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Belgium: Eritrean Refugees In Limbo

Belgium, considered a relatively good destination for refugees, is now where many refugees are staying in a limbo for extended time. According to a Belgian report, “Where there used to be about 60 to 70 asylum applications of Eritreans every year … that number dramatically increased to 215 per month in July 2014.”

It has been reported that the Belgian foreign affairs (DVZ) is using the Dublin Regulation to block application of Eritrean asylum seekers.

Since August 2014, DVZ has blocked hundreds of applications from being processed by CGVS, the Belgian entity responsible for identifying applicants and deciding their fate.

Based on the claim of the applicants who stated they arrived to the country via Italy, Belgium has requested Italy to take back the refugees. No further investigation, including fingerprinting, has been carried out to verify the claims.

According to CGV, Italy has a limited time to respond to the request. If it fails,there is fear that Belgium might forcibly deport the applicants back to Italy.

It is the first time that Belgium is applying this law, and as a result, hundreds of Eritrean asylum seekers are stranded with uncertain fate.

Since 2013, the number of Eritreans asylum seekers in Europe has overwhelmed many countries. This has stirred serious debate among European governments that seek to limit the intake of immigrants, and groups who see the case from the human right perspective.

Italy, supported by a few countries in Europe, is pursuing a strategy of appeasing the Eritrean regime to convince it to reform in the hope of decreasing the flight of people from Eritrea. However, most Eritreans believe that “The removal of the regime is the only way that can limit the escape of Eritreans from their country, and that Italy should know better.”

Meanwhile, on Thursday November 6, 2014, Brussels saw labor protests that ended in violence. Tens of thousands of people demonstrated against government economic reform policies and austerity measures. Police used tear gas and pressured water to quell the demonstration. Officials say the measures are needed to control deficit while the labor unions reject that explanation.

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  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Awatistas,

    The Dublin Agrrement was rebuffed recently in a meeting held in Strasburg according to Harnet.org report. This is a good news to those Eritreans who are in question.

    http://harnnet.org/index.php/news-and-editorial/item/1010-european-court-rebuffs-dublin-accord-on-refugees-most-affected-is-switzerland

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Rahwa and Fetima:
    These types of references reflect the insecurities and prejudices of their writers. However, it would be a mistake to let them buzz around. The intention is clear. It won’t help us here though, do them in your private circles if you must have to. I would urge you to refrain from blatant generalizing racist references or statements. You may have heard those accounts but they remain to be statements of their Sayers. Please hold on to your prejudice and keep bringing constructive ideas. I am referring to your comments below. Thanks.

    Fetima Dechasa Abinet • 5 hours ago

    Akkam Abinet,

    Hahaha you are hilarious. A diaspora born Eritrean whom I met at UCSD once told me that it is very easy to differentiate Eritreans from Ethiopians. When I asked him how the guy told me that in comparison Eritreans are taller, lighter in complexion, smarter, well read, more civilized, and better looking than us. I laughed so hard in the middle of the conference hall. He even gave me an example of Meles and Isayas LOL. Funny enough he was even darker than I. Pure comedy I tell youyou.4

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    Rahwa T Fetima Dechasa • an hour ago

    Hi Fetima,

    You reminded me my teen-age friend who used to me “we (meaning Eritreans) have sharp nose, well-built physique, and other good qualities” as factors that differentiate them from us. That was so funny. But years have passed since then and I hope he has matured by now and might have noticed the picture of the people surrounding him. As the Amharic adage goes “bedereq erTib yinedal “the modern day adult-“kids” are repeating the same mistakes. But thanks God we have also nice guys from Mereb Milash such as Hayat, Haile, Amanuel, Semere, Kokheb selam. You guys have to take care not to include them with the bad apples

