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UAE Air Force Kills an Eritrean Fisherman and Wounds Six

Fighter planes belonging to the United Arab Emirates air force based in Assab, Eritrea, has killed Idris Redyo, and wounded six other fishermen.Only a trainee child in the boat escaped the UAE air force bullets.

The fishermen’s boat was attacked in an area about eight kilometers off the fishing port of Eddi, close to the rocky islet of Abael in the Red Sea.

Generally, Afari fishing boats are jointly owned and operated by relatives; two of the wounded are the brothers of the killed fisherman.

The latest bombing is one in a chain of bombings in which Afari fishermen were victims.

The UAE maintains a base in a shore close to the port of Assab in the southeastern part of Eritrea, a short distance from the borders with the state of Djibouti.

The base serves the allied forces under the Saudi led ‘Decisive Storm’ operation which has decimated Yemeni cities in its fight against the rebel Houthi forces. The war has caused serious humanitarian catastrophe in Yemen.

The war is between the Yemeni Houthis and their allies (forces loyal to ex-president Ali Abdellah Saleh) on one side, and Yemeni forces loyal to president Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi, who is supported by the allied forces of Decisive Storm, on the other side.

Inhabitants of the coastal regions of Eritrea who are dependent on traditional fishing for their livelihood are rarely remembered as victims of the war. The last bombing of the fishing boats is the latest in a chain of bombing carried out by the UAE air force in the Red Sea under the watch of the Eritrean government.

In the bombing of last week, “it was their fellow Afari fishermen who came to the rescue of the victims and carried the wounded and dead to the shores, and then to Assab for medical attention, not the Eritrean government,” according to a relative of the beleaguered family.

Houthi speed boats have attacked the UAE base at least twice since the beginning of the year; to prevent such attacks, the UAE air force frequently flies fixed wing and helicopter gunships to patrol the Red Sea. Many times, it ends up hitting civilian Eritrean or Yemeni boats.

Last March, the Guardian reported, “At least 42 Somali refugees were killed off the coast of Yemen … when a helicopter reportedly attacked the boat they were travelling in.”

The boat carried refugees with UN documents travelling from Yemen to Sudan when they were “attacked by an Apache helicopter near the Bab el-Mandeb strait.”

In a statement issued today, the Red Sea Afar Democratic Organization (RSADO) said, “People have no freedom of movement to make a living. Thousands of Afar civilians have systematically disappeared, kidnapped and imprisoned and their properties and businesses confiscated by the repressive Eritrean regime. They are now living under unprecedented economic and social hardship, political and social injustice and gross human rights violations imposed on them by the regime.”

The statement added, “The Red Sea Afar are the victim of human rights abuses and politically and economically motivated persecution by the regime as well by Foreign States and Multinational foreign Corporations.”

The Gulf military presence in Dankalia has added to the hardship of the local population who have suffered for many years due to the presence of huge Eritrean and armed opposition armies from neighboring countries that it supports. A leader of RSADO said, “our people hardly have enough water and other resources for themselves and their animals and the armies are consuming the lion’s share of the scarce resources.”

Gedab News also learned that, “about 300 hundred Sudanese military support personnel are stationed in the UAE base near Assab.”

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  • KBT

    Selamat
    Please stop your propaganda her. We know a knew narrative now somehow the people of Eritrea voted by fear
    In fact it expose the woyane intention to deny us our independence,ABAY TIGRAY IS DEAD AND TPLF WILL BE DEAD SOON why would we want to be ruled by those who are beneath us 30 years of war ,every family has gave a martyrdom for Eritrea and telling us that the people was afraid what dummy ,they already gave theirs lives for god sake .
    We don’t want you stay in the other side of mereb until we got money so we can build a wall .

  • Thomas

    Hi Abi, Horrizon, Mt. Girm and other Ethiopians,

    This whole Ethiopian nationality qualifications started when I happen to state that “I wish I was born as an Ethiopian”. Peace said you guys are working hard to return my Ethiopian nationality. As it turns out from the discussion, I have learned that there is no way I can keep my Ethiopian nationality as dual nationality is forbidden in Ethiopia. Well, I got to tell you, I am very disappointed to see things turnout to be this way. You should have told Peace and Me that things will end up this way:) I as Abi suggested, I have now watching the movie called, “torn between two lovers”

    • Peace!

      Hi Thomas,

      I thought you have been admitted to a “lousy Ethiopians (ጎንደሬዎች) group” (Abi’s description of awatista Ethiopians). It is good that now you have Abi, Horizon, mizan and others on your side, and hopefully the identity confusion you have been suffering will come to an end very soon.

      ሓውካ
      Peace!

      • Thomas

        Hi Peace,

        Is this how you are supposed to treat me? All I was doing is help you to get back to your beautiful mama Ethiopia. I am sorry if that is not enough for you, I might as well have to stop my support to you. I got to tell you made things difficult for yourself when you start representing the Gonderye and Oromo people. I know you wanted to see your former country Ethiopia get back on her foot again but that was NOT the right move from you because you just miscalculated the time. It is ok, Eritreans are very accommodating, we will have you stay in our nation as a second citizen. You see we will never give up on you:)

        • Peace!

          Hi Thomas,

          The next step to complete your naturalization is you need to open your mind for Arab/Islamophobia doctrine ( hint: read Abi’s comments as much as you can) in that way, when you mention Eritrea, you will be on the same page with የኣፄዎች ኣሽከር. Forget Eritrea for now, just stick to the process.

          Peace!

  • Abraham H.

    Hi Horizon, yes, renouncing one’s citizenship is a natural right of an individual. But don’t forget we are talking about the Eritrean regime to which human rights are not in its vocabulary. When I was granted my naturalized citizenship, I was told I was also Eritrean, and the govt that granted me the new citizenship would not guarantee my safety and security should I come in trouble in Eritrea. I was told that the Eritrean regime doesn’t let its citizens to renounce their citizenship; not that I wanted that but that is the practice of the regime.
    The dilemma would then be how could the Ethiopian gov grant Eritrean citizens the Ehiopian citizenship if they are not allowed to be released by the Eritrean gov?

    • mt girm

      Selam Abrham,
      Did the Eritrean GoV. Issue a passport and a birth certificate Yet!

      • Abraham H.

        Hi mt girm, birth certificate is being issued, that I’m sure about; passport, however, remains to be reserved for the regime officials, those with regime connections, the preivileged ones, etc.

        • mt girm

          Selam Abraham,
          From what I have heard, This new policy is going to be very good for Eritreans.(this is from a person in the gov.) Some of it is because of western pressure to keep people from coming to there country.

          • Mez

            Good Day Mt Girm,

            There is nothing to gain from cursing private citizens of Eritrea in Ethiopia; granting them every possible opportunity shall have a blessing impact in their social interaction; and a good driver in the economic growth for Ethiopia. These are young people from almost all cross section of the country.
            The government of Ethiopia shall say: ” you best brightest, and young Eritreans; YOU WELCOME ANY TIME ”

            I would think three mega industrial parks (in Humera, Mekele, Semera), each with intake capacity of 50,000 would encourage even people like Nitricc go over there and give a shot.

            That way Isaiyas will focus exclusively on gold mining…
            Thanks

          • mt girm

            Selam Mez,
            The Ethiopian gov. Realizes its mistakes and Is changing course without losing face. The west has also contributed greatly to this coming change.

          • Mez

            Dear Mt Girm,

            There is more to it,
            think Deeper pleace.

            I am tied up now. I will come back after a while. ..

            Thankd

          • mt girm

            Selam Mez,
            ‘I’m the captain of my soul'(Timothy James McVeigh)

    • Selam Abraham H.,

      The eritrean government has jurisdiction over you as long as you are in the eritrean territory and not when you are outside eritrea, and carrying a foreign passport. You are under the protection of another government, the usa or ethiopian government, unless you want otherwise. It will be similar to the way you got usa citizenship in ethiopia’s case too. The eritrean regime is not the lifetime owner of the eritrean people, wherever they may find themselves.

  • Dis Donc

    Dear paulus,
    I had seen somewhere your nuclear theory and wanted to share something about it. This time you have read well and that is to be admired. Please remember that I have no desire in winning argument but purely of showing where things came from.

    Take a hydrogen-2, or known as deuterium (with a neutron and a proton in its nuclei) atom, in a vacuum.* And for some reason the neutron and proton wanted to split and headed their own way. I am not sure how far you have gone with physics but if you remember energy conservation before and after.

    The before condition are
    1. Kinetic energy of the deuterium atom which is MC^2 where M is its mass, which is a function of its velocity. **
    2. The binding energy that held the neutron and proton together. Call that E.

    And the after condition will be
    1. The kinetic energy of the neutron mnC^2 and proton mpC^2. Where mn is mass of neutron and mp being mass of proton. Note that both are function of their respective velocities.

    Hence if you apply conservation of energy principle you will have to equal the sum of the energies before and after:
    MC^2 + E = mnC^2 + mpC^2
    When you solve this you will get that
    E = (mn + mp – M)C^2
    Which is E = ΔmC^2. Now remember that this is a very simplified version of it but it is much more complicated than this. Only the end result is the same.

    * Vacuum because we want to get rid of all possible other energies like thermal, light, and other contact.
    ** MC^2 is kinetic energy of fast moving particle with velocities of speed of light (known by its symbol as C) approximation. For slow moving objects their mass gets considered their rest mass (or mass while velocity equals zero) and their kinetic energy gets approximated as (mv^2)/2 which you all know.

    • Paulos

      Selam DD,

      I am afraid I am losing you. Not sure what you’re trying to say. In principle of course, energy is neither created nor destroyed. And any mass which is the energy [mass=energy] particularly the strong energy that is holding the particles with in the nucleus together makes up 99% of the mass. Now, everytime the mass moves, the mass is converted into energy. A resting mass has potential energy where in the classical sense, when the resting mass is moving, potential energy is converted into kinetic energy. Now, if you apply more force onto the mass, the rest of the mass will be converted to more energy. But, if you “make” the mass move upto the speed of light, the entire mass will be converted to energy where you “yield” the 99% energy of the mass. That is precisely what the famous equation is all about.

      P.S. The last time I took physics was when I was freshman, but I have read popular books on physics and astronomy which gave me basic ideas on the main issues.

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Paulus,
        I was expecting the subsequent natural question like: why the deuterium begin to disintegrate or how can you disintegrate it. Sorry to disappoint you but I thought you studied physics. I will not bother you again. Thanks for being civil.

        • Paulos

          No worries DD.

  • said

    Greetings
    A Sincere Admonition to the Saudis: STOP Going Down that Path!

    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a major Arab power ever since many decades in terms of economic, financial and, foremost, moral and religious power. It is holey places that happe to be in a country that represents a special place in the minds, hearts and the spirits of hundreds of millions of Muslim worshipers around the world directing their daily prayer five times a day towards Mecca; this, as one of the quintessential five tenets of Islam calls on Muslims to perform pilgrimage to the holy Islamic shrines situated on east of Saudi Arabia’s soils of the Hijaz’ region.
    It is by Obligation that comes with the exceptional moral and religious position the country, Saudi Arabia, represents, that a huge responsibility to cater for the peace and wellbeing of all Muslims, all the 1.6 billion Muslims around the Globe is especially placed on the shoulders of Saudi decision makers. However, as Charity starts at Home, the Saudis first and foremost are under the obligation to begin extending the arm of reconciliation towards its direct Arab and Muslim neighbors.
    Sadly, the current foreign policy course followed by the Saudi Authorities and since number of years is incongruous with the above obligation irrespective of where one first places the blame among the different antagonists engaged in warfare in the Middle East. Resorting to military means to settling some of the rising political disputes with neighboring Arab states Syria and Yemen to the extent, intensity, long duration and levels of destruction visited upon these countries and their generally impoverished mostly Muslim civilian populations should have never been carried out in the first place. This calls for a pause and introspection eliciting well-founded, long-observed Islamic and humanitarian values.
    One was hopeful belatedly while preparations were well underway to convening a Geneva Peace Conference to ending the wasteful and senseless six-year war in Syria in the aftermath of the Asitanah Conference held a few months ago in Istanbul to only be surprisingly reneged upon with the changing Saudi officials’ position and new heightened discourse calling for a military resolution to the endemic conflict in Syria. The Saudis appear to have been emboldened, rather misguided by the apparent election of Donald Trump to the White House.

    One need to Understanding Ayatollah Khamenei bloody revolution is very complex and Iran direct military interference in IRAQ affair and Syria civil war clearly obvious ,it have to do with American invasion of Iraq in 2003 that left vacuum of power in Bagdad and power handed to Iraq shia opposition group and Iran Shia zealot and fanatic school of thought, and Iran took advantage and fanatic Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) were instrumental in help in both country , As the guardian backbone of clergy regime security, the Guard have the supreme leader’s guaranteed full backing; as Iran’s zealot most potent military fanatic force, over 30 years it lays claim to far more hard battlefield experience and higher-tech equipment than the conventional and as a savvy political operator, it controls untold major vital of the national economy. The Guard leadership are first among equals in the constellation of power sharing centers that make up the Iranian government and Guard developed an extensive institutional apparatus power The Guard are for most Shia ideological military guardian entity . the IRGC’s mission of safeguarding Shia ideological and the Ayatollah Khomeini’s revolution. that centralized like Vatican operational top down Shi’a clergy have always enjoyed the support of local devotees who do their extreme bidding. Ayatollah Khomeini thus had an interest in uniting Shi’a clergy and their fanatic blind followers critical mass of these zealot militants under a single banner IRGC on one of the most important organisations in the Islamic Republic ,the fanatic Basij name is (Sazeman-e Basij-e Mostazafan, Organisation for the Mobilisation of the Oppressed) And state-financed militia The Basij zealot Resistance Force is a volunteer paramilitary organization operating under URGC and fought in the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq ,today Basij it carries out military fighting in Syria and training shai militia and surveillance, supervises public behaviour, runs trade and business . The Basij became the superstructure by which the impulse of pro-clerical activism was harnessed It legitimated this social and political function. today Basij are a combination of political party, business opportunist and Shia fanatic military organisation ,they work to suppress and control society. They are every where in Iran Tens of thousand Basij militia bases and offices and makeup majority of state employees. and millions of membership . the Basij answers to the office of Ayatollah Khamenei and clergy. given the sheer fanatic commitment of Basij members and Guard Corps . The Shia scholl indoctrination these people are really brainwashed and they can be reformed they are part and parcel of Iran markup of the state the Islamic Republic. Safavids Ayatollah Khamenei Shiite conceptions of divinity, Wale (agent) by which the ruler served as “the Shadow of God on earth similar concept Vatican and the pope. The BASIJ impressed upon it an incorruptible loyalty to the office of the supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei and would any thing to serve their Khamenei with absolute loyalty, sometimes even committing suicide if needed be, The Basij devotion to that system is indivisible. For this reason and above mentioned going to war with Iran is win situation.
    The direct interference of Iran and its Shai militia supporters of fascist Assad regime is major Couse of Syrian people suffering . Every day the war in Syria goes on, new innocent lives are wasted with desperate homeless refugees continuing to pouring to poorly equipped neighboring Arab countries or desperately, most shamefully, take, themselves and dependents to the hazardous high seas or the long march on foot trying to reach Western countries. The huge economic and security burdens the continuation of the war in Syria poses on Jordan and Lebanon in particular, two neighboring countries with millions of Syrian refugees pouring into their territories adding to pressures on these countries’ limited economic resources further calls for an immediate end to all military conflicts in the region.
    Iran and its Houthi militia support against legitimate government brought Yemen present civil war and brought direct Saudi into the war theater with end at sight . The Yemeni debacle with daily pounding by the superior Saudi Air Force of targets inside Yemen, a most impoverished region of the world; along with the imposition of a tight siege on Yemeni ports most seriously affecting the inflow of essential food, nutritional and medical supplies, going on since nearly two years, is causing, beside wide destructions, the continuing loss of innocent human lives. The intransigence and possible aggressiveness of some of the vying political factions in the ongoing power struggle between these different factions in Yemen ought not to be a reason for the pouring of oil on the fire by outside military intervention, especially given the magnitude, ferocity, extent and long duration of an incompatible conflict.
    However, the Yemenis of possibly all the neighboring Arab and generally Muslim states to Saudi Arabia are the closest to the Saudis in terms of geography, once shared territories and Saudis of Yemeni descent’s important contributions to the Saudi economic prosperity. The close brotherly Saudi-Yemeni relations go centuries back. Three of Saudi Arabia’s important Southern Provinces of Asir, Jizan and Nejran were once Yemeni territories before the Government of Yemen willfully agreed four decades ago to permanently recognize these Provinces as Saudi Territories.
    The continuing of the war in Yemen causing huge loss of human lives and wanton destruction to generally backward Yemen is an anathema and is incongruous with Islamic and good neighborly values irrespective of any political explanations, arguments or considerations trying to justify an increasingly immoral war.
    The advent of Donald Trump to the White House and the bellicose and belligerent language this increasingly discredited ideologue is reserving towards Iran should in no way prompt the Saudi decision makers to be misguided following on Trump’s steps by engaging in heightened tensions towards a formidable, predominately Shai militaristic neighbor Iran.
    Raising tensions with Iran is counterproductive that could very well lead to intensifying Syrian and Yemeni proxy wars as could very well lead to a direct Gulf War, direct military showdown between Saudi Arabia and Iran that would prove enormously destructive and costly serving no useful ultimate purpose.
    The narcissist increasingly fast discredited confrontational Donald Trump in the White House – a dogmatic White Supremacist hugely lacking in good judgment and morality – made it amply clear on several occasions (the impetuous and miscalculating rash person he is) that any heightened military operations in the Middle East and new conflicts would be paid for solely by the rich oil countries as the US is not prepared to contribute any funds in this regard.
    The man in the White House is a most unreliable and most discredited leader in the Western world that the Saudi Authorities ought not to be misguided to follow on his rash and miscalculated steps causing new wars and further new destructions.
    The Saudi decision makers need to take a deep pause to reflect and be reminded of their high moral Arab and Islamic responsibilities, to playing the role of the Big Brother to Saudi Arabia’s less fortunate Arab and Islamic neighbors, putting an immediate halt to all military conflicts in the region and saving precious innocent lives. Besides, it is incumbent on the Saudis to engage, without conditions or hesitations, in sincere reconciliation to end all internecine conflicts in the region and establish permanent peace in the entire Gulf and Arab regions.
    Alas, the continuation of the ongoing conflicts in the region while compromising the moral position of the countries involved, is a sure road to perdition that Arabs and Muslims alone, in their entirety in the Middle East, will end up dearly paying for that would equally compromise their political future

  • Abraham H.

    Hello Folks,
    I’ve a question regarding how the Ethiopian gov is handling the issue of citizenship of Eritreans who were living for many decades in Ethiopia, or even those Eritreans who have entered Ethiopia in recent years? Are these Eritreans allowed the Ethiopian citizenship or is there some other type of arrangement? And remember, according to the Ethiopian law on citizenship from 2003, an Ethiopian national cannot have another citizenship at the same time.

    • Selam Abraham H.,

      Theoretically every eritrean who was a citizen of ethiopia before 1993 and their children have the right to demand the reinstitution of their Ethiopian citizenship, provided they are ready to renounce their eritrean citizenship. The reality may prove different and complicated, and we could be opening a Pandora’s box.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Horizon, you said “provided they are ready to renounce their eritrean citizenship”, let’s say there are some Eritreans who want to give up their Eritrean citizenship, the problem is that the Eritrean regime doesn’t allow Eritrean citizens to renounce their citizenship.

