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Eritrea Watches The Houthi Advance In Yemen

On Monday September 22, 2014, the Yemeni capital city, Sana’a, fell to the Houthi rebels with relatively little media coverage. Since then, the Houthi rebellion that started in the Sa’ada region of North Yemen, under the leadership of Abdulmalik AlHouthi, has controlled more territories; in the last two days alone they took over three regions, including Hudeidah. They now control about 85% of the Yemeni coastline on the Red Sea and about half the North Yemeni territories.

Yemen faces Eritrea across the Red Sea and on the north of Bab ElMendeb, the two countries are separated by a body of water about 20 miles wide. The Bab Al Mendeb straight connects the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean and many regional and international powers manipulate their foreign policies to gain control of it.

In the spring of this year, an Eritrean official accompanying Isaias Afwerki to Qatar complained about Prince Turki Al Faisel, Saudi Arabia’s former intelligence chief who now heads the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies, a think-tank in Riyadh. Saudi Arabia has reportedly accused the Isaias Afwerki regime of Eritrea for being, “a conduit to the Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen.” At the time, Saudi Arabian and Yemen joint forces have been battling the Houthis in North Yemen.

The Houthis, who are named after their clan leader Abdulmalik AlHouthi, belong to the Zaidi sect of Yemen. The Zaidis, though considered Shi’a Muslims, are the closest to the Sunni Islam than any other Shi’a sect. However, beginning in 1980 when AyatoAllah Khomeini took power in Iran and fought a bloody war against Saddam Hussein’s Iraq for ten years, there has been increasing polarization between the Shi’a and Sunni Muslims. The conflict has now engulfed many countries in the Middle East, particularly Lebanon, Syria, Bahrain and to some extent Eastern Saudi Arabia.

Currently the proxy war is being fought in Iraq and Syria and it is expected to escalate and involve Lebanon and other places unless the ISIS onslaught on the region is brought under control. Different regional forces have been aligning themselves with one or another country, mainly Iran supporting the Shi’a, and Saudi Arabia supporting the Sunnis.

The recent Houthi rebellion is believed to be an extension of the bigger war in the region that has been suffering from  bad governance and poverty for many years.

In the aftermath of the Arab Spring, the Yemenis took to the streets and shook the power of president Ali Abdella Saleh forcing him to abdicate in a mediation brokered by the Arab Gulf States. However, like his predecessor, president Abd Rabbuh Mansur still faced worsening economic and political pressure made worse by an increase of attacks by the Arabian Peninsula franchise of AlQaeda. Yemen has not been stable for almost a decade now.

A few weeks ago, the Houthis who had slowed their rebellion erupted violently and marched towards San’a which they captured with relatively little bloodshed and surprised observers who expected worse. But for the most part, the fast advance of the Houthi’s was helped by the sudden collapse of the Yemeni forces who simply surrendered with no or little fight.

With the capture of San’a, the Houthis secured enough arms and resources to march in all directions; as of today, they control almost all the eastern half of North Yemen.

Meanwhile, development in North Yemen has prompted South Yemen to seek secession from a unity it reluctantly entered to in 1990 following a series of bloody wars between the two parts of Yemen.

On October 14, 2014, in a rally commemorating the 1963 revolution of South Yemen, politicians made clear calls for secession from the Yemeni union which a politician called, “The barbaric occupation of North Yemen.”

Regional governments are nervously observing the situation because given the turn of events in Iraq and Syria, and now in Yemen, they are facing difficulty in predicting where the events will lead further.

In 1995, Eritrea fought Yemen over the control of Hanish Archipelago; the case was resolved at the World Court. Eritrea lost the Hanish Islands which were at the center of the conflict.

Since then, the relations between the two country was lukewarm but occasionally tense due to Eritrea’s continual arrest of fishermen and their boats for allegedly fishing in Eritrean waters.

In the spring of this year, Eritrea promoted Mohammed Sheik Abduljalil, its previous consul in Qatar, to become its ambassador to Yemen.

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  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Abay,

    We are grateful for the hospitality of Ethiopian people to our (people) refugees. Let me share with you what the great prime minister Meles Zenawi had said to us in his office in 2011. When we asked him to help us to allow young Eritreans to be enrolled in the colleges and universities in Ethiopia, this is what the PM had said to us: We are not going to do it because you asked us about it, but we will do it from “our principle” that educated people can resolve easily their differences (paraphrasing it).

    So what I can tell you is just communicate and exchange your ideas with those who foresee the big picture of humanity of the region. At the end of the day the sane people will prevail and humanity will take root in this troubled region of ours. We have great debt to our young generations.

    regards
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Fetima Dechasa

    Dearest Abay,

    Thank you for being so honest and thorough in your explanation above. This is precisely what I have been trying to say for the longest time. I always asked what if the shoes was on the other foot? Would they feel the need to normalize with Ethiopia? I honestly don’t think so.

    Respectfully,

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    Here is a bizarre response to SEMG by the PFDJ reply to the UN…

    • Semere Andom

      Dear Haile TG:
      1.The GOE has the RESPONSIBILITY to oppose and defend the sanction that hurt it people and its own HEART. If you have COURAGE and the HIGH IQ instead of intimidating genuine deki Eri like Nitricc, the TRUE compatriot who adore his nations WHY not talk about the harsh/hardships facing Eritreans in the ETHIOPIAN camps so the sanctions to be lifted so the ppl can eat and whey they eat they have energy to fight PFDJ. But like it or not PFDJ Is the government and this response is VERY appropriate
      2. Please use your IQ to help your COMPATRIOTS
      3. YOU NEED to look in the mirror and go to church/mosque/synagogue /Kingdom Hall/ and pray about the situation of Eritrean instead of using scissors to cat and past AND bringing appr. response of a legitimate government that makes mistakes. HELLO PFDJ made up ppl like me and you
      peace/ezia wo dehanka

      • haileTG

        Why is hope using Semere A by-line?

      • Saleh Johar

        HaileTG
        Semere saw a style. Brilliant.

        He saw. He liked. He adopted. Just like Ceasar 🙂

        • haileTG

          Ha ha… and what should become of hope, the once hopeful IQ school dropout

          • Semere Andom

            Hi HTG:
            I thought you were joking. It is me bro gegikani?;-)

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Sem,

            gdef eba sem arkey…entay dehan koyne elkani lom’qne. Nfasu xbuq yelon

          • Mahmud Saleh

            HTG and Sem A
            This must be ” Awatista’s Funiest Moment Of All Time.”

          • haileTG

            ማሕሙዳይ…ግደፍ ኣይትስሓቕ። ዓቢ ሓወይ ኢኻ ግን ከይረግመካ፡) ሁለት የኤርትራ ስርዓት ተቃዋሚዎች፡ በመረጃ ስህተት ሲታኮሱ ዋሉ። Pretend you saw nothing:-)

          • Kokhob Selam

            KIR….KIR..KIR. Hilat zdenagerelu zemen Lol. moyte…..

          • Mahmud Saleh

            KS
            እከታተሎ ቐንየ። ወላ ንማለቱ ኳ ሰለም ከየበለ። ቅሩብ ከ መግቢ ወስ ኣቢሉ ኮን ‘ዶ ይኸውን? check your blood sugar too ሃይላት

          • Nitricc

            Haile, how about sharing the good stuff, you know, I see you are busy weed-ing hahahahah. I can see the smokes you puffing out lol. that is funny! “ the once hopeful IQ school dropout” simply classic!!!

      • Hope

        Cousin Sem:
        My follow up question is:
        Please tell us a bit about your resume about your contribution for Eritrea other than “kidnapping” our Tigrayit speaking BEAUTY and de-romanticizing Ghedli and “Eloquent Speech Writing”
        I will be waiting for an answer for the “Dummies”!

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Hope
          There you go; you know he’s going to dodge that. Does he have a return policy? Waletna egl nbles.

    • Hope

      Yep Mr.High IQ !
      Rather,if you have the COURAGE the IQ and the GUT,challenge the response one by one.
      Did I hear you also saying that since the TPLF is ready to invade Eritrea,people are escaping in thousands and paying $7500 to cross to Kessela to avoid recruitment to defend Eritrea?
      And you seem to endorse that and U R. using it as a cheap propaganda?
      Hypocrisy or open Treason?

      • haileTG

        Dear hope,
        There is one requirement on your report card for you to resume attending your Primary Schooling in the school of IQ: demonstrate honesty. Simple.
        Regards

  • haileTG

    Latest update:

    – Yesterday’s attempt to get people to report to go for military training has been rejected by people in Asmara

    – The atmosphere is tense and many people with serious medical situation are being refused exit visas

    – Feelings of defiance are high among the people and PFDJ has now been openly humiliated

    – Some of the rampant fictitious PFDJ 03 rumors being circulated include:

    1/ demhit attacked inside Ethiopia, so the latter is preparing offensive

    2/ Following Gebru Asrat’s publication of his book, Ethiopia is readying itself to invade Assab

    3/ Following PMHD’s local radio interview in US about “new strategy”, they are now ready to implement it and are already conducting surveillance missions…

    All the above is obvious that the regime is trying to foment a false sense of threat to drive people out of the country.

    Regards

    • Nitricc

      Haile you said PMHD new strategy ready to implement which we all know the stupid Welamo telling us he is attacking Eritrea then on the same token you are saying the regime is trying to foment a false sense of threat
      Which one is it?
      I mean if The master of begging Ethiopia is declaring to attack Eritrea then how is it false sense of threat?

      • haileTG

        hey Nitricc

        According to PMHD

        “If the Eritrea government tries once more to send its ‘foot soldier’ [Ginbot 7], we will remove the Eritrea government.”

        That was a conditional statement. The condition has to be met for the measure to be taken. That is a far cry from “Ethiopia is declaring to attack Eritrea”. There are mining companies in Eritrea, they are not sounding alarm bells, there are international media in Ethiopia and they are not sounding alarm bells either. No one is witnessing troops amassing and men and equipments deploying in the border. There are no evacuations ordered by external observers and even PFDJ are not packing their Land Cruisers as they usually do for the cowards that they are.

        So, the question is why is the IA regime causing the flight of the refugees at alarming rate? Why is it only passing this through its 03? Why doesn’t it officially announce such concerns as it regularly did (issuing releases that attacks are pending) during the border wars?

        Regards

        • Abinet

          Haile TG
          How do you respond to Nitric while he called my PM “the stupid Wolamo” . It sounds like you agreed with him . Haile, this is what I call people to people respect and relationship. Don’t you think it is easier to correct him than arguing with Fatima as to how to mend the broken r/p? You should have been outraged as I am now by his deragotary comment . Unbelievable!

          • haileTG

            Hi Abi,

            …and you think I that sort of role around here? I know the awate.com forumers are self regulating, but haven’t done away with moderators altogether

          • Dear Abinet,

            What Nitricc calls the PM of Ethiopia is not important. PMHMD is known by the whole world. He sits at the same table with the President of the USA, the leaders of the EU, while his president IA confers at best with some Gulf State leaders, Al
            Shabab, G7 etc. Therefore, leave him to sing the tunes we are all familiar with, like beggar Ethiopians, and now a wolamo PM. Abinet, I wish I were HMD, a wolamo and a PM, but unfortunately, I cannot be him.

            It is frustration, my friend; and there is nothing you can do about it. Some people can never be cured.

          • Nitricc

            Hahahahahah it is funny. For Abinet, Horizon and the rest of Ethiopians, it is okay to insult my president all kind of insults, including “ mad-dog” and yet, I stated the truth about their Tengara PM, they all up in arms. I don’t care what ever it is, if you have no problem insulting my president and my country; please don’t get offended if I let you test your own medicine. I didn’t even insult your dumb PM, I just stated the facts. He is dumb and he is from Welayat. Is there anyone who disputes my take? I don’t think so!
            Horizon, don’t get so high because your crossed eye PM sit with Obama. He was there to take orders and Obama will go down one of the worst US president in the history of the USA. So, please come down from your high horses. Tell me one word your PM uttered that not directly from PMMZ? Tell me? I was being nice to limit just the stupid word.
            Besides, what do you want Haile to do? Abinet I know you are a foot soldier but take it easy solder.

    • T. Kifle

      Dear haile TG,

      It’s an irony that Gebru’s book has been taken as PR work of the Ethiopian government of the day while the fact is that the book would have never existed in the first place if it were not for the government’s(TPLF in Nitricc’s “Ethiopianreview” parlance) stance on the issue. It’s like “The goat’s here while the stick’s being hurled there”

  • Nitricc

    The toothless Tigryans in here, they keep talking smack yet, they never opposed to their own warmongers. I thought you want peace, so why are you not opposing this evil man called Gebru Asrat. here is the take of one honest Ethiopian.
    “…….Like all books written by Woyane officials present or past this book is also fiction trying to pass as a serious work. I am sure the Honorable former Woyane politburo member, governor of Tigrai Kilil, has a lot of useful inside information to tell us, if he so wishes, yet he choose to weave a web of imaginary tales, self- serving stories, and deliberately vague memories to lead us to another dead end street. This book was not written not to enlighten us with policies formulated and decisions made while the individual was in position of great power, but it was written with the sole aim of continuing the single ethnic rule at the expense of the rest of us that are left to be observers in our own country.

    I have no doubt Ato Gebru is aware of his attempt to revise history that happened yesterday in our presence is not a winning idea nor would it convince anyone of us of the validity of his prejudiced memory. The simple question would be why do it when it is a child’s play to refute his faulty analysis. The answer is simple. It is that sickness called delusion, that afflicts those that are used to operate in a totally different dimension. Folks like that are usually surrounded by people that totally agree with them and who reinforce the false memories and the baseless lies that begin to take a life of its own when told over and over again.
    According to our TPLF central committee member and governor of the number one Kilil, there are two issues that are facing our country at the moment. The lack of a sea port and the unsettled issue of Eritrea. It is not the lack of Democracy, the absence of the rule of law, the marginalization of the 94% Ethiopians that are forced to be silent observers in the governance of their nation, the constant abuse of all political organization not affiliated or subservient to TPLF, the hundreds of reporters and newspaper editors that are languishing in Woyane jail. No sir, it is the dreaded Shabia and the Port of Assab that should consume our passion and once we deal with these two issues the sun will rise once again and peace will prevail.
    The crazy part about this obsession is that the Honorable Ato Gebru was there sitting around the table while both issues were decided and the argument supposedly settled. The 94% were not asked their opinion. There is no need to dump it on Ato Meles since at that point in time he was just one politburo member among many without extra power or influence. Seyoum Mesfin, Seye Abreha, Sebhat Nega, Arkebe Okubay, Abay Teshaye, Abadi Zemo, Azeb Mesfin, Tsegay Berhe among others were part of the decision making process. This idea of back pedaling is both cheap and a reflection on the ethics of the individual.
    Since its inception, the TPLF always had this obsession regarding maps and boundaries both International and National. They were very busy drawing lines, designing flags and creating satellite organization during the many years of their cave life. If you notice, Tigrai is the only region that showed a bigger foot print when they were done with their map making effort. Thus a little bit of Gondar that included the fertile Setit Humera was generously taken, and the Wolikait people were ethnic cleansed with new arrival from Tigrai. Wollo contracted so much it is a miracle it did not disappear, and Afar was not spared from their sharp pencil. If it was not true, it would be considered comical. Why would anybody do that when the Nation was one whole entity? What is good for Tigrai should have been good for all of Ethiopia. TPLF does not think like that. They are incapable of looking at the bigger picture.
    The fate of Assab or a sea outlet for Ethiopia was completely made fun of and they were happy to point their fingers and accuse the rest of us as being unduly concerned and imbued with the usual neftegna mentality. Even Herman Cohen the white peace maker was a little puzzled by their dismissal of the need for a port. Today in 2014 I am not playing the game whether Assab is ours or belongs to the Eritreans but any Ethiopian leader worth his salt should have weighed the ramifications of such a decision. There could have been one hundred and one ways to reach an accommodation where the two Nations could fully utilize the port for the benefit of both people. That would require leadership ability and the ability to protect ones interest for future generations to come. TPLF is incapable of such heavy thinking. They have a retail mentality and wholesale concept is alien to the bird brain organization.
    Notice that the Honorable Ato Gebru is seriously telling us about a truck full of coffee and some cereal being transported to Eritrea while his party was negotiating about changing the name of our Airlines and appointing Eritreans to the National Bank of Ethiopia. Hello Ato Gebru can we have a little respect here?
    When Eritrea achieved its independence in 1992 Woyane leaders were the number one cheerleaders on the podium led by the evil dead tyrant. Ato Gebru and the rest of the politburo members were in accord with this outcome. We did not hear a peep out of them. Woyane upon settling in Addis had a conflict of interest with Eritreans on how to divide the loot. Their contradiction reached such a high point that the two toothless nations went to war to prove their manhood.
    The rest of Ethiopia was dragged into this senseless war. We are told by foreign war specialists over eighty thousand Ethiopians and twenty thousand Eritreans lost their life. Ethiopian soldiers were used as sacrificial lambs to pierce the heavily fortified Eritrean position. The rest of Ethiopia was used to protect Tigrai Kilil. Our dead soldiers were left to be eaten by wild animals. Ethiopian mothers and fathers were not even told who died where and were denied to mourn their children by Ato Gebru’s TPLF party.
    The supposedly ex-Woyane is now telling us that we have to prepare for another war to take over Assab. In his VOA interview he goes further and advocates tearing down the agreement with Eritrea and starting from scratch. As far as this war monger is concerned the Eritreans are expected to lie dead while we march north and take over their country. He actually believes the Eritreans will allow TPLF Woyane to do to their country what they have been doing to Ethiopia the last twenty years. That is not all he even envisions including Somalia that his TPLF army has been committing war crimes as part of his future greater Ethiopia. Coming from a person that created Kilil and tolerated ethnic cleansing (remember Wolkait) to even think of such a scheme is a little radical wouldn’t you say? I know some people whose delusional behavior leaves me with an open mouth, but when it comes to Comrade Gebru my brain ceases to function, my heart palpitates, and my knees buckle by the sheer audacity of his madness……”

    sorry forgot link
    http://www.ethiopianreview.com/index/52018

    • T. Kifle

      Nitricc,

      Where is your “Ethiopian man’s honesty” my man? The book attacks TPLF more than anybody else. That sensible people for sure would grasp it. And you know Gebru is a lost cause as far as your nightmare TPLF is concerned. So please sleep well and calm: TPLFites would never revise their stance on the sovereignty of Eritrea for if they do what it mean’s is they are summoning the near century-old paranoia that drained out the country’s golden opportunities for peace and development. The rest is “hatew qetew” and some people are entitled to their opinions and facts too.

