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The Flow of More Ethiopian Refugees Exasperates the Situation in Sudan

Reported by ME

Sudan News Agency (SUNA) reported that until July 27, 2021, about 3,000 Ethiopian refugees from the Amhara region crossed the Eastern Sudanese border. SUNA also said the flow of refugees is continuing to the village of Taya in Basanda locality.

Since November 2020, Sudan received more than 60,000 Tigrayan refugees who are staying in the Um Rakouba and Al-Tunaidba camps in Gedarif state, as well as thousands of others in the Hamdayit and Al-Hashabeh reception centers.

Eastern Sudan has been the refugee of hundreds of thousands of Eritreans and Ethiopians since the 1960s when tens of thousands of Eritreans sought refuge in Sudan. Half a century later, they are still housed in refugee camps.

The last Ethiopian refugees represent the largest number crossing into Sudan in a single day since November 2020, when the Ethiopian Federal army launched war on the Tigray region.

Refugee conflict feared

The recent refugees from Tigray and Amhara regions are now concentrated in the Sudanese state of Gedarif where the Sudanese authorities are facing a security challenge because the refugees belong to different Ethiopian warring ethnicities. Authorities are worried the spill refugees might bring their woes to the Sudan and fight each other off in its territories.

There is complete blackout in northern Ethiopia has caused a huge influx of refugees from these parts to Sudan indicating the battles have spread to wider parts. Observers believe unless there is a breakthrough for dialogue between the warring Ethiopians, the influx of refugees will keep increasing in number.

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  • sara

    selamat all,
    As the article is about ethio refuges in Sudan etc… and its implications… i want also to share with you a report in shark al-Awsat Arabic news paper , that refuges or migrants are being recruited to fight along the Houthis in the Yemen war, and it explicitly says Ethiopian migrants. it also says for those Ethiopians who died fighting along the Houthis there was an official funeral ceremony held recently and broadcasted in Houthis run tv channel.
    it seems the woes of ethiopian migrants are never ending, and those of you on the know
    try to help them with the UN or other institutions active in Yemen.

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. The Head of USAID has accused the TPLF of mass looting of humanitarian aid:
    “We know for a fact… that the TPLF (Tigray People’s Liberation Front), every town they’ve gone into they looted the warehouses, they’ve looted trucks, they’ve caused a great deal of destruction in all the villages they visited and it’s a great concern for humanitarians,” Sean Jones, head of the USAID mission in Ethiopia, told Ethiopian state television EBC.

    “I do believe that TPLF has been very opportunistic. Maybe they are stealing from citizens, we don’t have proof of this”.

    “What we do have proof of is that several of our warehouses have been looted and completely emptied in the areas, particularly Amhara, the TPLF soldiers have gone into”.

    • Dongolo

      Selam all. I guess you all must now be wondering why the U.S. is not placing sanctions on the TPLF?

      • haileTG

        Selam Dongolo,

        I don’t know why you truncated the news which reads:

        “Any interference or theft of humanitarian aid is unacceptable and prevents critical assistance from reaching people in need. Unfortunately, since the beginning of the conflict in northern Ethiopia, we’ve seen instances of looting from all parties,” a USAID spokesperson said.

        To your question:

        1 – the US didn’t place sanctions on any party for theft of food

        2 – there is a legal precedent that happened in Italy. A hungry man stole cheese and sausage and appeared in court. The court ruled that a theft of food motivated by extreme hunger doesn’t count as a crime.

        • Dongolo

          Selam haileTG. You need to be a more attentive in your reading for I did not even mention ‘food’ but rather ‘humanitarian aid’ and what I have directly copied and pasted from France 24, is fully consistent with what other major news networks are reporting; anyone can read it with their own eyes. You are not using a direct quote from the USAID Head are you? Regarding U.S. sanctions, we know in the past that the U.S. doesn’t even need any evidence to justify sanctions or for that matter a war. Maybe best that you concentrate less on defending TPLF Generals’ propensity to eat stolen relief baby food and consider the other atrocities that the TPLF has committed on Eritrean refugees, Afar and the Ahmara such as rape, murder, arson of schools, mass pillage and looting, etc.