        • KBT

          Selamat
          How ,and why ??? And why to Eritrean need Ethiopian citizenship it just backwards country common guys
          The Ethiopian president believes his own lie ,they think they are one of the super power ,we are going to change the regime ,we are helping refugees so one and so one ,they can’t even feed their own populations,their economy is based on foreign aids ,let alone to change regime in Eritrea it will be miracle if their own survive ,they just a pet for the american

    • Abi

      Hi Abraham
      I don’t think the Ethiopian Citizenship Law changed since the King’s time. I don’t know about the 2003 law you are referring. If I remember correctly, the Ethiopian government used the 1933(?) citizenship law to deport Eritreans during the border war. Mind you, both derg and eprdf did not change the old citizenship law.
      The 2003 law you are referring might be “የማጠናከርያ ህግ”.
      Where is Crocos when we need him the most?

      • Abraham H.

        Hi Abi, Article 25 of the citizenship law of Ethiopia from 2003 states: The Ethiopian Nationality Law of 1930 (as amended) is hereby repealed.
        Just google “Ethiopian citizenship law” and you will find pdf copies of the law.

        • Abi

          Thanks Abraham
          Still there is no dual citizenship.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Abi,

        There was no legal justification for the deportation of Eritreans from Ethiopia in 1998.

        The UN Human rights commission criticized it highly because of the way it was done and the reason for it.

        I think the PMMZ has addressed it in much better way.

        Berhe

        • Abi

          Hi Berhe
          The Ethiopian government had every reason to deport all Eritreans who participated in the referendum.
          There is no special treatment if you chose to be an Eritrean.
          How it was applied back then has no relationship with the law. It doesn’t change the legality of the law.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abi, you said ” There is no special treatment if you chose to be an Eritrean” Yes, there is! you don’t put Somalian refugee to your toothless Universities. you don’t put Sudanic refugee in to your universities but you do put Eritrean refugee in to your Universities and is not that special treatment? the funny part is the Eritrean refugee are going to Ethiopia because they flank in Eritrean school system yet, when they cross the border to Ethiopia, they are top students in Ethiopian universities. I don’t think the Eritreans are that smarter but it shows you the toothless-ness and quality-less of the Ethiopian universities. Think about it, how is it some one who flanks in Eritrea school system and goes to Ethiopia and they are number one?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            Why don’t you stop and ask your self why they are forced to go to Ethiopia instead of staying and live on their own county.

            It’s not something to be proud of having your own people leave in mass.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            General Nitricc
            May be the Ethiopian education system brought out the best of them. You see General, when these young men and women graduated from the Ethiopian universities they can take their hard earned and internationally accredited degrees to anywhere in the world. When they come to Mama Ethiopia, they see a bright future. They succeeded!!!!
            Congratulations Graduates!!!
            Long Live Mama Ethiopia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Toothless General,

          • Mez

            Good Day Nitricc,

            Data, data,data is the quest of the day.

            Support your narrative with data please.

            Thanks

          • Hi Nitricc,
            You have stopped educating your young by closing the only university you had, and sending them to military camps. Ethiopia has overtaken the responsibility of educating young eritreans, because she does not want to have uneducated eritreans when they come back home after completing the full circle. That is why the ministry of education is lenient in its requirements to admit eritreans to ethiopian universities. The shoot to kill order cannot stop them from running to mama ethiopia. What do you think will happen if they are given ethiopian citizenship? Eritrea will empty of her people, and your PFDJ will rule over an empty land. Of course, you will be more than happy if Ethiopia closes her doors on eritrean refugees whom you call lazy people and other names.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,
            .
            Nitricc, perhaps we have read the text book written in Cairo University. What do you think?
            Just a thought for you to contemplate.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I didn’t say the Ethiopian government didn’t have the right to deport Eritreans.

            You said “I remember correctly, the Ethiopian government used the 1933(?) citizenship law to deport Eritreans during the border war. “.

            Ethiopian government did not use any law to deport them as are trying to give it as if it was done legally or followed through the legal obligation or humanitarian hardship it has caused.

            Separating families, deporting people sick and in their death beds, old, women and children forced from their homes parades as criminals, even people who did not vote, did not have ERITREAN ID, didn’t even know they were Eritreans, thrown in long journey, and in prison.

            DD gave you an example of his ordeal, true to your nature you ignore it purposely.

            Most of them were forced to leave and lose their life savings and destroy their livelihood.

            To some even they gave them Ethiopians passports “deported never to return again” in the Ethiopian passports because they had no ERITREAN passport or ID. When the UN HR issue a statement they stopped giving the passports and deported them without any document.

            Off course you know this very well, because you probably have your own family who went through that.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            You are repeating something I heard million times.
            What makes you a typical Eritrean is you never accepted any responsibility when you illegally and inhumanity deported all those Ethiopians from Eritrea in 1991. Now you are crying like an old dog.
            DD said he graduated from AAU in 1996. How many Ethiopians graduated from Asmara U in 1996?
            Keep your doublethink. You are an expert in that department.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Can you share which law the Ethiopian government used to deport then.

            I don’t know any Ethiopian civilian deported from Eritrea. All the military personal left because the army was defeated.

            I know many people from Tigray (most of them) continue to live in Eritrea.

            As to the university of Asmara, I don’t know and I don’t have data. But I wouldn’t be surprised there were many who were of Ethiopian background who were born and raised in Eritrea.

            I don’t know what Eritrean people did to you, but your hate and your disdain is unparallel than any person that I know.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            I’m not here looking for love. I am here to help you understand the other side of the story. To open your eyes and to see around you. You are too smart to fall for every propaganda comes your way.
            Since when enforcing a country’s law becomes hating others?

            First of all you should have left Ethiopia the moment you got your independence. You waited thinking you own two countries. No Sir.
            No self respecting person cry deportation day and night. You were shown the door by the same people fought for your independence. I never supported your independence hoax. I always said we are one people while your friends mass mobilize at my backyard. I never hated you. I can’t hate my own. Now, you chose to leave us and I somehow accepted it. However, I will never let you have both countries.
            You denounced your Ethiopian citizenship, you don’t want anything to do with Ethiopia, then leave the country and stop crying.
            Tired of babysitting adults .
            ኢትዮጵያ የጋራችን ኤርትራ የግላችን እንዳማረህ ይቅር:: አፍንጫህን ላስ ይላል ያገሬ ሰው

          • Haile S.

            Hi Abi,
            Let me interject here. Yes, you are for love here, absolutely. That is the reason I personally engage with you. If you are not for love, then you are for total hate and destruction. There is no way in between. If you are capable of opening and closing the Eyes, it means you are at the door of the brain, a supposed God in person! Don’t you think so?

          • Abi

            Gashiye
            በጉዴ ወጣሁ!!
            “God in Person !”
            ምነው ከፍ ከፍ አረከኝ ? ጋሽዬ የጤና አይመስል::

            ከፍ በል ከፍ በል ከፍ ከፍ !
            አሁንም ከፍ ከፍ!
            ከዚያ የወደቅህ እለት አጥንትህ እንዳይተርፍ!
            ( ታገል ሠይፉ)

            ዘኮነ ኮይኑ በአምላክ ሥራ አልገባም ብዬ እንጂ ኒትሪክን የመሳሰሉ ከጭቃ መስራት አያቅተኝም::

          • Haile S.

            Hi Abi,
            ያን ያክል ከፍ ከፍ በራሴ ኣልልም
            ኣንተም ያን ያክል ወርውረሀኝ ኣትጥልም
            አንኳን ኒትሪክንና ራስ ኣቢም በጭቃ አሰራለሁ
            ነገሩ ኡፍ ብየ ትንፋስ’ወይ አሰጣለሁ?

          • Abi

            Gashe
            ወርውሮ አይጥልም አቢ በፍቅር እንጅ
            ያንተ ትንፋሽ ማብዛት ለጤናህ አይበጅ
            በደከመ ሣንባ በጠገበ እድሜ
            ልብህ እንዳትቆም ተጠንቀቅ ወንድሜ

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,
            .
            Just to add a little texture to your discussion with Abi about the legality of the deportation of Eritreans from Ethiopia.
            .
            We are talking in hindsight now. Back in 1997 Ethiopia had, I believe, a 50,000 plus Standing Army. Eritrea had over 200,000 Army poised in a threatening manner.
            Most of the leaders of Eritrea including journalists were breathing fire.
            .
            Ethiopia was under an existential threat.
            President I.A to his credit told us that he has the ways and the means to deliver the fatal blow. He showed his might is right attitude and preparation to foreign journalists. He snubbed his nose at everyone who begged him. He even let it be known that he knew which hotel the Ethiopian Air Force pilots were staying in Addis Ababa.
            .
            There is no question about the loyalty of Eritreans in Ethiopia at that time. Under such an existential threat from the 200,000 Plus Army at the border and 100s thousands patriotic Eritreans in Ethiopia proper.
            .
            What would be a reasonable, not a patriotic, just a reasonable leadership of Ethiopia do in such a dire unexpected situation and such a short time to defend itself, I ask ?
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Hi Mr Kim
            What Berhe conveniently forgot is the activities of those Eritreans in Ethiopia before the war.
            He also forgot during the border war Eritreans were actively collecting money for the war. And gentleman Berhe wanted the Ethiopian government to facilitate their efforts.
            “የሌባ አይነ ደረቅ መልሶ ልብ ያደርቅ”

          • KBT

            Selamat kulukhum
            You sound the mouthwash for the dying woyane,
            Most of those Eritrean Origine don’t even speak tigrigna
            Let alone sending money ,and how stupid would the Eritrean government asking money inside Ethiopia.
            We can’t judge you isn’t in your nature to lie,
            But what impress me when we Eritrean say something about you guys the called us racist inappropriate word for nothing
            And they let people like you desecrate our people ,those elder and child that have nothing to do with war
            Taken from their home and expel them with the only clothes they wear ITS A GREAT SHAME TO AWATE THAT CLAIM
            WORKING FOR ERITREA .

          • Berhe Y

            Dear K.H.

            Sorry in the delay in getting back to you. I had started typing right then but somehow I lost my connection and disquess would not bring it back and I put it off.

            Thank you for a reasonable question and a positive engagement.

            First I responded to his comments as he indicated the deportation of Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritreans origin were conducted in legal manner and according to the law of the country. My response was to that comment and not about the war and threat of war.

            To get back to your question, what would a government do in such external and internal threat.

            My honest answer is I don’t know but the Ethiopian government is made up of experts and legal advisers and the actions they took against the ERITREAN civilians is not to the standard of international laws. And this is not my opinion but based on the opinions of the international community such as the HRW, AI, UN HRC and the commission who investigated the event where both governments agreed to the outcome (if I am not mistaken).

            As to my personal opinion, why those Eritreans who voted in the referendum continue to reside in Ethiopia. I think that would be the question the Ethiopian government needs to answer and to some extent the Eritrean government. I do not think it was a priority for either governments.

            In Eritrea I know a lot of civilian Ethiopians (mostly from Tigray), who worked in Eritrea, who owned business in Eritrea continued to live there. My understanding is all the military personal including their families (the majority of them) had left Eritrea in 1991 when the Derg was defeated.

            I PMMZ has addressed this event at the highest level, and I think to the most satisfaction of a lot Eritreans, and whatever we say here is just for our own opinion and will not be significant to the outcome.

            Berhe

  • blink

    Dear readers
    I think this forum is misrepresented by some lousy Ethiopians plus some colorful people who claim to be Eritreans just by accusing the dictator. I some times ask , what could these colorful people say if they couldn’t get a green light from Old ELFistas? Every One has to ask , was our referendum fake ? Was it a mistake to do it at the first place ? Was Eritreans cheated on the process? What if ELF won and done the referendum? So many what questions yet no real answer except by some Eritreans. Every claim I mean even made up stories are welcomed as far as it paints EPLF a bad picture. Every bad story must be told as the product of EPLF. It is well done and even exaggerated at most. Who in this forum can say EPLF has done great things except MS ? Any one who praise EPLF is seen as enemy of the Eritrean people. Ethiopian central bank report is assumed as truth and Any criticism of EPRDF is assumed as an attack to their own land while they claim they are Eritreans. It is a endless smoking.

    • Paulos

      Blink,

      ሃለውለው ኣይትበል

      • blink

        Dear paulos
        My laptop can not show me geez but I know my reply to u is always “what ever” as I group you with dishonest southerners.

      • Selam Paulos and Abi,
        I did not know that the frustration, hopelessness and moral decline of some eritrean regime supporters has reached such a low level that they have regressed to insults of all sort, calling ethiopians lousy and indirectly donkeys. This is the sign of the beginning of the end.

        • Abi

          Selam Horizon
          Some years back there was a parade of some sort where the smart Eritreans brought donkeys with the word ” Amhara” written on them.
          Very smart and unique people.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            That one is from your Witty jokes and you forget we have songs too. Let’s assume ,the defeat of dergi was the beginning of the collapse of the Amhara elitist empire, what we have now is lairs known from day one ,the most crazy thing is Isaias also lied to Eritreans on endless accounts ,We will win against these lairs too. It is just about to time.

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            Can you sign for us from the Amhara bashing album?

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            ask the Weyanes ,they have many in the walta archives.

    • Abi

      Hi Blink
      Consider yourself lucky only the ” lousy Ethiopians “are here. The sharp Ethiopians will never give you time to blink.
      The sharpest Ethiopians don’t have the time and interest to discuss Eritrea .

      • blink

        Dear Abi
        Actually It is bad ,we have the bad once in dozens, we Eritreans could have learned more from honest Ethiopians . I am not impressed with Your witty jokes .The sharpest one was Hailesilassie and he was cut lose long time ago. Some of the news are busy calculating EPRDF next move , while the paid once are here claiming false things.

        • Abi

          Hi Blink
          I have to admit eprdf is the sharp one here. It showed you the self-locking door and you went through it while dancing.
          The honest Ethiopians died protecting Eritrea from Eritreans.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            Sharpest once may be disappointment for both people if we gave that term to EPRDF,let’s just wait the pregnancy time with kindness. I can tell you with examples that the Elite Eritreans has done more to Ethiopia than Eritrea. Of course you know I am thinking the dergi and Haile time.

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            I think it is time for the elites to do good to Eritrea. I always think they brought all the misery to all.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            Yes it is time, but we have to use day light flash light to find them. As they are known to help Ethiopia.

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            Since Ethiopia is ” Thirteen Months of Sunshine ” it won’t be difficult to find them.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            That one is pure!!! If you find them ,I will group you with the honest nice majority Ethiopians.But that 13 is not heard in 🇪🇷 .
            I am afraid to think some of your friends have spent so much time with kids that they cant function as a normal adult anymore.

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            I think you read my friends wrong. Sometimes they act childish to match your intelligence.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            They have learned much from your own experience and assumed business as usual, some even have names like Queen just for lying more.

          • Mez

            Dear Blinck,

            “We the people have to decide….” What do you do if we name her real Queen; without a quote; making all *lf’s obsolate. It would be a landslide shift of thought; but not unthinkable.

            Thanks

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            That is kind of bleak assessment.

    • HayaT1

      Dear, blink,
      What you wrote has nothing to do with the subject, and parts of the claims you invoked too are fairytale. The following are the fact: (1) Eritrea is a sovereign nation; (2) ELF was the bedrock for the struggle of the Eritrean independence. (3) The current multifaceted social and political woes were the making of the crude, brainless HGDF. Ethiopia, like the republic of Sudan and Djibouti is our neighbor. As to your disparaging question why some Ethiopians participate in Eritrean issue, you should have remembered not alone Ethiopia/ns but the United Nation Security Council and many other countries are talking about the many crimes the unelected HGDF has been causing against the people and state of Eritrea. When ever necessary, good people have the right to share their views in today’s word – regardless of geographic locations. If you really care about the people of Eritrea, please focus on removing the primary cause, and is beginning is affirming to stand for Rule of Law.

      • blink

        Dear Hayat
        I didn’t know UNSC are talking about the dictator, when was that ?? Pls help me. Leave ELF things aside. Thanks for your breaking news.

        • HayaT1

          Dear blink:
          You seem to enjoy semantic inversion. The current state of the people and state of Eritrea is inseparable to that of the criminal thug. When the underage, the very old, the prominent and the ordinary citizens are incarcerated for decades without due process by the very force that were supposed to protect them, the affair of the nation and the wellness of the people is inseparable from the tyrant that induces misery. Eritrea is a name of a country, land by itself is indestructible inanimate. In order to find meaning see things in perspective. So need I tell you the UNSC, and many other countries have been talking about Eritrean related issues?

          • blink

            Dear Hayat
            You are not zipping it , do you ? I think you need more time , what is new again , i just forgot.

          • HayaT1

            Opps, you are mad, I think. Well, if you really forgot what you wrote an hour ago, then that could be the symptom of moderate alzheimer or/and dementia, and I advise you to take donepezil twice a day. Bye.

          • blink

            Dear Hayat
            Your advice was well taken but what did you say again , i just forgot.

  • Dear QUEEN Hyatt Adem And iSEM,

    I am requesting your endorsement of THIS Eritrean and Ethiopian Narrative Imperative Paradigm shift with your mightier THAN A THOUSAND SWARDS Sharpened Pencils And/Pen/Digits! Ashra Digits pounding on 10001 Binary Ascii>> Code!!!
    It is time to shelf, The Propaganda of Guayla or Hazen, though Slti YZ needs to be fortified. Yeah like the little boy in Albert Camus Stranger, we have witnessed and live out in REAL TIme the narrative that is akin to the Hollywood Movie Four Weddings And A Funeral.
    So just like our mothers prayed out loud “ztSeHafkumuo tSinuE Qelem, zregetSkumuo Lemlem” enda belku, I am requesting from Aya Amanuel Hidrat To Give The Marching Orders of those that are at Abrukh! WITH HIS “TEBEGES” COMMAND. And no there is no “black” magic or Voodoo, AND IF THERE WAS?????, I am utilizing. IT IS ALL MATHEMATICS!!! hijumm time FOFOLKS!!!

    Analysis of symmetry or parallels is COMMON SENSE KNOWLEDGE every living created by the all mighty possess. The symbolic Mathematics of Algebra, Geometry I will SHARE WITH MY 2ND and above school age students as I follow the LEADERSHIP of “Hack The HOOD” Educational Establishment on 5th Avenue and Internation al Boulevard in East Oakland.
    iSEM, I will take you prisoner as soon as I capture Mr. Elias Amare my co delegate Representative of ENASA-2, resurrected in 1987, in EPLF 2nd Congress and Unity with ELF-Sagem in SaHil. Hakim Sni Tsegaai wold not hand me my Green Card so I can get a Travel Document. My Family Feared would not return. It took Eight Month to catch me and get me into the TWA “Semaay Semayy Tkheid Gereweina.” along with Khartum Telata’s youngest QeyiH Eimbeba NiAmmn Zennai!… The Five Year Old, wizard point guard basket baller! would respond “nHzbawi Gmbarr” when asked the question “NiAmmn n menn TiAmmnn?”
    The AmEritrean GitSAtSE STAND of 17! Abu Ashera Weopon X Evolution reiterates THAT IT WILL NOT TAKE ANY PRISONERS!!! And Yes, NiAmmn an tSAtSE still sing “Eidll Alony Gmbarr Alooni mss Hsbawi Hailitat zeselefeni.!

    Gheteb Where ARE YOU MAN??? Come get some of THIS ADshrumizing! Oh Wise Hippo Fanti Ghana as cool as my Tokhrir Teseney Neigbors an yours on the Tekeze River Banks!!! I do insist on your official Harbegna Weyanay METKELAWI Solidification of The 25||75 Blue Island Badume Just Solution Proposal… Just like the PAINTING @ Arada Gebeya on 57th and Telegraph in Oakland, CA. The Black Artist from Ghana painted the Oil on Canvas Painting.

    You Wise Hippo of The Tekeze River Banks and Kndi ShiH Nitric “The Greatest” are THE MVPs with A MAJOR ROLE TO PLAY AND SWAY THE NARATIVE.

