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A Stalemate Breaks Down in The Arabian Gulf

Generally, when there is a national conflict, the people follow. Their salvation can only come from wise friends—but only if the antagonists are willing to listen, and only if their friends are not inflaming their passions. Sadly, the confrontation in the Arabian Gulf is happening in the worst time when a friend both sides would have been more likely to listen to, the United States, is presided by an inexperienced politician. And sadly, for Eritreans, when their country is presided over by a mercurial man who trades friends for foes at the drop of a Riyal. And this was developing long before the Arab Spring.

There was a season for the brief, somewhat spontaneous, Arab Spring of 2010-12; it was an expression of the people’s depravity, hopelessness, and lack of freedoms. At the time, the Middle East appeared to transcend its modern history of bad governance. And though the revolt brought hope of freedom and liberty, the ill-prepared societies could neither transition from the uprising to an era of normality peacefully nor manage it properly, with the exception of Tunisia. At the end, the hopes of the people were dashed as their expressions got hijacked by vested interests, adventurers, and right wing conservative forces.

Today, Libya is bleeding, Egypt is limping and Syria is digging its grave deeper, while Iraq is counting years of instability and squandering its resources, and Yemen is under rubble. There is no Spring in the region, it is always freezing cold or stifling heat: Saudi Arabia and Yemen are bogged down in a war of attrition whose prices the Yemenis are paying. And Eritrea is not very far from those fires; its people are anxious thinking about eerie surprises that tomorrow could be holding for them.

Recently, the confrontation between Saudi Arabia and Qatar, both predominantly Sunni Muslim countries, appears to have reached the breaking point. Though the two countries’ contest is not new, what is new is the phobia of Iran, a country with whom Qatar has healthy relations. In such a situation, the people of the region have a responsibility to take a stand, at least a moral position. And that is why we hope for cool heads to prevail, and for the Kuwaiti initiative to succeed in bridging the gap between their conflicting brethren before further damages are inflicted on the region. And this we believe is the position of all Eritrean opposition forces and civil societies.

We have our own misgivings on the governments of the region; unfortunately, the good intention and generosity of Qatar towards Eritrea has enabled the Eritrean leader to be emboldened. Eritreans wished for Qatar’s neutrality if not its siding with the oppressed Eritrean people. At the same time, they know the ungrateful nature of Isaias Afwerki and are not surprised by the actions he took against Qatar.

In this David vs Goliath confrontation, one would think that Eritrea would instinctively support Qatar, particularly since it was the only lifeline to the Eritrean dictator for almost a decade. Failing that, one would have expected that Eritrea would have taken the admirable positions taken by Somalia, Sudan and Ethiopia: neutrality. Instead, the Eritrean regime issued a statement expressing its support for the strangulation of Qatar.

Now, we are apprehensive again because the Qatari sponsorship is being replaced by UAE and Saudi sponsorship and soon they will face the same ungrateful reaction.

Isaias Afwerki has betrayed the Qataris after they sponsored him for too long, and Eritreans have nothing to do with his ungratefulness and adventurous politics. They just wish Saudi Arabian and Emirati authorities would learn from the experience of Qatar in dealing with the Eritrean dictator.

Terrorism

The world knows that the most notorious terrorist organization are from the region, and as such people cannot act as if they are not produced (or funded) by the region and its strand of Islam that needs to be tamed. There is an urgent need for Islam’s heritage and curriculum to be revised, the Islamic fiqh (laws) to be standardized and codified, and the imposed new class of clergy that Islam doesn’t condone, to have its nails clipped. Having said that, it is obvious there are many qualified scholars who can address (and are) such issues, but in passing, we wanted to emphasize its importance.

Qatari Mediation Between Eritrea and Djibouti

While some progress was made in the mediation effort—resulting in, for example, the release of Djibouti prisoners of war in 2016—there has been, surprisingly, little progress in the demarcation of their common border.   Surprising because the border is only 125 km, with even smaller disputed area (Ras Doumeira.)

After both Djibouti and Eritrea expressed their support for Saudi Arabia, Qatar abruptly pulled its peacekeepers. The next day, according to Djibouti, Eritrea deployed its troops to the vacated area which, if true, would be a violation of UN Resolution 1862 of January 2009.

The last thing the area needs is more militarization. A few miles North, in Asab, Eritrea, is the new base of the United Arab Emirates. Across the Red Sea, in Yemen, is a civil war that has been raging for two years, a war that the UAE is using Eritrean land to wage. Sudan has a long-running civil war; South Sudan has a bloody war waged by two war lords that has resulted in the displacement of more than a quarter of the population. Ethiopia has an uneasy peace and is being managed by state of emergencies and periodic flare ups; and Somalia has been, though recovering, traumatized by its quarter-century long civil war. Puntland and Somaliland are both providing a military base to the UAE and Djibouti hosts the military of at least three countries (France, US and China.)

As tense as the Eritrea-Djibouti standoff is, it could get even worse if it assumes an Africa vs Arab World dimension (since Djibouti is a member of the Arab League.) Admirably, the African Union has expressed its interest in defusing the tension by sending a fact-finding mission, an effort that may be pre-empted by the UN Security Council which intends to make it part of its agenda in its meeting on Monday.

Ironically, the Eritrean regime—whose 2009 sanction was based on the finding that it supported Somali armed groups and refused to acknowledge its conflict with Djibouti—was hoping that the sanctions would be lifted later this year since the Somalia-Eritrea Monitoring Group had reported Eritrea is no longer support Somali armed groups and it has acknowledged its dispute with Djibouti and has engaged Qatar.

The Side Effects

There will be many intended and unintended consequences to this conflict that has already drawn Iran, Turkey and, soon, Russia to the orbit. For our purposes, our focus will be on Eritrea.

In 2010, following the Eritrea-Djibouti skirmish of June 2008, Qatar offered to be a mediator, an offer that was accepted by both countries, who agreed to have Qatari peacekeepers.

With Qatar gone, and the status of the Eritrea-Djibouti mediation agreement is in limbo, and with Djibouti claiming it has evidence that Eritrea has occupied disputed territories, the UN is likely to find Eritrea in violation of an earlier resolution: Resolution 1862 demanding that Eritrea withdraw from the disputed territories within 5 weeks. Those 5 weeks lapsed in March 2009.

If history is a predictor of the behavior of Isaias Afwerki, he will learn nothing from history: he won’t agree to the African Union fact-finding mission, and will accuse Djibouti of accusing Eritrea first for its own behavior. At moments like this, when the world is looking for any political actor who will be a counterweight to PFDJ’s recklessness, the absence of an organized and articulate Eritrean opposition party becomes more glaring.

The stalemate has broken down in the Gulf and its effects are being felt in the Red Sea.

References

Eritrea-Djibouti Mediation Agreement
UN Resolution 1862 Demanding Eritrea Redeploy Its Troops
Eritrea Releases Djibouti Prisoners of War

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  • Nitricc

    Hi All, i think you people need to chill with African got talent. forget American talent. Those moves are amazing and simple, no light effects, no fancy buildings just natural.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFtOOh47oo

  • Thomas

    Hi Berhe,

    How about getting what you are asking done by the weyanes, as the retired general Tsadkan stated? It will be easy because we will not end up becoming like the Syrians, Egyptians and the Libyans. The Sawa trained kids won’t mind joining the army coming from across the border. The UN will then intervene and we will get a transitional government and then our people will get to elect their own government for the first time in their history. The wayanes won’t be bothered by the G-7, the oromos and other Issayas trained groups. Also, the tigrean people will get to use our ports of Massawa and Assab: No more no war no peace situations. It is a win win situation and is a deal breaker. How about that?

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Thomas,

      You have to ask, what’s in it for them. And when that happened, do you think they will just hand you over and walk away? And who is going to take over after that? A good example, is when the British defeated the Italians (the surrendered) and the British administration took over the country. The left the Italian administration in place and they stayed for 10 years.

      Eritreans did not have well organized political group (even lucky we didn’t have an armed group) to navigate the post Italian era, add to that the Ethiopian interference etc… The reason why we ended up divided… So if you think the current Eritrean opposition group is in mess, wait when you see post Isayas.

      And will Isayas and his group will just surrender? If you see the example Iraq, Syria, Lybia and others who went through change by force, even Somalia (when the US intervened), the Isayas group will not leave quietly (where are they going to go)…

      What guarantee do you have say, plant a bomb and explode Asmara key areas and blame it on “Weyane”… What grantee to do you have the “Weyane” don’t make a mistake and target civilians and civilian infrastructure.

      All good reason for Isayas group to garnish support and people to their side and eventually will have a civil war.

      Did “Weyane” brought peace and stability in Somalia after the invaded and get rid of Islamic Courts. that’s 12 years ago now..

      The only grantee we will have for peaceful transition is when the people get together and court their destiny and see what life would look like after the PFDJ is gone.

      Berhe

      • Thomas

        Hi Berhe hawina,

        Last time you and I brought the same topic discussion, you ended the discussion by state, “lets agree to disagree”. Pardon me I agree, “we need to agree to disagree” on this topic:)

    • Nitricc

      Hi Thomas, I think you are more dumber that I thought. Your slothfulness grapping me through the screen. do you have any bone, courage and self respect? I am glad you are Ethiopian.
      so want give your tigryan people Assab and Massawa. one Hayat is enough.

      • Thomas

        Hi Nitricc,

        I have been reading people using all kinds of worst adjectives trying to describe you, but you just cannot stop making a fool of yourself. Look I am quoting myself from my above posting, “Also, the tigrean people will get to use our ports of Massawa and Assab” and because you cannot comprehend what I wrote there, here comes your response as ” I am glad you are Ethiopian. so want give your tigryan people Assab and Massawa.”. Remember, It is clear what I said was for the tigreans to use our port of Massawa and Asab. I know just like the lady called Sofia Tesfamariam ghosts like yourself came to learn about the Eritrea and Eritreans. Now, I am generous and don’t mind enlightening you a bit. Before the badme war port of Massawa was very busy not because it was providing services to its owner, but to the tigreans. Also, the same thing with the port of Assab was busy with lots of shipments docked heading to Addis and the rest of Ethiopia. I am stating the same thing here. Can you please for the first time try to understand what we teach here? Trust me, try it won’t be that hard.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Thomas, you don’t get it, do you? if you have said the Ethiopian people, it would have been clear you mean but when you single out and use Tigryans, it is not that hard to know what you mean.
          The port will be open to all Ethiopians not just the Tigryans. Are you half Tigryan or something? nothing wrong, I am just asking.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            If you don’t mind asking you, are you one of the Alula breed? Can your father provide his family tree? Remember, Alula’s left over in Eritrea are causing all the problems in Eritrea. Because of their identity crises and so as to hide themselves behind nationality, they are trying to look more nationalists than the rest of the original Eritreans. I am guaranteeing you that you are Eritreans, you have stayed in Eritrea for more than 40 years. It is in our constitution, your all are Eritreans by naturalization:) Your relatives and you must know this, give the Eritrea people a break, give us a break!!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Thomas, I know it is Friday but you are not drinking are you? Aren’t you the one who wanted the stinky TPLF to invade Eritrea? Aren’t you the one who wanted to give Assab and Mossawa to the tigryans? Eritreansim is defined by genetics not constitution. You could be an Eritrean by constitution but I am by genetics and DNA. that is the difference between you me. if not why do I care about the country I don’t know more than you, who supposedly lived and grow-up in Eritrea. Did you see the difference? Think for your self; oh never mine, you can’t.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            So, you just reversed the something I wrong and geared that towards me, right. Tigrigna adage is “Eti naten si nihamaten”. I told you that your father could be an Eritrean national by naturalization and you are telling that I am one. Anyways, it is ok like I said he needs to tell you his family tree and the village where they come from, then I am sure you will find the Alula family filling right there. I am again telling you, it is ok our constitution which is the low of the land lets you to become a citizen by naturalization. However, we have learned a lesson through the hard way that the alula family will never be elected a the president of our nation anytime in the future. It is a heard lesson we get to learn from you ancestors, I am sorry to tell you this.

  • Nitricc

    Hey Berhe; Are you sure that you are from Africa? Do you know what kind of life other African leaders family live? Why do you people lose objectivity when it comes to the president? Now, I don’t how PIA’s son lives or what he owns but if what you had listed is true, then everyone should be happy for the corruption free Eritrea. I doubt your take about his son but last time I heard in ESAT someone was saying that PIA’s son is a colonel rank a member of Eritrean Air force and he lives ordinary life style. However; still what you have listed I wouldn’t consider it as benefit.
    Regarding the money you mention, again you are losing your objectivity. How do you that money belongs To PIA? let’s say that is his money, they man is 70 years old, what good is that money going to do him while he is eating dust at adi hallo? I mean don’t you think a little different from what is the gossip?
    in my opinion the money it could belong to many Arabs that bought Eritrean passport throughout Middle east. I just don’t see any Eritrean could have such money amount. This country just existed 26 years ago and ever since being at war, buying all those weapons, fighting all sanctions, under those conditions no one could embezzle that kind of many. Sometimes you got to think for yourself. So, like I have said I don’t think PIA going to do that but if he does, so be it. as long as the nation is protected and peaceful? I can roll with it.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Nitricc,

      You accept it I don’t. I think if you go visit for your self, then you will have some idea.

      I would care less if he let the people live their lives the way they wanted it.

      When you compare other corrupt African countries, you should also consider what they are doing to their people

      As to the swiss bank, no body knows who it belongs to but to an ERITREAN.

      The only way to confirm otherwise is,

      A) Eritrea make a statement and refute
      B) have an audited account of the government books.

      Berhe

      • Nitricc

        Hey Berhe, all I did was appealing to your intelligence. Eritrea existed 26 years, how many wars, how many fighter jets, Migs, tanks, 300000 K standing armies and you name it. All I am saying is there is no way any one can embezzle that kind of many with relatively short time and extreme hardship. So, all I want you to is think for your self.
        I guess you have not seen how the African leaders children live in the US and UK. one day you will understand it what I mean. I am wondering what African leaders are doing to their people. well, killing them comes to mind, rob them broad day light comes to mind. I know you believe in high rising buildings so, you win. Do we stop thinking…..

  • wedi afom nlewTi

    hi Tom

    The sources indicate is he’s looking for a transition figure, one that is acceptable to the majority of the Eritrean people. we need to be a little bit more optmistic.

    Blessings

  • Kalihari Snake

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  • Saba

    Selamat opposition
    While HA is criticizing the Eritrean ghedli, the opposition is also criticizing the core of the Eritrean identity. Criticism based on facts is important and educational but it is worthless if it is based on double standards, double think, doublespeak or based on a hidden agenda.
    Many Eritreans believe that they can’t unite to challenge IA until the border is demarcated, for fear of losing the country itself. I know you, the opposition, find it a stupid idea but that is what the ordinary people think. They can’t trust TPLF like you do. IA took advantage of this and has kept his grip of power. once the border is demarcated Eritreans will be united and demand reforms. Just remember what questions were asked in the period between 1996-1998 and IA was losing it.
    The opposition has told us many times that we should first demand reforms and then the democratically elected government will deal with the border issue. After all the people are more important than the land. Whatever land we get will be enough. In the meantime let’s hang out with TPLF. Well, Eritreans did not listen.
    Do you still have the photos with PMMZ?
    What was again your justification to
    1) why you were/are having meetings with TPLF while TPLF is occupying Eritrean territories?
    2) why you are not demanding for demarcation in your meeting with TPLF?
    Sorry, like many Eritreans, i keep forget about your explanations .

    • Kalihari Snake

      Hi Saba. You are 100% correct! Opposition parties will continue to have problems in gaining mass attraction which is required to effect change in so long as they are seen as in cahoots with the T-TPLF and wish to dismiss the border issue. The shame of it all is that Ethiopia has been given a Non-Permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council while it continues to illegally occupy Eritrea and remains in a self-declared State of Emergency. The U.N is a complete joke in its current state.

    • blink

      Dear Saba
      I think isaias can be challenged on all fronts , first he has nothing to show. He had been in power for 26 years, he destroyed the Eritreans aspirations for justice , he debunked the people’s Hope, he in prisoned people for doing their job , his policies are anti public interest, his way of communication is erratic, he lived over justice most damaging he destroyed Eritrea, the list is endless.

      The opposition has one problem that is they lost focus of their Target. Once you lose your target there is no way you can find a reason for a commanding position to overthrow Isaias. The public is looking at a very lousy picture of opposition which they can’t trusted. I have been opposing the one man show for 10 years yet I will lose hope . The stakes are to high , the man must go yet I don’t think weyane are our partners in this. But you have to ask yourself this , is this the dream you dreamed for Eritreans? The man keeps old in prison and throw young to Libyian desert , destroying our way of live… the list is just too much to type.

      How do you remember Eritreans heroes dream of Eritrea????

  • Daniel Joseph

    The notorious man of the horn will not cease to create problems as usual the panacea for this kind of disease is remove it surgically but the doctor
    who could do it is Ethiopia at the same
    time,they can continue advancing their
    progress.