      • Nitricc

        T-K I am discombobulated beyond believes. This is the first time, ever for you to say to an ex-TPLF member “lost cause”. People, there is hope. I have always respected your stand. You stand with no buts and ifs. You articulate what you believe the issue is and in a process, I have learned what the other side thinks and what the beef is! Yesterday Mahmuday had an advice for me and told me to be nice to the T-K’s, Rahwa and the rest of Tigryans because we have live next to each other. No only I am aware of that but the truth is, I have no problem TK and the rest stating their mind and whatever they think is wrong. I do believe in reconciliation and I also believe in a process of reconciliation that nothing is beyond mentioning, argued and scrutinized. The wound not only must be scratched but add some salt to it. Let it fly. That is what it takes to reach to the true reconciliation. And you, TK have done marvelous job representing your side and it helped us to understand your view and your issues. I am glad you and the rest of the Tigryans are here. This is the main reason I respect your position. However; your main short coming is admitting the obvious. You can not blame Eritrea for everything and exonerate TPLF from everything. And today, you surprised me and the first time ever to say anything negative about ex member of TPLF. So, when you bring the beef all out, you are advancing the reconciliation one step forward and when you deny and blame everything on Eritrea; you are taking the reconciliation three steps back. Just you know!
        TK, thanks for admitting the obvious, make it a habit.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Nitrikay,
          That was mature, and really representative of peace loving Eritreans. I almost missed it, gosh , what is going on lately. You see very few get the gist of who truly Nitrikay is. I’m waiting to see you fully in control of your blog.

    • Fetima Dechasa

      Nitircc,

      Your priorities are all screwed up. You should worry less about TPLF/Ethiopia/Gurage/Oromo/Welamo/Amarah etc and worry more about Eritrea. You are deflecting by playing blame games and endless trash talking.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Abay,
    You Have said: “Many tongues, many brains and many hearts have to be normalized before any normalization between Ethiopia and Eritrea.” Absolutely true. In fact change of languages in the way we communicate each other are preconditions to every thing we try to do and bring hopes for both our peoples. And that should start right now. I believe what we are attempting to do at this time is exactly that. Remember those of us who are seeking changes in Eritrea are also facing with the same derogatory words. There is no peace and tranquility without winning against the insulting & demeaning political culture. So the battle is how the goods wins over the evils.
    regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Admas

    “Any future relations, we welcome it only in our terms if not we want
    none of it. Even then Ethiopia needs a convincing reason for it to allot
    time for such a topic and negotiations . We are loosing nothing in the
    current no peace no war situation. So, giftikia, don’t you worry about
    this dream of normalization thing as it will not happen anytime soon and
    when it does, it will be limited to cessation of hostilities. We your
    seniors are not going to let any advantages be taken of you and you our
    juniors we know will handle the situation even better than us.
    Abay”

    Amen! thank u sir, I’m sure that is what every ethiopian would wnat to hear!

  • Abinet

    Abay,Abay,Abay Abay
    YeAger adbar, YeAger Sisay.
    You are gentle and assertive at the same time .
    Please visit often .

  • Fetima Dechasa

    Thank you Abay!!

  • Hope

    Hailat,
    I hope they did not tap you while talking to your contact,which will put him in trouble–for an immediate arrest,unless your conatct is in Mekelle or Addis.,which will make sense.
    As to the Ethiopian Invasion,I thought it is/was a done deal —per the PMHD.
    But NO joke though as it might be a serious —-one and if so—the GoE has the obligation to do what ever is necessary to prep for any eventuality including to call for National Emergency,which seems to be inevitable.
    But you seem to be excited though!

    • haileTG

      Ha ha dear hope, cool on ya:-)

      I am so glad that PFDJ doesn’t conduct routine IQ and aptitude tests…my dear friend hope would have been eliminated in the first round…

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear Haile TG,

        Mis hope shiwaya dehan ena zelena lenkene. Just whispering, you are absolutely right!

        Hawka
        tes

      • Hope

        —That is why they kept my membership as people like me support the PFDJ blindly–and the PFDJ,btw,does NOT like people with high IQ–like you and Tes.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Hope, Lol. if they allow you to be a member (most likely they will not as you will disturb them asking thousands of questions and accountability) you might be lost. take care !! we love you. where will I find one copy of you my friend?

  • haileTG

    Very interesting Rahwa,

    I hope some hitorians weigh in now and educate us more.

    regards

  • Haile WM

    I might be from Yifat but i like Debre Tabor 🙂
    never being to that places but in the past i used to visit Addis Ababa until my eye color suddenly was not accepted 🙂
    Cheers

  • haileTG

    Hello awatista,

    When ideas are exchanged here at brisk and responses have to be provided in short turnaround, we don’t often convey messages in exactly we intend them to be. I often request clarification than use the terms as “twisted” my view or the likes kind of protests. I have thought recently that intensive debaters as me may benefit by making regular house clearing clarifications to help weed out misunderstandings.

    For today, I will dwell on three points:

    what do I mean by derg was better than PFDJ in Eritrea

    The derg of Ethiopia is neither humane nor particularly pro-people. In Eritrea, its atrocities were recorded around battlefields and those countryside that were targeted as sheltering tegadelti or sympathizers. On economic provision, the history of Korem and bombardment of Hawtzien in Tigray tell the stories. My take here is that Derg, had managed to maintain basic services, pension, electricity and water supply despite a huge war, where PFDJ had miserably failed with peace, popular support and people financed and slaved projects. So, if for example Abi, is thinking I am thanking derg for persecuting a war and not taking the legal route of self determination, then you are mistaken. Derg didn’t need to do that and it didn’t really buy it the support in the end.

    what is my intention when I applaud Ethiopians who are pleased with the progress of their country

    Confidence. Eritrea had the capacity to prosper and more. PFDJ/ IA is and has been (as it is clear now) purposely destroying the pillars of the country and dispersing its population. Eritrea’s, natural, human and and geo-strategic blessings are beyond measure. It is a nation in the grips of our blood enemy and once it is broken to pieces, economy would not be our major problem. Such a settled self awareness frees you not to be anxious and perturbed by other’s success or acknowledging it. If you have a bread, you can’t possibly be bothered by someone having a bread too. My calculation of Ethio-Eritrea understanding is deeper and I am only entertained by those who find it a matter of discussion to count millions of dollars in comments section of this great website.

    what is my take on the so called “good news” about Eritrea

    Sadly, it is acutely misplaced to seek good news to assuage one’s ego. The good news are the small successes in refugee camps, the small success in the struggle against oppression. The good news is reversal of any or all of the oppressive systems. Good news is how the families of PFDJ victims are copping. I truly pity for those who can’t restrain themselves from unpicking good news from PFDJ media. No one can parallel Eritrean leaders in falsehood at this time. Has that been their nature all along or it is a desperate measure to hide the collapse and disintegration of the Eritrean state before our very eyes is for another debate. But the truth of the matter is currently PFDJ media is a lie from a – z and dignifying its reports with good news is simply breathtakingly hopeless.

    regards

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Haile TG,

      Your words are very honest and deep sources:

      “The good news are the small successes in refugee camps, the small success in the struggle against oppression. The good news is reversal of any or all of the oppressive POLICIES set forth by PFDJ system. Good news is how the families of PFDJ victims are copping.”

      These types of your comments always make me to wake-up early and read Awate Forum comment section. Thank you for having you.

      Hawkha,
      tes

  • Admas

    “How come there are more young Ethiopian Artists (music) promoting Ethio/Eritrea friendship?”, Haile TG in response to Fatima,

    In fact Haile raised a good point assuming the so called “ethio/eritrea relation promoters” are not business driven and genuine in their quest for peace, but doesn’t that ever make you wonder why there are no young Eritreans(at least from Haile’s camp) promoting ethio/eritrean relation?…I’m sure you have heard of the saying “it takes two to tango” but in truth there is just not enough reason to belive there is a mutual interest between the people just because some calculative Eritrean politians in oppostion camp shade crocodile tears in the name of Tigrians near the border. ..truth be told, there is just too much of a misguided perception of each other between the two people where by one expects unfair advantage over the other, hence it needs generations to heal such a misgided belief that was furmented during the long strugle for overhyped “natsnet”….Ethiopia legara is all I can sense even in the tone of the most sober Eritreans such as Haile TG…Good if can be repeated again, but it will be deadly once again…

    • Admas

      sorry on my last sentence I meant “good if the pre 98 relation for which people like Haile are craving can be safely repeated, but it will be deadly once again” …..

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Chers Awatistats,

    Voila, 16 Octobre 2014 a la plus grande jour de l’honte de dictateur de Asmara en France à Paris. C’était vraiment une grande erreur d’inviter une personne qui répresante du régime qui asservit son peuple. Mais ça va, c’est un avantage et bon d’exposer également les actes en publique. Merci, public senat, MERCI BEAUCOUP!

    http://www.eritreadaily.net/News2014/article201410171.htm

    For those who can understand well the French language, the argument that the Ambassador tried to bring added only a fuel to the discussion. PFDJ being exposed every where!

    Votre frère
    tes

    • Tesfabirhan WR
      • Tesfabirhan WR

        The biggest and fundamental mistake done was to invite the ambassador.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xya3cVj6W9A

      • destaa

        The Awate team in France is doing a nice job. Thank you for the video. And it is Professor Legesse Asmerom who is next to the Ambassador? I asked that because he is the most famous person for the Oromo of Ethiopia. H

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear destaa,

          You are right that Professor Asmerom Legesse was one of the attendants. I do not know why he was there. probably he is continuing his research on legal issues as France is a good place to get good information on laws. Another could also be on researching the socialist system of France.

          Professor Asmerom is meant a lot to Oromo people as he spent 40 years of his life studying on the society of Oromo and he wrote a book that it later became a reference as guiding principle in the movement of Oromo against the Amhara oppressors and for the emancipation of their own people.

          But for the Eritreans, though he has very important contribution, he remained unnoticed till then. Hope, he will write about the totalitarian system of PFDJ and its failed social justice ideology.

          • destaa

            Thank you Tes for your reply. I think he is there because he is part of PFDJ.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        tes,
        can you summarize what’s going on? You’ve got me, for the first time asking for translation! Now, I know what others feel when they are not able to follow a heated debate.

        • tatari

          Mahmud,
          She contested the used of “dictatorship” for describing Eritrea and said the journalist has not asked for the gov. to give his point of view. To what a man saying he is from “reporter with borders” replies that it is impossible for a reporter to be given an authorisation to go and work in eritrea.

          The journalist said it is basicaly a film about the sinai and the joung eritreans fleeing their country. She asked “what are they fleeing”? The amb. said “it is true that the military service has been ‘prolonged’ because the international community has not done it’s job. Ethiopia is imposing a “neither war nor peace” situation to small eritrea”.
          To what the journalist replied “seeing those young people, who know the dangers as they know about lampedusa and the sinai situation choosing to flee shows that the eritrean situation must be far from ideal”.

          All in all, you feel like the amb. made her points and may be won the debate as no one could go into specifics about that ‘prolonged’ military service.Not even the young eritrean who asked something about the gov. not being “concerned”…

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Tatari
            Thanks, I have been waiting for tes’ translation for 11 days, maybe he’s still working on his French.

  • Eyob Medhane

    tatari,

    Really? It’s very interesting an Austria Ethiopian blog has listed the “good doctor” as an owner there. That is where I got the information from. Thank you so much for correcting me…..

  • Yoty Topy

    Humour?

  • feven1

    It seems the “moderate” Haile TG has missed a gay-offensive comment from a moderator Saleh gadhi who in defense of Sawa homosexuals tried to score a point against Derg soldiers….Salah Gadhi often complains how the then Ethiopian army(Derg) had no shortage of Eritrean women to rape yet he forgets it whenever he needs it for a different argument….

  • feven1

    ok, ok, ok, now take your pill and take a nap before u continue….

  • haileTG

    Thank you Abebe and God bless you and your great country. Actually, Araya was born and brought up in Ethiopia and sadly consumed by hate for reasons known to him. I can I assure you he will have no voice in the Eritrea that is raising from the ashes of PFDJ caused devestation. Keep the good hope brother.

  • said

    The show of force in the recent events in Yemen by Ansarallah, the powerful militia arm of the strong Houthi Tribe followers of the Zaydi Sect (moderate Shiites representing 30% of the total Yemenite population) carry a very strong message beyond any narrow parochial
    and State Considerations to the broader subtle regional rivalry along Sunni-Shi’ite Sectarian lines.

    To any observer, the successes of the Show of Force in the field, thus far, in particular at the Yemeni Capital,Sana’a, by Ansarallah [the name translated as “Loyalists of God” that appears increasingly tailored after the Lebanese Shiite Militia of Hezbollah (Arabic for “The Party of God”)] is a reflection of the entrenchments of the forces followers of the Shiite sect in the Middle Eastern. Viewed from that optic – broad and general context – the militant shi’ite militias appear to be consolidating their forces to facing up to what can be interpreted or imagined as the imminent existential threat posed by the Sunni militias and this southern movement who want to separate increasingly asserting its power in the South of Yemen, the Houthis seem wanting to grab the moment; seize to virtual power, here and now, in anticipation of what’s piling ahead. The Ansarallah current pre-emptive military initiatives in Yemen cannot be isolated from a bid by the Shi’ite militant forces at large in the region – possibly with the tacit orchestration and tangible support of the polity of the Islamic Republic of Iran – to acting in tandem in a bid to entrenching and asserting their virtual power in anticipation of an inevitable flare-up of a Sunni-Shiite Sectarian showdown.

    Sadly, it appears we are all now beyond what Goodwill and wishful thinking can deliver in trying to forestall the inevitable impending Sectarian war in the Middle Eastern region that, as in the example of the European Religious Wars of the 19th century, extending for over thirty years. The glimpse of hope remains – notwithstanding the unstoppable force of the torrent of the actual events and the inevitable – that as in the aftermath of the European Religious wars ushering in the birth of the promising liberating Age of the Enlightenment, the Muslim thought and Islamic heritage will be profoundly revisited.

  • Saleh Johar

    Amen,
    If Gedab News follows your suggestions, it will not be a news outlet, but a propaganda outlet just like the PFDJ outlets. Does awate.com equate Eritrea with the regime? After a hysterical laugh, please answer your own question.

  • T..T.

    Hope,

    By the way, don’t blame the Saudis or the Arab Gulf states for Isayas’s failure. Indeed, it is from those countries that Isayas’s government earns almost 99% of its outside of the country 2% revenue. It appears like those countries favor Isayas because of his government style, very much like theirs – Amirized and the Eritrean people have to kiss his hands for favors.

    Terrorists as groups, organizations or governments are characterized by lack of love and respect for basic rights of human beings. Isayas’s government not only falls within those categories but also lacks any kind of democracy, call it African, Eritrean or any, and that is why it doesn’t have any mechanisms of accountability regarding human rights in Eritrea. The world represented by OAU (not the international community) is calling on Isayas to
    make immediate home cleaning and without that the already worsening conditions in Eritrea will lead to a failed state.

    Before it is too late, the OAU wants to intervene (like it did in Somalia) in all near-failing states and claim moral legitimacy with the power to speak for and defend the rights of the people in those countries. It is true that the ongoing problems in Eritrea are not showing any improvement despite the under table foreign aides. The Eritreans feel every minute
    of the day like of nice days are behind them.

    Those referred to as nice days are the days they used to get one-bread a day for breakfast and then empty stomach for the rest of the day.

  • feven1

    Haile TG,
    I wonder why it took you 50 years of hate-mongering plus that one disastrous war Badime for you to realize Ethiopians and Eritreans all of a sudden need to build trust…? Of course you are entitled to your tactical crocodile tears as opposed to your other keens whose strategy is not so much of a strategy, but to criticize those of us Ethiopians who for many historical reasons don’t trust you and your country, you have to come up with a convincing argument rather than just preaching empty words……forgive for being brutally honest but I personally prefer Hostile Eritrea rather than a supposedly “friendly” Eritrea as history proves Eritrea is easier tamed as an enemy than a friend it will never be….It is often the resean why I tent to refer to your identity, cos your idenity was born out of hating us and it can only sustained by hating us…that is what i mean..As for me crying over a spilled milk, I am actually enjoying the cheesy smell of the spilled milk…I love blue cheese despite it’s spillover effect…

    • haileTG

      Hi feven..chill out (your head might snap off otherwise:)

      BTW we didn’t need to build trust since 50 years ago, it goes far back to the times of the wuchale treaty.

      I didn’t get you’re milk and cheese stuff, but you sure sounded like a cat chasing its tail and getting mad about it. Well next time, if you believe people hate you, then telling them so only amounts to stating the obvious for you and for them. Why split your lungs for it, isn’t there a more productive stuff to do with those you love (if you ever were capable of loving anything that is) than getting desperate and emotional with those you’re trying to convince that you hate (wink) – BTW all this is just for you – not intended to 90 million Ethiopians (most of which you’ve never met in your life:)

      • Eyob Medhane

        Haile,

        Would you mind me to do a little interjection here? Sure you don’t mind 🙂

        Aside the overly “brutally honest” stuff that Feven had to say, I wish many Eritreans realize the current mindset of particularly the current generation of Ethiopians, and how PFDJ is playing with it masterfully. When many Ethiopians read a headline screaming “Ethiopian Airlines should be called Ebola Airlines”, from a “news” outlet that professes to be “Eritrean” website, they instantly think it comes from Eritreans. What many sane Eritreans like you do not understand is based on decades of support they had for EPLF/PFDJ, Ethiopians believe that kind of attitude actually comes from the majority of Eritreans. We have gotten a boat load of verbal abuse, hurtful put downs and sinister maligning from many Eritreans in the past, it is not easy to let it go. I believe that is where Feven’s stern (a bit over the top, if you ask me) push back comes from. When you say “building trust” I believe, I wish there was a way for many Eritreans to shade that image and feeling that we so got used to from Eritreans….Though I disagree with her tone, I understand it and I wish you would see how the shoes fit on our feet…..

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Eyob,
          This has been my objection to generalization as you know.

          Let me propose a solution: what if you divided Eritreans into two: 1) Decent Eritreans, and 2) Indecent Eritreans. How about that? Then you will also do the same to Ethiopians: 1) Decent Ethiopians, and 2) Indecent Ethiopians. That way it will be clear provided the decent remember they are supposed to be decent. The indecent? They can’t help but be themselves 🙂

          • Eyob Medhane

            Gash Saleh?

            I am way ahead of you on that, as you see in my comment to Haile. But, as it is our thing to put ya’all on the “therapy couch”, I just devided all between “sane” and “insane”… 🙂

          • Saleh Johar

            I will go with “sane” and “insane.”

