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Mesfin Hagos: Before the Egg Hatches

This is part 2 of 3 series under the title of “Can Mesfin Hagos Lead Under a Banner of “One Country, One Destiny”? The third part will follow soon.

Eritrea and its people have been on a trajectory of existential threat for two decades from the very revolutionaries who brought the nation its independence. The golden egg that the revolution was supposed to hatch has yet to materialize. The only political golden egg for the powers-that-be appears to rest with one leader and one leader only. The coterie that’s running the nation seems to not believe in leaving a legacy that would last for generations to come. They are not in the hatching of golden egg business, socially, politically, or otherwise. Rather they are in the destruction of the social and political fabric of a society on behalf of whom they claim to have fought a revolutionary war for thirty years.

As such, Eritreans in diaspora and from inside the country have no options left but to fend off the wrongheaded system, they have been doing that since the aftermath of the 1998 – 2000 war with Ethiopia. They have not stopped trying both from within the country and without. The urgently needed change of a formidable political structure that has been erected and entrenched in Eritrea today requires a great deal of out-of-the box thinking. Thinking that it has teeth to bite, the bites of which need to be equivalent to that of a lion, a tiger, and a hyena combined. Thinking that consists of robust strategies and tactics that can compel the regime in Eritrea to come to the table to talk. Thinking that must include organization, mobilization, and galvanization of the highest order. What made Eritrea’s political structure to survive this long is the knack it has toward pragmatic political acumen.

This political pragmatism will force it to convene with any entity it deems as a threat. Each of the following avowals by some segments of Eritrean society, for example, was jostled by the regime with a great deal of tact. The Jehovah Witnesses were made to look pariahs by the Eritrean society at large when they refused to vote in the referendum. Exacting punishment – fitting one or not – after the public was made to collude with the regime, wasn’t that difficult to execute.

The cabinet ministers were made to look like they committed treason because they wanted pluralism in the political system. The public, again, fell in line with the regime. Making them vanish in the dungeons after that wasn’t that difficult to attain. The FORTO Uprising of 2013 was the closest it came to a real confrontation, militarily speaking, the regime did what it had to do to quell it swiftly.

The Akhriya uprising of 2017 as led by Haji Musa was another attempt at challenging the regime’s authority. Here, too, the regime was quick to spread the rumor that it was nothing more than Islamic uprising so other groups wouldn’t join in. Here, too, the regime quelled it effectively.

Of course, each of these attempts are chipping away at the power structure that exists in Eritrea today. At some unexpected time and date, the regime will be brought down, the how and the when of which is hard to envisage. Case and point, we are witnessing such a revolution in the making in Belarus today. After 26 years of ruling, Alexander Lukashenko has lost touch so much that he was booed by his own constituencies. The obliviousness of dictators is not isolated to Lukashenko, Qaddafi suffered from the same malady. The coterie in Eritrea is no different.

The diaspora political and social activism needs to find a way towards that goal. The Satellite TV outlets that Eritrean activists are transitioning towards, for example, is one that can exact the needed blow to the regime if executed right. A concept paper referenced below particularly addresses this very issue vis-à-vis the opposition satellite TVs. The impact Eritrean opposition satellite TVs are having inside Eritrea is a remarkable feat. The Concept Paper asserts that

“The key lessons from the tv broadcasting pilot over the last year is that it can be a catalyst for change and a most effective medium of communication with Eritrean’s inside and outside the country. If used sustainably and professionally, tv may well be the tool that will get the Eritrean people to rise up to repression and gain their independence from the yoke of Isaias’ rule” (p. 2).

No doubt media outlets can be lethal weapons that can serve as a tool that would expedite change. Examples abound, it would suffice to mention a few for illustration. Khomeini’s revolutionary ideas of 1979 germinated from abroad (France) in tandem with the people from within Iran. Cassette players were the technology that Khomeini had at his disposal and used it to a lethal blow. Iranian people rose up against Shah, the rest, as they say, is history of a revolution of a unique kind. What Iranians ended up getting is not the point, but how they conducted a successful revolution is.

While Iranians were conducting their revolution from the yoke of an autocrat, Eritreans were fighting tooth and nail a formidable occupier, the emperor of Ethiopia. The latter was deposed by his own people. Unfortunately, the Ethiopian regime that followed the toppling of the emperor maintained the same scorched earth policy as their predecessor did. Eritreans were left with no option but to continue the fight for the sovereignty of Eritrea and its people.

Such a revolution required not only a tenacious determination to fight, but also had to have a highly coordinated fighting mechanism that not only to sustain the fight but also to succeed, succeeding, indeed, it did. Some of those coordinated mechanisms are cassette players distributed worldwide wherever Eritreans were in diaspora, so they continued to be part of the larger struggle for independence. Of course, there were relentless artists like the late Yamane Ghebremichael “Baria” who kept Eritreans in diaspora engaged in their support for Eritrea’s dream of becoming a sovereign nation. I wish Professor Chefena, who has done some serious research on songs of the 1960 and 1970 Asmara would give a similar treatment to the revolutionary songs and their impact on Eritreans within and without during the thirty years revolutionary war.

Not only revolutionary songs through cassette tapes, but also VHS – Video Home System – were used as powerful optics to keep the public in exile motivated, galvanized, and organized. There were droves of young Eritreans who watched videos via VHS of Eritrea’s villages burned to the ground that triggered numerous young men who joined the revolution in the late 1970s from places like Saudi Arabia.

Fast forward some three decades, in 2009 Facebook became a household name around the globe.  We all have seen this phenomenon firsthand. In 2011 FB as a medium of communication played a critical role in the Arab Spring, particularly in Egypt.  Jawar Mohammed of Ethiopia’s Oromo Media Network (OMN) is another media story that is worth considering. ESAT is another instrumental media campaign that destabilized the strong political hold of EPRDF. Needless to say, ESAT was financially sponsored by no other than the political power structure that’s in Eritrea today, whom Eritreans in diaspora may just be the ones to give the regime the bitter taste of its own medicine. Eritreans need to figure out that unique element which can help expedite the direly needed change.

Satellite TVs are now serving as the seeds of change by the sheer ability to disseminate news throughout Eritrea. The use of making efficient use of Satellite TVs should become priority number one. The concern of these movement-based media outlets that receive their funding from the Eritrean public in diaspora, is the resistance they exhibit toward working together.

The meager resources that Eritreans are selflessly helping facilitate the needed wherewithal, these Satellite TV outlets must be frugal with the funding and use it wisely and conservatively; if they are going to have durability that can outdo and outlast the regime in its own game, they must begin to coordinate their insufficient resources so it isn’t made to deplete prematurely.

In other words, to be prepared for the long haul, to fight the painstakingly needed task of rallying Eritreans inside Eritrea and abroad until the demise of the regime is realized. Coordination will be a key to the revolution. An estimate from the Concept Paper indicates that about 90% of the Eritrean population has access to Satellite TVs. Locally made satellite TVs made it possible for such a high percentage of the population to own the dishes, which is allowing Eritreans inside Eritrea to access TV programs from far and near throughout the world. According to the Concept Paper, the Eritrean regime attempts to jam these Satellite TVs with little to no success.

One critically important matter that these opposition Satellite TVs must be keen to rectify is the cost: The cost based on twenty-four hours per day, at minimum one-month lease, ranges from $10,000 to $20,000 (Per the Concept Paper). So, sharing costs makes a great deal of sense. This will not only save the opposition satellite TVs a great deal of money but also will avert repeats or reruns, if you will, as well as avert “donation fatigue” that Eritreans abroad are experiencing.

The two articles as was stated before are meant to serve as a background and foreground for the next piece. As such, they are also meant to show the enormous challenges that lie ahead if someone is willing to take the leadership task to lead diaspora Eritreans. The Mesfin Hagos pivot can be made to succeed but there are numerous other issues that he must be willing to accept, as well the public willing to be led under one slogan, such as “one country, one destiny”. The task of explaining the challenges that lay in wait for Mesfin Hagos will be entertained in my final article that will follow in a few days.

Reference:
Concept Paper: Shared Satellite Platform

About Beyan Negash

Activist, a writer and I am a doctoral candidate (ABD) in Language, Literacy, and Culture at New Mexico State University (NMSU). I hold a bachelor of arts in English and a master of arts in TESOL from NMSU as well as a bachelor of arts in Anthropology from UCLA. My research interests are on colonial discourse and post-colonial theories and their hegemonic impact on patriarchy, cultural identity, literacy development, language acquisition as well as curriculum & citizenship. The geopolitics of the Horn of Africa interests me greatly. My writings tend to focus on Eritrea and Ethiopia. I have been writing opinion pieces at awate.com since its inception (1 September 2001).

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    ደሓር ካብ ትዕዝብተይ፡ ኤሪ ሳት ደጋጊሙ ዘጸውዐ፡ ዕዱም ኤርትራዊ፡ ዶክተር ዓዋተ፡ ሓው ኤርትራዊ ሒዝናልኩም ኣሎና አንዳ በለ፡ ብዛዓ ሑኩማ ኣሎ ዶ የለን ኣብ ሱዳን አንዳ በለ፡ ብዛዓባ ኣህዛብ ሸርቕ ኣልሱዳን ዘሎ ኣሻቕሎ ከም ኣኽባር ሱዳን ገሩ የቕርብ ኔር። ዘይ ጫጨሐ አንቛቕሖ ብ ዶቡብ አንከሎስ፡ ኣበርክቶ አንቋቕሖታት ኣሞራ ብ ምብራቕ፡ ስቕታ ዝመረጽ ዘሎ አንታይ ኮን የኸውን ትርግሙ?

    አመን ኣይ ትአመን ልክዕ ቅድሚ ዕስራ ዓመት ብ ሉኡኽ ጴጥሮስ ሶለሞን ልክዕ ግምባራት ጾሮና፡ቡሬ፡ባጽዕ፡ዛላምበሳ፡ ዝዋዓለ፡ ኣብ ኣሜርካ ዝረኸብክዎ፡ ናይ ብርጊድ 72 ስርሒት ትመስል፡ ኢዩ አዚ ዘይፍትሓዊ ግጭት ኣህዛብ ሃደንደዋን ቢንዓምርን ኣብ ከሰለ ተቐልቂሉ ዘሎ ባርዕ፡ ምስቲ ናተይ ቅዳማይ ኣሰር ዝብጽሓኒ ናይ ብርጌድ 72፡ ህላዌ ኤሪሳት ዝምድና ምስ ኣጎድቲ ሓዊ፡ አዛ፡ ዋላ ትንፈር ዛግራ ኢያ ጯቒት ዶር. በያን ነጋሽ፡ ኣሰር ኣሰር ናብ ሻርዕ ቢላድና ከም ነቶክር የዒንትና ኣፍጥጥና ኣሎኖ።

    እየ ጠሪቕ ኣል ሾክ፡ ጫቚት፡ ኤሪ ሳት፡ ቓዲ ምስ ክላሪቲ ኣብ ኣሰን ‘ስቲና፡ ዎ ያሕርግ ቢላድና። ምሱኦ ሓዊስካ፡ በዓለ ጠበቓ ወዲ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ ምርጫ ይኣክል፡ ከም ንሶም ውርሒ፡ ወያን ዓለም፡ ሳታላይት ኣብ ጠፈር ተረኺቦም ሲ፡ ምርጫ ይኣክል ምስ ምርጫ ወያነ ኣብ መስክረም።

    በስ ይሁምና ናሕኑ ጠሪቕ ቢላድና፡ ኣርድ ዓዋተ። ከም ፍሒራ ኣይረሳዕናያን ሰብዓን ሽውዓተን ኣግዱል ዓሸራ፡ ን ናይ ሰሳንታ ኡኖ፡ በጦሎኒኒታት ግመለይ፡ ኣብ ጎድኒ ኣቡ ሰይፍ፡ ርጆላ ሞሎክያ ልዕሊ ኹሉ ጉዕ በርበረ፡ ካብ ኡም ዱርማን ፖርት ሱዳን፡ ካብ ፖርት ሱዳን መደኒ ገዳርፍ??

    ጅዋር ብ ዶቡብ ኣህዛብ ተናቑት፡ ጆሓርብ ብ ምዕራብ፡ ብማዕካናት ሳታልይቲ፡ ስርሒት በትሪ ሙሴ ባሕሪ መሲልዋ ቱርዓ ኣብ አዋን ሓጋይ ኑቐጽ ዕራት ወሓዚ ን ገመልሲ ከልቢ ተናኻሳይ ኢዩ ኢላ ስርሒት ጆሃር ናይ ውዲ ፖሊስ ዕድ ተክሌዛን ጊታቸው ጨው ዘይብሉ በትሪ ሙሳስ ን ግመለይ?

    ኣየ ምስጣ ወዲ ሰልሞን ከይንብለክን፡ ናይ ዲጂታል ሲ ኦቨር ካብ ዝባሃል ተበራበር፡ ስርሒት ሰብዓን ክልተን፡ ማ ኒሲና ናስ ሓገና ኣል ናስ ኣል ሸርቕሰብዕ ዋ ስቲን። ማነንሲ ሰብዓ ወስቲን። ደኸልና ኣል ሸርቕ መዲነት ከልስላ ሰብዓ ወ ሰብዒን። አወ ኣይረሰኣዕናያን ስብዓን ሸውዕተን። ዓሳታት ዘማች ክድራሩ። ወይልኽኻ ኣንታ ክዳዕ፡ ድምጽታት ናይ ወረ ማዕከናት ረድዮ ዓለም ኩለን። ስርሒት ብርጌድ ሰብዓን ከልተን፡ በጦሎኒታት ሱሳን ሸውዓተን፡ ትዋፊረን ኣልዋ አወ ተዋፊረን።
    ኣይ ሰብ ጌም ዲጂታል ካብ ጌም ኦቨር፡ ተበራበር።

    ቦጦሎኒ ሰብዓ ወስቲን ላ የንሲ፡ ማንሲና ሰብዓ ወ ሰብዒን፡ ሰብዓን ክልተን ኣላ ኣዋፊራ ምስ ወዲ ዓሸራ። ን ስርሒት ጆዋር ጆ ሃርብ፡ ማ ያሕርግ ኣበደን ኣርድ ኣቡ ዓሸራ።

    ኤሶቴርክ ሉቓ ኢንግሊዚያ ባዕዴን ያ ዶክቱር በያን። ኤሶቴርክ ያዕኒ ሉቓ ፍስሓ ብርጣኒያ። ሙሽ ኪዳ?

    ጂብና ጅብና፡ ጣሒኒ፡ ዘት፡ ፉል፡ ዋ ናአኩሉ ኣል በሰል። ማ ላኪን ኩሉ ‘ዮም ኣል በሰል። ፡ኩል ዓሰል።

    ባሕቲ መስከረም ኣቡ ዓሸራ፡ ተዋፊራ ኣላ ኣኡ ሰብዓን ክልተን ምስ ሱሳን ሸውዓተን።

    ጻጸ

  • Hello,
    how do I find part 1 of this article?

    • Abi

      Hello Yosief
      It was posted about 3 weeks ago.
      You can find it under the title “ Can Mesfin Hagos lead under a banner one country one destiny “

  • Consolation

    Selam All,

    I sense a heightened state of desperation and anguish among the Weyane supporters. The TPLF thugs had no intention to hold elections and go on a collision course with Ethiopia. It was a bluff that failed. The expectation was by murdering Hachalu, they would incite the Qeeros and Jawar to bring about the downfall of Abiy. They must have revealed enough of the details of the plan to get Mesfin Hagos on board. But as usual, they did not have a plan B. So when plan A failed, they had no option but go on the road to nowhere. By now it ought to be clear that there is only one way the drama is going to end and that is with extermination of the TPLF thugs. It is this realization that is the reason for the feverish activities we see at meskerem.net and the expectation here for a saviour in the form of a discredited Mesfin Hagos. Sorry folks, no amount of wailing is going to save the Weyane and their Eritrean minions!

    ኣብ ክሳድ ወያነ ዝተኣስረት
    ንሪኣለና መሸንቆቓ እናጸበበት
    እቶም ዝፈጸሙ ፍጹም ክሕደት
    እቶም ዝኸደሙ ዕስራ ዓመት
    ሞቶም ኰይኑ ወያነ እንተሞተት
    ይግዕሩ’ምበር ክሳዱ ከምዝተሓንቀት::

    መርገም ኮይኑ ኢልዋ ተዋረዲ
    ዘይወግሕ መሲልዋ ኣሚና ባዕዲ
    ክትስንጥቕ ያኢ ኤርትራዊ ዕርዲ
    ሸበድበድ ዝበለት ክትሸይጥ ዓዲ
    ቅርጸት ተታሒዛ ‘ታዝበልዐት ከብዲ
    ሞታ ትጽበ ታጋዲማ ኣብ ንእዲ::

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ደባስ

      ከም ዝመስለኒ
      ዝብዝሑ ናይ ህግደፍ ሰዓብቲ
      ካብቶም ዝቖርጠሙ ትምህርቲ
      ስጋብ ማእከሎት ሕምብርቲ
      ከምኡ ውን ባይታ ዝዘበጡ
      ኣብ ታሕቲ

      ዝሰኣኑ ይመስሉ ፍረ-ነብሶም
      ተዘይኴኑ
      ልዕሊ ዕስራ-ዓመታት ደቂሶም
      ዓቢ ዓርገን
      ከምዚ ጌሩ ክንዕቆም
      ክረግጾም
      መሰሎም ‘ናጋሃሶም

      የመኻንይሉ
      ነዚ ዘይዓበየ-ዒሉ
      ኣምበሳ ናቕፋ ድማ ይብሉ
      ሰዓቢ ህግደፍ ናብ እንስሳ
      ዶ ሓቀይ ተቐይሩ?
      ይመስለኒ

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Ismail AA, Amanuel H, and Mehands M

    Sorry for my late response; please allow me to answer all your questions collectively.

    1. – ” If Abiy is honest about respecting to the verdict, and If Issayas want it to be demarcated, it should be their priority to end the decades long (border) confrontation and usher the beginning of peace between the two people. The border issue is the governments issue.” Amanuel Hidrat

    Aman: few points here.

    A. – Border dispute was never, never the cause of the 1998 bloody war. Meles Zenawi himself have said that on tape for all to see and hear that fact. The border dispute was a manufactured crisis for an ulterior motive: for the of Greater Tigray

    B. – Today as we speak, there is no border dispute between Eritrea and Ethiopia; none whatsoever.. Again, there was “border” dispute when the Woyanes were at the helm; but not today.

    C. – The Abiy government has accepted the EEBC ruling unconditionally with no iffs and no buts. The Abiy government has declared its acceptance of the EEBC ruling to the Ethiopian people, to the Eritrean people, to the UN, to the Security Council, to the AU, to the EU, to the Arab world, to the Corporate Media and to anyone who wants to listen

    D. – What is left today is putting physical markers on the already accepted and agreed upon Ethio-Eritrean border per the EEBC border ruling.

    E. – Putting (erecting) physical markers at the border is not very important in this day-in-age – thanks to modern electronic gadgets. The presence of physical markers, is not what stops Ethiopia from invading or claiming sovereign Eritrean territories – respecting Eritrean sovereignty and respecting Eritrean territorial integrity is the one that stops Ethiopia from invading or claiming our lands.

    F. – Our Red Sea doesn’t have physical markers, our blue skies don’t have physical markers. But we know for sure where our Sea and Sky borders are; and the whole world knows it as well.

    G. – Simply put: Ethio-Eritrean “border” dispute was a creation of Woyane; and it ended when the Woyanes lost power and run to Mekele. Period.

    2. – “if you really believe on the strategy of Isu and Abiy, they are doing exactly your choice (c), working Very hard to eliminate TPLF and to shaming the Tigray people, as the losers in their fight and reassuring their subjugation. Samray, isn’t this your daily dream?” Amanuel H

    Aman: please, please!

    A. – TPLF and the people of Tigray are not one and the same. When it comes to politics, the people of Tigray are not monolithic – they are polylithic. There were, there are, and there will always be, Tigryeans who oppose Woyane’s ideology and vision. Why you’re looking at Tigreans as monolithic people, and why you’re talking on behalf of the whole Tigreans is beyond me.

    B. – Yes, the Isaias Abiy and their governments are working very hard to defeat the Woyanes. Yes I want to see the Woyanes defeated. But, but, but

    C. – (1) TPLF are not the people of Tigray (2) all Tigreans are not TPLF supporters (3) I don’t believe Isaias and Abiy are trying to defeat and shame (humiliate) the people of Tigray (4) I’m not important but I don’t want see the People of Tigray shamed, humiliated or defeated. (5) where you got those ideas is beyond me.

    3. – “I will reassure you, that since the despot you defend day and night is working on establishing modern Axumite kingdom, the border issue is irrelevant to him.” Amanuel H

    A. – Where did you get that idea? Can you share your sources and documents?

    B. – Abiy and Isaias working together to defeat TPLF, to shame (humiliate) the people of Tigray, in order to establish modern Axumite Kingdom? Are you OK!

    4. – “I would like to jot a few words on what you (Semere T.) listed. In the first place, why should you bring the Woyanes to the issue? They are no more in power, and why should the Eritreans get involved in war against them as if they have the decision on the border issue in their hands?” Ismail AA

    A. – I’m bringing the Woyanes to the border issue because:

    1A. – They are occupying sovereign Eritrean territories

    2A. – To this very second, they have refused to accept the EEBC border ruling

    3A. – To this very second, they haven’t denounced their greater Tigray dream (d)

    4A. – They haven’t denounced their regime change project in Eritrea.

    Don’t you think that is a concern for every Eritrean?

    5. – “The border issue concerns now the regime in Eritrea and the government of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia. So, instead of establishing camaraderie of convenience with Abij, the dictator should have made implementation of the EEBC ruling a condition to any other matter since Abij had unconditionally accepted the ruling. I can detect the spin you tried to put on the issue.” Ismail AA

    A. – Like I said above, today, there is no “border issue” (dispute) between Eritrea and Ethiopia

    B. – To be credible yourself, “instead of establishing camaraderie of convenience with the Woyanes, when you were frequenting to Gondar, Addis, Debre-Zeit, and Awassa for two decades, you yourself should have made, unconditional acceptance and implementation of the EEBC ruling, a condition to your organization’s relation with the Woyanes”. But you didn’t! Why now; and why not then? I want to know your rational

    6. – “You are trying to hoodwink and intimidate the Eritrean public opinion by resorting to war as an option. Sir, it is now clear the dictator does not, and did not, have heart for the best interest of our people at the top of which is concern for the settlement of the border issue.” Ismail AA

    A. – I never advocated for war; never.

    B. – There is no border dispute between Eritrea and Ethiopia. There is stalled – putting physical markers at the border due to Woyanes hindrance and belligerence. There is a big difference between border dispute and putting on hold erecting physical markers

    C. – During the twenty years you were frequenting to Ethiopia, what have you and your organization done – the Woyanes to vacate from sovereign Eritrean territories. Nothing! Right? And in my book – silence is same as being Woyane accomplice

    Semere Tesfai

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Semere Tesfai,

      It is futile, if not pathetic, sir. How would any rational person dwarf a conflict, that consumed thousands of lives, caused enormous destruction of resources and disruption of the life of hundreds of thousands of peaceful people, to a meer dispute? You are trying to spin things in attempt to put some sense to what the dictator is pursuing. Defending indefensible is always precarious because the reasoning rests in whimsical rationale of a reckless dictator.

      Moreover, to a casual observer who reads your argument here would be confused as who is the recognized nation: Ethiopia and its Federal government in Addis Ababa or the regional government of Tigrai? You are trying to confuse people by insinuating there are two powers, the part which is more powerful than the whole – in this case Tigrai is more powerful than the rest of the country. You are trying to sayTigrai is so powerful that it can defy the Federal Government and continue to occupy Badme. If it can do that why didn’t it walk to Addis Ababa and kick out the Abij government? Please, respect the intelligence of your readers.

      A word or two in passing, if I may. You and other committed loyalists of EPLF-EPDJ regime in this forum resort to criticising the opposition for not speaking about the border war whenever are expected to deploy efforts and try to defend the indefensible follies of the dictator. You deny when it suits the dictator that he is responsible for every folly he had committed in the name of the Eritrean people. You try to equate the dictator and his government to the opposition in exile when it comes to the blunders the dictator committed regarding the border conflict and the destructive war. Sorry sir, it was the dictator who in the first place helped the TPLF to set foot in Badme just to score a point against the ELF, it was the dictator who ignited the war and found guilty on that by international tribunal, and he is the one who has been keeping the problem to continue.

      • Sultan

        Selamat Ustaz Ismael:
        Apologies for the interjection since Semere Tesfay is better equipped with,to defend himself and his case;but these issues are of utmost importance to us all.

        I read Semere’s thread x3, word by word as it is enjoyable as it sounds.

        With all due respect to you,sir, where is the futility and being pathetic when the Intelligent and well informed “Cheguar Danga” is clear as “hell” to make his points?

        Why can’t you make crystal clear counter-arguments, point by point, as he did his case to challenge and refute your seemingly “biased, confusing and weak” points?

        “Pathetic and confusing “???

        Wow, yo,yo, yo!

        Time out here!

        I beg your pardon ? I did not read a single word of vulgarity but civility in his arguments.
        The arguments he made are in response to your points and arguments, not about as to why PIA gave Baduma to the TPLF or as to who ignited the war .
        As far as the evil but failed agenda ( which is still an alive dream) of the TPLF is concerned, he provided you with facts, not with a hearsay like your friend,Aman,did.

        Your unrealistic and implausible argument to force Abiy at this moment is but an unfair argument.
        And you know that the TPLF has been the obstacle to withdrawing of the Ethiopian army!
        Not sure why you did not curse SAAY, when he blamed and accused the TPLF Mercenary Eri Opp for not criticizing or asking the TPLF to vacate from the occupied Eritrean territories and crying crocodile tears after Dr Abiy took over.

        Rather, that inept sell out Eri Opp was justifying the occupation of our sovereign territories by the TPLF telling us that it was for their National Security Interest and as a precondition for a dialogue !

        Shall I call you or your weak points “pathetic /hypocrite)and hypocrisy)?

        I feel uncomfortable to do so, out of respect.
        In such intelligent debate on important issues to us, I think an intelligent and respectful counter-debate with civility is but warranted and essential, which am learning to do so.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Sultan,
          A big thanks to you, dear. No comment since you are simply repeating what my fellow compatriot tried to sell. Defending a despot’s regime is indeed futile and indefensible.

          • Sultan

            Ya Ustazna:
            I did not respond to you expecting a response from but my sole intention was to challenge you so as to challenge Semere and his points,
            You FAILED !
            We have no right to convince or order Semere Tesfay at a gun point to criticize or denounce the PFDJ and the regime since he has a right to believe in what he want to believe in.
            Plus, Semere never supported either the PFDJ or its regime but made clear that the PFDJ should implement the Constitution.

            What I was interested in was to refute Semere’s arguments with civility and facts as he did.
            Finally, criticizing other enemies of Eritrea dies not mean to be a PFDJ Apologist.
            To be honest with you , NO SANE ERITREAN including the PFDJ members support the PFDJ Govt seriously.
            If they do so superficially, it is ONLY we as Opposition has failed to be a better alternative!
            Granted, we should blame ourselves for failing ourselves.
            You guys still live in 70s and keep blaming the EPLF Leadership when you as an organization FAILED miserably!
            Hint:
            The Muslim/ Lowland ELF Leadership screwed up things by trying to monopolize everything including failing to e excite the past due Conference for fear of being replaced by Highlanders coz by that time more than 80% of the ELF fighters were Highlanders
            -The Muslim Leadership of the ELF was overtly discriminating by sending only Muslim candidates to higher education to Damascus and Baghdad Universities
            -The ELF was divided already in two parties as if it were governing a sovereign and independent nation
            -The ELF was the one,which/who declared publicly that Eritrea cannot handle a second Front and was threatening to decimate the PLF / EPLF
            —When the Eritrean struggle was tested during the Red Star Campaign, it was the ELF Leadership, which succumbed and surrendered itself to Eric Honecker of the then East Germanys’ Leadership Mediation between the ELF and Derghi, and opted for an Autonomy,when the EPLFLeadership stood firm on the self determination of Eritrea and Eritreans
            -Whike I u detest and the complex conspiracy behind the elimination of the ELF when the CIA, the
            MOSSAD and the mercenary Arab League and Numeri’s Govt of the Sudan,It was the ELF and its corrupted Leadership,which was not prepared for the evil joint TPLF-EPLF Operation
            -It was the corrupted ELF Leadership, who assassinated the TOP ELF Leadership
            -Worst, it was the leftover and remnants of the ELF Leadership led by Abdella Idris , who betrayed Eritrea abd Eritreans and almost contributed to near failure of the Eritrean Armed Struggle by conspiring with Derghi to create an Autonomous Kollama Region besides fighting along with derghi through its well fed and paid Army by derghi , which was recruited from lowland Eritrea by Abdella Idris abd Kaliffa Hussein .
            Am aware about the EPLF Leadership’s Crimes of Assad I sting innocent EPLF and ELF members before and after I dependence , which I condemned .
            Ask Gen Nittric and Darwin as to why this happens in such Revolutions and Guerilla Movements specially in cases of Eritrea where two polarized factions were competing against each for obvious reasons .
            If you consider IA as your worst enemy, you should treated him as such by taking a preemptive actions like he did to you .
            Finally, am not going to lecture you about the destructive role of the Eritrea. Opposition led mostly by ELF remnants.
            Semere explained to you.
            If you believed and thought that IA was the enemy of the ELF and is now the enemy of Eritrea, well,he has the “ right” to act as such and it is your obligation to fight him back, not just to curse him!

            “ You shall judge them by the fruit of their own actions”!
            Here is the deal:
            The past is a past and let us learn from our past mistakes and do better by getting organized better so as to create a formidable and Strong united opposition to bring down the regime through effective and efficient strategies.
            Writing articles, talking nonstop and blaming and cursing the regime ain’t going to be the solution.
            Gen Mesfin Hagos declared:
            “ The time now is to struggle/act, not just to oppose only”!
            Let us join him.
            “ Hijji nai mikkiwam ghizie zeikones nai kalsi ghizzie eyyu”!

          • Saleh Johar

            Thank you Sultan,
            You reminded me of the struggle era pamphlets whic you replicated in your comment. It’s a copy of the propaganda of the time. Hindsight, you have empty headlines with twisted non-facts. Your description of the ELF will certainly make many people question if it’s the same organization under whose banner they fought and died. At least have respect for those who went through the experience because the era of the seventies is five decades far removed. Have mercy and stop the tasteless partisan propaganda Have mercy.

