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The Adi-Mengonti Speech: A Commentary And Translation

Commentary: I am a jealous person, but it is not what you are thinking. I am jealous as in “zeyqen’e ay’yweled”, jealous as in, “I am a jealous God.” Both are positive attributes. The Eritrean adage challenges us to seek higher accomplishments by emulating others without malice, and God’s jealousy springs from giving something that rightly belongs to him to others: worshiping the idols gods. As an Eritrean I was jealous for lacking an inspiring, timely, and timeless speech and  for being robbed of what is righty and inalienably mine—liberty and justice.

And so I envied the Americans and Tigrayans. The Americans for their Gettysburg speech and the Ethiopians for their Mekele speech. I even envied the South Africans for Mandela’s speech from the dock at his trial in 1962: “…It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.”

In the Gettysburg Speech President Lincoln said that no one will remember the words spoken there. He was wrong.  Americans remember the Gettysburg speech for its vigour, its brevity, and its penetrating message.  In the Mekele speech, Prime Minister Meles Zenawi paid tribute to his people and heralded a new dawn in Ethiopia. People will remember that speech for the following: “enqau endamtkum aykonna. Ezen trriewon zelekum helicoperat bomba zdribay leykonas, setti semhar Lnsnssa eyen.” [glad we are from you, these helicopters will not spray bombs, but lush grass].

Then came the “The Honest speech.” In it, Haile DeruE warned that we must pay attention, “hissabna nigber”, that Eritreans should not rest on their laurels before accomplishing what they set out to accomplish. Constitutional governance and justice are our business to begin with, but they also have the dual function to please the world, he said, and to that end we need to move “bquarta knkedid alenna”–fast. It was mostly allusions, but he paid non-condescending, genuine tribute to the people of Eritrea and criticized the leadership of the war. He was immediately demoted and later when he became a founding member of the G-15, he, along with his colleagues and long-time comrades, was made to disappear.

Hurrah, No more jealous! We now have our own timeless speech: The “Adi Mengonti” speech. Bitweded Abraha; after spending seventy-four months in a solitary confinement he paid homage to the thousands who perished by calling for reconciliation, forgiveness, and emphasizing non-violence and rejecting revenge against those who inflicted suffering on him. He addressed both the “Stones” and the stones. The “Stones” later stoned him by ratting on him, while the stones and their kin and kith, the rocks and pebble waited for their chance to bury the mortal man who spoke the immortal words.

The speech was impressive on many levels and so was its use of the Tigrinya language. Bitweded’s use of Tigrinya seceded from the literal to embrace the natural, from rudeness to reclaim deference, from turgidity to harken on humility. He said he was released on the day of “Kidane Mihret”, the 16th of the month in the Geez calendar. He invoked the traditional rule of law, “Hgi enda Aba”. Blood relatives, follow villagers, and PFDJ spies alike listened on. The women ululated when he invoked forgiveness to start the New Year with a new spirit and new constitution. A “Stone” even yelled, “Sah”, Arabic for “RIGHT”.

The speech and the advice it offered in the fight against our monstrous captures has been proved to be impotent under regimes like PFDJ, but it is a speech that we must cherish and heed nonetheless. It is a speech that we must imitate both for its tenor and equanimity, it is a speech that me must include as an extra arrow in our quiver to triumph over the challenges that lie ahead on the wake of PFDJ’s inevitable demise. It is a speech that we must enshrine in the museums of our hearts. It is a speech that we must use to erase all past and future PFDJ speeches.

It is also a speech that PFDJ wants us is to emulate, albeit for a different reason. It wants us to emulate the spirit of this speech when we fight against it, it wants us to give the other cheek as if we own endless supplies of cheeks; the PFDJ wants us to fight it with our bare hands while they avail to themselves tanks and missiles.

Translation of Bitweded’s Speech From Tigrinya:

First allow me to thank all of you: my fathers, older brothers, sisters, all of you collectively.

You have availed to me deference, may deference be bestowed upon you! I am not deserving of all these accolades and respect, what little I may have contributed is my duty. Most importantly we have paid dearly with the lives of young jewels, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen, under twenty years’ olds. Thousands of them have died in sacrifice for our independence, justice and freedom, but I am still alive.

Although the injustice that was committed on me after independence was disappointing, is not a big deal, it is minuscule problem. I do not dwell on the past, I look forward to the future, this is a fraction of the lengthy, collective struggle we must wage for human liberty, before it was for independence and country, now the struggle is for human liberty, so fellow-man would not exploit and abuse us, to be free, to be governed by law, like our fore-bearers did with “hgi endaba”: the laws of our fathers. Under the strong “hgi endaba” a judge presided, devoid of guns, of prisons and of police. Even the bandits abided by the law, everyone did, the rich, the strong, the poor and the gun owner. The Eritrean people rejected outlaws, we are law and justice loving.

To institute societal justice we will need to commit ourselves, if after paying dearly in thousand lives and I am scared, I can be promoted, I can benefit and be decorated, but it would be at the expense of the nation. I will never do that.

I am innocent and I have committed no crime except to stand against the selling my country, if anyone, from the top to the bottom echelon has proof to the contrary, he can come forward, if he is a man.

I was in solitary confinement for seventy-four months, but now I am free and victorious man. What I have said sx years ago, they are saying it now. I have said it six years prior.

What I said was, we should not sell out and compromise our ports to our killers and murders, that is what I said and I am duty bound to do so, as it is my honour and your honour.  I have to commit and advocate for my national and public interest.

Esteemed guests, allow me to share with you a secret: I pledge that I have no grudges because of the wrongs that was done to me and the suffering I have endured. I have chosen reconciliation and peace. I will seek neither revenge on those who wronged me nor punishment against them. I have forgiven them all. In this occasion, in the presence of my fathers, brothers and sisters, I express my readiness to seek no revenge and punishment against those who wronged me. Also I will not accept any monetary restitution, I told them to open schools and educate poor kids with it. I refuse any restitution, to the sons of “Adkeme Milligga” receiving compensation is an insult. I have trusted this [pointing to his collar] when I struggled and I will live trusting it.

With a rejuvenated spirit, in the new year, from the date of birth, meaning the date of my release:  the 16th in our calendar, Saint  “Kidane Mhret”,  the 24th of December, 1997 in the “Ferenji” (Gregorian), I am ready to start with this spirit. Even those who wronged me are my friends. Grudges, revenge are useless, they are harmful. Infighting, acrimony and destruction only lead to turmoil.

Always, in the democratic process between brethren of the same country we must chose to live together in harmony. It will require, tolerance, mutual respect, acceptance, debate, understanding, trust, consensus and compromise on divergent views. We must endure. He who exudes, patience and tenacity with time will roam the streets in freedom. If they lock you for seventy four months, so be it, just endure, the Eritrean people will free you. I am confident that people will raise their hands to ask the where about of Bitweded and am here freed, amongst you.

To set an example for others, I have forgiven from the bottom of my heart, because forgiveness, peace and reconciliation are superior to everything else. All humans need forgiveness, present company included,  it takes courage to forgive.  Let us forgive and we shall receive forgiveness. It takes determination, courage and bravery to do so, yet it is not easy. A wronged person harbors bad feelings, yet forgiveness, peace and reconciliation can be found even in a wounded heart. You should not abandon the right way because you have been wounded. I have been wounded, damaged for seventy four months, as a human being I have been alienated and locked in solitary confinement in a dark room, but with my wounded heart, on December 24, 1997 in the Gregorian calendar, and the 16th in our calendar, I have intimated my readiness for forgiveness and reconciliation in my letter to the defence minister and president of Eritrea. Before they uttered anything, I have given them forgiveness, choosing reconciliation and peace so that you can rejoice and know.

There will always be conflicts and divergent views and fights, but the best solution is to sit around the table, like we are doing right now, in peace, and in a legal manner, with a democratic dialogue to solve it. It is not weakness, it is the least costly with bigger gains for victory for peace, a price for peace. Prisons, muzzling and alienation are illegal and therefore wrong means to solve conflicts. They will never lead to a solution. Let us make my case a teaching moment, lest we repeat these kinds of history in an independent Eritrea. You should not lock someone just because he opposed you, instead you have to seat down and seek a solution. Settling divergent views with due process and in a peaceful manner will yield peace that has lasting power, but it has some small price, for example as in my case, I was wronged, but it has bigger gains. Compromising, and solving conflict amicably is not a loss. Do not think that I lost because I forgave, I am not expecting anything in return, no one should deny me what I deserve but I also do not want special treatments. I am speaking by standing on the graves of martyrs, 65, 000 of them have died, and who commanded them? Bitweded. But I am   alive. It is the fact that I made it alive is what I considered a weakness. I consider forgiving those who wronged me and my enemies a triumph, so do not think I lost. Some people think that going to the jungle with a gun to fight and kill people is a victory. If you kill your brother, you are hurting yourself. Or if you want to take revenge also you are hurting yourselves. I reject this.

To genuinely believe in forgiveness, trust me I will not be a prisoner of past grudges, acrimony. With a fresh thinking, in the New Year, 1998 and with a new spirit and constitution, I am embarking on this journey. For the sake of peace and reconciliation I have given full forgiveness. It best to think for the long term. Let us think about our children and grandchildren, the long trek to human liberty, to preserve and shepherded peace, justice, democracy.  Let us think how we would preserve and shepherded the peace we have, let us not squander it. There are the fools who will take up arms because they were wronged, but the wise will reject such endeavours as bad choice and instead will elect to be wronged for the sake of the country and people.  Let us shepherded this peace. Let us learn from our neighbours.  The ideals of modernity, development, prosperity, peace, and justice were our goals, our vision and our dreams. I have chosen to focus on them. It is a long journey.

In 1941 when WelWel was talking about independence, he only had a handful supporters, but in 1991 after fifty years, the people rallied around independence and they hoisted their flag triumphant and jubilant. And that is what I am saying, we can attain the remaining journey peacefully. We should not seek short cuts. It took fifty years for independence and social justice will take another fifty. If Bitweded and others are locked for seventy four months or ten years, it is a token. To bring change we need to commit, we should not fear, we should be brave. Do not fear a human being, fear the law and God. Man will put you in a trap if you fear him, but if you stand up to him he will be under you, this requires courage and commitment. If they put me in the dungeons today, the people will ascend me to the throne tomorrow. It is the people who have the ultimate say. But I have to endure, I should not give up, I should not despair and be frustrated. I have to use my time, I have to work inside the prison.

Living together in peace is a fruit of forgiveness, reconciliation and wisdom. The yard stick of a brave politician and wise leader of a nation in our present times is the maturity of the mind: one who converts enemies to allies and friends, one who expands his circle of friends, one who brings the divided closer and one who invites the gun totting from the jungle to come and compete with him, one who compensates those who were wronged, one who admits his mistakes and openly asks for forgiveness with humility, not with arrogance of “we have brought independence”. One who believes, it is the people who brought independence and seeks their counsel and advice and direction to avert mistakes. It is not how many you have killed but how many you have forgiven. We are witnessing it in South Africa and others, we are learning and let us do the same. I am only one, there are thousands of prisoners, let us demand that they are bought to the court of law, I will also say the same. Fear not.  If they put us in prison, so be it. If they come after me the second time, I am willing to be imprisoned, until justice reigns, I hope they are wiser now and will not repeat it, the point is that we should not be silenced.

You are my follow villagers, I was in Assab only for two months, Omar Hakitto is from Afar and a former member of the parliament of Eritrea, from the day I was imprisoned he was always inquiring about me, to the minister of justice and the president, they did not tell him that I opposed them, how would they, but he was never arrested because he was brave. I am mentioning him in thanks not say that he was the only one who asked and advocated for me, lots of people did, friends, relatives and acquaintances alike. Many have also been arrested because of me. People inquired about me vouching that I was innocent but I am just saying we should not stop. Let us point them out when we witness unfairness.  Fesseha Bahta, you are a member of the parliament, you should speak up, people have delegated you, come back to your village to report back that you have spoken on their behalf, if you do that they will not touch you, if you do not, they will chase you. Nothing will happen to you, the power is on the hands of the people. So am reiterating commitment for the advancement of national interest, the rule of law and justice. It is a collective responsibility, a lone person will not go far, but I am willing to start it.

I am telling, peace is superior to everything, the most important gift of grace to human being is living in peace. Let us preserve and shepherd the peace we have as we will hand it down to our children and grandchildren tomorrow. We can only give what we have, so let us pass the peace we have to our children, so they can pass it to their children. If we squander the peace we have, it will cost us heavily to recreate the peace. Do not heed those who tell you they will bring justice with guns, they are liars, tell them to bring change through imprisonment peacefully. Peace can only be attained with peace.

Let us learn from Angola and Mozambique, the decimated lives, the destroyed economy during their civil war is several folds of what they paid when fighting the European occupation. Mozambique’s civil war lasted for sixteen years and cost 150,000 lives, Bitweded is not foolish, will not follow such means, and I will continue with due process and peacefully. Let us choose this process.

There are some irresponsible generals and political leaders who commit mistakes, the wrong means of solving conflicts that will not bring durable peace. We will pay heavy price to recreate peace tomorrow, we need to be very careful. I am looking at it from this perspective.

I have effectively used and enjoyed my seventy four months of incarceration. I have used my time to write my books and pursue my studies. It was not in vain, you will see the fruits of my labour in the future. I was also working from inside the prison. Do not think for a minute that I lost, I gained more respect, to be a man one must be tested and after he is freed he will be a man. I came out tested but not broken, so you should not have regrets about that.  Rejoice my fathers, older brothers and sisters. Be proud as you have made me proud. You gave me your collective reverence. The respect from the people is superior to that of a general, a minster and president. The honor you have bestowed on me now and before is a testament to the respect you have for me.

Thank you!
Eternal glory to our martyrs!
Victory to the masses!

Thank you again!

May your blessing and prayers fall me

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  • saay7

    Selam Ato Wechegud:

    When all our abnormality fades, there will be a Little Ethiopia and Little Sudan in Asmara. If I had to make a choice between Addis and Khartoum, and assuming ceteris paribus on the governance of both? And assuming we are not comparing Ethiopia vs Sudan but Addis vs Khartoum?

    Weather: I saw a documentary on skating in Addis and one of the kids said it rains 150 days/year in Addis? Spent 3 months in Addis when I was a kid and it rained every day. Meanwhile, in Khartoum, the average weather is 10 degrees centigrade less than hell. Advantage: Addis.

    Sports: There is no culture of running in Khartoum. Addis is huge on running. It just hosted the Great Ethiopian run. Advantage, huge advantage: Addis.

    Food: I am not a foodie but Ethiopian cuisine is not exactly diverse, is it? A famous Ethiopian chef has a restaurant in New York and it is basically Kentucky Fried Chicken. Let’s just say huge advantage to Khartoum.

    Music: Conventional (popular) music of Sudan is singers sitting on a couch and a huge orchestra of violinists, and organ players and accordion players. Conventional Ethiopian music is the stuff Eyob shares with us every day. Both are very…conventional. Both countries seem to appreciate very, very high-pitched female voices (a couple of times: I was holding a glass of water and cracked.) Sudanese blues are much better. Advantage: Khartoum.

    Art: mnm ayilim, I say evenly matched:)

    Attitude towards religion: Both are very relaxed (I am talking about the people and not the governments.) Ramadan in Sudan is the closest I came to a real spiritual experience–with random street Suffi chants. I have heard Koranic recitation of Ethiopian sheiks and (I have this weird thing that takes mental note of language-destruction) and I am too much in editor mode to get spiritual. Advantage: Khartoum.

    History: There is a place where you can actually see the Blue Nile and White Nile merge in Khartoum. Once you overcome the disappointment that the Blue Nile is not blue (muddy) and the white nile is not white (equally muddy), then you are smack in the middle of the history of the Nubians. Advantage: Khartoum. Unless, of course, you have an equally historic and captivating story about Addis. How the city was named (yawn) does not count.

    Man-on-the-street: This takes us to the most import variable: where will I feel at home if I speak ok Amharic and ok Arabic. Both look like me, dress like me, walk like me, laugh loud, men walk holding hands, women colorfully and both have higher respect for animal rights than the west (and by that I mean animals share the street, the pavement with man.)

    So, comfortable in both:) Well, in Khartoum, I will never run into anyone who begins his sentence with “The problem with you Eritreans is….” but it is a tradeoff for the weather.

    saay

    • Eyob Medhane

      Sal,

      You see the problem with you Eritreans is…. 🙂 (I am joking everybody, please don’t be up in arms with me.. 🙂 )

      You did alright except few things…

      1) Addis has the highest number of museums and Art galleries in Subsaharan Africa, and only matched by Egypt in entire African continent. And in terms of Arts, we moved away from the church arts of big eyed Angeles a long time ago…Please look at this (All the pages) and drool.. 🙂

      http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1657047

      2) Animals on the street in Addis, not that much anymore. That used to be the case, but now, unless, you go to Shola or Kotebe, the animals now are kept on the peripheries.

      3) You are way off on the music. Have you ever heard of Ethio Jazz? Addis is a capital of Jazz. It has some the best jazz and music clubs in Africa. Remember, it had some of the longest surviving bands anywhere in the continent (Roha Band and Walyas Band) in the case of Walyas Band, not only in Ethiopia, it won acclaim the world over. (Google Hailu Mergia and learn) even your beloved Jano Band is the music bright spot of the city.

      4) Addis has the best transportation network, even before the light rail. Addis minibus network has been best organized and covers all 10 boroughs of the city, not forgetting Anbessa bus and Lada Taxis that takes you everywhere.

      5) Addis city cafés and coffee houses are unmatched anywhere in Africa, of course one of the most famous one is Saay Cafe. 🙂 (Tomoka, Mokarar, are just some that have been raved about on international media) for older generation (Jolly bar, flamingo, Anbessa bar) How could you forget Anbessa bar, where all your recruiters and plotters of Eritrean secession plots.. 🙂

      Other than that, you did ok.. 🙂

      • saay7

        Hey Eyob:

        That was edumacating. Let’s see how long your fasting from “the problem with you Eritreans…highlanders, christians, extinction….” lasts.

        I will take credit away from Addis for not having animals-in-the-streets anymore. I will add a demerit for people peeing in the street, while smoking and having a normal conversation and flat out general disregard for hygiene. Doesn’t happen in Khartoum:)

        Thanks for warning me about jazz…more demerit. Worse music ever invented. Second worse, after Big Band music, of which you have pleeeeeeeenty (kbur zebegna.)

        Transportation….hmmm…Khartoum had the “Brensa” the improvised taxi, a pickup truck welded into a taxi. It is hot, it is humid, it is dusty….so, more points to Addis.

        On the cafe’s, do you have the patron say, “it is on us?” or does he charge every single time? Hmmmm? Do you have hot tea, served in glass cup, with the copper spoon dunken in, and with gigantic grains of sugar refusing to dissolve? No? Advantage: Khartoum:)

        saay

        • Eyob Medhane

          Sal,

          Aghhhhhhh….You got it wrong again.

          1) Peeing on the street is also a somewhat older generation thing. (Thanks for the ex-mayor of Addis Arkabe Equbay ex-health minister Tedros Adhanom) There are plenty of public bathrooms (clean I might add) now. So that happens really really now. So, the demerit should be back on merit.. 🙂

          2) Did you just call “Mesqel Adebaby” a “suicide intersection”? How dare you? That is our city square, man?! Where Mengistu Hailemariam smashes bottle of red ink that resembles blood and at the same time we celebrate UNESCO world heritage registered Mesqel religious festival. That is both amusing and interesting at the same time… 🙂

          3) Transportation….Does Khartoum have a young boy assistant of a minibus driver, called “weyala’, who at the sometime mistreats passengers and, when he is in a good mood entertain passengers at the same time? I don’t think so. So, brother, Addis still wins.. 🙂

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear awate readers,

    . . . . . ጽላል ንመን ?. . . . .

    ንቃለ- ኑዛዜ ኣርክብ ኣፈርኩቡ :-
    ንስሃ በዳሊ ኩሉ ተኣኪቡ :-
    “ኣይፋልክን ኣይፋልካን ” ዓበይቲ ይዛረቡ :-
    ንዕርቂ ንሰላም ብዙህ ይጣበቡ :
    ወጻዕቲ በደልቲ ግን ነግረ ነይዓገቡ :-
    ብኣጉል ጭርሖ ቃላት የላግቡ ::

    ጉርድን እኽልን ድኣ መን ኣሎ ዘይፈሊ :-
    መን ኣሎ ዘይፈልጥ መን እዩ ‘ቲ በዳሊ :-
    መዓስ ውሒዱ – ትዕግስቲ ምስ ኣቅሊ :-
    ሕጂ ግን በዚሑ ኣብ ሓዊ ገንፋሊ ::

    ጽላል ድኣ ‘ሞ ንመን ከተጽልል :-
    ቦታ የለን ኣሕዋት ንኣምሳሉ ዘምሰልስል :-
    “ዓወት ንሓፍሽ” ኢሉ ህዝቡ ንዝቀትል: –
    ሓፋሽ ነቂሑ እዩ ደጊም ነይታለል ::

  • saay7

    Selam ato wechegud:

    And by that you mean Little Khartoum and Little Addis neighborhoods in Asmara?:)

    saay

  • Tafla

    Dear VF & PTS,

    I don’t dislike Awet n’Hafash or the history of Ghedli, it was just a culmination of a long history of stupidity that started with King Yekuno Amlak, ampliphied by Menelik (Wuchale) and the ultra stupid DERG. I will not appologize for Ghedli. Eritrea is no different than any other former African colony, it deserved Independence. My pessimism about Eritrea’s viability as nation is something that has grown gradually. Eritrean politics since the 40’s has had at times overt but most of the time an undercurrent of religious disharmony. The unity is a sham. Politicians are just maneuvering to decieve to get the overhand. Justice seekers? What kind of justice? Which constitution? Which laws? I don’t think these will be resolved oeacefully. It’s because of dislike of the others that I want partition, it’s for the sake of peace, stability and syrvival of my culture and languge. I really dislike the no war no peace situation, it doesn’t benefit anyone except both governments to hold on to power and the TPLF interference is not for the benefit of Kebessa (It’s some kind of weak imnature vendetta avsinat EPLF and teach these Italian slavens a lesson…). We have been deprived from being with our Tigray family, because of Ethiopian governments’ obsession with the sea. We cannot be sacrificed for eternity. If Ethiopia want access to the sea, ask the Afar people what they want in return.

    PTS, I agree with Hope’s take on the exodus.

    Your brother
    Tafla

    • Tafla

      ‘…not because of dislike…’

  • Nitricc

    Hi All, it is thanksgiving and I will like to shout out to the great people I get to know but some reason no longer here. With no particular order I wish them great thanksgiving.
    Rodab
    Serray
    Kim
    Selam
    Gahteb
    Meron
    Yodita
    Hayat
    Papi
    And any one I may have forgotten.
    Please ad to the list.
    Wetru Awet Nihafsh. Thanks Ayneta.

