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The Lost Words of Yohannes IV and Abiy Ahmed!

In December 1888, Yohannes IV, the emperor of Abyssinia wrote an unusual letter to his Mahdist rivals in Sudan. Along with the Italians, the Mahdist were his arch enemies and major challengers. In his lengthy letter, Yohannes IV, called on Abu-Anja, a Mahdist leader, to end their rivalry and establish peace between them. His letter had the following main points:

  • We are all one people, we belong to one father.
  • Europeans (both Turks and Italians) are our common enemies.
  • By fighting among ourselves, we are harming each other and giving opportunities to our common enemies.
  • The right thing to do for us is to unite, cooperate and fight against our common enemies.
  • We should have regard for one another, let merchants travel across our borders and achieve greater prosperity.

As noted by Eritrean author and politician, Osman Sabe, this letter was certainly “wise.” Regardless of its motive, which in some ways appear to be a political maneuver to neutralize the Mahdis and focus on fighting the Italians; the letter, on its own terms and within its historical context, was visionary and foresighted. It not only recognizes the pivotal regional interdependency, but it also carries a message of tolerance, peaceful co-existence, and acceptance of the other. In contrast, Abu-Anja’s response was hostile and blatantly rejectionist. One possible factor, among major others, was Yohannes’s reference to Abu-Anja as “Dejach (ደጃች)”, an honorary Abyssinian title, which the translator wrote it poorly as “Dejaj ((دجاج” and the Mahdi’s read it to mean “chicken” in Arabic (دِجاج). Thus Abu-Anja, in his response said: “You refer to me as chicken Abu-Anja, I am not a chicken rather you are the chicken…”!

Conceptually, Yohannes’s letter was exceptional; however, in real terms it was the antithesis of his policies and actions. Yohannes IV is viewed by his countrymen as a hero who defended his country from foreign invaders, but he is equally viewed by his detractors as a fanatic and intolerant leader. Yohannes undertook a conspicuous “religious unification” project, which led to an era of religious persecution and cleansing. In May–June 1878, Yohannes IV convened a council at Boru Meda, where the Tewahedo Christian creed was proclaimed to be the only official doctrine in his kingdom. Accordingly, all other Christian denominations, including Catholic and Protestant were deemed heretical sects and were harshly condemned. Other non-Christians, such as Muslims and Jews were called to convert or face banishments. As noted by the Italian missionary, Guglielmo Massaja, under Yohannes’s religious unification project, an estimated 50,000 Muslims, 20,000 “pagans,” and half a million “Gallas” -a wrong term used by Europeans to refer to “Oromo”- were supposedly forcefully baptized. Some prominent Muslim leaders in Wollo province were forcefully converted to Tewahedo Christianity. Thousands of Muslims fled to neighboring regions, many of them, as noted by Hashmi -author of the book on the history of Afar and Dankal-, took refuge in Afar region. The eighteen years rule of Yohannes IV came to a tragic end in the battle of Metemma with the Mahdis in 1889, where he was killed and his religious unification project came to an end. Tragically, his “wise” words were buried with him and saw no light.

I swear to God, we will never harm you!

In April 2018, Dr. Abiy Ahmed took charge of Ethiopian premiership. There was an immediate change of tone in the policies and bilateral relationship with neighboring countries. Shortly after his ascension, he paid a visit to Egypt. Following his meeting with Sisi, the Egyptian president; Abiy Ahmed, in a joint press conference, said to the Egyptians what sounded in essence what Yohannes IV said to the Mahdis. His statement highlighted the following:

  • We are one people, we have common interest.
  • The past internal-struggle among Africans was detrimental to all.
  • We need to forget the conflict ridden past and usher into an era of cooperation, win-win and common good.
  • The media, in both countries, should foster common understanding, promote peace, progress, and focus on what unites us.

The speech of Abiy Ahmed, delivered in Amharic, was very refreshing and visionary. It created a sense of hope of a new era of regional cooperation and peaceful co-existence. The response of the Egyptian president sounded optimistic, but also doubtful. He awkwardly asked Abiy Ahmed to repeat after him in Arabic “I swear to God, we will never harm you.” Interestingly, Abiy Ahmed, with some struggle in pronouncing the Arabic words, repeated Sisi’s words!

The good will created by Abiy Ahmed’s promising words didn’t last long. The optimism created was short lived. Egypt and Ethiopia are now on the verge of potential major conflict. The words of Yohannes went nowhere, they were dead at the time they were ascribed and they are now part of historical archives. History will tell what the fate of Abiy Ahmed’s words will be. Would they find the same fate as Yohannes’s words or would they become the candles of a brighter and peaceful future? There is still chance, his words could have a positive lasting outcome, but the current mounting tension points to the opposite.

The unmistakable writing on the wall

The above noted historic exchanges highlights the dichotomy that exists between these lofty words and the tragic realities on the ground. These words, even though, buried before fruition, they still remain relevant and they are the remedy for the regions endless conflicts. As long as these wise words remain far from the real life, the misery will continue. The people of this region are interdependent. They have common blood, shared history, mutual dependency, and common destiny. The regional history clearly illustrate that change of course is overdue; if not on principle, but on account of common interest. The short sighted “win the battle” mindset that infests the region is only leading to losing “the war” for all. The voices of factionalism, regionalism, sectarianism, need to be replaced with the voices of mutualism, bilateralism, inclusion and coexistence. Confrontation needs to be replaced with dialogue; friction needs to be resolved through negotiations; win-lose mindset needs to be replaced with win-win; hate needs to be replaced with love; grievances need to be replaced with forgiveness.

The tears of the mothers who lost their loved ones, the bloated belly of hunger stricken children, the bodies of the young killed in the dungeon of war, the scorched villages, the refugees stranded in no man’s land, the wasted natural resources, the polluted pristine environment, the endless misery and suffering of the masses is a clear message that a new way of thinking and a new approach is overdue. Neither Tigray, nor Amhara, nor Oromo…; neither Sudan or Ethiopia or Eritrea etc. can succeed unilaterally; the spirit of Yohannes’s letter and Abiy Ahmed words need to see light. Chauvinists of all stripes; regional, ethnic, religious, have ravaged the region and with social media at their disposal, they have poisoned communal relationship. Eritreans and Ethiopians, in particular, and their neighbrous need to think different and open their eyes to the unmistakable writings on their walls.

A new breed of leaders with a wiser sentiment, broader vision and creative thinking is desperately needed. Perhaps the kinds of leaders Nelson Mandela speaks about in his autobiography. Mandela notes that the tribal elders in his region don’t make decision on the basis 50+1, which he describes as Western, but on the basis of consensus. They spend lengthy hours in repeated meetings to achieve consensus instead of making quick decisions that only suits some and alienate others. He notes that they can do it because of their wisdom, experience, and commitment to the common good. True, the regional issues are more complex than tribal issues, but that only means more sophisticated and more shrewd leaders are need to be at the helm. Chauvinism and factionalism is cheap, shallow and cowardly, it doesn’t require much ingenuity. Consensus building, finding common grounds and fostering a broader collaboration requires creative minds, bigger hearts, and deeper foresights.

We are all in one boat!

Perhaps the example of the upper and lower deck of a boat in a saying of Prophet Muhammad is a good illustration that drives the point. The Prophet said:

The example of the person abiding by God’s commands and the one who violates them is like the example of those persons who drew lots for their seats in a boat. Some of them got seats in the upper part, and the others in the lower. When the latter needed water, they had to go up to bring water (and that troubled the upper deck passengers), so they said, ‘Let us make a hole in our share of the ship (and get water) so that we do not trouble the upper deck passengers. If the people in the upper part left the lower deck passengers to do what they had suggested; then all the people of the ship would be destroyed, but if they had prevented them, then both parties would be safe.” Hadith # 2493, Bukhari.

Everyone in the region is in the same boat, the only way the boat can survive is to think the good of the boat not only a spot on the boat. It is understandable to see people dancing in the street after every factional victory. But the fact remains that the real time to celebrate isn’t when one faction prevails over another, but only when all factions prevail over their own egos and seek a common victory.

A paradigm shift needs to occur at all levels. Such a shift can only happen when each regional segment comes to terms with the fact that it is part of a bigger whole and it can only succeed when the whole succeeds. Intellectuals need to pave the way for such a shift and save their pen from serving chauvinistic, self-defeating, and shortsighted ventures.

References:

Haggai Erlich, Ethiopia and the Mahdiyya – You Call Me a Chicken?
Arnold Thomas, The spread of Islam in the world
Mandela Nelson, The long walk to freedom
عثمان سبى، علاقة السودان بإثيوبيا عبر التاريخ
هاشم وجمال الدين الشامي، المنهل في تاريخ وأخبار العفر الدناكل

About Ismael Ibraheem Al-Mukhtar

Ismael Al-Mukhtar is a scholar, a mentor, and and Eritrean writer. He lives in Canada

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  • leGacY

    Good Afternoon Awate Community!

    Another harrowing account of this horrible war that was launched 8 months ago to exterminate a group of people from the NYT today.

    Borrowing from the concept of the Doomsday Clock which by the way is currently at -20 seconds, I am introducing the Rwandan Minute .This is a clock set to the time when Amharas start rounding up all Tigrawot and mass execute them. I am putting the clock at -5 minutes. Feel free to rewind it forward or backward.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ትፍልጡ ዶ ስለምንታይ ህግሓኤ ናብ ህግደፍ ከምዝተቐየረ?
    “ሓርነትን ኤረትራን” ዝብላ ቃላት ንኣምብረዛ መርዘን ‘የን።
    ህዝቢ ኤረትራ ሓርነት ክረክብ ጠሪሱ ድሌት ዓቢ ዓርገን ኣይነበረን: ኣይከውንን ድማ።
    ስለምንታይ?
    ስለምንታይ ዝብል ለባም። ካብ መሰረቱ: ሃገረ ኤረትራ ክትትከል ድሌት ኣምብሬዛ ኣይኮነን።
    እዚ ናይ ሕጂ ውግእ ድማ ብሓንቲ ጥይት ንክልተ የዕዋፍ ንምቕታል ‘ዩ ኔሩ ትዕላማ።

    ሓደን ቀንድን: ኤረትራ ናብ ኢትዮጵያ ከሰልማ
    ካልኣይ ድማ: ወያነ ዕንቅፋት ስለዝኾንዎ ንዓኣቶም ምስ ደሃኸ ብቐሊሉ መን ‘ኻ ዝብሎ ዘይብሉ ኣብ ቢያቲ ጌሩ ከረክባ።

    ኣዴኻ ከምዝለኣኸታካ ዘይኮነስ ዕዳጋ ከምዝጸነሓካ ኴኑዎ: ዕላማ ዓቢ ዓርጌን በርዒኑ ተሪፉ ንብለኩም። የግዳስ ሕጂ ውን ኣይደቀሰን። ከመይ ጌሩ ክድቅስ?

    • haileTG

      Hi MM,

      You are right, he is a spent cartridge from now on. He can move if he wants but his life dream of subversion of Eritrean independence is finally dead. For real this time.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Hailat the Great!
        ኣይንተሃመል። I would say, not yet. There are thousands of Ethiopian soldiers in Eritrea, as we speak. From what I hear, Eritrean soldiers are in Badme region and other border areas. His extreme wish is TDF to crash our young soldiers. If TDF wins, this guy is known to raise the white flag. By that time, who is in Eritrea? The Ethiopian soldiers. They will stay there indefinitely, till they claim Eritrea is now part of Ethiopia, per the Greatest Ethiopian, DIA’s, blessing.
        Who is going to stop him?
        God forbid.

        • haileTG

          Hey MM,

          Damage wise, the final bill isn’t ready yet. But you need the political mechanism to dissolve the sovereignty of a UN member state. He has lost that momentum yesterday and it ain’t coming back. He may cost us materially but that is about it. The collapse of the Tigray invasion has killed any possibility of going forward with the evil plan. Ajoka arkey selita eya guday.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ኣፍካ ይስዓር! Hailat the Great!
            ካላስ! ምስ ጫማይ ናብዛ ዓራተይ! ሕጂ ግን ሓደ-ክልተ ብጫ ጠራሙዝ ጎርዳዕ ከብል። ፍስሃ ወሰላም ‘ኳ ጌርካያ መሬት 🙂

          • haileTG

            Abshirka brother,

            Didn’t you hear PMAA is looking for ports southwards? Eritrean sovereignty will be as secure now that the PFDJ AND minions are reduced to hibUna hibUna….but we feel bad for the things they did in Tigray regardless.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mehandsay,

          Eritrea is saved from the conspiracy of the two despots. The success of the TDF is also the rescue of the Eritrean sovereignty. There is no a “joint government” or making “one people” or “joint navy” or the claiming of “our ports” by the Amara elites. Our sovereignty is “sound and alive” from the dynamics of the war. From my end it is a great relief from my fears. That is how I see from the dynamics of the war and it’s result. I have no doubt with the demise of the evil despot, that the two people will live side by side harmoniously with mutual respect. The hope is alive.

          Regard

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Prof Emma,
            ኣፍካ ይስዓር ከምዛ ናይ Hailat TG!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    Look how history practically exposed the lies of Abiy Ahmed and his generals in the link below. History has spoken on record on the side of Tigray people and

    https://youtu.be/Rr3C6l-DvuQ

    Regards

    • Peace ToAll

      Selam Awate,
      Still in denial but this is the tip of the iceberg. Soon ODF will be droving the expansionist from Finfine and the surroundings.
      ይገርማል፡ የአብይና፡ የአቢ፡ምላሱ፡ ዘመዶች፡ እንደ፡ ከብት፡ በዱላ፡ ሲነዱ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ቃል ይኣቱ
    ዓዋተ ከማዕርጋ
    ብዘይከውን ቆይቊ
    ኣብ ሓሬት ከይርግርጋ
    ‘ንተኸኣልኩ ቅዱስ-ሓሳብ የምጽእ
    ‘ተዘይኴኑ የእዳወይ ጥምር
    ኣፈይ ዕብስ
    ከብል ይመርጽ

    ከመይ ዝበለት ዩኒቨርሲቲ
    ናይ መጻኢት-ሃገርና ርስቲ
    ብ ከማይ-ወዲ-ኸማይ ክትባላሾ
    ንመን ክሕሾ
    ስለዚ ቃል ይኣቱ
    ከይርብሽ ገዛ-ዓዋተ ከየርስሕ
    ጠቓሚ ርኢቶ ‘ተዘይኴኑ
    ዘይ ሃናጺ ከይሰርሕ
    ቃል ይኣቱ

  • woldu hadgu

    Ahatn, Ahwatn:

    Accidentally I posted the above before I finished my thoughts. My appologies.

    …..Where are the PFDJ operatives and the others who are brainwasher by them in this scenario of waiting for Godot? They definitely without an iota of doubt, they want for Godot to arrive. What do they want from Godot? What else? They want Godot to do their “dirt” job so he can purge their conscience from eating them alive. The cloud of Cruelty against humanity is gaining momentum, hovering and surrounding over their being and it will rain and flood. So waiting and sweating are the logical consequences of evil irresponsibility.

    Comin back to real situation, IA and the PFDJ people cannot wait for TDF to invade Eritrea so that they will sing AYBELNANDO! These people who take the tyrant as their prophet are salivating for his prophesy to come to fruition. Idols don’t have eyes to see; don’t have ears to hear.

    Alas! Godot is not going to come. TDF are neither a bunch of ignoramus nor blood sucking savages. They are good students of history and are generous people: Zeinatom Zeidelyu. Plus why would they do the “dirt” job of others? Why shoulder the sin of others?

    The same as Godot will never arrive, TDF is not going to invade Eritrea. Cleaning Eritrea will be left to Eritreans. And what a job it will be? Monumental, but Doable. Then all Eritreans will cease waiting for Godot and will start rebuilding the broken house on a rock.

    May God bless the Peoples of Eritrea and Tigray.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam WH,

      I am lost. What is “Godot” pls?

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Amanuel
        “ waiting for godot “ is an expression that has been used in this website million times.
        Basically, It is an expression used to convey a frustration where you wait a long time for something to happen but never materialized.
        There is also a movie if you are interested.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Thank you, Abi. I don’t know how I miss it,

      • Brhan

        Selam Professor
        “Waiting of Godot” is an absurd play by Samuel Beckett. It is one of the classics. It is one the best palys of theatre of absurd
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_the_Absurd

        • Abi

          Brhan
          Where have you been? Ato Amanuel was waiting and waiting and waiting ….
          It took you six long hours, Mr Godot:)

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Ras Abi,
            That’s funny Abi… very funny. Brhan must have missed your comment explaining Godot and he did it again. See! Don’t blame him. The cover images of your comment didn’t have a click bait 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            Glad you found it funny.
            Brhan was busy searching for Godot.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Brhan,

          Thank you brother. You see , I am not a person of movie or theater. Aha, that is why I was lost. Every day is a learning day especially from the subjects I wasn’t interested in my life. Thank you again.

          Regard

  • woldu hadgu

    Dear Ahatn Ahwatn Deki Awate:

    Waiting For Godot:

    Many are waiting for “something” to happen in the current war. So anxiety and angst have imbued the air.
    Some are asking when is Godot coming? Some are hoping Godot never arrives.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia (AP) — Ethiopia’s ruling Prosperity Party has been declared the winner of last month’s national election in a landslide, assuring a second term for Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed.

    The National Election Board of Ethiopia announced Saturday night that the ruling party won 410 seats out of 436 in the federal parliament, which will see some seats remain vacant due to no election having been held due to unrest or logistical reasons.

  • Peace!

    Hello awatistas,

    Just wanted to clarify so I won’t offend people whom I have enormous respect.( saint fantish)

    ዱወ ጆኮ is not a disparaging term it refers to having both ways. It is street language for ክዊዒ ብማንካ ክዝሕል ቢኢድካ:: I hope that clarifies.

    Peace!

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Peace!,

      You made me laugh!

      We are all in the boat, remember? In fact, let’s suggest to awate that instead of salutation we should be required to start our posts with “we are all in the same boat.” It is really hard to say much after that.

      • kokhob selamone2

        “we are all in the same boat.” Thank you Fanti,

        Do you see the same from the above article the? And what about my comment to brother Ismael-(the writer of the article) bellow ? I 2nd you.

        Dear awate management,
        Consider our request please. We should start by saying “we are all in the same boat.” Make the consideration in addition to what you put ” Dear ”

        KS,,

      • Peace!

        Hi Fantish,

        Thank you! you know it and even found it funny, what a relief. And Your recommendation is right on the spot. ብፍላ ይ ኣብዚ ግዜ ኩላ ረቒቓ ዘላ:) We call you saint Fantish for reason.

        ናብ ኣውራሪስ ) ወይ ሞሞና ገጸይ ሃጽ ክብል እየ ሓሲበ ነይረ 🙂

        Peace!

        • Hashela

          Selam Peace

          “ብፍላ ይ ኣብዚ ግዜ ኩላ ረቒቓ ዘላ”.

          ኣነ ጥራሕ’የ ድሓን ደለኹ:)

          • Peace!

            Selam Hashela,

            ከምኡ እዩ ዝመስል ናይ ሎምቅነ ምርቃቕ በይኑ እዩ ዓይነቱ ወላ ነዛ ሓደርኩም ምባልውን ክንጥንቀቐላ ጀሚርና መወዳእትኡ ይግበሮ እዩ ዘብል::

            በል እዚኣ ኣይተስተዋሕዳ:
            https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ3L1mXK65AItt_qR7-TeLcIVrrt_6Crv

            Peace!

  • Abi

    ሰላም የተከበራችሁ
    የጀግኖች ጀግና ዓፄ ዮሐንስና ኮሎኔል አብይ በምን ይመሳሰላሉ?
    ሁለቱም ግብፆችንና ሱዳኖችን በአለም ፊት አሳፍረው መልሰዋቸዋል!!!!

    እንዲህ ነው እንጂ!!!

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear Brother Abo,

      This is true and perfect if you mean to UN. እንዲህ ነው እንጂ!!! This is the reality and you should accetp the realty too.

      KS,,

      • Abi

        Kokobe
        The reality is the future is brighter!!!
        https://youtu.be/btuC2IfwmfQ

        • kokhob selamone2

          Dear Brother Abo,

          The reality will be brightest for all of us when we all reach the 5D.

          https://thisartcalledlife.com/2021/01/22/creating-heaven-on-earth-the-new-golden-age-ascension-5d-and-the-new-earth/

          KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I don’t know about this 5D thing. Or I don’t dream about heaven on earth.
            All I dream about is the 6000 mega watts becoming reality.
            That is a lot of ዳቦ!!!!

            “No matter how long the night might be, the day is sure to come “ said a wise man.

            እመኛለሁ እመኛለሁ ዘወትር በየዕለቱ
            ላሳካ ኑሮን ከብልሃቱ ::
            የጥልሽ ዘፈን ነው

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Abo,

            Wow, what a song man!! That was in 60s, You let me go the past reminding me. All I am saying is the same but to the present moment and the future.

            You and me should go to Jebena page.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            In case you missed it he is “አዲስ ነኝ ለዛሬ”
            I rather be with you at gebena page than getting on the same boat with Fantish.
            እዚህ ላይ ወራጅ አለ!

          • kokhob selamone2

            “we are all in the same boat.” Dear Brother Abo,

            I don’t agree with you on this, Let us be together, You may understand me, I am for peace and tranquillity and development. No, war is needed from now on.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Thank you very much for this beautiful song.
            Here is The Legendary Getachew Kassa playing ትዝታ. He set the standard so high only the other Legendary singer, Bezawork Asfaw played it like him.
            https://youtu.be/HiGsJf7RhLI

    • haileTG

      Hey Abi…and Tigray was important for both of them:-)

      • Abi

        ኃይልሽ
        I strongly disagree.
        አባቱ ዳኛ — ልጁ ቀማኛ!

      • Brhan

        Hello haileTG
        Watch 1:11:17 / 1:54:45 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B_USDLwfaE&t=4277s
        ኢሳያስ ኣብዚ ጥራይ ሓቁ ዶ ‘ኾን?

        • haileTG

          Hey Brhan,

          I would say that it is best to be careful. Ethiopia and other riparian countries signing a valid agreement on the sharing is a wise move to save future generations from conflict. However, I would say IA was being narrow, un-states man like and more like the people who have interest in stirring the problem like some were doing here to AH and BN – thanks for your intervention though. So, IA should not be taken as reference to anything except to tell us where are all those he disappeared.

          The Catholic Church use to perform exorcism until recently, on people possessed by a demon. On key rule that all priests involved in such exorcism is that they should not listen to, converse with, acknowledge, answer a question or what have you with the demon. The simply sternly order it and drive it out. W
          The reason being is that interaction with the demon will ultimately result in it gaining foothold and putting the priest in danger. We need to follow the same principle with IA even if he says something that sounds reasonable and intends to attack one side of the conflicting parties. When we have our rightful government, we’ll be able to help both parties credibly in order to benefit both of them, the region and future generations.

          Sorry I went as long as the devil himself:)

          • Brhan

            Hello haileTG

            The link that I shared with you was included in an investigative article of Aljazeera net. I will try to share with you this point from the article.

            Isayas is telling a story to the journalists.

            Isayas is saying that Meles Zenawi told him the incident of 1993. What Isayas is trying to explain is that MZ was emotional, and this because the late Egyptian spy agency director provoked him.

            MZ said he wants to develop Ethiopia using the river, and the director said to MZ, “ who are you to say this”

            I believe the Egyptians ae now cursing their former spy chief.

            In another way, according to Isayss, this means that had the director did not stir MZ, the latter would not have thought about the dam.

            I agree with you that Isayas is a troublemaker and also consider the timing: 2016. The point is if Isayas is asked the same question, now will he answer differently.

          • haileTG

            Thanks Brhan,

            Imagine IA now being asked about the same issue? He would say “In 1993 an Egyptian spy was asking him to help train Ethiopian opposition to derail Ethiopia’s development and he told MZ that Ethiopians should have fair chance on development. But MZ went and occupied Badime fully aware that I would be tempted to do as the Egyptians asked!” The problem is not IA (in Tiigrigna called ሓሳዊ ወሽላኽ), it is the people who take the idiot seriously. Remember what he said about Ethiopian constitution? “in 1994 MZ told me…and behold, I told him….” He is a lowly character and God knows what his interests could be! If Nile doesn’t become issue now, it would be in the future. He could have said this is a good time as any to hammer out a good generetional agreement to benefit everyone and spare next generations. GiE need to think about diplomatic questions like this and Eritrea’s stand. እንተ ናይዚ ጹሉል እዚ ግን ግደፍ ደኣ ብርሃን ዓርከይ ዓዲ ብዓዳ ክትዋዳእ እታ ዞና’ዩ ዘፍትዎ’ኮ 🙂

          • leGacY

            Hi HTG,
            “The problem is not IA (in Tiigrigna called ሓሳዊ ወሽላኽ), it is the people who take the idiot seriously.”

            This phenomenon isn’t unique to us . The masses are just one of the most ignorant groups but what differentiates us from the rest is the degree. We are just a sorry beings. My take on this is our ability to uphold diametrically opposed view in our mind simultaneously without any discomfort.