          • Sultan

            Selam DGJ:
            Everything I said is well documented and WITNESSED!
            I was norm ELF and grew up as ELF ,
            Nothing redo all here.
            Refer to the assena.com Interview with Wed Ammar
            Consult Musie Bekhit ( your neighbor)and Ustaz Hussein Khalifa, stil alive and kicking
            Derghi Era Ethiopian TV Archives showing a live interview of Ustaz Hussein Khalifa if you don’t buy the narration of the eye witness accounts
            -Refer to the Derghi ESEPA Archives on the minutes of the Derghi-ELF Leadership Meetings In E Germany
            -Refer to the archives of Cairo, Damascus and Bagdad Universities in ref to the names of Eritrean Students
            The problem is that you think that you are the only informed and knowledges le petson on Eritrean history and Politics
            BTW, why did you delete my comment?

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Sultan,

            No I do not think I am the only one. You are right, there are many who know the history, its only you are not one of them.
            Dropping names doesn’t reinforce your propaganda. I will send your comments to all the people you mentioned and i can tell you from now they will be angry you stick your propaganda on their backs.

            ESEPA? Why would I trust their narration? It’s for you to parrot their claims. To them the freedom fighters were werebela, and it seems you are towing that line.

            I do refer to documents but there is no way one could reach to your wild conclusions–but you are programmed to reach that conclusion–that is what the blind memorization of partisan pamphlets does to people.

            I didn’t delete any comment….if a moderator did that, it’s probably because there were abusive language or defamation in it. BTW, we will not allow the platform to insult people, defame and character assassinate others. That is the new marching order. And we have consumed our energy hoping people will self constrain when they have the urge to violate the guidelines. We will make it easy for ourselves. Also, I think I told you a million times not to address me as a moderator, because you do not know. Deal with the moderators but remember they are not your baby sitters. they just moderate the platform so that it runs smooth, despite the spoiled who think they can use it to peddle propaganda.

          • Sultan

            Selam SGJ:
            So basically telling the facts about what an organization and its leaders as well as its members did is called defamation ?
            Or u meant “ DO NOT EXPOSE them?
            U and few others here have insulted me and called me with names.
            Why can’t you practice what u preach?
            Can u post back what I posted and confirm to me the insults and defamatory comments I made, please?
            Would appreciate it.
            I did not copy and post what others said or propagated but facts as they are.
            It is your obligation to refute them with your “ counter-facts”!

          • Saleh Johar

            Sultan,
            I don’t insult you but you should expect to be held responsible for what you say. One thing though, you cannot expose something you do not know and I insist you do not know anything about the ELF or EPLF. So, you bullets are empty shells. That’s not an insult, undermining the struggle and sacrifices of tens of thousands of people is a smear campaign.

          • Sultan

            Selam SGJ:
            I never said I know about the ELF and the EPLF more than any one else but stated the well documented and verified facts.
            But,FYI,I was born and grew ( grown)up during the Sewra Eritrea and I had lived it.
            Of course, am fully responsible for what I say and have said!
            You should do same.
            “ That’s not an insult, undermining the struggle and sacrifices of tens of thousands of people is a smear campaign.”!
            Who undermined the sacrifice of tens of thousands?
            That is a classic you misquoting and character-assassinating me!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sultan & SGJ,

            ክሓጥእ:-) ኣፍቅዱለይ፡

            ሱልጣን ከምዚ ዝስዕብ ኢልካ “While (I) am at the forefront in criticizing the PFDJ”. እሞ እንድሕሪ ኣብ ፊት ተቓ’ውሞ እንተድ’ኣ ተሰሪዕካ ኣሊኻ’ሲ፡ ኣብ ጎንኻ ሳልሕ ኣሎ ማለት እዩ 🙂 🙂 ። ኣይትስኣኑ፡ ሓደ ነገር ኣዘኪርኩምኒ፡ ከዘንትወልኩም ኣይትቀየሙኒ። – ቀሺ ብጸኣምላኽን ቀሺ ሃይለመለኮትን ዝብሃሉ እንዳ-ኣቡነኣረጋዊ ዝቕድሱ ዘይሰማምዑን ዘይቃደዉን ነይሮም እብለኩም። መዓልታት ስራሕ ጎጉዳዮም ክገብሩ ኣይራኸቡን ነይሮም። መዓልቲ በዓል ግና፡ ኣብ ቅዳሰ ጎድኒ ንጎድኒ ኮይኖም ስለዝቕድሱ ዝነበሩ፡ ብስምዒት ዝቕድሱን ዝሽብሸቡን እንዳኣምሰሉ ብብርኪ-ኢዶምን ሃሌ እንዳበሉ ጎጐድኖም ብእግሪ መቖምዮኦምን አእግሮም ክሳብ ዝቖስሉ ሰብ ከየስተበሃለሎም፡ ድዋዕዋዕ ይብሃሃሉ ነይሮም እብለኩም። ንስኻትኩም ከኣ ኣብ ዓወተ ክትቅድሱ ከለኹም እት’ንሓሓፉ ኣይትመስሉን እሞ ንዕኦም ኣዘኪርኩምኒ።

            ሱልጣን፡ እዘን ክልተ ሰለስተ ነጥብታት ክጠቕሰልካ ኣፍቅደለይ፡

            – እዚ mercenary ወዘተረፈ ዝኣመሳሰሉ ሕማቕ ቃላት ኣብ ኤርትራውያን ተቓወምቲ ስርዓት ኢሳያስ፡ ምጥቃም እንተተቋርጽ ከመይ ዝርርብ ምመቀረ ነይሩ።

            – ድሓር ክኣ እዚ ኣብ ላዕሊ ንYP መልሲ፡ ዘቕረብካዮ ጸብጻብ ብናይ ሕሳብ ተቖጻጸርቲ፡ ፈላጣት ኣባላት ፓርላማ፡ ኣብ ጽሑፍ ዝሰፈረን፡ ኣንፈት መረጋገጺ ዘለዎ እንተዝኸውን ዝቃወሞን ኣይምነበረን፡ ሓገዝቲ ወጻእተኛታት’ውን እምነት መሕደሩ። ግና ከምዘይትዝንግዖ፡ ከምዚ ዝብሃል የለን።

            – ብሃሰሰ-ለባም ስቕ ኢልና ንቀበሎ፡ ንሶም ዘይሃብዎ ጸብጻብ፡ ባዕልና ገሚትና ንጣበቐሎም ከምዚ ዝጸብጸብካዮ ባዕልና ኰንገብር ኰንና ግና፡ ኣብ ልዕለና ምሻን ጥራይ ዘይኮነ፡ ሓምባር ጭቅኦም ውን ከፋኹሱልና እዮም።

          • Sultan

            Thank you PROFESSOR Hailat:
            -At times, I deliberately use special words when I am/was hit hard for nothing g.
            It take TWO TO TANGO!
            -The so called Justice seekers and Opp groups here should treat us so called PFDJ Apologists as respected human beings , intellectuals and professionals coz we are so, iand they should avoid using those adjectives and name callings, bullying, intimidations. and threats-If they call us as such with no shred of evidence , well,we have a Legit right to call them back with the adjectives they deserve
            -We can not preach Reconciliation but at the same time act or practice against Reconciliation, since that is beyond hypocrisy and Ferisawinet!.
            -If they are for the best interest of Eritrea and Eritreans and fighting against anyone entity with anti-Eritrea interest, then they should fight against all the enemies of Eritrea and Eritreans and ALL anti-Eritrea entities .
            With respect .

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            What is Ferisawinet?
            In my opinion , which is almost always wrong, a Ferisawi is someone who is playing the roles of a bailiff and a judge at the same courtroom.

          • Sultan

            Abu:
            Saiterut abiet sailikut wediet!
            Hypocrisy is the better word for those who preach reconciliation but act /practice otherwise.
            “ Do what they tell/ preach you to do but don’t do what they do”!
            That was how Jesus Christ defined Ferisawi(y)an of the first century AD!
            The Ferisawyan of the 21st century are called Hypocrites!
            Why were so hard on Dr Pappion to the extent of making her run away why her tails between her legs, man?
            You Gen Nitric and Semere Tesfay we’re so unfair to her!
            Please, follow and respect strictly, and religiously the “posting guidelines”.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ሱልጣን ምስ ዓወታውያን

            እሞ ንዓ ንግበር ነንኽእሎ
            ዝተሰደ ይኹን ይከኣሎ
            ገዲፍና ምጽራፍ ነቲ ዘይተኻእሎ
            ኣብ ሃገርን ህዝብን ንግበር ኣስተውዕሎ

            ኢልካዮ’ለኻ ክትብሎ ‘ደለኻ
            ደንጎላ ተረጊጹ 30 ዓመት ኣብ በረኻ
            እንሃልካ ይጥሓል ኣሎ 30 ዓመት ኣብ ጭቃ ዋለኻ
            ኣብ ክንዲ ጉጅም ምባል ኣብዚ ልሙዕ ሻኻ
            ካብ ሃብቲ ሓሊፉ መሲልና ናይ ሓሳባት ድኻ

            ምዝርራብ ተለዊጡ ብኣሕሚቐዮ ብክርፍስ
            እስኪ ኣጉዶይ ተንክፋ ኣጉዶኻ ከፍርስ
            ……………ተላዒሉ ይብል ሓደ ብጻይ
            ደጋፊኡ ይደግም ዘርባኡ ከም ሕንጻይ!

            ጥሪት ወሲዶመን፡ ጸርፊ ደርቢናሎም ተመሊስና
            ምስትንዓቕ ምንሻው ኩሉ ሕማቕ ገዲፍና
            ኬን ንበሎ ከምዚ ዝኣመሰለ ኣካይዳና

            በናኒ’ዩ ዘይጓዳእ እናተባህለ ምድሃል ጸርፊ
            ጽባሕ ከያዲ’ዩ ምስ’ዚ ስርዓት ተባሂሉ ሃፋፊ
            ግና ምስምማዕ ኣትሪፉ፡ ይመርሓና’ሎ ናብ ጸድፊ
            መን እዩ ደው ዘብሎ ነዚ ቁስሊ ተኣፋፊ

            ምስ ታሪኽና ዝተዛመደ መድሃኒት ዝሰኣነ ቁስሊ ተነካኢ
            ንገሊኦም ካብ ዝለመድዎ ካይወጹ ኮይንዎም ዘሎ መሕብኢ
            ንፍርቂ ጐንኻ ምጥቃዕ ተጠቒምካ ብደቂ ወጻኢ
            ነዛ መንሽሮ እዚኣ ክንረኽበላ ኣሎና ንሓደው መፍትሒ

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Sultan,

          Sometimes I really don’t understand you. It’s ok to disagree but, I ask you to read what you wrote to Ismail and see what would you feel is someone said to you.

          As you said, Ismail is a gentleman who goes out of his way to praise and compliment others rather than criticize let alone curse. This is what Ismail said:

          It is futile, if not pathetic, sir. How would any rational person dwarf a conflict, that consumed thousands of lives, caused enormous destruction of resources and disruption of the life of hundreds of thousands of peaceful people, to a meer dispute? You are trying to spin things in attempt to put some sense to what the dictator is pursuing. Defending indefensible is always precarious because the reasoning rests in whimsical rationale of a reckless dictator.

          1) You pick the first sentence and you run with it. He is not calling him “pathetic” or “cursing him” but what he is trying to spin in an attempt to defend the dictator actions and pass the blame to the opposition where they have nothing to do with it.

          Yes, that’s is pathetic in my definition, and I fully agree. ST spins and turns to defend IA for everything he has done so far. ST will defend the dictator if he drops gas in a village and wipeout everyone. He has sold his integrity. If you disagree with his characterization, you did not say what it is and why you disagree but instead you focus on defending ST (as if he needs your defence) and you spend writing why IAA said that to him.

          2) Instead of focusing on the topic at hand, you try to insinuate a motive and you read in what’s not written. For example, “you asked him why he didn’t curse Saay when he criticized and blamed Eri opposition”. First I don’t know if Saay is ever capable of such things, I don’t know any measured and Aqal Eritrean, even to the people he disagrees with 100%. What do if he doesn’t criticize Saay, what are you saying, what are you implying ? IAA didn’t curse Saay because Justin is Bilenay like him:), would you like that.

          3) SGJ told you 100 times if you have a problem with your posting, ask the moderators instead of him directly. Why do you insist in fighting him when he told you clearly how AT forum operates. He is here like everyone else with his own opinions. Address the moderator, he may be him or someone else. Why is this so hard ?

          4) i will try to make it light for you, and you don’t borbard me like Anderebo all day and through the night. It was I heard Jende (EPLF comedian) when they come to perform. He says there was this “Negram sebeyti”, she walks up in the morning and she looks to find someone she wants to pick a fight with. So one Saturday she tried hard but she couldn’t. Then standing outside her house, she calls her doughter, it’s already morning but I couldn’t find anyone to fight with. Give me NeSelay so I can go to the market (shuq) so I can find someone to fight with. Then an elder person who heard her said “my dear sister, why do you need to find someone to fight with.”

          And she calls her daughter “forget neSela, I found here someone already”. And she kept on fighting with the guy all the way egru, egru egru..,

          What I am saying is, sometimes you remind of that joke.
          Egru,egru, egru 🙂

          Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም በርሀ,

            ኣብ ፓለቲካ ሓደ ሰብ: አብ ሓደ ግዜ: ብኽልተ ተጻረርቲ ሓይሊ ክሕቆፍ ምስዝደሊ: አይምስቲ አይምስዚ: ቆሪሩ’ዩ ዝተርፍ:: አይመስለካን?

            Regards

          • Consolation

            ሰላም ኣማኑኤል

            ከምቲ መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ ዝብሎ፥ “ኣብ ዓይንኻ ዘሎ ጕንዲ ረሲዕካ፡ ኣብ ዓይኒ ሓውኻ ዘሎ በሰር ኣይትርአ“፡፡ በቲ ሓድ ወገን ኤርትራውያን ኢና ትብሉ፡፡ በቲ ካልእ ድማ ንወያነ ትኽድሙ፡፡ ተጓሒፍኩም ከኣ ተሪፍኩም፡፡ Jesus also said, “physician heal thyself“.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation ,
            መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ and ተጓሒፍኩም ከኣ ተሪፍኩም don’t go with each other.
            If you have any knowledge of መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ, how is that you support this evil dictator of Adi-Halo?
            Hypocrisy at its best!

          • Consolation

            Mehandis

            ብመሰረት መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ፥ እቶም ንኣምላኽ ዝኸሓዱ ኣብ ገሃነብ እሳት ኢዮም ዝጕሓፉ፡፡ Read your Bible and educate yourself.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኮንሶላስዮን፡

            ሎምስ ቢሊ ግራሃም ከኣ ኰንካ ተሰሚዕካኒ። መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ ትፈልጣ እንድሕሪ ኰንካ፡ ኣይትፍረድ እያ ትብል። እዞም ክርስትያን በሃልቲ ምፍራድ ክትፈትዉ! ንፈታዊኹም ገነት፡ ንጸላኢኹም ብዘይ ቃልዓለም እሳተ-ባርነት! ወጹብ! ይዕዘበኩም ግዲ ይህሉ!

            ደሓር ክኣ ሰይጣን እኮ ካብ መንግስተ ሰማያት ኣይተሰጎን። ንኣዳምን ሄዋንን ምስ ኣሕጥኦም፡ እግዚኣብሄን ንሰይጣን ገዲፉ። ንክልተ ፍጥረቱ እዩ ሰጒጉ። ሰይጣን ኣብ ዘይብሉ ገሃነም-እሳት እንታይ ከነዋጢ ኢና ንኸይድ?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation,
            መዝገበ ቃላት ናይ ንዳ ህግደፍ መቸም: ብዕንወት ጥፍ ኣት ቅትለት ክሕደት ምእሳር ምቕባር ምምንዛዕ ምንዝርና ስኽራን ወዘተረፈ…. ‘ያ ዘቕቢባ።
            ተረጊምኩም ደኣ ከይትኾኑ። ንዓና ዝለከምኩምና ‘ገድድ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ኮንሶለሽን,

            ክሳዕ መዓስ ኢኻ ብወያነ ክትብህርር ክትነብር? ንሳቶም ህግደፍ ክብሉ አይውዕሉን እዮም ከማኻ:: ስቅ ኢሎም እዮም እታ ስርሖም ዝሰርሑ:: ዝገብር ነዲኡ ነይነግር:: ከምዚ ከማኻ ሰብ መሕፈር ደቂ ሃገር እዩ:: ንሶምተኾነ አብ ስልጣን ይሃልው አይሃልው ንዘይተወሰነ ክነብሩ እዮም:: ንስኻተኾነ ኣብ ምብህራር ክትነብር ኢኻ:: ምሕረት የውርደልካ:: BTW, I enjoy your Tigrigna.

          • Consolation

            ሰላም ኣማኑኤል

            ወያነ ደኣ ይቕበሩ ኢንድዮም ዘለው፡፡:) ግን ነቶም ዕስራ ዓመት ዝኸደምኩም ኣፍኩም ክሳብ ትዓጽዉ: ክሕደትኩም ከነዘኻኽረኩም ኢና፡፡ ክሕደት ዘይሕከኽ፥ ተሓጺቡ ዘይጸሪ ማክያ ምዃኑ ክሳብ ዝበርሃልኩም፡፡

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ኮንሶለሽን,

            መታን አፍራይን ሓላይ ህዝብን ክትከውን: ንዓኻ ዘድልየካ ዘሎ: ጽዑቅ አስተምህሮ ነብሰ-ሕደሳን ግብረ-ገብነትን ጥራይ እዩ:። ንሱ ክውን አብዝተገብረሉ ግዜ ኸአ እቲ ልቦናኻ እንዳዓበየ ክኸይድ ይኽእል:: እቲ አሕፋሪ ለይቲን መዓልቲን ኸአ መወዳእታ ይርከቦ::

          • Sultan

            Aman:
            And for how long are you going to support the WeyAnes ?

          • Sultan

            Selamat Berhe Tsaida:
            Welcome back .Glad you are safe.
            On Ustaz Ismael:
            Reread me again.
            I clearly stated that irrespective of Semere’s support to the PFDJ, his comment in question above is a PERFECT ONE.
            Does he have an obligation to curse or denounce the PFDJ at the same time?
            Do we have to call Semere a pathetic for not denouncing the PFDJ?
            Not at all.What is wrong about Semere’s comment above?
            Where is my disrespect to Ustaz Ismael?
            That was my message to Ustaz Ismael , not to disrespect him.
            A debate is a-multi-lane or a two way road.
            On SGJ:
            Am disappointed with your biased comment and criticism, which I welcome, btw, since he has insulted me, cursed me and character-assassinated me and called me with names besides BANNING me more than 3x, not coz I used a vulgar language or abused the posting guidelines but I objectively criticized and challenged him.
            If you really have a gut and courage,you should have advised him or criticized him the way you did to me about he has ABUSED me.

            As to why I asked him about my comment being deleted , it simply coz he usually jumps in and volunteers to hit me back wether he is the Moderator on duty or not!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sultan,

            Blaming ELF leaders for meeting with Derg as the invite of East Germany has zero relevance today. When you bring such irrelevant issue to the problem at hand today i.e. Isayas Afeworki destroying our country, and trying to pass a blame to them, seems waste of time. IA /EPLF were meeting with East Germans/ Derg, IA and Shakeqa Dawit group were meeting, IA/EPLF/ ELF were meeting with Eritrean elders who were send to negotiate peace by Aman Andom. And we even read, IA was meeting in Kagnew with Asrate Kassa and Americans.

            Mesfin Hagos was meeting with TPLF leaders. EPDP were also meeting.

            I don’t see anything wrong in meeting to find a peaceful end to conflict. I would have liked if IA and Melles have met and resolve the boarder issue. As long as the meeting is done in the sprint of ending conflict and help resolve the issue for the country and people, there is nothing wrong with it.

            All I am saying is pick your fight wisely. As to ST, no matter how much he says, weyane, weyane, he is not looking after the interest of the Eritrean people and NEVER, he said NO to IA and his cronies destruction of our country and people (that’s why I am on your side).

            I am not taking side but I am kind of trying to tell you, or as we say in Tigrinya “fetawiKan SelaEiKan” fleT.

            Berhe

          • Sultan

            Berhe:
            Thanks for your follow up response!
            Just an FYI;
            Am on RECORD reminding the old guards here not to live in 70s anymore but in 2020 since they still bring up the stories of 70s and 80s and live with grudges and vengeance .
            I only brought the 50 yrs old stories up to counter their fake and biased/one-sided stories since they are acting as Tsadkan and labeling their failed org as a victim when they know well that they were along with their org( Leadership)equally the culprits.

    • Dongolo

      Selam Semere Tesfai. You are indeed correct. The same lot that cohabited with the TPLF over the past 2 decades in an attempt to destroy Eritrea only now with the demise of the TPLF, wishes to raise accountability concerns with respect to the border. Hypocritical to the max it is that they never ever criticized Ethiopia (the TPLF) for refusing to accept the EEBC decision or for illegally occupying Eritrean land but now suddenly they are attacking PMAA for not fulfilling his unconditional acceptance of the EEBC decision.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Semere,

      Allow me just to add few points to Ismailo points, who eloquently rebut to your baseless argument that changes from time to time with the mood of the despot.

      Now, leaving aside, to what you and myself would believe as to the cause of the conflict, the international communities recognized it as a border conflict and hence the tribunals (EEBC) have passed their decision on how to be delineated and demarcated the borders between Ethiopia and Eritrea, EEBC stands for Ethio-Eritrean border commission. You can’t say it wasn’t a border issue and never was. It was a border Issue and will remain as a border issue until it is demarcated and the Ethiopian forces move out from Badume and other contested areas.

      The decision of the tribunal and how to be implemented is submitted to both governments. Now if both sides agreed to abide by the verdict, then they have to implement it. To begin with, It wasn’t gone to Hague just Ethiopia to announce the acceptance of the decision only. It was to delineate and demarcate the border between the two countries. Don’t even think the Ethiopian forces will withdraw without demarcation of the two countries.

      Second, I didn’t say Abiy and Issayas are working “in order to establish modern Axumite Kingdom”. What I said is Issayas and his group was working to establish modern Axumite kingdom, an interview done by a French author and journalist in the field, 1981. I linked the speech of Dr Tesfazion Medhane last time that highlight about it.

      Finally don’t wait to get all the answers from the despot. One who is reserved from criticizing the Eritrean government is, one who waits everything to say from the government. The war start by the despot and the border demarcation is on hold by the despot.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Amanuel Hidrat

        1. – ” I didn’t say Abiy and Issayas are working “in order to establish modern Axumite Kingdom”. What I said is Issayas and his group was working to establish modern Axumite kingdom, an interview done by a French author and journalist in the field, 1981. I linked the speech of Dr Tesfazion Medhane last time that highlight about it.”

        Aman: this are your words from yesterday – which is below – not mine.

        “(4) if you really believe on the strategy of Isu and Abiy, they are doing exactly your choice (c), working Very hard to eliminate TPLF and to shaming the Tigray people, as the losers in their fight and reassuring their subjugation. Samray, isn’t this your daily dream?”

        Again the above quotations are your words.

        (a). I never said Isu and Abiy are working to shame the people of Tigray

        (b). I never said the Tigray people are losers in this fight

        (c). I never said the subjugation of the Tigray people is a sure thing

        These are all your own words. And you should own them.

        2. – “What I said is Issayas and his group was working to establish modern Axumite kingdom, an interview done by a French author and journalist in the field, 1981. I linked the speech of Dr Tesfazion Medhane last time that highlight about it”

        Aman: I don’t know what you linked last time. But I believe Isaias’ lifetime record over a shady guy’s (Dr Tesfazion Medhane) claim – which may or may not be true.

        What does Isaias Afewerki has to do, for you to believe that he has always been committed to the Eritrean cause – which is Eritrean independence sovereignty and territorial integrity?

        As far as I’m concerned, Isaias has earned my respect on those issues.

        Semere Tesfai

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Semere,

          The following from your comment, particularly (c) is completely not mine. Hence my complain to you.

          “ – Let me get this straight: (a) Abiy and Isaias are working together to defeat TPLF (b) Abiy and Isaias are working together to subjugate, shame, and humiliate the people of Tigray (c) Abiy and Isaias are working together to establish modern Axumite Kingdom?”

          Where did you get “Abiy and Issayas are working to establish modern Axumite kingdom”? The rest are my statement and I stand by them.

          Second, if an argument ended up, by I don’t believe this guy, instead going to the reference he gave us, to disprove or prove it, it isn’t a debate. You sounds as if you are saying, that the guy is against my boss, so I don’t believe him, I trust my boss. Am I right, Semere? Will you ever criticize Issayas by any thing? He is the alpha and omega to you.

          Regards

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat

            1. – your direct quote #1

            “”(4) if you really believe on the strategy of Isu and Abiy, they are doing exactly your choice (c), working Very hard to eliminate TPLF and to shaming the Tigray people, as the losers in their fight and reassuring their subjugation. Samray, isn’t this your daily dream?”

            Your direct quote #2

            “(5) I will reassure you, that since the despot you defend day and night is working on establishing modern Axumite kingdom, the border issue is irrelevant to him. Now, either you gracefully work for that project or stand with those who are fighting to foil the conspiracy to save our nation. Abiy’s acceptance is a fake and a ploy to deceive the Eritrean public”

            My deductive logic (reasoning)”

            A. – Abiy and Isaias are working together to defeat TPLF

            B. – Abiy and Isaias are working together to shame subjugate and defeat the people of Tigray

            C. – Abiy’s acceptance of the EEBC ruling is a fake and a ploy to deceive the Eritrean public

            D. – Isaias Afewrki (the friend of Abi) is working day and night to establish a Modern Axumite Kingdom

            Isaias Afewerki and Abi Ahmed are working together to create (establish) a Modern Axumite Kingdom – by defeating the Eritrean and Tigrean people.

            That is how I came up with that logical conclusion. If my logical conclusion is not making any sense to you, sorry Aman Hawey. I made a mistake. And let’s end it there.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            Please dismiss class and send the students back to the library. From what I have seen so far, they’ve got a lot to prepare for before the next class.

          • Sultan

            Selam Semere:
            No doubt that your rebuttal on Aman’s argument is crystal clear and to the point.
            I think Aman made a weak and contradictory statements , which here for all to witness.
            Funny that he insults us otherwise for being flip-flippers and inconsistent.
            But one could easily make a counter-argument to tour argument and on PIA’s historical statements and actions.
            If your Prof Tesfatsion Medhanie’s Discussion Paper in detail, it will make you think twice.
            Few hints:
            -The alleged communication with the CIA in Ashera
            -His agenda of breaking up with the ELF
            -His controversial “Nihnan Elamanan Manifesto”
            -His brutal systemic decimation of top Eri Elite and his potential opponents( Original Eritreans”)as we speak until now since 1970s
            -His role in blocking the Simur Ghinbar

            -His joint joint operation with the TPLF against the ELF
            -The Testimony of Gen Mesfin Hagos and his own public Statements in 1991 in favor of Ethiopia-Eritrea Confederation

            -His unilateral dismantling and freezing of the 1994 EPLF Charter and the Strong Eri Intelligence led by Petros Solomon

            -His anti reconciliatory approach after Independence

            -The direct and systemic decimation of his potential opponents and top Eri Elite and Commanders
            -His secretive and overt mishandling of the border incidents, wars and its aftermath
            -The economic and socio-political mess in general and freezing and slowing down of the exploitation of the huge natural resources( marine, mining and tourism industries) in particular after the war..

            -The mishandling of the UNMEE
            ( if I read Dr Andeberhan)
            -The 20 yrs of keeping Eritrea hostage in the name of Border impasse and TPLF when only to accept it after Dr AAA came but then telling us that the border is due is a non-issue
            -His confusing statements and messages after the peace deal was inked and yet keeping Eritrea and Eritreans as hostages of same status quo
            -The way the National Service and the Education infrastructure have been handled vis-a-vis the impact on the Youth Exodus
            Etc…,
            This is just to show you that we have concerns and some circumstantial evidence to be suspicious .
            Granted, make no mistake that external interferences have contributed to the above problems in one way or another.
            I have disputed otherwise bringing up the facts as they are as to how much Eritrea, Eritreans and the PFDJ Gov have been the worst victims of such external pressures and interferences .
            And I proudly admired as to how Eritrea has stood stinger and taller.
            Inconsistency and flip flopping?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hope,

            Can you quote the contradicted statements of mine? You can’t find a flip flapping with principled individuals. They can not support the regime at the same time trying to be part of the opposition of the regime. One can not be for justice while supporting the oppressor.That is part of your world, not my world,

          • Teodros Alem

            aman h
            there is a saying “injustice anywhere is a treat to justice everywhere” , u aman h r known for supporting injustice when u think it helps to advocate ur narrow principle and at the same time u say u r for justice when u think it helps to advance ur wishful principle.
            that is called contradictory, don’t make u r for justice.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam TA,

            Since I don’t understand your English, I don’t know what your are saying. Therefore, don’t waste your time.

          • Teodros Alem

            aman h
            I didn’t know u don’t know gibberish? But if u didn’t understand and hurt u morthan the coronwifey, u wouldn’t bother to reply.

          • Sultan

            GM Prof Aman:
            Thanks for your “same all same and recycled comment”(( to borrow it from you).

            Refer to Semere’s point by point rebuttal of your statements.
            Principled people?
            Huh… good for them.
            I thought I advised you repeatedly that I am not a “corrupt Politician” to stick to one-sided” stands and politics”.
            I support and give credit when due but criticize and even condemn when it is necessary to do so.
            That is what I call a “Principled Stand”!”!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hope,

            Because Semere rebut to my argument, it doesn’t mean they are contradictories.

            Rebut ≠ contradict

          • Abay

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat

            “to annex Eritrea – one of his prophecy.” This is one of the most ridiculous, irrational and immature, blind emotion driven statement i have read in this forum. You just don’t hallucinate and fantasize a serious issue like that and throw it around irresponsibly. As time goes on, true personalities like yours are revealed. Annex Eritrea! Oh Lord! Even if you fight for annexation, you will never ever succeed! Look how you are behaving as a neighbor and that is bad enough and living together with you? God forbid, no way! Don’t even dream about it! Our feelings are mutual only that on our side we put it in a more polite and civil manner. You are the one putting ideas in people’s minds and it is not working. Time has changed, in case you don’t know, and we do not want anything to do with you when it comes to living together. Nothing!
            Regards
            Abay

          • Abi

            Abay
            እድሜህ እንደ አባይ ተፋሰስ ረጅም ይሁንልኝ የኔ አለኝታ

            “ያየሽ አያልፍሽም የቀመሰሽ አይደግምሽም” የተባለው ለኤርትራ መሆኑን ለአማኑኤልና መሰሎቹ ማን ይንገርልን?

            Build the Wall!!!