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Hi Nitric,

      Good that you remember former awate forumers. While you enjoy your thanksgiving dinner with your loved ones; I would also urge you to remember those Eritreans who are not as lucky as you and me. Remember those thousands of prisoners of conscience; the G15 members; the journalists; the religious leaders and respected elders; the thousands of Eritreans who’ve lost their lives while escaping from repression; another thousands of Eritreans languishing in refugee camps in neighboring countries; all the youth whose only fate is to be the servants of a clique of gangsters. All these are victims of the regime that you champion day in day out in a country that you never have set a foot. Remember also that these people have loved ones whom they would like to share what life has to offer of happiness and sorrow.

    • AOsman

      Hey Nitricc,

      You reminded Tsaste of Fareed, he is on a fighting mood now.

      I have something for you, hopefully the thankgiving finished and you have munched your turkey, watch and learn about it. It is for the AmEritreans only.

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      Regards
      AOsman

  • Solomon Haile

    Selamat Awatista,
    Today is the 100th year anniversary of Einstein’s Theory of relativity. Now, It has been a quarter of a century since my last physics course as an Engineering Physics undergraduate student before veering off to EE and ultimately applied math/”TinQola”, so I do not have even a even good grasp of Einstein’s Relativity Theory. However I recognize the Awarista Einsteins that I would need another set of digits to count. Take Semere Andom as an example as well as The “General” Nitric for as the Eritrean Stock of Einsteins. SA with his “zeyQyeniE ayweled” intro to General Biteweded’s speech is probably diametrically opposed to Nitric on to which way is the way forward for their beloved Eritrea and the Eritrean “Hafash”/”SheAb al Aritria” But is it a coincidence that Today is the Century mark of a Theory that has changed the cream of the crop minds of the time to SEE THE UNIVERSE and do their calculus for further theorization and applications ever since OR is it a que for all of us in, arguably, the best Eritrean forum to date to take a leap of faith and commence the reengineering of first our hearts and minds to set the leadership and example for the Eritrean people for that TIME AND SPACE proven theory of STRENGTH IN UNITY. Just ask Teg. MaHmud SaleH what “Awet n Hafash” meant to the Eritrean “Hafash” when the United Front “Tegadalay”, (some carried to the front to defend despite having lost their legs previously they can still see and shoot down the massive and heavily mechanized force) kept the torch from annihilation from Ethiopia’s Sixth offensive in 1981. Or ask Aya Tegadalay Amanuel Hidrat had ELF Unity been preserved in Korokon in that same Era would Eritrean Human Rights Records Today reflect a different picture. You see Einstein Theory of Relativity states that Time and Space are One and the Same. Space bends. So if you are part of the expanding Space And Time. You are one. You are part of the Eritrean “Hafash” and victory will be yours. I.e “Awet n Hafash!”

    What is dissapointing in all of you “Einstein” “Awatistas is your inability to bend like space and you seem to conveniently disregard the recognition of “relatively speaking” when you are doing the speaking on a very vital and very critical subject to the Eritrean “Hafash”. The subject is Eritrea–Land And “Hafash”. This forever expanding Eritrean Space (redundant statement). It is not only vital and critical to the Eritrean “Hafash”. As Eritria is Exemplar to the African Continent it is also vital all the nations if this globe.
    I have declared long ago “DaEEmenn Awatista–AlHamduAlaH” but RELATIVELY SPEAKING, quite a few Awatistas are as responsible as the PFDJista in fullfiling Eritrean “Hafash’s” very negative circumstances these days. I am inviting challenges on the how’s in this very forum first. Part of the contribution to the negative is, using PFDJ’s SPIN on Haile DuruE’s word mentioned in this article, is the websites and forum’s utility if “TeTalaQuina”. Counterproductive to progress for Eritrea, Africa AND this GLOBE. Space DOES NOT RETRACT. Now MH would agree with me next time when I say “NO RETRACTION!” And Saay is probably recognizing the synapses firing right now BUT: Although I will first NOMINATE AND VOTE FOR BITEWEDED ABRAHA for Eritrea’s first democratically elected President, in 2001-2002 I wrote, on visafric.com U think, an article nominating SaliH Younus as a better alternative to Usayas Afeworki. I had changed mind back and forth several times, the last time being NOT. So allow me now to RETRACT and say SaliH Younus for President of Erittrea. He is a no nonsense kind of a guy, principled and it is highly probable that he is a good decision maker. SaliH Younus is a lot like Usayas Afewirki in his aggressiveness which is, unfortunately, necessary quality for any President in any nation of this world Today. But unlike the “unpolished “Isayas Afeworki, SaliH Younus’s agressiveness is of the passive aggressive kind–which is also a plus for a any politician. Just look at what he did or what Saay wrote can do to that Muzungu and any opportunist similar Muzungu.

    Before the synapses continue to bombard my brain in order to save the mind and comeback and really address i-SEM’s article subject matter–Thank You. As a reminder to my brain where I am bookmarking my mind (its kinda like “mEinti” mind “tiHlef” brain) allow me to quote from Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.’s Breakfast of Champions (As it is Thanks Giving! Happy Eating:
    => “As for itself, it was entitled “The Dancing Fool. Like so many Trout stories, it was about a tragic failure to communicate.
    Here was the plot: A flying saucer creature Zog arrived on Earth to explain how wars could be prevented and how cancer could be cured. He brought the information from Margo, a planet where the natives conversed by means of farts and tap dancing.
    Zog landed at night in Connecticut. He had no sooner touched down than he saw a house on fire. He rushed into the house, farting and tap dancing, warning the people about the terrible danger they were in. The head of the house brained Zog with a golf club.”

    Another thing SaliH Younus has in common with President Isayas Afeworki is HONESTY! Challenge me if you must. The most important positive trait both Saay and IA have, however, is wide acceptance by the Eritrean “Hafash”. SaliH Younus would make an excellent Eritrean President unless he is excluded by law should he have USA citizenship. Speaking of USA: Happy Thanks Giving!
    Space and time vended this afternoon and through the speakers of my car Public Radio KQED gave a reportage in Nobel Price nominee Humanitarian Aba Musie ZerAy. Thank you Father “Moses”.
    Thank you to General Biteweded for sacrificing his liberty for the pursuit of Human Liberation. I will continue with the most significant thing General Biteweded said in his speech which is …”..It will take another fifty years…” General Beteweded Abraha has carried us half of the time/way (distance or space and time are one and the same) he foretold. Saay won’t mind for bending the Saturday rule as Tomorrow is Thanks Giving. And I-SEM will tell you that Beteweded literally mean House of Love. So as a Thank You to the torch bearer (bQaln bgbrn) the General Betewedwd I will close with Awet nHafash! And with these words from a timely, as Theory of Relativity and Time And Space that is Quintisentialy Eritrean calls for its recollection now: “Hafash ywedebbb bzblll ChiriHo bHzbawi gmmbar temerissritu indihhho, Hafash ynQaH yeTfiE mehayminettt…” Any one has a clip? Happy Thanks Giving All! tSAtSE

  • Rule of Law

    To all Awate staff and readers

    Let’s reflect on this thanksgiving day by being grateful to God who gave us the priceless freedom and functioning sense of organs. There is this amazing 27 year old Eritrean lady by the name of Haben Girma who was deaf and blind at birth but out of sheer determinating, she graduated from Harvard law school with great distinction. One commentator marveled “as if graduating from Harvard was not enough, she is deaf and blind.” Haben is now being honored at the White House. She got to meet Obama and so on but my question is: should each one of us and Haben be thankful on the same wavelength? I can’t imagine what life is like under her skin but I reckon that I have a lot to be thankful about. She is all over the web should you google her. Happy thanksgiving everyone.

    • Dear Rule of Law,
      Seeing and hearing are relative, and it is not as absolute as we might think. There are many who can see and hear the way we know, and yet they live in complete darkness and in a mute world. This lady has an internal world full of light, and a soul full of sounds. Her great achievement is the product of this. She will be the Helen Keller of the 21st century, and I am sure that she will impress the world with her writings.

    • PTS

      Rule of Law,
      Haben’s story is one of great distinction. It is unique. There are millionaires with excellent health but have miserable life and dismal achievement. I say Haben has more to be thankful than them. It is all about one’s attitude and state of mind.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello beloved Awatistas,
    I am still busy for a fulltime chitchat, but I have to say Hello and Happy Thanksgiving.
    It looks like I missed a number of Great articles and discussions lately. I will try to catch up and I will “see” you soon.

    • AOsman

      Dear Fanti,

      Welcome back, well timed too.

      These few days it has been difficult to follow the discussion, Ethio-Eri quarreling and it is now regressing to faulting a whole group. Bitweded being protective of Eritrean ports after 30 years of war to have independence seems difficult to understand by our Ethiopian awatista, even if his position was wrong.

      Regards
      AOsman

      • Berhe Y

        Dear AOsman,

        I know the discussion has been difficult but I don’t agree to conclude that his position was wrong with regards to Ethiopia using Eritrean ports. Based on the short speech we heard, I don’t think one can make a definite assessment and come to conclusion that his position was wrong.

        Another aspect that seem to come is that, he did that because he was a fighter / solider and I don’t think also that’s the reason for his position (anger, lack of diplomacy or what ever is associated for being a solider). Again my take is that, there isn’t enough information to suggest that.

        I do not want to drag back this difficult discussion but I wanted to say that we do not have much information. First I heard about Biteweded was in the radio program some of the oppsition had may be 10 years ago, and I remember Elsa Chyirum had something about him. I searched again, and I found Elsa’s article about him. The article was from 2005 and was updated recently I think.

        In any case, I think it has more information about his arrest and some information what let to his arrest including the issue related to the port of Assab, and Eyob’s “Whisky” :-). I think…thought it was a joke about the whisky.

        http://hrc-eritrea.org/23-years-solitary-confinement-for-a-national-hero/

        To me the conclusion that I make about his ordeal is that, he was right in his position and suggesting that Eritrea and Ethiopia need to establish the relation ship like those terms done between nation states.

        In stead of Isayas said this, Melles said that and we ended up where we ended.

        In the building of the relation ship, I think negotiation would have happened to allow both states to look after their own interest and find common ground to serve them. And in the event that they do not agree, I they would have a mechanism to deal their difference based on the agreements.

        To me as an Eritrean, there is nothing more insulting the Eritrean government / Isayas Afework position to suggest that because we do not have money, Ethiopia to pay the salary of those Eritreans working in the port of Assab. Where Bitweded said, no we are not going to ask Ethiopia to pay the salary of our people we have to pay it our selves.

        Berhe

        • Abi

          Hi Berhe
          I agree Eritrea should have collected every dime in hard currency for the port use. There is no free lunch.
          Again, you are being one sided. The whole debacle happened while you chasing away the ethiopians, while your corrupted and mafia embassy was involved in every kind of criminal activities in broad daylight. It also happened while your business companies suffocating ours. Need I say more? Do I have to mention the money laundering at your embassy, what about the kidnapping and disappearing?let me stop here . I don’t have to bore you with all the criminal activities you already knew.
          In case you forgot you colonized us until 1998. Tell the whole truth. Don’t pick and choose to elevate your hero to sainthood. Isu chisu amele bisu saw the bigger picture than the port use. It was a smart move on his part. IA knew there were more cows to milk. He did not want the guy on his way talking about free port.
          Isayas want to kill the chicken for the cow. Your guy wanted both the chicken and the cow. Now the chicken stopped giving eggs. Time to sell the chicken for any buyer for any price.

          • AOsman

            Abi Nebsi,

            You don’t have to like him, but you can be fair on your assessment.

            Biteweded disagreed with PFDJ from day one, how do you associate him with their activities of the 90s whilst he was in jail.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Abi

            Kibur AOsman
            For the brief period he was in charge
            1. He wanted to steal the property destined to the ethiopian people
            2. He wanted to chock ethiopia because that is how he wanted to punish the killers and murderers.
            He is dead wrong in both . He is vengeful and arrogant. I don’t blame him for his ignorance.

          • tes

            Hi Abi,

            Seraki seraki aybelka, in a sense only a thief says thief. You were and you are a thief.

            tes

          • Abi

            Hi Tes
            You said “… only a thief says thief .” And then Boom!!! You called me a thief.
            What can I say? It must be the thing you are drinking. What time is it ?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,
            Again ?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            I have started to get to know you now. I see sometimes you purposely ignore evidence when presented it to you, if it doesn’t serve your argument and purpose. For example, I sent you the link from ABC which shows the shelling, killing, crying and whaling of mothers and small children “The pure child asks his brothers, are they going to bury us next?” of Massawa and you purposely ignored it. What do you call Ethiopia doing at that time to the Eritrean people, port. Is it not Ethiopia murdering and killing our people. If he calls that, which I gave you as an example for his position at that time, sure you can disagree with him but you can’t deny the fact that, Ethiopia did murder and killed innocent people.

            That’s fine, because you are making a case for your interests, that is everything Eritrea and Eritreans did is WRONG, and everything Ethiopia and Ethiopians do is always RIGHT.

            I brought the example above, because i sensed the conclusion that was made in reference to that speech “Re:Ethiopia is”
            1) He was wrong what he said about Ethiopia
            2) He said that because he was a solider.

            Not only you made your argument, you actually made Eritreans in this forum to believe in that line of thinking without having the full picture what exactly transpired. And that’s my point.

            As to the other points you outlined, you said it many times and you have to find any shred of evidence any sensible Eritrean think the actions of the PFDJ / EPLF regime was right in the first place. I have commented on that many times, and in all instance my conclusion is that, it’s not for Eritrea best interest in the first place, and it was DEAD WRONG.

            Looking at Eritrea pure interest (as I can’t speak Ethiopia interest), this decision of Isayas Afeworki have costed us REALLY a lot, not only in the actual monetary value but worst in the opportunity cost. And looking at Ethiopia’s interest, I will leave it to you to make the judgement if the amount of money spend in expanding the port, building other support mechanism is worth the investment. It may be, I do not know…but in grand of skim the amount of money Eritrea lost, compared to the amount of money the PFDJ muzzled, I don’t think even there is any comparison.

            He is not smart, he thinks he can outsmart Melles and company and the entire world but he is a small time petty thief who can’t see beyond his nose.

            For example, he spend his entire time (all his embassy and his stuff in each country) collecting meager 2% tax, which is by the way spend to support the local embassy and nothing of that money ever gets send to the country to help the poor, build schools or what have you. And these people primary objective is to SPY on Eritrean. In the country that I am, Canada, Eritrea gets nothing in humanitarian AID from Canada because the government of Isayas Afeworki, because he doesn’t want to be accountable where the money is spend, he refuses. Ethiopia on the other hand gets over 200 million dollars annually.

            Now what’s better for Eritrea, collecting the meager 2% tax where the officials have all ways and means to fudge the numbers (for example, you could be working full time and you tell them you are student the charge you student rate (60 dollars a year, real big deal)..but at the same time is losing every opportunity.

            I am not even considering the amount of opportunity that’s being lost because the country is considered non stable, autocratic thus RISK to do business and invest. Instead of 1 Nevsun, Eritrea should have at least 20 to 100 companies…investing in Eritrea.

            Isayas is by far the WORST Eritrean people’s enemy.

            Berhe

        • AOsman

          Dear Berhe Yeman,

          Thanks for the link, I had read part of the story in Tigrigna at assenna after the video release. One may argue that if Eritrea took his stance it could have averted the 1998 war, also it could have complicated the relationship with Ethiopia early before the referendum. It was in Eritrea interest to help TPLF and that included port access. Even though I admire Biteweded for his stance, I am not sure if we have full detail of the deals I would have sided with his position. Either way it was not an easy choice.

          Regards
          AOsman

          • Berhe Y

            Dear AOsman,

            Dear AOsman,

            I agree with you completely, it’s hard to make a judgement without knowing the whole picture.
            You know there is a saying in Tigirina “zBeluKa giberelom way adom gidefelom”, “do you are you told or else leave”. In this case, if Isayas (at the head) that was the decision he made, Biteweded can either do as he was told or he can resign in protest. If he defies the order of the president and went ahead and did it anyway, it’s within the president right to make him accountable and held accountable, he can FIRE him from his position, he can get the AT general to investigate and press charges. This is normal, it happens all the time around the world.

            The problem is, it’s not the president who can pass the sentence and make the judgement.
            That’s the line that never meets, the executive branch and the judicial branch can NOT be under the same person. That’s the whole point of this article, the president, unilaterally decided to put him to jail for over 20 years because he defied his order or took different position.

            And this speech is not about what happened at the port, or what position he took or not, it’s about how the president has defined the rule of law and he is about the law. And he challenged that in the open inside the country, fully knowing what the consequence waiting for him.

            In my opinion, he is being hailed as a hero, because he paid the ultimate sacrifice in order to uphold the rule of law. That’s the problem in Eritrea today. We do not have the rule of a law but a rule of one man.

            Berhe

      • Haile WM

        Dear AOsman,

        the “Ethiopian Awatista” actually are hijacking what this article should be talking about and how the discussion should be, it was about a Hero, who was asking about accountability democracy and freedom.
        The port quarrel i would live to the port people who pretend to know better when it’s about perceived interest of their beloved mother ethiobia, after-all i think i recall the same people justifying Ona massacre…

      • Solomon Haile

        SelamaT AOsman,

        Was he insubordinate to pay decent wages to the volunteer army by utilizing revenues captured in the ports? “Band of Brothers” may have necessitated his disobedience to free wines and spirits to the then transitional government of Ethiopia., It is indeed, as Ahmed has put it for the —/–////(use any descriptive to not get further..) for Ethiopians to get bent out of shape. The fact of the matter is that Beteweds’ unlimitited or indefinit kidnapping now a quarter of a century + is criminal. Crime and Punishment Dostyovski is it… Ahmed Raji.. Yes it is historical…. Islkee gidefuna ab Halewa Alekhaa (you are on watch duty) yIziz Alo meraH Ghantta Kokeb Selam. tSAtSE

        • AOsman

          Tsatse nebsi,

          You have to go easy on me, could not get the first part of your message.

          I totally agree on the criminality of his imprisonment, to a point I feel we have a shared responsibility in the fate of many as we have failed on the push and pull of life that is supposed to give balance and prevent tyranny from reigning. Since you mentioned Ahmed Raji, there an article that speaks volumes on how we allowed the monster to grow with the ….gele ko geru yikhewen…complacency. Only few inquired about Beteweded and he laments about it in the clip.

          What would be sad is if we don’t learn lessons from it….I see the recent weeding and reforming debate as healthy sign that we are there.

          Regards
          AOsman

  • Nitricc

    Hi Ayneta; make “food” of my self? I don’t think you are in good health since the lion of Nakfa reappeared. Since your toothless sense was telling the wrong thing now you are all bend out of shape. I know you are among the few elit that the rules don’t apply to but please begin with salutation. You are not the president of the Agame Univerdity to get away with it. Lol. Now what kind of food should I make for my self?
    My good man Ted said Semere was working in “fool” house, are you trying to say fool?

    • Ayneta

      Nittric:
      Hatew ketew ese aytizareb……why dont you stop exposing your abysmal ignorance about anything Eritrea by calling your idol ‘Lion of Nakfa’. There is no lion in Nakfa…only goats and camels…..call him ‘Goat of Nakfa’ and I will second you wholeheartedly….

  • Kokhob Selam

    Ayneta hawey

    እንድዒ :- የዘናግዓና እዩ ዘሎ መስለኒ ::

    • Ayneta

      Kokheb wedi:
      Adetatna eka zigedefeO kemzi zereba…….hasha tsubuk alo……koynu negeratu…

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Awatistas,

    I just read the discussion between Selam and Bohashem on the document of agreement of the organizations who participate at the Frankfort conference. Selam being skeptic about the outcome of the conference and Bohashem was defending the outcome. The exchange between these two citizens was mature enough, in such a way the format starts with question, and the one who answer to the question in return ask back the opinion of the other. The conversation from the beginning to the end kept the same format in that the flow of the discussion was very smooth. I linked the entire discussion below. What is your take on the discussion and the outcome of the conference?

    http://www.asmarino.com/writer

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Hope

      Yes Ustaz Amanuel Hidrat:
      Thanks for trying to distract the nonsensical bravado and unproductive debate and mud war !
      That is the way a debate and dialogue should be specially among us Eritreans!
      Open,constructive and honest discussion for a better outcome!
      Can we reclaim that kind of debate here @awarte.com and invite those kind of Eritreans/people from all walks of life,including the PFDJ Supporters,the likes of Gheteb,,etc..,without discrimination as Gen Nittric openly lamented
      But you have to be a good example though not to label people as this and that,no matter who they are and irrespective of their background!
      Prof SAAY:
      You are expected to deliberate a FINAL and BINDING ADVICE and Decision on this stupid “them vs us ” bravado between the Ethos (the likes of Abis and Eyobs) and Eritreans!
      For God’s sake,why are you guys putting is on their trap?
      By now,we know who they are and what they are for !
      Please invite some good minded and good intentioned debaters from both sides for a NOBLE CAUSE!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Awatistas,

    I just read the discussion between Selam and Bohashem on the document of agreement of the organizations who participate at the Frankfort conference. Selam being skeptic about the outcome of the conference and Bohashem was defending the outcome. The exchange between these two citizens was mature enough, in such a way the format starts with question, and the one who answer to the question in return ask back the opinion of the other. The conversation from the beginning to the end kept the same format in that the flow of the discussion was very smooth. I linked the entire discussion below. What is your take on the discussion and the outcome of the conference?

    http://www.asmarino.com/writers-corner/4450-a-week-of-conversations

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Eyob Medhane

    VF

    See, here is the difference. We don’t have the audacity to say that we Ethiopians are “hade libi hade hizbi”, as we perfectly know that no two persons can be all the same. Abi never said and implied that ALL Metahit are decent people. He said “in this forum”. The Metahit, who are in this forum are indeed all decent people and devoid of arrogance. The rest of what you had to say is just hit air and I will let it roll off my back…

    • Abi

      Eyobe
      Are you crazy? Hold on to that hot air. It is winter. I’m struggling to start the fire . I can use it. You know what ? Forget about it . I know where that hot air came from.

  • PTS

    V.F. and Tafla,
    Save for the EPLF-ELF conflict that had religious aspect among other factors, the history of the Eritrean people is largely of peaceful co-existence between Christians and Muslims, highlands and lowlands. Even during the sensitive times of the 50s and 60s, Eritrean Christians and Muslims didn’t kill each other. Whatever difference they had ended peacefully. One truth in PFDJ’s propaganda is the peaceful co-existence of the population for generations. It is true except the regime wants credit for that.
    For those who entertain partition, what do you think is the basis for that? Is there Islamo-Christian tension that is threatening Eritrea’s survival? Can the exodus of the youth be traced to that?

