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Eritrean Ambassador To Nigeria Arrested In Asmara

On Tuesday April 29, 2014, plain-clothed security officers arrested Mohammed Ali Omaro, Eritrea’s Ambassador to Nigeria, from the streets of Asmara. His whereabouts are still unknown, but security officers searched his house after they arrested him. Omaro is a veteran of Eritrea’s armed struggle and a co-founder of EPLF, now PFDJ, Eritrea’s ruling (and sole legal) party.

Past behavior of the Eritrean government shows that anyone can be arrested arbitrarily without any acknowledgement by the government or notification of their families.

Generally, they stay in jail until the government decides to release them or they simply disappear never to be heard from again.

Omaro is a famous veteran who joined the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF) in the early sixties and is considered one of the pioneers of the struggle. In 1965, Omaro became the commander of zone 4, one of the five zonal commands of the time.

Alamain Mohammed Said, now the Secretary of the ruling party, worked in zone 4 as a political commissioner under Omaro, while Isaias Afwerki, the president, was the commissioner for zone five under Welday Kahsay, who later surrendered to the Ethiopian government.

In 1970, Omaro became the field commander of the People’s Liberation Forces (PLF), an Osman Saleh Sabbe led faction that split from the ELF.  Three different factions, all named PLF (PLF1, PLF2, PLF3) consolidated to become the Eritrean People’s Liberation Front (EPLF) which was presided over by Ramadan Mohammed Nur (from the Sabbe-led faction) or Isaias Afwerki (from the Isaias-led faction.)

After 1977, Isaias successfully distanced Omaro from the politburo after which Omaro assumed roles in different capacities: in the information department, the fighting forces, and in organizational affairs (he was in charge of the organizational affairs in Sudan when he coordinated contacts that resulted in the discussions between the EPLF and the Ethiopian Derg under the auspices of the Carter Centre.)

Along with Ahmed Badouri and Ahmed Quesi, Omaro is credited with establishing the “Voice of the Broad Masses” (Dimtsi Hafash/Sout al Jamaheer) radio program in the Eritrean field. He has also worked as a roving emissary of the EPLF in the Arab countries where he, among other things, established the EPLF office in Saudi Arabia.

After Eritrea’s independence in 1991, Isaias has relentlessly worked to banish Omaro from Eritrea by assigning him to ambassadorial positions in Sudan, Cairo, Kenya, and other places until he finally assigned him to Nigeria, a position he held until his arrest on Tuesday.

Omaro’s arrest sent shock waves to the Eritrean Diaspora, considering his historical role and age. He is in his seventies and in poor health.

In Eritrea, the regime doesn’t need evidence to arrest, nor is there due process. People are arrested for being perceived a risk to Isaias’ grip on power, or a potential risk, or simply for falling out of Isaias’ favor, or not loyal enough.

In September 2000, the government arrested prominent ministers, military commanders and ambassadors, collectively known as G-15. (G-15 stands for Group of 15, the number of dissidents who signed an open letter demanding reform.) Nothing is known about their fate to date. According to many human rights reports, there are thousands of Eritreans arrested and have been made to disappear since 1991.

Omaro’s return to Eritrea was at his own initiative, without Isaias’ summon, after a long banishment. Considering the internal struggle among senior party apparatchiks since the Forto incident of January 21st 2013, observers believe that this was a serious threat to Isaias.

Omaro, a well regarded historical figure, resisted Isaias’ political assassination attempt, though he was rolled from one location to another just to keep him out of the country. At a time when there is a break from the grip of Isaias and the old guards and veterans have begun to be assertive in appreciating the history of the Eritrean struggle, his arrest is expected to have serious ramifications.

According to an observer who has access to PFDJ party leaders, “Eritrea is suffering from a political vacuum and Omaro’s appearance in Asmara is easily perceived by Isaias as a threat that has to be chocked to deny him any opportunity to rally people or to discuss national and governance situation with his comrades.”

Reached by phone, the observer stated that “the power struggle among the many factions within the top and middle level army officers and senior members of the regime and the party has been boiling for over a year under the surface.”

He further stated, “However, the conflict is particularly exasperated within two major factions of the party both planning to remove Isaias. One group, represented by a few high ranking officers, old guards, and party bosses, is vying to keep the status-quo in response to the Jan. 21 Forto insurrection, and are aiming at carrying out cosmetic changes on the system, while the other group is a continuation of the Forto incident which aimed for an urgent and meaningful democratic transformation of the state and party apparatus.”

The Forto insurrection was led by middle rank military officers.

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  • SA

    Selam Yodita,

    In my opinion, this post along with your response post to Amde below are your most inspired and most eloquent posts that I have read. I have been been reading your posts for some time, and I can say that you are one of our good writers here in this forum. But I have to say that you are now writing at a different and greater level (over the last couple of days). Although I may not share your enthusiasm about Ghedli, I admire your writing. Keep the good writing coming….

    SA

  • AMAN

    Thankyou TES for the explanation
    Now I understand that the situation is drastically changed only after 1998 according to your explanation
    which I agree because I left the country in 1997 just before 1998.
    So what does this mean ?
    We are at crossroads and we have two choices !
    One is to return the to the pre 1998 situation or
    two is to follow the downhill enginereed for us in 1998 by DIA !

    • tes

      Dear Aman,

      It is good that my explanation has given you some light.

      I will come later with more detailed information, for the time being, non of the two are the solutions. We need a complete new line, but by forgetting what we have, but by changing the way we will continue.

  • AMEN

    Honestly speaking……………….
    I have 10 unanswered questions to Amde, Kifle,TES, and all others.
    1- Was the war started because of the National Service proclamation ?
    or because the US council representative in Asmara advised his country’s state department he didn’t feel confortable
    or didn’t like the independent and presumably divergent paths (according to his 7 year period ananlysis of the country)
    Eritrea and Ethiopia are following economically, socially and politically. And/or the fear of Us ally Israel that all parts
    of the RED SEA will be under the control of Arabic ideology leaning countries (including Eritrea if it doesn’t conform
    to US demands like Ethiopia or after democratic rule which will reduce the power of our ally Issayas/EPLF) ?
    2- If the two countries existed separately and independent of each other, which country will be economically viable ?
    Eritrea or Ethiopia ? If so why did Ethiopia pull out from the trade and economic agreement which it begged for it to
    the dislike of Eritrea first and why would it resort to war when Eritrea introduced the Nakfa in response to and when
    Ethiopia itself to the first step to issue new Birr notes to devalue Eritrean bank holdings ?
    3 – Weren’t there calls for war from Ethiopian Tplf and defunct Eprp circles even before these monetary wars as a
    result of decades of propaganda and false indoctrination by the regimes against the oppressed Eritrean/Ethiopian
    peoples and their struggle ?
    4- Was there any legitimate and true representative government in Ethiopia right after 1991 to negotiate the return
    of Eritrea to the unity of Ethiopia which HSI wrecked it with ignorance and contempt and caused the destruction,
    damage and huge personal and material sacrifice to reverse the ongoing demise and destruction of Ethiopia which
    was soon to be followed by Oromia and OGADENIA unless Ethiopia changes sooner than later and TPLF changes
    faster first to EPRDF then to post EPRDF ? Or do you expect that Eritrea should remain shackled for 20 plus years
    until Ethiopia cleans this political dirty water of TPLF/EPRDF ?
    ( Qs 5 to 10 will follow soon…………..)

  • tes

    Dear Awatistas,

    In one of my response here, dear brother named Bel asked me about my leave to Eritrea, though for the time being let it be as he said, and the benefit I got under the PFDJ regime. He wrote like this;

    “You said “pfdjites had no apetite to learn….” If that is what you believe and please answer a simple question:

    You left Eritrea, just in 2012, then, wouldn’t you say, what ever you are or however your react or the level of knowledge you have is gained or shaped by the PFDJ, as you lived all your life there, you got your higher education there, you developed most of your world view there? Would not that mean you are basically a product of HGDF, whether you like it or not, consciously or unconsciously? (Compare that to Amanuel Hidrat’s detachment form Eritrea for long time, meaning he has was not exposed to PFDJ in any way or form. Meaning, he is a product of the outside world)

    If the above is true, and if your philosophical kind of talks here are to be taken any seriously and if we are to take you as smart, wouldn’t you say PFDJ really dis good if it is managing to produce philosophers like you? Well, of course, we see the weakness in the English language, reflected by your incoherent stuff you write here, but that is nothing”

    Such questions and acquisitions are normal mouth piece of PFDJites and those who try to take the positive without going deep into its true meaning. If PFDJ is the master of all, then, his worshipers are right to praise and acknowledge him for whatever it happened. If there is negative, they try to act shield of protecting the tyranny and when there is positive they don’t feel shame to bow and worship him as the DOER of everything, the aLmighty, the Yikealo. Anyway, every good hearted Eritrea knows now the demonic nature of pfdj and its ideology in corrupting the mind of the masses. But, it is not rare to see counting the so called success of PFDJ by ignoring the SLAVE-MASTER relationship he built in today’s Eritrea.

    Saying this, I assumed and with motive I got from brother Amanuel Hidrat, to pull here what I responded to bel. Under no condition I will acknowledge PFDJ, all I have is of the ERITREAN people and international communites and governments who contributed for what I am here now. PFDJ did a lot in dismantling the educational system of Eritrea. After independence, they came with Ethiopian curriculum, just by squeezing them into 11 years of academic life and the university continued with its old curriculum. The only PFDJ’s academic curriculum came into effective after 2003. And I was free from all these.

    I would appreciate for questioning my status. Your questions are good to the level that someone is naive. Fortunately, my search is inline to your questioning. I mean, “how PFDJ want us to perceive him.” He [pdfj] as the best giver of knowledge.

    Let me give you very simple answer, for what ever circumstance, human being learns, even under the brutal prison centers of pfdj, you will get hundreds of philosophers. Who came to question the unquestionable. I said earlier, Individuals are SLAVED in Eritrea, but, lets remember, even a slave learns from whatever means he got.

    let me just confront you with this: Just after I left Eritrea in 2012, I have got a chance to study in 7 universities in 4 different countries. Just within 1 year and 8 months. Imagine now what I am addressing to you. You can gues what I am learning and how fast and what a good environment. But, in 5 years stay in Eritrea during my university study, I spent all in one university. Can you imagine how closed I was?

    When I was in Eritrea, I was forced to shut-up not to speak for what I know, for what I observe, for what I philosophize. if you say, it is up to you, YES it is. Because, I know what the end fate was, Era-ero or in the many prison centers that are scattered all around the country. Many of them, underground.

    I studied in the only existed university of Eritrea (now officially no more) and it was at the time of political chaos and turmoil in Eritrea. I joined the university in 2001 (where G-15 got prisoned, the university students went to Wi’A) and Eritrea became under full dictatorship of DIA, many university students who were sent to South Africa openly opposed DIA, many more, and while I was there, the university stopped accepting new comers, new colleges opened their doors, and the university property was confiscated and handed to the colleges. And later, all staff members were forced to join the newly opened universities, the university closed its doors (2006). This was my period of study under PFDJ.

    Then, was I studying or observing on what was happening around me? I never got a good environment to study even I did not get a chance to be graduated in the university that I studied, I was kicked-of and forced to have the graduation ceremony in Mai-Nefhi (2007). No environment, no study

    dear Bel.

    For your record;

    PFDJ did nothing except destroying and corrupting the Eritrean educational system. Even the so-called newly opened colleges were not as he used to claim for. pfdj built only one institute (Mai-Nefhi -with the help of a budget he got from EU and Norway) and Adi-keih- for Adi-keih – from Chinese government), the rest are just converted to college level
    (Hamelmalo Agricultural College, college of Marine science, Halhale business college, which was originally built by UoA as an extension plan) or down-graded to college level (college of health) and opened one school of medicine (within Orrota hospital, in fact it was under the property of Nursing school that was stablished in 1950s in Mekane-hiwet).

    Dear bel, your counting is nothing but, you are telling me to count how good PFDJ did to me. But I challenge you; PFDJ
    corrupted my mind and left me to live n his JUNGLE, where, no future was possible to look for.

    But, remember, all human being have different way of experiencing life, interpreting life, learning process and sharing what they have within them. All I have is simply the result of a QUESTION TO THE UNQUESTINABLE, works of the curious mind, not, works of PFDJ mindset. I said PFDJ mind-set, because how you approached is nothing but what I am looking for: To worship PFDJ for the good deeds. I tell you though, PFDJ Betrayed me, betrayed us, he is a traitor.

    Above all, If I am going to thank, I will thank to my people whom they supported by all means to my study and by all means I will not forget and I will do my best for the future Eritrea starting right now with fighting for justice and full freedom.

    Hawka tes

    * I will add more here

    Let me tell you in short how I was escaping the scissors of PFDJ.

    1. I joined technical school in 1998 and finished in 2001. Those who joined technical school in 1999, did not get a chance to join university. I was the last batch to be allowed to join the university.

    2. After 2002, the only university we had stopped accepting students. And in 2003, no student joined and since I was in the engineering department, I was the last to say good bye Asmara University in 2006. Even I didn’t get a chance to held my graduation.

    3. In 2007, PFDJ introduced two kinds of services, national service and community service, which was initially opposed by University student union and hence I was forced to serve for nothing (Zero payment for 3 years (08/2006-04/2009).

    4. After being slaved for 6 years in college works, I was sent to China for higher studies in 2012. And, after 2012, formally no scholarship was allowed except for very few to China. After almost 8 years of blocking for higher studies, in 2008, the higher board started to send abroad. And many staff members got a chance to continue. But, since many of them did
    not return back, he again closed sending abroad in 2012 except to countries where he considered are not convenient to go away.

    Do you see then, how I had gone through my academic life, crossing the sharp cutting knife of PFDJ? Is it by chance? May be for me YES, but how about the many my fellow Eritreans whom I have seen them crying when their future was just blocked and lost hope?

    Is that what PFDJ worshipers are counting for?

    Shame to them, shame to PFDJ and shame to you for counting without knowing the TRUTH.

    • tes

      A continuation:

      The evil acts of PFDJ are thousands and millions. To take one for today, PFDJ did beyond one can imagine to dismantle the educational system of Eritrea. After independence, they came with Ethiopian curriculum, just by squeezing them into 11 years of academic life and the university continued with its old curriculum. The only PFDJ’s academic curriculum came into effective after 2003 (Anyone in doubt, he can refer to Eritrean Educational Policy that was released in 2003). For Bel, I am not the product of PFDJ Educational Policy, I got my education from the collection books with no proper policy. And today’s PFDJ’s Educational Policy is in line with what I labeled in one of my article here in awate, the JUCHe Ideology. PFDJ has never dreamt to narture Eritreans in the way Eritreans dreamt, but in the way PFDJ dreamt. ANd PFDJ is Illegal, a tyranny, a regime with no Rule of Law and hence is his Educational policy.

    • Bel

      To be frank here, understanding your comment is more like a guess work
      Like most of us here (May be a little more in your case than the average commenter in the house), you struggle with the English language, (Probably is a direct translation of the thought in your head which was formed in the Tigrigna). You can take that as a healthy criticism, or you can imitate some of the so called greats here and sing “HGDF….HGDF…” Dedhri Adgi zikede Tirat adgi lemede, Dedhri Haile Zikede, halewlow lemede, kind of thing.

      Now, the point in my previous comment is this: HGDF is not something like a wild big monster with horns and a tall mean tail, just like those monsters you see in Sci-Fi or horror movies. HGDF it is repeated here negatively in a none stop fashion by fools to create that monsteristic vision in the brains of the innocent and the naïve, so much so that they get detached from reality, and forget that HGDF is just a collection of Eritreans (Your regular nice neighbor, uncle, aunt, friend, brother, sister, sharing all the miseries and happiness of Eritrea in first hand. Actually, those are the good sons of Eritrea who are always in the LINE OF FIRE standing for Eritrea. Compare that to those who has been away from Eritrea detached for 30 or more years, like Amanuel Hidrat, who are so loud here to shamelessly pretend to cry for Eritrea more than the ones bleeding) who did and are still doing for Eritrea to the best of their ability and the best they know how.
      Now, judging by the personal story of yourself, you volunteered here, it is easy to see YOU ARE THE HIGDF OF THE HOUSE (Or a product of HGDF). So, stop saying HGDF this HGDF that Jini-Janka.
      But, from the things you list here as problems or failures of HGDF, I am sure you are one of the product of HGDF, meaning you are SPOILED!. You have no clue what hardship and problem is, as you were protected and shielded by your government. Meaning your (People like you) first encounter with real hardship is when you go out of Eritrea.
      – The other day, you were cursing HGDF because you were not able to finish your Phd before your 31st birthday. Imagine that! See, like I said, you are spoiled rotten and you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
      – You were cursing that HGDF for being anti-education, because, according to you, after 2008, when those sent abroad to study, failed to return back home and serve their people, HGDF, the bastard, stopped sending people for further study. That bastard HGDF!.
      – Then you go on and say, finally in 2012, they don’t have any choice but to send you for further study (As if there is no other place thy can put you After all, Eritreans are not still in the trenches defending their nation) Where you demonstrated you have a previous good educational foundation, or at least a good knowledge of the need of Education, you might have developed somewhere (That Damned HGDF!), to be granted or qualified to be accepted by seven universities, imagine that!
      – Oh, you failed to return to Eritrea after your study, hence you blocked the opportunity others could have got, because your very action will be a reason for not sending them for further study. That stupid HGDF!
      Wodaje….
      I think you need to go back to school, academic or social or both. You

  • AMEN

    Anyways, I have long stopped trusting and believing both ( ruling and opposition) sides
    and their follower cadres and what they try to tell us here. And that is why I suspended
    my membership from any party and decided to champion the demands of the majority
    (silenced) of our people for a good cause with other free and independent individuals
    or citizens. And to your surprise the more I distance from those so called parties the
    more I learn about past,present and future and the more I get it right. So that fuels more
    my energy to work towards that end – championing and advocating peoples issues and
    concerns independent of parties on either side of the fence. That means NATION AND
    PEOPLE FIRST before party principles and party leaders interests.
    So the message I would like to pass is I like the writings by either side here but I have
    the least doubt it will sway me and my independent learning and research of history.
    I have also seen the coming to the fore of the THIRD WAY which is an encouraging result
    of our effort and the ideas we were putting forward to yesterday. That is the admission of
    the the shortcomings, weaknesses and mistakes of the two sides ( organized groups )
    vis a vis the call and demand of the general public and with regard of the Nation and its
    people.
    Thankyou Awate forum
    But my question now is if all admitt the past has been an erroneous effort or work
    why are some expecting some results before a new re-organization, re-orientation
    and may be return to normal is done first that corrects the past mistakes and launched
    anew for better results ?
    So better know and dedicate yourself (including us outside the groupings) for the long
    and just struggle than fooling thyselves as if something usefull struggle is done so far.
    Actully in our opinion what has been done so far is destructive struggle for demise
    not a constructive struggle for success judging by its motives,directions,methods
    organizations and Goals from A to Z.
    Again…………………Yes ! there is no shortcut to a struggle !
    Yes ! there is no positive end from a negative beginning !

  • tes

    Sorry Awate team,

    I had some problem with my computer, may be there is duplication in my posting.

    Thank you

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Mr. Hope,

    Below in the link, you will find the “five points plan” proposed by the government of Ethiopia in 2004. This article is pulled from the Eritreandaily.net, one of the Eritrean website. You will find the five points towards the end of the article. That was and is still the position of Ethiopia on how to resolve/implement the EEBC verdict.

    http://www.eritreadaily.net/news/article20041128.htm

    Hawka,
    Amanuel

    • Hope

      Emma,
      Will all due respect,would you be so kind to analyse and interprete the meaning of those 5-points as Bro Tafla tried to do so?

      • hope

        Read “With all due respect”….with apology.

        Plus Emma,that website has an Eritrean name as a cover up as I know exactly who that person/owner/editor is/was

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Mr. Hope,
          You were asking about the “5 point proposal” of the Ethiopian government to some who where debating with you. I brought the link in case if it helped you. The 5 point proposal, whether we agree/disagree do not require interpretation, they are straight forward. If your question was to know the “5 point proposal” as you where asking repeatedly, why is it important to you about the source?

          Berhane, the owner of the Eritreadaily.net is an Eritrean by nationality and defend the Eritrean sovereignty like all of us. That is how I know him from reading his writings.

          • Bel

            You are kidding, right? There is no way the person who goes by “Tsere Milki” in pal talks is an Eritrean (Who cares his ethnicity, his heart is not with Eritrea) !! he is so twisted, so Haile!

          • hope

            Emma,
            The 5-point proposal does have lots of ” semna werk”.One of the USA diplomats clearly questioned all the points and even he himself questioned the Ethiopian Gov for not being clear and honest.
            as to Mr. Berhan,he could be a defender of the Eritrean Sovereignty publically but he could also be another YG or another under-cover Neo-unionist based on lots of circumstantial evidence we might have about him…..We have seen lots of Pseudo-Eritreans–inclduing here in this forum.
            But no one needs to be a Rocket Scientist to understand the “semna werk” of the 5-point proposal as Mr Tafla tried to point out.
            I am just amused by the way you are acting on the “Behalf of the Ethiopian Gov”.

          • tafla

            Hope,

            I like your firm stand. I have noticed a very strange atmosphere in this forum lately too. Is it diplomacy at work, do you think? Very peculiar feeling indeed.

            Just look at this doubll-speak from Horizon:

            This is what he told me:

            “With more future economic, political and social connections with Djibouti, Kenya, Sudan, SS and even Somalia, the special place of Eritrea for Ethiopia, will be undermined and become insignificant and even extinct. The new electric trainconnection between Addis and Djibouti, the port of Tajoura serving northern Ethiopia, with a railway connection with Mekele, and the port of Lamu serving Southern Ethiopia, the fate of Assab and Eritrea in future Ethiopian economy, will be sealed in

            the most dramatic way, thus cutting the bond once forever. Then, my friend, the survival of the small and third world country of 4m, will be as precarious as one can imagine, although the country is already at that point.”

            and this is what he told abinet (a fellow Ethiopian)

            “Assab is the key for a sustainable Ethio-Eritrean peace. No generation of Ethiopians would accept a permanently landlocked Ethiopia, when the sea is only a day’s walking distance from the border, and Ethiopians can smell the sea, but cannot see it.

            Those who say that the independence of Eritrea has no meaning without Assab, are Eritreans who see Eritrea’s independence only through the prism of choking Ethiopia, which is a very big mistake.”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Mr. Hope,

            I think you are not a healthy debater. When you cried out loudly to know for the ” 5 point proposal” I brought it for you the link. For me the 5-point proposal are straight forward, no need interpretation. If for you really needs interpretation, go for it and swim in the wilderness of irrationality, to upload your ilogic-flash-drive through your negative synaptic-vesicles of your brain.

            Sitting on a round table doesn’t make you lose your position. You sit and state your position based on the interest of your nation. If you sit and discuss there will be always an exit strategy from the “no war no peace” strategy. If you are not sure of your diplomatic acumen, then you play the game of “avoiding the call of the day” to resolve the problem with your counterpart. That is what Issayas and his government are doing. If they come with their 5-point proposal, we can go with our own 5-point proposal. You don’t say I will not talk, if you want to find a resolution to the problem.

            Hope where did you get me acting on behalf of Ethiopian government? Strange enough, people have the audacity to say whatever comes in their mouth and of course under pen-names.

          • Jo

            Selamat Amanuel,

            What do you think about having the dialog before the implementation of the EEBC decision? If I am not mistaken, I think, I read, you saying that you support going for dialog, right? If I am wrong I will stand corrected with apology.

            Dialog on what?

            What are the parameters of the dialog?

            What if the demands put by one is not accepted by the other, then go back to square one?

            Why is it important to have the dialog now not after the demarcation?

            Luwam zelewo meAlti!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Jo,

            You don’t dialogue on the EEBC decision. You discuss on how to implement on the ground. It is not easy as we think generally. You could argue even on square meters on putting the pillars practically on the ground. So, I don’t see any problem to discuss while they are implementing the EEBC decision or erecting the pillars of demarcation, on where and how, as far as there is goodwill from both sides to end the stalemate. There is nothing we could lose from sitting, as far as we sit on the table having the interest of our nation at the center. There will always compromise one meter here and one meter there in order to end the ordeals. Remember these two governments had a plan to forge a relationship to “Dob zeyeblu berki ki’Abi”. So what is the problem if we go for “give and take”, a meter here and a meter there? and then the two countries could focus on economic development. These two countries have many opportunities to grow mutually on economic sectors, if we have wise leadership on both sides. That is my dream on the relationship of these brotherly people. We can’t live on the past if we want to build the future.

          • Bel

            So, this negotiation is about a small pieces of areas to give and take, huh?
            – If that is the case what is the point of the Military presence of your woyanie in places determined to be Eritrean by the EEBC, if the EEBC is not the topic for dialogue? And why would woyanie hang on to Badme, for more than a decade and counting, just for a few meters here and there? Are you mocking the Eritrean people now?
            – If the dialogue is about other stuff, why is it associated or linked to the EEBC verdict or to the border issue as a whole, for that matter?
            – If the EEBC is being taken as a hostage, and is being used to twist Eritrea’s hand to come to woyanies terms on other stuff, then how is that going to work for the benefit of Eritrea?
            – Shouldn’t Eritrea have a right to choose on weather to bring other staff for negotiation or , when to negotiate, how to negotiate with out being forced to do so with out a hanging nose around its neck? What type of negotiation is that anyway?
            – Don’t forget Eritrea have all the right to chose with which country to have a relationship with, and least of all, the legal ruling of the EEBC, which Eritrea stood to respect, should never, at any circumstance, be used against it or as a arm twisting thing.
            Woyanie should respect the EEBC, period! Any other relationship or negotiation or whatever should be voluntary and by the good will of both nations.

          • Bel

            Aha! so it is “Dorguahayo” time now? So you think Eritreans are so broken down and divided enough now, and is safe to come out officially and declare to be the conveyor delivering the wicked 5 point Woyanie’s plan to the Eritrean people?
            What you are doing now is called “Eritranizing the Woyanies 5 point plan” Meaning you are trying to legalize an illegal act. That way you are covering up the woyanie agenda as if it is an Eritrean agenda and to the benefit of Eritrea.
            You see, may be you have a very low regard of Eritrea but,
            1. Eritrea and Woyanie have already done the dialogue
            2. They have already agreed to settle the matter legally. What brings lasting peace more than the legal way?
            3. If you are to by pass a legally determined thing, what is there or where do you go from there if things did not work out?
            4. Aren’t you voiding the legally settled verdict by sitting for dialogue again?
            5. Aren’t you stripping off Eritrea of its right to depend or find support that a court or legal system provides?
            6. Doesn’t that mean you are giving in to force and bullying? If you think we should do that, aren’t you forgetting Eritrea got its independence because it never kneels down to bullying, injustice and aggression?
            7. Aren’t you stripping Eritrea of its stance of being a just nation who abides by the court of law?
            8. Aren’t you rewarding an aggressor, the Woyanie?
            9. With out the legal cover, how in the hell are you to negotiate for the interest of Eritrea? And where and when does the negotiation stop?
            10. If Woyanie can bully you now to accept an illegal act, how in the hell are you going to prevent what they would do next?
            11. Isn’t there a principle involved here?
            12. Aren’t you projecting weakness and displaying defeatism, there by crushing the core foundation of Eritrea, which might lead to other break downs,
            13. What justification would you give for the holding of Badme or other small places by Woyanie? and what is the point and how is that related to the negotiation? Meaning what the hell is the difference for woyanie if they talk with Eritrea with or without their military presence in Badme?
            etc, etc….

  • Yodita

    Dear Amde,

    I reiterate that there were genuine revolutionaries of the 60s and 70s who had grand visions of liberating the toiling masses (beyond boundaries and flags). Eritrea had hers (pre 76/77) in those who, among other things, debated whether nationalism as an ultimate goal was the only scope of a revolution. They were later
    liquidated as Menka’E or Yemin or what have you. You may not appreciate my presentation in as much as it lacks scholarship and appropriate reference. I assure you that I am not inventing anything here and I wish some of the ‘big’ Awatistats would come to my aid.

    In the heat of the Chinese cultural revolution, I believe ‘our’ IA was there, firsthand absorbing the ‘tricks’ of the ‘trade’. Around mid-70s, the very concept that you find incredulous, i.e. “…liberate Eritrea and use it as a spring board for all oppressed peoples and countries (Ethiopia as the closest).. “ was rampant in some elite circles and was sipping through to the common Tegadalay and even the people thus warranting the swift to revenge and power hungry IA to curb it in the bud a la cultural revolution.

    You say “…that a peasant who was conscripted/volunteered into the Ghedli was firing bullets in Afabet to free someone in Assella. To me it is more believable that he was firing a bullet in Afabet for abuse/mistreatment/disrespect he felt heor his family received in Akordat.” You are absolutely right except that these two phenomena are not mutually exclusive; the conscript/volunteer (peasant alongside his city brought up comrade) was being made aware deliberately and methodically that he was not doing it for himself only but for all those (a huge majority of mankind) on his same predicament! There were intense awareness creating activities going on. I feel I am saying elementary things of the Ghedli era to you who in a clear and authoritative manner finds my comments – far-fetched or unreal and who may know it in detail.

    I’ve made it my business to learn as much as I can about that point in time of the Ghedli because it is UNDOUBTEDLY the turning point of the scope and dream of some of our greatest elite revolutionaries!! Kbur Tegadalay Temenwo leaves no stone unturned to enlighten us that our IA had his own agenda from DAY ONE of his involvement in the Struggle. Kbur Temenwo says, there were brighter, more educated, truly democratic and progressive elements that out-shone IA by leaps and bounds!! But, they were not SCHEMING, they were in earnest and humility offering their whole being, including their lives, so that the oppressed mankind could break his fetters! Some of the elite revolutionaries in leadership position, the most of the fighters and the masses grasped this VISION and were ready to give their and their children’s lives to achieve it. This is the true nature of our Ghedli before it was systematically ‘raped’! ( hate to use this word!)

    Years back, a kin, a direct player, told me, during the purging of Menka’E, in the evenings the Tegadelti would sit in circles and stare at each other, terrorized about who was next to be called for interrogation (and may be subsequent torture and liquidation), simply because some felt they were free enough to voice their
    concurrence with those that were being accused of being ‘revisionists’ and being persecuted – the Menka’E’ .
    Dear Amde, if you are conversant and knowledgeable about the Eritrean Ghedli , my comments here may be of no help to defend my assertion about the spring board and the rest of the points you do not find plausible. In the event you are not, I wish you and myself long life so that duringour lifetime some students, through their doctoral thesis’ will make it their passion to record it in the scholarship manner it deserves, long before historians do.

    Meanwhile, concluding, I say: your comments above mix up what IA and PFDJ are doing after they so to speak owned the ‘dreams and aspirations’ of the true revolutionaries with the ‘magical’ aspect of the Ghedli experiencethat lifted the Eritrean people to a much higher plane than henceforth, albeit very costly!

    It is everywhere this quest for fairness and justice ንሕና ድማ መቐረቱ ኣለና።

  • Nitricc

    The dishonest of the Ethiopians must be transcribed along their DNA. Read the gullible Eritreans, they are trying everything to undo and oppose the Eritrean government and even the great Eritrean gedli. the Eritreans will lie to accuse the Eritrean governmnet.
    In the same token; the Ethiopians lie to their teeth to protect their criminal and inferior government. Read the post by the name of T-Kifle and the rest of dishonest Ethiopians? They are so inferior to the truth; they even deny the much known fact.T-kifle, don’t mistake Eritreans and their Gedli with the opinion of, one, missfit, jobless and old outdated individual named YG.
    now, T-Kifle, what do you mean when you said
    “ghedli hangover” what are you trying to say? What does it mean to be in “gedli-hangover”
    Are you denying the contribution of EPLF to your inferior TPLF? Do you know your courageous TPLF never managed to operate tanks or 122 mm in its 17 years struggle?
    You can brage all you want but with out EPLF tanks, your TPLF will never make it out of the battle of Hamusit. EPLF mechanized saved your “ courageous” TPLF. Just you know.

    Amde, you said
    “It chose to follow a path of forced conscription of all its young people, and using that force to bully its neighbors. That is what brought about 1998”
    Where do you get this? I mean where you there to witness it for your self or just one of the usual lie of Ethiopians? where do you get it?

