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ELF Statement: The War In Tigrai

On June 29, 2021, the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF), a part of Eritrean National Council for Democratic change (ENCDC), an umbrella of the Eritrean opposition organizations issued a press statement about the conflict between the Tigrai Regional Government (TRG), led by the Tigray Peoples’ Liberation Front (TPLF), and the Ethiopian Federal Government (EFG).

In its statement, the ELF said the eight-month war led to the “destruction and displacement of defenseless citizens from their homes.” It added that the Eritrean forces, “under the direct orders of dictator Isaias Afwerki” sided with the Federal government forces in its confrontation with the forces of the forces of Tigrai and was an external interference that cast its “shadow on political and security situation in the region.”

The ELF statement also mentioned that the decision of “the international court on the border between Eritrea and Ethiopia is still not implemented by the Ethiopian side despite the peace agreements announced by the Ethiopian Prime Minister Abi Ahmed when he assumed the reins of power in his country.”

On July 8, 2018, Isaias Afwerki and Abiy Ahmed’s regimes in Asmara, later signed in Jeddah and Abu Dhabi. Hailed as a peace maker, Abiy Ahmed was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. However, two years on, the Nobel laureate in collaboration with the Isaias Afwerki of Eritrea started a war in the region and caused unprecedented humanitarian, political, and economic sufferings.

Several humanitarian organizations are struggling to ameliorate the consequences of the atrocities, rape, famine, and displacements that befell the Tigrayan civilian population due to the wars and atrocities.

The ELF called on the two warring sides to  resolve their “differences through dialogue” mentioning that the announcement of [the] ceasefire is a step in the right direction.”

The statement also said that Isaias Afwerki and his lieutenants are solely responsible for the interference of the Eritrean forces “in the internal conflict in Ethiopia [a decision that] does not represent the Eritrean people and its forces,” and “plunging our sons into a war that does not concern them is a war crime” and the culprit is “the tyrant and his aides.”

The ELF also condemned the reported crimes “committed … against the brotherly people of Tigrai […and] does not reflect the morals and values ​​of the Eritrean people that has ties of kinship and neighborliness with the Ethiopian people and the Tigray people in particular.” And that relation “will remain deeply entrenched.”

The statement called for the “establishing foundations of peace between the two brotherly peoples through a transparent international investigation into the crimes attributed to the Eritrean forces.” It also called, “the implementation of Decisions of the International Court regarding the demarcation of the borders between the two countries.”

The ELF also mentioned that “thousands of Eritrean refugees live in Ethiopia, especially the Tigray region, and they have been subjected to oppression and repression by both the Ethiopian and Eritrean forces and we call on all concerned parties to provide them with the required protection and care.”

It asserted, “since Isaias Afwerki forced the Eritrean forces to take part in the war, he bears the legal and moral responsibility to appeal to the Tigray Regional Government to respect the rights of the prisoners of the Eritrean Defense Forces to treat them according to international conventions and hand them over to the International Red Cross.”

The statement called on the Eritrean Defense Forces to align themselves with the Eritrean people and bring an end to the confiscation of “the rights of our people and exporting terrorism to countries of the region.”

The press statement concluded by affirming the ELF’s “firm position on the necessity of joint action by all Eritrean political forces and civil society organizations to accelerate the process of change, [to] ensure the security and stability for our people and our country.”

Background

The Ethiopian conflict was simmering since April 2018 when Abiy Ahmed became the prime minister of Ethiopia, and on May 3, 2020, it reached a critical point after the Ethiopian House of People’s Representative canceled the General Election, scheduled for August 29, 2020, due to the Coronavirus pandemic.

On Sept. 9, 2020, Tigrai conducted its regional election against the wish of the Federal government which threatened it will not recognize the Tigrai elections. However, despite the threats, the Tigrai government elected its representatives.

On Nov 4, 2010, the Federal government declared war to unseat the government and arrest its members whom Abiy Ahmed declared terrorists. Ethiopian security forces pursued Tigrayin leaders and soldiers and managed to kill several senior TPLF leaders and arrested others. The bulk of the Tigraian forces, however, withdrew to the countryside saving their remaining resources and started a resistance war. And eight months later, on June 28, 2021, the Tigrai government forces successfully defeated the Federal forces occupied Mekelle, the capital city of the Tigrai region.

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  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ከማይሲ ዝፈትዋ ዶ ‘ሎ ንዓርቢ?
    ኣይመስለንን ናተይ ምፍታውሲ ንበይኑ’ዩ
    ስለምንታይሲ ቀዳምን ሰንበትን ዕረፍቲ!!!

    ብተስፋ ይነብር
    ተስፋ ዝቖረጸ ሓንጎሉ የዕብር
    ለይትን ቀትርን የማርር

    ተስፋ
    ገንዘብ ዘይክፈሎ ብናጻ
    ጸቕጢ ደም የትሕቶ
    የስፍሖ ኣተሓሳስባኻ

    ኣንቲ ዓርቢ
    ክንደይ ትረግሚ?
    ከምኡ ‘ልኪ ሰብ ከተዛርቢ
    በሊ ሰጋብ ንራኸብ
    ደሓን ኩኒ

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Hello
    Awates,

    Shalom !

    Most of these who now call themselves Pfdj and Tplf and
    who seem to advocate for these two Organizations are
    not even Tegadelties nor do they even know the history
    and goals of the organizations. They are only the ones
    who first heard about EPLF or TPLF and were boarding
    the vehicles in either 1990/91 when the Liberation fronts
    were at the gates of Asmara and Addis Ababa.
    So why do a person like me have to bow for such kids
    who need to learn and study more in the first place
    about who the EPLF or TPLF were / are !
    I even doublechecked to make sure if my observation
    was true for the last 20 years. And I was right.
    They are strangers who just liked to be called the EPLF
    and the EPRDF.

  • leGacY

    Good Evening Awate Community!

    Tiny man with brain the size of a peanut no longer doing additions. These days running a lot of deficits and subtractions. On the hills of running the biggest humiliation any modern Ethiopian leader has ever suffered , he is now reducing his foreign embassies because they failed to make him look good. What a jackass!

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam leGacY,

      Remember his speech weeks ago about becoming a role model for Africa by making Ethiopia top of the world in 10 years? Maybe this reduction of 30 Ethiopian embassies is part of that plan; who knows.

      • leGacY

        Hi Fantish,
        My favorite go to quote when I come across people with verbal diarrhea is this:

        “If you’d kept your mouth shut we might have thought you were clever”

        This is from my 1 British sitcom fav.Yes, Minister. BTW, where is Amde?

        Do you think he ever finished reading any book at all?

        This man’s ignorance just hurts.

      • Abi

        Fantastic
        I think you missed the concept of trimming and size reduction.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Abisha,

          እኔም በእሮሮ እርስዎም በእሮሮ
          መኖር ላይቀር ኣብሮ
          ይሁንልን ዘንድሮ

          ቅምኣያቶች ኣውርሰውን ፍቅር
          ላንለየው እስከ መቃብር
          ብንወቃ ብንበጠር
          ብንወጋ ብንሰበር

          ወድያ ኣሉታዊ ምክር
          ጣላት ወዳጅ መስሎ ሲያብር
          ባቅመቢሱ ላይ ምጽኣት ሲወረውር
          እናስተውል ሳታመልጠን ዠምበር

          እርስዎም ያንሱና ሞፈር ቀንበሩን
          እንድናመርት ተለባ እህሉን
          እንቀባበል ቅመም ቅመሙን።

    • iSem

      Hi LeGacY:
      Enter pastor AAA. In the Badme war, he walked away to plant an antenna and when he came back his entire squad was decimated by PFDJ bomb (I say PFDJ because that war was PFDJ’s war) and I suspect he suffered mental health issues.
      You see all politician lie, exaggerate, spin, but normal ones have method to their lies, this dude? We cannot find recruits, we can recruit 500,000 in a few weeks.
      You see Ethio despite its troubled history had a potential, I think this guy is configuring it for its disintegration, probably when he is praying his god tells him these loony things

      • leGacY

        Hi Isem,
        There isn’t an ounce of intelligence in this man’s tiny brain . It really hurts. I have said this b4 and I will repeat it again that we would have been far better off had we pulled a random person from the streets and lead the country. Even, Ed Amin Dada makes more sense than this tiny man with a charisma slightly better that a shaved carrot.

    • Tkiros

      Le,
      what are you saying? Dr. Abiy strategy in Tigray will be remembered in the History book. If this was Chinese chess, it would be called the the Hong Kong maneuver. Isolate the organization and let it run out of steam. His mistake if any is that he should have withdrawn about four months ago. Let TPLF be a guerrilla movement. Just give it space and isolate it.
      When the history books are written he will be remembered in the same breath as Tewdros- the modernizer.

      • leGacY

        Hi Tkiros,
        Can’t make sense of your comment except your comparison to tewdros who was suicidal maniac , in stead of leading his troops to battle he took the easy way of committing suicide. The modernist crap is a fable of Amhara folklorist. Just another zealot who believed his own nonsense. That was a waste of British colonialists time- time and energy spent on useless shifta when it could have been spent plundering more African resources.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ስረ ገፊሑኒ
    ቁልፈይ ውን ሓጺሩ
    ሸተት ኢሉ ከይወድቀኒ
    ‘ቶም ምሳይ ዝነበሩ
    ሕፍረተይ ከይሪኡ
    ተስኪፈ
    ይብል ኮለኔል ኣብዮት

    መዓስ ተሳዒረ
    ትግራይ ዝገደፍኩ
    ሑርመይ! ብውግእ ኣይኮነን
    ስረይ ዝፈታሕኩ
    ትስረ ገፊሑ ‘ኳ ‘የ ዘልኩ

    እመኑኒ ይብል
    ን ኡሽተይ ኮለኔል
    ሕንከት ስለዝኾኖ
    ተዳሂኸ ምባል
    ንሱ ዝሓሰቦ ናይታ ሃገር ጎብለል
    ክኸውን

    ኣብ ሜዳ ግን
    ግደፉ ኮታ
    በዓል ደብሪጽ ጸብለል
    ቁሩብ ተሪፋቶ ኮለኔል ክጽለል
    ሰራዊት ጸላእቱ ኣብ ገዝኦም
    ናይ ፌስታ ይዕለል
    ክብሉ ይስምዑ
    ወይን በዓል ስረ!
    ወሰደ!
    ዓሽ! ዓሽ! ይበል! ይበል!
    ‘ዞም ርጉማት ወያነ

  • iSem

    Hi all and especially the important analysts here: Sal. Emma, Tkifle, SGJ, HTG (Note Raas Abiyot is no address and for a good reason)
    when I was in highschool I watched one Eritrean scholar was so charmed by how EPLF pulled off the Nadew Ez and when IA came ot the USA, this scholar (that I remembered to be Legesse Asmerom, but a frined told me it was not him) sprang on his feet and told IA story: ” In the halls of a university white men were marveling about how how the Eritreans pulled off the Nadew victory and I run towards them and proudly chanted, I am an Eritrean, I am an Eritrean, I am an Eritrean.”
    Nadew was a success story, but the latest TDF victory, dubbed Al-Ula (*Arabic for a female first LOL) is even more marvelous. How did they pull it off while encircled by all directions? and T.kifle shout, I am an Ethiopian and then caught himself and say, I am Tigraway, I am Tigraway. Are we going to see the names Tsadkan, Debretsion, Migbey Gunbet (May) spike in children’s names. Will Gunbet 28 be a national holiday
    *this is for Sal. I cannot resist. Probably many may not remember the class when the educator saay educated someone about the meaning of the alula 🙂

    • Saleh Johar

      iSem,
      Actually the root word is Aala and Ali, Aliya, and many other names and words sprout from that root. Menn Teleba’alUla sehara al’leyaali (one who wants an elevated [status] works throughout the nights) It means to rise, to be elevated, ect. Just an addition to your rich vocab 🙂

      • iSem

        Hi SGJ: Thanks
        I love it more if it has Ali root:-)

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        iSem/Saleh,
        I thought Alula was made up No-No 🙂
        Alu
        La(e)

        • Saleh Johar

          La’e wenus MM,
          Alu is just distancing responsibility for fake news:-) They, or someone, said it, don’t hold me responsible. It’s like እንታይ ይባሃል’ሎ መስለኩም::: A malady not only older than COVID, it’s older than ሒቅታ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Saleh,
            I see both words as negative response.
            Alu ~ኣሉ ቐጣን
            La[e] ~ ኣይፋል
            ሓጃባርዳ ጎርዳዕ ኣቢልካ ክትውሕጣ ቀላል ‘ያ።
            ካብ መሰልሰላ ማጨሎ ግዳ ኣይተዕጥለና።

          • Saleh Johar

            MM,
            Don’t confuse me with your (-ve) (-ve) = +ve I can only handle finger assisted MEDEMER up to the fingers on both hands like 5+5=10 🙂

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሳልሕ
            ደቂ ገዛውትና [ኣብ ጅሬፍ ሸጣ ማለተይ ‘ዩ ] ስኒ “ያ መስታህብል” ይብሉ ኔሮም። ኣዘኪርካኒ።

          • iSem

            HI MM:
            ገዛውትና ኣብ ጅሬፍ ሸጣ? Circa what year? Hateq Haateq tbleni aleka 🙂

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hey iSem,
            You were wearing gray short & white shirt and attending high school at that time 🙂
            Between MeHaTa NoQhTa and meHaTa Seb’A 🙂

    • Abi

      iSem
      I’m furious not because I’m not including in the long list of ወንበዴዎች , but because General Alula, the only Ethiopian, was mentioned in the same comment with those keyboard ጀግኖች.
      ተዋሪድና !!

      • iSem

        Abiyot
        Correction: general Al-Ula will be Tigrayan 🙂

        • Abi

          iSem
          I’m talking about the Ethiopian General Alula.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas,
    Secretary Antony Blinken spoke with Prime Minister Guad Abiy Ahmed Ali
    today. Eritrean forces need to withdraw fully from the country.
    This means from Oromia too.

    • saay7

      Selamat Brhan:

      The telling part of Sec of State’s statement is not that Eritrea should withdraw from all parts of Ethiopia (in my opinion) but that Ethiopia should respect external and INTERNAL boundaries. This is the next point of contention as the Ethiopian ambassador to the UN said that the parts of “Western Tigray” (the phrase itself is contested) that is, post war, defacto part of the Amhara region should remain so.

      The African Bloc of the UNSC, in its call, demanded that all forces from neighboring regions withdraw. But how can one withdraw from an area that the federal government tells you publicly is yours now?

      So, once again, the stupid war will continue and this will be decided stupidly: more young lives perishing, while those whose children are nowhere near the war cheer from a safe distance.

      saay

      • T. Kifle

        Selamat SAAY
        በህገ-መንግስቱ መሰረት አንድን ክልል በሌላው ክልል የግዛት ይገባኛል ጥያቄ ማንሳት አይችልም፡፡ የክልሎች የወሰን ለውጥ የሚኖረው በማንነት ጥያቄ ላይ ተመስርቶ በሚደረግ ህዝበ-ውሳኔ በሚያስገኘው ውጤት በመመስረት ብቻ ነው፡፡ የትኛውም ክልል የሌላውን ክልል ግዛት ቆርሶ መውሰድ የሚችልበት ህጋዊ ሽፋን የለም፡፡ የአማራ ክልል ምን አጭሶ በእሳት መጫወት እንደመረጠ እንቆቅልሸ ነው፡፡
        As you explained it well, the PM did his tricks: Tigray and Amhara states lock horns and he watching from safe distance!

        • saay7

          Selamat T Kifle:

          I know. But that assumes that those who took an oath to uphold the constitution will do so. PM Abiy said that , pending a work of a committee that will be constituted by the new government, the land is disputed and those who occupied it forcefully can stay. (This is when he was waving the “mission accomplished” banner months ago.). Last week, the Ethiopian ambassador to the UN was asked a point blank question if those who have forcefully occupied the land should remain there and he flat out said “that’s the matter of the fact”: his government supports that position.

          Both these gentlemen took an oath to uphold the constitution.

          Maybe it’s aging but when I see the Ethiopian, Eritrean antagonists I don’t see uniforms but their age. All of them are the age of my kids or younger 😡 Where are the so called religious leaders? Is there no peace movement in the whole of Ethiopia or even its Diaspora?

          saay

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:
            Not, it is not aging, even your qollut (No, I mean your adult kids LoL) will see the same thing you see. I watched this Eri kid captured by TDF, his name was Redie-Amin and when he was answering yes, he would say (I do not know how to write it). The last time I used it was when I was 13 in Sudan and a teacher rebuked me” arebiyya dikka tziwer zelleka and after that I slowly relinquished it. So, your eyes are showing real image.
            That is why the war is really evil (stupid is kind of compliment), stupid implies “eshinnet”, not knowing better. IA is devouring our generation and young brothers/sisters generation and that is why the debate is heated when misguided awatistas, boosters of evil like Tegadalai neber (as EPLF?PFDJ derisively say to ELF) Semere Tesfai evade the truth
            Sorry, I went on and on

          • T. Kifle

            Selamat Saay,

            age wise, the Ethiopian side is ok. the problems lies in the indoctrination process. What they keep telling them is not how to fight but to walk around and catch few rich-men-criminals who amassed wealth through loot. So they don’t need to be a stern fighter. they waste their time looting money, mobile phones, and other valuables, raping women and killing the youth with impunity, oblivion to the fact that they are there ‘to enforce laws’
            The Eritrean side is strange. Either they are kids or they are ageing men doubling the cruelty in many folds.

            As to ‘the wise men’ here, no Ethiopia doesn’t have any. Everybody is caught in fear. Anyone who disagree will be at the receiving end (that includes murders). The religious leaders have always been tools for the men at the top. so like the past:
            ብረት ኮይና ዳናይት ዓዲ!

        • haileTG

          Hey T. Kifle,

          One thing I don’t get with PMAA is that which part of law enforcement in response to NC event include shifting around disputed territories? Amazing!

          • T. Kifle

            Hi Haile TG

            The man doesn’t have principles and/or values to stand for. Always fluid with a moving target . wrong moving target at that. The NC thing was a ploy. The attack on NC was a preemptive one.
            They knew from the information intercepted that they were going to be attacked few hours later. The Republican Guard travelled to Makele in buses in a guise of civilians. That info also leaked and they were arrested when they reach Mekele.
            Antonov aircraft carrying, armed elite RG, weapons and munition(to arm those travelled in civilian guise) landed on Alula Aba Nega Airport. Again, the RG got arrested. An hour and so later, another two aircrafts flew over the Airport and dropped airmen with parachutes. All were made out of operation before touching the ground.

            When they knew their plan gone awry the Air defence at Mekle tried to destroy all anti aircraft weapons and tracking radars as a means of last resort. by the time the entire southern border is amassed with newly deployed elite division of all sorts. Eritrea readied its heavy artileries targeting Humera, Sheraro, Rama, and Zalambesa. you know, the rest is history.

            The reason why now he is changing course now is because Ethiopians have lost appetite in his stupid self-imposed war . The only excuse he could fire is the AMhara nationalism in a glaring contravention of the Constitution, wanted to modify the borders between the two states. He is not even serious on it and might take turns after it served his purpose
            You see haile, why the army is defeated in Temben and elsewhere is not because it was incapable of wining. Rather, most of the members have no reason to fight for. They are pushed to the front lines through guns pointed at their backs. Now the target is reduced from ‘Law enforcement’ at the federal level to bringing back of swaths of lands to make the Amhara state ‘bigger’ . Still the cuase for fighting is getting less and less convincing. Not even all the Amhara people would buy such blander of a few who achieved nothing good to date.

        • Abi

          Selam Ato T Kifle
          ጀግናው የአማራ ህዝብ በሌብነት የወሰዳችሁበትን መሬቱን ደሙን አፍሶ አስመሷል:: ከአሁን በሗላ ቀሪ ሂሳቡን ለማወራረድ ከበቂ በላይ ተዘጋጅቶ እየጠበቀ ነው:: ምናምን አጭሳችሁ ሂዱና ሞክሩት:: ለወሬ ነጋሪ አትተርፉም::

          • T. Kifle

            Hi liqe Mekuas,

            Wars are not fought in websites!

          • Peace ToAll

            Selam Abi,
            Last time, I mentioned to AWATE to refer to this book so that the expansionist to really see where they belong in the proper Abyssinia. In fact Tigray should claim more areas than what TPLF demanded.
            Nubia and Abyssinian by The Rev. Michael Russell
            Mew York 1854
            page 79
            NUBIA AND ABYSSINIA.
            conjecture. On the shores of the ocean are the Somaulies, a people who are supposed to possess the lands which in ancient times belonged to the Macrobian Ethiopians mentioned by Herodotus, and celebrated for an unusual length of life. Of these we shall have occasion to take some notice . in the sequel ; meantime we proceed to give a tabular view of the Abyssinian provinces, which will serve much better than the most minute description to illustrate the distribution, the extent, and the relative position of the several parts of that great empire.
            I. AMHARA.
            1. Amhara Proper. 5. Begemder
            2. Dembea. 6. Angote.
            3. Damot. 7. Walaka
            4. Gojam.. 8. Marrabet.
            II. TIGRE
            1. Tigre Proper 7. Avergale.
            2. Agame. 8. Samen
            3. Enderta 9. Temben.
            4. Wojjerat, or Wogara. 10. Sire, or Shire.
            5. Wofila. 11. Walkayt.
            6. Lasta. 12. Waldubba.

      • Brhan

        Selamat saay7,
        The Abiy gov’t has double standard on this issue. To this day , as reported by Ethio 360 hours ago the Amharas are deported from Wellega by the Oromo. What does the Abi gov’t do: nothing. See no evil and hear no evil.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Saay,

        With regards to the US statement I have a couple of questions related to Eritrea.

        External boundaries with Eritrea.
        Is it the same case? That is, the federal government accepted the boundary commission ruling and Eritrea has taken Badime if not mistaken? Are they expecting to withdraw, from land the federal government already agreed to?

        Build up with Eritrea / possible war
        I don’t know if TDF are breathing fire, or I don’t know the mechanized arms they have captured or at their disposal, but would they face the Eritrean army without air and mechanized power? Is this the stupid of stupid wars or what? It took Ethiopia (under Melles) to arm itself and to plan for months if not a year to achieve it?

        • Saleh Johar

          BerheY,
          You need air cover if you are fighting a conventional war. They had no air cover fighting the federal and Amhara forces. What if it is the usual wars we are used to fight? Just a thought.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saleh,

            Yes, that’s possible and I realize that.

            Samuel in one of his posts stated that, the boarder with Eritrea is long (1000 K with Tigray 350 K ) that Eritrea is not capable of defending. All this assumption and the possibilities are true.

            How ever my question was with regards to the cost (in human, resources) time and efforts required. The reason I say this:

            1) Even though there is 350 KM between Eritrea and Tigray, it’s not plane. Mostly needs to be done by foot or as per MZ words, “people tell us the short path is straight line but not always the case” when Ethiopia used Donkey / Mules to cross Eritrean boarders over the mountains and co-ordinate the attack with mechanized and air power to break Eritrea’s line (after attempting few times).

            2) The Eritrean defense: Unless the Eritrean forces are totally dismantled and in disarray and there is no body in the boarder (or revolt against) and collaborate with Tigray, this will very costly in human lives. Eritrea not only has it’s supply of arms and recruited (but it has alleged stolen many of the heavy artillery from TDF) and moved them over. As per Ambassador Andebrhan interview with SBS, he said based on intelligent report that he has, Eritrea has withdrawn it’s arms a week before the “Alula Aba Nega” campaign, mostly due to the pressure from the US. And General Migbay in his interview also said, if the EDF is out, he said “they will not last a week (ENDF)” which appear to be exactly what happened if all the dots put together.

            3) I don’t know what arms and supplies TDF has at it’s disposal but it will require a lot of planning and arming. How soon and how much of that can be done, time will tell. But having the boarders (at least for now closed) and it’s being a rainy season, I don’t see any changes soon.

