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Eritrea’s Bittersweet Memory of A 30-Year Struggle

Eritrea has bittersweet memory of a 30-year struggle that was eked out by the botched 30-years of Governance. 

In 1935, little did Italy know that its decision to invade Ethiopia would lead to a World War II. Little did Italy know, too, that the Eritrean Askaris it hired to do the invasion of Ethiopia would also abandon it at the first opportune moment. In fact, that’s exactly what the Askaris did when Great Britain and its allies dropped leaflets informing them that King Haile Selassie was back in power and the Askaris should switch their allegiance. Not only the WWII started in 1935, but also 5 years later, the defeat of Italy by the British, Free French, and Belgian Forces heralded the winning and reversing the turn of events in favor of the Allies resulting in the liberation of Eritrea and Ethiopia from the yoke and arrow of fascism.

King Haile Selassie of Ethiopia missed a huge opportunity to correct the trajectory of Ethiopia’s historical path by becoming a leader who had the power to introduce rudimentary democratic projects. What he did instead was annex Eritrea by the classic methods of divide and conquer. Alas, the Ethiopian army that deposed the King, too, missed its opportunity by choosing violent confrontation on the question of Eritrea instead of reconciliation. After all, Eritrean Fronts, and Tigray Fronts, and the Ethiopian Derg under Mengistu Hailemariam were all in the same political and ideological alleyway. The latter may have left Asmara University open, but it was emptying Eritrea of its youth who were supposed to attend it.

The aftermath of WWII brought forth clear winners: the USA and its Western allies, save the Nazi Germany as the leader of the power axis, on whose side were Japan and Italy. The USA and its allies were becoming confident of their political and military supremacy to a point that the surrendering countries like Germany and Japan became beneficiaries of such confidence. The Marshall Plan would bring back these two defeated countries from the ashes of the war to become two exemplary countries who would put their economic house in order. Meanwhile, the Cold War was afoot in which The Soviet Union and the USA became ideological rivals to a point of wanting to dominate the world to their sphere of influence. Out of this intense competition came technological advancement.

In 1961, The Soviet Union became the first country to send a man – Yuri Gagarin – to space orbiting the earth. Thus, the race to space had begun in earnest between the Soviet Union and the United States. In the immediate aftermath of WWII, the influence of the U.S. and its allies in the world had firm grounding, whatever the U.S. says goes and so it went. Thus, Eritrea, it was determined, couldn’t be granted its independence as a former colony of the then firmly defeated Fascist Italy. For some indecipherable political reasoning, the two former Italian colonies, Libya and Somalia, were granted their independence but not Eritrea. Thus, in 1961, in defiance to such a determination, in the corridors of the Red Sea, Eritreans started a revolutionary war of independence that took thirty long years to accomplish. However, another thirty years has passed since Eritrea’s independence, and the country continues to be in one war footing after another to this day. This enigmatic Red Sea nation has a very complex history, history that requires a great deal of historical and contextual synthesis to comprehend it thoroughly.

Therefore, instead of a lament, how about resorting to the world of optics; carefully selecting two video clips that can help in the much-needed understanding of the how and why The Horn of Africa continues to dive into an endless turmoil after turmoil? Granted, before the bittersweet memory of the thirty years could be savored, the memory of the botched subsequent thirty years of poor governance is replacing it. Fighting against such fresh memory is a challenge that continues to eke out the worse in Eritreans. A little highlight about the clips.

The first: A French politician, a minister, a traveler, a writer, and a member of the French academy, Jean Francois Deniau (JFD) lends a much-needed foreign voice to Eritrea’s cause for independence. This rigorously researched documentary deals with an expansive history and politics of the region and the role Europeans played in the process of problematizing it to suit their post-colonial ambitions. More importantly though, the documentary contains rare footage and historical images; interviews of revolutionary combatants of all generations including that of the pioneers of the struggle; civilians who enlisted to become part of Italy’s colonial ambitions when it invaded Ethiopia. They give firsthand account interviews; many had already reached the octogenarian phase by the time of the interviewing. In this documentary the viewer will hear the rare voice of civilian Eritrean mothers and fathers whose sons and daughters went on to fight for independence. Some voices of dignitaries are also included in this documentary. It’s a massively important historical and political voice that gives an expansively complex picture of Eritrea and The Horn of Africa.

The second: This comprises a two-part interview, a direct account of the then young combatant (Lingo) who joined the protracted struggle by putting his life and his youth on the line to the wheel of the revolution at a very critical junction in the journey toward independence of Eritrea. He becomes the voice, the narrator of Eritrea’s struggle, a bridge between the people of Eritrea in Diaspora and those who are fighting in the fields of Eritrea to bring independence. His eloquence captivates Eritreans in a rapturous fixation in Bologna, in the United States, in the world. So, get a tea in a kettle, coffee, or whatever drink you fancy, sit back, and plan to spend three hours of your time to watch these video clips, your assumptions will be challenged, any assumptions you may have had before about Eritrea, the region, and the Superpowers. You won’t be disappointed.

Links:
1-The Documentary
2-The Interviews–PART 1   and   PART 2

About Beyan Negash

Activist, a writer and a doctoral candidate (ABD) in Language, Literacy, and Culture at New Mexico State University (NMSU). Beyan holds a bachelor of arts in English and a master of arts in TESOL from NMSU as well as a bachelor of arts in Anthropology from UCLA. His research interests are on colonial discourse and post-colonial theories and their hegemonic impact on patriarchy, cultural identity, literacy development, language acquisition as well as curriculum & citizenship. The geopolitics of the Horn of Africa interests Beyan greatly. His writings tend to focus on Eritrea and Ethiopia. Beyan has been writing opinion pieces at awate.com since its inception (1 September 2001).

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  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ኣነ ድየ ተጋግየስ ዋላ
    ኣለዋ ክልተ አረትራ?

    ግር ክብለኒ ጀሚሩ
    ከመይ ‘ሉ
    ዝተፈላለየ ሕብሩ
    ንለኽያ ንኤረትራ
    ስለዚ መታን ክሪኣ
    ደይብኩ ጎቦ እምባ-ሶይራ
    የዒንተይ ጀመራ
    ናብ ኩሉ መኣዝን ክኾላ
    ይሐ……ው! ‘ንታይ ዝበለ ቑሪ

    ዘመናዊ ክሻፋ ተሓንጊጠ
    መጀመርታ ንምብራቕ ጠሚተ
    ሓባጥ ጎባጥ መሬት ስጋዕ ፎሮ
    ለም ዝበለ ባሕሪ ኣብ ቅድመይ
    ሰናይ መዓልቲ ግመ ዘይነበሮ

    ምልስ
    ናብ ምዕራብ ገጸይ
    ጎቦ-ብጎቦ ኣብ ቅድመይ
    ተዘርጊሑ

    እምባ ሳይም እምባ ዘርኡ ሞሲ
    እምባ ታሪኻ
    ምስ ጎብለል እምባ መጠራ
    ንታሪኻዊት ከተማ ሰንዓፈ ከቢቦማ
    ለም ዝበለ ጎልጎል ሃዘሞ
    ብልጭ ብልጭ ክብል
    ሩባ ሰመሞ
    ሓምላይ መሬት ዳዕሮ ኹንዓት ዝጠዓሞ
    ይመስል

    ክሻፋይ ንየማን ምሰ’በልኩ
    ጎቦ ዓዲ ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ ምስረኣኹ
    ምዕሩግ መርዓዊ ጎቦ ድማ በልኩ
    ትኽ ዝበሉ ዝተጸርቡ የእማናት
    ኣየ መትከል ኤኮ!
    ከም ፕሮፌሰር ኣምኑኤል ሕድራት
    ክብል ሓሰብኩ
    ምግናን ኣይኮነን

    ስሕብ ኣበልኩዋ ክሻፋይ
    ናብ ሽከቲ ናብ መንጉዳ ገጸይ
    ደው በልኩ ብሃንደበት
    ዘከርኩ ውሑዳት ስድራቤት
    ፍቕሪ ዝለገሱለይ
    ክመላለስ ከለኹ
    ናብ ዓዶምዞማት ገጸይ
    ዓመታዊ ንግደት!

    ይቕጽል

    ዙራ ንሃገርካ ክገብር ክፍትን’የ ‘ንተተኻኢሉ ማለት’ዩ።

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear Brother MM,

      Please continue.

      KS,,

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      ሰላም መሃንድሳይ,

      ምጽራብ ዘየድልዮ ኣእማን ጎቦታት ደቂጽንዓይ ትፈልጦ ኢኻ እምበኣር? ጨለ ዝሓወይ ሳላ ገድሊ ኤርትራ ዳርጋ ኹሉ ኤርትራ ዝበጻሕካዮ ኢኻ ትመስል:: እታ ሓንቲ ካብ ቃልስና ዓባይ ትምህርቲ ዝረኸብክዋ እንተልያ: ነተን እምነ መሰረት ዝኾና ሕብረ-ብሄራትና ብግቡእ ክፈልጠን በቂዔ:: በልስከ እቲ ጀሚርካዮ ዘለኻ እዶት ኤርትራ ቀጽሎ ኢኻ:: ነቲ ገጻትን መልከዓትን ኤርትራና ብግጥሚ ገይርካ አንጸባርቆ::

      ዝፈትወካ ሓውኻ

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        It is an honor, Prof. Emma!
        ደቂጽንዓይ is my kids uncles village.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Megabdsay,

          Are you kidding me? May be we have blood relationship then. Berhe also surprised me the same thing few years ago. ከምዚ ክረኽቡ ኸለው’ዮም ረጎደ ዝብሉ ኣቦታትና::

          Regard

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ናይ በሓቂ ረጎደ; ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ!
            እወ: ‘ዝክር ‘የ ናይ በርሀ። ብውሽጠይ ኣዝማድ ክንከውን ንኽእል ‘ና ይብል ኔረ 🙂

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላማት

      ጎቦ ደቂ ጽንዓይ
      ቁሩብ ተሪራትኒ
      ‘ቲ ግሩም መልክዓ
      ኣደናጊሩኒ
      መቸም
      ከምዘይድየብ የለን
      ኣብ በሪኽ በጺሐ

      ክጥምት ጀሚረ ኣብ ቅድመይ ዘሎ
      ደሓን ኣይትእቶ ዓዲ-ሃሎ
      ሸፈፍ ኢለ ሓሊፈያ
      ብሰንኪ ዝተረገም
      የዒንተይ ዓረፋ ኣብ ድባርዋ
      ቀጸላ ናብ ደቀምሓረ ማይ ዕዳጋ
      ምልስ ደኣ በልኩ ከመቕጽበት

      እምኒ ጸሊም ተራ እምኒ
      ሸኻ ወዲ ብስራት ዓዲ ወግሪ
      ዓዲ ሞንጎቲ
      እህም በልኩ ንጀነራል ቢተው
      ዘኪረ
      ኣብዚ ምሩጽ ጎቦ ኮፍ ኢለ
      ኢድካ ኣይረኸብካን ቢተው! ድማ ኢለ
      ‘ንዳስተማስልኩ

      እግሪ መኸል ዓዲ ሕርዋ
      ዓዲ ‘ልገሰ ዳዕሮ ቅኑዓት
      ጉንደት ዓይላ
      ጥምዝዝ ደቡባው ምዕራብ

      ኹሕሊ ዝብኢ ዓዲ ቐጢና
      ማይ ጋርዛ
      ዓዲ ስምኦን ሸለው
      ንምዕራብ ናብ ዓረዛ
      ዓዲ ተዃሉ ሰፍኣ
      ንየማን ጥምዝዝ ናብ ሓበላ
      ‘ዛይ ናይ ሎሚ
      ኣብዚኣ ትእከላ

      ይቕጽል

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear Amde and all,

    Here is one new song to remind the kind Amde and all, Enjoy it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n8jbySLYk4

    KS,,

    • Abi

      Kokobe
      Thank you very much for the song with a powerful message. The original song was as old as Ethiopia herself:)
      Here is a star studded music that you will definitely enjoy.
      The backup singers are actors from the old movie “ Romancing The Stone “.
      It has been a beautiful weekend at our nation.
      https://youtu.be/-n3sUWR4FV4

      • Amde

        Abi,

        How in the world did I miss this gem?

        “Romancing the Stone” was one of my absolute favorite movies many many moons ago..

        • Abi

          አምዳችን
          You missed the gem because they found it:)
          It was my favorite movie when I was romancing:)

          • Amde

            Lol…Ras Abi

            Ay yenie neger

            Now pray tell – were you romancing a stone that you chose to actually pay attention to the movie instead and tell if they had indeed found the stone?

            gmgema yemiyasfelgew neger new.

          • Abi

            አምዳችን
            በለፈለፍኩ ጉድ ሆንኩ!
            I haven’t paid attention to the movie at all. I wasn’t even watching the screen. Are you kidding me!
            ምነው ባታስለፈልፈኝ!

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Amde,

            What is that? I did not be able to open it. Can you check?

            Thank you Amde.

            KS,,

          • Amde

            Dear KS,

            I think you may have misunderstood because i had not sent a link.

            But now that you mention it, here is a beautiful piece by the women singers about women.

            https://youtu.be/GtTibM0mZQU

            Amde

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Amde,

            That was heart touching and beautiful.

            KS,,

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Amde
            Beautiful and powerful piece, I wonder if this kind of music can be used to deter the atrocities on women back home. Besides, the Tigray, I have seen what young ladies were going through in Addis, especially, at high schools .

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Abi,

        Very nice romantic song of Billy Ocean.

        Billy Ocean – When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going (Official Video)

        Thank y0u Abi.

        KS,,

        • Abi

          Kokobe
          Glad you enjoyed the Legendary singer.

    • Amde

      Selam Kokhob

      What a wonderful old AND new song!!

      So many new singers and songs hard to keep up.

      I like how he worked in references to the social media age into this old classic.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ሃለው ርሻን
    ኣደ ምኽሻን
    በዓልቲ ጽቡቓት ሽፎን
    ተር ከም ዓተር ኣስናን

    ሃለው ሓዳስ
    ሎም ደኣ ኩሉ ዝበልክዮ የለን
    ኣምላኽ ተቐየሮ ሎምዘመን
    ንትስፎ!

    መስመር ቴለፎን ኣይነጸረን
    ደሃይ ዓዲ ከመይ ‘ሎ?

    ሓዳሰይ
    ከይንዛረብ ናፈራሕና
    ኡስ ከይንብል ከፊኡና
    ዓዲ ሕማቕ ኣሎ
    ጸገም በሎ!

    ጎደናታት ጸምዩ
    ገጽ ዜጋታት ጸምልዩ
    መናድቕ ገዛውትና በልዩ
    ጥዑም ወረ የብለይን ሓዳሰ ሓፍተይ

    ኣንቲ ርሻን ሓፍተይ
    ነዚ መንግስትና ዘይተምስግንዮ
    ዝኹሉ ዲጋታት ዝሰረሖ
    ሓደ ህዝቢ ሓደ ልቢ ዝገበሮ
    መን ደኣዩ ‘ሞ ከመስግኖ?

    ኣየ ሓዳስ ሓፍተይ
    ነቶም ክረምቲ መጺኹም ሸነን ትብሉ
    ኣብ ስቓይ ዘለዉ ሰብኩም ትድህሉ
    ድሕሪ ዝያራኹም
    ግምጥል ናብ ዓዲ ስደትኩም

    ዓዲ ሞይታ ‘ንከላ ማዕቢላ
    ርእሰ ከተማና ሰንኪላ
    ምስ ሃገረ ሰባት ተዳሪጋ

    ብዓይንኹም ሪኢኹም ኣይረኤናን
    ኣትሓሳስባኹም ኴኑ ቄናን
    ነዞም ኣብዚ ኴና
    ንሰቲ ዘለና ድከትና
    ጽቡቕ ኣለኹም ትበሉና
    ተዝጽብቕ ደኣ ኣብዚኣ
    ኮፍ ዘይትብሉ ምሳና
    ካብ ናብራ ዓዲ ጓና

    ቴለፎን ከይበዝሐኪ ግዳ ቻው! ቻው!
    እምበርዶ ሓዳስ ሓፍተይ ‘ያ

  • Aman Y.

    Selam all,
    I believe TPLF(Tigrayan People Liberation Liberation Front) has undergone a strategic retreat and will be a formidable force in the region . This is Looking at the TPLF situation from the perspective of the strategically executed retreat of EPLF.

    Terrence Lyons “After a war that included near victory in the mid-1970s … and a strategic retreat to a mountain redoubt in the far northwest, the Eritrean People’s Liberation Front (EPLF) defeated the Soviet-backed Ethiopian army and seized control of all of Eritrea in May 1991.”

    What say you?

    • Hashela

      Selam Aman Y.

      It is an apple–orange comparison.
      We were fighting for our independence. Representing less than 5% of Ethiopia‘s population, TPLF is fighting for the dominance of Ethiopia‘ politics, basically a continuation of the last 27 years, a bygone era. Now having irreversibly lost the war of dominance, TPLF is threatening with a separation of Tigray without clearly articulating it. It is an empty threat that is recognized as such by all participants.

      • Aman Y.

        Selam Hashela

        TPLF are fighting for their lives, which has made its purpose within short time. And I did not hear them saying they want to go back to Arat Kilo. Please listen to General Tsadkans interview.

        My comparison was in terms of the popular support they are getting from local and diaspora Tigrayans, the diplomacy achievement, the fire power balance and so on.

        How was it for the EPLF? Was it an apple-orange comparison?

        • Mez

          Good day Aman Y, and all
          1) The situation in tigray is changing very fast. In the past war months, the war looks stalled around central tigray. No western or northern boarder access, as Hashela, said further down.
          1.1) beyond making sure that the tigray population get humanitarian assistance at all times, The government and its allies have to open opportunities, at any cost, to allow farmers process their farm at this rainy season in a timely manner.
          2) now internal institutions are saying: in tigray, “Over 90% of the harvest was lost due to looting, burning, or other destruction, and that 80% of the livestock in the region were looted or slaughtered”.
          2.1) with that, upto 91% of the tigrian population needs food, or essential item, handout.
          2.1.1) under such tigray-wide emergency situation of hunger and potential famine, every warrying-political camp, have to think how to help the hungry tigrian people first.
          2.1.1.1) If I were a decision maker of tplf, I would stop the active war engagement: for immediate humanitarian supply road access
          2.1.2) from eritrean side the government of pia, in coordination with pmaa government, may will have to open up its ports and boarder points to transfer humanitarian supplies to tigray region.
          2.1.3) it is almost self explanatory to, provisionally or all together, stop war and focus on the unhinged passage and distribution of humanitarian item to the people at large–across tigray.
          3) As general tsadkan G, extensively explored, the war had totally shifted from his initially assumed goal.
          3.1) regarding what the future of this war holds, general Tsadtakan G was not that sure–albeit he prepared for what he assume would know well.

          Thanks

          • haileTG

            Greetings Mez,

            I agree a ceasefire by all parties is necessary to allow for humanitarian deliveries. Following that however, the invading Eritrean and Amhara forces should withdraw altogether and the Ethiopian government must enter into negotiations. In reality, it has been more of a terrorist and menace to the people of Tigray. Not the other way around.

            The TDF had shown it has capability to attack and retreat, in areas outside central Tigray, recently they had a lightening engagement in Amhara woreda and in border areas with Eritrea near Gerhu Sirnay.

            In reality, the TDF have bogged down both the Ethiopian and Eritrean forces, they have been exchanging hands, towns like Hawzien, with the Eritrean/Ethiopian forces. They have near 100% popular support among all Tigrayans at home and around the world and international opinion has taken them seriously for their relevance. No one listens to you if you have no power and influence on the ground, ask the Eritrean opposition.

            Unfortunately, the blind and self serving analysis given by the Ethiopian government (Eritrean regime is mostly tight lip) is proving repeated embarrassment, as it tends to be self contradictory including misleading the UN secretary General. TDF has preserved its fighting moral and capability and the Ethiopian government side is trying to win war of words to hoodwink public opinion. TDF has shown several new recruitment and top ranking army leaders. I am hearing wedi worede is next up for inteview. All the smoke screens is not helping the Ethiopian cause overall, as I said the invading forces must withdraw from Tigray and Ethiopian government must negotiate with the TPLF for lasting peace.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            This “ Lightning Attack “ ( መብረቃዊ ጥቃት) cheered by you, Awate’s finest and some gullible among the blind followers, brought the disgraced Tplf to its grave . It was rather a lightning retreat to the Dedebit caves.
            —There is no Amhara invading army in Tigray. The Mighty Amhara Forces are in their own land that have been illegally occupied by the disgraced Tplf thugs.
            — Eritrean army is not ambushing the humanitarian trucks
            — Eritrean army is not killing the current Tigray leadership in the hope of creating chaos.
            — There will never be a negotiation between the federal government and the dead and buried Tplf.
            — Despite your efforts to revive Tplf with a mouth-to- mouth CPR, Tplf is DEAD BIGLY!!!
            — I appreciate your tenacity despite you are almost always wrong when it comes to current situation in Ethiopia and the region at large.

          • haileTG

            YeTekeberu qurTegnaw Guad Abi,

            – My lightening attack was in reference to a small Amhara woreda and not the biggy you’re talking about.

            – Surprisingly, no battles have as yet been reported in and around Dedebit.

            – Why is Amhara liyu hail administrating Shire??

            – Woriduni! How can I give CPR beBrku lemitystenefsew woyanista?

            – Eritrean army is not killing the Tigray leadership on their side, but they wouldn’t hesitate to do so to the Tigray leadership on the other side. Whether they hope or not, that is creating chaos.

            – Eritrean army is not ambushing humanitarian trucks. Yes! We agree on something, but they are blocking entry to starving populations of ETHIOPIA. What do you say.

            – If you are convinced that TPLF is dead and buried, then Ethiopia needs to go to all nearest churches to exorcise the ganien/ghosts that are fighting in Tigray. Pointless to keep insulting US embassy staff who are busy processing DV-8 applicants in Addis.

            May I take the podium you afforded me to here by tell all near and far, Eritrean or others, that TPLF is not expecting of any support from anyone. They are politely telling everyone MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! They have already shown they can whither massive onslaught and hold their ground. The current lull in combat shows you that the momentum for initiative has been lost by the Ethiopian side. They should stop getting this reality wrong and get their behind to the negotiating table.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ወያኔ በሮኬት ያልተሳካለትን አንተ ወንድሜ በሳቅ ገደልከኝ!!!
            This is what you proudly , politely and of course, wrongly ( surprise! ) said regarding the weyanes holding their ground.
            “They have already shown they can whither massive onslaught and hold their ground.”
            ኃይልሽ they run 700 km in 14 days. Now that is a record faster than Paris -Dakar rally !!!
            Congratulations in achieving the seemingly impossible task!

            The rest of your comment, I need to come back later. I’m short of breath right now.

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Wendim Abiy,
            What the ever the distance and days it took, the peer and expert testimonies of todays court at the Awate jurisprudence have ruled it ,as a much needed, and strategically executed retreat, comparable to the EPLF’s.

          • Abi

            Aman Y
            በተከበረው አዋተ ፍርድ ቤት ከሳሽም ዳኛም መስካሪም ሆነህ አረፍከው!!
            ማፈግፈግና መፈርጠጥ ለየቅል ናቸው:: 700 ኪሎ ሜትር በሁለት ሳምንት መፈርጠጥ ከስልታዊ ማፈግፈግ እጅጉን ይለያል!!

          • Aman Y.

            እርሰንትዎ
            በይግባኝዎ መሰረት ጉዳዩ ወደ መሃል ችሎት ተሸጋግርዋል፤ነገርግን ከደቡብ ሆኖ ሰሜን መመስከር አጥብቆ የተከለከለ ነው።

          • haileTG

            Abichu,

            That is 50km per day or about 2km per hour or less than 7meters per minute! That is really slow walk! Again, the entire border of Ethio-Sudan is only 744km. Where did TPLF run to in 700km? That is far from Tigray.

            Grading

            Number sense: F
            Common Sense: F
            Humor Sense: A+ (don’t sacrifice yourself for a joke next time)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            እንደ አይጥ ከየጎሬው ተጎትተው የወጡት የወያኔ አመራሮች 700 ኪሎ ሜትር በእንብርክክ ( በአራት እግራቸው) እንደሄዱ ያስታውቃሉ::
            Don’t sacrifice your credibility defending the Tplf thugs.
            Effort A+
            Effectiveness F

            ወያኔ በሞተ በሰባት ወሩ
            የሚመለስ መስሎት ሊሰፍር ከመንበሩ
            ተገትሮ ቀረ ቀረ ኃይሌ መምህሩ
            ኧረ ግባ በሉት ሳይዘጋ በሩ!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Hailat-TG

            “If you are convinced that TPLF is dead and buried, then Ethiopia needs to go to all nearest churches to exorcise the ganien/ghosts that are fighting in Tigray. “

            This is quote of the day. Excellent statement for those who live on denials. Whatever the statistics of the the death incurred on the federal army and the Amara militia and Liyu hail, are sacrificed by the ghosts !

            Regard

          • Mez

            Dear Haile TG,

            1) I red what you said with great interest.
            2) My point is tigray is now in a state of hunger. There is an imminent famine unless all the actors in the war take this into account and act accordingly to allow food and essential items supply.
            2.1) What this for tplf meant is to stop war unconditionally and help feed their hungry people.
            2.2) the ethiopian and eritrean governments also cannot run away from primarily feeding the hungry.
            3) what Ras Abi said below, may beg you to differ and think.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            I don’t understand that you have a twisted idea about the war. Who is the invaders and collaborators of the invaders? Eritrea has invaded the Tigray region in collaboration with the central government and other forces. The Tigray government is defending themselves and their people. Instead asking the invaders to withdraw and allow the international communities to have access to help the needy Tigrain people, you ask to the victim to stop defending themselves and their people. You comment is illogic and irrational to say the least. Come on man!

          • Mez

            Greetings Amanuel H,

            1) most likely i have a clear idea about the war in tigray.
            1.1) all things added up, we have to focus now on helping tigrian people; any actor shall focus on that.
            1.2) since tplf is in clear term saying i am the sole representative of tigray (which I assume he meant the tigray population at large), it have to be an example and show leadership–Allow humanitarian aid unconditionally.
            1.3) with an even more emphasis and empathy the ethiopian, eritrean governments have to focus lie 100% on avoiding this catastrophic hunger.

            thanks

          • haileTG

            Dear Mez,

            Loud and clear!

            To “stop war unconditionally and feed their hungry people” is what the international community is charging as using starvation as a weapon of war. It is a war crime under the IHL and universal declarations.

            Eritrea has no business feeding Ethiopians facing hunger (it can start at home). But it must allow unfettered access to humanitarian agencies. I understand the minor irritation this causes because it would expose the full extent of Eritrean presence in Tigray. True, it is a catch-22, refuse and get bombed or allow and get exposed! A tough one for them to chose from. Guad Abi is very impatient and emotional due to the slow progress in the northern front, I will try to calm him down with some bitter pills I have in the cupboard 🙂

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ኧረ እባክህ ወንድምዓለም አንዳንድ ጊዜ ተሳስተህም ቢሆን ስለ ቀድሞው ወያኔ ትክክለኛ ነገር ተናገር::

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-TG,

            The “negotiations” is more important to the central government than to the Tigray people and their government, if they want to keep Ethiopia intact. The Tigray people, no matter how tough the situation gets, they are looking other alternatives. And as you know there is no Ethiopia without Tigray and Tigray people. You remember even Abiy himself told to the Ethiopian people that Tigray and Tigray people are the Engine of Ethiopia. That is how I view negotiation vis-a-vis the antagonist forces.

            Regard

          • Hashela

            ከመይ ሐዲርካ አማኒኤል

            You keep repeating that TPLF is contemplating about another alternative. Can you please expand on that? If that ominous alternative is a separation, please entertain us by counting and listing what the loss for Ethiopia would be.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haw Hashela,

            Ditto: my reply to Brhan. The equation does not indicate the possible result yet.

          • Hashela

            Amanuel

            You are uncharacteristically tepid when it comes to explaining about the non-existing alternative.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Hashela,

            ዘይጸዓየ ብራሕ እንታይ ትገብሮ? There are many indicators that hinted other options. When they are preoccupied to defend themselves and their people, the secondary issue we are veering to talk about can not be seen clear as crystal. I don’t debate on speculation. But if I were Tigrain, after all this enmity and ethnic cleansing, I would have advocated self-determination through referendum. How about now?

            Regard

          • Hashela

            ግርም

            እወ እታ ቶፋ ትሕቆን እያ ደላ።
            ግን፣ ጸባ ዕባራ ጤል ሓቁንካ ትረኽቦ ልኻይ ንእሽቶ እዩ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Hashela,

            I don’t visualize “ዕባራ ጤል” rather I do visualize ዝሃጠረት ላም ናይ ስታላ, the cow I use to see it in Hal-hale, during my student picnic. Very sad our views repel each other.

            Regard

          • Hashela

            ሐው አማኒል

            If you remove your rosy sun glasses, you will see a significant convergence of our vision and perception of reality.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hadhela,

            I have many glasses. I have already checked them, and none of them gave me any match, be it a vision or conceptual understanding or perceptional outlook on various issues. Take it for grant that our horns are locked at each other every time and everywhere.

            Regards

          • Hashela

            በል ካብ አዛብእ አድሕነና።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Hashela,

            Aha, ናይ ዝብኢ ጉዳይ ካብ አምጻእካ: ኣብ ሜዳ ዘጋጠመኒ ሽግር ከካፍለካ ፍቀደለይ:: አነ ምሽ ሽዱሽተ ቡጾተይ ንፍሉይ ስራሕ ካብ ሕብረተ-ሰብኣዊ ቤት ጽሕፈት ንሳሕል ንለኣኽ:: ስራሕና ፈጺምና ንባርካ ክንምለስ ከለና: ኣብ ከባቢ ሰዓት ዓስርተ ናይ ለይቲ ይኸውን ብጥቃ አቁርደት ንሓልፍ ነይርና:: ኣብቲ ግዜ’ቲ ክሸይን ደልየ ነታ ምሳይ ዝነበረት ብረት ንሓደ ካብቶም ብጾት ይህቦ’ሞ ክሸይን የላግስ:: ብጾተይ ይጽበዩኒ አለው ኢለ ሸይነ ይበገስሞ ብጾት ትመስክር:: ሕጂ ይጓዓዝ ይጓዓዝ’ሞ: ኣብ ጥቃ ሓንቲ ዓዲ: ኣብ ትሕቲ ዓባይ ኦም ቁሩብ ደቂሰ ጉዕዞይ ክቅጽል መደብኩ:: መዓት ኣዛብእ ኣብቲ ከባቢ ዓዲ ክንቅው ይሓድሩ:: ኣብ ከባቢ ሰዓት አርባዕተ ይኸውን ክልተ ካብኦም ናብታ ዓሪፈለ ዘለኹ ገረብ ይመጹ:: ሽዑ ወርሒ ኳዕ ኢላ ኣብ ትሕቲ ድነ ናይታ ገረብ ሰለዝነበርኩ: ነታ ድነ ሁም-ሁም እንዳበሉ ሸንኮለል ክብሉ: አነ ኸአ ብፍርሒ ምስኦም ሸንኮለል ክብል ሓዲረ:: ድሕሪ ክልተ ሰዓት ሸንኮለል ኣብ ከባቢ ሰዓት ሹዱሽተ ይኸውን ገዲፎምኒ መንገዶም ይቅጽሉ:: አነውን ንብጾተይ ከርክብ ንተኽረረት ይጓዓዝ: ኣብ ተኽረረት ከአ የርክቦም::

            Now, why I was afraid of them. ኣብ ሳሕል ኣብቲ ቦታ ዓስኪርናሉ ዝነበርና ካብ ተጋዳላይ ናይ ሕዝባዊ ሓይልታት (ቅድሚ ህግ ምፍጣራ) ሃዲሙ እንዳ አንቀጥቀጠ ናባና ይመጽእ:: እንታይ ኮይንካደአ ስጋዕ ክንዲዚ ተንቀጥቅጥ ንብሎ’ሞ: ሽዑ ንሱ እንታይብለና: ምስ ካልኣየይ ኢና ንሃድም ነይርና ናብዚ ክንመጾእ:: ኣብ ሓደ ሩባ ደቂስና ኸለና እቲ ዝብኢ ነቲ ብጻየይ ብኽሳዱ ዓትዒቶ ይሕዞሞ ዓዕ እንዳበለ ኸሎ ፈሪሔ ገዲፈዮ መጺኤ ይብለና:: ብሓቂ ኣዛብእ ኤርትራ ሬሳታት ምብላዕ ጀሚሮም ስለዝነበሩ ዘየፍርሕ ጉዳይ ኣይነበረን::

            Regards

          • Hashela

            ትርጉም ሐዘል፣ ጸቡቅ ተዘክሮ!

          • Barrole

            Selam Hashela,

            Glad to see you active again and contributing to interesting discussions.

            I would like to add some losses Ethiopia would face if Tigray separates from Ethiopia.

            1.) Domino effect
            It could spark a chain reaction that sparks the other kilils to push for separation as well. Ethiopia as we know it wouldn’t exist if that happens, and therefore would be a huge loss for Ethiopia.

            2.) Security
            If Tigray formed an own independent state it could pose a threat to Ethiopia and Eritrea and as such would be considered a loss for Ethiopia.

          • Hashela

            Selam Barrole

            The separation threat TPLF is employing should be seen as it is: it is the amorphous (undefined) “ሕንጉጉ” that people use to scare their kids until the latter realize the none existence of ሕንጉጉ.
            TPLF knows very well that their dusty little Killil can’t survive without the handout of the federal government.

          • Amde

            Selam Barrole,

            No.

            1) Ethiopia is more than the sum of its parts. It’s a system.
            2) It would be a loss for Ethiopia but it would be catastrophic for Tigray and Tigrayans.

            The end

          • Barrole

            Selam Amde & Hashela,

            1.a) If Ethiopia is more than the sum of its parts, like you’re suggesting, then surely you can admit it is a failed system?

            1.b) An independent and successful Tigray is a threat to Ethiopia as it will empower the other killils to separate and create their own state. Jawar is in jail for more reasons than he stand accused of. He is in jail because of being a threat to the federal government, a key component to disintegrate Ethiopia.

            @Hashela,

            The fertile ground was taken back, like you mentioned previously. It would be interesting to list possible ways for Tigray to be self-sustaining.

          • Amde

            Selam Barrole

            1a) No it is not a failed system. The POLITICAL system has dysfunctions for sure. Some for historical reason, and some due to the vagaries of the people ion the political class as a whole.

            1b) Explain to me again how we get to “independent” and “successful” before we get to being a “threat” that “others” want to emulate. There’s a chain of assumption in your thinking that are simply suppositions. This only works if you are buying this fairy tale that Ethiopia is no more than an Amhara plot, who control everything and everybody else can’t wait to get out. This is simply not true.

            Jawar is in prison because he is a maniac. He was a bright demagogue whose goal was Oromo supremacy in Ethiopia – not Oromo independence FROM Ethiopia. Since he built his brand as being this great liberator, he should logically have been calling for Oromo independence. But no he said explicitly that Oromos are better off in Ethiopia.

            He was forthright in following a supremacist agenda instead. That included raising mobs to torch down cities.

            Amde

          • Desbele

            Selam Amde,

            Ethiopia a system ? May be a system of oppression. In hundreds years of its existence, it couldnt create a system people want to be part of. Time to let people go. They surely will join when the ‘Zeraf’ subside and civility take over.

          • Amde

            Selam Desbele,

            There is a definition of a system which posits “A system is not the sum of its parts but a product of their interactions”. Note well the arithmetically differentiated nouns “Sum” and “Product”.

            Do you think the current war is about secession and keeping people away from seceding?

            Even Weyane thought it was worth it to start a war to go sit at the throne in Arat Kilo.

            That’s why IA started the Badme war – it was to control the political and economic rewards of controlling the entity called Ethiopia. He really didn’t empower secessionist Ethiopian oppositions per se.

            That’s why it is a system – all the separated or putatively separating entities at the end of the day realize their worth is exponentially higher with some sort of integration.

            Amde

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hello Amde,
            Just curious, if it is a product, wouldn’t that make it zero?
            I meant, if Tigray is gone [which is zero], anything left x 0 would be Zero.
            With respect

          • Amde

            Hello Mehands,

            Ahh Good point…one can stretch the example only so far rhetorically.

            But the intent was to keep an eye on the interactions of the components when one thinks of a system, and not just have a catalogue of entities. Much like a person is not just a gathering of limbs, torso and head. A hand can be cut off but that does not kill a person.

            In any case, Tigray is part of the economic, cultural, etc systems of the current Ethiopia so a formal separation does not end those.

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Amde,

            What is catastrophic to Tigray and Tigray people is the current war that is directed at the civilian people, civilian properties, at higher institutes, hospitals, a crime of epic proportions. The educated class be it in the civilian services or in the ranks of the military service have grown exponentially. Their moral and determination to transform their state from the ashes of the war is amazing. The current destruction by their enemies gave them enormous stamina and spirit to work hard than ever to bring miraculous result on the ground. They just want peace and their own self-rule.

            Regard

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Amanuel,

            Sorry I meant to give you a longer response on the other thread.

            To be honest I think this war will end up being catastrophic for a lot of Tigrayans. I believe it was triggered by the TPLF for domestic political reasons. In any case, Mez’s suggestion for a cease-fire is also what I advocate, but I am also convinced TPLF wants the crisis to continue for its political purposes (i.e. redeem itself from its blunder) and military objectives (get Eritrean army pushed out to reduce it is military opponents to just the ENDF.

            The likelihood of a factionalized Tigray as a pawn of its much larger neighbors is much higher with it as an independent entity. That is what I alleged with the use of the word “catastrophic”.

            I will discuss later – probabaly tomorrow.

            Thanks,

            Amde

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Pro. Emma & all,
            Just curious that if Tigray becomes independent country, what would happen to Ethiopian history, without the Axumite Kingdom?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            If you read Barrole’s comment as a reply to Hashela, I will concur his assessment. There is no Ethiopia without Tigray and if Tigray goes its own way, then the Oromia and others will follow suite. The current crises is not about TPLF, it is about ethnic cleansing against the Tigray people. The sad part of it, is the crimes is still continuing. If Ethiopia is going to be disintegrated, it is because of the arrogance of the Amara Elites. They want Unitary government. They are doing it by riding on the ambition of Abiy Ahmed, the pathological lair, to be the 7th king of Ethiopia.

            Regard

          • Amde

            Selam Amanuel,

            Hope you have been doing well.

            To be fair, Mehandesay’s question was about Ethiopian history, not about Ethiopia itself.

            There will be an Ethiopia without Tigray and “Oromia and the others” are not in Ethiopia because of Tigray.

            Tigray offered a National Narrative via Axum that the elites could use. It worked for a few centuries so not bad.

            The Oromo are not part of the Ethiopian state because of the Axum narrative. The qerro were not in uprising to maintain the Axum narrative – they were rebelling against the hegemonic rule of TPLF which was of two minds whether to lean on the Axum narrative anyway.

            States do not fall just because a Narrative changes.

            Elites can and constantly do create new narratives. The ones that get traction get to survive and live on.

            This notion of “Ethiopia will be nothing without Tigray” is a dangerous propaganda – dangerous to feed Tigrayans this view that they can sacrifice anything and everything because a “total annihilation” of the enemy is at hand.

            We grew up being told Eritrea was existential issue for Ethiopia and in the end it turned out that while painful, people shrugged their shoulders and accepted it, and the elites of the time shrugged their shoulders and cobbled another narrative that they felt they could use.

            A Tigray exit will most likely be followed with exactly that, except that now we will have yet another dysfunctional one party dictatorship state which will justify its own people’s oppression on the vagaries of all the assorted enemies to the north, south, east and west.

            Amde

          • Abi

            ዓምደብርሃን
            እባክህ በሣምንት አንድ ቀን ብቅ እያልክ እውቀት ለተጠሙና በጭለማ ለሚደናበሩ ምሁራን መብራት ሁንላቸው::
            ብቻዬን አልቻልኩም:)

          • Amde

            Haha Ras Abi,

            erswo yemayclut neger mn ale blew new?

            ahun hdasE terbayn eyetegeTeme slehone, mebratm saynoreN ayqerm.

            beqa bqbq elalehu getoch..

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Amde ,

            Is that our awate participant? Most Welcome and stay here.Your present is needed very much.

            KS,,

          • Amde

            Selam kohkobe

            Yes. Hope you are doing well.

            I will try to pop in once in a while.

          • Abi

            አምዳችን
            እንዲህ ነው እንጂ ልጅ አምዴ!!!
            ይምጡልኝ!! ይምጡባቸው!!!

          • haileTG

            Dear Amde, so great to see you around! I was getting to say hello to you earlier but you were talking something fishy with Abi about sid nbab and I run back out quickly:-)

          • Amde

            Dear HaileTG,

            Hahaha..

            That is why you are a much classier person than I can ever hope to be…

            Thank you for the welcome.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Amde,

            Welcome back my friend. Good to see you back. No matter how diverged views we could have on Ethiopian politics, I honestly enjoy your decency and your matured engagement. You are one from the few we can learn something.