    Chelsea won The Championship…. I Shall be THE RED WHITE AND BLUE USA 1st followed By The B;lack Starts of Ghana in Copa Del Mundo in Russia!!! and of course! Chivas y Monterey Verde Mexico y Amarillo Columbeia … Argentina and Brazil!!!!

    Congratulation to Chelsea on their Victory!!! Hey Saay7 and Haile S., Hamma bel ktdirerr of your coffee shop dialogues I am on tooooo…. Simple Tigrigha Right Haile S?
    iSEM… Rule of 72? Dude This is Asymptotic Earth Gravitational Pull break away QUADRUPLING EFFECT!!! As Explosive as KndiShiH Nitric “The Greatest”… Kem Qutsri 2 RebiHu Tedebiru Kulu gzie ArbaEte… as in 60 raided to the power of ArbaETe…. The Four Mothers of ArbaEte Asmera!!! Hasab libina yesmirelna. !!! Enigmatic Illmatic Mathematics! of ShaEbia Meley’s Hijummm SriHit Quiya at Your Service.

    I have 10001 books already authored though UNEDITED!

    Make A Stand on ’17! Abu Ashera Weopon X Evolution.

    Victory to The Masses || AAwet nHafash! || Alnesru lil JemaHirrr

    2ueces
    tSAtSE “Demmey YteHankokh yEEtSimteteyy wnn YQeTTQueTT” Ewe nsikha tSibaH ab Godni Harinet QelatSimka ZergiH… tSIBAH tSIBAH!!!!!

    AmEritrean GitSAtSE Azilo 40 Agnieya 40 Children Books Press — 2 to Tango and Bravo Company!!! TEBEGES!

    • Mez

      Dear Gitsatse,

      I enjoined your writes; I have to admit after reading all your narration FOUR times; I am able now to make sense out of it. With the help of two round Yejebena buna.

      Every body in my house was happy today, that I exceptionally sat for so long in the middle of them; even though every body was puzzled why I am focused and quite for so many hours; with exceptional frequency of referring the dictionary; and unusual gooogling using triple laptops: having one browsed, the other one opened and compared; the third one on stand by. I am willing to be your student to take a class; hopping you offer one.

      Reading your writeup is comparable to reading Immanuel Kant’s volumes. With the exceptions that you are one of ours and the volumes are in German.

      Yes you are a LIVING book, Mr. Gitsatse

      Thanks

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear GitSAtSE you are doing fine ,,,

      Hoping the queen will come now and here explaining to you and every one of us ..

      for sure you are changing slowly – gradually !

  • Dear Awatistas Eritreans, Ethiopians and Friends,

    As I am aware of the Marriage Allegory in Plato’s Republic. The Nurture V Nature Symmetrically equivalent folks please engage and advise. “Habirna mot ewe.” As of now, I believe the Political Road To DekemHare via Teseney, Barentu, AQordet, Keren, AdTeklaizan, Gejeret Abi, Akhria, Godaif.. Sembel to MetSalu is prefered. As of Monday, as I am obligated defend the Constitution of The United States Government, I will be visiting Alameda Countty District Attorney’s Office and hopefully meet with District Attorney Nancy E. Omaley.
    The Pencil of Mr. Ismael Burhan Ali is encouraged to respond should he have read my 5th Offensive Narrative Imperative.
    Political Leverage, Conflict Resolution, The Immediate Release of Eritrea’s Po litical Prisoner’s – And The Just Resolution of Under Law, in an OPEN PUBLIC Eritrean Court Hearing FOR THE RECONCILIATION AND DIALOGUE, or the LEGAL ROUT of pursuing Mr. Elias Amare and his Tech Team as he is “The Fenji Regatch” of ’17 representing the unjust and UNEVEN HANDED OF DISPENSING HALENGY SEWRA JUSTICE on my Individual Liberties as a United States Citizen Guaranteed by The Supreme Law of The Land That is The Constitution. Trespassing by foreign security apparatuses the SOVEREIGNTY OF THE U.S.OFA will render numerous PFDJ Diplomats Persona Non Grata. You got CAUGHT. Even Oakland PD would have to get a warrant from a judge to enter my dwelling as OUT Right to PRIVACY is PROTECTED by Law.

    I am rather always inclined to the coming to a settlement of a JUST PEACE within our own MEANS– due to both my Eritrean/African Village, through the Wisdom of Learned men skilled in mitigation and arbitration – And The Give And Take by all sides- AND I HAVE ONE AND ONLY ONE Prerequisite That is NOT AND CANNOT BE SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATION.
    1. THE immediate and JUST Resolution of Eritrea’s Prisoners of Conscience! AND The IMMEDIATE PASSING OF A RESOLUTION BY THE YPFDJ ORGANIZATION OF A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT of this guarantee of Their Future JUST DEMAND1 without Delay. The YPFDJ LEAD by KindishiH Nitric “:The Greatest” should Liberate ThemSelves in Defense of Eritrean Peoples Dignity And Liberator’s Legacy BY taking this opportunity TO SOLIDIFY THEIR POLITICAL POWER to Benefit ALL Eritreans, Ethiopians and beyond.

    The Narrative Imperative Stand on ’17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution has penned and contemplated all angles! This is The Only Road to Hmbriti and Liban!!! The proverbial blind and seeing brothers who inherited or settled the Two Eritrean Villages.
    And “Nay zwedeQu bsoTna bret nkhenlEil” Tarikhawi gdnetna/tey iyyu!!! Meinti FtHawi Ellama Sewra Eritrea brgtSE muluE Awet ktChibiTT!!! Or as Mr. Ford, the American Panelist along with Mr. Elias Amare in the 2012 in Oakland, CA Eritrean Festival phrased it: The Eritrean Revolution to have achieved A Total Victory THAT IS GLORIOUS!!!!

    And Official Eritrean Opposition by GEAN, Medekh, ENSF EYC etc. AS well as Official Ethiopian Government Statements IS BEST TO BE ANNOUNCED SOONER THAN LATER!!! The Marathon of 26 Years on ’17 by both Nation’s and People has indeed been arduous!
    Though I acknowledge Ayya Issmael AA’s point when he utilized Persian Khalil Jibrann’s, Author of The Prophet, “Even the Pillars of the Sacred Temples Stand Apart” Within this context, basis being The Marriage Allegory and Socrates Sovereign Number, 60^4 = 12, 960. 000.
    And I believe it is American Legislator Fredrick Douglas that said “The Silent witnesses to Injustice are as guilty if not more than those who commit acts of Injustice.”

    As I look forward to The Captain Saay7’s Part 2 of Subtitled The WutSuE TsiQuTT Eritrean GitSAtSE, I encourage MaHmuday “The Best” SaliH and others TO STEP UP TO THE FRONT!!! All Revolutionaries that ARE JUST! were FRONTS with their GMBARR on the Line.

    Make A STAND on 17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution! AND THE TIME IS NOW!!! And we are only on the intitial stages of the Constructs of The Eritrean/Ethiopian Win Win Narrative Imperative.

    Bob Marley and The Wailers of Jamaica songt “No Woman Don’t CRY, I Said I remember when we use to sit in The Government’s Yard in TRENCH TOWN, Observing the Hypocrites mingle with the Good People we have..”

    Yes… Tough Gone and Junior Gong IS READY for the EXODUS to THE READ SEA! The Movement of JUST Peopl,

    Black Belt —Otherwise Master Sense Captian Saay7!

    V
    2ueces
    tSAtSE

  • MerHaba btSAy meQalistey! YEPLF KindishiH Nitric “The Greatest!”,

    I am quite sure you are more that capable to sweep through Semhar, SenHit and Barka and humanly TAKE GOOD CARE of The Prisoners of our Just Eritrean War you have valiantly fought along side tSAtSE, Saay7, SJG, PEACE, Semere Tesfay , Gheteb, iSEM, Berhe Yeman, Gash Abi, tes, “Queen” Hayat Adem, MaHmuday SaliH “The Best”, Mr. K.H., Pillar AAmde , etc. etc.. AND The Banks of The Tekeze Wise Hippo Fanti Ghana with HIS FINAL AND BINDING from PEOPLE To PEOPLE DIALOGUE PEACE AGREEMENT PROPOSAL of 25:75 BLUE ISLAND Malcolm X and Ethiopian Olypmian Robel “The Whale” Swimming Pool adjacent to The IGAD Liberal Arts Institute– formerly known as Badume.

    You shall be just with these UNJUST WAR MONGERS, like AAron, Graviton and others who are all disarmed. You are to humanely escort them to the respective borders of other innovative and creative en devours where these young will be utilizing their productive years ahead of them to increase to humanities proverbial Whole Pie- be it Pecan Pie, AArkobkobay Pie, Apple Pie. The Lord and Rabi Jesus teaches us this lesson through the parable of the Talents. For Eritrea’s, Ethiopia’s young many Talents have been buried for nearly a half a century…..

    Mathematically, as pie is constant, The Eritreans and Ethiopians “SHOULD PUT DOWN OUR GUNS AND PICK UP OUR GUITARS”, hammers, Saws and nails. The Economic Plan of Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution will is be presented with this COMMON SENSE MATHEMATICAL prelude formulation:
    The Objective of the Justice Seeker Eritreans and Ethiopians will be TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PROVERBIAL WHOLE PIE. As in AARkobkobay Pie, Gaba Pie, Beles Pie, Pecan Pie, Lemon Merrang, Banana Pudding AND MOS DEF!(Brooklyn!) Apple Pie. The obsession and preoccupation of each individual human on INCREASING OUR RESPECTIVE SLICE OF PIE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT ANY REGARD of the others
    1. As Irrational as the for certain Constant IRRATIONAL NUMBER PIE 3.14…Because, by depriving others of their decent portion slice of pie, we are decreasing their ability to be content, spiritually and physically, to contribute as significantly as we IN GROWING THE WHOLE PIE. WELL, THE BIGGER THE THE WHOLE PIE, The Bigger our SLICE of Pie, the individual portion that is A RATION OF THE Slice’s ARC LENGTH divided by The Length of the Diameter. Essentially, the arc curvature of say the crust of an apple pie and the over the Two Legs of the triangular shaped traditional slice of Apple Pie or Himbasha. The Bigger we increase the AARkobkobay Pie, the bigger our slice getts as opposed to fighting over a small pie believing erroneously, it is the last pie to ever be baked, and stagnating HUMANITIES ABILITY TO GROW EVEN LARGER THE WHOLE PIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE APPLE PIE!
    2. Over All humanities progress has been growing the WHOLE PIE if we are to quantify the advancement over all the aspects humanities growth in last few centuries. Without neglecting to point out significant injustices such as to WILD, LIFE, The Ecology, and H TWO O!!!! WATER essential for the sustenance of life on EARTH OR ANY PLANET coupled with Energy for PHOTOSYNTHESIS OF PLANT LIFE. The, Individual pursuit of success measure by the standard of how much larger is your piece of the pie than your neighbor, I believe is partially A FALSE NARRATIVE that is misconstrued due to The Individual Liberty being above group liberty to encourage HARD WORK AND CREATIVITY as the Lord commands, but IT IS ALSO purposely peddled by the very few, greedy and insecure.
    3. As my focus and residence protected by law, is the United States of America, An Economic Plan that the current US Administration under Chief of Staff and President Donald Trump can effect immediately, is already PENNED. The Economic Plan, is sound and based on both common sense and Actuarial Principles Based precise calculus, that considers in detail or discounting factors and the contingent events that affect the Assets and Liabilities for the valuation.
    I believe Every Enrolled Actuary and all Associates and Fellows of The Society of Actuaries would ENDORSE THIS Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution– Economic Plan for America’s significant GROWTH of ITS APPLE PIE. The Rule of 72 or Rule of 70 or 69.3, though it may sound as if I am enjoying myself, WOULD ALSO GUARANTEE AN OUTPUT OF 4 YEARS for President Donald Trump to Double up in this investment and be a 2 Term Great American President.
    It is consistent of INCREASING THE PIE. An FSA and Top Tier Pioneers of Defined Benefits Retirement Plan among Buck Consultants Inc, (Which was a Mellon Bank subsidiary when I joined the Industry) gave a lecture to all level Actuaries at Watson Wyatt Corp circa 2006/7. Adjacent to the Bay Waters and Ferry Docks, not far from the Mahatma Ghandi’s bronze statue in San Francisco, CA is where the gentleman FSA Workers Defined Benefit Trailblazer Actuary, gave the lecture to Watson Wyatt’s Actuarial Analyst, EA’s, ASAs, FSA as well as our colleagues from HR, Finance, Marketing etc.. Over all the amenities of fine wines and foods, his lecture and advocacy was of the diligent push for our industries continuous designs of Defined Benefit Retirement Plans and the slowing down of Defined Contribution Plans, that was aggressively replacing DBs. Due to it’s portability and the very mobile from one corporation to another work force as the INFORMATION AGE was changing American Industrious Labor Productions lead by Mo Town and the Steal Industries. This was the time President George Bush 43 Administration and the Big Political Push for Privatizing Social Security. Our lecturer Senior Actuary, among the Pioneers of Labor Benefits Solution Founders with Buck Consultants Inc. was en rout to join President Bush 43 Cabinet to advise as a strong advocate for the merits of Defined Benefits Plan for the American Labor Force and against the rushed privatization of Social Security Benefits. Surely, the Actuary was looking at it from the same GROWING THE WHOLE APPLE PIE as opposed to the Investment Banker’s of mutual funds that may have been entirely motivated by the increase in the assets in Mutual Funds and Capital Investments industry. Increasing, the Individual portion slice of Pie without due diligence to American Productivity of goods and materials and the work force that was the Middle Class America shrinking to the point of catastrophe, lots of duress, and pain which we still see its effects in urban cities as manifested by the housing crisis crash, internal migration…. I will give a full historical account and tabular illustrations. I am only strengthening Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution – Plan for The American Economy to reach President Trumps Team for their implementation and 2 Term Presidential Run. Yes, I am a registered DEM, and I will likely not vote against TRUMP, but this Plan for the American Economy, win-win in its great potential of growing the Whole American Pie will most likely guarantee his 2nd Term Reelection with the added prestige of being as Great of President as President Ronald Reagan. The Basis of this Economy of the Future Plan, Global and Heigh Tech Information Age IS CONSISTENT WITH TEARING DOWN WALLS – NOT BUILDING THEM. President Trump likes to BUILD WALLS AND is with a great grip of understanding of Finance and Capital Investments. Well He can STILL BUILD WALLS, but LET THE WALLS BE FOR HOMES AND SCHOOLS! And the growing of the Whole Apple Pie.. Well as we say HERE IN AMERICA, THE PROOF WILL BE IN THE PUDDING.

    As I am a Student from the school of The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Professor Newton Garver,Dean of Philosoghy SUNY Buffalo and All the Veteran Just Warriors, The American Armed Forces War Veterans best represented by Veteran Warrior Caesar Chavez-who defended the USA both in the overt War of 2nd World War against the foreign “enemies” and the Overt war on the America’s internal migrants of all races IN HIS CIVIL RIGHTS FIGHT BY STANDING UP TO THE INJUSTICES OF THE COVERT WAR domestic “enemy”. An so, I will re narrate The Lemon Story from Professor Newton Garvers Round Table discussions and philosophical contemplation of All Aspects of both Covert and Overt Violence, reserved for Honor Role Students of which I was NOT as the time… but that is another story….

    Dear KindishiH Nitric “The Greatest!”, Bob Marley sang “In The abundance of Water, The Fool IS Thirsty!”. With all due respect to Ustaz SaliH Johar Ghadi and his war of attrition against the PFDJ and GoE, please MayyTSrha igglesetiou yeHwatka the Pows like AARON and Grvaiton gberr. “The Best MaHmudday” did just that for Gashie Abi and the brave Ethiopian Young Soldiers who were his enemies. So you do the Sweep and you are more than capable! No room for pesimisim. And I ask All the Brothers and Sisters! without to DELAY TO REVERT TO THE ERITREAN/ETHIOPIAN NARRATIVE IMPERATIVE FOR THE JUST RESOLUTION OF THE ALL PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE AND THE GROWING OF THE AARKOBKOBAY PIE.

    Dear Nitric, I must command THE DANKALI DEPRESSION ASSEB FRONT to catch up WITH AaMDE THE PILLAR. As a Finance person, understandably he is upset with the Sudanese Breakers Power Relay Solution. Well, the Finance folks loved us Actuarial folks for always MAXIMIZING THE GAINS AND MINIMIZING LOSSES for the SERP non qualified benefit plans of high bonuses and severance packages. Which is justified by science and math. I will have to chase after him myself as the tSAtSE the Village Tesseney Idiot in order to impart on him THE GREATEST QUESTION ANY ONE HAS EVER ASKED, in my humble or not so humble opinion. I will point out The Contingent Events en rout to the ONE PEOPLE with equal access to all the creators natural resources including PORTS! which he is temporarily blind too. The Actuarial Gains over all valuation IS due to the excellent hard and meticulous efforts of the VERY WELL NURTURED, THE likes of KndiShiH Nitric “The Greatest”, Saay7, SJG, Pillar X, Haile S, Brhan, Queen Hyatt Adam, Paulos, tes, YZ etc…
    And The PRIMORDIAL RAW and Obtrusive yet with vulnerabilities and significant handicaps DUE to THE NATURE of Sahil/Dedebit and Armed Revolutions and Wars of THE HORN of Africa …LEAD by Awate’s Rude Boy the very resourceful iSEM, tSAtSE/GitSAtSE, MaHmood “The Best” SaleH, GHETEB Gheteb gheteb…. Nurture of solid foundation of family and nursing of MILK AND HONEY, choice planned education and guidance for The Elite Ertitreans and Ethiopians– Gashe Abi IS RIGHT! and So are you. In spite of their privileged and blessed solid upbringing, they have a right and duty to LEAD and be Lead equally by the Laymen raised by NATURE under the Sahel Mountains dodging American and Soviet Fighters in SAHIL. [Mr. SaliH Ghadi, you were the one that flinched in Godena Harinet 13th Street and Franklin in Oakland California, you have got to do better with your scarecrow FEAR of TERROR narratives to scare tSAtSE.) … Well Sire Have memorized, Sonet No 29 I shall have memorized for my response to your IS IT Nature of Nurture contemplation. But YOU AS Elite Nine KndishiH Nitric “The Greatest” , The YoungPFDJ en mass, the Yourth in Opposition have to HUDDLE AND COMPLETE THE Wolverine FAB Five led by the Center Pillar AAMDE Michigan University TO DILIGENTLY CONTINUE THE OPTIMISTIC HUSTLE with THE FIRST AND FOREMOST PRIORITY BEING CHANGING THE Eritrean-Ethiopian Narrative Imperative for the forward solution and significant GAIN of JUSTICE- THE JUST RESOLUTION OF ERITREA’S PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE and ALL.

    KindishiH Nitric “The Greatest” lead YPFDJ have an INTERNAL DEAD LINE NO LATER THAN MAY24/JUNE20. THE Client’s external Deadline being August Rush! iN tIME FOR BAhTI Meskerem!!! September 1st, 1961! @ Mt. Adall .

    (as I embark to take on my former comrades Mr, Elias Amare, Semere RuEsom, Mr, Hagos Gebrehiwet “Kisha” etc…who named me tSAtSE in May 1st of 1978 FOR THIS VERY REASON. They claimed and encouraged me as tSAtSE I can carry Twice my Weight and Climb a vertical wall! I got YOU FELLAS!!! My Solution is WIN – WIN.. Thanks for instilling The CAN DO Attitude in me at a VERY VERY early age! The NURTURING! is all yours! As it is To the Heroes and Heroins of “Filmawit Ade Nay Moral Nay Tesfa Bokhri SaHil Abay NAKFA! Woy NAKFA!!!!!) Happy Mothers Day to All

    In English Filmawit Ade Nay Moral Nay Tesfa!!! Translates to :The First MOTHER of Moral/Courage AndHope, First Born of SaHil Larg…You ARE NAKFA woyyy Nakfa! Barka Abay And SaHil Abay Nakfa!!!!