            4) I just finished listening to Dr. Debretsion on TMH. In his closing, he said:

            አብ መወዳእታ መንግስትን ህዝብን ትግራይ መማርጺ ሲኢኖም ህዝባዊ ኩናት ከካይዱ ዝተገደዱ ሃለዋቶም ድሕንነቶም ብምርግጋጽ ህዝቢ ትግራይ ሰላምን ራህዋን ረኺቡ ማሕበራዊ ሂይወቱ ናብ ንቡር ምምላስ እዩ። ኣብ ከባቢና ዘላቂ ሰላም ክነግስ ወረርቲ ሓይልታ ግምባር ፈጢሮም ባዕሎም ወሊዖም ዘካይድዎን ዘካይድዎ ዘልዎ ኣረመናዊ ኩናት ብሰላማዊ መንገዲ ክዛዘም መንግስቲ ትግራይ ሕጂውን ከም ወትሩ ቁሩብ ምኻኑ ክገልጽ ይፈቱ።

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          በርሀ ነብሲ
          ነፈርቲ ዶ ኔረናና የን ኣብ ቅድሚ ናጽነት?
          ሕነቕ-ተሓናነቕ ምስ ኮነ ካልእ ዓይነት ኲናት ‘ዩ።
          ናይዞም ደቂ ስው ኣት ይሕዋተይ ድቃስ ከሊኡኒ በጃኻ ‘ለካ።

          • Berhe Y

            Selam MM,

            See my reply to SGJ. Yes that possibility but it took us 30 years to change the game in our favor. Some of the reason for the success:

            1) The Eritrean people were totally supporting EPLF
            2) Derg was invading army fighting against the population.
            3) The Derg army was war fatigued and had no motivation to fight
            4) Other fronts were making the Derg weaker, TPLF, Oromo and Amhara region
            5) Sudan, Somalia were and many Arab countries were on Eritrean side.
            6) When we liberated Afabet and captured lots of heavy arms to be used against Derg e.g. Massawa
            7) Russia withdrew its support for the Derg and the collapse of Soviet Union

            Were among the reason why we finish successful.

            I doubt the environment is the same today.

            At least the Eritrean people inside and outside need against the PFDJ government for any change to succeed.

            My sense that will not the case if TDF initiated the war and cross the boarder. It’s one thing to librate our country from the invading army but it would be quite the opposite if EPLF crosses and invade Ethiopia.

          • iSem

            Hi MM:
            I am sorry for the price you paid during the armed struggle, EPLF had no plan for independent Eritrea. That is why some families paid 7 of their children and some they came out unscathed, like hair in a dough as the Sudanese say. Some families are near extinction and it is continuing after May 24. The burden was heavy on some, very light on others, some of them never even felt it, they were in Sweden and USA studying and building their families. That is the inequality that EPLF created.
            But now what we can do is make sure that kids of your brothers do no go through that and their kids do not become orphans. But that is a tall order when you have many people do not understand in the name of some dusty place in the border and obsession with many loony ideas, instead of dealing with the monster that is planting these loony ideas

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam iSem,

            Your response to MM can be interpreted in different ways, and one of the ways I interpreted it was offensive.

            “The burden was heavy on some, very light on others, some of them never even felt it, they were in Sweden and USA studying and building their families.”

            Feel free to elaborate what you mean, if you want to of course.

          • iSem

            HI MJ: It is unfortunate that it felt offensive to you
            Probably, it was offensive because no family is an island, if the immediate family is not affected their cousins will be or their friends.
            But, I am talking about the decimation of the immediate family unit,
            And that statement is true, there are families whose entire kids were abroad and others all of them in ghedli. But some families, it was luck, 5 of their kids made it, although they were in the struggle, but even these lucky ones, they paid dearly economically, and they are the destitute of our society as they spent their lives working to create the monster called May 24. The EPLD also failed in that regard, the big inequality it created could have been minimized
            So the sacrifices was light on some, heavy on others and some did not even feel that the struggle was going .
            Do u mind elaborating as to why u fond it offensive

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam Ustaz iSem,

            Thank you for the explanation. I will answer you later and hope that’s okay. I need to complete some tasks. 🙏🏽

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam kbur Ustaz iSem,

            Sorry for the delay, time difference and all.

            So, most people that fled, or left early on, before natsenet, were the ones with some capital. But, it was a struggle to leave according my parents stories. However, compared to today’s hardships Eritreans face escaping, it probably pales in comparison.

            I remember stories about Derg soldiers looting our house while my father was working. The women had a place to hide and there they prayed the soldiers wouldn’t find them.

            You mentioned there are those who paid the price even if it isn’t in the immediate family and that’s true. Although there are more ways to pay the price than one.

            Also, let’s not forget those who were chased out because of the betrayal against ELF. They were truly used and abused. Having family that are pro ELF and some EPLF is perhaps common these days.

            That said, I understand your reasoning.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi MJ,

            The question is, does iSem and others who despise EPLF and May 24 think the same about TPLF liberating Tigray on what ever day they celebrate?

            Listen now how he will lecture me the difference of TPLF and EPLF and how TPLF raised their people from poverty to wealth and what they have build etc. Which is all true.

            But they struggled and sacrificed the same way and paid in similar way. So the struggle and sacrifice is and was not the problem but what becomes of that.

            Here may the whole country and the Eritrean people need to blamed for not taking their government accountable. But it’s not because May 24 that Eritrea finds in the sorry state that she is. ርጉም ውላድ ወሊድና.

            Almost everyone who is a parent, raise their children to be good citizens when they grow up. But once in a while, some children turn out to be criminals. So if you are one of those parents, do you curse the day that ርጉም ውላድ was born the problem or the ውላድ is the problem. It’s nothing to do with the parents (May be there was a sign they missed, May be they didn’t discipline him enough) but they did all and he turned out to be BAD.

            Blaming the parents (EPLF), the environment (Ghedli) blaming the birth date (May 24) is really not the real problem but the son.

            The son could have really turned out good abd he could have made his parents and the society really proud. But አይተዓደልናን. So what do we do, ካብ ወረደና we just move on until we have our other good son is in charge of the family business and hopefully we learned from our mistakes.

            That’s like move on.

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam kbur haw Berhe Y,

            Well said! I wholeheartedly agree with you and the illustration you shared with the readers is spot on. 👍🏽

          • iSem

            Hi MJ:
            Thanks. I agree with all what you said. The question is not about May 24 and EPLF, it is how the EPLF was a major an equalizer: A family went to Sahel and brought their son and the entire family then left to Sweden after a week, they still live there and they are hardliners of PFDJ. No one can come from the heart of Sahel to Sudan on land cruiser, unless….. So, it was an org of patronage and it still is, not a vanguard of the people. People can defend EPLF and its parent org PFDJ and tell us stories they were told and with no clue of what the are talking about, but stick to the facts and your experience and you seem to stick to facts, which is good

            I was saying: One of the reasons we have the inequality in our society is that EPLF under IA did not have a strategy for Eritrea after Dergi is our (some ppl will be angry for not calling it independence), they only had a military strategy. So their lack of stagey/plan was reflected in 8 siblings sometimes killed in the war and that impacted the family unit. In many the entire family was in the struggle, good example is Amanuel Eyassu of Assena Family (it will drive some ppl crazy to mention his name) and also the late Aaron Berhane’s family and many more. So economically, and emotionally the EPLF was a huge an equalizer. There are many ways that they could have dealt with this, which beyond the scope of this reply to expound on. That was what I was trying to analyze but what you said about the details is spot on
            ps Your debating style and logic is excellent, and I hope this forum doe snot change you as it does to many people

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam iSem,

            Thank you! Your compliment is much appreciated.

            I enjoy your posts, humour, and opinions although they differ from mine is some areas. There is much to learn from you and many other gentlemen and gentlewomen who are well versed in the history and politics of our region.

          • iSem

            Thanks MJ:
            you are humble and am humbled. I am not sure where you live, but I will quote Ab Lincoln, who wrote a letter to his best friend by the name of Joshua Speed, who deferred with him on slavery. Lincoln wrote: “If for this you and I must differ, differ we must,”

            keep commenting

        • saay7

          Selamat Berhe:

          With respect to Ethiopia’s external boundaries, I presume they mean Eritrea (not Sudan) and I think it is a follow-up on the presumed discussion that the UN Envoy had with Isaias for 4 hours. In that meeting, the issue of Eritreas boundary with Ethiopia (EEBC) was discussed and the American envoy admitted America had made a mistake by not being more forceful in demanding demarcation but it can do so now to which Isaias replied it is too late now. Don’t ask me for a source (I can’t give you any link) but I believe it. If we had an opposition which can speak with one voice (say, GiE) it would have made a statement using the Sec State Blinkens convo with Abiy as a subject, and after the preambles, demanded that the US forcefully demand that the Eritrea Ethiopia boundary be demarcated in accordance with EEBC. Of course now the very emboldened Tigray Gov are saying that one of the Santa lists in their precondition for ceasefire that any Eritrea-Ethiopia issue that affects Tigray involve them in the decision making.

          As to the #StupidWar, I expect it to travel via the Stupidest Blvd: Somali journalist Bashir Hashi Yusuf is now claiming that Tigray now controls the formerly “disputed” territories with Eritrea and that Eritrean rebels are fighting on the side of Ethiopians.

          I have been following US policy on Ethiopia for decades and they have always taken the “right or wrong, support Addis Abeba.” The case with Abiy is completely different. He (and his and Isaias supporters) claim that this is because TPLF owns America and Europe. I think a more credible explanation is that they don’t see him in Ethiopia’s future and they are preparing for an Ethiopia without him.

          And no, I did not see that coming. I was a fan of the man. But the way he talks of Tigray (not TPLF, not the Junetah, not the terrorists but the people) makes me believe that he has disqualified himself to hold any higher office. You don’t equate your own people with sick chicken and you certainly don’t boast that Tigrayan mothers are in grief.

          saay

          • Berhe Y

            Thank you Saay as always.

            I think the development is in the right direction and listing to Dr. Debretsion, it appears that they [TDF] at least do not want to continue the “stupid war”. If they get what they are asking is another story [as the case with Eritrea] but it would be a good development is war is avoided.

            Speaking of GiE, I have not seen much development lately and with the current division of opinions and stand is taking place, I think it will make even more complicated.

            But I think it would be great if we can have something that’s good enough [not perfect but good enough that can articulate, like you said with the US and others] Eritrea positions and how we can move forward.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Brhan,

      Abiy has no option, but to escape – possibly to UAE, before the angry defeated ENDF conduct a coup against him. Humera, the western flank of the war theater, will be the battle of “Dien Bien Phu” for the TDF to win decisively to shock the world. Abiy and his ENDF should heed the call from the US, before they face a catastrophic defeat. What do you think, Brhan?

      Regard

      • Brhan

        Selam Professor Amanuel,
        As they say you can only bend an iron bar when it is under fire, so the US , is pressuring Abi at the right time. They won’t make him even count his votes till he fulfills this demand. There is no retreat for him.

      • leGacY

        Hello Ayte Amaniel,
        I really doubt the UAE would want to risk its already precarious position with the Biden Admin for some dirt poor country African leader. I am still sticking with “Dead

        Man

        Walking”

    • haileTG

      Hi Brhan,

      I think this is last minute political cover. Today, many thousands of Amhara militias were see off from the Amhara region to the front line, with thousands of people cheering in streets and shots fired to the air.

      Dozens or more of EDF tanks and heavy artillery are amassing in the Badim and environs.

      There are other reports that are hard to corroborate at this time. It looks that the situation is very tense and ready to ignite.

      I read Aman H think it will be Dien Bien Phu, but many are warning it is Stalingrad in the making.

      • Abi

        ኃይልሽ አርከይ
        የአማራው ክልል ጀግኖች የትግራይ ተስፋፊዎችን ምን አሏቸው መሰለህ?
        “አንድ አፍታ ብቅ በሉና እስከዛሬ በዱቤ የወሰዳችሁትን እዳ አወራርዱ”
        ሂሳብ አወራርዱና የዱቤ መዝገባችሁን ዝጉ ብለዋቸዋል::
        Future line of credit denied. All decisions final.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          ABi,
          I don’t mean to put you down but your colonel Demeqe run away to Gonder.
          The expectation is that in few days, the amhara militia will follow the colonel.

          • Abi

            MM
            እንደው የአንተ ነገር ምን ይሻለኛል? እንዴት አድርጌ አሰልጥኜ ነው ከሰው የማመሳስልህ? ወደሗላ ቀረህሳ አንተዬ!

            ጎንደር ጎንደር የደመቀ አገር
            ያንዲት ኢትዮጵያ ዋልታና ማገር!!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Thanks for your generous concern. This is for you and if you can just share with your two favorite dictators:

            ናይ ዩራኔም ጨረርታ ፈሪሐ
            ናይ ኢድ ጓንቲ ጥራይ ኣስሪሐ
            ተባሂሉለይ ‘ንድዩ ጎሪሐ

            ዋዛ ‘ለዎ ድዩ ጨረርታ
            ዕሽነተይ ሪኡ ኣይሓዘንን ኮታ
            በንጻሩ የእተወኒ
            ኣብ ናይ መዋእል ከውታ

            ዕሽነት ቀታሊ ‘ዩ
            ትምክሕቲ ሃሳዪ ‘ዩ
            ኣነነት መዕነዊ ‘ዩ
            ነዚ ዘይትፈልጡ
            ከመይልኩም ኢኹም
            መራሕቲ ክትኮኑ ትበቕዑ?

            ሰሚዕካ ዶ ኣምብሬዛ
            ኣቦ ጥሜት ኣብ ክንዲ ኣስቤዛ
            ሰሚዕካ ዶ ኮለኔል ኣብዮት
            ኣብ ክንዲ ሰላም ሞት
            ኣብ ክንዲ ዕቤት
            ዕንወት
            ብርሰት
            ስደት
            ሁከት
            ቅትለት

            በጃኻ ፓስተር ናይ ሓንቲ ቤት-እምነት ኣብ ጅማ ሒዝካ ኮፍ በል።

          • Abi

            MM
            የቐንየለይ መሃንዲስ
            እንደው ተቸገርክብኝ ሓወይ! ይህ ሁሉ ድካም ለኔ? ኧረ ይበዛብኛል አንተው::
            ብቻዬን አልችለውም ለወዳጅ ለዘመድ አካፍለዋለሁ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            ሓቅኻ። ‘ንታይ ክንገብር ኢልካና።
            በቲ ሓደ ወገን: ናይ ጎረቤት: ጎረቤት ኴንካና [ማለተይሲ ድሕሪ ሕጂ ትግራይ ከም ሃገር ከምትኸውን ኣይጠራጠርን። ሕጂኸ ‘ንታይ ክደግሙ? መዓስ ዓያሹ ኴኖም]
            በቲ ካልእ ድማ ዞማና ኴንካ።

          • Abi

            MM
            Whatever you said, I agree with you.

    • Abi

      Brhan
      “እሺ ጌታዬ” you know the origin, right?
      ሲ ሲኞር!

      • Brhan

        Abi
        You are right the Italian language preceded Amharic in the region.

  • said

    Greetings,
    Ethiopia The Impossible State To Govern .
    Preserving the nation is by reforming it and changing it with prevailing time and modernise it. Not by keeping it in its first form as it was in past , There are things that are part of the history and culture, but they are not necessarily permanent .In any case, we cannot glorify war , something that Ethiopian being have doing for century . It neglects the historical and practical political heritage at that time . Ethiopia Political hegemony and ethnic wars still present today . strife, and revolutions have erupted because of the rulers’, are tyranny, the injustice and oppression always present . Hence, the attempt to perpetuate this reality as it is the legitimacy to rule. It is closer to the official reading if we go back to the past and the same with present , and suppose that it was said in those times the right to rule by decree of Kings .they never reformed the state and not eve remotely modern at all.
    The solution is to rationalize the existing present as much as possible, without going to war, and refine it in accordance with the necessities .Therefore, to deal with the state as it is made up of individuals and institutions that can be formed and stereotyped according to the will of the people by election , the will of the elected elites and the actors who take control of the state .

    Tigrayan peoples supported the Ethiopian Empire and were part of it , in TPLF although there were separatist groups who sought to break it apart Ethiopia ; MZ a firm supporter of the Ethiopian Empire, as long it benefit national group of minority , ethnically, monolithic culture and linguistically Tigrayan, this minority was economically and militarily powerful having obtained their own space for 27 years , they forgot to grant the other minorities the same rights which they themselves enjoyed. in TPLF 1991 riding a wave of euphoria, The consequences were not long in coming unwittingly insulted and humiliated two powerful large group minorities Amhara and Oromo.
    Tigray territory, even though they had been an integral Ethiopia part of territory for centuries. In much the same way Amhara are , which had formed part of the Ethiopian empire. despite their being fractious and antagonistic, to this day and that the hegemony of a single ethnic group always leads to cultural impoverishment.

    Other minority in Ethiopia , eager for a partner that would give them better treatment, started to grow closer to Amhara and Oromo ,in 2018 which would end up voting for Abiy . So the hegemony of the Tigrayan ethnic group And this propelled by anti- Tigrayan.

    There will be no plans for the reconstruction of the war-torn Tigray in the near term ,eight months of protracted crisis has destroyed Tigray cities .there no Ethiopian government contracts coming soon to rebuild Tigray and there is no the urgency of getting Tigray ’s economy up and running again and no budget for projects and development. There is no hope for Tigray ’s bright future and no economic potential and there will be continued upheavals and security threats. And ongoing instability is a major factor, Tigray do not have the means to address the devastation inflicted on peoples’ lives and the very infrastructure on which they depend day to day, in Tigray there is no incentivise for private sector before Tigray has any hope of genuine economic reconstruction. Foreign investment will be discouraged. Many old figures from TPLF administration with the same mentality and economic attitudes remain in positions of influence. There is no cash the bank in Tigray are closed and Tigray faces short of every commodity essential for living, the economic forums and discussions around Tigray ’s reconstruction as premature. Tigray cannot do anything in Tigray until they inside Ethiopia. have decided if they want to continue the war or not, Once they have decided, only after that can the negotiate deals for peace .I am not optimistic that the peace process will be a success. the reasons for the war of the past are still there today.

    TPLF leadership are not stupid, far from it. People like DG have tremendous political knowledge and experience.They have proving that TDF force of arms has prevailed . PM AA and TPLF they’re in on this political farce as much as their apparent adversaries are on it. They all take the order from their master US and EU whose interests they serve, to whom they report, and from whom they take their orders. US agenda to continue Horn domination no matter what. So far no peace at hand , TPLF agreed to a ceasefire in principle with stricket condition and PM AA refused to open any dialogue with the TPLF leaders, or the peace negotiations move at snail-like speed. Abiy said “The value we place on peace is priceless. It’s the basis for our national prosperity,” , Addis has refused to open any dialogue with the TPLF leaders directly. TPLF refuse to declare a ceasefire until western part of Tigray is liberated .the flashpoint. TPLF are heading west Tigray , apparently redeploying to positions facing Amhara militia. The west of Tigray still remain in possession of Amharan militia , which TPLF officials want to reclaim.

    Sadly and unfortunately TPLF will get back to where they were in November 2nd 2020, TPLF occupying all the major cities and the majority of Tigray, Back in Mekelle ,in the same position .But with much worst conditions and catastrophe that is an imageable . The negative impact and consequences of the Tigray civil War, which mostly fell on, Tigrayan should be noted, as well. TPLF should have avoided war at any cost. Compared to the ravages inflicted on the Tigrayan today. Not mention Famine and hunger .The damage it was inflicting on Tigray is incalculable. It’s psychotic

    The War was invented and pushed by a hawkish by both side . There will be no “peace dividend.” It would never come. As for the opportunities lost for years to come.? for Ethiopian and Tigrayan, The real tragedy of the War is that virtually none of its lessons have been learned at all.

    Abiy had decided there “should be a period of silence for everyone to think”. Why Abiy did not reflect and contemplate before the war and consequence of it ,there was enough time and there was enough time and many good occasion to reflect on the Tigray War of which he was a major architect. So, what was real the rationales before the War were in place:? To destroy TPLF as preeminent enemy, or as enemy of Amhara . The problem was that TPLF posed no threat to Ethiopia, may be more to Eritrea . So on both side we have war mongers , they did their big Lie, No lie is too vile, it was manufactured and crammed down the throat of the Ethiopian and Tigrayan public to frog march it into civil war. and ferociously it was forced on the public. In both side, No lie was too salacious. The Ethiopian Amhara and Tigrayan war elites, were mortal enemies ,they wanted their war and they were going to have it, truth and the interests of the Ethiopian and Tigrayan would be damned.

    Since few days , means it has been downhill for Ethiopia army since then. Its failures echo far beyond the calamity of the War in Tigray itself. The collateral impacts on Tigran is massive —during, and after—and Abiy war have grievously damaged Ethiopia name ,its interests and substantially diminished its military power in the Horn and internally become weak . It’s the exact opposite of what was promised will done in few weeks going in to war.
    Ethiopian and Tigrayan Fathers and mothers that are burying their sons, literally, they both destroying their sons’ prospects for a peaceful world , for a better world, a better life, a more vibrant future because Ethiopian and Tigrayan cannot, will not, free themselves from the grip of internal predators, that being hunting them for century .

  • haileTG

    Selam Awatista,

    Latest….

    “Tsadkan Gebretensae, speaking a week after the withdrawal of government forces from the Tigrayan capital Mekelle, told Reuters: “After the defeat of Abiy’s forces we are saying ‘Let’s have a negotiated ceasefire’.”

    “We are restraining ourselves for a realistic political solution to the whole problem. I would like the international community to understand this situation.”

    “But if there is no other choice, then the next choice will be: try to resolve it militarily,” he said by satellite phone from an undisclosed location.”

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      Extremely comforting for the army and the people when the leader is still in the rabbit hole.
      እስቲ ብቅ በይ ልይሽ — ብቅ በይ ልይሽ
      እስቲ ብቅ በይ ከጏዳ — ብቅ በይ ከጏዳ
      ( የመሃሙድ ዘፈን ነው )

    • leGacY

      Hi HTG,
      Why do I feel the good general is dusting up an old horseshoe gelemele.. I bet general bache thinks that’s Kanye West’ new active footwear.. I am sure Isu knows what that is .

    • iSem

      Hi HTG:
      Easy on the news, Former Tegadalai, convert to PFDJ, Semere Tesfai may have aneurism because he was mocking Tsadqan’s alpenstock (murkus) and he was doing it in Amharic.
      But the words of Ge. Tsadqan tells you TDF knows what they are doing and if aid is allowed and Abiy stupidly elongates the war, it benefits Tigray not Ethiopia, as the former rebuilds its army. Now that PFDJ is out of the equation for all intent of purposes, Mama Astopia is in trouble. PFDJ supports are already cursing Abiy for withdrawing. Qedmus ms pente do timekir, they are saying nervously
      I was salivating for this day and am enjoy the nervousness and emotional anguish of PFDJ supporters.

      And gusty, Eritrean hero Amanuel Eyassu of Assena attended a Tigray rally showing his support

  • Abi

    Hello Residents and Visitors
    Talk of the World right now is regarding the filling of the MIGHTY GERD except here in this website. People seemed to be stunned by the shocking news.
    The usual መርዶ ነጋሪዎችና የእድር ጥሩንባ ነፊዎች ጭጭ እርጭ ብለዋል:: ድንጋጤው ሲለቃቸውና ከበላይ አካል መመሪያ ሲሰጣቸው የሚሉትን እንሰማለን::
    GAME OVER!!! አለ ጀግናው!

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    ‘Witnesses in Aksum and other cities in Tigray told the Guardian they have seen long convoys of troops loyal to the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) heading westwards, apparently redeploying to positions facing militia from neighbouring Amhara province.”….

