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Isaias Resumes Pligrimage To Qatar

After his last trip to Qatar in April 2013, the Eritrean president, Isaias Afwerki, arrived today in Doha, Qatar.

Since his visit last year, a follow up trip had been postponed three times by the Qataris.

Unlike other heads of states, Isaias was not received at the airport by the Emir of Qatar but by the Minister of Municipality and Urban Planning.

On February of 2013, a few weeks after the Forto incident that challenged his regime, Isaias received a Qatari envoy for talks regarding the Djibouti-Eritrean border which Qatar has been mediating to resolve the crisis without success since the secret agreement was signed on June 2, 2010.

In March 2013, a Qatari envoy met Isaias to talk about the stalled Qatari proposal to fund and build a joint Eritrean-Djiboutian trading zone. Qatar had offered to finance (funding: $150 million) the project which was planned to be executed in the disputed area of Dumera. Qatar had lined up European construction companies to execute the project.

Isaias had insisted that the funds be entrusted to the PFDJ to execute the construction project through companies that his ruling party owns, and that Segen construction company should oversee the project.

The Qataris rejected Isaias’ proposal and the project was put on hold. Meanwhile, Djibouti had threatened that it would give up on the stalled Qatari negotiation and take its border dispute issue straight to the UN, a plan averted by France which doesn’t want to bring the issue of Djibouti into the limelight for domestic reasons.

Meanwhile, last month, a senior Egyptian intelligence team visited Eritrea and inspected the camps of the armed Ethiopian opposition. The Egyptians talked with the Eritrean regime about their intentions to offer satellite media access to the Ethiopian opposition. They also talked about attempts to get Sudan to agree to facilitate transportation for arms and logistics destined to the Ethiopian opposition. Egypt telegraphed its plans to support the Ethiopian opposition in Eritrea; however, Sudan has adamantly refused to cooperate or get involved in the Egyptian project.

Egypt has devised a strategy to exert pressure on Ethiopia through the Isaias regime until it reaches an agreement over the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) that Ethiopia is building on the Nile River.

Another significant issue is the rift between Qatar’s and Eritrea’s position regarding the current Egyptian regime. Qatar has been on the forefront discrediting the regime that was formed by General Sisi after overthrowing Morsi’s government. Qatar’s staunch position against the Egyptian government has put it at loggerheads with its immediate neighbors: Saudi Arabia and UAE, two countries that are fiercely supporting the Egyptian government. Isaias has cozied up to the Egyptian government, putting a strain on his relations with his former benefactors, the Qataris.

Isaias’ didn’t attend the coronation ceremony of the current Emir, Sheik Temim, who was handed power by his father, Shiek Hamad, who was a close friend of Isaias Afwerki.

Related reading:

http://awate.com/eritrea-djibouti-mediation-agreement-3/

http://awate.com/djibouti-and-isaias-afwerkis-secret-visit-to-qatar/

http://awate.com/eritrean-strongman-asks-qatar-to-mediate-dispute-with-ethiopia/

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  • Ermias

    Nitricc has again created another double – fantasies galore. Where have I been? This is a classic psychopathic person. Clue is ‘really curious and unfounded strong aversion to Tigrayans and infatuation with PIA.’ All his characters exhibit this behavior. Nitricc, S Michael, Araya, and now fantasies galore.

  • S Michael

    Dawit,
    Do you believe PFDJ/PIA is that much ignorant to be used as a kleenex/napkin?
    As an Eritean though-if you are one,would not you make any Alliance for the sake of defending Eritrea by any means possible when necessary?I mean the weyanes outsmarted us by hiring every mercenary available,including the Old Soviet Military Might during the 1999-2000 war.
    I do not underastand you guys at all when it comes to Eritrean Security and National Interest.PIA will be gone for good if that is the reason but to kneel down to the weyanes that we breast-fed and baby-seated????

  • Horizon

    There will be a series of dams on the Blue Nile. I think that is what the government said. Some of the dams will have dual functions; electricity production and irrigation farming. Nevertheless,
    one must know that there is not a large stretch of land suitable for farming, in this area due to deep gorges and rugged mountains, unlike the Omo valley. Therefore, irrigation farming will be more
    or less limited.

    It is a pity the Egyptian Media has gone as far as saying that the GRD will trigger an earthquake, which will put in danger the Kaaba in Mecca. This is a cheap shot by the Egyptian media in order to
    exploit the religious sentiment of Muslim. This is equivalent to insulting the intelligence of Muslims and disrespect to their religion. The GRD is far from the faults that could trigger earthquakes in Ethiopia, which pass mainly through the rift valley. Earthquakes could happen from faults that underlie the Red Sea, which are much nearer to the temple than a dam causing a tremor from almost more than a thousand km away. This shows the degree to which Egyptian officials have become insincere and irrational.

    Combined border patrolling by Ethiopian and
    Sudanese forces (Amde), if extended to the area of the dam will indeed be a deterring force to an enemy that would try to infiltrate the area. Nevertheless, a force much larger and well equipped should be in place before it is too late.
    Intimidating a sovereign nation with war is equivalent to declaring war, and therefore, Ethiopia must be prepared to defend her sovereignty and her inalienable rights. They came in the nineteenth century, and they are telling Ethiopians that
    they would be coming again unless Ethiopia surrenders her rights. This is a downright
    insult.

  • S Michael

    None of our business. Talk about Nadew Ez destruction and Fenkil operation.

  • Amde

    Wuchu’s exit

    15 years ago, a friend and I were talking and he made the observation that Eritrean politics is about 20 years behind Ethiopia’s. This was in the context of the Badme war, and grew from the observation that one could not find a single Eritrean to say anything critical about Issayas and EPLF, whereas you would find Ethiopians along the continuum of fanatical support to cynical thrill at the comeuppance coming onto the TPLF. The picture one got of the Eritrean response was really more of a cult.

    This was brought to me today with the news that Wuchu was out. EPRDF has done a relatively decent job of transitioning national leadership to a new generation, so much so that the country’s prime minister and president were technocrats that joined the EPRDF way after the a new regime of ex-guerrillas had consolidated power gained through the barrel of the gun. Objectively speaking, that is a great achievement. But, the EPLF ghedli generation appear to be dropping off basically over the next few (I say five) years without a similar transition. Whether individually they outlive the 5 years or not, they will die off as the dominant political group that can harken back to shared hardship as a source of a strong bond. It is not clear who or what will take their place.

    Looking at the expected life expectancy of ex-guerilla leaders in their 60s-70s, it is perhaps better to focus more on the post-Issayas Eritrea, and let biology take care of the “democratic coup”.

    amde

    • haile

      Selamat Amde,

      I was thinking of the bond, but you what they say “don’t throw your money on water”… I’ll wait till the grid is laid out :-)

      The point you’re making above is like comparing apples and oranges. Ethiopian’s understanding of nation state is not the same as that of Eritrean. Eritreans still have to go a long way in growing to know what it means to have a country rather than fight for/in a country. Take PFDJ supporters for example, they have 0 understanding of a nation state and are openly cheering the strangulation and total decimation of Eritrea. Many in the opposition are still learning the ropes. A quick reminder of the recent history shows you from 1991-1997 we were staggering and stumbling to make a country. Eritreans desire to sacrifice for their newly found baby country that they immensely fell in love with meant that they paid all the way through a huge border war that they literally were able to get out in strong shape despite its magnitude. Sadly, after the G-15 requested for a convening of a conference to discuss the conduct of the war, IA balked. Almost 14 years from that date, everything has regressed to pre-1960 levels, the barbarity that is placed on the people have many relapse and consider the previous occupations far better by comparison. For the first time after independence, to date, Eritreans completely banned to do ANYTHING in the country without stringent approval procedure and gross distraction of moral. Very few, if any, youth inside would want anything to do with the country. And you’re very much aware of the reality of Eritreans worldwide, dead and alive.

      what this show you is that the little gain Eritreans managed from 91/97 was not only lost but the manner they were (and continue) to be attacked is massively frightening that many are even rejecting the very notion of independence. The after effect might continue with total loss of collective allegiance after the fall of the regime and might give rise to some years chaos and insecurity. But eventually, I believe we will come out of it and start back on the right course. So, we are not just 20 years behind but we have a different trajectory that is of the track for now (and has been for the last 14 years). Hence, the timer is not working in our case and can’t be compared realistically before IA is removed and his supporters neutralized.

      Please read the following intercepted SMS discussion between a YPFDJ (Sembetey) and a certain pen name “Free Eritrea” and see the kind of evil the good people of Eritrea are exposed to by the regime and its supporters. Do you think Sembetey know what a nation state is?

      Regards

      • Amde

        Hi Haile,

        Just a couple of quick points.

        It seems to me that in your diagnosis of the current situation, you and YG are at the same point. He has made it a point a few times, that the goal of Eritreans at this point should not really be democratization or questions of power-sharing etc, but simply having a normal life.

        Your attached SMS was shocking, but perhaps not unexpected. I have to say it amazes me how much of a cult the YPFDJ is. One would think that young people living in the west with access to information, and on top of that with opportunity to personally visit and make their personal assessments cannot rationally continue to be staunch defenders of the regime. There is something else going on here – somehow at a formative critical age they have been indoctrinated/brainwashed. I would consider that child abuse honestly. It goes without saying that at some point the YPFDJ become the brown-shirts as they become adults, but it might be instructive to learn from ex-PFDJ that dropped out (wonder what the attrition rate is) why they did and if those reasons could be replicated to break the cult.

        I found this quote within Wikipedia’s article on cults (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult#Psychological_dynamics_of_cult_joiners)

        “Former Mujaheddin member and now author and academic Dr. Masoud Banisadr stated in a May 2005 speech in Spain :

        If you ask me: are all cults a terrorist organisation? My answer is no as there are many peaceful cults at present around the world and in the history of mankind. But if you ask me are all terrorist
        organisations, some sort of cult? my answer is yes. Even if they start as ordinary modern political party or organisation, to prepare and force their members to act without asking any moral question and act selflessly for the cause of the group and ignore all the ethical, cultural, moral or religious code of the society and humanity, those organisations have to change into a cult. Therefore to understand an extremist or a terrorist organisation one has to learn about a Cult.[104]”

        amde

  • haile

    Mahdere – ya watch your filthy mouth (I haven’t got a clue what you said but I trust the moderator than a random motormouth hgdef.

    About Puppet [I will get back at the regional power], what do you know about it? What kind of Gov. is ruling you now? Can you vote? Can you invest? can you work and live? can you travel? can you build? can you import/export? can you handle hard currency? can you get retirement pension? can you be brought before court? can you study at recognized university? can you walk the street without permit? can you ask what the budget of your country look like? In that God forsaken land of a cruel dictator. Don’t you think any puppet (I mean real four legged puppet) would have it a million times better than your day dream sense of having the world as your Oyster.

