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Graduated in Coffee Bean Picking

On Negarit 104 I talked about vowels and consonants and why Tigrinya speakers add a “i” vowel to many words like Oklandi, Taxi, Hollandi, etc. A commentator (HTT) explained the reason: it has to do with the word construction and combinations of vowels and consonants. I found his explanation palatable and that is why I am appealing to my audiences who can add value to what I present by participating in the content creation for Negarit. A 500-600-word content on the subjects they know could make Negarit a truly ‘by and from’ the audience.

As you can imagine, producing Negarit episodes (which are presented in bullet points) is time consuming and involves researching the topics, correction, or adding to what I already know. It’s not easy. So, please help me enrich the topics. And thank you in advance. Now let’s proceed to the next segment: Coffee.

Coffee Beans From Kaffa

It’s widely believed that the origin of Coffee is in the region known as the Kaffa, a province during the Haile Selassie era. So, it’s around the Jimma area (Jimma Aba Jiffar was a famous king of the region during the era of king Menelik; hopefully that will be a topic for another time). Arab traders took coffee out of the Jimma area to the Yemeni port of Mekha’e (Moka) which was a thriving port in the past. Turks picked the name and pronounced it Kahva (after the Arabic Kahwa). It’s widely claimed that that the Arabic Kahwa is a corruption of Kaffa. Later on, from Yemen, Coffee was introduced to the Italian city state of Venice which was an important trading port and home of the famous Italian traveler, Marco Polo, who travelled on the ancient Silk Road and brought the Chinese noodles that the Italians developed into Spaghetti and pasta. From Venice, coffee spread to Europe and beyond.

In modern times, the Italians perfected the coffee machine like Gaggia and Moka coffee-makers named after the Yemeni port of Moka. Arabica is the most expensive type of coffee beans; originally it grew in Kaffa. But today, Ethiopia production of Arabica is overshadowed by other countries that produce it in greater volumes. Now let’s see the origin of our word for tomatoes.

There is no Tigrinya speaker who has not heard ‘TsebHi-Abun’ for tomatoes. The origin of the word is the Italian word Pomodoro—did we know tomatoes before the Italian colonized us? I doubt it. And that could be why they call it TsebHi-Abun—I think the Italians introduced it to our region. Abun means pope, maybe the Italians said it was what the pope eats. Thus, Tsebhi-Abun, the stew of the pope of the Vatican. So, to those who insist on calling it Tsebhi Abun, I ask: when was the last time (or ever) you went to a shop and asked for a kilo of TsebHi-Abun? Never. The word is dead, and I suggest you settle on Komidere, Komaderre, komodoro, Tematim, Tematm, etc.

The benefit of tomato is limited to making a stew thicker instead of watery. Ethiopians, particularly the Amhara, rarely use Tomatoes; in Eritrea, you cannot have a good stew without it. But if you closed your eyes and tasted tomatoes, you wouldn’t know what it is because it has a neutral taste unlike many other vegetables and fruits. Tomatoes are tasteless and to me, useless—it’s 95% water and the other 5% of what it contains is available in other stable foods. Also, tomatoes are not common in the Eritrean Lowland cuisine though it’s popular in cities.

Tomatoes are classified as fruits, not a vegetable, and TsebHi-Abun is mental gymnastics, like “sne” a prefix that we tend to add to many words—sne-history, sne-Tbeb, and sne-anything. It’s just redundant like “Deqi”: deqi-tebAetyo (males), deqi-ansteyo (females). It’s as useless as tomatoes—if you were cooking and a spoon fell inside the pan and it remained there until you finished cooking, the spoon will not add or decrease anything to the taste of your food. Are men children of males or females only? Aren’t they both children of both genders? Then, why do we say children of females when referring to women, and children of males when referring to men? I suggest we get rid of the deqi (children of) and say tabaetyo (men) and ansteyoo (women), without the redundant prefix that doesn’t add anything. Back to food, let’s see the origin of some food items and plants.

Origin of Food

Whenever you eat potatoes and corn, remember the native Americans, Incas and others. Bananas, mangoes, papaya, and many others tropical fruits are originally from southeast Asia. Belles (the prickly pear) originated in central America and was introduced to Eritrea via India. I think it was the Italians who brought it after a severe famine hit Eritrea. In Ethiopia, the Eucalyptus tree was brought from Australia during Menelik’s reign, now it’s all over the place one would think it’s an indigenous tree. In many parts of Eritrea, people use the essential spices without thinking of their origin—it was introduced to our region by Banyan Indians, just like the Ejje-Tebab (jodhpur, salwar kemees) which they first introduced to king Tedros. The Jodhpur was an Indian horse riding and polo rider’s attire, but later on horse-riders all over the world adopted it, so did Hitler (followed by Mussolini, followed by Anwar Sadat—dictators like it). Now it is widely adopted as a national dress in the Abyssinian region. At first, Tedros thought it was meant only for royals; the commoners had to do with their ancient wrap-around body-covers—and textile was not easily available (or affordable). It was only after the industrial revolution that textiles became affordable. So was purple which was limited to the use of kings and their inner circles. At one time the so-called “Solomonic kings” punished people who wore purple colored cloths. These kings also had an aversion to shoes. I believe it was during the Napier expedition that the English took two Tigrayan brothers to India for education. One of them became an engineer and worked in projects in places as far as Burma. The other brother returned home and visited Yohannes wearing a shoe. But they admonished the “Europeanized” man for walking in the presence of the king in shoes. Yohannes didn’t wear shoes like everybody else in the region. A man should walk over thorns and deal with it, not act “womanly”! That was the wisdom. But they didn’t provide shoes for the women either! Nowlet’s return to Jimma, the city of Mufrihat Kamil Ahmed

Mufrihat Kamil and Kalidi’s Coffee

Everybody living in well to do countries knows Starbucks coffee; and many people in the Horn of Africa know Mufrihat Kamil, the Ethiopian minister of peace. She was born, raised and studied in Jimma. In a recent speech, she diplomatically criticized the zero-sum game that the political elite are engaged in.

… political differences are likely to happen. Personally, I believe difference of opinion is a blessing… I can’t say, since we have difference of opinion we can’t see eye to eye, if we are democratic enough… you can hold on to your views and I can hold on to mine, but we can overcome [our difference]… above us, above the politicians, there is a country and a people…]

So far, she has been the voice of reason where reason and wisdom are in short supply among Ethiopian leaders (including Eritrean leaders). Would they listen to her, or, they will continue with the usual deqi-TebaEtyo (children of Males) attitude? We will see. But the elite who nowadays are acting like street mobs all over the Internet must heed her call and support it.

Next, let’s see the Jimma inspired coffee business?

Stabruksi Jimma

Jimma, the origin of coffee doesn’t earn a fraction of what Nestle, or Starbucks earn from Coffee. Just after the Baddmme war, some Ethiopians launched an excellent satirical website called Seleda. Until it died many years ago, it displayed a clever emblem imitating the Starbucks logo–Starbucks wouldn’t be around if not for Jimma Coffee. The logo, Jimma Coffee, was an excellent business proposal though I doubt if they saw it that way. Years later, an Ethiopian business called Kaldi’s, imitated the Starbuck business model. It is probably named after the shepherd boy, Khaldi, who according to legend (there are several such legendary stories) saw his goats get high and hyper-active after chewing some coffee beans. I am not sure if the Kaldis’ brand is inspired by the legend or it is simply the owner’s name. But according to the chain’s website, there are 16 Kaldis’ coffee shops in Addis Ababa. That project is what I consider claiming what’s yours. The Kaldi’s experience is one of success that should be emulated.

Last week Isaias Afwerki landed in Jimma (he was well-dressed, in case you are wondering). And he used the usual UAE neighborhood plane (after the popular English “neighborhood bicycle”) that the kefeel (sponsor) sends to all his proteges around the Middle East. You see that plane in Eritrea, in Yemen, in Libya and other places where the UAE is involved. Isaias landed in Jimma and at once Abiy took him to a coffee plantation for a quick training on coffee picking. Abiy graded his skills with ‘A’, and he graduated with distinction. Then he took Isaias to every project that the late Meles Zenawi initiated and executed, even to the Nile Dam that Isaias used to call “white elephant project.” Abiy took him to industrial parks, roads, dams, and a vehicle assembly/factory—all built during the era of Meles Zenawi—but since Abiy changed the names of several of them, he can claim them as his achievements. However, he has nothing to do with any of the projects that he inaugurates, cuts the ribbon for, etc., surrounded by ululations and public cheering: Aby! Abiy! Abiy, Issu, Issu, Issu. In fact, the only project that Abiy presided over is the Entoto public park and palace renovation—and I doubt if he didn’t inherit the designs and studies from his predecessors—would those who know share some info about that? Until then, there is nothing built in the short era of the glorious Prime Minister Abiy, the seventh king (Ethiopian call him that but I do not know what 7th means.)

Final Words

Finally, we have arrived at the end of the program and I must respect the closing traditions. I always close my presentation with a positive message of hope. However, I fully understand that hope alone will not suffice unless people work to achieve their goals. Sitting in a corner and praying endlessly will not cut the need to work. Still, a people devoid of hope cannot achieve anything. Hope energizes the mental readiness that drives the physical push. Do Eritreans have what it takes to achieve their dreams of peace, stability and freedom? Yes. People can ask that question as many times as they wish, and the answer will always be a resounding YES. Focus on the hindrance and on what needs to be done. The main problem Eritreans face is the cruel regime and its leaders who always show Eritreans a mean face, who never had good words for the people, but put-downs and undermining their intelligence. It’s the man who betrayed their trust and shattered their dreams. And the rooster’s job is announcing the approach of a new down. Even if it sounded a premature announcement.

NB: this is a rough transcript of Negarit 105 that was delivered in Tigrinya

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam All

    It is weekend and slow comments day, so let’s polish our Tigrigna skills for a change.

    “Hi SG; the title in Tigrigna is wrong.”ምልቃም” should have read “ምእራይ”. ምልቃም is Amharic. :-)” Nitricc

    “ምእራይን” “ምልቃምን” are interchangeable words that are popularly used one from the other depending on certain regions.” Amanuel Hidrat

    “I think ምእራይ is picking from the ground, ምልቃም is picking from trees. If it’s not, we need a word for that and no mistake in borrowing from another language be it Amharic or Fulani.” Saleh Johar

    “It works for both cases. But I am curious about what you call someone who picks beles from the tree? I never heard the phrase ለቓም በለስ.” Consolation

    “Abey Beles ms leqemku emo feliTeyo, kidding. Good point, I don’t.” Berhe

    “who picks beles from the tree? በለስ አውሪዱ, you call it.” uf

    1. – Well, first thing first: lem throw some jabs here. Here at Awate, when the people who play experts of the Tigrigna language happens to be Asmarinos and Kerenaits, that’s what you get. No surprises there! So, please humble yourself, and leave the Tigrigna language to the people who know (speak) nothing but the Tigrigna language: the ጨጓር ዳንጋs around here

    2. – . Seriously though: yes Eritrean Tigrigna use to be very diverse way back in the days. But now, thanks to – Ghedli, modern transportation, Sawa, National Service, and the mass-media – Eritrean Tigrigna is standardized. If there exists any difference, it is very negligible difference. But as a rule of thumb, yes it is true, in Eritrean cities and as you travel West and South from the Tigrigna Land, you will hear pidgin Tigrigna (compared to the Tigrigna of the Eritrean Kebessa).

    Example:
    Kerenait Tigrigna: ፋርገና ያሆ ሓመሪገት ኣይትግበሮ
    In Kebssa Tigrigna: ግደፈና በጃኻ፡ ስቕ ኢልካ ኣይትዘራርጎ

    Tigrean Tigrigna: when you ask him ትማሊ ዓዲመካስ ‘ታይ ኮንካ ዳኣ ዘይመጻእካ?
    ኽመጽእ ሞኲረስ፡ መኪና እምቢ ኢላትኒ ዳእኾንኩይ ቀርየ። ግን ዳሕና፡ ናጋ ብኣርባዕተ ሰዓት ኽመጽእ ‘የ
    In Kebssa Tigrigna: ክመጽእ ፈቲነስ፡ መኪና ምስ ኣበየትኒ ተሪፈ። ግን ደሓን፡ ጽባሕ ሰዓት ኣርባዕተ ክመጽእ ‘የ

    Asmarino Tigrigna: ኩሱ ኡሙ ያኣኽ፡ ፋቮረ ዝገብረሉ ዘይርዳእ ኢኞራንተ ሰብ ‘ዩ
    In Kebssa Tigrigna: ባዕሉ ‘ፈልጥ በጃኻ፡ ሓጋዚኡ ዘይፈልጥ ደንቆሩ ሰብ ‘ዩ

    The point: when Asmarinos, Kerenaits, and Tigreans play experts of the Tigrigna language, we the ጨጓር ዳንጋs say – ‘ወ ‘የ ‘ነ ሓሳረይ! ሎምስ ‘ታይ ክንሰምዕ ‘ይና

    1. – Now to the main point

    A. – ምቕንጣብ – to take off (pick) something forcefully from a body. There is unspoken cultural insinuation here. ምቕንጣብ refers only for/to something that is very small compared to the body. Example a fruit or a leaf. ወይኒ ይቕንጠብ፡ ቆጽሊ ይቕንጠብ፡ ቡን ይቕንጠብ; በለስ ይቕንጠብ

    2. – ምእራይ
    A. – To remove something(s) that is(are) mixed with some other thing. There is unspoken cultural insinuation here. (a) those that are mixed together are very small in size (b) the ones that are being removed are a lot fewer in number than the ones that are mixed with (a>b). እምኒ ካብ እኽሊ ትኣርዮ። እኽሊ ካብ ሓመድ (ባይታ) ትኣርዮ። ወርቂ ካብ ሓመድ (ባይታ) ትኣርዮ

    B. – ምእራይ
    To collect some things from the ground. There is unspoken cultural insinuation here. The things that are being picked from the ground and collected are very easy to discriminate and pick – are big enough – to collect from the ground. ጋባ ይእረ። ምልዖ ይእረ። ገንዘብ (loose change) ይእረ

    C. – ምእራይ
    To collect and bring something from far, far places. There is unspoken cultural insinuation here. The things that are being collected are (a) in a very far, far place (b) there is scarcity of those things or they are not in abundance (c) you’ve to go from place to place all day to collect just a few (d) you’re traveling a long distance, spending a lot of time to collect just few, and the ones you collected are not worth your effort. Meaning; it is something that is done by desperate people – extremely poor people.
    Examples:
    1. – ምልዖ ይእረ። በለስ ይእረ። ቃንጥሻ ይእረ። ኣብ’ዚ፡ ኣራይ በለስ ኢልካ ንሰብ ክትጸርፍ ከለኻ፡ እቲ ሰብ’ቲ; ንሰዓታት ተጓዒዙ ከይዱ፡ ምሉእ መዓልቲ ክኣሪ ዉዒሉ፡ ብጉልበቱ ንሰዓታት ተሰኪሙ ኣምጺኡ፡ ንዘጠቕማ ገንዘብ ጉልበቱ ስለዘሕስር ኢኻ ኣራይ በልስ ትብሎ ዘለኻ።

    2. – ካልእ፡ ልክዕ ከም ‘ቲ ኣራይ በለስ ዝብል ጸርፊ፡ ቀራሚ ዝብል ጸርፊ ‘ውን ኣሎ። ትርጉሙ ካኣ ሐደ እዩ። እቲ ፍልልይ፡ እቲ ሓደ፡ በብሓደ ፍረ-በለስ ክኣሪ ክውዕል ከሎ፡ እቲ ሓደ ድማ በብሓደ ፍረ-እኽሊ ኣብ ግራት ኽኣሪ ስለዝውዕል ጥራይ እዩ

    3. – ምልቃም

    A. – To pick or remove something painstakingly, something that requires a lot of focusing and a lot of fine-motor coordination, something that is too tiny, something that is not easy to discriminate.

    Examples:
    1. – እዚ ቖልዓ፡ ግደፍ እንዳበልክዎ፡ ጐዩ ከይዶ ነዛ ፍረ በለስ ሒዝዋስ፡ ብብሓደ ብወረጦ እሾኽ በለስ ካብ ኢዱ ክለቅም፡ ተካለይ ኣርፊደ
    2. – ዘበን ሓሚቑ፡ ዝዘራእናዮ እኽሊ ማይ ስኢኑ፡ የዕዋፍ ሰማይን ህበይ በረኻን፡ በብሓደ ክለቕመኦ ይውዕላ ኣለዋ

    B. – ምልቃም
    To consume (eat) something that is too miniscule for a very hungry stomach.
    Examples:
    ኣብ እዋን ገድሊ፡ ዓሰርተ ዝኾና ቆሎ ዕፉን ለቒምና፡ መመላእታ ሕፍንቲ ማይ ሓሬት ሰቲና፡ ንዓርተ ክልተ ሰዓት ዝተጓዓዝናሉ ግዜ ይዝከረኒ። ህበይ በብሓንቲ ኣኹዕንቲ ትለቅም። ደርሆ፡ ዝኻዓኻላ እኽሊ፡ በብሓደ ትለቅም።

    Semere Tesfai

    • Abi

      ወንድም አማች
      “አዘለም አንጠለጠለ ያው ተሸከመ ነው” ይላል የአዲስ ጮሌ::

      Totally frustrated for missing this comment.

      • Semere Tesfai

        ሰላም ወንድም አማች

        “አዘለም አንጠለጠለ ያው ተሸከመ ነው” ይላል የአዲስ ጮሌ”

        ኣዘለ – በጀርባ (on his back)

        ኣንጠለጠለ – በእጅ

        ተሸከመ – በወገብ (shoulder)

        Semere Tesfai

        • Abi

          ወንድም አማች
          1–ጨጏር ዳንጋ ሠመረ ላውንቸር በትከሻው ተሸከመ
          2– በርሄ ፍየል በጀርባው አዘለ
          3–ሱልጣን ዘንቢል በእጁ አንጠለጠለ
          4– አቢቲ ቆንጂትን በደረቱ አቀፈ

          አንዳንዱን ለሸክም ሌላውን ለፍቅር ይፈጥረዋል 🙂

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ወንድም አማች

            Speaking of የአዲስ ጮሌ, when I was in Sudan, I had an ኣማራ coworker and close friend who happen to be from Addis. And he told me a story about የአዲስ ጮሌ who was singing on the side-streets of Addis to diverse people who pass-by to collect few changes by putting a smile on their faces – and even probably making them think about themselves. And this was one of his songs

            ኣማራ ቆንጆ ነው፡ ቆንጆም ዜት ይወዳል
            ትግሬንም ጐበዝ ነው፡ ቴስታውን ይወዳል
            ኦሮሞም ጐበዝ ነው፡ ሹሞሉን ይወዳል
            ጉራጌ ግን ብልጥ ነው፡ ሌሊት ይነግዳል

            What do you think?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            ሞቶ በሞቶ እስማማለሁ!

            ጉራጌና ትግሬ ተጣልተው ጉርጌው ምን አለ መሰለህ?
            “ጭንቅላቱን ያዙልኝ ሌላውን አልፈራውም”

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰመረ
      ህግደፍ ትማሊ በብሓደ መንእሰያት ኤርትራ ክለቅም ውዒሉ።
      ማንታ ሓው ህግደፍ [ኣንበጣ ማለት ዩ] ነዚ ተስፋ ዝተገብረሉ ዘራእቲ ልቕም ውዒልዎ።
      ናትካ ናይ ትግርኛ vocabulary ኣስፍሕ ኣብሎ።

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ፡

    ምረቓ ተመሃሮ ኮለጃት ኤርትራ
    ክትግበር ርኤኹ ሎምቅነ በብተራ
    ዘሕጉስ እዩ ክትርኢ ክትቅበል ተመሃሪት ፍረ-ጻዕራ

    ውሑዳት መሰታይ ዝኾኑ መማህራን ርእየ ደስ ኢሉኒ
    ኣብ ቀረባ ዝፈልጦ ግና ሓደ ጥራይ ምዃኑ ኣተሓሳሲቡኒ
    ብዓል’ነ መዓሾ መሃንዘል ኣብዚ ከምዘለና ዘንጊዔዮ’ሲ ኣስሒቑኒ

    ዓቕሊ ገይረ ትዊታት የማነ-ገ እንተ’ንበብኩ
    ኣብ ዩ-ትዩብ’ውን ዝተወረ ጽን ኢለ ‘ተድመጽኩ
    ፕሮፈሶር እትብል ማዓርግ ተሪፈ እንኮ ጊዜ ካይሰማዕኩ

    ናብ ጎረቤትና ስግር እንተበልካ
    ኩሉ ዶክቲሩ ይውረ ይገርመካ
    ፕሮፈሶር በሽበሽ ፈቐድኡ ኢሎሞ ዝጸንሓካ

    ኣብ ዓዋተ ካይተረፈ ፕሮፈሶር መሊኡና
    ሳላ Hope/Sultan/Paul, እንታይ ስኢንና
    ስፍስፍ ኣቢሎም ማዓርግ የቐምጡ ኣብ ርእስና

    እሞ ኣብ ዓድና ድኣ ንምንታይ እዚ መዓርግ ውሒዱ
    መሲልዎም ኣሕሉቕና ዝተዋህበ ንጸዓዱ?
    ወይስ ጠፊእዎም ምሁራትና ሕድሕድ ምንኣኣዱ
    እታ ሓቂ ግና ሓለቓ ሃገር ብዓብኦም እዮም ስለ ዘይፈቐዱ
    እንትርፊ ጸርፊን ሽዳን ምንኣድ ምምዕራግ ስለ ዘይለመዱ
    ይውረ ብብጾቶም ምሁር ዝብሃል ካብ ቀደሞም ምስጸመዱ

    ዝኾነ ኮይኑ
    ነዞም ክንሰምዖም ዘይዛረቡ ካይሓሰቡ ካየስተማቐሩ
    ኣብ ውሽጢ ሃገር ኮይኖም ብጽፍሮም ዝመራመሩ
    ምስጋና ይብጽሓዮም ነዞም ዘሰልጥኑ ዘስተምህሩ

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Hailat,

      This is wonderful. You know the resolve of Eritrean people is amazing. With all the obstacles that we have to go through, our young are doing their best.