        • haileTG

          Dear Eyob,

          My advise (albeit unsolicited) is never condone what is evidently wrong. You are witness to the fact that there are multitude of Ethiopian websites that are replete with all kinds of abusive messages towards Eritreans. I would not “understand” an Eritrean who behaves the way feven does simply because his/her feelings might have their origins. There was times in Ethiopia, where dictatorial or other regimes who used public medium to call different ethnic Ethiopians, Eritreans and others bad names. Those regimes were not propagating opinions of the Ethiopian masses but concepts that would perpetrate hate in order to monopolize power. Eritreans supported EPLF for purposes of independence struggle and not for insulting or verbally abusing others. All PFDJ news media desperately harp on inventing the worst possible insult they can throw at Ethiopia because Ethiopia is the only reason the regime justify its existence on. I can understand there is deep rooted mistrust among our peoples, and only a firm stand on moral and right course of action would increase positive outcome. We have countless fevenites on both sides of the border and mostly specialize in fomenting division, hostility, wars, pestilence and every other evil associated with hate. Have no ear to evil and condemn it whichever side it comes from. Because in the end, we do it to ourselves and nobody else.

          No matter what there should be no reason to burn in hate like feven from the comfort of the west, while our both poor peoples at home are helping one another from what little they have. Feven Tegbalech ebakih eyobay 🙂

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Hello dear Haile,

            We meet again, virtually 🙂

            I once again want to understand your continuous implication that such hatred is shared by both people but I strongly disagree, again! To the contrary the people of Ethiopia viewed Eritreans as our own while a nation called Eritrea was being born out of utter hate for Ethiopia and her people. You also stated that there are “Ethiopian websites that replete all kind of abusive messages towards Eritreans”. Can you please give me some examples of credible Ethiopian website or media outlet abusing Eritrea/Eritreans?

            Thanks in advance.
            PS I see you are still playing the ethnic baiting games 🙂

          • Eyob Medhane

            Fetima,

            Thank you…you reminded me of that…

            Yes Haile “TG” 😉

            …Give me ONE just ONE website that is hateful and abusive toward Eritreans….ONE would be enough…I however, can give you a link for not just one “Eritrean” website, but several. Particularly, a link for an editor’s comment of such website, who instructed a commenter, who wrote in Amharic not to write in Amharic, because “there was no one, who speaks monkey in there”….I will give you that link right now, should you provide me a SINGLE website that is racist, abusive towards the Eritrean people…… You can choose from opposition or supporters of Ethiopian government. Just give me one URL that is created under the name Ethiopia, that does what you alleged it does….Please..I am waiting…

          • haileTG

            Selamat Fetima and Eyob

            First off, to your challenge;

            The website (that the relevant pages seem to be currently “down for maintenance”) http://www.cyberethiopia.com has hosted many articles that refer to Eritrea as “ye banda Ager” or ‘Arr’tera” and the rest while referring to Eritreans as “yebanda zer”. By all means, this is not the only website that supports extreme views against Eritreans but I hoped it would have served the purpose if those pages were up. You can also look those “racist and abusive” languages in google and you would come up with multitude of ethio websites hosting them.

            Eyob: you set the rules before hand and for us to be on a level ground, let me also set the rule from my side that you would not include a PFDJ owned and operated website or blog. Fair?

            Fetima: You seem to construe my statement that all Ethiopians are not of the same view to be ethnic bait! How so? Are you saying that Ethiopia’s over 80 different ethnicities and peoples are beholden to the same view to those on a specific chosen part of Ethiopia? For example, all Eritreans don’t share identical views on most issues. A highland Eritrean has more kinship relationship to northern Ethiopia than the Sudan. This would be different to the lowland Eritrean. Eritrea doesn’t represent identical views, heritages and historical backgrounds amongest all of its ethnic groupings. Why should statement of fact be threatening to the views you wish to advance? We in Eritrea have long used the one people, one heart mantra and learned that it means nothing except shallow rhetoric. It is understandable that fear of the other is feeding that kind of irrational suspicion in what I am really saying. But the fact remains that different sections of our populations are related in blood, language, history and religion in kinship relationships to different parts of neighboring peoples. That is a fact not a bait. That doesn’t mean that all of them shouldn’t be primary loyal to their nation and country but it is a fact that would drive much of the political organizing and administration.

            Incidentally, the Ethiopia you are so proud of fared extremely worse when under regime’s that attempted to deny such cardinal truth. It is the recognition and empowerment of such diversity that has ushered the kind of relative stability and development you so jealously guard now. In fact, when EPRDF moved in that direction, I was one of the people who thought they will never pull it. However, considering how they fared well, they have made original contribution to my knowledge and understanding in the relationship of political science to political philosophy. It doesn’t mean they didn’t take risk and they didn’t face challenges, but these are details we need to study in depth based on the fact that they have now contributed a valid material knowledge that would help increase our understanding of such an important field.

            When I say Ethiopia, Eritrea and others are diverse, that is all I mean. I am not intending to bait anyone. But I suspect you are trying to hide the reality of such truth in order to justify your point of view that (taken to its logical conclusion) is of destructive rather than constructive. Political systems built on destructive premises as dividing people and denying their commonality fall under the broad area of counter-civilization tendencies and essentially backward. Constructive and progressive political philosophy doesn’t result in your kind of (at empirical level) thinking destined to divide and weaken.

            Regards

          • Eyob Medhane

            Ha, ha….Hailachin,

            Actually, when I set that “rule” I had cyberethiopia in mind…. The page ‘under maintenance’ you are referring to actually is a ‘comment in Amharic’ free forum, which is free of responsibilities of the editors. (They actually have a disclaimer that says that cyberethiopia is not responsible for the comments written on warka) It actually says so in its guidelines, and open pretty much for every one. If you notice, almost all the writers (commenters) are the same for years, who some, by their own admission are Eritreans. Anyway, even cyberethiopia.com, a website that is own and operated by Dr. Yayehyirad Kitaw, a man who was a Minister of Health, and later Education, doesn’t have a racist abusive articles and news items on it’s main page and front page, which are responsibilities of the editors…

            Speaking if that, I have a chop of PMHD speaking of Such people…. He’s sort of funny explaining them.. (I said sort of, leave me alone… 🙂

            http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3749379

          • haileTG

            Ha ha Eyoba,

            ረመጥ የረገጠች ደሮ…haha love it.

            But on the issue at hand, let’s be honest and not obfuscate the matter with rules. Both sides have people as bad or worse than each other and we all lived with that. On Eritrean side, the offender is curiously one side, PFDJ and its supporters. Only identity of the hooligans differ not the content. The challenge is who will have the last say, I say the sane side:-)

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Hello again Haile,

            Below are my answers to your inquires:

            “Are you saying that Ethiopia’s over 80 different ethnicities and peoples are beholden to the same view to those on a specific chosen part of Ethiopia?”

            How is this any of your concern as an Eritrea? And from previous exchange in which you implied that I wasn’t showing concerned to the people of Northern region of MY country because I personally preferred to deal with Kenya, which happened to be closed to my birthplace. This sort of redundant implications show that you somehow feel that you know better or care more about my fellow Ethiopians in other parts of MY country than me?! When an outsider like yourself use such rhetoric, it’s often for ethnic baiting. You sir do it quite often while trying to appear so above it.

            “For example, all Eritreans don’t share identical views on most issues. A highland Eritrean has more kinship relationship to northern Ethiopia than the Sudan. This would be different to the lowland Eritrean. Eritrea doesn’t represent identical views, heritages and historical backgrounds amongest all of its ethnic groupings.”

            With all due respect sir, I could care less about what Eritrea/Eritreans do within their country. Your country, your business.

            “Why should statement of fact be threatening to the views you wish to advance?”

            What makes you think that I’m threatened just because I call you out on your relentless ethnic baiting in your hopes to appeal to certain ethnic groups emotions? The irony in this is the fact that I’m of the sort of “ethnic group” outsiders would like to appeal too :).

            “Incidentally, the Ethiopia you are so proud of fared extremely worse when under regime’s that attempted to deny such cardinal truth.”

            Please explain to me how this is your concern?
            And yes, I’m very proud of my country and her history, this isn’t even up for debate.

            “I am not intending to bait anyone. But I suspect you are trying to hide the reality of such truth in order to justify your point of view that (taken to its logical conclusion) is of destructive rather than constructive.”

            Hide the reality? What exactly is my view point sir? Like I told you in another thread, as an Ethiopian, I’ve no business discussing my household business with an outsider. Simple!

            “Political systems built on destructive premises as dividing people and denying their commonality fall under the broad area of counter-civilization tendencies and essentially backward. Constructive and progressive political philosophy doesn’t result in your kind of (at empirical level) thinking destined to divide and weaken.”

            Well, if this isn’t the pot calling the kettle… ay dios mio. The only thing I can say about this wordplay is that… if you wish to have a fruitful result in your “mission” to promote a bipartisan relationship between the two countries; you should stay in your Eritrean lane and let Ethiopians worry about what is going on within Ethiopia, period.

          • haileTG

            Hi Fetima

            Classic! Hypocracy to the brim!! What business of yours is you even dare mention Kenya? Leave alone its economic or geographical assets? Please, stay to your lane of the border and tell us how it feels not to have a neighbor you can do business and other economic dealings. I haven to be on one side of the border with the same interest on the other that you wish to show of on the other end of the line. Again, your outlook appears to be narrowed down to your specific political/geographical grouping. The people of Tigray and Eritrea are naturally bound by land, history and tradition. So are the people Beja on Sedan/Eritrea So are the Ogadien on Somalia/Ethiopia. So your isolationist view point is rather disingenuous and doesn’t dismiss people to people principle in its totality but only wish to undermine the interests of the common people on the Ethio/Eritrea border. If you are for “household” principle, apply it across board and tell us again how you will fare out of the whole region. You couldn’t do that because the “reality you wish to hide” is to harm the interests of the people in both sides of the Ethiopia/Eritrea border. Well, your household rule is factually and consequently invalidated as nothing more than a politics. As I said to you, it concerns me because it has a direct impact on facts on ground that serve my interest. The reason I consider your take is somewhat different is that you don’t even care about the conflict that is dividing both peoples at the moment. You took a position that is against your government’s stand on the matter. That shows you are more after dividing the common people on the northern border than caring for the whole of Ethiopia and its concerns. I am not exactly debating matters specifically concerning southern Ethiopia and hence, I don’t think think its outside my remit to talk about issues that directly affect me.

            Regards

          • Nitricc

            Why are you wasting your time?
            Go a head my man. If you think you are going make a Dent with this people carry on. You know better.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Haile,

            Oh dear :). I dare you to show me where I inserted my unwarranted two cents in Kenya or Kenyan matters. I double, triple dare you. You can’t! Because this isn’t true and you made the above statement due to the fact that you couldn’t give me a straight forward answer as to my question on your unremitting ethnic implications.

            My initial response to your “beach vacation” in Eritrea comment was that Kenya was closer to home for me and that I have no desire to visit, which is fact. Besides, Kenyan resorts are some of the best in Africa, fact.

            An Eritrean who is for the betterment of Tigrai people LOL now I think I’ve heard it all. Why not also for the betterment of the people of Afar who are also bordering Eritrea? (rhetorical question). Truth is you and I both know very well that the people of Tigrai have a big influence in current Ethiopian politics and you want economic partnership with Ethiopia so this “I care about our bordering Tigrai people” is nothing but a lackluster checker move.

          • haileTG

            aha ..OK Fetima let me put it in straight terms,

            You stated to value Kenyan attributes. Right? I really hope you don’t back out on that. Now if Ethiopia and Kenya (God forbid) fall out and their common border is closed off then the implication is that you would lose what you value. Doesn’t that concern you? We are talking Ethio/Eritrea not Ethiopian internal matters. Hence when I say it concerns me, I am saying it concerns Eritreans not saving Tigrayans. Now imagine an Ethiopian in Tigray telling you Eritrean beach are a stone throw for them and couldn’t careless about “some economic losses” to those in the south if Ethio-Kenya border is shut off for good. You see Fetima, You are not talking on behalf of Ethiopia proper but your narrow political interest to separate the Tigray political class from Eritrean political class. That is a fact. Ethiopia accepted to demarcate our common border based on dialog. If your take, the same as that of PFDJ is weighed the Ethiopian concern of some Ethiopians losing their land as per EEBC is of irrelevant to you. That was our position, but considering some issues as the land of Erob people, most opposition Eritreans are saying EEBC with agreed exchange of lands. In your case you have unusually cut off those people whom Ethiopia is saying as a reason for stalling the demarcation. Your points were betrayed now inadvertently when you said it loud and clear: you don’t want the re-establishment of relationship between the people of Tigray and Eritrea because it is against your political stand to do so. Tigrayans or Afars of Ethiopia have blood kinship on the other side and I fully support restoration of relationship between them. Yet, don’t forget, if it was for you none of them would have anything to do with the other, only Southern Ethiopia with its Southern neighbors!! These are facts you registered when you said demarcate the border and supported the idea of building a wall. I hope the people in the South don’t get the wall too, it won’t be fun scaling it on a beach shorts:-)

            cheers

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Dear Haile,

            I disdain the semantics at play and you are clearly putting words in my mouth again in order to appeal as a concern Eritrean for people Tigrai (and now Afar since I mention it, geez) rather than your own interest. The issue here is that the double dealings, not political or geographical walls. The people of Ethiopia including Tigrai region know what is best for ourselves and do have competent individuals handling internal and external politics so again you can stay on your lane. As for Kenya, no worries about Ethiopia and Kenya because this will be of ours and Kenyans concerns, not Eritrea/Eritreans. Simply put, Eritrea for Eritreans and Ethiopia for Ethiopians.

          • haileTG

            Dear Fetima,

            It can’t be any other way, as per your parting shot. The rest falls short on dose of reality, nations bound by proximity would invariably have common interests and goals in many areas. Narrow fringe sentiments often fall by the wayside as they happen to be bizzar and pessimistic.

            Your stand is of course individual but helped us to analyze the problems of our common peoples from a unique perspective. I would retract any stated or implied position that I claimed to be yours. When abugida said demarcate and build a wall you supported it, that was rather telling that you are trying to sell the short end of the stick to your people garbed in hyper nationalizm that even us Eritreans are leaving behid. Your position implicates me as an Eritrean and Ethiopians that are struggling to resolve the issue of what they see as problematic in settling the matter. I saw it that way.

          • Abinet

            Haile TG
            Please allow me to interject here uninvited.
            There is something you are missing here . I divide ethiopians and their attitude towards eritrea by age . The new and old generation. Those under 40 and those above.
            I am sure Fatima is under 40 . This age group is very smart , dynamic and extremely aware of world politics including the region . They are also relatively better educated considering the number of universities in the country. And unfortunately this group has less knowledge of eritrea . They care less for eritrea or any relationship with eritrea.
            I like your effort in mending the broken relationship. that works for me and Horizon . Not for Fatima and Feven or the other millions who do not know eritrea . I see it in my own younger relatives . They don’t just care.
            Haile , as much as I respect you , your argument is at least 25 years late .
            The other group ( old) is a mixed bag . Some are still angry about the ports, some are forgetting eritrea all together ( yerasachew guday) .
            The other thing is , whoever witnessed the extreme arrogance of Eritreans after your independence, will never trust them again regardless of age group. The trust is gone.
            Let me tell you a story that happened in addis after the independence.
            An eritrean was involved in a car accident. When the traffic police approached him , he screamed at him saying ” nealumek ( whatever that means)I am eritrean” . Basically he told him he is above the law since he is an eritrean . Imagine what do we feel? What would you say if you were Fatima?
            Regards

          • haileTG

            Hey Abi, please see my earlier reply. Also, a small mathematical theory is in order:

            When Ethio/Eritrea normalize and have fruitful cooperation, two decades later, Fetima and her band of dynamo would be over 50 and the new under 40 would forget their ridiculous wall agenda. Let’s call a spade a spade, there are ethio hater Eris and vis versa. Reason understood, enalumek (I don’t know what means 😉 The stats you provided are ad hoc. Many complexities also have been gone through, but Fetima my be dynamic business-wise but not so politically (from Ethiopia’s interest point of view forget Eritrea for now). Haters in both sides got opportune time in the recent past but with realization of peace, stability and rule of law in Eritrea, they will be put back to sleep again 🙂 One thing I sleep well at night about Eritrea is its enormous economic potential for a small size country. The political and stability issues are the only worry, so sell me peace instead. Economics, well least of my worries.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Haile,

            I think I know what enalumek means…

            I am gonna have to have this guy sing it for me… 🙂

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulEMWj3sVA

          • Eyob Medhane

            Haile,

            Enalumek…I think I know what that means…

            I will have this guy sing it for me.. 🙂

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulEMWj3sVA

          • Deogane

            I am one of the silent Ethiopian visitor of this and other eritrean websites. What I did not like about comments from feven or other what you named young Ethiopians is bragging, like we have this and we have that and bad mouthing the other side. That is unEthiopian. If they consider it as a revenge, the best revenge is ‘move forward and live better’.

        • Araya

          “Ebola Airlines”!lol
          I just hope Ethiopia does not get hit with Ebola. If a single person is infected in Ethiopia, then by the time Ethiopia is done with Ebola; her population will be equal to Eritrea. Simply put, Ethiopia is not equipped to deal with such nasty virus, over-populated and hygiene is at its worst as we speak in Ethiopia. I am not mocking or wishing bad thing. I am just warning you what will happen. To give you a clue, the biggest hospital in Monrovia is shut down and most of the doctors who run the hospital are dead. So, god forbid, if Ebola to hit Ethiopia, I don’t want think about it, not funny.

          • Saleh Johar

            Araya,
            It is noble not wish evil on anyone let alone the people from our neighborhood.
            But what do you think will happen to Eritrea if the virus gets hold? I believe all underdeveloped world are at the same pedestal here, even the developed West doesn’t fare better. One case of the virus reported anywhere in the neighborhood should scare us equally. This is not a matter of jokes or scoring nasty, savage points as some are doing.

          • feven1

            Ebola is more deadlier in a militarized sociaty where people live in a cramped military camp than a big wide country where people are free to choose where to live….by the way, evidences from refugees crossing to Ethiopia suggests that homesexuality in Sawa has also increased due to the segregated lifesitel soldgers lead in military camp….

          • Saleh Johar

            Feven,
            Nice observation, but many people said so of the Derg soldiers who spent decades alone in remote camps…What was it? 16 years and tens of thousands of them!

          • feven1

            good on you, if comparing your current predicement with that of 20th century comunist brutality makes you feel better…….oh, yeh, it was 16 years and it is over, unlike the 20 something years and still going…

          • Araya and others,

            By any chance, Araya, could you be one of those Eritreans whose relatives are living in the safe haven of Addis Ababa, and yet they wish the ten plagues of the ancient world to come upon Ethiopia, from a safe distance in the West? If so, don’t you care for your relatives’ wellbeing? What about the 100K Eritrean refugees in Ethiopia? Don’t you worry about them too? Do you think that the Ebola virus would reach the Ethio-Eritrean border and say, stop Eritrea is off limits?

