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Eritrean Government in Exile: A Possible Third School of Thought

The emergence of literary national identity, Transcendentalism can be an instructive model as Eritreans are grappling toward the formation of a government in exile. In the 1820s and 1830s Transcendentalism helped marshal an emergent American culture in the definition of its literary national identity. Prior to Transcendentalism, thinkers looked at Europe’s past to create literary legend for the United States; but this looking back to Europe for America’s past made it difficult to move forward out of the shadows of the old European influence. Ralph Waldo Emerson’s Transcendentalism wanted the country to look forward to the future, to new horizons and to new possibilities for its people to dream the American dream, among other things. Emerson’s original idea engaged a host of subsequent thinkers like Thoreau, Fuller, and Hawthorne, and Whitman, just to mention a few. Some were in sync with Emerson’s ideas of transcendentalism others not only did they disagree with it but mocked transcendentalism and its author, nevertheless, were engaged in it even as they were opposing it.

Eritreans might be having difficulty separating from their past history, which goes way back to the 1940 when some were in sync with going it alone and in keeping the Eritrean identity that was already formed while others looked back at Ethiopia for their national identity. The notion of Eritreans lacking identity is a false assertion through and through. Eritrean identity was established starting in the 1940s. Today, there is a country with its flag with its territorial integrity with its majority who wear their identity as a badge of honor.

The 1940s era of crisis appears to be rearing its ugly face only now instead of Ethiopia they are wanting to cling to another region in Ethiopia. The 1940s crisis led to a thirty-year revolutionary war for independence. A critical juncture seems to be in the offing now where some Eritreans are looking back to Tigray as part and parcel of Eritrean identity.

The forceful push back from some other Eritreans is to vehemently oppose an assertion that ties Eritrea back to Ethiopia in general and to Tigray in particular. Their counter arguments are premised in the ultimate price paid to the realization of Eritrea as a nation being unshakeable; that Eritreans see their diversity as the ultimate strength for their pluralistic society. This group embraces Eritrean diversity to a hilt much as Booker T. Washington poignantly captured what it meant to be multicultural society. He said, “In all things that are purely social, we can be as separate as the fingers yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress.”

What the latter group does is refuse essentialization of Eritrean diversity. In other words, all that needs to be done is rid Eritreans from the regime that only knows how to create a crisis and keep the country in that perpetual loop for generations to come; searching a way of disrupting such untenable existence so Eritrea and Eritreans look forward to the bright future as any other civilized nations in the world is in the reckoning now. Singapore was able to transcend from its Malaysian past, eventually seeing the opportunity a port can offer. Singaporeans made good with it and they made peace with their neighboring, a much larger nation, Malaysia. All they needed to do was, as Booker T. Washington said in 1895, to “cast their buckets where they were” and that’s exactly what they did, and they have had peace and prosperity ever since. Rwanda has been able to overcome the internal obstacle it faced because it was able to transcend the crisis it faced in an efficient manner. That seems to be what Rwandans have done and all indications are Eritreans are more than capable of doing that and more.

Consider two poignant stories told that attest to the solidness of Eritrean national identity, one by an Ethiopian the other by an Eritrean. A fascinating testimony is told by a former governor of Eritrea from the Dergue era. Mr. Dawit Woldegiorgis, unequivocally admits and attests to seeing the Eritrean identity firsthand, which can easily be accessed by entering his name on YouTube.

The Eritrean story is none other than the scholar, Professor Bereket Habteselassie. He relates a story his father told him growing up about a friendship his father had with Haj Imam Musa. One who believed Eritrea’s best interest was becoming a part of Ethiopia and the other who believed in Eritrea’s independence. Their differences didn’t get in the way of their friendships. Decades later the sons of the two parents would end up serving in the constitution commission of Eritrea, both of whom trained lawyers in their respective professions.

The first anecdotal story above illustrates that Eritrean identity cannot be wished away as he was one of the individuals in charge of weakening Eritrean national identity and aspirations to become a sovereign nation. The second story solidifies in the belief that differences can be worked out so long there is that trust between and among all stakeholders. All and all, from Haile Selassie to Dergue to now, Eritrean identity continues to be sealed by blood and bones of thousands of Eritreans’ ultimate sacrifices. Ain’t no unsealing such deeply ingrained identity, come hell or high water.

As an antidote to this national identity crisis and, of course, the major political crisis that has unfolded in our region in recent months, Saleh Younis’s initiative is trying to urge Eritreans to look back to their ghedli heritage to formulate Eritrean Government in Exile. A crisis of its own making has clearly been descending upon the regime in Eritrea since the war of 1998-2000. The slow motion of 23 years of governing in a crisis-mode appears to be in a culmination phase. The rise of an opportunity from this crisis for Eritrea’s opposition groups the obscurity has suddenly shifted to clarity. Click Here for a piece that offers some salient suggestions in how to turn a crisis to opportunity with five point brief explanations.

Questions abound, here are a few worth entertaining: Are Eritrean opposition groups ready to seize the moment? Can the two schools of thought based on the ELF and EPLF heritage accomplish the job of GiE? Is it possible for there to be other schools of thought? This paper will argue there is in fact a third school of thought that should be added in the formation of the GiE before it hits the ground running?

Lessons Gleaned from 25 Years Diaspora Political Activism

If experience can be used as a guide in civil, social, and political activism within the Eritrean context, plentiful can be discerned and ascertained for future lessons. That future is now. One critically important pivotal moment appears to finally be reckoning and has come at the doorstep of Eritrea’s activists in diaspora to seize that moment. The continued failure of forming a united front to fight for justice in diaspora point to a myriad of reasons and directions. The ELF and EPLF offshoots are not necessary to enumerate here, it is safe to say there are more than five on each side of the camp, perhaps triple more in the former than in the latter. The gist of wishing to go back to the drawing board and giving legitimacy to these two fighting forces is understandable as they are not only the authentic heir but part and parcel that put the current regime in power. There is one big IF, however, worth considering.

There are more people in diaspora outside these two opposition camps who – to be blunt about it – belong to neither. In fact, the wish for many of these former liberation fighting forces is to have their proper spaces in the history books and not to be resurrected via the ballot boxes. Granted, Saleh Younis emphasizes for his readers to see the ELF and EPLF as “schools of thought”, and once one makes such a shift in thinking it could proof to be easier to choose one or the other. The dilemma in this line of thinking is this: It has been over forty years now since the hey-day of these fighting forces when they held sway in the public imagination. Today, at minimum, the indifference far outweighs it for anyone to go back to the drawing board and pretend to belong to one of these political organizations. It is why the question of why not include the Yiakil and other popular movements as well as other political parties is being murmured in various social spaces.

History of A Mistrust

One fundamental issue that gets in the way of having a successful movement – be it political, social, or civil – rests not only in needing to have “the active participation of the people struggling in unison” but also when the public senses that “the movement reflects [their] aspirations and when they view the leadership as being capable of leading [them] to victory” (p. 13). Lacking this, it is a definite road map to “disunity” and “lack of trust” between and among various factions. Of course, the natural corollary to this kind of polluted social and political environment will be Government in Exile (GiE) lacking in efficacy, hence, an assured path toward others forming their own GiE as Dr. Awet has warned in the recent conversation he had with Ato Hiruy T. Bairu as hosted on Yiakel’s FB weekend show.

Therefore, limiting mass participation by asking diasporic Eritrean communities the world over to join a tightly run two political camps will be a daunting task. Instead, it would be instructive to face the issue head-on by inviting for “a broad[er] coalition of commitment and not just a coalition of convenience[,] the central features [of which ought to address the] how and [the] why…

Beyond the above, one has to be mindful broad coalitions and alliances require due diligence of the highest order both as vested in the time-honored tradition of activism, time and the wherewithal that could help fund the logistics of the Government in Exile (GiE) until the stated goal is achieved. Taking the liberty to quote at length is meant to show readers that these public documents are a gem where the burnishing of the GiE ought to begin.

“Plurality of Eritrean society demands the adaptation of “divergent strategic views” in order of “form[ing] growing alliance. Partners in an alliance need to have the same or similar views on the fundamental and principal issues. Depending on the degree of similarities concerning their political programs, political orientations and political perspectives on national issues, alliances can be formed at different levels – the continuum could go from complete union at one end to a federation of democratic forces at the other end. In the context of Eritrea, for instance, forces that want to form an alliance at the national level need to have the same or similar views in their vision, mission, and principles by which to abide by.

Concluding Remarks:

The Eritrean revolutionary experience should be worn as a badge of honor as it undeniably defined the Horn of Africa and inspired others to emulate it. The EPLF experience is the Eritrean experience. The ELF experience is part and parcel of Eritrea’s experience. Owning both Fronts’ pitfalls as well as their successes is the only way that can propel a society to move forward. The continuous barrage of mistrust needs to be overcome. Countries that have succeeded were able to see beyond their past. Recognizing the weakness of each and finding a way to work in tandem despite it should be the aim. Mistrust is still operating within the psyche of Eritreans and we have not transcended it. Yet, we are ready to fight and die for the formation of a nation, yet the natural resources and wealth that country is endowed with we can’t seem to put it to good use. There is an untapped wealth of human capital that Eritrea has yet to put to a good use. We must find a way of unbounding ourselves from regionally tainted civil or political movements. Similarly, we should do the same toward other narrowly defined as ethnically and religiously based movements.

There is a successful story that transcended the obstacles of religion, ethnicity, gender gaps, where Eritreans from all walks of life who attended the conference can attest to. This group had done what nobody had been able to do in the annals of diaspora activism that goes back close to 30 years now. Through the vision of 50 percent Eritreans from one group to the 50 percent of the other, they were able to accomplish a great deal. It’s all documented for public consumption. The central thesis of this article is not only inspired by their work but all the quotes of which emanate from it. The monumental success of the conference held in 2019 at Berkley, California is your clue. The fifty percent vision is (your other clue) not necessarily a perfect vision, but it is an aspiration that keeps the group to remain faithful towards that goal. At times, granted, the ratios will fluctuate but being faithful to it at all times strengthened the trust. Hiccups are inevitable in such settings of a mosaic population; the work nevertheless was completed despite the obstacles associated with divergent points of views.

Obviously, the above is meant to help Saleh Younis and his colleagues to see for the need of opening beyond the tight ship of ELF and EPLF based GiE that he is championing the formation of. Once some of the above issues are incorporated, then, one can address the nature of the transitional government, the need for a temporary transitional constitution, its mandate clearly stipulated. Thereafter, it would be ostensible for the need of addressing issues of constitution and the rule of law.

About Beyan Negash

Activist, a writer and a doctoral candidate (ABD) in Language, Literacy, and Culture at New Mexico State University (NMSU). Beyan holds a bachelor of arts in English and a master of arts in TESOL from NMSU as well as a bachelor of arts in Anthropology from UCLA. His research interests are on colonial discourse and post-colonial theories and their hegemonic impact on patriarchy, cultural identity, literacy development, language acquisition as well as curriculum & citizenship. The geopolitics of the Horn of Africa interests Beyan greatly. His writings tend to focus on Eritrea and Ethiopia. Beyan has been writing opinion pieces at awate.com since its inception (1 September 2001).

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  • Reclaim Abyssinia

    Selamat,
    New Getem from Addis

    እናት አገር እናት ፍቅር
    ላንቺ ዝና ላንቺ ክብር
    መሞት ነበር ሲያምርሽ ይቅር

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    Does Eritrea have an exit strategy from Tigray conflict?

    As the news media coverage of the war in Tigray is replete with gruesome and graphic depictions of human rights violations, and by in large pointing the finger at Eritrean troops, it seems to distract from the main concern. Before we look at whether Eritrea should have been involved in the scale that is has or what would be the long term ramifications and/or if there really is an exit strategy, let’s consider the futile nature of going after veracity in war-time propaganda.

    Almost all wars are based on lies. The flames are kept burning by lies and the history of it is written through lies. This doesn’t mean that great sufferings have not been inflicted on people and property, but those who execute it at the helm select and project distorted narratives to suit the furtherance of their cause and maintain an upper hand. In fact, control of information is part and parcel of the war machine. For instance, the moral of the fighting force and the support of the civilian population for the war effort is directly influenced by the work of the propaganda wing of the operations. International or outside support is also cultivated through careful calibrations of the media narrative.

    Whoever controls the narrative is more likely to benefit on the actual battle field. Going back to the conflict in Tigray:

    TPLF narrative: it is fighting to defend against a genocidal, ethnic cleansing, large scale human rights violating war against the central government forces.

    Ethiopian Govt. narrative: it is fighting a law and order operation to bring to justice few fugitive ranking members of a disbanded organization.

    Eritrean narrative: it is fighting a pre-emptive war of invading and controlling selected locations to defend from possible attack by retreating TPLF fighters.

    The above being the three main lines of false narratives that are exploited by each party to the conflict, the question is then which [if any] would sell better and thus give its proponent an upper hand?

    Clearly, the TPLF narrative appears to be better aligned to [albeit exaggerated] to apparent events on the ground. True, the war may not be of a genocidal nature but judging by the level of verified destruction of property, casualty and displacement, facts bare up their charges of mass violations of rights and ethnic cleansing.

    The Ethiopian govt. narrative is a hard sell at best. What is happening doesn’t appear like a law enforcement operation by a stretch of imagination. Destroying 70% of health care facilities, and mass civilian displacement, armed casualties and cases of sexual abuses have nothing to do with law enforcement. People would say “well, it is not your lies that bother me, rather the insult to my intelligence!” One can’t argue to ensure law enforcement through a large scale break down in law and order of an area that was lawful and orderly.

    The Eritrean narrative is least evolved and self defeating. The act of incursion or invasion into a sovereign country can potentially trigger UN military/blockade intervention under its Chapter VII – articles [39] [41] [42]. Although, the Ethiopian govt. has not made calls to the UN under those terms [unlikely to do so], nonetheless, as the Eritrean participation is considered to be impeding peaceful outcome and thus creating security risk, such mechanisms could still be taken. Again, since the Eritrean narrative was that the country was not involved [actually still appears to be so], then it doesn’t really have any line of propaganda to set a narrative. This has reduced the Eritrean narrative to be nothing more than challenging the veracity of charges leveled against its armed forces. Such is futile because by definition everyone understands war-propaganda are not exact science.

    So, does Eritrea have an exit strategy? Very unlikely, judging by the way things are going. By accepting that it had opted for invasion/incursion for its own security, Eritrea assumes full responsibility for damages. The Ethiopian PM had recently estimated that the damage in Tigray is so far hoovering around $ 1 billion USD. Would Eritrea be held accountable for repaying part of this? The Ethiopian govt. had made it abundantly clear that it did not invite Eritrea into the country. So, who will assume the costs for the damages? Are Eritreans willing to foot the bill? Or cede some territory for some number of years in lieu of payment? Doesn’t sound great, right?

    Ultimately, the Tigray conflict will be settled on a round table. The problem is for us, Eritrea, because we will not have a seat at the table. Rather, we are likely to end up as a meal on the table.

    • Hashela

      Haile

      Predictably, the narrative of the Eritrean Government consists of having no narrative the diplomatic price of which will be high.

      “.. cede some territory for some number of years in lieu of payment?” is, however, a stretch and seems to be designed to scare people.

      • Abi

        Hashela
        I believe HTG is talking about the fixer upper oceanfront property listed on Craigslist. According to the listing agent, it is available immediately for a long term lease of ninety nine years.

        • Hashela

          Abi

          The fixer upper oceanfront property has a proud owner.
          ቆራጥ ወዳጅ የኤርትራ ህዝብና መንግሥት defeated successive offensives of the TPLF-led Ethiopian army to prevent a humiliating 99-year lease.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            The fixer upper oceanfront property owner has been looking for a reliable renter for a while. At some point this property was used as a camel sanctuary since the only interested party looked at other properties with less waves. Now that the water is calm and the sharks subdued, the property is back on the market.
            This time the vacant property owner will find a reliable partner. Long term lease is on the table.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            as I have reminded you repeatedly, the “new Assab’ for you and your friends in northwestern Ethiopia is the Gondar-Humera-Oma Hajer route!

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I noticed that there are still some sharks need to be domesticated. I think I like dolphins better.
            See you in 25 years.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            see you tomorrow. It is late here

          • said

            Greeting,
            Abi Dolphins are better .I agrre
            the Dolphins in the sea (Eritrea ).
            Kurporchaw ቀበርቾ ,he grow-up in Massawa by the See Massawa and its Christal beach , it is a Red Sea jewel , forget the Riviera ,Côte d’Azur , Palm Beach, Miami But only post IA

            The more things change the more they stay the same. We are living through extraordinary times.,

            Linda Ronstadt – Song the Dolphins in the sea
            Lyrics about growing up, too.
            This old world may never change
            Not the way it’s been
            And all the ways of war
            Can’t change it back again
            I’ve been searching for the dolphins in the sea
            Sometimes I wonder do you ever think of me
            I’m not the one to tell this world
            How to get along
            I only know that peace will come
            When all hate is gone
            Sometimes I think about
            Saturday’s child
            And all about the times
            When we were running wild
            song The Dolphins in the sea, released in 1969 see the link
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIUd8pnnEmE&t=232s

            Eritrea with nostalgia and with yearning for loved one,
            CESARIA EVORA Sodade The song, meaning ‘longing’ For this land of mine,
            Who showed you…
            this distant way?
            Who showed you…
            this distant way?
            This way …
            to Sao Tomé

            Longing, longing,…
            Longing,…
            For this land of mine.
            CESARIA EVORA Sodade .wmv – YouTube
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERYY8GJ-i0I&list=TLPQMjMwMzIwMjE7GLKFlHNHBA&index=2
            ..

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hashela,

            ወዲ ድሙ ዘይገድፍ ሕልሚ ቀደሙ::

            Berhe

      • haileTG

        Selamat Hashela ,

        I would not put aside Tigray as a place with insignificant role in shaping Ethiopia’s political future.

        – It is home to a sizable population of 7 million.
        – It is home to a large segment of Ethiopia’s tourism.
        – unlike Eritrea’s failed Wefri-Warsay-Yikealo, Tigrayan farmers have really succeeded in many environmental campaigns they have conducted. Read their work in micro-climate creation, carbon credit schemes and land management over the last 25 years…they have healed their land greatly.
        – It is well connected by air and land to the rest of the country.
        – It has a special role of political alliance with one of the two largest groups in the country that must have all on board to govern.

        I suspect that the strategy of weakening Tigray and Tigrayans could possibly be the calculation behind looting and destroying their properties. Possibly from the Eritrean regime’s side, as impoverishment is the only tool in its tool-box we’ve ever seen. However, no Ethiopian will ultimately be at peace with what had happened to the Tigrayans through this war and would likely seek compensation. This explains how Eritrea is being set up to accept more than its share of the burden later.

        Don’t rule out the idea of ceding territory, what if Eritrea is handed a bill to the tune of $2 billion? Remember, it is Eritrea that would have no role in the peace table, I doubt PMAA would sacrifice his neck for it.

        • Hashela

          Selam Haile

          I have no doubt that Tigrayan farmers are industrious as their neighbors in the north. Regarding the assessment of Tigrayan achievements I wish you were right, but your bloomy assessment and reporting is strongly contradicted by Getachew Reda’s canid and shocking revelations he made in early 2018.
          You are right, TPLF’s future strength and capital will the export of conflict in all directions for which they don’t need infrastructure.

          • haileTG

            Hey Hashela,

            Seriously? I think a little objectivity would go a long way here. Soil erosion is one of a serious challenges the Tigrayans had to deal with. For example, their achievements in re-greening Abraha watsbaha region, one of many, was so successful that it is being adopted as a national aforestation program model in Ethiopia. Their infrastructure is solid and diverse across all sectors. Let us study the facts objectively first.

          • Hashela

            Haile

            It seems you haven’t read what I wrote

          • haileTG

            Hashela

            Perhaps. Time will tell.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Haile-TG,

          Hailat, only rationale mind that is not contaminated with “hate” can see your argument and give a nodding reaction on your speaking the truth. The contaminated minds will react in a negative way attributing your comment as a propaganda to resuscitate TPLF. When the dusts of the war are settled, the people of Tigray, however they decide their fate (either staying with the union or secede), they will come united and energetic to rebuild their “modern state” and its economy, in a short period of time than the time it took them to build modern Tigray in the previous decades. Meles has shown them the way. His blue prints will still be used to rebuild their state. He transformed the liberation army by creating educated professionals with BAs, MAs, PhDs. He created a broad educated class in the society to transform the state economy, science, and Technology. We saw small towns growing to cities and villages to towns, being connected by a network of modern roads, the growth of universities and collages, the growth of hospitals in cities and towns, the growth of industries and manufacturing companies. All these changes are from ground zero in 25 years. Compare their development with ours in Eritrea. We lost what we had and they grow from zero. A big contrast.

          Regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Deleted as duplicate.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            መልካም ፋሲካ ይሁንልዎ ጌታው::
            If the people of Tigray opted to leave the union, nobody should stand on their way. They are free to leave anytime.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,
            መልካም ፋሲካ to you and your family. Do you think the Tigray people and the Amara people could live together in the union, after all what is happening to the people of Tigray? I don’t see a common future for these two social groups, after I saw the killing and throwing them by the cliff to the innocent unarmed young Tigrians – a typical nature of ethnic cleansing.

            Regard

    • Abi

      ኃይላችን
      In case you have been taking the longest nap and missed some important information, all the lies propaganda fabricated by the Tplf and its support groups have been debunked one after the other.

      There should be no round table with Tplf sitting on a chair. Last time I checked Tplf was on the table as a menu and it was swiftly eaten and cleared off the table.

      Ethiopians are forever grateful for the timely, decisive and generous help forwarded by the የቁርጥ ቀን ቆራጥ ወዳጅ የኤርትራ ህዝብና መንግሥት::
      ይቐንየለይ ደቂ ኤሪ !!!!!!!

      • haileTG

        Guad Abi,

        May be you can provide us with one TPLF lies and propaganda that has been successfully debunked. Did you follow the link provided? It appears that the debunking is happening in the opposite direction. Even FB had to flag some Ethiopian narrative as “false information”. What is your best offer for a plot of an ocean facing property? Only serious offers are considered.

        • Abi

          ኃይልሻ
          Happy Easter Sunday
          You know it is a buyers market. To make things worse, there is only one interested buyer who has several options in the same neighborhood that provide better amenities. On top of that, these properties are “move -in ready” conditions. A dilapidated and vacant fixer upper under a foreclosure proceeding doesn’t fetch that much Nakfa under the current market conditions.
          Ok, enough for my zibazinke!

          The Axum debacle has been sufficiently debunked. Even Berhe figured this one out. No amount of evidence is enough to convince you otherwise. Let us leave it right there.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Berhe figure that out a while ago, that’s why he called the PM a name.

            Because knowing what he knew, his government made Eritrea a scapegoat.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Happy Easter for you and family
            Just read the link you generously provided us yesterday. If you failed to understand the basic points, I’m always at your disposal to help.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Eritrea a scapegoat? No Berhe ሓወይ! Since it is የፈረንጆች ፋሲካ , I rather say Eritrea is a sacrificial lamb :).
            I’m just kidding.

          • haileTG

            Happy Easter to you and yours too Abi!

            …potential my friend, potential! This property is tranquil and secluded, lots of privacy – ideal place for emerging dictator to stock up on ammo 🙂

            Didn’t the Axum story just been validated by EHRC? Even the Boston priest story was debunked in his favor. No?

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            I’m so disappointed by your incomplete response. I was expecting you to say LOCATION! LOCATION!! LOCATION!!!
            Don’t forget seller pay all applicable closing cost fees.

            The straight forward answer is NO!!
            The news was proven fake including the English speaking fake priest from Boston. Berhe has a very nice link regarding this. Of course, Berhe didn’t understand what the link was about. Typical Berhe!

          • haileTG

            Haha… ante sewye tew!

    • Haile S.

      Selam MoKsi,

      ኣርዱን ነው ያልነው በውል ኣልጋበዝንም
      የ21ኛ ክፍለ-ዘመን የውጫሌው ዳግም

      • haileTG

        Hey Moksi,

        Guad Abi will say – Erdugne enji Eredugne alalkum… ahun oceanfront property situgne wey domo tayutalachu…

        • Haile S.