    The Wisdom and very learned Ghedli Generation of Aya Amanuel Hidrat, Aya Ismail AA, M”B”S, Kokhob Selam, Mr. Ismael Burhan Ali and alll ELF and EPLF Fighters — Please REINFORCE This STAND on !7! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution! The Just Resolution and Freedom of Eritrea’s Prisoners of Conscience! Your Leadership with Kshafa40 of the 1977 Simret 10 Km from Asmara, I will Bridge with The 1979 ENASA Vs. 1988 Birth of Nueys At the 2nd Congress of the EPLF and UNITY with ELF Sagem, and This Narrative Imperative REAL DREAM OF UNITY of All Eritreans and beyond!!!
    The Azilo40 Agnieya40 Kishafa 40! Continues… And it has just gone multimedia.

    Dear Captain Saay7! Fibonacci Numbers in Pine Cones or the AAkaat AArkobkobay Gurrgurr Beauty Aerodynamics Dance! is CALLING for you STRONG August Rush Push in your Party 2 and The Requist for Justice and Peace full Growth. I ain’t promising am NOT singing “Can’t We JUST ALL GET ALONG” as did Rodney King after witnessing his homes Watts BURN in the RIOTS. Rule of 72, iSEM and Gheteb I have calculated it to be A Third to Two Thirds of the The Year. Sena SebaEtaEsher the melodi of MoHamed Werdi. The ROSE!

    Of course, “The Greatest” Honor, is that of KindishiH Nitric’s Historical LEADERSHIP in Making A STAND on 17!!! Win Win!!!

    Make A Stand on 17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

    “Reality is WRONG, DREAMS ARE FOR REAL!” The Legend 2 PAC Shakur!

    AmERitrean GitSAtSE Azillo40 Agnieya40 Children Book Press.

    2ueces
    tSAtSE

  • Selamat “KindiSHiH” Nitric,

    The Leader and Exceptional Young Man, CREDIT TO YOUR HARD WORKING FATHER AND MOTHER as well as your productive immediate community of the recent immigrants who are PART OF THE VERY PRODUCTIVE AND INNOVATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE of all RACES, ETHNICITY, AND RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS, who continue to build These United States of America with ITS SOLID FOUNDATIONS OF GOVERNMENT’S CHECKS AND BALANCES UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND THAT IS THE CONSTITUTION have successfully pursued and are in pursuit of Justice, Liberty, an Happiness for themselves and fellow citizens.

    The American Armed Revolution is EXEMPLARY TO THE Eritrean Armed Revolution. The Innovations and the height of global leadership the USA has attained and will continue IS DUE TO THE CONSTITUTION AND SUPREME LAW base ON REAL SCIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE. You will be privy to THE MATHEMATICS BEHIND THE REPUBLIC! If you are not already. Fibonacci series and Base 2 Boolean Algebra, Pi, will be my language that you will love to read as the scientific BASIS for WHY THIS STANT ON 17! IS INDEED A VERY PIVOTAL AND CRITICAL for Eritreans DIGNITY and AS CONTINUED BEARERS OF THE LIBERTY TORCH. It IS, however, more critical beyond Eritrea and what you may construe as “just another ideology.” IT IS NOT!!!

    With my contemporaries, like Mr. Elias Amare and the PFDJ leadership, I will win them over AND THEY WILL come to agree with AmEritrean GitSAtSE’s Eritrean Narrative Imperative BECASUE OF ITS TRUTH AND RATIONAL! Knowledge which they already posses with the exception OF WHAT I SHALL ILLUMINATE FOR THEIR SAKE. The PFDJ coming to their senses will be easy. TRUST. Most of the HARD WORK has been DONE by THE Eritrean Opposition.

    I gave the Nick Name “KindishiH” FOR THIS VERY MONUMENTAL position of ENVY YOU NITRIC OR ABRAHAM find your self. KINDISHIH you have maintained your STANCE for over a decades and have suffered personally I AM QUITE SURE! EVEN A LOT MORE than tSAtSE -the Malleable. You have absorbed thousands and thousands of direct blows to THE HEAD AND BODY, as did “The Greatest” Mohamed Ali inside the boxing ring. I am quite sure, your “ADD” and manic depression you have been ailing from is a direct consequence of your manning the TRENCHES of the COVERT VIOLENCE all by yourself since early 2000s. One to Twenty or Fifty. This is a testament to your personal fortitude and strength. Caught between a rock and a hard place, you are INDEED A PRINCIPLED FIGHTER. I solute and admire you personaly. HOWEVER, Abraham/KindishiH Nitric, YOU ARE THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON/CATALYST THAT IS DESTINED TO USHER THE INEVITABLE ERITREAN GLORIOUS VICTORY for you hold THE KEY TO THE “THOUSANDS POINTS OF LIGHT”, As President Bush 42 envisioned once.
    You ABRAHAM/NITRIC- KINDISHIH! MUST THE FIRST YPFDJ TO MAKE YOUR STAND FOR JUSTICE and the Just Resolution of ALL of Eritrea’s Prisoners of Concience. You have EARNED IT! As much as the Eritrean Youth in Eritrea have been relegated to a life time of defending and building/slaving for the our Birth Nation Eritrea, So have you KindishiH, I am a witness, served as LONG if not longer. And you NEED NOT FEEL as if you have NOT suffered as much. I believed you have been wounded in battle EVEN MORE! Therefore, The Elias Amere’s and others SHOULD BE LISTENING TO YOUR SOUND, LEARNED AND EXPERIENCED REASONING AND EARNED LEADERSHIP. You are a LOT more Battle Hardened more sophisticated and innovative than their simple George Orwel’s Animal Farm Play Book they have utilized to lead with much ease and comfort. And as you have earned to TAKE LEAD, without being intimidated with their scare tactic of “Culture” or “Bahli” — A LIE!!!— As KindishiH Explosive Nitric, In This MONTH OF MAY, Y2K ’17, 17 years after the PURGE and without due process incarceration of the EPLF G15, a blessing in disguise in that it exposed numerous more transgressions against Eritrean ordinary Citizens by the Guerrilla fighters, YOU OWE IT NOT ONLY TO THE TRUE ERITREAN NARRATIVE IMPERATIVE – Awate’s Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution, BUT ALSO TO YOUR PERSONAL INDIVIDUAL ULTIMATE LIBERTY as well as YOUR LEGACY AS A HISTORICAL FIGURE IN ERITREAN HISTORY. KINDISHIH! your are called upon by FATE to be the first to PFDJ to STAND on 17! BASED on YOUR CONSISTENT TRACK RECORD THAT HAS BEEN G!!! AND BASED ON JUSTICE, mathematics/science AND THE Discipline of the Soldier with the sacred Oath to Uphold the Constitution And Constitutional LAW universally.
    Why you, I have compiled hundreds of variables of your LEADERSHIP Quality attributes, but I will only give you ONE indices to end this CALL of DUTY fate has delegated me to point out to you. And It is Mathematical common Sense: You Are KindishiH! Meaning in ONE Person you are LIKE with A THOUSAND as STRONG Members. Well, then good friend, The law of Large numbers and strong leadership will GARNER YOU 90 Percent if not more of the YPFDJ membership, Who are a lot more STRONGER, creative and innovative THAN the Old Guard PFDJ that is gambling WITH YOURS and fellow young Eritrean at home FUTURE. KindishiH Nitric, IT IS YOUR ERITREAN HISTORICAL DUTY TO DEMAND JUSTICE AND MAKE THE STAND. BE Explosive as NITRIC ACID! AWATISTA KINDISHIH NITRIC ACID, I have a HEALTHY ENVY for the honored and sacred position YOU HOLD IN YOUR HANDS- TO BE “THE GREATEST!” in Eritrean history. KindishiH Nirtric “The Greatest!” Your and you alone, (refer to Saay7’s Individual Liberty Rights Over Group Rights philosophical arguments– I have the arithmetic proofs that will follow) Nishkha Hade KndiShiH, Gmbarka meInti Harinet Tarakha iyu Medrekh.
    Yes I agree, you Eritrea Will BE BUILT AND HEALED by YOU (you said “WE will”) The YOUNG Eritreans of which the YPFDJ will play the Greatest ROLE. But if and only if KndishiH Nitric does not fear to STAND UP to his GREAT PARENTS and Liberate them by humbly stating that Abraham is ready to RE LEAVE you and defend, as he explains the TERRAIN, and Obstacles of modernity, technology and globalization necessitates RIGHTING THE WRONGS for they his PARENTS and ALL of Eritreans DIGNITY and JUST HISTORY. Up to disobeying, with LOVE, and heading for the MOUNTAINS to BE THE LIBERATION FIGHTER and LEADER who did NOT TRIP ON THEIR MOTHER’s BLOWS– kemiSH Addey HanQuiluni, Dear KindishiH Nitric “The Greatest” I know you will not resort to. For “WE to BUILD ERITREA” or PARTAKE and do our Part, your Historical STEP for Eritrean Narrative Imperative on ’17! is critical but not vital.

    So, you can feign “I am ADD” or be afraid to approach Mr. Elias Amare for the August 1991 videos so that YOU AND YOUR FELLOW YPFDJ comrades can examine The SUNY @ Buffalo, “Bailey Papers” for YOURSELVES and make what you will of it. I can easily obtain the documents and videos Mr. Elias Amare personally composed, soundtrack of THE MARATHON, Olympiad concentric circles set AS THE EPLF Battalion and Bergaid, top echelon Tegadelty, The Freedom Fighters along with Eritrean Prisoner of Conscience and EPLF Polit Burue Leader MaHmud Sherifo and Finance Min Mr. Hagos Kisha, the Deservedly all Dignitaries at the time were received with Ten to Fifteen Thousand Diaspora Eritreans Standing Ovation at Howard University Auditorium, Washington DC in August of 1991. Yes, I can fish it from the Library of Congress, but I did not want it for me or THE GHEDLI TRAIL BLAZERS. It was/IS for YOU AND YOUNG ERITREANS “Opp + YPFDJ” to examine scholarly so THAT you can chart your future as vanguards of your peoples and land accordingly. We the aged and closely aging knew it THEN we know it now.
    I just caught Mr. Elias Amare and his Tech Support with THEIR HAND in THe COOKIE JAR! Just as THEY HAVE ERASED from the memories of YOUNG ERITREANS THE life time FREEDOM FIGHTERS: Petros Solomon, MaHmud Sherifo, DuruE, Biteweded Abraha AND Eritrean Liberation Front’s [JEBHA ABAY BEALTY TEBBAY!] from its Hafash/Wudub to exemplary Eritrean Revolutionary Leaders, AN ENTIRE BOOK I can Author about The Guru Mr. Elias Amare’s opportunism by eliminating MORE CAPABLE THAN HE MINDS PREEMPTIVELY.

    He just became “Fenji Regotch” by erasing and replacing The Oakland 2012 Festival video because the RISK of my Eritrea Narrative Imperative he and his team felt was A THREAT that they EXPOSED THEIR FOREIGN MILITANT ESPIONAGE ON AND INTIMIDATION ON AN AMERICAN CITIZEN THEY HAVE BEEN UTILIZING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. They Erased Mr. Ford’s, a White House Staffer, statement of their own video when THEIR FUTILE PROPAGANDA NARRATIVE was not going to be served. They hijacked my entire internet systems and APPS, my password they changed, as they bought time to edit and replace their own video. Mr. Ford’s hesitancy to confidently declare Eritrea’s Victory as GLORIOUS and their over a decade harassment of tSAtSE and many, IS NOW AN INDISPUTABLE FACT THAT WILL BE DEALT WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE USofA.
    Not for the sake of tSAtSE. I AM READY to PAY the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE as IT WOULD BE AN HONOR and DUTY IN DEFENSE OF THE NARRATIVE IMPERATIVE.
    It will be Dealt accordingly ALSO BECAUSE AS IT IS MY DUTY TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BOTH AS A CITIZEN AND A VOLUNTARILY ENLISTED TO THE USofA Armed Forces during DESERT SHIELD of The Gulf WAR. It is my duty to protect the United States of America’s Sovereignty from ENEMIES DOMESTIC OR FOREIGN. And, as a voter I will be asking my State of California Representatives to deploy resources and efficiently uncover THESE, Ala Baby Doc Duvalea’s “Tom Tom Matcut”, USofA’s domestic sleeper cell threats US citizens public safety and the the the STRENGTH of The Union.
    So Dear KndishiH Nitric “The Greatest!” , cease this opportunity of your historical role and your INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY TO LIBERATE ANOTHER SHIH/KNDISHIH YPFDJ AND MAKE A STAND ON 17!
    As spike Lee’s with Danny Aielo, LL Cool J’s RADIO in that Brooklyn Pizzeria movie title says: DO THE RIGHT THING!

    Make a STAND on 17! Abu Ashera Weapon X, Evolution!

    “Reality is WROND And DREAMS are for REAL!” Rap Artist, Actor, Poet, Political Activist/Revolutionary, The Legend 2 Pac Shakur.

    Mi Pueblo y Barrios! My Neighborhood that IS my HOME, PEACEFUL, JUST AND HARD WORKING PRODUCTIVE GOD FEARING AMERICANS from THE FLATLANDS to The Hills of East Oakland! is where I hope to dispense and be a knowledge facilitator of fundamental academics like BASE2 Boolean Algebra to 2nd graders. I dream Ceasar Chaves Academy in Fruitful, My Cornerstone Missionary Baptist Missionary Church Academy, Pastor Dr. Lester Cannon, Malcom X Elementary in Berkeley, Encinal HS/Oakland Tech/Oakland High/Mclaymos High and even Laney College.
    I have a war front that I believe I can contribute just a little BIT, AS I HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF A BLESSED American Education funded by the American Tax Payer. When I declared, I have not an enemy in the persons
    that are PFDJ/Oppo/Eritreans/Ethiopian etc… but the ENEMY I DEFINE AS INJUSTICE ITSELF! Yes, The injustice that gives rise to the CRIMINALISATION and STRICT NEAR ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE MAJORITY OF The Population BY THE INJUSTICES OF INADEQUATE AND inequitable distribution to KNOWLEDGE…. And I aim to do my part in my immediate community AS I recognize THE COURAGEOUS PEACE THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE GIANTS IN MY BARIOS/NEIGHBORHOODS/ THAT IS MY refuge and HOME: DA HOOD!!! Full wih HONOR AND DIGNITY of working class to middle class my productive neighbors.
    Mr. Elias Amare and Tech Team! You misunderstood me when for fearing you or anything when I said I have no enemy in the PFDJ. I have been in these 25+ Years inter-Eritrean fighting the divisive Propagandist on multiple fronts! Mr. Elias Amare, I calll on YOU ALSO TO MAKE A STAND FOR JUSTICE ON 17! ON THIS 26yEARS CIRCA 0,2 in this 1st Century of the New Millennia. 26 & .2 Like Nike’s BREAKING2, JUST DO IT! In 2020 Perfect Vision will only perhaps the One Minute+Secs I per each years blunders, Eri&Ethio Leaders, since 1991’s ERRORS will be shaved, so that Kenyan, Ethiopian, Eritrean, American,, Italian Brazillian Marathon Runners BREAK 2. In The Year 2020 my Base 2 Molder forecasts 2 hours exactly. 2020 -.> Base 2!

    Make A STAND! on 17! Aby Ashera Weapon X Evolution! Justice and Liberty for ALL!

    2uces
    tSAtSE

    NB: Oh Captain my Captain, IT IS THE August Rush as in Good Morning Vietnam Robyn Williams August Rush! Harmonics and The Pythagorean Plato! Yes, you are right to assign me The Stranger in Albert Camus. Though I rather balance it with The Emperor Marcus Aurelius, whose absolute power did not corrupt him absolutely, As he was a STOIC and consistent with MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, the Emperor believed also “That Nothing Contrary to What IS NATURAL WILL EVER HAPPEN TO ME.” As It is The Creator’s WILL. A Younger Reverend at Cornerstone Baptist Missionary Church gave a sermon asking The Saints and the entire congregation this question: “Do you know who Jesus IS?”
    August Rush + Central Park + NY Philharmonic—> Deductive Logic Captain My Black Belt surely you have mail ordered?

    HAPPY MOTHERS DAY, my wonderful victorious wife Yehedga Beyren, Zewdi G/Slasie, Sistets Ruta, Sermret, Meley MELEY AND ALL THE MOTHERS!
    Happy Mothers Day SILASEY! I Love you, miss you so much! AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIGHT FOR ME AND ALL OF US.

    this concludes tSAtSE’s Hamshay Werrar,

  • Dear Saay7, Ismael AA, SJG, Awate Forum readers, particularly the Young Eritreans of both “The Opposition” and YPFDJ!

    I am experiencing a live interference on my lap top, handset and other electronic devices by Mr. Elias Amare and his technical support. He is doing all that he can to hinder a “Fenji Regach” narrative and video presentation that I am putting together and publishing shortly. This is ILLEGAL ENOUGH by the LAWS of THE USofA. PROVABLE.

    The expose that I will publish is NOT the reason for my posting this comment. It is in fact to STATE without a shred of a doubt in my mind, Mr. Elias Amare and the PFDJ Violence MAYBE WHAT THEY WILL DO immediately afterwards. I am therefore e-mailing my local Legislators the details of my findings AND for a Congressional Level of Investigation on all the CRIMES I will spell OUT To:1: Congress Woman Barbra Lee, 2, Assembly Member Rob Bonta, 3. Senator Nancy Skinner and Governor 4. Governor of California Jerry Brown and 5. Lt. Governor of California Gavin Newsom.

    I Am Calling For The PEACEFUL STANDING UP for Eritrean Rights to The “Young Eri Opposition” and “The Young PFDJ”
    Mr. Elias Amare and his HIGH TECH and well equipped TEAM JUST became “Fenji Regotch.” The details of which will be spelled out in the ERITREAN NARRATIVE IMPERATIVE that is: Make A STAND on ’17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

    They are caught red handed and their attempt to stop tSAtSE may exceed up to ELIMINATING ME for GOOD. Yes! As in Murder, because they ARE such IRRATIONAL. It is for THIS REASON I am informing all awatiste Forumers as I will my elected State of California Law Makers. Should Any Thing happen, AND I AM NOT AFRAID!!! The Investigation SHALL START with Mr. ELIAS AMARE and his tech team, and this LAP TOP + Android Hand Set.

    I am Confident, should your PFDJ guru Cadres like Mr. Elias Amare respect the Process of Democracy and the Rule of Law, YOU YPFDJ WILL IN FACT OWN standon17! as I am to utilize the history and the Mr. Amare’s and or his teams t actions of TODAY, SATURDAY MAY15TH, 2017, to further make it clear IT IS TO THE INEVITABLE ReaL REAL REAL GLORIOUS* ERITREAN VICTORY! YOURS YPFDJ!!!!!! Either WAY!
    The STAND on !7!!!!! WILL HAPPEN! The Resolution of the Eritrean Prisoners of Conscience WILL BE ON 17!!!!

    Mr. Elias Amare and his TEAM just MADE the grave mistake akin TO NADEW Ez. And The PEACEFUL, Legal STAND on 17! The Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution IS AND WILL BE A REALITY THAT WILL BRING ALONG THE YPFDJ.