            Last time it was ISIS, now Ebola. What a well-wisher you are. You are really an exception.

            It is pathetic to see those from both sides who get a kick out of belittling each other’s people. Is this how Ethiopians and Eritreans measure their patriotism? Unfortunately, they are half a century late. Ethiopians and Eritreans have been doing this in
            the battlefields, political arenas and the media. Nowadays, they are bored to death to hear any more of this verbal warfare coming from both sides. People should better find something else to do, more pro-peace, pro-humanity and civilized.

          • Nitricc

            Horizen
            I won’t ask the Eritreans because it is a new fashion to blame everything Eritrea and Eritrean. Now, would you please show me where Araya wished Ebola for your country? I mean I read it five times and I couldn’t find. Would you please point it out for me, please? I am not defending Araya I just want to know for my self?
            Thanks.
            what is wrong with you Ethiopians? GHM!

          • Nitricc,
            Asking the usual question “where is the evidence” to show that Araya was not wishing Ebola for Ethiopia, simply because he said, “I am not mocking or wishing bad things” for Ethiopia, does not change the essence of his message. Which way you slice or dice it, the message is far from being benign. Adapting the title, “Ebola
            Airlines” and the statement that “by the time Ethiopia is done with Ebola, her population will be equal to Eritrea” say much more than you want to accept. We are talking about 90% of Ethiopians. It is no joke at all. No epidemic has killed 90% of any population since the discovery of antibiotics, anti-viral drugs, modern special isolation methods
            and the world community that is ready to help. Ethiopia is preparing herself to face any situation that might arise from Ebola. She is not the US or EU. Nevertheless, at least she has time on her side. Therefore, it is not a bad idea to be more rational.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Horizon:
            Don’t put yourself that low, why would you take such comments serious? Ebola is a deadly virus, I don’t wish it spread to any corner of humanity let alone my neighbor Ethiopia, and any one who insinuates that type of wish for Ethiopia doesn’t represent Eritreans; you know that better than anybody, Horizon. Araya’s comment is malicious and I don’t support it, and you could see other Eritreans opposing it. This is not politics folks, Ebola doesn’t care about your national border, color of your skin or the barometer of your patriotism.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Araya,

            Sometimes I fear when I see extreme hate towards human being and the conscience gets blind. How can one wish or give a title (name) which has extremely bad to have it?

            Are we in the stage of not separating humanity from politics? How bad mouthed we are trying to air. Ebola is a killer and has no mercy on human being, above all, there is no means to escape if it is around. I felt bad for the first time, extremely bad, actually of not hate, but because of love to humanity, when I read in the PFDJ sponsored puppet websites about Ebola and giving nickname for the people’s carrier airline. This is extreme blindness. When hate conquers heart, everything simply turns upside down.

            And you Araya, are you trying to repeat the same hate mongering blind words? I think you are better than that. Ebola is a threat to human existence, not to Ethiopians only but to whole humanity.

            I can not say that there is a possible Ebola contaminated individual in Eritrea but I am in doubt as Eri-Tv broadly aired a campaign and public awareness about this. There could be a possibility of infection, I am suspecting that though everything is secret. We all know that Eritreans at this time are doing business in Uganda, Congo, Zambia, Angola, South Sudan and many more African countries. Thinking on the poorly equipped quarantine system at the airport, individuals who do frequent visit to those mentioned countries can carry the virus. I am just thinking on possible means.

            And second, if the Ebola virus is in Ethiopia, simultaneously it is Eritrea too. though there is no official cross-border movement, thousands of people cross for many reasons.

            Hence, let’s not wish or give names related to that killer virus. In fact, it can make you guilty as it is a global insult to humanity. How can one dear to say, “Ebola Airlines” In out what sense? What are the motives? Aren’t we human being? Those at madote.com and tesfanews.com are guilty for heading their content like that and we as Eritreans can not forget this and of course the whole world population who is in shock and already became a victim of this deadly virus.

            We, Eritreans wish good for others. Forget the PFDJ juntas, they are not Eritreans by all standards and even they are killers just like that of Ebola. Satan knows satan and hence killer knows killer and a killer welcomes a killer.

            Araya, we can talk on Eritrean or Ethiopian politics and its bad consequence. But, by all means, we can not wish bad to happen to humanity and hence to Ethiopians, Eritreans, South Sudanese, Liberians, etc. if we do so, this is non-human and is guiltiness.

            I urge the Ethiopian Airlines to open a case for the administrators of madote.com and tesfanews for campaigning against their business protocol and blackmailing the airlines.

            Araya, stay away from such blackmailing and be human and be like your name is telling. Ar-Aya, means to be an example, to see good, to be a model and is always for good. hope you will not do it the other way: A good example of bad!

            tes

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Araya,

            While you dream of our demise, we are dreaming and achieving:

            “Ethiopian Airlines has won the Passenger Choice Award for “Best Airline in Africa” for the second time at the Airline Passenger Experience (APEX) EXPO, which was held from September 15-18, 2014, in California.”

            Awards
            “Africa’s Best Business Class Airline” from Best Travel Media on December 18, 2013
            “African Airline of the Year Award 2013” from the African Airlines Association on November 25, 2013
            “Ethiopian CEO won 2013 Planet Africa Professional Excellence Award” from Planet Africa Awards on 2 November 2013
            “African Airline of the Year Award” from Pan-African Award Committee on October 27, 2013
            “Best Cabin Crew in Africa” from Pan-African Award Committee on October 27, 2013
            “African Business of the Year 2013” from African Business Awards on September 20, 2013
            “Best Regional Airline” from Airline Passenger Experience Association (APEX) on September 9, 2013
            “Ethiopian CEO Wins 2013 Airline strategy Award for Regional leadership” from Airline Business Magazine on July 14, 2013
            “SKYTRAX World Airline Award for Best Airline Staff Service in Africa’ from SKYTRAX on June 18, 2013
            “Airline Reliability Performance Award” from Bombardier on April, 2012
            “African Airline of the Year 2011/2012 Awards” on February, 2012
            “Awarded As Airline of The Year for 2010” on November, 2011
            “Airline Reliability Performance Award” from Bombardier in 2011.
            “Deal of the Year 2010 Award” awarded by Air Finance Journal in 2011.
            “The African Cargo Airline of the Year Award” by STAT times in 2011.
            “The NEPAD Transport Infrastructure Excellence Awards 2009” by NEPAD on November, 2009
            “Airlines of the year 2009” Award, organized by the London-based African Business Journal on July, 2009

            Take that to the bank.

          • Abinet

            Hey Fatima
            Atam jirtu?
            Just to add to your impressive list the arrival of the tenth Dreamliner.
            “Flying great length to please”
            “Bringing Africa together ”

          • haileTG

            Helloo Abi… yantem eji yberta …(haha..sorry for my improvising, just not knowing the greeting)

            “Bringing Africa together…i.e just about together may I add?? (Not according to the EAL -but the view holders in here rather)

            Anyhow, let me summarize few points from your entries so far:

            1 – There is something fundamentally wrong on how you and Fetima frame the Ethio-Eritrea r/ship. There are two specific ways that I can argue for normalization with Ethiiopia with my fellow Eritreans and it would totally disinterest them and they would fall asleep before I finish:

            a) Let’s normalize with Ethiopia so that we would benefit huge economic advantages:

            This argument would fail flat like a cheap tire to make any persuasive argument. It is not that Ethiopia lacks resource or Ethiopia has no opportunity to offer, it does. But you simply don’t understand Eritreans. Money isn’t their problem and they are rather resourceful and don’t feel envy in that regard. They would just laugh off my proposal and tell me we don’t lack but stability.

            b) Let’s normalize with Ethiopia to make our independence viable.

            This argument is non existent in Eritrean circles. Most know that PFDJ system is the only reason the independence can be lost, else Eritrea has proven assets to guarantee prosperous existence.

            The only viable arguments Eritreans would stop to hear and be persuaded by are the arguments of peace, stability and doing away with the nastiness and meanness we see daily from both sides. You said Eyob says “we don’t want to know you”. Well, that isn’t what he said when he debated saay on YG and the influx of refugees. Again, you said TK said that, no in fact TK has NEVER ever been noted (EVER) saying that or bragging about material assets (yeah those feeble things that rust, get broken, twisted and disposed off). His arguments are the moral and political essences of the matter and he answers only if directly asked about service or product. I personally never read him opening a thread or replying with a long list of stockroom account books.

            When you go down the material route, you gain the superficial at the expense of the real. Eritreans are very aware of their material endowments and it would be used at the right time for the right cause. However, when you make that [material] as the center of your self importance, you are only selling yourself short, as you are better than that (unsolicited advice day,right?). You forget the interests of others when you become material centered (as Fetima did when she said she was prepared to lose Ethiopians judged on Eritrean side of the EEBC demarcation (by implication of her position) and close off here northern countrymen from normal crossborder interactions when advocating for a border wall, to simply protect the possibility of Eritreans benefiting some unspecified advantage).

            The strange thing here is that it is not those views, as yours and Fetima’s, are simply unrealistic only, but underestimate the Ethiopian leadership so much to the point that you equate normalization with Eritrea would put Ethiopia at a disadvantage! So, are you saying Ethiopian leadership would be incapable of working out deals that are legal and puts their country’s interest when dealing with Eritrea? Does Fetima has so much low expectation of the “TPLF with considerable power” that they will fall pray to advanced Eritrean business trickster? It is really unthinkable how men and women in this age of material abundance base their human faith on an Aluminum made flying object than God made brother. It sometimes appears that some forget humanity is above and beyond useless and recycled metal components.

            As they say, beds don’t buy sleep, pills don’t buy health, glasses don’t buy full sight…and hence material can’t be expected to do what it is not supposed to do. Aircraft flights move people, but the people have to do the communication in order to make those movements meaningful. Your “Bringing Africa Together” somewhat seemed to explain the job of the aircraft alone.

            Regards

          • Abinet

            Haile TG
            I was not trying to frame the R/P between the two countries. I was trying to show the age factor and it’s importance in the debate . I didn’t say Eyob or TK don’t want to know you . Not at all . It is the young people that don’t care about eritrea or its relationship with ethiopia. I mentioned Fatima as an example .
            “Bringing African Together ” is an old EAL slogan.

          • haileTG

            hey Abi,

            How come there are more young Ethiopian Artists (music) promoting Ethio/Eritrea friendship?

            Again,

            – young people are adventurous … don’t seek walls (more like 1940s)

            – young people are daring…. not risk averse

            – young people are open… not closed off

            – young people are curious … not judgmental

            The kind of positions you seem to be attaching to the young seem to be old and archaic traits. But I am convinced that the future is bright for both peoples, regardless of which part of their respective countries they happen to hail from. My personal knowledge of Ethiopians in my circle tells me the views you hold don’t have real influence. Actually, my concern is more with Eritreans and that is where I usually focus to try to change views. On the whole Ethiopians are BY FAR ahead of us in the people to people and I fault us Eritreans for not matching it.

            Regards

          • abrhama

            Spot on Haile TG!!
            The young people here in Eth including me do not care about the ports but the people to people relationship is what worries us. I want it to happen in the near future. We are too careless to focus on the contents when some of your country men enjoy like ‘ruba Belesa Melieu resa’ type of music in our land but join them for the sake of “wene”. Wene possibly be easily triggered if you sense something yours or familiar with. That is what Eritrea mean to me. Its mine or a very familiar entity around. We care about Eritrea like ours but with different spirit than that of two or three decades ago.

            Thanks Hiale TG

          • Abinet

            Haile TG
            The young ones don’t cry for spilled milk . They don’t miss something they did not know .
            Haile, ” yemayawqut ager aynafqm” fits them . They enjoy the relative peace and growth without Eritrea. They tell you why complicate things? Most ask why derg spent all the resources and human life to keep Eritrea? It would have been cheaper to let it go . Haile, you have a very high hope and I really appreciate it . However, I don’t want you to be disappointed.
            Listen to Fatima . There are millions of them behind her.
            Read also Abebe’s reply to Ato Amanuel . Even Feven is saying the same thing except brutally blunt.
            Thanks

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Dear Haile,

            “The strange thing here is that it is not those views, as yours and Fetima’s, are simply unrealistic only, but underestimate the Ethiopian leadership so much to the point that you equate normalization with Eritrea would put Ethiopia at a disadvantage! So, are you saying Ethiopian leadership would be incapable of working out deals that are legal and puts their country’s interest when dealing with Eritrea? Does Fetima has so much low expectation of the “TPLF with considerable power” that they will fall pray to advanced Eritrean business trickster? It is really unthinkable how men and women in this age of material abundance base their human faith on an Aluminum made flying object than God made brother.”

            What on earth are you talking about? If this isn’t double dealing, what is then? Are we really stooping so low that we are using “reverse” psychology to defend our position and making up things? And for the love of everything that’s good, please don’t put words in peoples mouth, it is a myside bias, which would have you thrown out in professional debates. You really are undermining my reading comprehension and critical thinking skills here.

            Again, I dare you to provide evidence from where you extracted the above asinine assumption of my views of my Government?? You cannot. The reason being that I have never discussed my Government with you or anyone on here. And please show some dignity and address the Ethiopian Government as such rather than TPLF. This is the sort of thing I called out from the beginning. Until this carcinogenic doctrine and belittling of Ethiopia and her people are removed, even from the “peace advocating” people like you, things will not get better. Believe it or not, we see right through it.

            From the first time I commented on here (HOA regional thread), I’ve stood by the same principle, which is: I am for peace and resolution with Eritrea but I don’t support economic partnership right now. This is my right as an Ethiopian to express. Is it not? It’s a fact that you cannot deny that Ethiopia has been able focus on herself since 1991 instead of fighting endless war for decades until again in 1998. I want us to continue the focus on ourselves and when the time comes, we will cross the “partnership” bridge when we get there, in our terms not because it is convenient for Eritrea at the moment. This is a firm belief that I stand by, I may feel differently in the future. And you likewise can continue to advocate your opportunistic treachery in the name of brotherhood and peace.

            Additionally, I appreciate your need to lookout for us, I do, really 🙂 but please stop telling us what is best for Ethiopia/Ethiopian, let US worry about that. Is this too much to ask? Wouldn’t you find it offensive if I try to tell you how to run your nation? That’d be absurd.

            So far as generational gaps are concerned, it’s true that people like me are the future of Ethiopia whether you agree or not. We are young, ambitious, educated, with no strings attached or nostalgia. We are more than capable and preparing/prepared to do what’s best for our country, we have a way to go but we are taking baby steps.

            Lastly, it isn’t my government that I don’t trust, rather Eritrea/Eritreans.

          • haileTG

            Dear Fetima,

            “Again, I dare you to provide evidence from where you extracted the above asinine assumption of my views of my Government?? You cannot.”

            Could you verify if the following statement came from you:

            Truth is you and I both know very well that the people of Tigrai have a big influence in current Ethiopian politics and you want economic partnership with Ethiopia so this “I care about our bordering Tigrai people” is nothing but a lackluster checker move.

            As far as I Know the political influence of the Tigray people in EPRDF, therefore government of Ethiopia, is delivered through TPLF.

            So, when you say “the people of Tigrai have a big influence in current Ethiopian politics”, that is understood to mean “”TPLF with considerable power”

            Fetima, you are entitled to think of yourself as you please. You are entitled to favor a political opinion as you please. You are entitled to view your world as you please. What you are not entitled to do is determine the right of others to do such in those very aspects of personal choices.

            In our previous debate you termed “Economic Partnership with Ethiopia” in its crud sense by using debasng language “Ethiopia legarachin…” That says more about your low expectation of the Ethiopian government than anything else. Now, you seem insist you are an ardent believer of the notion that both peoples shouldn’t have anything to do with each other (at this time). What is left is to start to live by it for you, starting at the individual.

            Regards

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Dearest Haile,

            You were able to extract my view points of my government based on that? And you also call that me discussing my views of my government with you? Absolutely preposterous! Here is the thing, you are also entitled to a lot but not to modify things to suit your preferential agenda.

            No, I still hope for a better relationship in the future and realistically speaking I think that will be achieved in the next few generations.

            I feel like a mad dog chasing my own tail with this on going argument :).

            Best regards

          • haileTG

            Dear Fetima,

            If I misunderstood you completely, that is within reason and completely within the hazard of debates (it takes long time to understand someone fully than the few exchanges we had). Again, even if you were to say “OK Haile all like you say and 100% with you” to me I am aware the huge barriers that are still to be surmounted and your position might drive its credibility from that angle. My wish or yours are tiny isolated droplets on a poisoned ocean. I am under no illusion of the magnitude of the challenge. I know we had interesting (at times heated exchanges), but would like to thank you for your respectful and civil dialog. No intent to offend you from my side either, it is just the brutishness of the politics we are dealing with. I see my self as a lifelong learner and hence, well aware of my failings too. In the end, let both people achieve the peace and development they so deservedly aspire for.

            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Fatima,

            Indeed you are from the young generation and you are the future of Ethiopia (your age shows clearly that). The topic of normalization and cooperation we are talking is not right now which is unrealistic. The issue we are talking about is when the current regime in Eritrea is removed from power. In the meantime we are creating normalization between people to people to reduce the mistrust. The real normalization are taken by the governments of both sides when the barriers are removed and the objective reality is ready for that.

            What I have noticed from your argument is that, you assume we are demanding normalization under the current regime of Eritrea. Myself or Haile or others on the side of justice seekers we are doing is, to clear the stumbling blocks for future normalization and cooperation after the demise of the current regime in Asmara. What is bad in talking and creating some good understanding between our people for any eventuality that serve for both people. So don’t be too resistant for a goodwill that will entertain the friendship (if the brotherhood irritates you) for your generation and the generation that follows you. People to people diplomacy is more healthier than government to government. And of course people to people diplomacy will serve as a precursor to a government to government diplomacy. I think we are doing well though it takes time to be realistic. Therefore let us engage optimistically for healing wounds and bridging the hopes of both people for peace and prosperity.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat,

            You are right, there is nothing wrong with trying to build a people to people relationships. However, to me there is a big difference between peace advocating and opportunistic, although I can learn to appreciate the latter when executed cleverly. The main reason I may have come across as resistant in my exchange with Haile TG is because I felt that it was opportunistic rather than a sincere attempt at people to people relationship mending, this is my perception and may not be his intensions. Now, how did I came to such assertion? Well, because during a previous exchange I expressed my geographical closeness to Kenya, which he attempted to use against me in order imply that “I don’t care about my fellow Ethiopians residing in Tigrai region”. This was during an exchange about the HOA region. I specifically asked as to what it is that Eritrea has to offer to Ethiopia that we can’t obtain from Djibouti, Kenya, Somaliland, and/or Sudan to which he replied with a beach access amongst other things. I replied by stating the distance for us down South but that’d be nice for those in the North, who are closer if they choose to. I further added that I can go to Kenya if I desire a beach also. Somehow this caused him to ask (I’m paraphrasing here) “Don’t you care about the boarder people”? Then he closed his next replay to me with a PS, something along the line of, “Don’t you care about the people who fought to bring you freedom.” I was taken aback at first because I was surprised but I know where that was heading fast. Ever since then, I pretty much see right through the continued underline implications as a concern neighbor looking out for for the best interest of a certain geography of Ethiopia. The double dealing was so obvious that even a blind person could see the underhanded approach to the argument. Attempting to pit one brother against another in order to gain an upper hand isn’t a new concept in the helm of ehnocentrist, double edged Horn of African propaganda. I’m hardly phased.