            What is your take on this ?

          • haileTG

            Hey LeGasY,

            May take is that we tend to entangle personal/group interests with national interests. When these two collide, we form our position on the latter based on the former. When then the nation is in crisis, we leave it to fend for itself. That is due to lack of experience in nation building.

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear all,

    I would like to attach. The most knowledgeable which is asking for our unity. Tebeges/ initiative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4nISqL9O7A&ab_channel=TeddyPress

    KS,,

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Haile-TG & All,

    Since all the arguments we make in this forum, is indirectly an ideological argument based on school of thoughts, let us see how the presentation in link can help us how the decipher politics of the unipower of the US and the rising China will affect our politics in the long run.

    https://youtu.be/RO3izbn201s

    • Mez

      Good day Amanuel,
      1) Exactly, this is one of the perspectives to look into our infighting in the wider horn of Africa.
      1.1) us led west, and China-led brics (so to speak) are actually in a rush to get investment-foothold in our region. Up to now China is outperforming the us with big margin.
      1.1.1) as things stand now, ideology (which played a big factor in the past century), is pushed further back as number two or three.

      Thanks

      • haileTG

        Hey Mez,

        On a lighter side….are you a lawyer? Why do you chronicle your points in such interesting numbering system than 1, 2, 3…

        • Mez

          Good day haile TG,
          1) I do modeling (forecasting) for living,
          2) I “Chronicle my points” because of their inherent cascadedness.

          Thanks

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear brother Ismael,

    Thank you for this nice article. I wonder about the explanation of We are all in one boat!

    Yes, no one is exceptional even those spirituals leaders. Why then we are just blaming to each other? Watch the crime committed by those one nation people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph4qVZZaKjM&ab_channel=TigraiMediaHouse

    This a tragic and a crime done by those Amhara over the heroes. How do you see that?

    KS,,

    • Abi

      Kokobe
      You are back to hallucinating. Leave the Amharas alone. Your people are killed by your TDF on a daily basis.

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother Abo,

        Accept the reality please.

        KS,,

  • haileTG

    Hello Awatista,

    Happy Friday!

    Asmara 1996

    https://youtube.com/shorts/g13TtfOdio4?feature=share

    • iSem

      Hi Hail G:
      Are you this was in Asmara? Do you have an idea where this guy is now. He looks a diaspora Eritrean

      • haileTG

        Hey iSem,

        …as per the author of the video, I think so. If not, can’t be sure with video nowadays, I would say Germany, pure guess…worth investigating.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Sem & Hailat-TG,

        He lives in Sandiago CA. He is a member of Sewrawi- Bayto, now EPDP. He read his poem in 1996 at the yearly festival of the organization, in Kessel, Germany. You must listen the entire poem to understand the School of thought of ELFites.

        Regard

        • iSem

          Thanks Emma:
          I was going to tell Haile G that if this was read in Asmara and the guy was still alive that my debates will be like BY, softy on PFDJ. And BY will take place Dongolo or Hasella por Gheteb LOL

        • haileTG

          Thanks Aman,

          I updated it as per those facts. Do you have a link for the full poem?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hailat, I will try to search it,

          • Tzigereda

            Hi Emma & HaileTG,

            Here is the link:

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XNOVi59rthg

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Tzigereda,

            Thank you Doctore, you save my time,

          • iSem

            Hi Embaytey Tzigerda:
            Welcome back and nice to see you!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Tzigereda,

            ይበል መደረን ግጥምን! ገጣሚ እንሃለ!
            እቲ ህዝቢ’ኸ እንታይ ክወጾ።

            ኣርተብሻል ጸጉሪ ካይተዘውተረ
            ኪሻ ቁኖ ኣራእስ ካይወጠረ
            Solid Beret ርእሲ ካይቀበረ
            ወዚ ህዝቢ ኣመና ካይተቐየረ!

          • Desbele

            Selam Aman and Haile,

            And excellent interview of Tesfay Tekle just 3 weeks ago,
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVnTZe20Xpk

          • kokhob selamone2

            Dear Brother Desbele,

            Eember Desbele,

            I totally enjoy this link, I saw it some days back. That is excellent really. Thank you Desbele.

            KS..

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Woldu Hadgu and all

    First thing first: Welcome back, it is a pleasure to hear your voicing your opinion. Having said that, please allow me to say few things.

    1. – Well ብጻይ, I served my country along your side in ELF as well; but for sure, I don’t share your views. I know most of the names of the brightest and educated fighters in ELF. But I don’t recall your name. Either Woldu Hadgu is a penname; meaning you’re not as confident as you want us to believe; or you’re simply lying. But that is not the most important thing here. The most important thing is: bring a topic of your passion and prove us all wrong for all to see. And then, and only then, I will tip my hat for you to show my utmost respect, and as an acknowledgement for all the claims you made above. Otherwise………

    2. – Most of us, we do throw ourselves into Awate’s Lion’s Den to be devoured mercilessly, for one simple reason: to add value to Eritrea’s political discourse. And we do so, by tackling every conceivable hot potato issue under the sun, that our Nation is facing today. Eritrea’s – Sovereignty, Territorial integrity, Land, system of government, Party Formation and Election Laws, Official/Working Language, Education Policy, Health Policy, Duties and Obligations of every citizen to protect defend and Serve Eritrea……. just to mention some. But you’re not talking about none of these hot topics. Meaning: you’re not adding any value to the Eritrean political discourse – of course, very diverse political discourse as it should be.

    እቲ ቀንዲ ዕላማ፡ በብዓይነቶም ቅርጽን መልክዕን ዕቤትን ዘለዎም የእማን ወቒርካ፡ ግቡእ ቅርጽን መልክዕን ኣትሒዝካ – ጽኑዕ መሰረት ዘለዋ፡ ብቐሊሉ ዘይትድፈር፡ ጸጥታን ሰላምን ብልጽግናን ዝሰፈና፡ ዘልኣለማዊት ኤርትራዊት ቤት ምህናጽ እዩ። ናይ ሎሚ ሓሳብካ ካኣ፡ ኣብ’ዚ ዘተኮረ እንተዝኸውን ምሓሸ ነሩ ይብል።

    3. – “Those who are antsy about housekeeping in this site, my questions will be: what benefit do we get from paid/unpaid operatives who come to this site to disturb and defile? I never learnt anything from Semere Tesfay, Hashella (which I detest even his choice of name), Abi (the court jester), and Nitrick?”

    Few points here:
    A. – You don’t add any value to a National political discourse by talking to yourself and to your mirror-images all day. That’s why we come here – to challenge and to be challenged, And that’s why we are tolerated to be here – at least to a certain point. The main objective being: to learn from each other and to narrow the gap for the common good.

    B. – People react towards you, based on your reaction towards them. So, would you be surprised, if the very people you’re trashing and belittling here, reacted towards you with the same manner? I hope you wouldn’t be surprised. And like I do, I hope you don’t find that as something that interests many highly regarded readers, who visit this great website every single day. Having said that……

    4. – Insulting and trashing those who disagree with you is not an idea – it is a manifestation of personal weakness. Whining moaning groaning and complaining is not a vision – it is a sign of defeat in itself. Boasting and self-aggrandizing doesn’t win you an argument nor does it earn you respect.
    So you are educated, you knew some of EPLF and TPLF top leaders while you were in school – probably in Institutions of Higher Learning. But still you’re no body; you’ve accomplished nothing in life as a National or international figure like them. How does that make you feel (knowing these top leaders)? Does that make you proud about of yourself? How so?
    There is a befitting in Tigrigna: ሓተላ ምስ መን ነርካ? – ምስ ቀዳሞት

    5. – “We Eritreans have an Evil tyrant in our midst: a killing machine that spared no one. This machine was designed to kill the body; muzzle the tongue; blind the eye; deafen the ear; cloud the mind; shackle the leg; break the spirit and darken the soul.”

    A. – Aren’t you for muzzling “the paid or unpaid regime operatives” here? Tell me: If it is wrong for the PFDJ regime to muzzle Eritreans inside Eritrea, why would it be right for you to muzzle the “paid/unpaid regime operatives” here at Awate? Aren’t you being a hypocrite?

    B. – Aren’t most of the anti PFDJ regime opposition for violent regime change? Weren’t they riding Woyane tanks to Asmara, in order to get to the helm of power in 1998? Weren’t they ready to ride Woyane tanks to Asmara in 2020? Why is violence against the PFDJ regime justified, and violence against the Woyane manufactured, armed, financed, and coached opposition unjustified. In your opinion, why are the Woyanes justified to attack the PFDJ regime in every possible way, and the PFDJ is not justified to do the same?

    6. – ” Please: Let us leave TPLF to the good people of Tigray.”

    A. – Really? We don’t have any obsession with TPLF. TPLF has an obsession to kill Eritrea, and what Eritrea stands for, in every conceivable way. TPLF has an obsession to claim and own sovereign Eritrean Territories. TPLF has an obsession with our Red Sea ports. TPLF has an obsession to dismantle the fabric of Eritrea – along its religious/ethnic cleavages. TPLF has an obsession to make Eritrea a failed state by breaking its spine. To this very second – the remnants of Wayane – are dreaming to return back with vengeance to own Badme and dismantle Eritrea. Woyane’s most famous line, and that is most repeated speech by Woyane goons to this day is እቲ ቀንዲ ጸገምና ኣብ ኤርትራ፡ ኤርትራዊ ሃገራዊነት እዩ።

    B. – In today’s Eritrea, with about 80,000 residents, the beautiful city of Keren is the second largest city in Eritrea. The Woyanes deported more – Eritreans and Ethiopians with an Eritrean origin – than today’s residents of Keren.

    C. – They separated husbands and wives, parents and children, friends and families. The Woyanes confiscated their properties, stole their life savings, and humiliated them in public for the whole world to see – with “the color of your eyes” speech. They arrested the young by the thousands, and made the poor women, children, and the elderly Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin, to cross the border into Eritrea – through a war zone, passing through land mines, and dry arid lands, with nothing but cloths on their back. Some didn’t even have shoes.

    D. – The Woyanes refused to accept Colonial boundaries and treaties of 1900, 1902, 1908 between Menelik and colonial Italy and ignited war on Eritrea and Eritreans. And after all the loss of lives, properties, and opportunities, the Woyanes refused to abide by the EEBC border ruling and were occupying sovereign Eritrean territories until the day the sun set on them.

    7. – Now let’s ask ourselves:

    A. – Is Woyane anti Eritrea and Eritreans or just anti the PFDJ regime? Why/why not?

    B. – In the last 30 years, did the Eritrean Opposition stood-up for Eritrea and Eritreans; or where they an accomplice of Woyane? Prove it.

    C. – For the Eritrean Opposition, was/is it a wise move on their part, to side with the Woyanes – from 1998 to this second ? Is, siding with the Woyanes and standing for Eritrea and Eritreans mutually exclusive? Could you stand firmly for Eritrean interest while supporting the Woyanes and all the Woyanes stand for?

    Semere Tesfai

    • woldu hadgu

      Dear Semere:

      First I want to thank you for your courteous introduction.

      You wrote ” I know most of the names, of the brightest and most educated fighters in ELF. But I don’t recall your name”.

      So besides those you knew, there were none other bright and educated fighters in ELF? Or would be bright and educated afterwards? Do not underestimate human potential. Even though I don’t know you in person, I definitely know you are intelligent and gifted person. I can identify a person by what he/she writes.

      In a way, what I admire about you is you are “open book” ,passionate and straight shooter. There is no mystery about what you believe and stand for except one prominent “secret”. If you don’t mind can you briefly answer for me if you are a member of PFDJ?

      It is a silly question but at least the circle of my curiosity will be complete and in the future I will interact with you with full integrity. As for me I do not have any affiliation with any political organization. Actually I am a Pacifist Humanitarian activist.

      I also have request from you: when your group succeeds to replace IA, please do not relegate us as unwanted foreigners and allow us to visit the land where our umbilical cord is buried. It is a small request but means a lot to me.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Woldu Hadgu

        Let me explain why I said what I said:

        1. – “You wrote “I know most of the names, of the brightest and most educated fighters in ELF. But I don’t recall your name”.
        So besides those you knew, there were none other bright and educated fighters in ELF?”.

        Of course I can’t say there were none. That would be stupidity on my part. The reason I said, “I know most of the names, of the brightest and most educated fighters in ELF. But I don’t recall your name” is because, between June 1975 (right after ELF 2nd National Congress) and May 1977, I was assigned in a department or in close proximity to it, where the brightest, the most educated, and the most intelligent Tegadeltis where concentrated. ማለት ኣብ ወይ ምስ ክፍሊ ዜናን (ክፍሊ ፈነዋ ሬድዮን፡ መጽሄትን)፡ ፖለቲቻዊ ቤት ጽሕፈትን (Political Cadres School) እየ ተመዲበ ነረ. I was also in close proximity to Social Affairs Office from the days of Homib to the days of Sawa. I don’t remember meeting Amanuel Hidrat but I know in-person many of his colleagues from Social Affairs Office. Also, I was a frequent visitor to the ELF Research Center – which most of them were my close friends, And that’s why I said what I said.

        2. – “If you don’t mind can you briefly answer for me if you are a member of PFDJ?”

        I think you’re not as frequent Awate visitor as I thought you were. I’ve been asked by many and I’ve answered this same question many times here at Awate. But to answer your question directly and sincerely, I never have been ተጋዳላይ ህዝባዊ ግንባር፡ ስሩዕ ህዝባዊ ግንባር፡ ወይ ኣባል ህግደፍ in my entire life – to this very second.

        3. – “I also have request from you: when your group succeeds to replace IA, please do not relegate us as unwanted foreigners and allow us to visit the land where our umbilical cord is buried. It is a small request but means a lot to me.”

        Woldu: You’re pleading to the wrong guy. I’m as connected to the powerful as you are – if not less. Ever since my Gedli years, I have been to Eritrea only once – in 2005. Like many visitors of this Awate forum, you can disagree all you want, but I write with passion what I believe in, independent of any political organization. And you can take that to the bank. I hope I answered your questions to your satisfaction.

        Woldo: It was pleasure conversing with you. Thank you for engaging, and thank you for all the respect.

        Semere Tesfai

    • Solomon

      Selam Semere Tesfay,

      “TPLF has an obsession to kill Eritrea, and what Eritrea stands for, in every conceivable way.”

      If TPLF and its leaders has been a fraction barbaric, genocidal and shortsighted criminals (you can insert here any insult in the world like rapists, war criminals, petty looters etc. and it will just fit perfectly) as your demigod DIA and its barbaric for hire army in the Badme war between Ethiopia and Eritrea imagine what would have happened to the Eritrean people?

      If TPLF has an obsession to kill Eritrea what forbade it from doing so after it broke the back bone of the Eritrean army and penetrated deep into Eritrean territory when your demigod was calling world leaders for ceasefire in the middle of the night after repeatedly rejecting ceasefire previously?

      Remember TPLF has the army and resources of a country with hundred million people at his disposal at that time. If they were as half unprincipled and reckless as your demigod and the genocidal Amhara elites and politicians ruling Ethiopia nowadays, all they have to say is let’s annex Assab even Eritrea, do you think the Amhara elites, now friends in genocide of your demigod would have opposed. I am not saying the Eritrean people will not resist occupation but the mayhem and destruction would have been as catastrophic as your barbaric army for hire is doing in Tigray today.

      Even at the height of the war TPLF never questioned the sovereignty of Eritrea. Even now after your barbaric army ln collaboration with the genocidal Amhara army causing so much pain on the Tigrean people TPLF is not wavering from its principle.

      Since you are pro PFDJ aka pro genocide you don’t want to remember all these facts. If you were pro Eritrean people you should have known this is not the time for bad mouthing TPLF but to help the Tigrean people to alleviate their pain your demigod and your barbaric army for hire is doing in whatever ways you can, like some of the wise Eritreans in this forum are doing. Remember one way or the other justice will be served one day and pray at that time the leaders in Tigray are more like TPLF than PFDJ.

    • leGacY

      Hi Semere,

      “TPLF has an obsession to kill Eritrea, and what Eritrea stands for, in every conceivable way.”

      E=A=T therefore E=T

      The mighty have fallen from grace. By this arithmetic logic it appears your people’s struggle all along has been to free yourselves from the colonialist Tigrawot. So, everything circles back to Tigray. Doesn’t it?

      Time to hit the printing press and revise history books. I don’t think your story of Ethiopian Colonialism will hold any water after all these shenanigan with the Amhara people.Do you?

  • Hashela

    Selam Deki Awate

    Here is an article whose author sees the future of TPLF differently than the Western Media.

    https://nairobilawmonthly.com/index.php/2021/07/08/tplfs-dwindling-fortunes-as-it-remains-isolated-and-irrelevant/

    • iSem

      Hi Hashela:
      First, we do not need analysis that TPLF will not be the same, meaning they will not ruling Ethiopia by marching too Addis. Even locally the issue if separation will have more traction than before. So why are you charmed by the obvious
      second this writer has an ax to grind with TPLF, many Kenyans do, I do not know why. I heard two other government officials from Kenya announce the death of TPLF after the start the war. Prematurely
      This writer is not a neutral observer: he said TPLF looted billions of Gold and Abiy has popularity. The first he does not furnish proof, or cite sources. the second, Abi like MH is doing the Amhara agenda, which is to rule Ethiopia, impose Amharic language and culture with in: Somalia, Sidama, in Tigray, Ormo. We cannot compare him to Debretsion because D is only popular in Tigray and even if AAA is popular in Oromo or Amahra, it is local arithmetic, not nationwide. You see the absurdity of this dude

      • Brhan

        Hello iSem,
        I followed language debate among Ethiopian parties and PP said if it wins in the election it will make the following five languages official in Ethiopia.
        Amharic, Oromo, Tigrinya, Somali and Afar. In his analysis the PP candidate said , the last three are chosen because they are spoken both in Ethiopia and Ethiopia’s neighboring countries, including Eritrea. If Tigray goes by itself, I think , Tigrinya will be dropped.

        • Abi

          Brhan
          Tigrinya should be replaced by ስዋሂሊ. It has no use in the future Ethiopia.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I agree with you on this. I am sure you meant after Tigray leaves the union. However, Somali & Afar will follow and of course the Oromo.
            The question is who will keep the name: Ethiopia?

          • Abi

            MM
            Keep hallucinating. That is the best you can do at this moment.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I usually don’t say I told you so but in this case it won’t be long to tell I told you so. God willing that is!

          • Abi

            MM
            You are not the first person to tell us ( ስታሟርት) that Ethiopia will disintegrate without Tigray.
            Ethiopia is standing tall! Moving forward!
            You keep hallucinating. It is free.
            What is ሟርት in Tigrinya?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Like I said, it won’t be that far to tell I told you so.
            How would I know what ሟርት is? I detest amharic. I lost of > 50% of my family b/c of those amharic speaker barbarians. Ask you Amiche hgdf lady or those some of the ላንጋ ላንጋ people here.

          • Abi

            MM
            I pleaded with you not to mention family in the debates. You don’t seem to have the decency to obey to my repeated efforts.
            You are pushing your luck here. If you are unable to do so, please please please do not communicate with me.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Your comments directly affecting my family. To you, it is a joke but not o us [excluding those hgdfites suddenly turned Amhara lovers]

          • Abi

            MM
            It is your right to hate the Amharas and their language.
            It is also your right to keep hallucinating to see Ethiopia disintegrated.
            It is all good.

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Uganda’s Museveni urges Africans to unite through Swahili
            https://www.africanews.com/2021/07/08/uganda-s-museveni-urges-africans-to-unite-through-swahili//

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hashela,

      Even though you have removed your callous statement, I have to respond to it, if you are ready to learn:

      When you say the “dead Dinisaur” to ELFites, it tells how naive apolitical individual you are, no matter what academic achievement you claim to acquire. ELF wasn’t a political organization only. ELF is a school of thought. ELF was also an idealist organization where it’s philosophy has permeated in the lives of Eritreans – transcending from generation to generations. An idealist organization will continue to exist by the ideas it espoused – which passes from one generation to another generation. It does not die with the passing away of it’s members.

      • Hashela

        Selam Amanuel

        Firstly, learn to cite accurately, otherwise it is perceived as a fraudulence.

        Secondly, agree ELF that , with all the short-comings it had, was a relatively successful organization from which a more dynamic, coherent, and militarily superior organization evolved: the EPLF. Like all organic and successful organizations, ELF and EPLF had and have individuals who are hell bent to defame and destroying Eritrea by associating themselves with Eritrea’s mortal enemy: TPLF.

        Finally, my gears arrived and I am heading toward high elevations, leaving the virtual Danakil Depression (elevation below 0 m and temperature: > 45°C) you are trying to create and maintain.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hashela,

          You don’t understand what I have tried to tell you. If you don’t want to be misquoted, you should leave your statement posted. But you knew how callous you are and removed it,

      • Hashela

        Selam Amanuel

        Amanuel, you wrote “… no matter what academic achievement you claim to acquire …”, questioning my academic qualification.

        Today, Beyan, whom you are tirelessly trying to degrade and denigrate, wrote a superb article and dug out a poem written by our Haile S., one of the several “መሃንዘል” who are, with your encouragement, belittled at a daily basis. Both the article and poem highlight the culture and mob mentality that you and your followers are cultivating and nurturing here.

        Beyan observes “To this day, in the Awate forum, one sees such blatant dismissal of educated lot in their respective professions. Not only that but the PhDs are also trashed and thrashed…”.
        … “In a culture that promotes armed heroism and mercilessness as an ultimate sign of leadership and manhood, where womanhood’s purpose is to pump testosterone to manhood, all other pillars of society are considered secondary, including education. The educated become the punching bag that can be denigrated, excluded, or are saved for belittlement when political situations demand victims in its midst.”

        With a bitter taste, I note that you are sliding deeper and deeper into the mob mentality against intelligentsia and people of higher education. For a lack of a better term and to hint the origin of your behavior, allow me to call it Kerkebet syndrome. A deep-seated fear and aversion of higher education by our early armed Ghedli leaders.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Hashela,

          I don’t think Amanuel Hidrat problem is with people who have higher education. ወሪድዎም መራሕቲ ገድሊ. You and Beyan happen to have one but I double he would the same thing if you are an Eritrean with PhD supporting TPLF. Or you happen to be a Tigraway with PhD supporting TPLF. ዓሰርተ ዶክትረት ምስ አሰከመካ ነሩ

          I am a person of no such Qualification and I have been the first victim of his transgression because he got the hint, that I did not support his “ethnic cleansing” claims. On many occasions he used his አሽሙር and being calling me PFDJ in all kind of different ways or as PFDJ apologist.

          I thought when the comment, why he started addressing Beyan instead of Dr. Beyan and I thought a slip up or something, but when he confirmed it, that he did it intention then I lost all hope. He

          I really don’t know how much they were banking on TPLF to defeat HGDF for them, and they don’t care if the whole “ethnic cleansing” that befallen in Tigray happens in Eritrea today as long as the PFDJ is defeated.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            The first victim was Semere H/Mariam couple of years back. The thing is Semere got back at him with full force. I remember he said “ I am not in your league “. In Amharic it means እኩያህን ፈልግ::
            As you said, if you are not pro Tplf, የጎሪጥ ነው የሚያዩህ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamamat Berhe,
            ጌጋ ዘረባ። በየናይ ‘ሞ ክጅምር። ኣንጻር ትምህርቲ ዘይኮንኩስ ኣንጻር ስንኩላን ሓንጎል ግን ምሁራት ‘የ። ዚኣ መዝግበለይ።
            You have a PhD doesn’t mean a squat. A person with a PhD can be good in their field but they can be clueless on others. Do you watch the Sheldon show? Those kind of PhD holders.
            Let me remind you a lot of famous/genius people don’t carry PhD on their shoulders. Just to name a few: the Gates, Zuckerburgs, Jobs, etc. On top of that, Einstein didn’t have a PhD when he published the Theory of Relativity. I don’t think our Saleh’s have PhD either but trying to compare with them would be a challenge [ሳልሓት: ከይንሽብዕ ጥንቅቕ ኣብዚኣ]. Oh before I forgot, the guy who owns the company and pays me every other week didn’t even have a BS degree.
            A guy with a PhD who has no basic compassion is not an a wise person to me.
            Why do you think a person with a BS or even HS graduate gets paid more than a PhD holder in a lot of cases? Because that person knows a lot in that field.

            Going back to our PhDs [some of them], when our neighbors get killed, raped, etc by our countries soldiers and do not have any guilty feelings, these are no educated people. Even some animals feel bad when they see some terrible things.
            To me, Emma is a full Prof. I wish I can say to some of these PhD holders.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi MM,

            ሕጂ ሸታሕታሕ ኢልካ. You are in the camp.

            1) Let me be specific. Beyan or Hashela and including me, have said it’s wrong repeatedly the damage done to Tigray population and the region. If you say they said something else, I have missed.

            2) What they said and that includes me, the TPLF is to blame for exposing the population to such killing and danger. I even said, the TPLF leaders would have been better of giving up their hands and go to jail if they must rather than bring the conflict to their kilil. I know that’s Beyan position, but I don’t know why do you and those TPLF worshippers [I have to say it] interpret this as NOT feeling sorry for the victims.