    They may still try to eliminate me as was Mengisteab of ENASA of 1979. I am after a few TOP PFDJ Officials who utilize who ARE IN FACT, The KedaE Mesmer of 1979, KedaE Mesmer of 1988, Who betrayed then, and continue to betray THE YPFDJ and Eritrea*** Today.
    The Eritrean Imperative Narrative is FOR YOUR VERY GLORIOUS VICTORY, Eritrea’s YOUNG which YOU ARE IN FACT EXEMPLAR AND LEAD YOUTH AND YOUNG BEYOND ERITREA, in the AGE of INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

    And no IT IS NOT about winning and loosing and bettering an imagined adversary. Ample Academics and Mathematical proofs will be provided OR YOU SHALL AND WILL UNCOVER in the event THE FOOLISH unleash their strategy!!!!

    IT IS GiTSAtSE’s DUTY for JUSTICE and I will FACE it WITH HONOR!!!!

    Stay tuned.

    tSAtSE

  • said

    Greetings,
    Saudis and the Arab Gulf states Beware the OVERSELL of a Battered, Discredited & Impeachable Donald Trump.

    High on the Agenda of Donald Trump on his forthcoming visit ten days from now to Saudi Arabia, his first stop in an official state visit to a foreign country, is to use in this particular visit the Saudis and some other Gulf Countries as the Trojan Horse for Donald Trump to extricate from the quagmire of failing domestic policies and to try, desperately, to regain some statesmanship credibility through the appearance of breakthroughs in foreign policies to try shore up a very battered image at home as he appears, now more than any time before, much susceptible to impeachment in view of his latest move to ouster James Comey, the FBI Director.

    The dominating political atmosphere, political discussions and political discourse in the political quarters in Washington are very reminiscent of the Final Days of former President Richard Nixon in the infamous Coverups of the Watergate Scandal with some of the surviving players in that infamous scandal, just as former Washington Post reporter Carl Bernstein (that he and co-journalist Bob Woodward broke the Watergate Scandal and authored telling it all, “The Final Days”) and John Dean (Former Nixon White House Counsel) are these days constant features on the CNN talk shows. The general political debate and political atmosphere in Washington is centered on a cover-up and Russian laundry money that helped Donald Trump elected as a US President.

    Originally favored as the pivotal country, Saudi Arabia, that much hopes are hinged upon by Donald Trump and his bellicose generals to help advance a regional Gulf Agenda of confrontations with the Iranian Islamic Republic that, playing the proxy, could serve Washington’s ultimate purpose with the least cost – to Washington and its allies in the NATO constellation – financially, economically, logistically and in the attendant mobilization of the human recruits and count, boots on the ground.

    Donald Trump and his bellicose generals wish – beside the logistical support and possible human recruits the regional allies in the Gulf can marshal in any preconceived future confrontations with Iran – to use the occasion as a double whammy as the milk cows to the betterment of a US endemic sagging Trade Deficit with the mass purchase of new advanced smart weaponry at a time when the Arab Gulf countries are witnessing a dramatic fall in their oil revenues.

    A battered and an incompetent US President is the last the Saudis and the Arab Gulf states want to follow his lead to entering a new Political and a Security adventure with very ominous short and long-term repercussions at every level for the current and future generations of the countries of the entire Gulf and Middle Eastern regions.

    In Donald Trump’s simplistic agenda to try on his visit to Saudi – as the Saudi Authorities are expected to render the occasion a festive gala with a score of Muslim heads of state are being invited to participate in the sumptuous reception reserved in Riyadh for the visiting US President – to push a further naught for a breakthrough in the rapprochement, virtual normalization of relations between the Arab conservative regimes and Israel, the next country on Donald Trump’s planned State visits.

    It seems that part of the plan by Donald Trump as sold to him by bellicose American Generals is to bring Israel, the most formidable Middle Eastern military force, to the fold if any effective and meaningful local alliance could succeed in seriously challenging the formidable Iranian military machine. And Iranian need to crap their expansionist and extreme Shai sectarian ideology, hardliners affiliated to the conservative judiciary and the elite Revolutionary Guards ,that started by Islamic republic since the 1979 revolution and must stop interfering in eternal araba affairs.

    Starting with the hoopla of Abbas’ invitation to the White House two weeks ago to giving the false impression of Washington’s serious bid to resolving the Palestinian problem, Donald Trump aims on his visit to Israel to try bring Netanyahu and Abbas to meet under his tutelage for appearances sake in order to signal the false impression of resumed peace talks as the necessary cover to embellish the Netanyahu and the Israeli government’s image in order to bring them to join directly or indirectly in any future regional Alliance for any future serious military showdown with Iran.

    When asked by Fareed Zakaria last Sunday on Zakaria’s CNN GPS Show on the latest Trump’s move to resume the peace initiative between the Palestinians and the Israelis, Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, one of the most American experts on the Middle East having served as senior advisor to Presidents Bush, father and son, in both Presidents’ Administrations, Haass let out a crack, “What Peace Talks” in the total absence of serious intentions, the political will and the necessary preconditions for peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis.

    The Saudi and the Arab Gulf leaders would, in my humble judgment, err in going that route, following the lead of a much-discredited US President and his most bellicose, war mongering generals .The Saudis and the Arab Gulf Leaders are best advised to playdown the whole Donald Trump’s visit paying only a lip service, out of observed courtesy, to his calls and his Generals’ ambitious war plans and war talks. This since so much is at stake, much to lose and hardly any little to gain of any future rising political and security tensions in the Gulf following the lead of a most unreliable American partner that acts out of short self-serving agendas are now howling.

    • Aron

      Hi Said,
      Very well thought out. It should be posted as an article.

      • said

        Selam Aron,
        Thank for your suggestion and I meant it to be just as a comments .

    • Selam said,

      Thanks for your informative comment.
      D. Trump is not interested in a palestinian state nor is he committed in the defence of the arab states from Iran, but the $100b the ksa wants to spend on arms purchase that was blocked by the Obama administration due to human rights violation by the ksa and the gcc in yemen.
      These oil rich gulf States are afraid that they are being abandoned by the trump administration and the defence umbrella the usa is giving them will not be there for long, especially under this unpredictable administration of a paranoid world leader.
      It is said that there is a behind closed door talk with the jewish state to fill the void that could be created by the absence the usa defence umbrella of these oil-rich sheiks in the future, who see iran as their common enemy and that of israel. Few months ago the uae air force was carrying out a joint exercise with the israeli and the air force of other countries.
      After trump gets the billions for his billionaire stuff, he will forget as usual all about the promises he had given. It is unethical of him (nothing unusual) to make his first visit to a country that is accused of gross human rights violation in yemen. The greedy and nihilist trump will cause a social upheaval in the usa before his downfall. He is taking health care from the poor, denies climate change, tries to create an america that belongs to white supremacists only, etc, and unfortunately, upto now it seems that his support base is still strong.

      • said

        Selam Hoirzon

        I fully agree with your comment

    • sara

      Mr said,
      the gathering with Donald Trump is not with gulf leaders only but with Arab and Islamic leaders according the official announcement, per saudi papers invitation was sent to various Arab and Islamic leaders.

      • said

        Salam Sara

        Thank you,Yes ,I am aware of the invited nation Arab and Islamic leaders .

    • blink

      Dear said
      Do you think Trump has healthy head ? I think the man is in stress , he act like crazy . His lies are endless and his bullying nature expands by seconds. Let’s hope the man stops there. We have enough problems from 2001.

      • said

        Selam Blink there are many people who will agree with you.

  • KBT

    selamat kulukhum
    FAKE NEWS WE USED TO AND VERY BORED NOW
    ERITREA IS IMMUNE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE
    DO THE AUTHORS OF AWATE SLEEP WELL AFTER THEIR FULL LIE NEWS OR COLUMS ?

  • Nitricc

    Greetings; I just read this news about donkey attacking human; I mean is it possible a donkey to attack human? I know Ethiopia have the most donkeys in the world, so, did any of you witnessed a donkey attacking human? strange!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/elderly-woman-whose-arm-leg-010405168.html

    • Mez

      Greetings Nitricc,

      Yes you are correct; to be exact close to 100 million of them live there.
      Thanks

      • mt girm

        Selam Mez
        Eventually, you are going to load Eritrea on those donkeys and bring it back to Ethiopia

        • Mez

          My Friend Mt Girm,

          You may be correct; the world we live in is so awsam to say the least.

          Thanks

          • mt girm

            Selam Mez,
            That was unprovoked!
            Keep the MIZAN balanced.

    • Aron

      Hi nitric,
      What is so strange. Donkeys and humans lived together forever. Donkeys kick people all the time. You don’t have to go to Ethiopia to see this kind of incidents. Don’t you have relatives in hagereseb Eritrea. Or is there subliminal message there dear nitric?

    • Mez

      Dear Nitricc,

      Where is Eritrea on–Exploiting– this “once in a lifetime chance”: Behind China’s $1 Trillion Plan to Shake Up the Economic Order. From New York Times.

      Thanks

    • mt girm

      Selam Nitric,
      You are the ones that used them for multi purpose during the war… You tell us how they react!!

      • Abi

        Hi mt girm
        After the war they used them as a mobile billboard.

        • mt girm

          Selam Abi,
          How come you didn’t respond until now?

        • mt girm

          Selam ABI,
          We need a good poem on this one!!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thank you mt girm.

            Abi come to jebena —

          • Abi

            Hi mt girm
            ከኤርትራ አህዮች ልታጣላኝ ነው?

          • mt girm

            Selam Abi,
            Wonderful!! laughing like crazy!!

          • Selam Abi,

            Once we are talking about donkeys, you know that ethiopian donkeys and donkeys all over africa are now in a grave danger of extinction, because of the trade in donkey meat and skin that has been introduced by the chinese. If I am not mistaken there is a slaughter house recently built in debre zeit for this purpose. The meat is imported by the vietnamese and the skin by china for the production of a medicinal jell (something any way). Ethiopians and many africans are angry about this practice.
            Do you remember the famous cuban adage: everything that flies in the sky except airplanes, everythings that swims in the ocean except submarines and everything that walks on land except human beings can be eaten? Donkeys were in danger then, and they are in danger now.
            They are the main means of transport in african villages and the diminution of the number of donkeys is going to affect the economy.

          • mt girm

            Selam Horizon,
            Have you seen white donkeys in Ethiopia! Those are the ones that need to be sent back to Eritrea.

          • Selam mt girm,

            Yes. They are very rare. But, why do you say that, sending them back to eritrea? I do not understand.

          • mt girm

            Selam Horizon,
            It’s a No good joke. Forget it please!

          • saay7

            Hey Abiyotawi:

            The Smithsonian Institute has a “How The West Was Won” (never mind from whom) section where they display a life size replica of an indispensable animal: a mule. And not tiny Habesha mule but a Belgian one the size of a Greyhound bus. Now how many Westerns have you seen that feature a mule? None. It’s always horses.

            When Ethiopia is all advanced and developed, you can make tons of movies showing how the horse (not the donkey) was instrumental in its development. It’s called creative license.

            Just a saaytanish suggestion.

            saay

          • Selam Saay,

            From what I remotely remember, I think that the horse was brought to the americas by the spanish conquistadors. May be they do not want this connection to appear in the history of america (usa), and they want the conquest of the west to look like only an anglo-saxons business.

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            I dare say that more people have watched Western (cowboy) movies than have gone to the Smithsonian Institute. That is, more people learn about America from movies than the Institute. And I don’t remember watching a mule in any Western….but lots of horses. Horses and guns. Horses, guns and saloons. Horses, stagecoaches, guns and saloons.

            saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            Agatha Christie is SGJ’s fav. Mine is Jackie Collins. RIP.
            Anyway that is long time ago. Now my fav is Saaytanish 😳

          • Selamat Saay7,

            The last time I took several ELF Vets who landed in Buffalo to cross to Canada… There was a school on Bailey Avenue converted to Somali refugees waiting to be processed.

            The Eritreans were have been in Saudi and were also waiting to enter Hamilton, Ontario? Any How.. August Rush I reserved seats for them with my Father in LAW!!! And… kolllelll ilnaya !!! Every thing is life size yessss.. Grey Hound bus size? I think you mean the LOGO or I missed it.

            tSAtSE

          • Abi

            Hi Saaytanish
            I miss talking to you
            Let me give you the Amharic version of your comment
            “በሬ ያርሳል ፈረስ ምርቱን ያፍሳል” ይላል ያገሬ አስተዋይ

          • saay7

            Hey Abi:

            I think the problem is that, traditionally, Eritreans and Ethiopians are not respectful of the donkey, an extremely hard working animal. You are the proverb expert: how many are there about the donkey and how many of them are insulting to the poor animal?

            አህያው ፈረሱን አህያ ነህ ብሎ ሰደበው

            See what I mean? Poor jackass.

            saay

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selamm saay7,
            Indeed, the donkey despite its hard working and for the most part docile nature is not respected. Here is a donkey metaphor that made a full circle. There was a joke in Asmara in the early 90s. A camel and a donkey who knew each other in the “field” met and after exchanging greetings they asked each other how they were. Camel said we are not doing well just like you. The donkey replied, at least they remember you: they sing about you and have your image on their passport. But no one remembers the contributions of the donkey. The metaphor being that the Camel represented the tagadaly and the donkey represented the people’s contribution during the armed struggle. During the brief period of free press in Eritrea, an enterprising cartoonist drew a camel on a podium basking on the glory of being a saviour and a donkey looking up and asking isn’t it time to share power with us? I recently saw that cartoon being used by PFDJ supports as evidence that the imprisoned journalist were wishing for Amhara to come back and take power. Miqnay girm bele derafay::

          • saay7

            Hi Abrehet:

            There are so many variations of that joke, including the donkey petitioning IA, and IA saying since the camel has taken all the good spots (gov coat of arms), he will just have to create ribbons and medals with donkey imprints for the generals.

            The most recent one I saw is of a real picture: a donkey carrying a camel (facing backwards) in a carriage. The caption, in Arabic, says: “the donkey doesn’t know the cargo its transporting, and the camel doesn’t know where it is heading.”

            saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            — የአህያ ባል ከጅብ አያስጥልም
            –ከአህያ የዋለች ጊደር ፈስ ተምራ ትገባለች
            To be continued…

          • saay7

            Abiyot:

            You are slacking. Those are not even the best; I feel cheated. If you want it done right, do it yourself, yilal nechu sewyew:

            1.አህያ ላህያ: ጥርስ አይሳበረም:: (application: rabies can’t go from one cold-blood animal to another.)
            2. አህያ ሞተች ተብሎ ጉዞ አይቅር (application: don’t sweat the small stuff. Hey kids, did you know that the favorite way Eritreans and Ethiopians dispose of a dead donkey is to throw it over a cliff? Some time later, a mentally ill Emperor, Theodros, treated people the same way. Really. He is one of the most venerated Ethiopian kings.)
            3. አህያ ሲጠግብ አንቦ፥ ልጅ ሲጠግብ ሸንጎ (ummm, you may not want to tell this to the Child Protective Services. Really. They will take your kids away. You have been warned.)
            4. አህያ ሲጠግብ: ከጅብ ይጫወታል (Manny Pacquiao fought Floyd Mayweather. Really. There is undefeated and then there is Mayweather.)
            5. አህያና ፋንድያ፥ አራዳና ገበያ:: (Never mind the donkey: how did “arada” become an affectionate word? Doesn’t arada mean “slayer”?)
            6. አህያን አባትህ ማነው ቢሉት ፈረስ አጎቴ ነው አለ (And you thought self-esteem classes were overrated. This donkey has self-esteem issues.)
            7. አሃያውን ፈርቶ ዳውላውን (Like when Ethiopians beat up on us poor Eritreans because they haven’t found an effective way to defeat Weyane. Bam!)
            8. ኣህያ ፈሳች ተብሎ አፍንጫ ኣይይዝም (This is just awful. Really. Come on, now. You are so dismissive of an animal you won’t even acknowledge its fart? Really?)

            saay (tanish)

          • Selam Saay,
            You are good in the amharic language, but your problem is in its details and accents.
            ኣራጅ፣ ኣረደ፣ ኣራዳ (slayer, slayed (verb), city-center)
            ከኣህያ ጋር የዋለች ላም፣ ምን ተምራ ትመለሳለች፤

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            Thats because I didn’t share one of Eritrea’s proverb’s about the donkey:

            ደደሕሪ ኣድጊ ዝኸደ ህላ እንተ ዘየለመደ ጥራጥ ለመደ

            Follow a donkey, and if you don’t learn how to kick like him you will learn how to fart like him.

            Application: who the hell knows. There is a better one about sticking your hand in a lake: you will come out with a fish, or with clean hands.

            I hate proverbs, metaphors, similis, analogies.

            saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            I’m impressed!
            ለአህያ ማር አይጥማትም

            Here is the most interesting fact not many people know or use in a daily basis
            A pregnant cow is called ” የከበደች ላም ” ወይም ላሚቷ ክቡድ ናት::
            A pregnant donkeys is ” የጠገበች አህያ” ወይም አህያዋ ጥጉብ ናት::
            You welcome.

            I missed many basketball games. Need to catch up.

          • saay7

            Abiyotawi:

            You are far too smart to think this was from memory so don’t be too impressed. A heavy set cow and a well-fed donkey walk into a bar…. Bartender tells the cow ” I have no beef with you but your friend is a jackass.”

            Don’t let SGJ tell you all the different names we have for a camel: a baby camel, a pregnant one, one which just delivered a baby, and one which is on maternity leave.

            Its like how the eskimos have 99 words for snow. Allegedly.

            saay

          • Abi

            Selam Horizon
            This is the first time I don’t agree with you. We need to modernize our transportation system with new roads to make the villages accessible. How long are we going to depend on donkeys?
            አህያ ተከትለን እስከመቼ?

          • Selam Abi,

            ጥርሱን እንዳያጣ ኣሂያ ሲከተል ያገሬ ገበሬ
            ምነው ቶዮታ ፒክኣፕ የሌለው እስከ ዛሬ፣

            I remember people who lost their teeth, because they were kicked by a donkey.

            Until our farmers start driving their own toyota pickups, they can put up with sacrificing some teeth for the sake of development.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horizon; you are right there was a slaughter house somewhere out skirts of Addis. your greedy and stupid leaders gave the permission to the donkey slaughter house company with out consulting the reaction of the people and consideration of the Ethiopian culture, then, the company spend millions in building the slaughter house. once the company starting slaughtering 200 to 300 donkeys per week, people got outraged and it become real danger to continue the slaughter house its work. So, after all the investments the slaughter house is closed its doors and the donkeys are celebrating. But the company is suing the Ethiopian government. They want their money back.

    • saay7

      Haha Nitricc:

      You ask the most unusual questions:) Animals attack generally to protect their young, or when the female is in head or, because they are animals and are in a bad mood.

      If you want to satisfy your curiosity, check out the Center for Disease Control (CDC) and use their amazine browser Wonder which will tell you stats on causes of death. I use it whenever politicians in the US make up some amazing statistics, such as number of deaths due to accidental discharge of a gun:) Just remember, the top killers are heart disease, cancer, respiratory, ACCIDENTS (including from a donkey kick), cardiovascular and alzheimers. Of these only the last scares me.

      saay

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Abinet,
    Let me answer some questions you (or anybody else) mighty have regarding the civilians of Eritrean origin lived in 1991 and a little after.
    ID Card: I cannot speak for the rest but in my family’s case; and even then only for Holeta + Ambo. We went to apply for the ID because of fear and disillusionments at that time. I say fear because right after May 1991 many families were killed and threatened. Holeta had a high number of Kebessa and Arab population. While the Dergi did reduce the latter’s population the last Arab family left Holeta because they lost a family member to an Oromo uprising. Maybe there were guns in Addis but outside of it was simply a trade like any other commodity. We were evicted of our home and property. So we moved to Addis where there were a huge Deqi ShaHat community. The rest is very painful to write.

