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The Death of Mihret Eyob as an Illustration

The Eritrean tragedy is not obscure to anyone who follows current events; there is an international awareness about the thousands of prisoners of conscience in the country. And Eritreans know that the awareness about their plight is a result of a dedicated and resilient struggle by people of goodwill, and Eritrean activists who made sure the victims are not forgotten. Unfortunately, the role of most of the relatives of the prisoners, their friends and close associates, in fighting for the freedom of the victims, has been abysmal. In fact, the silence of some of them borders on complacency.

Regrettably, those who should be on the forefront demanding freedom for their loved ones, those who should spearhead the struggle to end their suffering, are not as visible as they should be. Ideally, exerting pressure on the culprit to free the victims should have been the concern of the timid relatives and friends of the imprisoned, who are selfishly living their lives as if nothing has happened.

Nevertheless, it’s an established fact that the Eritrean regime is vengeful and has a track record of punishing relatives of people who escape the indefinite servitude it imposes on the youth. It humiliates the relatives of its opponents it can’t reach, and sends threatening signals to those who might inflict damage on it if they opened their mouth. It’s also known for its sadistic behavior and its emotional abuse of innocent relatives to inflict maximum pain on its real or perceived enemies. And that is the cause of the deafening silence of some people who feel so much threatened that they prefer to be quite despite the pain.

Understandably, it’s difficult for anyone who is not in their shoes to appreciate their situation—they are anxious and blackmailed individuals who live in agony. However, it is fair to assume that they can do a lot better than complete silence. Here, the main observation is not necessarily concerning the blackmailed individuals per se, but the entire Eritrean society.

Sadly, the Eritrean government’s blackmailing tactics have encouraged a few people to shamelessly peddle their silence as a virtue, and to pledge allegiance to the misleadingly named segment, “Silent Majority”, a brand they hide behind, and portray as an epitome of wisdom. Can an affected person, or anyone else for that matter, be consciously silent about the plight of the prisoners? Importantly, what is the value of an Eritrean life and a citizen’s freedom?

The value of life and freedom

One can confidently say that the rulers of Eritrea have managed to cheapen life, though throughout remembered history, Eritrean lives were squandered for one cause or another, by one despot or another, with only brief intervals of peaceful time. Not unexpectedly, the last epic struggle that Eritreans waged for self-determination was the first they ever fought as a nation and paid a heavy price for it. Unfortunately, the ruling regime conveniently forgot the struggle was in pursuit of freedom and human dignity; it behaves as if it was to replace one tyrant with another. Worse, it took the sacrifice of Eritreans for granted and carelessly uses it to advance its narrow interests. Therefore, it’s not difficult to recognize that the regime loathes the concept of personal and communal freedoms, when it doesn’t value human life. But is that disregard for life and freedom a characteristic trait of the ruling regime, or a social attitude of Eritreans?

Human beings deal with death and afterlife in so many ways. Hindus and Buddhists believe that the body perishes while the Atman (sprit) is reborn repeatedly in other forms of Samsara (reincarnation), based on karma; a righteous existence can release the soul from the cycle of karma to nirvana, an existence of no suffering or desire. Generally, followers of Abrahamic religions believe that the body perishes, but the spirit goes through a divine trial in the afterlife to either live eternally in heaven, with God, or receive varying degrees of punishments in hell.  And Atheists believe that the body decomposes and is reduced to its natural elements in a process of recycling, and finally it mixes with earth, water, and air.

In the Middle Eastern cultures, people who die in a political conflict are considered martyrs whose soul go straight to heaven—no questions asked! That is why when a government soldier or a rebel fighter die fighting against each other, both are considered martyrs by their respective parties—even if it is a civil war. That culture, which is supported by divine scripture, is well established in the region, and that is why most people do not die, they are martyred. However, Eritreans face a dilemma when a victimized prisoner and his jailer die: are both considered martyrs?

The Eritrean regime defines death depending on how loyal the dead persons is to the regime— based on the level of loyalty, the deceased is either martyred, or just “pass away”. Without loyalty to the regime, a lifelong service to the nation doesn’t weigh much.

The Isaias regime killed Mihret Eyob

On April 14, 2017, the government-media announced that the “Veteran Fighter Ms. Mihret Eyob has passed away aged 65.” She was not martyred as the rest of her colleagues—unless the PFDJ suddenly embraced its atheist nature and simply abandoned the tradition of martyrdom!

Sadly, not many people mentioned Mihret while she was alive and was separated from her husband by the cruel regime since 2001. Now that she is dead, there is a flood of articles, poems and obituaries eulogizing her. Why were all silent? Is a dead Eritrean worth more than alive? What is the value of freedom? Where are the relatives who should be screaming before the victims die?

The answer is fear, real or perceived.

In PFDJ’s Eritrea, talking about a family member makes you selfish and individualistic, talking about the suffering of your village people, makes you clannish, talking about your province, makes you a regional, talking about religious rights, makes you a sectarian—the only kosher topic the regime tolerates is empty sloganeering. And so many, including the hyphenated affiliates of the rulers of Eritrea, repeat its propaganda and help erode natural values and freedoms, and maybe inadvertently help break up the family unit. Undeniably, some elements (and vested interest groups) abuse the natural affiliation of people and their natural identities, to wreak havoc among the people. But that cannot be prevented when Eritreans are atomized and they live suspecting and fearful of each other. Unfortunately, some people are so intimidated they have internalized the ruling party’s justifications or are so selfish they do not feel obliged to fight for the rights of their relatives let alone their compatriots. The life and death of Mihret illustrate that Eritrean tragedy.

On April 14, 2017, the ruling party’s website announced that Mihret “passed away.” However, the last sentence in the announcement, though it sounded more like an afterthought than a natural continuation of the announcement, was obviously a face saving attempt: “The funeral service of the late veteran fighter Mihret would be conducted today, 15 April, at 4 o’clock at the Asmara Martyrs Cemetery.”

At least her body was allocated a burial space with other martyrs.

Mihret Eyob joined the Eritrean armed struggle in 1978 and became a teacher at the revolutionary school. After independence, she served in many capacities and was a member of the constitution commission. She had a master’s degree from the Birmingham University and was the wife of Beraki Gebreselasse who has been in prison without charge since 2001.

Beraki Gebreselassie, abandoned his teaching job in 1971 and joined the Eritrean armed struggle. He was the head of the educational department of the EPLF. After the independence of Eritrea, he first served as minister of education and then as minister of information. Habtom Yohannes, an Eritrean-Dutch citizen who worked on some project with him wrote, Beraki refused to shut the nascent media stating, “I don’t want to be remembered as the minister who closed media and who jailed journalists.” Apparently, that’s when Isaias Afwerki pushed him out of the country as an ambassador to Germany. In 2001, he was arrested together with his colleagues who came to be known as the G15, the imprisoned senior government officials whose whereabouts are still unknown.

Mihret took care of her family alone, and saw the children she raised grow up only to be conscripted into the indefinite servitude by the regime that jailed her husband. Being an employee of a regime that makes your husband disappear, and takes away the children you raised alone, and living under its mercy, must have been too painful to endure.

Though the Eritrean government indicated that Mihret died of natural causes, there are rumors that suggest that on the morning of April 13, Mihret jumped off the ministry of education office building where she worked, and committed suicide. According to some reports, the draft announcement initially read that her death was an “accidental death”, and that it was later changed by the president’s office to read, “she died after she was being treated for a sickness inside Eritrea and abroad.”

No one contests the fact that she died in the morning hours of the 13th.  And if she jumped off the building in broad daylight, in a major street in Asmara, in a building that borders a busy promenading sidewalk, in a ministry office where there are dozens of employees, facts cannot be that obscured.

Many who agonized like Mihret for too long have either lost their minds, or died a slow death. She was not different, but a visible and known victim. The PFDJ government was killing her slowly since it jailed her husband. And there are thousands of children, spouses, and parents who are suffering silently like she did. They are being killed slowly by the monstrous Eritrean regime. Mihret was killed by the regime. May she rest in peace.

NB: Drawing by Gemal Sengal

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  • iSem

    Hi Kim:

    I can agree with that and if you are from Dedebit a positive thing to say about Ethiopia can come naturally 🙂

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Friends,
    There are good people everywhere. And like Amde would say, every village its own idiots. Some months ago, there was a social gathering in a house where more Eritreans and two or three Ethiopians were present. The event was by an Eritrean family and (after the last war) it is becoming more common these days to find mixed presence of socializations between the two peoples. PFDJ hates this kind of gatherings. Though they don’t have the kind of money Trump has or the kind of power to force a southern neighbor to pay for the wall to be built on the border, they are building the wall of hate in their hearts and minds. And they are polluting every innocent. If the adults are already aware not to be willing to be in suspension of disbelief, they go to the young and soil the tabula rasa, the very clean and unsuspecting souls. That is one of their evil work in the ypfdj. Even the small monkeys go to smaller groups under the disguise of tutoring and do the same.
    back to the social gathering: there was a political chat that drifted to be about IA. Many were silent but the people who were freely talking about IA were from the opposition of IA. But one speaker was particularly speaking how IA is outsmarting everyone, especially Ethiopian and Sudanese leaders. And his one example was that he convinced Sudan to sell him power (30 MW) from its national grid. Bear in mind the fact that Sudan buys e;electricity (150 MW?) from Ethiopia. So, this guy was referring how IA ended up buying Ethiopia’s power at a cheaper price while sustaining his hate towards the same country.
    One of the Ethiopians were pulled to say something into the discussion. While everyone thought he would be uncomfortable on the fact that Ethiopia was being short changed in such a by-passer deal, he praised Sudan for doing what she did. And he said to the effect that it is in line with Ethiopian national interest if the Ethiopian leaders indeed figured this out after the fact or earlier, and if they have let it go happily. His justification was: if we do it for the Sudan, it is unfortunate that couldn’t have been directly without a betweener but at least, the fact there is some kind of connectivity is a positive thing. Two, it is a market network that goes for a long time in the future. Three, such kind of interdependence might also factor to be a positive force of peace and integration. Four, electric power is one of the few utilities that mostly go straight to the people.

    • Kebessa

      Hayat,
      You said “While everyone thought he would be uncomfortable on the fact that Ethiopia was being short changed in such a by-passer deal, he praised Sudan for doing what she did.”
      First of all given the politics of secrecy of the two governments, we the people have no good tools to separate facts from others. So IF it is a fact that Ethiopia is being shortchanged by Eritrea’s indirect purchase of Ethiopian electricity, why do you think Ethiopia is allowing this?
      Because, Ethiopia
      1) is ignoring it for the long term relations between the two people/country
      2) is still making as much profit as if it were from Sudan, althought it should’ve been higher from Eritrea
      3) is pressured by the Sudan to be cool about it
      4) is avoiding another front untill the completion of the Nile project
      5) other scenarios

      • Hayat Adem

        Kebessa,
        Like you said, secrecy is the norm of the gvts and we would’t tell the facts from the fictions easily. But an independent analyst confirmed it to me about the power relay over to Eri from Sudan. He also confirmed the amount to be such. He is of the opinion that Ethiopia must have been notified about the idea when the deal was happenning. As to him Ethiopia might have implictly agreed with a silent nod to ease some geopolitical loads off Sudan shoulder and because they saw nothing that compromises Ethiopia’s vital interests. The analysts view seems in line partly what you put on 2, and partly on 3. Or there maybe other dictating considerations. I

    • Nitricc

      Hi Hayat, I wonder how low you can go to protect your stupid leaders while dehumanizing every one who stands against your Weyane. Can I ask you what the difference might be from what the stupid weyane are doing versise the government of Eritrea? If you had a shred of decency; you could have acknowledged the point of Eritrea. all Eritrea saying is, nothing matters with out the rule of law, the law that your gutless weyane choose to ignore. besides;
      Is not your weyane sustaining the hate despite they can benefit enormously if they had make a peace with Eritrea? I know and you know this but despite your BS, the no peace and no war harmed the Tigryans more than the Eritreans. Starting from ZalaAmesa, Rama, Adawa, enticho, all the way to your village Adi-grat and Mekele are suffering the most because of this stupid and hate sustaining strategy. If it wasn’t for the hate sustaining weyane, those places could have a booming business and enormous economic advantage if the had peace With Eritrea. I know i don’t expect you to know this but do you know what the distance from Massawa to your village comparing the distance from the D-booty? And you have the nerve to talk about the price of sustaining hate? Don’t you worry though, the usual gutless once won’t call you out on this one instead they will cheer you out. if the truth means anything then All Eritrea saying is, let the rule of law be respected and implemented fully and then only then we can sit, talk and normalize. How hard is this simple thing to understand? you are the most dishonest and coward person ever!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Nitricc,
        Let me agree with you on somethings you said.
        1) you said : all Eri is saying is nothing matters more than the rule of law. And that is a fair point. Rule of law is important as it applies to international relations as well as in governing citizens. For example, attacking and invading neighbors and starting wars for no reason is aganist the rule of law. Incarcerating citizens without charge, including seniors and minors, for years is against the rule of law. That is why you and I should join our voices and resources to end the gvt system in Eri and replace it with a one that introduces and honors the rule of law.
        2) you also said: the no war no peace hurts Tigray more than Eri. I don’t know for sure if they have been hurt by this situation of NWNP more than we9 are. But I will agree with you that this NWNP is hurting everyone, and maybe hurting harder the local communities along the border both sides. And no body is gaining anything from the current situation at all. That is why you and I should call for ending it and for the start of normalization and cooperation of the two fraternal countries.

  • Gud

    Selamat the good people of this xxxx forum!!

    Kemey, kemey? Kulu aman do?

    I see progress in this forum. Real and amazing progress ! I mean you have to give it to the Woyanies. I mean seriously they are good. Well, good towards being more evil and more hideous. When we talk about the resilience of the Eritrean people, we mean to do the good thing, to achieve the good thing. Keep that resilience but flip the good part 180, and you will get the resilience of the Woyanie. Reselience to do evil. To be more hideous, more ugly.

    Back to the progress thing. I never knew one could master dialects, accents, wording etc in such a short time. Sure after a break or something, a training or something, but still….

    Take for instance the progress of the “Beautiful female” (Yea, right!), queen (yes, a QUEEN!) Hayat Adem. I mean look how much our QUEEN traveled from:

    ኣቕቢጩ
    all the way to things like
    “entai mekera rekhebna ‘tum sebat!!!”

    You got to give it to the QEEN !

  • ‘Gheteb

    The Speech, I Mean, That Speech Of 1977!

    Greetings!!

    Right on the heels of liberation of Keren, maybe a day or two after the guns went silent, Keren was returning slowly to normalcy. Keren was abuzz with activities in those days. Kerenites were returning from the outskirts of the city where they have taken refuge. One saw the movements of EPLF fighters moving throughout the city interacting with the civilians freely. One, also, saw the movements of EPLF’s military vehicles and tanks. Shops and other businesses were starting to open. One, also, noticed that even the walk and gait of Kerenites becoming more brisk and PURPOSEFUL as that oppressive weight of the Ethiopian rule was just interred a couple of days ago and Kerenites have started breathing easily and freely.

    A day or two after the liberation of Keren, I noticed a small military vehicle, A Jeep, with two or three passengers in it. One of the passenger, was holding a loud speaker and announcing through it that a public meeting is scheduled in that same evening. The venue was to be at Keren’s High School Soccer Field. After 6 PM of that same day, Kerenites started flocking to the Soccer Field. Young and old; male and female; fighters and civilians. The Soccer Field has become a sea of Kerenites. Almost all seemingly to be engaged in conversation and their jubilation readily palpable.

    It was past 6 PM and it was getting dark. Soon, it was called that the meeting was to commence. It was announced that everyone should rise and remove any head gears such as caps s/he was wearing and a moment of silence, Z’kere Sematat (ዝክረ ሰማእታት) was to be held in memory of the fallen heroes and heroines of the Eritrean armed struggle. Right after the call of the moment of silence one curious thing happened. First,’ the sky of Keren was split’ with a barrage of the EPLF anti-Aircraft guns, the Doshkas and MimTas. The sky was lit the sound of the guns filled the air. Kerenite ears were accustomed to these sound of the gun because they have been in a battle scene just days ago.

    While the sky of Keren looked and sounded like a July 4th eve spectacle on steroids with the sound and light of the anti-aircraft guns, a loud ululations and wailings of joy filled the gathering during the moment of silence. After the moment of silence, the person at the stage who was scheduled to deliver the speech spoke in a voice that was uncharacteristically CALM and said that it was verboten to speak or ululate during the minute of silence. I can still remember that sentence in Tigrigna: (ኣብ ግዜ ዝክረ ሰማእታት ዕልልታን ዘረባን ኣየድልን አዩ). Later on, I came to learn that was the voice of Tegadalay Isaias Afwerki. Right after those sentences, the skies of Keren started roaring with thunder and it started to rain heavily. The meeting was cancelled and the meeting was scheduled to take place in a different venue at Keren’s Soccer field.

    The next night, the meeting started and finished without a hitch. The speaker spoke in Tigrigna and another fighter was translating it to Arabic. But, after a couple of minutes, the speaker was translating his speech to Arabic and did so throughout his speech. I listened intently to the speech and I still remember that the speaker gave a generalized history of the Eritrean armed struggle and the eleven points that the EPLF passed on its first organization congress. What I also remember is that the person delivering the speech was clad in Khaki pants and a green military field jacket and his speech was recorded in a tape recorder.

    Who was the speaker? I don’t think Kerenites knew who the speaker was in that night. However, some time later, we came to learn that the speaker was Isaias Afwerki. The speech was indeed the talk of the town and people discussed it for a while. I did my part of discussion with my friends as we tried to gain insights to EPLF’s political ideologies. What I and Asmerom RedaE agreed in amazement at how minimally Isaias used English words during his speech. He only used two words, one of which was the term “institution” and the other being “policy”. Some months later, Ramadan Mohammed Nur was to give one of the most spectacular speeches I have heard during a 4 to 5 hours speech in which he spoke in both Arabic and Tigrigna and sometimes in Tigrait. I still remember how Ramadan talked at length about the EPLF’s commitment to equality among Eritreans and how the EPLF is intent on extending electric lights to neglected areas such as the sector in Keren known as “the sector or zone of Tokarir — Hilet Tekorir). Ah, there it is what the PFDJ talks about regularly, the basis of Social Justice in Eritrea.

    This was the start of what The New York Times of December 19, 1977 reported on ” ERITREAN INSURGENTS RUNNING ‘MINI‐STATE” about the spectacular military victories of the EPLF. Here is the introductory paragraph;

    ” KEREN, Ethiopia, Dec. 17 (Reuters) – Eritrean rebels seeking independence from Ethiopia have set up their own “mini‐state” in which they are able to provide electricity and supply water and schools, hospitals, and bus service”

    And, about the battle of Keren, here is what one finds from the book ” Against All Odds”, by Don Connel.

    ” The liberation of Keren was the most stunning single guerrilla victory from both a military and a political standpoint”.

    ” The EPLF took Keren on July 8, 1977 at 5:30 PM ….”

    ” Asmerom Gherezghier, who COMMANDED the EPLF forces, that took Keren told me that….”.

    Yes, this is the same Asmerom Gherezghier, Commander of EPLF’s Brigade 8, which along with Brigade 23 did the lion’s share of the fighting in the battle of Keren of 1977. Along with the martyred Ibrahim Affa and Said Ferej, Mohammed Omer B’rirray and the Fillipos and other mid-level commanders of Brigade 8.

    These were at the top of the EPLA leadership that planned and commanded the epic battle of Keren in 1977.

    .

    • iSem

      Gheteb: very impressive, a photographic memory you have been bestowed that remembers from 40 years ago, the two English words that IA used and how at16 you actually discussed policy, what a prodigy you are. So can you dig, which you can do with ease into your reservoir of memory and tell us how life was later until EPLF left. Tell us the anti -social thing the kids did like eating the meat of dog to shock the people, and how they arrested and disappeared elderly pensioners who even Dergi allowed to travel to Asmera and to collect their pensions. How like they did after independence they rounded up innocent people and along with the pensioners they would never return. Since you were analyzing and critically thinking at the tender age for 16, can you also tell us about the meeting where the ELF and EPLF fighters were supposed to break the ice and play and dance together. Can you tell us of the binge drinking and whoring of the leaders that you have mentioned here. You have accomplished of removing Beraki from the picture, but I give you credit in this comment, you did it subtly without mentioning his name. But do not gloat, this trick of impeaching the history of people is not original IA, the one you have been obsessed with since the first sight in your adolescence has done it with DeruE: he removed the clip that they both were dancing to a Tig song, Asmarinos laugh about it, it was so stupid, so when I say, you did it subtly, I am saying I am laughing it was so stupid, it was after MS and SGJ challenged you and told you are a mornon, but unlike me without using the word.

    • tes

      Selam Gheteb,

      Spoiled since 1977 by EPLF ideology and since then lionizing DIA. What a disaster!

      You wrote:

      The speech was indeed the talk of the town and people discussed it for a while. I did my part of discussion with my friends as we tried to gain insights to EPLF’s political ideologies.

      May your god [DIA] give you mercy.

      tes

      • Peace!

        Selam tes,

        We all know ‘Gheteb is an outspoken PFDJ supporter and he is defending the regime relentlessly regardless whether his sources and facts are accurate or otherwise. In other words, as a regime supporter, he is doing what he supposed to do. In response, we, on the other side, have limited ourselves to personal attacks either due to excessive outrage of his claims or due to lack of history knowledge to challenge or ignore him. Now, what is the role of justice seekers and opposition leaders to stop PFDJ from murdering more people and farther destroying the country because attacking ‘Gheteb and whining about him is a waste of time and energy. He is doing his homework, and what about the rest of us?

        Peace!

        • tes

          Selam Peace!

          I think it is wise if I talk about myself on the question you are addressing as everyone has his say.

          I am doing what I should at this moment. And for the future, I will see what will happen. If you consider what I am doing as a waste of time it is your own. For me it is not. Destroying PFDJ can be done through many and different ways. One is to defeat its ideology. Hayat Adem is saying that PFDJ Ideology is no more in existence though its physical is. I might differ from her conclusion though I strongly believe that PFDJ ideology is more than ever exposed and has become a laughing stock both in the opposition camp and its constituent.

          Justice Seekers and Opposition leaders are now trying to develop a common ground. Hopefully we will see proper political power structure within a short time possible. In case, Ismail AA and I are exchanging on this idea.

          After exhausting PFDJ ideology, I am currently developing my proper political philosophy. And this is will be in Modern Liberal Democrats Ideals..

          What about you Peace!

          Are you still opposing the opposition? Where are you going to be a justice seeker?I think the Orromo thing is getting stable and Ethiopian Muslims are peace lovers. What is your next move?

          tes

          • Peace!

            Hi tes,

            My intention was to help people focus on issues that matters, obviously not to portray your reply to ‘Gheteb as a waste of time, and certainly not seeking a report on your personal effort. To me going after PFDJ supporters is a sign of weakness and sadly, it shows no tangible work in progress or at least to debate on. I mean defeating ‘Gheteb in a debate doesn’t add anything to the purpose of the other side.

            As for your question when am I going to be part of the justice seeker, I am a justice seeker not only for Eritreans, but also for Ethiopians, Palestinians, and for all justice seeking people.

            Peace!

          • tes

            Selam Peace!

            If you were focusing on the main issue for sure many could have done. Unfortunately you are among those who focus on issues that doesn’t really matter Eritrean issue. Though I am also justice for everyone I focus on Eritrean issue above any other issues that I care.

            Gheteb is the last ideologist to be defeated.

            Do you remember when he was passionately talking about his family business in Keren, most probably those working with PFDJ on lutting poor people by collecting gold at a lower price? He told us that his family receive direct supervision from DIA.

            Peace!, it is good to hear you saying “I am justice seeker”. This is good. Stop therefore opposing justice seekers and deal with your own seeking.

            tes

          • Peace!

            Selam tes,

            I wish I can say the same, but I really do not care whether you are a justice seeker or else, nor I have the entitlement to judge you. Please stick to the subject and focus less on personal tours. Anyways, thank you I thought I can initiate a sober conversation, but I guess you are not in a mood, Gerkala Dika:)

            Peace!

          • tes

            Selam Peace!

            You are among those whom I have no appetite to discuss on important issues. Mostly I react to your “opposing the opposition” agenda. Nay gerkala gele yitsnihalna.

            tes

          • Peace!

            Selam tes,

            Good to know, M’kbibar Z’mesluwo Yelen. Adios Z’hawey!

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Tes,

            I have the same problem with peace, he always seems to apply the “negation of negation law”. The is support the mafia regime = opposing the opposition = -(-) = +. Peace is actually contributing to the miseries of our people because he is focusing more on ethiopia’s problems when Ethiopia is actually after the mafias and cannot stand these mafias, for her own interest of course. The regime and their Eri-TV talks about the weyane or Ethiopia day in and day out, peace likes to do the same. As they say “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” does not get through peace’s mind. You cannot do two things simultaneously, first thing is first. Our brothers and sisters are fleeing from the mafias to the so called weyanes land, this is very important lead and helps to understanding the logic behind. To stop the craziness is to deal with the mafias who are set only to cause mass migration, mass arrest and mass murder…………………

        • Ismail AA

          Dear tes and peace,

          One is elated to follow both of you exchanging ideas through civil dialogue. That is what is needed. In fact the reason I am jotting these lines is that what I read do bring both of you to the same page. I mean you could complement one another. I do not really know how old peace is. I presume he could be around the age group of tes.

          We the old pre-independence generation see our spirit gaining vigor when the youth engage in dialogue about what they should do to win back what theirs: the future of their country and nation. I have been encouraging tes to gather his act together and develop a reasonable platform on the current opposition landscape that he could suggest for meaningful debate because I have already seen his broad outlines on the matter. The point that attracted my attention is intention to analyze the current layout of forces that have been crowding the opposition arena and specifying their roles in accordance with their social and professional status or nature.

          That is an ambitious venture which I hope he would have time and patience to do the job. Thus, the point of addressing both of you is to suggest that peace could join tes in this project. May be other brilliant individuals from our youth could also join you.

          Once the job have been done I am sure the Awate forum would be more than happy to help you, and the AT would generously contribute to your effort and sponsor the great debate.

          Regards

    • blink

      Dear Gheteb
      Your beloved dictator can’t be more proud of you, I mean, what are you up to ? Beraki file can’t be told by you , let’s face it , you are trying the impossible. You have been running wild to praise a man ( isaias) a man of dishonesty,disloyal, abusing man. Come on do it in other venues.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Gheteb: I agree with everything you have said but i got to disagree when you ended your post by saying…
      “Those who are involved in the task of historical revisionism, be they Deqi-Wushate or otherwise, the real history of the EPLF could NEVER be easily revised as that very history of the EPLF was witnessed and chronicled by a large number of Eritreans, be they EPLF fighters or non-EPLF fighters. What is more, is the fact that there are oodles of non-Eritreans who have recorded EPLF’s history.”
      Well, Sir, you must agree with me that the Nadew victory was one of major Eritrean historical military victory and the man who led this historical achievement was Mesfin Hagos. yet, not only he never mentioned when we celebrated every years about Nadow distraction but his picture is cut out as he never existed and never contributed. My question is, is there any more historical revisionism and betrayal of this brave soul than other than the Eritrean Government? my point is, why not call it as it happen and call it as is than cutting corners to make our point? I am all out EPLF and their achievements but not by bending the truth.

    • tes

      Selam Gheteb and Nitricc,

      While Gheteb is a liar and PFDJ, Nitricc is a seasoned truth bounded PFDJ. This is at least their big difference. Here is their difference:

      Gheteb wrote:

      Those who are involved in the task of historical revisionism, be they Deqi-Wushate or otherwise, the real history of the EPLF could NEVER be easily revised as that very history of the EPLF was witnessed and chronicled by a large number of Eritreans, be they EPLF fighters or non-EPLF fighters. What is more, is the fact that there are oodles of non-Eritreans who have recorded EPLF’s history.”

      Nitricc responded in his rare and seasoned honest human nature,

      Well, Sir, you must agree with me that the Nadew victory was one of major Eritrean historical military victory and the man who led this historical achievement was Mesfin Hagos. yet, not only he never mentioned when we celebrated every years about Nadow distraction but his picture is cut out as he never existed and never contributed. My question is, is there any more historical revisionism and betrayal of this brave soul than other than the Eritrean Government? my point is, why not call it as it happen and call it as is than cutting corners to make our point? I am all out EPLF and their achievements but not by bending the truth.

      We can see then how these two hardliners are divided on telling facts.

      tes

    • MS

      Hello Ghehteb
      Nice try. You see how you decelerated to a chugging halt?
      Stages of Ghehteb’s deceleration:
      Stage one: Armed with youtube clips, chitchats of Enda HishuKshuK, wrapped in archaic Shakespearean-English vacubulary, fueled by his love for the despot menacing Eritrea, Ghehteb (aka the megaphone of PFDJ, albeit a defective one) sets off to ravage a quiet community that was mourning the passing of its beloved member. He is in his highest in the ego curve.
      Stage two: use of overwhelming force
      – Bulldoze and bully anyone who confronts him with facts. Repeat “I know it all; I was there….zeraf” with some harmonic chorus, belittle, defame, put down forum members who challenged him.
      – Use the Interpersonal Ballistic Archaic Expressions Missiles (IPBAEM) discriminately, stir up dust (he saw once in the cattle market of Keren two bulls stirring up dust in order to scare the other (A bull’s way of saying Zeraf, I guess); he also heard that his idol (IA/Nsu) use this tactic in order to subdue and control leaders suspected of showing signs of confidence and assertiveness. There is also the rumor that Nsu loves to headbutt his perceived opponents (not that he is brave to face them on one-on-one basis but because he has an army of security behind him, anyway, that’s Nsu’s MO: sending off flares of rumors that belittle, accuse, degrade those he had calculated would be future contestants to his chair; and yes, headbutting them in front of their friends is a tested way of humiliating them…a lesson that everyone would take note of….Ghehteb knew all these. That’s why BeheY sent chills down Ghehteb’s spine when BerheY joked that he would headbutt Ghehteb if he met him. Remember, Ghehteb sent off signals to AT and to the forum asking for help. He was so scared to death. I don’t know if AT tracked BerheY somewhere in a Tim Hortens’ somewhere in Canada or not, but Ghteb was visibly shaken. Now, he wanted to use those tactics on Awatistas…Dorona…corona…AbloK….even when confronted with facts, act as it did not happen…rearrange….regurgitate what he has been filled with through the years by visiting members of Enda HishuKshuK (03), in the quietness of nights and in the privacy of those “chosen ones”, and they are told, you are the REAL DEAL, the HOT BLOOD of Eritreans in your respective hemispheres, and they are told heroic actions that could only be attributed to divine force…”he is the man who singlehandedly liberated Eritrea,” they are told. And they are told that Nsu has “a telepathic ability to know each and every one of you; he reads your thoughts, he tabulates what you guys do to build his image, ajoKum
      Jeganu.”
      Stage Three
      Strategy crumbles, mounting facts bust Ghehteb’s revisionist narration which is always intended to steal Eritreans’ sacrifice in order to preserve and augment his god’s image…his fabricated story of ostracizing the real heroes is busted to dust. And in the background, the Queenplays ” Another One Bites the Dust”. An nice guitar solo by Brian May….
      Stage four: Ghehteb runs for cover
      Cry baby cry….he calls on Awatistas to have mercy on him, “Watch I’m called Megaphone, have you noted that?” The bewildered forum looks at Ghehteb with disgust. Here he was defaming and tarnishing the character of a man who had done his share in the liberation of Eritrea, held incommunicado for 16 years for a simple request that the people of Eritrea should have a say in their future, a man who had played a pivotal role in building EPLF and EPLA, I mean here he was mocking and bullying decent forum members, and suddenly, MEGAPHONE became a stinging bite…Sure he could be so sensitive and insecure…of himself….that’s fine. However, the maxim is that if you are afraid of a pebble thrown to you, don’t role a bolder to others. I could not believe that megaphone became so important to him than trashing public figures that most Eritreans see as heroes.
      Conclusion: BeraKi G/Selasie turned Ghehteb from a roaring flood to a slow and drying up stream. From “Iknow-it-all” Gheteb has finally been reduced “quoting from NY Times, and Dan Connel. I can tell you Gheteb, Dan Connel is more knowledgeable than you when it comes to narrating the events of that era.
      Here are some observations: grandiosity, callous treatment of others; unemotional to the suffering and mourning of his community member, extreme desire to be noted as the alpha-omega of knowledge pertaining to EPLF; extremely sensitive to criticisms directed to him or to his idol…disruptive, bullying, badmouthing….arrogant….
      Dear Ghetb you may want to add all the above in the record, and don’t forget to use a permanent RED MARKER.
      Lastt but not least, have you answered SGJ’s polite and compassionate questions? I hope you answer them because the military man he is, he is letting an escape route for you.
      That has been today’s Star Coffee Edition.

    • Selamat Gheteb,

      The Olyesesky, Kirk defense. BITS AND BYTES.

      tSAtSE

  • Hayat Adem

    Dearest and Best Awatista Duos: Mahamuday and Tes,
    Don’t worry, I will always make the shameless pfdjites hear what they need to hear. We will continue exposing them inside out. They are people who must be confronted all the time with all what we have and in the best we can. They are the chaff of our society who don’t respect truth, nor moral values, nor culture, nor elders, nor the young, nor the alive, nor the dead. We will be differentiating and reproccessing them as much we can and dumping the hopless ones to the bottomless garbage can of history. This is part of an effort of minimizing the number of those to be dumped.
    Here is the deal with Gheteb. Every time he comes with his nonsense, he has been recieving more sense in a hit back. So far so good. He has helped us hit his IA and Pfdj even harder. Beleive me, Gheteb got nothing out of all this.
    But I am thinking of something else. IA and Pfdj are a dead horse as ideas. They are there only as a brute force, as a physical reality. There is nothing left to reason with them. So, the discourse has to shift to the tune of discussing the best ways of meeting the future without Pfdj. We should develop forward looking wisdoms. We should habitualize disciplined thinking. Each of us should try hard to come up with solutions or inputs for solutions, like what Yohannes is doing. Gheteb is no more useful for such kind of discourse. When we were thinking of our teen sis turning adult in prison, he thinks of Adulis and Aksum. When we remember our recently departed sister Mihret, he speaks about Keren of 77. Only in that sense, he has become a high maintenance member for me. To repeat myself, Pfdj as an idea is finished. Pfdj as a physical force can only be dealt with through the kinds of powerful tools and ideas such as those offered by Yohannes and others. Gheteb is a spent material. I will not allow him to breath through me.
    Hayat

  • Gud

    Selamat the good people of this blessed forum!!

    Kemey, kemey? Any body missed me? I missed you too tes, nice welcome 🙂

    Let us start by listing some of the insults and name calling thrown at my brother Gheteb here, with no bounds:

    MS:

    -“MEGAPHONE”

    Amanuel H
    “weirdo individual”

    Aron

    “…self hating low feeling tembenay tewelje ”

    Tes

    – “old-blooded PFDJ worshiper”

    Many and many more

    • Aron

      Hi Gud,
      Maybe you should try to list the reputations your brother gheteb is destroying when they couldn’t defend themselves because his boss put them in dungeons and threw the key away. It was one thing when he was trying to destroy the habesha identity by splitting adullis from the habesha / Axum kingdom in his attempt to change the established history. Almost everyone left him alone in all that gibberish but
      now he won’t even leave alone mihret be eulogized properly bringing up 70s absolute non issues full of innuendos, gossips and what have you. Sorry to disappoint you but he is self hating low life. The reason why I think that is, he has a good command of more than one language other than his native Tigrinya. If the man could understand the southern drawls of America, the British accent and all why not the southern drawl of Tigrinya. Self hating.