      Last couple of weeks, we learned Ibrahim Omer elected to the New Zealand parliament, who was Sawa graduate.

      Last week I read two young men who worked at ministry of information have defended their PhD thesis.

      We would have so money with PhD and doctors and professors, if it wasn’t for those ‘Seb Qim”.

      Berhe

  • Selam All,

    “Trump and Africa: How Ethiopia was ‘betrayed’ over Nile dam”, is an article on the bbc. One can easily see the conspiracy of a dictator, al-sisi, and a would-be dictator, trump, when the later said before the world community that, egypt will blow up the dam and it has to do something about the dam. He emphasized it in such a way as if he would do it himself on behalf of his favorite dictator.

    It is said that trump has no knowledge of global diplomacy as he has no knowledge of anything important than acting in a bullish and deceitful way.

    Trump betrayed ethiopia as he betrayed the kurds of syria and he left them at the mercy of the turkish dictator. Somebody (an american journalist, i think) was saying that trump likes to kiss the ….. of dictators.

    He wanted to sell ethiopia and palestine for the sake of arab-israeli rapprochement. Even worse, if he is reelected, trump will continue to push ethiopia to sign the trump deal, which is a replica of the colonial 1929 and 1959 agreements egypt signed with sudan and britain.

    The sudanese society is deeply divided with the agreement of recognizing israel, and this could destabilize sudan, because sudanese politicians who oppose the rapprochement say that the transitional government has no rights to sign such document.

    Trump is creating a new cold war with China on the back of poor african countries, s**thole countries as he unashamedly called them.

    His son in law, Jared Kushner, is also saying that trump can’t want african-americans to be successful more than they want to be successful themselves. This is reminiscent of R. Reagan’s rhetoric that african-americans live on welfare, more or less meaning they contribute nothing to the economy. R.R and thatcher undermined the welfare state and they fought to implement neo-liberalism and globalization, which are the culprits for what is happening in the world today.
    The truth is that trump and jared kushner both inherited wealth to become what they are today.
    You can read the article on the bbc.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት
    ናይ ሎሚ ህዝቢ ኤረትራ
    ከመይ ትገልጾ?
    ቀሊል
    ኩሉ ሰብ ዝፈልጦ

    ፈራሕ ንጥቕመይ በሃሊ
    ኣብ ናጻ-ሃገር ኴኑ ናይ ጠላም
    ስርዓት-ህግደፍ ኣገልጋሊ
    ዝዛረብ ኣድገ-በቕሊ
    ይብል ኣነስ

    ናይ ቀደምከ ከመይ ኔሩ?
    ጠምት
    ኣብ በዓል ባርያ ኣብራር
    ወዲ ገብሩ

    ዘይከም ወዲ ትኹል
    ድሁል
    ምስ ዝነገሰ ዝዕልል
    በርኔንተ

  • Simon Kaleab
    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear SK,

      What is that? Tell us the use of this link…I don’t understand the use..

      All are the same for me,,,People are suffering because of them and corrupted and are all useless to the world..Think of creating better world…

      KS,,

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam KS,

        Wait! I forgot to post a link to an article blaming every disaster on Isaias, Abiy and Trump and the USA.

  • Simon Kaleab

    Nitric,

    Crying? Get a hug from Sophia.

  • bmi1

    Eritrea had the highest percentage of children under age 5 who were not growing well (e.g., stunted) in all of Eastern and Southern Africa, at 61%. UNICEF.
    Eritrea had the second highest prevalence of slavery in the world as of 2018 (following North Korea). Global Slavery Index.
    139,281 — Documented Eritrean refugees and asylum seekers in Ethiopia as of December 31, 2019. Of that number, 70,129 were new arrivals, and 15.4% were unaccompanied children. United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.
    6,000 — Average monthly refugee flow from Eritrea to Ethiopia, 2019. United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.
    3,092 — Unaccompanied Eritrean children arriving in Italy in 2015. United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in Eritrea.
    1,000 — Unaccompanied Eritrean children smuggled from Catania, Sicily by criminal organizations (whether consensually for onward migration to northern Europe, or for unknown and more dangerous fates) between 2013 and July 2016. The Guardian, quoting a local Eritrean cultural mediator.

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam all,

    On the other hand, Donald Trump who has an extended Jewish family (daughter, son-in-law, grand children), and also had a black girlfriend (Kara Young) in the 1990s, is called a racist.

    What an Orwellian world!

    • Nitricc

      SK just you know that you don’t matter.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Nitric the brain dead parrot 🐦,

        You are 55, I guess, your parents (who might be in their 70s) are still babysitting you.

  • Simon Kaleab
  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I have no idea why the Ethiopians they don’t translate this and educate their people. This Abay project is everything for Ethiopia. This guy did a good job and he makes a sense. Now the Egyptians got a green light and Ethiopians better get ready. Stop fighting between Killis and ethnic. If this it doesn’t unite you, i don’t what it does.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8mleSL9Jqw

    • NewDawn

      Wedi Gojame, why are you always worried for Ethiopia ? why do you want them united and strong, so bad. And the rest of Eritreans here as well, its really confusing.

      • Nitricc

        ND; because i am not a TPLF thug like you are. Ethiopians deserve to use their resources. it is the right thing to do. How is your TPLF thugs. hahahaha did you hear Deprestion send the message to the line of Naqfa? they are dead.

        • NewDawn

          Selam Nitricc, theirs no such thing as deserve, no one deserves anything this is the harsh reality of the world . Everyday pfdj morons talk about tplf this tplf that. Do you and your ilk not get bored? you’re only use post-Isaias, is being human parrots in a zoo.

          I do not worry about Tplf, because I’m focussed on the wellbeing’s of eritreans, i know that line of thinking is hard for you to understand.

          As for your last sentence, no i havent heard and i could careless.

          • Nitricc

            ND; come clean. are you not Agazain? let’s clear that and we will go from it. please, i am saying is out of transiency. be a man.

          • NewDawn

            Selam Nitricc, I’m not agazian. Stop deflecting please.

          • Nitricc

            Okay Are you Tigryan? i just want to know who i am talking with. One thing is clear, you don’t stand for Eritrea. Tell me who you are and then we can have meaningful discussion. I followed you and i have my reasons.

          • NewDawn

            Selam nitricc, i stand for eritrea, the fire of eritrea is strong in my heart. If you found my passport, it would tell you where iam from.

            I’am a young eritrean, i come here to learn, i have dreams of returning back home as a technocrat with fresh ideas on helping eritrea. You know i had a dream one time , it was bahta hagos telling me to return back home, i’am not superstituous but to me this was a prophecy.

          • Nitricc

            ND; okay. The reason i said what i said is that you always support the Agazians and anti Eritrean elements. if you stand for Eritrea why do you support the anti Eritrean garbage’s? If you are honest and you believe what you are saying i have nothing but respect. But why do you support the anti Eritrean elements, then?

          • NewDawn

            Selam nitricc, why made you infer that i support anti-eritrean elements? The burden of proof lies on you. So please can you tell me?

          • Nitricc

            Hi ND; you never missed the opportunity to show your supports to the declared Agazians and closet Agazinas. It is your right to support anyone you like but i just don’t want be deceived. However; if you are telling me the truth. i do apricate you stand for Eritrea. The people of Eritrea has been wronged the last 70 years. Nothing is worth while than to stand with the people of Eritrea. The point is you never missed missed to show your support to anti Eritrea elements. by what you up-vote tells me your stand.

          • Nitricc

            ND; in case i got you wrong here Is for you.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238uZoQfbJI

          • NewDawn

            Selam Nitricc, you ought to expand more, what does my upvote tell you where i stand. I’am very interested as you came to that conclusion.

            I follow an inside out approach not an outside in approach, anti-eritrean elements that come from historical enemies doesnt faze me, but anti-eritrean elements inside eritrea very much cause me great displeasure.

          • Nitricc

            ND! I promise i will get back to you when i return o the states. I will explain then till then remember stand with your people. Your people have suffered immensely. don’t listened to the pretenders and people with grudges.

          • NewDawn

            Selam Nitricc, I listen to the people that are suffering and have gone through hardships, the intermediaries dont understand or simply do not sympathise with them, as their priorities are screwed. Remember eritrean people first!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatawian,
    The White House has dived into a conflict between Ethiopia and Egypt. The international diplomatic corps have to ask as to why it happened now when MZ could able to handle the issue with diplomatic acumen and sophistication.

    Issayas who seemed to have a stand with Ethiopia is an agent of Egypt, will eventually betray Ethiopia and will side with those countries that could offered him handsome of money. Saudi and UAE will side with Egypt and the White House. Ethiopia that became a diplomatic orphan in the last three years will remain standing by itself, unless they remove the incompetent Abiy Ahmed from power and find a leader who has diplomatic wherewithal to manage the crises of the Ethiopian dam. Ethiopians must be United on this issue in spite their differences to defend the interest of their country.

    • Brhan

      Selam A. Hidrat,
      IA is a liablity to PMAA. Now he and his top men are acused of crime against humanity in Sweden and will use PMAA for PR to discredit the accusation.

      Why are we taking Trump seriously? He is the man who lost leadership in the US. What did he say in every issue and what did we see on the ground? Nothing. Whether Trump said this or that or he will be in the office after Nov. 03, 2020 or not the issue of the dam has signficant players : Ethiopia , Sudan, and Egypt and the African Union. They have been negotiating for the past 5 years and I believe they will continue doing that and with a new leadership of Biden who wants to go back to the international law and rules , the dam will be built to benefit Ethiopians ( 70% of Ethiopians have no electricity) and won’t hurt the Sudan and Egypt.

      • Nitricc

        Brhan; you are not buying attention. Why do you think Ethiopia declared no fly zone over GRED? it didn’t came from nothing and Trump knew what he is talking about. think about it. if you can that is……

        • Brhan

          Nitricc
          On previous discussions , a week ago, I discussed with Horizon about a news that I read that PMMA has tabled back the issue of the Dam to the Ethiopian parliament. This was not made public by PMAA. The news indicated there might be a change of policy but Horizon said there won’t be. Trump knows that the parliament of Ethiopia is discussing the issue now under the umbrella of the US aid cut that Ethiopia needs much. This kind of words are said to affect decision makers, such as the members of the Ethiopian parliament. That is all.
          https://alkhaleejtoday.co/international/5076676/The-Ethiopian-Parliament-is-discussing-a-decision-on-the-Renaissance-Dam.html

          • Nitricc

            Brhan; my point is that Trump knows exactly what is going on. To begun with i didn’t agree with idea of GRED from the eco system aspects of it and about the futurity of dam.Any dam has 50 years of life and i don’t think the Ethiopians thought about it. They put the plan hastily right on the time of Arab spring. The dead midget got scared about the Arab spring and he put the motion of GRED as away of diverging the incoming danger of Arab spring. As of the plan, it was done by Ethiopia king. Now it is too late for Ethiopia to back out and it is their right. I stand with them. i know you stand with Egypt. why?

          • Brhan

            Nitricc
            I saw with my own eyes that you repented here at awate.com after the lecture that you got here also at awate.com about old aged suspicioun!

          • Nitricc

            What do you mean? i ask you why you support Egypt over Ethiopia. I thought you were a just man? again why are supporting Egypt? because they are Muslims? come clean.in the eyes of justice Ethiopia has every right to use here resources.NO?

          • Brhan

            So Trump’s religion has to do with the dam? This is how you think.
            I stand with Ethiopia. Because I want to see the poverty that I saw with my own eyes to be eradicated there. Satisfied now?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Brhan;so you stand with Ethiopia. Just to distinguished things and be clear that you know there is a difference between TPLF and Ethiopia, right? just to be in the clear and i will tell all you want to know.

          • Brhan

            Hi Nitricc, the same token..you also distinguish things and be clear that you know ther eis a differende between PF(DJ) and Eritrea, right?Just to be in the clear and I will tell all you want to know. For example , just before yesterday, ( before Trump’s big talk) Isayas Afeworki, Yemane Gebere Ab. Yemane Gebremeskel, Fozia Hashim, Filipos W/ Yohannes, Simon G/Dingle, and Osman Saleh were accused on crimes agaisnt humanity by Sweden.

          • Nitricc

            Brhan; i am not cought on that BS. what they are going to do? Don’t be distracted. Eritrea must change and i very aware of that Eritrea and PFDJ are two different things. If you ask me, Eritrea needs change but for the life of me, why would support TPLF thugs? Why? you must answer me, sir!

          • Brhan

            Nitricc,
            I told you many many many times. I do not support your ሕንጉጉ. And now can you quite your mind to sleep?

          • Nitricc

            Brhan okay hahahaha i will. Well, in a way i was getting my fix in on my addiction to awate-forum because i will be away for four weeks in to different four countries. the good thing is you all get a break from me. so i will see you when i come back if i came back. if not be kind to each other and never forget what Eritrean people went through Always stand with your people, always. So long…

          • Brhan

            OK Nitricc,
            Stay safe.

          • Consolation

            Nitro,

            All Tigrayans are now supporting Egypt. That is their nature. For 27 years they looted Ethiopia and were happy to be Ethiopians. Once they were kicked out of power, they flipped identity, ceased to be Ethiopians, and are now willing to prostitute themselves to anyone who would take them.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Cons,

            No single persons from horn is supporting Egypt…But now we are something had gone wrong from Dr. Abiy,,,time will tell us what is that… so what do you think about it? I think soon the crime will be exposed also from our dictator had hand on this game,,,let us see and we should now what….Be prepared gentle man to hear the secret…

            KS,,

          • Teodros Alem

            conso
            U talking about ur wish? All tigrayans? Maybe tplf cadres and some inferior elites will say what ever they think that offend the 3A gov and amhara people but I’m sure more than 99% of the ordinary people of tigrai will not support egypt, I’m sure the vast majority of ordinary tigraians feel the same way the other ethiopians feel.

          • Consolation

            Selam TA and KS,

            As our Sudanese friends say الفي بطنو حرقص براهو برقص ወይ ብትግርኛ “ሰራቕ ሞባእ ባዕሉ ይለፋለፍ”:: ኣነ ብዛዕባ ተጋሩ ኣብ ፌስቡክ ብዘንበብክዎ እንተጸሓፍኩ፥ ኢንታይ ቀንጥዩኩም ትስዕስዑ።

          • Teodros Alem

            conso
            I told u and.most probably u losers r the one made that up.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Cons,

            Don’t mix me with TA and we are not in the same boat at all..

            We are totally the opposite side and please read us both once again…don’t always trust what you read in face book. Try to understand me…

            What I am saying is really to be confirmed Dr. had took money from Trump to cover all crimes,,,,

            KS,,,

          • Consolation

            KS,

            ንስኻ ኣብዚ ዀንካ ንተጋሩ ትምጎተሎም፥ ንሶም ድማ ከምዚ ይብሉ።

            Mahari Yohans
            13h ·

            As usual ግብጺ ኣብ ባህርዳር ቤት ጽሕፈት ከፊታ ኣባይ ና ጣና ከተማሓድር እንተደልያ ሓገዝና ኣብ ቦትኡ እዩ 😀

            ኣልወሃ ምላሽ ቆቦ፣ ለማልሞ ምላሽ፣ ዓበደራፍዕን ኣብራሃ ጅራን ክንምልስ ክትተሓባበረና ጥራሕ ኢና ንሓታ!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Conso.

            Don’t exaggerate.. I didn’t defend for TPLF and do you know they are reading it…

            What I am saying is the Truth and the Truth only…They even are near to you when comes to stand…Time has shown us when you differ completely.. No I am saying it from the ego of revenge on EPLF and TPLF united days against us…I am saying it only form deep of my heart..I am completely living in now and now only…

            My friend live in now and you will be in peace and please don’t trust what you hear but trust the experience…

            KS

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Brhan,

        Whether this crazy guy stays in power or replaced by Biden this November, US has a big leverage to bring peace or induce war when its interest is affected in that region of ours. Yemen is a good example that became a victim of US policy in that region. Nothing can be ruled out when we talk about US policy.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Amanuel H.,

          Are you qualified to call anyone crazy?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear SK.

            If trump is not crazy, then who is? Just do you hear when talking in the video

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxvCd7af-c&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=PRIMEMEDIAWORLD

            KSM,

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam KS,

            Clearly, the EthIopians have done a poor job of lobbying for their case because they’re busy stealing from each other.

            Those in power think it is their God given right to steal. Former store keeper and later Derg chairman Mengistu reportedly said: You can steal but don’t get caught.

            Another thing, try to get rid of the bowl in hand beggar image; Egypt is not much better,

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear SK,

            Don’t try to generalize Ethiopians..Say it clearly the leadership of Dr.Abiy…There is a very different stand of where the people are and where this dirty leadership..And by the way have you seen the video link of Samuel today? Who is in that meeting?

            KS,,

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam KS,

            I know Ethiopia inside out. Corruption is the life blood of the culture.

            Each and every ethnic gangsters are to blame.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

      I have to give you a back handed compliment about your new found concern for Ethiopia’s standing by itself. I agree with your take of Issayas current love affair in Ethiopian politics.

      Let me tell you what is new:

      There is no difference between Biden and Trump when it comes to Ethiopia vs Egypt. Trump tells you how he feels in real time. Biden will take the same position but talks about it in a deceiving diplomatic niceties. The U.S blocked all funding for any dams on the Nile since John Kennedy. There are more Arabs than Ethiopians in the world and they have oil money too, for the U.S politicians to do or say anything else.

      In addition, Trump is busy with middle east peace and is showing all the Arabs that he is in their corner.
      Ethiopia will proceed with clear eyes and motivated manner to complete the project. It might even help for the “unity” of the nation.

      If there were any doubt among some “liberal” Ethiopian politicians about our closeness to China, this clear statement of Trump will be useful illustration in the future, of course, stated in diplomatic language.

      Mr. K.H

      • Berhe Y

        Hi KH,

        agree with your take of Issayas current love affair in Ethiopian politics.

        Isayas is through and through Ethiopianist. There is nothing further from truth. In the last 50 years he has Ben in power one way or another, can you think of a single example.

        He sided with the Arab dictators or autocrats to gain money when he needs to.

        Melles may have been good diplomat, but there is mugging he could have done, that would make Egypt to simply accept.

        Who ever the leader of Ethiopia happens to be, will have faced the same resistance.

        In the end there may be nothing Egypt can do, but with another president in Whitehouse, he may have convinced them to live with reality and assure them they will not be hurt and provide technical and other assistance for durable peace.

        Berhe

        • Consolation

          Selam Berhe,

          As usual you fail to see the larger picture when you declare that “Isayas is through and through Ethiopianist.” This is the problem of people who can’t see the forest for the trees.

          There are two kinds people, those who cannot see further than the extent of their immediate vision, and those who see far in time and space. Meles Zenawi was an unimaginative cripple, who lacked strategic vision, and was perennially driven by immediate tactical considerations. The reason that the TPLF is today is discarded piece of garbage is exactly because they never had a clear strategic vision other than an animal drive to use and exploit everyone around for their avaricious benefit. That does not take you far because sooner or later the exploited rise and get rid of their exploiters.

          Had Isaias been as vision-less as Meles, he would have argued that Ethiopia is a threat to Eritrea and would have worked to disintegrate it in 1991. What the consequences of that would have been in terms of human tragedies, not just to the people of Ethiopia but the whole region, is not hard to imagine. But Isaias Afwerki is a visionary extraordinaire. His vision was to reconstruct the Horn of Africa and turn it into a prosperous and peaceful region. He is not an Ethiopianist, a Sudanist, or a Somalist. That would be limiting his vision. Nobody worked harder than Isaias and Eritrea to see a free South Sudan not because Shaebia believes in disintegrating nations but because that was the only just solution. Eritrea worked hard to keep Somalia intact and paid dearly for its efforts. And Eritrea is doing all it can to keep Ethiopia intact. So, if you want to attach an appendage to him, Isaias Afwerki is a Horn Africanist. It is this simple fact that his vision-less detractors fail to understand.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            Ok I will give you that, he is Horn Africanist.