  • Nitricc

    Hi All, TPLF did it again. The first victims of robbery were Eritreans 1998. Eritreans were deported from Ethiopia empty hand. They were robbed in a broad day light. They even were told that their color of their eyes wasn’t the right one. Then the TPLF government ignited all out war. This time around the TPLF gangs attacked Kenya and Kenya is forced to close her border. TPLF gangs attacked Sudan and Sudan is just Sudan no bone to stand for. TPLF gangs robbed the Saudi so called investors and all Saudi investors are out. We know the Indians who were paid to get the fertile land of Ethiopia have left with out paying what they borrowed from the poor people of Ethiopia. And now, here it comes, the beginning of the END. There is big demonstration in Ambo, Ethiopia against the TPLF stupid regime. It does not matter where it starts but at the end of the day, TPLF will go down by the people of Gonder.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12274278_983727718330382_7165800899861783640_n.jpg?oh=48c0b8b8049f2d304c8250fd6b20ffe6&oe=56E885B2&__gda__=1457801910_e00091aa8e49ea0e2f97f37a40155fd0

    • Abi

      Hi Nitricc
      Do you think this demonstration move next door to Gonder ? Just kidding. The city just next to Ambo is Guder not Gonder.

    • V.F.

      Hi Nitricc. You must be good in math and imaginary numbers. I looked at your picture and counted 26 people, margin of error maybe plus or minus two. I like your post anyway because I am sure it will send chills through the TPLF cadres here, Abi and Eyob. It’s funny how you care so much for the people of Ethiopia just as much as Eyob does for the people of Kebesa Eritrea. I thought he did but no. Nothing gives him more joy than the suffering of our people. I think we should silence Eyob and Abi first before we go on PFDJ. What do you think?

      • Abi

        Very Funny, VF
        High as always

        The best ways to silence Eyob and Abi are the following
        1- don’t ask the ethiopians to die for you in removing IA
        2- do not insult the people. You can butcher the government.
        3- don’t show us the kebesa arrogance by coming back to rule us. You see it is not that complicated . Have you ever seen the known lowlanders in this forum show arrogance to Ethiopian people? Not a chance. They know what they need , they stand by it. They are all decent people.
        Eyob will give you some more if he thinks you deserve his time.

        • Ted

          Hi Abi, you are catching up well with Eyob’s kebessa/metahit phenomenon . What gives abi, more often than not anti Eritrea thinking(fictions) get traction with in Ethiopians for reason we yet to understand. But you my friend,are special, don’t need much encouragement to do that. if only you knew how dummy you sound talking you have no clue about.. It is funny bit thoug, keep it up.

          • Abi

            Hi Ted
            You know your problem? You are too new in the neighborhood. I’ve been around to notice trends.
            Let me tell you what I definitely know about.
            The lowlanders want only eritrea and peaceful existence with the neighbors. The kebesa want to have both countries. They want to rule both countries. They want to milk cows and camels at the same time. They have always been confused. They want Andinet , federation, independence, back to federation. What is next? What do you want? Most of you got introduced to eritrea when your sorry behind was kicked out of ethiopian cities.
            Ethiopia yegarachin eritrea yegilachin BS.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            “…..The lowlanders want only eritrea and peaceful existence with the neighbors. The kebesa want to have both countries. They want to rule both countries….”

            Perfect!!!!!!!!

            Thank you.. (y)

          • Ted

            Abi, “You are too new in the neighborhood” hahaa, kebale betu belay yemiaweq mindin neew, you know the answer……….. You will never learn with this attitude. After all this time in this university, all you can come up is this. We really failed you. Irrigardless, it is never too late to learn though i seriously doubt that if ever it seeps through your thick heart.

        • PTS

          Abi and Eyob,
          Who in this forum do you say are from lowland? Unless they stated it themselves, you are just profiling based on names, and that could be wrong assumption because there are Eritreans of all kinds from all regions of the country.
          So, go ahead and tell us who they are. Just for fan.

  • Tafla

    Hello Everyone,

    Eritrea, Eritrea…Isn’t it a beautiful name? Am just in Love with the name? What future is there for a nation WHO wants to build a future on a history of oppression, WHO wants to present tribal/secterian historical figures as National heroes. What future is there for this nation? Tutsis and Hutus murdered each other for less bad blood. PFDJ is still untouched, because people know deep down, this nation is untenable.

    I find those talking about Neo-andnet, a bit hyperbolic. There is no Andnet-movement. If there is, it’s bound to fail. The original Bevin-Sforza partition plan is the best way to go. Don’t let former fighter or brats from the small Eritrean elite tell you what to think or feel.

    Best regards
    Tafla

  • dawit

    Dear All,
    The whole article is an effort to create a ‘hero’ out of nobody for the opposition. The so called speech where was it buried all these years? Is this a true speech made by ‘Bitweded’ a name that Assena Radio has been hammering his name for the last 15 years? ! In my opinion this a fake speech made up in Tigrai in 2015, someone gathered few peasants and read a speech fabricated in Mekele When it come to Eritrean heroism nobody can compete with PIA, because he is a true hero dedicated his life to the Hafash Eritrea. By the way the writer of the article forget to edit the slogan ‘Awet Nhafash out of so called ‘Bitweded’s Ad-Mengonti Speech”.
    Awet Nhafash!
    dawit

    • Berhe Y

      Dear dawit,

      I think you should listen to the speech he gave and you can judge for yourself.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MpG-DxLHPY

      Semere/AT,

      It would be nice if you include a link to the video so people can watch as well.

      Berhe

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Selam Berhe Y,

        Dawit would not believe even if he sees the video; I’m sure he has already seen it. People like Dawit turn a blind eye and deaf ears when confronted with issues they are uncomfortable with. They’ve sold their conscience to the gangsters of Higdef. Hitler had his supporters to the bitter end, so did Mengistu; people like Dawit are no different than those fanatics.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Abrahma,

          ዳዊቶም ኣባ ጥረግ “ወላ ትንፈረ እምበር ጤል እያ” ብዙሕ ኣይትድከም ዓርኩ ::

        • Berhe Y

          Dear AH,

          We have to at least try…And I was hoping Dawit will share with us, IA best speech moment from the day he set his foot in Eritrea. I want to be fair, but I can’t think of any, NOT even ONE. I am not kidding, I want to give the devil his due but there is nothing, that I can think of. Where his speech has any hope, hope for peace, hope for prosperity, hope for the future, hope for sunny day…it’s always, dark days, conspiracy, war, enemy,

          Behe

      • Hope

        Dear Berhe,
        BTW:
        Dawit was acting sarcastically!
        He saw the video and listened to it many times!
        But where was the video hiding for 18yrs?
        May be doctored now in Dedebit??!
        But then the Dedebitians do not believe in Reconciliation and Peace though and Ustaz Dawit missed that!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hope,

          dawit believe always on what he says there is no sarcasm in his writing. Rather he always defend them with full energy that no one do like him. If he is, he should tell that it is sarcasm when people heed against his statement like many in this forum do when people miss their intention.

          Second, in your comment to the link I brought for info and if need to to give their take, you react as if we don’t want to debate with PFDJ in a real person and real world in any format they want. You have a wrong perception indeed. To the contrary we always invite them, but they are not of that political culture. You mentioned Ghedeb and some others. In fact when he put himself in the upper ladder of our erudite, I did challenge him that I could arrange a stage for him to face our tough notch intelligentsia we have to debate in a real world about the current predicament of our nation. In fact that call made him to disappear from the forum. It needs stamina and courage to come to the open to debate about the issue of our nation. He failed to do so. Hence, Hope do not lament you could bring them to an open including yourself by the way to deal our issue. Selam and Boheshem are real person in the real world.

          Regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

    • Semere Andom

      Cousin dawit;
      when all said and done, when the dust that you are blowing settles and when the people you tread like dirt rise like dust, you will know where these speech was buried, and also more skeletons , if you would believe it or not is a different matter. Sal shared with you the story about the soldier who was in the wilderness for decades thinking Japan still not defeated, you maybe like that, the question is who will search for your, Eritrea or Ethiopia.
      The writer needed not edit awet nhafash, he was translating not editing like you did with Haile DeruE speech and erasing people’s contribution. But I can understand why you write such none sense because you are paid by how many words you scribble

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    Here’s a song that predicted that the discovery of gold in Eritrea was soon to end the heydays of criminals. It speaks of who people on their empty stomachs couldn’t rise up and fight those who foisted upon them shame and disrespect and inflicted misery and death. The song welcomes the news about the discovery of mines of gold signaling end of sufferings caused by the cruel and criminal leaders. It assures that soon troubles are to fade away with the vanishing of those who led the country to wars and destructions.

    It announces that the country will rise again and break free from those unscrupulous criminals, gangsters and mafias who are masking their disgrace with “Awet nihafash.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-CQhR91dW8

    .

  • Ayneta

    Nittric:

    You talk all this nonsense about Eritrea and you never lived there ? And you have the audacity to say those bogus words of Awet Nihafash, zelalamawi zikri nisemaetatna with such zeal and fervor? You are the worst form of a useful idiot.

    That reminds me of dawit, the other chap useful idiot, who the other day exposed his naivety of Eritrean history by attempting to criticize Saleh Johar for using Woldeab woldemariam’s pen name WelWel, miserably showing his fake knowledge of Eritrean history. You guys are really opportunists and I strongly suspect you are hired by PFDJ as part of its cyber-war again the opposition websites like Awate.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Ayneta, Sudan is getting 2.2 B from Saudi; can you imagine what PIA may have gotten? Here it is another heart break for you, lol it gets worst for you. so, so afar, dawit and I were serving for free but since all this hard currency is hitting Eritrea as snow storm, we shall get paid gainfully. There is a reason for financial structuring and issuing new currency in Eritrea. real headach for you, lol
      Wetru Awet Nahafash.
      Eternal glory to our martyrs!
      Long live the lion of Nakfa

  • Ted

    Hi Semere, is it your problem with who said it, or the meaning of the phrase. The fruit of their martyrdom belong to all of us not IA or PFDJ.You became the prisoner of your own making, the hate for PFDJ. Would you say glory to martyrs post isayas. i am sure you will but what is your problem using it now when required to so. Own your history, coward!!!!:-)

    • Semere Andom

      Ted:
      When Mahmuday finished milking his camel he used to say alhamdu-Allah for the bounty of the milk, a camel eats plant processes it to milk, jela-jelalak Rabbi-Alalemin he used to say. Now if I take him back and make him milk the camel, he would say awet nhafash:-)
      I wonder what did they say in Addis after compleng the task of milking:-)))
      Now a run down of my history:
      It is the one that stood up to annexation
      the one that stood up to injustces and that predated your awet nhafash hisotry, and mnzaz reEssi mnzza

      • Ted

        Hi Semere, i am getting the vibe you were gangester/activist/ opposition/weyane lover before my parents contemplated about milking cows down south. What a resume according to you rundown story. I believe you, old habit die hard.
        Camel milk and awet nehafash go hand in hand; our emblem is camel, get it. You have a problem with camel too. If you do, no politics, it will be personal with the Greatest. Consider yourself warned!!!!!!!!!
        I have bad news for you. You have no audience for your new definition of Eritrean resistance, may be in meqele. i wonder if they have Awet nihafash encrypted somewhere on Nakfa notes. We should!!!!!!!!

        • Semere Andom

          Ted:
          Let me admiit, i was exposed to gangsgter activism in the EPLF youth movement, I was too smart so I quit. Wht were u doing at that time?
          ALso sgtay away between me and Mahmuday, the nuances of camel milk is beyond your league, he Mahmuday, the great knows what I was saying about that, so do not go there creating wedge in something beyond your comprehension. Do not be offended by the beyond reference, cus we all have our beyonds, example anything about qat is beyond my understanding .
          So Tedrwos, let us stick to our own so our own can accept us:-)
          wegaElekka( gebah)???

          • Ted

            Hi Semere, if you had not told me your youth activism back in the days, i would assume you were a water boy in sudanese ful-ful house. I am glad you quit back then and i am glad you moved to meqelle now. “the nuances of camel milk” my bad, i will let you have that connection. Actually i wasn’t taking about what you consider “the nuances of camel milk” but your dislike whatever EPLF considers special including camel. awet ne hafash.

  • Kokhob Selam

    ክቡር ዓይነታ:-

    እዚ ዛንታ ናይ ብሓቂ እዩ : – ኣብ ተጋድሎ ሓርነት ኤርትራ ብርጌድ 77 ካብ ዘነበሩ ተጋደልቲ ከረጋግጹልካ ድማ ተስፋ ይገብር::

    ከምዚ ሎሚ ከይኮነ ጻሕጋር መሪሕነት ህግሓኤ (ሻዕብያ)ን ወያኔን ተዛርየን ኣንጻር ጀብሃ ኩናት እናካየዳ እንከለዋ ዝተመዝገበ ዛናታ እዩ : ኣብ ልዕሊ ‘ቲ ሰፊሕ ጎቦ ኩጀታት ዝዓጀበኦ ደብረሰላ ኣብ ሾንኮለል ቀኒና :: ወይ ንሰን ኣይወርዳ ወይ ንሕና ኣይንወርድ ኮለል ኮነ :: ኩጀትና ይሕዛ ኩጀተን ንሕዝ – ብሰንኪ ድኹም ወተሃደራዊ ምሕደራ ክሳብ ተሳቂና ንወርደለን ከኣ ሓውሲ ጸዋታ ቆልዑ ዝዓይነቱ ትርጉም ኣልቦ ኩናት ተኻየደ :: ሓንቲ መዓልቲ ካብ ‘ቲ ሒዝናዮ ዝነበርና ደፊአን ኣልገሳና’ሞ ካብ ቲ ዝቀንናሉ ደብረ ሰላ ኣልጊስና ንድሕሪት ተመልስና ::ንሳልስቱ እቲ ስትራቴጅ ብኻልእ ሸነኽ ብዝነበረ ኩናት ተጸልወ ‘ሞ ክስሕባ ትእዛዝ መጺእወን ነቲ ድፋዕ ግደፈን ኣዝለቓ : ንሕና ደማ ብዘይኩናት ተመልስናዮ:: ኣብዚ እዩ እቲ ኣስካሕካሒ ተግባራት መራሕቲ ኩናት ጴጥሮስ ሰሎምንን ዓሊ ስዒድን (ረቢ ይሳምሓዮ) ዝርኣኹ ::

    ነቶም ቅድሚ ሳልስቲ ተሰዊኦም ዝተረፉ ብጾትና ነቲ ሓደ ሒዝዎ ዝነበረ ወረቃቅቲን ስእልን በጣጠስዎ ነዚ ብጻይና ድማ ካብ ቲ ጎቦ ንታሕቲ ወርወርዎ :: ነቶም ካልኦት ኣይቀበርዎምን – ኣብ ዘለውዎ ጸነሑና :: እቲ ኣዝዩ ዝገረመንን ፍጹም ኣብ ዘይዕረቕ ጨካን ስምዒት ኣብ ልዕሊ ‘ ዚ ዕዋላ መሪሕነት ዘሕደረለይ ግን ነቶም ናይ ገዛእ ርእሶም ስውኣት ዝፈጸምዎ ኢሰብኣዊ ተግባራት እዩ :: ንሓደ ካብኦም ሓንቲ ኢዱ ኣውጺኦም ካብ መሬት ንላዕሊ :- ኣጻብዕቲ ብዑሙኹ ገደፍዋ :: ብጣዕሚ ተገሪመ – ንሓደ ካብ ዓበይቲ ተጋደልቲ ሓተትኩ : መልሱ ድማ ” እዚ -ዓወት ንሓፋሽ- ዝብል ጭርሖ እዩ :- ከምዚ ንስኻ ኣስካሕኪሕካዮ ዘለኻ ክትደሃሉ ዝተገብረ ሽጣራ እዩ ” በለኒ :: ድሕሪ ገለ ሰሙናት ውን ሓደ ካብ ተጋደልቶም ናብ ሓይልና ዝመጸ ሓተትኩዎ :ተመሳሳሊ መልሲ ሃበኒ: ሽዑ ናብ ፈጣሪ ተማህለልኩ ነዞም ቁሩብ ደም ዘይብሎም መራሕቲ መዓት ከውርደሎም ::ግን ሕጂ ድማ የሕዝኑኒ :: ኣየ ዓወት ንሓፋሽ !

    ተመሳሳሊ ሕጂ ከዘንትዎ ዘይደሊ እከይ ተግባራት ብዙሕ እየ ርኤ :: ንመዓንጠኦም ዘይቆጸሩን ዘይለበሙን ደቂ ሃገር – ” ብዓወት ንሓፋሽ” ኣስኪርካ ኣብ ሓዊ ኣእቲኻ ምንባር ገበን እዩ :: ብርግጽ እዚ ዝዓይነቱ ካብ ባህልን ስርዓትን ህዝብና ዝረሓቐ ጽያፍ ተግባራት፡ ኣእምሮ መሪሕነት ህግሓኤ ርቡሽ:- ዘይሰላማውን ሓደገኛን ምንባሩ ዘመላኽት እዩ ::

  • Semere Andom

    Dear V.F
    Thanks so much and welcome back. Actually as my fingers typed divergent views, I remembered you ;-).
    Yes, Bitweded is one of the casualties of IA’s clique.
    I was moved by the speech for its departure from the Ghedli language for his unflinching courage to say it from inside the belly of the monster, knowing well he will be reported. There is no fear in his voice, he exuded conviction in what he said. The speech must be translated to Arabic and Tigrayit if possible, at least into 3 Eritrean languages. It is unprecedented in several levels and I hope it will immortalized in a monument that will honor true heroes
    I know some made big deal of the killers and murders, but his massage was about PFDJ and not Ethiopia, he just explained why he was imprisoned.
    As he said there are many like him, there are some Eritrean, freedom fighters who were imprisoned in 1980s still in prison. He remembered them by saying, I am just one, there are thounds

    • Abi

      Hi Sem
      You said,” I know some made big deal of the killers and murderers, but his massage was about pfdj and not Ethiopia.

      This is your hero’s exact words as translated by you.
      “We should not sell out and compromise our ports to our killers and murderers, that is what I said…”

      Now , which one shall I believe? I appreciate your help in sorting out the confusion.
      I hope you understand why I was angry about the speech of you hero or your translation.
      Yeqenyeley.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Abo,

        ተባረክ ! ኣሁን እየተመለስክ ነው :: ኣንተ ኣንዳንዴ ያማሃል ልበል ? ምነው መርቅነሽ ነበር! ሳቅ ኣቦ !

        • Abi

          Kokobe
          Yet heje neber? Andande yemayamew keyet yigegnal?
          BTW, I was at Eyobe ‘s wedding at Sheraton Addis. There was plenty black label, blue label, green label. The guys at the port confiscated only the red label. They didn’t know the other labels.
          Yemin Tela new yemitaweraw
          Bun adrgo new sewun yeshegnew.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abiti,

            Ha ha ha ha ha .. That was funny..:-) I actually remember that there was plenty color of “labels” at my wedding, it was left to accommodate yours, which was only a week later at Sherato. You still didn’t pay me for them…. 😉

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            እሺ በቃ :: ግን እኮ ጠላን የሚወዳደር መጠጥ የለም :: የጎጃሙን ኣልቀመሽዎም ኣቦ !

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Fara Gojame!
            You missed tthe ” worq”
            Eyob bebuna meche yitamal
            WeqTo , fechto gud yafelal
            Abi lebuna meche yitamenal
            Aqolalu lay yasarirewal

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abye,

            ቆሎ እየቆረጥምክ ያጠናሀው ቅኔ ወጣ :: ቆይ ግን – ኣንተ ! ኣማራ ሳይንት ሄደህ ነበር?

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Abi:
        Genzebka:
        Again it was not about you

        Are you blaming him for asking for a better deal for his country,you want to condemn him for 50 years in Ela -Ero and 10 years in hard labor in the coffee farming:-)
        Justice, reconciliation and forgiveness are universal, if he believed them between him and PFDJ and of Of course he would believe them between Eri and Ethiopia.
        You are expecting coolness from a soldier who came from Massa cluster bombing, while you are not worried about words. Sal what is the Egyptian Arabic word for “esykoti::-)

        Why are Amde and FG silent, the most reasonable Ethiopains, nay, nay the most reasonable awatistas

        • Abi

          Hi Sem
          It was about ethiopia unless you convinced me there was another party used the port.
          One semi- convincing point you mentioned is he is a soldier just off of a battlefield. That I understand.

  • Nitricc

    All Hi, when ambassador Shin asked what was his main observation about Ethiopian and Eritrean people, he said “they both are rigid” and they have no idea about “compromise” I thought about it and it was difficult for me to agree or disagree with Shin’s take. I have never lived in either country so; I can’t render my opinion one way or the other. However; this thread might have conformed Shin’s observation.
    Why don’t you accept the truth and let the truth guide to you?
    What is the truth?
    The Truth is the best thing that could have happened to Ethiopia, happened, the war between TPLF and Eritrea. If those two Tigringa speakers were able to compromise, show flexibility and carryon; they could have ruled and looted Ethiopia for ever and ever and Ethiopians destiny was sure to be the second citizens on their own country. But lucky for Ethiopia, and thanks to rigidity of Eritrea and an absolute greed of TPLF that led to all out war that claimed thousands of lives.
    What amazes me to no end is after all that there are still people like VF and Semere who are dreaming and salivating at their proposal for integration with Ethiopia. Their idea of integration is not for mutual benefit of the two people and country but for obvious reasons, to take advantage from the Ethiopians because the power holders are Tigryans and they speak the same language as theirs i.e. we are closer to them, in other words back to the same situation of early to late 90s.
    Not only it is sick thinking and wrong reasoning; but don’t we try that before and we ended up with huge war, enormous blood shade, suffering and hating each other for considerable future? Then why take the same path that did us incredible damage?
    At least let’s learn from what worked and didn’t and learn from it.
    Ideally, mutual benefit and mutual development plan is the best for moving forward but there are many circumstances that wouldn’t make it work. So; for now, the best and the right thing to do is, for Ethiopians, to mind their business and get the hell out of Eritrean land and for the Eritreans, get rid of the so called Ethiopian oppositions and mind your on freaking business
    Although the Tigryans are not ready to let Eritreans go for obvious reason. As the Mzungu Hermun, shared with us, when he tried to do “track II diplomacy” between TPLF and Eritrea; the problem he encounter was that the Eritreans don’t trust the Tigryans because if TPLF don’t get what they want they will not implement the border verdict and the Ethiopians don’t trust the Eritreans because once the Tigryans implement the border decision, then the Eritreans walk away. Walk-away! Walk away?
    Is this mean TPLF is refusing to implement the border decision because they don’t want Eritreans to go away? If you read the Ethiopians article on this forum; they never failed to tell that Eritreans won’t let Ethiopia leave alone but as you can see, they are the once who are infatuated beyond in the name of the border.
    It is understood and the reason TPLF won’t let the Eritreans walk away is crystal clear but at the end of the day; it is better for both country to walk away in their separate ways.
    Simply put the emotional labor is out of tolerance to big to handle. Anything different; I guess you guys are ALL HI on something.