    • Asmerom

      Nitricc
      Poor guy I think you are going to have a heart attack may your might Isaias save you

    • Warsay

      Nitricc,

      Good to know you’re still alive. It’s true that there are some naive Eritreans but I wouldn’t say Eritreans as a whole are naive. We tend to be trusting but once someone crosses us, we do learn our lesson. We are slow, however. We have to get screwed over at least twice before we say enough and cut-off relations. But that’s what’s happened. Haile Selassie screwed us. We formed an alliance with Weyane and gave Weyane everything it needed. Then Weyane takes over the Ethiopian State and Tigray sticks a knife in our back. That was two knives at that point. One knife by Haile Selassie and a second knife by Weyane Tigray. So then Eritreans and their government said that’s it! Two knives in our back is enough. We don’t need a third knife. We will never have relations with y’all. We just need our border demarcated and we don’t ever have anything to do with you again. So I think this is it. Honestly! Even if the border isn’t demarcated for 100 years, we lost some 20,000 precious Warsays. We can’t keep sacrificing our young by making bad deals with the Ethiopians. I think it’s over personally. I talk to many Eritreans and none of them are in a mood to forgive and get a third knife in their back.

    • Amde

      Oh boy. You caught me. You must admit that if you dont know where it is from you must at least give it the honor of designating it “…unusual…”. It is a special one – a one off I labored over just for you. You should feel flattered.

      Amde

      • Shabo

        “Are you denying the contribution of EPLF to your inferior TPLF? Do you
        know your “courageous” TPLF never managed to operate tanks or 122 mm in
        its 17 years struggle?
        “You can brag about all you want but with out EPLF
        tanks, your TPLF would have never made it out of the battle of Hamusit. EPLF Mechanized Division saved your “ courageous” TPLF and placed you at the “Menelik Palace”.
        This is a well documented history written with the blood of Eritrean heroes and heroins that you are now belittling….

  • T. Kifle

    Dear Amde,

    Yodita is in a reverse gear to where all has started as far as YG’s argument is concerned. She is starting a war that would be hard to win. She also made similar foibles, still in good intention, that Ethiopia wouldn’t have been where it is now had it not been for TPLF, who carries in their blood the political and military codes of EPLF. I extended my 2 cents worth of comment but she seemed still in her ghedli hangover and went on reaffirming her position. In any case, your thread is spot on.

    Regards

    • Yodita

      Dear T. Kifle,

      Between the lines of your above post, do I read a slight ‘paternalitic’ tone, not to mention its ‘judgmental and liquidating nature?” At least you could have put the word hangover between inverted commas but in your book I do not merit that sensibility. Too bad for you, man!

      Those who tend to be ‘politically correct’ selectively are not part of the solution. The world has a majority who cannot read and write!

      • T. Kifle

        Dear Yodita,

        I apologize if I caused you pain which wasn’t my intention at all. But you interpretation of my interjection here as “paternalistic” is way out of mark. I was asking you not to harp on unnecessary mentions to justifying the sanctity of ghedli (which I don’t have any problem in it in principle). Amde observed similar traits in your comment and counter-commented.

        Yodita, rhetorics aside, Eritrean ghedli has nothing to give. It’s dissipative, lossy. And it ain’t bode well to claim that you would be so kind to give it in abundance to others a virtue you don’t really have. I encourage you think about it.

  • tes

    Dear
    Bel,

    I
    would appreciate for questioning my status. Your questions are good to the
    level that someone is naive. Fortunately, my search is inline to your
    questioning. I mean, “how PFDJ want us to perceive him.” He [pdfj] as
    the best giver of knowledge.

    Let
    me give you very simple answer, for what ever circumstance, human being learns,
    even under the brutal prison centers of pfdj, you will get hundreds of
    philosophers. Who came to question the unquestionable. I said earlier,
    Individuals are SLAVED in Eritrea, but, lets remember, even a slave learns from
    whatever means he got.

    let me just confront you with this: Just after I left Eritrea in 2012, I have
    got a chance to study in 7 universities in 4 different countries. Just within 1
    year and 8 months. Imagine now what I am addressing to you. You can gues what I
    am learning and how fast and what a good environment. But, in 5 years stay in
    Eritrea during my university study, I spent all in one university. Can you
    imagine how closed I was?

    When I was in Eritrea, I was forced to shut-up not to speak for what I know,
    for what I observe, for what I philosophize. if you say, it is up to you, YES
    it is. Because, I know what the end fate was, Era-ero or in the many prison
    centers that are scattered all around the country. Many of them,
    underground.

    I studied in the only existed university of Eritrea (now officially no more)
    and it was at the time of political chaos and turmoil in Eritrea. I joined the
    university in 2001 (where G-15 got prisoned, the university students went to
    Wi’A) and Eritrea became under full dictatorship of DIA, many university
    students who were sent to South Africa openly opposed DIA, many more, and while
    I was there, the university stopped accepting new comers, new colleges opened
    their doors, and the university property was confiscated and handed to the
    colleges. And later, all staff members were forced to join the newly opened
    universities, the university closed its doors (2006). This was my period of
    study under PFDJ.

    Then, was I studying or observing on what was happening around me? I never got
    a good environment to study even I did not get a chance to be graduated in the
    university that I studied, I was kicked-of and forced to have the graduation
    ceremony in Mai-Nefhi (2007). No environment, no study dear Bel.

    For
    your record;

    PFDJ did nothing except destroying and corrupting the Eritrean educational
    system. Even the so-called newly opened colleges were not as he used to claim
    for. pfdj built only one institute (Mai-Nefhi) and two colleges (halhale and
    Adi-keih), the rest are just converted to college level (Hamelmalo
    Agricultural College, college of Marine science) or down-graded to college
    level (college of health) and opened one school of medicine (within Orrota
    hospital, in fact it was under the property of Nursing school that was
    stablished in 1950s in Mekane-hiwet).

    Dear bel, your counting is nothing but, you are telling me to count how good
    PFDJ did to me. But I challenge you; PFDJ corrupted my mind and left me to live
    in his JUNGLE, where, no future was possible to look for.

    But, remember, all human being have different way of experiencing life,
    interpreting life, learning process and sharing what they have within them. All
    I have is simply the result of a QUESTION TO THE UNQUESTINABLE, works of the
    curious mind, not, works of PFDJ mindset. I said PFDJ mind-set, because how you
    approached is nothing but what I am looking for: To worship PFDJ for the good
    deeds. I tell you though, PFDJ Betrayed me, betrayed us, he is a traitor.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hey Tes,

      Your insight on the dismantled ( the only) University we had, is very helpful to understand the degrading of educational system in our nation.Your answer to “Bel” is also an education for others.

  • Ermias

    I don’t know where people like Yodita, having never been in Ghedli, come to its defense like this while it is glaring in our eyes that Ghedli and the monsters it produced is the cause of all the problems we have. I suspect Yodita is probably younger than the Ghedli generation and instead of holding them accountable to the unsurrmountable collateral damage they created (which in my mind is a 100 fold grander than anything good that came out of independence), she is here blindly defending them comparing elites of all revolutionaries. Some elites are right and some elites are wrong. Our Ghedli generation elites were utterly wrong because they are putting people into extinction. YG is correct when he compared China with Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. That is analogous to comparing Ethiopia (which has an incredibly smooth PR program) with Eritrea. It is for everyone to see.
    I needed to help a good friend who is Ethiopian and I was checking flights to Addis Ababa. I couldn’t help but get super impressed to see that there are flights from DC to Addis every single day. That to Ethiopians is small but I compare this with my people’s situation in Eritrea.

    Yodita, you are a smart cookie as I said a couple days ago but ultranationalism will only blind your incredible potential. I will leave you with a few quotes:

    “The liberators would rather see the nation disintegrate than another generation coming to inherit the real Eritrea. ….”

    “The Kebessa elite fought hard for the 30 years to secede from a larger habitat in which they were thriving, and out of which a viable nation could have been made, to create a claustrophobic and uninhabitable nation. The young generation, sensing that there is not even a semblance of nationhood in this Eritrea, have decided to “move out” in their hundreds of thousands in search of a new habitat. Thus, the Tigrigna elites’ foolishness can be summed up as a population group that has embarked on a difficult life time journey to create a toxic habit from which they wanted to move out instantly; that is, immediately after they “moved in”.”

    You guessed it – those are from none other than YG.

    My comments from yesterday are at least 50% in tune with the quoted above without even having read that article until this morning.

    “Serray, I am not sure about your take on this. If you think regime change will do the trick, why don’t a few out of the tens and tens of thousands think as you do? Those few would make the ultimate sacrifice as we see everywhere a coup is done. I am afraid these young people are not convinced of the idea of Eritrea, maybe just subconciously not convinced. I am sure they are not thinking along the lines of YG, that is too complicated but I think somehow they are not convinced that this country is sustainable. They may not be able to utter it in the kind of analysis you smart guys do on the internets but I am starting to think that these young men and women do not want to have anything to do with this country. If they believed they can take it over and make it work for them, they can do it, just like the ghedli generation did with untold number of sacrifices but this generation doesn’t see anything good coming out of Eritrea no matter what. I am arguing that even if the regime was to change now and everything is put back in order, I would think they would still flee in droves. No other explanation comes to my mind as to why they would put themselves in these kind of situations.”

    • Yodita

      AhleN Ermias,

      When you state “… I don’t know where people like Yodita, having never been in Ghedli, come to its defence like this while it is glaring in our eyes that Ghedli and the monsters it produced is the cause of all the problems we have.”, it is glaringly apparent that it is not the argument that you are paying attention to but who I am as a person. This is a no-go criterion, allow me to say!! I get the impression of what I am saying was said by say, SAAY or YG or any other of those you hold in high esteem, it would change in meaning and value? As far as I am concerned, I am afraid things in reality are not like that!

      Having been in Ghedli, you are sensitive and I do understand that.

      The book ‘The colour Purple’, a book by Alice Walker, a black American author and activist who won the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize for it, is written in PIDGIN English spoken by illiterate personages, but the POWER of the truth it communicates, as regards injustice, is so powerful that it easily surpasses any classical literature!! Spielberg made a very successful film of it (although in my view the movie is no comparison to the book). The point that is communicated is cardinal in my view and has supremacy over any consideration.

      With some of the points raised in your above comments, I do not see eye to eye and will revert later.

      Ms bzuH selamta.

      • Ermias

        Hi Yodita, I couldn’t careless about you or anyone as a person. But your uniformed and unfair comparison of Ghedli’s elites with other revolutions and defedning these criminals is where I am focusing on. I will tell you this and I will close – the potential that Eritreans had back until 1960 or so has been dealt with an irreversible blow. That is why we see all these young people leaving the country like there is no tomorrow. I am not claiming that there was an inherent flaw with the idea of independent Eritrea but Ghedli has put the potential for a viable Eritrea under a very big question mark. Sorry to say to all of you but that is my take because there is nothing natural about nationalities, nations, states, etc. They are made and destroyed by humans. But if you want to understand complex situations, read the YGs, SAAYs, Yoditas and the like. Thank you!

        It is funny you mentioned ‘The ColoUr Purple (you must be in abay britania).’ I read the book and I saw the play in 2008, one of the very few. I will take you up on the offer and re-read the book to refresh my memories.

        • Yodita

          My mistake! For sometime now, I have been reading all entries by ‘Ermias’ as the one who uses his real name and was in Ghedli (believing to have read it in one of your posts). Sorry! I have mixed you up with someone else.

        • Hope

          If you do not belong to either the Ghedli or the post-ghedli generation,how in the world could you judge either of them?
          Yodita,
          Can’t you figure out who and what Ermias is for by now?

        • saay7

          Ermias:

          I think to have a meaningful debate, we must agree on definitions.

          1. Ghedli. Is it the one that we all know (1961-1991) or do you use YG’s elastic term for Ghedli: (1941-1991) when he wants to show it’s a 50-year futile journey; 1972-1991 when he wants to show it was entirely (“except for 5 years”) made up of conscripts.

          2. Ghedli generation: refer to above.

          3. Ghedli elite: Does that include the leaders of the peaceful struggle (1941-1961)? Or does it refer to the leaders of the armed struggle (1961-1991)? Does it include the elite who emerged after Ghedli (1991-present)?

          Once you define it, then I will ask you for names. The elite have names. Unless of course you mean every single leader, including those who were killed by the other elite.

          Yodita:

          Keep on sis: at this rate, I am passing on the baton to you and kicking myself to the front page. It’s gratifying to see the younger generation defend Eritrea’s greatest achievement thus far; its Ghedli. You are spot on on everything including Menkae: the irony that they were “regionalist” is belied by the fact that they were classic proponents of global socialism and, to them, Eritrea was just part of the global struggle to liberate mankind from the shackles of oppression.

          To some degree, so was the EPLF, which is why TPLFs narrow definition of “nation” (borrowed from Stalin), was an anathema.

          Now that Yodita has come out strong; Ghezae has gotten off the YG bus; Semere Andom clarified that he was never on the bus; Papillon is articulating her difference with him, the two dead-enders we have left are Serray and Hayat. We will work on them. Ermias, I am discounting you because by your own admission, sometimes you just write stuff for the hell of it–but I still love you (I am doing that fist bumping chest and then kissing the fist thing now:)

          Saay

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Ermias: people consider me naive, but I believe on the power of exchanging views, some do it peacefully, other with combination of testa and fistfight. Now, on the ghedli stuff: if we didn’t have Italian colonization, we would not have to go through the UN and what followed. If Ethiopia could honor the terms probably we would not have to endure all the sacrifices. Ethiopia didn’t honor its obligation just as it is doing now. People asserted that it could not live subjugated. That required them to embark on the costly ghedli. Without ghedli there is no way you could tell us we would have Eritrea.

      • Yodita

        Kbur Mahmud Saleh,

        I just want to record how enriching and enlightening it is to have your inputs in this forum. I ‘gnash’ my head sometimes asking ‘why aren’t sensible and knowledgeable elements like Mahmud Saleh leading my country?.

        Thank you very much indeed.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Dear Yodita
          I’m not a person of politics; what hurts me is the opportunities/possibilities we’ve lost in all fronts, including sustainable political infrastructure/institutionalized democratic governance. However, people like you remind we have folks, brilliant ones, who have our beloved nation in their heart and not partisan/organizational interest. Thank you for the kind words, though.

  • Amde

    Dear Aman,

    Thank you for the gracious words. I think I was a little intemperate in how I responded, so my apologies if I offended. But I hope you use this opportunity to do some research yourself and find some more information abut that period. I feel it is important because:
    a) it must be the first time that the economic implications of independence became clear to PFDJ which it did not make public to Eritrean people, (if you follow current discussion on Scottish independence referendum, the economic implication has been a constant feature – nothing like that was discussed in the Eritrea case)
    b) while the PFDJ had the military power, it had a window of time to decisively de-militarise and start a cooperative arrangement with its neighbors

    (T. Kifle has been very good at explaining this phase – you might read up on what he has to say. He probably has a lot of insider information.)

    And yet, PFDJ decided to not work for Economic independence, nor to de-militarise. It chose to follow a path of forced conscription of all its young people, and using that force to bully its neighbors. That is what brought about 1998. What is shocking is that it is still following the same policies over a decade after the end of the war..

    amde

    • Hope

      Rather,it was the oppositie.
      -Eritrea downsized its Army below 50K –per your reliable CIA Fact book
      -The National Service issue was declared by the then National Congress and it was going well peacefully and the “Conscripts” were doing the peaceful nation Building business until 1998,which has been Nation Saving Policy–kudos to PIA,who insisted for it for the sake of self-defense.
      -It was Eritrea,which has been the top defender of the Ethiopian Unity,even better than the TPLF itself–History Books will witness this…
      -It was Ethiopia,which was cooking up all the evil things and doing all the provocations,harrassements,torture,etc–of the Border people(Eritreans)
      -It was Ethiopia ,which unilaterally cancelled the Econmic and Defence Agreement in 1997
      -It was Ethiopia,which deliberately changed it s currency so as to make the old multibillion Birr in the Eritean Banks
      -It was Ethiopia,which invaded Adi Murug on a day light without any provocation.
      -It was the Ethiopian Militia,who cold-bloodedly murdered 7 innocent Eritrean Officers without any provocation..
      Etc—
      You do NOT need to be an insider to know all these simple facts…..
      Remember, you are dealing with Eritreans–The interesting thing is that those who claim to be Eritreans here have kept quite while black and while lies are being spread in this forum and in this allegedlyEritrean website–what a shame,which is ok with them as long as it helps to “weed out ” PFDJ.

      • Abinet

        Hope
        Every time I read this kind of comment ,I become more happier that we are separated . You and I should work tirelessly to keep it that way as long as we are alive.
        You with me brother?
        Unity through separation!!!!

        • Hope

          Why are you here then? We have been separated for G O O D and for ever and ever—Amen!!

          • Abinet

            I am here to watch the gate in case you want to come back

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abinet, brother Abinet, you see it is all about administrating, period. what ever we do and say we can’t run from being Habesha. we are one family in two nations. what good is to be governed by one king, or leader and live in war ? See Ethiopia today, they didn’t use red sea but use blue Nile watch how much things have changed within short time inside Ethiopia. Your leadership is so smart he cares with what you have and use it. leading this much people with different ethnic groups and 80+ languages is very difficult job. but we have seen how they manage it. time will come when Eritrea will have good administration all those differences will disappear. only we are two nations but we are one family. so don’t allow people to drag you down and answer to them the way they want you to say like “I become more happier that we are separated” If I am in your place I will say – “wishing to see human being leading Eritrea I look forward peace in the region.”

            my friend DIA had a dream to be king of Ethiopia and Eritrea and he work on that, But you know Meles and Ethiopia People, so he couldn’t. it is the same way of thinking like Mengstu and Hailselase. we Habesha people don’t want unity by force. in fact we can do better by being two democratic nations.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Yodita:
    excellent!

  • SM

    Yodita,
    I am more than mesmerized more than ever and felt comfortable more than ever .
    Could not be more proud of!
    God bless you.I am happy that I have a back up sister for my brother and cousin;Saleh Younis, aka,SAAY!
    You covered what needs to be covered in few paragraphs and you made all Y’G ‘ s volumes of fallacious logic to be trashed in to unrecyclable bin for once and for all.
    I extend my sincere APOLOGY.
    for on behalf of people like Hope,who might have misunderstood you.
    I hope Hayat and Papillon will follow suit.

  • AMAN

    Dear Amde
    I thankyou for the brief explanation you gave us though I have some few reservations
    on some points it the most lucid and detailed explanation I have seen it so far about
    the period of 1991-98 of Eritrean reality which most like either to ignore or know nothing
    about. For me and hopefully others too it is an ideal peacefull and reconstraction period
    that can be achieved and a basis for any future endeavour where all grugges and bitterness
    was set aside despite so much damage and wrongdoings in the past.
    The purpose of all my writings was also to highlight that period despite its short duration
    to our citizens who were not close to home at that time or do not have first hand experience
    of it because I sometimes see gaps in their reading which goes directly from the era of Ghedli
    straight to the conflict and war and the aftermath developments as a result without the brief
    1991-1998 period. But from your reply to me I am now able to learn there is a good understanding of the period ( as you eloquently covered it) and I am content with the reply
    and coverage though I personally wish some points were read a little differently. But I will
    try to be not so perfectionist and will consider them as minor things or issues for the sake
    of moderation.
    Thankyou again
    AMAN.

  • Pappillon

    Dear T.Kifle,

    Evidently, you’ve the advantage of looking into the Eritrean prism from a rear-mirror where the rest of us “confuse” it with a blind spot. When we say, the years between 93-98 were an era imbued with a sense of hope and optimism, you say, it was a time where Isaias was rolling his sleeves up to his throat conspiring against Ethiopia. Your rationale may have emanated from the culmination of the Badme war where as they say, hindsight is 20/20. That is precisely my issue with YG where he is armed with a hindsight when the story of Ghedli is not ended yet. As I see it, we all are getting carried away as we get lost in Ghedli not when we internalize it in its true meaning but when we look into it with in a context. To be more precise, Ghedli is an abstraction for it literally means Struggle nothing more nothing less. But YG clever and a wordsmith that he is, he is selling us a narrative where Ghedli is taken for a monster of an entity defined in space and time.

    I like to bring Realpolitik, Genetic Fitness and Reciprocal Altruism into the fore so that we can find an angle where we can breathe into the “dead beat” where YG is unrelenting. Nations including Fronts see politics as a coercive where practically everything is viewed as a potential threat whereby power takes the center stage in the playing field. When Realpolitik is the very spirit of nations, nations don’t float in an ideology, instead they remain perpetually vigilant for any unforeseen eventuality. To do that however they need man power; they need to mobilize the people but in the meantime the true nature of genetics kicks in as a stumbling block.

    Humans are genetically programmed to be loyal and receptive to their respective-immediate kin as say a brother or a sister shares fifty percent of his or her genetic make up with his or her siblings. The said genetic fitness is more pronounced in altruism. That is, one is instinctively ready to help to the extent of giving up his or her own life for a sibling than for a complete stranger. That as it may, the question remains: how do nations turn (read: break) the strong ties between family members to a complete dedication, loyalty and commitment to the nation to the extent of giving a self up for a cause a nation stands for? They (nations) use force and at times brute force. YG calls it ግፋ ንመስዋእትነት warped in a negative connotation. It is a measure taken and has been attested through out history time and time again–Ghedli was never an exception either. Ghedli not of course a monster lost in YG’s narrative but a cause where its pristine nature was to bring about an independent Eritrea. And that it did with flying colours. Moreover, if an independent Eritrea was the result of the selfless dedication of the people, the story of a wounded Eritrea is an evil intention of a tyrant–Isaias Afwerki. Trying to find a link between the two in clever words is an intellectual elitism (read: dishonesty) at its best.

    Haft’kha.

    • T. Kifle

      Dear Pappi,

      You need not bother to convince me that Ghedli represents part of, probably a cardinal element, of the Eritrean pride: a value that would be a basis for reshaping Eritrean nationalism in addition to the identity emerged as a result of European colonialism. If Eritreans are happy about their Ghedli who else have the right to discount their happiness? Moreover, I have no moral background to preach that revolution is anathema to society’s well-being as YG is trying to expound. I consider myself a down-to-earth man and had the belief that Eritrean independence would be an asset to both countries: Eritreans would be happy for a dream come true and Ethiopians would feel the same as an end had been put to the most protracted and ever devastating war they had to endure for decades. Why Eritreans did want to establish an independent existence could have many answers but the fact is that they wanted to be independent. Were their decisions inspired and influenced by strategic enemies of Ethiopia? No doubt about it. was it strategically wrong to pursue at the time? I don’t believe so. Does that strategy serve the best interest of Eritrea after independence? an emphatic no. Here is where ghedli failed Eritrea. As a person closely followed EPLF over the years, I had my concerns that EPLF would be bad to Eritrea but never crossed my mind that it would be as bad as it turned out and much less a problem it would to Ethiopia.

      As to my observation, Eritrean nationalists(including EPLF, ELF and the elites) have failed Eritrea for they failed to diagnose its ailments correctly.

      1. They still hold that Dergue was defeated because of their military invincibility discounting everything else. why is this misconception wrong? Militarily, Eritrea cannot win war over Ethiopia simply for it’s geographical disadvantage and if it were to win independence, it would have been through negotiations as the people in Ethiopia would obviously question the necessity of living in unremitting war when they reach the natural threshold. This is just a nobrainer.
      2. Ethiopia is divided and weak. It wouldn’t survive a little skirmish let alone the “classic” EPLF war making.

      3. Owing to (1) and (2) they startegize that their military might would give them an edge while engaging their neighbors and especially Ethiopia. This is not my perception but a stated position of the state of Eritrea. And they spare no time to militarize the country. Ethiopia had extended advice(probably a concern) that the national service was unwarranted as Eritrea faced no strategic threat at the time from anyone. They reasoned out that Eritrea is a small country and should ready itself for any eventualities. And they did. Their economic policies were totally based on sheer arrogance counting Ethiopia as their backyard that they would dump anything and at their whim. For example: IA had to express his sadness over Mesebo Cement factory stating “ሰሚንቶ ፋብሪካ ኣብ ኤርትራ እናሃለወስ ኣብ ትግራይ ምስራሕ እንታይ አድለዮም?” Little did he know that the cement factory he was much worried about is not even enough to supply the demand of Asmara let alone Tigray.
      4. They regurgitated the Dergue’s mantra that Eritrea is the neck(lifeline) of Ethiopia and posited that Ethiopia will prostrate lest would be choked to death. They came to the conclusion that Ethiopia would comply with every demand of Eritrea. Ethnic politics, and the ports obviously would do their wonders. In case Ethiopia refuses to comply, in the most unlikely event,, the military would come in and seal the final deal.

      This was the thesis Eritreans had churned out following their independence. You would wonder what this post-independence behavior of EPLF has to do with Ghedli. Everything that had transpired in Eritrea has to do with Ghedli: One guy would propose such a “marshal plan” and every other person should give a nod whether they like it or not. Eritrean ghedlhi nurtured great degree of compliance in politics and great deal of stiffness in fighting.

      to sum up YG’s writing if anything would help reasonable minds opt some soul-searching and reflect. Some of his extreme stands would lack practicability but most of his writings on characterization of ghedli will help a lot for those who are willing to listen to the other side of the coin.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam T.Kifle,

        I like your logical argument. Your position had never changed as to the independence of Eritrea and its economic viability as a nation. Furthermore, your understanding of YG’s extreme stands that hasn’t any practicality to the “new reality” (Eritrea as sovereign nation) is quite remarkable. Any fundamental relationship between these two countries should render from the “new reality”. Believe me these two countries will coexist peacefully and mutually prosper (economically) better with the new reality, than with the past darkest era, full of bloodshed and enmity.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Salam T.kifle: You are cool, manand shall I say, more of the Meles school than of that of Asrat and Siye Group ( Just aguess, ember eidey K’kb). I find your take and temper Examplary, and on the rest, i Concur with manual Hidrat’s remarks. It’s time people to people dialogue took precedence to politicians’ rhetoric.

        • Hope

          But the power is NOT with the people but with few gangs…..What a dream;plus,do you really believe that the Ethiopians will respect the people-to-people dialog?I thought all the bluff here and all the Ethiopian websites is the opinion of the Ethiopian Public.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hello Hope : Today’s dream is tomorrow’s reality. We’ve never had a problem with the masses of Ethiopia even during the darkest moments; and conducted ourselves that way in theory and practice. You are right though the power is with the gangs; that’s why my core messages are dialogue, within or cross border. If you live abroad you can see there is no problem with people to people relations on personal level.

          • Hope

            Why then have not started/why was it hijacked ?Johar can answer this as he was part of the”Dialog”–

      • haileTG

        Selamat T Kifle

        Superb analysis (from your side of the equation). Many of the ill fated calculations you stated have a lot of truth in them (although we also have to counter balance from both sides), but I like your overall pitch here. One point I disagreed emphatically is your interchangeable use of the terms “PFDJ/IA” and “Eritreans”. Just as it is clear today, Eritreans never have had a single say in all those blunders. They begin and end with the rotten system we have as warlord and its diaspora mouthpieces. Eritreans worked and lived in Ethiopia from time immemorial and after the brief glitch of the 98/00 and what happened to the civilians there, things seem to have returned almost to normal as far as Eritreans and Ethiopian people are concerned (hgdef T’ray eyu kem qwanta teSeqilu zelo 🙂

        Regards

      • Amde

        Dear T. Kifle

        I have always thought also that Eritrea was certainly economically viable. That is what makes PFDJ’s choice to make hegemonic extortion a core economic policy so surprising. What is astounding is that even after so many years one sees no deviation from that disastrous path taken.

        Amde

        • T. Kifle

          Dear Amde,

          The whole saga boils down to the wrong sense of self. It’s EPLF’s major blind spot. They cannot see their potential opportunities, weaknesses and threats in the rational possible way. Because of that they lost everything.

    • Yodita

      Haftey Pappillon,

      From the day I first read your posts in Awate.com (Lady Arwe), you continue to blow my mind with an originality in analysis that is beyond praise! You, like SAAY, is a female “the one and only”. I can never tire enjoying and praising your brilliance and again, originality! I have to pinch myself to remind me you are a young Eritrean woman echoing my home, my pride, my aching nostalgia! How I long to meet you in free Eritrea!! Haftcki

      PS: below I paste a reply I wrote to your post in December 2012 on the same subject matter:

      My Lady,

      During the struggle, only one single man, Isayas Afewerki, had a clear road-map on every step and every angle of the journey that he would manipulate to aliment his voracious appetite for absolute power and absolute
      control which in fact continues to our day. Other plans and road-maps, if any, faded when compared to the clutch
      Isayas had. The few that saw the danger were systematically taken care of. Later on, the G15 who at long last found a unified energy to challenge him are behind bars, only those who consciously chose to align and survive do so to this day. Because from day one the struggle was hijacked by a dictator in the making, in spite of the unique and fierce determination and sacrifice demonstrated by the Eritrean people, the struggle was derailed and it was manoeuvred to miss its true purpose.

      In my view, YG says this to us: The whole Ghedli experience (which I personally believe is one of the most heroic), only served the unholy craving of absolute power of one man who used it to create the mess we are in now (not
      to mention how long it might take to put it right). YG says that there seems not to have been aclear and strongly spelled out road-map that could have guided the Eritrean people to avoid a very costly (in human lives) struggle and to achieve a genuine netsanet and harnet than we have now.
      Haftcki

  • Yodita

    Awatista Moderator.

    Through Asmarino.com (comments section of his article), YG has honoured me with a response to my comment (which found appreciation by some Awatistas and I take this opportunity to thank them all for their support and kind words). This being my ‘abode’ as Pappillon would call it, I would like to request the Awate Modertor to allow for this reply in response to some of the YG.s comments hoping that YG will read it:

    To YG: ‘Yodita, an excellent commentator’ from you, I consider it one of the most precious compliments I have ever received. Thank you.

    YG says; “Yodita says … all struggles were/are LED by elites!!!” But I don’t see how this could be used as a counter-argument against my stand, since I totally agree with her: If there is need for a revolution, then there is nobody but the elite to lead it. But what I am saying is that there was absolutely NO NEED for a revolution in the Eritrean case.”

    To start with, let me state the following obvious historical milestones that warrant that Eritrea had all the cards in place to defend the right to its nationhood culminating in its revolution:

    Eritrea was colonized by Italy for 60 YEARS!!! Eritrea’s IDENTITY was therefore further clearly defined by this colonization act that prevailed in some continents during the same era. The subsequent historical events such as the British ‘occupation’ for 10 years, the federation era (which ended by a shoddy annexation act by Ethiopia), and the birth of Ghedli for liberation, organized by Eritrea’s elites are glaring contemporary historical facts that vouchsafe THE NEED for a revolution in the Eritrean case. Ethiopia, alongside Liberia, were countries that were never colonized in Africa, save for the 5 years of fascist occupation of Ethiopia during the II WW. All other colonized countries had to muster all they can to break the shackles of colonial bondage

    Was Eritrea to ignore its identity and (1) join a country that was in deep feudal predicament with hunger and poverty rampant; (2) split into two and betray its cohesion thus, deny an identity it has come to OWN (3) take a bold and difficult step to free itself from the shackles of bondage and emerge a country of freedom and justice to itself and its surroundings, indeed to the whole mankind.

    In view of the annexation, No. 3 was the option undertaken by some of the Eritrean elites (revolutionaries). In the course of its development, before Menka’E liquidation, there were debates by some revolutionaries, which road to take: liberate Eritrea and use it as a spring board for all oppressed peoples and countries (Ethiopia as the closest) or to unite with Ethiopian similar revolutionaries and engage in a common struggle. The vision was that GREAT and NOBLE. It was the liberation of MAN and not the LAND that was crucial. EPLF kept expounding (then) that waving a flag was not its ultimate goal! It was recognized that mankind’s real enemy was UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION of wealth and opportunity (poverty and ignorance). Pretexts like countries, flags and religions, etc. were but the ‘opium’ to keep people in deep confusion and slumber so that their real predicament would remain concealed.

