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The Eritrean Misery Cycle And The Way Out

Since 2018, when the People’s Front for Democracy and Justice (PFDJ) regime removed its face mask and its leaders revealed their true intentions and hidden agenda to undermine Eritrean sovereignty. Eritreans have consistently pursued efforts to protect their national sovereignty and attempted to block the destructive project adopted by the PFDJ regime because the entire project has become clear to everyone; sceptics and regime supporters alike.

However, I firmly believe that the on the ground practices of the regime, since 1991, were self-revealing for any observer. Its efforts aiming to undermine the national sovereignty were running afoot and continued to eliminate the dream of Eritreans to establish a sovereign and developed country – a country in which every Eritrean could enjoy freedom and a decent life.

Although, the convoys of martyrs and prisoners did not stop over the three decades due to resolute struggle of the resistance forces, but the goal of change is not yet fulfilled. No doubt that the victory is overlooked from the perspective of regime’s erosion from inside and its shaking, which has exposed it to political resistance on the ground.

The people of Eritrea are closely following the recent and past developments, particularly the regime’s efforts to force indigenous citizens to leave the country. They are also pushing public opinion towards issues debated and closed in 1940s for being impossible to be achieved, through the Agazian and Neo-Andenet (union party with Ethiopia) to confuse Eritrean and to keep them going on in circles. At the same time, the regime is keeping Eritreans ignorant about the recent developments regarding relations between Eritrea and Ethiopia of which the people in the two countries only know the acrobatic actions of the two leaders.

The PFDJ regime primarily depends for its existence on the Eritrean-Tigrayan security gangs, top leaders of Eritrean defense forces, and the Diaspora alliance of Eritreans and Tigrayans in Europe, America, and Australia (vast majority of them obtained asylum claiming Eritrean citizenship and pay 2% tax for the regime).

Along this come the unforgettable diplomatic supports of some sectarian institutions that aimed to whitewash the regime and justify its aggressive practices in front of Western societies.

In light of the regime’s actions underway, aiming to contain the rights of the Eritreans to freedom and achieve real change, keeping them far from knowing what is going on, it would be useful for the public opinion to know the way out of this thirty-year old dilemma. Therefore, I would like to share the ideas below with everyone working for the salvation of the Eritrean people from the cycle of misery, and with all peace lovers.

  1. There are persistent attempts by the various apparatuses of the regime to maintain the statuesque with patching and consensual processes within the same organizational, political, military, and security framework that created by Isaias.Accepting this would mean turning a blind eye on all crimes committed by the regime against the people of Eritrea, including forced displacement, demographic change, marginalization, repression, religious and political persecution, which all in all are destructive measures that must not be considered gains for any party. What is being prepared now is a non-national outlook based on the religious and nationalistic fanaticism witnessed over the last three decades, which at the end undermines Eritrean sovereignty.
  2. To ensure a smooth transition, there is an urgent need for establishing a transitional national government that comprises of all components of the Eritrean people, regardless of political, religious, ethnic and regional affiliations. Any move other than this is considered a continuation of the PFDJ sectarian system and its racist and systematic exclusion practices.
  3. Any change must commence with the release of all political prisoners and the taking of all necessary measures to reintegrate them socially and politically to play effective role in the intended political change, and achieve the goals they had sacrificed for.
  4. An independent national reconciliation commission must be formed to work towards achieving a comprehensive national reconciliation and reparation for victims of the regime and secure a smooth and peaceful transition of power in Eritrea. This will foil the intention of all traitors and those seeking to undermine the Eritrean national sovereignty and destroy Eritrea.
  5. There is a widespread belief among the Eritrean patriots that the PFDJ regime, since its first seed was planted in the Eritrean soil by Isaias Afwerki, has been working tirelessly to stir religious strife and conflicts between Christians and Muslims, and intra-faiths, adding to that the nationalities project (Beherat) which was adopted to break up the remaining bonds, social cohesion, and national unity of Eritreans. Therefore, there is an urgent need to stand united against the religious and national fanaticism, which has become a reality under the PFDJ regime, especially among the Eritrean youth, by foreigners who infiltrated among them in the diaspora.
  6. It will be difficult for the Eritrean people to enjoy security and stability without dismantling  the PFDJ party, liquidating its financial and commercial apparatus, its security and organizational system, and returning the property seized by the party to a legitimate government, and bring those responsible for the theft and plunder of public wealth in the name of the PFDJ party, to justice.
  7. Activating the constitution of 1997, with fundamental amendments, in line with the changes taking place, and in light of what has been done, and ongoing attempts to undermine Eritrean national sovereignty. The Eritrean constitution should be based on protecting national sovereignty, ensuring public freedoms, achieving justice for all, and legislation specific to all relations between the people of Eritrea.
  8. The Eritrean people should totally reject protection of lawless gangs and criminals accused of murder over the past three decades in the pretext of National Security involving the government. Protecting scoundrels and degenerates brought by Isaias to repress and humiliate Eritreans. It’s a serious offense and crime. No doubt, the so-called “National Security Agency” and its operatives lack basic sense of patriotism. Since its inception is has been protecting the authority of a single person and Agazian project with the aim of exterminating Eritreans and displacing citizens from their land—the treacherous apparatus must be dissolved, and its elements brought to justice.
  9. Returning Eritrean refugees from the camps in neighboring countries to settle wherever they want in their country and define the legal status and resolve the status of the remaining refugees
  10. Establishing good-neighborly relations with neighboring and world countries based on mutual respect. Also, all the restrictions that were imposed by the regime for nearly three decades, limiting the free movement of the citizens inside and outside the country must be lifted, as freedom of movement is a human right guaranteed by universal law that must be respected.

On this occasion, I would like to remind the people of Eritrea in general, that the martyrs of the national resistance at home, in particular the Forto uprising, the movement of Freedom Now, the popular resistance in Eastern Eritrea, and all political prisoners opposed the repressive regime must be freed immediately. Eritreans must defend the dignity of their martyrs by rejecting the defamation of their images. The attempts by the Agazian and Neo-Andnet groupies who are trying to misrepresent them in front of the Eritrean public is an insult to our values and people for generations and must be confronted.

Eritreans must make sure Isaias does not see his dream come true by uniting their ranks on their own land and by practicing their national rights. His plans to destroy the or to deprive them of their right to live in peace, must be challenged.

Finally, I urge all Eritreans including the national forces to stand firmly united behind a single national project and pursue a united vision with a clear roadmap to get out of the dark tunnel in which we have been put by the false patriotism of the PFDJ leader and its affiliates. We have to struggle for “freedom now, not tomorrow.”

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  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ጽቡቕ ሰሉስ ካብ ለምለም በይ ኤርያ!

    መን ፈጣሪኻ?
    ስላሴ
    መን ጸላኢኻ?
    ሃይለ ስላሴ

    መን ኔሩ ኣባይካ?
    ደርጊ
    መን ፈታዊኻ?
    ሕጊ

    መን ‘ዩ ናይ ሕጂ ጸላኢ?
    ህግደፍ
    ናይ መን ሕመቕ ‘ዩ?
    ናይ ነብሲ ወከፍ
    ኡስ ኢልና ርኢናዮ
    ንሱ ድማ ኣብ ርእስና ኮፍ
    ከምዛ ዝብለኩም!

    መን ሃሰይትኻ?
    ንሕና ንሱ
    ካልእከ ኣለውዶ?
    እወ ‘ለው ካብቶም ‘ንስታት ዝገዱ

    ‘ንታይ ትብል?
    እወ!
    ከምዝቃለሱ ተመሲሎም
    ንዝቃለሱ ከውድቑ
    ፉል-ታይም ዝሰርሑ
    ይመስሎም ዝጎርሑ
    ኣይትረደኦምን ግን
    ከምዝተፈድሑ
    ባቃ!

  • Samuel

    Selam All,
    Today, PMAA while addressing the parliament he said the following in front of the parliament floor —:
    “አሁን ባለው ሁኔታ ኢትዮጵያን መምራት አንድ ሚሊዮን ጉንዳን (ant) ተሸክሞ መሄድ ነው እንጂ ትርፍ አይደለም“ just his own quote from parliament floor today. Where are we heading? As a leader he should be preaching peace and stability, however he seems to be unhappy to lead the country. If he isn’t capable to handle the challenge he should resign sooner than later. Ethiopia is a complex and multi interest country, it needs sober and well thought solutions, not simple words like “Medemer and prosperity”.

    Thanks,

    • Paulos

      Samuel,

      The Ant analogy could as well be a complement for hard work and division of labour are said to have been emulated by humans of the Ants. The guy is either a goof or unstable.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ዶተረ
        How about unfit?

        • Paulos

          ኢንጂኔረ,

          I agree that too. Thing is it is hard to take him serious.

          Shifting….ዝገርመካ ሎሚ ማዓልቲ ሰነ ሳላሳ እዩ፣ ትዝክሮ ተኾንካ ከምዛ ሎሚ ማዓልቲ ኢና ባጀላ ንቕበል ኔርና፣ ገሊኣ “ኣልፈዋል” ገሊኣ ከምዝኸማይ ካኣ “ወድቀዋል” ትባሃል ኔራ።

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረ
            It has been long time since I hear ኣልፈዋል/ወድቀዋል 🙂
            ወድቀዋልሲ ኣብ ማትሪክ ጥራይ ‘የ ተላልየያ። ደሓን ኣይትእቶ ናብ ገዛይ ድቕድቕ ኣይትብልን? ግን ከኣ ኣበራቢራትኒ።

        • Samuel

          Selam MM,
          ቀኑ የጉንዳኖች ነውና ከትግራይ ፕረስ የተወሰደ ግጥም ላካፍላቹ።
          ኣዝማሪ ተቀበል:-

          ዳግማዊ ሙሴ ኣሉህ ባህር ኣሻጋሪ
          ምላስህ ማር ቅቤ ኣገር ኣሸባሪ
          7ተኛው ንጉስ ዶ/ር ኣጭበርባሪ
          እንደምነህ ኣብይ የጉንዳኖች መሪ

          Thanks,

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ይበል! ይበል ግጥሚ
            ኣቶ ሳሚ

            ኣቢ: መራሒ ጻጸ
            ኣፉ መዓር ግብሩ መላጸ
            ኣብ ክንዲ ሃገር: ናቱ ጥቕሚ ካብ መረጸ
            ኣስተውዕልሉ ሃገር ከይዓመጸ
            ህዝቢ ከይጓዕጸጸ

            እለይዎ ብኣግኡ ከይሳዕረረ
            ሃገርኩም ከይ ኣሕረረ

            ንዓና ከይትመስሉ
            ‘ንታይ ገበርኩም
            ካባና ተማሃሩ
            ዓይንኹም ቋሕ! ኣብሉ

          • Abi

            Samiti
            አብይ ስለጉንዳን ቢናገር ምን አሳሰበህ?
            ስለ ወያኔ ምስጦች መቼ ተናገረ ::

          • Selam Abi,
            ” አንድ ሚሊዮን ጉንዳን” – one million problems. It was meant for those who undermine ethiopian unity and stability and are creating chaos to ascend to power. Power is not any more as profitable as it used to be in tplf-ethiopia of corruption, nepotism and human rights abuse.
            Ethiopia and ethiopians have changed. It is only the anti-ethiopian camp that has not changed. Exploiting ethiopia for the second time is a dream that will never come true.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            The Tplf thugs are their operatives ( ምስጦች) are doing everything to take us back to the era where they milked the country dry.
            It will never happen again!

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            As of now most Abiy’s supporters are those that are Derg remnants who admire Menelik, HS and Derg regimes dearly. Tell me if there are any Nation Nationalities who support PMAA? Can you name one? Those that are pro ethnic federalism are against Abiy admin, as simple as that. They say “The more you know about the past, the better prepared you are for the future”. Is it a coincidence that most supporters of Abiy are the sympathizers of Menelik, HS and Derg? Why is that?

            History is a big lesson, here is what’s happening inside his PP power competitors —
            • Abiy sidelined his close friend Lemma Megersa, it will explode sometime soon.
            • Abiy arrested his close friends and prominent Oromo politicians like Jawar, Bekele Gerba and OMN journalists. It will explode sometime soon.
            • The killing of prominent Oromo singer Hachalu
            Have you noticed that the killing has helped Abiy government to arrest his political opponents? What does it tell you?
            • More than 240 Ethiopian citizens has been killed by PP special forces, this number is just confirmed by government, but I have heard that it could be twice or three times of that.
            • The last few days a big crack has created inside PP politicians, most of his high officials are not happy the direction of the PP government going except Derg remnants inside PP and around PP.

            Does this look Abiy has the majority of Ethiopians support? I will leave that for you.

            Thanks,

          • Selam samuel,
            What are nations and nationalities for you? After all they are individuals. They are also members of the PP in somali state, afar, gambela, gmuz, oromia, amhara states and even in tigray. Does tplf have an office outside tigray?
            Ethnic federalists that create problems are the oromo ultra nationalists whose supporters are killing non-oromos in the state. Others do not have problems and they are carrying out their businesses. The aim of the so-called federalists is central power domination and not because the ethnic federation and the constitution are in danger at least at this stage. What the ethiopian people will decide in the future is a different matter. Let them wait until that time comes. They can’t because central power is their main issue, or independent tigray and oromia.
            Abiy has put in prison the untouchables, jawar and bekele g. and some others, who move around guarded with kalashnikov, walkies talkies and hand grenades, and he has put behind bars more than 3000 suspects for horrendous crimes in oromia. Does that make Abiy weak?
            Lemma Megerssa was said to have been apprehended, the water in addis has been poisoned, people shouldn’t go to work or open their businesses, etc, were fake news dispersed by the enemies of the country. No one heeded their calls and life is gradually returning to normality. Does that show distrust in the Abiy government?
            Don’t mix the reality with your wishes.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            You asked “What are nations and nationalities for you? After all they are individuals. ”

            Nation Nationalities are both individuals, groups and the territories they have long inhabited by them as declared in the constitution.

            Read the preamble, those are the owners and citizens of Ethiopia —

            We, the Nations, Nationalities and Peoples of Ethiopia:
            Strongly committed, in full and free exercise of our right to self-determination, to building a political community founded on the rule of law and capable of ensuring a lasting peace, guaranteeing a democratic order, and advancing our economic and social development;

            You said —

            What the ethiopian people will decide in the future is a different matter. Let them wait until that time comes.

            You are out of touch with reality, Kellyanne Conway’s alternative fact seems to be fitting term for your judgment.

            • Ask the people of Sidama if they are unhappy because they have their own state, who made that to happen? The constitution.
            • Ask the people of Afar if they are unhappy because they have their own state, who made that to happen? The constitution.
            • Ask the people of Somalia if they are unhappy because they have their own state, who made that to happen? The constitution.

            The list goes on, it is a fact on the ground, you can’t hide that. Can you? Are you going to reverse that? How? I am sure the response is “wait until that time comes.”

            Thanks,

          • Selam samuel,
            Let’s leave repeating things. What do you think of the news coming out of the PM’s office?
            “The tplf looters who are trading in young tigrayans and the people of tigray in general are the organizers of the attempt to destabilize the country, as was seen over the last few days. Therefore, the people of tigray should tell these looters that enough is enough. The government has reached the limits of its patience”. It is a paraphrased translation. You can listen to the video yourself. It is in the news.
            Don’t you think that tplf is not going to get a free ride anymore, and the noose may tighten?

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            The PM can say whatever he wants, it doesn’t mean anything anymore. He is Derg 2.0, do you remember your leader quote ኮ/ል መንግሥቱ “ሁሉም ነገር ወደ ጦር ግንባር”.

            Thanks,

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Horizon:
            A bit late but late better than never!

          • Sultan M.G.

            Horizon;
            Dr AAA should address both tge nation and the parliament in a firm of the State Of the Union focusing on;’

            -That Federalism is to stay here but he is trying to shape it up and improve it in the best way it serves the people and the nation ( This is a MUST so that his opponents’ claim propaganda that he is against the Constitution and the Federal System !
            He has to slow down on the Meddeber saga!
            -Exposing the Terrorists and the Destabilizers OPENLY while focusing on a Genuine National Reconciliation

            -To unveil an ambitious Economic. After plan focusing on job creation
            My naive opinion to express my best wish to my second home, Ethiopia!

          • Selam Sultan,

            Thanks a lot, You are right.
            It is not that they are missing the point that Ethiopia can never be anything else but a federation of one sort or another. The point today is how to create a federation of equal rights for every Ethiopian wherever they may find themselves in Ethiopia, and whatever language they may speak. There can’t be a federation where Oromo extremists like jawar and bekele g. can send their savages to commit horrendous crimes and destroy properties.
            Business people, Ethiopians and foreigners alike, are leaving oromia. These oromo politicians unleashed the barbarians among the respected oromo people, and ethiopia has become the laughing stalk of the world. They are blind to the utter poverty of the people and they are ready to destroy the little they have for the sake of politics. This is what they succeeded, destroying everything and killing innocent people. It is the result of their fake ethnic federation, the killing minefields.
            You are right, he should address the nation. Those who want to hear him will hear him. The anti-ethiopian camp will not be impressed, because they have a sinister plan for this poor country.
            The aim was to appease the power mongers, but the pm didn’t know that that was impossible, because they were hell bent to ascend power using any means available, especially the illegal way. Tplf functions more or less outside the federation, jawar and his group have become above the law, and some young oromos have turned themselves into jawar’s hit-squad. Jawar caused the death of more than 80 people some months ago, now more than 200 innocent people have died. He reached the point where he can steal a corpse from its family and use it for his political purposes. Just imagine what this sick person could do if he ascends power.
            Who will invest in ethiopia, especially in oromia, when businesses are destroyed and their owners killed? This is not the first time. Jawar and his group are anti-investment. Maybe he wants to create a theocratic oromia, where investments are abhorred. I don’t know.
            The pm will have an uphill battle to fight in order to convince investors, foreigners and locals as well. The internal enemies of ethiopia are destroying the nation for the sake of power, which if it falls in to their hands, it will take ethiopia back to dictatorship and authoritarianism. They are the enemies of the nation and the people.