    • Mez

      Dear Gud,

      If you have in mind the Tembens South of the Mereb, they are busy in doing things for themselves, more so now than never before in the history of the region.

      Look the source of the trouble in your own yard, where a lot of misconception and wrong assumptions are used as a foundation for current/ future planning; fix thoses before they would further wreck your house.
      Thanks

      Thanks.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Selam Gud,

      It is great to read you and I am laughing my heads off about the “QUEEN”. It is said in this Forum that the “QUEEN” sounds Ethiopian to Ethiopians. They know each other, don’t they?. And, just a couple of days ago a Weyanay professor from CUNY Lehman College has addressed the “Queen” as, get this, “Mr. Hayat”. Dr. Glawdiwos knows and can identify his own Tigrayan males.

      What we have here with this character who sports the nick Hayat Adem is nothing short than a hilarious comedy played live in this Forum and has been a source of many fits of belly laughs on my part.

  • Gud

    Hi MS,

    What’s up?

    I have a question for you. You stated you know Mihret and Berak very well, so that makes you the right person to ask.

    But, before I shoot the question, I would like to tell you why I am asking it this way (Lest you will go emotional on me, and do your fake outrage :), and start labeling people insensitive or something. just kidding)

    You and your group (Your new love, that is 🙂 I hear your are a changed man now) are insinuating Mihret suffered a lot and probably committed suicide because of the incarceration of her beloved husband, Tegadalay Beraki, That would imply of course there was a happy family disrupted and loving couple separated. Correct?

    Now may question (I am really puzzled here, and wanted clarification because I don’t want to get it wrong). I know Beraki’s kids. Actually I know one very well. BUT, Mihret is not his mother. So help me out here, how many times was Beraki married? if Mihret was not the only one, why aren’t you considering the suffering of the other one (If any). I mean, we are saying his incarceration has severe effect enough to drive a loved one to suicide, right.

    • tes

      Selam Gud,

      Before MS comes with his comment, I will be willing to interject. On friendship, yah, we are in a new love. Let the PFDJites get mad with it. Divided, you danse, united you cry. After almost 3 years, I and many on the extreme hate side of PFDJ found a common ground with Mahmud Saleh. And know this, our previous difference was not in our collective history but on the strategy to defeat PFDJ. Believe it or not, we are now more united.

      To the point:

      Aha, and now you came with new tactic. First, MiHret has her own suffering. To help you, I gave a list of four points and here they are again:

      1. Here husband is in prison since 2001. This can be by itself the primary cause of committing suicide.
      2. Her son is in the military, aka slavery, and she sees anguish in her son everytime he comes home.
      3. She fought for liberation and freedom. And the freedom she fought for is no where.
      4. She has witnessed Eritreans living in miser. As a good hearted freedom fighter she can not live with it.

      This being what is said, what we are saying is “MiHret’s death has so many things to do with her own professional works. UNESCO thing is one.

      On the other issue:

      Do not try to say that MiHret and Beraki were not in love. Do not try to say that Beraki had another affair. This is typical PFDJ assasination.

      Do you know how DIA was using in his tactic to assasinate freedom fighters who tried to challange him? he accuses them on sex scandal and then those innocent freedom fighters follow the accusation. At the end, the accused vanished without no one to ask about.

      Rude PFDJ. Gosh!

      tes

    • Gud

      Dear Dic.., oops, by bad, I mean Dear Moderator :

      I apologize for calling this website “God Forsaken” I realize now I don’t have a right here, only privileges which can easily be granted or taken at the discretion of the moderator. “you giveth and you taketh away” says Abi 🙂

      Would you please replace the bad word “God forsaken website” in my previous 3 comments by “Blessed website, & lovely lovely union of the people of Ethio-Eritrea ” and re-post it?

      PS
      And can i get the privilege now to kindly reply to our Tes here. Trust me, I will treat him like a normal thinking human, can I, can I?

      • Gud

        Moda,

        Cool, whatever you say boss. So what is next here ? Are you going to re post my edited comment, or am I supposed to comment a new one, or shall I wait for you to tell me what to write ? How about we replace the “God forsaken website” by “God blessed website” ? Are we good?

  • First allow me to apologize for stating that you have “peddled a lie” when describing or telling the story of your experiences with Tegadalay Berakhi, who has a Political Prisoner of Concience for Sixteen Years and Counting. You are right Gheteb, I cannot disprove your account of your experiences of Teg Berakhi immediately after the liberation of Keren in 1977 and in Zagir in 1978. On a second thought, I am now more prone to believe your narrative in it’s entirety.

    After weighing it against the mounds of data (All The Tonowanda, Chictowaga, Hamburg, Niagra, Baily, Main etc FILES) which I compiled for nearly Six years, sitting on my square table work station in the lobby lounge right outside The Registrars-RECORDS AND REGISTRATIONS. Every single day, for no less than Six to Eight Hours, spending Three to Four Dollars on THIRTY FIVE CENTS per miniature cup vending machine coffee and chain smoking a whole pack of Marlboro Lights.

  • MS

    Selam, Emma, BerheY, Hayat, IsmailAA and the rest
    Thanks all for your feedbacks. There things one can afford ignoring and there are things one can’t ignore. I understand Gehteb is here to do his dirty thing. I think it would be a mistake to ignore him when he has chosen to deliberately sully the name of victims of his regime. In Tigrigna we call it “Kate mot” or dying twice. That’s true. The victims, in this case, BeraKi G.Sellasie, is subjected to dying twice. First IA condemned BeraKi to waste in the dungeons without according him a minimal due process. Secondly, this character called Ghehteb is menacing and butchering BeraKi in front of our eyes, in broad day light. And we know butchering BeraKi is also butchering the idea that BeraKi stood for, which is asking for accountability (yes, that is what BeraKi is wasting for). It goes that by butchering the ideals that BeraKi stood for, he is also butchering the idea and ideals that everyone of us is standing for. Therefore, by attacking BeraKi, Ghehteb is not so much interested in a man whose whereabouts is not known, a man who is languishing in the hellish dungeons of PFDJ, but he is more interested in attacking the ideals that each of us stand for: the call for accountability, the call of for the end of impunity, the call to end the reign of a brutal regime that is designed to catering to the interests and whims of one man, a regime that has reversed Eritrea’s fortunes.
    Your concerns that we are wasting time on defending obvious records is valid. I get it. But please understand the following:
    I’m doing it consciously. Those who want to salvage the discussions can do it by stirring the discussion away to a more desirable direction while tes, I and whoever is willing to whether Ghehteb’s onslaught can deal with him on our terms. The key is here: ON OUR TERMS. Ghehteb s not controlling the conversation. The more he comes out with outrageous concoctions the more his IA and its regime will be exposed while the roles of MeHret and BeraKi will be known, discussed, and remembered. Let him do his thing, I’m willing to hold onto my position at the risk of becoming redundant. Ghehteb loves to remind us that the use of the word me ran (attrition or Harb al’estnzaf) in EPLF parlance was an IA invention. You the time we lost in that debate. We were doing it because we wanted to preserve the role of all those heroes who defended Eritrea’s cause from all walks of life and from all political stripes. He wanted to apportion the lions share to his lion, while we argued the lion’s share belonged to the vast mass that sacrificed in defending Nakfa and Eritrea’s cause. Now, I’m in a mode of attrition. Tes is right to remind us that we should never let few to kill the victims twice. Let Enda HishuKshuK use their MEGAPHONE in their saber-rattling and irritating campaigns; we will use sober arguments. Saleh Younis walked and LITERALLY babied him on how to behave in different social setting, he would not have a fraction of it. Look how he tried to bully the forumers, Abraham, MS, BerheY and even SAAY, etc. We should not let that. My tactic is to inflict a maximum danmage to the ideals he represent while illustrating the lives and contributions of the victims he trying to kill twice.
    Therefore, with all do you respect, those who want to stir the forum to desirable direction do so while those who are willing to defend the positions do so.
    (Will be continued depending on the next move)
    Regards.

    • iSem

      Hi MS:
      This is masterpiece!
      And I only want to add this:
      Gheteb is fond of the word “haunt”, this will come to haunt you he warned Test and others. I am sure that his comments especially on Naqfa and on Berakhi and Mihret will come to haunt him. We know the person behind Gheteb and since there is time for everything, so there is time bulling, there is time for haunting, the time will come when his words will haunt thim

    • tes

      Selam MS,

      Gheteb represents PFDJ ideology not him as a person. As you said it eloquently what we need is to destroy his ideals. We can not ignore him. Ignoring him means ignoring PFDJ. We need to fight back without getting tired.

      Berhe Y. came with a nice report. 90 comments within 11 days is too much. But we have also more than enough energy to damage his ideology. I hope Berhe y., Hayat Adem, Emma and Ismail AA will understand and change their thoughts on Gheteb.

      Truth and humanity will defeat Gheteb. No matter how he tries to bomb Awate University we have a shield to come with a victory.

      Justice for is a noble thing that I learned in this great University. Beraki needs our defense. Mihret needs our defense. And Mahmud, you have raw facts, and we stand for justice. Together we will defeat these cowards.

      tes

    • Ismail AA

      Dear MS and tes,

      When I, and some in this forum, opined that an individual or two should not be allowed to deliberately swamp the forum by turning a relevant topic to side issue, it absolutely didn’t mean those who are not ashamed to peddle outrages should be left to get away with what they write or say. In fact, their ideas should be mercilessly shredded apart.

      But what we have been witnessing in the context of the AT eulogy to the late Mehret did not qualify to ideas worthy of challenges. They were allegations hypnotized mind produced in sheer attempt to defend his hero and his system. There wasn’t a single idea with modicum of originality that deserved challenge and obliteration. Individuals who succumb to zealotry and worship of heroes cannot be susceptive to anything sensible and logical discourse as long as they believe they discharge of their obligation defended their hero; they just get comfortable from what they do.

      Regards

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Berhe,

    No one exactly know the cause of death of Mihret. But don’t be surprised, that often sucide are committed by highly edicated people. It sound weird but it is fact. Check statistics.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Aman,

      Unless a thrill investigation is done, we can’t conclude “no body knows exactly why”. It’s not that I am disputing “highly educated people do not commit sucide”. I am questioning the circumstances and reason and the official statement given.

      Do remember the ERITREAN business guy who the PFDJ throw in Arbe Rebue to fake his death after he was killed by Isayas security group?

      I hope Eritreans get out of the “shame/fear” factor the pfdj put us in defence mode to suit him and speak publicly what happened.

      I just don’t think this “Hbebe”, she was a hero and let her rest in peace and forget about her. That’s exactly what PFDJ wants us to do.

      Even if she committed sucide willingly, there is no shame. Who wouldn’t lose his mind when someone you love is buried alive for such long time without seeing a day of light and hope.

      I pray that those who love her and those who know the circumstances to speak out and let the world know what happened to her.

      Berhe

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Berhe,

        It is by no means, am justifying the rumors to the cause of her death.But I am just stating the fact that sucide is taken by highly educated than by bystanders. It is a well documented.

    • tes

      Selam Amanuel,

      I think you are trying to be a prpfessional doctor here. We know yes statistics says so. But we also have a mind to link the anecdotes that force her to end in that way.

      Disappointing to read this line coming from you.

      tes

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Tesfat,

        Just read my second response to haw Berhe. If you are not satisfaied with that, sorry I can’t be more clear than that.

        Regards

  • Dis Donc

    Dear MS, Aman and to those who know her

    I do not know her and know very little about her. In fact, with what little time I have, the more I read awate the more I find myself estranged with most views here. Anyway, reading few back-and-fore I see most of you are disheartened. We had an unfortunate war and many died and maimed. Jack Brel sings very telling music about the death of family and friends in wars; wanted or otherwise.
    Bien sûr il y a les guerres d’Irland (Erytreé)
    Et les peuplades sans musique
    Bien sûr tout ce manque de tendres
    Il n’y a plus d’Amérique
    Bien sûr l’argent n’a pas d’odeur
    Mais pas d’odeur me monte au nez
    Bien sûr on marche sur les fleurs
    Mais voir un ami pleurer!

    Resumen: today being weekday, links are not allowed. If anyone wants to listen to the full music just type Brel’s Voir Un Ami Pleurer.

    • Haile S.

      Cher Dis Donc,
      Thank you for the lyrics. Your choice of Brel’s poetique song and Gheladewos Araya’s Eulogy of his high schoolmate reminded me of a song, a time and place that I think fits to an additional homage that Mihret deserves. The lyric belong to be pronounced by those who knew her very well, her family and her colleagues the vibrant QEHAS high schoolmates like Ghelawdewos Araya. I went to that high school (my Discus image) some years after her, but the song I am talking about and its fragrance were in Asmara’s air all those years thanks to the American Forces Radio in Asmara. I am sure if you open the radio in those years, you will certainly hears the unforgettable Terry Jacks unique voices several times a day, and I bet Mihret knew about or sung it. Jacques Brel wrote and sung it, Terry Jacks adapted and internationized it. Here is part of the lyrics of ‘Seasons in The Sun’ Terry’s adaptation of Brel’s original ‘Le Moribind’. Please remember Mehret and all our brothers and sisters of our respective generation and enjoy the music by typing the English and French titles on you-tube or other sources.

      Goodbye to you my trusted friend
      We’ve known each other since we were nine or ten
      Together we’ve climbed hills and trees
      Learned of love and ABC’s
      Skinned our hearts and skinned our knees
      Goodbye my friend it’s hard to die
      When all the birds are singing in the sky
      Now that spring is in the air
      Pretty girls are everywhere
      Think of me and I’ll be there

      We had joy, we had fun
      We had seasons in the sun
      But the hills that we climbed
      Were just seasons out of time
      …..

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Haile,
        After thanking you for the info I will straight to the moribund issue at hand. I remind myself the strange time that we live-in. After sacrifycing so much we not only had been robbed of our deserved freedom to choose to be what we want but also told to live in dungeons of agony; both literally as well as physically in the doldrums of shackles…. I hope the day will come when I frequent this site more often.

      • sara

        Dear Haile,
        if you permit let me say one two… about your above commentary… that is you seem to love your old school and that was close to an american base and the rest you know what… now from what
        i heard from elders of those days that school had the least successful students going to collage,
        and they say the one which was on the outskirts of Asmara going to keren.. dont remember the name had very successful students going to college attaining even best grades. in-fact most
        of those who have made big names in politics and academia went to this school not the one in the city. i dont know if this clicks on you and many so to share with us about this and the other famous schools in asmara and those who went there and became public figures.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Sara,

          I had heard similar story from someone who was in the same class as IA and Haile DurE and the rest. The school you are referring to is called Luel Meconnen.

          The story goes like this as for him, most of the best students who score high ((in grade 8 exam before going to high school)use to go KeHaS (Kedemawi Haile Slassie) school. Then one year the teacher or the directs or of Luel Mekonnen high school complained to the ministry and he asked, why he doesn’t get the best students and it’s time that he should get that year. So it happened that year, he got the best students from Eritrea (I think three classes all together) and ended up in the same high school.

          It’s so happen that all those leaders in ELF and EPLF happen to be in that same year…the story goes..people like:

          Woldesus Ammar
          Haile Wolde Tnsae (Dure)
          Isayas Afeworki
          Abdurahman Mehri
          Arefaine (current agriculture minister)
          Woldedawit Temesgen
          Seyoum O Michael (Harestay)
          Mussie Tesfamichael
          Michael Ghaber
          Ruesom (current ministry of education)
          Abdallah Hassan
          Saeed Saleh (??)

          The list is far from complete and I am sure iSem, SGJ, saay, Ismael AA and others will fill in..

          Most of these names I got from an article written by Woldesus Ammar “Bravo Deru’e Agena’e Seyoum”.

          Berhe

          • sara

            Dear Berhe
            thanks for sharing this info, but i also want to emphasize the school in the city has this flare that the student were not as serious as the one out side the city that you will see many students skipping classes you will see them strolling in the streets during school hours .
            they say also because of the special color (red shirt and navy blue dress) of their uniforms it was evident to many this are from the school in the city.
            i think its similar to what you have in the inner city schools and suburban schools in many
            us cities.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear sara,

            KeHaS, as far as I know it is one of the prestigious high school, and it’s location is probably one of the best well to do neighborhoods in the city. Nothing like inner city in the US. It was considered one of the best high school, until the Derg nationalized in the 80s all the private schools (Camboni, Santa Ana, Petego) which they started to rival the school. In the 80s Luel Meconnen was not considered a top school, actually most students who were going to art programs (those who scored low in the exam, considered low standard compared to Science) ended up there.

            I think people like Dr. Ghelawdewos who attended the high school may have more about the school. But based on the age of Mihret (65), which I am guessing Dr. Ghelawdewos is of the same age, they are much younger than those of IA generations (5 to 7 years) and the school produced a lot of smart students.

            Berhe

          • sara

            Dear Berhe,
            prestigious school because of its academic achievement of the students or because it was inside the city and the building was cosy comparing to the one outside the city. on the other side you also said most of those who went to lead our revolution have attended the other school , that means this prestigious school has minimum contribution towards our cause.
            can we say most of those who went to this school were privileged because of their family connection or loyalty to the then governing authority of Ethiopia….. HSI,Dergi etc

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Sara,

            May be i wasn’t clear. What I said was, in one year the teacher / director of Luel Mekonnen (an American) asked the ministry to send him students who score top in the grade 8 exam. And he got 3 class of students (from all over Eritrea) to attend that school.

            So where the school was located is not immaterial, because I am sure people like IA who were privileged as well attended the same school.

            Why did this group of students end up being leaders in the revolutions? There may be a lot of reason, but I think timing is the big factor in my opinion. If we base based on the IA age (born 1946) these class of students were in high school around 1959 / 1960 which was at the height of the Eritrean movement against the annexation and dismantling of the federation.

            As to if they were privileged or connected to the Ethiopian government, it’s hard to say. In Eritrea as far as I know, people are not segregated to go to school based on where they live. You can live in Akraya and attend KHS or you can live in May Temenay (close to Luel Mekonnen) and attend Geza Kenisha.

            For example Mihret Iyob (daughter of Dr. Iyob) who probably was as privilaged as one can get at that time, and attended KHS but she also join Ghedli (including Hibret Berhe). So I don’t think we can draw any line by who joined or not..

            Keren had fine schools where most of the leaders also orginated. Mendefera had a fine high school (st. George) where a lot of Eritreans who went to higher education went to that school.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe & Sara,

            Until up to 1963, there were only two high schools in Eritrea – Kehas and Luel Mekonen. They were taking students from all Junior highs in Eritrea (what we use to call them at that time as middle schools), screened through the general examinations, conducted by the department of education of Eritrea. After 1963 they opned four additional high schools, in Dekemhare, Mendefera, Keren, and Massawa. As the record shows, Luel Mekonen was passing more students in the matriculation than the others. So, I do not think the priveleged students were attending Luel Mekonon, rather the school was taking students with high scores in the general examination, and hence more success in passing the matriculation.

            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Amanuel, Haile and all
            What you are saying is the All Time Great King of Kings HaileSelassie was instrumental in Expanding Education in Eritrea.
            Keep discussing. I will help summarizing for me.
            While you are still in Asmara, please educate me on Expo Asmara 1967.
            Thanks

          • tes

            Selam Abi,

            Don’t twist things. Secondary school upto 12th grade was introduced during the british administration and expanded during the Federation Era. Keren secondary school for example was built in 1954. And I did my technical study in a vocation school built by USA under a project called “Point 4” in 1954 as a favoring investement during their radio Marinayo and Kagnew station establishement period.

            In general, between 1950-1960 Eritrea had better access to education. What happened in 1962 has produced student reaction. That of Lu’ul Mokenen, now Asmara Comprehensive Secondary school is an ideal example.

            What HS did was changing names to Ethiopian emperors and war-lords.

            tes

          • Haile S.

            Hi Tes,
            I agree with your response to Ras Abi. HHI was the Sun king, the Louis XIV version of Ethiopia. Anything existing within his country’s boundary and under the Sun was considered his creation. And here you go our Ras Abi is not leaving us any capacity of our own. ለ Ras ሲቆርሱ ኣያሳንሱ!

          • Abi

            Hi Gashe
            ከ Ras በላይ ንፋስ

          • Abi

            Hawuna Tes
            I’m not twisting things here. I’m straightening them out.
            This is what Ato Amanuel said ,”After 1963 they opened four additional high schools in Dekemehare, Mendefera, Keren and Massawa.”
            Prof Tes , are you challenging Ato Amanuel? Is he twisting facts to appreciate those achievements?
            I think Ato Amanuel needs your help.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hello Abi, Emma and Tes,
            Keren had a high school before HIM came. In 1968 they added six class rooms and two years later a few more classes and it became a comprehensive secondary school–to serve all of Westernnorth of Asmara to Karora, West of Asmara up to Arbataasher on the Sudanese border, and all of Gash Barka–Half the country depended on one secondary school. Haile Sellassie baptized it: yehe tmhrt bet, Atzie Dawit blen seyemenewal. It’s not something to boast about, particularly from my perspective. If things continued the way they were, Abi would have been its director 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            ያለውን የቸረ ንፉግ አይባልም

            ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ ነፍሳቸውን በገነት ያቆይልንና አቅማቸው የፈቀደውን ያህል ደከመኝ ሰለቸኝ ሳይሉ ለሚወዳቸውና ለሚወዱት የኤርትራ ህዝብ ደክመዋል::
            If things continued the way the Great King planned, Eritreans and Eritrea would have been in a better situation.
            If,….

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,
            .
            In 1968 the percentage of Eritrean students at Haile Selassie I University was higher than the Oromos, Amharas or Tigray students. If anyone had the figures, it would be appreciated. Taferi Makonen High school, the school I attended, used to be a boarding school for a large contingent of Eritrean students. However old, any testimonial from those students would also be appreciated.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • blink

            Dear k.m
            The only plausible reason could be that the short evil man (hailessilasie) vision ,to introduce the British dream of killing Eritrea. Very few people in Ethiopia know this act , so I don’t blame you.

          • iSem

            Hi Abi and Kim:
            Kim, you maybe right on the stats and this could be due to two reason, it could be local and second some affirmative action by the King to appease the Kebessa. Eri as part of Ethiopia has also its own narrative, the Italian colonization for almost 100 years and Eri were more technically inclined than the other part of Ethiopia and that would explain the overwhelming number of them in Bahri Dar and engineering school, many were coming from the technicals school in Asmara, and NO, HS did not create it, USA created it.
            This is normal, for example a province in Canada Quebec has more per capita of college educated until a decade ago.
            And since Eri was part of Ethiopia, this is not big deal, the Ghedli did not start because some privileged Eritreans were not allowed to attend college or university in the Union, the Eri identity was been formed, and if HS had brains, at that state it was malleable:-)
            Abi, no Eritreans would be better off, because HS was playing his divisive, low land highland, christian Moslem card. Maybe those who obeyed him, many christians would be better off. But the entire nation of Eri would not be, rem he was burning villages and mass killing people
            Still some religion and regions in Eri did better than the rest, even when war was raging. Some segments would always do better, there is always a nitche, one of the issues of ghedli was also transforming the feudal system,I do not believe it succeeded, and HS crooked plans did not work, that is why Aman Andom and Dergi came, by the way Aman Andom spoke flawless Arabic. Let alone Eri, his plans were brutalizing Ethiopians, the Tigray region was devastated, they became second class citizens in their won country.
            HS has no plans except to doll birr to those who bowed the most when he was passing by. And this is a shame and regression for a country that started nation state form 500 years before Europe according Prof Tekeste Negah

          • Selam iSem,

            The difference between ethiopians and eritreans is that, fortunately, except the few elites who were part and parcel of the HS and Dergue governments, most ethiopians (Tigrayans included, I believe) have moved beyond the painful experiences they had lived under these governments. One may say that the pain was not of the same level with that of eritreans, nevertheless, it was not little. This has freed ethiopians, and today they are able to work and hope for the future.
            Most probably, eritrean elites will continue to use the ethiopian mantra twenty five years hence, forgetful of their own HSs and Dergs, and doing nothing about them. The past helps us to draw our lessons to be able to move forward, and not to live in them forever.

          • iSem

            Hi Horizon;
            No, that is not correct. The Eri intelectuals could use whatever they want, but the last war and PFDJ’s blunders and cruelty have englightened Eritreans. I am mentioning these crimes because it comes up as a matter of history when we debate and when some want to paint the brutal king, whose legacy is killings, famine and backwards as a messenger of God, and as one of the pivotal reasons the Ghedli started and succeeded
            There will always be some people intellectuals or non-intellectuals who will use the past for their own interest, that is why we need the rule of law, free press, institutions, independents think tanks to expose facts so the people can live life of full enlightment, devoid of bigory, love of truth, as at the end of the day these are the vurtues that will set us free from the shackles of the crooks, who in our names ahve waged wars and committed crimes
            We see, even with all the things the leaders made us do to each other in the last war and the burning of villages, the bombing of village and animals by HS the deproting each other etc, the people have not cleansed eachother like in Darfur and Rwanda. I know it is very low parameter , but hey it is Africa. so there is still hope, but the hope can only blossom when Truth and Reconcilliation collaborate

          • Abi

            Hi Mr Kim
            Appreciation from Eritreans? Really? Are you out of your mind? The older generation never appreciated the colleges and universities that was available for them. The self eating collective madness was based on lies. During the derg times , derg used to give more opportunities to Eritrean youth to join the available colleges and universities while fighting their fathers.
            I hope the new generation is more appreciative of the refugee camps. It is just a hope.
            You see how Gheteb belittled the Keren liberators instead of thanking them? Multiply that by millions.
            “የእናት ጡት ነካሽ” ይላል ያገሬ ሰው
            Now I know why Eyobe quit awate U. He is tired of teaching Eritreans their history. They don’t get it.

            May 24 is fast approaching! Any plans for Independence Day?
            FREE AT LAST!!!!

          • saay7

            Hey Abi:

            Let’s make a wish list of all the artists and songs we are inviting for May 24: Eritreas and Ethiopias Independence Party. Then because you and I have triple citizenship ( Eritrean Ethiopian and American) we should have, thanksgiving style, “I am grateful for…” statements.

            Here’s one for you free of charge (you know I like you): “I am grateful to Eritreans for teaching me how to wage a protracted struggle for my rights. Before them, all my history taught me is you fight for a few weeks or a few months. These guys fight for decades and they taught my Ethiopian org, TPLF, how to do it.”

            There are others but we will start with that.

            By the way, you are Eritrean by marriage and I am Ethiopian by birth (there was no Eritrea when I was born.). Cheers to multiple nationality!

            saay

            * I am also Canadian by marriage but I am saving that for World War III.

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            You know I love you more. Whatever you say I agree.
            How about this
            I’m grateful Eritreans taught me it is always futile to base your struggle on hate ,lie and ego. There is no remedy for affluenza. It will crumble in your face. It doesn’t matter how long the madness lasted. It didn’t bring calmness.
            “የእንቧይ ካብ ” ይላል ያገሬ አስተዋይ
            Thanks for the life long lesson. I mean yeqenyeley.
            Now to the party!!!
            What are you serving? I’m coming with or without invitation.

          • saay7

            Hey Abi:

            Was the TPLFs 17-year long struggle (1974-1991) also based on hate? Careful, Fanti is reading you.

            The post-independent Eritrea is not doing well not because our revolution was based on hate but because revolutionary leaders do not make for great statesmen. We thought we would be the exception (because ours happened 20-30 years after the rest of Africa and we presumably had learned their lesson): it turns out the only one who was taking notes was the dictator and that was how to stay in power for life.

            So of necessity some of our Divorce Party songs will be bittersweet.

            saay

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abi; sometimes i get confused with elements that you are suffering from. There days after i read your post and i say to my self; this is absolute ignorance and there are days that i will say this is absolute arrogance and there are days you combined the two deadly elements and lose any shred of decency. It is true that your dead good for nothing king gave some educational opportunity to some opportunistic and elite Eritreans, the likes of Dr. Bereket to name as an example and it is true but you wanted Eritreans to appreciate you for massacring mercilessly? you want the Eritreans to appreciate you for running over their children with tanks alive? DO you really want Eritreans to appreciate you when their village burned to ashes while their women, children and the old gunned down in the thousands? I mean, how does your mind work? I know you are confusing the real Eritreans with pretenders and the one feeding your ego and inflate your ignorance and arrogance to the highest degree; but make no mistake, Eritreansim is for real and here to stay. we may respect you as a people but we will never appreciate you, Never!
            Long live May 24, for ever.

          • Abi

            Hi General Nitricc
            Please accept my up vote . Long live May 24!!!!! I’m with you ,General!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,
            .
            Did you say opportunistic Dr. Bereket, I almost forgot about him. That was definitely the fault of His Imperial Majesty’s fault. I hate to say it but you are absolutely right. Not only educated him with the Gojame farmer’s penny but made him the Lawyer for all Gojames to boot. I think a review of this record in heaven is in order.
            I knew it Nittricc, sometimes you come up with a positive point by accident.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Hayat Adem

            IN DEFENSE OF DR BEREKET
            Kim and Abi,
            You know how I love you guys. Yes, I know… just in case you forgot:)
            Don’t also forget that there were also bad things happenning to Eritreans under Janihoy as YG would address him. And much worse things happened during the Derg. I know much worse than even the two are happenning now. But still it won’t be a fair comparison. Janhoy could have done it better by doing more of the education, less of the securitization, less of the rushed ethiopianization and more of the freedom. Mengistu could have done it better if he had been washed away by some kind of miscarriage before he was born. I always wish if Isayass was not even concieved at all. He is not worthy of the price of the egg and the sperm that created him. I apologize for my langauge to his parents.
            Now, compare what Janhoy chose to do and what he could have done. Please, don’t compare him with Isayass. Even if Isayass had been just slighly better than Janihoy and short of the Eritrean ideals that Eritreans were demanding and struggling for, Isayas’ governance would still be a failure by the eyes of Eritreans. But now, it is not about him failing us. He is bulldozing us.
            One more silly reminder, Don’t forget Prf Bereket has left Pfdj and became an independent thinker, in case you haven’t heard guys:) He is revisiting and reflecting on some of the journeys he made. Few years back, you must have heard him expressing his wish of seeing the reunion of the two countries in his life time. That is very positive. He has come a long way to that point and we should celebrate him for that, certainly not admonish him. A positive change must always be celebrated, right? It shouldn’t be otherwise just because it is coming from Prof Bereket. Seriously, I’m so observant of positive changes and I cherish and embrace them the moment they pop up, not a day later. If a smoker is trying to quit, I give her a credit. If she gives herself a day or two days break, I do celebrate that as well- a small thing but something positve nonetheless. I shouldn’t be clouded by history or by the relapses. Efforts must mean something better than non-efforts.
            And motives are important. The motives Prf Berket may have then and now been so different in some ways but something remsined condtant. If he was doing good then at personal level (power,money, comfort), he must have motivated by a non-personal and higher purpose to join the struggle. He didn’t do it for selfish gains because he had better and more of those where he was as a Janihoy gvt official. You really can’t call that treason or ungratefulness, can you?. You may call it bad judgement depending on how you view it from here and now or even from there and then. But even if it may have been a mistake depending on one’s perispectives, it shows a character, sacrificng personal comfort for what he thought was a higher purpose. And remember what struggling for your people, sacrificing personal interests, mean in those days.
            He did it again, he left the criminal regime of Isayass not because he thought he would personally profit out of it. It just dawned to him that he was serving a wrong cause and a man and he left it.
            Change is good when it comes with the right reason and realization. He did that. Now compare prf Bereket with the ones that are still serving the regime even after they realized everything went down the hatch into the dark vanity of vanities. For these reasons, the old and bold man must be spared from your criticizms because you should save them for those who deserve them bigly (courtesy of T).
            You remember Derg, right? Someone sent me a soft copy of Mengistu’s book v1. My goodness, the guy still beleives he is waging a bloody revolution. He thinks his vision flame is still burning and alive and Ethiopians sharing and relaying it like the olympic torch of flame.
            Mengistu had always been crazy behavourally but now medically, too. It is in some sense ghetebsque and much more worse. Remeber, how many intellectuals and prominent Ethiopians might have supported him and still remained unapologetic and never repented for what they did. Mengistu shed a lot of blood unforcedly. And he still thinks he has people to listen to what he has to say.
            Prf Bereket is a saint compared to those political vampires and still think a political market on the wait for their Insanity 2.0.. GUYS, we have plenty of evil forces in our hands on noth sides of the ixle.. Lets not waste our gas kon the ones that have ceased to be one of those as soon as they crossed over to ourside. Those kinds of people are our signals of the best hope of a chnaging future. We need to help and pray and work and fight to get more people crossing to our side.
            The reason why I always hope there wil be a better day ahead of us where the politics of today will give way to the bigger truth and the law of nature and the strength of culture when it comes to bringing the two people together in the fraternal solidarity as it should be is because of the positive changes I see in people like Prf Bereket.

          • iSem

            Hayat:
            “IA is not worthy of the price of the egg and the sperm that created him”, epic
            I am sure you read selfish gene by Dawkins: eggs are very expensive and sperm is very cheap and it is the investment that makes women and females to care more than males:-)

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear iSem,

            U r right !

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hayat,
            Brilliantly put. I have a slightly different take on Bereket’s gesture of reunion with Ethiopia, I have talked to him and have seen the videoclip in full, from which some haters cut a mutilated quote and make it look what it is not. I will try to find an article that was published on awate explaining that (Could you help, Saay?) But that was in the context of a pan African perspective, not the type of forced union which costed Eritreans and Ethiopians a lot of blood and lost opportunities.

            I believe that unless Ethiopians realize how insulting it is to the victims of Janhoi when they try to lionize him. Maybe in a hundred years it will be okay, but not now. That and the “qey bahrachin” slogan that the Ethiopian partisan elite raise to agitate the common people, are the major hindrance to mutual understanding. The Red Sea craze has waned, but the lionizing of Janhoi is still alive. It’s is an insult to us. If anyone is genuinely interested in normalization of relations between the two people, It would help if the insulting lionization is stopped. You know how it sounds? It just sounds like some people lionizing Isaias Afwerki, and you have seen it abundantly. Lionizing Janhoi is not different that lionizing Isaias. The two are devil incarnate.

            Thank you for the excellent comment though.

          • saay7

            Selamat SGJ:

            Actually, it wasn’t published at awate.com but awate.com’s Facebook page. When the video first surfaced and the PFDJ and the Ethiopian enemies of Dr. Bereket formed a united front to attack him viciously, this is what I wrote and wrote again in 2015, and am writing now in 2017, and will probably write in 2019 (it is every odd year):

            ++++++
            We have been talking about this since June 2013. At the time the brouhaha happened, we transcribed it at awate’s facebook to help those who don’t have any time to watch videos. So, rather than re-stating the argument, I will just re-write what I wrote then to people who were being incredibly unfair to Dr. Bereket:

            1. It is a 4 minute video of Dr. Bereket answering a question in a book-signing ceremony.(The narration is in French; Dr. Bereket’s statements are in English):

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej8gARyfxDs

            2. Dr. Bereket talks about the disappointment of the Eritrean revolution. He talks about the unlikelihood of an Eritrean edition of “Arab Spring” due to the absence of Eritrean youth in Asmara.(exodus, which has only gotten worse since 2013.) He mentions how Isaias Afwerki once said in a meeting in Sierra Leone that he wished “we had killed him [Dr. Bereket]”

            Now, Does anyone find this not credible coming from Isaias Afwerki whose problem solving skills are limited to: arrest, disappear, kill?

