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Human Rights Council Advances Eritrea Case To Security Council

In its June 8 report, the Commission of Inquiry (CoI) on Human Rights in Eritrea had made recommendations to eight parties: (1) the State of Eritrea; (2) the UN’s Human Rights Council (HRC); (3) the UN’s High Commissioner for Human Rights; (4) the UN’s General Assembly; (5) the UN’s Security Council, (6) the African Union; (7) Member States; and (8) Transnational corporations. Today,  the UN’s HRC, a trigger to all the other recommendations,  accepted by consensus all of the Commission’s recommendations, including the transmission of its report to the General Assembly, the Secretary General and the Security Council for “follow-up on its recommendations.”

The Human Rights Council is made of 47 member states, serving a three-year term.  Five of the 47 are African states.

The resolution was drafted by neighboring Djibouti and Somalia and, over the last week, there had been claims that the language was “watered down” and the resolution would die at the Human Rights Council.

The “water down” refers to changes in the language of the preamble, routine for a body that likes to decide by consensus or without a vote.

The government of Eritrea, which had characterized the report of the Commission of Inquiry as the opinion of three individuals, conducted an intensive effort to defeat the resolution and tabled its own resolution which mostly commends it for progress it has made.

Nonetheless, the Human Rights Council has resolved to accept the CoI’s recommendation to refer the report to all relevant bodies which certainly includes the General Assembly, the Secretary-General and the Security Council.

As of today, the report can no longer be dismissed as that of a “three-person panel.”

Because Eritrea is not a signatory to the Rome Statute, a referral to the International Criminal Court (ICC) can only happen if the UN keeps Eritrean human rights issue on its agenda, and the Security Council makes the referral.

The Security Council can expedite the issue by referring the case to the Chief Prosecutor of the ICC, Fatou Bentouda, who is well regarded and, because she is a Gambian, able to counter claims that the ICC targets only Africans.

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  • DreadFool

    150,000 Germans emigrated in 2015, they thought Merkel was running the BRD into the ground and decided to leave their homeland for greener grass (to smoke?). Volume migration is no blanket argument for EPLF malfeasance. 60,000 puerto Ricans ran off to the USA last year, 90,000 Cubans swam, flew and jumped off their tropical paradise to Miami, 900,000 Chinese dropped their chop stick and ran, need more stats?

    • DreadFool

      Selam kemey ‘alekum

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear All at Awate,
    Probably you may not know whom I am talking about, but we have real hero here among us. There is a hero who may have done one selfless thing for others. There are also some repeat heroes in every society. We have them in plenty in Eritrea as well. But this one I have in mind is so special in every scale of purity. It is like one star is outshining all others. You may never have seen another one like him. He is totally selfless, totally given to Eritrea, totally self contained, and always, and always fighting for others and for what he thinks right no matter what.The strength of his will is amazingly stronger than a mass of irons altogether. Consistency is his signature. He inspires peace onto others. You can trust him on anything. I am so elated we have been blessed by the presence of such a person among us.
    How Eritrea could have been lucky if she had embraced those who love her so much, who gave her so much, who never regretted on what they paid for her and yet never stopped loving her and caring for her to the last!!!God bless these heroes wherever they are!

    • iSem

      Hi Hayat:
      I am not sure who you are referring to but as BY once said quoting his second favorite actor, his first is Jerry S, I do not know what that means, but if that is good thing, I am it:-)
      So whoever our hero is, she or he, from any our ethnic groups or even a memer of the COI, I welcome him/her and may we all resemble him/her in some fashion

      • Hayat Adem

        Good iSem,
        You put it nicely. What I said about this person is only an understatement.
        The good and the bad are both accelerating the pace. That is kind of paradox. But beleive me, the good has overtaken long ago and the bad is trying to cover up the defeat by making more and louder noise. That is expected.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Hayat,
          What I lucky person is he to be appreciated to such level. I am sure he will do his best after reading this appreciation. Hayata you are the star that shines and gives light – please be around always.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Semere T and all,

    Please watch and hear what this gentle young man has to say. we are not going to talk about pre 1991 not at all that we have to wait some time more, Juts watch what is the truth including the NS some of you still support. the massage is for young according to him but watch to the end please watch it..I am really exited and interested.

    https://www.facebook.com/temesghen/videos/10154174030385406/

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Kokob,

      Thank you sharing, he is really good. Nitric this is for you, please take the time to listen, and hope you learn a thing or two about Eritrean youth and their commitment and sacrifices.

      Berhe

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Kokhobay,

      Thank you as always. Temesgen is a well articulated Eritrean. His message focused particularly to our young hit home and well received, indeed did generate over ten thousand of his generation or younger to Geneva, to echo their voices in support to Eritreans who become the victims of the regime. Go bless him and hopefully will find listening ears from those who are trapped by the lies and propaganda of the regime like our nitric and others.

      7Nitric, probably temesgen is your age, who did and experienced for the things you are proud of (he showed us all the document) but yet he is fighting against the suffocating regime voicing for those who lost their basic human rights. Did his message permeate to your head to mimic your rational mind?

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Hayat

    You’re missing the point. These are the arguments of the Eritrean opposition:

    (a) Eritreans inside Eritrea are against the PFDJ regime. But they are unable to express their true feelings because they are under a repressive regime.

    (b) Under the repressive PFDJ regime, every individual citizen between the age of 18-80 is trained, armed and on alert ready to fight.

    (c) The PFDJ regime is so cruel and repressive, 5000 Eritreans are leaving Eritrea each day. According to some opposition figures, today, there are over a million Eritreans outside Eritrea (one fifth of the population).

    Now:

    1. – If the Eritreans INSIDE Eritrea are supportive of the Eritrean opposition – or are against the repressive PFDJ regime, and if they are armed and trained killers (all soldiers), what is stopping them from deposing their repressive government?

    2. – If there are over a million victims of the PFDJ regime (who escaped from the PFDJ jaws of death) residing in the diaspora, how come they are not supporting the Eritrean opposition in mass? In the Diaspora, why are the Eritrean opposition organizations unable to assemble twenty people in a town of 5000 Eritreans?

    3. – Why are the very “victims” of the PFDJ regime in the diaspora, supporting (financially, materially, emotionally….) the very repressive regime that “victimized” them on the first place?

    The point: The argument of the opposition doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

    The rest of your ሓተታ is just ሃበስ ቀደስ

    Semere Tesfai

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear SemereT,
      Yes but is it really that complicated to know whether public support is with PFDJ or the opposition? There are more direct ways to find out if the population gave up on the opposition or the PFDJ:
      1) See if the playing field is leveled for both sides: PFDJ has all the national resources and they are allowed to operate and politic inside and outside the country. Does the opposition exercise the same power, privilege and right?
      2) PFDJ has to survive public vote of confidence. These can come from open parliament debates, free town hall discourses, elections, polls, free media reflections etc. The opposition doesn’t have to survive public vote of confidence as they are not yet entrusted with public office responsibilities and resources. The opposition only have to survive vote of confidence from their members, which is an internal matter.
      3) Public discontent is a direct statement of rejection on the ruling junta not on the opposition. For the opposition, it is member discontent that would bother them which is a party internal matter.
      4) Citizens wouldn’t go sleepless about the weaknesses of the opposition if they had no worry about the ruling party. It is only if the ruling party is gravely bad and dangerous that they start worrying about the readiness of the opposition to take over.
      5) Giving up on the opposition because of their weakness is an considered as an automated verdict and it is a virtue because of the inherent ability of the constituency to exit and withdraw support. Giving up on PFDJ is an existential danger because the monopoly of power, security, and resources they control and the sense of impunity they careless to unleash to maintain control risking the civil war and state failure. With them the very nation and people are gravely at stake. And yet as dangerous as it is, we are giving up on them.
      6) The rest is about inventory: count how many people exit the country, count how many people defect the ruling party, count how many artists and prominent persons leave the junta every year more than they join them,(in fact nobody joins at this point), count how many people are desperate for a change, count how many people feel hopeless rather than optimistic about the future, count how many people more people feel happier or unhappier under the leadership of the junta every single day…

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Hayat

        “It is complicated to know whether public support is with PFDJ or the opposition…… because the playing field is not leveled for both sides.”

        Well, let’s put your argument to the test

        (a). – Yes you are right, the playing field is not leveled INSIDE ERITREA. I get it. And I’m not going to make excuses for the PFDJ regime here. PFDJ failed to allow political pluralism in Eritrea. And all they ended-up is a one party political stagnation, which is not good for Eritrea. I’m with you on that.

        (b). – The playing field INSIDE ETHIOPIA is lopsided favoring/tilting towards the Eritrean opposition. And I’m told there are 200,000 Eritreans who run-away from the jaws of the PFDJ repressive regime living in Ethiopia. And with all the accommodation of the Addis regime to the Eritrean opposition, you know how much support the Eritrean opposition have inside Ethiopia, and you know how many people show-up during the STAGED anti PFDJ demonstrations.

        (c). – The playing field on the DIASPORA (outside Eritrea and Ethiopia) – just for the sake of argument, let’s say it is leveled evenly. Mind you, there are many people who believe, the diaspora is not leveled playing field. It is tilted favoring the opposition – with all the Western hired, activists, journalists, human rights advocates, different Eritrean and non Eritrean media outlets……. But still, even if we take the Diaspora as a level plain field, even if we assume it is a little tilted in favor of the PFDJ regime, the Eritrean opposition are not doing that well. And I don’t believe you’re going to deny this fact.

        Therefore, something must be wrong. The absence of a level paying field could not be the reason for the failure of the opposition. The opposition has one fifth of the Eritrean population outside the grip of PFDJ + satellite radios to reach inside the country to get their voice/message heard.

