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The UAE and the Horn of Africa Threesome

Since Abiy Ahmed became Ethiopia’s prime minister in the spring of 2018, he has met with Isaias Afwerki at least a dozen times. On Sunday, Abiy Ahmed arrived in Eritrea once more. This time, he is accompanied by Lemma Megersa, the Ethiopian defense minister.

Also, after his first visit to Eritrea in July, 2019, the Somali president Mohamed Formaggio has since became a close ally of both Abiy Ahmed and Isaias Afwerki. He is visiting Eritrea for the third time to meet with the two leaders who are closely allied with Mohammed Bin Zayed of the UAE.

Ironically Formaggio still maintains good relations with Qatar, a country that is boycotted by the Saudi-UAE alliance. Both Isaias and Abiy have been trying to lure Formaggio to the Horn of Africa block which is sponsored by Mohammed Bin Zayed, the UAE crown prince.

Formaggio who is now considered the third angle of the mysterious Abiy-Isaias triangle, is visiting Eritrea for the third time since July 2019, twice in this month alone.

So far, the information about the meetings is kept secret and after each meeting, only scanty information is unofficially disclosed. While the vague official reports contain only redundant diplomatic terms like, “discussion of mutual development, economic, and security cooperation, etc.”

Eritrea is the only country among the three that doesn’t have a parliament, or a constitution and it never held an election. Since 1991, the unelected president Isaias Afwerki has been ruling Eritrea though his PFDJ party.

Regional analysts believe the “economic discussions among the three leaders revolved around the joint security and development aid funds provided by the UAE… both Eritrea and Ethiopia are procuring arms.”

Eritrean sources informed Gedab News that, “the three leaders allied with the UAE hold frequent meetings to discuss allocation of funds for their joint security and military projects after they receive studies conducted by delegated commissions.”

Based on the joint military and security cooperation agreement, Eritrea has already received a portion of the UAE provided funds to cover the cost of training hundreds of Somali soldiers in Eritrea. Our reporters also indicated that Ethiopian forces are being trained in Eritrea. However, it’s is not known whether the training is officially sanctioned by the Ethiopian government or a clandestine operation.

A few weeks ago, the first batch of Somali soldiers graduated after finishing the necessary training.

Tense military situation 

Meanwhile, the Ethiopian-Eritrean border is witnessing an extensive military movement in several regions. While thousands of troops are amassed in North Ethiopia south of the Tigrai region, similar activities were observed close to the Ethiopian and Eritrean border.

Unconfirmed reports indicate that the tense situation between the Tigrai region and the federal Ethiopian government is “untenable and it could snap [anytime] risking a military clash.” The same applies to the feud between the Eritrean and Tigrai regional governments “both of whom appear determined to finish off the other.”

The reports also indicated that Eritrean refugees with military background are being organized and trained in the region. Several Eritrean officers who abandoned the regime and lived in many parts of the world have traveled to Ethiopia.

In the last few months, the Tigrai government has completely disarmed several older Eritrean armed groups that operated in the region. Only two small groups remain with a small armed forces.

Meanwhile, many Eritrean opposition movements are getting organized. Diaspora opposition movements are attracting many people to their ranks and they have established branches all over the world. Several of them are planning to transform their movements into political parties.

In addition, the large opposition parties and organizations are planning for “a decisive meeting to reorganize and revitalize the almost frozen opposition umbrella known as the Eritrean National Council for Democratic Change, or come up with an alternative umbrella group.”

Seesaw between Qatar and the UAE 

Last year, Isaias switched his allegiance to the UAE and abandoned Qatar, a country with which he maintained an excellent relation for many years.

Beginning in 2019, Eritrea has accused Qatar twice of trying to destabilize the country from the Sudanese territories. The Eastern region of Sudan which is adjacent to Eritrea has been going through political crisis since the  overthrow of the Al-Bashir regime in April 2019.

The final blow to the relations between Qatar and Isaias Afwerki came in a press release issued by the Eritrean government on Nov. 28, 2019, that leveled ten accusations against Qatar. The accusations rang from supporting and regrouping the Eritrean opposition forces to planning the assassination of Eritreans leaders.

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  • Solomon

    Selam Awatistas,

    I am seeing some false narration about what DR. Debretsion said today by the usual suspects. He said nothing new. Here are some excerpt.

    The people of Tigray paid more for Ethiopia than they got . The house of people representatives before your mandate expiry be decisive to condemn what is being done to Tigray. If not you are going to be condemned in the future for being part of the disintegration of Ethiopia.Either confirm there is still federalism in Ethiopia or declare Tigray is not part of Ethiopia .

    What the federal government is doing must change. The choice we have is not of begging or appeasing but mutual respect of each other and deciding together. At this juncture in time no body can accept domination from anyone. If you are thinking of dominating you have to know the right of the Tigray people to decide their freedom is in their hands.

    Even grasshoppers came to Tigray thinking it is time to attack but failed, so new hopefuls please take notice from them.

    The Ethiopian government is working for Eritrean refugees not to enter Tigray and live in the camps. But there is no door that can be closed by Tigray government and TPLF. No body can close Tigray for Eritreans. Come it is your country. Eritrean defense forces can come also.

  • mokie berhe

    Salam All. 19 Feb New Business Ethiopia: ‘Dr. Abiy met with the leaders on Tuesday at his office in Addis Ababa where the leaders of Prosperity Party in Tigray region raised several issues, according to the state broadcaster – ETV. The leaders involve Abraham Belay (PhD.), who was CEO of Ethiopian Electric Power (EEP) and recently appointed as Minister of Innovation and Technology.’

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Mokie
      አታ፡ወዲ፡ጥዕና፡ዶሎካ?
      Why don’t you mind you own business
      Why are so obsessed with TPLF and Tigray?
      What are trying to prove?or who are you trying to please?
      Your country is destroyed beyond recognition
      The would be engineers ,professors ,physicians are Languishing in refuge camps, dying every where
      No higher education ,high school student can Not even do basic arithmetics ,can not right their name properly, your Demi god is destroying the country in and out ,here you are with your evil intention to the people of Tigray,are you jealous ?
      Eritrea is having negative population.
      really this is not healthy.
      ዐዲ፡ቀባሪ፡ጠፊኡ፡አሮግቶጥራይ፡ተሪፎም
      And here your Are obsessed with TPLF
      why ?can you just give one reason so that I can understand you
      Badume AH give you the real history even with that eventually it will come to the owner of the land
      and you did not give why are not worried about Eritrean land going to Tigray when Badume is return back to Eritrea
      Think about the Lost generation
      Who is going to govern the country in the feature with out educated youth ?this should be your worry not TPLF or Tigray
      Do You sleep with out thinking about TIGRAY ?
      Let me give you some real ሀገራዊነት፡from the book of ሰለሞን፡ጸሃ
      ጐበዝዶ ፡ይዋዘ
      ዓዱ፡ኸይሓዘ
      About the people who sacrifice their youth
      Her he say
      እምኒ፡ተተርኢሶም፡ሐመድ፡ተነጺፎም
      ንዓኺ፡ክደልዩ፡አብ፡ጎቦ፡ተሪፎም
      Dear think about them and your country

      • Gebremedhin Yohannes

        Selam Mokie
        Do you want to know why Eritrean lands are still under Ethiopian occupation
        Her is the insider scope who was once
        The right hand is the cruel man Andebrhan W
        “President Isaias had blundered In to plunging the country in the abyss is senseless hostilities with out prior consultation with the PFFJ central council ,the Eritrean National Assembly and the Eritrean cabinet ministers.further more
        He had as a commander in chief mismanaged the conduct of the war and dragged the country down in the indignity of desaströs military reversal and the continued occupation of its sovereign territory “
        So blame Isaias my dear for all the disaster inEritrea
        I invite you to listen Redie Meharena Alene Media about the intention of Isaias about Eritrea
        You have a mole inside the country your attention should at the main cause of the misery of the country
        a malignant disease

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Gebremedhin,

          I think the Eritrean people have been fighting Isayas Afeworki all through out his existence. Unfortunately so far, he has won.

          But I don’t think you should the assumption, fighting him is lost or not a priority for the ERITREAN people.

          But what’s important also, in order to have a lasting peace with our neighbour, Tigray, it’s important that they try their best to resolve the issue. Just because Eritrean people at our disadvantage position, it doesn’t mean that we should not raise any issue that we went to court to, be forgotten.

          It would be helpful, if Tigray should call IA bluff and do the right thing. Otherwise, talking peace in one hand and occupying land that was ruled against is different thing, and IA is using it to his advantage.

          Berhe

  • mokie berhe

    Salam all. It is the right time to commence reducing/cutting off the fuel supply to the TPLF.

  • mokie berhe

    Salam all. Borkena article: ‘Arena opposition party executive member attacked in Tigray, north Ethiopia’ -Arena Tigray opposition party accuses Tigray Peoples Liberation Front of perpetrating attacks on members and non-members in northern Ethiopia.-

  • Abi

    Hello All
    Great News from The Tigray Kingdom!!!!
    Let all liberation lovers rejoice!!
    Tigray is inching closer to full independence.
    Hallelujah!!!

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Abi
      So Are you ready then to write in ቁቤ
      You know where the origin of ግእዝ is
      No more የያሬድ፡ዜማ
      No more ዘርያእቆብ፡ዘፈላሰፋው
      No more the Axumite kingdom
      No more the 3000 years history
      Then your የጸሀዩ፡ንጉስ Solomonic dynasty is fake
      No more የጥቁር፡አፍሪካ፡መመኪያ፡የድዋ፡ድል
      No more የማይጨው፡ጦርነት
      No more የመተማ፡የደጉአሊ፡ድል
      So which Ethiopia are going to boast
      I hope you are joking
      So all this cry about Eritrea secession was not for the “we are the same people” but just for the ports and red see
      የለም፡ጌታው፡ቢያሰቡበት፡ይሻላል

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ

    ኢሳያስ ሓደ ጥራይ ነይኮነ ንኤርትራ ዘድክማ
    ኣለውዋ ኮይኑ ዝስምዖም ዝተነጽጉ ሔማ
    ደቃ ምምርሳሕ ኮይንዎም መዓልታዊ ዕላማ
    እናፈጠሩ ናይ ዓርሶም ናይ ጣዕሶም ድራማ
    ንኤርትራዊ ዘልግቡ ሕማሞም ብድግማ
    ከጽርዩ ዝደልዩ ብወያናዊ ኣተሓሓኽማ

    ንህዝቢ ኣጸሊሞም ንባዕሎም ዝጽዕድዉ
    ዝመስሎም ኩሉ ዓሻ፡
    ዘይበልዕ ከምኦም ደፍዲፉ በርበረ ምስ ጨዉ

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Haile
      Do you mind if you clarify the message here.?

      • Nitricc

        Hey Gebremedhin; you too huh? are you having difficulty understanding with the real Eritrean Tigrigna? I understand, I have no idea what Haile said either. don’t feel bad. lol

      • Haile S.

        ሰላም ገብረመድህን፡

        ጽሑፈይ ይምልከት ነቶም ዝልክሙ
        ንኹሉ ዝብክሉ ንሓደ ሓደ ንኸሃርሙ
        ንባዕሎም ተጸሊእዎም ንኻልእ ዘሕሙሙ
        ብፈሊጥ ኮነ ብዘይ ፈሊጥ ኤርትራ ዘዳኽሙ

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Haile
          And who are thy?
          I wish you guys know who the main cause of the ill of the country is .
          You have a guy there a mole destroying the country in and out here we are infighting on the internet against individuals
          My dear better focus on the main problem,this man is destroying the country like a malignant disease destroy a human being silently
          I invite to listen Redie Meharena recent YouTube ,he will explain to you who the problem is.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam GY,

            There are some of our brothers who understand, that protecting the despot and his regime, is protecting the nation and its people. Very strange.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H I rather protect a despot than selling country and my soul for a foreign entity. Are you getting tried to running after weyane thugs? there will be a judgment day though. I hate to break it you but TPLF nothing but dead, you will serve them anyways. do us part is the order.

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Nitric
            This is to be a catholic more than the pope
            you are blaming AH about Eritrea ?
            Please be civil like Hshela told the other day
            He know the country in and out spent his youth for that country
            Unlike you who know Eritrea on a Map or YouTube or TV .
            you can have your say decently ,why do insult people ?

          • Nitricc

            He know the country in and out spent his youth for that country

            That is true but What is the point? now he is attacking the country day and night for the interest of TPLF thugs. he more weayne than the weyane themselves and can’t be talking about Eritrea.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            There is a word for what you just aptly described. And the word is, “Confused.”

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Haile
      Let me ask you one question which bother me all the time,I grew up north and central Ethiopia because of my father work in a way I am happy I have an open mind
      I know the Amharic speakers have different accents and dialects never seen any Gonder lounging at the Gojame or wollene
      Oromo have different accents and dialects never seen the Hareri lounging at the Shewa Oromo or the wolega laughing at the Aarisi Oromo
      Same as with wurage
      Same her in America The New Yorker does lough at the southern accents or dialects or at the Bostonian accent
      What is the problem with Eritrean mind
      you can see as you go further from Asmara every one is looking down and lounging with the accent or dialect of the other
      Since you are a learned man can tell me why and what the problem is ?
      Any body ca have a say
      I look forward

      • Haile S.

        Selam Gebremedhin,

        There is no problem with Eritrean mind, if at all what you call ‘Eritrean mind’ exist. The problem is in your mind. There is a proverb that goes like this “when you want to drown your dog, you accuse it of having rabies”. When you want to destroy Eritreans, you make a mountain out of a mole hill. The day you get rid of this sickness, we can converse normally, otherwise please stop your sometimes soothing sometimes hurting words. You don’t know me. Don’t assume things. I am not your ‘you guys’. Get rid of your prejudices.

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Haile
          Are trying to intimidate me
          It is clear who have the the prejudice
          Not me
          No intention on hurting any body
          I don’t know you You don’t know me too it goes both way
          Sometimes truth hurt
          It is ok stop her
          Focus on the big agenda

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Gebremedhin Yohannes,
        Are you seriously saying that people do not make fun of other peoples’ accents and dialects in Ethiopia? Of course they do. They do it in Germany between their different regions, the Dutch and the welsh, the different cities of Italy, in the US and everywhere else. Moreover, people in capital or big cities make fun of everyone else. The young make fun of their elders’ language. One should be able to shrug the mockery off and be confident that what they say is more important than how they say it.

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Abrehet
          No dear I grew up in central and northern Ethiopia you are not going to tell me the Amharas laughing at each other accent no thy don’t make It fun In derogatory Way
          The Eritrean do it , And Are you trying to tell me to look down people based on their accent is a
          acceptable no my dear that is total wrong .
          If some other Europe do it are we going to accept as a norm because thy are white ? that is not right, no it is wrong .
          I am not ashamed by my accent no I am proud of my self and my parents and my area ,that is not the point ,you have to be able to say wHat is wrong ,wrong
          Thanks

      • Teodros Alem

        selam gy
        Stop lying, they all Laugh and make fun of it, it is not a big a deal, even tigraian from mekele laugh at raya tigragn.
        even english, franch and so on do that and is just nothing and not a big deal. Only in u guys mind it is a big deal.

  • Selam All,

    Independent tigray? No, nobody is yet ready for that; not Tygrayans and not Ethiopians, for sure. It seems that it is a rhetoric that comes from tigrayan ultra-nationalists and agazians, and those who can’t look forward into the future, but only backwards into the foggy faraway past.
    Some rational Tygrayans say that independence is insanity, and there aren’t the right political, economic, social and cultural justifications for it. Not only that, when three quarters of tigray’s budget comes from the central government, secession is a luxury.
    Such rational people may seem to be few, but they are the silent majority, the voiceless and those who live the reality on the ground, the farmer, the trader, laborer, even intellectuals, etc, who are fed up of sacrifices, themselves and their children.
    More interesting is the fact that Tplf, as a party, is said to avoid the secessionist rhetoric, at least for the time being. Saving the Constitution and ethnic federalism are more important issues for tplf than independence, and secession floats much more outside tplf than inside it, at least when seen from the outside. Maybe this way it is politically right. Therefore, it is tigrayan ultra-nationalists and agazians, who do not care at all for the wellbeing of the ordinary citizen, that are infatuated with independent (greater) tigray. On the contrary, i think that it doesn’t attract ordinary tigrayans.
    The other point is that as some people ask, if one can consider tygrayans as homogenous and inward looking people, as they are supposed to be. Centuries of contact with others may have impacted their feeling against isolation.
    What would the federal government do in case of secession and how the world community will react is a million dollars question, in case tigray goes for independence.
    Therefore, there are more questions than answers. In addition, the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence.

    • Paulos

      Selam Horizon,

      Sometime I wonder why we are discussing the issue when it is a non issue. The people you mentioned are fringes and do not have broader ideological constituencies, they are just noises here and there.

      As you have aptly put it, there is no sound rationale for Tigrai or any other part of Ethiopia to secede including historical justification. Moreover, Tigrai is not homogeneous where the Kunamas, Irobs and Afars have the full right to object or endorse if the issue is not only floating around or being entertained by the higher up political echelon. They are better off if they stay put for it will be the end of Tigrai if the joke turns into a serious consideration.

      • Abi

        Paul
        Have you seen the thousands of people cheering Dr DebreTsion calling unity with Eritrea and leaving Ethiopia?
        You are kind of slow this morning.
        Get your double espresso and follow the news from the Tigray Republic.
        DebreTsion is onto something.
        I hope you , Amanuel and Samuel ( the three blind mice) comment on it.
        Yes, you guys are blinded by tplf love.
        I support Dr DebreTsion and his thousands of cheerleaders.

        • Paulos

          Abination,

          The Weyanes are obviously standing in the way between me and the two my fav people in this Forum—Abination and Hailat. And if Debretsion is in fact into something to that effect, I will sign up with ብልጽግና Party and will send my CV to Ahmed if he can find me something to help him with his fight against the Weyanes.

          • Abi

            Paul
            I always love you.
            I never allow anything between us. You and I ልብ ለልብ!

        • Nitricc

          Hey Abiy; Tigray and Depretsion are just talking out of fear and desperation. His fear was exposed when he call out on Eritrean Army. he said word by word ” the Eritrean Army Tigray is your home” they sh!!!!!ting. who will call on the army of anther sovereign nation. They are shaking in fear and confused.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            This is the point and now we know who is inviting a foreign army and a foreign force to interfere in ethiopia poltics and that is tplf, not 3A.

      • Selam Paulos,

        This is what i read today on the BBC Amharic site. I think today or yesterday at a gathering at mekelle, on the 45th anniversary, Dr. Debretsion said:
        “በኢትዮጵያ እየተከሰተ ያለው ጣልቃ ገብነት እንዲሁም በትግራይ ላይ ያለው ጥላቻ የማይስተካከል ከሆነ ትግራይ ራስዋን የቻለች አገር ናት ብላችሁ ልታውጁ ይገባል” ሲሉ ትግራይን ወክለው በህዝብ ተወካዮች ምክር ቤት ለሚገኙ አባላት ዶ/ር ደብረፅዮን ገብረሚካኤል መልዕክት አስተላለፉ።
        ይህ የማይሆን ከሆነ ትግራይ ራሷን የቻለች አገር መሆኗን ወስኑ፤ አውጁ።”

        What to expect is really difficult to say. Declaring independence in our case is a very serious issue, but as you can see, it is easily said for relatively minor reasons that could be corrected with discussions with the federal government. The situation is volatile, there is too much political game that could get out of control, and i don’t know who will clean at the end the unfortunate mess.

        • Paulos

          Selam Horizon,

          That is really a big surprise. Will have to see the video clip if there is one and if it was taken out of context. That said however, that kind of step will create division with in the TPLF leadership for many will not go easy with it that could ultimately divide TPLF into factions.

          Moreover, even if the Constitution guarantees to that extent, theoretically, Abiy can come after them including Isaias as they will have been a Republic by then. In every way one looks at it, it is craving for a historic disaster and I really doubt if Debretsion meant it but could have said it to arouse populist sentiment and to keep the rhetoric against Abiy going lest it subsides till the election day.

          • Solomon

            Selam Paul and Ato Amanuel,

            Your hunches are right. What Dr. Debretsion is saying that you are neglecting Tigray as if it is not part of Ethiopia. So he is challenging the Parliament to condemn the naked aggression of PIA before their mandate expiry on the coming few months.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Solomon & Samuel,

            I listened to the speech. It isn’t the way I was afraid of. It is more on reflecting and sending your grievances to the central government. Besides, I listened a different YouTube where the representative of both kilils ( the Amara & Tigray) met with the PM to convey their grievances. His reply seems more or less is going to address them. I think they will come to their senses and hopefully will cut down the unnecessary painful talks.

          • Solomon

            Selam Ato Amanuel,

            Yes nothing new in the speech.

            The people who spoke with the prime minister are not representatives of Tigray but Prosperity party Tigray branch organization comity. In other words Abiy’s puppets for Tigray. Abiy is planning to give them a boost by releasing the Tigrean political prisoners in their name and try to divide and concur Tigray. It is good news if he released the prisoners this or that way.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Horizon,

          Could it be a rhetorical reaction to the Prime minister’s speech at Bale? I don’t think it will happen.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            You got it wrong again!
            As a proven liberation fighter you should support the liberation of the Greater Tigray.
            The Historical speech at the stadium was accepted with standing applause.
            I checked the comments on social media and it has gained a huge support from Ethiopians with the majority saying ጥርግ ይበሉ!!
            The question should be how can we expedite this process?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ras Abi,

            What happen to you, man? It will be a bad precedence to the rest of your kilils. I hope the Ethiopian politicians will come to their senses. Don’t dash the hope of the ordinary Ethiopian people.

          • Samuel

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            My reading is it was just to get the attention of the center, they (parliament) haven’t said anything about the hateful messages against Tigray, thus he wants them to say something. He should stop such kind of unnecessary rhetoric. Secession isn’t going be like what Eritrea did, it will be costy to the whole country.

            By the way when such thing happens (secession) don’t expect the existing map will remain as is, a whole lot will be changed. Probably three or four countries will be created. It will be total disintegration.

            If the conspiracy continues then the other option is Darwinian, you take what you can. You can’t just leave the elephant intact and wait to be attacked. If they don’t care about you then why would you care about the rest. If we let the rest to stay as is then it means declaring war against ourselves, we have enough history what the center can do when they are intact. Its not happening. Who would forget what Menelik, HS and Derg did to us, thus if the conspiracy continues it won’t be about article 39, it will be about survival. I hope Ethiopians get into their sense.

            I think the false propaganda is losing traction, most Ethiopians are losing hope in Abiy, I expect new realignment.

            Thanks,

          • Nitricc

            Hi Samuel; I know you people are impossible but what PMAA said in Bale was directly at Jawar. I mean, I know you people can be slow but gdiam, chill out. Everything what PMAA said was directed at Jawar, go line by line and that what you get. You guys are so eager to create an enemy. what do you mean when you said..