            Moving on, sure, ideally changing the attitudes and mending fences are admirable. However, what about the big pink elephant(s) in the room??? How can one build a relationship without trust? How do two groups of people who have two different versions of history learn to respect each other without underline conflict, which will blow over eventually? How can two groups of people who regard the others “wicked enemies” as great heroes learn to respect the people and their history? These are my question and I don’t believe the status quo of lets pretend like the past is the past and try to move forward with a clean slate or we can learn to agree to disagree will do. I for one don’t believe putting a band aid on a shot gun wound can heal it.

            Furthermore, I often read statement such us “need a change of attitude from both people” or “Ethiopians do it too”, etc etc. My question to this is: if we are so bigoted and degrading to Eritreans, why do many Eritreans live and work comfortably without noses and burring crosses on their lawn in Ethiopia? How is it that many many Eritreans are in and out of Ethiopia as they please? When is the last time you heard an Eritrean being beaten for being an Eritrean in Ethiopia? I live in Ethiopia 6 month out of the year and I deal with Eritreans in my line of work sometimes, never treated them any differently than I’d any other person. The only difference is that I simply don’t trust them. I am well aware of the fact if this same Eritrean was dealing with me in diaspora instead of Ethiopian shores, the seeming cordial facade would be anything but. Eritrea for my generation is bad news with lots of red flags. Our youth and teen age years have been tented by the bloodshed of the border war and bloody history. How can my generation of Ethiopians learn to respect people who rejoice in the bloodshed of our people?? Is this sentiment shared with Ethiopians. Does Ethiopia celebrate and boost the killing of innocent Eritreans? These are real questions I and many of my peers have. As young as I was during the border war, I distinctly remember the dark cloud and sadness looming over our days, and the sadness shared by the every day people. We knew regardless of the outcome we were going to come out wounded because there was still that Ethiopians sentiment of kinship with Eritreans. Unfortunately and Fortunately, that was the straw that broke the camel back for our end.

            Fast forward to the present and you have the likes of Haile WM and Araya calling us ebola, galla (Haile WM in reference to Emperor Menelik) and beggars. From my personal experience in the diaspora, Eritreans hate Ethiopia, which is fine with me, at least many have been upfront about it. My perception is that somehow along the way Eritrean nationalism has become synonyms with hatred for Ethiopia, especially amongst the diaspora born ones. Me personally, I’ve no hate towards any groups, I just don’t care.

            As for what is to come of the two nations in the near future, I don’t know. But I would like to say that my concern and priority is my country, no one else. I want Ethiopia to continue implementing the methods that have brought us success, which includes peaceful and cooperative relationships with Djibouti, Kenya, etc… They have stood by us in our darkest days and we are indebted by their loyalty. We have a long long way to go ourselves to worry about others. In the mean time, I don’t support any preferential treatment, actions, or partnership of my country with Eritrea in the name of shared history, culture, and whatnot. Eritrea is a sovereign nation like Somalia and South Sudan and thus be dealt with similarly. A couple of people have stated in the past that a failed Eritrea is bad news for Ethiopia. Well, we have been stuck with a failed Somalia for over two decades so what will be the difference? Besides, a newly formed Eritrea has shown to be deadly for us so I think we should take our chances of minding our business, once bitten twice shy. However, I am fairly optimistic that once Eritrea passes this hurdle, there will be other immense opportunities and partnerships ahead with other neighbors such as Sudan and Yemen, may be even with Ethiopia.

            Best Regards

          • Nitricc

            first of all there no normalzition or anything else. but the Eritreans and the Eritrean governmnet is not the one begging for normalization. the migget, Melles Zenawi died begging for normalaztion and the only and the bright Welaya is begging for normalization with Eritrea. he even declared that he has no problem to go to Asmara. so, let’s get things stright and talk as it is. it is amazing the ignorance and the regidity of some Ethiopians. no one needs you and we will flrush beyond your imagination. so, take easy because some boneless Eritreans tried to kiss your rear end, not so! Eritrea does not need you so please save it.

          • Dear Fetima,

            If I may interject at this point, I am, as an individual, one of the people from the Ethiopian side who stand for Ethio-Eritrean rapprochement and future
            co-operation (economic etc). Nevertheless, I would like to make clear my stand on this issue. Every discussion I had in the past with Ammanuel Hidrat, and others, had been on future relations between the two people after the demise of the present
            Eritrean regime. It is not only because Ethiopia should not cooperate with Asmara, but also, fortunately, the Eritrean regime does not want it. Any sort of cooperation with Asmara, as things stand today, is equivalent to resuscitating a dying
            regime, which is to nobody’s advantage. I/we have said this on many occasions, and it should be known that we are talking of cooperation with the future in mind. What the future governments of both people do is their business, but the simple people-to-people relationship dictates (at least for the majority) that peace, good neighborliness and cooperation is a must, and this is what I am trying to
            reflect as an individual.

            Thanks.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Hello Dearest Horizon,

            Thank you for a very well received interjection :).

            Of course, no one hate peace, except may be mad men. All I’m saying is that yes the people to people relationship mending sounds good and even possible amongst those in the diaspora. However, let us consider inevitable facts, and since I only know the Ethiopian factors I’ll speak on those.

            Currently, there are two solid generations of Ethiopians (excluding grand parents and adolescents) who have been impacted by the Ethio-Eritrea conflict(s) and have a say; There are the 20s & 30s eager generation and our parents sentimental, scorned generation.

            – The sentimental yet scorned generation is what I call Kimegna (ቂመኛ) generation. Their attitude towards Eritrea/Eritreans is like a scorned lover. When they talk about Eritrea, they often reflect on their unsuspecting relationships with their Eritrean neighbors, friends, business partners, teachers, etc… They say, “all those years we thought we were true brothers, all the smile in our faces while sharpening the knife behind our back, all the trust”. This isn’t because of the referendum and Eritrea/Eritreans decision to part ways, but because of the drastic change in Eritreans attitude in 1991 towards the very people they lived amongst and raised their kids with. They feel blindsided and betrayed. Throughout the 90s this generations relationship with Eritrea/Eritreans got worse and worse, with the final nail to the coffin in the late 90s. Now, in my opinion, this sentimental generation current attitude towards Eritreans is የወጋ ቢረሳ የተወጋ አይረሳም። They are not going to go out of their way to mistreat Eritreans in Ethiopia, surely not, but the likelihood of regaining the respect, friendship and trust from this group is almost impossible. Often times because Eritreans unlike Somalis or South Sudanese can blend in easy in many parts of Ethiopia, most don’t even know who is Eritrean and who isn’t, unless the issue is brought up.

            – The eager generation (20s – 30s) is what I call the hustler generation. This generation has been extremely busy with the rampant development in the country within the last decade. As the inevitable globalization knocks down walls in Ethiopia, this group is learning about competitiveness and the new age ideology of “survival of the fittest”. Too much is happening too fast and we are trying to find our rightful place in the developmental, educational, entrepreneurial inward positions in the emerging market. Things like Eritrea is an afterthought because we are busy with other foreigners businessmen/women such as the Chinese, Japanese, American, etc who are consistently in Ethiopia. The attitude of this generation towards Eritrea is that of መንገዱን ጨርቅ ያርግላቸው። and የማያቁት አገር አይናፍቅም።, which we inside Ethiopia thought is a shared sentiment by our Eritrean counterparts until recently. Another way the two generations differ is that the older generation lived thru the fear of being landlocked without Eritrea, while the younger generation is consumed with the trade infrastructure development and establishing partnerships, business contacts with individuals from Djibouti, Somaliland, and Kenya. The is the new norm, not the alternative. Nevertheless, some of us of this generation end up in the diaspora for the first time and encounter the unpleasant Eritrean attitude our fathers generation speaks of. I can attest to this from my experience. My friends and I were practically forced out of a Bay Area Eritrean restaurant back in 2005 for our “Ethiopian” attires, which mostly consisted of Ethiopian colors (we were coming from an Ethiopian New Year celebration). The patrons as well as the owners were unkind for a lack of a better word. In my opinion, this generation will do whatever is necessary to avoid “Eritrea” and when the Eritrean matters are brought up, more often than not it’s in the context of war and conflict, unfortunately.

            So I’m basing my views on the above assessment. This is the reality on the ground in Ethiopia, which may not coincide with the Ethiopian diaspora. As a result, I tend to ask a lot of question of those who advocate for the people to people relationship. Sure, this may be easier to do in diaspora, but what about those at home?

          • Dear Fetima.

            If we decide to categorize Ethio-Eritrean history in to pre- and post-independence (pre- and post-Gedli) periods, and try to enumerate sins and crimes committed to each other (Ethiopians and Eritreans), we will not get anywhere, for the foolishness of both people was beyond imagination. Everybody has his side of the story. Be sure, it is not a happy story, which way you look at it.

            “የወጋ ቢረሳ የተወጋ አይረሳም፣” from the Ethiopian point of view, holds true only for Eritrean elites who studied in Ethiopian universities, prospered out of what poor old Ethiopia could provide, were showered with love etc and yet chose to hate and wound the very people who loved them, and the arrogant Eritrean fighter, who believed that he was the new master in Ethiopia (Abinet mentioned in his
            previous comment). The ordinary Eritrean (the one that was mislead and forced to be the sacrificial lamb at the altar of Eritrean elites) was himself a
            victim that paid the price of arrogance, shortsightedness and foolishness of those who wanted to build their castle in the sky, those who believed that they are an exceptional and an extraordinary breed of men and women. Therefore, dear Fetima, please, separate the two.

            Ethiopians in their 20s and 30s, the ones you call the “hustler generation” who are trying to reap from the economic bonanza, are not uniform in their dreams and actions. There are many who went through Ethiopian universities or came back to Ethiopia from abroad to participate in the developmental endeavor of the country and
            gain through their lawful entrepreneurship and hard work. At the same time, many others have a mafia mentality of robbing those innocent Ethiopians who try to improve their lives. Fortunately, some have ended up in prison, while
            unfortunately, some have run away with a lot of money, and they are being chased all over the world.

            “Survival of the fittest” (Social Darwinism, when applied to society), where the bigger fish would eat the smaller and the weaker part of the society, is not to be adapted, because this “hustler generation” also contain some full time swindlers,
            which are ready to walk on dead bodies to have their economic and political dreams fulfilled. Therefore, a blanket congratulation to the young generation may not be right, and a blanket condemnation of the older generation may not be right too. Do not underestimate the knowledge and experience of the older generation. If Eritrean elites had heeded their fathers’ and ancestors’ advices, Eritrea would not have been where she is today. YES, to the educated, decent and hardworking young generation of Ethiopians, who are there to improve their country, but a big NO, to those who act in an opportunistic way.

            Fetima, you seem to have the notion that Ethiopian development and entrepreneurship is mainly
            in the hands of the young generation, whom you say are aggressive, educated, not sentimental etc. Change did not come to Ethiopia by those who are in their 20s and 30s, the economic policies are not made by this group of people, and political
            decisions are not taken by them either. Therefore, you must leave some space for the poor old generation of Ethiopians too, who continue to play a major role in Ethiopian affairs. If they are nostalgic of the port, it is because they are looking in to the future and the sustained development of Ethiopia. If they look for friendship with Eritrea, it is because, they know the importance of peace and friendship. Therefore, we are aspiring that future Ethiopia will be in the hands of the right people.

            It is easier to say that the new generation of Ethiopians are indifferent to Eritrea and
            Eritreans, because they do not have them at the top of their priority. Nevertheless, it does not mean they do not want them at all. In addition, a
            country that does not want Eritreans cannot have an open-border policy for Eritrean refugees, allow them to live freely anywhere in its territory and help them attend higher education in their hundreds. This means even the Ethiopian government has
            not lost hope on Eritrea (the future Eritrea)

            You say you stand for peace. Nevertheless, how can you have peace with a country and people
            that are not even in the remotest compartment of your mind? How can we send back to their families tens of thousands of soldiers at the border and how can we avoid arms race that is sucking our economy, unless we engage with Eritreans,
            of course in a peaceful manner?

            Dear Fetima, the ultra-ignorant (I would not call him ultra-nationalist) Eritrean restaurant owner who did not allow you to enter his restaurant because you are Ethiopians does not represent the majority of Eritreans, which like most Ethiopians are decent people. My friend, these are the same people who destroyed Eritrea. How can you
            expect love and respect from them? If you want to see a loving and respecting Eritrean and Ethiopian, go to the ordinary people, and not to an under-educated fool, who believes that you should not wear an Ethiopian dress in his restaurant, as
            if you have entered his Eritrea with a grenade launcher. No, he does not represent the 5m Eritreans in any way imaginable, and he is not the measuring stick of all Eritreans.

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Horizon,
            Good points. I agree on the over all picture you provide while addressing issues raised by Fetima but the issue is more deeper than what you have tried depicting on here. The matter is in those who are at the driving seat of Eritrea today and the hopefuls in the waiting, warming up for a possible seizure of power in the future have conveniently made a seemingly irreversible rewriting of history which totally countervails anything including the endearing values extracted from the ancient historical and blood ties, our great grand fathers could have easily taken those for granted. Eritrea mills out indiscriminate hatred to the values for which Ethiopia and Ethiopians stood. I know this politics of hatred has no basis on the common people of Eritrea but what leverage do they have to affect the course of history of their country?It’s fine that we don’t have a common thread like some of our neighbors and our relationship would be dictated by mutual benefits of the day. But with Eritrea it’s a lot different. Relationship hardly survives, thrives and make an impact in a patch of falsehood. Ethiopians wouldn’t dare to shortchange their history for a convenient self-fulfilling identity re-making hangups of the elites north of Mereb. Relationships can hardly flourish in an environment where our most revered values are being assaulted by the party that’s supposed to be a partner for peace. We understand their desire to be a nation. We understand their desire to come up with a nation with a defined set of values that bring all people to a common platform expressed in a collective aura of nationalism and/or patriotism. But what would you do when these values are based on falsehood and in direct opposition of what Ethiopia of today stands for?What would you do when your revered primordial past is blemished for just want of fitting in a new found history that raises villains to heroes and reduce heroes to villains? I would like to know with a sort of example if there are countries which live in peace as we speak when their primordial past is intentionally remade not for the sake of learned facts of afterthoughts as such but for their value in shaping the current political expediency.

          • Tzigereda

            Selam T.Kifle,
            Can you please explain what you mean by ” But what would you do when these values are based on falsehood and in direct opposition of what Ethiopia of today stands for?..”
            Thank you.

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Tzigereda,

            What I meant by that statement is that Eritrea dismantled the past common history that shared with Ethiopia only to replace it with a sort of invented history.

          • Eyob Medhane

            T. Kifle,

            But invented history can not sustain itself. It is house of cards, as it is not true and natural, as a nature of history, events and FACTS are always tend to be. Therefore, I doubt that after certain amount of time inventing history and passing the invented history as facts will bear no fruit…My fear is that by the time Eritreans (particularly Kebessa Eritreans, who are the most victims of much this invented history) realize that what they know about their history is actually concocted and invented, it will be too late….That is my fear….

          • haileTG

            Selamat TK,

            The problem, as it appears to me, is that what context would drive such line of argument. For example, Eglish history is false to a Scots man and vice versa, the same is true of Us history to the native peoples and so forth. What an Ethiopian would value as valid history only tells his side’s story and is false and invented to an Eritrean and what an Eritrean believes is false and invented to the Ethiopian. Such had been responsible to the greatest portion of our peoples tragedies. To this day, it is hard to find an Ethiopian who would credit Eritrean history and equally unthinkable to find an Eritrean who would validate any of the history as presented in Ethiopian litratures. Now, as ever, both people would fully engage in bloodshed from now to 1000 years should one try to over step the mark. So, what would would the context be for each side to make a serve serving assessment of what they believe to be their history.

            My whole goal in the Ethio-Eritrea debate is really focused on donestic Eritrean situation. I hope to help lower the threat level and understandable apprehension Eritreans feel from Ethiopia. Does questioning their history alley that fear? Does telling them their heros are villians help to alley that fear? Ethiopian history book would probably be the only book to be left unsold in any busy Eritrean book shop. Eritreans simply wouldn’t buy it. Eritrean history book would fare the same in Ethiopian bookshop too. In 1960 Eritreans drew the line and their sword daring Ethiopia to try to impose what they believed was a false history. That sword was placed back into its place in 1993 with over 98% Yes to independence.

            Our question now is not to the business men writing from Merkato about some unfair economic relations, but to the political class in terms of the long term normalization and mutually respectful state to state relationship. Each others history is out of debate, deliberating about “future leaders” is a dangerouse gambit, as it constitutes a flagrant interference in Eritrea’s internal affairs.

            So, my question is that: in my case, I hope to lower the sense of threat Eritreans feel coming from Ethiopia, hence allow them to effect change single mindedly. What is your context?

            Regards

          • T. Kifle

            Dear haile TG,

            How I wish I could discuss this matter with you in person. Up until that opportune moment, let me clear few things and leave it for time and an other fateful history,
            1. When I say history, I am talking about the connection to the origins of people of high land Eritrea as they are the major component of the Eritrean body politic
            2. I would assume that you understand my take on the overall struggle of Eritreans for self-determination
            3. As to me, the historical and political undercurrents that gave way to independent Eritrea fully rests on the shoulders of misguided Ethiopian kings first for creating it and second for losing it for wanting more of it.
            4. Given those situations Eritrea ghedli pioneers had a choice: Building Eritreanism that emanates from the colonial history, unjustified abrogation of the federal arrangement and the perennial atrocities being committed by HS and Dergue over the years. There was no need to go as far as cutting all the threads that connect significant part of Eritrea to the south side. They had an option: they could have ignored that story though not the best option. But deleting and replacing it with a new myth of narratives for sure will backfire. You may kindly check this if it doesn’t have any connection with the “mistrust” many of you use to pose it quite often in this Awate forum.
            5. I very much hope that you didn’t mean the common ancestral history we think we claim together is true for us and false for you.
            6. I don’t pretend that even we Ethiopians reached consensus on our troubled past. We are far from that. Some of us canonize the kings as flawless gods and swallow whatever “noble” we are told they did during their reigns. Some of us also have a strong aversion even at the very hearing of their names. But more or less we agree and value for what they have done in keeping the country somehow out of the colonial reach and handed us something the entire black race is proud off.
            7. The utilitarian argument is not mine if your allusion of Merkato is having something to do with that . I never doubted Eritrea is capable of sustaining itself in all economic fronts.
            8. Finally, when I discuss issues here it’s not intended to interfere in the internal matters of Eritrea. My discussion have always been related in one way or another to and involve the concern of both countries. And what I am saying? this part of narrative is being used as a policy tool and contributed to the situation we are in today.