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye online azmeri
            unlike u, kim and horizon online azmeris, Abay is speaking the minds of ethiopians who believe in ethiopia, ask any ethiopian who believe in ethiopia, they will tell u same thing what Abay has said above.
            No ethiopia is much better than living together in one country with eritrea.
            even if they start another 30 years of armed struggle to be annexed, they will miserably fail .
            But i know, for u it’s all about 1 dirty birr “shelemat”.

          • Abi

            Dearest TA
            💤

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye oline azmeri
            What is that?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hope,

            As you like to say, you are “spot on DIA” record and his hidden agenda.

            When you describe yourself a “at least to the naive like me”. I disagree with you, you are not naive at all but a sharp guy with love oand best wishes for your country.

            I disagree with you on your recent change of heart and stand about economic integration with those in the South.

            No, my friend, we need to build our house first. We don’t need to get entangled in the mess with them. Nothing will be enough, except for them to find time, to swallows us.

            Their intention is never based on honesty and integrity. We need to learn from our mistakes in the past and on their history of “never agree to any deal they agree with”. It’s always to buy time, until opportune time.

            I am talking about their leaders.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; here is anther fake news for you. since anything good about the nation fake, I just want to make your and the haters a good day by sharing the fake news.
            .

            The WHO African region certified Eritrea, on August 25, 2020, polio-free

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            I think you mean, certificate of eradication of Polio. Eritrea has been polio free for a while.

            I am always happy to hear good news about Eritrea. I love my people and I love my country, so all positive news pleases me.

            Please do not make a mistake, opposing policy / action of the government as it means enemy / haters of the nation. And for you loving and worshing the regime, doesn’t make you, you love your country and your people more.

            What do you think about Eritrean prisoners list. What do you say about that?

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            What do you think about Eritrean prisoners list. What do you say about that?

            Hi Berhe; we were told that Eritrea is the north Korea of Africa, meaning nothing goes in and nothing goes out. No free or private pres, no independent observers, no nothing, then all of a sudden when people shows a list that contains detailed conditions of the prisoners; one must be suspicious and must question the source. Where did he, the author got his information? who are his sources?
            I know there prisoners like any other country but to come up with that kind information when there is no informative government, press or independent observers, i don’t buy it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            You need to be sympathetic to the victims and their families. It’s better to keep quite rather than adding salt to their pain. It’s inhuman way to treat and disappear people. We may not know all of them but their families and their friends do.

            Ok, Eritrea is not North Korea, will that make a difference? If this information was given by the government freely or through it’s media then you can make that point. It’s not North Korea in security it’s boarders or controlling it’s information but it’s North Korea in a lot of other cruelty. The reason it’s not like North Korea in security it’s secret is because it’s incapable and the people who work for the government (don’t assume they are supporting the regime).

            N. Korea / S. Korea Boarder is only 250 KM which is heavy militarized and secured. There are thousands of army facing each other, it’s almost impossible to escape. In the North it boarders China which is it’s ally and deports back for anyone. Because China wants to country to stay as it is.

            Eritrea has boarder with Ethiopia 1000 KM long…impossible for the government to secure all it’s boarders. With Sudan 600 km and Djibouti plus you have the Red Sea.

            Not every Eritrean who works within the regime supports it. Eritrea doesn’t have the means the skills like other countries to secure it’s information from being leaked.

            The author use to work in the government and before he left Eritrea, he use to write and send information from within the government, if you recall the articles under “Belly of the Beast”.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            “Belly of the Beast”.

            Hi Berhe i remember. If i am not mistaken belly of the beast was Ali Abdu, isn’t it? Anyway; do you really believe the government arrest people without probable cause? Eritreans may not have the right to speak, critic, write and vote but I can’t just imagine the government come just arrest citizens, just can’t comprehend it. It got to be a reason for arresting people. It may not be criminal or illegal other countries but if you are in Eritrea and try to speak against the government that may get you arrested and that is a cause for your arrest. I can’t just imagine i am walking on the street minding my business and just getting arrested. Again what those people who got arrested, they may not committed any crime but giving the situation in the country, there must be a reason for the government to arrest people. They can’t just hull you from the streets to jail. I refused to believe that.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Nitricc,

            Two things: first if there is no due process, there is no reason to arrest citizens without having a day in a court. Second Ahmed was a courageous representative of Gedab news, in the belly of the beast.

          • Nitricc

            Two things: first if there is no due process, there is no reason to arrest citizens without having a day in a court

            Hi Aman-H: that is exactly my point. If there is no a rule of law to protect you, you protect your self by being staying away from what the Government doesn’t want you to do or say.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Nitricc,

            Only frightened Zombies do not fight for their rights. One should not surrendered to submission and forfeit all his rights without fighting, to the extent of giving his own life. Your suggestion is an idea for cowards.

          • Nitricc

            Only frightened Zombies do not fight for their rights

            Aman-H; the zombies are in jail then. What is the point in criticizing the government in words and spend life in prison? that is the ultimate stupidity and cowardice. to go out like wed-Ali is one thing but to open your mouth and spend in prison is crazy and spinelessness.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Nitricc,

            Those who are sent to jails were fighting for the rights of the population in general and their rights in particular, and in the process they gave their lives on the line of duty. They are not cowardice like you guys who are serving and defending the cruel despot.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H: you are not making any sense. To oppose and fight the government by picking an arm or by organizing as community from outside the country, i can understand that but to open your mouth and to go to prison is something stupid. Once Elsa Churum, the business woman talk about Mesfin Hagos. She said that Bitweded Abraha is her close relative and she confined Mesfin Hagos about the Eritrean government releasing him then Bitweded went to his village gave speech and the rearrested him. And she said Mesfin Hagos told her that Bitweded was released and should have shut his mouth. ” AFU ZEYEKIB” You talking is brave doing is. I am not going to prison for saying nothing but BS. NO.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            The burden of truth is with the state and not with the victims. Unless we truely believe that there is no justice that we can dream about.

            The problem in Eritrea is, the government itself is illegal and create illegal lows that puts the whole country in state of surveillance.

            For example, please fine me a low that says, leaving from your country is illegal?

            Then if you ask to leave the country, they deny you from leaving.

            Then what choice do you really have?

            You try to live “illegally” or you stay where you are.

            Now if you chose to leave and get caught, you are criminal.

            This is one example, but there so many other examples like this.

            The government makes living in your own country freely illegal.

            Sure if you are a dog and only thing you care is what you eat, then it’s all fine. But if you are human and want to explore all what you are capable of, one way or the other you get to break the law.

            A law made up of illegal government in the first place. I say illegal because it’s not possible to take the government to court for trumping your right.

            If there is responsibility (which the government is expecting from the citizens) then there should also be means for the government to respect the rights of citizens. You can’t have one without the other and that’s the main problem in Eritrea.

            If the government have the responsibility to arrest you, you also have the rights to defend yourself in a court of law.

            Why can’t you understand this simple concept. Don’t give this is Africa what ever crap…

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            private sole-cell
            I am not so sure why people expect some sympathy from you.
            You need more cells to enable that function and more.
            I sympathize your inadequacy.

          • Sultan

            Gen:
            Appreciate your pos attitude and acknowledgement of Eritrea’s Achievements.

            The point here is that Eritrea and Eritreans could have made Eritrea FREE FROM any thing you can imagine, provided we are / were to be given the opportunity to do so-my entire beef with the regime!!!

            What you mentioned is just a nano-fraction of what Eritrea and Eritreans could have achieved.

          • Sultan

            Thanks Berhe Tsaida!
            The economic integration a must and necessarily to improve our economy .
            The opportunist chauvinists shall never have any opportune time and circumstance to reverse our hard-earned Independence, unless we allow them!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            You proudly said,” The economic integration is a must and necessary to improve our economy “. You continued denouncing the opportunist chauvinists in the same breath.
            Who is an opportunist here? I know flip flops come with your wardrobe. I didn’t know you were a self degrading ወሮበላ.
            Happy Idris Awate Day. I got so much respect for someone like him than who keeps flip flopping every 30 minutes.

            Application denied. All decisions final.
            Build the Wall!!!
            Stay out!

          • Sultan

            Abisha:
            That clause is specifically addressed to Berhe as a reassuring response to him, who questioned the chauvinists, who , in Berhe’s mind,are apparently and allegedly conspiring against the Eritrean Sovereignty and Independence.
            If you don’t believe that there are no few cheap chauvinists,who are conspiring against the Eritrean Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity, well, you are challenging yourself, the very Abi, who has kept threatening us that he will reclaim Aseb on due time, the very fact and concern, Ustaz Berhe Yeman/ Tsaida,is expressing a legit concern, which should not be ignored.

            Hence, with all due respect to you,Guaddu,since I stated the facts, where is my inconsistency?

            The Economic Integration, irrespective of the non-ending evil agenda of the few chauvinists, it is Mamma Nature’s Law we cannot control or over-ride, in its positive sense.
            Worebella for stating the truth ?
            Let it be, buddy.

            My advice to you:
            STOP that day dreaming chauvinist agenda .
            Too late….
            Rather, work hard for a genuine and peaceful coexistence as Independent and Sovereign Sisterly Nations and as Brotherly people(s).
            Then, the economic ,and even the Political Integration shall be inevitable by and through the choice of the people.

            As Dr AAA declared it, the ONLY way to win the hearts of the Eritreans is but through a Genuine (Mutual)Love and Peace and by respecting ,first and foremost , the Independence and Sovereignty of Eritrea and Eritreans.
            As I have repeatedly told you, both nations have abundant natural resources, which can take care of the entire Africa, not just both sisterly nations and brotherly peoples.

            Mr Abnet:

            If your migraine headache is your lack of Sovereignty on our Red Sea, you don’t need that empty delusional ambition as long as you are going to exploit it to the max and benefit from it to the max mutually.
            Where was your Ethiopia and its empty ambition for 60 yrs, from 1889 to 1952?
            We are in the 21st century, FYI, not in the 19th century.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            1.PMAA must be out of his mind if he tries to win the hearts and minds of Eritreans. It is a futile game. We don’t need to love each other. We just have to respect each other. All we have to do is stay out of each other’s business for a lasting peace.
            2. Your inconsistency is the only constant thing about you.
            3. Keep your advice for yourself.
            ከራሱ ተጣልቶ ሌላ አስታራቂ አያሻኝም::
            4. Build the Wall!
            5. ይህን መገለባበጥ አቁም :: ይህ ሰርከስ አይደለም:: በጭንቅላትህ ቆመህ በእግርህ አታጨብጭብ::

            ጏድ አቢ

          • Sultan

            Abbu:
            Minnnew this much makrofuwo / aquereffu ghetaw?
            Truth hurts!
            Call it inconsistency or flip-flopping if u wish, I stated the facts and you better swallow the bitter pill of truth.
            Eritreans are nothing but INNOCENT, TRUTHFUL, FORGIVING and Loving people, which they have proven to be so a trillion times.
            If you don’t believe in Regional Reconciliation and mutual Economic Integration as well as Peaceful Co-existence, menghedun cherk yadrighilachu!

            Now you are flip-flopping and being inconsistent more than the King by telling us that,while you believe in respecting each other but at the same time hating each other.

            You can’t be respectful when you hate us at the same time.
            Heineken abezah endie zarrie?

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            We don’t have to love each other doesn’t necessarily means we have to hate each other. As expected you read it up side down standing on your head. Flip it one more time:) just like that!
            Can we try peaceful coexistence without economic integration?

            እርምህን አውጣ እንደሙት እርሳኝ
            ዳግም አላንሳህ ዳግም አታንሳኝ

            ይደንድን ልብህ ቀብሮ እንደገባ
            አትዘንብኝ ሆድህ አይባባ

            ተሸኝቻለሁ ርቄ ሄጃለሁ
            ተስፋህን ቁረጥ ረስቼሃለሁ

            እንዳያልፍ የለም ሁሉም አለፈ…

            ሃመልማልን ትወዳታለህ?
            አስመራ ሄዳ የዘፈነችው የድሮ ዘፈኗ ነው:: ድሮ አንተ ፍየል ስታግድ…

          • Sultan

            Abbu:
            If I knew that she sang that song,I could have petitioned for her to be deported back the same day!
            But I enjoyed her as I used to do before but she also sang the song saying “yet alle lijju Yet alle …”!
            I love Kuku Sebsibie more.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            አንዴ ቆየኝ ቀልድ ብጤ ላምጣልህ

            አንድ ምንም የሌለው የኔ ቢጤ መናጢ ደሃ ለእራቱ መግዣ ሳንቲም ተቸግሮ አንጀቱን አጥፎ ተኝቷል::
            ሌሊት ሌባ ይገባና ቤቱ ውስጥ ምንም የረባ ነገር ስላጣ የተኛውን ሰውዬ ኪስ ይበረብራል:: በዚህ ጊዜ ያ እርቦት የተኛ ሰውዬ ከት ብሎ ይስቃል:: ሌባውም ነገሩ ገርሞት “ምን ያስቅሃል’ ብሎ ይጠይቀዋል:: ሰውዬውም ሳቁን እንደምንም ተቆጣጥሮ ” ቀን በብርሃን ፈልጌ ያላገኘሁትን ፍራንክ አንተ በጭለማ ልታገኝ ስትባዝን ሳይህ ሞኝነትህ ነው ያሳቀኝ’ አለው ይባላል::

            አሁን ደግሞ ሃመልማል ሞኟ የአስመራ ቆንጆዎች ፈልገው ያላገኙትን ልጅ ውለዱ ብላ የአስመራን ህዝብ ታስጨንቃለች:: ወይ መጃጃል!
            አስመራ ምን ወንድ አለ?

            የታለ ልጁ የታለ የታለ
            እኮ የታል!

          • Sultan

            Ere be sime’Ab abbu:
            Ye Asmera wond aydele endie….dirashachun yatefew??
            It was same Ye Asmera wond,who kicked out the Killer of you and yours and escorted Ye Tigrayin wond to the Menelik Palace.

            And in 2018,it was the same ye Asemra Wod,who made another history by chasing out another Killer of you and yours and escorted the Oromos and Southern Ethiopians to their deserved Palace.
            And btw,if the oromos don’t behave and take advantage of this free ride,well, same Asmera Wond will give back the Palace to you,provided you provided you behave and comply with ye Assmera Wond rules and regulations .

            “Double Wondinet yibalal” endih aynet wondinet.

            The Terrorist Col Menghistu,who massacred more than 50K Ethio Youth on a day light was chased after /by on a day light by Ye Asmera wond.

            Oops, I also forgot to tell you that it was Ye Asmera Wond who built the entire Ethiopian Economic Infrastructure and who initiated and led the Ethiopian Student and Youth Association .
            Just acknowledge the things achieved by same Ye Asmera Wond,if you feel shy to appreciate US,Eritreans/Asmarino Wondoch .

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            ኧረ በተሰቀለው! ምንድን ነው ይህ ሁሉ ፉከራ? አስመራ አንድ ወንድ እንዳለ መች ጠፋኝ? ይህማ ዓለም የመሰከረው ሃቅ ነው:: አንዴ ቆየኝ ሌላ ቀልድ ብጤ ላቀብልህ

            ሰውዬው አስመራ ለጉብኝት ሄዶ ከተማ ውስጥ ሲዘዋወር እግር ይጥለውና አንድ እጅግ ዘመናዊ ልብስ መሸጫ መደብር ይገባል:: ይህን ዘመናዊ መደብር በማግኘቱ አምላኩን እያመሰገነ በእድሜያቸው የገፉትን የሱቁን ጠባቂ ጥሩ ቀበቶ እንዳላቸው ይጠይቃቸዋል:: አዛውንቱም እጅግ ተደስተው በጣም ውብ የሆነ የሴት ቀበቶ ከተሰቀለበት አውርደው ያሳዩታል:: ገዥውም እሱ የሚፈልገው የወንድ ቀበቶ መሆኑን በአክብሮት ይነግራቸዋል:: በዚህ ጊዜ አዛውንቱ ግራ ይገባቸውና ” አይ የኔ ልጅ ቱሪስት ነህ መሰል? እዚህ ምን ወንድ አለና የወንድ ቀበቶ እይዛለሁ? እስቲ የምትሰነብት ከሆነ ከሰሞኑ ተመልሰህ ብቅ በል ከጎንደር አስመጣልሃለሁ::”

            ሌላ ጊዜ ይሄው ቱሪስት የወንድ ሽንት ቤት ፍለጋ ምን ያህል እንደተንከራተተ አጫውትሃለሁ:: አስመራ ተቀይራለች …

          • Abay

            Dear Abi
            Hope you and all yours are doing fine.
            “All we have to do is stay out of each other’s business for a lasting peace.” You did hit the hammer on the nail. Ethiopia and Eritrea are two different countries now! And we want them to stay that way, period! Yes Eritreans are in Ethiopia is immigrants, peacefully living in Ethiopia. That is fine. Many are the young who are placed in the tragic situation irresponsibly created by their elders. The generation, generally, is far more polite and descent than the many who “politic” abroad at the comfort of Pizza Hut. So, it is ok they live here. We want Africans in Africa. More over, hospitality is in the genes of Ethiopians; history bears witness. But when it comes to staying out of each others’ businesses, Eritrea is our neighbor but only like Sudan, Kenya, Somalia and Djibouti. As you rightly put it, I wish we would stay out of each others affairs for lasting peace and but if we get involved, I wish it would be no more than we would with Sudan or Kenya! It looks like Ethiopia is “the olive oil” with which Eritrean politics is “eaten”. Using Ethiopia as a dawn fall cause for this or that is simply over used. The predicament Eritrea is in, it is their own making, the Eritreans, including the many in this forum! It is their responsibility to undo that but should do so by staying as far away from Ethiopia as possible. The ill wishes of some forum participants camouflaged in and wrapped up with refined, sophisticated and bamboozling lingo often presented in the name of analysis and opinions reveal true feelings of very many! No amount of disguise number of covering layers, nothing can block the transparency of the concealed ill wishes. Judging from what I read in the forum, from the logic and rationalizations, I many times wonder how many of those who cry for justice would really fare any better than President Isayas?

            Abi, Addis Ababa is busy preparing for the new year. You can sense the holiday atmosphere. The rain is subsiding, but still very heavy. All the same, you can feel the holiday in the air.
            Let me wish you, your family and all those in the forum a happy Ethiopian New Year.
            Best regards
            Abay

          • Abi

            Abay
            መልካም አዲስ አመት ላንተም ለወዳጆችህም እመኛለሁ::
            ልጆቼ ከእናታቸው ጋር ለአዲሱ አመት አዲስ አበባ ናቸው::

            What you said above in just short paragraphs is what I’ve been trying to say for years.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abay,

            It is good to hear from you.
            I also want to wish you and yours, a Happy New Year.
            In the coming new year, we hope to read you more. I suspect you will keep us straight with an eye witness account.
            Sometimes the reality on the ground is hard to see whenever we veer off in to the YouTube fantasy world.

            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            I think it will be helpful if you can explain what “economic integration means” then I(may be others too) will Ave some idea. If you can give example that will be great.

            I agree with Abay and Abi that, that we should stay away from each other business. I will go further, we should all we can to resolve all and any outstanding issue to leave a lasting peace (specially regarding the last war and the boarder).

            I don’t agree in building the wall, it’s not only practical but it’s cruel to the people who live side by side. It should be like any other boarder Ethiopian has with her other neighbours and Eritrea has.

            From economic point of view, I personally don’t see any reason of conflict if it’s left to the people to trade within each other. It’s the political leaders involvement and heavy hand that create the conflict.

            Government should come with workable policy, which is just and fair. And if there is disagreement, a mechanism to resolve the disagreement.

            It’s understandable that there disagreements once in a while. Canada and US have always disagreements, softwood lumber, oil pipelines, steels, dairy, cross border shopping etc, but they always find a way to resolve them, sometimes they stay unresolved until another change of government comes to power. But they don’t close the boarders, they don’t stop people from failing in love and get married and move from one country to the other, they don’t stop people from vacationing, they don’t stop trade to continue, or build a wall.

            Unfortunately, from most Ethiopian point if view, they think Eritrea benefits the most. And that’s understandable because the goods are quantifiable, such as coffee, sugar, berbere etc coming from the south and nothing from north, where as port usage, transportation savings, etc is abstract although it affects the bottom line, and easy fir manipulation.

            There is absolutely yes reason why Eritrea can’t purchase the goods it needs in the open market.

            Berhe

          • Sultan

            Selam Berhe:
            U might have noticed it by you already defined the Economic Integration near completely per your list of suggestions.
            Here is the generic definition of it:
            “ Economic integration is an arrangement among nations that typically includes the reduction or elimination of trade barriers and the coordination of monetary and fiscal policies. … Economic integration is sometimes referred to as regional integration as it often occurs among neighboring nations.
            Source:
            “Jan 29, 2020
            Investopedia › terms › economic-int…“

            For specific details and examples, refer to Investopedia.Com.
            I respectfully disagree with your generous offer and suggestion about Ethiopia using our ports for FREE.
            I would agree if you said “ Provide Ethiopia with a very competitive Port Service”….. like 25% less than the other providers charge Ethiopia”!
            Wether we like it or not though, based on the historical and social-economico-Politico-cultural relationship we have had, our relationship with Ethiopia and Ethiopians will flourish in a unique way by default in all aspects in a better and stronger way compared to what Ethiopia and Ethiopians can / will have with their other neighbors!
            Let mama nature Laws run the course with basic Sovereignty overriding the basics.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I couldn’t agree more….on both the flip-flopping and building the wall!

          • Selam Berhe Y.,
            You said, “Their intention is never based on honesty and integrity”. In this case there is no difference between people and leaders.
            You may not believe it, that is exactly what government and people from the south are saying about you. Who are the people ruling Eritrea today? They are people whom we could find standing side by side with our enemies anytime, and therefore not to be trusted? Who are the people who are going to rule Eritrea in the future? People like you, those whom people and governments to the south can not trust, or expect to be different from those who rule Eritrea today.
            You have your independence which the present government turned into your isolation, the same thing you would do if you come to power, because you don’t trust anybody, at least as much as Ethiopia is concerned, even if your people disprove you by crossing the border on a daily basis as they are being shot at from behind. Moreover, you are proving to us what Abi says, “build the wall”, for there is not a better future, as much as you are concerned.
            You want to build your house first in your isolation, and then work with a government and people who could swallow you anytime. Is that possible?
            Could this be the problem of being a small country than honesty and integrity, as you say? If you do not trust others what are you going to do about it? Remain isolated and build your wall? Where is the difference from the present government?

          • Abi

            Horizon
            What Berhe did was simply echoing what Ato Amanuel said earlier.
            Since it is a double holiday ( ድርብ በዓል) at Awatenation, I think Berhe doubled his daily consumption of double black. Tomorrow morning he will say something different after a double shot of espresso.
            “ድርብ በዓል ይምጣ ድርብ ስለት አለኝ” ብላለች አስቱ ነፍሴ!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I think you misunderstand what I am saying. With you it’s always zero sum game, nothing in between.

            Why should Eritrea be insulating itself when it wants to freely manage its own affairs, including its economy. Isn’t that the definition of being free.

            Economic integration the main advantage is economic development. I see it and why it has value.

            But I am saying, the Ethiopian government and the Eritreans government are not equipped to create and manage such undertaking. It’s very complex and sooner or later it will create a conflict.

            So what I am saying is, the economic advantage (if things go well) is not worth having the risk of conflict (disaster) so it’s better manage our economy separately but rather focus on our respective government development of legal institutions.

            By this I don’t mean that we should shut our boarders it that we have no economic trade of goods and people. Not at all, that’s what we should do as neighbours and trading partners. What I am saying is, it needs to be based legal framework that we will be able to resolve conflict in legal means.

            When I read economic integration, I am thinking of having:
            – common currency
            – common central bank
            – free trade / labour
            – free movement of people.

            This is what I am in favour off at this moment.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            berhe
            R u saying u r in favour of , common currency and central bank ? or r u saying u r against it?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            No I am not saying in favour of anything at this time other than keeping the counties separate and have our own independent policy. My wish is to be like US and Canada, just so that we focus on developing, and I’ve the people a break.

            – separate currency
            – separate boarders
            – free trade (meaning companies from each countries can sell to each other goods with out adding tariff)
            – free movement of people legally (citizens carrying legal documents – no visa requirements, granted at entry points, with limit of stay (6 months)
            – certain agreed limit amount people to spend / purchase without tariffs
            – no work without work permit
            – no double taxation etc.

            – I would go further, Ethiopia to use Eritrean ports for FREE without asking anything in return. But pay for the cost of maintenance, road usage etc as it is normally done to maintain he roads.

            Whatever Ethiopian doesn’t want or need, Eritrea doesn’t ask or insist on. All Eritrea wants and need is, to keep its peace and live in peace, and wishes Ethiopia the same.

            But I don’t know how you would stop people who want to come and work in Eritrea be it Ethiopians or others.

            If you are saying, Eritreans are not allowed to work and live in Ethiopia, well they are doing right now, as per Ethiopian government policy. But if Ethiopia wants to change that, it’s her decision.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            Agree in most but as long as ethiopia and eritrea ( whoever represent eri) relationships is peaceful, ethiopia foreign policy with eritrea will be the same ethiopia’s foreign policy with other ethiopia’s neighbors.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Berhe,
            [I would go further, Ethiopia to use Eritrean ports for FREE without asking anything in return.]
            For free? What are we getting then? Weren’t the ports critical for those many years of bloody war?

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe Y. ‘Ethiopia to use Eritrean ports for free’? R U serious?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Dongolo,

            I said earlier, kab Himaq zigebruKas Himaq zimhruKa. All this thought of interdependence with Ethiopia will help benefit Eritrea / Ethiopia will never solve our long term focus on developing our country and economy.

            Did Italy depended on Ethiopia port free to grew and build Eritrea economically?

            I say free because I want us to think like “zero” income from them using our ports. You know why, because it’s costing us brain power to think nothing beyond them.

            I want us to think and get our manuals to make it what the Italians made it and beyond and developing it.

            Remember, I said, our standard is to be equal and on par with the common wealth nations. I want us to put our standard so high in terms of our education, our rule of law, our political system etc that we are fit to join the best if the best.

            E we hat we need is access to high quality education which will propel us to excell them everything will come to places.

            Otherwise we will be thinking will be limited to Taf Shiro, Geso, Bun, as SGJ said.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            What interdependence are you talking about? There was none in the existence of Eritrea. The first years of your independence were the years where you were allowed to freely loot Ethiopia. ኢትዮጵያ የጋራችን…
            The rest was consumed by either war or ‘no war no peace’ stalemate. Please Remind me the time when there was any kind of interdependence between the two countries.

            Also kindly remind me if Italy allowed Ethiopia to use the ports for free.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Free port? No Sir!
            “በነፃም ውድ ነው ” ይላል ያገሬ ሰው ::
            አሰብን መልሰን እስክንረከባችሁ ለጊዜው ለግመሎቻችሁ መዝናኛ ( camel sanctuary) ይሁን:: አሰብን መጠቀም ትርፉ ኪሳራ ነው::
            እናንተን ማመን ጉም መዝገን ነው ጌታው:: ሌሎች ያለ ውጣውረድ የምንጠቀምባቸው ብዙ አማራጮች አሉን:: “ገንዘቤን ይጭነቀው” ይላል ያገሬ ሰው ሰላሙን ሲያስቀድም::
            በነፃ ወደብ ከመነታረክ ከፍለን በሰላም መገልገል ይረክሳል:: አስተማማኝም ነው::

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; Nothing is for free. the world doesn’t work that way. specially Ethiopians haven’t figured it out who is their friends and who is their enemy. Eritrea is the best friend they have but they don’t know that. So, let them use the port in exchange of electric power for the entire Eritrea. That will be fair for both countries.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc

            Let them keep their electricity, we have many ways and means to generate what we need. Solar, wind just a few.

            They will not stop accusing us and taking advantage of them no matter what we do or say.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; I agree. I change my mind. build the wall. A country and government that doesn’t protect their children, it is hopeless. Let them Badime and let Eritrea cut off everything with those animals. Eritrea will be fine. I am shaken to my core. NGO destroyed Ethiopia, her culture and value.

          • Abi

            General Nitricc
            ነትራካው ሚሊሽያ don’t be hypocrite. You are shaken to your core! Please say that with a background music or drum. When the 360 Eritreans perish in the Mediterranean Sea, what did you call them? Also, remind me what you proudly called the Eritrean immigrants in mekele? Never mind you are more concerned about Ethiopian children. Thanks.
            Now, report back to your local boot camp ASAP. Fall training starts soon.

            “አመድ በዱቄት ሲስቅ ልቡ በነፋስ ውልቅ!”

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abiy; I don’t have any children and you do, if you are not concern and shocked about what it shocked me, then, i am afraid i have to withdrew my respect for you. Because i be come to respect you irrespective of your hate and hostilities for Eritrea, because i understood and accept your duty your nation and people. However; i will complied with the BS going on in your country and government. I had high hopes we can work together and have some kind normalcy, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take your freaking Badime, leave Eritrea alone. I will happy Assab to be the water drinking hole for the Camels. How do you feel if the victims were on of your child? i rest my case. If PIA makes one more trip to Ethiopia, i will be one of his nightmare. it is tolerable to arrest adults, it is okay to arrest politicians, even with further due process but children, NO!!!. admit it, your country is going in to pieces. Your leaders are busy beatifying the freaking city while your children are rapped every day. No thanks, keep your fake elections and democracy and i will keep my beloved dictator.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            No u wrong, more than the tplf and NGO, the abi, the horizon , the kims destroyed ethiopia and her culture by pretending opposition, priest, azmeri, independent journalist and so on.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Tedy, regardless i can not accept this. i am done. however; it not fare to leave out the corrupted Eritreans the likes Aman=H and the rest of losers who sold their souls for Air tickets. I will be dedicated my life to protect the children of Eritrea. i am so sorry i can’t be there for the children of Ethiopia. I am done with Ethiopia.