            3) The same people who see the damage war brings to the general public are willing and supporting for the war to continue in Eritrea by EDF as long as they go to Adi Halo. This too is also opposed by Beyan, Hashela and including me because we see the damage and the danger that will create in the region. At that point it’s yes linger EDF or Isayas but the Eritrean people which is what IA would love to have to justify his actions.

            4) The PhD or Doctor was a title in their respective profession. Just because they have different position and see the truth and the future differently it doesn’t mean they didn’t earn their titles.

            5) In other words it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, therefore there is no o reason to mix the two. No body is arguing that those with PhD are better off than those without. That’s diluting the discussion.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Berhe,
            “ሕጂ ሸታሕታሕ ኢልካ. You are in the camp.” What camp would that be?

            2) What they said and that includes me, the TPLF is to blame for exposing the population to such killing and danger. Really? Isn’t this confirming to what I was stating?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi MM,

            1) The camp of TPLF was right and don’t blame them camp. If you do you are against the people of Tigray and supporting Adi Halo.

            2) It’s impossible to make sense to those in the above camp

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Berhe,
            Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his! As you know this is from the wholly book. Nothing to add here.

          • haileTG

            Hey MM,

            I don’t know why you don’t get this simple logic? The TPLF is the only sane party that should have protected the people. The others are mindless killers who do it as a matter of nature, they had no choice. Rape, kill, plunder, burn, starve and humiliate. These are very natural and expected in the absence of TPLF taking any action that would avoid it, including submitting itself to be killed.

            Tigrayans are violated by those killing and raping their women and children. For sure, they will live with the long term psychological damage of what has happened to them. But, they can always blame themselves or TPLF for it and live everybody alone. Simple.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            I know this is not addressed to me but I sense that you are responding to what I said.

            Just to clarify, I don’t think anyone is making the argument, against those who think TPLF made the right choice. The way I see it when I say if the federal government have the case and demanded for the leaders arrest they should have given themselves up and deal in court. Their people, and the world community would be on their side. For example, what Melles did to the CUD leaders, accused of genocide etc but he couldn’t keep it longer than few months.
            This is just an opinion.

            No body is saying all the wrong that was befallen on the people of Tigray is right or not blaming those responsible.

            The issue is because someone with PhD of such opinion (different) it’s not right to strip off their title just because he doesn’t agree with your opinion.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Berhe,

            Yes, it was indirectly directed at you because I was observing የጥሞና ግዜ:-)

            As regards the two brothers Aman and Bayan, my standard approach is to say something that could bring them closer or stay out of it until they resolve their differences. No conflict among Eritreans is worthy for Eritrea.

            I will give you a quick context and ask you a question:

            Putting you feet on a Tigrayan’s shoe, the Tigrayan man has to contend with the knowledge that his mother, sister, wife and daughter has been raped by Eritreans invading on the side of other Ethiopian forces. He will be scarred for life – the degree and extent of destruction is paramount here.

            With the above context, if the Tigrayans come after their assailants, PFDJ, do you accept that either PFDJ should surrender otherwise any comparable damage on Eritrean civilian population would be its responsibility and Eritreans should blame PFDJ??

          • iSem

            Hi Haile G:
            There is something wrong with you today, did you have enough coffee, I suggest Timhorotns double double, dark roast. Here is what you are not getting, you are missing the logic, hear me out: to avoid the rape of his daughter, mother, the Tigryan man should have surrendered and the fair, independent court of great Ethiopia would have rendered its verdict. A man must protect the women in his life, surrender to her assailant to protect her, not run away to the jungle and wage war against your own county and against Eritrea, while refusing to abide the binding border ruling In Badme
            You see Haile G, you are smart man, boy, girl, elder, I cannot be sure, it is blurry, it is war, war makes your dizzy and in this dizzying times a man must surrender so surrender to the fact that the EDF is Eritrean and TPLF stupidly attacked NC, so what next Asab command to establish Agazian nation that will prosecute those Eritreans with Tibah Tibha, You are listening to much YG1 and YG 2 and the Bright Future dude who denied that his dad was martyred, he called him dead and said we did tezkarr. Calling your dad dead, for God’s sake he died while fighting he is not dead, he is martyred, but alive, tesewieu and the date was June 20

          • haileTG

            Hey iSem,

            Once this crazy war is over, I would like you to chair what we’ll convene as ሽማግለ ዓበይቲ ዓዲ ኤርትራ to work on peace and rapprochement between our peoples, A task list for the job is to organize a visit to Tigray and see first hand what happened and talk to victims. Then the same group from Tigray would also come to Eritrea and see and visit where Eritreans were buried and jailed while all this was going on. Both groups would do public awareness campaigns to show their respective people the realities that lead to such tragic event. A peace institute would be set up in each capital that follows up the work of reconciliation and collaboration.

            This is a big portfolio, we can install you at a ministerial capacity or a national peace envoy. The old PFDJ HQ will be renamed the Peace Garden and it will be the office from which you will be working.

          • iSem

            Hi Haile G:
            Humbled but please do not tell Sal that he has other post for me LOL
            I would choose a different awatista to chair it. You will be a remembrer, I will be a member. But we will give Fanti an Eri citizenship and make him chair of this Eri committee. What say you?
            Oh, please brase for: “iSem showed his true color” comment, “he is trying to bring Tegaru to Eri, what next, we told you so”

          • Berhe Y

            Hi HaileTG,

            I was poking you here and there and I am glad you responded.

            As regards the two brothers Aman and Bayan, my standard approach is to say something that could bring them closer or stay out of it until they resolve their differences.

            I agree with you and I had no intention to intervene. But this blaming of those with PhD because they have different opinion is beyond PFDJiet. I am surprised even my friend iSem join the fry. Off all people that I know, he was one person who understood the evil within EPLF than most. He has told me many stories and his theories how EPLF is against people with higher education. I will site some example that he told me:
            እዞም ኤርትራውይን ዶክተራት አ ወጻኢ ከይዶሲ ካልእ ዱክትርና አብ ክንዲ ዘጽንዑ እንታይ እዮም ሕጊ ገለመለ ዘጽንዑ::

            ንሕንቲ ዓዲ ሐደ ክልተ ሕጊ ምሁር እዩ ዘድልያ ዝተረፋ ግን ካልእ ከም ሕሳብ መካኒክ


            With the above context, if the Tigrayans come after their assailants, PFDJ, do you accept that either PFDJ should surrender otherwise any comparable damage on Eritrean civilian population would be its responsibility and Eritreans should blame PFDJ??

            I do agree with you partially.
            1) I agree the Tigrayans should go after PFDJ. Now what that means can be different to different people. In case of the war, they should go to the higher political and military echelon of the country. Those are the responsible party. The foot soldiers did not go in their individual capacity to do harm to the people but ordered to do so. By this I don’t mean they are off the responsibility. As an Eritrean I want this conflict and cycle of conflict to end. TPLF going after PFDJ and it doesn’t mean the end of it. Then PFDJ will go after TPLF and the cycle continues.

            To go after the “PFDJ” and ended up fighting and damaging civilians then the war is no o longer limited to PFDJ.

            So my wish and my hope is, taking its legal venue (as hard as it is) the best way forward and leave to time to heal. Tigray will be better off and Eritrea will be better off.

            I understand if people do not agree and that’s fine but as an Eritrean I want to see a peaceful future instead of fuelling the conflict and create lasting animosity.

            In short I do not want to see Eritrea and Tigray to be Israel and Palestine but like Eritrea and Sudan.

          • haileTG

            Selam Berhe,

            I agree 100%. EkuwA nabti senay hasab hazka ember selam eti zbelexe ftaH eyu.

          • iSem

            Selam BY:
            Please add to theTIgrinag you quoted me that it was EPLF ppl who said that not me. From the way you put it soundes that I said them. I know that was not your intention.
            About me joining the fray of bashing educated Eri, please retract that, Where did you read that. I just said there are a lots ppl who support PFDJ despite them knowing better ad educated ppl. I have written about the many time before, not now. The same thing I told the accounting Phd you and I met with his wife in a funeral with our two friends in summer 2003. I told him when he bought us drinks that what does the Phd teach you guys to be fooled by a drop out. I mentioned a few ppl with Phds from the public domain to make my point. So do not confuse trashing educated ppl like PFDJ does and telling some educated ppl they did not live uoto their education of critical thinking, of integrity, of intellectualism.
            Raas Abiyot tells you that you are slow. I disagree with him, I will disagree with him but I tell you to slow down. You are misquoting, mischaracterizing, falling for the Dongolo and Hashela trap for reason beyond my compréhension and uncharacteristic of you.
            I address brother Beyan as BNB he know why, it is sort of inside joke:: Beyane Negash Beyan. I discuss with him about his doctorate in email and tel, I call him Dr during those convs, sometimes, but never addressed him as Dr Beyan here, so I never took away his tile.
            About BNB and AH, you know them as I do, I talk to both of them and they are the nicest ppl here. Period. Even when they talk about the other with me in the absence of the other, they have deference and admire each other tremendously. Dongolo and Hashea have their agenda and you are helping them fan it, most likely unwittingly

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            I have made the correction and i meant in the same way you understood.

            I know you respect Beyan a lot so I never meant that you took away his title.

            I can say I know Hashela for a long time and I can say honestly that he has no agenda but his agenda is the well being of Eritrea and Eritreans.

            I can’t say what Dongolo wants but we disagreed many times with him the way he characterize all opposition as the work or servants of TPLF.

            I will take your advice and slow down, but please don’t expect me to stop from airing my opinion, even if I don’t agree with.

            FYI, I heard two videos today:
            1) Negarit
            2) Falfasa

            I agreed with both of them 100%. They both said the same thing I was saying and the same thought I have. I respect both of them and I am glad to know that I am not the only person who feels the same way. May be you can watch and see what you think and it will help me (and you where you and I ) are do not agree.

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            You said “I will take your advice and slow down, but please don’t expect me to stop from airing my opinion, even if I don’t agree with.”
            I never asked to stop airing your opinion and I never request, demand agreement, but I expect logic from my debaters, I am not saying am the prince of logic, though am better than PFDJ

          • iSem

            Hi Haike G:
            semay zHagerka, have you heard any Eritrean, I mean justice seeker saying Tigray should separate

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat haileTG,
            Correct and how silly I am.

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. Again, all the (alleged but not independently created confirmed) atrocities in Tigray could have been avoided if the TPLF had simply withdrawn from Badme. Instead, the TPLF attempted to assassinate PMAA, refused to withdraw from Badme, attacked Ethiopian northern command and launched missiles on Eritrea.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Dongolo,

            Suppose those are the reasons for conducting military intervention on Ethiopia’s internal conflict:

            1 – how did that help to solve any of those problems? Hasn’t each got worse now?

            2 – You heard victim witness statement, even Ethiopia’s PG has charged atrocity in Axum, now what part of a war on TPLF allow for such actions on citizens?

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. Exactly! The TPLF’s horrendously injudicious decisions & actions unnecessarily brought calamitous suffering to Tigray region. Atrocities which have occurred in Tigray region, as a result of the war environment created by the TPLF, have yet to be independently confirmed in terms of determining true perpetrator identity.

          • haileTG

            Hi Dongolo,

            Not really, especially as it concerns Eritrea. EDF was bombarding Tigrayan position and fighting inside Tigray for at least 10 days before a single missile landed.

            TPLF hadn’t announced any new position about the border than its 17 years stand. In fact, Tigrayans came to Eritrea to make rapprochement, sent representatives of their chamber of commerce and sought for the reopening of the border areas.

            Nothing was on the offing from TPLF towards Eritrea by way of war or threat. We aren’t going to take IA’S version because he is a proven lair and petty war monger.

            This is a war and destruction he brought on the country. What Ethiopians think of each other is a matter for them.

            Eritrea has taken a position that is now a total flop and achieved nothing. Demarcation is as remote as ever, TPLF is back in power and PMAA is no more safer.

            We now need to start the clean up process.

          • Dongolo

            Selam haileTG. Confiscate matters til no end in favor of the TPLF terrorists (we would expect nothing less from you) but it still will not change the fact that had the TPLF simply withdrawn from Badme, great tragedy and suffering of Tigray people could have been avoided.

          • haileTG

            Hi Dongolo,

            I am on the side of Eritrea and not PFD. Truth is the way out of where we find ourselves in. We have other further steps to completely resolve the issue, but that is for later. It doesn’t concern PFDJ, the latter need only transfer power to people or do it under duress. We don’t want it anywhere around.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ አርከይ
            Do you get your information from a clearance rack at the back of a grocery store marked “price reduced for quick sale “?

          • haileTG

            Hey Guad Abi,

            Truth is even cheaper than that it is freely available. You only need to buy falsehood, truth is free for the taking. 🙂

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Apparently, your information is counterfeit with a past expiration date.
            Don’t consume it without checking:)

          • Mez

            Dear Haile TG,
            You said: “The TPLF is the only sane party that should have protected the people. The others are mindless killers who do it as a matter of nature, they had no choice….”
            how interesting your persuasion is.

            Thanks

          • haileTG

            Hey Mez,

            Context, context my friend. It is a rhetorical response.

          • Mez

            Dear haile TG,
            The context is the war in tigay, too obvious to mention.

            Thanks

          • iSem

            HI MM:
            You channeled Welwel. in Bolonga he said: no matter how brilliant, how educated, no matter how brave you are in the fire of war without comparison and law, you are useless. It is long time, so this is not verbatim
            So I agree with you above. I once quit this forum for months until something pulled me and wrote about Qtaws. I quit because absurdity in this forum and now listen to the absurdities. TPLF should have surrendered, they attache NC. This is not even PFDJ line, it is the Amahra elite line: Why did they attack NC, for fun? the criminals are those who invaded Tigray and raped and killed in th name of EDF under IA’s command, it is like Canada attacking Quebec with the help of USA.
            You see MM, in early 2003 this website profiled, an independent journalist who was a lone voice in the struggle against despot in early 1990s but during the border war he found an opportunity, Yemane Gebreab paid him 1000k and he turned his Arabic news paper to PFDJ propaganda. The man was Hamdan, and the awate team wrote: Hamdan once was a man and by man they did not mean human, they meant sebay beal sire:-)
            I know an ex ELF fighter who dared ELF to solve the war with EPLF and he was imprisoned as Falul and then released, but it was ELF so unlike the Menkae he was not killed. This brave dude in the border war found an opportunity and became a PFDJ lackey, He wrote: “for the sake of our country, I support my government “and he visited Eri often, History rhymes and someone here was once a justice seek, ardent PFDJ critic, never gave them the benefit of doubt, now for the sake of our country and ports…..

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat iSem,
            If I have to describe us in three words, I would say “ኤረትራውያን ተሓዋዊሱና ኣሎ”

          • iSem

            Hi MM:
            Ya wed Nuqqta, I did not understand? There are some ztehawosom. You do not strike me as one, iSem does not strike me as one, HTG does not sound as one, AH, doe not seem one
            Do not lump as in one Eritreans. Stop your engineering elegance and terseness LOL

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi iSem,
            I have a bandpass filter, very steep, high Q and it seems you guys are within the band. Some of course rejected, with a min of 80 dBc harmonics rejection 🙂

          • woldu hadgu

            Dear Berhe:
            There is something called reverse psychology. I in my educated guess, deep down in you subconscious mind, you are dreaming that TPLF dethrones IA and PFDJ.

            It is YOURS and only YOURS dream that you are trying to hide and subscribe it to others. This is hypocrisy. Come forward and be clean brother,

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Woldu,

            The other day you wrote below. I didn’t bother to respond you because you were passing judgment on what I am afraid or not afraid, instead of simply addressing to what I wrote.

            Now you seem to psychoanalyze me and you are doing reverse psychology on me. Listen if you are a freak I mean psychiatrist please find someone else to experiment with, otherwise keep your opinion of “what I am afraid” and “what I dream about” to yourself.

            If you have reached to a conclusion like some other Eritreans:
            1) it’s easier for TDF to attack Eritrea and overthrow IA
            2) it’s easier to take away Eritrea lands and sea and declare independence of Tigray
            3) it’s easier to convince the people of kebesa except Dembait and Muslims and create Abay Tigray

            Then by all means come out if your closet and say so like these guys are saying.

            Other than that argue on what’s written ዘይተጻሕፈ አይተንብብ


            Dear Berhe:
            you wrote"....however, they might have hidden agenda....". might....might,,,,,might.... will take you no where but to madness, oblivion and nothingness. Liberate yourself from senseless and detrimental fear first and then think about your people. Simply you need Free mind; Free Spirit and learn it from the people of Tigray

        • iSem

          Hi Hashela:
          you are fanning this thing kem suwaa zteamela komarit, you are giddy. Beyan was not talking about why Emma did not call him Dr., he was talking about a different thing. And that anti educated mindset is PFDJ and you are throwing stones from your glass house or are you one of those in the PFDJ educated who were initiated to change their class to cheguar danga, to repeat words of the boss?
          You and BY are beating the dead horse, the unfortunate rift, the misunderstanding between BNB ad AH, Why? for what end. One apologized and one accepted. You are like the priest in Toronto who prayed for IA, our leader and never mentioned the 350 Eritrean who perished in Italy while the entire Eri community was in mourning and shock that week. Do you care about the 300 Eritrea who are reported wounded or dead in Hintsatsh refugee camp? By the way why are they in Tigray? Maybe you can show the forum an equation that solves why they are there

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hashela,

          Mobs culture and mob fighting is in the house of PFDJ where you are dancing in the “mob culture” and clapping on the “mob fighting”. You are a frightened dude condemned to repeat as a parrot to what your Mob master and his lieutenants are telling to his mob followers. The current war in Ethiopia is the concocted war of your mob master to erase the Tigrian people. Unfortunately, our sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters are dying in a war that has nothing to do with our national interest. It is sad one who claim to have a PHD can not understand this unfolding realities.

    • Desbele

      Thank you Hashela,

      This is the second time , keep reposting Yemane Charlie’s tweets here. Many are blocked from following him, your repost will help them have a glimpse of pfdjs’ spins

      • Peace!

        Hi Desbele,

        I think the material he posted is the subject on hand. If you don’t agree, then make your points.

        Peace!

        • Desbele

          Hi Peace,
          I am on subject. I am encouraging him to share important information from YG and i stated the reason. You may as well do the same.

          • Peace!

            Hi Desbele,

            Obviously you didn’t read the article— reading is fundamental.

            It is about TPLF’s crimes against humanity, the looting of $30 billion, and taking hundreds of metric tones of gold from the country’s gold reserves over the last 30 years.

            Please read the article it might shade some light and help you make a correct assessment of the situation.

            Keep in mind, PFDJ crimes will not wash TPLF crimes and massive looting no matter how hard the fringe elements try. And Eritrea will stand tall once the dust settled.

            Peace!

          • Solomon

            Selam Peace

            “Eritrea will stand tall once the dust settled.”

            The dust will never and ever settle not until your genocidal leaders from top to bottom face the justice they deserve. The sooner the better for all. Eritrea will carry the burden of this genocide forever like Germany carries the burden for the genocide it committed on the Jewish people forever. It may be forgiven but will not be forgotten.

          • Peace!

            Hi Selie

            First of all, they are not my leaders, and we are all responsible for the group of thugs. Second, I completely share your frustration but despair and pessimism will only give them an extra day to kill more and destroy more. We do have a moral obligation to bring the misery of our people to an end.

            Peace!

          • Solomon

            Selam Peace

            If you believe in what you wrote above, then why are you perpetuating propaganda disseminated by the criminals you disavow. If you are serious about your words you wrote above stop disseminating propaganda against TPLF recycled for years with no proof by the genocidal Amhara elites and PFDJ propagandists. It is propaganda like this that contributed to the genocide committed in Tigray. If you want to help ending this genocide it is by doing what you can to defeat the barbaric DIA army and Ethio/Amhara expansionist army, not by creating false equivalence between TPLF and PFDJ. What I am feeling now is not frustration and despair but rage. Don’t try to minimize the pain inflicted on the Tigray people.

          • Desbele

            Hi Peace,
            I know of a UN expert panel cites crimes against humanity committed by Eritrean authorities on ERITREANS!

          • Peace!

            Hi Desbele,

            Yes. is that new? In fact, do you know how many innocent Eritreans PFDJ killed and imprisoned since the UN report you mentioned released, certainly thousands. What have you done as a responsible citizen to rescue your people and salvage the country is a moral question we all need to ask ourselves. Of course I, too, blame myself.

            Peace!

          • Peace ToAll

            Hello PFDJ’s,
            Please do not perpetuate ESAT & HEGDEF lies. TPLF’s crimes against humanity?? At least Tigrayans are still intact on their own land They have not started any EXODUS yet. You guys are in denial about what is going on in the land of Eritrea. Eritrea will be out of the state of misery not by diaspora leap service but again by Tigrayans. Read my leap!!!

          • Peace!

            Hello ድወ ጆኮ,

            If you are paying attention TPLF is reduced to a little more than a stooge for imperial powers. It has no longer genuine cause for Tigray people let alone Eritreans. Enjoy your honeymoon with bbc and cnn till your times up and face the same fate as ISIS. It is a disgrace to brown people.

            Have a nice weekend:)

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hello Peace
            “እኔ እንደፊቱ ሆኜ ሳጫውታት
            ደርሶ እንደ መቅበጥበጥ እንደ ልጅ ሲያደርጋት” ይላል ቴዲ ነፍሴ ከአንጋፋው ሮሃ ባንድ ጋር!
            እስቲ ባንተ ሥም ለቀበጦች ለቀበጥባጦች ልጋብዝልህ::
            https://youtu.be/IIgHt1q8nEU

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            ንድ በይኝ
            በትዝታ በትር
            በናፍቆት ኣትቅጪኝ

            ደርስሽ ባየሽልኝ
            ኣካሌ እንደከሳ …..

            https://youtu.be/nIZ96NSbuOk

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hello Peace
            My all time Teddy song!!!!
            በደከመ ጉልበት ባለ በሌለ አቅም
            ላንድ ቀን ዘንግቼሽ ውዬ አድሬ አላውቅም::

            When Hayat Adem was my part time lover, I sang this song for her:)

          • leGacY

            Hi Peace ToAll,

            Always find it amusing that everyone except themselves is to blame for their misery. I am yet to come across any decent soul who would admit that they are responsible for their own destiny therefore whatever misfortune might have fallen on them they are to blame.

            There was the UN then Hailesselasse-then it was the West-then it was Woyanes. How do these people manage to get up everyday? I guess it is true what they say about misery loves company.

            Even the monster Issu isn’t to blame for this life of hell that most Eritreans have been condemned.

            Accountability starts from self.

  • woldu hadgu

    Dear Awate citizens:

    Operatives go and operatives come. No one invite them but Awate’s door is always left ajar and anyone is welcome. For me I will always be grateful for the founders and those who run the site for their largesse and forward thinking philosophy.

    Awate.com is my home; my living room; my bedroom; my kitchen; my front yard; my backyard; my companion when i travel; my umbrella when it rains; my flashlight when dark and many more.

    I am pure Eritrean (if there is such term) with Adi, Inda, woreda and awraja and have fought battles and wars to make her independent but more to make her free. But I lost my dream like many others because my organization was defeated.

    My contribution was not only unrecognized by the tyrannical and Evil system but I was deemed traitor with a particular term: Woito Woyanne.

    My consolation is I am a proud Awate.Com Citizen and I cannot ask or wish more than this.

    I have a name. So I am not an apparition. A clear sign that I am not an operative, paid or otherwise. I fight for truth and can happily lie in a railway line knowing I will not be crushed by a train.

    When I wrote “I am veteran”, I am truly veteran of Eritrean Liberation Front. If I grieved against TPLF, my grievance would have been VALID! Not Said’s, Hashela’s, Semere Tesfai’s; Nitrick’s and numerous operatives who come and go.

    When I visit this website, it is with love, admiration and respect. Unlike the operatives I do not treat this site as a latrine, waste dumping ground or a royal court for jesters.

    Unlike many, I was fortunate to know in PERSON the who is who of Eritrean revolution and some of the TPLF high officials who I knew during my school years in Addis. So no one can hoodwink me.

    I am fortunate to be educated; have wonderful career and love for books. All these gifts taught me to Love Truth and to stand for Justice.

    I never visited Eritrea even to bury my Mother who lost many of her children in meda Ertra. Some say ” he must have done something”. But what did the little girl Chiham did to be imprisoned?

    Those who are antsy about housekeeping in this site, my questions will be: what benefit do we get from paid/unpaid operatives who come to this site to disturb and defile? I never learnt anything from their top dog Semere Tesfay. As for Hashella, a third class operative, I detest even his choice of name. Tell me what you learned from Abi the court jester? From Nitrick?

    Learning and teaching go hand in hand. I learned a lot from Beyan and that is why I am upset now about his “temporary” fiasco or disillusion. I don’t spare words criticizing those who I deeply respect and love.