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            Yes, anyone who does those should be sanctioned. Food warehouse can be understandable even if not good. 7000 schools, 70% of health facilities, almost all of manufacturing and investment ventures destroyed and tools taken away, cut off from all services for a year, including blocking aid…is what has happened to the pe6of Tigray. I understand you are not bothered by any of that but deeply saddened by some baby biscuits or what ever it is you think is missing in Amhara. I am telling you that if US does what you are asking for, IA and PMAA would be in ICC and the war long over.

          • Peace!

            Hi Dengolo

            I think admitting itself seems a sign of second thought given rescuing, feeding and equipping darling TPLF, not the poor Tigrayans, has been the priority of the mission. Things are changing fast to the extent someone begins to realize we live in a drone warfare and digital communication world that the old days fighting style are gone. B’koreta Addis Ena Asmera Le Medress Metagel is a sad hallucination.

            On separate note, TPLF has refused to form an inclusive transitional regional government that represents all stakeholders (TDF). Mahari Yohannes has already apologized to the Tigray People for siding with TPLF and moves on.

            Peace!

          • haileTG

            Selam Peace,

            I listened to MY interview because I didn’t know him much but his name was mentioned several times by some Eritreans here and in other social media. Firstly, it is good that he can air that kind of strong views while in Tigray. That is a good bases for opening political space for all view points. Imagine what happened for minor criticism of IA by G-15?? I hope the Tigrayans fight for the inclusion of all stake holders in their region’s political arenas. If they do so, it would mean that they didn’t only showed us how to unite and fight for their rights but also how to preserve, protect and promote fundamental rights while doing so.

            On MY, I see him as highly motivated and passionate about his cause. He needs deeper political, grassroots and diplomatic foundations to build on his aspirations.

          • Peace!

            Hi Hailuwa,

            Can’t agree more. They are way ahead of us, no doubt about that.

            Peace!

          • iSem

            Hi Haile TG and Peace and AH:
            Here is the synopsis I wrote yesterday under the awate article about MY and he did not talk about his Tigray Tigirniga, but his criticism against TPLF and as Peace said his apology was telling about his convictions. He basically said that TPLF is groupie family business and their last lack of vision brought Tigray to this danger. He said, TPLF has hijacked the real 17 year struggle that the people paid of for dearly
            He said that TPLF has no vision and are have not made their stand on Tigray independence, they just gloss over it by saying, “the people will decide” and he asked what will TPLF be promoting when referendum is held. It is an excellent interview
            and he said, TPLF will try to use to using 03 but that is fine because there is no killing. He his parting words to TMH was, “yilmedkum” to interview opposing views
            Even the second interview of General Dr Teklebrhan regarding internal Tigray issues was excellent

            Hi All:
            professor Mehari Yohannes of W.H .T takes on TPLF, puts his vision, reiterates his previous ideas.
            Our enemies have not changed their behavior, the problem is ours, we always conspire with our enemies against ourselves. What happened to us now has happened many times before, the problem is our flawed vision, flawed reading of history , flawed world view, unclear political view point. We bought tanks gave it to Ethiopia to use it against our people, what we accomplished for 17 years of sacrifices we squandered it in AA. We built the Ethiopian Empire that was poised to destroy us and we believed that the constitution that we left in AA would safe us, we believed the other ethnicity would safe us.
            I like to apologized for not pushing hard to air my views. I have not said this publicly before but I have being telling the leadership to train stronger military to prepare for this inevitable event that attempted to destroy us and we were told we were hard hardliners.
            He also revealed his group left to the filed before TPLF by one day

            He also said that there is no way to save Ethiopia by working with OLA and the likes, if TPLF is doing that for tactical purposes, I am not going to support that because I live with principles.
            Now PFDJ, before you criticize USA, UK and other civilized nations, allow YG, SGJ, iSem to air their views in Asmara and I will respect your stand.
            Sorry SGJ, I put you between YG and iSem, so I catch myself and say YG, AH, SGJ,HTG and iSem 🙂

          • haileTG

            Great Summary iSem!