            Secession isn’t going be like what Eritrea did, it will be costy to the whole country.

          • Samuel

            Selam Nitricc,
            Sorry, I mean to say “Independence”…

            Thanks,

        • Solomon

          Selam Horizon,

          What Dr. Debretsion said is to the whole Parliament to condemn the interference by Eritrean president on the internal affairs of Ethiopia before their mandate expiry after few months.

          • Selam Solomon,

            I think that “ትግራይን ወክለው በህዝብ ተወካዮች ምክር ቤት ለሚገኙ አባላት ዶ/ር ደብረፅዮን ገብረሚካኤል መልዕክት አስተላለፉ” means what it says, and nothing else.

          • Solomon

            Selam Horizon,

            May be the BBC Amharic translation is wrong intentionally. He addressed the whole HOP representatives.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Paulo,

        So you are saying, Kunama and Afar are part of Tigray. I have heard about Irob but I didn’t think there was any legitimacy of the claim of Kunama and Afar.

        I know why the Tigray elite so say, it’s inline with their Abay Tigray agenda.

        They want Kunama so they can claim their fertile land including Badime. They want Afar so they claim access to the Red Sea.

        Paulo, I want to hear your honest opinion and your clear stand on this. You sound like you have drunk the cool-aid of abay Tigray.

        Berhe

        • Haile S.

          ሰላም በርሀ፡

          ጳውሎስ ‘ዓይኒ የብለይ ስኒ የብለይ’ እዩ ዝተሃራረም ዘሎ። ብቐዳማይ Ingrato ካብ ዝብለና እኮ ኣይጠዓየን። ብቕድሚ ትማሊ ደቢስዎ Intelligenziaና ብጎዞሞ ዳርጋ ፈሊጽዎ። ሓድሽ ትግራዋይ ካብ ደብረጽዮን ንላዕሊ ይሕለቕ ዝበሃል ምስላ ሓቂ እኮ ኾይኑ።

          • Paulos

            ኣታ ሃይላት ሓወይ በቃ ሓደ ደርጋፍ ሓሲብካኒ ዓይኒብለይ ስኒ ብለይ ትብለኒ’ለኻ? እንታ’ይሞ ክንብል ምስ ደገዝማቲ መን ተሟጓቲ ኢለሞ ‘ቶም ለባማት ኣያታትና.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ፓል።

            ደርጋፍ! ዘይወጸኒ! እንተትኸውን እሞ፡ ባዕልኻ ምወደቕካ እሞ፡ መልዓልናካ እኳ። ንስኻ ግና Thai boxing እንዳተሃራረምካ መን ክቐርበካ! ኣነሲ እንዳ ፍረዝጊ classical boxing እዩ ተማሂሩ እየ ዝብል ነይረ።

          • Berhe Y

            አንታ ሃይላት

            አነስ ኮምኡ አይምበልኩን፡፡ መዓልቲ መዓልቲ ቁድስ ዮሃንስ ኮይኑ እዩ ዝስምዖ ዘሎ ቓውሎሳይ፡፡ ንግሆ ንግሆ ተስኡ ነዞም ወያነ ክውድስ ድቃስ ስኢኑ፡፡ እዘን አዋልድ ዓድና ተዘኪረናኒ፡፡
            አያይ ወርቂ ሰዓቱ ብሩር መረባዓቱ፡፡

            ንዓእንውን ደርፍኺን ቀይርኦ ምበለን ነሩ፡፡
            ወያነ ወርቂ ሰዓቱ ብሩር መረባዓቱ፡፡

            በርሀ

        • Paulos

          Selam Berhino,

          Are you for real saying that there are no Kunama in Tigrai? Kunama are both in Tigrai and Eritrea as much as there are Oromos in Ethiopia and Kenya; Somalis in Ethiopia, Kenya and Somalia. The same goes with Saho or Irob in Eritrea and Tigrai.

          My stand is crystal clear: Eritrea is independent and sovereign nation, period! There is no going back including any phoney deal as in Tigrai-Tigrigni claptrap or Agazian mambojambo.

          ቅሰን ፍራቴሎ ምሳኻ እየ ዘለኹ!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I know Eritrea is independent and there is nothing anyone can do about it. I know the logic you are using to justify but I didn’t know for real if there are any Kunama or Afar who are part of Tigray.

            Tigray map has been altered many times, specially since the TPLF come to power and they have been taking over lands that is suitable for them and their long term plans, as an example how they made Tigray boarder with Sudan.

            I hate to see Eritrea being played in some of their chess games. I even hate to see an Eritrean like yourself, playing along their games and advancing their plans.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; you forgot to ask the real question. If there Kunama of Tigryan; why were placed in a refugee comp. Remember; the first occupants of the refgee camps were the Kunama; why? if they are Tigryans what was the reason to dumb them in a refugee comp?

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ሰብ ዱግሪ

    ቀዳምነት ጸገሙ
    ምርዳእ ዝሰኣኒ ህዝቢ
    ምስ ግዜያዊ ህቦብላ ሰዓቢ
    ብዘይ ፈረስ ጋላቢ
    ንኡስ ኮነ ዓቢ
    ካባናሲ ይሓይሽ ‘ዶ ሓቀይ ንህቢ?
    ዝገርምዩ

    ዝኣምንዎ ‘ለዉ ነዚ ለመጭ ኣቢ
    ሰላማዊ ክመስል ክፍኣቱ ጎልቢቡ ብጋቢ
    ጽባሕ ግን መን ‘ዩ ተረካቢ????

    መን ‘ዩ በታቲኑና
    መን ‘ዩ ዝሰጎገና
    ካብ ሃገርና
    መን ‘ዩ ዝቐየራ ኤርትራ ናብ ዑና
    መን ‘ዩ ደምኛና????
    ዓቢ ዓርገን ‘ዶ ‘ይ ኮነን

    ናይ ሓምሳ ዓመት ፕላን ተሸኪሙ ከጥፈኣና
    ነዚ ምፍላጥ ስኢና?
    ኤእ! ምሁራት ኢና
    ኣይትበሉ ምሁራትና

    እዚ ዘይትፈልጡ
    ተሓንጠጥኩም ኢልንግሊዝኛ
    ‘ንታይ ‘ዩ ክኾነና?
    ናታትኩምሲ ይትረፈና
    ክንድዚ ውርደት ‘ዶ ‘ሎ ‘ዩ ወደይ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mehandsay,

      Spot on. Keep up the flow.

  • mokie berhe

    Salam All. According to TPLF logic, Azeb Mesfin would make a good Prime Minister for the Republic of Tigray, for she is filthy rich and would therefor not be subject to corruption. Seyoum Mesfin (Minister for Life), also filthy rich, could serve as President. Their Mesfin team leadership could thereafter be referred to as the M&Ms (Red & Yellow).

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mokie,

      While you are worshiping for a despot who claim for a life long President In Eritrea, why do you have a concern about the leadership of Tigray? Are you really an Eritrean? You should be a Tigrian who concern about the pain of Tigray people than the pain of the Eritrean people. You never talk about the pain of the Eritrean people under the shackles of the regime.

      • mokie berhe

        Salam Amanuel Hidrat. To the contrary. I have criticized the PIA/PFDJ regime several times. At the same time, it is the TPLF that is continuing to illegally occupy Eritrean land. .

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mokie,

          Are you more concerned about Badume than the suffering of the Eritrean people? Do you consider Issayas as a dictator who rules the Eritrean people under his tight grip without rule of law? If you do, don’t you need to fight against his regime? Though you don’t criticize the regime in this website, to “criticize” is not the same as to “fight” against this criminal mafia regime.

          • mokie berhe

            Salam Amauel Hidrat. You must be blind and deaf because I have criticized the PIA/PFDJ regime several times; maybe you did not pay attention because I did not choose to sleep with the TPLF at the same time.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mokie,

            You know, you are BS. Answer my questions? Otherwise, you are one of the enablers. You asked me and I answered your question straightforward.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi mokie,

            In your opinion what do you think the Eritrean people (including EPLF, ELF, PFDJ, Sawa, government officials etc) should do to get rid of the IA regime and save Eritrea.

            Berhe

          • mokie berhe

            Salam Berhe Y. I have to run now but will try to answer you tomorrow.

          • mokie berhe

            Salam Berhe Y. Opposition groups have long lacked a much-needed common approach/strategy to overcome their division of forces. At least within the short-term, especially with Badme remaining a key/unresolved issue, that is highly unlikely to change. Where I do see a greatly missed opportunity to launch a neutral attack against the PIA/PFDJ regime, and one that does not involve violence in any manner, is by taking the U.N. apparatus inside of Eritrea truly to task and holding them fully accountable for what they are organizationally mandated to perform but fail so miserably in doing. Eritrea since 1991, has been a hot spot for U.N. agencies (as well as diplomatic corps in general) with regards to several U.N. agency heads having been declared persona non grata over the years; oftentimes with little or no prior notification. U.N. Resident Coordinators and U.N. specialized agency representatives assigned to Eritrea, have not been really occupied with fulfilling their organizational mandates per se, but have instead been conditioned to only perform in a manner which enables their survival in the presence of a dictatorial regime, to be used as a yardstick measurement for their success. And, nobody but nobody has held the U.N. apparatus inside of Eritrea accountable for their action of lack of action in this regard.

            If one is to look at any U.N. global vulnerability map, they will quickly notice that a few countries (i.e. Eritrea, North Korea, Iran) are not color coded. It is not that the U.N. is not cognizant of desperately needed humanitarian assistance in these countries, for they at least have some data sets to support such, but rather they are simply reluctant to come public with such information for they perceive it as a threat to their organizational presence and survival. In Eritrea for example, it is very evident from UNICEF Eritrea country briefs, that Severe Acute Malnutrition {SAM} (in limited areas that UNICEF has actual access to) is an extremely serious problem. Yet, UNICEF which also serves as the Global Nutrition Cluster Coordinator, simply refuses to include Eritrea on its global nutrition overlays, reports and maps. UNICEF needs to be pressed as to why they fail do so and to also provide information of geographic areas of the country for which they are not allowed physical access to perform much needed nutritional assessments.

            The U.N. World Food Programme has incredibly maintained an office in Asmara with no project/programme activities (save a small pilot transport exercise to Sudan) since 2006, at which time it had USD 36 million (more than 110,000 MT) worth of food grain and other commodities seized from its warehouses by the PFDJ without compensation. WFP without doubt is aware of major general food commodity deficits in Eritrea and prevailing high levels of Moderate Acute Malnutrition (MAM) yet, and not unlike UNICEF, they fail to report the precarious situation on global food security overlays, report and maps. WFP needs to be pressed as to why they are remaining in Eritrea while performing absolutely no project/programme activities and as to why they are remaining silent on the food insecurity situation in country. The PFDJ has long refuted WFP food in kind but why are Cash & Vouchers as an option not being pursued? WFP needs to be pressed to give answers in regard as to why they are knowingly allowing a large percentage of Eritrea’s population to remain food insecure without ever sounding the alarm bells.

            UNFPA? What are they really doing in Eritrea? Can they not be pressed to publicly come out with clear population estimates for Eritrea derived from triangulation of interpolate data sources? If UNFPA is encountering constraints from the PFDJ in performing their mandate, they need to come clean and public in this regard!

            WHO activities have long been subject to constraints by the PFDJ, especially in terms of access to perform needs assessments. WHO tends to only report ‘achievement’ and ‘success’ stories on limited areas for which they have access. WHO remains irresponsibly quiet on areas for which they are denied access but yet clearly know to be in dire need of assistance. WHO needs to be pressed to come public in regards to constraints which they face in their day-to-day dealings with the PFDJ and to report on areas of the country for which they are prevented from providing coverage.

            FAO, which also serves as the Co-Lead of the Global Food Security Cluster, not unlike UNICEF and WFP, totally omits Eritrea from its global vulnerability overlays, reports and maps. Over the past month, FAO has been sounding the alarm bells for needed funding for the Horn of Africa to deal with the massive problem of desert locust swarms which also impacts Eritrea. FAO is receiving massive funding to respond to the desert locust swarm problem, but yet they are not including Eritrea within their financial allocation plans? Why not? Why is FAO not coming public in terms of how the locust swarms will impact Eritrea’s pastoralists and cropping situation?

            The United Nations Country Team (UNCT), under the overall coordination of the UNDP Resident Coordinator (RC), is supposed to ensure inter-agency coordination and decision making in Eritrea. However, nobody but nobody is critically holding the RC accountable for the actions/inaction of specialized U.N. agencies which make up the UNCT. The RC needs to be publicly pressed -very hard- for accountability in this regard.
            At the UN New York and Geneva levels, the lack of U.N. agency accountability inside Eritrea, needs to be actively addressed to:

            Mark Lowcock, United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator and the Head of the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs

            Ms. Mervat Shelbaya, Head of the United nations Inter-Agency Standing Committee (ISAC) who works with the U.N. Emergency Director’s Group.

            A last comment re the ELF/EPLF old wounds…..they need to be left aside. Method of approach and attack against the PIA/PFDJ regime, should preclude mentioning/referencing either the ELF or EPLF and should instead focus on the PFDJ; especially post 2001.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear mokie,

            Thank you so much and I really appreciate you took the time to respond and have a very good and viable and concrete way to fight the PFDJ.

            I hope Saay is reading this and you can give some guidance.

            I think our struggle needs to be focused and action oriented to inflict maximum damage to the regime.

            You are correct, at the end of the day, those UN officials look at their own interests first (their job security, well being of their family, lucrative salary, relatively luxurious life style) and they are looking to update their CV for their next placement, so why should they irritate the ERITREAN government?

            But you are correct, specially in the drawback of another UN appointee human rights report, it’s hard to reconcile and they need to be accountable.

            Berhe

    • Solomon

      Selam Mokie Berhe,

      As an Eritrean you should be more worried about Eritrea than Tigray. The probability of becoming Azeb Mesfin or Seyoum Mesfin prime minister/president of Tigray is much less than Abraham Isayas becoming the president of Eritrea .

  • Selam All,

    1) The President of Eritrea says that he is not an outsider in Ethiopian affairs,
    2) Tplf is outrageous about his announcement, and it says that it will cut his arm if he dares to meddle in Ethiopian internal affairs, especially against tplf. (I am not sure if Paulos’s link points to this issue or not).
    3) PMAA was in UAE for three days official visit, and he flew back to ethiopia with more than 100 illegal immigrants,
    4) IA is following suit and he is on an official visit to Saudi Arabia,
    5) The port of Assab is being rehabilitated by a Dubai Ports Company, and it seems that Eritrea wants a share of the about yearly $1bn pie, Djibouti has been enjoying for decades.

    What is the omen for the horn of Africa, good or bad?

    • Paulos

      Selam Horizon,

      I can not comment on Saudi Arabia or UAE for nobody knows what Abiy and Isaias signed for during the pompous ceremony a year and half ago including when they both got awarded what it looked like gold [or fake not sure] of garlands.

      I am not sure if you understand Tigrinya but Isaias in his last interview made it clear that he will work hard to destroy TPLF in a bid to change the Ethiopian Constitution for it was designed by the Weyanes. A leader of a foreign nation wants to change the Constitution of a foreign and sovereign nation! As you know, it is not going to be a walk in the park for it will take the lives of thousands of Eritreans to achieve that.

      TPLF is a sworn enemy of Abiy and Isaias but obviously not to the Tigrean people and they will fight to the end. That is clear. Now the question is how are Eritreans going to respond to the call for invasion by Isaias? This is historic of the highest magnitude.

      Some will support him when they say that Isaias is attacking the Weyanes to get Badme back when he is making it clear that his objective is to change on how Ethiopia ought to be governed. Again, this is the Eritrean tragedy of the highest proportion.

      As you know, strategy and tactics are like the Chinese chopsticks. They dance in a smart choreography where one is in sync with the other. Strategy is for a long term but tactics are not only for a short term but a typical Machiavellian where the tactics are means to an end.

      Now the deal is, will the Eritrean Opposition elect to make a tactical alliance with the Weyanes or with other Ethiopians who will fight back to preserve Ethiopia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity when Ethiopia is invaded by the very person who has mercilessly destroyed their dignity for twenty long years? Or fall-in line with Isaias to appease the remaining PFDJ sycophants? The choice is clear!

      Ethiopians including Abiy can destroy the Weyanes not through war or violence but through the ballot box. Eritreans can not destroy Isaias through the ballot box for they don’t have not only the institution but the Constitution as well. They need to look for other opportunities when opportunities presented themselves. Again, the historic choice is clear.

      • Selam Paulos,

        Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment.
        It has always been puzzling me and i have found no explanation, why two organizations that had fought together ended up deadly enemies. What transpired between IA and MZ that made them eternal enemies? Could there have been some sort of agreement in the field that one of the parties did not keep? Difficult to believe that the economy was the main reason. Of course, badme too, is in no way the reason.
        I don’t think that IA has the power to invade Ethiopia, and moreover the federal government has the obligation to defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ethiopia, and therefore, Tigray is in no danger from IA, despite all the rhetoric for war. There will be war in (with) tigray only if tplf is the initiator as a renegade Killil. Otherwise, i believe that Abiy will not allow a war that will destabilize the whole region. I am more or less sure about it. It will not be to his advantage, and revenge is out of the question.
        In addition, I don’t think that most Ethiopians want the Constitution as it is. The possibility is that the new government whether Abiy centered or somebody else, who believes that it should be amended, will do so, because many believe that it is a divisive Constitution, and not because IA wants it.

        I wish you could say few things on how MZ and IA, Tplf and Eplf/Pfdj from friends became deadly enemies.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Horizon,

          “ What transpired between IA and MZ that made them eternal enemies? Could there have been some sort of agreement in the field that one of the parties did not keep? Difficult to believe that the economy was the main reason. Of course, badme too, is in no way the reason.” I agree with this part of your comment. However, we will know it exactly, when the recent declaration of Issayas to “interfere in the Ethiopian politics” is materialized on the ground and the Eritrean blood start to shed for that purpose. Don’t you think so?

          • Selam Amanuel H.,
            I am asking the cause and not the result, about things that might have happened more than two decades ago. What IA will try to do today is another matter. It is the consequence of the disagreement that may have happened between IA and MZ (eplf/pfdj and tplf), that has put the two in deadly animosity of which we/i have no idea. Abiy came two yrs ago and he can’t be the explanation.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon & Ras Abi,

            Ras Abi: In other words, what I am saying is, if the despot goes in to a full blown war in the internal affairs of Ethiopia, then your assessment is right on target as to what they become furious to each other.

            Horizon: First the hate of the two organizations to each other is still continuing. And therefore, if the alliance of Issayas and Abiy leads in to a war, the result of it will explain the cause of the war. You could disagree, but I am saying the effect will explain the cause.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,
            Do you really entertain the possibility of war between IA+Abiy on one side against tplf? In my opinion, such war is unrealistic, irrational and improbable. Bravado aside, tplf doesn’t want it, and Abiy doesn’t want to lose credibility as a peace factor in the region. In addition, IA invading tigray is against the responsibility of the federal government. What i am afraid of is a tplf miscalculation, and starts war. Therefore, it is better if you advise tplf from making a foolish move by itself.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            First of all, I don’t know whether there will be a war or not, and you don’t know either. From the interview of the despot and from the questions you posed on us, we are assessing based on ifs. That is all. It is all in the hands of the leaders.

          • Solomon

            Selam Horizon,

            As their truck record of 45 years shows TPLF never miscalculated, it is always their enemies who miscalculated. Do you want their list. Mengistu, Esayas, Abiy, EPRP, EDU…

          • Teodros Alem

            selam solomon
            Mengistu, out of many reasons , mainly it is the work of the end of cold war and shabia.
            Esayas is still leading eritrea ever than before.
            Abiy, is thier big boss.
            eprp and edu, out of so many reasons, it is the work of mengistu.
            tplf only defeated TLF, tplf was and is always been a sidekicks. That is tplf truck record.

          • Solomon

            Selam Teodros,

            You can even say Derg is not defeated as Abiy said once upon a time.

            Essays is a dead man walking. You don’t know how much he has fallen from Grace. He was a hero and legend like no other man on Earth compared with the likes of Cheguvera, but after the war with TPLF he is reduced to a villain and dictator compared with the likes of Mengistu.

            Abiy, let alone to be boss of Tigray he is not boss of Oromia. Nowadays he can’t even travel to Ambo.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam solomon
            Don’t get angry, calm down, i can tell u r so sad and i think u know nothing.
            as we speak, There r a lot of rally going on in all over oromia supporting 3A.
            pia, that is how u feel about pia but eritreans who support him tell u otherwise and besides u were talking about who was the Winer 🙂

          • Solomon

            Selam Teodros Alem,

            I know you are weird, How do you know i am angry. Anyways nothing happened to TPLF. They are safe with their people. You know what those who were jailed because they were Tigreans are going to be freed soon also and they will join their compatriots in Tigray and serve the people whom they forgot for a long time.

            As for the rally supporting Abiy, if the supporters of other parties such as OFC, OLF, in Oromia, Balderas supporters in Adiss Ababa were free to rally you would have seen how Abiy’s supporters are insignificant.

            What i know about Issayas is some 25 years ago he was the most loved and respected president of his country but now he is the worst dictator in the world.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Ato Solomon(not GiTsatse for sure):
            I thought PIA brought “Dr:” AAA to the Menelik Palace after chasing out the TPLF from and quarantined the Hiwehat to Mekele.
            It is better NOT to go back to the war saga.
            .

          • Solomon

            Selam Ato Sultan M.G.

            I am not going to the war saga . I am just stating facts. Your PIA was in a coma waiting to die a natural death or to be deposed by the Eritrean people when Abiy come to his rescue.

            Abiy come to power due to the internal politics of Ethiopia.
            Abiy miscalculated a lot of things and one of his grave miscalculation is conspiring with wedi Afey to destroy TPLF. That gave TPLF a second chance and they are stronger than ever.

            TPLF quarantined in Mekele has given them a new life and a new purpose . The threat that come from Abiy and Isayas to the Tigrean people is being changed into opportunity fast.

          • mokie berhe

            Salam Solomon. The answer is simple: TPLF should withdraw from Badme. No if, ands or buts about it. Just withdraw. The path forward is clear.

          • Solomon

            Selam mokie berhe ,

            I didn’t speak about Badme. we were discussing about other things. why you change the subject?

          • Samuel

            Selam Sultan M.G.
            Can you elaborate how IA brought PMAA? Dr Abiy was part EPRDF executive committee, after Hailemariam resigned EPRDF voted to elect new leader and PMAA group won. How does IA brought PMAA? We all know the truth, what is the need to take credit when the facts aren’t there. If you really want to know more it was the United States who has played big role for the change. They sponsored the money, they worked closely with Abiy.
            What IA did was harboring G7, OLF and others, those political forces has played very minimum role, that role was probably to create some anarchy in some part of the country.
            The involvement of IA was later in the stage after PMAA voted. Abiy wanted to knee TPLF, thus he started to work with IA (G7 may have played role here).