    “….Recruiting offices across Tigray are crowded as many young men who had hidden from federal forces and their allies from the neighbouring country of Eritrea return to towns now once more under the control of the TPLF, multiple witnesses told the Guardian. Trucks full of new recruits have also been seen in towns in central Tigray.”

    On a related news, a couple of days ago, the Amhara Region President tweeted:

    Agegnehu Teshager

    @AgegnehuT

    Jul 4

    ዘመቻው አሁንም እንደቀጠለ ነው። ወያኔ አፈር ልሶ የሽብር ጥፋት ለመፈፀም ሊያስብ ይችላል። ወጣቱ አካባቢውን በንቃት ይጠብቅ ። የተለየ ሁኔታ ሲኖር ለህዝባችን መረጃ እናደርሳለን፤ ለሁሉም ልዩ ሃይላችን ሚሊሻችን መከላከያችን ዝግጁ ነው።

    • iSem

      HITG:
      War and yelping of war.
      This reminds me of the later American futurist, Alvin Toffler. In one of his books, War and Antiwar, he said, “you may not want war but war wants you.”

  • iSem

    Good Morning All and SGJ;
    During this tumult in our region, and the heated debate the ensued because of it, one crucial voice is missing from awate. The respectful, graceful voice of Aya Ustaz Ismail AA. I hope he is well in during this challenging times both politically and wellness wise.

    • Abi

      iSem
      I share your hope. About a month ago I asked the forum for information about his well-being. Nobody responded to me at that time.
      Let us all wish him all the best.

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother Abi,

        Nice, I appreciate your concern and interest about our participant, the most wisdom, and respected Ustaz Ismail AA..

        Thanks again and gain Abo,

        KS,,

        • Abi

          ኮኮባችን
          I seriously doubt his wisdom when it comes to everything Ethiopian. However, as a member of our family I always wish him the best irrespective of our differences.
          We don’t have to agree to care for each other.
          ቦለቲካ ሌላ ወዳጅነት ሌላ ነው ቁምነገሩ::

          • kokhob selamone2

            Yes Dear brother Abo,

            That is why we are joining in this site to come and avoiding our differences. We are all connected and from one big ocean of soul. Let us work together and come to peace, Those differences are temporary and not true, We should go beyond differences.

            KS,,

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Sem,

      I spoke with him about a month ago. He is not around us because of health issues on one member of his family. I am trying to reach him. Any development, I will update you. I appreciate for those who are concerned of his absence.

      Regard

      • iSem

        Thanks Emma:
        Pass my warm regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          👍

      • said

        Selam Amanuel

        Thank you for updating us .Wishing him speedy recovery and give him my worm greetings.
        Regard

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          👍

  • Brhan

    ሰላማት ዓዋቲስታ

    ምምላእ ማይ ግድብ ህዳሰ ምስ ኣብ ምዕራባዊ ትግራይ ክትስእ ዝበሃል ዘሎ ውግእ ርክብ ኣለዎ ኢልኩም ትሓስቡ ዶ? ማለት ሲ ጉዳይ ማይ ፓለቲካዊ መልክዕ ሒዙ ዶ ትብሉ? ናዓና ኤርትራውያን እዚ ምዕባሌ ይምልከተና ዶ ? ብውገነይ እወ እብል። ግዚኡ ኣብ ግምት ብምውዓል ነዞም ዝስዕቡ ነጥብታት ኣስተብህሉ

    ፈለማ ንመእተዊ
    ድሕሪ ጽባሕ ሓሙስ ባይቶ ጸጥታ ውድብ ሃገራት ብዛዕባ ግድብ ህዳሰ ክዛተ ኣኼባ ከምዝመደበ ይፈለጥ ደኣ እምበር ካብ ጉይይ ምውዓል ክሳድ ሓዝ ዝብል ምሳሌ ዝሰመዕ ክመስል ኣቢይ ኣሕመድ ዓሊ ሎሚ ካልኣይ ዙር ምምላእ ማይ ጀሚረ ኣለኹ ኢሉ ንግብጺ ደብዳቤ ሰዲዱ ኣሎ። ንምንታይ ንሱዳን ከምዘይሰደደ ርዱእ ኢዩ።

    ጋዜጣታት ግብጺ ግን እዚ ሎሚ ኢትዮጲያ ዝወሰደቶ ስጉምቲ ኣዋጅ ውግእ ኢዩ ኢለን ሰምየነኦ ኣለዋ።

    ሱዳን ጉዳይ ምምላእ ማይ ሓርቢቱ ክበቅዕ ፓሊቲካዊ ኮይኑ ካብ ትብል ቀኒያ ኣላ።

    ኣብይ ኣሕመድ ድማ ሎሚ እውን ኣብ ፓርላማኡ ግድብ ህዳሰ ንግብጺን ሱዳንን ፈጺሙ ከምዘይጎድእ ንመበል 100 ግዜ ተዛሪቡ ኣሎ።

    ፓለቲካዊ መልክዑ ዝሓዘ ምዕባለ ምምላእ ማይ ግድብ ህዳሰ

    1) ኣቢይ ኣሕመድን ተሓባባሪኡ ውልቀ መላኺ ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ ሓይልታት ትግራይ ምዕራባዊ ግንባር ብምስባር ኣፍድገ ሱዳን ክበጽሑ ተኽእሎ ኣለዎም ኢሎም ስለዝሓስቡ ሱዳን ብወገና ኣንጻር ሓይልታት ትግራይ ደው ኢላ ምስኦም ክትተሓባበር ድልየት ኣለዎም ። ኣቢይ ማይ ከም ፓለቲካ ክጥቀመሉ እንከሎ ዓቢ ዓርገን ኣጆኻ ካብ ምባል ኣይከዕርፍን ኢዩ።

    2) ግብጺ ኣብይ ኣሕመድ ብትግራይ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ብቅልውላው ኢትዮጲያ ተወጢሩ ስለዘሎ ማይ ከም መዕሸዊ ይጥቀመሉ ኣሎ ኢላ ልቢ ዝበለት ትመስል። ጋዜጣታት ግብጺ እምበር መንግስቲ ግብጺ ክሳብ ሕጂ ድንብርጭ ዘበሎ ኣይመስልን። ቅድሚ ሕጂ እንተኾነ እውን ግብጺ ምምላእ ማይ ሽግር ከምዘይፈጥረላ ብሚነስተር ወጻኢ ጉዳያታ ኣፍሊጣ ነይራ።

    3) ኢሳያስ ኣቢ ኣሕመድ ኣብ ኢትዮጲያ ኣብ ስልጣን ክጸንሕ እምበር ካልእ ኣማራጺ ስለዘይብሉ ኣብዚ ምዕባሌ ከም ቀደሙ ሰላሓታ ዕዩኡ ከዘውትር ኢዩ። ካብ ብዙሓት ኢትዮጲያውን ኣምሓሩ ሓዊስካ ኣቢ ኣሕመድ መራሒ ክኽውን ኣይበቅዕን ዝብሉ ድምጺታት እናወሰኹ ኣብ ዝኸድሉ ዘልዉ እዋን ኣቢ ኣሕመድ ብማይ ኣሳቢቡ ኮረቻ ስልጣኑ ከዳላድል ኢሳያስ ግዲ የብሉን።

    4) ሱዳን ጉዳይ ትግራይ የተሓሳስበኒ ኢዩ ዝበለት ኣብይ ኣሕመድ ጉዳይ ምምላእ ማይ ምስ ጉዳይ ትግራይ ብምትሕሓዝ ሾኸርተት ክብል ስለጀመረ ኢዩ። ሱዳን ብመትከላ ትቕጽል ዶ ወይስ ንማይ ኢላ ምስ በዓል ኣቢይ ትጽንበር?

    ኣንታ ኣቢ ኣሕመድ ማይ ንፓለቲካ ትብል ዘለኻ
    በል ዓድኻ ንዘልዓለም ከይትገብራ ድኻ

    ሓሳባትኩም ክሰምዕ ደስ ይብለኒ

    ምንጪ ሓሳባተይ ኣልጃዚራ

    • haileTG

      Selamat Brhan!

      The Ethio-Sudan boundary was drawn under the agreement (never ratified) with Menelik that Ethiopia doesn’t carry out any development work on the Blue Nile. Now that Ethiopia balked on the 1900s agreement, its contemporary version is to agree on guaranteed share of Nile water for Egypt (is it about 55 billion cubic meter??). Ethiopia doesn’t want to sign such agreement. I wonder if this raises a question on Ethio-Sudanese boundary. In the end, somebody needs to sign something, it his hard to find people like Menilik nowadays. He was such a trigger happy with his pen that ነዛ ኢትዮጵያ ቀናጢቡ ወዲእዋ እዩ ነይሩ bless his heart 🙂

      • Brhan

        Selam haileTG,
        I thought the Nile will unite Ethiopians ( like it is doing in Egypt) but it is not.

        • Abi

          Brhan
          Apparently, you were not thinking.

        • haileTG

          Hey Brhan

          በሬ ሲታመም ዶሮ ይላሉ ኣራት ኪሎ!

          • Brhan

            Hi haileTG
            ኣንታ ሃይለ ዓርከይ ሎሚ ይኸዱ ጽባሕ ይኸዲ ኢለ ወላ እኳ እቲ ምሳሌኦም እኳ እየ ዘይሽምደድክዎ>› እስከ በጀኻ ኢለካ እዛ ኣብ ላዕሊ ዝጸሓፍካያ ብትግርኛ ወይ ብእንግሊዝኛ ግለጻ

          • haileTG

            Hey Brhan,

            PMAA was explaining why his great army lost all but western Tigray. I think he said in Ethiopia when an ox is sick it turns into a rooster:) ku ku ku ku…. haha just to lighten up Guad Abi

          • Abi

            ኃይልዬ
            እንኳን ደስ አለን ስላላልክ ተቀይሜሃለሁ:)
            ዛሬ እራት የዶሮ ሾርባ ነው:: ከተመቸህ ብቅ በል::

    • Peace!

      ሰላም ብርሃን,

      መለስ ክስርሓ እንከሎ ጽብቕቲ ነይራ ሕጂ ግን ኣቢ ምስሓዛ እምብሬዛ ቀይሩ ግዲ ኮይኑ ቁርብ ጉብጥ ስለ ዝበለት ሱዳንን ግብጽን ብዙሕ ዝተቖጣዓ ይመስላ::

      እዚ ጉዳይ እዚ ካብ ኣብን ዓቢ ዓርገንን ስለ ዝዓብይ ናይ Pan-Africanism geopolitics ፍልጠት ዘለዎም ገለ እንተዝብሉና ቁርብ ምተማሃርና ምበልኩ::

      Peace!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ወይ ንሞት
    ወይ ንሂወት
    ኮነት መሬት

    ሕነቕ ተሓናነቕ
    ግንባር ምዕራብ ይሰንጠቕ
    ድፋዓት ሃዶሽዶሽ ይበል
    ንዑኡ ሴርካ ስዱንካ ስገር
    ይበሃል ኣሎ

    ክንደይ ማያ ዘይጸገበት
    ሂወታ ብዘይ ኣጋኣ ኣረከበት
    ‘ንታይ ዘለ ሕልፈት

    ኣፍሪቃውንሲ ካን ንውግእ ተፈጢርና

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat MM,

      ኣዬ ናትና ነገር
      ብምኢቲ ቢልዮን ብር
      ንመቐለ በሻሻ ክንገብር
      ኣብክንዲ ብሓምሳ ቢልዮን ብር
      በሻሻ መቐለ ንገብር?

      ከይንመሃር ንሃድም ንጎዪ ከንምህር
      ኣብክነዲ ነልምዕ ብመድፍዕ ነሕርር
      ነገድድ ክንስማዕ ከይንሰምዕ ንስወር
      ኮሌጅ ኣቃጺልና ፓርክታት ንኹስትር

      ናትካ የሰንብድ ናተይ የባህርር

      • Saleh Johar

        Hello Fanti,
        Let me alert MM
        Watch out MM the local wordsmith. It seems now you have a formidable rival. Who gets the trophy?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Memhir,

          tuf belo! Are you trying to have me decimated? You may as well hand him the trophy now and allow to me limp away with some dignity.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ፋንቲ
            ቀቲልካኒ!

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          ኣንታ ሳልሕ
          ‘ንታይ ገበርናካ? ‘ዛ ግጥሚ ናይ ፋንቲ ብ my mountain eye ጌረ ከንብባ ጸኒሐ።
          ተገሪመ ኣድናቖተይ መጠን ኣይነበሮን። ቆቢዕ ዘለኒ መሲሉኒ ክደሊ ዳርጋ ሰዓት የሕሊፈ። ስለምንታይሲ ታ ቆቢዕ ለቢሰ ሽዑኡ ኣውጺአ መታን ክሰግድ። ናይ ኣኽብሮት ማለተይ ‘ዩ። የግዳስ ኣብ ገዛይ ጥር ትብል ቆቢዕ ለካ የላን።

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ፋንቲ
        ሓሙሻይ መዓርግ ግጥሚ!

        ውሕሉላት ቃላት
        ስነ ጥበባዊ ቅብኣት
        ረዘንቲ ምዕሩጋት
        ስጡማት

        እወ! ሓቅኻ
        ኣፍ በዚሑ
        እዝኒ ውሒዱ
        ዝዛረብ ምበር
        ዝሰምዕ ተሳኢኑ

        ኣብ ክንዲ ኮፍ ኢልካ ኢሂን-ምሂን
        ኣነኳ ካባኻ ኣይሓምቕን
        ውግእ ወረ ውግእ
        ቀላጽሞም ገቲሮም ሓንጎሎም ሕብእ
        ኩላትና ተታሒዝና ግዲ ንጠፍእ
        እዋይ መርገም

        ኴኑ ናትና ነገር
        ‘ንታይሞ ክግበር
        ‘ቶም ዝሓስቡ ናብ ማሕቡስ
        ኣብ ስልጣን ኮፍ!
        ‘ቶም ደናቁር
        ‘ቶም ኣብዑር
        ዋይ ክሓስም
        ክመርሓካ ከሎ ዕውር

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    Here is debate on France-24 on the turning point in Tigray and the military success, on the need of humanitarian to the needy Tigrian people, and on the preconditions set by the government of Tigray in order to observer the ceasefire. Have a say on the nature of the debate.

    https://youtu.be/1VFsz_EF1uE

    • haileTG

      Selamat Aman H,

      I listened to the debate early today. I seemed that they had few avenues to develop the topics discussed. This is understandable because the situation is fluid. On the ground, PMAA has defeat on his hands. He is speaking tough but making concessions on the ground. He knows the western Tigray issue can only be resolved by concession or military confrontation. It can’t be maintained. The latter option is high risk because if he sustains a second major defeat in the battlefield, it will have severe political backlash. But he can’t keep the pressure lid down for too long without a concession on the withdrawal issue. Hence, if services are being restored, that is indirect recognition of the government of Tigray. If he goes ahead with the humanitarian access and he has already agreed on the investigations of war crimes, including the withdrawal concession will pretty much see him ready to ink the ceasefire agreement. There is no guarantee he will opt for it but politically it is the safest option than risking a full scale military engagement that could go either way. That is my 2-cents.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Mr. Amanuel Hidrat and HaileTG,

      It was good topic but I agree with Haile on “few avenues to develop.” I felt I listened to part one of a three part series.

      Having said that, I think they all seem to think the cease fire is incomplete or dishonest although they were, obviously, diplomatic. Blockade is one form of war, it was being used before the ceasefire, and it is still in place. Abiy also said he can recruit up to 500000 strong army in short period which may farther indicate the ceasefire is indeed a ruse.

      • Saleh Johar

        Ras Fanti,
        I think a while ago I heard AAA complain. He said something to the effect, after a national campaign to recruit soldiers during the war against Tigray, only 5000 people came forward. I wondered, how come a warlike country of 110 million was so un-attracted to fighting! Well, I am hoping it’s cultural fatigue, for a change 🙂

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Memhir,

          I almost missed this one. You reminded me how he never says anything that does not contradict something else he had said.

          On this one there are now 3 versions:
          1. 27-30% Ethiopians are poor. Therefore, we can recruit a million or more soldiers if we so wish.
          2. We called, pleaded, begged, and only 5000 [no one] showed up!
          3. We could raise 500,000 immediately!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Fanti,
            I can see another Nobel prize for the colonel. This time for a contradiction equation. Perhaps.

          • Abi

            MM
            I don’t think PMAA will be a noble prize winner this time around.
            It is time for the world to acknowledge President Isaias Afeworki, the brave and peaceful leader of Eritrea with a Noble Prize.
            If Obama got the prize for doing nothing or make things worse, any person is qualified to win that prize.
            Any person including the writer of this earth shattering comment!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Why not? DIA’s complain is that if a criminal like colonel Abyot receives a Nobel prize, why not him? Agreed.

          • Abi

            MM
            Agreed!!!!
            Now that Obama brought the standard too low, anybody who can fog a mirror can win it.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            You may have a point here. Let’s see:
            Obama has a law degree. From where? Harvard. What? this must be fake news. Oh, he is the first AA president of the USA [2 timer as well!]. Yes, you heard me. Also his wife is from Harvard and has same or better qualification. Unbelievable!

            DIA, the boss of Adi-Halo, was expelled [not drop-out, mind you], from AA. What? Yeap!
            The little colonel, wannabe a king, claims to have a PhD. From where? Have no idea. Looking at his recent plan, as a colonel, he doesn’t look like he has any military experience. Hmm…how did he became a colonel. Something fishy here.

          • Abi

            MM
            Obama won the prize just a year after his election. That means he won the prize on a credit basis. You know like ወደፊት በወለድ የሚከፈል ዱቤ:: ሊብያን አውድሞ ብድሩን ከፍሏል::
            Attending Ivy League school is not a guarantee for noble peace prize.

            The rest of your zibazinke is ignored. You are proudly showing your lack of knowledge in everything Ethiopian.
            I give up. You are not teachable.

        • Brhan

          ኣቶ ሳልሕ
          ኢትዮጲያ ሰዓቱ ወሩ ኣመቱ የተለያየ ኣቆጣጠር ነው።
          ኣቢ ያኔ 5000 ብቅ እንኳ ኣላሉም ሲል እና ዛሬ ደግሞ ግማሽ ሚልዮን ብቅ ይላሉ ሲል የተለያዩ የኣቆጣጠር ዘይቤዎች ( ኣበሻ ና ፈረንጅ) ተጠቅሞ እንዳይሆን

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Fanti (the gentleman)

        Tell to the PFDJites: Tsil-E Zeri-Ekum
        Fikri Ayti-tsebeyu. They harvest what they saw.

        Regard

  • Abi

    Hello Residents and Visitors
    Egyptian news is reporting that Ethiopia has started filling the GERD!!!!!!

    “አባይ ሞልቶ ጣና ሞልቶ እሳት ይዞረዋል
    ይጠፋታል እንጂ መች ይሻገረዋል!!!”

    ዘራፍ !!

    • leGacY

      Abi,
      Sounds this village idiot is looking to divert attention. Not surprised by this decision coming on the hill of his humiliating deaf under the TDF. This impetus man will endanger this project. Let alone a huge undertakings as this one I would not trust this ignorant guy to do my grocery.

      • Abi

        leGacY
        I know you got a very high standards when you go grocery shopping. Definitely you can’t trust PMAA buying you smart carrots. Don’t worry buddy, he got sticks for your transgressions:)
        Anyway, አቢይ አባይን እየሞላው አቢዮታዊ አቢም በደስታ መላ ቅጡ ጠፍቶት ጮቤ እየረገጠ ይገኛል!!!
        This project is self protecting from any and all attacks.

        • leGacY

          Hi Abi,

          “ This project is self protecting from any and all attacks.”

          I have found Chat Yekamme wotat promise more reassuring than Abi’ statements .

          kem bisiwwa zisekhere beg-e bumping onto anything . Tiny man leading this country to hell.

          • Abi

            leGacY
            ግብፆችና ሱዳኖች ግድቡ በተፈጥሮም ሆነ በሰው ሰራሽ አደጋ እንዳይፈርስ በቀን አስር ጊዜ እንዲፀልዩ ታዘዋል የሚል ጭምጭምታ ይሰማል:: እስቲ ጆሮህን ጣል አድርግ …

            The Mighty King of Kings, His Excellency Emperor Haileselassie planned it, The Mighty King Abiy filled it.
            ሃሌሉያ!!!!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ‘ንታይ ዝበለ ውግእ ኣርፊዱ ኣብ ዓዋተ?
    መኣዲ ምስትወደአ ኣርኪብና። ኬፍና ሴርኩሞ።

  • iSem

    Awate citizens:
    Unlike YiAkl, unlike AAN, the Democratic Organization for the Blin Nation issued a solidarity message with the Tigray ppl

    • Saleh Johar

      iSem,
      An interjection if you may:
      At the moment the political situation in our region is in a state of confusion. However, I have yet to see or hear a significant number of Eritreans who gloat over the misery of the people of Tigray. It’s a tragedy by all standards. However, there is a clear split among activists. Eritreans between those who tie their struggle as an integral part with the TPLF and between those who believe let’s go it alone. Tigrayans, who recognize the choice of Eritreans and between those who are victimizing all due to the historical memories of all sorts and the recent bigoted onslaught. That’s natural and such divisions need to be addressed with a cool mind and not partisan outlook. As for the other part of Ethiopians, they never saw Eritrea as a country but merely a sea outlet regardless of the Eritrean stakeholders. So, the partisan alliance and solidarity with the Tigrayan victims should not be blurred. It’s clear and should be taken as such. Myself, I do not believe Eritreans should be coerced into accepting one position against the other for temporary partisan gains. And alliance on behalf of Eritreans should take into consideration both positions and not try to show off too much of others’ strength as if they own the day. And we should not March to the unknown by forgetting past experiences. If a solution is required, then there should be unequivocal statement to assure Eritreans the far and recent biases and bigotry is disowned. I think 🙂

      • iSem

        HI Saleh:
        Interjection: Etfidel
        If there are significate number of Eri who gloat over: all pfdj supporters gloat over. You tell me how significant is their numbers
        Go it alone vs TDF alliance: I suspect you know, I believe that if one agrees that PFDJ/IA/ or G1 are the existential threat to everything Eritrea: its sovereignty, its posterity, its culture, its diversity, then it is hallal to see our struggle against our common enemy. I could not see the fallacy of this logic. The detractors tell me, that there is no free lunch, yes, but we can make the lunch as cheap as possible, A bad metaphor but metaphor that conveys the message nonetheless.
        The split between activist: my own take is that they are afraid of Tigray creating the Agazian state that will alienate the Muslims in Eritrea. I hope you appreciate that I will never go for that, although I once loved/admired the skirt a beautiful girl was wearing instead of the beauty (or was it a scarf) LOL.
        Also, the equivocation of the other activist about how PFDJ is putting our reputation and lives in danger by invading Tigray with the murdererfs of yester years, who have dreams beyond what is happening now, is astounding. That is is why the debate is heated. But not as heated as what our ppl are going through. Also the fear that TPLF is after sea access while we have the medmer dude and IA is just crazy, there is some illogicality to it
        “…….victimizing all due to the historical memories.” But IA’s EDF is not victimizing due to past memories, there is nothing new to their knack for victimizing, they have perfected it in Eritrea and they are starts at it in Tigray. If I have missed what you meant, egil atensseka
        I was going to say they perfected it in Sahel, but I do not want you to mad at me LOL

    • Solomon Seyum

      WuurAA humbroqunn iSEM, Grum. Werkeitille!

      Kofo HaliEmma senni hakieka?

      It is one hour before midnight .., it is still a holiday in the USA….

      Bilnn Nation!
      https://youtu.be/GYoUHYydXVA

      tSAtSE

    • Solomon Seyum

      Selamat iSEM,

      wurAA humbraqun? Grum.