    Again, what do you know about regional power? That is something you get to when you work instead of lie day in day out like the useless brainless heartless and spineless hgdef. Hgdef’s Eritrea (Not ours at this time) is the tail end of the least in the region or the world. Somalia will soon be a regional power compared to the sorry azzed dictator’s Eritrea unless we push him out soon.

    Anyway, why do you care about Eritrea? by virtue of supporting the regime, you are a NOBODY and you DON’T MATTER. Because the dictator doesn’t think of a rat’s behind of you all. Look at Sophia’s essay on Dr Andebrhan. She was yapping on what he is doing now by using what he said before, which is the same as what she is saying now! Confused? IA is good at rearing piglets…

  • Amde

    the name is Bond… GERD Bond….

    So, which Eritrean sister or brother is willing to invest in the Renaissance Dam? This will most likely give you a return on your investment, as opposed to the many PFDJ bonds.

    It is also a fantastic investment in Eritrea’s peaceful future – Eritreans won’t any longer be mercenaries muscle for Egyptian strategic interest. ye correntiwuma neger ayinessa..:-)

    I found this interview quite interesting… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJGwBF28dg#t=2337 (it’s long) but it is an interview of an Egyptian civil engineer about the dam. I learned many things from just this interview.

    a) He re-iterates from the technical point of view that the Ethiopian dam by itself will not hurt Egypt’s supply of water, and if done right may actually increase the whole supply.

    b) The dam can only be used for electricity and that’s it. It is being built not only on a deep ravine/gorge, but it is also physically far and at significantly lower elevation from the closest Ethiopian irrigable/arable area, so it will simply be uneconomical to pump water out of the dam to where it could feasibly be used for irrigation.

    c) But he says the main risk to Egypt is the increased irrigation in Sudan. The GERD makes it completely feasible and quite likely. He says that Sudan used to have synchronized flooding and drought from the Abbay and the Tekkeze, (makes sense), but for the first time ever, due to the Tekkeze dam now brought on line, Sudan witnessed a significant difference in the water control between Tekkeze and Abbay. Control of the flooding and water regulation effectively increases their agricultural output – if you have more or less uniform water flow all year, you can plant all year. On top of that of course there is the electricity, reduction of siltation on Sudanese dams etc…That is why Sudan is so excited and committed to the dam. Egypt also knows this, but it seems it is a case of “ahiyawun ferto dawilawun”

    d) The questions, demeanour and attitude of the host was a painful reflection of the visceral fear the Egyptian street has about this issue, even when contradicted by the professional armed with facts. She cannot believe why Sudan is behaving this way. She got a minister to call in, and the theory he brought forward was that it was because Ethiopia is now powerful in the horn and effectively forced Sudan to submit.

    e) She brought up the military option, and you can see the professor cringe and state that the relationship between Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia was important for managing the whole Nile basin effectively. He mentioned that for over 150 years, it has been the policy of the Muhammad Ali (not the boxer) and his family to pursue the logic of controlling the Nile flow at higher elevations upstream from Egypt. Without saying so explicitly, he is stating the GERD is within a fine Egyptian tradition.

    (I guess now that you have the “executive summary” you can thank me for the 45 minutes I saved you – you’re welcome)

    This is one project I applaud Melles for doing. I feel it really could be transformative for the horn and usher in a new period of peace.

    amde

    • Abinet

      Amde, thanks for the summary . Let’s hope everyone benefits from it .( including Eritrea with or without IA. It is indeed a big deal.

    • Kim Hanna

      amde,
      The “executive summary” is appreciated. Thank you.
      I hope over there in Egypt, the reasonable people have the upper hand. Sometimes politics has a way of turning good into bad and bad into good, you never know.
      As to what you said about the GERD, it is spot on. It will be transformative to the good.
      KH

    • S Michael

      Good summary indeed. There is no single doubt about the positive role of the GERD for the whole Horn of Africa.
      But for God’s sake, why are you putting the cart before the horse ?Why don’t we just wait until the Dam is done for good? PIA clearly elaborated Eritrea’s stand on the Nile issue besides making things crystal clear 8yrs ago per Haile’s Clip.
      But due to Ethiopia’s belligerence, PIA/Eritrea has a legitimate right to be concerned about this belligerence and Eritrea should use any opportunity to defend herself but not necessarily the current Ethio-Egyptian stand off which seems to be only a political rhetoric as the GERD is fully backed by the EU/Italy mainly, China, the USA and Israel.
      For the sake of justice, I think the only solution is to compromise and give Peace a chance. But playing cards by ignoring the bigger picture and to follow the Rule of Jungle so as to appease the ” Regional power”, has been and will be a major obstacle for any peaceful co-existence.

    • Horizon

      One can easily see the great difference in the viewpoints between the government’s mouthpieces (the TV presenter and the government official who spoke on telephone), who see the glass completely empty, and that of the Egyptian scientist (civil engineer) who sees the glass half-full, as much as the GRD is concerned.

      This is the first time I was convinced that the problem of Egypt does not rest in the decreased amount of water that
      would reach Egypt, but on the geopolitical significance Ethiopia would achieve as she becomes a political, economic and power hub in the horn. In human history, we have known that nations rise and fall, and this is the age when Ethiopia is rising and Egypt as regional power is falling, mainly due to its internal controversies.This has rung an alarm bell in the Egyptian camp.

      In few words, the Egyptian scientist said that Egypt has nothing to fear, and she has a lot to gain; the amount of water in the Nile might even increase, flow will be regulated, and Egypt could buy cheap electricity. In addition, Ethiopia has gone the extra mile to build the dam in an area not fit for irrigation farming, in a deep gorge and near the border with Sudan, and therefore, Ethiopia would be using the dam for power production only. After that, the waters of the river
      will continue downstream.

      Sudan is the big beneficiary for four main reasons: there will be no more flooding, she will irrigate more land, there
      will be less silting of Sudanese dams and on top of these, cheap electricity will be available for Sudan. If there is going to be any decrease in water flow in the future, it will be due to increased irrigation farming in Sudan and not in Ethiopia. Sudanese politicians have understood too well that the GRD is a blessing to Sudan and they are supporting it full heartedly.

      On the contrary, Egyptian politicians have reverted to lies, denials, intimidation, and lately they are running from
      one capital city to the other, to stop fundings and technical support for the Ethiopian dam. It seems that nobody is taking them seriously, and the best Italy could afford was to tell them to negotiate. We hear that they have drawn their pan-Arab solidarity card, by asking the Saudis not to invest in Ethiopia anymore and withdraw their investments. Fortunately, the remaining traditional enemies of Ethiopia (H.A), i.e. Iraq, Syria and Libya have their hands full of their own problems, and they are not in the position to be part of the encircling and weakening of Ethiopia by Arab nations. This calls for African upper Nile Basin countries to forge a front to protect their God-given right on the Nile, they have been robbed by Egypt. As much as Ethiopians are concerned, fortunately, this is the first time Ethiopians have ever become hadi libe and hadi hizbi, and I am sure that at last, Ethiopia will be vindicated. In addition, we count on the good will of the brotherly Eritrean people.

      • Dawit

        Amde ,

        Great Summary. The construction of the Dam seems to have caused more rift between Sudan and Egypt than Egypt and Ethiopia. In the interview, the expert has spent more time on the effect of the expansion of irrigation in Sudan on Egypt, than the effect of the Renaissance’s Dam on Egypt . Another thing is that the guest argues that pumping water from the Renaissance Dam is difficult due to the geographical location of the Dam. Here, I don’t understand whether he meant it is technically impossible to pump water out of the Dam for irrigation or whether he meant it is cost-prohibitive to pump water. Even though pumping may not be cost effective, and can be technically challenging, Ethiopia is, in my opinion, still potentially able to construct other small Dams for irrigation purposes along the Nile river, for example somewhere in the vicinity of the “Tana Haiq”, thereby affecting the downstream volume of the water.

        Though the construction and operation of the Reinsurance Dam might affect the ecosystem of the wetlands of the area, and possibly the Kaaba in Mecca (Saudi Arabia :-) , Hydroelectric power is said to be environmentally friendly way of generating electricity.

        What is Eritrea’s role in the scheme of the things. Egypt may try to exploit the so called “no war no peace” situation. It may use Eritrea like Kleenex, or a Napkin as it seeks to disrupt the completion of the Dam . It is easy to dupe Issayas if Egypt knows his strong and weak personalities.

      • Amde

        Hi Horizon,

        Speaking of Sudan, there was a recent announcement of a joint border patrol force agreed to between Ethiopia and Sudan. There were many that said that this was about keeping off Ethopian farmers from encroaching on Sudanese land (which as you know EPRDF is being accused of recently giving away for nothing).

        In the context of the dam, I see this force as an additional security layer by both countries to the project. This is on top of denying Egypt access to territory to be used to attack Ethiopia.

        Tells you a lot.

        amde

  • General Wuchu

    So haile writes openly about his strange fantasies and fetishes but when he gets called out on them, he pouts :(

  • Amanuel9

    Abu Selah (SAAY),

    Very interesting recap of your argument (your response to Amde). In a prosecutorial style you gave us, I think a “closing argument” or in a debate format a “summary argument”, easy for the jury to go for a deliberation and come with a verdict. No matter I disagree on some of your take and prescriptions, let me say clearly this: “Abu Saleh stay tall” with your provocative mind to enlighten and sharpen the minds of Eritreans. Now it is up to the opposite side to give us if not a closing argument a summary of the their argument. Don’t forget you are also “Kelassay.” At one point anything has to have an end.

    A side note: I use to have a photographic memory. I lost it completely, may be of the unescapable aging. I don’t know how I miss Eyobay’s remark after his recent visit. But his remark is right on.Yes indeed Eyob is right that “life is short to be mired with history.” With that I hope our short life should be devoted to shape the future of our young generation.

    regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • haile

    Why do you keep changing nicks? There is only one person who is uncultured, sexually deviant worded, obsessed with key words, low IQ, naturally challenged visual symmetry, been to more more African countries in their life from childhood and know a jackal about Eritrea, Subordination, Crap, Idiot, bending to woyane, and other disgusting and unbecoming of their gender mouth. See why we think dhurat are having a field day…just count your days, I bet yourself is telling you something and propelling you to say haile haile…wash that dirty mouth of yours for now..