            But I wish he is Eritreanist first.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Hi Berhe,

            That
            is a very silly comeback. If Esu is not an Eritreanist, then who is?
            You, Oh God, just because you waste your life griping about him. Have a little humility!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            I was not being silly, in fact I am series. Paul Kigame, can claim he is a Rwandaist, because what he is able to achieve for the development of his country, improving the economy and betterment of the livelihood of his people.

            In Isayas Eritrea, not only the young and the able, but even the children and the elderly are leaving the country for exile.

            Here is a question for you? Do you the number of Eritreans return to Eritrea to settle / live compared to the number of Eritrean leaving / being exiled?

            And do you think if has anything to with Isayas and his policy?

            Please stop blaming the sun, the moon, the weyane, the UN, the US, the cow, the frame

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Berhe,

            If it had not been for Isaias, people like would not have had an Eritrea to gripe about. What have you done for Eritrea other than aide and comfort its enemies with your never-ending cries? Nothing. You and your ilk are losers. You were hoping to see Eritrea defeated by the TPLF thugs and when that hope evaporated, you are left with nothing but your treasonous history. You may cheat yourself with the garbage you dump, but Isaias Afwerki led the Eritrean people to victories twice.

            About Eritreans who leave Eritrea, so what. Where ever they go, Eritreans are living a better life than they would have lived in Eritrea. That is why they leave. They are seeking a better life. During the armed struggle, about a million Eritreans, almost 1/3 of its population, fled Eritrea. That did not stop those who stayed from liberating Eritrea. So don’t worry about Eritrea, those who have stayed will take care of themselves. Leave alone in this day and age, after the first world war, a large number of Scots left their homeland. Today, 75% of Scots live outside of Scotland. After the second world war, millions of Italians left Italy, Are Italy and Scotland worse off now because of that. Of course not. There are over 10,000 Eritreans in Angola and of which hundreds, if not thousands, are millionaires. Good for them!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            You answered my question, in today’s Eritrea:

            Eritreans are living a better life than they would have lived in Eritrea.

            So this is the legacy of Isayas Eritrea. He made the country a living hell for it’s population, with except few adaKerti like you.

            You are trying really hard to make him an angel and a victor and he is none of that. And please stop with this TPLF, weyane, none sense.

            Are the G-13 who wrote the letter to the president were also working for TPLF and want to see Eritrea defeated.

            When Dr, Haile Debass, a dean at medical school in university of California, whose annual salary at that time (based on the public record) was 450,000 US dollars said to the president “I know about education and medicine. I am ready to leave my job and serve Eritrea and Eritrean people in these areas that I know something about it”. He is just an example, but there are thousands and thousands of Eritreans who would like to make Eritrea a country where her citizens live in peace.

            Are you saying, Eritrea belongs to Isayas Afeworki and his adaKerti only and the rest they can leave and disappear.

            And this is what you call, for Eritrean to have a country they call Eritrea.

            Deep down you know that this will not last. If you so much in support of him and his policy, I dare you make your self public and stand on what you believe. But you are smart, you play both sides. You benefit while he is in power and you will be the first to come out and condemn when he is removed. You live a big a life LIE. Look your self in the mirror and answer to your own ghost. seeing young children (less than 8 years old) going and living the refugee camps of Tigray, deprived of education, childhood and peace is the Eritrea you created.

            Yes, Eritreans were fighting Ethiopian brutal regime and that’s why the 1/3 of Eritreans left behind to fight and to make living condition of the people better.

            Eritreans of the same family are not able to seat down and have a happy dinner today. This is the legacy of Isayas and this is the country he is presiding.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Berhe,

            You are living better than you would have done in Eritrea because you moved to a country where the standard of living is much higher than Eritrea, where the hard work for growing the economy has been done by others, in some case over centuries. A physician like the one you mention, who has millions in his bank account, may want to go back to Eritrea but do you think the tens of thousands of taxi-drivers or a dish-washers or security guards or welfare check recipients would be willing to go back to Eritrea to participate in the arduous and slow and back-breaking task of growing the Eritrean economy? Of course not. A welfare recipient in many of the European countries makes more money a month than a physician in Eritrea. In Switzerland, they have guaranteed income of thousands of dollars per month. There are about 20,000 Eritreans there (the official figure is 40,000, but half of them are not Eritreans). Do you think anyone of them is going to go back to Eritrea. As I said, don’t worry about Eritrea. Those who have stayed will take care of themselves. If you want to feel good, go back and join them in the hard task of building their nation. Otherwise, just shut up and stop collaborating with their enemies to erase their independence.

            ምምጽዳቕ ሕደግዎ። ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣይትወራዘዩሉ። ንፋለጥ ኢና፤

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            ንፋለጥን ፈረቓን፥ ንስኻን እቲ ንዓኻ ዝውክለካ ሸፍታ ቁርዲድ ኢኹም። ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ደሙ መጺኹም ዝይተጸግቡ ኢኹም።

            እቲ ዕላማኹም ድማ ኩሉ ሰብ ዝፈልጦ ኢዩ። ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ፡ ብዓይኒን ተግባርን ኢሰያስ ኣፈውርቂ ክልተ ነገር ጥራሕ እዩ ተፈጢሩ።

            1) ኣብ ሃገር እንተሃልዩ፡ ለይትን መዖልትን ብነጻ ጉልበትን፡ ክቡር ቀረጽን እንዳኸፈል ጉዙእ ኮይኑ ክነብር።
            2)ኣብ ወጻኢ ሃገር ዝነብር እንተኾይኑ ድማ ፡ ዝሰርሖን ዘጥረዮን ንብረት ፡ በቲ ኢሉ በቲ ንዓዲ ክአቱ እሞ ኢሰያስን ወምዳደኽቱን (ከም በዓል ከማኻ) ብዘይ ስክፍታ ክነብሩሉን እዩ።

            The Eritrean people have only obligation and have no rights.

            It’s really shame, if it wasn’t for the Eritrean people, support and dedication, the liberation wouldn’t have survived and it continue to survive.

            A country that has harnessed it’s diaspora to the fullest extent is Israel. Isayas Afeworki if he cares about the well being of the Eritrean people (not the mountains, the water) but the actual people, he would have encouraged Eritreans where ever they might be to help develop the country in their capacity, at least those who chose. But the Eritrean people, as I said above, only purpose in life is to live life under servitude.

            It’s just a matter of time but this shall pass, and you will die knowing your life you lived a life of lie.

            You will have nothing to show for…Isayas have nothing to show far..he will be erased from people memory and if he is remembered, only in the worst possible way.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Selam Berhe,

            ክንደይ ጸሓፍቲ: ቅድመኻ ዘይዓፈሩ
            ኣብ ዓዋተ ኮም: ጎበልል ዝነበሩ
            ክንደይ ዘይለፍለፉ: ከማኻ ዘይገዓሩ
            ትውጋሕ’ሞ ኢሎም: ዝደበሉ ዝፈከሩ
            ከም በዓል ዶተረ: በዓል ወዲ ሕድሩ
            ለፍሊፎም ለፍሊፎም: ኣናጹ ዝተቐየሩ
            ክትሕወሶም ኢኻ: ነቶም ዝተሳዕሩ
            ምስበርሃልካ: ኤርትራውያን ከምዘይስዓሩ።

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Consolation,

            It’s a telling how vengeful the regime is and what it’s end goal is. You don’t represent the Eritrean people.

            Milkeas Mihreteab, when he come to Washington DC in 2000, he held a seminar. One of the question he was asked is:

            Why would PFDJ/ HGDF does so much damage to the well being of the Eritrean people or something like that…

            He said

            ህግደፍ ምስ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ቂም ኣለዋ። Now you can replace HGDF with Isayas Afeworki..and that’s exactly what his problem is.

            For the Eritrean people we have reached the bottom and from now, we can only go up.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም በርሀ፡

            ብርሃነ ዝብሃል ኮመድያን ኣሎ፡ ርኢኻዮ ትኸውን። “ሰብ ክበልዕ ኣለዎ” እናበለ ኣብ ሓንቲ ኮመዲኡ ዝደጋግም።

            ብህግደፍ ኣረኣእያ ከኣ ኢሳያስ/ህግደፍ ክፍራህ ኣለዎ ከንቀጥቅጥ ኣለዎ ኮይኑና!

            ህግደፍ ክርክሩ ምስ መንግስታት ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ምስ ነፍሲ ወከፍ ሰብ እውን እዩ። ህግደፍ ክገጥም ኣለዎ፡ ክስዕር ኣለዎ። ክርፍስ ጥራይ! ብናይ ክርፍስ መንፈስ ዝኣምኑ ሰባት ዝተሃንጸ እዩ።

            ብዙሓት ዘይህግደፋውያን ከም ህግደፋውያን ብክርፍስ ዝኣምኑ’ውን መሊኦም እዮም። ምጥቃዕ ምጽራፍ፡ ንሶም ጥራይ ሓቀኛታት ዝመስሎም፡ ከም ህግደፍ ክፍርሁ ዝደልዩ መሊኦም እዮም።

            እዚ ጎዲሉ፡ ሓቅኻ ዝሓወይ፡ ሓቅኺ ዝሓፍተይ እንበሃለሉ ጊዜ ይምጽኣና!

          • Consolation

            Selam Haile,

            እንቋዕ ሓጎሰና። Your TPLF friends are about to be evicted out of all sovereign Eritrean territories. እንቋዕ ሓጎሰና። I have chosen for you this song “ሰዓረ” by Melake Abraham. I am, of course, assuming that you are not going bananas by this stellar Eritrean victory

            watch?v=fMA0z0LMnjs

          • Haile S.

            Selam Consolation,

            I watched ሰዓረ. I promise to dance it with you when those flag branding people shown in the video now scattered in all European cities will be able to return home safely and prosper in their homeland. The video is revealing. I lived in Massawa when it was lively full of ሑት selling inhabitants, tea shop filled to the brim of people with asymmetric chicks filled with tobacco with smiling faces. The mixture of tigrigna, arabic, local tigrayit added to the natural color and warmth of the city. I remember when several commercial ships docked there, machinery and laborers were all taken and part of the ships would wait impatiently for days. Now for the last 20 something years, it is as empty as you see it in the images of the video.

            Don’t throw your friends on me. Do whatever you want to do with these EPLF’s old pals (TPLF) who were given every access to Eritrea before 1998 and were able to use this knowledge to shut Eritrea off. But this time please please learn to prioritize your people. Learn from your mistakes. Have trust in your people, not on foreigners. Becareful not to go back and hug your old pals, ኣመል ምስ መግነዝ!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi, Hailat,

            I 2nd you..But today is not weekend..I hardly found it…Ha Ha

            KS,,

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኮኸብ፡

            እዞም ጠቢባን ኤለክትሮናት ብG5 G6 ትጻፍዑ
            በዞም ንሕና G1 ዝብሃል ዘይንፈልጥ ክትብልዑ?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hailat,

            Do you mean D3 D5? Do you mean an illusion and Matrix world? Ha ha ..I like it…more poems please…

            KS,,

          • Consolation

            Ato Haile,

            Before the restrictions due to Covid-19, tens of thousands used to visit their homeland every year. And once the pandemic recedes, we will see the number only grow as Eritrea, tirumphant over its enemies, begins to accelerate its development activities which have been held hostage for almost 20 years. The stars are aligning. It is, of course, the worst that can happen for those who banked on defeat of Eritrea. But that is their misfortune.

            ንናብ ዩሩፕ ዘሎ: ኣይትመጻደቐሉ
            ኣመሪካ ካናዳ ንዘሎ: ኣይትሕመመሉ
            ዓዲ ዓረብ ንዘሎ: ኣይትቖዝመሉ
            ኣየድልዮን’ዩ: ንፈልጠልካ ዝብሉ
            እታ ተዋጽኦ: ይፈልጣ’ዩ ባዕሉ
            ብጀካ ከዳዓት: ብወያነ ዝምወሉ
            20 ዓመት፥ ኣንጻር ህዝቦም ዝሸቀሉ
            ክምለስ ንዝደለ: የለውን ዝኽልክሉ::

          • Haile S.

            ኣቶ Consolation,

            Nice try Condoli ወዲ ሰምበሊ፡ ወዲ ዛ ዓባይ ጎልጎሊ። You managed to find a video of YPFDJ’s swarming Massawa, huddling on the shallow water, not really swimming. The same old buildings, same sand, even the same irritating Jellyfish, I can imagine. This was a regular weekend activity in the old days that we were hoping to change fundamentally and elevate the city. Nothing has changed in the last 45 years. Thank anyway.

            ውር’ድ ምስ በልካ ካብ ደንጎሎ
            ማይ ኣጣል ሰጊርካ ምንኩሎ
            ቀጽል ረጊጽካ ሕጥምሎ

            ትበጽሕ ዕዳጋ ብዕራይ ኣማተረ
            ሸኽ ዓብደል ቃድር ምስ ርእሲ ምድረ
            የንብዓኒ ክዝክሮ ከለኹ ሙቐት ፍቕሪ ዝነበረ

          • Consolation

            Ato Haile,

            Take a break, enjoy Eritrea’s triumph for now. ዘንብዓካ ዘሎ ተስፋ’ለኒ ስዕረት ወያነ ከይከውን:: ባጽዕ ኣብ ግዜ ደርጊ ዓንያ ኢኻ ሓዲግካያ ወጺእካ። እቶም ኔቪን፥ ጦርሰራዊትን፥ ረፋዓት ተጋሩን ካብ ባጽዕ ከይዶም ኢልካ ኣይትጕሀ። ሕጂ ኩሉ ተቛሪጹ ዝነበረ ክጅምር ኢዩ። ንዓመታ ንኣብነት ናይ ኮሉሊ ዕደና ምስጀመረ፥ ወደብ ባጽዕ ሓደ ምልዮን ቶን ፖታሽ ኣብ ዓመት ሰደድ ክትርኢ ኢያ። ኢዚ ኣብዛ ቪደዮ ዘሎ ገዛውቲ ብሰራሕተኛታት ክመልእ ኢዩ።

            watch?v=hzY7xc9s2vA

            ንስኹም ኣብዚ 20 ክትቍዝሙ ከልኹም፥ ህግደፍ ይሰርሑ ኔሮም። ኢዚ ኣብዛ ትስዕብ ቪድዮ ዘሎ ህንጻታት ንፋብሪካታት ዝተሰርሐ ኢዩ።

            watch?v=S2zQ4sjRhHk

            ንቐረብ ማይ ባጽዕ ዝኸውን ኣብ ኤርትራ ዝዓበየ ዲጋ ኣብ ጋሕተላይ ይስራሕ ኣሎ። ንስኹም ትመጻደቑ፥ ኤርትራውያን ከኣ ይሰርሑ። ደመኛ ጸላኢና ምስተቐብረ፥ ምሉእ ዓቕምና ኣብ ቍጠባና ስለዝኸውን ነፍስኻ ምኽኣል ዝብል መርሓ ሻዕብያ ከዛርበኩም ኢዩ።

          • Desbele

            ሰላም መጸናንዒ
            “ባጽዕ ኣበይ ኣላ? ሉል ኣይኮነት ገለ ኣይኮነት። ሞይታ።” ቃላት ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ እየን።
            ባዕሉ ቀታሊ ባዕሉ መርድኢ።

          • Consolation

            Moderators,

            Why did you redact the youtube video addresses. They are not hot links. Anyone who wants to view the video has to copy and paste it in his browsers address line which takes him to google search. How does that violate your posting guideline. It seems to me you don’t like to see any video of a vibrant Eritrea. Pathetic!

          • Consolation

            Moderators,

            A youtube video id is not a link. It is just an id. What next? Suppose I give the search terms of how to find the video so that a user can search for the video by entering those words in the youtube search line? For example, by entering the two words massawa and construction one may find one of the videos you have redacted. Are you going to redact that too? You are becoming more ridiculous. The only reason you redacted them is because it pains you to see videos that show Eritrea in a positive light. That I claim is pathetic. I will tell you what, I am voluntarily withdrawing because I consider the time I spend here as a waste of my time. Good bye!

          • Consolation

            Selam Berhe,

            Isn’t it telling that you are quoting Milkyas a fat, worthless traitor. There is an old song by Alamin Abdellatif which goes “ቀደም ኔሩ: ቀደም ኔሩ: ክብረትካ ምሕላው …”:: ሕጂ ጸሓይ ዕራርቦ ኣሕ ምባል ዋጋ የብሉን። 20 ዓመት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ: ብተጋሩን ሓያላን ኣሸቀልቶምን ንሞት ተፈሪዱ: መዘና ዘይብሉ ናይ ምርብራብ ቃልሲ ኣካይዱ ስዒሩ ኣብ ዝጽምብለሉ ዘሎ ግዜ፡ እቶም ምስ ጸላእቱ ኰንኩም ዝወጋእክሞ ከሓድቲ ፍንጭራዕ እንተበልኩም እንትሮፍ ከምቲ ኣምሓሩ ዝምስልዎ “ከወደቁ በኋላ መንፈራገጥ ትርፉ መላላጥ” ነፍስኹም ካብ ምልሕጻጽ ተምጽእዎ ለውጢ የሎን።

            20 ዓመት: ንጸላኢ ካብ ምዕሳብ
            ኣይመሓሸን’ዶ፡ ህዝብኻ ምሕብሓብ
            እንተዘይከኣልካ፡ ኣእዳውካ ምእካብ
            ታይ ይጠቅም ሕጂ፡ ምሕንጣጥ ምዝራብ
            ክድዓትካ ክተመኽኒ፡ ንኻልኦት ምስባብ
            ቀደም ኢዩ ኔሩ፡ ክብረትካ ምዕቃብ

            I am inviting you to listen to this beautiful song “ሽም ኢስክትሽም፡ ሽም ኢስክትሽም፡ ኣንታ ኢዚ ዓወት ክንደይ ይጥዕም” because reliable sources are indicating that the Tigrayan settlers are about to be evicted from Badme and all sovereign Eritrean lands. I am assuming that you have no objection to this Eritrean victory.

            watch?v=th8sfsDd7D8

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi Brother Berhe.

            This man is I think one of the leaders and stares of PFDJ.. .It is better to ignore him…

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            During the “Ethiopian brutal regimes” Eritreans prospered and achieved higher. These include the ones swarmed Ethiopia in every corner and those who stayed in Eritrea.
            ያሳለፍነው ዘመን ደስታን ያየንበት
            ተመልሶ ቢገኝ አሁን ምን አለበት
            ( ጥላሁን ገሠሠ)

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው፡

            ተመልሶ እንዴት ብሎ ይምጣ
            መለስ የሚባል ሥር መሰረቱ መንቅሮ ስላስወጣ

            የታጋዩ ድምጽ ይጮሃል ከገደል ማሚቶ
            ዛሬም ትግሉ ኣፋፍሙት ይላል ቅንጭላቱ እይ’ለ ተመ’ቶ

          • NewDawn

            Selam consolation, I wish I could down vote you a million times, what a brainwashed moron you are.

          • Consolation

            NewDawn,

            What does it matter if an idiot down votes my post or not. If you have any objection, write it down. Down voting if for morons who cannot express themselves. It is electronic graffiti which signifies nothing. You smell like a Tigrayan. And I hear that the average IQ in Tigray is less than 60.

          • NewDawn

            Selam Consolation, so your daddy figure got outsmarted and cornered like a rat in adi halo, by tigrayans with iq less than 60. Do you see my point, i think we deserve better if we go by your assumptions.

            Also its well known isaias is of tigrayan heritage, how can our leader take us anywhere let alone the horn of africa with an iq less than 60.

          • Consolation

            NewDawn,

            So you admit that you are a dirty Tigrayan. What are you doing here? Go save your people from grass-hoppers!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            NewDawn
            DIA is a terrible Tigrayan
            Aboy Welwel was an excellent Tigrayan
            Adey Medhin Berad [DIA’s grandma] is a good Tigrayan
            Wedi Gerahutu is terrible Tigrayan
            Semere Ruusom is a terrible Tigrayan
            Beyene Ruusom is a terrible Tigrayan
            Hagos Kisha & Monkey are terrible Tigrayans
            Bruno of Japan is terrible Tigrayan
            General Filipos, Manjus, Teclay, Saba [DIA’s wife], colonel Tesfalidet, Teame Goitom, Simon G/dingil, Samuel China, etc. are terrible Eritreans
            Papagalos Sofia, Gidewon, Elias A., Amanuel B., Sirak B., Alazar A., Michael bar Torino’s, etc. are terrible Eritreans.
            and many more…

          • NewDawn

            Selam Mehandis. I’m not too sure what your point exactly is? These peoples heritage do not matter too much, rather what their interests are.

            Although its confusing to see pfdj goons accuse and condemn people as tigrayans and denote them as evil creatures, while pfdj is full of them.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam NewDawn,

            I get amused by such comments, specially by highlanders, that Tigrians are all the bad Eritreans. The President of Eritrea is a Tigrian. If a scientist from Adigrat cures cancer and becomes famous, he/she will automatically morphed in to an Eritrean overnight.