          • Paulos

            Selam Samuel,

            The Weyanes from the get go knew what Abiy was up to and at that time everything at their own disposal could have wrecked havoc but decided to pull back to Tigrai and defeat Abiy politically instead. And here we are two years after the fact Abiy is exposed for what he truly is.

            Tigrai once a provincial backwater with meager natural resources which was also abandoned by previous Ethiopian rulers is set to become a regional power house not only that her people are committed and determined but Tigrai is founded on ideas and ideals. And history attests that including this great adoptive country of ours the US was founded on ideals and that is precisely the reason that it is strong.

            Abiy on the other hand is morphing a theological dogma into a political credo when he tried to sell his farce Prosperity when the backbone of the nation is the peasant not the business class and intelligencia he is trying to appeal to. The Jury is back when the coming election in Tigrai is the end of Abiy precisely because election is one of the bedrock where nations are founded on.

          • Samuel

            Selam Paulos,
            When you have a country like Ethiopia with 80% of the population rural and traditional agriculture based economy, you can’t afford to move away from peasant based economy to urban based economy. Abiy’s social base is urban centered (it’s almost gone now), however EPRDF’s social base is rural based, that’s why EPRDF has been arguing for years that peasant-based or agriculture lead economy is must until the country become 50% urban and middle income majority.

            EPRDF supporters are rural and little towns based, you don’t see them in the streets of Addis Ababa, Bahrdar, Awassa, Dire Dawa, etc carrying banners. You can only see them at the ballot box. That’s why Abiy postponed the election. If you remember in 2005, EPRDF has lost in most of urban votes, but it has won greatly rural votes (80% of the population).

            The current political making is really a great opportunity for Tigray to use it to be political power house of the region, TPLF shouldn’t have to settle to share power at the center. If they did that it will end their social base and also it will weaken Tigray just like the last 27 years, thus they have to secure the independence of Nation and Nationalities.

            Tigray has well organized, disciplined and principled society, enough natural resource, well experienced individuals at national and international level, well experienced special force, thus TPLF should use that carefully.
            The election in Tigray will give great leverage to build institutions and international recognition. There will be challenges here and there but I see better future in general.

            Thanks,

          • Sultan M.G.

            Sam:
            List the other facts as well

  • Nitricc

    THE EIGHT STAGES OFGENOCIDE
    By Dr. Gregory H. Stanton, President, Genocide Watch.
    *Classification!
    *Symbolization!
    *Dehumanization!
    *Organization!
    *Polarization!
    *Preparation!
    *Extermination!
    *Denial!

    Ethiopia checks out every box. God forbid. Genocide is the very goal of the Evil TPLF plan for Ethiopia. What the filthy and illiterate TPLF doesn’t know is that once Genocide starts, there is no telling where it stops. It will wipe out including Tigray but TPLF are too stupid to understand this very fact. To those who are supporting, encouraging and defending TPLF thugs, you will be responsible when millions of Ethiopians die through TPLF instigated Genocide. Yep, get ready.

    • Sultan M.G.

      Gen :
      More is to come!
      Don’t get surprised.
      Rumors have it that Dr AAA gathered enough Intelligence as of few days ago!

    • Girma

      Selam Nitricc,

      It seems that you can’t wait until it finally starts off. Why do you think Ethiopians should go to war for mutual annihilation ?
      Our constitution guarantees that we can diverge peacefully if we can’t or don’t want to live together. As simple as that.

      የፍየሉ ቆለጥ ሲወዛወዝ አይታ አሁን አሁን ይወድቅልኛል ብላ ስትከተል የዋለችውን ቀበሮ መሰልከኝ ።

      • Dongolo

        Selam Girma. LOL. Funny now U wish to talk about constitutional guarantees. LOL no need before yeah brobby? With pockets full….now U can complain..Abiy should quickly give power to Jawar, he will get elected anyways, so he can quickly cap the TPLF and return all stolen property and land..

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ዲክታተር ናይ ዓደይ
    ምንጪ ናይ ሕማመይ

    ዲክታተር ኣብ ጎረቤት
    ሓሳድ ዕርክነት
    ጸንቃቒ ምሕረት
    መሪሕ ናይ ዕርበት

    ግመ ተጎልቢቡ
    ሐሕማቑ ኣንቢቡ
    ኣብ ባይታ-ጥፍኣት ዓሊቡ
    ኣሕረሮም ነቶም ዝዓንበቡ
    ብዘይ ንቡር ሓሶት ኣሳቢቡ
    ሸዊት ዕድሚኦም ከይጸገቡ
    የድሕኖም ምስቲ ናትና
    ዲያብሎስ ዝለገቡ

    ናትና ጸገም ሪኦም ዘይለበሙ
    ከምዛ ናትና ብገርሆም ተለከሙ
    ኣብ ሕልኽላኽ ዓለባ-ጥፍኣት ተሸመሙ
    ክርደኦም ‘ዩ ምስ ተቖርመሙ
    29ተን ዓመታትን ንቕድሚት
    50 ዓመታት ንድሕሪት ምስ ስጎሙ
    ብናትና ሕማም ተለከሙ

    ጽጋብ ትወልዳ ለእኪቲ! ኢሉ ግእዝ ዝጸገበ

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I see PIA is running around to the save the day for East Africa in general for Ethiopia in particular. I know it is a thankless job from Ethiopians or anyone but as person of principals and the right thing to do, once again he is out to save Ethiopia from external enemies and within who are guiding the external enemies to attack and destroy the very country they belong to. PIA will solve the current impasse with Sudan, Ethiopia and Egypt. Soon, there will be what will be known the Asmara agreement with concerned countries attending. That is the good news. You know why? PIA knows the consequences of dishonest mediation, that is why.
    Now let see what is going on in Ethiopia. True, the current Ethiopians leaders are responsible for all this damages, internal chaos and mayhem; what has happened on the past and what is happening right now. PMAA wasted golden opportunity lecturing about peace, love, exclusiveness, and forgiveness for people who have no idea what that means, no clue what forgiveness means, PMMA was lecturing those words to the collection of day-light Hyena. Accordingly, his message of forgiveness and unity was understood as that to weakness and fearfulness. Now, after what was transpired in last few days, the government of Ethiopia seems to flex its muscles, infect, the government found some courage to arrested the most notorious criminal and terrorist Jawar. By arresting Jawar, the government has grabbed the tiger by its tail and have no choice but to keep that tail tightly till the tiger dies off. The government has to make sure Jawar will die in prison. The government can charge Jawar with 86 lives of manslaughter and with additional 2nd degree murder of active police officer in which by the time Jawar serves those years, he is dead for good. One thing the government must do right now is, prolong activating the internet service to Ethiopia. If you let the internet on, you are risking for fresh unrest and destruction because once you activate the internet, people will see the magnitude of the atrocity and horrifying death of the innocent people that is taken in smart-phone camera and pictures. So, hold on activating the internet service. Internet is not food, water or medicine. Don’t cave-in to the western’s criticism about shutting down the internet, it is the right thing to do. In addition, you need to cut-out any internet service to dark Killil, Tigray. If PMAA and his government have any testicles, the cut Tigray’s budget. Shutdown all Tigray’s media and if you have to, take surgical take-down on the old and corrupted TPLF thugs. The choice is simple; save the nation of 100 million people over 6% inferior complexity laden uncivilized creatures. PMAA do what you need to do, if not, next time around is you, The victim.

    • Nitricc

      Oh well, i didn’t expect that soon. I mean PMAA means business. Dmtshi weyane and Tig-Tv shut down by the government of Ethiopia. I could have presented you the BBC link but you know about the toothless and worthless rule.

      • Sultan M.G.

        Gen:
        As I told u and the audience here, u r SPOT ON!
        It sounds like Dr AAA received your Certified Letter of Recommendations on time!
        Yes, shut down the reckless social media and the toxic internet even if the mercenary Amnesty Intl and human rights watch junkies bark nonstop!

        • Nitricc

          Hey MG; I think we are witnessing the end of TPLF. TPLF was so sure the fall of PMAA and its government; TPLF invited Eritrean oppositions to form front in hasty. That is the exact reason all the old and retired Eritreans running to Mekelle. I am no hater because they get their pensions but i am sad they trash their reputations and their place in Eritrean history. Now, as we speak all military unites that were stationed in the border between Ethiopia and Eritreans are spreading all over Tigray’s towns and villages. I have no idea what that means but sooner or latter that will be a problem. I have no doubt TPLF will go down but the question is that taking the people of Tigray with them. Sadly that seems the way.

        • Selam Sultan M.G.,

          Could this be a turning point for Ethiopia? Could it be that at last the government will say enough means enough to tplf and oromo ultra nationalists, and patience is not fear nor naivety? The tug of war between pro reform and anti reform, the one who are trying to save Ethiopia and the other side that is hell bent to sacrifice her has reached the stage where it demands a solution. Can jawar, bekele g, dawud ibsa with his olf-shene continue to do whatever they like in oromia?
          The fact that the federal government has not shown dominance and hegemonic power for the sake of democracy, peace and stability, has given some regional governments (tplf) and some individuals the audacity to become above the law. They have made peace, stability and security impossible in ethiopia. This is a good chance and the right time for the government to show that nobody is above the law and democracy doesn’t mean anarchy.
          Young brainless savages and barbarians roam the streets of cities, towns and villages killing innocent men, women and children in a barbaric and monstrous way, as we saw happening in oromia. Politicians like jawar, bekele g, dawud ibsa and others easily find useful idiots who do their dirty jobs, i.e. killing innocent people, simply because they speak a different language. How is it possible to civilize such uncivilized barbarians?
          The rotten apples are the ones who are destroying ethiopia. The poor artist understood that jawar used him for his sinister plan and he begged his channel not to transmit his last conversation with the journalist. Nevertheless, they refused. Worse, Achallu was made a sacrificial lamb for sinister political interest. There seems to be a pattern and no one is spared.
          Now, it seems that ethiopians have come to understand the enemy within, mainly tplf and oromo ultranationalists and their strike forces, and ethiopians are said to have started forming community defense forces, so that they will not be sitting ducks any more. I hope it succeeds, because they can’t trust the regional police force.
          Appeasing with these savages is condemning the country and its people, because they will not stop short of causing a genocide and the disintegration of ethiopia. The government should know that it cannot charm these poisonous snakes that are hell bent to kill ethiopia.

          • Hashela

            Hello Horizon

            One hopes that the prime minister has the trust and support of the army. The disproportionately high presence of high and mid level officers of Tigrayan origin in the federal armed forces presents a source of uncertainty concerning the army’s locality to the prime minister.

          • Selam Hashela,

            I think that major changes have taken place in the military, and i see no problem there. The problem seems to be from the side of the local police force, who stand indifferent as innocent people are killed and when asked to intervene, unashamedly they say that they have not been ordered.
            How can one explain that? They are part of the conspiracy. Of course, not all of them. They don’t seem to be few in number, nevertheless. It is outrageous. They are paid salaries by the ethiopian taxpayer and yet not only that they do not protect citizens, but they are facilitating the killings and destruction of properties by standing indifferent, according to some reports. They should all be fired and a new police force should replace them. They may be forced to respect their salary and their responsibility.

          • Hashela

            Selam Horizon

            It is a disturbing peculiarity of current Ethiopia that the states (Killil) have army-like units. These are time bombs. I hope the prime minister replaces them with National Guards stationed in very states for the purpose of prompt mobilization, should their help be needed

          • Selam Hashela,
            Even when it ruled ethiopia, tplf was working for the so-called greater tigray and tigray-tigrini, despite what it said. It was their northern star that led them the way. That was the reason they remained a liberation front even though they ruled ethiopia. They formed regional armies so that they could create a strong tigrayan army that was armed to the teeth with ethiopian taxpayers money. Their bravado lies there. They say they have a strong army. They were diverting arms from the ethiopian military to their regional army, and tplf was looting the country to build its dreamland.
            United Ethiopia was and still remains their number one problem. Even the name ethiopia drives them nuts. I don’t know how far their hatred may go, especially today when the country is targeted by a foreign enemy.
            As you have noticed, even state police is getting out of control in the US, let alone armed military grade regional forces as we have in ethiopia. The ills tplf left behind are innumerable.

          • Teodros Alem

            horizon
            again I didn’t read ur comments except the first line, even addis police side with the people of addis ababa at 1997 protest for two reasons, 1, the protesters r their neighbors, friends and relatives so they sympathize with the protesters, 2, they even afraid for thier own future life, outside of thier police work , police live with the people, they have thier own social life.
            The problem is ur kind of idois , u don’t even know the problem is ethnic nationalism and u want to solve it by bagging as if u will give up ur own nationalism same way.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hashela,
            Your intelligence is above not questionable. That is where I start from. Now, kindly compare the two points below:
            1- you implied that Tigrayan officers should be purged from the Ethiopian army.
            2-some extremists are blaming Eritreans in Addis for being PFDJ operatives and accuse them for the violence and call for arresting Eritrean refugees.

            I think you agree both points carry equal weight. You cannot agree with one and disagree with the other, rationally speaking. Would you like to be associated with any step taken on both?

            NB: you can have any position on the TPLF it the PFDJ, please do not wrap parties together with citizens. That is stereotyping and both are blanket accusations they are unbecoming of an intellectual.

          • Hashela

            Selam Saleh

            My point was the disproportionate presence of the said officers. I did not advocate for purging. Don’t put in my mouth things I haven’t said.

            All the links and association you made above is based on false assumptions.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            As long as you do not believe in blanket accusation, I have no problem. Case closed

          • Simon Kaleab

            Hashela,

            You are more daft than I thought.

            Your idea of proportional representation will end up with a mediocre carbon copy Derg army.

            Were you a Derg cadre by any chance?

          • Nitricc

            You are more daft than I thought.

            Simon; the cartoon character and TPLF thug; are you calling Hashela stupid? You must missed your medication for your bipolarity. lately, I see you running and kissing some filthy TPLF thugs. Aren’t you a little better than that? never mind, since your masters are losing, I got you.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitricc,

            Aka Tweedledee, the brain dead parrot.

            Lately, you have been singing non-stop, parrot style, to celebrate your idol Isaias’ expedition to Ethiopia to fish in troubled waters. Sooner or later, the Ethiopians will find out about his true mission.

            You are more daft than Hashela, but he is more creepy than you.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Simon, the original cartoon character; take your medication and we will continue this conversation. While your medication goes through mechanisms of action, did you hear that your master, Getachew Reda walked all the way to use internet? That will give you activation energy for the routs of your medicine. Where exactly are you from Tigray? You sound more like Adi-grat to me.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitricc,

            Aka Tweedledee, the brain dead parrot.

            How is your English lesson going?

            You remind me of a British sitcom, some 20 years ago, called ‘The Royle Family’ [not Royal]. It was about a working class family in Manchester whose life was fixated around the TV and the kitchen sink. In your case ERI-TV.

            They were: Royle Sr. and his wife, daughter, Royle Jr. and his fiance. It was a hilarious show.

          • David Samson

            Selam Simon,
            Was the main actor a man with a bushy bird? He was an ex-member of BNP, then he did a U-turn and joined the far-left.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam David,

            Yes, it was Ricky Tomlinson.

          • Nitricc

            Simon, the original daffy. English? what is that? that is old school you bum. The world has change an old man. today the world is mathematics, physics, chemistry and research and development yet you are stuck on stinking English? don’t you worry I have multiple secretaries who know English better than you. English? what a stupid individual. Go get your medication.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitricc,

            Aka Tweedledee, the brain dead parrot.

            How is your English lesson going?

            Multiple secretaries at the Eritrean embassy? Big deal! General Wuchu used to have more than you.

            In the first 2 subjects you listed, I will trounce you, your relatives and your creepy buddy Hashela combined.

          • Sultan M.G.

            SGJ:
            I wish you avoided this comment of yours for obvious reasons!

            I would have left that comment to the Ethiopians/ Tigreyans .
            Your response might sound or could be interpreted by some as if you were supporting the TPLF Officers and their destabilizing efforts!
            Plus, it sounds as if you supported the overwhelming control of the Ethiopian Army, Intelligence, Security and Economy by the TPLF!
            My naive opinion!

          • Lebam

            Selam Sultan,

            As soon as someone mentions Tigray, and don’t curse them, both you and Nitricc thinks the person supports TPLF. It is ridiculous, to say the least.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Lebam,
            You are indeed Lebam!

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Lebam:
            Lebam seb would not put it the way you did it!

          • Lebam

            Selam Sultan,

            There is no other way to put it. You guys are repeatedly demonising the entire Tigray population, both directly and indirectly.

          • Sultan M.G.

            “ Ayte Lebbam”!
            We,as Eritreans as a people and as a Nation/ Eritrea, NEVER demonized the Tigrai people but legitimately criticized and accused the TPLF for its destructive and destabilizing efforts against Eritrea and Eritreans, a fact the TPLF and its supporters declared publicly !
            It’s historically consistent and persistent efforts against Eritra and Eritreans since zemene innini… the 1976 Abay Tigrai Manifesto, it’s destructive role in wiping out the ELF as a tactical measure for its future agenda
            -The post independence provocations including harassing Eritreans at the border, creating a new Abay Tigrai msp by incorporating a big chunk of Eritrean territories , unilaterally invading Adi Murug,sabotaging our new currency to the extent of making us lose $2 billion, maximizing its provocation by killing our INNOCENT border Patrol Officers trying calm down the tension
            -Its hectic and unilateral declaration of war on Eritrea and Eritreans through its parliament … rather than giving peace a chance
            -Its ongoing obstructionist approach and agenda against the Peace Process and its hegemony of invading Eritrea and displacing close to a million Eritreans besides deporting close to a 100K Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin
            -The devastating policies on Eritrean after the failed war of invasion of Eritrea and despite the ceasefire and peace agreement were in place fully backed by its masters
            -Their recent history of doing their best to achieve the above using Ethiopians as cannon fodders besides using every bit of Ethiopian Resources and fully supported by its western Masters and sponsors/Supporters!

            -After miserably FAILING to capture Aseb and to reverse Eritrean Independence, it used and applied every possible effort to sabotage and sanction Eritrea economically, politically, diplomatically and militarily fully backed up by its supporters and sponsors !