            Regards

          • haileTG

            Dear TK,

            Very true and well understood. The historical and blood ties between the people of highland Eritrea and specifically Tigray of Ethiopia can only be doubted for dubious political calculations. And I wouldn’t put a single question mark, it far too close, and to the chargin of the political gurus:-) let me add it actually settles into inseparable blood kinship. I was refering to the history that are told by different sections (sometimes to justify monarchs, sometimes ethnic domination….that we both securely agree on). I think the cardinal truth as regards our common ancestery (Kebessa and most of Tgray) can’t be re-written.

            The markato thing is not to you dear TK, you have class not offend basic sensibilities like that, and never heard you bring things as money, crudly into discussion. I salute that gentlman disposition in you.

            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear T. Kifle,

            You couldn’t be more clear, precise, and factual for sensible human being. Part-3 captures the making of Eritrea (Minelik and Haileselassie) in short without going to detail. Part-4 shows your clear stand to the self-determination of Eritrean people based on Part-3. Finally you summed up by the statement “There was no need to go as far as cutting all the threads that connect significant part of Eritrea to the south side.” I have no illusion that the socio-cultural threads and the mutual economic relationship will survive and continue for generations. Well said I couldn’t agree more Mr. Kifle.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam T. Kifle,
            .
            It is always a pleasure to read your incisive and direct comments on this forum.
            If I was not convinced that PMMZ is deceased, I would have sworn that he was ghost writing for you.
            .
            In any case, Amanuel Hidret, (the man who spent half his life helping to create the current conditions, appears to want to reverse most of the results of his doings in the last half of his life, that is at least something) picked out a point from your above comment to highlight his agreement with you. (item #3)
            .
            I am also interested on that point though for different reasons, for you to share your views. I attach a high premium to your interpretations of these types of historical figures.
            I hope you include King Yohannes’s era as well and their contributions to today’s Ethiopia.
            The reason I am asking is because I suspect that my formed beliefs might be a little kinder to them than yours. I can only imagine how Yohannes was beseeched on all sides, Menelik is dealing with a catastrophic famine of that time (kefu ken) while facing a mortal enemy as well as attempting to consolidate his authority while Haile Selassie was dragging his people into the 20th century against their will. That is my perspective. Others have theirs. However, I am willing to listen and learn.
            .
            I am also still a believer in our recent Ethiopia/Eritrea history, the main reason from the start is the insecurity the lowlanders of Eritrea felt that was fully exploited by the enemies of Ethiopia. They used all the tools at their disposal to destroy and or weaken Ethiopia and they partially succeeded.
            Yes, mistakes were made on the side of the leadership of Ethiopia but let us not minimize the maximum and maximize the minimum.
            With respect,
            K.H

          • Nitricc

            T-K
            If you ask me all history are invented and all values are created and agreed upon.
            Sure there are down right lie just like your toothless 3000 years history bull-crap. I know you are going to say, history are made, but you can’t made what is not invented, can you? I won’t rule it out in the University of Dedebit though -:

          • destaa

            TK as an Ethiopian, I am surprised by the following sentences. “What would you do when your revered primordial past is blemished for just want of fitting in a new found history that raises villains to heroes and reduce heroes to villains? I would like to know with a sort of example if there are countries which live in peace as we speak when their primordial past is intentionally remade not for the sake of learned facts of afterthoughts as such but for their value in shaping the current political expediency(Which I believe would backfire in not long a time).” Is this not what TPLF is currently doing on past Ethiopian kings *particularly Menilik and Hailesellasie? At least Ethiopia and Eritrea are different countries. What about creating conflict between two dominant ethnic groups in Ethiopia? What was done in March one (Adwa victory day) in last year in Ethiopia and in ethiopian embassies outside the country? It was a program celebrating TPLF. What can kill our heroes more than this? Or you are concerned only when Alula (which is the name of my close relative to remember the great general) is attacked? for me no one is more enemy to Former Ethiopian heroes (particularly to Amharas than TPLF) and unfortunately it is our politics. Derg was there also saying imperialists did this and that to attack Hailesellasie and cover its dictatorship.
            Coming to Menilik, I know you will say it is Oromos who asked the annole monument. Well I believe in justice for peace and I have no problem with that. But what about Yohannes who attacked Muslims(mind you I am Ethiopianist and admirer of emperors but we are talking about justice.)
            Saying that I am still happy that TPLF removed derg dictatorship and feel happy with the development we are witnessing. Credit to those who sacrificed their life to give me this. The ethnic hate in Ethiopia, though, is more worrying than ever.
            Thanks

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Desta,

            Though I am wondering why you summoned TPLF in this discussion I am eager to hear from you, before I respond to the specifics you mentioned, what inaccurate analysis does TPLF made on ther kings so far.

          • Dear T. Kifle.

            Time is the judge. Everybody will reap what he or she has sown, prosperity or perpetual misery. I am not worried about Ethiopia, because she seems to have taken the right path towards the future. On the contrary, up to now, Eritrean rulers and
            elites have invested on war, antagonism and animosity. DIA and the PFDJ have deprived the country and its people the chance for peace, freedom and development.

            As the gap between Ethiopia and Eritrea increases with time, what would you think would happen? The regime in Asmara is already burnt out, and has become impotent and change becomes unavoidable. Because Eritrea has already seen the worst, by default change should be for the better. This would be possible only through a completely different policy towards Ethiopia and the whole of HoA. Animosity has taken Eritrea nowhere, and in the future, a hostile Eritrea will not stand
            a better chance. If the hopefuls who want to rule Eritrea of tomorrow follow the same path trodden by the PFDJ, they will gather more failures and
            disappointments for the Eritrean people.

            DIA, the PFDJ have already become alien and a liability to Eritrean society. Only the cheerleaders
            have remained to boost their moral bankruptcy. The common people in Eritrea could be powerless for the time being, but with the right leadership, they could become a power to reckon with. Ten years ago a handful of Eritreans would dare come
            out and expose the regime. Look at what Eritreans are saying today in broad daylight about the regime. I hope you have read HaileTG’s response to Peace the other day, comparing Ethiopia and Eritrea. That was a strong response from a
            person who could be one of the people who could lead future Eritrea towards peace, good neighborliness, cooperation and development in the future. What I want to say is that, all Eritreans are no more made up of the same mold. Already there is qualitative change in some and I hope that this change will affect many more.

            Eritreans should reexamine their history, adjust their itinerary and reevaluate their ancestral
            values, if they want to regain what they rightfully deserve, their dignity. Everything went wrong when Eritreans decided to measure their Eretreanism with how far they have travelled from their Habesha roots. That is why tomorrow’s Eritrea should unchain herself from the alien bondage, if she wants to fit in the region and the world,

            Dear T, Kifle, whatever was remade; history, culture, values etc, served its purpose at
            a certain time and for a certain purpose. It is defunct now. There are many glaring proofs for that. That is why Eritreans have the obligation to return to that respected values of their ancestors, which should not have been replaced by alien values in the first place.

            Finally, if we Ethiopians keep our doors closed to Eritreans, and refuse to engage them, then,
            we do not have any right to say anything. An Eritrean cannot be trusted; an Eritrean cannot change etc, I think, has become cliché that does not add value to Ethio-Eritrean rapprochement, and Ethiopians should change their stand on this.

          • Abinet

            Selam Horizon
            Fatima and other young commenters are telling us that they do not trust Eritreans anymore. I Think they have an issue here . How do you build trust among people ? With all due respect ,Horizn, you luck what ethiopians experienced after the eritrean independence. The ordinary eritrean you are talking about were so arrogant on the ordinary ethiopian. Horizon , did you know Eritreans were armed after their independence? Did you ask why? I am talking about the ordinary Eritrean. Have you ever sat down in a meeting or in a cafe or anywhere next to an ordinary eritrean knowing that he is armed?
            Horizon, the ordinary eritrean was sitting in a meeting once a week. The ordinary eritrean was involved in mass mobilization in addis.( Ato Amanuel can give us more info) .An ordinary eritrean had voted for EPRDF in the first election. you are lucky not to be there in those days .
            In 1993 referendum when an ordinary ethiopian was sad , the ordinary eritrean was celebrating by shooting their guns. I lived it . I experienced it as an ordinary ethiopian living next door to an ordinary eritrean.

          • haileTG

            Hi Abi,

            1) Your young people thing is really hard to make sense. Ethio-Eritrea relations waned off in 1997 and it has been almost 18 years since. Any young person couldn’t possibly have such vivid acoount of things that allegedly went on over two decades ago, that is called an old guy, from the derg.

            2) I can’t corroborate what you said about Eritreans in Ethiopia at that time, but you are lacking fairness in judging them as if they were running the country. Could it be that corrupt authorities were allowing that and you are trying to whitewash truth and service blind hate.

            3) I was one of the people who worked a lot in diaspora in thos early days. I can confirm to you that we worked incredebily hard to in organizing, supporting and so forth TPLF demonstrations. I can attest, looking back, we acted somewhat badly towards the overwhelming And Ethiopia crowed that were trying to intimediate the new EPRDF government. I was involved in organizing one large pro-EPRDF demonstration when TPLF forces finally entered the Ethiopian capital. We dealt with some Ethiopians that tried to overwhelm the pro-EPRDF demonstrators, and from that time on, all EPRDF demos were ushered without challenge in the city. Now, though, I think we were foolish and thinking of myself, I couldn’t have thought better at that time. So, I can understand there must have been tension over there too, but if you are saying the eri were armed, then that is news to me, although I have no means to rule it out.

            Regards

          • Dear Abinet,

            I have no reason to doubt the things you perceived in the behavior of ordinary Eritreans in Addis Ababa and elsewhere. Overwhelmed by the euphoria of victory and under the guidance of EPLF, they had changed and misbehaved. The result was the expulsion of these Eritreans in 1998.

            Nevertheless, should we dwell on sins of the past or move forward for the sake of peace and cooperation.

          • Abinet

            Fatima giftiko
            Rabi siyakenu. Jebadhu

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Hi Abi,

            Fayaada, ulfaadhu. Afaan oromoo beekta? 🙂

            Oh yes indeed. The sky is the limit for Ethiopian Airlines. Let me also add the $55 million (USD) expansion to Ethiopian Aviation Academy to accommodate 1000+ trainees per year and plans to expand fourfold by 2025. Very impressive!!

        • Rahwa T

          Eyoba,
          Feven is a man. 100% sure. Believe me. I am not guessing.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Rahwa T,

            What does her/his gender got to do with anything?

          • Rahwa T

            Feyima,
            Nothing at all: Accidentally, I came to know that Feven1 was a man an was not comfortable to read comments refering him as “women”.

          • Nitricc

            Well he is a fat dude why display picture better yet why faven?
            No wonder why he keep talking about homosexuality. God have mercy.

          • feven1

            rahwit,
            So rahwit, what is that misleading ‘was a man’ nonsense, I’m either a man or a woman, why don’t you just clearly say how you know me and what exactly my gender is, if it is all that important to you? wushetam!

          • Saleh Johar

            Fetima,
            Gender has nothing to do with it, but appearing what you are not is a violation.
            Check it here: http://awate.com/posting-guidelines/

            “25.3 Don’t portray a misleading identity of yourself: gender, faith, nationality. Avoid anything that is considered a dishonest and deceitful representation of your real identities.”

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Saleh Johar,

            Thank you for the clarification as to the rules.

          • feven1

            Oh dear moderaetor, you are so desperate to score a point that you are even making a false aligation…where in my comment did i ever discus about my gender apart from requesting people not to assume my gender? …you are entitled to dislike my opinion but i don’t think you need to fall to such low to discredit people…I know you are eritrean but you don’t have to be the ultra one…

          • Rodab

            Feven,
            If you don’t mind me asking, are you male or female?

      • feven1

        Hiale, T
        The “spilled milk” stuff is in response to some of your fellow citzens bellow who still see themeselves as a splilled milk Ethiopia is crying-over, though I don’t get how a country too bussy building mega dams and infrustracture can be confused for crying over Eritrea,,,some even suggested Eritrea’s Singapore dream might spare Ethiopians from traveling to Soudi, which of course I have no problem with as long as your “dream” doesn’t come at Ethiopia’s expense, but we have said allalong how you guys suffer from a destorted sense of entitlment evidenced by past war plus the way “MOST” Eritreans still behave once they scape their heavenly Eritrea to reach Ethiopia…we see even people like u who claim to oppose the regim secretly stiking their nose in Ethiopian domestic afair and spreading devisive propoganda…they tent to know nothing about what’s going on in their country but act like so and so tribe in Ethiopia in order to saw hatred between people…just like what you have just done here, by suggesting that I don’t know the people of Ethiopia you are trying to be more Ethiopian than an Ethiopian,,,,it is a typical Eritrean syndrome, they can’t even figure out how to manage 5 million populous yet they are good at blitling those who do better with 90 million…

        • Haile WM

          feven1,

          your double standard is becoming quite annoying, if you advice us eritreans of not stiking our nose in ethiopian affairs then what do you stick you nose on eritrean affairs ? you are accusing Haile TG of not knowing ethiopians but still you are here pontificating about “Most eritreans”, you accusing us of divisive propaganda but you are spreading the most divisive comments in this forum.

          BTW the spilled milk comment was mine and not Haile TG’s and that was to you personally not to “Ethiopians” in general as you trying to put it, trying to be smarter than the “others” just doesn’t make you one, nevertheless i do see some ethiopians in this forum share your venomous opinion and have the same cry of spilled milk….

          If you don’t care about Eritrea and you are not crying here like a capricious kid deprived of his toy then my question is what the heck are you doing here ? You said Ethiopia is doing great constructing dams and other beautiful things then why are you not on some ethio forum speaking whatever you speak about ?

          I wouldn’t mind of your opinion i just see your double standard, pretension of not caring on one side and general hate on the other. Your Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde type of personality need to come to some kind of agreement, either you hate or you don’t care at all.

          relax Febu1
          Cheers

          • Abinet

            Haile WM
            Feven is not talking about eritrean internal affairs at all .she is just defending her beloved country . She is saying you can wish to be whoever you want to be , but don’t use us as your ATM machine.
            Regarding hate , ethiopians are not known for it . It is rather Eritreans perfected it in the 30 years struggle .Actually ,the only thing that brings Eritreans together is their hate towards ethiopia . Just last week you told me the ex-beggars from asmara are leading my country and deciding on my life. You were showing your hate towards them .Before them it was the Amaras you targeted for so many years . “Amara meTabih” ,Amara yibelahal” . Now it is the “agames and ex-beggars”
            The other thing Feven telling you is your analogy of using eritrea as a spilled milk is wrong .Milk is very expensive .Try water.

          • Haile WM

            Abinet

            I don’t see Mr feven1 defending ethiopia neither you for that matter, feven1 and his types (including you) are here to disrupt us from our main problems, you are here to provoke, you don’t care much of Ethiopia basically you are two of the same kind, the ex Derg nostalgic types who are here to tell us “you guys were better with us” No sir ! we don’t have regrets for that matter. We better stay alone than with you and feven1 type.

            Few Eritreans enjoyed good quality of life in Addis due to their hard work and ingenuity, until your type of ethios decided to expel them and rob them of their belongings.
            Your assertion of Ethiopia being a cash machine to Eritreans, comes from your distorted vision of a rich Ethiopia that could treat Eritreans so well… Reality check my friend… you were and still are one of the poorest country of the world and fact is we Eritreans are in the same boat… nobody can be the cash machine of anybody…
            Feven1 went even further in his delusional state of mind, he is stating that the Singapore dream is only at the expense of Ethiopia.

            Last time you were speaking of DERG time Asmara and one of your foolish statements was that beggars didn’t exist in Asmara in those days. I just replayed with facts i.e. Beggars in Asmara in those times were Tigrians who were stricken by 1980′ s famine and Asmara was full of them… now the ones we gave help are the most bitter towards us, those are the same people that are now happy of the misfortune of Eritreans. (the ones that bring the lampedusa tragedy as a trophy… Abinet are you there ?? )

            Abinet You and Febu1 are here 24/7 crying about eritreans… yes the spilled milk is gone, you are not going to have it back.. ciao ciao bye bye adieu ! do you get it ?? i will try in Amharic next time in case you still didn’t get it

            Adieu
            (I hope not to interact with you next time)

          • Abinet

            I am not only saying that you were better with as , I am also saying we are doing much better without you . I am the first one to admit we are very poor . We have also a bright future . Look the investments in Ethiopia . Addis and other cities including Mekele look like a big construction site . I know jealousy is eating you inside out . How come the ex- beggars build their city without your approval? Why do the children of the ex-beggers study in universities while your children are in SAWA boot camp? You cannot take it anymore .
            BTW you are not the only one I am hearing this from . Every time I meet an eritrean ,the moment they figure out that I am not from Tigray ,they start bad mouthing .
            “Enezih agamewoch eko agerun teqoTaTerut”
            “Egnanma lezih adrsenachew kedun”

          • Haile WM

            Good for you Abi !! 🙂 I am sooooo jealous now 🙂 🙂 infact sooo jealous that i am 24/7 on Ethiopian website crying of how evil the ethios are 🙂
            my question remains the same.. what are you doing here ?? these bad mouthed eritreans you seem can’t get off. tideliyo imo yezenghiaki

            now let me try in amharic…

            ayzoh lijie enezi araboch iko rebeshuh.

            ahun itiopiya limatuan kareghech min new izih forum yemtaChberbir? yihew feres yihew meda, be limat godena galib..

            PS i hope my amharic was understandable 😀

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Abinet,

            Jealousy is good to the extent that it is neither derived from hate nor from failure. As I said frequently I am not making justice if I comment on Ethiopian matters but sometimes comments like yours force me to do so. The reason for not commenting is because of ignorance about Ethiopia in all aspects and specially at this time. Parallel to this, I do not have any feelings about how Ethiopia is progressing and I consider it like any other countries of the world. But, I am hoping to make a visit one day for I have many reasons to do so. At the same time, I am really happy to read from people like you when you tell us that Ethiopia is booming and this is my wish to every citizen of the world. I was a victim of poverty and still that trauma even can not leave me free while leaving in Europe with good things that I have, thanks to God.