  • MS

    Dear All
    Hayat in a nutshell
    1. Hayat has no original ideas, smear campaigns practiced by her hero king Alula, HS, Menguistu, and the carriers of those old views.
    2. hayat has an acute identity crisis; she is not going to come out, because she does not exist in the “person” she tells us she upholds. She disdains everything Eritrean. Her hate is not just political it is more than that. I always debated her in that respect, I wanted her to be around because I thought her views were just political, and I didn’t have a problem with someone who seemed to air d different political viewpoint. But recently she deteriorated so fast to the point of annoying the gentlest of persons around here. She joined those who are busy to widen the social faults of Eritreans (Muslims/Christians; Highland/Lowlands, etc.)
    3. Arrogance:
    a/ She has developed the temerity to consider us as a laboratory subjects, practicing her Frankenstein science on us; psychoanalyzing Eritreans, telling us that what we thought was right was in fact wrong, and what we experienced of the barbaric atrocities of Ethiopian regimes were just mere psychosis.
    b/ While she drags this forum to past history in order to get us to erase our memories of her barbaric heroes, when we come to defend the dignity of Eritrea and Eritreans, she hits us back accusing us of talking of the past . She tells us how psychologically deformed we are, how Eritrean identity is a make of the Arabs, etc. She does that in part because she believes it (she is a student of time gone-by) and in part, she does it in order to whitewash past atrocities of Ethiopian regimes. If she succeeds in influencing us to forget those breaches and atrocities, she has done her job. The next step is to tell us “Since there were no reasons for you guys to rebel, ghedli was an alien idea.” It’s mindbogglingly arrogant. It’s akin to a raper telling his victim, that was an act of love.
    b/ She tell us ghedli was an alien idea. She would be correct if she said ghedli was alien to her. If A is alien to be, then B is logically alien to A. If Hayat is alien to ghedli, then it is only natural that ghedli is alien to her. But to tell Eritreans, who triggered the ghedli, nurtured, and carried it on to victory, for thirty years, they were wrong to consider ghedli as their own is just too arrogant.
    4. Hayat is for a narrow interest. You hear her talking about grand ideas such as regional integration. I was sort of deceived on that part. i really thought she lacked information about the past (cause/effect of Eritrean struggle, and the independence of Eritrea…) but she wants to promote the idea of regional integration. I’m not against that idea and I appreciated the hymns of regional cooperation. But when you study her views, she percolate her feeds with such phrases, however, the true color of Hayat is one of a colonialist and hegemony.
    a/ Politically, she does it to resurrect Tigray’s golden era of emperor Yohannes and Alula, where Eritreans remain subservient of Tigray lords. her headache is apparent whenever a comment that depicts or promotes an assertive Eritrea comes up. She is a student of a time long gone. It is a colonialist mindset, to subjugate the will of people to be free, that they don’t know what’s good for them, etc.
    b/ Culturally, it is a colonialist mindset when you reduce the people of Ethiopia and Eritrea to Habashanism. At least in Eritrea, our Habesha heritage makes up about 50%, and we are proud of it. However, in Ethiopia, it makes only about 1/3 of the population. Yet Hayat speaks of Ethiopia as a Habesha land. There is an easy way Hayat of putting this thing: we certainly need to promote peace and stability among peoples in the region. ERitrea has cultural relation with Ethiopia, it also has cultural relations with Sudan and Egypt and a long historical and cultural relations with the greater Middle East. Therefore the cultural aspect if only one out of many connecting threads. Yes, peaceful neighborliness is good, but that should never be done at the expense of Eritrea. Your zero-sum plan heads no way.
    5. Lastly, you told us that you would come back to tell us some atrocities committed by Ethiopian regimes. I’m waiting. I don’t forget Hayat.
    6. Hayat and Co. have actually hurt the struggle for a positive change. They have not produced anything towards the current struggle for a positive change. While Eritreans want to discuss current issues, folks like Hayat have been busy telling us that unless we redeem ourselves by dismissing our liberation struggle, we would not be able to figure out how to solve current problems. While many are working to save our nation, Hayat and Co. are busy figuring out how best they could use the opportunity to sneak in and strangulate our nation to death. She has not produced anything positive in regard to the current discourse about Eritrean politics. It is apparent from her comments that she has little knowledge about Eritrean culture and history. Yet she has the temerity to tell Emma he is not updated!!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mahmuday,

      The ghedli that surprise the world for its perseverance, sacrifice, dedication for the cause of the Eritrean people – a cause against all odds, can not and should not be degraded by unknown ghosts in front of our eyes. Our ghedli was the instrument of our success not to the Eritrean cause only but also to the Ethiopian people’s cause. Hsyat is understood lately that she is here with something – a project to create rifts along religious lines within our society by characterizing our ghedli as ghedli of the the Muslims and Arabs.

      Second Hayat has not a gut to write about the Atrocities of HS and Derg on our people, but has the audacity to talk about the shortcoming of our ghedli with full lies. Not even questioned her feeders of lies when she is told. but then why not if it serves for her “project” in the chaos of our politics.

      Third, her followers see her as a philosopher of social engineering that knows about cost-benefit analysis of social project of revolutionary movements. But she was asked to give us the cost benefit analysis of the current struggle to no avail. Let alone she to have original ideas, she has not clue what ghedli entails, its environments and its internal struggle for its survival within the struggle. So just let us know only that she is her to create division among us and, knowing that, we must confront her vigilantly when we engage her by exposing her lies.

      Regards

      • michelda

        Hi Amanuel

        The problem is not her but the fact that the Eritrean independence movement was started on falsehood, exaggerated claims, ill thought out ideas, unrealistic expectations, uncertain social
        Contract and Historical negationism or denialism. In addition the dead culture and never ending sacrifice it brought with It is extremely toxic for the population and normal life. Hayet is merely pointing out to you the emperor have no cloth.

        Its also a very important exercise for Eritreans to distance themselves or put the struggle for independence in the right context, If you are going to have a healthy, peaceful Eritrea in the future. If thats is ever possible…

        By the way, what did you guys though was going to happen when you started the war against Ethiopia? They were going to throw banana at you while you shoot at them??

        • blink

          Dear Michael
          I heard the same narrative from many Ethiopians who missed the old Dergi and Haile time.

          Our revolution was the best way to kick Ethiopia from Eritrea.

          • michelda

            Dear blink

            You see you ended up losing big for little gained. You lost access to Ethiopian markets and resources, Ethiopia as a living space, port revenue…ect. In return what you got is a deeply divided poor country, with 9 ethic groups who have nothing in common or who have more in common with their cousin in Ethiopia and sudan.
            Oh I forgot and a nice flage. ..lol

          • blink

            Dear Michael
            I have a different view on the Market and ports thing.
            I firmly believe that Eritrea does not need Ethiopia to care its own weight ,if the market is being given under arm twisting. Eritrea doesn’t need the Ethiopian customers to sell “beles” ,

            Our main problem is the one man show of administrating it. Allow me to say many ifs. If the sadistic dictator has been nice on how to solve disagreements with his country men , give justice, respect our way of live, . I can guarantee you that Eritreans are not power hungry as some . We were not just lucky enough to know him and oppose him in a proper way. The man strives on our way of framing him and explaining our image.

          • michelda

            Dear blink

            Blaming isais Aforki only is very lazy cap out. He is not the source of the problem. If anything he is just as much a victim of Eritrean identity as eritrea is a victim of him and his camarads.

            Like it or not he is the only thing holding Eritrea together by extreme means. With out him Eritrea has no center of gravity.

            As for the economy, eritrea allways had a nanny. Be it the Italians, the British or Ethiopians. It simply not a viable place with out external support.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear michelda,
          This is reckless and incoherent generalization of big terms. I wonder whether Hayat will agree with you.

    • Hayat Adem

      My two big brothers, Emma and Mahmuday,
      It looks like there is a concerted effort from yourside to promote me as the biggest enemy of ghedli just because I said few things about it. Not really fair! Two guys who had shot at each other long ago are now shooting back to back at every direction in the hope of spraying bullets at the ghost. Strange fellows! If the entire Sahel/Eritrea was not bug enough to accomodiate both of you, it is highly likely Awate Cloud Space may as well be not enough. So if the past is the teacher, you will surely turn against each other, maybe sooner than later. It is the culture of liquidation stupid! For now both of you are firing at Hayat.
      Well, I am at least not in a mood to follow you to the mud tiday but I am taking notes. It is the same culture of ganging up to silence by all means. It used to be done by assassinating the creature back then in meidda. Now it is by assassinating the character. Well, Hayat is here and she doesn’t like to lie, shy or cry.
      I will do my part to expose IA and Pfdj’s crimes. There is no more urgent priority to me. And to the extent ghedli has lent us to this situation, Eplf and Elf will also feature in my comments. And yes as far as I can see, the future is about cooperation and rapprochement and not about confrontations and running away from oneself to no where. In all the three cases, you guys will have to unlearn some of your past things to be more effective and relevant. There is no enough energy to stop an idea whose time has come.

      • MS

        Selam Hayat
        The rule of engagement: If you don’t have what it takes, don’t start the provocation. If you have what it takes, then don’t complain. As far as I know, there is preferential treatment or affirmative action in this forum. I’m using your stated positions, or observations that could be inferred from them.
        Ghedli and its place in Eritrean psyche is way bigger than you. It’s just that you are diverting our attention. That’s all. We are forced to respond to your made-up wild assertions and allegations about Eritreans and Eritrea.
        Emma &Me: We will have differences but we don’t whine about them. We fight them out and the next day we give each other a courtesy call. When you try to advance weird views in this forum, it becomes cool and you expect us to accept them as something protected under free speech. But when Emma and me differ, you portray it as shooting at each other!! Double standard at work, my dear. So, if you consider debates as a shooting spree, you have already peppered us with bullets.
        Anyway, any progress on your dossier of past Ethiopian regimes. That’s what you promised us. I don’t forget.

        • Hayat Adem

          Mahmuday,
          I think this coming from you must be about something else than it appears. You must have sensed the panic button in the PFDJ quarter. And you thought you need to stir smokes and dusts to create a diversion. I am not complaining at all but I was done with it and after the honorable SGJ intervened. But you are pulling me back and you are accusing me of provoking you at the same time.
          Noted!

          • MS

            Ahlan Hayat
            PFDJ? Don’t worry about them, Gen. NIt is on his way to carry out a surgical operation…
            Coming back to you, though, you said “I am not complaining at all but I was done with it and after the honorable SGJ intervened.”
            Really? SGJ corrected you on your made up assertions and accusations. He gave you a concise lesson on Eritrea. He showed you indirectly that you did not really know the stories and places you were mentioning (look up the misspelling and misplacement of big towns…), etc. He did not ask you to stop bringing an exhibit list of Ethiopian BARBARIC crimes that you had told us you would do. He asked you not to take us back to your favorite ghedli-bashing exercise (an area you have no clue about excepting importing lies from known anti-ERitrea elements). Don’t ride on the back of others. Bring your own original ideas, and it should start with fulfilling your promise that you would list Ethiopian regimes’ crimes. I don’t have a short term memory problem. That was your promise. I’m here.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            I have never thought Hayat will lie, and never crossed my mind. Anyway, there is always redemption, You could have redemption by saying I am sorry I had wrong feeds, and made me to lie. But you have no the courage to say it as you haven’t the courage to keep the unity of your identity, and that is “your physical and your thoughts”. Your thoughts are alien to the real who you are but are outsourced to the ghost known as Hayat. Anyway there is no way to instill you courage while you are hidden.

            Back to the issue: (a) You promised to give us an account on the atrocities of our people by HS and Derg. We expect your expertise to make cost-benefit on the current struggle against DIA, though your prior arguments indirectly strengthen the political life line of Issayas and his PFDJ. That put me in doubt that you will come with your promises. Are you still on your promises? I want to see what you up to, after criticizing, albeit with lies, to the successful project of the Eritrean people. We want to see if you have any trust left on the Eritrean people.

            Second MS and me have not any difference on the cause of our struggle and the aspiration of our people. Our differences is only on how to tackle the current problem, and those are normal in politics.

            Regards

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Emma,
            You said: “I have never thought Hayat will lie, and never crossed my mind.” I’m sure you hadn’t formed this thought out of nothing. You must have thought so because you never saw me lying. You will never see me lying. But I don’t feel good saying the word itself even in defense of my character.
            Mahmuday is now a wounded animal. I can understand why he feels pained by what I say here. He thinks his pride and psyche is tied to the PFDJ narrative. He feels threatened by anything that shutters that narrative. He is dogged. His memory connected to the politicawi timhrti of the EPLF.
            Your problems comes from total misunderstanding.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            Let me give you again samples of your lies in order to defile the cause of our struggle. In your allegation for examples you have said

            (a) ELF withdrew to Sahel in 1978, and during the withdrawal ELF and EPLF clashed each other at Adobha (Sahel area) and ELF lost one brigade. This is a white lie. ELF did not withdraw to Sahel during the push by Derg in 1978. And ELF & EPLF didn’t fight each other at Adobha in 1978.

            Second, SGJ gave you a long explanations about your claim that was absolutely lie. So Hayat I will not go to each of your claim to disprove it. You did not admit your mistakes. And as far as you decline to admit them, they will be considered lies and you will be considered a lair however you dislike the word. If you dislike the word don’t lie to disprove the cause of our struggle. when you engage to something you don’t know, you fall in to the Belabelow of gossips and innuendos and you will be trapped in to the network of lairs. So I am not blackmailing you I am telling that your exactly that your words are lies. There is two choices for you either to continue your lies or admit and redeem whatever left from your credibilities.

          • Hayat Adem

            Emma,
            I always think your problems, most of them come from misunderstanding. You will have to work hard to conquer ideas in their meant size but at least, I can help you with this one. First, simplistic definitions of words:
            “To lie” is to give false statement intentionally. The adv, “intentionally” is the qualifier here. Mistakes and misstatements are not lies for they don’t carry preconceived intentions of advancing wrong info on purpose to manipulate opinions. All lies are incorrect but all incorrect statements are not lies.
            Now, I could have made a mistake but my intention of advancing mistaken reports can only be errors, not lies. Yes, errors are to be regretted and rectified as well, but lies are to be condemned and despised. They are two different things. Intention is the operative word here. The easiest way to understand this is to think of this: Everyone makes mistakes; not everyone lies.
            Now, when I spoke of the retreat to Sahel and the fighting at Adobha, are my reports correct? I couldn’t be sure about the accuracy of those two accounts anymore. Why, because you told me and I think you have a reason to challenge those accounts. For the others such as the misnamed village or unidentified village, SGJ alerted me. I have no reason to doubt his accounts nor yours.. because I assume you’d know more details about these events than me. That is why I clearly and without hesitation said then, “I will check and adjust my data.” That is in case the sources I used are flawed and consequently I wrongly depended on them to make those assertions.
            What was those assertions: Semere T insisted on bringing examples of crimes committed during ghedli. So, I was presenting some of those I knew, heard or read. So, crimes like those were really too many to count and list, and I need not create lies to make those points. That means, the intention of advancing false statement was not there. The only sin here would I might have made an error (possibly) on those two accounts. This is only there is difference between what I said and what you know. And by second thinking my version, I am doing the wisest thing: considering yours and SGJ’s accounts to be true. If you think about it, this is commendable. I shouldn’t be blindly married to my version. I am open to be corrected. How many awatistas do often observe doing that here?!
            Now, to the final point: where did I bring those infos from? I didn’t create for sure. I didn’t collect them from hearsay or a propaganda material. I have found them from a well researched written material and a well respected published historian at that. You can always ask me the materials I brought those infos and inferences from and I will happily present them whenever I have them, specially when they are taken from a written book such as this one.
            The two issues you picked are really inconsequential in their significance to the central point I was trying to make. Why does it matter if ELF and EPLF fought against each other at Sahel or at another place. The fact that they devoured each other is a fact and well known. Why would I choose Adobha to make that point? There is no reason, at all. If it is not Adobha, it is somewhere else. So, it was obvious, if you sensed some thing that didn’t fit your memory of the events, it could have occurred to you as a simple error, or you could ask for my sources and where I get them from. Or you could simply state what you know like what SGJ did and leave it to me and others to pick them or leave them.
            I’m writing all this to drive one point home. The word lying or liar are very heavy and loaded words. They point to a character. People should refrain from using them carelessly. It is really deeply disturbing grown up men accusing serious people like me of lying. I cannot tolerate that anymore. I wish the awatista guideline finds a way to really contain such SIDINET. Calling some one a liar without proper verification that warrant such a loaded characterization unbelievably repulsive to people like me. You can not call a name and get away with that. It is becoming a culture. I have never volunteered against you and Mahmuday, I don’t remember using against anyone. There have been many instances where I see contradictions and double talks, but unless I am sure about proving the driving intentions, I tend not to use that. And imagine how much restraint I am applying on myself when people throw that word against me so carelessly and maliciously. I think people who use it so frequently are trained at hearing it and acting it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            You want me to prove the intention of a 👻 ghost who is not known to the public? Really! No Hayat. Be real person and act like real person. If you don’t like the word don’t lie. Let me go to another lies you said about me. I did not claim to to have a pedagogy background but you accused as If I said. I did not claim that I have expertise on government and governmental system. You accused me as I have claimed. Isn’t this character assasination? So you will ask me to prove your intention whether the above of your accusation is for character assasination? Wow Hayat, I wish you are real person that I know you, to prove your intention in the court. Now do not be stupid and make it worse. Withdraw from such foolish futile political journey.
            ዝአኽለን ጢሒነንሲ በአለማርያም ይብላ እዩ ናትኪ ነገር::

          • Hayat Adem

            Ah..Emma,
            This has become dialogue of the deaf literally. I was trying help you and you are unhelpable. I think part of it is language and part of comprehension. And your learning brain room is locked. And I guess the key to access that part of you is thrown away somewhere in the vastness and it seems capturing simple defnition of a word is becoming a challenge.
            Emma, I am sorry but you are made of glass. You are breakable. So don’t say much to regret them later.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            In fact, you are the person you need to learn and not me. You are talking something you don’t know about Eritrean revolution. And you are not open to learn even when you are told your falsehood. Now when you are exposed your naked lies, you want to turn it in to a language competition. Isn’t it Hayat? Stop this foolish megalomanic behavior. Your ghost character can not scare me nor does it stops me from defending the patriotic character of Eritrean people from lairs like you. You get it? If you have the courage to count on you, you start to submit yourself to the public domain with full disclosure. Then we will see your courage on the views you hold to convince our public. Otherwise as an Eritrean and if you are female for that matter (if you are at all, no matter how doubtful I am) can not and should not undermine cause as worthless social project, and worse to it, after our success against the odds. Ezi wedehanki.

          • Hayat Adem

            Emma,
            Embaar nab qiluE tSerfi abilka Hadafitu.. Entai emo kibiliye.. miHret yewrid!
            What revolution? Are you still waging a revolution? aAshas Hade derfu! The revolution that consumed your bitsot.. the revolution that spit you and comrades from mieda to Sudan.. the revolution that is keeping you in exile.. the revolution that still is getting our youth running away in every direction.. the revolution that gave us IA PFDJ.. the revolution that got us here.. you are talking about a revolution that is crushing the country as we watch.. wedajje revolution!!! It seems you have run out of gas, my friend! Try me with something else!

      • Graviton

        Peace new?

        Classic case of the old maxim “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser”. You shouldn’t be surprised for coming at you like that, its the only thing they have left, and for that they would leave no stone un-turned to quash any alternate narrative.