        The reason for their failure is clear to any Eritrean. Eritreans are against what the Eritrean opposition stand for. The Eritrean people want better governance and at least some semblance of democracy. But the Eritrean opposition got none.

        Democracy is all about COMPETING IDEAS represented by NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTIES that look like the nation itself. The Eritrean opposition got none. All they got is ethnic organizations, regional organizations, secessionist organizations, political Islam……. And that is not a solution but a problem in itself.

        I admit there are some nationalist organizations; but they are ineffective as well. The reason:

        (a). – They are dominated by Ethnic Tigrignas competing with PFDJ for the same constituents

        (b). – They are rejected by the Islamic, ethnic, and regional organizations – seen as round two of PFDJ reign

        (c). – They are too weak, too dependent on Ethiopia, under too much foreign influence to trust them to negotiate representing Eritrea and the Eritrean people’s interest.

        And that has left rational Eritreans with one choice: The Devil They Know.

        Semere Tesfai

        • Hayat Adem

          Okay SemereT,
          Please forget the opposition. If they are not useful, they are harmless. There is an in-built corrective constraint with them. If they don’t do good, they will never grow. They can only grow if they keep their houses and brains clean. What that means is they are hopeful earners. We are not at their mercy. They are. So, you have complete control over them as they can only grow if you can support them and you can’t support them if they are unable to earn your trust. It is the reverse with PFDJ. They are not earners because they don’t need your blessing and legitimacy. They don’t need to grow because they have everything. They are NOT at our mercy. We are. So, even if they both were equally bad (the opposition and the ruling), the power of harming and abusing is solely monopolized by the one in power. And don’t forget the opposition are victims themselves. What is an opposition that is not allowed to walk on the land among with their constituency? Your old comrades who were fighting for independence under ELF have never been allowed to set their foot in the country they were fighting for. So, they are all victims. But I want to use this opportunity to ask you four broad questions just for clarity. They are all “yes or no” answer questions by design. Even if your answer is a bit of both, please answer the one that weighs more in value compared to the other. But it is important I get your answer in “yes” or “no”:
          1) The devil you know is running the country like a private company characterized with frequent dark deals. Do you support them on the way they are generally running the national affairs? Yes or No?
          2) The devil you know detained people whose faces and names you remember incommunicado for years. Do you support their action to disappear people with out a charge? Yes or no?
          3) The devil you know runs undeclared macro economy literally non-existent without a private sector, without incoming FDI, without known budgets and fiscal disclosures, parliament discourse etc. Do you support them on their macro policies and practices? yes or no?
          4) The devil you know has militarized and securtized all Eritrean human and non-human resources and has taken us to so many wars in the short time span of independence, making Eritrea end up being isolated and pariah. Do you support them on the manner and principles they run their external relations? yes or no?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            Our brother Semere T., let alone to answer these basic questions pertinent to the behavior of the regime, he could not even answer to the questions posed to him, regarding the wild accusations he made against some forumers. He is only good at blackmailing.

            Regards

          • Hayat Adem

            Yes Emma,
            But what is he up to? What is the end game for him?
            Does he really think Pfdj are good or he is them? My questions are to help me determine one way.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Yes Hayat,

            What I know from his comment is (a) He support the endless NS, what the young generation, who became the victim of that project, call it modern slavery.
            (b) He oppose the COI report on the human right abuse in Eritrea (c) He support the foreign policy of the regime that isolate our nation (d) He support the domestic policy of the regime that control the entire life of the population.

            As to the characterization to the stated position, it is every ones take.I wil leave it as that.

            Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            ክቡር ብጻይ

            ክቡር ብጻይና ብርሃነ ሃይለ መንግስተ ሰማያት የዋርሶ እንተዘኪርካዮ ካድር ብርጌድ 77 ‘ዩ ዝነበረ :: ኣሕፍሮም ተወልደ ውን ኣብ ‘ታ ብርጌድ ኣብ ሓንቲ ቦጠለኒ ካድር እዩ ዝነበረ :: ካድር ጸጋይ ክፍለ ‘ውን ካድር ናይ ታ 3ይቲ ቦጠለኒ :: እዞም ሰለስተ ካድራት ደረጃ ትምህርቶም ክብ ዝበለ ልዙብ ባህሪ ዝነበሮም እኳ እንተነበሩ ነቲ ኩልና እንኣምነሉ መትከል ኣብ ምትግባር ዘጋጥሞም ዝነበረ መሰንኽላት ግን ፍሉይ ክእለትን ልቦናን ዘድልዮ እዩ ዝነበረ :: ንምሕጻሩ ኩሎም ነቲ ትዕግስቶም ክውድኡ እየ ተዓዚበ :: ካድር ጸጋይ ንፍጹም መስዋእቲ ወሲኑ – “ገድሊ ኤርትራ ኣዝዩ ብርቱዕ ቃልሲ ዘድልዩ ነዊሕን ጽንኩርን ብምዃኑ ብኣነ ክጸንሕ ዝእለ ዘይኮነስ ብኣነ ተሰዊአ ነቲ መትከለይ ብደም ኣጠጢዐ ሓላፍነትይ ተዋጺአ ንስኻትኩም መንእሰያት ድማ ሕድሪ ኮይንኩም ክትቅጽልዎ – ልቃሕ ክኾነኩም እዩ ” ድማ በለኒ : : ኣብ ቅድሚ ዓይነይ ኣብ ‘ታ ነዋሕ ታባ ነቲ ፍጹም ክነንሳሕብ ምዃና እናኣምነሉ ጹዕጽዕ ህዝባዊ ግንባርን ወያኔን ኩሉ ኣቅምታተን ሒዘን ዘመጻሉ ኩናት ብዘይ ቁሩብ ስግኣት ነቲ እስትራቴጅ ንምቅያር ሓቂኑ ብዘደንቅ ኣገባብ ይዋጋእ ነበረ :: ጥይት ጅም3 ድማ ኣብ ርእሱ ኣትያ ብንቁርቁር ኣቢላቶ :: ኣነ ሓኪም ብምንባረይ ደም ደው ከብል ዘይገበርኩዎ ፈተን ኣይነበረን : ደም ጥራይ ዘይኮነ ግን ሓንጎሉ ውን ፈሰሰ – ግዓረ ድማ :- ኣንበሳ ኣብ ቅድሚ ዓይነይ እናገዓረ እንከሎ ድማ እየን ነቲ ታባ ክቆጻጸራ ዝጀመራ :: ከይተሰውአ ክገድፎ ስለ ዘይነበረኒ ቁርብ ዝንግዕ በልኩን ብርግጽ ድማ ዓረፈ ::

            ኣሕፈሮም ተወልደ ጀብሃ ድሕሪ ሕጂ ከም ውድብ ክትቅጽል ኣይትኽእልን እያ ስለ’ዚ ድማ ከም ክፋል ናይ ጀብሃ ምስ ‘ቲ ዝሓየለ ሃገራዊ ሓይሊ ተጸንቢርና ክንቅጽል ዝሓሸ እዩ ዝብል መርገጽ ወሰደ : ምስ’ቶም ብሚስጥር ምስ ህግሓኤ ርክብ ዝነበሮም ከኣ ጽቡቅ ርክብ ገበረ : ድሓር እሞ ኸኣ ንሕና ኣብ ኮሮኮንን ታህዳይን ንቀጻልነት ጀብሃ ክንቃለስ እንከለና ናብ ከሰላን ካርቱምን እናተመላለሰ ምስ መራሕቲ ሻዕብያ ነቲ ክፋል ናይ ጀብሃ ብኸመይ ምስ ሻዕብያ ይሕንፍጾ ኣብ ርክብ ከም ዘሎ ኢና ሰሚዕና ::

            ስውእ ብርሃነ ምናልባት ካብ ‘ቶም ኣብ ጀብሃ ዝለዓለ ደረጃ ፍልጠት ዝነበሮ እዩ :: ኣብ ‘ታ ሕሞት ታህዳይ ግን ኣብ ኣዝዩ ዘይግመት መርገጽ እዩ ረጊጹ ዝነበረ :: ብርግጽ ኣነ ዝፈልጦ ሚስጥር ኣሎ -ድሕሪ ናይ ሳግም ምጽንባር ገና ዕግበት ከምዘይነበሮን ምስ ኣሕፈሮም ፍልልያት ከማዕብሉ ከምዝጀመሩን እዩ :: ኣነ ንመስዋእቱ ሕሉፍ ጭንቀትን ረብሻን ዓቢ ግደ ነይርዎ እየ ዝብል : ግን ከኣ ንሱ ብህይወት እንተዝህሉ ብዙሕ ዝቅየሩ ነገራት ነይሮም እዮም :: ኣብ 1982 ነዚ ዝምልከት ኣነ ምስኡ ኣብ ከሰላ ነዊሕ ኣዕሊለ እየ ::

            እዚ ገድሊ ኣዝዩ ጽንኩር እዩ ዝነበረ :: ናይ ብዓል ሰመረ ምድንጋር ብዘይ ምኽንያት ኣይነበረን :: ውድቀት ስመረ ንዓና ይምልከተና እዩ :: መትከላትና ዳግማይ ክረኣይዎን ስውኣትና ዘኪሩ ዳግማይ ኣብ መስመር ክምለስን ንጽዓት :: እታ ዝሰሓተቶ ጥይት ካልእ ብጻዩ ከምዝወደቀላ ነዘክሮ :: ፍሽለት ብጾትና ፍሽለትና እዩ :: የኽብረካ እየ ‘ሞ ስምዒታተይ ክገልጽ ስኽፍ ኣይብለንን እዩ – እቲ ባህሊ ካብ ከማኻ ዝኣመሰሉ ወርጃታት ዝቀሰምናዮ እዮ ‘ሞ ከምትርደ ኣኒ ርግጸኛ እየ ::

