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Lampedusa and the Eritrean Journey for Dignity

After much criticism, the YPFDJ,  the youth satellite of Eritrea’s ruling party, PFDJ, visited Lampedusa, a south Italian island whose shores were visited by victims of a shipwreck: 154 barely alive, and 359 dead Eritreans.   YPFDJ’s statement begins with this:  “The Y-PFDJ team has been in Lampedusa for almost 24 hours and the facts and situation on the ground is nowhere near hyped hysteria and propaganda depicted in the media since the unfortunate tragedy unfolded.”  This is what happens to people whose loyalty to a man and party trumps their humanity: protecting the party, protecting its image is priority one; everything else is delegated to a secondary position.   Let’s see if we can help them, and others who think like them, to understand why Eritreans are in a state of hysteria, overwhelming grief, rage, and righteous indignation.  Let’s see if we can help others see that the Eritrean journey has always been for dignity and when it is denied the path has always been the same: fight or flight.

On December 1, 1970, the Haile Selasse regime assaulted the village of Ona in retaliation for the assassination of an Ethiopian general by the Eritrean Liberation Front. Its residents–men, women, children–were cordoned in their huts; then the huts were torched.  625 Eritreans died.  The incident was such a wound to our collective hearts that to the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF), martyr’s day became December 1 (it still is) because it was a date that commemorated the highest number of civilians killed at one spot by Ethiopian officials to punish them for supporting the Eritrean revolution.

On May 12, 1988, the Mengistu Hailemariam regime assaulted the township of She’eb, in retaliation for its huge loss (liberation of Afabet: Operation Nadew.)  Its residents, mostly women and children, were crushed by tanks.  About 400 Eritreans died.  The incident was such a jolt to the collective hearts of Eritreans that even those who had forgotten about the revolution, and considered it a lost cause, returned back to the fold to support the Eritrean revolution.

Lampedusa is seen within this context.  359 people is the largest number of Eritrean civilians killed at one spot since 1988. (that we know of: who knows how many the Isaias Afwerki regime has killed.) And while there was some strange logic to Ona and She’eb (and Besik Dira, Hazemo, Weki Dba, Msyam…) because one could at least say cruel things happen in wartime; and, whereas, one could find some strange comfort that the victims of Ona and She-eb took their last breath in their hometown perhaps in the company of their loved ones, what makes Lampedusa heartbreaking is that the victims–mostly in their 20s–died far from home, far from their loved ones, and having taking unimaginable risks and having paid large sums of money to run as far away from home as possible– in search for human dignity.   That is what October 3, 2013 signifies to normal Eritreans and the hysteria is not “hyped.”

The Normal and Abnormal Eritreans

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction is to cry.  The abnormal reaction is to be quiet.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction is to ask why.  The abnormal reaction is to shut off inquiries.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction is to mourn.  The abnormal reaction is to spend the night dancing–as the PFDJ did in Atlanta and Riyadh.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction is to do everything one can to stop it from happening again.  The abnormal reaction is to accept as a foregone conclusion that it will continue to happen.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction of the head of state is to console his people.  The abnormal reaction is to pretend it didn’t happen and to hide.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction of a government is to visit the site of the tragedy as soon as possible, to investigate, to share facts–of the living and the dead.  The abnormal reaction is to drag your feet, to hide the facts, to focus on “information management.”

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction of a government is to do all it can to bring the dead home.  The abnormal reaction is to think of how will such action impact my grip on power.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes a religious people, the normal reaction is to pray, and, for religious leaders to comfort the faithful.  The abnormal reaction is to have religious leaders who have nothing to say.

When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes a people, writers write; artists are moved;  journalists report; activist agitate; leaders lead; the faithful pray; the religious testify; mothers are inconsolable; and the people are reduced to tears.  This is normal reaction and it has been witnessed in the Eritrean opposition camp and among those not aligned with the opposition or the regime.  The abnormal reaction is to minimize the loss, to ignore it, to focus on “damage control”, to pass a “business as usual” messages; to deflect attention away for its root causes (America!), to deny families the right to grieve and to have religious leaders–who are dragged out for any occasion to sing praises to the government–to be totally silent.  This abnormal reaction is what we have witnessed from the regime and its supporters.

EVERYTHING the regime has done thus far is political and designed for a single purpose: elongating its power monopoly.  Will sharing the news with the people strengthen or weaken my hold on power? Will showing empathy strengthen or weaken my hold on power?  Will acting quickly or more slowly strengthen or weaken my hold on power? Will treating this as exceptionally tragic or just another tragedy strengthen or weaken my hold on power? Will refusal to acknowledge all factors that contributed to it strengthen or weaken my power monopoly?  It is the regime and its supporters who have “politicized” the issue.

Disrespecting The Dead and The Grieving

Everything the Eritrean regime does is for political consumption.  And, for years, the Italians have had a reputation for having a messy government.  These two factors have conspired to deny grieving Eritrean families to get what they want most: to have the dead interned in their final resting place in their home, Eritrea.

The Italian government’s position is this: family members, preferably parents of the deceased, should provide their DNA to Italian officials; they must identify the deceased in person, in Lampedusa, and they must provide photos of the deceased, and submit an official request to have the body flown to Eritrea.  This fact-finding and investigation has been done by Abba Mussye and representatives of EYSC in Italy and they have shared their finding with the public.

Question: what about Eritreans who are unable to physically visit Lampedusa? Can Eritrean family members visit an Italian embassy anywhere and provide DNA evidence and submit the request? What if there are two contradictory requests by family members: which takes precedence?  Is this the first time that such a tragedy has occurred in Italy? If not, how has Italy dealt with the issue in the past?

Meanwhile, the Eritrean regime has disclosed that it has begun (belatedly) discussions with the Italian government and is eagerly awaiting for the bodies to be returned home.  If that is the case, has it made arrangements for family members to provide DNA to the Italian embassy in Eritrea? Are those who have been informed of the death from the surviving members of the Lampedusa tragedy allowed to grieve the traditional way: by constructing tents and holding religious ceremonies? Since that will require a gathering of more than 7 people, will they require a special permit to have that kind of assembly? Which Eritrean government agency do Eritreans go to get information about their loved one? Who is in charge?

A heavy dose of skepticism is required when it comes to the ruling regime’s solemn pledges that it is working to facilitate the transfer of the bodies.  This is because (a) it was not respectful of them when they lived and that’s why they left the country to begin with; (b) it is not respectful of the dead and considers traditional expressions of grieving wasteful and backward; (c) it considers any spontaneous gathering of Eritreans–any assembly that is not micro-managed by it–as a potential for disorder and mutiny; (d) it has no history of mourning for the dead–except those who happen to have been in the good graces of the dictator just before they passed on.

Only three examples will suffice to drive this point home:

1. In June 2003, when the Eritrean regime finally disclosed the names of Eritreans who perished in the 1998-2000 border war with Ethiopia, the state media reported that family members had accepted the news with cheers and ululations.  One reporter, Voice of America’s Aklilu Solomon, contradicted this manufactured news and reported that, no, in fact the families had cried and screamed and fainted.  The regime promptly arrested him and then said that his arrest had nothing to do with his report, it just so happened that it realized that he really should be in the National Service and he is serving his nation.  Eighteen months after “serving the nation” (in prison), he escaped to Ethiopia where he eventually became, in the words of PFDJ, a “victim of human traffickers.”

2. In February 2008, the family of Taha Mohammed Nur was summoned by government officials and told to collect his body: he had died in prison.  Here’s the significance: Taha Mohammed Nur was one of the founders of the Eritrean Liberation Front; later joining one of the splinter groups (ELF-PLF group led by Osman Saleh Sabbe.) After independence, he returned to Eritrea and served in a number of commissions  including the Referendum Commission and the Constitutional Commission of Eritrea, and had a paralegal/translation service/notary office.  None of his contribution to make Eritrea an independent state, nor to help in state-building, mattered when he died simply because months before he died he had run afoul of whatever laws the regime accused him of violating (of course, he was not charged with any crime, nor found guilty, nor sentenced: so nobody knows what that is.)

3. February 2012: Naizghi Kflu, a veteran of the Eritrean People’s Liberation Front, a former minister and ambassador, died in London, England after a long bout with kidney failure.  His body was kept in a morgue for months as family members awaited for a positive response from the Isaias Afwerki regime.   Despite a personal appeal by one of his daughters, Isaias Afwerki rejected the family request to have him buried in his country– this, despite assurances the family was given by senior government officials including the “special advisor” to Isaias Afwerki, Yemane Gebreab.  He was buried in the United Kingdom, without the Eritrean state media even mentioning that he had died.

Is Lampedusa the Tipping Point?

Some observers think the Lampedusa tragedy is the tipping point as far as the regime is concerned.  It will certainly add pressure from its usual allies and supporters. Public condemnation has already started.

