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Eritrean Case: Theory of Internal Colonialism

Before we jump into the discussion of internal colonialism, it’s necessary to pave a way for it with an overview of formal/external colonialism due the close relationship and commonalities between them.

A great number of authors and writers – including Eritreans – dealt with external/formal colonialism in detail and studied it’s effects and suffering that is caused to the colonised people. That’s because it was an unambiguous, unmistakable phenomenon–they amplified and described it. In fact they described it with the ugliest and the most terrible traits because the colonists relied on the use of violence and force to control people’s breath. They violated their rights and freedoms, trampled on their dignity, seizing their capabilities, plundering their goods, killing their children, and raping their women. They treated them as animals that are used for heavy labour without paying any attention to their health and human condition.

Types of colonisation

Although it revolves around two main types (external & internal), astronomers and some scholars have classified colonialism into four overlapping types:

  1. Settler colonialism: a people from one nation go off to live in another country where they build settlements, till the soil, and harvest natural resources. The British colonists who made new homes in North America in the 1600s and Australia in the late 1700s are examples of settler colonialism. (2)
  2. Exploitation colonialism: in contrast, this didn’t require as many colonists to emigrate because the native people are allowed to stay where they were — especially if they could be pressed into the service as workers.
  3. Surrogate colonialism: a colonial power encourages one ethnic group or groups from the colonized country to take over the land previously controlled by another group. This term was first used by anthropologist Scott Atran to describe the British allowing Zionist settlement in Palestine.
  4. Internal colonialism: the strongest part of a country might exploit another, less powerful regions or peoples. For instance in Sri Lanka, the Tamil population felt the Sinhalese majority oppressed them — that resulted in a decades-long war between the Sri Lankan government and the terrorist  Tamil Tigers group. [sources: Mick, Atran, Sathananthan] (1). We will see if the internal colonialism type can be applied into our country’s (Eritrea) current situation.(3)

When we look at internal colonialism, the authors and writers didn’t give it the level of attention as they did with the external colonialism. The form of internal colonialism we are talking about is a theory that seeks to explain how inequality and domination are maintained in a society when there is necessarily no foreign ruling power.

Nowadays (postcolonial), many countries continue the practice of favouring one group over another,  whether it is ethnic, linguistic, religious, regional, or cultural. As a result, we see numerous conflicts being caused in party by dominant groups enacting and enforcing governmental, economic, political, and other social policies that distribute resources unequally among their nation’s members.(4)

What is the difference then, between external and internal colonialism, other than mastering the language of rhetoric in exercising the discourse of revolution against colonialism, or the greed of resistance and facing occupation without substance and against the reality? The killing, imprisonment, slavery, looting, torture and contempt remains the same.

From my point of view the term ‘internal colonialism’ applies to the Eritrean current situation because it covers all the above mentioned elements that make up the term.

It’s no secret that the regime of the ruling group in Eritrea that is restricting the freedom of other sects by undermining their traditions, trade, languages, religion, educational and political systems, and constrains their development.

Indications of internal colonialism in Eritrea

Although the Eritrean society is a multi-cultural, multi-lingual, multi-ethnic and multi-religious society, only one of these components controls almost all the state resources while the crumbs are thrown to the rest of the society.

The manifestations of internal colonialism in Eritrea are:

  1. The poverty and underdevelopment in some regions within the state, through the creation of a better work environment, providing (as much as possible) the required resources and developing the infrastructure, but not in other regions.
  2. Establishing a specific culture in a multicultural society such as imposing a specific language (Tigrinya) on a multilingual society, or granting religious privileges to a group in a multi-religious society, such as empowering Christians on Muslim lands.
  3. Unfair distribution of power which leads to disruption of social development.
  4. Inequality in educational opportunities by granting more than 95% of scholarship grants to study abroad to the ruling group members, while other ethnicities are excluded even from entering the university though they have the needed entering requirements, on the pretext that the system needs them as teachers of mother languages, and they are sent to the Teachers Training Institute against their desire.
  5. Unequal job opportunities: Other ethnic groups systematically suffer from higher unemployment rates compared to their counterparts from the ruling group. For example, the number of employees of the ruling group in the state ministries reached 95%,, which indicates that the benefits are distributed unequally. This impact on the labour market is a result of unfair educational opportunities that is mentioned above.

It’s also much more dangerous than formal/external colonialism, because:

Formal colonialism is well recognised globally and it’s no longer acceptable and highly restricted (post-colonial period); its unlawfulness has been included in the United Nations treaties.

While the case with internal colonialism wasn’t broadly defined or widely recognised by the historians and sociologists as it’s in the case with formal colonialism, it’s not universally known and the United Nations Organisation has not yet recognised its existence.

Moreover, formal colonialism is such a wound in the human body, whoever sees it sympathizes with and provides support and advice to the affected. Therefore, it’s much easier to treat and get rid of its effects.
While an internal colonialism is similar to cancer due to its invisibility, others won’t know of its existence, or feel the suffering it causes to the suffering, thus could not offer sympathies, support, or advice.

Even if the colonised raise their voices to explain their case to international community, it may be considered an internal matter or rebellion because the colonists frequently carry out counter-propaganda to conceal the truth, deceive the local and international public, and hide under the garment of patriotism.

Also, unlike external colonialism , it can hide under the cloak of patriotism, deceiving and misleading the masses through revolutionary rhetoric, propaganda focusing on national security. They also fabricate charges of treason, and accuse people of dealing and communicating with the enemy to justify their punishment, their exile or disappearance.

Finally, understanding historical colonialism and its interpretations not only helps us understand the current circumstance and sufferings of some groups within one state–those suffering from internal colonialism as a result of the domination of ethnic, class or religious groups over others, and the deprivation of their rights, freedoms, and inequality. But also it helps us develop a framework that provides a solution to the problem at the national, regional and international levels. Therefore, this issue deserves an attention of sociologists, historians and politicians in order to reach the desired goal – at the lowest cost- to a more egalitarian and peaceful world.

Note: This is for those who believe that Eritrea is a free country because they are unable to distinguish between freedom and independence. And they don’t realize that the citizen of Eritrea was much better off in the era of colonialism than it is now. Be free and learn to say no, when necessary.

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(1)  D, Dey. “Internal colonialism”. September 2014 

2) D Lloyd &P Wolfe. Settler colonial logics and the neoliberal regime. 2015,

3) PATRICK J. KIGER,

4) Marker, Sandra. “Effects of Colonization.” Beyond Intractability. Eds. Guy Burgess and Heidi Burgess. Conflict Information Consortium, University of Colorado, Boulder. Posted: November 2003

5) Lamonte Aidoo, Daniel F. Silva · 2013 · Literary Criticism

 

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  • MebrahtuLight

    Hello people,

    The problem with Eritrean politics is Muslim elites, especially Beni Ame elites, have been behaving like Agazians long before Agazians showed up to match their intensity and arrogance. For a long time, they demanded an alien language like Arabic in an attempt to colonize and subdue Tigrinya linguistically and politically. They demanded to have their way politically or they would demand for a Beja state (fake bluff, as even the Hadendoa/Bejas have united to fight against Beni Amers).They baptized Gash Barka as Muslim land even though the land was mostly liberated and defended with the blood of Tigrinya martyrs. They refuse to send their daughters to defend Eritrea, putting more burden on Tigrinya people. They refuse to pay their fair share of taxes, even though most of Eritrea’s meager resources goes to subsidize their way of living. Despite all this, they demand to have equal power with the Tigrinya. The arrogance of their elites knows no bounds.

    But why?

    Tigrinya people live in a fantasy. They think apologizing for imagined crimes, turning the other cheek, policing their thoughts and the opinions of other Tigrinya people will win them over with the extremist elites. It is insane. One elite is behaving like extremists, the other elites are pretending they are more Muslims than Muslims themselves.

    There is a clear absence in Tigrinya peoples real opinions. Here let me spell it out for you: we do not want fake unity. In fact, more than any group in the region, Tigrinya people are better off on their own. They, along with the Jeberti of Eritrea, are the most educated people in the Horn of Africa. Tigrinya people do not want, nor need Arabic, Muslim land, and other hokus pokus nonsense. You take away Tigrinya people from Eritrea and Eritrea will become ungovernable. Muslim unity in Eritrea is based on resisting Tigrinya people. You remove Tigrinya and calls for Arabic will disappear.

    The other fantasy in Eritrea in that Muslims are united. That is not true. Tigre people do not and have not liked Beni Amers. They have real historical grievances with them. Ditto for the Bilen and Kunama. Beni Amers and Tegaru people are facing the most enemies in our region. The only thing uniting Eastern Sudan right now is their hatred for Beni Amers. In Eritrea, the hatred is subdued because Tigre people are at peace that Tigrinya people are in the driver seat, even with Isaias brutal communism wrecking havoc on them. You throw Beni Amers in the driver seat and all of sudden, Eritrea will experience the emergence of clanism like Somalia. The Bet Asgade Confederation will be back at war with the Beni Amer Confederation.

    The best and sober thing we can do is give independence to the Tigrinya people. I guarantee you, once the threat of Islamic rule is removed from the heads of Tigrinya farmers, Isaias would be thrown into a taxi trunk and never found again. Their fear of Islamic rule is whats keeping Isaias in power today. That is the secret no one wants to say among Tigrinya people. All this talk of Arabic, Muslim lands and etc, only helps Isaias stay in power longer. It feeds into the fears of Tigrinya people that their identity and heritage will be snuffed out by people who have long forfeited theirs.

    In conclusion, no more fake unity. Tigrinya people must seek independence. Isaias can easily be taken out if Tigrinya people get passed the real fear of Islamic colonization out of their system.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam said,

    Oh boy, the problem I have engaging with you is:
    1) You completely misunderstand what I said and go ballistic.

    2) You smother and kill me with your avalanche of words complete with unrelated historical antidotes.

    Assuming you are a black Eritrean AND assuming the economic differences taken out, where would you choose to live among the ordinary people ?

    !) Saudi Arabia
    2) Argentina
    3) Algeria
    4) USA

    Answer it to yourself, I don’t want another diatribe.

    Mr. K.H

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam KH,

      Said’s method of opening the floodgates to drown the reader is well known.

      His description of the Japanese as loving and kissing is very touching indeed. He needs to ask allied POWs, the Chinese and the Koreans about the brutality, starvation, ethnic erasing, deadly medical experiments on humans the Japanese did in countries they occupied during WW2.

      The Japanese are still militantlly racists, but thanks to the Americans they have been neutered and defanged. Now, they can only watch other wars on their Sony TV.

      Countries I don’t want to live at:

      Germany – I can’t trust them
      Eastern Europe – still too raw
      Muslim majority countries – propensity for religiously motivated violence, always volatile.

      • said

        Selam SK
        Your respond to KH to me ,in implying ,it was necessary for American ,to make a swift action ,it was needed to Bomb Japanese people on 6 and 9 August 1945, dropped it on the first city of Hiroshima and a second one was dropped three days later, again on a city Nagasaki with all those living people in it , Surely civilian, those innocent people hadn’t been in the Japanese army and that it was a good thing. If the Americans had not shown their full military strength, the Japanese would never have surrendered – they were far too arrogant and proud. Japanese should feel good and happy about freedom gained at the cost of so much death and misery, those died soon after the explosion, and tens of thousands who survived for years and developed cancer, leukaemia and other diseases – not forgetting all the innocent babies born with defects. So dropping those atomic bombs was the only way to save Japanese people their lives – right then on 6 and 9 August 1945. The suffering of vast numbers of Japanese had counted for nothing for you .You are one of kind. that you would not want to have such a nightmare on your dead conscience, may be you having mental suffering,
        Any war you worry who was still alive, and who was not? Who had survived the war; Eritrean went through this for 30 years . Had our people really had to suffer so terribly. Eritrean people that had been killed in many horrible way . We had got the message. Japanese emperor had been so kind and magnanimous as to end the war in order to prevent further bloodshed unfortunately that had not been possible. The ‘atomic bomb’so destructive in its force that hundreds of thousands of people had been killed. and dying in agony, most of the city was in ruins, and no-one had survived. The bomb – had been dropped from a plane by the Americans on Japanese, Yellow people ,it had something to do with it or test the atomic bomb

    • Nitricc

      2) Argentina

      Hi Kim; I don’t mind living in Argentina! a country of Beautiful and daring women.

  • saay7

    Selamat all:

    I haven’t scrolled the entirety of the comments, but from what I read so far, exactly 0.00% of the comments have anything to do with the article.

    I really thought that at the very least this would present a treat to our friend Emma and all former Tegadeltis because a lot of our cadres of the 1960-1970s 1980s were trying to answer the question of how Ethiopia (black, non-European, non-industrial) could be considered a colonial force in Eritrea.

    Saay

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Saay,

      Glad to see you back, and hopefully you will stay with us. You are one of the few we have, who could generate debate either by bringing contrarian views or new ideas. I hope Haile-TG and Hayat Adem to re-emerge and join us to see a meaningful debate.

      On the issue how Ethiopia could be considered a colonial force in Eritrea: At least ELFites tackled against the classical argument Ethiopian elites, by characterizing our situation as “special colony” to differentiate from the classical definition of colony. This article actually went further to explain the various kind of colonizations that include “internal colonialism” to illustrate our realities. New Ideas develop with new circumstance and along with it our perceptions and understanding changes naturally. The author of this article contribute something to that effect.

      Regards

    • Consolation

      Hello saay,

      The article got the treatment it deserves.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam saay7,

      I am glad to see you back again at your university.
      We were discussing all forms of colonialism and an aspect of colonialism, slavery became the students most beloved topic.

      I am one of the guilty party who is justifying his deeds.
      I sincerely hope you show up now and then when things go too much to one side.

      Mr. K.H

    • Kokhob Selam

      Selama Saay 7,

      We miss you gentle and smart man..We need you to part of this debate….

      KS,,

    • Ismail AA

      Hayak Allah Ustaz Saleh,

      Nice to have back and happy Eid Al-Adha.

      You have it damn right. Drifting from substances and contents of mostly serious and well-written articles has become chronic problem. Reminder from readers nor measures taken by the managers could improve the situation. Shifting discussions to side issues has been regrettably unfair to writers who invest precious time in researching and writing their products.

      The cause, in my view, is that this forum is visited by people with diverse aims and interests. There are persons who come in to express their views, and there by try to learn and contribute; there are others who have nothing to learn or contribute, and just log in kill their time; there are others who come in to stay in ambush and throw a a couple of lines and try to play as resident jesters; and there are yet others who visit to defend the regime right or wrong.

      Thus, it is like a fallen buffalo and different species of predators biting at the carcass and pulling in different directions. Sir, it has become hard-to-manage culture. Good heavens support the moderators.

      • Consolation

        Selam,

        You dislike the diversity you listed. You seem to be in favour of forcing discussion to conform to your standards. If the moderators were to agree with you, then the comment section of such a nonsensical article about internal colonialism in Eritrea would be empty. The author of such an article has only himself to blame for wasting his time. You see, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. A good topical article would generate quality discussion. A lousy article, no matter how attractive the presentation, will be ignored. Momentous events are taking place in the region and the author thinks his selected subject to be topical. It isn’t. Let someone write an article about Mesfin Hagos dreaming about marching to Eritrea on Weyane coat-tails and see what the discussion would be.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Consolation,

          I usually hesitate to engage with people who come here with virtual names – that is unless they justify it for reasons made known to the managers of this forum. Anyway, you are trying, wittingly or otherwise, to force on the forum what you are accused me of. No writer or contributors embarks on writing an article with prior consultation with Consolation, Ismail or anyone else. He/she does the job for reasons that persuade him/here to write his ideas and want to place them here before readers. One can express views in a civil way without show of arrogance on the substance or contents of the articles.

          The article you despised as “lousy” up and grace us with an average standard quality. Anyway, sir, your right to voice your views (without wounding anyone) ends where the right of others begin.

          About “39th year of the collapse of the ELF” and your expressed desire some one to write about it, I suggest back to you. and please try to write something on it. Why do you want ELF cadres to do it for you? I hope you are enlightened and objective compatriot who aspires to know accurate account about past events. If you would ever do that, I am sure you would find out whether the ELF had “collapsed” just like that, or was a victim of treasonous group (actually one person) ELF members thought were fellow compatriots.

          • Consolation

            Selam Ismail,

            I assure you I was being generous when I characterized an article which asserts that there is internal colonialism in Eritrea as lousy. There are a lot of other adjectives that come to my mind. I never said anyone should consult me before they write. But anyone who spends hours and days writing an article should have the judgment about whether what he/she is writing is sensible. Putting forward a thesis which proposes that there is colonialism in Eritrea is nonsensical and not many people are going to waste their time to debate the matter.

            I want you to write your own true history so that you might exorcise the demon that has destroyed your lives. Former ELF cadres holding their conferences in Gondar was one of the most painful episodes in our history. I doubt that an intelligent person like revels in that fact especially now that your 40 year quest to erase from the map the Eritrea that Shaebia liberated has ended up in total defeat!

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Consolidation,

            I do not think wasting even minutes with willingly incorrigible individuals is worthwhile. But one thing before I am done with you. Yes, I was at Gonder, but will free conscience because I did not share trenches with with a foreign force to shoot and kill my own compatriots. I do not have blood of my brothers and on my hand. The man you defend (I do not say you worship) does; and you of course by association or direct involvement.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam consolation,

          Ahm! ELF is collapsed? The politics of ELFites will never be collapsed. But,, but you know the history, consolation. In case you have a memory lapses, here it is: when your organization can not do it alone to push out ELF from the field, you conspire with TPLF – the organization that made you to scream out day in day out like a hopeless wounded dog. How about that.

          • Consolation

            Selam AH,

            No I don’t know the true factors that led to the collapse of the ELF. Of course, it has been convenient for its cadres to blame it on the EPLF and TPLF. Really? If the EPLF could deal such a devastating defeat, what do you think the Derg would have done with a Red-star like campaign against the ELF. Most of the cadres who have been grumbling the past 40 years would not have been able to run to the Sudan. No my friend, there are far more serious reasons for the collapse of the ELF and they have to do with its internal disorganization. Who ordered every unit of the ELF to retreat to the Barka region from every corner of Eritrea? Why couldn’t you stand your ground? Why did you have to abandon most of your weapons and retreat? Who was leading the organization? There are hundreds of such questions and people like you instead of presenting the true history have, as I said, found it convenient to blame it on the EPLF, As a consequence, you have wasted 40 years chasing a mirage. Had the ELF cadres done a proper and correct analysis you wouldn’t have been blundering the way you have! You blame the EPLF and TPLF, yet, you have become footmen of the TPLF against Eritrea. How pathetic!

          • Paulos

            Consolation,

            Independent Eritrea would have been better of under ELF as opposed to a fascist organization PFDJ which is a cartel of a sadistic old man who has turned Eritrea into what we know today. Certainly ELF was defeated but it’s ideals persist and live-on precisely because it corrected its early pitfalls till it morphed into a progressive and inclusive force.

          • Consolation

            Paulito,

            What you should concentrate on is the slow and excruciating demise of your TPLF friends. The other day, I told you about the split within the ranks of the thugs and that Debretsion is under the thump of the murderer Getachew Asseffa. In fact, credible sources are reporting that Debretsion has refused to put his signature on any statement which the cabal issues. The rapidly developing events makes me doubt that the TPLF would last a month. So what is to become of the people who have invested so much emotional and political capital on the thieves? The Tigrayan journalist Araya Tesfamariam has conducted a third interview with Fana which I recommend to you. Believe me, I am only trying to help you to disengage emotionally. Don’t get caught unawares. Your ELF friends would tell you, if they were honest, that their organization never recovered after the Derg surge in 1978-79. The leaders and cadres had concluded that the Eritrean struggle for independence was not winnable and were flirting with lesser goals such as regional autonomy. In other words, the ELF was already a defeated organization when the EPLF pushed them out of Eritrea in 1981. Similarly, you TPLF friends are already a defeated gang.

          • Paulos

            Sure thing fratello. Sure thing.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Consolation,

            it would have been nice if you stopped after the “No I don’t know the true factors that led to the collapse of the ELF.”

            Please don’t fall in the trap of underestimating the powers that were arrayed in the sad episode–directly or indirectly. But remember, if not for that betrayal, the Badme debacle wouldn’t have happened and today, many of the victims would been alive. Also, try to find the Saudi and Sudanese alliance that helped in the attack to liquidate the ELF which was full of erstwhile leftists at Atbara, a railway town that was home to one of the biggest communist parties in the world. The workers’ union there was a threat to the regional right wing oligarchies, particularly to the Jaafer AlNumeiri regime. Numeiri considered the ELF an enemy because it was closely allied to Atbara.

            Finally, a dubious stab on the back is always deadly–remember the history of Julius Caesar, ““Et tu, Brute”!
            I hope you believe me when I say this; “The local partisan narrations are mostly dishonest and very simplistic. I think you shouldn’t simplify it that much.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Condolation,

            If You believe that ELF was eaten of its internal contradiction, EPLF wouldn’t sent SOS signals for TPLF help in North Eastern Denkel, on South Western Gash around Badme, and central region of Barka. You wouldn’t defeat** ELF and Derg without the help of TPLF. That is in history books. Even if you deny it behind pen name, it won’t change that negative part of Eritrean history.

            ** winning battles is different than winning the war. The war against ELF and Derg was won by the joint forces of TPLF and EPLF. Nothing was won one without the other. Fact.

      • Hashela

        Selam Ismail

        I agree with you that forumers must maintain some degree of civility when articulating their opinion. Furthermore, reigning notoriously unruly individuals should not only remain an unpleasant job of the moderators but that of the participants instead voting up their tirades.

        Other than that the diversity you listed and you seem to complain about is what makes this great forum great, sometimes in a painful way. We must accept and be able to live with views and opinions we don’t necessarily agree with. A narrow and homogeneously populated valley where one hears only his own echo should not be the goal here.

        • Paulos

          Selam Hashela,

          You may find it surprising but sometimes I do agree with you fully where your comment is case in point. And that was the first time perhaps for a good reason that I read Kbur Haw Ismail AA sort of losing his cool.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Dr. Paulos,
            All I am trying to suggest is fairness to those who write and post articles. You and me know the rigor in the backdrop of severe constraint of time that goes in to the production. I am not really angry or weakening my cool, as you put it. It is common interest to show fairness to our authors.

      • Haile S.

        ሰላማት እስማዒል፡

        ኣብ ዓወተ ዝጽሓፍ ጽሒፍቲ
        ንዑ ጸበል ጥዓሙ መኽፈልቲ

        ቤተኽስያን ዘጽበሐ ኣማኒ ይዛረብ ብዛዕባ ውራይ
        ኣርፊዱ ዝመጸ ይዛረብ ብዛዕባ ስዋ ጽራይ

        ገሊኡ የድንቕ ኣብየት ከመይ ዘ’ለ መኹባዕቲ!
        ገሊኡ ኣብ ዓዲ ሰብ-ገዛ ዝበቁል ኩዕንቲ

        ገሊኡ የልዕል ናይ ጎረቤቱ በዓለ ዝክር
        ውራይ ማለት! እናበለ ይፍክር

        ኣቡነ-ዓወተ ጸበሉ ኣይጋደፈና
        እንተዘየሕወየ የዘናግዓና

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Ismail AA,

        This post of yours is the illustration of the working of the Awate University, isn’t it. Your legitimate, nevertheless unworkable, suggestion to stick with the article at hand brought out different views. That is the way these “hijackings” take place. My interest group at least has a member of 1 but I suspect maybe more.

        I came here a long time ago oddly enough following saay from “?vis Afrique”, something like that, reading his articles, before, during and after the 1998–2000 war.
        That man, as you know, can talk a cat away from dairy. I came here to read and be informed. That all changed when I read some of the commentaries.
        So my self appointed “job” became to read the comments and correct the record, show the errors of their ways, defend Ethiopia using an eye for an eye approach with different commentators.
        Johar few times intervened to say take it easy or else.

        I think if we follow your suggestion with an additional guideline or so, the Awate University might change its status to a different unknown format.
        I hope it stays the same within reason of course and wish for strength and tenacity for the moderators.

        Mr. K.H

    • Paulos

      Selam Sal,

      I wouldn’t agree with the notion that Ethiopia was a colonial force for Ethiopia had a legitimate historical facts to reclaim Eritrea back. That said however, Ethiopia doesn’t have the right to impose it’s will on people who opt to be on their own and that was precisely the reason the struggle for independence was a just cause. Welcome back!

    • Selamat Admiral,

      The twin justifications for the actions in progress are internal colonialism and dictatorship in Eritrea. The former being this thread and the latter is latest front page article in the form of a book review. Your sudden appearance is an indication to me that we have reached a point of not return.

      I could very well be wrong but I rather be wrong and proven wrong later than not speak of what I see is building up very quickly. The return of EPRDF2 inclusive of Eritrea what I see transpiring. The TPLF played possum for a long time and now their wrath on the region is forthcoming. Lets see at what cost the rein EPRDF2 will be achieved.

      GitSAtSE

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Saay,

      This silence is golden!

      I think this article would have started fire a few years ago. The silence probably is an indication of agreement with the author’s intent but wondering how to challenge the word “colonialism” without appearing unsympathetic to the core message conveyed.

      I don’t think any Eritrean would disagree if one states “Eritrea belongs to all Eritreans.” This innocent sounding statement is however problematic without clearly defined legal and social boundaries.

      Eritrea’s armed struggle for independence started geographically in the west (low land). The west became a battle ground, and no less than half a million were forced away from their lands and became refugees mostly in the Sudan.

      After independence, those refugees were unable to return to their homes and ancestral land. Interestingly, the main cause for not returning is the government’s infantile need to punish them for being or having been sympathetic to ELF by denying their repatriation.

      The extent western Eritrea’s suffering during the first half of the struggle is common knowledge. It is also a common knowledge that there are nearly half a million refugees in the Sudan alone who are mostly native to that section of Eritrea.

      Eritreans who were not native to the west were given plots of lands in the west for having been “a revolutionary” or for social/economic development/adjustment of sorts.

      The combination of land assignment to the highlander in the west and the refusal to repatriate the lowlander from the Sudan is what makes defining the phrase “colonialism” a very interesting challenge.

      So, my interpretation of the silence is that the audience relates with the author’s main message but is unsure on how to interpret “colonialism” without implying there are two or more distinct entities of Eritrea.

      PS:
      This is an excuse to say hello.

      • MebrahtuLight

        Hello Fanti,

        Who told you they were not able to return from Sudan? The main reason why most were not able to return was simply because Eritrea lacked the resources to bring them back. Moreover, many of them did not want to come back. The ones that had the means to come back already did. Many are still trickling in today (largely because the Hadandawa are pressuring them militarily and calling all Beni Amers Habesha settlers). So please end these fairy tales that the communist regime in Asmara was denying their return. That is a bold lie.

        As a reminder, at the height of its power, ELF was majority Tigrinya. For all the talk of ELF being popular among lowlander Muslims, they sure were not able to recruit Muslims to fight for ELF — even with Ethiopia targeting their communities. Why? Because Tigre, Kunama, Bilen and Hidareb have a healthy suspicion of Beni Amers (News flash: they still do).

        Eritrean highlands has absorbed a lot of Muslims the past 30 years. More Sahos are building homes in the highlands. More Tigre are moving to the highlands. I even met a Rashaida family living in Asmara. Are they settlers? Or are they Eritreans moving for better economic oppertunities in a land they feel belongs to everyone?

      • Ismail Ahmad

        Selam Fanti,

        No Eritrean on the side of fairness and justice would have put the matter better. Thank you. Those on the wrong side of fairness and justice loath anything that reminds them of injustice. You can, moreover, see how the terms “internal colonialism”, irrespective of the context and notion used, touched some of the regime loyalists.

      • Teodros Alem

        selam fanti
        Same argument can be said “adawa colonised tigrai” the displacements in enderta and other places, the settlers, the control of everything, poltics and other in tigrai…

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Saay,

      Welcome back.

      The Eritrea case was misdiagnosed as colonialism.

      Colonialism is when the colonizer, with no historical claim or connection with the colonized, takes over or replaces the means of production (farms, factories, mines, transportation etc.) of the colonized and reduces the indigenous population to slaves or second class subjects.

      This was not the case with Eritrea.

      It is more of a dispute over sovereignty about the land. Ethiopia claiming historical right and, later on, wrongfully abrogating the Eritrean parliament, while Eritrea rightly claiming the right of the ex-Italian colony to self determination.

      The current issue of Internal-colonialism is a fabrication. It is the Arabic language issue in disguise.

  • David Samson

    Selam Said,

    Come every four-years November, our airwaves are filled in and occupied by the USA election. Life has to pause and keep it on a shelf until the election day. I always dread it. I thought the Pandemic will spare us watching the candidates traveling through out the country. The entire USA must put in the quarantine for the rest of us to enjoy our airwaves, but the Ethio-Eri wanted to have their own version of the election on this site. It seems to me you are also on a mention to have your mini-USA election show on this site.

    • said

      Selam David,

      About four years ago ,i wrote number of comments on Us election You are absolutely right. I hope when the time is right and I am very eager that we establish some level of communication and understanding over my profound misgivings over western Europa ,Russia, China, American General World politics, foremost as relates to the Eri/Ethi and my concern is the Plight of the Eritrean people.
      The truth, as I have been following the US policies for decades yeas , I have totally lost faith in American politics and the American polity. The System is wrong and is very hard to fix.
      Thus, dialogue, , becomes useless. I have included below a selective number of my humble opinion as follows that highlight my thoughts and convictions of the issues, third world countries and China as relates to the US’ position on the issues.
      Besides, Famous Movie Producer Oliver Stone speaks his mind of an America system broken at the seams. Wesley Clarke, former head of US Central Command and former head of NATO attests to America’s insatiable appetite to warmongering.
      Only a new world order with America a equal and progressive player can salvage a most chaotic current world order.

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  • said

    Greeting

    My enthusiastic optimism and speculation Should Joe Biden Win the Elections!
    The top candidates for a vice presidential are two Black women Kamala Harris and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice

    To begin with, I strongly believe, judging on objective circumstances, that Joe Biden will win the next American Presidential elections in a Landslide victory come November 3rd, i.e. in three months from now. Equally, the prediction is easy to figure out

    That the Democrats will equally carry both Houses of Congress in a landslide victory with a comfortable majority in both the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. To give credence to my speculation, in Vox recent article Picking a woman running mate is already a smart political choice; for months, Biden has opened up a vast lead with women voters. A New York Times analysis of a slew of May and June polls found Biden 25 points ahead of President Donald Trump with women. More recent polls from the Washington Post, CBS, and Pew have found Trump still trailing Biden among women voters, albeit by narrower margins. The Post poll found Trump slightly behind Biden among white women — a group he won by 9 points in 2016 , of his top candidates are Black women, like Sen. Kamala Harris and former National Security Adviser Susan Rice.

    The London Financial Times published two days ago a report on the Elections Polls showing Joe Biden Significantly in the Lead over Donald Trump should the elections be held at the time of the publication of the report. The Financial Times Report on the Elections polls showed that if the elections were to be held two days ago, Joe Biden would win the elections with at least 308 Electoral College votes against 128 for President Donald Trump. A Presidential Candidate needs to win 270 Electoral College votes to win the elections. as all that a Presidential contender need is 270 Electoral College votes to win the elections. However, as 102 Electoral College votes representing remaining undecided states could go partially or fully to either of the two competing candidates, Joe Biden could very well end up at the final count of the votes, achieving a Landslide in excess of 360 Electoral College Votes. Texas and Ohio could go either way gaining a candidate 38 and 18 electoral college votes, respectfully. If they go Joe Biden’s way, they would significantly increase Biden’s Electoral College numbers to more than 365 votes out of the total electoral college votes of 538. Michigan and Wisconsin that upset the last Presidential Elections going exceptionally Republican tilting the balance marginally in favor of Donald Trump’s victory, along with Pennsylvania voting Republican for Donald Trump, appear this time around solidly backing Joe Biden with a comfortable double-digit margin in the Polls showing Joe Biden running ahead. As a matter of fact, Joe Biden could soon pick as a running mate candidate among different potential candidates the current Popular Michigan Democratic Governor, Ms. Gretchen Whitmer.

    The Three overriding determinant issues deciding the outcome of the next coming Presidential elections boil down to the following three important issues:
    1) The Coronavirus Pandemic is topping the list that shows Biden favorite in a double- digit lead over Donald Trump.

    Trump’s failure to control the Pandemic looks now likely to win Biden Florida and Arizona and possibly Georgia, three states run by Republican Governors which are at the epicenter of the Pandemic. In the last Presidential elections, Donald Trump won all the four states.
    2) The Economy, as Biden, surprisingly, is leading Donald Trump with one percentage point, 48% to 47%; and, finally,

    3) Race Relations, where, quite obviously, Joe Biden scores very high, is very well significantly in the lead. A Biden win with a landslide along with the US Congress turning Democrat by majority in both Houses, will sure mark a welcome departure, the birth of a new era that bodes well for the World Peace, World Security, the resumption of a co-operative and a more productive mode in multilateral international relations. In my humble view, should Joe Biden win the Presidency along with the Democrats wining a comfortable majority in both Houses of the U. S. Congress, President Biden will proceed on reform of American policies in a tangible manner, both at the domestic front and Internationally. Domestically Domestically, Joe Biden will proceed on a healing and on a damage control initiative over a wide gamut of important domestic issues that reached crisis levels that touch on economics, welfare and the restoration of healthier racial relations that are seriously causing profound damage, especially in the increasingly systematic harm caused to the U.S. minorities and the huge rifts and divides caused by the Trump Administration to the American society at large.
    Will see Joe Biden introduce as a President, especially if he has an American Congress voting on his side, a tax reform bill raising taxes on Capital Gain and Dividends; estate and inheritance taxes, along with increased taxes targeting individuals in certain high-income, high-wealth brackets, as well certain certain large very profitable corporations of the likes of Amazon, Google and Facebook. Simultaneously, President Biden would raise minimum wages to a $15 an hour while reintroducing a more affordable advanced version of the Obamacare system.
    Equally, on the domestic front, President Biden will immediately engage in reforms of the Medical Services System and the America Criminal Justice System, including engaging in serious efforts towards prison reforms. The Biden Administration is likely to nominate as a new Attorney General a candidate from the American minorities who is either a Black American or of the Hispanic community.
    President Biden is expected to cause a huge shift in the structure of the U.S. Budget cutting allocations to the Defense Budget in favor of increasing spending on social services and the American welfare programs. In this vein, President Biden would enter into new negotiations with the Russian Federation and the Republic of China to reach new Strategic Treaties over past Agreements that were either annulled outright or undermined by the Trump Administration that could help lower the pace of the Arms Race between these three superpowers. Furthermore, the Biden Administration would be expected to apply stricter regulations on the environment and in the financial markets. Foreign Policy & International Relations One would expect the Biden Administration to immediately start with serious efforts to restore political, security and economic relations with the United States’ traditional Allies, foremost the EU, Japan and South Korea, that were severely damaged during the populist nationalist drive of the Trump Administration. President Biden is likely to invite former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, a fine statesman, a close friend and a colleague of Joe Biden for decades, to again be in charge of the U.S. State Department or play a major role in restoring the United States’ severely damaged International Relations.
    John Kerry would be expected to recreate a badly gutted State Department rendered an empty shell under the 4-year isolationist rule of the Trump Administration. John Kerry, the original proponent and architect of the Iran Nuclear Deal, the JCPOA P5+1 Treaty, could very well engage, from the very start of the Biden Administration in immediate talks with Iran and the other signatories of the P5+1 JCPOA to put the Treaty back in force as it needs no further ratifications by neither the U.S. Congress nor the U.N. The Biden Administration will abandon many of the folly pet projects started by the Trump Administration, including the construction of the Separation Wall with Mexico and actively engage in restoring amicable relations with neighboring Mexico and Canada, including the restoration of an acceptable by all new version of NAFTA. This, in tandem with engaging in serious public debate and the possible enaction of new policies Immigration Reforms that could pass more comfortable by a Congress with Democrats majority. As with regard to the U.S. Government’s traditional support of the United Nations and the U.N.’s various organs including the Human Rights Commission, the Biden Administration will likely put things back in place that the Trump Administration in this regard terribly dismantled. The Biden Administration is equally likely to restore the American Administration’s support of the other Supranational Organizations, foremost the WTO, the WHO as well as the works of the U.N. International Criminal Court and the U.N. International Court of Justice. Furthermore, the Biden Administration will immediately region the Paris Climate Agreement. As with regard to Russia and China, the Biden Administration that will be overwhelmed with domestic challenges and economic issues need immediate attentions that are worsened by the lingering Coronavirus Pandemic, will concentrate more on the domestic issues and avoid escalation of international crises with the U.S.’ main rivals Russia and China.
    The Biden Administration will likely try to forge better working relations with both superpowers in order to lower political and security tensions in the world with both of these superpowers, as instead, the Biden Administration will likely seek to solving important defense issues with the Chinese and the Russians as well as engage in serious talks with these powers to finding solutions to hotspot regions of the world, foremost Syria, Libya and Yemen. However, all been said, the Biden Administration would still pursue a Decoupling Strategy regarding economic relations with China with regards to the Supply Chain economics and engage in lieu actively engage in Recoupling initiatives in the Supply Chain economics with the United States’ close Western Allies away from China. Nevertheless, the level of tensions between China and the U.S. while would continue to simmer below the surface will relatively subside in all fronts, Trade, Economics, Politics and in the Security domains. One is of the strong impression that the Biden Administration, much in the example of the Obama Administration, will try to restore more balanced relations between the Palestinians and the Israelis; however, the Biden Administration, as in the example of the Obama Administration, will prove more critical and less friendly with current Israeli extreme right settlers government. The Biden Administration will strongly oppose any unilateral actions by Israel with regard to settlements expansion and the prospects of the annexation by Israel of territories of the Occupied West Bank.. This would definitely make it relatively easier for the Biden Administration to navigate the Palestinian-Israeli issue as the Two-State Solution is becoming increasingly, rather totally, irrelevant. As with regard to the United States’ relations with Saudi Arabia and some of the Oil Gulf countries, the Biden Administration will prove less enthusiastic about developing further closer relationships with these countries in view of expected declining list of new arms purchases from the U.S. with the Oil Gulf States facing dire endemic budget deficit crises as well as all sorts of economic challenges as a result of low oil prices and deceasing demand on oil in favor of cleaner new renewable sources of energy. Besides, the United States’ is now less dependent on the Gulf oil and as the Biden Administration will restore Obama’s latter years planned strategic U.S. shift towards the more rewarding and promising markets of Far East and away from the much less lucrative Middle Eastern Markets (Refer to the April 1st, 2016, famous lengthy interview of former President Obama in the Atlantic magazine with the editor Jeffrey Goldberg).
    Surely, in conclusion, my humble over enthusiastic optimism and speculation in the above analysis of a better world ahead, starting with Joe Biden being the winner in the next Presidential elections, besides winning with a landslide might all prove naïve wishful thinking, especially with the Biden Administration engaging in truly meaningful sweeping reforms as a rosy picture of which was painted above; however, yet, any world is a better world than the most dangerous leadership of a most inept, ignorant and a racist Donald Trump as a U.S. President.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam said,

      Joe Biden is an old, old 78 year old senile politician. He was in congress and vice president working in government for 40 + years. He has very little to show for it. Biden on separate occasions did run for the presidency and got less than 1% and in one case he was run out of the race for plagiarizing a British politician’s speech.
      A former national security advisor once said that Joe practically on all major foreign policy decisions was wrong.
      Why do you think he has support from the left wing of the Democrats and the news media to such an extent you were able to distill it for us so easily. They dislike Trump and he makes it easy for them.
      You mentioned Kamella Harris or Susan Rice. Their main qualification being a woman and black, he said it himself. What a way to run a railroad.
      BTW I prefer Susan Rice because she liked Meles as an intelligent leader and appeared pro Ethiopian.

      Having said all that, I am afraid you have to live with Trump for another 4 more exhausting years. My prediction.

      Mr. K.H

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Kim Hanna

        Let me go along and play guessing (predicting) game. – I’m playing against you just for a bragging right. Hope you OK with that! And this are my predictions:

        1. – “Joe Biden is an old, old 78 year old senile politician. He was in congress and vice president working in government for 40 + years. He has very little to show for it. Biden on separate occasions did run for the presidency and got less than 1% and in one case he was run out of the race for plagiarizing a British politician’s speech. A former national security advisor once said that Joe practically on all major foreign policy decisions was wrong.”

        Yeah; you’re right. But in politics, brain power is just one factor among hundred factors that qualify you to be a president. Intellectual power is not even a decisive factor to be a famous president. You yourself said “I am afraid you have to live with Trump for another 4 more exhausting years”. If I’ve to guess, you didn’t say what you said because of Trump’s intellect. Regan was charming and full of humor but not known for his intellect; the Bushes were not known for their intellect; and same goes with Trump.

        2. – “Why do you think he has support from the left wing of the Democrats and the news media to such an extent you were able to distill it for us so easily. They dislike Trump and he makes it easy for them.”

        Nah! You wrong on this one. Yes; “the left wing of the Democrats and the news media dislike (hate) Trump”. No doubt about it. But you didn’t answer why the Democrats and the Corporate Media love the “loser” Biden. And let me tell you why.

        A. – Presidents are selected, advertised, and marketed to the public by party bosses, the party elite, by the megarich (super rich) and their (Democratic party) affiliated corporate media.

        B. – That being the case, the main requirement to be a president of the US is to be loyal to your political party, surround yourself with career party elite (politicians technocrats;) and do exactly what your party bosses and your part elite tell you to do. And that is called an institutionalist – your main job is to lead following your political party platform. And Joe Biden is a very loyal Democratic institutionalist. Let me explain

        C. – In the US, if you are the president you’re the leader of your party. And if you are the vice president you are the vice president of your party. After two terms, the US vice president is automatically the front runner for the presidency – almost always supported by the party bosses and party elite.

        D. – In 20016, the Democratic party bosses, the Democratic party elite, the Democratic super donors told Joe Biden not to run for the presidency – favoring Hillary Clinton over him. Putting his political party vision (first woman president) over his personal political ambition, he supported and campaigned for Hillary R Clinton presidency. She lost. And the Democratic Institution (establishment) not only they owe him a debt gratitude, but also the have to reward him handsomely for being a team player. I wish We Eritreans, Ethiopians, and Africans as a whole, pay attention and learn this.

        3. – “You mentioned Kamella Harris or Susan Rice. Their main qualification being a woman and black, he said it himself. What a way to run a railroad.
        BTW I prefer Susan Rice because she liked Meles as an intelligent leader and appeared pro Ethiopian.”

        This selection of vice president is a very serious business. It is also potentially a consequential choice. And the Democratic party bosses are well aware of it. Biden is very old and many unintended things can happen. Therefore

        A. – Biden is not just selecting his running mate but a president if something unforeseen happens. So, we know Biden is loyal to his party and party bosses. The question the party bosses and party elite have to answer is – who do they want to be their plan B president.

        B. – Susan Rice rice is not going to be the one. She is a lightning rod, Obama face liberal, no governing experience….. in the eyes of many moderates and conservative democrats.

        C. – The ideal choice was Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota; but for many reasons she declined. Therefore, my guess for Joe Biden’s vice president is going to be Kamala Harris senator of California.