            Now MY, I understand, has a small party he belongs to. The independence of Tigray also seems the central rallying point of his party. The idea of independence is a popular sentiment among the people, but convincing them to decide to do so seems way off at this time. TPLF is for all purposes and intents the vanguard political entity in Tigray. It has most of Tigray’s decorated army officers and a well connected political establishment at its disposal. It is very difficult to get off the ground with a political agenda in Tigray while bracing to go toe to toe against the region’s [Tigray] dominant political and security entity. MY needs to find a way to sell his ideas to powerful members of TPLF who can defect to his group with their support base. Else, he can first support, as a pro independence, party the successful completion of the current stand off with the Ethiopian state. His call to inclusive political leadership is also valid IMHO because if Tigray needed inclusive military muscle to resist the current military invasion, surely it can work with inclusive political leadership to pave the way forward too. What is the point of being inclusive for the war and exclusive for power? That seems his reasons to appear as bitter as he was about the whole of TPLF.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Mehari Yohannes – the proponent of Tigray-tigrini, has never been a supporter of TPLF. He joined TDF in the current fight and has nothing to apologize, unless he is apologizing for joining TDF in the current United front of Tigrian people. Just for the record.

            Regard

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            That’s exactly my understanding. He joined TDF in the hope TPLF would learn from its mistakes and form an inclusive regional transitional government, but TPLF is not ready to admit its monopoly and share power.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            This guy’s platform is for independent Tigray, if you remember in their debate on their regional election in 2019. Now he is Asking “Transitional government” while they are on a bloody war for the survival? It means the guy is not serious about the current plight of the tigrian people. If power is all in his mind at any circumstance, then he has to change his political platform, join Abiy’s government and the Amara key bahrachin to satisfy his urges. Who in his right mind at this critical juncture of war for survival, talks about power sharing? Wow! I haven’t heard his interview to give the right assessment of his mind. I am just using your info, for now until I listen to his interview,

            Regard

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            I anticipated that this will happen, but I also thought MY critical harsh but truthful criticism were little too, just a little early now. But I disagree with you that it is all about power and on your take that it is not timely. He is keeping TPLF accountable, so they can think straight at this time when TPLF is little vulnerable, and prepare the people.
            He is right that TPLF myopia, hubris has almost brought Tigray to extinction and one of he issues was not allowing diverse views to be included in the governance.
            They are not in the dungeons now, they are in Mekelle, doing the same things like before according to MY. If you think about it, they can chew a gum and walk at the same time, if they do it civilly I do not think it will undermine their struggle, otherwise wait till we free our country is like the EPLF and PFDJ book, first let us kick our enemies, then let us demarcate, then let us do development.
            Emma, I disagree with you. He is calling for a Tigray council that includes all parties to decide the future of Tigray and to the point of even what questions will be asked if ref is held, he said TPLF’s ideas should not be the only that matter even they have been elected
            Just because one party is elected and has majority, they should not decide everything, that is called the tyranny of the majority by proxy 🙂

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            This guy consider himself a politician. A politician has to know when and how to approach crises of epic proportions. If you believe his criticism is too early, that is precisely what I am saying. I am not saying he shouldn’t criticize TPLF. As a matter of fact Tigrians are by far ahead of us in politics. And when we aren’t good in our own politics, it doesn’t give us good appearance to criticize the Tigrian politics. I will try to find his interview to listen at it this evening after work

            Regard

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            The people are not always right, the majority is not always right, I actually do no tike majority governments. So yes, people could have hated us talking about unity movement in 1998, but that is right thing to do.
            Granted MY is not in government, but his party got 1% votes, meaning about 300,000 people voted for his party and there should be a way to incorporate this. I believe that if election is held now, he will do better
            But the point is the wait till we do X is silly, so he is right to talk about TPLF’s ambivalence about Tigray’s separation and their tactics with 03 as he said. Unless you believe majority views should dictate. without bipartisan debate. With out debate allowing parties is meaningless.
            Fine, they allowed parties, but he is right to ask for a council to debate and discuss the choice he is saying. Even the second interview with Teklebhran is decent, regarding th issue of Tigray. So TPLF is not going to be the Alpha and Omega of Tigray politics an that is good for Tigray, if TPLF wants to do its old game, then they will pay for it again, it is not just about separation, it is about what TPFL stands for, it is their conglomerate , family party, that looks after the interest of a few
            So listen to it first and then tell me if you still do not like it