    So operatives will always be operatives paid or unpaid. But I need the sanity of the true Awate citizens. Without them Eritrea will be a Void: a playing field of mobsters, rappists, human traffickers and genocidal killers.

    Please: Let us leave TPLF to the good people of Tigray.

    We Eritreans have an Evil tyrant in our midst: a killing machine that spared no one. This machine was designed to kill the body; muzzle the tongue; blind the eye; deafen the ear; cloud the mind; shackle the leg; break the spirit and darken the soul.

    By itself? No.

    The operatives that defile this website are its tentacles. They are the Weed, the shaff. To preserve the Garden you love, you have no choice but to uproot them.

    A good example is the ERITREAN DIGEST by our own Sal Yonus.

    Geac

    • Hashela

      Selam Woldu Hadgu

      Thank you for letting us know that you are from the Dinosaur Era. In other words, its bipedalism notwithstanding, a Cretaceous reptile
      unable to evolve into a mammal who can see beyond the blood soaked swamps
      in which the former is aimlessly wading.

      • woldu hadgu

        Dear Hashela:

        I was foolishly expecting you to call me “aya” like what the Tigreyan youth are calling their leaders:”ayatatna”. You really deflated me by calling me a dinosaur. Are they really extinct or as the evolutionist say they were transformed (evolved) into birds? Any idea?

  • Aron

    Hello Abi and all other TDF haters,
    I know where Debretsion, the Getachews and the rest of them are. I was trying to claim that ten million if you guys could use the tip and if the offer still stands. Aron.

    • Abi

      Hello Aron the Agazi
      Almost missed you.
      I saw Getachew on the red carpet today. He was on the news greeted by his people.
      The offer still stands. We will gladly trade DebreTsion with a healthy chicken.

      We already know where Getachew is sleeping tonight:)

      • Aron

        Hi Abi,
        “He was on the news greeted by his people.” That is right. Some people keep saying Tigray and Woyane are different. Oh well. Aron

        • Abi

          Aron
          As I said earlier, I was ignorant and absolute dumb for believing that Tplf and Tigray people were different. አርባ ጅራፍ ይገባኛል!!
          Now I know that Weyane and Tigray are one and the same!!
          I need to apologize to Ambassador Samiti ,His Fantiness , Tegadalay Kifle, … for not trusting them in this situation.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I think it’s a big mistake to say and associate the people of Tigray and TPLF are one and the same. The TPLF may enjoy widespread support but that does not mean they are the same, specially for any thing of the similar thought that come from the government.

            The Derg use to say, in order to kill the fish, you have to drain the swamp and they went in the rampage of arresting and abusing people where the whole country rebelled against them.

            The Abiy government should do an assessment and they have to know what went wrong in this whole saga from their stand point.

            You should not be surprised why the Tigray people stood with TPLF when they were bombed like no tomorrow. When NATO bombed Serbia, every Serb stood with their government (Milisovich one of the worst dictator). When things settled the same people (the Serb) got rid of him using popular uprising.

            Ethiopia needs all it can to help the people to have normal life as possible and let the TDF be responsible for the day to day life. I think that will be of great challenge in itself.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            You missed my የሞት ሽረት ትግል against the weyane representatives and their Eritrean ጋሻ ጃግሬዎች::
            My argument was that weyane and Tigray were different entities.
            I got punched left, right and center. I managed to stay in the fight until round 11. Final round I got knocked out and ended up in the comma.
            When I regained my conscious, TDF has assumed power and Tigray is already a new kingdom. No going back.
            I should have listened to the people who were better informed about the situation.
            Stupid me!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Give it time. I think the Tigray people should decide their faith and their future. I live in a country where one province is almost split in half (half wants to go the other half wants to stay) but 150 years later, where political bickering still goes on but still together.

            I don’t there is anything good can comes from PFDJ or their people but General Sibhat Efrem said this in interview “ክትበአስ ከለኻስ ብሓደ ኢድካ ጥራሕ ተጠቀም: እቲ ሓድ ግደፎ መታን መታዓረቂ ክኾነካ::”

            Roughly translated “When you fight with someone (as in boxing I can imagine:) use only one hand. Leave your second hand because you need it to shake hands when you make peace”.

            He was describing the fight PFDJ/ TPLF had. He said TPLF fought us with two hands and now there us yes chance If making piece and some day they will pay for it.

            He says this way before the currency conflict.

            To some degree I agree… all the sanctions, all the alienating from IGAD, AU and terrorism etc made impossible to make peace even there was some opportunity… not saying PFDJ was on the right ….

            So at least from Ethiopian people / government point of view, I hope they do the right thing (if at all possible after what happened) but leave it for time..,

          • Abi

            Berhe
            What PMAA doing is exactly as you prescribed.ነትግራይ ህዝብ የጥሞና ጊዜ ሰጥተናል:: I disagree with him on this.
            “ሲመችሽ ወደሱ ሲቸግር ወደኔ” የሚል ጊዜ ያለፈበት የገሪባ ዘፈን መቆም አለበት::
            The people are not choosing between weyane and the federal government. The people are weyane and weyane is the people. Weyane choose weyane, the people choose weyane. What is not clear for you? You sound like the old and stupid Ras Abi.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            We went through the same experience back in 1998-2000, Timali shaebia, lomi shaebia, TsibaH shaebia. Yesterday Shaebia, today shaebia and tomorrow shaebia phase ourselves.

            As time goes by we can’t say the same anymore.

            In any case, with all this Weyane this, weyane that, I think the most vocal supporters of separation are Eritreans.

            I have not heard any TDF official or any of the bona fida Tigaru (Fanti, T. Kiflu, Samiti) unless I am mistaken used the word “separation” yet.

            Even the ተጠባባቂ minister according to you 🙂 have not used those words as yet.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            If you knew me during 99-00.
            ግፋ በለው!! ባድሜ ኬኛ!! ( never heard of it before) . አሳደህ በለው ያንን ሻዕብያ…
            I warned Samiti not to fall in the traps of ተጠባባቂ ትግራዋዮች when promoting the interest of his people.
            I was fool or full of stupid ideas. I think I was both.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Berhe Y,

            “I think the most vocal supporters of separation are Eritreans”

            Good catch, Berhe.

            I have been waiting for someone to notice this for a very long time! Mehari Yohannes being the exception, I have never met any Tigraway who consider independence before.

            Some Ethiopian and Eritrean elites seem to go out of their way to make Tigraway less Ethiopian by attaching “secession” to justify some form of political attack which almost always follows.

            Before this war that is going on now, every time I hear “Tigray secession” it was from non-Tigraway. Even at this trying time, Tegaru seem to be waiting until they calm down before making such an important decision one way or another.

            I believe that TPLF will try hard to keep Ethiopia intact, but some Ethiopian politicians’ greed, stupidity, and irresponsibility may make it difficult to do so.

          • iSem

            Hi FG:
            No I never heard any Eritrea telling Tigrayans to separate, but I heard them say that it will be hard to make the case against separation with a country that conspired with foreigners to destroy you. No one can be sure about the future but one thing sure: MY will not an anomaly after Tigray is liberated and the attention focuses inwards. MY backs his ideas scholarly: how an empire devours its creators he is repeats saying.
            First, it is not our place as Eri to tell what Tegaru should do, they can enjoy their Stockholm syndrome, but many Eri including me said that given what they went through and how TDF’s spinning the war as anti Tegaru identity, it will be hard to make a case to stay with Ethioia. It was the same with Kosovo, with South Sudan, and with the rebellion in Dar Fur. TPLF did enshrine 39 for nothing, it was a logic bomb
            The statement you concurred with BY is misleading, actually it is PFDJ/EPLF supports who brag about how they educated TPLF to fight for Ethiopia and not separate, while TPLF’s separation notion was a footnote

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat iSem,

            “actually it is PFDJ/EPLF supports who brag about how they educated TPLF to fight for Ethiopia and not separate”

            This claim is false in the extreme. I have heard this and similar claims before and god knows where they get hatched but it is never at TPLF camp. If that was the case TPLF would have no reason to eliminate TLF.

            In the case of those who genuinely thought TPLF was pro independence what is most likely is that they assumed TPLF’s struggle meant independence by default because their only frame of reference is Eritrean revolutions.

            By the same token, some Ethiopian elites also assumed that since EPLF and TPLF were cooperating and their slogans seemed similar, to make matters worse, OLF was openly advocating independence, they suspected TPLF to also be struggling for independence.

            All this would have been understandable if it wasn’t persisting even after it was reasonably clear that was not what TPLF was fighting for. Why do you think it is always frequented by those who are anti TPLF?

          • iSem

            Hi FG:
            I bring that up to highlight that it is EPLF/PFDJ supporters that brag about educating TPLF about fighting for Ethiopia. And the reason is because they EPLF/PFDJ supporters think that Eri started ghedli before TIgray and that we are memahran, but it was Tigrayans who first started ghedli. So I bring that up to destroy the notion that Eritreans as in justice seekers like myself are who are saying Tigray separation and not authentic Tegaru like you. That is false. What I and others said was given what happened in the last 8 months, the ideas of M.Yohannes will not be fringe and when you guys get to that point as people and you vote for it, I believe that separation will win and if I was from Tigray I will vote for independence. Now tell me how is that translated to telling tegaru they should separate. And social media tells me that Tegaru are mad, and rightly so and it is not TPLF’s fault. They failed in putting their ducks in a row and for not anticipating that AAA will conspire with IA to attack them, They failure is in leadership not in working against the interest of Tigray

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam ISem,

            Point taken. For what it is worth, I was not thinking about any person in particular, least of all you, during my reply to Berhe. I don’t even remember you mentioning it except very recently in relation to the current war during which it has become a valid subject.

            It so happens I grew up arguing about it with big and small especially with EPRP friends for most of the first half of TPLF’s armed life, and the subject always came up in the process of trying to justify why TPLF must be opposed.

            Lately, it became PFDJ’s favorite as one more weapon to divide Ethiopians in general and isolate Tigray in particular. I hope you can now see where I was coming from.

          • iSem

            Hi FG song
            I did not think you did think about me too 🙂
            But seriously, I was correcting the fallacy. Let me leave you with this song by my teenage friend Helen Melles during the border war
            tarik kdegmelak warsay
            temeharo eyom nerom ksab shiwa
            qaata aytseryun ksab shire
            That is a put down, a lie. intellectually dishonest. And the author was Isais Tsegai RIP

            am I sounding like Tigryan? if I am, it is because I am not, please do not ask me the to explain the illogic of this LOL

          • iSem

            Hi Abiy and BY
            I agree with you. And the reason TDF/TPLF won was precisely because of that. There are people who differ politically with TPLF like those who wan secession, but this was not popular. Now it is different story. I think if ref was held today, they will vote to separate. There are Amharized Tegaru, who like to stay with Mama Ethiopia.
            I predict the following:
            The Tigrigna of Tigrayans will change: you will not hear ” knagare ayfilgin eye.. .” Now they will speak their true, untainted Tigringa and purge Amharic from their lexicon. I think doing so is not smart, because the Amharas are their neighbors even if they separate, so it is till smart idea to have good relationships and heal the wounds
            BY: So your poll of polls (that it Tkifle, FG and Sami) is an indication of the pulse of Tigrayans now?

          • Abi

            iSem
            The informal tabulation of the data shows that 100% of the Tigray/ weyane representatives confirmed that weyane and the Tigray people are one and the same.
            As the most respected, the most informed and the most Saints of the Awate contributors, I relay on their opinion on matters regarding Tigray.
            Now, Tigreans can choose any language they choose to communicate among themselves.
            Peaceful existence is proffered .
            መጀመሪያ ግን ሂሳባችንን እናወራርዳለን::

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            I never said I run the polls of polls but if it’s considered a poll defiantly than your poll of polls of polls, which is iSem and A and H initial.

          • leGacY

            Dearest Abi,
            Other than your inane contempt for the Tigray people there is something else that can be said about your sentiment i.e how did the might TPLF fell from grace so quickly and there lies the answer. First most people always differentiated between Tigrawot and TPLF but then Amhara elites started to preach how there is no distinction btn tigrawot and TPLF which meant that Tigrawot became a direct target for assault by Amharas including economic boycotts and evictions.
            TPLF leaders failed to see this threat and continued to dilly dally . TPLF elites and their circles at the end of the day are to be blamed for the current quagmire . They slept on the wheel while these dark undercurrents were brewing in the country. In stead, they run to Mekelle and decided sulk. There are videos showing , Debretsion ,the dullest politician ever to grace the politics of Ethiopia, cracking jokes in Awassa about Abi in his presence just few months prior to the war.

            So, what is the lesson learnt here? The lesson is that we must redefine what is considered a threat to us ie. The threat is Amhara. We know it is not every Amhara that participated in this futile exercise to snuff out our people but they have to prove their innocence.

          • Abi

            legGacy
            You know me well arguing that Tplf doesn’t represent Tigray people. I debated with almost all tigreans and pro tigreans in this forum and among friends. I left the war zone with my tail between my legs. I got kicked from different directions.
            The lesson learnt here is to stay in our borders and leave Tigray alone.
            If TDF wishes to ሂሳብ ማወራረድ we are more than ready to defend and protect our people from the invading TDF.
            “አትለውም ወይ ማጅር ግንዱን
            አንተን ምን ቸገረህ እሱን ካላመመው”
            ( ቤት ሰበር ግጥም ይባላል)

          • leGacY

            Abi,
            That’s a:) a defeatists position .If you believe in your “emma Ethiopia “ lualawinet lullaby,after all that’s what you been preaching on for eons, then you should be prepared to die for it. You don’t retreat on the first account of humiliation.b:) doesn’t work that way. To the victor goes the spoils as the adage goes,Our forces have prevailed and will be the ones who will be dictating the content and terms of postwar settlements. For instance, any Amhara force must never ever be allowed to threaten Tigray again. The loots must be returned to our citizens . Those who committed crimes must be brought to justice . The center of gravity must be dispersed from Addis.It should also be in our mission to help other minorities to free themselves from Amhara grip. After that, if you still feel that you don’t want to see the color of our eye, you are free to do so . In the meantime , sit tight and watch how the pros do it. Have a Mirinda! What is in that drink BTW?!

          • Peace ToAll

            Selam LeGacY,
            This time, they will be handled by no body else but by the mighty Kush: Oromo Nation. The Kimantes, the Agaws, & the Benishanguls will restore their historical land. In the meantime, the Ankoberites will be resized to the pre expansion territory.

          • Abi

            leGacy
            As per your order, I’m sitting tight and watching the drama unfold in Tigray. My neighborly advice to you is , please do not attempt to cross the Tekeze River. You might find it impossible to cross it back.

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    Ethiopia goes back to its vicious history or kidnapping reminiscent of Red Terror.
    News that Getachew Redas sister was kidnapped from Addis

    • Tkiros

      Hello Isem,
      How do you know if she was kidnapped? Maybe the government wants to talk to her. Don’t forget Getachew is designated as Terrorist. It is a good move and it makes sense. I don’t know about the Derg comparison. First it is early and we don’t exactly what has happened… Stop the rumor mongering.

      • iSem

        Hi Tkiros:
        There is news, I said news.
        Listen, you are right it is early, but why are you towing the Abiy’s line that TDF is terrorist. I think Ethio is the terrorist now, along with the other accomplishe terroist EDF under IA’s command

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          iSem,
          03, at its worst! You need to have a poor’s man detector 🙂

        • Tkiros

          Ihamester,
          I am just telling you what Ethiopia designates the TPLF as… they attacked the Northern Command and ever since they have been designated as terrorist and hunted down and killed. Some of course are a live…
          I wouldn’t call them a terrorist organization but a rebel yeah. Anyway, you don’t have enough information to say this is like Derg. You are jumping to conclusion. I have great respect for Dr. Abiy. He used to be an intelligence officer and he knows what he is doing. I believe all TPLF and family members should be under greater scrutiny. It is natural police work.

          • iSem

            Hi TKiros:
            why you addressing me as Ihamester. Explain that or you are dyslexic

    • Abi

      iSem
      Great Reporting!!
      Now, በነካ እጅህ tell us about the killings of Eritreans by the terrorist TDF in Tigray.
      I don’t see any Eritrean awatista mentioning the on going situation regarding the Eritrean refugees in Tigray.

      • iSem

        Abi
        Yes, unlike you, I have relatives in the camps. So I called mai ayni many people are hospitalized. Eritreans by Tigrayans
        So now what is your point?

        • Abi

          iSem
          My point is that when it comes to the suffering of Eritreans your silence is deafening!!!!
          Why is everybody quiet here??
          Do you get my point?
          ከበላይ አካል መመሪያ እስኪመጣ እየጠበቃችሁ ነው?

          • Tkiros

            Abi, I still have question why are 100K Eritrean in Tigray refugee camp instead of their home? Who chooses to live in Refugee instead of their home? If they are mistreated by TPLF, I think the fault is with Issias and his club.

          • Abi

            Hello TKiros
            Definitely Isu is at fault. There is no question about it.
            The question is the Eritrean and Tigreans ጀጋኑ in this website are unbelievably quiet when the TDF is on a killing rampage throughout Tigray.
            What do you make out of this indifference?

          • Tkiros

            abi, big difference. The Eritrean government invaded Tigray. I still don’t know the reason. Why not secure you border and watch the Ethiopian butcher each other. Why get involved? An invading army will be perceived differently this is human psychology.

            I am not supporter of TPLF. I refuse to call it TDF. I wouldn’t be surprised that they would mis-treat Eritrean refugee. However, the more important question to ask yourself is why does an Eritrean prefer to be in hell-hole Tigray camp instead of his home in Eritrea? Remember there are one million Eritrean refugee in Sudan. That means about 25% of Eritrean prefer to be in Refugee camps instead of their home country Eritrea.

            There is no country on Earth that has this kind of numbers. When you think about this as unfortunate as it is the mistreatment of Eritrean refugee in Tigray… we have to look at the bigger problem.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Tkiros. The TPLF illegally occupied Eritrean land for 2 decades and then last launched a missile attack on Eritrea last November and then you have the gall to say that Eritrea invaded Tigray? Right buddy, everyone and their dog named Pluto believes you when you say that you are not a TPLF supporter.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Tkiros,

            IA said in his interview at the 25 anniversary of Sawa (military service) something like this.

            1) if you say we don’t need to buy tanks and instead we need to buy bulldozer, I am ok with that.
            2) if you tell me we don’t need to buy rockets but we need to buy trackers for our development, I am okay with that.

            But we will not stop Sawa (national service) for any reason. It’s what we will need to grant our freedom, sovereignty etc etc …

            Back your question, the national service (indefinite) has become a way of life in Eritrea. Either you stay there forever and give your life to the army (from his point of view, he doesn’t care, he said I was there for 25 years) what’s the problem.

            Now those refugees are there in Ethiopia because they can be in national service for the rest of their lives.

            Once you leave Eritrea, as far as I know, they don’t care as much to come after you (unless you are someone who they are after). In fact if you cross the boarder to Sudan and you need a passport, they are happy to provide you. They want you to stay loyal to them by keeping you close, as you are now a source of support and source of income.

            Eritrea does not accept deported Eritreans (there were at some point close to 50 refugees in Israel) and they tried everything but they refused. Those refugees were source of income (money they send back home etc)

            In other words, if you are Eritrean you work and serve for free. If you have left, you work and send money to your parents (source of income) which ends up in their hands.

            So the question is: if Eritrea didn’t have national service do you think the regime would still be in power today? I think the answer is no. Two reason:

            1) the youth are shocked and abused in Sawa. The only thing they can think about us how to escape and leave the nightmare behind.

            2) when they do they are no longer a threat.

            So the regime is secure from the threat (young / students).

            Externally:
            If Eritrea didn’t have Sawa by now, it wouldn’t have much military left by now. I think TPLF when they were in power would have help them removed by now.

            So he created perfect layer of protection at every level.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Isu got vindicated now that the Tigray people are readying themselves to ሂሳብ ማወራረድ with Eritrea.

          • Peace ToAll

            Selam Abi,
            If I were you, I would worry about the mighty ODF advancing and circling (in a ring) Finfine to bring justice to all Federalist ethnic groups in the mythical Ethiopia.

          • Abi

            Hello Peace ToAll
            ማን አስገባህ? ይህን አጥር ሾልኮ መግባት ተወኝ አላልኩም?

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            What about the killings and deportations of Amhara by Oromos in Welega. You hardly mentioned a word about them in this website!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            As expected a very weak and rehearsed counter argument.
            Here, I am asking the best and brightest awatista who have been defending Tplf and the Tigray people for the better part of their lives, to kindly tell us why they are not doing the same when it comes to Eritreans.
            Show me a single comment by one of the Awate giants who were actively involved in the distribution of Tplf flyers , remotely criticizing the rampant killings of tigrean and Eritreans in Tigray by the terrorist TDF.

            Brhan, why do you expect me to mention the suffering of Amharas at a website where the greatest and brightest awatista are blaming the Mighty Amhara day and night?
            What is the point?
            Now, as an Eritrean freedom seeker, kindly tell me why you kept quiet about the suffering of Eritreans and Tigreans in the hands of the thugs running Tigray kingdom?

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            I have mentioned about the suffering of Amhara by Oromos several times in this website indicating the source of my info: Ethio 360 YouTube. I encourage you to visit it.They advocate for the Amhara people in particular and other Ethiopians in general. Habtamu and Ermias are great commentators.
            Today is Friday and if you have a proof about suffering of Eritreans in Tigray, please type a link here.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            You don’t sound too bright today.
            360 are using the Amharas to attack PMAA. Just like you have been using the refugees to attack the government only.
            Now, I don’t want to push this issue further since I don’t want to be called ከባለቤቱ በላይ ያወቀ ቡዳ ::

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Where is the link about the suffering of Eritrean refugees in Tigray.
            ተረቲዕና ከይብሉስ ይግባኝ ይብሉ!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            You are the one searching the web looking for news specially when it comes to matters concerning Ethiopia and Ethiopians.
            Now, gather all your expertise and energy and search for news concerning your people.
            You witnessed every rape, every looting, every abuse by the Ethiopians and Eritrean army against the people of Tigray. You counted every captured soldier, you counted every dead soldier, you reported from every liberated area.
            You reported all or most of the above.
            Now, as I said above, I don’t provide any link or information for a person whose information gathering skills are unmatched and nominated for Pulitzer Prize award.
            In other words, FORGET ABOUT IT!!!

          • iSem

            Abi:
            no, all my contributions are about the suffering of Eritreans. Even when I talk about the war in Tigray, it hankers back to Eritrea.

          • Abi

            iSem
            I think I need to pay attention.

  • said

    Selam Amanuel,

    Your statement (I can face you even if you come in a Group address ,you addressed to Beyan Negash ? . Again, as I have said to Said (you included me ), take out the speck from your eyes before you try from other’s eye)
    You commented to my comment that was addressed to Burhan as below and you commented what i said about to me (Do those criticisms include yourself? Otherwise, you are exactly the expression of those criticisms you have mentioned in your comment.)

    And your second comment is always constant and not to long ago you said about ( the forum is divided between the criticizers of the Tigray government/TDF and those who oppose the ethnic cleansing of the allied forces.) I will address this tow issue you raised .

    In your first comment. The simple answer YES What you said about me above apply to me defiantly, since I wrote it and it should apply to me first . I am here to learn .I do not have an attitude of arrogance that you think of me .my political stand displease when I criticize TPLF ,that is quite obvious , I am not here to take your side politically or any one else And if I make mistake, let others make their own judgment, about what ever I have to write about . I have my view and I write about them. Justice is not divided as far I am concerned.

    When one shares a common purpose and commitment to a shared political cause, they do not need to change for pity small staff and one need to continue to find display of compassion and understanding with fellow citizen , no matter what it is the issue , it is not personal issue at hand for me, with toleration and we must be in excellent spirit and solidarity . But never at expenses of fact and truth ,what I wrote apple to me big time, in regard Faith and religiosity s very much at the level of the individual take it or leave it. Freedom of chose
    And many are ‘multidimensional being. And the expressions of religion is right for every one. Many have a thin knowledge and understanding of their religion. ,the right to choose, and a range of other things, is fine with me, some are totally ignorant of the current on going issue and I am one of them ,ready to learn and humbly read to be corrected.
    Recent I wrote Awate Forum in length ; and I said, For decades our region suffered exceptionally, a grim reality. Those who write simply as an expression of fierce resistance to all kinds of tyrannies related to the Horn of Africa do so at the risk of their own peril. But these are beautiful souls who see and feel writing not only as fundamental as the air they breathe, the impetus of which is social justice, but also because they value human life over anything else. They write against dictatorial and dysfunctional governments and against hypocrites, crooked politicians they despise. These kinds of writers have no interest in vilifying anyone, person or group of a population as a locus of evil. The cause for hope runs way too deep in their souls to entertain any alternative ideas other than one that promotes humanity, diversity, peace, and serenity. They worry about far and near. They write about what goes on in their block and write about what goes on around the globe.

    In regard your SCOND comment. ( the forum is divided between the criticizers of the Tigray government/TDF and those who oppose the ethnic cleansing of the allied forces.)