        D. – Yew, we Eritreans are terrified by Susan Rice, And for sure Trump has been good for us. But, I think that is misplaced concern. For the next decade and half or two, America won’t have neither the appetite nor the resources to (a) bully poor small weak nations (b) run military adventure across the globe (c) pursue ambitious regime change projects to “spread democracy, rule of law, and human rights

        4. – ” I am afraid you have to live with Trump for another 4 more exhausting years. My prediction.”

        I beg to differ on this one. It won’t be smooth transition, Trump may not concede defeat like highly regarded statesmen do. But he would be pushed out of the office – to much damage to the american economy, too much damage to the NATO alliance, too much alienation from world affairs……. under Trump. Americans including many Republicans can’t stomach another four years of the same.

        Semere Tesfai

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Semere T.,

          To say that you support Biden is one thing, but on the other hand, to pontificate about the American electoral system, economy, diplomacy, and NATO is a stretch too far. These issues are way above your pay grade.

          You should stick to rationalizing the dictatorship in Eritrea.

          • Sultan

            Sir:
            Can you follow or apply the basics of civility and decency?
            Semere is expressing his opinion and your job as a forumer and debater is to make constructive counter-arguments and opinion.

            Thought Sami he’s ate relatively decent and reasonable people free of the toxic and backward Eritrean Political Culture .

            Genetics?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Hope-less,

            You are another PFDJ goon.

            Which part of what your comrade said is true about the American economy before your lying, thieving, snake and bat eating, favourite dictatorship, China, unleashed a deadly plague on the entire World?

            There are also lies on NATO, where members were only asked to fulfill their obligations by sharing the financial burden.

            Cozying up to Russia? Could it be the annexation of Crimea, their involvement in Syria, the sale of Uranium ONE, or Barack Obozo’s famous words to Putin: wait until I get elected for a second term I will have more flexibility?

            Or is it fake Nobel prize Obozo’s total surrender to lying, thieving, hacking China on trade?

            It is tiresome and.tedius try

          • Sultan

            Simon:
            But why would care and stay sleepless if I am a PFDJ or not?
            Isn’t it my well deserved right and entitlement to be :
            -whatever I want to be
            -to believe in whatever I want to
            – to say whatever I want
            -to side with whatever I want to
            … as long as I respect the others and their right as well as their stands ..and do not interfere in their business.???
            You should do same, if at you have a functional brain, not a robotic and programmed brain.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Hope-less,

            I am not sleepless that you are a PFDJ errand boy. I just want to expose your deception.

            Hope-less advocating ‘respect’ is similar to the Mafia supporting clean government.

          • Sultan

            Simon:
            Knock it off, tsemam hanti derfu.
            Expose who and for what?

        • Sultan

          Selam Semere T:
          A Well done argument and analysis and a logical one.
          I wish others / American see it the way you did… but truth and justice don’t wirk in politics and in the UNJUST system.
          Dr Susan Rice does have enough Credentials and experience but I doubt that will she will make a good president from the “ Conservative” American Perspective .
          The Fox News can easily “ kill” her.

          Senator Kamela Harris, on the other hand, aside from lack of experience outside the USA compared to Dr Rice’s exp as a UN Amb, Ast Secretary of State and National Security Advisor( plenty of credentials), she can make a good BP and President.
          I still suspect Dr Susan Rice will a VP pick.
          I thought she would be fo a good job as the head of the DOJ.
          Trump?
          Don’t be distracted by the fake polls.
          That Dude is crooked beyond any imagination despite being an IW -30 guy per his own Chief if Staff .

          He will use the Race card( Read : White Supremacist Agenda) to the max and that underground agenda has spread thru the 50 overnight and if he used it successfully, he can and will use it more successfully in Nov coz he and his campaign team have successfully penetrated the White Majority!
          The so called Electoral College will fave Trump since the popular vote does not matter or affect the outcome .
          Trump and his Team believe so.

          Eritrea vs the next US Candidate or Party:

          Since the sanctions are lifted and we are friendly with Ethiopia, the Gulf and Cairo, Eritrea as a nation will be relatively safer o ER all but if Dr Sudan Rice is going to be a VP / future President, PIA will be in trouble , which by default, might affect Etitrea if she tries to retaliate against and targets PIA, which she will if she gets a chance.

          But the good thing is that her “ boy” friend PMMZ is no more in the equation and that might help PIA / Eritrea indirectly!

        • Kaddis

          Selam Semere – lovely read …

          I totally agree with your point here

          “For the next decade and half or two, America won’t have neither the appetite nor the resources to ….deal small nations like us …..

          Can we conclude then, the US already have sub-contracted the horn, red sea, etc block to the gulf states, Egypt for a long time now? If so how would Susan Rice become a risk to either ET or ER when she is believed to know the region better and may push a direct US foreign policy in the region? That means a little bit of value based policy rather that pivoting just to counter China’s influence?

          Cheers,

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kaddis,

            I think my hunch just based the characters you mentioned, strictly from Ethiopia’s perspective it would fair better with Biden and Co. For example Rice and State Dept. know the players in our neck of the woods. They know a lot about Somalia, Eritrea, Sudan and S.Sudan to favor us.

            For Trump he doesn’t know us at all. He knows very well Saudi Arabia, the Emirates and Egypt. The sad possibility is he listens to these corrupt leaders and overrules those who know what is what. That is why we have to be prepared to the extent possible how to mitigate it.

            Mr. K.H

          • Kaddis

            Selam Kim –

            The gulf won over Ethiopia – no doubt. Their investment on Isias and his investment on G7, Ezema worked and its delivery time. Abiy is more of a face. Only tplf looks ready to resist, I don’t know for how long, the rest of us can only join the prayer of Eritreans to speed up Isu’s natural causes.

            The oromo and tigray could fight back in coordination but in order for their fight to work – the gov of Ethiopia should have some level of sensitivity to loss of business, inflation, loss of foreign currency, losing election, African union and ECA evacuation etc…Isu doesn’t give a hoot…if the gov acts like it has nothing to lose and the chaos is actually welcome, which enjoys the fragility of the state; there is no winner. Or AA and Isu will win. You know what I mean.
            The west is acting deaf and the insecurity looks is desired as a destination. How do you fight that.?…thanks to our awate schooling – you can’t. Maybe if US politics do a 180 degree ..maybe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kaddis,

            “ The gulf won over Ethiopia – no doubt. Their investment on Isias and his investment on G7, Ezema worked and its delivery time. Abiy is more of a face.”

            The above statement says It all. The Arabs will control the politics of Ethiopia through the flow of their cash money as they did to our despot. And Indeed Abiy is the face of the driving forces – Isaias and Ginbot-7 in the current politics of Ethiopia. Time will tell whether the alliance of Isaias and Ginbot-7 will deliver the political package of SA and UAE for Ethiopia. Abiy without these two can not stay in power that long.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            Is this academia analysis or a sign of mental sickness caused by continues natural and human made misery?
            anyways good progress u guys now turn from “ethiopia the enemy of arabs and Muslims narrative to ethiopia is controlled by arabs “none sense, good progress.
            academia my foot.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Kaddis,

            I think the US is in tough spot right now. The rise of China is a bigger issue that the US needs to deal with and countries like ours will not be a top priority.

            Fir example, there is a huge debate is going with the 5G technology. China technology got endorsed as the standard and many western countries such as Canada are split which way to go, if they should use Chinese technology.

            The use security concern is very real. There is a believe that China stole Canadian technology giant (Nortel) secret for years to build / incorporate Huawei. Nortel went bankrupt while Huawei opened office in Canada and hired the top 50 engineers of Nortel and setup shop. The work of these researchers is what Huawei offering of its 5G technology.

            The 5eye (US, UK, Austria, NewZeland, Canada) are pressuring Canada not to use Huawei products or else it will be kicked out. The government is in tough situation, plus with the detention of Huawei executive extradition request to the US, where China responded by detaining high level government advisors in China.

            Considering the pressure the US is in, I think Eritrea /Ethiopia/ Egypt/ Nile plus the economic pressure of the Corona virus it’s in yes position to care let alone dictate anything.

            I think we are all in on our own, and I think Ethiopia is in a lot harder position to navigate this. I think if the TPLF can change course and help Abiy succeeded and make genuine peace with Eritrea will be better for long term gains for everyone.

            Amde was right when he said, the Eritrea duke us too complicated for Abi. Not that peace us not welcome, but the fall out off that (Re: Ethiopian internal unrest). It served only IA it seems and he is under yes pressure internally.

            The genius (evil) of IA is he moves like a turtle (meaning he does nothing) for years and waits for the time to sort out for him.

            Berhe

          • Kokhob Selam

            Yes Mr. Berhino,

            5G technology is going to be exposed totally and replaced by 5D.
            As I always said it long back in Jebena page,,See now how things are gong?

            The solution is love and spiritual journey to all mankind..

            KS,,

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Kaddis and Kim Hanna

            First let me say sorry for my late response – I had to confirm with Isaias Afewerqi first 🙂

            Now, let me get serious and go to your points:

            1. – “you said, For the next decade and half or two, America won’t have neither the appetite nor the resources to ….deal small nations like us ….. Then

            Can we conclude then, the US already have sub-contracted the horn, red sea, etc block to the gulf states, Egypt for a long time now?”

            A. – I believe (a) Covdi-19 (b) Two decade US military adventure in the Middle East, North Africa, and Afghanistan (c) Neglect of US infrastructure and investment at home…. has done damage to US economy more than you and I can imagine.

            B. – Meaning, US won’t be the same US you and I know post Covid-19. US wealth, power, global influence, and global involvement will be reduced to a level we haven’t seen in our lifetime.

            C. – That means – expect a lot of uncertainties and instabilities all over the globe. China flexing its muscle to control the China Sea, Taiwan, and Hong and show its dominance in Southeast Asia. Russia flexing its muscle in Eastern Europe and Middle East to show its power and influence

            D. – As the US scales back its power and presence in the global stage, new alliances and coalitions would emerge – with war flare-ups here and there.

            E. – Therefore, to answer your question, no one knows what the Middle East is going to look like five years from now. We don’t know if Isaias and Abiy are going to be around five years from now. We don’t know what kind of alliances are going to emerge in our neighborhood.

            F. – All I know is – Ethiopia, Nigeria, and Egypt will be the powerhouses of Africa – provided they maintain their sanity.
            China and India will shine in the global stage, Russia and Brazil would be OK. America will always be a global power but not a lone super power.

            2. – “If so how would Susan Rice become a risk to either Ethiopia or Eritrea when she is believed to know the region better and may push a direct US foreign policy in the region? That means a little bit of value based policy rather that pivoting just to counter China’s influence?

            A. – One of the calculus, presidential nominees select their vice presidents is to help them win vote. So the argument against Susan Rice is, she would do more harm than good (bringing vote) to the Biden presidential bid.

            B. – No matter what position Susan Rice play’s in the Biden presidency, her involvement in a given region is going to be limited by American policy priorities. If the priority is South China Sea to rescue Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and South Korea from being swallowed by China, then that is were she would concentrate all her efforts.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Kaddis

            Many thanks Semere for the comprehensive response.
            Its worth the wait : – )
            Cheers from the coldest keremt in Addis – it could be due to the covid caused non-polluting 6 month, this year keremt is the original one, the one we enjoyed during childhood …in the 80s for me.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Semere,

            This is the best unbiased comment from you, since I know you in this forum. Your geopolitical eye is on target and your analysis is well grounded to predict on the balance of powers in the near foreseeable future. US influence on all geopolitical contested spots is reduced under the current US administration. We shall see how the new global alliance will take place.

            Regard

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Semere Tesfai,

            This is great. Absolutely great. Thank you!

      • Yoni

        Selam Miss Hanna,

        Anyone who thinks Biden is senile has either been consuming right-wing propaganda uncritically or is easily duped against their interests just like the white nationalists Maga crowds. Have you watched how Dumpy slurs his words and is infirm when walking? I guess I can’t include the YouTube link here on how pathetic he is per AWATE rule.Dump does not even care about Eritrea as he considers it as one of the _hit hole countries whose inhabitants live in grass huts. Sorry, you are not blue-eyed and blond from Norway to qualify according to the wannabe Mussolini. God willing Biden will be my 10th US president, and hopefully, he will do what he is promising in his campaign and make the US real great. I would rather vote in my homeland Eritrea given a chance; absent that, Biden is not going to be too shabby considering the alternative swampy current administration. The Tesfanews crowd/kids, I guess, got their marching orders from their mafia boss to malign Biden because Rice may be considered a VP slot. Rice may have been pro Meles/Ethiopia, and more likely, she is not going to get the VP slot as she is a human lightning rod bereft of human relations skills.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Yoni,

          Eritrea is not only a _hole but it’s also Hell on earth.

          Whose fault is it?

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Yoni, Semere Tesfai,

          First and foremost, I am Mister Kim Hanna to you.

          Second, I see the usual gibberish being regurgitated, a tell tell sign of whole sale consumption of a narrative that did not and will not work.

          Third, I think I said enough, we will wait for a couple of months, to see if Semere Tesfai or Mr. K.H read the tea leaf right.
          When Semere says, Trump damaged NATO, I say ookkaayy, then he adds Trump damaged the economy, I say that is too far. He must be reading from left to right or upside down or something.

          Mr. Kim Hanna

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam KH,

            He is copying from some left wing hack. Dishonesty or ignorance?

            With tax cuts and deregulation, investment was rising, the stock market was booming, and employment (in particular among minorities) was going up. Then came the Made in CHINA virus.

            On NATO, don’t you think, for example, prosperous countries such as Germany should pay their quota on time and in full?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            I don’t know if I am right about this but I will put it out there. I keep noticing it more and more among Ethiopians.
            I always thought Ethiopians/Eritreans to be well grounded when it comes to non-Ethiopian/Eritrean issues, regardless of the level of education. They call the right shots. They call a spade a spade.

            Since Bush/Obama era there was a detectable changes in what I see among acquaintances. One of the changes is the rush to use the race card.
            I hope my good friend Horizon does not read this comment. Sometimes he puts the Black American to shame with racial accusations and explanations, complete with nuisances.
            Almost all your failures now have a good safe harbor so to speak in addition to a tiny ill gains.

            That is one of the reason the unemployment level in Trump administration becomes easy to dismiss or fib about it. How can a racist do good.

            Mr K. H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            I don’t think that i have understood what you mean when you say “Sometimes he [Horizon] puts the Black American to shame with racial accusations and explanations, complete with nuisances.”.
            Of course, it bothers me a lot when i read that a person is dehumanized and killed for the color of his skin even today, and it has been happening for over the last 4 centuries. At least we who wear their skin should try to understand them.
            These people were taken out of their african village by force and they were inhumanly treated and exploited. Today they are not given equal chances, grow and live as a second class citizens, and when an immigrant achieves something he thinks himself superior to the black american, and blames him for everything he has become and absolves the whiteman from four centuries of mistreatment.
            I don’t say that african americans do not bear any responsibility for their lives. Nevertheless, I don’t think that i can accept when they are loaded with all the responsibilities and it is said that there are no racial and socio-economic reasons at all, but their laziness or irresponsibility. We didn’t grow with the trauma the african american faced, and we come from a third world country more or less educated and maybe this creates a divide in our minds.
            Fear, frustration and hopelessness are embedded in their psyche, and one must try to understand that. Their weaknesses could change to strength if they find themselves in the right environment that creates confidence.
            As much as trump is concerned, he is much more an american problem than a world problem. Nobody accepts him as a world leader. On the contrary they say they are living in a world without a leader. Under trump american world hegemony has gradually shrunk. Trump will be known as the leader who started the american decline rather than its greatness.
            As far as the coming elections are concerned, i think that what some american intellectuals say is right, that he will be re-elected only if he cheats. He may try to do so.
            Finally, when one sees that america has only old politicians to provide to itself and the world community, it shows that it has become old itself. The 20th century showed us the decline of the british empire. We don’t know if this 21st century will be that of the USA. The coming elections will prove or disprove it.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,

            I know it bothers you. I don’t like being insulted or mistreated either. The African American of 2020 is in a different boat than the one ones over 300 years ago. Most of them believe slavery is unique to them. With that core belief it is understandable everything wrong is attributed to it.

            You and I have a slightly different perspective. That is all what I was trying to say.
            Mohamud Ali, visiting Africa after one of his fights reportedly said…..I am glad my old great great great grand pa caught the boat. That says something obvious.

            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            Sorry for continuing the discussion. It may get sometimes boring and tiresome. Just a few words on what Mohammed Ali said.
            From what I remember, he was not really a humble person when he was young and famous. I remember he was telling his opponents right in their face, things like he was beautiful, etc, to intimidate them and make them feel inferior. He had a big self-esteem. Maybe he compared the congolese people with african-americans when he said what he said about his ancestors. He should have known that they were forced to go to the americas chained hand and feet in the most horrible way imaginable, which remains painful to the majority of their descendants. Maybe he didn’t know that life has many parts, the social, the economic and the psychological.
            If we compare black and white americans, the difference in wealth between the two is said to be that white americans have wealth 10 times as much. A similar thing could be said about african-americans and indigenous africans, especially of the 60s.
            Few days ago i watched a video, it must have been on the bbc, about african-americans who have moved to ghana. Some of them had taken DNA ancestry test and they found out that their ancestors were from that region. They were talking about security, peace of mind, and they even felt that they were starting to become color insensitive as they live among other africans. Their children were growing up in freedom and security among other african children.
            Some of them were in tears when they visited the dungeon from where their ancestors had embarked chained together. More than 12m of them, and more than 2m who died on the way. These african-americans were saying that they will never return back to the US.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam KH,

            I do not think Trump is a racist. So far, no concrete evidence has been presented to support this charge. It is all left wing smear tactics.

            Yes, there will always be individual racism, but today’s American society is becoming less and less racist. It is evolving through step-wise refinement. Furthermore, America is not institutionally racist.

            How is it the case that community organizer, zero work experience, Obama twice got elected to office? Without the bulk of the White votes?

            The Democrat party which has now become a left wing party, is the original racist party; the party of the Southern slave owners, the KKK, of segregation. Biden was a great friend of the segregationists. Read about Biden’s crime bill and what it did to Blacks. To the Blacks: vote for us now, here are your welfare cheques, see you in 4 years time.

            Talking of racism, Ethiopia and Eritrea are two casually racist countries. Mengistu was hated in Ethiopia more for his looks than his brutality. In Eritrea, the Kunama are invisible (except in dancing troups on TV). How many are in important public spheres?

          • David Samson

            Selam Simon,

            I agree with you!

            You do not have to go too far to find racism in our culture. How do we define beauty? Anyone who does not have a feature of Caucasian is auto ugly.

            Solomon Samura( my be a typo with the name) was an investigative journalist from Sierra Leone. The chap had courage. He travelled through the Sahara and Sudan with potential refugee to document their journey; he slept and ate with them and had to go through the same hardship as the refugees.

            He also made a documentary film on Ethiopian drought. He had to spend over three-weeks in Wola province, with a family to witness how they go through a week with hardly any food on a table. The family stable diet was wild spinach, cooked with little oil. The husband had suffered from urinary infection due to his diet. Solomon took a show on a river. One Sunday, he decided to go to a local church with the wife of the house. When both arrived at the church, most of the churchgoers had to flee for their lives as they have never seen a black person with West African’s features. The thought of seeing a devil on earth was too much to bear.
            Solomon asked the wife the reason for the sudden disappearance of the congregation. She was coy and excused herself by saying that the locals have not seen any stranger before.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kaleab,

            D. Trump is an equal opportunity offender. He has a unique response to those who accuse him of racism to his face. He has said several times in interviews that…..he is the least racist person in the country.
            Well that should cover it all.

            Talking about purely about racism I prefer the USA with all its warts than say, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Algeria or Argentina.
            For another black man, say a Kunama, even Ethiopia is a racist place.

            The sad reality is you get paid for accusing the U.S of being racist, everybody else says ….soooo, if accused. End of the story.

            Mr. K.H

      • Paulos

        Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

        I would say, the genius of America is not electing the first African American but the first Trump instead where the man is clearly hard to find him a place with in the political spectrum. That said however, his ascension to power was not an anomaly but part of the American political psych where it vacillates from one extreme to the other. For instance, Nixon was a crook and the American people wanted an honest man and they found it in Carter. What’s more, Carter was weak particularly in foreign policy where his main focus was human rights issues when the Cold War was at its peak but the Americans were looking for a tough guy who can stand up to the domino effect of the Soviet Union and they found it in Reagan. That kind of consistent trend is too tempting to conclude that Biden has a better chance than Americans would want a man who makes Pinocchio a dwarf in comparison.

        If we look deeper particularly with in the annals of American political history, Trump carries the baton of Jefferson and Jackson where particularly Jefferson was at extreme odds with Hamilton when he had a vision for America with a militia instead of a standing army; small government with no big banks or financial institutions what so ever. That kind of Rousseauian world view or political philosophy was morphed into violence and resentment when Andrew Jackson in the late 1820s rallied his political zeal around a populist undertones when he went after the educated and product of the East coast US—John Quincy Adams. And it was the resentful Irish and Scots who had a bad experience with the aristocratic British before they immigrated and settled in the South–US.

      • Nitricc

        BTW I prefer Susan Rice because she liked Meles as an intelligent leader and appeared pro Ethiopian

        Hi Kim; You disappointed me with that rubbish statement. Anyway; Biden will win if he takes the most intelligent black woman in the USA Condoleezza Rice. Hands down.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Nitricc,

          We have been disappointing each other for years, what is new.

          Joe Biden wants to be known as the most progressive president in the the history of the U.S. He said so few weeks ago.

          Now Condo, as we like to affectionately call her, is a smooth conservative republican. I am sure you know Biden is almost 80 year old. Condo becoming UN-elected president is pretty good.

          Do you think all the progressives around Biden would allow such a disappointing idea to the forefront.
          Hands down, NO!

          Mr. K.H

        • Consolation

          Nitricc,

          Biden, who is in an advanced stage of cognitive decline (an euphemism for dementia 🙂 , is not going to win with any black woman VP running mate. For all practical purposes, the race is between Trump and his VP mate. I am afraid that while America will revolt at the idea of a woman and black president. The democrats boxed themselves when they chose Biden to be their candidate.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Nitricc,

          Susan Rice (the serial liar) is a Democrat.

          On the other hand, Condi Rice is a Republican. She will not be corrupt Joe Biden’s VP running mate.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi K.H.

        I read on the weekend an article titled “A look back at Susan Rice’s Eritrea-Ethiopia diplomacy: Tom Campbell”. Basically the author is praising Susan Rice for the work that she did during the Eritrean / Ethiopia war as a highlight of her career.

        It may turn out that she may have favored Ethiopia / Melles instead of Eritrea/ Isayas. But this may not have anything to do with her but rather with our leader (Isayas).

        Reading the article, I do think there is some fact that we can dispute. Suppose the conflict was today, where would we end up with? To her credit (to Clinton) and the US they stayed engaged at the highest level and stay consistent through out the whole conflict, from the start to the end and signing.

        Looking back, if it wasn’t for the US (Susan Rice), I don’t if we were ever be able to end the conflict the way it did (although not everyone was happy). And I am glad she was in charge, compared the minions that are there now…

        I think she would make better vice president than Harris. She has a lot of international experiences, state department, UN Ambassador, National Security etc, plus her education in international relationships. I think she will have the best chance of becoming the first black women president if Biden chose here as VP, even if he loses.

        I think Harris fits more like the path of the legislation as she is doing supporting the president.

        Berhe

        • Aligaz G

          Berhe,

          Historically US interest in the Horn declines whenever they feel they have strong relations with Egypt. Accordingly Rice was given free reign over the region and she chose to support Meles’ dictatorship. I really hope she doesn’t get the selection.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aligaz,

            You probably know more than when it comes to US relationship with the horn, but I didn’t think it has anything to do with Egypt. Egypt and the US has been in good terms since Sadat made peace with Israel. May be there was a little bump during the Muslim brotherhood after Mubarak.

            I think when Rice was undersecretary of African affairs during Clinton, I don’t think there was much can be said her that affected Ethiopian relationship.

            I think Melles sold the “war on terror” to the Bush and Republicans and they gave a free reign and Obama / Rice expanded it further.

            I think it more to do with Melles shrewdness as suppose to Rice fault. He played to the tune.

            Isayas said as per the wikileaks, they didn’t choose us.

            I personally doesn’t matter much as the US have bigger issue to deal with. The decline of the US superpower and the rise of Chiba is creating unstable world.

            I wish the US gets back to its rightful place, honestly and I don’t think DT or Biden are both for the job of today.

            A good VP is import right now, and I don’t think Rice can do the job if she elected president.

            Berhe

          • Aligaz G

            Berhe,

            US foreign policy post WWII in the Horn goes very roughly and broadly like this :
            1950 – 1974 Egypt led by Nasser/Sadat was in the Soviet orbit while Ethiopia under HSI was in the US orbit. The US had a major communication post in Asmera, Eritrea was Federated and Ethiopia received more than 50% of all military aid to Africa during that period. Somalia by the end of the 60’s had joined the Soviet camp. US interest in the Horn was extremely high.
            1975-1992 Egypt led by Sadat/Mubarak switched over to the US camp and recognized Israel regaining Sinai in the process and billions in direct military aid. Ethiopia under Menguistu chose communism. The communications base in Asmera was replaced by satellite networks. Eritrean independence. Somalia went over to the US camp. US interest was officially low and people like Henze and Cohen were allowed to improvise policy in the Horn.
            1992-present US relations with Egypt remain extremely strong. US Horn policy still being improvised under junior staff like Rice and even worse more recently the phenomena of outsourcing Horn policy to the Gulf States. US interest extremely low.

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam all,

    Amanuel H. (Ex-ELF) talks about sovereignty, while Hashela (creepy PFDJ) is talking about, around the clock, land and Weyane. Neither of them give air-time to the economic and social hardships faced by the Eritrean people.

    What is the difference between the two?

    • David Samson

      Selam Simon,

      Emma’s politics is known to some of us. I have known Emma since the Asmarino’s days (perhaps he also wrote articles on Meskerem). I do not believe Emma has some love or connection with Tigray people. He always says his interest in politics is about social groups. He strongly believes that the Christian highlanders have benefited from the State of Eritrea; he also strongly believes in devolve or decentralised government. He sees Ethio’s politics from this perspective. He is the biggest supporter of TPLF’s ethnic federalism. It is not hard to understand as it is a fundamental part of his politics. He has made clear that he does not like Abiy’s politics right from the word go.

      Despite my fundamental disagreements with Emma’s politics, Emma has dug his heels in and argue his corner until he bleeds his opponent. We can witness it here. He made almost all of the Ethio files to tears. They do not know how to tackle him but are rather resorting to personal attacks. There many Ethio-files whose full-time were demonising Meles. Abebe Gelaw was tasked with finding the educational background of all Tigrayan’s officials. Now when people who hate Abiy is doing the same, his supporters have a nervous breakdown. While they have the right to cuddle him, others have the right to scrutinise him as well.

      The other side is about the intense and deep hatred towards Tigrayans and Tigray. They spend 24/7 blaming TPLF for all Eritrean ills. Their language change and adjust with IA’s tone. Two years ago, he told them weshould plant flowers on the border; they should not mention border and focus on Ethio’s internal politics. When IA has changed his tone, their tone changed too: TPLF has failed to implement the border ruling. Book my word: If IA, out of the blue, reconciled with TPLF and visits Tigray, their tone and hatred towards
      Tigray will evaporate within a day.

      You are right to point out the welfare of our people has taken a back seat. When Dr Bereket( My ex-school mate) had an interview with Assenna, he said, “ Why people are talking about sovereignty and border while no one wants to tackle the big elephant in the room?”. Many people were outraged by his comments, including SAAY. Bereket remarked not from the western city but the camps in Tigray

      • Paulos

        David,

        Well said Fratello. Well said. “Others may hate you” Nixon remarked in his farewell speech, “if you hate them back, you destroy yourself.” The Tigrean people have taken note and internalized Zen’s philosophy, instead they receive, feed and give shelter to those who hate them and God in heaven is watching!

        • Aligaz G

          Paul

          Who is financing all this saintly “hospitality”?

          • Desbele

            Aligaz,
            No need of financing, just open arms.
            Remember , at the border, pfdj soldiers shoot to kill ERITREANS and Ethiopian soldiers shout to guide those souls to safety as they cross. The former needs financing, for the bullet,and the later is FREE.

          • Aligaz G

            Desebel, Paul

            You guys are touchy. I was expecting you to say UN, EU. IOM … the usual. No free lunch in Tigray

          • Paulos

            Keep talking, in the meantime the misery refuses to let up when the evil spirit manifested in human flesh is not done yet with the North and headed to the South when God is watching from Heaven. Keep talking!

      • Dongolo

        Selam David Samson. Most Eritreans here go out of their way to NOT to paint the TPLF and the Tigrayan people as one and the same while the TPLF propaganda machine does the contrary. The TPLF’s simple withdrawal of troops from Badme (instead of holding it as a political bargaining chip) would serve as goodwill leap of faith for Eritreans and pave the path to border openings and economic mutual benefit. Hate of PIA/PFDJ simply cannot justify the TPLF’s refusal to withdraw from the border.

        • uf

          Selam Dongolo.
          Who is refusing to withdraw from the border? is it TPLF force or Ethipoian goverment force? who has jurisdiction over border it?

      • Desbele

        Selam David,
        Not only Amanuel’s politics but we all know his face and real name. Direct , honest, straightforward engagement. As someone who grow up in Addis, boldness was one good quality Eritreans were well known for. It has now become rare.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam David Samson,

        When one meets focused and fair-minded readers – be it in this forum or elsewhere- there would be a feeling time that has not been waste in vain, because some times nonsense does also comes here in abundance. Your objectivity and enlightened interaction with worthy contributors like Amanuel Hidrat, which I witnessed in this entry of yours, made feel I should not pass it without acknowledging that I leared from it worthy value as a human being, and expressing gratitude to you for writing what you have written about Amanuel and his political position, extraordinary consistency and honourable way he advocates his thoughts. Perhaps, a few idle chaters in this forum might pick a word or two about what it means to engage in civilized debate. Thank you, sir.

    • Hashela

      Hi Simon

      Now pick up your MAGA hat and wave your white masters. It is a disgrace to see black people serving white supremacists.

      • Aligaz G

        Hashela,

        Do you prefer Obama’s foreign policy? I get that DT is a seriously polarizing figure in US domestic politics but what about his policy in the Horn?

        • Hashela

          Aligaz

          You are right, DT’s disinterest in Africa and Bolton as the United States National Security Advisor was a blessing for Eritrea. I am a bit concerned that Biden will decide for Rice as his vice president. She is not Eritrea friendly and has a big heart for TPLF

          • Aligaz G

            Hashela,

            Bingo. DT is an accelerant at his best – an arsonist at his worst. We will let history judge him in the Horn. Btw I was a huge supporter of Barry until the day he stood in the sunshine in Addis and uttered those famous last words – Ethiopia is a democracy. Words fed in to his ears by Hilary, Gayle and Susan.

          • Hashela

            Aligaz

            DT is a toxic plan that flourishes on the soil that the GOP has been preparing for decades: anti-science, anti-intellectualism, a myobic world view and a systematic destruction of social safety nets and the middle class….

          • Aligaz G

            Hashela,

            Not a fan I see. A few months and he is gone if the polls are correct this time.

          • Hashela

            Aligaz

            it looks like that, at the moment. He knows, however, how to exploit the fear of whites, so we will see. The fact that the Reps are daring not to blindly obey him is good sign. It seems they know more than anybody, they have very Data Scientists, I am sure Simon does not belong to the latter.

        • Paulos

          Aligaz,

          Rice is not good for Eritrea means not good for Isaias and you can see the confusion in principle. And that is precisely the reason we say Amanuel Hidrat is the giant.

          • Aligaz G

            Paul,

            I think your position is clear enough.

          • Sultan

            Doc:
            Who cares now if she kicks out PIA since we are free from sanctions and Ethiopia accepted FULLY the Algiers Agreement and the EEBC Verdict?
            Dr AAA can actually work better with a new Eri Leader …hoping to be a younger and educated one, since we have plenty of them .
            Trump?
            Oh Lord.
            Anything else and one else is better than that clueless and dangerously polarizing Dude, who completely destroyed the American Values.
            America, Americans and their values are beyond economics!

      • Simon Kaleab

        Hashela,

        The creepy PFDJ.

        Stay on topic. Leave American politics to the Americans.

        Come out and support your party in the open rather than by stealth.

        You have no backbone?

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  • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

    You say:
    “At this point Abiy is our enemy.”

    Absolutely wrong, unfair, unjust and counter productive point of view. Which can be proven to be irrational academically. Absolute statements such as the above is also not a generous gift towards the betterment of Ethiopian matters. It would be desirable to see the words of learned intellectuals contributing and testifying to the truths of the positive contributions of individuals such as PM Abiy towards Eritreans, hence friend of Eritrea, while criticizing and pointing out the his weaknesses that affects Eritreans negatively.

    Statements such as the above are destructive to Eritreans as well as to Ethiopians. But I dare not to make the error of calling Ayya Amanuel Hidrat an Eritrea’s enemy or out right stupid.

    At best view us as those who are recording Eritrean history and Eritrean leads as it is unfolding for us to record and pass on to Eritrean generations to come. To be fair and just and objective we will be begging our logs with: Men in history are not all good neither men in history are all bad. That includes Ayya Amanuel Hidrat and the Pm Abiy Ahmed.

    I predict that in the not to far future you will see witness an United Ethiopia with a coalition central federal government that consists of the TPLF and PM Dr. Abiy Ahmed. Ethiopians will recognize what will be to their best interest. The zero sum game attitude with such absolute statements projecting your desired outcome of the TPLF Vs PM Abiy Ahmed dichotomy as well as your zero sum attitude towards any conflict is an antiquated and undesired methods of the ancient ways. Such attitudes fail to see the reality on the ground and how they will most likely unfold in the near future. such attitudes fails every time to contribute positively as well as gain positively to and from the process. Such attitudes and statements in the past determined the negative deficit relations of the Eritrean Opposition with the TPLF for example. And in the very likely of a reconciled TPLF and PM Abiy Ahmed such attitudes and statements of nihilism will determine a further negative deficit relations of Eritreans and Ethiopians.

    I believe the best outcome is for the TPLF and PM Abiy’s Prosperity Party to see the wisdom of their sharing power immediately. And it is beneficial for Eritreans to encourage the peace between the Ethiopian peoples as opposed to influencing their division. It is a peaceful neighbor with itself that can make peace with us.

    When you say “our” enemy which includes me and the future generations of Eritrea, kindly refrain from such investments on Eritreans behalf which will guarantee only negative and horrible consequential returns for Eritreans.

    Finally, you must realize that the authority of great minds with great knowledge, ideas and opinions will never remain static. Progress in humanity is due to future thinkers and authorities in their own time debunking, improving and changing antiquated idea of their predecessors. So I humbly suggest that you leave room opened so that you can see clearly see the perspective of others. In this case you are failing to see the value Mr. Kim Hanna and other Ethiopians place on their PM Abiy Ahmed. You are blind to see the value the TPLF places on the usefulness of PM Abiy now and and the future and by your reasoning when PM Abiy is once again a friend of the TPLF, will you consider the TPLF then an enemy? So not only are you wrong to command Mr. Kim Hanna and other Ethiopians to tend to their own matters as if they are not, their involvement in Eritrean matters is not only the actions of Eritrea’s friends but it is also the actions of persons that are tending to their own matters.

    At some point we will all leave the matters of this world for the young to deal with and come to the realization that we must disrobe our cloud and hang our cap and allow the ascent of young judges and jurors to undertake the matters of justice. Don’t let your nihilistic views and attitudes allow you to miss all the beauty that is transpiring and blossoming in Ethiopian today. And YES inclusive of the PM Abiy Ahmed a friend of Eritrea indeed.

    GitSAtSE

    • Abi

      Hello GitSAtSE
      This beautifully written should appear as a front page article with absolutely no modifications.
      Thanks

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Abi,

        Hope you are doing well. Saay is back and surprised to see you haven’t welcomed him.

        Berhe

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ህግደፍን ሰዓብቱን
    ዶ ይሕሹ?
    ዋላስ
    ቁማል ትዃን
    ኩላቶም በላዕቲ ‘ንዳ መሰሉ ደሓን
    ህግደፍ
    ስብ ክጥሕን ብዘይ መጥሓን

    ሰዓብቱ
    ኣብ ጸልማት ዝነብሩ
    ቀትሪ ‘ንከሎ ብርሃን
    ኣብ ክንዲ ምስ ህዝቦም
    ዝመረጹ
    ምስ ገበነኛታት ምስሓን
    ኩሉ ክሓልፍ ‘ዩ
    ደሓን
    ቀሪባ ትመስል
    ናይ ሓርነት ብርሃን!

    • Consolation

      hi

      እንታዩ ሚስጢሩ፥ ስነ-መጎቱ
      መስፍን ዝሓልም፥ ኣስመራ ክኣቱ
      ኣእዱግ ወያነ፥ ከይሓፈረ ተጎርቢቱ
      ኣይሰምዐንዩ መስለኒ፥ ከምዝተሰናበቱ
      ብደንጎላ ተሰጒጎም፥ መቐለ ከምዝሸፈቱ፥፥

      መስፍን’ሲ ኣሪጉ፥ ኣጥፊኡ ሃለዋቱ
      እቲ ዝገርመኒ፥ ናይቶም ብጾቱ
      መርገም ኰይኑ፥ መዋእል ክኽርትቱ
      ዕስራ ዓመት ከዲሞም፥ ዘይተዓወቱ
      ክኾነሎም ዝጽበዩ፥ ወየንቲ ምስ ሞቱ፡፡

  • Sultan

    Hello Mad Mullah, Mebrahtu and Kim :
    Until I post the latest Archaeological findings in Asmera and surroundings, check this out:
    https://www.tesfanews.net/italian-archaeology-eritrea-mission-discover-adulis/

    • MebrahtuLight

      Hey Sultan

      The biggest historical news this year is Adulis was never part of Aksum empire according to the Italian archaeologist team excavating the city.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Mebrahtu,

        Does that mean Axum was landlocked? Phew!

        I hope they will not say that Adulis was part of the Egyptian, Persian, Greek, Roman or Chinese empire.

        Who’s funding the never Axum project? Follow the money trail.

    • mad mullah

      Hello Sultan,
      very interesting… thanks for sharing

    • Consolation

      Hello Sultan and all,

      This question has never occurred to me before. Are there any archaeological remains of the Axumite kingdom other than the obelisks. I keep hearing about the Axumite empire that lasted at least one millennium, but I haven’t seen or heard of any evidence other than the obelisks. Is there an explanation for this!

      • mad mullah

        Hello Consolation,
        I am sure there are churchs, etc…
        I don’t know if there is book on archaeological finds… if you want to tourist view you can watch this it talks about Eritrea and Aksum..
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OSEpexs_Q

  • Paulos

    Hashela and Berhe,

    Listen to the man [Colonel Abiy] you approve of and what he had to say about Eritrea.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p1p-VPNWI70

    • Hashela

      Selam Paulos

      Despite your unforced provocation, I will keep it civil!

      Abiy is an Ethiopian prime minister and it is natural that he works and speaks for Ethiopia’s best interest. Only Ethiopians can approve or disapprove Abiy’s performance, nobody else.

      As demonstrated in our distant and more recent history, only Eritreans will protect Eritrea, nobody else! So it does not matter what the leaders of other nations say. This means only Eritreans will protects and preserves Eritrea’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. I am sure it did not escape your attention that TPLF is currently occupying sovereign Eritrean territorial while the Abij Administration unconditionally accepted the EEBC verdict. So right now, TPLF is the enemy of Eritrea, not PM Abiy.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Hashela,

        Educate me if I show ignorance. But ‘unconditionally’ accepting something means (in diplomatic language) executing that things allows no other condition. Since the Ethiopian PM is also commander of the armed forces of his country, why do you think he did not implement what he unconditionally accepted by ordering his troops out of the occupied territory of a sovereign nation, and then talk about other outstanding matters? Please, do not tell me the TPLF Tigrai government hampered him not to do what got the approval of the parliament of his country.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Ismailo,

          You told him in unambiguous matter that the border issue is the responsibilities of the two leaders. And because of the fact you stated to him, our despot in his interview told the Eritrean people that the border issue is not his priority, but rather the Ethiopian internal politics is. If Abiy has accepted unconditionally to the arbitration ruling, the next step should have been both leaders to request Jointly to the United Nation security council to bring its cartographers to demarcate (put the marker on the ground), in order the Ethiopian forces to withdraw. That should be the sequence of enforcing the events. The Ethiopian army will not leave before it is demarcate. That is the for fact.

        • Dongolo

          Selam Ismail AA. You are 100% correct to criticize Abiy regarding his failure to withdraw Ethiopian troops from Eritrea. Curious, were you equally critical of Meles when he did the same?

          • Consolation

            Selam Dongolo,

            No, he was not. On the contrary, he was collaborating with Meles to destroy Eritrea. The reason the ELF cadres are exasperated with Abiy is because he made peace with Eritrea and threw them out of Ethiopia. As they say, it is futile to try to awaken someone who is feigning to be asleep. Don’t be fooled by their crocodile tears. These people hate Eritrea because the Eritrea that Shaebia liberated is constant reminder of their monumental failure. They did everything they possibly could to erase it from the map.

          • Sultan

            Dongolo:
            Your argument is so childish and naive!
            Dr AAA and/or PIA could have removed the army from Baduma within hrs but there are lots of factors and collateral damages you have to consider, unless u r one of the failed opposition gang members using this as a cheap propaganda.
            The Ethiopian army has been there for 20 yrs now and it is not fair to use force now with its deleterious collateral damages when it is possible to reclaim Baduma peacefully with no collateral damages.

            You know that Dr AAA tried to remove the army and its hardware from the Eri border including from Baduma but the TPLF and the Tigrai people blocked things!
            Dr AAA and his Federal Force could have overrun those human shields and the TPLF but he does not want to do that for obvious reasons since he does not want to be trapped in the trap the same enemies /TPLF has created for him!

            This is as simple as 2+2= 4 fact!
            Here is the hypocrisy:

            The failed opp gangs are cursing PIA for not taking over Baduma now when they were silent and supportive of being keeping Baduma under the TPLF!
            Prof SAAY, the spotless genuine opposition FIGURE said it, not me!

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Dongolo,

            Sorry for a bit late reaction. What I had in mind was declared position. Meles Zenawi did not endorse the border tribunal’s finding though the cessation of hostilities agreement, and what followed subsequently, stipulated abiding or endorsement of the commission’s ruling. He and his government wanted to renegotiate the implimentation phase and came up with five-point position statement. But Abij declared unconditional acceptance of the ruling, which reversed the position of his predecessors- Meles and Hailemariam Desalegn.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Ismail AA and many thanks for your reaction (not answer) to my question. The EEBC decision was clearly not subject to Meles’s (Ethiopia’s) endorsement as it was final and binding. Ethiopia failure to comply with the EEBC decision/Rule of Law and to thereafter endlessly play games (I.e. Five-Point Peace Proposal) while it advocated a strategy to Isolate Eritrea until it imploded is well known; add on continued unlawful strategic Ethiopian troop and civil population movement into Badme. The term Unconditional Acceptance only came about as a result of Meles (Ethiopia) reneging on the conditions of the peace agreement by refusing to accept the EEBC final and binding decision.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Dongolo,

            The points you mentioned are all correct. The politics that followed the ruling are all known. But the point we are discussing here now is about Dr. Abij’s “unconditional acceptance ” case, which suggests return to the “abiding” argument, or mandatory aspect of the ruling. Now, my question was why didn’t Abij simply order troop withdrawal, and asked the despot in our country to discuss related matters. The Ethiopian could have as well challenged the dictator for not obeying by the ruling, couldn’t he?. If observers opine they smell rat, it makes perfect sense. The duo, Abij and the dictator, are using the case for ploy to promote their interest. They are just happy to keep the matter open, as it has been.