    • Dear Nitricc,
      It is a pity that you have the audacity to insult the intelligence of about 80% of the Ethiopian population, by saying that you could have ruled and looted Ethiopia, and Ethiopians would have been second class citizens in their own country, only if Tigrigna speakers could compromise and cooperate, as they did
      in the early 1990s. Provided that you said that you never lived in any of the two countries (which I doubt), I ascribe it to your ignorance. The only thing that could have happened would have been a raging fire that would have engulfed the whole region, including Eritrea. Those were the years you showed your true nature, and it is a lesson Ethiopian will never forget. You better know, the years of their innocence is gone forever, and what you will get from Ethiopia in the future depends on what you deserve.
      You fail to understand that you have already walked away, but the problem is that you have nowhere to go. Nevertheless, መንገዱን ጨርቅ ያርግልህ።

      • Nitricc

        Hi Horizon; you don’t believe me listen to her and i will get back to you. if you have some courage please tell the forum what the song is about. My friend, you are the one you have no where to go. As Eritreans, we washed off our hands. Go ahead tell the forum.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmnpnNvqHJ8

        • Nitricc,
          Whatever this lady might be saying, why is it necessary to have the courage to tell the forum about the song? Unfortunately, my knowledge of the
          language is limited; otherwise I would have been happy to do so. Why don’t you tell us yourself, you who have never lived in Ethiopia, and yet, you seem to understand the song.
          You say you washed off your hands, but your feet speak differently. Your young are abandoning you and they are running to the country you so much hate, even as you shoot at them. What does this tell you? No one believes what you say.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Horizon,

            ኣቶ ከበደ ሚካኤል ምን ኣሉ ? ” ጽድቅና ኩንኔ ቢኖርም ባይኖርም ከክፋት ደግነት ሳይሻል ኣይቀርም “ይህ ቦታና ግዜ የማይሽረው ኣባባል የኛን መጭው እድልም እንዲሁ መሆኑን ይነግረናል ስለዚህ :

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAQh3BxA9g0

          • God bless you, Kokhob Selam. As long as there are people like you, there
            is hope. Poets have gentle souls. They understand life better than most of us.
            Thanks God there are poets.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horizon; don’t you worry about our youth; we are sending them for economic and development reasons, While yours are the 80 % of your people are killed, hunted and humiliated by the 6% of the elite. You talk about insulting people, um, um, no sir, I am not the one insulting you; you are! I have told you exactly how I sow it, and you have the nerve to tell me I am insulting you. Sir, you don’t need my insult, already the minority junta is bending you like no other. This is just them, the Tigryans; and my point is can you imagine if Eritreans were to join them? If you can not see it, I can not help you and you deserve what is coming to you.
            If I can find a way to understand what the singer is saying; I am sure, you can do the same. Interest is contagious, show some.

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Horizon:
        I agree with you on Nitricc’s hate and wilful blindness. But I disagree on the Ethiopian’s innocence.
        None of us are innocent in the context you are using it, both peoples are innocent in terms of the crimes, the crimes belong solely to the leaders at the helm at the different stages.
        But there was no innocent when HS annexed Eritrea, it was calculated, shrewd, backstabbing and betraying and divisive. There was no innocence when Eritreans highlanders voted for union, they were looking for their own interest shrewdly, yes sometimes swayed by their leaders. there was nothing innocence when the lowlands voted for separation, they were looking for religious and regional and cultural leaders.
        there was no innocence when TPLF supported Eritreans in their independence and there was no innocence when TPLF and PFDJ went to war. There was no innocence when you allowed us to go to universities in Addis, you were looking to keep us
        And there was no shred of innocence then Eritrean s were slaughtered in their homes and streets and bombed with Russian borrowed planes.
        so let us tell the truth, both of us, Eritreans and Ethiopians
        When PMZ allowed IA to do allthe dirty work in Addis, black markets ans all,, he knew, it was not innocence, we have this saying in Eritrea: “Zbie kssab zddelwo yhnkos”, the hyena limps until it suits him.
        what innocence did the Ethiopia’s lose?

        • Dear Semere Andom,
          When I said innocence, it was in relation to the people, not the elites or politicians. There is no way one can bestow the quality of innocence upon the types of people you described; nowhere in the world. All crimes belong to the elites and politicians and not to the people.

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Selam Semere,

          I think the relationships between the EPLF/PFDJ and the Ethiopian gov. in the 1990’s could best be described as a symbiosis, most importantly it was executed without the consent of the two peoples. It was not rooted on a fundamental understanding of long term strategic relationship; it was similar to their relationships during the struggle against the Derg. When PMZ was pressed on the issue of harmful trading activities by Eritreans in Ethiopia, he was defending it by pointing to the fact that Ethiopia was allowed to use Eritrean ports at reduuced costs and it was paying in Birr, instead of the hard currency for the services. Any relationship that is not based on openness and legal treaties cannot survive the test of time, and that is what we witnesed when the war broke out.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Abraham
            Beautifully said.
            Thank you

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Abe:
            what you said is true, and Horizon explained, I may have expanded his innocent reference

          • Adulis

            HI Abraham,
            There are some people I like to read their opinions. You are one of them. You seem as if you are searching for the truth and sharing the truth with others.I always sense truthfulness, deepness, and innocence in your views. Keep it up, buddy!

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Adulis,
            Thank you for the kind words; they are uplifting.-)

      • Eyob Medhane

        Horizon,

        I refuse to believe that you’re naive to know this. The “opinion” that you had to respond to is actually a very widely held belief of particularly Kebessa (highland Christian Eritreans) belief. That is how most of them think of us. These days, usually that “opinion” is said with a “nice” sound words wrapped up. It was just said openly and forcefully by the person that you had to respond to. Unfortunately, it is this hate that is driving them to the cliff and on the way of extinction. But, just remember, everytime, Amanuel reminisce about his good old days of “recruiting” Eritreans who lived in Ethiopia to fight Ethiopia or Semere referred Ethiopians, as “Eritreans and Tigreans”, then comes up with an after thought “eh…I mean Ethiopians” they had such resentment, “niqet” and hate in their minds…

        • Abi

          Hi Eyobe
          The mass mobilization movement ihas changed to mass exodus. The experts who started it are watching the fruits of their labor from a distance . According to the kebesa constitution the mass mobilizers drafted in their hay days, kebesas have the right for self extinction.
          Read the constitution at Awate . You will find it in Tebeges or tegaz or something like that . I don’t know the right wording. I think it is Tebesabes. I am not sure. Anyway, you have to respect their choices.
          BTW, do you know the founder and chairman of the mass mobilization movement is a born again ChristIan? He used his God given ” lisan ” to communicate with his fellow kebesa Christians . He told them that they are unique, special, they should rule the world, they have the right for self extinction .They listened. He said ” ajoka!”
          My favorite bumper sticker reads
          “Dear God, Please Protect Us From Your Followers.” I say Amen!

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            You got it. Honestly, compared to the Kebessa, you have to admire most Metahit slick political skill and restraint to be racist and resentful against Ethiopia. Can you imagine of a Kebessa singing “Merkato Sefere”, as Abdu Kiar did, especially at the time he did sing it about thirteen years ago? Or as peaceful as Kohkob Selam is? Or as open minded and comfortable on their skin as Gash Saleh or Sal? (Forget Sal, he is a closet Amhara., 🙂 ) Or as many other Metahit (low land Eritreans) especially these days? You know, I don’t know the details, but I read somewhere that at the end of Derg era, representatives of the Metahit went to Mengistu Hailemariam bravely and publically to ask Mengistu for a peaceful resolution of the Eritrean conflict. One can agree or disagree with them and their motives. But, you have to admire their calm demeanor and political skill, not withstanding with the fact that they ignited the conflict with ELF. I know many lowland Eritreans, who have no problem what so ever to claim their Habesha heritage comfortably. I am not generalizing, but an opponent, who know themselves and restrains themselves should be admired than an opponent, who is totally consumed by hate.

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            About 3 years ago, I started a drinking game where every time you mention:

            1. Kebesa
            2. Highlanders
            3. Christian
            4. Extinction

            I would have a drink. Now, I am attending an AA meeting.

            Give it a rest, man. You have this uncanny ability to be wrong about everything when it comes to Eritrea. It is quite amazing actually. The Metahit people you are admiring for trying to strike a deal on the eve of Eritrea’s independence are now political lepers, shunned by all Eritreans. Abdu Khiar’s “Merkato Sefere” song had nothing to do with him being highllander or lowlander (he is highlander, btw) other than that he is Addis born-and-raised and he was homesick in Saudi Arabia. And I am not a closet Amhara, I am an East African, extemely at home in Eritrea, Ethiopia and Sudan. I recommend a long sabbatical for you at Asmara: everything you think you know is wrong.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            I hope you’re not drunk now, while you are talking to me. 🙂 Thank you for correcting me on Abdu Khiar, but my point still stands. (By the way I also thought once, Ato Hamdnaca was a highlander, and it turns out he was not.. 🙂 ) I will try to research about those Metahit people what they did and why they now became “political lepers”. That, know very little about…If you can, please tell me..

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            If you, by your own admission, “know very little” about a subject, shouldn’t u stop talking about it as if you are an expert? U claim to be proud of your Habesha heritage and Habesha Heritage 101 is humility. Ask.

            Now, on that subject, there is a video of your “lowlander” heroes (incidentally, that’s another thing of many u are wrong on: it was highlanders and lowlanders) making their pitch to the Derg on “Ras Gez” (autonomous administration) on YouTube. Check out Aida Kidanes channel (no she is not a Christian hifhlander so don’t go crazy again).

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            I gave you an inch and you decide to take the whole yard.. I said I did not know much ABOUT the people, who went to Mengistu. News from that time describe ALL of them as Lowlanders. So I choose to go by that. I will check out Aida’s Chanel…Thank you for the tip and a whole lot condescending scoffing at me.. 🙂

          • Abi

            Saay,
            You said it is the highlanders and the lowlanders making their pitch…. You see the problem? If it was only the lowlanders, it wouldo have a higher probability of success.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            Not only that, the news from that time, including ETV, describes them as LOWlANDERS. Both in Amharic and Tigrigna. Aida Kidane’s Chanel has a lot of videos which I didn’t have time to review. But guess, what? To make your very valuable point, there is a video, which shows that in Sudan’s refuge camp, folks, who most probably are highlanders (I heard names like WoldeMichael and another one Nirayo) Condemning and up in arms in opposition to the “pitch”. So you may be right. If it was only the affairs of the Metahit, who knows? They probably would have succeded. Now duck. Sal is going to throw something and hurt both of us.. 🙂

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            You just make my case. Did ETV tell you about the mass protest at Eritrean refugee camps against the Ras Gez engineers? I am guessing not.

            I care about u. And it’s painful to watch ur aggressive ignorance about Eritrea. It really is.

            Saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            That was different. I saw that video actually a long time ago. That was a member of negotiating team, that was led by Dr. Ashagere Yigletu, complaining that EPLF used Arabic during the negotiation. It has nothing to do with the folks, who came to Mengistu to make the “pitch”. That actually makes mine and Abi’s point. Those, who went to Mengistu were not complainers, as opposed you know, who. (I didn’t want you to reach for your glass again) 🙂

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            You know Dr Ashagre Yigletu’ nick name?
            Ashatre Yidebqu.
            Why did the refugees protest? There are already three generations of refugees in Sudan . I don’t get it . It must be the highlanders thing.

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            ” Mewdeden wededkut yante yaregegnin. ” ( modified from Muluqen Melese)

          • አዲስ

            Hi Saay,

            An honest question here: Is there such thing as an Eritrean hero without the measure of his struggle against Ethiopia? I hope there will be in the future, but as it is now is that possible?

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            To help me with whether I should give you a long list or longer list of heroes, when u say “Eritrean hero” are you talking about the history of the people who now live in Eritreas political map (regardless of time) OR people baptized “Eritreans” by colonial Italy in 1890?

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            Considering the subject is this Bitweded guy, focus on 1890 to gedli and may be till now. Rather than giving me list of “heroes” focus on those whose heroism isn’t measured by their struggle against Ethiopia. I am more interested to learn about those heroes.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            Do you find this definition of hero acceptable:

            “A hero is a person or character who, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, displays courage, bravery or self-sacrifice—that is, heroism—for some greater good.”

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            Definitely. I am attempting to see Eritrea by itself as a country. For better or worse, a good portion of people I talk to and read from Ethiopia believe that, the story(or narrative?) of Eritrea was/is and will be defined by its survival struggle with Ethiopia. This is also supported on Eritrean side by all the non-stop talk from PFDJ(legitimizes almost everything including its power with its fight against Ethiopia) and few from the opposition about Ethiopia did/and isdoing this and that against us….

            I always wonder why I don’t hear that much about those “heroes of Eritrea” whose heroism is not related to Ethiopia. Thus the question, do they exist?and if I add one more on that, do they come in good enough number that without the “against Ethiopia” rhetoric, can the Eritrean narrative exist?

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            I got you covered, bruh 🙂

            You might want to read Tekeste Negash’s “No Medicine for the Bite of a White Snake: Notes on Nationalism and Reistance in Eritrea, 1890-1940.”

            There you will read the story of Bahta Hagos (he is the one reponsible for the idiom “no medicine for the bite of a white snake”); his son Gebremedhin Bahta; Nuri (no last name except identifying him as Asaorta), Kentiba Gilamikael (of Godait), Blatta Gebre Ignizbher of Tzada Kristian and Aberra of Hamssien. Of the latter, your emperor Tikur Sew supposedly said, “ke shi amhara, ahnd Aberra.”:)

            And these are from the highlands area only. When SGJ is done chain smoking 15 cigarettes at an Ethiopian cafe with wifi, then he can update us what Arabic literature says of lowlander uprising.

            Ethiopia’s role in all of these uprisings is….what else but “complicated”:)

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            Let’s leave the countless heroes of Ethiopia for now 🙂 I wouldn’t come to you for that information 🙂 This whole ask is about disassociating “Eritrean heroes” from Ethiopia, for a good cause of course 🙂

            So the individuals you mentioned here and the uprising against Italians, was it for independent Eritrea? or since you mentioned the admiration of Menelik to Aberra here and I heard somebody mentioned that book as talking about Ethiopian nationalism, were they pro Ethiopia?

            I am thinking about this a little bit more and Dawit Isaak come to mind. Wouldn’t you say he is a hero?

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Selamat Addis:

            You told me to disassociate it from Ethiopia: that is, as I understood it, the heroism cannot be an expression of enmity to Ethiopia. According to some of your countrymen, that that is the only time Eritreans show their heroism: I was trying to show that is false. Some have even mocked the very idea that Eritreans ever resisted Italian rule (banda, etc.)

            Now, if you want to talk about heroes that have stood up to the Isaias Afwerki regime, there are too many to mention. Really. Moreover, as Serray and Semere used to say, when the Isaias Afwerki regime crumbles, we will be shocked by two things: (a) the extent of its cruelty and (b) the number of people who died heroically fighting it. For that, edme y’habena.

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            I get how you understood my request for disassociation. It’s partly that and more into a narrative of Eritrea by itself. As the struggle against IA is still in-progress, telling of the stories of Eritrean heroes will come in due time. edme y’habena indeed. Amen to that. But indulge me if you will, add some more names to that list, I will try to learn about them as time permits.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            It’s actually a good idea, for us to remember that Eritrea is not just a land of victims and victimizers but heroes too. Unfortunately Eritreans are so divided right now, to elevate someone to a hero status to immediately invite the wrath of those opposed to whoever is doing the nomination.

            There is also the Americanization of the word “hero” where now it means anyone whom one admires regardless on whether that “hero” has done anything heroic.

            And of course I do want u to consider why we admire our tegadelti as heroes. A person who sacrifices himself to protect his/her comrades is the very definition of a hero, regardless who s/he is protecting his/her comrades from.

            saay

          • Fnote Selam

            Saay,

            Here is a recent twit from a person i actually think is one of the more reasonable ethios when it comes to Eri (yet he has to say this..)

            Ethiopian Facts ‏@101Ethiopia Nov 4

            There was no single anti Italian movement in #Eritrea until the allied forces march to Asmara. The only place without independence movement.

            FS.

          • saay7

            Hey Fnote:

            If he is as reasonable as you say he is, then snag what I wrote and share it with him:) What is the point of attending a university if you don’t share knowledge with the less fortunate? Moreover, nowadays with the internet making old books available for free, you might want to google Tekeste Negash’s “No Medicine for White Snake” and share it with him.

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Sal:
            I wrote a response to Ted regarding his belligerence, then I decided against it, it was too cruel.
            But when I read yours, I will tell this;
            The errand boy in the-sheiks and Suads and Kadijah and Aliyas, tell your friend Ted all these were Eritreans. Also the earning money from the errand boy did not go to rent, as there was no need for that or to cell phones, it want to buy the magazine “Semer”, not Semeere for Sitt–Nur because Letebrhan did not read Arabic;-) Because you cannot give your crush qatt or take her to movies, the errand boy would go to her place to watch the Egyptian “meselsel” and give her the magazine, in it, a letter in the mutilated Arabic, she would laugh and offer corrections, “yah habeshi” she would joke. Later, after he became illiterate in Arabic and he would reply to that joke in “anna aktera urribetten”
            All these informed the errand boy, the jellabiay donning errand boy that is his cultural orientation, becoming a better Eitrrean, that Eritrea, is note just a mere where you go after you are deported.

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, water boys are the dedicated and untiring bunch of ful ful house team. Unfortunately they never get the order right in one food menu establishment to be a server. Some of us just don’t have it or as IA would say, some don’t deserve the freedom to think;-).
            Awet nihafash shouldn’t be only about our revolution or our past. If i remember correctly what you want for Eritrea politics, you would vote for a group having a plat form ( give and take one or two) socialist, progressive, democratic, justice in its name and action. In my book awet nehafash is all those things. It can be labeled lefties but it doesn’t change what it means. Of course, in a wrong hand it sounds awful as we see it now. Bernie Sanders has the same problem defining what the mass(people) ought to own and dictate as opposed to a few special groups ; election, budget and policies. What he saying is awet nehafash.

          • saay7

            Hi Ted:

            It’s Thanksgiving…we will cover that (including how every innocent who was ever made to disappear was first accused of being “anti-Hafash”) when the chairman convenes TBS. But now, why is everyone pretending not to notice the Warriors and how they are destroying NBA records. There was a New York Times article entitled “Even Ballet Dancers Are In Awe of Stephen Curry’s Moves” A must-read for this lazy Thanksgiving day as the big bird slowly burns:)

            http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/sports/basketball/artistry-of-stephen-curry-with-golden-state-warriors.html?_r=0

            saay

            * The Cleveland Who?:)

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, GSW, is it 16-0, i am not impressed. looking back the Larry Bird, Magic johnson and Michael jordan’s team DNA, your guys (what you call Tesfanews guys) are kiddies that fall apart against good line up, they barely survive against the lone KinG.

            Speaking of Thanks giving, TBS and macy’s parade ,TBS needs to think about the design of its float, Women with all their glory.TBS appointed women to be the forefront of governance and management of the country, there is a movie coming out by spike Lee Chi raq, about solving the black neighbourhood turf war. The theme: influence of women with slogan” lock it up” exercising their power in a lawless chicago. We Eritreans on the hand have a whole lot more exprience and talent in Women’s department to do the job in no time. And AN the slogan, don’t fight it, it will sound and feel appropriate when our sisters and mothers use it at the helm.

          • saay7

            Hey Ted:

            no. you. dihnt.

            We know that in US, the best in the US is always equated as “the best in the world.” While there is a lot of hyperbole in this claim, this syllogism works for basketball:

            1. The US basketball team has won the gold in every olympic game except 2004.
            2. Therefore, the best basketball players in the world play for American teams;
            3. The Golden State Warriors hold the record (actually broke the record) for being the best basketball team.

            Man, all that reference to Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan is pure nostalgia. Back in those days, they used to have a handful 3-point specialists. I remember the Lakers used to bring Cooper and Byron Scot just to shoot 3-pointers. Now everyone and his cousin can shoot 3-pointers. The dunks are more spectacular now; the players simply superior.

            You are not impressed with 16 straight wins? As sports journalists Justin Bariso wrote last week, “It’s an enormous challenge to win games in the National Basketball League, where the worst can beat the best on any given night.” And these guys are doing it EVEN THOUGH THEIR HEAD COACH IS ON A LEAVE OF ABSENCE. Why? It is the culture he instilled, which they define as follows:

            The first one and the most important one is probably joy–he wants us having fun. It’s a long season, this game’s meant to be fun. There’s mindfulness. There’s compassion–for each other and for the game of basketball. And then there’s competition.
            When we hit those four things, we’re not only very tough to beat, but we’re very fun to watch, we’re very fun to coach, we’re very fun to be around.

            http://www.inc.com/justin-bariso/the-golden-state-warriors-made-nba-history-last-night-heres-what-you-can-learn.html

            When I read the above, for whatever reason, I was thinking of Nitricc. I don’t really know why. Probably because he is always quoting leadership lessons.

            But my favorite: the asst coach says that it is inevitable, at some point we will lose. The reporter asks Curry. His response: “I doubt it. I highly doubt it.” And so it is not just the team, it is the amazing talent, drive, self-confidence and work ethic of Curry

            That’s right: he is going for 70. And your King will be watching it in Ohio with his tongue dangling, like a dog looking at a fan in the ceiling:)

            And go at it with “Awet NHafash”; just don’t make reciting that phrase or loving it or any of its supplements (Wetru, Hijiwin) a condition of loving our revolution.

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, For what is worth enjoy it while it last, Their success is not a mystery, they have just a little above average line up ;The more skill you have, regardless of size and physical attributes, you can win…that explaine it and is easy to duplicate the strategy . The link article, the same old, people all the sudden be philosophical when the spotlight shine on them.” the players simply superior” no.. you got it wrong, we are still waiting the rebirth( stat doesn’t matter)…the one close to it is the KinG. Curry who? will be in the days of you and yr walking sticks.

          • saay7

            Hi Ted:

            Whaaaaaaa? You don’t like stats in your sports? What are you: European?

            Here’s Trevor Noah contrasting stats-obsessed sports commentary in the US with no-stats commentary of European soccer:). Funny, not the least of which because your Kings stats are mentioned:)

            http://youtu.be/2r-464KzH_k

            Saa

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, it funny, true and annoying fact about stat, i am surprised you didn’t edit out what you wrote about stat.;-) More importantly is about how they make you feel when you watch it. GSW, not even close, i remember being more exited for collage basketball team.