    • Admas

      እረ እናንተ ሰዎች ቁስል አትነካኩ, ስለገጠመኝ ካነሳችሁማ ብዙ ነገር አለ…እንዲያዉም ብዙ ኢትዮጵያዊ ስለ ኤርትራዊያን የሚያዉቀዉ ከፖለቲካቸዉ ይልቅ በዛች በተለመደችዉ “የብዙ ኤርትራዊያን” ባዶ ጉራ ነዉ ማለት ይቻላል..ወደ ቁምነገሩ ልመለስና ኤርትራዊያንን በተመለከተ በአንድ የታሪክ አጋጣሚ የተፈጠረ(ከጣሊያን ጋር ያሳለፍዋትን የባርነት ጊዘ ብንወስድ) የአስተሳሰብና ምናልባትም የአንዋንዋር መበከል አልነበረም ብሎ ለመካድ ይከብዳል…እዉነት ነዉ ኤርትራዊያን ከባርነት የተገኘችዉን ትርፍራፊ ሙያ ይዘዉ በፊውዉዳል ስርኣት ስር ሲማቅቅ የኖረዉን የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ሲቀላቀሉ ከማንም በላይ ፈጥነዉ የመበልጸግና የተሻለ ኑሮ የመኖር እድል ነበራቸዉ…እና በርግጥም አዲስ አበባና በኢትዮጵያ ዋና ዋና ከተሞች አስመራን ጨምሮ ይኖሩ የነበሩት ኤሪትራዊያን ራሳቸዉን ያነጻጽሩ የነበረዉ ከአብዛኛዉ ጭቁን የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ጋር ስለነበረም ነዉ ኤርትራዊነት ራሱ ከከተሜዉ ኤርትራዊ(አስማሪኖዎች) የተወለደ የቲዕቢት ማንነት ነዉ የሚባለዉ. ታዲያ የኤርትራን ትክክለኛ የህዝብ ወይም የመጠነ-ሃብት አቅም ሳያገናዘብ በጣሊያን ትፍራፊ “ስልጣኔ” ሰክረዉ የጠነሰሱትን ማንነት ከ”ናጽነት” በሃላ በተግባር ማሳየት ሲያቅታቸዉ በጉራ ቢያቆዩት ምን ችግር አለዉ?…እዉነት ነዉ, በአንድ ወቅት ከላይ በጠቀስክዋችዉ ምክኒያቶች ኤርትራዊያን ምቾት ይታይባቸዉ ነበር, አሁን ግን አይታይም, እዉነት ነዉ “most” ኤርትራዊያን ከላይ በጠቀስካዋቸዉ ምክኒያቶች ብልጠት ይታይባቸዉ ነበር, አሁን ግን ተጃጅለዋል..ኦሮሞ ሆኖ መጠመቅ ሁሉ ጀምረዋል..ወዘተ…እናም መፍተሄዉ ድሮ ብታሪክ አጋጣሚ ተፈጥሮ የነበርዉን የተዉሶ ለዛቸዉን መካድ ሳይሆን አሁን ራሳቸዉ በራሳቸዉ ሲመሩም ክብራቸዉን እንዲተብቁ ማበረታታት ነዉ….እንደጣሊያን ፓስታ መጠቅለልና ሞተር ማጠብ ባናስተምራቸዉም ከኛ ከድሆቹም አንዳንድ ጨዋነት ሳይማሩ አይቀሩም ብየ እገምታልሁ..at least humble መሆን እንካው አንድ ነገር ነዉ..ግን በተለይ “የአንዳንዶቹ” ጉራ, Oh my God, a while ago I was chatting with one Amiche who as usual tries to play dual citizen when it comes to insulting Ethiopians.(as we all know Ethiopia does not allow dual citizenship) but this guy kept on laughing about some Ethiopian peasants he used to know in Tigray, the fact that they didn’t wear under-pants and or even shoes and so on..to be honest I didn’t make much of it since he was using terms such as “የኛ ሃገር ሰዎች እኮ” so it seemed he was just chatting about a normal childhood memory until all of a sudden he jumped to his Kenyan experience and started telling me how Kenyan farmers are better dressed and better versed in English and so on…then came the bombshell when he said, “I looked at how Kenyan farmers are well advanced and they must have Eritrean blood in them”….እረ ተዉኝ ባካችሁ, I some times wish we had never never ever known….

      • Admas

        “I looked at how Kenyan farmers were well advanced and THOUGHT they must have Eritrean blood in them”

      • haileTG

        ኣድማስ

        ኣይ ያንተ ነገር! መጃጃሉ’ስ ኣልፎ ተርፎሃል፡ ኣይደል እንዴ? እና ውጥንቅጡ ሲናወጥብህ ግዜ ኣንድ ኣምቼ፡ ትግራዮች ሱሪን ያለ ሙታንታ ነው የሚታጠቁ ኣለኝ ብለህ ኣረፍክ! ወንድሜ፡ ሱሪን ያለ ሙታንታ መልበሱን የሚያቅ፡ ባለቤቱ ወይ ጠንቋይ፡ ኣለበለዛም የወሲብ ተላላፊ በሽታ ሃኪም እንጂ፡ የሩቅ ታዛቢ መሆን ኣይችልም። ሌላም ደግሞ ኣምቼ ማለት እኮ እዛው ኣንተ ጋር ያደገ ሰው እኮ ነው። ከምን የዋለ ምን ተማረ ነው የሚሉት ባክህ? እኔው እንደሆን፡ የሱሪውና ሙታንታን ጨዋታህ፡ የተመሳቀለብህን ኣያያዝ የምያሳይ ተረት እንጂ፡ ያልኖርክበትን ኣገር ሰው ክብር በተራ ትችት የሚፈርጅ ኣይደል ባይ ነኝ። ምክንያቱም፡ ኣገርህ የተለመችውን የእድገት መርሃ-ጎዳና ገና ሳይገባደድ፡ መሰረተ ልማቶች፡ ኣድገው ጎልብቶው ሊቋቋሙ ይችሉ ዘንድ የሚያስፈልግ የግዜና፡ ታታሪ ጥረትን ተራራው ገና ሳይወጣ፡ እንዲሁ ባለ በሌለ መንቀባረር፡ ራሱ ያእሚሮህን ሱሪ ያለ ሙታንታ መታጠቅህን የሚኣመላክት ነው። ከዛ የባሰም የለም ምክንያቱ እውልቆ ምስተካከሉ ሳይከብድ ኣይቀርም።

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        • Admas

          Hi haile,

          “ትግራዮች ሱሪን ያለ ሙታንታ ነው የሚታጠቁ ኣለኝ ብለህ ኣረፍክ! ወንድሜ፡ ሱሪን ያለ ሙታንታ መልበሱን የሚያቅ፡ ባለቤቱ ወይ ጠንቋይ፡ ኣለበለዛም የወሲብ ተላላፊ በሽታ ሃኪም እንጂ፡ የሩቅ ታዛቢ መሆን ኣይችልም።”