    First you give yourself as referee and arbitrage of any issue at hand ,One have to come you and confess their sin and apologize to you and then you approve them and they are in right path political stand like your self or mirror of you and they have confessed and reconverted ,otherwise they are hypocrite and sellout . Your classification, simplification, judgment and by implication directly or in directly is clear , you are free to name them and be direct .or you might think that I may support the ethnic cleansing of the war monger of the allied forces and you are totally wrong and find me one sentence that I agreed what you said and agreed and celebrated with your ideas .

    I stand against DIA and war monger PMM AA ,what you said is mind boggling and remotely and utterly false . I guess ,If you are not for TPLF political speaking, by implication you are against Tigrayan people. That your assessment and I differ with that stand completely .

    No one with his sound mind and moral stand will accept with ethnic cleansing, I can reference you many of my opinion in this regard I stood firmly with Tigrayan people, from the start and I wrote about it more than you can think I wrote many long opinion about people Tigrayan people are the true victim .I deeply sympathies with Tigrayan people. And brewing famine and atrocities in Tigray is tragedy .

    I have disagreed with your arguments, in a number of issue but never without the gut feeling that I was simply protecting myself against uncomfortable truths. Uncovering these kinds of truths, in fact, is a hallmark of honesty, my interest in finding out “the truth from false narration ” and it is really a way of showing us how unstable truth can be, how it changes from person to person and from time to time .take your pick .I try to conduct myself with humility and honesty the best I can do ,And always more sensitively and I am always for the people regardless . At any one can passe judgment as wish ,I stand to be corrected.
    Question one aske .What gave TPLF the right to rule Ethiopia for 27 years an interrupted without being elected in honest fashion .TPLF did they derive their Powers from the Consent of the Governed Ethiopian. Did TPLF get a Political legitimacy? TPLF did fleshed out and ignored the idea of “consent of the governed” The political legitimacy as determined by the consent of the governed. TPLF in essence, become a military dictatorship devoted to total victory at any cost to rule and it was perceived that way by most Ethiopian.

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ኣንታ ሰይድ:
      ካብቶም ውግእ ትግራይ ምስ ጀመረት ሸታሕታሕ ዝጀመሩ ኳ ሓደ ኴንካ።
      ኣነ ምርዳእ ኣብያትኒ ዘላ: ውሑዳት ሰባት ህግደፍ ገዲፎም ናብ ወያነ ገጾም ከተኩሩ ጀሚሮም። ስለምንታይ? ዝደቀሱ ህግደፋውያን: ዋላ ካልእ ትርጉም? ካብ ገጽና ዝተኸወለና ዶ ‘ሎ ‘ዩ? ‘ንተልዩ ኣብርሁልና።
      ‘ተዘይኴኑ ካብ መስመርኩም ጌጾ ወጺኹም ከምዘለኹም ዘክሩ።
      ቀዳማይ ጸላኢና ዓቢ ዓርጌን: ተቐይሩ ድዩ? ተሓዋዊሱና ዶ ሓቀይ?

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Said,

      First if this comment of yours is in the same thread we commented back and forth, because you are responding to comment, in order our readers to follow the debate.

      Second , I have no problem to air your voice on what you believe, as far as you debated humbly. What I have a problem in your earlier comment for which I asked you, is your blanket accusation and indirect criticism. Now you told me that criticism does include to you also – when you say “YES What you said about me above apply to me defiantly, since I wrote it and it should apply to me first.”

      But the way you said it wasn’t. Let me give you few examples from your comment that does not include you.

      (a) “ They are known for knowing a lot about a little, not for having much broader , integrated knowledge.” notice the word “they”. It is not “we” to include yourself.

      (b) “They can not stand different opinion that contradict them, they become disrespectful, disdainful attitude toward others.” Notice “they” not “we” to include your self

      (c) “ Their main value is to intimidate by making the public assume you know what they ’re talking about subject at hand and now they see themselves elevated from nowhere to near-dictatorial and to control the subject.” Notice “their” not “our” to include yourself.

      You see Said, I know what I am talking and why I asked you the question.

      However, if you want to be said as “they” then direct to the specific guys you want to address your criticisms. Don’t make blanket accusation and indirect criticisms. We want to know to whom it is directed.

      Regards

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ዝማዕበለ ዝመስሎ
    ኣፍሪቃዊ
    ዩናይትድ ተሳዒራ ‘ሉ የእዊ

    ኤረትራዊ ምዕቡል ከምስል
    ኣሎራ! ባቤነ! ክብል
    ይጅምር

    ኣልጀርያዊ ደርቢ ዝወሰኸ ከምስል
    ብፍራንሳ ክዛረብ ይጅምር

    ብባእሲ ገዛእቲ ይሰጉግ
    ኣተሓሳስባ ግን ንድሕሪት
    ቋንቋኦም ክዛረብ ይመርጽ

    መታን ክበሃል ምዕቡል
    ሃገሩ ግን ትድፋእ ንቑልቁል

    ሓሳብን ግብርን ዘይሰማምዑ
    ኣንጻር መግዛእቲ ‘ና ይብሉ
    ብኣፎም
    ብግብሮም ግን
    ምስ ገዛእቶም ክመሳሰሉ
    ይጽዕሩ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat,
    I just want to say happy Friday Jr.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    Abstract

    Should the Eritrean opposition camp change its name from Justice Seekers to Freedom Seekers?

    Due to PFDJ’s rotten system of violence and mismanagement, many Eritreans, regardless of their political stand, are compromised when it comes to justice. The very justice they seek would also go after them. Hence, we would end up in cycles of conflict and mutual mistrust without end.

    Context

    Let me take you back to 2019 around independence day (just before) in Asmara Eritrea. There was a raid into the houses of about 17 individuals to pick up members of a group wanted by the department of national security. The matter involves the release of a video interview with Abune Antonios that was publicized in the opposition media.

    The smuggling of the video was allegedly organized by local individuals coordinating with members of the diaspora opposition. Several of the 17 individuals were later released after interrogation, but three of them that I knew (and possibly more) are now disappeared for good. An iconic Asmara Bar owned by one of them is shut down and his personal belongings (car) was taken away. The iconic bar is not Bar Royal which also shut around that time but for issues to do with sanitation – it is another iconic bar. People who are close with the latest happenings in Asmara are of the view that information on those involved in the video interview and its smuggling it out, was communicated to the NS office by members of the diaspora opposition who were privy of the matter. Some one offered me a kind advice not to be to relaxed in dealing with the diaspora opposition because it is infiltrated. The claim is hard to verify but given the fact that the individuals were picked up without a search supports the hypothesis that there must have been a leaked information to the NS office in Eritrea.

    Recently, I heard an unconfirmed report that the newest child of the daughter of Bitweded, or the latter’s grand child is fathered by the Tekle Manjus’ son. The latter is a wanted criminal in the human trafficking allegations against the GoE by the special rapporteur.

    Many PFDJ officials and supporters can be sighted as an example of paradoxical support to the regime while their loved one or close family member is rotting in jail.

    Discussion

    Clearly, the above few examples can be expanded to include many other issues – even those which implicate the G-15 with history of grave human right crimes pre and post independence. It can even include those who are guarding their jails and torturing them. You get the idea. The Eritrean society is deeply implicated in self inflicted crimes, offenses and cruelty on one another. What kind of justice would one seek to redress all such issues other than blanket forgiveness or blanket condemnation? Reconciliation can be an avenue to painstakingly put together the facts and heal the wounds.

    Even in this very pages, we saw how individuals would crawl out of the woods and question somebody else’ stand on independence, territorial integrity, giving over the country to outsiders…. We may ignore such things as immature but if they were in Eritrea the same individuals, justice seekers, would have you disappeared by falsely implicating you with such charges of treason and sedition. That can cost you your life.

    clearly, there can’t be a common ground for justice seeking for such highly compromised society. For sure, the root of the problem is the rotten system that allowed such an environment to fester and trap so many. There are Eritreans who paid ransom many to kidnappers by making payment in Eritrea. This means the regime has documents on them too. It is a sad reality.

    Conclusion

    We can all have a common ground to seek freedom that can allow for truth and reconciliation and put a closure to such a shameful history. Everyone can be forgiven for assuming that opposing the regime is a uniting factor, reality doesn’t support such a rushed conclusion.

    • iSem

      Hi Haile The Geat. I think we should start spelling out your title as TG can mean Tigray’s Gallants haha

      Yes: Freedom Seekers is an apt name
      The grandchild of freedom seeker is an offspring of child of despot, an organ trafficker. I have a theory, probably they married them to sell the blood as it was done before 🙁
      Your well deserving Tile: The Great was bestowed upon you for your data driven, fact navigated debates and gets better with time. So I call on Sal, the Director of Awate’s Award Department to add the starts LOL.
      It speaks eloquently how we are downtrodden psychotically as society when some of us are accused of opposing independence when we say the obvious and be called renegades for our stand against PFDJ fictional land marks: May 24, June 20

      About the infiltration of the opposition, I would lean to believ it, of course not all. What I also hear is that some of the military wings in Ethiopia used to imprison members who challenge them in unsanitary prisoners. We are in deep problem, even the so called opposition is not far from PFDJ MO

      • haileTG

        Haha iSem…Tigray’s Gallant??? Please, not in this day and age of Migbey:-)

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ አርከይ
          እንደ ምግበ እንዳትበላ ፈራህ እንዴ?
          I don’t blame you.

          • haileTG

            Hey Guad Abi,

            Thankfully, the angry Migbey is said to be heading westwards in Tigray, not northwards…phew I can catch my breath a little 🙂

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            I heard he is already on the other side of the earth.
            Be careful Arkey. He might come through the underground channels.

          • haileTG

            Ere Ante Abi,

            Stop listening to PP propaganda or PPP….drom albejuhm…sewyew S-75 rockets hulu taTqwal… le gonder geberie ngerlign Ebakh 🙂

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            ሮኬት ያልታጠቀ ጎንደሬ የት ይገኛል ብለህ ነው ?
            አይዞን!!! ጎንደሬ ታሞ እንጂ ፈርቶ አይሞትም!!!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi HaileTG,
      Don’t you think freedom is a byproduct of justice? Do you think freedom can be guaranteed in an unjust envaironment?

      • haileTG

        Hey SJ,

        Great follow up! You’re right absolute or constitutionally guaranteed freedom is tied to justice. I had a relative freedom from the current dangerous system so that common sense can come back, criminality reduced and a search for comprehensive charter based freedoms can be enacted. At the moment we are trapped by a web of illegality and seeking justice has become a threat to many 🙂

    • saay7

      Selamat Hailat the G:

      First, this should be presented in the front page as an article. This means if you agree and the publisher agrees then I would have to post my second point in the thread.

      Secondly, I agree with your recommendation (I would call it freedom fighters not freedom seekers) but for an entirely different reason. I fail to see how the scenarios you mentioned (of exiled opposition cooperating with Wedi Kassa to have fellow opposition arrested) can he stopped with a name change. Those who infiltrate “justice seekers” can also infiltrate freedom fighters. What am I missing?

      My reason is this: “justice” is a word that has been expanded to mean everything and nothing. For example, the UN has United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) which is focused on “economic justice” and “social justice”, and it always compliments the PFDJ on both grounds. The justice you and I and everybody focuses on (individual civil liberties) is always relegated to second place (group rights), with group rights defined as social justice and economic justice. Most left-leaning people are sympathetic to social/economic justice as a priority even if individual liberties have to be compromised until (fill in the blank.)

      In contrast, freedom is more explicit and less nuanced than justice.

      Anyway, write your article!

      saay

      • haileTG

        Hey Saay,

        The publisher might have issues with some of the personal details contained (especially the fatherhood thing), but I always give AT the exclusive right to use any of my entries as they see fit – the least I do:-)

        Good point you made on the fact that such name change may not stop the infiltrations. I think it would help to give proper orientation for the struggle, you’re not missing anything here:). Come to think of it, I now recall you might have suggested something similar in the past. The freedom fighters is also much better, it cuts the passivity off this worthy cause.

        In addition to those expansions you gave on justice, if I may share some more that I found interesting, it goes like this:

        Freedom is a possibility, and justice is a consequence. This is an interesting way to look at it, because justice requires the moral knowledge of right and wrong and freedom allows for the integration of the principles of justice into one’s life. Our damaged social fabric has caused many to surrender their freedoms to be shielded from perceived long arm of justice. But, very few of us can escape either direct or indirect infringing on justice. The very act of leaving the country at a time like this may be viewed as unjust, although freedom allows it. There are more deeper issues like I mentioned that would implicate/influence many people due to a failed system that I blame as the root cause.

        Those who have to face justice, have to be treated justly [or they should be treated with freedom to access defense and dignity and privacy]. When people are trapped and their freedom robbed from them, they tend to be bitter and are brazen in attacking the freedom of others. The re-naming would bring the concept of freedom at the forefront. Freedom is inherently imbued in our instinct. And, really, the main driving force for our struggle is our loss of freedom for basic rights, opportunities and due process.

        • saay7

          Selamat Hailat:

          I think every philosopher who has thought on the subject says that pursuit of freedom is inherent to humans. (Even animals, I would say, extending the argument: except caged animals conditioned to be caged and associate danger with being out of the cage.) If craving for freedom is our essence and, as St Augustine says, action follows essence, then actions we take are based on our essence.

          Well, the PFDJ supporters are also human. So why don’t they agree with us? Two reasons in my view: first it’s based on caged animals experience: they associate freedom with danger. Second, they see Eritrea as a human being: it too wants to be free and those of us opposing the government (gov = country = gov) are endangering its freedom.

          saay

          • haileTG

            Selamat saay,

            Very true. That is why you see me in this forum driving the train dangerously down hills, making sure that no matter the amount of zapping, I ain’t gonna forget common sense and my freedom to exercise it. The NNNN are soo caged, however much food you dangle before them in order to lure them to step out, they are stuck to the safety of the cage.

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:
            So why don’t they agree with us? …. first it’s based on caged animals experiment: those who are zapped every time they step out of the cage associate freedom with danger. Second, they see Eritrea as a human being…:
            That is partially truth, but there are those PFDJ supporters who are not caged, who are not zapped. How do we explain these people
            The second part, those who are not caged, who are outside the field of the zapping machine, have the luxury to contemplate, to know that Eritrea is inanimate thing, the in animate country’s freedom cannot be be divorced from the liberty of the residents of this land. Example of these non-caged PFDJ supporters is a professor of journalism, who in his day job tells the whites kids about the amendments, the free speech etc and goes to a Mekhet meeting and tells us that this inanimate Eritrea is in good hands, it is thriving, it is playing in thee meadows like cow (embahh tible alla ) LOL
            So there should be a an additional theory that explains this.
            In South Africa the whites had freedom, but the same whites denied the freedom and dignity to their black fellow human beings. The whites were not to caged, and they were not zapped. on the contrary embah ybllu nerom

          • haileTG

            Hey iSem,

            The zapping is either physical or psychological. Now, is the anyone who doesn’t get one of those other than the owner of the cage??

          • saay7

            Hailat:

            For sure, iSem knows why that caged bird sings:) He does: he is just being a contrarian, as usual.

            saay

          • iSem

            Hi Sal and Haile G
            Sal: that is partially true as well:-)
            But you are forgetting/ignoring/avoid (choose one LOL) the human choice, the personal choice. But the contrarian thing is not by choice:-)

          • saay7

            iSem:

            The South African Whites (or American whites) did not see black people as fully human. In fact the process of denying human beings freedom always has a pre-requisite: see them as less than human.

            saay

    • Dongolo

      Selam haileTG. Before you had indicated that an update on the GiE would soon be forthcoming (hopefully to include how it is being accepted by Yiakl and other major Eritrean opposition movements & actors). Can you kindly provide such an update or is the matter still covert & and classified? How is the GiE’s lack of transparency any different than that of the PFDJ?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dongolo,

        It is a classified matter to PFDJites. It will be unclassified when the GIE will be heading towards the capital city. So have patience till then.

  • said

    Greeting Ismail
    Thank you for you thoughtful article .Past history repeat it self.
    Past and present regime, Ethiopian and Tigrayan could learn from the Book of Matthew in which Jesus calls on his followers to be Models of behavior for the world to follow.
    The example of Ethiopia past history and present is not so much different than when .The pagan Egypt’s Pharaoh Ramesses II who, in the 13th century B.C., fought a battle with the Hittite king Muwatalli II at Kadesh, in what is now modern Syria proper . Ramesses II portrayed the event as an Egyptian victory. But Hittite accounts of the battle, discovered by archaeologists, suggest the battle was a draw. The outcome of the battle depends on who tells the story.
    Ethiopian everyday structure of government that we know , like that in Past Ethiopian backward feudal and bold thirsty regime. there is this kind of leadership complex, and that’s very harmful to its own citizen —it’s totally unelected and undemocratic. How is possible to undo a historical crime performed by Yohannes , Abu-Anja, ,Tedros ,Menelik ,HSLS ,Mengistu ,Meles ,DiA and Abiy , they are all in the same boat that sunk at bottom of the see or lake Tana for that matter. Do they learning from their mistakes .No ,Nada. They are still at it ,war today war tomorrow ,they get prepare for it for the future . What we see today is no different than what Eritrean ancestor faced.

    Today war and violence is same as yesteryear , our people faced and paid the ultimate price, different time different ruler,the same result . But this time a new political instrument is more freely wielded than before. something that has a much broader implication, and people in power are more powerful than ever ,they possess a modern killing machine .Our region rulers they come in variety names They are first against their people in case of Eritrea is obvious and second against their neighboring countries and their people, for no political or material gain or no issue at all, they manufacture one to suite them politically and at the same time protecting themselves against a truth ,the hate and prejudice is always active and prowling .

    If one takes the hate system seriously, as one should, then one realizes that the real problem is that they think it’s normal that people should be held down, simply put ,because the religious belief and system was made by human interpretation . Man made false believe to go to war , it not by God to go kill innocent lives .

    The desire to keep Ethiopian ruling class ruling is true for all the reason of the social formations ,with this feudal benevolence from the top tyrants that always being . in Ethiopian you don’t undo thousands of years of oppression. Of course, you can hammered again and again, the message will not go through ,it doesn’t work; It’s the way it is. Past Ethiopian state will never do anything that will allow them to let it citizen think independently. They can’t think independently because they’ve been denied that by Amhara and Tigrayan Ethiopian ruling class for thousands of years and now of course by the current rulers. the demonization of people domestically is nothing new.
    Eritrean suffered from those two elite Amhara and Tigrayan historically and presently, we are their victim thought out the ages and add to this our DIA. Double whammy. As any Eritrean civilian will tell , many have sad story to tell ,very horrifying story, every one has a family member ,an innocent civilian killed by Ethiopian army .The horrifying story, and that involves Tens of thousands lives, some forgotten .A nation that produced Tens of thousands refugee even during peace time ,they expected ,but that not meant to be since 1991 by design . Anybody who is a refugee in western countries has been through something horrifying or at least terrible in order to escape from Eritrea ,they came with hope and aspiration to start new life, putting the past trauma behind them and get to those sea shores safely is ultimate goal, to a save heaven country. Everyone has lost member of his family during 30 years of war of independence and continuous to do so today. that involves being a refugee today spicily is hard life to face .

    Anybody who is a refugee in west has been through something horrifying or at least terrible in order to escape present regime in Asmara .Eritrean refugees we all know have these stories, and for us it’s completely normal. We don’t want to advertise it ? The 30 years war was horrible —and that’s one of the huge human consequences of a war like that we faced in Eritrea is testament by itself . Eritrean refugees, simply trying to forget about the past experience , tried to get on with their lives, and some suffer all over the emotional damage and trauma that resulted from war still are there.
    We’ve seen the barbaric methodology of Ethiopian forces, what they have done to Eritrean people ,today they are hard at work making Tigray a modern-day terra nullius ,hale in earth. Like a monstrously familiar and death-dealing shape emerging from highland , from top of the mountain fog, the contours of the impending massacre in Tigray are loping, like local Hyena and wolf-like, into broad day view. When the war began last November 2020 , it looked like a dust-up between two brotherly Ethiopian ,the Eth – federals and the now-

    Since 2018 TPLF marginalized and squeezed from central power .And after bloody eight month war , horrible and devastating war in the land Yohannes and Abu-Anja. Now TPLF back in Mekelle, leaving it once again in the hands of the TPLF to rule as before . TPLF, not to long ago they were the masters of the universe which used to run the whole country. And they dominated the coalition government for nearly 27 years . The Tigrayans account for 6 per cent of Ethiopia’s 115m people, just imagine . The TPLF’s leaders are still smarting from the demotion imposed on them by Ahmed’s parliamentary manoeuvrings in 2018. What’s happening now ,war is between two preening warmongers and demagogues. Abiy wants to crush Tigray, while the TPLF leadership, foolishly and not intentionally are sacrificing its innocent population in a crazed tilt ,that one day in the future secession will happen . This option was wide open freely at their option and their choose with great asset and power advantage at hand , during 27 years of domination to declare Tigray as independent state without a war, they would have succeeded to be independent and flourishing new state and now after losing the center power in Addis and Tigray completely destroyed .TPLF may even be heading towards independence as their ultimate goal with so much lost of lives and material .

    • woldu hadgu

      Dear Said:

      If TPLF is a terror to Abiy Ahmed and nightmare to Isaias Afewerki, Viva to TPLF!!!

      • said

        Greetings, Vetran woldu hadgu

        Last time I responded to your comment and you never replied to me . You have every right to believe in TPLF and its leadership of past and present and to be with side of your people and that is expected, like some DIA supporters do the same and count me out .As Tigaryan you have the right to comment as above . And I have every right criticize the wrong doing of TPLF past and present and I criticized the same Abiy wrong doing.
        In the middle of the Cold War or hot war in Vietnam , when Martin Luther King Jr. denounced the U.S. government as “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today,” and criticized U.S. hubris fueling the War, liberal outlets like the New York Times and Washington Post and many other ,furiously condemned King—in essence, telling him to leave foreign policy to the establishment. King criticized the “arrogance” of US , that it has everything to teach others and nothing to learn from them.
        Today we find, that supporters of TPLF ,they have everything to teach others who don’t conform with TPLF . One would hope for some humility and non to be found .And they keep propagandizing the public and their right to lecture us .when one remind them . It’s indefensible that TPLF has imprisoned and killed many of Ethiopian opposition figure .The same goes for former PM MZ ’s terrible mistreatment of Ethiopian ethine group. All you have to do is look at what TPLF did with its power and they abused it . For TPLF it did not mater Legal or not, moral or not, It was consistent with TPLF values and agenda or not, honestly or blatantly dishonest, TPLF did whatever it takes to seize and hold on power for as long as possible and that what mattered most. Even they claimed to be pure Ethiopian .

        Meanwhile we all know what happened to a group of Eritrean veteran fighters during liberation time MENKA when it criticized and give their opinion about IA leadership ,they were mercilessly liquidated and we know what happened after .The rest is a living history we are still enduring.
        If you question why in world on the night of Nov. 3 ,TPLF. forces attacked a federal military base in Tigray and attempted to steal its weapons. The TPLF leaders have has said it struck pre-emptively, as federal forces were prepared to assault Tigray. That is an official declaration of war on Ethiopian army base If that is the case why TPLF allowed the Federal forces and EDF quickly seized Mekelle, and other main towns, and then shamefully TPLF. and its armed supporters fled to rural and mountainous areas near Mekelle, and leave Tigrayan people to the mercy Federal forces,And month after long gorilla ,they are welcomed as heroes, I to save Tigray ,I have no problem with that.
        See the present war in Tigray , and you see the same arrogance supporters of TPLF. They never condemned TPLF for their human rights violation of epic proportions in Ethiopia .And shamefully invading Somalia . During 27 years of TPLF ruling Ethiopia. Ethiopian in Tens of thousands of innocent people were incarcerated and never to heard from them . The people behind bars were Ethiopian ethnic group disproportionately and non were Tigrayans, understandably ? when we get lectured ,It is an affront to notions of justices ,a “democracy” and “human rights. “believers , However—when lecturing others like me —they definitely forget TPLF past crime ?it not right season and not the right time ,even now, when is the right TPLF can’t even address It’s own human right record and let alone solve it .TPLF pundits defend them at any cost , their cherished belief in TPLF is really blind . It seem you can not speak and write out with self-awareness and humility about human rights issue with any one of them . To start with TPLF political agenda was doomed . And first Instead of lecturing me and let’s get TPLF its own house in order. Let’s them lead by example on human rights and let them have clean record .

        TPLF dominated government has generally been on the wrong side of history when it comes to combating illegal wealth .TPLF accumulation of wealth, was stolen and it was ill gotten wealth .And they are known for their corruption in Ethiopia, it was obvious . TPLF leaders had powerful economic and political interests and they controlled for themselves and their minions . Keep “business as usual” TPLF “WE WON THE WAR in 1991.” So it our time in rich ourselves . They give themselves , the right rule as see they it fit for 27 years ,dictatorial ruling in a dysfunctional and corrupt political system. that served very well.