          • Selam Ismail AA.,

            Do you really think that the regional government of tigray, tplf, has no role to play in the withdrawal of the army and border demarcation, when it is the one that signed the so-called “final and binding” agreement when it was ruling ethiopia, and the piece of land that should be returned to eritrea is also under its jurisdiction? Do you think that tplf will be indifferent to what Abiy may do, even though it is ready to fight for lands it incorporated to tigray since 1991, let alone badme which is an old story, looking at tplf’s obsession with war and its military parades, whether it is simply a show or otherwise? The tplf factor is important, because the decision will affect tigray, the regional state it rules.
            Last time when the ethiopian government tried to move part of the army from the borders, tplf sent women and children to block the road. The army had two choices, either to shoot its way through the blockade, which tplf wanted a lot, because it sustains itself through conflicts and martyrs, or the army had to move back to avoid a worse situation. Fortunately, it did the second.
            I hope you know the role played by tplf in this matter, but you present it as if it is non-existent. Let me ask you. Do you accept war to be fought in tigray between tplf and the people of tigray on one side and the federal army on the other, for the sake of a piece of land, thus condemning to death thousands of young people, while badme and the border as a whole could be solved some time in the future? I hope not.
            Eritrea waited for about 20 yrs when tplf slept on it. What is it going to lose, if it waits until tplf puts some sense into its head, unless political gain is the issue. Having in mind the renegade tplf and its war-mongering behavior, can you please tell us if there is a peaceful way to finish the border problem? Having in mind your rational ways, i am sure that you are not saying war must be fought no matter what for the sake of badme, because at this stage the only way to convince tplf is through war, and let us not forget that tplf is part of the solution, whether it accepts it or not..

      • Haile S.

        Selam Hashela,

        If the Ethiopian prime minister was under the complete spell of Isayas, do you think he allows Eritrean opposition leaders like Mesfin Hagos go through Addis Abeba to Mekele to discuss working with TPLF to remove his boss? Do you think he is so sophisticated and could have secret talk with Mesfin or he is oblivious incompetent he is not even aware of what is happening? I have difficulty believing the later possibility.
        Listening to Mr Negash Osman (a credible and smart politician; great to have him) interview on EriSat, I was intrigued by his tacit approval of Mesfin Hagos’s measures while he was bringing forward the right interrogation on sincerity of TPLF leaders and most importantly before doing nothing (not even have a solid plan) to meet them to hammer his concerns.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos,

      If the Eritrean demigod could take them anywhere including re-annexing Eritrea with Ethiopia, they will still ride him. Now Abiy told us that our 30 years of struggle is a lose that shouldn’t be waged, is another indication of the conspiracy against our sovereignty. Imagine Doctore, while our despot is doing his project to make us “one people” with Ethiopia, the cheering group keep saying wayane wayane day in day out. Zegerm iyu.

      • Hashela

        Selam Amanuel

        Berhe and I have been here long enough for you to know our stand with regard to the Isaias regime. So your characterization of our political stand is completely misplaced. Being critical of TPLF’s Eritrea politics does not mean one is for and with the PFDJ regime.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hashela,

          I don’t believe Berhe and yourself from the cheering group of Issayasism, But I do know that most of your time are spent on the wayane talking point, while the evil man at home is tearing our social fabric and above all the alarming project he is pursuing. While at it, I would like to Plea for you to keep your eye on the ball, on the home front.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            We don’t have the luxury to focus only on one threat. Both PFDJ and TPLF pose a serious challenge and threat to the existence of Eritrea as a sovereign nation.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            At this point Issayas and Abiy are the threat of our sovereignty – one who told us the thirty years of struggle is a waste and the other who told us we are one people with the Ethiopian people.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Do you know that Isaias is currently in the Carribean and is scheduled to visit the East Coast. Predictably, few will follow his path of destruction and others will barricade themselves.

            Whatever you decide to do, stay safe!

          • Sultan

            Prof Aman:
            So you still don’t believe that the TPLF has been a serious threat to our Sovereignty and Unity as well as our National Security, not only in and through their words and propaganda but through their action for the last 23 years!

            On the same token, with all due respect Prof, am asking and even challenging you as an Intellectual and Professor, not as a partisan and biased politician, to tell me a single speech or statement let alone in action by Dr AAA threatening Eritrea , its Sovereignty, Territorial Integrity and National Security … with facts and evidence though, not thru and with Innuendos,gossip, misinterpretations , assumptions and speculation !

          • Sultan

            Selam Prof Hashela:
            Am glad that you are not being labelled as a PFDJ Apologist for holding same stand like that of King Sultan.
            You could have asked same question Prof Aman Hidrat for being obsessed with cursing Dr AAA and adoring the TPLF rather than just focusing on our regime and our own business!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Brtohet Hashela,

            I 2nd our Aman in this point. I really don’t know why you and few our people are thinking in this style when they saw the act of those two evils (Our devil and Ethiopian devil) They are really planing to destroy our nationalism. See carefully Hashela. Don’t support it and think again..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Don’t worry about the Ethiopian devil. Take care of your devil first if you have got a drop of ሃሞት.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Abi,

            Are you sure? So what about asking ELF heroes and confirm..You are asking about my ሃሞት.? That is not fair gentle man..

            So, you want us to take care of Eritrea..will you take of Ethiopians? what about you just go back and remember, Ethiopian heroes killed by this crazy man? Are you serous…?

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            One thing I admire about you is your ability to put ‘ELF’ and ‘heroes’ together. It is amazing that you successfully put them together in one sentence. My device keep autocorrecting me every time I tried. I gave up.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            When Oromia, Amhara, Southern Nations and Nationalities including Somali regions or Killils are gone, Tigrai is the only bulwark standing that can stop not only Isaias but can be a buffer zone for Eritrea as well. And this is the basic logic where most Eritrean Opposition groups including Mesfin Hagos have finally internalized and throwing their lot for tactical alliance as well.

            A man who doesn’t have anything to show for his own fiefdom except misery and endless misery can not be expected to deliver the sun to Ethiopia with a violent history. For the life of me, people of average intelligence where one doesn’t have to be a brainy are missing this common sense particularly in this Forum when they keep flogging the Weyanes as if it hasn’t been enough. They keep flogging instead.

          • Hashela

            Selam Paulos

            You seems to be unusually nervous and agitated. Whatever the reason for your agitated state is, one hopes you find the help you need.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Paulos,

            All the ethnic unrest and instability concerns me to no end. It is a bold experiment that has worked for 30 years.. Just like you, what concerns even more is the appearance of PIA involvement in Ethiopian matters. I cannot believe Ethiopians in almost all position of leadership do not know this man very well, intimately well.

            I think you see PIA using PMAA for his own purposes. I see PMAA using PIA in a similar fashion. Only time will tell.
            The day PMAA cooperates with PIA in attacking or harming Tigray in any form is the day PMAA loses legitimacy on the part of many patriotic Ethiopians.
            Even though that nightmarish scenario is possible according to many talking heads, PMAA is sophisticated enough not to allow his crazy guest to re-arrange his home for him.
            It is crazy time, Pandemic, Dam-Egypt, Oromo divisions, Economic down turn, Organized jihadists, Neighborhood pressures and the ethnic sensitivities are all on the plate of this man.

            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            Although there are many from both sides, the tplf side and the other side, who would have liked to see war and destruction, on the contrary, PMAA is the person who will not allow this to happen. A person educated in conflict resolution, doesn’t stand for conflict. He has shown his stand on many occasions by condemning both sides who are working for conflict.
            Unexpected factors, such as provocation by rogue elements from both sides may create a situation where two regional states may find themselves at a war. Even then, i can say that he will do his best to avert it.
            Tplf is the problem and not tigray and its people. There is no reason whatsoever to start a war against a regional state to get rid of a rogue regional government, unless it turns against its own people.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            This part of your comment made me laugh out loud, “A person educated in conflict resolution”. We have heard the same mantra from mad mullah a thousand times, now we are hearing it from you. It looks you have an avatar on the other side of the ocean. Since Abiy rise to power we became the epicenter of all conflicts, elections postponed indefinitely, EPRDF dissolved illegally, PP became a government illegally, killing became the daily news, schools has became prison places, etc. My advise to you is let’s develop a culture of accepting wrongdoings.

            Thanks,

          • Selam Samuel,
            You spoke of the culture of accepting wrongdoings. I support you on that. Let’s start with tplf. Those who are hiding in mekele, those who killed, illegally incarcerated innocent ethiopians, and looted the country, let them come out of their hideouts and stand before the court of law. People like getachew asefa are protected by tplf and many other tplf criminals as well. The crimes of over three decades are weighing on their shoulders.
            Tplf killed and incarcerated people too silence them. If we became the epicenter of conflict, it is due to tplf’s ethnic federalism and its long destabilizing arm, thanks to the money it looted.

          • mad mullah

            Hello Horizon,
            Don’t take Samuel comments seriously. The man is peacemaker. He is bringing change to Horn on peace front and taking Ethiopia to next stage of development. He is going to encounter a lot roadblock and challenges from entrenched interests…

          • Selamat Horizon and Samuel,

            You too must come to terms and narrow your differences of opinions without the unnecessary emotional feelings and miss place categorizations of hero or goat to one or the other which adds zero value towards achieving Ethiopia’s destiny of greatness.

            The gains of Ethiopia due to all of the recent and distance past has been tremendous. There has been losses incurred and some may feel more to some than others as well as more gains than deserved to others than to some. There has been more sacrifices by some than others as well as more positive contributions which should be rewarded accordingly and so on and so forth. Both of you and all Ethiopians for a minute try and view Ethiopia as the stock market say your personal investment and the stock market as a whole. Horizon and Samuel know very well that the start market in the long run grows positively. While small and very large swings of gains and losses does occur in the duration. So, viewing Ethiopia as a the stock market in from the time the TPLF took over until the present reign of PM Abiy Ahmed, what do you too Ethiopians see? Has Ethiopia registered positive growth from 1991 to 2020? Are you two Ethiopians appreciative of the positive growth in the entirety of the said period?

            Think not of the short term up swings and especially the down swings particular who was the cause of the loses. Losses of the past such as leakage of assets and capital contribute absolutely nothing to better gains in the future. Recognize through the painful sacrifices you have gained the recognition to implement a better equitable control mechanisms for the elimination of the causes of loss that happened in the near and distance past. You must accept the truth to yourselves that it was okay to loose and be thankful that you have gained the lesson in the process.

            All Ethiopians are at a very crucial cross roads and are on the verge on making a reality of the most extraordinary and exemplary miracle for all the world to witness particularly the African continent.

            The political actors in the Ethiopian political arena are young and vibrant ranging from the mid forties to fifties average age. The political maturity and wisdom of the TPLF to patiently sideline itself and allow the political leaders of the new generation in all of the regions to emerge, mature and develop is commendable. The young leaders to excite the population and make the people feel they are indeed stake holders and do have a say to strive compete and strive for power has grossed more gains as well as painful loses. All Ethiopians at this very moment feel their share of burden and civic duty to better their united nation as a result of said gains and losses.

            The political processes and universal political maneuverings and wrestlings of the multiple recognized political leaders and actors with their respective constituencies and legitimate power bases consisted of significant painful tragedies, loss of life and properties, honest mistakes, tragical comedies and the blunders of young promising leaders with understandable blind spots that would steer the engine of progress better given a second chance.

            And that second chance is knocking at your door steps gentlemen.

            As it stands Horizon and Samuel should recognize the strong positions not only of their respective preferred parties but instead see that there exists now a strong formidable Prosperity Party lead by a very capable leader the PM Abiy Ahmed as well as a formidable strong Tigrai Regional government lead by the TPLF.

            Horizon must be honest to recognize the true value and future contributions that the TPLF should and deserves to play on the Ethiopia’s Federal Government’s Central stage. To have a share of the central government that could very well be much greater than that base of the 6% population share. Horizon must recognize the reality on the ground of the strong assets the Tigrai Region under the TPLF possesses that can be utilized positively towards the further strengthening the Ethiopian state of the union and imperative stability for forward progress to all. Horizon must take honest stock of the strong TPLF and how it could complement the strength of the Prosperity Party lead by PM Abiy Ahmed. Horizon selling the strength of PM Abiy and PP and the liability and weakness of the TPLF and the manipulation of separating the people of Tigrai from their leadership is not only untrue but also an exercise in futility with very undesirable grave consequences if further pursued.

            Samuel should recognize the power grab or attempt of consolidation by the young and relatively inexperience PM Abiy through the founding of the Prosperity Party as a positive experience that is no more unusual than the ordinary political gamesmanship same as the abundant occurrences in political history the democratic nations of this world. A premature, not well thought out political move of a youthful enthusiastic young political leader with understandable significant blind spot who did not necessarily have malice intent for any Ethiopian in particular Tigrai and the TPLF. Political maneuvering that was out maneuvered by the more experience and matured TPLF political leaders in possession and full control of the political resources and arms and a much broader angle view of the Ethiopian societies than did the developing young and promising Political leader PM Abiy Ahmed.

            The entire process and events of the recent past has strengthened and matured both the TPLF and the Prosperity Party under their respective leadership. Horizon and Samuel would best serve Ethiopia’s interests by focusing of all the strength the TPLF and the PP under their respective leadership have to offer as opposed to reverting to partisan and divisive political gamesmanship which will be the major if not only cause for Ethiopia to miss this golden opportunity it finds itself at present.

            I will be glad to point out the explicit strengths possess by all parties in the current Ethiopian political arena that are vital to Ethiopia at this critical junction and historical moment. Now is the time to put partisan political games and now is the time to put the breaks on the extremism of political competitiveness to register win for your side and a loss for the others. Now is the time to focus on a win for Ethiopia which is a win win for all Ethiopian sides. Do not hesitate to ask your friends who want you to win it because it is not weakness to ask a friend how you should proceed.

            We Eritreans can benefit from observing the political maturation and sophistications of the arrival to an optimal and mutually beneficial solution for Ethiopia by Horizon and Samuel. We are starved for exemplary leadership of our neighbors. This golden opportunity for Ethiopia and the exemplary resolution will be a feast that satisfies not only Ethiopians, Eritreans but a lot more.

            We are counting on the wisdoms of Ethiopians. PEACE!

            GitSAtSE

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam GitSAtSE,

            I second the post.
            By unanimous consent it is part of the agenda.

            I reclaim my time, to say Thank You!

            Mr. K.H

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

            Isaias is brilliant through and through. And he is extremely focused with a knack for picking people’s weaknesses and strengths when he manipulates the former vice to his own advantage. That said, with close to 50 years and surviving through the muddle of political intrigue in a region infamous for its volatility is way of the chart to even compare it with a neophyte who doesn’t even have the intelligence much less the sophistication.

            Moreover, Isaias has always been an elusive and a mystery person who left people speculate about his moves and intentions, so much so that he was only 26 years old when he joined the struggle–a field rife with a divided vision where religious and ethnic pronouncements were too vivid to miss. Instead, he coalesced his own group of people with deep rooted resentment of the then sectarian realities. He morphed the organization into a sense of mission not so much with a vision but to make himself an undisputed leader of the entire region in general. He clearly understood that, the mission takes tremendous patience and cold calculations including eliminating rivals, ideologues and true believers. The ultimate prize is Ethiopia where Eritrea was an ephemeral prize if not a pawn. The last force standing in his way are the Weyanes where Abiy is a pawn among the many pawns Isaias used and discarded before. It is a foolhardy to mistake Isaias for a leader of a statesman when he is not as Abiy recently tried to reinvent him and that is a bad sign on Abiy’s part where the damage for the once hopeful Ethiopia is frightening.

          • mad mullah

            Hello Paulos,
            I wish half things you say were true.. At the end, IA is just another amoral feudal lord that will put his people thru hell… Ultimate prize is Ethiopia? He can’t even manage his own country with largest exporter of refugee… lowest on human development scale.
            It seems what you are portraying is a drunken warlord fantasy nothing more or less…

          • Paulos

            Sure thing brother. Sure thing.

          • Sultan

            Kim:
            In the world of kim et al, what the TPLF has done against PIA and his Eritrea as well as Eritreans for the last 20 yrs as well as against Dr AAA and his ETHIOPIA within the last two yrs is “ tsidkinna”!????

            Where were you when PIA and his Eritra and Eritreans were isolated, contained, sanctioned and choked up to a near death other than clapping your hands and celebrating covertly and overtly even here in the very Eritrean website?

            For God’s sake,can u use a common sense ?

            It is not PIA nor Dr AAA dividing the Oromos and making them cut their each other’s neck and destroy their own infrastructure and properties.

            I call this beyond anarchism and animalism even though animals follow and obey basic commands and mamma nature’s law.
            It is beyond me !

            You know EXACTLY as to who is sponsoring the civil war and the destruction in OROMIA, don’t you?
            You also know that Dr AAA and your current messy Ethiopia cannot survive for a day without PIA , for better or bad!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Sultan,

            Oh Boy!!, your statement of …….”Ethiopia cannot survive for a day without PIA” took my breath away. I haven’t heard of such a BRAVADO for a long time.

            You asked me to use common sense and immediately jumped into political relativity theory. As far as where I was the last 20 years when TPLF (ETHIOPIA) was chocking Eritrea, I was right here.
            Let me tell you what I saw.
            Ethiopia took land back that was taken by force from her. When PIA’s Eritrea realized that they cannot use force again, they started to chock themselves. It was a curious thing. You cannot stop someone who wants to commit suicide, you know.

            When someone comes along and says stop chocking yourself I will give you what you want, he becomes instantly an enemy to most. There is no winning.

            For some reason, Sultan, you sound so familiar to me. Twenty years is a long time…… a lot of water under the bridge.

            Mr. K.H

          • Sultan

            Selam Kim:
            Glad you responded with a knee jerk style reaction, my whole point to set you up to do so!
            Understandably, you ignored my whole message .
            My core message:
            -PIA and of Dr AAA have a legit right politically speaking to do any and everything to defend themselves from the terror and destabilizing actions by the same TPLF you conveniently ignored to criticize or to blame, when you had to, based on facts at your finger points!
            -The TPLF didn’t take back any land that belongs to it or to Ethiopia but it had done what it did for obvious reasons abd agenda/ dreams
            -PIA Made a “ legitimate” mistake to overreact to the repeated provocations by same TPLF but he admitted ,even though belatedly,for making that mistake and he welcomed any peaceful means of resolving the border, which, btw,repeatedly begged for it and offered the TPLF way before the Baduma incident .
            -It was not necessary for your TPLF to declare an unnecessary war of invasion on Eritrea and cause irreparable damage on Eritrea and Eritreans due to simple mistake by PIA and simply Eritreans used to call them Agxxxmx or inferior !
            Regrettably, you still sound supporting that crime against humanity,recklessness chaos and military adventure just for the sake of teaching a lesson to the innocent Eritreans by breaking up their spinal cord and choking them up to near death so as to make them die a slow death!

            After 2yrs , the same Kim Hana, quite well familiar to King Sultan, who at one point told Sultan, that there is NO SUCH THING a nation CALLED Eritrea,is repeating history by making same bravado .

            My bravado?
            Well, here are the facts:
            -PIA could have broken or Balkanize the Ethiopia of 1991 into pieces
            -PIA effectively quarantined the Horn Cancer and once again repeated history by giving back the Rule to where it belongs to in one way or another !!!
            PIA still could have Balkanize Ethiopia by accepting an Independent Oromia.
            If the TPLF is easily destabilizing Ethiopia through a remote control, you can imagine what that well experienced Dude could have done if he wants to do so.

            But he has proven to,otherwise, time again that he has stood firm to keep a United Ethiopia, and yet, Ato Kim is disgracefully cursing PIA ;and worse, by default and indirectly, crediting the TPLF, which has led to the mess Ethiopia is engulfed now.

            No Eritrean is denying the mess PIA has created in Eritrea among Eritreans but rest assured that we shall take care of things.

          • mad mullah

            Hello Sultan,
            You really have lost it now. Please don’t make our Feudal warlord from Tembian anything more than drunken denqorocrat into a superman. He is largest exporter of refugee in the world. The economy is in ruin. People suffering for 20 years in indefinite national service.
            Everytime I see his interview you kind tell… he had a few drinks before hand…
            oh.. I forgot he also closed university…
            Come back to real world brother…
            Look at the worst passports to have in the world.
            Somalia Eritrea Ethiopia
            https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php?f=afr

          • Sultan

            Mad mullah:
            I hear u but I was responding to Kim.

          • Consolation

            Mad Mullah,

            Most of the refugees in Europe, USA, Canada and Australia claiming to be Eritreans are not Eritreans, All those Tigrayans, Amharas and Oromos we see demonstrating got their asylum by claiming to be Eritreans. In fact, even Somalis and Sudanes were claiming to be Eritreans to get asylum. Unfortunately for you, the 50,000 Tigrayans who are rotting in Yemen and Saudi Arabia cannot claim to be Eritreans. In fact, a few years back, Saudi Arabia deported 175,000 Ethiopians many of whom where Tigrayans.

            About Issu, he made TPLF and he could have turned Ethiopia into Yugoslavia if he wanted to. But he didn’t and Ethiopians should be grateful to him that he made sure the dirty TPLF thugs did not accomplish their criminal intent to disintegrate Ethiopia.

            This video is about your compatriots flooding Yemen.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAaXmyXXNgU

          • mad mullah

            Hello Consolation,
            That seem wishful thinking on your part. You see I have traveled to Sudan, South Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda, Ethiopia, Kenya, etc…. I have met my share of Eritrean Refugees. I have relatives who traveled from Eritrea to south sudan to rwanda to columbia to mexico, etc… trying to enter the united states…
            There might be case of Ethiopia or somalia claiming to be Eritrean.. However, that doesn’t change the fact that we have about one million eritrean in sudan since 1968 and we have about 100k in ethiopia… we are largest exporter of refugee in the world excluding war-torn countries…

          • Consolation

            MM.

            You mean to tell me Tigrayans seek refuge only in Yemen and Saudi Arabia? That is ridiculous. If there are 50,000 Tigs rotting in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, is it logical to claim that there are none in those countries you mentioned? The funny thing is that all of them claim to be Eritreans. How did all those young Tigrayans and Oromos chanting “down, down Ethiopia” end up in Europe and the USA. Of course, by claiming to be Eritrean citizenship.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Sultan,

            You have been holding on to this …QEEM for years and years, it is not good for you.
            To make matters worse, I am positive I didn’t say it the way you took it or understand it.
            Proof is easy. Tell us the circumstances and put a quote mark on what I said. I have a vague recollection over somewhat of Utopian description. I am sure I could have replaced Ethiopia for Eritrea to make the same point.
            Can you tell me your other aliases.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            You asked about his other aliases
            How do you like the list?
            1 Alphabetical
            2 Chronological
            3. People names
            4. Object names
            5 adjectives
            6 other

          • Sultan

            Kim:
            I edited my comment and u can find my alias or consult “Prof Doctor“ Detective Abinet , the Visiting Professor of Forensic Studies @ The Awate University!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Sultan, Abi

            I knew there was somebody behind the Sultan. Reading your comments took me back in time but I am not sure if it rings a bell if you tell me you were so and so. That is the problem with nicks.

            Mr. K.H

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            So it all boils down to this: a friend of my enemy is my enemy.

            If you and your cohorts manage to replace your own leader and replace him with a new one, our leader will gladly accept him and work with the new Eritrean leader in the interest of his and hopefully your people.
            Did you see what happened in the change of leadership in the Sudan, the transition for PMAA was seamless.

            Therefore, do your homework, instead of blaming others for your own inadequacy. Do you want PMAA to go back to the boarder war like his predecessors and cause additional misery for the poor people on both sides just so that some Eritrean diaspora opposition parties are happy. Absolutely not.

            We have plenty of our own problems to address without inventing additional misery.
            I sometimes get so discouraged when otherwise reasonable people like you become unreasonable and irrational.

            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Mr. Kim Hanna,

            This guy’s power of reasoning is completely dysfunctional when it concerns the ethiopian pm. He is serving two masters, tplf and eritrea. Nevertheless, it is tplf that takes the lion’s share of his time.
            As much as he is concerned, Abiy is not only the enemy of tplf and eritrea, but even that of the whole world. He loses his rational thinking whenever it is about his nemesis, Abiy. That is why he is slandering, character assassinating, smear campaigning, and blackening his reputation, day and night, as if he is on a mission. He could be. Abiy is his obsession and his nightmare, the person that deprived him off his sleep, makes him lose his appetite, and all the rest. Somebody should tell him that hate to such extent is detrimental, much more to himself than to his victim.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,

            I don’t know if I go that far but Amanuel told us in plain English that anyone who is a friend of PIA is his enemy.
            That is a faulty logic. National leaders behave in a different temperament than the average Joe. President Trump is a good “friend” of Kim of North Korea as he says. It really is an irrelevant aspect of their job. They all act in their own national interest with the advice of many and things can change on a dime at any moment.

            I was alerted the other day, when Amanuel posted a YouTube where someone calling for Oromo demonstrators to continue the demonstration. I thought that was telling. That is not wishing well for your neighbor, I certainly do not wish ill for them.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim + Horizon
            Apparently, Ato Amanuel prefers suffering from COVID 19 than talking to you. Consider yourselves lucky when he took his valuable time talking to you.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,

            The level of emotions is a big factor, I think.
            Arsenal vs Chelsea …finally they came through.
            I hoped you watched it.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            I watched the game.
            I’m glad Arsenal won. They will be playing in Europa League.

          • A.Osman

            Selamat Abi,

            Not picking on you, as there may be worse comments being said, but with all the differences we may have, overtime I have come to know Abi when not wearing his punching gloves.

            I have not been following the discussion for a number of days, all I can say, come on you are bigger than that! You don’t need to repeat such insensitive comments.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Saleh Johar

            Ras Abi,
            You can be above such wicked wishes. It’s low and unbecoming of you. Pleas revise you approach. A little sensitivity is needed. Human decency should not be compromised for petty political urges. Thank you

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            AOsman
            David
            What are you guys talking?
            Amanuel Hidrat, in his response to Aligaz said, he prefers suffering from COVID 19 than talking to useless people. He said this just after he came back after his long absence due to Covid 19.
            His words , not mine. I believe him.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,

            I know he said what he said to emphasize his point. It was on his mind. There are a lot of specific things you and I don’t know to talk about such a calamity visit on any one of us.
            There are those of us over a certain age who are very sensitive on this topic for ourselves and our family members.

            I am always happy to debate with Amanuel Hidrat with various topics, heck, I have been fighting him all day today.

            In the old neighborhood, Kazanchis, us kids had a dictum, no below the belt hits. Just to add to the chorus.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            Days after he told us that he prefers suffering from Covid 19 than talking to useless people, we learned about his wife’s untimely passing.
            When he was arrogantly bluffing about his high standards, and carefully selecting the people who should be in his phone book, his wife was suffering from the same disease. Go figure!
            I HATE arrogant people who pretend to be of the highest standards.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,

            I am sorry to have made matters worse.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            Don’t worry.
            The moderator is exercising his veto power. It doesn’t bother me.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abi,

            This is not the first time—in fact, 3 or 4 times— for you to bring up personal issues into public disclosure. What is Emma’s issue has to do with politics? You have also shown the same behaviour towards Kokeb. We all know Kokeb’s mental issue, but it is cheap for you to bring up to score a point. I am sickened by the attitude you are showing on this forum. Most of us enjoy your one line wit and always see the irony of comments, but you are gone beyond human decency. I feel you must harbour lots of anger to express it in public. Is not crocodile tears to care about someone’s well-being but only to wish them bad ills? I know many people get shocked seeing your language, but I do not give a monkey if you feel Assab is yours; you can have Eritrea at your will. If I were a moderator of this site, I will give you a break, not that you have broken any from’s rules, but it is not “unHabesha” to behave the way you did to Emma and Kokeb. I know you are through and through Habesha, but you are not behaving like one.

            Some of us have seen our families and friends succumb to this awful disease and is not something we take it for humour and joke. It affects us deeply and you are only making our anguish worse.

            Please cut out your anger and crap and should stop
            brining people’s issue onto the forum. I for one will not engage you if you do
            not stop it.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Horizon,

            The description you gave fits you as well when you talk about Trump. I hope the very mention of his name will not trigger you.

          • Selam S.K.,

            Do you really understand what is happening in the horn of Africa? Here is a region where peace, stability and normal life was destroyed more than half a century ago and still counting, and yet you come to awate to defend the most useless president that the US has ever seen. People are here to defend the peace and bread of the poor people of the horn, while you defend white supremacists, the far right, Zionists, etc., simply because you believe that they may help you in your crazy idea of forming the mythical agaziland that cropped up into your mind, at the time of your frustration.
            Indeed, you must know very well your priorities, but not the priorities of the poor people. Maybe you think that they deserve what has become of them, because you believe that they are people of a lower caste. Maybe you believe that Trump has a solution for Eritrea. He may help you create your agaziland of superior nomads, who may have crossed the region on their way to some place where there was enough grass for their cattle.
            Trump showed us his beautiful plan for Ethiopia, and the ethiopian government beautifully dumped it, and thus he lost that beautiful NPP.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Horizon,

            I knew it, Trump’s name will trigger you.

            You are a dim wit but you think otherwise.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            I don’t play around the bush like many in this forum. I told you straight forward that “ a friend of my enemy is my enemy.” My attitude is: know your enemy to know how to engage your fighting. Abiy is clear the enemy to the aspiration of the Eritrean people. In doing so he told us the 30 years of struggle for self-determination is a waste, hoping our despot to materialize the “one people” he promised him publicly. If this is not my enemy, who is then. Bank it for future reference.

            Second Abiy can not make relationship with any leader for the interest of other people. It is only for Ethiopian people, even that if has the knowhow how to govern your diversity. Don’t feel bad when I said he is our enemy, because he is at this juncture. You might be happy on his relationship with our despot. Because Isu is offering the Eritrean “security forces” to protect his throne. Did you aware that the Eritrean “security apparatus” is working in full swing inside Ethiopia? You see Kim you arguing for the interest of your county at the cost of Eritrean people.

            Third the issue of “borders” is the issue of government. We don’t want him to wage another border war. What we wanted him to do is to implement the decision of EEBC. Where is “we accept without conditions”? What we know is still the Ethiopian Federal army on the occupied area, Leaving aside all the excuses with his new friend Isu, the UN Security Council are ready to help them in demarcating the border if they are ready both government. Now we knew it that he did what he did for public consumption. He screwed our people on the empty hope, and they still clapping on the empty peace of the two leaders (not the two countries) that no one knows its detail. I can not be cheated by this new rookie politician who is entangled in the mess Ethiopian politics. I leaved longer in politics than him.

            Last but not least, don’t be discouraged by me, for eventually you will know the truth I am talking before the game of their politics find its own end. That is what I could tell you.

          • Consolation

            Hello,

            Then it shouldn’t be hard for you to understand that a lackey of the Weyane is a despised enemy of Eritreans!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            If there is a change of mind in PMAA or a new leader tomorrow acts and closes the border with Eritrea as long as PIA is president, you applaud the enemy of your enemy.

            I wonder if you go further than that. PMAA (new leader) goes to Asmara to remove your enemy from power.
            Do you think it is a reasonable position to hold. Do we consider the people living around that boarder. God forbid, how about the poor soldiers on both sides. Thank God the paradigm is changed.

            The leader of each country is primarily responsible for his/her own people.
            I don’t blame PIA for being a bosom friend of El-SiSi of Egypt. I blame him for other things.

            In any case, as they say, let us agree to disagree.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            I made my case that Abiy is the enemy of the Eritrean people. I gave you plausible political reasons. And as a principle, I will fight against him on all political fronts. You don’t have to agree with me because you will contradict with the interest of your country. Therefore, your position is understandable. I can not go further than this.

          • Teodros Alem

            aman h
            U think fighting is opening up ur mouth on the internet? u can’t even fight coron, not u ido but pia himself gave up fighting ethiopia, the reason pia made peace with ethiopia is cus he knows what was going on to eri and to himself and he is smart enough to know he can’t fight but u, u can’t even fight me let alone Emptor Abiy Ahmed Ali.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat Prof. Emma/Doterre,
        When they telling us the rookie PM is not the enemy, that draw the line.
        Some of these are unfortunately with Permanent head Damage [PhD].
        ኣይትብከ ንድዩ ዘብክየኒ ዘሎ። ናትና ነገር ‘ኳ ተገላብጦሽ ዩ ኴኑ።
        Typical HGDF 2.0

      • Paulos

        Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

        I don’t have any doubt in my mind that it was the talking point with Isaias in private as well. Abiy is adding more to the Gedli Romantics including to the series of books in line with titles, ናብ ሳሕል ወሪድና እንታይ ኣምጺና!

        The bottom line is that, Abiy doesn’t have any compunction with his repeated nonchalant attitude when the receiving end is at pains so much so that it is tantamount to desecrating the honor of the fallen heros who made it possible so that Eritrea achieves independence. The spin is already in motion to absolve Abiy where one can only imagine if it was said by Debretsion or Getachew Reda instead.

        • Hashela

          Selam Paulos

          ” desecrating the honor of the fallen heros who made it possible so that Eritrea achieves independence.”

          Believe or not, in 2000 TPLF did exactly what you said above.

    • Sultan

      Selam Dottore:

      I listened to him ( Dr AAA)but was not sure what your point was!

      He genuinely expressed and testified about the genuine INNOCENCE of Eritreans telling us that Eritreans deserve nothing else but PEACE and Tranquility!
      He also said this:
      “ We failed to win Eritreans militarily and by force and the ONLY way to win their heart(s)is through a genuine love ONL”!

      Plus, remember that he is a Politician and Diplomat, who is dreaming to see a United and ONE HORN, not just a United Ethiopia and Eritrea , which he is entitled to dream”!

      And in a big contrast, you know what the TPLF and its elite along with its supporters have said and done !

      “ We shall DESTROY the spinal cord of Eritrea”
      “ We shall make Eritrea and Eritreans to die a slow death by all means possible”!

      Not only they declared the above but have done their best ability in action to destroy Eritra and Eritreans!

    • Abi

      Paul
      Either you don’t understand Amharic or you are just lying big time.
      PMAA was responding to Dr Aregawi when he said the above statement. You picked up a line from his response and trying to make a point.
      He said that he will never send an army to Tigray to fight Tplf. He mentioned the war in Eritrea to show that war is not the answer for everything. ጦርነት ያከስራል ነው ያለው:: ጦርነት ያወድማል ነው ያለው:: ጦርነት ይገድላል ነው ያለው:: ጦርነት የችግሮች ሁሉ መፍትሄ አይደለም ነው ያለው:: እንኳን ከትግራይ ህዝብ ጋር መዋጋት ይቅርና ኤርትራ ላይ የጠፋው ህይወት ያንገበግበኛል ነው ያለው:: ኤርትራ ላይ የፈሰሰው ደም ይቆጨኛል ነው ያለው: ኤርትራ ላይ የተከሰከሰው አጥንት ይቆጨኛል ነው ያለው::
      ምን እንዲል ነበር የፈለግኸው?
      ትግራይ ላይ እዘምታለሁ ፈረሴን ጫኑ እንዲል ነው ፍላጎትህ?

      • Hashela

        Abi

        Thank you for clarifying. I suspected that the statement was taken out of context. Out of desperation, Paulos is fishing in a muddy pond. PM Abiy and Isaias are denying TPLF the skirmish it wanted so desperately.

        • Selam Hashela,

          You might have heard the “ጦር ኣውርድ፣” fiasco. A king got bored of sitting on his throne, and he was charging at walls, trees, etc, riding on his horse whenever he got the chance, and at the same time shouting “ጦር ኣውርድ፣”. When the war he was asking for finally came, he lost his head. That was the tragic story.

        • Abi

          Hashela
          He took a line from a ten minute response to Dr Aregawi .
          ‘Dangerous when wounded‘ apply here. Desperate is understatement.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            As predicted, the preparation of ኮሮሾ is under way.

            “ደሃውን የትግራይ ህዝብ ለማይቀረው ውጊያ የሚውል የእንጀራ መዋጮ ኣድርጉ በሚል ወያኔ ህዝቡን መከራውን እያበላው ይገኛል”

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I don’t think it is posted for entertainment purposes at all.
            The Fenkil leader said the same thing.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Well, then it is only a question of time until the poor Tigrayans are asked to coral they donkeys and mules. The former for the ኮሮሾ and the latter for the meanwhile aging arsonists. Provided some donkeys has survived TPLF’ infamous slaughter house.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            You need to update your logistics ASAP.
            The Tplf አዛውንት can’t eat ኮሾሮ. They need liquified food or ገአት ( ገንፎ) three times a day. Tube feeding is also an option when the going gets tough. You also forgot to remind them to pack boxes and boxes of diapers with baby power.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Laughing hard, I can’t type properly

          • Abi

            Hashela
            No one matches Tplf’s cruelty.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            You are right, no one can top them. With all the evil things they have done, one wonders whether their conscience allows them to have a good sleep.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            You can sense the desperate conditions that the Tplf thugs found themselves in by the sleepless activities their activists showing in this forum.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Hashela and Ras Abi,

            I am serious about what I am about to say below, so please, both of you, put your serious faces…now.

            You should have your own YouTube (TV) show!

            You read each other well, you are both intelligent as well as street smart aka Arada aka Wedi Shuq aka Wedi Asmara.

            Even when you say something silly, there is a certain aesthetic value to it.

            Think about it.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            I don’t have a serious face. Last time I tried to look serious my First Lady called the psychiatry department. She was worried:)

          • Hashela

            Selam Fanti

            ሕጂስ ሕሉፍ ሐሊፍካ ምስ ጦር-ሰራዊት ክትቆርነኒ! In a forum full of deadly serious people, you and Haile are the few who understand our silliness.

            In case you have overlooked, I did answer your interesting question about the Sahara. Check it out!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Hashela,

            I had read your great response regarding Sahara at the time, but I couldn’t up vote to “mark it as read” because I was not logged in to disqus at the time. Thanks again.

          • Hashela

            Fanti

            Does it make sense for you?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Hashela,

            Yes, indeed. It confirms the little reading I had made regarding heat, reflection, and trapping.

          • Hashela

            Selamat Fanti

            It is interest to note that without the partial trapping of the outgoing radiation (heat) by greenhouse gases, the surface temperature of the planet would be significantly below the freezing point of water, meaning no liquid water. If we assume that presence of liquid water is essential for the evolution of complex life, its follows without greenhouse gases no life in this planet. Greenhouse gas is a double edged sword.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Paulo,

      Thanks for the link, I will listen later. I read however Abi and Hashela comments and kind of get what it is about.

      A couple of points to clarify and I done why you, Emma and MM try to twist.

      1) I am neither a support or oppose Abiy on what he does in his country Ethiopia including Tigray. It’s for Ethiopians to sort out. Like everyone else I have my opinion on issues.

      My support or oppose to Abiy is when it’s related to Eritrea.

      I support him:

      1) when he decided to accept the EEBC ruling and extend hand to make peace with Eritrea.

      2) I support him when he decided to use the port if Aseb, Ethiopian flying to Asmara, opining of the boarder etc. It makes the sure economic and political isolation of Eritrea better including his support for lifting the sanctions. Isayas and his regime are the most who benefit from this, but I see this as stepping stone to their demise. That is when economy gets better, when people taste better freedom, when the PFDJ and the generals get to relax, then cracks start to happen for the people / young to exploit and remove the regime. Now the young are in survival mode, the only option is fight or flight. They chose to flight.

      2) As long as he is preaching and acting for peace, I see Eritrea future is better and sooner or later, IA will be gone and will be easy to pick up and move on.

      TPLF

      1) they can do what pleases them within their country.
      2) they should not care what the problem the eritrean people have with PFDJ. They had a chance when they were in power and their support could mean something, now it means nothing.
      3) they should not under no circumstances involve in conflict with Eritrea unless they are attacked.
      3) they should not use the Eritrean opposition as a cover for their own long term advantage.
      4) opposing TPLF and opposition plans does not mean supporting IA. [STOP IT]

      Here is some facts for you.

      Haile DureE said in Germany.

      1) we have defeated [shabia], if it’s not for the Eritrean people and army.

      2) Samuel said about TPLF “know your enemy very well”. It’s the best hint he gave you.

      3) Saay said around 2000 PFDJ must be dissolved and be replaced by Eritrean people chosen government. He said if not, it will be destroyed by TPLF. Because in its entire history, TPLF destroyed all other groups that it opposes.

      Question for you.

      1) Do you think TPLF really needs the opposition help to fight PFDJ? What can the opposition provide (where ever they are). In real world, ZERO. So I don’t know why you guys are saying Zeraf with Mesfin Hagos.

      2) Did it occur to you that TPLF wants to split the Eritrean people (those who oppose war with Eritrea / and those who support it to remove IA/PFDJ).

      3) Did it occur to you that TPLF will not win a war against the Eritrean people and the Eritrean army if they are behind the Eritrean army?

      4) is this why you guys are going crazy when people will not endorse your idea of being fire and war to our country and people and destroy our selves.

      Agree or disagree the removal of Saddam or Gaddafi by the US and the West. The fact is, the war war brought to Iraq and Libya and the people and the country is destroyed. Are the people of Iraq and Libya benefited ?

      The US and West, bombed what they need to bomb, destroyed what needs to be destroyed and stole what needs to be stolen and left. They country, their society is in tact, save some dead and wounded soldiers.

      Your plan is the same as to what happened in Iraq and Libya. TPLF will destroy what they need to destroy and leave Eritrea in shutters. And take what ever they need to take and leave.

      You know IA has no support of Eritrean people and no capacity to destroy TPLF.

      Is this what you want for Eritrea and it’s future?

      Where is your loyalty? To Eritrea and Eritrean people or to TPLF?

      Our issue with PFDJ is internal matter, tell them to stay the hell out.

      Berhe

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Berhe,

        I am sorry you read only the political cover of the so called peace agreement. No body know the detail of their agreement – neither the Ethiopian parliament nor the Eritrean cabinet. You are bought to their empty rhetorics.

        Second, you don’t want to hear to the conspiracy in the cooking, against our sovereignty, willfully. You don’t want to mention the threatening utterance of the two evil leaders who are trying to reverse our independence. Am I not right Berhe? There is no twist in our comment, it is our expression of concerns on your stand.

      • Samuel

        Selam Berhe Y,
        You said “2) Samuel said about TPLF “know your enemy very well”. It’s the best hint he gave you.”

        I am not sure how you understood it, but my point was generally knowing your enemy helps you to minimize risks, and it brings you a solution. The point I made was related with Abiy’s case, however it works for everyone.

        This applies to you as well, first know your number one enemy then try to know about your enemy, how they operate, etc. If Eritrea’s number one enemy is IA/PFDJ then try to unlock how IA/PFDJ operate. My two cents, when you try to identify your core enemy you should be careful not to be biased because it could work against you.