            Now, to your point. I think “Ethiopia” and “Ethiopian history” are interrelated and interconnected, that one can not be defined or explained without the other. So If we agree with that premises. The history of Ethiopia will exist with the existence of Ethiopia itself. If the current Ethiopia transformed to different entities (say for instance like Yugoslavia) the Ethiopian history that we know ends with the disappearance of Ethiopia. The history of Yugoslavia or Soviet Union is relegated to legendary history that has no relevance to modern history of nations.

            Second, you are right “ Elites can and constantly do create new narratives. The ones that get traction get to survive and live on.” But Elites don’t create narratives without a cause – a cause that has not inherently married with the interest of the public – in our case with the interest of their social groups. Take for instance the Tigray elites will create a new narrative based on the ethnic cleansing that has befallen to their own people. No surprise if it happens.

            Third, don’t underestimate the scar and the death of the civilians with unprecedented crime of inhumanity witnessed by the international communities and international media. To be frank, the allied forces haven’t done any remarkable damage to the Tigray government – a force to reckon. Tragically, the are killing the young Tigrains wherever they found them in their towns, cities, villages doing their routine lives, gang rapping girls and women married and unmarried, like animals. All their hospitals, universities, industries, individuals properties, are looted and destroyed purposely. They are hindering aids and blocking farmers to do their farming – purposely to kill them by starvation. My friend this is not propaganda.

            As to what the Tigray people will do after coming out from the ashes of this conspiratorial war by Abiy and his allies, I will leave it for them to decide their fate.

            Good to see you again.

            Regard

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother MM,

            Till Pro Emma answet to you, I think nothing will be there except Ethiopia will be dismantled as I said it from the early days this tragic war. End of the story for IA dreamed and for the last years,

            KS,

          • Amde

            Selam Mez,

            I actually signed in to upvote your comments.

            What can be done about the last mile problem? There are large shelters/camps/feeding centers hurriedly being built via the Government and UN throughout Tigray now in anticipation of famine but as you can imagine those will cover more of the urbanized population and those that are closer to the road network.

            I am afraid the death of many tens of thousands who cannot access these camps is already baked in.

          • Hashela

            Selam Mez et al

            I agree, Eritrea should allow food aid to come through its ports and territories even though Getachew Reda will be the first to show up to the food distribution center.

          • Abi

            አምዳችን
            የመብራቱ ምሰሶ ተነቅሎ ጨለማ ውጦን ከረምን!!
            ምነው እንዲህ ጨከንክ?

          • Mez

            Good Day and welcome Amde,

            you stated: “I am afraid the death of many tens of thousands
            who cannot access these camps is already baked in”.
            1) Yes, that is a big hovering danger.
            1.1) if you further add the non-availability of vital road-network to a lot of woredas in tigray, the problem becomes compounded—that without any security concern.
            2) especially those tigtiy residents, removed from occupied eritrean territories will be the worst affected; I guess they have to be resettled somewhere—or else they may have to accept an eritrean citizenship and pay tax accordingly.
            3) the key question especially for tplf shall be: if tplf is fighting for the people and the people are about to die in such an agonizing way, what will tplf have achieved tomorrow?
            3.1) inherently, there is a strong resentment against the tplf that—in all its past history—it was riding the wave of extreme/perpetual poverty, destitution in tigray, and animosity against the amhara, and pia.

            PS: Regarding Tsadkan’s interview, I assume like 95% of it to be more of truthful and the rest creative nonsense. The length, breadth, and depth of the interview makes it a suspect–probably there may be something shocking within the tplf–as a sort of cover-up.
            thanks

          • Amde

            Hi Mez,

            “3) the key question especially for tplf shall be: if tplf is fighting for the people and the people are about to die in such an agonizing way, what will tplf have achieved tomorrow?”

            I agree – that is part of the reason I argue Tigrayans need to look at TPLF as an entity that has its own self-interest above and beyond that of the general welfare of the people.

            There are many vested in building the myth of a Tigray that suffered and yet survived many depravations, and sometimes I wonder if for them this mythology for the future is more important than the living breathing person today. “I know you will die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to take”

            A ceasefire would be good to at least give the people breathing room.

            Amde

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hashela,

        Could you please read Aman’s comment and your response to him again and again and again.

        Aman is talking about the similarities of the strategic retreat of the two organizations. And he closed his statements by asking his question to the formers, what could you say? On the other hand, your response is about the cause of their fighting and their dreams. What has your response do with his question?

        Unfortunately, your response appears to be the same to any questions related to TPLF, in spite……..

        This is simply to remind you that your comment has nothing to do to Aman’s comment and question.

        Regards

    • Brhan

      Hello Aman Y.,

      Although there are similarities and differences in comparing the strategic retreat of EPLF, and TPLF, now TDF, I have found both of them to be an asset to the later.
      Similarities:
      1.Like EPLF, TDF is gaining broad support from its people resisting A. Ahmed gov’t and his allies, the Eritrean troops, and Amhar militias.
      2. Like EPLF, TDF is fighting in its own land
      Differences
      1.The civilized world, North America and Europe are pressuring Ethiopia. Add to that with US impact, wealthy Arab countries, like the United Arab Emirates, are now saying they are ready to work with the US. EPLF hardly found this kind of opportunity.
      2. Ethiopia’s situation now is different from that of the mid-70s, where the Derg was able to control with iron fist south, east, and west of Ethiopia. Today, these areas are tickling like a time bomb and are not leading to the destruction of A. Ahmed Ali’s gov’t but the country itself.
      The question is, considering the above components, what is the goal of TDF? TDF says referendum, and I think Ethiopia has become history to the majority of Tigryans? Remember that Ethiopia has not canceled Article 39 from its constitution. Will the US see treat as the Kosovo case or Somaliland.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Brhan,

        Your compare and contrast between the two organizations, regarding their retreat and the support of the public are well taken and noted. However, your question is difficult to predict as there many unknown factors that will play in the coming days and months. So it will premature to answer your question either way.

        Regard

        • Brhan

          Selam Brhan,
          I revised my comment and found that we can also see it in the context of Aman Y ‘s question.
          Here again the difference between the two EPLF/TDF can be on the issue of goal. The goal for our struggle was Independence. What is , TDF’s goal?. Is it looking to separate from Ethiopia through referendum? Or remain after all these 7 months of ethnic cleansing, war crimes and genocide? Will they become like the Tusi of Rwanda and make Ethiopia great again like what is Rwanda now?
          Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Brhan (ኩሉ-ብርሃን),

            My assessment right now: Their goal is all the way for statehood. It is a matter of priorities, setting one after the other. You play politics stage by stage with the international communities. Now it is either to stop the war by the intervention of the international communities or winning the war by themselves – a war of survival. No alternative for them. The second stage is, if the war stops, they engage to harvest the international humanitarian support to rehabilitate the Tigray people, and allow them start their routine of lives. While they are facilitating the second stage, they dispatch career diplomats to create a groundwork for the third stage – to convince the international communities to run a referendum akin to ours. We shall see how they will do convincingly. That is my two cents assessments until the unknown factors plays out.

            Regard

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Prof Emma/Brhan/KoKohbay and others,
            Before the end of the week, I am inviting you for this current song:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zTAtrmFIlE&list=RD0zTAtrmFIlE&start_radio=1

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Thank you Mehandsay!

          • Brhan

            መሃንድስ ነብሲ
            በል ኣነ’ውን ክጋብዝ ተሰሚዕካያ ደሓን ክትዝክራ

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XjNxogiGLg&list=RD0zTAtrmFIlE&index=2

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ብርሃን ነብሲ
            ዳርጋ ሓሙሽተ ግዜ ሰሚዐያ ኔረ። ሕጂ ድማ ተወሳኺ።
            ክብረት ንዓኻ!

          • Brhan

            Selam Proffessor Amanuel,
            Thanks for the compliment to the pen name. I have found the word in many languages : Tigrinya , Amharic and Tigre. I belive it is the same in Geez. In classical Arabic it means proof.

      • Aman Y.

        Hi Brhan,
        Indeed. Or may be the land locked Belarus.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ሓንቲ ኢደይ ካብ ታሓንቲ ሓጺራ
    ሓንቲ ዓይነይ ካብታ ሓንቲ ደቒቓ
    ይመስላ ዝነብራ ታሓንቲ ኣብ ዶብሓ
    ታሓንቲ ድማ ኣብ ሓይፋ

    ዘይተጸበኹዎ ብሃንደበት
    ሓንቲ ስነይ ሸሪፋ
    የእዛነይ ‘ውን ኣለወን ዘለፋ
    ጨጉሪ ርእሰይ በብሓደ ይሃፋ
    ሓንቲ ዘየስተማስለላ
    ኣፍንጫይ ተሪፋ
    ደሓን ትእቶ

    ሓደ ዓይነት ሳምና ይጥቀም
    ንገጸይ ክሓጽብ
    ንኹሉ ሕማመይ ሓደ ሓኪም
    ንኹሉ ጸገመይ
    ብማዓረ ይሓስብ
    ስለምንታይ ደኣ ዝኹሉ ፍልልይ
    ክሓቶ ዶ ን የማነ ህበይ
    ዶ ዋላስ ይሓይሽ
    ን ጎፋር ከልበይ
    ፍልልይ የብሉን

    እሞ
    ኤርትራ ከይሰጠመት ኣብ ባሕሪ
    ከይተጠብሰት ኣብ ናይ ብልጽግና ጓህሪ
    ሞት ዶ መግዛእቲ
    ኣይኒአን ትሓሪ
    ከይኮነ ትምርጫ

    ሕጂ ኣለኹ በል
    ተዘይኴኑ ድልው ‘ዩ ዘሎ
    እቲ ዓቢ ገበል
    ናይ ዓዲ ሃሎ
    ከም ቀደሙ

    N.B.: ሳባ downvote ምግባር ኣይትሕመቒ። ስለምንታይሲ ተረኛ ስለስኾንኪ። ኣይሕዘልክን 🙂

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear HaileTG and all,

    Now I heard the news from- aan- that is connected with all what we are talking about the red Sea. – ዞባ ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ፡ ስምብራት ክገድፉ ዝኽእሉ ጂኦ-ፖለቲካዊ ምዕባሌታት ቀረባ-መጻኢ-

    link is bellow, enjoy it ,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2k_q14mbqk&ab_channel=AANMEDIANETWORK

    KS,,

    • haileTG

      Kubur KS hawey!

      These guys are kolel melel. Medonqor hateta eyu.

      The UN, true or false, just warned that hundreds of thousands people could die. That is a big concern for the inl community, again be it accurate or not. It also says

      “Lowcock said all the blockages need to be rolled back and the Eritreans, “who are responsible for a lot of this need to withdraw”, so aid can get through to those facing famine.”

      Can we at least hear and see what is going on around us? Respectfully, their analysis sounds too laissez-faire vis a vis current events and too analyzed.

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother haile TG,

        Let others give their views. And wait for final.

        KS,,

      • Bayan Negash

        Selamat KS, haileTG, and all,

        haile TH, who are “These guys… kolel melee. Medonqor hateta” statement you started your response to KS with?

        KS, many thanks for sharing. I’ve been following antsar ametsh neqales (aan) since its inception, I believe around the Akhriya uprising when it came to the scene. I’ve seen aan get better and better content-wise and the way in which its stays topical is what I find very useful place to start. aan seems to be on top of what other Eritrean and Ethiopian media outlets are doing and saying. Do they make blunders? Sure they do. Overall though, I find their content worth spending my time for. Mateos Zelalem is particularly an intriguing figure who seems to know a great deal about our region.

        Awate forumers hope you have twenty minutes more to spare besides what KS shared, which I thought gives an excellent background to those who wish to have a better grasp of the Red Sea basin. Incidentally, the one I’m sharing speaks to “The Death of Expertise” based on a book that was published several years ago.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfiS289hTk

        The other clip I’d like to share is one done about five months ago by The Horn of Africa experts from the US, in which Ambassador Herman Cohen is the moderator. This one is about an hour long but well worth your while.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EzTaieoY3Q

        • haileTG

          Merhaba Bayan,

          As you may have noted, the thread to which KS was alluding by his entry was my topic about the Ethiopian Navy personnel’s interview. In regards to that the whole idea of the Road and Belt Chinese project is Kolel. Secondly, the war and instability in our region is not in response to any new strategic competitions among world powers. I argued that with Semere T some months ago. To contextualize the current ethnic and tribal conflicts in our region as such is Medonqor. As the program is presented in editorial format, I called it Hateta. Thus my quip that what they had was Kolel Melel Medonqor Hateta.

          In general, I agree about aan media and many other media in the opposition are doing good job. That of course doesn’t mean we agree with everything dished out. In this case their Hateta missed (IMO) by big margins to analyze the red sea situation from the perspective of local regional dynamics. Nothing personal, just found their analysis as such.

        • kokhob selamone2

          Dear Dr. Beyan and all,

          Thank you for the links. I am also following antsar ametsh neqales (aan). And now ነውጽታት ቀርኒ ኣፍሪቃ-is here just watch please.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gt4Ww-Tnnk

          Dear Brother MM, I have replied to you the question you asked sometime back, copy the link and you will listen almost the same.

          Dear Brhan, open the link the legend Osman Abrahim too. That is what you said in my Jebena page.

          All, please watch the link above.

          KS,,

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Awatista,

    Recently, a certain Ethiopian Navy commodore was interviewed and claimed that Ethiopia is ready to defend from invasion from the red sea coast. The idea is indeed strange. But, given the blunder of IA in Tigray and thus Eritrea’s invasion of sovereign country, it is now accused of using starvation and sexual violence as weapons of war. Yesterday, the UN rang the warning bell of “imminent famine” in Tigray. The warning has set global media alight and the frenzy continues. Eritrea is flagged out as the main culprit. If action is taken Eritrea, we know that under IA the country has nothing functional except an army. No institutions, industry, constitution, parliament, no cabinetof ministers… This context gives clue why Ethiopia is preparing a Navy as this is a key security concern of the major powers. What do you think.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat,

      Indeed it is a dangerous ploy of DIA to leave our nation in a continuous war footing by spewing enmity with our close ally – the Tigray people, who stood with us on our cause, from the inception of their struggle till these days from the mountains of Tigray, while they are fighting against their invaders and their internal foes. Except the Amara Key bahtachin, the rest Ethiopian people will stand with the people of Eritrea, once we foil the evil relationship of Abiy and DIA.

      Regard

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear Brother Haile TG,

      That is a dream. that will not be materialized, Most Ethiopians dream that dream and yes only leader that was convinced about the read sea was PM- Meles. He was the most respected leader that was leading Ethiopia. He forgot red sea and he build the the Blue Nile dam for the nations progress now it is compromised by this child Abiy …

      We Eritreans from all people should decide not PIA alone.

      KS,,

      • Abi

        Kokobe
        Calling the PM of a neighboring country “ childish “ doesn’t make you any wiser or mature.
        Meles was highly respected by the hallucinating bunch.

        • kokhob selamone2

          Dear Brother Abi,

          Not only me his own friend (IA) has also said he is like a child. What do you call him?

          KS,,

      • haileTG

        Dear brother KS,

        I know and share the feelings brother. But, I am talking on the practical case scenario. TPLF said its fall would be a dream, derg said Eritrea’s separation is a dream, just about everybody says change or loss is a dream. Confidence is good and useful. But do you see that Eritrea is stripped bare bone by IA and supporters making it easy to put its territory at risk? If IA goes by Eritrean initiative, I am sure we have a chance. But can you say that while IA has his knee on the neck of Eritrea and suffocating it to death?

        • kokhob selamone2

          Dear brother the great,

          I am sure he (The government ) cannot give an inch, From Eritrean land illegally. And the government without constitution is illegal as you had said it above…

          KS,,

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      You sound unusually depressed today.
      Here is “ My way “ by Sinatra/ Abiy:)
      You are welcome!!
      https://youtu.be/qQzdAsjWGPg

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother Abo,

        Nice, but I don’t know what our the great, Haile will say. I will wait to read,,

        KS,,

        • Abi

          Kokobe
          እንደገመትኩት ኃይላችን ትንሽ ሃዘን ተሰምቶታል:: የመረጥኩለት ዘፈን አላፅናናውም:: እስቲ በምታውቅበት አንድ የለቅሶ ሙሾ ጋብዘውና ትንሽ አስለቅሰው::
          በቋንቋችሁ አነጋግረው::

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear brother Abo,

            I prefer to do that, after he reply to you.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            ኃይላችን is too busy to respond to my zibazinke. He is on his way to ቀይ ባህር to evict the Ethiopian Navy all by himself!!
            ይቅናው ብለናል!!

      • haileTG

        selam wendime!

        yeferenjiw tikazie tewew check out Hussel and Motivate by our very own Nipsy. I won’t share it due to some strong words:)

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          የቀንየለይ ሓወይ
          ወዳጅ ለመቼ ነው?
          https://youtu.be/HyTpu6BmE88

          • kokhob selamone2

            Brother Abi,

            Thank you, for the song (Dionne Warwick – That’s What Friends Are For,,) I enjoy it ..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Glad you liked the legendary song by the legendary singers.
            I love them all.
            Elton John, Dionne Warwick, Gladys Knight, Steve Wonder.

  • said

    Greetings ,

    TPLF Inevitable failure?

    Several things are happening simultaneously. Ethiopia Most important, has lost the public opinion in much of the western world, through its brutality and mass-killing during the 7 month attack on Tigray and one sided slaughter in Tigray and six million are paying the price .Finely reached a tipping point . in which PMAA and DIA its has gone too far. This in turn has produced a storm of criticism. And condemning the bloodshed. Report is coming of about what is actually happening on the ground.
    Second PMAA has succeeded in alienating western world and United States, normally supporters of Ethiopia, and Ethiopia dependent on US subsidy for its continued existence , quite possibly leading to an eventual shift in policy in Congress and at the White House. Ethiopia will lose US support as the scale of its atrocities against Tigrayan become more and more visible
    Ethiopia throughout of its History and during King Haile Selassie ,fascist Mengistu, M. Zenawi ,the winner noble price of peace Abiy Ahmed , all their leaders committed crime, hardly surprising, Ethiopia which has always engaged in atrocities and massive violations of international laws and norms.

    Ethiopian shockingly dependent on foreign goodwill for its budget ,Some part of the multi-billion dollar US aid feeds into other parts of the Ethiopian economy. as well as for humanitarian and development needs ,Ethiopia aiding and abetting this state that is not a democracy. that exercises power brutally .With all aid support .Ethiopia remained one of the poorest countries in the world throughout the 30 years, it remains among the lowest-ranked countries on the UN’s Human Development Index today. PM MZ corrupt administration and institutional neglect helped set the stage for PMAA.

    That the truth is that the TPLF entity suffered a huge, humiliated, and defeated. The combat operations still going for 7 month. The Ethiopian army executed hundreds of artillery and airstrikes causing massive destruction in Tigray . How is it that TPLF was comprehensively defeated inside Tigray along with its political structure, TPLF armed forces, and security services.. The uncontested power of TPLF and good combat-capable “boots on the ground inside Tigray ”. That is now how modern wars are won .and TPLF much better armed than in the past.

    Yet if any of that was true, why has TPLF failed to achieve a single one of its goals? At least to protect Mekelle against a possible land invasion by Ethiopian army. And TPLF could not even control the small town located right across the official Tigray border!. So much for being “invincible”! and can’t deal with even its weakest, least sophisticated enemies and that it knows very well , that could not defend its self and create a “security zone,” for the population which is driving the Tigrayan into a state of panic and rage TPLF as losers with no credibility left. And that the TPLF cannot deal with any of its enemies is surprising . This is a major political defeat for TPLF. The inevitable failure , sad and disgusting reality and shameful

    TPLF its armed and security forces, I thought TPLF are rock solid and in charge of Tigray and that the TPLF are still invincible and were far more capable than they were before the war started in November 4 2020. which, admittedly ,TPLF started the war, by all accounts. The truth is that the TPLF is a poor fighting force was a disaster . Seeing their defeat in Tigray. I can not unpack this defeat of TPLF.

    TPLF revealed the absolute power of the 1991 as rebel junta, which has run the country despite the facade of a civilian transition in the name . Ethiopia was hope for to be a paragon of democratic virtue, following the 1991 that overthrew dictator Mengistu . PM MZ turning Ethiopia into a darling of the west Ethiopia politics was being built around Tigray ethnicism , clientelism, patronage networks withing ruling class. PM MZ hypocrisy and deeply deceptive, It has not worked, because it could never have worked.

    TPLF and Tigray is a major issue for Eritrean ,form its inception till today ,TPLF alliance with EPLF against ELF is well known for its original sin , TPLF a historical EPLF ally .This was alliance of two evil men I A and M Z mostly of their own making there are many other reason, for many Eritrean need to be very careful about Tigray political issue that keep evolving that brought Eritrea with it . It is up to Tigrayan internal matter to deal with Ethiopia and resolve the war .
    Long story short .TPLF kept IA bleeding till 2018 .There was a lot of enmity between I A and M Z and harsh words being tossed back and forth between them .And the script is not final for IA taking his revenge against TPLF. Both Eritrean and Tigrayan population paid heavy price from this two men . As saying goes What goes around has a nasty little tendency of coming back around again. Yesterday’s scary monster is tomorrow’s Camelot.

    TPLF did not have a concise politics at large . We live in uncertain times. A tumultuous era where Abiy government power, are crashing an old TPLF powers and its innocent people .
    As for Amhara people they are easily identify themselves with Ethiopians identity through many centuries . Put in a broader historical context, ( Ethiopian monarchy, elitism, feudalism history ,language ,religion, patriotism, nationalism past imperial nostalgia, ect) Honoring and celebrating Amhara history and symbols of imperial Ethiopia and the formation of the Ethiopia were almost all led by Amahar ruling class and still alive . Tigray is ambiguous role within Ethiopia union , its identity so wide and loose .

    Ethiopia is not a coherent nation state with a written constitution. ethnic group like Oromos, Tigrayan, Wolaytas, Gurages, Afar, Somalian and Siltes do not see themselves equally as Ethiopian first. Resentment ,Anger and Frustration from decades of dispossession, neglect and discrimination equality felt by many ethnic group – Tigrayan nationalist feel strongly they belongness is to Tigray first .

    TPLF did not appeals to all Ethiopians also equally , Tigrayan sow themselves part of marginalized ethnic group. And not part of multiethnic society, diversity and shared values . First Tigrayan adapted to this new political reality from day one and not Ethiopian first what ever that means, like Derg manifesto . it makes sense for the TPLF to consolidate their power base in Tigray . Status quo that many ethnic people in Ethiopia feel has not worked for them. And add to mix Christianity and Islam and host of other problem . The conditions that produce Derg and TPLF authoritarian regime are with us once again with PM AA at top.

    Sadly TPLF did not root for rule of law and principles and institutions central to a democracy. TPLF politics that was and did hide. in the shadows or margins of society and has become a governing principle of TPLF. TPLF reproducing echoes of the past. which simply emulate Ethiopian monarchy in one way or other ,PM MZ one man show at top like the Amahra king. untastable able above the law He never believed in independent of courts and independent media. Hollowed state. Viewed by Ethiopian not a force for good.

    TPLF ignored any notion of the civic imagination and the ideas, values, justices and institutions that connect it to an ongoing struggle over human rights, equality ,inclusiveness , social, political, and economic rights. That offer more than a glimmer of hope for the future, was not in table . And the abandonment of human rights, democratic institutions. Under such circumstances, while legitimizing and normalizing oppression , brutality and violence , it is crucial to understand how .TPLF reproduced manufactured ignorance, repression, amplified, and intensified .Not a different from past of historical era. PM AA is updated version of Ethiopian monarchy politics a history of repression.

    TPLF/ EPRDF rejects the most basic elements of democracy, which includes “theories and practices of modern democracies based on a recognition of a diversity of opinions, recourse to electoral procedures to determine a majority, and guarantee of the rights of the minority like Tigryan, Wolaytas, Gurages, Against democratic values and rights.

    When minority nationalities, .A massive uprising from below involving Oromo youth and Amahra protested, for good reason . TPLF security men and armed forces were quickly brought out and began shooting. justified their murderous crackdown, with the pretext that the protests were “a threat to national security. TPLF justified their murderous crackdown, with the well known pretext that the protests were “a threat to national security.” That was when TPLF down started, they refuse to listen .

    The ruling bloc TPLF/ EPRDF proposes fake election and to submit the public to the values of submission to the requirements of collective discipline and the authority of the supreme cult leader Former PM M Z, The situation deteriorated under his rule. HE did not shift toward parliamentary rule The all or nothing days, for some the truth is seldom all good or all bad — it is complex.

    As an orator, Now we have PMAA , has never been known for his clarity and It serves him to be opaque about where he really stands on politics and policies. and to unite a fledgling country, Abiy high talk of freedom and democracy, The PP campaign will only happening on one side and PP are laying the groundwork for what it claims is a necessary effort to puts Ethiopia governance on a path to success.
    Ethiopia currently is not debating constitutional reform. There are no regulations mandating the involvement of traditionally marginalized groups listed above. Who will mange the election and oversee the creation of a new constitution. Short of well known Legal experts, no human rights organizations, no religious entities will be part , and no broad-based network of civil society organizations , simply put constitutional reform is for the Ethiopia people to decide. Currently the ABIY government controls every aspect of economic life, communication, and commerce. Pm AA did not developed an improvement over the political systems. How did the past affect the present?

    Like the book of Joshua PM AA in foot of his master leader Former PM M Z, and same apply to I A : those who want to accept our rule will accept; those who want to leave, will leave; those who want to fight, will fight them and this being applied Tigray and Eritrea laterally today . and those who leaved Eritrea in drove will leave and thousands of prisoners were being held and abused ,they cannot even leave the country even they wish
    Of course other many possibilities remain . Those who live in Eritrea and Ethiopia deserve better than the brutal vision of PFDJ and TPLF/ EPRD/PP supremacist offered by the disciples of I A, and PM AA .we have to get rid of them in order to secure a better future for all.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Said,

      These are facts:

      1 – The Tigray people are invaded by foreign forces in alliance with the central government (a) Eritrea forces (b) Somalian forces trained in Eritrea (c) the UAE drones (d) the Amara special forces an militia (e) the federal army. Coming out from the encircling forces of annihilation and changing the war momentum, is in itself a historical success compared with the wars of the past in the region.

      2 – The war is still going and you can’t give full account at this time. Wars are evaluated at the end of the war. Though wars bring damages on both sides, there will be losers and winners based on the “statistics of the lose” and the “achievement of the goal” of the warring forces.

      3 – At this stage of the war you couldn’t imagine as to whether the war will lead to disintegration and the formation of multiple states or keep Ethiopian union intact. We are waiting how the unknown factors will play in the coming days and months.

      4 – The Tigray people have paid more than their share to keep Ethiopia intact in the past until this senseless war of genocide upon them. This war might lead them to another alternative solution.

      5 – The politics of demeaning, and the politics of suppression and oppression of the Tigray people, lead them to rebel against the central government of Ethiopia in 1943 and 1975 that finally brought the self-rule of Tigray people as well as to the other Ethiopian social groups. This war is intend to thwart the current federalism and to bring back the old unitary government. If the current structure of government does not hold its ground, Tigray will opt to secede and the rest will follow suite. That is the fact politico-military confrontation of the Abiy and Tigray people.

      6 – No matter how bad, we, the Eritrean people hate TPLF, the Tigray people adore them, rallying around them for all the successes that have shown on the ground. TPLF instill them courage, helped them to regain their respect from the unheard human despises and neglects all throughout their history. This is irrespective the flaws in their administration. TPLF are the pride of Tigray people in not to the other Ethiopian social groups. TPLF saved Ethiopia from disintegration when power vacuum crated by forming EPRDF in 1991. We shall see if Ethiopia can be saved without TPLF and Tigray people.

      Now it is your turn, but please – ንሓሳባት ወዲንካ አቅርቦም:: ካልአይ ነዊሕ ስለ ዝጸሓፍካ ብዙሕ ሓሳባት አለዎ ማለት ኣይኮነን::

      With respect
      Ananuel Hidrat

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother Amanuel Hidrat,

        Thank you the above explanation. Thank you again and again brother. I 2nd you in all and it is perfectly explained.

        -The Tigray people have paid more than their share to keep Ethiopia intact in the past until this senseless war of genocide upon them. This war might lead them to another alternative solution.-

        The base of Ethiopia is Tigray, in all the way history other important parts of criteria (a principle or standard by which something may be judged or decided.) to call it Ethiopia in first place. I doubt the present of that nation after Tigray leave as a nation. Ethiopia will be dismantled most probably I think. The world is badly watching the war and if they ask referendum the people will say yes to freedom as we have said it. The war is going on and Tigray fighters are advancing in all fronts. Today they have captured the town of Hawzen (Ge’ez: ሓውዜን) strategic land but they may leave it as they are doing it most of the time. And really doing fine.

        Do you know, that TPLF been there all those 27 years advancing all the way economically,,, and the city that you and me know Bahir-Dar is with like village but now more advanced city than Asmara and Mekelle all cities of Ethiopia ?

        KS,,

      • said

        Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
        I am well aware for the most of the point you raised specifically in term of on going war and the challenge TPLF faced as you stated ,by Eritrea forces , Somalian forces , the UAE drones , the Amara special forces militia and the federal army and taking those fact inconsideration .Yet TPLF failed and refused to draw the necessary conclusions of its enemy mentioned . It was suffocated by hubris that prevented it from reading its neighbors enemy and their intentions.. What happened to TPLF intelligence that ruled Ethiopia for 27 years .

        For TPLF to start the war and one may wonder whether TPLF war strategists are so thick as not to grasp the most obvious facts about Ethiopia and Eritrea and what fuels their motivation to fight. It may of course be possible that TPLF ’s decision makers aren’t as excited by tranquility as some of us want to believe, they have good 3 years to prepare ,Just wondering

        And Leaving your political analysis aside and with respect What YOU SAID. I have put my opinion clearly as above opinion and below opposing Iin great length and I said more than enough .

        I AM not a MILTARY ANLYEST.I put my opinions humbly and not known all the fact. If winning a military battle is defined by the accomplishment of one’s military objectives, then TPLF was defeated the current round of violence with its very first barrage on Mekelle on the other hand, won’t win, can’t win and doesn’t even dream of winning.to be seeing Like in recent ‘rounds’, federal army all hopes to achieve is and an ‘image of victory.’ Was premature Despite its military might and destructive enthusiasm, in other hand I am also well aware the federal army can’t prevail militarily because it doesn’t even know what military objectives are or what they are look looking for ,is not clear.

        I am well aware that Federal army and Military victory is not measured by the carnage they inflict on TPLF and Tigray . It isn’t measured by the number of casualties or the residential homes and hospital and school reduces into dust.

        Admittedly, even those there is room for comparison between the federal army military capabilities and TPLF is a strong forces ,I beg to differ ,as I wrote above .Even one of the most technologically advanced military forces in the world like US and Russia have being defeated by much weaker forces and no need to give an example . The reason is simple their country and people ,National front objectives are simple and modest

        Definitely TPLF managed to unite Tigrayan into unified fist of resistance .It is matter do or die for Tigrayan population. TPLF in past and present has positioned itself on the other hand, TPLF can’t decide its military goals and can not defend Tigrayan population? TPLF seem intact and operational, big damage is done for even not defending its capital . It doesn’t take a military genius to grasp that. the federal army deploy ground forces and to engage in a fierce battle in the streets of Mekelle But this is exactly the one thing the TPLF refuses to do and for a manifold of defeat ,TPLF were coward and fearful of a house-to-house battle anyway they malted and run away to the nearby mountain. For one reason or another. Clearly I understood as cowardice and weakness. What happened their will to fight in day one in Mekelle at least .What happened TPLF top decision makers, both within the political realm and TPLF military . That should subscribe to the power of defence and deterrence, they invalidate this doctrine, in their back yard .

        Round 1 TPLF have being defeated and humiliated in the battlefield and within few days the TPLF forces collapsed. The humiliation of the TPLF was unprecedented in military terms. Ethiopian armies managed to obliterate the TPLF defence lines, the reality on the ground proved the opposite of what you said .I thought TPLF was well trained military force that will make the Ethiopian armies run home with its tail between its legs.

        Yes TPLF they keep fighting until they win, TPLF launched a war of attrition against the federal army and they are hitting them hard. which will exhaust the Ethiopian forces in time. But the outcome of such a war is unknown.
        Regard
        Said

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Said,

          I have no problem to have different opinions as far as we are talking on the facts. Don’t worry about it. If you don’t mind small corrections on your comment.

          1 – TPLF didn’t start the war. The Tigray government was encircled by all the forces that are in the war theater now to over throw the legitimate regional government of Tigray. It is a matter of few days before they start it the Tigray government took preemptive attack. To understand my argument please consider (a) the visit of Abiy to Sawa and DIA to the Ethiopian Air Force (b) the meeting of the three leaders at Bahri Dar. Then you will know the war preparation of the allied forces.

          (b) until up to now battles can be won or lost at every engagement. But the war is not won or lost.

          Finally, the rest of your comment is your opinion, and I could live with it.

          Regard

      • Hashela

        Selam Amanuel

        You post once again highlights the distorted version of reality you seem live in.

        1) You depict TPLF as a victim.

        To not acknowledge a significant contribution of TPLF to the current situation in Tigray is simply dishonest.
        For 30 years, TPLF has antagonized and terrorized the entire HOA region by looting Ethiopia’s wealth, incorporating large and fertile territories into Tigray, inciting ethnic conflicts, exporting terrorism and ethno-fascistic ideology, and isolating and strangulating Eritrea.
        TPLF refused to withdraw from Eritrean sovereign territories and refused to obey the directives of the federal authority and follow federal laws that are supreme to the Killil regulations. TPLF started the war on November 2020 by attacking the Northern Command of the Ethiopian Army and internationalize the conflict by bombarding Eritrea using missiles.

        When the war escalated, TPLF chose to run for the caves instead protecting the people it claims to represent.

        2) You rhetorically asked who will win the war.

        It can be said with certainty that with this war TPLF lost everything:

        – TPLF’s political and economic power is severely limited and diminished

        – by losing the fertile territories it forcibly incorporated to Tigray, TPLF homeland is geographically shrinkage, will become agriculturally unproductive, and it lost access to the sea via Eritrea and Sudan.
        -TPLF lost the respect of the population it claims to represent by not being willing and able to protect them when they protection

        3-5) you wrote about the sacrifice made by Tigray, and sedation of Tigray.

        You seem to buy the theatrics of a threatening beggar, an art that is developed by TPLF to perfection. This is analogous to a thief claiming to be a victim of robbery and complaining for not being recognized as the most generous in the planet. A parasite never leaves its host. So TPLF’s Tigray will never cede from Ethiopia

        6) You said TPLF is hated by Eritreans and transformed Tigray.

        i) TPLF is hated in Eritrea and in the region due to the mayhem and destruction they brought to the region.
        ii) Transformation of Tigray by TPLF. It seems that TPLF was giving a permill (‰) fraction to its people from the looted money. Now with limited resource and no federal bank available for robbery, TPLF has to prove its capability and potential to socio-economically transform its homeland.

        In summary: TPLF is and will be reduced to a duality of irrelevance in Ethiopia’s politics and dominance in impoverished Tigray. Is this the victory you are prematurely celebrating?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hashela,

          Two points without going to details:

          1 – As to who started the 2020 war ditto to my reply I gave to Said. Scroll it down and you will see it there,

          2 – As to the status of the war as we speak, it is still going. The regular war and the war of starvation to unleash and to eliminate the Tigray people is still perpetuating. There could be battles won or lost by both sides, but the war is not won or lost until it ends. You don’t know the nature of wars.

          The rest of your comment is simply a repeat from the propaganda of PFDJ. There is nothing truth whatsoever in your comment. May be we could debate on “life science” and “physical science” that you are good at it in the the future. Politics for you is a matter of cheering and a matter of “ ጦብላሕታዊ ክትዕ’ዩ:;

          With respect
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Once you are cured from the virus called “TPLF” (no vaccine so far), I love to chat with you about science. I would even invite you to my advanced lecture.

            ድፈትወካ ሓውካ

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            You have said “my advanced lecture.”Ahem, It reminds me the saying of an astute statesman without quoting his words here. I believe we learn from each other. And I think you want to lecture without being lectured by others. Am I right Hashela? I think you are a universal lecturer of all discipline of knowledge.

            Regard

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Even you with your wealth of knowledge and endless wisdom, there are areas where you can expand and deepen your knowledge.

            Learning is a life-long and continuous experience. Doomed are those who choose a stagnation and intellectual still stand.

            Don’t get swallowed by our typical and misplaced highlander pride.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            Keep your “boasting spirit” within yourself to have a healthy conversation.

            Regard

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Hashela,

            I don’t want to get in between your, argument but I get to witness the real display of “ዋላ ትንፈር ጤል እያ”.

            But I am finding one thing very surprising, in fact it’s confirmed my suspicion. I live in a city where there are all kind of people from all around the world and including from Africa.

            Let me give an example what I mean. Rwanda had gone through the changes around the same time (few years later) Ethiopia got rid of the Derg and Eritrea become independence. Somalia also went to change.

            When Eritrean people were asking asylum, it was common to claim they are Ethiopian of former Derg / Amhara family. Because if Eritrean, there was lots of chance to be deported. The number of Eritrean seeking asylum between 91-97 is relatively very small.

            I think there were lots of people from Somalia and they continue to come. Few people from South Sudan. Eritrea case exploded starting 2001 and continues until today.

            Rwanda, specially if Tutsi or Uganda or Kenya, there are hardly refugees from those countries. And it’s safe to assume because they have relative peace in their country.

            What I find extremely surprising is the number of young Ethiopian from Tigray after the conflict in Tigray, in the so many demonstrations and activism they are doing.

            I can tell most of them had grown in the country from the language they speak but very well spoken and very well to do (in terms of their education) level.

            Because the TPLF was in power for all these years, I would have assumed the most majority would stay in the country, like those in Rwanda and other places.

            How would they arrive do many of and what would be the reason to claim asylum status?

            There is very few ways to come / immigrate:
            1) economic class: where you show that you have at least 500K.
            2) education class: you come as foreign student and after completing your study you can apply for residence. But you pay very expensive university fees, at least 5 times the regular fees.
            3) Refugee sponsorship: your family sponsor you buy usually from a third country such as African countries. You still have to prove fear. Your sponsors are responsible for the first year.
            4) Government sponsored via UNHCR: you get settled by the government where all your expenses are paid for the first year. You have to prove fear.

            And there are those who come in using forged documents and seek asylum upon entry.

            Under what conditions and circumstances could all these people from Tigray are able to come?

            If it’s under refugee class then, how were they able to successfully make a refugee claim, in other words “how can they prove fear”, “fear from whom?” TPLF government, which as far as I know was considered “democratic”

            Berhe

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Berhe,

            Let me interject here:)

            Migration patterns are formed by varying factors involving social, economic, political, ethnic, religious, wars and etc. Although your question appears to be formulated in an ad hoc in response to sizes of demonstrations that you saw, I think there may be some factors that necessitate for people from Tigray to seek settlement in western countries.

            – The border war has had severe impact on the local economy in Tigray. I am talking for the average people. Tigray was effectively shut off from its natural border trading partner and trade route through Massawa.

            – The well to do Tigrayans would be more likely to look elsewhere around the world as Tigray was not a big market and the Kilili politics had made it unlikely to make longer term investment in other parts of Ethiopia (although their parastatals controlled bigger cuts from nationally privatized sectors). So, it was likely that they would look to migrate. Those in lower echelon also had hardships pushing them to migrate.

            – There were also political heavy handedness that with political/religious (minority Muslims) finding it difficult to stay.

            – There were also a large Tigrayan refugees from earlier conflicts in Sudan that sought to continue the journey to the western countries.

            – Also, there are those who have the best of both worlds just like the PFDJista Eritreans – moK abilomuna zelewu:)

            Overall, I don’t think the people of Tigray have anything to be singled out for this. Their situation is pretty much the same as the rest of the sub-sahara Africa.

            Eritrean migration is not comparable to anything. It was ahead of Syria at one brief moment. That is due to a silent genocidal policies enacted by the regime of IA on the population.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            https://youtu.be/pbI6qTih2TI
            I’ve got nothing else to say at this moment.

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            A mail from Adi Halo to Arat Kilo…marked urgent!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9y1odNQ1Os

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            የቐንየለይ ሓወይ!
            ምን እያለ ነው የሚዘፍነው?

          • haileTG

            Abichu

            Ayyy ykebdal….aTer bale menged…IA behonlign noro eyale betikazie le PMAA eyetedegefebet new 🙂

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ይሁና, እንግዲህ ምኞት አይከለከል !
            ይመቸው::
            https://youtu.be/RLQpWoDpdXI

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            First I was not singling out the Tigray people. My question, is it possible to have so many young people in those demonstrations who are of native from Tigray and how they can possible are able to settle.

            Economic hardship is not a valid reason to guarantee refugee status. If that’s their claim then they will all have been rejected.

            The only other addition to my list above is, by family union as in marriage. But that number is a very small number.

            I know of what I listed is the only way to possible to get permanent resident. I don’t think these people from Tigray fit all those criteria.