        TPLF had many conflicts with number ethnic communities, it was daily realty .TPLF security forces were involved in extrajudicial executions and other egregious human rights violations, we are old enough to remember and is well recorded and it was in broad day light. It’s human treatment of those who did not conform to TPLF rule, they paid awful price in their mother country, TPLF must have seeing them as outsider ,and treat them like Eritrean citizen of Addis , as eternal enemy .And this isn’t just the ancient past. TPLF, they never had a commitment to rule of law, Zero, . TPLF were at the very top of the governments and never let go and were forced to leave the power by Ethiopian Oromo and Amhara youth .

        I do not back the deceit of the wolves guarding the sheep? Some chose to close their eyes and have double standard to till us today and never ever acknowledge , they are arrogant to that end and it is not in their nature to admit ,admission is see as weaknessn .

        TPLF knew very well the war was coming in door step and they lunched the war first shot and were they well prepared for war .It seems some how even their top leaders were alive ,were they were prepared or unprepared and more importantly did they prepare Tigrayan way in advance, or just let people face catastrophe in their own , that would be a colossal understatement. One indication of just how unprepared they were when war started ,It was a tragedy In the realty and foolish , we all know this to be true. But the facts on the ground can be disconcerting. And those facts have never been clearer, after eight month of war that visited Tigray, sadly Tigrayan people paid the price .

        • Halaf Mengedi

          Selam Said,

          … . TPLF, they never had a commitment to rule of law, Zero …

          Right. Nothing happens in a vacuum in life. Regardless how evil plans PIA and PMAA had/have, Woyane share a minimum 50-80% of the blame (considering the role they played in the past 27-30 years). For the most part, they were in a position to do the right thing and bootstrap the region into prosperity/enduring peace. Power abuse, corruption, greed, ignorance, arrogance, and miss management brought this horrible stupid war into existence. Now the region and specially Tigray is harvesting a terrible dividend. It is crystal clear and it is very hard to over-look this fact.

          Is TDF a complete different/lessons learned org than Woyane? Or it is Woyane in brand new cloth? I don’t know. Time will tell.

          Halaf Mengedi

    • T. Kifle

      Hi said,

      ”ከባለቤቱ ያወቀ ቡዳ ነው” የሚለውን ተመልከት

    • Peace!

      Hi Said

      TPLF is a cancer to our region and a liability to the entire continent. look it can’t even survive without being a stooge for the imperialist powers.

      Peace!

  • woldu hadgu

    Selam Deki Awate:

    Awate.com that I know is “changing” course and this saddens me. If we think Awate.com is too big to fail watch out! Lehman Brothers; Kodak; Sears; Time magazine; Newsweek; Asmarino.com; Meskerem. net…failed. They failed because they forgot what made them successful.

    I always equated Awate.com to New York Times but alas I am losing hope. When you neglect to uproot weeds, your beautiful and fruitful garden suffers. It is erroneous thinking to give largesse to termites whose sole purpose is to decay and destroy.

    Awate.com is a power house and heritage to intellectual thinkers. Its articles are first class. The contributors are intellectual giants. But day in day out the termites who are given access to respond in the discussion forum distort the writer’s intent message and they leave heaps of confusion and distortion. Many writers and visitors left dismayed never to come back to Aware.com. It is a joke to neglect your housekeeping duties.

    It is not “kindness” to let operatives, jockers, court jesters and goons run amok in your house. It is negligence of due diligence thus a crime.

    If Awate.com fails, Eritrea will fail. Take my word! And this will be a monumental failure not only to the Awate.com founders, who I believe are our pride and heritage but to all Eritreans who are made walking dead by the the system of tyrany.

    Some will challenge my assertion and will ask me for details. My answer for them will be go and read every response to an article and watch the distortions and destructions left behind by the operatives. If you cannot see it then what can I say? Once upon a time Meskerem was a great site, so was Asmarino.

    It is time to discern; time to evaluate and time to uproot the weeds.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Kibur woldu hadgu,

      Although your warning and suggestions are valid and there has been many concerned others with similar suggestions before, I will share a thought lest we assume it is all up to them to do so.

      In spite of the time consuming nature of monitoring a forum this size, the most difficult aspect of it is the dilemma inherent in trying to decide whether an action taken will be perceived as house cleaning, as you put it, biased, discrimination, anti-free speech, and even dictatorship. No doubt the first complaint would be “they don’t entertain opposing ideas” among other accusations.

      For this and similar reasons they have clearly defined posting guideline. Their tolerance for repeated violations of these guidelines is well known.

      So, god forbid, if this forum ever fails in the future, we, the participants, would have to take the bigger portion of responsibility for it. As far as Awate.com is concerned, they have provided well fed horse, they have pointed the direction, and they have even put up the saddle to boost! The least we can do is to take the ride with some decency.

      Let’s think about how we may all help clean it.

    • Tkiros

      W.
      What are you talking about? Can you give an example? What is the weed you are talking about?

  • kokhob selamone2

    Dear Brother BN,

    Bellow the important question I asked you and get the reply of yours,

    Dear Beyan Negash,,

    I read it once,, I normally read 3 times. It seems to me that we are going toward a failed project which is full of revenge very wrong history. That ELF and EPLF are already history. None of them are in reality. For me it is already over and that will not come back..And be sure the crime of EPLF is even gone to Ethiopia and burned everything..

    TPLF was already with EPLF in their high days 1980 and has destroyed ELF the same of as current days exactly the same is going on with those groups in Ethiopia. Where are those EPLF great fighters Almost all are dead killed by their master and burning in containers. But few are present in their old days.

    Now, I don’t want to demoralize. and on this Say7 project but just a talk ” Hlemi Derho ” as once said it and just go and read my poem.

    I don’t see the political solution will bring peace in horn in general and in Eritrea in particular. Depending our history is not to help us. It is a fresh spiritual journey that will be a root solution and that will be the only solution- One love is the way out. Just watch carefully and listen to you own heart. I said it before in Jebena and I will also repeat it now and in the future – to be united is our job for every negative actions.

    I noted the picture on the article is a complete talk on saying that if the is broken from outside, life ends. From inside out, life continuous..is that? I don’t know for real I am confused now. What does mean? What about the the olive? Explain please..

    Thank you and Best Regards,

    KS,,

    Bayan Negash Kokhob Selam • 3 months ago
    Selam KS,
    How wonderful to hear from you. There is no such thing as Hilmi derma in Eritreans when it comes fighting. I am going to elaborate on some of the ideas that are discouraging you. Allow me to collect my thoughts or I may address the issues that you raise here as I respond to many others. I am barely now starting from the beginning to read and reply. I truly appreciate you, KS.

    stay tuned, please

    kokhob selamone2 Bayan Negash • 2 months ago
    Dear brother Beyan Negash,

    I am still waiting to read your reply.

    Best Regards,

    KS,,

    • Bayan Negash

      Thank you, KS2 for digging it out for me. I see that I have responded with a promise of a follow up that I never did. I just want to acknowledge, this time I shall come back to you with an answer that’s now two months old. Better late than never.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Ustaz Ismael Ibraheem Al-Mukhtar,

    Thank you for this timeless and powerful lesson. We are indeed in the same boat travelling to reach the same destination. Why time and again we fail to recognize this simple truth is mind boggling.

    One of our fellow participants, Mr. Kim Hanna, once said “those who should be here are there and those who should be there are here” in reference to some great personalities of this forum vs. those that are running, I should say ruining, our countries. Unfortunately, that statement has been true then and it is true now.

    I am not sure if paradigm shift necessarily needs a revolution to ignite, but regardless, each one of us can always start with the self by making extra effort to add and be part of positive energy around us.

    Thanks again.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Moderator,

    Why is my acceptance to his apology as a closure to our issue is deleted?

    Regard

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Shalom
    Awates,

    I like to convey this message to all.

    No matter what course Eritreans take next,
    Eritrea has been recorded on the world history
    books as the third country who defeated a super-
    power besides Vietnam and Cuba .
    1. Vietnam
    2. Cuba
    3. Eritrea

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas

    I have considered Professor Amanuel Hidrat and Dr. Beyan Negash as Eritrean justice seekers. The only ones who will enjoy seeing their discussions in this forum will be the PF(DJ)s and their sympathizers even here at awate.

    The regime is tirelessly working in distracting Eritreans nowdays. It is now under scrutiny that it has never seen from the international community. Thanks to the international community represented by the UN, it knows not only the regime’s evil rules but also satanic deceptions. A deception to run from accountability.

    I hope the two great writers return to their significant role in leading the discussion of our main topics. Currently, as I see it, it is about the accountability of the regime. I want to remind them እቲ ድሩዕ ዝበሎ፡ ንተሓሳስብ.

    This my humble say to my brothers Amanuel and Beyan.

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Brhan,
      Kbret yihabellay. Your suggestion consider it heeded on my end.

      • kokhob selamone2

        Dear Brother Beyan,

        I was thinking much advanced person that can see all sides to remove differences, but you disappoint me when those few days, I ask you few questions in past I did not get any reply from you regarding the internal struggle which I thought. You will come with proper reply to me and which site is for a reason of coming to narrow differences. Now, again you came with the most respected man on our site the great fighter of my time.

        What is your problem brother? Those differences are will go more wider and be useful to our common enemies.

        KS,,

        • Bayan Negash

          Selam KS2,
          I don’t know what question you are referring to. Did it occur to you that I don’t read all of the comments. I sometimes go weeks on end without reading any articles at awate or comments in the forum. I have no recollection what you asked. Obviously, I didn’t read it. If it is still relevant, please by all means, ask it now.

          As far as between me and Amanuel, you maybe a little behind on the readings yourself. It’s been resolved already. You may wanna go under said’s entry read the exchanges. I sure do not wanna open another can of worm here.

        • sara

          dear kokob…
          i think you good wishes are appreciated by both seniors in this forum…lets not bring it back…case closed.

          • kokhob selamone2

            Ok sister Sara,

            Nice and fine. I think it is my question not answered by Dr. BN and I will open again my case to him. Respected sister Sara, I will respect you even more and come back, for my case with him.

            KS,,

      • Tkiros

        Beyan,
        Are you really a PhD? are you qualified to be called a Dr.? Dr. Abiy is real PhD.

        • Abi

          Hello TKiros
          Welcome to Awatenation.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Berhan,

      I don’t go after people unless they go after me. Beyan resorted to blackmail and denigrate my name, something I only expect from the PFDJ political house. For an individual who claims that he is from justice seekers camp don’t expect him to make his fight against me unless he become a convert. Remember his strategy is to put me in a “rabbit hole” – that his word. Ahh! Hussur Yeh-sereka Yblu Abow!

      Thank you Brhan. If he restrained from denigrating people and act like a gentleman, I will reciprocate it. But fore sure I will not let myself to be abused. Thank you for your call to regain our cool mind.

      Regard

    • said

      Selam Berhan,
      In politics ,any one opinion can you get you an answers from a dozen points of view, and thinking critically about their meaning can vary , some make themselves an expert of political topics and tell us what and how we should think about a given topic. They are known for knowing a lot about a little, not for having much broader , integrated knowledge. Some People understandably look to them to make political and opinions decisions for them. They can not stand different opinion that contradict them, they become disrespectful, disdainful attitude toward others . That’s foolish. They’re often a camouflage for mediocrity and their hidden agenda , they did not try to support their many accusations with facts. Their main value is to intimidate by making the public assume you know what they ’re talking about subject at hand and now they see themselves elevated from nowhere to near-dictatorial and to control the subject. And this has potentially reputation-destroying smearing some one with good name. and have become extremely commonplace. That means people will say ,I have no idea what you mean. And they will canter You’re not saying that , are you? “Everything about what you say contradicts what you’re suggesting. They are infringing rights to equal treatment or free speech. Truth and politics are often mutually exclusive concepts when dealing with them ,they are stubborn, especially for progressives Eritrean who primarily focus on notions of human rights and democratic values. For some Eritrean, TPLF is a touchy subject or hot-button issues surrounding MZ , even when you sympathies with Tigrayan people at large and you are against Abiy war in Tigray

      Political philosophers are in short supply today, so, some people listen to celebrities and we have feew of them . They assume that famous people must know something they don’t. That’s largely because critical thinking has vanished from our society,

      They express what was inexpressible ,There are things said and many unsaid, of things done and not done, just live let live, politics and opinion can vary and they aren’t in the Bible, those seven deadly sins are Pride, Greed, Wrath, Envy, Lust, Gluttony, and Sloth. We have been very good about practicing what we preach. the big one to me. Thou Shalt Not Kill.” It is mentioned in the Ten Commandments, Can we be forgiven and redeemed?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Said,

        Do those criticisms include yourself? Otherwise, you are exactly the expression of those criticisms you have mentioned in your comment. Take out the speck from your eyes before you try from other’s eye. To reflect about yourself before you reflect about others, is a good start.

        Regards

      • Bayan Negash

        Thank you, said! As usual, you get to the heart of the matter in precise ways. I’m sure I have missed a whole lot of gem ideas that you share with your readers in this forum. Your said the following about our political discourse: ” some make themselves an expert of political topics and tell us what and how we should think about a given topic. They are known for knowing a lot about a little, not for having much broader , integrated knowledge.”

        Well, frankly, and then there are those who resort to ጥሕን ዉዒለን በዓለ ማርያም approach in politics. Add to that playing a victim card in politics like what we have seen TPLF who perfected this political game when it was TPLF that put the people of Tigray in an unimaginable peril to begin with. Instead of blaming the TPLF equally, they go on a rampage about the other political actors in defense of the TPLF as though it was the angel that had no hands in the hell-fire that ensued.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Beyan,

          I can face you even if you come in a group. Again, as I have said to Said, take out the speck from your eyes before you try from other’s eye. Hypocrite have no shame to go awry! Keep going I will load my guns, for we know each other for decades.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam AH,

            You may wanna try the same prescription that you are generously attributing on others. You’re my elder, there are so many colorful languages I could’ve used, but my parents taught me to respect my elders. So, I will respect you kem ኣያ and wouldn’t reciprocate in kind and call you names.

            Have a nice day!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            Then how did they miss it to teach you not to run after your brother to put it in a rabbit hole? You can not even regret, Beyan. Do not tell me mischievous words, please! Or you just recall it what your parents taught you how to respect your elders. Yegernal!

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Amanuel,
            If “the rabbit hole” comment was offensive, my sincere apologies. I mean it, kem aya, again.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            I will take it if it is sincere. I hope you will stop your ashmur from now onward.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Aman,
            what does “ashmur” mean?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            Indirect criticisms that has no sincerity at all – like what Said has done in his comment. I like direct criticisms wether that criticism is valid or not. I can deal with it sincerely.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Aman,

            Thanks for the explanation. All I can say to that is እሺ ሕራይ ኣያ ኣማኑኤል::

            ነኡስ ሓውካ
            Beyan

          • sara

            amna amanel…. please please,, we your young comp…let it be stopped here.

          • sara

            selam selam—–I will respect you kem ayay and wouldn’t call you names.— the best quote i read today.
            thank you.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam sara,

            Welcome back our queen in disguise!
            The last time you posted was to let us know that you were headed back home, if I am not mistaken, and I thought about you frequently since.

            Your calm demeanor and always wise advices are highly missed.

          • sara

            selam ato fanti…
            well..well/// you are right i had a long break back home… but that is for another day….good to se you here and i hope you are still the same good /respected person we all know in this forum.

          • Abi

            Sariti shikorina
            Glad to see you back after a very long vacation.

          • sara

            selam ato abi, thank you for the well come… how is our elder sis..and the kids, pls pass my regards.

          • Abi

            Sariti shikorina
            Everyone in the family is doing fine.
            Please stay with us. We can’t afford missing you.

          • iSem

            Hi Sara:
            I also follow up, in this rare moment as I do not follow him and say
            WECOMBACK!
            I have a new name for Abi: Abiyot and it means in Tigrina, eneku when your name is called 🙂

            About BNB and AH, I am saddened that their discussion has deteriorated. Two of awate’s greatest writers. Unfortunate, but the time we are in is so tense, we all need to be measured. there is difference between intense, heated debate and deterioration

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            When you started calling Abi Abiyot, I got a little confused. Now I know what you are saying I think a little correction is in order.

            Abi longer name is Abinet.

            Abiyot is not the same as Abiyet. Abiyet is what we say, when called up on.

            Abiyot meabs in Amharic – Revolution.

            Bonus: Abiy as in Dr. Abiy long form name is Abiyot. His father called him Abiyot to honor Derg Abiyot (Revolution) which is shorted for Abiy.

            You are welcome.

          • iSem

            BY:
            everything you said in this comment is true
            But I was being sarcastic when I told Sara that Abiyot means Abiyet I knew exactly what I was doing when I called Abi Abiyot. and he liked it. And also I knew the difference between Abiyot and Abiyet in our language

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            I wouldn’t call that you are being sarcastic but misleading.

            Abi and Sara have special bonds and I thought I would make a correction so she doesn’t get wrong information.

            One day when she went to Eritrea she met an Ethiopian lady. She told her about Abi, this is how much she likes him and I think he likes her 100 times more:).

            sara: good to see you back. Last time you said, you were moving back to Nefasit. Are you still there or you come back for vacation. I was thinking next time o visit Nefasit I will make a stop and ask people in the market “sara tibehal do tifekTu ab karthum tinebir zineberet:)”

          • iSem

            BY:
            I was sarcastic. Take it from the horses mouth, the one who wrote it, iSem. And am sure sara knows the Abiyot and Abiyet diff. Why would I mislead Sara. I called Abi Abiyot and then few days ago I told sara it means Abiyet.
            So no, I was not misleading and I put a smile after that in case some ppl decided to be mislead. So context, history of the comment of Abi to Abiyot matter

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            Ok, my bad. I made wrong assumption sorry. I didn’t know you had another conversation with Sara.

          • iSem

            BY:
            But when I wrote Assefa Jemere, I was not being sarcastic, I thought it was Jemere and your corrected me, it was Jembere

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            You have good memory. I don’t remember that.

            BTW, why don’t you say “hi” when you write to me anymore:).
            ህርኽርኽ ኢዩ ዝብልካ ዘሎ ለዘበን። ነስተማስል ጀርሚርና 🙂

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            Listen, am saving time as you can see, this is the the FIFA season for me 🙂
            I was going to quaot the God father, but I will not. LOL

            I did not get this: “ህርኽርኽ ኢዩ ዝብልካ ዘሎ ለዘበን። ነስተማስል ጀርሚርና :)”

          • Berhe Y

            iSem:

            ንዘይፈልጠካ በሉ: ሽጣራኻ ደውር:: ህግደፍ ኮንካ እምበር: ነዛ ሰላም ናይ እዝጊሄር ክትከልአና:: አባይ ክትበጽሕ ጥራሕ ዲኻ ግዜ ትቁጥብ::

            ኩዕሶ ድኣ እምብር አብ ሎሚ በጺሑ ተፈሊጥካ: ሳልሕ ጀ. በይኑ ተሪፉ በለኒ::

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            Moderator (warning Salutation please)
            ኩዕሶ ድኣ እምብር አብ ሎሚ በጺሑ ተፈሊጥካ: ሳልሕ ጀ. በይኑ ተሪፉ በለኒ: No am not watching the European soccer, the last time was with you
            I meant the politics in ur region now is like FIFA for me

          • Abi

            Berhe
            አቢየት ! አቢየት! አቢየት !
            I always advised you to slow down a bit.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            No that’s not true. You always told that I am super slow:)
            Are you enjoying Euro? who do you think will win.
            I think it will be Italy, but I will be happy if England wins…

          • Abi

            Berhe
            You are overcompensating:) እንደ አብዮት ቸኮልክብኝ:)
            I’m sad Euro is almost over.
            I wish England win it. I haven’t seen them winning anything. You and I have seen Italians won two World Cup.

          • Tkiros

            I am also cheering for England. However, the Italian are always solid and do an upset.

          • Abi

            Hello TKiros
            I completely agree with you.
            This time England defense is as good as the Italians. They conceded only one goal so far.

            ራእሲ አቢን እጅ መንሳት አትርሳ 🙂
            እንኳን ወደ አዋተ በደህና መጡልን!

          • Tkiros

            Abi,
            That is correct. I just don’t underestimate Italy.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I think lots of people feel the same way. Italy has won the Euro once but long time ago, so it will be very tough game.

            I think England defence is good but I don’t know if they will be good enough to penetrate Italy defence. But with home advantage and hunger for such a long time and good luck they may pull it through.

            You see that’s why I don’t bother with the rest of regular games. Euro / World Cup that’s good for me, with occasional games.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Nothing like champions league or premier league!! I like to see action on a regular basis.
            Go England!!
            I’m hosting a lot of ወሮበሎች for the game.

          • iSem

            Abi: You so bad
            this is multifaceted አቢየት ! አቢየት! አቢየት !
            PS: bad =good in this context

          • Abi

            Berhe
            Yes, I like sariti shikorina a lot.
            Do you know the guy who owns a cigar store at Nefasit?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You mean tea place ? Or is it Cigar ? Saay.

            From what I gather a lot of people that I spoke to want to retire in Nefasit.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Berhe,
            Is your reason because of the 2 rainy seasons or the proximity to Aala, Massawa & Asmara?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi MM,

            Not me. I will be in Asmara most likely. But that’s a good reason to be out there.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            May be it is a coffee shop or something like that with a ኩቺኔታ rental services for tourists and residents.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Almost close. But it will be Bike renting, and bike touring instead.

            Instead of ኩቺኔታ it will be zip lining :).

          • Abi

            Berhe
            I see endless possibilities!!! Time to send the occupying forces to the area:)

          • Tkiros

            Berhe,
            Nefasit is the city close to Dibre Bizen right? isn’t it a small city?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Tkiros,

            Yes. Sara can tell us when she is has time. But I think it has really good weather (more water) mostly green and great for farming.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Tkiros,
            ድርፎ ውርድ በል ‘ሞ ነፋሲት ኣብ ገጽካ ውትፍ ክትብል ‘ያ። ወይ ድማ ብ ደቀምሓረ ጌርካ ጋዴን [ዓላ] ሓሊፍካ ድቕድቕ ናብ ነፋሲት።
            ብኡ ጌርካ ወይ ናብ ኣስመራ ወይድማ ናብ ጎርጉሱም ምስ ዓሳታት ክት ስዕስዕ።
            ክትምንን ‘ንተደሊኻ ግን ንቢዘንካ ምሕኳር ጥራይ ‘ዩ። ቆቢዕን ምርኩስን ኣይትረስዕ።

          • Tkiros

            I have no idea what you wrote. I don’t read Tigrinya. I am officially illiterate when it comes to that language. So translate to English and I can respond.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Since there is no salutation, you can ask your buddy, Charlie, to translate you. No Ingles either.

          • iSem

            Abiyot hi BY:-)
            It is book store with area to smoke cigar and a table with computer where Saay sits to translate “Ashekhkat Alem” video game and “Mi Do Tseba”.

          • T. Kifle

            Hi Berhe,

            His name was Abiyot before he got it changed to Abiy.

          • Tkiros

            Kifle,
            I think he is a revolutionary for Ethiopia. He is going to transform it. There is Ethiopia before Dr. Abiy and afterward.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam iSem,
            Give sara credit. She at least intervened put the fire out. I agree with you deterioration is an apt description. I taught I left such back and forth exchange in dehai. Boy, was I wrong about myself. I promise you, iSem, as I have tremendous respect to the many individuals who participate in this forum, including you, of course. When sane individuals say something equivalent to Ageb, I vacate the earwax from my ears so the eardrums can hear the voices of reason, and so it will have a resonance power.

            Thank you!

          • Abi

            ሓውና በያን
            እኔ ደግሞ ጥሎብኝ ሰዎች ቀስ ብለው ሹክ ሲሉኝ ነው በጥሞና የማዳምጠው:: ሲጮሁብኝ ፈፅሞ አይሰማኝም::
            I keep my earwax in order to filter voices.

          • Bayan Negash

            Gash Abi,
            You have a point. There is a risk of getting the eardrums busted if one gullibly thinks can control what goes into one’s eardrums. In fact, right now, two individuals are talking as I am penning my thoughts, I have no way of controlling it. I am forced to eavesdrop. So, wise advice, Ato Paulos GnoGno!

          • Abi

            ሓውና በያን
            ረጋ ብለው ካዳመጧቸው አንዳንድ ጊዜ ከእብዶችም ቁምነገር አይታጣም ይላሉ አዋቂዎች::

          • iSem

            Hi BNB:
            Of course sister Sara deservers credit, you too. I was expressing my dismay at what transpired by way of welcoming her back and to encourage her to take the positive—your words of deference to ayatat. I might not have been pointed in that, however, that was the intent

          • Bayan Negash

            Hey iSem,
            Thanks, now I get it.

          • Abi

            iSem
            You are lying BIGLY. Your intent was to tell her that you like me very much and introduce her to my new name.