        Another thing, you are mixing intellectual views/discussions with political alliance. Just because someone is pro cultural federalism it doesn’t mean he/she is pro TPLF. Ethiopia’s constituency is completely different from Eritrea’s constituency. Considering Ethiopia’s constituency and history ethnic federalism is relatively better solution than geography based federalism, however in Eritrea ethnic federalism doesn’t work, the simple reason to that is because the history, population size, territory, etc. does’t support it. It is just science.

        For example, let me repeat what I said yesterday —
        Take Sidama’s referendum for example, the Sidama people voted 98% for self-determination, what does it show you? it shows you that the Nation Nationalities in Ethiopia are happy with the self-determination part of the constitution (Article 39). How can one intellectual be against this public interest? If people voted freely, then we need to have a culture to accept the need of the majority. This is not a secret, this is a fact we have witnessed last year. The current Ethiopia Election Board approved it. Thus, if someone says ethnic federalism good for Ethiopia it doesn’t mean he/she is pro TPLF.

        Take developmental state economic ideology, in the last 27 years Ethiopia has shown great progress to alleviate poverty, it was one of the fastest growing economy in the world. This data has been supported by IMF, world bank and other international economic organizations. The developmental state has worked in East Asia too, thus if someone believes Ethiopia has to continue the developmental state it has started, it has nothing to do with TPLF. It is just pure science. Let’s try to avoid our biasness, we have to differentiate intellectual views and political alliance.

        Last but not least, try to know the number one enemy of your country, then you have to work smart to solve it. Let me finish with Albert Einstein quote — “doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition insanity”. You have blamed TPLF for 30 years, if that didn’t bring result then you need to change either strategy or tactic.

        Thanks,

        • Selamat Samuel,

          “You have blamed TPLF for 30 years, if that didn’t bring result then you need to change either strategy or tactic.”

          I think you must have missed that Berhe_Y AArkey has intact changed his strategy and tactic. He said it above. He is recommending non interference or non disturbance of the status quo in Eritrea. He is recommending for continuing the peace rapprochement between PM Abiy and DIA and believes things will get better economically for the Eritrea youth and then they will find an opening for them to get rid of DIA.
          Berhe_Y AArkey is very wrong on this. He is neglecting to see that whatever very little gains the Eritrean youth may get from DIA’s and Abiy’s peace preaching could be lost and regress decades backwards due to contingent events more than likely caused by the decisions of a single megalomaniac’s decision and command. For example, in the very possible event of PM Abiy’s loss of power as Ethiopia’s head of state Berhe_Y should realize that the Eritrean youth would suffer all the gains he speaks of considering that the current peace agreement’s is based on PM Abiy’s survival. Not to mention the megalomaniac DIA may command an order for the Eritrean Defense Forces to attack the TPLF. Sitting for things to get better on its own is just not going to alleviate Eritreans from their miserable circumstances now and in the future. There are thousands of DIAs groomed inside Eritrea including DIA’s son Abraham.

          I don’t think Berhe_Y should be dismissive of any changes of strategies and tactics Eritreans are seeking in order to continuously and actively participate and change their circumstances. We Eritreans should be actively proposing new strategies and tactics as, have thorough discussions about them and actively improve them and give all of our efforts for their success. This includes General Mesfun Hagos’ recent rapprochement with the TPLF.
          And this fear and distrust of the TPLF which is mostly partly do the Eritrean Opposition’s shortcomings as much as the TPLF’s is not a logical reason to wish or reject any influence from TPLF and Tigray which can meet essential necessities for Eritrea’s overall success. Tigray’s physical proximity to Eritrea alone influences the direction of Eritrea. It is naive or lazy to say stay out of Eritrea’s affairs. It is imperative for Tigray under any administration to play a role and assist Eritreans to succeed on their just cause. There fore Eritreans must engage and seek the more stronger and stable Tigray and request only what help they need in exchange for a more peaceful stable Eritrea that will inevitably return big dividends through trade of material goods as well as the mutual growth of a more civilized culture as well as intellectual property.
          Berhe_Y AArkey’s exhibiting emotional resentments towards the TPLF for past mistakes, errors and losses in the dynamics and relations that we all know is a continuous work in progress is absolutely irrational. To have spoken and expressed such sentiments however is a plus and only means that we Eritreans, even if it remains here in this forum, will have rational and civil conversations about all the options and scenarios on the table in order to chart out the pass of the object of our collective concerns. And at the moment it is bettering Eritreans mutual respect and mutual benefits relations with Tigrai, under the TPLF leadership until there is a change of the guard possibly as early as September’s elections in Tigray Region.

          But first an adjustment of the decibels, treble and base of the sounds coming out from the rigidity of the shouting between the Berhe_Y and Ayya Amanuel Hidrat for example is what is needed. A need to apply my conflict resolution skills acquired through osmosis from PM Dr. Abiy Ahmed. Which reminds me of this reasoning with regards to Eritrean Opposition relations with Tigray and the TPLF. If trying again after failing and then failing to try again then it could be said that to try again and again is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. So Samuel AArkey, what does Albert Einstein know. Am I wrong if I say let the Eritreans try again and again to have better relations with Tigray and the TPLF. And certainly Eritreans and Tigreans should expect a much different result. So how about on your part Samuel address all the genius Einsteins in the making at Mekkele University and solicit innovative proposals from them on how it is that Eritreans and Tigraians produce a much better and different expectation than our past dealings in the near and far future. And then deliver them for all of us in the forum to view. I expect these proposals from the think tanks as it would be a different result. I have also assigned something for my self.

          Regards,

          GitSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Hi GitSAtSE,

            I may as well be wrong. I am not insisting that we wait to remove IA until he make peace with Ethiopia and improve our economic situations. That is in the absence of removing IA from power today.

            If anyone can do it tomorrow the better. What I am not in favor is using TPLF military to get rid of IA and PFDJ. It’s not for Eritrea long term benefit.

            That will be worst than the current IA dictatorship in Eritrea.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Berhe_AArkey,

            If you can dig deep in your memory, circa 2006, the Fareed Awate days, on and about the time the TPLF invaded Somalia and replaced chased the Islamic Council/Court (I believe that was the name) that was governing and administering basic civil services to to as much Somalian territories as it managed to bring under its control from their Mogadishu center of gravity. The work of the Islamic Court was born out of dire necessities of the Somali people who were suffering anarchy, an absolute absence of law and order due to the fall of Said Bare followed by the era of numerous war lords each in their own enclaves. The Islamic Court of Somalia aggressively and efficiently found success in consolidating swaths of territories and forged alliances and agreements between numerous strong men and immediately delivered the dire basic necessities of Somaliams including law and order, security for people and property, schools and health services. The Islamic Court as a result enjoyed broad support from the Somali people. Until due to the foreigners staging their proxy wars, in my opinion, and global power interests, TPLF’s Ethiopia invaded Somalia and dismantled the Islamic Court in Mogadishu. Ask yourself what was the worst thing that happened to Somalia as well as what happened to the TPLF after their military involvement in Somalia. Did the Somalians in Mogadishu reestablish a Somalian administration to run their affairs while the TPLF was there and until this day. Also remind yourself that the head of the Islamic Court who escaped capture by the TPLF and fled to Eritrea, in only a few month managed to escape Eritrea through Djibouti, against the will of the controlling DIA who was insisting to keep hostage, and returned to Mogadishu to play a part in the coalition government that was formed while the TPLF was inside Somalia. This is a good case study I would like you to keep at the fore of your thoughts for now.

            At the time, with your honest recollection, you were pro TPLF incursion into Somalia and trusted in their wisdom as I was vehemently against it. The distrust and enmity I possessed against the TPLF at the time increase my distrust for Eritreans with genuine concern for their country as much as mine that I viewed them as much of an enemy of Eritrea as the TPLF and gave no consideration to remotely cooperate with them in order to achieve the mutual outcome both desired for Eritrea. What have Eritreans particularly those in opposition contributed in building a uniting with one another let alone influence and work with Eritreans in support of the Eritrean government, We have only massively added to the distrust of Eritreans with one another debilitating Eritreans ability to make any kind of progress and achieve the desired outcome all Eritreans desire solely because we commit the exact same errors again and again. Errors such as the one you are making right now which is only adding distrust amongst all Eritrean to come to a united decision at critical junctions in time.
            So let me explain the error of your ways that not only hampers and drags the Eritrean cause and fight for justice but also possess the unintended negative consequential effect of prolonging DIAs hold on power and the misery and suffering of the Eritrean people.

            This statement of yours I would like you to thoroughly elaborate for us all Eritreans as I will not dismiss it because I may commit a grave error to see its merits. I will have ever point out what will be very obvious to you which is the error in logic.

            You say:
            “What I am not in favor is using TPLF military to get rid of IA and PFDJ. It’s not for Eritrea long term benefit.”

            Given the tense circumstance and tensions in both Eritrea and Ethiopia you can’t possibly blind to the very high possibility of a TPLF military ejection of DIA (Isaias has earned the title and you should not rob him his due credit) from power militarily. The cause of TPLF’s military clash with DIA is may not necessarily base on whether or not you, my self or any Eritreans having the preference. It could be because DIA takes the preemptive unilateral action to get rid of the TPLF or vice versa. What you will agree is that such a scenario as the intervention of military intervention to get rid of DIA in the near futurHe is a reality that could occur. How likely or unlikely is it is a matter we Eritreans should thoroughly discus and weigh heavily not only of the consequences of a TPLF military engagement but more importantly give great though and effort of how we can influence the realization of the best of possible outcomes for Eritrea and Eritreans. Irrespective of the result of whether or not the TPLF or DIA’s forces triumph, you will agree in the event of a military clash between Eritrea and the TPLF, we Eritreans can not simply bury our heads in the sand and avoid our responsibilities to have our positive effect for Eritrea.
            Indicators for such an imminent event are all over. They need not be explicitly and officially stated. Neither of the TPLF or DIA will declare to us of their very real consideration to engage militarily and rid of one another. And in your opinion what should we Eritreans actively do now to get a head start on assuring our influence is maximum in such a very real possible scenario. Should we continue to sow distrust, confusions and noncooperations amongst Eritreans with such statements you are making?

            Yes, no one desires war or military clashes. But in the business we Eritreans and Ethiopians have been involved in, the possibility of war is very real. The real question is this: Is it beneficial for us Eritreans to build trust and close cooperation with the TPLF right mow if only it is to convince them of none military intervention. Does your statements make it conducive for a stronger and friendlier relationships between Eritreans and Tigrians? How will it be a lot worst is for you now to provide us a vision of Eritrea post a TPLF militarily getting rid of DIA.

            But when you give us that worst vision of Eritrea post TPLF’s military intervention keep in mind the Somalia example above. The fear mongering of TPLF will swallow whole Eritrea is scare horror stories of creating monsters to debilitate actions and freeze the minds for a people to make rational decisions. What will the TPLF do throw all Eritreans into the Red Sea?

            But I await for you to tell us the worst outcome you speak of. Whether there will be a military intervention we know is not under out control. Or is it Berhe_Y AArkey.

            Disclaimer: The above is in no way a support or advocacy for the TPLF to take military action and get rid of DIA. It is an exercise of free though of hypothetical scenarios that can materialize and become reality without any warning. Rational Eritreans covering their face or burying their heads in the sand due to fear of thought is inexplicable.

            GitSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Dear GitSAtSE,

            Thank you fir reminding me, and how wrong I was.

            Around 2004 I wrote an article awate I think titles “weyane, weyane diA beyenay Edley kireKbo”. It was featured in Tigray radio (I forgot which one) and how they appreciate honest Eritrean with integrity speaking the truth.

            I truly believed, they were going to bring democracy to Ethiopia. After the 2005 election, I learned it was all a farce.

            All that was a farce after they found out what happened in the election.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Berhe_Y,

            It is a work in progress and we are on the verge on witnessing the birth of a miracle. You are not only avoiding the pertinent issues I raised but you continue to make he same error.

            On the one hand you thank me for reminding you and two lines down you say “it was all a farce.”

            How does that add value building trust or give hope to the Ethiopians who are mired in quagmire as we speak?

            I don’t blame you or all the hopeless Eritreans here and everywhere who are suffering from the same disease and continue to contribute negatively, unintentionally perhaps, with what they say and do. It is a the Eritrean culture born of horrible circumstances. It is for these lack of critical Eritreans thinkers perhaps some us are willing fully accept even the worst outcomes that result from a TPLF military incursion into Eritrea to rid of DIA. Expect theses sentiments and stances by Eritreans to be mainstream in the future.

            If all you got out of it is a nostalgic trip down memory lane and you failed to capture my message and address it, then I will have to try again better so that other the effort of my messaging is not lost on other Eritreans.

            Regards,

            GitSAtSE

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam GitSAtSE,

            In Somalia, the so called Islamic Courts, that was forming and gaining strength was accurately identified by Meles and Co. as a threat to Ethiopia’s future. They had a school teacher as a figure head but hard line Jihadists and terrorists were the nuts and bolts of that organization.
            The U.S told Meles, he was on his own if he went in. Mind you today’s remaining Al Shabab was at the center of it. This is after all the casualty they suffered from that incursion. There were other rebels too like Oromo something and Ogaden something, that were hit.
            That action Meles took moved us to a better climate for decades in our southern boarder. It is still active low grade problem but…..
            When U.S, Europe, Amnesty international etc were critical of Meles after a year or two, he said …..our international partners are not only happy to ride the Ethiopian horse in Somalia, but they are beginning to flog it. Shortly after that he withdrew and African Union moved in. It is still there.

            I am reading everywhere this TPLF and PIA who are at odds and might start something bothers me a great deal. I never thought that was possible but the increasing noise, unnerves me.
            I hope no such eventuality comes to pass. It will be a 3 way civil war with no end.
            I know some Eritreans are advocating for such an event to get rid of their leader at our expense. We should never, never get involved in Eritrean politics in this fashion.
            I cannot even comprehend the thought of Ethiopia and Eritrea waging a war with Tigray. That will be the point of no return for Ethiopia’s fabric of united front of survival.
            I am of the opinion that PMAA will not go there. These high profile opposition leaders of Eritrea who are visiting Mekele are of course playing out their games. They should be supported but not to go to war for an illusive, uncertain, possible catastrophic outcome.

            Mr. K.H

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Berhe Y,

            “What I am not in favor is using TPLF military to get rid of IA and PFDJ. It’s not for Eritrea long term benefit.”

            I agree with you. Actually, not only for Eritrea but it is also not in the best interest of Tigray/Ethiopia if armed TPLF steps into Eritrean territory for any reason. Except to make a bad perception worst there is no long term benefit for anyone involved.

            I never thought TPLF has any intention to do so to begin with but also the recent Getachew Redda’s interview implied that TPLF’s roll in the TPLF-Opposition cooperation will be passive.

            However, we are getting ahead of our selves. I don’t even think war is eminent. I heard General Mesfun Hagos in one of his interviews saying that the opposition’s presence in Tigray (close to Eritrea) is meant to encourage those inside Eritrea that they have support in the outside should they decide to take action against PFDJ.

            Taking the two interviews (Mesfun/Getachew) together, it is all psychological warfare at this point. Should the unfortunate happen and they go to war, lets all get ready for the following main scenarios or propaganda:

            1. PFDJ will smear any attack by the opposition as TPLF waged.

            2. TPLF will join the opposition with its “volunteer Tegaru” while claiming neutrality.

            3. PFDJ will attack inside Tigray to force reaction from TPLF and solicit public sympathy.

            4. TPLF will march to Asmara “in self defense.”

          • mad mullah

            Hello Fanti,
            I don’t think there is any chance of war. These are old dinosaurs trying to be relevant. The Eritrean opposition doesn’t like Dr. Abiy not because he is giving IA the limelight. They ignore the fact that he explicitly stated that he support the ruling of Border commission.
            What scares the opposition is Dr. Abiy youth and education. You see the Eritrean opposition is full of folks with no experience in civil society and no education background… Dr. Abiy is constant reminder to the opposition that their time is up and they don’t have much for Eritrea’s future.
            All the former member of EPRDF which didn’t end up getting advance degree or earning civil qualification didn’t last a long time. If the Eritrean opposition member were member of EPRDF they wouldn’t have hold any legitimate positions.
            As much as I don’t like IA and what he has done to Eritrea- the Eritrean opposition are just dinosaurs who haven’t realized their time is up and they are not capable of passing the torch.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi mud,
            Thank you for earlier note but please refrain you attacks on the Eritrean opposition. I doubt you have ever met one person and spend hours talking to them. Why don’t you do that and perhaps you can learn something.

            A lot of the Eritrean opposition where members of Jebha. I think Jamie Foxx said, “the success of a parent is by what kind of children they end up raising”. I think you are a young person, you need to go and meet the dynamic Eritreans who the “opposition” raise.

            I gave few lust the other day, why don’t you get to learn more.

            They are not interested in leasing Eritrea and become president this or minister of that. They wanted to make sure, Eritrea is intact and hand over to the next generation.

            Berhe

          • mad mullah

            Hello Berhe,
            I know some of Eritrean opposition the Jebha. They actually had my father in political prison in Barka. They are mainly ex-gedhli and not much has changed about them since Eritrea has become independent. They had a role to play in Eritrean history in its independence. I give them credit for that.
            However, just like the PDJF they weren’t able to transition to civil leader or statesmen.
            I don’t see anything coming from from folks like Mesfin Hagos. They are part of the problem not the solution.
            If you are interested in handover.. put and invest in the future generation and step aside for the future generation.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mulla,

            What I am trying to say is, we should not focus too much about opposition too much. Because the opposition is not a single entity, it’s not in government holding power and doing harm. As far as I am concerned, anyone who does not support the PFDJ has s an opposition, and that’s 99% of the population.

            In other words, pick your battle wisely.

            Berhe

          • mad mullah

            Hello Berhe,
            I am not focusing on opposition. People brought Mesfin Hagos in this forum. I am also familiar the historical Eritrean opposition folks with organization and party. They have existed for 20-30 years in present form and I just don’t see any constructive coming from them.
            There is nothing wrong with me pointing that out… it is good lesson for future Eritrean movement and organization.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi mad mullah,
            [If you are interested in handover.. put and invest in the future generation and step aside for the future generation.]
            No one will stop you from leading or be a member of opposition, as long as it is in diaspora. Why do you guys keep saying like this? You don’t need a permission from anyone.

          • mad mullah

            Hello
            It is obvious we don’t need permission. It is also crucial to learn from past mistakes.

          • Selamat Fanti,

            “1. PFDJ will smear any attack by the opposition as TPLF waged.

            2. TPLF will join the opposition with its “volunteer Tegaru” while claiming neutrality.

            3. PFDJ will attack inside Tigray to force reaction from TPLF and solicit public sympathy.

            4. TPLF will march to Asmara “in self defense.”

            It looks like I will have to change my retirement location from Mekkele University to The University of Cancun.

            As for getting ready, what do you think an innocent article such as this was for?
            The Trojan horse gift of Ethnic Federalism revisited. The 2020 vision of PM Meles Zenawi forty years ago. Here is the problem: Though thus far successful to have put into question the strength of Ethiopia’s unity, it also threatens PM Meles Zenawi’s economic development of Ethiopia symbol which is the GERD.
            The return of the Federal Police of Ethiopia…. how ironic that on Abbay Day in Ethiopia with rain falling in Addis Abeba and a military parade in Mekkele. There must be a parallel universe where another me and another you will re experience the past forty years all over again. However, I think it is a grave miscalculation and underestimation by the TPLF war strategists. The experiment TPLF2/EPRDF2 is not being conducted under the same environment in a vacuum. Which reminds me of Samuel’s Albert Einstein’s quote of : Doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Where the think tanks in Tigrai may think they have it right when applied to TPLF doing the same thing AND THE TPLF IS EXPECTING THE SAME RESULT!
            Maybe this is all a nightmare or I am a victim of the fake news phenomena. I certainly am hoping for both to be true.
            What a cruel joke on the 2020 Nobel Prize for Peace winner. Now he may have to conduct to major wars within months. COVID19 and EPRRDF2.

            Another war profiteer just like the top brass of the TPLF, of course DIA and the PFDJ are going to attack. See you in Kombishtato Kombishtato Libbeyy wesidato, NOT!

            GitSAtSE

          • Samuel

            Selam GitSAtSE,

            He is recommending non interference or non disturbance of the status quo in Eritrea. He is recommending for continuing the peace rapprochement between PM Abiy and DIA and believes things will get better economically for the Eritrea youth and then they will find an opening for them to get rid of DIA.”

            I hear you, I will leave that for all Eritreans to choose what is best option for them. Most Tigrians including the governing party has now declared Abiy as the number one enemy, we have defined Abiy the “reincarnated Derg”, thus we don’t see Abiy a solution for Tigray, Ethiopia and the horn in general. Of course the old dictator IA will be part of the reincarnated forces. If some Eritreans think Abiy can bring some change, that’s all good, it is their interest. Having said that, what I don’t like is trying hard (not you) to make Abiy as messiah, the laureate of peace and development, which is media hype that has political motive. “ተጽግበካያ ቅጫስ ኣብ ሞቅላኣ እንተላ ትፍለጥ” — “የሚያጠግብህ ቂጣ ከምጣዱ ይታወቃል ይባል”

            Therefore Eritreans must engage and seek the more stronger and stable Tigray and request only what help they need in exchange for a more peaceful stable Eritrea that will inevitably return big dividends through trade of material goods as well as the mutual growth of a more civilized culture as well as intellectual property.”

            I completely agree with this statement, stable and developed Eritrea is an asset for Tigray; stable and developed Tigray is an asset for Eritrea. Every generation has their own weakness, strength, legacy and responsibility. So the new Tigray generation mindset is different from the old guard generation mindset. We know the weaknesses and strengths of the old guards, we appreciate what they did but we have different vision and mission this time. We believe the policy of EPRDF has put Tigray on disadvantage (economy and stability).

            Yes, MZ has worked hard to change Ethiopia which is his primary job, however he used the most capable Tegaru to build the center, but Tigray became insignificant periphery. Thus, we have learned our lessons to revise our vision and priority. That is now slowly but surely changing.

            In 2017, a year before the change, TPLF had a closed-door meeting for 37 days (day and night meeting), they discussed every issues and possible scenarios of the change and the region in general. Part of their assessment was their policy on Eritrea and other matters that impacts Tigray, thus they came-up with new direction that changes the political dynamics of Tigray in the region. You can see the 2018 change part of that self-assessment and package.
            TPLF would have been history by now had they not make proper change and set their priority right and mindset right.

            Dr. Debretsion voice isn’t the voice of TPLF only, it is the voice of Tigray elites and its people. Generally, I don’t see TPLF doing the same mistake again.

            If you have 16 minutes to spare please watch the following video. It will give you a highlight what has been discussed and being discussed.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQPYksqd6ZQ

            Thanks,

          • Hashela

            Selam Samuel

            While I admire your tireless effort to sell us TPLF as a club of semi-saints, it isn’t clear to me the basis of your rosy Eritrea-Tigrai relationship when Tigrayan elites (young and old TPLF) harbor a territorial ambition that cuts deep into sovereign Eritrean territory.

            Have you compared the map of Tigrai that is currently shown in TPLF publications (including TV and web sites) and the official map of the Federal Government of Ethiopia with the latter showing the correct delineation. Whom are you trying to deceive? Do you believe that post-Isaias Eritrea has no ambition to reclaim and protect its sovereign territory?

          • Selamat Samuel,

            “Most Tigrians including the governing party has now declared Abiy as the number one enemy, we have defined Abiy the “reincarnated Derg”, thus we don’t see Abiy a solution for Tigray, Ethiopia and the horn in general. Of course the old dictator IA will be part of the reincarnated forces. If some Eritreans think Abiy can bring some change, that’s all good, it is their interest.”

            First thank you for sharing the link. Not only did I have 16 minutes to spare, I watched and listened very attentively for nearly three hours and counting parts 1,2,3 of the Tigrai educated class meetings with TPLF party leaders in 2018. The numerous concerns ranging the outpouring from macro to micro economics of development ideas for the Tigrai region, the difficulties of lower to mid level civil service administrators, the unfairness of opportunity appointments on the basis of party loyalty as opposed to meritocracy…etc as well as infrastructure issues, water resources, regionalism within Tigrai. A commendable gathering of the Tigrai people by the TPLF leadership at a time when the top TPLF heads withdrew from 4Killo to Mekkele where they were just commencing to hands on nearly micro managing and administering the affairs of Tigrai region. Though touched on by a few from the audience providing the constructive advices to the leadership, the meeting of these Tigrai intellectuals main preoccupation was the possible loss of opportunity in all of the Ethiopian territories and the future. role of the People of Tigrai in the Federalism structure of a united Ethiopia.

            It was a meeting by the TPLF leadership to assess where the people of Tigrai put their faith and how they felt about the TPLF leadership to record all honest statements from the people, study meticulously all statements and strategize a road map of how and where to proceed from that point on. The TPLF leadership’s main concern in that 2018 was, it seemed to me, to reverse the significant set back they have just incurred of all the opportunities that was available to the people of Tigrai while the TPLF had firm grip on Ethiopia when it was the senior partner of the EPRDF coalition.

            I think I will write extensively on a lot of things I was illuminated by viewing the people of Tigrai openly describing the challenges, opportunities and hope they possessed at the point in time two years ago. I believe Eritreans in Eritrea will sound of the exact same concerns I just heard in the videos if the Eritrean people were provided the same opportunity to speak to their leaders same as the Tigreans. I can’t imagine the Eritreans and the Tigreans to be facing different challenges than one another. Both Tigreans and Eritreans have the same exact challenges which are poverty and the lack of fail proof and sustainable economic development plans.

            The meeting was in 2018 when the TPLF leadership was reorienting to focus and mobilize the Tigreans for a long carefully designed and orchestrated stealthy war to reverse their recent misfortune. It is now two years later and at a point in time where the TPLF has made a breakthrough, reestablished its relevance and is positioned to influence and have effect on the power dynamics of the direction the Federal Republic of Ethiopia will take from this point on. It was clear in the past few day the TPLF possess strong leverage to reverse it position back near the top of an Ethiopian coalition government.

            Your statement above is very concerning. I certainly hope that it is not the official and final Tigrai regional governments position. If it is I believe it is a grave miscalculation and underestimation of many things. I implore you to read a response addressed to you and Horizon below with regards to my personal recommendation on how Ethiopians should handle the current quagmire they find themselves in. I implore you to read it again and if you can’t find it please ask me and I will copy and paste it for you. My reply was to under Horizon’s post but it was addressing both you and him. IT IS IMPORTANT so please read it.

            I will continue to search videos and literature and hope I will find contemporary material so that I get a much better understanding to see if I can hopefully have some influence before things escalate and get out of hand very quickly. My primary concern is to avert any possible negative catastrophic events for Tigray and all of Ethiopia in general as a result of the current tensions and stand off between TPLF and PM Abiy’s PP. Your statement I quoted above is very concerning. Disaster in Ethiopia will certainly affect Eritrea but the priority concern is to avoid widening to roe between TPLF and PP.

            Please find my post below as I have stated above and open the discussions in the limited time we have. In the meantime I will see if I can educate myself fast enough and compose something….

            Regards,

            GitSAtSE

      • Sultan

        Berhe Tsaida:
        Now-a-days you are moving FAST and you are close to catching up with HOPE,Vet Tegad Sem T,Teg Eng and Artist Mahmuday, Prof Dr Gheteb and Gen Nitric and Field Marshal Blink( are U unsafe Blink?)!
        Kudos to you bud.
        There was a reason as to why I nominated you the Awatista of the Year, well deservedly!

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Sultan,

          I don’t know putting me in the same category as these guys above is something I should be proud.

          Here is my position towards TPLF (where I think most of the guys you listed agree)

          1) TPLF should abide thy r EEBC boarder ruling and allow he demarcation to happen.
          2) TPLF should stop interfering in internal Eritrean problems, specially getting involved militarily.
          3) Its support should be based on its obligation (Ethiopia) to provide aid and shelter to refugees. If it allows the opposition to operate in its boarders that is welcome as well.
          4) It should look into and denounce all the elements, media either sponsored, supported or directed who are creating division among Eritreans.

          Here is the issues I don’t agree with them.

          1) I don’t care if TPLF lives or dies. It’s the issue of the Tigray people and Ethiopians.
          2) Eritrea should care about Eritreans first and for most.
          3) it should leave the People of Tigray if they want to keep TPLF or not. Non of our business.
          4) Eritrea should make the living conditions of Eritreans humane and end the indefinite national service.
          5) Eritrea should not hold the Eritrean people hostage in the name of fighting TPLF or protecting Abiy or building integration of African countries. Charity starts at hone, take care of your people first.
          6) Eritrea should move on with other path of democratic institutions, human rights, economic participatory development, create jobs for the use, be accountable to the people and release all political prisoners and start the healing process.
          7) IA should resign and create a plan for smooth transition of power and move towards peaceful future.
          8) Give people a break and end the sage mentality.

          * Note: our leaders are aging and they need to create a succession plan so the country is saved and protected. The domestic issue is more important that focusing on TPLF 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for 20 years. What have they achieved?

          Berhe

          • Sultan

            Selam Berhe:
            Am not sure about Gheteb and Semere Tesfay since they sound indifferent on the PFDJ and its policies but I think HOPE, Nittric, Blink and Mahmuday have almost the same stands like yours except the tone and the rhetoric by the former three.

            Mahmuday extensively expressed your wish list via articles and video clips but he sounds exhausted now-a-days like most Justice Seekers do since the PFDJ is a formidable and unbeatable organization due to its 50 yrs old experience in organizational security.

            U literally / your crystal stand/are representing the Majority of Eritreans including the so called PFDJ Apologists !

            I agree with and I ENDORSE 100 % ,what you said .

            I think it would be great if you put up together this comment of yours and an expounded one you responded to Dr Paulo’s to an Article with some editions and cosmetics by adding some recommendation for Eritreans going forward of at all you have some extra time to do so.
            You used to be a Good Writer during the old good days of Asmarino . Com before it was hijacked by WeyAne Cadres.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Cousin,

            I stand corrected about you, so I wasn’t thinking you are with them, and same goes for Mahmoud.

            I can tolerate Nitricc because deep inside he knows IA doing is wrong but he can’t seem to think there will be alternative.

            The others, I don’t think so. They have sold their soul, I have never seen them criticize IA for anything.

            That blink guy is Paulo version. Abilu ablilu he blames PFDJ and IA in order to absolve TPLF :).

            Blink too Abilu Abilu he blames the opposition in order to absolve IA and PFDJ. What ever happens to him, I think he got busy, I suspect he e we irked at the Eritrean ministry of information:).

            Berhe

      • mad mullah

        Hello Berhe,
        You make what I can only consider beautiful insight. You have a good understanding of situation of Eritrea and Eritrean.
        The most dangerous thing to do for the future of Eritrea without good leadership is to get the TPLF involved.

        I don’t see folks like Mesfin Hagos relevant. What can he do for Eritrea what does he know about civil society… what education level does he have? In his 20+ years of exile what has he done?
        TPLF objective is a weak and fractured Eritrea and they have no problem trying to achieve it. They play realpolitik of dirtiest kinda.

        I live in America and it amaze me when I meet Tigrian… they are so eager to tell me Eritrean are flooding our country… can you imagine that?

        My warning when it comes to Tigrian don’t forget the Haile Sellassie Principle.

        This is a Principle that helps understand the mindset of Tigrian leadership.

        You know the most strangest thing is how for nearly one century we Eritrean are always dealing with these Ethiopians or those Ethiopian.

        I hear this nonsense about we are one people… just nonsense…
        If you ask me who the brothers of Eritrean and who are real family.
        I have simple answer. The Sudanese. That is country that welcomed our people as refugee since 1968. That is country that has about one million Eritrean about 20% of the population.
        Do you hear about bombing from Sudan, border problem, deporting people, etc…
        Good grief Eritrean should be grateful to have a neighbor like Sudan.
        We wouldn’t have shelter without them we wouldn’t have country without them.
        Ethiopia…in its modern history it has been just a curse from south. And one is worst to the Eritrean identity and future than the Tigrian leadership…

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ዶተረ
      ኢስያስ:- ዋላ ሓንቲ ኣይከሰርናን። ካን ከምዛ ዝብለካ ተጠሊዑ ነጊሩና።
      ኮለኔል ኣብዪ:- ዝሓለፈ ሳላሳ ዓመታት ቃልሲ ኤረትራ ንብላሽ ዩ ኔሩ። ኣይምድለየን ድማ ኢሉ።

      ትሓደ: ዝኹሉ ምእንቲ ናጽነትን ዕቃበ ናጽነትን ዝተኸፍለ መስዋእትን ስንክልናን ኣይከሰረናን ክብል ከሎ:
      ኮለኔል ድማ ናጽነትና ብላሽ’ዩ ይብል ኣሎ።

      ነዞም ክልተ: ጸላእቲ ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ዘይበልናዮም ደኣ ንመን?

      • Paulos

        ኢንጂኔረ,

        And here you see people trying to deny the obvious when they insist that it is an ulcer when it is in fact a cancer.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Doterre,
          I am not sure if the brain works this way but I will explain what our problem is:
          Our [Eritreans] sensors/detectors [our ears & eyes] seem not capturing the right data. Whatever they are sending to our brain, the calculation comes out wrong. GIGO.
          We seem to have hard time to say what we see and hear. That’s the reason we are in disarray.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Paulo.

      I wish I had watched the link rather. It would have saved me valuable time.

      So I don’t get your point. if he said, the 30 year was, a wasted opportunity. Do you see anything wrong from an Ethiopian point of view? If the former Ethiopian leaders had decided a peaceful approach (Like General Andom tried and ELF/EPLF leaders welcomed) and the war had been avoided.

      What would be wrong?

      But you forgot the most important part if that speech. He says “I don’t believe that we have to repeat that mistake again”.

      Paulo, I know I am slow but please. You are taking literally “nHamasien bmaHla”.

      Are we suppose to just on anyone because he is preaching peace, and mention Eritrea in the passing?

      Berhe

  • Yassin Hamed

    However, I’ll not be able to reply to all the comments, but I’ll -as soon as possible- try my best to reply to some of them due to the lack of time

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Yassin,

      A writer must defend his article by engaging with the forumers. You don’t have to answer to all comments, but try to reply to legitimate arguments to enrich the debate.

      Regard

      • Yassin Hamed

        I‘ll do as long as possible, as we all know there’s only a time problem, otherwise I sincerely want to contribute to the discussion and learn as too, because there are an impressive opinions
        I know most of the readers will find to their questions through the comments of colleagues, but me too I’ll do my party

    • Teodros Alem

      selam yassin h
      before u start replying think of a things like, what it means nation building, generational dynamics, population size, population location, peoples culture on education and so on. think of other factors, why is the countries of the world r not equal.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Yassin Hamed

      “However, I’ll not be able to reply to all the comments, but I’ll -as soon as possible- try my best to reply to some of them due to the lack of time.”

      1. – First and foremost thank you for caring about core Eritrean issues, thank you for being blunt, and thank you for speaking up what is in your mind. Please keep engaging, please make Awate your home, and please make the Awate family your family. I’m not going to ask you, to go out of your way to answer my questions today. No; I’m asking you to be be a regular commonter and a writer on this website.

      Now this is how I see things

      2. – Every country is divided into some kind of regional administrations – all for the purpose of effective and efficient governing. And for that purpose, today’s Eritrea is divided into six regions; but in reality, you can look at it as three Regions: Eastern Region, Western Region, and Central (Mountain) Region.

      3. – In any country, there are “rich and poor” regions, there are “takers and givers” regions. But, but, but none of the regions are strong as a single region. They are strong as unified Nation, They are strong when they master the art of collective work, they are strong when they combine their resources in a supplementary and complementary ways, when they work as organs and systems of one healthy strong body – not when they stand against each other.

      4. – Back to Eritrea: You’re right Eastern and Western Regions of Eritrea are the richest regions in the nation. For the foreseeable future – until Eritrea becomes an industrialized country -,these regions are the ones that would pull-out our country and people from poverty, destitution, and backwardness. But make no mistake, each region has a lot to offer to the common good of the Nation, to make Eritrea, the Eritrea we aspire it to be. Let me explain

      5. – The Central (Mountain) Region is a region with highly dense population; probably 60% of the Eritrean population calls home this region. This region has played and will play crucial role in liberating and defending the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our nation. This region is rich in human resources that can build our nation. This region three land ports – SenAfe, Tserona, Kisad-Eqa – that could trade with Ethiopia to grow our economy. It has the port cities of Karora and Naqfa to grow the Eritrean economy through trade and commerce with the Sudan. This region is rich in mineral resources and modest agricultural lands. This region could be the center of our industrialized future Eritrea.

      6. – The Eastern Region’s potential for economic success is without a limit. port service industries, mining industries, fishing industries, commerce and trading with our neighboring countries, tourism industries, hotel restaurant and recreational industries, potential for gas and petroleum industries…….. you name it. All we need is peace and stability to achieve what we aspire for.

      7. – The Western Region is simply the breadbasket of Eritrea. It is where our future modern farming is going to take place – a future farming that uses modern science and technologies in farming – cultivation of domestic animals, plants, crop etc…. It has the port cities of Um-Hager, Goluj, Teseney, and Adibara/Girmaika to trade with Ethiopia and Sudan.

      8. – But again, we’ve to think big; we’ve to look beyond our minor differences; we’ve to look beyond today, we’ve to think what we could be if work together and stay true to each other – no matter what.

      9. – Please, please, please listen this song for me. That’s all I want you to do for me – not even care to answer my questions.
      S Club 7: Reach for the Stars — lyrics

      Thanks again.

      Semere Tesfai

  • Yassin Hamed

    Dear readers
    First, on the occasion of Eid al-Adha. I would like to say: Happy Eid to everyone, in the hope that our country will soon enjoy security, stability and prosperity, and we all return from the diaspora to live between our families and our loved ones.
    Thank you for giving a portion of your valuable time to read the article. I was so happy to read your valuable comments, which indicate your deep understanding, which deserves my respect regardless of whether I agree with some opinions or not. on the other hand, when a person presents his idea, he does not expect all people to agree with him, but his goal is to clarify the idea. I would be so glad if i could join the discussion for the purpose of enriching the idea, if possible.
    Note that knowing the cause of problem is the way to find a solution and this what we together have to work for it

  • Yassin Hamed

    Dear readers
    First, on the occasion of Eid al-Adha. I would like to say: Happy Eid to everyone, in the hope that our country will soon enjoy security, stability and prosperity, and we all return from the diaspora to live between our families and our loved ones.
    Thank you for giving a portion of your valuable time to read the article. I was so happy to read your valuable comments, which indicate your deep understanding, which deserves my respect regardless of whether I agree with some opinions or not. on the other hand, when a person presents his idea, he does not expect all people to agree with him, but his goal is to clarify the idea. I would be glad if i could join the discussion and enrich purpose of enriching the idea, if possible.
    Note that knowing the cause of problem is the way to find a solution and this what we together have to work for it.

  • mad mullah

    Hello Yassin,
    I also found the article to be empty of anything of substance. This article has captivating titles and interesting graphics but empty in content.
    The only description I can come up with is click-bait. What I don’t understand is how does a tiny country like Eritrea have so much challenges?
    There are countries like Tanzania with 200+ ethnic groups and you don’t hear about internal colonialism. You hear about Singapore with four ethnic group categories and you don’t hear about Internal colonialism.
    The only country you mention in the article as an example of Internal Colonialism is Sri Lanka- which was going thru its own civil strife or civil war for many years. How much of Internal colonialism was product its bureaucracy or do to the conflict- I don’t know. Internal colonialism from what I see seems to be a buzz phrase without much foundation.
    It seems the article had a label called “Internal Colonialism” and it tried to stick on Eritrea and from what I can see failed miserably.

    • Dongolo

      Selam mad mullah. Good points But maybe best to not mention Tanzania given case of Zanzibar.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam MM,

      The reason you don’t hear “internal colonialism” in the country you mentioned is, b/c they have addressed the grievances that could have existed in their governance. Second, learn how to say I disagree instead of saying empty. Third, you don’t even try to make a plausible argument except baseless critic. Show us the substance of your argument in this particular comment of yours.

    • Yassin Hamed

      Salam mad mullah
      Sorry for the late reply,
      If you look closely at the world around you and follow what is going on, you would know about the existence of internal colonialism and there’s many of writers were dealt with it. As for I only mentioned Sri Lanka, because I was only giving an example, not listing all the countries that suffer from internal colonialism. The article wasn’t about internal colonialism in the countries of the whole world, but rather Eritrea.
      As for more information on the subject, you should make a little effort in researching on it and the information are widely available. Even without going far, the internal colonialism was apparent in our neighbour countries such as Ethiopia where the eye can’t deny it. For the decades, the Amhara ethnic were controlled all the resources of the state and exploited the rest of the ethnic groups, which Mede them to revolt to take back their freedom, rights and dignity. So instead of denying the facts or underestimating any contribution of others in clarifying matters, a little of time and effort should should made.
      Wishing you and all readers the best

      • Teodros Alem

        selam yassin h
        i have a question that u don’t need to answer it,
        In sudan there r lots of tribal conflicts, in eastern sudan the last 4 days there was tribal fights going on, u think it’s because of internal colonialism? In south sudan since 2011 there r civil war between tribes, what do u think?what do u think the main cause of tribal conflicts?
        u said the ethiopia’s tribes “revolted to take back their freedom, rights and dignity”,
        If so why is the ethiopian tribes crying 24/7 now?, u think the saying ” once a slave is always slave ” is right? Or u think the ethiopia tribes didn’t liberated themselves fully?
        I think most the tribal conflicts that u see in Africa and middle east is something to do with evolution. for me there is no such thing called internal colonialism, there is only colonialism, emperor menelik expansion to the south was a colonialism but after 150 years, after a lot of water passed under the bridge, the question is about democracy and all countries of the world created through colonialism, be it usa, England, Germany , Russia, Sweden and all, the different is the time.

      • mad mullah

        Hello Yassin,
        Two things first. One I give you credit for presenting your thesis of Eritrea as an example of Internal colonialism. Two for responding to criticism of that thesis.
        I saw the title of your article and image and I thought I was going to 5 star restaurant of intellectual delight. However, I sat down and opened the mesob to find a dish without no meat or vegetables just watered down enjera sauce.
        Your whole thesis is “theory that seeks to explain how inequality and domination are maintained in a society when there is not necessarily a foreign power ruling.”

        Who are you saying is colonizer in this case. At the core of Internal colonialism is the notion of a nation within a nation. In the Sri Lanka case, it is “Tamil nation” within the Sri Lanka. How does this apply to Western Sahara.. where you have Saharwi nation between the Moroccan nation. In this case, you have Morocco settling moroccan into Western Sahara.

        Can we also apply this to China… where you have “Tibet Nation” within the Chinese nation… what about the Xinjiang nation within the Chinese nation. In this case, you have Chinese government settling Han Chinese within Tibet or Xinjiang proper…
        Is Western Sahara and Tibet and Xinjiang examples of Internal colonialism?
        What is Eritrean case? What is the nation within the nation? Maybe your thesis would have some meat if you discuss this…

        On the topic of language in this case tigrinya. You state an example of internal colonialism is language usage. Your quote “imposing a specific language (Tigrinya) on a multilingual society” if you look at North African countries a good segment speak Berber as a native language but use Arabic as lingua franca.
        Let’s take the example of Singapore. According to constitution of sigapore the national language is Malay. I have some Singaporean an non of them speak any Malay. However, the Linga Franca of Singapore is English. Is this a form of Internal colonialism?
        Maybe Tigrinya is becoming a Lingua Franca in Eritrea…for simple fact that is the native language of the group that makes up the largest group? In Tanzania, with 200+ ethnic group the national language is Swahili. However, English is linga franca also.