            For those in Sudan and other places (around the 90s), either they claimed to be Derg associated or they will be rejected and told to go back to their country (as was the case for Eritreans in the early 90s) to go back and live there, because there is no o longer “fear”.

            PMAA said, “They (Tigray) people claim refugee claiming as Eritreans because they speak the same language” when he was talking about the dispute they had with TPLF when they tried to move the refugee camps outside of Tigray, that the TPLF refused.

            So to go back to my question, those at least 40 years and younger (check the video the most majority in those demonstrations) how are able they able to settle and obtain residency?

            What the PM said is the likely scenario. Here is a hint for you, under the Government Assisted refugee program, those get settled fly directly from the refugee place. They are also provided settlement upon arrival and supported for one year with all expenses paid. They don’t have to cross the Sahara, they don’t have to pay any one to smuggle them and they don’t have to have any one sponsor them and pay their expenses when they settled here. Canada for example is the country that settle the most government sponsored refugees.

            They only way to qualify for such assistance is, you have to be referred by the local UNHCR representative.

            In Tigray refugee camps, who are the local UNHCR representative, who are the translators and who are the facilitators? I leave that for you to ponder… I can tell speaking with Canadian officials where I attended a meeting, they told us, establishing identity is a huge problem, so the best they can do is offload that responsibility to the UNHCR, which is left for them to sort it out. That’s the case for all other countries who have government assisted settlement programs.

          • haileTG

            Selam Berhe,

            Yes there has been a lot of corruption in the Tigray camps. But generally speaking, that is pretty standard in many camps around Africa. The “fear” criteria is applied with “erring on acceptance” attitude. Otherwise, 90% of settlement from anywhere would be rejected unless they prove they are personally in fear of danger. There are also humanitarian leave to remain status in Europe. How many Eritreans immigrate under Ethiopian ID cards?

            All I am saying is that Tigrayans immigrate for better life just like everyone else. Some have reasonable grounds, some scheme the system, some get lucky. Just like all third world immigration. They are not different in this and no point in them being singled. The reason many attended the demonstration is because they support TPLF. If they didn’t, there would be less of them in the street and that doesn’t mean there are fewer immigration from Tigray.

            Let’s hope they have a wonderful and blessed life wherever they have settled. Ayni abayom ydfenelom:)

          • Berhe Y

            Selam HaileTG,

            I am speaking about the Eritrean refugees and how they are impacted in the camps. I don’t know what happens in other part of Africa but I don’t agree their case is the same in any parts of Africa. For example, the refugees in Sudan or Kenya, I don’t think they have the same people (from Sudan or Kenya) masquerading as “Eritreans”.

            I don’t think you are correct when you make such broad statement “erring on acceptance” and thus grant them status is totally wrong. I know a relative in Germany who was asking refugee status in Germany after Eritrean independence, because he was Eritrean of Ethiopian origin. His waited over 20 years before his got his case on “humanitarian case”. They tried so many times to deport him to Eritrea but the Eritrean government refused to issue him passport.

            The same in Canada and other places (may be less restrict) but I can tell you more than 90% will get rejected if there is no “fear” if they are deported to their country of residence, as it will be the case for “majority or most of people from Tigray” because there was no established evidence that they will be harmed if they are returned.

            BTW, it was the same case for Eritreans as well, and this was changed because of those Eritrean deported from Malta were they headed straight to jail and the UNHCR (where Eritrean government gave their words will not be jailed) and the UNHCR decided to issue directive to half any deportation.

            If that was not the case, Israel would have deported all 50,000 of them to Eritrea.

            How many Eritreans got their asylum using Ethiopian ID? The answer is probably “zero” at least in the last 20 years. Because their chances of being rejected is much higher compared to being Eritrean. If you are asking, before 1998 war then there may have been a some.

            I don’t have a problem if Tigrayans immigrate for better life like everyone else. But I have a problem, if they are using Eritrean sorry state in the refugee camps and use the limited number of opportunities to go out instead. All this Eritreans rot in the refugee camps, and those that are frustrated try to leave using the dangerous route and face undue harm and life time torture while those Tigrayans, in the comfort of their homes and get picked and fly directly in the government sponsored homes where all their needs are taken.

            Those Eritrean in those refugee camps, are not leaving because of economic reason but they are not able to live in peace in their countries. And if it wasn’t for PFDJ “indefinite national service” policy, I don’t think Eritreans would risk everything to leave their country.

          • haileTG

            Hey Berhe,

            You know refugee case is complicated. It is also individual. Some people get rejected and reapply under different scenarios. Some people are accepted with little excuse and others rejected with persuasive cases. Corruption runs all the way to the office of the western official.

            If you are saying a large number of Tigrayans are going under Eritrean citizenship then the entire background check system in the west is failed and puts at risk security. If you are saying some are scheming the system, it is likely. The PFDJ claimed our Lampedusa victims were Tigrayans pretending to be Eritrean. A very painful memory indeed. The whole issue was blown out of proportion to push back against the horror we were witnessing during the high migration time of the sea and desert. PFDJ paraded that of mostly being Tigrayans. That is cheap propaganda on the part of the regime.

            Where I live many Eritreans were resettled from Tigray. If you have evidence that there was a large scale fraud then I would love to see it. BTW hardly any country other than Canada sponsors from camps. In most countries you have to show up in person.

            Finally, is it the sight of so many Tigrayans made you feel that way or you came across some hard evidence?

            As per the YPFDJ who were requesting DNA verification of Lampedusa victims, 95% refugees are Tigrayans and most warsays are happily serving their nation.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            I too am disgusted by the PFDJ claim for the victims of lampadusa as African migrants. Rest assured that my comments are not based of PFDJ lines.

            I use to hear of similar situations but the large sight of young Tigrayans and the PM statement led me to ask if there was some merit.

            The only was to get to the bottom is, to look at the information using access to information and thrill investigations.

            I am very familiar with the refugee sponsorship process as I have been involved in many of my relatives. Establishing citizen ship, that one is Eritrean requires an ID card, birth day certificate or some other document such as school transcript.

            Most people who come to Canada are under family sponsorship and the government hardly rejects the case. The main reason I think:

            1) all the burden of resettlement is carried out by the relatives
            2) Identity is also established via the sponsoring parties so its No risk and no cost of getting people to the system.

            All we heard from the people, specially those TPLF sympathizers were, why are Eritrean voting with their feet instead of staying and fight back.

            I didn’t think there were that many people from Tigray (young people) all around the world.

            This war had brought them out and I was surprised by the large number.

            I didn’t know the Tigrayans were also voting with their feet all these years, while the country was under the leadership of the “visionary leader”:).

          • haileTG

            Selam Berhe,

            They did vote with their feet alright! I was only taken back to memory because Tigrayans pretending to be Eritreans was a big sadistic joke the regime played. If you are involved in such process, I am sure you are aware of the fact that you can check application progress online. Many families do that for their sponsored relative from the country of sponsorship. If many Eritreans are being used in that way, the family will know and complain. So, it is not possible to do that in large scale. As to whether Tigrayans had good case or not however, that is an open question. But I get your point now. And hopefully you get mine too. Thanks

          • Abi

            Berhe
            I was following your dialogue with ኃይልሽ since morning.
            Here is what my First Lady noticed when volunteering at the local school system ( K-12). She volunteered one half day a week for about 5 years. Her responsibility was translating English into Amharic and Tigrinya.
            What she noticed was, of the Tigrinya speaking families the majority are Tigreans claiming to be Eritreans from the refugee camps.
            I believe situations like these are reasons for a higher number of Tigreans in Canada and elsewhere.

            An awatista by the name Meron lamented about the same issue in his work environment. Meron was an accountant ( tax preparer) from Atlanta area who told us ( I bet you don’t remember) that majority of his clients are Tigreans who claim to be Eritreans from the refugee camps.
            Glad I helped out.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Your memory is phenomenal. My recollection of Meron’s story is identical with yours.
            Now thanks to TPLF’s madness and miscalculation, Tigrayans don’t need to pretend! They can proudly apply for asylum as Tigrayans, an identity with which they seem to a problem.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I was a new student back then absorbing almost everything:)
            Glad you ( a Passerby) remembered the same story and came to my defense before the snipers shot me down:)
            PMAA liberated Tigreans at home and abroad!!!
            Now that is what I call a true liberator!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I am not surprised at all.

            Here you will find the UNHCR resettlement numbers.

            https://www.unhcr.org/resettlement-data.html

            The three largest source by country of origin are Syria, Eritrea and Congo. The three countries that settle the most are US, Canada and Sweden.

            The three most countries of asylum are, Turkey, Lebanon and Ethiopia.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            Selam Berhe

            This a deep question that can be only answered by people from the department of forked tongues and twisted hearts

          • haileTG

            Hahaha Hashela! ካብ ፈራዕራዕ ናብ ጠንቀላዕላዕ! Great saying….

            From “we have accomplished our mission in two weeks without a single civilian causality” to “the Eritrean army dragged out civilians from their homes and massacred them”.

            From “we are observing TPLF leaders from our situation room and giving them 72hrs to protect their wives and children” to “we are fighting invisible insurgents in eight fronts”.

            From “Ethiopia doesn’t need Eritrean help” to “Eritreans will leave one day”.

            From “we have had government from before your countries were even created” to “why are you punishing us badly because we are black and poor”.

            You nailed it ካብ ፈራዕራዕ ናብ ጠንቀላዕላዕ!

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate
    Happy Friday
    CNN’s Nima Elbagir , who , disclosed Eritrean soldiers disguised in Ethiopia military uniforms is now interviewed about her work recently:
    https://crooked.com/podcast/the-crisis-in-ethiopia-with-nima-elbagir/

    • haileTG

      Thanks Brhan,

      Also, it is nice to hear from Dehab Faid Tinga (Fatyinga). Her new single to the youth of our country.

      https://youtu.be/GEn8k9ivYNI

      • Brhan

        Thanks haileTG,
        The words are great and the rhythm, particularly, the saxophone and base guitar makes some one in an office setting እስክትሽም on his chair …perfect for a start to the weekend

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat-TG,

        I was listening a poem this morning titled “አነ ንመትከለይ” – a poem sent to me from my contact. It reinforce the spirit of “መትከላውያን”. I wish I could share with you guys in this forum.

        Regards

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Brhan & All,

      Thank you Brhan for the clip. When I listened to it, I try to think some kinds of parallels between the KGB Putin and the head of security of Ethiopia, Abiy Ahmed, during PMMZ and PMHD, and how both they grab the power of their respective countries. Do you think any historical parallel as to how they came to power? Do you think Abiy will be as formidable as Putin to stay in power as long as Putin did? I want to hear from the great debaters of the forum.

      Regards

      • Brhan

        Selam Professor Amanuel,
        Technically, Abiy Ahmed, in my view, won’t stay in power like Putin: The intelligence institution of Ethiopia is way behind KGB, which has been solid since its creation. Ethiopia’s intelligence institution has seen many setbacks. And as a result, it is in a continuous process of remaking. This process can’t be conducted alone. It goes with the overall political changes of a country. Will it reflect those changes? The other alternative for A. Ahmed to stay in power is easy, and from him, he has not to go far, KGB: but follow his only friend in the region, DIA. He can be unconstitutional, can’t respect the rule of law, suppress, abuse human rights. Ethiopian recent political development has shown that those are the ingredients of unrest, leading to a war, like what we are seeing.

        • Aman Y.

          Selam Brhan,
          To add to what you wrote, the economy of Russia when Putin was selected was booming, where as Abiy’s selection was not. TPLF is the big elephant in the room. If he lets Tigray go, he can easily stay for life. I believe, he has already secured his power base in the two big regions and that is all he needs to get the other regions.

          Surprisingly, their assertion was very similar.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ፍኒስትራ ከፊተ
    ንምብራቕ ክጥምት
    ጩራ-ጸሓይ ኣብ መሬት ክወድቕ
    ‘ዛ ኩባያ ቡነይ ቀስ ኢለ ክምዑግ
    ክምስ ኢለ

    ግን ኣይደንጎኹን
    ንድሕሪት ክምለስ
    ሃገረይ ዘኪረ ቅጫ-ስርናይ
    ምስ ሻሂ ክቖርስ
    ምስ ስድራይ

    ግዜ ‘ወሰደለይን ከስተማስል
    ኣነዶ ምስተሰደድኩ
    በልኩ
    ከይሓፈርኩ
    ስለምንታይ’ሲ
    ጸገም ካልኦት ስለ ረሳዓኩ

    ኣነ ብናብራይ ‘ተስተማሲለ
    ‘ቲ ዝጠመየ ዝቖሰለ
    ‘ንተዝስማዓንስ ታይ ኮን ምበለ?

    ምስ ምሉእ መግበይ
    ኣብ ዓራተይ
    ብሰላም
    ገለን ከኣ ምጥሜት ብውግእ
    ኣብ ጸላም
    ኣነስ ከስተማስል ዶ ግባኣኒ?
    ኣየ ዓለም ብላሽ!

  • said

    Greetins,

    The demise and end of primacy of TPLF?

    The strategic blander and asking for future trouble and TPLF not recognizing its limited military power.
    Tigrayans population constitute about 6 million population , as small minority, of Ethiopia’s population of more than 110 million people, TPLF should have high position and dominion and paly fair game . .Tigrayan as minority ,in Ethiopia’s history they faced many horrible crime ,but they are not alone it shared mislay with rest minorty even minorrty like Oromo , and those from 80 ethnic groups have witnessed horrible catastrophes .
    But being in power and TPLF top leaders held major position and greater influence in many major public and military and security apparatus and monopoly in private sectors, including the federal government, for nearly 27 ,they never shared power with other ethnic groups equally deservingly .

    The weak EPRDF and that was never reformed, as token group ,it was intended as a provisional government when it came to power in 1991 after the overthrow of the monster communist junta , the Derg. In the years since, EPRDF controlled and donated by TPLF . Former PM M Z, who was in fully charge until very last day in earth in 2012, TPLF controlled central government’s power in Addis , with violent repression of protesters and jailing independent journalists and opposition .

    When the new prince Ahmed replaced the Derg worshiper Hailemariam Desalegn, PM AA rapprochement with I A and made peace agreement. Former PM M Z, he had a depth enmity for I A, they hated each other to death. the tow men vendetta mentality brought two countries disaster and specially for Eritrea. It was a fact there would never have peace between MZ and I A

    PM AA exploited the situation further and he shared the same enemy of I A , the TPLF .Add to this historical animosity between Amharas and Tigrayans.and involving Eritrean army in Tigray war and all parties committed atrocities and wanton destruction of Tigray and the attack by ENDF and Eritrean military’s is on going . Ethiopian army can not differentiate Tigrayans civilian population. And are paying the price ,for the sin and PM AA his hate for TPLF that has dominated Ethiopian politics in the past 27 years .

    TPLF is one of the most corrupt and murderous government on the horn of Africa ,at least for most Ethiopian ,Eritrean IA supporters and Somalian victim of war and that has been the case throughout almost the entirety of its short lived history.
    TPLF through out its history to the cusp of our living memory to find any humanistic and peaceful single example and only thing that mattered was ,TPLF military mighty power ,was being used for purposes that were evil and it had proved that it most certainly is evil deed.

    In 1991 TPLF entering the center of power Addis ,corruption greed, arrogance ,domination and power. It was TPLF policy officially ,it shifted to preserving by preventing the rise of any other ethnic group or any power which could rival its might. TPLF military might, was meant to deter any group from challenging TPLF primacy. this was accomplished after 1991 till 2018 , uncontested domination of Ethiopia at all cost and no matter how many lives dead or need to risked and snuffed out in order to achieve it ,in order PM MZ to stay in power uncontested, in short there was no democracy and PM MZ never meet the very minimum conditions for free and fair elections. And no equal rights based on the law?

    PM MZ never believed in freedom of expression’. In Pluralistic system. And that Every Ethiopian citizen who is qualified must have an equal right to vote, unhindered by obstruction. If he believed in honest election that was would being his end and even when he lost, he never accept defeat and acknowledge the legitimacy of the outcome. PM MZ axed all the candidates who could even remotely jeopardize MZ chances, The election was never competitive. Any potential reformists were shut out of the electoral politics.

    TPLF with their belligerent positions, there was no institutions of civil society. No human rights organizations, no public intellectual forums, etc. He betrayal of Ethiopian precious democratic process, History will judge will him harshly of what he did.

    Western and US funds, money that made TPLF top leadership and families and a very corrupt class of sell out Ethiopian undeservingly rich. This culture, seen by most Ethiopian as treacherous and corrupt .TPLF had nothing new to offer by way of new ideas, strategies, plans, let alone language for 21 century .

    TPLF have too much power over others? And they never wanted to share , there was not noble cause without having to bend the truth beyond recognition. TPLF fought and died for Tigray .and not for Ethiopia ? It’s important to spread awareness. because the fairy tale that TPLF fought for freedom and Liberty for their Ethiopian countrymen is a major propaganda narrative used it to stay in power . Without all that propaganda deceiving Ethiopian countrymen ,naïve people into believing the lies and PM MZ tirelessly counts his innumerable achievements with browed money , without all this lies TPLF would not have lasted for more than 27 years, and that long enough to create real democracy and most likely Ethiopian would have being in peace .

    TPLF have never recognized the sovereignty of the people as the foundation of the legitimacy of state power. the choice never belongs to the people.

    What is at stake today, The inheritor of the kingdom of Ethiopia , king Abiy Ahmed will not be any Different than his former bass and his master PM MZ . Abiy speaks of prosperity and peace, while his people are dying of starvation and they are pointlessly begging for his attention.PM AA factional division, classism and utter political chaos, which persisted for many years, is not likely on its way out,

    Ethiopian coming election will set the precedent for future of electoral politics in Ethiopia and is yet to be determined. Much depends on PM AA , how he is performs now, and after election , how successful it will be , his administration is in checking dissent and the non existing the civil society, and more importantly the War in Tigray must stop immediately . PM AA immorality — and the willingness to intentionally decimate and incinerate perhaps tens of thousand of Tigrayans men, women, and children to advance he ’s career and the idea that bombing will bring peace to discussion is madness . PM AA driven by sadism and led by IA sadist and a psychopath. And nothing resembling current war in Tigray existed in its history . The Amhara militia and TPLF are sadistic, of course. Nothing have changed in Ethiopia ,replaced by sadist and a psychopath men on the top?

    • haileTG

      Selam Said,

      I was following your debate with Aman H, as both of you are my favorite writers, I wished it ended well! Anyhow, I thought to give my 2-cents as to what seems to me the key stumbling block on that discussion.

      Yes PMMZ was not highly democratic nor willing to give up power no matter the costs. However, the comparison would be useful if for example it is with Paul Kegame or Musovini. Even with his Kenyan or Tanzanian counterpart. How can we compare him with IA? By what indicators can IA be compared with the post cold War leaders of the region? IA is a league in his own. He has no institutions, no political activism of any sort, no economic activity to speak of, no constitution or legal system…

      So, I believe that IA is incomparable entirely with any one. Any debate in an attempt to do so would surely hit a brick wall and degenerate into problematic discourse.

      Thanks

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ሃይላት

        ንሃይለ ኣርካን ኣመስግነለይ ኢሉኒ ኣርሓ ዓዲ-ሃሎ። ጸጸኒሐ ይድውለሉ ‘የ ኩነታት ጥዕንኡ ክፈልጥ። As you might suspected, ኣይሓሾን።
        የግዳስ ናተይ መወዳድርቲ ብሂወቶም የለውን ግን መለስ ሓደ ካብኣቶም ኣይኮነን። ከመይ ጌሩ? ክብል ነዲሩ።
        ዝ ሃይለ ዝብልዎ ለባም ሰብ ‘ዩ የግዳስ ኣንጻረይ ምዃኑ ባህ ኣይበለንን። ናብ ልብኻ ተመለስ ከኣ ‘ልኳ። Blue label ካብ Costco ድማ ወስ በል ኢሉካ።
        ኣንታ ሰብኣይ ርክብ ከይህልወካ ክጠራጠር ጀሚረ ሕጅስ።

      • said

        Selam Haile TG
        Thank you for your input and I fully agree with you I.A is league by himself and Yes IA is incomparable entirely with any one. I wrote to A.H in length 3 days ago and part what I said
        As below :
        No one can be compared to dictator IA, who have spread crime , fears to our society , poisoning our hearts, minds, and souls. IA willful ignorance, lies, irrationality, stupidity, malevolence, mean-spiritedness, , treason, and incompetence, you surely know how little he is and nothing to compare to IA contempt for nation is in plain sight and so openly cruel and callous and an unrepentant warmonger and the Zealot EPLF /PFDJ hardliners betray every single ideal and principle for which Eritreans dream stands.
        30 year history of hatred and contempt for the most of Eritreans is played out in the present day. This is not speculation; most Eritrean all know these facts are well-attested and well-documented. IA evil it is the root cause of virtually all our present-day political ,economical and host of social problems, all of which have been created and exacerbated by IA and PFDJ evil men . We can scarcely imagine what life could be like without their ruling Eritrea. Eritrean with a conscience, with a sense of moral outrage, and with a larger sense of justice, Eritrean are utterly appalled at the situation in Eritrea .

        When Eritrean have being living dreadful life ,in abject poverty , in delusion a false, rotten and failed system of one man rule ,in which absolutely there is no hope and no chance of reform; when the same vile crimes and depredations will continue on Eritrea under either contempt sick regime; when nothing of any economical value to Eritrean people happened, even considered by either dead soul, then engaging in fine gradations of imposed evils is a lunatic’s and ridiculously inept IA PFDJ junta will not Change and Reform.

        • haileTG

          Thank you brother Said,

          You said it well! I see so much accurate and full treatment of the subject matter whenever you share something with the forum. Both you and Aman H are thorough in the way you handle your topics. Hence a wonderful asset to the voices of justice. Hopefully, you guys see beyond such small differences and bury the hatchet 🙂

          Respectfully,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Said & Hailat-TG,

          Thank you Said, we finally agreed that they are “incomparable” leaders. That was the center of our debate, and we came up to the same understanding. We can agree on the facts and we can differ on personal opinions. That is a healthy engagement.

          Hailat, thank you for your skillful approach to smooth differences and communalities. We need more of you in this forum.

          Regards

  • said

    Greeting
    Amanuel Hidrat you responded to me and wrote: (When I try to debate with you, it wasn’t about TPLF. It was about the contrast between two politician and leaders of two country. It was about Issayas as a person, as a politician, as a leader what he did in presiding the our nation for 30 years, in comparison of Meles as a person, as a politician, as a leader what he did to Ethiopia. I gave you the contrast between the two. Since you told us there are some parallel between the two, I was expecting to read the comparison between the two. When you engage in a debate you stick with the framed topic without going to all kind of history that we equally aware)

    Even those I respond in great length ,I give you example after example and I refuted some of your list about MZ success and I was clear there are great differences between the tow men .let me make short comment and I leave it to the reader to make their own judgment and make their own the comparison between Meles and Issayas
    Report by human rights about MZ at his time
    Meles Zenawi’s invasion of Somalia is that he wants to hide his regime’s excesses during the last 15 years which according to international human rights organizations and the European Union and the U.S. State Department’s assessment shows it to be anti-democratic, dictatorial and even totalitarian. At the Time report. The Meles regime is currently one of the world’s repressive states that parades in the name of democracy in order to use it as a palliative for the West that provides it with close to 2 billion U.S. dollars in aid per annum.

    What was real reason behind PM Melees Zenawi intervention in Somalia in 2006 fear of radical Somalia group .if that is case why not invade Sudan and bring down president Omer Basher regime .
    As reported widely .Meles invasion of Somalia was conceived and carried out within a very short period of time against Supreme Islamic Courts Council (SICC) . Ethiopian forces launched air strikes against SICC positions in several locations in December 2006 and began moving ground forces. Ethiopia’s defeat of the Courts was decisive because Addis Ababa is known to have one of the largest, well equipped and war-hardened armies in Sub-Sahara Africa. Meles was able to deploy a full range of tanks and warplanes against opponents equipped lightly Ethiopia’s conventional campaign led to the capture of the Somalian capital of Mogadishu on Dec. 28 2006-
    The Economist of London commented: The Court ‘ forces have been humiliated on the battlefield, their soldiers driven back into the bush and desert from where many of them came, their political power broken. And all this at the hands of that very same feeble transitional government–with an awful lot of help from the regional and world superpowers, Ethiopia and the United States.

    As reported. The intervention gives the prime minister whose repressive and anti-democratic policies have made him highly unpopular at home, a respite from international accusations of fomenting electoral abuse and carrying out gross human rights violations.

    starting in November 2001, Ethiopian troops had crossed into Puntland, where there was fear that radical group were trying to extend their influence. The Meles regime intervened on the side of the nominal government of Puntland to support a power grab by Abdullahi Yusuf. The action was coordinated because both the EPRDF government and Yusuf were vehemently opposed to Muslim moderate group in Somalia. Yusuf was however, ousted by the reversals that followed Meles’ intervention? He swiftly sent Ethiopian soldiers and routed many suspected radical out of the area.

    To realize that the only true threat posed by the Courts was the threat of a good example. Fighting among rival clans continued as it always had, and After a couple more years of violent infighting, governed by lawlessness and savagery, Being tired of violence and lawlessness Somalia found more stability and overseen by what became known as the Teachers Courts Union
    Norweigan academic Stig Hanssen agrees. He says that in Somalia, in English The Youth offered local people functional justice, unlike the officially recognized government: ‘[The] Youth leadership’s ideology and its well-developed problem-solving mechanism…made it the most unified actor in southern Somalia.’

    The closest thing to peace and prosperity that they had ever known. It was far from perfect. As it was reported the new Era was one of unprecedented stability and it did indeed occur in a state of pure anarchy. A coalition of civilian tribal elders oversaw a fluid legal system that allowed the countries numerous clans to settle disputes between each other and otherwise essentially govern themselves. There was zero monopoly on police and judicial functions and the rule of law was upheld by agreements based largely on uniquely Somali takes on property rights and Sharia law. Judges were largely autonomous and those who didn’t command the respect of their communities simply weren’t sought to oversee disputes.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Said,

      History will not put Issayas and Meles on the same pedestal. You believe they are of the same mold, and I don’t. If you can’t see any difference between the two, let us stop her. You made your argument and I made mine. Second, Your last paragraph makes it sound religious, and I don’t like it. Let’s ended it here.

      Regard

      • Peace!

        Good morning Emma,

        I remember when Meles imported Al-Ahabash and wrecked havoc into Muslim community, you didn’t care about religion, you didn’t care about due process, and you didn’t care about human rights rather you defended his evil divide and rule strategy vigorously with your lame excuse –so what Issayas, too, was doing it. Well, that blunder turned into the beginning of the end to his brutal fascism. Evil is evil regardless how big evil Issayas is plus Lesser-Evil justification for harming innocent people is morally unacceptable under any circumstance.

        Peace!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Peace,

          ኣብ በዓትታት “ጊሔ” ተሓቢእካ ዓይንብለይ ስኒብለይ ኢልካ ትትኩሶ ዘለኻ ናይ ሓሳት ጠያይት – is not landing at the target. You need to be trained how to shoot by your sponsors. Go to the nearby PFDJ offices.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            ድሓ ን ኣብቲ ግዜ ዘንብቡኻ ዝነበሩ ሰባት ኣብዚ ስለዘለው እቲ ፍርዲ ናብኣቶም ገዲፈዮ ኣለኹ:: ድሓር ድማ ኣነ ብዛዕባ መርገጺኻ እየ ኣጺሒፈ ::

            “ጊሔ” ጹቡቕ ጌርካ ትርጉሙ እንተትፈልጦ ኣብዚ ዕድሜኻ ኣይምተጠቐምካሉን ሽም ናይ ቦታ ኣይኮነን:: ምናልባት ምስቲ ውጥምጥም ዝመለኦ መርገጺኻ ይኸይድ ይኸውን:: እቶም ናይ ይኣክል ዑሱባት ውን ትርጉሙ ስለዘይፈልጥዎ ኣይታሓዞሙን እዮም::

            ምቕናይ ጥራይ 🙂

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selma Peace,

            “ግሔ” ስም ቦታ ኣይኮነን የግዳስ ናይ እንስሳ ሽም’ዩ:: ምናልባት ሐሸላ ወይውን መሃንድሳይ ወይውን እቶም ክልተ ሞኽሲ ዝኾኑ ሃይለታት ክሕብሩኻ ይኽእሉ እዮም::

          • Peace!

            ሰላም Emma,

            ካብ ጊሔ ናብ ግሔ ዶ ቀይርካያ ወይ ጉድ ዘይትፈልጦ ምዝራብ ዘምጽኦ ሽግር ቀደሙውን ናብኡ ዘኽይድ ኣይነበረካን:)

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Have you ever misspelled words be it tigrigna or English? It is a correction of misspelled word. Good students make fast self-correction. ምሽክናይ “ሰላም” ዘይሰላም:: when people comment in between their work, it happened misspelling of words. ኣስረሓዮ ሓንጎልካ:;

          • Haile S.

            Selam ኣማኑኤላት, Peace and all Awate student-teachers,

            To begin with, at Awete, we are all students taught by each other.

            ጊሔ (Rock Hyrax) is small mammal, the size of a big male cat that lives between crevasses in rocky areas in our country and elswhere in central, east and sothern Africa and countries along the Red Sea coast. It doesn’t dig. Usually they huddle together or sit all the day over the rocks. Perhaps ጊሔ used as an insult may mean someone who sits for longue without doing anything or lazy. If someone know any other exact significance, please come forward.

            Hyrax is the only living land mammal closely related to the elephant. The other relative of these two is the sea mammal, the Manatee that also lives in the coasts of Eritrean red sea (Manatee should be one of the Eritrean sea wildlife attractions). Hyrax has two upper incisors that look like elephant’s tusks.

            James Bruce observed and described Ashkoko (ኣሽቆቆ), Hyrax in Amharic spending 7 pages of his book. His description for the most part exact has few flows, but still admirable work.

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Haile S.
            The fact it lives hiding up in rocky caves is ,I THINK, significant in context to the discussion.

            I saw Hyrax(ጊሔ) when I visited my grandpa’s village in Eritrea. They were up on a very sloppy rocky caves close to a stream of water. I was also told they are used for medicine which google confirms to.

            “Hyraceum is the petrified and rock-like excrement composed of both urine and feces excreted … The rock hyrax defecates in the same location over generations, which may be sheltered in caves.

            These locations … Rock hyraxes produce large quantities of hyraceum—a sticky mass of dung and urine that has been employed as a South African folk remedy in the treatment of several medical disorders, including epilepsy and convulsions. Hyraceum is now being used by perfumers, who tincture it in alcohol to yield a natural animal musk.”

            Regard

          • Haile S.

            Selam Aman Y,

            Nice addition. Thank you!

          • Brhan

            ሰላም ኣማን
            ጊሐ፡ ስም ኣብ ረጋሕ (መንቃዕ) ቦታ እትነ’ብር ዓባይ ኣንጭዋ እትመ’ስል እንስሳ
            ገጽ 758
            መዝገበ ቃላት ትግርኛ 2000 ዓ.ም
            ብዶ/ር ካሳ ገ/ሂወትን
            ብፕ/ር ኣማኑኤል ጋንኪንን

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሰላም
            ተ ዘይተጋግየ ጊሔ ት ሰፍረሉ በዓቲ, በዓቲ ጊሔ ይበሃል። ‘ትበዓቲ ኣበየናይ ጎቦ ብዘየገድስ።

            ናይ “ይኣክል ዑሱባት” ምባል ድማ ነውሪ። ስለምንታይሲ ይኣክልን ዑሱባትን ብሓንሳብ ኣይከዳን።
            ምናልባሽ ዶ ዑሱባት ህግደፍ ክትብል ትኸውን

          • Peace!

            ስላም ምሃንድስ,

            ንኽበልዑዎ ዝደለዩ ኣባጉምባሕሲ ዛግራ ይብልዎ ድዩዝባሃል–ደሓን ተፍሊጥና ኣለና ::

            ድሓር ድማ በጃኹም ነብስኹም ፈትሹ ስጋብ ማዓስ ኢኹም በዞም ቁንጣሮ ናይ ህግደፍ ደገፍቲ ክተመኽንዩ::

            Peace!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሰላም
            ‘ንታይ ኴንካ ታ ሰላም: ሎምስ ኣቱም ክትብለኒ ጀሚርካ?
            ነብስኻ ሰላም ኢልካ ሰሚኻስ ስለምንታይ ኣንጻር ሰላም ትጓዓዝ?
            ናብ ልብኻ ተመለስ።

          • Saleh Johar

            Peace,
            ቁንጣሮ እዯም እዚ ኹሉ ዘንገርጎሩና ዘለዉ? ገቢቶሞ ዘለው ኣጽዋርን ንብረትን ሰራዊትን ሲ ቁንጣሮ’ዩ? ይግበረልና:: እሞ ንግደፎም ሁሉ ነገር ለወያነ ማጥፋት ንበል… ግን ድማ ኣጥፊእናዯም ኢሎም እንዳደናግሩና እንድዯም!:: ኣለዉዲኻ ትብል ዘለኻ?

          • Peace!

            Hi Saleh,

            እወ ቁንጣሮ እዮም እቲ ነቲ ኣጽዋርን ንብረትን ተሰኪሙዎ ዘሎ ኻኣ ካባይን ካባኻን ንላዕሊ ፍትሒ ዝደሊ ዜጋ እዩ ዕድል ኣብዝረኽበ ካኣ እንዳሞተ ዶብ ሰጊሩ ካብ ምስዳድ ዓዲ ኣይዋዓለን:: ግን ካኣ ንፉዓት ወደብትን ሓገዝትን መራሕትን እንተዝረክንብ ምናልባት ውጺኢቱ ካልእ ምኾነ ይብል ::

            እቲ ናይ ወያነ ዝበልካዮ ግን ምስ ቡዙሕ ይቕሬታ ንመልሲ ዝበቅዕ ነጥቢ ኮይኑ ኣይረኸብኩዎን:

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ሓው ሳልሕ,

            አብ ውሽጢ ሰለስተ ወርሒ “ከም ሓርጭ ተበቲኖም” ተባሂልናስ: ሕጂ ከአ “ደባይ ተዋጋእቲ” ኾይኖም አሸጊሮምና ይብሉና አለው:: ናይ ወያኔ ሳንዱቅ መቃብር ናይ መጨረሻ መስማር ወቅዕናላ ተባሂልስ: ሕጂ ኸአ buffer zone ከይተገበረልና አይንወጽእን እንዳተባህለ: ጉድጓድ ድፈዓት ክኳዓት ንሰምዕ አሎና:: ቀጺልናኸ እንታይ ክንሰምዕ ንኸውን?

            ምስ ሰላምታ

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            ጠበልበል ኢልካዶ ናባይ መጺእካ 🙂 በል ናዓና ዘገድሰና ከማኻን ከማኻን ዝኣመሰሉ ን ሓንጊሮም ኣስመራ ክኣትው ሕልሚ እይ::

            Peace!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሰላም
            ‘ንታይ ደኣ’ዩ ኸ እይ?
            እዩ ማለትካ ድዩ? Just kidding man 🙂
            ነታ ግሔን ጊሐን ናይ ዓንተቦይ ከዘክረካ ስለስደለኹ ‘ዩ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Don’t worry about my generations, already the torch have passed to our young generation – the Yeakil generation. Don’t lose your sleep worrying about us.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            እቲ መለስ ሓዲጉልካ ዝኽደ ሽግሲ ንዓኻ ድኣ ዝሓወይ እንዱሑር ተሕልፎ ኣለኻ ካኣ ገበን ኣብርእሲ ገበን እዩ::

            Peace!

          • Saleh Johar

            Peace, a few things.
            1 I was just hinting that we have more to worry about than the never-ending obsession. with Weyane, just a simple reminder.
            2 Try to add something to the table and if you want to remain a one topic activist, what if I suggest a page for you limited to your favorite topic?.
            3. Please stop emotional, better to talk about yourself– there is no way to quantify who wants peace more than the other.
            4. Kindly help in preventing the deterioration of the discussions here, just an appeal.

            Thank you, PEACE

          • Peace!

            Hi Saleh

            1 Noted, with thanks.
            2 Noted. I hope the same message goes to those who are obsessed with Abi and ነቶም ህዝቢ ትግራይ ጉልባብ ተጠቒሞም ንወያነ ኩቑዙሙላ ዝውዕሉ::
            3 That was not the underlying point. With all due respect, I disagree with portraying conscripted kids, perhaps child soldiers, as part of the PFDJ gangs. ምስቶም ቁንጣሮ ኣብ ላዕሊ ዘለው ኣይትሓውሶም እየ ዝበልኩ. Nonetheless, If that minor point bothers you more, I stand corrected.
            4 I reminded Emma his record respectfully and the rest is a reply to the personal attacks against me. Not sure what triggered you to come up with an appeal. If you’re pressured, I totally understand and I am sorry I put you on such position. ምስ ዘየታሓድር ኣይተማሲ ከምዝባሃል:)

            Peace!

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Peace,
            This circular arguments and fault finding is not safe for the platform. I just wish all knew when to stop when a discussion becomes a meaningless squabble. My interest is not to hinder a sane discussion and we don’t encourage meaningless tit-for-tat. And yes, I was advising you to widen your topics–you hardly discuss anything but Meles and Weyane. And I know you can add value to the discussion only if you restraint yourself from engaging in endless circular arguments that you know leads to nowhere and is damaging to the quality of the platform. Thanks for understanding

          • Saleh Johar

            መሃድስ ጉድ ኣምጺእካ? ኣብ ዓዲ ሃሎ ጊሐ ተሰሪሑ’ሎ ማለት’ዯ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ትዝዓበየ! 🙂

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ተረጊጡ ማዕጾ ገዛይ
    መፍትሕ ገዛ ግን
    ኣይነበረን ምሳይ

    ሰራሒ መፍትሕ ክደሊ
    ነዊሕ ግዜ ሓሊፉ
    ቅያር ኔሩኒ ‘ተዝኸውን ኣብ ገሊኡ
    ወይ ከኣ ማዕጾ ‘ተዝሰብሮ ብኣጋኡ
    ጽግዕተኛ ኣይምኾንኩን
    ክሳራይ መጉደልኩ

    ሽዑኡስ ትዝ ኢሉኒ
    ናይ ሃገርና
    እታ መፍትሕ ድያ ተሳኢና

    ዶ ዋላስ ሰራሒ መፍትሕ ጠፊኡ
    ህድማ ጌሩ
    ሃገሩ ገዲፉ
    ከም ሰቡ

    እሞ ኸ ደኣ?

    • haileTG

      He MM, nice poem! here is a joke I heard is circulating in Meqele –

      ክልተ ወየንቲ ከምዚ ኢሎም ይማኸሩ

      እቲ ቐዳማይ – ኣንታ ሻዕቢያ’ስ ማናኩ ጭልፋን ድስትን አንድያ ትሰርቕ ዘላ
      ካልኣይ ድማ – እዋእ እሞ ኣሜሪካ ከይትሰምዕ እምበር ተጠንቀቑ
      ቐዳማይ ድማ – ትስማዕ እምበር ከመይ ዘይትሰምዕ
      ካልኣይ ድማ – ማለተይ’ሲ ኣሜሪካ እንተፈሊጣ ሓዚና ንዖኦም ከይትሕግዞም ኢለ’የ በሎ 🙂

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat haileTG,
        Funny! Nice ending 🙂

  • Brhan

    Selmat Awatistas

    US Special Envoy Mr. Jeffey Feltman for the Horn of Africa to visit Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, and Kenya from May 31 to June 06, 2021 (1)

    1.The US will encourage the UAE and Saudi Arabia to pump money in the pockets of DIA and A.Ahmed Ali, but with the spirit of the recent resolution: S.Res.97.

    2.Unlike the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, Qatar has been absent from the DIA and A. Ahmed Ali drama. Still, the recent Ethiopian high delegation visit led by Ethiopia deputy foreign minister Redwan Hussien to Qatar, according to me, made Mr. Feltman pass by Qatar to give the same message to Qatar too.

    3. The United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia are close allies of the US regardless of who is in the White-house. I think the allegation of the UAE’s participation in the Tigray war with its drones has to do with a green light given by the Trump admin who supported Ethiopia in its fight against TPLF. Again, the UAE left its base in Assab Eritrea, where the drones embarked, with the coming of the Biden admin that opposed the war.

    4. Because these rich countries have good relations with the horn of African countries, including Ethiopia ( known to have rough ties with the Arabs ), the US will encourage them to play their positive role in GERD and the Ethio-Sudan border issue. But also, this role has to have a role in implementing the resolution.

    5. Kenya has now become the sweetheart of the US in the horn of Africa. Ethiopia failed in this regard; then, the center of the logistics of the US will be Nairobi not only to contain the Al Shabab but also any other outlaw wanted cowboy in the region.

    ( ምቑንጣጥ መርዓት ዶ ኮነ ነገሩ)
    That is my take about the upcoming visit, and I would love to see other participant’s takes
    1) June 01, 2021, Al Sharq Al Awsat English Newspaper

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Brhan,

      Kenya had and has the biggest US Embassy staff from East and South East African countries. The head office of USAID for East and South East African countries is in Nairobi since the 70s. Kenya was and is the center of US diplomatic maneuvering in the region. I use to work with USAID in Sudan, in early 80s before I come to the US, and we were reporting to Nairobi. So there is no a diplomatic shift from Ethiopia to Kenya as Ethiopia wasn’t the center of American diplomacy in the region.