            Thanks,

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            Fake news 1, u fantasize tigrai has its own army, other than police, militia and state trooper.
            Fake news 2, u really think tplf and the federal gov r enemies.
            Fake news 3, u think border issues is the issue of tigrai kilil , not federal gov job.
            Fake news 4, u really think federal gov of ethiopia will conspire with a foreign gov to attack it’s own kilil just because the administration of that kilil has different poltical stand.
            Fake news 5, u really think tigrai is under rabel called tplf controlled territory,
            Keep discussing fake news.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I think you are confusing to cause with the effect. The question remains what is the real cause for the deadly animosity between the two fronts.

        • Abi

          Hello Horizon
          I will volunteer to explain The rift between the two ተገንጣይና አስገንጣይ ወንበዴዎች .
          Meles showed Isu the door and told him to close it behind him.
          He gave him some millions as a ጎጆ መውጪያ::
          አትሸኟትም ወይ አትሸኟትም ወይ
          መሄዷ አይደለም ወይ
          Isu is still mad that he lost the golden opportunity to rule both countries as one.

        • sara

          selam ato horizon, allow me to to interject here….i am sure the big guys of the forum know better… but from what i heard PMM and PIA were never equals and were never friends…. one was small not only in stature but in many things , the other was vert tall … they never
          looked eye to eye…..but had convergent interests that PIA kept driving it upto that level that brought us to where we ended……you can take this for a start.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam sara
            R u talking about diversion or height?

          • Dear sara,
            Interesting point, indeed. I think i have heard that IA always saw MZ as his junior, and IA did not like the idea that the second ended up with a bigger country than himself. Nevertheless, during the first years (their honeymoon) IA was said to be in addis almost every weekend, and i don’t know when and why the breakup occurred.
            When you say that IA, felt more or less his boss and was demanding more than MZ could give, it seems plausible.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Horizon; it is simple. TPLF can’t be in absolute control in Ethiopia in the presence of Eritreans in Ethiopia, so, to gain full control, Eritreans has to leave Ethiopia by hook or crook. The second one is, if TPLF to stay in power for the next 100 years, TPLF has to show its mighty by destroying Shaebia. TPLF know the mentality of the Ethiopians when it comes to EPLF. So, breaking EPLF’s spinal cord was an insurance TPLF to be in power for a long time. The other reason the two got in argument was when TPLF declared the Tigray republic Shabia said We don’t Tigray republic; you are part of Ethiopia and the TPLF thugs never forgave Shabia. But the main reason is when Eritreans are present in Ethiopia, TPLF will never be on the driver side i.e. Eritreans has to go and the rest is history.

          • Abi

            General
            You are promoted to field Marshmallow for this comment.
            Yes Eritreans had to leave Ethiopia so that tplf does not need to share the loot. More importantly, Isu and his liberation party doesn’t dominate the seat at 4 kilo.
            The rest is history

        • Paulos

          Selam Horizon,

          Sure will try to highlight later on the day, God willing that is, the more palpable stark differences with in a historical context.

        • Paulos

          Selam Horizon,

          First, terse historical background.

          As you might now, EPLF or its hybrid was already 14 years old when TPLF launched an armed struggle in 1975. It was natural for EPLF to have not only a leverage over TPLF but to choose other Fronts in Tigrai as in EPRP and EDU over TPLF and provide military logistics as well to the latter for tactical reasons.

          If we back up a bit though, we can get a glimpse onto the factors that shaped up the Front that have become its enduring character to this day.

          The two main issues that had become the cause for the demise of the King’s regime were the “National Question” and the “Land Question.” At that time, the most vocal and intellectually studded EPRP opted for a “Maximalist” approach to address the two sticking issues through “Multi-National” struggle with in the Marxist Orthodoxy as in class-struggle ideological framework. On the other hand, Mi.E.So.N which was predominantly of Oromo extract whose base had come from France opted for “Gradualist” approach to the said issues when they realized that, public opinion was shifting in favour of the Dergue when it started to win the peasants through its “Land to the Tiller” policy. As such, Mi.E.So.N elected to work with the Dergue but EPRP refused, instead it got engaged in an urban warfare which resulted in the mayhem between the “Red Terror” and “White Terror” as it was poignantly known later on.

          With in these historical precedent, the nascent TPLF, not only took advantage by empowering itself when the said antagonists were weakening each other but opted to take a radically different approach. They framed their political ideology with in “Ethno-National” framework whereby rejecting the dominant notions of Proletarian Revolution and Pan-Ethiopian struggle in favour of a focus on the peasantry, an emphasis on the National Question, and an espousal of Tigrean Nationalism.

          And in a typical Maoist credo, they opted for a peasant based protracted people’s struggle as opposed to urban. Perhaps, the most important point that defined the Front is, when they took Lenin’s stand on the right of Ethnic groups to emancipate themselves from the oppression of other ethnic groups. And TPLF took the Leninist approach as a “Revolutionary” and the right of the Ethnic groups to free themselves as a form of “Democracy” and hence the Front’s defining credo “Revolutionary Democracy” to this day.

          As you can see, TPLF has always been deeply ideological where-as EPLF has always been ideologically vulgar if you will, but with a clear national objective–to see Eritrean independence to come to fruition by any means necessary. As such, early on, the relationship between the two not only became shaky but at best only when they had a common enemy to defeat. Defeat they did when TPLF refused to be seen as a junior partner but perhaps overly ambitious as in Premus Inter Pares as the Romans would say it, and Isaias’ intention to destroy them became more animated when he realized that they were his prime enemies who stood in his way for his grand personal ambitions. They got a bigger nation, he got a small one. He printed his own money thinking that he would get them and the Weyanes made the rate of exchange to float instead of a fixed exchange rate. And it became a boon to the Weyanes, and out of frustration, he decided to attack them and he lost when he hoped that, Ethiopia would be a dumping ground for Eritrea’s products.

          He lost politically, economically and militarily including diplomatically. He let his anger out on the Eritrean people till he found a partner to help him avenge his eternal enemies. We shall see if history repeats as it usually does or take a different course. If anything however, history favours those who side with the truth and the people as well.

          • Selam Paulos,
            Thanks a lot. It is really a great explanation. Good, I asked you.

          • Paulos

            Selam Horizon,

            Any time. My pleasure. Stay well.

          • Abi

            Paul
            Let me help summarize your comment for the impatient people to go through all 25 pages of ሀተታ.
            You said “…he realized that they were his prime enemies who stood in his way for his grand personal ambitions.”

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Thanks much. No wonder Aya Saleh was asking you to edit his book.

          • Abi

            Paul
            If I get a chance to edit “Of Kings and Bandits”, I will definitely kick out all the bandits and leave only the king. The book will be two pages long.

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            I love you ma bro 😂😂😂. That is so funny!

          • Abi

            Paul
            I love you too.

          • Samuel

            Selam Paulos,
            Brief and interesting historical perspective, even though there could be some events that may have added to their disagreements but I think overall it’s nice summary. Keep it up.

            You said…“TPLF has always been deeply ideological”. This is absolutely true, TPLF motto is “መስመር እዩ ሓይልና!!”. I have discussed with many non-Tigrian Ethiopians (intellectuals and businessmen), what I have understood is they don’t really know who TPLF is and how they operate. They just think TPLF is the same as any other political party in the country that can be demolished or merged easily.

            You said….“If anything however, history favors those who side with the truth and the people as well.” This is central to any struggle, one of the fundamental reason why EPLF and TPLF won against Derg was because they had the TRUTH, they fought for the right cause and they succeeded.

            Thanks,

          • Paulos

            Selam Samuel,

            True that I was just scheming over the genesis of their differences with-in historical contexts. But one can make the argument that, the 10 year anniversary of the Front as in 1985 heralded the rise of Meles to the mantle of power when he purged the erstwhile powerful personalities as in Aregawi Berhe and Gidey Zeratsion during what was then called ናይ ዓሰርተ ዓመት ግምገማ. And undertook on a purity of a Party line when the Front subscribed to Marxist Leninist League Tigrai–ማለሊት!

            Meles’ authoritarian proclivities carried him all the way to 2001 when the Eritrean question took the center stage to the extent of dividing into two groups including those who accused Meles of being an agent of the West and too soft on Eritrea when he refused to pursue the war to overthrow Isaias and his regime.

            When Meles came out victorious after he cleansed the Party line, power was transferred from Mekele to Addis, from the Party to the State and from focus on the Tigrean people to the elites of Amharas and Oromos instead. Moreover, Meles got disillusioned with the idea of Democracy after the controversial 2005 election and he learned the hard way that, his political survival depended on providing the people with a better life and carried on what it was called “State led Capitalism” when his signature became “Developmental State.”

            In the meantime however, Tigrai was forgotten and corruption started to creep into the Party’s machinations till it became a victim of its own making when it gave rise to the emergence of Abiy who had seen the Party from with in and managed to destroy it with a stroke of a pen and with a single push.

            That said however, Abiy was too haste to confuse TPLF with EPRDF and too dimwitted to hastily make enemies with the eternal enemies of TPLF. Abiy may have thought he knew TPLF too well except that he didn’t know the Front has a history of bouncing back from a cliff as it did in 85 and 2001 as well. And we will see if he has learned his lesson yet.

          • Samuel

            Selam Paulos,
            When Meles came out victorious after he cleansed the Party line, power was transferred from Mekele to Addis, from the Party to the State and from focus on the Tigrean people to the elites of Amharas and Oromos instead.”
            I completely agree, this was part of the reason why most Tigrians were against TPLF’s building empire in Addis, and they forgot Tigray. Today, TPLF is back to its sense, TPLF is more powerful than they have ever been since 2001. I don’t have a single hesitation that PMAA will learn the hard way. The last two years he has tried every possible way to knee TPLF, every time he tries it is becoming harder and harder. Expect interesting developments in the coming days.

            Thanks,

          • Abi

            Hello Samuel
            For the first time I agree with you that tplf should focus only on Tigray. Focusing on Ethiopia at large is beyond their narrow ethnic mentality.
            Now it is time they should push the struggle forward and declare independence!!

          • Samuel

            Selam Abi,
            Glad you agreed, its good progress.

            “declare independence!!”… Why settle for less when we can have the whole enchilada. Don’t worry about it.

            Thanks,

          • Teodros Alem

            selam samuel
            R u saying in this age and time, tigrai will colonize ethiopia or what.
            there a saying ” ye basebase zenab ayeferam” which means, one wet u don’t afraid rain.

          • Abi

            Hello Samuel
            Nah! Not worried at all.
            Thanks for the concern.

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Here is an interesting analogy to what you just said.

            I am sure you know that Singapore was part and parcel of the Malay Federation which came to existence after the British left its colony or its claim to it. And later on the Malay Federation was known as Malaysia including Singapore part of it. But in the mid 60s there was clear differences with the the religious mixture of Singapore and the rest of Malaysia where the former is predominantly Muslim. Later on the Malaysian parliament decided to let go of Singapore of the Federation for the rationale was that “Singapore was poor with no natural resources what so ever which became only a burden to the Federation.” And poor Sigapore was kicked out without its desire for it.

            Little did they know that, with in the next two decades Singapore through smart economic road map, it became the power house of the entire region including in finance, technology, energy and other sectors where the unemployment rate is practically nil.

            Now, Abination, are you really sure that you really want to kick out or get rid of Tigrai on account that it is, “…poor with no natural resources what so ever including being a burden to the rest of Ethiopia”?

          • Teodros Alem

            selam paulos
            The difference is Singapore kicked out maybe because she was poor and religion factors. But if tigrai kicked out, am sure it will not be because she is poor and religion but because the none stop problems comes out of tigrai and it is not sustainable to continue like this. And if tigrai become Singapore, am sure everybody will be happy.

          • Abi

            Paul the Greatista
            A very wrong analogy from a person who is 50% right at most.
            I don’t remember when Singapore fought for independence for 20+ years.
            As Teg Vet Mahmud precisely put it Tigray is Ethiopian only when they rule and loot Ethiopia. Now that the looting has stopped they are focusing more on Tigray.

            I like to see a Tigray that is first in everything and independent at the same time. It is shame if Ethiopia drag them behind.

          • Paulos

            Sure thing ma bro sure thing.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            You opened from the pages of history, where a section of a society are pitied, neglected, abused by the rest of the sisterly communities, and finally kicked out from the Federal umbrella, but miraculously excel them economically and technologically in three decades. A true history of a poor hard working people, who regained their respect by their achievements in the world communities. The Tigray people have all the elements of Singaporean character to repeat the history of Singapore, if they are kicked from the Ethiopian Federal umbrella. I have no doubt about that. Look their commitment to education, their collective culture of productivity, their effort on industrialization, above the fabric of their unity – all are the signs of confronting “poverty” in all its facets, akin to the Singaporean people. Doctore, thank you for that exemplary you brought to remind us.

            The are no contemptible people in nature, it is only in the mind of uncultured people who use despicable epithets to undermine their fellow human being.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat ,

            Well said! It gives me a comfort the fact that you and I share the same stand with respect to TPLF in particular and the Tigrean people in general where more often than not most seem to miss the forest for the trees so to speak. I sure don’t mean to speak ill about those who disagree with us but I say it out of respect for all.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam paulos
            Do u honestly believe tigrai people have been insulated on thier poverty by other ethiopians??
            Forget the poltics for once and answer if the tigray people treated differently from the people of shawa or gojam or wello or gonder?
            I can talk about addis where i born and grow up and it is a big lie and people don’t even care about which ever ethnicity or what ever regions u came from, in addis people see individual personality.
            i sometimes think some people r born to do devilish things for no reason.

          • Paulos

            Selam Tedros,

            I really don’t know.

          • Solomon

            Selam Teodros,

            Forget what ordinary people say, do you deny what Mengistu said about Tigray? He said Tigray does not have income even to buy a Chalk. In another speech he said we don’t even buy one ቁና of grain from Tigray.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam solomon
            u r more of stupid than weird.
            the problem with u tribalist, all tribalist is u(tribalist) see everything through the eyes of WE and THEM, that is why u make everything complicated.
            2, who say mengistu is ethiopia, do u know mengistu made a family pay a bullet price after he killed a member of a family in addis, do u know how many houses and property he confiscated in addis, i for sure can tell u this, mengistu was way way bad for me than he was bad to u. but u don’t see me hating the whole country or a segment of a country because of his stupid poltical actions.
            3, what mengistu has said was just like what meles has said to eritrean, like we can deport u if we don’t like the colors of ur eyes, it is stupid war time rhetoric, i don’t take it he deliberately want to insult the whole population of tigrai, he said a lot of stupid things and that is one of them.
            4, do u know mengistu on his first days as a leader was the one who stop collecting taxes in the whole of tigrai farmers and part of wallo farmers because they weren’t produce enough .

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Professors:
            Well,it is possible that Tigrai could be another Singapore.
            I envy their UNITY!.
            But can we FOCUS on Eritrea as well?Thought Eritrea could have been the FIRST Singapore of Africa if it had progreessed with the speed it had achieved until 1997.
            Why have we failed?Am sure you will curse higdef.
            But let us be honest and avoid the risk of being perceived as Political Acrobats and Intellectualy bankrupt people by shying away from the historical hardcore facts that the Hiwehat and its supporters have been the major obstacle to realize Eritrea’s Vision..

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sultan,

            The “lack of unity” and the “spirit of individualism” is always the barrier to our collective dreams. If we overcome to these two problematic issue, there is no limits to our success. While the former is correctable the latter is our character and might be hard to overcome. Does PFDJ contribute to our failure? Absolutely yes. Because they exploited to our disunity to sustain its power. Should we focus on our Issue? Yes we should,

          • Paulos

            Selam Sultan,

            If the diagnosis is Hiwahat, don’t you think it is logical for us that we should make the effort to get rid of Hiwahat in a bid to turn Eritrea into Singapore. I think that is a brilliant idea!

      • Teodros Alem

        selam paulos
        i think u have to know, this constitution was not implemented accordingly and if it is changed, it will for sure implemented accordingly.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Paulo,

        I think Eritrean people and Eritrean opposition, should stay out of anyone business. Isayas Afeworki doesn’t represent Eritrean people and the Eritrean people will not die for him so he can destroy TPLF.

        If he is going to use Badime as an excuse to start a war with TPLF, I think the TPLF should never give him the excuse to do so.

        In fact, TPLF should fight IA using propaganda as a first means. They should call his bluff that:
        a) They are not building settlements in Badime as he stated.
        b) unlike what he said, they do not have any precondition to implement the Algiers agreement as is.

        I know you said in the past, they are giving Eritrean people refugees, giving access to university etc..but still the rule of law is none negotiable, at least from the most majority of Eritrean people that I spoke with and including I.

        IA was suffocated when Abiy signed a deal with him and the Eritrean people stood together demand, justice, boarder demarcation etc… In the past he was using the boarder as an excuse and now the TPLF are giving him that excuse.

        I don’t think getting ዑርቡን, as in getting support with TPLF to fight IA is really a good long term strategy. We have no need to get help with TPLF and we should fight IA in our own and by our means so when he is gone, we get our own independence to lead our country in our own.

        What happens then, when IA is going and TPLF supported opposition groups comes to power in Eritrea. Do you think they will leave us alone.

        Berhe

        • Paulos

          Selam Berhino,

          In my comment, I didn’t say strategic alliance, I said, tactical alliance instead. As you can see, Isaias is more detrimental to them than to us Eritreans, as such there is no such a thing as in investing in the Eritrean Opposition now and a political dividend later on when he is gone. It is a modus vivendi for them as opposed to a modus operandi when they had a strategy rooted with respect to the Eritrean Opposition before they got kicked out of power.

          More over, these people, let alone to interfere in Eritrea’s affairs in post-Isaias Eritrea, they are done interfering in the rest of Ethiopia where their focus is only and solely on Tigrai. They are determined to defeat Abiy’s vision by making Tigrai the best in everything for they can not afford to veer off onto something of a secondary importance. For Eritreans, first thing first and that is the reason it is called tactical!

          • Abi

            Paul
            The other day you said that independent Tigray has no chance of survival. Today you are saying that they are determined to make Tigray the best in everything.
            I’m expecting something else tomorrow.
            Whose resources are they expecting to utilize to become the first in everything.
            Are you talking about the Greater Tigray thingy?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            TPLF have been interfering in Eritrea from the day they setup the shop. There isn’t anything that went wrong in Eritrea they are not part off or the source.

            Sure they fought with us fighting and weaning the Derg but when they interfered supporting IA and against ELF us the start of all our problems.

            And this interference has never stopped and it’s still continuing today.

            We can say the same thing about IA and interfering in Ethiopia.

            We can call it all the name we want, but we should never allow them or anyone else to get rid of our problems. They should take care of their business and we take care of our own. Fighting Isayas Afeworki with the support of TPLF is civil war, anyway you look it. And we should not fight our own people and each other yes natter what, because in the long term we will be their own pray and they will just swallow us when it’s suitable for them.

            There is no army that’s called IA that we need to fight, it’s our own army and our own people.

            What we need to do and focus on is to do what the Sudanese people did to Al Bashir.

            I don’t know about you, but all these division that’s coming and propagating against Eritrean people is coming from them (agazian, Tigray-tigrigni, Abay Tigray) and I think it’s endorsed by them.

            I ask yuh a couple of points, what they should do to smooth the rough relationship we have with them. Can you comment on that? Why is it hard fir them to honour it?

            Berhe

    • Haile S.

      Selam Horizon,

      Just on No 3 & 4 of your comment. PIA’s visit to Saudi is just a diplomatic snub. When you have a regional ambition, you don’t sit around and watch TV when big brother is around and not visiting you.

      • sara

        Dear sir Haile
        i like your quick wit, and i believe it is true.
        btw, the dinner hosted by the king was very lavish , he asked for to Go boxes.

        • Teodros Alem

          selam sara
          “he asked for to go boxes” to take it to the hotel or eri? , i knew it u will come up like this.

          • sara

            selam ato tedros,
            i read similar comment when trump visited saudi arabia in i guess it was in 2017…. you know they have this special delicacy called
            ManDy, and those who visit the king tend to ask for To Go Box. after dinner. i also heard the daughter of trump even went to the palace kitchen to see how it made.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam sara
            Yea, did the daughter of trump take it to thr US or she just ate it in the hotel?

          • sara

            ato tedros
            i was trying to express how lavish and delicious food they provide to
            their guests… most of all to tell you how Arab cultures hospitality and generosity.

          • Teodros Alem

            salem sara
            yea, i know but any info if they took it home or to the hotle?

          • sara

            ato tedros,
            i could only guess…. PIA has no plane that could carry that stuff
            but PDT has,.therefore one goes to the hotel the other takes it all the way home. i hope this answers your curiosity.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam sara
            Thanm u for the info, “pia has no plane that could carry the ManDy” u kind of make sennse, i like that.
            do u know ethiopia ManDy is the best ManDy in the world?

          • sara

            ato tedros… thanks for the conversation… going home…
            my kitchen is waiting for dinner cooking….. i will not do
            MaNdy… but Molokhya////

          • Teodros Alem

            selam sara
            MeAselamA, ManDy is the best specially at launch before “kate or Chat”.

    • sara

      Dear Horizon, it is baffling when you hear REGIME CHANGE policy is different to bid to change the constitution of of your neighboring country.

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    ን ተጎተትቲ ‘ንዳበሎም-ንዳበለን
    ስለምንታይ ‘ዩ ምርዳእ ዝጽግሞም-ዝጽግመን?

    ዶ ዋላስ ብፍላጥ
    ኣይመረጹን ክኣምኑ?
    ብውሽጦም ኩምትር ኢሎም ‘ንዳሓዘኑ
    ብደጊኦም ሕጉሳት ክመስሉ
    ይፈልጡ ‘ኳ ‘ለው ከምዝፈሸሉ

    ዶብ ኣይሕንጽጽን ‘የ ንዳበለ መራሒኦም
    ወያነ ‘ባ በየነ ክብሉ ዝዓርቦም

    ወያነ ኣይኮነን ቀዳማይ ጸላኢ
    ዓቢ-ዓርገን ከሎ ጨካን ገዛኢ
    ብረኽሲ ይመውት ድዮም ዝበሉ ቁስሉ ሓባኢ?
    ጣቋ ተርኺቡለይ ተባሂሉ ያኢ
    ዋይ! ዓይኒ ክንደይ ዘይትር ኢ

    ሸታሕታሕ ክትብሉ ክትነብሩ
    ኣብ ክንዲ ሰላም ህውከት ክትጽሕትሩ
    ዓቢ-ዓርገን ሃገር ንዳጽደፋስ
    መዋእልኩም ወያነ ክትብሉ?
    በጃኻትኩም ሕፈሩ
    ስረኹም ከይሞልቕ ኣስጢምኩም እሰሩ
    ዶ ዋላስ ‘ቲ ጂፒኤስኩም drift ጌሩ?
    ምርዳእ ‘ኳ ኣቢና ‘ንታይ ‘ዩ ነገሩ

  • Paulos

    Selam Moderators,

    Please make an exception to this and let it stay for an hour or two for it is imperative that every Awatista with a functioning and thinking brain should listen to with all the seriousness it deserves. Thank you.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-fG1qX2BJs

    • Nitricc

      Hey P; face the truth. the TPLF thugs couldn’t tough PIA and Eritrea when they have the Amara, Oromo, Gurage, the south and 100 million people and resources. And you think now they are going to make a dent on anything pertains to Eritrea. They corrupted, outdated, backward thieves. my advice is think your size or else, you will liquidated to the end. Take it easy thugs. talk talk bla bla bla.