          ሞክሼ

          እርስዎ በቀለምዎ እንዳሉት በጀኖሳይድ የታረደ ስሌሌለ
          ጀታው ኣይመስለኝም እንኳልስ ያልሆነ የሚል ያልተባለ

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Halie S. & HaileTG,

      Many thanks for clearly enumerating the three narratives. They make absolute sense. Navigating through the web of disinformation campaigns during a war is particularly discombobulating. Reading the link you shared was an eye opener in that the extent to which disinformation campaign from both Tigrayan and Ethiopian side had been ratchet up. Never mind that such ratcheting up of disinformation continues to cause the deaths of innocent civilian lives who end up becoming the pawn of the war machinations concocted by individual leaders who have sinister motives and worse, to merely say gotcha!

      When an authoritarian is motivated by the latter there cannot exist an exit strategy. The objective is to annihilate the enemy at any cost if civilians end up exterminated in the process, then be it. The gotcha is the entry point and the exit point simultaneously. He cannot have an exit strategy because wars initiated to get to the gotcha moment have no principles that one can follow them through. They are merely tools of the trade of a dictator.

      Maybe now is the time for the confederation issues that the man had said publicly during his visit in Ethiopia back in 1993 to go for full throttle with. Dina Mufti’s comments could as well have been a litmus test to see whether it will cause some raucous noise from the majority, which could end up not only derailing his plans but could as well be a risk for an assassination from within his own circles. One could dismiss it as idealistic notions of a man who was emboldened by the miraculous achievement of a revolutionary war that led to an independent nation. I mean as soon as the referendum was done back in 1993 is when he said economic and political integration are part and parcel of his MO. In the link I share below, at a 21- minute mark we hear Nsu’s plans. 28 years later the time may just have come now, at least in the man’s mind. In his mind – there is no way of knowing this – but he may have thought TPLF was the hindrance to his confederation aspirations.

      Now that TPLF as we knew it is no longer an existential threat to the man, it’s time to do just that starting with military and economic integration and the political one could be held back until the emotional sentiments subside.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthKX-ymawE&t=1258s

      • haileTG

        Wow wow! Thank you Bayan for the link! Thank God we can start to relax now:)Alewuna alewana indeed! A young man in his 20s with such incredible clarity and articulation, we are blessed. Viva Dani wedi memhir…Keep it up!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat,

          A bright and a hopeful kid, if we keep our country. A lesson for good ears. I wish Semere Tesfay, Hashela, and Haile-S to have a say on him.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            ነገር ድልይልይ በትሪ ሃሰውሰው!
            ይትረፍ classification of Eritrean kingdom

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Nothing bad about it. It is only a call for the active great debaters to have a say on the clip. Don’t be sensitive, Hailat.

            Regard

          • Haile S.

            Emma,

            I am not sensitive. I am observant!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            There is no “ነገር” and there is no “በትሪ” in my comment. Wrong observation. It is a direct call from both sides of our politics. Semere from the government side, you and Hashela from the opposers side of the regime to have a say on the clip.

            Regard

          • Haile S.

            Okay Emma,

            Lets meet on another subject. Merci!

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            I know that you have trouble reconciling my uncompromising position when it comes to Eritrea’s sovereignty and territorial integrity which is under threat by two organizations: IA-led PFDJ and TPLF.
            In your black and white world view, one has to be pro TPLF in order be classified as a true opposition. Let me be clear. The oppositions who work day and night for the interest of TPLF equally pose a threat to Eritrea as the multi-decade old and continuous effort of IA to confederate Eritrea with Ethiopia. At least, IA makes no secret about his intention.
            Dear Amanuel, you can not be for Eritrea’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and the same time advocate for an organization whose single goal is the destruction of Eritrea as a sovereign nation.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            Instead commenting on the clip I invited you to comment, you started to recite and regurgitate the same argument. I will not indulge myself to engage in a recycled argument and I will not try to reconcile your ambivalence. It is your problem to address your ambivalence to have a principle. You can’t argue the regime’s argument and at the same time to be against the regime. Just to tell you the fact.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hashela, Haile S. And Aman

            I watched the video Aman and Beyan are talking about yesterday before I saw the comments at awate. I was planning to share it but I saw Beyan already did.

            I think Amanuel said on many occasions that IA is leading us towards, confederation or some sort of union with Ethiopia based on many examples that we have, specially the writing of Prof. Medhanie.

            Based on your response, I can send that you two have not watched the video, but it seems to support the theory confederation but delivered in convincing and factual ways.

            I would say, it does not hurt to watch and if you feel like comment on it.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            Leaving aside ኣቃናጥዋ ድሙ (the interminable escalation of reactions), let me tell you that I watched the vedeo. I agree with wedi memhir on what he said about the confederation and on his psychoanalysis (although I am not fun). While we are at psychanalytic couch, note also that, it was not by denial that I refrained from reacting on the subject because I saw the video as soon as Beyan’s comment appeared.

            If IA talked about confederation since decades, he must have planned it as the ultimate goal. If he planned it, he must have judged it the best option either by his own choice (want) or by doability (no other choice) or a combination of both. Based on his dictatorial behaviour and his incapacity to convince by reason he elliminated many on his way, except those whom he convinced and are staying with him. As wedi-memhir said, a voluntary confederation can only be conducted by the people through their representatives. This should be the dissuading factor for a leader who wakes up from his go-it-alone moves. Is IA such kind of leader? We will see soon. The 30th anniversary appears symbolic. We will either in the coming together of Eritrean forces for change waking up the conscience of the dictator and/or the confederation in progress with some symbolic measures.

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam Haile S.
            I am really confused?!. What do you mean by waking up the conscience of the dictator? Are you a propenent of confederation?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Woldegabriel,

            No. Waking up his conscience not to advance with his idea of confederation. I am talking about two symbolic things emerging at the 30th anniverssary. 1) The coming together of Eritreans to stop him and at least an embyo of GiE. 2) The dictator advancing with his idea of confederation. Since both could happen, I used and/or thus the confusion. Sorry.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile S.

            Sorry in the delay in responding. There no ኣቃናጥዋ ድሙ on my side, but wanted to see your thoughts and I am glad that ዝቀንጠኩኻ if it made you to respond.

            I have mentioned this before but I listened the long interview of Ahmed Keysi. Based on what he said, it seems to defeat most of the theory that I had about IA and what his long intentions were are have changed. For example.

            1) He said he is no super man and a lot of people give him all the credit, if has some sort of magic to plan all the things that went on from a long time. In other words, he was just going along and he didn’t know or plan his path for all these years. For the most part, what transpired is ideas that he go from others and he just took them or own them. For example, replacing / changing from front to democracy (PFDJ) and the veteran to be replaced by new young people was NOT IA idea. It was in fact Al Keysi idea that he run with it and selected his own people. Jabir activly promoted the idea and it tood it’s own life. It was suggested for good intention but he took advantage.

            2) For example if you google “President Isaias Afwerki historic speech referendum April 1993”. Two question were asked:

            i) He was asked what as a citizen feels about the vote for referendum?
            ii) He was asked what the outcome of referendum will be?

            I will let you listen to his answer but to me, his response (unless that he is superman who was saying something but doing something else) but confirms to what Al Kaysi has said. And his response was like any other Eritrean wish and desire and he understood the hearts and minds of the people.

            So the talk that he has planned about confederation etc..it may have crossed his mind but I don’t think (at least I am not convinced anymore) that, it was his ultimate objective.

            Wige Hid Hid
            In this particular case, if you listen to story that was told by most former ELF members, it is told as if Isayas and TPLF conspired to destroy ELF. But what I learned from the interview of Al Keysi is, it’s the ELF who declared war on those organization PLF 1 and PLF 2, which speed up the their union to create EPLF. In fact he says, if it wasn’t for ELF, EPLF could never have been formed.

            We are where we are today and I think anything is possible.

            1) But question is, what would stop IA from forming his own yes man parliament (like Abiy style, in fact a lot more controlled) and pass any resolution that he wants to pass to give it legitimacy if that’s what is needed?

            2) We think we know what the outcome of this war is going to be as far as IA / PFDJ are concerned. Such as Eritrea has no exit strategy and IA future is doomed. This I think is to undermine the survival capability of the man (again listen to the interview) and I don’t think he will have much challenge to survive this as well.

            As far as the west and their capability to force change, so far their record in the last 20 plus years has been a disaster (in all their intervention, they do not have any success to brag on or model to copy and apply). It’s disaster after disaster, which they made the situation worst than it was before (Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen (with their sponsors) and I don’t think they can come up with any magic formula that can work as well for the region.

            So I think it’s all talk and we should not really bank much on it. With or without their support the GiE should organize and put the pressure against the regime.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            I think you brought well thought summary from what you heard and read. Thank you. I have little patience for long and multi-episoded interviews. Though I started, I haven’t heard all Al-Qeysi’s interviews.

            What I take from what you said is that we are overdiagnosing Isayas and his regime. First it was ELF’s fault, then TPLF’s fault, now Abiy’s fault and so and so on inbetween. In a case of overdiagnosis, it is the doctors’s fault. Period!

            IA’s ጭርጭር ዓበደ is running for so long because everybody is hiding behind multidiagnistic reasonings or suffering from nacrolepsy. Time to wake up think Eritrea and come together dropping all the very noisy long stringed wedding cans that are attached to our tails. Time to prevent IA from creating a simulacrum of assembly that doesn’t represent all the people of the country.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile S.

            Yes. Let’s get on with it. Wedi memhir with his well presented video, he his final advice is “lets do nothing or avoid doing the wrong thing”.

            In the past I have pressed Mahmuday and what the role of the secret party played and what he thought about the Wugi Hid hid. He told me, he doesn’t know much as he was not insider but people like Keysi/DuruE had played a big role. Even in this case, the secret party was not his idea or not his making. Others intellectuals were who come up with and he took advantage of it.

            As to the interview, I think it’s worth your time and is not boring. In fact he is quite a story teller. We are always amazed or sometimes we debate if PFDJ was the continuation of EPLF or how they let him have so much power in the struggle and nothing has changed and all were at his service.

            On the video I mentioned “President Isaias Afwerki historic speech referendum April 1993” it is a short video 4 minutes. I can’t post the link but search it. It basically defeats the theory we have about IA and his commitment towards Eritrea in relation to the video of “wedi memhir” and others, who are claiming he never had any commitment or desire towards Eritrea.

            Berhe

        • Bayan Negash

          Indeed, it a wowing piece. I am fond of the Tigrinya song hiyesa he does – you can see the absolute talent. On the political frontier, however, he has a lot to learn. But, the totality of his capacity to articulate his thought with clarity is way up-there. By the way, I am guessing about his based on the look of him.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Bayan,

            I would love to see his work in music too. One thing that struck me when listening to his presentation was how he managed his argument. Our political discourse is is sadly undermined by redundancies, emotionality and lack of articulation. Our youth have been particularly impacted due to the protracted HGDEism that is mindless and diabolical. It was great and refreshing to see the young man present his arguments while keeping his person firmly out of the conversation. Did you notice that he did not use self referential statement throughout the entire presentation? It id definitely a fresh approach. Godspeed to him.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Beyan,

        Confederation by leaders without the blessing of the people does not have a leg to move the nations in a synchronized discourse, not at the beginning of the 90s nor at this chaotic war time. It is only rhetorical political consumption for the naïveté on one side, and a talking point for the purpose of diversion to the conversation of the opposition on what must be done, on the fate of our nation and its people, on the other. I am amazed how easily the conversation of the opposition is diverted at any stage of our move to do something. How one could think about confederation when states “at issue” have instabilities and ethnic strives within their own states? How could we entertain about confederation when states are at war with each other? I wish Saleh could have established my recent article to focus on our issue – the despot and the plight of our people.

        Regards

        • Bayan Negash

          Well said, Haw Amanuel. I’m going to search for your article and read it before I try to my next one. Hope the AT considers your suggestion about reposting your piece.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat HaileTG,

      “Ultimately, the Tigray conflict will be settled on a round table.”

      I hope you are right, but I strongly doubt that. The Tigray conflict will end when one side is convincingly defeated on the battle front. Neither Isaias nor Abiy are the talking kind, especially now with no clear “exit strategy” as you put it.

      TPLF, to its credit,
      1. Agreed, and in some parts initiated, to end the Eritrean conflict peacefully just before Abiy came to power.

      2. For the three years Abiy has been in power, TPLF publicly and repeatedly called for national dialog with all steak holders in which Abiy’s party refused.

      On another note:
      The level of anger and disappointment most Tigrayans have at the moment does not leave room to entertain “future Ethiopian politics.” If those I talked to and those on social medias are any representative, it is a dead issue.

      Based on our experience in the last 150 years, it has been proven that we are incapable of coming up with political strategy to fundamentally unite all Ethiopians under common cause. Mind you, this is a collective failure and not necessarily blaming any one party or individuals.

      Under Haile Selassie, and to some extent Mengistu, there was some resemblance of harmony by silencing a good portion of Ethiopian citizens but nowhere near where it needed to be if concrete unity was to be achieved.

      Regarding Eritrea, TPLFites are very well aware of whatever Isaias’ army is doing now in Tigray, it is Isaias and a few of his cohorts who are responsible, and I can assure you that it will not leave a lasting enmity between the two peoples.

      • Abi

        Fantastic
        Is it too early to wish you a happy የፈረንጅ Easter ? Or do I have to wait until you close the door behind you?

        Fantiness, don’t lose hope. Once the warriors from every side subdued, things will get better.

      • haileTG

        Happy Easter Sunday Fanti!

        I genuinely hope your last paragraph would prevail! In terms of the possible conclusion of the war in the battle field, hmm yikdenena! I wouldn’t doubt that is their wish but Mariam Axum Tsion’n, Mariam Asmereytn aytgedfenan eya:)

        On a serious side though, the US/ G7 proposal of reconciliation and inclusive political process, with carrots and sticks may change this gloomy outcomes they’ve left us with.

      • Tzigereda

        Dear Fanti,
        You are always in my mind. I hope the nightmare ቀልጢፉ ከብቅዕ!

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Kibrti Tzigereda,

          Your ‘hello’ alone reduced the agony a great deal! Imagine what can happen ቡን ምስወረደ፤

        • Saleh Johar

          Tzigereda,
          Weylkeyekhe! You were waiting for Fanti to open the door for you? Fanti, I wanted to open the door, you cheated by waking up earlier. Welcome back.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Memhir,

            ኣነዉን’የ ሰንቢደ፤ It makes it extra special because I happen to have the highest of regards for her.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            Every time I remember Tzigereda’s article, I visualize you doing what she beautifully described in her article.
            በጭለማ የሚራመዱ ቀጫጭን እጆች!!
            Who doesn’t have the utmost respect and love for ጽጌረዳ??

          • Tzigereda

            Hey Abi,
            Lol. ሰሙና ወርቁ ተጫወትክበት:)

            “ዱቄት ከሌለ ዳቦ የለም” እያለ ነው ነብዩ?

          • Abi

            ጽጌረዳ
            “ሥምን መላእክት ያወጡታል”

            መስከረም ሲጠባ አደይ ሲፈነዳ
            ከአበቦቹ መሃል ወጣች ጽጌረዳ
            ደማቅ ፈገግታዋን ፀዳሏን ተላብሳ
            ከሆዴ ዘለቀች ሆና እንዳትረሳ
            https://youtu.be/hM8yWBuaspU

          • Tzigereda

            Thank you Saleh Gadi,
            Fanti እኳ Fanti እዩ.

          • Saleh Johar

            Okay Tzegereda, Fanti is repeating a mantra to ward off two different forces: one side screaming “we are working to save you” and the other is saying “we are going to cleanse you”. His mantra? “Don’t save us we are alive, don’t cleanse us we are clean,” he repeats that a 100 times times three—after breakfast, after lunch and after dinner!

        • Haile S.

          Selam Tsigereda,

          Good to see you Tsigereda! What a surprise!
          And what a coincidence! At the moment I saw your post, I was searching a tigrigna movie for the family and I came across one entitled ቀመም ህይወት that was shot at Colegio Lasalle. The brick works is deteriorating into dust, but fortunately the bougainvillea are blooming and partially concealing the damage.

          • Tzigereda

            Selam wedi gezawtey!
            Thank you! ንእገረ መንገደይ እየ ኣላጊሰ ናይ ታህዋኽ::

          • Haile S.

            ጽገረዳ፡

            በሊ ካብ ተቐልቀልኪ ኣይተጸምውና
            ዓወተ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ደብረ-ቢዘን መሲላ’ላ ደብረ ብሕትና

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Fanti,

        The Tigray people will come out strong and more United from this difficult time. Stay strong and hopeful, the Tigray people will prevail.

    • Tzigereda

      Dear HaileTG,
      Belated welcome back!

      • haileTG

        Selamat Kibirti Hafti! Abay seb, niski’wn aytitfi’Ena:-)

  • haileTG

    Hi Awatista,

    መሬት እንተ ትግልበጠልና
    ኩዕንቲ ምጸገብና!
    ህግደፋዊ ፍልስፍና
    ናይዞም ሃርጋፍ ሕልና
    ኣብ ሎሚ በጺሖም ክዋራዘዩልና!!!
    “መሰለይዩ ክዛረብ ክምልስ”
    “ኣይድግፍ ኣይቃወም ከይትሑዙኒ ሕጂስ”
    ጸባ ዝለመደ ሃመማስ
    ኣብ መዓር ኣትዩ ሞተ ብላሽ!!!

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ሞኽሲ፡

      ሃመማ፡ ነታ ጸባ’ኽ ብኸመይ ለመድዋ
      እንተ በዝሑ ተፈይቶ ኣልባ ዶ’ይተባህለን ነይከፍትዋ

      • haileTG

        Merhaba moKsi,

        Halalat reKibom wedey…defirom ab Natom bexihom….

        • Haile S.

          MoKsi,

          Happy Pesach! BTW

          • haileTG

            The same to you and yours dear brother. Passover to liberation for Eritrea too!

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላማት haileTG

      ሓንጎሉ ዘረከበ ብድሌቱ
      ብ ኣቺዶ ዝሓጸበ ሓሞቱ
      ኣይ ምስ ህልዋት
      ኣይ ምስ ዝሞቱ

      እዝኑ ናሰመዐ
      ዓይኑ ናረኣየ

      ንቶኽላ ዓዲ-ሃሎ
      ኣረኪቡ ሂወቱ
      ዕያል ማዕያል
      ብምልእታ ቤቱ
      ተዘሚቱ
      ድሕሪ ሞት ዓቢ ዓርጌን
      ክፍትን ‘ዩ ቀዲሙካ ክኣቱ

      ደላዪ ፍትሒ ኔረ
      ክብለካ ‘ዩ ከይሓፈረ
      ብውሽጡ ናተሽቚረረ

      ካብ ሰብ ላንጋ-ላንጋ የድሕነና

      • haileTG

        Hello MM,

        ኣነስ ምበልኩዎም…

        እንታይ ሸገረኩም
        ኣይድግፍ ኣይቃወም
        ሰንፈላል’የ ካብ በልኩም
        ሱቅ ምስ ክዳኑ ምሓሸኩም

        ኣይድግፍ ኣይቃወም ብሱሩ
        ዋላ ሓወይ እንተተኣሲሩ
        ኩሉ ተሰዲዱ ሃገር ቆሪሩ
        ሕጊ በሪሱ ቁዋም ሓሪሩ
        ኣይድግፍ ኣይቃወምዩ ነገሩ

        ንኹናት ስግረ ዶብ ሃኒኑ
        ዕሸላት ብዓረር ክርሸኑ
        ዓዲ ጎረቤት ክባራዕ ክዓኑ
        ንወለዶ ዝተርፍ ጽልኢ ኸዚኑ
        ኣይድግፍ ኣይቃወም ንሱ’ለዎ በይኑ

        ሰንፈላል ኣንታ ምዕንጅሉ
        ክትውርዝይ በካይዳ ተዃሉ
        ፍሉይ ቅዲ ያኢ ተረኺቡሉ
        ጽግዕግዕ ምስኩሉ
        ሞት ሕጹይ ክኾነካ እንዳሉ
        ሰንፈላል እኮ ነዚዩ ተባሂሉ

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          ሰላማት haileTG

          ኣፍካ ምሓዝ ናይ ለባማት
          ኣፍ ላንጋ-ላንጋ ናይ ስሉባት
          ሕልናኦም ሸይጦም ጽግዕ-ጽግዕ
          ምስ ሰብ-ግዜ ዝኾኑ ሓያላት
          መትከል ዘይብሎም
          ከምዚ ‘ዮም ንብለካ ሃይላት!

          ንጸበዮም መልሓሶም ክዓጽፉ
          ንነብሶምን ሰቦምን ዘጸየፉ
          ሕማቕ ታሪኽ ገዲፎም ክሓልፉ

          ጥራይ ግዝያዊ መንግስቲ ይተኸል
          ናህሪ ወሲኹ ይምሰል ትማዕበል
          ግዜኡ ኣኺሉ ክዕምብብ
          ናይ ሰብ መትከል
          እወ
          ናይ ሰብ መትከል!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ክንደይ ፍልጠትን-ጥበብን ይባኽን
    ብሰንኪ ናይ ሃገርና ኢድ ኣሚን
    ጸሓፍቲ-ታሪኽ ክጽሕፉ ምስጀመሩ
    ከጸገም’ዩ ክትኣምን

    ብሓደ በዓል ስንኩፍ-ርእሲ
    ሃገር ብምልእታ ጌሩ ናቱ ርስቲ
    ንምሁራትን ሃፋትምን ከብኪ

    ሓምሳ ዓመታት ሓሊፉ
    ክንደይ ተስፋ ዝነበሮም
    ዕሸላት ዕድሎም ኮሊፉ
    ሓልዮት ሃገር ኣወንዚፉ
    ንፈተውቱን ጸላእቱን
    ደቂ ሃገር ዘሊፉ

    ሕጂ ድማ
    ነቲ ዝተረፈ ከዕኑ
    እሙናት ደቂ ሽዋ ኣሰሊፉ
    ክብሪ ልኡላውነት ሃገርና
    ከረክባ ንናይ ቀደም ወረርቲ
    የሕሊፉ

    ‘ንዳ ንሕና-ንሱ
    መዓስ ኮን ‘ኹም ትልብሙ
    ስጋብ ጃኬቱ ኣውጺኡ
    ባንዴራ ባህርዳር
    ዘሪአኩም ናይ ውሽጢ ልብሱ
    ዋላ መተርኣሱ?

    ግደፉ
    ኣስተውዕሉ
    ከይትሓፍሩ ከይትፎኽሱ
    ንዓኻትኩምን ንዓናን ከይጥፈአ
    መዓስ ደቂሱ
    ዘይተፈንጀረት ቡምባኖ ‘ኳ’ዩ ኮሊሱ
    ልቡን ቀልቡን
    ኢትዮጵያ ሃገረይ ምስበለ
    መዓስ ተመሊሱ

    ኣይፋል
    ንሱስ ሸለው ይበል
    ልቢ ዘለኩም
    ገሌኹም
    ንዑ ተመለሱ
    ተጣዓሱ

  • Aman Y.

    Selam all,
    Getachew Reda on Aljezera, “independent state is the best viable option for Tigray at the moment”

  • Brhan

    Selamat Awate

    Abiy Ahmed finally came clean about Eritrean troops. What next?

    After months of denial, Ethiopian PM has acknowledged Eritrean forces’ presence in Tigray. Now, added to the mystery why he did not admit this earlier, is further uncertainty about effect of withdrawal promise.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/2/abiy-ahmed-finally-came-clean-about-eritrean-troops-what-next

    • haileTG

      Oh Brhan,
      I thought he did a “tell-all” on a talk show or something!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Brhan,

      Martin Plaut had said: “ “They are linked at the hip now”- like kinana and minana a tale from our traditional folklores. Imagine, the scenario in a situation, when one of them is killed. Just imagine!

      Regards

      • Brhan

        Merhaba Ustaz Amanuel
        Today a significant number of international media have covered Tigray, Eritrean troops, Ethiopin soldier’s attrocities in detalil. Tough assignment for Dina Mufti! Mufti of lies!
        https://www.bbc.com/tigrinya/news-56613266

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Merhaba Brhan,

          All their lies are now exposed everyone to see it. Now it is up to the international community to take a swift action to stop the mass killing of civilians.