          • Tkiros

            Bayan,
            He is calling you a Hypocrite. “Hypocrite have no shame to go awry and switch their positions!” He is saying you have no scruples. Forget this notion of respecting your elder. You are both intellectual and you should make your stand known. I wouldn’t like to be called hypocrite. He is questioning your devotion and contribution since 2001 and saying you are hypocrite. You owe to your readers to respond this type of accusation. Don’t sweep it under the rug of elders.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Dr. Beyan,
            In this case, you are wrong [‘ንተተጋግየ ንዓይ ዘይኮንካስ ንሓንጎለይ ክሰሳ። ንሳ ‘ያ ተዓዲላትኒ]።
            After the Tigray war started, your view seems completely changed. ንዝደኸየን ዝደኸመን ኣይትህሰዩ ኢሉ, ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ። Oops, sorry, ናይ መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ ‘ዶ ጠቒሰ? ከም ናይ ኢስማዒል ጌርካ ሸለል በለኒ።
            What I don’t understand is that few of you guys started to get irritated and changed your view almost 180 degree after the Tigray war. Are we [the most] missing something? I would love to hear your view.
            With respect

          • said

            Selam Amanuel,

            Yes What you said about me apply to me fully and i take responsibility first . I am here to learn .I have my view and I write about them.
            When one shares a common purpose and commitment to a shared political cause, they do not do change for pity small staff and one need to continue to find display of compassion and understanding, no matter what it is it is not personal issue at hand for me, toleration and we must be in excellent spirit and solidarity . but never at expenses of fact and truth ,what I wrote apple to me big time, in regard Faith and religiosity s very much at the level of the individual take it or leave it
            And many are ‘multidimensional being. And expressions of religion is right for every one. Many have a thin knowledge and understanding of their religion. ,the right to choose, and a range of other things, they are totally ignorant off and I am one of them ,ready and humbly to be corrected.
            Recent I wrote Awate Forum in length ; and I said, For decades our region suffered exceptionally, a grim reality. Those who write simply as an expression of fierce resistance to all kinds of tyrannies related to the Horn of Africa do so at the risk of their own peril. But these are beautiful souls who see and feel writing not only as fundamental as the air they breathe, the impetus of which is social justice, but also because they value human life over anything else. They write against dictatorial and dysfunctional governments and against hypocrites, crooked politicians they despise. These kinds of writers have no interest in vilifying anyone, person or group of a population as a locus of evil. The cause for hope runs way too deep in their souls to entertain any alternative ideas other than one that promotes humanity, diversity, peace, and serenity. They worry about far and near. They write about what goes on in their block and write about what goes on around the globe

        • woldu hadgu

          Dear Bayan.

          I have never seen you trouncing PFDJ as you are trashing TPLF. Is your beef with TPLF greater than the your beef with PFDJ? If so I am very dismayed by you. But I am hopeful you are not lost. I will take this as your second snafu. your priorities are misplaced and mistimed.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam woldu,

            This is the problem with new comers. They judge by what one writes at the time they see the exchanges. Never to bother and ask yourself what I had written in the past, you come to label people based on what you saw in the last several months. For example, if you simple google my name based on EPLF, this is what would pop up: “EFLNA/ENASA(Mengisteab Yisaq, Petros Yohannes) & EPLF”. This is just one, which goes way back to 2007. You can’t expect me to hand readers in a silver platter.
            Priorities shift. To my knowledge, I’ve never written anything ill about TPLF because EPFDJ was number one enemy, that continues to be enemy number to Eritrean people. The shifting of priorities came with the current war. I am learning a lot about TPLF, which is seeming no different than EPLF. They appear to be different side of the same revolutionary coin. I’m reading in everything I can get my hands on about the late Meles Zenawi leadership. That’s why you see me focused more on TPLF these days. Over the last 25 years of my writing, I haven’t surveyed it but the sole focus had been EPLF/PFDJ governing style.

            Before you pass judgments about being dismayed, and all, doing a little homework might go a long way in having you be a fair reader. Imagine, if I were to judge the late PM MZ by his involvement in the Gambella massacre or by his invasion of Somalia…it wouldn’t be fair. After all, the man led Ethiopia until his passing in 2012. You do the math. I have been writing for the last 25 years, you are trying to pass a judgment based on your impression of the last several months. I’ll leave up to you the rest.

          • woldu hadgu

            Dear Beyan:

            There is time for every season. And I assert to you this is not “the” season for you to criticize TPLF. To do it is a disservice to prudence, moderation, justice and courage. You need virtues as a human being to show pity, compassion and love when the Beautiful, Stoic and Brave people of Tigray fall into hard times. During these past eight months the only barbarity that was did not befall to Tigray people was the gas chamber. Everything else was done.

            TPLF is the vanguard to Tigray people. You an outsider have no right to viciously attack TPLF which the people themselves chose, respect and love.

            No mater how hard you try to separate TPLF from the people of Tigray, you will fall like Abiy and Isaias. Only the people of Tigray have the power and will to separate themselves from TPLF.

            By the way Who are you?

            Eritrean? then you have an immovable elephant in your room. Deal with your problems first!

            Again PRUDENCE!!

            As for me I am a veteran. An everlasting admirer of Awate.com. Lately I am worried with the direction. My PTSD is torturing me with a nagging unforgettable history: If ELF can fail, Awate.com can fail.

            So please free yourself from the “I”. It only leads to pride. Your vanity is leading you towards abyss. But because I love you, I beg you to examine yourself and regenerate.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hadgu,

            An unexamined life is not worth of living [Socrates]. At this critical time – war of ethnic cleansing, if you could not identify between the “victimized” and “victimizer,” and writing against the victimized people and their organization, who defend their people, is not worthwhile cause

          • iSem

            Hi Woldu:
            I disagree with you in your assertion that BN as an outsider(Eritrean) is not his place to criticize TPLF. TPLF’s history is intricately woven in our history, their policies, their blunders, their intension all affect Eritrean affairs, Eritrean progress to rule of all. Not just the geographic proximity but their actions taken with deliberations or haphazardly
            What I disagree with BN is his equating TPLF with EPLF/PFDJ. Their similarities stop that both were revolutionaries. I do not gauge TPLF on how damaging it was to Eritrea when comparing it to EPLF, I do that with the lense what they accomplished for their people and how EPLF/PFDJ actually made Eritrea worse than Dergi. I could list the long list but some here will have bad weekend.
            So BN is right to criticize TPLF for the reasons above and I disagree with his equating them with EPLF. To wit, if you are Tigrayan and you publicly attended a meeting or demo in diaspora opposing/criticizing TPLF you are not afraid to visit Tigray, nothing will happen to you. In Eritrea if you do so your name will be in a list at the airport and you will be whisked away on arrival, that is the Eritrea that some want us to celebrate. So BN is spot on criticizing TPLF, but equating them to EPLF/PFDJ when viewed through lese of their stellar accomplishment for their ppl is wrong

          • Tkiros

            Hi Isem,
            I have been critical of Eritrean actually directly to the representative. I don’t pay 2%. I am not a big vocal fish and I don’t know what would happen to big fish. But as average Eritrean you can be critical of Eritrea- as long as you don’t physically try to attack… they can care less…
            Just for you information I have refused to pay 2% and told the ambassador directly why.
            If you are small fish… they don’t care.

          • iSem

            Hi Tkiros:
            No, That is not true.
            Do you know this:
            1. They detained an Eritrean from Dalals, a taxi driver whose only mistake was to debate with his PFDJ taxi drivers friends. He went to Eri to attend the wedding of his martyred brother’s son
            2. They detained Hiwot Zemichale from because she was ex ELF fighter and celebrate Togoruba every year
            They both were released when USA intervened, they were small fish. Bu there are countless Eritreans who never made it back to their families once they visited, though they were small fish.
            So you are wrong. But good that you refused to pay the taxation that finances prisons and pays for security agents

          • Desbele

            Hi Tkiros,
            It seems you are paying 2% in kind.
            In a country where people are disappeared for thought crime, you are saying pfdj wont touch you unless you physically attack. Your kind of lie falls under denial-refusing to acknowledge a truth

          • Tkiros

            de..
            I am speaking as an American citizen traveling to Eritrea. I don’t pay my 2% and I told the ambassador I won’t pay 2% until there is documented evidence that shows where my money goes… I traveled freely in Eritrea. I am not a big fish. I wasn’t causing rallies… just enjoying vacation and traveling the country. I can’t say about the condition of the average Eritrean citizen. If I didn’t have an American passport… I might disappear who knows…

          • Dongolo

            Selam Tkiros. Americans who live and work abroad also pay federal tax even if they do not agree with the U.S. Government. There was a short window when those with both an American and Ethiopian passport could travel with ‘relative’ ease to Eritrea.

          • Tkiros

            Dongolo, I hope you are not comparing American government with Eritrean government in terms of transparency and accountability to its citizen. That is day-night. Look at the Eritrean refugee suffering in refugee camps in Tigray, look at Eritrean refugee drowning in the Mediterranean, etc… Eritrea government is not accountable to its citizen.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Tkiros. You can compare the American Government to the Eritrean Government if you wish, for both have both performed their share d dirty deeds. Trump. Biden, or PIA aside, do you believe that it is OK to criticize Eritrea and not the U.S. for imposing a diaspora tax?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Dongolo,

            I think we should get away with the 2% tax all together. And for those who paid, the next democratic government should find a way to give them credit / refund what they paid.

            I say this because the country loses more than it gained by this tax.

            1) it creates a spy network in the Eritrean embassy who for instead of focusing get investment, bi-lateral and other relationship, they simply are wasting the money on silly issue focusing who is on our side, who paid tax, who said this said that etc. Their best accomplishment in the year is organizing ጋይላ and recruiting young members.

            2) even if we come up with efficient tax system, I don’t think the paper required really worth the efforts.

            3) Is there a merit for the Eritrean government to demand other Eritreans with different citizens to pay tax, without having country to country agreement?

            4) The US is the example used a lot. I don’t know if any other country. Just ask yourself, do you think, the rest 194 or what ever the number of countries “not smart enough” to figure this out and implement similar tax if there was benefit to it?

            5) In case of the US, it’s not blanket tax you pay 2% regardless if you pay tax on your foreign income or not. For most cases (income that’s earned from employment) as you will pay in the country where you earned it, you are not required to double pay. For example, if you work in the UK and you earn 80,000 a year and pay tax on it, you will not pay to the US Govt on the same income. Which is what Eritrean government tax does, double taxing.

            The US focus is primarily, to go after tax evasion of Americans. The US is such a vast economy and it has a lot of influence in the world economy, as it’s open from the world to do business but it is also vulnerable for abuse. For example, there are those offshore countries where there is zero tax on income (such as Bahamas), but one is allowed to conduct business or investing from those countries.

            A lot of Americans invest in the US such as Stock market and make money. Those type of income are subject to tax. But over all it’s fair tax system and not double taxing system. In Eritrea they even expect you to pay if you are a student and going to school on loan. They expect you to pay even if you are unemployed and on welfare.

            It’s so vulnerable for abuse and for favouritism.

            They would have much better way to encourage and attract investment if they do something that gives incentive for the people to do so. For example, selling bonds and give better rate of return, creating investment opportunities such as Timeshare vacations, building vacation homes, create summer camps for Diaspora children to spend and immerse in culture and learn language (like those 4 weeks over night camps) etc where they build citizens that have great bonds with their country and culture and create life time friends.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            I wish and pray that the Ethiopian government impose a minimum of 2% diaspora tax on Ethiopians.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            If you are series we can discuss it further but I want to know why?

            Why do you think so?

          • Abi

            Berhe
            The last time I made a moderate contribution to the government was when my First Lady insisted that we buy the GERD bond. Actually, she bought it and notified me later. I was so hesitant about the whole situation. (የቐንየለይ መአሬ)
            I truly believe that the Abiy administration will utilize the resources better than any individual efforts.
            We need to do more than demonstrations in front of the White House or state department or different embassies around the world. We can hire the best and brightest lobbyists money can buy if we gather our efforts and resources. This is just on the diplomatic front. Imagine what we can achieve economically, socially, emotionally…
            Key word here is “Trust”of the government .

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I think getting the diaspora involved and use the resources and help them directing and investing to help their country is great idea. I fully support it but it has to have legal ramifications for it and it needs to be transparent. At the same time, cost and benefit analysis needs to be done to see if it actually words.

            From this point of view, I think there is a lot that can and should learn from Israel and how they interconnected their economy legally.

            Israel Bonds
            There is a lot of money invested back to Israel from abroad using the bonds. In the US for example, if there is a way to create investment vehicle where Ethiopian Americans can save portion of their 401k or child education saving for 5 or 10 years bonds with guaranteed interests better than what they can get locally (the US) but cheaper than what Ethiopian government can borrow from privately then people, will be able to save.

            Property investment:
            For example give people the opportunity to buy condo where they can be used as vacation homes (airBnb) when they are not there but they use when they vacation. May be with 20K down payment and 25 mortgage payment plan, people can participate owning property. For example, 100K 2 or 3 bedroom, with 10K down payment, and around 5% interest the monthly payment is around 500 US a month (with Ethiopian bank)I think a lot of people can afford this type of investment. Just think about from hard currency point of view I’d say 10000 people participate, that’s 5 million dollars monthly.

            It will create jobs, employment, and needed hard currency.

            As you have also said, Ethiopians in the US can influence the political land scape. I honestly do not think you need even to hire lobbyists as much. All you need is dedicated you activist no more than 1000 all over the continental US, Canada, UK and other western countries.

            Every election time, donate money to the local representative of congress or senator and get to know them in person during their time if need (election).

            Mobilize the Ethiopian population to participate actively, putting up signs, taking pictures, ask them to come and visit the population in local church etc and work closely with campaign managers and offices. In short create Ethiopian and Americans friendship or something…. that you can tap when needed.

            But, but you need an accountable government back home who does the right thing…so that you they can back up and support you.

            You can’t have a government that disappear it’s citizens and turn and make it look good ( as the case in Eritrea and PFDJ and NNNN) an impossible task.

          • Abi

            Berhe
            What can I say!! You said it all.
            Responsible and trustworthy government is a must for any kind of economic activity.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe Y. Personally, I am against any form of diaspora tax be it from the U.S. or Eritrea. Thing is, for an American to criticize Eritrea for what the U.S. is also doing, is a bit hypocritical. In regards to the U.S. tax scheme that It places on its expatriates, it is far more complex , open to abuse/ corruption and demanding in regards to reporting requirements than the flat 2% that Eritrea applies. Americans once the reach a certain threshold of expatiate tax deductible has income, then have to pay taxes on overall Globally Derived Income that includes things like DSA, education grant, reassignment grant, travel grant, travel & shipment entitlements, etc. In addition, they have to file Foreign Asset Disclosure (FBAR) and Fincen as they are also taxed on income generated from foreign bank holdings. The U.S. even taxes their expatriated on their pension. Suffice it to say, there is a reason as to why so many Americans (i.e. Tina Turner) have renounced their U.S. citizenship in recent years.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Dongolo,

            I think it may make sense to the US as the sheer size of their economy and they can justify the overhead overall.

            I personally doesn’t benefit Eritrea economically at all. Yes, it benefit the PFDJ as they use it to buy loyalty and means of extra cash to pay for their agents and pay their expenses.

            I heard, all the money that’s paid, for the most part stays local to pay the offices of PFDJ/ council / embassy.

            But with no public budget and transparency, the government have no moral ground to ask for obligation (like 2% tax) without (representation- people have no say).

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe Y. Please do a Google search entering ‘Record number of Americans renounce citizenship’ and you will see that expatriate tax is a major reason.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Dongolo,

            I am not disagreeing with you. That’s even more reason for canceling it.

          • iSem

            Dongolo and BY:
            The issue of fairness or complication is not the heart of the issue here. The Eritrean 2% tax a repression tax, illegal levied at the whim of IA. So Dongolo, you can confuse us with the complication or corruption of USA, but the 2% tax finances the security agent to disappear Eritreans , my country ppl cross the border endangering their lives and getting shot. I agree with BY, this scam must be refunded in the future with interest determined by the parliament
            BY you are engaging Dongolo who is drawing false equivalence of the US tax and the tax of the despot. it is surprising.
            These PFDJ supporters are, they have inflated notion of themselves, they want to compare their thuggish régime, that like shift goes to a village and makes his demands to USA tax laws. At least if you are US citizen and die in the sea, they do not refuse your dead body for burial or call you some European died in the the sea. In USA, you pay tax as a citizen, in Eritrea, 2% you pay it as a subject, a serf, even a slave. False equivalency, PFDJ style

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe. Like I said before, personally, I am against any form of diaspora tax be it U.S. or Eritrean. It shouldn’t be a case of saying one evil is better than another evil.

          • iSem

            Dongolo:
            Again, you are trying to walk fine line not piss off your handlers. You are drawing false equivalence:
            Eritrean 2% is a repression tax used to finance killing, it doe snot benefit us. If you pay it, you are a subject, a serf and your taxis used to support the security apparatus of PFDJ. Do not compare it to any country that has semblance of civility

          • Hashela

            Selam Woldu Hadgu

            The shrill call for a ruthless purge as soon as the long-hold myth is questioned and analyzed is a known phenomenon and practice in the political landscape of TPLF and PFDJ and their veterans.

            Dear Woldu, this is the right time to critically analyze and reflect on the plunders and failures that led TPLF and the Tigrayan people where they are now. The discussion is crucial for the path forward. There should be no sacred cow here and no postponement of overdue discussion.

            For the following reasons, TPLF is a part of the problem and partially responsible for the misery in which the Tigrayan people find in themselves.

            – The zero-sum game of TPLF in its negotiation with the Federal Government between 2018 and Nov 2020.

            – TPLF’s overestimation of its military power (pre-Nov 2020)

            – TPLF’s failure to protect the Tigrayan people between Nov 2020 and June 2021.

            – TPLF’s inability to learn from its past plunder by insisting Eritrean withdrawal from Eritrean sovereign territories as precondition for a current cease fire.

            – The new and old face of TPLF that is increasingly becoming obvious for everybody to see: Tigrai-Tigrini, Agazianism and islamophobia.

            – TPLF’s unique ability to destroy any remaining bridge between the neighborly people of Eritrea and northern Ethiopia.

            In rural Eritrea, we have a saying that aptly describes TPLF’s victim hood mentality and shrill call for sympathy for the victimizer (TPLF): ወንጭፍ’ሲ ነብሳ ሃሪማ ትእውዪ።

          • Tkiros

            Hashela,
            You have to understand that TPLF is in hard situation. There situation is worst now is a lot worse than Pre-november 4. They have put the Tigrayan people thru hell in terms of experience with refugee and famine, and destruction of property.
            You can’t ask them now what have they achieved? They are wounded and recovering.
            I look at Singapore, South Korea, Rwanda, China… and I see society that have had stability and prosperity.
            I can’t say the same thing for Ethiopia or Eritrea.
            The Horn is the ghetto of not only Africa but the world.

      • Brhan

        Selam Said,

        We receive news and information and discuss. I believe you agree with me on this. News and information are more credible than our explanations. Even if we try hard again and again in explaining to prove that the news and information are wrong, the fact that our effort has become repetitive indicates we are not winning. Something is wrong with our explanations. We are in this situation because we are not comfortable with the news and information we listen to and read. We hate the words and the data that we receive. But this doesn’t mean we can’t explain. We can, but our explanation must be logical and must reflect what is on the ground.

        As you know, no news is coming from Eritrea. The news that comes from Ethiopia is false or fake news. So we are left with regional and international news providers. I do not think you do not follow trustworthy news providers. There are a number of them, and what makes their news credible is because they are neutral. These news agencies or channels are diverse, but almost all of their news tell one story: the fact on the ground.

        For the past eight months, our single source of the news about the war in Tigray and the involvement of Eritrean troops were these international media outlets. What has happened in the past eight months is different from what occurred before November 2020. There was the issue of the border, deportees, and wounds of the Badme war. Now, we have alleged war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide. The two can’t mix. The former can’t justify the latter. We have to be fair in discussing the Tigray war. It is Ethiopia’s internal war that exploded due to Ethiopians inability to solve their political differences. When the regime in Eritrea says through its FM that the issue is an internal Ethiopian issue, it becomes challenging to justify other reasons why the troops are there. Abi, who has a very short memory, says something new every day, and the regime says something else.

        If our explanation can’t reflect the fact, then it is going to be a cycle. No matter how much we write and explain, again and again, we will never take a step forward.

    • Tkiros

      Hello Brhan,
      You sound like a peacemaker. Beyond differences are these gentlemen Professors or PhDs or is this designation in Awate.com

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ይዝከረኒ
    ኣብ ወጻኢ ሰዓብቲ ህግደፍ
    ሓደ ዘመሳስል ባህሪ ኣለዎም
    ብምባል ትወዲ ክገልጽ

    ኣኮኡ
    ዓዲ በጺሑ
    ኣደይ ሓንቲ ሓፍቱ
    ከይበጸሓ ኣሊበርጎ ሒዙ
    ይብል ትወዲ
    ወርሒ ምሉእ ተቐሚጡ

    ፈውሲ ሞት
    በጺሐ መበሊ
    በጺሑ ገዛና ይብል ኣዘንታዊ

    ምስዚ ኹሉ ስእነት
    ገዛና ዝጸመዋ በረኸት
    ገለ ከይበለ
    ቻው! ኢሉና ዕርብ
    ናብ ኣመሪካ

    ደሓር ተሰማዕናስ
    ዕሉል ሰዓቢ ህግደፍ
    መምህር ናይ ሓደ ዩኒቨርስቲ
    ‘ዩ ኢሎምና
    ገሪሙና

    ከመይ? ብኸመይ? ዝበትኪ
    መምህር ናይ ላዕለዋይ ብርኪ
    ናይ ትምህርቲ
    ኴኑ

    ክንብል ተራገምና
    ሕሰም ኣይትርከቡ
    ሕሰም ‘ኳ ‘ና ረኺብና
    ይብል ኣዘንታዊ

    • haileTG

      Hello MM,

      ዝሓከለ ህግደፊዝም

      ተጎምጒማ ስዕረቲዝም
      ክትሞሉቕ ካብ ገበኒዝም
      ከይትሕተት ብህልቂትዝም
      ከይትስሕና ወራሪዝም

      ዘሊላ ዘሊላ ኣመሪካኒዝም
      ጥውይ ኢላ ስደተኛታትናይዝም
      ምስ ኣበያ ናብ ኣስላሚዝም
      ክሳራ ሳክቲዝም

      መልሲ ናብ ወያኒዝም
      ወሲኻ ትግራይዝም
      እንድዕላ ሎሚዝም
      ኩሉ ኮይኑዋ ጋዶይዝም

      ዝዋውዕ ትኣስር ፍትሒይዝም
      ትማጻደቕ ናይ ውሽጥናዩይዝም
      ተሳኢኑ መህደሚዝም
      በየን ትሓክል ህግደፊዝም???

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሃይሊዝም
        It is ፋኒዝም!

  • leGacY

    Hi Ismael,

    I have noticed this common theme of anti-Yohannes fervor here at Awate. As they say, one man’s hero is another man’s traitor. Poorly sourced mid 19th centuries anecdotal accounts hold no water in my book. I am suspicious of source in general but extremely suspicious of sources from an era where not even a single soul can corroborate .

    I could almost cast this as “pure fiction” but will settle for under “hmmm” since you are referencing contemporary events.

    • Abi

      leGacY
      የጀግናው ዓፄ ዮሃንስ የታሪክ አሻራ በኢትዮጵያውያን ልብ ውስጥ ለዘለአለም እየበራ ይኖራል!!!!!!

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Abi,
        You like Alula & Yohannes but you hate the rest of Tigray people. Just like you like DIA and HGDF [and of course the red sea ports] but you don’t care about the majority of Eritreans. Interesting.
        ብትግርኛ: ከምዚ ከማኻ: ተበላጺ ንብሎ

        • Abi

          MM
          “አባቱ ዳኛ ልጁ ቀማኛ” ሆኖብኝ ነው::

          As I told you several times before, I don’t have any interest in your ports. Plenty ports are serving Ethiopia at this moment. Plenty to choose from.
          በርበራ ወደብ ስራ ጀምሯል!!!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ረቡዕ ምድሪ ሽሮ ተመሲሐ
    ሮፋዕ ‘ምበር በልኩ የእጋረይ ዘርጊሐ
    ኣሳፊሐ

    ኣየ ሽሮ! ከም ዝግኒ ‘ኳ ዘይሰበሐ
    ክንድዚ መንፋሕ ሲ ካበይ ኮን መጸ
    ሎምስ ተዳሂለ
    ብሽሮ ‘ምበር ፈሪሐ

    ሽሮ
    ንስኻ ዶ ትኸውን
    ንህዝበይ ተዕውሮ
    ተደንቁሮ
    ናይ ሕድ-ሕድ ሓሳባት ን ከይንጻወሮ
    ትግብረና ኣንታ ሽሮ
    ‘ንታይ ዘለ ምህሮ?
    ከይኣኽለካ ንነብሰይ ተዕብሮ
    ወይ ጉዳም ሽሮ
    በል ደሓን ግዜ ይቐይሮ

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Shalom !
    Awates,

    AMAN ! AMAN ! KULU AMAN !

    Here is an entry without formatting
    as suggested by the moderator/s.