      • Paulos

        Nitrikay,

        It is just tiring you keep saying the same thing over and over again with no substance in it. If you can, try to learn from history and when you do, you will see how serious these people are. When I say serious, dead serious! Don’t be stupid!

        • Nitricc

          Hey P your TPLF the stupid one to tell you the truth. How stupid they are to say the same thing over and over. They are done. the right thing to do apologize for the hence crime they have committed, ask for forgiveness, get out the Eritrean land and let’s live in peace. that is very easy solution buy your TPLF won’t allow to process it. You have the right to stand with thugs and I have the right to stand with my people and country. why are you getting angrier? Don’t worry the likes Aman-H and the rest of agzains will love your clip but don’t expect to go unchallenged. That is all. The absolute truth is they can not defet Eritrea when they the tanks, the banks, the 4-kilo, the huge army and Ethiopian people resources, it is absolutely crazy to make such statement while the thugs are in Mekelle hotel drinking their whiskey. So don’t go crazy is an open forum and I have the right to fight the cancer of the horn Africa, the thugs!!!!

          • Paulos

            Oh man, sure whatever. Have fun!

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Nitric
            “To stand for my people “ really
            Then why don’t go and show us ወዲመን፡ክመተልካ፡ሕጂኼ
            Don’t be screen tiger ሰብአይ፡እንተኾንካ፡እነሆ፡ፈረስ፡እነሆ፡ሜዳ
            I think your problem is attention seeking I am sorry ,no more unnecessary sacrifice
            አብዝይ፡ኮፍ ፡ኢልካ፡ፍከራ
            Taking twice shower,eating three time a day or more playing x box day and night and my people
            Be real man

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Nitrickay,

            Can you ask the same apology to our despot for the crimes he committed against his colleagues in particular and to our young generation who are perished everywhere in general? I am sure you don’t have the gut to utter that.

        • Teodros Alem

          selam paulos
          As u can see, as usual these people is counting on ethiopian people and defence force for thier protection .
          but i say the best protection is establishing justice and the rest is like fool me once shame on u .

          • Paulos

            Tedros,

            That is your opinion and I respect that. Thank you.

      • Hashela

        Hi Nitricc

        It is interesting that the speaker refers several times to international laws that prohibit and condemn any interference of one state into the internal affairs of other states. But he conveniently ignores the fact that in violation of international laws his organization (TPLF) is occupying Eritrea’s sovereign territories. In doing so, TPLF is the main obstacle to the Eritrean-Ethiopian peace process.

        Speeches like this one reveal TPLF’s Orwellian doublespeak and mechanization of deception to well-meaning Eritreans and Tigraians.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Hashela; I wouldn’t mind if the TPLF thugs played the game they know best but I don’t get is the like Aman-H, P and the rest of the sell outs supporting every move of the TPLF. The TPLF agenda is clear; they must steal and rob everything Eritrean. All pictures of the mighty EPLF is stolen and converted in to TPLF. Eritrean declared there were 60K martyrs after independence; they copy that as is even though they never recorded a single dead fighter. When EPLF was giving death certificate, TPLF thugs said “if your son or daughter didn’t come home then it means they are dead. Their plan is to muddy everything Eritrea till there is no difference between Tigray and Eritrea. I mean this people have no dignity. Why can just be they and be proud of it?

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            What is needed in this forum is the return of civility and respect despite our disagreement. I believe that the lack of civility and omnipresence of name calling during our discourse drove away several highly insightful and wise commenters. If we continue do so, this place will dominated by people with extreme views. The trend is visibly manifest.

            Did you notice that only 2 females are participating in this forum. In environmental science, people pay close attention to certain ‘species’ (bio-indicators). The lack or under-representation of that ‘species’ is indicative for a toxic environmental conditions.

          • Nitricc

            including those who have not the best interest of Eritrea in mind.

            Hey Hashela; I agree with and it is possible and perfectly fine if a digital weyane to come to this forum and inflict the division, mistrust and cause havoc but what I can’t stand the so called Eritrea to come here and degrading the people and trashing Eritrea to the dumpster. It is very hard to take in and not to show emotions.

    • mokie berhe

      Salam Paulos. We know who is paying the utility bills around here. It is of no surprise that some can repeatedly abuse posting guidelines without consequence.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; sometimes I wonder? I was watching a clip about Deretsion talking making Mekele like Paris and NY; I can’t help it but laugh. There are people on this forum believe that Melles Zenawi was a visionary leader. I really believe those people are genetically dishonest; if not, look where Ethiopia is? look where Tigray is? the country is about to explode with Ethnic and religious tensions. Is this a work of a visionary leader? If you have a shred of integrity; this the thing going on in Ethiopia and Tigray is the result of your Visionary leader, Melles Zenawi. TPLF thugs will go down sooner than latter but the question is, will they take down the people of Tigray and Tigray with them. that is the question.

    • Abi

      Hello General
      Meles and visionary in one sentence? I could not find it in the same book.
      Nightmare is a more appropriate term. That is exactly what we are finding ourselves in.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Ras Abiy; If the TPLF thugs should they elect article 39 and run with it, then that will be the luckiest day for Ethiopians. half of your problem shall be solved.

    • Paulos

      Nitrikay,

      Heard of የኢትዮጵያ ኣምላክ? The country will never explode or the people will never pull Rwanda on themselves. There is a mystical thing about the nation where you, the Khedives, Mahadists, Italians wanted to see it happen and it never did and will never. You need to tell that reality to Isaias the sore loser who is salivating for it. The country is a mystery!

      • Nitricc

        Hey P: yes I have heard it and I believed in the saying after India left Ethiopia; I said to my self? wait a meant; Indians never leave once they set their foot in anywhere in the world. They multiply, use countries resources dominate and become the first class of citizens in some once native country. You go to Kenya, Kenyans are a second class citizens, go to South Africa the same and the list goes on. So, yes, at the time I believed it but now the problem is within. To save Ethiopia all Killil’s special forces must be disperses or unite with the national army. if not, having those Killil’s special forces in place and to try conduct a national election is simply stupid. You need a national army in place to conduct national election, in case the national election goes south and the national military will save the country. But as of now, if the national election goes wrong, there is nothing but civil war among the Killil’s because they all are armed. if there Ethiopian god, then the Ethiopians and Ethiopia needs it now.
        so, my friend P; if I were I will worry more about your Deprestion than the lion of Nakfa. He is just fine, he enjoying your TPLF desperation. have seen the Nascar in mekelle; hahahahaha oh my god. how about feeding the people or give them clean water?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hi Nitrickay,

          The lions of Nakfa are those who strategize the battle and those who lead the actual battle. Issayas was neither a strategist nor did he lead any battle. Don’t take away the credits of the heroes who lead to the fights.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Aman-H; again when I read the history of Eritrea, I read with open and with neutrality. I think your guys problem is Hey Aman-H; again when I read the history of Eritrea, I read with open and with neutrality. I think your guys problem is

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Nitric
          Do you want to know who the lion of Nakfa is it is በርሄ፡ጻዕዳ፡and you know what is from the area who use the word እዙይ
          Your Demi god the enemy of Eritrea he destroy the fabric of the society
          He destroy the country,he destroy 2-3 generation
          Eritrea is a country with young generation
          He destroy the Leaders of the country starting from መንካዕ፡የሚን፡ElLF ,G-15 up to Sebhat Efrem
          any how you are talking about virtual Eritrea that you know on you tube or TV

  • mokie berhe

    Salam All. Viva the Republic of Tigray! Tigray’s right to article 39 should be supported and they should be availed the opportunity for a referendum process even before the Ethiopian general elections.

    • Abi

      Hello mokie .
      Tigray Kingdom should exercise the right to independence.

  • Selam All,

    It is the same old story. They will never have enough of it; always thirsty to abuse the Ethiopian PMAA.
    It is mind boggling to see that Tplf apologists will hate to such extent PMAA. The point is that it is not the person that is their problem, but whoever may have come and who every may have deposed tplf, they will have hated him to the sake extent. Their dream, whatever it may have been, was cut short, because they expected a free ride in Ethiopia forever. That is how visionary they were; expecting the rest of Ethiopians will allow colonization of Ethiopia by tplf, a thing Italy had failed to achieve.
    What i fail to understand is how other Eritreans see this group, who try to serve two masters, whose interests are more or less in direct conflict, tplf and Eritrea, unless they see the two as the two sides of the same coin. Making Eritrea the sacrificial lamb, however they may say that they have fought for Eritrea to make it independent, will be too expensive a price to pay, for the service that was supposed to have been rendered once upon a time. Sacrificing Eritrea to save tplf will not be accepted whatsoever by most Eritreans.
    Politics is indeed a dirty business carried out on the back of the people as if it is for the people, but surely against the interest of the people, and for the sake of few individuals in power or thirsty for power.
    PMAA is their nemesis, their headache and the cause of their sleepless nights. Other Ethiopians outside tplf would have caused them the same mental suffering, and whoever may come in the future for that matter, the result will be the same, for 4 killo is a no reaching area for tplf as long as it exists. They may ride on jawar’s, bekele g, other oromo extremists and ultranationalists’, etc, backs, still 4 killo will remain a faraway dream.
    Instead of saving tigray and Eritrea from tplf, eritrean tplf supporters have chosen to save tplf, the poisonous group that is a danger, not only for Ethiopia and eritrea, but for the whole region. Despite the thousand epithets they heap on PMAA to demean and demonize him, tplf will remain in the cold, and however tplf rehabilitate its oldies with gin, black label and young women, with millions of birr, at hotels turned into a sanatorium in places like mekele, axum, etc., again it will be the same story.
    Finally, Tplf and oromo extremists are vociferously shouting, elections or death, because they think that it will be a good chance to get even with PMAA. It is not because they will gain power through elections, but they look forward for certain things. Ethiopia may be destabilized and become chaotic, and they will be happy to see that, maybe some of their wishes maybe fulfilled. They will turn around and say, we told you, only tplf could rule Ethiopia and the whole region, and bring peace and stability. The second possibility could be the unfortunate birth of a dictatorship for no one could control the country if chaotic, unless by killing and bloodshed. The third, the wish of most peace-loving Ethiopians, who are accused by tplf and its supporters as Ethiopianists, which shows how much they hate Ethiopia, is a peaceful election, which will not be an easy job.
    Kenya could carry out elections at the cost of about 1.5K people dead. With tplf, jawar and other oromo extremists and ultranationalists around, we will see what ethiopians have to sacrifice to continue to exist. Nevertheless, Ethiopia had never been short of enemies throughout her history, internal and external. She existed and she will continue to exist. Whoever digs a grave for Ethiopia, usually they enter themselves first. It has been so throughout history.

    • Abi

      Hello Horizon
      Those Eritreans sacrificing Eritrea and Ethiopia for the sake of the dying tplf are agazians.

      • Paulos

        Abination,

        Thank you for coming to my defence. You’re a true friend. Horizon had me in mind when he stole Muhamuday’s long ሓተታ.

        • Abi

          Paul
          ወዳጅ ለመቼ ነው?
          አይዞህ ወዳጄ ኮራ ደፈር በል!!
          ደረትህን ንፋ ፎክር ተንጎማለል
          አግአዚ ብትባል አገር ብትከዳ
          ባንተ አልተጀመረም የለብህም ዕዳ
          ከዘር የመጣ ነው ሲወርስ ሲወራረስ
          የወያኔ አግአዚ የጣልያን አስካሪስ

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Later on, God willing that is, will tell you the story of two Tigrean lords. One you admire, the other you abhor.

          • Abi

            Paul
            Thanks Paul.
            Eagerly waiting for the one I adore
            Hopefully avoiding the one I abhor
            Kind of indifferent for the one you ignore.
            እንዲህ አይደለም ወይ ተመሳስሎ መኖር?

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Paulos
            ጳውሎስ፡ይጸርፋፈካ፡ኮዩ፡ዘሎ፡ዚወዲ
            አሰካሪሰ፡ኮ፡አባሕጎታትና፡ምበር፡ተጋሩ፡አሰካሪሰ፡አይነበሩን
            ይበል፡ስምና፡ቅኔ

          • Paulos

            Selam Gerie,

            Abination and I are bros, yea sure from the same father. ሰምና ወርቅ is his signature when Abiy Ahmed sanctified the Oromos when he said, እኛ ኣሽሙር ኣናውቅም፣ በኣሽሙር ኣንናገርም when he gave a confessional speech in Bale.

            Abiy Ahmed should be forgiven for his lack of sense of history when the Oromos during the “Great Oromo Migration” when Gonderine Monarchy was weakened due to the 15 years protracted war against Ahmed Gragn—16th Century. The Oromos pushed to the north and divided the Gonderine Monarchy through their cunning maneuvers to the extent of turning the otherwise Amharic or Geeze lingua franca of the Imperial Court into Oromifa.

          • Abi

            Paul
            Thing is you inherited the better gene and left me with the useless ሰም:: You inherited the gold.

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Paul
            Ok
            You have a good grasp on the history.
            The Bale speech if it were any Tigrean you could have seen so Much voice all over the internet and YouTube
            Every bod would say racist and racist and ….
            Any how thy called him መሽረፈት what a an appropriate name

      • Teodros Alem

        abi
        “Tela bet” can u tell us one good reason how and why ethiopia will be sacrificed or affected by the creation of agazian nation?? Specially if the agazian and ethiopia border demarcated peacefully by 3rd parties involvement, like UN or AU.
        do not tell us the map will be sacrificed or history crap talk but ONE good reason that makes sense? ONE good poltical or social or economical reason?

        • Paulos

          Tedros,

          You said, “…The separation of Tigrai from Ethiopia is…..like healing from cancer for Ethiopia.” I hope the Moderators are taking notice.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam paulos
            as far as i know agazian means the aspiration to create tigrai tigragn country? Means the separation of tigrai from ethiopia, it means a blessing for ethiopia that the very most of her problems will be separated along the separation of tigrai.
            I used the word cancer to show how big the problem is.

          • Nitricc

            You said, “…The separation of Tigrai from Ethiopia is…..like healing from cancer for Ethiopia.” I hope the Moderators are taking notice.

            Hey P; I am just wondering what the Moda want him to do? The guy expressed his feeling and opinion and you have so much beef with it, you wanted the Moda to take a notice? Well, it is true, TPLF led Tigray is nothing but absolute cancer to Ethiopia and to the region. My point what Teddy said is true! You are to blinded by your loyalty to the TPLF thugs to see the truth.

        • Abi

          Hello TA

          የትግራይ ጠላ ቀምሰህ ታውቃለህ? ጉደኛ ጠላ ይጠምቃሉ::
          ወደፊት እድሜ ከሰጠህ ትቀምሰዋለህ:: ካላስቻለህ ግን በጡጦም ቢሆን ሞክረው::

          • Teodros Alem

            abi
            r u telling me ur mother ” tela” is not liked by her ” costumers”?

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam TA
            Man I am not fun of Abi but on this one you cross the line ,engage with Abi why do you go to his Mam this indecent and vulgar
            How did the moderator allow you
            ባሌጌ፡ነህ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Horizon & Ras Abiy,

      Please join the following discussion on the “divisive speech” of the Prime minister, with some highly concerned Ethiopians, that includes the prof who translated the speech. The translation of the speech is validated as a correct translation by three intellectuals who knew the language. Enjoy the discussions on the Merej tv.

      https://youtu.be/hqMuT1RvI6I

      • Selam Amanuel H.,
        I listened mainly to the amharic translation, for lack of time. The political stand of the gentlemen, in my opinion, doesn’t matter at all.
        O.K., let’s say that the translation is right. What did tplf say about it? This is an unexpected political gift for Dr. Debretsion to criticize PMAA, especially during this pre-election period. Did he say anything on this?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Horizon,

          Abiy is the leader of Ethiopia. Debretsion isn’t. A big difference. If a leader of a country made a divisive remark to funnel the contradiction of your society, it is the role of the Ethiopian elites and intellectuals to abhor him and look an alternative leader that unite your the country. The man has no value whatsoever. You are at the brink of ethnic cleansing. You should act before he leads you in to a bloodshed of epic proportion. He is a fraudulent deceptive and fictitious dummy leader Ethiopia has never seen. He is not good for the diversity of Ethiopia nor does to the relationship of Ethiopian and Eritrean people. One who admired and listens to criminal despot is not worth for Ethiopia and its neighbor. Just think about.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Abi,

          I think if what he says is true (I don’t doubt that’s is the case) but what’s the reason for it and what he wants to achieve.

          1) I don’t think TPLF/ Tigray people are the target. I think he is just stating the fact. If this comes from someone who was involved in the qerro movement, it would be just stating the truth.

          I am not saying he is correct in saying what he said, or TPLF or Tigray people to see the other way and say nothing. I am just focusing why would he say that and what’s that he is looking for to gain.

          2) I think his main target is the other Oromo centric political organization such as OLF or Jawar party (I don’t know it’s name) who may be gaining ground in their campaign to contend against his party PP. I think in order to gain the support of the Oromo people, he is trying to own the struggle of Qerro as he was part and parcel of it and he wants to continue the support of the Oromo people.

          If we see what typical politicians do to gain support is by picking on someone they find the people to sympathize with. For example, Trump said, Mexicans, Muslims, Immigrants as a target to gain his “support base” which he still has them.

          I think that’s his reason. Otherwise, there is nothing he will gain politically if he pucks a fight with TPLF specially they way he has delivered the speech. What’s the down side for him, he will not have the support of the Tigray people, but that’s given anyway and he has nothing to lose.

          Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,
            You are right. I see no political gain coming out of such rhetoric. Today, jawar and his group are much more dangerous than tplf. Jawar is a deceitful politician. He could make falls allegations as he used to do in the past, and cause disturbances, killings and destructions. Unfortunately, there are many ears ready to listen to his calls, and follow him even to hell.
            What the Ethiopian PM is supposed to have said is an interesting news, because it came from his mouth and not for any other reason. After all, it is a known fact. Many sites would have taken it and made it the news of the day. I haven’t read or heard mentioned on some (can’t say all) other sites that are followed by most Ethiopians. That is what looks odd about the whole story, despite the fact that some people have come forward to say that it is a correct translation. Especially, sites that hate his guts will be happy to carry the news on their front page. Even then, one could say, so what, when they say worse things about him, starting from day one.
            Anyways, Ethiopian elections are expected to become toxic. Such things are going to be easily said in the future during the campaign, and most probably the new law is meant to control worse things from happening as the elections come nearer. In my opinion, it is too early, especially if it has come from the PM, although jawar has already started character assassination of the PM in public.
            After all, you can’t isolate somebody who has already isolated himself, which is a fact as much as tplf is concerned, and moreover, none of his audience is going to vote for tplf any way.
            Thanks to jawar the querro has succeeded to show its ugly face through killings and destructions, and i think that it has lost its merits. Nevertheless, it doesn’t mean that it is not going to create troubles before and after the elections.
            I want to reiterate that Ethiopian elections are going to be polarized, because Ethiopian politics is toxic and ethno-sectarian.
            I see continuation of the democratic process only if PMAA wins the elections, because, despite what is being said by those who hate him, he is broadly accepted within and outside the country. Otherwise, power may come out of the hands of the oromo ethnic group, going i don’t know where. In addition, I don’t know how they will react to it. New coalitions may or may not work, because they may not agree on the portion of the power pie each party is ready to accept.
            If PMAA loses power in the elections, it will be history repeated in a way. In 1945 when Winston Churchill was voted out of office after doing so much for Britain during wwii, he had said, “Democracy is the worst type of government if there were not fascism and Nazism”. PMAA could be the other causality of democracy. Nevertheless, it is worth it, if meant to uphold democracy in Ethiopia. Returning to dictatorship is not a choice, and chaos should be avoided by the will of the people. Ethiopians should not give their support to extremist elements by all means.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam horizon
            i just read the first 2 line of ur comment and as far as i know jawar never wanted to hurm anyone but to protect oromo’s right based on ur beloved constitution .is that a crime?

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Horizon
      Good thing since when did you acknowledge the freedom of Eritrea or this is dived and rule
      Weren’t you the cheerleader with Weyane in the 2000’s “whoever digs a grave for Ethiopia usually digs for Ethiopia thy enter themselves “ really now Tigreans are enema of Ethiopia ,my friends at this web site did not understand you but you are killing two birds with one bullet according to you the enemies of Ethiopia are …
      I wish I can pull you previous comments
      Boy I have never been fan of Hayet but she was a poison for you
      You accuse others for racism but you are super racist
      When weyane did it was a haram but when This chief plagiarizer ,pseudo intellectual
      Did it it Is halal
      You know what you called this guy
      ከሀዲ፡የበላበትን፡ወጪት፡ሰባሪ

      • Selam G.Y.,
        Is this how fake news works? I am asking you, because i have no idea. My disqus account is accessible to everybody. Don’t talk of what i haven’t said. Be serious.

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Horizon
          Fake News really ? Why should I
          I wish I can access your past comments

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Horizon
          This is one of your post like 5 years back
          you believe that 100m Ethiopians will accept to be landlocked forever by 4m people and by the two cousins? You can call upon history, geography, colonial borders, whatever…. If you can convince Ethiopians and make them accept a noose around their neck, and sacrifice their economy and their security for eternity, good for you, but you will never be able to do so. I will disappoint you, Assab is going to remain a contested issue. You know it and I know it. It is the main point of discord, a stumbling block for future peace, cooperation and “

          • Abi

            Hello GY
            My hope is Ethiopia never use Eritrean ports.
            Meles the Lion, Meles the visionary was absolutely right when he decided to convert Assab from a busy port to stinky የግመል መፀዳጃ::

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Abi
            SURPRISE
            what do I expect from a bitter person
            As thy say “grapes are sour” it is ok just cool down .
            You did not use them for the last 28-29 years but the country is surviving in spite of the cruel man destroying every thing.
            But Abi Let Me ask you there are 5 stage of grief :denial,anger,bargaining,depression and acceptance but you are stuck on the on the 2 nd stage ,you remain bitter and angry not good for your health move on dear .
            You know the Europeans have two bad wars but thy move on working together for their good
            Americans have bad civil war but it is behind them now look where thy are
            The Nordics the same
            So there is hope dear whe Eritreans people get a chance to decide for themselves things will be ok
            BTW I don’t know why thy try to appease you calling you ራስ on this web in spite of insulting the Eritrean people calling them Parasit when ever you get a chance ,calling for a wall and tec ,any how you are one bitter person
            የግመል፡መፈንጫ? ለምን፡የጅብ፡መፈንጫ፡አይሆንም don’t worry about that
            Wait let this cruel man disappear. You will see what will happen
            My advice to You sir don’t insult people in general ,engage with individuals

          • Abi

            Hello GY
            I’m still waiting for the surprise.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            If Ethiopia want to use Eritrean ports or not, should be for Ethiopia to decide, but Eritrea will remain always open for business. A couple of news that I find worthy this week.