    • haile

      Just to add…the blood of not only the 19000 but also all the the once you sold to Bedouins in Sinai are in your head. No amount of crossing the Atlantic and learning cheap street slangs would help you. Fix your one eye if you wish…go to church

      • Eyob Medhane

        Haile,

        May I crack a little advice? Why do you keep going back and forth in a conversation you know that you don’t get anything out of? By doing so you are wasting you wit and many good things you have to say. Practice the art of ignoring. It’s effective… :-)

        • haile

          Eyob, Thanks. Will heed your timely advice. (but trust me, this one is a desperate punch bag :-) )

          • S Michael

            Hailat,
            It sounds like you are exempted from Federal Tax.The AT/the moderator is doing some favoritism here or Nepotism ,if I may call it so, for letting you to use offensive or even “filthy” language.
            You are also crossing the Red Line too.
            I am confused here Hailat–as you are flip-flopping in my opinion based on what you are saying.
            Basically you are telling us that PIA is fully responsible for the death of 19K Warsays and the Sinai Desert victims plus the 80K plus direct victims of the Weyanes /Tigreans.Did I get it right?If so, I will fight you with my two hands wherever you might be and whenever–and under any circumstance, LOL!!!!l!!!
            Come back to your senses and try to balance things. Your debaters might have gone to the extreme but you have gone beyond the extreme line.
            Opposing the regime is one thing but crediting the enemy is something else.I believe the reaction of the debaters is emanating from your unbalanced extremism/reaction.
            Hope you are just playing politics.

          • haile

            S Michael,

            Be fair…. I know this person and their reaction is to do with the way their soul is twisted. I don’t actually make points that I am not prepared to debate fully. But this individual here will have a peculiar way of debating with me and that is why it always gets whacked with firm hands.

            As far as the responsibility of IA is concerned, his refusal to surrender power to the Eritrean people and all of the crimes he is perpetuating to extend his days in power makes him responsible for ALL deaths and distractions. Sorry, I don’t blame the victims, that is crossing the red line in my book. IA is forcing himself on the people by the barrel of a gun, he is edging to ignite a civil war and engage in a war with Eritreans. That is his choice, but he still has to get out. Filth belong to the PFDJ cadre above, when I referred to their “one eye” that is literally speaking because I have a fair idea of this individual. Theirs was a “filth” and you are defending a filthy mouthed PFDJ here against the voice of justice and truth. That is far from fair tsk tsk tsk…

  • Eyob Medhane

    Haile, Ere Haile..Where are you?

    You and I are becoming “Chop it” friends, right?

    It looks like Ethiopia has given the first warning shot to Isayas today at the meeting with the EU ambassadors. Here is an excerpt of 1min and 4 seconds from today’s news. ምከረው ምከረው እምቢ ካለ መከራ ይምከረው…

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2199299

    I like the way Hailemariam decided to slide in the warning in such a random manner… :-)

    Sal,

    Please feel free to chime in… :-)

    • haile

      Hey Eyob,

      Ya I am liking chop it, what a nice tool to use for IA interviews:-) the “halafinet yetemolaw Ermja” is fine. In fact I hope that the Eritrean people do this “halafinet yetemolaw Ermija” sooner than later. PFDJ supporters are increasingly cornered having to sing kumbaya after a dead beat bushman turned dictator. Only yesterday the ERiTV editorial was screaming about the dictator’s diplomatic fineness and today the EU get together with the regional power house to choose a fitting leash for the dog. tsk tsk… I’ll chop that ERiTV editorial later…

      • mahder

        [ Moderator: mahder, watch your language. Don't use filthy words here]

        Haile,
        R u telling us,Eritreans, that we should kneel down to the “Regional Power” with the help of the EU and give up our Sovereignty and to have a Puppet Gov rule us?
        Is this an AIGA Forum or Awate Forum? xxxxxxx your enemy’s xxx is NOT an Erittrean culture under any circumstance.
        Good luck to you with your mamma etiopia.

    • saay7

      Selamat Eyob:

      Don’t invite me to chime in to your little chop party:) Erre y’he sewye chime abezaw iyalu eko new our dear ambabiwoch:) Besides you probably are not going to like what I will say, but what the hell, you invited me:

      The thing with Ethiopian Prime Ministers’ meeting with EU is, um, it is what they said to one another BEFORE their meeting that is more telling than what they say AT the meeting. You know, that “briefing on background” thing…so, its not like Kubur Teqlay Ministeru said what he said spontaneously: there were “consultations” of what should be said before hand because the handlers, I mean the EU mission, don’t like surprises.

      I am now going to put my helmet so you can throw your talalaq dngayyoch:)))

      saay

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal

        Ok here comes the dingay watch out :-)

        I think you’re right on the background meeting and consultation, but handlers? Come on. Who do you think our Prime minister is? Isayas and his Arab Egyptian and other assorted Arab handlers? Tsk tsk tsk….

      • Dawit

        Sal,

        You say Tillaliq dingayoch not Tiliq Dingayoch. I wonder why Eyob made no comment about that terrible chopping. He would have called you “dingay ras”.

        Anyways, thanks for allowing me to chime in with my opinion into your chop-chop party.

    • Horizon

      One can draw two conclusions: first, a
      warning to DIA by PMHMD not to play with fire by trying to exploit the Ethio-Egyptian standoff
      on the Nile, and second, the EU is convinced that DIA must go and they are
      telling Ethiopia to play a more active role.

      • S Michael

        So the EU is against JUSTICE then? How do you rule out the possibility that they also might have advised him to respect the International Law? Did you forget that the EU was in Asmara before they went to Addis?
        As to ” playing with fire by siding with Egypt thing”,Egypt does not need PIA/Eritrea to respect her National Interest.
        But if you are occupying a sovereign country’s territory and threatening the very existence of that country simply because you a ” regional power”, then you better prepare for any eventuality.

        • Horizon

          People are much more important, that is what the EU is saying, without of course forgetting the fact that both governments should sit together and solve the border issue.
          We have discussed the issue of Badme so many times, and the Eritrean people have come to understand that a Barren piece of land cannot keep them hostage or decide the fate of 99.99% of the remaining Eritrean land. Can DIA guarantee that peace, freedom, normalcy, and demobilization of the military would follow if you are given Badme? No doubt, he will not.

          DIA needs the genie called Badme to remain outside the bottle; and so does Ethiopian, each for their own interest, DIA to continue his dictatorial rule, and the Ethiopian government, to bring the
          regime in Asmara to its knees. DIA, the PFDJ and its supporters, need Badme to satisfy their ego. If they are given back, they would say, look we have
          defeated the enemy; the Eritrean god is invincible and you should revere the big brother eternally; but you will continue to remain under his dictatorial
          rule, because there is nothing better for Eritrea right now, and much more, we cannot trust libi Tigray.

          Eris have come to understand that Badme is simply a means to an unholy end, which is enslavement of the people and longevity of the dictatorship. Be sure, Badme will go nowhere. Save first the people so that they can live on the land.

          • S Michael

            Horizon,
            I completely understand and I am one of those majority Eritreans who realized that fact- from the beginning.
            But I disagree with you about your specualtion and judgement or putting the cart before the horse.
            We all know the tactics of the PFDJ but at the same time we also fully understand the weyane agenda and their preconditions..I am not an International Law expert nor a politician but I know that 2+2=4.
            Just a hint,Eritrea is fully and severely sanctioned to the extent of not being allowed to buy spare parts for the Air Force—–the enemy has repeatedly threatened to over-run Asmara at any time and besides provoking Eritrea militarily many times for whatever reason…—
            Do you have any clue about the weyane preconditions? Or what they mean by ” In principle”?
            As much as you believe that PFDJ/PIA is using Badume carte as an existential tactic,you should also believe that the weyanes are using it for a special purpose.
            If you are that much naive,which you are NOT,here is what an American Diplomat said,which we all along speculated about.
            1-Use of Aseb and Massawa ports unlimitedly–which we allowed them even for free before but now they are asking for some special treatment
            2-Hand over of the Ethiopian Opposition–DEMHIT—etc—and give up any support to any Ethiopian Opposition–
            3-consider and apply International Law,not colonial borders during demarcation,which is very tricky and misleading approach.
            Numbers 1 and 2 are fine as long as they were done reciprocally/mutually by both sides.
            but there is a very important piece that we do not know about by both sides–besides the trust issue.
            Plus,don’t we know about the hidden agenda of the Weyanes eventhough it might be fading away?
            Be that or this,as Eritreans,I think we can handle our problems by ourselves,which we are lagging behind.The weyanes are interferring non-stop to keep us divided and we should be able to overcome that and get united and challenge the regime.—-as simple as that.Our enemies understand very well how much strong Eritreans are when united and that is their number ONE agenda–i.e., to keep us divided,which in turn helps the PFDJ to stay in power and stronger.
            Amde partially might be right when he said that the weyanes would rather prefer the Highlanders and PIA (but weak PIA thouigh), to stay in power rather than the unkown taking over.It has worked for them and that is why they were scared during Forto Operation–eventhough some speculate that the childish Forte Operation was engineered by weyanes along with some help of Middle East Countries.
            But Amde also should be aware that the weyanes declared as a final option to destroy the Kebessa people as they are the ones holding PIA stronger.

          • Horizon

            S Michael,
            The main problem of Ethiopia and Eritrea is not arms race but poverty. Two poor countries that cannot feed their people, cannot afford to spend their meager economy on buying sophisticated arms to kill each other. Ethiopians and Eritreans should correct the factors that have brought this antagonism and animosity, if they really want to bring peace and prosperity to their people. What is the use if the income from Eritrea’s gold mines or Ethiopia’s coffee exports is going to be wasted in buying weapons of destruction, and the money does not go for development? Here is a good example why we remain so poor. For Ethiopia and Eritrea, war is nothing else but madness. Both people should rein their bravado and foolishness, and concentrate on the well-being of their people.

            Be sure, the enemy of Eritrea is not from outside. It is within Eritrea itself, in its own society. It is called poverty, absence of freedom and normalcy, family fragmentation, absence of formal
            education and hope for the future. This is a time bomb. Eritrean patience and resilience has its limits, and it is up to the Eritrean government not to push it to its limits. If it breaks, then God help us all, for we do not know what will be the consequences. I do not know if you have already heard that the Eritrean regime is again accused for a proxy war in South Sudan, and some are entertaining for more sanctions

            I have said many times that Badme is used by both governments. The difference is that the Ethiopian government and its people can afford to wait and see, while unfortunately, the people of Eritrea have reached their limits, and they need peace and normalcy asap. We should understand
            this fact. Sometimes we are forced to smile to people whom we hate, and even accept negotiations for the sake of the good of the people, putting aside our egoistic self. Some politicians are good at it. We should look for peace, even if we do not like the other partner in the peace deal, because right now it serves our best interest. It is immaterial if one likes or hates woyanes, because they are part of the whole, the Ethiopian people, and it is better not to see the tree and forget about the forest. I do not think that power will monopolistically continue to lie with woyanes for long, and you should have the whole nation in mind, rather than just part of it.

            Some day we must learn to measure our strength not in our armed forces, how much gallant fighters we are, or how much hardship we can withstand, but with how sane, rational and practical people we
            are. We have had enough of wars and destructions, and let us start thinking of peace, prosperity and a happy future for Ethiopians and Eritreans. It is poverty and misery that divide people, and not peace and prosperity.