Until recently, there were only a handful religious leaders who aired their opposition to the regime’s policy; after the Lampedusa incident, religious leaders have played an important role in echoing the suffering of Eritreans and the destructive policies of the regime. The inspiring and soothing messages the religious leaders gave in places like Manchester, Atlanta to name a few, is in fact the herald that the tipping point may have been reached.

Another event is the fact that close associates of the regime have publicly disassociated from it and are airing their rejection of the Eritrean regime and its leader—the public statement of Tewelde “Wedi Vaccaro” Tesfamariam is a testimony to this development.

Such developments would certainly exert more pressure to the Eritrean army and the public servants to act in resolving the governance issue in Eritrea. It is obvious that something big might come out of the Lampedusa incident.

Judging from its panicked and unusual reaction to the news, it appears that the regime thinks Lampedusa could be the tipping point.  This is no time to be complacent, then; it is time to charge.   Do not be intimidated by its accusation that its opponents are “politicizing a tragedy”: in point of fact, it is: it is using it to strengthen its power monopoly; and it is right and justified that the tragedy be a rallying cry to rid Eritrea of a regime that does not deserve to govern it.

Nonetheless, Diaspora groups and elements are already busy positioning themselves to secure a prominent place in the anticipated change. Such hasty, ill-devised, exclusionary moves could throw Eritrea in worse turmoil. Remember, the Eritrean journey–whether against the Ethiopian occupiers or the Eritrean regime– has always been one in search of dignity.  Nothing less than one that honors the dignity of ALL Eritreans will have legitimacy.   The PFDJ is an illegal, criminal institution, and any attempt to resuscitate it, or reform it, would throw Eritrea to the unknown. Yes, Eritrea needs change; it doesn’t need the tails where the other side of the coin is the PFDJ head. A new coin is needed; a coin with no stains of the PFDJ.
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    3. ብዛዕባ በዕልግና ናይ ኵሎም ሰበስልጣናት እውን ኣብ ብዙሕ ኣጋጣሚታቱ
    4. ካብ በሃለኡስ ደጋሜኡ ስለዝኾነን ንውልቀ ሰባት ክትትንክፍ እትሃስዮ ጉዳይ ንሃገርን ሕዝብን ወን ዘጸይፍ ስለዝኾነ ከምቲ ናቱ ብዙሕ ዝርዝር እካ ከኣቱ እንተዘይመረጽኩ ኣነ ሓንቲ ካብተን ግዳያት ብምካነይ ርክቡ ምስኩሎም ቢዝነስ ምንባሩ ድሕሪ ሰዓት 6 ድማ ከምዘይፋለጡ ገሊጹ፡ ብርግጽ ነተን ብዘይድልየተን ተምሪጸን ዝመጻ ዝነበራ መሰኪን ደቂ ድሕሪ ሰዓት 6ዩ መፍትሕ ናይ ገዘኡን …. ዝልገሰሎም ኔሩ ነዚወን ሕልነኡ ይኽሕዶ ዩ ኣይብልን (እንተዘተዋሳእካ ክፉእ ሬኢኻውንኮ ዓገብ ይበሃልዩ እንተዘከኣልካ ድማ ነቲ እከይ ገዛካ ኣይተምጸኦን ግን እቲ ጥቅሚኸ???)። ንበዓል ሪታ ሓዲግካ ማለተየ። ንሱ’ኸ ናበይ ይኸይድ? ኣምላኽ ይሕተቶ።
    5. ኤርትራ ናይ ህዝቢያ ፤ ሕጂ ድማ ኣጆኹም ናይ ኣባሓጎታትኩም እስትሕጋግ ኣሎሞ ….ክንማቀሎ ኢና ዛዓይነቱ ዘረባስ ዋላ ንባዕለይ ተቃዋሚት እንከለኹስ ኣስደሚሙኒ ኣልና እዛ ኤርትራስ ካን ኣኺሉዋዩ ክንግህጸኪ እምበር ክንሃንጸኪ ዚብል ዘየብላ።ትሩፍ ድሕሪ ደጊም፡ ንምኻኑ መንዩ እቲ እስትሕጋግ ዝወስድ? ወዲ ቫካሮ፡ ተቃወምቲ፡ ኢሰያስ፡ ስድራ ስወአት፤ ብሰንኪ ጥልያን ወለዶም ሰኢኖም ዘዓበዩ ኦርፋን ዋላስ መን?????????????????????????????????ንነብስና ንሕተት። ስለምንታዩ ኸ ዶክተር ሎሚ ምስ ከሰረን ኣንስቱን ደቁን ምስ ሰአነን እዚ ናይ ጥልያን ጽውጽዋይ ዘዕልለና ዘሎ? ሓንጎል ዘለዎ ሰብ ቅድሚ ምጥቀዑ ኣዝዊሩዩ ዝሓስብ ሞ ሓንጎልን ሕልናን ንግበር።
    6. ምናልባት ኣንስቱ ክብል እንከለኹ ሓንቲ እንድያ ሰበይቱ ኢለ ካብ ዝካተዑ ዝነበሩ ሰባትየ ኔረ ቤላ ቤለው ሓዲግካ ማለተየ ብዙሕ ከየተዛረብኩ ግን በዛ ናይ እሙን ምንጪ ጥቅሲ ክሓድገኩም “ እዚ ኹሉ ዓመታት ምስ ወሽመኡ ኮይኑ ተኸኽ ኣቢልዋ ከያክልሲ ሕጂ ድማ እንቃዕ ደኣ ብሽጉጥ ከየጥፍኣ እንከሎ ተገላገለት ካብኡ መስክነይቲ ….፤ ዕድመ ንፖሊስ ኢታሊ ሕጂ ግን ቀዳመይቲ ሰበይቱ ነጻ ወጺአ ቤት ፍርዲ ኮለል ትብልን ናብራኣ ትገብር ኣላ። እንተ እታኻለአይኣቲሞ ብዙሕካ ወረ እንተዘየብለይ ንሳውን ብሽጉጥ ተጸጊዓ ትኸውን፤ ተጋግያ ናይ ክንድዚ ዓምታት ሓዳር ኣፍሪሳ ኣርባዕት ቆለዑት በታቲና ኣይግድን ….እቲ በደለኛ ባዕሉካ እንተኮነ…” ናይ እዚ ናይ ሓደ እሙን ቀረባኡ ምንጭዩ።
    ኣነ ዕላማይ ኣብቲ ምቅዋም ደአ እምበር ውልቀ ሰባት ምህራም ኣይነበረን ግን ናይ ዶክተር መለአኽነት ምስ ሰማዕኩ ዘይሓልፈላ ዓዲ ሕጂኸ ናበዩ??? ኣገዲሱኒ ኪጽሕፍ ተገዲደ። ሓደ እዋን መንግስቱ ንዙንባቤ ምስ ሃደመ ዝገበሮ ቃለ መጠይቅ ክጠቅስ
    ጋዜጠኛ፤ ክንደይ ሰብ ቀቲልካ?
    መንግስቱ ፤ ናይ ነዕቀትን ምግራምን ሰይጣናዊ ሰሓቅ ድሕሪ ምስሓቅ፡ ይትረፍዶ ሰብ ሃመማውን ቀቲለ ኣይፈልጥን ክብል መለሰ
    ሓቁዩ በኢዱ ክትኩስ ወይ ሓኒቁ ክቀትል ዝረዮ ሰብ ዘሎ ኣይመስለንን ስለዚ ድማዩ ነቶም ሰጣናዊ ስርሑ ከሳልጡሉ ዝመዘዞም ሃዋርያት እከይ ኣሕሊፉ ዝሃቦሞ ፤ዶክተር ድማ ኣብ ክንዲ ኩልና ንጋገ ኔርና ንህዝቢ ይቅሬታ ሓቲትና ግን ንኸሓሶ እስከ ንፈትን ኣብ ክንዲ ማለት የሱስ መጼ ኣልኹሞ ስገዱለይ፤ ገንዘብ ካብ ኦም ባዕዳውያን ከዝንበልኩሞ ፈርሙ፡ ዝወደቀ ሃብተይ ከለዕሎ ተሓበበሩኒ ኣነ ኩሉን ብኹሉንየ ምባልሲ ኣይዘርባን ከምቲ ዘንፈልጦ ወስ ዘበልካልና ሕጂከ ምስ ኣየናይ ማፍያ ኮን ኢካ ከተዋዓዕለና ወደይ!