      • Brhan

        Selam Professor Amanuel,
        Thank you for your take on the news.
        By shift, I mean the file of HoA security. As you remember, that file was in the hands of Ethiopia of the PMMZ era. The other day I was listening to Shaleka Dawit, who said A. Ahmed Ali’s diplomatic missions are about consular issues, making Ethiopia lose its historical western allies, particularly the US.

      • Brhan

        Hello, Professor Amanuel
        There is an interesting article ( you might have read it).The Fleeting Promise of a Peaceful Ethiopia. The Atlantic, April 29, 2021, (The Atlantic dot com) Due to the significance of the article Aljazeera has translated it to Arabic.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Merhaba Haw Brhan,

          I read it once. It is a very interesting article of must be read. I will revisit it again to read it to see how the current realities evolved vis-a-vis their assessment, since it’s Publishment.

          Thank buddy.

          Regard

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ትርጉም ምንባረይ ረሲዐ
    ከም ሰበይ
    ኣብቲ ነዊሕ መስርዕ ተሰሪዐ
    ሰሲዐ

    ዓሰርተ ትእዛዛት ከማን
    ከተግብር ኣይከኣልኩን
    ሰብ ጾማ ‘ናሓደረት
    ገሊኣን ከኣ ኣብ ጻዕረ-ሞት
    ብዂናት ብጥሜት ብስደት

    ናተይ ነገር
    መኪና ኣሪጋትኒ ኢለ ከንጸርጽር
    ረሲዐዮ
    ምስ ነብሰይ ክመክር
    ረሲዐዮ
    ኣነ ኣብ ዓራተይ
    ገለን ከኣ ኣብ ግዳም ትሓድር

    ኣይጠዓኹን

  • Bayan Negash

    DEBATE Or DIALOGUE- That’s Today’s Question.

    Allow me to offer my reason as everyone has his/her reasons for joining the awate forum. I enter to the forum, mostly, to engage about the subject matter that interest me for which I may have written an article or based on other featured pieces at the time I choose to discuss issues. I come in with an open mind bereft of any assumptions, to the extent that that is possible to do so. I see the forum as a virtual market place of ideas. What this will mean is that I am open to change my opinion when someone makes a compelling argument about which it may not have occurred to me prior to my reading the convincing note.

    So, the question that the above raises in my mind is this: Should the justice camp come into this forum armed to DEBATE or to have a DIALOGUE about issues that communally concerns Eritreans and Eritrea? If the former, then, there will continue to be an eternal battle as each and every one will remain entrenched in their original position no matter what. Nobody with such a mindset comes to lose in a debate setting nor to admit when they lose in a battle of ideas. Debating does not offer any wiggling room to build on one’s ideas by accepting others’ input. As majority in this forum are in the opposition camp, it behooves us to resort to a conversation style of dialogue.

    In conversations, there are no winners or losers but plenty of wiggling room to grow and build our collectives thoughts toward a higher level of understanding between and among the justice camp. In fact, justice seekers should not touch the debating format with a ten-foot pole because not only it is counterproductive for the cause but ineffective to bring anybody to our camp. Debating is more suited when one has a country with political parties competing to win voters to their respective side. The justice camp should be inviting others to come to have a conversation. It is during conversations when we will be able to win minds and hearts. For example, I was enjoying the dialogue that forumers were having a few days ago, in which Hashela interjected in the conversation. Suddenly, it appeared to me, anyway, the conversation turned personal. Now, I don’t know if Hashela is in the justice camp or is Eritrean regime supporter. If the latter, then, we should even be more welcoming to engage such individuals than those who already are in the opposition camp. I saw nothing in Hashela’s assertion veiled or open hostility towards anyone when Desbele interjected to warn him about the proverbial broom that Sal Y. said the year 2021 was going to be. Now, I know neither of the individuals mentioned here other than when they intermittently engage in the forum. Peace, Mez, and others joined in. I don’t know the dynamism involved to understand it deeply, but it seemed like there was past disagreements creeping in the way of the current dialogue causing each to resort to their respect positions, thereby, causing for the subject to die down.

    Cheers,
    P..S. Kbur Haw Amanuel Hidrat. You use the term debate a great deal, but I’m not necessarily thinking about you when I am raising the issue of debate vs. dialogue. This is meant for the forum to exhaust the issue and see if a consensus can be reached that will change the kind of dialogue we will have moving forward.

    • Abi

      Hello Beyan
      Reading your each and every comment is like listening to my favorite songs ( too many to count) on a repeat mode.

      • Bayan Negash

        Hey Abi,
        Precision is your asset. In a sentence, you precisely say it what would take me a paragraph to explain. I may have missed your response, but I did share with you Tariku’s song that I must have been in “a repeat mode”, for I listened to it a dozen times over the weekend.
        Egziher yisTiligne yene geta!

        • Abi

          ወንድም በያን
          የቐንየለይ ሓወይ
          Sorry for the belated response regarding the beautiful song with even more beautiful and strong message. My First Lady loves the song and the singer so much that I am kind of worried:)
          Just like you, she put him on a repeat mode on the big screen. She dance with him like there is no one watching:)

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላማት Dr. በያን

      በያን በየነ ምብያን
      ምክታዕ ዶ ምልዛብ
      ምቁያቕ ዶ
      ኢሂን-ምሂን ምባል
      ሓሳባት ምቅብባል
      ድሕሪ ነዊሕ ዘተ
      ናይ ሓሳብ ምቅይያር
      ኣብ ሓደ ባይታ ምዕሳል

      ዶ ‘ልካ ሓቀይ?
      ማሕረ

      • Bayan Negash

        Selam MM,
        The beauty to the art of poetry is that it gives its inventor a license to play with words. Names are a fare game to convert from noun to an active verb, to an adjective, to a passive voice, to an active voice…in the end delivering using economy of words.

    • Aman Y.

      Selam Haw Beyan
      The other day, I opened a dialogue asking you if, you believe, there was an intermission between pre and post independence Eritrean struggle. This is considering majority/minority of the people Assuming you do not, based on your essay. Both of us will need to justify our testimonies before we rest our case. Thus leading us in to debate. Can we really avoid debating? While you are there can you say something about.
      1. Integrative debating
      2. Global and local reductionism
      In Habesha context. I have hard time grasping the latter.

      • Bayan Negash

        merHaba Haw Aman Y.,
        You make a good point about the inevitability of debating in forums such as this where individuals are free to roam in any direction they wish to travel dialogue-wise. The key point I was trying to home in on is that every point we make shouldn’t be about hammering one another as though our words were the hammer and that of our interlocutors nails that must be nailed. Debating in a midst of a dialogue is unavoidable. The overarching aim ought to not be to out-debate one another if we are going to learn from one another.

        Let me indulge little on the second point for now, notions of “global and local reductionism”. Perhaps, someone can tackle it in a much comprehensive way as it can get to the central issues that Abi had asked for the forum visitors and residents alike to refrain from sharing unverified news bylines. It appears your number 2 fits the bill in the challenges we have all been facing with unverified testimonies, concocted and doctored testimonies by individuals and groups that later turned out to be made for propaganda purposes. I can see how this might be a useful tool to get a good grasp of. For now though let me resort to a quick google search. According to Quizlet, here is how it is explained:

        “Reductionism (tend to be internalists).
        -Hearers must have sufficiently good reasons for accepting speaker’s testimony.
        -Hearer’s must have observed a strong correlation between the facts and testimony, the absence of defeaters is not enough.
        -Hearers’ testimonial justification is explained in terms of an observed relationship between testimony and the facts. Thus testimonial justification is REDUCED to other types of justification- EG: perception, memory and inference.

        Global vs local reductionism.

        Global reductionism: hearer must have good reasons for believing testimony in general is reliable.
        Local reductionism: hearer must have good reasons for believing particular speaker’s testimony in this particular case is reliable”

    • haileTG

      Merhaba Bayan,

      I was recently thinking if there is another Eritrean forum like Awate. Don’t worry, I wasn’t looking to move:-) It just occurred to me that there use to be few places such as Dehai forum, Asmarino, Visafric, Assena, that attracted diverse participation (leaving out the regime mouthpieces as Tesfanews, alenalki, Maedot Meadna..). Dahai degenerated into regime mouthpiece, the other three either moved on (Assena) or closed down (Asmarino & Visafric).

      Dialog seems more prominent on those managed forum such as the regime mouthpieces. Debate is/was more typical and heated form of exchange in those free/justice seeking forums. Dialog (more like structured dialog) requires facilitator. It seems a means most useful in directing multiple perspectives to the same problem into a unified search for a solution by consensus. The facilitator is needed to direct the traffic. Debate can (sort of) take place autonomously.

      Awate, as the lone survivor of the era of such form of interactions, is likely to attract a diverse groups of participants with diametrically opposing views and end goals. Dialog may happen, debate also happens to the most extent, there are also conversations and chitchat happening in its secluded corners. Such a rich form of interaction may sometimes be tough on the moderators but as they say ሓጓብ’ሲ ኣዳቅሳኡ ባዕሉ ይፈልጣ! And, the AT deserve credit for managing it however way they do it. IMO it would be difficult to make this forum into dialog based exchange, as doing so implies that all participants are working towards the same goal. At the same time, those of us with such similarity of goals should indeed dialog. What we should all adhere to is however universal principles as fairness, honesty, truth, empathy, respect and the likes. These values are displayed to good measure here but there is always room to improve.

      • Bayan Negash

        Selamat Haile TG,

        Interesting quick survey of the various virtual shops. Those that closed their shops. Those that dissipated into oblivion. Those that early on decided becoming a mouthpiece to the Eritrean regime was the way to go. Those that are in a life-support as they are in that twilight zone – ay motu ay-TaAyu, their websites are frozen in space and time.

        The thorough distinguishing features you gave among the various forms of interaction modes is laudable. It is entirely possible that a little bit of each form of interaction could be taking place spontaneously. I can see how that can be a monumental challenge for the moderators of the forum. While at times it could also seem they appear to be a bit haphazard to the average forumer while the moderators probably behind the scene could’ve dealt with that individual many times over before the banning. For example, I had no idea that Nitricc, Hope, and several others were banned from the forum. I thought they were in a hiatus just like we all voluntarily do from time to time to attend to our respective responsibilities of real life.

        • haileTG

          Hey Bayan,

          ah…banning is I guess the most heart wrenching violence the moderators have to carryout for the safety of the forumers:-) You see, sometimes we form attachments with our bitter opponents and when you see the moderator going to them with that dreaded dagger, it becomes difficult to watch. No wonder the moderators have unusually lengthy warnings, pleading, begging before dropping the chopper on the neck. መሰኪን ነቶም ዝተረፍና ሓልዮም እምበር ኣንጊሆም ጉምድ መበልዎም ነይሮም:-)

          • Bayan Negash

            Dear Haile TG,
            Indeed, the integrity of the forum requires a great deal of skills, they have to do it delicately, intricately, diplomatically, and with ample reservoir of patience. In the end, the question of fairness will loom and hover over their shoulders by those of us who do not see the day-to-day behind the scene that gets done. The process is long and arduous one for the moderators. As for the rest of us we only see the outcome, hence the smooth discourse that is discussed here without a hitch.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-TG,

            Unruly individuals must be banned in order to have a clean conversation or dialogue or debate, however we see the purpose of this forum or medium of interactions. I know many meaningful individuals who were active have become spectators from outside, simply of the behavior of some members of the forum. Moderators wanted this forum the place of decent and honest dialogue or debate. And I think they made it now. Trolling is not a debate and nothing we could gain from trollers,

            Regard

    • Brhan

      Merhaba Ustaz Beyan,
      Your input is a pat on the back to awate moderators who come at the right time to rescue for the sake of all those good values you mentioned.

      • Bayan Negash

        Selamat Brhan,

        That was not in my mind, but you are the second person to make that connection in how intricately my comments are connected to the moderators selfless efforts to keep the forum decent, clean, and vibrant. I can see clearly now.

        • Brhan

          Merhaba Beyan

          As you have indicated, all are welcome, including pro-government, but all have to stop from labeling, personal attack and intentional distractions that are polluting the forum and giving the moderators hard times
          1) Labeling someone who challenges the gov’t and its policies as Weyane or Tigraway, or TPLF activists. As you know, recently, Major General Tekeste Haile ( wedi Halie) received that label from pro gov’t social media.
          2) Personal attacks, Attacking a person, instead of challenging his or her idea/initiative: SAAY was told: “not to waste his time” working on the GiE initiative.
          3) Intentional distraction: There are many, but you might have encountered attempts to make symbols that come with titles of written materials the only point of the discussion. I do not have a problem with commenting on a logo, but that must not be at the expense of the critical messages of the written materials. This attempt is nothing but a desperate attempt to distract commentators from discussing the content of the written material. Another example is abusing terms such as “fake news/ info” to discourage commentators who share info or news that they bring from credible news sources such as Al Jazeera, CNN, BBC, etc.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            In my opinion, the quality of a website such as our own Awate depends on the fact based discussion or debate or dialogue or bickering…
            Wasting valuable time and space based on a fake news degrade the quality of the discussion and the website in general.
            The current fake news circulating in this website is a textbook example of waste of time and energy. After the source of the fake news retracted the fake news, and after other news outlets apologized for not being a little bit more careful before dispensing the fake news, here the best and the brightest Awatistas continued discussing and upvoting each other.
            I believe we all support the moderators in sanitizing the room from toxic and distracting fake news.

          • Saleh Johar

            Selam Abiy,
            In addition to the technical problems they cause, spam, virus, etc, fake news in the reason for banning outside links. The Awate Team doesn’t like to provide a platform for trolls and irresponsible people peddling fake news. It seems now we have a consensus. We wish people will stop posting links that lead to such content. We hope members here will restraint themselves before we block all links.

            We are also thinking of rejuvenating Gedab News, but we will need your help there. Details coming soon.

            Thank you.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሳልሕ

            ንዓቢ ዓርገንን ንኮለኔል ኣቢ ዝወቅስ
            ብቢቢሲ ሲኤንኤን መስለቲ ዝተጻሕፈ
            ፌክ ኒውስ ካብ ተባህለ
            ንእዝኒ ገሊኦም
            ሕርኽርኽ ዝፈጥረሎም

            ናይ መን ደኣ’ዩ’ሞ
            ቅኑዕ ዜና?
            ብዘይ ማይ ክንጎስሞ

            ዚኣስ ናይ ትራምፕ መሲላ
            ——-ደስ ዘይትብሎ
            ፌክ ኒውስ ክብላ
            ሕጂ ግዳ ትዊተር ደሓን ትእቶ
            ——ድምጹ ሃቲሙ ዋላ ፈውሲ ማሕላ
            ዝ ፌክ ኒውስ ትብልሲ
            —–ዳግማይ ሕሰበላ

            I am not underestimating the technical problems some link cause, spam, virus, etc. However, lately, some people tend to say fake news when they don’t like the subject presented. I thought we had mercy since the orange man is gone but we see similar portrait starting here. Killing, raping, famine in Tigray is not fake. It is real.

          • Saleh Johar

            Correct MM,
            I also know that many consider awate.com a provider of fake news, depending on how they like the news, not on factual or non factual content. But do repeat and expand on any news you believe, even if it’s is from the PFDJ (good luck finding informative news there:-) The bottom line is that people should exercise self-restraint and self control. And that is the gist of my message, but challenge it we must in many ways. And no one is telling you which is fake news and which is not, it’s your own judgment. Trust this ship is not swayed one way or another unless there is a compelling reason to do so.

          • Aman Y.

            Selam

            ዓርገን እንታይ ማለት እዩ?

          • Saleh Johar

            Aman Y,
            I am smiling! Since no one mentioned it since I brought it up, I thought most people knew its meaning. Now I am curious how many meanings we can get for it. Let’s wait and see what Awatistas would come up with, particularly for HaileS who has a reference on everything under the sun 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saleh,

            Everythjng under the sun? Merci! ግን ኣውሒድካለይ😁. Frankly, you have all references under the sun in your memory than anyone else. I mean it!

            Having said that, Saleh, be careful of what you bring and you visually associate with. Now in this visual time, if one googles ዓርገን, your Negarit 71 comes first. And the biggest image there aside and beside the word is yours😁. Most people don’t read, they interpret images. To distance myself from such people, this time, I am not saying anything on your last Negarit No 131 with ኣቢይ ኣፈ-ወርቅ and the constipated rat (ትጽዓር ዘላ ኣንጭዋ)!

            Now on ዓቢ ዓርገን: ዓርገን, based on Tekie’s dictionary, the closest word is ዓርገገ(ግ) means ትሕት ዝበለ ረጒድ ድምጺ. I suspect (ዓቢ) ዓርገን was derived from it, meaning a grumbler.

          • Saleh Johar

            Thank you HaileS,
            (comment transferred to the appropriate content/Saleh).

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Aman Y.

            Negarit 71: ዓቢ ዓርገን – The Idiot – this is the best answer. please copy and google it.

            KS,,

          • Aman Y.

            Wendim Abi
            Please please please…stop your reductionist straw man argument. It is futile to defend the indefensible-brutes. After seven months of AI and AA’s blunders Tigray has:
            1. 1.6 mil. displaced people of which seven hundred twenty thousand minors
            2. 5.2 mil in need of emergency food
            3. Over 540 reported rapes of women and girls helped by UNICEF. According Abbay media another over 500 reported at Aider hospital of which over two hundred impregnated.
            4. 6000 children separated from parents and the war continues.

            Source: WFP, UNICEF, Abbay Media

          • Abi

            Hello Aman Y
            You brought the fake news as a Memorial Day present. Some gullible readers consumed the disgraced news with their barbecue over the long weekend. I didn’t. I pleaded with you not to insult our intelligence. The fake news proved to be just a fake news. The source of the fake news retracted the news along with many overzealous media outlets.
            It is time for you to apologize for bringing the fake news to Awatenation.
            ተሳስተህ አታሳስት!

          • Aman Y.

            Wendem Abi

            የትኛው ነው ስህተት
            በነፍስ አባት የሚያስገዝት

            በማይ ጸብሪ፣ በሺረ፣ በአድዋ በእክሱም፣ ….
            በመቀሌ አንድም ሰው አልገደልንም …
            በፍጹም አልዘረፍንም…
            ኤርትራ አልገባችም…

            ና ወንድሜ ምንም አይበጅ
            ለበዳዮች ነገረ ፈጅ

            ሕዝብና መንግስት ሆኖ ተባይ
            ጥፋት ይሚደግፍ በአደባብይ
            ይሄ አስከፊ ጭካኔ በትግራይ
            ሆኖብኛል ከአእምሮ በላይ

            ሴቲቱ ስትደፈር
            ንጽሁ ደሞ ሲበላ በአረር
            አቤት ጩኽቱ እሪታው
            በየከተማው የሚያስጋባው

            ሰቆቃዋን እያሳነሱ
            ደምዋን አፈር እያለብሱ
            የህጻን እምባ ሳይዳብሱ
            የተራበ ሳያጎርሱ
            የምን ወንድምት..ዜግነት ነው እሱ?

          • Abi

            Hello Aman Y
            This is what I call a fake news that you generously and eagerly shared for the Memorial Day weekend.
            You said, “Please watch AA’s leaked remark at the end of the current executive PP meeting at Kello Media. It is the current breaking news. He said “ we have already won the election… there will be blood shade… I would rather die than give my power for the next 10 years…”

            As I said earlier, Kello Media has retracted the above fake news that you rushed to share with us . You earned a record 4 upvotes with at least 5 great and not so great ( ከሊቅ እስከ ደቂቅ) Awatista discussing it.

            Now, be a Man and apologize for sharing the news that has been debunked just like the many fake news before.
            “ሳያጣሩ ወሬ ሳይገድሉ ጎፈሬ”
            ምንድን ነው ይህ ለወሬ መቸኮል?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selma Aman Y,

            Besides the sources you have listed, CNN, BBC, Washington post, NY times, Reuters, FN, the Economist, the Atlantic ,…etc are fake news outlets. The only factual news are that comes out from the mouth piece of the Ethiopian government. How dare you bring the fake news from the above news outlets and international institutions to misinform us. Aman, that is the nature of the twisted world we are living in.

            Regard

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Mekusi
            Indeed! The Ethiopian government has no moral ground to unjustly accuse other media for reporting fake news. After all, they have been feeding us all wrong information. But, the local media is awakening and challenging the government as well as the public. በትሪ ሓቂ ትቐጥን እምበር አይትስበርን

            with Respect

    • Haile S.

      Selam Beyan,

      As usual your cuisine is delicious. It doesn’t stop from adding savor!

      Despite all the religious fasts ended recently, this time you came up with የጾም በያይነቱ (variety plate). The table is rich, colorful and beautiful. Everyone is enjoying & tasting the particular dish infront. Some crossing the aile, spicing the conviviality, to taste their favorite. My favorite is the one that you placed on top in the center, the star dish, the ኣልጫ ዓይኒ ዓተር (split-pea pot-au-feu).

      To prepare such a dish and the rest, you went to the market to buy the ingridients. You look for the best. You have high regard for your ዓሚል (favorite retaillers), but your priority are your hosts. For example, waizero Lemlem, the best tender san-marzoni tomato merchant sometimes mixes less quality soft ones; therefore you go to her neighbor. But you never fail to complement her of her effort and tell her when she holds bad quality vegetable. The same with wedi-BeKit the best condiment seller of that street. Your interest is to please the consumer of your art. When you are cuisining such variety, you don’t like someone coming to tell you, ሽዕርያ (spaghetti) would have been better, spoiling your day. You don’t discourage him, but nicely tell him to consider it for another time. Communication through the tongue! Voilà! Here you go!

      • Bayan Negash

        Selam Haw Haile S.,

        In a word, a scrumptious read. What a delightful thing to see in print from a virtual marketplace of ideas to a real marketplace where food is used as a metaphor that vividly describes from scratch. The sellers and buyers interact, communicate, bargain, and have that freedom to move freely from one vendor to the next while maintaining that modicum of respect with one another.

        It should be added, too, that window shopping is also par for the course in which individuals who simply enjoy the hustle and bustle of a marketplace they stroll, not troll, from one shop to the next, enjoying the ambiance of human interactions. Why can’t dialogues, conversations, and debates be that scrumptiously joyous endeavor as opposed to this unbelievably taxing exercise in futility? Just wondering out loud.

        Haile S., you are a wordsmith. Thanks for this inviting metaphor of using መኣዲ ዘተ ብመኣዲ ምግቢ one that each human type does as something sacred in private and communally as well. What a uniting concept.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Beyan,

          Your “market place of ideas” gave me the idea. Deliciousl! You just added a dessert, a mille-feuille (ሚል- ፈይ) (word by word meaning thousand layers).

          መኣዲ ዘተ ብመኣዲ ምግቢ! ምቁር ኣበሃህላ
          የቐንየለይ!

          • Bayan Negash

            merHaba Haile S.,

            ሓሳብ ንሓድሽ ሓሳብ ይወልድ ልክዕ ከምቲ ንዘረባ ዘረባ ዘምጵኦ… that’s what’s uniquely beautiful about this forum.
            Genzebka ezi Hawway.

    • Desbele

      Selam Beyan,

      Your suggestion for conversation type of dialogue instead of debate is a useful tip.
      Engaging regime supporters?, Good luck with that. Happy to learn how to have normal conversations with a group who are hell bent defending their Adi Halo”demigod,” Cult deprogramming is way to go for me. Expensive project for Eritrea but a must.

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Below the Standard governments
    do offer not that much at all.

    If Homeland HoA in general AND Eritrean and Ethiopian
    social, economic & diplomatic political dynamics is like
    this what we see it now, it is so depressing and not my type
    or style of politics and I choose better leave it alone and
    do follow other career paths in the private sector or foreign
    country offers.

    I never expected it to be this way regressing and deteriorating
    after so much boost and investment made by many. It drained
    empty in a short period of time all the water it had been holding.
    It seems it is being settling for less or to accept the bottom of
    the offer even much much less of the prior offers and choices
    given to or made available to them.

    Thus I would be happy to distance myself, resign from and posts
    I held and lead and look for other choices and offers somewhere
    abroad or in the private sectors once and for all.

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Amanuel Paulos,

      Allow me to start with a question: Is this the prolific Dr. Paulos? This is my first time to see a first name associated to the last name. Either way, to your point about our region in general and Eritrea and Ethiopia in particular.

      The brain drain is nothing new for Eritrea and Ethiopia. Several years back I remember reading there were more Ethiopian doctors leaving a gaping professional hole. In fact, there maybe more Ethiopian doctors in in the US than there are in the nation of Ethiopia. Eritrea and Ethiopia used to give free university education to only find out that its educated elites would leave it in droves. That’s not hard to fathom why: They rather live abroad so they can not only earn more but also breath and live freely without having to see their lives turning upside down overnight as what we are seeing in Tigray today. Unstable governance is one major obstacle in the HoA.

      You appear to have the option of leaving. Wishing you all the best in future endeavors. It’s sad but true that professionals from various sectors will begin to leave our region letting the morons and the embiciles with no know how leading their nations straight to the abyss.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Beyan,

        This is not Dr Paulos. It is not even close to his writing styles and articulation with notable depth of knowledge. I think this is “AMAN” who use to write his name with upper case. I think Abi has recognized him well.

        Regard

      • Dongolo

        Selam Beyan Negash. Brain Drain is in fact nothing new for Africa as a whole and for the same reasons that democracy largely does not work in Africa : 24 of 25 countries with the highest birth rates in the world are from the continent. Democracy has little chance to succeed when a country is confronting unsustainable population growth and the demands of sheltering, feeding and providing them with employment and adequate social services that comes with it.

        • haileTG

          Hi Dongolo,

          On a positive note, Africa has the lowest population density with the greatest of natural resources. That means huge potential for growth. The catch-22 is however, lack of good governance. How do you achieve sustainable growth without making governance accountable? If democracy doesn’t succeed, nor can sustainable growth??

          • Dongolo

            Selam Haile TG. It’s good not to loose optimism for the Africa but its track record is poor and challenges are immense. Unsustainable population growth coupled with rapid urban migration is making it near impossible for the UN to achieve Its SDGs just as it failed with MDGs. Initiatives as as South-South, REACH and SUN are likewise faltering. The US version of Democracy (which is resulting in its dramatic downgrading in global raking re quality of life over the past 2 decades) is not a suitable fit but maybe some Democratic-Socialist hybrid model might merit consideration. In regards to Eritrea, yes it has significant untapped resources. Surprising to many, Eritrea’s population continues to grow and it now estimated at 3.59 million compared to an estimated 2.26 million in 1991.

  • Aman Y.

    Peaceful Memorial day to all

    The most appropriate comparison between IA and MZ on a Memorial day could be the number of the bellwethers and other veterans of the struggle imprisoned, made to disappear and killed by IA vs PMZ. I would rather compare IA to AA.

    Please watch AA’s leaked remark at the end the current executive PP meeting at Kello Media. It is the current breaking news. He said ” we have already won the election…there will be blood shed…I would rather die than give my power for the next 10 years…”

    • Abi

      Hello Aman Y
      Please please please please please ….
      Patrons of this website are smarter than the smartest ወያኔ activist. Again, please refrain from insulting the residents and visitors or this university. We love our home that we collectively call Awatenation!!!!!

      • Aman Y.

        Selam Abi
        “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
        Not to speak is to speak.
        Not to act is to act.”

        ― Dietrich Bonhoeffer

        “እንቁስ በር በእምባ ተገደር አ’ሞተ ሰው ምሰል”

        I apologize if I offended any one. As all know, IA was as popular as AA the first three years, until he faced his demons on the Jehovah witnesses , disabled veterans etc. incidents with the majority clapping for him and with out much notice. My stand on him is based on my personal experiences when I worked in the peripheries of Eritrea. Where I noticed what really was happening to the ranking fighters who complained and rallied because of their living condition.

        ” In April 1993, when soldiers demonstrated after being told they would have to do another two years’ unpaid work” (6). Swiss Review of World Affairs also reported that “shortly before the referendum on independence [April 23-25], 10,000 ex-guerrillas occupied the Asmara airport, forcing Eritrean President Issaias Afewerki to personally request an end to the action” (2 Oct. 1995). Following the demonstration, more than 100 alleged ringleaders were secretly court martialled–at least 50 received goal sentences of over four years and most others, of one to three years. Issayas later said the sentences were too light. After a thorough going purge of the army, hundreds of fighters were given harsh sentences, some of them served in old EPLF prisoner-of-war camps

        I met one of the fighters(ranked equivalent to Col.) fetching water with the national service soldiers in Mah Mimet Sahel.

        Sadly, I came also across my child hood friend guarding a check point between Keren and Afe’abet. My friend, a muscular, son of trucks garage owner, was literally, physically and mentally demented. He was not himself at all. I hope and pray he is well.

        It is an honor for you to call me a Woyane activist. But, I consider my self an activist against any tyranny and injustices. I might have lost my families house, business and more because of Woyane. I wonder what they did to you.

        I have been Tigray twice in the last four years. The purpose of my trip was to help organize a medical(mostly dental) for the Eritrean refugees. I had been to most of the warring areas from Axum, Adwa, Shire to Mai Tsebri.
        It was so peaceful and lovely from Addis all the way to Tigray. So much infrastructure and urban developments. Here is an excerpt from a self mission report.
        “We started the trip to the camps by visiting the ARRA (Administration of Refugees and Returnees Affair) for a permit to go to the camps. We presented a letter with the Ethiopian Amanuel churches letter head for permission to go to the camps. The general deputy director, Mr. Eyob Aweke, briefed us and we were granted the access.
        To go to the camps one has to fly to Axum and use land transportation to Shire which is about an hour drive. The roads were very smoothly asphalted . Shire Air Port was under construction during my visit. Kalema Hotel with its spacious and neat room, the wifi , the complementary egg/meat scrambles breakfast and the papaya juice was outstanding.
        During my visit to the Eritrean refugee camps in Ethiopia, I met a few Eritreans with good hearts trying their best to relieve their brother’s aches. From ministering through worship and preaching to encourage and edify the souls, to setting up a bible college program and train 30 leader of which 12 were from the camps. It ranged from providing soccer Jerseys and balls and setting up a soccer event to setting up a medical team and treating over 500 patients at the clinics. One help erect a flour mill as an income generating facility. Another person is helping 60 children by providing attires twice a year, a monthly supplement of nutrition as well as setting up adult mentors to guide them. During my visit to Mai Ayni Refugee camp I was told that there were about 700 (seven hundred) un-accompanied children in that camp alone. These children are growing without parental guidance and I cannot imagine what they are growing up to be. Due to my permit restriction which was related with the medical team , I was not physically able to visit the children quarters.

        The only check point I remember is on the bridge between Shire and my Tsebri, and I think that was the only place I saw weapons(two people with Kalashnikovs)

        Regards

        P.S. The Guragigna(ጉራጊግኛ) quote is taken from my good Gurage friend translated as “Be quite! and pretend like dead”. No my brother, I am not able to do that.

        • Abi

          Hello Aman Y
          My advice is for you or anyone in this website to bring only a confirmed news . I don’t understand this rushing attitude to share every garbage to the forum. This is a very special place that truly attracts smart people. Leave the garbage for garbage websites. We ,residents and visitors alike, should help the website remain intact by bringing information that is worthy of the high standards the website trying to achieve.
          Now that the fake news that you generously and eagerly shared has been debunked, you need to apologize to the forum.
          Thanks

          • Brhan

            Abi
            I believe you have been given a yellow card by the moderator and you are still in your attitude of character assassination.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Nobody shows ልዑል ራሥ አቢ a yellow card.
            You wasted the new phrase you just learned in a wrong situation.
            Try a little harder.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Well you are just going the wrong way and expediting the awate visa sanction to be implemented upon you

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Glad you are not the moderator who gives and denies visas based on cult mentality.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Here you are indirectly attacking the awate moderator. If you are denying that you were warned several times, go back and check it. Awate keeps its records!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I already know that comprehension is not your strength.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            I already know that attitude is your weakness!

          • Peace!

            Hi Brhan,

            Take it easy this forum is good enough for everyone. I remember the last exchange the great Amde had was with you. Plus Ethiopians are not the reason for the unbearable failures. Nebskan Mekalistikan Fetish.

            Peace!

          • Brhan

            Hi Peace,
            I am afraid that I had that exchange. ደሓር ድማ ኣነ ዘገድስኒ ሓሳባት ሰባት እምበር እንታይነቶም ኣይኮነን
            ሰላም ዓለይክ

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Wendem Abi

            Let’s wait and see. No need to rush and echo AA’s responses. Don’t you remember the countless denials አንድም ሰው አልገደልም፤የኤርትራ ጦር አለባም፤ etc….

          • Abi

            Hello Aman Y
            “የጅብ ችኩል ቀንድ ይነክሳል” ይላሉ የታች ቤት ዘመዶችህ::
            You are the one desperately rushing to dispense the fake news.

          • Hashela

            Selam Abi

            Like the University of California, it seems that Awate University abandoned the consideration of GRE as key admission parameter. It seem that the only natural law the new Awate students know is the law of lever with which they used to open the safe (vault) of Ethiopian Federal bank

          • Abi

            Hashela
            Common sense is becoming less and less common these days with the increasing number of overzealous reporters who rush to beat the next guy with their fake news.

          • Peace!

            Good morning Abish,

            It is tough when one has a noble cause to resist but suffers severely from lack of leverage despite almost the entire people are on his side. Tweets, Rumors, and Opinions are now the core ingredients to keeping the hope alive. They seem to give up on their own people.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Peace
            በአሉባልታ የሚያመጡትን ለውጥ በቅርቡ እንደሚያሳዩን አልጠራጠርም!!!

    • said

      Selam Aman Y
      I heard the video is being circulating . Abiy Ahmed declarers winning the next election based on a well pre-planned election fraud that is in place and anticipates bloodshed

      በብልፅግና የሥራአስፈፃሚ ኮሚቴ አስቸኳይ ስብስባ መዝግያ ላይ ጠቅላይ ሚንስትሩ አብይ አህመድ ያስተላለፉት ማጠቃለያ ውሳኔ ሙሉ ቃል

      • Mez

        Hi Aman Y,
        pmaa was speaking to his “power base”.

        What else do you expect him to speak except an absolute assurance that they win the election?

        This is what every one talks in a typical party convention.

        Thanks

        • haileTG

          Hey Mez,

          Hmm…..any examples to show that is standard?

          – we already have won
          – I will never hand over power regardless of death tall.
          – A task force is already operating to undermine the opposition by undemocratic measures.

          …and more

          Respectfully

          • Mez

            Hi Hile TG,

            Regarding the items you listed, we have to see what the opposition parties; the election board;… would say on this.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ሃይላት,

            “እሞታለሁ እንጂ ስልጣን አልሰጥም” ይገርማል! ራዛ ናይ ኣቡኡ ሓዛ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Prof. Emma
            Mengistu was saying the same but we have seen the end result. What one shouldn’t be surprised by this mini dictator is that he already said his mother told him he will be a king.
            He will disintegrate his country, maybe it is by design.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Mehandsay,

            You are right. I have never thought Mengistu will leave Addis the way he left it. Actually I was thinking Mengistu will fight to the end until he lose his life, leaving Addis in a bloody bath. All the signs of his language gave me those kind of impressions. Albeit he showed us that dictators have no guts to the end, rather they either escape or caught hiding in foxholes and in a water sewerages. Abiy and Issayas will face the same fate.

            Regards

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Handesa and Aman,

            The end of every dictator is the same. I don’t know why they learn from the previous one. It is always the same. It is strange why they mange to the end that way.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ኧረ ተው ኃይልሽ በጭፍን መከተሉን ተወዉ!!!
            የሃሰት ወሬዎችን ሳያጣሩ ማሰራጨት አንተን ከመሰለ የታላቆች ታላቅ የአዋተ ምሰሶ አይጠበቅም:: ታላቁን ዩኒቨርሲቲያችንን ከአሉባልተኞች መፈልፈያነት መከላከል የሁላችንም ሃላፊነት ሊሆን ይገባል::

        • said

          Hi Mez
          You meant to sent it Aman
          Abiy Prosperity Party increasingly is defined not by its shared beliefs in real democracy and honest elections but by its shared delusions in foot of PM MZ . Those who had been warning are marginal till you Find for yourself and listen video and heard your self .This dangerous precedent . former PM MZ did not presaged Ethiopia to the new era of democracy we once hoped for. There is no legacy of functioning democracy in Ethiopia after 28 years of ruling .It was one-party states PM AAA is student of PM MZ and MZ had enough time to develop Ethiopia to honest and functioning democracy as system that works as a whole, encompassing elections and all the buttressing of freedoms. These are not only fundamental human rights; they are the foundations of good governance and civilization itself.by which PM MZ do not believe in this practice and adhered to PM AA he is not different and he will not dwell on the precariousness of democracies, today there is no transition democracies , Abiy regime taking their cues former PM MZ regime time will tell? And history will judge him. And you welcome to read below my comment about former PM MZ fake elections and not to see the same repeat by PM AAA.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ሳርያም ዓርከይ
    ስለምንታይ ኴንካ ንሕና ንሱ
    ናረ ኤኻዮ ሃገርና ፈሪሱ
    ቁጠባ ለሚሱ
    ብምንታይሲ ወገሕ ጸበሐ ትብል ኢሱ?

    ዓንዳይ ዓርከይ
    ‘ንዳ ንሕና ንሱ ዝኾንኩ
    ወርጠበ ‘ንከለኹ
    ብወያነ ምስተሰጎግኩ
    ‘ታ እክንኮ ዝፈልጣ ዓዲ
    ምስ ሰኣንኩ
    ሽዑኡ ‘የ ኣበደን ዝበልኩ

    ሳርያም ዓርከይ
    እወ ጽቡቕ ኣይረኸብካን
    የግዳስ
    ምስ ህዝብኻ ኣይመኸርካን
    ‘ዛ ኹላ ኣርካን
    ምስ ዘጥፈአ ሸይጣን
    ይሓይሽ ምውጋን?

    ዓንዳይ ዓርከይ
    ኣይግድሰንን ‘ዩ ናይ ካልኦት
    ዋላ ተምለኽኩዎ ከም ጣኦት
    ወያነ ምስጠፍኡ
    ኣነ ናብ ኣዲሰይ! ከይደንጎኹ
    ክድቕደቕ ‘የ

    ዋእ! ኣንታ ሳርያም ዓርከይ
    ‘ታ ሃገርካ ‘ኸ ምስ መን ክትገድፋ?

    ዓንዳይ ዓርከይ
    ዓዲ ደኣ ‘ንታይ ምስ ተረፋ
    ንዓኣ መዓስ ኴነ ዝሃርፋ

    ከምዝሓስብኩዎ ግዳ ወያነ ምጥፋእ ኣብዮም በጃኻ ለካ።
    ቻው ግዳ። ብሩኽ መዓልቲ

    ኣየ ሳርያም
    ካን? ቶባ ደጊም!

  • said

    Greetings,
    Amanuel Hidrat And Awatista,

    what mater the most ,an Idea and Values. on the virtuous, civics- democracy, civil society, accountability, transparency , not ENTITLED to rule ,stay as long as you like, blatant dishonesty .An an Idea how to be in progressive side of history. Humanistic Idea and Values mater the most .
    Mandela Was and Idea that lives and MKL is an Idea that lives.
    What was PM MZ Idea he stood for , the whole idea? That lives today. The passionate defender of civil and human rights in the tradition of Mandela, Malcolm X, and MLK was an Idea that lives today and in the future
    By educating, mobilizing, organizing .They were the voice fighting for democracy , human rights, recognition, inclusion, and dignity. Above all for their idealism .They were fighting for truth and justice, they are at the forefront of speaking truth to power.

    “Compassion for all creatures is what really makes human beings human”, said the German-French physician, philosopher and pacifist Albert Schweitzer (1875 to 1965).
    No man in the whole world can change the truth. One can only look for the truth, find it and serve it.-Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945)
    My idea to find a sort of parallelism between Issayas and Meles, to a degree and was based on Idealism and Values that last .

    Let me clarify and sorry for long respond . How do you fight tyrants here and salute a tyrant there?
    Do we use the slogan of freedom of expression in our battles with the ruler, and in fact we do not believe in it?
    For example .are we are in solidarity with the stolen items against the thief or with thief , but we criticize the stolen for neglecting to protect his needs
    I do not claim that I am right and you are wrong, but what I will say here is what I believe in and it seems to me very clear and clear.

    The leader must make concessions for good Idea , rather he must do so to protect his movement with its values and ideals in this case TPLF, but at a certain point he must not do even if this leads to the annihilation of his movement. Because the high idea simply does not die, but by making major concessions of wrong doing it dies?
    Reject even if the price is the dissolution of your party or movement, if you are really claiming that you have humanistic idea and value , the concession that crosses the red line is the death of the idea, the dissolution of your party, the idea remains alive even if it is under the dirt, let say until God permits it to resurrect again
    There is a difference that must remain between us and the tyrants, we must never compare them. Yes, politics has its tools, but if we are honest, then we are distinguished by our principles, and if we give them up, we are equated with them.