    To strengthen the above cardinal and eternal truth during the present time, (1) I was recently visiting one of the European
    countries and was watching a debate where it was pointed out that TEN families owned over 70% of the country’s wealth!
    I am still shocked! With this kind of distribution of wealth and opportunity, you can only have a sick world. (2) I am no economist so I cannot vouch for it, but I once read that the social democrats that governed the Nordic countries for decades in such an exemplary way, used part Marxist economy mixed with liberal politics to sustain their functional social security-based societies. A citizen can get as wealthy as his creativity can allow (like sky is the limit) and lead a corresponding rather wealthy stature and life style but a bulk of what he earns goes to provide educational, health and other social security opportunities to his country men and women. He/she becomes the beneficiary of their wellbeing BY LAW!).

    All being about the fair distribution of wealth and opportunities, some of the Eritrean revolutionaries (elites) took it upon themselves to use the fact that Eritrea’s Ghedli had a legitimate platform to claim its nationhood not only to wave a flag and bring the sham independence we have today, but to make it a hub of HARNET. Any departing point is good if your mission is to bring healing to a sick UNJUST world. That Eritrea’s sons and daughters paid with their blood and maiming to play their part; and that the grasp of the enormity of the meaning of their mission uplifted their and the people’s spirits to soar high with humane altruistic and heroic performance is contemporary history. The outstanding accomplishments that took place during the Ghedli era are as yet to be recorded in black and white, in books, plays, cinema, poetry and what have you once those who clamp its resonance leave the scene.

    Indeed inevitably, there was the other side of the coin as well (as in all revolutions), sordid cruelty and punishment but
    I am one of those who believe that our collective trait as a people has demonstrated the enormous capacity for sacrifice, hope and altruistic love. That it is betrayed and humiliated by some lesser gods does not obliterate its
    mighty imprint in history and in our hearts.

    I vehemently reject that the revolutionary Eritrean elites led the masses and went as far shedding their blood “… entirely
    inspired by their alien colonial aspirations”! I could write a book on how I personally was beyond mesmerized on the
    vision entertained at a certain point during the struggle. It made you murmur to yourself: how privileged to belong to this era and to this journey for freedom and justice! The Ghedli was what it was and did achieve victory against all odds because with all the shortcomings it resonated in the people’s and tegadelti’s bones and marrows that there was a PURPOSE worth evenlife.

    YG- reading you, I find lacking the human HIGH that went and that still is nurtured by this phenomenon. To find “ghedli virtues: discipline, valor, self-reliance,” analogous to that of the Mafia, Taliban or Nazi (phenomena I am rather well read on) is the hardest thing for me to fathom much as I have a lot of respect for your eccentric brilliance. I humbly claim to know a
    little about the Ghedli era both from a positive and negative perspective. But reading you makes me doubt if you have
    made it your business to objectively and dispassionately assess it.

    I am now being presumptuous, but my comments on your take “…Ibelieve that the Russians and the Chinese would have been in a much better shape now without the communist interruption.” , is that Russia would be at best like Poland and China at best like India, hardly superpower potentials.

    Last but not least, you say “… If she wants to find out what China would have been without Maosim, she doesn’t have to create a counterfactual situation; all she needs to do is look at Japan and South Korea; and more importantly at Taiwan (the same people, the same Confucian ethic).”

    YG – you know damn well the economic injection/infusion (a type of a Marshal Plan) that Imperialist countries poured into these very three countries to breathe life into them for cold war reasons. This assertion coming from you is surprising!

    Concluding, I detest the monster Isaias has become; I feel shame for the yes men and women my compatriots in the lead position have become but I wear the resolution and sacrifice of the ordinary fighters of EPLF, ELF and Eritrean people as a shining shield of pride and distinction. Deep in my heart, I believe we will emerge and surprise ourselves.

    • Amde

      Dear Yodita,

      I apologize for intruding in the middle of a response to YG. Thank you for the eloquent post – I actually learned some new things.

      I was inspired to write this because your phrasing “.. liberate Eritrea and use it as a spring board for all oppressed peoples and countries (Ethiopia as the closest)….. to make it a hub of HARNET….” did not sit well with me. Perhaps I am getting older and more conservative, but seeing phrasing like that rankles me and brings the saying “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” to my mind. While economic inequality was the ideological drive of the 60s/70s, the equally fervent ideological drive of today could very easily swap out “HARNET” with “Islamic Caliphate” and you could be talking about the Al Shabab.

      I find it a bit hard to believe that a typical Ghedli fighter was doing so to install the Horn of Africa chapter of Comintern, nor to visualize that a peasant who was conscripted/volunteered into the Ghedli was firing bullets in Afabet to free someone in Assella. To me it is more believable that he was firing a bullet in Afabet for abuse/mistreatment/disrespect he felt he or his family received in Akordat.

      Fighting for global economic inequality was fashionable in the 60s/70s, and the region was full of political actors who espoused essentially the same views. One can remove specific references to land or ethnic group, and Mengistu’s speeches would be indistinguishable from those of the EPLF, EPRP, MEISON, TPLF, OLF and any alphabet soup of left inspired political groups. And yet, the region found itself awash in more death and destruction. It would have been truly revolutionary for an educated person of that time to have held what we might today call “centrist” of “Conservative” views.

      One of the reasons I felt I had to respond was that when I read your phrasing of “.. liberate Eritrea and use it as a spring board for all oppressed peoples and countries (Ethiopia as the closest)….. to make it a hub of HARNET….” it came to my mind that PFDJ could legitimately justify its regional adventurism using this very phrase. My position has been that Eritrea is where it is today simply because of PFDJ’s regional hegemonic ambitions, towards which goal it is willing to sacrifice the economy, peace and the very demographic viability of the people it rules over.

      Being a member of the generation on the immediate receiving end of the good intentions, I am a little cynical about the gap between what people say was their intention, and the actual outcome of their actions. To use the modern parlance, I guess I’d say the Issayas led PFDJ is a design feature of the Ghedli, not a bug (an aberration).

      amde

  • AMAN

    I take great caution to the extent of constraining badly the message I would like to pass
    and for fear that not to burden readers and forum participants disscussing issues and solutions
    here.
    However, it is unfortunate to know that I am debating with propagandists and not debaters in
    good faith.
    But one thing I would like to ask them is this
    How would you feel and respond if Eritrea engages Ethiopia
    with the attitude Ethiopia has or is showing currently towards
    Eritrea, the people and its issues ?
    Would you still support them ? or ask for reverse logic as usuall ?
    For example without indulging to why,how or who started the conflict and war ;
    if we focus on the aftermath realities it is a continuation of enemity and war of
    the past. So how come one expect such mechanism can bring justice and peace
    for the people. Can somebody expect eggs from a cow and calf from a hen ?
    Or do you use a computer keyboard to farm the land or something loke that
    (use of so incompatible tool or mechanism for the purpose at hand)
    How is that war mechanism is the choice to build peace and justice instead of
    other way around of peace and confidence building ? It seems to me more of
    a subjugating (carrot politics) diplomacy which uses the opposite tool ,methodology
    or mechanism for peace and justice.
    Actually the last 20 years was more damaging to the societies of the two peoples
    than the 30 years of war 0f 1961-1991 due to this reason.
    Therefore, unless Ethiopian government followed the right procedure of first return
    to normal, then peace building (both in theory and practice) there cannot be called
    friendship as some confused ones call it. A friendhip requires normalization from
    enemity first before it builds and transforms itself to Friendship and to call it so.
    Based on this scale or graph where is the position of the TPLF/EPRDF now in
    relation to Eritrea ? Because I have been watching it so far for 20 years when is it
    going to reach the first bench mark which is the normalization mark (and not there yet)
    and follow through and pass the next two more before it enters the zone called
    the FRIENDSHIP zone. And never yet reached the first mark.

  • Aninet

    Ato Kifle
    God bless you ! I hope many Eritreans read your comment .
    Thanks

  • hope

    Mr Horizon,
    Negotiation on what basis and under what circumstance?
    What has Ethio-Egyptian Nile issue has to do with Eritrea?the analogy is irrelevant.
    Are you trying to disclose PMMZ’s real meaning of the Five-point plan?
    Can you clarify this?you seem to know the details of the 5-point-plan.
    Ahhh,1989-1991—status is void and null?

    • Mr. Hope,

      The late PM’s five-point plan boils down to “negotiations with the aim to promote sustainable peace and brotherly ties”. Of course, I am not the person to preconceive the full spectrum or nature of negotiations. However, I can understand what you have in mind, which is implementation of the border
      commission’s decision as it is, which of course is not negotiation by any stretch of imagination. All I can say is, despite the eebc decision, only the two people can bring sustainable peace, having in mind the present situation and future interests of both countries.

      • Hope

        That is our concern though.Why is this 5-point plan kept as “classified” or as secret?
        You are talkng about peace but at the same time putting a big E Berlin type wall in front of it.
        Not only that, you are insisting to tighten and create new sanctions while fully knowing that it is hurting the real victims–the Eritreans you are promising peace.
        And guess what?You all seem very happy with its negative impact on Eritreans as people,not just the PFDJ.
        The best solution is if you leave us alone,whohc you do NOT want to do for obvious reasons—since we are weak now,therefore–“Let us– us hit them harder until they surrender” kind of approach.
        Good luck to you but Do NOT forget history.

      • tafla

        Kbur ato Horizon,

        I’m a bit confused about all the talk about brotherly ties. I don’t think that Eritreans and Ethioipians as a people hate each other, we may differ on past and current political/historical events, but as a people, the bond was never broken despite all the wars and suffering we have brought upon each other. Whatever tension there is between the people of these two nations, I’m sure it will not take long to mend if there is a political settlement of the border between the two governments.

        So when you talk about negotations, which parties do you have in mind? Why do those negotiations have to be tied to the border ruling?

        You can read the five point peace plan below here:

        When it comes to the border ruling
        Points 1 & 4 are settled.

        Point 3 can be worked out.

        Point 2 & 5 should not be part of the peace-negotiations, because they need continous improvements and negotiations over many years and governments to come.

        1. Resolve the dispute between Ethiopia and Eritrea only and only through peaceful means

        2. Resolve the Root Causes of the Conflict Through Dialogue With the View to Normalizing Relations Between the Two Countries

        3. Ethiopia Accepts, in Principle, the Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission Decision

        4. Ethiopia Agrees to Pay Its Dues to The Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission and to Appoint Field Liaison Officers

        5. Start Dialogue Immediately with the view to implementing the Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission’s decision in a manner consistent with the Promotion or Sustainable Peace and Brotherly Ties between the Two Peoples

        • Dear tafla,

          When you talk of political settlement of the border first, to be followed by discussions to find the cause of the border conflict and ways of promoting sustainable peace and brotherly ties, it is no different from the last suggestions by Mr. Cohen et al, which as we know very well, the government of Ethiopia rejected right away. Where Mr. Cohen has failed, any discussions to that effect are completely
          futile.

          It seems that the Ethiopian government accepts only negotiations of all the points in the 5-point plan. Without solving the cause of the border war, you cannot solve the border problem, and without guaranteeing sustainable peace, not only for this generation, but for future generations as well, there will be no peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea.

          Of course, we cannot know all the points that will be included in the 5-point plan; if the Eritrean government is ready to talk on the new agenda or not, etc. May be this is the reason it is avoiding any negotiations. Unfortunately, to the disadvantage of the people, the two governments have locked horns and they are waiting who would blink first. The standstill has already lasted more than a decade; and we should not be surprised if it continues for another decade or more. It seems as if they are saying that the hardy is going to be the winner,
          which is an unfortunate situation.

          The bond between the two people was not broken not because the elites did not want it, but only because they could not break it. Nevertheless, do you believe that this bond will continue to last long? I personally doubt it, unless things change soon. Most Ethiopians are drifting away from “Eritreans the brotherly people” concept. Eritrea lives most vividly in the minds of the older generation than in the younger generation.

          With more future economic, political and social connections with Djibouti, Kenya, Sudan, SS and even Somalia, the special place of Eritrea for Ethiopia, will be undermined and become insignificant and even extinct. The new electric train
          connection between Addis and Djibouti, the port of Tajoura serving northern Ethiopia, with a railway connection with Mekele, and the port of Lamu serving Southern Ethiopia, the fate of Assab and Eritrea in future Ethiopian economy, will be sealed in
          the most dramatic way, thus cutting the bond once forever. Then, my friend, the survival of the small and third world country of 4m, will be as precarious as one can imagine, although the country is already at that point.

          • tafla

            Selam Horizon,

            Thank you for taking the time to reply, I doubt that the bond will break, because it’s about more than economics. It’s mentality, customs and much more than ports, railways and such. You made so many astonishing statements I don’t know which one to pick, I’ll just choose two.
            “the survival of the small and third world country of 4m, will be as precarious as one can imagine, although the country is already at that point.” If you think most Eritreans were planning to live of Assab revenues, jyou seriously lack insight into what the Eritrean people have gone through since 1890 and what the dream of Indepence was about.

            Don’t you think that it’s a bit dishonest to walk away from a signed agreement and then expect the snubbed side to start new negotations in good faith by unilaterally laying out a non-negotiable agenda for dialogue. It doesn’t make sense to me, it smells like the versaille between the allied powers and Germany after WW I. Nice talking to you.

        • Hope

          Mr. tafla,
          They know what they are saying and what they are doing; and we know what they know and what they are saying and doing—–
          FYI,this position—is a generic or standard position and understanding of the majority of the Ethiopians/Tigreyans led by their leaders.
          You know the cheap character of the TPLF–“-akaki zeraf “when they get a chance–
          Let time decide on it and we have to move forward and let them keep dreaming more.It is time to do our business—no need of indulging further in the past and their tricks.
          Enough,!They stabbed us twice—but we should not allow them to stab us the third time.

  • Amde

    Dear Amen,

    Forgive me, but I cannot follow you at all. If your point was that Eritreans originally engaged on the Ghedli to liberalize the ancient Ethiopian political system, but that they changed their mind towards independence due to Haile Sellasie’s intransigence – well, what can I say but it is simply a breathtakingly condescending revisionism of the highest order. YG himself was here a couple of months ago, specifically talking about the Eritrean path not taken – i.e. the option of liberalizing the Ethiopian political system as a sustainably more fruitful option for Eritrean elites to have taken, and he was (as usual) vilified for it.

    It is better to stay honest with everybody. The Kebessa Christians were gung ho on an Ethiopian Union, and the Metahit/Muslim were dead set against it. A federation was proposed and put in place as a compromise. The federation was later dissolved. Mostly Muslim/Metahit rebelled and started armed struggle for independence. The Ethiopian state, with strong support of many Kebessa Christians, engaged in a brutal counter insurgency that resulted in enflaming the situation, and making refugees of many in the lowlands. Later on radicalized Kebessa Christian youth joined the struggle for ideological reasons. Add more brutal counter-insurgency and now you have more people joining the fight not necessarily for ideological reasons but for existential reasons. And the rest is history. Am I wrong so far?

    What was special about 1989/91? Am I missing something here? By 1989, Ethiopia was a “republic” known as PDRE. The new constitution introduced the concept of autonomy. But since this was under the WPE/Derg we may dismiss it as not real. In Eritrea, the EPLF had pretty much taken over most of the land – so the military situation was pretty much wrapped up – it just needed the political groundwork of “installing” an ally/protege (take your pick) to provide itself with the best condition for independence. This happened in 1991. So as far as I could tell 89/91 just represents the apex of EPLF as a guerilla force – free of being responsible for the administration of the land or the people.

    Well what about 1991 – 1998? Now that my friend was the golden era of EPLF criminality in Ethiopia. Eritrea was “independent” with a wink wink nudge nudge between Meles and Issayas. It is impossible to understand 1998 without looking at EPLF/PFDJ behaviour in those intervening years. The Eritrean embassy in Addis was running a foreign currency black market racket out of its diplomatic facilities. EPLF killing squads were let loose all over Ethiopia, killing abducting anyone they wanted. Most Ethiopians felt they were third class citizens in their own country, with the TPLF (apparently or in reality) doing nothing more than fulfilling the wishes of the Asmara bandidos. This wanton criminality was brought to an end when a new Ethiopian currency was issued. PFDJ got mad and invaded Badme. And the rest – as they say is history. As much as “Eritrea” got its independence from Ethiopia in 1991, believe me when I tell you most Ethiopians got their independence from Eritrea in 1998 – and no Ethiopian I know wants to go back to those years. None.

    The more I think about it the more I don’t understand your statement “..any negotiation between the two countries should base itself to the situation of 1989/91 …” Are you saying that the Eritrean side should “re-negotiate” the terms of Eritrean independence AGAIN? It is kinda surreal. Why not 1984? 1962? Heck why not 1950? The reality is that any negotiation between Ethiopia and Eritrea will occur based on the realities of the time they are taking place – be it 2014, 2020, or 2025. (My money is on 2020 – how about that?)

    I find it fascinating that no Eritrean wants to understand exactly what happened in the 1991 – 1998 years. Those were not independent years – those were nominally independent years where Eritrea was politically independent but existed economically on the largesse of TPLF’s kindness and the efficiency of its mafia operations within the Ethiopian economy. Any mention of it devolves into a bizzaro world of discussing some map or other representing Abbay Tigray (map-making is a hobby for thousands today), about some border mischief that supposedly happened in 1997 that PFDJ failed to inform the world community about, about some things that should have been signed but weren’t, about the angelic nature of Melles otherwise thwarted by the devilish nature of Siye/Gebru ad nauseum. You put them together and you get very weak tea. The reality is that EPLF behaved as if TPLF would be its biyatch forever, and then the biyatch decided to strike out independently, and like a good abusive husband whose pride is hurt, PFDJ was gonna kick ass and show her who was boss. Because – by God – kicking ass and showing who was boss is what PFDJ is all about – witness its adventurism in the region since then.. kicking ass and showing who was boss in Somalia, Sudan, Djibouti, Chad, Congo, South Sudan…..

    As to the old “if it wasn’t for the Eritrean struggle Ethiopia would not be the democratic nirvana of Jeffersonian democracy it is today”, please spare us the fantasy, and stop flattering yourself. The truth is the Ethiopian parliament saw more open debate during Haile Sellasie’s time than anytime since. While political parties were not allowed, there was more honest competition for parliamentary seats. That is a fact. Haile Sellasie could be criticized for many things, but he was gradually liberalizing the political system within the bounds of tradition and the socio-economic reality of the country. Was a revolution inevitable? – Perhaps. But for sure, when judged on the arc of 40-50 years we are talking about, Eritrean insurgency was terribly bad for the path of political liberalization Ethiopia could have taken. It radicalized the youth. It constantly bled-off meagre resources the country could have invested in education and civic participation. It scared off investment. It gave the upper hand to those who advocated hard-line and military actions, eventually leading to a junta which inevitably (as the saying goes – to a hammer every problem looks like a nail) led to seeking a military solution to a political problem. It forced the country to fall into the Soviet camp. It ended up installing a strange political system of ethnic dictatorships. On pretty much all factors, Eritrean insurgency was a major net negative for Ethiopia. There is a fundamentally good reason why Ethiopia, with all its warts and all, is making good progress today – because on a systemic level, the Eritrean insurgency has been removed as a public policy factor.

    amde

    • abinet

      Selam Amde
      l am really surprised you responded to him.He stuck in 1998. What is funny is that we try to forget those years while Eritreans cherished them.

      • Amde

        Dear Abinet,

        I am not responding to him per se. But there were a couple of points I thought were important, especially seeing some recent posts.

        One was this apparent unwillingness by Eritreans (in my mind at least) to explore what happened 91 – 98, and thus understand the circumstances of how and why the Badme war happened. To my mind, that would be key to understanding why Eritrea is where it is today without delving into the Ghedli history. To me it says everything about the true nature of PFDJ. There was a lot of wink wink nudge nudge that ended up killing too many people. That arrogant bellicosity of PFDJ that sparked the Badme war is what is killing off the generation of young Eritreans, and depopulating the land.

        The other was actually this whole argument that Ethiopia’s political system owes where it is today to the “sacrifices” made by the EPLF. This is one of those arguments I find grotesque and needs to be nipped in the bud. Perhaps what they mean is that the EPLF was instrumental in getting rid of the Derg. I would argue part of the reason for how the Derg ended up the way it was would be the constant insurgency it faced in Eritrea. But beyond that, to argue Ethiopians should be grateful of the Ghedli because it brought political liberalization – please spare me. No – they didn’t intend to do it FOR us, and they most definitely did NOT do it for us – it is better to say they did it TO us. Imagine what 40 years of peaceful political evolution could have gotten Ethiopia. That is what the Ghedli cost Ethiopia (beyond the economic and human costs that is). Not to say that peaceful political evolution was guaranteed, but for sure the Ghedli’s contribution in Ethiopia’s political evolution is completely negative.

        Then there is the variant articulated by those whom I’d charitably call Melles groupies who want to tell us Ethiopia is where it is today due to the wisdom and intelligence of this super being who brought enlightenment to the poor unwashed masses from the Mereb to the Wabi Shebelle. Please, Melles bears a lot of responsibility for the wink wink nudge nudge that erupted in the disastrous war. Wasn’t he the one who claimed that an evening with Issayas was worth more than a library of books? And the political system he left in place can be accurately described as a federation of dictatorships – in a country of 100 million people, there is not one qebele that is administered by an opposition party. Are we supposed to be grateful for that?

        It is up to Eritreans to decide if the fruits of Ghedli are what they wanted, but please leave us the courtesy of deciding for ourselves how the fruits of Ghedli taste to Ethiopians.

        amde

        • abinet

          Dear Amde
          l agree with what you said.l have many reservations about Late PMMZ. However, one thing I agree with him is that we are better off without Eritrea. I came to this conclusion very late. I was one of those people who say eritrea wey mot.nanymore.

          • abinet

            Please read the last sentence as” not anymore. “This is what happens when you write and walk a dog at the same time.
            Thanks

        • hoope

          Selective memory and political and intellectual bankruptsy and acrobatism?
          Can you elaborate more on the other issues like the torture of the Eritreans in the border,the new Abay Tigray Map and the issue of Adi Murug and its implications?
          you may tirck people like Kim Hana and some other naive people in this forum.

    • Kim Hanna

      Dear amde,
      Thank you amade for saying what needed to be said. Sometimes I wonder if Aman and others like him really believe what they write. (sometimes I think they make it up as they type)
      Regardless, we are lucky to have capable people like you to set the record straight.
      A million thanks.
      K.H

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Amde,

      Please stay active in this forum. Your input will enhance to the maturity of our debate, elevate the understanding between the two people, and attract/pull others to an intellectual debate to change the face of the Horn countries in a positive way..

      • hope

        Emma,
        Good point but there should be honesty and reason.at the same time,Emma, as an Eritrean,you have an obligation to challenge few points that the intruders are making.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Mr. Hope,

          Remember we are not here to win debates. We are here to understand each other and with that to make a fundamental change to our country and by extension to the horn countries. I am not worried about the so called “intruders”, Just focus on the big picture of our nation in conjunction with the region on how to bring peace and tranquility. As ghezae Hagos has said it “reconcile with the past” and move on how to make present and the future better than the past. Just watch the matured debate of some of our active participant of this forum, that is where you could count on them.

          Hawka,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Hope

            Ahlen Emma,
            I agree but to get where we want,the debate should follow some basic common sense principles and guidelines.
            What I hear is that since Ethiopia is on the stronger side and Eritrea is on the weaker side,then Eritrea should give up by any means—-rather than talking about mutual compromise and acceptable and reasonable —-rational.that is where my point is .
            Our hatred of PFDJ should not lead to compromising the Sovereignty and National Interest of Eritrea.
            I see the same posture and rhetoric by our neighbors—about PIA and they are pointing their fingers at him and you seem a happy camper.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Hope,

            Just chill down. There is no Eritrean who stand against the interest of his/her country. Period. All what you see is politicking to undermine each other. Believe me. There is no substances on the accusations. Let us clean our political house, instead of agitating ourselves what some individuals across the river have said. Take your principle the concept of “mutual respect and mutual economic development”. Once you anchor on that belief, do not wobble by what others say. Fight for that noble “mutual relationship” knowing there are individuals on both sides who resist the idea and you will see them chanting their arrogance in this forum. You don’t have to answer to any nonsensical argument. Argue with those who are sensible debaters with sensible argument despite you could have difference with them.

          • Semere Andom

            Salamat Emma:
            Of course there are Eritreans against the interest of their country: starting from dictator Isaias. Your advice for tempering our tone is commendable, but there should be basic or lowest common denominator. The PFDJ supporters like Hope and dawit (small time) and Nitricc do not even acknowledge the root of everything that ails Eritrea, they do not even have respect for the refuges and accuse the kids who perished crossing the border with impatience. These people and the PFDJ are against the interest of the people of Eritrea. What you are talking about is, like when two extreme political opponents like the TEA party and democrats for example, while they all have the best interest of America they differ on what path to follow to accomplish that. In our case is a fight between evil and good. PFDJ and its minions who are insulting the refugees and kids who died in search of their parents are disgrace and are definitely against the nation and people of Eritrea. While tempering our tone when debating those who differ with us is noble and Sal reminded us on several occasions are you are rightly doing it now, these people like Hope and dawit and Nitricc have a messed up serotonin transporters and they are our budding psychopaths from their lack of compassion to the perished kids and the poor refugees

            Sem

          • hope

            Serm,
            You seem to be out of touch here…No body insulted any one.You just wants all things your own way.
            I cannot speak for others but since you are generalizing things,in my understanding,what the TEA Party of Eritrea is saying that our Youth and kids should be cautions and should be able to make a rationaldecision.There is no war—-but just a bad system.If they are risking their lives simply because they cannot got to school or are not gettinhg good jobs,then it is a bad choice.
            You are blowing things out of common sense.
            We are talking reasonably now,not emotionally.
            We also know why people are going to Ethiopia,the Sudan and Yemen.Just to go to the “Midrawi Ghenet “—of the West—to have a better life.
            That is the main thing.The PFDJ factor is NOT the MAJOR factor,if we have to be rational.
            There is nothing perfect and we are comparing and contrasting: Risking your life to death vs living a bad life under PFDJ.

          • Semere Andom

            Why is that during the Derg reign when Eritreans were fleeing their country in way less numbers than now, we called it political issue and now we call it economic issue. Calling the kids who perished crossing the border as impatient and looking for paradise is in par with what DIA said about the disabled when they asked for modest improvement of their daily lives. You cannot sit here in your comfy west and pontificate that the young slaves for PFDJ and for diaspora snow birds. That is what I am saying
            Sem

          • Hope

            Aheln Semere Andom(if I knew you were a Kerenite,I would have—–)
            I made my point clear and you seem to have understood me but it is your choice to make something out of it.
            The dergue vs PFDJ era—issue is different.Let us be fair and reasonable,not emotional.You know exactly the facts.
            I would call it mainly econmic but partially political due to the poor policy and lack of Constitutional Governance.
            But in NO way,one could deny the Ethiopian/Weyane Factor as well,unless you are the Student of Haile the “G”.
            I am saying that the contributing factros are multiple,not just PFDJ factor.
            To make things crystal clear :
            If we are in NO War and NO Peace status and there is a crippling sanction on top of the bad Policy and lack of Constitutional Governance,what do you expect?
            As much as the problems are multifactorial, the apporach for the solutions for the problem should be multidirectional.
            I know we rae talking politics since we hate PFDJ but if we have to debate honestly,reasonably and rationally, and for a real solution,then all things should be considered rationally, reasonably and realistically–not just emotionally and politically.
            And this is my long standing firm position,wether you call me a PFDJ supporter or a confused person.

          • Yodita

            Kbur Semere Andom,

            Although the efforts Amanuel Hidrat puts to recuperate ‘lost souls’ is noble and responsible, I just want to record that I fully agree with your post above because there seems to be no amount of tragedy to make them flinch and reflect on their staunch support of DIA and PFDJ. They do not seem to be in quest for truth rather in a mercenary type labour to affirm and stress on a glaringly dead issue. I read them only to see if there is any dialectics in their thinking and sadly find them ‘hardcore’ diehards. PITY!!

          • Hope

            Yodita,
            There is no partial truth but Full truth,to my best of knowledge.-You cannot conveniently pick “some truth” and hide the other truth.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ahlen Sem,

            I understand your concern. It is well taken. The enemy of our young is the regime. No doubt about that. My point (message) was directed for our fellow Eritreans like “hope” and many others who oppose the regime but differ from us on how to bring change and live at peace with our neighbor countries. I believe we have the responsibility to make them hold their ground against the regime without aggravating the differences we have as well as to create conducive environment for mutual relationship with our neighbors.

            Hawka,
            Amanuel H.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam Semere and welcome back Hope,
            Hope, I called for your stay yesterday, and I am glad you are staying. So, for ( መለሀይና ሰመረ፡ ወድ ከረን ምን እንታ ላትግራይት ሰኒ ተኣምራ ትገቢእ), that, I sensed from you recent installment. I think Hope has a point in raising the fact that the trend is ” get rid of Issayas at any cost, then everything will just be fine.” Remember: we were lead to believe once we got rid of Mengistu, Eritrea would be the land of liberty and abundance. Had we prepared ourselves prior to independence ie getting a political wing, nurturing the culture of good governance…we would have an empowered citizen, the leash/check for wanna-be-dictators (please see the end of yesterdays comment I made in Tigrgna in response to Ermias)…therefore, it is equally important we scrutinize the opposition if we want it to be healthy. For instance, I do not advocate for a violent change/revolution, we have seen the resul of it, so no need to think its result could be different this time. I don’t fool myself that with the current militant attitude of the opposition, it could usher democratic climate once it deposes hgdf; you can’t taut kelashin and sing democracy. Say, you got rid of hgdf, who do you think will win in the absence of civic duty culture? It will be the notorious AK-47. tHAT DOES NOT STIMULATE OUR APPETITE TO FOLLOW ONCE AGAIN EMPTY SLOGANEERING HOPING THAT ONCE WE DID THIS THEN THAT WOULD COME. Eritrean soil has claimed more life than would be appropriate. Enough of militancy; we need to come to our senses, let’s dialogue. Let’s do away with the culture of gun. Any party that seizes power through the barrel of gun will require you to remove it the same way it came to power. History has not been ignorant on this point. It has plenty of revolutionaries turned dictators in its files. Any one who cares for the country at this point should push for dialogue and reconciliation. Militant attitudes and confrontation make a point: your endeavor to rally people has failed. What I have been witnessing is this, Brother: you have an opposition that has no popular base, and based in Ethiopia. I have no problem with headquartering in Ethiopia; but you have to have a popular appeal and support, particularly from within. If the change is for Eritrea, the subjects are the ones living in Eritrea; they should be the ones bringing change unto themselves, ours is just a catalyst one, unless you are talking about overthrowing the government by a force organized and financed by, you know it. Well, doing that could either mean imposing another revolutionary dictatorship, or an out right mercenary feat. What the opposition says and does greatly affects the possibilities of domestic or organic change which is the most desirable one. If the opposition plays a role model in conducting itself democratically, and stop labeling every hgdf member as “Zombie” and opens a mature dialogue and decent disposition, stand for what is national interest under the toughest situation (tell Ethiopia publicly it can not play friend and enemy at the same time and that mutual interests could only be dealt with among equals), stop condoning cross border raids on EDF UNITS WHICH ARE MANNED BY POOR NATIONAL SERVICE KIDS, ( You may have read the AFAR RED SEA communique stating it had killed members of an Eritrean reconnaissance post to avenge an Eritrean Navy attack on crossing Afari youths). What are they avenging? Aren’t the blood they are spilling Eritrean? Of course, these questions are for them. I read similar communiques from other armed organization which make their bases Ethiopia and depend for existence on Ethiopia. Look now: and one of the reasons Ethiopia gives as to why the embargo should be placed and continued on Eritrea is because Eritrea supports insurgencies against neighbors. It’s funny.The reason why the opposition is held hostage by Ethiopia is it lacks Eritrean life line/support, other wise it would stood on both feet and would earn respect from its host. The reason why it has not earned support, even from the disgruntled Diaspora is because it is acting, if it is attacking Eritrea fro Ethiopian soil, as an agent of Ethiopia; or it is seen or perceived as an agent of Ethiopia if it does not align itself with the mainstream Eritrean stand on those issues.