    The process: My mom got to the place and was asked a series of questions. Questions like family line, place of birth, profession, from where and the reason we moved to Addis or Ethiopia. In our case it was a bit long considering our past history. My mom was insisting that not be involved in political affiliations, given the civil war. I just turned 17 at the time and my mom was advised that I get an ID as well since by 1993 I will turn 19. That was the first and the last time I was there!

    The meetings: It is true they invited most Eritreans to meetings but not my family. I would strictly say that it was a Kebessa thing. We had little or not contact with them. In Holeta there were two non-Kebessa family; mine and Seleba Dyer, a Bilenay (what a lonely soul this guy was). We had no contact whatsoever! While In the university they asked me to join their meetings and I went 2 times but there was no political thing, only social gatherings and dance. Finally, things got sour in campus and that was that. Hence, I cannot tell what happened after that.

    EPRDF: even before they got to Holeta they knew who is who. TPLF tegadelties used to frecuente most Kebessa homes and they were welcomed. Neither our homes nor Seleba’s. As for me, I was handed to TPLF by a stubborn Gojame (who refused to let us go while things were crumbling around him) as a prisoner, at Addis Alem mazegaja bet. EPRDF paraded us in Holeta (both Arada and 44) to score cheap shots. They kept me around for six month and was let go. The case Addis was different and I do not know.

    If you have more questions please shoot them them to me….

    • Abi

      Hi D D
      You said you were in prison. Was it at around the border war or before?
      Remember, there were so many Ethiopians angry about the way things handled.
      No further questions 😳
      I knew a University Professor of statistics who used to lead one cell.
      His meetings were every Tuesday at 2:00 pm in a University book store.

      • Dis Donc

        Greetings Abinet,
        I left Addis in 1996, right after my graduation. I have no idea why Ethiopians are so obsessed about Eritreans having any kind of meeting or even a cell. At the end of the day everybody has his own thing going. Why focus on these group of people only? Why so much hate and only towards these group? Does it make any sense to you all know why the Eritreans raised arms? Why not solve social problems in a give and take manner? Why the obsession to dominate and subjugate? Hence, it is only natural to ask why Ethiopia chose to war with Eritrea? Why?

  • Berhe Y

    Hi my girm and Horizon,

    The referendum Eritrea had was like any other referendum. Recently Scotland had one, in the 90s Quebec in Canada. Nothing different than what happened in Eritrea. The only difference is the “no” vote won.

    Had Eritreans voted not to separate, I am sure you would have agreed with the results.

    Berhe

    • mt girm

      Selam Berhe Y.
      The question is: would EPLf have accepted a ‘No’ vote! If No, then what is the meaning of the
      Referendum. Secondly, If Eritreans knew that they would lose their Ethiopian citizenship, is there a possibility that it might not pass!

      • Berhe Y

        Hi mt girm,

        The answer is yes and yes.

        Now the Eritreans who were in Ethiopia would have been affrected but the majority of Eritreans would not make a difference if they lose their citizenship or not.

        Let me give you the Quebec example since I know a little more.

        All people of Quebec voted including those who lived outside of Quebec. Had the yes vote had won, those who voted had a choice to either become citizens of Quebec or retain their Canadian citizenship.

        Simple.

        Why wouldn’t EPLF accept international monitored referendum.

        Berhe

        • mt girm

          The French did not fight a fierce 30 years war before the referendum. You very well know EPLf would not have accepted a ‘No’ vote.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi mt girm,

            If you are asking they had pretty good idea that whey would win, then the answer probably is yes.

            East Timor and S. Sudan had referendum and a separated even the two had war.

            Anyway, no point in de welling on something that has no value to argue today.

            Berhe

          • mt girm

            Selam Berhe Y,
            Every single Eritrean that wouldn’t have voted if they knew they were renouncing their Ethiopian citizenship have been swindled out of Ethiopian citizenship by this fake ‘referendum’ that wouldn’t have changed anything anyway!

          • Berhe Y

            Selam girm,

            If it’s fake or not we have voted and it matters to us.

            If you are Ethiopian don’t take my words for it and read a book by Ethiopian Zewde Retta, yertra guday, may be you can learn sir truth.

            Berhe

          • mt girm

            Selam. Berhe Y,
            Eritrea’s independence has been won fair and Square. The international community would have recognized it regardless of the referendum. Now imagine if the Eritrean Gov. Called upon its citizens to claim their Eritrean citizenship and at the same time informed them that they will be losing their Ethiopian citizenship if they do so. Lets say only 1/4 of the population applied and got it. Then, ELF’s and EPLF’s mandate to go to war on behalf of the Eritrean people will come into question. The referendum was held after the fact so that nobody questions their mandate to go to war in the first place.

          • Abi

            Hi mt girm
            Eritreans were played by both governments. Tamrat Layne , in one of press conferences at Ghion hotel said “ኤርትራውያንን እንደ ኤክስፐርት እንጠቀምባቸዋለን”. He said this when asked about the fate of Eritreans after the referendum.
            ጦቢያ magazine had a series of articles about this issue.
            Unfortunately, the Eritrean Embassy at Abiyot Adebabay did nothing to educate the people.

          • mt girm

            Selam Abi,
            I agree with the first statement. Now you are talking seriously. That means one day we can rectify this issue.

          • Abi

            Hi mt grim
            Are you talking about the expert thing?

          • mt girm

            Selam Abi,
            Your statement: ‘ Both governments played them’

          • blink

            Dear mt grim
            Are you Eritrean ? Fake referendum???🗜,we have done it as no other. First we killed the colonial power and told the world come and see our referendum. Let’s wait and see how your ethnic based democratization can continue. Eritreans do not question the referendum ,they are opposing the government .

          • mt girm

            Selam Blink,
            I’m an Ethiopian, ‘Fake’ in the sense that it had no purpose and it would not have changed
            Eritrea’s independence validity that was decided before the referendum through a hard fought 30 years war. .

          • Berhe Y

            hi girm,

            You are entitled to your opinion but it seems to me that you do not like not because it is “fake” but it has international legitimacy. Honestly that’s the exact reason that was done. EPLF at it highest point composed of 100,000. And those thousands EPLF could not decide the fate of millions people.

            You know another thing we needed to do the referendum, another crazy leader who comes to power would not question our legitimate referendum as fake.

            You can also ask what happened to the Tamil group..he had all secured their territory but didn’t have a political end..then the sri lanka government armed and wiped them out..

            Berhe

          • mt girm

            Selam Berhe Y,
            EPLF has already decided the fate of the millions by then!
            The international community did not demand a referendum before they recognize Eritrea’s independence. IA was saying Ethiopians are deporting their own people just because they are Eritrean decent. Instead of worrying about sugar coating the already decided independence, he should have told his people that they are renouncing their Ethiopian citizenship at the same time
            and save them from the horror they faced later. TPLF’s questioning of Eritreans citizenship is what started this conflict. It was the betrayal of all for IA. That’s why today he doesn’t want to have anything to do with TPLF. We are not talking about the referendum for the sake of it; we are trying to connect the dots.

        • Abi

          Hawuna Berhe
          Just a reminder
          The Ethiopian constitution doesn’t allow dual citizenship. Period.
          You vote for Eritrean independence referendum only if you are an Eritrean.
          At that time Eritreans were given an ID card that showed they were proud Eritreans. Berhe, the moment you accepted another citizenship, you forfeit your Ethiopian citizenship.
          How you voted ( yes/no) does not matter. You are no more an Ethiopian.
          How difficult is this to understand? Are you playing doublethink?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            First I am not saying Eritreans should have Ethiopian citizenship, so don’t make it sound like that’s what I said.

            Let’s forget Eritrea for now. The Ethiopian constitution allows “up to succession”. Say tomorrow an Ethiopian region, I don’t know th exact name “besgwngul” decided to have referendum to separate.

            1) do you allow the people to vote or not
            2) if the vote they lose they citizenship automatically
            3) what if the people who voted “no” to separate (and lose), do you push them to separate ir can they stay Ethiopian.

            Now let’s see who is talking double talk.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Berhe
            None of these all cadre see it that way. EPRDF cadre are trained only to see one way and that is assimilation to the maximum possible .

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Berhe Y., if the majority of those who reside in the region of Benishangul Gumuz vote for secession, then also those who voted ‘no’ lose their Ethiopian citizenship. If these people want to reclaim their Ethiopian citizenship, they would have to apply anew complying with and in accordance to the Ethiopian citizenship law.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Abraham,

            Is this habesha thing or we are super sensitive to take away people citizenship that easy. I know I am commenting on a subject that I have very limited knowledge.

            Taking away someone citizen ship because they participated in a vote doesn’t sound right to me. In fact it’s black mailing those who vote, because they will pay a price depending the outcome. This does not seem free and fair at all.

            If Scotland or Quebec had voted to separate, I don’t think all who voted would lose their Canadian or British citizenship.

            The best and fair way to handle the situation is,

            1) those who reside in the section who is being separated become citizen of that new nation.
            2) Those who reside there but chose to vote no, they would have the option to move.
            3) Those who voted in the are who was not separated but voted because of their connection to the part where the vote happened, they would have the option to remain where they are and continue by keeping their citizenship

            4) and those who want to keep citizens of the new country, they would have to move to that country or they become residents but no more citizens of the country they reside if they chose to stay.

            It has to be fair and fair means no body knows what one voted. So the government or anyone else have no way knowing who voted for what that’s why they have to be flexible and accommodate everyone.

            Let’s see now Abi aqaqi Zeraf respond.

            Berhe

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Berhe, I’m also not expert on these issues, but I’m trying to look at it from purely legal perspective. As you said, if a given region votes for independence, then all those who reside there become automatically citizens of the new nation, regardless of whether the individuals votes ‘yes’ or ‘no’. I’m not looking at it from the emotional or how things should be point of view, but, of course, the two nations could work out arrangements that would govern citizenship issues as the result of the secession.

          • mt girm

            Selam Abi,
            ‘You vote for Eritrean independence referendum only if you are an Eritrean.’
            Define an Eritrean at that time

          • Abi

            Hi mt girm
            Whoever received the Eritrean ID distributed by the government.

          • mt girm

            Selam Abi,
            What was the criteria to get the ID?. Who set the criteria? What kind of document did they have to present in order to qualify?

          • Abi

            Hi mt girm
            My answer is I don’t know. An Eritrean Awatista will help you answer the questions.
            My guess is when EPLF or the new government of Eritrea distributed the ID Eprdf was watching who’s receiving these IDs. I’m sure they have the copy of the list. There was a rumor that people from Tigry origin received the IDs so that the result of the referendum is even higher.
            Since the two governments were sleeping together anything could have happened.
            ዝሆኖች ሲጣሉ የሚጎዳው ሣሩ ነው
            ዝሆኖች ሲፋቀሩም የሚጎዳው ሣሩ ነው

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Abi

            1. – The criteria to qualify for an Ethiopian/Eritrean was and probably still is, one must be born to Eritrean/Ethiopian parents (both) – or at least the father must be (Semere Andom style). Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the claim that the “Ethiopian constitution doesn’t allow dual citizenship ” is bogus claim. I know Ethiopians who are naturalized US citizens that have properties (real Estate) in Ethiopia, and I know Ethiopians who are naturalized citizens who went back home and opened businesses in Addis and elsewhere. Probably Abi can’t – because of the color of his wife’s eyes – that’s all 🙂

            2. – The years prior to the referendum (1991-1993), the general understanding of most Eritreans (I believe including most Tigreans) was – after the referendum Ethio-Eritrean relations was going to be, US-Canada type relations.

            3.- True, we Eritreans bled sweat and died for thirty long years to make Eritrean independence a reality, yes we Eritreans wanted nothing short of fully independent Eritrea in every way, Yes we Eritreans wanted Eritrean territorial integrity to be respected – based on colonial treaties like any other African nation’s national territory, Yes Eritreans who wanted some kind of union with Ethiopia were a negligible number………. but but but that is not the whole story.

            4. – Truth be told – the Woynes wanted Eritrean independence more that the Eritreans themselves. To make Eritrean independence a reality – the Woyanes sweetened things for Eritreans so deliciously, they made the deal so gravy, it basically was an exact offer we Eritreans wanted then and some more. To tell you the truth, the Carter Center fought for Ethiopian interest and gave us Eritreans more headache (probably ten fold) than the Woyanes ever did.

            5. – Why were the Woyanes so generous to Eritreans? Well, because (a) they want to govern Ethiopia alone – they didn’t want to complicate their rule by sharing power with Eritreans – in any shape or form (b) they wanted to restore Tigrean pride and they wanted to empower Tigreans in Ethiopian politics (c) they wanted to make Tigray a ‘shinning star on the hill’ (in education, infrastructure, in military might, in economic development, in trade, in healthcare services…..) by diverting resources from the rest of Ethiopian regions. Now just imagine, just imagine…. had the majority (50+1)……..

            ERITREANS VOTED FOR SOME SORT OF UNITY WITH ETHIOPIA DURING THE 1993 REFERENDUM, HOW THINGS WOULD HAVE COMPLICATED FOR THE WOYANES

            6. – The Woyanes thought, Ethiopia securing free (special) access to Eritrean ports, close relation of the two people, economic integration in the highest order in Africa, free movement of people goods and services, military and security close relation and cooperation……. would calm their critics. But boy where they wrong. That’s why they instigated war with Eritrea. The rest is history.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Selam Semere T.

            It was a mystery to ethiopians when some tplf members said that they fought for eritrean independence more than eritreans themselves, and they would fight again on the side of eritreans if eritrean independence was put in danger by an ethiopian force. Moreover, it is said that tplf lobbied for eritrean independence at the UN to make it happen as quickly as possible, that gave the impression that it was in a hurry to get rid of eritrea and eplf.
            What you wrote above could be an explanation, but could it also be that eplf was demanding too much, more than tplf could give? May be, at last tplf was forced to act as an ethiopian government and not as a subordinate of eplf, because it is said that even foreign governments were criticizing it for its stand that served eritrean interest more than the interest of the country it ruled, especially during the early years post 1991. Some say that the war could be attributed to this conflict of loyalty.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Horizon

            “Could it also be that eplf was demanding too much, more than tplf could give? May be, at last tplf was forced to act as an ethiopian government and not as a subordinate of eplf”

            I don’t know for sure Horizon, I really don’t. But this is what I believe:

            1. – I don’t believe EPLF was demanding too much – if by demanding too much you’re implying Eritrea was taking advantage of Ethiopia on trade related issues. I don’t believe that was the case. The reason: (a) The Ethio-Eritrean trade agreement was an agreement that was written by committees formed by the two governments (headed by their vice presidents – Tamrat and Sheriffo (b) The Ethio-Eritrea trade agreement was a trade agreement that was subject to all kinds of changes. Ethiopia could have said no anytime, to any line that it didn’t like, without going to war – which the war is believed to been border war (dispute).

            2. – I don’t believe TPLF was ever “a subordinate of eplf” and I don’t believe the war was about “loyalty”. At anytime during its existence – at least between 1983 and 1988 EPLF and TPLF were not even in talking terms. During those years (even some to this day) TPLF was/stil does accuse EPLF of genocide. From 1983-1991, TPLF was recruiting, arming, and financing former ELF fighters to fight EPLF…..

            Horizon: Thank you for engaging with respect. We discuss more Monday if need be. Thanks again.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Semere T.,

            #1. Ethiopian law does not specify Father or Mother in citizenship or birthright related identities. It simply says “at least one parent must be Ethiopian…”

            It is true that Ethiopia does not recognize “dual citizenship.” However, it does have special amendments tailored for those originally Ethiopian citizens who later acquired foreign citizenship, aka “individuals of Ethiopian origin.”

            #5. Why were the Woyanes so generous to Eritreans? … a) They wanted to govern Ethiopia alone!

            yekhunelka!

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Fanti G. you wrote ” It is true that Ethiopia does not recognize “dual citizenship.” However, it does have special amendments tailored for those originally Ethiopian citizens who later acquired foreign citizenship, aka “individuals of Ethiopian origin.””. The Ethiopian law on citizenship from 2003 doesn’t have such ‘special amendments’, could you link any eventual new law?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abraham H.,

            I got that information from the requirements for “Ethiopian Origin ID Card” which is the bases to gain all rights and privileges as a citizen. Here are the relevant parts of that requirement.

            A. Requirements for foreign nationals of Ethiopian Origin to obtain Ethiopian Origin ID Card

            …After listing several related requirements, it says :

            3… Two copies of court document showing that one of the applicant’s parents or grand parents were Ethiopians. The document should be authenticated by Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

            For more information check Ethiopian Embassy Website

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Fanti G, thanks for the feedback; in that case the Ethiopian gov has issued other regulations other than the citizenship law from 2003 which clearly disallows Ethiopian citizenship together with other foreign citizenship. Yet, it is still unclear to me whether this ‘Ethiopian Origin ID Card’ has the same status as Ethiopian citizenship or whether it was introduced to make life easier for nationals of Ethiopian origin in terms of travel to Ethiopia, and other privileges, rights, and duties that otherwise come with the Ethiopian cirtizenship.
            As a side issue, the Eritrean regime doesn’t allow Eritreans to give up their Eritrean citizenship. It is like once Eritrean, always Eritrean:-) But the irony is when the regime/Isayas deems it necessary, it even denies burial ground in Eritrea for Eritreans who pass away in exile.
            The rule of the jungle rules in Eritrea, unfortunately, and there are many Eritreans in the diaspora who are living and enjoying all the rights, privileges, and rule of law of Western democracies, while defending and trying to justify the rule of jungle for their fellow Eritreans inside the country.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam AH,

            The ID card is not a citizenship card, but as you guessed, it is intended to accommodate for the Diaspora. With that ID, one has all the rights minus running for political office and voting I think. However, I heard from some people that if one officially abrogates their foreign citizenship, they automatically can regain their Ethiopian citizenship back.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            That card costs $300.00 for five years. Last time I checked it was $100.00. Price gouging?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abisha,

            የወንድሜ ነገር አያድርስ ነው ሱሱ፤
            አየራቀኝ ሄደ ልቡና ምላሱ፤
            ቅጠልያ አምሮት ለምንጣፍ ትራሱ፤
            እያደር ብር ይላል አንዴ ካቀመሱ፤

          • Aron

            Hi dear Semere,
            Everything you said is logical except “that is why they instigated war” . You’ve been saying that for long time chipping at your own credibility. Nobody buys that except few uninitiated. Maybe you should listen to mesfin and others who were there for few minutes.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Semre T., the reason you gave to discredit the Ethiopian law on citizenship is weak, because I don’t think one needs to be Ethiopian in order to own real estate or businesses in Ethiopia. You also said “That’s why they [the Weyanes] instigated war with Eritrea.”, which is a false claim becasue the commission that was mandated with investigating the origins of the 1998-00 ‘border war’ found out that it was Eritrea/in my view Isayas, who started the war.
            Question to the Ethiopians:
            After the issue of Ethiopian citizenship was raised, I searched the web for the Ethiopian law from 2003, and found out that if an Ethiopian aquires another citizenship, then he/she loses the Ethiopian citizenship automatically; how far is this the case in practice?

          • Selam Abraham H.,

            I really do not know the details, but I remember years ago (may be more than ten yrs), a friend who visited ethiopia told me that he got a paper (officially or unofficially, I do not know), which said that he was an ethiopian by origin, and he could avoid paying in foreign currency, for example, in hotels.
            It is true that you lose citizenship automatically if you acquire another citizenship, but i think that if you invest in ethiopia, or if you return to live permanently in ethiopia and if you demand for your ethiopian citizenship, it should not be a problem.
            This is what the law says:
            A person who was an Ethiopian national and who has acquired foreign nationality by law shall be re-admitted to Ethiopian nationality if he:
            -returns to domicile in Ethiopia;
            -renounces his foreign nationality; and
            -applies to the Authority for re-admission.

          • blink

            Dear Mr grim
            Eritreans were defined from 1940th not in 1993. You just read wrong book wrote by Gencide mentality of Ethiopian leaders.