        • blink

          Dear Graviton
          I wonder how deep you know Eritreans aspirations and the sheer determination they paid to throw out Ethiopians. Let me tell you man , you guys are not fit to defame Eritrea because I can see your heads are still wet from the womb. Hayat is known for making outlandish claims like
          A. Making new villages in Eritrea in her own list
          B. She fabricated numbers
          C. She fabricated dates

          Here list was all lies and the one profession I can see from her in this forum is just that and only that “make lies “

          • Hayat Adem

            Blink,
            I offered you a challenge a couple of months ago. I asked to come up of anything that you thought needed to be substantiated by me and we would see if it can be substantiated. I remember asking you to bring your best case on that -your best case because we can’t afford revisiting all those bulky contents we covered over the years discourse and feeds. You brought those money figures and I gave you all the evidence you thought were not there. I even asked to go for your 2nd chance. You didn’t and I thought you had your lips shut for ever as far as these claims of yours. Now, you are recycling them. So I will recycle the offer for the 2nd round. Tell me before our esteemed awatista what you think is an outlandish claim from me over the years (don’t repeat those settled in the past); bring just one that you think will prove your point and if I fail to provide evidence for it, you win. If I bring evidence, you should call it a day and stop your cheap talks here. Take that deal and bring on your case, otherwise refrain from repeating such stuff over and over. I hate people in the habit of whispering stuff whenever they think they see an opportunity.
            You have other bigger points. For example, you said you hate and reject Habesha. That is quite a position that needs discussion. You also said you wanted Eritrea to relate itself to Sudan than Ethiopia. That is another take that needs a lot of explanation. You said one time that Eritrea doesn’t need Ethiopia to develop. What does that mean? In any development configurations every small market is to be won; every small economy is to be sought for advantage maximization let alone Ethiopia. It is an acknowledged fact that Ethiopia and Eritrea are so interdependent in every sense. I don’t see your views as reason based. I think your views are highly influenced by hate lending to a depth of recklessness. You can only be that fixated when you only listen to your own agony. No one suffers from such personalized pains if one cares for the objective reality, for the general public and the greater good. I see you as a suffering person from putting your personal pains and hate at the center of every political equation. If you could take your self out of that, you may see things more accurately for what they are and for what you want them to be; you would see possibilities that work for the greater good not for the greater self pain.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            “Let me tell you man , you guys are not fit to defame Eritrea ”

            What? are you serious? why would we do that? Wedi afoam is doing a superb job on that. Call him a “master destroyer” if you will. We just send him a letter of appreciation to keep his energy.

        • Hayat Adem

          Yes Graviton,
          Mahmuday is at it. Little does he know how much it takes to silence me. The only one thing that would silence me is when and if I feel other better and clean voices are filling the air. His is part of the pollution – in the past and now. I know what got him hurt and I’ll be upping them to give him more dosage.

          • Graviton

            Peace new Hayat?

            Fantastico! please wait, let me grab my popcorn for the show 🙂

        • blink

          Dear Graviton
          I sense that , your comments are always to defend Hayat or another like her, what is wrong with you? But do it often because That’s my favourite Communist sounding song with a hint of Satanism.

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Hayat, “And to the extent ghedli has lent us to this situation, Eplf and Elf will also feature in my comments.”; no Ghedli or the Great Eritrean Revolution, with very few that could rival it, ushered us in to a free and fair Referendum and an Independent Eritrea. It also led to our newly established State being described as ‘a bacon of hope in the African continent’. Our Ghedli also took us to drafting and ratifying our first self-written Constitution that could have been intrumental in building the overall societal institutions. Despite a few setbaks here and there as well as the major adventerous war of 1998-2000 which was launched by DIA, up until that time, our legacy of Ghedli was progressing in the right direction only to be killed in 2001 by the dicatator and his inner circle of enforcers. To me, the legacy of Ghedli ended in 2001, what followed after is the Yemanes, the Kishas, the Sofia Tesfamariams, and the Nitriccs.

    • Nitricc

      Your Greatness! I am sorry you have to spend all of your time and energy for a lost cause. For me, I have known from the get go what her agenda is and I have told every one who wants to listen. There is more interesting aspect to this drama. When Hayat first came, she was like every one else and no one notice any different about her. then she to make some thing that grapes everyone attention to her. That is she told the whole forum she was suffering from life ending illness and she won’t around for a while. the whole forum wished her well and poor SAAY made a new thread that said “get well” or something like that. Now, every one attention is in place, she came back to her real agenda. Things started to emerge. There was heated debate between SAAY and T-kifle and I started to notice her position. Not only she unfairly took side with T-kifle but the systematic attacks and personal unfounded accusations against SAAY made to start to wonder about her and her agenda. She kept the abuse and insult against the Eritrean people and its journey. At one time she so bold and embolden by the once who were fooled by her, she declared the most
      discourteous and most slurring statements I have ever heard. She declared ” with out the support and aid of TPLF; Eritrea will never able to be independent” I was horrified and I compline to awate-team but the rest kept kissing here behind and she got more emboldened and encouraged to go all out assault. The truth is she is here for clear and cut agenda, if anyone can’t see the crystal clear agenda then, one either you are really stupid or you are a Tigryan.
      there is one misleading word that people get confused. When Hayat say ” regional integration” it meant to reunite the people of Eritrean Kebessa and the Tigryans in other words advocating Agazian agenda.

      • Thomas

        Hi NItricc,

        You sound like Sofia Tesfamariam when you say, “one either you are really stupid or you are a Tigryan.
        there is one misleading word that people get confused. When Hayat say ” regional integration” it meant to reunite the people of Eritrean Kebessa and the Tigryans in other words advocating Agazian agenda.” This accusation is commonly used by the DIA followers. Why don’t you instead ask the tigrean origin people, say Issayas, the yemanes and others? I am sure they would not like your noise because they know where they parents originated? You either drop your views or I will call you a tigrean? Go ahead call us tigreans or whatever name you have in your little mind, it did not work for you then and I won’t work now.

      • MS

        Ahlan Gen.Nit
        I hear you ma man.

        • Hayat Adem

          Mahmuday,
          Aha.. you said to Nitricc, “I hear you ma man”. Because he said what? Your complement to Nitricc comes next to his statement that said, “When Hayat say ” regional integration” it meant to reunite the people of Eritrean Kebessa and the Tigryans in other words advocating Agazian agenda.”
          Mahmuday, Have you really changed that much? Everything Nitricc said above is a lie. And you know it. Despite that for the sake of your own integrity and honesty if nothing else, you didn’t want to correct him. You didn’t even want to pass it without a comment. In a tone of endorsing, you said, “I hear you ma man.”
          Well, I hear you too ma Muhmuday!
          . Just 3 months ago, you described me with three qualities: non-abyssinian fundamentalist, non-agazian and forward looking. These below were your words:
          BEGIN
          “Selam Hayat
          You are no more an Abyssinian Fundamentalist, and I regret to have killed the thread more than it deserved. But as SAAY would have explained it, “gzien kunetatn gediduni”, and I assure you that this expression has not originated from IA’s. Your take on what you termed “Agazian kids” and your moderated position on Eritrea have placed you within the forward-looking and pragmatic pool of Ethio-Eritrean friends. Yes, we want nothing but peace and cooperation. Looking forward creates a spirit of cooperation and respect among peoples; looking backward does the opposite, as you can see it, it pits good friends against each other (read Emma/MS).”
          END
          Are words and positions that cheap to be completely given today and completely denied 3 months after? I don’t think so, but it takes Mahmuday to do that. He once said he didn’t want to be identified as one from Tigre. He distanced himself from his own people. Then he denied he said it. And then he had to face the undeniable evidence written by himself.
          How does positions and statements change that fast? Well, it must be the PFDJ thing: With Israel, then with Iran/Huthis, then 180degree and with the opposite club KSA/UAE/Qatar, Qatar was the most favored of all and for longer, then Qatar too was shortchanged,,,against Qatar…what else is new?! Swinging, recklessness, committing, withdrawing, denying, twisting and turning around to older positions!
          What does it mean when some one never gets ready to stay with his words and positions, and frequently shifts positions without justifying the shift?! When men are of such fluid character, it is hard to follow and it sucks. Mahmuday was, itis my understanding Tegadalai in mid-level leadership. At least, he must have been some few innocent tegadelti under his leadership, at least a platoon, at most he was a commissar or higher… Was this guy leading people to harm’s way with such a fluidity of character? What would it look like?
          I would say, nothing new. Tegadalai and the entire mass in Eritrea was just a cold statistics matter for PFDJ. They just bulldosed the truth and innocent lives and move on.
          I hear you ma man!

          • Nitricc

            Hayat, I don’t think you are well. lol how do you manage to a simple take, with such few words,
            “Ahlan Gen.Nit I hear you ma man.” to this, your replay? congratulations you break awate-forum records. First please tell where exactly did I lied? I am challenging you. and second you are not a good student. have paid attention to your master, YG, you could have saved from same pain your master went when he tried to play ELF and EPLF card. If you remember, both ELF and EPLF came after him and he was shocked. Again, you are here trying to the same failed card. if you think you can play Aman and Mahmuday against each other when it comes about Eritrea and the great gedli, not only you don’t know Eritreans but I wish you good luck with it. And lastly, I see no contradiction if Aman or Mahmuday pay you compliment when they think you did great thing and I see nothing wrong if they criticized you for what they think you are wrong. So, I know you are trying but at the end your credibility shoot. I think you need a vacation in Adi-Grat and see what the new plan is. this is failed and failed miserably.

          • MS

            Hello “Hayat”
            Giving you the benefit of doubt all along, despite the glaring facts, was an act of maturity. I don’t hesitate from adjusting my positions and views when it comes to perspectives. It only shows how human I’m. Even today if you come up with an explanation as to why you have been acting the way you have been acting, and if I see your explanation to be plausible, I will extend to you the benefit of the doubt. That shows how independent and how human I’m. It comes naturally, it takes me time to judge people.
            Compare this with someone who denies Eritreans’ past painful experience and the reason they fought Ethiopian occupation despite plenty of facts; someone who defends and protects the status of past Ethiopian regimes and their lords despite plenty of facts; someone who effectively tell the victims not to talk about their past experience the way they experienced it despite being given ; someone who puts Eritrea and Eritreans on the chopping block in order to gain political mileage among Ethiopians; someone who lies and lies… and lies and never even learns to be modest with her lying, etc. I’m not going to reply to you on the Tigre thing. You chose to continue taking it out of context. Ask Haile Zeru and Gadi if you really want to learn about Tigre (the relation between the officially given name and the identity it symbolizes). Stating that Mahmuday had denied his Tigre identity is another lie. But I’m not that egoistic, and I don’t suffer from identity crisis. I proud of my Tigre roots, and most awatista will confirm that; I’m also proud of my multicultural broad identity. And finally, I’m proud of my Eritrean identity, and my global views.
            Compare this with the character, Hayat: Your identity crisis is obvious. Your egoistic character is obvious. You want me to show you that? Well, you failed to sympathize with the victims of Eritrea, yet whenever you are confronted you signal for sympathy and protection. Nitrickay’s portrayal of your character is more important to you than sympathizing with the victims of your heroes. You want one more example: just recheck how you were lecturing Emma. All this to protect an ego contained in a character somewhere in the cloud of cyberspace!! Emma is real; I’m real. We can’t lie or mischaracterize things because there are many people who know us and who know what we are talking about from both sides. We may disagree on interpretations, but have you heard anyone who has come to challenge us on the validity of accounts and heavy issues we discuss, despite the presence of folks who may not agree with our political viewpoint? That says it all my friend.
            One more chance: could list just ten major atrocities you could blame on Ethiopian regimes?

          • Hayat Adem

            Mahmuday,
            I see how your emotion and ego are getting the best of you. Saying two contradicting things and views about one person’s character on the same issue in a difference of a month is called something else not giving the benefit of the doubt.
            I don’t need any approval from you, neither you from me. There is a reason why you went by your real name and i didn’t. It is a choice left to each of us. Maybe you wanted to accumulate political credit with your old Pfdj bosses. Maybe I wanted to fight them without endangering innocent others close to me. We argued about this before. Don’t sweat to flag it as if you have an advantage in going with your real name.
            You don’t have to defend Emma. He can do it himself unless you thought of him as incapable. You had a chance to show your care for him when you and your friends chased him to Sudan after killing hundreds of his friends.
            You have a lot of blood in your hands, I don’t. You were not only shooting at the Ethiopians. You were killing Eritreans as well. You and I are totally different. We talk different. We see different pasts and different futures. I am a victim of your choices snd decisions. There ard many families and generations who suffered yoyr actions. That is why you instinctively and instantly defend IA and Pfdj.
            Your lenses are not clear. There are not detergents good enough to completely clean blood drops and stains from your eye glasses.
            Penitence is the closest detergent. But that takes a change of heart and habits. If one’s love for politikawi timhirti is grwater than his tigre identity, the geart thibg is sold and sealed. It needs you a fundamental break to regain and access it, not deceptive adjustments here and there.
            You see Mahmuday, we are all being radicalized here, contrary to what Awate Team had in mibd when offering us this venue. These shots are your calls. I am taking every guiding signal from you and follow. I am here. Now, Your turn, call it a day and run away!

          • MS

            Selam Hayat
            ente bxerfi nsKi tis’Eri. enet bHaqi gn Wedi-Saleh…ijusr a correction: it’s xemam Hade derfu, not Asha Hade derfu (read: your reply to Emma). It’s you Hayat what can we do. I have made my case. The fact that you could not even mention one atrocity of Ethiopian regimes says it all. THat part was done yesterday. The following followup replies were intended to read more into the character Hayat and I have got that too.
            Now, that you refused to acknowledge some of those atrocities, you made me contact Central office of my PFDJ. And there you have it. They have published a 624 page book entitle gifEi (cruelty/atrocity).
            ምኽንያት 20 ሰነ – መዓልቲ ሰማእታት ኤርትራ፡ ኣሕተምቲ ሕድሪ፡ ብገዛእቲ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ልዕሊ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዝተፈጸመ ግፍዒታት እትትርኽ፡ 624 ገጻት ዘለዋ “ግፍዒ” ዘርእስታ… መጽሓፍ “ግፍዒ”፡ ኣብ ዝተፈላለየ ከባቢታት ኤርትራ ካብ ዝተፈጸሙ
            ባርባራዊ ግፍዒታት ገዛእቲ ኢትዮጵያ፡ ብግዜ፡ ብቦታ፡ ብዓይነት ግፍዕታት ወከልቲ ተባሂሎም ዝተሓርዩ 43 ዛንታታት፡ ንፖለቲካዊን ወተሃደራዊን ሃዋህው ናይቲ ግፍዕታት ዝተፈጸመሉ እዋን ዘብርህ ሰፊሕ መእተዊ፡ ከምኡ’ውን ስእልታትን ግፍዕታት ዝተፈጸመሉ ቦታታት ዘርኢ ካርታን ዝሓዘት እያ። …ካብተን ኤርትራዊ ዜጋ ግድን ከንብበን ዝግባእ መጻሕፍቲ’ያ” ክብል ርእይቶኡ ዝገለጸ ኣቶ ሰለሙን፡ ብዙሕ ካብቲ ኣስፊራቶ ዘላ ዛንታታት፡ ወዲ-ሰብ ክፍጽሞ ይኽእል’ዩ ኢልካ ክትኣምኖ ዘጸግም፡ ኣረሜንነት ገዛእቲ ኢትዮጵያ ኣጒሊሑ…
            Selam.

          • Hayat Adem

            Mahmuday,
            I was going to do that but I don’t work on orders. You started showering me with order about this report. That killed my appetite. A character I share with hero, IA. I don’t take orders from anyone let alone you.
            But now that part is covered by the Pfdj documentations, I will move on to anothwr uncoverd part: i will write a book on all the crimes and atrocities by EPLF^PFDJ.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            What is this all cyclonic circle talking. Mahmud and myself didn’t deny about the civil war between ELF and EPLF. But our admission about it does not exonerate you from your other lies nor should it hinder you from talking about the atrocities of HS and Derg on our people, unless you are an Ethiopian with an intention to exploit the current political realities of Eritrea.

            Second, I do not think any liberation struggle in modern politics that didn’t pass through those all ups and down including civil wars. You don’t have to go to far fetch to look examples, just our neighbor Ethiopia is a good example – Civil wars between TPLF and TLF, TPLF and EDU, TPLF and EPRP are history in the books of Ethiopian politics. What makes our different than those and others? And you are sweating to project the Eritrean case as worthless project. You don’t have to lie and come with fabricated accounts to tell the civil war of Eritrean liberations and you don’t have to resort to character assasination with lies when you are confronted to correct it. Sorry I had wrong feeds and sorry I shouldn’t go to blackmailing personalities would have done the job. But as I have saidbefore, you are here with a purpose to denigrate our history and instill hoplesness in the Eritrean mind. And I am sure by now this forum have identified you that you are not from us but an alien who came to play dirty politics. Once we have reached that point, it doesn’t matter what you will say from now on onwards. What ever lies that comes from you and your company will met with with necessary political tools,

          • MS

            Selam Emma
            The best answer yet. Hayat’s character that includes identity crisis and disingenuous behavior in addition to her shallow scope of knowledge about the complex issues she loves to lecture people on…have all been naked for all to see. I respect the Ethiopian who come here clean. That’s why I don’t bother about their defensive posturing unless they harass me. Just to recap her recent acts:
            1. fabricating a quote that she attributed to abona Woldeab Woldemariam
            2. Fabrications of crimes she attributed to ghedli
            3. Defending fiercely Ethiopian rulers who torched Eritrea, showcasing her hero Alula…
            4. When pressed promising that she would present past Ethiopian regime’s crimes
            5. Her failure to mention even one crime out of many atrocities Eritreans are familiar with
            6. Indeed, her dibliqliq and mismatches and her obvious remoteness from Eritrean experience makes her an alien. Ghedli is an Eritrean experience. If she feels she is alien to ghedli, ghedli will logically seem to her alien.
            What does qurdid do? It nurtures on the blood of its host. Dig it.

          • Hayat Adem

            Emma my dear,
            There is worse plot for Eritreans than what we have now. When you push it back, itnis ghedli and the civil war. Seriously, Eritrea was under Italy, then under British, then under Federation, then under Ethiopia, then under PFDJ. Which one of all is the worst? You guys are nuts. Eritrea is not your household item. Eritreans are not you. You killed a whole generation and you want to kill the fiture as well. You and Mahmuday had a chane to do good things for your country. You squandred and brought misery. Now leave us alone. Your life in exile shoul mean resignation. Leave Eritrea for this generation . You misled the youth once. Now and unfortunately you are obsolete and it is not you who know better. It is the non ghedli generation. I am not being unkind. I am just being honest. If you think that you were shooting at Mahmuday and he was shooting at you and he killed some of your bitsot and you killed some of your bitsot, and you think that is jus a normal thing because TPLF and others were doing it…?… ahh give me a break. There is nothing normal in killing each other. Let me tell you what is the normal thing in our world: peace, cooperation, social stability, education, normal life and normal government.

          • Binyam

            Hey Hayat
            i have followed how Ghteb, MS and Amanuel Hidrat are dealing their difference with you.i suspect they from the political generation who started ghedli; the generation who were inspired by the communist manifesto; the generation who is still in power in Eritrea and Ethiopia; the generation who is still leading the opposition in both countries; the generation that has achieved it’s cause for rebellion; and the political generation( whether in opposition or gov) that needs to be six feet under as soon as possible if change needs to come in the region.

            look at TPLF, the mild form of EPLF, they are leading the country to collapse. why?
            because they are from a political generation which is fundamentally undemocratic. they are still following the teaching of the communism on how to deal with the opposition parties. i have read some of you are optimistic to see change when IA goes but i think that is just being naive. as long as that political generation lingers in power, i don’t think, there won’t be any change.