            -Its destructive policy of isolation, containment and no war no peace pocked to choke up Eritra and Eritreans to make them die a slow death in the very own words.
            -As if that was not enough, setting up filthy Tigrai camps and dry up Eritrea from its productive resources by alluring and giving Eritreans a false promise and hope to relocate them to the promised land with full collaboration and sponsorship with its masters in the west including the UN

            -Worse,abusing and stealing the precious Eri ID so as to relocate its own citizens to the dejected Western Countries in the name of Eritrean Refugees

            -By continually doing its best to divide Eritreans based on region, religion and tribe based politics so as to easily destroy the Sacred and Steel hard Eritrean Unity and thereby take over Eritrea in the very true words of its own
            -By sponsoring the Terrorist and secessionist movements and agenda .

            -The ongoing and nonstop toxic and divisive propaganda
            -Its renewed public declaration to wipe out Eritrea as a nation by taking over Eritrea … as we speak

          • Paulos

            Sultan,

            You are still falling for all that ህዝባዊ መኸተ ሃጠው ቀጠው and in the end you accuse PFDJ to pretend as if you’re not a real deal one [ህግደፍ]. You’re funny dude.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Paulos,

            If you see a Hope-less case, the warning signs are: Spread Betting.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Doc:
            Beyond proud for calling the spade , a spade and stating the facts.
            The topic is about the destructive role of the TPLF and its supporters, not about the PFDJ!
            FYI, unless you have a SELECTIVE DEMENTIA, I stated twice as big kid as that of the TPLF Crimes about the PFDJ and its hegemonic and chaotic pool I Irs and crimes against Humanity!
            I ENDORSED the COIE besides (giving my 20-page Testimony)minus its politically motivated approaches and being sponsored by anti-Eritrea groups!
            If the question is if I support the PFDJ vs the TPLF sponsored Mercenary Pseudo-Eritrean Opposition and anything TPLF,I proudly SUPPORT the PFDJ when it has dealt with/in DEFENDING ERITREA and its National Security Interest!
            If there was no PFDJ govt during 1998-2018, where do you think Eritrea would be by now?
            No Eritrea but Tigrai Abay, thanks to the TPLF sponsored Pseudo-Eritrean Mercenary opposition groups and figures , who have sworn to execute the WEYANE AGENDA against Eritrea and Eritreans !

            The PFDJ, wether we Ike it or not,is the de facto govt of Eritrea but a faulty govt of Eritrea like other third world criminal dictators including like Al Al Beshir and Col Menghistu!

          • Paulos

            Sultan,

            Again you’re talking ሃጠው ቀጠው!

          • Lebam

            Selam Sultan,

            I read and heard about what you’re saying. We can also clearly see the Agazians intentions. The evil they display is surreal.

            I’m simply defending the regular Tigrayan Joe and Jane.

          • Desbele

            Sultan
            “….. setting up filthy Tigrai camps to dry up Eritrea from its productive resources by alluring and giving Eritreans a false promise and hope to relocate them to the promised land
            Deductions from your statement
            -Life in Eritrea must be so miserable and hopeless for people to go to ‘filthy’ camps in Tigray in hundreds of thousands. Who is responsible for the misery and hopelessness in Eritrea?
            Remember, When You Point a Finger at Someone, There Are Three More Pointing Back at You” . Stop barking at the wrong tree and deal with the dictator!

          • Sultan M.G.

            Desbele:
            I quoted verbatim the crooked PMMM.
            The reason the TPLF opened the door to our refugees is not to help them but to empty Eritrea in the very true words of TPLF and its Leadership!
            So blame your “ heroes in Tigrai”!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Sultan M.G,

            I thought you were somewhat of a reasonable Awatista. Then you come up with a statement like this.

            When desperate people run towards your boarder being chased, dodging bullets,……you let them in and give them shelter you are considered bad and evil.

            If you stop these people from coming in, return them if they do or even shoot them, that is considered good, neighborly and helpful.

            Does it really make sense to you? Are we all going insane.

            Oh, I forgot, of course people sitting in their virtual ivory tower and pontificate about the end result of the geopolitical politics come up with all sorts of absurd arguments.

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Mr. KIM; the surprise is on you. I know you have this little heart for the Evil TPLF but come-on; you are well informed to know this very fact. Once the Ethio-Eritrea war was over, your visionary leader, the dead midget, Melles come up with a strategy for Eritrea on post war. The plan was simple! He said, “we no longer fire a single bullet to bring down Eritrea, rather, we are going to build a refugee comp in ever bordering area with Eritrea, then watch every young and able body of Eritrea will fill the camps and we build more till no single young and able body leaves Eritrea”
            I have no problem that you are pro TPLF thugs but not at the expense of the truth. Every misery of Eritrea came directly from the evil TPLF and if you guys don’t stand to them, then, the end of Ethiopia is near. Their are too revenge driven and stupid gangs. good luck with them.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            Since we are in a la la land. Why don’t you build a refugee camp on the Eritrean side and watch every Tigrian able bodied soul fill the camps. Let us compete that way.

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey Kim; no they know PIA and instead the Tigray youth is in Yemen, Saudi and Libya. Trust me, if PIA to build a refugee comp, no Tigriyan will stay in Tigray, young, old, women, men, you name it there will be in Eritrea. Why do you think PIA wanted one strong Ethiopia? he knows when the s…t hits the fan in Ethiopia , Eritrea will be submerged by Ethiopians refugee, to the point of the Eritrean distraction. The good news is, PIA and PMAA have no choice but to surgically remove the cancer of the east Africa, TPLF animals. I am happy those to see those animals had to walk to Sudan to use internet. How low can they go?

          • Samuel

            Selam Kim Hanna,
            I don’t think a single cell brain can have that level of sophistication, a single cell brain is like a binary memory, it works as ON or OFF state at a time, thus he is on the OFF state right now, he can’t think the reverse equation. He may try to think about that when he is ON state.
            By the way do you know that Nitricc stands for:-
            Nonsense
            information
            transmitter
            radical
            immature
            1 cell
            creature

            Thanks,

          • Hashela

            Selam Samuel

            It is sad to see you descending into the dehumanization of individual forumers. You and I have a completely diametrical position. Nonetheless, I had a great respect of you because the decency have been showing until now. I know the „1 cell thing“ is initiated by Menhandis, but do we have to follow that path? Think about the broader implication of this kind of labelling for the quality of the discussion here at this forum.

          • Samuel

            Selam Hashela,
            I agree with you that there should be decency at all times, regardless how we differ our views we need to have respect to one another. My fight is with the message not the individual typing the message. Having different political views or interest shouldn’t be a reason to demonize to each other.

            My message was more of a joke, not an insult, I am sorry about that if it was perceived that way. A person can’t be a single cell, but his messages and thoughts can make him to look like that, specially when it is repeated frequently.

            When you see Tigray this Tigray that every hour from him it’s doesn’t look right. We all have to be responsible to stop such kind of narrative that touches the greater society. Elites/politicians are the narrative/decision makers, thus I don’t have a problem if he focuses on the elites.

            By the way I haven’t seen you warning him to stop the genocide like calls that he has been posting for months, in the contrary you were upvoting his messages. Here are some of his messages —

            • You (PMAA) need to cut-out any internet service to dark Killil, Tigray.
            • If PMAA and his government have any testicles, the cut Tigray’s budget. Shutdown all Tigray’s media.
            • The choice is simple; save the nation of 100 million people over 6% inferior complexity laden uncivilized creatures.

            If you are upvoting his messages, which means you are agreeing with his demonizing messages to Tigray community. Don’t you think?

            Thanks,

          • Hashela

            Selam Samuel

            Thank you for your replay. As an astute observer, I hope that you notice that I pay great attention not mix the Tigrayan people and TPLF whose mind set not representative of the former, I hope!

            Anyway, let us resist from descending into the abyss .

          • Sultan M.G.

            Sam:
            Why don’t you refute what Gen Nittric said or claimed rather than going banana?

            Aside from his rhetoric and exaggerated tone, most of what he brings in is reasonable and factual!
            FYI:
            He is an American, not someone with a rotten and crooked Habesha style mentality!
            He is a struggle shooter!
            Teach or correct him otherwise if u believe he lacks enough knowledge or info about the subject matter or any issue he brings in!

          • Desbele

            Selam Kim,
            Below is excerpt from a story of Eritrean refugee who excelled in athletics in Denver. Yonathan Kifle is now accomplished runner who propelled a Denver college to championship.
            In short , as Eritreans cross the border to escape to Ethiopia ,Eritrean soldiers shoot at them to kill and Ethiopian soldiers shout at them to safety. But for the likes of Sultan and Nitricc ….ምን ልበል?
            You may google Yonathan Kifle Denver runner to read whole article , not posting the link to comply with Awate rule

            “If the moon comes out, the Eritreans can see you, and they’re crazy and they’ll shoot you,” Kefle said.
            “The first time was my entire family, but we got caught,” Kefle said. “My mom and my oldest sister had to pay money (to be released). I was 12 or 13 and I was in prison for two weeks.”

            On the second attempt, he was traveling with a group.

            “We got almost to the border and we found someone who knew one of our friends,” Kefle said. “He said someone got shot and we shouldn’t go up there. So we turned back.”
            The third time, he escaped after saying he was going to church, and then he was able to avoid border guards who can typically spot someone from the city as opposed to the local village and then ask for identification. He was traveling with one of his three sisters and two others.

            “Right when it gets dark, when people are in their houses eating dinner,” the escape began.

            They weren’t noticed as they made it to the other side some time around midnight. But they weren’t finished yet.
            “It’s super steep,” he said. “When we got to the Ethiopian side, we couldn’t find the way down. We’d climb down and it’d be too steep, so we would go back and try another way. There were a lot of problems.”

            Eventually, with the moon now out, Ethiopian border guards spotted the group and began shouting directions to help guide them down. It was 4 a.m. by the time their journey finished.
            ኣሁንም ምስጋና ለኢትዮጵያውያን ወንድሞች በተለይም ደሞ ለትግራይ ሕዝብ!1

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Desbele,

            I am sure similar personal stories run in to thousands. It is a heart break, for everyone that made it hundreds didn’t and suffer some more.

            I sometimes wonder how many Awatistas really know, I mean know what is going on with the folks on the ground.( In both countries)The current generation has changed in their worldly outlook because of their own personal experiences. I fear this generation and mine/Johar may not have any similarity at all. We like to talk about history the new generation talk about survival.

            I will locate that article in Denver, thanks.

            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            kim
            also need to read the story of tigraians refugees in Yemen and Saudi, a refugees that not allowed to return to tigrai, it’s good story.

          • Teodros Alem

            kim
            Yea, thanks to u sissy(shentam) guys, ethiopia is now a la la land, what ever that means. ur idoi argument is like, if tplf is stupid , let us compete with tplf with stupidity, kind of argument. u don’t need.to be back stabber, evil advocates, idoi, good for nothing like tplf to win tplf. the result is there for every one to see it.
            u said “ethiopia military will defend tigrai border” is a joke, ethiopia military will not even defend tigraians life in addis and all over ethiopia, mark my words.
            any ways what is that tplf wants from ethiopia? Can u tell us what they want from ethiopia, other than being maniac? If u know something? I think ur love for tplf is not.a genuine love, it is more of a fear, shenta..

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Kim:
            Consult Gen Nittric!
            What Nittric quoted is not an allegation but a verbatim one as declared by the TPLF Leadership!
            Why are you guys offended when we Eritreans tell you the truth and the facts to your face?
            Admi, take /ACCEPT responsibility and APOLOGIZE for what your cruel Leaders have committed to / on Eritrea and Eritreans … and move on and work for a peaceful Coexistence and mutual Economic Integration!
            If you don’t that,mrnghefun cherk yadrghilachu”!
            I made a counter-argument by stating the facts as they are,by quoting the TPLF and its Leadership!
            Stating the truth and the facts makes one more reasonable Awatista .

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Sultan M. G,

            I prefer not to rehash our recent history again and again, but.
            If you choose to blame Meles instead of PIA for all the problems Eritrea faces, I suppose it might feel better.

            Even if you take the flowery language at face value, all he was saying is we don’t need to do anything PIA will do it to himself. Is that an incorrect statement.

            Mr. K.H

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Mr.Kim:
            Thanks for your feedback!
            Not sure why but my long response to you was instantly eaten up!
            Let me correct you and remind you that I publicly and openly condemned the PFDJ Regime’s Brutal, chaotic and messy policies and its crimes against humanity repeatedly !
            I only responded to the biased and twisted few here for trying to ignore the destructive role of the TPLF against Eritrea and Eritreans in particular and against the horn,Ethiopia and Ethiopians in general and I have done FACTUALLY!

          • Nitricc

            You guys are repeatedly demonising the entire Tigray population

            La-bum; you must be one of those confused Tigryan. how is it attacking TPLF thugs is equally attacking the people of Tigray? If you had a shared of character and decency, then, you will understand that there will be never the same a political party and the people. Since you are too ashamed to show up as a tigryan, you choose to hide behind Eritrean identity. Take this… No real Eritrean will stand for the stupid, filthy, corrupted and backwards Weyane, no one. If we have a problem I am calling out your stupid TPLF, then go jump in the lake.

          • Lebam

            Nitricc,

            You are hilarious. I love your passion, but dislike the amount of hate you carry inside of you. It is unhealthy, mentally, and spiritually.

            I choose not to paint with a broad brush. Vilifying the entire Tigray population is not something I will do, no sane person would. You need to separate politics and politicians from innocent people who have no say in anything.

            I am still not from Tigray, sorry to disappoint you.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Lebam; I have one question and depending your answer I will have my take. Do you believe TPLF and the people of Tigray the same? please answer it carefully.

          • Lebam

            Hello Nitricc,

            No, I do not. However, I think you and a someone else mix them frequently.

            In your latest post directed towards me you separated the two, which I like and support. 🙂

          • Saleh Johar

            True Sultan,
            I do not subscribe to paranoia. I say anything IO feel like saying, as you know, my priority is not partisan, but endangering peoples’ lives could be costly. Thank you for your concern but if I took the position you are asking me to take, tread carefully, I could have done it long ago. Thank you

          • Sultan M.G.

            Ahlen Salih:
            I was trying to dig out Bro Yemanu Jehar’s old photo but failed to find it!
            But I will get it from old friends of de La Salle Christian Brothers !
            Anytime I see your profile pic here , you remind me about my fav mentor and Fratello, the late Fratello Yemanu Jehar( Johar)!
            You look like non-identical twins!

            Bye,I don’t believe that my comment does expresses or reflects paranoia but a common sense reaction when you tried to down-play the facts even though you are trying to be fair, balanced and diplomatic( “nonpartisan”),and I respect that , specially considering your status as a Public Figure!

          • Nitricc

            Could this be a turning point for Ethiopia?

            Hi Horizon; if this not a turning point then it is end point of Ethiopia. I really believe what was George Floyd for Black lives matter Hachalu is a turning point of Ethiopia. If PMAA backs down now, then goodbye. TPLF is on its last leg, on a death bed. That was their last chance and it failed.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Horizon:
            Exactly my point!
            I have said it repeatedly that Dr AAA has become a victim of his own (by and through/for being):
            -Being too “naive and too hectic “ on his Reconciliation and MEDDEMER // Unity approach rather than doing it through a an Organized and Coordinated Committee and Institutions( Institutionalization of the process)
            -For trying to hectically dismantle( allegedly)the deep rooted Ethnic based close to 30 yrs old Federal System
            Like Obama acted like a white President during the first term followed by being a more of Black President during his second term, Dr AAA should have acted slowly the first yr or two on the Meddemer Process

            -For “trusting PIA too much” on the Meddemer process thing

            -For his premature and naive approach for allowing “ghedeb-albo Democracy and Freedom of Speech”, the major factors, which has led to the current mess through uncontrollable toxic media and propaganda by Jawar’s OMN and the Tigrai TV and its Digtal WeyAne Wing.

            -He should have approached the Media and Freedom of Speech through an institutionalized way abd Decrees

            -He should have been more AGGRESSIVE against the TPLF, OLF and Jawar et al and their toxic and destabilizing ghedeb-albo mantra and Terrorist Style Agitations

            -He should have strengthened before anything else-the Federal Security, Intelligence and Police Institutions including in every State/ Kilil and cities

            Well, I know it is easy said than done but my naive opinion!

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,

            The fact that the federal government has not shown dominance and hegemonic power for the sake of democracy, peace and stability, has given some regional governments (tplf) and some individuals the audacity to become above the law.

            It’s funny how you characterized the weakness of the federal government as “for the sake of democracy, peace and stability”. It has been two years since Abiy came to power, week after week what have been hearing was/is mass killings, the Benishangul Gumuz massacre (250 people in a single day by Amhara PP special force), top officials killing, Chief of Staff killing, Zone and Woreda leaders killing, prominent individuals killing, mass arrest, etc.

            We haven’t seen any sign of democracy, peace and stability, instead what we have is tyranny, conflict in most part of the country, killing in most part of the country and social unrest. What does that tell you? It tells you that he doesn’t have power except the media and arresting citizens. Arresting Jawar and Bekelle doesn’t make him strong leader, resolving conflicts and differences through dialogue makes him a democratic leader. They say empty barrels make the most noise.

            There was a flicker of hope at the beginning but it disappeared in few months. When you have Derg remnants as his advisor and DIA as his best friend what can you expect from such unholy alliances? War? Disintegration? Killing? Mass arrest?
            What can Derg remnants and DIA advise him? It explains why we have so much killings and unrest in the country. I guess what the Derg remnants know best is to kill and oppress people.

            Thanks,

          • Paulos

            Selam Samuel,

            Tigreans for the first time in their history managed to have a news broadcasting outlet that speaks their language, reflects their culture, history including the other ethnic groups as in Kunama and Irob receive daily news in their own respective languages. Oromifa is broadcasted from Tigrai as well. And Abiy in a rather brazen attack he shutdown Tigrai-TV and DW. He doesn’t understand the historic implications when he hands more ammunition to TPLF when the people get closer to the Front united more than ever. He is absolutely clueless when he thinks he can suffocate and break the people for he doesn’t have a sense of history at all.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረ
            ዓርኪ-ርእሲ ናይዚ ከዛብ ኣቢ ‘ኳ ኢሳያስ ‘ዩ። ዓርኪ ሰባር ነቓዕ!
            If you had a company and check his resume, would you hire him?
            I would reject him in less than a minute.
            If I had seen Samuel’s comment before I post my poem, it would fit as a response.