      It is still holiday…

      You said Bilnn Nation.., here you go.

      https://youtu.be/GYoUHYydXVA

      tSAtSE

      • Abi

        Selam Solomon
        Thanks.
        Asmara looks very quiet. I expected more people to dance.

        • Solomon Seyum

          Selamat Gash Abi,

          Asmara is busy tending to the wounded.

          Compared to these guys, you were sweet hearts. Send Amhara and Fano to defend the northern borders. The Tigray wanna be nation or a country plan from long ago was to annex Eritrea and be the center of the Federal republic of Ethiopia. Eritreans and the Amhara were suckered by AAA.

          Look who will gain and who would loose if they succeed. There was absolutely no military confrontation between the ENDF and EDF.

          It was the Amhara and Eritreans who were bleeding. AAA and the TPLF lead EPRDF planned the whole thing. I will post a video where PMAA was lecturing the top brass of the ENDF.

          TPLF weakened their rival the Amharas, the Oromos Oneg Shene weekend and uprooted Amharas from their homes, Eritreans bled and were backstabbed, and now all efforts will be north bound. The 9000 ENDF POW will join TDF.

          Isaias and the Red Sea were the target from the get go.

          No one was more prepared than the Weyane….

          Ask the Awate residents what the Tigrigna word Aytitehamell means.

          tSAtSE

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Shalom ! Shalom ! Shalom !
    Hello forum @ Awate

    After so many denials, hesitations, rejections and even calling
    the comments I were making lies certain groups have finally
    come to adopt or accept them without any preconditions.
    As our Tigrigna saying goes,
    ” Tehasamay Guasas Misihu zibelkayos Diraru Yikono ”
    But there still is one vicious futile attempt . And that is
    To separate or Divorce my ideas from myself inorder
    to own those fruits of my hard work and sacrifice. No way
    it is not gonna happen !
    What is the reason of so much hate and jeleousy towards
    one who is educated and scholar and studied higher edu.
    and made it his lifestyle.
    When I observed it everyone came and streamed through
    that steam I with few others paved it , yet would not like to
    acknowledge it.
    I need no money making higher institution in the capitalist
    world sell me certificate. But I would like to tell you I have
    studied extensively over ten yrs at my own choice and my
    own pace independently without trying to make one happy
    going out of the truth and the course at one of the top higher
    educational institutions of the US THE UW.
    I do not need anybodys approval or bow for no one but only
    for the universal truth and the universal wisdom.
    It is so amazing the distance some travelled not acknowledge
    my education or to admit my learning.
    But FYI
    it was only a preview or only the tip of the iceberg.
    and
    I MEAN IT !

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    The FT reports:

    “TPLF officials claim to have more than 9,000 Ethiopian prisoners of war and say their priority now is to push all opposing forces out of western Tigray so they can establish a supply corridor with neighboring Sudan. They claim to have up to 30,000 troops waiting there to join the fight.
    “Militarily, there is no problem in taking over western Tigray,” a TPLF official told the Financial Times. “The aim now is to try and open the corridor with Sudan.”

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      If TDF tried to move an inch towards west, that will be the last time we hear about them. Ethiopians don’t tolerate foreign aggression. We will go back to mekele and የነበረው እንዳልነበረ ይሆናል::

      • haileTG

        Teregaga wendime Abi,

        Everyone is a winner in peace. Sudan is offering its good offices, that is the place to be now.

        • Abi

          ኃይልዬ አርከይ
          ተረጋግቻለሁ እኔ ያንተ ወንድም!!
          Sudan is crazy enough to support TDF for the time being. Those in Sudan will be in Sudan refugee camps for the next three to four generations. Those thugs የኢትዮጵያን መሬት ዳግመኛ አይረግጡም::
          In case you haven’t paid enough attention ( due to partying and live reporting from Mekele) the Eastern Sudanese adm has signed an agreement ( I know, I know it is bizarre) with Ethiopia recently. Sudan doesn’t want to complicate the situation further by supporting TDF.

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            Don’t lose hope! News coming out of Tigray today is saying that partial electricity services have started. This is a good start.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ወንድሜን ምን ነካብኝ ይህን ሰሞን!!!!
            በጭለማ እንዲዋጡ ሳይሆን በጥሞና ብርሃኑ እንዲታያቸው አስቦ ጀግናውና ሩህሩህ መሪያችን ፈቅዶ የተደረገ ነው::

            በጀትም እኮ ተመድቦላቸዋል:: አልሰማህም እንዴ ወንድምአለም??
            አንተ ደግሞ ያለወትሮህ ደህና ነገር አያመላክትህም::

      • iSem

        Hi Raas Abiyot:
        Tdf is not our of the woods yet, but this smeary arrogance was the reason your brethren were floating in the red sea in 1991 and it is now the reason for the 9000 prisons. Do the math, nay arithmetic how many are dead, wounded and missing in action.
        Drones are gone now it is man to man, woman to woman. Zeraf Zeraf may help you go to Mekelle, but NOT one piece. Time for shinfaa and zaagol
        If I would bet, it will be much easier to make Amharic official language in Eritrea than you going back to Mekelle in one piece, that train has left.
        With the visionless Abiyot Ahmed Ali, the best thing/result you will achieve is ungovernable Ethiopia with no winner. But you have options from different dabbo: refined, rye, whole wheat, multigrain. So take your pick: somalia, rwanda, Bosnia, dar-Alfor

        • Abi

          iSem
          I forgot 1991 incident where my brethren floated in the Red Sea.
          Thank you very much for reminding me of that event.

          • iSem

            Abi:
            Pleasure is mine. But hey were not having fun, they were not swimming. They were dead. Rotting

          • Abi

            iSem
            The thing is some Eritreans thought that my brethren were swimming in the sea. They did not know. You should have told your people that the Sea is a dangerous place to hang out.
            Some went to give birth in the sea and now rotting with the unborn baby hundred meters under.

          • iSem

            Abi:
            I already them and they told me the reason they are giving birth in the sea is that your man, the bandit, IA stole the country and he kicked them out. So take your man back to Gonder. We will guarantee you plenty of dabbo for the next 3000 years

  • Abi

    Hello Residents and Visitors
    “ለታመመች ዶሮ በሬ አይታረድም”
    ( ክቡር ዶር ኮሎኔል አብይ አህመድ የኢትዮጵያ ንጉሥ)
    What does it mean?
    ለደረቀ ቅርንጫፍ ዛፍ አይቆረጥም!!!

    • Admassie

      ጌታው ራሥ አቢ፡-

      ኧረ ጌታው ይቺን የዛፍ ምሳሌ ደጋገሟትሳ! ቢያወጉ ቢያወጉ ጨዋታዎ ሁሉ ከቅርንጫፍና ከግንድ ፈቅ አለማለቱ ቢገርመኝ ጊዜ፡-

      እንዲያው እኒህ የተከበሩ፣
      ዳዊትን የደገሙ እውቀት ያዳበሩ፣
      ከቶ ምን ሆነው ይሆን መቆማቸው፣
      በቅርንጫፍ እና ግንድ ላይ ተንጠላጥለው፡፡
      ተቆራርጠው ይሆን ከሥራቸው ?
      ከሥረ መሰረታቸው?
      እላለሁ ያለወትሮዬ
      ምን ልሁነው አንቱዬ!

      በታላቁ መጽሃፍ … በዘፍጥረት ላይ እንደሰፈረው፣
      መጀመሪያ ሥር ነበር ነው እሚለው፣
      ሥርም ግንድን ወለደ ግንድም ቅርንጫፍን እንደዛው፡-))
      ታዲያ ደርሶብዎት ይሆን ዝንጋኤ?
      ይሰውርዎትና ከጸላኤ፡፡

      በቀርማ አርስዎን መሳይ የተከበሩ፣
      ዳዊትን የደገሙ እውቀት ያዳበሩ፣
      ከቶ ምን ሆነው ይቆማሉ፣
      ሥር አልባ ግንድ ነኝ እያሉ፣
      መቼም ከእርስዎ ባለውቅም ቅሉ፣
      ከሥሩ ተለይቶ የቆመ … ግንድ ነኝ እያለ እሚፎገላ፣
      ግንድ ነው ሲባል ግን አልሰማሁም…ሲባል እንጂ ገንዲላ፣
      የቆራጭና የፍላጩ ሲሳይ … ግፋም ሲል የወሮ በላ፡፡
      እላለሁ ያለወትሮዬ፣
      ምን ልሁነው አንቱዬ!፡-)))

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Abisha,

      It would have been more economical to say: teshenfenal, but his truthphobia must be stronger than we thought. Poor kid!

      • Abi

        Fantastic
        “የታረደች ዶሮ መሞቷ ላይቀር ስትንፈራፈር ልብስ ታቆሽሻለች” ይላሉ አበው
        Poor kid? Really?
        “ግንበኞች የናቁት እርሱ የማዕዘን እራሥ ሆነ” ይላል ታላቁ መፅሐፍ

        ስንቱን አስተምሬ እዘልቃለሁ?
        ፅናቱን ይስጥህ በለኝ ፋንትዬ

  • leGacY

    Good Day Awate Community!

    We live in a “re-runs world”. Don’t we? Hollywood has long stopped creating new content. Musicians rarely release new albums. Blacks and whites are now revising 70’s hairstyle (Afro and Tony Blaire)

    Well to add to that ,our FETARIACHIN seems to have run out of new content and decided to re-run an old timeline this week. I am talking about the last weeks of Mengistu Hailemariam’s days. You would recall this was the week where Menge decided to close the country to teach us the history of Amhara. I do remember him telling us there is no such a thing as “Amhara.” It was also a week prior to that he was berating his Yetwokayoch Minster Sibseba how the tigray people ” Kitachi wogun.”

    and …..

    What do you know! Man-child was lecturing us yesterday how Amhara is a kind person and tigraway priests have killed our soldiers bla bla….and to top that, we are hearing the commencement of “Affessa” season. No, it is not a the name of a new Amazon release. This is process of government solders nabbing young men from the streets at night to send them to battlefield.

    Call it history repeating/rhyming itself or God being just damn lazy like the rest of us, these are indeed time fit for the old Japanese adage of “May you live in interesting times!”

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Legacy,

      Indeed history is “repeating and rhyming”. History is replete of recycled events if not in appearance but in its discourse. How many times the ugly acts of genocides did we witness, as a discourse of history, just in our lives? Too many to count them. So, as far as Ethiopians want to keep the union of the empire with their inherent hate to each other, the recycle of history and wars will persist to exist. I hope the Tigrian leaders will not be deceived, once again, after all the atrocities and destructions that has been fallen on their people. I don’t see the interest of Tigray people with in the Ethiopian empire. They are capable enough to build a self-relied state of their own. Natural resources and sea ports are not the determining factor to have your own state. To have industrious people is the determining factor to build a strong and viable state. I truly believe the Tigray people have that character to build their own state -a state capable to defend itself and develop economically. If land locked Ruwandan can be self-administered and develop, why not the hard working Tigrians?

      Regard

      • leGacY

        Hi Amanieley,

        I will agree on the God part but I will respectfully disagree on this one:

        “I don’t see the interest of Tigray people with in the Ethiopian empire.”

        Running away is not the solutions. We have always been Ethiopians and shall forever remain to be Ethiopians. We must continue the journey of rewriting Ethiopian history in our own image. The ultimate sign of power is jamming your agenda down your opponents throat and make them say how delicious it is and let them serenade you how you are God’s gift to humanity.

        If we can only exterminate this cancerous TPLF then every thing would be possible.

        I ask you this my brother….how does one…

        Atswarat AddiAbba arekibha kheyd’khas Mequelle mikhuraff…

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Legacy,

          It is okay to agree to have disagreement sometimes when we have different perspectives on the issue at hand. But can you say it in English the last sentence. I can’t make, though it is tigrigna.

          • leGacY

            Hi AH,
            I was airing my grievances of how they handed over the military in ADDIS and retreated to Mequelle to sulk . Any freshman would see this from a mile that this is a vindictive society and zero-sum game the order of the day..

            No one is re-writing history. I think “shaping” or “influencing” probably would be the more apt word.

            I see no other way but to press forward. It seems there is not escaping of Misery. Misery is coded into the fabric of our DNA. We might as well shape what kind/how much of it we can tolerate.

        • Abi

          Hello leGacY
          Samiti, Fantsh, Paul, T Kifle and many more TPLF permanent representatives and visitors successfully argued that TPLF and People of Tigray are one and the same. I tried to argue against but failed miserably. አፈር ነው ያስጋጡኝ!
          Here, I see you calling the Mighty and አይበገሬ TPLF as a cancer and wish to exterminate it.
          You are a little different to say it nicely.

          • leGacY

            Hi Abi,
            A: I never argued that . B: Supposedly even if I did say that, where is the sin in changing my view as new information comes to light ?

            Hard to keep up with what you believe in . I seem to remember you singing to a different tune about Eritrea back then and now merely being reduced to a tiffozo.

            Don’t get your horses up. Our end goals behind those statements are miles apart. You —advancing the cause of Neftgna Me-defending the plight of ma people .

          • Abi

            Hello leGacY
            A- I didn’t say you argued about it.
            B- change of mind is always welcome.

            I always sing for Ethiopia. If Eritreans sing with me, I welcome them anytime. Day or Night!
            Long live ነፍጠኛ!!!!!!
            Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow!!

            Defending the plight of your people is always appropriated . Is it also a smart idea if you don’t invite mayhem to them in the future.

          • leGacY

            HI Abi,

            I think we both are driving at a different conclusion from this crisis.. Woyane missed the opportunity to break the choke-hold grip of Amhara nationalism on Ethiopia. As a result the Tigray people are paying the price now.

            Don’t despair…everyone has his/her day under this sun.

          • Abi

            IeGacY
            የወያኔ ፀሐይ ጨልማለች: ዳግመኛም አታበራም!!!!!
            The Tigray people could have, should have …dumped the weyane thugs and cooperated with the provincial government.
            They acted worse than weyane when they backstabbed the army that liberated them from weyane.
            PMAA has given them some time to quietly contemplate their future.
            I hope they become independent beginning of 2022.
            Ethiopians are tired of this circus.

          • leGacY

            Hi Abi,
            If you really believe what you have just said in light of the recent developments , you are even less astute than I have given you credit. This tiny man could hardly lead his horse to filwiha let alone to Tigray. Why is he so stupid? I swear I have had far intelligent carrots. It really hurts!

          • Abi

            leGacY
            Deeply Sorry for disappointing you. Looks like I failed your class. I try to do better next semester.

            You said you have had far intelligent carrots.
            My question is, how do you distinguish an intelligent carrot from a dumb carrot. Let me take an intelligent guess. The intelligent carrot is wilting so that you don’t eat it. You are funnier than I thought.

            Compared to Meles the giant, PMAA is definitely tiny.

          • leGacY

            Hi Abi,

            The land on their flat side when through them into a frying pan,,,haha.

          • iSem

            Abiyot:
            plagiarizing is noot allowed, you need to give credit to IA for የወያኔ ፀሐይ ጨልማለች: ዳግመኛም አታበራም

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hey iSem,
            Speaking of that, in a very few days, Apple will serve you cease or desist letter. using ixxx is patent infringement 🙂
            Sorry man.

          • Abi

            iSem
            Sorry I was not aware Isuye already said that . He also said GAME OVER!!!
            እኔ ምንም አልልም:)

          • iSem

            Abi:
            But both never materialized. The sun rose again and the game is not ever. But both were fulfilled onto him, his sun is dimming and his game seems to be over and the TPLF rose from the dead, only one person rose from he dead before, Jesus Christ, TPLF is the second

          • Abi

            iSem
            You forgot DebreTsion. ሞትን አሸንፎ ተነስቷል ይባላል:: ኧረ ሲዘምርም ታይቷል!! ችግሩ ግን የሞቱ ሰዎችም አብረው ሲዘምሩ ታይተዋል:: I could not stop laughing when I saw the clip where the old gangsters singing. Whoever posted that link should get በቀን አርባ ጅራፍ ለአስር ቀናት::
            Tplf is dead except we forgot to bury its tongue.
            ኢሱ ኬኛ has rejuvenated since Abichu came to power.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            …and the 3000 fake yrs of Ethiopian history goes to the drain.
            Your own highness Cheleme [sorry Demeke] said it few days ago. He clearly stated it he does NOT want to see Tigray as independent country b/c he thinks the rest will follow and there is no more that poor Ethiopia.
            What do you say to him?

          • Abi

            MM
            ትግራይ ልጆቿ ስላጨላለሙባት ደመቀ መኮንን ሊያደማምቅላት አስቦ ነው::
            As I told you several times before, I care less about the past 3000 years. There are more and bright years ahead of us.
            ኢትዮጵያ ሃዱርሲቱ!!!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Reality is sinking in….the Ethiopia used to know won’t be there soon. Forgive me for being greedy at the expense of the Keybahrachin neftegnas, but this will be the best gift for Eritrea. I thank for that little colonel for that. His stupidity will pay us handsomely. Again, please send my regards.

          • Abi

            MM
            No apology is necessary.
            The new reality is that Ethiopia is flying high. As I told you several times before, keep your ቀይ ባህር for your camels. We have plenty options to choose from. Djibouti, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan with road and train connections.
            “ለቆማጣ አንድ ጣት ብርቁ ነው”
            I don’t want to talk about your rusty, dusty, stinky, outdated, ports with people with outdated mentality.
            Better options all around.

          • Saleh Johar

            Ras Abi,
            The mutual exchange is equally brutal. However, I think you provoke people with your one-liners and then the discussion deteriorates. But you are lucky, the moderators, including me have a soft spot for you. I would say, if your friend is honey, don’t over lick them. It’s a saying from the guys who share yiu Nile waters.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I also have a soft spot for you.
            “ወዳጅህ ማር ነው ጨርሰህ አትላሰው”
            What prompted you to say what you said?

          • Saleh Johar

            Abi,
            Because the moderators are honey but I am “honeyer” 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            That is a lot of honey!
            ማር ሲበዛ ይመራል ይላሉ ጌታው! እርስዎ ይበቁናል: ለሁሉ ይተርፋሉ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            You have a point. Even though the ports became rusty and outdated because of our devil DIA, we have to take some responsibility as well. We still have some % of the population still admire this insane dude.
            We are not as smart as we think, to say the least.

  • Mez

    Hi all,
    1) it is of a special interest to see an eritrean opposition organization (ELF) is officially communicating on the war in tigray.
    1.1) we have to see this also in conjunction with GiE as a mater of vital interest.
    2) these days, tplf has a one time (rare opportunity) to recalibrate its:
    2.1) political/ cultural and,
    2.2) socioeconomic policies:
    3) within tigray proper,
    3.1) with the neighbors eritrea, and
    3.2) adjacent amhara and afar regions.

    Thanks

    • Brhan

      Hello Mez,
      How come the Oromo GiE surpassed the Eritrean GiE? What is the secret? Any ideas?

      • Mez

        Hi Brhan, probably population.
        Thanks

    • Solomon Seyum

      Selamat Memhreyy Mez,

      As some have argued that it is no longer TPLF but TDF and the People of Tigray Vs. (AAA & PP)+ (IA & PFDJ) + Amhara, I will start to argue, should TDF and Tigray choose war over peace with Eritrea, the war will for sure be TDF/Tigray Vs EDF and the Eritrean People.

      IA, PFDJ, EPLF, ELF, YiAkle… and the GiE are will no longer be relevant.

      The word Ayttitehamell comes to mind. Isaias Afewirqi Tehamillu iyyu. He was fooled. AAA’s military were lead to surrender by their commanders without fighting at all because after three decades of control, while AAA thought it wise to remove Tigrayans, he had no idea all the ENDF rank and file were very comprimisred. The atrocities in Tigray….

      I will return and elaborate on Aytitehamell…,

      Tigray simply built justification with its fake news in order to undue Eritrea..

      • Mez

        Dear tSAtSE,

        the cosmetic name change aside, tplf will may have now three big challenges:
        1) conflict with the amhara as tplf may want to re-annex the region west of tekeze river, and south of maychew.
        1.1) objective: get rid-off the people, but annex the land.
        2) conflict with eritrean (primarily ideological/psychological, but also military) to get a food hold in the eritrean society–this in the march towards the abay tigray.
        2.1) objective: get rid-off of pia, deconstruct/dismantle eritrea as we know today–and concoct everything towards “we the children of agazians”
        3) the conflict is becoming more and more localized (the vital players will be tplf, amhara, pia, and-less-and-less pmaaa)–all for their survival.

        Thanks

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    As a massive build up of forces continue in western Tigray, Sudan is calling on all parties to scale back and start negotiating.

    “A high-level meeting held in Sudan’s capital Khartoum expressed deep concern that the developments in Ethiopia may lead to negative impact on the regional stability, particularly the neighboring countries, Sudan’s Sovereign Council said in a statement…… There were renewed tensions in Tigray on the border with Sudan after the rebels managed to restore control over the region’s capital city of Mekele last week.”

    https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/rest-of-africa/tigray-conflict-sudan-calls-for-negotiation-3461158

    The inset image is a great shot, a typical candidate for National Geographic image.:-)

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas

    Joke of the day:

    A member of the UN investigation team calls ICC “Hello ICC.”

    ICC staff “Yes, Sir.”

    The member: ” I am calling from the horn of Africa, and I have caught three wanted persons by ICC

    ICC staff: Can you tell us about them?

    The member: two of them have number marks on their faces, one on his cheek and the other at the side of his eyes, respectively, and the other one is without any marks.

    ICC staff: Leave the two with marks. They’re innocent. Bring the one with out any marks. He is Dictator Isays Afewerki and he is who we want!

    • haileTG

      ኣንታ ብርሃን ዓርከይ

      ኣነስ ናይቶም ጥባሕ ጥባሕ ገጾምሲ ባህላዊ ንብሎ፡ እዞም ጥባሕ ጥባሕ ሓንጎሎም ግን ገዲዶምና። ወይ ኩሉ ኣይሕዝዎ ወይ ኩሉ ኣይገድፍዎ። ወረ ጥባሕ ጥባሕ እንታይ እያ ትበሃል ብእንግሊዝኛ? Slice Slice?

      • Brhan

        ሃይለ ዓርከይ
        ስራሕ 03። ኣብ ክንዲ ምስ ዓርገን ከይንተሓሳሰብ ( ቃል ድሩዕ ተዘክረኒ) ሸንኮለል ዘብሉ ኣይተሰኣኑን

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ወይ ጉድ ካብ መዓስ ደኣዮም ሰብ ህግደፍ ተሓለቕቲ ሰብ ጥባሕ ጥባሕ ኴኖም።
    ‘ምበኣር ‘ዞም [ጨሓማት ሓሙሻይ መስርዕ] ናብ ሰብ ጥባሕ ጥባሕ upgrade ጌሮማ።
    እዝስ ዝብኢ: ኣነ ሕያዋይ በጊዕ ‘የ ከም ምባል ‘ዩ ዘምስል

    • haileTG

      Hey MM,

      GERIMUNA ngeramay hibnayo:-)

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ኣተሃዳድማ ዕቡያት
    ናይ ሜዳ ስዑራት
    ንህዝቦም ቆጺረሞም ከም ጸማማት
    ከም ዕውራት

    ተሳዒርና ምባል
    ጎቦ እምባ ሶይራ ኮይናቶም
    ኣይሰዓርካናን ይብልዎ
    ነቲ ዝመከቶም
    ነቲ ዝኸትከቶም

    ሕጂ መን ተሪፉ
    ወራሪ ኣምሓራ
    ሓዞ-ኣርክቦ ኴኑ
    ኣብ ከባቢ ሑመራ

    ኣብ ሳልስቲ ድቕድቕ ናብ ዶብ ሱዳን
    ቅሒሙ ተሪፉ ናይ ልፍንቲ ዕብዳን

    ኣርሒቕካ ዘይምሕሳብ ክሓስም
    ዘይቅዱስ ኲናት ንመንከ ክጠቅም
    ተራእዩ

    ሕጂ ድማ ራማ
    ናብ ዋናታታ
    ኣትያ ኢሎማ
    ሰመዐት እዝኒ

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Why no trust in Eritrea’s opposition? >90+% of commenters here spend >95+% of their time on Tigray/Ethiopian affairs with 100% of this group endlessly assaulting Ethiopia’s Government and 100% of this group endlessly promoting the TPLF/TDF.
    *PIA should pay you handsomely for services well performed.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Dongolo

      “Selam all. Why no trust in Eritrea’s opposition? >90+% of commenters here spend >95+% of their time on Tigray/Ethiopian affairs with 100% of this group endlessly assaulting Ethiopia’s Government and 100% of this group endlessly promoting the TPLF/TDF.
      *PIA should pay you handsomely for services well performed.”