            1) DP World to Upgrade, Maintain Eritrean Ports, reports bloomberg.
            2) Through Eritrea, China Quietly Makes Inroads Near the Red Sea, reports the diplomat.

            Nonetheless, officials in Beijing intend to turn what some analysts still label “Africa’s North Korea” into a centerpiece of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), China’s costly economic megaproject inspired by the Silk Road.

            This is all good news, in the long term, because these countries like China will have significant interest in helping secure their investment, from any noise (like fly buzzing) that comes south of the border. The visionary leader and people who support the visioinary leader making Eritrean ports to “drinking water for the comel” can go ahead and “መንደቕ እንዳ አባ ሓበሽ ይግሃጹ”, Haile S. please translate.

            Berhe

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            As you correctly put it it is solely Ethiopian choice to use Eritrean ports. My hope is Ethiopia avoids a costly mistake using Eritrean ports. I also hope you never hear a fly buzzing from the south.
            አሰብም ግመሎቹም ዝንባቸውን እሽ ይበሉ::
            Build the Wall!!!

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ras Abiy when you said

            My hope is Ethiopia never use Eritrean ports.

            what is your reason? I mean are you just saying to piss of people or you a legitimate reason. What is it?

          • Selam G.Y.,
            I still believe it. Landlocking ethiopia was a grave mistake and it was the work of eplf and traitor mz (tplf), and the reason it cannot be accepted by ethiopians as a fait accompli. Nevertheless, i have never entertained war or forceful occupation to get assab.
            The new rapprochement is meant in a way to ameliorate this, and find a formula so that ethiopia can use the port. It should as well be known that Assab is under the radar of independent tigray.

          • Abi

            Hello Horizon
            I like the idea of independent Tigray. However, I don’t see any relationship between Assab and independent Tigray Kingdom.

          • Selam Abi,
            Sorry; I had in mind ‘greater tigray’. Any people who speak the language are tigrayans, and lands that are already occupied plus afar lands including assab, are going to be incorporated into greater tigray, if you have seen the map. In my opinion, tplf will not go for Independent tigray as it is today, because it will not be viable. That is why debretsion is wooing eritrea lately.

          • Abi

            Hello Horizon
            ዓፄ ደብረሰይጣን ለሚወዱትና ለሚወዳቸው የአሥመራ ወረዳ ህዝብ የዘውዳቸው መቀመጫ ከሆነችው ታላቂቷ መቀሌ ባስተላለፉት መልዕክት ከዘውዳቸው ሥር ተንበርክኮ ጠንክሮ እንዲሰግድ አሳስበዋል::
            Long live Greater Tigray!!!

    • Samuel

      Selam Horizon,
      You said … “The point is that it is not the person that is their problem, but whoever may have come and who every may have deposed tplf, they will have hated him to the sake extent.”
      Do you remember when PMAA visited Tigray (April 13, 2018) and how much he was accepted in Tigray? Let me tell you short story, I was in Tigray sitting with my mom, we met after long years, we were watching PMAA speaking, she said “ከምኡ ሓቂ ዝዛረብ ንጉስ ካብ ማእኸል ዓዲ ኣይርኣኹን” loosely it means “I haven’t seen a king from center who speaks truth like him”, she was hopeful like any other Tigraway at that time, I was one of his supporter, I supported him until he made two blatant lies. TPLF was in shock how much PMAA got accepted in Tigray. For years I have been arguing that TPLF was building an empire in Addis and forgot Tigray. The fact that they are concentrating in Tigray I am happy for that, I will provide every support as long they keep what they are doing today.

      Honestly, you are just one dishonest individual, I thought you are serious person. PMAA screwed up himself, he had to appease individuals like you who don’t appreciate EPRDF achievements, thus he had to say “27 years were years of darkness, Derg didn’t lose, etc”. If I was him I would have appreciated the good things the old guards did and then criticize the human right abuses, the political space, and freedom of speech, and then move on with my own plan. You don’t need to lie the achievements that people and outsiders has witnessed. More than 40 universities were built, thousands kilometers of roads were built, GDP has increased incredibly, Dams has been built, thus, what is the point to deny all those and say “27 years of darkness”. World Bank and IMF has witnessed those developments, what is the need to deny.

      How could I deny EPRDF’s human right abuses, killings, arrests, confiscating freedom of speech, etc. The reason I supported Abiy at the beginning was because of those things, I expected him to do better. I expected him to build from what has been built, I expected him to end human abuses, displacements, killings, but he is doing the opposite. I am rational individual, I don’t lie, I have political views, I stand firm with those views but I don’t have a single reason to lie or deny crimes committed.

      Since then (April 13, 2018), PMAA was making statements that contradicts to his own statement, when he was in Tigray he appreciated Tigray people struggle during HS and Derg, however few weeks later he said the opposite. If you are going to tell me that HS and Derg were better than EPRDF for Tigray people then you are sick man, fundamentally you have a problem.

      If I am going to trust your judgment, if I have to compromise and work with you, do you really think your judgment is honestly analyzed? Do your really believe PMAA isn’t divisive leader?
      There are many fair minded individuals in this site, I am sure they have been following what the PM has been saying and also what he said in Jima, how could you say he isn’t divisive leader? Think if MZ had said similar statements, do you take it?

      You can support PMAA all day long, I have no problem with that, but there should be a certain level of honesty, we don’t have to share the same value or political views, but we should agree on the wrongdoings.
      When you have a leader (Ethiopian leader) who purposefully advocate hateful messages publicly and in private, how could I trust your judgment? You could have said … “what the PM said is wrong and unethical but he is a better person to lead the country at this moment”. You can acknowledge the wrongdoing and then you can show your support, I have no problem with that.
      Right now you are just denying every lie and divisive message of the PM as if they are originating from TPLF. TPLF media may have using it to play politics (its fair game) but those messages were originated from PMAA in the first place, so who are you going to blame? Isn’t the PM has responsibility to be measured and be a leader for all Ethiopians? Try to be honest.

      Another thing, let me educate you one crucial thing about Tigrians, if you are going to keep admiring Menelik, HS and Derg, if you are going to keep saying they were better than TPLF for Tigray people or most Ethiopians, then you will never win a single Tigrian vote. Tigray has experienced the most atrocities during Menelik, HS and Derg, that was by design.
      During the last 27 years I have witnessed many good things in Tigray, my disappointment is it could have been done way better than that, otherwise to compare TPLF with Menelik, HS and Derg is ridiculous. Look, if you admire Menelik, HS and Derg and hate TPLF, then which means you don’t appreciate what TPLF has done for Tigray people. You can’t have both ways. They say, “if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck”.

      In science when you do research you look for pattern, today I can see a pattern, those who support PMAA has fondness to Menelik, HS and Derg, at the same time they hate MZ, how does it work? Are you really impartial?

      Go to Oromia and ask if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)
      Go to Amhara region and ask if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)
      Go to Afar and ask about if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)
      Go to Gambela and ask if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)
      Go to Gumuz and ask if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)
      Go to South and ask if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)
      Go to Somalia and ask if they choose MZ or (Menelik/HS/Derg)

      However, if you ask in Addis Ababa they will tell how great Menelik/HS/Derg were. Even that is probably 50% of the population. The media has played a role.

      Thanks,

      • Abi

        Hello Samuel
        Tplf is converting the whole Tigray into a concentration camp. Keep going…

      • Selam Samuel,

        What made you change your mind? Is it what PMAA did to the people of tigray or what tplf thinks that the ethiopian PM did by not serving the interests of tplf as HMD? Not only the ethiopian PM, ethiopians in general have no problem with the people of tigray, whatsoever. If the complaint of tplf becomes the complaint of the people of tigray, nobody can help that.
        Dishonesty belongs to those like you who are blind to the 27 yrs of looting, killings, incarcerations and torture by tplf, and want to whitewash its crimes with roads, high rising building and other constructions that are still to be paid by the ethiopian tax payer. Your tplf replaced the derg, in all its inhuman actions, and that is the reason it was kicked out and dumped in mekelle, and continues the same dictatorship on the people of tigray. All the constructions you mentioned did not happen with money tplf brought from the bushes, but with aid money from the west, borrowed money from china and even from within the country, which you wouldn’t mention. No ethiopian government got as much money as tplf, and no government embezzled the money as much as tplf did, and left behind ethiopia with the burden of $50bn dollars in debt. [Please, read sara’s comment. It tells a lot about abused people, how they really feel]. You can’t cure the horrendous trauma suffered by the people of ethiopia under tplf with buildings and roads.
        I don’t think that PMAA is destroying what is already constructed with ethiopian taxpayer’s money, but building on it. If ethiopians kill each other, it is due to the poisonous ethno-sectarianism they were fed by tplf. It wanted to divide, weaken and rule. It came with hatred for ethiopia and the amhara ethnic group, and left behind it open the pandora’s box of hate and division, and you say it is the ethiopian PM’s fault. It will take decades for ethiopians to cure themselves from this ailment.
        Nobody can cure your polarized and biased mindset. Don’t bet on your tplf, you will lose. It is no good to no one, in the long term, not even to the people of tigray, It stands between the people of tigray and other ethiopians. It is a confused group of people who think that they are superior human beings, chosen by god, to rule over ethiopia, otherwise, ethiopia is not meant to be, as their guru said when he came to arat killo. That is arrogance and ignorance. Instead of salivating to take eritrea with it, it is better if tplf tries to mend fences with the federal government and the people of ethiopia.
        Except mz, all the leaders you mentioned above were patriots. They were dictators, nevertheless, they were ready to die for their country. If you go anywhere in ethiopia, you will not hear the name of mz or see his picture.

        • Samuel

          Selam Horizon,
          Keep misleading yourself, do you remember Einstein’s law of insanity, just because you repeat misleading messages over and over it doesn’t make you right. The first thing that you need to do is, you should have uncompromising values and principles. You should have “red lines” that shouldn’t be crossed by any admin. You should hold true to your own core values.

          • If you are against human right abuses (look 2019 HRW report). Then you should criticize PMAA.
          • If you are against killings (PMAA admin has admitted thousands has been killed, more than the previous admin). Then you should criticize PMAA.
          • If you are against air bombardment (PMAA’s Wollega, air bombardment in Wollega). The PM himself has said he can’t go to Wollega because of security problems.
          • If you are against arrest without notice (thousands of OLF supporters and NaMa (National Movement of Amhara) supporters) has been arrested and being arrested. Then you should criticize PMAA.
          • If you are against division and hate (PMAA speeches are worse than any leader EPRDF had). Then you should criticize PMAA.

          Thus, tell me PMAA’s record on those values? Hailemariam Desalegn former PM, he was a guest on DW’s Conflict Zone (in October 2019), he said more people has been killed in last two years than his own administration. Thus, Abiy’s record is worst than HD record. This is a fact. The two things that have improved from last admin are political space and media. Other than that there is nothing you can proud about the self-obsessed PM. The country is on the brink of disintegration.

          My argument with you is about your core values, what are you core values? TPLF hate can’t be a core value, well, let say it is a value for you, what is your second core value? I am sure you are better than that.

          Menelik, HS and Derg were patriots, really? All the killings, air bombardments, red terror, burning houses, HS’s 5 year exile (patriot?), hanging execution by HS, Menelik’s cut off breasts, famine, endless crimes. Do you even know what patriot mean? Just because someone says “Ethiopia, Ethiopia, Ethiopia” a thousand times a day it doesn’t make them patriots. What makes you patriot is if you work hard to let your own people for better life, better school, better health, better transportation, better communication, better energy, better future… I am speaking relative to previous regimes.

          You said TPLF built Ethiopia using borrowed money, well Derg didn’t have any money left, what Derg had was bullets, tanks, bombs, you name it… When you have a poor country like ours you borrow money and build for better tomorrow, that’s exactly what MZ did. Before 28 years Ethiopia was known for famine and war, you will never read Ethiopia and development in the same sentence during that period. That was the result of the previous patriot leaders.
          PMAA is building hate, division, conflict, famine, war and disintegration. He is doing exactly what Menelik, HS and Derg did. Some say he is Derg 2.0, others say he is Menelik 2.0, I will say he is a combination of all.

          By the way, do you know that PMAA has been granted more money than any other administration in two years? Where is that money? One thing we know is Abiy renewed the Menelik palace and he planted flowers (already stolen), which tells you who PMAA is, and what his priorities are. Where is the rest of the money? The inaugurations that PMAA has been doing are projects that were built by the previous admin. Where is the new project? I guess the new project is to sing how great Menelik, HS and Derg were. He is paying the money for singers, social media, print media, books, etc.

          ንሶም ንዕንወት እምኒ ይፍንቅሉ: ንሕና ድማ ኣልዒልና ዓዲ ንሃንፀሉ!!
          እነሱ ለጥፋት ዲንጋይ ሲፈነቅሉ እኛ ደግሞ ዲንጋዩን ኣንስተን ኣገር አንገነባለታለን!!
          ረዳኢ ሓለፎም (TPLF central committee)

          Thanks,

          • Selam Samuel,
            O.K. you can have it your way. PMAA within two years has proved to be the worst PM that ever ruled ethiopia. He has done more harm than the killing-, torturing- and looting-machine called tplf, ethiopians got rid of with a great sacrifice after 27 yrs of suffering. They are your angels. You can have them all to yourselves. As much as Ethiopians are concerned they have got rid of killers, tormentors, looters, etc, and they don’t want them back. Be sure about that. In addition, you should know that those who say that they don’t lie at all, tell most lies, and those who are proud of their core values are the most compromised.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon & Samuel,

            Pls read this article. It will support to one of you and resolve your confrontational argument, you are making. Enjoy it.

            https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ethiopias-naive-peacemaking-could-lead-to-war?fbclid=IwAR3n4nyBwiYpZ36KqsVk86XiZcQ3qWHsN3ha37ngQxWBcGMxKWrJy_skdpg

          • Samuel

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            Thank you for the link, I do share with the writer’s concern and his historical references as well. Those fears are valid fears, they are in front of us. The whole East Africa is in a state of chaos, I hope it doesn’t explode.

            From the link:-
            That Abiy would risk such action for a photo-op suggests the Ethiopian prime minister puts ego above common sense and may be descending down the same path of self-destruction that led an earlier generation of African leaders to destroy their countries while glorifying themselves. For the sake of the region, let us hope that regional leaders, European officials, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will try to talk sense into Ethiopia’s egotistical leader before he makes a move, which can undo decades of progress and cost tens of thousands of lives.”

            Thanks,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Samuel,

            I was to quote it the one you quoted it, but I let it for you guys to come with it. And you did. That is the core message of the article,

          • Selam Amanuel H.,
            “He (Abiy) has reportedly let Somaliland authorities know he plans to bring Farmajo to Hargeisa whether Somaliland wants it or not.” It is more like a fairytale than a political opinion. How is it possible to fly on his plane Somalia’s president to Hargeisa, just liked that, without the wish and permission of the host country. This is a weird story.
            On the contrary, if he can help to resolve the problem between the two countries, which can occur only if both countries wish it, i see no problem with that, whether he won the NPP or not. Can we accuse peace makers?
            In this age of fake news, i think that anybody could right any bs for different reasons and call an opinion.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            Do you know that Secretary of State Pompeo is heading to your country to help you on the crises you are facing? The problem with you, you could not even admit the crises in your country. The more we engage you the more you became a denier. I think we are not helping you.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            U can say ethiopia is in crisis as much as u want but secretary pompeo is visiting three african countries, not just ethiopia, he is visiting Senegal, Angola and ethiopia , which u aman h , the known ethiopia’s enemy and hater said ” his visit is to help on the crisis ethiopia is facing” but US and international political analysts viewing it as a bid to counter Chinese influence in africa and the nile dam.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,
            Is it because it fits your narrative or is it because it conveys the truth that you liked this writer’s opinion? Do you believe that Abiy has the power to land Formajo in Hargeisa whether Somaliland likes it or not? Don’t you think that such things can’t happen short of invading the country and deposing the incumbent government? Don’t you think that what the writer is saying is weird and purposeful?
            The American secretary of state is visiting many countries, and Ethiopia is one of them. He will speak at the AU. What is unusual about it?
            As much as you are concerned the crisis Ethiopia is facing is the work of PMAA. Tplf that is parading its military force and tries to intimidate civilians had nothing to do with it, nor the Renegade groups who misuse the rights given to them and chose to be used by sinister forces to destabilise the country. You can accuse the man as much as you like, simply choose the right reasons, and don’t use anything that comes your way.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            No one has the monopoly of the truth, what I am saying is “if you oppose the previous admin for xyz reasons” then you should apply the same reason to criticize the current admin as well, that’s it. It has nothing to do with being an angel or perfection. If you have a valid reason and fact then to try to show me that, otherwise don’t try be like the Pharisees. ፈሪሳዊ ለመሆን ኣትጣር።

            Thanks,

    • sara

      Dear horizon..
      south Africa has 40+ universities and at that world class–
      has best hospitals in Africa….
      has best rail roads…. motorways…
      has a nuclear energy,,,, and vast industry , the biggest economy in Africa.
      who made all this? — the apartheid regime….
      tell the real south africans— the gone for good apartheid regime wants to make a come back…. they will tell you — over our dead body……. because
      apartheid was cruel–ugly–in human all bad things in the world.

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    ብሩኽ ኣጋግዘ ሰብ ዓዋተ

    ኣነ መን ‘የ?

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    ንብረት ስድራኦም ኣሳቢቦም ክሰርቁ
    ሰባት ሃላኽ ከውድቑ
    ስራሕና ሎም ዝዓጠቑ
    መንእሰያትን ዓበይትን ከሕቅቑ
    ክርእን ክሰምዕን ከሎኹ ባህ ይብለኒ
    ስለምንታይ ‘ሲ ናባይ ስለ ዘይመጸኒ
    መን ምዃነይ ዶ ትፈልጡኒ?

  • Paulos

    ሰላም ብሩኻት ህዝበይ,

    ኢሳያስ ንሰብ ሳምሶናይት የናሹን ይድህልን፣ ባጽዕ የላን፣ ዓሰብ የላን ይብል።

    ደብረጽየን ሓደሽቲ ጽርግያታት፣ ሓሙሽተ-ኮኾብ ሆቴል ይምርቕ፣ መሊሱ’ኻኣ መቐለ ናይ ኢትዮጵያ ብልጽቲ ከተማ ጥራሕ ዘይኮነት ብዓለም ደረጃ ከማን ፍልጥቲ ከተማ ክንገብራ ኢና ይብል። እቲ ባዓል ሳምሶናይት መንእሰይ ዋና ናይቲ ሓሙሽተ-ኮኾብ ሆቴል ብልዕሊ 275 ሚልየን ብር እዩ ኣብ ኣኽሱም ከተማ ኣስሪሕዎ፣ እቲ ቀንዲ ዕላማ ድማ ንቱሪስት መስሓብን ነታ ከተማ ሞደርናይዝ ንምግባር ከምኡኻኣ ስራሕ ንምፍጣር እዩ ይብል።

    እወ ንምድጋም ዝኣክል ኢሳያስ ባጽዕ የላን ዓሰብ የላን ይብል!