          • Paulos

            ኢንጂኔረ,

            It certainly defies logic when a man who got nothing to show for lends an advice to a dumb novice on how to run a big and complex country like Ethiopia. ዝገርምን ዘስደምምን እዩ!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረ
            I couldn’t agree more.
            BTW, anyone who is eager to go to war is a person who doesn’t understand the cost of war.

          • Abi

            MM
            I see you are auditioning for a freelance position under Saul supervision. I hope you get the position.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I always admire your creativity! However, if you can divert it into a positive creativity.
            For the record, I’m an independent contractor! 🙂

          • Abi

            MM
            I hope you don’t go rogue 🙂
            I don’t want to watch “ The Bourne Identity “ in Tigrinya:)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Very funny! Thanks for the laugh 🙂

          • Sultan M.G.

            Dottore:
            I thought Dr AAA was the one,who funded all the Media abd Development activities in Tigrai ….despite the TPLG Reg Govt has declared WAR on him including but not limited to dismantling the Abiy’s Federal Govt as elk as alleged or real assassination attempts on him.
            It sounds rather you have no clue about the dangerous consequences of the destabilizing toxic propaganda the TPLF Reg Gov has unleashed mercilessly against the same Federal Govt!
            In fact, any sane person with common sense would see the latest measure taken Dr AAA a bit too late as the measure could have minimized the chaos in the country!
            No need to a Doctor or a Rocket Scientist to figure this out!
            Am talking as an Eyewitness Account here.
            It was scary to see and hear how the Tigrai TV and the Tigrai elites were talking about against Dr AAA when I was in Addis directly and through the proxy of inviting some mercenary OROMO and even few Amhara Cadres to unleash their toxic propaganda against the Federal Govt in general ,and against Dr AAA in particular !

            U don’t allow such keidi-ghedeb-albo “Fake and dangerous Freedom of Speech “ even in the USA let alone in the nascent democracies like that of Ethiopia!
            It is just disturbing to see intellectuals like you to comment and act like that.

            You openly DECLARED here that Dr AAA should resign or kicked out but NEVER heard you criticizing the mother of all TERRORISM and destabilization.

            U were no where to be find when the TPLF declared an OPEN WAR on Dr AAA his fragile govt.

            Are you acting as Ethiopian/Tigreyans OR as an Eritrean?

            I respect your opinion and your are entitled to your opinions but not to your own facts.

            I have given up on you when you told Eritreans here saying:
            “Tigreyans should lead and govern Eritrea and Eritreans and Eritrea should serve as an Economic hub … for Tigrai!
            (A de facto declaration of Abay Tigrai by Dr Paulos!)

            You sound like a SPECIAL Advisor to the Tigrai Govts and its elites at “ The Mekeke Univ, who have been telling us same mumbo-jumbo over and over”!

            You told us that this is inevitable sooner or later!
            May be possible and true….. but …. RESPECT, please!
            Slow down on us, please!

            A certain Thomas or MebrahtuLight, an old new TPLF Cadre has told us same.

          • Paulos

            Sultan,

            Ask the Tigrai people what they think of TPLF. The rest is irrelevant.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Doc:
            My question or argument was not about the TPLF and the Tigrai people.
            The Tigrai people can not only survive but could have DONE WAY BETTER without the TPLF in all aspects scd fronts and by default, Eritrea and Eritreans could have been save from the toxic propaganda and destabilization we are going through!

            I guarantee you that if Prof Dr Aregawi Berhe and Dr Arkebev Ukbay as well as Dr Abreham were to take over the TPLF Gang, what I told you could have been achieved over overnight and the REAl peace and its dividend for / between the two sisterly nations and brotherly people could have been achieved !

            You told us exactly the same few weeks ago by admiring the Tigrai Fenkil led by same elite!
            BUT:
            If the Tigreyans are siding with the TPLF and are supporting its destabilizing efforts, then, by default , that is beyond COMPLICIT!

            We are purposely and unnecessarily complicating things !

            A simple and honest question:
            If the TPLF Leadership complied with the Intl Laws and Norms as well as with the Ethiopian Federal Govt’s decisions and decrees by peacefully giving up power,do you think we would have been in this turmoil?

            Just shoot your honest and straight answer!

          • Paulos

            Sultan,

            You are throwing words here and there when you said, TPLF and it’s destabilizing efforts. Do you have evidence to the allegation? Moreover, you said, if they give up power? Whom are they going to give up power to? Aregawi Berhe and Abraham? You must be joking! Did you know that, Aregawi was chased out of Tigrai by the youth when he came to visit.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Doc:
            I am NOT throwing words but stating the truth and the hardcore facts as they are’
            Let us call the spade, a spade and swallow the bitter truth and move on and work for the best interest of both sisterly nations and brotherly people .

          • Sultan M.G.

            Doc:
            With all due respect to you, don’t u believe that Eritrea and Eritreans have a LEGIT right to take back what belongs to them, after 20 yrs of patience by all means possible when the right time and opportunity arrive like the TPLF attempted but failed miserably to change the Asmera Regime by all means possible including to take over Aseb and/ or to reverse the Eri Independence “ at the right time and when it had the opportunity” ?
            Am just saying ….

          • Samuel

            Selam Sultan M.G.
            There is no “COMPLICIT” in Tigray history. We can sense dictators from distance, thus leave it to us what we have to do with TPLF. Our history is full of struggle with dictators (Menelik, HS, Derg), even TPLF when they were at the center they knew their days were numbered. Today, they are focusing in Tigray, they are doing great job. Go and visit Tigray then let me know how TPLF is doing.

            Thanks,

          • Paulos

            Selam Samuel,

            The tension between Abiy and Debretsion has reached a critical point where the former’s biggest challenge is not what is happening in Oromia but the coming election in Tigrai instead. As such, he will do everything to stop the election including Isaias invading Tigrai under the pretext of bringing back legally awarded Badme. The onus is on the Ethiopian defence forces if they are going to fold their arms and make a way for Isaias or defend Tigrai.

          • Samuel

            Selam Paulos,
            The strings has been stretched to max specially since he dissolved EPRDF. TPLF knew his games and they are ready for all possible scenarios. His nightmare is his legitimacy and continuity of his power after September 2020.
            The country’s security is at its worst situation, if something is ignited it will be from every direction, Abiy knows that he can’t control that. Thus, his legitimacy and continuity of his power is at risk with the security demand in the country and security apparatus he has in control.

            The military is different story, what I know is he doesn’t have full control of it, they don’t buy his tricks. I am confident they will defend the country and the constitution.

            What TPLF doing is to make sure the constitutional mandate is respected, which includes to do the election every five years. Abiy’s fear emanates from this very reason, he will be questioned his legitimacy.

            I have heard that IA could let Abiy’s military (outside Ethiopia defense force) to go to Eritrea and start some kind of war from Eritrea side, but it’s not going to make any difference, it is already well calculated. At the end he will lose his office and his Nobel prize. Most Ethiopians (except Derg remnants) will consider that as treason. TPLF can convince the Ethiopian people (the majority) to declare Abiy to be impeached for treason.

            Thanks,

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Paulos,

            Honor, dictates that the Ethiopian defense forces will defend the northern boarders of Tigray from any invasion as it did throughout history.
            However, it is not inconsistent to seek few individuals hiding behind the people to face accountability. The Abiy Gov. have to move very cautiously.

            It will also be a big mistake of historical proportions if willynilly civil war is ignited. That possibility only delights the enemies of Ethiopia.

            Mr. K.H

          • Hashela

            Selam Kim

            Thére is no Invasion threat coming from the north.
            All the craziness you hear here is because TPLF is unhappy with the power and wealth share that is commensurate to the size of the population it represents. The screaming and tantrum we hear and see here is a withdrawal symptom of child that used to suck the breast of Mama Ethiopia alone.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Kim:
            Where did you get the info that the North will invade the South?
            From the virtual social media warriors?
            I never heard you though advocating for the peaceful withdrawal of the occupying forces from the Sovereign Eri Territories !
            You can’t have it both ways either.
            In principle,”The occupiers should either get out or enjoy the unpleasant consequences “!

            But Eritrea and Eritreans are not that much dumb to go to war or “ invade” any nation or people after 20 yrs of patience, when there is an ample chance that they will get what belongs to them.

            I made a simple theoretical argument to Dr Paulos’ illogical rhetoric and argument!

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

            As you know, Emperor Yohannes ratted out Emperor Tewodros when the latter was at the mercy of the British under Napier which eventually led to his demise. In a recurring theme, Emperor Menilik betrayed Emperor Yohannes when the Italians came after the latter. Both acts were treasonous but they were also the modus operandi of the era where Realpolitik dictated the day.

            Abiy is bestowed a total command over the armed forces [According to the Constitution that is] where political expediency can necessitate the need for the armed forces to stand down when an invading army crosses the border. It will be seen if the Ethiopian armed forces break ranks and defend the border instead.

            In my opinion, Ethiopia’s number one enemy is not Egypt or any other candidate in the list of possible enemies, Isaias is the enemy. His animosity is not only limited to get to the Weyanes but it has a far reaching implications for a resurrected Ethiopia has made his legacy questionable if it was all worth it. The question became more relevant when Ethiopia managed not only to survive with out Eritrea but she did remarkably well in all fronts including all developmental indices. Isaias has to destroy the image so that his Gedli legacy would not be in vain.

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,

            You always twist history to suit your politics. When people challenged your selective history, you give those individuals who do not agree with you a ranking: Medicare is your favourite word.
            I have been on the receiving end of your jibe, but not never have given you back in-kind.

            To go back to my point and state the obvious. Menelik sent a secret letter to Queen Victoria. In the letter, he could not disguise
            his delight seeing the demise of his rival, Tewdros. You also failed to mention the secret of exchange between the Italians and the king. Needless to say, the treachery was part and parcel of Habesah Warlordism.

            You know well that these kings did not have the concept of a state or a country, but territory. Generally speaking, Africans did not have the concept of a state or a country until the arrival of Europeans. Anyone who does not want to accept this bitter truth, as Simon said, “Go and throw themselves under the bridge.”

          • Paulos

            David,

            Minilik was Tewodros’ rival? Really? And what the heck is Medicare and how is that even possible you say it is my fav word? You’re all over dude.

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,

            I was a typo—meant to be Mediocre. If Minilik was Tewodros’ rival, how can two individuals who belong to the same country went to the extent of selling their souls to a devil? This only proves my point— to trash your twisted history.

            If two individuals who claimed to have one blood can go to the extent of sleeping with a person who comes from afar land, that could only prove your 3000 histories is downright bonkers.

          • Paulos

            David,

            Again you’re all over. Tewodros was the last of the “Era of the Princes” where as Minilik was from Shoa which was unscathed during the last one hundred years. Both had parallel history which later converged when Menilik assumed power which lasted into the 1970s when the reign King Haileselassie’s ended.

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,

            You have not made any point but merely writing cliché phrases.

            You are the one who is not only over but a twisted mind. Have not you preaching on the site that Ethiopia has over 3000 years’ history? Which country are you referring—The Menelik or Tewdros country? Do not bring red herring to hide your feeble argument.

          • Paulos

            Sure thing brother. Sure thing.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam David,

            You are mistaken. Ethiopia is not the only one that had the Era of the Princes. European nations had them. Japan had the Era of the Shogun for almost 700 years.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Simon,
            I always imagined if you were a soldier you would have been a sniper. Short answer but effective.
            Just curious, have you written a [history] book by any chance? If not, you should.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam MM,

            It is just a hobby,

          • David Samson

            Selam Simon,

            I do not dispute people might have lived in our region for thousands of years, but strongly reject they had a country called Ethiopia. “Ethiopic” was the name given to people who had lived across the Nile river. It has hardly to do with what we know as “Ethiopia”. My interpretation of history is Ethiopia, as a nation, was formed
            right after the return of the king from exile.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam David,

            The existence of highly organised ancient States, that were based on roughly present day Eritrea and Tigray, is established by documentary and archaeological evidence. They were D’mt and Axum.

            States are created in a process, they are not born ready made. They are not Static, they expand and contract, wax and wane, rise and fall, and vice versa.

            Eritrea and Tigray, by extension Ethiopia, inherit D’mt and Axum’s history.

            Are we going to say Japan did not exist before 1868 or Greece was only created in 1827?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Paulos,

            Wrong again.

            Tewodros was the first Emperor after he put an end to the Era of the Princes.

            Menelik was imprisoned by Tewodros, but later on he escaped.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat David,
            I was trying to say I don’t want to accept your bitter truth but you are going to throw me under the bridge. ኣንታ ሳይሞን ክንደይ ትረግም?

            Just curious though, you said this as a response to ዶተረ
            [If two individuals who claimed to have one blood can go to the extent of sleeping with a person who comes from afar land…]
            I am sure you have heard about ELF & EPLF. ሀይ! ሀይ! ንብዙሓት ኤረትራውያን ትግራይ ካብ ቺለ ንላዕሊ ትርሕቕ ኴና ያ ት ስመዓና።
            Don’t ask is our policy. So, please refrain from asking.

          • David Samson

            Selam Enginare,

            Since you are one, no problem for you to re-build a new bridge. In fact, it is a good opportunity for you to practice the chosen and forgotten provision. I do not want to bore with you a joke of IA and the profession.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi David,
            Actually, I would like to see some jokes in between these educational lessons, from you guys. I was so poor in history and unfortunately stayed the same.
            Also, I have to call my younger brother for the bridge, I am in other Eng. field 🙂

          • Abi

            MM
            እናንተ ደግሞ ድልድይ አፍርሱ እንጂ መገንባቱን ማን አስተማራችሁ?

          • Saleh Johar

            Ras Abi,
            I love your wit:-)

            Wouldn’t you say blowing up a bridge is benign compared to wiping out entire villages with their people?
            BTW, the villagers I have in mind didn’t blow up bridges, some have never seen a bridge in their lives, and they didn’t know what a bridge is. They were just milking their goats 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I agree with you 💯.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi nebsi,
            In short answer is the Italians. Satisfied? 🙂

          • Abi

            ጣልያኖችስ መገንባት አስተማሯችሁ ማፍረሱን ከማን ኮረጃችሁት? አገር በቀል ነው?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Naturally born with it, Abi.

          • Abi

            MM
            እኔም ጠርጥሬያለሁ

          • Berhe Y

            ራስ አቢ (ራስ ድንጋይ)፡

            የናንተ ነገር ውሸት መጨረሻ የለውም፡፡

            ምና የገነባቹሁ ድልድይ አለ እኛ የምናፈርሰው፡፡ እሲቲ አስር ይቅርና፡ አንድ ድልድል ጥራ፡ እኛ ያፈረስነው፡፡

            የደርግ ረድዮ “ወንበዴ፡ ድልድይ አፍራሲ” እያለ የጮሆው፡ ፕሮፖጋንዳ ገና፡ ከጭንቅላጥህ አልወጥ አለ፡፡

            እንታንተ ናቹ በአየር እየደበድባችሁ፡ የሰው አገር የምትደመስሱ፡፡ ምስላ ልስጥህ ከፈልግ፡፡

            በርሀ

          • Abi

            በርሀ
            አሁንም በረሃ ነው እንዴ ያለኸው?
            ምነው እንዲህ ጨለመብህ? ኧረ ትንሽ ፈታ በል የኔ ወንድም:: ጨዋታ ማቆርፈድ ደግ አይደለም::
            አልፎ አልፎ ዘና ፈታ ማለት የግድ ይላል ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Shrewd Abi,
            You should invite brother Berhe to listen to ምን ነው በደጅ ገባ በዪ ንጂ….song

          • Abi

            MM
            ምነው በደጅ ጎራ በይ እንጂ
            ምነው በማዶ የሰው ልብ ወስዶ
            ምነው በበሩ ሳያናግሩ
            ምነው በሩቁ እየናፈቁ

            (ነዋይ ደበበ)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I used to think ገባ all these years. What does ጎራ mean btw?

          • Abi

            MM
            ጎራ በል ማለት ለጥቂት ጊዜ ገባ በል ማለት ነው:: ቀደም ተብሎ ያልታሰበበትን ጉብኝትን ያመለክታል::

            ኧረ እባክህ ጎራ በል ! እንደው በውጭ ትመለሳለህ እንዴ? …

          • Berhe Y

            ራስ አቢ

            የናንተ ነገር በርሃ አይደለም ጠፈር ያስከዳል፡፡ ይቅርታ ጨዋታህን ስላቆረፈድኩብ፡፡

            መቸ የኛ ሰውች ነው ልብ የምንገዛው፡ በሰላም መኖር ፈጽሞ አይቻልም፡፡ አሁን ምን ስለ መጣ ነው ይሄ ሁሉ ውጣ ውረድ፡፡

            እዚህ አለም፡ ሌላ የሚሰራ ነገር ታጥቶ ነው፡፡ fast internet, electric car, solar energy, this place that place,…stock market up, stock market down…cloud, samsong, basket ball, foot ball..
            I am for real, we would have been better off if we have no governments at all. I mean, zero government…

            አሁን እማ፡ ግድግዳው መገንባት አማረኝ፡፡

            You are right. Watching Sienfield re-runs is better.

            በርሀ

          • Abi

            በርሀ
            የበረሃውን ጉዞማ ውጤቱን አይተኸዋል:: እስቲ ይሻል እንደሁ የጠፈሩን ሞክር::

            መቼ ነው ልብ የምንገዛው? መቼም ልብ አንገዛም::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም በርሀ:
            ኣቢ: ጨጉርኻ ከየሸይበካ ወይ ድማ ከየብርሓካ ጥንቅቕ በል።
            ኣቢ ወዲ ሹቕ ‘ዩ: ንስኻ ድማ ሹቕ ክትከውን ኣለካ።

          • Berhe Y

            ሰላም መሓንዲስ፡፡

            ብስቤትን ብምላጥን ተሓሊፍሉና ድአ እንታይ አልዎ፡ ዘይ ናይ አቦታትና፡፡

            ሕማም ልቢ ድአ ከይገብረለና እምበር፡፡ ደቂ ሹቅ፡ ደቂ ሹቅ ነራና፡ ፋራ ወዲ ፋራ ሎሚ ተቅይርና እምበር፡፡

            በርሀ

          • Abi

            David
            I got better things to do than throw myself “under the bridge “.
            Arsenal dropped two points from a winning position.
            Waiting for the Sunday game against Spurs. It should be juicy.
            Enjoy.