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            Are you kidding me? You know my most favorite Eritrean awatista? Vet Mahmud Saleh. I have said it before in this very forum that I trust Vet Mahmud with his loaded AK47 than the smooth talker kebesa . I trust him with my life. I like his no nonsense approach.
            Saleh Gadi is the most honorable person in the world. Do I agree with him ? Not always. I don’t even agree with you all the time. Saay? who is he ? I forgot.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Abi,
            I am at a restaurant, picked my soda high to thank you–yes, even azmari bet have Wifi in Addis 🙂 but don’t overdo it, there is a risk I might believe your praise. And I can hardly carry my head, I don’t want it heavier.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Gash Saleh,

            You are in Addis? Tsk, I told them not to let you in. How did you slip in? 🙂

          • Abi

            Ato Saleh
            Soda? Moche barefkut!
            Endesera aygedil ale yagere sew.
            Your attitude towards justice seeking has no boundaries, not limited for eritreans only. You stood for the helpless ethiopians in trouble. You went the extra mile to talk about them with PMMZ. The other eritrean who mentioned them in her comments is Hayat. No one else. You were not looking for fame. You did it because it is the right thing to do. It is a just thing to do.
            I do not have enough adjectives to express my appreciation.
            God bless you.

        • SenaiErtrawi

          Selam Eyob,
          While you are at that, how about these beliefs:

          “Amharay adghi”
          “Hasad agame”
          “Donqoro Oromo”
          “Ambeta belita Tigre”
          “Qmalam shaebia”

          When I was growing up, I though all Amhara were dark skinned, big lips always in green uniforms and black boots and some of them change to Hyna at night . . .

          I assure you that you will always find Eritreans and Ethiopians who still use some of the phrases I listed.

          But why don’t you address the issues with your ESAT people and talk about Ethiopian internal problems first – at the Ethiopian forums? We will do the same and then may be we can talk as neighbors and try to find ways we can live peacefully minding out own businesses.

          Remember, we are divorced now and the best we can have between us is respect and peace with in and across our borders.

          • Nitricc

            Hi SenaiEritreawi hahahahaha; that is funny.
            “When I was growing up, I though all Amhara were dark skinned, big lips always in green uniforms and black boots and some of them change to Hyna at night . . .”
            That is classic lol.
            Senai you said,
            “Remember, we are divorced now and the best we can have between us is respect and peace with in and across our borders.”
            They will never leave us alone, never! We are in their mind 24/7. They feel they are dumped, like you dump your girl friend and will never forget you and constantly after you, it is them. I don’t think they are going to forgive us. I mean at times I don’t balme them. When Five million people put the weeping on 80 million people and leave them land-locked; embarrassing but I can understand that.
            Let me tell you how their mind works. Few weeks back ESAT and Ethiopian vision had a conference about Ethio-Eritrea. I was mumbling about it about something and Abi came swinging by saying “ the reason there was no Eritrean is because no one respects Eritreans”
            Mind you, the Ethiopians are the once prepared the conference; so, if no Eritrean showed up while the conference is about Eritrea; who is being disrespected, Ethiopians are Eritreans? The answer is obvious to anyone with right mind. Obviously, the Eritreans did not find it worthy enough of their time and they elected not to show up while the Ethiopians went out of their way to hold conference about Eritrea. Yet, Abi the Ethiopian had the nerve to tell me otherwise. So, my point is they are twisted beyond repair when it comes to Eritrea and Eritreans. Lucky for us, we moved on.

          • Abi

            Hi Nitricc
            You got it wrong. The eritreans were not invited because the organizers did not think it is necessary to invite them. They don’t count at all. When the ethiopians and the Americans were at the conference hall discussing eritrean issues, the eritreans were in the parking garage waiting for the decision.

        • Semere Andom

          Eyoba;
          You are smart because you support both the cruelty of both regimes and the struggle of TPLF against it. But you support the former on Eritreans but abhor it on your people. Everything you said under this article was dead wrong, also Abi but I will give the devil his due, Abi actually semi concurred with me that Bitweded came out of brutal war when he said those words;-)
          you are slowly becoming dawit
          thanks
          the other Semere;-)

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sem,

            I actually agree with Abi. I do understand Ato Bitewded’s coming out of a trench and a heavy hateful propaganda that has been installed on him and its effect. What I have a problem is his status as a hero, when his view of Ethiopia and Ethiopians seems to be…well. Hateful.

          • Semere Andom

            Eyob;
            But you do not know what prison did to him, if the subject of his talk was Ethiopia, you do not know if he would have addressed them as enemies in 1997. He just said that what his “crime” was. Forget of “installing” on him, he was the “installer”, he came out of the Massawa massacre, that you and Abi ought to admit and mention the crime by Ethiopia, a country is represented by its government so it was correct to say Ethiopia did this or did that, and his comment of was right albeit being construed as lumping all Ethiopians. In that speech his told his people what his “crime” was and he spend the rest of the speech talking about the future and PFDJ. And you both know that, it is just oozing should I say that hate that you hate in the hate that you accuse Bitweded of inciting. Do not trip on hate, I mean the word hate in this sentence 😉

          • Abi

            Sem
            In relation to the list of memorable speeches , add the historical speech by His Excellency Atse Haileselassie I , the King of The Great Nation of Ethiopia at the League of Nations.
            How dare you forgot THAT speech?

          • V.F.

            Eyob, this is hypocrisy at its best. None of your heroes were lovers of Eritreans as far as Eritreans are concerned. How about that? Can you prove it otherwise? Why should an Eritrea hero be defined by your distorted binoculars, which is that ‘Eritreans are Ethiopians but Ethiopians are not Eritreans’? You are us but we are not you. Did Allula love Eritreans? How about the TPLF leadership? They are your heroes because you come here and defend them day and day out. How about Colonel Mengistu Hailemariam? I bet you loved the guy. Stop being so arrogant, to use the words of your-brother-in-propaganda, Abi.

          • Hope

            Dear and Hey Hey Mr Akaki Zeraf ,Ayte Eyob!
            Read VF carefully and rest your case!
            ERITREANS do not hate Ethiopians despite of their hateful actions by their Regimes!
            We do not need to repeat the endless list of atrocities committed by the Ethiopian Regimes,which the innocent Gen Bitweded is talking about!
            You are talking to the stones I guess!
            Plus,wether the captured property in Aseb belongs to the Killers or to the Innocent,that property belonged to the Liberators ,and as such, there is no need to question the General’s comment!
            If the Derghi and its Remnants were not and are not the killers,who are they,then?
            Why in the HELL would that captured property should go to any one else but its capturers,be them the killers or the innocent?
            Haters ?
            Who hates who and who killed who?
            If we hated the killers,then why did we escorted those killers,more than 300,000,in Luxury Red Cross buses ?
            We do not need your or blessing or appreciation for that but history and the honest ones will!

          • Abi

            Hope Gerageru
            Endemin aderu?
            So you put those 300,000 killers on a Red Cross bus ?
            You could not wait until the referendum? You kicked them out knowing full well that time is on your side.
            You are cowards, vengeful . As the same time eritreans were doing guayla day and night all over ethiopia.
            The same people who chased the ” killers” are now being treated nicely by the same ” killers. As usual, we opened our hearts, we opened our homes , our universities. We are keeping them safe, educating them to the highest level. They can take their skill anywhere in the world. God! I’m proud of my people. The ever welcoming and hospitable people even for their chasers. You see , we don’t kick you when you are down. No Sir! We take care of you. That is not what you did in 1991. You kicked those ethiopians when they were down. Shame.
            On this thanksgiving day, I thank my people for everything they do for people that are temporarily down.
            Happy Thanksgiving.

    • Semere Andom

      Nitricc:
      You are not qualified to render any judgment about Eritrea and Ethiopia because you never lived there and also you never studied them as can be gleaned from your blabber of hate and ignorance.
      The ultimate deciders are the people, you, PFDJ and dawit and IA and Moneky do not matter
      Eritreans old you that Eritrea is dangerous to them, they told u the sea is safer, Ethiopia is safer and the attitudes are changing. Instead of obssesing with salvaging a sinking PFDJ you need to talk about the crimes of PFDJ. Self proclaimed truth teller would not ignore that Bitweded was arrested in 1991 few months of so called independence , you cannot find that in Ethiopia now, a freedom fighter arrested in 1991 and still in Ethiopia that is why Ethiopia ibetter than PFGJ’s Eritrea, your Eritrea. Truth

      • Nitricc

        Hi Semere; if you can qualify to say a word about people like Bitweded, then I have every right to say about anything. Can you imagine; if the Semere’s can talk the once who flee like a little you know what? During the call of duty; talk about people like Bitweded, Jeganu; then, I have the right to talk about everything under the sun. I know you got big one but I don’t hate anyone. I just expressed what I am thinking; what is your problem? I am not the one I call for the Ethiopians to invade Eritrea, so Eritrea won’t lose her citizens life. Is there any shameful, corrupted and hate filled thinking, NO! The problem is people like you with your kind of mentality. Let me tell you this; Eritrea and Ethiopia are two different countries; the END of the story!

      • Ted

        Hi Semere, i don’t know what you tell your kids when you burn Eritrean flag in your basement but if you believe people never been to Eritrea shouldn’t have opnions or contribution to the welbleing of Eritrea, it is my hope the mini Semere Andoms will do everything, i mean everything you say, think and do, to contrary you want them to believe.Not only you are terrible Eritrean, now you are crowned terrible Canadian:-)

  • Amanuel

    Hi Abi
    First I have never lived in Ethiopia and you have got it wrong again.
    The 100k Ethiopians deported from Eritrea in 1991 was (still is) a pure lie. A part from few who were families of the Derg army left in hurry, most of the civil servants, teachers and doctors sold their houses and left on their own time. There were minor incidents committed by individuals and that is not surprising considering the damage inflicted by the Derg army on Eritreans. As you may recall there was an investigating committee of Ethiopians came to Eritrea at that time and it’s conclusion was no deportation was carried out by the Provisional Eritrean Government, just found isolated incidents committed by individuals.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hello ayneta
    Thank you for the explanation. I understand your motive, and I have no ill-feeling towards you. Believe me, most ex-EPLF (veterans and Hafash) understand that the slogan has been brutalized in the same manners our ideals have been frustrated. I understand how PFDJ exploits the minds of Eritreans by invoking ghedli era political paraphernalia. As a tag line, a slogan summarizes a platform’s mission. Awet nHafash was meant to be Awet Nhafash not awet of a small circle that continues to blunder the fate of our nation. I actually have long stopped finishing PFDJ speeches. I forgot that PFDJ is using it. I had a complaint on this forum, and that was that the opposition, in its direction to separate itself from PFDJ, has moved away from its foundation; it has effectively surrendered the ghedli era HISTORY and what could be gained from it for a rallying effect, to the PFDJ. PFDJ continues using it effectively. I think this move emanates from a wrong perception that Eritreans blame their current predicament to the ghedli era (YGs and their affiliates). I believe the majority of Eritreans have held up and continue finding smart ways of challenging PFDJ without totally disavowing their revolutionary history. They seem to understand that revolutionary history and its rallying glory belong to all Eritreans and not to the ruling clique.
    “Awet Nhafash” served in a different era. As an historical slogan it will remain forever. And here is the reason:
    – If you happen to be a future historian, AND YOU want to study the EPLF side, you will go through tones of classified and declassified documents, love letters, radio messages, songs, poems, drawings…pictures…films….and you know what, all will end with “Awet NHafash.” ELF did have its own rallying slogan (Revolution until victory!) and the case will be the same. Like it or not, you will go through IA speeches and messages…all those document belong to Eritreans.
    – You will know how deep rooted and rallying that slogan was. That is exactly why slogans are created. They are easily remembered tag lines which carry the message of the organization or platform. Therefore, in this sense, awet nhafash will live as long as Eritrea lives. It embodies the tens of thousands brave men and women who fell voicing it loudly. Our weakness in not keeping their expectation that the victory should be to the masses who had toiled for it is not a blame we put on them by burying it deep. No. Actually, we reclaim the essence of it, and we continue on slogans that reflect our time.
    Let’s look at the opposition slogans. Does any slogan comes to your mind right away? I’m sure you will have to google, and find the slogans of each of the parties and organizations percolating the opposition. I have seen quite some.
    -Down with dictator
    -Death to IA
    – hgdf demu eyu (PFDJ is a cat)
    -we are all Habesha
    -long live the Habesha nation…
    -let the law reign
    In any case, the opposition needs a unifying slogan, some thing that creates the effects of Awet nHafash. But in order to have a unifying slogan, you have to have a unified message. Sadly, the opposition is treading on different messages and different inclinations hence creating a huge “silent majority” seemingly indifferent and unmoved, but making slow progress towards gathering its weight in a common direction.
    “ዓወት ንሓፋሽ” ቦትኣን ግዚኣን ሒዛ ክትነብር እያ። ህግድፍ ይኹን ካልእ ውድብ ናቱ ጭርሖ ክፈጥር ኣለዎ። “ዓወት ንሓፋሽ” ተቐቢራ ዘይኮነትስ፡ ኣብ ቤተ-መዘክርን መጻሕፍቲ ታሪኽን ክትነብር እያ። እተን ካልኦት ውድባት ኤርትራ ዝተጠቕሙለን ጭርሖታት እውን ከምኡ።
    So, dear ayneta, I agree that the slogan has been made meaningless by the ruling clique, but that should not push us on surrendering it to PFDJ. Let’s recognize its historical significance, and move on creating a unifying slogan of similar effects but towards new horizon: towards civic governance and modernity; towards good neighborliness and cooperation; towards making the new generation benefit from the spoils of modernity…towards making the respect of human rights as the core value of this new movement….
    This is yours
    Mahmuday: sometimes an ideal dude, sometimes tegadalay beAl Twyo nexela….

  • Saleh Johar

    Dear Hope,

    The name of the so-called “silent majority” has been changed to “The Moral Majority”. 🙂

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Dear Ayneta,

    A slogan is nothing but a bunch of words; it becomes meaningless without deeds. And it all depends on who says “Awet N’hafah”; if it is the notorious PFDJ clique, we know that it is a hollow slogan. But the justice-and freedom seekers can use it in pursuit of its tue meaning.

  • dawit

    Dear All
    I like watching this mud fight show! Thanx Cousin SEM
    dawit

    • Nitricc

      Hi dawit hahaha I am starting to understand the habesha culture. Amazing is the word. I feel bad for Abi; he have no idea what he got in to himself. He is used by the president of the University. Nevertheless it is fun time. Enjoy the mad sliding and punching. This is the perfect example the two countries should stay appart.

  • saay7

    Hey Ayneta:

    Don’t forget the “bunny-boiler” scene. In american idiom, a girl who won’t take no for an answer and is obsessed with her boyfriend is called a “bunny boiler.” I think it fits Abi and Eyob when it comes to Eritrea. Here’s the bunny-boiler scene:)

    https://youtu.be/ecWhXP2jM28

    saay

  • Fetima Dechasa

    Akkam waaritan Abiti,

    In addition to what you’ve said above, what I find rather perplexing is how the same people who call us killers and murderers choose to travel in and out of Ethiopia every single day. There are many Eritreans who live and work in Ethiopia currently, including the deported ones who found their way back in. Is this some sort of Stockholm Syndrome? Who goes back to such horrific place?

  • Eyob Medhane

    Abi,

    Though you have said what mostly needed to be said, I wish I could say more, but I am under a gag order from Gash Saleh. I just can’t believe Amanuel’s total disregard, disgust and ‘niqet’ of Ethiopians as people and Ethiopia as a country, which he usually covers with polite sounding words is incredible.

    • Saleh Johar

      Lij Eyob,
      I never gagged you, that’s is not true. There is an Arabic saying (sorry, it’s Arabic): iza lem testeHi, faafAal ma tesha’a– if you have no shame, then do whatever you want. In this case, write whatever you feel is beneficial. I just advice you that a video game battle is more fun that fighting here. Again, you claim that you are under a gag by my order is false.

  • Saleh Johar

    Abi,
    I wish everything was as simple as you make it seem. 100,000 thousand people, from either side, are not one person–they have their different histories, circumstances and even crimes. You cannot use a wide brush to make them appear as one man. I am sure there were criminals among them, both sides, as well as innocent people, both sides. I am also sure there were underage who had nothing to do with the crisis–and victims and villains and security risks from both sides. We can’t picture a totally innocent person in our mind and superimpose that imagined person on all.

    Every individual has an personal history and circumstances, and it is unfair and irrational to lambaste tens of thousands as if they were one person. Just a thought

  • PTS

    [Thank you for the correction PTS //moderator]

    Superb Semere, superb!
    The village is called Adi Mengonti. Can’t have error, else where ok, but not on the title.

  • T..T.

    Hi Ayneta,

    Most of Eritreans are nowadays of the opinion that with every Eritrean betrayed by the persons who coined those words “Awet nihafash,” there is nothing to be gained by echoing or shouting those words ever again. At one time, those words were used to advertise loyalty. What loyalty and to whom? Loyalty to an imposter, really!

    The trick cannot be played again to destroy more. Those words have been taken down for good. Those words can only now be used to teach how to be cruel by presenting a card of false promise, a promise that has gone inflicting misery, degradation and death to all Eritrean families. The promise had been broken, so also many hearts were broken resulting in broken families with no roof over their heads nor crumbs that fell off Isayas’s table for the Eritrean children to feed on. That’s why we see all these children crossing the border.

    Those words if coached now, they will not only cultivate hate but also bring shame, blame, disrespect and betrayal like they did before. Even Isayas’s top comrades who used to coach shouting those words and believe in them were humiliated and fooled by their own comrades. Yes, because of betrayals of the very close friends, those words are believed to be sources of severe pain beyond physical and emotional pains to every Eritrean. Yes, again, because those words violated the very trust they represent they have no place under trust of the promise.

    • Saleh Johar

      T.T., Ayneta and Mahmuday,

      Let me tell you a joke of the seventies that will get you to take things lightly.

      An EPLF force took a truck from an owner, for the war efforts. They never gave him back because he was living under the Derg held territories. During the liberation of towns, the man saw his truck being driven by a combatant. He was happy and approached him, “my son, this is my truck that you took some years ago, I will take it.”

      The combatant chickled and said to him, “eziaa nay Hafash eyya”

      The man was dumbfounded, “no look at the Libreto, it is under my name, who is this guy named hafash anyway? I am sure his name is not in the Libreto!”

      That immediately became the joke of town while the deprived of his property was wondering who that hafash was until they explained to him the meaning of hafash. Indeed, Isaias sloganeering “Awet NHafash” after every speech cheapened its pristine meaning. But we cannot deny its mobilizing and inspiring effect simply because Isaias used it wrongly. As for me, I never said it and never will. Let’s leave the issue where it is.

      • Ayneta

        Dear Saleh:
        Thank you for the joke. It is hilarious. But honestly, I feel cheated when PFDJ use the word arrogantly . It is insulting to our intelligence. It is even more appalling to see some people parroting it as if it will make things any better. It is just sickening to witness how the ruling party is playing with our thought process with these seemingly harmless words.

      • Hope

        Dear SGJ:
        That is a hillarious joke,that made me to break into uncontrollable laughter that concerned the Restaurant Staff and Customers while I was eating!
        But the ” Awet Ni Hafash” Slogan is here to stay ,not just until we accomplish Phase II of our Sriggle but until the last ERITREAN Life on Earth takes his/her last breath ,in its positive way and term!
        It has nothing to do with the System and its the killers and kidnappers but with heroes and heroines and their HEROISM
        Let us not abuse the Term!
        The analogy that the Truck belongs to the Hafash,though a joke,makes a sense during those days as the Truck might have done a betters and productive work by being belonging to the Hafash rather than the individual owner!
        The timing and the rationale matters not the confiscation!

        • AOsman

          Dear Hope,

          You say…the Truck might have done a betters and productive work….

          I say God help us if ownership is by efficiency and productivity, it is using similar line of thinking that PFDJ claims that Eritrea is in better hands.

          Talking about line of thinking, where is Tes these days?

          Regards
          AOsman

      • V.F.

        Dear SGJ, thank you for that humorous take. Well, here we go. We agree on one thing, partially. I never said that phrase and I never will either, specially with that terrible addition to it now, wetru. Good grief. I said partially because I hate that term (I hope I don’t sound like Abi). It just irritates me. Now I feel like going all out on the G word. I don’t necessarily disagree with the cause, reasons, necessities of it but the alien things it brought to our pure cultures disturbs me. Awet Nhafash, what in the world does that mean. Selamn fithin nkulu wedi seb. How does that sound?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Desr V.F,

          Awet nihafash is a good slogan in its true sense. Actually its history goes back to the Russian revolution. In our Eritrea It is being used to hide behind it. It has never been used for its true sense. If you really notice about it, it is more used by the oppressive regimes and their supporters in the world like ours. The slogan is noble in its essence but it is always exploited by those who do not believe in it. So do not argue against the concept of the slogan rather expose to those who tried to hide behind that slogan and who really do not represent to that ideal the slogan stands for. (My friend Saay,do not ideologize my comment at this point we will have plenty of time to debate on it in the future).

          Regards,
          Amanuel

          • saay7

            Hey Emma:

            teredadi’na alena:)

            I used to chair one of those “national defense committees” in the late 1990s and I asked to resign. And it is because (MaHmuday: please close your eyes) I didn’t want to do “zkre sema’e’tat” and “Awet n’hafash.” However noble their original intent, these bookends are now, unfortunately, now used by the PFDJ for the purpose of enforcing mass hypnotism. In China, slogans were used to change Chinese from Confuicianism to Mao-ism. It’s all brainwash and I won’t play because, as my local reggae band, Inka Inka, once sang: “Your Mind Is Not Dirty So Don’t Let Them Wash Your Brain.”

            https://youtu.be/Nq9qLro2hjQ

            I see political slogans now (hey, my job includes marketing and it is fascinating study) in Eritrea. There was one political org (I think it is the one Haile TG belongs to) which came up with “Awet nHafash – bgbri!” There is the ELF slogan Awet nhzbi Ertra (Al Nasru lil jamahir). There is the YG slogan of Ethiopia Tkdem; Ghedli ywdem. (kidding!)

            Hey Mahmuday, when you do that Awet nHafash thing, do you still do the Black Power left-hand-in-a-fist-pump?:))

            Here’s my slogan:

            “Megnsti Kab hzbi ember hzbi kab mengsti ayferhn!” Also, the reason I don’t attend demonstrations is because I can’t keep a straight face when people chant all those slogans.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Sasy,

            Eye to eye on this issue.

            Regards

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear SAAY7
            I have a feeling that you will leave a masterpiece of collected or original works based on and reflecting our epoch struggle. Once you go through all your references, I’m sure you will find one enigmatic slogan. You will hesitate but finally will settle on it as the title of your book. Because everything you see or think of will be bound to amplifying the essence of that historic slogan. No way around it. Now, we know some folks want to eradicate everything EPLF. It’s just impossible unless we are to expect a ” Neo-Taliban” type of an invasion from the south aiming at burying anything that bears what made Eritrea independent. You don’t belong to those groups and individuals. I understand you are right at criticizing PFDJ for using it for political convenience. But

          • saay7

            Hala Mahmuday:

            One of my favorite segments of Eri-TV news (and by favorite, I mean, I like to guess, much like when playing in jeopardy) is all the slogans that all the PFDJ-satellite orgs come up with for their meetings. The newscaster will say “The National Association of A Group That Barely Meets…. ኣብ ትሕቲ ዝብል ቴማ…concluded its meeting.” I saw one recently for people who work on leathers and hides and, yes, they had a ቴማ.