  • gebrihiwet

    ሰላም … ጉዳይ ሃገረ ኤርትራ ከም ጉዳይ ሃገረ ኣሜሪካ ኮይኑ ኣሎ:: እቲ ሓደ ብቅልውላው ባጤራ እቲ ሓደ ድማ ብሰንኪ ጭካኒኡ:ግዳይ ህዝቡ ዘይገቢር ሲሱዕ መንግስቲ ከምዚ ሪአናን ሰሚዕናን ኣይንፈልጥን ኣብ ግዜ ደርግ ኣብ ግዜ መግዛእቲ ዘይረኣናዮ ሕማቅ ራኢ …… እንታይ ንግበር? አታ ፍታሕ ሓንቲ እያ: ካብ ብሓባር ኣብ ጽርግያ ምስ ባንዴራ: ኣስላማይ ቁራንካ ሒዝካ ዱዓካ ግበር: ክስታናይ ቅደስ ምጽሓፍካ ሒዝካ ናብ ቤተክርስትያን ኢንዶ ንኪድ: ኒቢኣት ወለድና ፈጣሪ ኪሪእዮ መታን: ብጽምኢ ማይ ብጸልማት መብራህቲ ብሕማም ምድሓኒት ኣብ እስርቤት ብዘይ ፍርዲ ንዚሳቀ ህዝቢ ቃሕስ ስለ ዘይብሉ ኣምላክ ዋሕሱ ኪከዊን ንለሚን በጃኩም ብጃኩም ሓደ ኢና ኣይንፈላለ መፍቶ ጨካናት መራሕቲና ኽይንከውን::እዚኣቶም ንርእሲኦም ተደናጊሮም ነንሕድሕድና ካብ ንደናገር ሓደ ቃንቃ ዳተዛረብና ኣብ ኪንረዳደኣሉ ዘይንክእል ደረጃ በጺሕና ከም ዘለና ንኩላትና ቡሩህ እዩ በጃኩም በጃኩም ኤርትራዊያን የሕዋተይ ኤርትራ ናትና ናይዞም ኒሓዝን ንነብዕ እምበር ናይዞም ጨካናት ኣይኮነትን ኤርትራዊ ትኮንካ ን ኤርትራዊ ሓውካ ኣኽብር::

  • Gedion Teferra

    Greeting from Addis Ababa Ethiopia

    I was very much touched by the tragic accident happened in the shores of Lampedusa young men,women and children of Eritrean mostly. I was moved very much when I see in you tube the mourning of the survivors. Last Sunday in the church I attended the pastor requested to pray about the refugee issue in east Africa in general and in Eritrea in particular. I cried and prayed to God. My heart is burdened about my fellow brothers,sisters being persecuted in Eritrea for their faith in Jesus. I have decided to pray until something happen. I long the day normalization will come between these two countries. I long the day I will come to Asmara and pray with brothers and sisters their. I long the day both Ethiopia and Eritrea will live in harmony together. I long the day all these crisis come to end in both counties. Please our Lord see the pain inflicted in our brothers and sisters in Eritrea. Lord let them be free from their captivity in Jesus name Amen

  • luna

    To Seare:
    Thanks for the frank statement you made. There are thousands of Eritreans who do the same thing and make every effort to hide their actions from others. Admission by itself frees the mind. It is human to make mistakes. But accepting responsibility for our actions or errors makes us stand on a higher and better ground. As a result it makes our conscious to be free of guilt. It makes us ready to fix previous lapses in judgement and be better individuals. Tolerance for ideas to flow is another good culture we need to develop. When we do that our social, political and cultural discourse will have a wider venue to create influence and better understanding about issues which matter to Eritrea’s well being.

    I would like to mention to the wider Awate audience to try to stick to the subject being discussed. Please, avoid jumping here and there just for the sake of saying something without paying attention to what is being said. Say it if it is relevant to the topic being discussed. That helps to keep meaningful dialog to go on in order to reach our goal as a nation.

  • kubur

    Please guys stay with the topic.Focus. Don’t enterain any one who want to shift from the topic. The author of the topic had advised us trying to reform the regime is another futile attempt that will lead to elongation of the suffering.The time for destructive disscusion is over. Time to act.

  • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

    It was around 1983-4 that was time of ሰላሕታ ወራር Derg version የባሕረ ነጋሽ ዘመቻ. A brilliant fighter commander said to his gathering fighters, “we only win through individuals not by leadership therefore we have to fight each person as individual – be yourself as fighter, as a commander, and as leader”. Why he said that clearly shows the trouble we see now is not 1991 or 1998 or 2001 or 2013 Weyane or someone else. It was a problem rooted from many years though the secrecy/ሚስጢር ዉድብ veiled all the evils.
    About year of his remarks and the war ended with victory he run away to sudan – not exactly clear where he gone after sudan perhaps killed by esayas death agents.

  • TiETiE( Shiro bubble)

    የቐንየልና አባላት አዋተ።

  • haile

    Selamat saay and all

    Thanks saay for the Boston Vid. What a genius to construct those coffins and hold a memorial right outside of the event! That is simply class act, my deep respect for those Eritreans in Boston for such a devastating blow to PFDJ that night. I would hate to be on the shoe of those taking walk of shame into the dancing hall by the killers of infants, babies, children, young adults and women of Eritrea. Blood on the dance floor!!!


    • saay


      Yep. The walk of shame was made even more shameful when they had to use the service entrance to get in to the building. And the man they came to see, Wedi Tikabo, koblilu. (No offense to high pitched and master krarist, Dawit Shilan).

      On the other bay, the San Francisco Bay, Oaklands fire breezing dragons were all geared up to outdo Boston.


  • saay

    Selamat awatistas:

    Dozens of survivors protest Lampedusa ship disaster funeral…

    {{Lampedusa’s mayor Giusi Nicolini did not attend Monday’s ceremony, criticizing the decision to hold it so far from the island. The mayor of Agrigento, Marco Zambuto, called it a “farce” and a “photo opportunity” for Alfano.

    “This port has never seen an immigrant boat arrival,” Zambuto told RAI state TV.}}


  • Ermias

    Here is an incredible article from If you have any compassion, it will make you cry. This is with regards to the Bay Area PFDJ party scheduled for this weekend.

    Eritrean Residents of Bay Area,

    I learned on Saturday afternoon that there will be a PFDJ party there with Wedi Tikabo and the rest of his crew from Eritrean. The guitar player from Selam Band told me so as he will be their lead guitarist. I begged him to stop but to no avail.

    You will be dancing on the bodies of the Lampedusa victims. Most Eritreans have not been able to sleep after October 3rd. How can we? We lost 367 precious lives, perished in the sea only trying to find a better life for their families. No other crimes whatsoever. But you will be dancing on these innocent young men, women, and children’s bodies. Please do not do this. If you have any sort of human decency and compassion, not only should you boycott this event, you should also protest it and actively engage to have it cancelled. What message will you be sending to the victims families? You can bet that we will expose it, post it, for all the world to see. Do not do this! Stop! Do you not hear the cries of the children, the very young mothers, the young men who had their arms raised when their bodies were recovered? Dem yeblkumn dyu antum sebat? I know this is being organized by HIGDEF but you party lovers will join them and make them look good. This is not a party time. ab hazen ena zelena bejakatkum. resatatna kem hamed zeylebesu zelwusi. naakum eyu zbkeyekum. nabza gauyla ezia zikede seb mechem mis adgi ember mis seb kukutser atsegami eyu kikewin.

    • Ermias,

      Wedi Tikabo has left them for good. We gave him an exit to his destination. He is doing well and is done with PFDJ. “Wurayom enda Tselmete eyu zikeyed zello.”


      • Ermias

        Ema hawey, kemey dehaika yitaam. tsibuk asmikani. I had read the story that Wedi Tikabo had left them but I was playing it cautious. The guitarist whom I know well had told me that it was a bluff but apparently he is underestimating the power of the masses that are protesting. In any case, wedi tikab went to school with my older brother and I knew him since childhood, in the early 80’s. I saw him singing in the streets once during the refernedum and it was a shock to us because we didn’t know he had any musical talents. Anyways, this is a huge blow to the regime. I always wondered why he was serving this evil regime but he finally made the right decision at the right time. God bless him

        • saay

          Selamat Ermias and Emma:

          Oakland PFDJ has cancelled the concert. It just dawned on them* it would be in bad taste to party and dance while Eritreans are in a total and complete meltdown about Lampedusa.

          So, once again: score 1 for normality. They are slow, you have to hammer them with reality, and occasionally they will fold.


          * Or some other reason that we will know in time…

      • Selam Saay,

        He defected from Boston hours before the event started. It was a complete surprise and shock to PFDJites as they lose their star singer. It was coooool!

        • Papillon

          ደቂ ቦስተን ጀጋኑ ጸባ አስቲኹምና እዚ ርኹስ ኢሳያስ ማዓልቱ ተወዲአን እየን

          • L.T

            Ezi Geza Geza tegaru Aykonen,Geza Enda Awatetatn enda Isaiasistyn eyu.

        • L.T

          Kuda Areza what a head!What intelligence!What a learning!pure gold.Make more Kuda Areza.

      • L.T

        Kuda Areza;
        You can take advantage of him before he starts making his clients pay for his name.Took Wedi Tikabo for lunch and then accompanied him to the lawyer’s office where all arrangements were completed.

      • kogne

        wedi tikabo hadimu,mesfin hagos hadimu,nothing going to change, nothing,just pray pray somebody to do some dirty thing to do for you my friend,

  • Michael, B.