          • David Samson

            Hi Abi,
            Like the Jose of Brazil, the Spurs Capo has a virus. Arsenal should boycott the match due to healthy and safety issues. A draw will do for us.

          • Abi

            David
            You need to win to get in the champion league.
            The Special One is tormenting you one more time.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Paulos,

            “Emperor Menilik betrayed Emperor Yohannes when the Italians came after the latter.”

            Wrong! It should be: when the Mahdists, from the Sudan, came after the latter.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Paulos,

            I accept your historical evidence of the enemy of my enemy is my friend approach to governing in those days.

            Middle age Ethiopians know the real Isaias Afeworki. Just a couple of years ago he was siding with Egypt on the dam. If tomorrow, Eritrean tanks start to roll towards Mekele, I don’t think even Horizon would be o.k with it, just a hunch.
            The rest of Ethiopians, in my opinion, particularly the Amharas will see it as an invasion.
            There is wound that is healing but betrayal of such magnitude, even if presented as a joint operation, won’t go unheeded and PMAA I am sure is aware of that.

            Mr. K.H

          • Lebam

            Selam Kim H,

            Let’s be honest, the Amharas wouldn’t care out of the kindness of their hearts. I sometimes wonder how Ethiopia is still a country and it probably won’t be for long. If there isn’t a leader that can please and appease every ethnic group that is, which is easier said than done.

          • Abi

            Lebam
            You sound more and more like a young awatista from sweeeden who disappeared without a trace. His name was Jordan.
            Today, I’m in a very good mood. Stop degrading the Amharas. They are not your problem.
            Thanks

          • Lebam

            Abi,

            I don’t get it, am I supposed to be worried? 😂

            No, I’m not Jordan.

            Why is Eritrea and Eritrean politics your problem when you’re (I’m assuming) an Amhara?

            Also, the only one degrading Amharas here is you with your behaviour.

          • Abi

            Libam
            I know you are not Jordan. Jordan was 16 years old when he was a visiting professor from Sweden.
            ( he was 11th grade student at that time)
            Did I say you should be worried?
            I want you to be relaxed and happy.
            Do you find me picking up on any particular group of Eritrea?

            Which part of my behavior is degrading The Mighty Amharas?

            Did I say Eritrean politics is my problem? All I need is give you back Badme, take back my port and build a wall between us. I like to make things less complicated.

            I’m still in a very good mood .

          • Lebam

            Ati,

            You come at me for stating facts and claim you ONLY get involved in Eritrean affairs as an Amhara (Ethiopian) to give us back Badme, and take back “your port”. My goodness, the audacity you display is surreal. Try to not look at things through rose tinted glasses.

          • Abi

            Libam
            As you can see I’m generous. I never take what is not mine.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            Since you a minister without portfolio, I have created a department for you: Head of Diarist and Timekeeper on Awate.com. Since I endow you the title, I have every right to ask the first question. Where is Tes? The chap he lives in France— the wine lover. I have not seen him for years.

          • Abi

            David
            Tesfabrihan Redie ( Professor Tes) disappeared without giving any warning. I have asked several times with no response from the Awate Addicts.
            Rumor has it he is attending AAA somewhere in Paris.
            He was trying to bring his wife and son to Paris. I wish him all the best.

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Meles once famously said, ዝኻኣለ ይሳለ ዘይካኣለ ይታኣለ.

            I suspect Tes has given up as many others do when they see no end in sight but the same ol’ recycled BS And he said, scr*w you all. I actually do not blame him. As you said, we wish him all the best.

          • A.Osman

            Selam Abi,

            Tes after he disappeared from this forum, he was writing on his site, then become very active on fb…..he tickled everybody….got them excited and angry at the same time (I wondered if he switched his research subject from food to social science and he was experimenting with people).

            I think he has finished the procrastination stage and he might have entered the intensive stage of research to conclude his phd. Prof. Tes will return once he delivers his baby…politics is in his blood and he had declared his party – Liberal Democrat and he must lead.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Abi

            Hello AOsman
            He was contemplating on forming some kind of political program.
            I wish him all the best in whatever he does including rearranging cafeteria chairs:)
            I just missed giving him hard time.
            His energy was contagious.
            I hope he is well and with his family.

          • Paulos

            Lebam,

            As you know, Ethiopia is a very old country and many times over was counted out where disintegration was a forgone conclusion but there seems to be a spiritual dimension that keeps it together.

          • Berhe Y

            አንታ ጳውሎስ፡

            እዋይ ንስካስ ክትክእለሉ፡፡

            Ethiopia is a very old country and many times over was counted out where disintegration was a forgone conclusion but there seems to be a spiritual dimension

            ጸኒሕካ ከአ፡ the chosen people 🙂

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            ሓንሳብ ሓንሳብ ምውጣይ ወይካኣ ቃጥያ የድሊ እዩ፣ ካብ ኢትዮጵይውያን የሕዋትና ንረኽቦ ጥቕሚ ንዓኻ ዝጠፍኣካ ኣይመስለንን፣ ዲፐሎማሲ’ኻኣ ከምዚኣ ኢላ እያ ትጅምር፣ ምናልባሽ ሓደ ማዓልቲ ብረዚደንተ ሃገረ ኤርትራ ተኾንካ፣ ናይ ኣምባሳደር ቦታ ትተኹበለይ ትኸውን።

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

            Certainly, in war nobody wins where as they say, only the dead see the end of war. That said however, there is the question of legitimacy to govern at stake where Abiy can only own legitimacy through the ballot box but for a dubious reason he is saying that in a time of Corona elections are out of the question. But others particularly the Weyanes are saying that, the unwillingness on Abiy’s part started way before the Pandemic, as such Abiy is using Corona to extend his rule.

            How is the tense stand off between the Weyanes and Abiy going to be solved when the former is sticking to its guns in no compromising position with respect to carrying out election? It was with in this backdrop that Isaias’ recent hubris and bravado should be taken serious when he clearly said that he is not going to sit idle but interfere in Ethiopia’s internal affairs. What exactly does it mean? Does it mean he is going to scuttle the election through invasion? Highly probable for he promised Abiy that he will be there for him all the way to the end to achieve his objectives what the objectives might be.

            Here in this Forum, absolutely clueless people are saying that Isaias doesn’t have to resort to war when he can use the sea port for a bait when the historical account state otherwise. For instance, Ethiopia had survived with out the sea port since 1865. Up to 80% of Ethiopia’s trade with the outside world was conducted via Djibouti. Moreover, for the greatest part of its history Ethiopia was landlocked; it was only with the Federation that it acquired direct access to the sea. Even during the 1952-1991 period when Ethiopia controlled the Eritrean sea ports, Djibouti maintained its position as the most important port for the country where Assab was second in importance. And of course, Djibouti is not the only option when Zeila in Northern Somalia and Kenyan port of Mombasa are equally candidates as well.

          • Selam Kim Hanna,
            As long as tigray is part of ethiopia, if attacked by any power, it is equivalent to ethiopia being attacked, and the responsibility of defending tigray lies with the federal government and all ethiopians. That is the reason we say that tigray is not tplf, and defending the people of tigray is not defending tplf. Ethiopians have proved it in the 1998-2000 war, when they sacrificed their lives for tigray even though they hated tplf.
            On the other hand, the million dollar question is what tplf would do if ethiopia is attacked by egypt. Tplf acts as if it is a government of an independent country, and digital woyane is telling us that politics is about self interest, which rules out national interest as a factor.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            To be honest, your hypocrisy and inconsistent behavior doesn’t have boundary at all. At least try to have a little embarrassment and try to remember what you said few days ago. By the way this behavior is consistent with most of the so called “Ethiopianist” group.

            Last week you said — “In the future no Ethiopian should die in Eritrea or Tigray. “, now you are talking the opposite of what you said last week, Really? We discussed it for length last week, go and see your messages under “Double Standards: Use of Arabic Vs Tigrinya” article.

            Just FYI, Tigray doesn’t need anyone anymore, we don’t need your self-importance anymore. What Tigray needs is peace and stability with all sovereign countries around and with all Nation and Nationalities of Ethiopians. When Derg was bombing the towns and villages of Tigray you should have held Derg responsible, but you boldly declared “Derg was better than EPRDF”, this is your rational mentality.

            Thanks,

          • Selam samuel,
            Try to be honest unless it is your modus operandi. This is the second time you distort what i said to make a point. You know very well under what context i said, “no ethiopian will die in tigray or eritrea”. What i wanted to say was that nobody is going to keep you by force, if you want to go. Here it is;
            “This is not about war, but about the economy. That will be the new front. No one is going to die in the mountains of tigray in the future, …”,
            “In the future no Ethiopian should die in Eritrea or Tigray. The strength of Ethiopia should be through creating a strong economy by avoiding war, unless war comes upon it.”, having in mind the things that happened under the previous governments.
            Tigray remaining part of ethiopia is diametrically opposite to tigray going away. In the latter case the federal government has no obligation whatsoever. Try and you will see. What i said was easily understood, “no war to keep tigray with ethiopia as before”, if you do not try to distort what i said purposefully. I hope you understand as well what it means “remaining part of ethiopia”. There are rights and obligations.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            It is clearly stated in your statement, thus no need to argue on this. You can try to distort as much you want but the facts are self explanatory. You are one of those individuals who said “Hawzen was orchestrated by TPLF”, just because you don’t want to held Derg responsible.

            Last week, the disgraced ESAT journalist Sisya Agena (Abiy’s favorite) has officially declared war against Tigray and TPLF. The reason I brought is the “Menelik camp” has the same mindset about Tigray historically. Here is what he said —

            Eritrea and Ethiopia common threat is TPLF, TPLF was/is the main blockage between us (the so called Ethiopianist). Eritrea and Ethiopia won’t be at peace as long as TPLF continues to be a viable force in East Africa. In order to make TPLF the dustbin of history we don’t have to worry the sovereignty of Eritrea and Ethiopia, there is no such thing sovereignty when you have an enemy at your backyard.

            That is the mouth of the so called “Ethiopianist camp”.
            Yes, Nation and Nationalities of Ethiopians will be alongside side of Tigray but not the “Menelik camp”.

            This is consistent with “Menelik camp”. Can you say anything about “Wuchale treaty” and “Feres-May treaty”? What does it tell you about the “Menelik camp”. They can do anything to stay in power.

            Thanks,

          • David Samson

            Selam Samuel,

            Recently, I have learned Sisay was TPLF’s POW. If this is true, no wonder he has an axe to grind. I can’t exactly remember where I read, but Messay Kebede was a known cadre during the Dergue’s era.

            PS: Since this put Ethiopia on a bad spot, Abi will spare us from jibe.

          • Samuel

            Selam David,
            There is a picture that circulates in the internet that shows Sisay handing over his firearms, but he denied that the picture is edited pic. However, he was definitely POW, he himself acknowledged that.

            Most of the media owners and financiers of the “Menelik camp” media today are either they were Derg cadre or soldiers of Derg regime.

            Thanks,

          • Desbele

            Selam Samuel,

            I remember Tamagn Beyene at Addis Stadium doing propaganda stuff for Dergue. One i remember was ወያኔ እና ሻዕብያ ኣባረርን ብለው ይዋሻሉ። የኛ (ደርግ) ታንኮች የኋላ ማርሽ ብቻ ነው እንዴ ያላቸው። This was like Comic Ali of Iraq. At that very moment he lied about the fact on the ground, the fall of Dergue was just a matter of time as its army was bleeding on all the fronts by gallant fighters of Eritrea and Ethiopia.
            Unfortunately , comic Tamagn resurrects spewing hate more dangerous that what was he doing the Dergue time.
            Anyways, እንኳን ለብርሃኑ ዘመን ኣደረሳቸው

          • Samuel

            Selam Desbele,
            Accepting Truth is against their existence, thus they have to deny and lie to exist and to be seen as valuable for their hardcore supporters.
            The fact is they have lost every battle from Red sea all the way to Addis Ababa, but they always claim we let them in without any fight. The truth is they stopped firing right at 20 kilometres away from Addis Ababa. They fought 1300 Kilometres and they lost badly.

            Most EPLF and TPLF fighters are still alive, they have full evidence of everything. I am not sure from EPLF side but TPLF didn’t want to publish it publicly for the reason of reconciliation, but those Derg remnants don’t care about facts as long as it helps them to sway some supporters.

            Have you seen Tamagn Beyene how he kneeled down to kiss Abiy’s feet, it was an embarrassment.

            Thanks,

          • Abi

            David
            Man City 2 Newcastle United 0
            Half time.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            How did city lose to Southampton at home? Strange time! The Magpies are safe, sitting somewhere in the middle, might be next to the Gunners. Lately, your team have done well. Ola Ola job is safe until the start of the new season. You are now entitled to sing Ole Ole feeling hot, hot!

            I am one of the few Gunners who thought it was a bad idea to let go Wenger. Boy! I was right. We are in a mess. The team require major surgery.

          • Abi

            David
            The game ended 5-0. It was boring. They used only the magpies field.

            Ole Ole Ole all the way!
            Arsenal need to acquire first class players. It looks like you get your players from a clearance rack.

            Liverpool is coming up in ten minutes.
            More popcorn please!

            How did the Citizens lose to the Saints? Because they are Saints!
            መብረቅ እንዳታስመታኝ 🙂
            This is why I love EPL!
            Best league in the world!

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            We do not do popcorn in football-only cricket does. Popcorn are for wimps, it the against all the rules of the footie. If I were going to invite you to Old Trafford for a match, you need to work on coping mechanism. When I went to my first live match,I did not know what to expect . I was so nervous. I was terrified of the unruly drunk English fans, but after a while, it was fun. They are harmless souls. They
            just like to drink and take the mickey of the opponent. You know the
            English have the greatest sense of humour and no one can take the piss off the English. You need to practice galloping 6 pints before half-time. Falling that you are a wimp and should stay at home and have Popcorn.

          • Abi

            David
            I save the good stuff for Man U games.
            FYI, my grill is almost always hot, my cooler is packed with Guinness when I watch a game on weekends.
            Ice tea with popcorn will do for a weekday game specially when the game is after lunch.
            I sleep through the Arsenal game:)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Samuel,

            One of the serious mistakes the TPLF made early on: they should have hanged publicly all mid-level and above Derg cadres by taking them to the Awash desert. A one off operation to bring peace and quiet.

          • Samuel

            Selam Simon,
            I understand your point of view, part of the rationale was they will take some kind of lesson from the past and we will move to more of democratic society.
            However, that’s not what has happened, after they took off their military uniform they opened a media and they started to write “Mekelle is becoming the next Paris”, “TPLF is taking every resource from Ethiopia to build Tigray”, “genocide call like 6% vs 94%”, etc.

            They are the nastiest group of individuals. One of the worst nature they have is they deny wrongdoings of the past. They don’t have a single shame to bring unproven corruption claims against TPLF and Tigray elites. There is no question that there were/are corrupt individuals from Tigray, Oromia, Amhara, Afar, etc. However they don’t talk about their own bad apples, they focus on other bad oranges.

            Thanks,

          • mad mullah

            Hello Paulos,
            I think it is an exaggeration to say Issias Ethiopia’s number enemy. I think Eritrean are transforming our denqorocrat into super man. Issias is more reflection of Eritrean condition.
            I have seen some of his hour long interviews and what you notice is that he spends 10 minutes on Ethiopia, 10 minutes on Sudan, 10 minutes on somalia, 10 minutes on Yemen and arab world, 5 minutes on Djibouti, 10minutes on America and West and finally 5 minutes talking about Eritrea.
            You ask yourself and wonder why does the leader of Eritrea spend more 90% of his time talking and analyzing other countries in an important national interview. I remember asking myself this question in 2005. I remember telling my uncle this guy should be the foreign minister not president.
            I realized one thing- to Issias Eritrea is not a country it is a guerrilla army. He spent 20-25 years running a guerrilla army and that is what he is going to do with Arme-Eritrea. He doesn’t want to build a strong civil Eritrea with strong institutions because he will lose this control. Also, he doesn’t have skill or talent or mental flexibility to make adjustment.
            He is no threat to Ethiopia at all. More like a old neighborhood drunk who makes noise once in a while but is harmless except harming himself(country).
            Most Ethiopian intellectual and youth see him more like an old denqorocrat something left over from bygone era. Issias is what would happen if Jonas Savimbi or General Aideed survived to old age- a guerrilla fighter or warlord who can never turn into a statesmen.

          • Samuel

            Selam Paulos,

            He is absolutely clueless when he thinks he can suffocate and break the people for he doesn’t have a sense of history at all.

            Those groups don’t care to learn from history, for them every chapter is unrelated incident. They say “Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it”.
            The Howzen massacre was intended to break the people of Tigray but it made us stronger, it has united us to fight back those inhuman groups once for all. They did the worst massacre in the country’s history, but we defied the odds and won against the worst dictators. The constitution is the manifestation of the Tigray people struggle for equality and justice for all Nation and Nationalities.

            Today, Tigray is much stronger and capable to resist any dictator at any time. As you said his actions are helping TPLF greatly, TPLF is now seen as the defender of Nation Nationalities. The defamation campaign against TPLF don’t have ears anymore in most regions.

            He can close TV channels temporally, that is what he can do best but they will be opened in a day or two thru Satellite TV, however the consequence will be far reaching. The international community are observing whats happening in the country, thus either they have to take action or somebody has to take action, if not the country will go to unwanted territory.