        Unfair distribution of power in Eritrea… I don’t think Eritrean government is close to a civil society. It is a guerrilla army. So, I don’t know about unfair distribution of power.

        I don’t know about unequal access to education.

        I don’t know about unequal access to jobs….

        I think what you have done is not prove your case of internal colonialism but actually used it an umbrella to list your grievances real or unreal in the current Eritrean predicament.

        I think in Eritrea we have to rule of law, constitution or anything resembling a representative government. We have one man rule of Issiasism with his denqorocratic strangling of the nation. I don’t see any internal colonialism. Just Issiasism and its tragic legacy.

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  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Yassin Hamid

    I know you don’t seem to have time to engage with the Awate commentators to defend your article (make your case). But I’m sure when get time you will read them. So, as one of your readers, please allow me to ask these the following questions. I believe discussing on the issues you raised in great detail would bring us all a lot closer to where we want to be. Thanks in advance. Now back to my questions:

    1. – “Internal colonialism: the strongest part of a country might exploit other, less powerful regions or peoples……. The poverty and underdevelopment in some regions within the state, by creating a better work environment, providing (as much as possible) the required resources and developing the infrastructure in some regions, but not others.”

    If you don’t mind, would you please explain to your readers in a very specific terms, which region(s) are exploiting and which regions are being exploited – just to be clear. Can you name the rich and the poor regions in today’s Eritrea?

    2.- “It’s no secret that the regime/ruling group in Eritrea restricting the freedom of other (non-Tigrigna) sects through, undermining their traditions, trade, languages, religion, educational and political systems and constrained their development.”

    A. – Do you believe ethnic Tigrignas as a whole are happy with the current PFDJ regime?

    B. – Do you believe ethnic Tigrignas have no complaints against the PFDJ regime when it comes to – “their religion, the current PFDJ education system, the erosion of their customs and traditions, the curtailing of their political freedom and their economic developments” – as you put it?

    3. – Although the Eritrean society is a multi-cultural, multi-lingual, multi-ethnic and multi-religious society, but only one of these components (ethnic Tigrignas) controls almost all state resources, and crumbs are thrown to the rest of society.

    What state resources are controlled by one ethnic group (ethnic Tigrigna)? Do you believe ethnic Tigrignas are (a) a lot more richer (b) enjoy a lot more educational opportunity (c) enjoying a lot more peace and tranquility than the other ethnics? Can you backup your claim with some kind of facts – even if anecdotal (informal)

    4. – Establishing a specific culture in a multicultural society such as imposing a specific language (Tigrinya) on a multilingual society, or granting religious privileges to a group in a multi-religious society, such empowering Christians on Muslim lands.”

    A. – Tigrigna is a national working language; you know that. Right? So, does anyone has to apologize for its wider use in the Eritrean government. Should we reverse it?

    B. – Could you please name the religion that is enjoying religious freedom in Eritrea today?

    C. – In today’s Eritrea, are there settled Christians in “Muslim Lands”? What about settled Muslims in the Christian Land? Or there is no Christian Land?

    4. – Unequal job opportunities: the other ethnic groups systematically suffer higher unemployment rates than their counterparts from the ruling group, for example, the number of employees of the ruling group in the state ministries reached 95%, which indicates that the benefits are distributed unequally. This impact on the labour market is a result of unfair educational opportunities that we mentioned above”

    Could you please, please give me (a) an example of a country that doesn’t have internal colonization? (b) the unemployment rate of each ethnic group – ethnic Tigrigna vs the other ethnics (c) examples of unfair educational opportunities

    Unfair distribution of power, which leads to disruption of social development. Inequality of educational opportunities by granting more than 95% of scholarship grants to study abroad to the ruling group members, while other ethnicities are excluded even from entering the university despite having awarded entering requirements, on the pretext that the system needs them in teaching of mother languages, so they get directed to the Teacher Training Institute without Their desire.

    So, (a) there are no Muslim university students in Eritrea? (b) are there Muslims in the PFDJ “ruling group” that you’re referring to? (c) if there are Muslims in the PFDJ ruling group, are these Muslims denied higher educational opportunities as well?

    5. – So, Mr. Yassin, let’s say everything you said is right. How do we solve the problem at hand? I suppose we’ve to replace the PFDJ regime with a better, all inclusive government. Right? Now in this fight against the PFDJ regime, do you need ‘the all happy’ ‘the all privileged’ “the internal colonizers of Eritrean Muslims” to join you in the fight, or you’ve got it all under control?

    Semere Tesfai

    • Selamat Semere Tesfay,

      1) “If you don’t mind, would you please explain to your readers in a very specific terms, which Eritrean region(s) are exploiting and which Eritrean regions are being exploited – just to be clear. Can you name the rich and the poor regions in today’s Eritrea?”

      The mining sector has carried Eritrea or the Eritrean regime through dire circumstances during Eritrea’s isolation. Gold, silver, and other minerals are source of a much needed hard currency to budget for running of a country and unfortunately the military is the largest Eritrean expenditure. I believe potash the next big export will be mined in the Denkel.

      The Eritrean Afar who inhabit Denkel way of life and economy is animal husbandry, fishing and trade. The command economy of the Eritrean regime and it’s effort for development is more conducive to the Eritrean central and southern regions. And the Eritrean regime starts mining in Denkel or anywhere in Eritrea unhindered because land in Eritrea belongs to the government. The central government starts to mine potash in Denkel, lease or rent a military base to the Arab countries and it may very well invite the Ethiopian navy back to the Ethiopians. It does this without given due considerations to the inhabitants of Denkel who are the Eritrean Afar. It affects their livelihood and pushes them out of their lands to migrate to Ethiopia, Yemen and the Sudan.
      The Eritrean government is concentrated in the central region of Eritrea. Though the government could claim the income generated from the mining of potash and real estate rentals helps it run the country, from the Denkel Eritrea Afar’s perspective, to answer your question, the Denkel region losses and is exploited while the Centra region of Eritrea benefits. The command economy is forcing the traditional way of life for the Afars, Hidareb, Kunama and possibly the Rashida and others.

      And though the Eritrean regime does not discriminate on the basis of your nationality the dominance of the majority, due to their number and more susceptibility to accept the command economy, in government and administrative positions left vey little room for the the minority nationalities to resist sacrificing their territories and traditional economies to accommodate the Eritrean governments economic development strategy.

      The Afars are denied to fish at this moment. Why?

      GitSAtSE

      • Consolation

        Gisatse,

        Only yesterday, you revealed that you did not know where Dongolo is located although it is very famous as having been a key and strategic site in the battle of Fenkil, Yet today you are pontificating about matters beyond your knowledge. If you had a scintilla of integrity you would have not made such blatantly false statements as “it’s effort for development is more conducive to the Eritrean central and southern regions.” The reason that Asmara, Dekemhare and Mendefera are let to rot falsifies your claim. One of the cornerstones of Shaebia’s vision is “social justice” as a consequence of which the government spends a large portion of its limited resources and overwhelming efforts to build schools, roads, clinics and hospitals, etc, in the disadvantaged regions of our country. The tens of thousands of trained personnel in agricultural, medical, engineering fields from the highlands who serve in the less developed regions of Eritrea for little remuneration contradicts every statement you made. Since I am not allowed to provide a link, I have included excerpts from an article titled “Boarding School: An All in One Industry” as an example of how social justice works in Eritrea, The English may not in par with yours, but the content should be edifying for someone who professes is in search of edification.

        Boarding schools in Eritrea started in the pre-independence period in some liberated areas. During those times there was a school by the name “Zero”. Zero School was the very center which educated a number of nationals. This school served as a platform for the development of Eritrea’s educational system. It also served as a center of research and development of national curriculum and mother tongue education policy. This school also nurtured teachers, technicians, health care professionals, operators, and other professionals in different disciplines. All professionals trained in Zero proved to be “Change Agents” when deployed in any work area. The experiences acquired form this school has served for the implementation of such like educational policy that opens a venue for the disadvantaged areas in the post-independence Eritrea.

        The EPLF also opened Satellite Boarding schools in different areas of the country such as in Asmat, Baqula, Mograib, Jerbet and all these schools continued to show progress in the post independence period. Since the wake of independence, the expansion of boarding schools has continued to meet and address the imbalances created by colonial powers in educational access all over the country. There are now 11 boarding schools having 7,242 students, the 1,698 of who are females. All the students that have been educated in the boarding schools are from all nine ethnic groups of the country. Besides the 11 boarding schools, there are 28 para-Boarding schools that accommodate 2,710 students, the 747 are female learners which are partially funded by the Government and local communities.

        Boarding schools in Eritrea have been introduced to enable students make maximum use of the schooling opportunity provided for them. The existing boarding schools of the country are now playing a vital role in narrowing opportunity gaps and to that end 12.7 of annual budgetary allocation of the ministry of Education have been used in the development of boarding schools. The ultimate goal of opening such like schools does not need too much detail. Its main target is to enable students develop know-hows in different disciplines, and besides that boarding schools have mainly been center for nurturing competent, talented and committed nationals who can exert efforts for self-improvement and growth of national economy.

        What the children with economic, geographical, and other sorts of challenges lack most is proper care and attention and what the boarding schools do is playing a fostering and caring role to all students. More importantly the opening of boarding schools in Eritrea is to prevent any wastage of human power.

        Boarding schools in Eritrea have generally been venues that opened free schooling to the disadvantaged parts of the Eritrean society. Through the opening of these schools access to junior and secondary level education for students who face different schooling problems due to school-village distance have been alleviated by a great deal. Due to measures that have been taken to encourage people send their children to nearby schools and if not possible to boarding schools, there have a promising enrolments of students. In the period between 2007 and 2013 alone 42,922 students and the 8,744 of whom are female learners have become beneficiaries of the schooling opportunity opened in different boarding schools.

        All the students nurtured in the boarding schools have been exemplary not only in leading and enjoying modern lifestyle but also in influencing their respective communities.

        But, as is difficult but not impossible to register 100% success, there have been vivid deficit that could affect the boarding schools in a number of ways. Some of the challenges and limitations in the boarding schools include: low or nominal enrolments of students from some ethnic groups, insufficiency or lack of general electricity service, lack of efficient infrastructure and other relevant utilities in some boarding schools, and low school performances which registered not more than an average achievement of 78.5 % between 2007 and 2012. There is almost no community participation or is very nominal in most of the boarding schools.

        • Selamat Consolation,

          I am very aware of Zero school. I was heading there in 1981. Thanks for the share. I am also very aware of the efforts of the Eritrean regime expansion and construction of schools in remotes areas of Eritrea. I am also aware of the numerous difficulties these efforts have been hampered by including the shortages of teachers and more than likely adequate funding. The effort is spread very thin and the quality of education, particular in the higher education institutes, is questionable as well as the high drop out rates the education system suffers from. I have just finished reading a Norwegian mission detailed report regarding the accreditation of Both Eritrea’s and Ethiopia’s higher education institutions, i.e. the colleges and universities. In the Norwegian report for example, according to the National Bureau of Higher Education there are difficulties in checking and evaluating the quality and standard of education at the 7 independent colleges since there is no longer central command. In the Norwegian report, which I will share the ling on the weekend if your remind me, you get a sense that the education system in Eritrea has some dire necessities. You can churn out all the graduates year after year all you want and give diplomas or degrees after the graduates complete their

          national service but has the diploma or degree served the students well in their life. How have they applied their Eritrean State education after graduation? These Eritrean graduates join the 2.71 million labor force in Eritrea which is more than likely an indefinite service in government projects and a significant number look for opportunities either through legal means or otherwise elsewhere. There was an understandable rational why the Eritrean regime built these higher learning institutions and spreading them out in the nation. But to utilize the annual cap and gown several times a year for propaganda and feel good ultranationalism fervor should not be the only reason.

          In the age of where data is gold, and data mining is the source of innovation and great developments globally, there is significant lacking of research, analysis and performance reviews data that is shared with the Eritrean citizens and the world where independent sources could find opportunity to innovate as well as contribute in the improvement of the quality and standard in partnership with the ministries. The lack of detailed tracking of the dividends from the regime’s investments is an indication of neglect of the learning institutions themselves. Yes the regime’s continuing to make education available across Eritrea is commendable. There are hundreds fold if not a thousand fold of the number of schools in Eritrea than there were pre independence.

          However, an honest assessment of the effect on Eritrea’s economic development is a must.

          I would like constructive conversation with you and others. So rather than provide me information of Zero school be generous with providing current and real data. The complete lack of information on the economic activities in Eritrea is either due to not having any information of substance to report or the secrecy of and regime with sinister motives that is exploiting the people and fattening its pockets and every now and then throw crumbs to build a school building that is not equipped with adequate and vital supplies like books, notebooks and barely pencils and pens to write. Not to mention the shortages of teachers.

          Dear Consolation,
          You say:
          “The tens of thousands of trained personnel in agricultural, medical, engineering fields from the highlands who serve in the less developed regions of Eritrea for little remuneration contradicts every statement you made.”

          Please can you break down in a table the number of each profession, place of current occupation, the product produced or point me to where I can see the detailed data of all the Eritrean industries. I don’t deny that there exists tens of thousands of trained personal serving as you say. That is precisely the problem. Serving for little remuneration because they do not have a choice. They are commanded by a very controlling dictatorship regime. And where they were adequately trained and educated or not they either are overqualified to serve where they are assigned or are providing poor standard service.

          All the indices on global reports tells the story. 172 out of 179 in control for the past three decades and you are concerned about the image and insist on calling good something that you are seeing as bad.

          My concern with this matter is not to criticize. I am seeking real information and data to utilize my time wisely and see where it is I can help to make things better for the future Eritrea to add to what has already been built. I don’t need feel good ultra nationalist hype. I am fine with feeling bad, have been for a long time.

          So follow me and lets talks of the devils in the details for a constructive purpose.

          GitSAtSE

          PS: I have just been glued to Ethiopia media. The TPLF or Tigrai region has just distributed a 42 page manifest and road map of its intentions to retake control of the Federal government away from PM Abiy. He and his Prosperity party look like they are on shaky ground. Lets hope Ethiopians steer through these very difficult time without too much trouble and lets also pray that the Eritrean regime does not embroil Eritrea in any quagmire that may arise.

          • Consolation

            Gitsatse,

            You may have joined Zero school in 1981, but it is 2020 now. There are 11 boarding schools now all in the disadvantaged regions of Eritrea. There are ambassadors and medical doctors who were brought up in these schools/ For you to dismiss this as old news shows that your professed desire to get data is a deception. If you want data on Eritrea, there is google. Instead of getting glued to Ethiopian media, get glued to Dimtsi Hafash and Eri-TV which daily has at least one news item on development activities in the country. You are an able writer. My advice to you is don’t waste your time and talent on futile gotcha arguments. If you doing research, then this forum is not for you. You will learn little. People who have been grumbling for the past 40 years are not going to add anything new that they haven’t already said. Just imagine the millions of words stored in awate.com’s archives. People could have written books on such things as 1) why did the ELF collapse in the 1981? 2) What was the rationale for the ELFits to pursue destructive policies such as a) decline to participate in the referendum; b) align with the TPLF in the 1998-2000 war; c) be a lackey of the TPLF for the past 20 years. Instead, they waste their lives on futile politicking that they ought to know will never get them what they crave. So again, I urge you not to waste your time in pointless discussions.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation
            If I have to describe you with one word, it would be ትሩፋ

          • Consolation

            mehandis,

            If I do not consider you to be an able writer it is because you are not. I am not going to advice you not to waste your time because you have reached your level of incompetence,

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation
            Funny. Writing meaningless comments doesn’t make you a writer. Your efficiency is < 2%. I chose 2% because that is the favorite % of those useful idiots, which is hgdf parrots [modern slaves].

          • Nitricc

            MM; why don’t you answer for what Consolation is saying? I understand you are accustomed for kissing the behind’s of Digital weyane but when Real Eritrea present the facts shout the F-up. you are nothing but a loser. ” writing meaningless? who is fledging this forum with nothing but BS writings? That is you stupid.

          • Nitricc

            Please can you break down in a table the number of each profession, place of current occupation, the product produced or point me to where I can see the detailed data of all the Eritrean industries

            Hi Tsa-Tse; do you really expected Consolation to provide you that list you asked for. come-on people!!!!

          • Selamat Nitric,

            Well, Consolation did paste part of document that consists of data. That why I thought to ask him. I also though he might have access to sights ending with .er

            His suggestion of googleing for data which I was already doing will have to do for now.

            What is your point? Do you know who I can ask?

            GitSAtSE

        • Sultan

          Consolation:
          I admire and appreciate your “data driven and evidence based” counter-arguments and analysis on the current affairs of Eritra.
          Let me be BLUNT here:
          -Eritrea could have done way better than what you narrated if the PFDJ Gov were to create a conducive environment for its citizens, but rather,it has created the WORST environment so as to make Eritrean to run away( let alone to go/come in to invest )!
          There is no basic water in most parts of the country , man, if you watch the Eri TV where /when citizens are boldly and courageously complaining about lack of basic things including water for sanitation.
          The best way would have been to go there and live the life Eritreans are living in order to appreciate, admire or criticize the PFDJ Gov and the current Eritrean affairs at home and facts on the ground.
          If the Diaspora donated close to $20 million for COVID-19 Crisis, don’t you believe that that figure could handle the short term and basic needs of what the Eritreans at home are begging for?

          Am just saying…

      • Sultan

        Sellie:
        I heard this claim that Afars are being denied fishing since the UAE took over Aseb or even before!
        Is this confirmed?
        This is GROSS!
        Your argument saying “…since the Kunamas are not getting any thing from the Bish Mining /Share and the Afars are getting from Fishing,but the Central Region( Read :Highlanders and Christians)are the ones getting the Lions share , is unsubstantiated and a bogus claim!
        Semere answered for you through questions telling you that the so called Highlanders and Christians are getting extra!
        The socio-politico-economic- religious INJUSTICE in Eritrea is “pandemic” and universal !
        As such, the focus should be to fight the “Pandemic” in a universal and united way!
        This kind of regurgitation of these new old controversial and polarizing articles in the name of Justice can only benefit the regime and derail the Universal Fight for justice .
        I can tell u something as an eye witness account I never wanted to say:

        -After the independence , the people from Shebek area( Tigrinya Speakers neighboring the Blin and BeniAmir of Anseba Region ,who were literally pro Janhoy and Derghi besides being spy agents and Nech-lebas Militia of sane regimes)were given priority to settle in Hagaz sub-urban Town and the “Original Settlers” were indirectly or directly discouraged per the reports from same “originals”.
        -Karen city and most of its businesses and housing projects were allegedly taken over by the Highlanders( vividly obvious and gross without going into details)!
        -Even a National lottery won by a local resident of Keren was deprived from the prize!
        A certain senior Tegaru like named Wedi Lemma was responsible for all the MESS in Keren area and was “sued and successfully” brought to a “ Kangaroo Court” but nothing happened to him and was only removes from Keren after collecting an immense wealth !

        As a courtesy, am just touching the tip of the iceberg and this is no a gossip or innuendo!

        I just want to move on and work on SOLUTIONS rather than creating more problems and adding fuel to the fire and to injure the unhealed wound..

        Irrespective of his arrogant approach , Yasmin has made tons of points but we all know this and what we need is NOT complaining and moaning and screaming but working together by learning from our past mistakes for a better today and tomorrow !

        • Selamat Sultan,

          When black people in the USA say Black Lives Matter and want their fair of justice and opportunities, some white people think or hear that black people want to take what they have or posses.

          No where did I say Eritrean christians are benefiting from the Bisha gold mine or the large commercial farming the government encourages.
          Use your head doc and see the logic as you are capable, unless you choose to shut your mind.

          1) The central government of Eritrea is concentrated in the central region of Eritrea. That is the reason the TPLF or any foreign invader would not end the war until they reach Asmara. So again GoE is concentrated in the Central region.
          2) The GoE runs the command economy including the sharing of the Bisha gold with Bisha inc. So, the GoE gains from the extraction and we don’t know how much those who are in control of GoE keep for themselves and how much they benefit all Eritreans.
          3) The Eritrean Kunama loose land and their way of life. The Kunama are barely represented in the seats of power. The Kunama see people from the central region have control of power and the center of power is concentrated in the central region.

          So, the Kunama see themselves as the losers and exploited and the central region benefiting from the traditional Kunama lands.
          I didn’t say who but I suspect those at the helm of power are benefiting tremendously. It would be stupid not too when there is no one to check you.

          So nice try but you can’t possibly put words into my mouth and say that I said something which is against my proven clean principled stand.

          Yes, the central region benefits at the expense of the Eritrean Kunama.

          GitSAtSE

          • Sultan

            Selam Sellie:
            Sorry for misreading you if at all I did;but most forumers would “ prob misread you” as I just did!

            I thought u tried to play around with words!
            When u claimed “The Central Region benefits”, it might imply or might sound “ saying “ The Highlanders( read: Christians from Yasmin et al’s perspective).

            The simple fact:
            Only the Regime and its Agents benefit from the Mining , not the Central Region or its people!
            I thought Asmera , by default, the Central Region and its people,regressed 25 years back, and the periphery rather progressed a bit forward,relatively speaking.

          • Sultan,

            “The Central Region benefits”, it might imply or might sound “ saying “ The Highlanders( read: Christians from Yasmin et al’s perspective).

            ID DOES. IT IS!!!! Doc wake up or stop playing games. Along with many others I have also been a teacher and it gives me pleasure to keep on teaching until the student gets it and rewards with ahhh!!!
            Now the perspective of Yasin and the Kunama or Hidareb or Nara is the most important perspective here. My perspective, and I happen to be a Tigrigna, is not important and that is if I even possess a perspective on the matter because I may not see or experience the suffering.

            Okay, lets say Yasin is an Eritrean from the Afar nationality whose family and ancestry dates back two millennia. His great grand father who practiced animal husbandry and fished on the Red Sea as well as traded across the Red Sea with the Arabs and in land with the Ethiopians, Eritreans, Djibouti, Somalia and as far as the Sudan. When the Italians came into Eritrea, they focused mainly on the central highlands and the Port of Massawa. They introduced factories, cafes, limited education and influenced some of the Eritrean highlanders to leave their villages and farming and become urban dwellers, factory laborers, mechanics, ground keepers for Italian homes. These highlanders loved the buzz of the urban way of life and immolated their Italia bosses and viewed their urban way of life amongst the villas, buildings, cars and motorsycles and machismo machines etc… as a higher and more developed life than farming or herding livestock in their villages. They demanded more literacy, including in the Italian languages and were even starting to get civil service positions to administer the urban centers under their Italian bosses. When the Italians lost control of governing those urban centers to the British, the Eritreans in the urban centers got more higher education, including a university in Asmara in 1959 and were gong ho about more of the same as the Italian way of life

          • Sultan,

            What the urban centers urbanized Eritreans considered a better and civilized and more educated way of life which the Italians introduce influenced the central regions did not have the same effect on Yasin’s grandfather’s traditional lands of Denkel. Yasin’s grandfather was content with the higher education he acquired from his traditional higher learning institutions and it served him well to practice what gave him and his family sustenance of animal husbandry, fishing and trading. The Italians did not have much effect on his way of life or interfere much and when they did interfere his grandfather put up a formidable fight to keep them away. And when the Ethiopians took control over governing the territory we know as Eritrea which encompasses what we knew as Denkel, Yasin’s grandfather home land, Yasin’s grandfather encouraged Yasin’s father to join the effort of the five regions waging an armed struggle to eject the Ethiopians our of their territories. Each region delegated to liberate its own region from the Ethiopian encroachment. A lot of things happened like the five armed regions consolidated into fewer and fewer united effort, agreed to fight anywhere and everywhere in the territories and have a common goal of common ownership of a united country they would all call Eritrea.

            Unfortunately by the culmination of the fight those same Eritreans urbanized with the view the European way of life of factories, flashing brightly lit cities and paved roads with ambitions to be just like their former Italian bosses took firm control of all Eritrean territories away from Ethiopia. Yasin’s father who fought to rid the Ethiopians from his territory alongside those Eritreans now taking control of the land welcomed the change with the hope that the Eritreans from the central regions will return the use of the Denkel land to the Afar to live just as his father and his fathers father etc.. have done. Yasin’s father figured the Italians have mostly gone to their lands, as did the British, as did the Ethiopians and his former partners the Eritreans from the Central regions will also go back to their lands to live as they wished and leave the Afar lands to the Afar so that they too can go back to their way of life. Sure they expected cooperative use of the all the Eritrean regions and understood there would be an umbrella government for all which they agreed to during the fight against Ethiopia, but Yasin’s father expected that they would have a say on how to govern and use the land and that their way of life will be very little disturbed.
            Unfortunately those in control of the government who saw the way of life of urbanization and the Italian or European way of life as more developed, better and more civilized than the beautiful way of life of Yasin and the Afar which the were blind to see , imposed and commanded the development of utilization of the Denkel region and the Red Sea shore lines as they saw fit. They would tell Yasin his father’s way of life is uncivilized and backward and insist that Yasin join the schools they build and to abandon his father while simultaneously pushed out the Afar to migrate to foreign lands.

            Yasin can only visualize the Afar way of life he grew up in and the oral history he heard from his grand father. Yasin is not impressed with the urban centers he visited in the central region. Yasin did not believe the European way of life to be higher or more civilized the the Afar way of life. Yasin was perplexed by why the central region urbanized Eritreans were vigorously imposing and encroaching their will on the Afar land without him and the Afar benefiting. Yasin witnessed the losses the Afar way of life was incurring and surely those central region urbanized people must be benefiting by being in the Afar territories.

            And so from Yasin’s perspective, those in control of the government which is concentrated in the central region are mostly from the central region and are of the different christian religion and are the ones benefiting at his and the Afar people’s expense.
            This perspective is the most important perspective. You Sultan should respect it, give it great thought and address Yasin’s issues and great source of pain and explain to Yasin directly that it is a few individuals who have corrupted the vision that are benefiting at the expense of Yasin, the Afar as well as the people of the central region.

            Now add some animation illustration, publish it as a children’s book and distribute and teach to all Eritrean children of the grave injustice that has befallen Yasin a fellow Eritrean from Denkel and the Afar nation.

            Repeat to yourself 100 times: Yasin’s perspective is the most important perspective.

            GitSAtSE

          • Sultan

            Sellie:
            Chilax buddy.
            I know EXACTLY where u r coming from !
            Would you be surprised if I were to tell you that am the Yasin Ahmed,whom you’re are trying to support and to sympathize with?????

            Am not denying Yasin to express his concerns and legit grievances .

            Here are my simple points:

            -Wether Yasir is expressing about the sad situation of our poor Afaris or not, at this moment in 2020 we all Eritreans are Afaris

            -Since we know all these real and perceived facts, there is NO point of regurgitating daily and make things appear as if the Highlanders are oppressing the Lowlanders , which could lead to further animosity and polarization of the already polarized Eritrean Society, which in return will make us the victims of our old new enemies since we are “literally executing their agendas on ourselves by ourselves”.

            Having said that thought, let us be vigilant that there might be guahalu working behind the scene acting like “Oppressed Eritreans” as a follow up of their allegation that a Silent Genocide is being committed against/on Eri Affaris and Eri Kunamas for an obvious reason and agenda , which has been a well documented fact so as to weaken Eritrea and thereby tear apart Eritrea into pieces and finally to incorporate either the entire Eritrea if they are able to do so or to incorporate our Red Sea Afaris and kunamas for an obvious end result!

            This evil agenda has been going on for 20 yrs, not only on paper and through a toxic propaganda but live and in action on a day light!

            Granted, the bottom line is:

            I don’t buy the divisive and polarizing articles and propagandas that the Highlanders and Christians in general, and the PFDJ Regime in particular, are selectively discriminating and oppressing the Eritrean “ minorities”( a wrong term in Eritrea)/ or preferably/other Social Groups!

            And this simply coz it is the wrong timing and situation to do so…. even though I could have openly told you and lament even more than and beyond what Yasmin is lamenting about —- based on live experience and facts,in an unsolicited and apolitical way!.

            I hope you got the gist of my message but if you don’t get it and you can’t understand me, FEEL FREE TO KEEP BARKING!

    • Sultan

      Selam Semere:’as usual, brilliant pints and arguments but I would rather WARN / advise you to relax a bit and back off from denying some facts so as not to be misunderstood as if you are denying those facts .

      Amhara would tell you as we tell Guad Abi when he deliberately mocks about the unheard of atrocities by his own Leaders:

      “ Yegodda biresa Yetegodda ayresam”!

      That is why I hate these kind of negatively provocative articles and and arguments!

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Sultan

        1. – There is difference between blaming/criminalizing the PFDJ government for its incompetence, mismanagement, unfair treatment of its citizens, and all its deeds as a government, and blaming/criminalizing a whole ethnic group (ethnic Tigrignas) by associating the later with the regime. And that is sad, that is dishonesty, that is destructive, and that is not a winning strategy.

        2. – If the PFDJ government is not transparent with its business, if the PFDJ government is corrupted, if the PFDJ government command economy is not good for Eritrea – as GitSAtSE is alleging – why do people criminalize the whole ethnic Tigrigna. Why do people say “there is ethnic Tigrigna colonization” , why do people say “all power, resources, and opportunities are concentrated in the hands of ethnic Tigrignas”?

        Do you believe that is fair? Do you believe that is accurate claim? Do you believe that is a winning strategy? Do you believe that is the best way to unite the country?

        If not, what is the point of bringing such a garbage?

        Semere Tesfai

        • Selamat Semere Tesfay,

          “2. – If the PFDJ government is not transparent with its business, if the PFDJ government is corrupted, if the PFDJ command economy is not good for Eritrea – as GitSAtSE is alleging – why do people criminalize the whole ethnic Tigrigna. Why do people say “there is ethnic Tigrigna colonization” , why do people say “all power, resources, and opportunities are concentrated in the hands of ethnic Tigrignas”?”

          No one was a greater servant or hoped for great success for the EPLF and the Transitional GoE or the PFDJ than tSAtSE. Never mind before coming to the west, my services was recognized when I was selected to be a delegate at the 2nd EPLF congress. But I don’t know if it is the Eritrean culture bug it was and still is certainly the EPLF/PFDJ culture that requesting for a second look or questioning a command they issue, either for better understanding in order to either improve the command or give better alternative to achieve the same goal as what the original command intended or a better result, suddenly you are an undesirable, unwanted or even worse an enemy. The PFDJ’s corruption is not an allegation it is a factual personal experience of their declaration of war against those of us that a command anything does not bode well with. Every attempt till this day to contribute to that which you believe is yours is meat with swards and spears as opposed to with open arms. Or what would be a very obvious rational to a second, very capable and brilliant grown minds such as yours Semere Tesfay take the argument deny or plead ignorance by categorizing it as “alleged” and then twist and give any meaning that they choose which continues to serve or shielding the obvious discretion and corruption. As you have done above.

          Before I proceed let me just tell you something from my work experience in the past. As an actuarial analyst my tasks included the retirement/severance retirement benefits for numerous CEOs of corporations like a pharmaceutical corporation’s CEOs. I would encounter benefit amounts in the tens, twenties and even thirties of millions of dollars for a single individual. The management and top industry leaders of corporation is very high not only to encourage high and efficient productivity amongst other reasons but also to stop corruption through theft or negligence. So very high compensation is part of the cost of production and those at the top deserve it through rewards for excellent production or punishment for poor performance.
          In a command economy where you are the boss without an overseer to reward or check your bad behavior, of course you will take whatever you want you feel is your reward and produce at the pace and the hour you damn feel like it . That is corruption my friend.
          Yeah, I am dumbing it down and making it painful very long for some one smart as you ST to insult everyone’s intelligence.

          No single individual let alone “everybody” is saying this:

          “why do people criminalize the whole ethnic Tigrigna”

          You are saying the above. No people are criminalizing the whole ethnic Tigrigna. You are saying to the Tigrigna that people are saying this about you in order for some Tigrigna to continue supporting the real criminals. And since you are doing this for innocent people to take part in a crime, then you are indeed a criminal. A smooth criminal at that.

          You can avoid, dodge and twist or corrupt your comprehension of the logical arguments. You are perhaps evading what could make and is intended to make your already very comfortable existence even better. Your loss. But the effort to better my, mine and your life will continue to be forthcoming. With your counter actions and silly childish manipulations you are only emphasizing and highlighting the truth.

          GitSAtSE

          • Sultan

            Sellie:

            “ Lost in translation”!

            I thought Semere is challenging the argument or premise that the PFDJ is same as the Tigrinya Ethnic Group, and by default,the Tigrinya Ethnic Group is oppressing the other ethnic groups!
            Per my reading of ST, he is not admiring or crediting the PFDJ but arguing against the perception that the PFDJ=The Highlander’s/The Christians so as to challenge and/ or refute Yesmin’s misperception since that misperception is an indirect way of propagating animosity between the Lowlanders and Highlanders!

          • Selamat Sultan,

            I am on vacation so I have got time to keep doing what gives me joy. And that is to clear the confusion.

            Again you are wrong. It is only Semere Tesfay and you that want to believe there is an effort to create animosity between Yasin and the Tigrigna highlanders. Yasin asking for his god given right to continue using his lands the same as his father and grandfather. And whoever is to use his lands or rent or lease his lands and gain from it while Yasin’s use is curtailed and his means of production is discouraged and nearly eliminated while he is being
            commanded to follow what ever is ordered of him because his and his people’s way of life is inferior to that of the way of life they are imposing of him is clearly the source of his and the Afar people’s source of pain and suffering and his shouting for his liberty and for his pain and suffering to stop.

            Yasin knows the people who are the cause of his pain and suffering are not his next door neighbor aunts husband an Afar. Nor are the source of his suffering Yemen from across the sea or the Ethiopians who have long left his territory of Denkel. Those causing his suffering are the people commanding his life from their seat of power from the centra region of Eritrea. They are urbanized christian highlanders from the central region in firm control of the power commanding him to live as they wished him to live or to cease living altogether.
            Yasin has animosity with these people.

            You are saying Yasin has animosity with people from the central region who are christians who are suffering the same as Yasin by the same people. Yasin does not have animosity with oppressed people same like him. You and ST are saying this because it obviously has buyers to further oppress Yasin. But I assure you oppressed highlander christians will hear Yasin clearly because they are very familiar of the very same cause oppressing them.
            Give it some though or try me again and I will come right back at you until you fully get it.

            Recognizing Yasin’s source of suffering is enough. Recognizing his source of suffering is plenty. No need to clarify for Yasin who he should he have animosity against. Just lift and eliminate the source of his suffering if you yourself recognize it. You can take the pull the thorn pricking his foot and show yasin that it was this thorn that was causing him pain. That is plenty of decency you would have shown Yasin.

            GitSAtSE

    • Dongolo

      Selam Semere Tesfai. Yassin’s writing is akin to ELF propaganda writing of late 1970s > early 1980s, choke fuel of religious sentiment and divide.

    • Yassin Hamed

      In general, no one lives comfortably in Eritrea under this system, but the situation in the lowlands doesn’t accept comparison.
      Below I will try to respond briefly to the points you have mentioned

      1 – I think I have mentioned in the article which areas are being exploited and in favor of.
      The resource-rich regions I can say are the coast areas and the Gash Baraka. And when you visit these areas, you find little of the indigenous population, either in the field of trade and administration is almost non-existent

      2-a- I didn’t believe ethnic Tigrignas as a whole are happy with the current PFDJ regime but I do believe ethnic Tigrignas are benefiting more than other ethnics by having the PFDJ regime as their government

      2-b- I am not talking here about absolute freedom and integrated opportunities for Tigrinya ethnic but rather equality of opportunity, freedom and citizenship, and these are neglected.
      I think you know that many Of Tigrinyans are desperately defending the system. Rather, they say: (It is we and we are it). How do you explain that to me, isn’t it because they are benefiting from it?

      3- It has been mentioned in the manifestations of internal colonialism in Eritrea are.

      4-a- Some time ago, they were hosted in the Eritrean Television one of the of the Curriculum Department officials and said: Many of the non-Tigrinya ethnic groups don’t want to send their children to schools to learn the mother tongue, but they are forced to do so, and the reason is that whenever they visit government offices and want to fill some papers they are asked to fill them in the Tigrinya Or do they come with interpreter, imagine this in their areas, and when they want to send their children to the Tigrinya schools, they refuse them and refuse to open schools in Tigrinya in their village, what is the meaning of that. isn’t it an exclusion from competition in any job?!

      B- comparing the Muslim and situation is unfair, if not all most of the Eritrean know what happened with almost all the Islamic information teachers, if you don’t know I’ll tell you they been sent to jail and no one about their situation till the moment, in turn the Muslims haven’t one to teach them the way they should practice their faith.

      C-I have no objection to any citizen living anywhere within the homeland, but in all norms that the Indigenous people has priority in his region, and what happening in Eritrea is the exact opposite, which is Undeniable.

      5- a- Your question includes an acknowledgment of the presence of internal colonialism in our country, which is good, because when the disease is diagnosed, it is easier to seek a treatment. As for your questions about the existence of a country that does not have internal colonialism. racism might be a human nature, but it’s not supposed to be common and assumed that there is a law to fight it. And if we concede that all countries, or most of them, have internal colonialism, We can also say with all confidence: That all of these countries, are in struggle and revolutions in different forms against that kind of colonialism, but do you think that if there is some crime or corruption in one place that is justified for its existence in another place ?! Wasn’t the whole world colonized until the second quarter of the twentieth century and all the colonial nations were fighting for their independence?! Here comes the struggle for freedom and dignity such we all see the nations around us doing for that.
      B- the unemployment rate has mentioned in the article which is 95% of government employees are Tigrinya, and this is an accurate statistic from within the ministries in Eritrea and published in all Eritrean sites.
      C- been mentioned in the article

      Could you please, please give me (a) an example of a country that doesn’t have internal colonization? (b) the unemployment rate of each ethnic group – ethnic Tigrigna vs the other ethnics (c) examples of unfair educational opportunities

      6- a-There are Muslim students in higher education, but in a small number, and the reason has mentioned in the article which is they get directed to the Teacher Training Institute, despite having obtained the entry marks.
      B- there are
      C- Are not decision-makers, and evidence for that, what the former Eritrean ambassador to China said (while he was a member of the executives: At one point we went to the Minister of Justice to ask her about the prisoner teachers, and her response was that she had no knowledge that there were prisoner teachers.

      7-I think if we want a successful solution, we must first understand the existing problems, and work together to solve them. Here, will everyone be a winner. As in conflict, will everyone be a loser.
      Finally, As your questions have covered every line of the article, I can loudly say that you are a good investigator, but I don’t know as a security or a journalist?!
      Be and everyone of the readers safe.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Yassin Hamed

        Thank you for your detailed response. I hear you loud and clear. You explained to me and to your readers in great detail, the pain you’re feeling. And I don’t question your pain; because I’ve heard it a million times.

        But expressing your pain in an honest way is not the hardest thing. The hardest thing to do is – trying to solve the root causes of the pain you’re feeling, to alleviate (remedy) the pain in the immediate future, and to completely eliminate it in the long run – all by changing the way we run our government and by building bridges of trust between all stakeholders of our Nation.

        Simply put, we know the problems and the concerns you expressed in a straightforward way; now let’s concentrate on the how part – to bring the needed fundamental change.

        And please don’t tell me we’ve to get rid of the PFDj regime, and stop there. Because changing individual people is not going to solve the problem. Changing the way we think, the way we see each other, the way we run our government will.

        Now, tell me your new ideas; your new vision for future Eritrea, your new governing philosophy – what need to change, and what need to be kept if any. And we go from there.

        Semere Tesfai

  • sara

    selam all,
    kulu am ento bkhaire… EID MUBARAK…. to all in the forum.
    see you after the holidays..

    • Brhan

      The same to you.

    • Ismail AA

      Ahlen Sara,
      The same to you, dear. Hope this Eid shall be harbinger of good and peace.

  • MebrahtuLight

    Hi everyone,

    I applaud you Yassin for writing how you feel because that is the first step towards finding a solution.

    You make accurate assessments but fail to explain as to why this is the case. For example, you hint that the regime is mostly Tigrinya, but bite your tongue as to explain why. You forgot to inform your readers that it was the Tigrinya-dominated EPLF that liberated Eritrea and subsequently became the government. If we are not equals in the battlefield for Eritrea, then why should we be equal in government representation?

    Also, I had no idea land in Eritrea can obtain religion. I didn’t know there was a “Muslim land” in Eritrea. That is a slippery slope for you because from an archaeological point of view, Eritrea is not favorable to Muslim ethnic groups. What I mean by that is the forerunners of the Tigrinya people have been in Eritrea longer than any ethnic group in Eritrea. The language tells it, the culture shows it and the archaeology proves it.

    My quick solution for people like you is to seek independence, because Tigrinya youth in Eritrea are in no mood to compromise with you since they are doing all the heavy lifting in Eritrea. They feel your side has not been earning their keep.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mebrahtulight,

      I quote: “…..from an archaeological point of view, Eritrea is not favorable to Muslim ethnic groups.”

      Every now and then we hear weird arguments in this forum. Would you mind to present your archeological study on the settlement of Eritrean on the land called Eritrea? Second do you know the Eritrean settlers were there way before the coming of “Christianity and Islam” to the land called Eritrea?

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Aman,

        It seems this MebrahtuLight is a second generation immigrant’s child or perhaps arrivals a little earlier. It is clear from his attitude that for him there is much to be learned about Eritrea. If he would be patient, and would be smart, he would get a lot of information from peers and informed discussants here. That would help him to straighten his currently too shallow, wierd and raw information about our country and its inhabitants.

    • Haile S.

      MebrahtuLight,

      You said “…… The language tells it, the culture shows it and the archaeology proves it”. Suppose your theory is correct and every corner of Eritrea was populated by a ‘tigrigna’ 3000 years back. What makes you think that the guy of moslem confession in Haikota was not a descendant of the ‘tigrigna’ in the area?
      Mebrahtu መብራህትኻ ኮሊዕካ፡ ተመራሚርካ፡ ሓሲብካ መልሰለይ።

      • MebrahtuLight

        Hey Haile,

        Which statement is more silly? To claim there is a Muslim land in Eritrea or to claim Tigrinya people are descendants of the oldest ethnic group in Eritrea? His claim is an opinion, and mines is a fact.

        Google “‘BBC – Oldest’ African settlement found in Eritrea”

        The ONA community of present-day Asmara is the oldest known settled civilization in not just Eritrea but the Horn of Africa. The “Habesha culture” that Ethiopians counterfeited and PFDJ commies want to distance themselves from comes from this ancient group. All the kingdoms from Adulis to Aksum, came from these people.

        Someone from Haikota would likely be a Beni Amer. Beni Amer themselves say their ancestral homeland is Suakin, Sudan. They arrived in Eritrea in the 16th century. From a historical point of view, a Beni Amer is a guest when compared to the Tigrinya.

        Under PFDJ, we are led to believe that Beni Amers are Tigre people. That is not the case. They are Bejas from Eastern Sudan who speak Tigre.