            MS and Amanuel Hidrat love to cry about democracy, rule of law etc. but, had they been in place of IA, i am 1000% sure, their political rule would have not been any different. because democracy is not in them. they only way they want to settle difference is by undermining, dominating and eliminating their rival by using whatever means they have at their disposal. true to their nature, they are doing exactly that. you are lucky you were not with them during ghedli.

            i have read your post for a while now. they way you analyse things and your point of view on our region geopolitics is just impressive. and i appreciate about your take on ghedli. it has brought about independent Eritrea and self rule of nations and nationality in Ethiopia .this ghedli’s achievements are absolutely impossible to reverse.the legacy of ghedli players will remain there for generations to come. but it doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be brought to spotlight and criticized, especially when 60’s generation is using the scarifies they made during ghedli as an excuse to stay onto power and also when they are running their government using the same methods they used to run ghedli.

            at last, let’s hope the coming poltical generation is a lot more different than them.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            How did talking endlessly about ghedli that has closed its historic chapter 25 years ago could help to alleviate the plight of our youth? What did you contribute to explain their plight and help them to organize and fight back their enemy – the cruel despot and it’s system? Where did you attend in their meeting to encourage them in their fight? How many conference did our youth convene in Washington D.C. the city you are residing? But then how could one expect a ghost to do that? Do you thing you are leaving Eritrea to our young generation while all your effort is to pull them to past history in their crucial fight against their tormentors? You are not one of them. You are a foreign body interfering in their fight to instill hopelessness in the hope to make them resigned from the fight they are in. Hayat from now onward everyone in this forum knew you that you are an enemy engaging tactfully to prolong the life of the despot and the misery of our young generation.

          • Hayat Adem

            Mahmudsy,
            “PS: The lecture you gave emma about lying was good for a teenager or for someone who does not know the difference”
            Did you see though how terribly I tried hard and failed in getting that defnition into him? That was funny when he spoke of verifying intentions of lies at a court! So maybe i even need to even simplify it more.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Abraham: As always you are a step behind. However what struck me is your hypocrisy. You don’t even have the decency to mention Eritrean martyrs on their day, yet, you have nerve to tell me..
    ” Such kinds of statements from you arise from the fact that you have no idea how Eritrea came about and how Eritreans reacted to foreign occupation through their own sheer determination and free choices.” To tell you the truth the likes of you are the once endangering and weakening the country. You are on the record for siding with the Ethiopians regarding the border, yet you have edacity, to lecture me about the Youth leaving their country. really? please take a look yourself in the mirror and have self consultations. There is a very good reason why your opposition haven’t moved an inch, in fact, their disappearing, do you know why? you tell me sunshine.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Nitricc, one doesn’t need to write about Eritrean Martyrs at Awate forum to show his/her remembrance of them. They live in our memory every single day of the year; above all you’ve got to do something good to their loved ones. Indeed, I think of all those who gave their lives, so that those Eritreans coming after them could enjoy liberty, justice, prosperity, fearless and dignified lives without oppression. There is nothing that pains me when I witness the current miserable Eritrea under DIA; in fact to tell you, sometimes I get emotional and on tears when I watch one of those videos of Eritrean heroes and heroines who gave everything they had for their people, but whose sacrifices have so far gone in vain. But, Nitricc, you would never understand this, you’re just an artificial ‘nationalist’ just like those thousands of diaspora born and grown up Eritreans.
      Though never to be compared with those ‘special breed’ Ghedli era Eritrean fighters, I’ve done little of my part to my country; and I, once again, encourage you Nitricc to go down there to Eritrea and do your little part, instead of acting super-nationalist on the internet fora.
      “You are on the record for siding with the Ethiopians regarding the border”; so you want me to think like you in white and black, screaming ‘final and binding’ without end? No, sir, my view is the eebc decision being in place, you negotiate to resolve whatever differences you’ve. That is how leaders should act in 21st century.

  • wedi afom nlewTi

    Hi Awatistas

    I don’t the need for such fuss on all opposition websites. IA is looking after interests just like any other politician affected by the current GCC crisis.

    The talk inside Asmara Palace is that IA’s looking for a suitable replacement in preparation for the inevitable retirement. Oppo should work tirelessly to come up with a leader that can rally the majority of Eritreans in anticipation of such move by the incumbment.

    Blessings

    • Robel Cali

      Hi Wedi Afom,

      I hope he retires. It would show he went out on his terms. People tend to romanticize and appreciate you when you’re gone.So his legacy would be lionized if he did.

      But honestly, who can replace him at this point? The most charasmatic and best Eritrean statesman, Girma Asmerom, recently passed away. The most loveable general (wuchu) died. Ali Abdu could of been up there but he sold himself short.

      • Thomas

        Hi Robel Cali,

        You are one of a kind when you put it like, “The most loveable general (wuchu) died”

        • Robel Cali

          Hi thomas,

          He was loved. He was funny and charming. He fought on the front lines with his soldiers (his numerous injuries attest to this). He never made his soldiers do anything he himself didn’t do first. That’s real leadership.

          • Thomas

            Hi Robel Cali,

            The man is dead now. I refrain to talk about his personality now. I think that should do it for you.

          • Robel Cali

            Hello Thomas

            In what rational world is an affair a crime? It may not be moral before an Abrahamic God but cheating on your partner is not a crime. Most men do it.

            I don’t think he was well educated by he had charisma to lead. Education can only take you so far. If you don’t have leadership quality, you’re pretty much useless in the eyes of generals.

          • saay7

            Hi Robel Cali:

            Just an interjection for the sake of it: in most State laws–including the US–adultery is a crime. Adultery is a crime in the Eritrean Penal Code. It is just a crime that, rightfully, is not prosecuted probably because the judge, the prosecutor and the jury are all doing it.

            saay

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Robel Cali, we don’t have the luxury to look for charismatic leaders; only things we need are justice, rule of law and dignified lives.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Robel Cali and wedi afom nlewTi

        Peaceful transfer of power, whether through successful election or not, in a poor weak small country is like a three legged stool. It can not stand by a single leg, it can not stand by two legs, it can only stand by three equidistant legs. And what are the essential equidistant three legs that define peaceful transfer power? Well, these are the three legs of the stool in this analogy (not in that order):

        The first leg: Noninterference/blessing/insurance from global powers. If Western Powers don’t like the current leader(s) or their successor(s), they will label them tyrants/dictators/criminals… And they will demand “justice” – Western justice that is. And when Western Powers seek justice to punish the leaders they don’t like, there are always vengeful locals who will do their biding. In that scenario, there won’t be any peaceful transfer of power.

        The second leg: The successor(s) as a political party (opposition or not), must have unwavering conviction to give full political immunity from prosecution or persecution to those who are stepping down from power. If there is going to be any criminal investigation or prosecution, the bar must be very very very high – very high enough that would be visible by his/her political peers (political party associates). In the absence of immunity for the safety and well being of those who are stepping down, and, their families and friends, there won’t be peaceful transfer of power.

        C. – The individual top leader (president Isaias Afewerki in this case) and the trusted men around him, must be willing to step-down to give others a chance to lead. If they don’t, there won’t be peaceful transfer of power.

        In addition, it is safe say (a) there won’t be any peaceful transfer of power from PFDJ to the current colorful opposition brands, since each one is promising to liquidate the other (spare couple of opposition organizations) (b) Western Powers may not like the successor(s) of Isaias Afewerki, or might demand Isaias Afewerki to face the fate of Saddam and Kaddaffi (Western justice) – to teach others a lesson that – no one who stood against Western interest goes unpunished (if Isaias and his associates ever did) (c) Isaias may not have the desire to pass the baton.

        So, Robel and wedi afom nlewTi, is your ዛዓጎል showing you, the planets, the moons, and all the stars lining up, to witness the retirement of Isaias Afewerki?

        Semere Tesfai

        • Robel Cali

          Hi Semere,

          If the first leg was true, then PIA would have been removed by vengeful locals a long time ago since the U.S. hates him. The truth of the matter is, the U.S.’s track record of removing guys they hate has been pretty bad and costly. If they remove Isaias in a bloody civil war, all they will get are jihadist warlords.

          The second leg is an easy fix. Since there will only be the PFDJ party, they can grant immunity to PIA or any top official.

          The third leg is the most important one because without PIA stepping down, none of this would matter. I think once the consitution is implemented (perhaps 2018), he will step down. I don’t see him campaigning for votes against another party member. I also don’t see how he can’t impliment the consitution without upsetting his party that could lead to unrest. When he said the consitution is being written in 2015, he basically admitted he was going to step down because the consitution they are working on talks about national election at the president level.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Robel Cali,

            “once the consitution is implemented (perhaps 2018), he will step down … the consitution they are working on talks about national election at the president level.” These words seem to suggest that you have information about an ongoing process of writing a constitution. In my case, I did not hear anything about thise save one time when long time ago the despot mentioned. Thus, it would be appreciated if could expand on that and share the information you so that interested people could discuss the issue with sight on facts.

            Incidentally, I wonder why they have to write a new constitution when they had one that the regime had sponsored and tailored to fit the interest of the despot in the first place.The only reason for drafting a new constitution that would legally guarantee the prolongation of Isayas’ absolute power in the manner monarchs do.

            Regards

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Ismail,

            Yemane Gebreab said the consitution they are working on will have national election. Youtube, “Yemane Ghebreab Speaks on National Elections in Eritrea”.

            In 2015, Tesfamicael Gerahtu told Reuters, “Eritrea plans to reach a “new level of development” by 2018 and is now writing a new constitution that will be ready in the next three or four years, he said.”

            Regarding why they are not using the 1997 constitution, which was a very good constitution, I think it has to do with dr. Bereket Habte Selassie being the principal author of it. And also because it lacks Eritrea’s experiences and realities since the making of that constitution, or at least that’s what their position is.

            Isaias doesnt need a piece of paper to get absolute power. If anything, the constitution will limit his power and ultimately lead to a transition of power within his party via national elections.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Robel Cali,
            I appreciate your feedback. I now understand the material which you used in your earlier post. Incidentally, I was also aware about them. I just asked in case some new information has come out from Isayas himself. Pronouncements others make do not mean anything because they could rendered nul and void by the boss’couple word from the boss.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Ismail; I can understand why you are skeptical, you should be from past experience. But this time. it is it. “Time changes more than reason”

          • Ismail AA

            Ahlen Nitricc,
            Well, let wait and see.
            For people who know and followed the behavior of the man, and the way he conducts his affairs, it would be once-in-live time event if what you and Robel are saying turn in fact true.
            Thanks for engaging though.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ismail, while I got you, what do you think if PIA passes the power to his son? how do you personally feel? what are the ramifications for such act, the good and the bad? to the people and to the country.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Nitric,

            I won’t consider that possibility an idle conjecture regardless of its efficacy under internal as well as external circumstances. That is actually what dictators do because they have insatiable ego for power and domination. They think that they can also rule from their graves. But history shows us that dictators are usually poor in arranging the succession. Most of the time the attempt leads to towards demise or the successor ends up amid chaos and internal strife. Don’t you remember that one of the factors that led to the fall of Mubarak of Egypt was his attempt to pass power to his son?

            Actually, the reason for the rumored drafting of constitution might be a means to arranging inheritance. But first Isayas will have to enthrone himself before he picks his son as an heir apparent.

            As to my personal feeling, I pray as loud as I can to spare our people that disaster. I think more than a quarter of a century under a ruthless father is more than enough. The ramification would be disastrous and would endanger the future of the state itself.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ismail, i don’t think that will be the case but i just want to gauge your thoughts which i become to appreciate over the time in what you have to say. As of me, sure i am to be very shocked if that is to be the case, I rather see PIA appointing someone else before he sees his maker than the confusion and cohoes that follows if he didn’t appointed anyone. I do believe PIA has reached his final destination and i am expecting real decisions for the future of the country. i also believe, despite his shortcomings, i thought the country is relativity under manageable situation. The reason i am saying this is i gaduge the situations by how the TPLF reacts. right now, they are panicking. lessening to them makes me to believe that PIA is getting under their skin. having said that i am not opposing if he assigned his son for two years limit of transitional period. in my belief, Eritrea can’t go from absolute one man control to full fledged democracy. You can’t just go from high school to PhD. So, it may not be as bad.
            again thanks Ismail.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Nitricc,

            Looks like you have already accepted the possibility of his son to take over. And this is a way (you start with 2 years and that would end up to what ever number) for you to come to terms with the possibility that would follow.

            Isamael AA,

            I agree the ramification to the nation but I think that’s the real possibility. I have been saying this for a long time now and I think from Isayas point of view, that’s the safe bet for him to pass. From his son point of view, I don’t think he has anything to lose. Now for anyone in his position, suppose IA is removed, what would happen to his son. Would he be able to live in peace in the country, would he be able to live in exile for the rest of his life. Looking the odds, I think he would chose to stay and take over and he will connivence himself that he can do better job.

            This happened in Syria (Bashir al-Asad, who was a medical doctor and apparently had no interst in politics) was called to take over the role in the army when his elder brother died in accident.

            The current leader of Korea, Kim Jong-un no body knows if he had any interest in politics, but he took power when his elder brother was fallen out of favor.

            I personally think the likely of this happening is a lot higher than any other means of changes.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe: I think your take a little dramatic. PIA’s children and family have done nothing wrong, why do you think they can’t live in peace in their own country? PIA and his family benefited nothing from PIA’s power. it is not like they are looting the countries resources. from what I can tell, you are watching to much TV. There is nothing to do with Korea or Syria. I don’t believe PIA will assign his son for transition period, but if he does, life goes on. But I don’t believe PIA will do that. Anyway; PIA is safe what ever he decides to do.

          • saay7

            Selamat Berhe:

            Add this to the stew:

            1. Wikileaks disclosed a cable from US Ambassador to Eritrea, McMullen, to his bosses in the State Department where he reports what he heard from German officials who were visiting Eritrea:

            “Isaias, 62, told a visiting German parliamentarian in late 2008 that he is healthy and expects to live another 40 or 50 years.”

            2. In 2004, Isaias Afwerki told an Australian TV program (ABC’s “Foreign Correspondent”):

            resignation is not something “that will ever cross my mind again any time in the future as long as I am alive.”

            3. The fans of Isaias Afwerki are also fans of the 93-year old Robert Mugabe and whenever people point out that Mugabe is too old to be president, they say that this is a Western double standard because UK’s Queen Elizabeth is 91-years old and nobody is complaining. (Sigh. Yes, they know the difference between her ceremonial post and Mugabe’s autocracy but such is life in politics: you lose your sense of logic.)

            4. Eritrean Oppo org Medrek reported recently that Abraham Isaias Afwerki is getting private tutoring from Belgians and other Europeans on pol sci, econ. He is also escorting Hagos Kisha (the man behind PFDJ’s Purse) on all clandestine visits for deal-making.

            5. I know a lot of businessmen, in their 80s, who refuse to hand-over the business they built to their adult children. Its very hard to give up something that’s your baby. (See also 86-year-old Rupert Murdoch refusing to relinquish the reins entirely.) IA considers Eritrea his creation (see also “Eritrea At A Crossroads” by Andeberhan Weldegiorgis ) and its hard for him to give her up not even to Abraham. The laying of the groundwork just hasn’t happened yet (because IA expects to live to be 110.)

            6. IA has two contradictions: he is very hands-on manager who cannot delegate (micromanager.) On the other hand, it is clear that he is entirely bored by many core functions of his job description (attending conferences, diplomacy, meetings.) If I were a completely neutral consultant, I would advise him to be the new Eritrean Ayatollah: approve the candidates that will run against each other in national elections then, whatever the outcome, let them do the day-to-day business of governing, and you deal with the big picture stuff. But even that requires officially relinquishing power and his ego can’t take that.

            saay

          • blink

            Dear saay
            Why are you on the side line ? Can you pick your copia and do something about the opposition? Is it the family name ( hawi Ali Abdu ) or your personal choice that you distanced yourself from an organized opposition of Eritreans? you have too much quality and you are young comparing to the old ELF , EX PFDJ or EX EPLF , you are simply the best when it comes to the best of Eritrea. You are also moderate, smart and inclusive. What is holding you , if you can get your copia from Tigre , Tigrinya, Afar and other Ethnic groups and forum a political organization out side evil weyane arm , I will make sure I work for you freely plus money raising ??? What do you say ??? Lol , I know the first answer is crazy but I want the second answer . You never know who is Blink , it can be a surprise for every one.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Blink; I like your general idea but for now, it is a bad idea for SAAY to involve beyond what is already contributing. Instead of contaminating his staller character on this unknown and murky political situation of Eritrea; I rather see SAAY run for president when the dust settles. Right now, as it is, no opposition can fix.

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            May be you are right, I just want to use his prime time for the current situation and I guess it is a good call .

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY, regarding take # 5; I can understand in a personal business when some people failed to hand over to their grown children but a country is something different. I don’t believe PIA’s son will have as much as politics capital as his father does. PIA is doing what he is doing is due his political capital during the struggle for independence. And the people around him knowing what he did in those dark days, they are forced to be silent or look the other way, I can understand that but his son? He has done nothing to earn what his father earned. So, he can’t do what PIA did/does. Even with PIA if there was no war or Ethiopia had to comply with the verdict, I don’t think he stand a chance.

          • Ismail AA

            Ahlen Nitricc,

            I don’t really understand why (at least in principle) we have to submit to believing that the fate of a nation is tied to what a dictator would do one way or the other. If I read you correctly you are opining that if the despot is not going to appoint someone, or at the minimum passing power to his son, before his demise, chaos will follow. Why should we succumb to that mind set. Aren’t we reducing the potential, resourcefulness and capacities of an entire nation to grace and goodwill an autocratic father and son would magnanimously provide? Why can’t we think that the people could decide their fate in an environment freed from fear which could be available if you and me work together?

            We must be aware of how dictators through persevering propaganda instills in the minds of peoples that the future of nations is organically linked to their fate. We heard this during the time of Emperor Haile Sellasie, Mengistu Hailemariam and in many cases around the world. It is a kind of uniform behavior that dictators use to make themselves indispensable. Moreover, thinking that the country is under manageable conditions is very deceptive. The calm is due to fear and suffocation rather than relative satisfaction felt. I won’t consider the state of a nation manageable when it losses scores of its youth everyday to unknown destinations and destinies.