            Thanks,

          • Selam Samuel,

            If avoiding mass killings and incarcerations as the tplf government was doing is weakness, indeed it is a weak government. Strength doesn’t come through killing. In tplf’s world, killing had been the modus operandi, a solution for every problem, but not for this government. The difference is that in the past it was the tplf state that was murdering people, today it is due to those who have been taken out of tplf dungeons and called back to the country to freedom, that are the instruments of murder. There is a difference there.
            It is investing on dialogue that made the government weak in your eyes. Tplf killed first and then made dialogue with the remaining. One can understand the type of dialogue tplf knew – kill first and talk later.
            It is opening the political landscape that gave political scavengers the chance to misuse the rights they were given. If it were a tplf government, Oromo ultranationalists, who are inciting unrest throughout the whole region, would have been rotting in prison, if they manage to save their lives. Although they had suffered in the hands of tplf, nevertheless, they have chosen to become its errand boys.
            You are playing the same old tune. Those who support Ethiopian unit are derg remnants, and IA who happens to stand on your way to tigrai-tigrigni and greater tigray, should be condemned, because he refused to heed tplf’s call to work for them.
            Finally, closing tv stations shouldn’t have been an important issue for you exceptional people. Nevertheless, you seem to feel the pain. What would you do if more serious things happen. This is not about war, but about the economy. That will be the new front. No one is going to die in the mountains of tigray in the future, and no regional nations and western governments are going to come to your help, because there are not communists any more.
            Therefore, it is better if you try a different approach than war, which seems to be the only thing you people know.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,

            Strength doesn’t come through killing.

            That is exactly what calf dictator PMAA is doing, he is killing innocent people. Amnesty international has already reported some of the killings and massacres. Why are you denying those killings? If he is a leader he will be responsible for every killing by his special forces. The last three days more than 166 people has been killed by the security forces, its a fact. Your biggest problem is you deny facts.

            Few months ago I started a conversation with you by listing Derg killings and massacres, but you denied them all. Now you are denying Abiy’s government killings and massacres. You don’t need to deny those killings, they are obvious and everyone is talking about them.
            In the last two years more people has been killed than the last 27 years combined, this is a fact stated by his specially advisor the previous PM HaileMariam.

            Thanks,

          • Selam samuel,

            If “The last three days more than 166 people has been killed by the security forces,” and “In the last two years more people has been killed than the last 27 years combined”, are your facts, they must be yours and yours only.
            Families who lost their relatives at the hands of machete carrying mobs mobilized by tplf and its servants, oromo ultranationalists, bear witness to what exactly happened. This is propaganda, which insults the victims and their relatives. Those who were killed by the security were not whole families, business people, or because they spoke different languages, etc.. They were killed when they were trying to kill innocent people.
            Who killed about 200 unarmed people in one day in 2005 in addis, and who killed about 400 annuaks, on top of students murdered at the hands of agazi killers, etc? Were they not mz/tplf’s killing forces? How many disappeared and remain unaccounted for? How many died in somalia so that tplf could trade with ethiopian blood and lives? How many tens of thousands died in tplf’s war with shabia? And yet, you compare the number of deaths in tplf’s 27 dictatorial rule with Abiy’s 2 years rule. Even those who died during HMD were killed by tplf security forces, because tplf controlled the military and the security.
            No dictatorial/authoritarian regime has surrendered power without a fight. That is why revolutions do not always end up in change. Tplf is following the trodden path, i.e. fighting change tooth and nail till tplf’s complete demise, which is unavoidable if it continues the same path to the end. With the money it looted, it buys over traitors and it destabilizes the government and creates instability in the country. Ethiopians are not so naive nor are they without memory to believe what digital woyane says, that tplf killed less people than the present government, when it was a killer, torturer and a looter regime known inside and outside the country.

          • Nitricc

            With the money it looted, it buys over traitors and it destabilizes the government and creates instability in the country.

            Horizon; PMAA strategy was them more he tolerate the thugs the more the people of Tigray intolerants TPLF thugs. It is the right strategy but I am not sure if the timing ripe. What makes me wonder is… What exactly do they want? They can’t come-back to power because they are to stupid, corrupted, uneducated and right out garbage’s, they know the People of EThiopia will never accept them, so what they want? You guessed it, revenge!!!! What they are saying is to PMAA is, if we can have Ethiopia no one will. The end. Yesterday was sweet day for me, Getachew Reda walked all the way to Sudan to use Internet. How sweet is that. The fat, the slap, the addicted and corrupted Getachew Reda, the highly authoritarian figure top TPLF personal walk all the way to Sudan to use Internet. The question is, is he stupid enough to going back to Mekelle? back to imprisonment? I don’t know but knowing his stupidity, he might.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Sam:
            Relax!
            You are insulting the basic intelligence!
            The more than 120,000 naive and innocent soldiers , who died for NOTHING after being used as cannon fodders besides being shot from behind so as to capture Asmera and Aseb…. is but behind the worst Crimes Against Humanity Africa has ever experienced!

            This is if U r not convinced about the genocide on Somalia, Anuaks, a million Amhara uncounted for ,the tens of thousands of oromos….. the never ever heard of torture in the filthy prisons including mutilation of genitalia….
            I thought our Eritrea was the worst but …. after finding the Ethiopian horror stories while I was in Addis …I gave up on Africa and it’s leaders!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat Seb Awate
    Before the weekend ends, I invite you to revisit these two songs.
    Few of great Eritrean artists of all time; Abrar & Abrahm!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCjgGEU_FrQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vVDzKrIoLg

  • Eri.Star

    How can we progress when my comments get deleted for expose the hypocrisy, of our tigrinya brothers and sister. They want democracy but what to keep the privileges given to them by a dictator. STOP censoring opposing views . Awate !

    • Lebam

      Selam Eri.Star

      You need to start of by greeting the person you’re replying to. Also, ethnic racism and bigotry isn’t allowed.

      You come of as an extremist, just like MebrahtuLight, Both of you want to make us Eritreans fail, like the neighboring country Ethiopia. Ezi shenkolol gedefo, behansab ken koen allena.

      • Eri.Star

        Hello. I’m new to the site. It was directed @NewDawn. Yet again 4th time my replies to his comments were delete. Walking hypocrite. Talking about reform and democracy but would like to keep the privileges that was given to him by a dictator. As I stated, first step in freedom democracy in Eritrea is the resettlement of Eritrean people to their homes and land. He doesn’t want tribes to speak any other language or to consolidate their land ? Smh. Thx you Lebam

  • MebrahtuLight

    Hi everyone,

    Eritrea needs to be dissolved if we can’t agree on the following issues:

    Secularism
    National language
    Equality (equality in everything – from government positions to the battlefields)

    If we can’t agree on those three fundamental issues, then its best to move on from Eritrea. The solution should be like that of Hindustan (now called Pakistan, India and Bangladesh). Let everything west of Keren go to the “Western Arabic state” and east of Tio go to the “Eastern Arabic State”. Semhar, Gulf of Zula [adulis] and Kebessa will declare independence calling itself “Mother Tongue State”.

    We can do people swaps based on the desires and political appetite of the people. For example, if you’re a Muslim and want to maintain your ancestral language and desire secularism, technology, democracy, equality, then you can come to the “Mother Tongue State”. If you want Arabic, and religious theocracies, you can go to Western or Eastern Arabic states.

    Then 100 years from now, we can evaluate which societies failed and which ones improved the most based on quality of life, innovation, infrastructure, etc. The people in all three areas can then vote on keeping the status quo or rejoining one another based on the governing style of the three that improved the most.

    • David Samson

      Selam Meb,

      I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Majority of Muslims have clear objectives
      and goals; they know what they want get from Eritrea. You should rather focus
      on confusing Christian highlanders of which some have not clue what they
      want from Eritrea. Some of them want to join their blood relatives across the pond,
      but little did they know they will be used as a political pawn and once they
      have done their bidding, they will be thrown away. Some of them seem to know
      and care more about Muslims than the Muslims themselves. Before you embark on
      the unknown journey, we need to clean out our house. We pretend we are one
      united people, but deep down we have not left out clan mindset. You know there is
      no tribe or clan called Hamsien, Seraye or Akleguzay.

      • sara

        selam David,
        Eritreans knew and know now what they want, they got Eritrea the great
        that has gallant people who fought and uphold their unity despite all the ods.

      • MebrahtuLight

        Hi David,

        I do find it amusing when some of our so-called Tigrinya intellectuals demand Arabic and run around apologizing over imagined crimes the Tigrinya did. I actually find it quite funny seeing them adopt “Tigrinya guilt”, similar to how liberal whites have “white guilt”. It is no doubt a manifestation of the western education system thinking the white guilt playbook can replicated within the Eritrean political arena. Little do they know that white people can afford to play these liberal games because they have real power and wealth.

        But I strongly disagree with you with regards to Muslims desiring the same goals. They are very divided, certainly far divided than the Tigrinya are. For example, the Tigre Bet Asgade Confederation [the largest and most dominant faction of Tigre], Massawa Tigre [urbanized Tigre] are with the Tigrinya (generally speaking). The Jeberti, Beni Amer and Saho, are, generally speaking, on the same side with regards to Arabic. The rest, like the Bilen, Kunama, Mensa are with the Tigrinya 100%. The Nara, Afar and Rashaida are kinda on their own, but I think they would align with the Beni Amer faction if push came to shove. Again, i’m only talking about the elites of these groups. This is not a fact, this is just my observation.

        Tigrinya youth don’t care about which rocky village they come from. This was certainly important for their grandparents, because land for them was a way provide food, security, shelter, wealth. In the industrial world, this kind of thinking no longer applies.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Mebrahtu,

          The Tigrinya elites you mentioned, who I call the useful idiots, will not hesitate to sell their mothers in exchange for being praised, admired and being called righteous.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Mebrahtu,

          You really are good, I mean, those who are behind you.

          Are you Eritrean? Which part of Eritrea are you from if you don’t mind.

          From what I gather, you are Tigrinya speaker, do you write in Tigrinya ?

          Berhe

          • sara

            selam Berhe,
            they are on an offensive mode, its the season and is evident every where on the ground and on the media….
            all the gibberish thrown is evident a lot of study and research was done in Mekkele university. Eritrea is studied a to an extent they have invented a different eritrea than the eritrea most of us know
            we will see where is will lead, but its time for call to all eritrean patriots to at least defend the eritrea we love in the cyberspace…

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sara,

            Well,I wanted Mr. Light the benefit and wanted to communicate with him with the language and biher he advocates for passionately.

            That’s my question to see and understand where he is coming from, and the kind of experience he had.

            But so far, even though he was busy responding, he has not got back to me as yet.

            Berhe

        • Eri.Star

          I don’t think we are divided compared to the tigrinya. Until only we have one enemy.. After we return take back our land and homes, will there be difference in political views. Yes. I can see each tribe from multiple Political groups. For us it’s between the moderate and conservative. But I’m sure the moderates will win.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi David,

        “ You know there is no tribe or clan called Hamsien, Seraye or Akleguzay; It is constructed by the Italians.”.

        I don’t know what the real difference is, but
        why do you think then each had different set of rules (higi endaba) that had some differences in how they managed their rules. e.g. land issue, women’s land ownership etc.

        I asked this before but I don’t think I got the answer, do you know (or anyone else) if they had higi endaba south of the mereb.

        At the same time, did the kibre negest/ fithe negest had any relevance North of mereb.

        Berhe

        • David Samson

          Selam Berhe,

          Each region had its customary laws. Some of them: Hegi Legochwaw, Hegi Adgna Legeba, Hegi Amleset Legeba and many more. Our ancestors had a rich village democracy. Nowadays, it is called local decision making. It is only after the arrival of Italians these regions turned into identity. Mind you, when the Italians had arrived in the highland of their colony, they used language to identity them. Hence the name “Tigrigna speakers”. I do not know if you heard the legend story of “Das Hawiye”. If we were to believe this legend, the survivors of the massacre spread all over we call now highland Eritrea. If I were to do my local DNA test, my ancestors lived in the entire region, so genealogy, I can claim all these areas as my ancestors land. We should not split our heir, merely it is now called Eritrea, or Ethiopia. I wish if I have the geez text, I could have written many advance concepts adapted by our ancestors.

          The point being to Meb, there are “Afars” over three regions( Now countries). they inter-marry and do not deny they are one ethnic group, but divided by lines. There are Moslems on both sides of the pond and get on well and never had any issue. Why are the Christian highlanders who are allergic to this construct? I think Simon had sparred me from answering it. To sum up: Christian highlanders need to get their act together before their venture out into new uncharted waters. I have zero trusts on these idiots, hence I have to learn history from scratch. As I learn more, my contempt for these idiot elites grows by days.

          The point to Meb being , there are “Afars” over three regions( Now countries). they inter-marry and do not deny they are one ethnic group, but divided by lines. There are Moslem on both sides of the pond and get on well and never had any issue. Why are the Christian highlanders who are allergic to this construct? I think Simon had sparred me from answering it. To sum up: Christian highlanders need to get their act together before they venture out into new uncharted waters. I have zero trusts on these idiots, hence I have to learn history from scratch

          scratch. As I

          learn more, my contempt for these idiot elites grows by days.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            1) Geez text. I used asmarino geez software online (qal.delina.org). using chrome. I type it there and then copy and paste and it works. I don’t how others use geez.

            2) We have covered these before but we tend (those of Christians and including Amhara, Tigray) tend to exaggerate our difference instead of looking history from the context of the time, and compare to similar events around our region and around the world for that matter. For example, if we look at Europe at the time of Napoleon and the wars that went on between France, British, Russia is horrific. The first and second world was was even worst. The far east between Japan, China Korea and others is brutal. So in relative terms, I think our region is not that all relevant. The point that I wanted to make is, I am not suggesting people didn’t suffer, but if those countries who went through so much are able to make peace today and move on, what is stopping us from doing the same.

            3) I asked you about the Eritrean higi endaba, to see if the actual villages were separate (as in local entities) as suppose to all the same. I bring this up, not to show that we are separate using DNA test, but the way we conducted our lives at the time. Again if we use Europe as an example, most of the European countries today, exist as city states (e.g. Italy for example), and they are untied not so long before the entities Eritrea and today Ethiopia were created.

            3) In case of Eritrea highlands, with the exception of during Alula and Yohannes, I am not totally convinced that the Eritrean highlands were part and parcel of the Tigray kingdom. At some point or another they were allies and some times enemies but not under total control. This is why I asked if, in Tigray they had similar customary laws or did they use some thing else. And this is a question. Just because we spoke Tigrina, as it seems to be the case today, a lot of groups assume we are one people and we were always one people. For example, there is a word that I heard “ርግጫ” that used to be enforced some kind of payment in tigray, and I am not sure it was in Eritrea highlands.

            4) As to why the Christians are not getting along. Well I can say it’s because they are in power (in Tigray / Eritrea) and they are computing. If there were not in charge (as in during Italian/HS times) I think they were getting along fine. If we look at other Muslim countries in the middle east (who are in power) we tend to see conflict as well. So I think it’s the nature of being “un-elected government” and it has nothing to do with religion / ethnicity.

            5) I know I have suggested you to listen to the interview of Ahmed Alqeysi (assenna) but you should probably consider. The reason I say that, as much as we think there was a well planned thought to change the culture of the people by the fronts, but to me it was not like that at all. I think it was more to do with taking and holding power and manipulate the population in stay in power. Basically all the senior leaders of the EPLF front for example, handed over power to Isayas in 1994 congress without much thought or resistance (in fact supported it) and they didn’t know how he will that power to advance his agenda. But from the key party leaders, they did not hope or wish anything wrong to the people.

            Isayas turned out to be a mistake in history for how he turned things around I think. He could have turned it for the best and we would have been talking about something else now.

            Berhe

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት:

        ከምዝመስለኒ *ጸገምና እዘን ዝስዕባ ነገራት ዘይምፍላጥ ‘ዩ:

        ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ድሑር: ሓውሲ ደንቆሮ ‘ዩ
        ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ኣብ ባይታ [ኣብ ቅድሚኡ ተገቲሮም] ዘለዉ ነገራት: የለን ዝብል ‘ዩ
        ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ምስ ነብሱ ዘይከይድ ትምክሕቲ ተሸኪሙ ዝዛወር ህዝቢ ‘ዩ
        ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ድኻ [ናይ ሓንጎልን ንብረትን] ምዃኑ ዘይኣምን ህዝቢ ‘ዩ
        ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ንወዲ ዓዱ ገዲፉ ንወጻእተኛ ዘኽብር ህዝቢ ‘ዩ
        ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ናይ ዓቕሊ ጥፍሽና ዝውንንን ‘ዩ።

        ነዘን ነገራት ከይቀየረ ካብ ዲክታተር ምሕደራ ክናገፍ ክኸብዶ ‘ዩ።

        *ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ክብለ ከሎኹ: ትዕዝብተይ ኣብ ህዝቢ ከበሳ ‘ዩ።

    • sara

      selam mebrahtu,
      your english is wonderful… better than the so called ReAssi Tanikaa, and what you are throwing as is from the same playbook of the same Tanika — no buyers… yeKeneylna.

      • sara

        selam Mebrahtu again,
        just a correction- it was ReAssi AqaT, not Tanikaa

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Mebrahtu,

      I was watching this interview in Tigray Media House, with Tigray version of Sarah Paln. I think she has better idea than your,

      ሓንቲ ስማ እካ አይሓዝክዎን፡ ካበይ ከም ዝረኸብዋ አይፈልጥን [ምናልባት ካብ እንዳ ዓብዱ ሓድሽ ዓዲ እዩ መስለኒ] ያኢ ሳራ ፔለን ኮይናትለይ [ሳራ እካ ክትራያ ደስ ትብል] ፡

      "ልሕና ኤርትራ ናትና ምስ ገበርናያ፡ ነዞም አብ ኤርትራ ዘለዉ፡ ትግራኛ ለይኸኑ ብሐር፡ ዘግነት ክንህበኦም ኢና፡ ኸምዚ፡ አብ ወጻኢ ዓዲ ዘግነት ልህቡና" ዘግነቶም ሒዞም ይነብሩ፡፡ .

      We will do all the doctor TPLF subscribed for us and to repleat.

      “Secularism
      National language
      Equality (equality in everything – from government positions to the battlefields)”.