    I wrote intensively over years No one can be compared to dictator IA, who have spread criminal fears to our ears, poisoning our hearts, minds, and souls. IA willful ignorance, lies, irrationality, stupidity, malevolence, mean-spiritedness, , treason, and incompetence, you surely know how little he is and nothing to compare to IA contempt for nation is in plain sight and so openly cruel and callous and an unrepentant warmonger and the Zealot EPLF /PFDJ hardliners betray every single ideal and principle for which Eritreans dream stands.
    30 year history of hatred and contempt for the most of Eritreans is played out in the present day. This is not speculation; most Eritrean all know these facts are well-attested and well-documented. IA evil it is the root cause of virtually all our present-day political ,economical and host of social problems, all of which have been created and exacerbated by IA and PFDJ evil men . We can scarcely imagine what life could be like without their ruling Eritrea. Eritrean with a conscience, with a sense of moral outrage, and with a larger sense of justice, Eritrean are utterly appalled at the situation in Eritrea .

    When Eritrean being living dreadful life ,in abject poverty , in delusion a false, rotten and failed system of one man rule ,in which absolutely there is no hope and chance of reform; when the same vile crimes and depredations will continue on Eritrea under either contemptible sick regime; when nothing of any economical value to Eritrean people happened even considered by either dead soul, then engaging in fine gradations of imposed evils is a lunatic’s and ridiculously inept IA PFDJ junta will not Change and Reform.

    First I never perpetrate at will and demonized Tigrayan people in any way at all to be clear ,I try to be honest, honorable critics and my criticism of that sick, evil, murderous , militarist violence which I vigorously condemn ,is the state of Ethiopia , this powerful imperial monster, and subservient to their protege and partner for long time ,the European , U.S and U.K. governments. they enabled and funded, the U.S. gifted billions of dollars for decade . It does not matter who is at top in Addis , TPLF did not change the culture and war mongering of Ethiopia rogue state that robbed, violated, and murdered helpless people. And continuing to be so today murdering innocent people in Tigray. Ethiopian army are killing for defense of their beloved criminal state forget Ethiopian armies with what you (Meles has transformed the Ethiopian military to a professional of Educated officers, with BAs, MAs, and PHDs) what happened to that army
    Army with PhD are not relevant and as you said Meles transform the industrial (military hardware ) what happened to it who looted it as can see todays war in Tigray did not spared it and you said Meles left Ethiopia with a constitutional government and regular elections, the constitutional government not full consented may be fake election to keep Mz in power indefinitely . You mostly viewed TPLF sympathetically, and this is not surprising to many of us .you have not shown MZ in his true colors. I have criticized TPLF leadership for good reason and I out lined few below

    Your standard of comparison to the bottom is Ethiopia and Tigray, is how do you measure success to Eritrea failed state ?
    There was no reason for border war. Justification for border war has taken many paths. All those paths were tainted and immoral, and all those paths led only to death and destruction. There was never a need for war; there is only a want for war. This hard fact is very disturbing to those who have been manipulated through fear to not only support and accept war, but to embrace the very concept of national pride and aggression. This I believe exposes the major failing of both IA and MZ , as the killing of others is also the killing of the human soul at large .

    It’s the same old story reputed many times. Who every ruled Ethiopia It inflicted horrors of a war that left tens of thousands innocent human beings dead . The coming of TPLF as liberator of Ethiopia with Marxist ideology and put unjust economic systems that had looted Ethiopian people for the benefit of few TPLF oligarchs and, above all for Tigrayans at large did not benefit . while millions of innocent people of Ethiopian and Tigrayans today pay heavy price. But to its credit TPLF seceded with an notion of mixed economies, modest land reforms, modest social programs and modernization and that was enough .
    I wouldn’t wish the pain and suffering to anyone, I do not have a Clear and certain narratives, as you may do . The people of Ethiopia are living in uncertain and critical times. I also criticized PM Abiy for his war on Tigrayan people and I put many link to his crime . I have no hatred for Tigray nor Ethiopian people . I criticize all 3 tyrant leadership and failed bad governments.

    I personally choose to put my focus on the single most inhuman dictator IA . Obviously TPLF Ethiopia, unabsorbed governments are no exception to this rule. But IA is worse, by orders of high magnitude. and therefore bear special responsibility for opposing his regime. I care about our people.

    Emperor Hail Selassie rule ended in 1974 and the entire Ethiopian Establishment were completely destroyed by Derge regime, after Derge defeat .TPLF /EPRDF ,in 1991 then ,they were growing nervous that Ethiopian could lose its important most rewarding strategic role as a very special close ally vis-à-vis the US and the Western Powers after the eclipse of Communism and the demise of the Soviet Union. Besides, PM Melase and the entire TPLF establishment were ready to establish former statues of fevered country like Emperor Hail Selassie and since then nothing have changed .

    The smart PM Melese , now moving to Phase II of the Plan of repositioning Ethiopia as the most vital strategic partner contriving an imaginary threat, “International Terrorism,” and using same as a tool to further suppress and crush Ethiopian uprisings, the TPLF needed a dramatic event that would galvanize the American public policies and the of the Western world and get more aid.
    Ethiopia rogue state far more a liability to the U.S. and European than an asset today?

    TPLF easily plunged Ethiopia into bloody civil conflict. One can not under estimate Tigray’s TPLF relatively strong forces, they kept federal military personnel and its military equipment .The fact that TPLF dominated Ethiopia’s governing coalition for decades , with tens of thousands of men under arms , rightly or wrongly, they see themselves locked in an existential battle with the Abiy Ethiopia. But in realty it is ongoing struggle for power. Like the first one TPLF war with Ethiopia which in all purposes was a continuation of the first one was all because of marginalization, poverty, ethnicity , TPLF after defeating dictator, Mengistu Haile Mariam, in 1991.With Meles Zenawi Tigray prosperity was evident ,it was not equally shared with rest of Ethiopia.

    PM Melees one who spelled out his brutal policies during his rule of 27 years and put them into practice and he become a dictator’s and dismantling the institutions that could hold him accountable. the strongman PM Melees ,the savior of Ethiopia, skilled as a politician he advertised himself to be progressive , for many Ethiopian who is one man ruining their country, since 2018 Tigray TPLF are out of power at the federal level, In September, Tigray held regional elections in defiance of the central government, which called the vote “illegal”. was it really needed so and all of sudden they real believed in democracy

    Tigray War consequence called it Collateral damage, the war currently raging in Tigray .is one against the civilian population
    innocent Tigranes have paid an unimaginable price. Over the last 7 month, their province has been utterly destroyed. Their infrastructure collapsed and cherished communities have been obliterated by their own government
    TPLF coming to power in 1991 ,has not changed the nature of the state and the cloture of war and has not presaged Ethiopia to the new era of democracy we once hoped for. There is no legacy of functioning democracy in Ethiopia after 28 years of ruling .It was one-party states and in believe they can emulate Chinese economic success . Democracies with volunteer armies cannot send young men to war, ignoring international law?

    PM MZ had enough time to develop Ethiopia to honest and functioning democracy as system that works as a whole, encompassing elections and all the buttressing of freedoms. These are not only fundamental human rights; they are the foundations of good governance and civilisation itself.by which PM MZ do not believe in this practice and adhered to .However holding TPLF political power, however it is achieved, TPLF did not dwell on the precariousness of democracies and liberal ideas of progress ,PM MZ in his time where there was no independent television, newspaper and radio and TPLF dominated central power for 28-year rule of Ethiopia suddenly vanished . TPLF order justified mass torture in prison and police stations, the passing of unjust sentences, the committing of extrajudicial killings of opposition figures, and the closure of the media. And in his time demonstrations and strikes, and any broadcast from a protest demonstration was strictly prohibited to mention few.

    Did TPLF tried establish a “Greater Tigray ”by stealing land I do not the reason, do they have historical claim, once simple if dishonest, is now complex and dishonest.?

    The new arrival of TPLF and its cohort collation Ethiopia EPRDF, with extensive abuse of power to make Ethiopia great again, a failed state and cesspool of corruption, its rulers, petty potentates and corrupt politicians , poor country , a recipient of vast US and western military and economic aid – identify Ethiopia for what it actually is: today there is no transition. Namely, a kleptocratic state sitting atop young population and fourth -rate economy with virtually zero capacity to project 21st century , zero chance to make an offensive military power beyond its own interior. If their history proves anything, Ethiopian are not a nation of pacifists , After all, how could it be? The GDP of $ 80 billions and Ethiopia’s Debt of $52 Billion. And its economy has been heading sharply south in dollar purchasing terms for several years running.
    what did they provided , the people of Ethiopia, with a choice between three opportunities for mass death and destruction and confiscation of wealth . not too long ago TPLF / EPRDF it has used a web of lies, spun by fake news and viral messaging, to divide Ethiopian societies by exploiting the rhetoric of reaction to encourage polarisation and confrontation that brought the end control of TPLF. One hope Ethiopia learned anything or something from Ethiopia’s painful and bloody history.

    The national parliament. Designed as a coalition of four parties from Ethiopia’s most powerful regions, the EPRDF is supposed to allow power-sharing between different ethnic groups but sadly it has became a mechanism for some regions to dominate others which is no different than past regime of PM MZ . Ethiopia’s main nine ethnic regions, and how best to democratise the country of over 100m people after decades of iron feast authoritarian rule was not on the table .

    TPLF controlled Ethiopian Military power ,An Empires live and die by their own illusions. Visions of empowerment can inspire Ethiopia to scale the heights of internal hegemony. Similarly, however, illusions of omnipotence can send fading Ethiopian empires crashing into oblivion. And potentially rendering the future of Ethiopia geopolitically irrelevant.

    TPLF they were drunk with Addis imperial illusions persist backed by armadas of artillery, tanks , jet fighters and a Predator drones . Ethiopian population is very poor, its debt ballooning, and its politics messy and in this series of failed, never-ending conflicts. In this centrally governed system and old Ethiopian military formula for controlling ,containing, constraining, and dominating all region of varied ethnic group as one will fail and visibly failing. After all that, it seems remarkable and TPLF regime is so blindingly oblivious to the aspiration of Ethiopian people that include poor Tigrayan .
    Yes PM MZ you listed as i mentioned earlier agreed with you ?
    My take remain Instead PM MZ of opening the country for business for all , trade ,peace and development, forge closer economic ties, deepen cooperation, and expand development space in Horn Africa region. Through free commerce trade and in addition build more of infrastructure and Ethiopia will become “the biggest market in the Horn with unparalleled potential. And potentially to be largest trade in East Africa bloc. Using modern port in Djibouti with new built railway by build China
    Sadly. PM MZ has limited and narrow ethnic vision. He failed miserably . TPLF / EPRDF in stead of winning by building infrastructures for commerce, new hydro energy will be beneficial for sure , local finance, and transport though out Ethiopia and beyond and PM MZ falling ability to produce goods and services and country facing budget deficit, which can be a real cause for concern and its economy is in a severe slump. Today it is much worst No private investment coming .

    Abiy regime taking their cues former PM MZ regime . No different than TPLF hubris and myopia have convinced themselves they are powerful group and infallible and immune to defeat. What brought TPLF greed and arrogance ultimately lead to their downfall and defeat also and this will take time

    Today Ethiopia is Fighting immoral and senseless civil wars today , wars of tomorrow and war forever. Many Tigrayan are still grappling with losses of loved ones from the war and food and medical insecurity. Making widows and orphans, Maiming and killing civilian who were no threat to Ethiopia .Destroying Tigray hospital , industry, infrastructure that are costly to replace .

    This has not been news for most Ethiopian for a long time. “history will judge” “It remains to be seen as to how history will judge PM MZ in the coming decades. In middle of war in Tigray .He is appreciated by the masses in Tigray but not all ,Might it not be more practical to judge him now? You listed PM MZ economic succusses and grow its economy with borrowed money has led to the accumulated national debt of $ Billions, owed to foreign countries and counting. But let’s get to the issue at hand, Ethiopia is in verge of Bankruptcy it can not pay its debt I’m sure most members of Ethiopian member of parliament don’t fully understand the dire financial predicament the country is in at the present time. Neither does its vast majority citizenry. Sooner or later which would bankrupt the country. I do not have details of debt and the interest burden on debt and deficit.. I leave the explanation for that one to greater minds than mine. So much success of PM MZ on browed money.

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Largely as a result of COVID related repercussions, Eritrea’s economy is now in truly in dire straits and therefore more vulnerable to political change from within. But instead of capitalizing on the current depressed situation in-country, many within the Eritrean opposition seem adamant on riding a TPLF dead horse strategy. Interesting that IMF is even unwilling to provide any form of Risk of External Debt Distress rating/assessment for Eritrea. Why is there minimal/no pressure exerted on the UN RCO’s office in Eritrea to be fully transparent when it comes to reporting on the economic, food security and nutritional indicators for Eritreans?

    • haileTG

      Selam Dongolo,

      That is an assignment too great for our opposition, it is busy on developing the cultural or traditional game called hashewye. That is why we support GiE because it can serve as a mechanism to do such things like you are suggesting and more.

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Hello Awatistas
    Shalom , Shalom
    weren’t many people of ” knowledge” saying here and trying to
    convince us all the problems of the homeland is due to President
    Donald Trump and his republican party leadership AND as soon
    as Joe Biden the the DEM took over leadership they can easily
    bring peace, justice and good governance to the Homeland ?
    But what did really happen and continues to happen is the exact
    opposite to the prophesied dream and promised rhetoric.
    A complete deterioration and political decay worse than the previous
    regime that might even lead the Nation to total dissolution.

    • Abi

      Shalom AMAN
      Glad to see you again after years of AWOL. Where have you been all these years?
      Your unique style of writing didn’t change at all.

      • AMANIEL PAULOS

        Shalom All & Abi
        I will have a longer version of reply sooner
        of where I had been for the last few years
        but for now I would like to emphasize that
        though I was partly AWOL and out of seen
        I was not completely AWOL but also learning
        higher and deeper of issues to understand them
        better and well by taking some time in private
        mood to contemplate.
        As for the unique style complement I thank you
        and that is the best of all the lessons I learned
        from the people before me and who enabled me
        to see further being on their shoulders. It was
        not mine but I inherited it, liked it and internalized
        it.
        And so far it seems to be so far not so bad at all.
        OR so far so good.

  • Mez

    Good day everyone,
    1) The civil war in Tigray is now finishing its 7th month.

    2) As of now, the front line is clearly defined; the ethiopian/ eritrean army, the amhara militia/special forces from the government side against the combined tplf forces. The grouping holds up to now; no realignment, no change of alliance.

    3) In the last 7 months happened a lot of battles between the opposing forces. The government side managed to confine tplf within the proper tigray; no easy way to get supply from sudan–for tplf.

    4) especially in the lat two months, the us came out with a clear message saying: “promote reconciliation, human rights, respect for pluralism, commit to an inclusive dialogue”; denouncing and asking to end “The large-scale human rights abuses taking place in Tigray”
    4.1) this message was backed up with visa access denial for violators, and further economic sanctions—against all parties, especially ethiopian and eritrean governments and institutions.
    4.2) The tplf seems to count a lot on item #4 and interpret it as a vital survival life line,
    4.2.1) tplf wants to link this with war/ human rights violation crime against tigrians civilian—and if possible parade several/all ethiopian and eritean leaders at the ICC, in the Hague.

    5) As things stand now, if the eritrean fighting troops are out of the tigray territory or not, this by itself will have no decisive impact on the war outcome. It will be just a dent in the whole war theater.
    5.1) It is a matter of time before pia and the amhara region are going to have their brothers-in-arm from tigray—that in sufficient amount.
    5.1.1) if eritrean troops pull-back to some strategic border posts and watch from there, this will be more than sufficient for them to decide the outcome of the war.

    6) what I miss at most is that, the eritrean-ethiopian economic interweaving is really moving very very slow—or is non existence. Not good for the two countries.

    7) in this whole conflict dynamics, one have to take in to account the shameful (past and present) tplf ability of keeping two-and-half million people jobless; and perpetually dependent on food, and essential items, handouts—this for over three decades without any tangible socioeconomic-structural adjustment.
    7.1) this is the worst crime ever done by tplf against the tigrian (their own people).
    7.1.1) This single issue of hunger, and the danger of it being compounded into a famine, has forced the course of the war in tigray to get somehow adjusted.

    8) overall, it looks that the tplf–instigated tigray crisis is moving/shifting from being an ethiopian national issue to a more and more localized boarder adjustment conflict with the eritrean in the north and the amhara in the south and east.
    8.1) in the very near future the battle, most likely, is going to be(more localized) and among tigrians themselves (the pro-and-anti tplf militias–trained and fed with the amharas and pia).
    8.1.1) this again may eventually make a military conflict unfit (for tplf), thereby forcing (tplf) to abandon a military conflict as it’s best means of political agenda settlement option—HOPEFULLY; and
    8.2) once the military option is dead forever, down the road (after a year or two), a political settlement will be the only available option where every one will be interested in–including the trouble-maker tplf—as it shall have to be.

    Thanks

    • Dongolo

      Selam Mez and thanks for the interesting comments. The TPLF and many within the Eritrean opposition (including seemingly failed GiE campaign), seem to have banked on internationalizing TPLF/Tigray matters and creating havoc and unrest (hopefully anarchy) to prevent Ethiopian elections (June 21st?) from taking place and by process creating an avenue for the U.S. to remove PIA as well as Abiy.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dongolo,

        Why are concerned on the removal of Issayas and Abiy by any means, if you want to see change in our country as well as in Ethiopia? You opined for change in our country on many instances in your comment, in the past.

        Regard

        • Dongolo

          Selam Amanuel Hidrat. Overdue need for regime change in Eritrea is effervescently clear; 30 years of narcissistic dictatorship has produced horrid consequences. I believe that no government (bad or good) should be under the same leader for more that 2 terms or 10 years in total. Even in the U.S., I believe there should be term limits for key government positions such as Governors, Senators, Representatives, etc. However, I do not subscribe to regime change ‘by any means’ and remain convinced that regime change must come from within and hopefully with minimal violence. In regards to Ethiopia and PMAA, I wish them well and hope that they are able to realize national elections in June or soonest thereafter; we should not pen Eritrean internal problems on PMAA or Ethiopia for they are ours to own. I believe that good relations with Ethiopia, notably opening of borders, will only serve to facilitate regime change in Eritrea.

    • Brhan

      Hello Mez,
      Your list belligerents missed United Arab Emirates.

      • Mez

        Hi Brhan,
        Yes indeed!
        Thanks

        • Brhan

          Hi Mez,
          Oh I also forgot Somalia so it is like 5 countries against 1. What do you think the war is still going on?

          • Mez

            Hi Brhan,
            Please add this country too.

            Regarding “What do you think the war is still going on? ”

            I presented my worry in the first weeks of the war. Unfortunately nothing to add.

            Thanks

    • haileTG

      Hey Mez,

      Two observations:

      1- Economic weaving is going on at much faster rate than we expected. Eritrea’s sole industrial park, Sawa, is working over capacity 24/7 exporting newly trained young people for war. Ethiopians are paying IA handsomely for it. Since the day of the Askari that is our chief export commodity.

      2- The struggle in Tigray follows the logistic growth curve model. The longer it takes the bigger and more threatening it will be because fighting in Tigray and linking them to terrorism would drive them to fight more and get good at it. Derg had tried and failed with that approach.

      Thanks

      • Mez

        Dear Haile TG,

        1) Item #1) is somewhat skewed; next time on this.

        2) On item #2), l am glad that you landed on “logistic growth curve model”; except your seemingly monumental challenge of getting the correct proportionality constant r & the “fighting spirit?!” as an input constant for “Carrying Capacity K”.

        3) for the tplf–initiated conflict in tigray, my model of semi linear moving average (which I posted yesterday) is “best fitting” than your Verhulst population growth approximation.

        Thanks

        • haileTG

          Hey Mez,

          I know we are discussing this for the pure joy of aesthetic value in mathematical modeling (so people don’t read too much into it 🙂
          With that, there was an actual research analysis on “The Insurgent’s Dilemma”. It analyzed the Maui Maui, the EPLF and one other not sure now. There is sure that what you say is interesting but the logistic is well defined in all its three phases. Barring any catastrophic critical phase along the path, the revolutionaries will always tend to successfully finalizing their mission.

          State institutions become hosts and the increased efficiency of the Insurgent’s takeover provides for the K steepness of middle phase. r being such efficiency parameter over the interval. Gen. Tsadkan is a smart man, he has it figured out:)

          • Mez

            Hi Haile TG,

            it may be necessary to have agreements on certain assumptions and approaches. Still we have a gap.

            On the general TG, your guss may hold. Let’s see how fast he can navigate tigray away from tplf-monopoly greep.

            Thanks

        • Aman Y.

          Selam Mez
          Aren’t you concerned about the Sudan encroachment? I believe it should be a significant variable within your formula.

  • haileTG

    Selamat awatista,

    ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘሎን ንነዊሕ ዝጸንሐን ኩለመዳያዊ ፖለቲካዊ ዕልቕልቕ ኣብዚ ዘይርጉእ እዋን ብጸቢብ መረዳእታ ክተሓዝ የድሊ። ህግደፍ ወይ እቲ ብሽም ህግደፍ ስልጣን ብሒቱን ባዕሊጉን ዘሎ ጉጂለ ኢሳያስ ብምልኻዕን ምጥቃንን ዝዝወር ፖለቲካዊ ስነ መጎት ተወንዚፉ እዩ ንህዝና ዘናቑት። ብዓንደ ርእሱ ነቲ ዝቐርበሉ ክስታት ካብ ምሕደራዊ ሕቶ ናብ ሉኣላዊ ሕቶ ወይ ድማ ግዝኣታዊ(ሃገርነት) ሕቶ እናቐያየረን ብታሕቲ ታሕቲ ድማ ኣውራጃዊ ቀቢላዊ ወይ ሃይማኖታዊ ትሕዝቶታት እናለቀበ የሳውሮ። እዚ ንውሽጢ ዝውርውሮ ቐስቲ ንግዳም ስለዘየገልግል ድማ ንደገ ዝውርውሮም መደናገሪ ሓሳባት ምስ ርእሰ ምርኮሳ ወይ ምስ ኣሰላልፋ ዓብለልቲ ሓያላን ዓለምና ዝጓነጽ ገይሩ ይትንትን። እዚ ኣካይዳ እዚ ሺሕ እኳ ዕምሪ ናይቲ ስርዓት ከንውሕ አንተሓገዘ ንሃገርና ኤርትራ ግን ብግዳም ዝተፈንፈነት ብውሽጢ ድማ ዝባደመት ገይሩ ኣብ ሓደጋ ኣሳጢሕዋ ይርከብ። ሎሚ ኤርትራ ትርከበሉ ኩነታት ኣፋፌት ኩለንተናዊ ዕንወትን ወተሃደራዊ ረጽምን እዩ ምባል ድማ ምግናን ኣይከውንን። ስለዚ ድማ ንተቓውሞ ውድባትን ውልቀ ሰባትን ጥራይ ዘይኮነ በቶም ነቲ ስርዓት ንድግፍ ኢና ዝብሉ ባእታታት እውን ጉዳይ ኤርትራ ጉዳይ ጉጉይ ምሕደራን ንምእራሙ ዝድለ መፍትሕን እምበር ግዛታዊ ወይ ሉአኣላዊ ሕቶ ዘኽተተ ከምዘይኮነ ኣነጺሩን ብዕቱብን ክሕዞ ዝግባእ እዩ። እቲ ብመግዛእቲ ዝረቐቐ ካርታ ድሒሩ ድማ ብዶባዊ ምኽላል ዝተፈጸመ ግዘኣታዊ ዶባትን መሬታዊ ሓድነትን ኤርትራ ኣብ ሕቶ ዘእተወ ዉዱብ ወይ ዉልቀ ሰብ የለን። ስለዚ ድማ ዝኾነ ይኹን ናብዚ ዘሳብብ ምልኻዕ ናይቲ ስርዓት ክንጸግ ይግባእ። ቀጺሉ ድማ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣብዚ ናይ ታሪኽ ህሞት ገዛእ ርእሱ (ዓይነት ስርዓት ብዘየገድስ) ብገዛእ ሉኣላውነቱ የማሓድር ኣሎ። በዚ ድማ ናይ ሉኣላውነት ለውጢ ወይ መተካእታ ከም ሕቶ ኣልዒሉ ዝቃለስ ውዱብ ይኹን ውልቀ ሰብ የለን። ኣብዚ ዝግበር መላኽዒ ምስምስ ናይቲ ስርዓት ክንጸግ ይግባእ። እቲ እንኮ ፖለቲካዊ ሕቶ ኤርትራውያን ድማ ምሕደራዊ ሕቶ እዩ። ስለዝኾነ ድማ ምሕደራዊ ሕቶ ብውሽጣዊ ምሕደራዊ ለውጢ ስለዝእለ ምስ ግዘኣታዊ (ሃገርነት) ወይ ሉኣላዊነት ሕቶ ብፍጹም ዝላገብ ኣይኮነን። እቲ ሕቶ ምሕደራ ኣዝዩ ግዜ በሊዑ እቲ ስርዓት ኣብዘይጽገነሉ ብርኪ ስለዘንቆልቆለ እቲ ዝድለ ኣራሚ ለውጢ ናይ ስርዓት ምእላይን መተካእታ ምቋምን እዩ። ሓደጋ ምትእትታው ግዳማውያን ሓይልታት ንቡር ተርእዮ ብምዃኑ እንተተኻእለ ንምግታኡ እንተጽበበ ድማ ንምቁጽጻሩ ክሕግዝ እቲ ምቋም መንግስቲ ኣብ ስደት ሓደ ስሉጥ ኣማራጺ እዩ። ክሳብ ዝኾነ ዝኸውን ግን ምስዚ ዝምዕብል ዘሎ ኩነታት እቶም ምስቲ ስርዓት ዝደናገጹ ባእታታት ንንጹር ምሕደራዊ ሕቶ ፍትሕን ርትዕን ኤርትራውያን ብምልኻዕ ናብ ሕቶ ግዝኣታዊ ወይ ሉኣላዊ ብምልኻዕ ነቲ ዝኸይድ ዘሎ ሃልሃልታ ነዳዲ ኣይትኽዓውሉ። ብሕልናን ብግብርን ንርእስኹም እውን ናብ ውድቀትን ጣዕሳን ከየእትወኩም።

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ሃንስ ዓርከይ
    ህግደፍ ኣይትበለኒ ህግደፍ ኣይኮንኩን
    ስለምንታይሲ ኣግሂደ
    ህግደፍ’የ ኣይበልኩን

    ሳክኤል ዓርከይ
    ህግደፍ’የ ክትብለኒ ኣይጽበየካን
    ስለምንታይሲ ኣብ ሞንጎ እግርኻ
    ፍረታት ኣይብቆልካን
    ዶ ዋላስ ኣይተዓደልካን

    ሃንስ ዓርከይ ወያነ ‘ኻ
    ወያነ ‘ዞም ሰረቕቲ
    ናይ ስጦብያ ንብረት ጓሕጓሕቲ

    ሳክኤል ዓርከይ
    ወያነ ኳ ስጦብያ ‘ዮም
    ተሰረቑ ድማ ካብ ዓዶም
    ‘ንታይ ግድሰኒ ‘ንታይ ግድሰካ
    ካቦ ስርቂ ደኣ መን ድዩ
    ኣርሓ ዓዲ ሃሎ
    ኮታስ ኣያኻ
    ዶ ዋላስ ክብለካ ዋናኻ

    ኣግሂድካ ህግደፍ በል ክትድረር
    ሕጂ መግቢ ደሓር ግን ዓረር

    ዋናኻ ዓድ ሃሎ
    ጋሕ ምስ በለ
    ግመ ተቐንጢጡ
    ጸሓይ ምስ በረቐ
    መዓስ ህግደፍ ኔረ
    ከምትብለኒ
    ሕጂ ክነግረካ
    ስለምንታይሲ

    ቅድሚ ሕጂ ኔሮም ከማኻ
    ብከብዶም ዝሓስቡ
    ምስዝመጸ በዓል እዋን ዝዕሰቡ
    ብዊንታኦም ዝስዕቡ
    ሽርብ ምስ ኮነ ኣፍ’ርክቡ
    ከማኻን ንስኻን
    መዓስ ኮን ‘ኹም ስረኹም ትዓጥቁ?

  • said

    Greeting,

    What could possibly justify these deaths and killing field ? we know from recent and past. Each cycle of killing leads to another.?
    After all the dead they were someone children, we do not enough for us to truly know the depth of suffering those dead Seeing those people faces in TV and the newspaper for months brings the reality of that madness and moral outrage a bit much closer to home . though not nearly close enough for us to truly know the depth of suffering those innocent people represent, It is hard to contemplate understanding of the breadth and depth of the tragedies of thousand of lives lost . International newspaper media ,a piece here and there , Tv report and analysis do not convey the true message no matter how eloquent or how stark, will ever be able to convey the horror, the suffering, the tragedies the loss, the never-ending grief of parents , community . grandparents, those so prematurely dead, should those families of the youth parents or grandparents have survived themselves. Some did. Many thousand didn’t. Tigrayn parents, Eritrean parents. This include Amhara parents and others group. The pain for their families are indescribable. We read about it the on going war and See pictures on TV ,read their grotesquely foreshortened stories with deep sadness and sorrow that is a bit abstract, a bit distant, We can only try to imagine .we know media put news that are easily sentimentalized before putting on TV and paper. That’s a hard path to forgiveness, a huge barrier to peace.. after all, we all are descendants of the same race and culture.

    IA and PM MZ leadership provide an opportunity to compare and contrast IA and PM MZ in a very specific way knew each other well and they were allies —namely MZ his influence on Ethiopian system of political parties . TPLP was dominant .while IA What matter most personal loyalty to him. And his personality mattered greatly in this endeavor . There were no ideological or policy grounds that define the two leaders . There are certainly strong parallels between the two group and there were also ideological grounds similarity .and initially their shared vision. Past and recent events bear little resemblance to the divide vison .
    what we see today, each used Ethiopia against other to wreaking the other to the benefit of Ethiopia .
    As below debate and we all can draw our conclusions , past crime repeating itself. unpleasant historical observations past border war and present war in Tigray are barbaric must be condemned ,it is circle of war decided by non elected leaders It happens all the time. this is barbaric war what we are currently witnessing in Tigray , and the comparison it the same precisely barbaric aggression visited upon hapless Eritrean in 1998 2000 war and no place safe to hide for civilian .
    As reported ,nothing is safe, the warship place, Schools, hospitals, were obliterated, nothing was off limits. Thousands of civilians, many of them helpless old men young women and the youth, were annihilated without mercy and similar to what is happening in Tigray today undeservedly . however ugly, is completely appropriate to compare of the two regime of the same criminal nature ? the similarities is same to the TPLF and become so appallingly obvious that ignoring such a fact becomes an exercise in absurdity? And what happens when those similarities are in fact an indirect result of histories greatest horror visit ed up on the two brotherly people past and present ? The rotten fruit of the past TPLF crime ,killing innocent civilian it is totally criminal and is happening in Tigray is also criminal and barbaric . Are we to ignore such inconvenient truths? And if so, at whose expense and to whose reward? It is uncomfortable comparisons hard to tell .Both side zeal for sadism and distraction knew no bounds. In spite of how we may feel about them. especially when you consider the intimate connections between the two former alliance EPLF and TPLF , their misguided sin of arrogance and pride, both saw sees fit to punish the other regime and sadly collateral damage to the entire civilian innocent population in both side of the border paid the price .

    • haileTG

      Thanks Said, well said!

      • said

        Selam Hail TG

        Thank you for your comment. .It is not an easy subject dealing with human suffering

        • haileTG

          Dear Said,

          You’re very welcome! I admire your deep thoughts and analysis. Keep enlightening us brother. Thank you.

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear Gentlel man,

      Thank you for this very interesting comment. It is very nice and matured idea thank once again and keep it up..

      KS,,

      • Aman Y.

        Dear kokhob
        That is a very disturbing and sad image. I pray she heals well and get strong to show her defiance.

        • kokhob selamone2

          Dear lovely Aman Y,

          I think this post is in wrong place. I understand it. Can you go to the right position copy and past it? Thank you. you are very kind and you got confused after watching the.image.

          KS,,

      • said

        Selam KS

        Thank you for your comment .i try my best ,it is not an easy subject .it very difficult to write and describe war victims from far

    • Hashela

      Dear Said

      This is a great post that accurately reflects the cycle of violence in our region and call one of the evils, that is glorified here, by its name. The thoughts you outlined are great, insightful and timely. I politely ask you to revisit your post and weed out the typos, capitalization, and grammatical and syntax errors so that the reader can focus on the great content. Please, don’t get me wrong. For all of us, English is a second or third foreign language, and I am the last person to teach English.

      Brotherly

      • said

        Selam Hashela

        Thank you for your comment and input .Yes I should have done what you proposed .I never take time to edited or even correct mistakes . It was Sunday afternoon ,rushing to get out of my home . To near by lake . Yes, it is spring. The flowers are blooming, the birds are singing and one would have wished he was in his own country side.

        • Hashela

          Selam Said

          “I never take time to edited or even correct mistakes”
          That is the most honest and sweetest admission!!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Said,

      While I will agree your position on the senseless Ethnic war of Ethiopia and the unholy alliance of the Eritrean despot and the false messiah of Ethiopia, I will humbly disagree on your attempt to find a sort of parallelism between Issayas and Meles. They are two different leaders both in philosophical approach and pragmatic life of their subjects. Here are some of the contrast of the two leaders:

      (a) On the philosophical ideology, Meles was a “developmental state” oriented leader who transform the economy of the country, the infrastructure of the state. A leader with a vision how to fight poverty. While Issayas has no identifiable philosophical ideology nor do a vision to transform the economic of the country and the quality of life of Eritrean people.

      (b) Meles didn’t believe “a party as a party” to own property. He was believing a party must survive by the contributions of its member. While Issayas believe “a party as a party” should own properties, and hence you can’t distinguish between the party and the government.

      (c) Meles was a very diplomatic politician who knows how to engage the international community. While Issayas is an individual who doesn’t know the elements of diplomacy, and hence kept our country as internationally isolate pariah state,

      (d) Melles flourished the institutes of higher education in Ethiopia, while Issayas has closed the only university that existed during the Ethiopian rulers.

      (e) Meles consider himself as a leader and as a student, hence he listened debates and conferences as observer with the audiences. He is a great debater on the international stage with international leaders representing Ethiopia and and the continent of Africa. Issayas own none of those qualities whatsoever.

      (f) Meles always think about the poverty of Ethiopian people, and all his vision is pivoted on that – to transform Ethiopia in to a middle class society. While Issayas goal was either to maintain his power till to his death or expand his power to Ethiopia and beyond.

      (g) Meles has transformed the Ethiopian military to a professional of Educate officers, with BAs, MAs, and PHDs. Issayas who is allergic to higher education limited the military officers not more than high school diplomas. You couldn’t find one general or colonel with BA, MA, or PHDs.

      (h) Meles transform the industrial (military hardware industrial parks) and infrastructure (railway, roads, dams), urbanization of villages and towns, The Eritrea of Issas has nothing of this. The industries we had retained from the Italian and Ethiopian colonizers are gone for good. The clean city of Asmara that we know changed to ghost city with dilapidated buildings.

      (I) He expanded the healthcare institutions of Ethiopia (hospitals and clinics) everywhere in Ethiopia. The Issayas of
      Eritrea build none of these institutions.

      (J) Meles left Ethiopia with constitutional government with regular election, with kilils exercising their own power and voting rights of the Ethiopian people, irrespective of the many deficiencies. Issayas ruled Eritrea without constitution and rule of law and without election for 30 years.

      So Said, for fairness there is no comparison between the two no matter how we hate Meles the visionary man who thrived the Ethiopian people three meals a day, until his death.

      Regard

      • Hashela

        Selam Amanuel

        You wrote “He expanded the healthcare institutions of Ethiopia (hospitals and clinics) everywhere in Ethiopia. The Issayas of Eritrea build none of these institutions”

        The statistical data about children’s vaccination, maternal mortality rate, and the rate of HIV infection between Ethiopia and Eritrea speak a different language than yours.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hashela,

          You wrote: “despite the difficult situation”

          Who create the situation you are referring?” You know and I know, the know how of the educated Eritreans is scattered all over the world because of the despot you keep defending. There is nothing in Eritrea that you could defend, hawna Hashela. Eritrea has lost everything she had before they land in the city. Eritrea has lost all its potential Human Resources, as we speak. Simply, Eritrea has lost even the potential of Hashela’s expert. It is because of the current realities of our country that many Eritreans including yourself are interacting behind pen names – for fear of reparation to your lives, of what you could do and say. So hawna, don’t fool yourself to tell us something that doesn’t exist in our country.

          Regard

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Aman H,

            Your questions are obviously correct but also relevant to the current situation. There are large numbers of highly educated Eritrean diaspora who are well connected in their personal social circles. However, why are all silent and not arguing Eritrean case as the world’s opinion is being formed in the most negative sense about Eritrea? Because the regime is not supported by heart. People support it against their conscience. That shows you how the regime made Eritrea barren of the fruits of her wombs. All participants of the conflict are advocating their case, while Eritreans, long driven away by the sadist, are mute or supporting his demise. That is the result of 30 years of barbaric rule that has left the country dangerously not defended. Naturally, as any people, Eritreans would have run to defend the nation. They did so in the border War, at the frontier, the rear and diaspora. Today, it is a despotic dictator leading forced grand parents and grandchildren into an aimless war of mercenary for Ethiopian domestic and ethnic land disputes.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሃይላት

            ካብ ምሁር ደንቆሮ
            ካብ ቀሺ ዘውር ዘብዝሕ
            ኣብ ሪጋ ኮማሮ
            የድሕነና

            ትቐዳማይ ኣይከብር
            ትዳሕረዋይ ኣይምሕር
            ፈላጢኦም
            ኣብክንድኦም
            ይሓፍር
            ወረ ይሓርቕ
            ሕርር ኩምትር
            ኣየ ናትና ነገር

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            The mere mention of the good work Eritrean healthcare professionals are doing infuriates you!?
            ምሕረት አውርደልካ!

          • Mez

            Good Day Amanuel H, Said, Hashela, Kokhob S,

            1) Comparing pia with pmz is an interesting angle.I would further say they both are in multiple accounts war criminals by starting unnecessary wars; especially after the eritrean independence.

            2) pmz and his party tplf core ideology was and still is ethnocentric fascism. That is factually the engine of war and destruction in our region.

            3) once this time passes (hopefully soon) a lot of fact finding research, justice, reconciliation, and the likes have to come from all of us for the good of every citizen of the region.

            Thanks

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Mez,

            Dead is dead under the almighty. Don’t compare him with someone alive. In our respected culture remembering the dead is not acceptable in such cruel way. And I am the worst man for DIA and believe me the day he goes from this world, I will cancel all the years of crime he committed to me.

            And honestly speaking he (Meles) was the first one to accept our national freedom and watch the crazy DIA is reuniting Eritrea. We all are witness the how Meles had developed his nation while our garbage, destroyed our nice nation. You must be very accurate to judge and say the reasonable. I am free to talk anything under the sun but with great care.

            KS,,

        • Abi

          Hashela
          Meles, The visionary leader , left his people in a precarious situation due to his stupid and retarded ethnic politics. He just got his behind kicked while dead.
          The visionary leader could not see his behind.

      • said

        Greetings
        Amanuel Hidrat
        “In Reality, however, the state is nothing but a machine for the oppression of one class by another.”
        -Friedrich Engels
        “All power is truly in the hands of the people, and in the end the people will win.”
        -Kuwasi Balagoon

        You have strong opinions on a variety of issues in regard Eritrea . I do not need to tell you about IA dictatorship, I wrote enough opinion about him over many years .But I express them on the couch or online . Neither had any effect ,rather than in the field where it matters. that is my humble view and in Asmara Street activism works when it’s sustained—But very dangerous. And it is absent I am well aware the of achievement and Ethiopian economic progress and status of Ethiopian during PM MZ era and is not lost from myside. We all know as you listed the progress of TPLF-led government, the international community held Ethiopia up as an economic model for Africa. Yes It had wracked up two decades of Asian-style growth and lifted tens of millions from penury of poverty and However, MZ browed billions of dollars from China to do all the economic miracle and at same he was not accountable and transparent, he fevered Tigray mostly and come at very high cost to the treasury .

        My issue was about war and suffering of our people and Tigray people .it happened to be the two leaders IA and PM zealot created the ground.

        The matters of justice and the common good PM MZ , he is not known to a democrat and he had no respect for human right . Contrary to popular mythology, for over two decades PM MZ ,he stayed in power till he died he was not democratically elected. he never embraced notions of rule of law and when the Ethiopian voted overwhelmingly to reject PM MZ , then TPLF-led government rigged the 2005 election and shot protesters in their hundreds in broad day light .
        TPLF dominated the power in Addis and for the privileged few, massive wealth and power that come with it and list is long .At end of the day It was the unprecedented sustainable collective action that unified, the Oromo and Amara youth that brought the regime down. A popular revolt, though costly in blood and sacrifices ,that can not be denied?