            Can you give me a pardon though if I beg you to avoid the words who convey low quality message or just stupid (sorry to say like this for your emitted words) not for you actually, just for your words. Do not be like Nitricc, Hope, Araya, etc, who are just vomiting words for nothing but based on their own inferiority complex towards human being.

            I hope your eye glass is having the right degree though (just a joke for your constant messing up of quoted sentences).

            tes

          • Abinet

            Tes
            You are getting better and better . I follow your advice.
            Thank you

          • Hope

            Tes and Abi,
            Abi,
            I would have answered it the way you- Abi answered things–that :” I was there,have been there and have done that”.and therefore,that is why I am saying this and that,at least as a human being.
            “Yegoda biresa,yetegoda airesam”.aidele ye mitilut?
            Tes,
            I think you have crossed the redline and you are kindly asked to be yourself.
            You are telling us that Eris have Inferiority Complex??You are advising Abi to avoid vulgar language when on the same line of your statement are doing even worse?
            Shall I call you a Hypocrit?Would that offend you,Bro?
            Please, with all due respect,do NOT try to be more Catholic than the Pope or a better witness than the vicitim himself.
            BTW,the PFDJ you are cursing has made you to be ” rich” by providing you with an Exceptionally High Level of Education and Special Opportunity—thereby to help other poor Eritreans to be rich…..but you back-stabbed the Nation and people who made you to be who you are.–and where you are.Get some psychotherapy man!
            Let us avoid personalizing issues and impersonating people.
            You are welcome and have the right to “educate,advise,coach,counsel,to be a good example,etc–” and we welcome that but NOT your vulagr and dehumanizing rhetoric and language.
            May God enlighten you.
            Please,do NOT call me or use words like as Yidan or Kudan—any more as i do not expect such insults for Yidan.
            Finally,
            As much as you are entiltled to your opinions,others are entitiled to theirs as well and you are expected to respect them and their opinions as such.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Abinet,
            you were less negative about the future relationship of Ethiopian and Eritrean people. These days I don’t know what ensued to you to take aggressively the extreme view of hates. You are just adding more fuel to the problem of the region – a region torn down with wars and poverty. If Ethiopians and Eritreans can not overcome our difference which is relatively closer, believe me It won’t be easier with the rest countries of the region. I believe the Ethio-Eritrean relationship will change the geopolitical dynamics of the region both politically and economically. It is a matter of time things to change and come to normal relationships. I will ask you to change your attitude on the inevitable relationship of our both people and be an ally of Horizon on that effort.

            regards,

          • Abinet

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Sorry for the very late reply. Work gets in the way.
            You asked me as to what happened to me lately that I became more aggressive ? Well, I am sorry to say this, but don’t expect me to keep quite when someone like Haile WM call my people “ex -beggars ” . Although I am not from the region . I expect that from Hope and Nitric (Araya).
            The other topic was derg. Derg was brutal for everybody .however, there are positive things it did that we can not deny . For this I refer to the exchange b/n Haile TG and Hayat. He said to her what I said to Haile WM . Why is mine negative or aggressive ?
            Regarding to be like Horizon ? It is very tricky. I like and respect him. You see Ato Amanuel, he is so lucky that he didn’t see the true colors of Eritreans after your independence . I was there . Feven was there.Eyob was there.Fatima was there .TK was there .Horizon was not there . According to him , the closest he has been to ethiopia is on Google earth. He did not experience it. So if he is more trusting and conciliatory I understand him.
            You see the new generation of Feven and Fatima is totally different than that of Horizon . If you read what they are saying ,it makes sense for them and the new generation . They are saying ” we don’t know you , we don’t want to know you , stay away “. For them there is no difference between eritrea Kenya Sudan …. May be they prefer the other countries since they are more peaceful . I don’t blame them. In other words they don’t trust you any more .
            The other point you mentioned about the Ethio-Eritrea r/p changing the geopolitics of the region is funny . We did that already in 1991 .
            Regards

          • Hope

            Abi,
            Don’t meet them,rather,stay away from them.–Simple!
            Do your home work man and let them suffer or let them go to “Hell”.Why would you worry and care about thse “jealous idiots”?

          • Abinet

            Hope nefse
            Are you the judge or the prosecutor here?
            Tell me one good place where I don’t meet an eritrean.
            If you have the GUT and COURAGE work on regional cooperation and economic integration
            BTW you are untitled to your opinion.
            Yeqenyeley

          • Hope

            Ghenzebka ezi hawey me’arey.
            BTW,I do both Prosecution and Judgement but NOT at the same time though!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Abinet,

            Good to hear different language – “regional cooperation and economic integration”. Senay Me’Alti wi’elka.”

          • abrham

            Dear Hiale WM

            Thank you for your help!!! But the ex-beggars are not the most bitter toward yours, Isu and his PDFJ are. why are so proud in instigating such hatefull words in your comments? its disgusting Haile, you even paint the compassionate people south of Mereb as sadists who are happy by their brothers suffering . Yours and Fevens type of mentality are our disease that we could not cure easily. Mihret Yewrid.

          • Haile WM

            Abrham,
            either you can’t read or you just want to twist my messages. I was replaying to Feven1 and abinet and i was referring to individuals (abinet and Feven1 are some example) who are bitter and not all the people south of mereb.
            before your cure my mentality try curing your ignorance, next time read better what’s written before attacking people without understanding what’s written.
            Cheers

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Haile WM,

            The ones you claim to have helped are now helping 100,000+ Eritreans in destitute in the multiple refugee camps in their region. #irony

          • Haile WM

            thank you Mr Fetima.
            eritreans are being helped and that is nice, i believe the majority of ethiopians are kind people unlike the abinets and feven1 ones (and you??)
            BTW do you know how many ethiopians claim to be eritreans in the refugees camps in the sudan libia and Italy camps?? #double irony

            cheers

          • Hope

            -haile WM,
            –and what about in the Tigary Camps?Eye witnesses confirmed that the majority of the Refugees are, in fact, are Tigreyans for an obvious reason.

          • Hayat Adem

            Haile WM: “Beggars in Asmara in those times were Tigrians who were stricken by
            1980′ s famine and Asmara was full of them… now the ones we gave help
            are the most bitter towards us”
            How exactly was that counted as a help if they were begging in the streets? Because they were let to beg? I think some of us had been badmouthing even then for their misfortunes. You are still doing that: badmouthing a mass of people even if they are trying their best to host our fleeing youth. Even if they are offering free university scholarship for a 1000+ Eritreans. You are badmouthing these people even if they are welcoming back Ethiopia-resident Eritreans and helping these returnees retrieve their assets.

            Message: CAN YOU BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU WRITE NOT TO INSULT PEOPLE, PLEASE.

          • Haile WM

            Hayat
            thank you for your kind message, i will try in the future not to insult people, although begging is not an insult in my view, it’s temporary condition for people that find them selves in bad times. We eritreans are begging in this bad times, because of our bad leadership so nothing insulting for the ones that are begging now and those who did in the past.
            I was replying to abinet who in many ways keep insulting our people because of the tragedies we are enduring.
            The help matter is a broad aspect in that historical period of our time. Eritreans helped the tigrians in many ways, although I agree with you a lot of Eritreans were also badmouthing the tigrians but the majority of eritreans were kind people who helped with compassion. In the greater view of help, the EPLF was also helping the TPLF … (the ones that expelled eritreans for only being eritreans…)

            So hayat I would like to see you defending your Eritrean (if you are one.. you claim to be) people just as much i see you defending ethiopians when ever you feel they are abused 🙂
            Cheers.

          • Hope

            Anta Hailat hawey—-let it go as we know well each other and who is who and who is the victim.
            But thank you for hitting back in the right way.
            The AT should do better in this aspect.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Haile WM and Hope,
            My view is most, nearly all people are rational thinkers and when you respect them, they respect you back,; when you don’t, they don’t. That tells you enough that the key to break this cycle of unjustified and harmful contempt and hate is to do your part, which means stop doing it even if when reacting. When people from the other side do it on you, you can hope sensible and wise people from that same side to advise them or shame them. That is the most effective way of promoting sanity. Do you remember Gandhi’s famous quote? I’m sure you do: “an eye for an eye will only make our world blind.” Badmouthing other people never occurred to me as self-defense. In fact, you are exposing your self for another round of attack, just like what Isaias did in the 1998 war: “ናይ ወያነ ፈራዕ ፈራዕ….”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hayatom,

            This part of your thinking always will make you to be adorned/respected by your colleagues and your adversaries. That is a scoop from the store of wisdom. I salute you for that. Most Eritreans are indirect acceptors. They don’t acknowledge of receiving the message, but slowly you will see them applying and exercising it……a thing that took me too long to discover it.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Haile WM

            Dear Hayat,
            your effort is quite commendable, i don’t have that kind of patience and nor the wisdom not to react. Although my attitude from now on is that i will not interact with those kind of Ethiopians, because the risk is that they would bring me to replay by generalization to their generalizations 🙂 (lesson learned)

            My concern however is not the Ethios in this forum, My concern is about how we Eritreans are dealing with our own problems, in fact many Eritreans seem more preoccupied about future relations with ethiopia rather the fragmentation of our society and the future of the nation. We are not able to build a common view on what is best for our eritrea in this dramatic present, we are forgetting to build trust and a civil society with-in our reality. In my view it’s important resolving the internal issues we are facing rather jumping 4 or 5 steps ahead in building relations with our neighbors.

          • Hope

            Hayat ,
            I agree with you but please think deeper try to balance issues rather than mentioning few superficial issues.
            We have gone through these before specially with Haile TG.
            Eritreans are the victims of a doule edged sword of the TPLF on top of being the vicitms of their own PFDJ.
            But let us close the topic here and hope Haile WM will not raise it.But when one is unnecessarily provoked,emotions cannot be controlled as much as we would like them to be so.

          • feven1

            Haile, WM,
            The world wide web doesn’t belong to North Korea of Africa, although the “North Korea” title itself is too flattering for majority illiterate pathetically run entity like Eritrea, I mean in relation to much advanced Korean society….but I can also understand why the idea of people being free to surf through any website and express their view is a bit alien to you…but no need to get excited as i also visit web-sites that belong to other neighboring countries and the fact that I don’t have to argue with my other neighbors just means there is nothing much to argue about since non of them use my country Ethiopia as an excuse for every misery that goes on in their land..As people who lived during your independence war propaganda we can not just sit back and watch you lie for the second to the people of Eritrea…you had once told them Eritrea was kept behind by non-colonized backward ethiopians and after 23 years of independence you are still telling them Eritrea is frozen because the ice in Ras-dashen…and what not…
            PS, for those of you who are too curious about gender, please don’t assume too much cos I’m scared a photo of a transsexual might appear on my profile…

          • Haile WM

            Mr Feven1

            my question was not intended to limit your surfing ability from a website to another, besides you ability to use internet is not matched with the wisdom it’s needed to interact in the net. Your low value as a human being and your contempt for sheer humanity making comments about sufferings is quite the metrics of how empty but venomous as person you are.

            I don’t hate ethiopians don’t have any ill feeling for a human being just because he happens to be from ethiopia.

            It could be easy listing the suffering and misfortune of your country but for what purpose ?

            it simply doesnt make any sense in taking pride from suffering of others.

            in the past many bad things happened to the people of both country mainly because of people like you who were in power who simply didn’t consider the average person as human being (that includes eritreans), Eritrea and Eritreans had had to overcome it and still are fighting. it was not source of pride for us all, its was in-fact source of shame.

            the current Eritrean problem make you feel good as now you might think “hey your Gov. is brutalizing you just as we did… see there no difference”. this is a weak argument from a weak entity not admitting his past brutality. We eritreans will overcome even this as we were capable to deal with you Feven1 in the past.

            But fortunately enough you are of no more significance to Ethiopians let alone Eritreans. My concern is not you, you will always try to justify your past failures by overjoying for your perceived failures of the others.

            No sir you are out of the equation even by the standard of an ignorant illiterate person. your time is over get over it.

            P.S. Mr Feven1 what is ” I’m scared a photo of a transsexual might appear on my profile..curtsy of awate ” ?
            my I suggest you try a new name and new photo ?
            Cheers

        • haileTG

          Feven,

          Firstly, a quick note to fellow Eritreans. Feven’s role is agent provocateur, as such we need not respond in statements that paint all Ethiopians with the same brush.

          Let me repeat again, you don’t know all Ethiopians. Period. Now, who made you a spokes person for them? If you were a spokesperson, how come you are not speaking through Ethiopian national media or from position of authority? We have no clue if you are a man, woman or Equus Africanus asinus for all we care. You might even be a PFDJ agent, can’t be ruled out. In the end, you talk (has been claim by others) like a man and then choose a feminine name to attract attention as a woman while talking gibberish about homosexuality and transsexualism in this political medium. Why are you confused about your gender and views of sexuality and orientations thereof.

          I say you have no clue about Ethiopians because the Ethiopians I know and associate with in life (without even hardly been in Ethiopia save for few days) are nothing like you. If Ethiopians subscribed to your kind of idea, it wouldn’t have been possible that so many Eritreans are left with open door policy there to live and work. Your views are buried for good and once we have completed house cleaning in Eritrea, there will be legislation in both countries to go after people like you for incitement and what have you. We will show you how to zip it good and proper.

          Nobody is above the fundamental interest of both peoples to be left alone and chart their future without intimidation. There are thousands of people from both sides who are intermarried or have close social, economic and other relationships. Your kind of confused and backstreet huha wouldn’t stand for a second in day light once things are restored. Till then you can do your bare butt bravado to your heart’s delight (just watch out no testa visits your head from out of the blue)

          sleep tight ma girl

  • Hope

    T.T,
    Wih all due respect Sir or Madam,
    Are you saying that Eritrea as a Nation and Eritreans as a People,have never been the target of the Extremist Movements funded by the Saudis and alike?
    So–you are telling me that the threat we have had from the Major Terror Sponsor in the world is nothing but lie and PFDJ propaganda?
    Kudos to you!
    The simple thing you can do without being a victim of the PFDJ propaganda–is to visit the Warsay around Gash Barka/Halhal and Jengheren areas and consult the Warsays…..if you want to konw the role of the Terrorist Wehabist Groups sponsored by the same Kingdom.
    FYI:
    I have visited those areas and I have spoken with my own brother,who was a victim of the same Terrorists.
    Plus,I have seen my own Brother-in-law being a victim of the RSADO/AfarTerrosit Group at Aseb Front,sponsored by the same Terror Sponosr of the Horn Terrorism,the TPLF Gang and you,and the likes of Haile TG et al are threatening me for “Weyanizzing” the Eri Politics as if Eritrea is the major Terrorist Nation while knowing fully the facts other wise–simply coz the SEMG said so!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hope, the PFDJ used the same rational you are using when it took about two dozen teachers from Keren area and made them disappear in 1993. After the massacre was debated and condemned by many Eritreans, you are reviving the same indiscriminate accusation leveled at religious Muslim victims who were killed by the PFDJ…. it is well documented if you care to google it.

      Was your brother-in-law a person strolling the deserts or carrying a gun and chasing the Afar in their own land? Say whatever you want about the principles of RSADO but recognize they are Eritreans also and you should cry at their lives as well because the least you can do is consider it an unfortunate civil war among Eritreans. But to express sorrow over the life of one Eritrean while you call the others dead terrorists is sad.

      • Hope

        Saleh,
        Do NOT try to twist things for your convenience.
        2-3 of the Teachers you are talking about are my own friends and remote but real cousins of mine.
        I am talking about specific Terrorist Groups well funded by the Saudi’s,NOT the oppressed people who are fighting the Oppressor.
        If you accept the existence of the ISIS and Al-Nusri Movement ,why can’t you accept a similar group within Eritrea doing similar acts…..Call them Liberators or Freedom Fighters if you wish but the fact and truth are there.
        Yes,I was and am a living witness that Wahabism has created religious conflicts and animosity among/within my very own Village and among my own cousins,etc—I was there,have been there and have seen that.
        As to Seccessionist RSADO,
        Accuse or challeneg the USA Department ,which or who,declared it as a Terrosit Group and yet fully funded,supported,armed,trained,etc by the same Mercenary TPLF Gang .
        Do NOT mix the oppressed People of Afar or the oppressed People of Low Land Eritrea—aka,Gash-Barka,my own home-land with few Mercenary Terrorists.
        My own brother-in-law is NOT there or at Aseb Front to chase the Oppressed Afars but to defend Eritrea from the war-mongering TPLF Gang and its proxy war against Eritrea using the same RSADO ..
        Please define for me Terrorism and a Terrorist..and I will rest my case on this topic..
        No need to lecture me about the PFDJ being this and that now as I have had enough of it.
        As to Googling for further info,I ask you the same question to do so and refute my arguement as such based on your Google search discovery!
        We-dehanka!
        Rest assured that I will leave you alone and your website as well as of this nan-second.

        • Saleh Johar

          Dear Hope,
          1. Arguments are not simply twisted because you said so.
          2. I see no convenience in trying to challenge you. You can face the challenge or hold your peace.
          3. Those teachers you claim are your cousins were accused of belonging to a terrorist group, Jihadists, and made to disappear. I will help you with he google in time.
          4. Who are “funded by the Saudis” and who are the “oppressed”? You have to explain instead of making unsupported statements that no one will take at face value. Prove it Hope.
          5. So the presence of ISIS elsewhere proves the existence of such a group in Eritrea? Educate me on this one please. How is it related apart from the religious connection?
          6. I don’t know if the USA and Ethiopia agree on everything but don’t on what RSADO is? Think again using your own statements.
          7. I didn’t mix the oppressed people of the Lawlands Eritrea and your homeland “Gash Barka” with anything. It’s your own words, don’t try to stick them to me.
          8. You define “terrorism” and “terrorists” because you brought that, not me. One cannot mention something and ask others to define it for him. It is absurd.
          9. You explain to me the difference of the “oppressed Afar” and RSADO because you seem to know. And what are the demands of the oppressed Afar and RSADO?
          10. I mentioned google as a tool, don’t use it if you don’t want to. I didn’t say google gave a testimony, it is not a person. But testimonies by eye witnesses are there and if you use google it will make your life easier in finding them.
          11. I don’t think you know much about Wahabism or other in the Islamist politics more than the cartoonish knowledge that you get from, (sorry I have to say it) google that you hate.
          12.Don’t chase ghosts, I never lectured you on PFDJ, you know them better than I do. Why would I? But please don’t bring confusing, irrelevant points in your arguments. Stick to the points of the discussion–and that is called honesty in debating.