        • Haile S.

          Mebrahtu,

          The way I see Yassin’s article is a reflexion on the lack of representation and social injustice. I don’t agree with that terminology (muslim land) he used, but what I take is the expression of his frustration. Imagine your government was composed of Mohammed, Khaled, Yassin, Hamid, Ismael, Zeinab, Saleh, Abdelhuhad, Abdelkader, AbdulrazaQ, Beyan, Burhan, Mahmud, Osman, Ali …. and then finely sprinkled with Mebrahtu and Mebrat. What would you say? And remember, based on what you said classifying everybody and talking for them, you looking like acting as a judge, jury, prosecutor, trial lawyer and accuser. You didn’t leave a space to the accused. My understanding is that Yassin is talking about that accused feeling while he is equal owner of our common house.

          • MebrahtuLight

            Hi Haile

            Mebrahtu is actually a Tigre and Tigrinya name. You wont believe me because you assume Muslims must have Arab names. For example, the popular Tigre singer Aklilu Mebrahtu is a Muslim. Mebrahtu is not a Christian name. It just means HIS LIGHT.

            There is no equality in Eritrea.

            No one seems to care that its mostly Tigrinya youth dying for Eritrea in numerous wars.

            No one seems to care that its mostly Tigrinya youth in the military and National Service.

            No one seems to care that its mostly Tigrinya people fleeing Eritrea.

            No one seems to care that its mostly Tigrinya taxes that fund the socialist communist projects in “Muslim lands”.

            While on the topic of taxes, the Isaias regime over taxes Tigrinya people and under taxes Muslim minorities. Again, when it comes to Muslims, Isaias puts on his kid glove. He is a total coward and a wimp. He lacks real leadership. He is so afraid of Muslims protesting him that he burdens the Tigrinya to cover their obligations as citizens. Which builds resentment in Tigrinya people.

            To put it in perspective with American states. The Kebessa state would be California and the rest of the regions in Eritrea would be southern states like Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, etc. California bails out the other US states because the deep south lacks the ability to fend for themselves.

            These Muslim regions in Eritrea lack the education, lack the man power, lack the ability to function without Tigrinya intervention. Even with Tigrinya intervention, Eritrea is still a failed state because the economy of Eritrea is based on communism aka unity in poverty.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Mebrahtu,

            Just 4 things:-

            – In the example I provided, I was generous enough to leave two positions to Christian names. Now you islamized one and on the way you reduced it to one position :-).

            – In your lengthy defense, you seem to be describing the same thing as Yassin did with the difference that you saw in it heroism and him internal colonialism.

            – The apparently “privileged treatment” of muslims by the Isayas regime you listed reminds me of the tigrigna adage ኣብ ጥቓ ትኪ ዘሎ ቆልዓ ኣይተብኪ. Isayas regime have some kind of generosity then.

            – On the Lacks in the muslim regions you listed፥ ሰብ ካይሰምዓካ!

        • Brhan

          Hi MebrahtuLight,
          This is the most craziest statment I read in the forum. Google and BBC always quote references: acedemic sources. Do not put words into the mouth of google and BBC.

          • MebrahtuLight

            Hi Brhan

            Most people do not like to read. So I gave the masses quick information that can be digested by most people. Btw, that BBC article quotes US archaeologist. It is very credible. But if you want academic work on the ONA civilization, then read the following books:

            1. The archaeology of ancient Eritrea by Prof. Peter R. Schmidt, Prof. Matthew C. Curtis, and Zelalem Teka

            2. Historical Archaeology in Africa, By Peter R. Schmidt

            I believe the new book being written by Italian archaeologists on Adulis will mention the ONA community and its significance

            Btw, ONA means ruins in Tigrinya and Tigre.

          • mad mullah

            Hello Mebrahtulight,
            I have the first book and I gave the book to other Eritrean people. Yes you are right about the ONA civilization. Yes you are right about it been the oldest in Horn. The book also show connection between the Ona civilization and Nile Valley civilization.
            Remember Schimdt books is fairly recent archaeological work- there are a lot of Eritrean that don’t know about it. So don’t be surprised by some of response you get… Most people’s information is from hearsay or wikipedia not archaeological text.
            For most folks we hear about connection between Yemen and the Horn Africa… but most of significant external influence is from the Nile Valley. The Yemen connection is minimal but there are mythologies…

          • MebrahtuLight

            Hey Mad Mullah

            You are absolutely right. Most people in the region want to talk about Yemen, Saba, Habashat, and outdated phony mixing theories from Yemen, but the greatest influence came from Nile Valley civilizations, including ancient Egypt. The Stella that litters the Eritrean highlands and northern Tigray, can be found in Kassala, Ancient Egypt, etc. In fact the stella in Kassala are older than the ones in Eritrea and Tigray. The Egyptian ones are obviously the oldest. So we see a clear cultural connection between Nile civilization and Eritrean highlands.

            I have no doubt that Eritrea was the Land of Punt (based on scientific evidence and Ancient Egypt inscriptions) but I dont think land of punt was a kingdom. It was a geographic region in Eritrea without centralized authority. Perhaps a group of people with similar cultures who identified as Punte. Based on AE wall paintings, Punt people had wooden homes on high sticks. This explains for the lack of archaeological evidence within Eritrea of Punte homes, even though we have other evidences proving Eritrea was land of Punt. Wooden homes decay and break down in years.

            But we are under the Ghedli era communist junkies. They much rather talk about 1950s Federation Era politics and the Liberation Era, then talk about Eritreas ancient past.

          • mad mullah

            Hello M.Light,
            We don’t have leadership of scholar or civic minded folks so they don’t see the value in connecting Eritrea with its ancient history. They can relive their great “battle” talking about liberation, etc…

            You know the Queen of Sheba myths with King Solomon, etc… re-orient us to Near east… this is all myth. For all the talk about Yemeni people coming to Horn and mixing you will not find much archaeological evidence. The Obelisk are more likely borrowed from Kush… like the phoenix lion found in Eritrea

            You have to know the difference between mythology and real evidence based history. For example, Israeli archaeologist have spent nearly 60-70 years to try to discover the vast kingdom of David and Solomon. All they can find is “possible” locations with some minimal structure. And across the Red Sea you can find 5000 years of archaeological evidence with written documentation… in Egypt.

            I am glad Professor Schimdt and Zelalem Teka made the connection and exploration. I am sure if the right funding and support they can find more remarkable material.

          • Aligaz G

            mullah,

            Where is the the archaeological evidence to prove for example the Rashaida migration to the Horn? Historians don’t depend solely on archeology these days. The trick is to include as many data points as possible to get a more complete picture while at the same time being careful to avoid biasing your analysis. But I agree with your central theses that relations with Ancient Egypt and Kush have been minimized for many reasons.

          • mad mullah

            Hi Aligaz,
            I was talking about advance civilization. We know about Axum because of its Obelisk. Most of Archaeological evidence in Prof. Schmidt and Teka books stress a connection with Nile Valley there isn’t much with Yemen.
            You can also do DNA testing… I personally don’t see much difference in physical appearance between a person in Keren and someone in Hargesia Somaliland.
            There is too much myth of Arab/Yemen connection whether it comes from via Christian or Muslims…

          • Aligaz G

            mullah,

            Are you saying Rashaida are not advanced? Be careful

          • mad mullah

            Hi Aligaz,
            This conversation is not about arabs it is about Ancient Eritrea history based on Archaeological evidence not hearsay or myths.
            When I say advance civilization I am talking about something like civilization that have left their mark…
            What do I need to be careful about… you sound ridiculous

          • Aligaz G

            mullah,

            You are wrong the fact that Rashaida have not left their mark archeologically does not mean they are not an advanced society. Now if we take Google or Amazon as some sort of culture by your definition they would not be “advanced”.

          • Samuel

            Selam mad mullah,
            Please stop your self-importance narratives, try to be humble, ready to learn and explore areas you have never been. I don’t think “you never look good by looking someone else bad” attitude takes you anywhere.

            In your comment above you said “We know about Axum because of its Obelisk.”, because that is what you were told to know, just the Obelisks. However when you visit the city and see yourself you will learn more than what you see on books and pictures. Axum isn’t only about Obelisks, may the Obelisks are the ones that you see from distant, I advise you to visit the city. I promise you when IA is gone I will visit Asmara and its surrounding area to learn about community and the historical places.

            Note that Axum city was cultural, political and economic center for thousands of years, thus even though you haven’t been there, you have to assume that there are many artifacts and civilization signatures more than the Obelisks. There are stone engraved documents that tells you so much about the rulers, the people, the territory they administered, the battles they fought, the way of life, etc. Those stone engraved documents are written in Geez, Sabean and Greek. I guarantee you there are many things that you will learn once you visit the city.

            There are two cities, the new Axum and the old Axum, there are castles, tombs, underground tunnels, manuscripts, etc.

            Last but not least, when it comes to communities, religion, and civilization discussions, let’s all have humility, let’s try to learn and explore our regions, because our biasness could cause so much damage.
            Greatness isn’t what you claim about the past but what we do today to influence our people. We have dictators who are not ready to help our people, thus we have to fight those dictators instead of playing “blame and claim” games.

            Thanks,

          • Dongolo

            Selam Samuel. Not sure if you are old enough to know, but the horrible manner in which the TPLF has failed to safeguard Axum and Yeha is simply pathetic. Uncontrolled houses being built over unexcavated land near the obelisks which now are fenced in; a bad case of TPLF land grabbing in its own back yard. Yeha which use to be a stand alone temple, has now been encircled by a church and a perimeter, and is being treated as a pay-for-view Christian site for which it isn’t. Corruption/scams around tourist sites in Axum now reign supreme, much worse now than at pyramids in Egypt and so many homeless and beggars always pestering tourists. Unfortunate that with all the billions that the TPLF looted, that they let Axum and Yeha become like this….Sad…sad…sad…

          • Hashela

            Selam Samuel

            It seems that your main concern packaged in “humility and humbleness “ is about ongoing Eritrean archeological works and findings that have the potential to compete with and predate the artifacts found in Axum. The collaborative work between Italian research institutions and Eritrea in Zula the has potential and promise to expand our knowledge spatially and temporally and to lead to a bigger picture and better understanding of settlements and societal development in our region. Inevitably, the emerging big picture will diminish the status of small localities that have so far enjoyed disproportionate attention. Regionally, this is a win. Of course, the narrow minded TPLF perceives it as a threat and would not hesitate to destroy it. Let us remember that during the TPLF invasion of southern Eritrea, the first act of TPLF was destroying archeological sites, including damaging Obelisks using dynamites.

            One is attempted to claim: without Zula no Axum!

          • Samuel

            Selam Hashela,
            Read what he said, and then reread my response. My central point is “You can’t look great by diminishing other communities contribution and civilization signatures.“. I am inviting him to learn and explore, I promised I will do too. How is that an issue?

            My view is persistent, I don’t like when others try to diminish the work of others. For example regarding GERD, we all know the contribution of MZ and Engineer Simegnew Bekele, but the last few weeks we have observed disproportional false claims.

            Generally I am open to learn and explore new findings, I am not by any means claiming anything, what I am saying is let’s not try to diminish other communities contribution.

            Let me copy what Amnauel Hidrat shared this morning, “ as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times.”

            Thanks,

          • mad mullah

            Hello Hashela,
            Good point. I am not surprised if TPLF would try to destroy any archaeological evidence. Mind you they deported 200K Eritrean-Ethiopian for no reason except “color of their eyes”
            If the Eritrean had taken the same initiative and deported all Tigrean starting with IA. Eritrea would have been peaceful and prosperous.

            The agenda of TPLF is not a strong and free vibrant Eritrea… it is weaken and controlled and fractious Eritrea… I know this might sound like PDJF propaganda but when it comes to Tigrean you have to do realpolitik.
            When it comes to Tigray always remember the Gugsa Principle.

          • mad mullah

            Hello Samuel,
            You sound a like raving man trying to use Straw Man arguments all over the place. I think you are arguing with yourself and not me.
            The discussion with Mebrahtu had nothing to do with Axum. Axum is a side note. We are talking about the Archaeological evidence in Eritrea and research work of Dr. Schmidt and Teka.
            The Archaeological evidence shows two things: A significant part of cultural influence in Ancient Eritrea comes from Nile Valley and Eritrea has some of oldest settlement in horn. The archaeologist belief they are just touching the surface.
            If Axum has that sort of evidence let the archaeologist of Ethiopia find it and document it and publish… it is a free world. They Ethiopian are really good at finding 4 million old bones anyway.
            The rest of your comment… I don’t know what to do with the rest of your comment.

          • Lebam

            Selam M-Light,

            Have you ever done a DNA test? If you have, why don’t you and I compare results?

            It would be educational for yourself when you’re going berzerk about ancient history. USA has existed for 200 years, how long are other ethnic groups in Eritrea supposed to be guests? You mentioned 16th century before…..

            My results are from Myheritage and they don’t triangulate the results to Eritrea, sadly. But it shows Axum instead. I think ancestry and perhaps 23andme shows Eritrea when the results are in, if memory serves me right.

          • MebrahtuLight

            Hey Lebam,

            Simply put, either all of Eritrea belongs to everyone or we will do audits on who is really Eritrean and which land belongs to whom. Because you can not put an ideological/religious fence up and say this is for Muslims only when the people you are trying to exclude have been in Eritrea longer than you.

            No, I have not done any DNA test due to the fact that I do not want to put my family’s DNA in the system.

            But I am very skeptical of DNA sites. For a long time, 23 and me was telling Horners they were mixed with Arabs based on skewed and insufficient data samples (at least 23&me acknowledged it). However, in recent times, they have gained enough data and have noticed their errors. But the damage is done. The mixing with Arabs claim went on for too long.

            As to your results, it seems accurate. You said yourself you are a “Tigrinya Muslim”, which to me sounds like a rebranding of Jeberti people. It is no secret that Northern Tigray is where many of the Jeberti people came from.

            But there is nothing to be sad about. Your origin doesn’t define who you are. If you believe in Eritrea, are trying to improve Eritrea, then you are an Eritrean.

            My friend took 23 and me and it pinned him down to the exact region of Eritrea his father said he came from. I was impressed by that.

          • Lebam

            Selam M-Light,

            I never claimed Eritrea doesn’t belong to everyone. Religious based boundaries are ridiculous for several reasons. I am strictly discussing our origin, mainly because you yourself seem to be an religious extremist who listened to the bellend Tesfazion too much.

            If you do a DNA test through Myheritage and you’re a “Tigrinya Christian” you’ll end up being triangulated to Axum.

            It is true that many Jebertis are from Tigray originally. However, Jeberties exist in the whole region (Horn of Africa). Btw, IA can be traced to his relatives in Mekelle.

            I wrote that I’m Hamasien before (from my father’s side), but my parents are born in Asmara and their parents raised in Asmara. You seem to have selective memory, or you’re purposely trying to claim Eritrea based on religion. Tigrinya are mostly Christian, and Tigre are mostly Muslims. That is undeniable facts, but don’t mix religion and ethnicity.

            DNA results show that most of us are up to 60% Eritrean/Ethiopian and the rest is mostly North Africa and Middle East. Myheritage will list “us” as Ethiopian Jews.

            My 2 cents to you is, don’t be cocky. You’ll end up sad to find out how diverse you yourself are.

          • David Samson

            Selam Lebam,

            I like the extremist. Being a newbie immigrant, it had initially shocked me when I listened to BNP( British National Party). The language used in their bulletin had sent shivers down my neck. After a while, I began to get relaxed listening to their jumbo mambo. The party is not only outlawed but is censored by the loony left— the BBC. They have been appearing under the disguise of different names, like the English League on social media. I am probably one of the few who objected to BBC’s censorship. Why? Censorship simply does not work, people will go underground if you shut them up; they need o breath out.

            I liked Ali Salim. It is shame that since he is being coerced
            to reveal his identity, he has toned down his language and rarely appears on this site. We need more of Ali’s.

            What I object is one extreme call another one an extremist.
            In multi-faith, multi-ethnic state, extremism is an inevitable fact of life and we should get a grip with it. There is a saying in English “one man’s meat is another man’s poison.

            I always avoid discussing or mentioning “Agazian” for the
            simple fact, people jump to put into a box. I do not believe the Agazian pops out of nowhere; there must be a precedent to it, but we just don’t to call it/them an extremist. I call this attitude as a double standard.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam David,

            It is a bad idea to ban fringe groups, provided they do not break the law. They are unlikely to find traction in the UK.

            The English Defence League (EDL) is not the same as the BNP. In fact, the BNP bans its members from joining the EDL. One cannot, of course, rule out some ex-BNPs who joined the EDL.

            While the BNP is a fascist party, the EDL is only an anti-Islam (not anti-Muslim) movement.

          • Lebam

            Selam David S,

            I agree that censorship can be damaging at times, but giving extremists an outlet can lead to an even greater negative impact on society and easily manipulated individuals.

            I don’t remember reading posts by an Ali Salim, so I have nothing to go on.

            No extremists should get support, that is my outlook. You should avoid supporting Tesfazion for your own sake, at all cost, because you wouldn’t be able to defend his publically made views with divine intervention.

          • David Samson

            Selam Lebam,

            “giving extremists an outlet”.

            Who is giving them an outlet? Eritrean government or opposition?
            None of them. To me, Eritreans have been freed after the invention of the Net, not in 91. Why? Because every single citizen has access to information and could to a larger extent express their views. No government and no censorship. You can’t have a democracy if every single citizen has not been asked to express their free will without any pressure, coercion or threat. The Net is the closest thingy humans come to exercise our idealism.

            Recently, I heard some Ethiopians who live in the land of free calling to ban platform 360. They are not only threatening the individuals who appear on the platform but are urging other Ethiopians to follow suit. If people who live in the western world could have this kind of mindset, what chance do you have to dream one day we will have a democratic society. What gives me sleepless nights and could envisage the future world is when Africans in general or Ethio-Eri, in particular, are in charge of the ISP. This would take the planet to the “Dark Ages”. I hope, I would
            not live long to see the doomsday. So we need to get a grip: These platforms have been created by outsiders and therefore we are not in a position to deny or give an outlet to anyone. We like them have free access to these outlets. If one does not like its contents, no one is forcing anyone to watch it, one can always look away.

            “You should avoid supporting Tesfazion for your own sake, at all cost”

            When and where did I say it? This is exactly my point in saying people are quick to label me. I do not mention the name, let alone
            support it.

            Whether we like or not extremists will be around our neck and will no go away because we wish they some home disappear. You can not ask something to take away if you do not own it in the first place, so my friend just relax and enjoy what Net brings.

          • MebrahtuLight

            Hello Lebam

            Who told you I am a Christian? You are assuming I am a Christian. And who told you I listen to Tesfazion? You are assuming I do with no evidence. To keep it short, you are wrong on both fronts.

            Based on my observation, the only people who seem to care about Tesfazion are Tegaru and Jeberti people. Everyone else ignores him like the conman he is.

            You were the one who mixed religion with ethnicity. You said you are a Tigrinya Muslim. I’ve never met a Tigrinya person who identified as such. A Tigrinya person, regardless if he is a Christian, Buddhist, an atheist, agnostic, Hindu, or a Muslim says he is Tigrinya, full stop. It is because you added the Muslim part to it that I suspected you are a Jeberti. Because a real Tigrinya person does not mention his faith as part of his identity. His identity is tied to his land and then to his language. Again, its the lack of understanding the Tigrinya psyche is what made you slip up and reveal your real identity.

            Let’s talk facts, not conspiracy theories. Isaias grandmother comes from Tigray. Basic fraction says he is a quarter (25%) Tigrayan. For me, I don’t care that he is a quarter Tigrayan. What bothers me is he is 100% communist and that he is a stubborn, cruel sadist.

            Myheritage is facing the same issues 23&me initially faced. Once Myheritage collects enough data points on Eritreans/Ethiopians/Somalis, it too will reverse its position on the Arab mixing nonsense like 23&Me did. Sorry to break it to you, but you are not a product of Arab mixing. If I were you, i would pay for a 23&Me DNA test and see how different it is from your Myheritage one.

          • Lebam

            M-Light,

            I am busy right now, so I will pick your post apart later. Just remember your previous posts, because you seem to have sudden memory loss.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Lebam,

            I didn’t follow mebrahtuLight’s previous posts all the way, but the ones I read seemed familiar attempt to create another brand new plausible historical connection. The excellent coherent language used indicate education, so the confusion on my part.
            There was this guy who goes by nick name “G’hetab” I think, who thoroughly discussed that the present day Eritrea came out of an “Adulisian” civilization that was separate and apart from Axum. He was extremely serious. (I miss him/her)

            I think this one is a new one. The turned upside down and twisted explanation and logic is an attempt to tie ancient Eritrea to ancient Egypt to finally arrive at the bonus reality that Eritrea is really Egyptian at its core.
            I tell him, “Adulisia” is better approach.
            I wonder what it is people of this ilk are attempting to do. What can be gained by it, psychological or otherwise.

            Mr. K.H

          • Sultan

            Selam kim:
            I think Mebrahtu might be talking about this:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adulis

          • Sultan

            Selam Mebrahtulight?Tomas:
            Now u r talking real science!
            Hope Prof Gheteb is reading you!

            FYI:
            I posted a similar and a latest archaeological discovery by the Eri and Italian Archaeologists, which confirms your scientific statements!

            When we were debating about the origin of Blin(?Eritrean Aghew) with someone here , Prof SAAY cautioned us that the history we learned from the Ethiopian Curriculum during the old days of our schooling ( Janhoy-Menghie era) could be a mythology by quoting Prof Ghedewon Abay Asmerom , who argues that the origin of the Ethiopian Aghew and lasta could be,in fact, our Eritrean Aghew/ Blin!
            He said that the migration prob was from north towards the south , which your archaeological science confirms .
            Hope you read the latest findings a year ago by Italian and Eri Archaeologists , who confirmed what you just brought up!
            I posted here an interview in Tigrinya by an Eritrean Archaeologist few months ago!

            Our own Prof Haile S. concurred and advised me that more evidence is coming from that aspect almost confirming that the present Eritrea could be the origin of life and civilization!

            Focus on such a real science rather than on the old styled divisive politics of Tigrinya vs non- Tigrinya ( Christian vs Muslim ; Highland Vs Lowland Boletika )!

            We all know the facts and the truth …and the issue should not about debating on what we know and what happened but to solve the old new lingering problems through a Genuine dialogue and constructive Rapprochement based on tolerance and understanding as well as through a mutual “compromise”!

          • mad mullah

            Hello Sultan,
            You make a very good point. Let the archaeological evidence speak for itself.
            Reading Schmidt and Teka book completely changed my perspective and removed a lot of layer of mythology.

          • Sultan

            Mad mullah:
            This is a bit older Discovery , the one u and Mebrahtu mentioned but the latest one is in 2018 or 2019 around Asmera!
            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313751337_THE_ARCHAEOLOGY_OF_ANCIENT_ERITREA

          • Brhan

            Hi MebrahtuLight,
            Most people do not like to read….this is another craziest statment. It only shows that you are the one who do not like.

        • Samuel

          Selam MebrahtuLight,
          Before you make such outlandish claims, let me give you a piece of advice. Try to have an extended vacation and visit historical places in our region (Eritrea and Ethiopia). Try to visit those places that have historical significance and learn the different civilization signatures there, then write something about your observation. Don’t include any biasness, just your own observation only, it will help you to avoid whatever mindset you have today.

          Thanks,

          • MebrahtuLight

            Hi Samuel,

            I have two words for you: Carbon Dating.

            The ONA civilization in Asmara is without question the oldest settled civilization in the Horn of Africa. It has been carbon dated.

            Nothing in Ethiopia is older than that civilization.

      • Aligaz G

        Ato Haile,

        Playing the devils advocate here – 1. Linguistic studies suggest the introduction of Ethiosemitic around 3000 years ago 2. Genetic studies likewise indicate substantial migration from the Levant no less around the same time 3. The earliest monumental relics are also dated around that time 4. The much maligned Solomonic myth also dates to around the same time 5. The Late Bronze Age Decline is also dated to the same period

        Ok having accepted the magical 3000 yrs then the 64 cent question then becomes which groups immigrated and which groups were native at the time. Assuming a somewhat homogeneous but numerically limited influx 3000 yrs ago it must have been the various interactions with the natives plus continued inflow mainly from across the Red Sea that eventually created the mosaic of cultures and histories that currently exist.

        Now having said all this we now come to the question of the Tigrigna. Surely they are not the original immigrants from Syria-Palestine. So they must be descendants? Yes but so are all the other Ethiosemitic speakers in the region. Genetic studies cannot distinguish a Tigrigna from say a Tigre. So we must rely on linguistics and history for differentiation. The first mention of Tigrigna historically is around the 13th century which is similar to Amharic. Tigrayit seems to have developed earliest but it is not clear exactly when.

        Bottomline the only justification for Tigrigna hegemony in Eritrea is majoritarianisim. But to stretch majoritarianisim to accusations of internal colonialism is dangerous and will only permanently fracture Eritrean unity. Rampant numerical triumphalism vs exaggerated notions colonial victomolgy is not the solution.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Aligaz,

          When do you think immigrants become natives within the reference time frame you have cited? Do you think there could have been other natives before, for instance, the Tigrinya speaking people, became natives. I think conventional truism leads us to thinking that, since immigration and movement of peoples from one place to another is/was a continuous process; isn’t it difficult to establish that in a particular geographical space there could have been natives and others who came to stay among them were immigrants. For example, is it possible to establish that the Habesha mixed race and other segments like Tigre or Argobagna speakers originated in territories they occupy at the present.

          And another point, if I may unless one is an Eritrean with pro-regime inclinations, or a neighbor who is familiar with what is there inside the Eritrean house, your comment on majoritarianisim (sic) could have reflected some sense of objectivity if it should have stated with qualifications.

          While at it, moreover, let me add that the debate about majority and minority in the present Eritrean political context is conversation about the unknown, to borrow a term from Mathematics. It is in fact constricted academic and intellectual exercise. Simply put, there has not been established numbers based on data’s driven from properly done census because the regime has refused to discharge this key requirement the regime.

          Thus, aside from the deceptive politically loaded inconsistent statistics the regime peddles for known reasons concerned Eritreans are aware of, others quote percentages from dubious self-serving sources collected from tabulations of ancient numbers spanning from 1950s, running through Ethiopian occupation era, and at the present number the regime from own perspectives and interests. The fact that should be born in mind is that Eritrea has still to passing through many phases before it becomes an evolved nation-state whose components hail from various areas of origin in which they make majorities.

          The point that should be stressed here is what the regime did and said about the Eritrean peoples should not be taken as final word as some among us try to propagate. The aspired future of the Eritrea and its people is that, when the sun rises after the demise of the dictatorship, the citizen will not need to speak about majority-minority politics. They will see themselves as citizens legally guaranteed rights and duties.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Aligaz, Ismail and all,

          I can’t respond as beautifully as Ismail did to the assumption based analysis you placed. Aligaz, like you, I am the product of Abyssinian upbringing fond of reading that history true or legend-based. The problem most of us have is, we preach to our own Parish and forget to listen to the bells or bellows of the other. Yassin’s use “internal colonizer” is a bitter deafening scream unpleasant uproar to listen, when you belong to those he is addressing. I don’t have enough defending data to argue with him when for instance the cream of the cream administering the nation come from the same differentiating factor (linguistics and history) although our genetic make-up is identical. Add social factors like religion and neighborhood or regionality. More importantly, the injustice felt by everybody will be felt more severely by the one who feels excluded from representation.

          At the risk of some considering it as a made up story, unbelievable or preposterous and some may use it for their sinister motives, let me tell you what a friend of mine (muslim) told me when we were children and playing, just starting school. He said your king is Haileselassie, our king is King Faisal. It stayed in my mind because I didn’t understand how a foreign king can be his while he has no difference with me, his parents being in central-south Eritrea like mine and knowing each other. We can delve into what this really means or gloss it over it as triviality. However, if we Eritreans are to be a nation with strong feeling of belonging and responsibility, our Eritrea must be able to elect a “King” and governing bodies that everybody claim are his or hers.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Ismailo and yourself have tackled well to Aligaz’s “arbitrary argument” on an arbitrary premises. However, my eyes stuck at one of your statement in your comment, and that is: “the injustice felt by everybody will be felt more severely by the one who feels excluded from representation.” It touched to the core of my advocacy. Indeed the nature of injustice varies from one social group to another. Since oppressors use different tactics of injustices, the argument that “we are all oppressed” does not give the full picture to the nature of injustices and the victimIzed social groups. The misrepresentation of our minorities in the institutions of the ruling regime is un disputable realities.

            Regards

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ
            ‘ንታይ ኣዘኪርካኒ መስለካ: ቅድሚ ቁሩብ ዓመታት ሓደ ቤተሰብ
            ከም ጸዓዱ ዝጥዒ ‘ኳ ኣብ ዓለም የለን። ገጾም ጻዕዳ ልቦም ጻዕዳ ይውስኸለይ።
            ኣንታ ሓውና ንሽሙ ‘ኳ ኢኻ ኣብ ኤመሪካ ትቕመጥ ‘ምበር ‘ንታይ ምዃኖም ኣይትፈልጦምን ምስ በልኩዎ ዳርጋ ተባሪዑ።
            ንውሑዳት ዓመታት ፓርኪንግ ይሰርሕ ኔሩ: ደሓር ከኣ ኣብ ሓገዝ መንግስቲ
            ስለዚ ናተይን ናቱን መረዳእታ በበይኑ ስለዝነበረ ክንረዳዳእ ኣይከኣልናን።

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            Your consistency on the subject, granted. No one is taking from you the fight for “minorities”. My skirmishes with you was not on that exact subject. In my first exchanges with you ~3 or 4 years ago, I said “we have to own our regime”. Just reiterating your consistency.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            I believe we are in the same page on the issue at hand. Big time, to be on the same page with a resourceful debater.

          • Aligaz G

            Ato Haile, AH, Ismail

            The product of Abysinnian upbringing – arbitrary assumption based analysis – insensitive not hearing the screams of injustice? Read the post again

          • Dongolo

            Selam Aligarh G. Yeah that part ‘product of Abyssinian upbringing’ caught my eye too and says a lot about who Haile S. is. Yet, he is not hesitant to give advice on what is required of Eritrea in terms of producing a sense of belonging and responsibility.

          • Aligaz G

            Dongolo,

            Not the first time to be attacked personally. I have learned to expect to be labeled by one side or another regardless of the merits so cheers.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Aligaz and Dongolo,

            Aligaz, how is saying I tend to think like you and then explain my view an attack on you? It was not and not personally at all. I was addressing generally all Eritreans when I said we need to listen to the other’s Parish.

            Dongolo, No eureka for you! not so fast, don’t understand that I am the son of a ፍተራሪ :-). My father didn’t even have the pompous ብላታ or ሸቃ :-). I was born and raised in Eritrean and educated under Hailesellasie & Derg. My fond for Abyssinian history among others, a large chunk of Eritrea was/is part of that history. Would you have been happy if I said I respired Eritrea, smelled Eritrea and abhorred Abyssinia despite realities of large chunk of Eritrean central highland population except those early exiled? That would be a pure lie and even Isayas won’t say that 🙂 🙂 :-), just mentioning him as a symbol. Lets leave this and similar issues to Haben and other sociologists like him, a manna from earth to them.

          • Aligaz G

            Ato Haile,

            There is currently ongoing discussions or debates in many companies whether to continue with a virtual work place or go back to a physical work place. In corporate settings whenever the time to close a deal arrives invariably we used to get on a plane. In other words critical discussions fraught with financial implications were never left to email – too easy to queer the deal. This discussion with all the attendant misunderstandings simply shows once again the limitations of this sort of forum. Perhaps Awate should consider moving to Zoom in the interest of clarity.

    • Paulos

      Selam Mebrahtu,

      The two extreme versions presented in this Forum first by Yassin then torpedoed by you are the imprints and legacies of Isaias where the rest of us should refuse to fall in but find the rich legacies of our common cultures and traditions where again Isaias is trying his best to leave it in tatters. Again, the challenges right in front of our eyes are to work on our commonalities instead of handing Isaias a final victory on a silver platter. We refuse a million times. We are united in diversity with a common history and common destiny as well.

    • Brhan

      Hello MebrathuLight,
      I am sorry that the composition of your ጋንታ after Sawa was not diverse, was it by accident?

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Mebrahtu,

      The facade of a unified nation, the slogan of ‘One Heart, One Nation’ is gradually slipping.

      • MebrahtuLight

        Hey simon

        Hade libi, hade hizbi was the biggest lie ever told.

        The only solution for our problem is to take away Tigrinya military protection, Tigrinya assistance, Tigrinya taxes and let them fend for themselves as an independent state. Under these circumstances, I believe they would be swallowed by Eastern Sudan within weeks and beg the Tigrinya to come and rescue them

        The Tigrinya people are the most educated people in the region. The only thing holding them back is Isaias and communism. You remove these obstacles, the sky is the limit for them. For Muslim minority groups, you remove Isaias and communism and they would actually be POORER than today because most of them rely on Tigrinya resources, engineers and taxes to survive.

        • Abi

          Hello MebrahtuLight
          1-Every time I see your name it reminds me of an Ethiopian awatista by the nickname “Tamrat Tamrat”. Just like you he loves his name so much he used to write it twice.
          2- Every time I read your comments they remind me of an Eritrean awatista by the nickname “Thomas “. Just like you he was advocating for Tigrinya independence.
          I suggest you and Yassin, the author of this article, should sit and discuss to sort out where and how to split Eritrea into two independent countries.

    • Sultan

      Mebrahtu :
      Despite your ARROGANCE, you might have points!
      I get “ EXCITED” when I see “ Tigrinya Speaking or “Christian” Extremists”!
      Please put it in a nicer way.
      Statistics might prove you right but not your arrogant approach !
      I read you before you many times endorsing and trying to execute the AgAzian Mantra/Toxic Agenda, the Tesfatsion style!
      That is the very reason I deplore and despise your deliberate divisive approach

      “Kab BehaliU’s degamiU.

      Yasmin is also right but wrong in his undiplomatic and unproven approach .
      But Ustaz Ahmed Rajas statistics could prove him RIGHT!
      Would rather like to see a midway approach.

      But your logic is fallacious for declaring that since the Tigrinya Speakers sacrificed more in the liberation war, which am not sure if it is confirmed ,therefore the Tigrinya Speakers should dominate in governing Eritrea ….

      It was the Lowlanders( Muslims) , who were abused and massacred selectively , while the few Highlanders were getting a preferential treatment and got allured( the Religious and Political Leaders of that time) by the divisive Ethiopian Oppresors,the very reason the Lowlanders/Muslims picked up arms, which then was supplemented and augmented and thereby achieved its success / goal by their Tigrinya Speaking Compatriots/ jointly along with Lowlanders and Muslims/ .

      I guess,at the end of the day,things got balanced but no need to be surprised to see some imbalance in the naturally unbalanced nature and societies with already unhealed wounds due to the leftover religion and region based divisive animosities!

      Our job now is to further neutralize that animosity and mistrust through “A Genuine Reconciliation”followed by an All Inclusive Constitution!

      I am just sick tired of seeing these divisive and obsolete and over-exhausted old arguments , which can only be viewed as new old enemy divisive tactics ,we have become more familiar than ever!

      No need to bring up the language, land, and religion based divisive and polarizing mantra and toxic propaganda!

      This reminds me when our enemies maximized their region, religion, and tribe based divisive and polarizing politics and propaganda against Eritrea and Eritreans when Eritrea was on its LOWEST status in all aspects and fronts in general; and in its political, diplomatic and economic as well as military aspects, in particular!

      It was the time the TPLF and its sponsors maximized their support to the Islamist Extremist Jihadists , the Jerbertis and the separatist Kunamas and Afars !

      Then the ELL ( The Eritrean Lowland League)and the Ali Salim Terrorist style divisive agenda and movement popped up during that time!

      Then the AgAzian ( GaEgazian) Movement got its rebirth and got climaxed as the BEST old new divisive agenda to polarize and weaken Eritra and Eritreans .

      The now and then deliberately refreshed issues of the Arab Language and the Jeberti Politics are but for obvious reasons and to augment the new GaEgazian Movement of dividing Eritrea and Eritreans!

      There is a reason for some us to step back and be caution NOT to be victims of such UNSTABLE and clue less Opposition Groups and to follow the time tested premise saying”Kab Zeitifelto MelAkh, Tifelto Sheitan”!

      I say to both of you and your likes :

      STOP this nonsense and let the Constitution and the constitutionally elected National Assembly resolve these constitutional issues!

      These language, religion, land and tribe issues are non urgent and we should FOCUS on the URGENT MATTERS:

      -Let is “Think twice “ and come back to our senses , put aside our old Ego,grudges and power hunger and thirst and rather work very hard to create a United, Well Coordinated , Independent and Neutral FORMIDABLE FRONT of Justice Seekers through a coordinated central and strong Nonpartisan Leadership Committee .

      We CAN DO it as we Eritreans are “ The CAN DO PEOPLE”!

      We have every capability and resources !

      Just a thought / my naive opinion!
      Unity in Diversity!
      Divided we fall, United we STAND!

      • Sultan

        Selam
        Please, with all due respect mentioning the word Jeberti does not and CANNOT under any circumstance be considered a negative connotation or offensive !
        I just mentioned facts as they are that the Jeberti Movement like other ones CLIMAXED during that time.
        If u are concerned about my stand on the Jeberti issues, I would be the first one to grant them that right and privilege if I were to be a member of the National Assembly !
        The same for the Arabic Language to be our Co- Official Working Language among with Tigrinya and and English while creating the best conducive environment for other languages and their respective cultures to be developed well .

    • Yassin Hamed

      It is nice to have realized the dominance that took place in our home country by some group, but you mentioned an unreasonable reason for that. Unfortunately, many people like you adopt this, which is why I am writing in the hope of finding solutions through dialogue
      Members of the Executive Committee of the EPLF in 1977 were 13:
      1 / okba Abraha
      2 / Ali Syed Abdullah
      3 / sebhat Ephrem
      4 / Hayley born Tennessee
      5 / Potrus Solomon
      6 / Mohammed Saeed Barah
      7 / mesfun hagos
      8 / Alamin Mohamed Said
      9 / Birhane G Ezgaher
      10 / Ibrahim Afa
      11 / Ramadan Mohamed Nour
      12 / Isaias Afwerki
      13 / Mahmoud Sherifou
      Six were Muslims, including the General- secretary,
      Seven Christians, which means they were equally
      Because the General-Secretary voice is considered a watershed when the votes are equal. so how can you say that the majority Of EPLF members were Christians, doesn’t this consider as denial of other rights and a forgery of history ?!
      Note that in this date there was another party ELF which it’s majirity members were Muslims, because most of the Christians moved to the EPLF. however, after the Civil War, many of ELF members moved to EPLF.
      This means that most of the revolutionaries were Muslims.
      I do not like to go into such matters because I believe in equality in citizenship, but I have to responded to you so as not to mislead others with false

      • MebrahtuLight

        Hello Yasin

        It is a fact to say the majority of EPLF were Tigrinya. The UN took census of EPLF demographics after they liberated Asmara. According to their census, Tigrinya and Nara were over represented in EPLF (based on percentage), while on the opposite end, Rashaida and Afars contributed the least.

        The leadership of EPLF did not represent the rank and file members of the front. The goal in having over representation in Muslims within EPLF leadership was to entice more Muslims to join their front and to give Eritreans and the media a feel good story that all 9 ethnic groups were equally contributing to the struggle when that was never the case.

        Unlike EPLF, ELF leadership was dominated by Beni Amers. Even when ELF’s fighters became majority Tigrinya, ELF’s leadership was not inclusive. Beni Amers did not want to share power with Tigrinya.

    • Eri.Star

      Tigrinya isn’t the oldest and is actually youngest in Eritrea. Tigrinya dominant eplf won’t of existed without the Beni-amer that started war.Same
      time you were begging to join Ethiopia instead. Please do your homework. Before the treason act with tplf. Tigrinya were 25% population. Why they don’t want an election or Democracy. IA played all sides against each other. And you all are the losers.

      • MebrahtuLight

        Hey Eastern Sudan Star,

        You seem to have animosity for Tigrinya people. I am not sure why considering the only thing stopping the Hadandawa from attacking Beni Amers in Eritrea are the Tigrinya. You see what they are doing to your kin in Eastern Sudan? Do you really think it is in your peoples interest to poke the Tigrinya elephant in the room while the Nubians, Hadandawa and Amarar Bejas are attacking your people? Perhaps if you speak better Arabic, those groups will stop attacking you?

        • Eri.Star

          Nubian have had severe drought, pushing them up north. Don’t worry about Beni-amer. Brother. We help and fought for Sudan independence and started our independence struggle. Thanks for not dispute the fact without us, there won’t of been a Eritrea. Yes, We own lots of fertile land. People can hate all they want, such as ur tribe. We don’t plan on giving anything up. End of the day we will consolidate our land after IA. BUT..Would be for your interest to help them as they view us as hebesha and ERITREAN. Doesn’t support your narrative of us being assimilated to be a Arab.. We direct children of Geez and AXUMITE. Since when we known, to bow down ?. Agame to Arabs and Nubian can delay, but can never take anything from us. Should be worried after Tigray is gone, focus will go to IA and the minority Tigrinya in Eritrea. We should all get on Code, respect each other. Before Eritrea suffers more.

  • g. michael Tzerai

    Hi Yassin,

    The manifestations of colonialism you enumerated applies to many countries in Sub Sahara Africa and to Central and Latin America, and in some countries, to more than one region within bigger countries than Eritrea such as Nigeria. It could be argued that it is a vestige of colonial era capitalist development even in the case of Eritrea as you indicated on your explanation of colonialism in its historical context.

    The similarity of current regional problems of exclusion and policies of exploitation and oppression in the case of Eritrea to colonialism is departing from the core aspect of colonialism that of transfer of surplus to the metropolis and a colonial government managing the affairs of its colony such as bringing a settler population from the metropolis to exploit and subjugate the indigenous population and of the labor, land the raw materials.

    Your analogy fails on this important aspect of colonialism. More importantly though, it weakens the struggle to eliminate dictatorship at the core by all in all the regions, as one or more regions try to opt out of the vision for a unified objective due to a claim that its case is the case of colonial oppression and aim for independence.

    The problems you enumerated to make a case for colonialism is in the nature of capitalist development even with in the developed world such as the north south symptoms in countries like Italy and the UK. The manifestation in the US are too numerous to list.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam G/Michael Azaria,

      Good to see you back. Could you clarify or elaborate the following paragraph of your comment:

      “……. it weakens the struggle to eliminate dictatorship at the core by all in all the regions, as one or more regions try to opt out of the vision for a unified objective due to a claim that its case is the case of colonial oppression and aim for independence.”

      I always understand your comment. This time, I couldn’t.

      Regard

      • g. michael Tzerai

        Hi Aman,

        If we accept Yassin’s reason for a problem in any region of Eritrea as an attribute of internal colonization, then we have to accept the region’s aspiration to independence from the perceived colonizer in Eritrea. This vision cannot be reconciled to the vision we the rest of Eritreans have about eradicating the dictatorial and traitorous PFDJ and transitioning to that which governs with the rule of law and that is open and accountable to all Eritreans. In other words we do not have a shared vision of Eritrea.