    ኣንታ ለጋስ ሃገራዊ!
    ክብረት ይሃብካ፡ መኅበር እሕዋትካ፡ ክብሪን ፍቕሪን ናታተን፡ እወ!

    • Ermias

      Thank you Michael. Tigrinya font yebley abza computer ember lizub gere kemti natka m’melskuka. But I firmly believe that without our women joining our struggle ‘for dignity’, we will never succeed. I have worked on committees in different Eritrean organizations and the very best ideas come from our women. They are strong, straight forward, clear, honest, and very passionate. The best asset Eritrea has is its women. I fully 100% believe that with no intention of flattering anyone or trying to sound cheesy.

  • L.T

    Poem by Dr/Ato Kebede Michial.Uncal to Elias Kifle

    “Mot Unkan Nore
    Unquan Tefetere.
    DHa Endyionor

    “Dingay biKoreutumu Jemal Abdel Nasser B-Lqiso Bizat altetemelesem” Book ” TliQu Afrikawi”or”Great African”

  • Kaddis

    I didn’t reflect on the Lampedusa tragedy maybe for loss of words… I share this poem for those who read Amharic. Me and my family pray for those in grief

    ኖረን አኮ አናውቅም
    ከባህር ጠርዝ ላይ
    እንደክቡር ድንጋይ
    እሬሳ ስንለቅም::
    ከሙሴ ተምረን
    ባህር መግመስ ሲያምረን
    በባህር ተገምሰን
    በታንኳ ሄድንና በሳጥን ተመለስን::
    የካሌብ ወራሾች ያሉላ ‘ባ ነጋ
    የ ምኒሊክ ልጆች የና’ ብዲሳ አጋ
    እንደ ጫጩት መንጋ
    በጭልፊት ዋርካ ስር እንደተበተነ
    አቅማችን ጋሻችን ጩኸት ብቻ ሆነ::
    በቅል ማህጸን ውስጥ
    ባጉል ቀን ተፈጥሮ
    እንደሚኖር ተባይ ታፍኖ ታጉሮ
    ማን ነው የጫነብን መውጫ የለሽ ኑሮ::

    (በስደት ወጥተው የባህር እራት ለሚሆኑ ኢትዮጵያውያን እና ኤርትራውያን ወገኖቼ)
    Bewketu Seyum, Augusta Georgia, October 9th 2013,

    • L.T

      Kaddis;Heavens!What a friendship!
      You just can’t imagine what good friends we are,I and you Kaddis.This poems are so simple,so clear!

  • haile

    Selam Awatista

    There is no way to verify the date that this video was taken, however, please imagine yourself in there, now imagine your children in there if you have any, even imagine your closest and dearest in there. Then think what would have driven you to be there with your small children. Think how desperate one must get to consider such a risk.


  • Papillon

    Dearest Yodita haftey,

    I absolutely agree. I wouldn’t say religion for it has a systematic undertone to it but faith sure enough is a private matter. And I apologize if I offended anyone including you haftey natey. Having said that however, this particular song has a sense of lamentation, desperation and agony to it as you can clearly see that some of the faithful are prostrating as they weep and wail for Eritrea. Eritrea that is languishing in the wilderness where “John The Baptist” is now where to be found to herald the desperately needed a breaking-dawn.

    I grew up in a household that confesses the Eritrean Orthodox Church. I still remain faithful to that denomination. However, as much as my faith over the years went through self-reflection and at times dabbling with idealistic adventures, I have come to realize that, faith is a bulwark that can keep us strong and sound in a difficult and tumultuous times. Again, I apologize.


    • Ermias

      I don’t mean to interfere but we make conscious choices as to which comments to read and what videos to watch. As long as doesn’t see any problem with it, your freedom of religious expression should remain intact. A lot of people here post music videos too and strictly speaking it’s against my religion to listen to songs of amliko ta’ot but I ain’t gonna complain about it because I can simply ignore them. So Ms Yodita, please have tolerance to people who are different from you. That’s what we are all fighting for collectively because the Eritrean reigns has deprived us of our rights of freedom of speech and religious expression.

      • Nitricc

        Say what now? There is a religion that prevents from listing to music? What the…
        Are you for real? Well, I see now why you are all messed up.
        Can you share what else your religion, whatever it is, prevents you? Lol this is funny.
        I would think your religion should have came handy and prevented you from using multiple names but no, it will however, prevented you from listening music.
        Yodita are you religious too? I don’t get it why you are offended? Just asking.

        • Ermias

          Read my comment again. I said songs of amliko ta’ot. kemti baal niska tizmrwo “nhna nsu, nsu nhna” endablekum ab haymanotey ayfkedin eyu.

          You make no intelligent contribution here because all you do is antagonize and sabotage people and their comments. You try to disuade us from feely expressing our thoughts and ideas here. This is not gazeta hadas ertra. This is, fearless reporting and commenting. No body is afraid of you and your PFDG junta and if you wish I will give you my full name and address so you can report me to Asmara. That will make you a real hero.

          This tactic of trying to intimidate people can only go so far and it has reached dead end. You have been using psychological intimidation to change the perception and behavior of others here by using deceptive and even abusive tactics. You learn this from your daddy IA. But look where we are now. Bullies crumble when faced couragesously. That is what Eritreans are doing now, facing the bully head-on and now PFDJ and their ignorant operatives have nothing to say except degrade the victims of Lampedusa.

          There are virtually only two sects of people who support PFDJ and IA currently. One of sect is blinded by narrow minded awrajawinet. This sect tends to be very low information supporter because this sect feels protected by IA and his cronies. The prescription to these group is to simply do a simple research on IA’s genealogy and his close confidants. They are not real Eritreans in the first place let alone belonging to a certain awraja. If you belong to this group, Nitricc, then there is not very much we can do to help you except advise you that Eritrea is such a small country and supporting the dictator along those lines is shameful because the entire country is suffering more so Asmara than any other place.

          If,on the other hand, you sympathize with the regime because you have a small house in Eritrea or a wife to bring or any other thing to gain as a supporter, then you have no soul. Call your family, if you have any, in Eritrea and ask them how they are living. For all you know, you have a close relative in Libya waiting to test the waters but I pray to him or her to make it safe to Europe. This group is a bunch of hypocrites and traitors. You live in the West and you get instructions on how to lead your life via your respective Eritrean embassy. Shame on you! You need to call a spade a spade. We have an incredible dire situation in Eritrea where people will do anything to flee the country and the people they love. It ranks at the bottom two or three for very index that has ever been created by humans. There is no fixing this – the only fix is to take out IA and the generals will finish themselves off because they are all corrupt and they are waiting for their master to die.

          We have a country where people live at the will of one man. But the tide has began and there is no stopping this. Lampedusa is the beginning of the end no matter how long it takes.

          • Nitricc

            Where is Beyan? I need Beyan to translate this to me, lol oh my 🙂
            Dude I just asked you what your religion was and you want banana.
            First you have no credibility so how do I know you are giving me your real name? Remember you have many of them? Lol
            Secondly, remember on the other thread when you compline peopl were hijacking the thread with irrelevant issues and the first one to respond to you was Beyan, to his credit, by replying to you, Beyan was admitting his guilt as charge. Instead of taking it up with Beyan, you blamed Nitricc, L.T and Meron. You talk about gutless no bones to Stand for. You ended up thanking Beyan. Dude talk about credibility.
            Now, get your self to gather and tell me what is your religion?

            You know the one that prevented you from listening to songs but lets you to deceive people with maltiple nick names lol 🙂
            Chill and tell me your religion, hey I may hap on it 🙂

      • Nitricc

        Greetings Moda, I had posted a comment on this thread and I don’t see it. Did I say anything inappropriate?

      • Beyan Negash

        slemat Kim, Yodita, Papillon, and Ermias,

        I saw no religious overtone or undertone in the song. At this junction of extraordinary times that we find ourselves in calls for extraordinary personal measures to stay sane. Listening to such nationalistic gospel that beautifully captures the wounded nation is only an illustration in how the wound doesn’t just hurt the land but the scar is even deeper with its people.

        Therefore, such soothing lament is a much needed reprieve, that I, too, must confess, have a collection of poems, songs, lamentations, and the like, that I save and listen to when desperation and inner turmoil attacks. I go back to some such music for comfort.

        It is the solace that emanates from such renderings that I find soothing. I wish there were more of some such lamentations from other religious denominations of Eritrea that touch us to the core of our beings that Papillon unearthed.

        For example, I find Sufi Mystic Music soothingly comforting and here is one that really is entrancing that may touch different part of your inner being. All that one has to do is replace the image of Istanbul with that of Eritrea’s. Go ahead give it a shot.

        Indeed, Ermias, kmzen aHwatna ysensenelna, ywaleda, ybzaHalna, sh’Hn me’itn ekhunalna. If women were leaders of the world instead of the moronically testosterone driven ones that men seem to preoccupy themselves with, the world would’ve been a much compassionate and peaceful place.