          • Selam Berhe Y,

            You say, “free trade (meaning companies from each countries can sell to each other goods without adding tariff)”, etc.
            Don’t you think that we have seen this movie during the de facto Ethio-Eritrean common market of 1991-1998, when Ethiopia was more or less a colony of tplf-eplf?
            Ethiopia opened her big market for the sake of Eritrea’s small market, Eritrean products were sold all over ethiopia, free labor movement and jobs for eritreans in ethiopia as if eritrea was still part of ethiopia, that was not reciprocated with similar movement of goods and labor from ethiopia, tariff protection to Eritrean manufactured goods, Ethiopia was flooded with cheap goods produced in third countries imported through Eritrea and sold to ethiopians at increased prices, ethiopia had become the dumping ground of eritrean goods, which benefited eritrea and harmed ethiopia’s economy, etc. It was the main reason for the 1998-2000 war as most politicians say.
            Ethiopia and Eritrea are not the US and Canada, two developed countries that work and cooperate with transparency and win-win criteria, and not the one at the expense of the other.
            Therefore, separate economic development and peaceful co-existence is what both countries need for the time being, before they go for economic integration, and it will be much better if it is at a regional level than between the two countries only. All of us speak of economic integration, but it may not be as simple as that.
            The terms of economic integration are clear and it can’t be carried out by cherry-picking. Either there is integration or no integration.
            What about the hundreds of thousands of Eritreans already in Ethiopia? Is it possible to keep them in a limbo or evict them after economic integration as you give a stay of only 6 months, when most of them have lived for years in Ethiopia?
            As much as the port of Assab is concerned, it was supposed to be a duty-free port for Ethiopia during the early years of the 1990s. Nevertheless, ethiopia used to pay substantial port fees.
            Therefore, i do not know how practical your suggestions are.

          • Nitricc

            Ethiopia was flooded with cheap goods produced in third countries imported through Eritrea and sold to ethiopians at increased prices, ethiopia had become the dumping ground of eritrean goods, which benefited eritrea and harmed ethiopia’s economy, etc. It was the main reason for the 1998-2000 war as most politicians say.

            Horizon; i don’t think you understand the real issue. Ethiopia and TPLF thugs were fooling Eritrea to their hidden agenda.

            I would point out one thing that was mentioned to me on several occasions on meeting that I had with Prime Minister Meles, which I always found fascinating and I was never able to sort of get from him why he made those statements. But on several occasions during the conflict the 1998 – 2000 conflict, he said “Mr Ambassador ONE OF THESE DAYS WE ARE GOING TO BE BACK TOGETHER AGAIN” and I would try to press on that to find out how is this going to happen? What’s the plan here? He gave no time frame at all and he did not imply it would happen in his life time, but he made that statement on several occasions to me and I found it intriguing but was never able to determine why he though that was going to happen? But I am convinced he BELIVED IT VERY SINCIERLY!” Ambassador David Shinn US Ambassador to Ethiopia 1996 -1999

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I think there are a lot more smart people who can work out any difference and find a workable solution. The example you gave Eritrean importing cheap products dumping in Ethiopia sounds not believable to me. But I will not be surprised when there is PFDJ a government and a business enterprise doing lots of shady business. What I have in mind is having a responsible and accountable government of the future.

            I gave you the example of Canada / US because I know it works but not perfectly all the time.

            Canada and US do not have integrated economy. They are two separate country as far as controlling their own economy.

            They gave free trade agreement where any company goods can be sold to another country without tariffs.
            Companies in each county can bid jobs etc and pay applicable tax to their respective jurisdictions.

            It also make expansion of companies operation across both countries possible. Obtaining permanent residency in each country is possible so long as it meets the requirements.

            It’s also possible citizen of other countries to work on another country provided that they get clearance they can prove they are not able to fill the jobs locally.

            The six month limit is to those who obtain travel visa at the boarder and are going fir short visit. Students and employees or those with permanent residency have different requirements.

            For example a lot of Canadians retired spend half of the years in warmer weather like Florida and they own second home. The US welcomes this as it provides added income to the economy.

            As I said, the benefit Ethiopia gets from Eritrea is not tangible or people not aware off. For example who do you think benefited the most from the boarder opening? Although we don’t have hard data to backed it up, I think Ethiopia may have benefited as much or better.
            – Ethiopian airlines
            – Ethiopian shipping (where Eritrea chose to give the contract to Ethiopia for the mineral shipment (as per the Ethiopian official)
            – May be even poet fees for imports / exports

            But people focus on the coffee prices dropping, Teff prices coming down. Etc where contraband use to eat most of the costs when eliminated its natural they drop.

            Anyway, I agree with you, we are not ready and we need to develop our economy and institutions first. For what ever benefit that we get, if it’s going to lead to conflict, it’s not really worth it.

            And I don’t think trade barrier or separated economy is the reason we are at the bottom economically but lack of accountable governments.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hello My Dearest Hawna Berhe
            Forget every zibazinke you said. It is not working. We need to encourage and support the dating department between the two countries. It has always been working smoothly like a well oiled machine.
            “ከደሳሳ ጎጆ ሃረግ ከወረሰው
            ይወጣል ቱባ ልጅ በቅባት የራሰው” ብላለች አስቱ ነፍሴ!

            My proposal is to expedite ሰልስተ ወራር , አርባእተ ወራር ,ሀሙሽተ ወራር , seasonal ወራር, holiday ወራር , Independence Day ወራር….
            My preference is Awate Day ወራር!

            መጣና ባመቱ
            ኧረ እንደምን ሰነበቱ?
            ፅቡቅቲቱን ያበርክቱ!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            When we discuss positive and possible potential growth, you seem to lose all common sense.

            Eritrea will join the common wealth of nations deal with it.:).

            And we wish all the best for Ethiopia.

            And happy new year.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I care less if You join commonwealth, Arab league, G7, G8, G20, G whatever…Singapore, Japan, Korea, Somalia, Mars, Jupiter, …
            While you are searching for a taker and submitting your application all over the world , we do what we do best. Protect and defend Asmara ፅቡቅቲ , Provide loving and tender care!
            Take it easy. You are taking things a little bit too seriously. Don’t pretend like You are a policy maker. It is not healthy.
            Now that there is Canadian Soccer player in the Bundesliga, you have to start watching men’s soccer.
            Enough with the girls soccer nonsense!
            I love you too.

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye online azmeri
            I bit ur wife must be stinky in and out and she must be deep inside rural like u , otherwise i don’t think modern self- respecting women will mary the lowest person ever. did u say she went to addis or sekota for new year?
            Zzz bel .

          • Abi

            Dearest TA
            ያንተ እንካሁን አለመቀበር የሚያመለክተው ነገር ቢኖር የእድርህን ድክመት ነው:: ደህና እድር ቢኖርህ ኖሮ እስከዛሬ አያቆይህም ነበር::
            ጠረንህ እኮ አገሩን በከለው:: ኧረ ጎበዝ ተረዳዱና ቅበሩት እንጂ! እሬሳ ማቆየት ደግ አይደለም::

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye online azmeri
            now u got 5 old dirty birr shelemat.
            u have no life other than talking 24/7 about killing, about ur trash life and ur inside out stinkig wife
            I fell sorry for ur miserable kids.
            how is she doing in sekota.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            During the honeymoon period of the two ወንበዴዎች 91-98 Ethiopia was flooded with counterfeit products. The disgraced embassy of the ወንበዴዎች was ground zero for money laundering.SGJ has an article on it. All these opposition ተብዬዎች were happily looting Ethiopia.
            ወራዶች!
            Build the Wall !!!!!!!

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            What is your favorite at this moment? you are confusing me.
            Could you please write it again preferably in Amharic?
            Thanks
            ተደናብረህ አታደናብረኝ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Not important, and not urgent issue at the moment. But if you want further detail see my reply to TA.

            Berhe

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Amanuel H.,

        Did you hear from Isaias himself saying that about the Axum Kingdom? Or is it just a beer hall rumour?

        If he did, there is nothing wrong.

        • Sultan

          Selam Simon:
          IA told boldly a French Journalist that in 1973.
          Haile S.can help you out to dig out the journal and the report in question!
          “ We are not interested in working with those Amhara Chauvinists/elite but to rebuild / resurrect the Axumite Kingdom”(simplified)!
          I did not hear him say that but the Journalist and his interview/ report was referenced to that effect by an Eritrean-French, a Paris Resident!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sultan,

            I suspect the origin of this is from the following paper presented by Prof Tesfatsion. The Prof cites Rene Lefort’s book wrotten in 1981 and translate to english in 1983. I know Rene Lefort use to visit Ethiopia around that time in1979 for example with a group of journalist to Eritrea to see the areas taken back from the liberation fronts. Here is the paragraph in question from Prof Tesfatsions paper:

            ኤርትራ ከም ዓደ’ቦ፤
            ጸገማትን ብድሆታትን ኣብ ታሪኽን ሎምን
            መማየጢ ሰነድ (Discussion Paper)
            ተስፋጽዮን መድሃኔ (ፕሮፈሰር)
            ብረመን ዩኒቨርሲቲ፣ ጀርመን
            ብረመን፡ ሰፕተምበር፡ 2012

            Page 9
            “ብእዋን ብረታዊ ገድሊ እውን ኢሳያስን ተሓባበርቱን ሸቶኦም ትግራይ-ትግርኚ ምንባሩ – ኰነ ኢሎም ይኹኑ ወይ ከይተፈለጦም – ኣነጺሮም ዝኣመቱሉ ግዜ ነይሩ፡፡ ንኣብነት እቲ ብብልሑን እምቈቱን ዝተፈልጠ፡ ረነ ሌፎርት ዝተባህለ ፈረንሳዊ ጋዜጠኛ ንሜዳ ህዝባዊ ግንባር ከይዱ Uደት ክገብር ከሎ ዝተዓዘባ ነገር ኣላ፡፡ ኣብ’ቲ ብ1983 ዘሕተሞ መጽሓፍ ሓደ ካብ መራሕቲ ህ. ግንባር ብዛእባ እቲ ውድብ ነዊሕ ገለጻ ክህብ ሰማእኩዎ ይብል፣ እቲ መራሒ ኣብ’ቲ መግለጺኡ “ዕላማ ገድሊ ኤርትራውያን“ እንታይ ከምዝዀነ ኣረዲኡ ክድምድም ከሎ “ንሕና ወረስቲ ንግስነት ኣኽሱም ኢና፣ ምስ’ዚ ናይ ሽዋ መንግስቲ ምንም ዘራኽብ ኣይክህልወናን ኢዩ!“ በለ፡፡ ወሓለ ተዓዛቢ ረነ ለፎርት ነዚ ምስ ሰምዐ እዚ ዘረባ’ዚ ስቕ ኢልካ ዝተደርበየ ቃላት ከይኰነስ ከቢድ ትሕዝቶ ዝሓቖፈ ምንባሩ ኣብ መጽሓፉ መዝገበ”*

            *Rene Lefort, Ethiopia: An Heretical Revolution? (London: Zed Press, 1983)

          • Sultan

            Selam Prof Hailat:
            Spot on Professor Hailat;and that was the exact quote I got from my reference and was / is same Journalist.
            I have the entire Discussion Paper of Prof Tesfatsion Medhanie printed out!

          • Selamat Haile S.:

            Two things I am having a problem reconciling. In your entropies you say you knew the journalist Rene Lefort to visit Ethiopia in 1979 where you site the example his visits with group of journalists to visit lands taken back from the liberation fronts. I will skip the strange sentence itself and the information it contains that is relevant to the page 9 which places our journalist to an area under the control of the liberation from the EPLF where an EPLF leader is giving the the EPLF stance with regards to Aksum connection and against Shoan.
            I can’t reconcile the journalist which you said was visiting to areas taken from the ELF and EPLF then placing him with fronts and leadership? I should plead for more clarity and simply ask you this;
            Did the journalist visit areas behind enemy lines or areas that were stile free and under the fronts control, areas not taken back from the fronts? Where you knew him to be or where he is saying he was as the page 9 suggests according to his observation?

            Nay kualieta ejikekha kndi baldonga qetalit klte Hasekha ente tokhobkaley or are you stuck on Babilaonian language still.. well if Axumites are resurrecting why not Babilon rise again too???

            tSAtSE

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Xaxe,

            Now I understand what you say. First I did NOT say “I knew the journalist”. I said I knew he use to go to Ethiopia and at times visited the areas taken back by the Derg. I don’t know perdonally the journalist, nor was I in a position to know him or his articles at that time. I read later what he writes when I went to his country. I cannot remember every detail I read, but don’t recall if he visited the fields of Eritrea, thus my sentence you bit. One has to read his book (I don’t have it), Ethiopia, the heretic revolution in order to confitm if he really said that. Prof Tesfatsion mentions the page 268 talking about the issue. You may be able to find his book in a library close to the Chelsea district of NY.

          • Selamat Haile S.,

            Thank you. Allow me to say it by my impersonation of Marlin Brando the God Father thanking the mortician: “Ayyy may call on you to do me me a favor one day.”

            Wait that doesn’t even make sense.. the scene doesn’t fit. Nevermind.

            Thank you Professor!

            tSAtSE

        • Selamat SK;

          Gene Hakman in the French connection below. Egypt-Axum and the sacred waters of Abbay and the Nile: Sever the backbone and strength of Shoa by funding Jawar the media Fox network. Take away the USA funds from Ethiopia. Consider IA, Amara, PMAAA enmity with Mekele, Hidrat above drops the IA Axumite hoodwinking, this current series of scrambled eggs that green and ham omelet… for bigger media mergers and acquisitions.. there was a girl named Clarity with Asseye Assena and the Qadi is consulted so how can we get a foot hold on your old stumping grounds with Wedi Frayy Yemani or was it SartSayy with the AbuRasheeds, I don’t know if you missed the link from Brhan…And then there is talk of beating a poor dog who was once a professor at Awate University.. Professor Tess he went by I believe who resembles if you really look carefully the German Sheppard in Negarit98.
          Guess where the poor German Sheppard resides. It is the same dog who is was an officer with NYPD blue man. The best friend who rode shot gun and Gene Hackman drove all over the boogy down Bx, Harlem and Crooklyn before Gene was kidnapped and doped up. The German Sheppard was key in sniffing out and liberating Gene his partner and is retired now in Frannce. In the five Bs with the 5 bosses Q the underboss got a big stick and going after Professor Tess to beat him at Saint John’s University after the Qadi from Queens found out where the Professor Tess was hiding all these years and grabbed Mose’s Staff dude..

          Man grab you an old VHS or Beta Max tape of The French Connection with Gene Hackman. Me, I am Chilling with The Clan yo.. yeah The Wu Tang Clan… Old Dirty Bastered ain’t scared of the Q underboss. Safe in Staten Island dip into Manhattan Chelsea to grab a truck full of textiles and up the Deagan express way to Rough Buff with Harley Davidson Rough Riders and hand on Trigger…

          Listen to Wu Tang and watch the French Connection.

          I got a strong connect in Delaware yo… The Chump your Trump going down… You don’t even see the Kamala is that chick who use to run with Shaft maaan. Ya dig! Biden is bidding for Assab and Dankali yo! Dude Dankali Mussa from up town got this one on lock. He trained shaft how to box like an Afar. Shaft in Africa where did you think it was filmed?

          Ma cousin the bar fly.. yeah we all da bugs is relatives. Where is u been yo? Any yeah ma kosin BarFly who always loved him to sit on Tele Savalis Da Kojack’s bold and shiny head, yeah BarFly says
          Hidrat yeah dey call him Hidrat the Hidden Rat really tough dude on Fordahm Road with Street crews.. a bad chemist too who slings Rocks in the streets Da Hidden Rat Hidrat don’t even drink Duce Elevens but bee at da bar slinging rocks yo…BarFly said he heard Hidden Rat doing is Ratting to Kojack right in da bar yo. BarFly ma kosin don’t lie. He said it is

          Bar Talk to his kosing wacha mean we don’t look a like? We is Fly of the Bar kind bug and I is his kosing of a different bug..

          GitSAtSE

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam G,

            Pure poetry that puts my favourite poet, Edgar Allan Poe, to shame.

    • Brhan

      Hello Semere, Nitricc, Dongolo, Consolation

      If it is your habit to come to this forum to speake about Eritrea, well Eritrea’s issue is not only the Badme issue, otherwise, see the cloth hanger below:

      What is your take on :

      1) There is no constitution in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme

      2) There is no rule of law in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme

      3)There is no freedom of speech in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme

      4) There is no private media because of the Woyane are occupying Badme

      5) The youth are leaving Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme

      6) There is slavery type unlimited national service in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme

      7) Prisoners of consciences are languishing in prisons without trials for years because the Woyane are occupying Badme

      8) There is no private bussiness in Eritrea because of the Woyane

      9) Refugees, including those of 1960s can’t return to Eritrea because of the Woyane

      10) The Woyane whom you said run and are in quarantine has become what in Arabic is called شماعىة ታካባኖ

      ኣታ እንታይ ኢልኩሞ ክስቶ እባ ቲ እባ
      ወያኔ እንዶ ኣላትኩም ታሓንጋጢት ናትና ኩሉ ጸበባ!!

      • Dongolo

        Selam Brhan. It has been your habit for the past 20 years (& now) to never ever criticize the TPLF. Am I correct? No articles ever here which critically hold the TPLF account for their multitude of atrocities committed against Eritreans as well as Ethiopians. No? We should not feel as though we are at CNN-TPLF.

        • Brhan

          Selam Dongolo,
          I did. You are only a newcomer. But I did not make them a scape goat for all of our woos.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            How do you know that Dongolo is a newcomer? Do you keep the attendance sheets?

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            Not according to the person who has appointed you the ministerial position, but owing to your busy schedule on soccer and binge drinking (Guinness), you are seriously falling short of the standard one expects from her highness government.

            I am under lots of pressure to reshuffle my ministers. Unless you up the tempo and improve the work-rate, I am afraid to warn you will be the next minister to get the chop.

          • Abi

            David
            As my Prime Minister agrees with me, It takes a genius to appreciate a Guinness!
            ክቡር ጠቅላይ ሚኒስቴር
            በእርስዎ ተመርጬ በንግስቴ ተመርቄ ከሙሉ ክብሩ ግዴታዎቹ ጋር የተሰጠኝን ሃላፊነትደከመኝ ሰለቸኝ ሳልል ማገልገሌን ጌታዬ እንደማይዘነጉት ቅንጣት አልጠራጠርም:: አሁንም የተሰጠኝን ሃላፊነት በትጋት ለመወጣት ያለኝን ዝግጁነት ለጌታዬና ለንግሥቴ በድጋሚ ቃል እገባለሁ::

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Brhan

        1. – “There is no constitution in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme”

        No, though Eritrea having been at war for the past two decades is a valid reason to shelve the constitution, that is not the main reason I don’t advocate for the implementation of the constitution. If you care to know, these are my personal reasons not to implement the constitution

        A. – The constitution was drafted when we were naive, inexperienced, trusting, and ambitious. We’ve learned a lot since.

        B. – The constitution is too liberal and to open for foreign interference – which puts Eritrean national security cohesion and stability in danger

        C. – We need constitution that is custom tailored for Eritrea – not Western copy and paste type brand of a constitution.

        2. – “There is no rule of law in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme.”

        Nobody said there is no rule of law in Eritrea. There is rule of law in Eritrea; you just don’t like it. Eritrean communities are a lot safer, a lot peaceful to live in and a lot better to raise your children than many communities that profes to have rule of law. We’re just poor. That’s all.

        3. – “There is no freedom of speech in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme.”

        Freedom of speech is relative. There is no freedom of speech without rules and regulations. Freedom of speech comes with responsibility, accountability, and factual reporting. Getting there takes time and the right political atmosphere. We’re not there yet.

        When you said freedom of speech, I hope you don’t mean sub-nationalists anarchists and religious fanatics to have a field day inciting violence and burning the country to ashes – all in the name of freedom of speech.

        4. – “There is no private media because of the Woyane are occupying Badme”

        Refer to #3

        5. – “The youth are leaving Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme”

        Only the naive and the ones with a sinister motive would say that. But in reality

        A. – Exodus of the young was a political tool that was used by global powers for purposes of brain drain and to fine tune their policy towards a given nation. Today, due to Western economic decline and population explosion in poor countries that tool is no more attractive to use it.

        B. – We are poor country. No matter who is at the helm, poverty and destitution will remain a challenge for any government in our country. Therefore, poor and destitute people, if they get the opportunity to go to the Western world, they will go – irrespective of their political affiliation or their political feelings. Meaning: it is dishonesty to politicize our poverty and our youngs wanting to go to the Western Western world. Every single year, there are hundreds of millions of people who migrate to other countries looking for better opportunities – Eritreans are not the exception.

        6. – “There is slavery type unlimited national service in Eritrea because of the Woyane are occupying Badme”

        National service is not slavery. It is a duty and an obligation of every citizen. No excuse for cowards opportunists and draft dodgers. The Woyanes liked up 300,000 killer army along our 900 km border to reverse Eritrean sovereignty and independence. And every able Eritrean citizen had an obligation to defend his/her country. Don’t even go there!

        7. – “Prisoners of consciences are languishing in prisons without trials for years because the Woyane are occupying Badme”

        Because you didn’t like the court verdict or didn’t hear about it doesn’t mean they didn’t had their day in court. According the PFDJ government, they did have their day in military court for treason. You can disagree with that claim if you want to.

        8. – “There is no private bussiness in Eritrea because of the Woyane”

        I don’t believe that is true. There are private businesses in Eritrea.

        9. – “Refugees, including those of 1960s can’t return to Eritrea because of the Woyane”

        The government doesn’t have the resources to bring them back, the UN didn’t want to fund their retur, But many who wanted to return did and still are doing so. That is the news I heard. I don’t know what you heard.

        10. – I don’t know what you’re trying to say here

        Semere Tesfai

        • Brhan

          Selam Semere,
          10. Do you think, it is right to blame the Woynae for the problems from #1 to # 9. That is what I mean.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Brhan

            “Do you think, it is right to blame the Woynae for the problems from #1 to # 9. That is what I mean.”

            Not entirely. But make no mistake, Eritrea was on a war footing for two decades; and that costs a lot of money especially for a poor country like Eritrea. And due to huge military expenditures all national construction and institutional projects were shelved aside.

            The US is a very wealthy nation; but the effects of the two decade war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya…… is not that hard to miss. War bankrupt nations. And bankrupting Eritrea was what the Woyane’s plan was.

            Imagine: Eritrea has
            900 kms-border with Ethiopia
            600 kms-border with the Sudan
            125 kms-border with Djibouti
            2,234 kms land + island coast

            Now think: when guns are pointed at Eritrea from Ethiopia, Djibouti, Yemen, and Sudan all at once – how many men and women in uniforms does it take to defend and protect Eritrea? And how much resources?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Brhan

            Selam Semere,

            You said ” not entirely”. It means there is/are at least other/s to make accountable. The opposition? CIA? The Eritrean people?

            Is it very hard to make the regime accountable?

            Thanks

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Semere:
            You said “Now think: when guns are pointed at Eritrea from Ethiopia, Djibouti, Yemen, and Sudan..”
            I thought those guns were pointed from Eritrea to those mentioned countries…
            ብዓረብ ወይ ድማ ብ ሂብሩ ዲኻ ከተንብብ ጀሚርካ? ማለተይሲ ካብ የማን ናብ ጸጋም

          • Mad Mullah Lives

            Semere,
            You can’t be serious. Do you know how many countries in Africa had border problems. For example, Cameroon and Nigeria had border problem for several decades… it didn’t stop their economy and daily activities…

          • Desbele

            Thanks Brhan for the questions. It exposes someone who may have been worse than the dictator if had a chance. #7. is truly scary.

          • Nitricc

            It is funny kissing up one digital Agazian to the other. You guys hate Eritrea and Eritreans, why not just stick with Tigray and go there.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Brhan,

            Supplementing your questions 1-10,

            Who decides on these issues?

            Who are the deciders accountable to?

            If an Eritrean disagrees with any of the decisions made by the self-appointed deciders, will they be considered as treasonous Woyane agents and be court marshalled?

            Is complaining about the bonded-labour (aka indefinite national service) or about bread queues treasonous?

        • Sultan

          Selam Semere:
          You disappointed me on few things:
          Hope SAAY will not show up this time.
          My take:
          On Constitution:
          -In my opinion,the 1997 ratified Eritrean Constitution was / is one of the most openly discussed Constitutions by the Eritrean Majority and with the help of the International Scholars and which referenced other ones and the Eritrean Customary Laws.
          Was or is it Pete t? No it can’t be one.But was/ is open to Amendment
          -You claimed that the prisoners had a day in court through the Marshal or Military court, which is no constitutional since the Constitution was not implemented!
          Even if it constitutional, it was a fraudulent one since the allegedly “Opportunist” Prof Berekhet added or “ approved” it behind the scene to appease PIA
          But what about the thousands of other non-Military prisoners including the Teachers,the Doctors, the Religious Leaders, the innocent Teens among others.
          On the economy:
          You really messed up on this.
          I heard you saying that u never visited home for the last 12 years and yet you act like an Expert about domestic situations .
          -The Private Sector of the economy has been banned for decades.
          The few private business you are talking about are PFDJ sponsored ones.
          Outside of these,any major successful private business is banned and closed in the name of corruption.
          On Institutions:
          -There are no functional institutions let alone strong ones since there is no guiding Constitutions.
          On the border and demarcation vis-a-vis Constitution:
          Those of us who used to be Yellow Card holding PFDJ Members and per the active PFDJ Members, the reason for freezing the Constitution was due to what Birhan told u or challenged you.
          Yemane Monkey and his surrogates were telling us so abd after they were challenged, Yemane came up with an “ excellent” excuse telling us” A lot of other countries including England do not have a Constitution”!
          Worse, finally,the boss killed it openly by overriding all the million excuses.
          Contrary to your assertion, have a Guiding National Charter or Constitution could have benefited Eritrea and Eritreans and could have minimized our problems and could have strengthened our unity in diversity.
          Let alone the TPLF, even its Masters could not have dared to bite us if we had an All Inclusive Constitution.
          If you are concerned about elections prematurely,the elections could have been postponed during a national crisis or emergency if the concern is about external interference by abiding the loopholes of the Constitution
          In reality though we all know the most likely reasons as to why PIA killed the Constitution and the EPLF Charter:

          -To do whatever he wants to do

          -To cleanse the potential opponents, to kidnap and throw people he does not like or trust, in jails

          -To create disunity and confusion

          – To control the economy and other infrastructure

          -To keep Eritreans weak and polarized

          -To weaken the Education system, the Youth and the Students, since they are the engine of a nation
          Etc…. This is the tip of the iceberg .
          N.B.
          The border or demarcation has NOTHING to do with the Constitution and its provisions , Economy and creating strong institutions.
          I think at times you have to be reserved coz you might be putting yourself on a spot to be a victim of your opponents who are looking for loopholes to pick on you.
          This comment of yours is one of them , which has made you to be a victim of your making, King Sultan thinks so.
          My naive opinion.

  • Beyan

    Greetings Awatawyan,

    If you need a little winding down with the weekend coming to a close, here is a wonderful Tigrinya rendition that will sooth your mood:

    https://www.facebook.com/402744710298592/posts/746559415917118/?vh=e&extid=tY5tSQFRHnIKHU4o&d=w

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Selamat Dr. Beyan
      For some reason, it reminds me the legendary Yonus. I had to listen to it 3 times. Thanks!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat
    I know brother Brhan mentioned this one but I would like to repeat it.
    Please see SGJ interview with Selam Kidane @Assenna:
    https://asenatv.com/atv-%e1%8b%9d%e1%88%ad%e1%88%ad%e1%89%a5-%e1%88%9d%e1%88%b5-%e1%8a%a3%e1%8a%ab%e1%8b%ab%e1%8b%b2-awate-com-%e1%88%b3%e1%88%8d%e1%88%95-%e1%89%83%e1%8b%b2-%e1%8c%81%e1%88%83%e1%88%ad/
    A lot of people were asking for Media cooperation and here it is.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Thank you Handesa.

      I am not wasting my time just like that,,I saw this when brother Brhan mentioned attached the link..and I wish every one to see this,,It is eye opening.

      KS,,

      • Beyan

        Selamat Mhands and KS,

        I have watched the interview several days ago now. As usual, SGJ penetrates the subject matter that he speak in such original way that one can’t help it be captivated by his quick rejoinders are always impressive. I thought the host, Selam Kidane, gave SGJ an all deserving accolades, referring to him as her teacher was very touching, at least to me personally. Knowing the man for a long time, since our denali days, and indeed his reservoir of stories continue to spring like ፈልፋሊት ማይ::

        Kokhob Selam,

        I have not forgotten the master of Jebena. Glad to see you are still running the show. Kbret yihabellay.in welcoming me back. I thought I’d respond here rather than scrolling down, pressed for time a little.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Selamat Dr. Beyan
          For some reason, it reminds me the legendary Yonus Salih. I had to listen to it 3 times. Thanks!

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        I believe you, KoKhobay!
        We need more people like you!

  • Dongolo

    Howdy Meles Corruption lovers. Back in 2012 . According to The World Bank’s 2012 “Diagnosing Corruption” study: “Roughly half of the Ethiopian national economy is accounted for by companies held by a business group called the Endowment Fund for the Rehabilitation of Tigray (EFFORT) closely allied with the ruling EPDRF party. EFFORT’s freight transport, construction, pharmaceutical, and cement firms receive lucrative foreign aid contracts and highly favorable terms on loans from government banks. “Generals” and other than military leaders have managed to accumulate properties worth hundreds of millions of dollars.”

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Dongolo,
      I am assuming you are Eritrean…now, why would we care about Ethiopia, Woyane, EFFORT, etc.? Give us one reason.
      This is the land of Awate and you are complaining about Ethiopia’s internal affair. Why?
      Let’s talk about our country.
      Where is all this cash from the mining industry?
      Why is this evil man, your direct boss, still dictating?
      Why don’t we have a constitution?
      Why are those political inmates still in prison, with no due process?
      Again, why is this Lunatic guy in charge of Eritrea?
      Why are the top HGDF looters stashing our money in foreign countries?
      Let’s focus on that.

      • Dongolo

        Salem መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. ‘YOU’ as in TPLF obviously have no qualms with illegally occupying Eritrean land or for that matter Amhara, Afar or Somali territory. SIMPLE ANSWER: TPLF to withdraw from land that it illegally occupies.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Dongolo
          As I said before, I don’t care about Ethiopia…stay focused
          Your own boss, the criminal dictator told every one, in Tigrigna, border is not his priority. Don’t try to blame others. Ask your boss.
          I would be proud if I were TPLF but sorry to disappoint you I am not.
          My family [including me], proud ደቂ ባት [I know this irritates you hgdf people] Eritreans [before hgdf that is], have paid high price, not that you do care.
          ብድሕሬና ባ መውደኽደኽቲ ደቂባት መሲልኩም።

          • Dongolo

            Selam Dr. /Professor መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ primo Custodial Engineer. Of course you selectively don’t care about Ethiopia except when it come to bashing PM Abiy. As your Makalle bro Paulos would say, No problem bro, whatever you say.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dongolo,
            Till you get a message from Adi-Halo, on what to answer, ብሰላም ዕረፍ!
            I feel sorry for you and alike that you can’t use your brain. What a shame.

          • Sultan

            MN:
            Anta sebAy sebEnnetika ebba arregaghits!
            Stay on topic like your twin IQ-30 would say! Here is the topic:
            “ There is absolutely nothing preventing the TPLF from immediately withdrawing military troops and machinery from Eritrean land.”
            Yes or No?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Dongola,

            Stay on topic. Don’t be a troll.