            As much as I am concerned, ethnic federalism
            in Ethiopia is both a curse and a blessing. Fortunately, one can say that the curse has not happened; Ethiopia is still intact and she has not disintegrated. As much as the blessing is concerned, although not perfect, ethnic federalism
            is like a candy given to a child. Try to take away a candy from a child, he will fight tooth and nail to keep it. Similarly, no Ethiopian ethnic group will
            give back to woyane its self-rule, even if it is not perfect. Therefore, future Ethiopia is much more for a broader government than one hegemonic ethnic group ruling over others.

            The way of Ethio-Eritrean rapprochement still
            remains as narrow as the eye of a needle, mainly for foolish, egoistic and personal reasons. I hope that this madness will end soon.

          • Hayat Adem

            Horizon,
            Thanks for putting it so lovely. With the above comments of yours, I’m rediscovering my hope that we are not short of enough widom around. The mic is possessed by too many spoilers and breakers and heaters, and not as many chances were given to the solvers and builders and calmer minds.

          • Ermias

            Horizon, very encouraging and hopeful comment. I agree 100% that enough people have died already for the lands of Ethiopia and Eritrea, particularly a toll order for Eritrea. Now, the policies should be rewritten to read ‘no more unnecessary wars and bloodshed. Preserve every human life at all cost, irrespective of what happens to the land.’

            I couldn’t careless where the borders are drawn. If that’s what it will take to stop Eritreans from dying at the hands of every Ethiopian government, then give them access to the sea. All it takes is two good governments with good trade policies and the people will figure out the rest.?

          • Amde

            Well said, Thank you.

          • genie outta the bottle

            Regarding TPLF’s ethnic federalism, the poisonous seed has already been sowed. Ethiopia will disintegrate. It is a matter of time. Once the genie is out of the bottle, you can’t put it back!

  • Rodab

    The RSS feed section is anything but ‘regional’. It filters out any regional news but that of the two Sudans’.

  • Eyob Medhane

    Tazabi,

    See, Sal and many other Eritreans are impressed with this kind of General. I bet they would have written beautiful songs about him had he been a general at the time of Adwa. Please watch (Only 1 min. 45 sec.)

    http://www.diretube.com/egypt-news/egyptian-military-general-offers-ethiopia-three-solutions-to-solve-the-dam-dispute-video_f7477cfc5.html#.Uxd5t_RdVfE

    Sal/Gash Saleh.

    Please help me out. Was that a correct Arabic translation? If it is now the mystery is solved why Egyptians lost to Israelis only in six days. ‘General Stupid’ in the clip must have been a commander then..

    • Saleh Johar

      Lij Eyob,
      He is just like some of your crazy Qey Bahrachin individuals. He is claiming a big chunk of Ethiopia and Uganda. But honestly, you are out of your element discussing the six-day war. :-)

      • Eyob Medhane

        Gash Saleh,

        I am just saying. I don’t think anyone wants this dude, as their general. In fact, if he were a general back then, it’s a miracle than they did not lose the war in 24hours, instead the did hang on for six days. From all options he gave us to choose, I take the first one. I like ‘Mooz’.. :-)

        • Dawit

          looool: Those Moozs will make their way into Eritrea one way or another. They will flood Eritrean markets. Eritrea does not care whether those Moozes come from Egypt or Ityobia; they are all the same flavor, thanks to the blue Nile. Issayas also needs to give Ethiopia three choices from which to choose in order for Ityobia to give up Badume: Fish, Salt, Millet.

    • Horizon

      It is said that from a kid, a drunk and an angry person (and I would like to add a senile ultra right fool like the one in this tube), one would learn a hidden truth, (rather a hidden dream). Sole ownership of the Nile has always been the core center of Egyptian external policy. We all knew that it was to be through occupation and Islamization of Ethiopia and if this is not possible, through destabilization. It is indeed a revelation that Ethiopia and Uganda are already under Egyptian occupation (ownership), at least 30% of their lands. Why he chose the 30% mark, I really do not know. Eris, be careful, they were once on the red sea coast, and they might declare ownership through another demented old clown.

      This dude does not know that Ethiopia is already planting every year billions of trees and still she is threatened by droughts. It seems that he likes bananas, and this could be the reason why he wants to plant 10m bananas.

      Of course, he knows that he is not going to be the one to die at the Ethiopian dam. Nevertheless, Ethiopians should take heed that the propaganda against Ethiopia by Egyptian officials has reached the level of extreme irrationality. Irrational people may try to do irrational
      things, without calculating the consequences especially to themselves and their people.

      • Eyob Medhane

        Horizon,

        I like what Dina Mufti had to say about Egyptians irrational protests just couple of days ago. He said.. “…ይሄ ነገር እንደ ኩፍኝ ካልወጣላቸው በስተቀር obssesion (ኑን) አይተውትም..”

        If you haven’t seen the entire interview, here is the link. It’s long, but it’s a worth watching discussion. Please watch it, when you have some time..

        http://www.ethiopian.tv/discussing-the-diplomatic-offensive-against-ethiopia-yegna-guday/

        • S Michael

          What the hec has dina Mufti has to do here?
          Let’s talk about Eritrea and how to solve our problmes.
          Let Egypt and Ethiopia deal their problems between themselves.if the Obssession is about as to why PIA doing his diplomatic busniess with Egypt,well,who the hec gave you to censor Eitrea’s foreign policy?Why don’t you talk about Eritro-Russian and Sino-Eritrean diplomatic run then?
          If the concern is that Eritrea might back Egypt’s stand on the Nile,well, time will tell.But if the question is as to why Ertra is seeking an Alliance for the sake ofself-defense,then it is none of your business.
          If you invited the whole Soviet Military to crush Ertra and occupy Soveregin Eritrean Territory and threaten Ertra/Eritreans,why wouldn’t we invite and create any Alliance that can serve our National Security and Interest?

  • Tazabi

    Menelik – “… Africa’s most enterprising slave-trade …” – so was the Prophet Mohammed who many consider as the perfect example of conduct. So was George Washington – the father of the greatest democracy on earth. So was Thomas Jefferson – the father of the US constitution.

    As to the victory of Adwa being unimpressive – The whole world was impressed. In Albania and former Yugoslavia the most popular name for little boys of the time was Menelik. Only Eritrean military experts were not impressed – will try harder next time

  • Eyob Medhane

    What up, everybody.. :-)

    Sal

    I undertand Isayas is calling on every Arab on the planet and offering them his ‘services’ to do their dirty job. It looks like this particular Arab named Ahmed Tibe has taken on this offer and in the Israeli Knesset, he took upon himself to antagonize Ethiopia by attacking Ethiopians he found next to him, Ethiopian Jews. He however got burned by this fierce Ethiopian woman. Please watch it. It is kind of funny. It is only 7 minutes. Especially the skit that has been made about it will put some smile on your face. It will lighten you up a bit.. :-)

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2189322

    • S Michael

      Eyob Medhanie is a unique Eritrean name.I feel bad for you for not being your real self.I might be wrong but no need of inferiority complex.
      If you have been begging to death the Old Russians and the old and the new Americans,the old Libyans and the old Yemenis and the old Cubans,the old germans,the Ukranians,the CIAs, the KGBs, the Mossads,etc—-,to do your dirty job and to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans, why would not PIA offer any body to protect and defend Eritrea,Dude?
      “Begging” and offering services is only bad when it comes to protecting Eritrea but it is ok and acceptable to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans.
      Yeah,the AT is against PIOA and for sure they will credit you for saying this and that.But do NOT forget that you are dealing with SAAY,FYI.
      Good luck to you” Eyobay” and to your mamma etiopia.

    • S Michael

      Let me rephrase my response to ” Eyob Medhanie” as the moderator deleted my comment to appease “Eyobay”
      If the weyanes/ethiopians have been calling from Zemen-ennini to date,the new and old Americans; the old Russinas,the new Ukranians,the old Germans, the old Yemenis, the old Cubans,the CIAs, th eKGBs, the Mossads,etc—to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans,why can’t PIA-as a matter of fact,Eritrea and Eritreans,offer our services not only to Arabs on the Planet, but even to the devil, to protect and deened legitmately ourselves?
      Why is it acceptable for the Ethiopians to do so to destroy Eritreans but a taboo for Eritreans to offer services to any body who is willing to help us in any form to protect and defend ourselves?

    • haile

      Selam Eyob

      Thanks for the “chopping” utility. Here is a clear statement from IA when he was apparently itching to go to war with Egypt. This was in1996, translation needed :-) it is in Tigrinya

      http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2193878

      • Eyob Medhane

        Haile,

        You are welcome..I understood the Tigringa fine. (Though it is a ‘task’, especially Isayas’ Tigrigna. He should have been a linguist than a murderer.) I see where calling everyone ‘beggars’ came from. Many Eritreans seem to adopt and duplicate his insulting language and attitude towards the entire world. I’ll tell you what, Haile. If Isayas were a friend of Ethiopia against Egypt, with his kind of thuggish behavior and way of expressing himself, he would still be a liability. The funny thing is in this clip, he was accusing Egypt for blaming Israel for everything, yet for the last 23 years, this denqoro is blaming the entire world for every single stupidity that he is filled with…. Sigh…

        • SMichael

          Eyobay,
          If you are calling this guy denquro for eloquently and clearly stating the facts,then I declare openly that you are the Denquoro of the denquorowoch
          If the AT deletes this comment,I will take the team to the Federal Zhou for discrimination

      • SMichael

        Hailat,
        Now I started loving you for calling a Spade ,a Spade and for being reasonable at times.I wish this clip of PIA’s bald,truthful, to the point,rational and realistic statements go live in the Ethiopian TV.
        Hope Etowah pauses a bit and thinks twice and leave aside his ridicule.
        HAILAT,aren’t you proud of this man,at least for a minute only and only for his truthful statements?
        Please do so or be so.
        This statement by PIA about the Arab/Egypt -Eritrea relationship makes it a crystal clear scenario.BUT,the short sighted Weyanes made us to switch gears for the sake of our National Security.
        Halilat,wouldn’t you do the same thing If you were in PIA ‘ s position?

  • Abinet

    Let’s assume your wish come true . What do you get out of it ? Remember , the best thing for Ethiopia is a stable , prosperous …… Eritrea for the well being of everybody .

    • S Michael

      Abinet,
      Agree but provided that the weyanes/Ethiopians have the same good will and wish but if they keep threatening our existence,well—-we are not going to sit down and embrace what they or you want us to be—No –you have read it wrong.eritrean will never knee down to the invaders except whenthey shoot and pray.

      • Abinet

        I don’t understand why you blame Ethiopia for everything negative that has been happening in Eritrea . We have the same bravery as you claim you have and we have proved it time and again . Let’s not go that way . However, if you misplaced your problem, you will never find a solution . You need to do some house cleaning otherwise it is like fiyel wedih qizimzim wedia .