        That tigrinya speeking Eritreans have dominated the political, economic sphere of Eritrea is too obvious to overlook even with a depopulated kebesa. But this was cast in stone when the Italians decided to locate their colonial capital city in Asmara and as all roads lead to Rome, all roads also lead to Asmara, thus started the process of urbanization. This with the Italians interest in Ethiopia, the kebesa Eritrea also became a staging area for conquest. The settler population was made to occupy this area and the rules of colonial government to favor its citizens at the expense of the indigenous reinforced the unequal development of the regions. This phenomenon is well documented and analyzed by E.A Brett on his study of the Kenyan experience with settler economy that dominated other regions of Kenya which is at the root of the instability in that country. If somehow the Italians for what ever reason had decided that Teseney or Asab or Massawa should be the capital city, it would be obvious that the peoples in that particular region would be impacted most by land expropriation labor exploitation, but at the end of it all, they would be the beneficiary of the advantages the kebesa region has.

        This discussion is almost moot when the entirety of Eritrea is degraded by Issayas to worse than the conditions were in pre-independence and what ever is left of it to hand it to Ethiopia. The discussion should strengthen a shared vision of Eritrea.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam G/Michael,

          Thank you for your clarification. The reason I asked you, b/c I don’t want to respond by assumptions. Now back to my comment. Let me start with this quotation from Thomas Jefferson, to make my argument:

          “ as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times.”

          The above quotation reminds us that new discoveries of concepts could emerge in the evolutionary and revolutionary thoughts of human being, as a result we can not stick to classical concepts and definitions. Your argument is based on classical definition of colonialism. But there is new phenomenon of colonialism identified as “internal colonialism”.

          From my reading “Internal colonialism” is the uneven effects of economic development on a regional basis, otherwise known as ‘uneven development’ as a result of the exploitation of minority groups within a wider society and leading to political and economic inequalities between regions within a state.” If we understand the meaning of internal colonialism, we will know the nature of struggle for it. Colonialism has different feature of oppression and subjugation that manifest on the ordinary people. Therefore, internally colonized “regions or social group” do not demand independence. They demand justice and fair representations. On Yassin: aside his misspoken “Muslim lands” the rest of his argument are facts in our country.

          Second, on your conclusion you have said: “ This discussion is almost moot when the entirety of Eritrea is degraded by Issayas ……..the discussion should strengthen a shared vision of Eritrea.”

          Actually the discussion is not moot and that is why it is coming on “off and on” frequently. The grievances of our social groups is real, and without understanding their grievances and addressing them appropriately, we can not have a shared vision. I don’t know how difficult to understand their concerns – the issue of fair representations.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ያሲን

    ህግደፍ ትግርኛ’ዩ
    ዓማጺ
    ጓዕጻጺ
    ተበላጺ

    ህግደፍ ፍጥረት ሰብ የብሉን
    ህግደፍ ዘመድ የብሉን
    ብጀካ ነብሱ ካልእ
    ሰብ ከምዘሎ ኣይኣምንን

    ስለምንታይሲ
    ህግደፍ ሓደ ሰብ ስለዝኾነ
    ኢሳያስ ዘይኣመነ
    ኣብ ስደት ኬዱ ለመነ
    ኢሉ ስለ ዝሓስብ

    ‘ዛኹላ ኣብ ገዛ ዓዋተ
    ጠራዕራዕ ትብል
    ከም ዝተገመተ
    ክትምክቶ ‘ይካኣለትን
    ስለምንታይ?
    ስለዝ ኣተዋ ሕማም-ብትን

    ረኣዮሞ ሕጂ
    ካብ ናትካ ዛዕባ ወጺኣ
    ናብ ደንጎሎ ሃቲፋ
    ለፍሊፋ
    ከም ቀደማ
    ብዘይ ፍረ ዓሪፋ
    ከም ማይ ባዳ ሃፊፋ
    በርኔንተ

    • Brhan

      መሃንድስ ምዕባለ
      ኣነስ ናብ ኡስታዝ ኣማኑኤል ሕድራት እንዳኸድኩ እግሪ መንገደይ ኣቶ ሆራይዘን…ዓይንኻ ትብራህ …ደንጎሎ በየን ኢያ ኢሉ ምስ ሓተትኒ…. ብኻ ኣይፈልጥን በልኩዎ… እዚ ኩሉ ጠራዕራዕ ኣይምተፈጠረን…ግን ከማኻ ወዲ ገርሂ ልባ ኮይነ ሓበርኩዎ….ወላሂ ዘይደግማ!

      • Haile S.

        ሰላም ብርሃን፡

        ሓደርካ
        ርእሰ-ወቐሳ ካበ’ምጻእካ
        ብወገነይ ክማቐል ከቃልለልለካ

        ኣነሲ ካብ ኣደራሽ ውጹ ‘ተበልኩ ዝሓገዝኩ’ዩ መሲሉኒ
        ጀበና ሰኽቲትካ፡ ካይትግንፍሊ ምባል ነይለመደኒ
        ናተይ ስራሕ እዛ ምንብድባድ እምበኣር ትትረፈኒ

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ብርሃን
        Sorry ኣልቢትሮ ዶ ኴነ ሓቀይ? My bad.

        • Brhan

          መርሓባ መሃንድስ – ምዕባለ
          ኣንታ ዓርከኒ ጽባሕ ዒድ ኮይኑ ንዕድጋ ሓሙስ ጠለ በጊዕ ሃሰስ ክብል
          ጽባሕ ምሳሕ ምሳይ ኢኻ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ብርሃን
            ድሮ ከብደይ ክንቁ ጀሚሩ።
            Eid Mubarak!

  • Dongolo

    Howdy all. 1) Every country in Africa has been colonized to include Ethiopia and Liberia. 2) Any country which has come under religious crusade has been colonized. 3) Most colonial powers have themselves been colonized. 4j Ethiopia has been a major colonialist over the past century. 5) illegal occupation can transform into colonialism. 6) Pizza Hut sucks.

    • Paulos

      Dongolo,

      Try Pizza-ባርኔጣ instead.

      • Abi

        Paul
        I guess he is expressing the “domino” effect.

  • Brhan

    Hello Yassin Hamid,
    Thank you for your article.

    As I read it, I see the problems, but also was hoping that you include your perspectives as solutions to the problems but couldn’t find. The grievances are valid but to solve them you also need to engage the victim to provide his or her view on solutions. You raised land, language, economy and power issues and there are many approaches to address those issues. This comment might not be enough to address the solutions to those issues.
    But let me try how I see the solutions to those issues:
    1) Acknowledgment Vs / Delay/ Deny
    To acknowledge that the grievances are real is the first step to solve the problem. I have participated in the activities of the opposition both political and civic and what I have recently observed is that many have embraced those grievances and have made them one of their agendas.
    I have met with a group of people who are raising the issue of Afars of Eritrea who expressed their gratitude to the solidarity they have formed with various political and civic groups.
    There are also who delay. They will be saying : this time the talk should be only about getting rid of the dictator and other national issues should be delayed until the formation of provincial government that works towards establishing an elected government and drafting a constitution that can address the subjects. Also, they fear such subjects will weaken the opposition in its struggle against the dictator.
    And of course, there are those who deny and it is not necessarily that they can be from pro government side. They can be against the regime or even neutral. By ignorance or arrogance, they can, deny there are no such things in Eritrea.

    2) People: All those issued that you have raised concern our people. Where are our people. Our people are outside of their country living as refugees and immigrants in Africa, the middle east and the West. 1960s. This is a very important decade. It is decade where our people were forced to leave Eritrea when the then Ethiopian brutal King H. Selassie turned their land to fire, killed mothers and children. Then it continued with the Derg who did the same and even more. Independence came but the current regime made it impossible to the UNHCR to enable the refugees in the Sudan return to Eritrea. The regime conceals this from any kind of discourse of its files and ranks and I can share with you this dialogue of my friend who went to Massawa and asked one of the gov’t officials there , who was his friend about the people of Massawa.
    “ኣበይ ኣለው?’
    “ እንድዒ” answered the official “ደርጊ ምስ ኣጥፈኦም ኣበይከ ክንብሎም ኢና”
    The regime who doesn’t want to raise a word about the refugees of the 60s, due to political reason. It sees these refugees as pro ELF and this goes contrary to its policy of one-party rule of the country.

    Add to the pain an injury, Eritreans, are leaving Eritrea more than ever during this dictatorial regime.
    The right to return and every topic arround it must be part of our discourse which can include great idea such as strengthening of our Eritrean identity among our children. They are growing up far from their beloved country Eritrea, and we have to enable them to preserve their language, culture and history. I have seen many groups who embraced this idea and examples are the Saho, Jeberti, Belin, Afar, Keren, community gatherings and the Eritrean churches that also provide Tigrinya language classes.
    3) The issues: I want to conclude my comment talking about the issues in brief
    a. Land: Equity, one rule to all. It is known that during the feudal king H. Selassie there were two rules. The legendary example the lands of Arbate Asmara. The people of Arbate Asmara were compensated when their land was taken by the municipality of Asmara. But in the lowlands this privilege was denied due to the King’s divide and rule. Favoring one from the other. Now the gov’t taking the land while its owners are refugees and immigrants mainly in the Sudan.
    b. Language : I agree with you that Tigrinya is a de-facto official language of Eritrea, but this doesn’t mean the issue is solved ( may be PF(DJ) sees like that in its ዋህዮ and ሕሹኽሹኽ character. This needs constitutional solution: with the issue of official languages let the people of Eritrea or their legal representative decide by vote and referendum. And with the issue teaching children with their mother tongue or not , let the linguists work implemented and of course, let Aba Are free.
    c. Power: Equity. The history of Education in Eritrea tells us that the majority of Eritreans who acquired modern education were those who went to either Protestant & Catholic missions. Due to this when the British tried to give power during British rule, they found the majority to be Christians. Then the King came with his ideology of favoring his religion and the trend continued with the people of highland having more privilege to schools, while the low land turned to be the stage of war of independence. Add to that the rhetoric of Nhnan Alaman and IA’s hidden agenda, the EPLF, attracted more educated Eritreans from the highland. During the first days of an independence , the regime found itself in uncomfrtable situation when estalishing its emabsies abraod where the members of the staff appeared to represent only one group. I remember, it was looking for any Eritrean from the lowland with BA in English language! to be reps abroad. No diplomacy related education, experience and skill were considered , only you have to know English!
    But thanks, Education has become a universal right and Eritreans got education in many countries. Again, this will take us back to #2 the right of return.
    D. Economy, I am not an expert, and better the expert speak, but speaking about the Eritrean economy now, I believe, it is PF(DJ) economy, and if you are from the high land but against the party , you are out of business. You can own a business as long as you are ምእዙዝ or مُطيع or OBIDENT to a degree you agree to give the ownership or your company to the gov’t and you become a servant in your own company.

    To be continued

    • Selamat Brhan,

      “D. Economy, I am not an expert, and better the expert speak, but speaking about the Eritrean economy now, I believe, it is PF(DJ) economy, and if you are from the high land but against the party , you are out of business. You can own a business as long as you are ምእዙዝ or مُطيع or OBIDENT to a degree you agree to give the ownership or your company to the gov’t and you become a servant in your own company.”

      I swear I was hearing violins melancholic sounds at I was reading your comment above. I though hard about your comment, then I concluded the comment is not part of the script. The script that this article appearing today as well as the article before this one criticizing the PM Abiy’s speech in Tigrigna. Shame on Awate.com. The script is saying, now that the Tigrigna are aligning with the TPLF, the TPLF will not sell the eight other Eritrean nationalities to the General Meffun Hagos and the Tigrigna. Well maybe we can start a betting pool because maybe. they will maybe they won’t.

      More importantly, could you please identify the business and current Eritrean economy that the obedient are benefiting from? And would you be willing to further categorize the obedient by social groups? In other words, I am in dire need of data and statistics or the current Eritrean economy if it does indeed exist?

      GitSAtSE

      • Brhan

        Merhaba Wedi Aboy Sium ( afraid of typo mistake to write your pen name)

        What I wrote about the economy is based on my encounter and conversation with many Eritrean business persons ( of different back ground) who now become refugees in the West. May be you took my statment out of context and what I was trying to say was in today’s Eritrea, a business person no matter of his or her background, can stay in his or her business as long as she or he is obedient to the regime. I said from high land as an example and to be brief, but , it can also include business persons form the low land. The business person is at the disposal of the regime. Any time can be kicked, including eliminated, from his or her business.

        You talked about awate.com and better the awate.com admin reply to you.

        Last but not least, you answered your question by your self. There is no data about the current Eritrean economy.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear GitSAtSE,

        I saw what you wrote me yesterday but I can’t seem to find it again. I will read again and get back to you. You gave me very hard homework.

        Berhe

        • MerHaba Berhe_Y AArkey,

          Yes I am glad you noticed it. I know you will deliver. We have had relatively two years and counting because the architects Amde and Saay7 utilized their skills and negotiated the Eritrean-Ethiopia Rapprochement. Imagine the Admiral Saay7 quietly returning to Asmara and quietly returning to safety because of his high caliber commands his deserved high respect.

          Hey man, if it is going to be war then to hell with it let it be war. Prior to the border war I witnessed the exact same madness I am seeing in the majority of the people. Fanning the fires of war and I am not afraid to point it out to every single one of them. It took me a very very log time to accept a just war. And so if we are at the last alternative and war can not be avoided. Heck we may embed ourself into the war this time around because if it is going to be war we must assure that the just prevail and justice is restored. There are some of us WILLING to be in it it arises. But we must leave no rock unturned to find the alternative and avert the war.

          When a forum such as this august Awate that we have rolled our sleeves long ago and built brick by brick, you are damn right we will come back and clean house and shut the warmongers. The imperative topic of discussion is the alternative to war, The win win solutions. The innovations and the the handing over the torch to the next young visionary leaders. My friend, some of us have been very high ivory towers strategizing and huddling in board rooms, at times in awe of the machine. A memo from the TPLF command distributed and it reaches the pages of Awate and we are to pretend we do not recognize the sender because we may have lost the sense of our smelling stench.

          I know I am preaching to the choir Berhe_Y AArkey, yes the imperative subject of the economy as is and your suggestions. It is your expertise and I know I will not be disappointed. You can also point me to resources of relevant literature, data and statistics. Thank you in advance.

          GitSAtSE

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Yassin,

    Thank you for the article that explain and differentiate of the various nature of colonialism and your attempt to characterize the PFDJ regime as “internal colonialism.” While I agree on the general thrust of your argument, I will say few words on one area of your argument where I disagree with you. And here it is, hoping you to engage in the debate.

    In your argument when you explain the manifestation of internal colonialism in Eritrea you have said :

    “ the regime/ruling group in Eritrea restricting the freedom of other sects through, undermining their traditions, trade, languages, religion, educational and political systems and constrained their development.” As I understood “other sects” refers to our minority “social groups” (I avoid ‘ethnic’ for obvious reasons). I agreed with that notion.

    But on the other hand, instead staying with this line of argument, you have veered out of it, and argued as follows;

    “Establishing a specific culture in a multicultural society such as imposing a specific language (Tigrinya) on a multilingual society, or granting religious privileges to a group in a multi-religious society, such empowering Christians on Muslim lands.”

    If you bring “ Christian land” and “muslim land” in your argument you are presenting the Eritrean politics as a conflict between Christians and Muslims. That is where I disagree in your argument. Most of the time, our brothers from the Islam faith always try to frame our politics on religion Basis Christian vs Muslim. I reject framing our politics on religious bases. I know there is a legitimate reason to it, and that is to fight against the “tyranny of the majority“. And therefore, the healthy alternative way of framing it, is to frame it “majority vs minorities“ based on the “identity politics” of our social groups, knowing that framing on religion it in itself will not address the grievances of the individual social groups. What do you thing? Pls have a say on this to argue against my argument.

    Regards

    • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

      “I will write an article how our minorities are pushed away from the politics and economy of our nation.”

      I think we can safely say we know what the politics of our nation is. It is one man rule without any consideration for all of Eritrean’s necessities whatsoever. And the political oppositions to this one man rule are all in exile near and far.

      So we know all Eritrean oppositions are outside of Eritrea. Everyone is pushed out including, the Tigrigna social group. And in the Eritrean opposition outside of Eritrea, all Eritrean social groups have made room to be active in Eritrean politics. I am presuming all Eritrean social groups in the Eritrean opposition do have representation. Then, since there is only room for one and only one man to control and do all the politicking inside of Eritrea, all Eritrean social groups engage in Eritrean politics outside of Eritrea, therefor all of Eritrean politics exists only outside of Eritrea and all Eritrean social groups are not pushed out from the politics of the nation.

      Your statement above and the numerous comments here are not well though out. Statements such as what you are hoping to right are based on a fall premise. Allow me to belabor my point further by doing several permutations with the words so that you and others can really give thought to statements before saying it. Okay, inside Eritrea there is no room for anybody but for a single man. There is no politics inside Eritrea….. you all get the point.
      So, let me tell you what you are really saying and I can with precision tell you where the source of this missile projectile is from. General Mesfun Hagos, Tesfay, Degiga, Negash Osman..i.e Eritrean political leaders are utilizing the General from Karneshim to make stronger alliance with the TPLF in order to get rid of the one man who gives no room for any social group to do politics in Eritrea. Cutting the in between …what you are really trying to say Ayya Amanuel Hidrat is that the current mobilization of Eritreans to accept the TPLF alliance for all social groups to have play a role in politics inside Eritrea.
      So, this article by Yassin, your statement and the numerous very stale commentary is straight from the TPLF. Utilize the General Mesfun Hagos for the Tigrigna social group to get on board and now the article and un stimulating stale commentaries is supposed to convey the message that the TPLF will not sell out the other Eritrean social groups to the Tigrigna.

      All of you guys are within the same box and are completely unaware of how very stupid your stale arguments are. Have some respect for some one who is outside of the box and is trying to redirect your focus and abilities towards real progress of the Eritrean and Ethiopian body politic. See the logical fallacy of your statement regarding the politics of the notation and admit that it is wrong and absolutely nonsensical. And do not think for a moment that I would not travel and confer with the TPLF myself to achieve the dire change in Eritrean politics. I have no problem with the TPLF and the people of Tigray.
      What I really want to pick your brain Ayya Amanuel Hidrat is the second of your equation. It is time you put up on the one and only thing you support most. It is the economic development of Ethiopia engineered by the late PM Meles Zenawi. So talk ECONOMY now.

      What is the economy of our Eritrea at present. Is there an Eritrean economy that any one is benefitting from inside Eritrea? Please identify the economic opportunities inside Eritrea. Every sector. Who are benefitting from the Eritrean economy? Is it one single individual, a few greedy generals, one social group etc… ? If there is an Eritrean economy to speak of at present how are “social groups” being pushed out from the “economy of the nation”?
      And finally Ayya Amanuel Hidrat, I beg you to educate me, how you would fix the Eritrean economy so that no social group is left out? How would you create a strong integrated Eritrean economy of all the social groups? What sectors of the Eritrean economy would you put your focus on first? Do you invasion a strong Eritrean and Ethiopian integration? In what areas and sectors of the economy do you see believe the Eritreans and Ethiopians should commence their mutually beneficial integration of their economies?
      In other words Ayya Amanuel Hidrat, what would PM Meles Zenawi do to include Eritreans of all social groups benefit from the great Ethiopian development achievements and what would be Ethiopian rewards, dividends or mutual benefit from the State of Eritrea?

      I believe there is no economy in Eritrea and all Eritreans are pushed out of Eritrean economy. All Eritreans are participating in the economies of foreign land. All Eritrean social groups do their economies out side Eritrea. The Eritrean economy is outside of Eritrea. Therefore no Eritrean social group is pushed out of the Eritrean economy that resides outside of Eritrea. So, again do you see how stupid the article, your statement and the other stale commentaries are. Same as above with the politics, this is a concerted effort a push to accept the TPLF which I am willing to consider and give great thought too.
      I think the great fear mongering of the Tigreans or the TPLF will swallow is very silly. What are they going to swallow? So, maybe I do not mind greater alliance with the TPLF now and I could present, straight to the point and without beating around the bush convincing arguments to all Eritrean social groups that lets put our money on the TPLF? But what is it exactly the TPLF is planning in the near and far future? Sill articles like the above, shame on Awate.com, and stupid statements such as yours above and the same old stale commentaries will not bring the dire change inside Eritrea.
      I keep telling you that I see it all because I have been all my life outside of the box. I have never taken sides because there are no sides. So let me help you wake up from your decades long zombism starting from this website and all the pundits. But first you will have to do something for me. Ayya Amanuel Hidrat convince me that there will be an economy inside Eritrea for all Eritrean social groups to partake in equitably as it is your stated preference above. What will the Eritrean economy look like and the interdependence of Eritrea’s and Ethiopias? Convince me of the economy in future Eritrea will exist by showing it to me now.

      Other wise, need I repeat how stupid your statement above is.

      All of the articles and the efforts by the usual suspects could be summarized with one sentence. The TPLF will not sell out the non Tigrigna Eritrean Social Group.

      So with all do respect Ayya Amanuel Hidrat, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

      If you must know my leanings at the moment, I do lean in favor of the TPLF to help solve our problem in Eritrea but I believe PM Abiy is best suited to solve Ethiopian problems and clean up the mess that the TPLF created. TPLF is the problem in Ethiopia. And therefore TPLF could be the source of all chaos on the verge of exploding in the region. What good is all the development gained under PM Meles if you loose it all and then some without savoring a single pulp of the fruit?

      As for the Weyane weyane dongolotatatttt aaahhhhhhhh shuuuuuuttttt uuuupppp! You absolutely not an iota of the great idea that is Eritrea. I know Eritrea because I am a very high authority in Eritrea. You just don’t know it yet. That includes you Nitricc.

      GitSAtSE

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Solomon,

        First, the attitude “put up or shut up” is not an engaging attitude. So I will leave it as is.

        Second, there is no way, you, to know the topic of the subject, it’s content, and how I will tackle my forthcoming article, that I am promising to write. It is not close to even predict about it. It has nothing to do with the alliance you are talking about. Don’t try to argue by assumptions before you see the content of it. Patience, brother.

        • Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

          You know I can see the huddle before all the players lined up to pass the ball to one another. Your logic is simply wrong. Admit it. And If you do not address the questions I put forth to you then there is absolutely nothing I can gain from you knowledge. I repeat, your statement in it is entirety is nonsensical and stupid. I gave you the logic and rational behind it. Prove me wrong and if my rational and logic is wrong, I will thank you for correcting me. Then have the humidity to be lead and fall in line and learn how it is that those who follow you want to be lead by you. I made a request of you my leader informing you how it is I want to be lead. Disembark from that band wagon blaring out the same commercial from mega phones, and address the sound academic questions that I asked you because I truly want to gain from your knowledge. So go back and reread my post and come back with the relevance and substance for a change.

          Otherwise, WITH ALL DO RESPECT!!! shut up.

          You know not Eritrea and the all Eritrean nationalities better than yours truly.
          Tell me what and how would Meles do or suggest to Eritreans regarding the economy. Speak about the economy now and stop planning for a TPLF initiated imminent war. Stop insulting the intelligence of those of us who are paying attention. No wonder Eritrea’s youth are in disarray.
          Is a 72 year old general really going to be in command of the march from Mekele to Asmara?

          If you do not have substance when you speak, you do not have to shut up, yes you are right. Earplugs will certainly do the trick.

          Now, would you come to your senses and feed me information about the economy of Eritrea now and in the near and future. This is the time to be like Meles Zenawi the visionary. The conversation that is imperative right now is economic development which has been your greatest boast. Stop the obsession of aligning your self with the TPLF defense forces war strategies. And I am willing to bet that this article by Yasin is a command from the top.

          Have you ever known an Eritrean from Hilet Sudan, Tesseney. What social groupings are you talking about man??? We were all one and fit in one singe hut in perfect harmony while all hell was going on out side of our hut. What moron is going to tell me what Eritrean looks like. Etched in my memory permanently in spite the very long time I have been separated from its beauty. Hey Plato sir, there is no need for your formulations and fractional rations and distributions. Where you think is the half point is not necessarily the half point. No Ayya Amanuel Hidrat, you are now the champion shining knight with sword and armor of the “social groups” in Eritrea.

          You champion the economic development of the late PM Meles Zenawi leader of the TPLF and EPRDF. It is the economy ands his development that impresses you so here is your chance to prescribe the economic developments for Eritrean’s benefit. Unless your prescription is to delegate the control of Eritrean economics to the TPLF and you may be surprised that Eritreans may like the idea. As long as you are truthful, you will find success.

          So again help me with the economics of Eritrea and the region because I need your help. Otherwise you can talk untie the cows come home…. the earplugs will do.

          The Economy please. I have to go to some black market money handler in about an hour to send may periodic 36,000 Bir to my rapidly growing Eritrean family in Ethiopia. I drove from Bay Area to Buffalo so that I can safe $2000 per month and live as I use too when I was 18 years old in student housing $300 per month so that I do not neglect my family that I have never laid eyes on in person. So, you see asking for your help for the long term solution to relieve the Eritrean youth struggle is REALITY for me. From six figures and comfortable white collar executive hight towers to sleeping in a sleeping bag in the streets of Berkeley and then picking my self up by the boots straps to climb back up again. I didn’t beg for money from a single Eritrean, didn’t even think to call you Ayya Amanuel, or tSegaai or Gebrehiwet…. I cleared what was weighing me down and I understood how vital I am to the survival of family. Do you know how it feels when a dozen of your kin call you from foreign lands needing your help?
          Address the economy so that I can help my family better.

          Yes, speak substance for a change….. other wise the ear plug will do.

          GitSAtSE

    • Brhan

      Hello Ustaz Amanuel,
      I do not know if you agree with me but I found the writer to be politcally correct.
      Eritrea is a diverse country. I for example, use the term High land and low land ከበሳ/መታሕት and rarely Christian/Muslim but there is no intention to offend anyone. You term minority can imply the opposite term majority which can be also problematic. I believe it is new and you can prove me wrong if it was present in the ELF/EPLF discourse.
      But this does not mean that I am saying the term can’t be one of the approaches to address the issue grivances of our people. As you know in our political journey, it, i.e the grivance has been raised by a group of people, and example is Eritrean Lowland Legue or by individual group such as the Afar, Jeberti, Kunama
      Thank you.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Brhan,

        You asked: “who decides and how who the majority and who the minority are?” No body. But there is an answer to it. The “marker and identifier” of majority and minorities of Eritrean social groups is their population. The rest of your argument, take it as our differences.

        • Brhan

          Thanks Ustaz,
          I am looking forward to your upcoming article and hope it well shed more light on the subject.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Amanuel,

          I too feel the term minority is not appropriate to use in Eritrean context. The reason being, how can one become minority if he lives in his own land. For example, should the Kumana be minority in their own land. The same can be said about afar and the other ethnic groups.

          I personally think the division will of Eritrea based on the 8 Abraja is the better solution where it divide the Tigrinya and Tigre to smaller distinct groups and it help balance the power.

          Again looking at the example of what happened in Ethiopia where the Oromo and Amhara where divided into smaller provinces, it could have saved the currency issue they have today.

          I am still puzzled why that arrangement didn’t work for them and decided to change to language based division.

          Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            The issue of minorities and majority in multicultural society, be it in your country or an immigrant in other countries, it does exist. In sociology, a “minority group refers“ to a category of people who experience relative disadvantage as compared to members of a dominant social group. You could go and read it in sociology books. It is not my concept. You might be surprised if I tell you, that there is “Ministry of Minority Affairs” in the Government of India which is carved out of Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment to ensure the rights of minorities. It is to that extent that the issue is important and recognized in the lives of multicultural society. Berhe, you need to read before you delve to debate to a complex issue of multicultural society. To say there are no minorities in Eritrea is simply a denial to the realities. What does minority means by the way? Can you define it.

            Regards

          • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

            First in the tradition of our culture, Abbi Ikha nisikha ‘mo yQre beleley ane yniEs. My apology for the use of the language, though I would like to say your mind is a lot younger than mine and I hoped you would look over the silly words.
            In any case as this is a very necessary topic which you have explored more than most I too look forward to your upcoming article and that it contains real solutions with due consideration of how to navigate through the current difficulties of the region.

            My concern is that what you will prescribe for the equitable distribution of resources and access to opportunities for all Eritreans maybe the same formula as PM Meles’ for EPRDF’s Ethiopia. Berhe_y is raising the same issue above. Has PM Meles’ economic development plan based on ethnic federalism benefited all Ethiopians equally or has it benefit some more than others?

            Afar 5%, Bilen 2%, Hidareb 2.5%, Kunama 2%, Nara 1.5%, Rashaida 2.4%, Saho 5%, Tigre 31%, & Tigrinya 50%

            The above is the breakdown you can adjust with population growth as population decrease due to flight in the bast two decades.

            “The country is endowed with various types of resources such as gold, copper, potash, silver, marble, oil and natural gas (MLWE, 2001, p. 18). The gold mining, which began in 2011, is viewed by the national government and other international observers as the country’s chief international resource which is expected to contribute significantly to Eritrea’s economy (The Japan Times, 2009). Eritrea’s industries are mainly small to medium scale manufacturing enterprises that consist of food processing, beverages, tobacco, clothing and textiles, light manufacturing, wood, printing, salt, and cement (MLWE, 2001; The Japan Times, 2009). According to AfDB, Eritrea showed a decline in real GDP growth from 3.8 percent in 2016, to 3.4 percent, in 2017 (AfDB, 2018). The data also indicated that agriculture made 17.2 percent of the country’s GDP”

            The meager resources both the majority and minority seek to utilize.

            “In addition, there is disparity in the geographical distribution of schools. For instance, the number of secondary schools and students in the highlands is much higher than those in the lowland areas of Eritrea (Hailemariam, 2010; Rena, 2005). Almost all project and policy documents in the country do illustrate that there have been wide disparities and inequalities in access to schooling and to quality education in Eritrea. The disparities and inequalities seemed to exist in terms of location, gender, and socio-economic status. For instance, the participation of females has been low and the repetition and dropout rates as the major challenges of concern to the government and to parents.”

            The above excerpts are from a paper titled:
            Eritrea Education System – A Critical Analysis and Future Research Directions
            Authored by Tedros Sium Mengesha, University of Honkong
            & Mussie T Tessema, Winona State University, Winona, MN

            I will give this document and others I am compiling soon. I only printed it because the first line of the paper starts with the percentage breakdowns of the Eritrean Nationalities. It is indicative that the Eritrean nationalities are indeed top priority concern. Furthermore the paper clearly states the existence of disparities in the distribution of education in Eritrea.
            There is a significant lack of information, data, research and studies in Eritrea. And in my opinion it is due to the very weak departments of education and information. MoE and MoI. In the age of data whee data is king and developments across the globe are growing exponentially because of data mining, starving the Eritrean people by not producing data and making it readily available to the population to innovate solutions is the failure of the above ministries I mentioned which are part of the Eritrean dictatorship regime’s abysmal failure as a whole.
            Not seeking real data or demanding it from their government is also a failure of the Eritrean citizens as a whole.

            In any case I am curious to see of how Ayya Amanuel Hidrat’s article will break down who is the minority and who is the majority. Are the Tigrait social group to be considered a majority with access and opportunities as much as the Tigrigna for example? Or is lack of access to opportunity is due to geographical locations of the population? More importantly what will be the recommended solutions to the ailments of the “social groups”

            Look forward to your article. I am sure it will be enlightening. And in retrospect any time is an excellent time to raise real Eritrean issues such as this. However the sincerity and genuine concerns by those who raise it will be questioned and evident by the quality of the presentation. Again the current events of General Mesfun Hagos visit to Tigrai could very well have been the catalyst to raising the subject at this very moment. And I will repeat I am certain of it and I do stand by all my previous statements minus the “stupid.” I was stupid and wrong.

            GitSAtSE

          • Brhan

            Hello Prof. Amanuel,
            Before reading Berhe’s input, I thought about your opinion with regard to the terms minority and majority. And in the above comment you mentioned two important things 1) comparative approach where the example was India 2) which is more important that your upcoming article, as I understand it, will follow the scientific approach. Previously, I raised the issue of our own experience, i.e. if there is a literature that covers the subject whether it is ELF/ or EPLF. Now even I am adding , the colonial period of Italy and British Administration . The point is that the scientific approach will include a paragraph/s about any previous literature with regard to the subject. It will either say there is or not.
            Also, you might be aware that now certain divisive groups in the social media are using the same terms in their analysis of our society and this to sell their agenda. I do not know if you will consider this in the paragraph/s to discredit their saying.
            Good luck with your writng.

            Thank you

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amanuel,

            I had to think a bit before I would reply to your question. But it looks like Haben come to my rescue and give it a proper definition from sociology point of view.

            What I am trying to get at is, with the current PFDJ government in power, we have a lot more problems to deal with that’s created and caused by the system.

            If we are trying to remove the regime and replace it with another just and democratic system, what is really the benefit of addressing social grievances that’s created by the regime.

            Now going back to your question, I don’t think it’s appropriate to call someone who is not of the same tribe as me (me being tigrina) a minority and call my self (my ethnic group as majority).

            In other words, I don’t think the issue is relevant at this point until we have a representative government and publicly elected governments.

            I don’t agree that we should talk about it, discuss it and frame our relationship that will benefit all of us.

            I don’t find it comfortable to call another Eritrean from another tribe a “minority” where as far I know, there is nothing that would make him one.

            Personally I don’t even accept the term and it’s use in the west.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            If you are from the Tigrigna speaking social group, you could not be from the minority social group. You are from the majority group that is governing modern Eritrea. Because you have a grievance as citizen of that group, does not make you from the minority groups. We should have a clear understanding on the the status of our social groups and the power distribution in the state of Eritrea. Have you ever discussed with Afars, saho, Bilen, mineamir, Kunama…etc to understand their grievances?

            I quote: “ If we are trying to remove the regime and replace it with another just and democratic system, what is really the benefit of addressing social grievances that’s created by the regime.”

            How sure you are to convince them that we will have a democratic system, where democratic system in itself can be seen from different perspectives? Platitudinal approach from us “the Christian highlanders” is not a convincing approach to them so far, unless you try to spill them out how exactly will get their representations in the “Power politics” of the nation. Assume Amanuel is from any of the other social group. Try to convince me how my social group will get fair representations? We will have democratic system is not an answer to my concern. In my book fair election only, however you set it, is not the expression of democratic system. In modern politics of multicultural society, democratic system entails about fair representations in the politics and economic of the nation. So Berhe unless you come with the specific of your democratic system, it is not enough to tell a democratic system will address their grievance. In the eye of the majority social group, simple election is “democratic” even if the minorities did not get their fair representations. So the minorities know very well the desire of the dominant social group in Eritrea – and surely isn’t fair sharing. I think you are still with your understanding which says that there are no minority and majority if they live in their country. That shows you don’t have a good grip on the concept it’s meaning, how and where it manifest.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amanuel,

            What I am worried is, what you think you are doing to benefit the “minority” you will end up creating an ethnic division.

            I know the most majority of Eritreans from the other non Tigrinya tribe commitment is to see fair and equal Eritrea.

            They do not need charity from “majority” Tigrinya to correct mistakes that we create / regime created.

            I am on their side fighting the regime and they do not need to take my words for it. We will remove the regime and we want to build a peaceful and equal Eritrea. That’s all really that I can say right now.

            I suppose telling them “you will have this, you should get this many seat or job in the government” suppose to make him feel better.

            I am Tigrinya, and I want an Eritrea where I do not need to support another Tigrinya leader because he is Tigrinya or Orthodox Christian.

            For example, If you run against Mohamed Saleh I will vote for Mohamed Saleh because of what he stands for and what he believes. You are my cousin and you are from my village and we are related, and I like you and I hope to meet you one day. But what we want for the future Eritrea is not the same. And I don’t want to support you because I am afraid of “others”.

            And I am affair your idea is creating “others”.

            Let me ask you a blunt question.

            Do you want to create an ethnic based divisions in Eritrea similar to what EPRDF did in Ethiopia?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            You don’t have any clue about multicultural constitutionalism, so you can not debate with knowledge on the issue I am talking. Second, you don’t read my articles to understand what I am talking and what kind of governance I advocate for. Otherwise, you don’t ask such silly question, I have answered several times. Next time do not try to debate with me without understanding my writing which are accessible in this wonderful website. Give me a favor and go to tebeges file and do your home work to understand the nature of governance I argue for, then you will know how to deal to debate with me. Amanuel has never advocate for ethnio-linguistic federalism to the Eritrean realities. Advocating for equitable power sharing does not demand necessarily ethno-linguistic federalism, if you care to know about it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Most of my adult life I lived among the most multicultural society in the world. I have friends, very close, from almost all part of the world. My adapted country is a model of peace, equality and respect. Even the most advanced societies have in the world such as Germany, come here to study the multicultural society and how they can adapt to their own.

            Living among Eritreans, who share so much is the least of my problems. What can I possibly be worried and afraid about. Absolutely nothing.

            The issue of IA and PFDJ, is an issue of justice and abuse of power. It’s not to benefit this society or that religion, but pure evil who wants power and inflict all possible ways and means to stay in power. Are more people of my kind supporting and the tools of the regime, YES. Are they doing it on my behalf, absolutely No.

            I admit I am lazy, this social science stuff is too complicated for me. I like simple practical issues to tackle. I remember reading your article where you refer some Swedish professor as a source and the debate you had with saay. I did ask you, a very simple question and wanting to understand base an example. I asked you if I recall, is there any country in the world today that is governed as such. I don’t think I remember giving the example, but you confused me even more. If this is wrong, it was a while and I may have gotten it wrong.

            I don’t think there will be any value to go back and read and confuse even more. But I withdrew like to ask you again, if you know of such country is governed as such and I can understand the model you advocate for. Mine is simple, the British style parliamentary constitution.

            One thing I find the social scientist (the African kind) we don’t have to use western style and copy but instead we need to create our own. But I think this is a trick to control the power to their own.

            A very good example is, Isayas Afeworki constitution and Melles Zenawi constitutions. They both are written to serve their party well and not the people. In case of Isayas, for PFDJ to control power for ever. In case if EPRDF, TPLF to control power for ever. It worked fir both (well for Isayas was not good enough, because it said 2 terms), and he forgot all of it.

            I don’t know why when it cones to politics, justice and rule of law, why the time tested experience is not good enough? Imagine if sine one us to design a car, an airplane, a building, a bridge, a doctor doing operation, says forget everything that humanity build over the years and someone one wants to just create their own. It will be insane to do so. Even in our little corner, we have developed laws that governed us for centuries, that we never bother even to use as a basis but instead we have to go invent.

            Anyway, I will leave it here for now and take a break for a while. It’s better to just read and learn sometimes.

            Berhe

          • Haben

            Selam Berhe,
            As a student of Sociology, I believe I can help to clarify on the minority vs majority concepts when addressing socio-economic and political situation of a particular country. The term minority is used to describe a social group based on numeric values, social, economic, and political power a certain social groups/ ethnic groups own. If we take the numeric value, all the ethnic groups except Tigrinea and Tigre will be classified as minority for the fact that they represent a small percentage of the general population. Coincidentally, these social groups are disproportionately underrepresented at the helm of political, economic, social powers. However, sometimes the minority group, the numeric values, can have a significant economic and political power at the center. In this case they will be referred as majority with regard to political and economic power. A good example of this is minority vs majority complex is in our next door, Ethiopia. Despite the fact TPLF or Tigray region being the 5% of the population are considered a minority, for the last three decade they had the upper hand in the political and economic powers of Ethiopia; and are thus can be considered a majority in the economic and political spheres of Ethiopia. Hope this helps!

          • David Samson

            Selam Haben,
            Good analysis, but you forget to qualify words with “Perceived” and “Allegdely” benefited.

          • Haben

            The term minority vs majority are used to analyse the distribution of social, economic, and political power in any given society. The general consensus is that minority social groups are at great disadvantage when it comes to social, economic, and political powers. And hence, they are the least group to benefit from what ever economic and social prosperity existed in the country. The majority, on the other hand, have been perceived to have the lion share of the resources and power. However as I explained in my comment to Berhe, it’s not always the case.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haben,

            The majority are not the “perceived” rather they always have the lion share, by marginalizing the minorities – that often elicit and becomes the source of social strife.

          • Haben

            Hi AH,
            I beg to differ on your assertion that the majority always share the lion share of resources. Let’s look south to our border. The Oromos’ are the majority in terms of size but they have been marginalized and discriminated by other social groups. However, in most cases, minority group are the one who suffers many of social ills.

          • Brhan

            Hello Haben
            Thank you for your input. I have also read there is a term “the majoirty minority” ….to mean big in size but less in power… and this fits I believe, the Oromo case and black south africans during the apartheid regime.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haben,

            I could agree on your explanation on the subject at hand. How ever, if the definition minority in itself include the “numeric value,” a minority can not be called a majority because of holding the power of the state. It is still the minority. Think about it.

          • Haben

            Hi AH,
            I remember we had a heated discussion with our instructor in class about this issue. Almost all of the class argued that regardless of political and economic power a minorty group holds, they will always be a minority. If we are strictly speaking in terms of population size, the minority can not become a majority. However, when the minority group are at the driving seat of the state apparatus and benefited from it, it would be misleading to use the term minority group. As that indicate they were disfranchised group.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haben,

            Minorities are minorities whether they are disfranchised or not. The “relative numeric value” is the marker of majority and minority irrespective the power they hold. It is rather misleading to call majority to the minority when they are at the driving seat,

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Haben,
            Just curious here, isn’t that word [elite] comes in times like this?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haben,

            Thank you for coming to my rescue. Your explanation makes a lot of sense. Since you are sociology student, I want to hear your opinion how the future political make up of Eritrea should look like. A political make that will give us equatable representation, equatable share of resources, where we can have a peaceful, respectful and live in peace and harmony.

            I will write what I think and I would really like to hear what you think. But first I want to let you know, I have never had social studies other than some political issue which are current in the world, so you I hope you don’t mind my novice approach. Most of my thinking is based on my experience of the country that I live. I may have been biased, but I am of the opinion, we should cop shamelessly for what benefit us.

            Let me give you an example though, a country that I live Canada. There are 4 or 5 main political parties in Canada today. And political division as of last election looks like this.

            Conservatives: 34.4%
            Liberal: 33%
            NDP: 16%
            Quebecois (French Separatist) : 8%
            Green: 6%
            Independent: 0.5%

            There is no English, french (with exception of Quebec), Italian, Chinese, Christian, black, Hispanic, aboriginal vote, this vote that but Canadian people vote. Off course there breakdown if one is interested but it doesn’t determine anything. It’s totally ok for people living in the same house hold to vote separately based on issue and political program they live and believed in, it’s mostly based on people interests, some are for less tax, others are for the environment, others are for race and other equality, others are for social justice, etc.

            For all the time I have been, it’s usually the Conservatives / Liberals who win election and form a government but the third party (NDP) play a major role in shaping the country social values. Currently the leader of the NDP is an Indian Canadian, turban wearing sikh named Jagmeet Singh. He could be the next PM.

            I am sure the 16% – 20 %of the population that vote for him or his party are not Indians or minority but people who are with the party political program.

            I understand there is education, wealth, political maturity of the population but honestly it’s the system of government that lead the people to the direction. In other words, the problem of race, ethenicity etc that we tend to see in Africa is a result of the political elites who do NOT wish or do NOT want to solve the problem in a principled way.