          That is exactly my point ወንድሜ, እድሜ ለገድሊ, የፈጠራ ገጠመኝ(ፕሮፖጋንዳ) ከብዙ ኤርትራዊያን ደም ለመዋሃዱ እርግጠኛ ነኝ ብዙ ኢትዮጵያዊይን ይስማሙኛል..በጣም የሚገርመዉ ደግሞ በማይተዋወቅ ኤርትራዊ መሃል እንክዋ የገጠመኞቻዉ መመሳሰል..once they find out a person’s ethnic background they start saying things ‘they think’ that person would want to hear. “አንድ አማራ ግውደኛችን ስለትግሬዎች እንዲህ አለኝ, አንድ ኦርሞ አግኝቼ አቤት ለትግራዮች ያለዉ ጥላቻ” ወዘተ…I’m not saying those the kind of people Eritreans meet don’t exist , but it is just weird that they only meet Eritreans and it is even weird when they are talked in out-of-place situation…አንዳንዴ ብሶት ያለዉ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሁሉ ካልጠፋ የአለም ህዝብ ኤርትራዊዉን ብቻ ፈልጎ ብሶቱን የሚያወራ አስኪመስል…”አንድ ናይጀሪያዊ ግዋደገኛችን መንገድ ላይ አግኝቸዉ ስለኢትዮጵያ ድህነት አወራልኝ” ወዘተ…Obviously Haile I don’t expect you to notice this things as you probably see nothing wrong in hearing what you have been brought up hearing or even doing it yourself and you probably do it subconsciously but you can not deny the fact that Gedlhi was found on constructed myth and systematic propaganda against the people of Ethiopia so perhaps that is what is still affecting the way most Eritreans see themselves and conduct with people…

          Hailiye, the solution isn’t to deny the undeniable, but find a cure for the mentality that has become a curse to your own existence. you may choose to trash my opinions and advice but if you really have a genuine concern for your people you would see it for it’s seriousness and deadliness because I’m dead sure the people who are ruining your country right now and misjudge situations are direct results the kind of mentality I have just mentioned and nothing but that distorted idea of who they are is what is driving them crazy. so don’t go mad at me, go mad at your own madness..ባልወዳችሁ መች ከናንተ ጋር ጊዘዬን አጠፋ ነበር ሃይልዬ…ሰዉ ሲጠፋ ዝም ብዬ ማየት አልወድም..

          • haileTG

            ኣድማስ

            እኔ ኤርትራ ተልወጄ ያደግኩ ኤርትራዊ ሰው ነኝ። ብዙ ኣመታት በፊት ወደ ሳምንት የሚያህል ግዜ ኣዲስ ኣበባ በኩል ኣልፌ ነበር። ኣማርኛ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ ውስጥ እስከ 12ኛ ክፍል ተማርኩ። እዚህ የውጭ ኑሮም፡ ከተለያየ የኢትዮጵያ ክፍላተህብረተሰብ የመጣ ብዙ ኢትዮጵያዊ ወዳጅ ጓደኛ ኣለኝ። ካንዳንዱ፡ እስከ ልጆቻችን ድረስ ኣብረው ተኝተው አያደጉ ያሉ ናቾው። ያንተኑ ዓይነት ጉንተላና ዝንጠላ፡ ከኢንተርነት ውጪ ኣይቼም ሰሚቸም ኣላቅም። የፖለቲካ ኣለመግባባት እንዳለ የሚካድ ኣይደል፡ ከዝያ ኣልፎ ግን፡ እንዲህ የምታወራው ዓይነት የፈጠራ ቀልድ ከነጭራሹም የለም። በኢትዮጵያዊ በኩል የደረሰብኝ መጥፎ እለ ማለትም እልችልም። የዋህና፡ ሰው ኣክባሪ መሆናቹ ኣቃለሁ። ሌላ ጠለቅ ብየ የማቀው ባወራህ ደሞ፡ ገድህ ይፈላ ነበር። ነገር ግን እውነት እንደ ጸሃይ ወገግ ብላ የምትደምቅበት ግዜ በጣም ቅርብ ስለሆነ፡ የቂመኞች ነፍስ-ኣድን መንፈራገጥ ሁላ ረጋ ብየ በተዝናና መንፈስ እየተከታተልኩ ነኝ። ኣሉባልታ የወረተኞች ብቸኛ ሙያ መሆኑ ነቃ ማለት ሳያስፈልግ ኣይቀረም። በትግርኛ የምትጽፍልኝ መልስ በጉጉት እጠባበቃለሁ፡ ምክንያቱ የኤርትራም ይሁን ያጠቃላይ የትግሬ ህ/ሰብ ማንነትን በተመለከተ ያለህን የእውቀትን ግንዛቤ ጥልቀት ለመገምገም ያስችለኛል ብየ ስለማምን።

          • Admas

            HI Hailed, I don’t have geez on this particular device i’m using now but I don’t understand what u mean by my knowledge about Tigre society, which Tigre do u mean? I’ve specifically stated eritreanse but it seems u have not made up ur mind about ur new found unique identity which clearly and legaly separates u from any other Tigre in the region. U see u r proving me right by repeating exactly what I said about ur mischievous nature cos clearly u trying to play the Tigre game in attempt to separate Ethiopian Tigre frothy rest of Ethiopians.so get Hailed, Ethiopians r Ethiopians and eritreans eritreans so no need to mix identity whenever u need for malicious purpose. As for writing in tigrigna, don’t need to prove language skill in order to prove my knowledge about a certain society, again that is another mischievous way of trying to findout one’s ethnic background.

          • haileTG

            Selam Admas,

            If you know Tigrigna your knowledge of the Tigrigna speaking peoples of the region commonly reffered as “Tigriewoch”, as you described in your story about your friend, would be a knoch higher. Not your knowledge of Rashaida, Hidareb, Nara …. as they represent the rest of Eritrea. So, knowing Tigrigna would portray your knewledge of the people of its speakers is a common sense and logical statement, however, you saw all red in it, you saw ethnicity, recism, division and such like. That has inadvertently revealed howevere, your deeper fears, anxieties and reactionary mindset. That is why you framed your childish joke as Eritrean vs Tigrayan, that is why you said cultural or kinship bonds don’t matter, that is why you’re all out now levying accusations. I admit that there was an element of coordinating my words on my part to have you exposed for your mony’s worth. You fell for it and shown yourself what you truly are after. Fortunatly, there is little one can do in identity related realities, only the sick minded find it amusing and toy with it.