        Eritrean are deeply concerned about the sacrifices of our soldiers dying for no political gain and the benefit of Ethiopia .Both side leadership shamelessly exploited the deaths of innocent lives .

        TPLF abuse of power has being written widely in this forum and others. What triggered the lost of power for TPLF It was obvious ‘mass resistance’ and ‘popular struggle’, that TPLF have to deal with and leave central power and move their central power and base to Mekelle .

        In regard Eritrea there the absence of a unified Eritrean voice and prolonged political feud and it was also the crisis of leadership and the deep-seated factionalism. For Eritrean or for that matter for Ethiopian youth, only real scope and direction of their collective action that matters and brought change . Youth popular revolts are not the outcome of well planed ,it was mainly for political freedom and economical equality circumstances, for Ethiopian youth the tipping point of 2018 which was decided by the people themselves and that brought change and not yet realized .

        The issue I raised deal with what Matters most lives of our people ,the morality of peace, war, justice, ethics and not just economic progress. Both IA and PM MZ professed to be to adhere to communism and Marxism ideology at one time ,till it was not poplar .

        Sadly It’s been said many times but unfortunately can’t be said often enough that the conflation of criticism on both side . We know The toxic thrust of Amhara cultural and political supremacy runs through Ethiopian culture like an electric current. Winning and losing wars in Tigray and border war cannot be measured by gruesome comparisons between the number of dead or the degree of destruction inflicted on each side and the people on both side of the border are the true loser and not mention thousand of Eritrean solders lost lives . for what reason But why? You may ask. For Abiy Ethiopia. I do not have an answer
        PM MZ couldn’t prevent his nation of Ethiopia from becoming another dictatorship and managerial thug state, much like the one he replaced but with much better economic progress and much less bloody, nothing to compare too. Once PM MZ under mysteriously abrupt circumstances, it took his second successor AA , and his antagonists less than a two year to tear the whole thing down in time like a ribbons.
        Sadly PM MZ did not embrace democracy in the first place. These councils didn’t require a state to be constructed and they didn’t require a state of Ethiopia to survive. They are what TPLF Marxism oriented is supposed to be about, and they help expose what I see as the philosophies greatest contradiction. And this why Ethiopia is not a democracy yet.

        Top TPLF leadership ultimately exist largely to justify their own greedy existence and down with their shallow world view. Ethiopia itself fell to a Marxist-Leninist military junta the Derg in 1974. The king HSS and Derg ,had one thing in common Ethiopia’s long oppressed Tigray and Somali Ogaden Region and Oromo people , and leaving them conveniently crippled and dependent. Ethiopia’s communist regime subsequently came apart at hand of EPLF and TPLF . PM MZ lead Ethiopian intervention in 2007 that crushed the Courts and empowered the radical they supposedly came to confront. For some Somali it was no different than Christian Monarchy of Ethiopia. So much for PM MZ Enlightenment.? He was doing the work of his imperial masters he shares with and he was paid for

        We know Tigrayan determined to win its freedom at any cost and war will go on sadly and very costly for Eritrean at large . What I wrote is neither unique nor special, and I am not writing it to gain sympathy or sensationalize. Like most of us, i am deeply concerned for our people first and at most and they are living through unimaginable suffering. I wrote in this regard number of times. My opinion doesn’t matter—not by itself. No matter how heartfelt or important to me personally, my thoughts about Tigray Your opinion matters only if you express it. Expression of an opinion doesn’t change anything unless it’s done effectively as above mentioned . Opinions expressed in masse, alongside others who share our views, are more likely to effect change in Eritrea —but that’s not enough to move the needle. sustainable collective action that unified bring change What changes policy, what improves lives for the foreseeable future, what makes history on a radical scale, in Eritrean sustained mass movement that expresses an opinion so aggressively that the PFDJ are forced to change course or risk losing their power and privilege to revolutionary Eritrean and time is on side of Eritrean people to overthrow the regime by Eritrean mass .Regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Said,

          The issue I tried to engage you, is simply, when you hinted that there is parallelism between the two. I tried to show the contrast of the two. I was expecting your rebut to show us the comparison of the two. For unknown reasons, instead of doing that you went to explain PMMZ. So I found this comment outside of the framed argument I made. And therefore, I can not debate in a branched and un framed argument. If you want to go with your initial statement of parallelism and my framed argument, I will try to engage you . If not I close my case with this note.

          Regard

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Aman,

            Let it pass. Let it go the branch. You cannot convince him. After some time he will understand us. He is upgrading if you notice. Let him sometime to read more. I am sure- he will have to come more advanced..

            Look,
            -The issue I raised deal with what Matters most lives of our people ,the morality of peace, war, justice, ethics and not just economic progress. Both IA and PM MZ professed to be to adhere to communism and Marxism ideology at one time ,till it was not poplar-

            Now, where is Said? He is in none, How he understood for those two leaders will not hold water. He is a bit confused. For this time let it be.

            KS,,

          • said

            Selam KS
            (He is a bit confused. For this time let it be.) I am trying to be objective and be clear and I responded in length to AH ..At time i have a lot to say and get lost the central message to convey .
            Former ELF Veteran like Amanuel Hidrat should know much better. The first original sin by TPLF leader MZ was getting involved in full scale collaboration and alliance with EPLF ,they declared war and defeat ELF and pushed them out form inside Eritrea to Sudan .And you tell me how do see PM ZM. A foreign entity getting evolved in Eritrean civil war why have Eritrean blood in their hand in first place and for what political reason. Just imagen if ELF was still part political equation. Eritrean landscape will be totally different today, Is this not a crime killing Eritrean fighters by TPLF?

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Said,

            -Eritrean landscape will be totally different today, Is this not a crime killing Eritrean fighters by TPLF?-

            We the Ex-ELF fighters are aware of what happened from the war we experience. We don’t need someone to inform us because we had paid the blood and a lot of us had gone. But now it is all over gone not to come back. We don’t want to think about it in this present time. We should make peace with our past to live today. That is it, And now look what happen to TPLF and even we don’t like what happens them but nature had its way to let everyone to pay what had done on the past. I think that is cause and effect. I am trying to stop the cycle, Just a little man from hidden place to move the cause and put the drop to that seemingly huge even fire. My cause is over if I do my duty. Isn’t it?

            And then Said, what is the importance of talking about the 40+ years story now? Will we bring back that crime done by those two fronts? No. That story page is closed we should talk what is happening today and solve the problem. War will bring back war and the case will bring back the same result like the soil to their full height, a process known as ‘earthing up’. Earthing up potatoes will increase the length of underground stems that will bear potatoes. – deep in side the earth coming back multiplied much more than the one, you put. Today we should stand with TPLF if we can if not be away from this crime is our Eritrean duty.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ኮኮብዬ
            You said, “ Today we should stand with TPLF…”
            ኮኮብዬ የኔ ወዳጅ , የብቻዬ!!!!
            You know how much I love you, ኮኮብዬ!
            ኧረ በስሱ አስቀኝ! በሳቅ ብሞትብህ ምን ትጠቀማለህ ኮኮብዬ?
            በስመአብ!
            እስቲ ማን ይሙት ከሙት ጋር መቆምን ምን ይሉታል??

          • said

            Selam KS.

            I was not trying inform you ,As I mentioned AH knows much better as you do and most Eritrean do know. Who should we hold responsible for the death of EPL Tgadelty ? straightforward answer to that question? It is not simply identifying the obvious. The point , what was TPLF self-interest and to have solidarity with EPLF, the motive behind it . So where does responsibility for ELF fighters death rest? for bloodletting and mayhem., illegal, and immoral interventions in Eritrean internal affair .The question lingers. Asking few questions and I am not asking you to answer for crime of TPLF. It’s criminal and regrettable and shameful.
            We Eritrean we need to confront head-on the causes and consequences of our civil wars? This Eritrean sad story was not justifiable. and chapter is for historians to write about it .I put it in context about PM MZ and He is not what Ah portrayed to be. I sometimes wonder how Eritrean would react to hostile forces invading our country ? And the rest I full agree with you. We should look to the future and seek peace. and i have written about peace seeking many times
            Regard

          • Berhe Y

            Hi KS,

            Forgive Melles or praise him to your hearts content, all day everyday as you wish, like Amanuel Hidrat does every single time his name was mentioned in negative way.

            At the same time, allow others to criticize him for what they felt that he has done wrong.

            If Melles was such a great leader, he wouldn’t have build a government that is so empty that it crumbles over night. I heard the show “breakfast club where the Eritrean and Ethiopian” appear as guests. After they went on and on the crimes being committed by the PM the host asked a simple question

            “how come the PM can get away with it? Isn’t there anyone that can stop him?” And they looked at each other and said “there isn’t”. No constitution, no federal bureau, no secret service, no parliament that can impeach him, no Supreme Court nothing.

            Any grade 3 school children know the story of “Three little pigs and a wolf”. In the story, it tells how these pigs build their houses:
            1) the first one was lazy and it build it with Straw.
            2) the second pig worked a little hard and build it using sticks
            3) the third little pig worked hard and build it using bricks.

            The pig huffs and puffs and blow the house down of the first two but he can’t to the third house.

            Melles build a house made up of straw as he thought he will live there for ever and never thought there could come a wolf (PMAA) who can huff and puff and blow the house.

            What’s wrong to criticize Melles he build not a strong house in the first place where he had 20 plus years to do so?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Said,

            When I try to debate with you, it wasn’t about TPLF. It was about the contrast between two politician and leaders of two country. It was about Issayas as a person, as a politician, as a leader what he did in presiding the our nation for 30 years, in comparison of Meles as a person, as a politician, as a leader what he did to Ethiopia. I gave you the contrast between the two. Since you told us there are some parallel between the two, I was expecting to read the comparison between the two. When you engage in a debate you stick with the framed topic without going to all kind of history that we equally aware. If we want history we can write it an article or essay formats or indulge in to authoring a book. This forum is intend for a debate on specific issues by framing them in to a debate format. Besides, sharing information of all sorts. By doing that we can not jump from issue to issue without ending the issue at hand. I didn’t know that you are here only to share your views. Sharing your views and debating on specific issue are two different things. So I understand you now , that your comment do not mean for debate, but are only for sharing your opinion. Anyway, thank you so far for sharing your opinion,

            Regard

    • Brhan

      Hello Said,

      Thank you for your comment. But the elephant in the room is why DIA is not pulling his troops from Tigray?

      1) His mission is far from accomplishment, and he wants to finish it regardless of the US repetitive and noisy call.

      2) It has become difficult to pull out

      3) What can make the pull-out smooth?

      a) agreement with TPLF

      b) Destroy TPLF

      4) Destroy TPLF means, continue the war

      5) Continuation of war means more sanctions on both countries

      6) Can both countries, particularly, Ethiopia with 120 million and 40% of its budget covered by the Western countries’ aid, survive?

      • Berhe Y

        Selam Brhan,

        You have said this before and I think you are repeating it.

        2) It has become difficult to pull out

        I know what the guy in Tigray administration has said, it has been difficult for Eritrean to leave but I don’t think he gave the reason why. So it’s been interpreting to mean many things. if I am not mistaken you said “it’s not possible for Eritrea to pull out even if it wants to as it will be attacked by TPFL”.

        Let me ask you this,
        1) why do you say it’s “difficult to pull out” when the US particularly asking for Eritrea to leave. Are they not aware of the situation to propose something that’s not possible?
        2) Why do you think the TPLF would not allow the Eritrean army to leave, knowing it’s the army which can probably give them the hardest time fighting? Why wouldn’t they let them leave?

        I am asking from a rational point of view and leave the emotional aspects out, because those military leaders (like General Tsadkan) know what’s practical. For example, if you trap the Eritrean army, the army knows the only hope they have is to fight to survive and they will fight. Eritrea still have air power that it can deploy and tanks etc that is difficult for the TPLF to be successful. And they can always get support from Eritrean side.

        • Brhan

          Selam Berhe,
          I presented the points to Said to find answers. You are misquoting me. In other words, my points are questions and not statements. I am not a military expert, and I wish we had one in this forum to give his or her sight from a military perspective.
          The US, in my view, is seeking the will from DIA. If there is a will, then the ” how-to” can be negotiated. But here comes the trap: negotiate who with who? A.Ahmed Ali, unless he makes a 360-degree change to his stand, won’t sit with TPLF.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            Ok I misunderstood you, not intentional to misquote you. I thought you also made similar statement and want to know your reasoning.

            IA objection to stay is to support AA and their cooked up plan, not because he is trapped or can’t get out.

            He is not in any more danger when it comes to his power, now that TPLF is heavily damaged (from it’s firepower as was attested by the general).

            But Eritrea living Tigray will leave a vacuum in Tigray that will give the TPLF to take control.

            Even if that happens, they will have huge challenges to overcome to successfully stabilize the region and provide relieve to the people, in terms of economic needs and humanitarian needs.

          • Brhan

            Hi Berhe,
            “ሓመድ ተላሒስና ተንሲእና እንኤና” attested by the general.
            “መኸተ” ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ
            Unless a miracle happens , the above words of war indicate the war is far from its end.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            I am not saying it’s over, but there are forces that can end it, like the US, at least active conflict and the abuse.

            From Tigray point of view, what would they do if IA withdraw as per the US demands.

          • Brhan

            Hi Berhe,
            I believe referendum, like use article 39, Yes or Ney with Ethiopia.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ብርሃን ነብሲ

            ኮለኔል ኣብዮት
            ከምስል ብጸሎት
            ብግብሪ ሰብ የጽንት
            ከምስል ንደመር የዘውትር
            ብግብሪ ግን ደቂ ህዝቢ የጉድል

            ከምስል ምይጽ ምይጽ
            ብግብሪ ሕግታት ይረግጽ
            ከምስል መራሒ ሃገር
            ብግብሪ ግን ይሰርሕ
            ስጦብያ ክትብተን

            ‘ታ ምብትታን ‘ኳ ይመርጻ ኣነውን
            ስለምንታይ ሲ
            ካብ ኲናት ከማን ንድሕን
            ቀይ ባህራችን ምባል የቋርጽ
            ንዳ ንሕና ንሱ ናብ ረመጽ

            ደላዪ ሰላም
            ደላዪ ፍትሒ
            ሃገሩ ከመሓድር ብሕጊ
            ደቂ ብልጽግና
            ነበረ ነበረ ከም ደርጊ
            ብዘይ ሓድጊ

      • said

        Selam Brhan
        Thank you for comment .Yes US will impose sanctions on both nation ,But In IA terms, the penalties are easily dismissed. I hope you could answer what listed above and there is no easy answer .

  • Aman Y.

    Selam Donlo and Hashela

    The Ethiopian and Eritrean fallout begun after an Eritrean delegation went to observe the first EPRDF election in Ethiopia. Tigrayan leaders and the people at large were not happy and complaining about the business deals EPLF was enjoying. The war was declared after the observers reported that the TPLF was getting out of their hand. That is when Sawa opened and compulsory conscription started, military crew in civil duties were pulled back etc.

    A Colonel, who was pulled back from HGDEF civil duties said to me ሓንቲ ውግእ ምስትግራይ ተሪፋትና አላ this was in 1996 while trucks full of the 5th round were passing through Keru on their way to Sawa.

    So, when the war started, I did not have a doubt who started it. My trust of IA was lost due to these and other incidents I came across when I worked in Eritrea between 1993 to 1996. The cause of all these calamities is IA. What ever the degree of symptoms can not outweigh the cause, the cunning evil IA.

    Now let me bore you with another story. I read the link you( Dongolo) sent .

    ” An excerpt from it reads, ” Since the conflict broke out, the New York Times, … In its latest piece, on 21 May 2021, it carried a story—following the removal of its reporter from the country—misleading readers by stating Andargachew Tsege, one of the most prominent Ethiopian opposition figures as an “adviser to Mr. Abiy”. Alas, the Times may not be encumbered by correcting these glaring errors.”
    Are you telling me the journalist’s expulsion has to do with reporting Andargachew as an advisor to Aby?

    The first week August, 2018 Andargachew Tsege toured in the US to promote his book entitled “ነጻነትን የማያውቅ ነጻ አውጪ” I have the book in front of me which he signed on 08-11-2018. We had a little discussion. I asked him his opinion about Eritrean prisoners, especially the one imprisoned because of holding the bible, since he claimed to have read it six times in prison. He first corrected me by saying he said he read it three times not six, second he asked me አሉ እንዴ in surprise. He continued saying that he is not a religious person but a politician. Finally and to my surprise he asked me what an assignment I should give him. To which I said for him talk to Essayas.

    His response was ኢሳይስን አላናግረውም ። ይሄኛው ሰውዬ(አብይ) ግን አብረኸኝ እንስራ እያለኝ ነው፤ ለርሱ እናገረው አለሁ:: I have not reached him out since
    In my opinion, is not only an advisors but a ghostwriters of Abiy. The Ethiopian private media are wondering what his position is. Now, use your conscious mind what and who to believe.

    By the way his family used to be my neighbors in Addis at on time.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ብጥልመት ዝተነድቁ
    ብጾቶም ዘሕቀቑ
    ካብ ህዝቦም ዝሰርቁ
    ብክድዓት ዝተመረቑ
    ከመይ ‘ልኩም ትሓስቡ
    ንሃገር ብቕንዕና ክመርሑ?

    ሕጂ ኸኣ
    ምስ ኮለኔል ኣቢ መኺሮም
    ብቁርሱስ-ዕርክነት ሰኺሮም
    ንስጦብያ ‘ዛ ባሕሮም
    ኣግዚሞም
    ባዶ ከትርፉና ከም ቀደሞም
    ከም ሽንፍላ ዝተዓብጠ ሕልሞም
    ኣብ ቅርዓት ከውጽኡ ኣግሂዶም
    ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ናይ ስጦብያ ‘ዩ
    ክብሉ ጀሚሮም

    ኣንቱም ሰብ ዕደ
    ሃገርና ሼጡ ምስ ከደ
    ባሕሪ ምስ ሰገረ
    ——ጣዕሳ ፋይዳ ‘ብሉን
    ከምዚ ‘መሰለንን
    ተገሪሀ
    ኣብ ጸላም ተመሪሐ
    ምባል
    —–ማይ ምዕሟኽ ከይከውን

    ተበራበሩ
    ፎ! በሉዎ ነዚ
    በዓል ብዙሕ ሕብሩ
    ንሱ ክሃድም
    ንስኻትኩም ኣብ መቓብሩ
    ከይከውን
    ——-ትድራማ ምስተወደአ
    ——-ንሱ ክሃድም ዩ
    ——-ካባኹም ንሓደ ከይተማለአ
    ከመይ ጌሩ?

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hailat-TG & All,

    Please listen to the Radio interview of two young generation (one Eritrean and one Tigrain) sharing their views about the war in Tigray. Those who Abraham MIT, Abdom is his son.

    https://youtu.be/3d54XMOMr4U

    Regards

    • Aman Y.

      Selam Haw Amanuel
      Thank you. It consolatory to see vibrant second generation youngsters defending their people. Let’s hope and pray the generations after them do not have to deal with such issues.

    • haileTG

      Thanks Aman H,

      I hope the IA followers understand the degree of repulsion it arouses on others when atrocity happens on occupied populations. Eritrea’s good will capital is so eroded our children and grandchildren will have hard time rectifying it.

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Wow! So much concern now from some regarding Eritrean troops in Tigray whilst the same remained silent for some 20 years while a TPLF led Ethiopia illegally occupied Eritrean territory. Actions as such don’t exactly bolster opposition trust and confidence. Maybe best to stay clear of anything involving TPLF & Tigray and focus on what is happening inside Eritrea’s borders.

    • Aman Y.

      Selam Haw Dongolo,
      I agree it was a mistake for TPLF to occupy Eritrean land, but it is sad for you to equate the current atrocities with that. As a matter of fact, TPLF reached as deep as Barentu and almost Mendefera and pulled back. If you really analyze what happened between TPLF and IA’s conflict, you can not help but respect TPLF.

      • Dongolo

        Selam Aman Y. Your great respect for the TPLF simply oozes trust and confidence for the Eritrean Opposition. Thing is, we have all witnessed just how ‘great’ the TPLF fighters have been over the past several months when they have to fight themselves rather than have someone else fight for them. It might behove you to read:
        Smothering Facts, Manufacturing Lies: Ethiopia’s Crucifixion
        https://borkena.com/2021/05/21/smothering-facts-manufacturing-lies-ethiopias-crucifixion/

      • Hashela

        Selam Aman Y.

        Emphasizing that retribution/revenge is not a solution, I want counteract your sanctification of TPLF.
        When TPLF reached Barentu, Teseney, and Senafe using Ethiopian Youths as cannon fodders, TPLF made sure to

        – destroy hospitals, administrative buildings, factories
        – desecrate churches, mosques and martyrs’ cemeteries
        – loots whatever it can take
        – gang rape Eritrean women in front their families

        This is well documented. Let me know if you want me to provide links.

        • Desbele

          Selam Hashela,

          Three months ago Saay advise you to stop creating ‘alternative facts’ and fables to mislead readers and rather face the ugly truth. It seems it falls on deaf ears. Sharing it again the link and the summary below.
          https://pca-cpa.org/en/cases/71/
          “Ethiopia was awarded $174,036, 520 USD for the damages inflicted upon it by Eritrea. Damages include rape looting and destruction and civilian abuse.
          Eritrea was awarded $161, 455,000 million USD for the damages inflicted upon it by Ethiopia. Damages include rape, looting, destruction and civilian abuse.”
          Read this with the fact that DIA instigated the war and the truth may one day set you free.

          • Hashela

            Selam Desbele

            In their zeal to defend their master, TPLF supporters deny to accept that the 1998-2000 war happened deep in Eritrean territories. Because the war happened in Eritrea, logic dictates and well documented testimonies and observations vividly demonstrate that Eritrean civilians and Eritrean civilian infrastructure were subject to war atrocities and war damages, respectively. No legalistic jungle and acrobatics will obscure what happened to Eritrean civilians.

            Following your twisted logic, because TPLF started the current war in November 4, 2020, there are no war atrocities happening in Tigray. It is simply absurd.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Hashela,

            Although, we all remember the 98-00 war and it was by and large disciplined engagement, I understand the purpose of your attempt gaslight is to seek covers for the shocking crimes that continue to be alleged against Eritrean army in Tigray. As we speak, there’s absolutely no reason for former to be in Tigray at all. That attest to the crimnal nature of the regime’s activity.

            It was in a play where a murderous husband was trying to convince his wife otherwise by wrecking her psychologically and making her doubt reality, that gave the coinage of the term gaslight – a form of emotional abuse to get a make-believe narrative to counter the obvious.

            So, I would say stop gaslighting and condemn the acts of the regime and it will help to make lighter the load our children have to carry in the future. What the world is speaking about is really will be how they will be viewed in the future. Don’t fall for the regime’s old tested methods of gaslighting and justifying the unjustifiable. As a justice/change seeker, do the right thing and stand with justice NOW.

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile GT

            Unless you’re reading something else, in my writing there is not a word that can be construed to justify the war atrocity that is happening in Tigray.

          • haileTG

            Hey Hashela,

            Isn’t the thread about equating the border war with current atrocity as per Aman Y response that you’rerespondingto? You also say revenge is not a solution. What do we have to revenge? Was this atrocity about revenge in your opinion? Could you say atrocity is a crime rather than not a solution?

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile GT

            I was responding to Desbele! It is always good to read before you respond!

          • haileTG

            Selam Hashela,

            Haha…you were gaslighting Aman Y argument and defending that in your response to Desbele. Americans didn’t try to gaslight the Hiroshima bombing by narrating an exaggerated horrors of Port Harbor.

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile TG

            How about you give the poor word “gaslighting” a well deserved break by walking around the block or by going to the nearby park.

          • haileTG

            Selam Hashela,

            I will do the second one 🙂

          • Hashela

            Hey Haile TG

            And I will grab my binoculars and watch the birds hopping in the Manzanita bush and shrubs

          • haileTG

            haha…wey gudam:-)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-TG,

            Allow me to highlight the take home from your message for the supporters of the war who have no humanity, whatsoever, on the atrocities that is going on the Tigray people.

            “It was in a play where a murderous husband was trying to convince his wife otherwise by wrecking her psychologically and making her doubt reality…”

            “I would say stop gaslighting and condemn the acts of the regime and it will help to make lighter the load that our children have to carry in the future.”

            The Eritrean people who experienced those kind of atrocities should be the first to condemn such kind of “crime of inhumanity.” Albeit, it is shameful to see them trying to justify, something that will be carried on, as a big burden to our children now and in the future.

            Regards

          • Hashela

            ሰላም ክቡር ሐው ኣማኒኤል

            ንክበልዕዎ ድደለዩ ኣባ-ጉንባሕ’ሲ ቆቛሕ እዩ እብልዋ።
            ንወዲ-ሰብ ዝይሽሙ እንዳሃብካ ምጥቃን ግደፎ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ሓው ሓሸላ,

            አነ ብሓፈሽኡ እቲ መልሰይ ነቶም ነዚ ውግዚ ዘጣቅዑ ዘለው እያ:: እታ ጉዳይ ንዓኻ ኤንኮላይ ተመልከት ምኻናን ዘይምኻናን ግን ንስኻ ጥራይ ኢኻ ትፈልጣ::

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            እተን ኣብ ግዜ ውግእን ዕንወትን ናይ መለስ ዜናዊ ዘጣቓዓ ዝነበራ ይእዳውካ እንታይዳኣ ረኺቡወን ሕጂ ወይስ ዘርኢ የላልያ እየን?

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,
            You were severely ignored from my attention. But let me save you now from becoming a pathological lair like Trump and Ethiopian pastor who claimed that he was a chosen king of Ethiopia by God.

            Amanuel Hidrat was a strong opponent of the border war from its inception to its end, that I was singularly opposing (in my area) publicly by my writings and in the public meeting of the government officials in NYC where I leave. I was a topic on off and on, in the private meeting of PFDJites. You could check out with Haile Menkerios as and other officials from Washington DC. It is marked in their record book for posterity and you could check out in the offices of PFDJ on your usual visit. Don’t be such stupid to talk about the person you don’t know. Knowing me in this virtual forum is not enough for sane person to give judgement. But for the coward haters of Tigray people and NNNN have no shame to paint decent people behind pen names. But by now the forum knows you what you are up to and why you here in the forum. Clapping with the Amara people to annihilate the Tigray people by bullet and hunger is fully noted as the essence of Your politics.

          • Peace!

            Good morning Emma,

            I have made myself clear many times that you do not have to reply to my comment as it is not meant for engagement rather to exposing you to those who do not know you, and I have told you hundred times deflection is not an argument. You have been in this forum since day one and yet failed to show a single line you criticized your Godfather Meles/TPLF for crimes against innocent Ethiopians, Somalis, and Eritreans? You’ve defended every crime committed by TPLF for the last twenty some years with no shame, and still praying openly for disintegration of Ethiopia if things do go TPLF way. Seriously for a person of your age, it is a serious madness, and portraying others who challenge you as anti Tigray or pro Amhara people will not wash it away. You need to go to church and start cleansing your dirty sin and come clean of hypocrisy and double standards if you truly wish to help Eritreans, or join the people you unconditionally admire—Amanuel Iyasu, Yosef Gerbrehiwot, Amanuel Sahle and others who are in a mission to destroy Eritreanism. You have no single organ that is not contaminated with TPLF poison. I could go on and on but not worth of my time just TeseTer Elka Mehlaf Y’hayish.

            Peace!

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Allow me to correct you.
            ሰራቅ ሞባእ ባዕሉ ይላፋለፍ ይብሉ አቦው”

            ሽምዓን ጥዋፍን ገንዘብን አይብላዕን’ዩ።

          • Peace!

            Hi Hashela,

            He only supported wars waged by his visionary leader Meles Zenawi. He was clapping when Meles committing crimes against Ethiopians, Somalis, and Eritreans. All of sudden he’s now found humanity when Tigreans are the victims. A good example of ዘረኛ. እቶም ማዯም ዝሰተዩ ካብቶም ቆልዑ እኮ ገዲዶም 😢

            Peace!

          • Hashela

            Selam Peace

            Haha … good one!

            ፈላሲ አብ ጓይላ : ጎበዝ አብ መጋይራ።

            ንሕና ሰላም ንብል: አማኒኤል ክኣ “ሕውሓት ውይ ሞት” ክብል ድቃስ ከሊኡና!

          • Peace!

            Hi Hashela,

            Great reply. I just can’t fathom the double standards. It is rather so sickening given it is coming from so called justice seekers, no wonder Eritrea is in a painful and endless misery. The extreme version of these “TPLF sympathizers justice seekers” are now saying the war that’s started in Tigray will end in Asmara. The sad part is that this is all about PFDJ, not Eritrea. Pathetic!!!

            Peace!

          • Hashela

            Selam Peace

            For TPLF, every war is alway about visiting Asmera! Despite all the investments they made to mirror Asmera in Mekelle, they seem not to be happy

          • Peace!

            Hi Hashela,

            That’s TPLF’ ideology since day one., ሓደ ዓይና ናብ ኢትዮጵያ እቲ ሓደ ዓይና ድማ ናብ ኢርትራ:: እዚ ሕጂ ዘላቶ ኩነታት ድማ “ሁለት ፈላጊ ኣንዱን ያጣል” ይመስል::

            Years ago Gebru Asrat, one of the founders, warned TPLF to clear its principle or face collapse. Everything thing he’s said is now unfolding. TPLF has now reduced to a pirate—either you give us what we want or we will disintegrate Ethiopia.

            Peace!

          • Hashela

            Selam Peace

            Yes, we have a threatening beggar as a neighbor.

    • kokhob selamone2

      Hi Dongolo,

      Please be kind to human beings. Nothing concerns more than the crime those dictators are doing. See the link bellow.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOdT5C4_8lc&ab_channel=TigraiOnline

      KS,,

      • Dongolo

        Selam kokhob selame2. Ethiopian and Eritrean military operations against the TPLF have everything to do with restoring order in Ethiopia (& moreover the Horn of Africa) by ridding the terrorist TPLF and have absolutely nothing to do with Western style democracy for which the Biden administration is desperately trying to disingenuously force onto Ethiopia to bolster its military and strategic objectives. I am sure you cried bloody murder when TPLF led Ethiopian forces invaded Somalia in 2006 and committed wanton human rights abuses all at the same time that the TPLF was illegally occupying Eritrean land and trying to economically strangulate Eritrea.

        • kokhob selamone2

          Dear Dongolo,

          ‘Ethiopian and Eritrean military operations against the TPLF have everything to do with restoring order in Ethiopia…… ‘

          What is that? How do you think this will be materialized after such crime? I think Tigrai will be free for real national state. In short time Ethiopia will lose Tigrai.

          KS,,

      • Aman Y.

        Dear kokhob
        That is a very disturbing and sad image. I pray she heals well and get strong to show her defiance

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    An Ethiopian installed official of Tigray region says Eritrean intervention is a problem and Ethiopia is negotiating to have the Eritreans withdraw from Tigray.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZa3tT16YU

    • Brhan

      Merhaba haileTG

      When the US started to call on the withdrawal of Eritrean soldiers from Ethiopia, an Ethiopian military official said the exit has a technical issue. One of the technical issues, in fact, the biggest, could be making the Eritrean soldiers leave Tigray safely or without being attacked from the rear by TPLF.
      If TPLF is weak, why do they negotiate? If not, such withdrawal can only happen when there is peace. Or are they dealing on Ethiopian soldiers to be like human shields so that Eritreans soldiers leave Tigray safely?

      • haileTG

        Dear Brhan,

        True, but if I add something to that, this whole Eritrea going to Tigray is a huge trap IA foolishly walked into. It is my considered guestimate that there is some deep conspiracy going on and he is incapable of withdrawing. The systematic piling of accusations by Ethiopia and the world media conspicuously appearing to water down ENDF culpability is all pointed to some pre-planned plot. The Pulitzer Crisis Reporting group funded the linked report by AP. Read between the lines and notice how things are tilted to frame the Eritrean troops in many instances. But some believe that Pulitzer is covert asset of western intelligence agencies. It appears to me that the geo-strategic reordering of the region is well planned – btw this is my armchair weekend analysis:-)

        https://apnews.com/article/only-on-ap-eritrea-africa-religion-9fe9140b76da946e4fa65095a1d5b04f

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          “በእጆቼ እየዳሰስኩ እንዳላጫውትሽ
          ሰው ከማይደርስበት ጋራ ስር ነው ቤትሽ”
          ይላል ተሾመ ምትኩ::
          እባክህ ይህችን ዘፈን ተጋበዝልኝ …

          https://youtu.be/BkrvXAWKMIE

          • Bayan Negash

            Gash Abi,
            Remember Pharrell William’s “happy” song that injects not only the happy hormones, you know, the endorphins in our brain to kick in, but the music also makes one feel the urge to wanna dance. Well, “It might seem crazy what I am ’bout to say/Sunshine she’s here, you can take a break/I’m a hot air balloon that could go to space/With the air, like I don’t care…” starts Pharrell’s Happy. Here our version of it that will leave you enchanted the rest of this long Holiday weekend, where summer – fun time – makes its pronouncement.

            Anyone who listens to this song will find a little Oromo in him/her; a little Amhara in him/her; a little Tigrayan in him/her; a little Gurage in him/her; a little Eritrean in him/her, etc. It’s an all round not only feel good music but the down to earth message it conveys in simple Amharic interspersed with Ari is spot on. Here it goes:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YVqYuqf850

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Beyan,

            Indeed the song has some cultural elements of the social groups you mentioned them in your comment. good weekend treat.

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Haw Beyan
            I had listened my kids playing the music, but I did not pay attention to the essence of its lyrical message. Indeed ዘር አያጸድቅም!!!

            To take you back to your post, I have listened to both Lingo’s interviews. It was heart warming to hear his achievements after independence. I wish we can say the same for all ex-fighters. It amazes me how the the history of Ghedli revives with each story told in different angles. The lack off that perspective view is what is making people inappreciative.

            Other than that, most of what Lingo said was more of a confirmation of what I had heard I before, personally speaking. But some of his points like: there was no compulsory conscription until 1982 before independence in relation to the compulsory National service which did not start till 1994, made me think if we should compartmentalize the supplemental 30 years struggle. When did the post independence struggle really start?
            “ናጽንት ምርካብ ካብ ናጽነት ምዕቃብ ይቐልል” ሊንጎ

          • Bayan Negash

            merHaba Haw Aman,

            Thank you for the feedback on Lingo’s interview. I, too, was paying close attention when he said, as you aptly captured it, “…how the history of Ghedli revives with each story told in different angles. The lack off that perspective view is what is making people inappreciative.”

            Eritreans never had that chance to tell their story as Higdef was too busy concocting the wretched future it was cooking up for the people of Eritrea. Thirty years has now lapsed where the negative by far outweighs the positive aspects of the thirty years war of independence. The fresh memory people have now is the last thirty years of a wretched life up-close-and-personal. Whatever good Ghedli did is disfigured beyond repair.

            No matter how hard some people try to keep that history intact, the advent of the Internet is making it difficult for there to be any balance between the pre-independence and post-independence narratives. The latter is just way too fresh on those who were brutally abused by the very people who claim to have brought freedom to Eritrea and Eritreans.

            It’s a hard battle to wage. With gaslighting on the rise, it is not easy to come out shining. Even, Lingo, with his smooth language skills cannot disentangle us from the damage exacted on the revolutionary war for independence.

          • Abi

            ሰላም ወንድም በያን
            የቐንየለይ ሓወይ
            I will get back to you tomorrow. Just got back home after the champions league party. Drove for four hours round trip for a 90 minutes game .

          • haileTG

            Wendime Abi, yeqenyelna, hunom gin lijachn drenatal yaw yetelemede diplomatic tisisir yibeqatal tew ataschegr:)

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat-TG,

          Your armchair analysis is solid, well grounded with facts and logics accompanied with references to debunk lies and platitudinous arguments. Keep up your steadfastness in exposing the lies of the despotic Eritrean regime and the despotic pastor of Ethiopia who has no clue how to govern. Keep also your provocative questions that invites engagements of all kinds. I am enjoying it.

          Regard.

  • haileTG

    Selamat awatista!

    ሉኣላውነት ናይ ሓደ ሃገር
    ኣይግድሾ’ዩ ከመይ ይማሓደር
    ኣይገናጽልን’ውን ናይ ታሪኽ ማህደር
    ናይ’ቲ ቀንዲ ሓሳብ ቁምነገር
    ሕጋዊነት’ዩ ናይ ዋንነት ደብተር

    ሰነድ ናይ ዋንነት ዝምንዝዖ የለን
    ዋና ምዘፍቅድ ግን ኮታ ኣይክልከልን
    ምስ ምሕደራ ድማ ፍጹም ኣይሕወስን

    በዓል ዋና ክኸብር ክሓስር
    ዋኒን ክዓኑ ክሰርር
    ገዛ ዓበይቲ’ዶ እንዳ ኣመናዝር
    ንባህርያት ይምልከት ንስነ-መጋብር

    ሃገር ካብ ተዶኮነ ኣብ ባይታ
    ተፈጥሮኣዊ መርየት ምስ ማያታ
    ሉኣላውነት ካብ ተፈርደሎም ደቅ’ባታ
    ንሱ’ዶ ኣይኮነን ናይቲ ጉዳይ መወዳእታ

    ርኽሰት ብዕልግና ስልጣን
    ክንዲ ቁምነገር ተሳኺርካ ዕብዳን
    ብሰነድ ዋንነት ምድንጋር ሽጥራን
    ዕድል ደቂ ሃገር ንኸንቱ ምብርዓን
    ውርደት በዓል ዋና’ዩ ኣብ ታሪኽ ምውናን!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ይገርማና ‘ሎ
    ደቂ ቪላጆ ሳላሳ-ኣምስተኛ
    ምስ ብሄረ ኣምሓራ
    ልፍንቲ
    ኣየ ስልቲ!
    ለካስ ህግደፍ መስሪታ ኔራ
    ዳግማይ ሰልፊ ሕብእቲ

    ተደሚርና ‘ለና ይብሉ
    ባንዴራ ኣምሓራ ተጠቕለሉ
    ይመስለና ኔሩ ዘይሓፍሩ
    ለካስ ኣይፍለጥናን
    ኣብ መዓስከራት እስጦብያ
    ከምዝተዳቐሉ
    ዓጀብ

  • Abi

    ሰላም ክቡራት ታዳሚዎች
    Exactly thirty years ago
    ግንቦ 20, 1983 ዓም — ኢህአዲግ –አዲስ አበባ–እልልልልልልል!!!!!
    ግንቦት 20 2013 — ወያኔ –ደደቢት– ዋይ ዋይ የት ትሄዳለህ??
    እዋይ!!

    • Peace!

      Hi Abish,

      Good one, Gedelkegn. I would add in 15 days. Flying back was amazingly fast.

      Peace!

      • Abi

        Peace
        “አፈር ነህና ወደ አፈር ትመለሳለህ” ይላል ታላቁ መፅሐፍ::
        እግሬ አውጪኝ ወደ ገደል!!
        The speed in which they traveled the 700 km in 15 days is recorded in Guinness world book of records!!!
        እየሞቱ ሪኮርድ መስበር በራሱ ሪኮርድ ነው::

    • Peace ToAll

      what a pyrrhic victory! Abi, what happened to the 85% of the Ethiopian soldiers? Issu, your mentor announced that percent of ENDF is out of commission. Your demise is approaching

      • Abi

        Hello Peace ToAll
        ከሁሉ አስቀድመህ ዝቅ ብለህ እጅ መንሳት ተለማመድ::
        እንዴት ያለ ጉድ ነው!!!!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ቪላ ዘስራሕክዋ ኣብ ኣስመራ
    ከይተቐምጥኩላ ነዊሕ ጌራ
    ብሰንካ ኣባል ህግደፍ ተኸቲበ
    ሕልናይ ሸይጠ
    ኣብ ሓሸውየ ህግደፍ ወዲቐ
    ሕጂ ግን ረብሪበ
    ካብዝቃወም ዳርጋ ዓመት ጌረ

    ሓደ በዓል ግዜ ኮለኔል
    ናይ ዘመንና ጎብለል
    ማዕጾ ቪላይ ሴሩ ከምዝኣቱ
    ከምዝገብራ ናቱ
    ኣይጠረጠርን

    የግዳስ
    ሩፍ ኢለ ይድቅስ
    ሕልናይ ኣይወቅስ
    ካብኡ ኣይሕለፉ
    ‘ንዳ ህግደፍ ነጃውስ
    ደሓን
    ካፖ ዓዲ-ሃሎ ቀሪቡ ዩ ከልግስ
    ሕጅስ
    ቢስ! በሎ ‘ታ ቢስ!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hailat-TG & All,

    Here is a remarkable statement from the wife of a journalist that reflects the spirit of a fighter (ወኒ ተቃላሳይ ዘዛኻኽር). She said “Desta (who is her husband) is sick when Tigray is sick” and has joined the fight all the way to the frontline from Nairobi, leaving his family behind. Here is the link of the story. It is the story of a journalist and a fighter who loves his people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYqYxy6EHx4

    Regard

    • haileTG

      Hey Aman H,

      What if…. what if,

      Tigrayans were to be denied basic rights all those years

      Tigrayans were to be locked up and the key thrown away all those years

      Tigrayans were to be made destitute refugees in their border all those years

      Tigrayans were to be asked to prove they are Tigrayans by kissing Meles’ feet

      Tigrayans were to be kept in trenches for all their productive lives

      What then… what then… would happen to the fighting spirit 😕

      • Abi

        ኃይልሽ
        If all the things you mentioned above happened to Tigrayans, I would definitely call them Eritreans.