      I say the same thing everyday. Please help me understand here: which one infuriates you more

      A. – Their claim to know it all

      B. – Their obsession, love, and defense of TPLF without a limit

      I say the former

      Semere Tesfai

      • Dongolo

        Selam Semere Tesfai. Definitely it is the pretentious ‘Know It Alls’ that irk me the most.

  • haileTG

    Hi Awatista,

    We might hear tomorrow from PMAA on his address to parliament. He may give his response to the TPLF counter offer.

    https://youtu.be/ehtQ-qI6PqU

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas

    The writer and former Eritrean diplomat, Mr. Fethi Osman, wrote an interesting Arabic article at Erena https://erena.org/عين-راصدة-سقوط-مقلي-وظلال-الغد-الشاحبة/

    I want to share with you some points of the article.

    1)In this article, Mr. Fethi says, “For the sake of argument, let us say that IA conducted his war in Tigray (silently and without publicity) to defend Asmara because he said the TPLF was going to conquer Asmara. That kind of war is an offensive war where you cross your border to destroy the enemy’s power. But, says Mr. Fethi, with the return of TPLF to Mekele, the Eritrean side, like the Ethiopian side ( which has not accomplished any of its announced objectives), has lost the war.

    2) Another interesting point that Mr. Fethi included in this article is his assumption about creating a term by the US called “Peaceful dismantling”. The writer assumes the US might use this term in Tigray. The US is the strongest supporter of Tigray to remain in Ethiopia. Still, it might find it impossible to convince Tigrayans, who see the impact of being landlocked as better than being annihilated or staying in the Ethiopian cage.

    3) The writer concluded with the Ethiopian gov’t inability to controls Mekele Airport; the airport can be the destination to receive all kinds of weapons. The TPLF says Mr. Fethi might find what it desired: no tree, no water, but coming days are the most significant proof and test.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Brhan

      Paraphrasing his opinion, Mr Fethi says:

      A. – Let’s say, IA conducted his war in Tigray to defend Asmara; because he believed in his heart, the TPLF was going to conquer Asmara. When you wage an offenssive war crossing your borders, the objective is to destroy you enemy’s power. But, the Woyanes are not destroyed. Meaning: with the return of TPLF to Mekele, the Eritrean side, like the Ethiopian side ( which has not accomplished any of its announced objectives), has lost the war.

      B. – “Tigrayans believe, being landlocked is better than being annihilated or staying in the Ethiopian cage.

      C. -Therefor, the writer (Mr Fethi) concluds his opinion, with the Ethiopian gov’t inability to controls Mekele Airport; the airport can be the destination to receive all kinds of weapons.

      And this is my take on Mr Fethi’s opinion:

      1. – Not even a single civilian airplane would be able to land in Mekele without the full permission of the Ethiopian Federal Authorities and the Ethiopian Defense Forces. Ethiopian Air force and Ethiopian Air-Defense Batteries are capable of shooting any airplane in Ethiopian air space – except war planes from global powers.

      2. – Without a doubt, TDF and its government is caged and will remain that way until TDF and its Tigrean government comes to their senses and understands their Power and their imitations. Which won’t be a long time.

      3. – If the TDF and its Tigrean government makes a stupid miscalculation, and invades Amara Killil or crosses into sovereign Eritrean territories, all, the Ethiopian, the Amara, and the Eritrean Defense Forces have every right to defend their sovereign territories and their people. And to defend their sovereign territories and their people, it would be justified for both governments to occupy enough sovereign Tigrean territories along the Tigrean border, to serve them as a buffer zone. Therefore, the Tigrean government and the TDF forces have to factor-in this reality in their war calculations, if and when they initiate their preemptive war to secure a breathing room.

      Semere Tesfai

      • Brhan

        Selam Semere,

        Facts with proofs

        1)IA is defeated in this war

        Proof: Once the history of Ethiopia’s latest civil war is written, the battles of June could well be recounted as one of the great rebel victories of recent years. For it will explain how a group of insurgents in the mountains of Ethiopia’s northern region of Tigray routed two of Africa’s largest armies, Ethiopia’s and Eritrea’s, to reclaim Mekelle, their capital.

        The Economist July 01, 202

        https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2021/07/01/tigrayan-forces-have-routed-the-ethiopian-army

        2 & 3 No one can stand against people’s will

        Tigrayans have a choice about their destiny: I and you, even your friends that you started to understand very well lately, i.e., the West, can’t stand against the people’s will and their airports. Does this fact does need proof?

        4) Though it is not part of my input, I agree with you: miscalculation is stupid. DIA adventure in Tigray has proved it.

  • Dongolo

    Selam All. ‘there have been reports of widespread human rights violations against civilians after TPLF forces entered Mekelle and other towns in the region. The Ethiopian Human Rights Commission on Saturday issued a statement expressing concern for the safety of civilians in the region’

    • abdu

      Salam Dongolo and Abi
      Please try to find out what is going on the Muslims Properties in Raya and other places.
      Thanks
      Abdu

      • Abi

        Hello abdu
        I have heard many Muslims were killed in Tigray in the last several days. They are accused of collaborating with Tigray transitional government .
        There are also many killings in Tigray cities. As I always warned people here, we have to wait at least 15 days for the dust to settle down before we start accusing the rejuvenated leaders of Tigray.
        I see the Tigreans in this forum are crawling out of the rabbit holes all at once. ( ፊሽካ ሳይነፋ አልቀረም )
        They will hopefully tell us something.

      • Dongolo

        Selam Abdu. You might find the following of interest:

        ‘Terrorist TPLF Brutally Attacking Civilians In Raya Azebo

        On Jul 6, 2021
        ‘Addis Ababa July 6, 2021 (FBC) Following the unilateral ceasefire declared by the federal government of Ethiopia, the terrorist TPLF is perpetrating attacks against civilians in Raya Azebo located in Southern part of Tigray, according to Raya Rayuma Democratic Party.’..

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    “…..A statement from “The Government of Tigray”, released on Sunday by Getachew, said it would accept a ceasefire in principle if there were ironclad guarantees of no further invasions but a series of other conditions would need to be met before any agreement could be formalized.

    “Invading forces from Amhara and Eritrea must withdraw from Tigray and return to their pre-war territories,” the statement said….”

    https://www.egyptindependent.com/ethiopias-tigray-demands-troop-withdrawals-for-ceasefire-talks/

    What is the take of AT’s esteemed Tigrayan participants on this offer? Did it hit the right cord? Did it stop asking too little and short of your desire? Did it go too far than you anticipated?

    Thanks

    • Samuel

      Selam Haile TG,
      The international community is on the side of Tigray cause, thus Tigray government should be wise enough to not disappoint the UN and Western countries. Accepting the ceasefire with condition is smart move.
      Considering the self-important nature of Amhara elites and PFDJ leaders, and considering the deep insecurity they have, I don’t think they will accept the “status quo ante” condition. Thus, war is inevitable due to the nature of Amhara elites and PFDJ leaders. So, Tigray government accepting the ceasefire with condition is smart move, politically it will continue to hold the upper hand.

      From military point of view, right now,
      • TDF can move its resources easily from one point to another,
      • Well organized at core level.
      • The youth is very angry due to the atrocities committed by Amhara militia and EDF, thus they are joining TDF willingly to defend Tigray territory.
      • Due to the recent ENDF loss, the spirit of the enemy is psychological impacted/broken. Thus, TDF has high moral and real cause to fight.
      • In my opinion most Eritrean people (inside Eritrea) won’t be against TDF, I am certain enough that they will be on the side of TDF. Considering the professionalism of TDF, it won’t encounter resistance from the Eritrea people. Another important point is – there are Eritrean fighters alongside with TDF, so it will be a plus to convince the people.

      Note that Eritrea doesn’t have a military that can cover 1000 KM border, thus Eritrea border is porous border, you can break it easily. It’s impossible to dig trenches throughout the 1000 KM. Specially having the skills TDF has acquired it can penetrate the border anytime without heavy weapon. Eritrea can’t afford to put tanks and other heavy weapons throughout the 1000 KM.

      Generally, it is the right move to accept the ceasefire with condition, it will help to have political upper hand. The conditions won’t be accepted by Amhara elites and PFDJ leaders. Note that considering Abiy’s interest, he will accept the conditions, but Amhara elites won’t let him do that.

      Thanks,

      • Hashela

        Selam Samuel

        Before I leave to the southern hemisphere in two hours, I though I point out two crucial observatons that will help a swift advance of TDF to Asmera and, if needed, to Kararo.

        Firstly, the border length between Tigray and Eritrea is 350 km. So TDF will be not stretched and has less area to cover.

        Secondly and most importantly, Eritrean mothers are in full preparation to welcome TDF. You know, the usual things, እንጣጢዕ፣ ስዋ፣ ኣባዕከ፣ ዝግኒ። And they have also their ምራን and ምጽዓን ready to apprehend and constrain the fleeing EDF that is predominantly composed of strange ጥባሕ ጥባሕ።

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Hashela,

          Enjoy your trip. You forgot ሰቲ ሰምሀር ሒዘን ብጭራ ዋጣ ትዓጂበን መጺኻለይዶ እለን ክቅበላ::

          Yesterday they were telling us, the standing with EDF / Boka Haram is standing with its commander in chief therefore it’s standing with the dictator.

          We told them, crossing Eritrea and fighting will back fire and it will give life to PFDJ.

          Now the reality has sank in and the international community is pissed off, all the sudden the leader Dr. Debretsion says, “we need to be realistic. Regime change is the business of Eritrean people”.

          It must have been a tough night of anger and disappointment.

          Now they are saying “accepting peace in principle and with precondition” is important because the international community will be off our back.

          In the mean time:
          – we will continue the war with Eritrea, along the long boarder
          – let’s use the Eritrean opposition “in name only” but will be supported by TDF.

          For TDF or any former Tigray leaders, negotiation means only to by time. But it means nothing once it favours them and ready to disband it. We know this all along since the beginning of time and we don’t expect anything different.

          Like you said ወርቃዊ ጽሑፋት is just that, empty words.

          I hope the Eritrean government will not flinch an inch from the EEBC ruling and fight tooth and nail, and I am 100% sure the Eritrean people will support it.

          In fact, it’s should be a precondition for accepting any peace condition. I will go even further, I will blame the international community for not carrying out their obligation to enforce the boarder ruling and Eritrea has to use force.

          This is the time to solidify our position and secure our boarders. Unless we deal it today, it will never be solved. They will never leave us alone.

          • Hashela

            Selam Berhe

            “I hope the Eritrean government will not flinch an inch from the EEBC
            ruling and fight tooth and nail, and I am 100% sure the Eritrean people will support it”

            No worry. እንኳይዶ ሎሚ, ምሬት ጸልሚታን ጸቢባን ከላ መንግስቲ ኤትርትራ ነቕ ኣይበለን። በዚ ግዝያዊ ጎርባዕባኦ ኣይንሰከፍ ኣይንጣራጠር። When it comes to the border demarcation, time and the internationalስ law is on our side.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Ethiopia should do everything in supporting Eritrea in defending itself against rogue elements in the region.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Thank you for your support. In fact, this precondition of TDF, confirms who was the main problem for the demarcation.

            Ethiopian government and Ethiopian parliament has accepted the boarder ruling without any precondition. For that PM Abiy was awarded the noble peace prize and the world recognized it.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Always Remember( at least try your best) that yours truly has been saying that Badme should be returned to the rightful owners since 2013 in this website. Talk about unwavering support!!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            And you shall build an ocean front property:).

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Now you talking!!!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            በርሀ
            ካን ነዞም ሰላሳ ዓመታት ክንደይ ጀጋኑ ከፊልና ዝስጎጎናዮም ቪላ ኣብ ገመገም ባሕርና ክሃንጹ ትመባጻዕ ኣለኻ?
            ኣንታ ‘ንታይ ሸይጣን ናይ ብህርዳር ዋላ ዓዲ ሓሎ ጸፊዑካ?
            ተጠላቒኻ ዶ ሓቀይ?
            እዋይ ውርደት!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mehandis,

            Eritrea is always open for business. If Abi or anyone else wants to come and build a vacation home or a hotel or whatever as per the country rules he is welcome to do so.

            What we don’t like is those who wants to have it by force and tell us they are the gradians of our sea and waters, as if we can’t guard it ourselves.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Berhe,
            Exactly. And, who does say that, I mean the Key Bahrachin?
            The Amhara elite and the team colonel.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mehandis,

            ምሳኻ ብዙሕ ክካሰም አይደሊን እየ:: ናተይን ናትካን ፍልልይ ዝተረድአኒ ኮይኑ ስለ ዝስመዓኒ:: እቲ ሓንሳብ ሓንሳብ ትጽሕፎ ብዙሕ ስለተኸይፈኒ ክሐልፈኒ አይደልን ኢየ:: እዚ ሽግር ናይ ዓዲ ሓሎ ምስ ተውድኤ ክንጨርም ስለ ዝረአየኒ::

            We have to see based on what’s fact.
            Ethiopia under PMAA and endorsed by the parliament has accepted the boarder ruling without any preconditions.

            Anyone dreams and screams about qey bahrachin they can scream and dream all they want.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Berhe,
            ከም ሰብ ዓዋተ መጠን, የሕዋት ንዲና ናበይ ክንወሃሃብ!
            However, you need to take this serious. These Azema party and as well as PP, they keep talking about the Red sea that belong to them. This need to alarm every Eritrean. Ignoring this a grieve danger.
            They can’t fool us twice.

          • Abi

            MM
            When the Amhara elites run the show, Eritreans prospered and achieved the highest in every aspect.
            FACTS!!!
            When the Tigray elites run the show, Eritreans lost everything they managed to achieve during the Amharas reign.
            FACTS!!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            That is outrageously false.
            When DIA starts run the country by himself is when Eritrea to lose everything. As you clearly know by now, DIA is more Ethiopian that Eritrean at heart. How? Because he clearly told the whole world in an open audience, while he humping his chest.
            Pm Meles respect Eritrean sovereignty and so does the current President of Tigray Dr. Debretsion.
            Never hear of such thing from the little colonel or Dr. Birhanu Nega.
            So, the threat is from them, not from the imaginary Tihrayans.

          • Abi

            MM
            You are willfully confused about everything!!!!
            The point is, whether you like it or not, Eritreans were the cream of the society during The Mighty Amharas reign. When your friend Meles ruled, your eye color suddenly became a liability.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            That’s misleading, to say the least.

          • Abi

            MM
            “ You can’t handle the truth “ said the greatest actor.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            No, we don’t need to own the ports. Ownership is expensive. It is like owning a German car. We just want to use it free of charge. You make tons of money doing other businesses supporting the port activities.
            Just imagine how many truck drivers NEED lodging accommodations daily? You have to keep building hotels and storages and garages and bars and coffee shops and restaurants and grocery stores and department stores and and and … almost forgot ጎሚስታ. In other words, replace the camels with people who will be gainfully employed by the government or private businesses.
            And who doesn’t want to eat freshly fried fish with cold meloti beer at massawa or Assab? You can’t possibly satisfy the need for fish and beer in that area.
            Anyway, you know what is good for you. You are the economist, the engineer, the everything!!
            Don’t let Djibouti ,Kenya and Somalia eat your breakfast ,lunch and dinner.
            I like free lunch:)

          • iSem

            H MM, BY and Guad Abiyot and Tegadalai Semere Tesfai
            It appears that Abi will have lucrative nitch in the Eritrea BY and Semere Tesfai envision, He will establish ASL (Amharic as a Second Language) so the Qtaws the those with rusty Amharic skills can learn and improve

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            This is so funny, iSem! 🙂

          • Abi

            iSem
            You keep disappointing me!
            APL ( Amharic as a Primary Language)!
            Apply in person at 1234 Godana Abiyot, Asmara, Ethiopia.

          • iSem

            Hi Abi:
            I upvoted u for snappiness but you are wrong ask BY and ST and Hashela to apply at ፩፪፫፬ Godana Abiyot, Asmara, Ethiopia. Not 1234

          • Abi

            iSem
            If I apply the geez number then you have to help me translate it for BY and MM. I don’t want to confuse them. Besides, I don’t have geez numbers.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            I criticize the EPLF about a lot of things, but I never criticized them for the way they handled themselves during all those times, when dealing with Ethiopian civilians as well as Ethiopian public and civil infrastructure.

            The war was not with Qtaw or Bekele but with brutal regime. And it’s foolish and economical stupid to continue to hold grudges and that we are not able to move on and imagine a future of peace and development.

            Amharic Second Language, why not if it’s optional, same as all Eritrean have the option to learn Arabic as well. (Sudan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia), Ethiopia/ Amharic will just benefits us better. No one has ever been harmed by learning another language. Ever.

            If Japan can make peace with the US after dropping two atomic bomb, why not.

          • Saleh Johar

            BerheY,
            You belive what you are saying is correct. It may well be so but context is important. Do you really think reasoning that Amharic should be a second language when we don’t even have a platform to either debate or agree/disagree on that?

            You can’t stand at the gate of a church and preach atheism.

            The Arabs say, izza aredt in toTaa f’aTlib al musteTaE. If you want a positive result as a possible question. Very close. In brief, time and circumstances, that’s context is important. Drop it please.

          • iSem

            SGJ:
            And in a different context, I will love to learn Amharic as am fascinated by languages

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi iSem,
            ASL? In their dream. I hate saying this but amharic is ሓሳስያ to my body. I didn’t lose 50% of my family to learn amharic. I am not sure if amharic will be the first language in amhara region in about 10 more years.

          • Abi

            MM
            I absolutely agree with you. In the next 10 years the official language of the Amhara region and preferably the whole country should be English.

      • haileTG

        Selamat Samuel,

        I am in agreement with you on the diplomatic side, on the military side, I will have few things to say on the second paragraph. In my opinion, the position taken by the Tigray Regional Government is diplomatically smart. The UNSC, US, EU asked them to accept the ceasefire, they did. The same powers also called for withdrawal to pre-conflict positions, restart of services and investigations into war crimes and the Tigray government not only heeded those calls but also codified those as principle of acceptance. In other words, they have managed to have international opinion on their side. Since, both sides have now accepted the ceasefire in principle, the PMAA government is on the wrong side of international opinion in the work to have it implemented. Hence, that was a smart move.

        On the military side, there is a golden rule that keeps repeating time and again, including what we have seen in Tigray. This rule is that an invading force would ultimately suffer losses and can’t hold it together. Since, war is most likely, I don’t see any likelihood that TDF would venture for a full blown invasion of Eritrea to effect regime change. The risks are too great, the costs even higher. However, a localized conflict to alter the positions on the ground, my prove extremely costly to IA and may cascade into internal regime collapse of its own accord. As the ceasefire that is being hammered out is only awaiting the PMAA approval, if such a green light comes from Addis, it would cause a total collapse of the PMAA-Amhara-PFDJ alliance. So, where would be the wisdom of TDF changing the the nature of things into Tigray invasion of Eritrea from the current situation. As you saw in Tigray, once an external invasion was present, TPLF quickly exited the scene and TDF replaced it. This is standard in any external invasions, I doubt TDF would actively peruse that objective.

        Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

        • Metshaf Jigninet

          Selam Haile TG,

          TPLF needs access to the red sea to be self-reliant, not to mention the fertile ground that has been taken from them, or taken back depending on the source. Samuel is right about the importance of keeping international support, but not about that the Eritrean people wouldn’t resist TDF.

          They are banking on the support of deki Akele Guzai and Seraye, while vilifying deki Hamasien. You know all of this for certain, so I’m stating the obvious. Before I use to hear that Eritreas army is predominantly Tigringa and all of the sudden we hear about those who have Tbah Tbah. It is interesting how the narrative changes over the years to suit an agenda.

          I am worried that the support for the devil at the helm, IA, will get refuelled by Tigrayan elites.

          • haileTG

            Selam MJ,

            External invasion always pulls a whole society together. That’s what happened in Tigray. In 2006, AL shabab had little support in Somalia. Its ranks grew many folds in response to the Ethiopian invasion. That was the very reason to the creation of AMISOM. So, your last sentence will not surprise me.

          • Hashela

            Selam

            ኣይትጋገ፡ መሬትን ክብርን ኤርትራ ብኹሎም ደቃ እዩ ተሓልዩ ደሎ። ኣብ መጻኢ ውን ከምኡ።

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam Hashela,

            I never said they aren’t protecting Eritrea, but I do not support Eritrean troops in Tigray, nor do I support Tigrayan troops in Eritrea.

            My stance is clear. I only support a Western led intervention to topple the regime. Take it as you will.

          • Hashela

            ሰላም Metshaf Jigninet

            You know to which part of your statement I am referring,

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam Hashela,

            Fair enough. 🙂

          • Desbele

            Selam Hashela,
            “ኣብ ሊብያ ሞይቶም ይበሃል ኣሎ…” ሰሓቕ…” እንታይ ክገብሩ ከይዶም? ካብኡ ናብኡ እዞም ዝሰድዑ ካብ ውሱናት ከባቢ ናይዚ ሃገር እዮም። ቃል ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ።
            ክብሪ ኤርትራውያን ዘዋርድ ዘሎ ካብ ሓደ ከባቢ። ካብዚ ዓማጺ ዝሃድም ዘሎ ከኣ ካብ ካልእ ከባቢ ማለቱ እዮ።
            እቲ ጸላኢ ንሱ፣ እቲ ፈላላዪ’ውን ንሱ። ደገፍቱ ንሕና ንሱ።
            ካልእ ጸላኢ ሓሰው ካብ ምባል ነቲ ብቃልን ተግባርን ዘመስከረ ውልቐ መላኺ ምቕላስ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Desbele,

            Issayas knows the psychological fears of Eritreans and he is smart enough in framing those psychological fears to his interest. The Hashela’s, the Senere’s (T), the Beyan’s, the Mezs, are the products of those fears, and are reflecting and reactiing in the game of politics he (the despot) frame it, for their consumption. It is not that difficult to identify their languages and wishes in the contest of wars, politics, and social rifts of our societies.

            Regards

      • Peace!

        Hi Samuel,

        Your comment reminded me Paul Wolfowitz, the architect of the Iraq war, “We will be greeted as Liberators.”

        I guess TPLF knows better for not trying with all its resources the evil project requires

        Your problem is not Amhara elites or Eritrea rather lack of attainable dreams and clear ideologies. When it is looting time you prefer Ethiopia and in desperate times, of course, Eritrea.

        It is strange now you are seeking help from the same people you deported after confiscating their Entire life. ድወ ጆኮ ዝባሃል ideology የለን 🙂

        Peace!

      • abdu

        salam Samuel
        Note that Eritrea doesn’t have a military that can cover 1000 KM border, thus Eritrea border is porous border, you can break it easily. It’s impossible to dig trenches throughout the 1000 KM. Specially having the skills TDF has acquired it can penetrate the border anytime without heavy weapon. Eritrea can’t afford to put tanks and other heavy weapons throughout the 1000 KM.
        so TPLF will get in to Asmara while brush their teeth.
        Aye Fekhera
        Abdu

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam HaileTG,

      The Getachew Reda hinted, and also vice president Fetlework mentioned, declaration will be fully revealed soon.