  • Nitricc

    “woyane would be sitting in asmara calling the shots!!!”
    Hahaha Ezana
    let me say this to you Ezana and the rest of Tigryans
    I hate to do that to you but don’t you understand Weyane has died with Melles Zenawi? I am not kidding. Weyane is dead. So, let’s forget the nonsense that weyane sitting in Asmara calling shots and all that garbage. I am sure, some few cowards and sellouts such as Serray, YG and Hayat will love to see Weyane calling shots in Asmara and beyond but, hey, that is what dreams are for. to tell you the absolute truth is What ever is left in weyane’s dead body as we speak; it will be completely detach and lost forever in the next fake election. This election is the most dangerous one for weyane and Ethiopia. In the past the weyane had the most slick and deceptively smart at the helm, Melles Zenawi. He fooled any one who dealt with him including PIA. If you wannna gauge how slick deceptive Melles was, consider how his party was victories in an election by winning 98.6 % something like that with ridicules numbers. Guess what he pooled it off. Now he is gone, what are left in the weyane circles are uneducated, dumb, greedy, rigid, stiff and ignorant bunches. They will try to do what their dead master has done, but they lack the slickness’ and flexibility that was mastered by Melles. So, let’s wait and see what the next election brings. You might not have the Ethiopia you knew it. So, I urge to postpone your dream sitting in Asmara. Hey, you may be sitting in Asmara but it could be because you are chased away and hunted by the Ethiopians and given an asylum as a political refugee, consider the possibilities. Don’t think you can get away with untold crimes you have committed against the Ethiopians, sooner or latter they are coming to get you. And we, Eritreans are not like you, no problem you can sit in Asmara; we will save you.
    Regarding decimating the Eritrean Army in 15 days, well, again dreams are just dreams. Few coward people like Serray and YG may share your dream but a loser is just a loser. Eritreans not only welling to die for their country but they even died for you to claim to the Minilk palace. So, let’s not forget that. In the mean time the future generetion of Eritrea will never engage you in a conventional warfare anymore. The days of human wave are over. The next time you try that human wave shittt; it will result in to untold catastrophe. Time has changed; technology has evolved and unfortunately the mind of few Tigryans like your self are stuck and frozen in backwardness, inferior complexity and stupidity. Regarding the economy you are bragging about; well, I will believe it when you stopped begging. Once I heard 95 % beggars in Addis Streets are Tigryans. I did not believed it because how could be possible?
    The rulers are Tigryans and the beggars in the street are Tigryans? You tell me Ezana?

    • Araya

      Nitricc; I have nothing to add except; did you know that the Tigryans are building
      houses like crazy in Tigray in anticipation of chose for up and coming so-called election?

      There is a saying in Amharic …
      Be seferut Quna Mesefer Ayqerim.

      P.S I would have answered your last question for Ezana ( Gebre- Anenya) but let me hear what he has to say. What a great question!

    • S michael

      That is scary Nitricc Acid but I am afraid that you might be right,God forbid.

    • ethiopia

      u notice it good how wayane messed it up after meles gone.

    • fantasies galore

      Nitric Acid,
      My main man! Please speak for yourself. I speak for myself and all Eritreans when I say this. Tigrayans are most definitely not welcome in Asmara. Are you kidding me? After all that they have done. The Eritrean people would take matters into their own hands if a Tigrayan shows up in Asmara. They killed 19,000 plus of their precious kids. That is right! 19,000 Warsays. Not to mention how they brutalized Eritreans living in Ethiopia. Don’t get me started. Eritreans will never be fooled by Tigray people again. Let haile have his wet dreams. Hey fantasies are free you know. They say the best things in life are free :)

      • haile

        hahaha….”The Eritrean people would take matters into their own hands if a Tigrayan shows up in Asmara.” You are very funny sunshine boy!!! Well, eat you’re heart out, that is a REALITY, as you speak. http://awate.com/a-mercenary-army-isaias-afwerkis-last-stand/

        “Hey fantasies come almost free @ 2% of your earnings you know. They [the YPFDJ] say the best things in Eritrea are free :)”

        • fantasies galore

          haile,
          19,000 precious Warsays! I know Tigrayans used “Fenj Regachoch” in that war so they really did not sacrifice that much. But Eritreans sacrificed their precious kids. That is why Tigrayans don’t really get the magnitude of what has occurred and the enmity that Weyane created. I live among real Eritreans and I can tell you how Eritreans feel about Tigray people. You don’t wanna know! They were never loved to begin with (Libi Tigray) and all. But now, it is a whole new reality that has been created. Talk to real Eritreans – if you are one that is. You will find out quick what they think of Tigray or Tigrayans. Meanwhile, keep flogging that one-eyed snake you wanker. Go on with your fantasies and wet dreams. Cuz that is all you got and that is all you are going to have.

        • Shabo

          Those might be with a temporary work permit in case–to clean the mines when needed.

      • SMichael

        The DEMHIT militia might be being used as a temporary shield and due to the SMG and sanction issue,there should be a way of hiding the DEMHIT somehow.Just a common sense tactic.

  • Back Burner

    The Egyptian government said the water dam is good for Egypt, so no war. Mr Isaias wish you a safe return just make sure the co pilot is not Ethiopian nationality.

  • hailemariam

    do you even read what is written ? I am not on any extremist view here, besides you enjoying the status quo doesn’t represent ethiopia nor eritrea, only your self for that matter.

    however, enjoying the stus quo makes you a woyane stoodge or a pfdj stoodge. Only woyane and pfdj created the stus quo for their narrow purpose and they are endeed enjoying it.

    Regards

  • S Michael

    Kichew.
    Do you have any idea at all wether or not the TPLF might have a hidden agenda or secret agreement with the Sudan?What if they take away the Dam and annex it with “Abay Tigray”.Why do you think the TPLF gave up a chunk of land to the Sudan?
    The Sudanese Leadership is unpredictable and they go with the flow.
    The International Panel already disclosed that the Dam could actually affect Egypt’s share of water badly.
    I think there should be some midline solution there.

  • SMichael

    Ezana,
    Is this the same Ezana Tzehay of the AIGA?My God,you ran out of options and you are declaring war on us through an Eritrean website?
    What guarantee do you have that Your Weyane might be decimated overnight as well?
    Plus,do not forget that Eritreans can unite more than ever when it comes to any foreign invasion.
    If war starts,God forbid,then it is going to be The War.
    Not only the Egyptians but also the Eritreans,the ONLFs,THE OLF, the DEMHITs,even the Somalis and even the Sudanes will probably join the game.
    The best solution is that you. exit Badme and make peace with Eritreans.

  • Saleh Johar

    Kim,

    Your assertion that ELF/EPLF killed babies, is just hyperbole. It doesn’t have substance.

    I don’t have a partner and never will have a partner who puts down Ethiopians in a racist form. But debating merits and demerits, is all fair game. Man up and put your counter argument instead of crying foul.

    Credibility is shot because a real picture of the Killer Haile Sellasie watering a ganga tree appeared on awate.com? Then be it. Now your credibility as an objective person is shot and mortally wounded.

    The Syndrome you just discovered? We call it “Victim’s Cry.” Go ahead and deny victims to speak about their sufferings. We call it, “Denial Syndrome.”

    If expressing my views (and experiences) about Haile Sellase would earn me a third strike from your highness, go ahead. But three is too little, you will easily county 30,000. And I have offended you taht much in case you didn’t know. Go ahead with your strike.

    Having said that, just to answer you in kind, let’s sober up. Never give ultimatums as if you some sort of authority over people. This forum is providing you a platform to debate with civility. It is a privilege you are enjoying. Do just that or “sholkeh wtta” without fanfare and threats :-) Please don’t give me ultimatum.

    • Amde

      Saleh,

      “Credibility is shot because a real picture of the Killer Haile Sellasie watering a ganga tree appeared on awate.com?” So you did write that piece?

      I just think it was hilarious ‘from “ha” to “zed” ‘ as my mother would put it. Not the piece itself – that was just kinda bizarre leaving one with a wtf? But someone actually thought to spend time to doctor a picture and spend time to put finger to keyboard and come out with that.. well what can one say?

      Was Saay mortified?

      amde

      • Saleh Johar

        Nope, but KIM was obviously referring to it. Even if some of us are mortified by something, at awate.com it stays within the house.

        • Eyob Medhane

          Gash Saleh,

          People are still discussing our jab at each other, which we got over yesterday? Dang, Yodita is mad, kim is threatening to scorn us…and Amde…wait a second. Speaking of Amde, seriously Gash Saleh? Did you do that ‘Haile Selassie and his weed’ crap?That thing was a real real crap. If you had done it, you, Sal and your whole team should be mortified, petrified,stupefied by it. (Taken from the movie ‘The Beautiful Mind’)

          • Saleh Johar

            We do not go beyond the byline. And it is clear there. Honestly though, I am not defending the taste of the image, people can have different tastes and judgements. Some were just honestly expressing their views, but others went crazy hiding what really was irritating them: the image of the “god” of yesteryear rearing a ganga tree. I am equally “mortified, petrified, stupified” by the reaction. The quote is from The Beautiful Mind, but if attribute it to “The Janhoi Nostalgia Mind”, you would hit the target.

            See! You are causing me trouble and I think I have to learn to hate you: You Eyob the xxx xxxxx xxxxx :-)

          • Eyob Medhane

            Gash Saleh,

            You just can’t. It’s impossible to hate me. :-) Actually, I have a project I want to work with you on. More like I may need your help with. It has a lot to do with your horn of Africa speech in Australia. I will email you the details, when the time comes or I’ll swing by California with my tre siga to discuss it over. … ;-)

  • http://batman-news.com wed garza

    Isayas enjoys to play with fire, however, he seems to sit on a burning flame where the uper hand rests on Ethiopia. Every body knows Isayas is an agent of any type be it Egypt or/and..he wants to survive even just ONE day. Thus the button to fire a misile against him is approaching unless he is already in his cave/barrack/ terrace like SAdam Hussin and Ghadafi enjoy his own deeds in dishorored death like a totten rat!!!
    Poor guy born to be dispised, dishonoured, decent and lastly hated and fully isolated.

    • S Michael

      He is not playing with fire but “playing” the play to protect and defend Eritrea by “any means possible”, to use the Weynae words,by the way.