            Your statement that the nation would need transition period after the end of the dictatorship makes sense but I am not sure of the alternative – the dictator drawing the roadmap and the lieutenants (including his own son) – would the right way; and your analogy that a nation’s pursuit could be related to educational merit scale does not seem to be relevantly favorable.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Ismail; Some times there is a point and time to such measures. so, when you say

            “we have to submit to believing that the fate of a nation is tied to what a dictator would do one way or the other. If I read you correctly you are opining that if the despot is not going to appoint someone, or at the minimum passing power to his son, before his demise, chaos will follow. Why should we succumb to that mind set.”
            It is not about the mind set but about the reality. I have said a few years back and let me point it out three things on the fly that is…..
            1- PIA will go out on his term and time, there is opposition that challenges him, none.
            2-the best and peaceful change for Eritrea is PIA to involve in the process, he has to be part of the change.
            3-Eritrea and her future is firmly at the hand PIA, he could leave her in peace and order or he could leave her in absolute chaos and absolute pandemonium.
            So, according to my beliefs’ the best exit is the safest exist. for now, I will take any exit that will assures me the well being of the state. unfortunately, Eritrea exists in a very dangerous region and very hostile borders. we have to be carful. so, my take is not based on fear, rather based of reality and situations on the ground.

        • wedi afom nlewTi

          Hi Semere

          The indication is IA will pave the way for a transition figure who will call a national reconciliation conference to be held inside Eritrea. God willing, you’ll be invited. I ,for one, really like your balanced approach in dealing the ruling party and the opposition. Stay tuned and optimistic.

          Blessings

          • Kalihari Snake

            Hi wedi afom nlewTI: Wow! You are hearing the same thing that I am! Did you also hear that the reconciliation conference will be attended by Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Minnie Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, Pluto and Jiminy Cricket with a possible guest appearance by Sylvester Shyster.

      • wedi afom nlewTi

        Hi Rob

        The indication is Sebhat Ephrem will take the reins during the transition period. During this period, there will be a broad-based reconciliation conference inside Eritrea. This will hopefully lead to the resusciation of the National Assembly which will vote on whether to officially implement the 97 Constitution or draft a new one that reflects the new reality. Better late than never, hey!

        Blessings

    • Abraham H.

      Hi wedi afom, the only time DIA retires will be when he dies; that, he has said himself.

      • wedi afom nlewTi

        Hi Abrihimo

        Reliable sources inside Palace indicate that the old position has been reversed.

        Blessings

    • Haile WM

      wedi afom,

      this is the funniest thing i heard sofar this year about Issu, let me know when he retires… I will sit and watch the drama with popcorns.

      • wedi afom nlewTi

        soon very soon. Watch this space!

    • Kalihari Snake

      Hi Wedi afom nlew Ti: What is the latest rumors inside Menelik Palace? Have they found a suitable replacement for the T-TPLF? I mean…I am just asking…given their inevitable retirement.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Kalihari, as we speak the ruling EPRDF gov in Ethiopia is holding negotiations with the various Ethiopian opposition groups to sort out their disagreements. Hopefully, they reach at a consensual solution that addresses the prevailing disparties in Ethiopia in terms of power and wealth sharing, and fighting corruption through better governance. A united, stable, and economically growing Ethiopia is first and foremost good for its 100 million people, but it would also undoubtedly have a positive synergistic effect to our region. Eritreans, both in the opposition camp, as well as the governing entity have a lot to learn when it comes to solving differences through such civilized ways from what the Ethiopians are trying. I’ve to say I was really positively jealous to see the Ethiopian political actors sit together and engage in talks to find solutions for Ethiopia’s current problems.
        Let’s stop this zero sum game of blind “final and binding” sloganeering that has led us to nowhere in the last two decades, except cementing the power grip of the tyrant, giving him the green light to incur untold sufferings on our people. Instead, let’s back a process of round table talks that could facilitate the final settlement of the EEBC ruling, denying the dictator and his supporters to hide behind trivialities in order to prolong his absolute rule.

  • blink

    Dear Graviton, Simone and others
    Here is why I continue to reject the importance of Habesha as a peace link to Ethiopia. Framing is a way to use language to manage meaning. It involves the selection and highlighting of one or more aspects of a subject while excluding others. I have a picture of Eritrea and Eritreans in my mind , so my perception is that we have been shown a wrong picture of the Habesha thing(politically).
    Political leaders live or die on their ability to frame problems and their opponents image. In our case we have a very wrong definition of our opponents and a very wrong way of framing our problems. My wish list goes on to have a very big block of east Africa but that is not my problem and nor do my interest . My understanding is the term ” we are one people ” and so on … is wrongly placed , so I was just telling bluntly that we are not.
    In the complex and chaotic environment as we have, in which most leaders live and work, there is typically considerable maneuvering with respect to “the Facts” , what is real is often what the leaders says is real, but is it ?? No . So most people here are driving the same logic and I disagree with that based on may be 70 years of killings.
    The framing analogous most people use looks like just as a photographer does. The visual world that exists is essentially ambiguous as our esteemed forumers from south and some from Eritrea continue to show us. It is like a photographer that aims at her or his camera and focus on specific shot. S/he frame her or his photo and others see what he or she wanted them to see. That is what precisely what you guys are doing but it is just not the reality of our people nor our history. Too often things with PFDJ is like this 26 years of experience is nothing other than one year of experience repeated 26 times and I guess our people are already taking it normal life. We must refuse that as we refused such long time ago.

    Have you ever filled a job application that didn’t ask about your previous experience?? I didn’t. What I said about Habesha or particularly the relationship with Ethiopia is i think Eritreans experience.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam blink,

      Do not include me with the others. Now, can you answer the question I asked you?

  • Forwork Jeezus

    It was Qatar that gave Eritrea a reason not to be committed. They continued the smear campaign on Al Jazeera, they pulled out of the Dahlak Resort and they asked us to legitmise the war in Syria. Eritrea doesn’t expect friends just relations with mutual interests. Eritrea has no commitment to the GCC, most of whom actually do sponsor terrorism, although, Saudi and Qatar have their nuances on the semantics.Also there has never been evidence suggesting Eritrea supported any group in Somalia and Eritrea refuted this from the beginning. Also Eritrea hasn’t ever expressed imperial intentions only the protection of all her sovereignty- every last inch. Any talk of Eritrean aggression with out proof is just wild accusations that are made to make the Eritrean government look reckless and negligent of international law when it is the opposite.

  • blink

    Dear Aron
    I am not saying , let’s make Eritrea as an Arabic land paint it with sheria , no no no , what I am saying is the link we have with Ethiopia on the pretext of Habesha is rotten, I am saying it doesn’t serve Eritreans in general good. I am saying the habesha politics is rotten and it has cost both sides countless lives. I am not saying let’s change Tigrinya or Tigre with Arabic , what I am saying is , since Ethiopia has been a bully most of the time a threat to our existence in general , so let’s try to make a good relationship with Arabs especially with the sudanis. I am saying the problem we have is always connected to habesha thing.

    I am sorry if I sound offensive to Tigrinya and I don’t mean it that way. What I am saying is the problem is always connected to being habesha .
    Let’s make it clear ,I oppose any administrative system connected to any religion in Eritrea. I can’t see Eritrea as a viable state with out Tigrinya or any of these smallest ethnics.

    So Aron I hope you understand me now.

    • Aron

      Hi Blink,
      I understand you better, I disagree with you on couple points.
      The habesha thing is not ideology or any type of form of government. It Is un identity of most of Eritrea. It is the history, tradition and culture of the people. Some people claim Eritrea is a new country that was created in 1991 and it has nothing to do with the regions old history. I have seen some guys talking crap “Ethiopia is 3000 old and nothing to show for it” and so on excluding us from the equation that we were involved at every level of Ethiopian government throughout their history to this day. So whatever your perception is identity can be changed because it is annoying. It is and needs to be respected. Habesha thing is not the problem we have it’s the government stupid.

      Second I believe Ethiopia has moved on. The new generation does not even know Ethiopia and Eritrea used to be one country. As for their need for sea outlet they are building ports in collaboration with their other neighbors looking for cheaper services. Other neighbors are prospering. Can Eritrea prosper with out Ethiopia, yes of course. Can it prosper better working with Ethiopia, even better. The boarder issue could be solved by dialogue and negotiation if there is the will. We shouldn’t freeze in place until Ethiopia decides to leave. What if Ethiopia becomes obistinate and decides this no war no peace is working for them and stay in the boarder for the next 50 years, what do we do then keep our children in foxholes for ever. We know the international community is not even worried about talking to Ethiopia about it. The sooner we solve it the better. It is a handicap. for all problems there is a solution. It requires only will.

      So the fear we have about common heritage with Ethiopia is becoming phobia to some people including you my dear blink. Conquer it. Common heritage is spread out all over the world and majority of the countries who have common heritage live in peace. I hope we work for peace with all our neighbors.

      • blink

        Dear Aron
        Yes you are right common heritage is all over and most of them are having peace but not us. I may be wrong but the notion after the dictator , we will have peaceful country with independent foreign policy is simply not going to happen if we do the same We did last time ago.
        Our region is volatile and it will be more volatile after some years. Flames are everywhere in case you didn’t see them. What ever discussion with Ethiopia is going to be arm twisting , so my idea is we better not have any of it until Ethiopia see Eritrea as independent country. In order to find that respect we must form other means of power away from Ethiopia. It is not that I don’t wish peace but until these two( weyane and dictator Issaias) are not removed from power !!! We will remain on the same ground of bitterness. Dictator is comfortable as he is and weyane are happy as they are yet we have people who admire Ethiopian generousity more than Sudan.., all Arabs .

  • Brhan

    Hi Awatistas
    Neither Qatar nor S.Arabia and et al are with the Eritrean people. One thing that makes IA and the Kings of the gulf states is that they are all dictators. Dictators also deceive. That is what IA did to the Qatari king. That is what the King of S.Arabia did to Qatar. They do that because they know they are hardly accountable.
    But from Asmara to Doha, Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, the movement of grassroots is evolving and is saying no to the dictators!

    • Forwork Jeezus

      Rubbish. People in Saudi and Gulf don’t have an inch of revolution in their bone, not as long as U.S. has vested interests.

    • Mez

      Dear Berhan,

      I am sure you could do much better than this “lazy comment of yours”

      Thanks

  • blink

    Dear all
    Can Eritrea prosper with out Ethiopia ? 100% yes ,It can but the animosity in between must change to respect of each other.

    Does Eritreans have more in common with Ethiopians than sudans , my understanding is a very fat No. we have nothing with Ethiopians than the relationship we have with Sudanese. Unless you guys wanted us to hear the so called Agazian for or your rotten HABESHA thing. In fact we have a very healthy relationship with Sudan than With Ethiopia for centuries. I have no problem in Sudan to work and to live peacefully but that is impossible in Ethiopia. The notion Eritrea need Ethiopia to develop is a false narrative but doesn’t mean we need to fight . For me a union with Sudan is more mutual than with Ethiopia. We do not need Ethiopian customers to make money , in fact let them stay with others , making money is not an issue but developing a sensible economic system or policies are needed from inside. We have a very hard working people. Culturally or historically Eritreans are a very hard working society, what we need is just remove the dictator and after that make defense agreements away from Ethiopia. The next leaders must learn from history that our problems have been always connected to Ethiopia. We need to have a plan to make sure Ethiopians are as any one like the Arabs nothing more . Even if we gave power to SG or any one , we know the next hours he will face Ethiopian leaders with heinous demands, that will happen to any future Eritrean leaders. Eritreans must have a plan to cut any connection with Ethiopia apart from peaceful existence with mutual respect. I will be more excited if we have no relationship with Ethiopia but a democracy inside. We could have been in a better shape , if the bloody dictator listened to his colleagues advise. We could have a beige election and yet peace inside. We can defend Eritrea’s sovereignty from any one if this evil man listend in 2001.

    For the next 20 years Ethiopia will not sit with independent foreign policy of Eritrea. Eritrea can not develop independent foreign policy away from Ethiopia unless we make it ourselves.

    An Arabic Eritrea can be a far better than Amharic Eritrea. But these Elit so called habesha will cry fool now if they ever existed.

    • Mez

      Dear Blink,

      I am getting trouble to reconcile your blind comment, even I blinked several times over your write up above.

      Thanks

      • blink

        Dear Mez
        I know you will not reconcile with the view. But it is the perception I have . I believe the political side of habesha as a pretext to peace is dead long time ago. I believe we have already grown apart from the link . I think we have nothing in common when it comes to politics of it. But do not assume I am against Tigrinya and their religious beliefs. I do not believe religious beliefs can administer our modern life. So do not prejudge me as religious fanatic.

        • Mez

          Dear Blink,

          Well and good. Regarding “…..I do not believe religious beliefs can administer our modern life…..”, please do a stopover in the GCC countries while your next flight, and experience it yourself.

          PS:
          Please don’t take your sister or wife–as they may hate the experience once and for all,not to go back again.

          Thanks

          • blink

            Dear Mez
            it is a place where , you do not get deported because of your eye color. It is a common place for Eritreans even from old times.

            That sister thing was too low

          • Mez

            dear Blink,

            I hope you know that a “cat eye” is always a problem–i would say for both parties.

            thanks

    • kazanchis

      Dear Blink,

      I couldn’t help but ‘face palm’ to your conception of the whole Eritrea’s problem and blaming Ethiopia for your own nose dive. Ethiopia maybe to blame for current Eritrea troubles which is still debatable as some still think the country is on the move, Ethiopia has been forced to retaliate. But you have no excuse for failing miserably, for all the lawlessness and innumberable mistakes, Ethiopia has moved on and why Eritrea haven’t? Parting ways is quite normal, what Eritrea could offer, so does Djibouti and Somaliland. Whatever you negatively murmur against Ethiopia doesn’t solve your deep seated problem. Your assessment of the problem is hugely baseless and will probably end up in another circle of instability. Unification is done and dusted. I’m against it because the possibility of its success is too narrow. But two sovereign countries with relations of normality is fair enough.
      Any human being with brains on wouldn’t miss the significance of peaceful relations for prosperity.

    • Graviton

      Peace new?

      “An Arabic Eritrea can be a far better than Amharic Eritrea”

      Is that a new or rehash of the old vision? would you blink with an explanation if you may?

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam blink,

      In what way is the Highland population of Eritrea related the present day population of the Sudan?

      • Robel Cali

        Hey Simon,

        The highlanders of Eritrea have direct relations with Eastern Sudan. In many ways, Eastern Sudan is an extension of Eritrea. Many of the Beja and Tigrayit speakers there today came from the highlands of Eritrea just a few centuries ago. For example, the Habab (largest Tigre clan, which their name comes from “Habte Yasus” – Wealth of Jesus) came from Akele Guzay, while the Halenga (Beja speaking tribe) came from Seraye.

        Although most oral history from our region is pure fairtales, one that is backed by archelelogy and third party sources (Arab writers of that time period) comes from the the highlanders of Eritrea who claim they are of Balaw/Belew origin. Balaw is a Beja word which means “Noble”. Although small in number, they ruled the Eritrean highlands during the Beja Kingdoms between 8th-13th century AD. Their kingdom was called the Balaw Kingdom (the were the most powerful kingdom in the Horn of Africa for many centuries). They were Christian Bejas who claimed to be of Beja and Bedioun ancestry from Eastern Sudan (Port Suakin area of Sudan). Over time, they adopted the local culture and assimilated with the local population. Today you can still find traces of the Balaw in the highlands. There are many places that are Beja words in the highlands, with Belew-Kelew being the most famous. There is even a Tigre clan that calls itself Balaw. The Balaws assimilated to become Tigrinya, Tigre (Massawa population) and Bilen. I should point out, they are NOT the founders of these ethnic groups. They just added to these ethnic groups DNA.

        So without question, Eastern Sudan and the Highlands of Eritrea have had blood and historical connection.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Robel Cali,

          Can you provide any credible references for your claims? Lists and/or links …

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Simon

            Sure. In my next post, I’ll post all the credible sources. I wont post links though. The moderation takes too long for that. I’ll just post quotes with the book name and page number. You can find previews of the books via Google Books to see it’s all legit.

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Simon,

            In the 16th century AD, The Habab, Ad Tekles, Ad Temariam, and Bet-Asgade (The House of Asgade) migrated from Akele Guzay to Sahil, Keren, Semhar regions and became Tigre speakers. Of these related groups, the Hababs went on to be the most dominant, largest and powerful Tigre ethnic group. Most of these aforementioned Tigre clans were forced to convert to Islam between 1830s and 1860s by occupying Egyptian forces. The Egyptians thought if they forcibly converted the people of Medri Bahri to Islam, they would be more sympathetic to their Nile claims and support them in controling the source of the Nile in Ethiopia.

            The following are the names of these clans and their meaning:

            “Whole tribes, once Christian and still bearing Christian names, have become Moslem. We have only to mention the three Mohammedan tribes in Northern Abyssinia who call themselves Takles, “Plant of Jesus” (namely, Takla Yasus); Hebtes [Habab], “Gift of Jesus” (namely, Hebta Yasus); and Temaryam, “Gift of Mary” (namely, Hebta Maryam).”

            Source: The Muslim World: A Quarterly Review of History, Culture, Religions & the Christian Mission in Islamdom, Bände 1-2, 1966, p. 183

            Regarding the highlanders have oral traditions of the Balaw people, here is the source:

            “…between the 12th and 16th centuries CE peoples of mixed Beja and Arab ancestry known as the Balaw (Belew) seem to have been politically dominant in much of Eritrea (Conti Rossini 1928; Munzinger 1 864; Zaborski 1 976). The Beja were known to be in the Asmara area (see Conti Rossini 1928) and are remembered in the oral traditions of people residing in the Hamasien region that includes the Asmara Plateau.”

            Source: The Archaeology of Ancient Eritrea by Peter R. Schmidt, Mattew C. Curtis and Zelalem Teka, p.284

            Not only is eastern Sudan an extention of Eritrea but the Bahri Negasis (Sea King) of Medri Bahri (Land of the Sea) claimed their kingdom extended from Suakin in Sudan to Bab-el-Mandeb, with the Mereb and Setit rivers bounding its southern border. This makes perfect sence since Medri Bahri claimed all of the Six Beja Kingdom territory.

            Regarding my claim the Halenga (Halanqa) came from Saraye (Serae), here is the source:

            “On the Sudan border, the largest group of Tigre-speakers, the Sabdarat, mainly inhabit the Kasala region, as do also the Halanqa, who migrated originally from the Serae.”

            Source: Ethnographic Survey of Africa – Part 4, Page 69

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Robel,

            Good and informative comment, just for the sake of history. Societies are transformative with time and space and thus are not static.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Robel,

            According to what you wrote:

            1) Some highland populations migrated from Eritrea to “Sahil, Keren, Semhar regions and became Tigre speakers.”

            2) The Beja migrated to Eritrea and “established four kingdoms.”

            But what is the connection between present day highland populations of Eritrea and present day populations in the Sudan?

            Are there any connections between present day highland populations of Eritrea and present day populations in Ethiopia?