        I’m hiding under a bunker. Go ahead, shoot!!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Merhaba Hailat,

        Desta Ghebremedhin is trying to move on the foot step of Meles, sacrificing the good life he had, to protect and liberate his people. By liberating his people will liberate his land from invaders and human abusers. That is the central goal of the fight. Now let me try to answer all the “what ifs”.

        It is because of (a) denials of their basic rights to administer themselves (b) being surrounded by their enemies and being locked up in an inscribed land (c) being of rampant displacement and being thrown in to a refugee camp in the neighbor country (d) being exposed to ethnic cleansing and many other factors, will be re-emerged and re-energized the spirit of the second wayane for a second journey from the mountains to the cities. Whatever will be the cost, they look determined for their mission. Their unity and their resiliency is better than ever. And if the Eritrean army is pulled by the pressure of the international communities, I guarantee you, they will root out Abiy’s army and the Amara militia.

        Hailat, think about this: if there are about 10,000 of the Amara militia wounded from the six month war (courtesy of the Amara kilil administration requesting 100 million bir to replenish their money – the cost spend to treat them), you could extrapolate the number of militia killed in the war. You could also estimate similar casualties and deaths from the other kilils. It means they are in a good position to dislodge the Amara militia and the federal army from their state (provided the Eritrean army withdrew), and once the international communities tackle on the “hunger war” imposed to starve the ordinary Tigray people by the invaders and oppressors.

        But, on the “what if’s” they will continue to meet all the challenges you listed above, while they are fighting their enemies. “ወኒ ቃልስን ጽንዓትን” እዩ እቲ ወሳኒ:: ህዝቢ ትግራይ ከአ ንኽልትኤን ዝወነነን ይመስል::

        ዓወት ንውጹዓት ኣህዛብ!

        Regard

        • haileTG

          Selam Aman,

          Yes, but I was trying to draw parallels with what happened to Eritreans who were the model of fighting spirit once upon a time:)

          Now let me go and shoot Abi for saying all the right things:-)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Hailat-TG,

            ናትና ነገርሲ ነበረ-ነበረ ኾይኑ ተሪፋ: አብ ውሽጣዊ ጸላኢና ምስ ኮነ እቲ ቃልሲ::

            Regards

    • Peace!

      Hi Emma,

      Too bad TPLF has already contaminated Tigray people’s dream and aspiration that there is no noble cause left for any Tigryan to die under TPLF’s twisted ideology, and moving forward, the Ethiopian people will never forget the 30 years of looting, killing, and torturing. The deadly ethnic politics and its creator, TPLF, are dead. RIP

      Eritreans who wants to help the dead TPLF should go and join the struggle rather than becoming a destruction to the Eritrean cause. We can’t afford an endless distraction. Please Please!!

      Peace!

      • Abi

        Hello Peace
        A wise man once said, “ With friends like these, who needs enemies “.

        • Peace!

          Hi Abish,

          ፍቅር እስከ መቃብር — Eri-Oppositions and TPLF:)

          Peace!

          • Abi

            Peace
            I respectfully disagree. It is more like “በሬ ከአራጁ ይውላል” ::
            ግንኙነታቸው ፍቅር አልታየበትም::
            ተሳሳትኩ እንዴ? የኔ ነገር ስንቀዠቀዥ…

          • Peace!

            Hi Abish,

            Apparently, it is not mutual rather the other side is in abusive relationship. Does Uber go to dedebit so we can focus on our own issue??? Please help:)

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Peace
            Donkey Uber has shut down its operations in Dedebit Metropolitan area for luck of potential riders.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Good one:) it’s already weekend here is mine— https://youtu.be/RDcaYbeXeUI

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Thanks Peace
            Here is my favorite ፈረንጅኛ
            https://youtu.be/eFjjO_lhf9c

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother Peace,

        Slow down please.

        We all are optimistic when comes to TPLF struggle. I am very much eager to see the end of the war. I am sure TPLF will won the the case of those two dictators is nearly will be over the game. Past had gone not to come back and those all mistakes committed by the TPLF are also gone for this time is wave all recovering and corrections all the past karma and it is all over please. Now we should correct and inside us and try to join and come to our sense. But since I am spiritual man I am slowly finding my way and come to clean all the past from my head. I have seen my long struggle this two men were in 1980 fighting against our ELF and that is exactly what we all see this time. Revenge is not correct by the way and just look at what is coming.

        TPLF, is is advancing against those criminal groups, Time will show us the real result, Watch please and see the result.

        KS,,

        • Peace!

          Hi KS ,

          What is wining for TPLF? I don’t think a single Ethiopian would let TPLF loot and kill them again if that’s what TPLF is fighting for, and no one would object either if TPLF wants to create an independent Tigray. See how bad it gets when one fights all his life for a twisted ideology? 🙂

          Good to hear from you
          Peace!

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Peace,

            So you are insisting to fight TPLF. if so please watch this–

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmQnQl5FHsU

            KS,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kokhobay,

            Keep up the endurance for your basic instincts. That will explain you who you are.

            Regards

          • Peace!

            Hi KS,

            We Eritreans have our own problems to deal with plus this is not the right platform to promoting TPLF’s doomed struggle using poor Tigreans as a cover. That’s the point I was trying to make. Have a good weekend.

            Peace!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ውዱብ ሕቡራት ኣፍሪቃ
    ዶ ዋላስ ባሊቃ?
    ይሕሹ

    ባሊቃስ ‘ኳ ትኸድን
    ‘ዚ ውድብ ግን
    ዘጥፈአ መኣዝን
    ዘየማዛዝን

    ብኸብዶም ዝሓስቡ
    ዝዛረቡ እንስሳ ናይዝትኣከቡ
    ——-ትርጉም ኣልቦ
    ——-ኣህጉሮም ኣብ ኲናት ኣብ ዓጸቦ
    ሰብኣውነቶም ዘጥፍኡ
    ሕልሞም
    ጋብላ ዝኾነ ጁባኦም ክመልኡ
    ከመይ ሓመድ ይብልዑ

  • haileTG

    Hello Awatista,

    The FT Editorial board gives the first hint that the USA wants the IA – PMAA alliance ended:

    “The objective of the latest measures is to convince Abiy’s government to start a peace dialogue with the TPLF, which enjoys genuine popular support in Tigray despite all its past brutalities. Plenty of governments have negotiated with designated terrorist organisations before. Abiy must also make good on his promise to expel Eritrean troops. The first step must be to end what appears to be a cynical pact with Isaias Afwerki, Eritrea’s dictator, to destroy the TPLF. ” Editorial Board, FT (2021) ‘US is right to impose sanctions on Ethiopia’

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat-TG,

      If the effort of US government is materialized, two things will happen;

      (a) Looking from humanitarian perspective, the atrocities and ethnic cleansing will stop and the investigation of the crimes against Tigray people will be launched by the international community.

      (b) From the Eritrean interest: as soon as the Eritrean forces are pulled out, it will be the beginning of saving Eritrean lives from the war that has nothing to do with the Eritrean interest, whatsoever.

      (c) From the relationship of the two despotic leaders point of view, we will see getting rough from time to time.

      (d) The unity of Ethiopian social groups will remain in limbo for sometime, and will be hard enough to bring them together to keep the Ethiopia we know, after this hateful ethnic cleansing.

      (e) On the border issue, it will remain statuesque as far as our despot is in power.

      Regard

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      You are unusually slow today.
      Senator Jim Inhofe has already lectured the demented guy that temporarily resides at the White House Assisted Living facility about the true nature of the late Tplf. He called it a terrorist organization that has no place in the current Ethiopian affairs.

      • haileTG

        Hey Guad Abi

        ጎበዝ ሲታጣ ይመለመላል ጎባጣ ኣይደል! The good Sen. Inhofe is a business man and a republican senator from Oklahoma with no role in the situation at all [he is ranking member of the armed services committee]. It is lobbyist fee badly invested if you ask me:-) At least choose a democrat or at least a republican with history of working together on bipartisan issues. Inhofe is apparently none of those.

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          He said he has been to Ethiopia at least 19 times in the last several years. He knows Ethiopia much better than the blinking guy at Foggy Bottom and the frail and confused at the Assisted living facility. As a ranking member of the armed services committee, he knows the vital role Ethiopia plays in the region.
          I remember A democrat like Obama and his puppies laughing at the መቶ በመቶ eprdf elections. If you think democrats care , think again and think fast.
          You are getting slower, ኃይልሽ. Please have double espresso…

          • haileTG

            OK OK wendim Abi!

            Here is a fast one…straight from the oven:-)

            “Pandor [S.A International cooperation minister] said South Africa would like to see the withdrawal of Eritrean troops from Tigray, something which was supposed to have happened by 15 April, but didn’t. We are looking at getting a report on what the situation is now,” she said. “We are concerned that they are a negative factor for what is happening in the region.”

            She said the African Union’s (AU) Peace and Security Commission was asked to look into the situation.

            Pressure is building, right?

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ነገሩ ሁሉ “ሰው ጥራ ቢሉት እራሱ መጣ” ሆነና አረፈው!!
            The only pressure that is detected from S.A is from the mining industry extracting diamonds:)
            I agree with the AU involvement in the situation.

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi, mindnew ebakwo teregagu enji!

            “The U.S. State Department’s restrictions on visas and decreased economic assistance to the Ethiopian government was welcomed by senators Thursday as measures to pressure the country to end the civil war…”

            Is the latest news from Washington. Inhofe hasn’t worked 😪

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            እኔ ያንተ ወንድም እርግት: ስክን ብያለሁ!!
            As the all time legendary Awatista General Nitricc would say, The restriction is just toothless!!! It doesn’t bite at all (ጥርሱን ኤርትራ ላይ ጨርሶ ድድ ብቻ ነው የቀረው)
            እኛ እንደሆን እንኳን ለሙቅ ለገንፎም አንደነግጥ !!

          • Berhe Y

            Selam HaileTG,

            Sorry a bit busy to respond to the other thread,

            But question for you, why isn’t the US (and the EU) not going through the UN and security council?

            May be there is a resistance from the other SC members such as Russia and China? If that is the case, would they allay and support Eritrea and ease the pressure in exchange for something, like military base

          • haileTG

            Selamat Berhe,

            1 – UNSC approval

            As you know most of the recent US interventions through sanctions regime and/or NATO intervention never had UN authorization. In principle, China is dead set against sanction (as a matter of stated policy). When Eritrea lost repeated times at the UNSC during the sanctions years, it shows you the diplomatic bankruptcy of the IA regime when it can’t even get once for China to Veto. That was an easy hurdle it failed. However, to get back to your question, the US is applying the Magnitsky Act which is essentially designed to sanction individuals deemed to be responsible for HR violations. This act has now been adopted by many western countries including the EU and is put in action when UN resolutions are not possible. Just for your references, the Iraq invasion, Serbia bombings and intervention in Syria and many others deemed humanitarian interventions (except Iraq ) were also actions taken against states without UN authorization. IMO humanitarian intervention does conflict with sovereignty matters and since the UN is essentially founded to affirm national sovereignty and prevent inter-state conflicts, it naturally gravitates against readily supporting such measures. There are also more complex issues to do with wars and their aftermath that weigh into this, in addition to individual member state’s national interests.

            2 – Would they cut a deal with Eritrea

            In reality, that has always happened. The key here is the overriding US interests in the region. One can never say never, but it is hard to see what kind of strategic alliance the US can form with the IA regime. It could potentially happen with a post IA regimes, otherwise there needs to be a massively pressing issue like the Yemen war and the likes for US to take the road of expediency over policy. IA is a bad optics for any reasonable African leader let alone a western country. This is a regime that is keeping people (including US embassy staff almost 20 years in communicado). He is accused of modern slavery and human trafficking (the latter curtesy of saay). So, policy may not favor such sort of alliance, however, some unexpected strategic interests could always force the US to turn a blind eye. Even then the regime is not comfortable with western eyes in the country. Remember how he deported only western peace keepers from the UNMEE and he still requires western citizens to confine within 25km of the capital or have a permit to move around. So, very unlikely, but never rule out anything.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            It is already Friday!!!!
            Here is the legendary ፀግሽ denying that he did not do it. It is kind of ሰምና ወርቅ.
            https://youtu.be/zUIOZ7vHUoo

          • Berhe Y

            Selam HaileTG,

            The US knows it can’t get the agreement from China to get security council approval thus it chose to use other means. Last time around, I think China abstained, but actually never blocks any resolution. At that time Ethiopia/ Melles had played a huge role convincing even the African countries such as Igad members, and he had support from Europe, specially France on the war with Djibouti on the boarder, plus the Al Shebab and terrorism allegations. This time I don’t think there is that much interest for UNSC to pass a resolution.

            I listened to TMH with an guest to break down the latest US resolution. Looking at specific to Eritrea, just sticking to this issue only without adding other factors (such as human rights situation in Eritrea), the demand is:

            1) Eritrea to withdraw to the international recognized boarders. This is an acknowledgment by the US to the boarder ruling, i.e. they are ok for Eritrea to get ahold of Badime.
            2) They sanctioned individuals and travel restrictions (I don’t have the list or how many).
            3) It’s asking to bring those responsible to justice.
            4) No development aid.

            I don’t think the development sanction will make much a difference. It’s not like they depend on the US anyway.

            Unless I am wrong, I think the regime can actually go through this demand and get them selves out. They will not have short excuse to turn this into victory (ባድመ መሊስናያ) is more than enough to most of their supporters.

            So to be honest, I don’t see this is much an issue to the regime to comply.

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe,
            Who do you thinks pulls the strings on USAid, World Bank, IMF, and many other forums? Revise your conclusions of “They don’t depend on the US anyway”. That’s what they claim without mentioning what the US controls through second hand and third hand influence. Chech the aid in cash and kind that Eritrea receives and it will be clear for you. Do you think the US cannot influence the Saudis, Qataris, or UAE?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saleh,

            You are correct. What I am trying to say is, they can survive this, the same way they survived the last one.

            This will be hard for the people, in indirect ways, but they don’t really care.

            I am just trying to make a point that, this is not a done deal for the regime and we should try to manage our expectations.

            It seems to me, the US is only interested to restore some kind of peace and end the suffering of civilians and contain further damage.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Berhe,

            I understand what you mean but the devil is in the detail. On the first point you made about China, it is understood that abstain by China means it doesn’t mind if it passes. That is why it is considered a failure for the IA regime.

            Coming to the main points, I agree on the key points you listed are the main demands. But what do they entail in practice? Do you think IA will just come off the Tigray expedition, dust off and all will be well and good?? Last week the EEPA had a webinar among partners and the issue of ICC is beginning to gain traction in connection to the sexual abuses in particular. Eritrean withdrawal will reconfigure the balance of forces, it would have its own implications. As you said it is not wise to take anything as a done deal. In any case, IA will be withdrawing with the war have baked, not fully finished. That is an unimaginable danger to him in itself. To make matters worse, PMAA has political hot potato to deal with and a fall out with IA can’t be ruled out. I can’t see IA surviving all this even if my life depended on it. But you never know. If he does, he will go down as the greatest political Houdini of the century. Very unlikely.

            One unrelated point, PMAA apparently lamented today to the PP leadership meeting that Ethiopia was always connected to sea outlet, however its loss of its access to the sea is the reason external powers enforcing their will on her. Just an interesting point…hmmm

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe,
            It’s not about undertimating alone, think about over estimating as well. And an opposition cannot use tools by underestimating the effects. Furthermore, if you think the people could be hurt, then enough reason to estimate the results correctly—underestimating doesn’t help.

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Saleh,

            The US can influence the Saudis and the UAE. UAE: no gravy train for A. bin Ahmed bin Ali of Ethiopia. But on Qatar, I doubt. Qatar has played differently on many international issues, and it is unchallenged by the US. Recently, Hamas’s leader ( considered a terrorist organization by the US) was in Qatar and gave a public speech.

            So was Redwan Hussien, the low profile, seasoned Ethiopian diplomat. He knows Ethiopia, which UAE and Saudi Arabia abandon due to pressure from the US, can get$$$$ from Qatar who plays differently.

          • Saleh Johar

            Yes Brhan, but remember the US believes in don’t dry the pond to kill the fish and allows contingency plans. Qatar is the mst principled country among all, n doubt about that but don’t think they would risk their relations with the US to babysit Abiy if they the relation will mean facing the USA. They conduct mature policies.

        • Brhan

          Merhaba haile TG
          You are right on Inhofe, ESAT’s expert, to discuss the matter; Dr. Yonas Biru(1) said the Ethiopian gov’t failed to play well in the fields of PR and lobbying in the US. ” He is asking the 1 million Ethiopians in the US and Ethiopians in Ethiopia to press on Abi Ahmed Ali to play the ball well. I think Abi’s ball is deflated
          (1)ESAT of May 21, 2021

    • Brhan

      Merhaba haile TG,
      DIA stuck in Tigray: 1) he sees he hardly accomplished any of his adventure in Tigray. According to him and not PMAA, TPLF is still a threat to him 2) outing is not like entering. You need to agree with your foe to exist smoothly? A ceasefire must be signed with TPLF, and an agreement must be reached with TPLF? It seems A. Ahmed Ali will kick the ball first, agree with TPLF, and ask TPLF to let DIA troops leave Tigray smoothly. Catch 22

  • Aman Y.

    Selam all,

    Statement by President Joe Biden on the Crisis in Ethiopia

    MAY 26, 2021 • STATEMENTS AND RELEASES

    “I am deeply concerned by the escalating violence and the hardening of regional and ethnic divisions in multiple parts of Ethiopia. The large-scale human rights abuses taking place in Tigray, including widespread sexual violence, are unacceptable and must end.”

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    The chairman of the Senet Foreign Relations committee and the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs committee have both written a joint article in which they call:

    “The first order of business is to secure the immediate withdrawal of Eritrean forces from Ethiopia. President Biden must lead like-minded countries in seeking an international arms embargo on the Eritrean regime.

    The Biden administration should also target Eritrean officials responsible for human rights violations with economic sanctions. Targeted economic sanctions must also be applied to those who conduct any business with the regime that facilitates the carnage in Tigray.”

    The regime must be helplessly stuck in Tigray to be sitting and watching as it is put into serious sanctions.

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  • haileTG

    Selamat Brhan,

    I am looking after the shop for you, while you settle up with Abi:-)

    Latest news is that Ethiopia is requesting for Eritrean withdrawal through a letter from Berhanu Jula to his Eritrean counterpart. This news is leaked and supposed to have happened in the last two days. If true, it confuses more than answering key questions. PMAA was supposed to have discussed it with IA back in march? Why a written letter as indicated in the news? Perhaps collecting paper trail to justify that Eritrea had actually invaded and caused all the damage?? I think the news is easy to find if you google it. It is all strange. No wonder IA looked so scared or hamli mesilu yesterday;)

    • Berhe Y

      Dear HaileTG,

      Ab rEsi libka, I think, if we are too win the fight against the PFDJ, we need to be careful that we don’t dilute our unity and gain the people who are suppose to be convert to our side. Any harm that’s done to Eritrea, is not going to benefit us, regarless if the target is Isayas Afeworki and his regime. At the same time, personally I get upset when credit of our hard won independence and sucrifice is given to others.

      I observe that you are doing it a lot lately. First though, I think you chose to purposely demote Ras Abi to Guad Abi:). I agree sometimes he acts like those Guadoch kind we knew growing up, but it’s a little harsh:).

      Back to the topic “Thanks to Ethiopia recognition Eritrea independence was possible”. Let’s assume if what you said is true.

      But the question I ask you is, what are you trying to gain by such statement…when in fact you are fighting to free the Eritrean people.

      1) Do you think you will find any Eritrean, who doesn’t find this statement offensive?

      2) What are you trying to gain by such statement? Why don’t you just leave alone such statement as you will be offending, people who you actually to bring to your side.

      So let’s talk to facts on the ground in 1991. Eritrea was liberated, and Ethiopia refused to recognize. What could have happened? What were the options on the table:

      1) Ethiopia / TPLF initiates a war with Eritrean and try to gain back.
      2) Eritrean blocks Ethiopia from access to its ports.
      3) The International community gets involved and use force to remove TPLF from Eritrea liberated cities.

      Just a reminder:
      1)EPLF was armed to the teeth with all the arms it captured. It has the support of every Eritrean (except YG:)), who were willing to do anything in terms of support in money, recruits etc.
      2) The soviet union had collapsed, Easter Europe Collapse etc…where the US had a lot other big problems to solve, compared to have no direct issue with Eritrea / Ethiopia.

      What was the possible and best scenario for those politicians be it Ethiopian, AU or the world. And remember Egypt Buthros Ghali was head of the UN at the time.

      So considering all the facts in the ground at the time, giving Ethiopia Melles / TPLF (who was on shaky grounds to rule Ethiopia at the time) credit for gaining our recognition is really an insult, sorry to say and it serves no one.

      If anything EPLF sacrificed so much to make sure Ethiopia has a smooth transition.

      Now let’s compare with the scenario Tigray and Ethiopia they find themselves. Nothing can be further from the truth to remotely compare the two situations.

      I think, the likely scenario is:

      1) If Eritrea meets the condition (withdraw totally ) up to the international recognized boarders as asked by the US.
      2) Support and training is provided to Ethiopian soldiers and if peace keepers were allowed inside to stabilize the situations.
      3) If Tigrayans to take full control of the police, the military and the civilian administration of their region, and economic aid takes place, TPLF will be history as there will no body (external to fight with).

      • haileTG

        Merhaba Berhe,

        Now Abi’s demotion – not intentional at all:) Ras is feudal and Guad is
        revolutionary. I believe Abi is an ex-Ras who is now abyotawi Guad!

        In all honesty Berhe, I would say that you are being somewhat on the edge lately:) Thanks to the rain…, thanks to my teammate, …Thanks to so and so prompt response…and so forth is a figure of speech that connects a favorable condition to a desired outcome. It is hard as a bone to twist its meaning, the argument would just fail. I can see that type of straight jacket many people are putting on nowadays. Honestly, it begs a question why such Eritreans would prefer to throw away their fellow citizen with a statement they don’t like. Hawka kubur eyu, dihri hager seb eyu zedli ideology aykonen.

        Recently a supporter tired me out by arguing that my telling him Eritrea
        should avoid war meat that I want woyane to win against Eritrea. Seriously? Do you berhe believe that our stagnation as a nation was due to TPLF no war no peace? Or due to IA wrong choices? I am bringing these questions and experiences to bring it to that we need to hear and engage with open mind, based on facts and as dispassionately as possible. I wish no fellowship or friendship by people whom I have to tell less than what I know to be true to the best of my knowledge.

        Let’s be clear, we have no ZaEgole, what will happen will happen in regards to the conflict. Events, known and unknown, would guide its trajectory. I don’t want to predict anything but as Eritreans we have seen where willfully blinded worldview leads to with the trapped supporters of IA. We need to stop pushing people overboard because we don’t agree with something they say or do. Tergam hgdef zemeharo merzam bahli eyu. I would rather have 2 followers based on evident factual truth than 2000 on made up facts that serve no purpose other than feel good.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear HaileTG,

          Ok I admit I have been very sensitive. After reading what you wrote “Thanks to Ethiopia’s recognition of our declaration of independence, we avoided that narrowly. ” I see your passing comment which I misunderstood it what you meant. Sorry and thank you for being patient with me.

          My comment was not to discourage you from being truthful or gain supporters under false promise. What I am getting at is, it’s probably better to avoid controversial points that would derail the momentum and lose focus from the main target.

          Going back to your question, with regards to TPLF “no peace no war” and “IA wrong choices”. Off course it’s IA wrong choice and I must say delebrate decisions and actions. In reality, the TPLF/Ethiopia were our enemy and they fought the war with us and they will do anything in their power to take advantage of the situation that favors them. Why should we wait for their “good will” to make our conditions better (this is from practical terms) but they may as well went to bring about peace. So personally what they did to isolate IA, to get Eritrean sanctioned, to force IA to stop interfering in Somalia etc was all done for their own benefit and get out of the “hole they were in” by losing Badime in the courts.

          I argued with my brother almost 20 years ago, the boarder demarcation can take 30 or 40 years or we will never be able to see it, before it’s finalized and it’s better for Eritrea to fix it’s internal problems and move on. His answer was (ክንደይ እቲ ፋልካ ክኸፍእ እዩ።).

          A lot of Eritreans, are convinced that, the TPLF is/was an obstacle and all the bad that happened to Eritrea, the TPLF have something to do with in in one way or another.

          So personally from strategic point of view, I felt it’s to TPLF advantage:
          1) To see a peaceful and democratic Eritrea
          2) To develop economically and become a political allay than a foe and become a trading partner.
          3) It’s better the respect the rule of law and proceed with the demarcation (or give their unconditional support) to check mate IA and give the opposition (who have a tough job to sell to isolate IA from the people).

          Yes, I felt if they had accepted it (granted he will create another problem) but it is still ONE less problems for TPLF and the opposition.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Haw Berhe,

            Thanks for correcting that! No worries, it happens sometimes:)

            Now, I would like to address one point you made, which IMO connects all others, including why we are debating this at all. The point you made is:

            What I am getting at is, it’s probably better to avoid controversial points that would derail the momentum and lose focus from the main target.

            I am very aware that such a view, at an intuitive level, simple and convincing. But, does it stand to the scrutiny of logical/rational judgment? I think not! I don’t question your good intentions in this regard, we all assumed that was correct way to be at one point or another. And, I believe that it should be brought to full scrutiny, should it be found to be worth “avoiding” then we shall avoid the “controversial points”. However, upon introspection, should we find it to be necessary to discuss and expose these controversial points, courage demands it that we handle them bravely and with civility. Not everyone who attempts to shut down those discussions have good intentions though. There are certain elements, however, who feel concerned if the debate exceeds certain width X height X length package dimensions. We need to ask why are we asked to be packaged in a specified way?

            Without further a do, let me turn to examine the text I quoted you above:

            Controversial Points

            Conventional points are the opposite of controversial points. Opposition is born when the conventional is questioned, when it becomes controversial. Controversial points and how one addresses them is the very stuff that makes or breaks a progressive opposition movement. An opposition movement that opts to avoid them in order to baby-cuddle followers would have a hard time discharging its duties as a viable opposition. Imagine you avoid some “controversial points”, who would then be taking care of them? Is it not negligent to do so? Suppose I argue, as I did, Eritrea has been (economically) better managed during Derg than PFDJ in those areas active war was not going on. Now, who should challenge and refute that? The regime and its supporters or an opposition member who considers it “controversial”? Such an assertion is a major indictment against the regime of IA and his brutal rule. Isn’t it worrisome to see “justice seekers” going after the charges and attempting to thwart it?? Who benefits from that? What angle is being played here?? All so called controversies must be discussed and ascertained or refuted. Isn’t the school of thoughts idea based on Eritreans handling of controversies in the past? Who is telling us to fit our discourse in to a certain w X l X h specification? Why?

            So, Dear Berhe, we have responsibility and and are duty bound to bring all discussions to the fore and be a voice to those who have none. Be it Tigray Tigrigna, be it Metahit Kebessa, be it highland vs Tigray, be it Derg vs PFDJ… bet it whatever else we can come up with, we need to have it out above board and clearly, factually and with civility argue our cases. I remember debating YG in this forum briefly. I am fairly confident that I can hold my ground on a one on one with him. But I have no right or means to make unwarranted presumptions about his identity or other matters. That amounts to political violence. He can be targeted and put in harms way by the kind of incendiary positions we take against him. We may disagree with the opinion of fellow Eritreans but we must agree with their right to hold opinions of their choice. I.e. so long as they mean no harm to anyone (physically).

            By definition, justice seeking is about raising controversial points and struggling to make change. To avoid controversial points, means to stay conventional and that is not change seeking.

            Momentum and Focus

            Derailing Momentum means slowing down justice seeking movement. This happens the more you retreat from controversial into the conventional. There may be forces who want to “control” the momentum for whatever reasons, you can only do so by derailing it, shutting down debates, accusing debaters, name calling, insinuating charges of subversion and treason, and ultimately questioning the very identity of the debtor. Those are the practical ways in which momentum is derailed and “focus” is lost. Now, when we say “focus” we need to know we don’t share goal or focus wit the regime. At the same time, if the focus is to go after a justice seeker, we do share a goal or focus with the regime. Because that is the primary focus of the regime. Other focus are for the regime is to insist we remain conventional and avoid controversial issues or even to derail such discussions by mud-slinging and/or attempting to poison minds and sow doubts. We can only combat that by open mind approach to every one, and challenging and refuting through civil and logical discourse.

            The Main Target

            Our main target is to bring change. Change comes when we are willing to challenge and refute beliefs that keep us chained to false ideals. If the main target is therefore change, we must be willing to allow, empower and develop the questioning of conventional beliefs, self-aggrandizement, bigotry, irrational fears, judgment and narrow mindedness. Those and many such things are the real derailment from the main target. They derail momentum and lead to loss of focus.

            Finally, I have no doubt we are here to develop by each other’s contributions. Hence, we need to continue to support the right of others to have an opinion, even if we don’t support their opinion.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hailat,

            Thank you. You giving me so much home work, I have few things to keep up so I will make it short for now.

            When I wrote it, I remembered reading few things or listening to few speeches.

            On Momentum:

            It goes like this, “If ask a general or anyone else who fought a war (I have never fought on a war), they tell you momentum is everything. You spend the first half of your struggle building it up, and the second half is keeping it up.”.

            On avoid controversial points:
            There is this very successful investor / billionaire named Chamath Palihapitiya. He is the founder of Social Capital. In one of the talk/ interview he had at Stanford, he said the following, I am paraphrasing.

            There are about 150 or so people who control / influence the world today. He said, he wants to make so much money so he gets invited to that table so he can influence his views and his values according to his views. For example he says, the Koch brothers are such people who are influencing their views (to the republicans, I think he meant).

            So for example for me, if any Eritrean person or group have the idea of “Federation up to separation” or “unity up to federation or co-federation”, with what ever is non starter for me. He or she or the group have the right to express their views, but I would not spend a minute of my time to listen to argue to follow…at this point, the easier thing to do is, to align myself with people who I share the same views and values. The same as the Kock brothers will never influence me to believe “environment hoax” or what have you, there is nothing anyone can say or do to make me change my mind.

            So when I say avoid, I mean, avoiding and trying to bring two diametrical ideas into one and try to make them work. (BTW, I meant to comment on your Eritrean Constitution topic, which I have few comments) but it’s easy to go separate ways and build influence on our separate ways.

            I know, I didn’t get to tackle all your wonderful points and ideas but I am pressed for time now and may be others can pick this up.

            Thanks for engaging. I always admire your civility and your energy.

            What I have in mind is was, you were doing great job in focusing the momentum on GiE and I primary were diverting your attention from the focus we had.

            W

          • haileTG

            Selamat brother Berhe,

            Thanks, it seems we agree on a lot of things. When political positions are not plausible, I would guarantee you that it won’t be only you who would walk away. A whole vast section of the society would naturally walk away. For reasons unknown, the Eritrean political landscape had been mired on decades of circular arguments, mutual retributions and many failed starts. The GiE has attracted our interest because, as I said before, it is the right proposal at the right time. Supporting and pushing for the idea should indeed be our priority. Again, I would say that if the GiE gets up and running, it would be one heck of a monumental achievement in the annals of our history. I say this because at this time in our history, it is very difficult to see very much ahead, much less plan in a united approach.

            However, whatever the proposal may be, expect rocks to be thrown from all directions. That’s why I feel very supportive of the NTT and fully understand the great challenges they have to face. One of the distractions that is always faced at every junction is division. Going back to early 2002 until now, divisive issues were repeatedly proven to be the killer pills of every single project. So, why not kill division itself – because we can never stop divided points of views regardless the issue. And my argument is that we can neutralize division off its distractive potency by challenging intolerance, disagreeing but respecting the rights to differing views and so forth. As citizens, we can’t go our separate ways, we don’t have that option. At the very least, we ought to accommodate and give space to each other. If some one wants Federation or other arrangement to nullify our sovereignty, well and fine, they have their job cut out for themselves. They can go ahead, convince the population and sign us off in a federation. I would be too eager to be entertained by such acrobatics. But I wouldn’t go as far as exaggerating the threat posed by such fringe group and compromise on my commitment to respect everyone’s right to their view point. Such a culture of open mindedness and tolerance is also a huge capital in consolidating independence and sense of belonging.

            We need to be very watchful that the weak among us is not trampled upon in wanton. We are as good as our lowest point and we can work to push that a notch higher each time. Sadly, Eritreanness have been ruthlessly hammered by different corners in the name of Eritrean sovereignty. We need a proper checks and balances to ensure that the sense of belonging is secured in everyone no matter what they’re thinking or how they’re feeling.

            We like it or not, transition in Eritrea is closer than we might be thinking. We need to see to it that a corrective approach is taken and the PFDJ tactics of rendering Eritreans insecure and feeling outsiders would never see a day light again. Openness, truthfulness and a spirit of service and humility must return. If we commit to it, it will happen.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-TG,

            You wrote: “ For reasons unknown, the Eritrean political landscape had been mired on decades of circular arguments, mutual retributions and many failed starts.”

            Very true. In fact they do it with zeal, fun, and pleasure. Opposition for the sake of opposition. For me it raises questions I can’t answer them so far, such as: are we manageable people to run a state? Uncompromising by our nature, can a state run smoothly by its government without compromise? We have a revolting character. Can we tame this character before we become un ruling people living in a perpetual fights? I could say many thing, but these are enough questions to you, for now.

            Regard

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam Haile TG,
            Occasionally, provocative discussions that raises our conciousness are imperative to steer our outlook as well as help us mend our differences and bring us together. Your philosophically, ideologically and logically anchored arguments and thoughts are necessary framework for building the GIE. If we see things with open mind, we all learn from such discussions. Personally, I learned a lot from your discussions. As the proverb goes ” Sa’esiE ‘mo Hadarka Ay’tresiE”, we should continue to focus on NTT and the enemy at Adi-Halo.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear HaileTG,

            Mi know this may not be directly related to the topic but to be honest I am not sure what the way out of the current crises with least damage to the people and the property.

            I am not comfortable that the end of conflict in Tigray will turn into a conflict in Eritrea and how is that going to be a desired outcome, although we don’t have control of it.

            I saw the interview of General Tsadiqan on Assenna yesterday and I think it’s by far the most reasonable and the most realistic plan that I have come across.

            https://youtu.be/jnRYoaXIpSk

            Please watch and let me know what you think, if you haven’t already.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Berhe,

            Yes, I heard the interview yesterday. I agree the General is softly spoken and has calm disposition. Content wise, it is more of a hankering down and anticipating further military escalation. His belief appears to be that the balance of power will change in their favor if the Eritrean army is defeated. That may mean that the TDF plan to focus on engaging the Eritrean troops more going forward. In any case, there is a three way race going on:

            1 – TDF – popular support, home terrain, international support, locally fed and resourced

            2 – ENDF – popular support, away terrain, against international opinion, good supply of resource and man power

            3 – EDF – unpopular, hidden war, away terrain, international condemnation, poorly resourced and short on man power

            All three can’t survive the conflict. It is either IA and PMAA survive and TDF destroyed, PMAA and TDF survive and IA destroyed or IA and PMAA destroyed and TDF survives. It is unlikely but can also say TDF and IA survive and PMAA destroyed. Either scenario doesn’t bode well for IA.

            Even if you have a coup in Eritrea before the end of the conflict, it may avoid conflict in Eritrea but the withdrawal and disentanglement would prove challenging. To be honest with you, I have never imagined this level of complexity even in my wildest imagination. For Eritreans, it is high time to prepare for a potential collapse of the IA regime and followed by intractable fall out like Somalia. This is the value of GiE.

            Even the supporters of the regime need to know their timely consideration and helping to topple the regime would go a long way in averting total power vacuum. Expecting miracle would be their final crime against their people and country. Qeshi’do kinsedelom:-)

          • Berhe Y

            Dear HaileTG,

            I think your assessment is correct and I don’t have different opinion. What I like about the general message is, how he wanted to avoid future conflict and towards the two people.

            I do believe TDF will win if this conflict is dragged long. As is always the case, no invading force would survive no matter what the situation if they do not have support locally or the population is divided. Let alone Eritrean forces, even the largest and the most advanced army do not win in extended long conflict.

            What I find very appealing in his interview is, the message and choices he gave to the Eritrean Army. He is able to differentiate (which I was arguing all this time) the regular army (which is ordered to do what ever is asked) and the high ranking leaders who are responsible.

            I wish Eritreans who oppose this war, should focus in the kinds of options the General provided and advice the Eritrean army to make the right choices for their own future and stay away from involving in the inhuman actions where they will pay for it one day.

            He has also made it clear that, if the Eritrean army withdraw from Tigray abs its upto the Eritrean people to decide their future and their faith, which is also something I totally agree with.

            Tigray should learn from the mistake of Eritreans involving in Ethiopia and should not repeat the same mistake, that can only give the dictator moral ground to manipulate the people to his defense.

            The best way to defeat the dictator is to isolate him and deny him the conflict that he needs to survive.

          • Hashela

            Selam Berhe

            I agree with you that once the Eritrean army has secured the internally recognized Eritrean territories, including Badme and Irob, we should not intervene in an intra-Ethiopian issue. Even if it means having Agazians as neighbors.
            I found however strange that Tzadkan, who was pleading for the occupation and incorporation of Assab into Ethiopia (see video link below), now has the temerity to assure us that he respects “Eritrean rights fully”. This is an empty statement. If you listen carefully he avoids to unambiguously state that he respects Eritrea’s territorial integrity as defined by the international law.
            He even nebulously insinuates that historical Tigray was located in “ገምገም ቀይሕ ባሕሪ” (starting 17:12).

            If Tigrayans want to send a message to Eritrea and Eritreans, Tzadkan is the wrong messenger for the reason that is obvious in the video below

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1eVylqUpls

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hashela,

            I will watched the clip and I had listened to his interview before as well in similar topic (mainly on sea access and Asseb).

            I think that may be his wish but that’s not really why I am currently focusing on but what’s happening today in Tigray.

            I think he is military guy so he knows war more than those of us (like me) who are trying to see when things are heading,

            What it make sense to me, unlike those Eritrean opposition who are banking on TPLF after freeing their region to head to Eritrea with the support of the US/ NATO to oust IA and hand them over power.

            He is telling them,
            1) fighting someone at his home (external enemy) very hard and TDF will not be part of and the Eritrean people have to do it themselves.
            2) He us giving the Eritrean soldiers and Eritrean army who are trapped in this war an alternative to get out. His message is to the high ranking Eritrean solidiers as well as to the fighting force. He is creating a division so the leaders and commanders to divide and start questioning the legitimacy of the conflict and how long they have to sustain it.

            2.1 They can pack and leave.
            2.2 They can desert the regime and they will provide safe passage
            2.3 If not above they will be trapped in Tigray and eventually will lose.

            He basically is saying, Eritrean people and Eritrea the country is not our problem.

            People should question his intentions, and make their own judgment but if I was one of the army trapped in that war, this is a good alternative to consider rather than seal my faith with the regime and die protecting it.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile GT

            Allow me to invite myself to the discussion.

            You wrote ” ..we have a responsibility and are duty bound to bring all discussions to the fore and be a voice to those who have none. Be it Tigray Tigrigna, be it Metahit Kebessa, be it highland vs Tigray, be it Derg vs PFDJ…”

            When we are concerned with urgently pressing, internal Eritrean issues, why is Tigray, an administrative region of a foreign country, becoming one of the central issues in our argument?

            Do you believe in earnest that issues like Tigray-Tigrigni (Agazianism) and Eritrean highland vs Tigray have the potential to be a coalescing and galvanizing element for the much needed changing in Eritrea?

            Eritreans have to ask ourselves: what is the overarching goal and how can we achieve that goal? The goal is to remove the regime and it can only be achieved uniting Eritrean people. I am hard pressed to believe the new form of Tigray-Tigrigni, Agazaniams, is a uniting ideology.

            Sure, one can have discussions without purpose and focus, basically ሓሸውየ። The regime is highly specialized to skillfully exploit ሓሸውየ. It is a life-saving entertainment for the regime.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Hashela,

            The central issue is [and remains to be] the removal of the regime. None of the issues: ethnic, sectarian, political, economic, social, equity… can take a central place at this time. The regime is involved in unlawful conflict, paying lives and limbs, putting the future of the republic at risk of civil war and dismantlement. However, when people ask and discuss any topic, as justice seekers, we don’t shut them down, try to insinuate cynicism and live out bigotry and condescending treatments towards them. I have never heard Tigray Tigrigna becoming central issue. If it did, you could direct us to where it is happening (no obscure youtube talk shows pls – thanks) and we will gladly go there and make our views clear.

            Eritreans have already asked what the overarching goal is and are confident that they can achieve it. Eritreans are uniting while respecting one another and their differing view points. BTW we don’t need to re-unite because we are already united. Our uniting principle is to remove the regime and institute rule of law. We are not here to go after particular sections, as they need to be judged by public opinion once change comes.