            Regards

          • Admas

            correction…

            HI Haile
            I don’t have geez on this particular device i’m using now but I don’t understand what u mean by my knowledge about Tigre society, which Tigre do u mean? I’ve specifically stated ‘Eritrean’ but it seems u have not yet made up your mind about ur new found unique identity which clearly and legally separates u from any other Tigre in the region. U see u r proving me right by repeating exactly what I said about your mischievous nature cos clearly u trying to play the Tigre card in an attempt to separate Ethiopian Tigre from the rest of Ethiopians. So get Haile, Ethiopians are Ethiopians and eritreans eritreans hence there is no need of mixing identity whenever it suits you for your malicious purpose. As for writing in tigrigna, I don’t need to prove language skill in order to prove my knowledge about a certain society, again this is another mischievous way of trying to find-out one’s ethnic background…
            .

            a side note for the retarded Awatista Nitric, you better get real and understand that there is no such thing as Eritrean or Ethiopian blood, whoever chose to be ethiopian and became part of Ethiopian establishment is an Ethiopian and the fact that you fell under one Tigrigna bigot does not make your blood any different…I don’t think your Italian ex-masters who brought the name Eritrea came with a syringe full of blood, if they did it must be a contaminated one given the way you have been behaving in the last 50 or so years…

      • Sumaa

        Ustaz Admas, Low samaHt mumkin tarjamat Aljuze’ Alawal min radak.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Salam Admas;

        They say, fabricated allegation often say more about their initiators than they do about the target subjects. I feel terribly low when I argue these sort of remarks. I don’t take you as representing Ethiopians; all it tells me is the serious level of your sickness. I pray for you. Now, I don’t want to leave you without according you Eritrean hospitality (by the way, I know Ethiopian hospitality too, and I am grateful to many good Ethiopian friends), here is a nice song, in case if you are bothering who this Eritrean species is. Sorry, I have to post it twice today. I just love it. Remember today is w/end so easy ” ye meznagna gzie new.”

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3UxJtEFqo

      • Nitricc

        Admas, what up?
        i was going to say a word or two but what is the point. even after the Eritreans dumbed you with their two ports; still you can not even administered by your self to your self, so much so, the Eritreans had to do the job. now, can you tell me how many Eritreans are in your EPDEF? my point is before you trush the Eritreans, give their props for still bending you on your own country. imagine, they have already got their country leaving you land lacked and still are owining you. any thought about this? i don’t think so. so, when you hear an Eritrean says I AM GOOD, there is a merit for it. and for a matter of fact nothing wrong with saying i am good! if you are not that ignorant Tesfaye G/Ab was born in Deberzite and by law he an Oromo. so, nothing wrong if the Oromo extended to him an honorary citizenship. one more point you faile to understand is Tesfaye is the one courageously who wrote Ye-Burqa Zimita. so the Oromo owes Tesfaye. again did you understand your best Amharic writer is an Eritrean? i don’t know where to stop. chill out man. you sound Gebru Asrat. stupid!
        just food for thought.

    • Rodab

      Hey Fetima, Rahwa, and now Admas,
      What’s going on?! Why are you all working so hard to paint us bad image? Sure, we have bad apples, and even though it might be hard for you to acknowledge, you have bad apples of your own too.
      Please keep your private chats and jokes to yourself. Bringing immature and divisive remarks to public forums do not help with anything. What are you trying to accomplish anyway?

      • Mahmud Saleh

        salam rodab;
        ሎምስ ተኻኢሉና ጨብራቕረቕ ኮይኑ ሮዳበይ. ምስ ቖልዑ ንቛየቐሉ ግዜ መጺኡ።

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Mahmuday,
          Lenkenes endie, wudie, wudie yibleka alo mesleni. Keep going on big brother. There is a force that we are dealing with and if we allow enough room (be it because we want peace, or be it reconciliatory) the drift is always high. I appreciate your very reconciliatory approach, equally, I can imagine how hard it is for you to provide them with “deldala begie” They demand more and when they do so it is not honest but their business. And business is business, there is a risk. those who are invited to have a good lunch again want another lunch hence always chasing you to be in a non-stable mood. This is their objective. From their objective, a mission is built. Their mission is to create chaos. To accomplish this, they have a simple strategy; “kill any idea flow.” Consequently, awate.com and great minded forumers are the target. I can see this dear Mahmuday.

          Dear Mahmuday and @haileTG:disqus, let the kids play outside your circle. Confession: I am against reconciliatory approach towards PFDJ. This makes them safe not to get angry and be it a kid or not, all are in the same basket, “chasing them out.” Same is also with some bad intentioned individuals from Ethiopian side. Ok, for the Ethiopians, it is simple: “Ignore them” because they are uninvited guests.
          keep your energy straight Mahmuday. We want it.
          hawkum
          tes

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Awatistas,

    When I read comments like that of dawit and L.T, I always think beyond politics. I want to know how cruel mind are they occupied with. As we all know, PFDJ’s anti-humanistic campaign is every where. But, it becomes beyond any limit when their duty follows every path of victimized Eritreans.