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; despite your hate and unfairness to the man; here is a wealthy Tigryan telling you and TPLF as is.
    ” ንሕና ቅዋምና ንጹር’ዩ፡ ንጽቡቑና ዝደለየ፡ ብሃገራዊ ሓድነትናን ልኡላዊ መሬትናን ዝኣመነ፡ ክብርታትናን ባህልናን ዘየዕበረ ሰብ፡ ኣብ ሓድ ሕድ ጽቡቕ ድሌት ዝተሞርከሰ ጉርብትና ዝኣምን፡ ዓሌቱን መንነቱን ብዘየገድስ፡ መርሓባ ኢና ንብሎ። እቲ ኣብ ኤርትራ ተዓዚበዮ ዝበሎ ከኣ፡ ከተኽፍኦ ስለዝደለኻ ወይ ካልእ ላቔባ ክትደሌሉ ስለዝወዓልካ፡ ዝኸፍእ፡ ዉን ዝቕየር ፈጺሙ ኣይኮነን። እታ ዝበላ፡ ሓቂ ስለዝኾነት፡ ከምኣ ኢላ ብሓቃ ኣላ።
    “ንተዋስኦ እዩ መንግስቲ ንሚኒስተራት/ሰበስልጣናት ማኪና ካብ ሰዓታት ስራሕ ወጻኢ ዝኸልእ!” “ክዋሳእ ኢሉ’ዩ ፕረዚደንት ብሓንቲ ቅያር ክዳን ስራሕ ዝወፍር!” “እዘን ጫማ ኣይቅይረን’ዩ!” ወዘተ ወዘተ ዝበሃል ቢሂላት’ስ፡ እንድሕር 20ዓመታት ክትዋሳእ ኢልካ ትገብሮ ኬንካ፡ ትዋሳእ ዘይኮንካ፡ ትነብሮ ኢካ ዘለኻ። ካብ ብግብሪ ንኣከባቢኻን ቤትካን መሲልካ ምንባር ከኣ ካልእ ጸጋ የለን። ምስሉይነት’ስ ንኻልእ ደኣ ሃብዋ፡ ብቀረባ ትፈልጥዎም ኣለዉኹም።
    ” ብዝግባእ ዕዮ ገዝኡ ዝሰርሕ ሰብ፡ ጸጥታ፡ ሰላም ህዝቡን ሃገሩን ከዉሕስ ንቡር’ዩ። እንታይ ኬና ኢልና ኣብ ሆቴላት ይኹን ኣቢያተ ቤ/ጽሕፈት ዝተፈተሽና? ብዓቢኡ ስራሕና ስለዘይንርስዕ ጥራዩ እንበር፡ ምስ ዝተሓሰበልና ክፍኣት ክትሓስቦ ከለኻ፡ ሚሽ ሶማል፡ ሶሪያ ዉን ምኾና። ግን ኣይኮናን፡ ንሳ’ያ እታ ሓቂ።
    ንኣቶ ዳዊት፡ ንቅድሚ ሕጂ ምስ ሰብካ ዝተጋገኻዮ፡ ጌጋ ርድኢት ብዝነበረካ መሰረት፡ ኣብ ክንዲ ከምዛ ገሊኣ ሰብ ንሪኣ ዘለና ብዝኸድካዮ መንገዲ ንድሕሪት ሸታሕታሕ ክትብል፡ ብፕሮፖጋንዳ ፈሺሽቲ ካድረታት ከይተዳህለልካን፡ ከይሰንበድካን፡ ተኣሪምካ ደጊምካ ሓቂ ምዝራብካ፡ ምስጋና እንበር ካልእ ኣይግባኣካን’ዩ።
    ኣብ መወዳእታ፡ እቶም ኣቶ ዳዊት፡ ንሄለን መለስ ኣጋጊዋ፡ ኣካል ፕሮጀክት ዓባይ ትግራይ’ዩ ትብሉና፡ ንሓሳብኩምን ሙጉትኩምን የኽብሮ እየ፡ ተኾነ ዝተወደአ መጽናዕትን፡ ጽፉፍ ሓበሬታን ጌርኩም ኣረድኡኒ። ኣቶ ዳዊት ይብል ኣብ መግለጺኡ፡ ኣዲስ ኣበባ ሓዊስካ፡ ኩሉ ዓደይ!
    ባዕልና ጸላእቲ ምብዛሕ ምስ ስልቲ ኣይኮነ፡ ዋላ ስትራተጂ። ከምቲ ሰብ-እከይ ሓሳባት ንሰብ ንእሽተይ ክፋእ ርኤምሉ፡ ከም ቡኮ ሓሲቦም ብኣ ኣቲዮም ከዕንዉዎ ዝሓስቡ፡ ንሕና ግን በንጻሩ ንሰብ ንኢሽተይ ጽቡቕቲ ነገር እንተሪኢናሉ፡ ብኣ ኣቲና መሊስና ናብ ጽቡቕ ክንደፍኦ ደኣ እንበር ከምዘይምለስ ከነሰይጥኖ ግቡእ ኣይኮነን። ምኽኒያቱ፡ ንሓዋሩ ዉን ማ ኩሎም ኣህዛብ ሰላም ስለዘድሌና።”

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat Awate

    በዓል ካሮሳ
    ዓይኒ ‘ለዎ ‘ዶ ፈረስካ?
    ኣሎዎ ‘ወ ተዘይስኢኑ ፍሩስካ

    ዋእ! ‘ንታይ ትብል ወደይ
    ሕጂ ‘ባ ሓቖንካያ ከብደይ

    ፍሩስካ ‘ተዘየሎ ‘ንታይ ምዃኑ
    ምነገርኩኻ ግን
    ዓቐበት ከይኮነካ ምእማኑ

    ኣታ ሰብ ደሓን ዶይ ኮንካን ኢኻ ሎሚ?
    ኣነስ ደሓን ‘የ ብዛዕባ ፈረሰይ ትሓተኒ
    ዘሎኻ መሲሉኒ
    ይቕሬታ

    በል ፈረሰይ ን መንደፈራ ገጹ
    ኣይከይድን ‘የ ኢሉ ካብ ዝዓጹ
    ኣበደን ኢሉ ኣቕቢጹ
    ተተኺሉ ኣብ መርገጹ
    ኢሂ ተበልኩዎ እዚ መስመር ዓዲ ሃሎ
    ኣይሰግሮን ክብል በእጋሩ ሓንጺጹ

    ካብ መንጉዳ ናብ ድባርዋ
    ፍሉይ መንቀሳቐሲ ስለ ዘይረኸብኩዋ
    ‘ዛ ኽሳደይ ከየንቀጽዋ
    ዕደ ሓለፍኩዋ
    በለኒ

    ፈረስ ስለ ምንታይ ትፈርሕ?
    ምስ በልኩዎስ
    ብሰሓቕ ፍሕስ
    ስጋዕ ዝስእን ከተንፍስ
    ዝገርም ‘ዩ ተጠራጢረ ቊሒሙ ከይከውን
    ናይ ፍሸይ-ምራራ ዕጸ-ፋርስ
    በልኩ
    ኣየውርድ

  • mokie berhe

    Salam all. U.S. Assistant Secretary for African Affairs Tibor Nagy’s visit to Mekelle a couple weeks ago was not only to commemorate the MAC Mekelle American Corner, for this is something that would have normally been attended by the U.S. Ambassador (or the DCM) to Ethiopia. Nagy was in fact in Mekelle to deliver a strong message to the TPLF leadership regarding Badme and the need to withdraw. Interesting to now see Debretsion yesterday coming out to say that his administration is now ready to resolve the border dispute based on international laws and relevant provisions. Incredibly, he still maintains (deja vu MZ) that the TPLF wishes to negotiate the border and unsettled issues. Look for PMAA in coming weeks to further cut the cash flow and fuel supplies to Tigray.

    • Nitricc

      Debretsion yesterday coming out to say that his administration is now ready to resolve the border dispute based on international laws and relevant provisions. Incredibly, he still maintains (deja vu MZ) that the TPLF wishes to negotiate the border and unsettled issues.

      Hey Mokie; Interesting! I was watching the clip when Deprestion saying what I have quoted you and I was thinking some was up. I think all three are ganging up on TPLF thugs, PIA, PMAA and the US. I feel sorry for TPLF thugs and their stupid supporters. TPLF is back where it started 40 years ago due to its stupidity. This time only created more enemy and hatred toward the people of Tigray by other Ethiopians. I think everyone is fed-up by TPLF stupidity and childish games. What the stupid thugs don’t know is they are sandwiched between Eritrea and the rest of Ethiopia. But What I have observed from Derestion’s talk yesterday, I think they are waving the white flag if not PIA and PMAA are determined to destroy TPLF thugs.

      • Abi

        Hello General
        How do you expect farsighted people come out of dedebit boot camp?

        • Nitricc

          Hey Ras Abiy; They can’t leave the Dedebit mentality and they froze in there. In the history of the world; TPLF is the only government to
          get diched while owning the banks and the tanks. They really are stupid. This collection of thugs should not be allowed to ruin east Africa. They got be stopped. The fun part their toothless, I mean toothless military show. That was a joke.

          • Abi

            General
            The military show was to intimidate their own people.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ras Abiy; good point. I never thought of it. very confused people.
            the their degree of confusion look at this…

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c325fa9b5767ecb73ac0cf83df11939d0af7c6b9ff3ae8a4c5f257af98938f1.png?w=800&h

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ras Abiy & Horizon

            Please watch the interview of an Ethiopian lawyer and how he characterize the speech of the conflicting bogus Prime minister, in Bale. In the interview they have highlighted the speech of Abiy at different time, to show how unprincipled leader he is. The interviewee scores point on him by citing the contradiction of his speech and the so called “medemer.”

            https://youtu.be/-NPP4iGiK_o

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            Let me veer off a tangent and hope you will see the analogy but a stark contrast as well.

            The last King was the last of ten siblings where nine of them died before reaching adulthood. But he turned out not only the last but the most shrewd and calculating the nation had ever seen. His grandfather [Welde-Mikael] that is, the father of Ras Mokenen was from Eastern-Tigrai. His mother Yeshimebet was the daughter of Ras Ali, a Muslim from Oromo Wello-Oromo extract. His grandmother was from Amhara. As you can see, the King claimed to represent and a product of the diverse Ethiopia in its true sense.

            When he was barely a teen, his father taught him on how to survive in the nasty world of power politics and internalized what his father told him when he hid his true intentions including to his friends. And the man remained an elusive figure to the end when he left his enemies speculate about his plans and intentions.

            And here we have a fool who claims to be a product of a diverse Ethiopia and pretending to emulate the last King but you see him opening his big mouth vilifying people left and right to the delight of his enemies when he hands them an ammo to make a political capital on his sheer stupidity. And the TPLF leaders knew all along that he didn’t have it in him when they made their case during the debate on who should replace Hailemariam Desalegne. They were right! The guy is the worst leader the nation has ever seen!

          • Abi

            Paul
            Can’t wait to see a Tigray republic.

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            There is not going to be a Tigrean Republic. I promise you that for the Tegaru are too smart and with a sense of history to elect that venue. It will be the end of Tigrai if they do. For your own good, Abiy is bad news. He is neither Mengistu the nationalist nor Meles the visionary. He is an accident and an aberration. He needs to step aside.

          • Abi

            Paul
            Definitely You are kidding.
            Meles has never been visionary. Look what is happening to Tigray people? 8 years after his death, the people of Tigray are considered አር የነካው እንጨት ::
            Meles the “ visionary” exposed his people to uncertainties that could practically send all of them back to dedebit.

          • Teodros Alem

            abi
            “Tela bet”, stop twisting thing, and as far as i know tiplf was and still is the most hated people(group) in Ethiopian people history and tplf is a political party. and as far as i know ordinary Ethiopians don’t hate people, they hate poltical party.

          • Abi

            Hello TA
            ጠላዬን እንዳላጣጥምበት ትንኞቹ አስቸገሩኝ:: Buzz off !!

          • Teodros Alem

            abi
            What is that mean? ” ye tela bet ashmur”? ghetto son of “tela bet” cheap who’re.

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Allow me to pull Abination on you as in ሰምና-ወርቅ.

            The saying has it that, “Men are more often the sons of their times than the sons of their fathers.” Meles went Procrustean in Tigrai when he went largess in the rest of Ethiopia.

          • Abi

            Paul
            በሜዳዬማ ነጥብ አታስጥለኝም ወንድሜ
            ያገሬ ሰዎች ምን ይላሉ መሰለህ?

            በሬ ሆይ , በሬ ሆይ
            ሳሩን አየህና ገደሉን ሳታይ!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ras Abiy,

            There is no Ethiopia without Tigray. They are proud Ethiopians and they will not fall in to your trap “tigray republic.” When the current clueless PM is removed, Ethiopia will survive from the chaotic political atmosphere. The good thing now is the Ethiopian “nations and nationalities” understood him that he is unprincipled person. The guy is not good for the domestic politics of the nation as well to the relationship with your neighbors.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam.aman h
            U can talk ur crap all u want but tigria liberation front(tplf) can’t talk even one word on behalf of other none tigrai-Ethiopians. according to the law and constituency tplf is tigrai party.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Of course there is going to be ኢዮዽያ without ት ( ትግራይ).
            What the rest of peace loving Ethiopians should do is expedite the removal of the the Tigray republic.

          • Samuel

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            Those who back PMAA they know that Abiy is a deceiver, they are aware that he lies like a rug, but they don’t care as long as he stays in power. The reason why they deny his fraud nature is because they themselves are like him. Those who support him they have been lying thru out their history. The only power they have left is to lie and keep lying. They don’t even admit that PMAA lies, they just deny it blatantly.
            By the way they have similar behavior as Trump supporters. Have you ever heard or seen any Trump supporter (individuals, Senators, Fox News, etc) admit Trump lies? No, they don’t do that, they just twist it to something else.
            As you know, after they lost the hard power in 1991 they continued their soft power thru (media, music, books and art), they have been deceiving the majority of Ethiopians by inventing or exaggerating, thus they just doing what they do best which is deny and lie. But now most Ethiopians are opening their eyes, they can see who PMAA is, they can see PMAA advisers and supporters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fr9ki1vtSQ).
            I call them “ፈሪሳዊያን” or “የ ፈንድሻ ጠሮኞች”, Ethiopians call them “ትምክህተኛ”. Its easy to tell those individuals, they admire HS, Menelik and Derg.

            Thanks,

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Dr. Aman,

            But this is sure..None among us is convinced by nonsense… he is telling in the meeting.. “We are Elephants” …You see this is not peace lover.
            “There is no Ethiopia without Tigray.” How the hell is possible..How?

            KS,,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kokhbay,

            From the get go, the man hasn’t any principle. He has no any base, and it is a matter of time to lose his power.

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Glad to see you my friend.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            You aren’t following me in Jebena,,I have came just to let you know about 5G danger and crime those Telecom companies are doing..

            Start to open Jebena page this the kind request from me to all..

            Best Regards,,

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            ቡና ተፈልቶ
            ጎረቤት ተጠርቶ
            ቡና ቁርስ ቀርቦ
            አብሽር ነው አቦ!!
            የቡና ወግ አምሮኝ የደራ ጨዋታ
            እኔም ተሰልፌ ከኮኮቤ ተርታ
            ቡናዬን ላንቃርር ቆሎ ልቆረጥም
            አቦል ከበረካ ትኩሱን ላጣጥም
            አቦ ጨዋታ አምጣ ቀልድህን ደርድረው
            ካንሰር ምናምንቴ ማስፈራራቱን ተው
            እኔ እንደሁ አልፈራም ቀብራራው ጎንደሬ
            መድሃኒቱ ፌጦ ኮስታራ በርበሬ
            ወንድ ልጅ ታሞ እንጂ ፈርቶ እንደማይሞት
            አበው ነግረውኛል ከጥንት ከጠዋት
            አቦ እንዳይቀዘቅዝ አቦሉ ይቀዳ
            የምን አምስት G ያበጠዉ ይፈንዳ!
            እጣኑም ይጫጫስ ጨዋታውም ይድራ
            ቴድሮስንም ላከው ጎረቤቱን ይጥራ
            እንደው የልጅ ነገር እችን እንኳን ይስራ
            እደጅ ይቀመጥ ኮኮቤ አደራ

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            Wow, So you aren’t ..worried..Like Selemon

            TechTalk With Solomon S16 Ep10: 5G vs 4G, World Fastest Driverless Train, Mega Solar Park in Dubai..

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8nxBxyNrus

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I’m not worried at all.
            Don’t worry be happy…

          • Teodros Alem

            selam kokhob s
            nobody want u to be convinced, who cares if u guys r convinced or not. U guys r irrelevant.

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Abi
            Really ???
            How About the 3000 year history? How about የአድዋ፡ድል፡ የማይጨው፡ጦርት you really want to sacrifice that .then which Ethiopia are you going to talk
            What a bitter arrogant person.
            I have so many Ethiopian best friends from every ethnic group how decent thy are ,oh boy

          • Abi

            Hello GY
            Tplf is a Tigray liberation front. I’m just supporting and helping them achieve their goals. In this case independence. Where do see the arrogance? If you call me arrogant, I can’t wait to hear what you are going to call the front and all the people supporting it?
            You see, I was so arrogant to oppose the Eritrean liberation movement. Now I am a different person. I support Tigray liberation struggle.
            I hope to see a Tigray kingdom before 2021.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam paulos
            Stop lying, weld mikeal don’t have any blood connection with tigrai, weld mikeal father was guddisa(an oromo) and his mother was an amhara.
            weld mikeal wife, which is ras mekonen mother is from timbian, a close family of yohannes.
            u need to know timbian history, they r more closer to agaw and amara, they r tigraiagn speaking agaw.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Thanks for bringing Tigray online to Awatenation.
            All leaders make controversial remarks. All leaders make controversial decisions.
            Some leaders hate people because of their eye colors and still worshipped by the desperately confused.

      • Samuel

        Selam Nitricc,
        እንታይ ዳኣ ፀርፊ ኣብዚሕኻ፥ ዓቕሊ ጽበት ድዩ::

        Thanks,

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  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ቤት-ሻሂ ሂወት ምስ ኣተኹ
    ብጽምኢ ማይ ኮካ ጠለብኩ
    ደሓር ‘ሲ
    ባሊቃ ዘይብላ ጠርሙዝ ‘ንካ ረ አኹ

    ‘ንታይ ደኣዩ’ዚ ምስ በልኩዎ
    ዋና ናይቲ ካፈ ገሪምዎ
    ክፉት ጠርሙዝ ከምጸኣለይ
    መን ሓሲብዎ
    ‘ንታ ‘ዩ ትምስጢር ክብል ሓተትኩዎ

    በለኒ
    ስማዕስከ ዝሓወይ ኣብ ኤረትራ ዲኻ ትነብር?
    ‘ምበር በለኒ ዘይሓፍር

    ደሓር ግን
    ከመይ ዝብል ሕቶ ኣቕረብኩሉ
    ከናፊሩ ረማጢጡ ሓሰበሉ
    ውሑዳት ደቓይቕ ኣጥፈኣሉ

    በል ዝሓወይ
    ናጽነት ረኺብካ ግን ስኢንካ ሓርነት
    ባሊቃ ዘይረኸብኩ ‘ልካ ግን ክንድዚ ወጠጥ
    ‘ቲ ክወሃቦ ዝግብኦ ቀዳምነት
    ከበር ዘይገበርካስ ንድሕሪት ትጉተት

    በለኒ ከይ ሓፈረ
    ሽዑኡ ደመይ ክፍልሕ ጀመረ

    ደሓር ግን ሓቁ ምዃኑ ዘኪረ
    ካብ ነዊሕ ሕልሚ-ቀትሪ ተበራቢረ
    ኣነየ ;ለካ ብስብሒ ዘይኮነስ ብሕጽረት-ሓሳባት ዓቢረ
    ዝነብር ዘለኹ ሓሲረ
    እዋይ ክሓስም ክገዝአካ ከሎ ዘይተማህረ
    እንቋዕ ኣይረኣይዎ ዝናብራና
    ብዓል ኣቦና ከቢረ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mehandsay,

      I like it and keep it up. The heroes are those who “speak and resist” to power. And you are contributing to that effect. The “realest people” don’t have many friends, because most of the people goes with the power of the day. At the end of the day, when you focus on the good, it will multiply your optimism towards our collective success. That is the motto of a fighter.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Thank you, Prof. Emma!

  • Hashela

    እዙይ

    Before my parent sent me to rural Eritrea to spend the rest of my life as a shepherd (I wasn’t doing well in the school), we moved for a brief period to a small place close to Sal Ambesa. Being from Anseba and fully of aware the prejudices, my mother strongly advised us to behave well and make no troubles. Few days after our arrival, I and my sister went out to explore the surrounding areas and were amazed to discover a vast field full of dense and very fine grasses that oscillated like the surface of a lake when the wind gently blew over it. We had a lot of fun crawling, rolling and ‘swimming’ over fine grasses and managed to flatten a significant part of the grass field. Happy but hungry and thirsty, we went back to our new home. It didn’t take long until a gentle man showed up to our house. He asked my mother not to harm us and told her what we did. It happened the fine grass was ጣፍ! As soon the gentle man left our house, I and sister were summoned up to inner part of the house and received our punishment without the usual procedures involving running around the house, getting caught, and crying theatrically. The gentle man spoke Tigrinya with a distinct ‘dialect’ I wasn’t aware of. I still associate that ‘dialect’ with kindness.

    • Paulos

      Selam Hashela,

      Glad you didn’t call ቆማል ዓጋመ the man with a distinct “dialect” as you put it where your testimony is an exception to the accepted norm.

      • Hashela

        Hi Paulos

        you seem to miss the core message of my post. Your Pavlovian reaction seems to overpower your otherwise analytical mind.

      • Haile S.

        Paul,

        ኣንታ ጳውሎስ፡ ኣይትለኻኽመና እባ። ኣነ ነዛ ነብሰይ፡ ካብ ኣከለ ጉዛይ ስለዝኾንኩ፡ ኣብ ዓዲ (ኣስመራ) ከለኹ፡ ዓጋመ በላዕቲ ኩዕንቲ እንተዘይተባሂል፡ ቆማል-ዓ ኢለ ኣይፈልጥን። ንስኻ ኣብዚሕካ ትጻረፍ እንተኔርካ፡ ከምታ ባህልና፡ እምኒ ኣብ ርእስኻ ተሰኪምካ ወይ ደብረቢዘን ወይ ደብረዳሞ፡ ምስወጻኻየን በደልካ ክፈኹሰካ እዩ። ንህዝቢ ኣልግብ ኣቢልካ ምብካል ግና ጌጋ ይመስለኒ።

        • Hashela

          ሃይለ
          ደብረ-ሲና ኣይትረስዐያ። ዑዉር ዘመደን ኣብ ኣሎ። ጳውሎስ ሓጥያቱ ክወርደሉ እንተደልዩ ነቲ ዕዉር ዘመድይ ክሕውዮ ኣለዎ።

        • Paulos

          ሃይላት,

          ኣንታ ሃይላት ንዓኻ ኸማን እየ ዝጣበቐልካ ዘለኹ ማለት’ዩ’ኮ፣ ስለዚ ክረድት ክትህበኒ ኣለካ’ምበር።

        • Paulos

          Hailat,

          Speaking of ደብረ-ቢዘን, I read in one of the history books that, it was founded by Ewostatewos and his followers who observed the Sabbath instead. Do you know, if they still adhere to that as in monks in there? Thanks.

          • Haile S.

            Good morning Paul,

            I think Debre Bizen was found by Abune Philipos. Ewostatewos revolting against the central church came from Tigray and settled in Serae and probably settled or found a Monastery there. This is from memory, I can check later whatever written material I have at home.
            Talking of Debre Bizen, there was a yearly piligrimage organized by Asmara youth. It was almost a must for whoever claims a maturing man to climb there and place his steps on deadly precipice (ኣደይ ቅበጽኒ) as a sign of courage. I didn’t go, I was not mature enough (ኣየፍረጭኩን ነይረ ዶ ክብል:-) ) before the Ethiopian government stopped it in the early 70tish due to the rising independence movements. Debre Bizen like the Greek Mount Athos is exclusively male. It was even believed by believers that not even a female snake climbs beyond the line of exclusion. Any female going beyond that line risked to be thrown out to a certain death.

          • Paulos

            Thanks Hailat.

            I would like to know more about the historic monasteries and if you could please educate us more on them. Isn’t it ironic, an Atheist knows more about the monasteries than the rest of us believers? ውርደት ይባሃል’ዚ.

          • Haile S.

            Paul,
            It is like immunological tolerance, theological tolerance.
            ሓደ መዓልቲ ሓደ ወዲ ዓድና ቀሺ ተሰዲዱ ዝመጸ እረኽበልካ፡ ኣብ ሓደ ቤተክርስትያን ዝቕድስ። ሽዑ ጽባሕ ክትመጽእ ዲኻ ይብለኒ። ናበይ እብሎ። ናብ ቅዳሰ፡ ሰንበት እንድ’ዩ ይብለኒ። ትቕብል ኣቢለ፡ ኣነ ድኣ ኣብዚ እምነት ትብልዎ ዘየለኹ እብሎ። ዋይ ዋይ ኢሉ ርእሱ ሒዙ፡ ኣንታ እንታይ ወሪዱካ፡ ኣቦሓጎኻ፡ ኣብኡ ነባሓጎኻ ክንትኦም ዓበይቲ ኣቕሽሽቲ፡ ኣሕዋትካ ህልም ዝበሉ ክርስትያን፡ እንታይ ወሩዱካ ይብለኒ። ኣነ ኸኣ፡ ስማዕ እብሎ፡ ጻድቓን በዚሖምናስ፡ ሓደ ሰይጣን ዘይብልና ክንተርፍ፡ ኣይግድን ምስበልክዎ ስሒቑ ቀቢጹ ገዲፉኒ እብለካ። ዕላል ተወድኣኒ ኣለኻ። ዓዲ ምስ ከድና፡ እንታይ ከነዕልል ኢና?