      An opinion based only on what has been hinted so far may not be as sound, but until then, the “agreement” must include Prosperity Party leaders’ surrender, all genocide perpetrators held accountable, and transitional government established until the next election in three years.

      There should be no agreement on anything with an illegal group whose governing system is solely based on universally known tactless lie.

      Prosperity Party’s declaration of unilateral ceasefire is nothing but a ruse to re-group and re-arm. True to its sociopath nature, it is continuing holding Tigaru hostage by blocking trucks with much needed emergency aid and boldly volunteering to [only] discuss Tigray matters with “registered organization leaders and elders.”

      Among other key points, the above mentioned declaration will include that any policy passed by Prosperity Party after last September 1st is entirely rejected and annulled.

      • haileTG

        Hey Fanti,

        It’s been few years since we got some politics out of you, I don’t want to waste this rare opportunity:-)

        I believe that there are two types of languages spoken in politics: local language and international language. If you pitch your wording as closely as possible to international language, it is easy to mobilize world opinion. Tigray leader spoke in that language and world media picked it up easily. Today, the headlines are: Tigray leaders ask withdrawal to accept ceasefire. Very easy and understandable for the whole world. The local language is well contained inside that so all is handled smartly in my opinion.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat HaileTG,

          I have no idea what you are talking about but whatever it is it is not my fault.

          • haileTG

            Haha..Fanti,

            Nothing bad! If you take PMAA position of giving Tigrayans time to reflect for example, it is a local language that gives meaning to his base. At least they cheered and clapped it. But, it is not an international language because the world can’t make sense of such wording in political or practical terms.

            Eritrea confused the world with its no war no peace terminology, for want of an effective communication tool.

            The current position of Tigray is easy for the world to understand and support. However, its implementation would only facilitate the local language that Tigray Meqberitom ketkewn eya.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat HaileTG,

            Correct. For example, Getachew watered down his earlier “we will go to Asmara and/or Addis to ensure lasting security” statement a few days earlier into something more “political” along the lines you mentioned.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            I don’t know if you notice but I think when you have the opportunity to praise TPLF/ TDF you seem to pick words or acts to criticize Eritrea. My advice is, please stick to the praise and leave the unwanted criticism.

            For example this morning you said, when asked why those POW were wearing ሽዳ, as ENDF wears boots.

            1. The Praise: TDF must have swapped their boots for ሽዳ. “TDF must have offered them shoe…unusual and kind.” Never mind, if you believe anyone in his right mind can buy this.

            2. The Criticism: “In 1991 about 90000 Ethiopian troop captives were sent walking barefoot across Ethio-Eritrea border.” I understand you retracted this when SGJ told you that they were not barefooted those he saw in Zalambesa. Never mind there was no 90,000 PoW, when the war was over. All the soldiers were given free pass to go where they want to go and the Eritrean mothers gave them water and food on their way out. There was no killing, no revenge and no shooting. The only words were መሳኪን አዲኦም ትደፋእ. Question: why do you bring Eritrea in the story for something that happened 30 years ago.

            Another example.

            The Praise: The current position of Tigray is easy for the world to understand and support.
            2. The Criticism: Eritrea confused the world with its no war no peace terminology, for want of an effective communication tool.

            Do you actually think Eritrea is incapable of effective communication. Eritrea position was one and the same “no ifs no buts accept the ruling final and binding”. That’s from the article of the Algeris agreement. Everything else, was ተቅሚሙ ዝተዘርበ.

            You can praise TPLF communication all you want. By the way, double speak, may have worked in the old times, but in today world and time of information it will back fire. It’s best to stick to the truth and facts, don’t underestimate the capacity.

            I think the parade of the pow is very bad political gamble. They should know that those soldiers were carrying out orders. This will enrage the other side and endanger the lives of their citizens who are behind the “enemy lines”.

            I would never praise

          • Abi

            Berhe
            The lousy drama produced by the retarded TDF leaders will backfire BIGLY. The military represents the whole country. What is sad is the greatest and most sophisticated Saints of all are cheerleading that awful drama.

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ወንድም አማች:

            “What is sad is the greatest and most sophisticated Saints of all are cheerleading that awful drama.”

            I think you need to learn Tigrigna and you need to listen to Tigrigna “patriotic” songs – a lot. In the North (በሰሜን) Kalashnikov, a bible, and a cross are inseparable. I suggest you listen to ኣደይ-ኢታይ’s song at your earliest convenience

            እዛ በትረይ፡ ካላሽን ተትኾነ
            ንጸላእተይ፡ ምደርዓምኩላ ኣነ ውነ

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            Why bother? Soon speaking Tigrinya will be limited in the bedroom with reinforced concrete walls. The reckless drama has put thousands and thousands of people in cages.

            ይቺ ድንጋይ : ህብስት ብትሆንልኝ
            ጠኔዬን ( ረሃቤን): አስታግስባት ነበረ

            ጀነራል ምግበ ሳይሆን አይቀርም የዘፈነው

          • haileTG

            Hey Berhe,

            Your Eritrea = PFDJ is a non-starter for me.

            We have to agree to disagree on this.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            So Eritrea of 1991 (that you tried to demonize) for handling Ethiopian PoW was not your Eritrea?

            As to your slippery slope, you have been nothing but flip flopping and slipping on a slippery slope.

            I hope TDF don’t take your slipping advice.

          • haileTG

            Dear Berhe,

            91 Eritrea that put Bitweded underground isn’t my Eritrea but PFDJ.

            Your desperate attempt to ignite religious animosity in Eritrea by sharing extremists websites and videos is far dangerous than I could ever be.

            Calm down and reflect.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            So according to you the whole Eritrea was a mistake. እዚ ትኸዶ ዘለኻ ሸታሕታሕ ሕጅስ መትሐዚ ስኢናሉ::

            I shared extremist views? I am assuming this is related to AAN? አንታ ኅይለ በጃኻ እባ ዒብ ግበር: ሓሓሊፍካ ዘረባ ምጥዋይ ሸለል ምስ በልና: ነብስኻ ከመይ ይገብረልካ: አልዕል አቢልካ ሰብ ምውንጃል::

            Have you even listen to some of the guests and what they talk about. They are Eritreans and they discuss Eritrean matters. You seriously think you can sell this? ምሕረት የውርደልካ:: ካብ አምጻእካዮ እስኪ ክሓተካ.

            Have you said anything about
            – Yosief Ghebehiwet
            – TMH guy
            – General Migbay
            And anyone else I haven’t heard.

            I mean you are more than CNN since last couple of months, have your comments / opinions escaped me?

          • haileTG

            Selam Berhe,

            The whole of post independence Eritrea was and still is dominated by one man and PFDJ.

            Which Eritrea is yours? Do you know there are tegadelti who have never seen Eritrea since independence? Some still jailed?

            Do you not know many who spent their lives in the struggle and couldn’t even be honored with burial ground?

            Do you know no Eritrean youth can not visit his/her family from within Eritrea without a permit?

            Do you know a million Eritrean refugees can’t return to Eritrea from Sudan and many have now died?

            Do you know hundreds of thousands Eritreans are permanent refugees in Tigray?

            Do you know Eritrean veterans have rotten away in jails, never to see day light again?

            Do you know Eritreans can’t work or trade freely in Eritrea?

            Do you know Eritrans can’t worship in Eritrea?

            Do you know Eritreans can’t transport materials from Tesseney to Asmara?

            Do you know you Eritreans can’t legally leave Eritrea?

            Do you know Eritreans don’t even get informed that they’re at war? And what they paid so far?

            Do you know Eritrean organ harvesting and kidnapping was organized within Eritrea?

            Do you know 360 Eritrean bodies of Lampedusa is still in temporary morgue in Italy and can’t be buried in Eritrea?

            Do you know PFDJ Eritrea didn’t lower flags for those at the time of tragedy and your leader called them thieves in national TV?

            Do you know Eritreans in distress in Libya have no representation by your PFDJ Eritrea?

            Do you know youths in Eritrea have no opportunity of accredited higher Education?

            Do you know underage Eritrean youth are sent to military training?

            Do you know there are over 400 unknown prisons in Eritrea?

            Do you know Eritrean youth are subjected to forced labor and sexual violence?

            Do you know many youth will die defending Amhara lands soon?

            Why not Berhe, with a mindset like yours, sky is the limit…

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            You are so smart and I know my limits how far I can push my lack. Abi had warned me a while ago:).

            I agree and I believe to all what you listed and I can’t wait to see the day the despot is gone and solve our problems.

            The tricky HaileTG, however is playing very cheap politics. Eritrea under IA has never abused Ethiopian POW. Like I said, you can praise TPLF all you want, and how they are treating them at 6 star hotel in Mekelle and it’s not my problem. But stating that Eritrea made walk 400 KM barefoot as they were leaving was totally made up story, to justify what ever justification you were looking to cover.

            But it has become a habit, it comes to you naturally now and don’t have to think about it.

          • iSem

            BY:
            Thanks for reminding us of the humanity of PFDJ in treating Ethi POW humanely. I have forgotten that nugget. An org that treats enemies humanely by internaional rules of war and buries citizens in Ela-Ero deservers our accolades and we must be charmed

          • saay7

            Hey iSem and BY:

            Whatever happened to you two meeting for sheHan fül and burying the hatchet? You two are esteemed members of Awate 1.0 so…. How about a break? ብምሕዝነታዊ ሓዊ (yeah I went there iSem) ነዲድናኮ!

            Saay

          • iSem

            Sal:
            Nice to see you back, THe meeting is there sheduked and budged for. And it is not for SheneHan ful, BY is paying
            Haha, ብምሕዝነታዊ ሓዊ, it is not most of it is inside jokes when were debating this issue before the “Silases”
            Need translation of the inside joke of Silases do not ask fugue it out we told u before

          • Saleh Johar

            iSem, please don’t be like me. Check after your phone spellchecker. Never trust it. It’s annoying to figure out many typos:-)

          • iSem

            SGJ: Yes Sir
            Weridwa my tel. It is me. Late here. It is me. And there is a delay when typing.
            Thanks
            But I want to be like you

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Well Saay7,
            Define sheHan fül. Is that Sudanese meselaH sheHan fül or Eritrean?
            Clarification is everything, since ambiguity is our problem.
            ኣንታ ሰዓይ ስለምንታይ ተወሳኺ ሕማም ርእሲ?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear saay,

            BY accept your ምሕዝነታዊ ሓዊ request in principle with the following precondition.

            sheHani ful breakfast is still on. BY offer to pay is revoked and indefinitely deferred until Eritrea and Tigray boarder demarcated.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            An organization that does not treat humanely to its nationals can not treat POWs humanely. Absolutely No No. They are lying to defend the criminal organization. Let me tell you the facts as they exist: there is no a single issue that is defendable to this criminal org.

            Regard

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Aya Amanuel,

            ሓሰኻ ደምበስ ኣብ ዝለምለመሉ ትብል ዓባየይ::

            They are lying to defend the criminal organization.

            ናይ POW ኣተሓሕዛ ብህዝባዊ ግንባር ዘምጻእኩ ዘረባ ኣነ እየ። ንዓይ ትብሎን ትጽሕፎን እንተለካ፥ ትኽ ኢልካ ግጠመኒ። እንታይ ጎቦ ጎቦ ዘኽይድ ኣለካ።

            ንዓኻን ከምዚ ከማኻን፥ ሓሲኻን ሓሳሲኻን ናይ ዕላማኻ ፥ ሽቶ ምውቃዕ፥ ቅዱስ ኮይኑ ይስመዓካ ይኸውን። ግን ንኹሎም አሽሓት ተጋደልትን ሓፋሽን ኣብ ግዜ ብረታዊ ቃልሲ ብአልማም ምውንጃልን ስም ምጥፋእን ግን ዓገብ።

            ኣነ ህዝባዊ ግንባር ንኤርትራውያን ኣይገፍዔን ኣይወጸንን። ን90,000 ወታሃደራት ኢትዮጵያ ግን ሳእኖም ኣውጺኦም ጥራሕ እግሮም 300-400 km ክጎዓዙ ኣይገበሩን። ውጽእ ሓሶት።

            እንሀልካ ናይ ዓይኒ ምስክር። ምስ The Atlantic ሓሰውቲ ኢኹም ኢልካ ተኻታዕ ሓቂ እንተለካ።

            The Loneliest War
            By Robert D. Kaplan
            JULY 1988 ISSUE

            In a world of imperfect choices, in which the United States often finds itself supporting regimes and resistance movements of limited caliber, the Eritrean guerrillas would appear to be useful proxies in a low-intensity war to exert pressure on the Marxist regime in Addis Ababa. Liberals on Capitol Hill would have relatively few complaints about a group whose exemplary treatment of the at least 8,000 Ethiopian prisoners of war under its charge has been witnessed by international relief officials and whose competence in famine relief is unquestionable.

            ምናልባት ቁሩብ እንተ ተሰቆረካ፥ ነዝ ብፍቅሪ ህዋሓት ዓዊሩ ዘሎ ዓንኻን፥ ነዚ ጸሚሙ ዘሎ እዝንኻን፥ ነዚ ብጽልኢ ሃገሩን ወገኑኒ ሽፊቱ ዘሎ ልብኻ፥ እንተ ኣርአየካን፥ እዝንኻ እንተኸፈተልካ፥ ልብኻ እንተ ኣፍኮሰልካ፥ ናይ ሃብትአብ የማነ ኢንተርቪ አው “ኣብ ኤርትራ ክልተ ሓይልታት ኣለዉ፥ ዝበዝሑ ደለይቲ ጽቡቕን ውሕዳት ጸላእቲ ሰናይን” at Eri Power check it out.

          • haileTG

            Selam Berhe,

            Read what you wrote there, see your outright lies, exaggerations and innuendos. To me it appears that we agree on IA oppression but you are a racist and a bigot towards Tigrayans. I can prove that from the different remarks you made in many pieces. We discussed the issue of racism and bigotry within the cultural atmosphere of of highland Eritrea few weeks ago. You tend to get triggered because you an issue. I say deal with your issue. I am not a racist towards Tigrayans, I am dealing objectively with your questions. I am not to be shamed and abused for being a particular origin and religion in Eritrea. That should not make me automatically a suspect. I have never heard you raise one single adversity Eritrean Muslims face under the regime, from Afar refugees in Yemen, to issue of land, representation in government, language, the fairness & inclusion of 97 constitution and so forth. You keep prostituting Tibah Tibah or what have you as a shiny bullet to shoot at Tigrayans, the Agames, the inferior or anything else you have been racialized and brainwashed with. You wanna discuss Eritrea, come with it, all ready for you. But, if some one calls my mother, daughter or wife disgusting names, at the very least I don’t repeat it. I love them and don’t want to hurt them by repeating it. You have been calling Eritrean Muslims all sorts of names that you heard in obscure and extremist websites and repeating it hear. We ignore you because they don’t deserve that. AAN media denied the existence of TPLF as a fighting force, I criticized them for that and you started going all Muslim on me on that. So, I am very informed about Muslim challenges in Eritrea, lets get going on a debate?? Your lack of respect for your own is astonishing, don’t expect the Tigrayans will fear you more for it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            You see how you like to change the subject and you try to “guilty trap me” again. I have never said anything about AAN or Tigray people or Eritrean Muslims in this particular exchange I am having with you, because when I tend that matters are closed then I rest my case. I don’t bring old arguments to make a point that is not relevant. My issue was the way you keep characterize Eritrea / EPLF etc today. But as for your ቂም goes dipper than I thought you go back to 1991. I don’t even know if that’s far enough for you.

            Now you want to shut me down to submission that I am “racist” and a “bigot” towards the people of Tigray. I don’t know someone must have done a number or two on you but you will never find any evidence of anything like that. I grew up and associated with people from Tigray if not more but certainly not less than any other part of Eritrea. It’s an insult to all those people and my best friends at times to think that they don’t matter and I have to write them off. My parents did not raise me as such so it will never stick no matter what you try. And my appeal is to those people, the most majority of them, I even say 99.9% have nothing to do with political acrobatics and double tongue that you are a master off.

            I never implied anything about your character, your religion or your ethnic back ground, I know you as an Eritrean and that’s all that matter.

            Let me tell you a story about a video that I saw may be a year ago. It was a meeting someone in the west, may of Ethiopians/ Tigrayans and among them were Eritreans such as Yosief G. Jr. I am paraphrasing as I don’t know remember what was said entirely.

            YG Jr. ንህና ወደብና ቀይሕ ባሕሪና ኢዩ። ንዓኖ ነዞም ናይ ሰመን ተጋሩ ዘኽዱዕና ዘለዉ እቶም ናይ ደቡብ ተጋሩ ከም ህወሓት እዮም። ንዓና ኣብ ክንዲ ዘድሊ ሓገዝ ዝገብሩልና መታን ትግራዋይ ክዕወት ፥ ትግራይ ናታ ባሕሪ ከይሓዘት ክትምዕብል ኣይትኽእልን ኢያ ፥ ዶ ገለ መለ መል

            Tigraway (in attendance) ስማዕ ዮሲፍ። ኣነ ብtransportation science masters ኣጽንዔ እየ። ናይ 300 km ካብ ባሕሪ ሪሕቅካ ማለት ትግራይ ኣይትምዖብልን ማለት ካብ ሓቂ ዝራሓቀ እዩ። ትግራይ ዘድልያ ምስ ኩልን ጎረባብት ሰላም ገይራ ፥ ክትዓቢ ድአ እምበር፥ international ሕጊ ጥሒሳ ኣብ ህውከት ኣይኮነንትን ክትዓቢ ትኽእል።

            So please do me a favor and bring all our evidence and the files that you have on me.

          • haileTG

            Selam Berhe,

            Please save us the “I have Tigrayan friends or I grew up playing with Tigrayans” cover up. I am being targeted by you based on my Tigrigna ethnicity and Christian religious ancestry.

            You wrote: “ሰቲ ሰምሀር ሒዘን ብጭራ ዋጣ ትዓጂበን መጺኻለይዶ እለን ክቅበላ::”

            As per your contextual embellishments of your expression above, one is to assume the so called TPLF supporting Eritreans are from the Tigrigna ethnicity and Christian religion as seti semhar is related to Jesus’ reception story in the bible.

            The Eritrean Islamic Salivation front, the Afar front, Kunama front are few other ethno-religious groups with deep relationship with TPLF.

            Why did you decide to give this a Tigrigna context? Can you make fun of Muslim cultural expressions. Why did you make fun of my heritage, tradition, religion? Is it something to be ashamed of? Abused for? Do you think you would appear taller in the eyes of PFDJ by fanning the religion and ethnic card. I am proud to be Eritrean, my Eritrea not your delusional one, and proud of my unique heritages within it.

            I have dozens of your racist diatribe against Tigray people, but I will keep it out of respect to the forum and to stick to current events. Keep your work of psychologically destabilizing an important pillar of the Eritrean make up. We have sectarians, racists and bigots in every section of Eritrea. You are just one.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            ትደልዮ እሞ ይዝንግዓካ ድዮም ዝብሉ:: ኮይኑካ፥ ኢዚ ጥራሕ ሕዝካ ኢኻ እዚ ኩሉ ሃተውተው። በጃኻ ቁሩብ መቅሽሽ ወስኸሉ። ነዚ ክትብል ግዚኻ ኣይተጥፍእ፥ ፈላጥ ኢኻ እንተበልናስ ብሓደ ኣፍይቱ፥፥

            I don’t need to prove to you or anyone else about my relationship with the people of Tigray.

            ትግራዎት [ከምዚ ከማይ ጎረበቶም አንተ ኮንካ] ካባይ ንላዕሊ ኣይቀርቡካ ኣይርሕቁኻ፥ ስቅ ኢልካ እዚ ሃትውተው ግደፎ። ይቀርቡኒ ኢዮም እንተ ኢሊካ ድማ፥ ጵቡቅ እንካዓ ሓጎሰካ። እቲ መልሲ ናተይ ንዓኻን ከምዚ ከማኻን መጠበሪ ዘይኮነስ፥ ነቶም መብዛሕትኦም ጥዑያት ተጋሩ በዚ ናታካ ናይ ፈጠራ ጸለመ ተታሊሎም ከይንትዓዛዘብ ኢዩ።

            My comment here was ሰቲ ሰምሀር ሒዘን ብጭራ ዋጣ ትዓጂበን መጺኻለይዶ እለን ክቅበላ in reference to a wedding, where a groom enters the wedding hall ዳስ and the women and women dance and sing. እንታይ ኮይካ፥ እዚ ጠፊኡካ ማለት ድዩ፥ ከምኡ ኣይተደረፈልካን ድዩ ኣብ መርዓኻ። This was in response to the comments made that the Eritrean people will welcome the advancing TDF army. In case you were not aware I was being sarcastic.

            Why did you decide to give this a Tigrigna context? Can you make fun of Muslim cultural expressions.

            Here you go again. First I was not making fun cultural expression. And second even if I was, I am allowed to. It’s my culture and it’s my religion as well. I don’t offend other people religion and culture, hello why should I. If this offends you, you need to go find another planet to live….Do you actually believe there is one person who is offended by this and that you think they fall trap to your excuse. Is this really how much you underestimate the capacity of the awatista?

            I do not want to appear taller in the eyes of PFDJ or any body else. I am already tall enough, I am very satisfied with who I am. I never said you are not Eritrean..why do you keep saying that….being Eritrean is just luck of a draw, there is nothing special about it….we are born to it, nothing else.

            I have dozens of your racist diatribe against Tigray people, but I will keep it out of respect to the forum and to stick to current events.

            You have nothing, because I know my self. If this was where I grew up, I would have said…. ስቅ ኢልካ ቦሮቅሮቅ ኣይትበል

          • haileTG

            Berhe,

            I have never met a racist who admit it.

            But, when horrific atrocity is denied, covered up or mischaracterized, we see it.

            Sidnet is not politics, address all issues. You singled out Tigrigna wedding tradition, what is the link?

            Shameful!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            Why don’t you prove me wrong then.

            Wedding is hagos and desta. The Eritrean people will be delighted to see the invading TDF army with open arms (according to some people). It’s like one people are the wedding who will be delighted. That’s the link.

            ይአኽልና በጃካ ግደፈና። ሰሪሒና ደቅና ከንዕቢ። ክንዲዚ ሃጠው ቀጠው፥ ሎቆታ እኽሊ ቦጎግ ቦጎግ ይብለ ወዲ ሻውል። ሽጥ ኣቢሉዎም ዝብል ደርፊ እስኪ ስማዕ፥ ቁርብ እንተወጻልካ።

            ወዲኤ ኣለኹ፥ ይግፈሓልካ።

          • haileTG

            Berhe,

            So, you associated the Tigrigna culture of ceremony with the highest crime of treason??

            Eritrean Muslims would respect you if you raised their real issues as I listed above. No racist thinks they are one. But destroying the worthy cultural attributes of the target is done for no other purpose than ultimately eliminating it.

            If you are ignorant, then learn. Listening to music and extremist chatters is not the way to go.

            If association of tibah tibah with atrocity is wrong, so is association of chira wata or sete semhar or Tigrigna wedding with treason.

            Racism is arrogance, you are full of it.

          • saay7

            Selamat Haile TG and Berhe Y:

            I don’t know what’s going on with this great forum: its Berhe vs iSem, Haile TG vs Berhe Y, Emma vs Beyan…

            I can tell you I have been through a few of these (with T Kifle and Hayat mostly) and looking back I couldn’t tell you what the subject was and if I were to read it now I would cringe. This is not to say your arguments are issue-less, they articulate viewpoints expressed by Eritreans, divided by Ethiopia’s stupid war. What I can tell you is that a lot of people (some too incredible to believe if I wrote it here) read the forum to get the pulse of Eritrean opposition and we can make our points without declaring total war on the persona of the interlocutor.