    Let me quote some of dawit’s words. He wrote, “Those in my town they were not looking for I-Pads, perhaps most of them in my town are poor, but they told me that were looking a drink of Coke, because there is sever shortages of these drinks in Eritrea”

    Ok, let it be as he said. But, when are these people searching for coca cola? Aren’t they after they get a place to stay? Can’t dawit ask very basic thing that first ecery human being has a right to be treated humanly? Those Eritreans in Belgium are not getting even to search coca. Searching is usually done when there is a station, or a reference, a bench mark. Those Eritreans are in search of basic station. How can he make fun of using such idiot comments? Dawit, how cruel he is against humanity? This news is not about leaving Eritrea or searching something that really missed. It is basic human rights search. Those Eritreans came by any means to Belgium. No sane human being can be happy for their flee but sure every one will be happy for being alive.

    @L.T; always you are here when news concerning victimized Eritreans is broadcasted. And you come here to show your cruel attitude. Dear L.T, are you talking about identity, According to PFDJ, yes you are right, identity is based on politics. I will not be surprised when you usher such words. Let it be as you said first and I will ask you. Did Belgium is asking for their identity? Or, better, in your virtual address, Sweden, are the Swedish government is hesitant about the asylum seekers refugees identity? Why don’t you go and help them to identify who is who. Why every Eritrean is in question of his identity while he is in problem?

    dawit and L.T, ask yourself and remember that you were and are still refugees. No one choses to be a refugee but id it happens, he or she needs protection. Deporting is against humanity.

    let’s have a recent incident; South Sudanese refugees returned to their home country once they taught that the long awaited free and independent country was born. I think, no one dreamt such bloody civil war will happen again but it happened and is happening. Was it safe then to deport those refugees back to an uncertain place?

    Italy is home of thousands refugees and among these thousands are Eritreans. Italy called for European community for help and she almost left the refugees to search their destiny. No house, no food and no protection. Can you think then these refugees will be safe in outskirts of Italian streets? It is a natural process for those refugees to search a place where they it is safe and so did they do to Belgium. Why then, Belgium, the headquarter of EU, is not giving them a protection? This is basic human right. No one choses to be a refugee but it happens the international community has a responsibility to take care of them.

    hawkum
    tes

    • dawit

      TES, you can call me any thing you want the devil, satan that pleases you but you will not change the situation of these young people stuck in refugee camps in various countries!

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        dawit, what do you mean when you say, “you will not change the situation of…”?
        are you meant to say that it will be like what it is now for ever?

        • dawit

          Hi tes forget about ‘forever’ staff think about today and tomorrow. The famous economist of the 20th Century John Menard Keynes wrote “In the long run we are all dead” Watch the following video. What practical advice would you give your Eritrean sister, with three
          children and no husband and no money being threatened to be evicted by the
          people she trusted from her only roach infested apartment in a dilapidated shelter , sharing a
          single toilet with 100 people! She can’t afford to send her hungry children to school.
          http://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89166

          Please tes. cut the spices to your answer, I will save you time I admit I am the piece of the
          devil you don’t have to speculate what kind of mind I have. Just concentrate on
          your practical advice to your sisters and brothers, the majority them who have
          similar stories scattered from Africa to Middle East and Europe. Give them your educated advice which can change or turn around their lives. These refugees don’t have the luxury of time to wait ‘forever’ for the opposition to organize itself and overthrow the present Eritrean government.
          hawka
          dawit

  • dawit

    Aweta:
    Those in my town they were not looking for I-Pads, perhaps most of them in my town are poor, but they told me that were looking a drink of Coke, because there is sever shortages of these drinks in Eritrea. Since there is shortages of foreign exchanges the bottling company is unable to import enough sugar to make the soft drink but plenty of Coke across the border in Ethiopia and Sudan! You can read my response to Haile GT if you want to read an expanded version of my respond to you.
    Smile

  • Abinet

    LT the all time Great!!!
    When I was young , my father used to take me to the market to buy sheep . And every time before asking the price he checks the teeth of the sheep . One day I asked him why he does this all the time . He told me it is to check if the sheep is young or old . Now, you are telling me the Government of Sweeden checks the teeth if they are really Eritreans.
    I wonder if my father is able to determine which region the sheep came from by checking it’s teeth .
    Next time I meet an eritrean , I will check his teeth if his is different from mine .

    • Fetima Dechasa

      Akkam Abinet,

      Hahaha you are hilarious. A diaspora born Eritrean whom I met at UCSD once told me that it is very easy to differentiate Eritreans from Ethiopians. When I asked him how the guy told me that in comparison Eritreans are taller, lighter in complexion, smarter, well read, more civilized, and better looking than us. I laughed so hard in the middle of the conference hall. He even gave me an example of Meles and Isayas LOL. Funny enough he was even darker than I. Pure comedy I tell you.

      • Abinet

        No wonder meles used the color of their eyes to …..

        • Nitricc

          Abinet, you are a backward retarded racist. I understand what can I expect from ye-weyane aqatari to former Derg soldier? Nothing? Get the F out of here. What a losser.
          Fatuma, come on. you can do better than that.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Nitricc,

            You spew a lot of mean spirited things about us but you fly off the handle when we express our accounts? Why so vulgar and uncouth? I don’t have to do any better because both you and I know for a fact that Eritreans have gone to extreme length to differentiate themselves from Ethiopia, which is totally fine. But before you lose your marbles, I can give you many example of this from my own personal observation of schooling in the Bay Area. If you are familiar with the area, you’d remember that Cafe Eritrea, Asseb, Asmera, etc removed the ‘Ethiopia and East Africa’ from their signs in the early 2000s but amusingly they all now say “Eritrean & Ethiopian” restaurant.

            Your fellow Eritrean I mentioned above stated that just because a white guy said he couldn’t tell the difference between the two people. BTW he is the only Eritrean resident at USCD La Jolla Hospital so you can ask him for yourself if you like :).