          • Dongolo

            Salam Simon Kaleab. Odepus complex? Sorry but can’t help you with the sweet, loving and kissing part.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Dongola,

            You did not understand ‘The Theban Plays’, Oedipus Rex is not relevant to the issue at hand.
            Typical shallow PFDJ.

            Can you explain to us why you believe that PFDJ, the killer donkey, is sweet, loving and kissing?

          • Dongolo

            Selam Simon Kaleab. Should I assume that all those here that never criticize the TPLF are TPLFites and that those that do are all PFDJ? Should I assume that all those that never criticize Obama are all Trump supporters? Why not ask your same question to somebody like Dr. Paola or Samuel? Your assumption about me is wrong.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Dongola,

            For 22 years, you people have been screaming, woyane, TPLF, Border, while the real assets of Eritrea, the youth, are being squandered.

            Isaias is laughing at you. The cause of the War was not the BORDER but the BORDOM of the PFDJ warlords with peace.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Simon Kaleab. Post EEBC decision, the border and PIA are clearly separate issues and the path forward is also clear in that the TPLF simply needs to withdraw. Regarding problems/issues back home, yes they need to be discussed & addressed, but not on a compromised public forum clearly populated by (majority) TPLF sympathizers and constantly religiously stoked to the brim.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dongolo,

            Issayas and Abiy can request the international community, specifically the UN, to help them with cartographers to put the markers (pillars) on the ground. The UN welcomed the acceptance of the verdict by Abiy and were ready for any help. But these deceitful leaders do not want it to be done. So Dongolo for everything there is process to do it, you can’t say just leave our land. The verdict has a process to implement it. There is no separation between the border and Isayas as long as he is the head of the government who has to deal with it. Don’t try to be or appear to be foolish. You are always thinking and acting by the rules of the bush.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat. It is really hard to earnestly discuss the border issue with somebody that never ever has criticized the TPLF but rather tries to glorify it. There is absolutely nothing preventing the TPLF from immediately withdrawing military troops and machinery from Eritrean land.

          • Sultan

            Dongolo:
            You are talking to yourself by talking to a programmed Robot, if u r not aware of it.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ጆሜትራ

            “………stay focused
            Your own boss, the criminal dictator told every one, in Tigrigna, border is not his priority. Don’t try to blame others.”

            For the sake of argument, let’s say you’re right. The “criminal dictator” was/is wrong. Meaning: returning back sovereign Eritrean territories from Ethiopian occupation should be our priority. I get it!

            Now, making border issue as our top priority, what is that we Eritreans need to do differently that the “criminal dictator” is not doing? Please choose one

            A. – Get back our sovereign territories by force (war)

            B. – Declare the EEBC ruling and the Ethiopian government’s (Abiy’s) acceptance of the border ruling null and void and start border negotiation with the Woyanes afresh

            C. – Work with the Eritrea friendly Abiy government to defeat the Woyanes and return our sovereign territories back

            Please, please, please don’t disappoint me with a never ending rambling and beating around the bush – ሸንኮለል. Smart engineer that you are, I’m sure you’ve valid alternative solution. So, please be articulate, and tell me and tell your readers, what is that we ought to do differently to bring our sovereign territories back – in one or two lines.

            Semere Tesfai

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Semere,
            1. ሸንኮለል is not my thing. Maybe someone is in your mind?
            2. Don’t tell me you didn’t her him saying border it not our priority? I would say the “Criminal Dictator’ need to make border issue is a priority.
            3. Colonel Abyi is Ethiopian leader and he need to push him to implement what he said. I doubt both of these are interested to do that though.

          • Consolation

            mehandis,

            He asked you, A), B), or C). Choose one. If none of the above, then specify D), your solution. Engineering requires precision and disciplined thinking, not the scattered mind you display. You are probably a custodian in an engineering firm.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation
            I am not like you, who take order from the Evil Dictator. So, you can’t tell me to chose because I refused to do so. I have a brain to think of my own. Read the answer given to Semere.

          • Abi

            MM
            Please ignore the guys bugging you to no end. They are burning your fuses. They don’t know you got a remotely programmed robotic mind assembled at an abandoned Circuit City loading dock.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            [remotely programmed robotic mind]…you are describing a hgdf parrot. Go get one more of your German beer and come back with another Neftegna’s comment.

          • Abi

            The Bavarians won the champions league final. See, there is life outside politics.
            I will be very disappointed if you tell me you have not watched the game.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            Deservedly so!

            They have a goalie who can easily play as a centre back. The Paris boy had their chances but did not take them and were punished for not converting them.

            That spoiled brat Samba boy was in crocodile tears after the game. He might be now in Copacabana Beach with his bird.

          • Abi

            David
            Apparently, The team from the “Farmers league “ could not finish.
            The Samba boy should move to EPL to challenge himself. Any mid table EPL team can comfortably beat the queens from League 1.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Sorry to disappoint you again.

          • Abi

            MM
            Now I’m really disappointed. Why you do this to me? You don’t like me anymore?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            You can say that 🙂
            It is because when I see you siding with those gutless, immoral hgdf supporters riff-raffs. Can you blame me?

          • Abi

            MM
            ተዋሪድና!!!
            ይህን የግንበኛ ቀልድ ተወኝ አላልኩም?
            I side with nobody.

          • Sultan

            Ani:
            A Ghenbenga builds houses, villas, skyscrapers ..Dams.,etc…
            This one rather destroys .them.
            He blames and discredits The GCMS/ Ye Diro Tenna Mekonen College, the Back one of the Ethiopian Health,simply coz King Sultan sounds to him incoherent!
            His fallacious logic has no boundaries.
            I thought I told him that “ I am /was “A Medical College “ drop out”….. coz of my “ incoherence”!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            ግንብና ድልድይ ለማፍረስማ ከእናንተ ጋር ማን ይወዳደራል:)
            If you see this ግንበኛ discredits everything Ethiopian, just ignore him. It is a programming defect.
            Do you know what የግንበኛ ቀልድ means?

          • Sultan

            Selam Abi:
            Not sure about the keld/ Ghinbengna joke!
            Not all Eritreans but few are dildiy afrashoch.
            As you know very well,Eritreans built the entire Ethiopian Infrastructure during the good days.
            To your surprise, the Eritrean Armed struggle did its best to spare bridges …
            That Dude has no clue the way I read him.
            The fact that he writes few poems in Tigrinya does not mean that his coherent.
            Please tell him that the ones, who join the GCMS are those :
            -with a GPA of 4+
            -With super IQs
            -Who were tested with fire like Gold.
            The 99.9% of GCMS grads practicing and out-performing in the West have proved the GREATNESS and uniqueness of the same GCMS!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            ግንበኛ ውሎው ከድንጋይ ስለሆነ ሲቀልድም በድንጋይ ነው ጭንቅላትህን የሚያፈርሰው:: በእሱ ቤት መቀለዱ ነው ልክ የኛ ግንበኛ በጎንደር ህክምና ኮሌጅ እንደቀለደው…
            ተባለ እንዴ?

          • Sultan

            Selam Abun:
            Got you!
            Who could say it better than Guadd Abnet?
            As I repeatedly appealed to you, you could have done better as the Bridge Builder .
            No one would question and challenge your unique articulation and the knowledge of every subject matter raised here.

          • Consolation

            Mehandis,

            Now I am sure that you are less than what I thought.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            These guys need the transformation of “body and mind” to act and debate like normal. When you say once you have to say, don’t go back and forth with them, once you know their natures. Their rudeness and disrespectful behavior is mind boggling.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Prof. Emma,
            I couldn’t agree more!

          • Sultan

            Ayte MM:
            Wait a minute Sir:
            You are politely asked to answer the questions, not to be rude and arrogant.
            Engineers do not act like that.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ጆሜትራ

            By making border as your priority, what would you do differently that the dictator is not doing?

            Semere Tesfai

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Semere,
            To begin with, I would NOT say it is not my priority.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ጆሜትራ

            “To begin with, I would NOT say it is not my priority.”

            I get your drift!

            Then do what?

            Semere Tesfai

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Semere,
            Then, I would clear my stand with Colonel Abyi on the border issue. I would tell him to implement what he accepted or talk to me when you can do that.
            He [colonel] either doesn’t want to implement or has no power to do it. So, I wouldn’t waste my time with him.

            BTW, since the Evil Dictator has said openly The Game is Over to the woyanes [or was he saying to Eritreans, you never know], what is the hurdle for the colonel, unless their intention is Not to solve it. That, I can understand, since the Evil Dictator has said it openly.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ጆሜትራ

            1. – “Then, I would clear my stand with Colonel Abyi on the border issue. I would tell him to implement what he accepted or (else) talk to me when you can do that.

            If I understand you correctly, you would give the Abiy government an ultimatum

            A. – Vacate from sovereign Eritrean territories – or else

            B. – We will stop any diplomatic, economic, security, regional policy cooperation…… with Ethiopia

            I beg to differ; because Eritrea has a lot to gain by engaging. And it has gained (has benefited) a lot – saving Eritrean lives, removing the dark clouds of “no-war-no-peace” on the horizon, lifting of sanctions, military expenditure, concentrating on nation building and economic investments……… to mention a few.

            Now; we know where we both stand – which is a good thing.

            2. – I don’t doubt your sincerity; but, but, but I’ve a question for you. Why didn’t you show the same position (feeling) – with regards to the border – when the Woyanes were at the helm? I never heard you giving that kind of ultimatum to the Woyanes – then and now. Why? What is different today? Strange; isn’t it?

            Semere Tesfai

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Semere,
            1A: Yes. Wasn’t that Eritrea’s stand for the last two decades?
            1B: I see nothing what you have stated. Remember that the border has been closed after the brief stint. The country is still in lockdown, including Naqfa.
            Are you equating Isyayas with Eritrea? I disagree with your statement.
            2. You mean EPRDF? My position is the same. I would prefer to negotiate to get some villages [including Berhe TsaEda’s] back but for me whether it is Abyi’s or HD’s or Meles’s my stand is the same.

          • Sultan

            Samray Anbessa!
            Spot on as usual, but,but,but, you should have addressed the other aspect ,I.e.,the PFDJ’s negative role to the mess.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Semere Tesfai,

            Awaiting the addressee to respond, I would like to jot a few words on what you listed. In the first place, why should you bring the Woyanes to the issue? They are no more in power, and why should the Eritrean get involved in war against them as if they have the decision on the border issue in their hands?

            The border issue concerns now the regime in Eritrea and the government of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia. So, instead of establishing camaraderie of convenience with Abij, the dictator should have made implementation of the EEBC ruling a condition to any other matter since Abij had unconditionally accepted the ruling. I can detect the spin you tried to put on the issue.

            You are trying to hoodwink and intimidate the Eritrean public opinion by resorting to war as an option. Sir, it is now clear the dictator does not, and did not, have heart for the best interest of our people at the top of which is concern for the settlement of the border issue.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Samray,

            Let me say few points on your argument;

            You said: “ For the sake of argument, let’s say you’re right.”

            (1) Why do you argue from hypothetical stand, while the statement you quoted, is an absolutely true, that the despot has said it publicly on his own tv in your own language?

            (2) If Abiy is honest about respecting to the verdict, and If Issayas want it to be demarcated, it should be their priority to end the decades long confrontation and usher the beginning of peace between the two people. The border issue is the governments issue. The two governments refuse to resolve it for reasons vividly told by both leaders, if you don’t want to short-circuit our debate by outrightly denying the facts.

            (3) Ask your government about the few choices you listed. Those are questions that must be addressed by the government in charge. We don’t have influential say on the border issues other than to express our stand on it.

            (4) if you really believe on the strategy of Isu and Abiy, they are doing exactly your choice (c), working Very hard to eliminate TPLF and to shaming the Tigray people, as the losers in their fight and reassuring their subjugation. Samray isn’t it you daily dream to this?

            (5) I will reassure you, that since the despot you defend day and night is working on establishing modern Axumite kingdom, the border issue is irrelevant to him. Now, either you gracefully work for that project or stand with those who are fighting to foil the conspiracy to save our nation. Abiy’s acceptance is a fake and a ploy to deceive the Eritrean public. Otherwise, there is no reason to say for him that the thirty years Eritrean struggle was a waste that should never happen. Deal with with this, if you want to defend our sovereignty- both the sovereignty of our people and our land. No excuse for that.

            Regard

          • Kibreab

            Selam Amanuel,

            For a person who claims to choose his words carefully and often complains of people not reading him properly, or misconstruing his statements, shouldn’t you always try to extend the same courtesy to other people and try to read them carefully?

            Semere wrote the following:

            For the sake of argument, let’s say you’re right. The “criminal dictator” was/is wrong. Meaning: returning back sovereign Eritrean territories from Ethiopian occupation should be our priority. I get it!

            Is Semere really arguing “from hypothetical stand” about PIA’s position (border issues not being a priority) as you stated above in your first point or about the position being “right” or “wrong”?

            Do you think you read him right by only quoting the first sentence and ignoring the rest to make your point that he is making Isayas’ position seem hypothetical, when in fact he was not even talking about the position itself, but whether the position is right or wrong?

            Regards,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kibreab,

            Kibreab, I think Semere understood me. Ditto to his reply.

            Second, l was saying if the quoted statement was correct about the despot (I know Semere heard him saying those words), he should not put his statement in a way that sound he didn’t, and hence let as assume it correct just for the sake of argument. Issayas did say it, why do we debate on assumption is the core of my argument. I did not misquote him nor do I miss interpreted him. We know each other what we are talking. I hope I am clear to you now.

          • Kibreab

            Selam Amanuel,

            You wrote:
            “l was saying if the quoted statement was correct about the despot, why did he assume to be correct.”

            You are still not reading him right. Reread the paragraph again. From what Semere wrote, which you partially quoted, he did not question or “assume to be correct” Issayas’ position/statement.

            There are two points:
            1. Assume PIA’s position on the border
            2. Assume PIA’s position on the border is right or wrong.

            Semere was talking about point #2, but you are still saying Semere was talking about point #1, which is not a correct reading of what he wrote.

            Regards,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kibreab,

            Anta hawna, you are insisting on me to read the way you read and understood it. Don’t do that. First of all, since different people can read and interpret in different ways, your approach should be this is the way I read or interpret it. Then your readers will consider or flatly reject it. At least learn the rule of engagement. So I stand by my statement and Semere has already understood me. You don’t need this all sweeting in order to convince me your understanding. Two minds is no necessarily to think and understand the same way. Now let us end it as is.

          • Sultan

            Selam MM:
            Before Gen Nittric hits you HARD,think and act like a real Engineer!

            There is no way to separate the Eritrean business from that of Ethiopia politically speaking!
            The logic behind your bravado might be and is, until proven otherwise, to cover up the TPLF crimes and destabilizing efforts.

            If there was no such thing called TPLF and its destabilizing efforts in the Horn of Africa in general and in Ethiopia and Eritrea in particular ; and if the TPLF was/were to comply with the EEBC Verdict and the Algiers agreement, we would not be where we are now and our Dude in Asmera would not have any excuses to act the he has had for the last 20 years!

            I know you are obsessed with telling us that our Dude ignited the war, which was a legit knee jerk reaction militarily speaking to take a swift action when provoked badly and after years of patience of those provocations.
            To his credit, our Dude did his best to avoid such a devastation action and unforeseen devastation and repeatedly begged your flip-flopping opportunist and mercenary PMMZ to resolve the matters peacefully.

            No need of further lecturing an Engineer the basic facts but, if needed, I will call up on you and consult for you a second grader Eritrean to further clarify things for you.

            We would not have lost your brothers and mine at the Baduma , Tserona , Aseb and Tesenei fronts for nothing after 1999 or even in 2000 where more than 50% of our casualties occurred, had your good for nothing criminal TPLF thugs or janda WeyAne Acceptrd the ceasefire !
            I hope this will save you from the WRATH of Gen Nittric.

        • Sultan

          Selam Dongolo:
          You have a point.
          That certain MM has one too.
          But to challenge your view,we also heard that PIA DRCLARED PUBLICLY that “the border or Baduma issue is NOT a priority”!
          Rather, the priority of the priorities is , I quite” To stabilize Ethiopia”!
          This is as if that same Dude called PIA was not telling us that the priority of the priorities to have peace with the TPLF Ethiopia is , I quote” For the TPLF Army vacate and to demarcate the border“ thereby keeping us HOSTAGES for the last 20 yrs.
          Worse, after he got what he wanted,he made a dirty u-turn and has told us that that priority is no more a priority and us back to status quo.
          Granted, as a Veteran and Senior EPLF member and professional and intellectual as well as a FULLY and well informed Eritrean, I took it for granted that you are against the positions /agenda of that treacherous Devil.
          I believe that is why Gen Mesfin Hagos boldly declared that there was no, there is no and there will be no WORSE enemy of Eritrea and Eritreans than that same DUDE !
          Even Teg Eng Mahmuday Saleh, the COVID-19 SURVIVOR,gave up hope after waiting for two years post Ethiopia-Eritrea Peace Deal on that Dude and boldly declared that ENOUGH is ENOUGH and it is now past due time to finish our home work !
          Basically , he is expressing his solidarity with Gen Mesfin Hagos and his Strategy minus the nonessential involvement of the quarantined TPLF “Thugs” to use Gen Nittric’s word!
          Veteran Dongolo:

          From the need of the urgent socio- political justice point of view in Eritrea , the border and Baduma issues are NON-ISSUES,period.

          The MAJOR URGENT ISSUE for Eritrea and Eritreans is:
          -National Reconciliation followed by an IMMEDIATE charting of a Temporary / Transitional guiding Charter( like reviving the 19994 EPLF Charter) towards ratifying an All Inclusive Constitution so as to allow all Eritreans from the all walks of life to come together and get involved in UNISON to build a Democratic, Free , Strong, Prosperous and United Eritrea thereby to reclaim what belongs to us and to compensate for the lost opportunities!
          One more thing to be clarified and to be focused on:
          As Gen Mesfin Hagos said it boldly in a crystal clear way,I quote:
          “ As long as PIA and his PFDJ are in power, there will be :
          -No National Reconciliation
          -No Constitution
          -No National Unity
          -No functional Economy
          -No Functional Education System
          -No functional Institutions
          -No improvement of the National Service
          -etc….
          As if the 30 bloody years were not enough,we have gone through another thirty years of HELL after the “ Liberation of Eritrea”!
          And worse, PIA wants us to go through another 30 yrs misery and hell in and through same status quo!

          • Dongolo

            Selam Sultan and thanks for your comment. There is not doubt that Mesfin Hagos was a great liberation hero. However, like many others here, in terms of being an Eritrean opposition voice, he simply lost all credibility when he allowed the TPLF to become his benefactor. Foremost, we must remember that we have successfully thwarted relentless TPLF attempts over the past 2 decades to destroy Eritrea’s very existence as a sovereign & independent country. It is therefore simply highly inappropriate and strategically inept for any Eritrean opposition leader (or movement or organization) to base itself Inside Tigray and/or to receive financial or military assistance from the TPLF. In regards to needed changes/reforms in Eritrea, I am sorry but to discuss such here would be akin to discussing the same on Tigrai Online. One does not wish to wash dirty laundry in public and in terms of Eritrea”s dirty political laundry, it is certainly not appropriate to be washed in a TPLF dominated/controlled public domain. I would suspect that many former important contributors have vacated this room for the same or similar reasons. In regards to PIA and the border, what I can say that PIA is not Eritrea and whatever he may say (taken out of context or other) in regards to the border is rather immaterial as 1) The EEBC rendered a final & binding decision which Ethiopia (irrespective of the existence of PIA/PFDJ) must respect, and 2) PIA and PMAA as respective Heads of State have signed a Peace Agreement, for which in part, reaffirms Ethiopia’s commitment to implement the EEBC decision. The problem now is that PMAA appears to be too weak to control or to force the political hand of the TPLF and unless he soon takes very hard action against the TPLF, he will certainly loose all credibility to effectively lead Ethiopia. I see some indications of late that he may be finally ready to slam the hammer down on the TPLF.

          • Brhan

            Hello Dongolo,
            Have you in your life opposed or supported an idea, a party and a poltical figure? Or with you it is one way….support the regime in Eritrea in whatever it does to our people and country. You know from the bottom of your heart now even the ones who were supporting the regime are questioning themselves if they are doing the right thing or not to do the right thing.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Brhan. It is normal to challenge, support or oppose your Government but clearly abnormal for one to cohabitate, support & receive support from your Government’s enemy and illegal occupier, for that my brother, is referred to as treason.

          • Brhan

            Hello Dongolo,
            Let us leave those who committed treason to the law.

            SO can you give an example when and why did you oppose the regime in Eritrea. You said it is normal. So let us now discuss seriously : give me an example?

          • Dongolo

            Selam Brhan. Thanks but no thanks. Won’t do that at Tigrai Online and I won’t do it here for the same reasons. A few others here like Sultan and Berhe Y have been critical of both PIA/PFDJ and the TPLF but whenever they levy criticism against the TPLF they get gang attacked by TPLF disciples. You might be a decent guy and I don’t won’t to prejudge you and really wish we could meet over a coffee 1-on-1 to openly discuss issues.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dongolo:
            I can understand about the confused and unprincipled Sultan, but I doubt about Berhe.
            BTW, for you to criticize your boss is unthinkable and it is like commuting suicide. Not sure why Brhan expected you to do that.
            He should know better that you are a mere messenger.

          • Sultan

            MM:
            You are one of the most confused self-declared opposition members.
            Do fool knows EXACTLY what he is talking about sin he is well informed and an inside that he was!
            He clearly stated like Mahmuday has come in a crystal clear way about what should been done and about the weaknesses and failures of the PFDJ govt.
            U r the one, who immediately attack any one who starts criticizing the TPLF and GIVE your marching orders telling us:
            STOP talking about the TPLF but about the PFDJ!
            Then you resort to vulgar language and attacks when you are asked to clarify yourself .
            Confused Sultan?
            Nah…only in the eyes of those confused and unprincipled TPLF Cadres and Agents like you…. ,
            King Sultan is as clear as hell on the -PFDJ and the TPLF
            -On universal principles and approaches of solving Eritrean problem by and through Eritrean solutions by Eritreans.

    • Consolation

      ሰላም ዶንጎሎ

      እቶም ዝሰረቑ፥ ስለዝለቝመጹ
      እቶም ዝኸደሙ፥ ስለዘልመጹ
      መለስ ዘኪሮም፥ እንተጋየጹ
      ኣይገርምን፥ ጫውጫው ኣናጹ
      በለሎም፥ ነቶም ፈንጂ ዝረገጹ
      ነቶም፥ ዘይተመልሱ ምስወጹ::

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Consolation

        ‘ንዳ ህግደፍ
        ናይ ዕሽለት መግቢ መግደፍ
        ——-ኣፍኩም ዕረ
        ግብርኹም ናይ ድያብሎስ
        ——ሰላሳ ዓመት ብዘይ ፍረ
        ——ድሂኽክሞ ህዝቢ ብዘይ መብረ
        ኣብ ክንድ ትሕብኡ
        ኣብ ቅርዓት ወጺኹም ትግዕሩ
        —–ኣይትሓፍሩን ወረ

  • said

    Greetings,
    Thank you Beyan for your great article .
    You wrote different scenario of number countries who change come about or failed and how change of regime could take place
    It is not quite as simple as you put it. known nothing can go quite smoothly as planned or can be predicted
    As reported recently Belarusian strongman Alexander Lukashenko went to the Minsk Tractor Works, the country’s biggest factory with almost 15,500 workers, and did his tough-guy act: “Until you kill me, there will be no other election.” The horny-handed sons of toil simply replied by chanting “Ukhodi!”—Get Out! And run out .
    Another good example in Bucharest in 1989 when long-ruling Romanian Communist dictator Nicolae Ceauşescu was shouted down by an enraged crowd.as was reported at time Like Ceauşescu, Lukashenko faltered, amazed and bewildered—these people were supposed to be his ‘strong base’—and then fled the podium. Ceauşescu was dead within four days of his last speech, executed by his own colleagues
    In Sudan democratic opposition is confident enough of its popular support they form ‘coordination council’ of all sort of people to oversee the transfer of power.

    In Eritrea ,the broader issue is that of the political culture of EPLF that created IA in the first place and is deeply rooted. You can not negotiate with IA and his minions of same view, a transition to another system of governing, the rule of law .IA his wholesale contempt for the constitution is known fact ,it is non starting point. IA and his minions have no interest in finding common ground with Eritrean at large and are not ready and will not share power .To be sure . we can not hope. Everything about IA mission was open and obvious ,were he was leading the country , EPLF top leadership failed moral and they are full of political hypocrisy .

    IA architect of the nation, in his tenor an unsettling reality begins to re-emerge. we are offered empty rhetoric and a history of heroism definitely but completely broken progressive promises. With zero result .The danger of IA and the EPLF he represents with their consent, reached top ladder . The problem arises when EPLF /PFDJ in their hypocrisy ,allow the inspiring rhetoric of EPLF to trick Eritreans ,in hoping and into thinking they are part of the democratic solution to our all kind of systemic ills. It is to point out that the modern rise of IA, was in the extreme .Even much scarier, ,he was a known entity but tragically accurate ,much being said in this forum . idea is not to reduced to the flaws, faults of one evil man, it is system of EPLF/ PFDJ ideology that created crawl dictatorship. IA and his regime are parts of the same political disease. No amount of evidence can seemingly convince his most hard core and fervent supporters that IA is distractive force for Eritrea. He do no wrong. Sadly IA continue to be not only tolerated but downright celebrated. but there’s nothing here to celebrate , There was zero. pathetically and absurdly, for three decades who abused his power massively , he nothing to show for, except misery ,that is a matter of public record, That fact notwithstanding ,take simple example . Eritreans political prisoner with no rights whatsoever ,is it something to celebrate .They also had great admiration for evil man .what a hellish disaster. After three- decades It is hard to imagine. and utterly unwilling to challenge him. He is untouchable and unaccountable ,they love and fear him at same time. sends a troubling message. IA was not stopped in his truck in time and was not effectively challenged and dismiss. By vanguard of heroism and activism of Eritrean , with a watchful eye . and would have captured the nation’s imagination and put in his place .History would have been changed, and for much better, today for many Eritrean It is liberalism that binds us all together against dictator . In Eritrea we must recognise many elements like civil resistance and labour union do not exist . history would not unfold smoothly and inevitably towards western-type liberal democracy, even remotely and would be mistake to think . but good point to start .

    Eritrean who live in diaspora for decades would love Eritrea to become a liberal democracy. Inside Eritrea currently the majority do not understand properly liberal democracy. but its spirit lives on, Regardless. Eritrean are longing for freedom and liberty, Eritrea are united and collective, their aspiration and spirit has not woken yet and not broken . The rule of law and democracy will one day will come in Eritrea. and a future that looks pretty daunting from most by any angle.
    The dictatorship of IA is overt and must be resisted at all costs. The regime is worried constantly about being overthrown the balance of forces has not changed. We are still a very long way from the Promised Land. After regime is gone .The first is that winning an election is now the only way of achieving political legitimacy ,will require popular consent expressed in a public vote

    You brought many example how regime change by different means .When the Cold War ended, the Warsaw Pact dissolved over night .NATO it expanded to eastward to include former Warsaw Pact bordering Russia, For East Germain to make a change was easy , to be part and integrate western Germany was much easier path , they had strong support economically and politically from western Germany government .
    In short we have “Colour revolutions” and civil resistance of the central and eastern European revolutions of 1989? Mass People protest movements of anti-Soviet and anti-post-Soviet some of which succeeded, some of which failed.
    coming close to home .People uprising in Sudan was lead by the committee of Sudan Freedom and Change played a major role After the outbreak of the protests on December 19, 2018, it played a major role in managing the demonstrations until the ouster IA friend ,the President Omar al-Bashir on April 11 of last year. Arab spring with mix result . Almost ten years ago since Muhammad Bouazizi, a Tunisian street peddler, set himself on fire. He was protesting against harassment by local police, His death inspired the Arab spring: a series of popular uprisings that toppled autocrats, Tunisia’s included, across the Middle East. poverty and deprivation have worsened dramatically since 2010.the rest history we can learn from.
    In Eritrea the situation is different in many way .The real victims are the poor and the powerless who suffer since 1991 and not the regime ,it controls resources. And today people are further devastate the lives of millions of Eritreans. And plunging an impoverished people deeper into misery and weakened society and demoralized .
    Like many Eritreans staunchly anti-Communist ideology of EPLF and Communist ideology ,their mission to reconstruction of Eritreans society, with their reforming purpose.to recreate one kind of people of one HEART . Was used to camouflage and mask their crime task .EPLF/PFDJ have not addressed the intransigence of equality , equity and inclusiveness , for peoples of’ othernesses . as individual part “othernesses”.IA part of dominant culture of Eritrea, the leader an exclusive club of radical evil ,his policies that further divide the nation, Eritreans are disturbed by the hypocrisy of regime. their idealism of sham is a disease of ideology, No vision for a just and peace-making society. I don’t know which is worse radical Left or Right wing ,politicos ,that for another day
    Being humanist liberals, Conscientiously I object, the fact that I was never fully at one among leftward and god less Communist political activists Eritrean . for many of my friends belonged at time. My consciousnesses influenced by faith, family and Eritrean rich social culture ,it is very similar to Christian social conscience. and non-Christians alike. For civil rights activism, belong to all Eritrean I am no fan of all kind of dictators be it, IA, MZ,HSS, Derge , they played different role oppressing their people, belonging to same entity, each one of them in their own represent their people one way another .But they all belong to common crime against humanity and their criminal story represents in and of itself, is well documented and the rest is history . As Eritreans in diaspora .Though I long and missed Eritrea . There in my childhood, and in my early adult years lived there. On positive side .How lucky they are second generation of Eritreans to have been born in the “free world.” And their potential be achievers is something to proud off and may be the new generation will bring true change in Eritrea.

    • Beyan

      Many thanks Haw said for your input. I appreciate that you take the time to highlight your insights as well as your differing asserting your viewpoints capably grounding it using facts on the ground as well as historical accounts that are relevant to our discussions.