        P.S. I just realized that I didn’t hypertext my link. Too lazy to go back and do it now. But, copying and pasting it into URL bar will have to do on your end.

    • Yodita

      Haftey natey (to steal your endearing expression)

      Kbret yhabki . Lzubn lebamn melscki humbles me. May God bless you infinitely!
      I appreciate and value your intervention as I hold it to be one of our most precious legacies (to intervene genuinely and firmly when a situation requires it). I fear so much that we are becoming passive spectators.

      Having said that, I am also from the Orthodox background and have maintained the same, albeit being a soft-liner. In a nut shell however, over half of my reading time goes to trying to understand the esoteric and the divine part of existence and look for it in all the great teachings without any discrimination. Back in our beloved free Eritrea, engaging Papillon on this subject matter would be a delight given her unique razor-sharp mind that I have come to feast on in this forum and on a subject that is urgent and paramount to all of us. I raised an eyebrow ONLY after I read some (a few) of the other posts and had to think an awful lot before writing my ‘criticism?’.

      To conclude, I will quote here another lebam intervention of Kim Hanna:
      “ … I share your concern. However, different people deal with tragedy in different ways. I hope that is what this is.”
      If so, apologies Papillon, Haftey natey.

      • Ermias

        Yodita haftey natey, kemakin kem papillon’n ybzaha. Anabs aleknana future leaders.

  • said

    Eritreafirst and alike
    When one day you open your eye and you will see and hopefully you will be one of the majority of Eritrean who want to get rid of the DIA and his regime and that will you know. DIA has a freehand and license to kill at will , maim and oppress our own people without any consequence to fear .DIA believe the interests of the people should not stand in the way of his power; and that those who get in his way — they get crashed ,they are the victims, innocent people — should remain faceless and voiceless. In believing that no the rule of law, applies to him and his regime. When thousands of people are murdered and displaced as refugees, as is the case in Sudan and now Ethiopia ,PFDJ subjugation and oppression are norm of the day ,with totally Shattered economy with no hopes ,with no jobs available and massive youth high unemployment and public total disaffection with DIA and his government. DIA vigorously pursued a policy of breaking up unity and bonding of our society and facing of poverty and social divisions.

  • haile


    Here is a commentary from ERiTV that talks about “weyane” and “Ethiopia”:

    If you replace those with “PFDJ” and “Eritrea”, it would make an excellent reminder to tell the regime what time it is now 🙂


    • Ermias

      Wey mesdemem. n’asha haki’meslo n’zeyfelt yetrto

    • saay


      What a shameless trash-talkers the Isaiasists are. The Asmelash editorial (never mind who wrote it) taunts Weyane as incapable of doing anything militarily–in August 2011. In eight months, the Weyane would make not one but two military forrays INSIDE Eritrea to attack ethio opposition military bases inside Eritrea. All the fekhera of the Isaiasts that they were ready to foil any violation of Eritrean sovereignty was the usual: empty boasting. They couldn’t protest to the UN without disclosing that they are incapable of defending Eritrea so they were like a mouth in a church: hush quiet.

      The first job of any government is to protect the people. The Isaiasists have failed at that— repeatedly. The second job is to give hope to the people that the future is better than the present: epic fail. It’s a dreadful failed government that should be swept out off office.

      First they destroyed the potential of PFDJ. Then they destroyed the reputation of EPLF. Then they went overtime to destroy the reputation of Eritrea to make it a synonym for a country that its citizens will do anything to escape from.


      • haile

        Hi Saay,

        Yes indeed. The glaring fallacy was also the fact the regime was under arms embargo for over a year at that time and the world was debating to slap it with a complete economic embargo under chapter VII. The only thing the IA followers would have latched on from that editorial was the “communication skill” you refer to in the past, i.e. “ZeyMelaElta kbur hizbi ertra”. That vibe always does the trick to send them to deep trance, the rest is pure hypnotism :-).

        The second reason for my posting is however, the fact that this editorial aptly describes the current state of condition of the regime more than anything else.


        • In deed Haile the Great
          First my deep apreciation for keeping as informed in every aspect of the unfolding situation of Eritrea. the same goes to Awate team.
          Keep them coming guys awate forum is the only place for a credible News matrix.
          Thank you again with love!

  • haile

    “The victims in the Lampedusa boat accident – most probabely have been away from Eritrea more that a year.” – Very probable and likely True!

    Now, these victims had two choices: To go back to Eritrea or Die trying to get to a better and safer place. Why did they chose the second one?

    That is the whole reason that the IA regime has to be removed so that those who have been 1, 2, 3, 4, 5…years out of Eritrea can consider going home as an option!

    The fact that no one is firing at them is also the reason that people are saying the regime must be so cruel that they decide to do so in order to avoid life under its clutch.

    The death of 367 people in a split second like this have shaken the world, you seem to have cavalier attitude about it, may be they are not your people or couldn’t care less.

    [haile: in case people are wondering who you are replying to, the person you are responding to, Gud aka Asmara aka Focus aka 100 other names has been escorted out; with a gentle reminder that he should avoid the double swinging doors smacking him. We are giving him a cooking off period until he recovers from his fever.]

  • haile

    Selamat All,

    Eritrea: Silence Kills


    • saay

      Selamat awatistas:

      This is an extra-ordinarily well-produced documentary on the Lampedusa tragedy. Well done, Eritreans4Justice. I think years from now, it’s the split-screen image that will damn the Isaias regime. The young EriTV newscasters who was just reading what was handed to her and referred to the victims as “illegal immigrant Africans said to be citizens of the Horn of Africa” and the home video recording of the PFDJ concert in Atlanta and high-pitched Dawit Shilan getting the party-animal crowd going.


  • henok

    You guys sure love to preach to the choir.

    On the anti-PIA meter, you guys score an 11 out of 10.

    But you don’t really get any converts. It’s the same people repeating the same anti-PIA rhetoric.

    It’s like Groundhog Day!

    • Saleh “Gadi” Johar

      When did you begin to comment here? There, an answer for you 🙂

      • TiETiE( Shiro bubble)

        KbelEwa ZdeLeYu Aba GunBaH ZaGra YbLwa. Infact AbaGunBaH can not be ZaGra but the probability to mislead others that trapped AbaGunBaH as ZaGra is high.

    • said

      DAI to continue to sell you the ugly lies it’s been hawking for more than two decade .This is what makes DAI so amusing. It is like Asmara bar-room chatter late at night, the ugly lies full of things that couldn’t possibly be true, but are accepted by everyone present as Gospel.

      • eritreafirst

        I will take PIA ugly anyway our your truth!

  • haile


    A powerful poem by popular Eritrean movie artist Fuad Alamin (3 min)


    • saay


      I will use your post to go off tangent about a pet peeve:

      Eritrean news announcers, poets, public speakers, religious sermon providers:

      Please, for the love of God, stop using reverb: you may think this helps dramatize what you are doing but we the listeners don’t know what you are saying. Throw away your digital audio workstations and your plug ins: just speak. No reverberations, echoes can salvage a bad product; no reverberation helps a good product.

      So, how is Fouad on the reverb scale, Haile?


  • said

    I prefer to think that 75% of Eritrean are basically decent and honest people, like most people, which is to say that they were born free, decent, value and faith oriented. But it takes a while to crystallize what that means. Many caring and patriotic Eritrean Diaspora have moved beyond gut of being free, humanist and some adhering to being independent liberal and free thinkers ,we all must start to a structured, intellectual free and humanist.
    Some Eritrea sees tragedy lampedusa calamity, in the same things we see through a totally different lens, however. Those people tend to be the other 25% or perhaps 25% of that 25%, or even 25% of that 25% of that 25%. They range from being wishy-washy on politics, ideology, faith, moral, ethical subjects to being blind followers and stooge of DIA followers or sociopaths or even outright thugs and criminals. These people are at the opposite end of the spectrum from us in every way of rational thinking and human decency .
    A true free thinker, humanist, independent liberal and independent mind advocates for the freedom of everyone to do what he or she wants as long as it’s not hurting someone else. This includes people who don’t agree with our views.
    As opposed to DIA and regime thugs busybodies who want to tell Eritrean what to do and what to adhere to, what to think. And be like them a blind followers and stooge to DIA and regime thugs, they believe and think they know best and are perfectly willing to put a gun to our head to make sure that you do what they think is divinely ordained and totally right. With DIA and regime thugs We are being doomed to an endless cycle of cruel oppression and endless suffering . DIA government see the nation as personal fiefdom and a cornucopia, they rule as they wish and they take and exert what can maximum from the people and state treasury leaving the people and state destitute.
    The situation is extremely hopeless at this point of time and it’s likely to get a lot worse before it gets much better. Change and Trends are in motion, in whatever direction, tend to stay in motion until they hit a serious crisis as is sad case the tragedy of Lampedusa, at which point in time they transform into something else. This trend is not only in motion, but it’s accelerating in the wrong direction for DIA government which they not will come out of it wining. Let all those who believe in democracy, and in justice, try to keep cool and courageous and do their duty in face of this tragedy lampedusa calamity.