            Finally, the best way to limit hashewye IMO is to allow for civil discussion to take place productively. Trust me, the public is capable of judging for itself and no need to concern with ideological view points that you are not interested in. But encouraging people to discuss their views freely is what we need to be skilful at.

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላማት ሃይለTG/ብርሃን
      ሓምሊ መሲሉ
      ዶ ‘ልኩም
      ጸምልዩ
      ከመይ ደኣ
      ኣብ ዓዘቕቲ ኳዩ ተሸኺሉ

      በዓል ናጽነት ዘይኮነ ዘብዕል
      ዝዳሎ ዘሎ መስል
      ኲናት ክተክል
      ወይ ድማ
      ዓሊቖምና ክብል
      ዘይውዳእ መርድእ ክነግር

      ከም ኣመሉ
      ከደናግር
      ይመስል ምበልኩ

    • Brhan

      Merhaba haile TG

      If the news is true then, Berhanu Jula will be the only gov’t official in Ethiopia who is concerned by Ethiopian sovereignty. He is also the only Ethiopian official who supports the US, which is delivering the same message. Do you think this can create a rift between the military and the politicians in Ethiopia?
      Oh about Abi….the last time , i threw the ball to him. I do not know what he is doing with the ball. He did not pass it to me. Is he playing ኣቃባቓብ?

      • Abi

        Brhan
        If you are talking about the deflated ball you threw my way it found itself in your own goal. There is a similarity between your ball and your ego. Both deflated beyond repair.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate,
    The one thing that was new from DIA’s in his independence speech yesterday was:
    “ኣውራ ኣብ ወጻኢ ዘለዉ ዜጋታት፤ ምስ ዘለዎም ፍሉይ ዕድላት ኣብ ኩሉ ግንባራት ሱታፌኦም ከኻዕብቱ እላቦ።”
    Special privileges:
    1) Money….we need your money more than ever, at least to pay back our loan Qatar
    2) Public relations: demonstrate, make petitions, conduct seminars , zooms to end the previous and current sanctions ( Yemane Moneky even though he has US citizenship is now also unable to visit you)
    3)Lobbying…oh yeah speak to your rep who gives blind eye to human rights issues and entertain the US interest in the Red Sea.

    • haileTG

      Merhaba Brhan,

      I watched it as well, very short, and a good indicator that the mad dog is finally out of moves.

      1 – He had nothing to say about his r/n ship with Ethiopia/PMAA – the latter has now officially accused him/his troops of sloughtering civilians (even Guad Abi won’t deny it now)

      2 – He was sanctioned the night before the speech, his take on US-HoA issues was old, boring, regergitation of his imperialists vs. spartan Eritrea nonsense..

      3 – He had nothing to say (could say) about any economic progress in practical sense, except temahirna alone, medeb hantsitsna alona, lebzeben kuEnti kinxegib ena…

      4 – He is yet to tell the nation that he is fighting an active industrial scale gurrilla war in Tigray that will have sever ramifications to the country. His army is accused of mass killings, systemic sexual violence, looting and destroying civilian properties…

      5 – No formal acceptance or rejection of the demand for withdrawal from Tigray, nor announcement of the how many Eritreans have been killed in Tigray so far.

      Overall, he looked tiered, short of breath and scared. He should be…

  • Aman Y.

    Selam Haw Beyan
    This amazing anti-lamentation prescription of yours has turned me it into sobbing. I was teary watching the starving kids clinging for their life’s at their unfortunate moms breasts.

    How high a value has been paid for the independence by the Eritrean people is complex and beyond my mind. The interviewees represent the majority of Eritreans. Sadly, we are witnesses to the 30 years devaluation of the independence by IA year to year.

    The documentary has also helped me clear some historical ambiguities like:
    1.Idris Awates comrades testifying his remarks about their being not bandits but fighters.
    2. Parents were sending their daughters to the field to save them from Ethiopian soldiers abuses. An elder from Afabet was complaining about the cowardly Ethiopian soldiers abusing women instead of going to the battle field.
    3. Ahmed Nasser said there was no ideological or any other difference but ambitions between ELF and EPLF. Essayas said EPLF was egalitarian, I do not know if that could be considered unique.

    4. Finally, here is part of Mussolini’s speech from the documentary “Marshal Badoglio telegraphs to-day:May 5, at 4 p.m., I entered Addis Ababa at the head of the victorious troops. (Tremendous cheers.)

    “During the thirty centuries of her history Italy has lived many memorable hours. This is certainly the most solemn. I announce to the world that the war is finished and peace re-established.”

    It sounds like Abiy is looking upto Mussoluni የሰላም ማስከበሩ ስራ ተጠናቅዋል. Ironically, Mussolini was also a Nobel prize nominee when his troops were plundering through Ethiopia.

    • Bayan Negash

      Dear Aman Y.,

      What a wonderful recap of the documentary. Now, I hope you will make the time for the two part interview of Lingo. He is a master story teller. It brings the documentary full circle to today’s Eritrea. Lingo is wise, collected, and calmly makes the points that need to be made about Eritrea’s struggle for independence and the current predicament of a rudderless nation lost in the sea trying to navigate it back to what precipitated it all. It would be one tremendous contribution if you can do a similar recap of Lingo’s interview, it would let readers know why these two optics were carefully chosen for their consumption.

      Lacking political stability, the corollaries are starvation, mayhem, deaths of untold proportions. The region deserves better than what it has been getting. Many thanks, Aman Y. for capturing the essence of the documentary.

      Cheers,
      BN

  • Mez

    Good Day Everyone,
    On this 30-th year birthday of Eritrea, the seemingly frozen (horn of Africa) regional interactions seems to be once more in motion and heating up faster.
    America looks to be on ots way to ramp up pressure on ethiopian and eritrean governments. The question is why and why now? Is tigray war really an issue of this important for the us? The question asked the other way: is america really happy about ethio-eritrian relation?
    Who is more important for pmaa-ethiopia: pia or america?

    These seems to be important questions to look closer.

    Thanks

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam prof Mez,

      It might be unexpected answer to you, but from my perspective, US found out that both leaders are dangerous for peace and stability of the Horn, though it is too late to understand them. I am baffled with your expectations to see good thing to happen from the marriage of our “cruel dictator” and the “pathological lair” Ethiopian leader. You need some introspection on your stands and expectations as an educated person.

      Regard

      • Mez

        Hi Amanuel H,
        It is not about the two governments–or their leaders “only”

        It is about the whole unfolding new dynamics in the horn.

        Since when is the us, or the democratic party to be specific” worried about humanity or war conventions?

        As to me the answer is NILL–NULL–ZERO.

        so, the million dollar question is why now? and they saying: create peace with “tplf”

        This is just hard to imagine. Since when has us democratic party led us to peace, coexistence, and prosperity?

        Us is definitely terrified by the pmaa–piaa synchronous move on regional issues.

        Amanuel, I am not a favourite to pia, or for that matter pmaaa; it is about our people man, come on sixty years of war is more than our share!

        Since when is humanitarian question an issue for us decision makers?

        Thanks

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam dear Mez,

          I don’t like going around the bush. So let me tell you straight forward. You are engaging in the politics of Eritrea. You are not against the regime of Eritrea, and if you are not, you are either sympathetic to the regime or supporter of the regime. For me there is nothing wrong whatever position you take, as far as you argue with facts and without camouflaged argument that goes take us into twist and turn.

          Second, you were in support to the war whatever your hope was out of the war – the war that is taking toll on our youth – a war that has nothing to the interest of our nation, whatsoever. From my reading you, you were expecting good thing out of the war. Albeit, the war increased the speed of the disintegration of Ethiopia – exploding wars virtually in every part of the country – to the extent part of its land is occupied by its neighbor countries. I don’t know whether that was part of your expectations. In any case I am here to debate on what you could say by quoting your words either to support them or oppose them.

          Regard

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam Amanuel H.
            Tseba astiKani

          • Mez

            Hi Amanuel H,

            Let me brief: I have no special merit in supporting the eritrean government, or any political movement for that matter.

            Bottomline: I didn’t order the tplf, nor get consulted, if
            it was wise to ignite the war. Tplf chose war, did create 5.5 ,million emergency food dependent citizens (out of 7mio.) In just three months; and the saga is still on. I have no idea if the tplf fighters are part of the fortune two million people who are feeding themselves–or part food aid recipients (a sort of food aided to fight and die)

            It takes some time to sort out and disentangle the eritrean-Ethiopian discordance; this is sixty years animosity in one or other way. We have multitudes of problems.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            Whether your argument has merits or not from the the perspective of the warring camp is not important for me. What is important for me in our debate is truth and candidness. I see neither truth nor candidness in your engagement. You support “lying regimes” which makes you untruthful and you love to rotate around the issue with no bearing that made you disingenuous.

            Regard

          • Mez

            Greetings Amanuel H,

            1) I have to admit, the topics of our discussions are compounded and diverse. I don’t blame you for anything you say. I hope we dig into the issue further–This way, hopefully me and you would never need to fire livebullet on one another; why should we in the first place!

            2) if you allow me, pivotal topics could be:
            2.1) at any cost, we have to solve the first thing first: that is maintain, enhance, and transform the eritrean ethiopian peace process.
            2.2) however hard and foggy the initial condition is, the two economies have to regrow in a complementary way.

            3) the us is very singular in handling other people’s fortunes and futures (especially thosse of black africans) –assuming the world is still politically unipolar. Who knows our region may set things in to an irreversible motion of new bi-polarism– as the suiz canal conflict put britain and france on note in the mid 1950ies.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Prof Mez,

            Pls do not expect peace with these erratic leaders. Their relation has never been intended for peace and never will be. I don’t want to disappoint you before it happen, but the despot will soon betray the pathological lair with the investigation of the crimes that has been fallen to the Tigray people.

            Second, you have said what you have to say and I did the same thing. Let’s leave it there at least for now.

            Regard

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam Mez,
            The topic under discussion is not compounded and diverse. The blurring exists in the minds of the daydreamers, who have no qualms on spilling more Eritrean and Ethiopian bloods for the sake of staying in power.
            1. You said “hopefully me and you would never need to fire live bullets on one another”. For your information, the person you are addressing has been in the line of fire, while you’re still firing poisonous bullets that hampers peaceful coexistence.
            2. Please be informed, there is no undergoing ” peace process to maintain, enhance and transform”. There is already an internationally binding peace agreement between the two countries that awaites implementation. To-date, there is no signed agreement that anybody knows, let alone, ratified by the respective parliaments. So there is nothing to be transformed. (I am curious, what do you mean by that?).
            3 Do not bother to change the old “we are brothers” to the new euphemism of “regional integration” and now to a more dumper “regrowing the two economies in a complementary manner”. Pls don’t insult our intelligence and our 30 yrs struggle for Independence.
            4. The funniest thing is you blame the US for “handling other people’s fortunes and future”, while you are vying other people territories. To be insane as isayas is your prerogative, but wishing bipolar confrontation in Eritrea is pure evil

          • Mez

            Good day Woldegabriel Tesfamariam,

            I took a note of your arguments.

            The bottom line now: how to move forward. Yesterday is history.

            Thanks

    • Brhan

      Hello Mez,

      Unlike the previous US administration, the Biden administration has made human rights its core issue in its foreign policy. The new US admin is dealing with the problems of human rights of Saudi Arabia, Myanmar, China, and Ethiopia seriously. The only exception is the Palestine issue during the recent Gaza violence, making the policy controversial.

      Do you think that the US is heavily engaged in Ethiopia due to ethnic cleansing by Amara Killil, war crimes by Eritrean and Ethiopian troops, and human rights abuses by the three in Tigray, Ethiopia? In short, do not you think its new foreign policy reflected here?

      • Mez

        Good day Brhan,
        Let us stay in our region–since we have an intimate knowledge on the whole setup.
        Finally things were on the move to hear more voices from tigray, amhara,…regarding things affecting their routine life. Remember tplf is in no way a multi-party based political platform. It is rather a stassi (german security apparatus social engineering based political construct). The us seems now trying to extend things as they are (by keeping tplf) by giving it a special privileged status; not an easy task by the way.

        That is my problem. If the us really wants to act on human right, ethnic violence included, then the shortest and best way is to establish say a robust legal, police, … institutions, encourage multiple voices from every corner, etc. This may have to include multiple iterations of justice seeking, and reconciliation dialog–from rural kebele all the way up to kill, ethiopia, eritrea,….

        Awakening of the economy will also help greatly toward stability and tolerance.

        Now, unfortunately the us is in a mood to supply stuff to kill people each other.

        Thanks

        • Brhan

          How do you do Mez,
          I will focus on our region, particularly on Ethiopia, since, this is unprecedented in Ethio-US relations. I was following ESAT interview where it hosted two experts to speak about this mater. Dr. Yonas Biru says the reason behind this US sanction against Ethiopia is because both the Ethiopian government and the Ethiopian Diaspora in the US ( 1 million, I believe) did not do its home work very well. He particularly said public relations and lobbying have being poor. What is your say?
          And another thing Mez, I believe Ethiopians are not united on this matter. Some like Ethio 360 , and I believe Riyot are for it and ESAT is against it? Why is this?

    • Peace!

      Hi Mez,

      1 – China’s Influence in the region
      2- TPLF’s lobby (thanks to the looted money)

      Don’t expect hones reply from Junta’h sympathizers. Joe Biden was the vice president when TPLF was bleeding and looting Ethiopia.

      Peace!

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear all,

    What a wonderful time I am in? I wish to everyone of you to be really in practical realty. I am reading, reading and reading and enjoying very much. I am really happy today for a reason of our national day and to see the entire world talking the sanction of our dictators. I describe the as heaven in this word while alive.

    Happy 30th Anniversary day to all..

    KS,

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Beyan,

    Thank you fir sharing. I will definitely watch them when I find time.

    I want to wish you and all Eritreans and friends happy 30th Anniversary. I was watching EriTV with my family.

    Here is a message from Mayer of LA, who witnessed the best in US and reminding us how wonderful we are and what can be.

    https://www.facebook.com/NationalErInterest/videos/1045683692624224/

    • Bayan Negash

      merHaba Berhe Y.,
      Please do watch the clips when you have time. Anything more than half-an-hour I watch it in segments. That way it doesn’t get shelved to a point of never returning to watch it. I encourage to please watch and to hopefully share your perspective as Aman Y. did on the documentary.

      Too, thank you for sharing LA Mayor Garcetti’s comments. HaileTG had said it before. Eritreans shine at individual level. LA city has its share of individual professionals working for the City government. An attestant to such a role Eritreans play within the US that you see a Mayor of major city takes his time out of his busy schedule to acknowledge the thirtieth anniversary of Eritrea’s independence. Of course, politicians have a knack for how to consolidate a voting block. By this genuine sounding message, the Mayor may have just done that.

      Does anyone know who the singer or what the the song is called toward the end of the good Mayor’s message that you shared, Berhe?

  • Haile S.

    Selam Beyan,

    You brought a highly captivating documentary and an absorbing interview that show important facets of the Eritrean struggle of independence with a background of Eritrean recent history from those that lived and observed it. Thank you!

    The words that came from the deep guts of the interviewee Eritrean combattants, mothers, fathers and families sends reverberating waves across the body nerves. Such are the load-bearing people lucky Eritrea has, whose present regime ignores all the time.

    The presence and testimony of Jean Francois Deniau in the documentary demonstrates some of the geant friends Eritrea was able to garner, but was not able to capitalize upon.

    Within the documentary are also the brave activists behind the scene pre- & post-91 like you (as you revealed on how your friendship with YG came up), who were able to coordinate from far the logistics necessary for 91 to happen.

    Jean Louis Peninou, one of the conceivers of this documentary says this when he entered Eritrea around 1977 when most of Eritrea was liberated by the two fronts:

    ” From Sahel region, Liberated Eritrea. … Travelling at a leisurely pace, the heavy Mercedes truck on which I was riding rolled across the perched stream bed that marks the border between Sudan and Eritrea…. We stopped briefly at a Sudanese border post, saluted policemen from the front, and drove on to the fortification of the former Ethiopian camp a few hundred yards further on. The blue flag with white palms of the former Eritrean federation and the EPLF tricolored banner cut across with a yellow stripe fluttered over the fortification side by side, high above the sand and rock which surround the remains of what was once a large village before the war… ” end of quote.

    The “side by side” was the biggest mis and blunder in the Eritrean fight for independence. If GiE want to re-establish this duality, it is precisely because it the cornerstone for Eritreas stability.

    Happy 30th Anniversary

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Haile S.,
      I knew by sharing these clips it will unfurl thoughtful commentaries from this vibrant forum. Thanking you from the bottom of my heart for taking the time to share your perspective on this. What I’m hearing from you and Aman Y. is the importance of a stable governance, sad to say, our region never seems to have had so far.

      It would take one genius leader with a stable mind who can tap into the immense reservoir knowledge base that the region has and one who manages to create a stable governance with institutions that function, believe you me, Haile, the region would be the tiger of Africa akin to the tigers of Asia who have had their chance to shine, we would do the same.

      Many thanks, Haile,
      Cheers,
      BN

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Beyan,

        “……the region would be the tiger of Africa akin to the tigers of Asia who have had their chance to shine……”

        (a) it was the dream even for those who do not believe on good governance and institutions.

        (b) there is a big difference on their attitudes to each other and work ethics between the two region.

        (c) there are formidable forces in the Horn that oppose to the “developmental state” – the engine of the fast economic development for the tiger states of South East Asian counties.

        Look Ethiopia that had showed un imaginable strides in terms of economic, infrastructural, educational progress, and creating fast middle class, under the “developmental state” for the last two decades, has pulled back to the old economic system that kept it as hunger stricken nation for generations.

        So we need to evaluate the character of the people of the region, before they dream anything of that kind. That is my take on the entanglement of the region.

        Regard

        • Bayan Negash

          merHaba Haw Amanuel H.,

          No arguments to your well reasoned assertions. You’re right, to get to a stable system of governance requires certain dispositions. For example, The Marshall Plan worked in Germany and Japan in the aftermath of WWII because these two countries already had certain dispositions that made them to develop economically fairly quickly.

          The same attempt in places like Iraq and Afghanistan would be next to impossible to accomplish. Similarly, our region may have certain dispositions that make them fall into the latter type rather than to that of Japan and Germany or to those of South East Asian countries.

          Cheers,
          BN

  • Brhan

    ባህጊ ናጽነት

    እወ በዓል
    ባዓል ሓወይ ባዓል ሓፍተይ
    ንኣካለ ስንኩላን ጥራይ
    ዘይኮነስ ንመስዋእቲ ዝበሉ ሕራይ

    ከመይ ዘይብዕሎ ኣነ
    ባህጎም ስለዝኣምነ

    ባህጎምሲ …
    ኣብ ዓደይ ክገይሽ ብዘይ መንቀሳቐሲ
    ክዛረብ ከይፈርሕኩ ትራክ “ሲ”
    ክሓርስ ብዘይ ኣጣምዪ ሚንስቲሪ ሕርሻ
    ክንግድ ብዘይ ሓጎስ ክሻ
    ክመሃር ብዘይ ዕጽዋ
    ከም ሳዋ

    ባህጎምሲ
    ክህልው ሕጊ
    ከይድገም ከምቲ ናይ ደርጊ
    ገደዱ ናይ ሎሚ ሰብ ዘንጊ
    ኮንተይነር ዝመሃዙ ዘርጊ

    ባህጎምሲ
    ሃገርና ክትከውን ቅዋማዊት ዲምክራሲ
    ሕዝቢ ወከልቱ ባዕሉ ክሓጺ
    ኣብ ጉዳይ ሃገሩ ድማ ክህልዎ ድምጺ

    እዚ ናቶም ባህጊ ከም ጭርሖ
    ንደጋግሞ ንዘርግሖ
    ይኣክል እናበልና ንደርግሖ

    ርሑስ በዓል ናጽነት !

  • haileTG

    ሃገር ኣይኮነን ኣይዲኦሎጂ
    ኣፍሪቃዊ ኣይኮነን ወይ ፈረንጂ
    ራባይውን ኣይኮነን ቀሺ ወይ ሓጂ
    ታሪኽ ኣይኮነን ናይ ቀደም ናይ ሕጂ

    ሃገር ሰልፊ ኣይኮነን ወይ ማሕበር
    ቅዋም ኣይኮነን ወይ ፖለቲካዊ መስመር
    ልፍንታዊ ኣይኮነን ወይ ዝጻረር
    ፍትሒ ኣይኮነን ወይ መግዛእቲ ዓረር

    ሃገር ስርዓት ኣይኮነን ወይ ንግስነት
    ቁጠባ ኣይኮነን ርእሰማልነት
    ፍልስፍና ኣይኮነን ወይ እምነት
    ልቦና ኣይኮነን ወይ ፍሽለት

    ባይታዩ ናይ መቦቆል ካብ ኦሪት ዘበን
    ናይ ማያትን፣ ወሓይዝን፣ ፈለግን
    ናይ ጎላጉል፣ ስንጭሮን፣ ጎቦታትን
    ናይ ቀቢላ፣ አንዳታትን፣ ሰባትን

    ኣስማት እናቀያየረ
    ዘንተ እለት ዘሎ ዝነበረ
    ሰፊሕ ድሕረ ገጽ ንኹሉ ዘስፈረ
    ብዙሕ ርእዩ ብዙሕ ዝቀበረ
    ኣይወሃብ ኣይውሰድ ዝተገብረ እንተተገብረ

    ብሩኽ በዓለ ዓመት ናጽነት ኤርትራ
    ዓመተ ፍትሒ፣ መፈጸምታ ሕሰም መከራ
    ዓመተ መሰል፣ እሱራት ዝወጽእሉ ሓራ
    ዓመተ ዕርቂ፣ ይግበረልና መኸተምታ ጉጉይ ዕንደራ

    እስኪ በሉ ሰብ ዓዋተ፣ ይርሓሰኩም ይርሓሰና
    እንቋዕ ኣብጽሓና፣ ነቶም ዘየለዉ ድማ ባዕሉ ይቀበለልና።

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Really nice poem, HaileTG!
      What a talent!

      • haileTG

        Thanks MM!

        The thought that occurred to me was that we all say we love our country and quickly fall and mix it up with what it is not. I wonder whether we take time occasionally to reflect on what this thing called “country” really is? That is why I reflected:

        ኣስማት እናቀያየረ
        ዘንተ እለት ዘሎ ዝነበረ
        ሰፊሕ ድሕረ ገጽ ንኹሉ ዘስፈረ
        ብዙሕ ርእዩ ብዙሕ ዝቀበረ
        ኣይወሃብ ኣይውሰድ ዝተገብረ እንተተገብረ

        I am glad you’ve enjoyed it my good brother!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat-TG,

          There is something weird in the thought process of Eritreans? I haven’t heard Eritreans saying I love my people. We often hear saying I love my country. Shouldn’t we love to the people who made the country our property than excessive love to the property itself? Is the country made us proud or it’s people? It is from that weird thought process we valued the land more than the it’s people. To defend your country as a property is natural, but to love your country more than it’s people is un natural and an irony to rational human being.

          Regard

          • haileTG

            selamat Aman H,

            I understand what you mean but I would settle for valuing the people of the country, loving would be an over reach (it may or may not happen easily). Republicans in the US may not love Democrats and it gets more personal if you observe them closely in hated exchanges during discussions on right wing or liberal/left leaning media. Love is the last thing that would come to mind.

            But, when it comes in the rule of valuing the people, I agree with you, we are probably the top place in the Hall of Shame! You can see small snippets of such tendency in this very medium from time to time. I have never seen such preponderance of people who question each other’s citizenship based on disagreement on sectarian, racial or political matters like us. Sometimes it is less than 3-4 exchanges before one side jumps up and down declaring the other non-Eritrean. Honestly, it is meaningless and embarrassing habit that needs a good reflection. I also contend that the despicable despot is the one who diluted and poisoned Eritrean civic and cultural disposition and degraded it to such a
            level.

            So, the key for me is that every Eritrean must value a fellow Eritrean regardless of differences. The special exception to this rule is the key PFDJ operatives (not your average Joe supporter). Those people are demonic, I know them first hand.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-TG,

            I agree the love affinity to each other was diluted by the divisive and cruel PFDJ regime. But, it is clear to me that the “love and value” of my people drove me to the mountains and valleys of Eritrea to fight against their oppression, and not the love of the land. Otherwise I was working in a profession I use to love and was living comfortably without any grievances. So everyone has his/her own reason why they join the fights. I hate to lie and I will tell you proudly that the land is the product of the fight of my people, I dearly love. However, we can make our land lovely to it’s people and to outsiders. I think we can register our difference on the “love” issue.

            Regards

  • Abi

    Selam Beyan Negash
    Very Patriotic article just in time for Independence Day!!

    Derg kept Asmara University during the war. The university was full to capacity. Besides, Eritreans were all over Ethiopia in different universities and colleges. Eritreans benefited greatly from the quota system Derg used in admitting students.
    Apparently, you haven’t paid enough attention or your patriotic glasses are blurring your vision.
    Happy Independence Day!

    • Brhan

      Hello Abi, Come on, the quota system in Derg times was a sham. Students joined the universities according to the number of beds of the universities and colleges’ dormitories, not ESCLE marks. The Ministry of Education at that time hast to raise the point from year to year, because the demand (students’ number increased) but the supply ( the beds) didn’t

      Secondly, the Derg kept the universities open, but as you know it from the bottom of your heart, it arrested/killed many of the graduates and made others flee the country. Not only that, but it also massacred its military institution’s graduates that reached high military ranks in one single day.

      Tigrinya speakers used to call the Derg not ደርጊ but ዘርጊ, which means በታኝ. ስለ ደርግ ያለህ ሃስብ ብትንትን ያለ ሃሳብ ነው። ቶሎ ኣስተካክለው

      • Abi

        Brhan
        It is clear that you have got no clue about what you are talking about. The universities and colleges were under Commission for Higher Education ( የከፍተኛ ትምህርት ኮሚሽን). Higher education and scholarships were the responsibilities of the commission. Ministry of education came in the picture with ኢህአዲግ.
        I know you are allergic to facts.
        Happy Independence Day!
        Independence from truth, that is.

        • Brhan

          Hi Abi,
          Thanks for corrections: Commission for higer education. But the fact remains the same: the quata system was sham and the Derg killed many graduates, including its cadets who reached to generals and major generals.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I suggest you find some research papers at IER ( Institute of Educational Research, IDR ( Institute of Departmental Research, Commission for Higher Education, UNESCO, and many more before you jump into something you have no clue about.
            In the last months of Derg, Asmara University was relocated to Agarfa in order to continue functioning. Now that is commendable!! Derg could have easily shut down the university.
            Since it is your Independence Day, I let you go easy. I’m more happier than you will ever be because of your independence.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Research is good but it is not the only source. Exprience. I am speaking from my exprience with the secondary school leaving exam, the quota system and and how the the Derg was bad to all, inluding the 13 provinces of that time. If you are telling me you love the Derg, what can I do? Enjoy it. File closed.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            The point is not whether I like Derg or not. Don’t blame Derg just because you flunked ESLCE. You should have attended classes and studied harder. Blaming others is a typical characteristic of weak people.
            Did I say l like Derg? See, your problem is ያልተፃፈ ማንበብ:: የተፃፈውን አንብበህ ቢሆን ኖሮ የማትሪክ ፈተና ታልፍ ነበር::
            የማንበብ ብቻ ሳይሆን በሚገባ የመረዳት ችግር እንዳለብህ አረጋግጠሃል::
            University Closed!

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Let me ask you a question: how many students made it to university or college when you were at grade 12 from your class? Be honest. At that time in the commerece department of Asmara Sec. School , formerly Luel Mekonnen where it had 4 classes, each with 40 students, only 4 , including myself made it. 4 out of 160. Arts department , none! Science, less than a quarter. I am sure this was the trend in Ethiopia during the Derg who was busy with war.
            The Arabs says he who do not know you ignore you: as I have told you I made it to university and even won 2 scholarships to study abroad. I prefered the last one.
            So we when speak about the Derg, let us be honest. I can only give the Derg a credit for the “land to the tiller” program but not for education.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Your statistics (4out of 160) does not reflect a very high number of Eritrean students in Ethiopian universities and colleges.
            You should be thankful that the Derg you hate facilitated your scholarship. You were not discriminated even if Derg knew you would never come back.
            You don’t need to give credit for anything. It is not expected from someone like you who grew up consuming false propaganda.
            Glad you achieved your independence.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi and Brhan,

            Abi, we need to take your statistics with grain of salt. You keep saying “Eritreans had more quota to Universities compared to the rest of the provinces”. Let’s agree that was the case but, why do you think that was.

            1) Were they scoring higher in the exams?
            2) Where they had certain spots reserved for them?

            I think the reason is, may be on average, there may be higher number of penetration at the lower grades that fed to the university and collages may be compared to other places. I think, it would be nice if you can compare, how many students from Eritrean were taking 12 exam on regular bases as compared to the percentage of the population.

            I know you like to give credit to the Derg and Haile Slassie for Eritrean education, but that’s not totally the case. As I had learned lately there were equal or more number of schools (public and private) during the federation (meaning before HS compared to after) until that number increased in certain sections but totally collapsed and destroyed in a lot of other pars where the war was waging.

            Haile Slassie is good at taking names and places he has no business of having. For example, as Brhan said he went Luul Mechonen high school but Haile Slassie or Luul Mechonnen had nothing to do with the school or it’s establishment. they just took the name and replaced is. As we for Etege Memen.

            The one school that was build during HS was KeHes (which become high school) and Agazian elementary/ middle school.

            As to to the Asmara University, it was not build by him or his administration. It was under the Catholic sisters (Santa Familia) and was run primary by Eritreans.

            Since you seem to know the main actors in Ethiopian education, can you name one famous teacher that was send to teach in Eritrea University?

            I know some of the famous Ethiopian students who come out of AA university, for example the author of Sememen book:).

            With or without Ethiopia Eritrean were capable of doing a lot things in their own.

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,

            I am speaking about the system: how bad the education system was during the Derg not only to Eritreans but also to Ethiopians, and he is talking only about Eritreans. What is this obsession of him with Eritreans?

          • Abi

            Berhe
            I’m tired of arguing with people who grew up consuming fake news.
            “ሞኝ የቋጠረውን ብልህ አይፈታውም”
            I totally agree with your conclusion that Eritrean are capable of doing a lot of things on their own.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You don’t like it when asked to provide supporting evidence.

            Where would people consume fake news from? All the media was controlled by the state and it was on brain washing and propaganda campaign all through our lives.

            DimTsi Hafash, was the only other source, which was very difficult where Ethiopia Air Force and Soviet engineers worked so to hijack and scramble, not to mention the so many spies who would expose the family/ house hold for listening to “wombedewoch”. In fact this has worked so much that I thought all the buildings, schools, roads who were named after the king, his family or Ethiopians were build by them, the fact is they renamed everything. (Yohannes ArateNa, Qedemawi Minelik, Niyala Hotel, meda Ethiopia, Luul Meconnen, Etege Menen, some Balcha guy…

            There was no Ibrahim Sultan, no Woldeab Woldemariam, or any Eritrean for that matter.

            There was one guy who was friends with my father who worked at ministry of education/ he was head of something, where he was caught watching or listening the radio along others and they were all sentence to death and killed.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            You must be out of your mind if you demand ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ or አብዮታዊ ደርግ to name a school or a hospital commemorating Ibrahim Sultan and Woldeab Woldemariam .
            Question for you brother Berhe,
            How many schools, roads, hospitals, built ( don’t laugh) or named after the above mentioned gentlemen in the last 30 years?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I think we made it (all Eritreans) clear that IA was worst than all others before him.

            If we had left us alone we would have build everything that there is to be build in our own.

            The point is, because IA has turned out worse, it doesn’t mean Derg or HS were good to us.

            Why are you criticizing TPLF today, as compared to Derg and HS they have built a lot more?

            Yes, why not. Ibrahim Sultan was a founding father of Eritrea and parliamentarian. Who is Balcha Malcha guy, that the streets are named after. Don’t you see how stupid and pathetic the Ethiopian rulers are. They come other people homes destroy everything and they are surprised why people chose death and sacrifice rather than live under subjugation.

            There is schools named after him and if not mistaken Woldeab Woldemariam as well.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            In case you conveniently forgot, During the years 1964-1968 , thirty five factories were built in and around metropolitan Asmara. As you precisely guessed it, it was during the ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ የበጎ አስተዳደር ዘመን that all these factories built.
            ስንቱን ነገር ላስተምርህ? You can call him pathetic or stupid or whatever new word you learned lately, the facts and factories remain on the ground forever.
            Again, I leave the comparison for you. My duty is introducing you with the facts.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know you are obsessed with this topic as the truth is far from facts. I never heard and never seen any factories that was build by HS government which was never owned and operated by an Italian or other foreign names.

            On the same time period, can you list the factories that he build in Ethiopia? And compare that with the factories build under TPLF.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            I have told you several times before that you have been consuming fake news all your life that you become allergic to facts on the ground.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Please don’t do it because I asked you, but please stop using “fake news”.

            Now that Trump is gone, people got a sigh of relief and the last I think we need is, Abiy / Ethiopia get replaced for it.

            Now seriously, what and where did I get the fake news from.

            It’s the life we lived, how can it be news to me.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            A wise person said, “ It is easier to fool someone than to convince him that he has been fooled “
            You have been fooled all your life.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Ok let’s say I have been fooled. How about you ?

            Aren’t you and your people been on the same struggle against the same rulers.

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Abi and Berhe Y,

            I was hearing and watching your debate, we are in the same boat. May the stage differ but the we are in the same stage of ignorance.

            We should work united to come to clear solution which is heaven on earth. I am watching those days the contradiction in horn meaningless. I am watching the complicated way of Ethiopia. And all the crimes of Both dictators over the Tigray and who was also committing crime in its time. That is karma (action and effect). We have to think and act just naturally. I advice both to come calm and just watch.

            KS,,

          • Brhan

            Abi
            By the way I am speaking about the Derg era and Eritrea was not the only province the Derg ruled. I am speaking about the country. Why were Eritreans in high number? Why not students from Welega, Harare, Arsi, Bale, Ilubabor, Wolo, Tigray , Showa etc students.
            Are you telling there was no problem in education during the Derg who allocated the lion’s share of its budge to war?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Please remind me who the derg was fighting? አብዮታዊ ደርግ የሰሜን ወንበዴዎችን እየተዋጋ ምስጋና አልቦ ልጆቻቸውን ያስተምር ነበር ::
            Try that with Isu.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Poor Derg: was fighting Siad Bare, EPRP, MEISON,ECHAT, EPLF , TPLF ,OLF. Why did it had many enemies in Ethiopia than Eritrea?

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Gash Abi,

      I was trying to catch up on what I missed for a whole week in the forum. Your entry was the last one I saw when I decided to add a paragraph in this article about it so it becomes the bone of contention.

      The urge to compare using one negative experience to another in an effort to suggest, therefore, one is better than another – YG has a term for this – “equality by subtraction”. In other words, imagine telling African Americans that Blacks were treated better in the 20th Century because they were free men as opposed to the 19th Century when enslaving African Americans was legal. “What you been smoking cuz”, in a much more colorful way that I cannot write here, would be the response one would hear. They will give you a laundry list of atrocities that were committed against African Americans, which can readily come to mind. Brhan has already given you the variation thereof.

      Cheers,
      BN

      • Abi

        Selam Beyan
        I’m not comparing Derg with Eplf/PFDJ. I leave that for Eritreans to compare and judge for themselves. I’m just stating the fact that Derg kept the university running and Eritreans were attending higher education institutions all over Ethiopia.
        You made it sound like Derg kept only the building with no students.

        • haileTG

          Hey Guad Abi,

          Being mindful of the high fervor for the struggle for independence at the time, we grew up during those years highly charged.

          In truth, it is like comparing apples and poison imitation plastic apples (PFDJ). During Derg, places were short at UoA and relocating was a must at times. In PFDJ, a Toyota Pick-up driven by uniformed EDF would drive up behind the disbanded UoA building to collect ransom money paid by diaspora Eriteans to save their brother or sister kidnapped in Sinai. Those pick-ups are nick named nai-kulit.

          Having grown up in Derg years and seeing PFDJ Eritrea, I would never speak for the latter which is pure evil.

        • Bayan Negash

          Selam Abi,
          Please read my response to Haile TG above as the thread you and I are engaging here partially threads there as well. I have no quarrel with your point of contention. Much as “i made it sound like Derg kept only the building with no students”, your assertions made it sound as though all was well. That nobody was being taken from school to be drafted to the military during the Derg. This is firsthand account that my younger brother told me was happening. In school, the Kebele reps would come and force-draft the kids. Moral was way too low. The kids didn’t go to learn, overall that is, they went because they had to.

          Too, worth mentioning here is, again, this is firsthand account where these very kids who weren’t sure whether they would be forced to fight against Eritreans in the fields would find their teachers in bars and pay for their drinks, guess what? The passing grades were granted. Similarly, teachers were invited to lunch and dinner to the well to do parents’ houses, the same thing will happen – their kids will receive passing grades. So, you can see when there is no stable governance, the cascading effects and down spiraling quality of education is inevitable. This was both in Asmara and in Addis.

          Lack of stable and secure government reaps corruption. Until our region finds its way to a stable governance every other sector will suffer. Recently I read “Why Nations Fail”. I concur with the authors’ assertions, which in essence. Here is the gist of their message. They provide data from all over the world to show the veracity of their argument:

          “Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty is an examination of the causes of economic inequality. Authors Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson conclude that underdevelopment is caused by political institutions and not by geography, climate, or other cultural factors.”

          Cheers,
          BN

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Beyan,

        The article penned by YG, “Unity by subtraction”, was the right statement that defined the journey of our revolution from the get go to the conclusion, within the grand cause of our struggle. It was a remarkable article even that defines the 30 years journey of the opposition camp. That is an original piece, historians of the new generation should take note of it to write the history of our complex politics of the struggle. The second one is “counting the uncounted”. The problem with YG, however is not a principled person to trust him in a collective struggle. He was for the cause of our struggle before he become against it.

        I remember when we were together in “Hidmo wifuyat” at asmarino.com. He challenged me as to how our armed struggle did consolidate the Eritrean identity? I wrote an article to prove it. However, to challenge my accounts he came with the infamous article “Romanticizing Ghedli”. The rest is history.

        Regard

        • Bayan Negash

          MerHaba Haw Amanuel H.,

          Thanks for sharing the genesis two of YG’s seminal work. I didn’t know the “Romanticizing Ghedli” was in response to your piece. Interesting. At any rate, where I am finding a disconnect is between the commentator YG and the writer YG. In the case of the former, nobody could outshine his logical thought process. He is very convincing, compelling, and simply put, a powerhouse genius thinker. In the case of the latter, however, he has a lot to be desired for I am now learning. I was never a fan of talking heads who would spend hours and hours talking pre-youtube and FB era. So, I have begun to listen in the last year or two in more systematic ways, you know, those that trusted friends send you and those that I come to when I am scouring to find something I can learn from like that of Lingo’s, for example.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Beyan,

            I am late to read your response. Just to make it more clear as to why I said in response to my article. He asked me to write on how the Eritrean struggle consolidated the Eritrean identity. I did. He came out with his article right after my article was published. I don’t know exactly whether he made it ready before my own, or he wrote it after mine is published. We had back and forth debate on the issue at Asmarino, for weeks. Finally I wrote an article upon his request and he came with his own a well crafted article to disprove the argument by saying that ghedli has nothing to do on consolidating Eritrean Identity. I hope I am clear now.

            Regard

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Kbur Haw Amanuel H.,

            Duly noted. Very clear, indeed!

      • haileTG

        Kubur Bayan,

        I think the best line of defense would be to assert the obvious which is that we have all the means and potential to build and rebuild Eritrea even better than the HS, Derg, PFDJ era. However, the latter cannot be compared to anything remotely human. More Eritrean youth attend jails than universities and children with/out mothers are also jailed in peace time. During Derg, mothers and children attended evenings extension classes at UoA so the mother (with potential) can graduate. My sister did that.

        • Bayan Negash

          merHaba Haw Haile TG,
          No doubt the potential and the capacity of Eritreans, Ethiopians, Somalians, Sudanese are more than capable in contributing to the greater good of humanity. This lack of a stable governance with functioning institutions has been and continues to be our folly.

          You shared you sister’s success. She is probably a rarity. Let me share with you what I know how the educational systems both in Eritrea and Ethiopia were deteriorating. My younger brother had the opportunity to go through the K-12 in both Eritrea and Addis. In the former he did up to 10th and in the latter the rest of his high school years.

          He gives the Derg some credit (Abi your note is heeded, I will come back to you in a few minutes) for sustainable educational system. Where he faults the Derg is in how it watered it down to where 75 to a 100 percent equals an A. 60 to 74 = B. 50 to 59 = C. 40 to 49=D.
          This can hardly be called educating productive citizens notwithstanding those who can shine will always shine but when one is governing a nation, it has an obligation for its curriculum and instruction to be of a stellar standard. What the Derg did can hardly be called that. The rest of the ideas I have about this I will give a response in Abi’s column.