            What does prevent us, in Eritrea or Ethiopia for that matter to reach this level of political maturity where the race, ethnicity religion of a person is totally irrelevant in most cases and people just vote based on ideology and interests.

            At the end of the day, weather a person is of the same origin, race or ethnicity, he or she will not write you a cheque even if that person comes to power . Like I said, the country should strive to achieve equitably, and equal access to wealth, education, political power etc…as a principled goal.

            With that said, here is what I think, if we are to model our country (Eritrea as such).

            First some of the most fundamental rights of every citizen:
            – Freedom of movement for any citizen any where in the country
            – Freedom of residence for any citizen any where in the country
            – Freedom of employment for any citizen any where in the country
            – Freedom of running for public office / for any citizen any where in the country.

            Off course we have other fundamental rights, such as freedom of warship, religion, language, education etc…

            I personally favor the former 8 awraja or electoral district divided based on the population. The people get to vote directly the candidate of their choice, which is in line.

            May be another time I will bring up the difference / issue that I have with the suppose to be ratified constitution and the potential for a real conflict.

            Berhe

          • Haben

            Hi BY,
            Glad I am able to help. One think, you mentioned to Ema that you can be a minority even if you are the majority group. That is not possible. If you are from a majority group, are still considered a majority, regardless of your status in the society. As to the other question you asked me, I can say that we can not simple copy the Western system and assume all will be right. First we need to address the pressing issues of all social groups especially the minority. I will come with more on this.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Aman,

      Framing our intercommunal political discourse in Christian-Moslem divide is recipe for enduring conflict without resolution which will erode the fabrics that tie the diverse component inside the frontiers of Eritrea’s statehood. The faiths when utilized from their benign perspectives, as our founding fathers wisely did, they become factor of good and source of harmony. I think, generally that is, a great many among the elites (hopefully Yassin included) agree that bigotry and fanaticism are antithesis of discord and resultant dispersion.

      However, at the same time there should be unfailing awareness that some in our midst think that the divisive policies the regime (actually one despot) has been implementing have achieved gains for our Christian and most highlands inhabiting segment of our society. Disowning the regime and all the destructive measures the despot has been taking can take as a long way of undoing the damage done to our people. The elites do have grave responsibility and should not deluded by short term future less elusive advantages that may stay only as long as the despot and his regime stay.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Ismailo,

        I agree with you completely. I will try to explain on my upcoming article, the specific nature of the PFDJ “power politics” and its consequence on our minorities, though it might take me time with my situation.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

          I look forward to reading your upcoming article.
          I know it is absolutely not my place to say it but I will.

          Is it possible for you to reach out to your friend Mahmud Saleh and collaborate on this particular article and come out with a joint product. It might take a lot of coffee meetings and friendship testing discussions to distill the article.
          I think what Ismail AA wrote and you responded to as agreeing completely requires input from the likes of Mahmud to give it texture and substance to address it on all side.

          My uncultured take from the discussion so far is, perhaps that is precisely the reason the regime and particularly PIA gains from the apparent advantage the highlanders (Christians) presumed to have achieved. Question of why the highlanders are the ones running out of the country has to be addressed.
          The frame is as important as the picture.

          Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            I doubt he will agree, but I will share with him.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            Thank you. (In jest) Make sure you don’t ask him to …put up or shut up.
            I think over 10 years ago I asked saay to write an article with Yosef Gebrehiot. I still regret they didn’t do it.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            If I don’t like it to be said for me, how could I say it to others? No. It is impossible, Kim. I learned it from the Bible when I was young kid. Don’t do to others if you don’t want others to do for you.

  • sara

    selam all,
    i am not impressed by the article, this type off issue has been discussed here several times
    and there was no definitive agreement except it pulled those fringes (Resi Aqats) to the forum to vent their poisonous ethinic politics.
    what is different with this articles is he gave it a new tag that is not available in our vocabulary.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Sis Sara,

      It has been and still it is. We have to deal with it, to come up with a reasonable solution to our Eritrean politics. The fear to deal with it, will always keep us on two opposite ends with no bridge to our thoughts. Think about it.

      Regard

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Sara,

      Based on the reaction of this article, I think it’s safe to say that a of people do not agree with the author. I do not say there isn’t truth to is, but classifying as internal colonization clearly creates a distinictive ethenic division that will be hard to contain.

      Yesterday I was listening interview of I think Woldeyesus Amar and Andebrhan. He said when the TPLF organized the Eritrean youth opposition in Ethiopia, Bereket Simon said to them, you should create federal system in Eritrea based on ethnic division similar to that in Ethiopia.

      We know how poisons that has turned out for Ethiopia and I am not surprised some people in the name of defending the rights of others want to create such time bomb for us.

      Honestly I am so glad the Eritrean people has rejected that temptation before and continue to do today. This ethnic federalism is a failed experiment and one thing I agree with PM Abiy is the attempt he is making to destroy it.

      Today there is no country on earth that practice this type of federal government in the world. The two countries that existed with such arrangements were the former Soviet Union and former Yugoslavia. Both have been divided into their ethnic pieces, as per Amb. Andebrhan.

      And if Ethiopia continue in this road, for that faith will wait it some where down the road. And they advice Eritrea to implement the same, because it will also happen to Eritrea (divided and broken).

      Berhe

      • Brhan

        Hello Berhe Y,
        Thank you for your comment:
        Currently the discourse in Ethiopia also includeds if Abiy’s attempt will destroy Ethiopia or not. It is not a fair comparison.

      • sara

        brother berhe,
        you have been in this forum for a long time and i am sure you remember such articles were discussed that left its ugly mark in this forum.
        as you know i currently stay in the neighborhood…. and i meet many eritreans who come through ethiopia to sudan, and what i noticed is most come with a new way of identifying themselves than what we know them before when we were at home in eritrea. all this i think definitely start as you have stated once they cross the border to ethiopia,
        one young girl sister of my friend when in asmara came to us and her sister wrote to me to take care of her. do you know when i told her she can stay with me, as her sister wants — she said thank you i am with deqi adey etc…..imagine.. back in asmera… i was close to here through her sister and i still feel she was like my sister… but with what went with here when she passed through ethiopia.. she has new relations that goes with deqi adey, than by here eritreaness.

        • Hashela

          Selam Sara

          This is a sad experience and substantiates the concern many have. While reports from and incidents in Israel indicate that this concerning trend is not unique to people migrating through Ethiopia/Tigray, a significant roll of TPLF in instilling and amplifying this divisive trend is more than likely. Let alone Eritreans in refugee camps in Tigray, TPLF media are doing everything to provide global platforms to elements who sow ethic and religious based division. After all ethnic and religious based division a main export product of TPLF.

        • Desbele

          Selam Sara,
          I have a completely different example from my own sister.My sister crossed to Tigray from Eritrea in 2009. Ethiopian soldiers transport and drop them at Mai Ayni refugee camp. She still remembers in disbelief what had happened next. Eritreans who already had lived in the camp started to shout their respective cities to host the new comers. Senafe , Senafe…would shout one and those new arrivals from that area would go there. Adi quala , Adi Quala…and so on. My sister is Amiche. She was left with few others like her as others join their respective ‘DEQI ADI’ to host them. I would take this as natural especially for those who grew up in rural villages. They expect and get the support they need at that dire time of need from their ‘Deqi Adi’ . This doesnt happen because they were in ethnic federal ethiopia.
          Your claim that the youth started to identify with ‘DEQI ADI’ after passing through Federal Ethiopia is just overblown.

          • sara

            selam desbele,
            very quick comment to make before i head to the bus station ,…back home for the holidays////
            if you want to learn the truth…in particular for this issues…visit Eritreans in Kassala vs.. adigrat,shrei, etc.
            thank you

          • David Samson

            Selam Desbele,

            You are spot on!

            Long before TPLF came to prominence, Millions of Eritreans had crossed to Sudan. I know not only family members, but close friends too. It was very common to find ones’ wedi Adi as soon as they entered to Sudan. All those who born and brought in the cities were perplexed and bewildered as some of them did not even know their Adi.

            The question rather should be why? Unless we going to pretend, we are Clan and sub-clan-based societies. Some of us have thought to have shaved it, but only to resurface it albeit with grey hair.

        • Haben

          Selam Sara,
          For the purpose of discussion and full disclosure I belong to the young generation who had to make the tough decision to leave Eritrea and fled to Sudan. Your observation is not far away from the truth. The pattern seemed that the further we moved away from the center (Eritrea), the more likely people coalesced around village, and awuraja except those who came from big cities. At first, it make sense. With limited resource at the refugee camp and merciless process of smuggling, you need to be closer to someone you can trust and look out for each other. The concept of being an Eritrean began to diminish and the poisonous agenda of mistrust among social groups started to plant it’s seeds. By the time we get to the west, we have separate church’s for each awuraja.

      • Kaddis

        Selam Berhe –

        You are writing with the same wrong assumption like many – you assume or pretend the politics before the EPRDF ‘Ethnic’ federalism was not ethnic. It was Ethnic. Eritrea fought for 30 years because the government that ruled Ethiopia at the time was Ethnic.

        So – there is no harm trying to re-balance the Ethnic diversity of a country through a formal way. And there was no choice in 1991 but to form a government recognising Ethnic diversity when 90% of the forces entered Addis armed and struggling was Ethnic. Including Eritrea. I am not saying the method has no risk.

        There is risk – specially when you have a nasty administration who wants to polarize and exploit on your fault lines – just like the current one we have. I see the same trend in the US and UK, you can exploit by polarizing a nation by colour, religion, anti-migration etc,,, We used the ‘Ethnic’ gov for 30 years with relative peace and we still yet to see organically erupted ethnic conflict; all was planted conflicts which comes and goes following the actions of the cadres.

        I personally don’t think Ethiopian federalism is Ethnic based – we would have had Gondar, Gojam, Wollo regions instead of Amhara or no Debub region …but its no more important now – your side won and lets see how you roll – )

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kaddis,

          I like when you move on by saying “your side won and let’s see how you roll.” It means you let it go to experience it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Which side am I?

            When those Kerro demonstration were going on, I knew it will be the end of EPRDF was coming. They were using methods of peaceful resistance to overthrow the regime. Where you were praising EPRDF and revolutinary democracy is the only way (you still do) to move forward. People were talking about equatable representation etc, as if they were going to rule to ethernity without realizing the storm that was coming to sweep them away.

            I was one of the people who was arguing for the EPRDF to hand over power and resign because it lost the confidence of the people and call for a clean fair and free general election and accept the decision of the people, including supporting General Tsadqan call to reform with honest and integrity rather that play delaying tactics and politics.

            Abiy was no body then, may be only Hayat knew him what he is up to.

            Which side are you?

            Berhe

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Kaddis,

          I tend to believe our politicians and educated class tend to try to solve problems that does not exist.

          I made Ethiopia ethnic politics as a passing comment because of the interview I heard from one of Eritrea prominent opposition figure (Woldeyesus Ammar) stating what Bereket Simon (a prominent political figure with EPRDF) said advising Eritrean opposition who were gathering in Ethiopia for conference, to follow Ethiopian ethnic federalism architected by TPLF in Eritrea.

          Off course Ethiopia had relative peace under EPRDF, including wining all seats of parliament. Was that based on real support or something phoney, you will be the judge.

          One of the best advice I got was when I was attending first year university. I think it was the chancellor welcoming us, quoting Woody Allen “Eighty percent of life is showing up”.

          In our world, it’s the opposite I think, may be 80 percent they experiment and leave 20 percent alone.

          Yes you are right instead of Amhara kilil there withdraws have been gojam, gonder and shoa which would have been better for the people to identify with, including others (for example non Amhara) who are from those part.

          In Eritrea for example there is a city of Keren with old awraja senHit. It has people who are Bilen, Tigre, Tigrinya, Jeberti. Orthodix, Chatolics, Muslim and others. Every person in met from Keren, they are Kerenite first and what ever happen to be next.

          If for example, you say it’s Tigre and you divide along ethnic, then you create an autonomic ethnic division that didn’t exist.
          Instead of leaving things alone, you sieve 80% of the time trying to find a solution for a problem that never existed.

          As a kerenite, they could careless if the mayor or governor is Muslim, bilen, catholic, Tigrinya or orthodox. I do believe the people (the most majority) are able to pick the best person for the job.

          Why? I think in Eritrea for example, we are lucky because we don’t really have bad blood that spanned generation after generations. And instead of picking on the existing traditions, culture and make small constant progress, every social scientist wannabe want to experiment and change everything with out giving due consideration for long term consequences.

          Anyway I said enough. By the way, I am not in favour of Abiy 80 percent experimentation. I think he should have united the country, move slowly and transition to building trust.

          Peace with Eritrea was a good first step, but he should never compromise his integrity for short term gain. All he should have given Isayas is, face saving opportunity to move forward but keep his distance.

          Berhe

  • Ismail AA

    Selam all,

    First gratitude is due to the author for making time to write this clear and compact piece and gracing this forum. I write because, regardless of many things, he has provided us with something worthwhile to ponder on (I hope idle chatters won’t derail it to side issues). The “internal colonialism” perspective is no mean matter, and would be challenging to erudite participants who frequent this forum. By adding such an angle to the debate, he has actually raised the discussion to a different level – something we have not seen before. Serious commentators like Amanuel Hidrat would find much to look at in the backdrop of what they had been writing.

    Generally, occupancy of space by people around the globe is perhaps as old as existence of mankind as well as animals. Such movements in search of necessities of lifelihood and the finite nature of resources have been part and parcel of existance. As numbers multiplied congregation in terms of kinship had developed, an competition for resources became basis for communalization, which, with time, more organization and ordering of peoples in social groups har become necessity to sustain existence.This was the root of what came to be known as empires and concomitant colonizations in other lands at the expense of less equipped and weaker peoples. America and Australia are cases in point. Modernity has then brought us to creation of nations and national states.

    Now, if we have to look at what had been developing in Eritrea in the past two decades under the dictatorship, and before it in Ethiopia, especially during the reign of Menelik II, there is sense in opining that there had been state authorities sponsored movement of inhabitants from one location to another peoples’ lands without the volution of affected peoples. Settlements of such type within territorial limits of specific political entities has been indeed been internal colonization. This has nothing to do with movement of citizens and working and living anywhere in the territories of a nation state in accordance to legal prescription of rights and duties.

    It is in absence of such conditions that the ruling regime in Eritrea took ownership of the land, and has been distributing state employment and other land-based wealth to favoured segments of the society, creating in the affected peoples attitudes that their ancestral land was being given to settlers from other areas while they were denied repatriation from refugee camps.

    The long term ramification of this is deepening suspicion and complicating terms of national unity. Minimisation of the effects would depend on how far the enlightened segments of society would go to detach from, or disown, the regime, and genuinely demonstrating understanding solidarity and sharing the concerns of the affected.

    • Selamat Haw Abuye Ayya Ismail AA,

      t is a variable as I am sure you do not neglect in looking at any given problem. So I am quite sure you did not miss the influence of “weaker alliance in our region’s body politic” on this reactive article to that same influence. Or are you reconsidering that same weak alliance of the body politic has now grown stronger? If so, what changed in a weeks time?

      I do not believe there exists a deepening suspicion and complicating terms of national unity. The nation will always remain united no matter what happens. Consider the current unity of Eritrea and Ethiopia? Our regional body politic is still the same Ethiopia united, oh yeah with a stronger united Eritrea perched on top of it.
      If the TPLF is preparing for a one two punch, then I will have to press you on a topic that is concerning the despot IA. How do you really view him and if you have some deep respect for on a certain level.

      For the record, I belong to no Eritrean social group but I have experienced more Eritrean “social groups” than most within Hilet Sudan, Teseney Eritrea and within the four huts inside the denqeb fenced compound of our homes that buzzed with numerous of the languages of Eritrean nationalities. I was multilingual before the age of five…. I can tell you how many “social groups” were hunkered down inside one hut that was a storage for brisk, and how the elder sheik directed every one inside that one hut and sheltered for two weeks safe from the bullets that may pierce the straw or the mud. But the brick would certainly stop the bullet. At that young age, for two weeks sensing the fear in the air, the most calming thing I remember is the elder sheik would take his prayer mat every single day several times. As he prayed, the full multi nationalities filled room would also pray, several languages at the same time in perfect sink and harmony. My favorite time during the siege of Tesenney in 1977. Until the straw tops of the huts engulfed every single hut, compound after another, and it was clear the bricks in the our safe hut was not going to stop the fire. The elder sheik lead everyone to safe grounds… every Eritrean nationality made its home in Hilet Sudan Teseney and we all left our homes the entire neighborhood every hut burn to the ground as we were lead to safer grounds… every nationality present.

      TPLF may ignite another fire that may see all the “social groups” walk away from their homes yet again.
      We are simply not talking about what we are really supposed too.

      GitSAtSE

  • Haile S.

    Selam Yassin Hamid,

    A timely reminder of the state affaires of Eritrea as we see it getting governed by a group that say is doing things when it defends itself, but visibly hasn’t done anything to solve this pernicious problem. Using rough statistics from what we observe, hear-names, see, read etc, there is nothing to defend against or refute what you are saying. Not giving a deserved attention at all levels to this smouldering internal strife is no doubt more dangerous to our cohesion. Our fragmentation and the bad glue that is keeping us together exists not only in Eritrea, but also wherever we are scattered. We are destined to live together and to find solutions together. As to our present glue, group, regime whatever we call it, it had lost its eyes, not sure its teeth, and needs to change. Anyway, it governs ዓይኒ የብለይ ስኒ የብለይ as Paulos said below. It is not to find it an excuse, it is just the way it is. We definitely need new glue, a glue that melted from the edges of every fragment.

    P.S. as for the image accompanying your article, better not take our strife to Heavens. The red clouds pass while the turquoise (እታ ሰማያዊት) ascends. This could be considered cyclic conflict that we are trying to avoid. Am I interpreting too much? Sorry it is the nature of arts.

    • Dongolo

      Howdy brother Haile S. You are really a Slick Willy. You have the gall to talk ‘our fragmentation’ while referencing Paulos who is obviously punches Woyane timecards. Eritrean fragmentation, at least online community wise, is largely the result of paid TPLF trolls.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Dongolo,

        Please let us stick to the subject at hand. Please present your case if you believe what the author is saying or I or Paul said is not true. I would be convinced if what you will say is convincing and holds ground. Avoid wedging, taxonomy, nomenclature and playing whack the mole hitting every Forumer who pops up.

        • Dongolo

          Selam Haile S. Bro…it’s a matter of credibility. One doesn’t draw reference to Hitler to support their case against Nazism. If you feel that cozying up with TPLF employees bolsters your case…..well what can 1 say…

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Dongolo,
            Please focus on what the writer has provided. Substantial issues are raised, about which you can think and formulate an opinion, as Haile S suggested to you. Please try not to shift the discussion.

          • Dongolo

            Salem Ismail AA. Thank you for your kind comment. I am sure that you are consistent in reminding others not to veer off the discussion path (i.e. bird species and chemistry). Again, that for your consistency.

          • Selam Dongolo,
            If i may ask you, what does your nickname “dongolo” really mean? Is it a slang word which means ….. as the urban dictionary says.

          • Consolation

            Horizon,

            Google “dongolo eritrea” and you will be enlightened!

          • Brhan

            Hi Horizon
            It is a town in Eritrea.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            As Brhan correctly put it Dongolo is a place in Eritrea. Rumor has it that the Ethiopian Navy will be established in this area.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            I believe Horizon doesn’t like rumour. ኣታበላሸው!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            ያልተፈሳ አይሸትም ይባላል::

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Let us speak now about a fact. Do you know that there are civilian Ethiopians in Eritrea and have you ever wandered how they are doing during the COVID 19 in getting help : food and water?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I don’t know any civilian or military Ethiopians residing in Eritrea.
            There must be some working in the embassy.
            Tell me what you know. I’m in the dark. Bring me to your side:)

          • Brhan

            Hello Abi,
            You know our cultures are similar. The needy are either at the gates of a church or mosque.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Thanks for the info.
            You shed too much light on your comment I can’t read properly. If I may guess, you are implying that the Ethiopians are begging at the churches and mosques.
            So you started the conversation just to tell me this?
            You know me I don’t let you go easy after you make fun of the poor Ethiopians in your country. No Sir. That is not me. I never tried to play Jesus Christ. I don’t plan to start this game today.
            Do you want to know what Eritreans doing in Ethiopia COVID or no COVID , from Mekele to Moyale, from Gambela to Jijiga, …?
            They are in the universities and colleges. Let me leave it here. You don’t need me to come back to this topic.
            I like to keep the forum clean.
            Again, thanks for the information.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            You read my message out of its context.
            I am trying to tell you that there are Ethiopians in Eritrea who need help. I am trying to attract your attention and others because as you know in Eritrea , the gov’t doesn’t say anything about the conditon of the needy Eritreans, let alone Ethiopians. It is only during the COVID 19 the gov’t is trying to inform that needy Eritreans are getting the help. I do not know if Ethiopians are eligble to this help. And because there is no indpedent media, I do not know whether the help is realy reaching the needy.
            When I said the needy are either at the gates of church or mosque , I didn’t specify that they are Ethiopians ( you can double check the original comment). There are of course Eritreans.
            I was not playing either. I hope you understand me now.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Abi,

            Have you seen a show on YouTube by the comedian Mark Gungor entitled ‘Men’s and Women’s brains’? You will see a description of how Brhan’s brain operates (like women).

          • Selamat Abi and Brhan,

            I think both of you may have missed or skipped reading my response to Amde. You missed our partnership of opening a chain of BBQ restaurants from Massawa to Moyale to Gambela to Jijiga. The name of the restaurant chain, in the integrated economies of Eritrea and Ethiopia, will be Abi’s yegna ‘na ye TegenTTowoch Asseb BBQ Joints.
            Brhan will be the CEO of the company. The funding and the blue print I have already secured from Arbey’s chain of restaurants so long as the eateries will be two buildings side by side much like a KFC and Tacco Bell you see at rest stops across America. You should go back and read it because I wrote it for the two of you.

            But here let me address what you both have said from a different angle and because I choose your commonalities as opposed to your differences. And I strongly suggest that you do the same though I suspect you already do.

            When the needy go to a church and mosque it is for the purpose of receiving higher education from the most high. As are the Eritreans who are attending the universities in Ethiopia, they two seeking higher education. In any case, both are needy and seeking to better their circumstance.
            What we need to question is the response of the Eritrean church and mosque goers to the needy Ethiopians also at the church and mosque. Do they alleviate and lessen the burdens of the needy Ethiopian as the same goes for the Ethiopians alleviating the needs of the Eritreans in Ethiopia. Sincere inquiry and study of this dynamic is what we should all sample now in order to know the future and the integration of the economies of the two nations, the long lasting sustainable peace, the development of roads and electric lines, multilingual service workers, culinary specialists all necessary conditions for the success of our restaurant chains with a very long name Gash Abi’s yegna ‘na ye TegenTTowoch BBQ joint.

            Gash Abi, are you sure the Eritrean needs were not delegated to the UNCHR by the Ethiopian regional and central governments of Ethiopia? Or are left to fend for themselves? Would you please provide me data at the level of access and assistance the Ethiopians are providing the Eritrean youth refugees. I am experiencing first hand of a handful of my family all young and making frequent periodic runs to the money transfer folks. I can handle it but I can also use help as could all Eritreans in the same predicament. The Eritrean trust for Ethiopian will explode so much so that you wouldn’t have to travel to Asseb to get it, we Eritreans will bring drag Asseb to your door steps even if your doorsteps is located in Gambla or Jijigga. Yes the Eritreans will clear out the mountains and valleys to drag and deliver Asseb to you or we could leave Asseb where it is if you like it just as you left it the last time you had it. Have no worries man Asseb is for Ethiopians.
            Now how about we focus on developing the man power?

            It is okay to be Jesus today and respond to Brhan “The needy will always be with you.” I propose we Eritreans and Ethiopians prove Jesus wrong and rid of all the needy in Eritrea and Ethiopia by eliminating needs or meeting the necessities of the people. You know your Dabbo thing.

            Hungry for data data data and investigative reporting on this pertinent topic.

            GitSAtSE

          • Selamat Horizon,

            I believe Dongolo is a town in Eritrea. Can’t recall exactly where but it is in Semanawi KeyiH BaHri region. Not to far from GindaE I think. But Dongolo himself or others will respond to you.

            Dongolo almost sounds like the word dongola which is dingai in Amharic.

            GitSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selam Tsa-Tse Arkey,

            Here is imagination going berserk. How about the village was named after an Italian named “Golo” where the honorific Noble title “Don” was conferred on him? I suspect, Hailat or Aya Saleh may know.

          • Denmarkino Phil,

            I think it is precisely as you say I agree it must be Don Golo. Expect the confirmation of affirmative from the two.

            Now try GindaE.

            GitSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selam Tsa-Tse Arkey,

            That is so funny. I suspect GindaE was originally name of an Italian woman as in ጂንዳ and got corrupted into ጊንዳዕ!

          • Denmarkino Phil,

            You are on a role. Yes Jinda I agree but she was not Italian I don’t think. She may have been from Switzerland married to the Italian Don Golo with all the Jeradeen (I think the fruit groves Jeradeen… sounds a like Jira for circle and the pet name Don Golo called Jinda) So Jeradeen at GindaE. No I think I will leave it up to you, but only now
            lets bring it a little closer to home. As we Eritreans claim AdeAbo which is qelayy BeAltiet and DeqemHare is what we consider to be our town. So, rather get a DNA test maybe you can confirm it for right now that Gashe Abi is my uncle.

            It is true right? Deqi AmHare does mean sons and daughters of the Amara?

            Do you you hear the good news Uncle Gashe Abi. That I am your long lost nephew a proud Amara just like you? Tell Abi the good news Denmarkino Phil tell him tell him..

            GitSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selam Tsa-Tse Arkey,

            I agree. I have always suspected that Abination could be one of us save his wicked ሰምና-ወርቅ azz.

            That said, here is the Jewell on the Crown where we had them smart Eritreans back in the 20s. As you know, Born, Heisenberg, Schrodinger, Bohr understood the nature of light when they realized that energy was not continuous rather it is proportional to its frequency when energy or light is quantized.

            And as it happened, an Eritrean back in Eritrea applied the same concept to a chunk of meat where he said, meat can as well be sliced into discrete quantas when he dubbed the thinly sliced meat ቋንጣ!

          • Haile S.

            Selam XaXe and Paul,

            I am not sure how you guys disgressed to this. You are almost considering Eritrea as a no man’s land where Italians discovered it and had the fun of labeling places after their names and pets and pants. It looks like you are placing a deposit for your retirement home in Mekelle (Giovanini Micchaelle? :-)).
            Every valley, river, stream, hills, mountain, plant, plain, hip of rocks an old tree and what have you on our region was given a name and identified till today with that name. Based on a detailed map I saw, Dongolo is likely the name of chain of hills around it. GhindaE is the name of the large valley beside the town. Emba-Derho for example appears on the maps and itineraries of 14 hundreds maps.

            Now one of you suggested Dongolo could be from Dongola. Apart stone what is Dongola in Eritrea and the region? ደንጎላ ድኣ ይጽቀጥኩም፡ ንስኻትኩም’ሲ! ምስ ሞትኩም! ኤእ ተድልዩና ኢኹም ዋላ ከምዚኣ ኰንኩም።

            Please place your responses to my question on Jebena. Sorry Ismail AA and Emma. ተዛሪቦም የዛርቡኻ፡ ኣጥምና ኢሎም…. ኮይኑኒ።

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Of course we were having fun with it till you put us in place with your stern Professorial demeanour and look. As you put it, the names were not given in a spur of the moment or right of the cuff but it has a meaning of some sort related to nearby surroundings. That said, some of the names are really funny. How in the world one would name a village ዓዲ-ቀ for instance.

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Paul,

            Sorry, it is a reflex from my previous professional life. Now please redirect yourself to Jebena and answer my question. If you get it, you will be compensated with a Fantisque joke from Adigrat (no other understanding please).

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Hailat,

            I was already laughing on Dr. Paulos’s post above when I saw your “Adigrat” promise. I am totally prepped!

            By the way, there is a village called Dongolo in the middle of Tigray as old as Adam himself.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            I can’t find it in Jebenna.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            I explained that in Negarit 90 “Don Quixote” but the I edited it out because Wikipedia does a better job explaining it. MADONNA! Now Jebena is waiting for you—HaileS already sipping his Awel bun 🙂

          • Dongolo

            Selam Horizon. Dongolo (split into 2 parts [higher & lower] is a town on the road from Massawa to Asmara where the Eritrean training and maintenance base is located. It is also know for natural sparkling water which is a bit more saline than Ambo but still great for hangovers. It s named after the town Dongola (present day Sudan) which was the capitol of the ancient Christian Kingdom of Makuria which originated from earlier expeditions from the Ancient Greek – Euboean city called Eretria.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Dongolo,
            Thank you. Everyone of us who come here has something to give to one another and take from one another as well. The way to do it is simple: decency and respect to one another and follow the guidelines of the host.

    • Saleh Johar

      HaileS
      Being French you have to interpret things to the kill, particularly on food and arts 🙂

      I asked the person who did it. He laughed and said “ I didn’t think about it but now that someone thinks that way, I wish I had known earlier I would have highlighted that better”. He also said, one is a partisan symbol and the other is a national symbol.

      I wish I did it. If so It would not be that subtle, if that was the intention in the first place.

      Take care.

  • Paulos

    Selam Yassin,

    Many thanks for the well written and articulated article. But I must say that, I read it with mix feelings where the timing could not have been worse when what we need at this critical juncture is not tacit recrimination and valid resentments but unity now, unity now and unity now instead.

    That said however, the challenges you presented us with to reframe the form of oppression we have in Eritrea is not only academically astute but intellectually curious as well. The etymology of the word “colony” itself was derived from a Latin word “Colonus” where it means “Settlement Farm” where it was first coined when retired Roman soldiers settled in fertile and rich lands. Certainly, as it is usually the case, words as well get modified and evolve into meanings that fit contemporary socio-political realities–so did the word colony particularly when it joined the pantheon of “isms.”

    One can make the argument that, wouldn’t it be redundancy and clutter of words when we can easily describe the kind of system in Eritrea a clear cut Dictatorship if not an out right Totalitarianism instead of “Internal-Colonialism.” That argument appears to be solid, when we see that the regime in Eritrea doesn’t discriminate when it’s brutal hand is conspicuous, ubiquitous and palpable in every segment of the society–‘precisely because the one man in power is laser focused to stay in power by any means necessary not driven by favouring one over another.

    Of any interest, the Yale Law Professor Amy Chua, about ten years ago, challenged the Marxist tradition when she made the central thesis of her book, “World on Fire”–the driving force behind history might not be the ceaseless struggle between the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat or colloquially speaking between the haves and the have-nots but between the wealthy ethnic minority and the impoverished majority where interestingly enough she mentioned the economic power of Eritreans in Ethiopia during the three previous regimes.

    • A.Osman

      Selamat Paul,

      Please elaborate on the Eritreans in Ethiopia, how she connected it to support her theory. Many Ethiopians complain based on what they know of Eritreans in Ethiopia, while they seem to overlook that the condition for Eritreans within Eritrea was totally different. Has she fallen in similar narrow analysis and still within that framing Eritreans in Ethiopia where not in conflict as they were not the drivers of the struggle for independence.

      The article discussing internal colonialism may help in analysing the segmental issues/feelings, but at the end it will be counter productive as it will further spilt Eritreans and not help is getting rid the dictator who is the main driver to what ails the nation. My biggest concern is the treatment of Afar people as has been reported for while and now has reached a dire situation. When their basic means of survival in taken away and they are prevented from fishing, I smell something conspiratorial from DIA to push them away from believing in the nation itself, I can’t get my head around this problem even when I try to rationalise the irrational. That issue is very sensitive and it will be exploited if not addressed promptly.

      Regards
      AOsman

      • Paulos

        Selam A. Osman,

        My apologies for the belated reply. The book was written over a decade ago and her research, methodology including her conclusion was based on the economic standing of Eritreans in Ethiopia where it seems to fit in to her narrative or thesis.

        Certainly, it is a bit of a stretch to conclude that Eritreans were riding the mantle of political power as well but again the seamless pattern she argued with shows that the Chinese, for instance, controlled the economic and political sphere in South-East Asia, in the Malay Peninsula including in the Philippines when they are in fact ethnic minority. More over, she mentions the wealthy Lebanese in West Africa including in Liberia who control the political power when they are ethnic minority. It was with in that setting that she mentioned Eritreans in Ethiopia albeit in passing.

        • Selamat Demarkino AArkey,

          That is right along the lines of Eritreans thriving and controlling the economy of Addis Abeba and possibly anywhere or every where from Massawa or Asseb to Addis Abeba or beyond to the south Gambela. Transportation lick trucking did have very high Eritrean presence of dominance. Hotel owners, merchants or all sorts and auto mechanics in Addis Abeba I believe was also areas with heavy Eritrean presence. And I am sure there were opportunities in civil services, banking and health services for Eritreans who made their residence in Addis Abeba. To a certain degree, some of those same Eritreans and a whole lot more new ones have returned to Addis Abeba. I personally may have more family members in Addis Abeba and Tigray than in Eritrea or anywhere else in the world. Addis Abeba University has a Tuition scale for refugees, international students on their web site as well as the admission criteria. It would really be helpful to highlight now the level of Eritrean refugees integration into the Addis Abeba economies. If you can dive and share what you have knowledge off, I believe it is a subject worthwhile addressing right now.

          And since you are Tigrai-file, i.e. you do exhibit more love than most for the people of Tigray and the TPLF, do you think a massive economic integration of Tigray, Amara and Eritrea, the new AA of the northern regions be a reality in the near future? What would does it look like to you?
          Lets start speaking about the equitable distribution of resources of the region looks like. What existing initiatives of the focused integration of the economies of the people already are in existence? How many seats have the TPLF allocated for the Eritrean refugees? Are there scholarship funds by the regional government of Tigray available for Eritrean refugees to benefit from? What are the employment opportunities in Tigray at present for the the Eritrean refugees? Does the TPLF desire more to pass out fishing rods and fish bait to be used on the GERD Lake Meles Prosperity or an AK47 for incursions to Eritrea by the Eritrean youth refugees? What should be lobbied for at the moment? Yeah, put to good use that big head and very high IQ of
          yours?

          GitSAtSE

          • David Samson

            Selamat Sele,

            As with many other, you have bought up the story that Eritreans excelled in or benefited from Ethiopia. One can easily bin this myth if you frame it within the context of immigration. As you know, the USA has been successful, mainly due to immigration. An immigrant could easily see and spot an opportunity where a local could not. This is true everywhere, in almost all societies.

            You might be surprised to learn the most successful business
            people of 40s-50s in Eritrea had Ethiopian blood. I know most of them, but I do not want to go to blood politics. Why were these people successful? For the simple fact, I argued earlier: they saw the opportunity whereas the locals did not.

            If a member of mafia swindle British government, would
            you call it Italia had robbed Britain? No. because the mafia is a clique and criminal organisation which works for its members. The same could be argued about the alleged looting of Ethiopia during the early 90s. I do not believe any Eritrean had directly or indirectly benefited from the alleged looting. It was shared among the
            mafia members. They just cover their faces using the state of Eritrea.

          • Selamat David Samson,

            I know exactly what you mean. I have lived it as you and many Eritreans and Ethiopians here have. I avoided a life of jail and the street hustle fast lane the minuet I was arrested by NYPD 100th precent at the age of 15. I have been behind the peeping hall of fourth floor apartment building measuring powdered milk by the ounces…. But I got out of the game as soon as it dawned on me there will be no opportunity for an immigrant like me in jail… and so I was about the only one in my neighborhood that went beyond 9th grade and finish HS in Harlem USA…That is Spanish Harlem.

            But do you think the current Eritrean youth refugees in Ethiopia would be allowed to see the opportunities that the locals don’t see? Also consider one of the greatest African leader in history HIM Haile Sillasie. He put a lot of effort to integrate Eritreans into the Ethiopian economy he was vigorously trying to develop to the level of the first world. I am sure the same level of investment as HS for Eritrean students could not be asked of current Ethiopian governments but certainly an effort of lobbying Ethiopian leaders to invest in developing the Eritrean youth refugees could net tremendous dividends for both countries.
            There is lots of ailments in our society that needs immediate attention and Eritrean leaders should be focusing on how the Eritreans could benefit Ethiopia by increasing the already achieved developments by aligning themselves with all of Ethiopians as opposed to taking sides.

            And we will be addressing the issue soon enough for sure.

            GitSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selam Tsa-Tse Arkey,

            Tigrai-Phile or Tigrai-File? You kinda confused me there but you probably meant the former when the reality is neither. I am an Eritrea who believes that the Tigreans are on the right track and are better off with TPLF till other party offers better ideas which can adopt to changing socio-political realities in the and of the future.

            I am not privy not do I have any better information than yours on how the education policies work with respect to Eritrean refugees including the job opportunities. But I can say a thing or two on the prospect of economic integration between Eritrea, Tigrai and either the rest of Ethiopia or the Amhara region.

            When economic integration is alluring and appealing like for a kid a candy on site, it is an end in itself only when trust is firmly established between the States involved. Trust not certainly based on the people in power al’a Isaias and Abiy but trust rooted in political and legal institutions in tandem with fostering civic culture as well.

            The conventional wisdom has it that Democracies do not go to war against each other, as such economic integration is not only a boon for the wellbeing of the respective people involved but it discourages the nations from resorting to hostilities in resolving any rising tension as well.

            As you know, after paying a heavy human cost in both World Wars, Europe undertook “Coal and Steel Corporation” in the early 50s which later on graduated into a community of nations circa fifty years later when it was dubbed “European Union” with a single currency and a common political vision as well. If Europe was able to pull a challenging task off, I don’t see why we can not. But again, we have to clean up our internal mess as in getting rid off tyranny first and foremost.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Paulos,

            The economic cooperation/integration is the key for for our countries future harmony and peace.
            Ethiopia in recent past took 2 or 3 steps forward but took 1 step back with recent political adjustments. Hopefully it will pick up again and move forward. Social unrest is never conducive for the well being of a country’s economy and I hope with the Dam and other projects it will keep on the march.

            Few days ago, you posted about what is the detail of the agreements signed in Saudi Arabia and UAE between Eritrea and Ethiopia.
            Those are the sources of my nightmares. Nightmares come about with the possible catastrophes one imagines. It is also augmented with tidbit or incomplete information you see that doesn’t make sense..
            One of those video pictures I have seen Saudis and UAE were so happy and giddy. They declared content about the making of peace between Eritrea and Ethiopia. Isn’t that the 1st?. It sounds hollow to me and worries me until I see what it was all about. I know I have to check myself about my own baked bias when it comes to our neighbors but everyone have to admit it was not a normal behavior. That might have an inordinate influence on what road we are traveling on.

            Mr. K.H

          • David Samson

            Selam KH,

            It is over to you!

            I would not expect Abiy to reveal his signature with IA so long as he feels that it is in the interest of his country not to do so. As you know, there is no such thing as a free lunch. The Arabs would not have agreed to anything unless they have got something in return. No-one would be bothered to ask the bankrolls of their signature, either. If are dying to know, perhaps, you could lobby the Federal government parliament to pressure ABIY to appear before the MPs to spill his beans. I suspect that would be the end of his premiership. So, my point is, why should ABIY bother of informing Ethio people if he feels he has got the deal of the century? The only string attached to the deal is: He has to remain tight-lipped. No much to ask for!

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

            I suspect the signing had a lot to do with Egypt for it would be too obvious and suspicious if the signing was done in Cairo for Saudi and UAE might have acted as surrogates instead. Here, there is a bigger picture at play. I think.

            As you know, China has been riding in a breakneck speed to have its presence felt particularly in Africa when the West was practically asleep and the former extended soft loans, grants to the cash hungry African nations when they had been overlooked if not seen with contempt by the West. The threat of China to the West was not only limited to Africa but including the stretch of influence from the Mediterranean to the Indian Subcontinent and from the Central Asia or Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf as well.

            The said stretch of land which is otherwise known as the “Silk Road” from antiquity had been under shifting powers from Italian City-States, Ottomans, British and eventually the US. The Horn of Africa is with in the cleavage of the sphere where the Red Sea has always been vital. Ethiopia’s imperatives is seen with in that Calculus where it’s strength or weakness is not only determined by its internal dynamics but by other critical factor as well—Egypt.

            The single most important threat to Egypt is not it’s relations with the other rival and competing Arab nation or Israel but the source of the Nile rather. As you know, 85 percent of the Nile including the silt comes from the Highlands of Ethiopia, as such Egypt’s life is dependent on it so much so that, the entire psych and politics of Egypt is shaped up by the Nile. What was signed should be seen with in that context when the nervous Egyptians found a breathing space when Abiy was helped to come to power.

          • Selamat Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paulos,

            I realized as soon as I wrote it down and it did give me a discomfort as the latter could be interpreted as if I am saying suruuE Tigray/suuruE weyane yada yada… And I am quite sure it was not a Freudian slip. A friend of mine who has been in the USA mans the security of a mid town building consisting of studios where musicians like Cindy Lopper and other come and go at will. When I drove from California to NY with my acoustic guitar on hand he gave the door code of an empty studio on the eight floor and I slept comfortably for the night and saved a few hundred dollars for hotel fees. It was during the first week of the COVID19 shelter in place crises and as I have not been in NYC for over a decade and a half…. I don’t think anybody would have put me up due to COVID19. And the studios will be there whenever I travel to NYC from Buffalo. I am telling you this story to picture in your mind of an Eritrean manning the building where the stars come and go. My Eritrean friend dreams to retire in Tigrai and even tries to convince me to save along with him and for us to retire in Tigrai. I have already start putting stocks of dollars away. The draw would be Mekele University for me. Do you know how their library is? or have you visited the campus? As you could see I intend to write volumes and so I either better improve my spelling or double my savings to employ an excellent speller and editor I find on the campus of Mekele University during my retirement years.
            Yes, The people of Tigrai are our brothers and sisters. I know love of your brother. Phila del phia. So Paul is it okay to spell your name with Phil… with Love.

            Ah.. I will get back to respond to the rest of your post a little later.

            GitSAtSE

    • Abi

      Paul
      What you mentioned about the economic power of Eritreans in Ethiopia during the previous regimes ( until 1998 to be exact) is a textbook example of “ settlement colonialism “ as clearly stated by the author of this article.

      When I said Ethiopia got its independence in 1998, I was not bluffing.

      • Dongolo

        Selam Abi. Bro, if Ethio really got it’s independence in 1998, why you then loitering around here? You sound like 1 of those Derg boot soldiers that has long antiquated thoughts of their ‘glory’ days in Eritrea. Landlocked for 30 years cuz your TPLF were stupid and you simply cannot accept the fact.

        • Abi

          Hello Dongolo
          You asked, why a derg boot soldiers loiter around here?
          Well, I’m here to teach a thing or two for the Arab wannabe donqoro who is wearing an immigration officer costume like yourself.

          Next time make sure to flash your badge before you ask a passport with a valid visa.

    • Dongolo

      Selam Paulos, if you are going to remain a copy & paste Doctors in attempt to impress people, would then suggest that you ensure what you are using the gun glue for is correct. Poseidon is definitely angry at you.

      • Paulos

        Dongolo,

        ሃለውለው ኣይትበል!

        • Dongolo

          Paul…well …..well….thought we were ‘neighbors’….Huh?