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Simon,

            1. Not some but many. Hababs also live in Eastern Sudan. Kunamas and Naras also live in Eastern Sudan. Beni Amers also live in Eastern Sudan. Many Tigrinya ethnic groups who are now considered Beja or Tigre (depending on who you ask) like the Kebilet Hamasen, Hallenga and Ad Bijel also have populations on both sides of the border.

            2. After the fall of the Aksum empire, the Bejas migrated from Eastern Sudan to Eritrea and established six independent and rivaling kingdoms: Balaw, Nagic, Baklin, Bazen, Kata’a, and Giarin. Of the six, the Balaws, who controlled the highlands, Massawa and Keren, were the most powerful not only within Eritrea but within the Horn of Africa. The Balaws came from the port city of Suakin in Eastern Sudan.

            During the Beja Kingdoms, which lasted for nearly 500 years, Eastern Sudan and Eritrea were basically one polity. Granted, they fought each other but they did work together against outsiders like the Agaw Dynasty and Arabs.

            When the kingdom of Medri Bahri was established in the 14th century, the Bahri Negassis claimed their kingdom extended from Suakin in Eastern Sudan to Bab-el-Mandeb near the Eritrea-Djibouti border. They were basically claiming all of the six Beja Kingdoms before them. So in their minds, they felt Eastern Sudan was their territory.

            Keep in mind, Sudan is a big country. Eastern Sudanese share more with Eritrea than any part of the Sudan. This is not an opinion but an established fact. Some of the first people who joined the liberation of Eritrea with Awate were Eastern Sudanese Bejas (Beni Amers).

            If you’re talking about Tigrayans well certainly there is.

        • Mez

          Dear Robel,

          So the future and well anticipated ghedli-ii is going to be the fight to get federated with the Sudan?

          Do I understand correct?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Mez,

            You understood wrong.

          • Mez

            Dear Simon,

            Heeelp!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Mez,

            Is there any suggestion in what Robel wrote about federating with the Sudan?

          • Mez

            Good Day Simon,

            Yes, it is all about that. That is my home take

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Mez

            I want nothing to do with any country that promotes religious laws. All I said was many of the ethnic groups in Eastern Sudan are of Eritrean in origin. And historically speaking, Eastern Sudan as been more Eritrean than Sudanese.

          • ሰላማት መምህረይ መዝ:

            What do you need “heeelp” or help with?

            ሄች ድርብ ሃ ኣዝ ኢን ሃሃ ኦር ኪርኪር

            If the words “heeelp” and “help” were composite whole numbers, their least common multiple would be e^3*h*l*p? Complex numper of sorts as in ax + i? Imaginary #

            GiantትSe

            ጻጸ

      • blink

        Dear simon
        I didn’t mention highland but you are right it sounds like that. My main point is , to revoke some points made by students of YG that Eritrea can not be divorced from Ethiopia easily due to the common language, culture …. all this squarely fixed to the habesha thing. I do not read any bad history of Sudan in for Eritreans but we have too many from Ethiopia, even now Eritreans in Sudan can work much more free than in Ethiopia.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam blink,

          I suggest that all those who advocate union with either the Sudan or Ethiopia should pack their bags and go there.

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon Kaleab,

            Eritrea with a kind of people like you will have a bleak future. You sound like you are from Allula breed and who are you to suggest what Eritreans should or should not do? From the comments you write, I can sense you are from the Issayasists click (known to have Alula’s blood in them):)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Thomas the cartoon character,

            Is your latest demand for Eritrea to join a Shari’a state like the Sudan?

            Nitricc is right to call you ‘aqatari’.

          • Thomas

            HI Simon Kaleab,

            Do you always have to defend your master, DIA all the time? You are accusing me saying or even implying on what you typed above “Is your latest demand for Eritrea to join a Shari’a state like the Sudan?”

          • Simon Kaleab

            Thomas the cartoon character,

            If you want to fight Isaias, I am willing to financially contribute towards your Air fare to Eritrea. Stop crying like a little girl day and night.

            Do you want Eritrea to join a Shari’a state like the Sudan? Answer this question.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Simon, I really thinks this creature named Thomas is the biggest Agazi. He waits by computer for his darling to post so he can be the first to kiss her behind. How is possible for Eritrea could produce such a waste? I mean this dude is incredible! He dreams about Ethiopia and he kisses every Ethiopian bottom in awate-forum. in a way I am glad he found something to do, now he reads every post and reports to the moda lol what a shame.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            You neither visited Eritrea not understand what to be an Eritrean means. Every time I get to read what you write here, I always laugh loud loud and say that this guy passed every idiot in the globe. If you compare with the idiots that the world has, you would come out to be the first one. I am advising you to try and may be that could be a hint to understand yourself.

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            I think simone is right, any one who wish union with Ethiopia or Sudan has to pack his belongings and I will contribute for his travel expenses. That being said , it is their voice and right as far as they don’t copy the Agazian view.

          • Kebessa

            Hey blink,
            We can fund-raise to send you to Sudan and Thomas to Ethiopia. We hate to lose two moderately-productive citizens but divorcing you two from Eritrea is probably the best, for all parties.

          • Thomas

            Hi Kebessa,

            I don’t think Blink can speak Arabic/Sudanese langauge. You are being unfair to him:)) I also think that the Sudanese might call him Habesh. And you know Blink hates habesha let alone being called habesh. I am trying to nice to my friend Blink now😀😀

          • saay7

            Kebessa:

            Since I am always complimenting u, here’s one (mild) criticism in the form of a question:

            Why is it that Eritreans all vie to be immigration officers? Anyone who holds an unconventional view must be deported? We are so few to begin with we should hold the view that every Eritrean is precious, even if such Eritrean wishes Eritrea never existed. Let’s pioneer that culture right here and right now. What do you think?

            saay

          • Selamat Saay7,

            Mild squareድ (በ/U)… Perhaps you are Miles Squared ahead. Why the doubt? You are.

            I was thinking about the words “indices” and/በ ” set the Captain free.” Perhaps “Eritreans all vie for immigration officers” correlation coefficient is larger than most or largest.

            Keymaker 010100.

            #AmErigiAnttSa, #AmErigiantXe.

            ጻጸ

          • Kebessa

            Hello SAAY,
            I am all for diversified views, sign me up for that! Now, what do we do with Thomas’ continuous desire to move out, all because Eritrea has a bad govt? Do we ask him to stay around and to give us time to fix the system, or do we grant him his wishes? If you are sane, you choose the latter, thus becoming an immigration officer.

            Let me take this opportunity to ask you a separate question: is it possible for an Eritrean to be a nationalist and against the PFDJ at the same time? Illustrations would be much appreciated!

          • Thomas

            Hi Kebessa,

            Get off my back and stop using me for your little experimentation, please? hahaha I thought you are smart enough to sense that I am just a disappointed but so proud of my nation Eritrea. I am also very tolerant and cannot stand people who are too conservative. I am just so proud that I am Eritrean and if you can detest from what I write here I don’t like regimes like the mafias in my country. If they (the mafias) try to tell me that Ethiopia is my enemy. I am smart enough to know what they are trying to accomplish so I am not like Nitricc, Blink, Semere T to be used as a pretext and advocate for unnecessary wars. We have be used ones and we say no to be reused as the propaganda guns.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Thomas, I am sure, people have called you so many adjectives, but I am dead sure, “smart” none of it. No one have to tell you that Ethiopia is your enemy, if she, you are smart figure it out. why are blaming the government of Eritrea? Frankly, you are the dullest person on this forum. You have no sense of personal inquiry. You just live the same life as Zimmerman’s pig, I know to think is not fun but, try it. And also stop being a battler to your masters.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Thomas,

            What is Hayat’s skill. I have no clue about her expertise, if she has any? Except, I saw her hindsight judgement that anyone can do it. Cleaverness in a debate does reflect expertise of any sort.

            Regard

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            Trust me all parents of tagedelti at their level have done cost benefit analysis of gedli. We should not be so defensive about this. We do this everyday in our lives. A unhappily married people do a cost benefit analysis even after they have children of their own. Could I have done much better and how about I never had my children? They are parents and I am sure the love kids of their own, but they get to question what they have done. Should I have done this or that is very common. What is so strange about it. You need to remember it is never to question the motive of our martyrs, it pains me when people take me there.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Thomas the man just asked you a question, that is ” What is Hayat’s skill” why don’t you answer that before you go rumbling. Answer it.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            Can you stop making me laugh, “Answer it”?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas,

            Instead answering my question you are defending her. You told us she has skills and I asked you what is her skills or expertise. While you could defend her by answering my question, you failed to do so. I told you anyone can do it when things are set and done. If you are not willing to tell us it is fine with me. Have a good one with no further question.

          • Hayat Adem

            Emma and Emma,
            What are you doing to yourself?!
            I never claimed to have owned an expertise or skill of anything. Not because I have none but because I am aware we are coming here as ordinary participants not as authorities on any sort. So there is no need for a certificate of skill or expertise.
            I never said I were an expert but you have said many times as an expert in politics, tegadalynet, systemsof government, pedagogy, medicine/chemistry, activism… I wouldn’t go any inch to challenge you against any authority you may claim on any issue. But that doesn’t preclude the fact that i will never hesitate to challenge any of your takes whenever I find them weak, silly or untrue.
            In the same way, I will never hesitate to join you and express my agreement or support whenever i see I feel I read great feeds and ideas from you. Even if some of your ideas fail to be together, I always try to look at them as flaws coming from trying to be principled without necessarily being updated.
            Always, your principledness and seriousness come first to my mind more than you as a figure of thinker or elevator. Well, I don’t regret for thinking of you that way. Not that your impressions will matter a lot to my situation and, But now you didn’t need to challenge and contradict yourself so bizarrely for really really really petty reasons.
            ———–
            A month ago, you said something different than what you said now.
            Your words begin:
            “Good morning Hayat,
            I love and appreciate your acute imaginative mind, and how you weave the threads of logics, to give the meanings of the story and it stands for. I agree with your depiction. Always enjoy what you have to say.
            Regards”
            End

            Today, you just said this: “What is Hayat’s skill. I have no clue about her skill or expertise, if she has any? Except, I saw her hindsight judgement that anyone can do it. Cleaverness in a debate does reflect expertise of any sort for that matter.”
            ———–
            Nobody thinks here, you Emma can make quick changes of mind. The only reason that pushed you to say two contradistinctively different testimonies about one and the same person has to do with what that person has done or said between these two feeds of yours. And that could possibly be what this same person has said about ghedli in the last few days. That means Hayat’s skill or expertise in the eye of Emma is to be certified or denied depending on how she treats ghedli.
            All interesting but I’ve bad news: you are only and simply confirming and strengthening what I said on what the ghedli culture looks like: if you don’t like some one, “go after her destroy her, say bad things about her, even by contradicting yourself.” That is quite an improvement from what was being practiced in the ELF/EPLF miedda, which would have more likely than not been; “kill her!”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            How can I question your exeprtise something I don’t know? Thamas mentioned it many times and asked him what your expertise hoping it will be in the social scienc of revolutionary struggles. Because you questioned our ghedli that we didn’t make cost-benefit analysis before we even started it. Am l right Hayat? You see Hayat, I am open who I am and what my background it is, including my professional training is. And Hayat is a 👻 ghost everything is obscured from the public knowledge. So do not complain about me.

            Second when I found to complement you I complemented and when I see lies you see outright rejection. What is wrong with that? Your are not a person without flaws, if you think otherwise you are not human being. So Hayat straighten your views with your identity and everything will be okay. Have a good one and l close my case.

            Regards

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            I can tell her skills to someone who is not familiar with her but NOT to you. For Gods seek, I think you used all adjectives in the vocabulary to describe that women and now when things to sour between the two of you, I have to tell you what her skills is. Amma– please refrain from asking such kinds of questions

          • Nitricc

            Hi Kebessa; I liked your inquiry so much, I stopped by to give you my take. forget the Thomases; they are lost soul. They are like a woman looking for supper wealthy to marry so she don’t have to go to work. They want to move out where everything set and they don’t have to do anything. if they were people of principal and character, stick with your people and fight to fix whatever the problem is. So, I am with you on this, let Thomas go to his beloved Ethiopia, he is worthless.
            Now to your more interesting take, you said ” is it possible for an Eritrean to be extreme nationalist and against the PFDJ at the same time?”
            In a normal situation, YES but in the situation Eritrea is in, NO!
            The biggest problem with Eritrea is that, the government is perceived as a solo care taker of the nation while the opposition are suspected of to the contrary on this kind of situation no nationalist will side against the PFDJ. I don’t know what the definition of nationalist is but I am guessing, it is a person who believes the nation comes before any government or entity. if that is the case, it is impossible for any Eritrean nationalist to go against the PFDJ. For instance, this web-site is an Eritrean web-site that considers it self as an opposition to the government of Eritrea. They do so with out showing any nationalistic display. There is no mention of the independent, there is no mention of Martyrs day, there is nothing that indicates that this Eritrean and anything Eritrea, while the Government and its supporter’s do everything Eritrean. As long as the opposition doesn’t erase the perception that only the government takes care of about the well being of the nation, they no have chance for ever.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            I know your mental copacity so I will make it easy for you. Your master DIA as coward as he is only good at:

            a) Deception
            b) Manipulation
            c) Lies
            4) Disuniting/creative at creating divisions among Eritreans
            5) Opportunist

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Thomas, What is so baffling about Isayas is that he has deployed all those tactics you mentioned, including a good skill of persuation since he set foot in the Eritrean body politic in 1966 at the age of only (20 yrs?) and an incomplete 1st year college education, surprising, indeed. He avoided (or was he spared?) the liquidations by Jebha, and he survived all internal power struggle within his groups. He could even use all those dirty tactics as late as September 2001 when he purged out and disapeared his all time comrades in arms-the G15; people who were supposed to know his tricks very well, but nevertheless became his victims. I don’t know, but may be we Eritreans are so loyal and so naive to such a degree that we don’t see when we are in harms way.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Kebessa,

            If “Nationalist” is to mean to protect and secure your sovereignty, then of course you could do both, fighting the authoritarian regime to emancipate our people at the same time defending our sovereignty from foreign intrusion. How about that?

            Regards

          • Nitricc

            HI Aman, the problem with your take is that what if the government is doing the defending of the sovereignty from foreigners? how can you be against the government? You can not!

          • saay7

            Selam Kebessa:

            It depends on the many definitions of “nationalist.” in the one with the negative connotation, “ultra-nationalist”, yes it is entirely possible to be “more nationalist and against PFDJ.” In the Eritrean context, those who are more nationalist than the PFDJ are those who:

            A. Have more stringent requirements of who is Eritrean: the “weledo-counting” must go for generations. They think the PFDJ was too generous. (If they are in the opposition they will say this is self-serving policy to accommodate the PFDJ elite)

            B. Are more shoot-now-and-screw-diplomacy than PFDJ.

            C. Are even more virulently anti-Ethiopia.

            saay

          • Thomas

            Selam Saay,

            I agree with your take above. It would have even helped us even more if you had named names. Especially, great examples can be good and bad awatistas (meaning using us to make a point). I am sure we say worst things to each other here:)

          • blink

            Dear saay
            I thought you are a nationalist to a degree of good nationalism but where do you group yourself?

            I read all your comments and articles ,find them a healthy and sound nationalist idea.

          • saay7

            Selam Blink

            Hmmm. Let me put it this way:

            I am a capitalist, but I am embarrassed by most capitalists;
            I am a nationalist, but I am embarrassed by the behavior of most nationalists.

            A lot of the outward signs of nationalism–flag waving, anthem-singing, us-them–make me wince. I am far too self-conscious to lose myself in anything, which is also why I am a terrible dancer.

            But, I love Eritrea and its potential. And I love all Eritreans and their goodness. Eritrea and Eritreans are my favorite topic to write about although, as I get older, I am falling in love with Africa, too. And, lastly, I recognize all this is irrational and illogical but faith-based.

            saay

          • blink

            Dear blink

            I will always remain optimistic about Eritrea and Eritreans . I will never ever change to be sudanis or Ethiopian.That is it.But I would love to have good relationship with Sudan than Ethiopia. What I am saying is ‘” enough with the habesha politics.”

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Friends,
    A nice read! It is informative and in the right balance and context. It also clearly shows how Pfdj is managing Eritrea as its own PLC.
    On the older thread, Berhe Y. wrote me a comment saying to the effect that Ethiopia benefits in the long term by defending or at least by not antagonizing the Eritrean ghedli. He reasoning was like: if not, Eritrea will take alternative actions that can hurt Ethiopia. For a moment, I couldn’t squeeze any essence or sense out of it. Then it made a perfect sense when I relate it to the Pfdj’s actions.
    If all the country to country relations are about national interests and gains, or mutual cooperations, there is no better country for Eritrea than Ethiopia. If, for example, we consider financial gains, only the port revenues can reach more than a billion dollar a year. Djibouti now earns 2 billion yearly. Eritrean ports used to host 90% of Ethio ingoing and outgoing trade. This is even without mentioning the other areas of economic interdependemce and cooperation which can be quantified in tens of billions of dollars. Now tell me, which Arab country can match or outmatch that!
    If country to country relations are all about national security, then there is no more vital vountry that can harm or advance Eritrean national security than Ethiopia. Eritrean security issue with Ethiopia is simply so big that would equate to existential level if it goes wrong. Now tell me, which relationship with any Arab country can be that consequential for Eri!
    If a country to country relation is all about cultural proximity and shared history, there is no other country for Eritrea that can come before Ethiopia. Which other neighbor country can boast of so much interrelatedness with Eri!
    Despite all such commonalities and shared destiny, or on the other hand existential risks involved, Eritrea simply prefers and enjoys irritating and provoking Ethiopia. One way to understand this seemingly mind-boggling puzzle is to see it through inverse mirror logic of “the preference to depend on the power and privilege of harming the other including by harming yourself rather than by cooperating with and benefitting and influencing the other.
    Some minds are wired that way and it is sort of 1st nature and there is nothing they can do about it. That is exactly how the minds of sucidal terrorists work. Kill the ‘enemy’ by also not caring to preserve your own life.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Hayat,

      I agree to the benefit of Eritrea and Ethiopia. First of all you have to see Eritrean people and Eritrea the country from the current regime which is in power. This is your problem and that the current of the Ethiopian government problem.

      The problem is Ethiopia is not seeing Eritrea as a neighbor country that needs to be deserved to have it’s peace. Ethiopia wanted an Eritrea so weak (post PFDJ) that it can remote control as it wishes. For example, the issue of ethnic based constitution and the fact Ethiopia promotes to include “up to succession provision” in the constitution and favors some opposition group which agree to this is a problem for most Eritreans.