            2. Dr Bereket says: “If the African Union could energize enough… and will, and push in this process of regional re-unification, in the view of a future launching pad for African Union, I think it would be the way to go. Realistically speaking, I don’t see any other way.”

            Here, he is talking about how the future of Africa is in regional unification. This is exactly what Africa is pursuing by creating a common market larger than the European Union. In fact, it did that just this year by combining all the common markets like COMESA.

            3. Dr. Bereket then says: “I have been part of Ethiopia. There is a larger sense in which we are all Ethiopians, historically, culturally speaking as I tried to explain today. And my wish, and my hope before I die is that we’ll come back together in a larger unity, transcending all these divisions.”

            [The keyword there is to “transcend.” And it doesn’t have the same meaning people think of unless one remembers that Dr. Bereket has been “Professor of African and Afro-American Studies” and a Pan-Africanist (advising on constitutional reform for Nigeria, Congo) for decades now. The “we” in his quote, I believe, refers to all Africans. That we identify with Ethiopia.]

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Hayata,

            I agree with your entire message. Many or most Eritreans in Ethiopia and some in Eritrea during the 60s through early 80s had to deal with two equally powerful but opposing forces, and I don’t think their obviously mind boggling dilemmas has been given the appreciation they deserve.

            Blaming Eritreans who joined Eritrean struggle regardless of how much trust or privilege was accorded them in Ethiopia is not fair at all. By the same token blaming Eritreans for not joining the struggles quickly enough is not fair either. We all need to make a careful assessment of each individual’s circumstances for deciding whatever they decided then and afterwards.

            I can only imagine how challenging it must have been for Dr. Bereket and many others like him in distinguishing between which is trust and which is betrayal.

          • Selam Fanti Ghana,

            If we look at his journey through life: he served the emperor, (I am not privy of the role he played in the derg government), joined the eritrean liberation movement and served the eritrean regime by drafting the constitution and may be as an advisor to dia too. His last wish in life is to see again the reunion of ethiopia and eritrea before his death.
            It is very difficult to say that an educated person like him, a person who knew world affairs and politics of the region very well, was unable to diagnose earlier the possible evolution of the ethio-eritrean conflict and did not figure out that IA was a budding dictator in the field, as he cleared his way to power by killings, disappearances and by forcing those who opposed him to commit suicide, and he would have become a vicious dictator if he controlled power at the center.
            If we say that things did not go for him the way he expected, and he is now talking of another homecoming (reunion), what would you think that makes him? Don’t you think that this makes him an opportunist, unless he says that he has regretted for his previous actions? The problem is that nobody, not ethiopians and nor eritreans could believe him. He should have kept quiet, because I believe that from his position, he has no legitimacy to say two opposing things, eritrean independence and eritrean reunion with ethiopia, which brings to mind Abi’s ‘ባንድ ራስ ሁለት ምላስ፣’, which is opportunism.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Horizon,

            As specifics go, I know a lot less about Dr. Bereket than you do, but what I was saying was that what many Eritreans had to go through could not have been easy. First they have to sort out what is right and what is wrong, then they have to decide where they belong, then they have to observe what those in the same situation are doing and saying and so on. Once the moment of truth comes and they make their decision it still does not mean all doubts are removed.

            In most cases people make decisions without necessarily being 100% sure about the step. There is always self-doubt and what ifs, but what is really important is whether a given person stayed true to their core principle or not. Mind you, most Eritreans who lived in Ethiopia and joined EPLF or PFDJ later, would only have known the organization superficially. Even those who were closer and inside these organizations couldn’t have envisioned the PFDJ we are witnessing today.

            Their assumption of what they were struggling for and what was promised with exceptional intensity was independence, freedom, and harmony, so any Eritrean’s decision wanting to be part of the struggle that would actualize that promise has to be understandable. I believe that Dr. Bereket’s decision to join PFDJ and his eventual decision to leave it strengthens his staying true to his core principle than make him an opportunist.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Hayat,

            I rarely miss reading your posts. But this one gave me an opportunity to write what I wanted to write about you. It is a pleasure to meet a sister as liberated as you continuously gracing this wonderful forum. You a hard to replace gem among the many sharp, intelligent and educated commenters.

            On your robust defense of Dr. Berekhet I understand you are playing your politics from super pragmatic angle. I think that is what sober politicians who have set the priorities in order do. They strive to tread the middle path because they know alienating one part of the equation can contaminate the whole. So, what you have argued about the good Prof. is that since he has come to join the justice seeker camp, he should be welcome and not be shunned on the basis of his past roles. I would take this point as valid, and one cannot object to logic that rationalize it. It was in fact within that context that the ELF had put its members on path of risky harm when it organized his exist from Asmara after he left the Derg and wanted to escape. I remember that the ELF had to pay to compensate the owner of Volkswagen that brought him out of the city. One of the member of the team who organized the operation was a mother of nearly 4 and 1 1/2 year old boy and girl respectively. She could not return back to Asmara and she had to miss her kids for years until they were smuggled.

            But taking into consideration the status of Prof. Berekhet as an intellectual and accomplished jurist who had deep knowledge of the social, demographic and political set up of his country, there things he should not be spared from criticism. One of these is his role in playing the huge role in drafting the EPLF sponsored constitution. I am raising this point know after being reminded by how he described the Eritrean people’s make up in his review of Dr. Joseph Venosa’s manuscript. As a jurist what a constitution meant to the people and their unity that he had celebrated in this review repeatedly narrating historical anecdotes such as breaking the food taboo, he should have resisted operating on Isayas’ whims in discharging his duties on that crucial task of writing the nation’s constitution. At least it is overdue that he should boldly apologizing to the people about the loopholes he let to pass in that constitution one of which was the issue of languages.

            Regards

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Hayat Adem,
            .
            I always get into trouble when I agree with Nitricc sometimes with myself.
            Your post deserve a longer and thorough response but will try this short one.
            .
            I want to confess to you that I became a staunch defender of Haile Selassie at Awate University and not before. Specially not during the school days. The man had a lot of blind spots. That said, a lot of the unjustified pile on that went on was the reason for my standing up and probably will continue.
            .
            Dr. Bereket.
            My particular pinch and rage came about of his role in sitting in judgment and investigation of his former colleagues on behalf of the Derg. That closed the book, for me. The other behavior subsequent to that was taken as a confirmation of my belief.
            .
            In reading your post, which I have to read again, you have pointed out several valid points. One particular is the one you made about what he did was not to augment his own comfort. In fact he had taken risks. I have to revisit my belief and investigate it further. Perhaps read his book and other material to reach a peace of mind. For now, I have to go to a neutral zone and don’t be too quick to agree with Nitricc.
            Thanks.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Gebremedhin Yohannes

            selm KH
            1.would you say the same thing about your beloved professor Mesfin the chairman of the committee
            where Dr Berket serve?
            2.Being A friend of General Aman do you think he would survive after the death of the general or you prefer his death instead of running away
            3.Do you think Eritreans were paying their due tax during the king ? so is it a big deal if their children went to the only university the country have ,forget about the 2 ports the government of the king was using
            G/Medhin

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hayat,

            Sometimes I blame the mosquito, for not finishing him in 1994.

            Berhe

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Hayat,

            Please, if you don’t mind it explain or illustrate more on what you mean by the following comment. Please stress on “the bigger truth and the law of nature and strength of culture …. the positive changes I see in people like Prf. Bereket”. Thanks in advance.

            “I always hope there wil be a better day ahead of us where the politics of today will give way to the bigger truth and the law of nature and the strength of culture when it comes to bringing the two people together in the fraternal solidarity as it should be is because of the positive changes I see in people like Prf Bereket.”

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Hameed,
            I was trying to point the ideal scenario of real relationship between the two peoples. The bigger truth being sides cooperating to the highest levet to advance their interests and enjoy mutual benefits with maximum synergy. “The law of nature” is to show that they are geographically tied together and physical separation is impossible. But politics seems to ignore such fact and always gets on the way though eventually will yeild. These two people share culture and hisrory more than or as much as any two closest neghboring countries do. That should mean a positive force in building their common future.
            I don’t know if clarify them adequately but we can always discuss them more and farther. Apologies for responding late as I was alerted to it 10 minutes ago.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            Earlier Today was a Manchester Derby. We don’t need another derby here.
            እኔና ንግስቴ በማይረባ ነገር አንጣላም::

          • Hayat Adem

            Yes, kibur Luel Ras Abi. Did your team win?

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            It was a tie game.
            Man U 0
            City 0
            The ” noisy neighbors” played better for a change. They played at home.
            You see I like to talk about more important things than that guy.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Kim Hanna,
            I do not know whether you had enrolled in that university in 1968. I enrolled during that academic year. I am not sure about the truth of your statement. Actually, Eritreans were disadvantaged due to the fact that passing Amharic was mandatory and played role to reduce their number in the university. That was one of the reasons why many students from Eritrea strived to enroll in the Beidemariam laboratory school which exempted students from passing matriculation. About a third (under 30 in total) from Eritreans who enrolled in the year you have mentioned came via that school.
            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo & Kim,

            Kim – First most of the time Shoan (that include Addis) was first in passing matriculation. I saw statistics somewhere which I am unable to pull it now. Eritrea is second to Shoa. As Ismail told you, for Eritreans Amharic was always the hinderance, as it was a must to get a passing grade in it. I remember my good teacher (who taught me in high school) who had an average B grade in other subjects but failed twice in Amharic could not attend the University. However in his 3rd try he made it, and graduated from the school of engineering. So you are wrong in your chatctetization. But if Amaharic wasn’t a must, I have no doubt the number of admission will exceed significantly to the Shoan.

            Regards

          • Berhe Y

            Hi AH,

            During the Derg time, they removed Amharic as requirement and left English and Math.

            I think I told this story before, there was legendary student named Tesfay MeresE when we were in high school. The story goes he got A in all subjects including French but he got F in Amharic. The ministry was puzzled and they didn’t know what to do, and they called him to explain (because he class marks in Amharic was also top). He gave them excuse like he made error when he was marking the answers etc. Everyone knew he did it in some sort of protest.

            He went to study Engineering at Addis Abeba university, and if I am correct he broke the highest record that was held in the university. I remember seeing him interview on tv.

            Last I heard he was teaching at some university in the Boston area.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Hi Berhe,
            You encouraged me to tell a story rather to pay a deserving Tribute to one of the most brilliant students I even known (I was just struggling whether to tell it or not), It is about Kinfe, he is no more among us. Salut pote wherever you are now, you will never be forgotten! All A and just 1 B in Amharic. Impossible to bit in 3 of the 4 years we were together in Qehas. Tesfay’s name clicks too, not 100% sure if he was in the same year, but too many years to put a face to the name or too many holes in my brain. I don’t want to brag about it other than when it make Abi happy, but I was the only one to get the only A in Eritrea in Amharic that year.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Haile, at the risk of disturbing the flow of the discussion, but placing Amharic language so high value in the academics, i can’t help it but to think that it was done by design. for one to give the Amara to give unfair advantage over the none Amharic speaking students and for two, to enforce the Amharic language to be the unquestionable superiority over the rest of the other languages. if not, why not make english as determinant language just to level the playing field? i am saying this because this is the first time i am learning about this absolute absurdity. so, my question to you is what was the reason for the toothless Amharic to designate so much value? I am saying this, to my understanding for the ongoing discussion, if one does not pass in Amharic nothing matters. am i right?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitric,

            I think during HS time it was a requirement. For example, you would get tested in 6 or 7 subjects. Out of that they must count the three (Amharic, math and English) and the best two out of the rest to get your average.

            During derg (when we were students) that was removed and only English and math were the mandatory.

            I do not remember when they removed Amharic as mandatory, but I remember clearly my math teacher (memhir Abdulahi) telling the story.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Hi Nitricc,
            Berhe already said it. Passing Amharic at that time was not a requirement. I just mentioned it because I was far from being fluent in Amharic in my class let alone to in my school. There were so many student whose mother language was Amharic in my school.
            Just be careful not elevating everything to a higher political level.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile,

            I am glad you shared. You can google “Dr. Tesfay Meressi” and you will find his profile with his picture.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Thank you Berhe,
            He must have been 1 or 2 years my junior. Thank you Awetistats for tolerating my short escapade in somewhat individual/private stories.

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            I think I told you or somebody here I still have his graduation day picture.
            Whatever story you heard is BS.
            Amharic was not mandatory at that time. Only English and Mathematics.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            This is what I said, I think you misread it.

            “During the Derg time, they removed Amharic as requirement and left English and Math.”

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            Ok I got it. Then, why on earth should someone care about his Amharic grade? Just ask Hawuna Berhe. Don’t take every propaganda as it is.
            Besides, since when the ministry check individual grades. In those days You apply for college just after ESLCE exam with three choices in diploma and degree programs. If you pass the exam you check Addis Zemen as to which University you are assigned. That is all. Nobody checks for individual grades.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat/ Ismail AA,
            .
            Yes, the very early part of 1968 at the Sidest Kilo Campus. The memory of a long time ago I expressed was about the discussion we have had about the imbalance in favor of Eritreans for the limited space at the University. We were afraid it was intentionally done. It may or may not have been a legitimate concern.
            .
            Amanuel, you are telling me, the number might have been even higher had it not been for the Amharic language barrier.
            Just to be a little more precise, Shoa really meant Addis Ababa. There were Eritreans in Addis Ababa high schools too.
            .
            The non Addis Shoans and other places were not graduating that many students because they didn’t have that many high schools.
            Perhaps that was the reason for the imbalance. But then again, it was 50 years ago, different times different problems.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            There was this rumor that circulated in addis (i can not remember the year) that the dean of aau, who happened to be an eritrean, had allowed about 50% of the freshmen to come from eritrea. Please, do not ask me to support it, or for any other details.
            The thing i found somehow odd was how he could coordinate the ministry and the university to bring this result, although it was not impossible. The eslc was handled by these two organizations.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Horizon,
            I am sure it remains rumor and a wild one at that. Not that I know anything about the believes or working methods of the Eritrean dean you mentioned nor about the system of sorting and selecting the student body but 50% of the admitted from Eritrea seems way veyond concievability. Imagine 50% of Eritrean student population in Addis! It is almost like transporting Eritrea physically here. I wouldn’t even think the possibility of such of ration in Asmara ujiversity let alone in Addis. It is quite a stretch.
            Horizon, you and I should not be surprized by or siezed up of such rumors because we exactly know that we live in a world that spins nonstop between the two poles of truth and fiction.

          • Selam Hayat Adem,

            May be I have not made myself clear. It was a single case, and it is said to have happened only once, which was canceled. It was not happening regularly every year, and of course, it could not have happened this way.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,
            .
            The late 60s observation I was talking about leads to these kinds of exaggerated rumors. At the time, even if the percentage was 35% of the student population, that would be excessive. The Amharic barrier some brought up had its own set of issues that was difficult to reconcile.
            .
            I guess, the main point is to say, the Ethiopian Government did not discriminate against Eritreans as sometimes insinuated and claimed by some.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            Having Amharic as one of a must pass subject to join aau was indeed a big mistake. Remember, the same holds true for oromos and other ethnic groups as well, and not only for eritreans. One can not deny that amharic was a widely spoken language and it had a developed literature, compared to other languages, and having it as an official language as it it is today was not a bad idea. Nevertheless, the amhara culture was propagated through it as well, which was not right.
            Many eritreans studied with scholarship, and i do not think that this was a sign of discrimination. Ethiopians shared whatever they had with eritreans at every level, be it in business, government, whatever, and saying that they were discriminated is far from the truth. i do not think that there is an example of a discriminated and colonized people who were at the same time ministers, generals, rich business people, etc.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            So with the one that opened with the other cities (Dekemhare, Mendefera, and Massawa) Keren had two high schools after 1963. When this four high schools opened, it was in the national news papers hailed with great welcome as extension to the two high schools of Asmara that is exactly I read at that time. Keep in mind that I am talking the high schools recognized by the ministry of education of Ethiopia for the purposes of matriculation. So when was that high school opned? Was it recognized as high school of the Ethiopian educational system where teachers assigned from the ministry? Why were kerenites like Tesfay Tecle and Weldeyesus were attending at Luel Mekonen high school if they could attend at Keren high school in late 50s and early 60s before 1963? I am sure you understand me that I am not talking about the junior high. What I am understanding from you is : Keren had two high schools after 1963. When was the high school your talking about that had six classes was opened?

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Emma,
            The categorization was actullly different. Initially it was elementary school (1-6) Middle school (7-8) and secondary school (9-12) In the times of Weldeyesus and his generation, they could only finish high school and they had to go elsewhere–many of the Kerenite you know in the ELF just joined the revolution. The main high school became a secondary school with the new structure: elementary (1-6) and secondary (7-12) and that is what Janhoi called Atzie Dawit in 1967. Of course it was recognized because the demigod himself blessed it 🙂 But that was the only secondary school serving all of Senhit, large parts of Hamassen, Gash, Barka, and Sahel and Western Semhar. There was also a catholic high school that offered grade 1-8 after which the students joined the only secondary school. And there was a boarding seminary school. That is all we had.

          • Ismail AA

            Ahlen SJ and Aman,

            I have been following the discussion about secondary schools since yesterday when our sara raised the issue. I just want to add my bit. If memory would helps me up to 1963-1964 school year (the year started from September of current year and ended June of following year) there were only two secondary schools both in Asmara. Students who finished grade 8 and passed countrywide general exam had to be enrolled in one of those two schools. I am not sure how the allocation or distribution happened: by grade scores or random, I have no clue.

            At the end of the school year of 1964, I took the general examination in Agordat. Those of us who scored passing marks had to go to Keren because it was expanded to accommodate secondary levels 9-12th grade classes. The Middle schools in Mendefera, Adi-Keih, Decamere and Massawa got also the same status. The reason for that was to reduce the load of the two secondary schools in Asmara on the one hand, and to reduce the burden of the expenses families had to shoulder to send students to Asmara. Most of the students who came from provinces had to either pay rents or lodge with close relatives. Another reason added was the availability of teachers. The Peace Corps volunteers and national program of graduating students from college in Addis Ababa.

            Since I originally hailed from Adi-Keih, I had to go back there to attend 9th grade because it was financially difficult and have close family member in Keren. But there cropped up a problem. There came dispute as to why there had to be two secondary schools in Akke-Guzai alone: one in Adi-Keih and another in Decamere. Since Adi-Keih was the administrative capital, it had the right. But the counter argument was that Decamere had better services to accommodate students from other places such Senafe and Adi-Keih. The government then decided to shift the students from Adi-Keih to Decamere.
            Regards

          • Abi

            Hi Gashe Ismail
            You are conforming what Ato Amanuel is Saying that under His Excellency Great leadership more high schools were mushrooming in Eritrea like never seen before in the history of the country.
            What is surprising is the unprecedented effort to discredit everything accomplished under his leadership. At that time Eritrea had more high schools than anywhere else.
            The problem I see with almost all Eritreans is you keep denying everything because admitting accomplishments like the opening of the schools or the factories will be against your narrative for the collective madness.

          • Ismail AA

            Lij abi,
            Indeyet senebetu.
            The point you are missing is that Eritreans insist on giving more importance to the loss of liberties and freedom that a constitution had enshrined and guaranteed. I am sure you wouldn’t exchange that with services that a government was duty bound to provide a people it ruled. The Eritreans were bitter that the Emperor had broken a promise he had entered to by virtue of sovereign guarantor of the federal arrangement, and was vested to protect the federation in good faith. But, Eritreans felt betrayed when he unilaterally abrogated the federation.

          • Abi

            Selam Gashe Ismail
            You said ” Eritreans felt betrayed…”. I know that feeling. I know it hurts when people you trusted betrayed you.
            People you live with, you work with, you pray with, …
            The modern day Judas!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            You were two years ahead of me. In 1963 I was 7th grade in Debaroa middle school. I vividely remember the news paper the opening of the additional high schools. I was the third batch in the high school of Mendefera since it was opened. The first batch was the Alem Goitom group if you remember him from the struggle (now the owner of meskerem.net). Actually you explained it by the school year (sept to June). Excellent.

            Regards

          • saay7

            Merhab Ismail:

            I love the story you narrated. It is very humbling for people like me, who grew up in Asmara. This is what doesn’t get appreciated often enough (and why I say “statecraft is hard”): what do you do when you are a poor country which can’t afford to have high schools everywhere?

            In your case, it means you (or kids your age group) had to rent a room, at the tender age of maybe 14-16 some 60-70 kilometers away. Separated from family, a kid lives in a rented room and has to be a really really serious student to focus on school with little adult supervision. Because the kid and his parents had nothing to do with Tesfahannes Berhe politics of favoring one sub sub zone over another, of why one province can’t have two high schools, even if the high school designated site is a provincial capital.

            I once read an African Development Bank report on Modern Eritreas current education achievement, broken down by province. How the relatively large gender gap in post secondary achievement is exacerbated by cultural outlooks (it’s one thing for a male child to rent a room away from home but not girls), of the governments struggles with creating mobile high schools for pastoral people. Governing is hard, the PFDJ makes its job harder by complicating it with indefinite national service and unwillingness to LISTEN because it is too busy lecturing.

            Anyway I enjoyed your narration Ismail. I don’t know maybe it’s because I just listened to the story of Bashai: I will provide the link this weekend and maybe Fanti can provide the summary for Abi and Mr KH so they can have a different perspective. It’s very light on politics and heavy on personal history of Just Another Eritrean.

            To The East!

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Aside their ages, poor Eritrean kids of poor farmers had hard time to continue their education away from their parents. Let me give you an example and a sample from the village I grew up. My village had an elementary school (1st to 4th grade). In our time there was a general examination to take to continue in the only middle school at Debaroa in the district of Selema. One of my villagers got the highest mark in the exam. But because their daily bread can not be divided and also unable to pay a shared rent of four dollars, he stopped his schooling. A poverty determined his fate and left our village and went to Ethiopia. Never heard about him since then. So back then it was hard to continue your education if you are from the rural areas.

            Regards

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            There is absolutely nothing special about Ismail’s story. Multiply his story around the country . Actually, Eritrean had more schools than anywhere else in the country.
            The problem is Eritrean elites are still busy talking about the king and derg atrocities only.
            Both the derg and the king did more good deeds to Eritrea than anywhere else.

          • saay7

            Hi Abi:

            I am going to blame ur response on ur dissatisfaction of watching a tied football game. Nothing worse than a 0-0 game after investing 90 minutes. Reread it and you will notice that it’s sympathy for (a) all governments who don’t have the money to construct schools and (b) students from rural areas.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            You are right. I blame it on the ” noisy neighbors “.

          • saay7

            Ras Abi:

            That’s why you should never watch a game in a hotel room next to the honeymoon suite (tennis joke.) Bring noise-canceling ear muffs next time.

            Saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            I’m dying of guffawing!!! That tennis game was disrupted by a noise coming from the room where Fanti was staying.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam you two,

            Let the record show that I was as quite as a mouse for the last fourteen days!

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            It was not your voice that disrupted the tennis game. It is the other person’s voice.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Abi,
            As the self designated calendar holder in all matters “tsom” the Christians have a break till Pentecost and Ramadan doesn’t start till 26 May. But I suspect Fanti’s quietness is due to tsom imposed from his being apart from his queen. Hence his need to state it in public forum. 😉

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam AbrehetY,

            May God have mercy on those in love with a Vulcan Woman!

          • Abi

            Abrehet Haftey
            I’m not sure if you really know Fanti Melti.
            “ያስቁኛለሽ” አለ ፋንቲ አያ መልቲ

          • saay7

            Fantiness:

            You didn’t say two weeks, not 14 days, but “fourteen days”. This means you felt every day and u are in some one-day-at-a-time regiment. Are you trying to kick the Awate addiction?

            Abi, Fantiness would never do what you alleged. I think he goes to bed with his dagger on and he may have accidentally stabbed himself and that’s the noise u heard.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            You have no idea how close you are. I am signing off for today before I say something I will regret.

            PS:
            I have a weekend project for you. Please, please google and study “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” and save yourself and me a lot of headache.

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            የራያ ነገር ጩቤ ታጣቂ ፍቅሩ አስጨናቂ!!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ahlan Saleh,

            I think we are in the same page except as I understood from your last comment it is in the calling between high school and secondary. In 50s and 60s we use to call 5th grade to 8th grade as Middle school (what we now call it junior high) From 9th to 12th grade as secondary school what we also call it as senior high. In any case if I didn’t read you wrong we are in the same page Keren Secondary school was opned with that of Decemare, Mendefera, and Massawa. Correct if I am wrong.

            Regards

          • blink

            Dear tes
            Abi will made claims equal or more than his fathers and it is not the first time either. What matters most is ,we all Eritreans must not pessimist.Things will smooth out after the dictator.

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            I’m hosting Independence Day party on May 24. You are cordially invited. No reservations needed.
            Thanks

          • Haile S.

            Hi Berhe, Sara and Emma,
            The two high schools had also students coming from the surroung villages. I had few classmates coming from Adi Nefas. Few years back I met a guy bu chance at a place of a conference who use to attend Qehas from Embaderho. He was not in my class, but something about him was familliar prompting me to ask him where he went to school.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Since there were not middle schools in the surrounding villages, it means these students are attending their middle schooling in Asmara. Don’t you think so? Middle schools are schools for 5th grade up to 8th grade. I am talking about the 50s and 60s.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Hi Emma,
            Absolutely! Even later. I had many classmates in 7th and 8th in the 70s in Agazian junior high school. BTW many were riding cycles and some trekked it on foot.

        • Haile S.

          Hi Sara,
          Thank you for your curiosity. I am fond of my old school and when I went back home ~a decade ago, I visited my schools, hence the photo. I remember very well of the rivalry between Qehas and LM (the dad and the son if you will). I think Qehas was more complete by encompassing a technical and homeconomics departments in addition to the routine academic classes. Its science laboratories were as equally furnished as the good high schools I know in the west (I am talking of before tog-tog period and before the military temporarily settled there at that time). But I have to admit LM had also a certain aura of academic performance. This could have been partially the due to the presence around Qehas of endaZekarias ’embottito and chiHmiAnter’ shop and the meade bar (አንዳ ሜስ) (zut! I forgot the name) near fiatallero that distracted the attention of our elder brothers and sisters:). I am of the transition/Derg era and by that time LM had moved to Paradizo. Placed in Paradise, the LM teachers and students endowed with holy spirits didn’t need to work harder, thus we largely outsmarted them:). To rival Berhe’s list, i wish I was able to list prominent names other than the 2 mentioned by Berhe, but I am sure there are many successful professionals out there.
          I woul like to add that you the post independence younger generation are awsome, eloquant, smart and targeted. Though suspicious and apprehenssive of the education related changes brought at the aftermath of independence by EPLF, I have to admit based on the young people I came to know, my apprehension was probably exaggerated. Having said that it doesn’ take anything away from the overt mishandling the Eritrean leadership on the restructuring of higher education, militarization of high school and all the daily hurdles created around the youngsters preventing them from pkanning their livelyhood and self fulfillement.

  • Berhe Y

    Dear AT,

    On Gheteb some data before he blocks his account. The following three articles appeared in AT in the last 11 days. I think all of them are important, where they

    The Death of Mihret Eyob as an Illustration
    21 Apr 2017 Pencil Awate Team Comments

    ERITAS: PFDJ Sues Veldhoven Mayor at the UN
    17 Apr 2017 Kind Citizen Ghezae Hagos Berhe Comments

    Hitting the Enemy Where It Hurts the Most
    15 Apr 2017 Articles Yohannes Zerai Comments

    In the last 11 days he has commented over 90 times, that’s close to 10 comments a day. He is not only commenting on AT but on other discussion groups like tesfanews.

    I can understand if he is responding to his own article but going on and on day and night responding and distracting everyone in the process. His targets are:

    1) discourage / divert members from discussing Yohannes Zerai article
    2) discourage AT members from discussing the failed yPFDJ congress in Neitherland
    3) discourage AT members from discussing the tragic event of Mihret

    He was also attacking and targeting the following people.

    1) Kibrom Dafla and his supposed hand in the yPFDJ meeting
    2) The Dutch professor
    3) Beraki and his wife Mihret
    4) everyone else who was remotely paying attention to the topics…

    I know exactly how to settle my case with him, when the opportune time comes. And today is the last time I will respond / read anything this guy has to say.

    Berhe

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  • tes

    Selam Berhe Y.,

    There is no doubt that killing through poisoning is a preferred assasination tool by PFDJ. North Korea is a massive producer of such poisons and as we know PFDJ makes army trade with this secretive country(USA recently put additional sanction for this reason).

    Your cousin is not free from this killing. I hope you will dig more on his political views to trace why they exactly killed him.

    Thank you for your additional testimony.

    tes

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam Graviton,

    You are an empty windbag. Be a man, get your guns and try to liberate Assab.

  • Saleh Johar

    Dear Awatistas,
    The last few days were bumpy… and cruel. We (I think to believe) come from a society that has basic decency in dealing with death (that of Mihret) and tragic fate (that of Beraki). Unfortunately, that was not to be found. Worse, I had to inquire further because somehow, the issue of Beraki, whether he participated in the battle of Keren or not, was contested by Gheteb but affirnmed by Mahmuday. I didn’t want to say anything because on that because first, I was not an EPLF member, and second, I saw Beraki in Halib-Mentel roughly two weeks after the liberation of Keren, and third, whatever I say might not be taken in good faith–as the Arabs would say, it’s “shahada mejrouHa” (a wounded testimony).

    I had carried a message from Melake Tekle on behalf of the leadership and was to deliver it to the EPLF leadership in Keren. I presented myself to the EPLF guys in Hagaz to be allowed to travel to Keren–a mean guy who discovered I was from Keren, complicated the issue and I received a directive from the Keren to travel to Halib mentel where someone will come to receive the letter. Now imagine, it is about half an hour to Keren from Hagaz and I could have hopped on any of the many cars that were traversing between Keren and Hagaz. Nope, they had to punish us–and I had to travel on foot around Keren, through the mountains of Begu, and reach Halib-Mentel in the evening. I sent a message that I have arrived, and two leaders came there driving the Landrover that belonged to Michelazzo (owner of the famouse ‘Jardin Michelazzo in Anseba)–that is a story on its own, some other time. I and my colleagues traveled around Keren for almost eight hours around Keren–Hagaz (south of Keren) to Halib Mentel (north of Keren) just because they wouldn’t allow me to set foot in my home town!. And it was not pleasant though it as due to the bitterness between the ELF and EPLF at the time, Guess who was poisoning the relations? Mainly the partisan Hzbawi Mahberat, who reported my sister for visitig me and she was jailed and went through hell. I wondered if General Philipos would have prevented me from entering Keren, we were rivals but we spend log time together and liked each other, at least I know I liked him, his commander Tesfahiwet, his colleagues the martyrs Said Ali and Mahmoud Handebet.

    Zereba is brought by Zereba, but also, with it I bring you a witness that Beraki was indeed at the battle of Keren, he was the commissar of Brigade 70 until after the battle when was assigned to the “Revolutionary School” His commander was Saleh Herui, and he was also a commissar of Brigade 4, at the famous battle of Diggsa, and the commander was Weldenkiel Haile. Now, my witness was at the battle of Keren and I do not see anyone more credibla than him. My sources has scars all over his belly left after a serious operation. The scar looks like someone was using a knife to draw the River Nile on his belly–he was riddled with bullets and shrapnel and left for dead on the side of a railway track until his colleagues found out he was still breathing and took him to the doctors. He life was not over and survived it. In case you are wondering, I was determined to understand that and my source, a friend, explained the above confirmation to this morning–and later on, another senior commander collaborated it. I rest my your case for you.

    • Ismail AA

      Ahlen Saleh,
      Interesting in put. I just am wondering whether you have ever contemplated who had issued the order that you shouldn’t set foot on your home town? This question just flashed back on my mind because I heard at the time that the EPLF did not have much pleasant time with the residents of the town.
      Regards

      • Saleh Johar

        Ahlan Ismail,
        Now I hope you know the area, if not, it is like the following:

        Hagaz (27kms southwest of Keren) and Halib-Mentel (13 Kms southest of keren). You have to walk about 50 kms though mountainous region, circling Keren about 2 kms out of its confines, at least 8 hrs walk when I could be in Keren in less than 30 minutes. Before a year or so I was in the area and due to teh rivalry, I had a few who hated my guts though honestly, I developed some humanly unavoidable relations with many, but one guy was just fuming when he saw me at his mercy, asking for permission to get to Keren. He refused to let me through (there was a blanket ban unless one was surrendering).

        Yes, Keren was difficult for the EPLF because it was a bastion of the ELF. Most of my age group and almost everybody who left since the sixties was with the ELF–imagine a small town where everyone is related to the other–that had an impact. True, the relation with Kerenites was not pleasant and it got worse, particularly when they banned ELF fighters from entering Keren. Maybe someone can tell us how almost everyone went out to see the first and only delegation (some negotiations before the Hagaz meeting) which entered Keren after it was liberated–it was a magnificent show of solidarity. Maybe Gheteb can narrate for us how it was….

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Saleh Johar,

      You wrote:

      ” the issue of Beraki, whether he participated in the battle of Keren or not, was contested by Gheteb but affirnmed by Mahmuday”.

      I don’t think you got it quite right that I contested whether Berakhi “participated in the battle of Keren”. What I asked and challenged was: What was his role in the liberation of Keren.

      I have collected all the paragraphs from what I have so far written pertaining this issue and here are resposted for your convience to show me exactly where is it that I contested the participation of Berakhi in the battle of Keren.

      (1) “Yea, sure, who was this Berakhi person in the scheme known as the EPLF? ”

      (2) “Sure, Berakhi even before 1977, was the political commissar of Ibrahim Affa’s battalion and now you are saying he was the commander of Brigade 70. Wow! That is an earth shattering revelation, MS. And, exactly what was Berakhi’s role in the liberation of Keren in 1977? Where were you when the city of Keren was liberated?”

      (3) “Yeah, right. Before you said “Beraki commanded Brigade 70″ and now you are saying that he was ” he was deputy commander of Brigade 70 in the battle of Keren”.
      Can you show me where I have contested the participation of Berakhi in the battle of Keren, in 1977?

      What I asked and “contested” was what was Berakhi’s role? The response I got changed from “Berakhi commanded Brigade 70 to he was a deputy commander of Brigade 70.
      Now you are saying that you have spoken to a person who has participated in the battle of Keren and he was wounded in that very battle.

      I don’t think your “source” has answered the question I have raised, which is: what was the role of Berakhi in that very battle of Keren?

      He confirmed for you that Berakhi was the “commisar” of Brigade 70. Actually,I have never heard of Berakhi as one of the top militray minds and leaders in any of the EPLF battles. One of the EPLF commisars who is frequently mentioned as a capable military leader is Adhanom G/Mariam. Berakhi, on the other hand, is only mentioned as a political talking head and an Amma mouther or shrieker.

      There are many EPLF fighters who partook in that battle who are now rsiding outside Eritrea, in mid-level military positions.

      (1) Idris Omer B’rirray has given an extensive account about the battle of Keren as a battliaon commander of The 23 Brigade of the EPLA. He has covered the pivotal and decisive military engagement of Mount Shifshfit, Forobia and Brigade.