      We will make sure everyone dies equally in battlefield. Even if the battle is over, we will count and we will make sure to kill people who didn’t die in the name number so we are all equal.
      አነ ዝገርመኒ፡ ነቲ ሕዝቢ ትግራይ ኢንታይ ዓይነት ጽልኢ ኢኹም ትገድፍሉ ዘለኹም፡፡

      ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዓለም ምሉእ አሰሊፊኩም፡ ኩሉ ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያ እዕጢቅኩም፡ ኩሉ ገዲፍኩ ንክልተ ዓመት ተቀሪብኩም ዘየምበርከኽኩምዎ፡ ሕጂ ያኢ ብኢንተርነት ከተበርክኽዎ ምሕሳብኩም፡ ጽላለ ጥራሕ እዩ፡፡ ጸላእቲናን ፈትወትናን ጽቡቕ ገርና ፈሊጥና ኢና፡፡ ህዋሓት ደሓን እተዉ፡፡

      Berhe

    • Abi

      Hello MebrahtuLight
      After I read your comments, I said to myself ቶማስ በየት ዞሮ መጣ?
      There was an awatista by the nick Thomas who had the same idea as yours.
      Welcome or welcome back.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi All,

    It’s a weekend and I would like to share happy and sad news about Eritrea people triumph where ever they might be.

    1) tragic untimely death of Abel Mengisteab, a young aspiring leader.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawasun.com/news/local-news/city-mourns-death-of-abel-mengistab/wcm/a548179f-29d3-4ac8-9251-0513568a404d/amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawasun.com/news/local-news/city-mourns-death-of-abel-mengistab/wcm/a548179f-29d3-4ac8-9251-0513568a404d/amp

    2) Even Araya – He came as a refugee with no English. Now he’s valedictorian for grade8.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5625741

    3) Ibrahim Omer is a former refugee from Eritrea, now running for the New Zealand parliament.
    https://www.facebook.com/IbrahimOmerNZ/

    https://youtu.be/AS7RfiEbJI0

    Berhe

    • mad mullah

      Hello Berhe,
      Here is an Eritrean organization that is trying to harness Eritrean talents and ability for productive endeavors.
      https://eritreandiaspora.org/

      • Berhe Y

        Thank for sharing mad. I also know this Facebook group called “Humans of Eritrea” which had interesting story of Eritreans.

  • %_%

    [Read the posting guidelines. You must begin with salutation–and we suggest you chose a nick that can be repeated//Moderator]

    The pro-PFDJ bunch in Asmera ruin it for everyone else in the country. Many of them are unwavering and compliant to a tee and are intent on keeping Isaias on the throne. Like robots, they never question a single thing he does.

    Look at how they were chanting pro-union crap in 2018. Or how they see blatant inequality and ignore it. (like the students in Scuola Italiana di Asmara not being forced to go to Sawa)

    People outside the capital are more reasonable. I mean, look at those who refuse to give away their girls to Sawa – they never touched them after that. If only the people in Asmera would do the same, but they are intent on keeping the wheels turning.

    • MebrahtuLight

      Hey dreary days

      Why do you frame the predominantly Christian kids that attend Scuola Italiana di Asmara for not going to Sawa as ‘blatant inequality’ [true if they don’t], but then turn around and frame rural areas who have refused to send their daughters to Sawa as being more reasonable? Is it because the rural areas that refuse to send their daughters are Muslims?

      In Isaias’ Eritrea, Muslim women do not do military service. In theory, that’s 25% of the total population exempt and 50% of the Muslim population that are exempt. If you dig a bit deeper, you’ll see a large percentage of Muslim men from various ethnic groups also are exempt. So “National Service” disproportionately comprises of Tigrinya men and women who are not benefiting from the blatant Muslim favoritism by Isaias.

      • Paulos

        Selam Mebrahtu,

        If the “Favouritism” or should we call it “Affirmative Action” holds true, it could as well was designed to compensate for they were cheated and scr*wed over by the Unionists in the 40s-50s who were predominately Christians when the former opted to create a Beja State instead.

        • MebrahtuLight

          Hi Paulos

          It would be impossible for a “Beja State” because the Beni Amer and Sudanese Hadendowa are mortal enemies. So much do the Beni Amer hate the Hadendowa that their ruling class called Natabis requested the Italians to come govern them in the late 19th century. They did this so they can keep the advancing Hadendowa/Mahadist at bay.

          If it came down to it, Beni Amers would rather be under Tigrinya domination than Hadendowa domination. Look at Eastern Sudan today, the Beni Amers are calling for dual Eritrean citizenship, even though their historic ancestral land is Suakin, Sudan.

          Now ask yourself, who would want Eritrean citizenship in 2020? Eritrea is a communist failed state that treats Muslims like children and Tigrinya people as their national service nannies. The Beni Amers of Sudan would rather join this communist circus in Eritrea than deal with Hadendowa and Nubian aggression in Eastern Sudan. That is telling. Perhaps they need more Arabic to unify them more?

          In its current form, National Service is ethnic cleansing of Tigrinya people. If it were limited to 8 months or so and applied equally with good regulation, it could be a force of good, but under Isaias, National Service has robbed the Tigrinya people of normality and a normal family nucleus. It is the biggest push factor of Tigrinya refugees.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Paulo,

          How do you miss what Mebrahtu is saying.

          When was ever the Eritrean Muslim’s ever asked for special treatment or you call it “affirmative action”. They were never “scr*wed over by the unionist or at least framed it as such. They reached a compromise and reached an agreement.

          Mebrahtu is on a mission to create a wedge “pretending” to care for the Eritrean Christians, it’s an extension of the mission of creating confusion. Arabic language, Islamization, Tigray-Tigrinya, agazian and the new evolution, let’s divide Eritrea, it use to be two (lowland / highlands) now they expanded it to three.

          It’s their plan of “killiazation” of Eritrea to weaken and fight each other so they can get at their prize.

          What’s this beja state that you talk about?

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            Well, let me start from the last of your comment. The creation of “Beja State” is a bit complicated for it can not be seen in isolation of the dynamic Eritrean politics which dominated the 1950s.

            To put it tersely however, the Muslim League of the Western Province broke off the main ML which had been the main proponent of total independence in the early 40s and 50s under the leadership of Ibrahim Sultan. However, the latter’s wobbling stand with respect to independence particularly when he voted in favour of Asfaha Weldemikael to be the Chief Executive of Eritrea when Tedla Bairu resigned, the then President of the Eritrean Assembly Sheik Ali Redai formed “ML of the Western Province” where the ultimate objective was, should Eritrea is united with Ethiopia, the Western Province could join the Eastern part of Sudan which would result in the formation of a “Beja State.” Certainly, Beja is a drawback and a powerful Kingdom that had challenged the Axumite Kingdom in the 7th Century which had contributed to its downfall as well.

          • A.Osman

            Selam Paulos,

            From wikipedia the wobbly one looks ML of Western Province (MLWP). First the British accuse Ibrahim Sultan as being an Italian agent and it seems MLWP were playing as they could not compromise when ML was working within the Independence Block and later when realising the British Administration would not grant their wishes to do a 360 degrees turn to opt for Union with Ethiopia. From memory, Ibrahim Sultan prior to forming ML had fought those elites to free the Tigre people from servitude and I guess they were on the driver sit to form MLWP. You noted a similar challenge that Weldeab Weldemariam faced when Hailesellassie made a deal to free the governor of Tigray. The two incidents show that both Welwel and Ibrahim Sultan had clarity in mission and it was to form an independent Eritrea.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            Thank you for the history lesson.

            I did not understand the context and the paralled you tried to draw when you wrote :

            “If the “Favouritism” or should we call it “Affirmative Action” holds true, it could as well was designed to compensate for they were cheated and scr*wed over by the Unionists in the 40s-50s who were predominately Christians when the former opted to create a Beja State instead.”

            If I understand correctly what you wrote, the “Muslims” are receiving “favors” because of the injustice done to them by the “unionist”.

            Are you suggesting the “unionist” are running the country today?

            If they are not then, why do you say that? How on earth have the “unionist” have anything to do with today’s Eritrea under IA.

            Are you joking or you too are also trying to confuse people, and plant some doubt. Just like Mebrahtu is doing by bringing irrelevant example.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            Why are you being paranoid and defensive? Nobody is here to confuse anybody and that is precisely the reason arises to keep oneself abreast and well informed about the genesis of events.

            If you have read my comment I said, if what Mebrahtu has said holds true….And if that is the case, one can only speculate why Isaias wavered and exempted the young women from the Lowlands from enlisting Sawa. And my assumption was that, it could as well be of a historical importance when the Lowlands were cheated and back stabbed by the Eritrean Assembly which was predominantly Unionists who had worked hard more than the fair share of the Ethiopian government in abrogating the Federation which came to fruition by the effort and sweat of the Lowlands.

            Moreover, the mistrust and bitter grievance was more accentuated when the King voted for the Bevin-Sforza deal when they recommended the Western Eritrea to be incorporated into Sudan and the Central and Highlands of Eritrea into Ethiopia. This is critical if not telling the fact that, if the King truly believed that the Lowlands were his people in an equal footing with the rest of Eritrea and Ethiopia, why didn’t he reject the deal but instead accepted it? And that was precisely the reason that the founders of ELF in the early 60s presented their cause–Eritrea as an integral part of the Arab world colonized by Christian Ethiopia.

            Certainly, the religious dimension later on took a life of its own when Christians from the Highlands who had joined ELF remained ambivalent to the extent when some surrendered to Ethiopia and others remained behind in the company of Isaias Afwerki and authored ንሕናን ዕላማናን when they clearly stated that ELF was an Islamic organization set out to get Christian Eritreans. Realizing the unworkable image, ELF in 1969 went into structuring the Front when it dissolved the Supreme Council and established a General Command instead. But again, that could not being Isaias and his group into alignment when the suspicion was still there. The balance of power shifted toward Isaias later on when Dergue came to power and started executing Asmara residents who were prominently Christians and joined the Isaias group in thousands. Isaias was emboldened and kept refusing the offer of reconciliation but opted to push out ELF from Eritrea instead. That he did in the summer of 1981. But certainly he can not push out an entire segment of the society and he had to find a middle ground. And that middle ground is anybody’s guess.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            A small correction. 1969 military conference was two years before Nehnan Elamanan. Issias’ group split when the ELF was preparing for the first congress of 1971.

            Those who surrendered did so when things got difficult after the 1967 defeat of the Arabs. Thus, the Ethiopian propaganda went full throttle saying the Arabs are defeated and the Arab-Muslim ELF is done. A few believed that and surrendered. Add to that the Halhal defeat of the ELF where about 50 combatants, including the commander of the 2nd zone, Omar Ezaz, were killed.

            After 1974, the majority of the ELF were from the highlands and though the ELF achieved full diversity by then, the tone of propaganda against the ELF didn’t change— to this day. TPLF also believed in it and allied with the EPLF, Numeiri’s Sudan, and Bahabri’s Saudi Arabia, and attacked the ELF. Pls don’t fall for the explanation of the culprits. … and Th e victories that writes history whimsically.

          • Paulos

            Selam Aya Saleh,

            Rest assured I have done my homework so that I won’t fall either to propaganda or to the propaganda of those who refute the propaganda.

            Certainly the Adobha military conference was to address the grievances of the combatants including the five zone structure where it was divided according regions where the Christian Highlands were the Fifth. And of course there was favoritism towards particularly the first two zones. Of the 38 who were elected to the General Command, 20 were from the same old leadership who resorted back into their old habit and subsequently alienated the Christians further.

            By the end of 1970, Isaias was already in alliance with Sabbe and Obel where the First Congress in 1971 called for settling differences with Isaias and a call for Sabbe and Obelites to come back to the fold instead. Isaias again refused. Luck for Isaias had it that, the Ethiopian revolution in 1974 changed everything including the balance of power between ELF and EPLF.

            One thing was crystal clear, when the ELM was more progressive and inclusive, the early ELF was exclusive which presented its cause–Eritrea as an integral part of the Arab world. Sadly, ELM was eliminated by ELF when it was in turn got eliminated by EPLF. The recurring theme seems to re-emerge when EPLF-1 is at loggerheads with EPLF-2 when the latter is entertaining the idea of working with the Weyanes to get to the former when it is in cahoots with the new guy in Arat-Kilo.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            Indeed. Such issues are not easy to debate qunchl-qunchl abilka. I agree, let’s leave it at that.

      • A.Osman

        MebrahtuLight,

        Tell us more how the national service works and the loophole or favouritism that Muslims use.

        On those who preferred to die that giving their daughter to the Sawa abuse camp, it is said that Isayas stated….BegiE benewih qemed teAserkaya, zitefetehet yimesla. I don’t think there is an exemption, but a cloud of wrath awaits them from the revengeful dictator.

        Instead of complaint, they need your solidarity and only then we can repel some policies that are harmful to all.

        Regards
        AOsman

    • A.Osman

      Selam dreaey days,

      The problem is not the exemption of school children from Italian school or girls from some regions in Eritrea. If the system is abnormal, we should question and fight to demolish it rather than wondering why some have managed to avoid it.

      Personally, I would exempt all girls, we should not tolerate what they are subjected to in the name of equality. Those who voluntarily want to join the army, it is their choice and I believe over 90% of our sisters would not even have a second thought.

      Italian school is not like in the olden days, it is the school of elites, diplomats, generals and foreign nationals etc… It gets preferential treatment, it is not pestered like other independent schools, it has its own curriculum with few additional subjects to comply with government requirement. Last, the government cannot run its specialised education in Sawa, even if it wanted to.

      What works is the old system of managing military service upon completion of school…..that’s if national service is maintained as compulsory to all…God save us from that stupidity.

      Regards
      AOsman

  • Paulos

    Selam All,

    It is true that Jawar and Bekele Gerba are taken to an unknown location–they both are arrested [Absolutely stupid move]. Perhaps, Abiy is scared that the two prominent Oromo politicians can further exacerbate the already tense and volatile situation. Adama is engulfed with mass demonstrations where several people are killed. The internet was completely shut down earlier today but later on was restored in some part of the nation. One thing is clear: Abiy is incompetent and he must leave office. You can blame the Weyanes to your delight but the house that is burning is far away from Tigrai. Think, think and think. Don’t be stupid!

  • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

    Dear Jahrai,
    Thank you for your well thought article and the basic cornerstones where we could converge and start afresh to build our nation from the dust. With devilish intent, isayas and his cabals have meticulously demolished Eritrea’s basic fabrics- the family, economy, unity, culture, youth, confidence, etc.
    I completely agree with you that higdef, agazian and andenet are our primary enemies. They are just like the Trinity (Christian faith) that conveniently become one or/and three. Notwithstanding your reserved cautions, a preemptive action against the national security institution could be counterproductive. I believe, we should make strategic decision not to indulge into excessive witch-hunting for consolidating our unity.

  • Brhan

    Merhaba, Jahari Adal,
    Thanks for your article. Well written, where it focused on our internal potential to eradicate this regime. On the external factor #10 , you stated it well but we have also to watch how the external factor/s are playing a role in keeping the dictator in power. Ethiopia for example, is interfering in our politics to a degree there is news that it sent Ethiopian troops to Eritrea. The dictator also asked the Sudan to let his spies to have secutiy offices in a number of cities in the Sudan but this was rejcted by the Sudan. The dictator has one aim: to destroy Eritreans who are asking for justice, democracy and rule of law in Eritrea. And if is countries are willing to give him a hand on this , then we have to deal with them accordingly.

  • mad mullah

    Hello Adal,
    I understand your emotional message and concern for Eritrean people but except for good title… I don’t think you are saying anything concrete or practical.
    I wish the Awate board would have higher standard or requirement for article published.
    It seem like you wrote your article in another language and machine translated to English…
    So, what exactly is the way out of misery?
    What you have in Eritrean are some old semi-literate guerrilla fighters with no practical experience or knowledge on how to run a civil society who want to hold power by any means necessary.
    They can’t see or imagine Eritrea without their leadership and they will not give up until they start dying. For them they are Eritrea and Eritrea is them.. and this started in the mountains of Nakfa. It is a mindset that is so backward and so last century.

    They can’t reform since all they know is the gun and orders.
    Our 30 year war for Independence created a monsters and those monsters are part of Gedhli generation who will not give up power until they die.
    I don’t know anything about this Agazian and Neo-Andnet groupies… 5 to 10 minutes of online noise with no substance.

    People like Ibrahim Sultan and Woldeab Woldemariam had dreams of an Independent Eritrea that would part of the United Nation and global village…
    Right now we are going to worst form of leadership but most of those Gedhli generation dinosaurs are dying and the current form of government will go with them…
    The Eritrea imaged by Idris Awate and Ibrahim Sultan will rise again… Issias and his Club is only government we have had.. I think the next government will be much better…

    • Paulos

      Selam Mad Mullah,

      I agree with you. A bespectacled and impressive looking person with academic credentials to his sleeves gets on the podium with a paper subtitled “Challenges and Opportunities…” And in another hall perhaps an ocean away where retirees with winter scarf around their neck end the meeting with ብዓወት ተዛዚሙ. Both scenes went on for over twenty years with the a tiring deja vu. And this article is not an exception either. Just talk, talk and endless talk with no solution what so ever. Philosophers, Karl Marx once wrote, may have interpreted the world, the point is however to change it.

      • Abi

        Paul
        What article you talking about?

        • Paulos

          Abination,

          The article on the above.

          • Abi

            Paul
            ምነው ግራ ገባህ?
            በደህና ነው?

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Dr. Paulos and Mad Mullah! (disdain engaging virtual names),
        I could see the point both of you have missed from this piece. It is the means to an end that has been bewildering the opposition politics. For me, the substance the article suggests as diagnosis of the condition of the problem is understandable. The stuff is all known, and heard and read often times in the past. We all know this; and one can talk in abundance about the myriad reasons. It in a nutshell, the problem rests in the phase of transformation process the nation has stopped in thanks to the one-man dictatorship.

        Though I cannot pontificate to you that post colonial nation-states do carry with them the process of evolving to consummation.The lucky among them (not many actually) get benevolent leadership that can balance the bounties power brings with it with the best interest of the people in the state.