          • haile

            ሰላም ሓው ማሕሙድ

            ንሰላማዊ ፍታሕ ጸገም ኤርትራ ኣመልኪትካ ዝተንተንካዮ ብሓቂ ብሩህ እዩ። እቲ ትንታኔ ጽቡቕ መበገሲ ባይታ ይሃልዎ እምበር፡ ሓደ ሓደ ሃጓፍት ካብ ክውንነት ከምዘፋትሕዎ ንዕዘብ። ሓቂ እዩ፡ ኣብ ዓዲ ስደት ኣራጢጡ ዝወራዘን፡ ኣብ ግፍዒ መከራ ከምሕሱም ዝጽፋዕ ዘሎን ሓባራዊ ርድኢትን ርእይቶን ክህልዎም ኣይክእልን። እዚ ብዘይግድስ ግን፡ እቲ ደገፍ ንከይህብ ተዓንቂጹ ዝበሃል ዘሎ ደምበ መስቀጥቲ፡ ንምንታይ ብገዛእ ርእሱ ዘይለዓዓል? ንሕና ንሱ ምባል፡ መርኣያ ዘይስጡም መንፈስ ተቛወምቲ ክበሃል ይከኣል’ዶ? እንድሕር ኣገባብ ቃልሲ ናይ ሓደ ሸነኽ ዘይተዋሕጠሎም፡ ብኻልእ ምፈተኑ፡ ንሱ ከምዘይኮነ እቲ ጸገም ግን ንእግሪ ተከል ሕጻን እውን ብሩህ እዩ። ካልእ ድማ “ንሰላም እግሪ ትኸዳ” ዝበሃል ብሂል ቀዳሞት ኣሎ። ኢትዮጵያ ስልኳታት ገይራ፡ ደቂ ዓፈር ኤርትራውያን ቀቲሎም፡ ወዘተ ዝኣመሰለ ተሃዋሲን ኣሰካፍን ኣካይዳ፡ ሰንኮፍ እዩ። ብዛዕባ ወታሃደራዊ ወፍርታት ኣብ ዶባት ኢትዮ-ኤርትራ ብቁዕን ብመርትዖ ዝተሰነየ ጭብጢ ዘይብልካ፡ ናብ ሓፈሻዊን፡ ተነቃፍን ትዕዝብትታት ምድያብ፡ ንዝንቡዕ ትንተና፡ ሓደገኛ ምስሊ ዘትሕዝ ጥራይ እዩ። ሰላም ምትምናይ፡ ብዋጋ ካልኦት ምስ ዝኸውን፡ ካብ ኣሽካዕላል ዝሓልፍ ኣይኮነን። ዘተ ምስ መን? ኣብ ምንታይ ባይታ? ንምንታይ ዕላማ? መን ዝሳተፎ? ብምንታይ ቅርጽን ውደባን? ዝኣመሰሉ በዳህቲ ኣዕኑድ ጎሲኻ ምሕላፍ ንምንታይ ተደልየ? ቃልሲ መርኣያ መረረን ወጽዓን እዩ። እዚ ድማ መሰረታዊ ናይ ምንባር ፈተነ እዩ እምበር፡ ካብ ውሑስ ኣከባቢ ናይ ስደት ኮይንካ ኣውሪድካን ኣደይብካን ትኸዶ ኣይኮነን። ኣብኡ ናይ ምሕጋዝን ዘይምሕጋዝን ተራ ክህልወካ ይኽእል፡ ኣብ ናይ ካልኦት ሰባት ናይ ሕይወትን ሃገርን ኣድሕን ስጉምቲ ግን ተጋባኢ ክትከውን ምፍታን፡ ምስሉይነት እዩ። ብመንጽር ጎዳጉዲ ዒራ-ዒሮ፡ ኣጽምእ በረኻ ሊብያን ሲናን፡ ከርሲ ማእከላይ ባሕሪን ካላኦት ዞና ትያትሮታት ጥፍኣት ኤርትራውያን፡ ዝምዘን ኣገባብ ቃልስን፡ ብናይ ዘይጠለለ ሓበሬታታት ዝዘቕበበ ውልቃዊ ርእይቶታት ዝብገስ ናይ ኮን ደኾን መደረታትን ብሚዛንን ሞራላውን ርትዓውን ስነ-ሞጎትን ብማዕረ ክረኣዩ ኣጸጋሚ’ዩ። ሰላም ንዓኻ።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            ሰላም ሃይለን and Hope

            I told you Hope help was on
            the way, now that you heeded calls by bro. Amanuel Hidrat and tes and me; this
            time we will do it the right way, OK,( ጸርፍን ዘለፋን ዘይብሉ፡ ናይ ዓበይቲ ምጉት) ።
            ሕጂ ናብ ሃይለ።

            ክቡር ኣቶ ሃይለ፡ ተረዲኣካ ኣለኹ። ኣነ ድሌተይ እቲ ተቃውሞ ብትሕዝቶን ኣካልን ክበስልን ክዓብን እዩ። ኣብ ሂወተይ
            ሓንሳብ ነጸላይ ጠቕሊለ ናብ በረኻ ሃፍ ኢለ እየ። ኣጋጣሚ እቲ ጉዕዞ ነዊሕን ኣድካምን ኣብ ልዕለይ ከቢድ በሰላ ዝገደፈን ይኹን
            እምበር ሽቶኡ ወቒዑ። ንምንታይ ደኣ ኣብዚ ዘለናዮ ኩነታት ኣለና? ኣነን ንስኻን ኩሉ ተጋዳላይ ኤርትራን ህዝቢ ኤርትራን ንሕመሎ።
            ህግድፍ ስናዕ ናትና እዩ። ኣብዚ ደረጃ ክበጽሕ ዝኸኣለ ንቑሕን ሓያልን ዜጋ ስለዝወሓደ እዩ። ነቶም ኣብ ፈንጠዝያ ከለና ብዛዕባ
            ክመጽእ ዝኽእል ሰበብ ናይቲ ኣስኪሩና ዝነበረ ኩነታት ተዘኻኽሩን ዋጋ ትኸፍሉን ዝነበርኩም መጐስ ይግበኣኩም።
            ኣነ ዝብሎ ዘለኹ ከኣ ነቲ ናይቲ ግዜ ጌጋ ክንደግም የብልናን። ንህግድፍ ምቅዋም ማለት ልኡም ሰዓቢ ናይ ዝኾነ ተቃዋሚ
            እየ ዝበለ ኩን ማለት ኣይኮነን። ልኡም ሰዓብነት ኣብ ህግድፍ ትቃወም እንተኰይንካ እሞ “ ሳኽራማት/ዕቡዳን ወይ (zombies) ትኸሶም እንተደኣኰንካ (ንስኻ ማለት ኣይኮንኩን፣ ሓፈሻዊ ከምኡ
            ዝጽሕፉ PhD title ዝሓዙ ሰባት ርእየ ኣለኹ) ነቶም ልኡማት ሰዓብቲ ተቃውሞ እውን zombies ክትብሎም ኣለካ።ካልእ
            ነጥቢ፡ ናይ ህዝባውነት ወይ ህዝባዊ ሰረት ዘለዎ ድዩ ኣይኮነን እዩ እቲ ሕቶ። ህዝባዊ ሰረት እንተለዎ ናይ ምግባር ናጽነት ኣለዎ።
            ሰውራ ኤርትራ ዘክር፣ ወላ ናይ ደገ ጸቕጥታት የጋጥሞ እንተነበረ፣ ህዝባዊ ሰረት ስለዝነበሮ ናጽነቱ ኣይሸጠን። ሱዳን ክዓጽወና
            ክጓየ ከሎ “ ቀስበን ዓነክ/ ፍቶ ጽላእ” ይበሃል ነይሩ። ምኽንያቱ ካብ ሱዳን ዝሕይል ሰራዊት ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ፡ እቲ ሰውራ ህዝባዊ
            ሰረት ነይርዎ። ሕጂ ናብ ተቃውሞ ንምጻእ። ሕራይ ኣብ ኤርትራ ናይ ምውዳብን መሰልካ ምሕታትን የለን። ኣብዚኣ ንረዳዳእ ኢና- ማለት መንእሰያትና ቀጥታዊ ረገጻ ህግድፍ ይኹን ፖሊሲታቱ ከፊእዎም ይነፍጹ ከምዘለዉ ኣየካትዕን። እቲ ቀጥታዊ ረገጻ ፍሉጥ ኮይኑ፡ እቲ ፖሊሲታት ድማ መጻኢ መንእሰይ ዘጸልምት ኩሉ የጠቃልል። ስለ’ዚ፡ መንእሰያትና
            ካብ ኤርትራ ንደገ ምውሓዞም ምኽንያታት ትረኽበሉ ኢኻ። እቲ ጸገም ካብቲ ኣብ ኢትዮጵያ ዘሎ ደምበ ተቃውሞ እውን ይነፍጹ ኣለዉ። ዝበዝሑ ኣብ ሳሃራን ሜዲተራንያንን ዝሃልቁ ዘለዉ ካብ ኢትዮጵያ፡ ካብቲ ተቃውሞ ዘለዎ ከባቢ ዝፈልሱ እዮም። ኣብዚ መጺኦም እውን ኣብ ደምበ ተቃውሞ ክዓስሉ ኣይንርእን ኣለና። ስለምንታይ? ሓደ ዕቱብ ተቃዋማይ ስለምንታይ ኢሉ ክሕትት የብሉን። ስለምንታይ ኢለ ዝበጻሕክዎ መደምደምታታት እዩ። I have not reached to a point I declare it dead; I don’t have conclusive evidence; I do hesitate to believe I have that right to say so. However, its anemic state needs attention. ግን ገለገለ ተስፋታት ኣሎ። ሕጂ መንእሰያትና፡ንህግድፍን ልምዳውያን ተቃወምትን ኣደብ ዘትሕዝን ኣሰራርሓኦም ብነቐፌታዊ ዓይኒ ክርእዩ ዘኽእሎም ኣገባብ ይፈጥሩ ኣለዉ። “ ንሕና ኢና እቲ ሓይሊ፡ ካድረታት ውድባት ዘይኮኑ፡ ህዝቢ እዩ ነቲ መርኢት ዘካይድን ኣብኡ ቀንዲ ተዋሳኣይ ዝኸውንን” ዝብል ፈተነታት እርኢ ኣለኹ ። ኣብ ገሊኡ እውን ተዓዲመ ነይረ። ጽቡቕ ኣንፈት ርእየ ኣለኹ። ናጻ ዝኾነ ምትእኽኻብ ይፈጥሩ ኣለዉ። እዚ ነቲ ተቃውሞ ህዝባዊ ይገብሮን መራሕቲ ተቃወሞ ዝረኽብዎ ዝነበሩ ደረት ኣልቦ ሜዳ (blank check) ስለዝጸብብ ሕሳቦም ክገብሩ ይደፋፍእ። ኣካይደኦም የጽፍፉ። እዚ ድማ የሕይሎም እምበር ኣየድክሞምን። ንህግድፍ ምቅዋሞም ጥራይ እኹል ኣይኮነን። ብኣርኣያነት ስርሖምን ውድባዊ ጥዕናኦምን ካብ ህግድፍ ዝሓሹ ከምዝኾኑ ከርእዩ ኣለዉ። ኣብዚ ምሳይ ከም ትሰማማዕ እፈልጥ እየ።
            እቲ ካልእ፡ “ጎነጽ’ዶ ሰላም” ዝብል እዩ። ሰባት ከላሽን ከወጣውጡን “ክተት” ክብሉ ክሰምዕን flash back ይመጸኒ። እቲ ግናይ በሰላ እኮ ኣብ ስደትን ኣብ ጽቡቕ ቦታ ወላ እንተኣራጠጥካ ኣይገድፈካን እዩ። ናይ ባዕልኻ ተመክሮ ይህልወካ ይኸውን ሃይለ፡ ግን ኲናትን ባህሊ ጠበንጃን ብሱሩ ክነወግዶም ሓላፍነት ኣለና። ከምቲ ኣብቲ መንቀሊ መልስኻ ኰይኑ ዘሎ ርኢቶይ ዝበልክዎ፡ ብከላሽን ስልጣን ዝሓዘ ከላሽን ጥራይ እያ ተውርዶ። እዚ ድማ ኣዕናዊ ዝኾነ ደማዊ ኩዳ (cyclical bloodshed) እዩ ዝፈጥር። ስለ’ዚ ንህግድፍ ክነቅፍ ‘መርሓባ’ ዝበሃል እንተኰይነ ንተቃወምቲ ክነቅፍ ንምንታይ ዘይተባባዕ። ርኢቶይ ብኣኡ መጠን ክትርደኣለይ እምሕጸን። እንታይ ዓይነት ለውጢ እደሊ ብከመይ ክመጽእ እምነዮ ኣብታ ብእንግሊዘኛ ዝጸሓፍክዋ ኣብሪሀዮ ኣለኹ። ስለ’ዚ በዚ ናይ ዘመንና ኣሰያይማ ኣበይ ከምዝዓልብ ጌና ኣይፈለጥኩን። (Ali Salim ዝብልዎ ቆልዓ መሽክላ ኣምጺኡ። ኣክንዲ ሓጺር መገዲ ዝህንድስ ሸኮርተት የብላ ኣሎ ሰበይ። ኣነ ግን ክሳብ ሕጂ ዝገበርክዎ ምጥውዋይ ወይ U-TRN የለን። መቶረይ ንዓመታት መሪቱ ነይሩ ሕጂ ዘይቲ ቀባቢአ እብገስ ኣለኹ። ዓሊ ሳልም እውን ዘሊሉ-ዘሊሉ ኣብቲ ዝነበርክዎ ዓሪፉ። ክሓቶ እንተዝኽእል “ ንምንታይ ደኣ እዚ ክሉ ተዓብ” ምበልክዎ። ካልእ ኣብቲ ዝጠቐስካዮ ናይ ጥጡሕ ቦታን ፡ ኩነታት ሃገረይ እከታተል እየ። ንውሓት ግዜን ቦታን ብዙሕ ለውጢ ኣየምጸአን። ካባይ ንላዕሊ ሓበሬታ ኣይህልወካን ማለት ግን ኣይኮነን።
            ብዛዕባይ ዝበልካዮ ትንተና ክሓልፎ እየ፣ ስለዘይፈልጠካ። ካብ ጽሑፋትካ ክመሃር ግን ቅሩብ እየ።ሓው ሃይለ፡ ዘስካሕክሕ ኩነታት
            መንእሰያትና እዩ ክጽሕፍ ዝደረኸኒ። ዘላቂ መፍትሒ ክርከብ ድማ እጃመይ እገብር ኣለኹ። እቲ ዝጠቐስካዮ ናይ ዔላ ዕሮን ካልእ ኣብያተ
            ማእሰርትታት እፈልጦን እከታተሎን እየ። ሓደ ካብቲ ብዓንተብኡ ካብ ህግድፍ ነብሰይ ክግልል ዝደፋፍኣኒ እቲ ኣብ ልዕሊ እቶም ከም
            ኣርኣያ (role model) እና ረኣኹዎም ዝዓበኹ መራሕቲ ዝተገብረ በደል እዩ ( ንሱ ጥራይ ግን ኣይኮነን)። ስለ’ዚ፡ የሕዝነኒ እዩ። እቶም ዝተረፉ ኣብ ዝሓጸረ ግዜ ደሮንኦም ክነግፉን ኣብራኾም ከወሳውሱን ደቆም ክርእዩን ተስፋ እገብር። ፍትሒ ዝነገሰላ ዓዲ ክርኢ ተስፋይ እዩ። ስለ’ዚ ልክዕ ከማኻ እጃመይ እገብር ኣለኹ። ንኩሉ ፖለቲካዊ ምንቅስቃሳት ብነቐፌታዊ ዓይኒ ምጥማትን ሃናጺ ርኢቶታት ምቕራብን ሓደ ካብኡ እዩ። ሓንሳብ ተጋጊና ኢና። ካልኣይ ግዜ ክጋጌ ቅሩብ ኣይኮንኩን። ነቐፌታ የሕይል እምበር ኣየማስነካን እዩ። ኣብታ ዝመለስካላ ርኢቶይ ኣብ ህግድፍን ተቃውሞን እንታይ ዓይነት ስትራተጅን….ከብረሆ ፈቱነ።
            እዚ ሓፈሻዊ ዝምረሓሉ መተከላት እዩ። ኣነን ንስኻን ኣበይ ደኣ ኢና ንፈላለ? ወላ ፍልልያት እንተለና፡ ናይ ኣቀራርባ ወይ ስልቲ እምበር ስትራተጅያዊ ወይ መሰረታዊ ኣይኮነን። ስለ’ዚ፡ ኣብ ሓደ ዳስ ክነጽልል ንኽእል ኢና ሃይላት።

          • haile

            ሰላም ሓው ማሕሙድ፡

            ምስ ፍረ-ነገር ሓሳባትካ ተረዳዲኤ፡ ኣይተረዳዲኤ ብዘይግድስ፡ ካብ ሓልዮትን ሓቀኛ ፍቕሪ ህዝብን፡ ሰናይ ምንዮትን ተበጊስካ ትዛረብ ምህላውካ፡ ሕጂ አናበርሃለይ ይመጽእ ኣሎ። እንታይ ይገበር። ሎብዘበን ሸቃጦን፡ ደላሎን በዚሖም ቁሊሕ፡ ምሊሕ እናበልካ ዝኽየድ ኮይኑ ኤርትራውነት ማለት። ብሓቂ ዘሕዝን ውድቀት። ኣብቲ ጎነጻዊ’ዶ ሰላማዊ ኣገባብ ቃልሲ ዝብል ክንምለስ። እነ ደኺመ’ለኹ እሞ፡ ኩሉኹም ኣዕርፉ ኢልካ ዘረባ ሕጂ እውን ኣይግድን። ገድላዊ ቃልሲ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዝሓንጸጾም መደባት ዕዩ ብዘይ እንከን ጎዶሎ ኣዐዊቱ እዩ። ብክላሽን ይኹን ብስላዕ፡ ስርሑ ብጽፈት ዛዚሙ እዩ። እቲ ቃልሲ ንሉኣላዊ ሓርነትን ግዝኣታዊ ሓድነትን ኤርትራ እዩ ነይሩ። እሞ እንታይ ስለ ዝጎደለ ድ’ኣኒ ክላሽን ይሕመ? ኣይጎደመ። ኣይመረተ፡ ሃገር ግን ንዋናታት እምበር’ዩ ዘረከበ። ቃልሲ ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያ ድማ ንደሞክራስያዊ ልዕልና ሕጊን፡ ካብ ድሕረትን ጭኮናን ሓራ ምኽዋን ነይሩ። ሃብሮመይ ክላሽን ድማ ነቲ ቅያ እውን ውዒልዎ። ሕማቕ ሰብ እምበር ሕማቕ ክላሽን የሎን። እዚ ህግደፍ ድማ ቀደም መሽሚሹ እዩ፡ ብዙሕ ዘህልኽ እውን ኣይከውንን። ህዝቢ ኤርትራ፡ ብፍላይ ኣብ ስደት፡ ካብ ሓላፍነት ካብ እንቦክር ነዊሕ ኣሎ። ኣብዛ ሕማቕ ሰዓት ድማ ምስምሳትን፡ ስረኻ ፈቲሕካ ህድማ ዕቡያትን ይነፍስ ኣሎ። ጎኒ ጎኑ ድማ እቲ ክኽፈል ዝግብኦ ዋጋ ኣንዳዕዲዕም ዝፈልጡን ክኸፍሉ ድልዋት ዝኾኑን ኣለዉ። ኣብ ገሊኡ እዋናት፡ ኤርትራዊ ሰብኣይ መድሕና ዝኾነ ሰበይቲ ኣይውረድ ዝበሃለሉ ኩነት ኣሉ። ዘበነ ኣሉ፡ ዳም ዳም ኦሓላሉ፡ መሽጎራጉር ሲናይ’ውን ኣርኪብሉ። ጎዳጉዲ ሰፊሮም፡ ብዝተዋደቁሉን ኩሉ ዝኸፈሉሉን ህዝቦም ተጠሊሞም ዝበለዩ ጀጋኑና፡ ጸረር ጸረር ዝብላ ንብዓት ፈይ ኣቢልና፡ ምእንቲ ሰላምና (እሞ ድማ ምስ ቀታሊናን ዓማጺናን) ብኡ ኣቢልኩም ጥፍኡ ክንብሎም፡ ኣይመንገዲ ሰላምን። ዘነባብር’ውን ኣይኮነን። ደኺመ ኢሉ፡ ኣላሽ ዝበለ፡ ኩሉ ከምኡ ከምዘይጎበጠ ክርዳእ ኣለዎ። ብዓመጽ ህግደፍ ተደግዲጎም ዝዓበዩ መናእሰይና፡ ጎቦ ፈንቂሉ፡ ንገደል ዘሊሉ፡ ብትብዓቱን ሓይሉን፡ ፍትሓዊ ስርዓት ክተክል ይሸባሸብ ኣሎ። ኣይንዓንቅፎም። መንእሰይና ሎሚ ዘዋጽኦ ዝፈልጥ እዩ፡ መን ሸየጥቱ፡ መን ዓመጽቱ በሪህሉ’ዩ። ፍትሒ ዝዓበጠ፡ ከረክብ ክግደድ ናይ ግድን እዩ። ደኺመ ኢልካ፡ ዝግደፍ ኣይኮነን። ንይ ቀደም ተጋዳላይ፡ ሎሚ ስቃይን መከራን ህዝቢ ዘይስወጦ ኣዲኡ ትቑጸሮ። እዚኦም፡ ኣብ መስርሕ ዝወደቑ፡ ህዝብን ሃገርን ንመከራ ዘሳጥሑ እምበር ለባማት ወይ እውን ብናይ ቀደም ዝና ከውደኽድኹ ዝፍቀዶም ኣይኮነን። ሓቂ ሓቂ እያ፡ ኣይትኣርግ ኣይትመውት። ፍትሒ እውን ክምኡ። ስለዚ፡ ክቡር ማሕሙደይ፡ ኣለዉ ተታኹሶም ዝዕወቱ፡ ኣለዉ እውን ኣማሪሮም ብምጽወታ ክናበሩ ዝደልዩ። እዚ እዋን ድማ ናይ ምርጫ እዋን እዩ። ፈጣሪ ይሓግዝ።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam Haile: ( I’m away from Geez phonts)
            Your first sentence is more important to me. The rest is just too personal; and I chose not to judge you based on the few interactions I have had with you. I know where you stand and you do likewise; the rest is about dialogue as I tried to emphasize in my previous two comments. It is a principle, Haile, which I can’t change even if poked multiple times.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Mohmud S.

            Besides your wisdom, I am amazed on your command of Tigrigna, the richness in the vocabulary and the smoothness and metrical structure of your sentences has enormously a mesmerizing effect. I really enjoy your tigrigna comments.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Bro.Amanuel: it is a coincidence; when your comment dropped by, I was typing few words in response to Ato T.kifle, which included you. Thanks again.

          • Hope

            Shukren ya habibi.
            I agree and stand for URGENT Change but with some precuations that you eloquently addressed.
            My apology for my over-reaction and for misunderstanding you.I am learning slowly —

      • Amde

        Selam Amanuel

        Thank you for the kind words. I sometimes wonder why I bother, and paradoxically it just seems to me the more I follow the wider the chasm appears.

        It reallt pains me to see Eritreans literally leave their land. I feel nothing good can come of it and I have a sense of foreboding about it. Its funny – there is this saying yemayawqut ager aynafiqim. For a guy who has never stepped into Eritrea, I have no rational explanation as to why I care. But there a cosmic bad joke being played on us where brothers are set on each others throat generation after generation.

        Amde

    • Hope

      Do you believe that the 1991-1997 TPLF hand outs was/were enough to compensate the multibillion destruction the Ethiopian regimes caused to Eritrea and Eritreans?Your own PMMZ testified it saying that :”If we have to compensate Eritrea and Eritreans the damages caused by the former Ethiopian Regimes–is probably worth of more than a trillion USD,which Ethiopia and Ethiopians will not be able to pay back in their life time”.
      Ok.We left you alone and leave us alone.As to the economics of Eritrea,no need to lecture us.Eritrea can easily invest more than 100 billion USD in the next 5yrs only-and/–or can survie with the investment from the Ports only w/o Ethiopia, if you leave us alone..

      • Amde

        Dear Hope

        Either Melles suffered from innumeracy or you misquoted him and he really said a kajillion dollars in compensation.

        Amde

        • Hope

          But you got the point though?I could not have misquoted him— and be that or this,isn’t it a common sense fact?Are you denying that Eritrea and Eritreans lost more than that over the last 40yrs under the Ethiopian Regimes?This is not to mention the human loss and the suffering of Eritreans—more than amillion refugees,ten of thounsands of human loss…

          • dine

            nobody deny Eritrea’s lost for the last 23 years, human loss and economical loss is more than that of Ethiopia’s loss under the derg.

  • AMEN

    An Observation of some Ethiopians
    characterstics……………………………!
    In Ethiopia there is this a corrupt culture of plagiarism which is called
    Qorto Qetil (copy and paste) especially if the owner is negligent or weak
    to defend his case vigorously or where it is not common for the law to
    protect ownership of ideas and intellectuall properties like democracies
    of the west.
    Thus the one who owned the medias not only steals somebody’s historical
    facts as his own but also plagiarizes and distorts them to suit his own rule
    or beautify his kings chronicle.
    The priest writers take one Byzantine king for example Heraclius and write
    it as if the history of Lebna Dingil or Fasil without any shame of Lying. This
    culture continued down to Menelik to claim the victor of the battle of Adwa
    and feel proud about a war where he was never around. Then it continued
    to HSI to say he is the victorius leader of the 5 years resistance struggle
    against Italians and claimed he was the one evicted Italians without shame
    again……….this culture goes down to claiming Zeray Deres, Moges Asghedom,
    Abraham Deboch,,,then Martha, ELF and EPLF struggle as their own and
    then keeping the trend TPLF wants to claim EPLF history as its own.
    What a plagiarists and twisters Ethiopia has as writers !!!
    DO NOT MAKE ME GO TIT FOR TAT WHEN I OVERLOOK YOU !
    I said this because I see some Ethiopians just steal somebody’s history
    as if it doesn’t have an owner and try to present it as if theirs purposely
    to deny and not acknowledge somebody’s history but quick to highlight
    the negative ones for the purpose of setting a precedent.
    For example the Amharas being highlighting and propagating all the negative
    Tigrian values purposely to create a pre-condition or barrier in their nation making
    process which ended up building a facade…………and similarly the Tigrians
    what they have learned from their Amhara rulers try to copy and do it on Eritreans
    to keep Eritreans at bay with falsification and plagiarism and distorting of facts and
    history to suit the facade they have tried to build.
    But one thing everyone should know about is Eritreans are teachers not students
    in Ethiopian historical facts.There has never been a whole country called Ethiopia
    without Eritrea and Eritreans and there will never be one in the future. For now
    just live with the half Ethiopia you have and be content with it before you dream
    for big but no capability or performance.

  • Bjust

    Hope,
    Trust me, Haile the G*, wouldn’t even recognize HGDF, even if HGDF slaps him in the face.
    *G = Geldam

  • AMAN

    I do not understand it what T. Kifle is trying to tell us about EPLF/TPLF.
    As all Ethiopians know
    1- TPLF is only one faction ( Tigrigna Ethnic wing ) of EPLF that represents 1/3 rd
    of the political spectrum of EPLF.
    2- Contrary to some propaganda 70% of the Dergue is defeated by EPLF not TPLF
    where the backbone of his revolutionary army was stationed in Eritrea and not in the
    rest part of Ethiopia.
    3- Degue never stationed one of his best army divisions but support divisions only to
    protect supply lines in Tigray and Gonder and never fought TPLF bitterly as it is not
    a threat for loss of sea outlet as that of the EPLF. And one way or the other tplf will
    always remain under unitary Ethiopia as it doesn’t have any political demand to worry
    about except like the demands of other oppressed ethnic movements.
    So politicaly and militarily the war was on Eritrea with the EPLF.

  • Not Quite Guest

    dine,
    This
    is Fanti Ghana. I have been waiting (still waiting) for awate team to resolve
    their technical issues ever since that dreadful “Sunday Confession. “ I was
    writing you a reply when that happened, So, better late than never, here I am
    with temp ID.

    The main reason I support/ed the Eritrean struggle for independence is because the
    majority of Eritreans demanded it. If and when I find verifiable evidence about the
    majority of any nationalities in the Ethiopian domain are indeed struggling for
    independence, I will support them too. I hope you don’t get me wrong. I prefer
    unity above all else, because I believe there is an inherent advantage in
    numbers, but I simply cannot and will not advocate for forced unity of any
    kind!

  • haile

    Ali-S

    It is better to read what i wrote rather than what seems to be bothering you deep down. I wrote earlier to “tafla” and mentioning “Horizon too” on this same topic the following:

    ” That you think there is equivalence between recognition that Ethiopia/EPRDF/Woyane are not a threat to Eritrea at peace with itself and the region and requesting or getting Ethiopian help to depose the PFDJ. Those are not equivalent in my mind. The first is about giving yourself a peace of mind to focus and direct your energy in uniting your people and restoring justice in Eritrea proper. The later is a totally different matter, be it EPLFs alliance with TPLF, EYSNS believing ties with Ethiopia would give them tactical advantage or all the other people you mention that predate my political consciousness. Those are tactical alliances entered to by groups and you’re as entitled to criticize it as much as others are entitled to support it. But please make that critical distinction that adjusting your view of Ethiopia is not the same as requesting Ethiopia’s support. Even Horizon appeared to have made that seamless connection too.”

    And here you are coming back to write to me:

    ” What you are saying is we should trust Ethiopia to do the regime change for us and we are saying we do not trust both of you.”

    Is it that you don’t pay attention to what is written or that you think you can smother other people’s views and beliefs with self serving fabrication that are essentially the figment of your imagination? This undermines your credibility of intellectual honesty. Let’s have a clean debate based on exchanges in good faith. Only those with hidden negative agenda would toil to twist and ill-characterize. I have total confidence in my ability to utterly tear to pieces such flippancy. It doesn’t fly with me. Honesty and integrity are crucial markers of who to respect in my book. I hope you control your inner fear, prejudice and defensiveness and enter into frank discussions. You are better than cheap patronizing that carry no weight in how I judge to engage you.

    PS: Dear hope, please spare us regurgitating Shabait.com as if you know first hand. Where is your evidence?

    • ALI-S

      Haile,
      Apology again. I did not read the post you referred. Very honestly, I have interest in twisting and I have really tried to understand. I am not interested in you personally because as long as one comes here, there is nothing personal about us. Your arguments represent a brand of our existing opposition.
      I need your help here. You know what I have been saying specifically on the Ethiopia case. If your position is the way you described and that is exactly my position, what is the difference then and why are we arguing? Let me reiterate for confirmation:
      (1) Ethiopia is an eternal friend just as Sudan, Djibouti and Burkina Faso are. However given our periodic rough experiences in this particular case, either side has good reason not to trust the other blindly. As any two neighbours, each side has the right and duty to take necessary precautions to deter foreign policies going wrong on the other side.
      (2) Eritreans in the opposition should exercise due diligence in using Ethiopia as a means to effect regime change in Eritrea. The reason is that any two neighbours in this planet usually do have their own interests in the politics of neighbours.
      (3) Some Eritreans may assess that there is no risk in using Ethiopia as a ride, while others may see this as risky business. Each is entitled to their opinion and should be respected.
      (4) Each side may frame the risks on either side the way they see fit and may contest very democratically. The winner of the two is the one who manages to win the decisive weight in public opinion.
      Would you say these are fair points for starting a new slate?

      • haile

        Dear Ali-S

        Honesty is the key in my book. Your focus seems to be Ethiopia (Tigray more specifically). Your politics seems to exclusively focus on any perceived rapprochement with Tigray. Even if no one remotely suggested discussions pertaining to such topic, you jump to it. According to you regime change is civil war and civil war is to do with Tigray agenda. You have encountered warning in violating posting guidelines as you stepped the mark with T. Kifle who is from Tigray. Let me be frank, and there is a good chance that you can explain to me to alley my concern, is what you’re doing an extension of your fight against the “land grabber” by other means? It may or may not be so, but many people are making such point indirectly and I decided clear it up with you for a clean slate.

        If it is so however, I only see it as the flip side of YG’s argument that I feel is unhealthy for Eritrea’s tastes of our united stand through thin and thick, right until this date as a nation. If the highlander wants to conspire against the lowlander, they are more than capable of that and on the flip side if a lowlander wants to conspire against the highlander they too are more than capable. It is their choice and determination to uphold our shared national dream based on mutual interdependence, trust and honesty that we rose above all that and we are standing tall and proud despite the most horrendous ordeals our nation is going through.