      (2) Another mid-level commander of the EPLA’s 8 Brigade who resides in the USA has shared the account with me about the engagements from Bloko Asmara, to Duguana and then to Keren’s Forto. He recounted the bravery of the martyred Said Ferej as he was his battalion commander.

      (3) I have talked with many, many EPLF fighters after the liberation of Keren and all narrated which part of Keren their unit attacked and engaged the Ethiopian forces and how the battle progressed.

      In none of these conversation Berakhi’s role was EVER mentioned indicating that he may have been there but his role was not significant, but minusciule considering these stellar military leaders of the EPLF.

      (1) Ibrahim Affa
      (2) Asmerom G/Ezgabiher, Commander Brigade 8
      (3) Mohammed Omer B’rirray
      (4) Said Ferej
      (5) Filipos

      Ask anyone who knows anything about this battle to tell you which EPLA Brigade was engaged in what part of Keren, I can assure you that the lion’s share of that battle was done by Brigade 23 and Brigade 8.

      I have never heard any of the fighters I talked to mentioning Berakhi as one of the top military leaders who played a pivotal role in the liberation of Keren.

      What he was famous for was for his anti-Amma diatribes after the liberation indicating that Berakhi was not among the stellar military leaders of the EPLA, but he was a political talking head.
      .

      • tes

        Selam Gheteb,

        You wrote,

        I have never heard any of the fighters I talked to mentioning Berakhi as one of the top military leaders who played a pivotal role in the liberation of Keren.

        Can I ask you one question please?

        What was the role of the fallen hero(just anyone hero – that is booked in the Martyrs name list), in a battle of Keren?

        tes

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam tes,

          I am going to try to respond to your question based on the account that I was told by at least two EPLF fighters after I left Keren. These two fighters narrated these account in 1980, after they left the EPLF.

          One of the EPLF fighters who heroically fell in the battle of Keren and was martyred, his name is GerensaE Debretsion (ገረትንሳኤ ደብረጽዮን). GeretnsaE was a Kerenite who joined the EPLF in late 75 or early 76. He was a student in Keren before joining ShaEbia. He was also one of the star soccer players with Ganta Estella in Keren and later on was selected by Ganta Embassoira soccer team in Asmara. Ask any Kerenite about this and I am sure they will corroborate this information about Wedi-Debretsion who wore the numer 10 jersey of that soccer team.

          According to the accounts and narrations of the two EPLF fighters who talked to me, GerensaE fell and was martyred in that pitched battle of ), Qetsetay (ቀጸታይ) the hill top above Keren’s Orthodox Tewahdo Church. I still remember the day was Wednesday and in the evening of that very day, it rained heavily in Keren.

          GerensaE (ገረትንሳኤ), the Kerenite, who was with Brigade 23, gave his life and was martyred in the battle or military engagement of Qetsetay (ቀጸታይ). I think it took the EPLF more than 3 military attacks or engagement , to dislodge the Ethiopian forces from that very garrison or encampment.

          Another EPLF fighter who was wounded in the battle of Keren was Estifanos Abraham (Zemach). He got injured in the military engagement of Mount EitAbir (ኢትዓብር). According to his own testimony, he lost a limb (leg) due to that landmine injury.

          • tes

            Selam Gheteb,

            I thank you for letting me know one of our maryrs. It really thank you.

            But you failed to answer my question.

            Could you answer my question again please. In case, I will repeat it here:

            What was the role of the fallen hero(just anyone hero – that is booked in the Martyrs name list), in a battle of Keren?

            I don’t have the list of those martyrs from Keren Battle. Each one will have incredible personal history. Remember there were hundreds, if not thousands, in that battle.

            My question needs a very simple one line response. If you fail this, please ask Abi. Abi is great in summarizing. Did you see how he beautifully summarized MS’s hetata?

            tes

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tes,

            No, I don’t think that you can find the answer you are looking for in the book of martyrs.

            That was the one liner answer you asked for, tes.

            Here is what needs to be said about Abi and his incessant and unwarranted bashing of The Eritrean Revolution and The State of Eritrea that he refers as “The Province Of Ethiopia”.

            (1) Abi is still licking the psychological wounds of the utter DEFEAT that his Tor Serawit (ጦር ሰራዊት) uncles and older brothers suffered after the gallant EPLA and ELA kicked their derrières in the Eritrean field and finally brought the demise of the occupation of Eritrea by the Ethiopian armed forces.

            (2) By his own very admission, his “Eritrean” wife refers and calls the Eritrean fighters (ተጋደልቲ) as Wenbedes (ወንበዴ ).

            (3) Any Eritrean who refers the Eritrean fighters (ተጋደልቲ) as Wenbedes (ወንበዴ ), in my book, is NOT Eritrean in his/her psychological make-up. Therefore, Abi’s so-called Eritrean wife is NOT an Eritrean, though she may be genetically Eritrean.

            (4) You have to take all these into consideration when dealing with Abi’s Amharic one liner assault against the Eritrean Revolution or against Eritrea. He is repeating what his Tor Serawit uncles and older brothers were hollering through loud speakers and radios during their occupation of Eritrea.

          • tes

            Selam Gheteb,

            While waiting Abi to give you a highly needed help, I believe he is the right man to do it, I am surprised to see you failing to respond correctly this simple question.

            I think to label them as wenbedewoch is much more better than failing to respond this simple question.

            Please give me your response once again. if you fail in this simple question I think I understand why you are worshipping Dictator Isaias Afewerki.

            tes

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tes,

            I have given you a one liner response and it is stated above. You can accept it or reject it. But, I think you are crossing a red line here.

            Here is what you have written and that is NOT an acceptable response for anyone claiming to be an Eritrean.

            ” I think to label them as wenbedewoch is much more better than failing to respond this simple question”.

            You are saying all those who fought for Eritrea’s independence to be labelled “as wenbedewoch” — ወንበዴዎች — . Why because I didn’t give you a one liner answer that meets your satisfaction?

            Listen, there are things that I can tolerate, but this one is reprehensibly unconscionable and you should consider what you are saying soberly. That is the only advice I can give you right now.

            Call me anything that comes to your mind, as you have consistently done so before “worshiper of DIA or whatever, but referring to the Eritrean fighter — ተጋደልቲ — as wenbedewoch” — ወንበዴዎች — is something that you are going to rue through out your life.

          • tes

            Selam Gheteb,

            I am not calling them though I don’t care about your red-line. It is what you brought by yourself against Abi. I know Ethiopia called Eritrean freedom fighters as “Wonbedewoch” and I am not surprised if ABi’s wife says so as per your words.

            Now this is for you:

            1. You are worse than those who call “Wondebewoch”.
            2. You are a Worshiper of DIA.
            3. You are arrogant
            4. You are a liar
            5. You are a propagandist
            6. You have no respect to our martyrs – don’t pretend with your red-line. SO much is said by you PFDJites. Everything is a redline.
            7. You are a corrupted scholar
            8. You are disgusting
            9. You are a bigot
            10. You are cruel
            11. You are a killer
            12. You are a barking dog.
            13. You are satan

            Yes you are all these above.

            I will wait Abi again to help to save you from your ignorance.

            tes

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam tes,

            I think you have said enough which in a fair Eritrean Forum you should be BANNED for good. But, I know why you wouldn’t even elicit a warning or a reminder from the Moderator. You can keep barfing all your imbecilic and infantile rants here, but you calling the Eritrean freedom fighters “wenbedewoch” is going to haunt you even after you have sobered up.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Gheteb,

            Forgive tes, may be he hasn’t booted [as in a computer booting with an Operating System] properly this morning.

            On a different note, Gheteb, you do not have to feel duty bound to answer every post. First, what people post here has no practical effect i.e. it is only a chat show to buttress wounded egos. Second, you will be exhausted.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            Thanks for the constructive feedback and invaluable advice, Simon.

          • iSem

            Hi Gheteb:
            You unbecomingly, unexpentedly, and terribly disapointed me. You should have told worrying Simon that you have the unique skill of chewing gum and walking at the same time, a skill that no other human being can perform

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Semere A.,

            What practical steps are you going to take to bring your version of democracy in Eritrea?

            You seem to be all talk and no action.

          • tes

            Selam Gheteb,

            No matter how you try to babtsime me, I didn’t say the word you are putting in my mouth.

            What I said is this:

            You[Gheteb] are worse than those who call “Wondebewoch”.

            tes

          • Kebessa

            tes,
            We can’t check what you said if you delete your comments.
            Btw, it’s ‘Wonbedewoch’, not ‘Wondebewoch’

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Kebessa,

            What Tes has said is RECORDED in my response to him. He can delete it all he wants, but here it is:

            ” ” I think to label them as wenbedewoch is much more better than failing to respond this simple question”.

          • Hayat Adem

            Gheteb,
            You said this: “Any Eritrean who refers the Eritrean fighters (ተጋደልቲ) as Wenbedes (ወንበዴ ), in my book, is NOT Eritrean in his/her psychological make-up. Therefore, Abi’s so-called Eritrean wife is NOT an Eritrean, though she may be genetically Eritrean.”
            Can’t you have a single day without a sin? There were and are many Ethiopians who called the Weyane tegadelti. Look how crazy it would be if they were to be declared unEthiopian, In fact, it is the people who question the Ethiopianess of the ruling party, not the other way. But again, our Eritrea has become the land of weirdos. There are Americans who characterize their government as an aggressor and opposed their leaderships on many fundamental war policies, including Mohamed Ali and MLK. These people are recognized heroes, and no one dares to call them unAmerican. But you and the Front you support never second-think on de-clothing citizenship of citizens for any inconvenient political opinion they may have. Listen to me: Eritreanness is not determined by your book. Can you hear me? Your book matters only about you. Serious and fundamental citizens’ rights, such as the issue of citizenship are decided by the individual and the law, not by you, not by your party, and not by your or any government,,
            How unlucky situation is it when the entire Awate University and the brightest awatistas are unable to school a 60+ old man on the obvious facts of a political rudimentary?! entai mekera rekhebna ‘tum sebat!!!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hayat,

            You wrote “How unlucky situation is it when the entire Awate University and the brightest awatistas are unable to school a 60+ old man on the obvious facts of a political rudimentary?! entai mekera rekhebna ‘tum sebat!!!”

            I said this before, he is doing it on purpose. He knows exactly what he is doing and it’s not for lack of understanding but to purposely hijack the forum to waste people’s time responding to his endless “sin” as you put it, and forget about discussing matters to over throw the regime as in Yohannes Zerai ideas to flourish.

            Look everyone is wasting their time, including me reading and responding to him. What has been discussed lately of value and substance in the forum? And I am afraid he is wining we are failing to see his motive.

            Look how bold he has become, from using weird words and adjectives and when challenging ending the discussion “severely ignored” and now he has become “provocative” putting people in defense to respond to his baseless accusations and lies.

            Berhe

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Berhe,
            It is high time that the forum recognize your point. Since this kind of circus began I have been one of those who felt that there is deliberate attempt to swamp the forum by way of shifting the main topic of discussion to side issue. The AT editorial was the height of responsibility of duly remembering a woman who honorably carried her share of burden in the struggle of her people for national self-determination and independence. Then from no where someone came and provoked an issue about the husband and his role, and the forum got inundated with comments and counter comments about the husband. Of course those who reacted were outraged and understandably. But the provocateur was comfortable as long as the forum continued to distracted from its central purpose.
            I think the moderators should draw parameters within which the freedom of expression should be exercise and watch out when cynical attempts to purposely shift the topic peeps up.
            Regards

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Berhe,
            Gheteb was given every chance, I mean everyone tried to engage him and inflict some sense into his thinking faculty but…
            So, I’ll be following your example. Knowing that, we are not going to read him or respond to him whatsoever, I am placing my appeal to moderators for extra vigilance as it is left to them to always employ their balancing or restraining tools from any serious defamation or unfair attacks coming from him on anyone. Now that some of us are disengaging him, he should not be allowed to have a free and unchecked ride.
            I may not know how to compensate my energy I have been wasting with him. One hope for the compensation the day his path crosses with Berhe’s. I would be more than glad to be reported on that. Should that fateful day happen and I pray for that to happen, I envision him crying like a baby and asking for mercy while trying shelter his sorry himself behind a passing skirt..
            Thanks, Berhe, for setting the practical example. I’m signing off with him..
            Gheteb, Adios!

          • tes

            Selam Hayat Adem and Berhe Y.,

            I think it is not good to ignore this cold-blooded PFDJ worshiper. I will not stop from showing his ignorance though I will take lessons from Fanti Ghana to improve my interaction with him.

            If we leave him, he will publish more articles to PFDJize Awate University.

            The only wish I am looking for is for him to be banned, if not at least not to allow him publish articles. But II respect AT’s decision. And I will take my responsibility.

            tes

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Prof. tes,

            “I will take lessons from Fanti Ghana”

            Thank you for your gracious complement. For some unknown reason, if you sense that Fanti’s method doesn’t seem to work, retreat quickly and apply a different tactic.

            teteHaHizna gedel keyn’atu.

          • tes

            Selam Fanti Ghana,

            Your wisdom is so much to learn from. Your kind heart, patient, tolerant, fact bounded, and your intellectual level is some of the values I have to learn from. Since the time I started to read your lines I have this take about you. I repeat it again and again. The reason I do is to assure myself what I am learning from every line you drop here.

            In 2006, I read a biography of Albert Einestein and this is what I found in between the hundreds of his quotes:

            “Our mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled”

            Feel comfortable therefore. You are igniting what I have inside.

            tes

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            My rejection of Eritrean revolutionary madness is well recorded. Nothing new here. What is new is the number and varieties of Ghetebs in the the same person.
            Just yesterday you were belittling the people ( dead and alive) who liberated Keren. You had no shame when you call the person who led the war to liberate you As a Woman. You are a shameless sexist to the highest level. You called them a nobodies. Today, you are bragging about their victories.
            I got a one liner for your convenience
            በአንድ ራስ ሁለት ምላስ
            The rest of your zibazinke is ignored.
            Because you are a no body to ask citizenship.

          • tes

            Selam Abi,

            I know you will not let my call dry. You described him more than I expected.

            በአንድ ራስ ሁለት ምላስ

            Gheteb is talking about ranks and jobs while the martys’ role was to sacrifice their own precious life. Nothing was greater than sacrificing a life for a cause one believes in. He failed to respond terribly. At the same time I am delighted with your one-liner description. To repeat:

            በአንድ ራስ ሁለት ምላስ

            tes

      • Aron

        Could you please tell us why you chose the forum to discuss 1970s Keren. You said Beraki ‘s service is minuscule against those your preferred guys. To me all tegadeltis have purpose in the general scheme of things. Their service was stellar. Since you like to talk so much negativity about other people service why don’t you tell us little bit what your roll was so it can be critically viewed. I honestly believe you are also self hatin low feeling tembenay to tewelje busy all day discrediting Eritrean tegdelti and war Herod like your boss. Otherwise you wouldn’t be asking about Beraki role upon his wife death.

      • MS

        Selam Ghehteb
        In my previous comments, telling you that Beraki commanded brigade 70 was a “revelation” to you, and tried to bully me and the forum with your toothless “wow”. Just another revelation for you; please feel free to shout “Wow” with an exclamation mark.
        You are making a big deal about my statements that:
        (i) BeraKi com,manded brigade 70
        (ii) Beraki was the commissar of brigade 70; and you tried to make a huge wage between them; you tried to assert as if these are somehow contradicting statements.
        Revelation #1= I get a kick out of your audacity, when I see that you have no clue about the relations of the CHAIN OF COMMAND in EPLF. Every attempt you make to ditch Beraki only reveals your lack of knowledge of the subjects you are discussing. I did give you a “he-hu-ha…” lesson of how the roles of a commander and a commissar played out, as practiced in the EPLF; very different from what armies of the socialist Bloc (including the Derg of Ethiopia) have practiced it, so you know. Even taken in their literal semantic structure: there is no contradiction between “He commanded brigade 70” and “he was a commissar of brigade 70”.
        Revelation#2= Beraki was the commissar of brigade 70, who commanded Brigade 70 in the battle of Keren. Beraki was there, captured in a film in the battle of Keren, on his walkie-talkie, appearing to be saying “Ghehteb, you are lying.”
        Revelation #3= Asmerom, Idris Breiray, Seeid Ferej, wuchu…and many others who knew Beraki, would all agree that BeraKi was among the top commanders of that battle, because the chain of command would demand they were receiving orders from him even if they were not directly under his command. Why? Because Beraki was not only a brigade commander/commissar, but he was a ranking member of the secret party and a member of the Central committee. It does not mean Beraki was the only top commanding officer, but the focus of your malicious attack is on Beraki, and that’s understandable. You could only sing out what has been recorded IN YOU. The highest unit of EPLF at that time was brigade and he was the commissar of brigade 70, as a commander of the brigade he would have participated in the planning phase, and during the battle, he would have secured the objectives given to his brigade, he would have ensured the coordinated progress of the battle; he would have direct communication with Ibrahim Affa, who was leading the battle, he would have had direct and indirect communications with all the units in the battle field.
        Revelation#4: EPLF never entertained Hollywood’s version of stardom. Yes, there were people who were known by their eccentricity and kookiness, but there were no General Paton, Rommel or Montgomery myth in the EPLF. It is amazing how the Neo-bloodsucking PFDJite STARS and their MEGAPHONS have created this underground culture of creating heroes out of mere pimps while desecrating the images of the REAL heroes. Everyone who participated in that battle and all other battles, every tegadalay had a role to play. The higher your rank was the bigger your responsibility would have been. As a Central Committee member, as a ranking member of the party, and as one of the highest commanding officers, he would have had what his position requires to have of a role, a strategic one, and a wider tactical ROLE of that specific battle and what was expected to follow. Now, dig that out, if you could. It is not only amateurish, but an audacious “ayni anquri” argument to question the role of Beraki when you don’t even have a clue how a military operation is conceived, planned and conducted. You may try to dim his figure, but he was a very visible man in the EPLF.
        Revelation#5: Beraki’s role as a military officer was ended when he was transferred to the Education Department. Through the years that followed while Beraki was away from direct military leadership, many of his junior commanders rose to prominence.
        Revelation#6: You are in no place to even fathom evaluating Beraki. Those individuals who are filling you with this type of vile rumors (enda HishuKshuK) are individuals who served as Beraki messengers. They are individuals who were happy that Beraki and his group had been rounded and sent off the scene; some do it on regional ground, others based on career ambition. One of this neo-PFDJites, once openly told us (in the early days before knowing our opinion about the purge), ” xbuQ gerwom, n’Ametat xeQiTomna neyrom”- rough translation: good riddance, happy that he (the president) had imprisoned them; they have been blocking our rise.”
        Revelation#7: I was no where near Keren, and I’m not, by no means, a rival of Beraki, but I lived and fought in that organization for many…many…years; I know its real MO, and the nuances that go with having a first hand experience in narrating such a topic. Sing out what has been taped, just do it in the accepted ranges of decibels.
        WodeHanka.

        • Abi

          Hi Vet
          Here is Ras Abi to help you summarize your hateta with a one liner.
          “አየሁ” ካለ “ሰማሁ” ያለ ባሰ::
          ገንዘብካ

          • Ismail AA

            Gashe abi,
            Shrewd observation as usual.
            Gosh!

          • Abi

            Kemey Ayay
            Yeqenyeley

          • Dis Donc

            Derasiw Abinet,
            You have an amazing skills of word and language usage.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mahmuday,

          I have no clue and never heard that one who was in the “Hafash widubat” to claim he is much privy about the chain of command of EPLF fighters than the ranks and files who fought in real wars under the chain of command of war leaders of the organization. A weird individual lives in a weird world of his own. Zegerem Iyu.

          ELF and EPLF might have in different tactics of conducting wars and battles, but I do not think in the nature of the military institutions and or in setting the chain of command on persecuting wars. In every military unit from mesreE to a battalion or to a brigade the strategy and the tactics are charted by the committee of three, and that is, by the military commanders, political commissars, and by the security persons of each unit. Political commissars are second in line in the chain of command to each military unit, and if the military commander shot and martyred, the political commissars takes the upper responsibility of the war until a replacement is assigned. So if Beraki was a political commissar of brigade 70 as many have indicated, then he was second in the chain of command of that brigade. He had also a big share in the strategy of the war of Keren where his brigade had participated.

          So Mahmuday and others, that you are simply wasting your time to entertain this weirdo individual. He is having fun when you engaged him – an individual with a mission to divert our issues at hand. By his nature he will not be part of the solution to the problem of our nation, for he is in a full swing to defend the despot at any cost. In case if the fight is needed against him, confront him with his kind of languages. This guy is not a breed of kerenites who do not worship on leaders as demigods.

          Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Dr. Amanuel,

            ብጻይ:-ተወለድ :::-

          • MS

            Selma Emma
            Thanks, and I understand your point. My follow-up comment clarified why I have chosen to reply to Ghehteb’s unwarranted attacks on the person of BeraKi and by extension to MeHret Eyob AND their mourning friends. Just a short addition to what you have said about the “commander versus commissar” issue, as practiced in the EPLF:
            1. In the seventies, as you have said, any unit would have three leaders: meraHi (leader), Mktl (deputy) and political commissioner. Later on, I guess it had to do with the loss of many leaders, and possibly the realization of the ineffectiveness of that organizational scheme, the Mktl or deputy was dropped, hence, meraHi and commissioner (commissar).
            2. The word “azazi” came late, in EPLF parlance. The word used was MeraHi: meraHi mesreE, MeraHi ,Ganta….brigade, etc.
            2. Both, the commissar and the azazi worked in consultation, both had the authority to command.
            3. Here is a scenario where both could be working at the same time:
            A/ divisions of tasks: may be one could focus on running the battle while the other could focus on coordinating logistics; logistics is a nightmare in war since every thing including man force is perishable; the management of supply and evacuation of wounded personnel is very tasking. There is a minute to minute change of situations and change of locations, etc.
            B/ they could assign sectors and units to each of them, since a brigade will have many diversified activities, they can divide the tasks (for instance one can move with a battalion that is assigned to an isolated mission while the other stays with the main body, etc.
            C/ They could be moving together and consulting on solving situations as they come
            D/ they could make “shifts” since most battles run 24/7 for days or weeks, one can’t stay on duty all that time. Therefore one can rest while the other takes charge, and so on.
            I can tell you this: on conceiving, planning, and conducting battles they were both responsible in all phases. You can ask Adhanom, and Abdallah Adem. Both ended their military career as commissars, but both were able commanders who commanded their army independently or together with the commanders. This information in addition to the comment I posted early this morning: that BeraKI was a ranking member of the party and a member of the Centeral Committee, would make him one of the top commanders of that battle.
            I hope that clarifies things.
            Regards.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear MS,

            I have never been to any battle or war. When you tell your experiences and chain of command and hierarchy, you reminded me the movie Dr. Zhivago, political commissar, secret party reps etc.

            Berhe

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Gheteb,

        I already gave my brief “findings” but I am not interested in discussing the Keren battle or any of the hundreds of other battles. That is why I will not skip to the unrelated side issues.

        Whatever you contested, whether it’s Beraki’s role or his presence at all, I am sure all the forum members will agree it was a sidetrack, not the main topic. But you managed to to sidetrack the discussion–from one on rights and prisoners of conscience and a tragic death of a veteran combatant, to…. I do not know to what anymore.

        I thought I helped to refresh some memories with what I added, if I failed to do that, just disregard it, as I will disregard the entire thread—I will stick to the important issue, that of prisoners held for years without trial, in conditions devoid of any human compassion.

        Now, hoping to take you back to the main issue, I will pose a question to you, Gheteb, but I will understand if you do not wish to answer any of it.

        Ciham Ali Abdu, I am assuming you know her and you know that she just celebrated her 20th birthday in jail. If Saleh Younis is your cousin, I assume she would be your second-cousin–or something like that. Now, let’s just assume she was arrested from being treasonous, even at 15, and that she was arrested in an Eritrean town, living in her own country, where (and I am assuming) there is freedom of movement.

        1.Do is your view on extra judicial arrest of a minor for five years without charge?

        2. How would you feel if she was your own blood daughter, and would you lend Ciham the same compassion?

        3. Let’s continue assuming there is a good reason for her arrest, maybe to punish her parents, or specifically her father–do you think a government that punishes children to get at their parents deserves any respect?

        4. The regime alleges she was caught trying to cross the border to Sudan in Teletasher, can we safely say that the inhabitants of thr6. eat village should be arrested because they are potential escapees? And can you arrest someone for what they are planning before they execute their plans? (this is just a mental exercise)

        5. As a citizen who appears to care so much for Eritrea (I am not talking about Eritreans), would you condemn the act of arresting
        a minor and throwing away the keys, or, you do not think there is no need for condemnation?
        6. Human beings derive their moral judgements based on some values. For the religious, it’s their faith. For others it is the Universally accepted human right conventions, and the fair application of justice. For the ideologues, it’s their ideology or partisan principles. For the EPLF and ELF (taking our religion out) it was (and is) their dedication to free the Eritrean citizen. What is the value system from which you draw your inspiration on matters such as lack of justice and unfair and cruel treatment of citizens? And do you condone what is happening to Ciham?

        7. If you met Cihams and Beraki’s relatives face to face, what would you tell them? Note that I am Ciham’s relative—you know her other relatives.

        I am just asking because many people here have formed an opinion about you–they think you are a cold-blooded person devoid of any sympathy or compassion for Eritreans, not even a tiny bit, and they believe you are so enamored with IA you wouldn’t fault him for anything. Is there a chance you can prove them wrong, using your relentless debating stamina?

        I hope you will stick to the points because I guess you like focused debates.

        • Gud

          [from the moderator: you cannot call tnis forum “godforsaken” and without shame try to peddle your disrespectful comments in it. It’s not only ironical, but hypocritical. How do manage to come to this forum that you despise and try to support some individuals while insulting others, all in this forum that you consider “God forsaken”? You will not be allowed to post until you retract your insults and learn manners. Your comment is deleted]
          Xxxx

          • Gud

            Moda,

            Sure, let me modify the comment and re-post it. Cool?

    • iSem

      Hi Saleh:
      You called the last few days’ brumby, that is being kind. Thank you for your kindness. I would describe it as ugly, thank for me for my bluntness. And this ugliness, both the inciter and the perpetrator is Gheteb. His lies and his insensitivities and his arrogance are at the heart of what is ailing Eritrea now under the regime of IA that Gheteb defends even at the expense of his own integrity and humanity and sanity. The self-crowned guy who does not accept things at face value, someone who relishes the power of words so much that he must lookup a word while an easier to pronounce and understand is at the tip of his tongue, someone who says he is a contrarian not for the sake of it, but for the sake of truth now descended to rumors and ‘bella-Bellow”: so and so told me this, a veteran EPLF fighter told me that.
      The issue is not whether Beraki had a role in the liberating Keren, or whether he was an upstanding fighter, it is not even if Beraki was a fighter at all, it is all about a human being who has disappeared in the Ella- Ero for 16 years and his grieving wife has died without finding closure. This is sad, it is one of the saddest things that a human could go through and the debate around this revealed our values as human beings, not as Eritreans, not as activists, not as democrats, not as dictator lovers, but as human beings.
      The tribute that Amanuel Eyasu paid in his poem the eulogy that her high school friend, Dr. Arai shared are telling about the late Mihret. But here plight under PFDJ Is not about her role in liberating Eritrea, that am sure our deserter Gheteb will question, it is not how nice person she was, although all these are added blessings to have, it all about what we are all conspiring/collaborating to destroy Eritrea and Gheteb and his organization are the leaders in this long path of self destruction.
      The sad end of the G-15 and the handling of their protest, the deafening silence, the meek obedience and the hate and accusation of the G-15 by the PFDJ supporters, chief among them, the deserter in chief will define Eritrea for decades to come as generation will stand on the shoulders of the present generation, and these shoulders are not solid grounds to stand on
      We have to be able to defend, dispassionately when any one, be it known criminal, someone who has defected during the ghedli era, someone who lead the Dergi to Saleh, someone who had no role in liberating Eritrea or our city, the rule of law, the due process must be applied to everyone and if the rule of law and its path (due process) find the person guilty then we can render the judgment, regardless, how upstanding citizen he/she was. Regardless if the person in question was a gallant fighter or someone who single handlely liberated Naqfa, or he was a deserted who left his comrades in the cold of Karneshim. The law must be blind to the accomplishments, to the guts, to the looks and the deeds of the person.
      Simon, Nitricc and Gheteb: please do not ask what role Semere Andom had in liberating Eritrea, but ask what role Eritrea has played in liberating Semere Andom

      • Selamat iSEM,

        On May 1, 1978. Saay7 is probably not going to like that.

        tSAtSE

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Mahmuday,

    Your defense for Mehrit from shifta Hegedefites is complemented by Dr. Ghelawdewos who knew her very well in her early school age. She was a decent human being, well cultivated from from well to do family. Your case is settled and have a good sleep. May her soul rest In Peace.

  • MS

    Selma Dr. Araia
    Thanks for the article you wrote in memory of MeHret Eyob. It is amazing how you captured the vibrant young MeHret. As far as I could remember, time and the pressure of war didn’t change her. Through and through, she stayed the same until I left the country. Through the years, since the forced disappearance of her husband, BeraKi G/Selasie, I had a couple of phone conversations with her, and continued following her situations through folks who left the country for good, or those who ventured outside the country for personal or business reasons. MeHret and few others who touched us would be the topic of our discussions. From what I was gathering, even the heavy burden of injustice that was exerted on her by the PFDJ regime did not change her. If she was that assertive young girl who sent off that teacher you mentioned in your article to deal with his wounded ego, I’m sure MeHret also sent off PFDJ to deal with its wounded ego: She would have taken the last breath of her life with dignity, still holding her spirit high, defeating PFDJ’s intent to crush her emotionally. She woul have been the same MeHret still smiling, kind, and focused. I could picture her saying, ” I have won, you did not change me into a demoralized and broken person. I’m the same MeHret who kept my dignity intact under the pressure of that deranged teacher, under the pressure of war, and now under the pressure of mounting injustices.”
    Thank you sir for this rare insight into the beloved MeHret.

    • tes

      Selam MS,

      Could you please write an article on behalf og MiHret? She is shouting, “where are you my comrades? At least speak about my smile. I have never let you down. Talk now about the beautiful smile I shared throughout the hard time with you.”

      This is my second call.

      Dr.@ghelawdewosaraia:disqus Just thank you.

      tes

    • Ghelawdewos Araia

      Dear MS,
      You have briefly but elegantly and masterfully summarized the intent and message of my eulogy to Mehret and you correctly sensed the indefatigable personality of this great woman. As I have characteristically defined the person of Mehret, she was a solid and composed woman and there is no way she could be emotionally crushed. The last time I saw Mehret was in 1995 in Asmara and I also met Beraki then and we talked on educational issues. I was then surprised to observe that he too was in many ways like his wife and as the Tigrigna proverb goes, Sebayin Sebeytin Kab Hadde Meriet Yifteru.
      Best regards and keep up the good work

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Dr. Gelawdewos,
    It is kind of to come here to let us know what you wrote to remember Mihret. I will defnitely go and read the entire piece there. But since there may be people who may miss that, I would like to engage you a bit if kindly can stay here with us a little.
    I know you are one of the top accomplished scholars in our region. I also know you are Ethiopian and a former EPRP member. I knew this from one of your articles you wrote about the late Meles, how/where/when you met him personally and what you exchanged at those different encounters. Given this bckground, my curiosity is how you happened to know Mihret and how you two became that close?
    Respectfully, Hayat

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Hayat and All,

      Below is the link to open it and read it in this website

      http://www.africanidea.org/Ethiopia_Foreign_Policy.html

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes Emma,
        Beautiful story from Dr. Ghelewadiwos on Mihret. God bless him for writing that account in her rememberance.
        Hayat

        • Ghelawdewos Araia

          Dear Mr. Hayat, thank you for your appreciation and constructive feedback on my eulogy to Mehret; it is when I was about to respond to your first message that you sent the second note. I can safely assume that you have read my piece on Mehret in its entirety and you should be clear now that I have known Mehret since our school days and university years; the first in Asmara and the second in Addis Ababa; you also mentioned about my Ethiopian identity and my affiliation to EPRP and in both instances you are correct, but at the end of the day we are all human beings and humanity and universal brotherhood goes beyond national identity and political affiliations.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Dr. Ghelawdewos Araia,

            I read your beautiful article, and thank you for adding more “humanity” to the story of w/o Mihret Eyob.

            I just wanted to remind you that Hayat is a woman. So much so, we usually address her as either “Queen Hayat,” “Your Highness,” or those as clever as I am call her “Princess Hayat.” Occasionally, and when we are in a playful mood, we simply call her Hayata. Now that you have been properly introduced, please forgive this intrusion and continue.

            PS:
            I know you from other venues and through friends and acquaintances we have in common in the Bay Area. We almost met a few times, but as fate would have it, we kept missing one another by few hours/a day or two. It is nice to hear from you.

          • Ghelawdewos Araia

            Dear Fanti,
            Thank you so much for your feedback and input you have made on the eulogy I wrote for Mehret; thank you also for the gender identity of the Queen, although I was already alerted by Brook.
            Best regards,
            Ghelawdewos

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Dr. Ghelawdewos Araia,
            .
            For those of us who didn’t know her, thank you for the picture you gave us. She will for ever so remain a beautiful human being.
            .
            My condolence to her family and friends.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Ghelawdewos Araia

            Thank you Kim for your appreciation and positive remarks; your thoughts are beautiful too!
            Best regards,
            Ghelawdewos

          • Hayat Adem

            Thanks Fanti.
            Dr. Ghelawedwos, I am a beautiful female like Mihret and her friends you were describing in your article though of much younger generation. But that is okay since I didn’t hint the gender part myself.
            You are right: humanity and brtherhood/sisterhood goes beyond borders. I think that will leave a good example to readers here, lesson or two for all of us. So, I was mentioning the identity and politics consciously so that you would say what you just said. Thanks for the deserving note of remebering our beautiful Mihret.
            Hayat Adem

          • Ghelawdewos Araia

            Dear Hayat,
            My apologies for addressing you as a male but it was a typo error as I have responded to Brook and Fanti, but now I have no regrets for my “slip of hand”; by default, I now know that you are most liked and respected by your group. Fanti told me that they affectionately address you as ‘The Queen’, ‘The Princess’ etc. and I have no doubt that you are a beautiful young woman; my hunch tells me that.

  • ‘Gheteb

    ‘Gheteb: Bits And Bytes

    Greetings!!

    What Is An Open Air Prison?

    Well, here is what we are told the meaning of an open air prison by Cuz SAAY.

    “saay7 Awate Moderator Peace! • 9 hours ago
    Peace:
    Actually, the correct term is “open air prison”– it means the whole country is a prison where people can see the skies, but their freedom of speech, movement, (in some cases worship) is heavily restricted and they are, like prisoners, told what to do, when to do it, how to do it by the government for most of their lives”.

    A simple Google search does NOT confirm the above rendering of the meaning of an open air prison. Actually, what I found the term used for was in describing such as ” The World’s Largest Open Air Prison” which is “The Palestinian Territories” with barbed wires and walls” and another usage of the open air prison was ” Arizona’s Infamous Open Air Prison Is Shutting Down”, in a report by New York Post of April 4, 2017.

    Given this, the application of ‘open air prison’ to depict Eritrea is a stretch and maybe even utterly erroneous!