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UgVEp4bUFbA

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Awatista,

    It has been an interesting couple of days of circus regarding what Dina Mufti said or didn’t say or should’ve said. As usual, when such things happen, the opposition is more collected, deliberate and rational (save few extremists). The PFDJista are a spectacle! For them, these type of days are occasioned with great commotion, some take to extreme reactions, some jump the ship, some pull their hairs out and roll on the ground with anguish. I would like to look at why they are commenting and acting the way they are doing.

    Analogy in order:) When a married couple fall out and decide to divorce (one of them move out), often the spark is a mundane issue: one said something to the kids, one came late, one said something hurtful … (leave the serious sparks as it doesn’t apply here). However, the mundane reason only sparked a deep and festering problem that was being overlook for a while. The mundane issue only served to bring it up to boil over.

    Back to Mr. Mufti – the PFDJ supporters were becoming increasingly bewildered by the things that started to become apparent in the way the Eritrean regime is treated by the PMAA side. Eritrea was exposed as taking part in the Tigray conflict uninvited, that it was reported to the world as having potentially committing war crimes, that supporters had to swallow the pill to dance draped in Ethiopian flag (one we paid tens of thousands to dislodge from Eritrea), even at the organization of the demonstrations, they were hijacked to mostly serve Ethiopian interests and and Ethiopians did NOTHING to call in the interest of Eritrea, and as the icing in the cake, Eritrea Hagerachin, Dr. Abiy Meriachin – shame that knows no bound!

    So, the supporters were quietly being toasted by their blue-eyed boy down south and were heating up from inside to the point of ready to explode. Dina Mufti lit the spark by treating them in a most degrading manner (I say this because he only spoke under the terms of his friendship with Isu and his supporters, as far as opposition Eritreans are concerned, we are watching all his and his government’s shenanigans from a distance and ALL AGREEMENTS ARE NULL AND VOID – take it to the bank). The PFDJista exploded, started signing letters of resignation, heaping sudden appreciation of the opposition (laced with their divisive poison). This explains what all the commotion is about, they are opposing their leader on what they perceive as a deal cutting them the short end of the stick. Well, aybelnan’do, aybelnan’do. If this was the early days of their honeymoon, they would have fallen over each other to tell us how Dina mamush was only pointing to some grand, in-depth, complex diplomatic nicety that attests to their leader’s incredible diplomatic summersaults. But, times are bad, PMAA didn’t perform as expected – it is the economy stupid.

    • Hashela

      Selam Haile

      An entertaining sum up of the tumultuous days.
      Even though they are endowed with a high level of elasticity (reversible deformation), IA supporters are currently put under a larger strain and seem to gradually approach the rupturing point. Noticing the eminent rupture and the ensuing structural damage, the regime will most like send some of his skilled fixers and attempt to kit the fissures, a temporary fix that hardly will survive the upcoming thermal contraction and expansion associated with the hot and cold seasons.

    • Abi

      ኃይልዬ
      ምነው ያለወትሮህ ደከምክብኝ ?
      I’ve got something to tell you
      I’ve got something to say
      When the going gets tough, the tough gets going

      https://youtu.be/-n3sUWR4FV4

      • haileTG

        Guad Abi,
        Its meant to be accessible to all the PFDJista wondering where to go now. I am writing therapeutically. Help them to admit all the anger and hurt they carry around. Dina Mufti was the symptom not the cause of their total falling apart. You need to understand how convoluted their delusion is, Asa meblat be’bilhat!

        • Hashela

          Haile

          With the perceived death of TPLF and the substantially diminished threat to the nation’s existence, it is inevitable that the PFDJ supporters will question IA’ s silence and his tacit approval of the verbal transgressions by high ranking officials of the Ethiopian Government

          • haileTG

            Hey Hashela,

            The word is that the situation in Tigray has morphed into an entrenched resistance that enjoys popular support due to atrocity. So, not sure if we can write them off yet. PFDJista mediated challenge to IA is neither useful nor morally just. IA will be challenged and not coddled for the atrocity he inflicted on the Eritrean people. We just need the PFDJista to take care of their mental health issue so we don’t get overwhelmed by adding to the PTSD crisis that will unfold in Eritrea post IA. Politically, they are least evolved and unlikely to catch up.

          • Hashela

            Haile

            I wrote “perceived” death which is different than a medically confirmed death,

          • haileTG

            Hashela,
            So, perceived death, causing perceived substantial reduction in threat, leading to perceived inevitable challenge to IA. OK, let me say perceived entrenched resistance, perceived inherent inability of PFDJista to challenge IA due to perceived moral complicity, which would render them to be perceived as no starters for our struggle.

          • Hashela

            Haile

            I decline your kind invitation to ሓሸውየ።

            Here is what I consider as more relevant.

            I don’t share the notion that TPLF is dead. It is substantially weakened. The temporal weakness of this ethno-fascistic organization gives Eritreans a unique opportunity to focus on the internal issues that can only be solved with the involvement of all people, including PFDJ people inside and outside the country and the army.

          • haileTG

            Hashela,

            Agreed, but under free and secure environment where the threat and violence of PFDJ is neutralized.

          • Hashela

            Haile

            I agree, neutralization by conviction not by violence. Not that they don’t deserve it but to get out of vicious cycle of violence.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Spot on, on your assessment as to what might be the status of PFDJites on the rebirth of our nation.

        • Abi

          ኃይላችን
          The ideas in this site are becoming more and more one sided. We need more PFDJistas to make the ongoing debates balanced and interesting. Soon, we all start our comments by “ I totally agree with you “ phrase.

          I seriously doubt that your therapeutic letter to the PFDJists is working. They are pretty comfy wrapped in the therapeutic እምዬ ምኒልክ ሰሰንደቅ ዓላማ looking forward to live in peace and friendship with all the neighboring countries including Ethiopia.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            With the advent of መኾስተር era whose establishment coincided with the re-emergence of the prince, this otherwise vibrant forum is becoming a cheering place for the defunct TPLF and a mono culture of a singular idea that is not clearly formulated yet.
            One hope that the king has still the will and the power to change the direction before his kingdom becomes a desert

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I don’t think the problem is only the King. Do not underestimate the power of the trigger happy ዋርድያ on duty who guard the Royal Court who has been busy Nitriccizing ….
            As you put it precisely, it is going to be excruciatingly painful to see a forest turning into a desert with only slow growing and extremely thorny cactus plants.
            I totally agree with you …

  • said

    Greetings,

    BBC News reporting today.
    (Evidence suggests Ethiopian military carried out massacre in Tigray
    An investigation by BBC Africa Eye has uncovered evidence that a massacre in northern Ethiopia was carried out by members of the Ethiopian military. It also reveals the precise location of the atrocity, in which at least 15 men were killed. The BBC has confirmed that the massacre took place close to the town of Mahbere Dego in Ethiopia’s northern Tigray region.)

    Ethiopia radiates war ,violence and mass killing. War is not just endured and ubiquitously present in Ethiopia it is glorified in its culture and ignored in its history. Ethiopia has blood on its hands in Tigray , regime callousness and collapse of moral conscience and culture of cruelty is evident . Ethiopia has a culture soaked in barbarism, blood, and war is its calling card.
    War Ethiopia in has become routine, and expected as a new normal, and it is addicted to war and masse killing . Imbued with a penchant for glory and war . War dominates Ethiopia society and sick mainstream media and drum up hate and hostility toward Tigray innocent people , And dehumanization continuous remains. where dehumanization leads: to war and distraction ,and may be a regret.
    Abiy had no observations worth remembering about history of war. the only one things that he was supposed to know more about than most. He had zero intellectual curiosity. And with no moral authority and no compassion. One thing is certain about Abiy : He’s double face and he is as charming a man as you could ever hope to meet. He the center of attention. He is very affable. he is new celebrities in the Ethiopian public’s eyes. Respond or initiating war in Tigray would certainly distract the masses and keep them from realizing the true enemy within Ethiopia . Whatever the truth in these matters. Fact are coming out .
    if you are men of fighting age in Tigray you are a target —that was enough to you get killed. Killing their own civilians is norm , this won’t help us understand these realities ,about militarism and war. Ethiopia militarism that permeate every aspect of society and shaped by it and completely indifferent to the value of human life of Tigrayan citizen . in which human suffering, human misery ,do not count match.

    • Reclaim Abyssinia

      Dear Said and all,
      “War Ethiopia in has become routine, and expected as a new normal, and it is addicted to war and masse killing . Imbued with a penchant for glory and war .”

      If Ethiopia is addicted to war. Do you think they are inviting Egypt for a war? Since it’s the new trend and inspired by the ‘Archaic war of Abyssinia’, looks like lots of people are inspired and they are saying bring it on Egypt!! Sudan accepted the invite, Egypt is considering it, Kenya will be next. ሱዳን ተለኪማ::

      Even if the USA want to involve, it is going to be fun. I think the glory will be if Ethiopia have to face the USA at a tiny small scale …
      If war is addictive then .. new proverb … The fun in life war is not about destiny Victory it’s on the journey, enjoy the ride war. U+1F914

      So what is that Abiy saying to Egypt? Pay up Egypt! 🤑for every drop of water or else? I think IA & Abiy might have a plan. What could that possibly be? 🤔💭😇
      Cheers,
      Reclaim

      • said

        Greetings
        Reclaim Abyssinia.

        This is Easter weekend. The central event celebrated in the Christian world is found in the story of a God . who sends his only begotten son to be crucified in order to redeem his flawed creation?

        Behold! The angels said: ‘O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him. His name will be Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and in (the company of) those nearest to God.'” revealed text. The quote is from verse 45 of chapter 3 in the Quran. Also Quran state .Jesus was strengthened with the “Holy Spirit” (Quran 2:87) and is a “sign for the whole world.” (Quran 21:91) His virgin birth was confirmed when Mary is quoted as asking: “How can I have a son when no man has ever touched me?” (Quran 3:47) Muslims respect and love and revere Jesus as a one of God’s greatest messengers to mankind. Jesus speaking from the cradle and, with God’s permission, curing lepers and the blind. (Quran 5:110) God also states in the Quran: “We gave (Jesus) the Gospel (Injeel) and put compassion and mercy into the hearts of his followers.” (Quran 5:27) for sure Muslims and Christians do have some differing perspectives on the life and teachings Jesus. Muslim do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother.
        Islam negates two elements of Christianity, which are the Trinity and the salvific sacrifice of Christ on the cross.
        Beside that we have a lot in common. It help to read book by Anna Bonta Moreland’s she is an Associate professor of theology Villanova university. her book Muhammad Reconsidered: A Christian Perspective on Islamic Prophecy

        Precious life . Where is compassion, love and mercy? Unfortunately, violent war events and the forces of hate in Ethiopia is what we se today .
        Tigrayan lives are negligible. They are as expendable, less worthy of our tears ? for some Ethiopian and their government .They are, for too many of them , unworthy of mercy. their deaths needn’t be mourned.

        Ethiopia cluelessness. Barbarism of Militarism is embedded in the infrastructure of the imperial state of Ethiopia. In this case ,It’s not simply war on TPLF and Tigray at large and Ethiopia interests have to be “defended”; so they say, built on clichés and lies. the easiest way to maintain the illusion of national unity is to present the Ethiopian people with a powerful enemy TPLF . for what ever the reason That’s how November 5 wars started —with enthusiastic optimism to beat the TPLF. with help of Eritrean army . Ethiopia is riddled with war. Ethiopia do not know how to live in peace and sanity yet .Both Eritrea and Ethiopia are well qubit for peace-building, including dialogue “Domestically,” They have not yet addressed it holistically and peacefully .

        In regard the Dam and Gird ,there is so much being written about it and I commented number of time. I do not believe there will be a war . The three major military powers of the region —Ethiopia , Egypt , and Sudan —are all behaving eerily like are going to war. far from it . Sudan are deploying minor forces on the borders of their adversaries Ethiopia , , and engaging in muscle-flexing and “show-of-force” operations intended to intimidate their opponent(s), while demonstrating a will to engage in combat if their interests are put at risk. that will not happen.it is for internal consumption . And all parties are careful to avoid trespassing. The three are in a dire condition, socially and economically.

        What Eritrea (closed economic and self-sufficiency, has never worked And PFDJ not schooled in economics ) don’t seem to have figured out is that for economies to be strong, they need five things: Peace stability, Market demand predictability, and the rule of law. These are the pillars that attract foreign investments and boost economic growth. And that requires maintaining good relations with as many countries as possible, including neighboring countries which boosts trade and economic growth. and the Eritrean economy is keep sinking for long time and seemed ripe for catastrophe. To reverse that trend, IA and his cohort and drive the country and go to needless wars. They know haw to make war and they have to learn not to make war and need to learn how to make peace and property .It is a dream with IA regime to be realized?

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ከምዝመስለኒ
    ዲና ሙፍቲ ዝተዛረቦ
    ብፍላጥ ‘ዩ መታን
    ክስሕብ ኣቓልቦ

    ካብ መንግስቲ ድያስፖራ
    ዝብል ዛዕባ
    ከውጽኦ
    ናብ ጓል-መገዲ ከእትዎ
    ብኡ ጌሮም ‘ተረስዕዎ
    ብዝብል ምስ-ምስ
    ጫው-ጫውታ ክፈጥር ነገርዎ
    ‘ዝስ
    ቤት-ጽሕፈት ዓዲ-ሃሎ ዝሃንደስዎ

    ይመስል ይብል ኣነ

    • Brhan

      MM Nebsi,
      Dina Mufti had to distract the world, specially Eritreans and Ethiopians, about a lie he told for about 4 months. How did he do that: tell a new story. This is the work of shrewd politicians and it works very well in our region because most are emotional than rational. አነስ
      ዲና ሙፍቲ እንተጠረጠ
      አይስ

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Brhan,

        I don’t think changing the story he was lying about would have much consequence if that’s all he wanted to cover.

        The bigger problem is, he (and his government and PM Abiy) wanted to free themselves from what ever consequence they are afraid (the US and EU, they are basically begging the G-20 countries to forgive them on the Euro Bond which is due next year, they will default) and they can’t afford to be sanctioned or not aid flowing to them.

        So they are saying (not in so many words) but Eritrea has entered Ethiopia and is responsible for all the atrocities that’s allegedly committed in Tigray.

        This is the story he wanted to be hidden from the attention of the Eritrean people. He (his government) already made a deal with the US to punish Eritrea….when the senator visited couple of weeks ago…it started with the release of the Ethiopian HR the day after, and all the US or other international investigation will be copy / paste of that report….

        When all said and done, Eritrea ONLY will be blamed and punished.

        Berhe

        • Brhan

          Hi Berhe,

          When politicians give press briefing during crisis , one of the strategies they use is distraction. They can bring new subject with the intention of distracting an issue that matters public opinion.

          If you follow , the sequence :

          Dina Mufti ነርባዕተ ኣዋርሕ ሚነዋለ ገዛ ሓሶት ኮይኑ ቀነየ and this with the knowledge of A. Ahmed Ali.

          In one day, A.Ahmed Ali blew ‘ቲ መንደቕ ገዛ ሓሶት that Dina Mufti built.

          Dina Mufti appears with a new subject. Why new subject? Not only to distract but also , to cover up and run from accountability. Dina won, the battle but not the war!

          Mufti, an Arabic word means judge ፈረደ/ፈራዳይ፡ but , we have a judge who lies.

          Why PF(DJ) did not release its remarks on Dina’s remarks:

          PF(DJ) hardly pays attention to its reputation/image. Any person and/or his or her institution can say bad things about its reputation, as long as this person works secretly for its survival. It is in its culture!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            I don’t think any body even asked him about his previous lies or confronted him.

            So covering his lies, I think, was not his priority or that he cares.

            I find it difficult to believe that he would create such an outcry from the whole population, specifically when they are NNNN at his service, to counter a problem that doesn’t exist or none of his constituents really care.

            The PFDJ doesn’t know what’s being cooked for them.

            Berhe

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Brhan nebsi,
        I don’t doubt that but what I am suspecting is both the colonel and the dictator are the drivers for his statements. Their end goal is to kneel Eritrea down and to put it at the mercy of the old colonizers.

        • Abi

          MM
          Italy is not interested in Eritrea.
          ያም ለኔ ያም ለኔ እኔም ለኔ ስላት
          ቆንጆ ከእሷ ወዲያ የሌለ መሰላት
          አፍቃሪዋ በዝቶ ልቧን ስለነሳት
          ፈረሰኛ ወስዶ እግረኛ መለሳት
          ( ቴዎድሮስ ታደሰ)

          In short you are confused!!!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            No confusion here but on your little dictator’s side.

          • Abi

            MM
            My little dictator is TOO BIG TO FAIL!!!
            Let that sizzle in your mechanical brain for a while.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Your little dictator is not only going to fail but he is destined to disintegrate your country the Yugoslavian way. For that, I will always appreciate him because the whole region will then be at peace. You welcome!

          • Abi

            MM
            I think you are due for software upgrade. Stop by the nearest Best Buy.
            You are not the first zombie in this forum who wishes to see a disintegrated Ethiopia. You are not also original in your thinking. Saay beat you on the Yugoslavia thingy.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I am not sure if you notice but you seem to follow some kind of template [software upgrade, not the first zombie, not also original in your thinking, etc.] just like the NNNN. No wonder you guys demonstrate together 🙂

        • Berhe Y

          Selam MM,

          I think this time it’s different. The PFDJ got surprised like everyone.

          For example, there is this guy name ማዕበል ክፍላይ or እዛ ሃገር ዋልታ ኣለዋ on facebook who is very hardcore supporter of the PFDJ. I was listning his live show today….and he had over 2.7K viewers live.. None of the NNNN or the PFDJ were aware of this and you should see how much they are divided right now.

          The PFDJ had no game plan to the bomb shell that was fallen on them.

          I do believe it’s the work of Abiy and his government, as their are collaborating with the west to punish Eritrea and want to shift the attention.

          Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Berhe,
            I beg to differ. You are forgetting few things here:
            1. Why are you mixing up the dictator with Eritrea? He has no interest on anything good for Eritrea. He is the enemy man. Time to swallow the poison pill.
            2. The dictator and the Jr. dictator are in synch
            3. The dictator doesn’t give a hoot about the NNNN. You said they were surprised? They could be. Do you think he respect them? If I had to put my money, he respects you more than Sofia or Gideon or people like that useless ማዕበል ክፍላይ. Use and throw is his way. Once he annexed it, to Ethiopia, his plan is to throw the whole NNNN to the garbage bin and pretend that he never heard of them, including the ministers and idiot generals.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mehandis,

            I am with you about the the dictator and his intentions on Eritrea.

            Your theory works if you believe the Ethiopian side are honest with him.

            Remember what happened between him and Meles? Nothing has changed, he was conspiring with Meles as he is doing now with Abiy.

            Abi always remind us “Leboch abrew yiserqalu, sikafelu yiTalalu” or something like that.

            IA and Abiy were together when they were hitting TPLF now the TpLF is gone, who is going to get the reward will be tested.

            The reason I brought NNNN is, if IA was part of the game played by Abiy, his people, the NNNN would have given instructions in how they suppose to react.

            I am telling you, nothing is given to them this time.

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Berhe,
            I guess that is another valid theory to consider. However, I have yet to see any outcry from the HGDF bosses, including those useless ambassadors [if you can call them that].

          • Aron

            Selam Berhe,

            The only surprise is the die hard followers response. They used to adjust to what ever nsu does or say. Isu said and done a lot worse things than what Mufti said and the NNNN have adjusted to him. Not this time. The only thing I am not sure of is if their reaction is real or if nsu put them up to it to put a little scare to the loose mouth wanna be Ethiopian dictator.

            The other thing is you keep referring the TPLF as dead. Are you sure about that. Knocked down maybe, knocked out not yet. Aron.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            It’s not a surprise to me for NNNN reaction, I think they got really blinded by his comments. I am not making an argument or comparing what IA said with what the ambassador said. As opposition, I think we need to focus on how to capitalize on and weaken the regime rather than trying to be philosophical about it.

            The way I see it, the regime, lead by IA as it’s core, has layers and layers of supporters that protects it. Every time one supports remove it’s support, one layer is exposed and make the core weaker. When and how long it takes for the supporters to withdraw, I think, a lot of people have their timelines. As far as I am concerned it’s welcome, it’s money in the bank, now let’s move to the next layer. If these persons were criminals and involved in criminal activities, then let the courts deal with it at a later time.

            As far as TPLF, may be I have said they are “dead” but it’s a distraction and confusion so, I will stop commenting on them. It is really not my business or it’s not really my priority.

            Berhe

          • Aron

            Hi Berhe,
            I agree with you on all points except what happens in tigray. We are deeply immersed up to our neck in there that there is no way it is not our business. Aron

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            What ever damage is done by PFDJ, it will be a burden abs we will be responsible one way or another.

            Other than that it’s their business.

            I don’t know how main stream this hits are, but I would not have anything to do with this kind of people.

            https://www.facebook.com/samrawit.desale/posts/2894953997446627

            Tell me what do you think of them.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            Berhe

            Thank you for providing this link. It is refreshing.
            The stupidity of this group never fails to surprise me.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            All I understand is that Tigray is really a very large country. It stretched from Sudan to the Middle East.
            What is the person saying? I like to hear stupid people saying refreshing things.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            They are saying:
            Tigray (TG) is the center of the Universum.
            TG needs access to the sea, it needs to reclaim the Red Sea
            TG is surrounded G….la in the south and moslem in the north, therefore Ethiopia disintegrate and the moslem in the north need to to Sudan.
            The sons of Milinik needs to defeated and eradicated
            The support of Eritrean opposition is futile and waste of time and resource.
            After the of IA, TG needs to prevent the establishment of democratic government that stands for Eritrean sovereignty and territorial integrity.

            And so on…

          • Abi

            Hashela
            አዋይ !!
            እብድ ከተማ ያደምቃል::
            I refrain from saying anything negative about this group. It is a very well protected and supported group in the fight against PMAA. I’ve received my second yellow card. The Nitric acid is already out of the container and ready to be applied.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Hashela,

            ናዚአቶም ነገር መወዳእታ የብሉን:: እስከ ቁሩብ እንተ ተሰቆሮም ከነዘኻኽሮም: ሀገር ከመይ ከም ዝመጸት::

            https://youtu.be/S7aSlX68QqA

            I wish I can learn to play guitar to just play this song.

            ተጋቢዝካ አለኻ;)

            Berhe

          • Aron

            Hi berhe,
            I don’t really have time to spend with fringe stupid divisive people. Every society has fringes in it anywhere in any country including in the developed countries with few followers. They gain by shocking. He does not matter to me. Aron

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            I know these two guys abs I can tell you they are fringe elements. Let’s take your words for it.

            Because you are, according to your own words, Agazi, Tigray Tigringni, alowha milash for ever, can you tell us honestly what is the boarders of this Agazi land. To the North, South, East and West?

            Let’s leave ንሐማሽን ብማሕላ: ንደርሆ ብማሸላ formula for now.

          • Aron

            Hi Berhe,
            Start by combining Eritrea and Tigray for now. The rest can be worked on. Aron

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            Can you please elaborate a little more? Which Eritrea, the whole Eritrea, part of Eritrea, highland Eritrea, law land Eritrea, denkalia Eritrea…

            እዚ ሕልሚ ደርሆ ዘረባ ገዲፍካ::

            Berhe

          • Aron

            Hi Berhe,
            Off course the whole of Eritrea. I thought we been there before. And Berhino, I am too plain to do “Let’s leave ንሐማሽን ብማሕላ: ንደርሆ ብማሸላ formula for now “.
            Aron

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            ውድእ ውድእ:
            ማልስ ዘይብላ::
            ገገዛኹም ኪዱ : ሓዊ አጋጉዱ:
            ሸንኩም ደቅሱ::
            እታ ነገር ኩላ ተወዲአ::

            ደሐን:አርባዕተ እግሪ እንተለክን ጽባሕ ንርኤክን ምባል ጥራይ ይሐይሽ::

          • Haile S.

            Selam Aron and all,

            Aron, my question is principally to you and secondarily to all. In Eritrea, where do you find people of Agazian origin? Are there Agazians in other countries of Africa?