        I need to know why is it you no longer believe that the Tigrigna people of kebesa are fascist land grabbers. And why is your focus in your current position specifically targeted at something that borders paranoia of possible peace and cooperation with Ethiopia? I ask questions directly and as I see them, you are under no obligation to answer but it would help to stop the rumor mill if you do. Are you fighting against the land grabbers by other means Ali-S?

  • Hope

    With all due respect, would you be so kind to clarify to us the repeated rhetoric and non-stop effort by the Ethiopian Gov to create new sanctions on Eritrea and its people besides tightening the old ones?
    Unless you care less like our Haile about the collateral damages to the Eritreans, who are the real victims of the sanction, as long as it is going to destroy the PFDJ,which seems to be the case.
    But at the same time—talking about peace.So,how would you expect the real victims to trust you or Ethiopian Gov when you are really contributing to their misery openly?

  • hope

    Ali,
    I am disappointed with you for not going further. While I might agree as I agreed before that the PFDJ has played its role to our mess, be it “intentionally” or due to its strategic and policy mistakes, I will never buy this guy’s argument telling me that the PFDJ is exclusively responsible for our mess and that the weyanes and the west have had no role and he promised us that he will corroborate these with facts and evidence. I wonder why he is shy to do so.But,wait a minute, is he telling us that we cannot corroborate with facts the other party’s role?I mean, the honest Ethiopians are telling us that both parties messed up….but this guy is trying to be more Catholic than the Pope.I do not believe, no matter who he is or what his role was in Eritrea or within the PFDJ,he knows better than most of us.
    Semere Tesfay–are you there?(I guess you admitted that you have no clue what IS GOING IN Asmara other than the PFDJ being in power struggle?
    But as you said,he does not care about the collateral damages Eritrea and Eritreans are suffering as long as the No War ,No Peace and the West’s secret Security infringement on Eritrea is going to destroy the PFDJ.
    As to the Red Sea Afars’ issue, I thought it has been the same Aiga forum, which has been the mouth piece of the Red Sea Afars openly declaring the purpose of the Red Sea Afars Movement being for Independence of the Red Sea Afars,Aseb being the main target, and with the help of Canada—Potash? huh?
    How can this guy know the intention and the real purpose of the weyanes when they asked for or agreed with demarcating the eastern part?
    Does he understand the role of, and the motivation for asking for a partial demarcation?
    Is he denying the well documented negative role of the UN peace keeping mission in Eritrea?
    Did he read the Wikileakes about its own General(of the UN mission in Eritrea)sharing the Ethiopian plan with the US in Addis?

    • Bjust

      Hope,
      The Haile guy is just some one with deep, deep personal enmity with the Eritrean government (I repeat, PERSONAL), which has escalated to chronic level recently. It has nothing to do with care for Eritrea or the Eritrean people. His personal interest was touched lately and his twisted way caught red handed. As for the continuous bragging of having facts, don’t fall for it. Right now, the only thing he has for show is assenna.com. And of course the usual cover up of using long twisted wording like a cheat salesman. That is all.

  • hope

    Ali,
    I am disappointed with you for not going further. While I might agree as I agreed before that the PFDJ has played its role to our mess, be it “intentionally” or due to its strategic and policy mistakes, I will never buy this guy’s argument telling me that Hpromised us that he will corroborate these with facts and evidence. I wonder why he is shy to do so.But,wait a minute, is he telling us that we cannot corroborate with facts the other party’s role?I mean, the honest Ethiopians are telling us that both parties messed up….but this guy is trying to be more Catholic than the Pope.I do not believe, no matter who he is or what his role was in Eritrea or within the PFDJ,he knows better than most of us.
    Semere Tesfay–are you there?(I guess you admitted that you have no clue what IS GOING IN Asmara other than the PFDJ being in power struggle?
    But as you said,he does not care about the collateral damages Eritrea and Eritreans are suffering as long as the No War ,No Peace and the West’s secret Security infringement on Eritrea is going to destroy the PFDJ.
    As to the Red Sea Afars’ issue, I thought it has been the same Aiga forum, which has been the mouth piece of the Red Sea Afars openly declaring the purpose of the Red Sea Afars Movement being for Independence of the Red Sea Afars,Aseb being the main target, and with the help of Canada—Potash? huh?
    How can this guy know the intention and the real purpose of the weyanes when they asked for or agreed with demarcating the eastern part?
    Does he understand the role of, and the motivation for asking for a partial demarcation?
    Is he denying the well documented negative role of the UN peace keeping mission in Eritrea?
    Did he read the Wikileakes about its own General(of the UN mission in Eritrea)sharing the Ethiopian plan with the US in Addis?

    • ALI-S

      Hope,
      There is nothing to worry about. If there is one thing that the President and the Eritrean government did by the book it was Eritrea’s relationship with Ethiopia. Those who are running around boasting that they know secrets are doing so only because they either know nothing or have dubious info supply chains.
      The opposition (even under the most mature people) may beat the government’s arguments on every aspect of the state. They can never win on its policies and behaviours regarding Ethiopia. You can see for yourself how even a child of three (Baby-PFDJ) may come here and make the brightest opposition guy look funny on Ethiopia. In short Ethiopia is a scam card in the opposition deck of arguments.

  • Hope

    keep up on with your dreams and fantasy. It is only a matter of time that Eritrea will outshine and outlive every thing and every evil and every enemy under the SUN. Mark my word.If, NOT,at least believe in history—a neutral witness.

  • AMAN

    There is some misunderstanding by some Ethiopians here as
    to why and to what end Eritrea’s sacrifice was :
    To mention few
    Eritrea single handedly has pioneered and paid the heavy sacrifice
    to liberate Ethiopia as the other 13 or so Teklay Gizats were held
    to backward to understand about freedom and Liberity and good
    governance at that time due to base of the systems they came from.
    Eritrea was more enlightened and had advantage to see the light of
    modern governance systems, liberities of workers through unions
    and individual rights vis a vis government rule when it came into
    contact with abbyssinia in the 1940’s to form a country called Ethiopia.
    So it was too hard and unacceptable to such a society to accept the
    Absolutist monarchic rule in backward political system and society of
    the other half of the country making it incompatible and creating disharmony
    unless some liberalization and progressive policies are introduced as imagined
    before the FEDERAL UNION which never did or happen to be.
    So it was impossible to go from Liberity to slavery under kings Absolutist rule
    and required sacrifice to be made to reclaim Economic, social and political
    liberties and rule of law and good governance which it is impossible for HSI
    to provide or come up with.
    Therefore Eritrea lead and pioneered the struggle for the Liberation of Ethiopia
    on behalf of the oppressed Ethiopian peoples which ddi not have any knowledge
    about to understand it or do so untill shown practically how it works with time. So
    overtime they start to understand it and started coming to fight for their own rights
    and freedoms learning from the Eritrean struggle.
    But initially Eritrea’s idea was not to scede or separate from the union. It only became
    so when the regimes took the meaning of the struggle to different angle or to mean
    as people against people which never was. And they hardened their position not
    to negotiate peace in good faith for the sake of the country and not to split into two.
    But they chose their hold to power than the salvation of the country and failed to show patriotism risking it all to the present situation. So when Eritreans are left without choice
    they had to go all along to declare their independent country as there was none to
    negotiate.

  • Eyob,

    In the region I live, demonstrations and riots are a common thing. In the so many years that have passed, not more than a number of lives that can be counted on the fingers of one hand has been lost; and these countries are not chaotic and they are among the most democratic.

    It must be known that our security forces are not going to a war zone to be in need of live ammunitions, but to a riot area, and the aim is to bring order when riots breaks. Water cannons and rubber bullets are enough to control riots and demonstrations when they get out of order, especially when the rioters are not armed with firearms as in this case. In addition, there could be a reserve force to face armed extremists that might exploit the situation and do damage.

    ESAT and the opposition are praying for such things to happen to demonize the government; and it is the responsibility of the government not to fall in to their trap. Remember, they are the same people who are saying that the hijacking of the Ethiopian plane was right, Ethiopian dams are damned dams,
    lament when AA’s Ashanti towns are demolished to be replaced by high rising buildings or roads and dwellers are compensated, cry when Ethiopia is laughing and laugh when Ethiopia is crying. It is a long time now since I stopped visiting their websites.

    Riots are going to happen in the future because some anti-government and anti-Ethiopian forces are there to instigate it; but the government must be
    ready to handle it in a proper way, without using excessive force. There are always political forces who exploit naïve youngsters, especially in a country where partisan politics is the order of the day. In addition, the US is not a good example to emulate in such matters. We had better look towards European countries.

  • AMEN

    So if the US wished to turn back the clock of 1997 Ethiopian-Eritrean reality
    to the era of pre-1991 Ghedli so as to create a new engagement and reality
    in which Eritrea seeks justice from Ethiopia ( as what has been going on for
    the last two decades)…………it should also be responsible for containing the
    flow and hold of politics,authority and administrative structure at the point
    where the DErgue left it in 1990/91 or if not it has to return it to that point
    that is where Ethiopia was a UNITARY system , SINGLE PARTY, COMMAND
    ECONOMY, NO FREE PRESS in short the administrative, economic and social
    structure Ethiopia was in 1991. Rather than opening a floodgate of a not well
    researched new policies and changes of privatization, free press, Ethnic rule
    and administration, multiparty,so on and on where Eritrea was absent and never
    participated and played its role and where the beneficiaries are all the anti Eritrean
    people and anti justice forces in collaboration with outside western investors who
    would only love to see havoc in Eritrea and want to use the people’s sacrifice to
    enrich and benefit themselves at his expence.
    So if the US and UN likes to turn the clock back on the development of our struggle
    and nation it should also turn it back on the developments that took place in Ethiopia
    for meaningful engagement, peaceful negotiation, sustainable peace and commonwealth
    and prosperity in a JUST and LEGITIMATE way.
    Otherwise to try only to benefit Ethiopia at the expence of Eritrea never brings the desired
    result of peace and development but war,strife and destruction and famine as in the past
    history and fact of the region.

  • AMEN

    The political platform and demand of rights many Ethiopian opposition forces
    are currently enjoying is supposed to belong to our Eritrean brothers who
    pioneered the opposition and resistance to the malicious disease and crippled
    administration that afflicted and seized Ethiopia due to HSI errors and mistakes
    and inherited by Mengistu and MLLT-Woyane juntas consequently.
    The political gap created in Ethiopia as a result of the 1991 confusion is well
    exploited and filled by opponents to the joint EPLF and TPLF (EPRDF) lead
    struggle and victory. And within ERDF itself the TPLF has got total monopoly
    and 100% control with the total absence or pullout of EPLF. This by extension
    has undermined the role of ELF it should play within Eritrea and Ethiopia.
    That is EPLF’s position is filled by new TPLF allies of OPDO,ANDM and SPDM
    and others.
    And similarily ELF’s position is taken by OLF,ONLF,ECADF and others.
    Therefore this has become a golden opportunity from the sky for all opponents
    of the new EPRDF lead post 1991 system to sway and manipulate it easily to
    further advance their advantage against the Eritrean and Tigrian people’s struggle
    and create a new but selfish , dangerous and unsustainable reality in Ethiopia.
    So any new transformation for sustainable peace and stable Ethiopia should or must
    take account of the legitimacy and victorious ending of the struggle of the Eritrean
    people as in the year 1991 and negotiate peace instead of trying using an already
    defeated method of war and aggression to undercut their rights and demands and
    steal the fruits obtained by their struggle.
    So that is why any negotiation between the two countries should base itself to the
    situation of 1989/91 instead of the newly created dangerous reality of 1998/2000
    which diminishes Eritrean case to a mere question of survival only with no more
    other rights.

    • Amen,

      “………………..any negotiation between the two countries should base itself to the situation of 1989/91 instead of the newly created dangerous reality of 1998/2000 which
      diminishes Eritrean case to a mere question of survival only with no more other rights.”

      Be sure, this great idea of yours will bring a thousand years of Ethio-Eritrean peace. Only that the Dergue is gone, no more are EPLF/TPLF working hands and gloves, the new politico-social condition is completely different, and you would
      be forced to negotiate from a weaker position unlike 1989/1991, etc. You have two choices: either create again the 1989/1991 situation, or put up with the present and future situations. It is unfortunate that you continue to live in the
      dead and defunct past, which makes you an obstacle to the rapprochement of the two countries. Do not be blind to the situation on the ground. It will not help anybody. Negotiations in goodwill will bring the desirable results much more than
      any sort of antagonism between the two people.

      Look at Egypt; where did all that rattling lead to? Historical rights, international laws, Egypt is the gift of the Nile, etc. SS Kerry visited Addis and the Ethiopian government reiterated that it has NO plans to hurt Egypt; and the SS said
      nothing more on the issue. The political message is that Egypt should stop the drums of war and intimidation and negotiate with Ethiopia, because Ethiopia too has rights over the Nile, even much more than Egypt. This means that even Egypt
      is forced to negotiate on the terms of 2010 and not on that of 1929.

      When you demand from Ethiopia to come down and negotiate from her very weak position of 1989/1991, either you fail to understand or do not want to, when it comes to negotiations. You should change this mindset if you really want peace
      and prosperity.

      In addition, there are those who say that they gave Ethiopia freedom and the chance for development, etc. One simple advice. In the future whenever they give something to others, they had better keep some for themselves, because they do not know what the future would bring. When a person dwells in the past, it has either nothing to show at the present, or he/she does not have a plan for the future.

    • Amen,

      “………………..any negotiation between the two countries should base itself to the situation of 1989/91 instead of the newly created dangerous reality of 1998/2000 which
      diminishes Eritrean case to a mere question of survival only with no more other rights.”

      Be sure, this great idea of yours will bring a thousand years of Ethio-Eritrean peace. Only that the Dergue is gone, no more are EPLF/TPLF working hands and gloves, the new politico-social condition is completely different, and you would
      be forced to negotiate from a weaker position unlike 1989/1991, etc. You have two choices: either create again the 1989/1991 situation, or put up with the present and future situations. It is unfortunate that you continue to live in the
      dead and defunct past, which makes you an obstacle to the rapprochement of the two countries. Do not be blind to the situation on the ground. It will not help anybody. Negotiations in goodwill will bring the desirable results much more than
      any sort of antagonism between the two people.

      Look at Egypt; where did all that rattling lead to? Historical rights, international laws, Egypt is the gift of the Nile, etc. SS Kerry visited Addis and the Ethiopian government reiterated that it has NO plans to hurt Egypt; and the SS said nothing more on the issue. The political message is that Egypt should stop the drums of war and intimidation and negotiate with Ethiopia, because Ethiopia too has rights over the Nile, even much more than Egypt. This means that even Egypt
      is forced to negotiate on the terms of 2010 and not on that of 1929.

      When you demand from Ethiopia to come down and negotiate from her very weak position of 1989/1991, either you fail to understand or do not want to when it comes to negotiations. You should change this mindset if you really want peace
      and prosperity.

      In addition, there are those who say that they gave Ethiopia freedom and the chance for development. One simple advice. In the future whenever they give something to others, they had better keep some for themselves, because they do not know what the future would bring. When a person dwells in the past, it has either nothing to show at the present, or he/she does not have a plan for the future.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear dine; that’s exactly what I tried to make. My point in that article was that that was the norm of international relations and that it was up to us to figure out how to play it. I was specifically addressing the regime’s lame excuses for the failures Eritrea has been experiencing under PFDJ.

  • haile

    Selam Solomon T

    Thanks for the kind words. I think you’re the first one to pin point where my arguments here are headed. In order for it to be going to be of any relevance, my ultimate focus is the “silent” section of population. Sadly they buy the irrational Ethiopia fear (as a rational national, it is fair to have your own calculations to further your interests, irrational is something else). It is not only a show of low esteem but a form of utter despondency in the face of making responsible choices. We know that in the last decade alone and up until last year (mid 2013) 313,000 Eritreans have been registered with the UNHCR. This is roughly twice the size of our Afar population (and the number is from a year before the recent collapse of border control). I compare it to the population of Afar because despite the fact that Ethiopia had early on agreed the demarcation of eastern sector (including the Afar territory) to go ahead while the western sector is negotiated, it was the regime of IA that has refused to do so. Yet, PFDJ now play with the mind of our gullible silent majority by claiming that Ethiopia is after annexing the Afar region! Imagine, after refusing the piecemeal demarcation, it was hgdef that progressively expelled the peace keepers (where its final act of expulsion was a thorough humiliation of the world body and the US ambassador to the UN observed at the time that Eritrea would pay big time for that). After such willful exposure of the nation to renewed conflict, hgdef went to declare no-war-no-peace situation where it locked up the use permanently in NS, suspended business and trade licensing, closed off Asmara University, shut down legal migration/visa service provision, emptied the national bank and installed a full fledged controband economy, escalated brutal treatment of the people and hundreds and thousands escaped and tens thousands died in the process, torture disappearance and killings became wide spread. The regime made Asmara the hub of rebel movements to destabilize the region and arrogantly asserted that all roads to peace pass through Asmara. Some of those invited to take up residence were Somali who were on UN and US terrorist wanted list. The military was accused of trafficking in persons and Eritreans begun to pay ransom inside Eritrea proper. All this came to ahead when in Oct. 2013 366 Eritreans capsized 800m shy of dryland off the Italian Island Lampedusa. The shame of Eritreans took turn to the worst with many pro regime cursed the victims including in this pages and many social media and refused to pay their respects by holding off planned entertainment events. Only a people that have completely severed their links with their country and people would look the other way. And obviously, it is far from truth to say that Eritreans are like that. I think that they are rendered to accepting this inhuman and shameful role that would leave a black stain for generations to come because they are confused about Ethiopia and are seeing above and over rational fear of none-existent interests being lost. Unless Eritreans in the diaspora give this matter an urgent attention, their fate will be decided by the whims of few people that had the advantage of taking over a house neglected by its rightful owners. Let’s hope they reflect on this important bottle neck that is bedeviling Eritreans and pitting them against each other. As to the fools who think that there will be one big bright day where Ethiopians would accept the responsibility of the gruesome tragedy Eritreans are inflicting on each other, well dream on, it is free.

    Regards

    • Amde

      Hi Haile,

      Now this is a tour de force. There will be no resolution of Eritrea’s issues until the nature of the Ethio-Eritrean relationship is honestly reviewed and accepted. It is wonderfully encouraging to see something like this. I wish you all the luck.

      But the hardest things to change are hearts and minds, and those get changed on a retail basis – one person at a time. I would say what you are describing is a cult like hold on people that are physically, legally, and financially free to otherwise make their own assessments and decisions. You know the adage that progress happens one funeral at a time. My pessimistic side says time is running out but I sincerely wish people take you to heart.

      amde

      • Ali-S

        Amde & Haile,

        Amde I like your way of seeing things here so no further comment.

        Haile also I like your argument and especially your claim that 90% of what qualifies as opposition agenda (i.e. of the Eritrean catastrophe) has nothing to do with Ethiopia. You are absolutely right on that.

        Naturally therefore we should have no problem in agreeing on the Ethiopia issue but of course we do.

        I think you are confusing two different questions.

        First: whether Eritreans love Ethiopians and whether we should see it just as we see Uganda. Of course we do and we wish them the best. We know they have crazy people who might not settle for less and we have seen the throughout our history. But defending ourselves against such contingencies is our problem not theirs.

        Second: whether we should get Ethiopia to join our regime change agenda as a primary player and that is where our difference is. What you are saying is not that we should have good relations with Ethiopia as a legitimate neighbour based on mutual respect and exchange of interests between two sovereign states. What you are saying is we should trust Ethiopia to do the regime change for us and we are saying we do not trust both of you.

        Our call is (based on your own argument that Ethiopia is irrelevant to our cause for change) to take Ethiopia out of our opposition agenda, get the hell out of Ethiopia because it is annoying people and find a formula of change that excludes the Ethiopia factor.

        I get your idea (if I am understanding you right) that since the Weyane have their own problem with the PFDJ (for which the opposition is not to blame and I agree), it should be OK to take advantage and let them go for it. Weyane after all aren’t doing their hostility for the opposition (they don’t work for us), so help them if we can since the end is the same. Do I have that right?

  • Saleh Johar

    Dear T. Kifle,
    I have never mentioned the Weyane in name and I have always refer to Ethiopian officials and Ethiopian Government. What happens internally is Ethiopian and I keep my fingers out of it as much as I can. Branding any Eritrean who lands in Ethiopia as a sellout has been the optimum intellectual and patriotic expression of a few of our own. They are simply embarrassing. I held this view when such a view was held by a tiny minority, particularly after the border war, and I paid dearly for my stand. Ever since, I have been diligently following anything that happens in the Ethiopian-Eritrean opposition relations. 2011 was a turning point for me–yet, my principles are intact: peaceful coexistence, respectful and mature alliance at this stage. Over the last fifteen years, there is not much the Eritrean opposition can present as an achievements. Yet, when Ethiopian officials evaluate the experience, they tend to dismiss their sometimes destructive (which I call reckless) actions and badmouth the opposition. My first grievance: there are two sides from the Ethiopian government that deals with the opposition, both have different objectives and modes of operation: 1) Intelligence operatives, and 2) the political arm. It is demeaning for a national opposition force to handle it like a spy project, fuel for the people the great Haile is handling. After so many years of work, hope and aspiration, the opposition hoped 2011 will be a milestone after the formation of the ENCDC. It was, not to be. Interference were very clear (I have written about this extensively on Negarit) then followed hatching of mini organizations with facilities and resources from you-know-who. Then there was a frantic move by our Ethiopian friends to form competing organizations–I am sure of this so no one can argue with me they are projects initiated by Eritreans…..and they will not listen to a single advice, bent of continuing on the same path. Now, are the Ethiopians obliged to listen? No at all. Its their country, their resources and their wishes, no one call tell them to do this or that. One thing I can tell you is that the Ethiopians (now I have to mention the TPLF) was an entity that went through struggle, using Sudanese and yes, Eritreans soil and I am sure at some instances they might have had similar grievances (on both Eritrea and Sudan) and they should know how it feels. They should know how it feels for a struggler who waited for hours at the door of a Sudanese official to get a license to transport a meager load of grain or a few boxes of ammunition, maybe for a visa, a security clearance, etc. Would it be nice to act like the official who made them feel bad, insulted and disrespected? That is my frustration… I already went further than I want to… 🙂

    • Ermias

      SGJ and T. Kifle, thank you, two great minds, very educational for me to read. But I have to admit, this is why I hate politics. Some Ethiopian officials (per SGJ) and some Eritrean nationalists (per T. Kifle) subotaging the whole Eritrean movement to topple the repressive regime. That is politics at its dirtiest.

  • T. Kifle

    Dear Moderator,
    Sad. I lost my white hat and even worse: my thread.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hayat,

    Let me give you this statement, if it could help you to close your case, without going to the nitty-gritty until historian sort it out.

    Ghedli as big victory as it is, it has positive and negative impact on the nation and its people. Ghedli has positive core and that is, it liberate the land. Ghedli has a negative core because it keeps the legacy of oppression.

  • Fanti

    Moderator, Help!
    I have been blocked from posting ever since that ‘confession’ brouhaha, and my older posts has been removed.
    I am posting this with different email address as guest. DISQUS is referring almost all my problems to the moderator (you).
    Any resolution in site? Thanks.

  • Fanti

    I am still blocked from posting!
    Fanti Ghana

  • Abrham

    If Ethiopia is one gigantic mess, your smaller, smarter and cohesive country will be in mess too. Simply you can observe what is happening around the horn. It takes no time to distract your cohesiveness changing every thing ugly while you are dreaming of the gigantic mess to your neighbors.

  • Yodita

    Dear Hayat Haftey,

    Thank you for the reply. Needless to say, you must have considered every angle of
    the situation to entertain or to arrive at a non-main stream belief. My light weight arguments can do little or nothing to sway your pondered position. I will nevertheless try!

    That Ghedli had within it elements (more than one) who set out to use it for their myopic or selfish ends (including those foreign countries who sort of breathed life to it) are hard facts and must be taken as part of the ‘game’. But to negate
    that the Eritrean people, through their perseverance, courage and SACRFICE made it into one of the most disciplined and successful struggles of our times is too obvious as we witnessed it firsthand.

    Hayat, are we to evaluate a people’s determined struggle to shed subjugation, poverty and ignorance through the aspects of its hijackers who derailed the sacred aspiration (as YG is doing) OR through the legendary heroic fight and victory of
    the real players (tegadelti and Hzbi Ertra)?

    Where would modern Ethiopia be without the EPLF influence on TPLF? Not the material support they may have
    received but the learning by example from an impeccably organized EPLF and its fighters’ discipline and courage! They had Meles (the achiever) and are where they are. We got Isaias Wedini, Ewala, and we are bleeding. Because of this incidence, our struggle is being put to tatters by a YG who openly admires Ethiopia. These two parallel Ghedlis (one is a
    god-mother of the other) cannot be seen in such a polar way: one is to be hacked to pieces and the other
    to be venerated!

    Ghedlis are not to be assessed through individual leaders but what the common majority made out of it. Eritrea has shown you can achieve your goal against all odds. Our Ghedli history is yet to be written in Gold Letters – a history that will make
    us and future generations walk with heads held high because we come from a generation that was able to selflessly give so much!

    Brilliant as he is, as an Eritrean, I am ashamed of YG and his blind ‘rage’ against Ghedli (an enitre nation’s sacrifice), mercilessly flogging it day in and day out.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Tseba stey eza gualey.

    • T. Kifle

      Dear Yodit,

      I understand the emotional build up and outburst as a result of the godfly, YG, and his proponents like Hayat who add fuel to the fire but you need to address your issues without touching the noses of the people on the other side of the divide.

      You said, and I quote ,”Where would modern Ethiopia be without the EPLF influence on TPLF? Not the material support they may have received but the learning by example from an impeccably organized EPLF and its fighters’ discipline and courage!”

      My dear Yodi, “courage” is the last thing the TPLFites would learn from anyone including your EPLF not that out of disrespect to the selfless EPLF fighters but simply because it’s part and parcel of their long established patriotic tradition that pre-dated Ghedli.

      with due respect

      • Yodita

        Dear T. Kifle,

        With all due respect, the field of all human endeavour is wide open to “ጽልዋ”. I think that the innate courage of TPLF was stimulated and impacted by the highly disciplined and fearless EPLF ጀጋኑ ተጋደልቲ.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          T.Kifle: The following is an excerpt of an article I wrote on the excuses PFDJ makes on why we have not made a headway on national reconstruction including political infrastracture, this part of the article may shade light on why people to people relationship, particularly those gallant Eritreans and Tireans tegadelty sacrifices should not be forgotten, pay attention on the part dealing with Tigrean and Eritrean peoples’sacrifices. I will paste the whole article at the end, moderator: I’m not sure if this is OK with you; well, the button is within your reach.

          “ሐ- ኣመሪካ ንኣፍሪቃ ኣብ ዞባታት ከፋፊላ ብጎባልል ዝበሃላ ሃገራት ክትቆጻጸራ ትደሊ (ህግድፍ ከዳምነት እዩ ዝብሎ)። ተዛረብቲ እንግሊዘኛ ከምዚ ከጋጥሞም ከሎ “ So, what?” ይብሉ። እዚ ‘ሞ ሓድሽ ድዩ? ንውሽጣዊ ናጽነት ናይተን ካልኦት ሃገራት( እተን ዘይጎባልል) ከ ብከመይ ይጸልዎ? ንኣብነት፡ ኢትዮጵያ ወኪል ኣመሪካ ኣብ ምብራቕ ኣፍሪቃ እያ ንበል። እዚ ተራ’ዚ ወይ status ንውሽጣዊ ናጽነት ከንያ ወይ ዩጋንዳ ወይ ርዋንዳ ብከመይ ይጸልዎ? ኣመሪካ ከ ምስ ዝተፈላለየ ሃገራት ብዝተፈላለየ ደረጃታት ዝምድና ክትገብር መሰላ ‘ዶ ኣይኮነን? ንሳ ‘ኮ ንሃገራዊ ረብሓኣ እያ ትሰርሕ። ሕራይ’ስከ እዚ ምጉት እዚ ቅሩብ ‘ዶ ሓቂ ይኸውን ንበል። እሞ ካልኦት እንተከደሙ ህግድፋውያን እንታይ ዓጠጦም? ዘይምክዳም ተረፎም። ከምዚ ዓይነት ርእሰ-ምዕባይን ምትዕናናትን ህግድፍ ዝጀመሮ ዘይኮነስ ካብቶም ገና ንዜጋታቶም ዓፊኖም ዘለዉን ካብቶም ዜጋታቶም ዝደርበይዎምን ብልሽዋት ዲክተተራት ዝተማህሮ እዩ። ከክፍኡ ኣብ ምምሃር መቸም ዝቅድሞ የለን። ነቶም ክሓቱካ ዕድል ዘይብሎም ወይ ድማ ነቶም ከብዶም መኺርዎም ሰማዕቲ ጥራይ ክኾኑ መሪጾም ዘለዉ ክተጸምም ትኽእል ኢኻ። ስለ’ዚ፡ ኣኳስ ምጉት እዩ ምባሉ ይከኣል።

          ሰ- ወያነ ዘይኮነስ ኣመሪካ እዩ ተዋጊኡና። ዶብና ክሕንጸጽ እውን ኣይትደልን እያ።

          ምኽሪ ኣመሪካ ሰሚዕካ ኔርካ እንተትኸውን ብዙሕ ሂወት ምደሓነ ‘ሞ ሎሚ ገጽ ብዙሓት ኣደታትና ፍሽኽታ ዓሲልዎ ደቂ-ደቀን ከሰራስራ ምረኣና ኔርና። ክሳራ ክልቲኡ ህዝብታት ምወሓደ ኔሩ። እቲ ሓቂ፡ ኣመሪካ ካብ መጀመሪያ ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ካብቲ ”ይግበኣኒ” ‘ዩ እትብሎ ቦታ፡ ናይ ይብጸሓኒ መሰላ ብዘይትንክፍ ደረጃ ናብ ዝነበሮ ቦታ ክምለስን እቲ ምስሕሓብ ብሰላም ክፍታሕን ጽዒራ እያ። እቲ ኵናት ምስ ቀጸለ እውን ክልቲኡ ወገናት ቶኵሲ ደው ከብሉ ብዘይ ዕርፍቲ ሰሪሑ። ስምምዕ ኣልጀርስ ብቀንዱ ንውድብ ሓድነት ኣፍሪቃን ሕቡራት ሃገራትን(UN) ይምልከት። ኣቲ ስምምዕ ትጽቢት ዘንበረሉ ምትሕብባር ክልቲኡ ወገናት እዩ ነይሩ። ስለ’ዚ፡ ሓደ ወገን እንተሓንጊዱ ንምትግባሩ ብሓይሊ ወይ ብውግእ ወይ ብእገዳ ክግደድ እዩ ዝብል ኣንቀጽ ይኹን ሓረግ የብሉን። እዚ ከኣ እዩ እቲ ድኹም ጎኒ ናይቲ ስምምዕ። እዚ ይኹን እቲ፡ ክሳብ ሕጂ መርገጺ ኣመሪካ፡ ንብይን ናይቲ ኣህጉራዊ ቤት-ፍርዲ ዝቅበልን ንኢትዮጵያ ነቲ ፍርዲ ከምዘለዎ ክትቅበሎ ዝጽውዕን ‘ዩ። ኣብ ቦታ ኤርትራ ኮይና ንኢትዮጵያ ክትዋጋእን መሬት ኤርትራ ክትሕርርን ግን ትጽቢት ዝግበረላ ኣይመስለንን።

