basic common sense there is not motive for Ethiopia to start clashes days after PFDJ was accused of crimes against humanity, or is it mistakes against humanity? PFDJ may not have started it too, it is border and there are always skirmishes and this could have been one of them that was taken little bit further due to the simmering conflicts and the Eritrean opposition point of view makes sense too

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Selam iSem
        Have I ever say that Eritrean forces never fire at border-crossing citizens? Please stop it. The children of Petros Solomon are very close to me in many ways; and I know their story. But we are now talking about a specific news item and about a specific development. If you have anything to add to the debate, go ahead, but don’t tell me that “since Eritrea is known to fire at border-crossing people, this must be true.” The word “deserters” was chosen by the source anticipating the kind of rationale you are making.
        Wayane government? I use them interchangeably, just as I use PFDJ and GOE. BTW: Wayane is not derisive to me. It was an organization that once stood on the side of Eritreans.

        • iSem

          Hi Mahmuday: Why are you snapping?
          Yes we are talking about specific news item in relation to the CoI report, did not you equovocate regarding the shoot to kill policy, doubted the number of people crossing borders to go to Ethiopia when we were debating the report in your most infamous comment to date, in a comment that lacked clarity regarding the report, I am talking about that. So chasing deserters is not a game for PFDJ, it is in line with its shoot to kill policy, that is what I am adding to the debate, I think, adding is not the right word, hammering is the right one
          I am not shocked even if Ethiopia made the incursions, I expect it in the tense border situation and it is kind of irrelevant ( who shot the first shot) in the scheme of the grand narrative of shoot to kill and CoI report, we are not JUST debating the incident, we are debating it in relations to the report that drove PFDJ insane, I do not blame them because after believing that they were liberators they have been accused for crimes against humanity by Humanity
          By the way, I do not remember Woyane in the side of the Eritrea people when they were rebels, can you tell me when and how?
          Now they are because they are sheltering Eritreans who are escaping the hell that the CoI report exposed

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan iSem

            entay ymesleka bxaay iSem, I think I will have to mail HM CD to you with Alaat bun wa Rababa…..
            You say “Yes we are talking about specific news item in relation to the CoI report…”
            BereKet sang ” ane kbla merHaba nsa tbleni kerkaba….”….No, I’m not discussing COI. I’m discussing war, something I don’t like discussing. Life is being cut short for those young people, just do the right thing. Call your representatives. I’m not really into discussing speculations at this time. I have analyzed what’s been written. That’s all.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Mahmud Saleh,
          .
          “What’s required of us is to call our Senators and Representative…..” I will tell you what is required. Gigantic Chutzpah.
          .
          I think it was a day after the COIE press conference where they accused the Government of Eritrea of crimes against humanity, that you became unglued and were Ethiopia this Ethiopia that in your usual long diatribe.
          I remember being surprised at your off the chart analysis and characterized your comment/accusations as a diversionary tactic. Salt and pepper of your political stew, I said.
          .
          Now few days later, your Government is using the same tactic with blood. You keep reading between the lines to some non existing facts to discredit others. Now it is Weyane this Weyane that (Your former comrades in arms for crying out loud) to belittle, discredit others. Some former ELFits are now Weyane soldiers to you, that is the extent you have gone.
          .
          As for what is happening in the area recently, I have a certain degree of faith and trust in the Ethiopian Gov. Not a blind faith, mind you, but based on track record and the fact that we do not have … ONE MAN…. making the decision on the lives of our people. It is my belief that a discussion would have been conducted to tally up cost and benefit of any actions of that nature to be taken.
          .
          .
          SOoooo. Days after the U.N people accuse the PIA and Co. of crimes against humanity, what in God’s name, is the benefit to Ethiopia to initiate a military activity against PIA an CO?
          .
          .
          Nowwwwww. What was the benefit to you to Ethiopinize the U.N accusations and now PIA and Co. to initiate a military activity and publicize the incident, as never before?
          .
          .The mind set is uncanny in its similarity, it is the capacity that is different.
          .
          Mr. K.H

      • Hope

        iSem:
        Can you,for God’s sake, make a similar argument against the Weyane Gov for not abiding by the Rule of Law and keeping Eritrea and Eritreans hostages with its daily economic and political sabotages, No War No Peace Policy,etc—-
        In iSem’s mind,the EDF should allow all the National Service Recruitees to run away…….