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            Few points to your comment. If you hate the majority rule, then you will be against democracy, for democracy is the rule of majority. You can’t be democratic being against the majority.

            Second, in governing there are always priority agendas to work on depending on the need of the people. You can not be against the concept “priorities” but you could argue whether the agenda that are picked as priorities are legitimate priorities.

            Third, because TPLF had not “independence” in their vision does not mean they had not vision. Actually, they had. He could disagree on their visions. That is legitimate as an opposition in a pluralistic democracy.

            Fourth, on the the current leadership of the Tigray people, ditto my reply to Peace. The general command comprise from the political and military elites. So the guy is not a “situation sensitive guy” in his politics.

            Regard

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            I did not say I hate majority rule, I said majority government. two different things Emma
            Are you not concerned what TPLF does to dampen opposing ideas? For example, they told Woyane Natsenet Tigray, MY’s party to not hold certain meeting and ideas, it is not its time, but they go and do it themselves, that sound PFDJ to me
            You first need to listen to him, then we can debate it, you are shooting in the dark,
            You may have a point about the timing, a little bit.
            You did not get what I said about the independence: when TPLF says, ppl will decide, MY answer was he wants to know what TPLF stand is, what will they advertise for independence or against it during ref. They are not clarifying their stand, it doe snot have to be pro separation, if they clarify that then others will politically address that and challenge them,
            so is your issue only on timing? And does it concern you for a political party in power to not clearly identify its position? Ok, they can decide to be coy bout it like ppl will decide, but MY and others have the right to attack them on that point, that is my point and that is what MY said
            And do not buy into the notion that of its time has not come, they can do both now. He was on TV before too after they liberated Mekelle and they were in Amhara region, but he did not say all this things, he talked about the war, the resilience etc, now he feels it is the time and the lady asked and she quoted him and and he told it as it is
            You should be jealous Emma 🙂

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            There is no “majority government” as such, unless majority government means the “rule of majority.” By that it means, those who gets majority votes will form a government.

            Second, I am arguing on the concept of government he brought up in the middle of the war (first I am arguing on your information you guys. I haven’t listened yet). The point of argument is why “transitional government” in the middle of the war, when they formed central command to meet the current invasion. He is a selfish politician looking for his interest. There is time for everything. He can demand for any kind of change when the war ended. So my issue is on timing. People are starving and dying, and he is seeking for power. It is plain stupidity. I will give you more answer when I listen to what he had said in the interview.

            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            What invasion are you discussing here? It is the TDF invading the Amhara and Afar lands.
            What am I missing?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi

            You know what lead to extend the war to the Amara region. You are smart enough to misunderstood the cause and it’s effect.They just pushed the war from their land to the invaders land. It is natural to feel it now, but was difficult for you to have the same feeling when the war was in every part of the Tigray region. It is easy to clap for a war, but it is unbearable when it hits home.

            Regard

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I think you misunderstood what I tried to say. My focus was on the “ invaders “ part of your comment. If the Amharas and Afaris are defending in their own lands, your characterization of them as invaders is wrong.
            I’m not complaining about the TDF invading the Amharas and Afar regions. The more conscripts went farther from their ደጀን is the better. ይመጣሉ እንጂ አይመለሱም:: Do they disrupt life? Yes, big time! Do they destroy properties? Yes they do. They are determined to eliminate Amharas. እንግዳ ማስተናገድ የአማራ መለያው ነው:: እየተስተናገዱ ነው::
            More Tigreans perished since the unilateral ceasefire. ቶሎ ቶሎ በርከት እያደረጋችሁ ላኩዋቸው::