    Peace! asserted that “ERITREA is now an open prison”, to which Cuz SAAY suggested the correct term being an “open air prison”.

    But, I now say: both terms are inaccurate and wrong in the depiction of Eritrea.

    • saay7

      Hi Cuz Gheteb:

      The phrase was first used by Reporters Without Borders (RSF) in one of their petitions to free Eritrean journalists. Clear skies, free to move with a permit but try to leave without permission and you will be shot.

      I have been as helpful as I am willing to be on a Monday morning. The rest I will leave to Uncle Google: ask him nicely. That is, look to find and opposed to looking to miss.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hey Cuz SAAAY,

        I hope that my rejoinder is not going to trigger that famous ” euff.. euff…” huff and puff, in this Monday morning. If it does, my apologies in advance.

        You say that it was used by who? And, to describe what? Did I read that it was used “by Reporters Without Borders (RSF)” “in one of their petitions to free Eritrean journalists” ?

        That makes the application of this very term ” open air prison” even more inapposite.
        This is quite analogous to the false comparison of Eritrea to North Korea because the similarity is just simply inapt and totally misplaced.

        “Uncle Google” doesn’t have any prefrences for a miss or a hit about ones simple search such as “open air prison” once it is entered in it’s search engine. My simple search has a negative result in the meaning you rendered as it applies to Eritrea.

        If RSF was first to use the term, so was ‘Gheteb in using the term “Adulisian”, but the similarity ends right there. One was given a thumps up approval while the other was doubted and dismissed as infelicitous term. But, I ask:

        If it is kosher for the former to use “open air prison” for the first time, why was it not so kosher for the later to use “Adulisian” for the first time? Where is the consistency here?

        I still consider the usage of term “open air prison” by RSF to be a malapropos.

        • saay7

          Cuz Gheteb:

          Adulisian is kosher by me; my issue was you presented it as if it’s a common term when you coined it. You should have preceded or followed it with “iye zblu ane ” as IA does.

          Open air prison was applied to Eritrea for very good reasons (it’s one of the few countries that require an exit visa and back then thrrr was some shooting if one does it “illegally.”) But the phrase, or its alternate of “open air jail” is common: we even had one in Arizona with that crazy sheriff.

          saay

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:

            I do not want to take you back to your debated re NK of Africa, but when we say Deddebit is the Naqfa for TPLF, we do not mean that Deddebit was liberated by IA, and we do not meant the mountains of Deddebit answer back when Abebe talks to them, when we say Abebe is the Fihra of TPLF we do not mean that Abebe was in the police orchestra and that he is from Sembel. when we say IA is the Washington of Eritrea, a description you did not mind moons ago,provided that the Madisons and Mornoes and jefersson were around, to which Sem H asked you to retract it, we do not mean that IA was of the same caliber, or the Eri const. was ratified under his watch, we just mean that he was the first president after the revolution. When we say NK, and the Muzugs check their book for dummies and do not find Nuclear enrichment, or that Eri like NK was ruled by one family, or that Aboy Afwerkif of Tselot was the firs leader of Eri when the the shimmering sun heralded the birth of the heir of the throne

            And when we say Feb is he Sep for TPLF, it is the same.

            For all practical purposes of repression,control, killing Eri is the N K of Africa, maybe we should say budding NK until it uses the Bisha gold to finance a nuclear program, until Abraham, I becomes the next president etc, to wait until then, “testawerinnet eye zblo anne”

          • saay7

            Hi iSem:

            Anytime you are saying “what we mean” and “what we do not mean”, you are stepping all over your message. This is because analogies almost never work when attempting to write argumentative (persuasive) essays.*

            The “North Korea of Africa” was a disastrous apellation because when the Mzungus went, they were expecting a country that will have its intelligence service follow them everywhere, uniformed personnel in every other block, giant portraits of IA in every street, streets, hospitals, schools named after IA and when they didn’t find that, they began to question everything else including what you and I know to be true. A country as poor as Eritrea with zero export can’t afford to be as totalitarian as North Korea even if it wants to. Plus North Korea has weird rules like women shouldn’t wear pants.

            saay

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:
            i agree wit: “A country as poor as Eritrea with zero export can’t afford to be as totalitarian as North Korea even if it wants”
            But the rest of uniformed security following them, schools named after IA, children singing praises of Wedi Afom, and giant portraits of IA, but all these things do happen, but you said it ” they began to question everything else including what you and I know to be true.”
            This is debate is similar to whether PFDJ is as bad ad Dergi and people would point to: PFDJ never burned villages, never killed someone and dragged him in the streets and so on. PFDJ does all these but with a different MO. That is what I am saying, but the rookie journalist who goes there to bank the hours for promotion and pull his sheet of paper to check all the things that NK does, he may not find it, but if he instead did the revers, checking if what Eri does exists in NK, he would change his mind
            EPLF clarly state it stand against glorifying individual achievement but they have been doing that since day one, subtly glorifying IA, they do not do that on TV like NK does, but they have toyed with it in the ” golden words”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Saay,

            If you do not agree to compare with NK of today with its technological advancement, how about the NK of 1954 after Korea was partitioned into North and South where it has not better socio/economic than the current modern Eritrea at that time. The issue of comparing Eritrea with NK is on the nature of the institutional system and the nature of centralized of government they have, and not on the socio-economic development and on the nature of industrialization stage they have now.

            Second, because there is no monument of the demigod in our Eritrea, it doesn’t make them different. Because countries are measured and compared by the system they have. These two countries have no any difference in the way they oppress their subjects.

            Third, because there are always peculiarity of people and cultures, there will always have minor differences on the way of their tactics to control their subjects. For unknown reasons the concept “system” makes us at odd in defining governments and how to fight them, the strategy and tactics how to fight them depends on the nature of the system they have installed in the country. When we compare there is always reference points. Without reference point it will always be subjective and the debate could take any direction. Therefore governments are identified by the system they run their country.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

        • Haile S.

          Hi Gheteb,
          Adulisian will be kosher when you establish ASP (Archeologistes Sans Pelles, archeologistes without shovels) :).

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Gheteb,
      This tactic of reminding us there are worse places than Eritrea hence we don’t deserve to use the adjective used to describe them never ceases to amaze me.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Abrehet Yosief,

        What tactic of reminding you about worse places are you mumbling about here? Where did you read that? Did I make any comparing and contrasting between Eritrea and any other places to show that there are “worse places than Eritrea”?

        Why don’t you try to read, I mean REALLY read, what is written instead of peeling off tangent and end up making impertinent comments.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam ‘Gheteb,
          .
          Forgive me for barging in. I just read the above post of yours and an old term used when I was a kid popped into my head. I chuckled, and then decided to share it with you.
          I know you are particular and frisky about obscure terms. Let me attempt it from this angle.
          .
          The term is Amharic, so I have to set up a little for it to make any sense, I hope.
          .
          In the old neighborhood in Addis there were certain kids who lie openly and aggressively. Everyone knew them. For example, they steal a marble and swear they didn’t. When you reach into their pocket and pull out that specific marble, they insist it is theirs and swear on their father’s grave.
          .
          We had a term for these kids. “Ayen AwTa”
          .
          A long time later and on the other side of the world that term is resonating with me these days. Ayen AwTanet, is in abundance and is used as an art form in modern times. Seemingly highly educated people have no shame when they attempt to cover up their shortcoming with a bold Ayen AwTanet, using hair splitting tactics and coining words and phrases. (excuse me I coined “AwTanet” out of necessity, I swear)
          .
          I am of the belief that those kids with that trait grew up, got educated and sharpened their tools to continue their “Ayen AwTanet. I think I am up to something here, perhaps a new discipline in social sciences, Ayen Awtology. More study is needed.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Dear K.H.

            I think there is a similiar term in Tigriana “Aynika eyu zewSe/ zenqur”, I don’t think we used it to describe to someone as you do in Amharic. In tigrina, when someone is trying to challenge you on some fact that you witnessed with your own eyes.

            For example, what Gheteb is trying to say to MS when he challenged him the presence and participation of Beraki in the battle of Keren, that he wants “ayni knequro delyu” he is trying to deny his presence all togher, as if the eye was not the witness.

            As to your example of Ayn AwTa, I think IA is the master Ayni AwTa..and Gheteb is his disciple.

            Berhe

          • ‘Gheteb

            Berhe Y,

            Don’t make up stories and don’t tell LIES. MS, was NEVER an eye witness to the “participation of Beraki [Tsehaytu Berakhi] in the battle of Kere]. MS was no where near Keren during the epic battle of the liberation of the city of Keren in 1977.

            Not only MS did NOT participate in that battle, he was not even present in the vicinities of Keren. All his information is second hand or may even be tertiary. MS, not only didn’t dodge bullets and mortars, like most of the Kerenite civilians did, he was far, far removed to even hear the sound of the heavy artillery.

            In short, he was that removed from the battle scene and that is why he failed to proffer any first hand account and he ended up making a baseless and utterly shameful accusation against me.

            Call me anything for I couldn’t care less, but please don’t give to your violent temperament and take out people’s eyes in Toronto (Ayn AwTa) through your head-butts “Testa” and punches ” Kasoti” when you hang out with your pal, the lowlife criminal, Semere Andom.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Gheteb,

            I knew all along how to deal with you….i hope it’s a promise I would fulfill one day.

            I didn’t say MS was in the battle of Keren, but you tried “Aynu ketenquro” when he presented you with video of Beraki in the battle of Keren since you were belittling his contribution in the battle of Keren.

            Where is your video in the liberation of keren?

            Berhe

          • ‘Gheteb

            Berhe Y,

            You are utterly clueless that youbetter to talk only about the Derg times in Asmara and how the Derg’s Security Apparatus, Ye Tsetita Abal Guad. functioned. You seem to know a little bit about that.

            I have asked what the role of Tsehaitu Berakhi was in the liberation of Keren, MS failed to provide it. There were many leaders of the EPLF who played a pivotal and important role and I have NEVER heard that Berakhi was one of them. That is where you are missing the point big time.

            I am not worried about your empty huffing and puffing here for I know your types. The only ones I am worried about are those Eritrean women in Toronto that your lowlife criminal pal, Semere Andom, is known to have harassed and knowing full well the coward that you are you may end up violently attacking Toronto women like those thugs did in Holland.

            I know that you won’t rise a finger or even shake your head against any man in Toronto. I perfectly know that.

          • iSem

            Hi Gheteb:

            The Eritrean women are know fierce and will respond in kind, how dare you say that. I worry about the kids you corrupt and tutor, from what I hear about you, you cannot be trusted around kids, your stories in that regard are plenty and you are still doing it

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            Do you want to know about Eritrean women? 🐝🐝 🐝🐝
            ከንፈሯ ወለላ ማር ይፈልቅበታል
            ጥፍሯ የድመት ነው ይተለትልሃል

          • Kokhob Selam

            Wawwww ,Abo,,,
            Jebena page is looking for you…

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            ቡና ሲወቀጥ ሰምቼ
            አቦል ልጠጣ ጏጉቼ
            ብገባ በሩን ከፍቼ
            ተመለስኩ ተቆጥቼ
            የምጠጣው አጥቼ

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,
            .
            Thanks for the laugh. The last word took a few moments to click and when it did, it was like Arsenal scoring on Barcelona.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Hi Kim
            የአቢን ፊት ያላየ በጥፍር ይስቃል
            I’m glad it made you smile.

          • Berhe Y

            Gheteb,

            You have no concise left in you, and you never had. Mocking people like Berakhi who gave all they got for the liberation by people like you is what Eritrea has become.

            Just to remind you, you and your god PIA have succeeded creating a “Funfun” government, that it’s eating the flesh and blood of it’s own people, including young women and children.

            You should be proud of that, real proud.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Gheteb,
            I saw you belittling Mihret. I saw you belittling all women. Your naming of Baraki, tSehaytu Baraki comes to that. And now, you are adding this, men cn defend themselves, women are too weak. I don’t know what kind of man beleives and says that?! I think you I have an idea what kind of person you are and what kind of mental industry you are constituted of. For those number of years you have been consuming oxygen, it is truly noticeable you have been in total suspension of disblief and suspension of personal growth.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Selam Berhe,

            Typical ‘Ghetebish Talk’: “MS, not only dodge bullets and mortars, like most of the Kerenite civilians did, he was far, far removed to even hear the sound of heavy artillery” (End of 2nd paragraph of his response above). How could MS have been dodging bullets if he was “far removed to even hear the sound of heavy artillery?” I just could not resist the temptation of pointing to the make-it-up-as-you-go-along treachery of this guy!

            And what was Gheteb doing there to have been able to record mentally the minutiae of the epic battle of Keren and to reliably determine who was there and who was not? Was he perhaps a visiting dignitary being shown around the battlefield by a tour-guide officer? Amazing stuff! And to top it all, he pretends to have a divine ability to recount the smallest detail of a fierce battle forty long years after the fact as if it all happened only yesterday! All one can say about this strange guy is AmlaKH mewatsi’eti yifterelu.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi KH,
            I also know a similar one, some what similar. And I remember saring it long ago… no body has that long mmory except Abi.. i will include Saay.. or maybe Fanti as well..and defnitely Kokobay..
            ——-
            A boy was sent out to shop 4 pieces of bread for a breakfast for a family of 4, the boy included. If the place was in Keren, the boy in the story could easliy fit for Gheteb… Maybe it was Gheteb. it is an ld stroy, so there is no time clash. Gheteb was an adult man doing something for the struggle in 1977…so, ok to the story..
            So, the boy gets back from the shop, but with only two loaves not four per the instruction.
            Angry Mom: where are the two breads?
            AynawTa boy: Here are the two.
            Mom: Yes, I see the two but you were told to buy four, right?
            Boy: Yes.
            Mom: So where are the remaining 2?
            Boy: (pointing to the two) Here are the 2.
            Dad: (Sensing his wife was running out of words losing it, he intervened). Bring the two pieces here. Put them somewhere where he can’t see them. (His elder sister took the 2 from the boy and put them behind her blocking the boy from direct view of the boy. Then, the Dad thought he was closing in at the issue)
            Dad: Now, tell us where the 2 others are? The boy moved to the side and stepping aand leaning forward to access the view to the 2 pieces and pointed at them again, “here are the 2”.
            His sister wanted to exhaust his tricks and took the bread away to another room and get back to confront the boy, “now i put the 2 away from your vision, so tell us where the rest are?”
            Boy: The rest what?
            Sis: The rest two breads?
            At that point he bulleted himself to the room where she put them and reproduced them to the family again, “here they are; the two are here…”
            And the boy won against the three, and against the truth.

    • Peace!

      Selam ‘Gheteb,

      What you purposely keep missing is that our misery “Mewedaderty Yebleun” and the only people who can describe it accurately are the victims themselves, certainly not dictionaries. Now since your family are doing very well with their lives and business, why don’t you try to engage others who have fled the country to save their lives and see if their full of horror testimonies can help you understand the meaning of life within Eritrean context.

      Peace!

  • G. Gebru

    Dear forumers,
    May God accept her in heaven and give comfort and strength to her family and friends.
    God bless her soul.

  • Hayat Adem

    Selamat Hagos,
    Lol… never saw this coming. The silence between your words are louder than the your accusatory words. I don’t consider the content of your words at all. Not a chance! But I try to see your intentions with this, and they don’t look good.
    Let me say this: I can close my eyes and clearly think of things SGJ is capable and incapable of doing. None of the things you said above can be his sins at all. The guy you are accusing is made of a different material.
    Try me with this for a better chance of believability: “SGJ has two sharp, long invisible horns. I’ve seen them growing for long. I’ve touched them once.”
    Oh, man, you are something.

    • Hagos Kahsay

      Dear HaTyat,

      See my reply to your party member Fanti.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hagusha,
        For the kind of stuff you started, I’m afraid you’ll need to do better than that. I gave you my comment after I read you there. Nothing for me!
        But here is my message: if you have nothing more to say for a serious and careless allegation like that, don’t start it. Stay out of heavy artillery if you already know you are that fragile. Start small. Fire brings bigger fire.

  • Haile S.

    Hi Awetistas,
    Joining all those who remembered Mihret’s death in their prayers and thoughts, her imprisoned husband and her remaining family; before her remembrance page slides down the Awate column, I would like to congratulate Gemal Sengal for his talent. Gemal, you are a great artist. You must have been in thoughts of what happened to her at every stroke of your Pencil, aligning her face like her husband and ending with her piercing interrogating regard!

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello Haile S.,

      Thank you for reminding me to thank Gemal for this incredible gift. I never thought it possible to draw wisdom, decency, and grace with a few strokes of a pencil and with such clarity.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Haile S, I second your thoughts regarding Mehret and the artist Gemal Sengal, except a tiny error I notice in the graphic about her age. According to the report Mehret was 65 years old; meaning the date should be somewhat 1952-2017, instead of the 1946-2017.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Hagos Kahsay,

    Thank you for the link. Although I have listened to it before, it felt like new.

    1) You should listen to SGJ over and over again and you will realize how lucky you are to have such a deep thinker and wonderful human being as your compatriot and brother (ab kidmieom de’a koynumber).

    2) SGJ never, ever, and in fact, he will never say “Tigrinya people are the malignant cancer of Eritrea.” It is not in his nature. Make a deep soul searching and you will find out why you think he did.

    3) It is impossible to imagine you have known him for as long as you implied and still, insinuate he is bigoted; the very ailment he has been trying to cure for as long as I have known him too.

    4) You said: “Bigotry and tyranny is not a Tigrinya cultural trait.” I agree, and I am sure he does too.

    • Hagos Kahsay

      Dear Fanti,

      Stay out of it. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • saay7

        Hey Hagos:

        Saay here…. can I stay in it? I have known SGJ forever and nothing pains me more than the slander promoted (I blame first and foremost YG, then the now-defunct EPDP*) that SGJ has a bias against Tigrinya people. Would you mind terribly if you are asked for an example or two or three since you have followed his writing for a long time?

        Saay

        * karma is a female dog.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Saay,

          If we can negotiate about the cigar, there is a good chance we will partner on your tea/cigar/bookstore fantasy. If you insist on the cigar, I get to name the store; deal?

        • Hagos Kahsay

          Hey Ambassador Saay,

          Here is what I wrote to saint saleh in one of his latest articles.

          “Hi Saleh,

          I’m sorry to say that you are no better than the people you are trying to expose.

          Time and again your pent up hatred of the people, history and culure of Tigrinya/Tigray ethnic shows its ugly head. In this article and more articles and comnents in the past.

          Here’s just a few quotes from this artcle.

          “…the bigoted political lepers of yesteryear are no more abundant as they were in the old times—revolutions do change the statuesque, and the Weyane revolution was not for nothing.”

          Who were the bigots of yesteryears?

          “…with apologies to the Yemenis, but please receive your lost children, they like bloodshed and they may be helpful in the current unfortunate crisis that you are going through. They have been the cause of so much bloodletting in our region, for too long. And finally…”

          How long has the Agazian movement been around?

          “…The main targets, the victims, of the current cycle of fascism have gone through many similar experiences, for many generations. Ironically, while the victims are trying to forget primordial grievances and move on, the fascists are stuck in the ancient bigotry and are salivating to repeat the atrocities of the past…”

          How old is Tesfazion?

          • saay7

            Selam Hagos:

            Thank you for being specific. Before I address it, please indulge me with this:

            Have you ever bought a new car (specific model, specific make, specific color) and then, driving on the freeway, you notice that there are many, many cars exactly like yours? They were there before you bought yours, you just started noticing. Maybe you exchange looks with the driver, maybe you have a special smile that says, “hey, you are just as smart as me: you make fine decisions!” There is a term for this in psychology: I wish I paid more attention in social science classes. All I remember is that Priority One for The Brain is: Maintain Sanity.

            What I am suggesting is, once our brain locks on to something, it looks for ways to rationalize and justify its conclusions. In this specific case, you have concluded that SGJ is bigoted towards Tigrinya-speakers and you “find” evidence for it. Different people (Hayat, Fanti, me, I dare say most of awatistas) would read exactly what you excerpted and put it in the context of his 17-year long paper trail and place it neatly in one of his core beliefs. And it is this: Most of the death and destruction of our region is due to rivalries of the elite of the “habesha”: Tigrinya speakers in Eritrea and Tigray, Amharic-speakers in Ethiopia. So, he is talking about the elite of these societies and not the societies. He describes himself, stubbornly, as a Habesha: so wouldn’t an attack against all Tigrinya-speakers be an attack on himself?

            This is no different (and SGJ will hate it because he hates socialism/communism) than the teachings of leftists: that the ruling class (we now call them “the elite”) are responsible, and have been responsible, and will be responsible for future wars and conflicts because it benefits them.

            So, what I read:

            “The bigoted political lepers of yesteryear”—- the political elite who think they have a God-given right to rule and dominate
            “with apologies to the Yemenis, please receive your lost children”- is in reference to the Agazian who consider Eritrea an artificial country and who believe their destiny is to be united with Tigray.
            “ancient bigotry and salivating to repeat the atrocities of the past”–refers to the leader of the Agazian movement who said the way to treat the “minorities” is the same way that Myanmar buddhists treated the Muslims. The ancient part refers to the Wube and Wube-like shiftas.

            That Awate Team and Saleh Gadi is/are Islamists was first planted by PFDJ (no surprise there: every opponent is Weyane, Jihadist or CIA in their book.
            The surprise was that Yosief Gebrehiwet planted that idea in a series of articles. And he was never called to task for it, even when we hosted him here because the idea was considered so outrageous. I guess not.

            All this is absurd to me because in his personal life, he spends half his time railing against PFDJ and the other half railing against Wahabi/Selefi Muslims and the rage he feels when Eritrean Muslims borrow an Arab culture and actually consider it Islamic.

            saay

          • Hagos Kahsay

            Saleh,

            Sorry my friend, So uour witnesses are Hayat and Fanti? hmm…2 TPLF supporters with an agenda. I don’t know SGJ personally, he seems nice though 🙂. All i have to go by is his writings. In the examples I gave you, I don’t see any reference to elites of any sort. It’s your defense of him and I didn’t expect anything else from you.

            These examples are just the tip of the iceberg, add to that the editorial choices. As an ambassador to the people of the rugged terrain you have done your best though.

          • saay7

            Selam Hagos:

            Oh man: ambassadorship is harder than I thought. What I provided is character reference; it’s up to you to accept, reject or look for addition references.

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Selam Hagos,
            I replied to you earlier and I am repeating here. If you need to discuss anything I wrote or said, in a civil manner, bring it on and I promise to indulge you. I am giving you a chance to get all the clarification you need from me. But if you refuse to ask me in a palatable manner, then stop your insinuations. It’s not noble to defame people based on prejudice or wrong perception. I am trying to save you the embarrassment of someday discovering you wronged someone. I hope I made myself clear.
            Saleh

          • Hagos Kahsay

            Dear Saleh,

            In one of your comments to Habtom Yohannes, under the article “Crusaders” branding others, Islamists”(November 10, 2014).

            You wrote this “You see Habtom, there is a powerful group that espouses ethnocentric views. I am not accusing them for doing it consciously, but their upbringing and cultural background has shaped their views and they think everyone should think like them and accept their narration and classification. And this group has always been the curse of Eritrea, throughout its history. Do you think it is difficult to recognize the right of people to define themselves, as equal citizens and not appendages to a nation living in the peripheries? I think you recognize that right, don’t you?”

            Please explain.

          • Saleh Johar

            Thanks Hagos,

            Now that is what I like, asking for clarification before going to judgement.

            First, I believe context is important and I will give you the context which might explain all of it. Even if it does, I will reply your questions to the best of my ability.

            You might have missed it in the article, but it was a response and a reaction. Someone within the group branded me a “Jihadi”, thus my response, “Crusaders Branding others Islamists”. As you know, given the world situation with fanaticism of some Muslims and the terror they have unleashed, it has become common with some to insult any Muslim you disagree with as Jihadi/Islamist. Therefore, anyone who calls me Jihadi or Islamist, must be a Crusader–is that hyperbole, maybe. But in debates, we I sometimes think jolts are important to awaken people–and it is not a bad idea to use similar logic on those who victimize you. I understand that some people could be overly sensitive and react without thinking it fairly or calmly, but that is the price one pays for being a write. I think it was an appropriate response to the specific people.

            Eritrea has always gone through setbacks and mayhem. Each epoch had influential players who use religion, region and any such think that would serve their cause.

            Culture and environment plays a big role in shaping our worldview. But Eritreans are overly sensitive and often, our judgement is skewed. Let’s assume you dislike me and you said something like, “Saleh is a bigoted Muslim”. Do you think all Muslims should be offended because a Muslim guy was insulted? Equally, I am telling you that all the ISISs of the world and the terrorists are insane, monstrous forces, do you think Muslims should be offended because I characterized some Muslims that way? If you insulted or criticized any Muslim, do you think I have the right to defend them, or be offended by what you say when I have nothing to do with those you are attacking? I do not think you should be bound by that fear of offending others as far as you are not making a blanket accusation, or stereotyping any group or sect.

            With the same token, let’s say I despise Qeshi Dimetros for what he did to Eritrea, will Christians be offended because I criticized him? Would my criticism of him be extrapolated to mean an attack of all those who share an identity with him? I do not believe so.

            Therefore, you shouldn’t be offended when I am having a duel with others who might share one identity trait with you, because then, you will be betraying an identity trait you share with me.

            I hope you see it that way and I hope I explained it… if not, we can try one more time once you respond. But please, take this “you hate this you have that” accusation. I hate one aspect of life with passion: injustice. And I hate only one entity with passion: PFDJ

          • Hagos Kahsay

            Dear Saleh,

            I respect you for this “…I do not shy from expressing my views.” (unlike gelegele sebat, passive agressive is for female dogs).

            Now to your point, “I despise Qeshi Dimetros for what he did to Eritrea, should all Christians be offended because I criticized him? Would my criticism of him be extrapolated to mean an attack on all those who share an identity with him? I do not believe so.”

            of course that is true, I agree wholegeartdly, but that’s not the case in the excerpt from your comment.

            What you said there was not about qeshi ekeles, you did not blane their actions or criticise their ideas. You blamed their

            “upbringing and cultural background has shaped their views and they think everyone should think like them and accept their narration and classification. And this group has always been the curse of Eritrea, throughout its history.”

            You blame their culture which is shared by an entire ethnic group and further you call the very same ethnic group the curse of Eritrea.

            There is not much context can do to change the understanding of those words.

            Sorry for the late replies, scarcity of time.

            /Hagos

          • Saleh Johar

            Thank you Hagos, I also respect you for asking me to explain my views—that is how a debate should be conducted.

            As you know, I have been writing volumes for many years. And You also know that a writer is inspired or provoked to write because of certain issues that may be relevant at a given time, but not so relevant in different circumstances and time.

            Please accept my sincere explanation: I never see an entire group of people when I make such accusations, I would like to be focused, but apologies if I failed in one or two instants though I am sure of my views–I do not condone stereotyping and blanket accusations.

            In my earlier comment I explained that we are all a product of our background. That background could be religion, geography, clan, family, etc. I still hold that there always was a tiny destructive group among us who have been wreaking havoc at any juncture of our history. From where I stand, I see a pattern in the behaviors of this tiny group—and it has its values, whatever it is. So, my characterization is limited to the group I am addressing. But if one wants to indulge himself, he can expand it to include anything—any geographic or other identity trait. I believe your understanding is wrong because if I wanted to include a larger group to that, I would have said it. Now, that tiny group was instrumental in denying baptism and death rites (Fethat) to those who were independentists—That is a culture of exclusion. Now we have their inheritors openly calling for extermination of entire Eritreans social groups—that is their violence. The examples are so many but by no stretch of imagination can one make it an entire group—and that seems what you are trying to clarify. It’s not.

            Finally, if you want to know the traits of such group, and its upbringing, KBT furnished a perfect example.

            In commenting to the article about an Eritrean citizen who is in jail without trail for seventeen years, KBT wrote the following:

            “Maybe he was preaching the wahabi. And he was a treat for the eritrean unity in this time of external attack. So why you guys care so much for individuals than a hall country that is in war footing to defend itself from the criminal tplf regime.”

            This is the political culture of hypocrisy that I am addressing and by no means entire group of people who might share identities with such group by sheer accident—just we might share an identity with Isaias or Osama Binladen.

            I hope it is clear now, and thank you.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Hagos,
            I have followed SGJ for years and am quite confident that he has none of the sentiments you are assigning him. I am not TPLF supporter, not from the lowlands and not a Muslim. sgadey Mariam. I suggest you re-read his writings and re-listen his interviews without prejudice and you will find out his love for all Eritreans.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Saay7,
            I think the term you are thinking of is the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon or “frequency illusion. See, I keep notes. 😉

          • saay7

            Hi Abrehet:

            Thanks! If I knew social science was going to be this useful I would have kept my notes.

            Related to that, years ago, I had an idea to bring to a wider audience all the lessons we learned about humanity from very dry scientific papers. Then that no-good Canadian, Malcolm Gladwell, crept into my mind stole all my ideas and wrote a bunch of blockbusters including Tipping Point, Blink, and Outlier.

            Canadians!

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Selam all,
            By all I mean the potential eulogy writers, I am flattered, and thankful to all of you who protected me from Hagos’s bullying–I was so hurt I cried all night yesterday. When I read your nice words, it felt like someone placed an air-conditioner in my car–it felt so good. Hagos, tetsaali’eka allekhu,

            Thanks Saay, Fanti, Hayat and all others

            From Saleh Al-Habashi

          • tes

            Selam ssay7,

            I appreciate your superbe defense to SGJ. The time we master to defend our fellow fighters against bigots justice will reign.

            Let us not leave our fellow freedom fighters to wolves.

            tes

          • tes

            Selam Hagos Kahsay,

            You quoted this:

            “”…the bigoted political lepers of yesteryear are no more abundant as they were in the old times—revolutions do change the statuesque, and the Weyane revolution was not for nothing.”

            Then what more sane statement can be said than this? Where is the Tigrigna Speaking people?

            SGJ is specifically mentioning those bigoted political lepers of yesteryear. It is very clear and sane statement. So much can be said about these bigots. I am afradi you are not one of them. if you are just keep it for you. Please do not project to the whole Tigrigna Speaking people.

            And these bigots are living among us. Thanks to Aga’azian Movement so much bigots are exposed.

            Are you one of the Tigrigna Speaking individuals fascists by the way?

            SGJ is a Justice Fighter, in case you are missing his principle of struggle.

            tes

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Hagos,

        I had up voted you as a sign of “I heard you” to your first line, but you edited it, prompting me to reply.

        You have been trying to paint SGJ what he is not. With that same brush you just tried to paint me what I am not. “Andi HuQona tesebiru eyu emo, qsen.” Meaning, since I am Tigraway, I must be equally guilty/happy/owner of the Tigraway who said it. Do you see a pattern on how you arrive at guilty verdicts?

        • Hagos Kahsay

          Fanti,

          I have no problem with any group of people. I just don’t like it when TPLF-supporters meddle in Eritrean politics pretending to be proponents of democracy.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Hagos,

            Okay, I understand your dislike for TPLFites meddling in Eritrean politics. I will give you that. I also commend you for not having “problem with any group of people.”

            Thank you.

          • tes

            Selam Fanti Ghana,

            So much wisdom is within you and we are lucky to learn from this.

            tes

      • tes

        Selam Hagos Kahsay,

        I hope you are not from Ato Habtemariam Abraha’s camp. I also wish you are not member of Aga’azian Movement. So much bad staff is coming from people ‘so called Tigrigna speakers” full of hatred.

        If you are saying Fanti Ghana doesn’t know what he is talking about, you must be a coward person with a bigot mentality.

        I am just saying.

        So much bigotry these days

        tes

  • ‘Gheteb

    Mahmmud Saleh Or MS Claims To Know The Internal Communications Of The PFDJ Supporters!

    Greetings!!

    Here is MS making one of his TALL claims all based on his imagination asserting that he knows the internal communication amongst the “PFDJists”, PFDJ, PFDJ supporters. Here is the statement(s) that is going to haunt him like his shadow where he goes or wherever he may want to hide.

    ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

    (1) Mahmmud Saleh is asserting that ” [He] KNOWS where the chatter invoking Tsehaytu comes from”.

    (A) Note that, MS, said he “KNOWS” and not that he “believes” or “thinks”, or “he is of the opinion, belief or conviction”, but he “KNOWS” about the chatter invoking Tsehaytu”. Here note that he is referring to “Tsehaytu Berakhi” as the sobriquet of Berakhi.

    What does MS know about this outlandish claims that he is claiming to ‘KNOW’?

    (2) MS is also saying, ” I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours”.

    (B) Who were those who have exchanged emails and who were these phone calls were made to within the last 24 hours?

    (C) Why were these emails exchanged and why were the phone calls made?

    (D) What does MS know about the chatter of invoking “Tsehaytu”? Where else has MS heard about “Tsehaytu” except on the note ‘Gheteb wrote? Yes, where else did he hear the chatter?

    (3) MS, is baselessly and without any justification connecting me, ‘Gheteb, with the exchanges of emails and phone calls amongst PFDJ supporters that he refers as “PFDJites” by claiming that I am the megaphone broadcasting these chatter of “Tsehaytu” that he KNOWS was in the chatter of the email exchanges and phone calls.

    (E) I am asking MS, no actually DEMANDING, to substantiate this egregious and baseless accusation of me being a part of a group the MS claims to be the supporters of the PFDJ who were involved in this chatter about “Tsehaytu”.

    (F) Bring on your proof or evidence, Mahmmud Saleh, of your baseless accusation without any ifs and buts. Anything short of that is NOT acceptable.

    • Kebessa

      Hello Gheteb,
      Don’t you ever get tired of being metkeK? When you ask who, why, what, when, you remind me of another metkeK, Isaias. I think that’s how he accounted to the questions raised by the G-15. The real question is, is it a coincident that you find Isaias’ critics bad people? I am thinking of your views on G-15, journalists, Andebirhan, Assefaw and others. Is it a coincident or is it your view that whoever opposes the Prez is, by default, up to no good? What is your view, for example, of Bitweded Abraha, who took Isaias to task over irregularities as it applies to port usage management? What do you think of Isaias agreeing to investigate the private press’ conduct and when the investigation cleared the press based on the press law, he went on to barring them anyway? And here is the last one if you are at liberty to comment freely: can you think of any wrongdoing by Isaias?

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hello Kebessa,

        Kebessa, the “ECHO” Man! You are asking now about ” Andebirhan, Assefaw and others”.

        There you again with you raising about those who “oppose” PIA and who happen to hail from the Eritrean Highlands. I mean, from “KEBESSA”. Before it was Mesfin Hagos and today you brought up Andeberhan and Assefaw ( Aba Khebdu and Dr. Rasputin).

        Oh, you are not done yet. You have to bring also “Bitweded Abraha”. Please, don’t go for the simplistic explanation about Bitweded’s incarceration as being because of ” over irregularities as it applies to port usage management”. It goes deeper than that and, I think, it has it’s roots way back to the 1980s and has to do something with the clandestine EPLF party, the EPRP.

        I don’t much about this issue to tell you more about it, but I think Bitweded’s imprisonment has more to do with what has transpired in the Eritrean field and the port issue is a pretext and may not be the real cause for his incarceration.

        Regarding the private press, I am not that conversant on that issue and I should be the last person to ask. On the other hand, you Kebessa, Mr. Echo Man, may want to shed some light especially about the funds, money, the Eritrean Private press journalists are said to have taken from some “foreign source”. Do you mind sharing your thoughts on this issue?