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ከኾባይ:

            ብርሃነ ሃይለን: ጸጋይ ክፍለን: ናይ ቀረባ ብጾተይን የዕሩኽተይን እዮም ነሮም:: ንጸጋይ: እታ:

            ዘሊሎም: ዘሊሎም – ዘሊሎም ናብ መሬት
            ጉቦ በሊዖም – ኣጥፊኦማ ‘ባ መሬት
            ዓድኻ ‘ዶ ‘ሽየጥ – እዋይ ስኣንፍልጠት……

            ትብል ንሱ ዝደረሳን ዝኣለያን ድራማ: ትራኣየሉ ዝነበረ ጊዜ እየ ናይ መጨረሻ ግዜ ርእየዮ:: ምስ ብርሃነ ሃይለ ግን: ብዙሕ ግዜ ኣይኮነን እምበር: ኣብ ሱዳንውን ተራኺብና ነርና::

            ስለዚ: ኮኾብ ሓወይ – ስዉኣትሲ: ዝቐበርኩዎም አይወሓዱን: ንዘልኣለም ውን አይርስዖምን ‘የ ኣይትሰከፍ::

            ሕጂ ጉዳይ ስዉኣት ገዲፍና: ጉዳይ ፖለትካዊ ክትዓትናን: ፖለቲካዊ ፍልልያትናን ተገበርና ይሓይሽ ‘መስለኒ::

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • Kokhob Selam

            ክቡር ሓው ሰመረ ተስፋይ

            ኣይፍል ድኣ ካን ዶ ትም ኢለ እየ ሕጂ ኣጀው ጀው ዝብል ዘለኹ ! እዞም ብጾት ኮ ሓደ ብሕማም ተሰዊኡ ገና ውን ዘይተረጋገጸ ምኽን ያት ዘቅርቡ ኣለው : እቲ ሓደ ኣብ ኩናት ተሰዊኡ እቲ ሳልሳይ ድማ ኣብ ውሽጢ ህግደፍ ኣሎ : :

            እቲ ዕላል ዝትንክፍን ተሃዋስን ክኸውን ነቶም ብቀረባ እትፈልጦም ክትዝክር ጥራይ ኣይኮነን – መስዋእቶም ኣብ ርእሰይ ከምዘሎ ክነግረካ እየ ኣቅሪበዮ :: እሞ ድኣ ጸጋይ ክፍለ ዘስርሓኒ ተዋስኦ ዶ ከዕልለካ ? ንግዚኡ ኣብ ውሽጣ ዝነበረ ግጥሚ ንሓደ ወል ሽዑ ማንጆስ ዝነበረ ኣዝዩ ኣጽኒዕዋ ስለ ዝነበረ ተወኪሰዮ ፫ ገዛ ጥራይ እነሆ ይጽሕፋ :: ኣብ ተሌፎን ድማ ሪኮርድ ክገብሮ ኣፍቂደዮ ከም መዝገብ ኣስፊረያ ኣለኹ :: እታ ግጥሚ ኣነ ኳ እንተጽሓፍክዋ ጽቡቅ ክዝክራ ግን ተሸጊረ ነይረ ::

            ሰውራ ሰውራ ክብሉ ቃልሲ ዶ ፈሊጠ :-
            ይመስለኒ ነይሩ ጉዕዞ ተሓንጊጠ :-
            ኩናት ዲዕ ዝበለ ኣብኡ ዘፍለጠ :-
            ዝስዋእ ክስዋእ ክነብር ዘምለጠ ::

            እምበር ሰውራ ድኣ ዓቢ እንድዩ ሚስጥራ :-
            ገታር እወ ደረቕ ምስ በሊሕ ኣጽፋራ :-
            ቆርበትካ ትስሕብ ፋሕጢራ ፈሓጢራ :-
            ኣይከኣልኩን ኣነስ እምብዛ መሪራ ::

            ግን እዚ ኩሉ ምረት እዚ ኩሉ ስቃይ :-
            ኩሉ ምስተኻእለ ምህካይ ምስልካይ :-
            መዓስ ድሕር ሃልዩ ካብ መስርዕ ብጻየይ :-
            ምስ ኩሉ ርስሓታ ሰውራ እንድያ ኣደይ ::

            ድሕሪኡ ንዘሎ ከም ሚስጥር ንሕጂ ንሕለፎ : – እሞ ስውእ ጸጋይ ዕላምኡ ተሃሪሙ ዶ ? ስውእ ጸጋይ ብጥይት ወያኔን መሪሕነት ህግሓኤ እዩ ኣብ ቅድመይ ወዲቑ – እቲ ሽዑ ዝመርሕ ዝነበረ መሪሕነት ክመርሓኒ ኣነ ዘፍቅድ ዶ ይመስለካ ? እታ ሽዑ ነዚ ጀግና ብጻየይ ዝቀተለት ጥይት ወያኔ ረሲዐ ተጋጊና ከይበሉ ዝገድፎም ዶ ይመስለካ? ብዝኾነ ተኣምር መሪሕነት ህግሓኤ ተጋጊና ከይበሉ ሓንቲ መዓልቲ ኳ ሰላም ክሓድሩ ኣይክእሉን እዮም :: መትከለይ እምበኣር መትከል ጀግና ጸጋይ ክፍለ እዩ :: ኩሉ ሓቅታት ከይተቀልዐ ድማ ድቃስ ኣይክወስደንን እዩ:: እዚ ቂም መሓዝ ኣይኮነን – እታ ነዚኦም ብጾትና ዘጥፈአት መሪሕነት ብርግጽ ንሰላምን ራህዋን ናጽነትን መሰልን ዘይተላዕለት ምዃና እንሆ ሕጂ ውን ይረአ ::

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            መርሐባ ብጻይ ኮኸባይ

            እቲ ዝተረኽካዮ ታሪኽ ብዛዕባ በጾታና ከምዘለዎ አብ ቦትኡኸሎ: እንታይደአ ንግዚኡ ብመድረኻዊ ቃልስና ተገዚእናን ተጠሚርናን: ብአላገስቲ ክትዕ ጅሆ ከይተተሐዝና ክንምርሽ ይሐይሽ በሀሊ እየ:; ናይ ሐውና ስመረ እኳ ዘስደምም እዩ ከምዚኢሉ ምትራፉ:: ከምዚ ዝሪኦ ዘለኹ ናብ መትከሉ ዝምለስ አይመስልን::

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hayat

            I dont get it! What is this (your) questioner suppose to mean?

            If I give the PFDJ regime F F F F + F for the color of their eyes, does that mean the Eritrean opposition will get automatically an “A” in every category? How so?

            If the PFDJ regime is EVIL does that make all the Eritrean oppositions ANGELS? What a nonsense!

            The Eritrean opposition are good only when they are good, they are competent only when they are competent, and they are desirable only when they earn the respect of the Eritrean peoples. And to reach that goal, they have a long, long, long….. way to go.

            Hayat, thank you for engaging with civility.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Kokhob Selam

            Sir,
            can I come here as your guest!
            if you give FFFF +F that never mean you gave “A” to opposition. you should give the mark as per our principle not comparing the two — I think..

          • Hayat Adem

            SemereT,
            But could you answer those simple questions by saying yes, no?
            Hint: not answering them is not any safer than answering them.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hayat Adem Mohammed Osman Abdelwafiq

            You’re not going to take ግዜ የብለይን ሕጂ for an answer, are you?

            How about ንእሰያስ ኣፈወርቂ ደዊለሉ: መልሲ ስጋብ ዝህበኒ ይጽበ ስለዘለዅ please, please, please bear with me

            But seriously: ሎሚ ጅሞዓ እያ: ሕካያ ተነጊርክኒ I swear I will answer all questions to your satisfaction. Just bear with me I’m busy now. Word.

            The Hikaya: preferably in Tigrigna or English, not good at it, but I can also try Amharic.

            Semere Tesfai

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Peace,

    ሓያል ቅነ ድኣ ‘በሃል ወደይ ! ኣታ ሰብኣይ ጉዳያት እናበርተዑኻ ከይዶም – ኣብ ጸበባ ትኣቱ ኣለኻ :: ጸላኢና ከም ህግደፍ ተጻቢቡ ይሕደር :: ንዓ ዓርኩ ሓዲሽ ንጹርን መርገጽ ሒዝካ ቅረብ : ሃየ ይጽበየካ ኣለኹ :: and here we will know if you were just asking and opposing to learn or you mean it. come please. Some are not around as they have been cornered.. I have asked them the same to correct..

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Berhe Y,

    If you notice from allover my posts I never support the idea of reform or something similar solutions not only now since I knew EPLF leadership in general. In fact if it was in my hand you could have seen such group at all . My comrades are witness, I was always asking ELF leadership not to trust any world from EPLF leadership and to go for action -People use to misunderstand me on this one- I really don’t know how I found out that but everything we face on those 25 years were always in my mind in advance although not exactly. This is to assure you that I am not looking for reform.

    But today is different, PFDJ will have to go and they know they have lost the game. The only good thing for them is to hand over power. they will not get chance of fighting like Gaddafi did or Sedam did. in fact a bit push from inside will end the job and that is why they are running here and there to fine way.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Awate,
    Let’s See Peace’s Style of Debate,
    Usually peace brings diversionary issues to this discussion apparently to dilute serious hits on PFDJ. His favorite subject is always TPLF. I wouldn’t say discussing TPLF in an Eritrean website in not a fair game. But the way he brings it is to drag, destruct or spoil the discussion. Hope has already adopted this kind of style. Peace also jumps to attack people who don’t agree with his views. He flags whatever clouding accusation he has in his mind. Look at how he is fixed with Welkyte thing to divert the entire discussion away from the main topic and applies his shoot-to-kill policy if people dared to reject or challenge his points. I will give you few examples from his exchanges under this article related to Welqyte issue.