          ንእግረ-መንገድና፡ ኣብ 1998፡ ኲናት ዶብ ጀሚሩ ምስ ሰማዕኩ ከኣምኖ ኣሽጊሩኒ። ባድመ ኣብ መፋርቅ ሰማንያታት ውዒለ ሓዲረሉ ኣለኹ። ሽዑ እውን ኣብ ትሕቲ ወያኔ ኔሩ። ብዛዕባ እዚ ቦታ’ዚ ዝነበረ ናይ ጀብሃ ይኹን ድሕርኡ ዝሰዓበ ፖሊሲ ህ.ግ.ሓ.ኤ. እፈልጦ እየ። ድሕሪ ናጽነት፡ ኣሃዱ ካርቶግራፊ ወያነ ወሰናስን ከጽብቡን ከግፍሑን ከምዝከረመን ሓረስቶት ኡይ ይብሉ ከምዝነበሩን ይዝከር። ቀቅድሚ እቲ ውግእ ኣብ ዝነበራ ሳምንታት፡ ኢሰያስ ኣብ ዶብ ክልቲአን ሃገራት ጥይት እውን ዘተኩስ ኩነታት ከምዘይነበረ እዩ ዝዛረብ ነይሩ። መራሕቲ ህግድፍ፡ ከም ልሙድ ኣሰራርሓ፡ ኣብ ኣህጉራዊ መጋባእያታት ኣቤቱታ እንተዘቅርቡን (ንኣብነት ውድብ ሕ.ሃን ውድብ ው.ሓ.ኣን) ነቲ ሽግር ኣብ ቅድሚ ዓለምን ህዝቦምን እንተዘልዕልዎን ብሰላም ክፈትሕዎ ፈተነታት ገይሮም ነይሮም እንተዝኾኑ ሃንደበት ኣይምኾነን። ምናልባት እውን ከም ርእሰ-ምክልኻል ክትርጎም ምተፈተነ። ኣብ ዓለምና ምስሕሓብ ዶባት ዘለወን ሃገራት ብዙሓት እየን። ገሊአን ‘ሞ ኑክሌር ዝውንና እየን። ይኹን እምበር፡ ናይ መጀመርያ ወስተአን ብታንክታት ዝገበርኦ እንተለዋ ኣዝየን ውሑዳት እየን። ህ.ግ. ኣብ ሰማንያታት ልቦና ከርኢ እንከሎ፡ ምስ ግዜ ዝያዳ በሲሉ ይኸውን ኢልና ኣብ እተጸበናሉ መወዳእታ ትስዓታት ግን ናይ ምምዛን ዓቅሙ ኣጕሂዩና። እቲ ውድብ ድሮ ብህግድፋውያን ተጨውዩ ኔሩ። ንሓደ ከብቶም ንሃገርና ኣብ ሰለሎ ኣእቲዩ ዘሎ ዕንደረኦም ደፋፊኦምልናን ኣስገዲዶምልናን። ሳላ እቶም ኣብ ጥራሕ ጎላጉል ደንካልያን ኣብ ሰናጭሮታት ዳሴን ኣብ ዝባውንቲ ከበሳን ንሓጻውንቲ ዘምከኹ ጀጋኑና’ምበር ሎሚ እቲ ጸወታ ካልእ ምኾነ።( ንሓበሬታ፡ እቲ ኲናት ክውገድ ዝግበኦ ከምዝነበረ ናይ ሽዑ እምነተይ ኔሩ። ሕጂ ውን ጸኒዐሉ ኣለኹ)። ኣቶ ኢሰያስ፡ ነቲ ኵናት ሎሚ ወሊዕዎ ኔሩ እንተዝኽውን፡ እንተወሓደ ምኽኑይ ምኾነ። እዚ ንምጉት እምበር ኵናት ስለዝምነ ኣይኮንኩን። ድሌተይ ንደቅና ኵናት ዘይኮነስ፡ ሰላምን ፍትሕን ርትዕን ዝሰፈና ሃገር ክንገድፈሎም እዩ።

          እቲ ቁምነገር፡ መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ እቲ ብይን ብዘይ ዕጸምጸ ክትግብርን ህግድፍ ኣመሪካ ኣየተግበረትለይ ኢሉ ዝገብሮ ብኽያት ሕንቁቅ ቆልዓ ከቋርጾ ኣለዎ። ብፍላይ ትግራዎት፡ እቲ ኲናት ካብ ካልኦት ኢትዮጵያውያን ዝያዳ ንስኹም ተሃሲኹምሉ። መቸም፡ ዝኾነ ኮይኑ እዩ። ይኹን እምበር፡ ንመራሕትኹም ታሪኽ ክተዘኻክርዎምን እቲ ጉዳይ ብዘይወዓል ሕደር በቲ ተበዪኑዎ ዘሎ ክፍታሕ ጸቅጢ ክትገብሩሎም ሓላፍነት ኣለኩም። ዝምድና ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ከም ክሉ ካልእ ጎረባብቲ ብሓጎጽጎጽ ዝመልአ ምዃኑ ይርደኣኒ እዩ። ግን ብሓንሳብ ጠሚናን ደሚናን ሓዚንናን ኢና። ኣዕጽምቲ ትግራዎት ኣብ በረኻታት ሳሕል ኣሎ። ኣዕጽምቲ ኤርትራውያን እውን ኣብቲ ተልምዕዎ ዘለኹም መሬት ከምዘሎ ኣይትስሕትዎን። ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ካብ ብኲናትን ምትፍናን ዝረኽብዎ ብስኒትን ምትሕግጋዝን ዝረኽብዎ መክሰብ ይበዝሕ። እዚ ድማ በቲ ነቶም ኣብ ትሕቲ ዕቍባኹም ዘለዉ ኤርትራውያን እትገብርዎ ኣተሓሕዛ ይጅምር። ሓገዝ ኤርትራውያን ተነፊጉኩም ኣይፈልጥን እዩ እሞ ሓገዝኩም ኣይፈለዮም። እዚ ክፉእ ግዜ’ዚ ክሓልፍ እዩ። ባህልታት ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ንሓደጋ ዝምነን ዝወራዘየሉን ኣይእንግድን እዩ።” This is the end of the part relevant to our discussion; and hereis the whole article.
          ሕቶታት ኣለዉኒ፡ ሕጂ ውን ዝምልስ እንተሎ ዓይንኹም ይብራህ – (2ይ ክፋል)

          By assenna on November 29, 2013

          ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ

          11- እንታይ ስለዝገበርናዮም ኮን ይኸውን እዞም ኣማርካ ክሳብ ክንድ’ዚ ዝጭክኑልና?( ቀንዲ ምኽንያት መጽሓፊ ናይዚ ዓምዲ ኣብቲ ቀዳማይ ክፋል ኣሎ)

          ንመበራበሪ ክኾነና፡

          ናይ ጆን ፎስተር ዳለስ ጥቅሲ ትደጋገም እያ። ንሳ ቅድሚ ኣስታት 70 ዓመታት ኣብ ኣዝዩ ዝተፈልየ ኩነታት ዓለምናን መዋእልን ዝተባህለት እያ። እቲ ዝሰዓበ መርገጺ ኣመሪካ ዘገደደ ኩነታት እውን ሎሚ የለን። ኣመሪካ ዝወሰደቶ ናይ ሽዑ መርገአጺ ኣንፈት ታሪኽና ከምዝቀየረን ድሕርኡ እውን ኣመሪካ መሰል ርእሰ-ውሳነ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ንምጉዕጻጽ ኣሉታዊ ተራ ከም ዝነበራን ምዝጉብ እዩ። ይኹን እምበር፡ ካብ ሽዑ ንደሓር፡ ኣብ ዓለም ብዙሕ ለውጥታት ተራእዩ። ወዲ ሰብ ንጠፈር መሊኹ፤ ኣመሪካን ቻይናን ዕርክነት ጌረን፤ ዝሑል ኲናት ኣብቂዑስ ሶቬት-ሕብረት ናብ ዳግም ክገጣጠም ዘይክእል ስብርባራት ፋሕፋሕ ኢላ። እቲ ቀደም ብኑኵሌሳዊ ኣጽዋር ዓለም ክህሙኽ ተፋጢጡ ዝነበረ ሓይልታት ምዕራብን ምብራቕን ሎሚ ብንግድን ዓለማዊ ምትሕብባርን ተጠናኒጉ ካብ ብኵናት ዝረብሖ ብኵናት ዝኸስሮ ስለዝበዝሕ ፍልልያቱ ብሰላም ኣብ ምውጋድን ኣብ ዕቤታዊ ውድድርን ኣትዩ ኣሎ። ደሓር ከኣ፡ ዝምድናታት ሃገራት ብናይ ክሉ-ግዜ ፈታዊ ወይ ናይ ክሉ-ግዜ ጸለኢ ዝብል ምድባት ኣይኮነን ዝምራሕ። ዕምቆት ዝምድናታተን ዝውስኖ ሃገራዊ ረብሓአን እዩ። መን ምስ መንን እንታይ ዓይነት ዝምድናን ዕምቆቱን ዝውስና ንሰን እተን ውልቀ-ሃገራት እየን።

          መራሕቲ ህግድፍ ክሉ ሕመቖም ብኣመሪካ ከመኻንዩ ካብ ዝስምዑ ነዊሕ ኮይኑ። ኣብዚ ግዜ’ዚ ግን ገኒኑ። ድሕነት ኤርትራውያን ቆልዑ ዘይሓለዉስ ክሉ ፍልሰትን ህልቂትን መንእሰያትና ጠንቁ ምሉእ ብምሉእ ኣመሪካ እዩ ይብሉና ኣለዉ- ከይሓፈሩ። መነባብሮ ኣንቆልቊሉ? ኣመሪካ ይስከሞ። ዜጋታት ፍትሒ ስኢኖም? ፍትሒ ኣመሪካ ሰሪቖሞ። ሰበስልጣን ብብዕልግና ሃገር ኣጥፊኦማ። ሲ.ኣይ.ኤ-ላንግሊ ድውሉ። ንምንታይ ደንጒኻ ቤት ጽሕፈት ተኣቱ? ኣመሪካ ራይድ ኣይሃበንን። ሰባይትኻ ብከመይ ተገላጊላ? ብሰንኪ ኣመሪካ 6 ሳዓት ተጻዒራ።ካን፡ ወላ ከፊላዊ ሓላፍነት ምስካም እውን ኣብዩዎም። ብዝኾነ፡ ብቀደሙ ሓላፍነት ዘይስመዖ ጉጅለ ማፍያ እዩ ሃገርና ዝገዝእ ዘሎ። እዚ ክስታት እዚ በቲ ንሶም ዝቆጻጸርዎ ማስ ሚድያን ኣብ ደገፍቶም ጥራይ ዝሳተፍዎ ኣኼባታት ስለዝደጋግምዎ፡ ክሳብ ሕጂ፡ ናጻ ዜጋታት ገጽንገጽ ክገጥምዎ ኣሸጊርዎም ኣሎ። ጠገለ ብዝበተኸ መልክዑ ከኣ ይቅጽል ኣሎ።

          እስከ ጭብጥታትኩም ኣቅርቡ፡ ከመይ ኢልክም ኢኹም ኩሉ ፍሽለታትኩም ንኣመሪካ ተሰክሙ? ኣይበዝሐን’ዶ? ቅሩብ ከ ክንደይ ንሕመል ትብሉ ትኾኑ? ሃገራት ንርእሰን እየን ዝሰርሓ። ኣመሪካ ከ ንሃገራዊ ረብሓኣ ብዘሰስን እንተሰርሓት ኣብ ዓለም ሓዲሽ ድዩ? ተንኮላትን ሸርሕታትን ኣመሪካ እንተሃለወ ከ ንዕኡ ዘፈሽል ሜላ ዘይምክታልን ኣብ መጻወድያኡ ዘይምእታውን ሓላፍነትኩም ‘ዶ ኣይኮነን? እንተደኣ ኣመሪካ ዓመት ድሕሪ ዓመት ኣላሽ ተብለኩም ኮይና እቲ ሕመቕ መን እዩ ዝስከሞ? ኣመሪካ ንረብሃኣ እምበር ንረብሓ ኤርትራ ኣይክትሰርሕን እያ። ክትሰርሕ እውን ዝጽበያ የለን። ምምሕዳራት ኣመሪካ ብሕጊ ዝምእዘዝን ቁጽጽር ዝግበረሉን እዩ። መራሕቲ ኣመሪካ፡ ንረብሓ ኣመሪካ ክሰርሑ እዮም ማሕላ ዝጠቕዑ። ብውልቃዊ ዕርክነትን ሕብእብእን ኣይኮነን ዝሰርሑ ። ብናይ ውልቀሰባት ዊንታ ዝቀያየርን ዝጠዋወን ኣይኮነን (ኢሰያስ፡ ምስ ሓለፍቲ ጉዳያት ወጻኢ ኣመሪካ ብዝነበሮ ኩራ፡ ኤርትራ ክሳርኣ ክተውሕድ ወይ መክሰባታ ክተዕቢ ዝነበራ ዕድላት ቆምሲሉ ከምዝተረፈ ይንገረሉ እዩ)። እዚ ትፈልጥዎ ኢኹም። እናፈለጥኩም፡ ንኩምራ ሕመቕኩምን ፍሽለትኩምን ናብ ኣመሪካ ምስልባጥ ነታ “ቆምሽ ኣደይ ሓንኲሉኒ “ እትብል ምስላ የዘኻኽረኒ። እስከ እዚ ክስታትኩም ንርኣዮ። ብሓቂ ማይ ዘየሕልፍ ስጥም-ግጥም ዝበለ ይመስል ‘ዶ ይኸውን? ጭብጥታት ኣቕሪብኩም ስለዘይትፈልጡ፡ ሓደ ናጻ ኣእምሮ ዝውንን ተራ ሰብ ንክስታትኩም ብከመይ ክርእዮ ከምዝኽእል ከርኢ ክፍትን እየ። ተራ ሰብ ማለተይ እየ። (እዚ ናይ ወያነ ‘ዩ ትብሉ እንተኰንኩም፡ ጭብጥታት ክተቕርቡ ብትሕትና ትሕተቱ- ጭብጥታት ምቕራብ ብዙሕ ትጽቢት ዝግበረሉ ‘ኳ እንተዘይኮነ)።

          ሀ- ኣመሪካ ንናጽነትና ኣይተኣምንን ‘ያ። ንሕና እንኮ በዳህቲ ኣስፋሕፋሒ ፖሊሲ ኣመሪካ!

          ደድሕሪ ረፈረንዱምን ምእዋጅ ናጽነትን፡ ፕረሲደንት ክልንተን ከብቶም ቀዳሞት ናይ ዮሃና መልእኽቲ ዝሰደዱ መራሕቲ ዓለም እዩ ኔሩ። መንግስቲ ህግድፍፍ እውን ኣቓልቦ ኣመሪካ ክስሕብ ኣንጊሁ እዩ ተበጊሱ። ነዊሕ ከይገበረ፡ መራሒ ኤርትራ ብዘይ ምረቓ ህዝብና ንዕላማታ ኣመሪካ ብወኪልነት (ከዳምነት ክትብልዎ ትኽእሉ ኢኹም) ከሳልጥ ይጓየ ከምዝነበረ ናይ ትማሊ ዝኽሪ እዩ። ንመንግስቲ ሱዳን ንምውዳቕ ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ዝተገብረ ልፍንትን ከም ውጽኢቱ ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ልኡላዊ መሬት ሱዳን ጥሒሱ ክሳብ ቶኮር ከም ዝበጽሐን፡ ብጾትና ኣብ ዓበይቲ ቀላያት፡ ክሳብ ኮንጎ፡ ከም ዝተላእኩ ‘ኮ ኣይተረሰዐን። ናይቲ ዕንደራ መወልትን ደፋፋእትን መን ኔሮም? ኣመሪካውያን። ” መን እሙን ዓርኪ ኣመሪካ ይኸውን” ኣብ ዝብል ህልኽ ምስ መንግስቲ ወያነ ኣብ ቅልስ ተጸሚዱ ዝነበረ መን ድዩ? እንተ ከዳሚ ንበሎ እንተ ወኪል፡ ብርግጽ መንግስቲ ህግድፍ እዩ ኔሩ። ስለ’ዚ፡ 1- ኣመሪካ ንናጽነት ኤርትራ ምእማና ኣብ መዝገብ ኣሎ፤ 2- በዳህቲ ኣመሪካ ዘይኮነስ ብዘይ ፍቓድ ህዝብና፡ ብዋጋ መንእሰያት ኤርትራ ፖሊሲታት ኣመሪካ ክተተግብሩ ትጓየዩ ከምዝነበርኩም ኣይተረሰዐን። በዚ ከኣ፡ እዚ ምጉት እዚ ውዱቕ ይኸውን።

          ለ- ካልእ ዝደጋገም ሕቶ ጂኦፖለቲክስ እዩ። ኤርትራ ኣብ ኣገዳሲ ዞባ ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ስለትርከብ ብኣመሪካ ዝዝወር መንግስቲ ክትተክል ትደሊ። (ያኢ፡ ብኣኣ ከምዘይተዘወሩ- ኣብ ላዕሊ ዘሎ ነጥቢ ረአ)

          ዝሑል ኵናት ኣብቂዑ እዩ። ኣመሪካ ኣብ ቃኘው ይኹን ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ኤርትራ ክትሰፍር ኣየድልያን እዩ። ምዕባለ ተክኖሎጂ ኣጽዋር ውግእ ይኹን ዳግመ-ስርርዕ ወተሃደራውን ጸጥታውን ሓይልታት ዓለም ነዚ ብሉይ ዶክትሪን ኵናት ቻው (ባይ-ባይ) ኢልዎ እYU። ኣመሪካ ኣብቲ ከባቢ ዘድልያ መደበራት ኣለዋ። ንኤርትራ ዝቐረበ እቲ ኣብ ጂቡቲ ዘሎ እዩ። ነዚ ኣብ ጂቡቲ ዘሎ መደበር እዚ ኣብ ኤርትራ ንምግባሩ መራሕቲ ህግድፍ ዝገበርዎ ፈተነ ተጻሒፍሉ እዩ። ስለ’ዚ በጃኹም ኣዕርፉና። ተቐናቐንቲ ኣመሪካ ኮይንኩም ኣይትቕረቡ። ኣብቲ ኩርክስ እትጉዳእ ኤርትራ እያ። ኣብ ጉስጢ ክብደትካ ምፍላጥ ወሳኒ እዩ። ልቦም ክትሰልቡ ትጓየሉሎም ነይርኩም ከ ኢልና ‘ዶ? ስለ’ዚ፡ ካልእ ውዱቕ ምጉት ንበሎ።

          ሐ- ዕዳጋ ክንኮነሎም ይደልዩ፡ ንእሽቶን ድኻን ህዝቢ ኢና። ስለዚ፡ ንዕዳጋ ሃለኽቲ ኣመሪካውያን ክሳብ ሕጂ እንነወናውን ኣይኮናን። ተስፋ ኣሎኒ ክንክውን። በዚኣ ንሕለፋ።

          መ- ሃብትና ክምዝምዙ ደልዮም። ክሳብ ሕጂ ኩዌት ወይ ዛየር ኣይኮናን ዘለና። ንኣመሪካ ክሳብ ክንድ’ዚ ዘጸልል ሃብቲ ዛጊት ኣይተለለየን። ተስፋ እገብር ክርከብ። ካልእ ውዱቕ ምጉት።

          ሐ- ኣመሪካ ንኣፍሪቃ ኣብ ዞባታት ከፋፊላ ብጎባልል ዝበሃላ ሃገራት ክትቆጻጸራ ትደሊ (ህግድፍ ከዳምነት እዩ ዝብሎ)። ተዛረብቲ እንግሊዘኛ ከምዚ ከጋጥሞም ከሎ “ So, what?” ይብሉ። እዚ ‘ሞ ሓድሽ ድዩ? ንውሽጣዊ ናጽነት ናይተን ካልኦት ሃገራት( እተን ዘይጎባልል) ከ ብከመይ ይጸልዎ? ንኣብነት፡ ኢትዮጵያ ወኪል ኣመሪካ ኣብ ምብራቕ ኣፍሪቃ እያ ንበል። እዚ ተራ’ዚ ወይ status ንውሽጣዊ ናጽነት ከንያ ወይ ዩጋንዳ ወይ ርዋንዳ ብከመይ ይጸልዎ? ኣመሪካ ከ ምስ ዝተፈላለየ ሃገራት ብዝተፈላለየ ደረጃታት ዝምድና ክትገብር መሰላ ‘ዶ ኣይኮነን? ንሳ ‘ኮ ንሃገራዊ ረብሓኣ እያ ትሰርሕ። ሕራይ’ስከ እዚ ምጉት እዚ ቅሩብ ‘ዶ ሓቂ ይኸውን ንበል። እሞ ካልኦት እንተከደሙ ህግድፋውያን እንታይ ዓጠጦም? ዘይምክዳም ተረፎም። ከምዚ ዓይነት ርእሰ-ምዕባይን ምትዕናናትን ህግድፍ ዝጀመሮ ዘይኮነስ ካብቶም ገና ንዜጋታቶም ዓፊኖም ዘለዉን ካብቶም ዜጋታቶም ዝደርበይዎምን ብልሽዋት ዲክተተራት ዝተማህሮ እዩ። ከክፍኡ ኣብ ምምሃር መቸም ዝቅድሞ የለን። ነቶም ክሓቱካ ዕድል ዘይብሎም ወይ ድማ ነቶም ከብዶም መኺርዎም ሰማዕቲ ጥራይ ክኾኑ መሪጾም ዘለዉ ክተጸምም ትኽእል ኢኻ። ስለ’ዚ፡ ኣኳስ ምጉት እዩ ምባሉ ይከኣል።

          ሰ- ወያነ ዘይኮነስ ኣመሪካ እዩ ተዋጊኡና። ዶብና ክሕንጸጽ እውን ኣይትደልን እያ።

          ምኽሪ ኣመሪካ ሰሚዕካ ኔርካ እንተትኸውን ብዙሕ ሂወት ምደሓነ ‘ሞ ሎሚ ገጽ ብዙሓት ኣደታትና ፍሽኽታ ዓሲልዎ ደቂ-ደቀን ከሰራስራ ምረኣና ኔርና። ክሳራ ክልቲኡ ህዝብታት ምወሓደ ኔሩ። እቲ ሓቂ፡ ኣመሪካ ካብ መጀመሪያ ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ካብቲ ”ይግበኣኒ” ‘ዩ እትብሎ ቦታ፡ ናይ ይብጸሓኒ መሰላ ብዘይትንክፍ ደረጃ ናብ ዝነበሮ ቦታ ክምለስን እቲ ምስሕሓብ ብሰላም ክፍታሕን ጽዒራ እያ። እቲ ኵናት ምስ ቀጸለ እውን ክልቲኡ ወገናት ቶኵሲ ደው ከብሉ ብዘይ ዕርፍቲ ሰሪሑ። ስምምዕ ኣልጀርስ ብቀንዱ ንውድብ ሓድነት ኣፍሪቃን ሕቡራት ሃገራትን(UN) ይምልከት። ኣቲ ስምምዕ ትጽቢት ዘንበረሉ ምትሕብባር ክልቲኡ ወገናት እዩ ነይሩ። ስለ’ዚ፡ ሓደ ወገን እንተሓንጊዱ ንምትግባሩ ብሓይሊ ወይ ብውግእ ወይ ብእገዳ ክግደድ እዩ ዝብል ኣንቀጽ ይኹን ሓረግ የብሉን። እዚ ከኣ እዩ እቲ ድኹም ጎኒ ናይቲ ስምምዕ። እዚ ይኹን እቲ፡ ክሳብ ሕጂ መርገጺ ኣመሪካ፡ ንብይን ናይቲ ኣህጉራዊ ቤት-ፍርዲ ዝቅበልን ንኢትዮጵያ ነቲ ፍርዲ ከምዘለዎ ክትቅበሎ ዝጽውዕን ‘ዩ። ኣብ ቦታ ኤርትራ ኮይና ንኢትዮጵያ ክትዋጋእን መሬት ኤርትራ ክትሕርርን ግን ትጽቢት ዝግበረላ ኣይመስለንን።

          ንእግረ-መንገድና፡ ኣብ 1998፡ ኲናት ዶብ ጀሚሩ ምስ ሰማዕኩ ከኣምኖ ኣሽጊሩኒ። ባድመ ኣብ መፋርቅ ሰማንያታት ውዒለ ሓዲረሉ ኣለኹ። ሽዑ እውን ኣብ ትሕቲ ወያኔ ኔሩ። ብዛዕባ እዚ ቦታ’ዚ ዝነበረ ናይ ጀብሃ ይኹን ድሕርኡ ዝሰዓበ ፖሊሲ ህ.ግ.ሓ.ኤ. እፈልጦ እየ። ድሕሪ ናጽነት፡ ኣሃዱ ካርቶግራፊ ወያነ ወሰናስን ከጽብቡን ከግፍሑን ከምዝከረመን ሓረስቶት ኡይ ይብሉ ከምዝነበሩን ይዝከር። ቀቅድሚ እቲ ውግእ ኣብ ዝነበራ ሳምንታት፡ ኢሰያስ ኣብ ዶብ ክልቲአን ሃገራት ጥይት እውን ዘተኩስ ኩነታት ከምዘይነበረ እዩ ዝዛረብ ነይሩ። መራሕቲ ህግድፍ፡ ከም ልሙድ ኣሰራርሓ፡ ኣብ ኣህጉራዊ መጋባእያታት ኣቤቱታ እንተዘቅርቡን (ንኣብነት ውድብ ሕ.ሃን ውድብ ው.ሓ.ኣን) ነቲ ሽግር ኣብ ቅድሚ ዓለምን ህዝቦምን እንተዘልዕልዎን ብሰላም ክፈትሕዎ ፈተነታት ገይሮም ነይሮም እንተዝኾኑ ሃንደበት ኣይምኾነን። ምናልባት እውን ከም ርእሰ-ምክልኻል ክትርጎም ምተፈተነ። ኣብ ዓለምና ምስሕሓብ ዶባት ዘለወን ሃገራት ብዙሓት እየን። ገሊአን ‘ሞ ኑክሌር ዝውንና እየን። ይኹን እምበር፡ ናይ መጀመርያ ወስተአን ብታንክታት ዝገበርኦ እንተለዋ ኣዝየን ውሑዳት እየን። ህ.ግ. ኣብ ሰማንያታት ልቦና ከርኢ እንከሎ፡ ምስ ግዜ ዝያዳ በሲሉ ይኸውን ኢልና ኣብ እተጸበናሉ መወዳእታ ትስዓታት ግን ናይ ምምዛን ዓቅሙ ኣጕሂዩና። እቲ ውድብ ድሮ ብህግድፋውያን ተጨውዩ ኔሩ። ንሓደ ከብቶም ንሃገርና ኣብ ሰለሎ ኣእቲዩ ዘሎ ዕንደረኦም ደፋፊኦምልናን ኣስገዲዶምልናን። ሳላ እቶም ኣብ ጥራሕ ጎላጉል ደንካልያን ኣብ ሰናጭሮታት ዳሴን ኣብ ዝባውንቲ ከበሳን ንሓጻውንቲ ዘምከኹ ጀጋኑና’ምበር ሎሚ እቲ ጸወታ ካልእ ምኾነ።( ንሓበሬታ፡ እቲ ኲናት ክውገድ ዝግበኦ ከምዝነበረ ናይ ሽዑ እምነተይ ኔሩ። ሕጂ ውን ጸኒዐሉ ኣለኹ)። ኣቶ ኢሰያስ፡ ነቲ ኵናት ሎሚ ወሊዕዎ ኔሩ እንተዝኽውን፡ እንተወሓደ ምኽኑይ ምኾነ። እዚ ንምጉት እምበር ኵናት ስለዝምነ ኣይኮንኩን። ድሌተይ ንደቅና ኵናት ዘይኮነስ፡ ሰላምን ፍትሕን ርትዕን ዝሰፈና ሃገር ክንገድፈሎም እዩ።

          እቲ ቁምነገር፡ መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ እቲ ብይን ብዘይ ዕጸምጸ ክትግብርን ህግድፍ ኣመሪካ ኣየተግበረትለይ ኢሉ ዝገብሮ ብኽያት ሕንቁቅ ቆልዓ ከቋርጾ ኣለዎ። ብፍላይ ትግራዎት፡ እቲ ኲናት ካብ ካልኦት ኢትዮጵያውያን ዝያዳ ንስኹም ተሃሲኹምሉ። መቸም፡ ዝኾነ ኮይኑ እዩ። ይኹን እምበር፡ ንመራሕትኹም ታሪኽ ክተዘኻክርዎምን እቲ ጉዳይ ብዘይወዓል ሕደር በቲ ተበዪኑዎ ዘሎ ክፍታሕ ጸቅጢ ክትገብሩሎም ሓላፍነት ኣለኩም። ዝምድና ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ከም ክሉ ካልእ ጎረባብቲ ብሓጎጽጎጽ ዝመልአ ምዃኑ ይርደኣኒ እዩ። ግን ብሓንሳብ ጠሚናን ደሚናን ሓዚንናን ኢና። ኣዕጽምቲ ትግራዎት ኣብ በረኻታት ሳሕል ኣሎ። ኣዕጽምቲ ኤርትራውያን እውን ኣብቲ ተልምዕዎ ዘለኹም መሬት ከምዘሎ ኣይትስሕትዎን። ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ካብ ብኲናትን ምትፍናን ዝረኽብዎ ብስኒትን ምትሕግጋዝን ዝረኽብዎ መክሰብ ይበዝሕ። እዚ ድማ በቲ ነቶም ኣብ ትሕቲ ዕቍባኹም ዘለዉ ኤርትራውያን እትገብርዎ ኣተሓሕዛ ይጅምር። ሓገዝ ኤርትራውያን ተነፊጉኩም ኣይፈልጥን እዩ እሞ ሓገዝኩም ኣይፈለዮም። እዚ ክፉእ ግዜ’ዚ ክሓልፍ እዩ። ባህልታት ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ንሓደጋ ዝምነን ዝወራዘየሉን ኣይእንግድን እዩ።

          ሸ- ንሶማል ካባና ዝብጸሖ ወገን የለን። ኣመሪካ ብካዳሚኣ ወያነ ክትቆጻጸራ ደልያ።

          ህግድፍ ንኣልሸባብ ሓገዝ ይህብ ‘ዩ ወይ ውን ናይ ስራሕ ዝምዳና ኣለዎም ንምባል ዘኽእል ጭብጥታት ዘቕረበ ወገን ዘሎ ኣይመስለንን። እቲ ብጸላእቲ ኤርትራ ርኡይ ብዝኾነ ዝተፈብረከን ዝተቃመመን “መርትዖታት” ሕምቀት መራሕትና ነይሩ እንተዘይከውን ኣብ ክትዕ እውን ኣይምቐረበን። ግን ምሩር ምሩር እዩ። ሕመቕ ዝለገቦ ሰብ፡ ድኹማት ይቅድምዎ፤ ገበነኛታት ይረትዕዎን ትንዕ-ትንዕ ይበዝሖን።

          ሶማሊያ ብዙሓት ሓይልታት ከምዝተቀያየሩላን መራሕቲ ህግድፍ ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ቁርቁስ ኣትዮምላ ከምዝነበሩን ካልእ ግንባር ንምፍጣር ከምዝጸዓሩን ግን ንሶም እውን ኣይክሕድዎን። መራሕቲ ህግድፍ፡ ሶማል ንናጽነት ኤርትራ ስለዘበርከተቶ ሓገዛት ጽቡቓ ንምምላስ ሞራላዊ ሓላፍነት ኣሎና ‘ውን ክብሉ ይስምዑ እዮም። ንዓመታት፡ ኣክንዲ ምስ ማሕበረሰብ ዓለም፡ ኣንጻሩ ክረባረቡ ድሕሪ ምጽናሕ ሕጂ ብሃንደበት ኣንፈት ቀዪሮም ምስኡ ናብቲ ቅኑዕ ኣንፈት ክሕንብሱ ጀሚሮም ኣለዉ። ግን ህግድፍ ደንጉዩ እዩ ልቢ ኣዕቢዩ- ናይ ብሓቂ ውጽኢት ዕቤትን ልብምናን እንተኾይኑ።( እቲ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት ንግምቶ ንኸውን)። እዚ ዕንደራታት እዚ፡ ንሃገርና ድሕሪ ምብርቛስ ህግድፍ ክጸንሕ ዝኽእል እገዳን ሕማቕ ስምን ኣስዒቡላ ኣሎ። ውጽኢት ዕንደረኦም በንጻር ትጽቢቶም ንኢትዮጵያ ኣርቢሑ። ኢትዮጵያውያን ከይተዋግኡ ስግኣት ኤርትራ ደሪቶሞ ማለት እዩ። ንሶም ክዓጥቁ ከለዉ ንሕና መቀያየሪ ናይቲ ኣሪጉ ዘሎ ኣጽዋርና እውን ክንረክብ ኣይንኽእልን። ካብዚ ዝኸፍአ ሃገራዊ ስግኣት የለን። እዚ እቲ ኣብ ልዕሊ ቁጠባ ሃገርና ወሪዱ ዘሎ ዕንወት ‘ዩ።

          ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ባእሲ እንከለዉ፡ ኣመሪካ ኣንጻሮም ምዃና እናፈለጡ፡ ከመይ ኢሎም ኣብ ከምዚ ዝኣመሰለ መጻወድያ ይኣትዉ? ከመይ ጌሮም ንኢትዮጵያ ዲል ይህቡ? እስከ ንማለቱ፡ ብወገን ሶማል ክፍጠር ዝተሓስበ ግንባር ወላ ሓዪሉ እንተዝኸውን፡ ንሱ ዝፈጥሮ ጸቅጥን ብወገን ኢትዮጵያ ንዕኡ ዝውገን ሰራዊትን ንወተሃደራዊ ስትራተጂ ሰሜን ኢትዮጵያ ክሳብ ክንደይ ምጸለዎ? ከብዚ ዘሎ ኩነታት ኢትዮጵያ ትረብሕ ከምዘላ ፍሉጥ እዩ። እሞ መን እዩ እቲ ከዳሚ? ኣመሪካ ድያ ንኢትዮጵያ ትክድም ዘላ ወይስ በንጻሩ? ነዛ ምጉት እዚኣ ቅሩብ እንተሳለናያ፡ መን ንመን እዩ ዝኽድም? ኢሰያስ ድዩ ዝከደመ ወይስ ቀዛፊ፡ ቀጠር ድዩስ ወይስ ህግድፍ፡ ኣልበሺር ድዩ ወይስ ኢሰያስ እቲ ከዳሚ? ናተይ ቋንቋ ኣይኮነን። ኣነ ዝምድናታት እየ ዝብሎ።

          ዝምድናታት ሃገራት፡ ኣብ ዓምን ከዳምን ዘይኮነ ኣብ ምክብባርን እንካን ሃባን ‘ዩ ዝምስረት። ሓባራዊ ረብሓ ኢሎም እውን ይጽውዕዎ ‘ዮም መስለኒ። ንፉዕ መራሒ ከብዚ ዝምድናታት ክረኽቦ ዝኽእል ረብሓ ከምዝብርክትን ዝኽዕብትን ይገብር። ብኣምልኾ ነብሶም ዝሻቀሉ መራሕቲ ግን እዚ ክርደኦም የጸግሞም እዩ። መለኾታዊ ሓይሊ ዘለዎም ስለ ዝመስሎም፡ ዓለም እምበር ንሶም ዝጋገዩን ኮይኑ ኣይስመዖምን። ኣዱንያ ኣብ ዙርየኦም እተኹድድ ‘ዩ ዝመስሎም። ውሳነኦም ዝዓጽፍ፡ ድምጾም ዝዕብልልን ድምቀቶም ዘህስስን ዘሎ ኣይመስሎምን እዩ። ወርሕን ጸሓይን ንዕኦም ክውድሳ ኣብ ቀጻሊ ታንጎ ዘለዋ ኮይኑ እዩ ዝስመዖም። ሳዳም ሑሴን ብጀነራላቱ ዝወሃቦ ዝነበረ “ኣመሪካውያን ይሰዓሩ ኣለዉ” ዝብሉ ጸብጻባት እና ኣመነ እዩ ብሃንደበት ናይ እግረይ-ኣውጽእኒ ሓደጋ ዝወደቖ። ቀዛፊ ብውድቀቱ ከይኣመነ እዩ ተበሳሲዑ። ጸገም ናይዞም ውልቀምልካውያን፡ ሕመቖም ናይ ግድን ካልእ ዝፈጠሮ ክኸውን ኣለዎ ኢሎም ስለዝኣምኑ እዩ። ደሓር ከኣ ብኣተሓሳስበኦም ሰብ እምበር ንሶም ኣይጋገዩን- ንርእሶም ልዕለ ሰብ ምስ ወሰድዋ እዮም። ኣማኸርቶም ‘ውን ጽቡቕ ስራሕ ኣይሰርሑን። እቲ ክዉን ዘይኮነስ፡ ቀርበቶም መታን ከይጽይቑ፡ ንመራሕቶም ዝሕጉስን መራሕቶም ዝጽበይዎን ሰናኒዖም የቕርቡሎም። ሕመቕ ኣብ ርእሲ ሕመቕ። ክሳብ ሕመቖም ጸቒጥዎም ዝቅበሩ።

          ፍትሕን ርትዕን ንህዝብና

          ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ

          • dine

            America doesn’t decide which country will be regional power or not. any country that has power(economy + military ) within a geographic region is a regional power, in east Africa 1,Ethiopia 2,Kenya 3,Tanzania are regional powers, world power and other regional powers prefer to work with stronger countries to protect their national interest everywhere in the world.