    If it was not for ingenuity , Eritrean independence and the people would
    not had/have been saved from the politico-military assault waged by the
    joint Pfdj + Tplf in year 2000 0r beyond.
    The situation then prevailed left no window to escape except through the
    type of sacrifice I and my group paid to cross brilliantly through AREA 51.
    There was no any other way than that one brilliant strategy that had
    penetrated the encirclement and opened the way for everyone to go out.
    So
    Sure to begin with it was based on a trick.But for a good reason, that is to save the
    people and fighters held under the Pfdj. And sure we saved Eritrean independence
    and the people from the jaws of the Pfdj and the Tplf which some are denying to
    acknowledge it today when freed.
    They were so cornered and between the hammer and the anvil. So what did we do
    wrong by bending the international rule or law to save so many people and a Nation
    held under the mercy of the Pfdj and the Tplf then at that time you know when ?
    It is so important and crucial that they acknowledge genuinely our sacrifices so that
    we would/will be able to know if we are on the SAME or DIFFERENT page/s when
    we move on !!!

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    “The Saudi defense official is visiting Washington for a series of meetings and has already met with the US Special Envoy for the Horn of Africa Jeffrey Feltman and US Special Envoy for Yemen Tim Lenderking to discuss the situation in Ethiopia and the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Yemen.”

    Anthony Blinken is scheduled to hold talks with the kingdom’s Deputy Defense Minister.

  • Tzigereda

    Dear Ismael,

    ልብን መንፈስን ዘረስርስ ዘረባ:: Thank you!
    Though it might sound illusionary, due to the incompetence & brutality of all leaders (and partially complicity of the society) in The Horn, that is the only way we can exist and strive as humans with dignity.

  • Dongolo

    Selam Ismail AA. Before, you were one of the leading voices expressing concern with the fate of Eritrean refugees in Ethiopia to include Tigray. What is your take on recent accusations in regards to mass execution of Eritrean refugees by the TPLF. For example, Yemane G. Meskel’s Twitter of yesterday read ‘TPLF is on a rampage of revenge killings & wanton massacre of civilians, including in “refugee” camps. Yet, these atrocities & all TPLF illicit acts continue to be grossly shunned by the politicized UN agencies (OCCHA, UNHCR etc.), certain governments & affiliated media outlets’.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Dongolo,

      I will let Ismail reply but do you think there is merit coming this from Eritrean government spokes person and information minister worrying about the faith of its citizens that were chased away by the sane government he represents.

      The government was in control for much of the conflict and have not said or heard anything for the well being of the refugees.

      Having said that, I think every Eritrean opposition should advocate for their safety and work with the international community to have them relocate and find settlement somewhere else away from the conflict zone.

      Considering what happened in Tigray, I don’t think it’s safe for them to stay there.

    • haileTG

      Selam Dongolo,

      Refugees are always vulnerable, even if this particular news could not be corroborated. BBC had tried to verify and people on the ground still haven’t any information.

      Did YG only tweeted about it? And why did he use the quotation marks for refugees? Does that mean so called refugees but not really so??

      • iSem

        Hi HTG:
        I hope Ismail AA does not dignify the question from Dongoloa with an answer
        Y. G. Meskel. caring about refuges? A guy who refuses to receive the 350 dead Eritreans from Italy. And a Dongoloa is asking about Ismail’s stand about the killing of refuges by TDF. Of course Ismail is on will be on the right side, anyone is against except PFDJ and closet PFDJ is against killing our own or any human life. I am not sure if Dongolo condemns it truly, if it was not politically expedient.

        • Dongolo

          Selam iSem. You are correct that Y.G. is not the most reliable info source when it comes to Eritrean refugees. Point is though, many here will on the one hand, automatically refute anything that comes from the PFDJ side but will on the other hand, fully accept at face value anything that comes from the TPLF side.

  • Ismail AA

    Hayak Allah Ustaz Ismael and all,
    This is a product of sober and well-informed mind. Lucid and articulate as usual. At a time when sober minds are overwhelmed by intoxicated egos, writings of this kind refresh and massage tempers. Thank you.

    • Woldegabriel Tesfamariam

      Selam Ismael AA,
      It is good to see you back. Welcome!!

    • Haile S.

      Selamat Ismail,
      Great to see you even for a brief moment, one of the truly sober minds, Ismail AA. Thank you for popping by.

    • kokhob selamone2

      Dear Brother Ismail AA,

      It is very refreshing to all of us – to read the above comment for all awate participants. Welcome, our mentor(an experienced and trusted adviser) and really very wisdom man thank you. Dear brother, please continue to be around us. Wishing you, Healthy and more comfortable life.

      KS,,

    • Peace!

      Hala Ismail AA,

      Welcome back.

      Peace!

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Ustaaz Ismail AA,

      It is refreshing to see your brief note, more than anything, it reassures the forum members that you are feeling better, one hopes. Too, it is refreshing to see someone who not only uses his real name but the profile picture to boot. The forum seems to be out numbered with those who use pen-names. How could one develop a rapport (def. “a close and harmonious relationship in which the people or groups concerned understand each other’s feelings or ideas and communicate well”). It’s difficult enough to communicate with some of those who use their real names.

      The forum is becoming a field in which the nameless people inundate it. I am beginning to question its sustainability where genuine dialogue can be fostered toward the common understanding that one hopes can be forged related to Eritrea and Eritreans as well as with people of the Horn. When health issues get in the way, I completely understand if you don’t respond. This definitely was not intended to engage, only to acknowledge how good it is to see your note, a sign and hope, by extension, that you are taking care of your health.

      Respectfully,
      Beyan

      • iSem

        HI Ustaz Ismail AA and BNB:
        As they say speak of an angel, we were asking about the voice of reason that was conspicuously absent from the heated debates
        I am overjoyed to see you back Ismail AA

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Beyan,

        The author of this article is one of my favorite authors in Awate. As much as I liked his past articles, I liked this one also equally for it gives some historical parallelism. You criticized me of quoting some verses from the Bible you were irritated like a hell. Is there any reason why you don’t equally criticized Ismail -the author of this piece, for he also quoted from the holy book, like myself? Tell me please?

        • Hashela

          Selam Amanuel

          Greeting from Argentina!

          Below is a title of an article published in Aigaforum.
          “Tigray’s Holy War. What should the objectives be?”
          By Retie Keneo, 25.06.2.

          Do we need to say more? You are singing in tone with these holy warriors!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            You don’t have a clue what holy war means. Absolutely. What do you want me to add except beyond telling you that you are clueless.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            All what I am asking you is that you arrive at 4 when you add 2 + 2.
            Within the Tigrayan leadership, there are people who see this terrible war as a path to a Tigrai-Tigrini and Agazian state, a deeply islamophob ideology. By invoking Biblical mythology and narration to describe the pyrrhic battle victory, you are knowingly or unknowingly associating yourself with these despicable people.

        • Bayan Negash

          selam Aman,
          Perhaps you didn’t read my response to iSem on the same subject. Here is what I said:

          Selam iSem,

          Here is the thing about quoting a scripture in war settings. Interpreting what is happening as something biblical is just at the edge of the precipice. If God is behind the success of every battle (any winner can claim that). Then there is no Just God. Everyone goes to battle believing God is behind them. God fighting another God, in other words, religious war.

          Secularism is leaving God to the individual. Can you imagine every political party claiming its program is sanctioned by God and by extension, the others sanctioned by Satan. Bringing the duality (Satan and God) into administrative and political fights is contrary of the idea of secularism.

          I see no point of bringing such discussions in the forum. That’s why I was saying it is a slippery slope.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            My question is has nothing to do with your reply to Sem. My question is you haven’t criticized this article for there is quoting from the Holy book. Remember, I am not against quoting, but you are. So what is the difference between my quoting and Ismail’s quoting? Not the quote in themselves, but their sources.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Aman,
            I quoted you from the bible. What makes you think the source is the problem. Context matters. The context in which you used it leads to the way I expressed it when responding to iSem. Your quote leads straight to the Holy war between and within religious groups. If you choose to not accept it, then, let us agree to disagree.

            The context in which the article in question is being used is completely different. The author is not advocating a Holy war, your assertion could lead toward that end. It is why I characterized it as a slipper slope. If you don’t believe so, then, give it a rest, bro.

            By the way, the author never bothers to join in the discussion. Perhaps, a lesson that I need to head as that’s the wisest thing to do in this forum these days. He writes and leaves it for each one of us to reflect on his article. You interpret it the way you wish to interpret. And I take what I wish to take. I choose to respond when I feel like it. If you think you are going to compel me to respond just because you ask, think again.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            The holy war is in your mind and those who distorted the quoted verses. In your mind the Bible talks about “holy war” and the Quran don’t. Is that what it leads us. Really? Now you make it yourself a religious argument. I am not a religious person, but I will assure that the religious people will come after you. I now know what you are up to, and therefore, I close my case when you make your case the way you did it.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Amanuel,
            Glad you convinced yourself and the case is closed. You can believe in what you want to believe from here to eternity – it matters not. There are readers who are paying attention to your outlandish assumptions. Nobody said you were religious. Nobody said you are advocating for the Holy war. All what was said was your particular choice of the quote could lead to that slippery slope, particularly coming from someone who claims to believe in pluralism. The ethnic federalism our region has been unable to handle.

            Now, you want to add this kind of a quote, where the logical end of it will lead nowhere but to that. You are advocating all this from the comfort of your home. It is not about your belief, it is about to those you are speaking on behalf of. Word has it now, Gebretsakan’s nephew is going on retribution binge, the rule of the jungle is beginning to set in. Keep on advocating what you want to advocate, your wish will come to its realization, sooner or later.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            You opened the discussion. You don’t want it to have closure on it. It is laughable to attribute the quoted verses from the Bible as religious argument because it came in the discussion comment. But if the quoted verses from Quran is in the body of the article, it is not religious. How so, Beyan? Why the Bible quotation will lead us to slippery slopeI and not the Quran? I am not calling you to criticize Ismail’s quotation, for I am not against quoting. I brought it to show you how hypocrite religious man you are.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam Aman,

            Just because you had the last word, it doesn’t mean the conversation is supposed to end. Let us keep keeping on, my brother until the Kingdom comes. Now, I am a religious man. Keep labeling me. The more you do that on the people you don’t know, the more preposterous the conversation gets. I hope you are not passing that judgment based on less than 15 minutes that we met in person by sheer happenstance. Otherwise, it’s best to keep your belief to yourself. Again, nobody said you were a religious person. Nobody said you are this, that or the other. It was a simple assertion that I made based on quoted verse. And now you are going on accusation binge. I don’t get it, Aman. What gives?

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Your argument is based purely on assumptions. Bayan didn’t mention anything about the Bible/Quran. Your assumption is, since Bayan didn’t criticize the author of the article under discussion for quoting the holy book, he is automatically for holly war.
            Wrong assumption leading to wrong conclusion.
            Slippery slope!!!!

          • Bayan Negash

            Amen! Gash Abi. Or should I say it like this: Ameeeeeen!!!!

          • Abi

            ሓውና በያን
            You should have said
            ምዕመናን አሜን በሉ!!!

          • Bayan Negash

            Haw Abi,

            You are right, I’m already a religious man. I will stand corrected: “ምዕመናን አሜን በሉ!!!”

          • Abi

            እንዲህ ነው እንጂ!!
            ምእመናን አሜን እንድትሉ በንጉሥ ተበይኗል !!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            I didn’t accuse him that he is for holy war, rather he accused me of quoting from the Bible. Hence my argument.

            Second, you don’t need to mention the Bible or Quran in name, for quoting from these books implicitly tells about them. No assumptions and no slippery slope.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            The second round of skirmish started when you ( out of the blue) demanded that Beyan should criticize the author of the current article under discussion for quotations used from the holy book.
            1- you are not in any position to force an individual to comment on any given topic. You are not moderating a debate and guide the debate to your liking.
            2- Since Beyan did not criticize the current article, you automatically assumed that he is supporting the author.
            3- As I said earlier, you based your debate on assumptions.
            4- it would have been a much better move on your part had you asked for explanation instead of basing your arguments on implications.
            5- Let us wait for the upcoming article by Beyan and see his position instead of taking liberty in labeling him.
            6- ignore the above zibazinke if you don’t find any valid points.
            7- ስህተት የቁልቁለት ድጥ ነው:: መጠንቀቅን መመርኮዝ አንዘንጋ!
            የቁልቁለት ድጥ = slippery slope
            8- የቐንየለይ

        • Hashela

          Selam Amanuel

          Please stop calling people by their academic title and as soon as you disagree with them removing their title. You are making yourself ridiculous beyond measure.

          From the onset, just stick by the first name without academic or honorary titles.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            Why should I respect for some one who disrespects me and who tries to put me a rabbit hole. Don’t be sxxxxx. Respect works only when it is reciprocated. Mind your business, for God sake.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Just be principled and consistent.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            Unlike yourself, I am!

          • Peace!

            Hi Hashela,

            Just curious what’s God’s standard for moral integrity? Does it change when….?

            Peace!

          • iSem

            Hi Hashela:
            I hear you, I remember you when you were so vocal when PFDJ stripped he titles of Amb. Haile, and tegadai Petros and all G-15.
            You, you guys are the pinnacle of hypocrisy. No you are the essence of hypocrisy.
            You have no shred of shame
            PS: mind your business and do not come near two justices seekers

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            There is no shame with this unprincipled hypocrites. As if they are principled, they talk about principles.

            Regard

          • Abi

            Hashela
            Job 1:21 God gives God takes.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            Your elevation of mortals to a deity is rejected, due to hiking activities the court of appeals is closed.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            The only thing elevated here is the hiking trails in Argentina:)

          • Hashela

            Abi
            yes, currently the level and temperature are that of the Danakil Depression: Elevation below Normal-Null (negative values) and temperature above 45 degree C. I wish a tectonic uplift!

          • Peace ToAll

            Selam Hashela,
            A Ph. D. candidate is qualified with a Dr. title? May be in Las Cruces

          • Hashela

            Selam Tkiros and Peace ToAll

            Neither Beyan nor I claimed that Beyan has as a PhD. His short CV clearly indicates that he his a PhD candidate.
            Please direct your question to Amanuel.

          • Tkiros

            Is Beyan a PhD? You have to earned and recognized a PhD.

      • Metshaf Jigninet

        Selam Ustaz Bayan,

        Public figures, like yourself, should be given more respect when communicating with them. I have that as a rule of thumb even when I don’t agree with them. You are all brave!

        You are restricted in ways those of us with pen names aren’t, if you don’t have D Trump as your role model that is. 😀

        • Bayan Negash

          merHaba MJ,
          I appreciate you at least draw a line where one will be forced to focus on the counter ideas you present. As much as I could I try to focus on the ideas people present, not on their person when answering, where the pen-name will have no bearing. But when individuals try send veiled threats while hiding behind pen-names, that’s the last straw for me.

          Believe you me, MJ, I know people have their reasons for choosing not to use their real names. I mean the list can be exhaustingly long, which is why I never ostracize anybody for using nicknames. I wanna learn from the exchange. Period.

          Again, I thank you for having an internal policy that you use when engaging. I wish others take heed from your approach. This forum could’ve been less headache for the moderators, too.

          • Metshaf Jigninet

            Selam Ustaz Bayan,

            I fully get your sentiment. The user ‘Peace toall’ threatened you indirectly twice from what I’ve seen. Unacceptable behaviour, no doubt.

          • Bayan Negash

            Selam MJ,

            It’s not even about the veiled and the not so veiled threats that worry me so much as the sheer stupidity of it all is what irks me. In this country, it won’t take much to track an individual down based on their digital imprints. A simple googling could produce the implication of threatening to do harm. Here is what it says:

            “Depending on the state, a criminal threat can be charged as either a misdemeanor or felony offense. While felony offenses are more serious than misdemeanors, either of them can result in incarceration, fines, and other penalties.”

            Now, imagine someone destroying his future by making a mere threat to do harm even when there may have not been intention to hurt. That’s what’s saddening. Imbeciles with mega computer and access to the Internet can make them feel invincible and thus could say whatever it is they want to say, not in the country of law and order like the US. Now, I don’t know if PTA lives here or not. I just hope he wises up quick and not make such threatening gestures.

    • Metshaf Jigninet

      Selam kbur haw Ustaz Ismail AA,

      It is a pleasure seeing you back. I wish you a speedy recovery.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Ismailo,

      Good to see you back. Hope everything is now okay. Will talk to you soon.

      Regard

    • said

      Selam Ismael AA,i hope all is well and wishing you speed recovery

      regard’s
      said

    • Burhan Ali

      Selamat Ustaz Ismail

      I am glad to see your name here again. I was all along asking myself if you were OK.
      now I dedicate from what I read that you were “Bi Afia” and hope that now you already have broken the evil. I hope to see more and more of you never to be absent.

  • Metshaf Jigninet

    Selam kbur haw Ustaz Ismael,

    Glad to see you back, and thank you for the article!

    “But the fact remains that the real time to celebrate isn’t when one faction prevails over another, but only when all factions prevail over their own egos and seek a common victory.”

    “The voices of factionalism, regionalism, sectarianism, need to be replaced with the voices of mutualism, bilateralism, inclusion and coexistence.”

    Beautifully said. 🙂

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Ismail,

    Thanks for this nice article! Your connections with Yohannes IV got me thinking about the many situational similarities. As the death of a powerful Tigrayan King Yohannes IV was not only opportune for the Italian expansion into the Abyssinian highlands, but also for the proclaiming of Eritrea as a colony under the Wuchale treaty [with the new emperor Minilik of Shoa]. The death of a Tigrayan strong man MZ similarly lead to the rise of a southern strong man PMAA. Here too, land issues (Amhara) and territorial issues (Eritrea) have been a similar power consolidation avenues for PMAA as wuchale was to Minilik. Although, he got the Eritrea border resolution right, the Amhara-Tigray were not very different than the way it would have been dealt with back then.

    As the Prophet, peace be upon him, taught however, we have responsibility not only to do good but also stop evil. The people in the upper deck needed to prevent those in the lower deck from burrowing the boat from under and causing it capsize. The teaching hints at a way out to the current situation our politics where one group allows others to dig holes into the boat flooring, so long as they don’t disturb/trouble us. In modern language, we are really talking about principles of justice, fairness and equality and when those are violated for some of us, they will ultimately be violated for all of us. Truth need not exist for anything else’ but its own sake, but falsehood is in service of evil and can’t stand by itself, let alone be a support.

    For a paradigm shift, so to speak, our politicians, intellectuals and populace at large needs to distinguish between what is right vs. what appears to be good. Because we are greedy by our very human nature, the latter (appearance of good) is almost always misleading. Thus, we need to seek the counsel of righteous wisdom in patience and with foresight.

    Thanks for your thought provoking entry here.

    • Mez

      Dear Haile TG,

      Please don’t mix-up religious concepts with contemporary political dynamics of tigray and the horn.
      This will simply add a layer of complexity.

      Thanks

      • haileTG

        Selam Mez,

        Actually, after giving up on all the flippant and hypocritical acrobatics by some here, I am seriously considering to go all religious.

        May the mighty Jesus bless you!

        • Abi

          ኃይልሽ
          My favorite bumper sticker reads
          “God, please protect us from your followers.”

          • haileTG

            Wendim Abichu,

            My prayers consists a simple and unchanging utterance “God, THANK YOU!”

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ አርከይ
            Your prayers are not complete if you don’t say “አሜን”.
            You need to practice your prayers.
            የማያዛልቅ ፀሎት ለቅስፈት!

          • Abi

            Selam moderator
            You got this one totally wrong.
            ቅስፈት apply only to God.
            It is a warning for people that God doesn’t tolerate practicing fake prayers that don’t come from the heart.

            We live to learn.

          • haileTG

            Hey Guad Abi,

            If your comment didn’t make it past the moderator, what’s the chance it will stand before God. Yqir ybelh.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            The person guarding the watchtower doesn’t seem to know the specific use of the term መቅሰፍት.
            አብሮ ይቅር ይበለን!
            አሜን በል ኃይልዬ:)

            The deleted part of my comment was a brotherly advise for you to say አሜን in your prayers.

          • haileTG

            Dear Abichu,

            Here is my candid advice, the people of Tigray are best to have them on your side than fighting them. Tigrayans work from the heart and fight from the heart. Confronting them is foolish and deadly. Take it or leave it.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            Thanks for your heartfelt advice.
            I strongly disagree!!
            I’ve been defending the people for Tigray from bigots and racists in this website. I always argued that Tplf doesn’t represent the people. I was ignorant and dumb at the highest level.
            All I need at this moment is to see them establish their own kingdom and live in peace as next door neighbors.

          • haileTG

            Yetekeberu guad Abi,

            When you’re angry, it is best not to make big decisions like that. The people of Tigray are innocent and subjected to senseless atrocity. They are the heroes of Ethiopia’s sustained economic miracle. The heroes of biher bhereseboch, the heroes of Ethiopia the peace keeping go to nation and GERD. Firm advocate of independent Eritrea ke ras qesar to ras dumera. If they had finished the EEBC they would have got 100%. Yetebelabet wechit (or wenchit…no idea) alemesebaber yishalal:-)

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            At this moment I’m angrier than a hungry honey badger:)
            የበሉበትን ወጭት ሰብረውታል::
            You are extremely generous grading ህወሃት:: You gave them a low “ A” grade. If they retake the EEBC test, the grade will definitely be A+!

            I gave them “F”.

          • haileTG

            Wendime Abi,

            PFDJ is a curse, make up with your Tigray brothers and sisters, Ethiopia’s future will be even brighter. You invited Eritrea’s curse, PFDJ, and look which way your wonderful country is heading. Enesu abarach yehagerachu selamna tesfa tadegu. Tell me who your friends are, I will tell who you are is an old Solomonic wisdom.

          • Abi

            ኃይልሽ
            I call you ኃይልሽ አርከይ for a reason:)

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam HaileTG ,

            Do you see what we are going through?

            Ras Abi defended the people of Tigray from bigots and racists but he found them guilty of a crime high enough to cost them their citizenship because, they fought back barbaric killers, rapists, and robbers.
            gud eyu

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            ጉድ ነው!!
            ዜግነት ሰጠሗችሁ እንጂ መች ነሳሗችሁ?

            Reports coming from the Kingdom of Tigray are saying that there are barbaric killings going on everywhere. No one seems to be interested in discussing this news.
            Of course, nobody heard about the news.

          • Admassie

            Selam Fanti Ghana,

            Absurdity is the fad of the day. And when the mentality of ግፋ በለው is (as Dr. Tsgaye Ararssa love to call it “ማህበረስባዊ ጦረኝነት”) is defeated fair and square, instead
            of accepting the defeat people rushed to be አፋርታም (to use Abiy Ahmed’s own word):-)) and call for another crime to happen.

            ከጦርነቱ በፊት የነበረውን የአብይን ጦር አውርድ ድንፋታ ከምናባዊ ጎረቤቱ ጋር በተደረገ ምናባዊ ወግ ሲገለጽ፦

            ከእለታት በአንዱ ቀን ላይ፡
            “ወዴት አልክሳ?” ቢለው ጎረቤት፣
            “ጠብን ፍለጋ” መለሰ ትዕቢት፣
            “የት ብታገኘው?” ድግሚያ ጠየቀ፣
            “አንተን በማነቅ” ብሎ ቧረቀ።

            እንዲሁ ሌላ ቀን፡
            “ወዴት አልክሳ?” ቢለው ጎረቤት፣
            “ጀንበር መጥለቂያ” መለሰ ትዕቢት፣
            “ምን እግር ወስዶህ?” ድግሚያ ጠየቀ፣
            “ጨለማ ክፋት” ብሎ ቧረቀ።

            ድጋሚ ሌላ ቀን ላይ፡
            “ወዴት አልክሳ?” ቢለው ጎረቤት፣
            “እሰማይ ጥጉ” መለሰ ትዕቢት፣
            “ምኑን ልታወርድ?” ድግሚያ ጠየቀ፣
            “የሲዖል ጥፋት” ብሎ ቧረቀ።

            በስተመጨረሻም፡
            “ይሰውረነ!!” አለ ጎረቤት፣
            “ከስላም ምህረት!!” መለሰ ትዕቢት።

  • Brhan

    Salam Alikum Sheikh Ismail

    One of your key messages is

    History will tell what the fate of Abiy Ahmed’s words will be. Would they find the same fate as Yohannes’s words, or would they become the candles of a brighter and peaceful future?

    Abiy Ahmed has not had any political will to solve problems internally or externally. He waged war against his Ethiopian people, the people of Tigray. No wonder about his actions of conflict with his neighbors. Together with Isayas Afeworki, he commits many evil things: war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide, which is crystal clear to the whole world, including Canada.

    Speaking of evil things,

    Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, “Whoever amongst you sees an evil, he must change it with his hand; if he is unable to do so, then with his tongue; and if he is unable to do so, then with his heart; and that is the weakest form of Faith.”

  • AMANIEL PAULOS

    Hello Awates,
    Shalom !
    Shalom !

    The Changes and the presentation are
    so good, appreciated and acceptable.
    That means from now onwards there
    will not be pen names or writting behind
    the covers of pen names.
    I like it so much !
    We will only be writting with our true names
    and addresses !
    Yes ! Yes ! Yes !!!
    A win again !!