    Horizon was responding to the issue that the issue can be easily handled by the inhabitants and there is no way to elevate it to conflict between the Amhara and the Tigray. Then, Peace came charging like a Rhino to say this: “I am sure if the question were about Assab, your answer would be totally different, not just an opinion … Few days ago, you tried with great confidence to lecture us about how Assab is a contested port and perhaps belongs to Ethiopa.” If you were in peace’s place, how do you relate both issues? And why would you say that Horizon because he said what he said?

    On this Welqyte thing, peace tried to engage Emma. Emma was, questioning some assertions forwarded by Peace, and asking for evidence and historical facts on the matter. Then Rahwa weighed in with a testimony of a man that Emma found it believable and rested his case. Imagine, there is nothing we know about this issue definitively. But Peace is acting as if he has studied and administered the area. When Emma concluded, that what he heard was good enough for the Welqyte controversy and wanted to move on, Peace came charging like bull and said this: “Really! You believe Rahwa, the TPLF mouth piece, more than the Welkaitans themselves. Well, ኩቡር ኢማ please do not get irritated when people describe you as a Greater Tigray sympathizer. You keep proving yourself time and time again.” Now, if you were Peace, why would you call Emma Tigray symphatizer because he said this? Why would call Rhawa a TPLF mouthpiece while she never said anything to that effect except providing a link which he has done it himself many times? Nobody accused him as a PFDJ mouth piece. Or if we have to judge people based on what they say about Welqyte, nobody told him he is the mouth piece of Ginbot7.

    • iSem

      Hi Hayat:
      I have never debated PEACE but I read him when he debates others here. Starting from his nick, like any PFDJ supporter he is misleading: they like good sounding names like PFDJ, PEACE, Tesfanews ect, but thy names does leads not.
      Their singular focus on TPLF, an organization that has left their senior organization to dust to transform from a rebel centeric to a state centeric organization is killing them inside, because their temaharo eyom nerom kissab shiwa is not holding water. So they obsess with TPLF, an organization that has transformed itself or is trying hard to transform itself by electing a civilian PM, by appointing a civilian FM and made a succession planning part of its goals to replace all former freedom fighters by some date.
      And look what Peaces organization has accomplished, their biggest accomplishment is their cruelty and for that they are accused of crimes against humanity,like a thug whose success is measured by how much pain he inflicts on this victims, they have out-shinned all former thugs before them, all the thugs like the Italians, HS and MH that lorded over Eritrea before. That is their singular accomplishment but humanity has finally, although with snails speed has spoken against them and in favor of our people, so their success unlike in the pantheons of thugs like them will not rewarded with an award, but has been intimated to them that they will pay for it and I am confident that you, Emma, Sal, SGJ, BY KS and the many TRUTH TELLERS in this forum are young enough to witness at least some of the PFDJ thugs facing justice in AU, ICC or even Eritrea when finally the demons they are serving turn against them. I am sure of that. Peace maybe the nick this thug has chosen but he is tormned soul and not at Peace with himself, all of them, Nitricc, dawit, Gheteb are in tormoil with their inner self, if they are not in tormoil, they are phsycopaths as Sal once said, only phycopath would not feel the suffering of others

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayat,

      Needless to say this forum was united and peaceful before you arrived as YG’s surrogate, and now that you are too exhausted to stay the course, you choose to pretend as unity of Eritreans your priority. Please go back and read your over a thousand of comments you will find your true colors. Thankfully since you made yourself irrelevant, I have nothing to worry about what you said about me.

      Much love
      Peace!

      • tes

        Dear Peace!,

        Were you sympathetic enough in the Eritrean case I wouldn’t worry about what you really advocate for. But yours is exceptionally talented to a degree that you camouflaged yourself as Justice seeker when you are not. To say it in short you are a liable to the justice seeking camp.

        As for Hayat Adem, I found here more rational and logical though she is mainly moved by FEAR of the known dilemma. And here she is on the right diagnostic line to figure who are.

        tes

        • Peace!

          Dearest tes,

          I am proud of my stand that I have started opposing this regime years back perhaps while you were enjoying its money and food. And don’t worry I do not belong to the justice seekers camp that disrespects our history and belittle our brave tegadelti. I am not with you buddy find your own type:)

          Peace!

        • Nitricc

          Hi Tes, just you know for the following remarks of yours, you are officially lost your credibility.
          ” As for Hayat Adem, I found here more rational and logical though she is mainly moved by FEAR of the known dilemma. And here she is on the right diagnostic line to figure who are.”
          now, my man, go get drunk and you are free what ever you want to say. last advice, have some self respect. what a loser. what is wrong with you? oh, stay out of the bottles!

          • tes

            Dear Nitricc,

            I thought that there was no credit left, sorry to disappoint you again. Saying that I am lucky to lose (if any) any credit left. I don’t want it. I don’t want a butcher to give me any credit.

            As for Hayat, except in one I am always in agreement with here. I said it before and I am repeating it now.

            And with you Nitricc, I disagree with you in everything(100%). In addition, I have never given you any credit at all. For me you are a killer.

            Damn to exchange with you but no option except tackling you.

            Gosh!

            tes

  • Peace!

    Dear All,

    I just went over through one of my morning routine : checking headlines, and bbc world has this one:

    ” I toppled Sadam’s Statue, now I want him Back”

    This is obviously about the risk of seeking a regime change without having a serious plan to stabilize and govern a country in the aftermath. The helpless dying Iraqi people left with nothing as the Malikis, Challabis, kalabis are no where to be found to save their people whom they once promised democratic and prosperous after the fall of the brutal dictator Sadam. The point here is as concerned Eritrean, DO WE HAVE A PLAN?

    Peace!

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Peace,
      Almost all opposition have plans. the Jeneva seems bringing them to one plan. Here let me assure you our case is totally different from Iraq. No bombs will fall over Asmara from other nations – you know that. again if you think we have to talk about plan join the movement and go ahead in being the people who are working united to put transnational group. by the way planing to plan will require the transitional government who will come with his papers and documents agreed to plan – I think.

      Peace, I am afraid the propaganda is right in the street where you live. Ha ha just kidding bro.

      • Peace!

        Ahlen habibna,

        Realistically speaking that’s the concern of almost every Eritrean not just me. If PFDJ is treating such thing as a propaganda, I am afraid it is working.

        Eid MubarK
        Peace!

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Peace,
          እከይ ተግባራት ህግደፍ ኣንጭዋ ኣይትበትኮ እያ :: why do you think they are around for such long time. they Knew how to play dirty games. When PFDJ leave the stage you will be wondering to read books and to see films about their method of exploiting internal and external situations, the weakness of individuals and parties etc. they are great to use your tendencies your short comings. leave alone an ordinary man even the most sophisticated men and women with highly respected position and knowledge have been confused or cheated at least once if not all their life. so take care you might be already cheated.

    • Saleh Johar

      Peace,

      You have not stated it, but your comment implies this: don’t attempt to topple Isaias less you face the fate of the Iraqis who toppled Saddam.

      I don’t know who the “We” is but many are doing what they do simply because it is the right thing to do. Parties with political platforms certainly have planes–google it and it is there, roadmap, transition, charters, and a lot of other plans. You might not agree with it but then nothing is agreed upon by 100% of the people.

      I am responding because you are addressing your question to “dear all”. I do not see myself a superman who should do everything, I just do my share and leave the rest to those who are set to do just that. Political planning is better left to political parties, if you do not agree with the over a dozen parties, you can always form your own and put all the post-Isaias plans to your heart’s content. But don’t harass the opposition by implying no one has a plan. They do. Some even have wild plans that I consider betrayal. There are a lot of plans my dear, if you do not know about nthem google it, or contact members of the opposition parties.

      The Saddam example is very disappointing though you might think it is very insightful.

      • Nitricc

        Hey SJ, you said “Parties with political platforms certainly have planes–google it and it is there, roadmap, transition, charters, and a lot of other plans” well, is not what the point is? It is not like a personal plan where you can keep it to yourself or share it selectively. This is notional and millions of people have the right to know to debate, argue, reject and accept. Personally, I have not seen, read or comment on any so-called opposition’s plan. The truth is the toothless oppositions are wiling whatever worthless plan they have to share with the Ethiopian government than of their own people. There is a good reason why there no worthy oppositions despite the glaring shortcomings of the government of Eritrea. Why is it so hard for any opposition to come out and present their plan to the people? You can spin it all you want but the real reason is, there is no plan! The one plan known to every Eritrean is, by hook or crock destroy Issias. And to may sensible people, this is not a plan, rather a wish to pay a revenge.

        • iSem

          Nitricc:
          Can you prove that the opposition want to only destroy IA and has no other higher goals. Prove it.
          For example, I have proved, Hayat proved that your IQ is the same size of your shoes and you admitted it, you did not oppose it, actually you bragged about it.
          There is no one opposition, they are diverse in politics, in number and in ethnicity.
          Also I proved that you are enslaved, you work for a military and a country that you do not think highly of, but you cannot leave as you are trapped, So prove it, the I have not seen a plan is not an argument.
          The plans are available in their platforms. How convenient and retarded is it for you not to have asked the transparency from PFDJ and are asking for a transparency of plans that are already public

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam iSem

            “Can you prove that the opposition want to only destroy IA and has no other higher goals. Prove it.”