          • Hope

            Well, try to know or read something before you bluff

          • Yodita

            ክቡር ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ፡

            ብመጀመርያ እዚ ትኩርን ንጹርን ጽሑፍካ ብትግርኛ ምንባብ ከም ዘስተማቕሮ
            ስለ ዝጠቐመኒ ዕዙዝ ምስጋይ ይብጻሕካ።

            ብተወሳኺ አብ ሃገርና መራሕቲ ህግድፍ ከይተረፈ ንጽሑፍካ ፈትፊቶም ከምዘንብብዎ
            ጥርጥር የልቦን። እቲ ንሳቶም ብሓሶት ንህዝቢ ከታልሉዎ ኢሎም ዝሓቑንዎ ሽጣራታት ፍርጥዕጥዕ ኣቢልካ በቲ ልዙብ ትግርኛኻ እቲ ሓቀኛ ስእሊ ከተቐምጠሎም ከለኻ፣ ህግደፋውያን ድቃስ ይስእኑ፣ ተገጢምና አምበር ኢሎም አስናኖም ይሕርቅሙ፣ አብ ልዕሊቲ ብዝተፈላለየ ቨነኻት ዝመጾም ዘሎ ቅልውላዋት ተወሲኹ ድማ ሕንዚዝ ይሰርሖም፤ ውድቀቶም ድማ ይቀላጠፍ።

            አሻሓት ዘይህግደፋውያን ሓበሬታ ተነፊጉዎም ብሓሶት ዝጸመሙ ድማ አቲ ሓቀኛ
            ኩነታት ይበርሃሎም። አዚ አብ ሃገርና ዘሎ ስርዓት ከኣ “ብዝኾነ፡ ብቀደሙ ሓላፍነት ዘይስመዖ ጉጅለ ማፍያ እዩ ሃገርና ዝገዝእ ዘሎ።” ኢሎም ከኣ ናብ ለውጢ
            ገጾም የድህቡ።

            አገናዕ ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ ሓወይ።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Thanks Yodita.

          • Hope

            Are you then denying the role and the STAND of the USA for the last 60yrs?
            Are you denying the direct role of the USA and the Jewish State of Israel during the “Border War”?
            Are you denying the open role of the USA in attempting to change the EEBC decision?
            Are you denying the “Follow UP” roles of the USA after the EEBC decision in supporting a “Regime Change” rhetoric and attempts by the Weyanes?
            Are you denying the direct role of the USA in sanctioning Eritrea after the repeated ‘Prayers” of the Weyanes to their master/god?
            Are you denying the underground evil business being cooked up since 1994 between the Weyanes and the USA on Eritrea?
            Are you denying the repeated provocations of the Weyanes before 1998(you admitted partially the suffering and harassment of the Eritreans in the border, which the PFDJ was fully aware and “ignored” to avoid escalation but you ignored conveniently the open aggression of Adi Murug in 1997 on a day light.
            Elaborating or writing things in Tigrigna and/or quoting Assenna(an official mouth piece of the weyanes against Eritrea),will NOT changes the facts on ground.
            you are dealing with Eritreans, who have at least your kind of Brain, if not ,way better Brain by all standard.
            The USA accepted the 99.99999% referendum Vote of the Eritreans as a PR gimmick only but never accepted the real Independence of Eritrea as the State department classified documents may show you.
            The latest Official Forms of the USCIS or even some basic online USA data will not show Eritrea as a Nation.
            Yodita—be cautious and clarify your stand on Eritrea —before Ermias catches you on a day light with your pants down

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear hope, too many questions, most of them treated in the article. I’m aware of the history of US/Ethio-Eritrean relations. You are smart enough to discern the theme of the article. I don’t take your opinion personal.

          • tes

            Dear Mahmud,

            thank you for your patience to give such an enlightening explanation. And thank you for the shared article you put here. Keep going and unite your energy to enlighetn us by all means.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam tes: Thank you for reading my comment and for the encouraging sentences.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear hope, earlier I gave
            you a short answer because I was busy; but later when I read your diligent
            critical notes; I thought you deserve a better response. The following are my
            answers to your questions.

            1. Are you then denying
            the role and the STAND of the USA
            for the last 60yrs?
            My answer: “ ናይ ጆን ፎስተር ዳለስ ጥቅሲ ትደጋገም እያ። ንሳ ቅድሚ ኣስታት 70 ዓመታት ኣብ ኣዝዩ ዝተፈልየ ኩነታት ዓለምናን መዋእልን ዝተባህለት እያ። እቲ ዝሰዓበ መርገጺ ኣመሪካ ዘገደደ ኩነታት እውን ሎሚ የለን። ኣመሪካ ዝወሰደቶ ናይ ሽዑ መርገአጺ ኣንፈት ታሪኽና ከምዝቀየረን ድሕርኡ እውን ኣመሪካ መሰል ርእሰ-ውሳነ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ንምጉዕጻጽ ኣሉታዊ ተራ ከም ዝነበራን ምዝጉብ እዩ። ይኹን እምበር፡ ካብ ሽዑ ንደሓር፡ ኣብ ዓለም ብዙሕ ለውጥታት ተራእዩ….” That should answer it.

            2. Are you denying the direct role of the USA
            and the Jewish State of Israel during the “Border War”?
            My answer: Well,tell me please, but support your rhetoric with verifiable evidence; reliable
            sources are fine. How do you answer this then? Again from my article, “ነዊሕ ከይገበረ፡ መራሒ ኤርትራ ብዘይ ምረቓ ህዝብና ንዕላማታ ኣመሪካ ብወኪልነት (ከዳምነት ክትብልዎ ትኽእሉ ኢኹም) ከሳልጥ ይጓየ ከምዝነበረ ናይ ትማሊ ዝኽሪ እዩ። ንመንግስቲ ሱዳን ንምውዳቕ ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ዝተገብረ ልፍንትን ከም ውጽኢቱ ሰራዊት ኤርትራ ልኡላዊ መሬት ሱዳን ጥሒሱ ክሳብ ቶኮር ከም ዝበጽሐን፡ ብጾትና ኣብ ዓበይቲ ቀላያት፡ ክሳብ ኮንጎ፡ ከም ዝተላእኩ ‘ኮ ኣይተረሰዐን። ናይቲ ዕንደራ መወልትን ደፋፋእትን መን ኔሮም? ኣመሪካውያን። ” መን እሙን ዓርኪ ኣመሪካ ይኸውን” ኣብ ዝብል ህልኽ ምስ መንግስቲ ወያነ ኣብ ቅልስ ተጸሚዱ ዝነበረ መን ድዩ? እንተ ከዳሚ ንበሎ እንተ ወኪል፡ ብርግጽ መንግስቲ ህግድፍ እዩ ኔሩ። ስለ’ዚ፡ 1- ኣመሪካ ንናጽነት ኤርትራ ምእማና ኣብ መዝገብ ኣሎ፤ 2- በዳህቲ ኣመሪካ ዘይኮነስ ብዘይ ፍቓድ ህዝብና፡ ብዋጋ መንእሰያት ኤርትራ ፖሊሲታት ኣመሪካ ክተተግብሩ ትጓየዩ ከምዝነበርኩም ኣይተረሰዐን። በዚ ከኣ፡ እዚ ምጉት እዚ ውዱቕ ይኸውን።” I hope you
            remember this, plus this, “ነዚ ኣብ ጂቡቲ ዘሎ መደበር እዚ ኣብ ኤርትራ ንምግባሩ መራሕቲ ህግድፍ ዝገበርዎ ፈተነ ተጻሒፍሉ እዩ። ስለ’ዚ በጃኹም ኣዕርፉና” again this is from the same article,
            and you may remember Donald Rumsfeld visit and Eritrean support of US invasion
            of Iraq; how could our beloved hgdf pal with the “Jewish State and US which you
            say had a direct role against Eritrea in the war? If it’s true, then
            PFDJ/Eritrean gov was what? Pragmatic? If it was pragmatic then why shouldn’t
            you expect it to be pragmatic later, now? If you regret asking me that then
            welcome aboard in criticizing PFDJ, I don’t question your patriotism.

            3. Are you denying the
            open role of the USA
            in attempting to change the EEBC decision?

            Are you denying the “Follow UP” roles of the USA after the EEBC decision in
            supporting a “Regime Change” rhetoric and attempts by the Weyanes?
            My answer: As far as I know the US stand on this issue is that the EEBC should be respected and Ethiopia should implement it as final and binding. PFDJ’s tactic to blackmail US by palling
            with terorists, like AWEY, who was wanted by the US, made Americans to lessen
            the diplomatic pressure they should have exerted on Addis. (Remember the
            frantic activities in launching counter US/UN conferences in Asmara, Awey was there. Why do you think US
            kicked the Taliban out of Kabul?)
            The article airs similar argument.

            4. Are you denying the direct role of the USA
            in sanctioning Eritrea
            after the repeated ‘Prayers” of the Weyanes to their master/god?
            My answer: Let me go to the article: “ህግድፍ ንኣልሸባብ ሓገዝ ይህብ ‘ዩ ወይ ውን ናይ ስራሕ ዝምዳና ኣለዎም ንምባል ዘኽእል ጭብጥታት ዘቕረበ ወገን ዘሎ ኣይመስለንን። እቲ ብጸላእቲ ኤርትራ ርኡይ ብዝኾነ ዝተፈብረከን ዝተቃመመን “መርትዖታት” ሕምቀት መራሕትና ነይሩ እንተዘይከውን ኣብ ክትዕ እውን ኣይምቐረበን። ግን ምሩር ምሩር እዩ። ሕመቕ ዝለገቦ ሰብ፡ ድኹማት ይቅድምዎ፤ ገበነኛታት ይረትዕዎን ትንዕ-ትንዕ ይበዝሖን…” Think as if you were foreign a diplomat from the State Dept. assigned to the Horn, what would you do if Asmara behaved against your national interest? Would you reward its antagonizing policies and posturing?
            The fact is what Eritrean Government pursued in Somalia
            was mission impossible and against Eritrea’s national interest. If you
            know Americans have been unfriendly towards Eritrea “for the last 60 years”,
            then I Would expect you to think we better be smarter because “ኣብቲ ኩርክስ እትጉዳእ ኤርትራ እያ። ኣብ ጉስጢ ክብደትካ ምፍላጥ ወሳኒ እዩ።”, taken from the article.

            5. Are you denying the underground evil
            business being cooked up since 1994 between the Weyanes and the USA on Eritrea?
            My answer: Now, this is a scary scene, Brother/sister Hope; and Rebi baalu yeqllo! “Underground evil business!!!!” However, here too, there are no surprises. There will always be secretive dealings and trading between nations, OK. What’s new about it? That’s how US conducts business with Russia, China…and the world. The game is full of alignments and realignments/ arm twisting…etc. Why should we expect them to treat us like “deqi maarey?” Why should they sever their national
            interest to fight for us? There is nothing that says like that in the Algiers Agreement.

            6. Are you denying the repeated provocations of the Weyanes before
            1998(you admitted partially the suffering and harassment of Eritreans in the
            border, which the PFDJ was fully aware and “ignored” to avoid
            escalation but you ignored conveniently the open aggression of Adi Murug in
            1997 on a day light.
            my answer: Have you ever thought of asking Eritrean officials/ the president why
            they did not tell the nation when Adi Murug was forcibly occupied by the
            Ethiopians/woyanes? Have you asked them why they did not evict woyane from Adi
            Murug or go to the UN/AU? Don’t you think what put us in this situation and
            what keeps us paralyzed is we, as citizens, let the regime do business in the
            dark (for instance the president was aware of our farmers plight in the border when
            they were being pushed around by Woyane when it was mapping out Abbay Tigray, and
            the occupation of Adi Murug, but he opted to solve it by employing his smart
            moves on Meles, Apparently his mojo did not work. I would call that the mother
            of all “underground evil business.”

            7. Elaborating or writing things in Tigrigna and/or quoting Assenna(an
            official mouth piece of the weyanes against Eritrea),will NOT changes the facts
            on ground.

            you are dealing with Eritreans, who have at least your kind of Brain, if not
            ,way better Brain by all standard.
            My answer: Tell me where I quoted Assenna. I have not
            sought, up to this point, any help. But if I feel the need to do so, I will not
            hesitate to seek the help of ASSENNA.COM (you label it Woyane mouth piece); I
            will go where the answer leads me. I did not need to google it either; I have
            lived it. And I surely hope we have a lot many smarter people than me, if not, Adi weilna.

            8. The USA
            accepted the 99.99999% referendum Vote of the Eritreans as a PR gimmick only
            but never accepted the real Independence of Eritrea as the State department
            classified documents may show you.

            The latest Official Forms of the USCIS or even some basic online USA data will not show Eritrea as a Nation.
            My answer: I am not a kid, Hope.

            Yodita—be cautious and clarify your stand on Eritrea
            —before Ermias catches you on a day light with your pants down

          • hope

            I am glad that you know the FACTS.I am satisfied that i relayed my message.It is your job to confirm or nullify the FACTS that I stated—based on histroy and documented FACTS.
            The “classifed” should read as ” declassified” CIA documents.I have no access to the ‘classified”.
            ones.
            we are talking about facts about the Eritrean History,NOT about your PFDJ that you are trying to target.
            As to the role of the USA and Israel during the border war,my source is the Deuche Ville(Voice of Germany,which comnfirmed that an Israeli High Level military Advisor was shot and wounded at Aseb front and was airlifted to Telashomer Medical Center in Tel Aviv and this radio Station is very reliable Radio station by any standard; and a US Marine ,who was stationed at the Red Sea international waters and a USA based Journalist from Florida and Juan William of the NPR based in Washuington ,DC,who clearly said openly that the USA wired more than half a billion USD overnight for Ethiopia’s Military spending–to Russia or Ukraine through Ireland…
            PFDJ hatred/failure should NOT lead to degrading Eritrea and her National Security and Interest.
            As to PIA “begging” the USA to get a Naval Base in Eritrea,yes he begged for it,albeit,belatedly.
            So,what is your point?had we allowed the USA to have a Naval Base in th eRed Sea,we would not be eterenal victims of the weyanes and,guess what,that was the exact reason the weynes worked hard and “prayed hard” to their god so that th eUSA will not have the base—Kudos to them and I agree with you on that.
            I am challenging you and your biased points,but am NOT supporting the PFDJ.do NOT tell me that your are another Haile the “g”.

          • tes

            dear hope,

            toblok-lok eko abzihka. Everybody with open hearted human being knows the true Eritrean history, unless you want to blush innocent people.

            Luckily, here in awate, we have people who did the history in which we are proud of and we criticize for better future. No one denies history except PFDJ and his puppets.

            Please enough for your ignorance!

          • Bjust

            And…we are supposed to understand what you just said above? Translator please…

          • SM

            The new born ignorant intellectual is the one who is trying to teach us some new history about The E. P. L. F and its Proven and EFFECTIVE Principles of Self-Reliance.

          • tes

            Dear SM,

            kindly, you have the right to say what you said to a degree that your inner core values are as such ignorant. No one is ignorant, even to know the existence of such new born ignorants is a blessing for rational thinking people. pfdjites had no apetite to learn, but to copy and apply and Self-reliance is not theirs, they applied it with forcedly collected 2% diaspora tax and Slavery of the entire people.

            Self-reliance is effective yes, to be the master of yourself. But who is the master? Each one, or the ruling regime? The regime should have left the entire Eritrean people to be reliable on themselves. he made them slaves, he made them accepters, he made them to live in KUPONS, 1 bread per day per person. The list is endless. Is that what a self-reliance is?

            PFDJ regime should have cultivated individual self-reliance and family reliance. these are the core stepping stones for the higher societal Self-reliance. But he destroyed the family by destroying the individuals. He made individuals SLAVES, if individuals are SLAVES, so is the FAMILY, and so is the COMMUNITY. I am not against Self-reliance, I am not against Social Justice, I am dissproofing what they claim is not like what they say.

            One thing, Ignorance is a Blessing for those who are really ignorant, but for those who preferred to stay ignorant, like you[??], it is a curse!

          • Bel

            You said “pfdjites had no apetite to learn….” If that is what you believe and please answer a simple question:
            You left Eritrea, just in 2012, then, wouldn’t you say, what ever you are or however your react or the level of knowledge you have is gained or shaped by the PFDJ, as you lived all your life there, you got your higher education there, you developed most of your world view there? Would not that mean you are basically a product of HGDF, whether you like it or not, consciously or unconsciously? (Compare that to Amanuel Hidrat’s detachment form Eritrea for long time, meaning he has was not exposed to PFDJ in any way or form. Meaning, he is a product of the outside world)
            If the above is true, and if your philosophical kind of talks here are to be taken any seriously and if we are to take you as smart, wouldn’t you say PFDJ really dis good if it is managing to produce philosophers like you? Well, of course, we see the weakness in the English language, reflected by your incoherent stuff you write here, but that is nothing

          • tes

            Dear Bel,

            I would appreciate for questioning my status. Your questions are good to the level that someone is
            naive. Fortunately, my search is inline to your questioning. I mean, “how PFDJ want us to perceive him.” He [pdfj] as the best giver of knowledge.

            Let me give you very simple answer, for what ever circumstance, human being learns, even under the brutal prison centers of pfdj, you will get hundreds of philosophers. Who came to question the unquestionable. I said earlier, Individuals are SLAVED in Eritrea, but, lets remember, even a slave learns from whatever means he got.

            let me just confront you with this: Just after I left Eritrea in 2012, I have got a chance to study in 7 universities in 4 different countries. Just within 1 year and 8 months. Imagine now what I am addressing to you. You can gues what I am learning and how fast and what a good environment. But, in 5 years stay in Eritrea during my university study, I spent all in one university. Can you
            imagine how closed I was?

            When I was in Eritrea, I was forced to shut-up not to speak for what I know, for what I observe, for what I philosophize. if you say, it is up to you, YES it is. Because, I know what the end fate was, Era-ero or in the many prison centers that are scattered all around the country. Many of them, underground.

            I studied in the only existed university of Eritrea (now officially no more) and it was at the time of political chaos and turmoil in Eritrea. I joined the university in 2001 (where G-15 got prisoned, the university students went to Wi’A) and Eritrea became under full dictatorship of DIA, many university students who were sent to South Africa openly opposed DIA, many more, and while I was there, the university stopped accepting new comers, new colleges opened their doors, and the university property was confiscated and handed to the colleges. And later, all staff members were forced to join the newly opened universities, the university closed its doors (2006). This was my period of study under PFDJ.

            Then, was I studying or observing on what was happening around me? I never got a good environment to study even I did not get a chance to be graduated in the university that I studied, I was kicked-of and forced to have the graduation ceremony in Mai-Nefhi (2007). No environment, no study dear Bel.

            For your record;

            PFDJ did nothing except destroying and corrupting the Eritrean educational system. Even the so-called newly opened colleges were not as he used to claim for. pfdj built only one institute (Mai-Nefhi) and two colleges (halhale and Adi-keih), the rest are just converted to college level (Hamelmalo Agricultural College, college of Marine science) or down-graded to college level (college of health) and opened one school of medicine (within Orrota hospital, in fact it was under the property of Nursing school that was stablished in 1950s in Mekane-hiwet).

            Dear bel, your counting is nothing but, you are telling me to count how good PFDJ did to me. But I challenge you; PFDJ corrupted my mind and left me to live in his JUNGLE, where, no future was possible to look for.

            But, remember, all human being have different way of experiencing life, interpreting life, learning process and sharing what they have within them. All I have is simply the result of a QUESTION TO THE UNQUESTINABLE, works of the curious mind, not, works of PFDJ mindset. I said PFDJ mind-set, because how you approached is nothing but what I am looking for: To worship PFDJ for the good deeds. I tell you though, PFDJ Betrayed me, betrayed us, he is a traitor.

            For the time being, because of my own technical problem, I am posting as Geust.

            hawka tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear hope:
            I noted your comments.

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Mahmud S.,

            That is great take indeed and I thank you for sharing it. It seems hope is in the offing.

          • haile

            ሓው ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ፡

            መቸም ሕማም ህግደፍ ግርም ገይርካ ኣነጺርካ’ዮ ኣሎኻ። ካብ ኩሉ ድማ መሃሪ ትሕዝቶኡ ናእዳ ይግብኦ። ርዱእ እዩ፡ ሓደ ሓደ ኤርትራውያን ብሰንኪ ከቢድ ሕጽረት ናይ ሓቤረታን፡ ድሩት ምክትታል እዋናዊ፡ ቅልጡፍን፡ ተገላባጥን ፖለቲካዊ ፈጽምታት ዓለምና፡ ግዳይ ሕሱር ላግጽን ኣሽካዕላልን ህግደፋዊ ትንታነታት ተሳጢሖም ዝተረፉ ኣለዉ። ህግደፍ ብሱር መሰረቱ ብብኩል ስነ-ኣተሓሳስባ ዝተዓብዓበ፡ ካብ ፍጹም ቅጥፈትን ብዕሉግ ኣካይዳን ብዝኾነ ተኣምር ክገላገል ዘይክእል፡ ካብ ጫፍ ናብ ጫፍ ብሓሶትን ምትላልን ዝተለበጠ፡ ንሞራላዊ ሕልና፡ ብስልታዊ በለጽ ተኪኡ ነብሱ ናብ ርእሰ-ባዶሽ ኣውሪዱ፡ ንሕሱር መጋበርያ ግዳማዊ በጋሚንዶታት ሃገር ኣሕሊፉ ዝሃበ ብኹን እዩ። እዚ ስርዓት እዚ ካብ ሱሩ ተማሕዩ፡ ኣዕሙቕካ ክቕበር ዘለዎ፡ መኻልፍ እዩ። እቲ ዘሕዝን ነገር ነብሱ ዝፈልጥ፡ ብኣበሱ ዝኾርዕ፡ ሕንከት ዘይፈልጥ፡ ከዳዕ ኣረመኔ ምኽዋኑ እናተረድኦ፡ ንሰባት ብውልቃዊ ድኽመታት ዝምዝምዝን፡ ኣብ ባህርያዊ ሕብረተሰባዊ ድሕረታት፡ተሞርኩሱ ገዛ ገዛ እናኣተወ ብከላ ዝነዝሕ፡ ሓበሬታ ከርዲኑ ቤላ ቤሎው ዘላብዕ ሓደገኛ ሕማምን፡ ሓጥያት ሕብረተሰብን ምኽዋኑ እዩ። ስለዚ ድማ’ዩ እቲ ስርዓት ምሉእ ብምሉእ ክጠፍእ ዘለዎ። ክሳዱ ተመልዒሱ፡ ብዘይ ንሕስያ ከም ተመን ተጨፍጪፉ፡ ክወድቕ ኣለዎ። ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምስ ሓራዲኡ ክነብር ከፍቅድ የብሉን። ሆ ኢሉ ምስ ዝልዓል ድማ፡ ንህግደፍ ብዘይ ወዓል ሕደር መናኒሁ ነበረያ ነበረ ክገብሮ፡ ካብቲ ዝድለ ንላዕሊ ሓይሊ ኣለዎ። እዚ ብኩል ስርዓትን ውሑዳት መንደላሓቕቱን ወለዶ ፍረ መስዋእቲ ክብዕልጉን፡ ብስልኳታት ኒሕ ደቂ ገርሂ-ልባ ከልምሱን ክሕደጉ የብሎምን። ኩሉ ህዝቢ ክላዓዓልን፡ ነዚ መንሽሮ ዝኾነ ስርዓት ሓማሺሹ፡ ከጥፈኦ ከነተብብዖ ይግባእ።

            Regards

          • Ermias

            ሃይልዋ፤ ኣየ ትግርኛ፥ ማራ ዝስሕብ ነንባቢኡ፤ ትሕዝቶ እሞ ኻኣ እንታይ ክወጾ፤ ሓንቲ መራር ሓቂ ግን እታ ገዛ ገዛ ኣትዮም ደቂ ገርሂ ልባ ዘታልሉ ዝጠቐስካያ፤ ኣዝዩ ሓደገኛን ኣስጋእን እዩ፥ ብቐረባ ዝፈልጦም ሰባት ግዳይ ናይዚ እከይ ተግባር ዝኾኑ ኣለው፥

          • haile

            ኤርሚ፡ ሓቅኻ’ሎኻ። እዚ ሓደ ሓደገኛ ገጽ ናይዚ ስርዓት እዩ። ኮይኑ ግን አቶም ተግበርቲ እንተስተውዓልካሎም፡ ዝጠፈሹን ካልእ ውሽጣዊ ጸገማት ዘለዎም እምበር ብእምነት ዝረዓምሉ ነገር እይኮኑን ዝትግብሩ ዘለዉ። እቲ ዝበለጸ ነገር፡ ብሙያ ዘለዎ ኣገባብ ጀሚርካ፡ ብዘይንሕስያ ክትደራዕሞምን፡ ከም ናይ ንዑቕ እተሓሕዛ ገይርካ ጥራይ ዝባኖም ከተውጽኦም ክትክእል ኣሎካ። እቲ ግጉይ ስልቲ፡ ዝኾነ ይኹን ክብሪ ክትህቦም ምፍታንን፡ ወይ እውን ሰሚዕካ ከምዘይሰማዕካ ክትሓልፎምን እዩ። ትኽ ብትኽ ክሰዓሩን፡ ቦቶኦም ከተትሕዞምን ክትክእል ኣሎካ። ኣብዚ ቀረባ እዋን ሓደ መጋበርያ ህግደፍ ዝኾነ ሓላፊ ኮም ናይ ከባብየይ እኩብ ምስረኸበኒ፡ ሰሉኹ ካብቲ ከባቢ ተሰዊሩ። ቕድም ኢልና፡ ፊት ንፊት ዝገጠምናሉ ኣጋጣሚ ስለዝነበረ። ብጸላም ከደኖን ሕሹኽሹኽን ስምካ ከይድውኑ ግን፡ ከቢድ ስልታዊ ምትዕጽጻፍ ከድልየካ’ዩ። የሳልጠልካ ፡-)

          • Ermias

            ሃይልዋ፤ ሓደ ካብቶም ዓበይቲ ጸገማት ዝባሃሉ፤ ኤርትራዊ ዳርጋ ብብዝሒ፤ እቲ ስርዓት ብቐሊሉ ወይ ኣብ ሓጺር ግዜ ክወድቕ እዩ ዝብል እምነት የብሉን፤ ስለዚ፤ እንታይ ገደሸኒ ቅድሚ ዝኣገረ ዝኸውን እንዳበለ፤ ህዝቢ ሱቕ ኢልካ ምርኣይ ይመርጽ፤ ህግደፍ ከምትፈልጦም ካኣ ስም ሰብ ናይ ምጥፋእ ፍሉይ ክእለት (specialist) ኣለዎም፤ ህዝብና ካኣ ካብ ምንጻልን ካብ ሰብካ ምፍላይን ንላዕሊ ዝፈርሖ ነገር ስለዘየለ፤ ኣብ ወጻኢ ኮይኑ ብሽቑረራ ይነብር ኣሎ፤፤ ዳሓር ካኣ ኣደይ ከይረኣኹ ኣቦይ ከይረኣኹ ኢሉ ኩሉ ጊዜ ንዓዲ ንምኻድ ኣብ ተጠንቀቕ ስለዝነብር፤ እታ ፍልይቲ መሰል (privilege) ናይ ዓዲ መእተዊት ክስእና ኣይደልን እዩ፤፤ ካብቲ ዝገርም ግን፤ ብገዛእ ኣሕዋትናን ኣሓትናን ዝመቱላን ዝሰንከሉላን ዓዲሲ፤ ብሌላን ጉሌላን ሰብ ክኣቱን ክወጽእን እንከሎ፤ ፍጹም የሕዝነካን የተሓሳስብካን፤፤

            እዚኣ እያ እታ ቀንዲ ንህዝብና ኢዱን እግሩን ኣትሒዛቶ ዘላ፥፤ ህግደፍ ግን ኣብ ናይ ለቓሕ ግዜ (borrowed time) ከም ዘለው ሰብ ብብዝሒ ክርዳእ ክኽእል ኣለዎ፤ ባዕሎም ሃው ኢሎም ክሃትፉ እዮም፤ ግን ኩሉ ህዝቢ እንተዝለእዓል ብሓደ፤ ኣይምወዓሉ ኣይምሓደሩ፤ እዛ ፈሪሕካ ድሕር ድሕር ግን፤ ንዕድመ ናይ ህግድፍ ከምተናውሕ ዘላ፤ ደጋጊምካ ገሊጽካዮ ኔርካ ኢኻሞ ኣብ ልቢና የሕድሮ፤፤

          • Ermias

            Mahmud Saleh, that is very elaborate and accurate. Please don’t quote me on this but I think it was IA himself that once said “ወይ ሓያል ኩን ወይ ምስ ሓያል ተጸጋዕ”. But I don’t remember when and in what occasion but I think it was in regards to the border issues like you mentioned.