          • saay7

            Selamat Fetima:

            Hmmm, this has all the makings of the “Eritrea became the largest coffee exporter” mythology:)

            If you google Cafe Eritrea d’afrique or Asmara Restaurant, you will see a consistent description–even in 1999. Now, it is true, Bay Areans (at the hight of the crazy season) did “boycott” some restaurants because so-and-so is related to so-and-so and every money you give them goes to Weyane rationale, but that is no different than the craziness of, say, the Ethiopian football federation in the US kicking out Eritreans from its team because they had Eritrean ancestry. Actually, what the Ethiopian football federation was worse because it kicked out TEAM members.

            Since you are a local, we can discuss all of this at Cafe Eritrea d’afrique one weekend:)

            Nitricc, speaking of restaurants, I may have that will top your unusual experience. In San Diego, there are two Ethiopian restaurants. One is called “Muzito Bistro–Abyssinian cuisine”. Well, it sounded authentic enough so I was there. Here’s its menu

            http://www.letseat.at/muzita/menu

            Host: not Ethiopian or Eritrean.
            Waitress: not Ethiopian or Eritrean
            waiter: not Ethiopian or Eritrean

            The first entry in the menu (vegetarian dish) is: Shiro: Eritrean Style Seasoned Ground Chickpeas. An elderly couple next to me got all confused on the difference between Eritrea, Ethiopia and Abyssinia. So the waitress (not Eritrean/nor Ethiopian) had a perfect explanation for Abyssinia. She said, “it is like saying Babylon or Levant.” Bingo. And the whole time I was thinking, “I wish Eyob was here: he would finally get it: that is what Abyssinia (Habesha) is: like Babylon or Levant.

            The food? Ummm… people have to make a living so none of your business.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            No..No..No…Abysinian is NOT babylon or Levant…(let’s discuss that Abysinians have some Levant in them, some other time)… Being Habesha is not something that is a relic from old biblical era. Being Habesha is being a uniquely identified culture, religions, food dress, character and above all a POLITICAL BEING that still have an influence not in one but two countries. Tell me please that “babylon” has all that I have described above in this 21st century? Or the Levant, other than ISIS’ crazy claim over them how much are they are they known, talked about and have an impact in this 21st century? See Abysinians endured all sort of plot to make them extinct and survived for so many centuries with their belief system, customs, traditions and unique characters intact…That sets them apart from damn babylonians 🙂 The waitress should not quit her day job that is waitressing in a horrible restaurant, instead of delving into describing people, which she had no clue about…. Now I am done venting… 🙂

          • Abinet

            Now we have three ways of differentiating an eritrean from an ethiopian.
            Color of an eye, teeth, use of dirty language .
            I have been waiting for some matured awatista like Mahmud to say something about your language . Since I do not see anything yet , I assume it is an accepted way of communicating in eritrea .

      • Rahwa T

        Hi Fetima,

        You reminded me my teen-age friend who used to me “we (meaning Eritreans) have sharp nose, well-built physique, and other good qualities” as factors that differentiate them from us. That was so funny. But years have passed since then and I hope he has matured by now and might have noticed the picture of the people surrounding him. As the Amharic adage goes “bedereq erTib yinedal “the modern day adult-“kids” are repeating the same mistakes. But thanks God we have also nice guys from Mereb Milash such as Hayat, Haile, Amanuel, Semere, Kokheb selam. You guys have to take care not to include them with the bad apples.

  • dawit

    Selam to all
    “However, most Eritreans believe that “The removal of the regime is the only way that can
    limit the escape of Eritreans from their country, and that Italy should know better”.
    A genius argument! By the way Who are these ‘most Eritreans? Does this reliable statistics from AT includes those Eritreans who are dancing in the Saudi Arabia Embassy Night Clubs or those attending world wide ‘Eritrean Festivals’from
    Toronto to Melbourne, from Bologna to Washington DC, to Seattle”. This must be a convenient argument of those
    who seek regime change in Eritrea, to use the plight of poor Eritrean refugees to use them as a ladder to power.
    I wonder again
    dawit

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Dawitom,

      A wondering mind is a seeker consequently your mind is guiding you to seek the truth though it is hard to fight with a doctrine you are washed in.

      Indeed, removal of the regime is the only solution.

      For me, what makes me to wonder is when PFDJ reports from every Koboro junky goers minority gathering. Minority, here indicates for the shrinking number of PFDJ festival applauders and those who are guided by the PFDJ system of administration.

      hawka
      tes

    • haileTG

      Hello dawit (the thinker:)

      You asked:

      By the way Who are these ‘most Eritreans?

      These “most Eritreans” include the hundreds of thousands sitting in refugee camps, the millions that are ready to abandon the country inside Eritrea, the majority of the close to 1.7 million Eritrean diaspora (90%) have nothing to do with PFDJ gimmick “celebrated with patriotic zeal” festivals or “expressed readiness to mount a staunch resistance against external conspiracies” meetings. Most of the half a million who left would tell you (to justify the risks of the high seas and deserts) that “staying in Eritrea is death, trying to leave is 50/50”

      Sadly, dawit, you have a limited view of Eritrea, i.e. PFDJ, that of Eritrean, i.e. a flag garbed PFDJ operative, and Eritrean life, i.e. the life of the dictator (not even his cronies or fellow PFDJ operatives). With such narrow definition, you might as well argue that “what migration, there was never one after PFDJ took over!” because most of those people you describe are people from the ghedli era or those tied down by personal benefit, or even just there to have fun and not part of the special “the mekhedte task force” who mingle with the unsuspecting crowed to wave placards that were written without participation of the majority (like nhna nsu).