      • RealMadMullah

        Hello Beyan,
        I was ready to share my point view on the article. However, I was blocked from this website. It is a new form of Issiasism.
        It is really interesting that you point out the satellite communication can reach 90% of Eritrean population and the Eritrean opposing groups have taken to air wave quickly. I would donate to a satellite program that will transmit to the Eritrean population. I think IA is on his last legs people are seeking or tasting something new.
        I will wait for next article on the real of Mesfin Hagos. However, when I look at the Ethiopian opposition like Jawar… I see a Stanford educated middle age person running the message. How come in the Eritrean case we are waiting on someone 75+ years old ex-fighter with no college education as catalyst for change.
        I don’t know the demographics of Eritrea but in Ethiopia 80%+ of the population is below the age of 35 years old… that is why middle age Jawar resonant with Oromo youth… who does 75+ year old ex-fighter resonant with in Eritrea…

        • Beyan

          Selam RealMadMullah,

          The typical Eritrean responses when the regime in Eritrea does something unfathomable as in imprisoning individuals without any due course, the going mantra in denali was gele entezeygebbir aimitasran. (there had to be justified culpability, otherwise the regime wouldn’t punish a person). I don’t wanna be tempted with some such hypothetical as to why you were blocked. But I am glad you managed to share your views as the age issue you raise interesting to note. Inside Eritrea, I doubt there is no young blood left to his/her own devise to think. They are either at the border of Tigray or abroad. What you have is underage kids until they reach the SAWA age. Their attempt at resistance we’ve seen it in Akhriya in 2017. They were galvanized by a 93 year old Haji Musa. In our case, the Ethiopian parallel might not be possible to pull due to the facts on the grounds being completely different. There is no vibrancy left in the country. The youth leave in droves and they want revolution to happen from abroad. It is difficult, very difficult, which is why we need out-of-the-box thinking to take hold of our imagination as there are no models that fit our challenges.

          • Sultan

            Ahlen Dr Beyyan and Mad Mullah:
            I respectfully beg to differ on the Human Resources aspect , who can be Jawars.

            Besides the EDF, the College Students could do the job or something.
            Granted,the sophisticated and premeditated plan / efforts of keeping away the EDF and the College Students has worked well for the regime after the incident by the Asmera University Students in 1999 or 2000 or so .

            The Regime Leadership knows very well the big role the Youth and the students can play based on the same experience by sane regime leadership and members since it was the Eritrean Students, who were the engine behind the Ethiopian and Eritrean Revolutions .

            Speaking of Gen Mesfin and his leadership role,in fact, he could be an effective leader in the eyes of the Eritreans considering his tons of experience and the respect he has hai Ed by/among Eritreans.
            I completely agree with you about the role of an organized Media, which I have been lamenting about and advocating for .
            The experience of the EDAT and the OMN speaks volumes.
            But remember that the situation in Eritrea is “ unique and special “ due to the 50 yrs old experience in Organizational Security and in Deadly Security and Intelligence Network by the brutal and formidable regime.

          • Mad Mullah Lives

            Hello Beyan,
            The awate folks are blocking or deleting my comments. It is an Eritrean form of censorship. So, I am not sure if this will reach you.
            I think we have tried the Mesfin Hagos and his generation… what do we got to lose from trying the younger generation in leadership role. Whoever or whatever replaces Issias is not going to be from the Mesfin Hagos generation or is not going to be Mesfin Hagos. Mesfin Hagos is too old and uneducated to be in leadership role. We can’t afford another college drop out. We have had enough of Gedhli generation and their problems. Why not excite and incite the younger generation by using someone similar to Jawar?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Mad Mullah
            But..but the young generation are out of the country, by design. The hgdf mafia make sure these young generation’s life to be hell. So, they either to get the heck out of their own country or stay in big prison (slave labour) or small prisons, like Adi Abeyto.
            There is no way you can compare it to Ethiopian youths because the govts are so different.

          • Mad Mullah Lives

            Yes, you are right MM…
            However, you should focus on the future leadership… whether you realize it or not… Eritrean when they see Dr. Abiy they see hope and future…new paradigm in the horn… when you see Mesfin Hagos.. you are looking at the past… Trust me revolution happen when people get taste or see something better… they don’t revolt because they are suffering…
            When I traveled in East Africa like Kenya… at the airport you can hear the people asking why don’t they have someone like Kagame in power in Kenya…Kenya is full of corruption and Rwanda has minimal.
            Eritrean are looking at Sudan, Ethiopia and other countries and asking why don’t we have leaders like that… no one is asking why don’t we have a leader like Mesfin Hagos…. I am sorry he is a Gedhli dinosaur.. he is old and not dynamic… what is he going to say… “I am not Issias”… that doesn’t ignite a revolution…

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            MM,
            I have ever been in favor of Mesfin H., just to be clear. My argument was, even if the Satan himself decent to earth and request to remove the Eritrean Devil, I would say welcome!
            Paul K. is a kind of good dictator, similar to the guy who built Singapore.
            Colonel Abyi? Nah. He is Mestahbil.

          • Dongolo

            Selam መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. I believe you when you say that you would welcome Satan to Earth to remove PIA cuz you been sleeping with the TPLF for the past 20 years in a failed bid to do the same.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Dongolo
            Hating your boss, the devil isayas, doesn’t translate loving anyone.
            Are you that screwed or you are trying to confuse those idiots. Remember, you are at Awate’s forum. Try again. Call Adi-Halo for another trick.

          • Consolation

            Selam Beyan,

            You have been singing the same song for 20 years. Birds, of course, are constricted by evolution to do that but humans have the ability to learn and change their songs and introduce variations and modifications. Doesn’t it occur to you that there must be something awfully wrong with your views, that the simplistic formulas you have are simply too simple to explain complex issues. The stale ideas that have been exposed in awate.com and elsewhere over the past 20 years say more about their authors and readers than about Eritrea. Until you come down to earth and understand what Eritrea is and has been about for the past 40 years, then you are doomed to perpetual disappointment.

  • David Samson

    Selam Moderators,
    I posted a comment today, but was blocked by Disgust. I do not want to re post it. Could you release it please.

    • David Samson

      Selam Moderators,
      Initially disappeared, now when I try to edit it, I have the following red message

      “Comment cannot be edited if already edited by moderator”

      • David Samson

        Selam Moderators,
        I can see it so Emma too as he posted a reply to the post.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Dave,

          You know your thoughts you put to it. Compose it again and post it.

          • David Samson

            Selam Emma,
            I have it, but I do not to post a duplicate.

            I am also confused. I can see the post, read it, but can’t edit for typos.
            I am not sure if others can see it as well.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dave,

            It sometimes happened to me, that I can not edit either to add or correct my typos. Therefore, what I do in such cases, if it is a typos I let it go. And If something to add, I compose a separate comment as addendum to it right away. So if your comment is up in the comment section, let it go as is. The forumers can understand you.

            Regard

          • David Samson

            Selam Emma,
            Okay! I understand!

            Big brother has given me three choices:

            One of them is a moderator could edit a comment.

            How does a moderator edit or delete a comment if one can’t see it?
            Very Strange!

            I was ex-moderator of a site which had nothing to do with politics. I could see, edit, and delete every single comment on the site.
            I am not surprised though, given I denounce Commy, the brother has been on my case. His ghost still haunts me and George Orwell is watching us from his resting place.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All i have a question to the moderators. Why is it all anti TPLF thugs posts are removed and deleted? while prizing the thugs and adoring the dead good for nothing evil dictator are allowed and accepted? If the site becoming tigray-online, let us know so we can leave you alone. It is not fair. if you are in love and in support with thugs that is your business but if it an open forum, you got to be impartial. Not cool. Frankly, we don’t need to defend Eritrea because she won while the thugs are in disarray and the breaking point.

    • Consolation

      Hi Nitricc,

      Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this video.

      https://www.facebook.com/jamal.hamye/videos/1384434361755647/

      I posted this link earlier and the moderators erased it without any explanation. An enterprising Eritrean collected a number of instances in which people obsessed with Isaias keep invoking his name. It is a legitimate tactic in politics to discredit then obsessed! Now what these people don’t understand is that Isaias is one individual and it is precisely because there are millions of Isasias’ that Eritrea has defeated all its enemies.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Consolation,
        This [short poem] is what you said yesterday and now you are saying Isayas is just one person. Aren’t you contradicting yourself?

        ንሱ እንተዘይፍጠር
        ወይውን ኣብ ሰውራ ተዘይጽንበር
        ወይውን ብእዋኑ እንተዝቕበር
        ኣይምሃለውትን ኤርትራ ትበሃል ሃገር፡፡

        • Consolation

          Mehandi,

          Are you pretending to be stupid or what? It is precisely because every enemy of Eritrea thinks that if Isaias goes Eritrea will go that they spend so much time on him. He defeated the dirty Tigrayan cabal and is now going to bury them. Sayonara begamindos! One Isaias leading millions of Isaiases are equal to an unmovable mountain that defeats super-powers!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation,
            Ignoring your question…you guys [the NNNN] are the ones who equate Isayas with Eritrea. Reread your poem again.
            You write very good English doesn’t mean your comment has any useful content.
            You are dealing with an engineer and try to make any sense. Got it?

          • Consolation

            MM,

            You and your ilk are a defeated and spent force. My only mission is to wake you up from your delusional state, to console your defeated soul with tough love. Give it up. You are not going to defeat the Eritrean people. More powerful enemies than you have tried an failed. If you actually think those who shook mountains, the real ones, are going to surrender Eritrea to hademti, kedemti and Telemti, then you deserve whatever pain has soured your life.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Conso; i have been on this forum for a long time and there may highly educated people who come to this forum but i have never seen as loser as this fake mehandis ever to come out and diclare their discipline on their private occupation on this forum that tells you how low and stupid he is. Engineer, big F-ing deal. what is so big deal if one is a stupid engineer? he is not, i bet you he drives an uber. Simply put successful people don’t reveal their statutes, their humbled. not this animal. that tells me, he is nothing but fake shaizer.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Nitricc
            Sole-cell 55 years old…I would tell you to grow up but that is a stretch. Report to your barracks, private.

          • Nitricc

            Fake engineer; even if I was educated beyond toothless and worthless engineering; i wouldn’t brag about it because i understand i was educated at the expenses thousands far more smart than i am. But stupid people like won’t understand that concept. Who brags about being an engineer? You have no idea how much the world has moved on and you are stuck at the stinking engineering BS.I know i am wasting my time with person of low life and wasted. No Eritrean should brag about anything because there is a reason why educated and why the others sacrificed themselves to the greater good. You must have low self-esteem to brag so much about worthless engineering from the 70’s.

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            I want to defend the good Mehandis. Being an “engineer” implies some sort of “mastery over the universe”. Also some cultures place more value on formal titles. And don’t forget the minute Silicon Valley types wanted academic recognition they started calling themselves software engineers. And in the music industry there are sound engineers etc. Same thing with the “fintech” phenomena these days I wouldn’t be surprised if Universities start offering “fintech engineering” programs.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Aligaz G
            I was just trying to mess with their brain…nothing more.
            However, you said [ And don’t forget the minute Silicon Valley types wanted academic recognition they started calling themselves software engineers.]
            I am not sure if you are aware but SWE is real and you won’t believe how desperate a lot of the academia want to work in the FAANG companies that is owned by Engineers [either HWE or SWE].

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            Something happens with old age synaptic gaps get cluttered with detritus and circuits are easily fried. I hate to mix analogies but don’t hook a hooker Sunday mornings. Woz is an engineer but Jobs made Apple.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Aligaz G,
            First, I am not the sole-cell nittric
            second, you are flatly wrong

          • Aligaz G

            whoops I never had a normal conversation with the General. Dead giveaway

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation,
            No content as usual.
            1. HGDF has nothing to do with Eritrea or Eritreans. Thanks to social medias, everyone is aware of this by now.
            2. Hating Woyane doesn’t make you Eritrean. On the contrary, majority of HGDF leaders are from Tigray [nothing wrong with that but since you are obsessed with them…]
            3. Traitors are people who support HGDF, while HGDF is emptying the country.
            4. Again, you have no content except insulting and hate. However, HGDF has only one factory that fabricates hate and lie.

          • Consolation

            MM,

            There is a nice Amharic saying that translates into Tigirgna as

            ምኸሮ ምኸሮ
            እምቢ እንተበለ መከራ ይምከሮ፡፡

          • Dongolo

            Selam መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. So you are a Custodial Engineer. Great. Would you like to be addressed as Doctor or Professor or both?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dongolo,
            Go ask your boss, the evil dictator, and come back with an answer.
            So, the hgdf embassy is now rooming the social media because you guys have nothing to do, since the 2% is dried up?

      • David Samson

        Selam Consol,

        BBC has some editorial policies:

        Our correspondence has the following report.

        Warning:

        You may find some of the clips from our correspondence upsetting.

        Some viewers for whatever reason do not want to see upsetting clips. It might disturb them.

        I rarely agree with censored editorials, but I do with the one you posted this morning.

        I personally do not want to see people dying for whatever reasons. It is against human decency. As Habesha I am one of them.

        I hardly agree with your views, but if it was my site, I will let you express freely. We do not want to end on a site where a person talks to himself as TV-Eri does.

        Beggars can’t be choosers. You either have to up or shut up, unfortunately.

      • Nitricc

        Conso, nothing wrong except to say the site is compromised. If the thugs can get to General Mesfin, i don’t see the impossibility on this one.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Dave,

    Interesting argument, but I disagree on two things:

    Let me start with this statement:

    “politicians should be judged not by what they have done while in the office, but rather by what have failed to do.”

    You know and I know that things to be done is infinite, except we lined them up by priorities. Sometimes some priorities are a precondition to something to be done. Add to it, that each “to be done” requires a span of time, probably more than the term of the elected leader. The nature of the “to be done“ is crucial to the evaluation on the success of the leaders. Therefore, Politicians should be judged by what they did in the terms they are elected. Success is relative dictated by time and the goals set to be done within a given frame of time.

    Second, especially for countries that have “terms of election” – and if leaders exit because of the end of their terms, there is no way of knowing the public could vote them out. The examples you gave on the US presidents – Regean, Clinton, George Bush junior, Barack Obama, who finished their terms. Leaders could be judged on what they did and don’t on the goals set to be done (plus the unknowns that might happen) with in a given frame of time. Time and goal are the variables that determine success.

    Regard

    • David Samson

      Selam Emma,

      Let me quote another former UK’s PM: Harold Wilson:
      ‘A week is a long time in politics.’

      This might prove how stressful the occupation could be. As a leader, one might struggle to last for a week, let alone a term.

      Having said, term politicians could easily be measured by what promised and delivered.

      My USA’s politics knowledge is very limited. In the UK, parties publish manifestos before an election. The manifesto sets out the party pledges, polices and promises to deliver within a term.

      Practically, most successful parties probably deliver 60-75% on what promised of their manifesto.

      Many voters for whatever reason believe the party for which they voted for should deliver its promises— each pledge. We know it does not happen. This results in frustration, bad feeling, and voters’ apathy. Within this context, it is easy to see Enoch’s quotation.

      It is rightly so to hold politicians with contempt. Most of them are crooks, self-severing, downright liars, and psychopaths. They do not deserve an accolade and praise.

  • Dongolo

    Howdy folks. ‘Tigray opposition calls for federal government action on TPLF election’ https://borkena.com/2020/08/21/tigray-opposition-calls-for-federal-government-action-on-tplf-election/

  • Nitricc

    Where is Berhe? i need your take on this one while you learning the idea of nation building bottom up versus top bottom. mind you this is done under war of TPLF thugs, sanction, sabotaging the Eritrean youth, you name it for the last 20 years. it is just amazing. the future is bright.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=228&v=FeLPOwKhtxU&feature=emb_logo

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Nitric,

      Thanks for the link. I think you will even like this video better.

      https://youtu.be/yfqMrHSturk

      I have no problem a government have a policy and it wants to develop the lives of its citizens.

      This is all nice and looks cool for they ypfdj and pfdj crowds and makes them feel proud about their country and their government and can boost about.

      But they will never trade their lives with the young Eritreans who are paying the ultimate cost.

      Please read this below and ask yourself why is the government doing this to its youth?

      http://www.eritreadigest.com/living-with-trauma-eritreas-youngest-generation/

      Berhe

      • Nitricc

        Hi Berhe; you beat me to the punch. I was going to post the first link you shared but i don’t want give heartache to Melles lovers and sellouts but i just learned the four pillars of Eritrea, though. there is hope.

  • Ayneta

    Dear awate;
    Meles Zenawi died around this time 8 years ago on August 20, the great visionary leader who introduced Ethiopia to the twin challenges and prospers of democracy and development. He successfully maneuvered through the seemingly impossible hurdles thrown at him from naysayers and sabotages. He started with below zero approval, he went on to win the heart and soul of the most important constituent of the country: peasants. He fiercely defended the interests of his country in the regional and international arenas. Despite the doubt and overwhelming objection from the elites [Amhara] at any turn they got, he was steadfast in his conviction to build the Millennium dam which has immerse potential to benefit the country if the current government in Ethiopia can take advantage of it. He captivated the county with his profound orator skills, to the chagrin of the elites who couldn’t match his persuasive abilities. He was always a friend of Eritrea. Not only did he pave the way for Eritrea to be an independent country without shedding any further blood, he fiercely fought against forces with his own party to defend the country’s right to remain independent, for that Eritrea will forever be indebted to him.
    I have no doubt history will be kind to him when the dust settles down despite the relentless maneuvers of the current regime in Ethiopia to discredit his achievements.
    May his soul rest in peace!

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Brother Ayneta,

      Thank you,,How, great statement. May his soul rest in peace!

      KS,,

    • Nitricc

      Ayneta; your post is not only insult to the people of Tigray but it reveals your character. The African mentality lives on. listen and ask your soul, if you have one.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCjAh7ftuBc

    • Sultan

      Selam Aynom”
      Welcome back.
      Addendum to your list on PMMZ’s “Great Achievements”:
      Just the tip of the iceberg.

      Pre-Independence of Eritrea:

      -He questioned the positive fate of Eritrea as an Independent Nation thru his book entitled” Kalsi Ertra Kabey Nabey”

      -He was a mastermind of the Abay Tigray Republic
      -He conspired with PIA and contributed to the demise of one of the strongest Liberation Fronts/Armies jointly with the EPLF

      -He clarified his hidden agenda about the fate of Eritrea thru his interview with Herman Cohen and and the Infamous Jewish American Journalist/Diplomat.

      Post Independence:

      -PMZZ conspired and planned for the reversal of the Eri Independence through:
      a)Protesting against printing of the Nacfa and Sabotage of Nacfa Currency leading to the loss of more than $2 Billion by Eritrea by printing a new Ethiopian Currency/ Birr

      b) Provocation of Eritrea through Continuous harassment of our poor Eritreans at the border followed by a unilateral invasion of Adi Murug in the name of chasing
      out the Ethio-Afar Rebels

      c)Displaying publicly a new Abay Tigrai Map by taking away and adding to their new amp a huge chunk of Eri Territory(Thru a new map and Currency)

      d)Massacring cold-bloodily our Seven officers,who were trying to settle issues peacefully at the border/Baduma while our Eri Border Dispute resolution “Commission” was still in Addis negotiating.

      e) Bombing Asmera Airport and declaring officially a war of Invasion on War for a simple legit knee-jerk reaction by our EDF.
      f)Deporting more than 80K Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin and looting and confiscation their life time earned assets simply coz he did not like the color of our eyes.
      g)refusing a ceasefire and continuing the war despite the GoE agreed for a ceasefire and for the resolution of the dispute peacefully and causing the worst human and material damages on Eritrea and Eritreans and pushing hard to take over Aseb.

      h)worse,completely trashing the Algiers Agreement and the EEBC Verdict
      i)the worst of the worst,sanctioning,sabotaging and isolating and containing Eritrea and Eritreans through multiple evil axis from left and right /from all angles with the help of his Masters, mercenaries and puppets the IGAD and the AU.

      j)Executing the most dangerously devastating No War No Peace Policy and the setting up of filthy tigrai camps so that he will drain /dry up Eritrea from its productive force,the Youth and the EDF with the evil agenda of making Eritrea to collapse overnight.

      k)the abuse of the Eri ID and our poor refugees for his own benefit by getting millions of $$(minimum of $ 120 Million over 12 yrs in the name of Eritrean Refugees,not to mention stealing the visa allocated to our poor refugees to resettle his own tegaru to a well selected Western countries and Oceania and the smuggling and human trafficking of our poor and desperado refugee

      l)the inhumane condition of the filthy refugee camps risking our poor refugees to drug abuse,prostitution and infections disease including HIV and other STDs as well as TB and suicides.
      m)Doing his best(and an ongoing legacy as we speak)to keep Eritreans divided based onregion,religion and tribe based politics so as to make Eritrea another FAILED State like Somalia(hammed edde de’a’,id shendahit tsenahit).).
      Etc…..

      • Selam Sultan,

        It is also said that mz never repudiated the the concept of the so-called the “republic of greater tigray” which was to be realized through baptising people who speak the tigrigna language as tigrayans, which included eritreans, and other minority ethnic groups in the surrounding region, and by annexing their land as part of greater tigray. During his time he annexed fertile lands from gonder and wollo, thus expanding the landmass of tigray. In addition, the map of greater tigray says a lot, because it incorporates land from eritrea and the port of assab as well, thus the new republic will have access to the red sea in the east and a border with sudan, in the west.
        Some quote mz as having said even before he became the pm of ethiopia that, “We look to [the independence of Eritrea] from the viewpoint of the interests of Tigray, first, and then Ethiopia as a whole. We know that Tigray needs access to the sea and the only way is through Eritrea.”. What he really meant seems to be obvious, when one takes into consideration the fact that tplf annexed land from the regional state of amhara soon after it came to power with the declaration of ethnic federalism, and it wouldn’t have stopped there if the situation had allowed it, because the interest of tigray determines everything.

    • Dongolo

      Selam Ayneta. Meles didn’t die on August 20th (a date falsely propagated by TPLF) but rather on July 23rd. Meles was poisoned with polonium-210 while attending a G8 meeting in Washington May 18/19. Poor fool didn’t see it coming. Horrendous it is that the TPLF decided never to come clean with how and why he died.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Dongolo,

        I heard about this before and I think the Ghanaian president also died soon after / before who was attending the same meeting.

        I don’t know why the TPLF did not say if that actually happened.

        What circumstantial evidence do you have for your claim.
        Abi says you know a lot.

        Berhe

        • Dongolo

          Selam Berhe Y. Sorry but perhaps best that I do not reply to your query given that moderators have removed my post.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Ayneta,

      Except the Amhara Elites (Save Kim), the entire Ethiopian people recognize his contribution to the “unity” of the country and to the current economic and infrastructural development (railroad, dams, roads) on the ground, that everyone could see. We have seen the grief of the Ethiopian people during his funeral ceremony – an expression of love to the father of the poor Ethiopian people. The African countries saw him as fighter to the interest of the continent and hence represented them in the international stage. He fought defiantly to keep AU in Addis when an idea floated to move the office to SA….. and many more. Look now, Ethiopia is in a mess, being lead by incompetent man who came to power to fulfill the dream of his mother. He has no vision whatsoever to the country. He become the agent of foreign interest. He aggravated the mistrust with in the Ethiopian social groups to the extent to be at each other’s throat. So to your point, 8 years has passed since MZ has passed away. There is no progress in Ethiopia, except the footprint of progress left by him and his administration. RIP – a statesman in the heart of the poor Ethiopian people.

      Regards

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Ayneta,

      I think it’s ok ot admire the former PM. How can you say this.

      He was always a friend of Eritrea.

      What do you say to an Eritrea whose life turned upside down because of the deportation and loss of his business, his lively hood, his family and loss of his life.

      Can you say PM and his government was “always” friends to Eritrea.

      How about his decision to push the UN peacekeeping out by stalling the demarcation and for allowing the “no peace no war” to continue for 20 years.

      How about for his conspiring to struggle Eritrean people lively hood by imposing sanctions and made living condition and the economic condition of Eritrea very dire, with wanting to do business with the country, with wanting to use Eritrean ports, with wanting to travel, insurance costs, which made a lot basic needs such as medicine and others necessities very expensive.

      Now I know there is a lot of blame that can go around to the Eritrean president but was he really “always friends of Eritrea”.

      Now to the big question…even in the catholic church, it takes them at least 50 years minimum after the passing of a person to call him/ her saints except in very few circumstances. And that’s because, the generation has bias towards judging history of a person….so it better left to the next generation to make accurate judgement.

      Why I don’t understand is, Eritreans such as yourself, jumping up and down trying to shove “Saint Melles” on our throat day in and day out.

      What is the point really? Why can’t you just leave him alone to rest in peace and let history judge him for his deeds.

      You really are not going to convince any person, honestly, but instead you are spoiling the peace and friendship of the two people to live and let live by constantly reminding the scars left by his government against the innocent.

      Let it go, please.

      Berhe

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Ayneta,

      I agree with most of what you said above. In fact, I have posted several times defending the good deeds and leadership of Meles, so much so, that I successfully annoyed a lot of both Ethiopian and Eritrean Awatistas. Just read Nitricc and others.

      At the same time I don’t want to canonize Meles as the perfect great leader. I will say, yes, he was a brilliant visionary and most successful Ethiopian leader of modern times.

      You passed over the white elephant in the room by merely stating……”He was always a friend of Eritrea.”
      I am sorry as a fan of Meles, to say this. He was not just a friend of Eritrea, he was an Eritrean in his actions, more so than PIA.
      From 1991 — 1998 he let the Eritrean side go a muck on Ethiopia doing everything legal and illegal under his watch. He later admitted that he was trying to help them find their footing.
      He was negotiating with the U.N and Eritrea on behalf of Ethiopia, while all along he was protecting the Eritrean interest. You could say Ethiopia was never properly represented.
      A large number of conscious Ethiopians never forgave Meles for that and his early actions and statements.

      During 1998–2000 war, Meles put all obstacles on Ethiopia in favor of Eritrea, a deep split occurred in TPLF itself, never mind the rest. TPLF never recovered from that split damage.( Seye Abraha)

      There were other issues too, but.. but having said all that I believe he matured on his job and led Ethiopia to become the fastest growing economic power in the 2nd half of his administration.
      His skillful, untiring effort, produced advancement in almost every field. For that I am grateful we had him as our leader. I felt the pain of the bitter loss like most average Ethiopians.

      I sometime get baffled by Eritreans who see him as their enemy. They mentioned the deportation of Eritreans from Ethiopia during the war. They completely fail to see his predicament that PIA was giving monition to his opponents.
      These are the same people who absolve PIA from any blame for anything. It is amazing to me.

      A long time ago, I was trying to defend Meles, I said the following roughly.

      Meles was born from an Ethiopian father and an Eritrean mother. During the divorce proceedings Meles wanted to make sure his mother will be taken care of for life after the divorce and did his best. Not an enviable position to be but who said life is fair.
      I think history will be good to him. My admiration for him grew with time as I read more and more available information about him.

      Mr. K.H

      • David Samson

        Selam KH,

        “I sometime get baffled by Eritreans who see him as their
        enemy. They mentioned the deportation of Eritreans from Ethiopia during the war. They completely fail to see his predicament that PIA was giving monition to his opponents.”

        These are the same people who absolve PIA from any blame for anything. It is amazing to me.”

        First, correct your language by modifying the “All by Many”

        I do not understand by the statement

        “PIA was giving monition to his opponents.”

        Okay”, let me put you in your comfort zone: IA started the war.

        We also heard the deportees were Eritreans who voted for Eritrean Referendum. Some of the were Shabia’s Spies. Do you believe all these
        crap? If you do, please grow up and get off from siege mentality.

        How Melse is more Ethiopian than sons and daughters of Lorenzo
        TAesas? I am not going to lecture you on Lorenzo. People who never knew whose blood was across the river were deported.

      • Nitricc

        Hey Kim please don’t fall in to the trap of Melles lovers. He paid them and they are serving him for life, the END. Let’s about a leader and leadership. a leader is judged 20 years in the making. Now it has been 20 years, i want you to look back at his legacy and where the country is now. If so, would you say he was a visionary leader? I am not going to explain about the situation in your current country but i want you to gather your courage, honesty and integrity and tell the truth in my face. Even if you had a paid air ticket and free food and free everything for a month paid by the Thugs. be carful; your character matters.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Nitricc,

          I think you have an arguable point. Ethiopia is a very complex country. I have a very limited knowledge about it, you even less.
          With that caveat, when Meles walked in 1991, Ethiopia was on the verge of the abyss. He did his best.
          I did not and do not credit or blame him for everything that happened during his term and beyond. If you haven’t noticed, I was critical of him about his early dilly dallying with your PIA. He was not perfect.

          In addition, others played their role too and others still are playing the game to leave their imprint.
          Perhaps, in another 20 years you and I will discuss the different contributors to the great African Super Power.
          So many dam Dams, we replace China building dams all over Africa. What do you say.

          Mr. K.H

          • Kim Hanna

            Nitricc,

            BTW: How do I get the ticket and free DORO WOT meal for my effort. I might as well.

            Give me the 1..2…3 application process. Tell me how to go and visit Asmara on my way…acknowledging what I might have said about PIA

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Hello Mr Kim
            I was in Addis in 1991. You said that in “1991 Ethiopia was in the verge of abyss “. Where did you learn this bogus thing you are generously dispensing? I was in Addis. Tplf controlled Addis Tuesday ግንቦት 20. People went back to work Thursday morning. Salaries were paid by the end of the month. Only the university remained closed since the students were already out of school.
            Please, you can admire Meles until kingdom comes. Dispensing something that never happened is unacceptable.

          • Kim Hanna

            selam Abi,

            Tigray Peoples Liberation Fronts, Oromo Liberation Fronts and others had mission statements for their organizations.
            If they had gone through with it, no one could have stopped them.
            They had a blank page to write whatever they wanted.

            The civilized nature of the citizens of Addis and the change of hearts of the rebels paved the way to today.
            We should all be a little appreciative of the turn of events. We were exposed. Regardless of their motives they saved Ethiopia to what it has become. It is not perfect, but we still have a chance to fight for it another day.

            I also acknowledged to Nitricc above that I know little. I know what I know from reading materials from people like you. The last time I visited Addis was in 2000. I digest all I heard from family and the rest to form my opinion. I am comfortable with it. I don’t mean to rub salt in people’s wounds.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Hello Mr Kim
            The country is divided and in danger now. Not in 1991. Thanks for Meles’ ethnic politics. I don’t have to read or hear it. I lived it.
            ለቀባሪው ማርዳት ያስተዛዝባል::

          • Selam Abi,
            Let me bring this analogy. If during the cold war, the super powers didn’t go for a thermonuclear war of complete destruction, can we say that they didn’t do it out of their kindness to save the world, or was it due to their fear of mutual assured destruction? Should the world thank them for that? Mz had manifested his hate for Ethiopia on many occasions, but he couldn’t act on his sinister feelings he had in his heart for Ethiopia, because he knew very well what he had to lose. He knew that without sucking the blood of Ethiopia, he can’t make his dream of greater Tigray come true. Tigray can’t exist as a country, oromos could have been overrun by extremist Islamists, and a huge fire could have engulfed the whole region. In addition, the west that facilitated their success wouldn’t have allowed to see the horn of Africa on fire. Otherwise, if he knew he could have survived the mutual destruction, he wouldn’t have given it a second thought to push the button of Ethiopia’s disintegration.
            Mz created for Ethiopia a major problem that will take the country a hundred years to solve. It is his ethnic federalism or zenawism. It is a poison that kills Ethiopians everyday. His negative legacy for Ethiopia is similar to the Covid-19 that has put the world in danger of extinction. The world has Covid-19, and Ethiopia has ethnic federalism and the tplf Constitution with article 39.
            Therefore, the ungrateful Ethiopians can’t be grateful for that.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            One word that perfectly describe Tplf is “parasite”.