    • eritreafirst

      … and we should believe you why? You lay all kinds of name to a leader who delivered

      Eritrea. Stuck from the beginning to end. I would have believe you if you were balanced and

      fair. You are not. For every finger you point millions are pointed at you. No amount of lie

      can cover the truth, that is hate you spew.

  • Hyabu Besela

    A wonderful article awate team. I always feel as if I am reading, Newsweek, Time or The Economist when your articulated, proffessional and fact-analysis is posted on awate. Please feed and empower us with your intellectual and analytical predictment and judgments.
    Always your fun guys.

  • Papillon


    I can’t possibly get enough of this song.

    • Yodita

      My Dearest Papillon,

      If you only knew what a hard time I am having seeing you in this light!! Please correct me if I am wrong but isn’t faith a very private matter? Besides, you are so unique and incomparable in your contribution of political comments and insights, adding this dimension which is purely subjective and personal, in a way, dilutes the intensity of its role. I hope I am not offending but I must confess I noticed this zeal for spirituality only after your return from your very missed absence from this forum.


      • Kim Hanna


        You are observant. I share your concern. However, different people deal with tragedy in different ways. I hope that is what this is.


  • Tamrat Tamrat

    The very complex paradox in eritrean politcs is that both awate-team (groups) and pfdj’s explanation of the grusome hazard of Haile Silassie (Ethiopian) ‘colonization’ of Eritrea and the corresponding reactions by eritreans are one and the same. Based on on their explanations post independet Eritrea is much much better than pre independent Eritrea and this can be confirmed by the reaciton of the eritreans to pfjd government which has sat in Power form 23 years now. Setting aside the armed struggle and its consquences since there has no armed struggle put in action against pfdj by eritreans, according to pfdj and awate’s explanation eritreans must wait much longer time until pfjd’s attrocity comes to the level of the King Haile’s atrocity.

  • Seare

    Off by one …

    – How dare you compare O’na, Shieb, Weki-Duba … with what is happening today. At that time Eritreans were doing all they can to save their country and people. Today we are only inspiring the young genrations to flock out of the country. Here is my example:
    – I am writing this comment in a relatively confortable house. I am risking nothing on doing so
    – I am helping my family back home. therefore, they are doing better than our neighbors
    – I go back home once in while to show off and enjoy my time. I even have the courage to tell family and friends there about the hardship in Europe or US
    – I have bought one or two house few years back ( the hauses are not rented. the rent is not worth the effort)
    – I have helped my sister and bother leave the country
    – I blame everybody for the tragedies of my people and country
    – I go to PFDJ seminars and festivals – mainly for morguayla – and applaud with the others who ever happens to be on the podium

    So please don’t compare me and those of us here in Europe and US with my friend Eyob who was killed early 1989 in Shebah probably avenging Shieb.

    The blame of what is happeing today to our country and people is due to my and yours lack of courage and vision

  • haile


    A powerful new speech “must listen” by Deacon Yohannes, IA’s demonic tendencies…

    PS. The priest on the picture is not the speaker.


    • beyan negash

      Selamat Haile,

      gegay ykhla’allay ember, the Deacon in the picture that you just availed sounds exactly the same like the one from Manchester – one that you proffered a link to earlier in the week in “the weed out PFDJ” dialogue box. Here is that link. If you want to go straight to when the Deacon begins his speech, past the prayers that is, skip to about 10 minutes and 34 seconds. I will stand corrected if it is not so.

      • haile

        Selamat brother Beyan

        You are correct that is the picture as you said. For some reason, I am thinking that the voice sounds that of Aba Shonoda from London UK hagere sibket…any idea? I should have said “may not be” in my earlier statement! There was no way I could verify for sure however:)


    • Papillon

      Dear Haile,

      I have always said it. Isaias has an aversion to light. He takes gratification of darkness. This may sound way of the chart but it is true. Isaias is an evil spirit manifested in human flesh. “People” like him have walked on Earth and exterminated innocent people with no compunction what so ever.


  • eritrea first

    The article is full of deceit and misinformation. It is sad when those who claim to stand for

    truth and humanity resort to cheap political maneuvers. Awate team keep making the mistake

    that Eritrean people would fall for their cheap ploy. They are mistaken. It seems that they

    do not know Eritrean people.

    1. Awate team said, “After much criticism,…” Really? Who criticize who? Eritrean

    Government? Why? Because they ask some questions as to verify the true identity of the dead?

    That is what GOE do, ask question? Verify, clarify and quantify. The blame should be

    directed toward those who like to enslave humanity, namely USA and England.

    2.In the second paragraph Awate team mentions ELF, Eritrean liberation Front 2x when

    describing the tragic event (massacar) that happened in the 1970 by Ethiopian government

    against Eritrean civilians. But in the second paragraph they never mention EPLF, from which

    the current Eritrean leadership comes. (cant wait to see what SAAY response would be for I

    like to laugh at his simplistic answers.)

    Finally the biggest deceit was trying to make a tragic accident that happen far away from

    Eritrea to a massacre that was committed by an enemy. You got the right plan Awate team but

    you got the wrong people, Eritreans to fool. Nice try!

    Next time come up with a report that is actual and factual. We all are Eritreans lets be

    honest and face the enemy that is working day and night. Lets face them head on.

    • Sase Naim, Sweden

      What do you mean Eritrea First? You smell HEGDEF Mendef. You want an empty Eritrea without the people, hmmm. That was the policy of Haile Selassie. Do you Mr. HEGDEF Mendef understand that there will soon be more Eritreans living outside of Eritrea than those remaining inside? All this is because of the failed policies of the boss of HEGDEF Mendef. HEGDEF Mendef should be uprooted and replaced by an all-inclusive government, PERIOD!

      • eritreafirst

        Sase, Said “What do you mean Eritrea First?” Well…..let me see and try to figure

        out how to answer this one…hummmm… how about you read it again SIR. You said

        “… there will soon be more Eritreans living outside of Eritrea than those

        remaining inside? How did you figure that out? For your information most of the

        asylum seeker that come to USA under the name of “Eritrean Refugee” are Tigrayans.

        do yourself a favor and spend time with a know Eritrean refugee and he/or she will

        tell you that significant number of refugees are indeed Ethiopians. As far as

        Eritrean government being inclusive, well join them…nobody stopped you…work at

        your local Eritrean community or better yet just do it ! like MIKE! Set up your

        own government and we will see how inclusive you can be.

  • saay


    This won’t help the Isaiasits (it’s more “kick’em when they are down”): assenna is reporting one of the greatest artists Eritrea produced, Wedi tikabo, has said that it’s zemen. The Sem zeybl Ayni Asa has blinked: the Lampadusa poking will grow you eyelids. If true (if he has said no to being an Isaias tool) and if Wedi tikabo doesn’t do the Asylum-seeker-dictator-server routine, it will be another piece of the corrupt regime crumbling.

    The last one to leave the corrupt party… Blow the candles off (no light to turn off).



    • Wedi Toronto

      This one will hurt the Pfdj big time! I just hope this is true.

      2013 may end up becoming the end of Zemen for the dictator.

      • TheTruth

        How does a singer absconding hurt PFDJ? Ali Abdu was a bigger catch and his departure did not put a dent in the government.

    • haile

      Hey Saay…Yigermenalo!

      The Editorial piece for Uganda’s “The Observer” reads:

      “It’s, indeed, a statement about how bad their living conditions are at home, that they must consider such a dangerous option. Apart from countries like Somalia and Syria, where the security situation has been understandably generating refugees, there is no reasonable explanation why a country should produce so many refugees other than mismanagement by such a country’s leaders.

      One of the countries with a large representation at Lampedusa is apparently Eritrea, whose citizens appear to be in a hurry to leave every time an opportunity presents itself. Yet this is not about Eritrea, as many Ugandans would jump at the opportunity to leave as well.

      What is more straightforward, though, is the direct relationship between bad governance, poverty and insecurity, and a strong desire to flee one’s country no matter the risks involved. Thus a country’s high propensity to generate desperate immigrants says something negative about its leadership.

      The head of a home whose children are always looking out for the easiest opportunity to escape is a failed parent. Similarly, the leader of a country whose citizens would rather die on cold foreign seas than stay at home is a failed leader.”


    • Ermias

      Saay, I just spoke to a great guitarist earlier and mentioned to him casually that Wedi Tikabo is probably not returning home. He said it was bluff but he is a PFDJ sympathizer. He also told me that he will play his guitar with Wedi Tikabo and co. in Oakland next Sunday. We might know more in a week.

  • habte

    As always to the point and timely.