          • Hashela

            ሓደርካ ሃይል

            ” … ጻድቓን በዚሖምናስ፡ ሓደ ሰይጣን ዘይብልና ክንተርፍ፡ ኣይግድን … ።”

            This is a fatal weapon that I will make sure to include in my arsenal as I am frequently confronted with the same question from the same “professionals” of my village.

          • Berhe Y

            ሰላም ሃይላት፡

            ሓደ ሰብአይ ነይሩ፡ ለባም ከምዚ ከማኻ፡፡ ኩሉ እቲ አምላኽ ንወዲ ሰብ ክገብሮ ዘሎዎ ገይሩ ይኸይድ ነበረ፡፡ ምስኡ ድማ፡ ክድቅስ፡ ክትስእ ይጽሊ፡ ይጸውም፡፡

            እዚ ኩሉ ገይሩ ከብቅዓ፡ እቲ ህይወቱ፡ በቲ ንሱ ዝተረድኦ፡ ምንም ለውጢ አይረኸበን፡፡ አይሃብተመ፡ አይ ሓለፈሉ፡ ከምታ ናብራ ቀደሙ፡ ሰሪሑ ይአቱ ነበረ፡፡

            ሓደ መዓልቲ፡ ክድቅስ ከሎ፡ ከምቲ ልማዱ ጸሎት ክገብረ ይጅምር እሞ፡ ይብል ነብሱ፡ እም ምስ አምላኹ ይማረር፡፡

            “ክላ ግደፈና፡ ክንደይ ግዜ ንዓኻ ክንልምን፡፡ አደቒስካ አተስአና፡ እንተዘይአተስእካና ድማ፡ ፈንጠርጠር ኢልና ንትስእ” ኢሉ ይድቕስ፡፡

            ንግሆ ትስእ ተበለካ፡ ሕቆ አብያ፡ ተገልበጥ ተበልካስ ተገልበጥ ትመስክር፡፡ ክሳድን እግርን ጥራሕ ክትስአ ይፍትና እሞ፡ አበይ ዘሎ ሕቆ እንዶ ተታሓዘት፡፡

            ከምዚ ናይዚ ሰብአይ አይኮንኩን ዝመነ ዘለኹ፡ ግን ብዙሕ አይተፈታተን:).

            በርሀ

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም በርሀ፡
            የቕንየለይ፡ ክብረት ይሃበለይ። ንባዕልኻ ለባም ስለዝኾንካ፡ ልብምና ዓዲልካኒ። ጥዕምቲ ዛንታ ነጊርካኒ። ኣጆኻ ዕቡይ ኣይኮንኩን። እንታይ’ድኣ እምነተይ ኮይናትኒ። መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ፡ እግዚኣብሔር ንሰብ ብመልክዑ ፈጠሮ ይብል። ኣነ ዝኣምኖ ኸኣ፡ ሰብ ንእግዝኣቢሔር ብመልክዑ ፈጠሮ፡ ብጠባዩ ገለጾ ኢለ ስለዝኣምን ጥራይ እየ። ውሑድ ንብዙሕ ክተናኽፎ ንቡር ስለዝኾነ እየ ዝተናኽፈኩም ዘለኹ እምበር፡ ክሰብከኩም ኢለ’ውን ኣይኮነን።
            ሓውኻ፡ ሃይለ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Prof. ሃይላት:

            እመን! ይብለካ ‘ለኹ ግደፍ
            ዳሕራይ ኣብ ሪጋ-ኣምብሬዛ ከይትስለፍ
            መስርዕ ኣምብሬዛ-ሂትለር ናብዚ ሕለፍ
            ምስተባህለ
            ዋላ ‘ተተሓባእካ ፍለጥ ከምትግፈፍ

            ስለዚ ኣብ እምነት ኣቦታትካን-ኣዴታትካን
            ደው በል ዕረፍ
            ‘ንተኾነ ትረክብ ‘ት መግደፍ
            ተዘይኮነ ኣብ ቀዋሚት ገዛ ኣምብሬዛ ኮፍ

            ዶ/ር ሓሸላ ዘድሕነካ
            ከይመስለካ
            ‘ተዘይኮይኑ ድርግም ናብ ሙሶሊኒ ሒዙካ
            የድሕን

          • Hashela

            ኣርባዕተ ምዓልቲ ኣብ ሰሙን ብዓላት
            ከይደፍረን ኣቦይ ቀሺ ኣምሒሎምኒ ቃላት

            ብጻህያይ ተዋሒጡ ግራተይ
            ኣዕዋፍ ተጻዊተናሉ ምህርተይ
            ዝባና ዓሪቁ ስቤትይ
            መዓንጣኦም ተጨልቂዑ ደቅይ

            ኣቦይ ቀሺ ሕቶ ኣለኒ
            ምስልኻ ምስሉ እዩ ኢልኩምኒ
            ንሱ ጻዕዳ ኣነ ጸሊም፥ ገሪሙኒ
            ሓያልን ራህራህን እዩ ኢልኩምኒ
            ግን፥ ምስ ቃንዛይን ድኽነተይን ንበይነይ ገዲፉኒ

            ሃብታም ክንሱ፥ ቤካ ሃባ እንካ ደይብል
            ቀናእ ንዓይ ጥራሕ ፍተወኒ ደብል

            ኣቦይ ቀሺ፡ እዛ ደርፊ ተንትኑለይ ግዳ፥
            “ኣዋልደይ’የ ኪዳ ዕበዳ
            ላዕላይ ሰማይ’ዶ ኣልኦ ሜዳ?”

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            እህምምምምምም…… በለት ሳንዳይ ክብራ
            ኣቦይ ቀሺ
            ጻህያይ የለን ምስበላ
            ‘ተን ትሰርሓለን መዓልታት ዘኪራ
            ‘ት ዝበዝሕ ግዜ ግን ቦዂራ
            ኢዳን እግራን ኣጣሚራ
            ተረኣያ ባዶ ክተርፍ እቲ ቦኽራ
            ‘ታይ ዝበለ መከራ

            ተራገመት
            መን ጀመሮ ዝኹሉ በዓላት
            በለት
            ግን ጎራሕ ስለ ዝነበረት
            ጻዕዳ ዘምጽኦ ከምዝኾነ ኣመተት
            ደኽያ ክትተርፍ ምስ ቶንኮበት
            ስለ ዝፈለጠት
            ኣበደን ክትብል ጀመረት
            ሓንገደት
            ኣንበሲት! ሳንዳይ ኣስገደት

            ተገዚትኪ ‘ለኺ ተበልዋ
            ስራሕ ምስ ኣን ዓጢጥዋ
            መተዓቢታ መሳቱኣ
            ዓይኒ ዘንቁሑ ድም ሰዓብዋ
            እወ ሳንዳይ ኮርዒዳ!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hashela,

            Actually aqshishti adina were way ahead of their time.

            Isn’t countries in Western Europe advocating 4 day work week? Do you think the farmers work less than 35 hrs a week that most labour expert advocate a healthy work and life balance?

            Isn’t common harestot adna start their day before the sun rise and work until sunset, 12 hours days at least.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            ክቡር ሓው በርሄ

            ኣነ ሕጂ ኣብዚ ነታ ሃይላ ብጦቛ ድገለጸልካ ድውስኸሉ የብለይን።
            መዕጸዊ ክብሎ ዝደሊ: ፍልልይ ምስ ክብረት ሃብቲ’ዩ።

            ሓውካ

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hashela and Haile,

            I really enjoy reading your comments and my comment is the spirit of adding the humour side you injected to the topic and adding the opposite view. I am not being too series I hope.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ምሃንድሻ ምስ ሓሸላ
            ወይ ግጥሚ ጥዑም ከም ዝሕላ
            ዝወጸ ካም ምዓኮር-ዘይብሉ ዒላ
            ካብ ባሕሪ ካብ ዝገፍሕ ሓንጎል ጋብላ
            ነዛ ግጥሚ ኣጥዒምኩማ መዓር ወለላ
            ከምዚ ከማኹም ርኢና ኣይንፈልጥን ክኢላ

            ሕጂ ንምታይ ትተዃትኹኒ
            ኣዛሪብኩም ‘ከትሕጥኡኒ’?
            ተገልቢጥኩም ከተኸስትኑኒ
            ከም ሓዊ መጋርያ ተንበድብዱኒ
            ኡፍ እናበልኩም ተግሁሩኒ
            ኣደይ ኢታይ ዓለስ እኮ ኰንኩምኒ
            ዝኣኽለን ጥሒነን፡ ዝብላ መዓልቲ መድሃኒ
            በዓል ዘይብላ ዕለት ከምዘየላ ከተለፋልፉኒ

            ዕለት 12 ቅዱስ ሚካኤል ብጥብቂ ተኽብሩ
            ዕለት 11 ሃና-እያቄም ብማሕረሻ ትጽሕትሩ

            P.S. this is for Paulos. If you want more information on Ewostatewos and Abune Filippos of Debre Bizen, please read Pr Taddesse Tamrat church and state in Ethiopia, 1270 – 1527. I recall you quoting few things from his book.

          • Hashela

            ትሕሾ ድኣ

            ኣየ ጦቋ
            ክእለት ቋንቋ

            ገሊኡ ብስሓቅ ደሳራስር
            ገሊኡ ኣፍንጫካ ድስርስር

            ዑምቀቱ መጠረሽታ ኣልቦ
            ተስፋ እገብር ክረክብ ድግብኦ ኣቃልቦ

            ኢልካና ኣትብዑ ማሕረሻኹም
            ጽረቡ ዱግርኹም

            ገሌና መሬት ኣለና
            መዓልታዊ ሕረሱኒ ድብለና
            ዕርፍቲ ደሊና

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            “ መጽሓፍ ቅዱስ፡ እግዚኣብሔር ንሰብ ብመልክዑ ፈጠሮ ይብል። ኣነ ዝኣምኖ ኸኣ፡ ሰብ ንእግዝኣቢሔር ብመልክዑ ፈጠሮ፡ ብጠባዩ ገለጾ ኢለ ስለዝኣምን ጥራይ እየ።” Very interesting argument. You put it in to a philosophical framing of the opposites, and your argument sounds as “dialectical idealism” like Hegel as oppose to Marx’s “dialectical materialism.” ቆብ’ዶ ኣቢልካ ሃይላት?

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Aya Haile,
            Indeed, there are no sheep/cattle in Debre Bizen to make sure there are no female animals. It used to amuse me that the monks keep bees. I didn’t dare tell the qeshi who receive our Twaf and other offerings at the bottom of the hill, that most of the bees are female.

          • Haile S.

            Selam sis Abrehet,

            Good observation! Even if you consider the Lice that preoccupies the Monks and Monkeys grooming themselves/each-other the whole day, there are much more females than males. Can we assume Debre Bizen is free of Lice?

          • Hashela

            Selam Abrehet and Haile

            I think our monks are taking the easiest path to celibacy by banning everything that has a (visible) female organ. In my sadistic opinion, an daily beach walk would be an appropriate test.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Goitai Professor Hashela,
            Their daily prayer is “do not lead us to temptation”, it is not “bring it on and we will resist!” 🙂

          • Hashela

            ሃይል

            እዛ ኣብርሄት ትብሃል መርዓት ነግራም’ያ። ስርሔይ ከይወዳኩ፣ ልበይ ብስሓቅ ኣቕሲላቶ።

          • Haile S.

            ሓሸላ፡
            ተዛሪብካ ከተዛርበና ደሊኻ ኣለኻ። ስቕ ጥዑም። ኣርባይትና ድኣ ክንእርብት (ብቛንቛኻ እንተሰማዕካኒ:-) )!

          • Hashela

            Lieber Haile

            Ich verstehe. Aber einwenig Spass ist immer gut. Man sagt, dass Lachen den Kopf frei macht.

          • Haile S.

            Hashela,
            I need translation. Ich allemanen sprachen nicht! ተጻዒረ ጽሒፈልካ እንኤኹ! ኡፍ!

          • Hashela

            Haile

            Ok, here is a rough translation. I said

            “I understand. A small dose of fun is always good. Laughing is known to clean the lung and make a clouded mind free.”

            I wish I could speak French. I missed several opportunities!

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Hashel
      I know zelambesa
      እዙይ፡ is a common language አብ፡ጎልጎል፡ጫዐሎ፡and sroundin ማለት ፡አብ፡ ዐዲ፡እንደዳቦይ፡ንኡስ፡አቦይ፡ዐቢ

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Hashela,

        The word is very common in the southern borders of Akeleguzay and Serae. Unfortunately, there are sick people who want to disown them. Strange!!!

        • Hashela

          Selam Amanuel

          Very true! By doing so they are fueling the fire of division we believed we had overcome

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; this man made me to change my mind in many ways. you got to listen to this..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwtybB7Btn0&feature=emb_logo

    • Paulos

      Nitrikay,

      Here is Isaias’ fav song. Pink Floyd, “We don’t need no education.” This is remix with awesome beat.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TBTzy8rigQ

      • Abi

        Paul
        Isu dropped out of college listening to this song. Now he wants every Eritrean sing with him.
        We don’t need no education…

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    ባዓል ባድላ ምስ ሳምሶናይት and ጓሳ ምስ ጤለ-በጊዑን.

    The guy with a Samsonite and The shepherd with flock of sheep.

    A certain factory or business firm is limited, not only in its overall size but also in the range of functions that it can perform efficiently. For instance, General Motors makes millions of automobiles, but not a single tire. Instead, it buys its tires from Goodyear, Michelin and other tire manufacturers, who can produce this part of the car more efficiently than General Motors can. Nor do automobile manufacturers own their automobile dealership across the country.

    Typically, automobile producers sell cars to local people who in turn sell to the public. There is no way General Motors can keep track of all the local conditions across the length and breadth of the country, which determine how much it will cost to buy or lease land on which to locate an automobile dealership, or which locations are best in a given community, much less evaluate the condition of local customers’ used cars that are being traded in on new cars. In short, the automobile manufacturer specializes in manufacturing automobiles, leaving other functions to people who develop different knowledge [ሰብ ባድላ ምስ ሳምሶናይት] and different skills needed to specialize in those particular functions. Here the key word is “Specialization.”

    The common economic wisdom of any government is long term investment in Health and Education particularly the later is aimed at creating specialists of myriad fields. Producing specialists reduces costs of production as they promote efficiency, more over, specialization creates jobs and helps the country with comparative advantages as it engages in exports of its most desired goods and services to less disadvantaged nations of that particular goods and services.

    A shepherd tends goats and sheep to state the obvious and can make money of his flock by selling them in the market when meat and skin hides are in short supply. Can the shepherd process the hides to make leather for say, jacket, belts, car seats or shoes for that matter? And can he do all the paper work as in where to distribute the products and how much of it to distribute and at what price? Definitely not! Simply because, it is not only efficient, it is not practical either. His role is limited to selling the goats and sheep in the market including the raw skin. He needs skilled people and specialists to undertake the rest of the process.

    In reality, Eritrea doesn’t have a comparative advantage in world market for it is not one of the major producers and exporters of sheep, goats or cattles. As such, the shepherd can not be seen as the bed rock of Eritrea’s economy as the fool old man showcased his ignorance and arrogance to trembling duo journalist and to us his obedient citizens as well. In a true sense, nation building including economic growth starts with state-building first and foremost. And that is, Rule-Of-Law, Accountability, Constitutionalism including Civil-Liberties. The deranged old man needs to go!

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Paulo,

      I think everything Isayas says and does are wrong. But actually meat production as in canned food, was one of the first industry

      Meat canning industry was the Italians established, as they thought the country was best suited for live stock.

      In the 1960, one of the companies won world recognized award of the industry (Oscar for meat packing).

      There is a book titled “ Canned meat: A short history of the food canning industry in Eritrea” you can google.

      Berhe

      • Paulos

        Selam Berhino,

        True and thanks for the info. Remember, we had እንዳ ሜሬንጊ too where they manufactured bottles and as you know, bottles or glasses in general are made of liquefied sands. And we are blessed with plenty of sands so much so that we conjured up a saying out of it as in ዘይስንኻ ሑጻ ቆርጥመሉ!

        That said, I suspect, the meat was imported from Ethiopia for it was one of the major exporters of livestock in Africa including in the world where the company you mentioned had an easy access to it. The guy is shooting down intellectualism and professionalism out of spite probably due to a deeply seated inferiority complex when he flanked freshman year in college.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Paulo,

          May be but I don’t think so, at least in the early days for sure. Below is what it says the book I mentioned.

          Our generation have not really experienced the golden times our fathers experienced, and we take it for facts that our country was always been a miserable place for her own people.

          The other day I was talking to one of an elder Eritrean bilenay who was telling the story, the riches and wealth of Eritrean lowlands. He was saying the amount of live stocks some of the wealthy people use to own, in the thousands. I wish people like Saleh can speak to that, because we think there was nothing there.

          “After their arrival, the Italians considered Eritrea’s livestock to be one of the country’s most promising resources. In 1891, for example, Leopoldo Franchetti noted how agriculture and animal breeding were the two benchmarks of the country’s economy (Franchetti 1891). Italians believed that around one third of the land was covered by pastures, in a context in which the particular rainy climate of the country rendered it practically evergreen. Indeed, the monsoon winds and transhumance allowed Eritreans to benefit from a unique environ- ment and breeders had only to move from the areas affected by the humid winds of the Red Sea (rain in winter, lowland) to those prone to more tropical weather conditions (rain in summer, highlands). “

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            I just stop.reading u to comment when u said this” we take it for facts that our country(eritrea) was always been a miserable place for her own people”, there is no way that u guys r eritrean, there is no way u call ur own country “miserable place” just because u hate and oppose the gov/rulers of ur own country.
            me and millions Ethiopians born and grow up hating mengestu and meles’s politics and policies but except the tribalist i never heard any ethiopian called or even think ethiopia is a miserable place .

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Teodros,

            Obviously you are misunderstood what I am trying to say.

            I am not saying Eritrea is a miserable place but it has become a miserable place for her children., i.e, because of those who are ruling it.

            If you are saying, that’s is not necessary, may be you have a point.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            No i don’t misunderstood u.
            U said ” we take it for facts that our country was always been miserable PLACE for her own people” what u trying to.say is ” with out knowing ur fathers golden times and with out knowing eritrea was not miserable PLACE at the time of ur fathers generation but u (ur generation) think eri was and still is miserable PLACE( not administrate) for her own people.
            calling the gov/rulers caused misery on the people and calling the country miserable PLACE is 2 different things.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            selam ta,
            You are trying to act more catholic than the pope here. I see no emotion attached with you when you discuss about Eritrea.
            Eritrea was under successive colonies, even now by ደቂ ኣርበዓ.
            I can see from the way he writes, Berhe cares about his country and you know that.
            Ask that exact question to those hgdefites. Are you one of them?

          • Teodros Alem

            selam mm
            What a bagger, there is a different between miserable place and a misery caused under successive colonies. He(berhe) even said his fathers generation(colony generation) was golden time and under his generation(right now, after independence ) eritrea is miserable PLACE.
            my question for u is why u bagging 24/7 if u think eri is miserable place? To be miserable together?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam ta
            We are trying to fix that but your new uncle is now on our way 🙂
            We are facing continuous attack from your country. In stead of you guys work on your problem, you spend more time to ruin us, even if your country is going to the drain at the same time.
            ጥራይ ኤርትራ ትጥፋእ ምበር ዋላ ጥዋዕዋዕ ንበል ኮይኑ ናታትኩም።

          • Teodros Alem

            selam mm
            Don’t worry about ethiopia, ethiopia is under proud Ethiopians, under 3A, under Jawar, under cultural and relgion fathers of gamo, geda and so on.
            u worry about urself, worry about locusts and worry about safety net programs.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            selam ta,
            I wish you your country to have peace and prosperity but with your new uncle that is going to be impossible.
            From the Prof. Emma’s earlier link, your guy is preaching a precursor to genocide. It was pure hate speech.
            What I was surprised is that if Ethiopians knew that this guy was trained and groomed by the same people who is blaming. I am glad Meles is not alive to hear his speech. What a traitor your 3A is.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam mm
            That is stupid, why? even ur illiterate tplf soldiers were retrained by derg soldiers, that is the fact, most of them can’t even write and read when they came to addis.
            2nd, even if u think 3A trained and groomed by tplf and outsmart them and defeat them by thier own training ? It means tplf must be bunch of low IQ idiots .

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam mm
            Easy, be civil.
            If you have evil intention, you can do more damage more than your teachers. However, that doesn’t make you smarter than them.
            One thing I notice though, you have all the qualities [well according to them] of hgdfs.
            Hint: TPLF is not one person, I believe. So, there is no such thing of a group IQ. Well, at least in non-hgdf world.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam mm
            I said bunch of people and i was responding based on ur own pathetic logic and am telling u the truth and if u think it is not true, u can argue about it.
            For my question ur answer was ” u r trying to fix that but pia is now on ur way”? pia was there from the beginning.

          • Samuel

            ሰላም መሃንድስ,
            እንታይ ደአ እቲ ጋይላ ጠጠው አቢልካዮ:: እምብልታ የብሉን’በር ትህሊት እኮ’ዩ:: ኽሳብ ዝድረብ ይኾልል ነይረ፡፡

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሳሚ!
            ስብራ ምስ ጀመረ: ኣብራኽ ጠሊሞም። ዓለም ትችዓተ!

          • mokie berhe

            Salam መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ. Wrong. Collective Intelligence (CI) can be interpreted as intelligence quotient for groups (Group-IQ) even though the score is not a quotient per se.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi mokie,
            So, using your explanation, does that mean hgdf followers have extremely low IQ then. I say this because they can see the evil man in Adi Halo is leading them to the cliff and they are still clapping and admiring him. Your theory might work in this case.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ማሃንድሳይ,

            ነዚ ሰብ’ዚ መዘናኻ ድለ ጥራይ ኢልካ ኢኻ ትገድፎ:: ንበይኑ ከም ዕቡድ ክልፍልፍ ግደፎ:: ዋጋን ክብርን አይትሃቦ በጃኻ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Prof Emma/GY,
            You guys are right. I see no civility on his side. I will move on and thank you guys!

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Mehandis
            አታ፡ሐውና፡እዙይ፡መዛርብትኻ፡አይኮን
            ይርዳእካ፡ኢልካ፡ትገድፎ
            ገረመዲህን

          • Nitricc

            እዙይ፡

            I thought you were Eritrean who paid dearly; you said
            ” .as for me my brothers and sisters ,my cousin,my nephew and niece Pay a heavy price for that country” what a loser. I knew who exactly you are. great, digital weyane at its best.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Nitrickay,

            How do you know the word “ እዙይ” is not used in Eritrea, If you don’t know Eritrea and the Tigrigna language? The word is used in certain section of Eritrea. You have to be familiarized with “Eritrea” and “Tigrigna language” before you make any kind of critic about the “nation” and its “language.”