          • Aligaz G

            KH,

            Meles was your typical arada from Wingate. Forget Adwa. Meles feasted on suckers and everything was a joke until he had you thrown in jail or erased. His main legacy will remain the dam and the fact he paradoxically continued the centralizing trend started by Tewodros all the while taking credit for ethnic federalism.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Aligaz G. Re MZ’s legacy, which dam? Many, notably the TPLF inclined, tend to forget about the complete utter failure of the very costly Tekezze dam project. The home bound Tigray project was has never even come close to projected power output.

          • Abi

            Aligaz
            “በትኖ ማፈስ” ይሉሃል እንዲህ ነው!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kim,

        I love your independence, that enabled you to say the truth as it appeared and happened, about the man. The man made Ethiopians and Africans very proud in the international stage. He challenged the world bank and IMF and proved for them how developmental state is good for Ethiopia which eventually accepted as a model for African countries. UnLike many African leaders, he had never been dictated by the powerful countries. He lead the country by his own vision. I salute you for your bravery and fairness despite the ear deafening cacophonies against him. In the final analysis, history will account and reflect about him not far the way you did. I tip my hat to you,

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

          Thanks for your generous statement.
          You reminded me of one incident of Meles and the world bank or the IMF, I read somewhere.
          It was reported that Meles and other African leader or leaders while negotiating with the Bank pointed it to them that there was X billion extra dollars available at their bank, something they didn’t think they had. I think it had to do with the appreciation of Gold in their possession.
          When I read that, I was really proud how he was playing the game with the big boys at their turf.

          Mr. K.H

  • Sultan

    Hello Dr Beyyan:
    A great follow up Article.Anxious to read part III.
    Few things to mention.
    Do NOT forget also the bold Protests and recommendation by the the Conference of the Eritrean catholic Bishops,the most realistic and practical recommendations.

    “The Mesfin Hagos pivot can be made to succeed but there are numerous other issues that he must be willing to accept, as well the public willing to be led under one slogan, such as “one country, one destiny”. The task of explaining the challenges that lay in wait for Mesfin Hagos will be entertained in my final article that will follow in a few days.”.

    Mesfin Hagos “Willing to accept’?
    Are you planning to suggest to him some preconditions to lead the lead?

    Is this initiative by Mesfin ONLY or in collaboration with other Eri Opp Groups and Figures?

    I am expecting to read the following in your part III Article.

    1)Why have we failed thus far despite that we have been fed with tons of projects and ideas?
    2) If we failed before with past Summer,Fall,Winter and Spring Projects and many Opposition Projects and Conferences as well as Initiatives,what would make the Mesfin “Summer or Fall Project” to succeed?

    I expect your article to shed some light on answering the above questions and provide us with some realistic and practical as well as EFFECTIVE Strategies so as to move forward…FOCUSING on our weaknesses as Eritreans in general and as Opposition Camp in particular.
    We Eritreans DO NOT need new ideas but realistic and practical as well as effective strategies and solutions.

    Worse,we even know well as why we have failed and what the solutions are.

    The major dilemma and concerns are:
    How can we correct our past mistakes and failures and get rid off the obstacles?
    How can we improve the old-styled chronic ailment and malignant disease ,our rotten Eritrean Political Culture?

    I remember the AT or Editorial Team blaming or questioning some ideas and suggestions put forward by Opposition Groups and Figures by declaring them as” Winter Projects” even questioning and challenging some X-EPLF Figures like Dr Fekadu Tekheste while graciously posting the “Projects and Conferences” by few other groups ,which made it look like a Partisan approach and a sort of an Obstructionist and Contrarian agenda.

    This is NOT to mention that at times,we have been fighting against each other by calling each other with names like/as Jihadists and Crusaders.

    • Beyan

      Hello Sir Sultan,

      These are the kinds of responses that a writer revels at reading from a reader. With the anticipation of the follow up in mind, gently, insightfully shares observations and requests clarifications. How could I, for example, have glossed over the abello Hawkha of our Catholic patriots. But it speaks to why these kinds of discourses should always be par for the course if we are going to have a society that continues to evolve as it aspires toward the City in the Hill, if you will. It is why the USA continues to be a dynamic nation, save the current administration, which will go in the history books as an era of infamy. But, it’s just a blip, it will bounce back toward the trajectory of seizing its hold of the imagination of the world as a nation in which everyone and anyone looks up to. It’s in that spirit those of us who chose to be critical of the new nation Eritrea even at is infantile stage – mid nineties – were misunderstood wholly by the ever-suspicious nature of Eritrea’s body politic that still haunts every sector of the opposition.

      The efforts of serving as a mirror image that would tell the leaders their shortcomings did not go well with the deahi crowd of the mid-nineties. They chose the distorted version of it by telling the regime it was doing mightily fine, as it were, pushing them to the cliff, into the abyss. Even when the regime imprisoned a pregnant journalist, Ruth Simon for reporting what she saw, during the tensions that were brimming with the Sudan in the early nineties. Needless to say, word of the time had it she ended up delivering in prison.

      The way I’m conceiving my third piece is this: That it really needn’t be Mesfin Hagos (MH), it may as well be Dr. Araby Debessay, for example. The ideas I would present will be applicable to any leader with a potential to lead. It is just that it so happens MH has attracted attention from young and old with point of views far on the two ends of a political spectrum. Whoever ends up being the leader, it will be more the quality of people he needs to surround himself that would matter, not based on those he knows firsthand, but also people who have an accomplished track record in their professional careers…

      Your enumerated cautions and anticipations are taken to heart and shall be entertained as I write the last piece. I have written it many times over in my head. As you know, sometimes when committing the pen to a paper or fingers to the keyboard ideas have a way of presenting themselves to a writer. So, I need to pour it out, but I will certainly be cognizant of our highly complicated political and social dynamism that appears to take a turn for the worst.

  • Consolation

    Selam All,

    When it rains, it pours. The evil that the TPLF thugs have perpetrated is catching up with them. There is a very old proverb which has many versions. The version I like is “Though the mills of God grind slowly; Yet they grind exceeding small.” Accordig to Wikipedia, “it refers to the notion of slow but certain divine retribution.” Look at this video and see what I am talking about!

    https://www.facebook.com/jamal.hamye/videos/1384730888392661/

    • Ayneta

      Hi Consolation:
      How does this video satisfies your hatred towards TPLF? These are ordinary people falling from a bus, some of them possibly with life threatening injuries. Your hate towards the party/TPLF is one thing, your secret, orgasmic disdain towards anything Tigray borders sadism. Be better!

      • Kokhob Selam

        Selam Ayneta.

        How, is the hate blinded his eyes? Is he human being in first place? Really, that is strange.

        By the way, are you our Ayneta? Welcome my friend..

        KS,,

        • Ayneta

          Merhaba Kokebay:
          Thanks buddy.

        • Consolation

          KS,

          Do you think I am responsible for the fall of those drunk Weyane supporters? I am not. But I assure you that this is only the beginning. If Tigrayans follow blindly the TPLF thugs, then worse tragedies, much more worse, are going to befall them! So instead of expressing your fake outrage, advice your people not to follow blindly the TPLF thugs and criminals!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Consolation,

            No, why you have to be responsible? Ha Ha..

            KS,,

      • Consolation

        Ayneta,

        How am I responsible for a bunch of crazy Tigrayans shouting “ane Weyane ye”, who don’t have the sense about their safety, falling from a truck? The only thing I did is post a link to the self-inflicted tragedy and point out that God is mills are grinding! If you want sympathy, then you have to act like normal human people. Do you remember the pain and anguish of the 90,000 Eritreans you cruelly deported! Do you remember the anguish of the women you raped! I can list hundreds of such crimes and when retribution befalls,then I will point it out so that you Tigrayans understand your crimes and atone for them!

      • Samuel

        Selam Ayneta,
        When individuals become hopeless, frustrated, jealous, and fear of the unknown, when they don’t have anything to contribute to their people they always do the easiest job, which is to propagate hatred towards others. I am sure you are familiar with “The Tale of the Two Wolves”, some forumers may not like to google, thus, let me copy-paste the story —

        An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life, one evening the old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes-on inside people. He said — My son, the battle is between two “wolves” inside us all, he said to the boy. It is a terrible fight.

        “One is evil — It is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.”

        “The other is good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

        The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”

        The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

        Thanks,

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Ayneta,
        It is one way how they express their hate to the Tigray people. Their hate is not only limited to TPLF. The youngs who were falling from the truck are ordinary Tigrian people. No humanity whatsoever.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Dr.Beyan Negash,

    I didn’t forgot to welcome you .. I was only waiting to read all the 3 articles..I know you don’t mind to welcome you just now..Nice article..I appreciate you style as usual..

    As you can see, we have normal brains to discuss and we are doing fine…We are happy to see you back..I want to read the 3rd part …

    KS,,

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት Dr. በያን
    ሕራይ ዶ ቐኒኻ? ግርም!

    ክንደይ ግዲ ‘ዩ ዝወስድ
    ክስፈ ዝሳርያን
    መስፍን ሓጎስ ኢልካ ንመስሓቢ
    ነዘን ጽሑፋትካ ጎልቢብካየን

    ብሰፍ ዘይብል ጋቢ
    ንሕና ከነንብብ
    ንስኻ ክትጉልብብ
    ኮነ መሬት ተረባረብ
    ኣንታ ዶተረ ንታይ ገበርናካ?

    በል ሪአልካ ኣለኹ
    ሳልሳይቲ ጽሕፍቲ
    ተኸሺና ብጠስመ-ዘይቲ
    ብዛዕባ መስፍን ሓጎስ ክትዝቲ
    ተስፋ ‘ለና
    ይግበሮ!

    ‘ተዘይኴኑ
    ንሕናውን PhD ከይንረክብ
    ኣርእስትኻን ዛዕባኻን እክብ

    ትንታኔኻ ጽቡቕ ኔሩ
    ነቶም ዘንብቡ ዝተማህሩ
    ብዙሕ ኣይትጸበ ካብ ከም ዝኸማይ
    ብ ኣጋኦም ዝደንቆሩ

    ኤህ! ‘ንዳ ህግደፍ ደሓን ኣይትእተው

    • Nitricc

      MM; you are lost. What is your problem? PFDJ is Eritrea and just keep crying. you got a problem. I know you where hoping on the 80 years old man to do the job but disappointing he is limited to lecturing the youth not to go SAWA. it is sad a hero to go to zero at the end of his life. At this point he should have looking for nursing home.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Nitricc,

        He is not lost..You have been lost long back..But you are still alive..He is Professional Eritrean MM…I just ask everyone in this site and confirm what I am saying..

        KS,,

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Nitricc,
        Good question. My problem is HGDF and its supporters like you.
        Actually, in your case Private, your knowledge of Eritrea is dowloaded from ignorant parents hard disk. It is not your fault. Blame people like ከም በዓል ቲ ካሕዳም ወዲ ገራህቱ መሰልቲ።

    • Beyan

      Selam mehands miEbale,

      I was going to take the bait and try to respond in kind. Unfortunately, typing tigrinya is very taxing, time-wise. It was going to be along the lines of ብጽፍርና mantra. The railroad tracks was a good example where the regime resurrected retired Eritreans who worked on the railroad from eons ago, probably free labor, etc. But, I don’t think you would probably prefer for me to work on my promised third piece, which I hope to start writing it tomorrow. But, I must admit, your note above, it had me cracking up. Thanks for using humor to make your point. Points well taken, I will give it my best shot, the third piece, that is.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Thank you, Dr. Beyan!
        My goal is just to provide a little boost and some መማቕርቲ 🙂

        • Beyan

          selam nhandis,

          መማቕርቲ ኣይሳኣን: ጸብሒ ብዘይ ጨው ዘይምቕር:
          እንዳ መጻና አይንስኣንካ::

  • Brhan

    Hello all,
    I came back with other good stuff: I am not telling you about who it is, not to spoil the youtube presentation for you!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D5662Qwo1k&t=1289s

  • David Samson

    Selam All,

    Here is the interview’s translation of former Ethio Ambassador Kassa Kebede. For those who are not Tigrigna speakers, you can google the original interview in Amharic, by searching the ESAT’s archives.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaWn1QftYR4

    I was also about to post a link to J-Studio but decide not for reasons that I do not want to push the temperature up to a boiling point, as it is already hot this evening-thanks
    to Emma.

  • Brhan

    Dear Awate.com forum participants:

    This is a link for Mr. Mesfin Hagos message* to grade 11 students that are obliged to go to SAWA, their families and to Eritrean people in general:

    Note that Tigrinya runs from 00:00 to 7:27
    Arabic runs from 7:28 to 17:18
    Tigre runds from 17:19 to 26:35

    Source *ATV Asena

    Enjoy your weekend!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=KNX1sL5h20o&feature=emb_logo

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I have followed the very interesting interviews with both gentleman on Fana-tv. It is amazing how cruel TPLF thugs are. Now kind of make sense why TPLF is fighting with every thing they have. They to many crimes under their belt. Now I see why. Both Men were credible and for the most part they seem honest and candid. I have no doubt TPLF thugs will anything and to anyone but the killing of Hayelom by the TPLF lacks motive. What is in it for Yassin to kill Hayelom? What does he really benefit by killing Hayelom? To me the story of argument in a bar escalated in to what happened is more credible that what the ex TPLF fighter is telling us. If the Yassin was out of a country or in prison; we can say maybe but Yassin was hanged or faced execution squad, he is dead. I really don’t buy that. I don’t see a motive for Yassin to kill Hayelom. Overall; I tend to believe the journalist more than the ex-fighter. The ex keeps blaming how the TPLF thugs are regionalist that and this and he couldn’t stop talking about Enderta, I am guessing that is his village. Although I knew he was telling the truth when he calls out Aregawi Berhe as dangerous, calculated killer and Aregawi is there and he didn’t dispute i.e. he is a killer and the ex is telling the truth. Once in while I see Aregawi talking about democracy and all that crab but turns out he a killer. I am in the opinion of this interview will free the people of Tigray while some big kahuna will start to flee Tigray. I see a report yesterday 499 K dollars were apprehended in Humera and Sudan border. This shows you the main thugs are on the move. If the Thugs are smart, have the election and let the other parties, like Arena win, then TPLF thus will exit quietly. But they are too stupid to think that way.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear all,

    Today is the weekend this the late Meles Zeynawi,,The visionary was very smart and and perfect የአገርና ህዝብ ኩራት፣ ነሃሴ 10/2012 ዓ.ም:-

    Watch and say RIP..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaMfGCEvLkw&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1kuFUcoH9PHCTI866NlDdmLTkOWk9W4YgVTRiU5-oVtOq9_MajhncUniY

    KS,,

    • Nitricc

      Today is the weekend this the late Meles Zeynawi,,The visionary was very smart and and perfect

      Hi KS: it was the day the world got a little better. I have no idea how you people think. forget about me, although i have been telling how bad and dangerous the TPLF thugs are but are following what the two gentleman are saying on Fana-tv? Still you people are down with dead midget. The man was evil, thieve, corrupted and greedy.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Kokhobay,

      Watch out ንዝመጸካ ዘሎ መደረጋሕ!

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Pro.Aman,

        Who cares?… truth has to be told and openly..Frankly talking those who came you know that we are against EPLF and TPLF in 1980..we have damaged our head and heart those days..That was in perfect time..

        Now why is everybody blaming us don’t they care about the people? Shame !!! how can we inform them? But trust me ..Ethiopian people and Eritrean people will soon solve those problems..

        KS,,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kokhobay,

          If the PFDJites betrayed to the principles our martyrs have paid the ultimate sacrifice for, and if he shoot and kill our disabled war veterans for asking to look after them, then everything after that trampled one after the other, and clears the way to materialized his dream to bring Eritrea to the loop of Ethiopian federalism.

    • Consolation

      KS,

      What is remarkable is that your visionary is totally forgotten in Ethiopia. He was a nightmare that Ethiopians want to forget. He is responsible for all the chaos that we see today. He and his gang deliberately created ethnic antagonisms with the evil intention to make Ethiopia ungovernable. But, as always, evil backfires and today the divisions that they fanned in Ethiopia are infecting Tigray. Adwa is becoming the most hated region of Tigray replacing the Neftegna!

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Friend Consolation,

        Not at all, He was the best among African leaders..His leadership will come back in Ethiopia..He manage to develop in such short period,,None among the once you follow will compare with such very advanced fellow.. Now he has been exactly 8 years since he dead and our man didn’t match him even though he was with long back before him in our struggle..

        KS,,

        • Consolation

          KS,

          You are in denial. He is dead and forgotten. His memory is being defiled by two Tigrayans at Fana TV. A man who said “ጉሓፍ ጽረጉለይ” about 1,500 of his own fighters and had them poisoned to death is criminal with no name.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Friend Consolation,

            I am sure his admin is not forgotten but he is now in the heart of Ti ..gray people..Just open DW and just now.. You are watching the Fana and Walta the most corrupted channels.

            Look the bellow,,

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpS0Q0GzaaE&fbclid=IwAR1cxXvhXonFmhpFh0pTPaYWdRw2FeOZ5sVv1TkOSDkJm73G1zQ6pTnmSwY

            KS,,

          • Consolation

            KS,

            Tigray TV and DW are mouthpieces of the TPLF thugs. They are not going to tell you anything worth knowing. The reality in Tigray is that the TPLF is totally immobilized by division within. There are two factions at each other’s throat. It is very likely that the thing will end in a shoot out. In addition, corona is becoming very serious. Today, 273 people have been infected. In addition, there is a serious locust invasion that the Weyane government has done nothing to alleviate. Tigrayans may be nostalgic about the wonderful times when Meles was in power but the fact that they are where they are now is an indictment of the man and proof of his failures!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kokhob Selam,

            History is recorded events. I think, you said, Meles….”is now in the hearts of Tigray people.
            No, No, No I beg to differ. Meles, is in the heart of most ordinary Ethiopian people. No amount of propaganda can change the facts that happened. At the Meles’s funeral, most Ethiopians instinctively knew their big loss, and wept bitterly in every section of the country. (does anybody need youtube for that)

            With all his human faults, and he has some, he ushered the will of the people to stand together and build the GERD dam with our own hands. It takes leadership. No one else but Meles did that.
            Never mind everything else, for that single act alone he lives in our hearts.

            Mr. K.H

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Brilliant Mr. KH,

            Yes ..No one should deny this truth..Even those who fought during EPLF+TPLF the most criminal moment of those 2 fronts only should know it is normal to let the story go..not only you Ethiopians and we Eritreans but also those from far countries remember him..

            “With all his human faults, and he has some, he ushered the will of the people to stand together and build the GERD dam with our own hands. ” Yep that is very true..No sigle person can deny to such great person past story..He is recognized international man..

            KS,,

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kokhob Selam,

            I just remembered about his last unfinished project.
            Had he lived, he would have been the go to person for world climate change debates and leadership. He was invited and looked up to at the world stage by those experts who knew him.
            May he rest in peace.

            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            kim h
            u r admirer of emperor HS and at the same time u were ” yetemary rasa” i mean part of student movement. U r full of Shiit.
            any ways if ethiopia haters the likes of aman h , mm, ismael ….. keep glorifying and admiring meles, there is no way meles will be admired by ethiopians even for a single thing.
            he will be considered like them.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Conso; I am at lose with people like Aman-H and KS? i mean how do their mind work? even high school that was named after dead midget, the people resented, we are talking in Mekkele. One thing i know for sure, who ever think the dead midget is visionary; he doesn’t know anything about vision. The country is on a verge of collapsing and you have people here admiring the person created the misery. Some got to paid to say Melles was visionary, it got to be.

    • Samuel

      Selam Kokhob Selam,
      Thank you for sharing!!
      Look what happened after he left, Ethiopia became the political marketplace instead of developmental state. Even though Fana TV and ETV has turned into playground of Derg remnants and dictators, but most ordinary Ethiopians are grateful for what MZ did. If you go to most villages in Ethiopia they will tell you many success stories about MZ more than the so called intellectuals who are leading the country.

      In the last two years the “change agents” have “reformed” the system from industrial park building to tree planting, from infrastructure building to palace renewal, etc. History won’t be kind to those individuals.

      For the detractors, always remember this — “Hatred is sneaky — because it can seem justified. It can be built slowly through self-interest, deception, pride, jealousy, guiltiness and fear.”

      Thanks,

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    Read two head of stats’s remark about Eritrea:

    “The notion that Eritrea was or is part of Ethiopia is without merit, and one that remains fairy tale”
    [Meles Zenawi]

    “ Those who think we are two people are those who don’t know history”
    [Issayas Afeworki]

    Who is authentic? Which one of the two is respecting the aspiration of Eritrean people? pls have a say on these two head of states,

    Regards
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Haile S.

      Selam Emma,

      First my complement to you in that you know perfectly what attracts people; i.e Apples and Oranges. Coming to your question, you are comparing apples and oranges. The first was talking about territory he appears to respect, but despises the people. The second was talking about the people whom who had no respect at all, but ignores the territory. Both are killers of the aspirations of the Eritrean people.

      • Abi

        መምህር
        መምህር ብዬ ስጠራህ ክብርና ኩራት ይሰማኛል::

      • Selam Haile S.,

        Is it possible to say that a person who said that he had broken their spine, has the right to kick out Eritreans for the color of their eyes, renegaded on what he signed as final and binding and kept Eritrea and Eritreans in a no-peace-no-war limbo for twenty years in order to destroy the country, etc, could be better for Eritrea when compared with IA? He is telling Eritreans to choose between their two tormentors/nemesis, the one whom he worships and the other whom he hates. It is disingenuous, to say the least, and he is insulting the intelligence of the Eritrean people.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,

        The hot issue for us Eritreans is, as you know, how our despot is tempting to do against our sovereignty. The two quotes are referring precisely to it. The two quotes are not apples and oranges, rather they are the same and pick it whatever is your favorite?

        Second, I was responding to your poetic plea to go back to an Eritrean issue. I believe I did.

        Regard

        • Haile S.

          Selam Emma,

          No you didn’t. You didn’t come to Eritrean issue. Melles has nothing to do here, unless you considered him Prime minister of Ethiopia+Eritrea as you are now considering IA President of Eritrea+Ethiopia. Rather you went into just picking a fight.

          If you want to go to the subject at hand, then let me reply to you on your discussion with Woldegabriel Tesfamariam:

          Weeks ago, during your response to a forumer, I don’t remember who, talking of your ‘opponents’, you said, I am paraphrasing “PFDJ and TPLF will make peace and even then these guys (your opponents) will always clap their hands”. From this I assume PFDJ and TPLF will make peace on a round table. Then:

          1 – Why are you so repulsed by a round table between Eritreans?
          2 – When does blood for blood stop?
          3 – Does ‘surrender’ always happens under the sword and bloodshed and never on a round table?
          4 – Why do you give absolute priority to ‘principle’? Why not to being an example, in peace for example.

          Regards

          • Nitricc

            No you didn’t. You didn’t come to Eritrean issue. Melles has nothing to do here, unless you considered him Prime minister of Ethiopia+Eritrea

            Hey Haile; priceless.lol

          • Abi

            General
            When someone is a visionary leader, he can be a prime minister of two or more countries.
            Pay attention for a change:)

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ras Abiy; can you help me with what is going in here? Eritrea is out and for better or worst, she is gone. what the point of Aman-H and KS crying? i think they are paid and paid handsomely. I don’t get it. I know Aman-H is bought for life with a free airline ticket and free launch but how can you sell your soul for such a cheap commodities? what happened to principal and honesty? KS can stop taking about Bahir-dar while he is depressed about the fall of weyane thugs. what is going on? can you help in shading the light?

          • Abi

            General
            My theory is that they are ወዶ ገባ who are driven by deep seated grudges towards eplf/Eritrea.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            ወዶ ገባ? On the contrary. They are freedom fighters, till now.
            ህግደፍ + ኢሰፓ
            ሓድሽ መርዓ
            ኮሌነል ምስ ዓብ ዓርገን
            ናይ ኤረትራ ሕማም መርዘን

          • Abi

            MM
            I don’t want to guess what you are saying. Get back to me after software update. Your robotic mind and fingers are programmed to respond in Tigrinya.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            You want to join to the clueless who try to stick bumper stickers on my back. It is you who want to make it look like a fist fight.

            Second, the paraphrased statement you put as being said by me was not correct. Go back and quote me correctly then I will respond to you. You can’t fabricate to make your point.

            Third, frame your comment as your position and make it debatable than to throw it as angry reply that does not invite to engagement. I don’t feel angry like you, of having different position. What makes me angry is misrepresenting my comment for blackmailing purposes. And you are doing so. Is that difficult to quote my words exactly? Ezi wodehanka.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            See who is getting angry by using all kind of qualifier to feel clue-full? I don’t keep written records. I remember what you said and paraphrased. You can come up with what you said if you feel was misrepresented. Even without the quote the questions are valid. It is your choice not to answer.
            እዚ ወድሓንካ!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            I can not do your job Hailat. If you can not quote my words, don’t even try to engage me by taking out some of my words and inserting your own words to it. Not good at all, Hailat. Leave such practice to PFDJites.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            I found your comment. Here are the exact words. I thought it was in english, but found out it was in Tigrigna, 13 days ago, under the recent book review. I don’t need to translate, because what I paraphrased in not different.

            ….. እቲ ዝገርመካ ኣብ መጨረሽኡ: ናይ ግዜ ጉዳይ ‘ዩምበር: ወያነን ኢሳያስን ጉጅለኡን ክዕረቁ ከምዝኾኑ: ነቲ አርሒቁ ዘይጥምትን ዘየስተባህልን እንተዘይኮይኑ: መን ይስሕቶ::
            ግንከአ ከምቲ ምስ አቢ ዝተገብረ ናይ “መራሕቲ ዕርቂ” : ዝተረኽቦ ዘየብሉ ዘጣቅዑ ዘለው; ደሓርውን ምስ ወያነ ዝግበር ዕርቂውን ከጣቅዑ ከምዝኾኑ ምንም አየጣራጥርን…….

          • Abi

            መምህር
            I think what you are referring is Ato Amanuel’s comment on Bayan’s article. He was against any kind of round table negotiations or something like that.
            He said this couple of days ago.
            ገንዘብካ
            PS
            Scroll down a little and you will find it.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,
            The Bavarians look unstoppable. It would be an uphill struggle for the Paris kids to overcome German efficiency.. As said, Football is an old funny game, so all to play for. The spoil prat of Samab boy ought to walk up on the right-hand of the bed. If he is on a mode, he can turn the game upside down.

          • Abi

            David
            I just watched the Europa League final. Sevilla did it again.
            The Bavarians are extremely dangerous, well organized and excellent finishers.
            I already got the charcoal and Guinness ready. Getting ready for the yearly champions league final cookout!
            Enjoy the game!

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            The days are getting shorter and the dread of darkness will soon be upon us. I will make an exception for tomorrow night to catch up with the beautiful game. One of my mates has the habit of buying different beer every day. He said he gets bored with the same beer. This has allowed me experimenting with and testing of different brands. ‘Birra Moretti’ is the new fade. Since my first test, I have never looked back. I love its taste. Guinness has now taken the back seat but has not retired it yet.

            The Spaniard has the habit of winning the Europa cup. No other country has won for over 14 years now.

            I love the unique song of Championship league and it also reminds me of the end of football for a season.

            I want to enjoy the game, so I would stay neutral and would not back any team.

          • Abi

            David
            I’ve been hosting Champions league final cookout for a very long time. One of my neighbors ( a German from Stuttgart) brings his favorite Bavarian beer. I like Guinness because it tastes like ፊልተር ጠላ.
            I always remained neutral at the champions league games unless a team from EPL is Playing.
            Unfortunately The season is ending.
            Enjoy the last one.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Jetaw,

            No I was referring to another that dates back to more than few days, perhaps weeks. Usually you pay attention. It might not be the way I paraphrased, but I remember reading something to that effect.
            የቐንየለይ።

          • Abi

            መምህር
            I’m not paying equal attention to all participants. I’m becoming like most of you guys:)

          • Sultan

            Selam Prof Hailat:
            Guad Abi knows what he is talking about when he calls you “Memhir” in its real sense.
            Keep it up.
            I am totally lost about Prof Amanuel and his ” Politics”/Stands.There should be a reason as to why Prof SAAY told Emma to his face “Your Politics and Articles contribute only 0.001% to our Real Eritreans Politics and Problems,which was expressed when SAAY was frustrated debating with Emma.
            Tegadalai Eng and Artist Mahmud Salih GAVE UP on Emma for similar reasons. Mahmuday finally hit him hard and mercilessly by labeling him a de facto TPLF Cadre….by providing top TEN facts and evidence to back his claim.

            Emma loves attacking people’s personas,not their ideas,worse in a judgmental and non-professional and intellectual way with NO CIVILITY what-so-ever..
            Prof Amanuel Hidrat is entitled to his opinions,Principles and ideas but to NOT his own “FACTS/TRUTH”,and for sure NOT to judge other by being the Prosecutor, the Jury and the Judge at the same time.
            with all due respect to him,he is not the most ideal debater to debate with.
            Consult Prof SAAY and Eng and Artist Mahmud Salih and Prof Gheteb.
            Like one of my Uncles told him,he is still living in 1970s like most oldy X-ELFites do.
            His blind support and admiration of PMMZ and the TPLF vis-a-avis the Interest of Eritrea and Eritreans is but absurd and incomprehensible.

            I gave up on him after he told me that “It is for their National Interest” when I challenged him with facts about the devastating evil agendas,acts and policies on Eritrea and Eritreans.by the TPLF for the last 20 yrs.
            That would make him and his likes COMPLICIT for indirectly supporting the destructive agenda of the TPLF on Eritrea and Eritreans.
            Sad,indeed!
            I wish him the best and good luck; and may God bless him and GBU,Prof Hailat.

            “Is it possible to say that a person who said that he had broken their spine, has the right to kick out Eritreans for the color of their eyes, renegaded on what he signed as final and binding and kept Eritrea and Eritreans in a no-peace-no-war limbo for twenty years in order to destroy the country, etc, could be better for Eritrea when compared with IA”.