      Regards

      • dawit

        Haderka Haile The Great

        I was preparing to respond to you on what you wrote last night the story of the poor
        Eritrean sister and her children plight on her sad situation in Malta. And this morning I wrote a comment on another sad story at AT from Belgium, asking ‘Who are the great majority Eritreans, and you also responded to that. Since the two stories are related I am responding here for both comments.

        http://mereja.com/forum/viewto..
        .
        You wrote “The lady in your video was so valued to feature in a news network and before you know it she will be means assessed, her kids sent to school and be given more assistance. There are many examples of those and here you chose an unrepresentative item. What is wrong
        dawit, don’t you like our people or something:)”

        Dear Haile, I can reverse your question and ask you the same question, What is wrong
        (dawit) Haile, don’t you like our people or something?

        First she is typical Eritrean refugees that are flooding the refugee camps everywhere. Obviously
        she did not tell the UNHCR that she fled Eritrea because of disagreement with
        her stepmother. She must have told them she fled Eritrea, that she was raped
        and put to prison by Eritrean soldiers, for praying in her home reading and
        studying the Bible. Then one day she run away, while the prison guards were
        drunk and sleep. I travelled for several days through the desert of Sahel to
        reach the border. At the border I run away while the soldiers firing behind me
        and bullets were flying over my head, thank Jesus I crossed the border safely
        and here I am another refugee from Eritrea want to go to Israel, Europe or
        America where there is democracy and freedom of worship. The refugee officer
        records her case and feed it to UN refugee statistics and she is allowed to
        stay in the refugee camp in Sudan or Ethiopia, with a killo of flour and a
        bottle of cooking oil her monthly ration. Being idle in the camp biological
        desire kicks in and make a couple of babies, and one day she picks her children
        and start her journey through the desert, crosses the sea with leaky boat, and
        Jesus she made it safe to Malta. The Malta government register her another
        refugee from Eritrea, give her shelter and few pounds for her food and appeal
        to EU and UN for assistance to maintain her body and soul in a dilapidated
        refugee holding area while they wait to some wealthy Northern European country
        in the mean time they want to kick her out of the shelter or pay rent from her
        meager allowance they gave her. So she is desperate with her children and
        asking for help and Haile the Great the Eritrean advocate of his people advise
        her not to worry, the authorities are going to means assessed’ her situation and
        her kids will be sent to school and be given more assistance!. I am really
        ashamed with your chilling responses to your Eritrean sister and her children appeal
        for help! If I were in your place I would have advised her to pack herself and
        children return to her country and live a dignified life than to stay in Malta
        with cockroaches.

        Now Haile the great and all those who claim to be justice seekers her at AT, let me include this to my response above. It has been a decade since Awate.com dedicated itself as a mouth piece of the opposition voices against the Eritrean government headed by Isaias and the PFDJ.
        Over the years this website has written several articles colored with millions of insults to the
        Eritrean government and its followers. If insults could change a government the
        Eritrean government would have disappeared in thin air or dissolved like salt
        in water without a trace. But in spite of the several thousand articles condemning
        the government it is still standing. If you really believe that this government in
        Eritrea does not represent the wishes of ‘The Great Majority’ of the Eritrean
        people and you want justice, then do what the Great Awate and his followers did, pick
        your guns and confront the government. That was what several thousands of
        Tegadelti did, and that what Isaias did. They did not travel 10000 miles away
        and wrote insults or beg the UN to sanction Haile Selassie, Megistu or
        Ethiopia. In today’s Eritrea there is no shortage of arms, like that of Awate’s
        time, the government itself is giving arms for free and you can also get it for
        free your share if you wished, but you have to go Eritrea to get it to change the government.
        You should learn from Burkina Faso opposition leaders who led their people to rise up against their
        dictator who was fully armed and protected by France and his local army for three decades. It took them only two days and were armed with a couple of matches sticks and clubs. So my friend Haile if
        you can’t do that, then leave the people alone, do not incite or mislead them to abandon
        their poor country with false promises that they will be ‘ means assessed” and
        get financial assistance from foreign governments as refugees. Let the people stay at home and
        deal with their dictatorial rules and laws of their country. Therefore if all “Justice Seekers” here at AT believe you are the followers of Idris Awate to struggle against the injustices of your people, and you are sure that the people are behind you, then why are you wasting your time writing insults sitting behind a keyboard for decades? I wonder again!
        dawit

        watch this video again http://mereja.com/forum/viewto

        • Semere Andom

          Hi dawit
          I have a question: when did you change your mind about H. I. Awate as a founding father of the armed struggle? All PFDJ supporters consider him someone who rebelled in search of his camel that the Ethiopian soldiers killed?
          That is why Pushkin bit him in securing a status in a prime location in Eritrea
          You are recommending a violent uprising and armed struggle if the justice seekers have guts, that event will materialize on its choosing, now putting aside your endless disdain of the people of Eritrea for telling their harrowing stories, will you be ready to defend the regime if an armed struggles engulfs Eritrea or will you be claiming your “Ethiopianness” by the right of your birth and abandoning the “majority” of Eritreans who are behind their government to sort and duke it out?
          What motivates you to hate those who are suffering under the regime you support so much, it cannot be love of the regime as someone who is capable of loving cannot simultaneously hate so much. I have a good guess, it is the “Iscariot” phenomenon
          Sem

          • dawit

            SEM you never failed to surprise me with invention of, yesterday I was the Prophet dawit and today you baptized me Iscariot’! I am not to start a controversy of why there is a statue of Pushkin and not for Awate. May be there are 65,000 Awates that have sacrificed their life for Eritrea, and you see their Monuments throughout the country. But in any case you have to direct that question directly to PFDJ or its Head.

            will you be ready to defend the regime if an armed struggles engulfs Eritrea or will you be claiming your “Ethiopianness” by the right of your birth and abandoning the “majority” of Eritreans who are behind their government to sort and duke it out?