          • Nitricc

            Hey Aman-H; I have never met an Eritrean who use that kind of Tigrigna language. Never! in fact I learn that language to be Tigryan when I was talking some Tigryans in Denver. secondly why this Gebermedhin is digital weyane; look what he said Samueal

            The cruel man in Eritrea is teaching him how to kill people and destroy a country
            Egyptian are laughing man.

            Now what kind of Eritrea will say about Egypt? I am tell you I can detect them from far away.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Nitrickay,

            Are you doubtful about the cruelty of the evil man at the helm of power in Eritrea? Actually, Gebremedhin has a point. Because the disintegration of Ethiopia for which our despot is working very hard, the Egyptians government must be happy. A fragmented Ethiopia will weaken Ethiopia on the Nile river negotiations. So he has a point in his argument.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Aman-H you are missing the point. No Eritrean will worry about Egypt. No Eritrean. Only Ethiopians worry and care about Egypt. i.e. that was a clear evidence with Tigray Tigringa language; I conclude to be the dumbest member of digital wayane. I am born and reside by Eritrean parents and I have met Eritreans all over the world; none of them used “እዙይ፡” NONE! I can only go with what I know and I experience.

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam nitric
            Don’t lie
            You have no experience and you don’t know any thing about Eritrea
            I am sorry for you

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Hi nitric
            So what I am If I a Tigrean ?
            I am not but let me tell you thy are proud and gentle cultured people with a proud history of their own Hosting our brothers and sisters
            Which are running for your Demi god

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Nitrickay,

            You don’t have real experience on the real people inside Eritrea. And If you don’t a history of interacting with the Eritrean people on the ground, you don’t have any knowledge about the culture and language of the Tigrigna with its different dialects. Again the word at issue is spoken by one section of our society. Don’t make it “ ትንፈር እምበር ጤልያ እያ ክትዕካ::

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            Do you believe there are not more than one Tigrinya dialect in Eritrea? Do you think there is no common dialect in border areas?

          • Nitricc

            Hey SJ; I don’t anything about the border but I was talking from my own experience. I have never encountered an Eritrea who uses the words like ” እዙይ” and I just found someone pointed out to me that ” “አይኮን” itself is not Eritrean dialect. So, my take was not knowing anything about Eritrea or her border area dialect bus solely on my own experience talking to Eritreans I encountered to. If there is such dialect then let it be; I didn’t know.

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam nitric
            Yes you are right because you are not Eritrean you are pseudo Eritrean That is why you don’t know it
            I am sorry for you
            And the good thing is you would have been worse than the foot soldier of the cruel man if you were in Eritrea
            Thanks Lord

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam AH
            Thank you sir
            That Is why I ask this man if he know the actual Eritrea not the virtual Eritrea
            And thank you for explaining ,he can not understand it
            When Ww were in Scholl we call such people ጡንቻ
            No brain cell

          • Nitricc

            When Ww were in Scholl we call such people ጡንቻ

            Hi Gebremedhin; stop digging deeper and deeper. lol It sounds you guys say to each other in Mekelle schools. I don’t know but no schools in Eritrea would say that. I have a question for Eritreans went school in Eritrea; have you ever used the word “ጡንቻ” for no brain cell? lol you are funniest digital weyane. stick around.lol

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            Selam Nitric
            Let me help you ,it is Amharic
            The language of Addis
            I never say it is Tigrigna and I never say it is the language of Eritrea
            Don’t guess

          • Teodros Alem

            selam gy
            Let me help u , “Tuncha” means muscle and nobody used the word “tuncha” the way u used it in addis.

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            SelamT
            ይርዳእካ

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            The two languages I love the most and I never get tired of when people speak them are ትግረይት and ናይ እንደርታ or መቐለ ትግርኛ. Artistic quality in them and music to the ears as well.

            Consider this if you are saving brain cells when you get older that is: If Eritrean refugees in Tigrai meet the same fate as the Eritrean refugees in Sudan who had fled Eritrea in the 60s, they will be saying እዙይ፣ ኸዚ፣ ልዋ and it would be a tragedy if you remain stupid and call them names as you are doing now, simply because people grow and become wiser and I hope you will not rust in stupidity.

          • Haile S.

            ዓርኸይ ጳውልሻ፡

            ወይዋዮ! እዙይ ፍቕሪ ትግራይ’ይማ ኸጸልሎም ዶይኾነ!
            ዝኸርሙ ይመስሉን ኣብ ሃገሮም ሎሚቕነ
            ጠቕሊሎም ኸይኣትዉና ይኽደነነ

            ብዝኣትዎም ቛምቛ ብጊሓቱ ክልሃዮም
            ኣሳሕያ ናይ ዓርሶም ልሳን ካብ ኣትሓዞም
            እንድዒ ሎምዘበን ኣይጥዓዩን እንድዮም?

            ኽልተ ሾብዓየ ማርያም ደርዓንቶ
            የድልዮ እኒኦ ብዘይ እንኮ ሕቶ

            I agree with your core message.
            Of course you were expecting my answer. ተላህዮም የላህዩኻ….

          • Nitricc

            Hi Whatever your name is; at least Teddy doesn’t support and he is not a TPLF thug like your self.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Teddy,
            Ok what ever you say.

            You know, I picture you like the purple minion from despicable me 2 movie. It just goes and attacks l everything in its way:).

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Berhino,

            Well, in that case, it may not had been imported from Ethiopia. Thanks again for the info.

            What you said about the era of abundance is true. Consider this: Eritreans who lived in the 1930s, most if not all had been born in Colonial Italy where they didn’t have memory when Eritrea was part of Ethiopia. It is the same as the present Eritreans under 30 who don’t have any memory of the Dergue era much less of the King.

            As such, when Italians were at a breakneck speed to modernize Eritrea, the Eritrean generation who came of age at that time enjoyed a relatively comfortable life irrespective of Italy’s racist social laws where the infamous “Madamismo” comes to mind among others including the social segregation that was effected in to law particularly in downtown Asmara.

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Dottere,
      ኣይተስተዋሕዳ

      ኣቲ ጓለየ ‘ቲ ጓለየ

      ንመን ተሃብኩኺ ይሕሸኪ?
      በዓል ኣጣል ይሕሸኪ
      ‘ተዝብለኪ
      ‘ንታይ ምበልኪ?

      በዓል ኣጣል ደኣ ‘ንታይ ‘ለዮ
      ብጎተናኡ ድየ ክሓርዮ?

      ንሱ ምስ ጤለ-በጊዕ ክቃለስ
      ናተይ ናብራ ድዩ ክሕመስ?

      ዋእ ኣንቲ ጓለይ ኣነ ‘ታይ ፈሊጠዮ
      ጽቡቕ ይብል ኔሩ ‘ቲ ኢሳያስ
      ምዃንካ ንታይ ኣፍለጦ ‘ዚ ወልፋስ
      ግን ምናልባሽ
      ‘ት በዓል ጤል ተመተሮ በታ ፋስ
      ምሉእ ህዝቢ ምረኸበ ትንፋስ!

      እሞ
      ተሃብናኪ ን በዓል ሳምሶናይት
      ባድላ ተጀንጂኑ ምስ ወደየ ሰዓት
      ‘ታ ዝተሸከማ ‘ታይ ከም ዝመለአት
      ኣይፈለጥኩን ኣዴኺ ኣብረሀት
      ግን ደሓን ይመስል ብግምት
      ኣርሒቑ ዝሓስብ ይመስል ይእምት

      ደሓር ከኣ ኣምብሬዛ ካብ ዘይፈተዎ
      ኣነስ ይብል ተስፋ ‘ለዎ

      ኣብረሀት ዝብል ሽም ተጻዒነ
      ሎሚ ኮይኑ ኣብ ህግደፍ ዓዊነ
      ከመይ ወረጃ ድየ ግዲ ኔረ ኣነ?
      ዓዲ ብዓዳ ኣእሚነ

      ዝመርሕ ዝነበርኩ ጅግና
      ኮርዒዳ ኣብ መትከላ ዝሰጠመት
      ‘ኳ ‘ዩ ዝውረየለይ ኔሩ ኣብ ዓድና

      ጣቋ ‘ብሉን ኣምብሬዛ
      ካብኡስ ‘ት በዓል ጤል ከማን ተዝሕዛ
      ዓድና ሓፍ ክትብል ምስ ጀመረት ከምዛ ዋዛ

      ነታ ጤሉ ሓግዝኒ ምበላ
      ንሳ ምሓሸት ካብዚ ካይላ
      ብሰንኩ ሃገር-ብሃገራ ዓዲ ውዒላ

      ግደፉኒ ፔል ኣል ከምጽእ ‘ሞ ከንቃዕርሮ

      • Paulos

        ማሃንድሳይ,

        ሎምስ ክንጣራጠር ጀሚርና ካብዞም ሕቡባትን ውሩያትን ደረፍቲ ከይትኸውን፣ ምኽንያቱ እቲ ግጥሚታትካ ብሕልፊ እዚኣ ናይ ወዲ ትካቦ style ኣለዋ። Awesome!

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Dottere,
          I wis but I will take the complement!
          ክገርመካ: ካብቶም ዘድንቖም ደረፍትን ደረስትን ውሑዳት ክጠቅስ: ኣብራር: ቆርጫጭ: ወዲ ትኳቦ: ኣብራሃም ኣፈወርቂ: ባርያ: ዑስማን ዓብደልራሒም: ጎደፋ: ኢሳያስ ጸጋይ: ደበሳይ ወልዱ: ኣለና [ ረድኢ መሓሪ]: ታደሰ ኪዳነ: ተኽለ ተስፋዝጊ: ዮኑስ : ጊታር ድማ ተወልደ ረዳ: መሰልትን
          ከበሮ ዘለዎ ደርፊ መርዘን ‘ዩ ዘምጸኣለይ። ሶሪ

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            My top of the list are: ተኽለ ዕውር፣ ባርያ፣ ዮኑስ፣ ዑስማን፣ ዮሱፍ፣ ወዲ ትኳቦ።

            And I forgot his name [ጸጋይ በራኺ?], I guess I am tired. The song was something like this:

            ማይ እንዳሃረመ
            ኪፍኪፍታ ምስግመ
            እቶ ዘይትብልኒ’ዋይ
            እንታይ’ኮን በዲለ.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dottere,
            I was thinking Yonus was the singer for that, unless I am mistaken.
            Please also add Kiros Asfaha to this elite list.

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            I am kind of fuzzy about that song but you could be right. Sal might know, he is the resident Almanac of Eritrean artists.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            Who is Tekle Ewur. You mean Tekle Adhanom (Hiwket). He is my favorite. I saw him in concernt and there was an opportunity to meet him in person. He was such a nice guy, I don’t know why they call him hwket. For some reason after that event, he disappear from the scene. Years later I was in Germany and I met this person. I asked her about him, I knew he lived in Germany, and was wondering if something happened to him. Why hasn’t been singing? She told me, his wife passed away and he was raising his kids and he stopped playing music. I wonder if some of his songs was about her. there is his song on you tube “Tekle Adhanom (hiwket)” by “rafis1966” it has over 1.1 million hits.

            You are correct, that was by Tsegay Beraki. Afom Maeryu libom beliH lama is also by him. He died young and I think that was his only song.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Berhino,

            ተኽለ ዕዉር is ተኽለ ተስፋዘጊ. If you notice his eyes are a bit misplaced, kinda ቸሪኒ. That’s the reason he would look up when he sings. Yea I know ተኽለ ህውከት. Sorry to hear about his wife. I was almost sure It was ጸጋይ በራኺ and as you know, he was at his prime in the 80s and sad that he died young.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dottere:
            ተኽለ ዕዉር is politically incorrect from the sate that I am living 🙂
            BTW, ተኽለ ህውከት ን ጊታር የነቁዋ ተበልና ምግናን ኣይመስለንን

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            ብትግርኛ politically incorrect ኣሎ ኢልካዮ ዲኻ! It shouldn’t be too offending if I say it in ትግርኛ.

            For instance, I am known by ጳውሎስ ጨጋዕ because when I walk my right foot points to the East and my left foot to West but I don’t mind the moniker if you will.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Very funny, Dottere
            እሞ ሞኽሲ ኣምብሬዛ ኴንካ። ሳጓኡ ‘ኳ ጨጋዕ ‘ዩ 🙂
            The funnies thing related to this I have heard was for a ቸሪኒ person. I have heard one lady used to say her husband [ክልተ ናይ ጸጋም የዒንቲ ኣለዎ]

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            That’s so funny. No I was just messin with you. Yea I have heard about that joke. Do you remember ብርሃነ ሃይለ? He had great songs too. ‘ዝከረኒ ኣብ ኣስመራ ኩለን ኣዋልድየን ዘግ ዝብላሉ ኔረን.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dottere,
            The ሸው በሊ ቢሌነይ guy? I haven’t heard of him for a long time. Is he alive?

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            Yea that’s him. He had a rough time due to serious health issues. I think he had a kidney failure because there was a public drive to help him out a couple of years back. I think now he is doing ok.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            You are right Berhane Haile. I recently saw a long interview, I think it was in Aksum and he us doing fine after the transplant and went on telling his whole life history and songs etc. I really enjoyed.

            He said when he sang “show beli bileney”, he had never been to Keren.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            Ok, I remember his eyes, but I didn’t remember he was called like that.

            You are correct, it was Tsegai Beraki. In some event later on, when I left Eritrea I saw this beautiful girl. One friend said hi to her and told me, if I knew her. I said no, how can you expect me to know such nice looking girl, not in my league. He said, she was Tsegai Beraki girl friend. All his songs was for her. I don’t know what happened but I also heard she died not to long after. I don’t remember her name, may be Lia or something.

            Berhe

    • Samuel

      Selam Paulos,
      I like your concise but targeted message, keep it up.
      You said “In a true sense, nation building including economic growth starts with state-building first and foremost”.
      I don’t want to ruin your core message which is Eritrea economy and IA’s shepherd based economy (shepherdism) but let me ask you a question, regarding the Nation and State building, which should come first, Nation-building or State-building? I understand that we have to nurture both simultaneously, but shouldn’t citizens have a consensus on what kind of Nation the State has to build first? The Nation-building narrative is as important as building a strong State, if citizens don’t share the same level of the historical narrative of a Nation it could be difficult to build strong State. Even if you try to build institutions they will be suspect of other groups who have different view.

      Max Planck UNYB 9 (2005)
      “Nation-building is the most common form of a process of collective identity formation with a view to legitimizing public power within a given territory. This is an essentially indigenous process which often not only projects a meaningful future but also draws on existing traditions, institutions, and customs, redefining them as national characteristics in order to support the nation’s claim to sovereignty and uniqueness. A successful nation-building process produces a cultural projection of the nation containing a certain set of assumptions, values and beliefs which can function as the legitimizing foundation of a state structure. So far, this has happened essentially in societies with substantial elements of “social modernity”. Among the elements which distinguish such societies from pre-modern ones, are: an open system of stratification allowing and encouraging social mobility, the state as an impersonal form of government, the pursuit of economic growth, and a cultural system establishing collective meaning and identity for all envisaged members of society.24 In order to avoid misunderstanding, it is important to state the temporal and spatial contingency of the nation state, i.e. the fact that this form of political organization finds its origins in western Europe in the 18th and 19th century.”

      What is your take?

      Thanks,

      • Paulos

        Selam Samuel,

        Glad you like it. Thank you.

        This is pretty broad in scope where one has to cite historical precedents to see the distinction between the more often overlapping narratives of state, nation and country.

        That said, as you have cited the scholar’s “rendition”, to the bare minimum, state is a political entity that comes to the fore either through consensus or violence where-as a nation is a product of an organic process. As such, a nation is as old as humanity where bands evolved into tribes and tribes into nations. On the other hand, a state formation arose through wars when principalities or fiefdoms collected taxes from their subjects for war efforts and the mechanism of collecting taxes created a structure whereby it evolved into bureaucratic-state formation. To be more precise, war created state.

        The question however remains: what kind of state? Highly centralised? Or Montesquieu’s division of power into Executive, Legislative and Judiciary or a Totalitarian or a chimera of all sorts al’a Isaias’ regime?

        The challenge is that, what if the state becomes so powerful so much so that, it corrodes civil liberties, and that is where the role of institutions come into play as in Rule-Of-Law and Accountability where they keep the power of the State in check. Often times however, it becomes imperative to have a stronger state to the extent of stifling civil liberties for shorter term particularly when the economy is led by the state al’a the Tiger nations of the late 70s and 80s including Meles’ Ethiopia as well. In the end, it becomes not only a matter of perspective but also it might not be “one fits all analogy.”

        • Samuel

          Thank you, Paulos.
          When I wrote this I was thinking Ethiopia and other European countries who had passed thru this Nation building difficulties. As you know one of the biggest challenge we have in Ethiopia is the Nation building part. Part of the reason why we don’t have strong institutions is because we don’t trust each other, we don’t trust the institutions, in part that starts with the historical narrative of the Nation. One wants to be dominate of the other, one wants to impose his own history, value, and beliefs. We don’t have common heroes, we don’t have common success that we can agree on, we don’t even agree on the historical grievances and injustice not alone to agree on the successes. How can you have Strong State (having strong democratic institutions) without agreed on what kind of Nation to build.
          Take for example what PMAA said this week, he was speaking as if there are two countries (Ethiopia and Tigray). If you think about it how could I participate in his Nation building narrative if he keeps this divisive narrative. I am just bringing up this how our mistrust is being built up. My core message is on the Nation building consensus, it is imperative before even building strong democratic institutions. If you agree on the Nation-building narrative then it will be easier to agree on building strong institutions.

          Thanks,

          • Paulos

            Selam Samuel,

            I think, before we address the idea of Nation Building, we should look into the concept of Legitimacy particularly with in the Ethiopian historiographyic context

            Ethiopia was a mere geographical concept before it emerged victorious in the Battle of Adwa when European powers recognized her as a power to reckon with. But certainly, before Menilik gained legitimacy as a ruler of a state among world powers, his predecessors tried to gain legitimacy through their allegiances to the Orthodox Church and sole claimants to the Solomonic Dynasty as well. These two powerful pillars carried the rulers starting from the Axumite Kingdom till 1974 as a modus operandi in a bid to build a nation. And essentially, they did.

            The historical fallacy however, became palpable and more pronounced when Shoa emerged as a powerful ethno-linguistic and cultural entity when it pushed it’s tentacles into the South, South-East and South-West in a bid to Amharize, Christianize the “heathen” and the “savage.” Ethiopia’s nationhood in the end was exposed when Ethno-Nationalist Fronts challenged the core of the legitimacy that had carried it since 4th Century A.D.

            The choice was clear: Either to recognize the nations and nationalities the right for autonomy or risk of disintegrating the nation as a whole. Certainly, the way forward was to politically capitalize on diversity but united in a Constitution that is rooted in Federal arrangements. And in my opinion, it worked till the governing party became a victim of its making when it got bogged down in corruption and cronyism and the diversity turned into a precarious liability to the extent of disintegrating the nation as we see it now. Abiy is taking the nation to square one when he is fanning hatred when his talking points a year or so ago were love and forgiveness. That is to say that, state building is a luxury in a nation that is on a verge of collapsing and it ought to focus on how to keep itself together through smart modus vivendi.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Samuel; You can quote all the white man in the world and you can research everything under the sun but the truth is nation building and true democracy depends and archived through fair social justice. With out social justice, nothing can be achieved, no true democracy, no nation building. look at your back yard, TPLF thugs, they are feeding their people through Aid 15 kilo grains and some cooking oil, yet, look where thugs hangout; the best hotel in the city. They are old and corrupted to the core. As of Tigray, you have only one choice, go back to the table work with federal government. You have to understand one point clear and crystal, that is the USA will not let stand against PMAA; adding to the mix Eritrea, simply you can’t. True, you can show toothless military show in the city, the truth is you are fooling yourself. Make peace with Eritrea, get out of the Eritrean land. Make peace with Amara by getting out from the Amara land. You can’t afford to make everyone around you an enemy. You are already back where you started 45 years ago. think about it? The problem is you take yourself bigger than actually you are. Don’t forget you represent 6% of the Ethiopian population, act like it. you are not better than the others.

      • Abi

        Hello Samuel
        I’m cautiously optimistic that Tigray will have a very strong team for the Paris Summer Olympics in 2024.

  • Nitricc

    Hi all the best day for Eritrea. Ethiopia has started to close refugee camps in Tigray. this is the great day. I am sure the Tigrayans opposed it, because simply it is cash revenue but PMAA used his power to make this happen. thank you PMAA again.

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Salem Ntric
      Cruel
      ዘይኩርምትኻ ፡ሑጻ ፡ሕየኸሉ
      Not surprising you are the person who was celebrating when the whole world was mourning on the death of Eitreans young and old on the Mediterranean Sea
      There will be a day when Eritreans will laugh and mock you when their time comes
      Gebremedhin

      • Nitricc

        Hey Gebremedihin; I feel your pain. you are losing your cash cow. but the truth is only the lazy and the flunky go to Tigray’s refugee comp. I have no sympathy what so ever. They will rerate it very soon. watch.

    • Gebremedhin Yohannes

      Selam Nitric
      Just curious be truth full to your self have been to Eritrea?
      Do you know Eritrea?
      My name is Gebremedhin I am not hiding behind the screen and laugh at my brothers and sisters misery and I don’t think you have any relative in Eritrea .as for me thanks lord I live in this blessed country called USA .i could have say so many things about your character but not me ,you go ahead open this vulgar mouth of you .i assure you when this cruel man depart in the near feature not far we will see what you will say
      Gebremedhin

      • Nitricc

        Hi Gebremedhin; No tigryan cares about an Eritrean. Do you know what you did in 1998? do you know what you did the last 20 years? Now when Eritrea and Eritreans beats on your game; you begun to care? Really? again there is no Tigryan who cares about an Eritrea; all is for show and out Tigryans desperation. let’s tell the truth.

        • Gebremedhin Yohannes

          Selam Nitric
          Me Tigryan nothing wrong with it but I assure you ,you can not count more than 3 generation the maximum in Eritrea .as for me my brothers and sisters ,my cousin,my nephew and niece Pay a heavy price for that country .
          And you ???????

          Enough with you
          Gebremedhin

          • Nitricc

            as for me my brothers and sisters ,my cousin,my nephew and niece Pay a heavy price for that country .

            And you? Nothing! case close. Trust me I detect anti Eritrea a mile away. People who lost and paid heavy price won’t side against the very country they paid dearly for. The End! find someone to fool.

      • Teodros Alem

        selam gu
        Speaking of laughing at ur own bro and sisters misery, how often did u heard the tigraians talk about the problem the tigraians facing in tigrai?