            Ok, Mahmuday, if you insist that I go on my nostalgia trip:

            My “Hafeshawi Politikawi tmhrti” book has no slogans
            My “Mahta” (from 1980) has “bzey sewrawi klse Hasab: sewrawi mnqsqas yelbon.” (This is Lenin’s “there can be no revolutionary movement without revolutionary ideology” from his book “What’s to be done” but damn it sounded original in Tigrinya like someone thought of it in Nakfa:)
            My “Ftsametat” has no time for slogans. It has the EPLF riding tank 104 (Thank you Ethiopia, for your generosity. Boom, yeah, I went there.)
            My “Dimtsi SerahTegnatat Ertrawian” has no slogan but it has the obligatory hammer surrounded by bullets and olive branches, all topped by the red star. I swear I saw the exact same logo used by one of our oppo. I am thinking the Red Sea Afar.
            My orange copy of “Sagem” has “fTHawi selam bQesali tsn’At.” I am too tired to research where that was copied from, i am sure it is a lame copy:)

            Should I go on?:)

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi the Greatest. All has been said and done to discredit Ghedli . The attempt seem like moving a mountain. Americans, God bless America;-), pay tribute for those who fought for their independence and unity in all ways they can. It beats me, why Eritreans are asked to abandon their cherished Phrase ” Awet nehafash , Zikri nisawatena” where our beloved render in they daily life of the struggle to the last breath of their life.The revisionist need to look a little deeper for the prologue of UN’s COI report what “the awet nihafash” accomplished in 30 yrs bitter struggle. ( not that we need UN tell us our story but to show the revisionist have no problem with rosy depiction of Ghedli ). The war on The flag, awet nihafah, zikri nismaetat, ….i don’t know what comes next will all fail. If they want Eritreans to trust them, they need to come in terms with our history and achievement, short of this, they fall in deaf ears.
            AN
            ZN .

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ted,
            As I see you and read you, that you have a sharp mind, that you could answer without a problem if someone asked you what is the chaff to the wheat? for now I will leave the puzzle to deal with it at anytime.

            But, But, Ted, Ted (if you could listen to me). We don’t glorify our martyrs by erecting a monument of shedda in lieu of our heroes. We don’t glorify our martyrs by erecting a monument of Pushkin in lieu of our heroes. We can’t glorify our martyrs by erecting a monument of a Turtle in lieu of our heroes. We can’t echo a slogan “awet Nehafash” without giving power to the hafash. We can’t echo a slogan awet nehafash without giving a freedom and liberty to our hafash. We can’t echo a slogan awet nehafash without allowing the hafash to govern themselves by the law of the land.

            In short, we are saying the slogan was empty and rhetoric back then and now. The public understood the slogan now, that they were not and is not in the service of hafash. It was always a pretention but to the service of a ruling party. We are not against the concept and the cause of our struggle, but what we are saying is they were never to the service of our hafash nor to our martyrs. They are assumed as such but intended to rally the public to the interest of any leading or governing body. How could you miss Ted this?

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Ted

            Hi AH, i don’t read too much in to The Pushkin monument that Eritrea got one out of many such kind stored in Russian warehouse. it is free, why not. It has nothing more than ornamental value. If you say the slogan has no meaning back then, it shows me you have an axe to grind with EPLF. I don’t have a dog in this fight as long as you go mano a mano with the Greatest. When you argue it lost its meaning ever since PFDJ monopolized it, i don’t agree with you. What it means stays the same for generations to come. Some day the right people use it with good intenstion and vision for Eritrea. It is here to stay, history one thing politics another thing. You can’t take away that from Eritreans. You show the tendency to be more ELF than Eritrean, that is where the confusion lies.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Ted,

            so the shedda and the turtle has more history than the heroic Eritrean tegadelti who gave their precious life for the Eritrean . That is an irony Ted.
            We have a government who respect objects like shedda and animals like turtle than our heroes. By the way though EPLF use more than ELF

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hi Ted
            In a word: ygermena’lo. What’s so far clear is that there are two well organized, flanks of the Eritrean politics. The PFDJ ON ONE SIDE and the Neo-andnetawyan and their sympathizers on the other side. Everything in between is fluid. It’s in need of direction and leadership. My prediction is the prize is dependent on convincing this vast middle ground. Whether it is domestic force or a combination of domestic +diaspora force, the winning strategy will be preserving our history and moving forward. This attitude would recofnize the historicity of “Awet nHafash” and retire it for good because any new platform demands new tagline of slogans. Slogans change due to the evolving political platforms. Awet nHafash belongs to a revolutionary era and it belongs to those who believed in it. Now coming to the two well organized flanks of the Eritrean polititical spectrum, PFDJ has a cohesive message and a disciplined deliverance. The Neo-andenetawyan also have a well financed base. Their base consists of some leaders of the opposition who lent their life and service to causes other than the realization and subsequent betterment of Eritrea (check out the bios of Kernelious, for instance. There are few in his class) . Once the relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia was severed, these so called “opposition leaders” were well positioned to use that back ground and connection to be chosen by their handlers as the leaders of the organizations which mushroomed in Tigray. Unfortunately some veteran leaders opposition leaders also flocked to the other side while Eritrean mothers were in trauma. You now know how their “Awet to my pockets and my locality” has cost the opposition. People who could never move a pebble are now trying to move a mountain!! The mountain you alluded to was not PFDJ but the firm position of Eritreans on not allowing the professional political swindlers to erase the memory of our heroes. When you read code messages such as eradication and burial of everything EPLF (including ghedli Ertra), when you see the desecrations of different revolutionary symbols, mocking the mindset of that generation, belittling the magnitude of our sacrifices and the reaches of its effects…you know you are looking at the lots who want to burn and bury the traces of our epoch stryggle. I said it is impossible. It is akin to the unmaking of Eritrea. Amanuel Hidrat and SGJ (both veteran ELF cadres) have come closer to what I have in mind. They are totally different than the determined grave diggers of our ghedli. They are saying let’s leave it alone, it served its purpose, which is fair enough. Determining the Intention of a writer is important in determining whether malice is intended or not. I can not own Awet nHafash more than AH and SGJ (that’s when the old partisan politics is scrapped away off the surface), deep at heart we are all Eritreans and we care for the tradition and the legacy that brought us to this point. We learn from the negative and try not to repeat it and reinforce the positive aspect. However, in some cases, I feel it’s responsible to stand up and give direction. The detractors of the essence of ” Awet NHafash” who equate it toPFDJ are doing it purposely. The intention is clear. There are two area we need to separate: the historicity of the slogan and its significance in the period it was used, and the misuse and abuse of this slogan by PFDJ. If it did not serve the masses, whose crime is it? The young fighters knew it in 1993 that it did not meet the expectation, they set out to make the leadership answerable as to why Awet nHafash was forgotten and they paid heavily for that; Maay Habar wounded veterans knew it and in their attempt to reclaim it they were mowed down; General Bitew and G-15 reacted because they saw the essence of it was getting lost and they paid for that dearly; the students of University reacted to reclaim it and they paid for it; elders did try….and Wedi Ali…sacrificed for reclaiming it….and the attempts continue. Today the fluid middle ground is stabilizing. My prediction is this stabilizing middle ground will serve a catalyst role for the domestic change we aspire to see. Awet NHafash will forever be remembered as the emblematic slogan that rallied millions. The farmers, the shepherd, the seHab ghemel and the kobkabi adghi, the doctor and the engineer, the combatant and the civilians…they all belong to this emblematic slogan. It is futile trying to “bury it deep where the dogs could not reach it.” It is also absurd to think Eritreans will forgo their heritage because they think PFDJ has confiscated it forever. What we see is a struggle being waged bitterly between those who feel their ideals that the victory should be to the people has been hijacked by PFDJ, and therefore, fight back to reclaim its true essence, and those who think they have found the right time of shaking down Eritreans’ confidence, and therefore, want to demoralize and then win peacefully a victory they had lost in the battle ground, they want to use this oportune time for their Unionist aspirations. For them, the first order of the moment is to erase symbols that connect Eritreans with their victorious struggle. Otherwise, when we say power to the people, that means awet nhafash; when we say down down IA, that means calling for people power (awet nHafash), when we say constituitonalism…institutionalism…human right…it means awet nHafash….But again: ygermena’lo.
            Awet Nhafash
            Alnasru Leljemahir
            Awtie egl reHib gebil
            Del lesefiw hzb
            vixtory to the mases.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Selam Mahmuday,

            Your perfect hateta deserves to be accompanied with this patriotic song which was sang to galvanise Eritreans to stand up against foreign oppression; its message is equally relevant to today’s generation to say no to internal oppression.

            PS. strong nostalgic factor.-) Also the immortal “Awet N’Hafash” is embedded in the clip.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0fn85UDJY

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Abraham
            Hji negher amxieka. This might softens Awet nHafash for SAAY to swallow it. SAAY tsaeda, yes an emergency meeting of the TBS is in order. Abraham is working on its logistics. Ted will be the protocol officer. That means our effort to present Semere will be postponed.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Mahmuday,

            ኣየ! ኣንታ ሕጂ ድማ ትም ኢልካ ኣብ ቋይቂ ከተእትወና ኢኻ እምበር እዚ ሽጣራ ‘ዚ ሲ ኣይበልዓናን እዩ :ክንቀላለዖ ዝኸብደና ሰባት ኣይኮናን እሞ ክሓልፋ ዶ ወላ “ልቢ ከነዕቢ ” .. ናትካ ነገር በዚ ልቢ ነዕቢ ትብለና ተመሊስካ ማማይ ኮይንካ ትመጸና::

          • Saleh Johar

            Dear all,
            Just checked the forum after last night. I lost track but keep it up.

            Awet nHafash (saay, you can’t see my left hand but it’s up)

        • Fnote Selam

          Hi VF,

          It also irks me ( i feels like something is scratching my brain) when I hear it. Not because it is bad per se (it is actually noble) but because of the phoniness associated with it that we are forced to live with for the most part of our lives. I would probably be able to overcome my irritation if most Eris choose to go with it going forward, but I would rather we come up with something else…there is plenty of untainted choices out there….

          FS>

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear T.T,

      I always enjoy your comments, please continue to do so. Your contribution to the maturity of this forum is well recognized if not by all by many.

      Regards,
      Amanuel Hidrat

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Sem,
    ZeyQenE Ayweled says our adage. Positive envy a is motivator for ones desire to be. Positive envy devoid of hate and enmity is natural and you displayed it elegantly in your piece. Good commentary and translation. Thank you.

    regards
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam ayneta
    So, what do you suggest the victory should belong to if you hate to see it belonging to the mass/people? “Awet nHafash” simply means victory to the masses. No person who cares for the people and who wants the people to reclaim what’s rightly their’s should feel offended by that slogan. Yes, nitrickay is right. The idea that the mass should come out victorious, and the motto “Awet nHafash” is not partisan in nature. It belongs to all Eritreans. I know why some are offended by it (not particularly you, but I hear it from a known corner). What I don’t understand is how is it that they want to win the “Hafash” when they hate to see a slogan that aspires that the victory should belong to the masses. Get your own slogan, buddy. Awet nHafash will remain enshrined in the history books. Millions have rallied around it, and millions are fighting back to reclaim it. It doesn’t belong to any political organization.It belongs to a unique period of our history. I agree with you finding appropriate motto. However, that’s not from an aversion to the motto, but from the fact that different stages of social movement need slogans that reflect that specific period.

  • Aklilu Hailu

    ሰላም ጎረቤቶች

    ኮንቴነር ሙሉ ውስኪውን የሽጠው ቢትወደድ መሆኑ ባይረጋገጥም፣ የጠጣው ግን ኢሳያስ መሆኑ ጉበቱ መስክሯል።

    የናንተው
    አክሊሉ ከጎረቤት

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Aklilu

      ምርጥ የወሩ ቀልድ! ለነገሩ የሰውየው ጉበት በድግግሞሽ ሂደት የመትኖር ምሆንዋ ተዘግቧል :: ተመልሶ የመፍጠር (regenerate ) ችሎታዋን መመርመርና ለጥናት ማቅረብ ኣሰፈላጊ በመሆኑ: – በጨረታ ተወዳዳሪዎችን መጋበዝ ሳያስፈልግ እንደማይቀርም እየተነገረ ነው::

  • Ahmed Raji

    Hi All, … I hate to see the speech being portrayed by some as an anti-Ethiopian speech and the discussion veering away from its essence, namely standing up to injustice. While the issue of who gets the cargo seized at Assab port upon its liberation was a legitimate one, I do not share Gen Bitweded’s articulation of the matter as one of surrendering that property to ‘our enemy’. After all, this was supposed to be a new era of friendship after successfully working together to defeat the Derg. But, for someone who had just come out from a long bloody war with Ethiopia that language may be understandable, if not condonable. The matter in hand (the essence of the 1997 speech), however, is not about all that. It is about the gross injustice inflicted by the Eritrean government on Bitweded (and others) and his courage and wisdom in the face of tyranny.
    But, as usual, some of us in this forum seem not to miss every opportunity to revisit the tired arguments about the Eritrea-Ethiopia love-hate relationship

    • Fnote Selam

      Hi Ahmed,

      Perfect comment.

    • Hope

      Welcome back Ustaz Ahmed ! Dehayka elibde Minna!
      Btw,these kind of MORRALLY CORRUPT do not deserve a feedback from you as they what they are saying and doing!
      These are spy agents recruited and assigned to create chaos and confuse ERITREANS and their nobLe cause but have failed and fail and are deemed to fail
      But please come up often and teach us some thing when your schedule allows!
      I wish the Awate Univ has the Funds to legitimately hire top Professors !
      Awate Unversity!
      Yes the Dream will come true to have the Real and Physical Awate Univ at its right place and by its right owners in Barka!Or at Mount Adal!
      Insh”Allah!

  • Nitricc

    Hi Ayneta. I know you are heart broken hahahah but let me break your heart once more; awate N’hafash is here to stay for ever.

    Thank you!
    Awet-N’hafash!
    Eternal glory to our martyrs!
    Nitricc.

    • Ayneta

      Nittric:

      You dont break a broken heart twice brother….Entay kitrekib..it is so unkind of you…..Unfortunately, you are also breaking the already broken heart of hafash all over again by screaming the fake slogan until you get winded.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Ayneta,

        “Fake slogan ” yes ended. you know that IA is honest man to say so ..Hahaha! “ውሽጡ ሕሩር” በለት ለታይ. some are programmed already to say awet nhafash even they say “ብዓወትና ተዛዚሙ “when they come out of the toilet. you should not ask them where the Hafash is, as far as they are in democratic nations enjoying their rights and just writing those nonsense phrases right from their computer.

  • Rule of Law

    Selam all,
    This sounds a conflict of interest between the Ndrangheta and Cosa Nostra over “who should control the pillage” A close relative of mine comes to mind, who lost a brand new car that she had imported via Assab back then therefore I have no reason to believe part or all of the goods were delivered to the “woyane” as Mr. Saleh Johar has put it. By the way, may I make a bypassing remark that Meles Zenawi does not speak in Mekelle-accent because he was not a comedian. The video is still there እንቋዕ ናትና ኾንኩም ፡እንቋዕ ናይማትና አይኾንኩም ፡ እንቋዕ ካብዚወርቂ ህዝቢ’ዚ ተወለድና This speech was simply publicity stunt that doesn’t hold water. Case in point, when the casualty was disclosed in the aftermath of the 17 year long struggle, አዶታት who never heard of their children then approached Meles and pressed him wanting to know the truth. His answer was አይተፅም’ማና “those who returned, returned and those who didn’t, consider them dead” as he put it. He always treated the people with contempt as does Isayas Afeworki which makes the two narcissists identical in character and have no regard to humanity what so ever.

    • Saleh Johar

      Rule of law, remember the LAW,
      Saleh Johar didn’t put it, it was a quote unless you want the quotes in red. Please quote properly.

      • Rule of Law

        Dear Saleh,
        I should’ve wrote “as Mr. Saleh quoted” instead of “put it” I accept the rebuke. The Germans say “Irren ist menschlich” (error is human)

        • Saleh Johar

          Thanks Rule of Law,
          They also say, “korrigiert werden soll menschliche.”

          Danke Shoen

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam Semere
    True to what has been expected of you: beautiful introduction, and excellent translation. Just one glitch: I don’t like calling Haile DruE speech as the “teTelaQina” speech. It was historic in its own right. He assessed the war in a frank way; he underlined the need to understand how the world works; he encouraged citizens to hold their leaders accountable; he also mentioned that democratic and institutional way of doing public business was the right approach to solving the setbacks and gridlock that had led to the poor outcome of the war. He called for speeding up the democratization process ( I may have missed some points, but I think it was historic too). Therefore, even putting it within inverted commas does not serve it justice. We should stay away from how PFDJ mutilated it.
    Bitew, through this speech, has been made immortal. Thanks to those individuals who preserved and shared it. I already commented on it when it was released in audio. So, whatever I may say will be repetition. Thank you for giving history due consideration. This is a continuation of your installment on G-15. We need to cross lines and try to highlight what binds us rather than the fixation on what separates us.

    • Saleh Johar

      Mahmuday,
      It was an error, it’s called “the honest speech”. Sorry for the wrong reference.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan saleh
        Thank you very much. I’m sure cousin Semere put it in a hasty. He is good in this stuff.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Mahmuday:
      I agree. I thought about it too, but the “tetelaqinna” refered to PFDJ and not to the people. He clarified it so that was the reason, but you are right we should not use PFDJ’s line. This reminds the story I heard aboout Sagem, the ELF-RC and others called them “Betin” and they hated it, but a man in one of their congress suggested that they should embrace it because we have “betattinioy” the corruption of leadership.

  • Semere Andom

    Hi all:The cruelty that gave us Weki-Dub, Ona, ShiEb and the Massawa bombing on the eve of independence with forbidden muster gas manifest (becheQ) in Abi. He does not even want to free the man on humanitarian grounds, he does not even want to admit that even for the imagined crime against Ethiopian, (calling them our murderers and killers once) 25 years of prison is enough

    God save Ethiopia and Eritrea and Tigray from Abi and his imaginations

    I do not believe peaceful means will work in PFDJ either, ANC,(Mandela), Ghandi approach will not work in PFDJ land, but it was Bitwede’s choice and the point: the reason that makes this speech history was its courage, to say it inside Eritrea, he did not mince his words, an probably he knew he was going back again. If I was him, I would not want to go back to PFDj prison’s again. I would fight them in Adi Mongotti, in Ethiopia, in Barka, all over. “Tokormika motte asafikha motte”. But his speech will serve us well in the thorny process that will emerge after IA is gone.

    He mentioned Ethiopia once, the speech was not about Ethiopia—blae zeybelwos’ tsbhulay ybil; (L.T translate please). It was about how we should get rid of the tyranny, PFDJ is not used to such things

    PFDJ knows what they are doing, we cannot afford second cheek. But nothing in what Bitweded said takes away from the history nature of the speech.

    Also disappointed at Horizon, a level headed Ethiopian, who became Abisho (pun is intended):)

    Horizon, we met before, it Semere, no the author 😉

    • Abi

      Hi semere
      You are defending a port thief. Yes , he should be in jail for stealing or for conspiring to stealing of public property. 50 years in solitary confinement. Abusing his authority will get him another 10 years of hard labor in road construction. Calling Ethiopians killers and merderers will send him to a burning hell. You can interview him from there.

      • saay7

        Hey Abi:

        Wow. Every time you and Eyob write, 10 Eritreans move from the silent majority or opposition to the PFDJ. It would take me all day to list all the ways that u and Eyob are wrong. And it’s actually something to behold because you are wrong about everything and u compensate for it by being oh-so-sure about everything. And u have that Glenn Close bunny-boiler vibe in the movie “Fatal Attraction.” What was her line? “I will not be ignored.” Really, that’s how you two sound.

        saay

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Saleh
          One day is good invevestment if you can emascualte Abi as you did with camels and his female name of his god Alula

          • Abi

            Hi semere
            Sexism is 16th century. What year is in eritrea? Every time you utter a word belittling women, 10,000 eritrean women join pfdj.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Abi:
            Look who is lecuring about sexisim. IN Eritrea we abandoned zrreffa (kidnapping of girls for marriage) long ago, the only credit i give to gheli
            So the emancipated Abi would name his son Sally or Aster or or B’anchi Wegga?
            There is a Ethiopain movie called “Difret ” by Ethiopains, watch it before you insult the entire people of Eritrea as 16 century

          • Fnote Selam

            Semere,

            If I may intervene, please stop this thread, it is not going to lead to anything useful to both people….

            FS.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            አረ ተው! ተው ! ኣሁን እንዲህ ይባላል :: ጥላቻን እየነዛህ እኮ ነው!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            አረ ተው! ተው ! ኣሁን እንዲህ ይባላል ? ጥላቻን እየነዛህ እኮ ነው!

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I wished you said the same when your hero called us killers and murderers. do you approve of that? I don’t think a Kokobe I know appreciate that kind of hate spewing speech.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo, enjoy this,

            ስቃይ ተሰቃይታ ታየች ስትሞት :-
            ፍጹም ኣልተቻለ ሃያል ነው ትእግስት ::

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Jegna anjetu ruhruh andebetu quTb
            Dekaman degafi gulbetun ayqoTb
            Yezendro jegnoch beqel yiwedalu
            Selam yeTemawun geday new yilalu
            Yesemayu kokob mengedun yimrachew
            Selamin endiyawqu fiqir endigebachew .

            Negeru yeTefaw kejimru
            Bitweded teblew siTeru
            ” Bit” yilal ferenj tinish lemalet
            “Mewded ” bagerachin fiqir lemasayet
            Tinish ena Fiqir eko endet?
            Abrew ayitsafum yihonalu haTyat.

          • saay7

            Hi Sem:

            Who, me? ወሪዱኒ ጓል ቀሺ! All I did is point out what the Ferenj has written:

            1. Abi hates camels. But, after Somalia, no African country has more camels than Ethiopia. This means he hates his countrymen. Also his country: camel milk is a huge cash cow for Ethiopia, which they will need badly, now that coffee prices have hit a two year low;

            2. The name of the Ethiopian general, Alula, is Arabic origin: Al Ula (the first one; ie. the first female daughter.) Wasn’t me who said that, but those baby names encyclopedia.

            saay

        • Abi

          Hi Saay
          As long as I’m Michael Douglas in the movie I will be alright:)
          It is funny if my writing send 10 eritreans to PFDJ camp , that means you have a worthless opposition.
          My question is how many eritreans cross the border every time Semere writes? 3,000.