            To tell you the truth I am not going to defend the regime. I will stand on the side and clap and if you are successful I will join you in Asmara on your street dance celebration at Godena Harnet or I don’t know what you will call it then (Meles? Susan Rice? Sheila Keethauth?). But trust me I will join you in your victory celebration! I am addicted to Kebero and Dance!

          • Semere Andom

            Hi dawit:
            First we will not name our streets after foreigners that is PFDJ’s domain and you guys who support it at the expense of the poor people by playing to their national emotions and denying their servitude with your blessing. Godna Harnet will remain so, people are fighting PFDJ not to reverse our independence as your newly discovered soul mate, Ab Hanibal accuses us of, people are fighting it to preserve our territorial sovereignty, which PFDJ is endangering We will not call it Melles nor Isaias. That is your low level attack on all freedom fighters, if Melles was going to have a street named after him, he missed his chance by humiliating PFDJ, it was under PFDJ that he had that chance.
            Now what is your logic of because there are more than 65, 000 Awates, PFDJ opted to give it to Pushkin instead of H.I Awate so that to be fair??
            On your admission of kebero and dance addiction , I credit you for that rare moment of integrity and honesty, if your repeat it enough, it may become a an entrenched habit.
            thanks
            Sem

          • dawit

            Hi SEM,
            Thank God! I dont have to learn another new name for Godena Harnet. Thank SEM for asuring me that you will not change the name of my favorite street in Asmara after you victory over PIA. I was extreemly worried that I may have to change the address of my villa, since it has become a customry to change the name of that street, with every new government! Thanks again SEM that was a big favor from your Excellency!.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hailat,

          I could understand two things from dawit’s argument (a) He recognized that the regime is a dictatorial regime when he said “let the people stay at home and deal with their dictatorial rules and laws of their country”. (b) He wanted us to be pragmatic and to have action oriented struggle, when he invoked the determination of Idris Awate and his colleagues as exemplary. What Dawit has to go further and admit in order to be genuine is (a) to recognize that the cause of the continuous exodus of our young generation is the excessive oppression and hopelessness on what the future holds for them under the current regime (b) Knowing the nature of the regime be able to condemn and call spade a spade on the regime. Once dawit come forcefully on these two point, I will graciously take his criticism.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel

            Hi Amanuel, I don’t change my flag that easily. Remember I am the one who says ‘Zebereke
            Tsehaina Zenegese Negusna’ be it a dictator or a democrat or republican. I
            never denied that the Isaias government was not a dictatorial regime. And Amanuel be
            assured when you become King Amanuel I of Eritrea, I will sing the same song that I
            am singing for King Isaias I.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dawit,

            Do you mean you never denied that issayas was and is a dictatorial regime when you say “I never denied that the Isaias government was not a dictatorial regime.”? Otherwise you are contradicting yourself. By the way ‘ZeberekeTsehaina Zenegese Negusna’ as a stand shows someone who is submissive to anything whether it is bad or good. Or someone who hasn’t an instinct to fight against bad. Or someone who hasn’t the gut to fight for progress and positive change. Or someone who hasn’t qualms to endure graciously the evils of oppression. Am I right dawit?

            Amanuel Hidrat

        • haileTG

          Selam dawit,

          As regards the gathering winds of change, I wouldn’t like to insult you intelligence by stating the obvious. Things are so advanced now, all that is needed is people to switch from resisting individually to resisting as organized groups. The Eritrean opposition has come a long way in the last decade, the total dominance of the PFDJ Bologna adventure and what transpired there attests to the current balance of power, youth fellowship and international clout. Burkinabe’s did it in 27, I think we will beat them by leaps and bounds. Remember, determined opposition only started some 12 or so years ago. The one before it is really an old medda left over conflicts and some small sect ethnic or religious opposition. Of course, few were HR based opposition, but hard to call them organized resistance. In 12 short years, IA has been firmly put on his death bed and counting his days. That is something that should be a source of immense pride to all justice seekers out there. Victory is guaranteed.

          On the point of argument you make to discredit the integrity of the desperate refugees flocking out of the country, I can only ask you if you believe there is due process in PFDJ justice, if there is normal employment rights, if there is security from external armed groups and a war mongering terrorist regime, if there is more policing and less arms on civilian hands, if there is reasonable match between income and inflation, if there is peace of mind that your children would be safe…

          Dear dawit, the matter is already out of control and the extent of the crisis has become a major crisis. You have of course resisted to sympathize with their sufferings and reverting to polemical counter arguments that is nothing more than self deception. My call to you is if you could please remember that two generations down the road your children and grand children would look back at this horrendous times of the Eritrean history. If they ever come to learn about your lack of sympathy, lack of humanity, lack of defense of the defenseless that you portrayed in your life time towards that suffering, they will lose respect for you, they will judge that you were part of the problem and they will not be proud but ashamed of the position you took in the detraction of their country. They will applaud those who struggled, those who came to the defense, those who stood for truth and justice. They will not blame them on the time it took or routes traveled to free the embattled people, but praise its cause and ultimate triumph.

          Think of life, people, families, individual stories, attachments, emotions, aspirations, plans, need for security, opportunity and betterment, rights, identities…. take those, believe in those, serve those, be a force of good for those. The true purpose of life is to live it and manifest it in all its beauties and challenges. Why live for a man made system and be on the way of the natural flow of human needs for all those.

          Regards