  • Wediere

    BBC Radio 4: Moral Maze 16/10/13 covers the issue of migration

  • Hayat Adem

    *This was about two Eritrean friends who live in Germany.
    Kahsay looked extremely stressed out. It appeared as though he was into an intensive one-man meeting with himself lately. He disappeared from the usual places he used to hung-out with his friends. On the other hand, there was no noticeable change of mood with his friend Habte- pretty much business as usual except that his personal interactions and call correspondences have increased dramatically. And now he placed a call to Kahsay and demanded that they both meet urgently.
    “Kahsay, you look sleepy. This is not the time… Our enemies are cooking things for us. This Lampedusa incident is becoming a pain in the XXX and it doesn’t seem to wither away soon.”
    “Okay… so?”
    “Europe YPFDJ leaders are worried of the developments. They must have gotten serious instructions from Monkey.”
    “I see.”
    “They have an urgent plan for us now. We’ve to move quickly. Listen, this is a different kind of Mekete. You will team up with the Frankfurt guys and help them on finding best ways to justify the GoE reactions to the incident. But don’t dwell on the point that the dead are not Eritreans. That didn’t sell well. Instead, try on externalizing the blame mostly on the US and European Gov’ts, some of it on the diaspora relatives and the rest on the victims themselves”
    “Do you get my points, Kahsay?”
    “Clearly, as crystal. But I am not taking any task.”
    “Why, what happened? Who got into you?”
    “Habte, Lampedusa got me my friend.”
    “You can’t do that. Treason is a crime. You know the consequences, don’t you?”
    “Crime? 400 Eritreans just died of drowning. Among them, there is a baby who was not given a single minute to live and a mother of three with her kids…You want to tell me about a crime?”
    “Kahsay, በትሪ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ነዋሕ ምዃና መዘኻኸሪ ትደሊ ኣይመስለንን። you should remember how we saved you before.”
    “I am aware. That betri comes and hits you in your home, can even reach you while you are crossing the border, and still yet it can follow you all the way to Europe through operatives like you. But this betri of yours doesn’t scare me now. It is not as invincible as you appear to make it look like. I can survive any of your betri, I can even return in kind or in a bigger way. But I would never survive the betri of the internal conscience if I continue being part of you after knowing what I know now.”
    “Kahsay, mark my word, you will never be able to set your foot alive or dead in our Eritrea…”
    “I already expected you would say that…”
    “And something else: We know that you were working with Weyene. Anta Agame!”
    “You only justified my decision.” said Kahsay and left.
    He sighed in great relief. Kahsay made that decision burdened by the Lampedusa tragedy. He didn’t think what it would mean in terms of balancing his feelings. Yet, after his last encounter with Habte, he felt something he had never felt: internal peace. It was a strange feeling of liberation. He asked himself “so I have been contradicting myself all these years?! This is a greatly relieving divorce”, he exclaimed.

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Wonderfull Hayat!as ususal.

      2010 on a short Meeting concerning how to cellebrate UN day with regugees i the center (norway).

      Organizer: It is always good to have a reason to make some arrangments to make active the refugees in Our center. And i dont see any other Perfect day like UN day since we know how much UN Works for refugees all over the world.

      Foot soldier of pfdj: The refugees do not want to cellebrate UN days because some of them bombed by UN permission to do so.

      Person who knows Our culture: We have to speak for ourselves. We explain why we choose UN day for the refugees and it is upto them to react. After all it is a democratic country we live in.

      We have had the best FN days with 50 workers and refugees from more than 12 countries.

  • lala

    Oktober 6 th I went to Church for buptism ceremony. After a messy and boring preaching rutin I expected the preasts to mention the lapedusa victims but they did not. Not even once. I was so disappointed buy their weakness to stand up for people even far away from eritrea in Sweden. When I came home I told my children not let my coffin enter eritrean church. The children burst to tears and begged me to stop. Not even a tragedy as such can
    make them show spontaneously to do what they suppose to do. Pray for their people.

    • Zegeremo

      Feel you:(


    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Dont take it on the children! Talk to the prists. If you say the same thing to the prists privatly what you told Your children it was not Your children who cired instead the prsits who would have sleapless neights. This is for all imams too.

  • Yerhwo

    “…When a tragedy of this magnitude strikes, the normal reaction is to mourn. The abnormal reaction is to spend the night dancing–as the PFDJ did in Atlanta and Riyadh.”

    Giessen – Germany fails – on 5th and 6th of October – Wegah tbel dancing and laughing & drinking while the whole Eritrean people cries !!

  • Awate Team,

    Excellent summary. More than the summary, the “compare and contrast” that is between the public reaction (grief/outrage) and the PFDJites archaic/abnormal counter reaction. Well done team.

  • haile

    Selamat all,

    The Eritrean regime is attempting to play its tired old game of hijack and abuse tactics for political gains. It is calling its YPFDJ instruments to the memorial service to be held on Monday in Italy, to make the case that the USA has killed the victims and “it” is protecting them! I hope Eritreans in Italy and near by places make a stand and foil this latest ploy, even if it would serve no purpose for it any way.


  • haile

    Selamat AT

    A great summary analysis of where things are at! Good job. I will hold off my observations on YPFDJ, as it would be the backdrop of my discussion with Nitricc in M.J. We will look into the reasons why that organization was set up to begin with, what its purpose has been so far and what impact it would have in the bigger scheme of things so to speak.

    As to Lampedusa, it sure is a major event that would hasten the fall of the regime. I would like to use the analogy of a fall suffered by two different individuals in the same place and manner. Suppose the first individual is young strong and resilient and the second individual is weak, old and frail. The same fall could mean another normal occurrence in a day of a hyperactive kid who would recover in no time. However, the same fall could easily mean a misplaced hip, a fatally broken bone or major internal bleeding for the second individual.

    Lampedusa happened at the very weakest time of the regime. As it is well known, the regime had a desperately busy year of launching investment drive, attempted coup, launching major homes for euros drive, free for all black market Forex proclamation, candid admission of everything is in tatters, unsolvable and deteriorating provision of water and electricity, mass influx of refugees, re-assignment and re-organization of mahber nobodies in Embatkala, unyielding rejection of international community, sanctions maintained and more threatens, exposure of UNSCSR for Hr and SEMG accusations of involvement with terror entities and the killing of civilians in Nairobi that saw the regime be mentioned in every news item…and comes Lampedusa that heralded not only many diasporians openly challenging the regime but the opposition and individuals opposing it have been shown to be in complete charge of the events!

    Against the above backdrop, Lampedusa is a major event that would hasten the fall of the illegal regime of IA. We can’t put things on a stop clock to determine the exact time of the big bang, but it sure is in the works.


    • Selam Haile,

      Could please tell Sal that as we are writing now thousands and thousands of citizens are mourning in the traditional tents in Eritrea. Can you please be honest on this… can you please tell him that no permission of any kind is required to plant a tent in Eritrea apart to the Municipality charge.

      Hailat, as you repeatedly said you are a frequent visitor of Eritrea. Have you ever asked to any security apparatus to drink tea with 7 or more friends, to conduct ceremony that needs 100s may be 1000s of people to gather.

      I wish Sal to Visit Godana Harnet during the independence day celebrations and to enjoy that spontaneous crowd of hundred or more people for a week long.

      And he condemn people for dancing in this or there… though every one is feeling saddened so far apart to the family no one has stopped doing his/her business. As we are speaking now people are mourning in Tiravolo very close to Expo in tents – this my account. And at the same time people are doing celebrations, weddings, birthday parties, and even night clubs. This is true for Eritreans everywhere in the world. Mourning doesn’t mean those live stop living. Relatives of the victims have already starting to work here in Europe – my account.

      And in Eritrea – Mourning goes as usual and life goes as usual. Seb yihazin, yixenana’e gudayu dima yigebir. You are not doing anything in here but your business Period!!

      • haile

        Selam Meron (anta diablos 🙂 )

        OK Meron, you’re both right in different ways:) the limit on size of gatherings is in force as it relates to spiritual services by minority faith groups. There are in deed many tents set up in Asmara since the past two weeks. There is also has been rife 03 that bodies were going to arrive. Any way, I didn’t want to discuss it further with people there because there are other considerations (this is not the medium).

        Meron, please don’t give us the “normalcy” perspective management:) Let me tell you blatantly, the regime knows 100% well and over that nothing is normal at the moment. Sal/AT may have acted on a past information in that particular matter, but how on earth would you find that to be the sole issue of focus, considering that there is mass influx of refugees, total chaos in the economy and people in Eritrea are COMPLETELY divorced from the regime. Lets address the issues here, namely, that of the internal and external implications at this precarious time.


        • saay

          selamat haile:

          Please tell Meron about the expression “mot Htsuy” (death of the fiance) and what it means. I don’t want to dance in his das… the opposition owns the agenda now, and we are done dancing to their hoarse tunes.

          By the way, have you seen this: This is a report on modern slavery.