        Our national state falls in the category of post colonial states that has been recklessly unfortunate. The consequence has been the elites have fallen in to hopeless disarray and could not even acts together and discover the means and mechanisms that can competently challenge the dictatorship.

        • mad mullah

          Hi Ismael AA,
          Since you got so much out the article can you tell us what is the way out?
          The article has nice title and good graphic but in terms of content it is overall empty.
          In matter of fact, all I can say about the article is it is click-bait sort. In matter of fact, some of articles on Awate are click-bait- good on title and graphic but generally empty.
          There doesn’t seem to be much of standard for publication. Our community is hounded by two elements: Gedhli generation stagnation and our time is Zemen Dinkro.
          When Issias takes a minister of finance and next day make him minister of agriculture and following week minister of internal affair… it is all random and arbitrary. There is no standard. Institutions have a standard.
          If the objective is to “Inform. Inspire. embolden” what is the standard. Do you stand against Click-bait articles?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam mad Mullah,

            I read this comment and I went through a strange feeling. I don’t know how to describe it. I have a question for you: why don’t you write and submit a good article so that we can all throw darts at it.

            Ambivalence is the word I was looking for.

            Mr. K.H

          • mad mullah

            Hello Kim,
            That is a great idea… I am working on that..

          • Brhan

            Mad Mullah,
            Smartly you have attacked the writers, commentators and now the website itself. You revealed your mission very qucikly. A PF(DJ) typical style. I it always fears what writers or commentators or websites say about Eritrean politics, thus, its mission is to unleashe character assasination. So you have to choose either focus on the content or continue in the dead mission.

          • David Samson

            Selam MM.

            What we got in return for our investment is “Zemen Dinkro”. Many of Ghedli’s Generals do not have teeth. There must be a chronic issue with a dental practice in Eritrea. During Derg, there was a dentist (I think his name is Dr Srur) in downtown Asmara. While the cruel man could acquire the best medical treatment abroad, he condemns his generals not to smile on Telly .

          • Paulos

            David,

            So funny Eritrea is left with ጓህማማት Generals including figuratively. If Isaias had taken them on a long voyage [James Cooke and his crews] sailing the sea, one would have concluded lack of Vitamin C as in Scurvy.

            Here are competent Physicians in Asmara I recall when Dergue was in power.

            Psychiatry: Dr. Manfredi [Italian.]

            Internal Medicine and Cardio: The Silla brothers [Italians]

            Dentists: Dr. Feo [Italian] and Dr. Abulrahman [Eritrean.]

            Obstetrics and Gynecology: Dr. Carta [Italian.]

            Pediatrics: Dr. Ethiopia [Eritrean.]

            Ophthalmologist: Dr. Worku [Ethiopian.]

            General Surgery: Dr. Yibarek [Eritrean.]

          • Abi

            Paul
            When Derg was in power …
            Happy Independence Day!

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Here is some logic. Mengistu looked so bad for we had to compare him with the reign of the King which was far better. Isaias looks so bad for we compare him with the Dergue which was far better. Following the logic, anybody who comes after Isaias will definitely fare better for nobody can be worse than Isaias.

          • Abi

            Paul
            On my way!
            በእጅ የያዙት ወርቅ ከመዳብ ይቆጠራል ይሉሃል እንዲህ ነው::

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Clearly, you must have profited from Derg’s rule because you oppose any gamble for change. A slave trying to escape to freedom could get killed or be captured by other cruel slave traders. You are telling the slave that he should have stayed put, thanking his old master for letting him stay alive.

          • Abi

            Simon
            You are fired up today. You are hotter than my grill.
            Of course, people should fight to free themselves from slavery. The reverse is also true in rare situations.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            What “rare” situations?

          • Abi

            Simon
            The rare situation is where people suffering from affluenza struggle to bring slavery upon themselves.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            When the democratic rights of people to choose their representatives, manage their affairs, including a free press, and usage of their languages, are taken away they will revolt. This is, of course, is a gamble.

          • Abi

            Simon
            I hate gambling. Gamblers are losers.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            I am searching for my dear brother who, disgusted by the bigotries of a forumer here, is socially distancing.
            For the sake and sanity of this forum, please help by posting the best Amharic poetry you know. Like the herd of gnus for a lion resting under a acacia tree, one hopes that a poetic post will lure him from the floors of his laboratory into the open. For we know he has a weakness for Amharic.

          • Abi

            Hello Hashela
            I also miss him as much as you do.
            I think it is better for him to stay in the lab since there is not much going on here. You know he avoids bickering.
            Anyway, since it is Sunday, I like to invite with you and all interested Addicts to open their bibles and read Genesis 11:7.
            ኃይሌ እየከዳኝ ጉልበቴ እየሳሳ
            የወዳጄ ናፍቆት ቢያሳየኝ አበሳ
            ተነሳሁ ልፈልግ ጀመርኩኝ አሰሳ

            መምህሩ ቀርቶ ባለነጩ ካባ
            ሃሸላ በሃዘን እንባውን ሲያነባ
            መድረኩ ላይ ሲዘል የአይጥ ከላባ

            እስኪመለስ ድረስ ኃይሌ እንደቀድሞ
            መፍትሄው ፀሎት ነው በአንድ እግር ቆሞ

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Ras Abi,

            I wish I have the magic wand, I would have drafted you to be the chief editor of Addid Zemen out let.

            Even those who speak Amharic as a 2nd or 3rd language do appreciate the delicate and smooth way to impart and deliver good thoughts.
            Ras Abi, after years in the virtual desert you still have that Amharic gift. You display it well. I hope you open a file on your computer today and put down all that crosses your mind, to be edited and presented at a later date.

            As far as the language goes, it is one of the features of Amharic that compels others to adopt it as their own.
            Wishing you all the best.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Selam Mr Kim
            Thank you for the kind words.
            መምህር ኃይለ ጠፍቶብኝ ፍለጋ ላይ ነኝ:: እኔ በአማርኛ ሞክሬያለሁ:: እስቲ አንተን ይሰማህ እንደሁ በፈረንሳይኛ ሞክር::
            ኅይልና ብርታቱን ከእድሜና ጤና ጋር እመኛለሁ

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi and Hashela,

            I miss you too guys. I miss many other interactions too. I chose to stay away, not only to preserve myself from certain anti person mines, but also to take some break. Rest assured I am around and I appreciate a lot the useful debate and exchanges that brought me here in the first place.

            ለጊዜው መልበስ መርጫለሁ ሸፈነ-ምላስ
            እንዳያመጣብኝ ይህን ያልተባለ የግል ክስ

            ኣንዳንዴም ያምርብኛል መሽኮርመም:-)
            ፈጣን መድሃኒት ነው ላ’ንገቱ ሕመም

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ፀሎቴ ተሰማ አልቀረም የትም ባክኖ
            ኃይሌም ተመልሷል ከጠፋበት በኖ

            ግድየለም ተሽኮርመም ሁሉም ያምርብሃል
            ቶሎ መለስ በል ራሥ ይናፍቅሃል

          • Hashela

            Abi
            For the first you proved your usefulness.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            ገንዘብካ

          • Haile S.

            ጀታው፡

            “ኣምሮብሻል ኣምሮብሻል የኦሪስ ስዓት ኣስረሻል” የሚለው የድሮ ማስታወቅያ (ረክላም) ኣስታወስከኝ!

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ይህ ማስታወቂያ አምልጦኛል:: በኔ ጊዜ የነበረው ማስታወቂያ የቡና ነበር::
            የኢኮኖሚ ዋልታ ቡና ቡና
            የገቢ ምንጫችን ቡና ቡና
            የእድገታችን ገንቢ ቡና ቡና….

            እንዲህ እያለ ይቀጥልና የእለቱ የቡና ዋጋ ይነገረናል
            ታጥቦ የተቀሸረ አንደኛ ደረጃ የኤርትራ ቡና በፈረሱላ….

          • Saleh Johar

            ኣንታ ሃይለ ዝብሉኻ ሰብኣይ:
            ሰሙን ብኩራት እዛ ደብተር ብቀይሕ መይሕ ስርዝ መሊኣ: absent, absent! ክሳብ 2021 ዕረፍትኻ ወዲእካ’ለኻ

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile

            Did you notice that sensing our desperate situation Missionary Abi immediately came with the Bible!

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Hashela,

            Frankly, being an atheist and a bible savvy of only the chapter & numbers I need to derail someone on a given moment :-), I didn’t pay attention to the tour de Babel Abi brought. Anyway based on the present discussions, we seem to have already fallen off the Babel 20 years back and speaking different tongues ever since. Ras Abi is alerting us to find turgumens or women to help us converse properly.
            Having said that, despite wishful thinking from those who look to paralyse us madly, but conditionally with love, we are still standing. Our political elites and economists are finally talking to each other and planning for the aftermath, which is Excellent! It is hoped they will be more inclusive Internally and ESPECIALLY of the YOUNG and the RESTLESS.

            Just a word to Saleh GJ, ዕንኩርዕንኩሪተይ ኣሳሕያትኒ’ሲ ክሓካ ክብል ኣቚሲለያ እየ ካብ ክላስ ጠፊኤ። ወለድቲ ቀደም ስለዝኸዱ፡ ጸውዓዮም እንተተባሂለ ንዓኻ ሒዘ ክኸይድ ኣፍቅደለይ። ጸጉረይ እኳ ካብ ናትካ ይጽዕዱ። ግና ብተወሳኺ’ውን ቀይሕ ስለዝኾንኩ፡ ብቑልዕነተይ ብቐዓዮይ caza caza ክንጻወት፡ ካብ ሓንቲ መዘናይ ጥልያን እየ ወሊደዮ፡ ናይ ኣዲኡ ወሲዱ እንተበልካዮም ክሰምዑኻ’ዮም።
            የቐንየለይ
            ገንዘብካ à l’Abi

          • Abi

            Hashela
            Bringing Genesis generously was a genius:)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Gambling is about the probability of winning as well as losing.

            You did not like to gamble about the Derg system because you were happy with it. Enough said!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Was Derg elected by the people? Is Derg the best government people deserve? Does Derg have a divine right to stay in power for eternity? Do people have the right to revolt against the Derg, although this is an act of gambling whose outcome is uncertain?

          • Paulos

            Simon,

            Dergue was a Provisional Government. We certainly are getting ahead of ourselves though for the Dergue was meant to be a pawn in the cutthroat struggle for power between Me.E.So.N and EPRP when the former made a tactical alliance with the Dergue to eliminate the latter to the extent of forming a political party known as ኢማለድህ.

            The tactical alliance turned deadly later on when Mengistu turned on both the feuding parties when he snatched the mantle of power of the bunch of snobs who didn’t think of him much.

            The Provisional Government morphed into a political party when the Soviets insisted that with out a vanguard party the deal with them was as good as moot and hence the birth of Ethiopian Workers Party.

            The King may have tried to gain legitimacy through Divine Rights in tandem with a deep rooted mythology but Mengistu gained legitimacy through a populist ethos as in Land to the Tiller and Ethiopian Socialism as well. If the said evolution could be divided into the Founders, The Golden Age and The Break-Down, the last stage could be said to have been caused by his erratic policy on Eritrea. Mingistu was a soldier and saw the world as a soldier but sadly in the end he left Ethiopia unbecoming of a soldier.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Paulos,

            What you wrote does not answer my questions.

            Good bye.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            They are all Eritreans and Derg didn’t produced them. So I don’t know why you are giving Derg the credit.

            Derg never brought civil servants, engineers, doctors, business people, etc. to build the country. He send people to oppress and rule the people. Like ወታደር፡ አስራ አለቃ፡ መቶ አለቃ፡ ደህንነት፡ የአማርኛ መምህርና የፖሎቲካ መምህር፡፡

            Yes, there are doctors, engineers, teachers and many professional Eritreans doing all they can with little help they have from the evil dictator who is just like the Derg who wants to rule and oppress the people.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            These days you seem to read that is not there particularly in my comments. What I say is clear devoid of any sinister motives between the lines as the cliche has it.

            I am not giving the Dergue credit and no where I said, Dergue produced the health professionals I mentioned. If anything however, the system was conducive particularly for the foreign nationals to provide their services with a sense of ease.

            Remember, in 1974 when Dergue took over, 100,000 Italians left Eritrea for fear of retribution and those who opted to stay behind took their chances and it turned out they remained unscathed to the extent of extracting favours through bribes from high ranking Dergue military personnel. They all had and led a great life when Dergue was in power. Of course, the big infrastructures as in Baratolle and Melloti were nationalized but those who owned small businesses were left alone. And compare that with the kind of life Italians live under Isaias’ Eritrea.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I know what you mean and if you are comparing Derg and Isayas, then I agree, it was much better. But you comment sounds to me as if Derg has brought those professionals and I am stating that the only thing the Derg brought were ጦር ሰራዊት.

            The Italian professionals were also Eritreans, they didn’t come from Italy. They probably went to Italy to get their doctorate but they are the product of those Eritrean Italians who made Eritrea their home.

            Derg was brutal, there is nothing good that come be said about him. And Isayas is worst…

            I just can’t stand people like Abi to tell us that, Derg was better for us,he did this for us or that for us.

            I am pretty sure, all the teachers you had with the exception of Amharic teacher were Eritreans or some Tigrayans.

            Dergi was ደንቆሮ and nothing good comes out from ደንቆሮ except ድንቅሩና፡፡

            Asmara University was stuffed and run by Eritreans. With Derg or not Derg, Eritreans are capable of creating their own university and institutions.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            It doesn’t really matter what Abination says or feels about the Dergue for the facts are there. Eritrea was highly militarized for there were over 100,000 Dergue soldiers stationed in Eritrea not to see law and order enforced but to suffocate and subjugate the Eritrean people against their will. That is the fact! But if the question arises in comparison with Isaias, the facts have to be stated as well where the latter is worse.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            People like Abi are telling you the truth. If you can’t stand them , you can always hide behind ዘራፍ ዘራፍ.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I like this word I don’t know what it means
            “ ante zim bleh mn tiqabaTraleh”

            Derg/Mengie is in Zimbabwe hiding like the gorilla for the last years.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Paul
            The No nonsense leader of Eritrea and his decisive actions and visionary leadership will Make Eritrea Great Again!
            MEGA !!!

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            All credits go to Abyotawi derg.
            During the derg time you had an internationally accredited university that produced thousands of world class professionals.
            Again, All credits go to Abyotawi derg.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Internationally accredited?

            F

          • Abi

            Simon
            Those higher learning institutions you just googled accepted AAU graduates for postgraduate studies with no problems.
            You are blinded by inferiority complex with no hope for cure.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Your thick skull assumes everyone googles for information like you do.

            News for you: I knew about these institutions long before the Internet and WWW were invented.

            Can you give an example of an Ethiopian from AAU who studied at Gottingen or ETH Zurich?

            Two departments, Mathematics and Physics, I know at AAU: their syllabi are not only narrow and lack depth, but they have not changed for the last 70 years.

            By talk of inferiority complex, you are trying to project your problem onto me.

          • Abi

            Simon
            Cool down Mr clown.
            You can find numerous AAU graduates in almost every major colleges and universities throughout the world.
            The same applies to those former Asmara university graduates.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Again, you are projecting your issue onto me. It is you who is a well known clown on this forum.

            Most AAU and UoA graduates go to 2nd or 3rd tier Universities abroad and do well, not because AAU and UoA are top notch Universities, it is because these students have learnt how to work hard under difficult conditions [bad lecturers, much fewer books and other resources] and survive in their home countries.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረ:
            ናይ ዶክተር ይትባረኽ መዓንጣ ሕጽብቲ ያ ኔራ። ኣብ መካነ-ሂወት ውሩይ ዶክተር ‘ዩ ኔሩ።
            ነዞም ራሻውያን ዶካትር ጌሩ ዝንዕቆም ዝነበረ። ንዕቀቱ ድማ ኣብ ገጹ ይገልጸሎም ኔሩ።

          • Paulos

            ኢንጂኔረ,

            Very true but there were two Physicians with similar names–ይትባረኽ and ይባርኽ where the former practiced at መካነ-ሂወት and the latter at ኢናይል.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረ:
            ሓቅኻ ግን ኢናይል ደኣ ብጎቦ ዓይንና ርኢና ጥራይ ንሓልፎ ኔርና።
            ‘ንዳ ሲላስ ጥራይ ይዝክር።
            ሰብ ግሩሻት ከምዝ ከምኻ ጥራይ ‘ዮም ኢናይል ዘዝውትሩ [‘ንተ ሓሚሞ ማለተይ ዩ] 🙂

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,

            You and I know how Abi wind up people. He only needs one or so words to go on a rampage. I knew what it was coming when I used the word Dergue. The geezer needs two words— Dergue and HS— to launch his jibe.

            Talking about the Silla’s family, if I am not mistaken, all their children were medical doctors.

            Lately, I have learned that the family name is their mother’s name (Silas). Their father decided not to use his family as he was a prominent political figure during the Mussolini’s reign.

            The other day, he mentioned that he read a novel, written in Italian. I guessed you knew Italian, but not to the extent of reading literature. Did you attend Scuola Italia (Principe), or self-thought?

            You should also know the dentist ( I think his name is Dr Srur). He had an office on the top of Bar America, or somewhere around the area. You must be Wedi Mama.

          • Paulos

            Selam David,

            Me Wedi Mama? Funny. Far from it. You are right I remember the Dentist but I doubt if his name was Dr. Srur [A guy with an old yellow Opel car or American Sedan.] As for the Sillas, I suspect it was a legend rumored about their last names. They both were celebrities in their own right particularly the younger for he had the good looks but the older seemed always drunk with red shot eyes barely able standing still. I wonder who had taken their places for the celebrity status. Generals Philipos, Manjus and Abraha Kassa? Perhaps.

          • Dongolo

            Selam David Samson. Paulo’s list of physicians in Asmara during the Derg is far off the mark. Feo was not a Doctor of Dentistry (he never went to university) but rather served as an assistant for years to Italian dentist who passed away; he then took over the business. Johnny Silla (the youngest brother) was not a Doctor for he ran a printing press in town.

          • Abi

            Hello Dongolo
            Glad to see you again. Missed your insider info.