          • Abi

            መምህር
            Apparently, You have not been paying attention for the last several years. You will find Agazians in every nation including the fortified Awatenation!!! If you pay attention to details like I do, if you make it a habit to read between lines, if you are able to remember past comments and connect them with current ones, you will notice variety of Agazian characters freely roaming the courtyard. Since Awate University staff and faculty are consumed with fighting the Ethiopian flag and their past and present Kings , there is no doubt that the Agazians are emboldened and inspired.
            You see, አጋዚና ላንድ ክሩዘር የማይገኙበት ምድር አይገኝም::
            ( የድሮ ቀልድ ነው)

          • Haile S.

            Good morning ኣባ ትልቁ፡

            Very funny 😂! I was talking of before the IA & Meles opened their Exodus-boulevard to flood the world with ‘Eritreans’. I am asking Aron “were the agazians limited to settling in Abyssinia after their exodus from Yemen?”. And where exactly are they now in Eritrea. Was all that migrated from Yemen an Agazi?
            ስለ ዓወተ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ምንም ኣልልም፡ zip, nada, bouche cousue! ወርቃማው ካርድ ልታሰጠኝ ኣይደል ዓላማህ! 😁

          • Abi

            መምህር
            You will definitely get your golden card when “Awate Got Talents” resume . In the mean time stay away from the red cards .

            Long time ago there was a resident of Awatenation goes by the name Meron. He was an accountant or some kind of tax preparer. He used to say his Tigrinya speaking customers are mostly Tigreans pretending to be Eritreans. His argument was that these guys used Eritrean identity to leave Tigray. I believe the Exodus Boulevard served mostly Tplf apologists and activists on their journey straight to the West.

            Let us wait for Aron for his well thought response.

          • Aron

            Hi Haile,
            I don’t know what is with the obsession about the word Agazi. It simply means descendant of Geez. You of all people would know what it means.
            Arabic – Arab
            Geez -agazi
            Amharigna – Amhara
            Tigrigna – Tigrawy.
            It is that simple to me. If the word offends you because it was misused by some idiots who try to divide, call it Eritrea and expand Eritrea by adding Tigray to its map. Since Issayas invaded Tigray I hope he claims it while he is at it. That way the sacrifice would not be in vain and he may redeem himself by at least doing something big instead of being remembered for killing people, raping and stealing kitchen utensils. Aron

          • Haile S.

            Selam Aron,

            Your defensiveness speak a lot. If you weren’t obsessed with your claim to be an Agazi, I wouldn’t have asked you questions. Recently I came accross two book. Before I talk about what I read regarding agazians written in those books, I wanted to ask someone who calls himself belonging to Agazians on what he knows about Agazians.

            The first book is in tigrigna: ዛንታ ኤርትራ፡ ብፊተውራሪ ሚካኤል ሓሳማ ራካ፡ 1986. ገጽ 95፡ ከምዚ ይብል

            ኣግኣዝያን ምስ ሓበሻ ሓቢሮም ካብ የመን ናብ ኤርተኣ ምስ ኣተዉ፡ ብሰሜን ስመጃና ንዝርከብ መሬት ሒዞም ከምዝተቐመጡ ተደጋጊሙ ብገለ ደረስቲ ተጠቒሱ ይርከብ። ሎሚ ኣብ ኤርትራ ዝርከብ ኣግኣዚ ተባሂሉ ዝጥመት ህዝቢ ስአብኣቡር (ሰኣቡር) እዩ።
            ህዝቢ ሰኣቡር ብዙሕ ኣይኮነን። እቲ ዝርካቡ ኣብ ኣውራጃ ከረንን ሳሕልን ፋሕ ኢሉ ይርከብ። ኣብ ዓድተከሌዛን፡ ምስ ሓባብ፡ ምስ መንሳዕ፡ ቁሩብ ድማ ኣብ ባርካ ይርከቡ።
            ሰብኣ-ቡር ቅድም ኣብ ቡርን ደጊዓ ኣከለጉዛይን ዝቕመጡ ዝነበሩ ህዝቢ እዮም። ኣብ ዓዲ ቀይሕ ዒላ ቡር ኣትብሃል ዒላ ማይ ኣላ፡ እቲ ኣብ ኣከባቢ ዓዲ ቀይሕ ዝርከብ ቀበሌ እውን “ምደረ ሰብኣቡር” ይብሃል። ሰብኣቡር ማለት ህዝቢ ቡር ማለት እዩ። ቡሪ ድማ ኣብ ወሽመጥ ዙላ እትርከብ ሓውሲ ደሴት እያ። I tried to transcribe as-is without alteration.

            So based on this, seriously, SGJ and Hashela could be most authentic Agazians 😁. Aron, allow us to smile while talking seriously.

            More interestingly, I also came across a french historian of French-Algeria at the end of the 19th century. He refers one of the Berbere tribes, the Beni-Abbes people, living in south western Algeria as Agazians. He uses Agazians in the sense of Behomians. He also hints their origin as being from Himyare in Yemen.
            Reference – Louis Rinn, 1889, Les origines berbères: études linguistiques & ethnologiques.

            Taking these together, there is probably more to the what we know about agazians more than the media-based obsession of undoing Eritrea through Tigray by every means. Tigray will benefit much more by stopping their naggings on Eritrea and living ad brotherly neighbors.

            On your obsession about forming a tigray-tigrigni state based on linguistic affiliation (Geez, Agazian), why only tigrigna speaking if the basis is Geez. Claim Amhara and Argobgna and all that are related to geez and creat much bigger country!

          • Hashela

            Haile

            An interesting analysis. Now I understand as to why SGJ harbors some degree of sympathy for the mother of all Neo-Agazians :-).

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            I do have any degree for what the Italians call “squilibrato”? You tell me why you said that. But I will tell you this:
            My ancient Yemeni Sabean ancestors arrested all the criminals of the tie and sent them to our present region to serve their sentence–but the people there were so kind, they released them prematurely. The loud racists are the descendants of the criminals–everything is allowed since one can claim uninterrupted ancestry 200 generations back. And they do not even have a birth certificate!

          • Aron

            Hi Haile,
            I know you are very well read fellow. Much more historian than I am anyway. Agazi for me and for a lot of us is descendant of Geez. Since you guys want to read into it too much may be simplifying it will make life easier. I want the reunification of tigrigna / tigrinya people islam and christian. no division and shrinking on my side. Aron

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat & Aron

            Though I disagree with Aron’s argument and his claim for obvious reasons, his persistence helped us to get some history lessons from you. Thank you for the historical info.

            Aron, let me tell you this, when societies and their history are evolved for generations, you can’t stop it to reverse it back. African nations are formed from the partitioning of the continent by the European. There are no other historical basis to claim otherwise. Rest your case and accept history, and focus on how peace can prevail in our region. Think on realistic and doable things.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            Well said!

          • Aron

            Hi Emma,
            Advice well taken. I may be annoying A lot of people. I will refrain. Aron

          • Barrole

            Selam Aron,

            To think you told me that you didn’t like to argue, or wasn’t used to it before. Look at you now, handling the whole forum on your own. Ambesa! 🦁

          • Aron

            Hi Barole,
            Thanks, long time. I still don’t like to argue but some kind of way I am pulled in to it while talking about something else. Aron

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Selam Awate and Aron,
            Sometimes it is true to say it only takes one person to bring change.

            We now know why Abiy got the green light from the USA to takeout the TPLF.

            According to the Trump team, Dr Tewdros created chaos for the USA over the handling of the COVID and he refused to resign. Dr Tewdros stated how he is dedicated to saving people from preventative death.🙀 Asmara boy who turn his gun on his own city.

            I guess one true victim of the ‘Weyane’ had access to team Trump. They whispered 😇on one of Trump’s team ear saying that the best approach to this is to takeout TPLF 😜, and backed it up with their own story of the TPLF wrongdoing, including the stealing “Kitchen utensils of the Amici by TPLF and its 👏”. 👹👺

            My point is making more and more enemy doesn’t help, ”
            የተናቀ ቁ_ ያስረግዛል”. The Eritrean people feel threatened by the “Mekele” so-called Agaziani approach of ‘ዐለት ኮስተርቲ’ Ethnic-cleansing, to the Afar & other minority ethnic of Eritrea, so you can have access to the sea?🤬😭 Abiy ministers call it ‘ዘር ማጽዳት’ 😂
            አህያውን ፈርቶ ዳውላውን

            From what I hear the North Tigrean ‘Gebarat’ are well accommodated in border towns of Eritrea. What is the Tigrayan diaspora is lobbying for is that the Oromo, Kenbeta & all other ethnic to look after the border towns during this Abiy crises?

            I think the Eritrean people know what it looks like when such military deployment takes place during the chaos. I know that we all are hurt by the current crises and I can not pretend to say that I feel your pain as much as you do. I think the Tigray diaspora’s lobbying need to manoeuvre.

            Respect,
            Reclaim

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Reclaim,

            I personally never saw that IA will do harm to Tigray people. Through his 50 plus history, the one thing he got right was to minimize long term people to people damage by inflicting damage to the Ethiopian public.

            After all these years, when he was consumed by TPLF and their policy towards him, and he got finally the upper hand, it would be moronic to blow the opportunity. But he us known to screw things up.

            The Tigrayan diaspora and a lot of Eritreans, who banked on TPLF might to help topple Isayas and Abiy were frantic to throw everything including long term relationships between the people that will have long lasting conflicts.

            For example, here is an article that refutes the massacre in Axum by Jeff Pearce, where the whole accusations of Eritrean army atrocities was based on.

            https://jeffpearce.medium.com/ethiopia-lies-damn-lies-axum-and-the-west-242f471c45ae

            Now it seems they are convinced the Americans will take action and IA will be toppled, so they wanted to go for the kill.

            አብ ግዜ ውራ ውራ ከብድኻ አይተዕብራ::

            I personally want to see Eritrea withdrawal and our army are safe back home. What ever happens I think, let them sort it out.

            Berhe

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear Berhe and Awatie,
            I don’t think the Eritrean troops should/need to withdraw from northern Tigray with or without Ethiopia Gov consent. Eritrea must halt TPLF motive to have no peace with the Eritrean people!

            TPLF always comes up with reasoning to exercise its muscle by either conspiring with the Ethiopian state governments or the international community. It will continue to build its weapons and military, to have an upper hand in the region.

            The Tigray people need peaceful life, they don’t need to produce elite Tigrayane to serve the top 100 organisations around the globe at the expenses of the Tigrayan peasants. We know what time it is, the TPLF members & its supporter are all over the world by the name of Eritrean chasing a dream job. ሁለት እግር አለኝ ተብሎ ሁለት ዛፍ አይወጣም::

            If Eritrea leaves Tigray it will be another big mistake. I also don’t believe that Eritrea has the obligation to withdraw, nor to capture northern Tigray. It also need to secure Meqele Airforce base for as long as necessary.

            what is አይተዕብራ means?

            Cheers,
            Reclaim

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Reclaim,

            You know from long term Eritrea peace and security it would make sense, Eritrea should look after its long term interest.

            The best defense is offense and if it’s in there it will make sure TPLF or others who will be hostile not to take root.

            The problem however, I think the Abiy government is not strong enough to stand the pressure from the west.

            Instead of going around and telling all kinds of lies and excuses (including the Eritrean), they could have said:

            1) Eritrea is there at our invitation and to make sure, the threat (to stop rockets from being launched)
            2) Eritrea will withdraw when Ethiopia government asks her to withdraw
            3) Make sure civilian causalities are minimized and no military abuse have taken place.
            4) Be transparent and open for any allegations and open for investigation
            5) support the civilian administration
            6) train / transition to other military/ police made up of Tigray/ Ethiopia forces

            Right now the TPLF activities are pushing the international community for Eritrea to withdraw. May be they are convinced they can win over Ethiopian army.

            ዕባራ means someone starved because of lack of food.

            አይተዕብራ Means, don’t starve yourself (don’t be shy).

            Berhe

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear Berhe,
            I agree with all your five points.

            He is the only person that I know of who contradicts himself. That’s the reason I said with or without the support of him or whoever gone come to power after the election.

            I believe Ethiopia is getting too big, as the people psychological and self-fulfilment needs increasing dramatically, it is difficult to administer the entire country with an old mindset by a one-man show.

            The country only has enough power and strategy to control the central region, there are fire and uncertainty on every border, and the Eritrean border will be the most vulnerable to Eritrean.

            If TPLF believes they can win the Ethiopian army then they should take their army/fighters to the south Tigray(Change of Venue). At the moment they are targetting the Eritrean army around the Adigrat region heavily which makes it difficult for the people of Tigray to live peacefully with their bordering towns. ጅራፍ እራሱ ገርፎ እራሱ ያለቅሳል

            There is no one as experienced as the EPLF and TPLF with what the international community can & can not do. Diaspora thinks they will win with civilised communication in uncivilised archaic land. ወድቆ መፈራገጥ ለመላላጥ
            I hope make sense.

            Is that similar to ዐቢርካ
            Cheers,
            Reclaim

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Reclaim,

            Your analysis make sense as well. Yes it’s the same.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hello Aron the Agazi!
            I totally agree with you!
            Tplf is not dead. Its members are dispersed in the deserts waiting for the modern day Moses and Aaron to guide them cross the Mereb river to ማርና ወተት ወደምታፈልቀው አግአዚ ምድር:

          • Aron

            Hi Abi the sarcastic,
            I am forever and ever Agazi, tigray tigrigni, alewha milash believer forever. I never forgot and I am still hopeful. Despite all the trouble that befell on the Tigrigna people, self inflicted by fighting each other again encouraged by the Minilikian Abiy and executed by the Buffon Issayas, the Tigrignas on both side of the Mereb are closer to each other than ever. I would have thought Tigray would be bitter on Eritrea and what Isayas did would be another wedge to kill the unity but from what I see it has the opposite cohesive effect.

            Granted, the idiotic Woyanes should have avoided this war by any means instead of egging on this two war mongers after they gave up their modern military to Abiy. They should have known what they left in Addis after their Marathon meeting to transfer power to yours truly Abiy peacefully to a war monger.

            That out of the way, you seem to have a problem with visible facts on the ground like Abiy. I think it is in the name. If you believe Abiy’s claim they are powder / flour dispersed in the wind you must also believe his claim Eritrean troops shall not leave because he will be hit by the woyanes from the back. I will leave the choice for you. I told you and Nitric many times over we fight each other you flourish. We unite — it is a cat mouse fight. Now Tigray who was forever Ethiopian, after the treatment the 7th king gave them they are thinking about seceding. My prayers like yours for Aaron and Moses charismatic and bright leaders with Gonads will show up to realize the ultimate inevitable sooner than later.
            Aron the Agazi with much love

          • Abi

            Aron the Agazi
            አንተ እኮ ሳይወዱ የሚወዱህ ሃቀኛ አግአዚ ነህ:: እንደ አንተ ዓይነት ሰዎች መወደድም ባይሆን መከበር ይገባቸዋል::
            አይዞህ የኔ አግአዚ የጠፋውን አሮን ክርስቶስ ተመልሶ ሳይመጣ ታገኘዋለህ::

          • Aron

            Hi abi,
            Thanks man, happy yefernjoch easter.

          • Abi

            Aron
            የቐንየለይ አሮን ሓወይ
            የአጋዚያንን ፋሲካ ነው የማከብረው::
            From the little information I gathered, as descendent of Geez, Amharas are as Agazians as Tigreans.
            Long live the lost tribes of Agazi Kingdom !!
            Now that is the most self contradicting መፈክር.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Not only Amhara are excluded from the self-serving Neo-Agazian club. The Low-land Eritreans (Tigre) whose language is closest to Geez are also excluded. The reason? Because they pray to a different God.

            The difference between the Neo-Agazian and the Agazians whose origin and geography spread Haile S. logically explained to us today is the following.

            The Neo-Agazians stemmed from the river bank of Tigris that flows across Turkey, Syria, and Irak, far away from black Africa.

            You see, Neo-Agazians are not only Islamophobic but also deeply racist.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            You know me well that I don’t subscribe for any party or group that exclude others due to their ዘር: ሃይማኖት: ጎሣ : ነገድ:
            I hereby removed my application from consideration for the Agazian citizenship.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            yes, smart people withdraw their application as soon as they realize that their chance for acceptance is low. Face saving action!

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Selmat all and Aginah Asenie Aron,

            I heard about this የመንደር ወሬ, I never thought I will come across one in the Awate.
            I have some news for you, please refer to the new Geographic map (
            https://ibb.co/wzrjCBW ) that is mandate to be administered by Eritrea, because lots Eritrean origin lives there. I believe Eritrea should stay there for many years.

            @disqus_OpSl7Ee8sN:disqus There was a saying in Ethiopia, please help me fill the blank..
            ድሃ በህልሙ ቅቤ ባይጠጣ ኖሮ
            ___________ ሆኖ ያድር ነበር

            I wrote one Getem, about what went wrong with Weyane.
            የኦሮሞ ውሽማ ለመሆን ሲያሽቃብጡ
            ትግሬዎች ለገንዘብ ሲፋለጡ
            የአማራ-ሮሞ ጋብቻ በልጣ
            ቦታ አልሰጥ አለች ለውሸማ

            Cheers,
            Reclaim

          • Abi

            Reclaim
            ደሃ በህልሙ ቅቤ ባይጠጣ ኖሮ እንደፆመ ይነጋ ነበር::

            እስቲ አሁን ማን ይሙት በአብይ ፆም ስለቅቤ ማውራት ተገቢ ነው?

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Abi,
            Today is a jews Passover day, celebrate with passover seder meal, if you are not doing the Ethiopian orthodox ፆም.
            ድሃ በህልሙ ቅቤ ባይጠጣ ኖሮ
            ነጫጭባ ሆኖ ያድር ነበር

          • Abi

            Reclaim
            አንተን ማረም እንዳይሆንብኝ እንጂ አነጋገሩ እንደሚከተለው ነው

            “ደሃ በህልሙ ቅቤ ባይጠጣ አመዱ በወጣ”

  • Mez

    Good day all,

    1) The Egyptian president said in the last days: “I say once again no one can take a drop from Egypt’s water,…”
    1.1) with the above statement, the Gerd case is going back to the UN Security Council once again–in the comming few weeks?
    1.2) if Egypt wants to go to war (with Ethiopia), that will have to happen in the comming four to six weeks time frame (before the heavy cloud and rain starts in earnest).
    1.2.1) if the rainy season comes and goes, then the gerd will get a chance to be filled, no war is likely to take place thereafter.
    2) Saay’s GiE project seems to be tangled with this event deeply.

    Thanks

    • Kaddis

      Hi Mez –

      You are probably the one who needs to prove Egypt is not at war with Ethiopia already. We are in a war with Tigray, OLF/A, Sudan, low level Benishangul and probably the inevitable Somali ( transboundary and by itself).
      So why do you think Egypt should come in person to fight while they can manage all these wars through many channels.
      My views are Egypt understands the economic value of the GERD, so complete destruction may not sound interesting for them including the West. Its a green investment and if destroyed it may implicate the West in a long term. Egypt and Sudan now wants to exploit the GERD economically
      Their strategy, specially Egypt’s, looks layered into controlling/ limiting the economic impact of the GERD for Ethiopia, keeping the country semi fragile not to become strong enough to build more and consume more from irrigation etc…
      Both Sudan and Egypt are in their best position to deal with GERD, even more to deal on distribution of the water of the Nile; because Ethiopia is under Isiais, who has been sponsored by the gulf state without the need to deal with the West. The gulf position favors Egypt….without going into our economic, political and security position. In any case the GERD significance to Ethiopia died with its iconic Engineer Semegnew… what is left is some propaganda by Abiy and isias to appeal to the population when everything fails ..

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Mez & Kaddis,

        Mez: Rainy season does not interrupt the on going of wars, except it slows them down. So if Egypt opted war or is already in a war, rainy season will not stop them.

        Kaddis: If Egypt does not join hand with Sudan, Ethiopia can dislodge Sudan easily from the land it occupied. But since they have common interest in the conflict. And you are right the gulf states will side with Egypt and Sudan in the conflict. Abiy has only hope from our despot (Isayas), to join hand in the confrontation , if the meeting of the three leaders came up with a tripartite pact. Even with that pact, when Ethiopia is at war with itself, nothing good comes out of it.

        But one hopes, if the West for the sake of their own interest in the region to come up with some arbitrary solutions to end the confrontations. We shall how the UNSC will approach and handle the conflict. Keep up the hope, everything isn’t lost with the engineer. You need a strong diplomatic leader after the current idiotic leader who lend his ears to dictators.

        Regards

        • Mez

          Dear Amanuel,

          1) If a conventional war is on the table, then the weather is a major-major factor; like general WINTER alongside the Rusian Red army–in the WW-II.

          1.1) Just think about it.

          2) if the case lands at the UNSC, some of its permanent members would wrangle back and forth for some time–in their own interest; a sort of similar scenario now (the gerd) in the African Union.

          Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            Point-1,
            “Rainy season” as in Ethiopia and “snowy season” as in USSR are two different things to equate them. Wars are conducted in rainy seasons in the tropical countries without significant effect to the war strategy.

            Point-2

            I agree with your point that there will be a lot of wrangling in the UNSC. But at the end of the day, they can come with some resolution, no matter how it satisfy to the warring parties.

            Regard

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel,

            1) My point is that The Sudan is substantially a flood plain. Once enough rain, then there will be a nightmare scenario of moving around ground force units–as a military commander may wish.
            No meaningful ground force engagement without sufficient mobility.
            2) You know better than any one else, that ground force is the “queen of all battles” (probably excluding the nuclear armaments).

            2) UNSC will get hard time to get a unified stand quick enough (since concepts such as equitable, no harm, water right are too loose to make use of them).

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            Unfortunately there is no enough rain in the sub Saharan countries that includes the countries we are referring. So the issue of rain in our region vis-vis wars, is nonissue to affect in conducting wars.

            Regards

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            you certainly mean Sahelian region that is afflicted by recurring droughts.

            The region Mez and most like you have in mind receives, on average, between 100 and 300 mm per month during the rainfall season.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            No I mean “sub Saharan African countries” that include about 25 African countries.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            You are definitely talking about the three countries in your previous comment. You even mentioned that the issue of rain is a nonissue that affects a war .
            Besides, not all the 25 countries are involved in our case.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            Hashela was trying to correct me, so is my response to him. Otherwise the contest of the argument is understood. After all the three counties at issue are members of the sub-Saharan countries. I don’t understand what point you want to make.

        • Kaddis

          Selam Gash Aman –

          The UNSC wont do much I agree, Egypt was relying on Trump reckless, undiplomatic support UNSC level, now things have changed and the US is acting more responsibly, coordinated with EU etc..

          My readings of Sudan since their revolution is different; they are doing very well and the west in in full support. they are using the momentum, you can feel the impact up to south Sudan.

          Either Egypt or Sudan wont be involved in ground or direct attack I think, while Egypt’s long term investment through Isias, G7, Esat is working just fine imploding the nation.

      • Mez

        Dear Kaddis,
        Please try a little harder and deeper.

        Thanks

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mez,

          Your comment doesn’t look something that came out from someone who thought it “harder and deeper”. If that is the case, why do you ask others to think “harder and deeper.”

          Second, if some has different thoughts than yours, it doesn’t mean they haven’t put enough thoughts on the matter. You simply do your argument to convince others.

          Regards

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            1) Thanks for reminding me.
            2) my question is still valid.
            2.1) I think Kaddis is brave enough to come out with reason and logic and present it.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            Actually, I am not defending Kaddis. You took it as a habit to tell us how to think. You did the same to me and many others. So my objective is simply to remind you that we have a thinking mind like you. You need humility to stop it.

            Regard

          • Mez

            Hi Amanuel H,
            Now you confuse me.

            Thanks

          • Abi

            Hello Mez
            You reminded me Ali Nadim from “Mind Your Language”
            “ You confuse me “.
            Anybody remember MYL ?

    • saay7

      Mez:

      No commment on 1-3.

      4 is something I know something about and it’s incorrect – by a mile.

      saay

      • Mez

        Good day Saay

        Waw, further away “by a mile”? That far?

        There is a saying:

        “ሽልም ከሆነ ይገፋል፣ ገብሥም ከሆነ ይጠፋል”

        we may have to give it some more time to evolve and revisit.

        thanks

        • Abi

          Hello Mez
          ያለምንም ጥርጥር ሽል ነው!!