          First a definition of “modern slavery:

          In 2013, modern slavery takes many forms, and is known by many names: slavery, forced labour or human trafficking. ‘Slavery’ refers to the condition of treating another person as if they were property – something to be bought, sold, traded or even destroyed. ‘Forced labour’ is a related but not identical concept, referring to work taken without consent, by threats or coercion. ‘Human trafficking’ is another related concept, referring to the process through which people are brought, through deception, threats or coercion, into slavery, forced labour or other forms of severe exploitation. Whatever term is used, the significant characteristic of all forms of modern slavery is that it involves one person depriving another people of their freedom: their freedom to leave one job for another, their freedom to leave one workplace for another, their freedom to control their own body.

          The report gives Eritrea an index of 15, but that is because it says that there are only 42,000 – 47,000 “modern slaves” and God knows where it got the data that Eritrea’s population is 6.1 million. But if you focus on its definition: “one person depriving another people of their freedom: their freedom to leave one job for another, their freedom to leave one workplace for another, their freedom to control their own body”, well, wouldn’t we say the whole population of Eritrea are “modern slaves”? Isn’t this a case of understating the numerator and overstating the denominator?


          • haile

            Selamat saay

            I will deliver your message, my workmen are currently drilling through Meron’s ears to gain access corridor for your message:) They’re reporting that it is heavily clogged 🙂

            Do you know the Tinglish for ‘index’, Me’Eyeri is what I heard, you got anything better 🙂

            When the regime tells you that standard indexing methodologies do not apply to its unique set of achievements (b’ahazat zeyE’yer), it is worryingly telling the truth – employment, economy, human resource, trade… are all offside (or fori joko – to borrow Kibrom Dafla’s) and IA is the only one playing for his side 🙂


        • Haile,

          I have to thank you for this, at least you tell the truth though conceitedly.

          I raised those two issues because I have read them several times from Saay. You Know Haile, amongst the bunch of people in here Saay has been remained a man of better reason for several years. In addition to that I feel he is almost the only person amongst a bunch of Ethiopians and Ethiopia Wannabe in here trying to maintain the Eritrean emotion. I have witnessed that few weeks back when he was debating against the same bunch of Ethiopians and Wannabes in here when you were almost absolutely silent (Ketibomuka diyom… hahaha).

          I can understand his silence on the sovereignty issue. You know, he is working with a person who silenced you on that subject once and for all. I may go to guess why is that silence or what kind of relationship this silence could have with the Zihla trips to Ethiopia and sovereignty issue less interviews the late PM…. No.. no.. let me not go far … I think ‘’ is number one in that list. Whatever it is I have to understand your problems or your business guys.

          Let me back to Saay. I know why he is infusing such fabricated lies here in the blog and their articles. That might be designed for foreigners or to those who have never set their foot in the country since long time ago. Or maybe he believes it as a founded truth after echoing it in one comment after another. To be honest it doesn’t make sense for those usually visit the country or new arrivals.

          My bottom line, it is really disappointing for me to see Saay – a man of reason and national passion (though it is always dough full till he speak for the sovereignty – people, territorial integrity and national mechanism) – perpetuating those cheap lies which much small than him.

          • haile


            Few corrections from my perspective:)

            1 – Territorial/Border issue: my interest for debating this issue WAS primarily with people who would volunteer to engage my questions on behalf of their organized opposition movement. There was no joy on that, although many individuals debated it with me in great depth, that wasn’t really my #1 target audience. You see, you somewhat have wrapped understanding of the issue, I fear, from a narrow political perspective. The issue is way too complex to be solely handled by ordinary citizens as you and me. eza adi nejew abla, afaln kab adi egele kndzi nabzi sheneKh, be’al ekele khe?, ezi’a haxira, ezia newiha is demarcation…too complicated for some, very straight forward for others, it is a crudely State to state engagement issue. IA bluntly told you “the border can be left as it is, it can take its time if need be, I can still purchase electricity from Ethiopia and engage in other complimentarity treaty.” However, you, Meron, have nothing to say to that! In fact, you couldn’t care less if IA was to tell you he thinks Gash barka should be given to Ethiopia. Why would you? You didn’t show an iota of concern for the one of the worst tragedy to befall our people, you are just scrambling to deflect attention from the perpetrator! You think Eritreans have hard time discerning that? Please, if you weren’t to be what you are, we wouldn’t have needed to struggle to remove the regime. You (meaning all those who take your position) are the reason for the elongation of the suffering of Eritreans.

            2 – In the past most of my arguments was with the opposition. What is there to argue with the regime? Have you ever argued with the regime? I have long cut my losses in that regard (wit the REGIME and not ERITREA, just in case you start to fiddle it again:) That has become irrelevant now because the organized opposition are doing the argument themselves, what is the point of me repeating after them? Besides, most of that happened in 2012 because in that year, a great many people were deserting the regime from the army, intelligence and economic spheres and the opposition was not taking advantage. Now, it is completely different ball game. The organized opposition can work out their own long term plans, there is no need for them to rush 🙂 things have moved on and the main thing is to overthrow IA by any means necessary and set up a transitional period by Eritreans in Eritrea and we hope to do all we can to assist that transition. No body is counting on any particular opposition group. The youth are organized under broad umbrella and things are moving fast.

            3 – When you claimed to saay that funerals and weddings are going side by side in Asmera, you forgot a couple of things. First, this is a national tragedy of epic proportions and second weddings at this time of the year are often put to T’rie (January) because that is the traditional month for doing so as well as there is a long fasting season that kicks in the month of Nov. and goes till almost end of Dec. and people don’t plan weddings in those times.


          • Haile,

            1. Don’t cheat your self there is nothing complex thing with the border issue. It is a legal issue and whatever complexity arises could be dealt through its mechanism. You are misrepresenting PA’s position on the border issue just to please yourself.

            2. I respect you choice to argue with the government or against any one of your choice. However, i can’t take you serious about the issues you talk like constitution, constitutionalism, governance, rights… since sovereignty is not a concern to you – for sovereignty is the mother of all other issues.

            3. I am telling you again as we are speaking now wedding ceremonies, Baptism ceremonies, birthday and … are going on along the mourning everywhere in the country. For your information, the days of conducting wedding ceremonies only on January has gone long time a go.

            Streets of Asmara are hosting lots of nigh club advertisement posters, Cinema posters, and other posters along side the ‘Merd’e’ of our deceased brothers.

            Hailat Everyone is doing his business. I have not even heard business – including Bars and nigh clubs – owned by Eritreans in the diaspora stopped they activity because of that tragic death.

            Above all is here for politics… it has not stopped its job. It rather is working hard at its best.

            The most amazing case is, it is pretending as it is mourning by the tragic case and at the same time celebrating the ‘Wedi Tikabo’s’ info…

            Guys you preach people to live the country, when they succeed you celebrate and when they drown in the see you accuse….. hypocrite


    as always you guys know how to write. wow fantastic article and based on facts. thank you for sharing.

  • TheTruth

    Do you honestly think the likes of awate will be accepted in a post-PFDJ era? The head may change but the system will be the same. We will make sure of it. You will never set foot in Eritrea.

    • Goitom

      Bakaaaa!!!!! n’sa iya kalie yebilkan: wey gado lomis gele kinsemie ina.

    • Kokhob Sekan

      dear the Truth, do you think the people have problems with men? we are after the system my friend. now do you think there is system in Eritrea? show me one. read the article my friend.

    • Awet

      Never set foot in Eritrea? Eritrea is their country what are you talking about? Unlike the currentpost-PFDJ era the regime and system will be inclusive of all Eritreans, including you.

    • TiETiE( Shiro bubble)

      you will never stop great minds. you will never redirect a wind – it will keep its direction all the way to its destination. You know what happened between 1998 – 2013.
      google, yahoo, youtube, twitter, facebook. Esayas cut press – he thought he has everything in control and NO one going TO speak or write though things burst like the wind that you can not redirect it. For Hgdef everything is cracking crumbling – stacking Debris over Debris over Hgdef no sight of ending. About 1&half decades I never thought I will have the chance to speak and attack my enemies Hgdef.
      You talking shortcut – shortcut attacks(Drbay, DenKoRo, KnReE’E Ena, Wedi Lemanit ) always seem answer but not. Aggressors, abusers, users always use shortcut insults.

    • Crocus

      You confuse “human beings” with “ideas”. Just curious, what do you mean by the likes of Awate? Good or bad, information and ideas can not be imprisoned. If you understand Awate as a forum and a vehicle of communication, then you would see its mission is to act like “irsho” (yeast). Even on people who resist change, ideas take hold. Thanks to forums like this, the ranks of the people who support tyrants dwindle. Rational people express rational thoughts, call out wrongs they see, and agitate for a better tomorrow. Unless you mean ideas “will never set foot in Eritrea,” which is an impossibility, your statement makes no sense.

      • TiETiE( Shiro bubble)

        Not. Systematically you trying to put me down. yours is the one has senseless statements. Because you do not know me, I am not confused. shortcut attacks, insults never help.

        • Crocus

          @TiETiE(Shiro bubble)

          I do not know if your remarks were directed at me. I apologize if you thought my comment was directed at you. My comment was to statements made by “TheTruth” above.