      No body understand what Ethiopia long term plan for Eritrea is. Is that it wants Eritrea to be weak and disintegrated and in process to see some part of Eritrea gain and united with Ethiopia?

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Hayat,

      I agree to the benefit of Eritrea and Ethiopia. First of all you have to see Eritrean people and Eritrea the country from the current regime which is in power. This is your problem and that the current of the Ethiopian government problem.

      The problem is Ethiopia is not seeing Eritrea as a neighbor country that needs to be deserved to have it’s peace. Ethiopia wanted an Eritrea so weak (post PFDJ) that it can remote control as it wishes. For example, the issue of ethnic based constitution and the fact Ethiopia promotes to include “up to succession provision” in the constitution and favors some opposition group which agree to this is a problem for most Eritreans.

      No body understand what Ethiopia long term plan for Eritrea is. Is that it wants Eritrea to be weak and disintegrated and in process to see some part of Eritrea gain and united with Ethiopia?

      I personally think, after thinking it for long time that’s Ethiopia long term plans…and although this sounds unappreciative for it’s efforts and generosity (refugees, supporting opposition/ hosting) but the case of Eritrea, as was argued by SGJ should be handled very carefully and with care.

      Berhe

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Berhe, I don’t know why you are so convinced that the demarcation of the border would end Isayas rule; that is very simplistic view of the Isayas gangs. From the get go, Isayas has told us that the real problem is is not border; so as long as those real issues are not resolved there would not be any normalization between the two countries; and Isayas has thousands of other reasons as well as many blind followers who are prepared to accept whatever steps he takes.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Abraham,

          It may or it may not. From what we gather by Cohen and company, Eritrea wanted the boarder issue to be resolved, but its Ethiopia who refused and continue to refuse.

          If the boarder is demarcated then Isayas will have no excuse and it becomes our problem.

          We don’t know but that is one way to shorten his rule. Now his excuse for everything is the boarder, take away his excuse.

          Berhe

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Berhe, you wrote, “If the boarder is demarcated then Isayas will have no excuse and it becomes our problem.”. Of course, Isayas has tons of excuses, and he has lots of useful idiots to follow him and repeat whatever he says. He has always said the conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia is i not about border; the border is just an excuse or a symbol of what he believes is a greater conspiration against his regime by the USA, and the Weyane are only acting as their handlers. This belief of the dictator tells us that whether the border is demarcated or not, there will not be normal relations as long as the underlying issues are not resolved. And the only way of resolving these outstanding issues is through dialogue, something the dictator has abstained from.
            As things stand today in Eritrea, Isayas can do whatever he wants without a peep from those who support him because they are ‘nationalists’. He could discard a ratified Constitution, and they readily applaud him; he could declare there would be no elections in Eritrea for four decades, they cheer him up; he tells Eritreans to go to Mars if they want democracy; and they repeat after him.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abraham,

            What I am suggesting is Ethiopia calls his bluff and agree to demarcate the boarder. Please take away any logic, any reason, any common sense.

            Let’s assume in unlikely situation the boarder gets demarcated, then what will be his justification for continuing the indefinite national service.

            What would be his reason for not having a constitution?

            What would be his reason for not bringing people to court?

            Off course I dint expect he will change anything but you get the people to take bold measures to defy him.

            Equally at international level he will be challenged (right now, every time they are called to give their side of the story, government officials, they repeat undatcated boarder, Ethiopia occupation of ERITREAN land etc.

            Yes you are right there will many who support him unconditionally. But I think there are a lot of people who by the justification, shaebia is doing this because of Weyane occupying our land.

            Berhe

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Berhe Y.,
        “First of all you have to see Eritrean people and Eritrea the country from the current regime which is in power. This is your problem and that the current of the Ethiopian government problem.” Is this a periodic idiocy or what? What do you make of this? There were times I witnessed cooler feeds from you.
        You also said this: “he problem is Ethiopia is not seeing Eritrea as a neighbor country that needs to be deserved to have it’s peace,”. And I ask you, how is that? Eritrea became a neighbor country to Ethiopia officially in 1993. Then, Ethiopia was the first to call it a country even before the UN. I don’t know which country was the 2nd. And then came the conflict with Yemen. Eritrean officials are now on a record blaming Ethiopia (not thanking) for helping them when they clashed with Yemen. Then came the clash with Djibouti (1996). Do you think Ethiopia was some how behind that? Then came the most devastating conflict of the 1998. I would say Ethiopia was the victim and it was dragged to it by the crazy IA. I didn’t believe that was the case then but I learned it now. This is a development of the last straw for me on how Eritrea was being managed by a gambler who doesn’t seem to care about consequences and bigger realities. And there were offers of offices from many to avoid the war. One funny story I was told was about the old man who was Djibouti’s president then. He was shuttling between Asmara and Addis to bring IA and MZ in to better terms before things escalated. So IA was first to talk to him and he told him that he didn’t know the problem as if it was a work another man from another planet.
        “Mr. President, I wish I have some clue about the issue. The PM simply went to his parliament in one mood day and told them to declare war. You should ask him why he wanted a war. Probably this is not something to escalate to a serious problem and our friends in Addis may regain their senses and clam it down. But right now they are dramming war loud and clear. We don’t want war.”
        The Djibouti President flew to Addis and met Meles and shrared what IA told him.
        “Mr. President, We haven’t seen coming this to us from our Eritrean brothers and friends and we have no clue as to why but they attacked us and occupy our two places inside Ethiopia by by deploying regular army in brigades and tanks, and overrunning our police and dismantling our local governments in there. I wanted to talk to Isayas for days on this and he was not reachable. We didn’t declare war, we asked them to pull back their forces and then we can talk if there are issues to be resolved. That is the only way to deescalate. Status quo ante! As far as I know, that is the issue.”
        Do you think then, Ethiopia takes a bigger share of the blame for the fall out in 1998? Then came the meddling in Somalia and in neighboring countries that precipitated the sanctions. Do you believe Eritrea was unfairly sanctioned and mistreated (therefor Ethiopia becomes blamable) for what it was doing and it continue to do under this crazy gambler?
        Aptido flew back to Asmara, and told IA that MZ told him that Eritrean forces invaded some localities inside Ethiopia, and that the first step to save the day is for Eritrean forces to move back.
        “That is not true, Mr. President. The Ethiopian PM is not telling you the truth. We have no troops outside our territory. Not an inch. Let me show this on the map.”
        IA opens his drawer and brings out a folded map and placed it on the table; spread it out flat and was showing the location of his forces in reference to the border line drawn on the map. But then Aptido’s eyes were on the border line between Djibout and Eritrea. His eyes went wide up on seeing a big chunk of Djibouti’s territory were included into Eritrea. And he didn’t pay attention to the rest of the talk from IA.
        So, Eritrea was at fight with Djibout as well. Who could want to fight with Djibouti.. their most common phrase is çane fait rien!
        Is Ethiopia then to blame for sending its refugees to Eritrea or for hosting our refugees and allowing them to learn in the Ethiopian universities? Is Ethiopia to blame for receiving all those provocations coming from Eritrea in the name of DemHit and G7, or for arming and infiltrating Eritrean opposition forces in mass so that Eritrea doesn’t sleep in peace?

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Hayat,

          I was right you didn’t get my point, and you still do not get it.

          Everything you write and said, I don’t dispute and I agree with you.

          I said to you, you have to stop seeing Eritrea and ERITREAN people from the PFDJ and IA.

          Everything you said was related to IA and his small group and has nothing to do with the Eritrean people.

          My point is, you have to see Eritrea beyond IA. How do we get rid of IA and make Eritrea a normal country to the benefit of its people and its neighbours?

          That’s not what you are not getting and I am afraid the Ethiopian government is not getting it.

          Sometimes I even wonder if the Ethiopian government want to see IA removed at all? I think and I feel they are happy as long as he is doing the disinteratiom of the country and the people, it will be an easy pray in the long term for Ethiopia. This is what I come to believe the long term Ethiopia government policy. But before that happens, now IA is check maiting Ethiopia and putting the ERITREAN people in great danger.

          Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Berhe Y. ,
            Of course, the Eritrean people totally completely obviously have nothing to do with Pfdj and IA. Pfdj is a very alien entity. If that is what you are saying, you and I have nothing to disagree at. There is nothing else in all this. I don’t care or I don’t have to care about what you say about Ethiopia. Just don’t forget what you are telling me today: Pfdj which is also a product of Eplf has nothing to do with Eritrea or Eritreans. I will hold you on that and will alsways remind you of offing whenever you deviate from this grand principle. You amed my day again! my day again!

          • Nitricc

            Hayat, I was going to respond to you but I will wait for your battlers to respond first. they don’t like it when someone beats them to it. But till then, please get this, the EPLF, the PFDJ and the entire Eritrean people are one and together. Long live EPLF, Long live PFDJ and Long live the Eritrean people. WE are one!
            have a good day, mom.

          • Kokhob Selam

            General Nitricc

            Long time don’t see ,we don’t talk .. now in this very equation making our common ground Jebena page.. go open Jebena an enjoy the poem ..she (Queen will agree) to visit ..

            KS..

          • Hayat Adem

            Hey Nitricc,
            It has been a while… Did you say, “please get this, the EPLF, the PFDJ and the entire Eritrean people are one and together”?
            Why don’t you tell that to Berhe Y.? You see, I am not alone on this. Not tonight, at least.

      • welde

        Hi Berhe Y,

        I thought you should know if don’t already , the first country that recognized Eritrea’s independence and not only that, wrote letters to all world institutions such as UN,AU insisting that they recognize Eritrea as an independent country was Ethiopia.

        What else is there to be done by Ethiopia to confirm and accept Eritrea is an independent country?
        If what you want is normalization that comes with a round table talk. Its as simple as that. Its give and take – the art of modern political solution to old fashion problems.

        regards,
        welde

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Berhe,

        If we Eritreans could not checkmated the megalomaniac despot, how do you expect a foreign entities to checkmate him and as such Ethiopia – an insane personality who could not even listen to the International communities? Don’t we have to engage to regain our lost territories which wasn’t a contested area (tsorona areas) within the frame work of the International arbitrary court’s decision, if talking between the two governments could amount in making adjustments during the demarcation process? Isn’t insisting to implement as is, is a strategy that gives to DIA a face saving no matter we lost our territories?

        አቦታትና ክምስሉ እንታይ ይብሉ: ኢድካ ናብ ባሕሪ ስደድ ተረኸብካ ዓሳ ሒጅካ ትወጽእ እንተዘይኮነ ተሐጺብካ ትወጽእ::

        Therefore, what do we lose from sitting with Ethiopia and talk if both countries could make some adjustment during the demarcation process or during putting the markers of the border? After all the agreement allows for that if both sides agreed to to make adjustment during the demarcation process.

        Regards
        Senay MeAlti

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Emma,

          Let me start from your last statement. Nothing we lose nothing if we sit down and talk. But in order to talk, both sides should be willing to talk.

          IA is not willing to talk* and insisting “no ifs and buts” and “final and binding”. We also know that, Ethiopia is in territory that are awarded to Eritrea. I don’t if Eritrea is in the same situations.

          I know and you know that “final and binding” or “no ifs and buts” means completely different think when it comes to the implementation of the boarder. Like they say, the devil is in the detail..but in principle, without making any pre-condition, dialog, talk, sit down etc..we accept the verdict as is and we are ready to implement.

          So what I am suggesting is, Ethiopia denies him the opportunity to “oppress the Eritrean people and create havoc in the region” by using the boarder “Ethiopia occupation” as an excuse.

          Berhe

          * Remember the speech IA gave in Algeris after the peace signing agreement. If you recall the time line, it was Nov 2000. And the Eritrean bayto (in Sept 2000), they pass a resolution to have an election by Dec 2001 I believe, and creating bylaw on “Party formation”. It was really hot time for IA and he had no choice but comply with the ruling. In his speech he was more than willing to “talk”, not only that he was even said “let’s close this chapter of our history and start fresh” and at the end, when Butflica wanted them to shake hands..he streched really far to shake Melles…and even give him a BIG HUG….

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Berhe,

            Let me bring three points as a reminder:

            (a) Ethiopia didn’t lose territory as a result of the verdict,

            (b) Eritrean lost a big chunk of land as a result of the verdict.

            (c) So talking with Ethiopia and making adjustment during demarcation process is still beneficial to Eritrea. Our people from the uncontested area, but given their land to Ethiopia by the result of the verdict are complaining about our position and of not protesting to make adjustment. So I am baffled of sticking to the verdict, when there is a leeway in the decision to regain them by talking with Ethiopia during the demarcation process. Anyway, I think it is the opposite how our mind works.

            Regards

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amanuel,

            No our minds do not work on opposite. If it was up to me, I think even if we swap badime with other Eritrean territories awarded to Ethiopia would make sense. Just like we accepted the loss of Hanish islands with Yemen, just for long term peace and considering the cost and benefit (since it was under Ethiopia / TPLF) administration since 1981 (almost 40 years) I can’t say it will have a significant damage.

            I am not advocating on the position of IA, but instead, giving him no excuse to continue to deny the rights for our people and use the excuse “our land is occupied”.

            Let me ask you, how many people (percentage wise) that believe Ethiopia is occupying Eritrean territories? How many people do you think, Eritrea should negotiate (assuming they even understand the ruling) and return back the lost territories in exchange for others?

            In my opinion, the first group are 99% while the later are 1%. And this is primary due to:
            1) Ethiopia rejection of the ruling
            2) Ethiopia acceptance of the ruling in principle
            3) Ethiopia accepting the ruling but insisting on “dialog”.

            All Ethiopia’s position are used for IA and PFDJ government to justify their decision.

            Here is Eritrea chief negotiator. speaking after accepting the proposal of peace deals.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWvBRXhOgYo

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Hi Berhe and Emma,
            Just to highlight what Berhe said. The stand-off between the 2 countries is an arm wrestling, but with Ethiopian elbow in Eritrean territory. It has been like that since the agreement. Should IA been flexible and lighten his grip on his citizens instead of burying himself in a very costly strategy that back bites, of course yes. However expecting a let-it from Ethiopia to alleviate Eritreans of their problem and IA is simply a wishful thinking. Have you listened to the smouldering tirade of Gen Tsadqan? Appearing as a non-involved individual he exposed the true policies and ambition of ethiopian government. The difference is he is officially out and can say it, not the Eth government.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile S.

            I agree to what you said. In the same or another interview, if I understand what he said correctly, he is doing benefit, cost analysis to Ethiopia position. If the players were Eritrea and Eritrea alone, that may be a good strategy but now there are many other players who he thinks is greater threat than IA ever was. For that reason, Ethiopia should scale up it’s support to the opposition.

            Berhe

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Hayat, your ideas were what is supposed to be in relations between two neighboring nations, but, alas, in Eritrea let alone deciding our relations with other nations, we cannot even decide upon our own internal affairs. A win-win situation is what is needed, instead of a win-lose/actually lose-lose as it has been going on for decades now, to the dismay of both peoples. I mean, let’s think about it; what do the Eritrean and Ethiopian peoples or even the regimes have to lose from having a good, peaceful bilateral relationship other than the gain of progress and development? How evil could some ‘leaders’ be to not wish for the best interests of their peoples?
      Now let’s for the time being ‘forget’ the so-called border dispute between Eritrea and Ethiopia. After all both sides have admitted that the real dispute is not border but some other things. Now, couldn’t these two countries’ leaders just sit down together and try to find a solution to their disagreements via talks? I know the Ethiopians had offered to negotiate even in Asmara, what is it that is keeping the Eritrean dictator from not engaging in round the table talks? Even the arch enemies of North and South Korea, a peninsula threatened with nuclear war, do talk to each other, and had a common industrial park, for God’s sake!

      • OriginalSam

        Abraham,

        You say, “I know the Ethiopians had offered to negotiate even in Asmara, what is it that is keeping the Eritrean dictator from not engaging in round the table talks?”

        Negotiating your own sovereignty is not something any nation can be expected to do. The matter was taken to arbitration with the full agreement of both parties. The disputed territory was awarded to Eritrea. The matter is now closed. Surely you agree that international arbitration means something? If so, then Ethiopia refusing to accept the result of the arbitration that they willingly agreed to should not be tolerated. It should not even be humored by any further negotiations. Full withdrawal of Ethiopian forces and the establishment of Eritrean administration over the territory should be the minimum requirement for further negotiations on the particulars.

        • Abraham H.

          Dear Sam, you seem to not have understood my post, please read it again:)

          • OriginalSam

            Abraham,

            I understood your post perfectly. You mentioned that Ethiopia offered to negotiate in Asmara and asked why Isaias won’t accept that offer to talk. There can be no negotiation with an occupying force. Full stop. So long as Ethiopia insists on occupying the territory, positive relations cannot resume.

          • Thomas

            Hi Sam,

            How about if your master one day wakes up and tell you that the only way is to negotiate with the Ethiopian government and close the case up, are you going to be “NEFAHITO” on us? I know your kinds that they don’t say things to help the Eritrean people but to prolong the life of the mafias and I believe your intention is to keep Issayas in power because he is I don’t may be you are the beneficiary of the the current situation (cursed diamond) or you are doing this to satisfy your subnational Eggo.

          • OriginalSam

            What fools like you don’t realize is that many of us oppose Isaias and are far more nationalistic than he is. Isaias is actually very moderate compared to Eritreans like me. Thus, if Isaias sells out our sovereignty and tries to make a deal with Ethiopia, that would just be a greater impetus to get rid of him as soon as possible. Many people would turn against him for the first time.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam OriginalSam, what guarantees do you have that Isayas already have not sold out Eritrean sovereignty to the highest bidding Arab Sheiks in the Assab area? There have been rumours the regime has offered the UAE some sort of ‘lease’ which is said to last for decades; and, of course, without consulting the Eritrean people, and we would never know as to the type of agreement or its nature, as the result of the secretive regime.
            Isayas already exposed Eritrean sovereignty to danger by starting the border war with Ethiopia, ruled according to the commission madated to investigate who started the war. He also ‘sold’ Eritrean territory by offering to leave ca. 25000 square km of Eritrean territory under the Algiers agreement. Besides, the border verdict of 2002 didn’t give Eritrea whatever it claimed to belong to it; rather the decision was somewhere between the claim lines of the two sides. Leaving aside the town of Badme, almost all the so called disputed areas during the border war were ruled to Ethiopia. So you guys want us to believe that Eritrea won the border ruling, and that you care more for Eritrean sovereignty. when the fact is otherwise.

          • OriginalSam

            Abraham,

            You say, “what guarantees do you have that Isayas already have not sold out Eritrean sovereignty to the highest bidding Arab Sheiks in the Assab area?”