          • saay7

            Hey Abi:

            Nah, you are NOT michael Douglas. Eritreans are Michael Douglas. He had a one-night stand with Glenn Close (Ethiopia.). And she will not forget that he is so-over-her. Everything you write when it comes to Eritrea is very Glenn Close-ish. You give that crazy vibe that you would boil a rabbit to death just to score a point. But we are done. Our thing with Ethiopia was a one night stand. Stop reading all the love letters that michael Douglas wrote u when he strayed. Really really honest to God we are done. We have moved on. Also, Egyptians love having rabbit meat with spinach. Do u want to be like them? No! Move on. Go romance Djibouti Kenya South Sudan. We have been done for a very long time, don’t be fooled by the YGs and the GYs: they represent no one. Not even themselves: I hear GY is having a buyers remorse about his buyers remorse. Move on. Disperse. There is nothing to see here.

            Long live Bitweded.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Please tell me how one can be wrong by being appalled that a man, who wanted (demanded) to loot a property of a friendly country is held as a “hero” and sang for. Where is the logic in that?

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            That’s classic Glenn close 🙂 nobody except you and Abi even paid 1/10 of 1 millisecond of attention to what u and Abi are obsessing over. It’s. Not. About. You.

            Saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            It is about us. (Actually, gash Saleh made it about us, when he provided additional stuff)

            When I hear a man demanded to loot me and went to his leader with his demand. The chief gangster told him “.. not now, may be later..” He wasn’t happy and kept complaining and the honcho gangister decided to punish him harshly for his transgressions as all criminal ringleaders behave, when someone crosses them. It is about me, because they were fighting over my property

          • Saleh Johar

            Lij Eyob,
            You are still self-centered. It is about defying the gangster leader that your people fattened.

          • Saleh Johar

            Lij Eyob,
            Your jumping on this occassion to blast on us is not rational. Let me tell you this, I lost thousands of dollars on the crisis, I don’t know where my goods ended up. But this is not about me, or about you. That was addressed by the two governments, and was settled because they were in a honeymoon for some more years. It was settled. If you want to bring that retroactively, go ahead and good luck. Why do you find it difficult to accept Eritreans have their priorities and issues? Do you consider yourself our godfather, and we should think of what Eyob and his likes will think before we attend to our own affairs?

            Kindly understand that you have your equals in the die-hard PFDJ supporters, deal with them. But have some consideration for most of us who are not interested in the cross border squabbles–that is your thing, go ahead and face your equals. But let’s us attend to our affairs in our own way. And good job, you managed to twist a debate about an inspiring speech into some cartoons of whiskey, as you seem to think of it.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Gash Saleh,

            I didn’t talk about the carton of whiskey. I think somebody did. Without going into any further, I will leave it at that..

          • Hope

            Dear SGJ:
            Plus:
            The EPLF Gov even paid in cash the US Gov for its rotten wheat to shut them up,after they started to fuss up and came in defense of their PUPPUET!
            Talk about the billions of USD in human and material damage for over thirty years,which they cannot pay it for over 100 years !
            Yes indeed ,Gen Bitweded has been RIGHT that the property seized belonged to the EPLF Heroes,who sacrificed their comrades!
            100 percent of ERITREANs would have supported that and therefore,Gen Bitwedid Abreha has spoken on behalf of ERITREANS!

          • Aklilu Hailu

            ጋሽ ሳለህ፣ ምናልባት እኮ ጋሽ እዮብ ለሰርጉ ያስመጣው ውስኪዎች አብረው ተወርሰውበት ሰርጉን በጠላ ለመደገስ ስለተገደደ ይሆናል ስለ ኮንቴነሩ የሚጨቀጭቅህ

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Mr. Aklilu,

            ጠላ የሚለው ቃል ወርቅና ሰም ሆኖ በመግኘቱ – ተከሰዋል :: በክሱ መሰረት ከሳሹ ኣቶ ኢዮብና ተከሳሹ ክብርነትዎ ፍርድ ቤት እንድትቀርቡና ቃላችሁን እንድትሰጡ ትእዛዝ ኣስተላልፈናል:: ክሱ ኣቶ ኢዮብ የኤርትራን ነጻነት እየጠሉ ብግድ እንደተቀበሉት የዘርፉትን ቅኔ በተመለከተ መሆኑንና ጉዳዩ ይታይ ዘንድ የህግ ጠበቃዎን እንዲያዘጋጁ ልናሳስብ እንወዳለን::

            የኢትዮጵያና የኤርትራ ጠቅላይ ፍርድ ቤት 01.01.2016

          • Aklilu Hailu

            ክቡር ኮክሆብ፣ ይቺ ፍርድ ቤት ጥሪም ሰም እና ወርቅ ያዘለች ትመስላለች። ብዙዎች እንዲህ ተጠርተው አልተመለሱም…ሆሆሆ ጎመን በጤና 🙂

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Aklilu,

            ኣይደል ? ጠንቀቅ ነዋ !በሳቅ ልሞት ነው :: “ሆሆሆ ጎመን በጤና 🙂 ” Lol. እርሳስዎን በጅ መደፍዎ ከማስገባት በፊት – ወደ ጦር ሜዳ እየገሰገሱ መሆንዎን ኣይርሱ ጋሸ! I don’t know who said it ” remember, the time you start writing you are declaring war” ውይኔ! ውይኔ i ኣላሉም ? ይህንንም ቃል ኣይደጋግሙት ወደ -ወያኔ! ወያኔ ! ይቀየራል :: ችግር ነው !!

          • Aklilu Hailu

            ውድ ኮክሆቤ፣ ልገምት ካልኩ እቺ አባባል የመጣችው ከinternet warriors ጓዳ ትመስላለች። ግን እውነት ጦርነት ማለት በብዕር ብቻ ቢሆን እንዴት መልካም ነበር 🙂

          • Eyob Medhane

            Aklilu,

            Beneger tezetezkegn eko… 😉

          • Aklilu Hailu

            ኧረ እኔው በነገር ልጠዝጠዝሎት ጌታዬ፣ የዊስከዎ መወረስ ሳይንሶት ደግሞ በነገር ይጠዝጠዙ ? እኔን እኔን

          • Kokhob Selam

            እማምላክን : እኔም ከየት እንደመጣችልኝ ኣላውቅም: ግን ማን ለክስ ያቀርበኛል ብለህ ነው : እንተም ተጠቀምባት እና ሰዎች ከጠየቁህ ከኾብ የቀልድ ጓዳ የተገኘች ጥቅስ ናት በላቸው ::

            በመንግስቱ ዘመን በከተማም ሆነ በገጠሩ በሻዕብያም ሆነ በወያኔ ኣንድ እውነት ስትናገር ኣስር ጥይት ይቶኮስብህ ነበር :: ኣስር ጥይት ከቶኮስክ ደሞ ኣንድ እውነተኛ ጠላት እና ዘጠኝ ምንም ያልበደለ ሰው ትገደል ነበር :: ዛሬ በቃ ኢንተርኔት ይኑርልን – በለው ነው :: ኣረ ድያ ትግል ድሮ ቀረ ኣቦ !

          • Aklilu Hailu

            ካካካካካ እውነትም ትግል ድሮ ቀረ፣ ለነገሩ ሁሉ በጠረቤዛ ዙርያ መፈታት ሲችል የኛ ሰው ሽጉጥ ለመማዘዝ ይቸኩላል።

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Aklilu,

            እንዴታ! ሸጉጥ ካጥም በመለኪያው ይፈናከታል :: ግድ የለዎም!

          • Eyob Medhane

            Kohkob,

            Probably you are the only one I will NEVER be upset with for saying anything you want. You know you are in my list, as one of the closet Ethiopians, a closet Amhara.. 🙂

            Now about the trial, who are the judges. Can they be bribed? …:-)

          • Kokhob Selam

            Wow! thank you.

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            You know Glenn died in that movie. Shot at the chest. Is that what you wish for us? 🙂 Can’t we all have a happy ending somehow? Who’s Dougla’s wife in this scenario you cooked up? oh so many questions…

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            No, no, no! Not Ethiopians. We LOVE Ethiopia and Ethiopians. But, um, do you watch The Walking Dead? Its a zombie show. There are some people who are infected, and there is no cure. Except a stake to the heart:)

            I was going to share this with Abi and Eyob, but they are zombies about Eritrea. So, I will appeal to your sense of fairness:

            Step 1: Copy Semere Andom’s translation of Bitweded’s words.
            Step 2: Open a tab at http://www.wordle.net/create
            Step 3: Paste

            (If you don’t have Java,curse Java, install it.)

            Now, see the image representation of the words to see what the speech is about. It is about:

            1. PEACE
            2. Forgiveness
            3. People
            4. Justice
            5. Independence
            6. Reconciliation

            Go ahead, I will wait.

            Now, when you have verified that for yourself, please help me sharpen the stake to help Abi and Eyob cure themselves from whatever is ailing them.

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            When do you ever see me stab my fellow country men in the chest ? 🙂 And btw in The Walking Dead, they kill the zombies by stabbing them in the head 🙂 and the Glenn in this one is still alive. You love that name or gravitate towards it for some strange reason. What’s up with that Saay 🙂 coincidence or somebody named Glenn broke your heart ? 🙂

            So Saay, keep the stake knife in the drawer. There’s not enough meat to slice from this familiar horn beef(yes pun intended).

            p.s. Have you watched Tim Robbin’s new comedy show? It ended its first season with a Pakistan jet heading for Israel to nuke it, hit by a U.S. jet and crashed in Eritrea with the nuke intact and found by a shepherd before it fall in the hands of militias(terrorists?) . It’s not a bad one cause Tim Robins.

            Thans,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Selam Addis:

            Fine. I would like what I wrote before to stand with this modification:

            “Dear Addis Fair-Minded Ethiopians.”

            We are running a university here and, obviously, you can’t overcome your tribalism (fraternity/sorority) of “never criticize another Ethiopian when the subject is Eritrea.” Tsk, tsk:) Once again, Eritreans must civilize Ethiopians:)))))

            No, I didn’t watch Tim Robbins…is it any good? Also, I have never watched a full episode of “Walking Dead”, although some family members who don’t want to be mentioned are obsessed with the show:)

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Sal
            “neger zeytsegebes gual qatta yhtse”:
            Are you trying to incite Abi instead of doing what I told you to do 😉

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Oh..you are very kind that you address me, as “Dear fair minded Ethiopians” 🙂 I am touched..

            About an Ethiopian not criticizing another Ethiopian, you must have missed Addis slapping me around, uncontested the other day. I am still bleeding from that.. 🙂

          • saay7

            Hey Eyobai:

            It looks like Speedy-Gonzalez is at it again with his supersonic reading and missing things. What I said is that Addis doesn’t criticize his fellow Ethiopians when the issue is Eritrea. Classic group-think that we Eritreans have liberated ourselves from:)

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            What? You liberated yourselves from “group think”? When did that happen? How did the world miss that? I thought the definition of Eritreans was “hade lebi, hade hizbi”? Woche guuuuuuuud!!!!

          • saay7

            Hey Speedy Gonzalez:

            We. Here. At Awate University:)

            saay

          • Fnote Selam

            Saay,

            Good point. I would actually say on the opposition side, we have reached the limits of how diverse opinions could be. Just looking at relation with Eth, we have opinions that range from from arguably ‘anti Eritrea’ (YG and co), to union with Eth (VF…), to land utilization swap/sea access compromise with Eth (me….), to variety of other arrangements with Eth (just about everyone in this forum, for example, have their unique opinions), to unfortunately (IMO) advocates of status quo situation with Eth….There are similarly very diverse opinions on just about every Eritrean issue. I would argue actually, on the opposition side, consolidation of opinions is what is needed….

            Can’t say much on the PFDJ side…

            You know, the other day, the reason I was flogging Haile (Haile, we dont have to re-visit the topic…) on the issue of belligerence is exactly this; Eritreans (again talking on the opposition side and even the so called silent majority) have come a long way from the post independence way of thinking and mind set, and have established quite a diverse set of idea on a lot of issues including relation with Eth (very friendly for the most part, IMO)….and Yes, we still have some way to go to reach maturation, but i was kind of disappointed to see that characterization by Haile….

            On related issue, i think i am ‘ok’ with the many things many ethiopians say of eris (esp those of us on the opp side), but one thing that i think is really unfair is when some of them take something pfdjites say/do and present it as if we all said/done it (with no effort to use some distinguishing words/phrases such as ‘some eris’). For example, just look at some of the comments in the past 2-3 days….

            FS.

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            I am just reading all the replies here 🙂 I have been called many things but an example of group-think isn’t one of them. So offended right now I might ….never mind 🙂

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Saleh Johar

            Eyob,
            Don’t worry abou Saay, you are the fairest mind of the all. 🙂

          • saay7

            Hey SGJ:

            In case you missed it, there is a new Ethiopian wit. This is how he explained Eyob’s obsession with trivia:

            ጋሽ ሳለህ፣ ምናልባት እኮ ጋሽ እዮብ ለሰርጉ ያስመጣው ውስኪዎች አብረው ተወርሰውበት ሰርጉን በጠላ ለመደገስ ስለተገደደ ይሆናል ስለ ኮንቴነሩ የሚጨቀጭቅህ

            That is so funny:)

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Saay,
            In that case he has all the rights to be mad. Was the Tella Duqqa or tseraay?

          • አዲስ

            Dear “Civilized” Eritreans like Saay:),

            Please quit asking us to stab our country men in the chest 🙂 We (not fair-minded Ethiopians) are more interested in engaging with each other in discussion when the subject matter is worth discussing. Not when it’s a typical tit-for-tat horn politics.

            Also what’s your obsession with violence even in your metaphors ? :)))

            Sincerely,
            Your “uncivilized” neighbor

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            Really? I hadn’t noticed that. I actually spent part of my day mocking Pro-gov Eritreans who describe their very modest contributions (tweeting, writing letters to the editor) as “defending the motherland” because “battle lines have been drawn.” So thanks for bringing it to my attention. It’s probably too much gangster hip hop and heavy metal music:

            Today’s a good day
            Didn’t even have to use my AK
            —- Ice Cube

            We fought him hard
            We fought him well
            Out in the plains
            We gave him hell
            — Iron Maiden

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Homeboy Saay 🙂

            You just referenced one of my favorite song. “Today was a good day”. I hope it really was for all of you here.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            How do I make it up to you? I know! How about the most unusual reference to the song from a great series, Generation Kill?

            http://youtu.be/N8xRIadxNp4

            Saay

          • አዲስ

            Haha Saay,

            That was great. Thanks for the laugh. I must admit I haven’t watched that series. After this, may be I should.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            It was an HBO special based on a Rolling Stone embedded soldier reportage of American soldiers in Iraq. It’s brutal. It’s from GWB era, check it.

            Saay

          • Abi

            Hi Eyobe
            It is easy to understand. The guy wanted to loot ethiopian property and used colorful words towards ethiopia , he became a hero. He is an eritrean 21st century Robin Hood.

    • Dear Semere Andom,
      When I said the author, it is because I wanted to give more weight to the article, the effort put in to it and of course to the writer, as compared to writing a comment. I appreciate the time and intellectual energy
      invested in an article, a book etc., whether I agree or not with the opinion presented. Sometimes you have to forgive me for my English, because I really do not feel comfortable with it, and I might unwittingly make a mistake due to shortage of the right words. Awate.com has become a home for many of us. We agree/disagree, irritate each other sometimes, and might even manifest too much of patriotism, as if each one of us is bestowed with the responsibility of defending our countries; nevertheless, alienation, animosity or disrespect is out of the question.
      Regards.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Horizon,
        You pointed out to a pervasive problem that is perpetuated in discussion forums (and habesha restaurants in the West). Some people think that they are fighting the final decisive battle by using an arsenal of fiery comments, because their comments will make or break their country. Acting as guardians of their respective countries, they engage in this bloodless fight and declare victory–the borders are safe, the motherland is secure. It’s all about ego and Gurra. Giving our comments more than their trues worth, and assigning to ourselves the task of the defense forces, is just too much ego.

  • Ahmed Raji

    The word ‘historic’ gets thrown around quite regularly. This speech, however, is one that truly merits the distinction. In an intense and lucid language Bitweded exposed his corrupt and tyrannical jailers. Yet, he showed magnanimity and wisdom, calling for a forward looking and conciliatory attitude. Most importantly, he urged Eritreans to confront the leadership’s lawlessness and stand up for the rule of law.
    Thank you Semere for translating this historic speech and putting in the pantheon of great speeches where it belongs.

  • saay7

    Selamat A. Osman and Haile TG:

    Meet me in Camera 2, http://awate.com/eritreas-new-capital-and-social-control-through-currency-change/ for an update on the additional information to the addition information of the Nakfa Reclamation/Confiscation/Conversion drama.

    saay

  • Saleh Johar

    Selam all,

    Here is some of information that might help you understand the victimization of Bitweded Abraha. It is from a book, “The Hidden Party” by Colonel Tsegu Fesshaye. Originally in Tigrinya, the English translation of the book will be printed and available for distribution very soon. The book explains the entire saga of the arrest of Bitweded and the evil accusations leveled against him. According to Colonel Tsegu, the reason is summarized as follows:

    “After the Derg was defeated and left Asseb, the goods that were captured in the port city were being sent from Assab to Asmara through Massawa, but after sometime, Isaias instructed Bitweded to deliver it to the TPLF instead. Bitweded objected to that: reasoning how something gained by the blood of Eritrean martyrs could be given to the TPLF?”

    • አዲስ

      Hi Saleh,

      The goods you are talking about at Assab, to whom do they belong to? any indication of that in the book? may be a rough estimate? or Is it the case of two thieves disagreeing on how to divide a stolen good ?

      Thanks,
      Addis

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Saleh
      This guy is worse than I thought. He is going Lower and lower by a minute.
      President Isayas is absolutely right to send this thief to era Ero . Doesn’t he know the property belongs to ethiopian people? This is as bad as highway robbery. I think he found the right place in solitary confinement. The world is a better place without such robbers.

      • Ted

        Hi, Abi, stick to the script. IA is bad bad bad.

        • Abi

          Hi Ted
          What script? I got no script.
          Bitweded is worse, worse, worse.

          • Ted

            Hi Abi, i thought you are Ethiopian;-)

          • Abi

            Ted,
            You got me there. I missed the joke. Tell me.

      • Eyob Medhane

        Gash Saleh,

        I am sorry, but you made the guy sound real bad. The shipments that were in Assab were, food, cooking oil, cloths, machinery that largely is owned by private individuals. And he wanted to take that? Mind you, he wanted to do that, while the two governments were in friendly terms. What would he have done, if he was in charge, when there was war? Amazing!!!!!!!

        • Amanuel

          Hi Eyob
          It happened that those shipments were found on some once land taken by force. Let me give you an example. Let say, you kick me out from my house and you store food it belongs to your cousins in it. Then I fight back and defeat you. Do you expect me the content of my house to give it back? Two weeks before this incident, Bitew led his army and liberated Asseb paying blood. Please grow up and get real.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Aman,

            You have a habbit of trapping yourself in arguments that tie up head to toe.

            According to your logic, Ethiopia had A LEGITIMATE reason to repossess and take over all properties of Eritreans, who lived in Ethiopia, when it deported the. And, they have NO RIGHT to ask question or complain about it. Thank you for agreeing with me.

            Have I grown up enough for you, now?

          • Amanuel

            Hi Eyob
            You are not comparing apple with apple. Those Eritreans and Eritrean descent Ethiopian were not invaders. They went to Ethiopia in a peaceful means and accumulated what they had working hard, however the shipment in question was left behind by invading government and the responsibility lies with that government not with victim.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Amanuel,

            You just are about to make me quote the infamous (mostly out of context) quote of Meles Zenawi. As a state, Ethiopia has a legitimate right to decide and define a foreign entity that lives with in its border, about what it should be called. (Yes there are international conventions that may need to apply in most cases) But, at the time of war, the given country has a right to define its relationship of citizens of a hostile country, who live with in its borders. Therefore, if we say they were invaders, what we say about them stands. Not how you define them. Therefore, Meles Zenawi said, “..If we say that we didn’t like the color of their eyes and they need to go, without a security or any other issue being discussed, that just could be a reason for them to go…”. And that was correct…

          • Amanuel

            Hi Eyob
            You are acting like a trout just been fished out. Don’t be a catholic above the Pope. And MZ said it was a mistake later on.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Aman,

            I don’t care what Meles Zenawi said later on. I don’t have to agree with him all the time. Therefore, I agree what he said early on and may disagree what he said later on. Here is the difference, though. Meles Zenawi is not alive, may he rest in peace. I am. So, as long as I live I am a breathing thinking human being, who say what I feel and if I can shape opinions of any issue. What he thought a mistake LATER ON is night for me. He is not around to repeat that you. And I am afraid, you will never find another public official, who’d make that statement ever again… How about that?

        • Saleh Johar

          Lij Eyob,
          Stop pretending that everything Eritreans do centers around your ego. We have enough of our own with bigger egos. Be rational, it’s not only cooking oil and clothes that you try to make Assab as if it was a Mercato shop, there were many other stuff, including armaments. Whatever it maybe, how to dispose it was a serious political decision and senior combatants, just out of war, would naturally have different opinions. What is wrong with that?

          Besides, we are not judging on peripheral issues, because Bitweded was not in charge of foreign policy, he was a soldier. The significance of his speech is in relation to rule of law, to reconciliation, to defiance and standing tall. Why do you want it to be discounted to a minor day to day operational decision? This is not about cooking oil, this is about a nation. Come out of your self-centered views 🙂

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Abi,

        You make is sound like as if Derg was covering us with butter (Tesmi yleKuyan nerom).

        Like I said, you are not reading this with proper context. He was one of the commanders who freed Assab, just 6 months before what the Ethiopian government did at Massawa bombing the city and the people with cluster bomb. move to 2 min for ABC coverage with Ted Couple night line.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXk9ljZ3kI#t=99

        I don’t expect you to change your mind or opinion but just to point out that we are talking about the same period. At least try to see it from other people’s perspective.

        Berhe

  • saay7

    Hi Cousin Sem:

    Thanks for your service in translating the speech and making it available to a wider audience. It must be Great Eritreans month because in November we have published the works/bio of Welwel, Ras Tesemma and now Bitweded.

    The most revolutionary part of Bitweded in Adi Mengotti may not be the speech but the location. In EPLF culture, one is strongly discouraged from showing any affinity for his/her hometown/village. Once you are married to the EPLF*, all parts of Eritrea are supposed to be of equal significance to you and the best way to prove it is to avoid your birthplace: never visit it. If you do, well, it is very likely that your loyalty to Eritrea is questionable and you are a sub-nationalist (which is the worst sin in secular Eritrea.)