            A joke that actually happened:

            In early 70s a couple of Eritreans told me to get their digs in:

            …when we do bad things and we get caught, we say we are Ethiopians.
            We do good things and when people ask where we are from, we say we are from Eritrea.
            In the last 50 years not much has changed, has it.

            Mr. K.H

          • David Samson

            Selam KH,

            Most, if not all, African clans and tribes have their own Interahamwes. All you need to create one is to coin and come up with a mythical narrative.

            Many highlanders are not immune from this cancer which might
            consume us in flames.

            The Rwandans always blame and curse the Belgians for their
            misfortunes, but I do not know whom the highlanders could blame.

            I know many Eritreans of Tigrayans blood have given their ultimate lives to Eritrea. Do not you think for someone who has not contributed a thing to Eritrea could claim the moral high ground? These zombies are not better than their PFDJ counterparts.

          • Consolation

            Selam KH,

            What you seem to be ignorant about is the difference between culture and DNA. What we say about Tigrayans is about their culture. You are not going to deny that cultural environment plays a huge part in the personality of an individual. If you raise a Tigrayan child in the ghetto, then he will be, more likely than not, indistinguishable from his neighbours. If you raise him in Eritrea, he will be an Eritrean with Eritrean values. If you raise him in Tigray, where lying, back-stabbing and theft are considered desirable attributes for survival, then he is very likely to imbibe these odious cultural traits and grow up to be what we saw over 27 years in Ethiopia, from Tigrayans in all walks of life. There were, for God’s sake, Tigryans who had no shame to go to Ethiopia to buy some of the properties stolen from Eritreans.

            One marvels at their creativity at looting Ethiopia over the 27 years. Take GERD, for example. It was meant to be the insurance policy for Tigrayan dominance of Ethiopians. Scared by the Arab spring, Meles and his cohorts invented GERD primarily as a means of distracting Ethiopians. What better way than to create a crisis with Egypt and lead the sheep with impunity. Then they made Ethiopians raise billions through bonds and salary cuts for the project. They put their illiterate generals on top to loot the monies and drag the project interminably. The dam required a huge supply of cement. So all cement was supplied by their factories. They were swindling Ethiopians a hundred different ways. And what we say is that they are culturally moulded to behave that way. Isn’t it Meles who famously said that theft is ok as long as you don’t get caught!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat NewDawn,
            Actually, you have answered my point on your 2nd paragraph.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kim,

        I know that we see eye to eye on many issues than on issues we differ. And you are one of the few who are decent and respectful whom I am delightfully engage with. You deserve credit on this.

        I was a big fun of Ethiopia on the hydroelectric politics when the government initiated the Renaissance Dam project, and I am still. I believe the Dam will be the uniting factor of Ethiopian politics at this crucial time, until you find a leader who can stand bold against the pressures of geopolitics of the great powers. Meles did challenged them with his sophisticated diplomatic excellence.

        Besides, Ethiopians must be proud for funding this great project from the pocket of their citizens to avoid foreign assistance that comes with its pressure. Big time! You must also be prepared for any eventuality of military aggression from Egypt. The future livelihood of Ethiopian people depends on this project.

        Regards

        • Abi

          Selam Ato Amanuel
          No , you were not a “big fun” of Ethiopia when the government initiated GERD.
          How do I know this? It is easy for someone like Ras Abi who paid full attention when the big guns at Awatenation communicate.
          About four years ago you asked
          1) who is funding the GERD?
          2) How far is it completed?
          You showed us that you had no idea whatsoever about the GERD.
          The good thing was SGJ came to answer your earth shattering questions. He told you that GERD is funded by Ethiopians and it was 70% completed. ( that’s what the government told us at that time.)

          Now, all of a sudden you became a supporter of GERD from the beginning.
          You lied now or you lied four years ago. Anyway, you are lying.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            You have the audacity to make up a staff from the air like Trump and PFDJites in this forum. Bring them up my comments if I said them something to that effect in this forum. Otherwise, it is “lies of influence” aka “character lie” intend to blackmail as personal vendetta. Anyway you took it as a habit. Have the courage to bring my comments that you allegedly accusing me. If you bring them I will engage you, if you don’t, it is GIGO left for the street gangs.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            You don’t have to engage me at all. You have rendered yourself useless, liar and a hired gun for the disgraced woyane thugs.
            You know what you have said.

      • Samuel

        Selam Kim Hanna,
        The treasonous deal on the GERD dam was negotiated between Abiy and Egypt in Russia in October 2019. Believe it or not Abiy has agreed the GERD dam to be managed by Egypt, this negotiation took place without Foreign Minister Gedu Andargachew in Russia, it was later on Gedu got involved into the negotiation. After TPLF exposed the scope of the deal, Abiy admin withdrew from signing the agreement scheduled in Washington DC. When you get a chance please listen the following video.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWhkNKoj8CQ

        Thanks,

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Samuel,

          The truth is going to be exposed…what ever the coverage is going on..

          KS,,

          • Samuel

            Selam Kokhob Selam,
            I completely agree, it will happen soon. It’s the last minutes of the 11th hour.

            Thanks,

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Samuel,

          I watched most of the youtube. Your statement of “Believe it or not…” I am at this moment in the NOT camp. I keep watching the slow progress of the Dam and so far so good. I don’t think there is an Ethiopian citizen that would agree to have Egypt manage the Dam let alone a public official. There are so many “newer” allegations out there I stopped looking at them.

          The Dam has some water behind it now and hopefully next year it would have some more. I think the train has left the station.

          Mr. K.H

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear KM,

            I think I have to disagree on this with you…Just wait some days and you will have to agree with me and Samuel,,,You will make sure of the all the allegations..okay now, at this time we all be defending the case but what you are witnessing is correct…

            KS,,

          • Brhan

            Hello KH,
            I am starting to understand from your comment above ( correct me if I am wrong) if the issue of Egypt managing the filling of the dam with water is in Trump’s deal that he is talking about and that Ethiopia left from the deal so he has to cut the aid?

      • Saleh Johar

        Kim,
        I think you mean the Arab governments ! If that is the case, then the governments are not even with their people. A bunch of totalitarian regimes crushing their people. Trump or any other western governments in neither with the Arab or Ethiopian people. It’s their own games played at the expense of the people. And that denied the entire region stability for over a century and I have no doubt instability and violence will continue until the people are freed from their own despicable rulers.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Saleh Johar,

          It is fair a assessment. The U. S President openly suggesting the Dam should have been blown up by Egypt is a stunning statement.

          The former Egyptian President conducting a meeting “unknowingly” broadcasting it live with all sorts of plan for the same objective pales by comparison.

          I think it helps Ethiopia to perk up and see the world as it is and not as it appears. I think our relationship with China should and must be strengthened. In a sense it is better to see it this way rather than hear it from a State Department spokesperson with a scrubbed and smoothed out deceitful statement.

          Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Kim,

            Can you say the policy of the US government under president Obama was the same as it is today?

            I think, Ethiopia really needs to assess it’s long term development policy and it needs to focus on self reliance and internal development. It needs to implement the model of it’s successful airline business across all sectors of the country economy focusing on self reliance. Aid should be limited to education, health care and basic development needs.

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y.,

            I don’t think Obama would say it in a million years. However, if chips are down and if Obama has to choose sides between Ethiopia and Egypt….UAE, Saudi Arabia etc, I am not too sure.

            Nations are like animals, they think in terms of what is good for them.
            Self reliance is a good policy as far as it goes but in the real world of interdependence one must keep options available. There is no permanent enemy or friend in this dogy dog world, they say.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            Ethiopians will have many things you could regret of, when you divert from the “developmental state” which gave you a fresh economic development that could make you one of the tiger countries in Africa. Unfortunately, you nib it in the bud. You let your country to the economic scavengers of the west. Many regrets will soon murmur on our ears.

            Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Dr .Amanuel,

            Really, you are right. “….economic development that could make you one of the tiger ” I like it Amuni..what positive information by just including the negative advice …just by “….soon murmur on our ears.”

            Dear Amuni..we should stand united toward victory,,Don’t think so ….. as you use to write in your articles to put it the entire horn an/d east Africa…

            KS,,

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            The damage done by trump to the USA in all fields is huge, and Biden if elected may not be able to correct all. It will take decades for the US to gain back what it has lost under trump, due to his ignorance, arrogance and incompetence.
            Today China seems to have controlled Covid-19, when the USA is going to see a new and maybe even a worse surge, China’s economy is the only one that is returning gradually to its pre-covid-19 situation, while the US and Europe are still struggling.
            The US is showing all manifestations of a country that is getting old politically, socially, and economically, thus losing its fervor, similar to the roman empire before its collapse. What one sees is regression to its worst past with social unrest and right-wing extremists and white supremacists having the upper hand. The US may not collapse as other powers did in history, nevertheless, it will stop being the leader at the world stage similar to the once great British empire.
            Within a generation or two China will be on par the US economically and technologically. It has already put in place a big plan for broader influence over the region, Asia, Africa and beyond. At least for the time being it comes with a different recipe to that of the white European supremacist colonialists of the past, i.e. the philosophy of give and take. European colonizers were robbing and killing, and left behind the people poor and destitute and did everything in their power to keep them in that miserable situation forever.
            At least up to now China seems the only economic partner with a possible better outcome for Africa. Africa was made to remain poor and backward, and the kleptocratic african leaders were made their best friends, because they served the interest of white present-day neo-colonialists.
            Therefore, indeed countries like Ethiopia and Africa as a whole, should plan to work with China in the future. I don’t think that they have anything more to expect from the West other than war and destruction, as in Iraq, and elsewhere. The West is responsible for the crisis we see all over the world.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,

            I understand and concur for the most part on he 2nd half of your post. I know you don’t like me to bring it here, but Meles in one of his policy positions, stated that he will work with all nations to the furthering of his goals. China, Korea being the main helpful countries.
            When asked about the U.S, he said he has excellent working relationship based on the view that we work together when our interest merge. When the interests differ, he will execute the interest of Ethiopia. That was the case for him to go after the Islamic courts (Al shabab) in Somalia. I know I am touching a nerve here, so take it easy.

            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            I don’t think that you are touching any nerves. The problem of mine or any other ethiopian or the ethiopian government, which i do not represent, in my opinion, is the policy of the incumbent american administration that is bullying world governments. It is destroying the good relations of the USA with the world thus alienating it from the world community and driving away old friends, even europeans. The american nation is no way the problem. The ethiopian government said that itself. It is not the relationship of ethiopia and america, which has been there for more than a century, that is in question, but the behavior of the trump administration.
            Working with a government that is ready to work with ethiopia is nothing new, and it was not introduced by mz. Ethiopian governments before the derg were doing the same thing whether it concerned the USA, Britain or Russia.

      • Nitricc

        I have to give you a back handed compliment about your new found concern for Ethiopia’s standing by itself. I agree with your take of Issayas current love affair in Ethiopian politics.

        Kim I never thought you get fooled. The man cares about the caner naming of TPLF, he could careless about your Ethiopia. I used to think you are smart. He is the biggest Agzian and TPLF lover ever. how could you be that fooled?
        PMAA has one option and to do list, destroy TPLF, they are ticks and censer. They need your blood to survive and i am sad to see you this way. Like i have always said, the biggest problem of Ethiopian people is not distinguishing enemy from foe. wake up.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Nitricc,

          A) You abscess too much about TPLF. B) Your misunderstandings of my posts, not entirely your fault, causes you to jump not knowing where you land.
          C) Come back safely after your travels in this Pandemic era.
          D) I miss the most, the antidote of Nitricc, Hayat Adem,

          Mr. K.H

      • David Samson

        Selam KH,

        Good points!

        Many Africans have built walls of misconceptions on how American’s
        politics work.

        They tend to favour the democratic party. Why? The party is seen as leaning to the left of politics and gives the wrong impression as an
        internationalist, so one hopes that the party is sympathetic to developing
        countries.

        Let’s look at each part’s records when it comes to Africa:

        Rwanda genocide was carried under the watchful eye of Clinton. Not only the admin knew the Extremist Hutu were about to commit the most horrendous crime against humanity but had obstructed the work and effort of the UN peacekeeping force under the command of General Dallier.

        When it comes to the home front. Clinton sent a kid to mediate between the warring parties. This cavalry attitude had cost hundreds of lives.

        George W Bush did a lot of humanitarian aid and development to Africa than the hot air Obama. Obama only contribution to Africans is instructing them to legalise gay marriage.

        As I made points in the past, it is my preference for the admin that keeps its nose where is it: home front. Nothing good comes out from the Americans heavy handing of world affairs. Both parties are the same, but Trump is the only and last President who said, I do not want to be the police of the world. The world for the first time in decades seen less conflict as the result of the Americans have focused on home.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam David Samson,

          I don’t disagree with you in general. One of the glaring let downs of Ethiopia by the U.S occurred during the Jimmy Carter administration. Among the crucial decision they made was they refused to ship armament Ethiopia paid for during H.S era, when the Somalia regime was preparing to invade Ethiopia in the late 70s. The timing could not have been worse. Mengistu pointed out to the fact and went to Russia and China whole sale to save the country in the nick of time. I will never forget that and no Ethiopian should forget that either.

          I have to bring Haile Selassie again and his description of the American status and involvement in other countries affairs.

          After the 2nd world war and our coming out of the Italian invasion, the Ethiopian nobility and technocrats were discussing as to who among the world powers would be better to lean on in the future.
          Prominent advocates chose Great Britain, some including H.S chose the French as being more reliable. However, most chose the U.S as being the future power and finally that view carried the day.

          Haile Selassie reluctantly joined in by encapsulating his concern and observation of the U.S. His one word description of the leaders of the U.S was …”AYAWQUBETEM”. That says it all.
          I hope someone like Ras Abi would give us the full meaning of that word.

          Mr. K.H

          • Aligaz G

            KH,

            Seriously speaking HSI was quite eager to work with the US after restoration. In fact he ended up becaming much closer to the Americans than he was ever to the Europeans. So close that he was one of the few leaders consulted before the China rapprochement. But by 1974, with satellite technology plus Sadat’s move towards the Americans, he became expendable. Reminds me of the Shah who also became expendable. Interestingly after the Revolution the Americans have never really trusted Addis Ababa and vice versa even after Henze essentially installed Meles on the throne. Of course Trump has offended most countries allied with the America so no surprises that Ethiopia is now his target.

  • sara

    selam all…. the big news in the region is the Sudan recognition of the Jewish state,
    we call it La- Te”Tbea…. the three NO… NO .. NO of the Khartoum declaration is not any more. I dont know what implication this will have to the ongoing political process in sudan and our region.

    • David Samson

      Selam Sara,

      So, Sudan making a relation is a Haram while Sudan’s masters are not.

      If this revelation shocks you, I am afraid, much more is on its way.

      The Saudis will also come on the board sooner. Trump’s re-election
      will be speeding the Saudi’s decision, though Biden election might throw
      unexpected twist. It is highly unlikely the Sudanese had picked the courage to make their own decisions without the green light— go-ahead— by their masters.

      If you can’t beat them you might as well join them, comes to my mind.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Abi, Abay, Horizon and all,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxvCd7af-c&feature=youtu.be

    I just heard the US president talking to the Israeli PM and the Sudan PM with regards to the Abay dam.

    I think every Ethiopian and even other Africans in the US should mobilize, take vacation or what ever that you need to do, and campaign against the US president.

    You have to shock the system, all 1 million of your should come out and demonstrate.

    If this guy gives them the go ahead, this could turn into ugly situation for the whole region.

    Berhe

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Brother Berhe Y.

      We should all stand united and show our solidarity when comes to this Abay dam…
      .
      And we should unite leaving those differences aside..I was following the subject with all Ethiopians and are ready to stand for together make united demonstration those following days.before the election day..Yes and that will be done tomorrow as far as I know through out US..

      That will be the best to let Americans agree…Very carefully done and let even if US presidents are that one or this the difference will not change the stand. Regarding this Abay dam republican or democratic the game is to make Americans accept the Blue Nile issue…and I think the space to do so will be narrow….

      We should win and carefully do it..

      KS…

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat Kokhobay/Berhe
        What was the reason again for DIA’s visit the Dam? Interesting.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear MM.

          I am not sure but you know that Dr.Abiy is doing it to be accepted by all. Which the result is against him…that a big mistake committed by this soft politician…You know what? That is the game played by both dedicators to make sure the people are under them,,Leave this one said and think of the Blue Nile issue for now… This is very important those days..

          KS..

      • Teodros Alem

        kokhob
        What different does it make if u show solidarity or not? Nothing.
        If u buy bond , it means something, other than that u not even ethiopian, besides eritrea representative, pia shows solidarity by going over there.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear TA,

          I will not accept that is I am only Eritrean….Please note that truth I was grown up in Bahirdar and half of my brothers and sisters are still living to near to Blue Nile..I am very attached like Tana and Blue Nile..

          And how do you know that I didn’t buy bond? PIA didn’t show up during start of the project,,,,This show your mind…

          KS,,

          • Teodros Alem

            kokhob
            I know u have instability issue but in ethiopia like any countries, there is citizenship laws and dual citizenship is not allowed, to be citizen, one of ur blood parent has to be from ethiopia, originated from inside ethiopia border, that is the only way to be citizen. If the law reinforced accordingly, even bereket simom or tsehaye yohannes can’t be citizen, let alone u elf…..whatever u r.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear TA.

            Don’t worry about it. All you have to do is think of your people that is all…. and your people needs you now..Ethiopia is never been such trouble and needs us all. Now is the time our chance to show that we need each other..And what did I say only —- we should give our voice …..we should unite and be in demonstration in USA…and in all countries,,,, let Americans now that we need our Nile project finished…..

            KS..

    • Teodros Alem

      bare
      The US President talking to Israel PM about sudan and nile dam.
      And don’t get excited because he will not be president in few month.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear TA.

        What if you are saying is not correct..Imagine he is voted? The chance is not predictable like when 2016 we all weren’t think of he will won in that very critical moment. But, he won and he was playing very easily,,,Now, just there is half chance of winning and why care and make our Nile blow up by Egyptians? Just go by half chance and do your job…don’t vote for trump and go for demonstration at the same time..

        KS,,

    • Selam Berhe Y.

      Thanks a lot for the link.
      This guy is a lost soul. Ignorant, ill-educated and arrogant, a pathological liar, a bully who doesn’t accept to be contradicted and he always wants to have his way, right or wrong. He is corrupt and he evades tax, a racist and a lover of dictators. A buffoon who found himself in the most prestigious office by mistake, and a racist, misogyny, etc. This is not only me who says these about him, but the whole world.

      He has no idea about a river and a dam. He showed his ignorance by saying that the dam will stop the flow of the river, which amounts to saying that Ethiopia will flood itself with the dam.

      He said that he had prepared a deal for them, ethiopia and egypt, which Ethiopia broke and should not have done so. That was the deal that was against ethiopia’s interest and it was meant to serve the interests of egypt, so that his bs “deal of the century” to sell Palestinians to israel with the help of some arab dictators would succeed, so that he gets the NPP, which is his unfulfilled dream, and he hates ethiopia, because she spoiled it for him.

      “Ethiopia will never see the aid money again” unless she does his bidding, which is blackmailing Ethiopia. He can keep his money, which is not his own, of course. It is the american taxpayers’ money to which he contributed only about $750 in two consecutive fiscal years, and he didn’t pay a cent for more than a decade, as we read in the news.

      The most outrageous of all is giving direction indirectly to what egypt should do, more or less saying, “blow the dam”. “Egypt is not going to live that way and it is a dangerous situation”. He has become the spokesperson of his favorite dictator, el sisi. Moreover, he said “how did you (egypt and sudan) let them build the dam in the first place”, which means that his administration is with them if they want to destroy it today. It is pathetic, it is a shame, and it comes from a sick mind.

      As the president of the USA, who insinuates that egypt should blow the ethiopian dam is misuse of his office, which he doesn’t deserve, and he is acting like a terrorist. Egypt will blow up that dam, unless ethiopia succumbs to what he has concocted for egypt, is a street talk by a president who has no idea about the responsibility that comes with his office.

      This man is dangerous and he shouldn’t be given a second term, because he is dangerous not only for Ethiopia, but for the USA and the whole world. If the world faces a nuclear holocaust, it will be at the hands of such people, who are ignorant, arrogant, bully, narcistic and paranoid. I hope this could be a wake-up call for those ethiopian-americans who are ready to vote for him in the coming elections.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Brother Horizon,

        We all know he is dangerous. Imagine, he is given the 2nd term to lead just.
        Imagine no man knows if that will happen or not..even all Ethiopians didn’t chose him…That may have a little chance but that is not also predictable as you know it..then what will happen? What I am saying is just imagine and make reserve and continue to fight,,

        But, will you think president el sisi stay in power? No, I don’t think so..He will be gone soon,,

        I don’t think single Ethiopian will be voting in for the advantage of this crazy man (Trump),,but as agreed the will come for peaceful demonstration. What do you think Horizon?