            Because the Assab lease is nothing unique or extraordinary. Many countries lease undeveloped land or ports to rich countries willing to pay exorbitant fees. According to the unconfirmed reports, the UAE is paying between $300-$500 million a year to lease the land next to Assab airport and the airport itself. Eritrea not only earns passive income, but the UAE must develop the land and airport to suit their needs. Once the lease ends or the UAE no longer needs it, they leave but the development remains without having to spend a penny ourselves. Good deal.

            As for the border war, Badme is Eritrean land so he didn’t start anything. I realize this site is typically populated by turncoats, but that bullshit doesn’t work with me. You can’t start a war over your own land. It was Ethiopia that tried to take land that wasn’t theirs to take.

            Your claim that he sold land by going to arbitration doesn’t even make sense. Arbitration determines who actually owns the land and who doesn’t. They ruled that certain parts belong to Ethiopia and certain parts belong to Eritrea, including Badme. We’re okay with that since we respect international law.

          • Thomas

            Hi Sam,

            Here you have that we again, “We’re okay with that since we respect international law.”. Who are you referring when you abuse using the pronoun “WE”. Does that mean we the supporters of the mafia (the dictator)? Chunks of land that even Ethiopia believes it was ours is gone to Ethiopia. What do you say to the Eritrean who are to lose their land because someone who was with the commission might have made a stupid mistake?

          • Abraham H.

            Selam OriginalSam, you are talking of rumours, so am I; we don’t know what kind of deal the Eritrean absolute dictator has signed with the Arabs, we don’t know whether it is a lease or land sale, for how long, for how much, and were the eventual proceeds are to go. Despite all these dubious issues, people like you are ok with those kinds of deals. On the contrary, you oppose any form of talks with the aim of normalizing the unnatural relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia to the detrimental of the Eritrean people and youth who’ve to spend their golden years between rocks. Do you see your twisted narrative?
            It is not me or any other ‘turncoat’ Awatista who is claiming Eritrea started the war; it was the result of the finding of the Commission mandated with that task. Irrespective of Ethiopian alleged provocations, it was fatally wrong when the Eritrean dictator ordered the mechanized attack on the Ethopian forces around Badme on May 1998. And other thing you missed: when Eritrea agreed to leave the security zone, it was 25 km inside Eritrean territory, both disputed and undisputed territories; meaning Eritrea had to leave its own sovereign territory to the UN, and that was ok with you guys, who are so nationalistic about Eritrean sovereignty, shameful, indeed.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            “It was Ethiopia that tried to take land that wasn’t theirs to take”

            Ahhm, its our land, and better yet, we still have control to it. take that to your shabo circle and cry a river.

          • Thomas

            Hi Sam,

            It is really depressing to read the part you wrote, “Many people would turn against him for the first time.”. For the first time, the strong oppessition and for that they have to pay with their lives and I am TALKING ABOUT THE G-15 AND WEDI ALI (THE FORTO OPERATION) WAS NEVER STANDING UP AGAINST YOUR MASTER. By the way when you say “we”, whom are you referring to?

            You also said, “Isaias is actually very moderate compared to Eritreans like me”. Who said Issayas is a nationalist, if Issayas was the person whom you are describing, I would not be talking with people of your kinds here.

          • OriginalSam

            Thomas,

            Not sure I understand your post. I don’t support the jailing of G-15 or any dissenters and I don’t support Isaias himself. I would rather he was gone.

          • welde

            Hi Sam,

            I just want to give you some truth if you will… and make your own decision on that.

            Badme was under Ethiopian administration prior to May 1998 invasion by Pfdj. Like wise Tsorona was under Eritrean administration prior to EEBC rule. I have heard of Tsorona a lot during the war for independent in the 70’s, 80’s. The people of Tsorona paid their life for the independent of Eritrea; they have participated and have voted on the referendum to be free.On the contrary the people/residents of badme neither participated on the struggle for independent nor voted on the referendum.

            The irony of the EEBC ruling is , it gives Badme to Eritrea and Tsorona to Ethiopia.

            Now you know why Ethiopia insists on talking. Don’t you think it makes sense, if not for Badme people at least sit and talk for the sake of Tsorona people, after all they have paid with blood and put X on the ballot box to be Eritreans.

            regards,
            welde

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Abraham,

        I am not by no means trying to minimize the reckless decision of IA.

        What Ethiopia says and what it does are completly different things.

        Let me give you an example. Right after PM became prime minister, in his interview he offered even he will go to Asmara to negotiate (if this is what you were referring). Then in the same interview, he was asked he would allow the Ethiopian soccer team to travel to Eritrea to play (because they drew to play against reach other ) and said, sure why not. And though he doesn’t know the details of it.

        But few hours later, who ever had upper hand in such matters, they said they wound not travel to Eritrea for security reason but offered to play in third country (Sudan or something).

        I don’t think Eritrea said one way or another the whole thing died, may be one of them won by forfeit.

        I just remembered when Iran come to the US to play in the World Cup, I think they drew against the us (if correct) but they had rose flowers and offered to the players or the spectators, something like that.

        Berhe

        • Abraham H.

          Dear Berhe, what I referred to was said by PM HMD in an interview with Aljazeera; I don’t remember whether he was asked about the Ethiopian national team in that same interview. But whether he answered affirmatively to let the Ethiopian soccer team to travel to Asmara or not, that would, obviously, never be materialised unless Eritrea also agreed. I think it was very naive of the journalist to ask that question, because thnigs have to proceed slowly, at least there must be some talks to break the ice and to soften the tension before any goodwill activities take place.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awate, actually, I’ve never seen border issues being handled by a third party country. Why didn’t the two countries take this so called border issue to the international tribunal, as is common in such cases, in the first place? This Dumeira thing smells like a corruption case to me; on the Eritrean side , we know it was initially denied, the Eritrean people have never been told of the conflict; and we heard some PFDJ officials ceding the entire responsibility for the international conflict on the shoulders of the Eritrean dictator and his Qatari counterpart; claiming it was only the dictator who could have answers about the issues, and no one of them was allowed to talk about the issue. I remember this was said by the late Eritrean amb. Girma Asmerom in an interview with VOA Tigrinya.
    I’m convinced the Saudis and UAE have payed a certain million of dollars to the Eritrean dictator to secure his support in their current diplomatic dispute with neighboring Qatar. It is claimed the Somali president was offered $80 million to side with them, an offer he rejected.

  • OriginalSam

    Eritreans,

    I was initially against taking sides, but now I think we should support this move. The issue is far more complicated than this article makes it appear. First thing we have to understand is that Eritrea and Saudi Arabia have security agreements. Eritrea is also strengthening ties with Egypt, who may end up placing their troops on the Djibouti border. Sudan is now an ally with an open border with Eritrea. Add the UAE base in Assab and you have an alliance chain that pretty much makes it impossible for Ethiopia to move against Eritrea. Even if a conflict breaks out with Djibouti, Ethiopia could not simply waltz into the middle of it without raising the ire of Egypt and the GCC.

    Furthermore, the USA is 100% committed to the GCC, so while Ethiopia has previously been the USA’s favored servant, the geopolitical dynamics are shifting away from them. Ethiopia’s lack of sea access also makes them entirely irrelevant to the current crisis. The GCC and the USA/Israel want to keep the Red Sea out of the hands of Iran and Russia, which makes Eritrea’s support of the GCC a pretty big bargaining chip. All of this means that Eritrea is starting to gain enough leverage to possibly lift the sanctions and gain GCC support through cash and fuel.

    Aside from that, the other pressing issue is that Djibouti allows Ethiopian troop access to their territory near the border with Eritrea. If Eritrea loses control of the Ras Doumeira mountain and islands, then Assab would be that much more difficult to defend. I think if Djibouti had never allowed troop access to Ethiopia, then there would be no conflict. So there’s many layers to what’s happening right now and simplistic notions of “neutrality” in the face of geopolitical upheaval appear to be inappropriate. What we’re seeing is Cold War II.

    • Nitricc

      Hi OriginalSam; I like your take. I am really confused at the speed of breaking and making-ups on that region of the world. just few months ago, Egypt and Saudi were at each others throat but now not only they are allays but gunging up against Qatar. In my opinion, Eritrea shouldn’t have took the side she did. Just say nothing, no one going to force Eritrea to say anything. I have no doubt, in short time Qatar and the rest Arab countries will hook up once again. just like the Egypt and the Saudis. I am not sure if Eritrea could have stood all the obstacles and pressures by the haters with out Qatar’s help over the darkest times of Eritrea. I don’t like it.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Nitricc,

        I don’t agree with you most of the time but I agree with you now. Now you have seen in real time how the brain of IA works and what he is capable of doing for dollars. Same thing when Gaddaffi did all for him, he just did not utter a word in opposing NATO and take a stand against the interference of Lybia, just like other countries did, South Africa, Colombia…IA is just use and throw..he has no honor.

        Egypt beef with Qatar is related to the Arab Sprint and Aljazeera. There was a Canadian / Egyption journalist I believe who worked for Aljazeera. He along other Aljazeera reporters (Australia / Newzeland) were detained in Egypt after the AlSiSi government took power or right after the fall of MB.

        The released the other journalist and they detained him. His name was Mohamed Fahmy and he was represented by famous lawyer Amal Clooney. The Canadian government didn’t say much but what they have hoped to achieve was ask the Egypt government to give him pardon (and may be him to admit his guilt) which he did nothing but reported the events.

        He was released after so much publicity the Egyptian government received. But the case was directed to attack and intimidate Aljazeera.

        I agree Eritrea should stay neutral, just secure it’s boarder and leave the problems for others to figure it out.

        Egypt, SA could not be trusted when it comes to long term Eritrean interests.

        Berhe

  • Kaddis

    Selam selam,

    Eritrea – is too small not to take sides. Maybe Isaias’s decision to side with Saudi and try to get something out of this is not a bad idea. Imagine if it says neutral – it doesn’t get anything. Will not even be mentioned on the news. I think Eritrea, through Isaias, knows how to stay relevant / important. Its not by staying mute in the corner but to be proactive and take advantage of the situation.

    Ethiopia also made a good decision to stay neutral because it has a limited capacity to mobilise more nations behind it. Some in Addis are saying, Ethiopia could intervene into Ras Dumiera ( in Derg time I remember this name as Ethiopian ? ) with an invitation / or support of Djibouti ( Somalia style 2006 ). I am totally against military intervention.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Kaddis,

      I think Eritrea involvement is a short term gain and long term loss. Sure, Eritrea is irrelevant but what if the group who is against SA in Yemen prevails and end up forming a government. Then Eritrea has a permanent enemy across the Red Sea.

      On second point, if what Hayat said is true, that Egypt is offering to mediate and fill in the gap created by Qatar and Egypt has a long term plan vs Ethiopia what is that Eritrea gaining in the long term.

      Have you heard General Tsadkan latest..interview with regards to Ethiopia/ Eritrea. He is warning that Ethiopia should pay close attention to what’s being happening in Eritrea / Red Sea and it should make the preparation so no long term damage can be done by the Isayas regime.

      One part that I really agree with him is that, Ethiopia should stop interfering in what type of government and what type of constitution the Eritrean opposition needs to create / forum. It should leave that to the Eritrean to figure it out but it should support the opposition in equal amount related what the PFDJ is doing. Again this is for the sake of Ethiopia long term benefits.

      He said “We should stop equating the Eritrean people with the regime that’s in power”. Ethiopia and particularly Tigray, there is no body who is more close to them that the Eritrean people.

      But people like Horizon, Abi, Hayat and others are here trying to teach a lesson on Eritrea and in the process they are losing to advance their interest for the long term benefit of Ethiopia.

      Question for you kaddis:

      Why isn’t Ethiopia have no say in what Djibouti is doing? Djibouti depends for the most part of it’s economic activities from Ethiopia. Why is it allowing all this countries, US, China, France (of that’s long term deal) and who know now, Egypt, S.A and others to come in. Do you think Ethiopia has a leverage against any threat that would come and affect it dramatically.

      Berhe

      • blink

        Dear Berhe
        Saudi is in a middle of making deal with Djibouti to open a military base .

      • Kaddis

        Selam Berhe – thank you for your sincere questions …

        With the risk of sounding like Yg, EPRDF’s concern should be very much related to the abnormal nature of the Eritrean ruling party/gov. Its unpredictability. EPRDF is trying to contain before the spill over. Somalia style. You can see Eth meddle more in Somalia than in any other neighbors. Its part of the containment strategy. All the countries you mention somehow are playing by the international norms / order – although with different policy objectives. You can live with that. Plus – if you briefly check in the past – EPRDF was struck by the events related to Badme war. I don’t think EPRDF will treat Eritrea the same way after the reckless war of Badme. They thought they knew Shabia – but not so much. Unfortunately – the ordinary Eritreans position, including the opposition, was surprising enough ( most supported the war, lobbied on the side of Shabia etc..) that extended EPRDF’s suspicion to the opposition itself. The current meddling I think comes from the never ending debate of the Badme war …
        The reason why I am trying to distinguish the ruling party position from the mainstream politics of Ethiopia is because, EPRDF’s position on Eritrea is very independent and intentionally kept outside the mainstream political discourse. In any case the EPRDF decision on Eritrea considered very favourable in the mainstream politics here; although much of its decision is done very discretely.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Kaddis,

          Thank you for honest response.

          It seems to me the policy is not based on long term interest but rather based on resentment and grudge.

          The fact that Ethiopia wanted Eritrea weak and fragmented like Somalia but contained is quite a wrong policy, and that explains the reason it wanted a divided opposition even post Isayas.

          This is unfortunate because it doesn’t serve its long term interests. It’s a habesha thing I guess, both governments are in power but they can’t think beyond their small ego.

          I have supported Eritrea position during the badime war because based on the information that I have and because I am ERITREAN. I expect the same thing from an Ethiopian. The opposition leaders are no different and there is plenty of blame that can go around. Most ERITREANs, who probably never heard of badime / baduma and Ethiopian declared war and we are invaded to going and bomb Asmara took around a week.

          Why on earth are they bombing Asmara, and the downing of an Ethiopian mig with a known pow capitain Bezabih was a shock.

          So I don’t know why EPRDF leaders would get surprised by this event, the same way IA calculated Ethiopians would not support Wetane.

          Just compare to the war between Japan / US, Europe / Germany and if this politicians can move on and we have legal frame work at hand there is no reason why we have to get stuck and the people pay the price.

          In my opinion Ethiopia democracy is really on shaky ground and there are many elements (pfdj being one) that can exploit it. The Red Sea with many players are creating an environment that can threaten Ethiopia security.

          Even if the base of these countries done using international means, I see no reason why Ethiopia can have no say on the policy Djibouti is making. At the end of the day it’s up to Djibouti to decide who it wants to host, Ethiopia being it major customer can dictate the terms.

          For Ethiopia, having A stable Eritrea (leave emotions aside) is a safe long term benefit, including Djibouti.

          Eritrea can and will develop in its own, there is enough resources and creativity in the people to make it happen with or without Ethiopia. But we need a stable and a government that minds its business and leave the people alone.

          Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Dear Berhe
            Fair enough, but the catch phrase you missed is the Abnormal Nature of Shabia is forcing Ethiopia to treat Eritrea as a special case. Unless you understand this premises, not sure we will arrive to agreeable conclusion.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear kaddis,

            I was not referring how it treats PFDJ today.

            What I was talking about it post pfdj eritrea and how it can help empower the opposition group today to become a friendly government, as in equal partner.

            The legal frame work, re: demarcation can be used as means (because it the right thing to do) to give IA and PFDJ no room to make “weyane” as excuse.

            Berhe

    • blink

      Dear kaddis
      I think you are right, Eritrea is too small not to take sides but it could have stayed neutral if you saw the help he got from Qatar for almost decades, On the other hand Eritrea is not small if you take in to account the service it is giving to
      UAE. Plus Issaias is a known advantage seeking person, despite this all, both Eritrea and Dijubit are in the same box of Saudi.Lets wait and see how he play his card on the Djibouti and Eritrean border issue.
      Dumeira kkk yes it was.

  • KBT

    Selamat kulukhum
    Hey guy professional fake news crocodile tears mean nothing this way or another eritrea is always guilty in your eyes
    Wishing ill upon us are not the first time ,Eritrea used to ,
    Tell me what do you expect if the so call mediator vacate the disputed erea ??leave it to Djibouti??
    What is your solution then ?? M sure you have none
    Qatar was taking in hostage the case several years . They never acknowledged or denie Djibouti pow claims ,why ???
    Please refrain yourself for useless assumptions,and Please don’t mansion about Eritrean suffering,you ( so called opposition) who colluded with foreign power to asphyxi Eritrea by all mean including economics sanction.

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam KBT,
      How can Qatar acknowledge Djibouti POW claims? Isn’t that for Eritrea to do?

      • OriginalSam

        Qatar is the mediator and had access to the POWs. They confirmed that Eritrea released all of the POWs, which is what the GoE stated as well. The only ones insisting that their are still POWs missing is Djibouti. Looking at the case logically, there is no reason why the GoE would not release all POWs they have or simply state that the POWs are dead/killed in action.

        Furthermore, Eritrea’s claim over Ras Doumeira is not without merit, whereas Djibouti’s claim contradicts the most recent treaty on the matter, so which party has the bigger incentive to stall? The obvious answer is Djibouti.

        • Mez

          Dear Original,

          …so which party has the bigger incentive to stall? The obvious answer is Djibouti….

          Really?

          Djibouti is doing unique business with 1) france 2) the us, 3) China 4) Japan 5)Germany 6) your hated Ethiopia; had you took all these into account, please?

          Thanks

          • Thomas

            Hi Mez,

            “Aitbke endi’u zebkiyena zolo”:)

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam OriginalSam,
          When soldiers are missing in action, unless there is confirmation of their death, Djibouti is correct to assume they are POW. It is not possible for Qatar to have access to all POWs. Even International Red Cross didn’t have access to them. Logically there was no need for GoE to not publicly acknowledge it had POWs, refuse access to International Red Cross. Djibouti had repeatedly asked the whereabouts of its POWs even an acknowledgment that there were POWs. GOE refused to confirm or deny until they mysteriously appeared in Qatar and transited to Djibouti. I don’t know how you can conclude that Djibouti had an incentive to stall based on its request for news about its POW.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abrehet; you are acting like US soldiers are held in captivity. We are talking worthless country called Djibouti. This freaking country making all this noise not that they cared about their toothless soldiers but they are acting in behalf of Weyane. They will do whatever Ethiopia tells them to do. it is all calculated politics game in hope to hold Eritrea hostage. The last country to worry about MIA is Djibouti, they are busy with their Khat they could careless about anything. The Ethiopian bush from behind is the point.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Nitricc,
            I hope you fill find a way to get out of this self-hatred and respect yourself. I can guess why you think one should have serious concern only for US soldiers, but despite what you think Djibouti has been doing it best to find the whereabouts of its missing soldiers.

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