        • Selam Berhe Y.,

          The eritrean referendum was a finished fact before it was carried out. It would have been unbelievable if eplf had accept a ‘no’ vote after 30 yrs of war of independence, and the eritrean people voted ‘no’, again, after 30 yrs of propaganda and brainwashing it had undergone. As I had said some days ago, there was no reason for it, unless it was meant a PR thing for internal and external consumption. Unlike the referendums you mentioned above or Brexit, it was not meant to show the will of the people, but to show to the world that eplf’s decision was supported by the eritrean people, and to give eplf a democratic face. Whatever happened during the referendum was the will of the gun and propaganda, and not the will of free people.
          To a certain extent DIA knew the consequences of eritrean independence. MZ had said at one point that even if IA wanted to remain with ethiopia under some sort of arrangement, the people would not have accepted it. Eplf officials were fooled by appeasing their fears by believing that they would have their way with ethiopia for ever, and that proved to be a grave mistake.

          (I fail to understand, “Now the Eritreans who were in Ethiopia would have been affrected but the majority of Eritreans would not make a difference if they lose their citizenship or not.”, for eritrea was part of ethiopia and all eritreans were also ethiopians at the time.)

      • blink

        Dear Mr grim
        EPLF did a favor to Ethiopia by not dismantling it to too many states. Eritreans did vote just to make sure the Federation thing was not enough for Eritrea. Ethiopians has no business in determining the referendum nor the out come of the revolution. We did it by crushing every evil arm twisting by Ethiopian leaders and their backers. Deal with the reality or go crazy with the agazians or may be with afar state in exile for the coming 1000 years to come.

        • Mez

          Good Day Blink,

          So far so good your narration accepted as it is:
          ልክ እንደ ወረደ ካኙቺኖ…. today is Saturday

          1) Where are we now, in the Eritrean project, and

          2) where are we going to be in another 25 years from now according to your analysis and model forecasting?

          Thanks

          • blink

            Dear Mez
            Are you the old mizan , I thought you are the one , if so , I rest my case

        • mt girm

          Selam Blink,
          I’m pretty impressed!! This is the most compelling argument i have read when it comes to why the referendum was held. So, you are saying the liberation war was from The time the UN federated Eritrea with Ethiopia till 1991 and the vote was to reverse the Federation! The one lingering Question is, would EPLF have settled for Federation if they had lost the referendum.

          • blink

            Dear Mr grim
            You missed the chanting at EPLF from the public “why referendum while we paid our blood “the public was not even happy we need approval from the world,EPLF knew from 1980th that referendum was the right thing to do but not the primary question of the people,Eritreans from every corner knew they won.

          • mt girm

            Selam Blink,
            EPLF can only go from one legal end to the other, that is the internationally recognized Federation.
            Legally, the liberation war can not take them past the Federation.
            In order to declare independence and void the Federation the referendum was necessary.

          • blink

            Dear mt girm
            The truths about Eritreans claim to their own cause was never so well understood as by those who have lost the power of reasoning. I think we can all agree that most Ethiopians in 1952 never even know Eritrea and Eritreans except the big powers plus the Feudal system .

          • mt girm

            Selam blink,
            TPLF was representing Eritrea more than Ethiopia at the time. Otherwise they could have legally fought to keep Eritrea Federated. Instead of amassing Tanks to reveres Eritrea’s independence today, They could have done it by a stroke of a pen in 1993.

          • blink

            Dear mt grim
            I think you need to revisit the reality of 1993 , after that we can at least chat about it . In 1993 even the whole Tigrai people would normally vote for independent Eritrea. EPLF was the Eastern Africa super power , any force in Ethiopia was not match at that time . Actually the whole Ethiopian people was fade up by the long bloody war with Eritreans somalians and many other countless fatigue.

          • mt girm

            Selam Blink,
            In today’s world, the victory you gained by shedding blood, they neutralize it by imposing economic sanctions; that is why we are talking about International recognition, referendum, citizenship and above all peace. Heroic victory has to bare fruit at the end of the day. Otherwise, you can’t even lift it from the dust it has sucked somewhere in a storage.

          • blink

            dear mt grim
            We have heard many of it , we will come back roaring after the dictator .

          • mt girm

            Selam Blink,
            That is my dream!! We’ll stand by in your struggle.
            best wishes
            MT

          • mt girm

            Selam blink,
            I would also like to add that an Ethiopian government would have argued their case at the UN and the UN will settle it by holding a referendum. But then, Ethiopia would have restricted participation and do everything in their power to fail it

  • mt girm

    selam Horizon,
    My response is awaiting approval due to the legal connotation! hopefully they will post it!

  • Abi

    Hi Horizon
    I have watched the whole referendum drama live in Addis.
    Eritrean Arrogance was at the highest level. Only His Excellency Isayas Afewerki can deflate their arrogance.

    Their good for nothing Embassy was busy Laundering money instead of explaining the consequences of the referendum.
    ኤርትራ የግላችን ኢትዮጵያ የጋራችን kind of arrogance.

    • Haile S.

      Hi Abi,
      ሆድ ያባውን Abi ያወጣዋል
      ሰሚ አስካለ ይደጋግመዋል
      ችግሩ በሰሚና ባድማጭ ልዩነቱ
      ሳያውቀው ኣይመስለኝም ኣንደበቱ
      የሱ ደስታ ሆነዋል እሪ እሪ ብቻ ማለቱ።

      • Abi

        Gashe
        አድማጭ ጠፍቶ እኮ ነው እንዲህ ጉድ የሆንከው
        ሽፍታ ተከትለህ ገደል የገባኽው::
        ብትሰማኝ ኖሮ የነገርኩህ ጊዜ
        አጃጃለህ እንጂ የያዘህ አባዜ
        አንተን መሳይ ጉብል በሽፍታ ሲታለል
        እንደ ሞያ ቆጥረህ ጣል አርጎ መኮብለል
        በል አታስለፍልፈኝ ለዛሬ ይበቃሃል
        ሁሉንም ካወሱት ሆድ ባዶ ይቀራል::
        አብዮታዊ!!!!

        • Haile S.

          ሰላም ኣቢ፣
          ሽፍታ ኣልክ

          ሽፍትነትና ጀግንነት የት ኣለ ልዩነቱ
          የመጀመርያው የቅጽል ስም ሁለተኛው የጥምቀቱ
          የሚያገለግል ለማስመለስ፣ ባመጽ ለተወስደው መብቱ
          ባይነሳ ባይሸፍት ኣንድ ለእናቱ
          መች ኢትዮጵያ ኣገር ትሆን ነበር አንደዛሬይቱ።

          • Abi

            Gashe
            ምንድን ነው በምሽት ይህ ሁሉ እሮሮ
            አንተ የሸፈትከው እንደ እውር ወደ ጏሮ
            አንተ ብትሸፍት ብታነሳ ብረት
            ክብርህን ጣጥለህ ብታድር ባርነት
            ብትኮራ ብትፎክር በባዶ ነፃነት
            በሳቅ ሙትት አለ ታናሽህ አብነት
            የት ይደርሳል ያልነው ያ ታላቁ ኃይሌ
            ለካስ አልተሻለም ከነቃ ብርሌ
            ሽፍታ አታለለው አልሶ አሞሌ
            አቢቲ ሳቀብህ አራዳው ጩልሌ😜

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኣቢ፡
            ምነው ቁጣ ቁጣ ይልሃል ትግሬ ነህ መሰለኝ 🙂

          • Abi

            Gashe
            ተቆጣሁ እንዴ? አንተን? ጋሽዬን? ቁጣ ወደ ላይ የለም
            እዋይ አንታ ግደፍ!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Abi,
      You display your “eloquence ” yet you seem to be either purposely ignorant or something I don’t know. But there is something called qualifier in any language. All Eritreans are arrogant? What then, all Ethiopians are humble? Your behavior is the exhibit. Please revisit your blanket insult.

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Saleh
        You got a point here. I should have said “a great majority of Eritreans ” instead.
        Please forgive my ignorance.
        Did you know Eritreans were armed at that time? That is a great example of arrogance.

        • Saleh Johar

          Okay Abi,
          As your toyalty used to say. “We” have accepted your apology, we have forgiven you.
          Who was not armed at that time? Even Tela bet owners were armed.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I suggest you check your information.
            Nobody was armed as a group at that time. Even the former ESEPA members were disarmed. If you remember most the medium and high officials were in jail at a military camp just out side of Addis. The lower level members were forced to report to their kebele every week and signed an attendance sheet. No civilian was allowed to be armed.
            Eritreans were armed by their government. They used to participate in a group meeting every week. There were cells of individuals everywhere in Addis where Eritreans meet. Attendance was a must.
            Anyway, who am I to lecture you? You know it all.

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Just curious, what was the reason for Eritreans to meet every week?

          • Abi

            Paul
            ለመንቃት! ለመደራጀት!! ለመታጠቅ!!! አገር ለመጠበቅ!!!!

          • Paulos

            Thanks Abisensation.

  • Robel Cali

    Hello everyone,

    Aside from lacking a credible source, the story also doesn’t make sense from a military standpoint.Why would fighter planes, who use expensive weapons, be sent to attack a fishing boat? That’s the job of attack helicopters, which the UAE has plenty of in Assab.

    • Peace!

      Selam Robel,

      Just curious are you a military expert, or do you have experience, even a bit? If you do, UAE is hiring military experts because they do not know what they are doing.

      Peace!

  • darrel

    Hi friends

    I would like to come visit Eritrea, where should I go? I’m from Canada

  • Nitricc

    Greetings: i don’t if you people are following the US politics but i used to think that the American democracy is strong and the checks and balance to be stronger. How is it possible one person can knock the whole system down? Trump might go down with this Russian thing but i am stunned with what he is getting away so far?

  • Dear All,

    What will be the fate of an eritrean fisherman if he is going to face danger, whenever he gets out to the sea to catch fish, which is the basis of his living? Is the uae acting as a client or as a master? Is eritrea being dragged into unchartered waters of regional politics by meddling in somebody else’s problem? Whether we believe the news or not, is it possible that such complications are going to happen in the future, as long as the uae will continue to worry about the safety of its airbase in assab, and will react irrationally puting in danger the lives of the local population?

    • Peace!

      Hi Horizon,

      I am just curious you seem to care more for Eritreans than for your fellow thousands dying Ethiopians in the streets of almost every province and denied free movement under the pretext state of emergency. you have a bigger fish to fry.

      If you think Eritreans made a bad choice for fighting and voting for independence, let them deal with their own problems.

      Peace!

      • Hi Peace,

        If ethiopians die, they die fighting for their rights.
        Eritrea is under a permanent state of emergency since 2000, and you seem to be unaware of it. Can you move from one region to another without a permit paper?
        Why do you want to hide everything, and you complain of lecturing when ever somebody speaks about them?
        Enjoy your independence without freedom. Ethiopians have no problem with your independence. The problem is that young eritreans are forced to run away from it, because it is suffocating them, and they have chosen refugee camps instead of the independence you say you have given them. Try to understand them and give eritreans a chance to live in peace and dignity in their own country. Unfortunately, you have made them the scattered people. This is the legacy of your government and its supporters.
        እማማ ethiopia has found her way in the world. Simply, she is saying, make sure your blunder does not overflow the border to her side. The faustian contract is going to blow in your face one day, when they start to demand more than you can give.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Horizon; Well, do you know there are people so lazy they commit a crime to go to prison just for the food and shelter than work and support themselves? exactly, not that anything wrong with Eritrea or her independence, rather the lazy people are coming to you so they don’t have to work to earn a living. If you stop feeding them and stop capitalizing their misery; may be they will become productive member of society.

          • Hi Nitricc,
            For christ’s sake, try to understand them just for a minute. It is hundreds of thousands of them, and they cannot all be wrong.

          • Thomas

            Hi Selam Nitricc,

            You just showed that you have no idea or you are just an idiot when you wrote, “exactly, not that anything wrong with Eritrea or her independence, rather the lazy people are coming to you so they don’t have to work to earn a living.” So, you think those fleeing the crimes of your masters are lazy people as if carrying a gun and sitting on the mounts, terrains, deserts and jungle is a real job. What is the job that your criminal masters provided these youth refused to take? Can you mention if there are any private companies, government job recruiting or anything that these youth are avoiding to work? Your ignorance is beyond my imagination, really!

        • Peace!

          Selam Horizon,

          I didn’t say Eritrea is doing well unless you want to divert the subject, I said you seem to care too much for Eritreans than for your fellow Ethiopians. If you can’t explain that, I have no problem too just spare me from your emotional wreck.

          As for እማማ Ethiopia needs you, my understanding is many Ethiopians are sayingኢትዮጵያዊነት በግድ የተጫነብን ማንነት ነው በድንዙዝ የደብተራ ነገስታት ድግምት and perhaps for that reason at least 3 countries are emerging from እማማ Ethiopia, ከአንገት በታች እነ ኦሮሚያ ሪፐብሊክ፡ጋምቤላ፡ቤንሻንጉል ጊምዝ፡ኦጋዴንያ ፡ከላይ ትግራይ ሪፐብሊክ ሊመሠረቱ ጣጣቸውን ጨርሰዋል፡፡ እያሉ ነው. Just wanted to pass that information since you are here 24/7 worrying about Eritreans, much appreciated though:)

          Peace!

          • Selam Peace,

            The problem is that you fail to understand that your problem has already become our problem too. With 165k in refugee camps and so many in the ethiopian society, and with ethiopia’s economy that cannot solve the problem of her own people, let alone that of eritreans, we have a time bomb that is going to explode one day in ethiopia’s hands. These are young people who cannot stay in refugee camps for ever, and cannot be assimilated into the ethiopian society, because they are foreigners. Therefore, your problem is already our problem too, and we cannot help but discuss it.
            Now, you are throwing stones while you yourself is living in a glass house. You seem to ignore the lowland/highland, christian/muslim, the 77/23 percent divide, the arabization of eritrea some people are dreaming of, the desire of the afar people, etc. Ethiopia is trying to solve the controversies of her society through economic development and self-rule. If people see the merit of economic development for all, and they can decide themselves on their everyday life, they have no reason to move away from each other. It is not yet fully accomplished, nevertheless, they are moving in that direction. Hadi hizbi, hadi libi, trying to create a monolithic society out different entities and demand for blind respect for authorities are not going to create a stable and united country.

          • Peace!

            Selam Horizon,

            Well, worrying about Eritrean problems is one thing -stretching your hands in someone else’s country is also another thing. If you accept Eritrea as independent nation, then leave the choice for Eritreans to make their country whatever they wish.

            I think we have enough crocodile tears your likes.

            Peace!

          • Selam Peace,
            “ leave the choice for eritreans to make their country whatever they wish.”
            Whatever has happened and is happening in eritrea is not the choice or the common decision of all eritreans. No nation as a whole brings such a predicament to itself, unless it is the work of a group of people who rule in a totalitarian way, ignoring the rule of law and human rights. Who gave them the right to make out of their country whatever they wish? It is equivalent to saying the unsc and the world community as a whole has no right whatsoever with what happens to the eritrean people inside eritrea. Eritrea and the eritrean people are not the private property of the eritrean regime.

          • Peace!

            Selam Horizon,

            Obviously you run out of juice- time for recharge. Sovereignty and regime are two different things, and you are neither a united nation nor a spokesman for the oppressed Eritreans. Ethiopia has been an independent (sovereign) country for the last three thousands of years despite countless oppressive regimes, vicious genocide and ethnic cleansing; regardless, only Ethiopians shall decide their own fate, nobody else certainly not Eritreans.

            Peace!

          • blink

            Dear Horizon
            Let’s advertise this website and especially the forum to Oromo and some Amhara ,then we Eritreans will stay silent while you try to discuss your love for each other. At that moment peace and people like me will learn from the first hand . That would be fun to watch the people like Eyob , Hayat and other EPRDF Cadres

          • sara

            Blink,
            Interesting point.

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            Your attachment and at the same anger towards the Ethiopians will never go away. Horizon has the truth and what is wrong if he as citizen of a neighbor country sympathizes with our cause. Most of all, he is seeing Eritrean youth fleeing by thousands to his country. It is not like his country men and women are running to Eritrea. The entire world has ignored to respond to our causes and back us up to tackle our problems. However, it is not like the cannot see what is happening to us. If people like Horizon speak on the disgusting things happening, what is wrong with that? I wish if I was born as an Ethiopian. There is no comparison between what is happening in their country and our country. Ours is despicable.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            That’s too obvious and no one is denying that and your quick judgment is not helping you either, this is what he said:

            “You seem to ignore the lowland/highland, christian/muslim, the 77/23 percent divide, the arabization of eritrea some people are dreaming of, the desire of the afar people, etc.”

            That’s his real concern, not Eritrean lives.

            Please!

          • Hi Peace,
            Don’t worry. Thomas may know amharic, and he understands very well why I said what I said. If ethiopia is in danger of disintegration, as you said above, eritrea is not immune to it. Controversies are everywhere. Don’t throw stone while you have a similar problem. Disintegrtion of eritrea is not my wish, as it is for you in relation to ethiopia.

          • Peace!

            Selam Horizon,

            You could have said I misspoke very simple:) it is fine we all

            make mistakes when emotion dictates.

            Peace!

          • Aron

            Hi Thomas,
            You don’t have to wish. You can fit right in, cross the border and tell them you were born in alamata, pay three people to testify for you as their cousin 100.00 Ethiopian birr each. Boom you got your ID, you’re Ethiopian. Case closed. Your wish come true. If you don’t wish to be Eritrean you are not going to be good Eritrean. It is better for you and Eritrea to go part ways.

          • Thomas

            Hi Aron,

            I take your suggestion seriously. If what you are saying is true, it will be an honor for me try to be. That way I don’t have to deal with idiots like you and the rest who up-voted you above. .

          • mt girm

            Selam Thomas,
            If your are born after the unification. you are an Ethiopian by birth!!

          • Thomas

            Hi Mt grim,

            Both of my parents are Eritrean. If being born after unification was a requirement, our awatista “peace” who had lived in Ethiopia was not supposed to deported. Do you think the Ethiopian ruling party has a policy that you are stating? I guess Abi can help to clarify how this is to work😀😀

          • mt girm

            The deportation is illegal, No ‘yes or no’ questionnaire can denie Eritreans their citizenship. Eritreans should have been legally notified by the Ethiopian gov that by voting ‘yes’ they will lose their Ethiopian citizenship, Do you have such a legal notice? Regardless of where your parents are born, if you are born in that era, you are an Ethiopian, This issue will be debated in international courts pretty soon,There should also be a legal process to renounce one’s birth citizenship. The Hague will decide that sooner or later. There will be no willy- nilly revocation of one’s citizenship!!

          • Selam mt girm,

            Don’t you think that the eritrean referendum had everything to do with renouncing ethiopian citizenship, and both eplf (that was representing the eritrean people) and tplf knew very well what they were doing. Tplf used the ‘no double citizenship card’, when things got sour between them. Otherwise, things would have remained so that eritreans would have a double citizenship despite the ethiopian constitution.
            The problem is not giving ethiopian citizenship to respectable, friendly and peace loving eritreans like K.S., Thomas and others, but allowing into ethiopia the toxic ones, who are not going to hate ethiopia less, whatever she does for them. Such people do not deserve anything from ethiopia, whatsoever.

          • mt girm

            Selam Horizon,
            Dual citizenship and Birth citizenship are to different issues, Eritreans must have gone through a legal process to renounce their birth citizenship. Ethiopia should have given a legal notice that Dual citizenship will not be accepted before Eritreans were asked to vote on the referendum, That will be the bases for the litigation. you see, EPLF was not representing Eritreans; they were representing Ethiopians of Eritrean origin who are yet to make a decision. You could have fought for
            self- determination and not for independence ,

          • Abi

            Hi mt girm
            Your comment is a perfect demonstration of how Eritrean Doublethink works.
            It is interesting to read an Eritrean fighting to claim an Ethiopian citizenship a week from Independence Day.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            You should be the last person to make that statement given after twenty five years, you are still suffering from emotional obsession with Eritrea.