  • Reclaim Abyssinia

    Good on you, Gash Beyan, for such a nice article.
    Even though it feels a bit late to comment on it but I have read it on the published day. You got me thinking a bit about the big-Q
    Is it possible for there to be other schools of thought? (3rd)
    My answer is Yes, I declare my wish to be the third school of thought.
    ‘These two fighting forces are understandable,’ they are not the only authentic heir of Eritrea. :🙀

    What do we have to do to represent the people that didn’t take up an armed struggle for an independent country, but they chose to conduce to it by peaceful means, for the following and several more reasons, to mention some of them:-

    1. They have too much to lose to take on an arm.
    2. They believed there was a peaceful way of achieving liberation
    3. They believe there is the risk of handing over the country to brigands.
    4. They believe it’s risky for Eritrean business and establishments after witnessing the ugly side of war during WWII.
    5. They believed its in the best interest of Eritrea to have economic ties with Ethiopia/Sudan
    6. They believed because of Islamic/Christianity
    7. They use extensive insurgence work etc
    8. They were Eritrean parliament members, before it dissolves and …

    It is why the question of why not include …. the Who?
    BTW, what is Gis in the graphic picture?
    Cheers,
    Reclaim

  • Ayneta

    Merhaba Awate:

    The selective outrage of PFDJ supporters.

    Many of us are rightly and expectedly outraged with the recent ill-justified remarks made by Ethiopia’s spoken person Dina Muffti on matters pertaining to Eritrea. It is outlandish and outright stupid, no brainer there. I am not here to try to dig into the possible reasons as to why he said what he said. But I want to highlight the selective outrage being mounted by supporters of the regime in reaction to the spoken person’s remarks.

    Many of the sycophants and apologists of the regime have flocked to social media to express their outrage. It was time for them to champion their nationalistic mantra and feverishly tout ‘’tuta, tuta’’. What is astounding is their willful tendency to selectively be mad. These people were either completely silent our tried to justify it with some lame excuse when Isaias Afwerki made more perilous remarks back when the Ethio-Eritrea ‘’peace deal’ was in full swing. He openly told the world that the two nations were effectively one and he gladly extended official invitation to PM of Ethiopia ‘ to lead the two countries forward’. These are not made up remarks. The guy is on record saying it. What did the supporters of the regime said/did at that time: either they gave it the silent treatment or scrambled to furnish alternative explanations. Why are they outraged all of a sudden now? The very leader they claim has best intentions for the country said more outlandish and traitorous remarks than what the spoken person said. Isaias’s remarks clearly have more weight and implications, and yet it was all business as usual for these people. Where was their outrage then?

    It is hypocrisy of the highest proportion.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    እህም
    ዝገርም ‘ዩ ናትና ምሁራት
    ብጋህዲ ሂበካ የ ስልጣን ‘ናበሎ
    ንኣቢ
    ናትና ወራሲ-ዓራት

    ኣስቅጥ ኣቢሎም ጸኒሖም
    ሕጂ
    ዲና ሙፍቲ ገለ
    ወስ ምስ ኣበለ
    ሓድሽ ኴንዎም
    ‘ንታይ’ዩ ነገሩ ክብሉ ጀሚሮም

    እምበርዶ ምሁራት
    ካብዞም ናትና ምሁራትሲ
    ናይ መደበር ምኩራት
    እሙናት

    ሰብ ፒኤችዲ
    ከምዝባ ከምዚ ‘ሉ
    ዲና ሙፍቲ
    ካብ ትብሉ

    ዓቢ ዓርጌን ሃገርና
    ኣብ ዘይውጻእ ታኼላ ሸኺሉ
    ንስኻትኩም ኣብዘይከውን
    ሃጠውቀጠው ተዕልሉ
    ዝሞተ ዛዕባ ተልዕሉ
    ንታይ ዩ ነገሩ?

    ካብ ሕሉፍ ታሪኽ ዘይትመሃሩ
    ናይ ድያስፖራ መንግስቲ
    ከመይ ጌርና ንሃንጾ
    ግዳ ዘይተተኩሩ
    ፍልጠትኩም ዘይተመስክሩ
    ብፋይዳ ዘይብሉ
    ሃጠውቀጠው ትሰኽሩ
    ኣስተውዕሉ

    ብእንግሊዝ ናይ ዝጸሓፍካ ዘይኮነስ
    ተዛሪብካ ‘ንታይ ኣፍሪኻ ‘ዩ
    ፍረ ከተፍርዩ
    ካብ ሰብ መደበር ተመሃሩ
    ኣብ ግብሪ ክትኣምኑ
    ነቲ ክንመርሖ ትብልዎ ዜጋ
    ከተእምኑ

    ፍትሓዊት ሃገር ክትተኽሉ
    ደቂ መሬት ዝቐስንሉ
    ኣብ መትከልኩም ክዓስሉ
    ፍልልይ ዘይብሉ

    • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

      Selam Mehands m.
      Typical higdef mentality that denigrates educated people “Kab Mhiro aAmro”. Your persistent bashing of educated people in general and specifically targeting shinning stars of this forum is a real impediment to what this website stands.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat WT
        On the contrary. Think again.

  • haileTG

    Selamat awatista,

    [I know that AT has very strict rules about no links on week days. I am bringing up this one as a breaking news, that would have a value on exposing the delusions of PFDJ supporters. However, if AT doesn’t approve a waiver for this, I apologize and feel free to delete it.]

    Please watch from 27:52 to save your time. It is Dahab Faid Tinga of Eritrea’s legendary singer and EPLF fighter being called a Junta, woyane, against Eritrea … by a PFDJista. Don’t be shocked, this is because she expressed dissatisfaction with Dina Mufti’s press briefing in which he announced that “if Eritreans are given a chance, they would not celebrate independence day. They do not like the day they were separated from Eritrea. This is a fact, those Eritreans abroad say it openly.” Dahab Faid Tinga has challenged him and PMAA to apologize, instead one of their dog called in barking. Please listen:

    https://www.facebook.com/100004203756994/videos/1964603100356463/

    • Brhan

      Merhaba haile TG
      We hope Wedi Shiekh, Tesfay Fihira, Jamal Romedan, all PF(DJ) sympathizers to follow her. Dahab did the right thing.

      • haileTG

        Selam Brhan…no worries about Fhira — tekEu eyu 🙂

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat Birhan
        I am glad you didn’t mention those flip-flops like wedi TiKul and BereKet M.

        • Brhan

          መሃንድስ ነብሲ
          I mentioned them because they live in countries where they can talk freely without fear.
          It is said that Wedi Shiekh is in Canada by companing his wife who claimed refugee. And there are many artists who claimed refugee and become protected persons. .PF(JD) blessed their intention to leave Eritrea and seek refugee as long as they do not join the opposition.
          ኣብ ወጻኢ ኬድኩም ክትሕከሙ ክትህብትሙ ግዲ የብልናን ግን ምስ ተቓወምቲ ኣይጸንበሩ ኢዮም ዝበሃሉ።

    • Hashela

      Selam Haile

      ተዋሪድካ፣ ንስኻ ክም ንፉዕ ድሙ ኣፍዑትን ጥባብቅን ጓቲትካ ትመጽእ፣ ዋና ገዛ ክእ ተቀቢ እጉሕፎም 🙂

      • haileTG

        Hey Hashela,

        Rules are rules…we ought to respect them. But doesn’t mean don’t try:) we shouldn’t feel tewaridka to observe decisions. This is what we hope for future of Eritrea. Accept rules.

        • Hashela

          I probably used a tasteless analog. I meant not to offend!

        • Hashela

          Haile

          I am surprised that such a high ranking official (Dina Muffti) made such an offensive statement.

          • haileTG

            Selam Hashela,

            I am more on the cynical side. Why does he say it anyway? Could it be a slip of the tongue or to gauge the reaction of the Eritrean political temperature where some Eri news media are reporting of some EDF being integrated to ENDF to circumvent the withdrawal demand??

          • Hashela

            Haile
            If I have to guess, it is the former. Knowing it will have no diplomatic consequence, he was thinking loud, I suspect.

          • Saleh Johar

            HaileTG,
            I think there are several reasons for the aggressive statements:
            1-a test balloon to gauge reaction
            2- they are emboldened to the e extent of stupidity
            3-the Dina guy is an established lier
            4- maybe Semere Reesom or Simone like him told him that
            5- it’s a psychological war to demoralize the opposition to what’s is going with Eritrea
            6- their major war field is the social media platforms
            7- to appease by throwing red meat to the cult members of both regimes
            8- read #3, 4, 5, and 6 again

            I never thought I would watch 1984 in action.

          • Hashela

            Saleh

            ?1984. Please refresh our memory.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela, Maybe it’s Animal Farm, I they confuse me.

          • Hashela

            Saleh

            I see. አነስ አድጊ ካብ አዛብእ አድሒንካ ክትሕብሕባ ከለኻ ድነድሓትካ መሲሊኒ።

          • haileTG

            Hey Sal,
            I think the dude did us a favor by letting my favorite singer Dahab to unload what was inside her and PFDJista to do to her what they are programed to do. As to the righteous indignation of some, well, well, well. When 100000+ Eritrans are sleeping on Eritrea’s doorsteps for 10+ years begging UNHCR and Tigrayans for alms, that is practical demonstration of how much these righteous indignant souls care about Eritrea or its future. They’re IA stooges who care a zilch about the country.

          • saay7

            Selamat Haile TG:

            I heard! It was funny though to hear some of the most cartoonish, one dimensional people on Planet Earth (the Nehna Nsu cult), all of a sudden becoming all nuanced and saying he was taking out of context. Whenever you ask them, ok, you got them there: can you tell me what’s the exact context that would make him say Eritreans are not happy they are separated from Ethiopia, it’s crickets. Because for them it’s never the WHAT but the WHO. He is an Isaias ally so circle the wagons and defend him.

            The context was a question about prospects for Eritrea and Ethiopia federation and what the good ambassador said was “at this time…..” based on conversations he has with Eritreans they don’t want independence it’s not something they celebrate. And who has the ambassador been talking to “at this time?” Obviously Isaias and his disciples so he is accurately reporting what he heard; the mistake he made is in thinking that the Isaias cult represents Eritrea.

            His non-apology apology is that he was taken out of context. Of course this is the same guy who swore on a stack of holy books that there are no Eritreans fighting in Ethiopia, same lie his boss (and his fellow imperial guard, including Abiy here) was telling for 4 months and when his boss was shown satellite images by the US and given and ultimatum, he buckled in one day. In most normal countries, facing same circumstances, diplomats resign. But not in Ethiopia under Abiy.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hello Saay
            May be he read your comment where you courageously said “ the best option for Eritrea is a confederation with Ethiopia “.
            You have got yourself a supporting actor. Your fake outrage is Oscar worthy.

          • saay7

            Abi:

            I keep asking you to bring the receipt and you keep thinking if you repeat it enough it will stick. How very Abiyist of you 🙂

            saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            You and I know it very well that you are running away from what you said.
            I asked for your explanation right after you commented. Your response was “ I plead the fifth “.
            Very convenient, very Saaytanic!

            I tend to remember important and extraordinarily events in this university. Your comment was a little bit out of ordinary .

            Since all the information is under your fingertips, bring
            1 your original comment
            2 my response to your comment
            3 your response to my comment

            ስለትብብርዎ በተመልካቾች ሥም አመሰግናለሁ::

          • saay7

            Hi Abi:

            You were commenting on an article. The article has the precise language and it’s still published and you are free to quote it. The rest is the usual Abi fog machine: sometimes witty, often designed to derail.

            saay

          • Haile S.

            Sekam Hashela, MoKsi and all,

            What Minister Dina Mufti said is an affront to diplomacy. But diplomacy has been conducted undiplomatically in our region for long especially since IA said ምርሓና to a leader of another country.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Hashela,

        I think it’s the automation script that removes it.

        Berhe

    • Abi

      ኃይላችን
      What is the official response of the Eritrean opposition parties based in Ethiopia and other places to this statement?

      • haileTG

        Hey Guad Abi,

        I haven’t heard yet, but I assume it is something “ke ahunu yechoKe jib ayasadrenm”

        I also saw Dina coming forward to deny what he said. What he sneaks in during the opening of the interview about this with Fans, was more telling. He said “sile federation be’wl yemaqew neger yelem” As an amharic speaker Guad Abi, can you clarify the Amarigna in this? As I understand, does it mean “it may or may not be happening”? Or does it mean “it is not something we are working on”. In any case, Amb. Dina was roiling the PFDJ last night, exposing how close on the edge they are!

        • Abi

          ኃይላችን
          The ambassador has already said that his speech was taken out of context.
          Regarding your quotation, my understanding is that there is nothing there to look at.
          One thing for sure is that we celebrate the 23rd Eritrean Independence Day come May 24.
          Personally, I celebrate with friends at GiE.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I don’t know if you have listened to what he said but I don’t what he said in ETV afterwords have addressed exactly what he said.
            To repeat this are his words.

            ነገ ኣንዳንድ ኤርትራውያን ቢጠየቁ፥ መጠየቅ ኣይችልም እንጂ፥ ከኢትዮጵያ የተለዩበት ቀን ኣያከብሩትም፥ ኣይወዱትም፥፥ ውጭ ያሉት ይናገራሉ። በኢትዮጵያ በኩል the same ስሚት ነው ያለው።

            ETV journalist was just giving him a platform to come and clear what he said. There was no follow up, there was no reply of what he said….just like what you are doing right now.

            What part of his speech was taken out of context…

            He didn’t say some Eritreans, but everyone of them….

            The Eritrean government should recall the Ethiopian embassy and have him explain what he means. He is not just giving his opinion, he repeats few times he is the spokes person of the government. So he is speaking for the government.

            Berhe

          • haileTG

            Anta BY!
            The reason we are supporting GiE is because Eritrea doesn’t have government. So, what Eritrean Embassy are we talking about here?? Otherwise, practice would betray principle!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            You have a point, I was thinking from different perspective.

            1) The Abiyist are spinning it, like he has clarified, apologized or his comments were taken out of context it.

            2) The Isayasist already already spinning and they start quoting the ambassador “We have permanent interests and not permanent friends or permanent enemies”. In other words, they are telling to forget about it, rather than take the correct course of action.

            And lastly, the Ethiopian officials remind me a line from Bourn Identity where a officials from the CIA we’re having a meeting and describing an ousted African dictator

            “ He was an irritation before he took power, he was a problem when he was in power, and he has been a disaster for us in exile.”

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            ምንድን ነው ይህ ሁሉ መደናገጥ?
            ነፃነታችሁን በትግል እንጂ በልመና አልተቀዳጃችሁም:: ማንም አልመፀወታችሁም : ማንም አይወስድባችሁም::

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            ምንድነው ኣንተ ዝም ብለህ ትቃባጠራለህ::

            He is the spokes person for the Ethiopian government and he speaks for the government.

            So he should know better.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            አንዳንድ ጊዜ ያስቀባጥረኛል:: ደግነቱ እንደ አንተ ሁልጊዜ አይደለም::

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,

            From your own post he did say some (andand) not the way you are presenting it. He is a seasoned diplomat, do you think he will say everyone of them (including you and saay).
            Even if he hinted at that most of us will object because it is not true.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            አንዳንድ ሰዎች ኮንፌዴሬሽን ይደግፋሉ::

          • Berhe Y

            Hi KM,

            May be you have to listen to it and tell me what exactly he said.

            Andand saw (the way I understand it) every one …in tigrina the word is (nefsi wekef, which means each and everyone)….what’s worse is he said they:

            – don’t celebrate it
            – don’t like it…

          • Abi

            Berhe
            አንዳንድ = አልፎ አልፎ ( ጥቂት)
            ነፍስ ወከፍ = ሁሉም

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Even if one person says it, it doesn’t matter. I am not playing word games…as an individual he can say what ever he wants and he can believe what ever he likes to believe.

            But as official government official he can’t have it both ways…

            He can pack and help them move to Ethiopia those who don’t celebrate Eritrean independence and those who do not like it Eritrean independence.

            No body is holding them hostage.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            ምነው ዛሬ ደግሞ ቁጣ ቁጣ ይልሃል ?
            አይዞህ ወንድምዓለም የኤርትራን ነፃነት የሚጠብቁት ኢትዮጵያውያን ናቸው:: ይህ ሁሉ ፍርሃት ከየት የመጣ ነው? አይዞህ ደፈር በል!
            ወንድ ልጅ ታሞ እንጂ ፈርቶ አይሞትም::

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Berhe,

            ከማን ነው የምንፈራው። እንካን ከዚህ ሴታ ሴት መሳይ ዉሸታም ይቅርና
            የአሚርካና የራሻ ጀነራሎችና ከነ ሚጋቸውና ጀታቸው ኣላሰሩን።

            But the fact that you are playing words, shows your leaders true colors. The joke is on those (NNNN) Eritreans wrapping around your flags and demonstrating along your side. It shows your government true intentions….and their sell out collaborators on our side.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            አቦ ትንሽ ተረጋጋ :: ስትናደድ ቃላቶች ያጥሩሃል::
            ጦር ሜዳ የዋሉት ወንዶችማ አይፈሩም:: ሙያ በልብ ነው ብለው ተረጋግተው ተቀምጠዋል:: እንደ አንተ አይነቱ የጏዳ አይጥ ነው ሽንቱ ያመለጠው::

            It is time to order more Ethiopian flag for the future NNNN recruits. They look beautiful wrapped in አረንጓዴ ቢጫ ቀይ ባንዲራና ::
            አቤት ውበት! አቤት ግርማ ሞገስ!! ከባንዲራው መሆን አለበት::
            I will send you one for your Independence Day.

          • haileTG

            Hey GUad Abi,
            Eyandandu is what he said…but need to check again.

          • Abi

            ኃይላችን
            If he said እያንዳንዱ , he made a very bad mistake. No excuse for this kind of blunder.

          • haileTG

            Yes Abi, he did. But shouldn’t be fired, he has family to feed. Tinish kurkim ybeqal..

          • Abi

            ኃይላችን
            He should be demoted and shipped to Asmara office. የአስመራውን ኤምባሲ ማጠናከር አለብን::
            Now I understand why Berhe was oiling his ምንሽር all day.

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            That’s too harsh! A 30-day mandatory professional development course would suffice. In the course, it needs to be made clear that Eritrea is a very special country with a very special population. It has no constitution, no election, no University, no work (servitude), no right to stand trial, no public opinion on nation’s dealings, no safety to citizens abroad, no light, no water, no mercy, no sh!t. He should learn not to draw any conclusions about Eritreans, especially when your country is using such a failed nation as disposable work gloves. He should agree and sign to have some respect to Isu and deqi erey halalat at the end of the mandatory Pd weeks!

          • Abi

            ኃይላችን
            I’m unusually and uncharacteristically harsh towards the ክቡር ambassador in my unsuccessful attempt to appease አንዳንድ የተቆጡ ኤርትራውያን ጏደኞች::
            ሰላምና መረጋጋትን ለማስፈን …
            If you allow me to summarize your comment above, I will say
            “አያያዙን አይተህ ሽልጦውን ቀማው”

            ሽልጦ= ትንንሽ ዳቦ ( ሙልሙል)

          • haileTG

            Ok Abi,

            Just make sure that the PD course is to be taken online, it will be unsupervised, just he needs to check self completed box at the end. That should teach him his lesson.

          • Abi

            ኃይላችን
            You are kind of kind to ክቡር አምባሳደር:: Expect a well placed ቴስታ or ቡኛ from የበርሃው ተጋዳላይ በርሃ ::
            In addition to the PD course ክቡር አምባሳደር should sign up for an expedited PR training sessions.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            All I conclude from your recent writings is that it is not in Eritrea’s interest that TPLF get completely eradicated. With the TPLF still posing a threat to the realization of Amahara’s territorial claim, the elite of the latter are increasingly becoming the most ardent defender of Eritrea’s sovereignty. An interesting manifestation of Realpolitik.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            You must be the first awatista courageous enough to put Abi and writing in the same book. Abi and writing are mutually exclusive! They don’t exist in the same nation including Awatenation!!

            The mighty Amharas respect ( grudgingly, of course) the territorial integrity and sovereignty of our important ally, Eritrea.
            Tplf is posing no threat on the territory of the Amharas.
            Tplf? You mean the dead Tplf?
            እዋይ!

          • Hashela

            Abi

            “( grudgingly, of course)” Love it.
            you are giving me a nice break from a dry coding task.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I’m not representing Amharas but I know how long it took me to finally admit Eritrea is a neighboring country. Funny thing is, ክብርት እመቤት hasn’t accepted Eritrea as a country yet. May be never!!
            She is taking the boys to Eritrea ክፍለሃገር probably this or next summer depends on Covid and other things.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            I know Neo-andnetists (ኣንድነታውያን) of Eritrean descendants are hard to convince.
            I am sure your boys will love the absence of luxury in IA’s Eritrea

          • Abi

            Hashela
            The boys are not looking for luxury stuff. They always use public transportation when visiting Ethiopia. They are expecting the same in the Eritrea.
            Except to see millions of አንድነታውያን in the near future.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            The First Lady must be incredibly grateful to Awate for keeping you away from her.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            They are experts at ኣቀባቅቓብ and they take turns at our expense.

          • Hashela

            Saleh

            very true!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            All is not lost. Because of what he said, a lot of NNNN are turning against each other and many will soon join the opposition camps.

            Few weeks ago, you and I had some back and forth of what I called the PM. As I mentioned then my reason was
            Why is Ethiopia very quite and doesn’t make it’s position known..Re: Eritrean army inside the country or not.

            It had two way to chose
            1) yes, they are there at our invitation, save face and return favor so Eritrea is not singled out.
            2) No, we didn’t invite them, and they come in their own and throw them under the bus.

            The Ambassador said exactly number 2. What ever consequence the UN or SC takes, Eritrea will be blamed for and Ethiopia will have nothing to pay for.

            So his words, re: Every Eritrean doesn’t celebrate their independence and they don’t like it was a distraction to what he said to number 2 (which is the most significant in terms of consequences).

            He knew exactly what he was saying and he know exactly what he was doing.

            He may think (and his government Abiy) that they are smart and they benefit long term. This may be get them some points with the state department but they lose big time the support and the good of the Eritrean people.

            We are use to sanctions, hardship etc..but we have a resolve and this can only make our unity stronger.

            But that’s normal within Ethiopian politics and throughout our experiences. Its short sighted, never look ahead.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            You called the Prime Minister of Ethiopia a “ baboon”.
            You also lamented living next door to Ethiopia is a curse.

            You earned a standing ovation from your support group.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know what I said and I know you will never change your story.

            You represent the same thought like past, present and future leaders of Ethiopia. Yes I repeat it’s a curse to be living with these kinds of leaders and elite people like yourself.

            I can tell you he has done us a big favour. Now you can count on how many NNNN will show up at your demonstrations.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            What you and all the slow thinking people should quickly realize is there are millions more Ethiopian and Eritrean NNNN all over the world.
            It is a fast moving tsunami sweeping slow thinking, slow adjusting, slow reacting people like yourself whose monumental contribution is no more than writing endless zibazinke that has absolutely no practical value for your struggle.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I will take this as a challenge.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            You are acting quickly for a change:)

          • Hashela

            Berhe

            My Amharic is really rudimentary, that of a 7 years old child.
            But andand means some (people), according to my Bauchgefühl (gut feeling) as the Germans would say!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hashela,

            I think I made a mistake in what I wrote. I listened again and he said…..

            እያንዳንዱ

            What is this word mean?

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe,
            I believe እያንዳንዱ is everyone–he qualified that by saying what means ‘except those outside in foreign land. Playing word games on a clear statement is like putting lip stick on a pig. He meant what everyone heard and it was an aggressive statement

          • Hashela

            Berhe

            Reminding you that you are asking the wrong person, I would say “each”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Why are you worried on what Ethiopians say, when the Eritrean government gave them the green light as to what will be the prospect of their project. Where were the outrage from the Eritrean government when Abiy shamelessly told us that 30 years struggle was a waste. We should throw our United effort to remove the despot, who told us that he will take the country back to Ethiopia (courtesy: Amb Andebrhan).