  • selam

    Eritrean-Egypt relations vs. Ethiopia were masterfully handled by PIA and Mubarak for decades. There is no going to be reinventing the well as far as the strategic relations between the two nations. What the new Egyptian leaders need to do is follow Mubaraek’s steps!!They need each other and Eritrea has the right to handle the relations with Egypt in the way it sees it fit! We have a land invaded by Weyanes and Eritrea will use everything at its disposal to defeat the occupying forces…as they say in marshal art, the best weapon is to use your enemy’s weight to your advantage and If PIA leadership uses Ethiopian opposition forces –armed or none armed to weaken the occupying force, then all power to him. That is how you can bring Weyanes to their senses i.e. Weyeney Ebeyeley MetekaEta jebha ketkoneley and now the song is demehetey ebyeley metekata weyen ketkoneley and we all know who is the king maker- the all mighty Wedi-Afom
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2CE09BqjKA

  • saay7

    Hey Nitricc:

    Ethiopia has the right to build a dam anywhere in Ethiopia. Neighboring countries and those affected by the dam can ASK for consideration but beyond that they have no right.

    The solution is not in military sorties but in scientists: a determination from impartial panel on the impact of the dam. Egypt’s position that it is entitled to 100% of what it is getting now is unreasonable.

    Isaias will not stay away: it is a poker game, he is at the table, and he has been dealt cards and he will play them. Badly, of course.

    saay

    • Araya

      Sal, I agree with you. Ethiopia has the right to do whatever it wants with her natural resources. Knowing the Ethiopians, they won’t stand up to Egypt. It is all talk from Ethiopian side. At least the Egyptians should compensate Ethiopia with some kind of financial arrangement. I do agree with nitric; PIA should stay clear. Let him have some popcorn and enjoy the show. Nitric, you will send F-16! lol. You are a trouble maker. The truth is, the Ethiopians can’t even fight the lowly Al-Shebab let alone the Egyptian army. Mark my word the Ethiopians will back down; despite having every right to do so.

    • SMichael

      Salih,
      R U being newly baptized by the Weyane again?
      U know better than most of the agenda of the Weyanes.If this Gang is threatening our existence by any means possible,we’ll we will invite any one who can help us in removing the cancer once and for all as that is what their intention towards us Eritreans and Eritrea.
      Unless u have some sort of negotiation with them.
      Forget PIA as he ,sooner or later, will be gone for good.
      The million question is:R we ready to defend the country after he is gone from these predators?
      I am sure the Weyanes have already targeted Eritrea due to its paranoia from Egypt and it looks like they are going to take a preemptive measure against Eritrea before the Sanctions are removed under the pretext of defending its interest since the AT Team is encouraging them to do so by officially reporting the sensitive issues of the Eritro – Egyptian relationship.
      If the Weyanes invited the whole former Soviet Union Military to destroy Eritrea,why would not we invite any force under the Sun to defend ourselves?

    • Kichew

      Saay7, your analysis lacks some depth….sorry to say

      We (both ethiopia and egypt) know that the dam won’t have any negative effect on downstream countries. If it had any effect, then sudan would’ve been the first one to voice against it. It’s a matter of geopolitics. Ethiopia building this huge dam means, egypts monopoly of the geopolitical scene in the area will change forever and ever. They’re are trying to stop that and I highly doubt that they can do that.

  • ezana

    ezana; well while diregarding all the nonsense what nitricc had to say, there is one point that he brought up that i would agree. that is to settle with eritrea before anything goes with egypt. well as everyone knows now, if ethio settles with eritrea, it would be thru military means and this would be a matter of 15 days max to route issaias and go back to deal with egypt. mark my word, if the issue with egypt is going to be war; issaias will be dealt for good in a matter of days. point blank and simple. woyane would be sitting in asmara calling the shots!!!

    • haile

      ezana

      You’re mistaking Eritreans for PFDJ. Of course, PFDJ would lose any war with Ethiopia now. But any thoughts of calling shots from Asmara for woyane is a non-starter. They know better not to go down that route. But most likely they would have a friendly ally in the north that would cover them in the event of any eventuality. So, the best option would be for woyane to remove one of the reasons that IA uses to elongate his stay in power. Not hard to figure out.

      Regards

  • Nitricc

    I just hope PIA stays out of this Ethio-Egypt show down. I said all along; if I was Egypt, I am sending four F-16 and I am bombing the hell out of that construction site. Having said that the Ethiopians have the right to do what ever they pleased with their god given natural resources, including the water. Although Ethiopian leaders dumb and stupid; however, for the life of me, why can’t they settle the issue with Eritrea and concentrate the big issue; Egypt.
    I am just hoping PIA stays clear on this issue. At the end of the day, we have to live next to the Ethiopians. If it was weyane issue then any involvement is justified but this is an Ethiopian issue and there is a big difference. I don’t believe the Egyptians going to sit back watch the Dam to its completion. If the Israelis can send to Sudan, Khartoum and deep in Syria few F-16; I don’t doubt for a second Egypt will do the same.
    The funny part is the Ethiopians had no intention in building the Dam. The idea came to exist on the heights of Arab Spring. The TPLF were shiiting on their pant when Egypt, Yemen and other surrounding countries were on fire. i.e. Weyane had to come with such idea to shift popular views and to avoid the popular up rising. Once the weyane started collecting money then before they knew it, they were deep in to it and become impossible to retract. Now, I urge and hope PIA stays clear and let the two over populated beggars go at it. Hey may be not a bad idea they to war, it will help them to control their uncontrollable population of each country. So, let them go at it.
    So, here is what I would do if I was Ethiopia.
    Ethiopia settles the issue with Eritrea; meaning get out of Eritrean land and take Eritrea out of the equation on your show down with Egypt. Egypt will give and do anything PIA want just to weaken Ethiopia. I hope the stupid greedy weyane knows this fact.
    Get out of Somalia and concentrate your man power and fire arms.
    Educate, inform and prepare the public the issue with Egypt including the possibility of war.
    If I was Egypt
    I send four F-16 and solve the issue permanently; effectively once for all. The End of the story! There is no way Ethiopia can retaliate. Ethiopian forces are stretched from Somalia to Eritrea. Just drop a few smart once and it is over.

    • Abe

      Nitricc

      I thing this is again one of the lowest and shortsighted analysis of yours.Read history of Ethio/Egyptian conflict first, it is self explanatory.Why would it be any different now? It is crystal clear to the Egyptians.
      FYI, Ethiopia “the seventh largest Economy in Africa”, is doing simply great, I mean like never before,It is building Railways ,Highways,Dams,Sugar factories,Fertilizer factories Textile Factories… etc taboo in Eritrea.
      On the hindsight I prey ur PIA miscalculate AGAIN and dare get involved,that will be the end of Eritrea as we know it.

    • hagerawi

      [Moderator: Hagerawy, pleasewatch you language]

      You xxxxx…the project of abay was planned way back before the arab spring…it make me sad to see Eritreans becoming expert in Ethiopian affairs,,I am Eritrean and i wish to see Abay dam built,,any development in Africa is a development of Africa…so get your facts right…..

    • Selam

      Eritrean-Egypt relations vs. Ethiopia were masterfully handled by PIA and Mubarak for decades. There should be no need to reinvent the wheel as far as the strategic relation between the two nations is concerned. What the new Egyptian leaders need to do is follow Mubaraek’s steps!!Eritrea and Egypt need each other and Eritrea has the right to handle the relations with Egypt in the way it sees it fit! We have a land invaded by Weyanes and Eritrea will use everything at its disposal to defeat the occupying forces…as they say in marshal art, the best weapon is to use your enemy’s weight to your advantage and If PIA uses Ethiopian opposition forces –armed or none armed to weaken the occupying force, then all power to him. That is how you can bring Weyanes and its Eritrean stooges to their senses. With demise of Jebha the song was -Weyeney Ebeyeley MetekaEta Jebha ketkoneley and now the song is changed to Demehetey Ebyeley MeTeKaTa Weyen KeTKoNeLeyJ and we all know who is the king maker then and now no one but the all mighty- Wedi-AfomJ
      Weyanes could spend all their time being diplomatic savvy and what have you- while wedi-Afom does his job on the ground effectively! Pasted below is the link for TPDM’s 13th anniversary. Anniversaries for G7 fighting forces, OLF-D, Arbegnoch, and few more others will follow soon…
      PIA is fighting the weyanes in all fronts be it militarily, diplomatically, propaganda war and despite some hiccups along the way, he never derailed from telling the miserable weyanes that they will never sleep with their two eyes closed while they forcefully occupy Eritrean land. BTW, your creative fabrication piece on PIA begging Beshir of Sudan to reconcile him with Ethiopia falls on its face because it is PMMZ and Hailemariam themselves who admitted that they have asked more 50 mediators to mediate the Ethiopia with Eritrea , so if he declined all those mediation please, why on earth would turn around and beg Beshir? Sometimes you seem to underestimate your readers and elevate yourself to an important personality by presenting yourself as well connected person in the who- is-who- intelligence community in the horn! The truth is on the contrary- you are just desperado armchair cyber worrier with no fulltime time job! BTW, your obsession with Wedi Afom might be emanated from having a crush on him? Just a thought!!

  • Nitricc
  • feven1

    “Egypt has devised a strategy to exert pressure on Ethiopia through the
    Isaias regime until it reaches an agreement over the Grand Ethiopian
    Renaissance Dam (GERD) that Ethiopia is building on the Nile River.”

    well well well, of all the tactical decisions TPLF made, one thing many Ethiopians do not often appreciate is the way TPLF calculated Eritrean independence…But slowly but surely even the most anti-Eritrean-independence ethiopians are beginning to appreciate Eritrea’s departure mainly due to the way things have turned-out at least on socioeconomic front…but of all the advantages, what most people do not often think of is how Eritrea is a better enemy as a nation than it was as destructive insider with no accountability attached….Eritrea can now host as many Ethiopian enemy as it wishes, but it just means it has to “LIVE” with the consequence as a nation….unless what most Ethiopians often say is true “Eritreans hate Ethiopia more than they love Eritrea”

    • hailemariam

      Ethiopians in general and TPLF in particular like to think that they conceded Eritrea’s indipendece, as you mistakingly put it “TPLF calculated Eritrean independence”. It wasn’t a calculation nor a concession that ethiopians bestowed Upon us eritreans, we fought a bloody war for it, with SOME ethiopians really enjoing the massacre of their “brotherly” eritrean people (Ona, wekiduba,Sheib, etc..)
      Having said that, me as an Eritrean, I don’t hate Ethiopia nor the Ethiopian people. It’s a great and ancient nation with which I, as an Eritrean, share history, tradition and culture. Eritreans never hated Ethiopia as you want to put it, Eritreans wanted to be Eritreans, it’s the Ethiopians that didn’t accept that.
      Ethiopians came to Eritrea they tried to convince the Eritrean people that they were ethiopians by any means, first by love and peace, then by deciet and mischief and finally by brute force… We won our indipendence at last. No dear Febu, it’s the Ethiopians that hated Eritreans more than they loved their Mama Ethiopia.
      Comming back to the article I can say you got it wrong again about eritrean people. The Shabia Gang Governament doesn’t represent the view of the Eritreans nor rapresent people’s interest. Infact Shabia is the enemy of both Eritrean People and the Ethiopians. I as an Eritrean fully suport the construction of the Dam and I believe Egypt rights is equal to that of Ethioia in exploiting the nile river. But again you are getting it wrong, I believe you hate eritrea more than you would like to see the dam built.