    The more senior your position, the more unforgivable the taboo. For example, you could see all of the film-reels of Isaias Afwerki conducting ‘a working visit’ to inspect a dam or to give advise to a farmer, teacher, architect going back 20 years. Not one of them is in his ancestral home in Tselot. As a matter of fact, one of the wikileaks reported that Tselot is a highly-neglected part of Eritrea–must have been music to Isaias’s ears. And so, just the mere presence of Bitweded In Adi Mengotti was revolutionary.

    saay

    * I use the marriage metaphor intentionally. In our bahltatna that we never tire of praising, a married woman doesn’t go to visit her family in a different village without the husband’s approval. Except when she is delivering her first baby or when is divorced.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Sal:
      Thanks. I never thought about your take on the location of speech. Indeed he broke that rule too, including his Tigriniya, I hankered on the Kidane Mhret, an EPLF tegadalay invoking saints?
      The last time a former security guard talked about him with Assenna he was not doing good.
      I hope some make it alive when PFDJ is removed, but no one makes it alive from PFDJ prisoners ever and thus the urgency.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Hi ወደቦይ ዓንዶም

    ኣታ ቀናእ ! ወደቦይ ዓንዶም ቀናእ ምዃንካ ኣቅኒኡኒ :: ስጋቦይ ቀኒአ ::እዋእ ንቅንኣት ዘርክብ ኣጸጋሚ ነገር ኮ የለን:: እንኳዕ እኳ ቅዱስ ገበሮ እምበር:: እሞ ቅዱስ ቅን ኣተይ ዘመንጨወን ቃላት ዶ ክገጣጥም? ፍሽኽ ኢልካ ጀምሮ :: መካኒክ ቃላት ዶ በልካ ? ጆባእ !! short ,simple, double and joined line poem. that is what SGL loves.

    ….. ዕርቂ ክሰፍን እዩ ……

    ኣብ ክሊ ሃገርነት : – ዘይዕጸፍ መትከል :-
    ኣብ ክሊ ሓድነት :- ብሰላም ዝምእከል :-
    ቃልስና ንዕብየት :- ብጹፉፍ ምምዕባል :-
    መስተርሆ ውጹዓት :- ባንዴራ ተምበልብል ::

    ባንዴራ ናይ ሓባር :- ሰላም ዝዓሰላ :-
    ሰንደቅና ብጥሙር :- ኩሉ ዘጽልለላ :-
    ክት ህሉ እያ ሃገር :- ሓፋሽ ዝኾርዓላ :-
    ዓሙቕ ምክብባር :- ንፍቅሪ ሓዚላ ::

    ሓፋሸይ ይበገስ:- ዕላምኡ ሰንዩ :-
    ፍቅሪ ውን ትንገስ:- ጽልኢ ሁከት ዓንዩ :-
    ታሪኽ ይተሓደስ :- ዝሓለፈ በልዩ :-
    ዝውረስ ይወረስ : – ጸጽቡቅ ተመምዩ :-
    …… ስውእ ‘ውን ይደበስ : -ዝሓለፎ በኽዩ :-
    ……ንተሓጎስ ደስደስ : -ዕርቂ ክስስን እዩ :: (2)

  • L.T

    Thanks to Kokob Selam for your well-founded answer to Abi and I’ll joked with him now.
    Abi you lose Asseb and it has been 17 years already and you do wello without Asseb.You can fish tonnes of fish in the “Tana river and swim in Deberezeyti “Bishufutu” water.
    To Bitweded(Bitew Abraha)
    Bitweded big mistak was that feels that his freedom of speech was fine recovery and contribute to Eritrea but varely,He should not open his municipality and guard his tongue to the Uncle,Isaias in that time has made great effort to asseb use Ethiopia 80% and Massawa 50% to Tigray.Isaias had a strong appetite to help Tigria and Weyane and he was clear about things but when Biteweded gets in his way Isaias not cope this without sitting him isolate.He Isaias handled well througout the business but Weyane came and want more and he was not ready to this.
    The two countries need each other for example
    if We want to collect pepper from Humora
    they can pick the fish from Massawa.
    If we want lamp belted from Gonder
    with tsaada Taff enjera.
    they need in their turn salt
    from us.
    So we can cook sauce (Slsi)
    and can be measured both
    by TesebHi..

    • Fetima Dechasa

      Hello LT,

      I’m not sure I get the gist of your overall statement but I disagree that the two countries need each other as it’s evident in the last ten years. I also disagree with your suggestion that Ethiopia needs salt from Eritrea? I don’t think so. The Afar region of Ethiopia produces enough Amolee to sustain half of Africa. Do we need to fish in Masawa? No we do not, fish isn’t even a staple diet in most the country, what Ethiopia needs in food and water sustainability cannot be obtained from Eritrea. I’m not sure what sort of special sauce you guys cook up north but I’m certain that we Ethiopians have enough verities of our own sauces to never have to look back.

      It is very sducidal for any Ethiopian to even have such mindset after what transpired between the two countries and people. The Ethiopian public was blindsided by the sheer hate and decades of deception by the Eritreans who lived amongst us, wolves in sheep clothing. “Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, you can’t fool me again.” – George W. Bush

      I know the quote isn’t accurate but I like GWB’s version better.

      • sara

        Dear Ms -fetima
        well said , and thank you. Eritrea doesn’t need Ethiopia or vice versa…and that hopefully for eternity. please drum up such truth in all your entries so that those who are “in sheep clothing” to wake up and stop hypnotizing .

        • Ted

          Hi sara, amen. We are not out of the wood yet but the future is friendly.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear L.T,
      Thank you.
      The man (Bitweded) was very innocent and he even try to soften the heart of those wild animal type guys. the problem with me is, I start crying earlier than most who just learn that PFDJ was not for peace. The mistake of our heroes in EPLF was the same always hoping IA and his clique will be corrected. worst, even Deru’e and the entire G15 try to reform after painful experience of Bitweded. I fill guilty of not voicing higher than I use to do. I am having heartache for watching them suffering. The first medicine I found is to be kind to them although they had their mistakes for being under IA. they have been against me and my views or the ideology I follow. But there is no way and no other treatment except reconciliation. I love them now, and I feel responsible. Let us work together all.

  • L.T

    “ZeyebKi diyu zebkeyeni?” Said SAAY whenever he saw people that they cry a lot of unnecessary or bubble but there are many things that are natural,you can cry but you do not want to or vice versa.If I understand correctly “Maráaba” are in Akeleguzai and “Adi Mongotti” is in Serayee and I do not take that the article why come one after another in series in Awate in the present situation.Ok Maraaba means “MiErab(West) and Maraaba means “MerHaba”too..and in close Tigray and “Adi Mongotti” means”mongo” thus in the meddle of Hammasien,Serayee and Akeleguzai or right and straight to say Logo-Chuwa.Therfor,though I think you we should respect all people regardless of where he/she comes from.For too long since (I will not mention his name)said on Azmarino”There is only one people in Eritrea which has the power that comes from Serayee and he is Dr Weldaeb Isaack” and then I do not know where I was?I was close and necessary to trip me up to tell him that there are many people coming from Serayee so clear..
    I give you the name:-
    Dr Weldaeb Isaack,Mej General Haile Samuel,Mej General Asmerom G.Egzabher,Dr Ande Berhan Andegirgis,Haile Monkorios,Fozia Hashim,B.General Mebrahtu Teklab,Mej Gen Berhane G.Ezabher,Ali Abdu,Saleh Meki,Andemicheal Kahasai(Grat -Gebru,Logo-Chuwa)Enj Abraham Weldemicheal,Kahasia (Meraguz – May Chaeada),Ali Haji,…….I think it is ok to have “Awraja” and is a private matter and that one can rise up and choose a secluded “Awraja” to live on and it is also ok additionally more pleasant for Eveyone..
    Maraaba
    or Angola
    May chada
    or Australia,
    Adi mongotti
    or Enda Mellotti
    Dubaruba or Shiketi
    or Adi Akelo
    Adi AwHi…
    or Embardea Himbrti
    Adi Begie or Adi Keshi……..

    • L.T

      Ok but sometimes I have trouble what should I write(I can not write the whole meaning and the article but only in the short-answer and I’m good at..I think)If I jumped the line(Eg If Awraja what is wrong with this?All talk about it and I want to write openly and do not hurt any.
      Belu’sKi anyhow…

  • Abi

    Hi All
    If this gentleman man was imprisoned because he was against the port use of his murderers, he should revise his speech. he is preaching reconciliation and peace at the same time he is still talking about why his murderers south of the border are using his port. It sounds as if his fellow citizens paid dearly to prohibit ethiopian usage of the port. At the time of his objections of the port use , his fellow citizens in Ethiopian cities were singing ” Ethiopia yegarachin, Eritrea yegarachin.” He is talking about a port while his people chocking ethiopian business people to death.
    He is extremely cheap.
    Nothing to learn from self-centered people.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Abi,
      I hope no one will reply you at this time. the article is heart touching and you are in Zeraf Zeraf stage.

      • Abi

        Kokobe
        I’m not expecting a reply. I just said what I felt is right. Again, by the time this person was fighting to prohibit ethiopia of the port use, eritrea was colonizing ethiopia. That is why I always say 1998 is our independence year.
        Kokobe, I have passed the zeraf zeraf stage long time ago. It is your guy still talking about merderous ethiopia long after the war had ended . When your guy was talking nonsense, eritreans in ethiopia were flying high, they were in the universities, government offices, private businesses etcetera. Why is the port use is an issue when it comes to ethiopia?
        Very selfish and extremely arrogant of him. His Excellency President Isayas Afewerki is much wiser than this guy.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Abi,
          the hero is in prison, he had been imprisoned with out any legally examined reason. first start to think a man like you is suffering, just start with that stage. be kind please.

          Now, I am the man who want to see the two nations working united against poverty. But, you have seen me how I argue when PFDJ supporters were celebrating about lease of Assab to Arabs. it is the same if the case is for Ethiopia. Assab is an Eritrean port. no compromise on that. again if there will be any type of agreement it should be under legally chosen government with clear system. so not only the man in prison, but every Eritrean who want to see prosperous and peaceful nation will die for this stand.

          Abo, why is the Assab case creating fire on your head? do you have any feeling that Assab belongs to Ethiopia?

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Your definition of a hero is totally different from mine. Fortunately, I’m blessed with heroes that I celebrate everyday .
            Kokobe, there is no reason why Assab create fire on my head. I have no plan to go there and burn myself in that heat. Moreover, assab does not belong to ethiopia. It is yours and yours only.
            I’m Sorry the guy is in prison. He should have stayed at assab and watch the port turned to be a ghost city. That is how he should have been taught a lesson.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,
            you don’t have to be sorry. nations just pass such type of experience learn. you have been fighting in our own land for long then one day you learn for all time waste and all souls lost. now, you are using Blue Nile properly. sure, red sea will be the best port and sure you can get service through clear mutual agreement. no one will force you to use it but again that is your 2nd nation proud to serve you.

    • Eyob Medhane

      Abiti,

      I hope from where ever he is, he is singing ‘hallelujah’ for his mission accomplished. He got what he asked for. “The ports”. His “enemies” are not using them anymore. His ego is well fed that, he managed to “choke” his ‘enemies’. Verses what? I’ll stop here, except saying that lately, there seems to be a search of a new hero to be relied around and in that effort these long forgotten dubious characters are getting polished and get presented, as if they were as sweet as Desta Keremela. May be the feeling of hating and damning Ethiopia in the new generation is waning. So, they are being dug up to revive the good old hate that sustains the Kebessa and cut them off their Southern kin, which as a result being a life line of a dying dream of the “Jumaharya”…

      • Abi

        Eyobe
        Rabbi siyakenu
        The future is brighter
        Can it come any faster?
        Bring us happiness and laughter!

        • Eyob Medhane

          Abishu,

          Amiiiiiin! Gaalatoma, gofta ko..

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Eyob, Fatima and other Ethiopian Friends,

        I don’t know why we have to make his speech a political tool and is being seen as against Ethiopia.

        He also said in the same speech “There will always be conflicts and divergent views and fights, but the best solution is to sit around the table, like we are doing right now, in peace, and in a legal manner, with a democratic dialogue to solve it. It is not weakness, it is the least costly with bigger gains for victory for peace, a price for peace.”.

        I think Eritreans that I know are happy on the economic and other progress Ethiopia is making.

        If we have a good government that works for the benefit of the people, I am sure we can get the same Chinese to invest in our country and make our coast line, a tourist heaven the entire African continent, as well as Europeans and people from middle east.

        Berhe

      • Dear Eyob,
        Despite what he said about chocking the enemy, the picture he gave was that of a self-pitting apologetic person towards his incarcerators and tormentors, with little or no anger for the injustice incurred on him. It reminds us of Mandela, King and others, only that he has a lot of hate for those whom he calls “our killers and murderers”. If he could wait for fifty years to get independence, he sees no problem to wait another fifty until freedom arrives. Forgiveness, reconciliation, wisdom and no armed opposition are the things he could come up with against a vicious dictator.
        Is this the mindset of one person only? I do not think so. Even today, if the regime commits a thousand crimes, many are ready to forgive it a thousand times over, as long as the enemy (Ethiopia) continues to be around. I can understand why the person said what he said, because of the time (1997), nevertheless, I really do not understand why the author brought this translation at this point in Eritrean history, when appeasing with DIA is more deadly than a Faustian bargain, and we know very well who ultimately lost as much as using Assab is concerned.

        • Saleh Johar

          Dear Horizon,
          Please don’t read too much into it–leave that to Eyob 🙂

          Let me explain to you the story.

          Bitweded’s speech was hidden for almost two decades somewhere, with someone, and it was made public a few weeks ago. You can understand why people will talk about it and revive the almost hushed predicament of Bitweded. He is s soldier and he bled to remove the Derg from Eritrea, but finds himself in charge of the goods in Asseb and he had to make a decision (and naturally takes a position). He objected to Isaias’ orders and Isaias sent him to the dungeons for years. Finally, after people started to talk about him, and the border war was starting, Isaias could have thought of assigning him to the battle field, and he was released. The man was bold enough to make that speech which made Isaias send him back to prison. Now, why would some of our friends in this forum try to make this as if it is centered on Eritrea’s foreign policy on Ethiopia? There are internal Eritrean issues and naturally there are divergence of views regarding many things. What most Eritreans get from that speech is a spirit of reconciliation, forgiveness and extolling of rule of law. That makes Bitweded.

        • Eyob Medhane

          Horizon,

          You said..
          “….only that he has a lot of hate for those whom he calls “our killers and murderers”. If he could wait for fifty years to get independence, he sees no problem to wait another fifty until freedom arrives. Forgiveness, reconciliation, wisdom and no armed opposition are the things he could come up with against a vicious dictator…..”

          That was my point. The man seemed to have a lot of hate in him not to his jailers, but to Ethiopia and Ethiopians. Again, I really do wish well for him and to see to be out of jail and free or at least face his accusers in court. Yet, I have no hope that his number one enemy will be his jailers, but Ethiopia, if he gets out tomorrow…

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Abi,

      You are taking his speech and the paragraph way out of context. In the whole article, what was referred in terms of the “ports” are only this paragraph.

      “What I said was, we should not sell out and compromise our ports to our killers and murders, that is what I said and I am duty bound to do so, as it is my honor and your honor. I have to commit and advocate for my national and public interest.”

      Let’s assume that’s his point of view. The issue is NOT why someone should have a different view point. Off course he can have any point of view he wants, even if that point of view deemed wrong by other.

      The whole point is, WHY he is imprisoned without due process and having no means to defend himself by the president for such a long time (20 some years and continuing).

      Berhe

      • Eyob Medhane

        Berhe,

        You know, I understand why you want to white wash this. This article is not about ‘the rule of law’ or why this gentleman was arrested without due process. It is about a supposedly, “heroic” speach that he made.

        What was in this “heroic” speech? Well, in a nut shell, it describes Ethiopia and Ethiopians as “enemies” and regrets that his proposal of denying his enemies access to port was rejected by his now jailers. What’s appalling to me was that he made this speech, in 1998. After he has become a fully owner and operator of his ports. Not while he was struggling for their ownership. He still however thought that the possibility of his “enemies” usage of them was his primary concern. I hope he is alive and gets out one day to reflect on all this and regret.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Eyob,

          I am not trying to white wash anything. I am sorry but I disagree with you, this whole speech is about “justice” and “rule of law. I am not sure you read the whole article or heard the speech.

          He said “To bring change we need to commit, we should not fear, we should be brave. Do not fear a human being, fear the law and God.” Fear the Law and Fear God.

          He gave this speech in 1998, that was after serving over 6 years in prison which means he want to jail sometime in 1992, just over a year or so since Eritrean independence. He was jailed for having different opinion, even assuming if that’s the case.

          How many Ethiopian leaders and former leaders have different opinion about Eritrea independence? Are they rotting in jail for over 20 years for that????

          As to the other point you have made in regards to “shopping for heroes”, I am sorry you feel that way. If the intention is that, when Eritrean Christians realize that the independence was wrong and then fold and seek to unite with Ethiopia, I am not sure that’s the right approach.

          Eritreans Christians and Muslims fought for the rights, the same way Weyane I fought for their rights and who were bombed by Haile Selassie with the help of the British. The same way Weyane II rebelled for their rights and bombed and the Derg.

          Berhe

        • Ted

          Hi Eyob, regret you said, if anything Bitweded will be gloating ‘i told you so” if he ever gets out. He knew it is coming. We gave enough, Weyane wanted it all. God save us from confused Ethiopians. Either way, you have the bigger fish to fry: a better way getting food aid delivered fast. It seems Your ego is more important than starving people of yours. I like to believe, with prayer, the Ethiopian gov mouth piece like you, no one has died of hunger and never will.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Hi Ted,

            What exactly is it that you gave Ethiopia if I may ask? And are you sure you want to talk about food shortages and other sensitive issues as if your country is exempt from it?

            Thanks in advance.

          • Ted

            Hi FD, it is not about food but service, port service. Betweded was jailed for advocating the ports to be administered as sovereign state property not as IA intended and did(free for Ethiopians). Food, we need it ourselves too. Too bad no one knows or cares to tell us.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Ted,

            I don’t know what Betweded is or what he did. I took issue with your claims of giving so much to Ethiopia, which is utter nonsense. If anything Ethiopia and Ethiopians gave too much for Eritrea and in retrospective we realized that it wasn’t worth it and have moved on since. One thing I want to know is what is it about Eritreans like you taking issue with our ego? Is me having pride and ego in my country and identity (good or bad) a hit to your fragile ego??

          • Ted

            Hi FD, hahaaa you can’t sit in high horse for long before you said : “your fragile ego” i was talking to the man known to be wayane spokesperson when i say your ego(high development of Ethiopia verse defeated Ethiopia). the starvation is affecting all of us

          • Nitricc

            Hi Ted, please don’t make up things. There is no starvation in Ethiopia. How could be? The economy is blazing at 11%; brand new train station is just inaugurated; very soon space craft about to be launch for the space program in Mekelle. please, I suggest you worry about the starve Eritrean kids.
            Ted, have you noticed how the Ethiopians have more rights than Eritreans on this forum; they can post with out salutation and they get away with it, we forget the salutations our posts are deleted. Check all the Ethiopians on this thread and the moda went hiding.
            AT; If it is a rule be it to be the rule; what you are doing is not good.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Fatima,

            Do you remember a book called “Eyesaqu Malqes”? That is what Ted is doing. Let him. Mean spirited “starving Ethiopians” insult, usually is a character of largely Kebessa Eritreans like Ted, throw at us. An insult, which they shout, while the ground is shifting under their feet. I am afraid they continue to do so, until their vindictive arrogance, eventually makes them extinct.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Akkam bulte Eyobiti,

            I’ve heard the phrase “Eyesaqu Malqes’ but I never knew there was a book. I must find and read it.

            It’s utterly disgusting to use something as serious as El Nino as an ammo to insult people. I can speak on some of the horrific things I heard and saw while working in Northern Ethiopia from and about Eritrean refugees but I would never insult other Eritreans or those that are under those circumstances using that information. I don’t come from such vile culture. On the contrary, it seems some stoop to the lowest of low to direct their venom at us, it’s always ok to insult, accuse, and belittle, and revise history when it comes to Ethiopia.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Fatima,

            Fàya dà. Nàga gàlatà wàqa.

            You know that’s what I was thinking. If it were a back and forth rebuttals of referencing miseries, one could have a whole lot of bullets to fire from. But you’re right. Excelling with joy with misery of others is not our culture. It didn’t used to be Eritrean culture either. It is one of the ugly legacy of the Ghedli, which is destroying everything decent block by block and brick by brick.

            Anyway, Guuya gari, gifti ko..

          • አዲስ

            Hi Ted,

            You know you can make your point about Bitweded without bringing starving people here as the two are unrelated. It shouldn’t be the go-to argument whenever you feel an Ethiopian pisses you off. It’s cheap.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Ted

            Hi Addis, i didn’t. Eyob did. He mentioned never to use Eritrean port food aid delivery out of no where( BBC link). It seems appropriate to respond to him hunger has no place in politics. Cheap? i will refer that to Weyane mouthpiece.

        • Fenomeno

          Dear Eyob,

          I believe it is reasonable to disagree with general Bitweheded’s (supposedly) way handling of Assab port and his framing of Ethiopians.

          However, I believe that you are wrongly assessing the main reason why Eritreans would label this speech as heroic. It is not about the technical details of how he wanted to operate Asseb port or his particular framing of Ethiopians in the speech.

          Everyone understands how dangerous it is to publicly criticize Isiaias in Eritrea, also at that time, especially for someone in his position. He could have guessed that this current imprisonment(?) would be the price he would pay, however, he still did it. Off course one could question his true motivations for doing it, just as any other individuals his true intentions can always be questioned. However, we, those that find this speech heroic, believe that he was motivated by the idea that he was free to disagree with the policies of IA, and that fear for punishment should not withhold him from doing that, as that would mean that the struggle was good for nothing.

          Try to understand the time and the place. The main issue in this speech is his critique of his jailers (read: IA), who he forgives, but of which he knows that they are not the types waiting for forgiveness and being subsequently criticized after.

          I have no problem with admitting that Eritreans can be led by hatred for Ethiopians. However, if you see this speech as such an instance, then, if I was you, I would start thinking whether your own idea’s and thinking are not infected with the same hatred that you accuse other of having.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Abi

      I think you have got the wrong end of the stick. Bitew was imprisoned because he was against the use of ports by Ethiopians. He was imprisoned he opposed the type of agreement. I don’t want to go in to detail but at that time there was agreement regarding use of ports, refinery and Ethiopian property at Port between EPLF & TPLF representing their respected countries. He through the agreement favoured Ethiopian and he opposed it. As temporary administrator of Asseb, he went further and implemented his own defying IA direct order. That was the main reason he was imprisoned.

    • tes

      Hi Abi,

      I knew you were such an awful man.

      tes