            One thing I never ever understand is the gross and completely inaccurate underestimation of Ethiopia. Let me give you an analogy. Let’s say you and I are neighbors, each with many kids. You love your children so much (yes of course you love some more than others) and you are doing whatever it takes to put food on the plate for your kids. ልማኖ፤ ክድምና፤ ስሚንቶ ምፍሕፋሕ፤ ኩሉ ወላ እቲ ዝተሓተ ስራሓት፤ግን ደቅኻ ትዕንግልን ኣብ ጽቡቕ ትምህርቲ ትሰድድን፤፥ ኣነ ድማ ፤ ኣብ ክንዲ ኩሉ ዝከኣለንን ዝግባኣንን ዝገብር፥ወግሐ ጸብሐ ናይ ደቅኻን ገዛኻን ጽቡቕ ምንቁሻሽን፤ ምንእኣስን፤ እዚ ከዳሚ እዚ ለማኒ እንዳበልኩ ኣብ ገዛ ኣራጢጠ እንዳወዓልኩ ንደቀይ የጥሚ የዕርቕ ከምኡውን ኣደዳ ስደትን ጓሓላሉን ይገብሮም፤፤ መንና እዩ ግን እቲ ንፋዕ ወላዲ ዝበሃል፥፥

          • Mahmud Saleh

            ብኤርምያስ ኣቢለ ንኩሉኹም፡ ዮዲታ፡ ሃይለ፡ ሆፕ፡ ቲ.ክፍለ፡ ዳይን/ዲነ…(ኣብዛ ናይ ኤርምያስ ተሞርኲሰ ርኢቶ ክህብ፡) እቲ ጸገም ከም ዝመስለኒ ቀደም መሳፍንቲ ኣብ ዘመንና ድማ ፖለቲካኛታት ዘጐሃህርዎ “ኣነ ይሓይሽ’ባ ንስኻ” ቁርቁስ እዩ። ካባይ ንላዕሊ ስለትፈልጥዎ ክሓልፎ። ድሕሪ ናጽነት ክሓዊ ዕድል ነይሩ። ክልቲኡ ኣህዛብ ነዚ ኣብ ክልቲኡ ሃገራት ዘሎ ለውጢ ከምጽኡ ክቡር ዋጋ ከፊሎም። ክልቲኦም ንሞት ተፈሪዶም ነይሮም። እቲ ዘሕዝን ከኣ እቲ መንግስቱ ሃይለማርያምን ንጉሰ ነገስት ኣብ ምግጣም ዘመዝገብዎ ዝና መቕተሊኦም ኰይኑ። ሓረስታይ ትግራይን ከበሳ ኤርትራን፡ ከበሳዊ ገጠር ኤርትራን ገጠር ትግራይን…ዝፈልዮ ኣይነበሮን። ብወዲኒታት ከተማታት ዝተጀመረ ምቑንጻብ ባህልታት ቋንቋታት ንመላእ ኤርትራውያን ከም ዘጥቃልል ኰይኑ ይረአ። ኣቦይ ኣብ መንጎ ላህጃታት ትግርኛ ኤርትራን ትግራይን ፍልልይ ምንባሩ ዝፈልጦ ኣይነበሮን፡ ኣይምገደሾን እውን። ኩሉ ትግርኛ እዩ ነይሩ። ፍርቂ ህዝብና (ናይ ኤርትራ) እቲ ኣብ መንጎ ክልቲኡ ኣሕዋት (ክልቲኡ ትግርኛ) ዘሎ ነኣሽቱ ምፍሕፋሕ ኣይርደኦን እዩ። ግን ከኣ እዚ ኣብ ኩሉ ኤትኒካዊ ፍሉይነታት ዝረኣየሉ ኣህዛብ ዝረአ እዩ። ንኣብነት ተዛረብቲ ትግራይ መንሳዕ ንደቂ ምጽዋዕ/ደኸኖ ይጨርቑሎም፡ ተዛረብቲ ትግራይት(ትግረ) ሳሕል ንባርካ፡ ማርያ ንሳሕል፡ እቶም ከቲምና ዝብሉ ተወለድቲ ደቂ ትግረ ፖርት ሱዳን ነቶ “ዘይከተሙ” ትግረ ኤርትራ “ሃሳ” ኢሎም የባጭዉሎም (ይጸርፍዎም)። ኣብዚ ኣብ ኣመሪካ ሰሜናዊ ክፋል ላህጃ ከም ምዕቡል እቲ ደቡባዊ ድማ ከም ናይ red neck ይቑጸር። እቲ ጸገም ናይ ላህጃታት ኣይኮነን። ላህጃታት ወይ ኤትኒካዊ ብዙሕነት ጸጋታት እዮም። እቲ ጸገም ፖለቲካኛታት ነዚ ተጥቂሞም ንኣህዛብ ምስ ዘፋልሱ እዮም። ድኻ ኤርትራዊ ነቲ ድኻ ትግራዋይ ሓዉ “ከዳሚ…ዓጋመ” እንተበሎ ሃብቲ ኣይኮነን እዩ። ድኻ ትግራዋይ ነቲ ድኻ ኤርትራዊ ሓዉ ” ዓስከር..ግዙእ ኢጣልያ” እንተበሎ ዝያዳ ሓርበኛ ኣይኮነን። ክላትና ብሓርበኝነት ከምዘይንሕመ ተፈታቲንና ኢና። ጀነራል ውበቱ ጸጋየ ( ናይ 2ኛ ኣብዮታዊ ሰራዊት (ሁ.ኣ/ሰ.) ኣዛዚ ዝነበረ መጽሓፍ ጽሒፉ ኣሎ። ኣብቲ መጽሓፍ ይኹን ኣብቲ ምስ ኣውስትራሊያ ዝመደበሩ ሬድዮ ኣብ ዝሃቦ ቃለ-መሕትት፡ ” ኤርትራውያን ተዋጋእቲ እዮም። ከማና ሓበሻ እዮም ‘ኮ” ዝመስል ዘረባ ኢሉ። እዚ ሰብ እዚ ዕድምኡ ምሉእ ንኤርትራውያን ዝተዋግአ ወተሃደር እዩ። ተጋደልቲ ህ.ወ.ሓ.ት. እውን መዛንኦም ተጋደልቲ ህ,ግ, ብጃጃውነት ርእዮሞም ኣይፈልጡን። እቲ ዘሓን ካልእ፡ ኣብቲ ቲ.ክፍለ ዝጸሓፍካዮ ዝንጸባረቕ፡ ከምኡ እውን ብገለ ገለ ገዳይም ተጋደልቲ ህ.ወ.ሓ.ት. ዝተጻሕፉ መጻሕፍቲ ከFልፍዎ ዝደልዩ ንተራ ገድሊ ኤርትራ ዘነኣእስን ገድሊ ኤርትራ ብዓቕሙ ንዘበርከቶ፡ ህዝቢ ትግራይን ተጋደልቱን ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ኢትዮጵያ ምሉእ ዝፈልጦ” ኣሉ” ምባል እዩ። ኣልኣሚን መ/ስዒድ ድሕሪ ናጽነት” ሃገራት ኣዕራብ ኩንታል ዝኸውን ሓገዝ እውን ኣይሃባን” ኢሉ። ክሓቶ ዝኽእል ስለዘይነበረ ስሒቝና ጥራይ ተሪፍና። ርሑቕ ከይከድና’ኮ ህዝቢ ሱዳን ንሰውራ ኤርትራን ህዝቢ ኤርትራን ዝገቨርዎ ኣበርክቶ “ሹክረን” ኣይበልናን። ከጠቃልል፡ ምሕያል ዜጋታት (citizen empowerment) የድሊ ኣሎ። ኣብዚ ዓምድታት ሓሳብና ክነካፍል ዕድል ዝረኸብና ብሓላፍነት ክንጥቀመሉ ይግባእ። ሓያል ዜጋ እንተ ዝህሉ እቲ ኣስታት 100,000 ሂወት ዝቐዘፈ ኲናት ምተቖጽየ ነይሩ። ፖለቲካኛታት ኤትኒካዊ ፍልልያት መዝሚዞም ኣህዛብ ኣይመቃተሉን ነይሮም። ኣይመራሓቑን ነይሮም። ኣብ ገድሊ ኤርትራ ዝተራእየ ጸሊም ታሪኽ ናይ ኲናት ሓድሕድ ኣይምተካየደን ነይሩ (ኣብ መንጎ ተጋደልቲ ህ.ግን ተ.ሓ.ኤን) እንታይ ፍልልይ ዓላማን ስነሓሳብን ነይሩ? እዚ ድማ ናብቲ መንቀሊ ናይዚ ርኢቶ ዝኾነ ኣቶ ኤርምያስ ይወስደኒ። ጽቡቕ ኣለኻ። ኣነ ከምኡ ዓይነት ቋንቋ ቅጭ እዩ ዘምጸኣለይ። ከዳምነት ክብሉ ከለዉ ከም ተመሳሳሊ ቃል ናይ ኣህጉራዊ ዝምድናታት ጥራይ ውሰዶ። ኣብታ ዘምጸኣእካያ ኣብነት ድማ ዝክድም ደቁ የዕቢ።

          • Ermias

            Dear Mahmud Sahel,

            I am very humbled by your detailed response to my comment as it also relates to the other great thinkers. When I read something like you wrote, it just simply makes my day and I am filled with joy and happiness because it makes me feel like there is hope.

            I will step aside for now and I hope to see a response or addition from Haile, T.Kifle, Yodita, and perhaps SGJ and SAAY as well.

            What a great asset you are to this forum brother Mahmud. Please hang around more. Thank you!!!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam Ermias: Thank you for the complement.

      • Hope

        With all due respect Kifle,
        While giving Yodita a big time credit and respect for her white and black TRUTHFUL statement about the EPLF contribution, I advise you to swallow the BITTER TRUTH.
        She never questioned the TPLF’s courage.
        Let me rephrase what she said:” If the Eritrean Struggle never existed, most likely the TPLF could have never existed let alone to be where it is now.
        For those of us who witnessed the facts on the ground, NO BODY,I repeat, NO BODY, will ever deny the FACTS Yodita has tried to express.
        Either swallow the bitter truth or shut up—as we Eritreans do not expect admiration or appreciation from any body ,let alone the TPLF or Tigreyans.
        Under normal conditions, one would expect to hear:” Nizigheberelka wey nigherelu wey dimma ghiberelu”.
        But here we have the biter of his/her own Mom’s breasts, which fed him/her until he/she has grown up to the age of 18,not only to the age of THREE.

        • Yodita

          Hope,

          Please let me be the one who stands for what I say and paraphrasing is not required. I say it plainly enough. My admiration and respect for TPLF is nothing less than that of EPLF! The ordinary youth in both fronts paid the highest price to secure a liberated and empancipated society for their respective countries. T.Kifle and I are not at logger heads about it. Your phrase “… swallow the bitter truth or shut up… ” is unwarranted and disrespectful to both of us. I cannot figure out why we cannot sort things out holding hands!!

          • haile

            Wow…impressive and thank you Yodita. When you say “… let me be the one who stands for what I say and paraphrasing is not required.” it is the second warning in a row to “Hope” who has been told by Mahmud Salh “…I am not a kid, where are your evidences.” I hope Mr/Ms Hope takes this to heart and learn a little humility and not step into others toe in that way. Above over that it gives me a great delight to see that kind of firm stand in the belief of one’s own self. PFDJ has created a nation of self doubters, how you guys deflected the creepy approach that was fronted on you is a standard in many societies. Sadly, our society needs to stand up tall and assert itself and not be cowered by the a small group of men and women who have no currency out of Eritrea and rejected by the world over. Power to the people and way to go 🙂

          • hope

            “Warning”,you said? Huh,you should have been the FIRST ONE to be warned had you not been a specially privileged AT customer.
            I can go word by word to “corroborate with evidence” ,to use your own words.

          • Hope

            Let walk,NOT just talk—–How can you expect things to be sorted out when one deliberately distorts FACTS—

    • dine

      the entire nation’s sacrifice ultimately proven wrong and based on lies. the only way out of the mess is by the fact and the truth, not by fantasy, how come backward EPLF(proved the last 23 years ) can influence modernity to other? fantasy and reality are two different things.

    • Rodab

      Selam Yodita,
      It’s good to see you taking on the YGs. It is tough to debate them mainly because it involves reading yg’s many-page entries. If one doesn’t have the patience to read that all (I have myself in mind) he/she would be at a disadvantage to debating them. If you don’t read it what’s the point of debating anyway, right? I would take that to be the deterring reason to seeing only few ppl engaging on it (Sal & Aman on one hand, Hayat & Serray on the other. Good for them all). Your entry, if persists, will tilt the balance in favor of the mainstream view. Keep it up!

      • Yodita

        Ahlel Rodab,

        I understand what you mean when you point out about reading (myriads) of YG’s entries if you are to debate
        meaningfully. I hereby admit I am no calibre of Sal, Hayat or Serray (these are but gods! – Aman, frankly I do not know well yet) and am therefore risking being squished in my own’mortality’. I nevertheless wish to say the following:

        Here is a direct quote of YG in answer to a comment of his article “Disowning Eritrea: Owning the Regal Disease”:

        “Let me make it crystal clear that I have no problem at all with Muslim Eritrea, as I don’t have any problem with Christian Eritrea. I do believe that these two peoples could have lived in peace together had it not been for their respective elites. My problem is then with the elite, both of Muslim and Christian types.”

        Starting from Lenin (the father of all Marxist revolutions?) all struggles were/are LED by elites!!! The masses, the direct beneficiaries, do pay the highest prices to get liberated and emancipated but, under
        the leadership of their elites. That Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Kim Il Sung, Pol Pot, Mugabe, Isaias Afewerki, Nicolae Ceausescu, Enver Hoxha, the list is too long, hijacked the struggle to serve their own ends and in some cases replaced the heroic masses’ dreams by nightmares is part and parcel of the ‘game’. It is not unique to Eritrea, history glaringly records it.

        The elites show the way but handfuls of them, having too deep throats for power, derail and even destroy a collective sacred, life-oriented struggle plunging people to desperation and destituteness. When the mighty YG, upset with some elites slices up the whole of Ghedli’s noble and sacred (and very costly) experience like there is no tomorrow, it is astounding, to say the very least.

        Even putting the whole elite in one basket, is dead wrong as many elites do surpass the dream and aspiration of the very masses themselves and they face prisons and arbitrary liquidations in order to save
        the day and fulfill their mission.

        Rodab, I ask where would the Bolsheviks be without Lenin (an elite)? Where would the Chinese be
        without Maoism (probably as poor and destitute as they were during the centuries they were entrenched in Confucius’ indoctrination that it was their lot, their fate to go through life huddling together in a corner during bitter cold winters and passing hot water to sip in the absence of food (read William Hinton’s Fanshen). Where would China be without Deng Xiaoping (an elite)? Today, we are told, there is milk, eggs, meat and fish on the table for most rural peoples of China because of the mission and determined struggle China’s elites took upon themselves, notwithstanding Mao Tse Tungs’ unholy grip on power until his death.

        YG says “…I do believe that the whole Ghedli enterprise is the making of the elite…”
        I say, damn right it is! We have had the IA and PFDJ incidence and the duration is very trying, but is not Ethiopia better off because of what its elites inspired? Once, the late PM Meles was asked about the lack of genuine democratic practices in present Ethiopia. I am NOT quoting him ad verbatim but he replied to the effect that although the quality of the universities they are opening all over the country leaves much to be desired, the graduates these numerous higher learning institutions will hatch will see to it that democracy reigns in every corner of their country. There is no better way to ensure going forward but through education and eradication of poverty. This means to me that you create sizable representative elites to fight for a better world.

        YG sounds very enraged by some elites and I give him credit for that as they need to be trashed out before they are in positions to do havoc. What I fail to understand is his wrath on what the people were INSPIRED to produce (Ghedli) which you will agree with me, Rodab Hawey, was no mean achievement. Less IA (just one man) we could have been the talk of the globe in hard work and determination to build and construct!! Haftcka

        • tes

          Dear Yodita,

          I thank you for your broadening approach. YG’s approach in creating a crack-down between same but diversified societies and regions of Eritrea is nothing but a well planned and defined target walk. How can reach his destiny unless he scrumble them?

          Look his Romantizing ghedli article, the kebesa people, the elites, the Asmara city, down-fall of Eritrea, all these are extensive written documents but with one message, “Not accepting Eritrea as a free country”

          the others, it is just how we see them. Currently, I am within Eritrea, and let me finish my homework first before dealing with TPLF or Ethiopia.

          Thanks

        • saay7

          Selamat Yodita:

          Phew! Trust me, the Sals, Hayats and Serrays got nothing on you. That was an inspired writing and (by sheer coincidence) something I agree with almost verbatim.

          With YG, I am torn between two pieces of advice: ignore it, rebut it. I finally read his latest in its entirety and, for the first time, I get the sense that his writing is totally motivated by genuine fear: hzbey yiTefu alewu. His hzbey just happens to be the Kebessa and more specifically the Tigrinya.

          I heard the exact same arguments from a different social group (Massawans, Beni Amers) in the 1980s and 1990s…. So to rebut or to ignore, that’s the question.

          Meanwhile, I can’t tell you how impressed I am with your writing and clarity of thought!

          saay

          • Ermias

            She is a smart cookie. My only beef is people like her don’t show up enough around here and instead of reading, I get to write out of my behind all day long.

        • Saleh Johar

          Yodit, considering the tomes written by Yosief and its rebuttals, you captured his entire premise and in a brief, to the point, argument you practically trashed his campaign. Excellent indeed.

          NB: Most Tigrinya speakers say Ahlel, when the correct word is Ahlen, with an “N”. Just a note.

        • Pappillon

          ዝኸበርኪ ዮዲታ ሓፍተይ

          I just finished reading your dispassionate and brave take on YG the high-priest. Your hallmark here in our warm adobe Awate.com is not only of course your flawless and a melody like proficiency of the English language but your sense of humility where an on-looker can easily sense the Eritrean character in you. No kidding!

          Yosief Gebrehiwet is a preacher, perhaps a brilliant lawyer as well where he is loaded with a remarkable sophistry marinated in a sea of allegories and metaphors to the extent where the reader gets hypnotized practically hard to come back to life. But if anything, two noteworthy aspects are terribly amiss in the dazzling edifice where the Philosopher-King resides in: integrity and practical-(re)solution. Why didn’t YG take on his case with Ghedli during the time when Eritrea was embarking on the right direction (read: 1993-98) but dared to unleash his merciless onslaught as you have aptly put it on the very noble cause that had brought independence of Eritrea? To be more precise, why is he beating on a wounded nation roaring in unbearable agony? Moreover, his narrative lacks a clear cut solutions to the predicament Eritrea finds herself in where he remotely seems to allude an external force is the only get-go but again, that is not clear either where one is hard-pressed to find any connection between his take on Ghedli and intervention of an external force as a harbinger of a solution. When I read his narratives, often times I get the impression as if he is lying on a Freudian coach gushing out his upbringing in a “Free Association” as the therapist tries to find a block in his personal psychological milestones where Ghedli seems to have been the monster all along.

          ሓፍትኺ

          • abinet

            Dear papillon
            how was Eritrea embarking in the right direction in 1993_1998 ? Do you mind explaining it more.And what happened after that to “the right direction?”
            And why?lf only you knew what your government was doing in Ethiopia in those years.
            Thanks.

          • Pappillon

            Dear Abinet,

            I sure don’t want to bore you with the Constitution was being ratified, freedom of press was mushrooming inter alia as indices for moving in to the right direction but most of all, there was so much hope and a sense of optimism with in the stated years where hope and optimism are not only elusive in today’s Eritrea but scarce as well. I am not interested in speculating on what Isaias was cooking in Ethiopia back then for it is irrelevant to the issue at hand. To be more precise, as much as the issue is YG’s unwarranted onslaught on Ghedli, he would have gained more credibility had he come forward with his reservations (for lack of a better word) about Ghedli when Eritrea was standing tall with her vital signs intact. It is rather dishonest to unleash a barrage of historical shoddy threads to make a point after the fact and when Eritrea is in a terrible shape.

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Pappillon,

            I presume you would remember YG when he was in the “cheer club” up until the end of the Ethio-Eri war. For better or worse, he made his U-turn “so early” and he is where he is today. Dehai stands a testimony for all the bravado and badmouthing many Eritrean intellectuals were delved into revealing their timeserving characters out.

            It’s true we cannot reverse the gear of history and the only sane alternative, as I see it, is to accept the cause(sought of independence) and the outcome(the independence proper).

            Having said this however, I tend to extend you unsolicited encouragement to asses your position as regard to YG’s take of Ghedli as he gets into the nitty gritty of it and as Eritrea precipitated down into extreme state of belligerency and ever inexplicable war footing completely in phase with the true nature and evolution of Ghedli. It would be a grave mistake to mix the aspiration of Eritreans for independence with that of the nature of the revolution and its handlers.

            Why is it deemed important? Because it is a key factor in remaking the Eritrean nation which would be at peace with itself and its environment. Eritrean nationalism has imbibed beyond measure the Israel/Arab military parallel in a bid to turn the country into African Singapore factoring in the huge market opportunity next door and exploiting the sea outlet as a continuous blackmailing chip. The 7 years respite you mentioned were basically years of wrong calculations for all the problems transpired and the wrong moves made there after; a natural consequence of the wrong assessment of “self” and the country Ghedli has inherited. Those were the years the entire militarization of the Eritrean youth was devised, implemented well up to the sixth round, all sorts of contraband,running illicit trade and black-market rackets proliferated and choked the Ethiopian business space and finally Eritrea emerged the 3rd coffee exporter in Africa.

            My dear papi, that has been a fit of gross injustice to Ethiopia and utterly unsustainable venture for Eritrea. ዓዲ’ቦኻ እንትዝመትስ ኢድካ ሕወስ was the common refrain among Eritrean businessmen and PFDJ apparatchiks of the time. This kind of irrational attribute of በለፅ is made of Sahel and hit its niche in Asmara. YG, not directly though, would help in deflating the tire of this seemingly perpetual machine touch the ground and be able to observe what is going around with a sober mind.

            with best wishes

          • abinet

            Dear papillon
            when Eritrea was “standing tall” no eritrean to my knowledge uttered a word about the shortcomlngs of ghedli including YG as you said it .it was all about the end not the means.however, now that the end is not as good as in those days he is reviewing the means(ghedli).Unfortunately,he found out that it was full of”shit” for the lack of a better word.
            Papillion, my argument in short is , when eritrea was “standing tall” the vital signs were in Ethiopia. I don’t want to go into details since there is nothing you don’t know.now tell me honestly if you were opposing your government in those days and why?
            Thanks.

          • ghezaehagos

            I would
            add one peculiar fact on the lack of solutions from our good friend, YG.
            Reading his voluminous articles on 1950s and the Ghedli, one can see he doesn’t
            mince words . He said it loud and clear: “Ghedli was a mistake; we should
            never have fought the war against Ethiopia. We should have found political
            solution inside Ethiopian politics.”

            So, you normally deduct the SOLUTION IS: to rectify the mistakes of the past
            and opt for union with Ethiopia.

            The peculiar, sometimes maddening and exasperating fact is that: It is not,
            according to YG. Nope to union with Ethiopia. I wish YG is a neo-unionist.

            He repeatedly says he doesn’t want or intend union with Ethiopia. He says
            “if I propose that, I am not just a fool, I MUST BE insane.” Xilul
            kikwen aleni…!

            Then what does he have to go this length (really) to throw his weight and
            resources, his discourse to attack federation and Ghedli, only to oppose union
            with Ethiopia. Logically, it doesn’t dovetail.

            I think he must make his mind up on what he thinks is the solution for our
            current predicament, that is if he is interested in solutions, if not answers.
            Because, current Eritrea is mostly made up of people who have got no living
            memory of Ghedli, and he should stop defining the present and the future by
            what something we have got no way of swaying or changing or negotiating with:
            thefuture by what something we have got no way of swaying or changing or
            negotiating with: the Ghedli. It is THE past.

            It must not be overlooked; Ghedli is part of us. It won’t go away. It will play
            central role in our nation’s history. Those of us who take grievance with it,
            are humbly advised to find ways to make peace with it; to find some purpose to
            it; to reconcile with it. Only if we can reconcile with our past, can we confront
            today and the coming todays. True for individuals, true for nations of
            individuals. If all fails, let us remember the true essence of Ghedli, the
            right to fight for once dignity, the right to stand up for what you believe;
            the right of self-determination doesn’t belong to ELF or EPLF; they were mere
            defective vehicles via which we acted. It belonged with the Eritrean people.
            We, the people, were and owners of the true essence of Ghedli; the right to be.

            All the best,

            Ghezae Hagos

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Ghezae,

            Your matured advice to those who have grievances on ghedli : “to find ways to make peace with it……..to find some purpose,and reconcile with it” should be at the center of our political discourse if and only if we want to deal with the present and the future. Well put brother. And further your take on ELF and EPLF as “defective vehicles” to the aspiration of the Eritrean people can’t be more true when we evaluate the negative aspects of the fronts.

            Hawka,
            Amasnuel Hidrat

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Dear Yodita: That was amazing; perhaps his soul keeps living in a different Era; or he is on a mission to capitalize on anxious Eritreans that at the advent of his imaginary” Bay of pigs” achieves its mission, or the Southern wind reaches Asmara and a friendly government is installed there, then he will have readied cares to re-invent history.

        • Rodab

          Hi Yodita,
          Well-crafted rebuttal. I am sure our friend YG is reading and hopefully he will find a way to join in and address your highly convincing points. If not, may be on his upcoming installement.
          As for your eloquence, not sure about others, but no surprise for me for I know that to be the case since way back during Awate 6.0.
          When the topic was hotly debated in a number of occasions, you were silently observing but now for a change you decided to jon the party, so to speak. Good start and hopefully with continuety. Peace!

        • ALI-S

          Yodita,

          A beautiful post! Not a single word of what you wrote was redundant and fits right where it belongs. Thank you. I agree completely with what all the others wrote.

          I do not want to spoil the spirit that you have inspired but please allow me to add a few words on the way I see YG’s articles and arguments and I have `read most if not all. I love the way he writes and I am proud for his courage in raising tough questions that will sooner or later have to be answered at least deep in our conscience.
          Of course he is either dumb or dishonest. But to his credit, I think he is no more dumb or dishonest than nearly all the regime change advocates. In fact the core of his arguments rest on an identical premise only that his side is more believable because he writes in the past and the rest of the regime changers write in the present and in what we can see.
          Imagine this scenario:
          Find someone who is excessively phobic to cats and lock him in a small room with a vicious black cat. Make sure you have a video camera inside the room to show you the destruction that happens while he is locked in the hysteric and bloody battle with the cat that would never die.
          Now let us introduce another factor: the cat is invisible to the camera. He can see the cat but you cannot see it on your PC. Show the video to someone who has no idea that there is a cat in the room and ask him what he would make out of the situation and the destruction caused in the battle against nothing.
          That exactly is the picture you will get of the ghedli where the vicious cat that was the primary cause of the hysteria is rendered invisible.
          If you agree that simulates YG’s video of ghedli, wouldn’t you agree that is it the same video that our regime change advocates are reproducing about today’s ghedli?

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Sis Yodita,

      I think I read in one of your comment that you were in Ghedli. Correct me if I am wrong. But if I am right, then you should have a good picture on the innate nature of “struggle within the struggle” in our revolution. As you have mentioned in your comment, you are correct all revolutions are lead by elites. There are always conflict between elites on their world view of politics (call it ideological view). That is why we always see splits in any revolutionary process (again the splits are led by elites). The Eritrean revolution had passed through those conflicting process albeit with huge sacrifices. Since elites represent both in the spectrum of revolutionary and counter revolutionary set of political conflicts, I would have avoided the term “elites” if I were you, because the word elite always have a negative connotations. The good thing you did a good job in segregating the political behavior of both sides of the spectrum of elites.

      • Yodita

        Dear Amanuel Hidrat,
        Please let me correct you: you are wrong. With regards.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Yodita,
          Could you be specific where I am wrong? Is it on the two sides of elites, or on my assumption of relating you to Ghedli generation?

  • Mahmud Saleh

    I agree and hope Haile will revisit his conclusion. Actually, what has made the opposition almost irrelevant is this Quandary; where free-standing and and free-minded Eritreans are Left pondering if the opposition, as it stands today, is in fact an opposition capable of convincing Eritreans that it could deliver the democracy it claims to be fighting for and

    • mahmud_saleh

      I have heard and read many Eritreans who say,”Let’s get rid of PFDJ, then, and only then, we will be able to solve our sociopolitical issues; they argue that PFDJ is worse than the Ethiopians, that Ethiopia would solve its border issues once PFDJ is gone….etc.” I don’t expect Ethiopians would necessarily act differently when it comes to their national interest; they will act like any other nation. They will at any opportunity try to maximize their return from any negotiation, be it with Egypt , the Sudan…Eritrea..etc, which is perfectly normal, and when the government sitting in Asmara is something of their make, that’s sweet for them. So, the notion that they will particularly be nice to us is just too naive, (I am not replying to Haile, just a general opinion), therefore, one would expect the opposition: a/ to be acting better than the regime it is hoping to replace by being strong on national interest (at least telling Ethiopia that it needs to abide by its obligation in settling the border issue, equivocally), b/ by showing a sense of dynamism and democratic trend within itself, therefore, outperforming PFDJ in democratic culture (how could they accuse Issays of being dictator when they are full of dictators; most of the organizations are known by their founders; and they seem to be not welcoming fresh ideas and new blood, they are as transparents as PFDJ could get..marred with ethnic, religious and sectarian squabbles ). Therefore, no wonder many Eritreans, even those who oppose PFDJ, like me, are expressing their pressure on the opposition as much as they exert that pressure on PFDJ. Unless we demand more from the opposition, which will compel it to do better, we will end up either with having an irrelevant nominal opposition or worse with a trojan horse. Of course, not all opposition organizations are equally accused, here. For the majority of Eritreans, who rules the country is not the source of our uneasiness, rather, whoever replaces PFDJ should be better than the currents status of PFDJ; better in governance, better in national defence.

  • Kokhob Selam

    PFDJ represents none. so the group will not favor any, in fact this type of groups just eat their own body at last because their principle represents none. when the day comes they just disappear forever.

  • Pappillon

    Awatewian,

    Here is an interesting piece which lays out the multiple scenarios to the almost certainly inevitable downfall of Isaias the tyrant. The piece particularly gives us a more of a talking point to the ongoing heated debate in our otherwise warm adobe Awate.com. The article is interestingly enough from Monday May 5, 2014 where in my part of the world it is not even Monday yet.

    http://thinkafricapress.com/eritrea/what-shape-will-eventual-demise-aferwerki-regime-take

    • Hope

      SAAY also posted a brief summary about the ICG views(latest one),which is/are similar with the one/s you quoted or referring to.
      SAAY promised that he will debate on those and I think the debate will have more meaning and weight if we do so but in a Rational and reasonable way though.

  • haile

    hey old punch bag…who let you off the leash? OK show is done back to your cage (dehai)…

  • Saleh Johar

    Dine, they are his cousins trice removed. He has the right!

    • dine

      Saleh Johar
      i get it now!

  • Saleh Johar

    No, me eat human flesh? I eat only cooked lamb. I don’t eat beef, cooked or raw.:-)

    • dine

      ya ustaz Saleh,
      i know u don’t! it is the sound.