      • feven1

        “I believe you hate eritrea more than you would like to see the dam built….”
        LOL, it has been more than 2 years since the damn DAM began and there is nothing other than empty bluff your Egyptian masters have done, yet you think just 5 million impoverished souls on top of what the Egyptians already have will make a difference..how do you calculate dude…believe me, for all your ill wishes towards Ethiopia, you had Tekeze just under your nose, but we give you credit for working out Tekeze=Asmara with all it’s inhabitants…

        • ethiopia

          eritreans not only won their Independence but also they brought the anti-ethiopia tplf to addis ababa.

        • hailemariam

          febu i believe you have limited capacity of reading let alone understand what is written. I tod you before I am on mamma IstioBia side on this one, build your dam, you have my full support.

          on the other side you agree we fought a war, be it a proxy for Arabs the Malgasian or Nippo Koreans who wanted to harm you (ohhh poor you…) (btw you can add “ad libitum” who ever was our sponsor the end result is we got at last what we fought for and gave you a bonus on getting ridd of the real wors dictator)… on the other hand, you don’t have any credit on sitting on badme, no big deal we can give it to you for free with Iseyas as a bonus, he is serving the the limited cognitive individuals like you.

          but again i don’t want to fall on the same stupid rethoric all over the internet such as i tell you “go feed you self” and you reply “arab proxy fighter” or (my favorite) “Italian slave”… i think we need to grow up and accept the reality i.e. ethiopia is not Eritrea and Eritrea is not in ethiopia.
          in other words, Febu “let’s make love not war” cit.

      • Abe

        You both are of the extreme end,none represents Ethiopians nor Eritreans?,only ur self..Two wrongs doesn’t make it right.

        Regardless I am enjoying the status quo.

    • S Michael

      Eritreans do NOT hate any one at all.Hsitory has proven it repeatedly .It was the way the Ethiopians,specially the Tigreans treated us that has made us to” HATE” them.
      We forget(eventhough we should NOT have) and we forgave them and we rather right away joined them in all their soco-economic and cultural events and we were also hoping for econmic integration within 15-20yrs post independence as PIA said it.
      The spolier TPLF Junta messed up things due to its short sighted agenda.

  • Eyob Medhane

    Awate Team,

    I see, since awate refurbished itself, it has brought such wonderful commenters like Mussie Gebreab.

    Is Mussie the embodiment of ‘Eritrean temperament’? He seems to be…

    • Guest

      May be he is not good at how to get a girl to like him!

  • Amde

    Who wants to bet on which occurs first?
    OPTION 1: Issayas’ regime ends
    OPTION 2: The dam becomes operational

    • T. Kifle

      OPTION 1

    • Dawit

      Amde,
      You left out :
      OPTION 3: both options (Option 1 and 2) may occur simultaneously,i.e. the regime may come to an end at the same time the dam goes into operation.
      OPTION 4: At the time the Dam goes into operation, the regime would , out of vengeance, perhaps collude with Egypt to sabotage the Dam.
      OPTION 5: Ethiopia may extend an invitation to Issayas to attend at the inauguration of the Dam: This option is possible but highly unlikely. It’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle. It’s likely the prime minister may invite the brutal dictator, but unlikely for the dictator to receive the invitation.

      • Amde

        Dawit,

        I actually think your OPTION 3 is the real intended effect. I see the dam as a political dam. Yes it generates electricity, but the main goal is to break Egypt’s Nile fever, and bring to an end its sense of monopolistic entitlement. If this dam becomes operational Egypt will be forced to realize that its interests are best served by treating Ethiopia as a co-manager of the Nile basin. The minute that happens, Eritrea stops being a strategic spoiler FOR Egypt, it becomes a strategic spoiler AGAINST Egyptian interests. So Issayas’ asset as a spolier of Ethiopia becomes a liability for Egypt. Eritrea’s value to Egypt has a countdown clock – once the dam starts filling it’s over.

        OPTION 5 is then a distinct possibility. Man’s gotta have his ‘lectricity.

        • ethiopia

          am proud u r from addis.

      • OnLooker

        OPTION 6 : The present condition or state of affair will continue to presist, atleast in Eritrea. No immediate change will be noticed in Eritrea, but Ethiopia will make a geopolitical change or adjustment vis-a-vis Egypt and Sudan upon the Dam’s operation.
        Saudi Arabia will feel threatened because it believes that the operation of the dam will mystriously affect their “Kaaba” in mecca, sacred stone of worship. Egypt has also misgivings. What if Eritrea bombs the dam, where will all this water go? Obviously , it could flood Cairo, and Khartoum.
        Positive outcome: Eritreans will be attracted towards the ever growing economic pie of Ethiopia, thanks to the hydro-power which will also result in industrialization, and social and economic change that transforms the eintire region. Eritreans priority would be economy and not politics. Filling theirs and their families stomach will take precedent over politics.

  • Rodab

    Comparison between Shabait & AT approach to PIA vist:

    #1 (only this one matches)
    Shabait:
    President Isaias Afwerki today arrived in Doha city for an official visit.
    AT:
    …the Eritrean president, Isaias Afwerki, arrived today in Doha, Qatar.

    #2
    Shabait:
    On arrival at Doha International Airport, he was accorded warm reception accompanied by salute of the Guard of Honor.
    AT:
    Unlike other heads of states, Isaias was not received at the airport by the Emir of Qatar but by the Minister of Municipality and Urban Planning.

    #3
    Shabait:
    …the two sides held discussion focusing on bilateral ties, relations of partnership and issues of mutual interest.
    AT:
    On February of 2013…Isaias received a Qatari envoy for talks regarding the Djibouti-Eritrean border…

    #4
    Shabait:
    Moreover, President Isaias met Sheikh Abdalla Bin Nasser Bin Khelifa Al-Thani, Chairman of the Qatari Ministerial Assembly and Minister of Internal Affairs, and exchanged views as regards fostering bilateral relations.
    AT:
    In March 2013, a Qatari envoy met Isaias to talk about the stalled Qatari proposal to fund and build a joint Eritrean-Djiboutian trading zone.

    #5
    Shabait:
    The President would hold similar meetings with various Qatari Officials in the course of his stay in the country.
    AT:
    Meanwhile, last month, a senior Egyptian intelligence team visited Eritrea and inspected the camps of the armed Ethiopian opposition.
    Now you all have a two-sided story. You’re welcome.

    • Saleh Johar

      Waw, excellent summary.

  • Eyob Medhane

    “…. Meanwhile, last month, a senior Egyptian intelligence team visited Eritrea and inspected the camps of the armed Ethiopian opposition. The Egyptians talked with the Eritrean regime about their intentions to offer satellite media access to the Ethiopian opposition….”

    So what else is new? Doesn’t that paragraph paraphrase the entire purpose of Gedli, Eritrean Independence and Isayas’ existence ? The good thing is Egyptian craft of destabilizing Ethiopia through Eritrea worked, when they were ‘within’. It will be a whole lot harder now, since they may do their second act from outside.

    • Rodab

      Eyoba,
      Has the controversy over the ‘severed breast’ statue slowed down, in the Ethio world?
      [For readers benefit] The Woyanes, at a cost of millions of dollars, are constructing a staue showing a severed breast sitting on a severed hand in memory of King Menilik’s alleged crimes, and it created a stir among Ethiopians. Dam it! why can’t they use the freaking money for the freaking Nile Dam? They better hurry up and get the damn thing over with because once Egypt cleans its house mess, it will get cocky over the dam. BTW, I am on Auntie Ethio side on this one, just so you can sleep a little better :-)

      • Eyob Medhane

        Rodab,

        Your mid level cadre here. Have you seen the extravagant celebration of Adwa victory and the endless praising and adulating of Menelik ‘Tiqur Sew’? Tune on ETV. It is all over it. Nice to be from a country, where you can praise and and damn one man at the same time, as you see fit. I hope in the future, in Eritrea, those who worship Isayas and those, who are victimized by him will get to memorize him as they see fit. Those, whose organs are harvested in Sinai might build a statue of the same type with the ‘severed breast’ to remember what Isu has done to them and the worshipers could build another statue in the middle of Asmara showing him and his mustache…

        P.S.. Auntie Ethiopia thank you for your support..

        • Saleh Johar

          Great idea Eyob, I will promote a statute of Janhoi’s soldiers tearing an Eritrean baby apart :-)

          • ethiopia

            u right me too will promote a statute of meles’s soldiers tearing ethiopian baby in addis, sidamo, oromia, ogaden, gondar and gambella apart.

          • ttyy

            Egypt would be the losing party at the end of the day. The Ethiopian renaissance dam will be completed, however, Egypt’s approach to this dam has been seen as bullying Ethiopia by other African countries who have a part in Nile water. In the long run other African countries see Egypt as a trouble maker to get what it wants, which is going to diminish Egypt’s ability to be accepted as faithful and sincere negotiator down the road by the riparian countries. As far as Eritrea goes, it is important to notice that the government of Eretria sees itself as a marginalized entity in east Africa. Whenever the Eritrean government involves in something that is regional importance it comes out to support the worst case sensorial. Eretria’s regional involvement just to upset Ethiopia will continue until isayas is in power and after that the new leaders would have enough evidence not to work against Ethiopia but with Ethiopia. Working with Ethiopia was not going to be imposed by Ethiopia but the facts on the ground will provide enough information which course of action to take by new Eritrean government. Eritrea is not separated from Ethiopia or vise versa geographically, socially , culturally but only politically. This politically separation is having difficulty to take root because the other essentials cultural, geographical, and social separations are forced by political power.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Gash Saleh,

            Too bad I am not a Kunama, but if I were, I’d propose a statue in Barentu commemorating Awate’s atrocities on people of Kunama… :-)

          • Saleh Johar

            besaq gedelkegn lij Eyob!

            You forgot one thing, you have to have been a witness or depend on credible authenticated sources for your claim, like the world has shelves of books decribing your slave traders and killers! Justice is not about tit-for-tat, gebah yenie geta :-)

          • Eyob Medhane

            Ah..Gash Saleh,

            May be you’re right. What is the use of tit-for-tat. I would have recounted many books that describe many things that you might not want to me to know and reveal. Besides, I wouldn’t want to get off topic here, which is Isayas Afeworki going to the Arabs to offer his ‘services’ on behalf of the country he leads, as his compatriots have done before…. let’s steer the discussion to that… :-)

          • Saleh Johar

            Indeed dear, he was a puppy of the TPLF and continued to be that until the fateful day in late 1997. He did that during the “Coalition of the willing” just to kiss up not for anything else. He did that with AlShabab. The Arabs are just customers like everyone else, don’t go full throttle racist on me :-) Once a political prostitute, always a cheap … (I can’t write the word I have in mind in a family forum)

          • Yodita

            The ‘ping pong’ betweeb Saleh Johar and Eyob M, is it for real? Do they realize how far removed they are from a world in constant change towards connecting and building. (At least one of them) is so fastened in rancor and revenge, hammering on a specific historical misdeed come rain come shine, it is outright boring. When you guys ‘wallow’ in this ping pong, you become a glaring manifest of what is old and dying and an impediment towards renewal and healing and life and a better tomorrow. Don’t you tire hammering on the same negative point day in and day out?
            One tries to overcome the Nictriccs and their humming and buzzing in Awate.com and disappears to come back to this refusal to let go of hate with a capital H. I guess I fully appreciate now why so many take long sabaticals from Awate.com.