            Yes, I can prove it; if that is what you wanted. And this are the Eritrean opposition and their non-existent National “HIGHER GOALS” for tomorrow’s Eritrea: ገለ: ካብ ዒላበርዕድ ንላዕሊ ዘይድይብ – ገለ ድማ: ካብ ዒላበርዕድ ንታሕቲ ዘይወርድ ፖለቲካ ተቓውሞ::

            A. – The Unionists in three styles – take your pick: (a) Federal arrangement style – 1950’s type (b) United Eritrea under mama Ethiopia type – Derg/Hailesellasie style (c) ethnically and regionally fractured Eritrea – an Ethiopian satellite that revolve around Ethiopia’s orbit – Woyane style.

            The disciples for this mission: Hayat Adem, Horizon, Kokhobay, Abi, Amanuel Hidrat, Semere Andom, YG, GY, Selam Kidane………

            B. – The Islamists and Jihadists: These organizations believe that the PFDJ government is an Ethnic Tigrigna government that serve the interest of ethnic Tigrignas only. Therefore, their plan calls for defeating the ethnic Tigrigna regime with a political campaign – weed-out the ethnic fascists/Nazis, Koboro Junkies, PFDJ clan, Nehna-Nsu – Nsu-Nehna crowd – send their Capo and his lieutenants to the ICC, defeat, dismantle and outlaw their organization…… Then reverse the Tigrinanization of Eritrea, kick-out the Ethnic fascists from Eritrean “Muslim Lands” to their rocky mountains, bring Muslim refugees from Sudan and resettle them in their ancestral land. After the Eritrean Lowlanders and their ancestral lands are liberated, then liberate the Kebessa Lowlanders (Muslims) to practice their faith and thei culture freely – The Eritrean Covenant and Ali Salim style.

            C. – The Regionalists: These are organizations who believe their region is sidelined in the current PFDJ power configuration. They Believe PFDJ is Karneshim/Hirgigo dominated government and they are in the business of opposition to empower their region – and in the name of their region to ascend themselves to the helm.

            D. – Ethnic organizations: these are ethnic minorities, MOST on the verge on extinction, with legitimate concerns. They want to erect walls between communities, (most) not with the intent to dominate and govern but as means of survival. And I truly believe, they need immediate attention and adequate protection to survive – which the PFDJ government is not doing enough, doing little, or doing none to address their concern.

            E. – The secessionists: These/this is/are organizations that don’t want to to be FULLY part of Eritrea – some want join Ethiopia, some who want special arrangement to remain with Eritrea, and some probably want to have an independent nation of their own.

            F. – Nationalist Opposition Organizations: This are organizations who run on a national platform, and try very hard to have a true representative government that look like Eritrea. But due to their lack of vision and coherent message, they are lost in the political wilderness, outmaneuvered and outsmarted by the PFDJ regime. Their biggest failure? Their plan to ride Ethiopian tanks to get to the helm, their silence on Ethiopian occupation of sovereign Eritrean lands, their support of Ethiopia to sanction Eritrea, their support of violence to remove the PFDJ regime, their support of the racist ICC court to bring justice in Eritrea…… These political positions and more drove them to irrelevance, in the Eritrean political discourse.

            As you can see, the Eritrean opposition political formulas are parallel political formulas with no intersection and common coordinates in sight – with just PFDJ HAS TO GO MANTRA. If you (iSem) want to call that a “HIGHER GOAL/OBJECTIVE”, that’s fine; but the Eritrean people are not buying your “higher goals”.

            And this is the cold truth: The Eritrean people have given-up on the Eritrean opposition, the Woyane dominated Addis regime has given-up on the opposition, and the opposition themselves have given-up on their political business.

            They are just waiting for some miracle from Washington, Addis, Khartoum, Yemen, Djibouti, Afghanistan….. somehow, someone, from somewhere, to land them in Asmara. And regrettably, I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi SemereT,
            You call that a proof?
            And where do you get the audacity to say things on behalf of the Eritrean people?

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hayat Adem

            1. – “You call that a proof?”

            I do. I do believe that is the Eritrean opposition reality.

            2. – “And where do you get the audacity to say things on behalf of the Eritrean people?”

            When I speak, I speak for myself. I never said I speak on behalf of the Eritrean people.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hayat Adem

            Ah SemereT,
            You said: “And this is the cold truth: The Eritrean people have given-up on the Eritrean opposition”
            And exactly 45 minutes late, you said: “I never said I speak on behalf of the Eritrean people.”
            ———-
            How do you know the Eritrean people gave up on the opposition? You haven’t asked them. Your PFDJ never allowed the opposition to enter Eritrea and talk to their people. The most super weirdo logic I always hear from the PFDJ block is this: They fear, I mean fear like shivering, the opposition so much so that they don’t allow them to operate inside the country and yet they come out and say that the people gave up on the opposition.
            ———-
            But, SemereT, it is easy to know that the Eritrean people gave up on PFDJ long ago. You can understand that from the Geneva demonstration; you can know that from the exodus; you can know that from the dwindling support the PFDJ used to enjoy among the diaspora…

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hyat

            1. – “How do you know the Eritrean people gave up on the opposition?”

            Simple – forget inside Eritrea, even In The Land of The Free and The Home of The Brave – I mean far, far, far, far……. away from the PFDJ land, there is no single opposition organization, that can travel from town to town, assemble a crowd of twenty Eritreans, and give a speech. Why? Because they don’t have a message that is suitable for a mixed crowd. ኩሉ ፖለቲካዊ መልእኽቶም: ገዛ ዓጺኻ: ልቺ ኣጥፊእካ: ምስ ናተይ ዝበልካዮም ሰባት ጥራሕ ኢኻ ክትዛረበሉ ትኽእል::

            Even those very few from the West, who travel to Ethiopia and Kenya for an “Important National Meeting” – in order for them to attend the meeting, somebody has to pay for their travel, food and lounge in advance. And this is for a national meeting, of a country and people who would die for free, to liberate their people and their country. How do you explain that? Of course you are going to blame PFDJ. Right?

            2. – “The most super weirdo logic I always hear from the PFDJ block is this: They fear, I mean fear like shivering, the opposition so much so that they don’t allow them to operate inside the country and yet they come out and say that the people gave up on the opposition.”

            Are you kidding me? Fear of what? If they can’t assemble a crowd of twenty people in a town of 5000 Eritreans half the world away from PFDJ, what is there to fear about? Why would the PFDJ regime have a shivering fear of the opposition, when they know full well, the opposition groups will kill each other, way before they reach them. Do you really believe the Unionists, the Islamists, the Jihadists, the regionalists, the ethnic warriors…… will share their spoil and live in piece?

            To tell you the truth, the PFDJ camp is not afraid of what the current opposition would do to them, they are scared to death, what the West and Woyane could do to them. The opposition are just Waterboys.

            3. – “SemereT, it is easy to know that the Eritrean people gave up on PFDJ long ago. You can understand that from the Geneva demonstration; you can know that from the exodus; you can know that from the dwindling support the PFDJ used to enjoy among the diaspora…”

            I admit, in Geneva, there were the Woyanes, the Unionists, the Islamists, the Jihadists, the ethnic organizations, the regionalists, the sellouts, the slaved mind, the Western hired folks, the revenge seekers……… by the thousands chanting “Isaias Must Go”. I get that. The question is, what common political thread did they had/have to bring positive change to the Eritrean people – except the usual PARALLEL POLITICAL FORMULAS that will never converge? None whatsoever.

            And that is the reason Eritreans are not rallying behind the opposition. But, no matter how remote that possibility might be, the very thought, by some freak miracle, the opposition getting to the helm is scaring the daylight out of Eritreans. That, you can take my word for it.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Thomas D

            Hi Semere T,

            Now, I come to understand what your problem is? You cannot sleep well because DIA has not slept since the Geneva June 23 victorious demonstration. I know you are lying when said you and your loverboy are more into the weyanes and USA threats than what is coming from the oppositions. Well, are you sure you too have slept well after the Geneva 23 outstanding demonstration of the youth. I understand, the death of Muammar Gedafi of Libya was by the youngsters of Libya and it was really bloody and scary death, imagine that!! Just a friendly advice, many attempts to divide and rule Eritreans have failed miserably and it got really old. You need to give up and update yourself on that. It has been tried until it is expired. Eritreans now see only one enemy and that is the regime your are married to.

          • iSem

            Hi Hayat and Thomas;
            Actually inadvertently Semere T spoke THE truth, but nothing about the opposition but about his beloved PFDJ.
            Thomas, you also figured him out now, Tegadali Semere does not believe the small ethnic groups to fight for their right and culture and right, he is for melting pot where everyone is Karneshimized and Hirgigozized, uniformity and luck of diversity makes society easy to represss

            Semere T, like Nitric you have alleged but not proved, nay you proved something and it is about Semere T

          • Thomas D

            Hi iSem,

            No one has made that clearer to us than the racist Semere Karneshim:) I like how you put it briefly, but precisely, thank you!! With people like this guy among us, poor Eritrea has a long way to go!!

          • Thomas D

            Hi Semere T,

            You are simply a sub-nationalist! I suggest you cleanup the dirt in your mind or it is going to eat you alive. So, you have divided Eritreans as above, where is your place on the above? I guess no where, you truly with the hergigo/Karneshim group then, right? What a wild sectarian you are!! I never new that you have gone that deep with your hatred! Today, I learned an ugly lessen from yourself, thank you!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Tegadalay Semere,

            Are you sure the names you listed as cyber deciples are in the same catagory? Do they advocate for the same things? I thought you are an honest person who happen to hold different view from me , on the discourse of Eritrean politics on how our country progress and embrace its rainbow with justice and equitable political and economic sharing. Do you?

            regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat

            1. – “Are you sure the names you listed as cyber deciples are in the same catagory?” “Do you really put us Ethiopians and the Eritreans in the same basket?”