        KS,,

        • Selam Khokeb Selam,

          The Blue Nile is a gift from God to Ethiopia. Forget the rhetoric “Egypt is the gift of the Nile”, which has been interpreted by egyptians as if it means that the nile belongs solely to egypt and no other country, especially the source countries have no rights over it whatsoever. First, it was the british who filled the egyptian minds with the myth that the nile belongs only to them, and now trump is repeating it a hundred years later.

          Something is going wrong with the USA when they allow such a guy as trump to become their leader. It shows the decline of this great nation. It will be a shame on the people if they repeat the same mistake by giving him their vote for the second time, and they will be equally responsible for every dangerous situation he may create in the future.

          The world has become an unpredictable place. When the far right, fascists, nazis and white supremacists are having the upper hand, you can’t be sure about the future. In a normal world people like trump, el sisi and many others should have been kept far from power. El sisi may go, but no one knows who will replace him. Another dictator, a religious fanatic or what? When a dictator lover such as trump is in the white house, el sisi may stay in power or whoever comes after him in egypt most probably, will be another military dictator. Don’t be surprised if trump brings a military dictator through the back door in sudan. He hates democracies, because they signify weaknesses as much as he is concerned. That is why he is infatuated with dictators.

          The least ethiopians should do is to come out en masse, both at home and in the diaspora, and demonstrate condemning his outrageous intervention against ethiopia’s interests in support of egypt. In addition, ethiopian-americans should also feel the obligation to ethiopia and outvote trump who is not only against the interest of their country of origin, but could also be against her sovereignty at some stage.

      • Consolation

        Horizon,

        Trump has this habit of speaking belligerently; It is part of what he calls the “art of the deal”. You may remember his threat, from the UN podium, to destroy North Korea. At the time, a lot of people who took his threat seriously, were very worried. But instead of destroying NK, he has become their best ally. He knows full well that Egypt has neither the capability or the stomach to destroy the dam. In my view, he is trying to scare the Ethiopian government to come to the table and give him the opportunity to claim that he has solved this issue. I think the Ethiopian government should issue a diplomatically worded strong statement of rejection. Trump is a showman and will forget about this threat after he gets reelected, which I am predicting he will do. For those who are hoping Trump to lose, I say the Democrats or Demorats blew it when they selected Biden for their candidate, a corrupt, compromised and senile politician.

        • Selam Consolation,

          I agree with you that Biden is a wrong choice. Nevertheless, in my opinion, Americans will vote for Biden out of necessity, to kick out of office the most dangerous and the most incompetent president ever.
          Positive view for the USA since trump came to office is at its lowest. More than 80% of europeans, asians, australians and many others say that they have no confidence in trump. Trump is a person who can’t be trusted. (BBC).
          When he says that egypt will bomb the dam and he insists that it will do so, even as the pm of sudan was telling him that there will be a win-win solution, it is equivalent to declaring a proxy war against ethiopia using egypt. Only the dumbest politician will say such a thing and unfortunately, he happens to be the most powerful man in the world.

    • David Samson

      Selam Berhe,

      You can’t punch above your weight!

      Not only Ethios could go out and demonstrate against Trump, even if all Ethios voted for Biden, they have little or no effect on the outcome of this election.

      Let’s get real: the majority of Ethios live on the East coast. I believe Virginia is what we call a swing state. In the last election, Clinton won. Maryland and DC are safe Democrats. So Ethios have little leverage on vote counts. As the pundits say, many USA’s elections are won and lost on the battle—swing— states.

      Diverting to PFDJ, they have not given clear direction as to how they should vote. Monkey or IA has not said much since Trump’s election. IA has been quiet and off the back of the USA since Trump’s election. Despite not whispering a word, deep down they are hoping for Trump win.

      Needless to say, I would not draw on the outcome of this election.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi David.

        Let me agree with you that the Ethiopian vote may not have effect on the results.

        Suppose he said this about Israel and what do you think they would have done?

        And what do you think they should do, do nothing?

        In my opinion calling for massive demonstration on just days before the election will have a good coverage in the media. That will create a buzz and the word would spread, not only for Ethiopians but for all Africans and the black community.

        1) That will have a huge impact, not saying all of the will agree and support Ethiopia’s case.

        2) let’s say even if 1000 or 10,000 Ethiopians get to volunteer on Biden campaign, calling people, volunteering and getting minorities to come out to vote in the swing states, even if they take time off work and mobilize, it will have an effect.

        3) Even in the scenario, if Trump wins, it will send a strong message for future reckless adventure, or the green light he is giving. Why on earth he chose to make it public is beyond me, but that’s besides the point.

        4) a strong ally will be created with Biden people, this is the best way to meet the people that will matter and fill in the position if he wins. Take pictures with them, get their contacts, know them and let them know you now, so they can be reached out later. I don’t think the democrats will take such drastic position.

        5) And the Ethiopians in Israel should also demonstrate against the Israel PM.

        Berhe

        • David Samson

          Selam Berhe,

          It is not the Americans have a big heart for Egypt, but the USA’s interest has always been tied up with Israel’s interest. The Egyptians, being pragmatist, had made a peace with Israel after 1967, though at the cost of their leader.

          It is highly unlikely any admin will change this policy, and the Ethios have a massive job at hand to reverse it. If Biden wins, one hopes that he might be to find a middle ground to reconcile the parties, but I very much doubt. In American politics money talks. Those with massive wallet have the eyes and the ears of the incumbent admin. The Ethios have lived in the USA since 1940; and many of them been very successful in the business and the academia. They need to raise their game, organise as a lobbying group to influence USA’s foreign policy. Apart from real politic, I can only suggest looking for the Gods intervention.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            Your ideas are good long term plan it needs to complement with short term plans as well. I think these 10 present opportunity for the short term.

            There will be some short term pain for the long term gain. Ethiopia needs to plan / their affairs away from these aid dependency and foreign money all together.

            Americans not always sides with Israel all the time. The Jews changed that but their shirt and long term plans.

            I wonder what the reaction response of the Ethiopian government has been. Abiy needs to show some courage and leadership.

            Berhe

    • Lebam

      Selam Berhe Y,

      You are a man with integrity, and you’ve displayed it countless times on this forum. This is an issue for all Africans and not just Ethiopia, just like you mentioned.

      Before mankind evolved we were hunters and gatherers. That lead to no significant advancement before we became farmers who could produce food in abundance. That gave mankind opportunities to evolve further, because we could focus on other tasks than a meal for the day.

      The attack on the dam by the Trump administration and their minions is not solely about Egypt not getting water, because Egypt would get water. It is infact an attack on Ethiopia and other countries that would benifit from the dam to hinder their growth and development.

      This is a blessing in disguise for Ethiopians, because they now have a common enemy to focus on instead of fighting among themselves.

      This great speech should be heard by everyone.
      Short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Jmw5o9ulA
      Longer animated version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwM5tpw2XMA

      • Selam Lebam,

        When he called African countries “s**thole” countries in front of the world, and only God knows what he may have said about Africans privately, the reaction from the African side was only mild.
        Here is Ethiopia, one of the so-called ….. countries that dares to say NO to a bully, a narcissist and a paranoid world leader. This smashed his overinflated ego and infuriated him, and he is looking for a way to punish Ethiopia by blocking aid money and intimidating her with aerial bombardment of her dam by his beloved dictator, el sisi.
        As you said this common enemy will bring Ethiopians together. This dam is a change-maker for the whole region. The dam matters for all africans, especially the neighboring countries, which are short of electricity. In addition, the nile riparian countries need to develop their electricity potentials on their rivers. If ethiopia fails to accomplish her dreams, they will all fail, and africa will continue to be a colony of white supremacists like trump, but in name.

        • Lebam

          Selam Horizon,

          Indeed, Africans as a whole should be offended by what the orange bully said, both previously and now, but we should also stand up against the Arabs who play a part in this. Obstructing an African country’s development should hurt every black person, unless they are a sellout of course.

          • Nitricc

            Indeed, Africans as a whole should be offended by what the orange bully said, both previously and now, but we should also stand up against the Arabs who play a part in this

            Lebam; don’t hold your hopes up. Africans will never stand for anything. The question is how Eritrea should handle is the point.

      • Nitricc

        This is a blessing in disguise for Ethiopians, because they now have a common enemy to focus on instead of fighting among themselves.

        Hi Lebam; I think Eritrea gets break too. Now the Ethiopians have a bigger fish to fray and I believe they will leave Eritrea alone. It is true, the Egyptians have air superiority but If i have to bet, i will put my money on the Ethiopians. Eritrea trained them how to fight.

        • Lebam

          Selam Nitricc,

          I don’t believe it will lead to a war, but if it does, I agree, I don’t think Egypt has much to offer against a united Ethiopia. The problem is other countries interference. Such as SA, UAE and the Trump administration.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Lebam; I don’t think there will be war but if there is, the whole east Africa will be set on fire. The problem is Egypt has no respect for black Africans. May be, time for Africans to teach a lesson for the Egyptians. did you know the Egyptians call the Ethiopians slaves?

          • Lebam

            Selam Nitricc,

            Have you ever been to Egypt? The amount of beggers is astounding. One foot outside the plane and you have beggers pulling your suitcase to get some money. They are even outside the restrooms to wash peoples hands.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Lebam; never been there but i don’t have anything respect for them. Do you know what surprised me though? I heard there are Syrian baggers in Addis city. that blow me off. I don’t how true it is but amazing.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            U seems happy, but u need to stop lying, egyptian don’t call ethiopia slaves, at the matter of fact, they always accuse ethiopia of slave trade in the past and holding other people in ethiopia and ethiopia neighbors as a slave.
            Let me say 2 things
            1, ethiopia is building big dam by herself with out asking any country help.
            2, ethiopia refused to bow down for USA and other powers.
            What is the implications of 1+2 ? It means North Korea or China or Iran kind of power is in the making in Africa and they will try to stop it from happening.
            Anyways as i told berhe, u too don’t get excited, there is 75% chance trump will be out of office in a few month, if even if he win, ethiopia will come out Winer.
            Did u heard how the sudan leaders r scared, listen the original video.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy, are you bipolar? something is off with you and do me a favor , please don’t respond to my posts because there is nothing i can learn from you. sorry!!!!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            When was the last time u learned after shabia made u mentally slave and bipolar and tplf made u frozen.
            do u know what bipolar means, all the sign is with u, manic.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Brehe; actually Ethiopia did a favor. If you see what happened to Sudan, if Ethiopia doesn’t minimize the flow of the water by the dam, Sudan could have sink on the kind of water Sudan suffered. The problem the Sudanese have never a true stand.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Nitricc,

        Sudan is really caught in between and it will benefit her if the dam is build.

        But it has to deal the pressure that comes from Egypt the Arab world and now the US.

        I think their position is understandable and they have to play the peace maker, without taking this side over that side and neutralize the situation.

        I listened to the YouTube video Samuel shared and it seems to blame Dr. Abiy as individually made / back door deal or opened the opportunity for the US and others to get involved.

        I don’t think Issuye will be pleased with that, he should learn at least some of stubbornness dealing with the powers to be:)

        Abi, where are you, hope all is good.

        Berhe

        • Nitricc

          Hi Berhe; real quick; I see the end of Sudan. it is a done deal. The question is where does this leave Eritrea? I really think PIA should lay down or give his power to a different person. The region is becoming very, very sticky situations. In this coming process, TPLF is gone and Sudan is done and i see great turbulence in the region. PIA can’t be partial nor can deal with what is coming. He stuck to wipe out the Weyane. What PIA doesn’t understand is that TPLF is dead. If listened their press conference that will tell you the situation they are in. Right now Eritrea is in danger and needs a new leader, new idea and new approach. Don’t give me wrong, PIA has served his duty incredibly and he should be respected and reverenced for that but what is coming, he is suited to face the challenge. The Eritrean people have suffered immensely and they don’t deserve what is coming. It is clear Sudan is becoming the new favored state to serve the US, Israel and Egypt and this will change the geo-politics of the region and i don’t see Eritrea can face it wisely. I don’ t believe he is equipped for the challenge a head. I worry about this great and brave people of Eritrea, they have suffered enough. anyway i will talk to you when i come back. In the mean time stand up with your people and country, you have paid dearly.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatawian,
    Eritrean President Accused of Crimes Against Humanity in Sweden
    According to the news, also accused are , Yemane G/Ab, Fozia Hashim, etc.
    What does this mean? It means that Sweden is as an EU country and EU won’t let the Sweden alone in this fight. What does this mean to Dawit Isak? Is his freedom coming soon? What about his family members. Are they going to get finally their beloved one reunited with them. Above all what does this mean to all Eritrean political prisoners?
    I hope we can discuss reflecting awate.com spirit.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-22/eritrean-president-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity-in-sweden

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I just heard president Trump saying that Egypt should have bombed it up the dam. I have no idea how i shall deal with thing but Ethiopians, finish the freaking dam. I Nitricc declare my allogenic with you. In a way, it is kind of teaching moment. Eritrea bled for 60 years because of the USA and now the USA clearly took the Egyptian side. No worries, Nitricc and Eritrea is on your side. you talking about injustice.

  • Nitricc

    30 and 30. The people of Eritrea fought for long 30 bloody years. And then anther 30 long bloody years paid to preserve the costly independence. When some naïve people demand constitution, election and a rule of law; what they failed to understand is that EPLF just relocated its office from Erarib to Asmara. Do we what was EPLF’s budget when they were in Sahil? NO. Do we know what the budget of the country when EPLF moved to Asmara? NO. The point and the reason is that EPLF is doing what they have done 30 years in the fields. Of course, there is major reason why EPLF didn’t progress in to building institutions and implementation of the constitution. They had to make sure the survival of the nation. And I believe everything they have done is justified because the nation survived. Now we have reached to the even 30/30; time to get back to business. Let’s build the institutions, the right way, let’s implement the constitution the real one, let’s hold an election the clean one. Let’s go back to the original terms of national military service. H.E. PIA; you fought for 30 years and you have led 30 years. And now Sir, time is up and you have served during the most dangerous and treacherous times of the nation. Let’s keep the borders as is, closed and only open the Assab-port for Ethiopia to use and anything that inters in to Eritrea from Ethiopia will be through Assab. I know it is a long rout but trust me, that will be the best way. Time to build Eritrea.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatawian,

    The following link is an account of an Eritrean citizen about the evil man at the center of PFDJ government, from the time he joined the Eritrean struggle until now. Issayas came to the power he now sits on, by divide and rule, and weaving conspiracy against one section of our society. The writer put his accounts in “an acts of seven” in a chronological order for his readers to understand the evil man and his organization.

    https://asenatv.com/38462-2/

  • Nitricc

    This hurts while makes my point. I think the only African leader who figured out the west for who they are is the great president Isaias Afowrki. ” We must keep Africa impoverished”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxikYFa-ByE&feature=emb_logo

  • Dongolo

    Dear Saleh Johar. I am honestly angry and so disappointed in you. Such an opportunity that you have to exert meaningful pressure on the PIA/PFDJ to effect meaningful change but you simply let it go to waste as you appear totally unwilling to break away from perceived obligatory alliance with the TPLF. Not only do you totally refrain from ‘really’ criticizing the TPLF, for you always opt, often coyly, to glorify or pay tribute to them. Any meaningful stratagem against the PIA/PFDJ regime must center on the premise that there is absolutely no logical reason that effective leadership of Eritrea cannot simultaneously pursue holding the TPLF accountable for its woeful actions linked with Eritrean sovereignty, while at at the same time, holding the PIA/PFDJ accountable for a myriad of shortcomings to include human rights violations, lack of judicial process, etc. However, it seems that you are totally unwilling or unable to criticize both the PIA/PFDJ regime AND the TPLF within the same breath.

    • Lebam

      Selam Dongolo,

      I may not agree much with you and Simon from what I’ve read, especially if you support the far right, which both of you seem to do. Simons sources being from Breitbart invalidates every legitimacy his post may have.

      However, I agree with you that the opposition is lacking in some areas, especially respect for Eritreas sovereignty. It seems like the opposition, that we see here at least, go by the saying “by any means necessary”. I personally don’t support the opposition giving the keys to Eritrea to yet another devil, which may pose an even greater threat. Some want to hand out the keys to TPLF and others to the Arabs. Both are equally bad, or perhaps there is a lesser evil?

      Anyhow, there is a massive propoganda machine going on, by people with deep pockets, to unify Tigray and Tigringa. They would have had a greater chance of success if they were inclusive. The historical meaning of term Agazian was highjacked by an evil little midget with inferiority complex and baby sized hands with the sole mission to increase the polarization among our people.

      TPLF is now literally sandwiched. They have IA from the North and AA from the south. The chance of breaking out and merging with Eritrea have never been further away for those who are interested in that. Their relationship is a threat to the opposition that wants a peaceful transition of power as well.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Lebam,

        You say Breitbart is an illegitimate source.

        Why?

        • Lebam

          Simon Kaleab,

          I will refrain from expressing my personal opinion on why Breitbart is an illegitimate source.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News

          https://www.businessinsider.com/most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8?op=1&r=US&IR=T#3-msnbc-37-3

          Tied with Fox News, Breitbart News registered a -73 bias score among Democrats and those who lean Democratic. But unlike Fox News, Breitbart did not receive a positive bias score among Republicans and those who lean Republican. In fact, Breitbart earned a -19 rating from this group.

          https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-including-breitbart-its-facebook-news-feature-despite-supposed-prohibition-hate

          In 2016, then-Breitbart head Steve Bannon called Breitbart “the platform for the alt-right,” which is a misogynist, white nationalist movement.

          Indeed, an expose published by BuzzFeed revealed that Breitbart employees actively courted neo-Nazis and white supremacist leaders for stories, allowing them to contribute ideas, ghostwrite content, and even kill stories.

          Breitbart previously featured a section on its website devoted to “Black Crime.”

          The content at Breitbart is so toxic that an online campaign led 4,000 companies to stop advertising on the website as of September 2018, a boycott reportedly comprising at least 90% of Breitbart advertisers.

          Though not active since 2018, Breitbart has published numerous articles authored by white nationalist and former Republican congressman Tom Tancredo.

          Breitbart has employed white nationalist reporter Virginia Hale.

          https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

          Overall, we rate Breitbart Questionable based on extreme
          right-wing bias, the publication of conspiracy theories and propaganda as well as numerous false claims.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Lebam,

            You don’t want to give your own opinion because you have none. The best you can do is provide links to leftist opinion.

            To be truly ’Lebam’, you must liberate your brain from the prison of lies.

          • Lebam

            Simon Kaleab,

            I didn’t include my opinion to avoid bias, yet you claim it’s a “leftist” opinion. You post links to far-right sites as a source that even those who lean to the right avoid….

            I am liberated from every angle. You can call me Leba instead. 🙂

          • Simon Kaleab

            Lebam,

            Prove to me that you are not a parrot by providing a direct link to a Breitbart article that you think is racist or White supremacist.

            I don’t believe that you read even a single Breitbart article.

          • Nitricc

            Hi SK; you are as confused and corrupts as its founder, the fat slop. you should be ashamed of yourself. Labam is correct.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitric the brain dead parrot 🐦,

            This topic is above your grade.

          • Nitricc

            SK; hahahaha who brain dead? who gets its news from Breitbart? You must be old corrupted. The world has moved on my man. Say hello to Biden. lol

          • Lebam

            Selam Nitricc,

            Simon is a lost cause and he is corrupted like you mentioned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNDqxrUUwQ

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitric the brain dead parrot 🐦,

            Listen moron, I don’t get the news from Breitbart. I get the news, like you, from the corrupt media, far left NYT& WaPo, CommieNN, FakeBook, Twisttter, PooTube and Doodle. But I verify with Fox, Breitbart, FrontPageMag and use logic.

            You say ‘Hello’ to Biden, but he will call you ‘roach’ like he used to call blacks in the old days.

          • Lebam

            Simon Kaleab,

            I supplied you with credible information that you can look up yourself and the fact that I did attests to the fact that I read enough about Breitbart. They are shunned for a reason. Respectable news agencies like New York Times is what you called fake news, if I recall it correctly? That shows who the parrot is.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Lebam,

            So you are running away.

          • Nitricc

            What Lebam runing for you? how is your master Stave Banon doing? you are a typical monkey. Say what you will about Lebam but he got principals. unlike you

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitric the brain dead parrot,

            You are an illiterate.

    • Saleh Johar

      Dongolo,
      As you can imagine my views are only mine. I don’t express them to appease anyone. If you are disappointed because my view do not align with yours, I am sorry.

      I never liked jingoism, in fact it appeals me. Unfortunately, you have not shown what you might consider wrong in my views. Yet, wrong and right are relative depending on perspectives. But I would have liked to see if you have something you consider wrong, unfair, or unprincipled in my views. Otherwise, emotional expression in terms I like it or I hate it is hardly an articulation. Let me see, you are disappointed because I mentioned Mefles within context, right? Sorry, but if you listened carefully I explained that “I know there are some who would not like this”. I know how some of my compatriots think. But for me, patriotism and right-wrong measured based on how many times we repeat Weyane this Weyane that, has nothing to do with patriotism or being right or wrong. What counts is if you are able to poke holes in what I said. Please do only don’t nitpick on irrelevant side of my presentation.