            እምቧእ ከይፈቴና ሸምጊልና

            Saay

          • haileTG

            Hey saay,

            ዋእ እንታይ ክንገብር ኢልካና ሳልሕ! እዝስ ቀደም ሓሊፍናዮ ዝበልና ሸንኮለል አንድዩ ደጊሱና። ኣነ’ኮ ፋቲንጋስ ሕብእቲ ኣባል ግንባር ኩናማያ ወዲ ትኳቦ ድማ ልዕሊ ደቀባት ኤርትራውያን ክሕለቕ ኣይክእልን ዝብል መስደመም ዘረባ ህግደፍ ምስ ሰማዕኩ፡ ክሳብ ክንደይ ሓሳብካ ምግላጽ ነውሪ’ዩ ዝብል ባህሊ ህግደፍ ምስራጹ ገሪሙኒዩ።

            GiE’s “no one left behind” slogan needs going over again. 🙂

          • saay7

            Hailat:

            It’s ok 🙂 I myself had disowned Fatinga as gwal gezawtna in Asmara until she allied herself with us. So the other side can do their form of disowning which is always Operation ስግር ዶብ:) If Yemane G cross to our side they have a whole portfolio on them.

            At least we are not from a country which equates an entire region/province with a sick chicken as AAA did yesterday.

            saay

          • haileTG

            Haha …. Thank you for calming the chicken squabble here too saay! I just hope some of our ranks stop this ዶብ ኣሰጋጋር game on each other. Some western donor representative said today (re: Ethiopia), for a peaceful transition in Ethiopia, all Ethiopians need to know that every one in their country has a unique view on how their country should move forward, there needs to be a political space that accommodates that. I thought that we could have benefited tremendously in the opposition camp if that was to be true for us too.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            His Excellency PMAA promised to bring and work with opposition members in his government.
            I expect some ministerial positions and higher offices to be filled by competent opposition members. The stupid and retarded quota system based on ethnicity rather than qualification should end ASAP.

            leGacY has had a far smarter carrot than some of the ministers and officials:)
            Thanks leGacY.

          • Berhe Y

            Ata saay,

            ሕማቅ ገልጋሊ መባአሲ ድዮም ዝብሉ ደቂ ዓድኻ::
            ትሽምግል አለኻ እንተበልናስ :
            ንስኻ ውን አይዞኽም ናይና ኮንካ ጸኒሕካ:)

          • saay7

            Berhe Y:

            Okay 🙂

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay (Aya Adi-U),

            I am really sorry to happen this kind of skirmishes in this august and inspiring website. Unfortunately, if there are someone who made their fight personal and directed to put some of us in a rabbit hole, it is natural to reflex back and face them in the language they understand. No hands up in this fight until they understand their ugly side.

            regards

          • Samuel

            Hi Berhe Y,

            ትግራዎት [ከምዚ ከማይ ጎረበቶም አንተ ኮንካ] ካባይ ንላዕሊ ኣይቀርቡካ ኣይርሕቁኻ

            A year ago, I have read your comment asking the forumers if Tigrians have “ሕጊ እንዳባ”, when I saw your comment I was surprised, I was to respond you then but I thought either you are ignorant or you don’t know Tigray and Tigrians at all, Period!!

            Having friends from Tigray or knowing Tigrians because of XYZ has nothing to do knowing Tigray and its value. When you know Tigray you will know its value, its principle, its history, etc. you can’t ask such silly question and pretend ትግራዎት [ከምዚ ከማይ ጎረበቶም አንተ ኮንካ].

            Eritrea is a river away from Tigray, literally few meters away. Whatever traditional values Eritrea has, you should expect they will be in Tigray too.
            The traditional values of Eritrea are not from Italy, Egypt, Addis Ababa or Saudi Arabia, they are grassroot traditions (customs, laws, rules, etc) emanated from the people. Every society has a center of politics, laws, and rules, Eritrean people are not different.

            Thanks,

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Samuel,

            Thank you for your reply and thank you for your follow up. If you ask me, do I know all the Eritrean traditional ሕጊ እንዳባ and my answer is I don’t. I can tell you why if you care.

            We never learned it in school growing up under the Derg and the Ethiopian education system. I know about the higi endaba of Eritrea, mostly from what I heard from my father and some of the reading I saw in the internet only. All I know is they were used extensively in matters of civil local matters, be it land, marriage, inheritance etc.

            The reason I asked the “stupid question was”, I am humiliating my self, is because I honestly didn’t know if they have similar laws in Tigray “as you said due to the proximity” and close traditions. Now that I know, I would be happy to learn. The reason I was asking the question was, how far and how long that “Eritrean highland / Tigray” were tied together in having common law. After hearing so much “Menlik did this, Italy did that”, what exactly was the relationship.

            I was discussing the FitiHe negest with Paulos and if I am not mistaken how all Ethiopian treasure the book. For the life of me (others please correct me) I never heard my father or any of other Eritrean elders talk about the book in such high praise as if its the words of God. No body cares in Eritrea as far as I know. And my ignorance (understanding was) how the book is used in matters of land ownership and other civil matters.

            Growing up and living with a neighbor or being friends with someone from Tigray, doesn’t mean, that I have to know each and every little detail about the person ancestral land and history. Who the person is, what matters to me to judge and care for regardless where he comes. If you are saying that you know all the tranditional higi enda ba nay ertra, I am really happy to hear and please share what you know.

            In any case, that was the reason for my asking, hope it make sense to you.

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            It’s clear now, Thank you for your response.

            Regarding “Kibre Negest”, Except Amhara elites, I don’t think most Ethiopians take it as true account. I am not sure if you have read my comments previously, I hate “Kibre Negest” narrative, it is one of the greatest lie invented in Ethiopia.
            By the way Kibre Negest account is one of the challenges of the “Nation building narrative” in Ethiopia. It is pure lie, it doesn’t represent the nation nationalities of Ethiopia.

            Thanks,

          • iSem

            HTG:
            Can I ask you one question? What has gotten into you lately? I think we should all quite and leave you alone to tell the truth and fact, instead distracting. Crips yet penetrating. Detailed yet succinct. Am I contradicting myself, it is the norm:-)
            Wow!

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG (Paulos regurgitated). You are not fooling anybody buddy. Berhe Y is for sure now onto you now. Whilst many of the points you raised are indeed noteworthy, you spend almost the entirety of your time here defending, promoting and glorifying the TPLF and belittling Eritrea, her troops, her sovereignty and her dignity.

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            I don’t think you would understand “belittling Eritrea, her troops, her sovereignty and her dignity” if it gets into the shower with you. Read the above list again:-)

          • Dongolo

            Dear moderator:
            1) I had provided a Borkena link which cited Eritrean Press (which is normally a reliable source of information) in regards to the Rama front. You will see that the The Borkena link says little different from my deleted comment in this regard.
            2j The second deleted message was meant to be a short lived off-humor joke directly to haileTG.

          • leGacY

            Hi Berhe,

            Asha’s ya had tserfu,

            Are you still harping on about that conflict? Give it a rest. Will you? It was a futile war that should not have happened. Period! Hang-ups on semantics of a 20th century post war settlement is not going to advance the cause of your people.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi leGacy,

            I think when my country and her people are becoming a punching bag for all evil and at times with fabricated lies then I have the right and responsibility to raise / make the correction.

            Just because our country has become a pariah state, you guys are used to manipulate the opinion and any all allegations sticks.

            Just know that they only people you are fooling is yourselves, sooner or later truth comes out.

            If semantics then why bring it in the first place.

            I suppose the story of TDF leaders and war generals were busy figuring out POW shoe sizes, matching colors and swapping boots will advance the people cause.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Please stop! I’m weak.
            “Shoe sizes with matching colors and swapping boots “ is the best line I’ve ever read in this website.
            Nobody will match this one!!

          • abdu

            salam Berhe Y

            I suppose the story of TDF leaders and war generals were busy figuring out POW shoe sizes, matching colors and swapping boots will advance the people cause.
            You got it right
            thank you
            BTW I heard Yiakel and Erisat made it clear they will stand with Eritreans against TPLF.

          • leGacY

            Hi Berhe,
            All I am saying is that in the grand scheme of things the issues you are focusing pale in comparison to the problems your people are facing. I am sensing that your grievances are rather much deeper than a mere slip of tongue.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi leGacy,

            I don’t understand what you are trying to say….who said my people are having it good. Demeaning Eritrea, her people, her history has become a full time job of some people. I really don’t care what you think, I don’t have to pretend and to please anyone, least of all TPLF ተጠባባቂ minster as per Guad Abi.

          • leGacY

            Hi Berhe,
            Hmmm….sounds like someone who had just renewed his 2% tax mandate.

            Patriotisms is the last refuge of scoundrel (SJ). To call what amounts to a fiefdom a “country” is rather stretching the UN’s definition of a “country.” I could go on but I don’t want to offend our hosts by expressing my real feelings about your country so I would let sleeping dogs lie.

            What POW’s are you talking about? Those are TDF persons playing dress ups!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi leGacy,

            If I renew my 2% tax or not it’s my business and it’s my country. If it’s fiefdom or failed state or a dog house, ንዓና ይጠቅመና መን ተሓለቃይ ገይሩካ:: We know, we have a dictator in our country. You don’t need to remind me.

            I really don’t care or don’t know about TDF and how they treat their POW, it’s not of my business.

            What my concern is how Eritrea was used as example to compare it with (in 1991) they way it treated the Ethiopian POWs.

            That’s one just example, but it never seems to escape the opportunity.

          • leGacY

            Hi Berhe,
            ” We know, we have a dictator in our county…”
            “Dictatorship” is the least of your problems my brother. I would start with the word “Lies.” The lies you and your cronies told the Eritrean people. Like you said, that’s a cross for you to bear.

          • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

            Selam whoever you are,
            It is none of your business!

          • Abi

            Berhe
            ኧረ ከወዳጅና ዘመድ እንዳታቆራርጠኝ!!
            እንዴት ካልጠፋ ሰው ስንት ምሁራን ከሚርመሰመሱበት አዋተ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ጏድ አቢን በቁም ነገር መሃል ትጠቅሳለህ?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You can forgive me. I made you laugh yesterday:).

          • Abi

            Berhe
            You killed me yesterday!!
            I took a screenshot of your comment.
            You are forever forgiven.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam HaileTG,

            I haven’t seen a printed copy of the announcement yet, but I listened someone reading it and it includes something to the effect of

            “ኢሳያስ ካብ ስልጣን ይውረድ ኣይውረድ ናይ ኤርትራውያን ጉዳይ እዩ፤”

    • Kaddis

      Selam Haile TG
      Not surprising for me as I mentioned days ago – TDF winning over Abi+Isias also saved the constitution that the Imperial Amharic groups rushing to dump come September. Now Tigray state made it clear they can deal under the constitution; giving a huge signal and motivation to the Oromo and other federalist wing that they can keep fighting for self-rule.

      TDF core the TPLF knows utilising the constitution to the maximum in any case gives them a range of options – from staying as a federal state to becoming an independent state. Why would they spoil their legal right to secession? And also – if securing Tigray physically is possible – calling for secession only increase the pressure on Tigraways living here…in any case – the Oromo and other hosts of Tigraway in the entire country have no interest on abusing tigraways – that’s what matters.

      Since external support is the biggest factor in this war ( the arab drones, the West and Sudan, also Eritrea as an external/internal participant ) – Tigray acting as a formidable political and military power in the region gives the impression to the external actors they can deal with them rationally.

      • leGacY

        Hi Kaddis,
        Dead man walking!
        Amhara nationalist are already circling the wagon around Abiy for handing them this catastrophic defeat. Soon they will discard him like Yebirtukan Litach!

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Deputy President, Mustafa Omertà: ‘Before it was ousted and started playing victim, the TPLF killed, raped, and tortured tens of thousands of civilians in Somali Region in its 27 years of the reign of terror’. He blames the TPLF for recent war crimes in Tigray.

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Shalom ! Shalom!

    Awates,

    I am now looking into the misunderstanding
    going on within the PP party or between the
    PMAA and some PP members in hope of
    helping resolving the issue as I was an ardent
    supporter of the PP three years ago before I
    got sidelined with the Lemma group.
    If you need any help or clarifications regarding
    my input, vision and stand then I will be happy
    to share it with you anytime at no cost for pulling
    and sharing the Archived material.
    All you need to do is fill the form and make request
    for access to archived documents.

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Shalom !
    Awates

    Hebrawi

    It is better to be and stay Eritrean
    until Ethiopians come to understand
    the a,b,c s of modern politics.
    They are and just remain stuck in the
    past old political methods that had
    expired long time ago.
    Ethiopia and Tigray are too weak
    and still too way behind backward
    compared to us Eritreans.
    I agree with some of you here
    Until Agaazian comes and rescue
    the Horn Africa Eritrea is the only
    hope to take leadership there.
    Ethiopians just only like warfare and
    only marching back every time.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ክኢላ ጎረቤተይ
    ዝተኸሎም ዕምባባታት
    ዝተፈላለዩ ሕብሪ ዓንቢቦም
    ንሳላሳ ዓመታት

    ኣነ ድማ ሓንቲ ከይተኸልኩ
    ——–ናይ ጎረቤተይ መንፈዓት
    የድንቕ ነበርኩ
    ——-የግዳስ ምስ ዝኹሉ መንፈዓት
    ——ሓደ ወዱ ኴንዎ መንደዓት
    ——‘ዘን ዝሓለፋ ሰለስተ ዓመታት

    ወዱ
    ዓመጽ ዝልማዱ
    ዕምባባታት ኣቡኡ
    ከእትዎ ኣብ ኢዱ
    ‘ተዘይመንጠልኩኻ
    ክብል ካን! ሓንጊዱ

    ኣብ መውዳትኡ ግን
    ገዛ ስድራ ኣንዲዱ
    ንሱውን ጠፈአ
    ብኢዱ
    ኣበይ ክትሰዶ
    ሕማቕ ባርዕ ‘ኳ ‘ዩ ኣጒዱ

    በዓል ሕማቕ ግብሪ
    ጥፍኣት ዝልማዱ
    ኣብ ክንዲ ብልቡ
    ዝሕስብ ብኸብዱ

    ሕጂ ደኣ ኣብ መጻወድያ
    ድርግም ኣብ ጸበባ
    ኣበይ ክሰዶ መረገም ናይ ዕምባባ
    ሕማቕ ውላድ ኣይወለድ
    ነዚ ብሩኽ ጎረቤተይ
    ኴንዎ ናጤባ

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear all,

    I am against revenge, judgement is wrong and yes I am against judging too, But I simply observe things and developments. I simply watch..

    Enjoy the bellow talk of voa please,

    ሓዲሽ ዜና ትግርኛ at voa Tigrigna news 04 July 2021

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VossSn3JR1Y&ab_channel=yesTigrigna

    Tomorrow will come back with different on the same top subject. The same and I will attach it also,

    KS,,

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear all,

      As promised this is the 2nd part of the above talk between those 2 doctors and just the link press bellow,

      ሓዲሽ ዜና ትግርኛ at voa Tigrigna news 05 July 2021.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHZ81frQ18&ab_channel=yesTigrigna

      Thanks and Regads,,

      KS,,

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat Kokhobay,

        Careful now, you maybe talking to yourself:-)

        • kokhob selamone2

          Thank You, Fanti,

          Yes, I was talking to and simply discussing with self, I am aware and that is very nice. Please do that..

          KS,,

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Kokhobay,

            I too talk to myself all the time, and now, I know what to call it: Sadhguru. Hahaha.

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. Reports of extremely heavy TPLF casualties; they were trying to move across the Rama front into Eritrea.

    • haileTG

      Selam Donogolo,

      It is customary and courteous to provide a link or quote a source we can look up for news items. So, it would be better to modify your entry in order for forumers to discuss it.

      A new item this evening is that the government of Tigray region has issued a press release (check DWT or any of the Tigray media outlets) issuing a warning that unless the blockade placed on the whole of Tigray is lifted immediately, it is going to take action. It hasn’t specified the type of action or the intended (specific) target.

      • Dongolo

        Selam haileTG. ‘TPLF suffered casualties attempting to cross Eritrean border: report’
        https://borkena.com/2021/07/03/tplf-suffered-casualties-attempting-to-cross-eritrean-border-report/

        • Abi

          Hello Dongolo
          Apparently, the greatest and brightest awatista news reporters who have been embedded with the TDF are now busier than ever before reporting the Parades that are taking place all over Tigray.
          Please, kindly do not disturb their festivities. They ain’t got no time for fake news:)

          • Dongolo

            Selam Abi. The TPLF and their Eritrean sympathizers are Dazed and Confused and simply have yet to fully comprehend how desperate of a position they are now in.

          • Abi

            Dongolo
            They are between a rock and a sharp rock . Now that is a hard place to be.
            Looking for a throne, they found a thorn for a seat.

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            I am mulling to repackage the current situation in Tigray as a final semester project based assessment. You are showing a lot of issues in terms of lack of basic grasp of key matters. Awate University will not issue degree for such work.

            Are you saying that blockading patients in hospitals of Tigray from life saving treatments is some kind of success?? Stay away from PFDJ mentality or you will fail the course. Ask PMAA, he will tell you the same.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam HaileTH

    TDF [Tigray Defese Forces] may go for frontal assault, attacking other parts of Amhara or crossing into Eritrea. The first one would require the highest military cost and the third one the highest diplomatic cost. The second option is not a clever one because what is the point of going to Amhara with EDF attacking the rear guard from the north?
    From news media, it appears that the build up is a conventional war style. Both sides amassing large contingents of infantry, mechanized and artillery divisions…… EDF [Eritrean Defense Forces] can’t launch fresh preemptive operations into Tigray under the current political and diplomatic circumstances. ENDF [Ethiopian Defense Forces] is very unlikely to launch the same from the south because its ranks are just recovering from a catastrophic defeat in the operations of last two weeks. This leaves TDF with the only possible side to do so.

    Wrong, wrong, wrong. Let me explain

    1. – The Western intervention in Ethiopian internal affairs is:

    A. – To “protect the safety and wellbeing” of the Tigrean people
    B. – To deliver the badly needed Food Aid to the people of Tigray

    Which everybody knows both are bogus claims. The world still remembers (from few years back) how the Western claim “we’re in Libya to save the Bengazi people from mass massacre and raping of women by the brutal Gadhafi regime”

    2. – So, the first question that comes to mind is, how do you deliver Food Aid to the people of Tigray
    A. – Directly to Mekele airport bypassing the Ethiopian Federal Government
    B. – By full approval and authorization of the Ethiopian Federal government
    C. – If the West insisted and threatened, to deliver Food Aid directly to the people of
    Tigray bypassing the Ethiopian Federal government; then the Western intent will be
    very obvious for all to see. Meaning: Western objective is not to feed the people of
    Tigray, it is to arm and to incite rebellion against the Federal government in Ethiopia.
    D. – And since it is an issue of sovereignty, the Ethiopian government should insist every
    Food Aid load that goes to Tigray be inspected to make sure there are no arms and
    ammunition inside the cargos.

    3. – The Woyanes can’t have it both ways:
    A. – Food Aid shipments trough Ethiopian and Eritrean lands and air spaces, and
    B, – A shooting war with the Ethiopian and Eritrean governments
    C. – The need for food aid is real. And the Woyanes have to make one clear choice.

    4. – Where is the direction of future Tigray?
    A. – Is it to be part of Ethiopia?
    B. – Is it to create an AgAzian state at the coast of the Red Sea?
    C. – Is it to have a sovereign UN member Tigray Nation State?
    D. – Is it to be part of Ethnic-Based Federal System in Ethiopia?

    And for sure, all Tigreans are not on the same page on this central issue of – what Tigray’s future destiny ought to be and what goal to achieve must young Tigreans die. Your resolute and your willingness to fight and die is as strong as your ultimate objective.

    5. – Contrary to the opinions of almost all the contributors in this forum, I don’t believe for a second, the TDF forces are willing or able to pick a fight with the Ethiopian and Eritrean Defense Forces. If they do the war is not going inside the Amara Region or Eritrean sovereign territories. If the TDF chose to fight both governments, then this is what is going to happen – which is not good for Tigray or Tigreans
    A. – Ethiopia will create a Zuffer Zone with awell armed, well financed, and well supported Tigrean militias along the Amara-Tigrean borders across Raya, Welkait, Tsegede, Tselemt – deep in Tigrean territories

    B. – Eritrea will also create its Bufer Zone with a well armed, well financed and well supported Tigrean militias along Zalambessa, Tserona, Gundet (Mereb River), and Badme plains that penetrate deep in Tigrean territories. And every war would be fought inside Tigrean territories. That’s how you fight wars – outside your borders.

    6. But, but, but, please weigh in Tigray is going to have now
    A. – Very young leaders
    B. – The great majority of Tigreans believe and want to remain Ethiopians
    C. – The rhetoric of war and division, the parading of young Ethiopian prisinors of war, is going to create a storm of a backlash that would victimize many Tigrans inside Tigray, and Tigreans outside Tigray in Ethiopia – specially the well to do class outside Tigray Killil. So please refrain from your poisonous rhetoric. Words have consequences.

    Semere Tesfai

    • haileTG

      Selamat Semere,

      You have to touch down to the ground and please speak to the actual situation than wishes and bravado.

      The TPLF terms of ceasefire seem very low ball for PMAA if he ditched IA. There isn’t much by way of deadlock if he accepts a government of unity. It has been done in many places.

      Arming Tigrayans to guard Eritrea and Amhara is only a stuff dreamed in bizarro’s world. I am sure the NNNN will take it but no sane person would. DEMHIT had long joined TDF in this war and that tells you the unity of the people of Tigray is beyond political differences.

      The current situation is a reversal for PMAA and IA. PMAA is quick at flipping, my hunch is IA will be hanging to dry.

    • Abi

      ሰላም ወንድም አማች
      Have you noticed that the captured soldiers were wearing different colors of ሼዳ?
      The last time I saw an Ethiopian soldier wearing ሼዳ was … sorry, I don’t remember.
      ጉድ ! ጉድ! ጉድ!

      • haileTG

        Wondim Abi,

        The best explanation is that some TDF swapped it with the ENDF. Usually, shoe are removed from captives. In 1991 about 90000 Ethiopian troop captives were sent walking barefoot across Ethio-Eritrea border. TDF must have offered them shoe…unusual and kind.

        • Saleh Johar

          HaileTG,
          Are you sure? The hundreds I saw in Zalambessa had their shoes on.

          • iSem

            Hi TG and SGJ
            I was wondering about that too, why were the POI (prisoners of Invasion) were allowed to wear shoes.
            But one thing is for sure, TDF are not that brain dead to showcase their own ppl as POI to claim they have captured them, and to suggest that is just….. our of this world
            Now, we can see the alliance of PFDJ and Amhara even at awate, between Former Tegadaalai Semere Tesfai and Abi. Enquaa nkulus arkebkulu, wedi Gebru
            Semere Tesfai, I dedicate a song to you, Aba Gumbah Berkah ab Tigray entai reEka

          • haileTG

            Hey iSem,

            At the risk of annoying my Ethiopian friends here, the history of disowned POWs and killed from theirs goes back a long time in Ethiopian history. Ethiopia only celebrates her forces before war or after victory. Defeated Ethiopian soldiers are swiftly disowned or even attacked in some cases.

          • Abi

            Hello iSem
            I’m wondering why Tigreans all over Ethiopia are allowed to keep both feet and hands.

          • haileTG

            Whoa Abi! I see moderator speeding towords you!!

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Watch the reckless activities of Tigreans backfire BIGLY. I strongly believe it is the right time for tigreans leave Ethiopia . They have successfully agitated the general public. I remember in 1998 Ethiopians protecting Eritrean families all over Ethiopia. Let us see who is protecting the former eviction officials this time around.
            You have played your part in pouring gas on the fire.