            “ሄድኩኝ ሄድኩኝና ቀረሁ ከዳገቱ
            እሬሳሽን አንሺ በሏት ያችን ከንቱ”
            ብሏል ሙሉቀን መለሰ

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            Majority government is a common term used in parliamentary system where the elected government has the majority of MPs and when its forms a government they can push their agenda without bi partisan participation. That is called majority government. I am not bringing from the thin air, so you know
            But in presidential systems like the USA the MG term is not used. Bu if one party has majority in both houses and has the white house the president can push their agenda without need of bi partisan participation, I hate that too. You should not admire it although it was elected, because it can be elected tyranny. Why I am having this debate with you, you should be in agreement. I bet donuts to dollars that even Sal will agree with me on this:-)
            So am using a common term, so I do not like it when all braches of government are majority of one party and in case of parliamentary, the house of commons is majority of one parity
            Power should not concentrated in one party or group even if there are elections are fair, and that is why I am a fan of proportional representation and amending election. Like winner takes all in EV in USA and winners takes it all in Canadian system should be obsolete. Some small state in USA have a way to split the EV between the two candidates is good example that should be emulated

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi sem,

            Sorry, I was thinking only on the governing executive body rather than the entire governmental structure. My mistake.

          • Abi

            iSem
            If 1% is equal to 300,000, that makes the population of Tigray 30,000,000.
            I know logic and arithmetic are not your strength.
            You got the habit of adding zeros in everything including the ongoing discussions:-)

          • iSem

            Abi:
            It is a typo dabbo dude
            the 300, 000 the number of Ethiopians that will die when this is stupid war is over

          • Abi

            iSem
            I see your point. Your mistake is those dead people have already told us that they are not Ethiopians anymore.
            የዳቦ ሊጥ ሊሰርቁ መጥተው እንደ ድፎ ዳቦ ከላይና ከታች እሳት ነደደባቸው::

            የጎንደር ገበሬ መንግሥት የእሬሳ ክምር ከእርሻ መሬታችን ላይ በአፋጣኝ ያንሳልን እያለ መንግስትን እያሳሰበ ይገኛል::
            የተንቀዠቀዠች አይጥ ከጎሬዋ ርቃ ገበሬ ማሳ ላይ ሞታ አረፈችው::

          • iSem

            Abi:
            listen, I am using 300, 000 Ethiopians including Tigray for now. That is how much your country will murder and you are part of the crimes because your are cheering it the war.
            I told you your wishes and reality are 300, 000 km apart and that is closer to the distance between where I live (earth) and the moon 🙂

          • Abi

            iSem
            I’m listening to your zibazinke and adding zero to my knowledge:-)
            You must be living in the core of the earth that you missed what is happening on the surface.
            How far is from the core to the crust of the earth?
            Never mind. Logic and arithmetic እንደ መንግስተ ሰማይ እርቆሃል::
            “How far is heaven…” it is a song. Don’t bother to answer.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            Population is not equal to voting age
            Population includes adults and kids. So correct your statistics.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            የቀንየለይ.
            Is is not my statistics. The statistics was presented by the person who keeps his logic and arithmetic skills in his local bank vaults.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma

            It is my interpretation. Inclusive transitional regional government would give a platform for others with different views to become a part of the decision making organ. TDF is just in the battle, but TPLF makes key decisions that impact the fate of Tigray people.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            TDF is a unite front of different political persuasions, that include TPLF. They formed a general command to fight both on the political and military fronts. That is how I understood it. Hint, Getachew Reda is the spokesperson of TDF. It means he is a member of the central command. So TPLF has no power as an organization in the current situation. The general command is. That is why Togrians are ahead in politics than us.

            Regard

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            “TPLF has no the power as an organization in the current situation” If that’s true, we would be discussing something else.