      On the Weyane thing, unfortunately it’s a groupthink that’s going on in some factional corners—you will never find me there. Also remember, we should not be beholden to TPLF-PFDJ rivalry. It doesn’t concern me yet I see my country suffering from that idiotic , never-ending conflict between the two. I had nothing to do with either the TPLF or the pfdj. They can both go to hell. And my focus is on Eritrean issues—I cross that line when something involves Eritrea—like the foolish Abiy empowering a dictator.

      Finally, Eritrea is where it’s because of the chain of reckless, selfish, irresponsible and exclusion it’s policies of the PFDJ. As for the TPLF, I cannot divert you pfdj’s opponents because they are so many. I will not let any faction choose my enemies or my fight for me. If we had a normal country, a normal governance and normal national foreign policy, I would have been obliged to joint any national conflict on Eritrea’s side even if I am in the opposing camp. As it is I am not part of the PFDJ escapades and reckless adventures.

      Thank you

      • Nitricc

        Hi SG; I don’t know the whole thing but from what i see and observe, but slice it every way you want but there is only PFDJ who can be reformed and save the nation. The problem is you gave up too soon on PFDJ. I didn’t think you understood and apricate the obstacles this government came over with. There was five parts of interview with Siyum Mesfin and if you listened carefully, you will learn what this guys was up to. to my mind, there two things as clear as a day light, one, PFDJ is the only political system who can be reformed and changed and two PFDJ is the only power who can defend the nation. Since no opposition system can face the government, why not accept the truth on the ground and try to challenge the government for reform and for change? my point? i think Dengolo has a good point and you should take his criticism to the heart. side story, do you know that my great grand father was a nurse in Keren city? my mother grow up in Keren. Your homework is find out who was a nurse in Keren who was from Adi Qunxi?

        • Saleh Johar

          Nitricc,
          Really? I don’t understand the situation? Well, maybe you do better than me. But please “understand” passion and loyalty to the PFDJ doesn’t translate to understanding the situation.

          But on reforming? Reform can only start from within, and that I have not see from the PFDJ for many decades–they say, beAal amel Amelu yeehaddig, wedebir akaanu. Try to make friend with some Tigrayit speakers and then ask them for translation. See! I am looking after my young brother 🙂

    • Consolation

      Dongolo,

      It makes no difference now whether Saleh criticizes the TPLF or not. It would be too little too late. The TPLF is totally incapacitated by the weight of its own incompetence. Abiy has determined to kill it without firing a shot. And GOD has decided to help Abiy by unleashing a once in a half century locust invasion.

  • Dongolo

    Howdy all. This article serves proof that it is possible for CNN and Tigray Online to bear children. By the way tomatoes came to the horn vied the Portuguese and are an important natural source of MSG.

    • Aligaz G

      Dongolo,

      Do you have any sources showing who actually introduced tomatoes to the region? Most often the Italians get the credit but if the Portuguese were involved then the time period shifts dramatically.

  • Selam Abi and Haile S.,
    Amharic words like ‘ለቀመ፣ ሰበሰበ፣ ኣፈሰ፣” etc, show the subtle differences of actions that are similar and yet different.
    This is how i imagine each word. ‘ለቀመ’ is used to mean to pick individual things one by one. For example, እንጨት ለቀመ፣ የፈሰሰውን ባቄላ ለቀመ፣ etc.
    ‘ሰበሰበ’ seems to have a broader meaning. It gives the notion of bringing together things that are already in smaller groups and yet scattered. For example, ከብቶቹን ሰበሰበ፣ ማሳውን ሰበሰበ፣ ህዝቡን ሰበሰበ፣, etc.
    Just imagine how funny it will be if we say,ህዝቡን ለቀመ፣.
    The word ‘ኣፈሰ” seems trickier. There must be the saying, ‘ዉሃ ያፈሰ…, I have forgotten the remaining part. It connotes an action with the palms of your hands on things you can’t pick, such as water, Teff seed, etc.
    What does waldba university say? When you don’t speak a language on a daily basis, you lose a lot of its nuances, even if it is your mother tongue.
    ‘እንቆቅልህ ሆነብኝ’. It is a mystery to me. Is that the right translation?

    • Haile S.

      Selam Horizon

      Good input! Comparing Tigrigna with Amharic or Geez broadens our understanding of words. It helps in understand origin, divergence, usage, meaning and what have you. What is needed is a thesaurus of Geez derived languages and if possible in conjunction with arabic.

      Although the meanng of ለቀመamharic (ለቐመtigrigna) and ሰበሰበamharic (ኣከበtigrigna), I believe, are very interchangeably as some of the debaters said, I have the same understanding as you in their usage.

      እንቆቅልሽ can be defined as riddle. In tigrigna it is ሕንቅል-ሕንቅሊተይ. It is a riddle to be solved.

      እንቆቅልህ፡ ከትግርኛ የተረጎምኩት፥
      ሞታ የማትቀበር፡ እወቅልኝ!

      • Abi

        መምህር
        “ኣከበ” የሚለው የትግርኛ ቃል “አካበተ” ከሚለው የአማርኛ ቃል የተዋሳችሁት ሳይሆን አይቀርም::
        ተረዲካ/ተረዳኸኝ?

        ትግርኛ ከአማርኛ የተዋሰውን ቃላት ቢመልስ sign language ይሆናል::

        • Haile S.

          Selam ጀታው.

          Amara and Amharic are derived from Tigr’ye and Tigrigna, respectively :-). Please follow Bokre’s youtube lectures. (Bokre history and culture).

          እንቆቅልሹ ኣልመለስክም!

          • Teodros Alem

            selam haile
            Is this bokre from lowland eritrea from keren too, former elf or something?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Teodros,

            I don’t recall now the details, but he talks about himself in one of his videos. He is very controvercial in some subjects of history, but the are area that he knows better too, like church history and Geez alphabets.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam haile
            The church must be ethiopian orthodox, right? I think he is from lowland eritrea, they r good at history, specially ethiopian orthodox history:)

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            Just interjecting to provide you with some information. He is not from lowland Eritrea, and not from Keren. But many Eritreans know about the Orthodox Church because Ethiopia was a theocracy for 800 years and the elect-of-god kings subjugated Eritrea using religious leaders. So, we know of it because it was the system.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            That is exactly what i said, ” they r good”, so where is he from ? From the 10th tribe of eritrea ” geberty” ? If he is jabrty, he considered lowland.

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            I don’t know his identities.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            No, what about his name and when?

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ሞታ የማትቀበር ምንድን ናት?
            ቀባሪ ዘመድ ያጣች ደካማ እድር የነበራት ነች (ወያኔ)::

          • Haile S.

            Selam ጀታው,

            You almost got it, though indirectly. The answer is ስም። ኣባትህ የሰጡህ ዘለዓለማዊት ወንበር (ስም)፡ ወድቃ ኣትሰበር፡ ሞተህ ኣትቀበር።

            የወያኔ ነገር ተወኝ እባክህ። ጠላታችሁ ኤርትራ ናት እያለ፡ (የኤርትራን ትንፋስ እየዘጋ፡ እያደሀየ-መጽዋች) 20 ዓመት ኢትዮጵያውያን ገዛ። እንኳን ገላገላችሁ። ያለ እኛ ኣዋቂ የለም ከሚሉት እድርተኞች ይጠብቃችሁ።

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ምን ሆንክብኝ ዛሬ?
            ሥም ይሞታልም ይቀበራልም!!
            አንዳንዱን ሥም መለስ ብለህ አትጠራውም:: እንደተቀበረ ይቀራል::

        • Consolation

          Abi,

          As a general rule, Semitic language and culture move from North to South. The evolutionary path is Sabeyan -> Geez -> Tigrayit -> Tigrigna -> Amharic. For unknown reasons, Amharic lost the guttural phonemes (units of sound) ሐ ዐ ኸ ቐ:: Maybe imbibing too much ጠጅ softens and makes the throat lazy.

          • Abi

            Consolation
            Unfortunately, I have to agree with you specially the ጠጅ part.
            ጠጅ ጉሮሮ ያጠራል::

    • Abi

      Horizon
      I think you are looking for “የፈሰሰ ውሃ አይታፈስም”.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awatistas and specially those who are engaed on the “ምልቃም” issue.
    Here it my take.
    1) Is it because we do not grow coffee that we do not have the gerund ምልቃም ቡን used in our language? Because language is natural: where grains grow words and their gerunds related to them grow? Can the Jimma visit by IA be the first source for the gerund in our language, Tigrinya ? I mean if we start growing coffee in Eritrea and when we harvest it can we use the gerund? If yes the onus will go to SGJ!
    2) In መዝገበ ቃላት ትግርኛ by Kasa G/ Hiwet and Amauel Gankin page 32 I found:
    (ምልቃም ይለቅም ልቐም ለቒሙ ) 1. ኣረየ ኣርነበ ኣከበ ንኣብነት ጡጥ ምልቃም 2. ኣረይ ፈለየ 3) ቆርጠመ ሓየኸ ኣድቀቐ ( the high light is by me)
    3) I believe some of you may have googled the word, like I did m and I came to see the word has different usages.
    ምልቃም ዘመተ / / ተቀዳደምቲ ኣብ ምልቃም ተተሓሓዝዎ/መኣዶምን ርፍራፎምን ምልቃም

  • Nitricc

    Hi SG; the title in Tigrigna is wrong.” Milkam” should have read “MiEray” Milqam is Amharic. 🙂

    • Saleh Johar

      Nitricc,
      I think m’eray is picking from the ground, mlqam is picking from trees. If it’s not, we need a word for that and no mistake in borrowing from another language be it Amharic or Fulani.

      Nitricc, where do they offer “learn Tigrinya in one week” courses? It got to be extensive 🙂

      • Nitricc

        HI SG, oh well, i thought i got you lol

        • Saleh Johar

          Nitricc,
          “Gotcha” attitude spoils discussion. I suggest, unless it is significant, or abysmally wrong, just let it pass. Otherwise, it become nitpicking. I knew you live for the Gotcha high 🙂

          • Nitricc

            HI SG, comedown, i was just joking. what is up with you guys, take it easy. Sometimes have a lighter moment.

      • Consolation

        Saleh,

        ምእራይ is to pick from ground as well as from trees. ኣራይ በለስ ክበሃል ኣይሰማዕካን ማለት ድዩ?

        • Nitricc

          Hi Conso, don’t do that SG doesn’t like challenges or criticisms. As good as he is, i guess every one has a short comings.

          • Consolation

            Hi Nitricc,

            The best policy if you have erred, and to err is human, is to admit it and move on. In most scandals, it is the cover-up that is worse that the original sin.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Conso; I mean humility goes a long way. I admit i don’t know jack but SG took my goofy moment tool to it the wrong way and he is offended by my simple comment. He knpws that i don’t shhhhit but still he got offended, go figure.

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            I didn’t know you are soft skinned! Now I am offended because you think I am. You should know better. If such things offend me I would have disappeared from the public space ages ago. Sorry if I came that way to you

          • Saleh Johar

            Consolation,
            The Kuraan says it’s mlqam. I just can’t remember the verse number—is there one in Tigrinya:-)
            As you know there is no standard Tigrinya because different areas have some difference in words. For example, some areas say ማይ ወቂዑ others ማይ ሃሪሙ some say ፍንጢራዕ others say ፍንጭራዕ. Maybe it’s a corrupted or borrowed word but I grew up with that understanding. Who is the arbitrator and on what yardstick? ፋርገና ያሆ ሓመሪገት ኣይትግበሮ:: that is correct Tigrinya but try to correct it if you can 🙂

          • Consolation

            Hello Saleh,

            If there is a Tigrigna translation of the Quraan, then it must be recent when Tigrigna has been corrupted by a lot of people using Amharic. The Tigrigna translations of the Bible are older and I prefer the Bible usage than any recent usage. ምልቃም is taken from the Amharic language and it is rarely used in the sense you have used it.

            There may not be an arbiter of correct usage but one can appreciate the pleasing nature of correct usage. I personally prefer to exhaust Tigrigna before importing foreign words. Thus, for me ምእራይ is more pleasant than ምልቃም. And recently, Tigrayans are corrupting the language by an inhibited usage of Amharic words and phrases. A phrase like ድምበር ሰጊርና is really irritating.

          • Saleh Johar

            Consolation,
            I think it is natural for languages to borrow and lend. Then the language market decides what floats and what sinks. If you lived in Keren in my time, I imagine you pulling your hair–you have no idea how many versions of Tigrinya and Tigrayet there are/were. What would you do with the Tigrinya version spoken in the border areas in the regions that straddle the Tigrai-Eritrea border? Even if there are minor regional differences, for the most part they are indistinguishable. I believe the English can not tell the Australians their English is inferior, or Canadians. For that matter, the English spoken in Nigeria is just English though another (different) version. I know in Eritrea we have different drum beats in different places, even the dance tempo goes from slow, to fast, to faster. Let’s settle on the fact that Tigrinya has accents and is spoken differently in different places–that goes for Tigrayit and I do not see any problem with it. Don’t be irritated.

          • Brhan

            Selam Saleh,
            فَالْتَقَمَهُ الْحُوتُ وَهُوَ مُلِيمٌ
            (الصافات – 142)
            The above is from the Koran Chapter 37 Verse 142. The word is used to say engulfed or ate fastly : The whale engulfed prophet Yunus (Jonah).
            But in Arabic dictionary I found this
            لقَّم القهوةَ: وضع قدرًا من البُنِّ لإعدادها
            Laqima Al-Qahwa meaning to put amount of coffee to prepare it.
            The word in the Koran and the subject of our disccussion one thing in common. Fastness. Like to collect the coffee beans fastly.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Consolation,

          ኣራይ በለስ, I think that’s something that has fallen from the tree and that you pick.

          Berhe

          • Consolation

            Berhe Y,

            It works for both cases. But I am curious about what you call someone who picks beles from the tree? I never heard the phrase ለቓም በለስ.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            Abey Beles ms leqemku emo feliTeyo, kidding. Good point, I don’t.

            Berhe

          • uf

            Consolation,
            ‘who picks beles from the tree?በለስ አውሪዱ, you call it.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        ሰላም ሳልሕ

        “ምእራይን” “ምልቃምን” are interchangeable words that are popularly used one from the other depending on certain regions.

        For instance:
        (1) “ዕንጨት ክኣሪ ወፊሩ” in this case the person does not only pick woods from the ground, he can also collect from dried branches of trees.

        (2) “እተን ጨራሩ ነቲ ዝፈሰሰ እኽሊ ለቂመን ወዲኤነኦ” in this case the birds have ate the seeds – picking by their peaks from the ground.

        (3) “እተን ጨራሩ ነቲ ጉንቦ ማሽላ ለቂመንኦ” which means the birds ate the standing sorghum and not from the ground.

      • Amanuel

        Hi Saleh
        I though better to look with in the language first before borrowing. We can adapt Mkntab. It is mostly used for leaves and flowers but sometimes we used it for Grapes and Peaches as well.

        • Saleh Johar

          Methane Amanuel,
          I wish we could pick and choose word for our language. But as you know, languages are open markets with no customs barrier or military Defence. They penetrate territories unhindered and fight their way to enter into other languages. Speakers of any language are interested on utility and if a word serves a purpose, it is adopted or slowly absorbed. Of course if they are sponsored by a powerful entity like a government, they assimilate quickly. Otherwise it’s a free market. And in a free market, it’s survival of the fittest.

          On Nitricc, I know him since the launch of awate. He is a veteran here and I have a soft spot for him—he knows it. Just like you are disappointed with me (for no reason, I must add:-) ) I am disappointed with him for not joking a serious class to learn the language instead of being fooled by the “learn Tigrinya in a week” advertisement . But please, please ncluding everyone reading, don’t get between Nitricc and me— we know how to deal with each other. 🙂

          • Amanuel

            Hi Saleh
            I share your ideas languages shouldn’t have boarders but if there better local word which describe an action I think better to use it as people are already familiar with.

            As per Nitricc issue I am not disappointed with you. There was not reason for that. It was just an observation. Even I didn’t know that Tigrina in one week advertisement existed.

            Thanks
            Amanuel

          • Saleh Johar

            Amanuel,
            True, people will use what is convenient for them and will not be beholden to any laws. How can you make everybody speak the same accent, the same collection of vocabs, the same pronunciation? If that was possible, we humanity wouldn’t have thousands of languages–each group of people develops its own language based on its environment and mode of living. But we might be going towards a wholesale massacre of weak languages as the technological onslaught continues unabated. How much do you think English has penetrated other languages in the last century? Then think in the last 20 since the Internet became so widespread. The last 20 years are noticeably faster, I think

          • Consolation

            Saleh,

            There are laws of language usage but they are enforced not by the police but by convention. You may use whatever words, phrases and constructions you choose, but your listeners and readers will judge how you use the language. In other words, aesthetics in language matters. There is a world of difference between the literate and the illiterate. And people in general are able to differentiate between the two. You used the word ምልቃም in a context that it probably has never been used and so it was appropriate for Nitricc to point out to you that ምእራይ is the more appropriate word. Since your words are the only tool you have in your political crusade against Isu, expect to be called out when your words are not pretty!

          • Saleh Johar

            Consolation,
            I know it’s not about language or anything, it’s about the tyrant. You will be on my back because of my position. What if I declare my loyalty to the dictator, can I use ምልቃም? This is ridiculous. I hereby declare ምልቃም, the queen of all words.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Saleh,
            ምልቃም sounds more like ቅዋም, ምቅዋም, etc. and this word is not appropriate in the hgdfites parallel universe.
            Use their capo’s fabricated word in stead: ምፍብራኽ 🙂

          • Saleh Johar

            MM,
            I think you are right. Don’t you think they will be okay with it if I declare my loyalty to the head ለቃማይ?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Saleh,
            ለቓማይ describes ዓቢ-ዓርገን better than any word, even better than tyrant or dictator!

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlan all Awate people

    I hope you are all well specially Kokhab and Gadi.

    Al-Arabi

    • Ismail AA

      Hayak Allah ustaz Al-Arabi,
      WC back, sir.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Al-Arabi,

      Welcome back my dear..

      KS,,

    • Saleh Johar

      Welcome back Hameed,
      I am ding fine. Thank you

    • Berhe Y

      Welcome back Hameed.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Saleh,

    Thank you for this timely talk..That was very informative and full of wisdom..This can be a complete book by taking each title like the bean of Keffa and Jimma..I enjoy it and I cannot stop listing from the first day you put it in you-tube..Nice and carefully prepared as usual…

    Thank you again Brother Saleh…I am becoming jealous of the all talks and happy at the same time…Shall i start preparing like you? Ha Ha where is the ability?

    KS,,

    • Saleh Johar

      Thank you Kokhob,
      Wisdom! I wish I could borrow some from you.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሳልሕ!

    ጸብሒ-ኣቡን?
    ኣይናትኩምን

    ኮሚደረ?
    ዘይነበረ

    እጀ ጠባብ?
    ናይ ህንዲ ርካብ
    ኢልካና
    ‘ሞ ‘ታይ ደኣዩ ናትና?

    ዝኹሉ ኣብ ዓለም ክስራሕ
    ኣበይ ኢና ኔርና?
    ኦ! ረሲዐዮ ኔረ
    ንምካሕ ደኣ ንሕናስ
    ብዘይ ፍረ
    ውጽኢትና ድማ
    ዕረ
    ባቃ

  • David Samson

    Sealm SJG,

    “did we know tomatoes before the Italian colonized us? I doubt it”.

    I can’t remember the episode number, but in one of them you reluctantly accepted that we were traditional society before the arrival of Europeans. I wish you could have been a bit bolder. There is nothing wrong to be backward or traditional. All human races and creeds have been through it. Europeans do not hide the fact that they lived under the dark ages. During the Pagan era, human remains were treated as a trophy to be hung in the living room.

    I have a Woleye friend. He told me growing up, eating tomatoes were frowned upon by the locals. If locals see you picking up tomatoes, they curse you for introducing Amoeba into the food chain.

    Tomato is anti antioxidant. In fact, it is rated as a second to the black antioxidants— the black and blue berries. We just did not know it until the arrival of the Europeans.

    FYI, I eat raw Tomato as i do with other fruits.

    • Saleh Johar

      Thank you David,
      No society develops without genuine self reflection and consistent social critique. Our problem is we were bombarded with feel-good propaganda starting before the term was invented. The result is arrogance, basting and unrealistic self-worth. At this juncture, I belief all the ballots should be deflected. The “we are number 1” mentality should be demolished. We have to come down to earth and start to rebuild on solid grounds—facts and reality.

      My messages are an attempt to do that: shock therapy. However, I realize no single individual can reach the finish line alone and in a short time. But I do my part.

      So, whatever I say should be understood in that context because it pains me to see our collective approach to universal values are not only lagging behind but stagnant.