            I don’t know Aman. I don’t really know anymore. I’m just frustrated by the whole opposition political business like everybody else – the support for ICC, the flirting with Ethiopia, the labeling of slavery for National Construction and National Service, the invitation of Ethiopian boots to solve Eritrean problems, the silence towards the illegal occupation of sovereign Eritrean territories……

            Aman: like you and Kohobay, I’m ELF veteran. And based on our common background, one would think, you Kokhobay and I, would have similar opinion on most issues. But, our opinions couldn’t be any farther from each other. And I don’t have any rational explanation as to why our opinions drifted so far away from each other. Do you? And one more question:

            Time and again, when you attack the opinion of Nitricc, Ted, Hope, Meron, PEACE, Dawit, Mahmud Salah, …….. (which I believe are genuine Eritrean Nationalists) and consistently, when you, iSem and Kokhobay side with Hayat Adem, Horizon, Abi, Kaddis, Kim Hana, Fanti Ghana….. when we discuss Eritrean issues – how am I wrong, if I lumped you, with the same people whom you agree-with every single time? And you know, they are all declared Ethiopians (spare Hayat Adem) who are here day-in and day-out for one simple reason: to fight for the best interest Ethiopia. Yes, to justify Ethiopian aggression, to justify Ethiopian occupation of sovereign Eritrean territories, to justify Eritrean sanction and isolation, to trash our revolutionary journey (Ghedli) and the young men and women who died to make our dream possible, to regret our independence……

            Aman, yes, it pains me to lump you Kokhobay and iSem with the Hayat crowd. But sorry, I just don’t know how to categorize you guys with any other group – but with them. Again, sorry.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Semere,
            How can that be? I use to ask when comes between you and me..how? that question was disturbing me even very much after remembering who semere is. months back we had some views exchange here with you and a friend call me after reading our views here. He remind me who you are, I surprised and wondered what wrong has gone with you. you weren’t even an ordinary fighter who fights only for national land freedom. You were among those who were conscious who think what after separation of land.

            Thaks God I know now your problem ..but still that is not supposed to be a problem there is a saying in Arabic غلطة الشاطر بعشرة – ( when the cleaver makes mistake it is by ten). Relax may friend..I am sure we are not going to lose each other the only thing I need from you is to 1.remember once again you have been hero and intelligent and you will get your line once again. just wait for me.
            2. Remeber you have been more responsible patient who manage to handle even the feudal behavior of some leaders.
            3. you have been advancing much with moral to see democratic nation

            I will somehow come back to you after you completely remember our Semere.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Kokhobay

            “ቐልጣ ኣልሻጥር ብዓሸራ”

            I doubt the “clever” part would fit my small size skull, but for sure the ten-fold mistake would.

            Anyway, thank you for the kind words, and thank you for adding one more Arabic proverb of wisdom, to my rusted mini-size memory chip.

            ከኾባይ: ኣብ ዓድና ‘ታይ ይብሉ መስለካ – ‘ኣይኮነንዶ የሕዋት ሸግር መካፍልቲ: ጓል-ሕድርትና ‘ውን ‘ተኾነ: “መታዓብይቲ ‘ንድዩ” ኢላ ንመታዓብይታ ኣይትጭክንን ‘ያ ይበሃል::

            ንሕና ድማ ዋላ ተተነሃሃርና – የሕዋት: መታዓብይትን ሽግር መካፍልትን ብምዃንና: ጡብ ኣዴና ‘ንዳኣሉ ዝዓርቀና::

            ደሓር ድማ – ኩልና: ካብ ርሑቕ ስደት: ንስለ ጽቡቕ ኤርትራ ‘ንዳኣልና::

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam semere Tesfay,

            I will only defend myself as others could defend better themselves than I do for them. So please answer the following question with clarity and supporting document?

            (a) where did get hear me or read me regreting about our independence?

            (b) where did you read me or hear me justfying Ethiopian occupation yo our territor?

            (c) Where did you read me or hear me trashing our revolution or our Ghedli* and the sucrifice of my comrades in arm for the sole creation the Nation of Eritrea?
            (d) Where did you read me or hear me to advocate the reunion of Eritrea and Ethiopia?

            These are real allegation that demand real answer with substantiation. The rest are political argument between a supporter of the regime and an opposer of the regime. I could live with them, because they are my principles and I stood my ground on them. Second opposing the opinions of the names you mentioned, does it make me against Eritrea?

            * Read my articles (a) The peril of ignoring the success of ghedli three parts (part-I, II, III) in response of YG at awate.com (b) “The Evolvement of Eritrean Nationalism and the nationhood of Eritrea

          • iSem

            Hi Semere:
            First, your line of when iSem and you consistently side with Hayat and Horizon is dishonest
            And even if that was tru, which one is more disturbing: when the said ppl sided with the so called Ethiopians or when you deny the slavery, murder, rape and torture of Eritreans, when they told you those crimes happened to them. Also which one is disturbing siding with Hayat… or siding with the candidates of ICC? nmAtebka, I know you have one:-)
            Also you can add, which one more disturbing siding calling the slavery project that snatches underage kids from their homes or agreeing sometimes with Hayat.
            It is sad to see freedom fighters accused of crimes against humanity and even sadder to see freedom fighter cheering the candidates to ICC

          • Dear Semere Tesfai,

            Fortunately, awate.com is not the place where you hear only the echo of your voice, or is the place where similar-minded people with you come and read from the same page from the book written by DIA and the PFDJ. It is a place where minds clash, to find a way to create peace between the two people, who are destined to live side by side forever. The truth, not the lie-truth, but the truth-truth will be told, and this should not have frustrated you.

            As much as you are concerned, there is only one way for Eritrea, i.e. your way, which up to now has taken Eritrea in the wrong direction, and you have failed to see the facts on the ground. Whoever is not with you is against you, being said to educated people, who are equally stakeholders with any ultra-nationalist Eritrean, shows that you have reached the stage where you believe that the aim justifies the means, and using any possible weapon, right or wrong, to fight those whom you think are enemies, is allowed.

            If there is anybody who has to change, it is you and not the Eritreans you mentioned. Sorry to say that you have not moved enough to the present century. As an outsider, I have read a lot of the comments of those Eritreans, whom you have painted with black colors, and I tell you, they are very conscious, responsible and true patriotic Eritreans, unlike those who have bestowed upon themselves, by themselves, the title of Eritrean patriotism, while at the same time they destroy the people with their actions. While your group is fighting to save only the past, by demanding an unlimited sacrifice, more than the Eritrean people could bear, the Eritreans you have demonized are fighting to save the past, the present and the future of Eritrea.

            About us Ethiopians; there is nothing you can do. The free world of awate.com can accommodate even Ethiopians, those whom you call the enemy. Awate.com is ahead of the times.

          • Yoty Topy

            Hi Semere,
            It’s been 16 years since the conclusion of the war and you still are talking about the supposedly ‘injustice’ that’s been imposed on Eritrea by the world. Since then , children that have been conceived have come out of age. Thousands have left the country and the nation has since institutionalized modern day state sponsored slavery . And like a broken old record with its niddle stuck in a groove you continue to harp on the same issue day in and day out.

            The ubiquitously quoted Einstein ‘s definition of Insanity states that: INSANITY is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

            So, I ask you , if the same accusations,moaning and crying fail to push Ethiopia to cede an inch of territory , say in the next 15 years, what is your game plan ? I mean , it cannot be the same thing . Even, you have to realize that.

            The Japaneese had more bones to pick with the Americans after the end of WWII for raising two of their cities to the floor with hydrogen bombs even though they (Americans) knew that the Japaneese were ready to surrender, but they didn’t not waist their post war years salking about the injsutice that had befallen on them. But instead , they picked and dust up themselves and went on straight to work to rehabilitate their nation . What did you do? Instead of learning from the mistakes learnt, you went on a tirade of conspiracy theories accusing the rest of the world set out to get you.
            You cannot continue to do the same thing over and over again.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Tom,
            It was nuclear or átomic bomb, not a hydrogen one. The latter was first came to exist by the Soviets on Aug. 2, 1953.

        • Thomas D

          Nitricc,

          I cannot believe you still are using the meaningless “toothless opposition” word/adjective? I wish you come here with your real name and your real picture. We could have dealt with you when we free Eritrea. You call Eritrean oppositions toothless when you cannot even show your face to them. Many what a funny and wild guy you are!!

        • Girmay

          Nitricc

          What scares me is not that they don’t have a plan because some of them have a plan, but their plan sucks. Their plans are as manny as their number, and most of almost imposible to reconcile. Some are Islamists, some regionalists, some ethnic federalists ala Woayane style and some unionist and many others in between. It suffice to look at the chaotic umberelas they formed before to understand what kind of havoc they can bring to the country. They can’t even conduct one congress with out chaos and split, and hardly last a year. Add to the mix pro PFDJits role and Imagine the end result of the aftermath of PFDJ. It sends a shivering fear down of my spines when I try to imagine that.

          Nitricc bro, like you I was a hardcore Shaebian, but I’m not sure anymore. The PFDJ has failed us big time and I feel betrayed. Woyane and the toothless opposition have no power, so our failure squarely lies on our weakness. The worst of all, I don’t see any sign of change in the future that can give me some hop. Thus, I am getting hopeless from time to time and I feel sad for my people and country.

          • tes

            Dear Girmay,

            I feel sorry for you are got disappointed at shabia. However this is a sign of transformation from zone of killers to justice. Just watch out your inner energy.