            We all know TPLF allows limited freedom of expression to groups that do not pose a threat to its power, and that doesn’t necessary absolve the organization from its crimes. You can ask members of Arena Party regarding the torture and harassments they have been enduring since inception.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            I think we are debating about the current leadership in their current war time. What I am saying is: the current central command comprises from the political and military elites of the Tigrain people, and therefore, I am arguing that, he can’t demand “transitional government” in the middle of the war. Their agreement was to form “central command” in their emergency meeting, when they retreat in the central mountains of the Tigray region. Of course there some individuals from the political elites of TPLF, but TPLF as an org is not leading the war effort. I hope I am clear now.

            Regard

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            Actually TPLF has a lot of power. The people like MY did not have military experience or political power. After the invasion, they decide to go the “ghedli” so to speak and met with the military leaders among them Gen.Migbay who told them let us fight together and they took training and fought, some of the party members stayed in Mekelle to do other logistical work. MY said that his party joined this gheldi before TPLF.
            TPFL had the contacts, the money, military access so they wield a lot of power and what MY is criticizing is TPLF political apparatus and MO not how TDF was conducted, though Migbey and the military guys are not officially card carrying TPLF (according Tkifle ), they are still under the political leadership of TPLF, TPLF makes decision on what to do, whether to stay in Amhara or go go out etc, but the military guys do the military things.
            Example, you mentioned GR is a member of the command center, he has no military experience, zero. But he is TPLF, so he is in the decision making, the political part and conferring with the military men
            So to say TLF has no power is nebulous. But if TPLF is sane, they they should stop doing all the things MY is saying they do.
            Am envious for this guy to say what he said in Tigray in the middle of the war, if you say that in Eritrea ppl will stone you and some from this forum will join the stoning

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Peace,

            I don’t think TPLF is wrong if it doesn’t want to create inclusive government. It’s not a charity but it’s political entity and it should try to grab as much power as possible so long as it’s done legally and within the constitutional arrangement.

            Sharing power with people or groups because they have a “party” but very little support in the ballet box is never ending game that doesn’t create a stable system of government in the long term.

            If his views and plans resonate with the people then he should win more power the next time around.

          • Peace!

            Hi Berhe,

            What MY and Abraha Desta are saying the regional government was dissolved eight months ago, and TPLF should not reimpose itself by alienating others with different views.

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Peace,

            I think Tigray situation is a bit tricky and not sure where it will end up, with the current conflict going on. So talking about regional government seems a bit out there right now. But I understand if TPLF can offer some positions to those from different political parties as a good sign of unity it doesn’t really hurt.

            At the end of the day, its really insignificant any political parties or individual can play in short term. It takes long and stable and successive government is required to see meaningful progress.

          • Peace!

            HI Berhe,

            Transitional regional government is what they seem to focus at this particular time, perhaps that’s where everything begins.

            Peace!

          • leGacY

            Hi Berhe ,
            TPLF presents itself as an asset of the Tigray people-meaning that they are accountable to them .It is not a private political entity say the way political parties are in the West.. So in theory ,it is not up to them to decide what is included and what is not . But of course this all conjecture

          • Peace ToAll

            Hello LeGacy,
            I share what MY was saying in his interview, however it is too early to talk about it. I totally agree that there should not be any more TPLF domination of the political party. They have to take the responsibility for the loss of innocent Tigrayans life, since they have not done the job while they were at the helm of the country.

          • Abi

            Hello Peace ToAll
            Please continue sending more and more people to the Amara and Afar lands in order to subdue and vanquish the አንኮበሬዎች:: ከተሳካላችሁ ሁላችሁም ኑልን:: እያረራችሁ እንድትፈኩ እንደማሽላ እንቆላችሗለን::
            ይህን ሊጥ መጠጣት የት ተማራችሁት?
            በብላክ ሌብል ውስኪ አዋዜ እንዳልበጠበጣችሁ ዛሬ የገበሬ ቡሃቃ እየገለበጣችሁ ሊጥ ትጠጣላችሁ:: ትክክለኛ ቦታችሁን አግኝታችሗል::
            “አፈር ነህና ወደ አፈር ትመለሳለህ” ይላል ታላቁ መፅሐፍ::

          • Peace!