            Regard

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            You should be the first person to congratulate King Abiy when he said “ we wasted 30 years fighting “ or something like that. I agree with my Prime Minister 10000%!!!!!
            ምነው አብዮታዊ ደርግና ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ አንደ አብይ ባሰቡ ኖሮ!!!! ኤርትራ ነፃነቷን ያለምንም ደም ትቀዳጅ ነበር::
            እኛም እንደማንኛውም ፍጡር በሰላምና በፍቅር እንኖር ነበር::
            እርስዎ በከተማ እንደ አይጥ በበረሃ እንደ ጊንጥ አይንከራተቱም ነበር::

            ነገሩ ሁሉ በነበር ቀረ!

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Amanuel,

            I think it’s important that we praise and encourage each other. For example, the outrage against IA when he said those words has been growing since. The whole yiAkle phenomenon took a life of it’s own since those words. People publicly on facebook took upon the yiAkle challenge in the thousands.

            I think we may not have capitalized on the outcome and the results may not turned out to what we desired. The fact is, we have gained more people in the opposition than we had before.

            Off course there is huge division created and personally I am one of those who believed the TPLF and their insiders have had some hands on it. Another point is, our weakness to prioritize and work on things that have bigger outcome (like we forget the 20 80 rules) and instead of focusing on the 80% that we can achieve based on 20% efforts we spend all our efforts (80% of it) to solve the difficult 20 % of the problems.

            Case in point the GiE….the 20% effort and 80% outcome is very simple..
            1) Organize under the umbrella of ELF / EPLF (traditional liberation movements who have unwavering stand on Eritrean sovereignty and fight the enemy number one with is IA and his small circle of insiders. (Who are the 80%, all of us we want to go back home. Who are we fighting the IA and his less than 20% enablers).

            2) The rest of the GiE such as make up of the members, if they are unity government or not, if yiAkle be part of the founding member or not, if we need address the “school of thoughts” ELF / EPLF are all really hard problems (which will consume 80% of our time) but give us less than 20% results (as far as removing the regime). We can spend all day, every day for 365 days a year, trying to solve those problems, nothing will happen to the regime.

            Personally I have no comment in improving or changing the GiE frame work or plan…it’s really simple to me. I am on the side of Eritreans who want to remove the regime. Who they are what they want and what they would like to see in the future is all not relevant at this point to me.

            I realize the risk in this….but I am of the opinion that, we will cross the bridge once we get there and we have learned enough from our past mistakes and we should not repeat them, we hope.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            I think the reverse is true when it comes to 20/80.
            You take the 20% and spend 80% of your time and energy working on it.
            Most of the time the 80% is zibazinke that needs less time and energy. Even in negotiations, we tend to agree on most cases. What we need to agree is the core points ( in this case the 20%) of our differences.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I will take your observation values and make required adjustments.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            At this point with all my reservations let us try anything is my position. So my position on GIE is, let us try it with open mind. Who knows it might work.

            On the Mutfi thing: it is all a drama created by the conspirators (namely Abiy and Isayas) to test the water to know the nature of the reactions that might come from their base (the PFFJites), in order to strategize their plan. Check the reaction of the PFDJites after an apology is given by the DPM, a complete swing back to their loop. No change from the NNNN stances.

            Don’t put your hope on the PFDJites lots. They will be the last group to join the waves of change – possibly when the winds of change start to shake the gates of our capital city. We have learn from history.

            Regards

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,

            Where is the headquarters? It is not Cairo, is it? I am pretty sure they will pay top…top dollar for the privilege to have the headquarters there.
            Wouldn’t it be ironic this time it is against a sitting Eritrean government to boot.

            Mr. K.H

          • Saleh Johar

            Kim,
            Last time you said you were leaving this forum and encouraging others to leave. I like to think you were not serious. But be careful on accusations that you throw here. It’s not allowed to spread unfounded defamation. Let’s keep it respectful and factual. Thank yiu for understanding.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I think you are confusing Kim with someone else. DD is the name you are looking for.

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            The GiE head is temporarily located at
            1 Saaytanic Circle , Zoom City, Awatenation.

  • Aman Y.

    Selam All

    A Peace Corps volunteered in Eritrea said, “If the Eritrean oppositions are to succeed, they will have to organize them selves in a CEO type organization.” The meeting was for another matter, but it amazes me how some Eritrean friend Americans care about Eritrea and Eritreans. He is a recently retired college dean who brags how industrious Eritreans are. His assistant dean and controller were Eritreans. Names with held for fear of PFDJ nepotism accusations.

    What is the problem if GiE makes individuals, organizations and the government to solicit for help. You can not achieve goals without help and you can not receive help with out asking. This endeavor needs significant amount of money. It is high time to make alliances. PFDJs are going to work hard on spoiling every attempt. I recently learned a new word ብመን ኢኹም ትምወሉ? That was because he saw a successful event organized by justice seekers. Abiy is begging like crazy to satisfy his ego. Who owns Abiy? How about others? I do not believe this ብጽፍርና mantra slogan. Do not tell me IA is getting nothing.

    ” The Eritrean oppositions are not successful because they could not produce” show” a good leader who could be trusted by the westerners especially USA.” This was relayed to me with a description of some one who was(is)close to the oval office. One way or another the need for recognition is imminent. It might even be the strait line postulate. As long we do our diligence in dealings, it is inevitable to make alliances. That is action item one.

    Besides working with the political parties it is also high time to involve others; especially Yiakle. Yiakle is movement morphed from other previous youth movements. GiE will accelerate the next phase of the organization. They have done comparing with previous organizations like EYCNS, EYSNS , EYGM….YIAKL ….GiE should be the shared purpose of Eritreans at the moment. Greg Satell, on his book Cascade wrote”.. small groups connected by a shared purpose will achieve their vision…”

    • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

      Selam Aman Y.
      “Small groups connected by shared purpose will achieve their vision… ” In politics that is a sure way to the road of perdition.

      • Aman Y.

        Selam Woldegebriel,
        I was trying to point out how small groups loosely connected by a shared purpose achieve changes Yes the movements usually cease to exist, hijacked by politicians after the achievements(the change). Kero, Fano and others were the engines of the change in Ethiopia. We do not hear much about them now a days.

        If Eritrean organizations however small adopts GiE’s purpose, they can bring change soon. Movements like Yiakl’s have to widen their horizon and work towards a shared purpose cognizant “the road of perdition.”

        The Eritrean student association is an example which officially ceased to exit.
        The justice seekers arena hosted a few who do not exist any more.

        I hope I explained it (myself) more

        Thank you

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ከምዝመስለኒ
    ማስያ ተጀሚሩ ብጎቦ-ጎቦ
    ክስሕብ ጀሚሩ ድሮ
    ናይ ብዙሓት ኣቓልቦ

    እግሪ ሓፍ ከይበለት
    ንሓደ ኣካል ክትውግን ጀመረት

    ኦሞ ጌርካ ምሕጻብ ከድሊ’ዩ ዝመስል
    ክጽሪ
    ሕማም ናይ ትማሊ

    መንግስቲ ዝትከል
    ብሓባር ናይ ሃገር
    ናበልካ
    ዞም ሰብ እከለ ምባል
    ‘ታይ እዋኑ ጀመርካ?

    ኤእ! ዓገብ
    ንዕዘብ ኣለና
    ሓደ ወገን ተጎዲሉና
    ኩላትና ጎዲልና
    ሻሻይ ጸላእትና

    ካብ ተናኽሰቲ ኽላባት ተጠንቀቑ

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear friend Engineer Development,

      It is niece..You are doing fine.

      KS,,

    • Haile S.

      Selam መሃንድስ ምዕባለ፡

      When I used the adage related to a region, I used it in a self depricating way using obviously a self-serving adage to begin with. Again obviously, I am not representative of any region to self-depricate everyone. Based on your reaction, the cover of humor did the opposite of what it was intended for. It was not at all my intention to hurt a group or a region under the cover of belonging. The only thing I will say now is: I apologize to anyone who felt targeted and demeaned. Again it was not my intention at all.

  • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

    Selam Dr. Beyan,
    You never stop surprising me with your imaginative ideas. Notwithstanding your genuine intentions to expand and deepen the breadth and width of the surging enthusiasm, sometimes radical ideas devoid of practicality may tend to be circumscribed to only academic somersault to nurture our intellectual curiosity.
    The million-dolar question that everyone is trying to answer is how do we rally our people to come together and get rid of the dictator at Adi-Halo. To-date, all options were tried and failed until Saay’s proposal breathed a new life and direction to our conundrum. In geometry, the shortest distance between two points is the straight line. In elementary logic, you try to understand the problem, before you attempt to solve it. The brilliance of Saay’s proposal is it explors and touches the Eritrean psych, which is the outcome of hundreds of yrs of colonization, wars, migration, displacement, poverty and struggle for Independence. When you summon this inner feelings, beliefs and dreams of the people you are bound to get positive responses and results.. I am not saying we should be bound with the past, but use the past as a stepping stone to the future
    Now let us briefly revisit your third school of thought. True, the numbers of ELF-EPLF members is dwindling to extinction while the non-members and those who do not have any allegiance to these organizations skyrocketing many folds. But this significant majority does not belong to any common school of thoughts. In fact, your third school of thought are fragmented bunches who do not see eye-to-eye with each other. They are not anchored to the the peoples’ historical developments and lack practical far-sighted vision. (I mean not on paper). The groups you mentioned are known for escalating the divisions among the diaspora population to a bizarre levels never seen before. Calling for a ” broader coalition of convenience” is a menu for disaster, nurturing a new spate of fragmentation and a precursor for power grabbing wars. That is what, at this sensitive junction, the GIE is trying to avoid.
    With regard to the group whom you wisely abscond to name, I sincerely summon your good intelligence to interrogate from it’s Genesis to its current metamorphosis with a litmus test of integrity, consistency and objective.
    As we all have been hinting to make the proposal more perfect and inclusive, it is encumbent on the national task force to:
    (a) Select its cream and visionary members of the ELF-EPLF;
    (b) Ensure the diversity of its members, and
    (c) Understand this process is a transition to make a historical closure and not a perpetuation of the past. It is a bridge for going forward to the future.
    I believe, we should, with the reservations we may have, to put all our energy on the GIE and move forward.
    Last but not least, l loved the front page background colors and art. Of course, the interpretation and understanding of any artwork depends on the viewer’s disposition, reflection, attitude, understanding, etc. To me, it was a master piece.
    Regards

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Woldegebriel,

      Many thanks for your elucidation on the subject. Let us confine our collective thoughts then to the central question you incepted your note with: “…how do we rally our people to come together and get rid of the dictator at Adi-Halo?” The answer resides in the very question posed in that the way one rids oneself from a menace is by coming together. To come together one has to be able to rally the people. How you rally the people is not by excluding them from the process of the formation. To the contrary by including them every step of the way. You want the people to have ownership in the stake. To have a stake they would have to trust the process. They would have to trust the people who are going to represent them in that process. Eritreans have never been this low in the scale of trust.

      There may not be a straight line of an answer for a political movement. One thing for sure, the shortest distance in this case cannot be a straight line top-to-bottom approach of organizing. But as Haile S. alluded to it in his previous note, Eritreans are fragmented along all lines of isms you can think of. Momentum and “moments matter” stipulate two authors of a single book aptly titled, “The Power of Moments”. And added, “what an opportunity we miss when we leave them to chance! Teachers can inspire, caregivers can comfort, service workers can delight, politicians can unite…All it takes is a bit of [forethought and insight]”. The initiative has all of the ingredients except of the unwillingness of going to the reality on the ground and convincing the public.

      That’s what Sinit did. Saleh Younis was there. Saleh G. Johar was there. And so were the mosaic public the likes of which nobody had seen. This was Oakland, California 2019. Everyone was delighted to see such a mosaic scenery that reflects Eritrea. This is why I had previously said, this kind of massive project will require economic or financial wherewithal that is going to be one hugely important factor that could be the difference between success or failure of the project. Hire people for however many weeks, capable people, who can sell the idea who can do the leg work the way Sinit did, albeit out of their respective pockets.

      Create a go-fund-me and see how many people are on board. That can be the litmus test. If people dig into their pocket and contribute toward this end, then, and only then will you be able to tell they are with you on this all the way. Without galvanized followers who can come out to demonstrate when needed; without the public support nothing will be galvanized. Bring onboard from those who have a proven track record of galvanizing the public into the leadership post, you will see the public being galvanized. If you, however, decide to do a top-to-bottom approach, I’m afraid the leaders to be will be disappointed.

      I

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Beyan & Woldegebriel,

        “Create a go-fund me” is really a litmus test to know as to how the Eritrean people are rallying around the proposed national political project. Besides, you are also right (a) financial resources (b) to have full time professional personnel to lead the project from its inception to the final stage – the formation of GIE, are important factors to the success of the project.

        However, I do agree with Woldegebriel on the Yeaki issue. Indeed, Yeakil is still a fragmented movements without identifiable organizational structure and worldview that differentiate them, so far, from the two major school of thoughts to count them as the third school of thoughts. But since they are the greatest social group as a movement in the diaspora, they could have enough time to develop the “organizational” and “political thoughts” that differentiate them from the two school of thoughts, within the same time frame, to consider them as the third school of thoughts to share in the formation of GIE.

        Regards

        • Bayan Negash

          Selam Ahwat – Amanuel mis Woldegebriel and Awatawyan

          Allow me to hastily jot my thoughts because I have the utmost respect to your principles when it comes to minority, diversity, and the like. I won’t be able to communicate until late at night.The challenge I see facing us in this regard is multifold. I will not enumerate all but here are a few. You mentioned about the disjointed nature of Yiakil. Fragmentation is our oppositions’ MO. Hardly can you find entities that did not multiply in the end or that didn’t have individuals who left it for one acrimonious reason or another. That’s our experience What we need to look at instead is at the talents within these fragmented bodies. They have capable leaders that one can approach and invite for a preliminary session.

          I was in a conversation yesterday with a friend with tremendous experience in matters of Eritrean politics. He was impressed with the willingness of Yiakel (no need to express which one) to listen. Not only listen but appropriate the suggestions offered to them by my friend. If we begin to exclude groups because of their ill organizational structure, lack of skills, and inexperience we will exclude a whole lot more of individuals and groups. The ELF and EPLF groups win it hands down when it comes to splintering. So, that’s not sufficient gauge.

          The measuring yardstick should not be the individuals who were part and parcel of EPLF or ELF but the ideas that propelled them to become revolutionary organizations, which is to say, anybody who claims to believe in Eritrea’s sovereignty cannot in good conscience oppose the principles by which that sovereignty was made to become reality. That can be one among many the GiE can inscribe in its preamble.

          Again, what I need to emphasize here is the question that Sal Y. posed had Yiakel in it as an example. I went along with it. I meticulously used Sinit’s principles because there is no other group that was able to come up with several reports that can be used for to prep for a GiE

          Cheers,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Beyan,

            Even if they have not identifiable “school of thought” there must be somehow a way as to how this “Yeakil movement” will be part of the process. In my earlier comment I was trying to argue in terms of “school of thought” having a view on them, that they don’t have identifiable school of thought. If Saay’s proposal wasn’t on the basis of “school of thoughts,” then there isn’t any difference between the fragmentation of the “political organizations” and the young “Yeakiil movement”. In such scenario, my argument will take different route to make my point. I hope I made clear my point view.

            Regards

        • Aman Y.

          Selam Ato Amanuel
          I do not think Yiakl as an organization, adheres to a specific ideology.
          They have already stated their non political stance at the formation. It would be a success if they would work in collaboration to facilitate the project. The members range from ELF/EPLF to 1998/2000 war veterans as well as foreign born Eritrean. Most of them are educated with many Phd. holders among them. And they raised over $150,000.00 on go fund me and hired the chair as a fulltime. Report taken from their quarterly public meeting on face book.

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam Aman Y.
            Obviously, you are an intelligent and talented person. What is the common denominator of this group?

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Wodegabriel

            If I understand the question well, the common denominator for the movement at that moment was just “Yiakl” Enough! for all the injustice in Eritrea. But saying enough by itself can only take us so far. That is where the brilliance of GiE comes. GiE can jointly find another common denominator by creating a cascade to achieve Eritrean peoples aspirations.

            And thank you for the compliment. I do not believe I am as intelligent or talented as you think Iam. But I am here, eager to learn.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Aman Y.,

            Let me state this before I share a brief comment on the issue:

            It gives me a great pleasure to see you (from our young generation) actively engaging on the cause of our current struggle against the “evil man” at the center of the Eritrean politics. Your contribution to the debate is commendable.

            First , since Yeakil’s activities are political in nature we can not assume them as non political. Even advocacy org and civil societies are political in nature. They only differ (a) on how they see power and it’s authority (b) the extent of politics they want to play.

            Second, some advocacy orgs or civil societies and movements could evolve and transform their orgs in to political orgs. So the big educated base of Yeakil movement, a given time and space can be consolidated in to a formidable political org that could be an alternative to the old archaic political organizations. After all they are the future Eritrean politicians to assume power and assure the continuity of modern Eritrea as a nation and its good politics to manage crises accordingly. So don’t count them out.

            Third, the choice how they will play on the project should be left for them, though I love to see them having a space in the political equation.

            Regards

          • Aman Y.

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I am humbled by your welcoming and encouraging words.

            I totally agree with your descriptions of the nature and activities of most organizations. For Yiakl and other Eritrean orgs. vs GiE, GiE, as the newest and broader initiative, should create a plat form for a transformational discussions you brought up.

  • haileTG

    Hello Awatista,

    This video (<2min) of a Tigrayan artist calmly pushing back against personal celebration to stand with his people say it all – the kind of gloomy times we have arrived at…

    https://www.facebook.com/364230590656749/videos/2756506457994164

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello Haile TG,

      WELCOME BACK! I saw you the other day talking to Memhir SGJ, and I was glad to see one of my “recently missing all time favorites” back.

      • haileTG

        Merhaba my great friend Fanti, so nice to see you too and can’t wait for your updates too… Entay’ke yebehal alo? 🙂 [Our traditional first question after bun & Hambasha is passed around :-)]

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat HaileTG,

          I have absolutely no useful information that is not already public. I have ruled out contacting anyone back home because one of my nephews ruined it for me the first day I called by going into details he shouldn’t have.

          I have been extremely busy this year, coincidentally, ever since COVID, and it looks like it will stay the same for me for few more months.

          • Saleh Johar

            Kentba Fanti,
            Keme’lowu? Glad to hear from you. Stay safe but don’t disappear altogether

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Memhir,

            ከም ድሙ ቅልቅል ቅልቅል ይብል’የ but not enough time to knock on the door. You won’t believe how busy, in so many ways, I have been.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Fanti,

            ድሙ ጎልጎል ሰላም እንተበልካዮ መህደሚኡ😁፡ ኮይኑና እምበር፡ እስኪ ሰላምታ ይብጻሕካ። ቅልቅል ኣይተጥፍእ!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat kbur Hailat,

            “ሰላም እንተበልካዮ መህደሚኡ”

            I have to prove you wrong by coming back early next Sunday, don’t I?

          • Haile S.

            ፋንቲ፡

            ፋንቲ ተመልሶ ህድማን
            ኣሰሮ ለሠይጣን

            ጽቡቕ ገበሮ! ኣበይ’ከ ረኸቦ! ክብለልካየ።

      • Abi

        Fantastic
        አንተ ደግሞ እንደ እልፍኝ አስከልካይ አትታይም በቦታው ግን ሁልጊዜ አለህ::
        ያለ ግን የማይታይ ! ( under the shadow)

        Your Fantiness
        ገዳም ገባ ብለው ሰዎች ሲያሙህ
        ልትናፍቀኝ ነበር ፋንትሽ እንዴት ነህ?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Abisha,

          It is funny, but “Silent Partner” was my handle at one venture I was involved in in my late 20s.

          ብቅ ብቅ እያሉ ሳይናፈቁ
          እንደተሰለቹ መች ኣወቁ

          ከመባል ኣዳነኝ መጥፋቱ
          እየታሙ መሰንበቱ፤

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            You told me about your “silent partner “ adventure.
            “ያስቁኛለሽ” ያልከው አንተው አይደለህ?

            “መምጫውን ቀን ናፍቀው ስመው ካልተለዩት
            መች ያስተማምናል ወዳጄ ቢሉት”
            ብሏል ፀጋዬ እሸቱ

            ስሜ እንዳልሸኝህ አትሄድ
            በእልልታ እንዳልቀበልህ አልሄድ
            እንደ እውር ሽፍታ ጏሮ ተደብቀህ
            ፋንታዬ ነህና ሆዴ እያወቀ ትናፍቀኛለህ

    • saay7

      Haile TG:

      It was quite a treat! There is zero peace lobby in Ethiopia: even the religious leaders (Muslims, Christians leaders of every denomination) are State employees in the service of the State. Same with the artists. This is why it was such a relief to hear from the artist.

      saay

      • Kaddis

        Selam saay –

        Not only there is zero call to end the war …What is extremely scary is the romanticisation of the Eritrean national service in the Amharic city elite. More surprisingly scary is – I was hoping they don’t know what it means the endless misery Eritrean national service is; in case they were thinking of the Greek one, the Israeli or even the Derg one ( at least you become a proper military if you are not dead )…nope they know its an indefinite misery but still thinks it will fix the Ethio youth weak nationalistic stature.

        The GIE ( I wish it has a ‘transitional’ inserted somewhere for the African Union’s sake, I can explain if needed ) is also urgently needed in Ethiopia before the NNNN Ethiopia chapter gain momentum. Cause every time the baby PM decides to address the expired parliament he complains he is not getting enough military to die in the senseless war, conflict and ambush everywhere in Ethiopia; we are in a pre Giffa ( afesa ) season.
        Bertu,

        • saay7

          Selamat Kaddis:

          You *do* live in a country where its chattering class including the four State media believe the following contradictory views passionately:

          1. The Weyane June Tah were defeated in November, buried 12 feet under, never ever to come back
          2. We need the Ethiopian National Defense Forces, the Amhara Special Forces, the Eritrean Defense Forces, and to declare a State of Emergency to defeat the Weyane June Tah.

          For four months and counting.

          As for your political leaders (those not arrested): I just heard Engineer Yilkal call for an all inclusive national conference and even the fascist (and I don’t use this word lightly) Tamrat Negera call for a negotiated settlement. I guess they are the anomalies ?

          The transitional nature of GiE will be in article 1, in my view, along with the fact that it is a unity government.

          Saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            You still believe on “centralized unitary government” for our multicultural society, with all the mistrust among them? We had it for thirty years and that deadly experience is not enough to change your mind? I am baffling. If the people of Eritrea chose that kind of government going forward, I will assuredly tell you that there are many tyrants on the queue and I will say good luck Eritrea with that fate and prospects. To do that you need to implement the flawed EPLF drafted constitution.

            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Are “unity government” ( what Saay said in his comment above) and “centralized unitary government “ one and the same?

          • saay7

            Emma:

            Unity not unitary.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hello Saay
            In three words ያንዣበበውን የጥርጣሬ ደመና ገፈፍከው::
            ጠርጣሪው በጠረጠረው ጥርጣሬ ተጠርጣሪውን ስላስጠረጠረው ተጠርጣሪው በሶስት ምርጥ ቃላት ጠርጣሪውን አረጋግቶታል ::

          • Kaddis

            Selam Saay

            Thanks for reminding Tamé ገጀራው : – ) I have been enjoying Tamerat’s desperation the last few editions …the funny part is Abiy did exactly what they subscribed: i, e.. attacking Tigray and oromo, while the federalist camp screaming risk of implosion …Tame has no problem on finding credible facts, understanding the geopolitics, power play etc…unlike many ( all ) Ethio ተንታኞች …his problem is delusion, he is now at destination desperation.

            I don’t know how and when the Amharic city elite learn to practice to live in denial, lies after lies.