            As for the opposition, if they are divided it is because of PFDJ divide and rule policy. Do not get disappointed at it. The best thing you can do is to demand justice. This is the demand of the people before and now.

            tes

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Girmay,
            you are dong fine. We human beings go through recovery when coming out of confusion of some sort. that is just normal but don’t give up the light is some miles far to reach and you will get it.

      • Peace!

        Dearest Salih,

        I was simply expressing my genuine concern had you taken it at face value; nevertheless, I am really sorry that the last thing I want to do is to disappoint Salihom. In fact I see it as an opportunity to educate people, no as enlightening as you guessed. The other thing is I found the idea of googling for an opposition group with good vision or plan is very scary; instead, I definitely would rather wait for you to endorse one and follow your step. Last but not least, given this forum is totally dominated by “Nothing to Lose Group” I urge you kindly to respect my views and my concerns

        Peace!

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Peace,
          Thank you for the vote of confidence. If that was genuine trust, let us put it to test:

          You said, “….this forum is totally dominated by “Nothing to Lose Group” I urge you kindly to respect my views and concerns.”

          That is all your imagination. There is no particular group that dominates anything in this forum. It was, it is, and will always be open for all. The sober debtors who control their temper and are realistic (and respectful), will win converts to their views or at least will convince others on certain views. I advise you to make your arguments without busying yourself with keeping scores of perceived groups in this forum. Trust me there are none. People come here on his own and give it the best they have. I think that is what you should focus on.

          On a personal appeal: we spend so much time to make this forum accommodating and a place where people can have decent and educating debates. I cringe when I see comments that have no added value but seems to have been put just to annoy or insult others. I also despise ad hominem arguments and pronouncements that are not supported by a shred of evidence. I am sure you notice such comments and I appeal to you to help us maintain decency in this forum.

          Disclaimer: do you think I enjoy like seeing comments with the sole purpose of insulting and debasing everything Eritreans stand for? Do you think I enjoy stereotyping and disrespect of all Eritreans, en-masse? I don’t like it at all, but I force myself to tolerate it. I appeal to you to do the same and focus on making convincing arguments. If you don’t have one, let it go.

  • Desata Tella

    ሰላም!

    ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን!

    ቀንዲ ዕላማ ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን፥ ሕግን ፍትሕን ዝማእከሉ ቅዋም ብምምስራት
    ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ባዕሉ ብዝመረጾ መንግስቲ (ኤርትራዊ ዜጋ) ክትመሓደር ዝብል እዩ።

    • Kokhob Selam

      ክቡር ሓው :-

      ቅሩብ ተገሪመ ጸኒሐ :- ምናልባት ዶ ኾን ፍልይ ዝበለ ሓሳብ ረኺቡ ይኸውን ኢለ ነብሰይ ሓቲተ:- ዝን ኢለ – ኣስቆርቂረ :: እዋእ ኣንታ ሓቁ እዩ እቲ ብተግባር ከምኡ ዘይምዃኑ ዶ ኾን ነዘን ክልተ መስመራት ክጽሕፍ ኣገዲድዎ ድማ በልኩ ::

      ዓርኩ ካብ ሳዕሳዕካ ተቆጻጸ እዩ እኮ ! እሞ ገለ ዶ ክንብል ? መቸም ሃገርና ንሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ፍጹም መዋዳድርቲ ዘይርከቦ ርብርብ እያ ኣካይዳ :: ኣነ ግን ንሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ኣንጻር መግዛእቲ ካብ ዝኸፈልናዮ ንላዕሊ በዚ እሾኽ መሪሕነት ዝከፈልናዮ ዋጋ እዩ ዘስካሕካሓኒ :: ኣብ ዘመነ ገድሊ እዚ ሕጂ ስልጣን ገቢቱ ዘሎ ስርዓት ውን ነቲ ሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ኣይኮነን ዝመርሖ ነይሩ : ኣብ ውሽጣዊ ቁርቁስ እዩ ዝያዳ ኣድሂቡ ዝነበረ :: ሰራዊትና ግን ናብ ቀዳማይ ዕላም ኡ እዩ ዝምርሽ ነይሩ ከም ኣነ ስጋ ስውኣት ቅድሚ ናጽነት ነዚ ድሑርን ጨካንን ቀታሊ መሪሕነት ጸግዑ ከነትሕዞ ምፈተኹ ::

      እቲ ብረታዊ ቃልሲ ዕላምኡ ሃገር ብወዲ ሃገር- ብሕግን ሕጋታትን ተመሪሓ -ራህዋ ቅሳነትን ምዕባለን ክትጎናጸፍ ከምዝነበረ ኣታሓታቲ ኣይኮነን :: ሕማቕ ዕድል ኮይኑ እቲ 1977 ዓ.ም, ክዛዘም ዝነበሮ ቃልሲ ክሳብ 1991 እዩ ተዶናግዩ :: ሕጂ ውን ግዳ ክንዲ ‘ቲ ዕጥቃዊ ቃልስና ዝጠፍኦ ሰራዊት ኢና ድሕሪ ናጽነት ከፊልና ዘለና :: ነቲ ባዕዳዊ ገዛኢ ብበዓል ገዛ ምትካእና ድማ ብዘላዓለ ጎዲእና – እቲ ምንታይ ሲ እቲ ሕመረት ዕላማ ቃልስና ዝኾነ ክብርን መሰልን ዝብል ኣምር በቲ ናጽነትና ረኺብና ብምባል ዝደሰቅናዮን ከበሮን ያያዕታን እዩ ተረጊጹ :: በደል በደል እዩ ባዕዳዊ ይኹን ወዲ ሃገር ብዘየገድስ – ንገበን መለሳ የብሉን :: ገዛእቲ ተዋጊኦምና :- ኩሉ ዘሎ ሓይሊ ኣኻኺቦም ተረጋሪጎም:: ኣእምሮና ክቆጻጸርዎን ክታሉልናን ግን ኣይከኣሉን : ስርዓት ህግደፍ ግን ኣመና ተዓጊስናዮ ብዕጥቃዊ ቃልሲ ኣይተተሓሓዝናዮን :: ስለዚ ድማ ኣብ ርእስና ሸይኑ :: ኣእምሮ ብዙሓት ተቆጻጺሩ ነዊሕ ተጓዙ :: መንእሰይና ኣብ ክንዲ ብውሑድ መስዋእቲ ነዚ ገበነኛ ጉጅለ ዘልግስ ኣብ ማእከላይ ባሕርን ሰሃራታት ዓረብን ዕድሉ ክርኢ መሪጹ :: ክሳብ ትማሊ ትማሊ ብኣሽሓት ቀለብ ዓሳ ኮይኖም ናውቲ ኣካሎም ተመንጢሎም : ዕሸል ኣብ ውቅያኖስ ተወሊዱ – ኤርትራዊ ብምዃኑ ጥራይ ምንባር ተነፊጉዎ :- መድሓንቱ ከይተበትከት ምስ ኣዲኡ ጠፊኡ :: ብ ኣሽሓት ዝቁጸሩ ኣብ ክንዲ ንቆራጽ መሰረታዊ ለውጢ ኣብ ጽገናን ወዲ ጽገናን ከዕለብጡ ኣደዳ መርሸንትን ማእሰርትን ኮይኖም :: እቶም ጀጋኑና ድሮ ሸምጊሎም ኣርጎምን ካብ ሃገርን ቃልስን ተገሊፎምን – “ነዚ ዲና ህዝብና ኢልና ተቃሊስናሉ” ኣብ ዝብል መረርን ግጓሂን ይርከቡ :: ኣዴታት ዝቀደሙ ከይኣኽለን ደጊመን ደጋጊመን ዝወለደኦም ስኢነን:- ብዘይ ጠዋሪ ተሪፈን :: ዝተጋደላ ኣዴታት ውን ኣይ ክብሓዳር ኣይ ካብስራሕ ዘርሞ ዘርሞ ተሪፈን :: ደቂ ስውኣት በዚ ኣስካሕካሒ ስርዓት ተ ኣሲሮም -ተባሪሮምን – ተቀቲሎምን:: ገና ግዳ ሕጂ ውን ሓንሳብ ብ “ሃገራዊ መሬታዊ ናጽነት ኣምጺ ኤልኩም እየ ” “ልዕለይ ነዚ ሃገር ዝግደሰላ የለን” እናበለ ሓንሳብ ንኻለኦት ሃገራት በተጻባእነት እናኸሰሰ :- ሓንሳብ ብባድመ እናመኻነየ ንብዙሓት ደቂ ገርሂ ልባ ጅሆ ሒዙ ሰሪዕዎም እዩ :: ኣብ ደገ ዝነብራ ኣመንዝራታትን ኣብ ሃገር ንብረት ዘለዎም ኣረገውትን ነቲ ጭብርቅርቅ ዝበለ ህብርታት ዘለዎ ጨርቅታት ኣኻኺቡ “ንሕና ንሱ ” ከምዝብሉ ገይርዎም እዩ :: ሕሉፍ ሓሊፍዎ ከምቲ መተሓፍስቲ ጸብሒ ሓርጭ ዝውሰኾ ነዚ ቁጽሪ ንምብዛሕ ከም ግንቦት ሸውዓተ ዝኣመሰሉ ተረፍመረፍ ደርጊ ከይተረፍ ኣብ ጎኑ ከጸግዕ ፍጹም ኣይሓፈረን ::