            Hi Abish,

            ልጆቹ በየሄዱበት እየረገፉ መምህሩ ሽማግሌ ሳይቀር ኣማራና ኤርትራ ሳናጠፋ ኣንተኛም ኣለ::

            በሽታ መሆን ኣለበት!

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hello Peace
            ዛሬስ ተሳሳትክብኝ ወዳጄ!
            እኔ እድሜዬን ሙሉ ፈልጌ ያላገኘሁትን የትግራይ ሽማግሌ ከየት አገኘህ ?

            የጎንደር ገበሬ እርሻውን ትቶ በየቦታው የተከመረውን የወያኔ እሬሳ አንሱልኝ እያለ ነው::

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኣቢ

            ትናንት ውግያ ጦፎ እንዳልዋለ
            ምነው ፎረሙ ዛሬ ጭጭ ኣለ

            እርሳሶች ኣለቁ እንዴ ኣነጣጥረው?
            ወይስ ጥራዞች ጠቆሩ ተጭረው?

          • Abi

            ሊቀመኳስ
            ፀብ መጫርያውም ወግ መሞነጫጨርያውም እርሳስ ደንዟል::

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            he is apologizing for not pushing hard TPLF before war, not for joining TDF, he is actually proud of that, he said

          • leGacY

            Hello iSem,

            I think Gen Tsadkan will be the most important figure in shaping the politics of Tigray in post reconstruction. From my understanding he isn’t TPLF member at the moment so he would probably want a new inclusive governing body .

            TPLF itself has lost few of its senior members so it will not be as cohesive as it was before.But I am also hopeful that the Tigray people will demand for more accountability. Those who are at the battle forefront have to demand change.

            One thing I have had up to my ears is , multiparty systems! It has outlived its usefulness .Time to retire it . Most are using it to legitimize their autocratic government and even the few African countries that have manage to hold relatively free and fair multiparty systems , it has not helped them improve the lives of their citizens . Take Ghana for example, by all all accounts it has free and fair elections and has managed to transfers power three or four times. But, Ghana hasn’t moved an inch economically. It is one of the most corrupt nations in the continent. They have already managed to squander all their future potential natural gas deposits extracts .It is not out yet but the royalties have already been auctioned .

            Yes, citizens must express their ideas freely and unencumbered but wasting limited resources on multiparty elections is silly . I am curious how the Swiss model might be of interest to us. Not very versed how it works but they don’t seem to have the typical Western type of multiparty model.

          • iSem

            Hi leGacy:
            No multi party systems has not outlived its use, unless you are for one party tyranny. Call it whatever you want, but multi-views, not only airing and nothing happens, but constitutionally guaranteed right to remove those in power if they did not perform their fiduciary. I think after Tigray is liberated, TPLF should be removed. They had these smarmy arrogance that put the ppl to this level. If you are in power and brag about your military power, you should know that drone technology was used and decimated a powerful army recently and plan for it. I think what MY is saying is excellent for Tigray, if TPLF plays its old games, effectivity becoming like PFDJ but less repressive, then not good for you guys. MY called TPLF a collection of a few interest groups or something to that effect. If I was from Tigray, I would celebrate what MY is saying.
            I think parties who get votes should be funded by the public, some portion of it at least.
            But election is just one part of democracy, you have to have the institutions, the laws, so your Ghanna example is not apt, am afraid. But they do not kidnap ppl and torture them, so give them credit, they will get to the dabbo one day 😉
            You know what I am tired of is the stupid developmental state, the shiny object for the few than many here are enamored with.
            I do not think the Swiss model will work for Tigray,
            You can tell me Tigray issue is non of my business 🙂

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    Unconfirmed news that TDF is in the outskirts of Weldia and seized the town of Muja and are 30km from Lali-Bela and they are installed city admin in Kobo
    Lali-Bela I think hosts some ENDF air force.
    TDF setting admin in Amhara regions? a Repeat of 1991 to ultimately create a coalition
    Lali-Bela (read Lallibela), it was a joke from me to those who understand:-)