        If you mean by “wrongdoing” that Isaias errs or makes mistakes, of course, he is only human and he has made his shares of mistakes as he is not perfect. What I consider as erring or committing a mistake, you may want to say that they are “wrongdoings”.

        Anyway, your invocations of those anti-PIA and anti-PFDJ personalities has so far been:

        (1) Mesfin Hagos
        (2) Andeberhan Wedlegergish
        (3) Dr. Assefaw Tekeste
        (4) Biteweded Abraha

        All of them hailing from the Eritrean Kebessa, Mr. Kebessa, The ECHO man. Do you see anything wrong with that picture? Do you REALLY see what is wrong with that picture?

        • Kebessa

          Gheteb MetkeK,

          To answer your last question, no I see no wrong picture. Why don’t you tell me what it is you’re seeing? As far as I am concerned, it is not a bad thing to talk about matters you are familiar with, even if that makes it talking about individuals from a certain region only. It is not discrimination if that’s what you’re thinking. In fact, I am thinking of stretching myself too much when I should restrict my self to my local (town, or may be gezawtna only). But If it weren’t for access, resources and time constraint, I would love to know and learn issues of all nine tribes and six Zobas. ECO. Equal Commenting Opportunity. In the name of equality, you wouldn’t expect me to talk about something I have zero knowledge of, right? So stay out of accusing people of regionalism. You have done this to me twice so far.

          On Bitweded, your approach is what has now become so predictable: ‘there is more to it, but I don’t know what it is, or can’t go into it.’ A one-hat-fit all convenience! In your exchange with Abraham earlier, he mentioned a good reference for the case of the G-15 and that is their official open letter which is available to anyone interested. What reference can you provide on the side of Isaias & Co.? Hadas Ertra articles written under pen names that may or may not exist?

          On the press, you started on the right course when you indicated you know nothing about. But, as you progressed, you regressed into accusing them of being foreign stooges, basically. And you conveniently ignored where I said Isaias-approved investigation cleared them of any violations.

          Lastly, the question was NOT whether Isaias makes mistake or not or whether he is a human being or not, but I if you could think of (mention) any mistake or wrongdoing. Don’t play shekortet.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hello Kebessa,

            On The Issue Of G-15

            What you are not seeing on this issue is what I have tried to underscore on my responses to Abraham H. The point that I have tried hard to impart is that one has to go deeper and look beyond what has been stated publicly. The G-15 had their public version through their open letter and the numerous interviews they conducted with “The Free Press”. For the PFDJ’s version, you can check the lengthy interview of the PFDJ General Secretary, Alamin Mohammed Seid with Haddas Eritra.

            As I have said previously, non of these publicly available information, tell us what has happened behind the scene or curtain as it pertains to the political games played by both side, but especially the G-15. I don’t know, for instance, the details and context under which Durue had made the following calls:

            (1) Calling for the resignation of PIA.
            (2) Handing over Eritrea to a UN administration
            (3) Contacts with a Weyane through the intermediary of Anthony Lake
            (4) Role of EU ambassador Bandini
            (5) Underground Recruiting of EDF members to join the G-15
            (6) Why Berakhi was urging PIA to accept the US-Rwanda Peace Plan and who was behind this call?
            (7) How did the G-15 tried to exploit the results of the Ethio-Eritrea war as was famously captured by Dirue’s ” TeTeLaqiNa speech”?

            And, many other things that I don’t have enough information to speak about comfortably. That is why, I believe, that we don’t know SIGNIFICANT information to make an informed analyses of the G-15 ACTUAL and not merely stated political agendas. If you know more about this, Kebessa, please do share as I am all ears and would love to hear about it.

            On Bitweded Abraha

            As I said, I am of the conviction that the real reason why Bitweded Abraha find himself in jail is NOT what one hears about in public that he disagreed with PIA about the use of Port of Assab, but it goes deeper than that. I think it has it’s roots in the Eritrean field and Bitweded has fallen from Isaias’s grace and was not even a member of the clandestine EPLF party. It is probably that the “Assab disagreement” was the last straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak, to lead to Bitweded’s incarceration.

            I am saying I have no other concrete information beside this and if you, on the other hand, know more, again, please do share.

            On PIA’s Faults, Mistakes or “Wrongdoings”

            As I told you before, he had his shares of them. Retrospectively and hins=dsight being twenty/ twenty, I think he should have gone with Mohammed Nur Baho and NOT Berakhi Gebereselassie to be a member of the EPLF’s Central Committee. ( Check my note ” God Have Mercy On…..”.

            I , also, think that he made a huge MISTAKE in trusting the backstabbing, perfidious Weyanes.

            As for the “Kebessa thing”, I am waiting whose name you are going to invoke next from the anti- PFDJ and anti- PIA personalities next, and I will say something then.

  • Abi

    አዋታውያን እንዴት አመሻችሁ

    የምህረት አምላክ እዮብን ያፀና
    ባራኪ በፍቅሩ አይረሳንምና
    ግብሩን በስላሴ አይተነዋልና::
    ከጎኑ ያድርግልን እሱ ይጠብቃቸው
    ወደፊት አንድ ላይ እስክናገኛቸው::

    • G. Gebru

      Dear Abi,
      Superb.
      God bless you.

      • Abi

        Selam G Gebru
        Thanks a million
        It works for both the people and the province.

        • G. Gebru

          Dear Abi,
          For the longing also.
          Thanks

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hi Abi,

          “for the people and the province”. “PROVINCE” as you, the adherents of the ancien régime, used to call “Kifle Hager”?

          When are you going to accept that Eritrea is NOT a part of Ethiopia — kifle Hager– and is long gone.This is quite telling about you and those cheering you when you make such kind of statements.

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            ገታብ እሳት ለብሶ እሳት ጎርሶ እሳት እየተፋ
            አገሩን ሲያስከብር ጥሩንባ እየነፋ
            አቢ ደነገጠ ‘ሚገባበት ጠፋ

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Hagos,
    I do not believe social analysis is a taboo. If people have a knee-jerk reaction, I feel sorry for them. In addition, you seem to agree with my note to you not to make it sound a Tigrinya-non Tigrinya issue. But you think that tribes are a crime on their own, I do not believe that. But we can have our differences without being indecent to each other. If you want to debate with me on anything I ever wrote or said. Please bring them on and I promise to indulge you. But please remember, I do not insinuate, I state my views clearly. Your insinuation, and your attempt to be the accuser and the judge is out of taste, and I object your to your insinuation. PleSe choose you point and state it clearly. And thank you in advance.

  • said

    Selam
    My sympathy to Ms. Mihret Eyob and to her Extended family and friends
    Eritrean believe in “strong family values.” “The family is the bedrock of our society and our nation. Strong bond with Extended family and friends is value we live by ,When Eritrean families flourish, so too does our country. Ms. Mihret Eyob was a victim and indented to kill her , inevitably she payed a steep price, with her lives. she was an indented collateral damage , the innocent death of her husband and continuation in dehumanizing their children orphaned. These sad sentiments echo across Eritrea. the indented policy to inflect collateral damage to Extended family are obvious and will continue to be felt. PFDJ in power just don’t get it. Or perhaps they don’t want to know. Will they ever learn the real human and long-term cost? They careless.

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    Let All of us Have Mercy on Gheteb Because God Will not Have Mercy on Him.
    Gheteb said that Mihret was literally non entity that Andebrhan is Aba Kebdu, that Dr.Tekeste is a killer, that everyone was useless in EPLF except IA, whose ingenuity, courage and foresight liberated Naqfa and charted Eritrea etc. To top all this , he narrated with excruciating detail how Beraki used the word Amma to descrive ELF, suddenly the Amma word which was derisively used by IA became taboo, jut to render the legacy of Beraki to none entity and to do that he would back up his claim by quoting Tesfay Temenow, a man he would kill if he found him in the street for all the expose he told in his book. But even for one second Gheteb must agree with TT in an attempt to back up his claim and to justify. But I am sure that he would have a derogatory name for TT when he feels like it. And when cornered by facts from SAAY, he would change the subject.
    Gheteb has unresolved issues and for that we must have mercy on him. The civilized world that Gheteb lives in does not punish murderers for reason of insanity, because they could not appreciate what they were doing, so instead of punishing them, society helps them and so we should do the same.
    Behind the smarmy arrogance, behind the heavy diction in his writing, behind the aggressive, blunt attitude that he exoduses, Gheteb is very fragile, he is a guy that can not stand up to some one who would bully him and like the PFDJ official who quipped, “ezi sabaay ete tieemu ekkko zgebro ayfeltin eyu.” when IA sexually touched the official’s wife when she was dancing with IA, like wise Gheteb would not defend his loved ones and Gheteb would keep ,” eti ab Naqffa zehleffo beddihoo ekko….”
    For all these reasons we should embrace him, love him, protect him, and slowly teach him that it is not worthy of man to be so anguished to keep his residence in the “wushatte”, the insider, the inner circle is very dark but is not hidden from God and since like Sodom and Gomorrah He would not find a single righteous person in there, He will destroy it because as Pastor Billy Graham once said, “if God one day does not punish Eritrea, God should apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah”

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi SemA,
      I sometimes doubt if Gheteb is really as cultist and loyal supporter of IA as we think of him to be.
      Look @ all his arguments: they are so seemingly foolish and deceptively naked, and bizarrely uncultured. Every time he opens his assmouth in defense of the culprit, he precipitates huge punches from awatistas left, center and right- and all mercilessly landing on the face of IA. How exactly is that helping IA?
      If a thief has his a dog with him while in action, wouldn’t the criminal thief be served better if his dog is trained to be silent? Because if the dog barks, it is calling for “un-needed” attention of the innocents around and thereby ruining his owner’s plans, the thief’s project. That was what Mahmuday in his generous advice trying to tell Gheteb to go silent and act like the trained dog of the thief.
      But if Gheteb is not the untrained dog of IA, it seems he is working against IA. Seriously, think about it for a while! How many killer comments and sword bladed hits were posted here against IA every time leaving some cuts and bruises on his face as a result of Gheteb’s provocative feeds? Those comments wouldn’t have come out of their knots had it not been for Gheteb. In a flipside, think of if Gheteb’s repulsive comments had ever won or persuaded a single awatista here or elsewhere other than irritating more and inviting more bleeding punches as a direct result.
      So, is Gheteb the untrained dog or a surreptitious destroyer of IA?

      • Selamat Hyatt Adem,

        Now that is brilliant work Sherlock. Back to your preoccupation. If its not Gheteb, then who? Mmmmm BOO!

        tSAtSE

        • Hayat Adem

          Dearest TsaTse,
          I know your comment above is not a complement but since I like you a lot, I will not mind it.
          Speaking of Sherlock and a dog, you might remember one episodic scene:
          Sherlock and his assisstant were investigating a crime. And they were leaving a house where the crime was committed after talking to residents and neighbors.
          Shorlick: Did you notice the dog? He was barking at us.
          Dr. Watson: Yes, but isn’t that what dogs do?
          Sherlock: Exactly. That what dogs do but only when they see strangers.
          Dr. Watson: And to the dog, we are strangers, are we not?
          Sherlock: Yes, we are. The residents didn’t say anthing about the dog barking at the time the crime was committed.
          Dr. Watson: So? Where are you heading to with this?
          Sherlock: That means, the dog didn’t bark. That means the dog knows the criminal fairly well…
          Dr. Watson: (noding) I see…
          _____
          Not exact quote, dialogue recreated from what i remember

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear AT,

    Is it only me or the entire forum, that I am blocked to read Gheteb’s comment. On my end I am always reading “this user is blocked” except on the right side column not more than 3 to 4 sentences. How are people responding to him, is still a puzzle to me.

    Regards

  • ‘Gheteb

    May God Have Mercy On The Anti-PFDJ Lot (ምሕረት የ’ርድ): Pun Intended

    Greetings!!

    I am not invoking General Patton here when he famously said that “May God have mercy for my enemies because I won’t”. My wish is only uttered to capture the fact that the Eritrean opposition group is in a supinely senescent state and probably in extremis. Hence the ‘May God Have Mercy on ‘it’ statement from my part.

    Now I am even wishing and supplicating that God gives them not only and merely “mercy”, but a Mihret (ምሕረት), if you know what I mean. Mihret, who we are incessantly told that the PFDJ killed in Eritrea because she was the wife of a certain personality named Berakhi Gebreslassie. He was arrested in 2001 for his role in the G-15 instigated coup and the PFDJ has to take more than 15 years to kill his wife, Mihret. Yeah, it took a decade and half for the PFDJ to kill one person. The assault and insult on our intelligence by these anti-PFDJ lots indeed knows no bounds. Mind boggling, indeed!

    Miheret Eyob was literally a non entity in the anti-PFDJ’s political conversations. She was never mentioned and none of those who are now profusely eulogizing her have ever invoked her name. Even those ex-EPLF Deqi Wushate (ደቂ ዉሻጠ) EPLF fighters said nary a syllable about Mihret before her passing away.

    Why then the attempt to make the death of Mihret such a hot political issue? Well, they are trying to milk this particular death to extract political mileage out of it in the hope of scoring some political brownie points against the PFDJ. Talk about the cynical manipulation of the death of an individual in furthering one’s anti-PFDJ political campaign !

    As I have said previously, those garden varieties anti-PFDJ groups and “the Deqi Wushate” ex-EPLF members ( those EPLF members who were assigned in EPLF’s non-combat departments, such as the education sector of “Beit T’mhrti Sewra), have a commonality in their animus of PFDJ. They are now immersed neck-deep in the complete revisionism of the history of the EPLF to fit their current political positions.

    Yes, Revisionism galore by ” Deqi Wushate” in their attempts of repristinaing the images of the likes of Berakhi Gebreslassie. Yea, sure, who was this Berakhi person in the scheme known as the EPLF? Was he this person with “a big heart”, “a champion of free press” and an unrivaled educator? Or, is this a feeble attempt of rehabilitating the image of person with the EPLF in the hope of using him as a crutch in the anti-PFDJ campaign?

    Tsehaytu Beraki (ጸሃይቱ በራኺ)

    Anyone with a smattering of the EPLF’s history would tell you that Berakhi Gebereslasie, in the EPLF was also known by the sobriquet “Tsehaytu Beraki (ጸሃይቱ በራኺ)”, not that he had the talent of singing like the legendary Tsehaytu Beraki (ጸሃይቱ በራኺ), but because of other aspects of his personality.

    Keren, 1977 (June/July)

    Just on the heels of the liberation of Keren in 1977, I attended one of the meetings that the EPLF asked Kerenites to attend. It was early in the morning and I walked to the venue of the meeting which was in the Orthodox Tewahdo chruch compund. I saw Asmerom RedaE (ኣስመሮም ረዳእ) sitting in the front row and i headed right to sit next to him. To Kerenites, they will remember Assmerom as a prototypical Kerenite who was a student, a soccer player turned to a soccer umpire (refree), a polyglot bibliophile whose erudition I have admired tremendously. I always enjoyed his company. A true son of the MesaE tribe (መንሳዕ) with absolutely nothing of the primordial tribalist trappings that we see from the likes of Haile Zeru in this Forum.

    I have been to his apartment on numerous occasions to pick up books that I used to borrow and I knew Assmerom’s mother, a kind lady to whom Assmerom was the only child. I even ended up to know his uncle when I met with him in Zagir, Karneshim.

    The meeting in Keren’s Orthodox Tewahdo Chruch started and two EPLF fighters led the meeting. One was Berakhi Gebreslassie and the other was the Kerenite Mohammed Nur Baho. Berakhi started the meeting and it didn’t take him long to go on a long harangue of excrociating the ELF by constantly referring to it as ” Amma” this and “Amma that” (ዓማ, ዓማ, ዓማ…..) which Mohammed Nur Baho had the unenviable task of translating into Tigraiet and Arabic. He competently and astutely translated Berakhi’s sentences in which “Amma” was translated to “Jebha” and the content of the sentences were made more digestible to the audience in both Arabic and Tigrait.

    During Berakhi’s periorations, one noticed that the sarong (ኩሹኽ) he girdled around his waist. Every time he uttered the word “Amma”, Berakhi tightened the sarong around his waist as if he was trying to signal and semaphore the message that he wanted nothing else but to hung these Amma folks with a noose as symbolized by the sarong he was sporting around his waist.

    After the meeting, I walked with Assmerom all the way from Geza Wereqet to Keren’s downtown. Our exchange and conversation was all about the meeting. The first issue that he brought was about the competency, level of responsibility and emotional intelligence of the two EPLF fighters speakers. In it, he brought the fact that Mohammed Nur Baho was more qualified and more emotionally competent than Berakhi and that he was dumbfounded that the latter was a member of the EPLF Central Committee and the former was merely a head of the Mass Adminstration, Jemahir, in Keren.

    I admit that though I could not see what Assmerom was saying in 1977, I agreed with his assessment in 1978 when I saw Berakhi make similar remarks in Zagir, Karneshim about Amma.

    Zagir, Karneshim, 1978

    Now that I heard accounts about Berakhi by those who were with him in the early seventies PLF and Selfi- Ntsnet, I have gained insights about who Berkhi was in the EPLF. One of these insights is gleaned from Tesfay Temnewo’s account,

    Tesfay Temnewo narrated that in one of the meetings in the late 1972 or early 1973 that was held in the Eritrean field, somewhere in Sahel or Sudan, that was chaired by non other than Isaias Afwerki. The issue the meeting was trying to tackle was about the problems and certain manifestations of “Regionalism” (ኣውራጃነት) within the PLF or Selfi Natsnet.

    Tesfay Temnewo and Company were trying to address and rectify this trend by bringing it to the fore. In the meeting that was led by Isaias Afwerki, Tesfay was asked to share his views about this issue and he did. During this very meeting, Berakhi raised his hand and said that since any PLF fighter who evinces Awrajanet should be sentenced to death, per the PLF’s Mlitary Rules and Regulations, he propsed that Tesfay Temnewo should be sentenced with a death penalty, which was not supported by Isaias or the participants of the meeting.

    Not only that Tesfay Temnewo narrates about Berakhi’s blind extremism, he also talks about the injustices that Berakhi wrought upon the farmers of Dembezan (ደምበዛን) during their farming season in Semenawi Bahri. These farmers spoke about the beatings they bear at the hands of Berakhi’s stick simply because the ELF was the only organization they knew in their villages and he has blindly accused them of being “Amma”. Such was the blind extremism of Berakhi or as he was known in the EPLF as “Tsehaitu Berakhi”.

    No amount of revisionism by “Deqi Wushate” is going to turn a hard-liner extremist zealot into an avatar of freedom of expression or an exponent of free press in Eritrea. Beraki was in the EPLF nothing more a self-serving “anti-Amma” shrieker who was catapulted to a level to become a member of the EPLF’s Central Committee, when, in retrospect, the likes of Mohammed Nur Baho, who were emotionally and otherwise more qualified and more competent would have served the Front much, much more, better.

    Such being the case, the futile attempt of repristinating the image of Berakhi by the anti-PFDJ lots and the unabashed revisionism of the EPLF’s history by “Deqi-Wushate” (ደቂ ዉሻጠ) of the sorry and senescent state of the whole Eritrean opposition group.

    Now, you know why I am saying May God Have Mercy On The Anti-PFDJ, The Eritrean Opposition Group as they are no better than the dead!

    • saay7

      Cuz Gheteb:

      Your “may God have mercy on your soul” is not like Patons (thank you for that); it’s more the preacher-man/lawman in Western movies who utters that phrase followed by “Proceed” to the hangman.

      I feel like you have lived the life of the two angels from our religious book: you have been recording the good deed and bad deed of everyone who was in the Eritrean field, but particularly shaebia. And depending on which one serves your political goals, excerpts will be revealed to damage and polish the reputation of the subject.

      Now consider this, Cuz. Those who are accusing the PFDJ of causing the death of Mehret are not saying they waited 15 plus years to kill her (as a Master Debator who knows all the pitfalls of logic you know that’s called reductio ad absurdum): no! What they are accusing it is of much worse: that it used the Chinese water torture method, of the psychological variety. That goes something like this:

      Year 1-5 loved one says he will be released soon. I am not allowed to visit and I was never told the sentence much less attend court or support him. So I will assume it’s a 5 year sentence.
      Year 6-10: maybe it’s a 7 year sentence? Maybe 10? I don’t know! The criminal code doesn’t tell me. Maybe 10
      Year 10-15: balloons floated of imminent mercy. Of reform of release for time served. Hope and depression come in alternating waves.

      The point Cuz is we don’t know. And people break. Was it an accident? Was it suicide? If it’s suicide why would she commit it when being visited by son who had been in National Service for a long time.

      What you can try to do is show some empathy for her and for her family. And you don’t do that by going after the reputation of a man who is in no position to defend himself.

      saay
      Year 4

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Saay,
        I am sorry to say this but it’s your imagination, Isaias is not as the “deqi wshaATe” describe him, but as the “deqi alekhu” describe him. It a figment of your imagination. Mihret is not dead, she will meet their demigod.

        We have reached the epitome of callousness when the devil incarnates pray for the salvation of the grieving. The Egyptians say, yeqtul al qetil w’yemshi fi jinaztu” (the killer attending the funeral of the killed). Disgusting!

        • Yohannes Zerai

          Selam Forumers,

          While I greatly appreciate the civility of the commenters, I believe that even their velvet-glove comments carry far more respect than this guy really deserves. His writings amply demonstrate that he is, without a doubt, of the same breed as the wicked man that continues to inflict so much pain and suffering on so many. No wonder that the tyrant is his idol! Both of them own cold hearts that are filled with nothing but hate and cruelty, and they have not even an ounce of humanity in them. They will soon self-destruct under the sheer weight of their cumulative evil thoughts and cruel actions. That is of inevitable certainty!

          May God have mercy on their meek and unknowing followers, and soon open their eyes to see the truth!

      • MS

        Dear SAAY
        Thanks for the “PS” section, you have captured what’s wrong with Ghehteb’s personality; a basic human decency. I’m sorry to see EPLF reduced to its bad elements. A Short reply to Ghehteb is pending to be approved by awate. SGJ says MeHret is not dead; true, she is not. Also, Beraki and his comrades, our elders, journalists, veterans, and the rest prisoners of conscience will not be forgotten; they have lived in our hearts and they will continue stoking our love to see a better future of our country. MeHret represents many other mothers who have struggled to raise their children without a clue what to tell their children where their fathers were; if she was not mentioned in opposition literature, she was represented by others: the Asters, the Miriam’s, the Senaits, etc., and others, whenever mentioned, all and each of them represented MeHret. And when we discuss MeHret, she represents them, and other families who are going through similar predicament; Mehret and the rest represent the sorry state of our nation. It’s like adding salt to an already throbbing wound to read Ghehteb’s offensive attitude. Just because Ghehteb wants to bury the memories of MeHret and BeraKi, who represent thousands, including your family, does not mean others have decided to forget them. A man, a fighter, is judged by how he treat defenseless. There is a central doctrine in war that once one surrenders, he is not stripped of his basic human right, he is not subjected to humiliation. By the same token, one would expect any decent human being not to attack a person he does not know, a person who could not defend himself, etc. I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mahmuday,

          I love the following statement, because it encapsulate the whole message you want to convey, and that is: “A man, a fighter, is judged by how he treat defenseless.” Those who are in prisons are our reminders as to what the purpose of our fights entails. Hence, no one will forget them except their jailers.

          regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • MS

            Dear Emma
            The whole argument is not only poignant but baseless. If he considers BeraKi, and by extension tegadelti who may at sometime had worked in supportive regiments, as “deqi Wushatte” then he should not go farther than the current leaders. At least Bweraki planned and led battles and real army. Gheteb’s logic leads us to:
            1. IA_> NAAY WISHAtE WUSHATE: The capo of Wushate
            2. Monkey: wedi WushaTe
            3. Kisha, Yemane G/Meskel…write them off; they are not eligible even to the category of Deqi WushaTe
            4. Abraham Kasa: wedi WushaTe….and the list goes in that manner.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Mahmuday,

            I am blocked to read his comment. I asked AT why I am blocked. I have no clue yet. Forumers are reading his comment and are responding to him as they fit. I can understand the gist of his comment from the responders. For me it is good riddance this annoying cultish individual.

            Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Amanuel..

            “For me it is good riddance this annoying cultish individual.”

      • ‘Gheteb

        Howdy Cuz SAAY,

        To be perfectly honest with you, what you have written in your comment boils down to the following:

        argumentum ad passiones ( Appeal To Emotions)

        Not that I want to add to the “emotional coil” you have said you find yourself in, I have to state the following as I firmly believe that I am NOT talking about personal stuff here, but about public personalities of the EPLF and a callously shameful endeavor is in full gear attempting to gain some political currency out of the death of Mihret and the political resume of Berakhi.

        Well, your argumentum ad passiones, tries to elicit “EMPATHY” and offers little in the matter of facts or pluasible argumentation. What I read was a persausive argument made that appeals to emotions and very little in facts that substantiate all the hoola about Berkhi and his recetly deceased wife, Mirhet.

        Yeah, right the death of a 65 years old woman has given to this whole conspiracy theories cottage industry about the death of Mihret. All the insinuations and the unmitagted dog whistling are right there in trying to imply that her death was the result of a suicide. Yeah, a woman who has been the rough life of the Eritrean field died at the age of 65 after going through some health issues, is such an aberration in Eritrea where life expectancy or life span is a tad above 50 years of age.

        Yeah, the illogicality of all of it and the brazen and blatantly bald faced guess work by the anti-PFDJ lots and the “Deqi-Wushate” revisionist of the EPLF history is just stupendously nind-blowing.

        Hence why the likes of me have to raise up, buck the trend and say something in the hope of rectifying the erroneous narrations even when I know that such a take on my part to incite and evoke the wrath of those who are by now fully marinated in “The Groupthink” and are loving the tunes of “Deqi-Wushate’s” historical revisionism as played in the echo chamber.

        No, ShaEbia has not committed a “Partycide”. That is only a wishful thinking and a self-fulfilling prophesy of those who were asking for the liquidation of ShaEbia sometime in 2000. Eh, “ShaeBia KitHaqiQ Alewa!”.

        Mutatis mutandis, ShaEbia IS still ShaEbia and, please, I am not impugning Berakhi’s “reputation” here. Rather, I am interrogating through FACTS the baseless manipulation and rank opportunistic rendering by “The Deqi-Wushate” revisionists and the anti-PFDJ lots who have tried mightily and medaciously in beatfying the political resume of Berakhi exploiting unabshedly the death of his wife, Mihret.

        • saay7

          Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

          I don’t want to add to the pile-on so I will restrict my point to this:

          You find the discussion of the death of Mehret by the anti-PFDJ opposition opportunitistic and cynical. Question: when is the right time to discuss their causes: of their loved ones arrested without charges, their sentences unknown? When we echo the reports of human rights groups, we are selling out. When we discuss their cause when they are alive, it is not the right time. When they die, it’s not the right time. When exactly is the right time: when PFDJ rings the magic bell? Perhaps when IA in interview says that some fall guy did it? When dear Gheteb when?

          2. Even if you thought that what the opposition and including awate.com did (write a report on her death and speak positively about her disappeared husband) is it the right time to speak of her as an insequential person and of her husband as a has-been who never-was a week after her death?

          Do you at all find your justice-clock and decency-clock in need of an emergency tune up? You really have entered into some twilight zone when you equate your personal observations as infallible (I was in Keren observing the war; I had a long conversation with wedi Baho from geza wereket to shuq) and things you have no way of knowing (all credit of starting National Service to IA and IA only) as gospel truth.

          Do you believe people accused of grave crimes have the right to self-defense? That is: do you still believe in the PfDJs National Charter (I can’t ask you about the constitution because it was unilaterally abrogated by Isaias Afwerki.)

          saay

          • Selamat Saay7,

            Oh Captain!

            On Gheteb’s Twighlight Zone, it is indeed Reducto Absurdum an am personally amused but nos shocked.

            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Howdy Cuz SAAY,

            NO! NO! NO! I am not saying that don’t talk about this person or that person who was “arrested” or “disappeared” by “IA” the PFDJ. Talk and keep talking about them, their family and those who have passed away. Yes, continue talking not only about them, but also the political and other travails they have faced or are still facing.

            But, but, but. When you go on yarning their trials and tribulations, be prepared to the fact that your narrations to be challenged by counter-narratives by those who have the political gumptions. If I raise a challenge to a skewed story that I consider as nothing more than a political hatchet job, I think that is only fair. What I see here is that people are getting very uncomfortable and are even getting livid when these tendentious stories are put through a serious scrutiny. That is why you see the likes of Mahmmuday reduced to proffering emotional responses.

            So, what I am saying is this: Let alone 16 years, don’t even wait for 16 seconds to talk about any injustice of the PFDJ or “IA”. Expect that not everyone is going to agree to your narrations and not everybody is going to dance along to the single tune even if the lyrics of the song is written by Mahmmuday and company in “The Deqi-Wushate” group. That is all to it.

            Oh, please. Talk about the living and the departed even till the cows come home. Grieve, pay tribute to and eulogize the deceased to your hearts contents. When an attempt is made in politicizing the death and passing away of an individual, expect a reaction and a counter-narrative as a challenge. And, this you should never take this as character assassinations. Not at all.

            What are the things that I have no way of knowing. Not believing what I saw and heard in the battle of the liberation of Keren? If I can’t count on what I saw in this epic battle starting from Mount Lalmba to Mount Shifshifit. From Mount Eitabir to Mount Qetsetay. From the pitched battle of Forobia to that of “Brigade”. From the battles of Bloco Asmera all the way to the battle of Forto.

            Or, do you want me to doubt the accounts of those fighters who partook in that operations andt some of them who have sustained injuries in that very battle. Do you, also, want me to doubt which of the EPLF’s brigades did the lion’s share of the fighting. Brigade 23 and Brigade 8. Those who were leaders of these Brigades are still alive and talking about the battle of Keren. Biriray is still talking about it, because he led the unit that captured of the pivotal mountain, the battle of Shifshifit.

            If I can’t count on what I saw and heard close and first hand, then do you want me to believe the second hand narrations of those who were further removed from the real action? I don’t think so!

            I have a realistic view when it comes to due process and ‘self-defense’ as it pertains to Eritrea. Sure, it would have been nice to see all the cases dealing with those incarcerated in Eritrea to have their days in court. The reality, I mean, the real REALITY, is not propitious for such kind of undertakings. Given the political milieu in Eritrea, the geopolitical conditions prevailing in our region, the sensitive issues that some of the incarcerated are accused of and not having the culture of holding an open and public legal proceedings in the history of the ruling party militate against expecting the PFDJ to apply whatever it’s National Charter says.

          • saay7

            Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

            You are saying go ahead and lament about injustice committees by the PFDJ but be prepared to hear the other side of the story, the counter-narrative. Agreed: and that’s why platforms like this exist, for people with opposing views to have a discourse.

            But I think what I am saying is more meta: the discourse about the discourse has its rules and norms too. And not just rules of logic but Eritrean customs. When you go a persons funeral and hear eulogies that is not the right time to correct the speakers. I think that’s what Mahmud meant by his counsel to “silence”: wrong time is all he was saying. (same thing this forum told Nitrric when people were grieving about Lampedusa and he called us all hypocrites or something.)

            As to what you saw and heard with your own two eyes in 1977 (forty years ago) I am sure you have heard of the Indian parable about the three blind men were asked to describe an elephant after touching a part of it. A lot of what you write about is your own personal experience which, while true, is incomplete. And a lot of what you write about–credit for Eritreas National Service belongs to IA and IA only–can never be proven. If your argument is that he was the boss and the buck stops with him, well using that argument, all the mistakes and miscalculations he owns to. He gets all the upside (praise as a visionary) without the downside (accountability of any sort).

            As for the arrested. Even if I buy your argument that Eritreas “reality” doesn’t allow for court hearings (I don’t); even if I buy your argument that the reality in Eritrea doesn’t allied for accused right to defend themselves (I don’t); even if I buy your argument that Eritreas reality doesn’t allow for the indicted to know the crimes they are accused of and their sentence (I don’t), what is the rationale for denying them family visitation? What state secrets was Petros Solomon going to spill to his 90 year old mom before she passed away?

            Common sense is a very uncommon commodity in PFDJ.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Howdy Cuz SAAY,

            Yeah, while you are talking about “what shouldn’t be talked about the departed, per Eritrean customs”, you seem loath to see what has been asserted in an effort of milking a political mileage by the anti-PFDJ lots and “The Deqi-Wushate” revisionists.

            (1) “The PFDJ killed Mihret”
            (2) ” Mihret has committed suicide”

            Now tell me how that fits into “the Eritrean custom” when such an unverified and insensitive remarks are made publicly? Where is the Eritrean custom in that?

            And, where did I exactly gave all the credit to “IA” regarding the 1977 liberation of Keren? No, “IA” was never mentioned in it and bringing him her to serve as a straw man doesn’t take away from the fact that “he was behind the idea of Sawa”. If not him, then who else? That is way too obvious to merit further explanation.

            Speaking of the likes of Mahmmuday who called for SILENCE, it was inappropriate because I was NOT talking about the deceased per se, but all the stuff that he was writing about, mostly a REVISIONIST rendition, to grandstand and extract some political mileage. Here he is even revealing that he is getting untethered from reality when he responded to you:

            ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

            Here it is in black and white, the real untethering from reality and going full gear on pure imagination and you are telling me this person has a grip on reality. Please, I can sniff out political opportunism as practiced by the likes of Mahmmuday from a long distance.

            You want the PFDJ to have allowed Petros Solomon’s mother to have visited her son who is incarcerated in an officially undisclosed prison? This is what I meant not taking the EPLF culture into consideration when people talk about access, due process and law in Eritrea.

            Tell you what? Let alone political and other prisoners, the EPLF frowned upon any visitation by family members to EPLF fighters. I mean they didn’t want or like mothers to visit their sons/daughters who were with the EPLF as fighters.

          • saay7

            Hey Cuz Gheteb:

            When you say “political or other prisoners” you are allowing for IRS existence whereas the position of the GoE is that there are no political prisoners in Eritrea.

            The “EPLF culture” needs to be updated: that’s what I mean about the decay in monopolies they will spend more time and energy touting (PR) the virtuous of some dysfunctional thing than the time it would take to fix it. If it’s beoke you fix it instead writing songs about the State of Breakness.

            And you are spread reading probably because the spears are coming at you from all directions: I didn’t accuse you of claiming IA liberated Eritrea so I can’t negate what I didn’t say.

            On Mehret: she is gone, she can’t be hurt anymore. But her survivors can. Your terrible wdb first hurt them by not mentioning them (Contrary to its “culture” of doing so). Then you gollo the r suit by an entirely unncessary discussion about her husband. Yes he is a public figure but he is a public figure whose wife just died.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Howdy Cuz SAAY,

            Yeah, sure “she is gone, she can’t be hurt anymore” and her husband is ” a public figure whose wife just died”.

            Would anyone in the anti-PFDJ camp and “the Deqi-Wushate” revisionist mentioned the death of Mihret had she not been the wife of Berakhi? There are many veteran EPLF fighters who are passing away and I have NOT seen you guys mourning their passing. The only ones you raise are the ones whose stories that you hope to capitalize on in your political campaigns.

            It was not me who started beatifying Berakhi being a man “with a big heart”, an avatar of “freedom of speech and free press” so on and so forth when the passing away of Mihret was made public.