          • Semere Andom

            Your excellency Saleh
            Your Excellency Saleh if you have the COURAGE and stomach and the GUTs or all this why you are quite about our real border is until Kassala.??
            1. one day we will take what is ours,
            2. Ours is ours, please stop lecturing me about where our border is, my border was also taken away
            And 3, if u have the courage why not mention the Christians who are 10 times the Teachers who disappeared. I have 10-20 of them as my cousins and parents of my friends, distant cousins.
            please do not lecture me on the freedom of religion in our country as my freedom was taken away too
            I can leave you and your site alone, but Please do not twist my mind like the YGist who twist my Hanish Kabir
            10. My stand is firm. Eritrean problem by Eritrean problem and Eritrean “bitching” to Eritrean “bitching” If you say no, pleaser refuse them with facts as to honesty of debating. I have in my blood, debating and HONESTY both are my cousins, distance. Abuye Integrity, yes abuye Integrity Abi is the grand father of Debating, who is the cousin of Honesty so again, again I say please do not lecture me on these TWO
            Wedhanka
            Selametak
            Peace
            Also before I forgoteif you have the GUTS please do not pontificate as the BIBLE says and jesus says those without sin to THrow the “ebenaI” so please, PLEASE

          • Saleh Johar

            Huye Semere, my cousin. God/Allah/Egzabher/Jar/Amlakh bless you

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Sem A
            So shall we call it the copyingcatting week? Saleh Johar started the style with his “democratic regime of..” impersonating a lamenting hgdfite, I liked and copycatted it in my reply to HTG, now I see you mocking Hope. Hope will be back for revenge, don’t you think he’s out.

          • Semere Andom

            Ahlem Mammuday: long time
            Believe it or not I have a soft spot for Hope, but some times you know “mi bela” Hamed Habdella, “Jawir bina wo….” 🙂

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Hope,

          With your unpredictable line of thinking and unstable feelings, it is a flaw one to engage with you in any means. “Entatie” yibehal kemzi natka. I can see your restless backlashes you are making as your mixed political feelings are getting eroded day after day. Stay focused please.

          PFDJ politics has brought all complexities that led to political extremism in Eritrea and those who mentioned are a by-product of this politics.

          Wahabism, as you have mentioned here, up to my level of knowledge in Eritrea was not a political movement. It is a religious practice within the Islam followers with more strict way of practicing. I had some friends who were influenced by this religious practice and became strict followers. It became a victimized group just like that of Pentecostal Church. It is enough if we do not go beyond that. PFDJ accused them as they appeared challenging to his approach in religious politics.

          RSADO, is also of no different. This front progressively brought the idea of secession thinking that it is better to be alone if Eritrea is meant the same as that of Eritrea under PFDJ administration. Beyond that, the Afar people are known for their political stand to the sovereign question. It is absurd to see PFDJ supporting Ethiopian Afar people to topple Ethiopian regime (which I have personally saw their office in Assab in 2007, and the opposite Ethiopia to support Afar Eritreans to topple the PFDJ regime and hence the RSADO is born. If both regimes are supporting the Afar people to fight one to the other, why then they let them form a separate country? (This is a rational question that can be addressed). but, the reality is, the Afar people are victims and they are just search a means to be FREE like any other Eritreans. RSADO has never being a terrorist group and it will not by all measures. It is a question of victimization and once the victimizer is removed, they will have a chance to lead a normal life.

          Concerning terrorism in Eritrea and terrorist movements, any move that targets PFDJ being inside Eritrea will be labelled as such and if outside as Woyane. regarding the attacks, there are occasional attacks on PFDJ officials and the objective was not to terrorize civil societies but to halt any movement of PFDJ officials.

          One thing though I wonder about you, if Eritrea is considered one of the most peaceful country in the world and free of any terrorism attacks according to PFDJ news out late, by what measures are you telling us that there are terrorist groups in Eritrea?

          Tes

  • Hope

    Hell AT,
    Not sure about the tiltle you picked up:”Eritrea Watches The Houthi Advance In Yemen”!
    Why wouldn’t you replace the word Eritrea with : “The World”?
    Does it mean to,indirectly, point fingers at the PFDJ,and thereby to be quoted or referenced as a Source that Eritrea or the PFDJ is responsible for the easy marching of the Rebels to Sanaa and then Report it to the SEMG as an excuse to sanction Eritrea for destabilizing Yemen?
    We have seen that before somewhere,where Isak Beshir of the “Federalia Movement” reported about the Iranian Base at Aseb through the EPDP website and it was used as a Ref or as source to implicate that Iran has a base at Aseb.
    It was the same guy and through the same website, who reported that the Houthis are being trained at Embatkala or Nefasit and it went viral through the western media.
    Can you enlighten us more, ahead fo time the Clandestine role of the PFDJ in arming the three different S Sudan rebels?
    I am salivating to read the breaking news before the SEMG reports it.
    But for the sake of “Neutrality and Balancing issues” ,can you also report the role of Ethiopia in supporting the S Sudan Rebels?
    Be that or this,Yemen is being broken into pieces in front of our eyes.
    I feel bad for them but it is their choice and their problem.
    But I smell that we are going to have back our Hannish Kebir Islands,for G O O D,God willing!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hope,

      If you don’t like the title, I suggest you copy it to your PC and give it the title you wish it to have 🙂 Unfortunately, editorials are not put out for voting. Also, don’t you think it is relevant to Eritrea which lies 20 miles away from the Yemeni coast, discounting the islands that are even closer? If SMEG takes the piece as an evidence, I am sure they will do a better job at it.

      Take care dear

      • Hope

        Your Excellency,
        Thanks for your response and advice.
        Take it easy,my man,I am just inquring and throwing away my opinion,for which I appreciate you for giving mer that right,which in turn, you are entiltled to revoke it under any circumstance and time.

    • Abinet

      Hope
      You want Yemen to be broken into pieces so that you get the islands back? Is it ok if an Ethiopian wish Eritrea to be broken into pieces so that we take whoever and whatever we want?
      What happened to your regional cooperation and economic integration campaign?
      YeqoTun awerd bila yebibitwan Talech ” endayhon negeru
      You are not thinking my friend .

      • feven1

        Abnet,

        By challenging ‘hope’s’ way of thinking you may be challenging Eritrean-ism and it’s core principle as an entity…found on nothing but contempt for others, and given the fact that MANY Eritreans still live with the hope that so and so will fall-apart and Eritrea will gain, it is no surprise to see Eritreans like ‘hope’ clinging on to the same old miscalculation…remember the Singapore virus that once infected every-Eritrean mind and ended up costing them thousands of lives but left them with no profit to talk of…so the disease is still there and it can only get worse as the distress on their pipe-dream intensifies..

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear feven1,

          First: Challenging Hope’s way of thinking are not challenging at all the Eritrean-ism. Distinguish between Eritreanism and individual way of thinking. Challenging individuals by all standards will remain at individual level.

          Second: The Singapore issue has nothing to do with the Eritreanism, it is bounded only to the current dictatorial failed ambition since its beginning. It did not reach the intended audience as it was not started even at political propaganda level except one day rush interview.

          Therefore, kindly abstain yourself from generalizing. Induction based on unrepresentative allegations will not give you a picture unless you want to exhaust your energy.

          Dear feven1, if you want to know the truth, search and the reality is open to every genuine individual who wants it.

          tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Tes
            And just to ad, what wrong with aiming higher,Mr.fevenigno? The struggle is not because our aspiration was wild and therefore, needs correcting, the struggle is because our realistic and high _ flying aspiration has been dashed; we will be back before you dose of.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmud,

            Feveninoism is hate-ism.

            Fars wod farsotat Mahmud huwye, abshirka!

            Huka wo wed adka
            tes

        • haileTG

          Hi Feven

          the concept-ism of population judge-ism because of disagree-ism with an individual commenter-ism may be interpreted to mean people-hate-ism. Which may create delay-ism in people to people trust-ism form-ism. What is your reply-ism to that-ism.

          cheers-ism

          • guest

            are you trying to create people to people trust-ism, as if eritreans and ethiopians are strangers for each others? that is crazy-ism.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Haile TG-ism,

            Your -ism is funn-ism that the read-ism is full of rythm (r-ism).

            hawka
            tes

        • Haile WM

          this is stupidity at it’s most,
          You are here crying about the evil of eritreans just like a kid who has lost his candy and can’t stop crying. and seems you are in good company in this forum…

          Let it go. there is no use crying over spilled milk, it won’t make it come back. There is no way we are getting back… it’s a finished business, do you get it ? It’s a finished chapter… au revoir no wait adieu!

          P.S. The singapore part of your comment really reveals your intellectual dimension… but i am hopping one day you will realize if one of your neighbors achieves the success of Singapore you (Ethiopians) will be affected positively as at least you will not go far away places like saudi to search for work…

          Cheers

        • Nitricc

          Mr.or is MS, whatever you are, it is not over yet, so don’t declare us dead. We are alive and Eritrea still owns the same people who designate and left you for the dust. You see, when the USA killed Osama and wiped out his group; everyone assumed that was the end of it. No, stronger, more organized and more dangerous grope showed up. ISIS. Why? Because ideology never dies! So, if the great Eritreans once had the ideology of Singapore, it does not mean it is dead but it means it will be done with a greater determination, resolve and with unflinching fortitude by the next generation. Sure, things happened. It did not go the way we thought would be but check; our history, we are not the people who sit their in sadness with what happened to us and immobilizes by it, rather we will rise from our every pain, every setbacks and we treasure the most precious gift, the gift of ideology, the gift of Singapore. There is nothing motivates more, makes me do everything and drives me to no end than the idea of Eritrean Singapore. The reason you are having hard time grasping the ideology is because your ideology is to be develop your country in the ideology of begging and the Eritrean is the ideology of Singapore! You got to work for it, you got earn it, you got own it, you get the idea.

      • Hope

        Abi,
        Where the heck did you see me wishing for a broken Yemen,Mr Prosecutor and Judge?
        I know that, that is your wish for Eritrea so as to take over Aseb and Gash(do U know where Gash is,btw?).
        .
        Hannish Kebir belongs to us even in a crystal way better than that of Baduma case.
        At the right time and occassion,we will appeal for what belongs to us.
        Libeliwat yekejelu amora,yilwatal Zgigra.

        • Saleh Johar

          Hope,
          The Islands issue is settled for good and the courts know what belongs to whom. You claiming Hanish when it is ruled Yemeni is akin to hose who claim Asseb or Badme when they know they are Eritrean territories. You can’t have it both ways, be consistent.

          • Hope

            Saleh J,
            I was told that the case of Hannish Kebir is ” appealable” and that is why I am “Inconsistent”.
            We all know the biased decison by the Court on Hannish Kebir.

          • Saleh Johar

            No Hope, “we all [don’t] know the biased decision by he court on Hanish Kebir.” I don’t know that. I know the case is closed and we have to live with it. Otherwise, the case on Badme is also “appealable” as per your reasoning. I don’t think it is. It is a done deal only politics is getting in the way.

    • Haile WM

      Hope
      I don’t understand how is it you think we are going to have back the Hanish island ? Besides we have eritrea as whole and PFDJ can’t even deliver electricity to the capital tell me how are The hanish Island going to be beneficial to an average eritrean ??
      For what i care the Hanish Islands can be given to Greenland’s administration I don’t really care about Hanish Island. We have more than enough space and resource in mainland Eritrea and yet you worry about Hanish ? Or Badme ? Only PFDJ can use these insignificant places as excuse to hold power and subjugate the population… please let the hanish go to whoever want them

      Regards

      • guest

        wishful thinking aside and based on fact on the ground, if any country in east africa achieves success of Singapore it will be ethiopia and eritreans will be affected positively as the refugees(100s of 1000s and counting) will be treated better.

        • Haile WM

          so let it be !! I would be the first to joy over Ethiopia being successful, because if that happens it would mean that the horn of africa is finally in the right path, it would mean we have stability in the region, it would mean people can do business with the right political environment. and people from the region would benefit (including eritreans)
          the problem seems with some individuals that can’t see the development and opportunity it would create if one or more country in the region are successful, this individuals are driven only by hatred and all they can do is having joy of people of this nation or that nation are suffering (this includes you mr guest… its easy to speak about eritrean refugees but i beg to see the refugees of your country and numbers are quite impressive… i can provide you links just provide me the name of your country..)

          cheers

        • Hope

          Mr guest–for real, guest–as you have no clue about things and issues here.
          Why, and for what purpose are U bringing the Singapore issue here?
          We wish you the BEST and to be beyond Singapore.
          But rest assured that if U leave us alone and do your own home work,time will confirm to you that Eritrea and Eriteans will outshine and prevail beyond Singapore.

      • Hope

        Haile WM,
        No clue what and why you are asking me that question?
        Please ,be so kind to go and kidnap the PFDJ and free Eritrea once and for all.
        Hannis Kebir and Badme belong to us with or without PFDJ in power.

        • Haile WM

          how convenient!
          We eritreans do like to have things done by others on the matter of the PFDJ removal… remember it’s the duty of ALL ERITREAN to remove the PFDJ junta, not to some kind of superhero whom we expect to do the job for us.
          On the hanish island issue there is international court decision and the case is settled for good. For Badme quite frankly i don’t give a penny for it. it certainly don’t worth all that Eritrean blood nor the current predicament of our people.

  • T..T.

    Good for Yemenis not to be part of Sunni-Shia
    strife. Once, Hassen AlTurabi of the Sudan
    said that he was a Muslim and not Sunni or Shia. Indeed, if the Saudis and Iranians are linking
    Sunni-Shia to their type of their governments, the Sunna-Shia branches cease to
    be applied to those whose governments are constitutional republics. It is in line with this that the Yemenis have
    nothing to do with the Saudis and Iranians types of governments. The two, the Saudis and Iranians, do not
    necessarily have irreconcilable interests but each is trying to have a much
    greater share of influence in the Middle East governments. Otherwise, the two know well that no one is
    interested in their type of governments.
    The Saudis’ Amir style leadership and the Iranians’ Imam style Leadership
    are totally rejected by the Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese and the Yemenis. The Saudi Amir style leadership is a war time
    leadership where there are commanding bodies (the Amirs) and those individuals
    at whom the command is directed. And, the Iranian Imam leadership, although it
    signifies leader and follower like at the time of a prayer, it imposes
    authority on the followers who strictly follow what the Imam’s order. Turabi’s principle appears to have helped to
    eliminate or reduce the infections of the Saudi-Iranian strife in Yemen, which
    otherwise would have caused wide range devastation by the weapons in the hands
    of government and the rebels.

    • Hope

      T.T.,
      What about the Role of the Saudis in our Internal Affairs?
      Do you know the role of the” Wehabism” in Eritrea and as to why PIA and Petros Solomon complained about it?
      Do NOT tell me that,like Mr Abraham Hannibal has wished,that you do NOT mind if any power or any help including from the ISIS or Wehabi Agents to the extent of roaming over Eritrea to remove HIGDEF.

  • haileTG

    Selamat awatista,

    Translator/decipher/decoder needed:-)

    The Cabinet of Minsters held meeting today

    http://shabait.com/news/local-news/18187-cabinet-of-ministers-holds-meeting

    In its morning session, the Ministerial Cabinet made in-depth assessment, on the basis of the discussion paper presented by President Isaias Afwerki, of the subsidy policies adopted with a view to reinforcing economic development endeavors and ensuring supply of major consumer items vis-à-vis the impact thereof in the balance of payments. In this regard, the meeting conducted extensive deliberations on the review and adjustment resorted to as regards the subsidy policies. In the course of the deliberations, explanation was given concerning the current rational adjustment being introduced in reference to the price, purpose and use of fuel, along with the requisite review and assessment whenever justified. In this connection, the Ministerial Cabinet meeting conducted discussion pertaining to the vital responsibility of follow-up institutions in applying unified and coordinated control measures so as to protect the general consuming public from illegitimate price hike of basic commodities.

    What type of adjustmentwere made? What happened to balance of payments? What is rational adjustment versus irrational adjustment? What is Follow-up institution? What does unified coordinated control measures mean when DICTATORSHIP is just that? Since when do rational adjustments prevent illegitimate price hike

    Following extensive discussion regarding the mapping out of comprehensive and complementary plans dealing with the issuance of new trade licenses, the meeting adopted the requisite resolutions vis-à-vis reinforcing the national currency and its role in the purchase of strategic consumer items.

    Are we saying trade licensing are made subject of other requirements as signing up to peoples militia? what the keck is meant by reinforcing the national currency and its role in the purchase of strategic consumer items.

    This much complicated than the problem itself!! No wonder the elderly gentlemen sitting around had nothing to say except stare wide eyed like a baby meeting a stranger..:-)

    cheers

    • Saleh Johar

      HaileTG, let me try to translate it:
      1.Goods are scarce, can we issue a few license for the sucker Diaspora to come and bring goods with their hard currency, than we alleviate the shortage? That is the “requisite resolution.”
      2. Our currency has become a napkin paper, how can we breath life into a mummy?
      3. Can we be cleaver enough to raise prices by 20% and then subsidize essential goods by 10%? That way we make a clean 10%. that can help in the balances of payments, if the world accepts payments in Nakfa.

      In summary, such challenges need extensive, did I say very extensive? Yes, extensive consultations but at the end, they will be left not only with a “white paper”, but literally with a blank paper they brought from the presidential bathroom,

      • haileTG

        aha SGJ, let me try mine to…

        “…reinforcing the national currency and its role in the purchase of strategic consumer items.”

        The PFDJ has just received consignment of “extra printed nakfa” to be distributed in clandestine into the market. Hence, kbur seraqi feger President is giving his royal directions for the “reinforcing” consignment of printed money from Sudanese money printing company to be used for strategic consumer goods, i.e purchasing farmers and fishermen’s products to re-sell it for $$ in external markets.

        • Saleh Johar

          I heard the proofs were not approved, there was a glitch on the quality of the paper, I am not sure if they printed it on old newspapers 🙂 Are you sure they already printed it?

          • haileTG

            Not sure! Just following PFDJ inspired instincts:-)

  • Kokhob Selam

    ህግደፍ በብመዓልቱ ናብ ‘ቲ ዘይተርፍ ጉድጓድ ሕፍረት እዩ ዝኖግድ ዘሎ :: እቲ ዝለዓለ ጸገም ካብ ዓቅሙ ንላዕሊ ፈንጠርጠር ምባሉ እዩ : እዚ ኸኣ ኣብ ገዝኡ ዝለመዶ ቆልዓዊ ፈርዓና እዩ :: እዚ ሕጂ ኢዱ ዘእትወሉ ዘሎ ከቢድ ጉዳይ :- ንህዝብና ጎዳእን ኣሰካፍን እዩ : ልዕሊ ካለኦት ንዓና ዝጎድኣና ብምዃኑ ቅልጡፍ ስጉምቲ ክውሰዶ ይግብእ ::

  • L.T

    Awate..you become boring now..

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