            They wanted to have a weak PM, who betray its supposedly power base ( the Oromo) and follow order on facebook. They want him to betray his comrades, act like an elected from god leader than a transitional one as long as he sings Emeye Ethiopia and build Minilik wax statue, who sleeps with anyone including መሳይ አልባው Isias to attack their imagined enemies, knowing Isias is hated by the west and its people. They wanted Abiy to neglect the constitution, discard it without process and create a unitary Amharic dominated state.
            Abiy exactly did that. The country is now fuming in every corner, hated by its neighbour and the world, imploding with its economy collapsing.
            Now – just few weeks into the Tigray and longer Oromia war; Tamerat wants Abiy to immediately follow a strategic 58 page foreign policy document , be a strategic ally of the west, resemble Meles ( giving the climate change agenda to the world) call back Ethio career diplomats, lobby hard, revive its position in AU, Igad ( I can see Isias laugh here ), make up with Kenya, Somalia, Somaliland, Sudan ASAP!
            ….how do one can contradict with himself than Tame ገጀራው? How do you discard a working constitution but follow a refined foreign policy and public diplomacy that can defend a genocidal war without being sanctioned … አስማት የሆነ elite
            Thanks again for the reminder – entertained until next week : -)

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kaddis,

            What has gotten in to you? What is all this gibberish. Are you trying to ingratiate your nick name to the owners of this site.
            Please control yourself your hatred is showing, it is not worth it.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            Finally you woke up! I didn’t know you were a late riser. Now you know who this Haddish the chameleon is.
            A chameleon that changes his ethnicity every season.
            He is scavenging for hambasha crumbs (brownie points as you like to say).
            “ጅብ የማያውቁት አገር ሄዶ ቁርበት አንጥፉልኝ ይላል” ይላሉ ዘመዶችህ::
            እንዲህ አይነቱ የቀን ጅብ ግን የሚያውቁት አገር ሄዶ ነው ቁርበት አንጥፉ የሚለው::
            “ለማያውቅሽ ታጠኝ” አለ ሰውየው!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            You are becoming a thought police every day. You want to control everyone thoughts these days…instead of focusing on the message and try to challenge or argue on what one said or not.

            You are getting bored with watching soccer. BTW, congratulations, Ethiopia made it to the Africa cup of nations.

            I am celebrating Alex Isak high moment playing for Sweden along side Ibrahimović for the world cup qualifying. Sweden won both games and very good chance to qualify and to see an Eritrean in the world cup.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe

            It is a slim chance that Sweden will qualify for the World Cup. Spain is a much more stronger team than the Sweden team that has no Eritrean player in the squad. I just checked their citizenship and could not able to find any Eritrean in the team.

            Let me know if there are any Eritreans in the Ethiopian squad.
            May be it is time to join forces and form a team.
            በሁሉም ሜዳ አብረን እንድንሰለፍ…

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            We will have to see, they have done well so far.

            Check the flags on his shoes:).

            You will see him celebrating with Eritrean and Swedish flag.

            If there are Eritreans in the Ethiopian squad, Ethiopia will have good chance making it to the second round. You guys can’t win anything without us:).

            But thank you very much, we will be doing fine in our own. I am still waiting for the two countries match.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            ወንድምዓለም ይቅርታ ይደረግኝና እኔ ባንዲራን ከራሥ በላይ ከፍ አድርጎ ማውለብለብ እንጂ በጫማ መርገጥ ወንጀል መሆኑን ነው ከዓፄ ሚኒሊክ የተማርኩት::

            I totally agree with you that you guys have been instrumental in every field including the reserve bench and the cheerleading team.
            Ethiopian flag waving Eritreans እየተበራከቱ ነው.

          • Berhe Y
          • Hashela

            Hi Berhe

            Beautiful and heart warming.
            It is gratifying to see that our youth in sports (marathon, cycling, and soccer) successfully and positively lift Eritrea and its national symbols on world stages.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            Every breathing Eritrean should be extremely proud of that scene in the link Berhe proudly shared.
            Glad I got a chance to see it before it was unceremoniously removed. Anyway, that is a moving scene.
            If that is not heartwarming, nothing is!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hashela,

            I don’t if you have noticed the big banner. It said,

            GO ISAK
            Yes you can.
            One Goal for Nipsey Hussle. RIP
            Eritrean Community in NL.

            The games was few days after Nipsey Hussle got murdered and they asked him to score one goal for Nipsey and he did.

            Isak heyyy, Isak hooo.
            I hope we sing that next World Cup.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Unlike you who only watch girls soccer, I have been following him since his Dortmund days. I also watch him ( sometimes) playing for Sociedad .
            He is a great player.

            Berhe, it is ok to watch real soccer.
            እስቲ ሞክረው::

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I admit I watch GORD soccer sometimes, and it’s because my daughter is awesome soccer player:).

            I try not to steal time from family on weekends watching soccer all day. There is way too much soccer to spend my weekends on the sofa.

            But we watch Alex games as much we can as family time.

            He didn’t have much playing time when he was in Dortmund but I am glad he was traded and had a splendid year to end up with Real Societal and he is having a great year except couple of weeks ago against Messi:).

            If one Eritrean player gets signed in Europe, Eritrean soccer will change for better.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            When my boys were young we had the most hectic weekends.
            Soccer, swimming, basketball, lacrosse, debate, tennis, community services…
            I’m sure your daughter is a better soccer player than her dad.
            Is she in the IB / AP program?
            I wish her all the best.

            I noticed you are current in European soccer. You keep surprising me:)

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Yes, definitely better, if you only knew me 30 years ago:).

            That’s what we are going through now, but last year was a bit of a break with Covid, as most things are shutdown. But I hope they open this summer, it’s really hard fir the kids overall health. We are not doing good overall, and they are taking about third wave now.

            She is in IB, and she likes it so far. Now I have to plan for the others to follow her path, so even more work for me:).

            And I want to thank you for sharing your positive feedback which reinforced the decision.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Glad to hear that she is doing great! The others got no choice but follow her lead. Are you kidding me!?!?

            30 years ago you were racing ኩቺኔታ on the banks of ማይ በላ waterways throughout Asmara.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Hi Abi,

            It’s not in May Bela. It’s in Arbe Robue. We did everything in Eritrea. If we had thought about it, we could have qualified to the winter Olympic for bob sledding just like those Jamaican guys.

            The fact that schools (which start early 7:30 am) were done by 11:30, it means we had all afternoon to play around.

            Playing 2 to 3 hours of football everyday in the street is very common. If we are not playing games, we are playing keep ups (best way fir ball control), if it’s not keep up, we are playing (tiro atiro, no touch shooting, keeping the ball below the side curb, if it’s not that, we are playing penalty shoot out). It’s just endless football (stuffed balls that we ourselves) and trying to recreate what we watched on TV.

            On Saturday, either we are going to other neighborhoods or some other teams from different come to visit us fir a match (for few cents, usually 50 cents) and Sunday are reserved Cycling in the morning and watching football at stadium in the afternoon.

            Sometimes I feel the kids growing up in west, are like in prison.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            All I have to say is WOW!!!!
            Now that is how children should grow to become productive citizens. Proper schooling, sports, recreational activities… beautiful, beautiful!!
            Definitely better than the kids in the western world.
            አሁን ይህ ሁሉ በደርግ ጊዜ የተፈፀመ ነው ቢባል ማን ያምናል???
            Unbelievable!!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            It’s not Derg who gave us. It’s our people and our values. For example, children are very safe in Asmara to go outside and play all day. Yes body gets worried about their whereabouts.

            Walking to school is very, common from grade 1 I would say. The only thing people worry about is crossing the streets.

            Women walking alone to school and street is common. They can go to any neighborhood and they will not be afraid of anyone.

            Then come the Tor serawit, qebele members, and those ESEPA members and the children of those Dergi sons (deqi wetader who were known as Deqi QaNew – military base, with their armed body guards) who started terrorizing the youth, the young beautiful girls by going to high schools.

            To fight those guys, neighbour gangs were created in each neighborhood but they never bother the young.

            So don’t try to credit to Derg or HS or Isayas, with or without the government the society behaved in such manner.

            It’s still the case for the most part, it will be the case after the PFDJ are gone.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe
            The more you move the goal posts, the more you scored own goals. You don’t know which goal is yours.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            “በሁሉም ሜዳ አብረን እንድንሰለፍ…” 🙂

            I can only shake my head! You are unteachable!

          • Abi

            Hashela
            ተሳሳትኩ እንዴ?

          • Hashela

            Abi

            it is highly time that you guys stand on your own feet and guard the western gate.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I totally agree.

          • Kaddis

            Selam Kim –

            If you have a point you dont agree with bring it. If you are not angry with what is happening in Ethiopia and the region, the call for 16 old years eritreans to the war next door news – its you who should check yourself. I am doing fine …in fact enjoying the desperation of the war blessing amharic city elite that I live with ( and belong BTW ) pretending to see only the not destroyed part of the country. Dont worry about the site – we are here not to pretend and the owners know where we come from …dirt poor countries that replay war like old school music.

          • saay7

            Thanks Kaddis:

            This man is so extreme that he has spoken, on camera, about how might makes right and Ethiopia should use its size to have its way with Eritrea. And, I heard, he enjoys the ear of Abiy Ahmed as one of his “advisors.” That he has now switched from kill-em-all to let’s-talk is an indication of how unmoored Ethiopia’s foreign policy which had (love it or hate it) always distinguished itself , unlike now when a hunted group of rebels is running circles around them in Western corridors.

            saay

    • Abi

      ኃይላችን
      This guy practically ended his career in Ethiopia. Good thing is he has earned his brownie points from the biased and confused.

  • Kebessa

    Hello Awatistas,

    How time has changed in the last few yrs! Now it is like every one can own a website, thanks to social media platforms like face book & twitter.
    But of course noting like the classic, such as this website.
    Anyway, I was in the neighborhood & I thought I would stop by & say hello.

  • Hashela

    Selam Haile

    Great. Just saw your post. It was hidden and awaiting moderation.
    That bird is one of my favorite.

  • Haile S.

    Selam Beyan,

    This is a lift to the GiE from deep critical thought on the schools of thought. ELF and EPLF are the licenced (from history and struggle point of view) schools of thought. As you pointed out the renewal of their licences or their transfer to their widely spread children is in question, though the heritage will persist forever. And rightly so, you brought the other school of thought that has forced a licence albeit with hum and haw, the yiakl movement.

    FB and youtube has also exposed the existence of myriads of self licenced schools of parceling thoughts. These multitude of awraja, religion, ethnic, transborder-kinship or imagined antiquated history -based organisations are a challenge not only by their apparent disdain on the founders of struggle, but also by their declared or hinted divergent approach to tackle the problem of the nation through their own image. I imagine, it would be challenging for these groupies to find the GiE tantalizing to adhere to one or the other of the oldies. We are seeing already their knock on the GiE door is for asking the occupiers to get out rather than them getting in.
    Without mentioning name(s), I was watching a program yesterday where representatives of awraja-based groups were discussing GiE. I realized that the self-serving adage ዓሻ ኣከለጉዘታይ ልቡ ከም ሃገሩ is completely false 😁😁. It is ለባም ኣከለጉዘታይ ልቡ ከም ሃገሩ 😁😁 (claimer: both my parents are from that region)!
    While guessing that there is no easy answer, let me ask you and HaileTG (because I read his reaction) this question: how is it possible to make the core idea palatable to such people in the first place and/or to convince and bring them to the proposed idea.

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Haile S. and HaileTG,

      Thank you for seeing the spirit in which the article is penned. It’s to galvanize the initiative into actionable objective that diaspora Eritreans will begin to see it as that defining moment which changed the movement toward something bigger than themselves. The ELF/EPLF paradigm requires a genuine soul searching for one to see not its letters but the spirit that it tries to uplift. It is unfathomable to imagine for people to handily lay a blame on a revolutionary project that gave them a national identity. Why even call yourself an Eritrean if you denigrate the very revolution that brought you such an identity? I don’t get it.

      Such pits are coming in so many forms, as you rightly pointed out Facebook and YouTube has given us “the schools of parceling thoughts”. Fragmented thoughts are irritating to no end if they aren’t dangerously teetering toward the Mogadishu model. I believe I know who you are referring to, where an Eritrean was warning the host of turning Asmara to Mogadishu where warring factions were let loose after the fall of Siad Barre. The clan identity became a political weapon by which brothers were pitted against one another. I am afraid I can see all of the ingredients that Mogadishu had in our Asmara where it will become a warring ground as each group tries to get their share of political power.

      Again, the genius of the initiative lies in the fact that it wants for people to focus on their Eritrean identity as opposed to their region or religion. There is a common history we can all look back to as a result of which a nation was founded. Once we honor that the rest will become less important. The question of “how is it possible to make the core idea palatable to such people in the first place and/or to convince and bring them to the proposed idea.”? That’s a million dollar question, Haile S.

      I cannot profess to know the answer to the question above – it is a very difficult one. The only tenable thing I can think of is to break that cycle by selling the initiative to the younger generation their vested interests lie in honoring the past of their parents. As HaileTG was saying in the first entry under the thread here in which he mentioned the following: “NiqHat is an important tradition of the Ghedli struggle. Hafash yinqaH, y’wedeb, y’teateQ! Of course, time to move onwards and forwards” This is one critical factor that’s missing in the various movements in the diaspora. How do you show them the entire sociopolitical landscape contained within the peaks and valleys of the struggle, a struggle that Eritreans paid dearly for? Where do you even begin for that matter. The social media is so vast, very hard to streamline. I know I am not helping us reach to the pointed question you posed. But all I can offer is this frustration laced entry.

    • haileTG

      Merhaba Moksi,

      Since Haw Bayan has looked at the futile side of trying to win back those people, I will talk at the workable side of how to discourage them from any meaningful part in this project. Let’s be candid, their narrow, selfish and twisted arguments were always lurking in the shadows, even as Eritreans were fighting with their last breath to thwart occupation and bring independence in the mountains of Sahil and every other village and town of the country. Such people always existed but had few followers. They are merchants of death and destruction. At their core there is nothing other than racism and fanaticism. (Not you) but they bring more shame to those who listen to them than themselves. Because, themselves, they are outcasts who are taking advantage of the current challenge faced by Eritreans. We need to stick a large notice board above the GiE website or something saying that: sectarian, fanatics and racists not welcome. B’kbretkum abzi aytsh’nu type signage. Why do we follow that approach? Well, think about this: at best, all they can do is create instability in one part of Eritrea. By their very constitution, they cannot galvanize the whole society. This means, their cause is dead on arrival, only they can’t see it. So, exposing them for what they are. Detailing their historical blunders and taking them on when the time comes and giving them a run for their money may be good for ridding their tumor and rehabilitating them.Guad Abi will tell you “fes yalew z’la aychilm”. So, my humble 2 cent is (I know they want to appear big) but will not be invited, let alone making anything palatable to them.

      Again, like Bayan added his voice too and I said earlier, Niqhat will be key…know thy enemies!

      • Haile S.

        Selam Beyan, MoKsi and all,

        Thank you for your candid responses.

        ኣነሲ ይህልዎም ኢለ
        መጽሓፈ ተኣምር፡ ገለ
        ዝፍውስ ነፍሱ ዘታለለ
        ዝዝርግሕ፡ ከም ቅንፍዝ ንዝተጠቕለለ

        በሉ ንግደፎ ክሳዕ ዝፍለጦ ምትላሉ
        ንኻልእ ዘይኮነ ከምዝኾነ ንባዕሉ

      • saay7

        Hey Haile TG:

        Happy Monday! The preferred title of our compatriots in the GiE is “comrade”, “ብጻይ”, “ብጸይቲ”, zemil and zemila. We are retiring ሓው ሓብተይ::

        Just kidding: I just want that to be the first thing Desale of ጸልማት መጻኢ reads on Monday. The guy is insanely funny, brutal and wrong about everything.

        saay

      • Abi

        ኃይልሽ
        ጏድ አቢ
        “የነቶሎ ቶሎ ቤት ግድግዳው ሰንበሌጥ”
        ” ሲሮጡ የታጠቁት ሲሮጡ ይፈታል ” ይልሃል ከኢሠፓ ቢሮ በላከው መልእክት::

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Bayan and Awatista,

    Thank you Bayan for advancing the conversation with such a thoughtful and in depth points of consideration. NiqHat is an important tradition of the Ghedli struggle. Hafash yinqaH, y’wedeb, y’teateQ! Of course, time to move onwards and forwards:

    When Saay did his Tigrigna interview with Yoel, he gave a very powerful rational. I would recommend those who haven’t heard it, to do so because he starts his interview with the “why” in a very convincing manner that I invited some friends whom would be considered supporters to hear it. From their reaction, I understood that his point was powerful.

    I believe that there is no “third school of thought”. Two key reasons for that:

    1) There is Not and Cannot be any Eritrean who could rationally admit to being Eritrean in one hand and that ELF/EPLF have done nothing for them. That would be a contradiction. They brought Eritrea to the table. Without them, you, me and everyone can’t say they are Eritrean. There is no organizational entity that can unite ALL Eritreans at this time on such subtle connection to the Eritrean identity.

    2) Even if many organizations, including YIAKLE, have done many wonderful things and continue to do so, they don’t bring unquestionable experiential INCLUSION to the table as those two parent organizations. If we include YIAKLE, the why not Kunama-centric organization, Afar-centric organization, ELLL and many others. I am not saying YIAKLE is a Tigrigna organization but it has not reached the level of unquestionable inclusivity that is commanded by ELF/EPLF demonstrably and by virtue of #1 above.

    The GiE, to my understanding is not a political commitment that Eritrea will follow. Rather, it is a transitional, legalistic, morally acceptable transition vehicle for assuming alternative leadership in Eritrean affairs. Another concern of expanding the school of thought idea is the cynicism that doing so would create. Some groups would feel left out, despite valuing their own contributions to advancing the struggle in their own way. Where do you draw the line?

    Based on those considerations, I believe that the ELF/EPLF model, with all reservations acknowledged, is the best approach forward.

    Thanks again Bayan!

    • Brhan

      Merhaba Haile TG

      I understand your concern on # 2. Yiakel is active in the West because the West allows freedom of gathering where that is absent in Africa and the Middle East which host Eritrean refugees and immigrants. So, demography and geography viz a viz democracy are playing a role on the issue of inclusiveness. This is when we see the issue globally. But also, within the west we have had the issue of inclusiveness and I have noticed with the growth of the movement many steps have been taken to solve the problem and some of them were embracing the grievances of other groups, electing their members by consensus to the board and participating in their events/meetings. The more we do that the more we make YIAKL more inclusive.

      • haileTG

        Merhaba Brhan,

        I completely commend their efforts and support their movement on the right path. However, they are work in progress and ELF/EPLF are accomplished facts on the ground in this regard. They have organized and lead the masses. They have natural connections to ALL of Eritrea by virtue of Ghedli. You can’t get YIAKLE to ghedli level in the short time we have. Ztegadelen zeytegadelen is deep rooted in the Eritrean psych politics. It would be great for the YIAKLE to earn their place in Eritrean movement for justice throu organic and evident accomplishments than advocacy. I respect them greatly but my blunt honest is out of my deep desire to see GiE come to fruitful end. My PFDJ supporting connections have bullet and shrapnel wounds they sustained in the battle of Egri Mekel, I can only confidently challenge them with ELF/EPLF unity GiE. Everything else would be divisive ultimately. I appeal to good conscience in this regard.

    • Abi

      ኃይላችን
      I believe you are equating GiE with ኢሠፓአኮ which was not a party but አደራጅ ኮሚሽን for the formation of ኢሠፓ. As we all remember, members of the commission became ኢሠፓ members.
      Any mechanism in place to prevent the formation of ኤርትራዊ ኢሠፓ from GiE.

      • haileTG

        Hey Guad Abi,

        I believe and hope so. Even if I have reasons to believe that, saay would be the right person to clarify. I don’t want to run ahead of the train – wink 🙂

        • Abi

          ኃይላችን
          Sorry, wrong number. I will call chairman of the አደራጅ ኮሚሽን::

          • haileTG

            This is ERITEL – Sorry…all numbers are busy, we are currently busy organizing withdrawal from our own border areas 🙂

          • Hashela

            Haile TG

            This is exactly the topics that should be discussed. The Achille’s heel of PFDJ is its elastic handling and dealing with sovereign Eritrean territories.
            The statement of the Ethiopian PM and the silence of the IA regime is worrying. This is where the oppositions should capitalize on instead being a servile TPLF lackey

          • haileTG

            Hashela

            I agree with what you said, except the last point was unnecessary, borderline emotional:)

          • Hashela

            Haile

            It is Sunday, a bit of emotion should be allowed 🙂

          • haileTG

            Haha….Hashela, on your point of “worrying silence”, my theory is that there is something with being/considering to be Eritrean government and silence. Most Eritrean opposition would talk deafeningly on social media. By comparison GiE seems to be silent too. Food for thought:)

          • Hashela

            Haile

            ራዛ ናይ ኣብኡ ሓዛ!
            What do you expect, if GiE is mainly composed of ELF/EPLF remnants.

          • Abi

            ኃይላችን + Hashela
            Since GiE just come out of the shell, you expect more chirping than silence.

          • Abi

            ኃይላችን
            Good one!
            I noticed your demons are being released on the right direction !
            HTG 1
            Guad Abi 0 half time.

            Will be back after recharging.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam ወንድም ኣማች

        “I believe you are equating GiE with ኢሠፓአኮ which was not a party but አደራጅ ኮሚሽን for the formation of ኢሠፓ. As we all remember, members of the commission became ኢሠፓ members. Any mechanism in place to prevent the formation of ኤርትራዊ ኢሠፓ from GiE”

        I don’t know much about the history of ኢሠፓአኮ and ኢሠፓ but from what I understood from your comment, you hit the nail in the head. You’re absolutely right. And let me explain why

        Well, you can say whatever you want say about the Eritrean Defense Forces but from the look of it, the Eritrean intelligence services have traveled deep into the heartland of Tigray and have acquired/obtained a lot of sensitive classified information. And if you want believe the juicy stories that are floating in the cyber-world, the Eritrean intelligence agents are talking; and their low level operatives a spilling the beans.

        Among many other things it reveals – (mind you, it is still to be authenticated and it has still to pass the test of scrutiny):

        A. – The names of the leaders of the Eritrean Government in Exile (EGiE) – who are selected to lead post Isaias Eritrea

        B. – It lists the names of the leaders who were selected to lead post Abiy government in Ethiopia

        C. – It claims the existence of documents that reveal meeting, agendas of discussion, names of attendees, minutes of the discussions that took place in Mekele to make regime change possible on both nations

        D. – It claims the existence of documents that reveal Western involvement on the regime change project – in Eritrea and Ethiopia

        E. – It claims that the plan was to create a Woyane Oromo dominated government that completely marginalizes the Amara elite and people

        F. – It claims the plan was Tigray Killil to stretch way past Humera/Wolqait region – through the Western Belt of Ethiopia, all the way to Beshangul and to the borders of Oromia. And on the Northern Front the Tigrean Killil government was to have a complete authority over the Red Sea, its islands and its coastal waters.

        And on a lighter note, if the existence of the claimed documents are true, it makes a perfect sense, why Saleh Younis is talking about the Government in Exile confidently, forcefully, and assertively.

        Now, say few words, in 2-3 lines what people are saying on the Ethiopian side of the cyber-world.

        Semere Tesfai

        • Hashela

          Selamat Semere

          With regard to the point outlined in Section F.
          It is confirmed in the infamous Tigray manifesto and the
          map that surfaced in 2015, showing Tigray stretching down to the new dam.

        • Abi

          ወንድም አማች
          Some years back when the number of Eritreans crossing the border towards Ethiopia was the highest, Haile TG said “ the Ethiopian security forces are cleaning them”or something like that in relation to obtaining sensitive information from the refugees particularly from the military officials.
          Now, if the Eritrean security forces with active participation and unlimited assistance by their Ethiopian counterparts failed to get important information regarding the Eritrean opposition and other pertinent issues, then, they are absolute failures.
          I have no doubt in my mind that they achieved all or majority of what you enumerated above.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Can you please dig out the infamous TPLF map that shows Tigray stretching down to the Millennium Dam. As a test balloon, the map surfaced somewhen in ?2015

          • Abi

            Hashela
            Sorry buddy, I refrain to dig out something buried six feet under with Siyoum Mesfin, Inc.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Even not for archeological purposes?

          • Abi

            Hashela
            You know I have to unwrap some body to retrieve it. Right?

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hashela

            “Can you please dig out the infamous TPLF map that shows Tigray stretching down to the Millennium Dam. As a test balloon, the map surfaced somewhen in ?2015”

            1. – Just Google “Map of Greater Tigray” and you will see it in green the whole Western belt of Ethiopia – from Humera Region all the way to Emperor Haileselassie’s Ilibabur or bordering with today’s Southern Nations and Nationalities Killil and Oromia Regions> And add to that Eritrean territories South of Idi – Assab and all the Islands on the Assab Region – making it the largest Killil in Ethiopia.