            Such statements came straight from “The Deqi-Wushate” Revisionist of the EPLF history and from someone non other than Mahmmuday.

            If it was strictly mourning the death of a person, then one can say don’t politicize the issue here. But, when the passing away of a person is used as a crutch in the furtherance of a political campaign, that becomes a different ball game altogether.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Gheteb,
            Allow me to interject in your discussion with SAAY7 to say this:

            You said “You want the PFDJ to have allowed Petros Solomon’s mother to have visited her son who is incarcerated in an officially undisclosed prison? This is what I meant not taking the EPLF culture into consideration when people talk about access, due process and law in Eritrea.”

            Here you sound clearly washing your hands off for becoming the lawyer of a client that you known is culpable. Your client is quite, only asking for silence promising one day he will complete cleansing his environment and here you are the lawyer from a safe place far away from the scene trying to whitewashing both of you.

            You also said “Tell you what? Let alone political and other prisoners, the EPLF frowned upon any visitation by family members to EPLF fighters. I mean they didn’t want or like mothers to visit their sons/daughters who were with the EPLF as fighters.

            What you are saying here is that 26 years after independence, EPLF still rules the way it was fighting for independence, not liberating its fighters from their pledge to take all blows and to silence and not releasing its Hafash to become genuine citizen with rights, even though it has transformed itself to PFDJ to lead a sovereign people and a country. My question for you is: when do you think EPLF/PFDJ and its Head are going to finish cleansing their environment and handle the country to its owners, the Eritrean people?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay, Haile S., MS, SGJ and all,

            Do you guys actually think what ever this Gheteb is saying he believes them. He is just lying to his teeth and he has been doing it for a over a week now without getting some sleep.

            The question that I have, why and what is that he wanted to achieve?

            I personally think he is doing it on purpose and with a goal and clear objective.

            My guess is, he is hired gun by the pfdj and he is paid to do this when there is some sort of real threat coming towards the pfdj regime.

            Three important things I can relate as an example:

            1) the yPFDJ event that was cancelled and how the pfdj lost the ground
            2) Yohannes Zerai article which is action driven to weaken and dismantle the regime. There were few positive ideas and discussions
            3) the discussion with regards to Mirhet passing and the negative image is painting to the regime.

            May be you don’t agree with me, but he was able to successfully hijack the discussion and the attention of the participants from focusing on the real issue.

            He will rest his case when he knows for sure everyone else is silent and tired arguing with home endlessly.

            Berhe

          • MS

            HI BerheY
            Ghehteb displays the essence and character of a typical PFDJite. On that regard, paid or not, hired or not, he is certainly projecting the ugly face of PFDJ. I personally am forced to engage him. While MeHret Eyob represented the good of EPLF, the likes of the REAL DEQI-WUSHATE who recruit and tape Gheteb make up the bad elemental residue of EPLF. MY strategy is, while defending MeHret and BeraKi, it is to give PFDJites bruising blows. Every time they come up to tarnish the victims, they will get bruised. I will let the victims talk to them. No bragging, but Ghehteb could talk using Yoiutubes and PFDJ chatters as a basis, I will continue presenting the victims as we knew them: fine, kind, selfless, smart, loving, tireless fighters, etc. If you follow the thread, Ghehteb, if he was hired to promote or defend PFDJ, he has always done a poor job. I would fire him right away. He lacks the real deal which is REAL life experience of the events he is trying to use for augmenting the aura of his Excellency, Jailor and Abuser-in-Chief, President for life, Kboor IA, the lion of Nakfa. So, I think he has no hijacked the discussion; he has just brought a wrath on his real Deqi- WUSHATE. He will make up stories to supplement his lack of facts; we will use stories of Eritreans’ plight compiled by Eritreans and foreigners, we will Bering up the memory of the real victims. I don’t think that will be a good service for PFDJ.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi MS,

            You will “fire ‘Gheteb right away”. Yeah, but here is what you said about ‘Gheteb just about 24 hours ago.

            ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

            So, MS, which one is it about ‘Gheteb? Hired PFDJite? Paid PFDJite? Or “a megaphone?

            Yeah, which one is it? C’mon answer the question now, instead of flailing aimlessly which you are certainly ending bruising yourself and no one else.

          • MS

            Hi Gheheteb
            This is thread I would dub people versus IA; or “The Victims versus the perpetrators of crimes against humanity”; or Ghehetb Versus MeHret/BeraKi; and believe me it will continue. I (we, those who care about these two fine persons and the victims they represent) will not let a “no-face” individual to tarnish their names. Now that I said this: What’s wrong with your grammar & comprehension? I said, ” I would fire Ghehetb.” That means if I were PFDJ, I would fire YOU, since your rambling is really damaging the already ugly face of PFDJ. Since Iam not PFDJ, THOUGH, I can’t fire you. I hope you don’t argue on the megaphone thing, doing so would be unnecessary. It’s a figure of speech.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi MS,

            Don’t change the subject here. You are pointedly asked about this statement and this statement alone.

            ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

            You are saying on record that “the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu” is coming from certain sources (PFDJ) through emails and phone calls that you are saying “I can tell you”. Then you made the connection that ‘Gheteb is the megaphone who is broadcasting this “Tsehaytu” thing.

            You can try to wiggle out of this, but I consider it a serious and unfounded allegation coming from you and no amount of spinning or grammar or figure of speech is going to explain it away. NEVER! Not with me.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Berhe Y,

            I think you could have also gone for your “Kasoti” and “Testa” and your violence prone language to add in your tactics box when giving advice as how to handle ‘Gheteb in this Forum.

            Better yet, you can join the ring leader of “The Daffla Mobs”, Kibrom Dafla, so that you can end up punching and head-butting other innocent Eritreans. You know like your lowlife criminal pal, Semere Andom, has admitted of harassing old Eritrean women in Toronto.

            Think about that instead of daydreaming about the return of the Mengistu’s rule of Eritrea. How abut that Berheway?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Berhe,

            You said “… when there is some sort of real threat coming towards the pfdj regime.”

            Do you seriously believe that you are a threat to the PFDJ?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Simon,

            Do you think Isayas and PFDJ are going to stay in power for ever.

            It you believe the pfdj is invincible, the most caword group, the lowest of a man kind, then you need to think again.

            Guess what you going to respond “why don’t you go and fight them back”.

            Killing your own people and taking your country to civil war and destroy everything is for coward people like you.

            I will guarantee one thing for you, you will see the pfdj disappear from the face of the earth.

            Berhe

    • Haile Zeru

      Hi all,

      It is better to be tribalist than a cult worshiper of one man DIA. In the first case it is about a group of people which can easily encamps a country. In the second case it is raising a mortal to the status of god. Which is a dead end.
      May the real God have mercy on you Gheteb. You are a living dead.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Haile Zerai,
        Human beings go through natural process of socio-economic development. At one stage they have a tribe. Now, considering the nation state is a new construct of social irganization, how is a nation depicted as a superior organization? Aren’t they both social organization with their own laws and customs?

        It is only the empty minds who try to vilify tribes as if being a member of a tribe is a crime, when they extol the aggression on individual and communal freedoms. Unfortunately, tyrants and their tentacles pretend not to know that, because it is a threat to the continuation of their ubdridled violations. All respect to tribes irrespective of what the PFDJ tribe plans–to substitute Eritrean tribe with their mega criminal tribe.

        • Hagos Kahsay

          Hi Saleh,

          Good one! PFDJ tribe=Tigrinya tribe=Criminal tribe.

          I bet that will please Haile zzzzz and help the struggle for “justice”.

          • Saleh Johar

            Selam Hagos,

            Please do not insert your words appended to mine. “Tigrinya tribe” is your term. I know the PFDJ tribe is made of Eritreans, regardless of their tribes or proportions. Don’t you thing “PFDJ tribe” is not enough and you want to legitimize it as a Tigrinya tribe? The PFDJ has revoked its Eritrean identity when it betrayed the struggle and deformed it into thuggery.

            For all I know it could be made up of aliens, who have no trace of Eritrean norms, or compassion–they are not even from outer pace, but from the inner magma filled space, miles below the surface of the earth. They do not belong to any Eritrean tribe of region that I know of.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Abu Salah,

          Those who advocate for “individual rights” only, are those who oppose “group rights”. Tribes are small social groups or units that make what a nation could be defined from it, depending on their socio-economic developments. So keep your eye on those who oppose group rights, they are from the same political arguments. A nation is a modern social construct by creating social bonds within the social groups for the common good of the people inscribed within that entity.

          Regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

        • Haile Zeru

          Hello Saleh,
          Sorry for the late response. I see the posts every now and then, but due to my work I am not at liberty to write as much as I wish.
          I agree with you. Gheteb (Gatz alebu) is trying to insult me by saying tribalist.
          I will add few points to what you are saying above. This guy and his likes do not ask themselves who was ensuring the safety of the person/individual from the ravages of Wubie, the hords of Ras Alula, the Turks from the Red sea Semhar side, and Egyptians from Sudan? They want to toss away all the past history (600 years and more) of the society and the way it was structured/organized to defend itself.
          Tribes could be large but we can say it is made up of many families. Basically Eritrea is made up of many tribes. many nationalities and many, many families.
          They (EPLF/PFDJ) made the name of the society/community/tribe an insult. The next social unit that is victimized by PFDJ is definitely is the family. I am sure everyone of you realizes that an Eritrean father (inside Eritrea) is completely effaced. He breads to feed an army, soldiers, that go to fight wars that we do not know what for and for whose interest. Does any father have any say about his son/daughter’s future in Eritrea? One can say yes, he can plan their way to cross the boarder to Sudan or Ethiopia and hopefully to the western world then he can think of their future. Not when they are inside Eritrea. Inside Eritrea they are owned by the “state”.
          As you can see an individual when faced by the brute force of a brute “state” there is no one to defend him. The family cannot defend him/her. The Tribe cannot. The law, there is none. His own legs and brain hopefully s/he will cross the border.

          It is not because of genealogy that I am saying this guy does not belong to the decent Eritrean character that we grew up to know. This crass character is completely un-Eritrean and in Human.
          I have to add that the clique that is governing Eritrea is made up of this kind of persons
          In a way it is not bad he is writing. He is giving us a window to the mind of his master, DIA and his minions.

    • MS

      Selma Ghehteb
      1. I’m very sorry to read this cold attitude of your comment. You can be as defensive as you could possibly be to IA, but you can do it within a morally acceptable manner. What is the point of beating a man who has no power to say a word to you?
      2. You saw BeraKi in 1977 in Keren. That could be true because BeraKi commanded one of the brigades that had liberated Keren, Brigade 70. You see he was there in the thick, dear Ghehteb.
      3. Then how is it that you have suddenly changed your position and have become a “Jebhawi” or Jebhaji” or ELFite? Of course he said “Amma” in 1977, but when he was a Minster of information, 18 years later, he was a changed man. That’s not what “Demi WushaTe” are saying; it is an assessment of the journalists who were employed in that sector who are attesting this fact. People change. BeraKi was said to be the right man of IA during the years you saw him in Karneshim; he also is said to have changed and evolved with time. During the eighties, BeraKi evolved into a fatherly figure, and together with Romadan he was assigned to develop laws of future Eritrea; when Eritrea got liberated, he pushed for the spirit of the political program that he had fought for; he was transformed into a statesman; he encouraged IA to openly address public grievances; he pushed for constitutional governance; he advocated for managed democratization process, introducing free press, local elections…You see, you see a man who had evolved, from a testy and confrontational EPLFite to a statesman.
      4. He is now in prison for the last 16 years, he has a family, dear Ghehteb, and as a human being the least you can do is not tarnish the character of a man who can’t defend himself. Dear Ghehteb, the way we discuss about defenseless people say a lot about our character. You don’t need to suddenly glorify Wedi Tesfai Temnewo; you don’t need to suddenly make drastic shifts such as insinuating that you are the defender of ELF, the nemesis of your IA; you don’t need that.
      5. You can just do what honorable people do in such a situation: desist from character assassinating of figures who can’t defend themselves. An attitude that defends the imprisonment of the frail and the defenseless does not have moral high ground to pontificate about CHARACTER. A person who condones impunity, a person who reduces the sacrifices of Eritreans to one Man, a person who mocks the defenseless could not expected to present himself to a level that the occasion demands, but at least I would expect him to be aware of his language. Whatever one’s past is you would be expected to say “Het the man deserves a day in court.”.
      6. If BeraKi and the people who lived around him were to be called “Deqi Wushate” (in the derisive sense you used, very lowly, at that), I don’t know what we are going to call someone who, well, forget it. Deqi Wushate was a backward expression given to women, who were expected to occupy and control the inner part of the Tigrigna traditional home. It was meant to belittle women. So, all the brave transportation, education, communication, Garages, intelligence, construction, agriculture, administrations….were “Deqi Wushate”? Sorry, to tell you, but it only confirms my believe that you know EPLF and the field through the seminars and pamphlets only. Any given tegadalay might through the years gone from those departments to combat role, back to those departments…etc.; he/she might have changed departments horizontally…
      7. What’s going on Ghehteb? Could not you just present some thing to the effect of SILENCE? Silence is powerful my friend. If you don’t have to say something that enhances your position of blind support for the depot who is menacing our beloved country, you just observe silence. The dead, the frail, the vulnerable, the defenseless, the voiceless also have soul; they do, dear Ghehteb. I’m sorry, but I have to tell you you are very wrong.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam MS,

        To begin, I found your comment to be nothing short of being meanderingly discruive rejoinder. You are all over the place, true to form, straddling to cover as much space as possible. Sometimes exhotatively hectoring while at other time self-righteously and sanctinomously pontificating. You have eschewed the issues and the facts I have raised in my note. However, you opted to take the tack of a moralizing tone and ended up proffering some platitudinous piffle, to put it mildly!

        (1) You are spaeking about doing it “you can do it within a morally acceptable manner”. Whose morality are you invoking here, MS? Those of “Deqi-Wushate” and the Anti-PFDJ lots who brought the death of Mihret and her husband’s incarceration to cynically extract poltical mileage and score some political brownie points. I have NOT brought the issue; I have merely countered with a counter-narrative that shattered the false narratives that are peddled by the revisionism of “Deqi-Wushate” and those anti-PFDJ lots.

        Yeah, what morality are you talking about here? The morality of having your cake and eating it too? You bring an issue in an effort of milking it politically and when that false narrative is challenged, then you want to MORTIFY by calling on “morality”. Simply put, your invokation of morality here stinks to high heaven with hypocisy.

        (2) Sure, Berakhi even before 1977, was the political commissar of Ibrahim Affa’s battalion and now you are saying he was the commander of Brigade 70. Wow! That is an earth shattering revelation, MS. And, exactly what was Berakhi’s role in the liberation of Keren in 1977? Where were you when the city of Keren was liberated?

        I was right there observing minutely starting from the epic battle of Lalmba just days before the battle for the liberation of Keren commenced. Throught most of the battle, I was in Keren witnessing it all and the battle continued for a day or two after I left to QuniE and later to Halib Mentel. My recollections of the events and even most of minutea of the battle as narrated by those EPLF fighters who partook in that operatio, to put it mildly, is prodigiously colossal.

        I can go on and on yarning the going-ons of that epic battle for the liberation of Keren, but it will take more than ten notes to cover it. Suffice it to say that, you are verily out of your elements here and please tell the false narrative about “Berakhi being in the thick of the battle for the liberation of Keren” to someone who doesn’t know beans about the annals of the EPLF’s war chronicles.

        (3) No, I have NOT turned to “Jebhawi” or Jebhaji” or ELFite. The fact that Berakhi’s presentation was utterly bereft of substance and in contrast Mohammed Nur Baho’s expanation were lucid and substantive, is a testament to the keeness of observation and does NOT signify to ones fealty to either the ELF or the EPLF.

        You also speak about “Berakhi” being a changed man. Really? When did he change? In 1980, 81,82,83,84,85?? Or right at the end of 86 or the beggining of 1987, after the second congress of the EPLF’s clandestine party, the EPRP, when he was SIDELINED, I mean literally cashiered along with others from the inner workings of the EPLF, not having access to Isaias’s ear to end up with Ramadan Mohammed Nur in the ‘Justice Department’ of the EPLF trying to write ‘Sivilawin and Gebenawin Higitat’. From the Ministry of Information to an ambassador to Germany to complete the disgrace of falling from power.

        Berakhi and company’s anti-PFDJ and anti-Isaias campaigns of the 1999-2001, was NOT becuase they all of sudden had an epiphany about democratic ideals and democratic governance. Their beef was that they were SIDELINED and no longer had the confidence of Isaias and were forced to play second fiddle to the young and upcoming stars of the ” New Blood. That was to the whole G-13 or G-15 saga. No amount of revisionism and beatifying campaigns by certain journalsts is going to change these glaring facts about Berakhi and his associates in the G-15.

        (4) You also wrote admonishingly ” the least you can do is not tarnishing the character of a man who can’t defend himself. Dear Ghehteb, the way we discuss about defenseless people say a lot about our character”.

        How did I “tarnish the character of a man who can’t defend himself”? I have stated known FACTS about a person who was publicly in the EPLF leadership. I have NOT spoken about his charcter nor did I even attempt of impuging it. These facts are not personal stuff, but are gleaned from my own personal observations and those that are publicly available.

        You can try to refute them, however trying to shame and embarss ‘Gheteb is tantamount to a fool’s errand.

        Oh, please. Where did I do all of these?

        “You don’t need to suddenly glorify Wedi Tesfai Temnewo; you don’t need to suddenly make drastic shifts such as insinuating that you are the defender of ELF, the nemesis of your IA; you don’t need that”.

        I have done none of that and what you wrote amounts to an implausibly ridiculous cockamamie attempt at rebuttal. Please, try something else.

        (5) Here you go again, accusing me of character assasinating someone and you went on sermonizing to finally end up committing the straw man’s fallacy by bringing up the baseless accusation that I have reduced the Eritrean struggle to the benefit “IA”. Astounding, indeed! Why do you need to such a lengthy diatribe of emotional blackmailing when you could have shown and proven how I have character assasinated Berakhi.

        I don’t think you can come up with response that shows I was involved in character assasination here. Your failure to do so was what prompted you to resort to this moralizing fulmination.

        (6) Here you are trying mightily to parry and fend of the felicitous depiction of the REVISIONIST narrations of “Deqi- Wushate” by shamelessly going to overgeneralization and even as going as low as saying, hey ‘Gheteb, you were not in the Eritrean field and you did not answer the call of duty. So, you need to SHUT UP as we ( The Deqi-Wushates) go about REVISING the EPLF’s history to fit our anti-PFDJ agendas.

        Better yet, come on and join our one-fiddle tune of the Cultist IA followers, blame everything on Isaias and repeat the refrain that we want anyone but Isaias (ABI).

        In the process we are going to beatify and canonize those EPLF leaders who were sidelined and finally cashiered in our anti-PFDJ campaigns and will cynically manipulate the death of a 65 years old former EPLF fighter in order to win support of Eritreans because we can offer the Eritrean people an alternative vision or a coherent nationalist political program. That being the case, those who bring up FACTS that run counter to the false narratives that we are trying to peddle here, we have no other option but to go for the nuclear option of emotional blackmailing and emabrassement.

        That, in a nutshell, is what you are attempting to do here.

        (7) Here is the ultimate proof of what I wote in (6). You want my “SILENCE” and those of others who may bring inconvient truths to the false narratives of repristinating the images of the likes of Berakhi so as the revisionist narrations of the EPLF’s history by “the Deqi-Wushate” to be sold WHOLESALE.

        Well, refuting my assertions is one thing, going on a full-blown broadside quite another. Stick to the points I have raised.

        • Aron

          Hi Gheteb,
          What are you saying, was calling ELF Amma a crime in those days.
          What were you implying by the mention Tsehaitu Beraki.
          In the G 15 mild criticism they were calling for rule of law if you may call it criticism at all. How does that par with a coo.
          When ms said Beraki was in the thick in Keren you wrote a lot about how you were in there observing but you did not say he was not there. Are you saying he was not good Tegadaly.
          Don’t you think if he did some crime he should have been charged and be allowed to defend himself.
          Assuming he is guilty of something, considering his contribution to Eritrea’s independence don’t you think he deserves some kind of clemency from his highness since there is no other way to get his freedom other than his majesty’s forgiveness.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Aron,

            My apologies for not responding earlier.

            No, calling the ELF Amma was not a crime, but when you hear someone in a leadership position saying Amma, Amma, Amma, it becomes an issue why this person is using it repeatedly.

            Tsehaitu Beraki was a nickname or Sagua given to Berakhi by EPLF fighters to Berakhi.

            G-15, there is a lot more that you and me don’t know as it is a sensitive national security issue. It can’t be addressed publicly without revealing state secrets.

            As I said, we are not privy to the seriousness of the charges that Berakhi and company are standing accused of. Without knowing the details, it hard for me whether they deserve a clemency or not.

          • Aron

            Hi Gheteb,
            Thanks for the response.
            I am honestly trying to understand what your beef is with Beraki here. Is the reference to his sagua meant to be derogatory or what is it. Was he feminine.
            The man had been disappeared for long time and to this day no one knows what his crime or sin is. It is not good for the government to have absolute power on its citizens, Prosecutors jury and all. I read all what you wrote and in some kind of way you are trying to draw a negative picture about Beraki but I still haven’t got it. He made it to Asmara and was high government official for many years. Why are you going back to 1977. Isaias conspired with TPLF to push ELF out and you still haven’t got anything but respect for him.
            The man says ama which was common in those days in EPLF cadres propaganda including nsu and he deserves to be be hanged. Do you honestly believe he would say such a thing without nsu’ permission anyway.

        • Selamat Gheteb,

          “Cotton picking mind?” Care to explain what that is? Or should I file it under Racist Gheteb in the Winthrop Files?

          tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tsa Tse,

            Not at all and let us not go literal here. Here is what is meant by this very Adjective.

            cotton-picking
            adjective [North American informal]

            used for emphasis, especially with disapproval or reproach.

            “just a cotton-picking minute

            You see, Tsa Tse, I am doing all of this not because that I have something to be fearful of in “The Winthrop Files” or, get this, “The Winspear Ave. Documents”!

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            tSintSuay tSinsya sbHi gedifka AAbi biEray teHardela Ab Adi Shrumm enehalekha Ab kedameyti tsuHufka above.

            You may have fooled most if not all. I know exactly what this has all been about and is. I prefer the Winthrop Files!

            I will extend you more rope. No no duck tape, we have agrees Wyatt zeybilu. Carry on!

            tSAtSE

        • MS

          Selam Ghehteb
          I will just respond to number 2. The rest are all self-defeating rambling. Yes, he was deputy commander of Brigade 70 in the battle of Keren. If that is a revelation to you, it is not to the people who know him. And believe me, you are not going to get away with your FALSE assertion that I have made it up, because Beraki was captured in film while conducting the battle of Keren. It is sad that we are debating on issues that are documented, but if it should take going that low, I can prove that.
          Start at 27:10, right at the placard that reads “KEREN”, you will see Ibrahim, who was leading the battle, next you will see Beraki on the radio.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7phn-JWtk0
          And yes, there was a brigade called 70. Another revelation for you, EPLF reorganized its military in brigades right after the liberation of Nakfa and Afabet (1977). Beraki was later assigned to the Revolution School. In addition to this, Beraki also chaired the committee that coordinated ELF/EPLF relations; and later EPLF and Sagem. After the Second Congress, he was transferred to the newly formed Justice Department and served as Deputy to Romadan.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam MS,

            You can continue your erroneous assumptions about me and you can believe whatever you want. And you can even make it sound as if I denied the fact or didn’t know that there was a brigade 70 in the EPLF. What I asked you this and let me quote what I wrote:

            ” exactly what was Berakhi’s role in the liberation of Keren in 1977? Where were you when the city of Keren was liberated”?

            You previously said that “That could be true because BeraKi commanded one of the brigades that had liberated Keren, Brigade 70”.

            Yeah, right. Before you said “Beraki commanded Brigade 70″ and now you are saying that he was ” he was deputy commander of Brigade 70 in the battle of Keren”.

            I have asked you to back up your claims that Berakhi was one of the known commanders of the EPLA who in the thick of it and I don’t think you can make the case simply because he was NOT.

            I don’t think you can defend what you have written yesterday and I think you are now reduced to saying ” I will just respond to number 2. The rest are all self-defeating rambling”.

            You made claims and when challenged to defend your claims, here you are trying to wiggle out by describing the challenge as “rambling”? How could that be when you even fail to answer simple questions like ” where were you in 1977 when the city of Keren was liberated?

            Hearing about the liberation of Keren is one thing, being there throughout it and then having talked to those fighters who participated quite another.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Gheteb,

            I think you desire to acknowledge poor Eritreans that you and your master have liberated Eritrea single handed, and all you own it now. What is requested from poor Eritreans except to succumb to your master whims. I think the authenticated certificate, crimes against humanity, you have gotten from UN is enough and more to label criminals like you.

            Al-Arabi

          • MS

            Selma Ghehteb
            It is excoriating to see how politely Saleh Younis is walking along with your arrogant and cold attitudes. There are two expressions in Tigre that I believe fit the moment.
            1. Berjego= means saltless or tasteless. People use this expression when they encunter folks who lack a sense of inhibition as to what and how to present their argument in a given social setting (jokes, condolences, arrogance, self-aggrandizement, bravado, acute defensiveness, expressions of insecurities…all do have places and mannerism in which they are displayed). We are talking about a man whose crime you have admitted we don’t know (your reply to Aron). The basic expectation from anyone worth a word is to say “That’s wrong, the man needs to be brought to a court, he has a right to present his case in front of a judge (defend himself); the government has an obligation to prove that BeraKi is indeed a criminal that should be denied the light of the day…” This is what reasonable people are expected to say. It does not matter what Beraki’s role in the battle of Keren was, any other roles that he might have assumed. Even criminals who massacred people in broad day light deserve justice.
            2. Ikejl kjello eglue: That saying is invoked when seeing shameless individuals who want to compliment their lack of facts by stacking weird and archaic expressions and adjectives. Whatever archaic expressions and adjectives you may stack (you may as well pile them up as high as the moon is, and if they shoot by the moon to the heavens that may give you satisfaction, that’s, in your delusional and illogic mindset. Aliek Allah ya Ghehteb tell us what your role was before asking the roles of BeraKi. You just have no bearing to challenge BeraKi, he is beyond you and your Monkeys (The REAL DEQI WUSHATE” Mind, you not the Eritrean woman but the real Deqi WUSHATE. You are written off, because you don’t even rise to the role of the real Deqi WUSHATE, the Yemanes, Kishas, and what have you. So what was your role Ghehteb? Tell us. You require others to reveal what role they played in a certain event without bothering to reveal your role.
            It does not matter where I was during the battle of Keren (if I did not participate in the battle of Keren, I participated in many other battles, but that’s not the point); it does not even mattter if I heard it in Biet Timherti Sawra, because my life did not start with Biet Tmhrti Sara and certainly did not end there. Biet Temhrti Sawra and all the tegadelti who you labeled Deqi WUSHATE were closer to the story of the battle, and to the story of EPLF than you have ever been according to the time line you had given this forum about yourself. Even the mothers who were in the “refugee camp in Sahel (ends hzbi) were closer to the events to the EPLA than you; the civilians who were delivering supplies and evacuating the wounded were more closer than you to BeraKi and the battle, we can go on and on. But again what was your role dear Ghehteb? What we know is the following:
            1. There is a character that goes by the nick “Ghehteb” who is asking BeraKi “Hey what was your role?” And BeraKi is asking back “Excuse me, who are you?” The Ghehteb thing is trying regurgitate what he collected from you tubes, PFDJ community centers and PFDJ cyber chatters. BeraKi is looking at this Ghehteb thing straight in the eyes, holding his walki-talkie and tell him, “There I’m. Now would you mind to tell me who you are and what your role was in Kere?” Ghehteb has nothing to say except stirring up dust and meandering over what he has collected over years in search of a place within the grand EPLF narration. Through those piercing eyes, BeraKi is telling you that you are lying.
            2. BeraKi needs no glorifying. His record is in the minds of people who sweated and bled along his side. What is interesting is you lack of knowledge of EPLF parlance. It is something when you read the role of commissioners in communist military history, but it’s quiet different when you describe the word “commissar” as practiced by the EPLF. In the EPLF the commander and the commissar played almost the same role, technically, the commissar was a Deputy, but in real life, deputies commanded their respective units independently or in cooperation with the “Commander”. Usually, Commissars were more educated and they were active in political and ideological activities, but when it comes in conducting war, both ran battles while consulting and discussing the next moves, laterally and vertically. So, yes, in that battle and other battles, BeraKi was commanding his brigade. But, then, what was your role dear Ghehteb?
            Knowing EPLF through you tubes, pamphlets and seminars is different than living it my friend. I live with BeraKi and I know him better than you.
            In one of your comments you asked when did BeraKi change, and then list years? Are you OK my friend. Are we going to waste time on how people change? Am I going to say” Oh, yeah, he changed on Monday 1988 at 2359:59? Please don’t get redundant. Most of the arrogance you display comes from your blind love of IA, and the lack of REAL knowledge to explain that; it’s insecurity that is driving you my friend. You want to compliment your lack of knowledge of REAL life in the field by piling up archaic adjectives and stirring up dust to make up that weakness. You can love IA, but you have no right to tarnish the personality of individualities who gave up what life could have afforded them while you ran away in search of that good life. And now without any sense of inhibition, you are trying to position yourself as defending EPLF, while attacking the people who paid the real deal in building EPLF (of course, I’m talking about BeraKi and his group, all those have been thrown in the dungeons, kidnapped from everywhere in the name of “ELFites, jihadists, sub nationalists, defeatists, treason…name it). It’s mind boggling to see a PFDJ that has derailed the ideals of Eritreans and EPLF now positioning itself as defending EPLF? But again what was your role Ghehteb? Have you come with anything yet?
            Concerning myself, I’ve repeatedly said I was an EPLF tegadalay, I never stretched for recognition, I never tried to imposter someone I was not. MeHret Eyob and BeraKi were my mentors, friends, teachers, comrades, confidantes, they were the big brother and big sister I missed so much. And everything I say is to their memory and to the memory of every selfless tegadelti and tegadalay I had an opportunity to live and work with. We sweated and bled together. We carry the scars (physical and psychological, we went through the thin and thick; they were there when I needed them, when I was in my lowest emotional state, when I really needed them. I’m here to defend them when they need me. Their role is public. I do it for personal satisfaction that I have not let them down when someone crossed boundaries to attack their person and the essence they represented. MeHret represented the good of tegadalay Ertra. BeraKi, as a public figure and politician could not be expected to be perfect. But he is forgiven by most Eritreans by the stances he took at the end of his political career. Most Eritreans who were involved in the struggle know BeraKi’s role. Again, what was your role, dear Ghehteb?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam MS,

            It doesn’t matter to me what you did or didn’t do in those years. Believe whatever you want and you can regurgitate Tigre words or expressions till the cows come home. You can even go and talk whatever comes to your mind about “the character ‘Gheteb who uses ” weird and archaic expressions and adjectives”. You can even go and accuse me of being arrogant, heartless, cruel and whatever may make you feel good. That is fine with me.

            You can even go and ask and demand what ‘Gheteb’s role was with the EPLF and that is OK, too. You can go on writing about other extraneous and emotional stuff until you run out of things to say. It is even okay with me if you try to avoid the salient points I raised in my note and make ‘Gheteb the issue. That is all fine and dandy. As I said before, I am a nobody and never, ever claimed to be someone that I wasn’t.

            However, challenging POLITICAL OPPORTUNISTS and the revisionism of the EPLF as practiced by “The Deqi-Wushate” doesn’t require a certificate from anyone and that includes you and those who are in the business of revising the EPLF history so that you can end up canonizing and repristinating the images of the likes of Berakhi in your futile anti-PFDJ campaigns.

            I know now and I am convinced you have absolutely nothing to offer and you have abysmally failed to even defend your own assertions and claims, let alone to address and challenge the points I have been raising. Simply, you can’t. Hence all the FACTLESS and EMOTIONAL blather you have been reduced to mouth ad nauseam.

            I have NOT said Yemane Gebreab has a “BIG HEART” or “small heart”, I have not said that ‘Hagos Kisha “stands for freedom of speech” or Yemane G/Meskel is a “changed man” or that “PIA is such a statesman”. You are the one in record who have been saying about Berakhi in your revisionist renditions a la “The Deqi- Wushate” in your effort of beatifying Berakhi. When I challenged you, here you are parading the fact that you know absolutely NOTHING about the revisionist stuff you have barfed.

            You gotta know what this “nobody ‘Gheteb” is capable of in exposing POLITICAL OPPORTUNISTS in whatever covers they come and however they try camouflage their revisionist and opportunistic political outlook by resorting to Tigre expressions. You can’t hide your failure to back up your claims by hiding behind certain Tigre expressions or words. You simply CAN’T.

            You were asked pointedly in English and you have failed to answer them and opted to hide behind ” ‘Gheteb this and ‘Gheteb that”. If you had even a soupcon of corroborating facts, you would have brought it up. But you didn’t. Hence your unwarranted talking about me, as if I was the issue!

            Now that I know that you know bupkis about the issues I raised, why are you avoiding to answer the following statement about me? I am expecting an answer.

            ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

          • MS

            Dear Ghehtab
            I intend to make this one my last exchange with you on this thread.
            1. I’m confident that by now the reader has gained knowledge about these two remarkable persons. It does not matter if you could not glean the qualities you are asking for from the replies SAAY, and many others, including myself, have given to the forum. I’m not writing to convince you. I’m writing to inform the readers about these two fine human beings and through their story, to illustrate how PFDJ has turned Eritrean and EPLF narrative upside down- from one for human dignity to a predatory state. You have no moral high ground to question BeraKi’s role. Period.
            2. What is more mind boggling is the temerity you have shown to be the interrogator-in-chief. You keep asking about the role of BeraKi, a prominent EPLF official, without disclosing your role. Now, then, what was your role Ghehteb in the battle of Keren. You belittle and dismiss the contribution of Eritrean tegadelti at an amazingly reckless rate without telling us what it is that makes you outshine them. So, it is a simple question. What was your role. Take whatever time you need, but please say something about it.
            REASON: You made combat role as a centeral basis for your argument that BeraKi was a no-man. And I’m saying if that is how you judge the totality of a person then show us your role, or simply say you were “nay WUSHATE-WUSHATE”. Then we may settle for intelligent discussion. I don’t downplay the role of our mass organizations during the struggle, and I have affirmed that in many of my discussions here and in some articles I penned. I would not question your role as active Hafash Wudub, I would thank you for that. But you are jumping your gun to tarnish BeraKi making your basis the requirement of combat role. Well, then eneho feres, enemy golgol, bring on your feres. What was your role? I intend to come back if I feel so.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi MS,

            As I said before, I have come to the conclusion that you virtually nothing to add about the issues I raised in my note. I am not interested to know anything else you want to say about this issue at all.

            I am, however, intent on to find out what you have to say about this serious statement you have written some 24 hours ago.

            ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

            Spare me of all the other stuff, and just respond and explain what you meant by that statement. That is all I want to know and nothing else!