          • dd

            How about a fence on the border which is made up of a statue of as many as the number of Eritrean killed by Ethiopian?

          • feven1

            Saleh, you sound as if you are still in Sahil broadcasting sensational anti Ethiopian propaganda…I thought you have been dancing to at least 23 independence parties, or are you the disgruntled party spoiler?

          • Abinet

            I think EPLF has erected that imaginary statute in the mind and heart of Eritrean youth long time ago and used it successfully . No surprise .

          • Kim Hanna

            Mr. Saleh Johar,
            Go ahead promote as you have been promoting everything else. More Eritrean babies had been torn apart by ELF/EPLF in peace time than Ethiopian solders in war. When your partner in crime is putting down Ethiopia or Ethiopians, he does it with other motives than outright, naked hatred like yours.
            Your credibility of promotion is shot when you and or company presented us with Haile Selassie and dope, complete with pictorial evidence. By the way this kind of disorder is called “Haile Selassie derangement syndrome”.
            You have offended me twice in the past. That is two (2) strikes in my book. The third (3rd) time I will ban you forever.
            Since you claimed to be habesha, let me compliment you the habesha way on your avatar picture. You are the spiting image of the great James Brown.
            Good day.
            KH

          • Eri7

            This is realy very intertaining. I think I have to visit this web site frequently as I have to enjoy this funny but at times interesting comments. The comments written her specially by SAAY7 is the CORE of all

        • Mussie Gebreab

          Eyob Medhane, No matter you are married to an Amhara and eat daily kutfo you still are qimalam tigre. what a self hater creature I ever heard.

          • ethiopia

            not only that he is qimalam also he still wants to hide under them. what a defeated spirit.

        • Horizon

          Dear Eyob,
          I can not help it, but I have the urge to say something concerning this statue. I believe that you have a much broader knowledge of Ethiopian politics, and you can tell us more if you think so.

          The statue of a severed breast on a
          severed arm is the weirdest representation of history that one might have seen. It is politics in its meanest form, meant to poison the relation between Amharas and Oromos, especially when we are not 100 percent sure that it really
          happened. If Oromo historians told us that Oromo women were raped and not respected or abducted, something to that effect, I would have believed with much less difficulty. Remember, some of the generals and fighters of Menelik were Oromos.

          Unfortunately, innocent people were killed during the nation building under Teodros and Menelik. Nevertheless, trying to emphasize in such a way with this bizarre statue is rotten politics that does not vindicate the supposed victims. In addition, it is a pity that good money was spent for the wrong purpose. Couldn’t they have erected, for e.g., the statue of a gallant Oromo general, or one great Oromo among those who ruled from the imperial palaces of Gondar or any other great Oromo? Is this all they can come up with? Fortunately,
          it does not represent the sentiment of the great majority of Oromos.

          What would we say, if somebody who happens to be an Amhara nationalist escalates this negative history with a statue somewhere in Gojjam or Wollo, showing an Oromo fighter on a horseback, piercing the pregnant belly of an Amhara woman? History is never objective, and subjective sentiments are rampant. That is why some people rightfully say, let us leave past history to rest.

          Oromo nationalists who failed to secede
          Oromia from Ethiopia will use this statue to drive their political aims in to the minds of innocent young Oromos, because they do not want the idea of secession to die. The unfortunate thing is that the government is exploiting their naivety for
          its own unholy purpose. I hope that the great majority of our proud Oromo ethnic group does not want to buy to a statue meant to distract them from focusing on the future. They will not be tricked in to looking backwards into the foggy past,
          so that they will miss the present and the future, for the sake of some power-mongering elites.

          Fortunately, as you said, this negative history is countered by ETV showing the positive achievements of Menelik II. What Ethiopians want to see is forgiveness, reconciliation and tightened friendship between all ethnic groups, so that together they will prevail over poverty in the immediate future, because poverty is there number one enemy, not one ethnic group or the other.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Horizon,

            I actually share your concern. The statue is ugly, weird with no value of telling any kind of story what so ever. They are building it some where in the back water of Arsi in a very small area called Anole. The story it’s supposed to tell is so mangled that even other EPRDF member parties distanced themselves from it, and even OPDO does not like talking about it that much. It seems that it was designed to attract some OLF sympathizers knowing that its significance and staying value will vanish in few years, given its weirdness and the area that is built, which is very remote. You won’t see such a statue in Assela, Shashemane, Eteya, Nekempt or any visible places in Ethiopia. Even with this one, in Ethiopia, the topic is avoided as much as possible, and lately as todays’ ETV programming demonstrates, Menelik and his positive contribution is being told widely. That is of course to reassure the rest of the population that the proud heritage of the country is still intact. In fact, even children are now encouraged to reenact historical events across ethnic lines, the way you and I grew up learning them. Watch this adorable kids reenacting Adwa and Wuchale treaty. This was broadcasted today on ETV…believe me, brother. The silly revisions of history are destined to vanish..

            http://www.ethiotube.net/video/29905/Truly-Must-Watch-Young-kids-reenacting-the-Treaty-of-Wuchale-and-The-Battle-of-Adwa–March-02-2014

            Sal,

            I beg you to watch these kids… :-)

          • Horizon

            Eyob,

            This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. Thank you a lot for the link.

          • ethiopia

            Abinet, Horizon, Eyob
            no matter u r trying to hide it , this people tplf/tigrai r your worst enemy they showed u for the last 23 years by killing, humiliation, makes u stateless and so many thing .

          • Abinet

            Eyob
            I hope and pray you are right. “Out of sight is out of mind .”

          • saay7

            Selamat Eyobai:

            Happy Battle of Adwa day! I hope to watch the video later and do my awwwww ( I always do that with videos of children and puppies) which is why you did it:) Is there an Italian subtitle to the video…I don’t want to learn there are two different versions of this video:)))

            You and I have gone back and forth on this issue. We have discussed the fact that the Battle of Adwa was militarily unimpressive: the only reason it is noteworthy is because black people defeated white people. Otherwise, it was classic Ethiopian war: 10 soldiers fighting 1. We have discussed the imperial ambitions of Tikur Sew (Africa’s most enterprising slave-trader.) What we haven’t discussed enough is how Menelik was making side deals with Italians behind the back of an emperor (Yohannes) that he had pledged allegiance to (which is why TPLF used to consider Menelik a bad guy before they discovered his palace.) Most importantly, we haven’t discussed this particular line in the Wuchale Treaty:

            “The land referred to as Eritrea is not peopled by Abyssinians, they are Adals, Bejas, and Tigres. Abysinnia will defend her territories but it will not fight for foreign lands of which Eritrea is to my knowledge.”

            Here’s a king, after a victorious war, negotiating a deal with the power he vanquished and he is saying, “nah, I have no interest in Eritrea; my interest lies South and Southeast.” Proving: Eritrea was like its African sister states carved up in a deal between imperial forces. The year after the deal was when Eritrea was formally made an Italian colony with Asmara as its capital. I think every Ethiophile Eritrean should get a copy of this: Emama Ethiopia that you miss so badly has renounced you and is not interested in you:)

            saay

          • ethiopia

            but we showed our interest in Habesha eritreans by paying more than 100,000 lives.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Yada, yada, yada…… :-) Good to hear from you. Now, back to the 21st century, Isayas and his offer to be the errand boy….. :-) In the picture I saw in this thread, they are taking him to a back ally. Whether he is about to get some lashes or…… :-)

          • Robel Yosef Kahsay

            Eyob,
            Why didn’t the kids continue the drama and show when the next king runs away and the dejezmaches becoming askaris? It is not like your grand fathers didn’t end up being askaris :)

            “Most of the Italian troops in East Africa (about 70%) were local East African askaris. While the askaris of the regular Eritrean battalions and the Somali colonial troops of the “Royal Corps of Colonial Troops” (Regio Corpo Truppe Coloniali) were among the best Italian units in East Africa. The majority of the colonial troops in Italian East Africa were recruited, trained, and equipped to do no more than maintain order in the colony. The Somali Dubats recruited from border clansmen provided useful light infantry and skirmishers but the irregular bande were much less effective. Ethiopian askaris and irregulars, recruited during the brief Italian occupation, deserted in large numbers after the outbreak of war. The Royal Corps of Colonial Troops included horse-mounted Eritrean cavalry known as “Falcon Feathers” (Penne di Falco). On one occasion a squadron of these horsemen charged British Commonwealth troops throwing small hand grenades from the saddle.”

          • Saleh Johar

            Eyob, just a correction. The picture is an old one when he toured the old city about four years ago. It is a recycled picture.

          • S Michael

            Sal,
            No matter what, this is why I love you my man.I have to confess now that you are more than super-intelligent! I just feel bad that Eritrea is not taking advantage of the super brains of the Salehs!!

            Well, it won’t be far away.

          • Tazabi

            Menelik – “… Africa’s most enterprising slave-trade …”. Let us see – so was the Prophet Mohammed – which many see as perfect example of conduct – so was George Washington – the father of the greatest democracy in history – so was Thomas Jefferson – the father of the US constitution.

            Victory of Adwa was unimpressive – The whole world was impressed except Eritrean military experts – okay will try harder next time

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Horizon,

            Reason is not always on the side of politicians or is it vise versa? The anti-Amhara sentiment of the exiled Oromo elites is so vivid that they cornered OPDO many times acquiesce to their demands. The utter obsession of these elites to the the past is what got us to this grim reality. This statue wouldn’t be a symbol of emancipation but a symbol of discordance and could stall or delay further consolidation of the union.

      • Abe

        Where in Ethiopia is the so called statue?Is it in little Ethiopia opposition road inside Eritrea? Could this be another of ur ” Virtual” statue, a wishful dream?
        FYI, in Ethiopia we are building ,Railways, High ways, Dams, Sugar factories,Fertilizer factories ,textile factories… in dozens.It is called Nation building.
        No time or a penny to wast on Shida., Fenkil..kedamay werar, kalay Werar….etc Monthly Dankeras…

    • ethiopia

      is there any other alternative for ethiopian opposition with out the assistance of other group to win their freedom.

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