            Courtesy of Horizon.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            I consider myself an attentive student at Awate university. I’ve been named “best foreign student “ several times by foreign students association at Awate university.
            I don’t remember Saay or Teg Vet Mahmud debating Ato Amanuel Hidrat.
            I remember you debating him. I remember Nitricc debating him. I don’t remember the all time Great Teg Vet Mahmud debating him. Please remind me.
            የቐንየለይ

          • Sultan

            Guaddu:
            No matter what,mekebaber bahlachin new–asfelaghim new.Aimeslihim Guad Bro-in-Law.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            I remember debating Professor Amanuel Hidrat many times throughout the years. What I don’t remember is his debates against Teg Vet Mahmud and Saay.
            ጏድ አብዮታዊ
            ኢሠፓ ጠቅላይ መምሪያ

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi, Sultan and all,

            Interesting that you talking about Mahmoud Saleh. I just watched an interview he gave to Radio Erena in tigrigna. You can listen to the contents on eritrean politics by yourselves in the link below. I also learned he survived the nasty Corona-V.
            My best wishes to you & your family, Mahmoud!
            https://youtu.be/8aTB4k2Kzqk

          • Abi

            መምህር
            I hope he is well and kicking. My favorite ጨጏር ዳንጋ always defending his country no matter what. ኢትዮጵያዊ ቢሆን ኖሮ የኤርትራ ፕሬዝዳንት ይሆን ነበር:: በነበር ቀረ እንጂ!
            What is he saying?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Jetaw,
            In one line, he was saying, Eritrea is not getting the ‘peace dividend’ and also defending the “different stands” he had in Eritrean politics. The interviewer was pushing into way he seems to be changing his stands on the regime and he was explaining it was not changes, but “positioning” based on the interest of the country, as he sees it.

          • Abi

            መምህር
            He has always been a “reformer”. I think he keeps reforming himself or “ positioning “ as he calls it.
            Nobody knows the weyanes better than Teg Vet Mahmud.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            That’s not a good sign…he flip-flops a lot. Give him a month or two and he will flip again, as usual. Shame.

          • Abi

            MM
            The major difference between Teg Vet Mahmud and you is you have been trying the same failed tactics again and again expecting different outcomes.
            Teg Vet Mahmud is realigning his position and strategies depending on the objective realities on the ground. You are still expecting the weyane tanks and banks to take you to godana harinet. Keep waiting…
            ምስኪን መሃንዲስ ምንአለ?
            ምንም!

          • Sultan

            Mr Mod:
            I STAND FIRM on what I said since it was but truth!
            I told you to STOP selectively bullying on and threatening the King of the Kings.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sultan,

            What you wrote was removed before I saw it. Please write back in a way that satisfies the moderator.
            Generally, I agree with the advice of the moderator, to avoid ganging-up. It applies to many here. It is anti dialogue. Please drop the ‘Prof’ thing next time. That is the only anti-dialogue word I see from whatever remains of your removed comment.

          • Sultan

            Hi Hailat:
            No worries Prof Hailat.
            I stated facts.
            No one should be above the Law either.

    • David Samson

      ሰላም ኤማ፣

      ሎሚ እንድየ እዛ ትግሪኛ ጀሚረያ ከም መመረቕታን መፈስሕን ክጥቀመላ አየ።

      እስኻ ነዚ ሰባአይ ኣይፈለጥካዮን። እንዳስሃቐ ክጻወተሎም ኢዩ።

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        ሰላም ዳዊቶም,

        ካብኡ ዝገደደ’ኮ ንብጾቱ ኢልዎም እዩ:: “ከምቲ ዘምጻእክዋ ሕጀያ ክኸይድ እየ” እሊዎም እንድ’ዩ:: ከምቲ አዴኺ ተዓዛቢት እንድየ ዝበለት ሓንቲ አደ: ጥራይ ካብ ምዕዛብ አይትሕመቅ::

        Regards

        • Consolation

          ኣይተ ኣማኑኤል

          እንቋዕ ከምዘምጽኣ ተኣመንካ፡፡ ቲ ካልእ ግን ናትካ ፈጠራ ኢዩ፡፡”ዓማ ከም ጨው ክትሓቅቕ ኢያ” ክምዝበለ ንፈልጥ፡፡ “ንወያነ ባዕልና ፈጢርናዮም ባዕልና ክንቅብሮም ኢና” ከምዝበለውን ንሰምዕ:: ዝበሎ ስልዝትግብር ድማ ኣብዚ ቐረባ ወያነ ተቐቢራ ክንሰምዕ ኢና፡፡

          • Brhan

            Consolation,
            ሓንቲ ሕቶ ክሓተካ…ብጀካ ኣብ ዓዋተ. ኮም..ኣበይ ሓስባትካ ብናጻ ትገልጽ?
            እስኪ ነዛ ን እሽቶይ ግን ዓባይ ሕቶ መልሰለይ?

          • Consolation

            Brhan,

            What exactly is your point? I can do it anywhere in FB, twitter, I may even create my own web-site If need be. I am here to deflate, to disprove, to counter your illusions. If you want to dish out your delusions unchallenged, then ask the Awate moderators to ban me for challenging you!

          • Brhan

            Hello Consolation,
            I won’t never do that. I am a strong believer of freedom of speech. I am just reminding you in case you do not know that the regime in Eritrea is not allowing it at all in any forms.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Consolation,

            ዘምጽእዋስ እቶም ዝተሰወኡን ዝቀንጸሎምን ኣብ ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዝበልዩ ዘለው ተጋደልትን እዮም:: ኢሳያስሞ ኣብ ውዲታት ምእላም እዩ አሕሊፍዎ:: እቲ ዝበሎ ስለዝጠቀስኩስ ከም እምነት ተወሲዱ:: ናትካ ነገር ንአዳም ገረሞ ዘስምዕ’ዩ::

          • Consolation

            ሰላም ኣማኑኤል፡

            ብዘይ ብቍዕ መሪሕነት ዝከኣል ነሩ እንተዝኸውን: ልዕሊ ሻዕብያ ሰራዊትን ብረትን ሓገዝን ነሪኩም፡፡ ኵሉ ራሕሪሕኵምዎ ኢኹም ሱዳን ኣቲዂም፡፡ ኤሱ ተዘይነበር ውን ኣብ ሰማያን ሓደን መብዛሕትኦም መራሕቲ ሻዕብያ ንሱዳን ነዝልቕ ኢሎም ኢዮም፡፡ ኖ ዝሓወይ፥ ፈቲኻ ጸሊእካ፡ ከም ናይ ኤሱ ተራ ወሳኒ ኢዩ፡፡ ዝሓለፉ ዓመታትውን ሳላ ጽንዓቱን መሪሕነቱን ኢያ ኤርትራ ድሒና’ምበር፥ ካባኻትኩምሲ ተሸጥና ኢና ኔርና፡፡

            ንሱ እንተዘይፍጠር
            ወይውን ኣብ ሰውራ ተዘይጽንበር
            ወይውን ብእዋኑ እንተዝቕበር
            ኣይምሃለውትን ኤርትራ ትበሃል ሃገር፡፡

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ደባስ:
            ከምዝ ናትካ ምስ ሰምዑ ቦኾኽ-ቦኾኽ ይብሉ ኔሮም ሰብ ቀደም።
            ኢሳያስ ጨጋዕ: ገበነኛ: ካብ ብጾቱ ምቕታል ሓሊፉ: ክንደይ ዓመታት ናጽነት ኤረትራ ንድሕሪት ዝጎተተ ሰብ ‘ዩ።
            ‘ዝ ተረገም መንደላይ ተመን።

          • Consolation

            ሰላም መሃንድሳይ

            ነጊረካ ነረ ዓሚ
            ወይ ትኸውን ሃዳሚ
            ወይ ናይ ወያነ ክዳሚ
            ወይ ትኸውን ጠላሚ፡፡

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት Consolation
            መቸም ሰራቒ: ኩሉ ሰብ ሰራቒ ‘ንድዩ ዝመስሎ: ሕጂ ድማ ‘ታ [ምኽዳም] ናይ ህግደፍ ‘ንድያ: ንባህ ዘይበለኩም [ከዳሚ] ትብልዎ።
            ሓባል በልያ ከይ ቀደምትኪ ኴኑ ናትካ ነገር!
            Just to answer your question though: none of the above 🙂

          • Consolation

            ሰላም መሃንድሳይ

            ወይ ትኸውን ዓጋሚ እንተወሰኽኩላ’ኸ፧

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት Consolation
            ትሕሾ ግዲ ብለካ!
            ን ዝዓበየ ትግራዋይ ‘ንዳስገድካስ ንዓይ ዓጋመ ክትብለኒ። መቸም ሕፍረት ሼጥኩማ ኢኹም።
            ምዃን ኣብዝ እዋንዚ ኳ ዓጋመ ጽቡቕ ኣለዉ። ድኽነት ‘ዩ ኔሩ ጸገሞም ሕጂ ግን ትድኽነት ሳላ ህግደፍ ናባና ኣትዩ።

            To answer your question: wrong, try again.

          • Consolation

            Selam Moderator,

            Have you never heard of poetic licence? God, you guys are dishonest. Just read below, and the word is used there. It is a name of a province in Tigray.

    • Brhan

      Hello Ustaz Amanuel,
      Leaders use key messages from time to time. Also for a every moment , there is a message that fits it.

      Both, the late Meles Zenawi and Issays Afeworki said those statments at different times and at different situations.
      I believe Meles said that remark in 1991 when EPLF librated Eritrea and many in Ethiopia couldn’t accept this fact that become crystal clear due to the strugle of Eritreans. He even said if others think otherwise, እንደ ጨርቅ ቀላል ያደርግላችህዉ. Meles was not the only one from Ethiopian polticians to say such kind of remark but Lencho Letta, a famous Oromo poltician, said no Oromo man will die again in Eritrea. As you know the Oromo took the lion’s share in the Ethiopian army that was fighting against EPLF.
      In your question about authentic , I believe we do not need Meles Zenawi to compare him with Issayas Afeworki to answer the question of respecting the aspiration of Eritrean People. Issays has committed crimes agaisnt humanity long before the coming of Meles.
      Meles interest was Ethiopia before and after the Badme war. He can say and do anything about Eritrea to serve his interest. And we have seeing his saying and doing. In one way he said he did not like the color of our eyes and did conduct deportation in its ugliest form, made his forces reach beyond the disputed land and caused to the displacement of many people. And there was a time that Issays start to prepare to go to Sahel again but it is said that Meles refused to march to Asmara saying that this is against International law and will be considered an attack to a soverign country which made him quarrel with his hardliner comrades.

    • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

      Selam Amanuel,
      They are both Tigreans and enemies of Eritrea, whose ulterior motives are deep down buried beyond their verbal words. Meles stands as an intelligent and devious personality who outsmarted both isayas and the Eritrean oppositions. Some who realized that they have been played are joining the forces of the justice seekers. I believe, we shouldn’t be obsessed with the past as both Meles and isayas are only footnotes of history while we are part of the future history of Eritrea.

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ

    ገዛ ዓወተ ኢላ ጽምጽም
    ኣብ ሎሚ በጺሑ ደኺሙ ቀላጽም?

    ወይስ ኣብ ሎሚ በጺሑ ሰብ ወሲዱ ዕረፍቲ
    ንዓዱ ጥራይ ትምልከት ምስ መጸት ጽሕፍቲ

    ሸውዓተ-ቀመማት ሳዕሪ-ሳዕሮ ዘይብላ
    ንኤርትራ ትምልከት ጽሕፍቲ መዓር ወለላ

    ንለውጢ ትጽውዕ ብግንጺ ካየልዓለት ጎዞሞ
    እትብል ጎሮሮና ንኣኻኽብ ብዘየዳግም ክንሃርሞ

    መረጻ ፕረሲደንተ ኣማሪካ ህዝበይ ቀልባ ወሲድዎ
    ኤርትራ ኤርትራ ኤርትራ ዝብል ጻውዒት ዘንጊዕዎ

    በጃኹም ኣይንሰከፍ ክንዛረብ ብሃገርና
    ውዒሉ ሓዲሩ ንምሸቱ ንሳ እያ ናህና

    • Consolation

      ኣቶ ሃይለ

      ተዛረቡ፥ ተዛረቡ፥ ተዛረቡ
      መን ይፈልጥ፥ ዘረባ ተኣኪቡ
      ባሕሪ ሰጊሩ፥ ኣስመራ ዓሊቡ
      ንወዲ ኣፈ ተልገሶ፥ ካልቾ ሂቡ፡፡

      • Haile S.

        ሰላም ኮንሶላስዮን፡

        ዘረባ ተኣኪቡ እወ የስምዖ
        ጽን ንዝበለ፡ እዝኑ ንዝኮክዖ

        • Consolation

          ሰላም ሃይላት

          ዕስራ ዓመት፥ ተዘሪቡ ተለፍሊፉ
          ኣእዛን ከይኮርኵዐ፥ በኒኑ ሓሊፉ
          ክንደይ ተባሂሉ፥ ክንደይ ተጻሒፉ
          ኣንባቢ ዘይብሉ፥ ተሰንድዩ ተጓሒፉ፡፡

          • Brhan

            ሰላም ኮንሶለሽን

            ጽምኣት ናጻ ሓሳባት

            ሰዓብቲ ህግደፍ ኣንቱም ደገፍቲ
            ጽምኣት ናጻ ሓሳባት ዶ ጌራትኩም ኣይ ላዕሊ ኣይ ታሕቲ

            በሉ እንኳዕ ደሓን መጻእኩም እተው ነስነስናልኩም ሰቲ
            ንቐደም በሉ ምስ ተቓወምቲ

            ብልዑ ስትዩ ሺሻይ መሊኡ ኣሎ ኩሉ መዓልቲ
            ርኢኹማ ዶ ሓሳባትካ ብናጻ ምግላጽ ክንደይ ምቅርቲ

            መዓር መዓር ጢዒማትኩም እዛ ኪያንቲ
            ደንበኹም ዶ ኮይኑ ኣይብላዕ ኣይስተ

            ናብዚ ብምምጻእኩም ግን እግሪ ዘይሰሓተ
            ከምድላይኩም ዶርጉሑ የለን ዝድርተ

            ግን ተማሃሩን ኣተግብሩን ስነስርዓት ዘተ
            ይልመደኩም ድማ ክትብሉ ጸባ ስተ
            ነቲ ጽምኣትኩም ዘርዋሃልኩም መርበብ ዓዋተ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ብርሃን

            ንብጫ ቀይሕ ዝብሉ
            ሕልናኦም ዝሸጡ ተዃሉ
            ጥዒምኩም ኣሎ ይብሉ
            ንዝተበደሉ
            ካብዞም ሕልና-ኣልቦ ፍጡራት ተስፋ ኣይትግበር

            ኣብ ክንዲ ንህዝቦም ምድባስ
            ዝለመዱ ኣፎም ምዕባስ

            ኣብ ናጻ ሃገር ‘ንዳነበሩ
            ካን ጥልም ዘብሉ
            ነቶም ብጅግንነት ዝተቐብሩ
            ስውኣትና ድማ ይብሉ
            ዘይሓፍሩ
            ተስፋ ኣይትግብር ክቕየሩ

            ካሕዳማት
            ናይ ታሪኽ ርስሓት
            ብገበን ኩሩዓት
            ሰብኣይ ዝምንጥሉ
            ካብ ኢድ መርዓት
            ከመይ ‘ልካ ተስፋ ትገብር?

            ትጽቢት ኣይትግበር
            ከም ውዑይ ማይ ክሃፉ ዮም
            ‘ቲ ስርዓት ምስ ዝቕበር
            እዞም ሰብ ፈገር-መገር
            ተቦንቊሮም ክጠፍኡ
            ካብዛ ብርኽቲ ሃገር

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም መሃንድሳይ

            እዞም አየብዚ አየብቲ ከፊኦምና
            ገና ክንዛተ ይብሉለው ምስ ቀታሊና
            ምስቲ ሓደ ህዝቢ ኢና ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ዝበለና
            ከምቲ ዘምጻእክዋ ክወስዳየ ዋላ ተበለና

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ!

            ካብ ኩሉ ዝኸፈአ ላንጋ-ላንጋ
            ምሳይ ኣሎ ‘ንዳበልካዮ ዘግደዓካ

            መትከል-ኣልቦ
            ሸተት ምባል ዝለመዶ
            እዚ ‘ዩ መርገጸይ
            ምባል ዝኸብዶ
            ሕልናኡ ትፍረዶ!

            እምበር
            ኣምብሬዛ ደኣ
            ነጊሩና ‘ኳ ‘ዩ ብግልጺ
            ኣብ ዓለም ጌሩና መላገጺ

            ኣፍልቡ ንዳሃረመ
            ሓደ ህዝቢ ኢና በለ
            ካብዚ ንላዕሊ ‘ታይ ክብለና ንጽበ?

          • Haile S.

            ሰላማት ኮንሶላሲዮን፡

            ኣንታ ሓቅኻ ኤሱ ተለኲቱ ኣእዛኑ
            ጽን ክብል ዝተሳእሎ ተደልዩ ተሳኢኑ

            መሊኡ ዝተሳእሎ ግንባሩ ኣሲሩ ዓይኑ ‘ፍጢጡ
            ግና ኣይትረክብን ዓሪፉ ዝተላዕሉ ሰላም ኣራጢጡ

            መራሒ ሃገር ክኾና ኣለወን ኣእዛኑ ራዳር
            ኣብ ስልጣን ዝደየበ ስለዝኾነ ህዝቢ ንምምሕዳር

            ታሕጓስ ዘስተንፍስ ደግኡ ዝመልኦ ፍሽኽታ
            ሓሳበ-ስቓይ ምጥርጣር ቀቢሩ ኣብ መዓንጣ

            ኣብ ህዝቢ መከርኡ ዘይሕይኽ ከም ብዕሪር
            ይፈጥረላ ድኣ ይኸውን ‘ዛ ናትና ሃገር

            ምኽሪ ክልግስ ንመስፍን-ሓ ካይረኣኹ 3ይ ጽሑፍ በያን
            ፍሽኽታ ይልመዶ ሃገር ኣይትምራሕን ብገጸ ሓዘን

            ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ተስፋ ዝቖረጸ ኣይንረክብን ቢሉ መራሕቲ
            ተስፋ ዘለዎ ገጽ ስለዘይረኣየሎም እዩ ነዞም ተቓወምቲ

          • Consolation

            ሃይላት

            ኢሳያስ ዘስዕል ጕንፋዕ ከመይ ሓንጎል ሰበ ከምዘበላሹ ክትፈልጥ ተደሊኻ ነዛ ቪድዮ ተዓዘብ፡፡

            https://www.facebook.com/jamal.hamye/videos/1384434361755647/

          • Consolation

            ሃይላት

            ኢሳያስ ዘስዕል ጕንፋዕ ከመይ ሓንጎል ሰበ ከምዘበላሹ ክትፈልጥ ተደሊኻ ነዛ ቪድዮ ተዓዘብ፡፡

            https://www.facebook.com/jamal.hamye/videos/13844343617556

          • Consolation

            Hi Moderator and ato Haile,

            Can you explain why you removed the link to the video which shows the effect of contracting the corona-isu? Are you people so fragile that you need to be protected with whole-body masks! Ato Haile, visit the fb page of ጀማል ሓሚየ to see the video I intended for your pleasure.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Dr Beyan,

    I read your article as Part-II of the three series. I can’t imagine how these “two parts” that has nothing to do with Mesfun Hagos, will relate with the upcoming part-III that deals with him. So far I read the two parts as two independent articles with independent messages. However, I will wait to see how you will find the connection or call it the “bonds” between the three series to be read as one “comprehensive message“ to tackle our current predicament.

    But, let me go back to this one. In this article, I read the following statement:

    “ Thinking that consists of robust strategies and tactics that can compel the regime in Eritrea to come to the table to talk.”

    This statement gave me the impression you still believe that the regime could come to a round table if we exert the needed pressures. Correct me if I am wrong. But if I am right about your thinking, then I will delightfully differ from you, that the kind of regime we have will not come to a round table with whatsoever pressure we could exert on it. Rather the regime will fight to the end, even if it could lead to its demise. So I am always against entertaining of “round table talk” with this kind of regime. Doing so will only prolong the struggle for justice on the one hand, and will divide the opposition forces on the other. Besides, it will add another hurdle to our political dichotomy “reform vs fundamental change” and “peaceful vs by all means” that haven’t resolved yet.

    Let us see two different autocratic system in order to differentiate ours (a) an autocratic system that constitution and basic democratic election cycle (b) an autocratic system that hasn’t constitution and basic election cycles. With the former you have the rules of engagement you could hold the ruling regime, and possible making demonstrations. All these despite the suppression and resisting for any change by the power holders. Ethiopia is an example of this scenario, that still gives room for negotiation on a round table. With the later the regime is the alpha- omega on the fate of the nation. Either they don’t have constitution, like ours, or have a constitution tailored to serve the clique and its system with no election whatsoever. Such kind of regimes do not believe in negotiation on round table. So doctore, we don’t agree what kind of regime we have till this day. And we can not move forward without settling this central issue.

    Regards

    • Brhan

      Selam Prof. A. Hidrat,

      In this comment I will try how the two parts relate Mesfin Hagos (MH) and I have the same feeling the third one will relate to MH.

      In my understanding Dr. Beyan :

      1) In the first part , presenting the question: WHO. He is asking us that among all be it politicians, public opinion leaders and activists , who will be the ideal person that most of us can rally behind in our struggle against the regime. Is MH the ideal person? I believe Dr. Beyans sees that. As you know MH is a controversial person not only because of his past but also because of the recent time actions, notably his visit to the region of Tigray and meeting with TPLF. We can argue on this but I believe the first part is again about WHO and it relates to MH.

      2) The current article is about HOW? And this directly about us the Diaspora, including MH and Dr. Beyan.

      Dr. Beyan, in this article sees that Media is the best tool.

      I do not know whether it is coincidence or not but two days ago MH released his message that is being circulated now in social media. ( I will try to post the link in the weekend) but this message is not only unique in its content but also style. I would like you to judge its content but the style is significant. The message is transferred in many Eritrean languages , Tigrinya, Arabic , Tigre. I think the WHO (the previous article) and the HOW ( the current article) relate to MH.

    • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

      Selam Sometimes ideas like prisms reflect multiple colors and become prone to different interpretation depending on the angle we are viewing. My take or interpretation of Dr. Beyan’s point of view does not infer any call for round table discussion with the defunct regime. It qualifies the level of preparedness or frame of mind required to disentangle ourselves from this conundrum. He is talking about breaking the cobweb in our “thinking” process. Extreme analogies used to provoke dynamic thinking should not be construed in absolute terms, but as spring board for our common aspirations. It is an open knowledge that the coward narcissist isayas would not sit in a round table.,

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Woldegabriel,

        “ Extreme analogies used to provoke dynamic thinking should not be construed in absolute terms”

        How did you come to say the above statement? Did in any way, am tried to construe the idea of Dr Beyan?

        “ “ Thinking that consists of robust strategies and tactics that can compel the regime in Eritrea to come to the table to talk.”

        How does the above statement does not infer a round table discussion, when in fact the kind of “strategies and tactics” he is talking will explicitly infer the coming to “the table talk”? That a plain straight forward English, that does not demand any interpretation. Don’t try to dramatize by over interpreting it, to fit to your spoken ad unspoken ideas that you might have in your thought process. Be candid.

        Regards

    • Beyan

      Greeting Gentlemen,
      Forgive me for such a belated reply. Allow me to hastily give my response to Aman’s important question as succinctly as it is possible since I am trying to also read the voluminous comments as you can see. Bringing a regime to a table needn’t necessarily be seen as literally having a dialogue with the man at the helm of political power in Eritrea or his minions as Woldegabriel Tesfamariam has succinctly put it. It means to be ready to make wills and deals behind the scene akin to what the TPLF and EPLF did in London at the cusp of winning the war. One needs to have a leverage so strong that the other side will have no choice but to find a way out, that’s the kind of coming to the table that I have in mind. A negotiation that will show the man the exit out of Eritrea. History is replete of these types of showing authoritarians the door out of countries that they have wreaked havoc in so the people can reassemble their lives without the menace being in their midst. So, if the movement of seemingly endless hues coalesce around one leader at the top and a handful of other masterminds who can help in the process, the struggle for change will have a better chance.

      • Selam Beyan,
        I hope you will excuse me for introducing. What i fail to understand is, if the opposition (the people) have the leverage to force the regime to come to the negotiation table, or if the regime is cornered so that it will be forced to succumb to the wishes of the opposition. Unfortunately, for the last three decades, IA had been sailing the calm waters of Eritrea, and he is continuing to do so.
        You might have heard of the so called, “the law of the 3.5%”, which if i remember well, it says that if 3.5% of the population revolt, by revolt meaning peaceful struggle, and make the country unrulable, the chances are almost always authoritarian regimes crumble. This is what happened in neighbouring Sudan, and there are many more examples. The good thing about this method of struggle is that it doesn’t end up in an other dictatorship, and most of the time a democratic government is the result.
        What i want to say is that the job of forcing the regime has not been done, and the feeling at last that it can’t help but abide by the will of the people is not yet there on the regime’s side. It doesn’t seem to feel this way for the time being, if i am not mistaken.
        Eplf and tplf were like-minded organizations, and unfortunately the opposition seems still divided, and i don’t know if it exists within the Eritrean society, or only in the diaspora.

        • Beyan

          merHaba Horizon,
          This is the kind of intrusion one can’t help but be pleased with. Please keep in intruding. You are one prolific debater. You reason, you provide compelling scenarios. The 3.5% rule, one would think wouldn’t that difficult to do. Unfortunately, in our case, the regime has been very effective in not making any uprising rise to that magical percentage because it unleashes its propaganda machination by polarizing the gullible public. That is very easy to do when it also has the merciless stick at home with which to quell any attempt at uprising as I mentioned in my article. Heck, I don’t think we even have that magical percentage in diaspora. And in diaspora the opposition needs to be more than 90 percentile if any dent is going to be made. Look how the momentum of the UN Human Rights report, at its peak garnered some 15,000 people in Geneva. That was the only time Eritreans came close to having unity in purpose. But, again, the regime prevailed at the end. That’s part of the reason I am trying my level best for us to rally after a leader, but that leader must have certain dispositions that can attract the imagination of the people. I see that potential in Mesfin Hagos. Of course, it remains to be seen if it ignites the resistance.

          Many thanks, Horizon for your input.

  • Brhan

    Thank you Dr. Beyan again,
    1. In this part you focused on the role of the media in brining change in Eritrea. In this comment I will use media and media outlets to mean the privately owned and to cover the online media, print, audio and video media.
    You have touched important points and particulary , the financial aspect of it, i.e., the expense of the satellite TV. And from what I have known is, this is the most critical issue not only for satellite TVs but also websites. The reach out as far as I see it between these media outlets and the public. It is vertical. There is no horizontal outreach , i.e. the relationship between the media outlets themselves, to work together and try to reach to a solution for many challenges , including the financial challenge.

    2. I believe you share my concern about the content of the media outlets. And here I am not saying that the outlets must have the same agenda, message and content. I have a strong believe that they have one goal : bring change in Eritrea. But the concern here is also, that the same trend that I mentioned in #1 the issue of the outreach being vertical and not horizontal, is seen when it comes about the messages being ghettoized. Lucky are the ones who are multilingual. But if you know only one language or two , this means that you are left behind from what is being said in the media outlets that communicate in the language that you do not know. When I ask an Arabic/Tigre speaker if they know Rumana Berhanu, Tesfay G/Ab, Dr. Russom Haile or When I as a Tigrinya speaker if they know Haji Jaber, Hashim Mahmoud, Yebat Faed, both , answer no. This is because the works of these great writers are not translated to many Eritrean languages. And here comes the role of translation. So, a media outlet has also to follow a vertical flow to reach out those who can’t understand its language of communication , instead of only horizotnal flow that is only transferred only to those who understand only its language of communication. In this regard I applaud the persons who made Mesin Hagos’s recent message presented in various languages.

    3. With all that have been said about, these shortcomings, that I hope , will be addressed one way or another way by their respected owners or administrators, these media outlets are doing great in giving free discussion which is part of freedom of speech, including , freedom of speech thirsty pro- government folks who for example, are mushrooming in this website because they hardly find that in the media outlet of the gov’t they support.

    Maa Salama

    • Beyan

      Selam Brhan,

      I appreciate your input. Your understanding of my intentions are on the right track.

  • Haile S.

    Selamat Beyan,

    You exude optimism. Thank you into delving to these series of forward looking articles that try at the end to address ways of knitting forces for change by our much awaited knitter.

    In the first part of your post you highlighted some of hindrances that tend to hack into out fundamental social binary compartments and those that dig into every division possible on our much needed cohesion.

    Now in the second part of your article, you went into collecting the raw materials, to make our own functional instrument of change, so to speak. You brought the palm leaves (ላኻ), their midrib (ድርቂ), knitting needle (መስፈ) all the fundamental raw materials at our disposal to make the flat-dish basketwork (ሰተታ) that can serve us all, and when necessary, we can use as a shield and a flying soccer to neutralize the pernicious threat.

    Our “palm leaves” and “their midribs” you talked about are dry, stiff and with tendency to pick when touched. They need to be wetted to make them soft and supple. A lot can be said about them, but they are good instruments if improved. Remains the knitter. Apparently we have one!

    Our rejuvenated knitter has been part of the regime, an adherent of the pompously “democratic” centralism that kept the war for independence possible. Will he be capable of transforming himself when we haven’t seen his comrades do in the last 30 years? Nothing is impossible, lets dream big! Dreaming big is reasonable. In your third part, you will be tackling the challenge he will be facing from every possible branches he touched starting from the (his) roots. He also will be questioned with whom he drinks coffee when he starts to knit. It is an enormous job. Good luck my friend!

    • Beyan

      Selam Haile,

      The way you weaved your note using lakha and mesfe reminded me of a quilt of Native American variety. You never cease to amaze me at so many languages you command, French being one of those languages speaks volumes in the vast interest you show, which ranges the gamut.

      • Haile S.

        ሰላማት በያን

        ክእለትን ምልክን ናትካ ቋንቋ ዘ-እንግልጣር
        ኣየርክቦን ተደሚሩ ናተይ ብ4ተ ምፍሕንጣር

  • Nitricc

    Hi all; i am listening to this guy i have never known existed, it was referred to me by a friend and this guy is on to something. His name Hamdan on horn of Africa TV and he is a veteran fighter with both organizations, ELF and EPLF. His narrating the origin of G-15 and G-13 and i am forced to revisit and research the whole episode.The point is Mesfin Hagos could be that is not seems to be. Remember when PIA arrested most of the G-15, he let Mesfin Hagos leave the country. Something is up???????? the whole this G-15 is something????