      Tomatoes are just an example like the other things I mentioned. But when I see people who should know better peddling ideas that increase the ignorance and arrogance of our people, I believe I should play a role in countering that destructive behavior. And as I always feared, that warped understanding is driving us away from other humans and towards fascism. Every destructive behavior we see didn’t grow in a vacuum, it has a reason. And we must focus on that reasoning if we are to improve ourselves and be a normal member of humanity.

      David, I could go on and on because I have been following this for decades now. But I hope this helps you understand where I am coming from.

      Thank you for the brilliant comment

  • Nitricc

    Good job Ethiopians. You forced Biden to omit Gail smith from his public appearance in DC. And the Ethiopians are telling Biden not to do anything with Susan Rice either.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; reading SG’s take on glorifying the midget, one can’t help but wonder about the mentality of Africans. here is a man rapped the country and left debt for many generation to come and he is appreciated for his corruption and miss-deeds. Melles and his friends, took a loan that 90% stolen and 10% invested. If SG is fine with that then well? What amazes me most is some Eritreans the love they have for that corrupted, backward, thief and crab mentality of the TPLF dead leader. I have no idea what it is.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam Nitricc
      They think they r play ” my enemy enemy is my friend”,

    • Dongolo

      Selam Nitricc. There is absolutely no logical reason for any Eritrean to pay tribute to MZ at this particular point of history unless the TPLF is their benefactor. Little wonder it is that the Eritrean opposition is so mistrusted.

  • Nitricc

    Sometimes it is strange the prefect plan, a plan it was fined over the years, could go against you. The whole of plan of TPLF was simple. At the expense of Ethiopia and Eritrea to create independent Tigray. There was no problem if TPLF wanted to create an independent Tigray, however; they wanted Tigray that includes lands from Ethiopia and an outlet to the sea, from Eritrea. The plan started by letting Eritrea get away with Assab without any kinds of deal. This was done by believing that it will be easy to get Assab from Eritreans than the Ethiopians for the Tigray republic. Once TPLF felt strong the next step was to ignite any kind of conflict that will give a legitimate reason to annex Asseb. The war ignited and consumed thousands lives and destroyed properties. The brave Eritreans defended their country to the last blood and foiled one of the greatest dangers to Eritrea. Five million people who came out after 30 years of war had to face 90 million people who are driven by grudge and revenge, Armed with modern weaponeers, indeed the ultimate showdown. Eritrea survived thanks to her children. Once TPLF lost the war with Eritrea, the other war was crafted, no peace no war. Inside this evil plan includes establishing refugee comps so, that could attract young Eritreans. It worked perfectly, Eritrea lost most of her young citizens and they were victims and they wasted their life in the refugee comps of Tigray. To suffocate Eritrea, TPLF had to place more than 70 thousand of solders in Tigray. Those solders lived In Tigray for the last 18 to 20 years and majority Tigryan women ended up having babies from Oromo, South, Amara and you name it. The level of HIV and STD is over the roof. Prostitution is the order of any given day. All the fine plan and designed meant to kill Eritrea; it turns out to be it killed Tigray and her children. Now the Tigray girls has fallen in to the arms of Oromo, the south and Amara, safe to say Tigryan’s culture and social fabric has been destroyed. Sure, Eritrea has suffered but her values and social fabrics stayed in tacked. Now TPLF lead Tigray is confused, tangled and chaotic in brinks of war and economic uncertainty. I am very sorry for the people of Tigray. The problem for Tigryans is that Eritrea. They are trying to duplicate what ever Eritrea is done and doing and that gets them in trouble. It is important for Tigryans to understand that they are Killil and act like it. Do you know why PMAA stopped caring about you? Because he knows, you have nowhere to go. It is amazing after 47 years, you are exactly where you started.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam
    Like any other previous ethiopian leaders meles did a lot of bad and negative things to ethiopia and he also contributed a lot of positive things specially when it comes to Gerd, economy and foreign relationship , so pls stop telling us as if the people and politicians of ethiopia don’t recognize his positive contribution to ethiopia, nobody denied his contribution on gerd , some on economy and foreign relationship.
    2nd , i know this article provoking ethiopians and make them say meles was tplf leader and what ever he did in tigrai is his legacy , there is no way he love addis , debre brehan, adama, hawassa or behirdar more than mekele.
    but since u guys don’t have anything to show, now days u guys become as the saying ” Arada seyereg, Akatere yehonel”, it means. When ……… Got older, she/he will become broker.

    • Saleh Johar

      Tedros Alem,
      The first paragraph: I cannot stop saying what I didn’t start saying. What warranted your outburst, “pls stop telling us as if the people and politicians of Ethiopia don’t recognize his positive contribution to Ethiopia…”?

      2. I didn’t talk about how other people, I talked specifically aboout your 7th king. Show me where he recognized Meles and I will apologize to you. If not, I will not ask you to apologize, just learn to debate honestly.

      On the second paragraph:
      1- Anyone has the right to pretend he is a Tenqway, but don’t hold me responsible for what you concoct in your brain. In fact I had PFDJ cult in mind, not Abiy cult–sorry, I forgot the two merged.
      2. “There is no way he loves addis, debre berhan, adama, hawassa or behirdar more than mekele.” That is your statement and it has nothing to do with what I wrote or said. Honesty requires that you do not present your statement as if you are correcting me. Iy’s another concoction of your mind.
      3. I have nothing to say of myself because I do not want to be you–that is a cult sentiment and I do not belong to any.
      4. You should know your “golden street wisdom” is a violation of forum protocol and though I can easily wear the moderator hat, I will not because it would appear as a conflict of interest. I chose your debating style expose your character.
      5. Read no 4, and next time, never use street words in this forum. Elsewhere, it depends if you can restraint your tongue and fingers or not.

      Finally, people with no argument, wobbly principles and ethics, revert to vulgarity and insults. I hope you realize that spoils the discussion in the forum and should not be tolerated. Please have mercy and restrain yourself.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam Saleh Johar
        That is not my saying, that is a saying in addis ” arada seyerge , akattere( pim) yehonal”
        aman h quoted u and made a comment ,if u disagree to what he said, respond to him and come to me.
        3A lots of time mentioned meles contribution on gerd, lots of time, meles academy is still open and working under 3A and so on. besides meles was never been eritrea president, he was ethiopian pm so don’t tell us what is good for us , what our history is and so on, specifically u the most losers people.

        • Saleh Johar

          Tedros,
          I am sure there are a few living people who are a continuation of the misery the region went through. I have nothing more to say to you except, Just keep it clean

  • Yp

    Selam.

    The rooster is not crowing loud enough.

    Opposition groups need to wake up and ally themselves with powerful PFDJ enemies that are more equipped to overthrow the regime. Justice seekers keep asking the West to help, but the West does not have a vested interest in Eritrea. Saudi Arabia and UAE however, do. And they have a military base right in the source.

    If it’s true that UAE has started contacting opposition, I hope those opposition groups grasp the opportunity and market themselves as a better alternative to PFDJ in UAE eyes. Time to fight dirty now.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Yp,

      It is distressing to see an Egypt or UAE or Saudi Arabia is looked to and encouraged to sponsor a long destructive and smoldering fire storm on the people of your own country. Opposition groups become united all of a sudden when the sponsor shows up for its own purpose. Does it even make any sense?

      Mr. K.H

      • Selam Kim Hanna,
        The Saudis and Emiratis can’t solve their own problems in Yemen. How is it possible to expect them to solve the Eritrean problem? What else can they do other than giving some money from the petro-dollars? The human factor, the geography and other factors that are necessary are not there. Much more, this is not the era of revolutions and the cold war belongs to the past. All recent revolutions are home-born.

        • Brhan

          Hi Horizon,
          First , as I have addressed the issue of the authenticity of the info that Yp presented with Yp and KH, we have to be careful to be engaged in discussion without knowing if what presented is news/info or opinion.
          I do not know if that is Yp’s opinion ( he/she free to have) but Yp can’t depict his opinion as info or news to us.
          Secondly I agree with you with the factors of revolutions but don’t you think that history has shown as that an external factor( negative/positive) had a role?The legendary example of a failed home-born revolution by external factor is of Mohammad Mosaddegh Iranian politician who served as the 35th Prime Minister of Iran, holding office from 1951 until 1953) His , government was overthrown in the 1953 Iranian coup d’état orchestrated by the United States’ Central Intelligence. Also Patrice Lumumba is another example. In addition we would not have Iraq and Libya revolutions that thrown their dictators without the intervention of the west and their allies. The examples are many.
          Last but not least the rapprochement of IA and PMAA in its beginning has included significant involvement of UAE and Saudi Arabia. Though this is not about revolution in literal sense , it is about changes in policies of the two governments of Eritrea and Ethiopia. This is to say external factor can a play a role in changes of policies that countries have towards each other. The best example that I can give you is the role of US on UAE and Israel relationship.
          So the desire of rapprochement was first shown from Eritrea and Ethiopia, but do not you think Saudi Arabia and UAE , who came to play a role that was blessed by the west and particularly by the US, did not convince one or the other one ( or both) to wrap up the task by using financial, diplomatic and publicity support as an incentive?
          Thanks

          • Yp

            Selam Brhan.

            This is all my opinion. Nothing I have said I claim to be fact. I said “if” it’s true UAE has started contacting opposition.

          • Brhan

            Selam Yp
            Ok but do not you think opinion have sources: the Arabic proverb says Ma Fi Dukhan Mi Qeyri Al Nar…No smoke without fire. I recall there was a disagreement between the regime and the UAE because the later attempted to connect with the locals in Asseb. Do you think this incident can lead the UAE to look for the opposition.
            Thanks.

          • Yp

            Brhan,

            I think that incident was simply the spark of a mistrust between Isaias and UAE. (his generals never liked the UAE – apart from Karikare)

            Because of that incident, Isaias has been refusing to have civil talks with UAE. Combine that with UAE’s disapproval of Isaias’ regional policies – particularly his interference in Port Sudan – I do think the UAE may look to the opposition.

            It is all up to Isaias. Whether he decides to mend his relationship with UAE or whether he takes on his usual route of stubbornness and disregard of agreements he has made.

          • Selam Brhan,

            What I am saying is that in today’s world, post the cold war, the only world power is more or less in a crisis itself since trump came to the scene, and other forces are not really for regime change for the sake of any ideology, whatever that ideology maybe. Although the world is unipolar, the USA and Russia included do not seem to have the stamina for an adventure in a third world country.
            Can America, Russia or China fight dictatorships when they are ruled by dictators themselves or by a person who aspires to become a dictator, such as trump, and when ideology plays no big role in a unipolar world? The USA can not sell the democracy myth anymore, because it is not democratic itself. Trump wants to continue sanctions against Iran, and no European country is ready to follow suit, let alone go with him to invade Iran. That is why i say that today’s world is a different place.
            Can the UAE do more than giving money? Will Ethiopia and Sudan allow their territories to be used to invade Eritrea? These things are not going to happen in today’s world.
            Revolutions do not always succeed, whether they are home-grown or imported from the outside. Imported revolution, unless the Eritrean people are ready to adopt and defend it, it will not have a chance to survive. Therefore, homegrown revolutions, such as the one we saw in Sudan and many other countries are the ones that work and have the chance to succeed.
            Indeed, external factors can play a role to bring about a change of policy, but even then it needs two to tango. That is when a strong and united opposition is needed.

      • Brhan

        Hello Kim,
        I have asked Yp if what he wrote is news and if it is to tell us where he got it. I think you agree with me that without evidences to rely on , it will be difficult to engage in a constructive discussion.

      • Yp

        Selam Kim Hanna.

        It is what it is. Sadly opposition groups are located outside the country. It is virtually impossible to overthrow the regime without an ally – particularly one that is located inside the country. Short of forming a militia, which is unrealistic, this is our best bet.

    • Brhan

      Hello Yp
      Is this news? Do you have the source?
      Thanks,

  • Brhan

    Hello Saleh,

    I think all the persons in the cover of this episode are laughing, due to these ironies.

    Irony # 1 The first president of a country to speak negatively about the dam has become the first president to visit it , in order to appreciate it. ( note that IA spoke negatively about the dam while in his political honeymoon with Meles Zenawi)

    Irony # 2 As Eri-Sat news describes it, in his visit to the dam, coffee plantation and university , IA was not accompanied by relevant ministers ( such minister of agriculture, minister of education). What happened to those ministries?

    Irony # 3 Coffee will be again made in Eritrea. The visit of Jimma fits it.

    Mean while the issue of border , our constitution, and freedom of speech are put aside until , PM Abiy Ahmed Ali solves his quarrel with the TPLF only by the process of law.

    • Saleh Johar

      Brhan,
      This is quite normal with the leaders who do not know the meaning of decorum. Many years ago I sat in a community meeting with Isaias at the Beyan Palace in Kuwait. They invites about 30 of us and there was Isaias sitting with several ministers on a table facing us. He spoke and then it was question time. There were questions about health, education, trade, etc. But Isaias replied to all without giving a chance to the ministers sitting with him a single chance to talk. After the meeting I chatted with G15 prisoner Saleh Kekya and said to him, “you had nothing to say throughout the meeting; what was the use of your presence if you are that irrelevant?” He was mad and I don’t think he forgave me for that comment. But his situation saddens me to this day because I know him personally since I was a child.

  • Berhe Y

    Selam Saleh

    Prime Minister Abiy, the seventh king (Ethiopian call him that but I do not know what 7th means.)

    Hi Saleh,

    I could be wrong but I heard somewhere why they call him the 7th king. It’s what his mother told him after she dreamed that he will be the 7th king. He is the 7th since Tewodros who I think was the start of modern day Ethiopia.

    I don’t know why they are not counting Tsahatu..may be because she was not a king.

    Abi may know.

    Tewodros II
    Tekle Giyorgis II
    Yohannes IV
    Menlik
    Lij Iyasu
    Haile Slassie

    Berhe

    • Saleh Johar

      Berhe,
      The best answer that I got so far. It seems many parrot 7th king without knowing it. It must be some primitive prophecy. Thank you.
      But why start from Tedros? There were dozens of elect-of-god before him!

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Saleh,

        I don’t know why the start counting from Tewodros.

        Search “Mom Told Me I’ll be Ethiopia’s 7th King: Pastor Abiy Ahmed” Abiy telling the story himself. I guess his way of motivating to “dream big”

        Berhe

      • Haile S.

        Selam Saleh & Berhe,

        It is all magic! Even God chose to rest on the seventh day. Or Man wanted his creator to rest on the seventh day after creating him on the sixth day, according to my book.
        Instead of saying 2 weeks we say ክልተ ሸውዓተ! for example

        Berhe, correct Tsahaitu by Zewditu.

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሳሊሕ፡

    ሳሊሕ ብዓል ዛዕጎል ክራቫታ
    ክሓትት መጀመርታ፡ ይቕረታ
    ካይትጸልኦ ናተይ ለኼፌታ

    ቀንጢጥካና ክሳብ መወዳእታ
    ህያብ ከይተሰከምካ ጨና ዓደን ሽታ
    ጥራሕና ኣትሪፍካና ካይገደፍካ ዋላ ታ ብታንታ
    ዕርቃንና ኣውጺእካያ ዝብላዕ ዝልበስ ዘይብልና መሰነይታ

    ዕፉን ጌርካዮ ዘይናትና
    ድንሽ’ከ ‘ተበልካ ናይ ጓና
    ኮመደረ ናይ ገዛእትና
    ጸብሒ ኣቡን ዘይመባዕልትና
    በለስ፡ እዚ ኣሿኽ ከማን መንጢልካና
    እታ እንቋቑሖ ትመስል 737 ኢልካያ ምጽዋትና
    —– ወይ ጉድ!
    ጣፍ እውን ወስ’ኮ ውሰዶ ኮይኑ’ሎ መፈከር ጎረቤትና

    ክዳን ሓበሻ ጌርካዮ ዘይናየቦታትና
    ጡበን ተቐሊዐን ማይ ዝወርዳ ጌርካየን ኣዴታትና

    እሞ ከም ET ካብ UFO ኣብዛ ኤርትራ ትብሃል ጥብ ኢና ኢልና

    ዕደ! መሺሉካ እምበር ሽንጦ፡ ኩዕንቲ እውን መሊኡና
    ኣይትረስዕ! እዚ ኩሉ ሓንጎል ዘጥረኻዮ ብወዲ ዓከርና 🙂

    • Saleh Johar

      HaileS,
      You are fed on French literature and enlightenment. In order to break our arrogance and fascistic tendencies, breaking down all mythologies and inflated self perception is a must. It’s painful but I chose to do it. Only then we can build upwards from our basic existence on the fringes of humanity. It’s like a boot camp where people are stripped of their superficial facades and built to be good soldiers. It’s time we criticized our culture and history ruthlessly. Only then we can be humbled and grow to be good human beings. If you think you have everything, and you are the best that humanity produced, then your ambition is dead because you believe you have attained the maximum. It’s a modest social revolution and my allies in this fight are the good people like you. I hope I gave you a glimpse on how I am thinking. Back to you dear…

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Abu Salah,

    Let me quote you; “ Abiy took him to industrial parks, roads, dams, and a vehicle assembly/factory—all built during the era of Meles Zenawi—but since he changed the name of several of them, he can claim them as his achievements. But he has nothing to do with any of the projects that he inaugurates, cuts the ribbon, etc., ”

    My friend, I like when you throw the truth on the face of the deniers. Stand tall my friend. As a matter of fact, you showed them indirectly, that the Era of Meles wasn’t the era of darkness, rather it was the era of economic revival, that has never seen in the history of Ethiopia. There is no rebranding of the economic success of the great leader of (Meles Zenawi), even if they try to hijack it. Good job my friend.

    Regards

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Amanuel
      I invite you to read የማቴዎስ ወንጌል 8:21-22.
      Almost missed you.

      • Saleh Johar

        Selam Ras Abi,
        And I invite you to read Mathew 8:20 just after 20-21.
        When wine goes bible, it ያስረክሳል 🙂 take it easy

        • Abi

          Selam Ato Saleh
          ትዕዛዝዎን አክብሬ መፅሓፉን መርምሬ
          ትርጉሙ አልገባኝም ይጠቁሙኝ መምህሬ
          በቀላሉ አለቅዎትም እጮሃለሁ አምርሬ

          “ሙታናቸውን እንዲቀብሩ ሙታንን ተዉዋቸው” ሜቴ 8:21

          • Saleh Johar

            Ras Abi,
            Telling anyone to read a holy book is charity. That’s what I did. Did you read enough of your bible today? Good 🙂

          • Abay

            Dear Mr. Saleh Johar
            Thank you for this interesting article. I have some questions and some comments to make if I may. I asked around here in Addis about the “seventh king’ prefix made to Prime Minister Abiy in the article.. Those I asked, including me, no one has herd PMAA referred to as the “seventh king”. I very well know the story of the prime minister’s mother predicting her soon would be a king, but where did this ‘seventh thing’ come from? Or is it a diaspora creation to make fun of him and discredit him? I am not saying I am for the coined phrase or against it but I would like to know the source. On the visit of PIA to Ethiopia and Prime Minister Abiy talking him around projects, allow me to make a long quotation from the article:
            “Abiy took him to industrial parks, roads, dams, and a vehicle assembly/factory—all built during the era of Meles Zenawi—but since Abiy changed the names of several of them, he can claim them as his achievements. However, he has nothing to do with any of the projects that he inaugurates, cuts the ribbon for, etc., surrounded by ululations and public cheering: Aby! Abiy! Abiy, Issu, Issu, Issu. In fact, the only project that Abiy presided over is the Entoto public park and palace renovation—and I doubt if he didn’t inherit the designs and studies from his predecessors—would those who know share some info about that?”
            The article asserts that Prime Minister Abiy is claiming the projects he showed PIA as his (PMAA) own achievements. The fact is PMAA, as a leader of the country took around PIA to show his guest different projects of the country and this is a perfectly normal practice. A critical assertion that PMAA claimed what he showed PIA as his (PMAA’s) own achievements should be backed by facts and I am requesting for these facts. Where did he claim this? Did he say it, write it? Where is the proof? Or is this a deduction that PMAA’s showing around the project is tantamount to claiming it as his own achievement? If I take my guest to Axum to show the obelisks, would that mean I am claiming the oblisk as my personal achievement? Regarding project name changes, which project is this referring to? What name did PMAA change? I know some money losing, infested with corruption and inefficient institutions have been restructured and that has nothing to do with PMAA claiming achievements. Rational for restructuring? One example, there was work going on to establish mega sugar factories with huge plantations. The task was given to one of the restructured institutions. What should have been completed in less than three years, it took the institution forever. To make the bad worse, the institution even lost over 7 billion bir (and the suspicion is the money was embezzled by TPLFites) and it is a court case now. This prompted the need and action for restructuring. I could go on but stop here! Regarding comparison between the deceased and the current prime ministers, it should be the people who pass in real time through the consequences of being led by prevailing prime ministers that should be the source of opinions on whose favor preference goes. Currently, most of us hate TPLF and mind you we are the very people who cried for the late Prime Minister Melese, with real tears and deep sorrow! At this moment, the vast majority of us love PMAA and hate TPLF with proportional vigor, period. The late Professor Mesfine, one of the great people Africa had produced, said in an interview that he believed PMAA was God sent! Talk to the people here and you will be surprised! Anyone who disagrees with this should first apply conventional tools to find out credible opinion of the people and come up with results that maintain conventional standards. Otherwise, the discussion becomes “mine-is-better-than-yours” kind of shouting match, and the one who shouts louder wins. So, public opinion here in Ethiopia is a little too complex for casual analysis. And by the way, this comparison of the two, we the people here in Ethiopia, are rarely engaged in comparing the dead with the living. We only know that TPLF, as it stands now is number one in the list of Ethiopia’s enemies. They are first and for most the enemy of their own people, the Tigrians. I am guessing, because TPLF is the enemy of PIA, some in the forum love them and hate PMAA. This is their right and I don’t blame them for that. What is not right is deliberately presenting half-truth or nothing truth! wrong information.
            Thank you and my best regards
            Abay

          • Saleh Johar

            Dear Abay,
            Your comment is one of the best arguments I read in a while. It is delightful and I thank you for your civil, respectful and coherent arguments.