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            Myself and Eritrean FM Osman Saleh are sticking to our claim that we have nothing to do in Ethiopian internal matters. I am true to my word, hope OS is too:)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            FM Osman Saleh and you are promoting two exactly opposite agendas. One is a government official who is defending the sovereignty of his country. The other is a weyane ተጠባባቂ official who, among other things, proudly declared his alliance with a dead goat that is determined to make the whole neighborhood stinky.
            ይህ ቀንዱ ተቆርጦ ምላሱ ብቻ የረዘመው የፍየል ወጠጤ በነብሮቹ እንደሚዋጥ አትጠራጠር::

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            Happy Sunday:-) It looks like the full extent of the loss is finally downing on you. If you don’t accept it and move on, otherwise you won’t last with the local goat that morphed into a leopard.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Happy Sunday to you too Arkey.
            Understandably, you haven’t paid enough attention lately. Busy with partying and festivities…
            We have moved out and moved on!
            Please update us with current events in Mekele. I like your unbiased eye witness report as usual.
            HaileTG Reporting live from Mekele …

          • haileTG

            Guad Abi,

            The residents of Mekelle and most of Tigray have started to go back to normal life. Fear of looting, rape and massacre have subsided. This has given those of us with a heart a great relief and sense of elation. The ENDF POWs were treated humanely on their way to the rehab center. No signs of revenge or mistreatment, that also given us great relief. We understand the wounded ego of PMAA is going to take a while to recover. All international missions are invited to Tigray to set up base and conduct observations anyhow they like. At least we can now sleep well knowing the innocent civilian of Tigray are safe from from the attempted genocide. The rest is history as they say. Next report from Mekelle will be by our world media partners:)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Great reporting as always!
            Now that Tigray has reduced to a manageable size to govern itself, I expect to hear more and more great news.

          • haileTG

            Abichu……size doesn’t matter 🙂

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Jealous of the neighbors’ size, Tigreans tried everything in their power for size enlargement solutions.
            Their micro dream just collapsed !!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-TG,

            “ Fear of looting, rape and massacre have subsided. This has given those of us with a heart a great relief and sense of elation. The ENDF POWs were treated humanely on their way to the rehab center.”

            Indeed, it is “a great relief and sense of elation” for those of us who were crying to stop the atrocities against civilians. TDF has brought a sense of relief to the people of Tigray. More amazing though, that the professional Tigrian army didn’t go for revenge against the prisoners of war. If these POW’s have been from the TDF, they would have been slaughtered and thrown by the cliffs of the mountains of Tigray, by their the invaders, akin to what had been taken against the young Tigrains. This is another relief for us that the TDF are abided by the rules of war and treat the POW humanely.

            Regard

          • Brhan

            Hello haileTG Abi Seb,
            The daily news of the deportation of Amharas from Oromia by many Ethiopian social media channels like Ethio 360 is one of the proofs that the country as a whole is in crisis!
            Why do you think these poor Amharas and other people in Ethiopia have not to received attention here at awate.com, even from Ethiopian participants?

          • iSem

            Hi Abi:
            There are many reasons for that but the most prominent one is, it is a payback for , a favor for having given you the first ever government that is close to civilized. You guys know that deep inside and taking their hands and feet may be bad omen according to witch craft that is prominent in Abi land.

          • Abi

            iSem
            I like to see the tigreans make Tigray a civilized island that is a bright star for both Ethiopia and Eritrea to learn from.

          • iSem

            Hi Wendm Abi, oops, I mean Guad Abiyot
            Civilized country is that not important, Dabbo is more important for them to provide and when they do that someone from Ethiopia will adore them, he will express his affection in terse one liners, he will write poems, he will even one name a monument after Debretsion or even celebrate June 28, the liberation of Mekelle. The mighty Dabbo is what matters.
            Dabbo natey dabbo
            Dabbos si wediq, enem ella lehu

          • Abi

            iSem
            I like Guad Abiyot a lot:)
            They can bake their ህብስት and eat it too. ( sorry, that is more than one line)

          • iSem

            Hi Guad Abiyot:
            I upvoted getting the humor, and then for transcending the one liner:-)
            But they can also bake their ህብስት and sell it when demand
            soars somewhere:-)

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam iSem,

            Speaking of selling, I have a story.

            A neighbor and my mother’s friend was having a cross-fence shout out fight with another neighbor and one of her profound insult included “ኣቲ ገባሪት ለይነበረ፤ ሸያጢት ጸባ፤ እስኽስ ሰብ ኮይኒኽስ ልኣየይ…*”

            School building project had brought many workers to my hometown around that time and we were exposed to several strange behaviors for the first time.

            The funny thing is that I didn’t realize how funny that was at the time until two years later when I went to Mekelle for high school and not only witnessed for the first time people selling milk every morning but also I ended up being one of their customers.

            * ኣንቺ ወተት ሻጭ ነውረኛ፤ ኣንቺ ደግሞ ሰው ሁነሽ ነው ለኔ….”

          • iSem

            Hi Fanti:
            this story had deeper message in our societies, how we look down at some jobs like anterenga, nothing wrong doing an honest job. We are silly we are. No wonder we in bad place, stuck in a vicious cycle of putting others down

          • Abi

            iSem
            “ሳይተርፋት አበድራ ሳትቀበል ሞተች”
            በልታ ሳትጠግብ መና እንደተራበች

            ይህ ህብስተመና እንደ ሰማይ ሲርቅ
            የረሳትን ጎረቤት አጥር ስትነቀንቅ
            አስገቡኝ እያለች አገር ስታስጨንቅ
            ክረምት ሳያሳልፍ የቋጠረችው ስንቅ
            መናው ተመናምኖ ከገበያው ከሱቅ
            ህልም መና ላይሆን እሳቱ ላያሞቅ
            ህፃን ሲያለቃቅስ አባቱ ሲሳቀቅ
            እናት ስትቆዝም ረሃብ ሲሞዠልቅ
            ያኔ እናወጋለን አሁን ለጊዜው ሳቅ

            Thanks for the upvote. I demand another one for the poem.

          • Abi

            Selam moderator
            Menelik did the right thing at that time. Aiding an enemy in an offense punishable by death.

          • haileTG

            Hey SGJ,

            Mine is sourced from reading about it, I would take yours as an eye witness account, and more believable.

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          The logical explanation is አልሜዳ ጨርቃጨርቅ ፋብሪካ doesn’t produce military shoes.
          I heard the reward was extra bread for playing captive.
          እነዚህ የበጎ አድራጎት ምርከኞች played their part exceptionally well in the last drama.

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ወንድም አማች

            “The logical explanation is አልሜዳ ጨርቃጨርቅ ፋብሪካ doesn’t produce military shoes.
            I heard the reward was extra bread for playing captive.
            እነዚህ የበጎ አድራጎት ምርከኞች played their part exceptionally well in the last drama.”

            Yes indeed, it is a staged act from what I’m hearing from my Face Book friends. To be exact: the “war prisoners” that are being paraded are actually Tigreans participating in a staged act doing their duty, serving for the bigger cause.

            Anyway, we all will know the whole truth soon. I believe, in about a month, the “victorious” Tigrean government will formally announce the number of war prisoners (soldiers) it is holding to the Red Cross, and to some other continental and UN agencies, as part of the exchange of prisoners agreement. Until then, let’s all wait patiently.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ሰላም ወንድም አማች
            During the soldiers exchange, Tplf will handover the drama queens and receive those captured at the war theater. Talk about another drama from the experts.
            The question is what Tplf will do about the mentality captured Eritrean website warriors? Well, my guess is it will exchange them with the captured soldiers during the current skirmish with Eritrea.
            The Oscar goes to…

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Abi,
        I thought you were Gondere? Have you seen the Amhara milisha’s white or other colorful ሽዳ? I guess you have not.

  • Tzigereda

    Selam all,
    እቲ ኾይኑ እቲ: ሕጅ’ውን ገና ስድሪ ኣይሰጎምናን: ኣብኣ ኣለና ገና: ኣብታ ናይ ቅድሚ ዓሚ:: ኣሳጉማና: ኣሳጉማ ናይ ዘርከቡ: ናይ ዕቡያት እዩ ዘሎ::

    • haileTG

      Hey Tzigereda,

      እንታይ ክንገብር ኢልኪና ዘዝኣሰርናያ እናተፈትሔት እንድያ ሞኽ ኣቢላትና ክብርቲ ሓፍቲ። ካብቲ መጽሓፍ ወስ ከብል ሓሲበ’ሞ ከይመጹኒ ከምዛ ናይ ኤማ ገዲፈያ’ለኹ 🙂

      • Tzigereda

        Hi HaileTG,
        በቲ ናይ ቀደም (ባህሊ ውለዲ) ፍሉይ ኩኑት ምስዝርከብ ጥሩምባ ሃሪሆም ዓዲ ይእከብ ኔይሩ ንሰምዕ:: ፍታሕ ከናድዩ:: ህጹጽ ኣኼባ” ዝበሃል እውን ኔይሩ ዝሰዓበ:: እንተ ናይዚ ዘመን ግን ኣስተርሒኻ ትንተና ጥራይ ኮይኑ:( ኣስተርሒኻስ ” ኩነታት ይቅድመና ኣሎ” ትብል መንከስካ ብኢድካ እንዳደገፍካ:: ኣነውን ምስኦም: ከምኦም:(

        • haileTG

          Hello Tzigereda,

          On a serious note, an external problem/threat tends to move the whole society seamlessly and instantly. Internal problems are extremely difficult to mobilize for because the battle lines are often not clearly delineated. Do we say internal problem or problems? If in singular, then which one takes priority? Everyone thinks theirs is the absolute priority. It is a circular problem. The proposed solution becomes the new problem to tackle and its solution creates the next problem. We need a political genius to help us crack this one.

          • Tzigereda

            Hey HaileTG,

            Imagine Eritrea was a patient with chronic disease visited by many doctors, who were thinking & searching on what the main cause might be & how to diagnose it.
            After a decade they agreed to give it a name, another decade passed till they come to a conclusion on how to treat it, but then again they were not convinced by their own suggestion so the recommendations got out of hand, this cycle was repeated by old and new faces, several of them feeling entitled to be the sole capable doctors. During this time the situation of the patient deteriorated, they promised the family they will put all their efforts to rescue him and turned to their rooms for research. One day they were told the patient stopped to breath, they were shocked and they again started to ponder on the cause of his death, that of their failure & planned for deep research. They succeeded on narrating their stories in the public & were still convinced they can rescue the patient who already died, because some member of the family told them he is still alive, he just stopped to breath.
            All doctors were equally concerned but their concern was divergent.

            All this can never happen in the real medical field, but in the world of politics, because there is no accountability as it
            have as in many other fields.

            ናይ ሰዓት ሕላፍ ሕንጠጣ እዩ ኣይተቃልበሉ:)

          • haileTG

            Thanks Tzigereda, precisely! That was what happened and the analogy really connects to our existing situation and how we got here. Can we really have such a degree of an irreconcilable differences?? Unlikely, perhaps something is hidden from us. Just saying:)

          • saay7

            Tzigereda:

            This is viciously funny. And tragic. And hilarious.

            Did the doctors write ቅልዕቲ ደብዳበ ካብ ግዱሳት ሓካይም too?

            saay

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat-TG,

        Don’t worry he will not come to you as he did to me. He can not confront two fronts. The irony is, he is more religious than me who doesn’t pray once a day, once a month, once a year….etc since I joined our armed struggle, in 1974. Yegermal! Hailat, don’t refrain from quoting as far as it helps your argument. We are in a face time in this crucial battle of ideas.

        regard

        • haileTG

          Hey Aman H

          Sorry brother, I didn’t intend to inflame your differences there with Bayan! In truth, you guys have far more things to unite you than divide you. Let the by gone be a by gone! Same to brother Bayan too.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    The current military configurations seem to be building up in the western Tigray region. Primarily, the issue concerns land dispute between Amhara and Tigray regions. However, the national and regional factors have also added more actors to the theater, i.e. ENDF and EDF.

    TDF: has a strategic objective which are both short and long term. In the short term, they are there to open a corridor to the Sudan so that they can replenish their rear guard. In the longer term, any land gains will have a corresponding advantage in a subsequent arbitration to resolve the long running border dispute with Amhara. In any case, at least for now, it is a matter of life saving undertaking.

    Amhara Militia: have a strategic objective of regaining what they consider land that belongs to them. Ultimately, the issue has to be resolved by credible arbitrator and this makes it questionable if a war is a necessary price to pay for them.

    ENDF: has a tactical advantage of gaining the upper hand in any potential peace negotiations to find a comprehensive solution.

    EDF: has a tactical objective to maintain a weak TDF that would not threaten the power of Eritrea’s dictator. No strategic or tactical objective as it pertains to Eritrea itself can be had from fighting and dying in western Tigray.

    From news media, it appears that the build up is a conventional war style. Both sides amassing large contingents of infantry, mechanized and artillery divisions. If a frontal assault is undertaken by any side, it seems it would be between EDF/ENDF vs TDF, the Amhara militia may not be combat savvy to handle such professional military maneuvers.

    EDF can’t launch fresh preemptive operations into Tigray under the current political and diplomatic circumstances. ENDF is very unlikely to launch the same from the south because its ranks are just recovering from a catastrophic defeat in the operations of last two weeks. This leaves TDF with the only possible side to do so.

    TDF may go for frontal assault, attacking other parts of Amhara or crossing into Eritrea. The first one would require the highest military cost and the third one the highest diplomatic cost. The second option is not a clever one because what is the point of going to Amhara with EDF attacking the rear guard from the north?

    As, things shape up for a decisive battles, it is interesting to notice from the UNSC briefings yesterday that the world has still not gotten to grips with the nature of this conflict.

    Have a great week end, this general will now put away his arm chair until after the battle formations get in the move again.

    • Dongolo

      Selam haieTG. The TPLF is in a quagmire. If the TPLF does not acknowledge and accept the Ethiopian Cease-Fire, Ethiopia will then have reason to continue its its isolationist position (with humanitarian exceptions) as the TPLF will be seen as the belligerent party.

      • haileTG

        Selam Dongolo,

        I was about to start a new thread on ceasefire and since you started it, I will join in.

        The vice president of Tigray region has given an update on the overall situation and the terms of ceasefire as put down from their side. I will only pick out on the parts that pertains to Eritrea and make a short general observation as to what the next stage seems for this conflict and its resolution.

        The terms of the ceasefire includes (relating to Eritrea):

        1 – All Eritrean forces to re-deploy to positions prior to the conflict

        2 – All Eritrean security personnel to be withdrawn not only from Tigray but the rest of Ethiopia

        3 – All border dispute that is contagious along Tigray/Eritrea boundary to be only worked out with the Tigray Regional administration

        4 – Establishment of independent body to investigate all violations in the last 8 months

        #3 above is a set-back to the Ethio-Eritrea border dispute as far as Eritrea is concerned, but I don’t see it being a big deal for PMAA, he might even use it as an offer in any give and take. For Eritrea, it is back to the no war no peace situation.

        #2 above and other Ethiopia related demands such as budget, restart of services, release of prisoners (including non-Tigrayan) and re-instatement of civil servants, all points towards a move to a government of unity in Ethiopia rather than an outright independence. The ceasefire terms also doesn’t include for self determination but re-iterates its non-recognition of the current government of Ethiopia under PMAA as per their declaration back in September 2020.

        As far as PMAA govt and the new Tigray regional govt positions, these are not very wide and with well experienced diplomates, it can be bridged.

        It depends on PMAA, how much he would go along with the Amhara regional govt and how much he would stand with Eritrea. Otherwise, it is not too bad of a demand.

        • Dongolo

          Selam haileTG. Would point 1., imply that Eritrea would have to withdraw from lands awarded under the EEBC?

          • haileTG

            Selam Dongolo,

            Yes it does, but goes further when you look #3.PMAA can get around it by saying that there is no harm for the people at the border working it out by dialogue. For Eritrea it will be a non-starter.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat-TG,

          Any reference on the ceasefire you brought up for discussions? You are the only person who is catching up with the very fast moving politics of that region.

          Regard

          • haileTG

            Hi Aman H,

            I think it is implied in the call for representative government. Because, they reiterated their September rejection of PMAA.

            My initial assessment is that it is not a difficult situation to resolve under third-party mediation. The AU may take a lead, if you heard the Kenyan rep at the UNSC briefing yesterday, he indicated that much.

        • Peace ToAll

          YES, HTG
          Including All prisoners of consciousness like Bekele Gerba, Jawar Mohamed, etc.

    • Brhan

      Merhab haileTG Arkey
      “TDF may go for frontal assault, attacking other parts of Amhara or crossing into Eritrea.”
      NYTimes said this today
      In recent days, some Tigrayan leaders have suggested that troops could march on Asmara, Eritrea’s capital, to oust Mr. Afwerki, who harbors a decades-old enmity with them.
      Mr. Debretsion sounded a more cautious note. Tigrayan troops would fight to push Eritrean troops over the border, he said, but not necessarily go farther.
      “We have to be realistic,” Mr. Debretsion said. “Yes, we would like to remove Isaias. But at the end of the day, Eritreans have to remove him.”

      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/03/world/africa/tigray-leader-interview-ethiopia.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR1WYkC1r08H9nQoqhnhKfNApKpe3vGPzMtFAsw-aX70AOwb0Tc13KEfuoU
      Even though GR said the opposite, but I believe th big boss is DG and is following MZ’s example.

      • haileTG

        Hey Brhan abi seb!

        Yes, I don’t see an actual military benefit from purely practical aspect.May be some skirmishes in the western front, otherwise, marching all the way to Asmara would serve little purpose more than settling old scores with IA.

    • leGacY

      Greetings HTG,

      Amhara are just not good fighters! Are they? If one surveys historical wars, there is no a single victory one can attribute to them. Starting from the mid 16 hundreds where they employed the service of Portuguese mercenaries to repel Turkish incursion– to their hero Teodros committing suicided instead of leading his troops –to the fleeing of Haileslasse to London in the middle of Mussolini’s invasion of Ethiopia. Who can forget Megistu’s flight to Zimbabwe after all that talk of dying for “Andit Ethiopia.”

      They only success they had happened in Adowa.

      Like you said ,the Amhara militias are rather more of an after thought than a serious threat.

      What do you think the role of The Sudan would be?

      They are not even good at politics. If you survey the world media, you would think that everyone is taking marching orders from Woyane Headquarters. They suck at wielding opinions.

      One thing I have to credit Amharas is their fiction writing prowess! Holy person! They are really good. Have you read FIKIR ESKE MEKABER? We are talking about Shakespeare level literary quality here. Who else would concocts a nonsense like Ethiopia as 3 thousand years old?

      Thanks for all the updates ma brother. I always read them.

      • Peace ToAll

        Selam leGacY,
        Leap service is their trade mark, Don’t go too far look the ደብተራው አቢይ

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam leGacY,

        1. “Amhara are just not good fighters”

        I know you are not alone in making this and similar derogatory statements, but there is no historical, social, or scientific bases for it. They didn’t come from Mars, as far as we know:-), we are all related and we have never been separated long enough for any of us to have evolved into separate tribe with distinct traits from the rest.

        What may have lead to this mistaken assumption is perhaps the frequent unjust leaders who make “Amhara” their power base and ultimately lead them into unjust, unworthy, and naturally, unwinnable endeavor.

        ቀና ዓላማ እንጂ የጀግንነት እጥረት ኣይደለም ለማለት ነው፤

        2. “…their hero Teodros committing suicided”
        Atse Teodros was half Tigrayan, and, if we must split hair, half Qemant.

        Thanks.

        • Abi

          Fantastic
          ማንኛውም አማራ ግን የዓፄ ዮሐንስን የጀነራል አሉላን የእምዬ ምንሊክን የአባ መላን ዘርአይ ድረስ አብዲሳ አጋ…..ጀግንነት በክብርና በኩራት ሲዘክር ይኖራል::
          አንዳቸውም አማሮች አልነበሩም ለማለት ነው::

        • leGacY

          Hi Fantish,

          Didn’t know that Teodros is half Tigraway.

          Anyway, it seems my illogical statement tripped you :- You accused me of making casual generalization and then you proceeded with:

          “frequent unjust leaders who make “Amhara” their power base and ultimately lead them into unjust, unworthy, and naturally, unwinnable endeavor.”

          Unjust leaders are not unique to Amhara. Everyone has them but looking at the anecdotal events I quoted and the recent humiliations the suffered you will have to agree me that when it comes to war matters they just “are not it!”

          But ,as always being the eternal optimist that you are , you decided to opt in for the more charitable explanation .

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam leGacY,

            First, thank you for being kind.
            Second, in fairness to you, let me state one other thing regarding why Tigrayans may have, if any, an advantage over our cousins far and near.

            A friend who participated in an anthropology seminar once explained to me that societies who live in mountainous regions have to negotiate tricky terrains and hunt successfully to survive.

            Eventually, he says, part of their brains get rewired accordingly for a quick response when they approach a cliff too suddenly. I found this interesting enough to ponder about for a while.

            So,at least, we can attribute our “quickness” to our mountains!

          • leGacY

            Hi Fantish,
            I guess there is some truth to that. Whatever it is ma brother, they suck at it! But very good fiction writers. hahah…While I am at it, since I seemed to have appointed myself to be the Amhara expert of the week, let me also pull this contention out of my rear i.e Amharigna being the lingua franca of Ethiopia is one of the reason why we are so backward. Think about it? It is a language that lacks precision and full of double intendo. You know the “sem na work” nonsense!

          • Abi

            Hello leGacY
            The first thing the next parliament should do is declare English as an official language and relegate Amharic to church use and ዘፈን:: I suggest you do the same to Tigrinya. It should be relegated to ለቅሶ ቤት use only. You don’t have to wait for the imminent independence .

          • leGacY

            Hi Abi,

            Hmmm..sounds a reasonable idea .

            My dearest, you don’t seem to grasp the tectonic shift that is unfolding …inane amharigna quips and whims are good for laughs but I don’t think they serve you any good when it comes to helping you digest these new realities.

            From these ashes the new modern Spartan state will rise like the Phoenix.

            Like I said, we will shape Ethiopia in our own image . Everyone is finding your tiny man has no longer clothes and his end days are numbered .

  • Abi

    Hello Gedab news
    ELF conveniently forgot to mention the lightning attack on the Ethiopian Defense Forces by the Tplf thugs.
    ELF conveniently forgot to mention that the unilateral ceasefire and the consequent withdrawal of the federal army that led to the Tplf control the cities in Tigray.

  • haileTG

    Merhaba ELF and saay 🙂

    ELF: The presser is good, could have added more facts and caught out EPLF on the act, but we are pleased to see grandpa enter the foray…go grandpa go 🙂

    SAAY: I don’t want you to miss this one! ST has been fully doxed for his work to mislead in the current war in Tigray. Great investigation, wanted to share…

    https://www.news24.com/news24/Analysis/analysis-eritrean-report-uses-fact-checking-tropes-to-dismiss-evidence-as-disinformation-20210703

    • Abi

      ኃይልሽ
      Grandpa’s borrowed and burrowed dentures don’t bite at all.
      ላለመረሳት የሚያደርገው ጥረት ግን ይደነቃል!

      • haileTG

        Abichu,

        When I say grandpa, it is with deep affection that one has for such a figure. The trouble is you guys are clueless about the Eritrean heart beat. You quickly fell into mistake, ELF has a huge soft spot in every Eritrean heart. Be careful.

    • saay7

      Hey Hailat

      That kid has more identities (Simon Tesfamariam, Red Sea Fisher, Red Sea Institute, New Africa Institute) than Jason Bourne. Unlike Bourne, though, he is always shooting blanks, his work taken seriously by nobody except NNNN and IAIA, the bubble of East African Fascists.

      Can you imagine: his day job is as a medical researcher. If he is as reckless with the truth in science as he is in politics, his career will be short lived.

      saay

  • Dongolo

    Selam all. What many conveniently forget is that there has been no independent verification of the claims of Ethiopian and Eritrean government atrocities against the Tigrean population.

    • haileTG

      Hi Dongolo,

      Please read the link I passed to saay below.