          • MS

            Ahlan Ghehteb
            For the last 72 hours or so, you have been on a blitzkrieg of tarnishing the names of patriots. You never cared to establish why you felt you had the right to pile accusations on innocent individuals, despite repeated calls on you to prove that you are in fact a person who could have any closeness to Beraki. You declined to tell us what your role was when you shamelessly attacked the role of Beraki. Now, a figure of speech, megaphone has caused you so much irritation. You see how sensitive and reactive you are. You cared so much about your image, an image that very few people know, if at all, while desecrating the faces of publicly known heroes. No, I want answer your question until you answer mine. What was your role Jigna Ghehteb in the battle of Keren?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi MS,

            Here is what you need to address and don’t try to change the subject. You made the allegation and not Mihret or Berakhi.

            ” I know where the chatters for invoking Tsehaytu comes from, and I can tell you that many emails and phones have been made within the last 24 hours. Ghehteb is the nothing but a megaphone”.

            Better yet, check the top of the screen for a detailed explanation is rendered about your outrageously baseless accusation.

            You better address it as I promise you that I don’t take this kind of accusations lightly nor am I the person who is going to be fatigued by your beating around the bush in this case or talking about other stuff. It won’t go away and this will follow you like your shadow.

          • MS

            Ahlan Ghehteb,
            Go back to my last reply.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi MS,

            You got caught making an utterly false and a totally made-up accusation which I know you can never defend in this Forum or Publicly in an open court. You were challenged to substantiate your baseless allegation about me, but I know you can’t because you made up the allegation and you were caught LYING!

            You can attempt at hiding behind Berakhi/Mihert to cover-up your baseless accusation of me which I take seriously.

            Rest assured that your baseless accusation is recorded and I will NEVER forget it nor will I pass any opportunity of reminding you and bringing it up on any occasion soon or even after many years. You can bank on this statement and good bye I have nothing to say to you until you confess to your lies.

          • MS

            Ahlan Ghehteb
            Please do so, make sure it is in a permanent red ink. I’m glad you will NEVER forget it because I will have a reminder from you. I’m a forgiving person. I forget things and move on. While you record my statement in RED INK, please think of the following:
            The children of BeraKi and his friends will ask you, ” Why did you have to do that?” Also brace yourself for that awful question that you have been dodging: What was your role in the battle of Keren Jigna Ghehteb? What makes you feel entitled to desecrate the names of individuals who had done everything they could to liberate Eritrea? You bet, the children and friends of Beraki and all those who have been the victims of your despicable PFDJ will NEVER forget that.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet
            Now that My dear friend Gheteb said his goodbyes, it is safe for me to tell you the role he played in the liberating of Keren.
            His role was to be liberated except he forgot to say ” thanks”
            I hope I’m safe.

          • Ismail AA

            Indeyet senebetu tanashu gashe abi,
            Gosh yene wendm! What an astute observation. It fits the conclusion of monotonouns debate that inundated this forum.

          • tes

            Selam MS,

            When I read this between your lines:

            I’m here to defend them when they need me. Their role is public. I do it for personal satisfaction that I have not let them down when someone crossed boundaries to attack their person and the essence they represented.

            I want to express my appreciation at this moment. Defend your comrades. Do not let these cowards like Gheteb to be more ignorant. The more we let them gallop on their own fabricated history the more we will lose our collective values.

            I thank you. At this time you are becoming a sane justice seeker. I think you came out as an emancipated Tegdalay in 2017.

            tes

          • MS

            Dear tes
            With all do you respect, I don’t like adjectives. I do believe I have to continue improving everyday. Everyday is an opportunity for learning.
            Regarding Mehret: I read your pleas to come up with an article. I had a plan, and actually gathered my thoughts within the first 24 hours. Then Ghehteb came from his known corners with a vicious attack on Beraki; the rest you have seen it. I’m doing the best I could and I don’t think I could come up with any better article at this time. But her memory is with us, and I promise someday when the atmosphere is right, I will dedicate something to her. I can’t tell you when, and it will not be in the form of eulogy.
            Regards.

          • tes

            Selam MS,

            I will appreciate anything you do on behalf. Writing an article is the least I can demand from you. But please do something worth. My call is not to politicize Mihret’s death but to record her struggle.

            Awate Team did a wonderfull job by writing an article about Mihret. It is the voice of the voiceless in a strictly political manner.

            I expect from you historical accounts, her personalities and humanity. I believe you can organize a big event on her name. Just come together with your comrades.

            tes

          • Selamat MS,

            Gheteb is utilizing you to legitimize his “in The Know” claim so that he can cast doubts on other matters.
            Gheteb is like a brother to me, I am only waiting to be certain on his mo as well as rational for having such extremely weird position. For example, I could ask Gheteb if in fact he has grown as a person with time and experience to espouse a more just political position since Winthrop Days? The same rational you(MS) tried to convey to him regarding The Eritrean Prisoner of Conscience Berakhi’s from Keren 1977 (the lies of Gheteb-Jebhawi’s peddled a speech in Keren, Berakhi’ Amma and The Kushuf that cannot be substantiated) to the Statesman Berakhi’s refusal to shut down Eritrea’s Press and immediately lossing favor from “wushaTTe.” But, I have my reasons to be cautious and first be certain before redirecting the full onslought of Abu Ashera Weapon X and flow down a wide boulevard obliterating Gheteb’s Chicanery with the ferocity of the Falls of Niagra.

            I will take this moment to thank AT and Artist Gemal Sengal for the due respect they have shown the Deceased MiHret Eyob with their presentation of this editorial.

            And the derbies of hinderances, meant to stifle the in-depth views by Eritreans and friends with integrity, will soon be collected and cleared from the roads of progress to Be INCINERATED into ashes as there is no recyclable redeeming quality for the sort of GhetebRUBBISH.
            [Winthrop Files to be CERTAIN. Chance and plea for healthy shopping at the Farm of Wilson.]

            Make a STAND on 17!

            Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Tsa Tse,

            You say ” (the lies of Gheteb-Jebhawi’s peddled a speech in Keren, Berakhi’ Amma and The Kushuf that cannot be substantiated).

            Prove that what I have written about the 1977 Tsehaytu Berkhi’s speech in that compound in Keren’s Geza Wereqet Orthodox Tewahodo church compound were “lies”. Yeah, do that and show that it was nothing more than a ” GhetebRUBBISH”. Bragging is one thing and disproving something quite another.

            Use your Winthrop files, the Winspear Documents and you can also add The Dartmouth Notes while enjoying anything you buy not from Farm of Wilson, but from Wilson’s Farm, and you will earn TOPS rewards!

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            [THIRTY FIVE CENTS VENDINGBMACHINE COFFEE.
            BITS AND BYTES. Note to the readers particularly the VESTED. The detailed story telling is NOT due to vanity. At least not entirely, if any. It is also not to degrade or agrandize Gheteb person/friend. It is rather my utilization of a unique vantage point to give rational and insight to A TRUTH of UNDERSTANDING the ERITREAN POLITICAL REALIT for the ultimate and inevitable UNIFIED PROGRESSIVE AND RAPID FORWARD MOVEMENT. I humbly ask all to hold on presumptions pre judgements, and insist we focus on the TRUTH revealed. I also, request, The Yohanns Zerrai “Hit Them Wher It Hurts” is NOT utilized on me. You would only be hurting and bringing pain to YOUR CAUSE. The in parts address to Gheteb, will conclude by linking poignantly, to The Beit Timhrti Sewra, The Educator Wife of Ambasador Teg Berakhi-The Eritrean Prisoner of Conscience, The Deceased Teg MiHret Eyob.]

            First allow me to apologize for stating that you have “peddled a lie” when describing or telling the story of your experiences with Tegadalay Berakhi, who has a Political Prisoner of Concience for Sixteen Years and Counting. You are right Gheteb, I cannot disprove your account of your experiences of Teg Berakhi immediately after the liberation of Keren in 1977 and in Zagir in 1978. On a second thought, I am now more prone to believe your narrative in it’s entirety.

            After weighing it against the mounds of data (All The Tonowanda, Chictowaga, Hamburg, Niagra, Baily, Main etc FILES) which I compiled for nearly Six years, sitting on my square table work station in the lobby lounge right outside The Registrars-RECORDS AND REGISTRATIONS. Every single day, for no less than Six to Eight Hours, spending Three to Four Dollars on THIRTY FIVE CENTS per miniature cup vending machine coffee and chain smoking a whole pack of Marlboro Lights.

            In the Rough Buff! Winters, much like the Wolverines of the Great Lakes and Plains of the Midwest, I would with all physical and Mental pedals, I would tried very high-knee to waste deep mounds of fresh white snow flakes , intermittent puddles of piericing cold and wet slush, gliding accross stretches of slippery Black Ice, with a steady feet averting catastrophic falls, hurdeling over frozen boulders of old snow, shielding where possible from the skinn numming cold wind. A Thousand Razer Blade Sharp extremely cold winds, which with vengeance froze and threatened to sever both ears and nose from face. grudgingly witpurposeful intent to appoint my sensory organs as permanent fixture of The Streets Buffalo. The WINDS would then EQUITABLY spread the accross the
            the Two and a Half to Three/Four/Five or more Miles from Off Campus Housing for the cross campus Blue Bird stopps. And spread the

      • tes

        Selam Mahmud Saleh,

        When I read this, “What is the point of beating a man who has no power to say a word to you? , I can understand why victims of IA are victims without no one to defend for their rights. Can’t you defend Beraki instead of saying like that? What an irony is this.

        EPLF and now PFDJ has one unique strategy to victimize its individual members: it arrests them, then their accusation is spoken to wider audience, and the audience say, “they could have committed crimes”. By then everybody keeps silent expecting the victim to come out and defend for him/herself. I am sensing this kind of feelings from you.

        Why?

        You know Mihret, you know Beraki

        And now you saying that a man who can not defend for himself?

        tes

        • MS

          Selma tes,
          I believe I have been doing that for the last few days, since the death of MeHret was announced. Since the subject is MeHret, I might have focused on her, but I tried to talk about her in conjunction with BeraKi. In the quote you have presented, it is clear I’m trying to create a contrast between a regime and its mouthpieces who are using state power in exacting abuses upon citizens, on one hand, and between the victims who have no power to defend themselves, it’s a contrast between a parador and a prey. Please, You are welcome to have your say too, zgodele ente’lo mele’e.
          Thanks.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam ‘Gheteb,
      .
      Now, I know why I read most of your posts. It was never to learn from your analysis of facts but the facts themselves. Your facts, coming from you, have to be carefully weighted for veracity. The reason for that is your core belief system has been corrupted to such an extent, you yourself may not know its condition. That is my opinion.
      .
      After saying all that, your descriptions of meetings, personalities and all the pathology that was oozing out of your groupings informs me that Emperor Haile Selassie was right to label you all as evil hands augmented by evil governments. He lost the war, big time, which he should have won early in the game. As a result of that loss, generations he was trying to protect suffered immensely and perished. Their offspring are suffering and perishing.
      .
      May God have mercy on their souls.
      May the next generations, who don’t know all about this evil resume a normal life: growing up, going to school, playing games, falling in love and getting married, raising a family and later on enjoying grand children. God, is that asking for the moon?
      .
      Mr. K.H

    • Peace!

      Selam ‘Getheb,

      ‘AGeb ‘AGeb come on man! This has nothing to do with politics rather it is about human decency and compassion. Someone with basic decency sees other’s plights and doesn’t take advantage at least and will help if they can. Please keep your “Abey Keibxhu” attitude only when you defending PFDJ, not for accusing dead and defenseless people.

      Peace!

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Peace!

        I know that this is a belated response, but I have to say the following so that you know what is that prompts you to write UNFAILINGLY such kind of officious and platitudinous response.

        You love to ‘triangulate’ by trying to appear you are above it all, but you ain’t fooling me. You call of ” ‘AGeb ‘AGeb” is MISPLACED, but why you have uttered it against me is not lost to me.

        Just remember that some of us are endowed with an elephant’s memory and all your political contortions have a similar pattern that I have picked up and KNEW a long time ago.

        • Peace!

          Hi ‘Gheteb,

          I think it is wise to blame “stubbornness” and move on because no matter how you slice it, it is wrong to demonize defenseless people. I totally understand stubbornness can become a dominant pattern in people with a “strong fear of change,” but the fact is, given the excruciating dire situation, change is eminent.

          As for political contortions, I remain firm, stand: sustainable change will only come from within. That’s my initial position and never have changed.

          Peace!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Peace!,

            Forget about your political stands, overt or covert ones, for the time being here and answer the following:

            Who are “the defenseless people” people that I have “demonized”?

          • Peace!

            Selam ‘Gheteb,

            I think it is easier to say You demonized everyone who opposed DIA and his cronies. If you go back and read your comments, I am sure you will find the names if that’s what you are looking for.

            Peace!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Peace!

            It is now that I have ” demonized everyone who opposed DIA and his cronies”. If that was the case why did you need to go on this “Ageb”, “Ageb”, “Ageb” frenzy when the passing away of Mihret is cynically used to extract political mileage and the image of Berakhi is polished through sheer revisionism of “the Deqi-Wushate” by the likes of Mahmmuday.

            You didn’t say anything about that callously shameful act, but you ended up jumping on the bandwagon of “blame it on ‘Gheteb. Can you see your inconsistency and your selective moral outrage here?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Peace,

            You have Isaias on one side and the G15 on the other.

            Suppose it was the G15 who imprisoned Isaias, will that make the G15 democrats? Were the G15 ever democrats? [mind you, I have a lot of respect for most of them, including Berakhi, the family man.]

            No matter how much people hate Isaias, he is bound to defend himself and he did. It is either him or the G15.

          • Peace!

            Selam SK,

            I am not defending anybody rather asking people to apply common sense and show compassion for people who are not fortunate to defend themselves. Other than that ERITREA is now an open prison and good luck with your hypothetical defense mechanism.

            Peace!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Peace,

            Don’t you think that the way the G15 behaved [not their ‘reformist’ ideas] contributed to the current situation in Eritrea? It is usually how you say things more than what you say that affects people.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Peace!

            You say that ” ERITREA is now an open prison”. What is “an open prison”, anyway?

            Here is the commonly accepted definition of “an open prison”.

            ” A prison with the minimum of restrictions on prisoners’ movements and activities”

            Or a more detailed one…

            ” An open prison (open jail) is an informal description applied to any penal establishment in which the prisoners are trusted to serve their sentences with minimal supervision and perimeter security and are not locked up in prison cells. Prisoners may be permitted to take up employment while serving their sentence.
            In the UK, open prisons are often part of a rehabilitation plan for prisoners moved from closed prisons.[1] They may be designated “training prisons” and are only for prisoners considered a low risk to the public.”

            So you and those who mindlessly use “open prison” don’t even know the real meaning of “an open prison” and you just keep using it in your denigration campaigns against the PFDJ.

            To use “open prison” to describe Eritrea is an oxymoron of the highest order!

          • Peace!

            Selam ‘Gheteb,

            Thank you for the definition although obviously that’s not what I was trying to imply. Have you ever heard people in back home say: K’wiee B’manka K’zhil B’edka? Why don’t you use the same dictionary and tell us the true meaning of life, democracy, justice and freedom, and see if your PFDJ offers that to the ordinary Eritrean people? And FYI an open prison is a new term coined by Eritreans who have fled the country to avoid slavery, torture, and even death. If you think you can find the term and its definition in English dictionary, needless to say, you are not honest.

            Peace!

          • saay7

            Peace:

            Actually, the correct term is “open air prison”– it means the whole country is a prison where people can see the skies, but their freedom of speech, movement, (in some cases worship) is heavily restricted and they are, like prisoners, told what to do, when to do it, how to do it by the government for most of their lives.

            saay

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Simon K., do you think the way DIA “defended” himself from the G15 was the right way? Btw what did he defend himself from? What the whole world knows about the G15 was that they used the position and (responsibility towards their people) they had in the PFDJ Central council as well as in the gov to ask for the convening of overdue meetings of those bodies so as to make an appraisal of the situation back then. How is such an action considered to be a crime, and something that warrants defense?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abraham H.,

            You said:

            ” What the whole world knows about the G15 was that they used the position and (responsibility towards their people) they had in the PFDJ Central council as well as in the gov to ask for the convening of overdue meetings of those bodies…”.

            Let alone the whole world, you, Abraham H., does NOT know anything significant that G-15 were involved in or what they are standing accused of. Forget about the whole world, talk about yourself and be honest enough to admit that you don’t know squat about the G-15 political agendas. This is not something you can claim to have discovered through Google Earth.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Gheteb, I cannot say I’ve any extraordinary sharpness, but at least my judgement is not compromised by blind worship of an individual; more importantly, I’ve my conscience in tact, thanks God. And, hence I react whenever I see injustice committed on my people, let alone on those who gave all they had to the well being of their country. Yes, the whole world knows about what the demands or proposals of the G-15 were, thanks to the modern age of information. If you’ve not read it, their open letter which they addressed to all the members of the PFDJ is still available on the internet.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abraham H.,

            Forget about your mental sharpness or reading the G-15 Open Letter which was written for public consumption. I not only read the G-15 Open Letter, I have written 2 or 3 articles rebutting and refuting most of its contents back then, but here you are telling me to read it. Man, how far behind are you in this Eritrean political discourse. You are indeed a newbie who is a victim of “little knowledge is so dangerous”.

            Still, you don’t know any significant things when it comes to the political agendas of the G-15 and why they are incarcerated. But, you think you know and that is the sign of those who possess “little knowledge”. Even your Aba Khebdu is not privy of what the G-15 are standing accused of. Check his recent interview with an Australian? Radio.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Gheteb, you can use whatever belittling terms to describe me, but I want to tell you that I don’t believe in the infamous demafamtion campaigns or ’03’ of the PFDJ and its hooligans like you about the G-15 or whoever challenges your devil leader. I read their open letter back in 2001 when it was released to the public, and its contents were what I believed back then and stil believe about how Eritrea should be governed: rule of law, a free and fair justice system, implementation of the Constitution of 1997 or any other legal Constitution, a gov from the people and by the people, appraisal of the conduct of the destructive war of 1998-2000, and overall deliberation about the policies of the gov.
            You said “Still, you don’t know any significant things when it comes to the political agendas of the G-15 and why they are incarcerated”; and that even Amb. Andebrehan ” is not privy of what the G-15 are standing accused of.”. I can also safely conclude that you Gheteb, don’t know why these courageous people are held incommunicado for more than a decade and half, unless, of course, you believe whatever comes out of the filthy mouth of your god DIA. The least you can do, if you’ve a piece of conscience left in you is to demand and call to give these ‘accused’ people to defend themselves in free and fair court. And I’m 100% convinced whatever Gheteb writes in defense of his master DIA, no matter how many articles you pile up in defense of the brute, you would never justify the disappearance of people, or their incarceration, or imprisonment without due process of law.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abraham H.,

            I am not belittling you here. It is just you don’t know anything significant about the G-15 political agendas and why they are incarcerated. Forget about ’03’ and other stuff that was said about them publicly.

            I am the first one to admit that I don’t know the intricate political games that were played behind the G-15 political charade and who was pulling the strings. I am also not privy to what they are standing accused of and the real reason for their incarceration.

            You see, I admit that I don’t know nor do I pretend to know. Many, however, are using the G-15 issue, without knowing anything significant, for their own anti-PFDJ agendas and you happen to be one of them.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Gheteb, here are simple facts:
            -The G-15 released in the summer of 2001 an open letter to the public, with demands/proposals as to what they believed should be done in the mainly political agenda of Eritrea. I, personally, supported and accepted their call, because they raised issues of what I believed to be done Eritrea then.
            -The G-15, and many, if not all the journalists of the independent media were rounded up in September 2001, and we do not yet know their whereabouts or their well being. There are also many other Eritreans who have disappered for unknown reasons and languishing in the various prisons in the Eritrea.
            -These people have been incarcerated for more than a decade and half without due process of law. There are even others like Bitew, who’re not accounted for, for decades.
            -I oppose the injustices that have been committed on these and other Eritreans under the DIA rule, while you; I’ve yet to read any comment from your side that calls for rule of law or justice to the illegally incarcerated Eritreans. The call of justice is a call of basic instinct, it is not a matter of furthering “anti-PFDJ agendas” as you would like to call it.

          • MS

            Selam AbrahamH
            Thanks to the fledgling private press, and to the remaining members of that group, the demands of G-15, or the senior government officials’ requests are public. They have left behind interviews, letters and eyewitnesses. Only cowards hiding behind the veil of nicknames could dare misconstruing the modest demands which those officials made. All was for the wellbeing of the nation, there was no intent of removing IA, not whatsoever. I was approached and reassured by individuals who were believed to had had better rapport with him to explain to him it was in fact in his interest that he treated the matter with open heart. Mahmoud Sherifo, Petros, Haile Saleh Kekya and the rest were still in their ministerial and other senior positions long after the war ended and until they expressed their demand for a review. Did Jigna Ghehteb said he had written three articles? I would tell him,” Nah, that is not admissible until you cite those articles.” Behind the veil, everything is possible. He could tarnish BeraKi, he could think of himself more significant than others, he could even tell us he was leading the battle of Keren. We never know until he come up with a real face. He is the man behind the veil, nameless and shameless.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abraham H.,

            Yeah, sure those “simple facts” are NOT what I am talking about. The issue of the G-15 is not, was not and will never be about constitutionalism, democratic governance and elections. I believe that it arose from a resentment and a deep one at that. All the stuff that one read in the open letter and the private press are mere veneers and pretexts to get back to what they have lost.

            They were SIDELINED not in 1994 or 1998. I think it goes way back to 1987/88 during the second party congress, when the EPRP led by Isaias Afwerki pushed away “the old guard” with what is known as “the new blood”. Those who were in the know about the inner workings of the EPLF and not those who were “merely there” as rank and file EPLF fighters totally in the dark, would tell you about how Petros Solomon was talking about the introduction of “institutionalism” within the EPLF.

            Yeah, I don’t think he realized that he will be SIDELINED and never to make it to the Executive Committee of the PFDJ in the 3rd congress of the EPLF. So was the fate of the Durues, the Sherifos, the Uqbe the Berhanes and the Berakhis.

            This is, in my opinion, the root cause of the G-15 political charade and all the stuff were there for political consumption and giving an appearance of legitimacy to their political agendas.

            What I don’t know much about is how the G-15 tried to exploit the Ethio-Eritrean border war to further their political agendas and the role of the EU ambassador Bandni and that of Anthony lake were in this political charade and who was pulling the strings behind the curtain.

            That I have no clue and when I said you don’t know any other significant information, I was talking about the inner and intricate things going behind the scene and NOT about what was/is publicly available information that was well crafted for the public political consumption.

            You see the completion of the SIDELINING by noticing how Tsehaytu Berakhi, I mean Berakhi Geberselasie was CASHIERED from a ministerial portfolio of the Minster of Information, to be DEMOTED to a mere ambassador to Germany.

            Think “RESENTMENT” and ‘BRUISED EGO’ as the root cause of the G-15 Political charade and nothing else!

          • iSem

            Hi Abraham:
            You see Gheteb told you that Petros Solomon was talking about institutionalizing the org. And he made it sound as if he got it from the inner circles, but he is quoting Yemane T, who conducted a series of damaging interviews and also when it suits him Gheteb does not shy away from using TT words. That should tell you, the underpinning of Gheteb’s personality.

            He told you that the G-15 was sidelined in 1987/1988 in favour of the so called new blood, read that again, the all critical thinker, the self crowned all questioning Gheteb, who does not accept things at face value, did not ask if there was a need for new blood, the oldest blood in EPLF is non other than IA himself, but Gheteb would not ask that question.

            Listen to me Ab, Gheteb has issues and you should love him, do not challenge him, he will be easily hurt. the reason he loves IA is because Eri is the only place where criminals, rapists and pedophiles can go free if they worship IA.

            I am not big fun of the G-15 albeit for different reason than Gheteb’s but if tomorrow Gheteb goes to Keren to brag about how he corrupts young people and how many young under-age girls he dallied in the Eri community and somehow gets arrested and is thrown in karshelli, I will work for his release, if we do not give criminals like him due process, then Eri is not worthy it.

            I am sure you know this, PFDJ’s MO is this: they bring you someone like Sophia T to fire up certain segments of Eri, they will bring people like Gheteb so the Jebrti can feel safe, they bring Shengeb (EPLF) to fire up the Tigray in Mariya, they will bring Gergish Ghirmay and Abraha Garaza to fire up the Blen, EPLF and now PFDJ has diced and sliced Eritrea, the already fragmented society. In Sudan, they would tell a few families that “ezi wuddub” is yours, and these families are from certain region and these families will toil and moil and enslave themselves to protect EPLF even at the expense of their safety, they would invite their relatives and close friends to lunch and then the EPLF security arrests them and disappear them, there are many, many people who have disappeared in1988 in Kassala.

            That is why this independence thing that many smart people trip over themselves to celebrate has not been achieved, certain people, the new blood has hijacked the cause of Ghedli. Gheteb is right that the sidelining has taken place way before 1994 while the G-15 slept on the wheel and Eri were dancing intoxicated by the euphoria of killing Ethiopian soldiers and the intellectuals were so charmed by college drop out like IA and illiterates like Wuchu that they were rubber stamping the words of their as if they words of from heavens.

            You know how the PG+FDJ does not allow a child over 5 years old to leave the country, but if you are connected , even if you are healthy, robust 25 years, you can leave the country through the airport and you think this started in Asmara, the connected were leaving the field to join their families in Kassala to go to Europe.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            “Still, you don’t know any significant things when it comes to the political agendas of the G-15 and why they are incarcerated”

            How would you know that he doesn’t know? i mean, you can only disprove his assertions with your fact based details citing reliable sources. Then only can one take you as those in the “knowing” or nod to your compelling argument. In the absence of that your guess is as good as anyone and your not in any position or whatsoever to call people names.

            Speaking of names, got one for ya, “Spin Master”. You dodge questions, you doublespeak (you say you don’t know about sth but then again few steps away you trash talk people as imbeciles on the same issue), you never ever answer straight, rather disguise your response in a seemingly logical and coherent flow buttered with some Latin here and there overly burdened with complex words to slow down readers in the hope of leaving an impression that it takes Einstein to understand your superior intelligence.

            You really are a spin master, still cant figure out why you aint serving the skunks. Are you scared of the very thing you are defending? You know, being a victim of the thing you did to maintain? Are you? Spin Master?

            Just messing with ya man, take a chill pill!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Graviton,

            Someone may not know the answer to a question while at the same time knowing that others do not know the answer to the question too. I can give you many examples from Mathematics.

            Conclusion: you are a waffling, clueless moron.

          • Hayat Adem

            Simon Kaleab,
            Meet me on the same quote:
            “Still, you don’t know any significant things when it comes to the political agendas of the G-15 and why they are incarcerated”
            1) In the normal world, there are not such things because crimes done or charged against are known as the court sees them and administers them and validates or disqualifies them. In the Eritrean case, the only one who can say the above quote is either the victim or the the incarcerator. Of the two, we know Gheteb is not the victim. He can speak for the other part.
            2) There are things that are known. There were events that preceded their incarceration. There are family and friends whom the victims spoke with with prior their arrest and descending to incommunicado. In the absence of formal judicial proceedings of days of formal charges and defenses, the best tool you have is analysis. People can analyze and draw conclusions.
            3) This is my serious point: have a closer look at the quote. No, no, no look at it again. I will not let you go until you are able to see through its ugliness. The absence of public knowledge on the nature of the “offense done or allegedly done” by a government detained suspect is weird and a crime by itself. People like you and Gheteb can take pride in the mystery of human darkness but the absence of that knowledge about G15 makes it even more absurd. It is not supposed to be a mathematical mystery like you tried to put it, not at all.
            4) But again, it is the PFDJ world, a different world..full of weirdos!!

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            “But again, it is the PFDJ world, a different world..full of weirdos!!”

            Don’t you think that’s a disrespect for weirdos? i mean, weirdos are cool, eccentric and out of the box mental orientation. what you have in shabo is a mental sickness, wounded ego, conflicted identity.

          • Hayat Adem

            Peace be with you, Graviton. Weirdos are cool, yes but only when you consider one aspect of the definition. The other part of the definition fits well with what you said.
            “Wierdo:
            2. a psychopath, especially a dangerous or vicious one; psycho:
            They caught the weirdo who attacked the children.”

          • iSem

            Hi Simon K:
            You are correct when u said the G-15 did not learn from history.
            But IA did not need to defend himself, I do not think they were trying to hurt him, they stupidly wrote a letter to him, if they were trying to hurt him, they would not have written that letter, but u seem to justify it with self defense. He did not just arrest them to quell the division that may come to Eri, it was a conspiracy agaisnt the futue of Eri
            You will hate this but MZ also arrested his own G-15 but that arrested made Ethio better, the imprisoned were released, ppl knew where they were. But IA made Eri worse, the G-15 will never make it out out the prison by the time PFDJ is gone, do not ask me how I know, I just know, I learn from history. None of them will make it alive and those who are supporting PFDJ have blood on their hands
            So you guys, first make Eri like Ethiopia first and then you can tackle CIA and compete with other countries later

    • Selamat Gheteb,

      Kab tSintSiA tSintSuay tSirayy tSAtSE tSebHi SBHi.

      Time for the Winthrop files. I see your nerves shaking and your true language surfacing.
      Deki WushaTTe.. Cary on.

      tSAtSE

  • tes

    Dear AT,

    I thank you for coming with this editorial. I have this theory for her self-suicide.

    As an early leader of Eritrean Commision for UNESCO(as per Yohannes Zerai’s recollection), she must be the leading actor in the UNESCO activities in Eritrea. Recently so much is reported from Asmara and no mention was given to MiHret. She must be isolated and betrayed for her husband’s cause. They left her to work in a small room of Ministry of Education though they didn’t want her to be in public. This must have forced her to be killed by Isaias regime in a systematic way.

    What did the COiE report said?

    The Government of Eritrea is responsible for systematic, widespread and gross human rights violations that have created a climate of fear in which dissent is stifled, a large proportion of the population is subjected to forced labour and imprisonment, and hundreds of thousands of refugees have fled the country, according to a UN report released Monday. Some of these violations may constitute crimes against humanity.

    From COiE 2015 Report

    There is no doubt that she is sytematically killed.

    tes

    • Sarah Ogbay

      Hi Tes,
      Rightly said!
      It is undeniable that Mehret’s death is really, really sad and a great injustice whichever way we see it. I think we should consider the precarious situation she was in after her husband was put in the dungeons of the very people both worked and fought side by side. She had to explain things to their children which I believe must have been very painful. Working among people whose real feeling you don’t know is like walking on eggshells. Many would sympathize with her situation but it would be dangerous to show it; dangerous for them and for her. When PFDJ labels you and enemy or an associate of the enemy, you are put in an awkward position in community. This is a psychological and emotional punishment of the worst kind. So let us be a little careful about people not writing about her before her death.
      SAAY, mentioned an important point about her son coming to visit her. But if you think about it, her husband was taken away from her, then her son was taken away and with no hope of the regime going, the rest would follow. I am just saying that different people react differently when they feel that they are losing the grip of their family and their life.
      Mehret was a brave woman. That should be the bottom line.

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Sarah Ogbay,
        What you have written is the core of what normal human beings are worth of; people whose humanity is defined by morality, graceful social norms and value systems. What I have witnessed in the comments an individual has written in regard to loss of the most loved woman to her children and family is very much divorced from what defines a person as human being. And all that for the mere purpose of defending a governing order and a man at its helm. Nothing can justify such callous conduct. Only devotion and zealotry to a ruler and his rule can obscure an ability to separate claims about what her husband said and did from the value systems of society that cherish live of a mother and what her loss meant to her children. Here, political bigotry has no place.
        Regards

  • MS

    Dear AT
    Thanks for the editorial. MeHret and BeraKi would like us to value life and freedom above all. They spent their prime time in order to create a political entity that would make Eritreans reclaim their dignity and chart out a future that would have solidified the value of life and dignity. MeHret contributed in that regard by becoming a member of the commission that had written and approved the first ever Eritrean constitution. That constitution had been collecting dust, and now thrown out of the shelf, thank to the man who has ditched the dreams of generations. It would appear MeHret and IA had taken opposition paths from day one: MeHret worked for constitutionalism and human dignity; IA worked contrary to that. BeraKi had left a indelible record in the area of introducing free press and constitutional governance. His courageous position that IA had accepted the US/Rewanda proposal to end hostilities early on is well known. He has paid for that brave stand. In a normal situation, citizens rise up even to the increase of few cents To the price of bread and fuel; to the misappropriation of their resources, etc. In our situation though, Eritreans seem to have acclimatized to the daily occurrence of injustice. MeHret must have tried to change that in her own way and within the space available to her. I’m sure she would not go down without a fight. The scattered rage needs to unite in order to move the mountain of injustice. People, including PFDJ supporters, are seen/heard complaining within the confines of their comfort zone, in their homes and with folks who they trust. What is missing is a unifying theme that could break the walls separating the clusters of chatters. I know very well both MeHret and BeraKi. They were fine human beings. They were the patriots of patriots. My condolences go to the family and to all those who have known them.

    • iSem

      Hi MS:
      Mehret is the tip of the ice-berg. We know of her death because she is a celebrity of sorts, but thousands mothers and wives have gone through the same pain, same goes with Aster Yohannes. No matter of the accusation that we only write about the famous (Aka Saba), we cannot possibly know about the thousands who are private citizens and the Mehrets and Asters and Berakis should be the poster-prisoners of the thousands who have disappeared in Eritrea’s thin air.
      The rumors that she committed suicide are believable, after 15 years of humiliation and suffering and mocking and the burden to bringing up her kids, the memory of spending her precious years in the jungle to help create a despot is really gut-wrenching. PFDJ is not only inflicting pain, it is “infecting” the us with mental illness, beyond keeping the nation intact, beyond the implementation of rule of law, beyond freedom of speech Eritrea will suffer from mental illness as the trauma of orphans, human trafficking, organ harvesting take their toll. We are like sheep without a shepherd, where the fox,hyena and wolf feed on as they please and with ease
      Rest in peace Mehret Eyob

      • Kokhob Selam

        Hi iSem

        correct —

        • iSem

          Dear KS:
          nice to hear from you!
          Weekend is here, we need Jebbenna

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear iSem,

            see Jebbenna page… is here now.. go on…

          • MS

            Dear KoKhebay
            Glad to see you back and up, slowly regaining your strength. Welcome, brother. We have prayed for your return.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Kokhobay,

            Welcome back and hopefully with full speed. I see a lot of change in your health from your communication.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Mahmoud and the rest,

      The national imperative of finding “a unifying theme [to] break the walls separating …[the change seekers] clusters” has indeed been a million times over due. What can more eloquently remind us better than the myriad tragedies our people are facing. The death of our sister MeHret is just the latest news that could fade away and forgotten in a few weeks. One do not help but express concern that we seem to be on the path of becoming a nation of mourners and fatalists that has given up to the verdict of fate. The search for uniting theme has become priorities on top of priorities. The urgent priority is saving lives that continue to be wasted in jails, seas and deserts. This national responsibility cannot be list on par with in matters we aspire such as democracy and its bounties.

      The justice seeker clusters of whatever nature and size must freeze their programs and grade down their ambitions and rally behind the one and only one theme of saving a nation and its citizens’ lives. A platforum or venue has be to found to bring together cross-section of the wider opposition clusters to agree on a minimum task program whose central objective is rallying the active or vital forces of change that requires us all to abdicate whatever we believe in or uphold from our past experiences in favor of evolving meaningful task program and ONE leadership that the youth can trust and follow. What happened in Holland a few days ago is just a small instance that demonstrates that the youth can shoulder their responsibilities once they get to believe that change program and leadership embody their aspirations.

      Regards

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