      እሞ እዚ ከምዚ ዓይነት ስርዓት ሲ ወዲ ሃገር እዩ ተባሂሉ ዶ ክጽዋዕ ይኽእል ? ኢትዮጵይውያን ድሮ ተበራቢሮም ን ኣሽሓት ዓመታት ከንቱ ዝፈስ ስ ዝነበር ኣባይ ኣብ ጥቅሞም ከውዕልዎ እንከለው -ህግደፍ ነቲ ኣዝዩ ምንጪ ሃብቲ ዝኾነ 1200 ኪሜ ዝንውሓቱ ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ካብ ጠቅሚ ወጻእ ገይርዎ ይርከብ :: እሞ ድማ መን ከም ህግደፍ ” ብጽፍርና “ኢልዎ እዩ :: ብጃህራስ እኮ ሃገርና ናብ ሲንጋፑር ካብ ትቅየር ናይ ሓደ ወለዶ ዕድመ ኣሕሊፋ እያ ::

      ብሓቂ ግን እዚ ስርዓት ነዛ ሃገር ከም ሃገር ክትነብር ይደልያ ድዩ ? መሰል ደቂ ሰባት ዝቁዕጽጽ- ባህርያዊ ሃብታ ዝቀብር – እቲ ቀንዲ ሰብኣዊ ሓይሊ ዝኾነ መንእሰይ ኣብ ግዱድ ዕስክርና ኣሲሩ ዝነብር – ምሁራት ዘባርር – ከም ኮማሪት ኣብ ኣፍደገ ኮይኑ ሸንጡ ሒዙ ምስ ምሉእ ዓለም ዝቋየቅ ስርዓት -ንዘካየድናዮ ሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ዝቀትል ስርዓት – በየናይ መዐቀኒ ካብ ብዓል መንግስቱ ይሓይሽ ?

      እወውል ሰላም ዝሓውይ እኹል ተቆጻጽየ መስለኒ ::

      • Lamek

        Hi KS,

        You summed it all up here:

        ብሓቂ ግን እዚ ስርዓት ነዛ ሃገር ከም ሃገር ክትነብር ይደልያ ድዩ ? መሰል ደቂ ሰባት ዝቁዕጽጽ- ባህርያዊ ሃብታ ዝቀብር – እቲ ቀንዲ ሰብኣዊ ሓይሊ ዝኾነ መንእሰይ ኣብ ግዱድ ዕስክርና ኣሲሩ ዝነብር – ምሁራት ዘባርር – ከም ኮማሪት ኣብ ኣፍደገ ኮይኑ ሸንጡ ሒዙ ምስ ምሉእ ዓለም ዝቋየቅ ስርዓት -ንዘካየድናዮ ሃገራዊ ቃልሲ ዝቀትል ስርዓት – በየናይ መዐቀኒ ካብ ብዓል መንግስቱ ይሓይሽ ?

        IA is filled with hatred and contempt towards the Eritrean people and his actions testify to this. The others are just blackmailed enablers. This is the best life they can imagine. They know they are deeply hated by the people and if the regime is gone, they have no place so that is why they are doing everything they can to keep the status quo. Look at the stupid Osman whoever (he is the FM). He was told to not speak to reporters again and ordered back to Asmara and he went back running. He is doomed. Why did he go back? Mark my words, he will be frozen (kidskil eyu) and then he will start complaining and he will be arrested. This is all textbook material but these guys know their crimes against the Eritrean people so they will never ask refuge with the poor Eritrean people.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Hi Lamek,
          long time not hear your voice. Ya you see in our Tigrigna cultural dance we have the KUDA and SMRA. Lol that was the last covers all all you have to do is move nicely. Lol ኣይንኽእሎን ዶ ኢልክናናየ ኣብቲ ጉዳይና and then ዋና ዶ ዋና ዶ የምሕረለይ ዶ !

      • Desata Tella

        ሰላም ክቡር ሓው

        ኣብ ዓለም ሓድሽ ነገረ ዝበሃል እኳ እንተዘይሃለወ ከም ልምዲ ሓዱሽ ንብሎ ግና ንዝተዓየረ [modify] ኮይኑ ንዝቐርብ ነገራት እዩ። ሕጂ ተዛሪብካ እንታይ ኣምጻእካ እዲዩ ክመጽእ እንተዘይ ተጋግየ። ኣብ መእተዊኻ ጠቒስካዮ ከምዘለኻ ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን ዝብል ኣርእስት ምስ ረኣኻ እንታይ ሓዱሽ ነገር ኣምጺአ ይኸዉን ኢልካ ትጽቢት ጌርካ ምንባርካ ገልጽካ ኣለኻ። ኣነ ነዚ ጽሑፍ ንኽጽሕፍ ቀንዲ ዝደረኸኒ ነገር እንተሎ “ተደናገጽቲ ህግደፍ” ዝኾኑ ነዛ ኣርእስቲ “ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን ትብል” ከም ሓዳ ዓብይ ነገር ወሲዶም ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዘታልሉላ ኮይና ስለዝረኸብኩዋ እቲ ንሶም ንህዝብና ንምድንጋር ዝጥቀሙሉ ቃላትን ኣበሃህላን ፍጹም ትኽክል ዘይምኻኑ ንጹር ንምግባርን እቲ ትኽክለኛ ትሕዝትኡ ንምግላጽን ብሕጽር ዝበለ መልክዑ ብኸምዚ ከቐምጦ መሪጸ: [ “ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን ማለት” ቀንዲ ዕላማ ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን፥ ሕግን ፍትሕን ዝማእከሉ ቅዋም ብምምስራት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ባዕሉ ብዝመረጾ መንግስቲ (ኤርትራዊ ዜጋ) ክትመሓደር] ዝብል ምኻኑ ብሕጽር ዝበለ ህዝብና እኹል መረዳእታ ክህልዎ ምግባርን ብህግደፍ ንዝግበር ጎስጓሳት ብዛዕብ ኤርትራ ንኤርትራዊያን ኣዙዩ ካብ ሓቂ * መሰረት ዘይብሉ ምኻኑ ብዓቕመይን ትኽክልን ዝብሎ ክልጽ ስለዝደለኹ ኮይኑ ተሳተፍቲ ብዛዕባዚ ዘለዎም ኣረኣእያ ንኽፍስሱን ኮይኑ ብመንገድኻ ቀሪቡ ዘሎ ጽሑፍ ኣዝዩ ገላጺ ኮይኑ ኣሎ ጥራሕ ዘይኮነ ብሓፈሻ ንምታይ ጽሑፍና ገሊጽና ኣለና ንኣንበብቲ ንጹር ከይኮነ ኣይተርፍን እዩ ዝብል እምነት ኣለኒ።

  • Rahwa T

    Hello Awate forumers,

    I would like share my view with those of you on the people of Welqait, who recently have caught the attention of the media. Like many peoples in Tigray and other places in Ethiopia, Welqayts are not happy with the current administration of the region. While there are some remarkable changes one can see even at village levels, the infrastructural developments accomplished over the past quarter of century was not satisfactory. Nobody would deny these bold realities on the ground. As expected, a group of individuals, many of them with EPRP & EDU political background and resides outside of the region, have always been working to use the administrative failures.

    However, as far as my understanding the people of Welqayt, despite the fact that they were administered by Gonderian rulers from Wogera, Gayant and other places in southern Gonder, have never considered themselves as Amhara. Of course, they never see themselves as Tigrians. They have always been proud “Wolqayt”, proud to speak the language their ancestors in their own slung and pronunciation, and use many words that are commonly used in highland Eritrea than in Tigray even at the center of Paiaza (Gonder). At times, the Welqayts contemptuously insult the Amhara as the “saHsaH AmHaray” and the Tigrian (saHasaH Tigraway). So, for those of you who are saying “they are AmHara”, you are lying and of course you are gambling with politics.

    Of course they sing Amharic songs (Gonderian style) during wedding, but also sometimes in Tigrigna with Gonderian bit. Many said this was mainly because lots of “Azmari (“WaTa)” used to visit their villages usually after the harvesting season during the old days travelling four to five days on foot from Dembya all the way to Adi RemeTs, Qafta, Himbrti and Dansha.Otherwise, one would find many people who cannot speak Amharic, except those who travel to Gonder, Addis Ababa and other place for educational and business reasons. The ”Azmari”s from Dembya do not restrict themselves to Wolqait, they travers as far Shire-Endasilassie and Asmara.

    It is true that Wolqayt share many cultural traditions with the AmHara, but this is always the case wherever one go. And who said all Tigrigna speakers have the same culture? No. Never. Each Woreda have their own styles. Those who share boarders with Wello, Gonder and Eritrea share many things with their immediate neighbors and they have always lived peacefully for centuries.

    If you click the following interview you can have some understanding about Welqayt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OccJm1Wc_0

    • Guest

      Dear rahwa t
      1st welkyait never been under gayant demonstration. You don’t even know the the map .they been always been under wogera 2nd you rught they never called themself amhara or tigrai except gondara and welkyate 3rd the azrmari thing is just the usual tigrain insult nothing more nothing less 4th you rught they learn tigraign not from tigrai it was eritrans there was a big business relation going on with eritrea even.Italy after rhe inved ethiopia one of the 1st plan was to build a trian connacting tasnia to gondar.5th do u honestly believe the complain just started rhis year b/c of bad governance? It been thier the last 25 year.about the language what can i say even tplf in rhe firest years of rhier administeration telemet and tegeda use to be demonstrated by amahric. The only relation with tugrai was tigraian workers not only in welkyiat but in all of north gondar.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Rahwa T,

      welcome it have been a bit long time since we saw your posts here. As I said earlier the case of Welkyat is not clear for me but I only want to say, Ethiopia has better leadership and big universities than most of African countries – means all the history of the society can be discussed and solved with out much disturbance. Above all it is the Welkyat people who should chose to where to belong. There might be even chances that they will chose their own instead of becoming Amhara or Tigray, I really don’t see it is difficult. At the end of the day that is Ethiopia.