            2. – This is what I learned from google. Look at the map of Haileselassie’s Tigray; drop the map of Tigray south as a free fall; and that is where the high plateaus of Ethiopia and the dense concentration of the Ethiopian population are. The Eastern, South-Eastern, and Western Ethiopia areas are sparsely populated – like 50-100 people per square kms. The difference is Western Ethiopia is very fertile land. And that’s why the Woyanes were on a land grab spree in Western Ethiopia.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            ንጉሥ አብይ ቀሚሳቸውን በልካቸው አሰፍቶላቸዋል:: ቀሚሳቸው ረዝሞ ከሚደነቃቀፉ መቀነታቸውን ጠበቅ አርገው አስረው በወጉ እንዲራመዱ ይረዳቸዋል::
            ( ቀሚሳቸው ጎዳና ሃርነት ነው የተሰፋው የሚል ውሸት አንድ ሰሞን ሲናፈስ ነበር )

            ” ከስስታም አንድ ያንቀው አንድ ይወድቀው” ይላሉ ዘመዶችህ::

        • saay7

          Semere:

          Oh my god. You really continue to disappoint with your inability to learn anything in the last 50 years. So tomorrow, if they show you, on EriTV somebody confessing to all this you will believe it and repeat it?

          The GiE idea was floated in February and the Abiy/Isaias duo occupied Mekele in Nov 30. It took them two months to find this cache of documents that lives in your head? And, wait, the guy who wrote about it, that Saleh Younis dude, waited two months?

          I know what the game here: it’s the same tired game (the only game you know): anything that has a potential to bring an end to the worst government in the world must be tainted by Weyane CIA Jihad. I was going to say disappointed but I really am not: just because someone can compose his writing well doesn’t mean he has any sense of logic or reasoning particularly is he is an avowed sectarian like you.

          Dear Awate moderators: you have by now seen what the agenda these useless people who clutter our discussion are up to. They are counting on your endless patience.

          saay

          • haileTG

            Hi saay,

            The GiE idea was floated in February! That is what would call an idea its time has come. In mere less than eight weeks, it is reverberating far and wide across the Eritrean political landscape, including PFDJista and extremists are throwing their punches at it. I can’t recall any other political event in our sphere that spread far and wide in such a short time. I hope we all reflect on that and ask why.

          • saay7

            Haile TG

            Thats why Semere Tesfai, the biggest fan of the murderous Isaias Afwerki, came up with disinformation that is not FLOATING ANYWHERE, except in his head, to float as a trial baloon here.

            This way or that the GiE will happen this year.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Professor Saay7,

            I couldn’t find a better place to say hello. By the way, sorry for not getting back to you quickly enough to say do not worry about me.

          • saay7

            Fanti Ghana:

            ክላእ: እስኻ ድኣ መርሓባ: ብሰላም ምጻእ: ነዚ ዓቢ ሰብ ዝበቅዕ መአንግዶ ከነጻፍፍ እንተ ተበልና ከም መርዓት ትሓፍር ? ገዲፍናዮ ሕጂስ! 🙂

            But seriously, welcome. The battle in the Horn of Africa is between citizens and subjects so we will need you. ሰጋእ ሰጋእ ይትረፍካ!

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. You say ‘reverberating far and wide across the Eritrean political landscape’? Even more so than GIE failed attempts back in 2002 & 2008? Can you guide me to at least 2 opposition websites with more than 15 active posters where the GIE is being actively discussed? Thanks.

          • haileTG

            Dongolo,

            As you know, except for AT, all Eritrean opposition communication infrastructures have all moved to social media – Youtube, facebook and twitter. GiE has been and continued to be discussed with tens of thousands watching/participating at a time in such social media. I am impressed with your attempt to pull the wool from the eyes by asking websites instead of social media. But I am seasoned and hardened at PFDJ’s third rate smart aleck. Nice try. On the flip side of the coin, western intervention follows two rules time and again:

            1 – the target is weakened with sanctions in the prior years (its screws are loosened)

            2 – Accused of WMD or intense/large scale human rights violations.

            …then intervention is authorized.

            Guess who is in line??

            Now think GiE…

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. ‘PFDJ’s third rate smart aleck’? You guys are blinded with hate of PIA & PFDJ. I have not made a single comment -zero- nada in support of the PIA/PFDJ post 2001. A major weakness that your group has is that you totally alienate large numbers of those who genuinely desire regime change in Eritrea.

          • saay7

            Hi Dongolo:

            This is what Haile TG means by your “third rate”: it’s a well known technique of the departed and the soon to be departed to say oh you are blinded by IA/PFDJ (to dismiss us as irrational) to spend 100% of their time denigrating the opposition and then to say “oh but I am not PFDJ or IA: I have never said anything in support of them.” There are those who are proud PFDJ/ NNNN defective types and there there is types like you who think you are a lot smarter than you are. Mention one single time where you have criticized the useless Isaias and his party. At least some of the pruned were clever enough to pretend they were saddened by the atrocities the people are subjected to.

            We are on to you. Do NOT pretend you have the pulse on the people. You don’t. You are just a man driven by his fears and his prejudices and we really really shouldn’t indulge people like you. Because every moment spent discussing your inane accusations is a moment less spent to enrich and improve what we are working on.

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. All I can say is that’s you are very wrong. Ask Berhe Y, If you do not believe me. I have even outlined a strategy to to hold the PIA/PFDG regime more accountable via the U.N.; he knows as he was the ONLY person to make a comment.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Saay7. I believe that I was clear in regard to Eritrea’s governance 5 days back:

            5 days ago
            ‘Selam Simon Kaleab. Military/rebel based dictatorships exceeding 10 years duration, much less 30, are a guaranteed recipe for disaster. Given that said, we still have a sovereign State of Eritrea and I will forever be grateful to our fighters.’

          • saay7

            Dongolo:

            When you were directly challenged by Simon, so as not to low you cover, a trick perfected by all the PFDJ sleeper cells. Otherwise 99% of what you write about is the Eritrean opposition, when 99% of Eritreans problem is the regime in Eritrea.

            Hint: that’s the first clue with you PFDJ sleeper cells. The other is when you pretend you represent the viewpoint of the Eritrean majority. There are others but that will for now.

            saay

          • Dongolo

            Selam saay7. There is no secret that I have been very critical of the Eritrean opposition’s strategy, for which is well expressed in my below emails to Hashela and Berhe Y. I have added for reference another email to all regarding leveraging the U.N. to apply pressure on the PIA/PFDJ regime (this following an earlier more detailed strategy paper to Berhe Y).

            It is obvious that I am not going to change your incorrect views that I am PFDJ even though I have before several times blasted the PIA/PFDJ regime, especially in regards to imprisonment of minors. I know that I can be abnoxious and insulting but you are completely wrong in labeling me as PFDJ. Anyways, its your game, and if you are looking for complete conformity of opinion and strategy, I’m obviously not your guy. No need for your heavy brush, I will make it easy for you and leave on my own accord.

            I leave you and all others with the sincere wish that peaceful regime change in Eritrea comes soon, that prisoners are quickly released and that some semblance of normality quickly returns……blue skies all day long for Eritrea and her people……

            24 days ago
            Selam Berhe Y. Some time back, it became clear to me that many of the permanent fixtures here clearly do not wish to entertain any thoughts or ideas on how to achieve much needed reform/accountability of the PIA/PFDJ regime for they are only Interested in its complete replacement/usurpation and they will use any means, however wrong or treacherous it may be, to achieve their aim. At least to me, this total close door attitude seems much motivated by old war scores rather than pragmatism. For example how practical is it for diaspora Eritrean opposition members who have been abroad for some 40 years and are largely stained by old party politics or TPLF complacency, to march back into Asmara, with the assistance of outside power(s)? How accepted would such a group be even if they were to find a way back in? I remain convinced that Eritrean change can only occur from within.
            As you know, whenever in the past I have taken time to recommend ideas/strategies on how to exert pressure on the PIA/PFDJ regime to be more accountable, it has been met (save for comments from yourself – thanks in this regard!) with complete silence only for myself to shortly thereafter be erroneously cast as a PFDJ member/supporter.
            I too desperately wish to see much needed change in Eritrean Governance but there are some things that I will never do (i.e. risking Eritrea’s sovereignty, treason, deriding Eritrean soldiers, etc) and I am certainly not willing to wash dirty clothes in public with the unscrupulous who have no qualms in doing so.

            3 months ago
            Selam Hashela. Certainly, the Eritrean opposition (that which has been sympathetic to the TPLF) must now retool and reboot its strategy to be inline with today’s reality and concentrate solely on matters at home. The Badme/TPLF centered conflict is certainly no longer an obstacle to peace in Eritrea and It is therefore time for this opposition segment to truly push on the root causes of the extreme human rights abuses in Eritrea that has caused hundreds of thousands to flee; they need to immediately solely concentrate on PIA and not on PMAA or Ethiopia, for continuing to do so breeds mistrust and casts them as protectors of a dead TPLF horse.

            2 months ago
            Selam all. Instead of spending a majority of time legitimizing the TPLF, hammering PMAA and rehashing old ELF/EPLF bad blood tales, efforts should now in large part, center on pressuring the U.N., notably the U.N. Emergencies Management Group & ISC at Geneva/HQ level, and also specialized U.N. agencies now working inside of Eritrea, to truly be accountable for their mandate and lack of action as it pertains to Eritrea and Eritreans. Major donors that are supporting U.N. agencies in Eritrea should also be held accountable and reportable for pathetically poor U.N. performance and accountability in Eritrea. Holding the U.N. accountable and reportable for their actions, or lack of progress thereto in Eritrea, will assist in holding the PIA/PFDJ regime accountable and publicly expose their shortcomings to the international arena. If the U.N. finds it impossible to perform their mandate in Eritrea (as surely is the case) they then need to have the strength to clearly detail their case. The U.N. RCO’s office in Eritrea should not simply be allowed to exist while performing no real function.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Saa7

            1. – “Oh my god. You really continue to deteriorate with your inability to learn anything in the last 50 years. So tomorrow, if they show you, on EriTV somebody confessing to all this you will believe it and repeat it? How old are you, 12?
            Dear Awate moderators: you have by now seen what the agenda these useless people who clutter our discussion are up to. They are counting on your endless patience. Do not treat things the way you have been: they are betting on it”

            Saleh: You don’t need to be defensive. You don’t have to take it personal. You don’t need to threaten, disrespect, ridicule, insult me. You can Nitricc me anytime – If what you wanted is to silence me.

            2. – “The GiE idea was floated (by me, no Weyane lover) in February and the Abiy/Isaias duo occupied Mekele in Nov 30. It took them two months to find this cache of documents that lives in your head? And, wait, the guy who wrote about it, that Saleh Younis dude, waited for two months?”

            Fact: prior to Woyane’s attack on the Ethiopian Northern Command on November 2020, Mesfin Hagos, Tesfai Degiga, Muhyedin Shengeb and many others – former ELF-EPLF fighters – who are allegedly members of the current GiE, made public statements and interviews stating that it is perfectly OK for Eritrean opposition organizations

            A. – To form a coalition of the willing to fight the PFDJ regime

            B. – To defeat the PFDJ government militarily (through violence)

            C. – Align and coordinate their fight with any enemies of the PFDJ regime including the Woyanes.

            D. – To that end, Mesfn Hagos personally announced his public-trip to Mekele representing the coalition, and gave public interview when he returned back from Mekele, explaining the success of his trip.

            Now, explain to me: why would you need the concept of GiE if the whole calculation for success was to walk to Asmara riding Woyane tanks?

            The Eritrean people have
            A. – Have seen and heard the leaders want-to-be post Isaias Eritrea –

            B. The Eritrean people knew full well they are former ELF and EPLF leaders

            C. – The Eritrean people New from where they where coming, and how they were going to get to Asmara

            Again, please explain to me the rational to have GiE prior to the demise of the Woyane – January 2021?

            2. – “I know what the game here: it’s the same tired game (the only game you know): anything that has a potential to bring an end to the worst government in the world must be tainted by Weyane CIA Jihad.”

            Saleh: if the GiE happens to be a reality – which it won’t be -somebody is going to

            A. – Collect the two-dozen members of the GiE from the streets of the USA, Europe and Australia

            B. – Board them into a military airplane, land them in Asmara and

            C. – protect them in some “Green Zone” to govern the nation.

            Who do you think that’s going to be? You know the GiE people don’t have legs to stand on

            Semere Tesfai

          • saay7

            Semere:

            I didn’t read anything of what you wrote because I assume, based on your history here, it is crap, wrapped inside flim-flam, with a garbage bow. Always delivered with absolute certainty (but, but, but) about things he picked up from PFDJ junkyard where he resides.

            Ayirdae’ka

            saay

      • Haile S.

        ጀታው፡

        የድሮው ዘፈን ኣስታወስከኝ።
        ኢሰፓኣኮ
        ልዩ ተልእኮ
        ሶሻሊስቶችን ገንቢ
        ኮሚኒስቶችን ሰብሳቢ….

        • Abi

          መምህር
          I don’t remember any ግንባታ only ግምቢ!

    • Bayan Negash

      MerHaba HaileTG,

      I appreciate the clarity with which you express your ideas. Perhaps, I should’ve made a stronger connection between Transcendentalism and the ELF/EPLF model as schools of thought. I didn’t because I thought it would be surmised from the piece as the immediate paragraph following transcendantalism was about the looking back to Ethiopia when in 1940s and now looking back to Tigray. Who knows what event will occupy us in the future. Then, too, will we be looking at something else. That’s what I wanted delineated. The initiative has the pulse in the right place. ELF/EPLF should be the past we look back to.

      Allow me a tongue-in-cheek question a Tigrayan friend posed to a number of Eritreans. This is way before the current situation. It goes something like this: You Eritreans have been saying if only we get rid of the Italians, that came to pass. Then, if only we can get rid of the English, that came to pass. If only we can get rid of Haile Selassie, the Dergue, now the current occupant, we are saying the same thing. The answer to this truism lies in the ELF/EPLF initiative. That’s the genius in it and let us use it. Our past as far as where we draw our inspiration for our national project should never go beyond the ELF/EPLF legacy. Let us honor its successes curses and its failures, but honor it no less. We have no business in looking back at the Dergue, Haile Selassie, the English, the Italians, what have you? These were occupiers. They have nothing to offer us as far as our national inspirations go at this particular junction as we try to rid ourselves from the menace at home. The success of the revolutionary war does. The rest of the occupiers belong in our history books, in our literature, etc. They are the relic of the past that should strengthen our resolve to keep Eritrea in tact, but at this junction we don’t need them. They are not the ones who are occupying Eritreans and Eritrea. The monster of our making is. Let us get rid of him and his associates. But we must makes sure it doesn’t get replaced by another menace far worse than him.

      So, kbur HaileTG, what I tried to say in the article stems from the initiative. However, it cannot be limited to those two inspirational historical markers. These are our fuel, our legacies, let us draw inspirations from them. But we must be receptive and broaden our scope in accepting others who have been working hard to move the needle of the movement in the opposition. What Sinit, for example, had done is a marvelous work that the entity that has yet to be formed, the GiE, can use. The documents that they have prepared for the very thing that we are discussing now is readily available for the taking. Let people have their say if they have some concrete things that they can offer. Then, the GiE can decide what it can use and it can’t. But the participation of others cannot be done without.

  • Brhan

    Merhaba Dr. Beyan

    Thank you for your article. It is well written and has touched theories using comparative approach and a case or study that relate to the subject.

    The case, being , the ይኣክል / كفاية (YIAKL) movement, as a possible third thought for GiE is also significant.

    YIAKL movements have become significant in our communities. Though 2020 was tough for the movements, due to COVID 19, they were able to fundraise and help our refugees in the Sudan ( unable to do the same in Ethiopia due to war in Tigray).

    The idea of GiE, particularly “the why” reflects their objectives. It can be a priority project in their timetables.

    “Our Eritrean thinker Saleh Younis ,” said Dr. Awet Weldemichael “ has presented a brilliant idea: ብርቂ ሓሳብ”. This brilliant idea came at the right time. Soon we and the activities of YIAKEL movements will be back to our normal with the vaccinations and more knowledge of public health protocols. Abshru!

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Brhan,

      The question of Yiakel came as an example as to why it shouldn’t be included. There are many more movements that can be included. But the central theme that the initiative is trying to do has to do with our need for going to the drawing board not reignite ELF/EPLF dichotomy but to use it as a jumping off point because each and every Eritrean worth his salt has a relative far and near who paid the ultimate price. Therefore, owning that legacy, the good, the bad, and the ugly and challenging those who wanted the benefit of the recognition to be called Eritreans yet refusing to give credit to the revolutionaries who brought them the country will not cut it is what needs to be surmised.

      So, Brhan, when I was answering using Yiakel, the sources I used did not come from their documents. The only one I know to date who’d done extensive work in this regard is Sinit. And that’s where I borrowed my quotes. That’s where I borrowed my ideas and expressed them as I deemed them fit. So, be it Yiakel and many other movements need to focus their attention in deliberately choosing the ghedli era fighting spirit and anything else that they can draw from each of the revolutionary organizations.

      Many thanks for your principled response.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Beyan Negash,,

    I read it once,, I normally read 3 times. It seems to me that we are going toward a failed project which is full of revenge very wrong history. That ELF and EPLF are already history. None of them are in reality. For me it is already over and that will not come back..And be sure the crime of EPLF is even gone to Ethiopia and burned everything..

    TPLF was already with EPLF in their high days 1980 and has destroyed ELF the same of as current days exactly the same is going on with those groups in Ethiopia. Where are those EPLF great fighters Almost all are dead killed by their master and burning in containers. But few are present in their old days.

    Now, I don’t want to demoralize. and on this Say7 project but just a talk ” Hlemi Derho ” as once said it and just go and read my poem.

    I don’t see the political solution will bring peace in horn in general and in Eritrea in particular. Depending our history is not to help us. It is a fresh spiritual journey that will be a root solution and that will be the only solution- One love is the way out. Just watch carefully and listen to you own heart. I said it before in Jebena and I will also repeat it now and in the future – to be united is our job for every negative actions.

    KS,,

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam KS,
      How wonderful to hear from you. There is no such thing as Hilmi derma in Eritreans when it comes fighting. I am going to elaborate on some of the ideas that are discouraging you. Allow me to collect my thoughts or I may address the issues that you raise here as I respond to many others. I am barely now starting from the beginning to read and reply. I truly appreciate you, KS.

      stay tuned, please

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear brother Beyan Negash,

        I am still waiting to read your reply.

        Best Regards,

        KS,,

  • Abi

    Hello Bayan Negash
    I haven’t read your article yet. However, from the little information I gathered from the front page image, I’m definitely safe to conclude that your penetrating pen has successfully broken the egg. Now we have a breathing, walking, squeaking ጫጩት!!!
    For those people who do not pay attention, the image on the previous article was a healthy egg.

    • Bayan Negash

      kibret yihabellay Haw Abi,

      Looking forward to your biting observation on the article itself. Meanwhile, many thanks for making the connection between the accompanying images of this to the previous pieces on the same subject. Artful observation, indeed!

      • Abi

        Hello Bayan
        All credits go to the genius behind the imaginative artists at the Faculty of Arts and Design, Awate University.
        In rare occasions you judge a book by its cover.

        • Haile S.

          Good morning Abi,

          Good to see ጀታው interested in the picture. I read brother Beyan’s articke. It is የሸንኮር ኣገዳ (ቃንጫ ሽኮር). The more you bite, the more you get of the delucious juice. Therefore, I will continue to bite for now. But as usual my demon is turning my head towards the image.

          Phew! So many things to say. You covered the chicken part of the story. BTW why is the chick standing on unhatched egg? Let me stay out of trouble by not interpreting it. Good to see ERITREA is getting out of the dark waters with the right refractive index. Its olive tree is in fruition, never seen before. And most importantly GiE has morphed to GiS. We are no more in Exile, we are in-Standing! I see great omen in all this.

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile

            Please help to interpret the red and black color in the cover of the article. I wonder whether the seat of GIS will be in Angola.

          • Haile S.

            Morning Hashela,

            Funny😁, but am I going to teach physics to the physicist? Doesn’t red appear black when in water and seen from an angle?

          • Hashela

            Haile

            You mean that the GIS is completely absorbing all incoming light ( solar radiation) and thus it appears black?

          • Haile S.

            Hashela,
            Absolutely! You see the beauty of art! Our retinas retain different things of what they see.

          • Hashela

            Haile

            The nature and consequence of all absorbing, massive celestial body is that there is no reflection and defraction of incoming solar radiation. For ever trapped, no escape.

          • Abi

            መምህር
            Today is Sunday and more importantly it is አብይ ፆም. My overactive demons have been contained for part of the day. Now that they see other demons are out and about, they are joining the army.
            I’m so happy that the hatching ground is not አረንጓዴ ቢጫ ቀይ as one astute observer mentioned below.
            As you have already observed, the chick is triumphantly standing on the other egg. As nature dictates, some nests have room only for one chick. Survival of the fittest kind of thing.
            (my demons are reactivated because of you)

        • Bayan Negash

          Hey Abi, Haile S., Hashela and all,

          Time for a marathon! See how much I can run with my fingers to read and respond.

          Indeed, the image does orient the reader when ideas birth other ideas. Just as his Negarit rooster’s cock-a-doodle-doo announces a new day is dawning, here too, apparently, his rooster can crow and is able to populate as well. A wonderful metaphor for where the initiative in question is headed – toward a discourse of sorts that would eventually bring the people into something bigger than themselves.

          • Abi

            Hello Bayan
            “ኩኩሉ አለ ዶሮ
            ምን ሊሰማ ይሆን ጆሮ –ዘንድሮ
            ለካስ ሊነጋ ነው
            ኩኩሉ ሲል የሰማነው”
            የብዙዬ ዘፈን ነው

            Wish you all the best.
            ጫጩቶቹ ይደጉ!

          • Bayan Negash

            What can I say, your recollection of music and the quick connections you make to them is incredible. I read your welcoming Fanti in which you used Tsegaye Eshetu’s song from the memory bank. Good to see you reappear, Fanti. Guess, what I did after your response to Fanti. I went straight to ውብሸት ግርማ – አንቺ ቅናተኛ (ፀጋዬ እሸቱ) የሚያስደንቅ ብቃት!! Woubeshet Girma – Anchi Kinategna (Tsegaye Eshetu). Woubeshet did an excellent job in this one.

            Guess what I am going to do now at this ungodly hour, close to 3 am PST, I will seek out Bizunesh’s ኩኩሉ አለ ዶሮ
            ምን ሊሰማ ይሆን ጆሮ –ዘንድሮ. It is only three hours or so before the rooster crows for the dawning of a new day.
            Thank you, Abi

          • Abi

            Good morning Bayan

            ያ ዶሮዬ ጮኸ መንጋቱን ነገረኝ
            በዛሬ ቀን ላርደው ቀጠሮ ነበረኝ
            ( ታገል ሰይፉ)
            Thank you for the nice words. As you see, just like you I like music ( ዘፈን ድሮ ቀረ!) . I know you got a very refined taste for music. I also know you like ቴዎድሮስ ምትኩ::

            አንቺ ቅናተኛ ቅናት አታልምጂኝ
            በሌለኝ አመሌ ከሰው አፍ አታግቢኝ
            ለራሴ ነው እንጂ ላንቺ ስል ቅን አልሆን
            ደርሰሽ አትንደጂ በሚሆን በማይሆን

            Now let me find ውብሸት ግርማ play this song.

          • Bayan Negash

            Good morning Abi,

            እሹሩሩ is one that readily comes to mind when it comes to ቴዎድሮስ ምትኩ who was (RIP) fantastic instrumentalist. I know SGJ is not fond of saxophones. How about jump ship and go to Maritu Legese Ambasel. Better yet, let’s take our genius artist to the queen of Bati
            ማሪቱ ለገሰ. Now, that’s Amharic song at its best.

          • Abi

            Bayan
            The problem with SGJ is that he is not sophisticated enough to enjoy saxophone. The other Saleh thinks he is a little too sophisticated to appreciate Ambasel much less ንግሥት ማሪቱ ::
            ቴዲ was the absolute best . I remember you invited us አማሌሌ by አሊ ቢራ / አልማዝ by ማህሙድ. I believe your efforts fell on deaf ears.