        • iSem

          Selam Hope No! Still things are not sinking for you. We have been hearing skirmishes in the border for the last 16 years now, the last major one was two attacks by Ethiopia, one officially admitted by the attacker, your PFDJ was so impotent to protect our territories and skies from attack. Also you are not telling the truth when you said this: “In iSem’s mind, the EDF should allow all the National Service Recruitees to run away…….” because national services is OK, but what you are advocating and what we have is not N.service, it is Nations Slavery. Yes, they should allow the young to lead their lives by making it not 18 months but just 6-month military training and also they should include the diaspora Eritreans who are in the right age to do it and if they do not do it arrest them when they visit Eritrea, national service should not be the burden only on those living inside the country. What we have is slavery, you know it, I know it, Mahmuday knows it, Nitricc knows it and CoE said on behalf of the Eritreans who lived it and above all and most importantly the young people know it and they are escaping from it. Ethiopia’s occupation of .000001% of our land has no bearing and impact on our slavery, it is PFDJ’s policy and need to enslave and your unequivocal support that is enslaving our youth and raping our girls. Stop it Hope, do not go against the current of people’s liberties

    • betri_weyn

      Dear ex jebha commander
      Eritrea’s leader says he sleeps 19 HOURS a day
      07 Oct 2011
      Recent interview exposed the Eritrean leader that he sleeps much of the day and night… If you need more chopped video I could upload 4 u….

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    In the name of national reconstruction, oppression and hard work are forcing the conscripts to flee the country to avoid for life enslavement. If any, the source and cause of border conflicts will be the Berlin Wall policy of Isayas, who is enforcing shoot-to-kill on the borders.

    The backbone support of the regime, according to Isayasists, is the conscripts. Yet, the mistreatment of the conscripts is already causing uproar in the world. According to COIE, Isayas and the Isayasists are using Ethiopia’s refusal to implement the EEBC decision as a justification for the enslavement of the conscripts. Thus, we can say COIE is far ahead of Isayas and because of the COIE presented evidences that indicated Isayas’s systematic enslavement as well as forcible recruitment and retention of the conscripts, the world is not ready to accept Isayas’s reasons that there are threats from Ethiopia that necessitate retention of the conscripts. The COIE findings are focused on putting a total stop to Isayas’s taking his frustration out on the conscripts and the Eritrean people.

    • Dear T.T.,
      It is a fact that the regime in Asmara will try to exploit the last development at the Ethio-Eritrean borders, in order to divert the attention of the world community from the accusation by the CoI that it is responsible for crimes against humanity. It must be proved beyond reasonable doubt that the conflict was the result of a pursuit to shoot and kill Eritrean conscripts who were trying to escape into Ethiopia, so that the regime cannot make accusations that it is in a constant danger from Ethiopia, and therefore it is forced to maintain long-term military service.

      The last trend of pushing things to the extreme, to the point of causing a conflict between the two armies, because Eritreans tried to cross the border, which they had been doing over the last fifteen years, is worrying, and it creates an unpredictable and dangerous situation. What is going to happen in the future as long as Eritreans are forced to do the same thing again?

      Could this also be a misinterpretation of the last agreement with the EU to control refugees leaving Eritrea? What would have happened if they were escaping into Sudan? Would the regime have reacted in the same way by using excessive force? It seems that we are facing a new situation, where things are getting out of control?

      • T..T.

        Dear Horizon,

        Isayas is unpredictable person. No body knows why he jails or fires clean people and why he appoints people who are accused of corruption in their places. He is a strong believer in “might is right.” He also loves power, that’s why he gambles in decision making. In the stock market, we see some people going against the trend and that most of the time works for them in that when people are buying they are seen selling – because they are not scared of consequences of their decisions. Similarly, since Isayas is an adventurist he is not scared to be the mastermind of any that benefits him and because he is so he is every day into surprising changes of policies or damaging political decisions. Therefore, people can expect any from Isayas. No law, no constitution, no agenda, no plan or no any thing with Isayas.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear T.T,
          and yes no contract of any sort. Lol. I am wondering what the feeling of PFDJ ex – members are feeling. በናና ረጊጸን .

  • AMAN

    Greetings
    Dear Awates
    According to the information I have got from Sebhat Nega
    the woyane is starting to hide in the skirts of western women.
    It is asking full cover on to hide itself from being exposed to
    the world and world media corps.
    Ethiopian and Eritrean peoples are burying the decayed woyane
    and its administration in the region for new future !
    Awet N Hafash !