            Did you get a chance (I know you have lots of free time:)) to listen to the new Tedi’s, የኣፄዎች ኣሽከር, Album?

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            ምነው እራስህን አንቱ አልከው?
            ያየሽ አያልፍሽም የቀመሰሽ አይደግምሽም !

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Nah nah nah…I am talking about ደሀ በህልሙ ቂቤ ባይበላ ኖሮ ደርቆ ይሞት ነበር. Keep dreaming:)

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            የነፃነት ባቡር የጨፈለቀህ ምስኪን! አንጀት ትበላለህ

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            I know it hurts so bad, sorry እድልህ ነው የኔ ወንድም. ለዛሬ እዚህ ይብቃህ እኔ ደሞ heading to Concert. Have a nice weekend.

            Peace!

          • mt girm

            Selam Abi,
            Eritreans don’t need to fight for their Ethiopian citizenship; It’s their Birthright.
            If an English is born in France after EU and had voted for Brexit, does that person automatically lose his/her EU citizenship without legal notice? We might be forced to defend ourselves in court if they file a claim, and the compensation that we might have to fork is a scary concept.

          • Peace!

            Selam Thomas,

            Dying laughing, good one! Seriously though I never said I wish I were an Ethiopian although nothing wrong with that except that I am an Eritrean. The irony is that people are trying to help you make your wish come true, to be an Ethiopian, but your ቁልውላው is so serious to the extent you don’t even know what you really want.

            ** on separate note, I do not have problem with the beautiful ለምለም country Ethiopia; my problem is with TPLF apologists, and with Ethiopians suffering from emotional obsession with Eritrea, like Abi, Horizon, and likes.

            Peace!

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            እንታይ እዩ እማማ Ethiopia ክትላዓል ኮላ ቁሪ ቁሪ ዘብለካ? ደሓር ካኣ ናይ መንነት ቁሉውላው ሽግርካ ብኸምዚ ኣይፍታሕን እዩ. ወርዝይ ዝሓወይ:)

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            I don’t know what the hell you are talking about anymore. I don’t have an identity crises as you have, because you are the only person who like to say tplf did this and tplf is doing that. I am focused to see problems in my country resolved. I see the so called tplf in my own country and they are confusing me. I hate your kinds of tplf working from inside my country. I know you pretend to dislike the kinds of Issayas tplfs, the Hagos Kisha tplfs and all those who have a first generation tplf blood afresh. Again, go back and read what I said, “I wish I was born as an Ethiopian”. How is this equal = I wish I was an Ethiopian. To be born is to belong and to wish if you were born is something else. Listen, you can try to twist and get a false conclusion of what I said. I don’t care, I am trying to help you understand what is written. Have I ever asked anyone to try to assist me to become an Ethiopian, NO. You have lived there eating their lunches and dinners and day-in and day-out you seem to show them tough love though:)

          • Peace!

            Selam Thomas,

            ኣርፈህ ብትቀመጥ ይሻለሀል you are not making any sense, full of ዓጀውጀው. I told you many times this forum is diversified thus it is normal to focus on variety of issues. In other words, I do not raise the same issue with different people. You can go back and read my comments.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            You claim to be an Eritrean but talk too much about Ethiopia and almost none about Eritrea confusing. Your true color is exposed. I see why the Ethiopians discussing on this forum have hard time understanding your stand. Why don’t you just tell us that you are an Ethiopian and your emotion and knowledge is limited when it comes discussing Eritrea.

          • Peace!

            Selam Thomas,

            How many times do I have to tell you! I reply to different posts with different issues. I only raise Ethiopian issue only with Ethiopians (the hypocrite ones); I raise PFDJ issues with ገልጣማት PFDJ supporters; I raise Eritrean opposition issue with ዝምልከቶም. And I do not give orders for people to focus on certain issues. With that in mind, I really do not care if Thomas talks about identity 24/7:)

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Selam peace,

            Whenever there is an Ethiopian comment, you quick crawl yourself & bluff the same thing like you always say. TPLF killed amara or oromo & so on so forth. The Ethiopians are telling to leave them along once for all. How hard is this to understand. They don’t need you to tell about what is going on in their own country!!

          • Aron

            Dear Thomas,
            I don’t know why you are so mad @ me. All I am saying is it is not hard for Eritrean and Somalian to become an Ethiopian. You said you wish you were Ethiopian. All you got to do to become one is have three witnesses and go to court. Eritreas problem will pass I hope with the regime. If we don’t go to religion war initiated by the moslem extremists who don’t recognize the existence of habesha civilization and the agazians who want to exterminate the moslems, eritreas problem is dictatorship. So don’t wish for a lot of things. Fight for democracy. I actually have a lot of respect for Tigray unlike your description of me. I am firm believer of the Tigrinya people should unite since there’s not a lot of us. I also believe our border should extend to alewha. I also believe all Eritreans should live in harmony regardless of religion, ethnicity, language or any other marker or identifier like lowland or highland. And please enough of your abusive language.

  • Lost Gedli Generation

    Dearest Awatistas,

    The UAE airforce could not differentiate between fishing rods and anti air craft gunships, because of the similarity in the eyes of the genius Arabs ! We have to remmember that the red sea fishes also fly like planes so ,they could have been mistaken for enemy planes flying really low. And comprehending the genius of the Arabs ,I am sure there must have been some sharks working as undercover mosad /Yihudi agents ,so the genius Arabs had no choice but to bombard !

    • Paulos

      Selam Erican,

      This kind of mistake is inexcusable. Fishes? It is fish including for plural. Memhir Kidane (Comboni) is probably rolling his eyes.

      • Abi

        Hi Paul
        You should have asked if the Red Sea sharks resemble submarines?

        • Paulos

          Abisensation,

          You’re something. That’s funny. Is it because they’re well fed?

          • Abi

            Paul
            ከተናግሮ አናጋሪ ይሰውርህ::
            አሜን በል!

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Here is a joke I heard a while back. Isaias gets a letter from World Olympic Cat Race asking him if he is willing to send Eritrean cats to compete in the race. Isaias reluctantly sends the cats and the cats participate. The race was on and to the surprise of everyone watching, the Eritrean cats not only came out first but broke world record as well. The committee got suspicious and decided to conduct an investigation but it turned out the cats were clean with no enhancing drugs. But the investigation still went on. Later on the cats decided to defect but again the police of the host country were willing to comply only in one condition—provided the cats tell the truth. The cats eventually agreed to tell the truth about the secret behind the stunning victory. The appointed leader of the cats said, they are actually Tigers who look like cats due to chronic malnutrition.

          • sara

            ato-paulos,
            honestly,very distasteful comment (joke) to say the least.

          • Aron

            Hi all
            I concur

          • Abi

            Paul
            That is funny. I wonder what IA sends for camel race? Do you have motorized 🐫 🐫. You know as pioneers of modern technology in the region I expect inventions like motorized camels, self riding cuccinetas, remote controlled ካቻ ቪቴ, …

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            You sure gonna get me in trouble with Awatistas. Here is another joke. The trainer for the Eritrean marathon runners was training them for the upcoming competition. After he was done for the day, he went home and before he knew it he heard a big bung on his door. When he opened the door, a couple of security agents in a civilian outfit said to him that he was needed at the maEkelawi mirmera. And the guy went along. When he asked what it was that he was accused of, one of the agent said to him that, someone at the training field today heard you saying to the trainees that, “Here is a secret that can help you run faster and help you win the marathon, just imagine in your head that the finish line is the Ethiopian border.”

          • Abi

            Paul
            ቅዱስ ዻዉሎስ ይከተልህ
            There are many ways for an Eritrean to win a long distance race. The best way is to pretend an Ethiopian at every race.
            Do you think Zeresenay is የከሳ ኦሮሞ?

            Some years back my son was playing FIFA 15. He chose Eritrean national team ( the camels 🐫 🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫🐫) as his team. He lost the first game. Unfortunately, He did not get a second chance to play because all the players defected.

          • Paulos

            Thank you Abisensation. And the same to you my brother.

          • sara

            ato-paulos
            you said the sharks are well fed, is it because they are eating malnutrition-ed cats in the south of the red sea?

          • Abi

            Sariti
            Do you put some kind of liquor in your coffee sometimes?
            Try Kerrygold Irish Cream instead.

      • Lost Gedli Generation

        Dearest Paulos,
        I guess when Isaias would not late us eat the red sea fish ,we lost our intelligence.You know how omega 3 is is necessary for brain nutrition.በቲ ዝኹእሎ ትግርኛኸ እንተዝጽሕፍ እንታይ ጸሊእካ !! ??? ትግርኛ ናይ ተጋሩ ስለ ዝኾነስ ዓጋመ ከይብሃል ፈሪሔ እኳ እየ።ከምቲ ሓድሽ ህዝበ ትግርኛ ዝብል ብሄር ዝምሃዝና፣ሓድሽ ቋንቋ ህዝበ ትግርኛ ድማ ክንምህዝ ይግብኣና።ግን ክኣ ዓጋመ ካብ ባድመ ክሳዕ ዝወጹ, ንሕና እውን እቲ ቋንቍኦም ክንጥቀመሉ ኢና።እቲ ቋንቋ ዲማርኬትድ ክሳዕ ዝኸውን ክንጥቀመሉ ንኽእል ኢና።ካብዚ ቋንቋ ናይ ዓጋመ (ትግርኛ) ገዲፍና ወጻእና ማለት ጽሓይ መሊሳ ኣይትበርቕን እያ ማለት እዩ።እቲ ቋንቋ ኣግዲፎምና ጽሓይ እንደገና እንተወጺኣ ድማ እታ ጽሓይ እውን ዓጋመ እያ ማለት እዩ።
        Thanks for the correction ,could I still say sheeps though ? ha..I guess I am not only brilliant ,but also humorous !

        • Sahay Erican

          Dear Saint ጣውሎስ,

          Please for give me for my interjection. How do you know the Lost Gedli Generation is Erican? And who told you Erican was a student at “Comboni”?

          ጣውሎስ, I like you when you are really funny, but not this time. Didn’t I say “So long” to the honourable CEO of this website and continued marching on my journey?

          Do you have a life outside this site? Please don’t disturb:)

          • Paulos

            Selamat Erican,

            Are you familiar with true-postive, false-positive, true-negative and false-negative? It is a statistical tool mainly utilized with in the medical field to substantiate sensitivity or specificity say of a particular diagnostic tool. Starting from the “Dearest” thing all the way to the content and purpose of your comment led me to believe that it is true-postive Erican with high specificity.

  • hh

    ሰላማት።
    እውይ እዚ ዜና እዚ ብጣዕሚ ዶንጉኹም ኣውጺኹሞ ሕጂ ድኣ እቲ በይዝ ተሰሪሑ ህዝቢ ኽኣ ናይ UAE ኣብ ዓሰብ ምህላው ጽቡቅ ውጽኢት ክርኤሉ
    ምስ ጀመረ መን ክሰምዓኩም።

  • Musa Hodale

    Those who deny the death of our people are stupid EPDJ supporters. We know Mr. Robel , Mr. Isyas and like minds are ready to deny our sufferings. But this is not fabrication, and it happened on the daylight at the middle of the sea; families are mourning, while your junta is denying access to the sick. Don’t make mistake, these people are those protected Eritrean struggle army during its infancy stage.

    • Robel Cali

      HI Musa,

      In order for me to deny something happened, you must first prove it really did happen. Where is your evidence?

      • Musa Hodale

        Hi Robel,
        I appreciate your curiosity for evidence, but can you falsify it? Do you ask for evidences when somebody report incidents from other area?
        Or you think those people are immortal? We didn’t say Robel himself responsible for their death. Anyway , call Asseb or Eddi if you want to prove.

        • Robel Cali

          Hello Musa,

          The burden of proof is on the person making the accusation. For example, I can say aliens from another galaxy live in my basement. Then you come along asking for proof. I can’t come back and say, “but can you falsify it?”

          I didn’t need to call Nora island (not that it’s possible) to know Egypt was never going to build a military base there. And I certainly don’t need to call Assab to know no one was killed by the UAE.

          • Musa Hodale

            Thanks for your time Robel. I am busy with those aliens from other planet who were killed by your government.

  • Robel Cali

    Hi everyone,

    Awate is quoting RSADO as if this bogus, TPLF-created group is reputable when just two weeks ago, they were caught with their pants down making up a lie of an Egyptian naval base on Nora Island. Ignoring the fact Nora can not sustain such a base without billions of dollars worth of infrastructure (money that Egypt does not have to burn), now they are trying to say UAE, which is directly and indirectly providing hundreds of jobs for the locals, is killing faceless people that probably didn’t even exist. It’s like they create fake news every two weeks through Sudan Tribune, Awate and other websites. You can see the pattern. I have no doubt the Ethiopian regime is behind these fake stories. And no I will not post my sources, I will take the Awate approach and hope you take my word for it.

    • Mez

      Dear Robel,

      Don’t worry; expect more of such tragic news. The opposition fighters in Yemen seem to have the means and the power to target the military base in Assab. It is a matter of the dynamics of the conflict, and a question of time.

      Thanks

      • Robel Cali

        Hello Mez,

        Who is the opposition in Yemen? The Houthis and their allies are the legitimate government. So the opposition in Yemen are the Hadramaut rebels, which UAE supports and the Hadi and Al-Qaeda group, which Saudi Arabia supports. So we know the Hadramaut rebels aren’t going to attack UAE. So are you banking on Al-Qaeda to attack them?

        Assuming you meant the Houthis will attack, well then they have to avoid the U.S. naval fleets patrolling the Red Sea. And why is it only Eritrea deserves to be hit? Why not Djibouti, which has the Saudis, U.S. and other groups involved in the Yemeni conflict? Why is it those who claim they are Eritrean opposition want to see destruction of Eritrea so bad?

        As far as i’m concerned, the Houthis will never hit Assab. They are far more interested in hitting Saudi Arabia, which is responsible for all this mess.

        • Mez

          Dear Robel,

          You know exactly whom I meant; and you got the message. Don’t be very verbose as that won’t change facts on the ground.

          If you can, try to influence the Eritrean government not to impersonate conflicts in the region.

          Thanks.

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Robel Cali,
      Thank you for this piece of news. UAE is directly and indirectly providing hundreds of jobs for the locals. I didn’t read that in Haddas Eritrea.

      • Musa Hodale

        Hi Abrehet,
        What kind of job you talk about while civilians are targeted by Apache and other Modern military hardwares on daily bases in their home. I wonder if you talk about the money they provided to your Master in exchange of Asseb, and other areas Dankalia?

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Musa,

          Abrehet is being sarcastic in challenging Robel Cali, a sympathizer of the regime. She is challenging him to the news he provided “UAE, which is directly and indirectly providing hundreds of jobs for the locals”.

          She didn’t this news of job creation in dimtsi Hadish.

          Berhe

          • Musa Hodale

            OK.Berhe. sorry about that. I took it serous.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Musa,
            The regime didn’t disclose that UAE has a base. But when, us, the poor citizen’s learn about the death of our family members, the regime supporters tell us that UAE base is providing jobs. hh also has stated above in Tigrigna that the UAE base in Asseb is completed and that the people see it as a good outcome. Of course, neither hh nor Robel Cali would state this piece of news in an open PFDJ meeting.

  • Nitricc

    Hi AT, i don’t know what to make it out of your report but you are not disclosing your source. I understand when you report so and so is arrested and so and so died in prison that all internal news and in the absence of private press, it is understood that no one will press you for your resource. However; when you report something, for one never substantiated the existence of UAE in Eritrea officially and two, to claim such a big news, i think it is wise for you to revile your resources. now, who is your sources for such loaded news?

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Nitricc
      I think their source Is someone from the administration of Zoba debub qeyh bahri. If you guarantee his safety, they might tell you the name of their source.

      • Fasil

        Nitric,
        Mmmm, I wonder where the picture is photoshopped? That fishing boat is from Vietnam I think..

      • Nitricc

        Hey SJ, I am looking out for awate.com and guarding not to become Assena.com that is all.

        • Mez

          Dear Nitric,

          According to your logic there is no UAE base in Eritrea, because the government didn’t acknowledge that.

          But Satellite Data clearly shows there is some new Airforce and Military hardware there. Could they be Eritrean or Egyptian ones; or you think the satellite data is refutable?

          Thanks

          • sara

            Dear Mez,
            what is wrong if the UAE has an air base,naval base,military base in Eritrea? the UAE is a friendly country who had supported the Eritrean cause from the days of the armed struggle.
            as they say a friend in need…..
            As an independent & sovereign nation eritrea will cooperate with any country for eritreas strategic interests.
            note, our neighbors also do it in their best interests, and no one could argue it is not their right.

          • Mez

            Good Day Sara,

            Nothing is wrong with it. At the end of the day what matters is the benefit, financially or otherwise.

            To say the least, it is ambivalent. Also you see on the news they kill indiscriminately; “what goes around comes around”.

            Thanks

          • sara

            Dear mez,
            I live in the region and I know what is going around
            But I also understand your concern.
            Eritrea involvement is not yet recognized as party to the conflict in Yemen… At least publicly in the region except in our media and few other’s.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Sara,

            I don’t think there would a problem if the deployment is for Eritreas interests and a mission that would not have consequences for Eritrea future generations.

            The mission of UAE and SA is to bomb Yemeni citizens and fuelling the civil war and causing series and long term consequences for the region and particularly for Eritrea.

            Why should Eritrea take sides and involve in this conflict which is so close to home.

            The UAE, Saudi and Iran are not doing the best for the Arab world and the Muslims all over the world.

            Eritrea sooner or later will pay for its involvement and it will have long term consequences.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            Are you saying “የአህያ ባል ከጅብ አያስጥልም”?

          • sara

            Dear berhe,
            Is Djibouti taking sides by providing bases to all those countries?
            Actually this has become economic rather than security issue to many in the region.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi sara,

            Are you saying Djibouti is involved in the war in Yemen ?

            The fact is not lost in you, why they need a base in Eritrea, so they can bomb Yemen directly.

            Why would Eritrea gets involved in Yemen civil war? What did the Yemen people did to us that we contribute to their misery?

            Just because SA can pay us money that we have to allow them to kill Yemeni people and including Eritreans?

            SA and others if they can they should mediate, if not should provide humanitarian aid, and they should they power to engage the international community to send peace keepers etc to find a solution.

            We may be pure but we should not sell our concise for bloody money.

            In my opinion the governments of SA or UAE are just cowards. If it wasn’t for the protection By the US and their dirty money (the west are happy to milk them by selling military hardware) Yemen would have walked all over them.

            Berhe

          • sara

            Dear Berhe,
            you said, Why would Eritrea gets involved in Yemen civil war? What did the Yemen people did to us that we contribute to their misery?
            Eritrea is not directly involved in the war , Sudan and others are. the Yemen people didn’t do us anything and what is going on is not about people , its about regional Geo politics.
            i hope you were not expecting me to bring the HANSIH conflict with Yemen and the aftermath Sana Forum into this ,,,non of it, Eritrea is not a party to the conflict except those minor logistical facilities in Asab , and that yet the government has not publicly state it.
            ato berhe, at least from what i know , Eritrea was asked to do more like others but refrained from dong so and those leading the coalition are not satisfied with that position and have stated it indirectly through their various mediums. despite all our disagreements with eritrean government on many issues , their publicly stated position on Yemen is … to respect Yemenis sovereignty, independence and unity.

    • Musa Hodale

      If you want to know the source call and ask.
      Please, don’t scratch our wounds.

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