            1. As you know, it is difficult to say where someone is commenting from because oftentimes, people are not who they say they are, and it is challenging whether the 7th king expression is geography-centric or not. But I have been seeing it for a while and I even asked in social media what it means but no one answered except what I read on this forum. I am still curious what it means and that is why I asked. Now you made me more curious and I must dig into it, it’s my habit. But it could be anything of what you suspected or totally the opposite. Let’s wait and see.

            2. Before I answer your second point, let me give it a context. Abiy comes to me as a showy man, like a few show-influenced politicians. Most of the time, it’s not what they say as such, but what they imply and the messages and mannerism that sticks to our thinking. What I saw is that he was on a wild attack on political opponents (which is proved by the jailing of prominent ones from all parts of Ethiopia). I have difficulty accepting the imprisonments were legally motivated, but politically motivated. Am I surprised a man who came trying to add everyone in his mix turns to be what he has become? Yes, I am—and that is coming from a skeptic. Still, for someone who doesn’t acknowledge those before him denies himself that opportunity. I wished he would break the cycle and introduce sane politics to our region. That was not to be. But why am I worried? As I said many times, I feel Eritrea as a neighbor with historical ties to Ethiopia would be affected by what goes in Ethiopia. Unfortunately, we have been suffering when Ethiopia does bad and when it does good. Still unfortunately, both peoples have not reached a state of comfortable coexistence for so long.

            3. I am sure you are aware about the situation in Eritrea and only as a neighbor , as human being who stands for justice and freedom of citizens, you should be appalled by Abiy’s behavior towards our dictator. C’mon, not even the UAE, Saudis, or Egyptians are that disrespectful in embracing the dictator. His manners were just on your face. Given that, if you want Eritreans to see him positive light, please reconsider. But there is a lame argument that I always hear: Abiy is advancing his country’s interest! Good, and I am doing the same. But it even gets worse. Aby’s touchy-feely relations with our dictator is all about encircling Tigrai. And we know how our leaders are trigger-happy. Knowing that, I see the dangers of evolving Eritrean and Ethiopian youth to die in a never-ending squabble that all leaders have been fond of. (Pls see my position in that context).

            4. And yes, when he doesn’t acknowledge what was his predecessor’s role in the projects but invite the dictator who used to mock projects like the Nile dam as “White Elephant Projects,” he is implying it is his achievement. He doesn’t need to spell it. On the contrary, I suffered from many attacks because I stood my ground on Ethiopia’s right to build the dam. If interred, just ask and I will provide you with links)
            5. You also asked, “Where did he claim this? Did he say it, write it? Where is the proof?” If you want to see an opinion speech to be presented as an academic paper with references and citations, you need to reconsider. But this comment is more elaborated than the simple transcript of my speech. My idea is to provoke people to research the topic and reach their own conclusion. I presented my own conclusion which I can defend in any setting.

            6. You can take anyone to Axum and claim you built it. I can also take anyone to Gondar and claim I built the Fasil Gmb (BTW, I suggest you change that to Fasil Castle. Gimb?) But first, I am not a prime minister and you are not (as far as I can tell). If we claimed that, people will show us the way to Ammanuel hospital. But with power comes the ability to do and say anything. Why do you think the Solomonic kings were able to convince the people that god elected them? Because they had all the power, they need to impose that on the people. It’s not as superstitious as it was in the past, but the tradition is alive: my mother told me I will be a king, therefore don’t be surprised if I act like one. This is mental manipulation and an easy way to create a cult. Our dictator did that to the extent that many believed he could print his name on the side of a hill with machinegun bullets. Don’t you see such trends? I see them.

            7. “(and the suspicion is the money was embezzled by TPLFites) and it is a court case now.” I cannot absolve anyone until a court passes its sentence. But if you are telling me they are the sole culprits as the messages have been claiming in since Abiy came to power, please realize I have been to Ethiopia enough to know. When the economic model of any country that has been run under a command economy like the Derg, and introduced any level of capitalism and investments, there is bound to be rampant corruption which can be ill controlled due to the lack of proper institutions. That is a well-established trend in many parts of the world. Members of the EPRDF could have been overrepresented in the corruption, but it was so wide and all encompassing. And your statements that “prevailing prime ministers […] should be the source of opinions” is true. They control the narration. But unless we are from inside the beneficiaries, we should look at it as citizens not in a partisan way.

            8. “Currently, most of us hate TPLF and mind you we are the very people who cried for the late Prime Minister Meles, with real tears and deep sorrow!” I understand your position and anyone who cries against injustice is my natural ally. But in our discourse here, you defeated your arguments by admitting you already have partisan opinion. It’s not good or bad, it is what it is, only it cannot pass as a neutral view. You are already vested just like I am. What remains is: how do we reconcile our positions? Your type of debate gives me hope. Yet, you asked me for evidences, to prove my views are correct. I explained that above. But you produced statements like, “the vast majority of us love PMAA and hate TPLF with proportional vigor, period.” And you added, “At this moment, The late Professor Mesfine, one of the great people Africa had produced, said in an interview that he believed PMAA was God sent!” Is he yet elect-of-god? Never mind that, but please realize we are not debating emotions here, are we? And please realize I have contacts with every segment you imagine, and my conclusion is: Ethiopia is divided on Abiy. However, every segment also claims, “the majority of us” a qualifier that loses its meaning in such debates. Not all of you can be right nor wrong. And as you said it yourself, “the discussion becomes “mine-is-better-than-yours ” kind of shouting match, and the one who shouts louder wins. Very true. But unlike your claim that, “…public opinion here in Ethiopia is a little too complex for casual analysis. I have not come across a country where some of its citizens do not claim their situation is too complex. Most of the time it is meant to discourage people from engaging. Ask any other Eritrean, Somali, Sudanese or Kenyan, and they will tell you the same.

            9. Finally you stated, We only know that TPLF, as it stands now is number one in the list of Ethiopia’s enemies some in the forum love them and hate PMAA.” I believe the first part is a rhetorical statement with no way to prove it. As I said above, every cluster of people portray their views as a common national view. We always hear such statements from the PFDJ cult. The second part? Please realize there are no 100% consensus on anything among millions. They are bounf to have different opinions and that should be celebrated because the opposite is too dangerous since it leads to totalitarian governance. In short. This part doesn’t fit in your otherwise brilliant argument.
            Thank you Abay. I really enjoyed engaging with you.

          • Nitricc

            But it even gets worse. Aby’s touchy-feely relations with our dictator is all about encircling Tigrai

            Hi SG; “encircling Tigrai” Really? I thought it was about encircling TPLF? wow.

          • Abay

            Dear Mr. Johar
            Thank you for your replay. You are one of the people in this forum whose eloquence and mastery of language fascinate me. This comment is no different. Your argumentation is sophisticated and I had to read the comment repeatedly to extract the gist of it but have to admit I was not successful. I think you and some others in the forum believe PIA is not a good leader and the friendship PIA has with PMAA is an inconvenience and a hinderance in your struggle against PIA. If this assertion of mine is wrong, I stand to be corrected. Me and some in the forum, on the other hand, believe PMAA is a good leader and support him which makes us stand in opposite directions form you. In my opinion, this contradiction is normal and acceptable. This may result in stretching the truth and sometimes inserting truth like ideas in our argumentations to win our cases. That is what we experience many times in many political engagements. This process, however, should not break the boundaries of the truth, civility and politeness. In this regard, I honestly would like to extend my admiration of you “keeping your cool” (I think that is a catch word I grabbed from US visitors here!) Now to the points: First point, the Seventh King, if you do not know the source, that is ok. It could possibly be a phrase coined in this forum to belittle PMAA and make fun of him. Unfortunately, it has almost no chance of sticking. His supporters have another name for admiration that is far popular and is sticking and spreading more quickly. Time will tell. Second point, PMAA, a showy man? Articles, books and interviews on him completely, repeat, completely contradict this statement and it will be hard in fact near impossible to come with valid proof. I can recommend books and articles for more info if you want me to. But this is an opinion that you are entitled to. The third point, you believe what PMAA is doing is wrong is a valid one looking at it from your (Eritrean opposition) point of view. Looking at it from my and my likes (Ethiopians that wish for peace and stability in the country) pint of view, we believe he is the best leader we ever had recently. We commend and applaud what he is doing (although there are lots of rooms for improvement). In fact, one thing we applaud him for with our top voice is his not using Eritrean ports. Many of us here do not want any use of it until vanity on both sides reign and currently, we are way far from it. Many Eritreans kind of overestimate, far exaggerate the port issue way out of proportion and many relation improvement moves are misinterpreted. These two opposite stands of you, your likes and me and my likes, at least for the moment, are irreconcilable and I don’t see any option other than living with them. We pull the rope from the opposite ends and try to sway opinions in our favors. And the conflicting comments continue, is very normal. Your points from four to six, Mr. Johar, all I can say is, “Come on, you are far better than that” and leave them there. I don’t have much to say for the rest of your comments except one thing I want to clear. I know it is hard to convince, but I will tell it anyways. I live in the country and have lots of friends in all spheres: in the opposition parties, in the ruling party, but personally, I AM JUST A REGULAR CITIZEN with no direct political engagement in any of the political parties. I don’t say this to be believed, I only say it because it is a fact. Finally, Mr. Johar, it really is great engaging with you and I always admire your stamina in keeping this forum running.
            With best regards
            Abay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abay,

            First I want to say good to see back and I enjoyed your exchange with Saleh.

            I had commented with regards to the the 7th king where you said “ First point, the Seventh King, if you do not know the source, that is ok. It could possibly be a phrase coined in this forum to belittle PMAA and make fun of him. ”.

            All I can say is I don’t believe it’s a Pharisee coined here. Please google with quotes

            “Mom Told Me I’ll be Ethiopia’s 7th King: Pastor Abiy Ahmed”

            and you can hear the PM telling the story his mother told him himself.

            If you can’t find it I will share the link in the weekend.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Mr. Abay,

            I read your cool comment but allow me to share with you points for discussion.

            Firsly, you are saying you believe PMAA is the best leader ( taking into consideration that there are others who say he is not) and later in upper case you explain that you are a regular citizen with no direct political party engagement. You do not have to be. But by your stand with PMAA you are in it: politics. It is natural for us to engage in politics without being members of poltical parties. We can speak about soccer without playing in the field. In now days you have the civic society who are playing a great role in politics.

            Secondly,your comment has IA as a factor but the episode fouces on his recenet visit to Ethiopia. And I wished that you added your opinon on that rather what we know about IA. It is good to have more froumers like you from Ethiopia for us to know their prespective on matters related to our two countries So, how did you see the visit? Its timing? Message? (PMAA invited IA just after his term ended)

            Let us agree for the sake of argument that PMAA had a goal to send message to the world in general and particularly to the elected regional government of Tigray, that he has the legtimacy to rule Ethiopia, was the invitation to staunch dictator was the right choice to achieve that goal? I wished you touched this to indicate what the “lots of your friends” say about it? Are they OK or some have a concern?

          • Abay

            Dear Ato Berhan
            Thank you for your comment. To answer or not to answer, I was in a dilemma. Why? The questions you asked are very sticky and I have very little inclination to engage in them. I remember I did not respond to questions you asked me last time. Not responding to this one would be disrespectful I thought. I will try to be truthful in my replies although this may antagonize some. The first, I highlighted my non direct engagement in politics just for the sole purpose of SHOWING MY OPINIONS ARE NOT THAT OF A POLITICAL CADRE. The rest of your comments here, I agree with. On your second comment, there are lots of Eritreans in Addis, including in the neighborhood I live. Many of us here invite quite a few of them on holidays, special occasions and assist them. Most are so young they really should not be left by themselves at this critical age of theirs and that pushes us to do what we can. This creates opportunities to learn about what is going on in Eritrea. I do sympathize for the young and the innocent. They are subjected to the doings of their parents. I also understand some of the situation the Eritrean opposition is in. Removing a leader unwilling to surrenders is difficult by itself. Replacing the “bad guys” while at the same time keeping a country functional is now a days even more challenging. Lessons should be learnt from Libya, Iraq, Syria and Yemen. The hardest challenge is how to bring about a “desired change” while at the same time side stepping the pitfalls that brought down Iraq and Libya for example. I do recognize how complex and challenging this is. Ethiopia was miraculously fortunate in this regard. When Mengistu fled and when the government crumbled, the country was stateless for nearly two weeks. Surrendering derg soldiers, armed to the teeth roomed the streets of Addis (and other cities). Most carried guns with ammunitions loaded, had bombs and what have you. They requested for food and assistance and if they got it ok if not, they moved to the next person. There was no use of force, no bank robbery, no looting, the country remained relatively intact until the victors took over. I hope the same will be true in Eritrea if ever there is any forceful government change. On PIA’s visit, you and me agree he certainly was not here on a scholarship trip for an advanced coffee-bean-picking course. But we are extremely happy he came. He could not have come to Addis at a better time. We believe he came to show his support and the people here are happy he did. I guess this is in direct conflict with the interests of the Eritrean opposition. I understand and respect that. Politics is rarely a fair game! We stand on the opposite ends of the political rope. Now on the legitimacy of PMAA, the ladder that put PMAA in leadership was the very design of TPLF and they are the last people to shout foul and shout about it. The very legislation PMAA uses is the one drafted and endorsed by TPLF. Neither when he took office nor when the election time was extended, did PMAA deviate from the law and legalities an iota. TPLF and their cronies are the victims of the very trap they themselves set. Election time extension was requested by the Election Board with a reason. The validity of the forwarded reason for extension was investigated in a formal, legal and due process. With the exception of TPLF and two or three others on the opposition,(out of about 100) the vast majority agreed and even applauded the extension. By the way, if election was conducted without extension, I have no doubt PMAA would win in a land slide. The extension was nothing other than for fear of the effect of COVID 19 on the process. Regarding comments on prisoners, in PMAA’s administration, there is no political prisoner. On the contrary, his records show in black and white that he set political prisoners free. Banned political organizations, TVs and radio stations were allowed to operate in the country. True there are political activists in prison. They are not imprisoned for their political views but for crimes they committed. Being a politician is no gate pass to commit crimes at will, even less to kill or attempt to kill people! Any criminal, politician or otherwise, is equally subject to the criminal laws of the country. And that is the case with locked up political activists. PMAA’s excellence in political tolerance, leadership and his peace living nature, is not something that any bunch of disgruntled irresponsible group can easily tarnish. His credentials have solid validations by the best of the best international organizations including the Nobel Committee. Interestingly, the enemies of PMAA are very stupid. Imagine, TPLF asked for the reversal of Noble Peace Prize awarded to PMAA. They are so dummy and such disgrace not only to Ethiopia, but to the whole of black Africa! Blind with envy, anger and power greed they asked for the unimaginable. How embarrassing! Anyone who echo’s their opinions is simply repeating that ignorance and stupidity. By the way, would you please send me the link to this “seventh king thing if you can?
            Thank you and my best regards to you all.
            Abay

          • Brhan

            Dear Ato Abay,
            You must be mistaking me for someone else. I hardly mentioned the “seventh king” here in the forum or elsewhere. Do you mean Berhe or Salih.
            BTW my message in brief was that Ethiopian internal issues must be solved by Ethiopians themselves. Whether they are solved by law and only by law or by warning the messangers, it is upto Ethiopians. As a neigghbour I want to see peace in the east, west and south. It is only when I see PMAA trying to boost IA the dictator at the expense of Eritrean vital issues that I would like to engage in discussion with Ethiopians. Simply to say if PMAA is seeing IA as a pill to calm his headache , he is forgeting that the pill has many side effect. In fact now the side effect is increasing.
            Thank you and my best regards to you and your all friends.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            What side effects are you talking?

          • Abi

            ታላቁ አባይ
            ደረቴን ነፋሁት ኮራሁብህ በቃ
            ስታስተምር ሳይህ ከጭፍራ ‘ስካለቃ

            የልብ ትህትና የቃል አመራረጥ
            ቁጣ የሌለበት ወይም መገላመጥ
            ለአይን ማራኪ የወርቅ እንቁጥቁጥ
            ለጆሮ ሙዚቃ ልብ ውስጥ የሚሰምጥ

            አንተን መሳይ ጀግና አንተን መሳይ ወንድም
            በህልም ካልሆነ በውን አይገኝም!

            ቀጥል ማስተማሩን አህዛብም ይማር
            እውነት እንዲረዳ ሃቅ እንዲመረምር

            ኮራሁብህ!

          • Abay

            My brother Abi
            Thank you but that is a little too much for me. I really did not mean to get involved to this level as I am doing but sometimes it is hard to resist the temptation specially when facts and truth are distorted intentionally or unintentionally. Now I will be back to my silent reading mode. By the way, did your family return? I was thinking of you and your family on the park inauguration day wishing your kids would be here to visit it. My God! It simply is something. So, you will have one item on your to visit list. My best regards to you and family.
            Abay

          • Abi

            ታላቁ አባይ
            Honored to call you my brother!
            Yes, The First Lady and the boys returned home. As always they enjoyed Addis.
            We are planning to visit next summer.
            Wish you all the best.
            Keep teaching, brother.

          • Saleh Johar

            Dear Abay,
            Thank you. I don’t want to reply to you on the go. I need to sit relaxed and reread your comment before I do. In a few hours when I get back home. Thank you

          • Consolation

            Ato Abay,

            You have to understand the context. The covert and overt allies of the TPLF had waited for a long time for the Weyane thugs to invade Eritrea and get rid of Shaebia. So don’t be surprised if they spray their venom on Abiy.

          • Saleh Johar

            Dear Abay,
            Thank you for the juicy reply—it’s mutual feeling and I am flattered. I appreciated it.

            I understand when one starts from opposite positions, it is not easy “to extract the gist of the arguments.” It’s common. But I tried to be as clear as I can—I guess I failed. Fortunately, your comment was truly clear, and it didn’t take me much to understand it—though this one is not as clear as your first comment. It happens.

            Dear Abay, if we think like common citizens, we will not have ambiguous positions on clear points. For a minute, please forget the “inconvenience” that Abiy unlimited support of a dictator causes the opposition. Let’s see it from other human aspects: is it possible (or morally tenable) to defend the friendship of your leader with a dictator? I know the national interest and similar reasoning, but all crimes against citizens were committed based on national interest. I would think such reasoning must be scrapped off the civilian mentality. As you said, you understand where I am coming from, and I don’t I don’t think you will find faults in my position. But when Ethiopian intellectuals preach peace and good neighborliness with Eritreans, yet when overlook the abuse of Eritreans it creates a confusion in the, in the… what is it? Yes, on the math of the region. That is all I ask—a little compassion not rubbing it in. In fact, what worries me is they you are defending what you called “my side write or wrong” (not verbatim) in your earlier comment. Forget who I am and what I stand for, try to justify that to yourself and I will be content with any outcome though as a pacifist, I would want you to throw away any hat stained by politics. Mano a mano as they say, citizen to citizen. And I commend you for emphasizing “This process, however, should not break the boundaries of the truth, civility and politeness.”

            Now to the points:
            1. The 7th king is moot, but please remember I didn’t see it in this forum, it is all over social media and it’s a topic among Ethiopian friends. That’s what made me curious. Let’s strike that out of our discussion.
            2. I started as a supporter of Abiy, but he lost me a few months later—it happens, and I am glad I discovered it sooner than later. Otherwise, the disappointment would have been greater. I hope you are aware of my reason. But please understand I do not get my information from social media or single sources, I follow all the regional outlets in Tigrinya, English, Amharic and Arabic in addition to common people’s, activists”, and politicians on social media and through friends and family. For every content you recommend to me, I can recommend equal number if not more. But please note I am well informed on what is happening; and I have seen what you are thinking of recommending to me.
            3. A showy man: you and I can see one-person eye to eye and yet one of us would exclaim, “what a humble person!” and the other could appallingly remark, “what an arrogant block!” Obviously, that is happening on our view on Abiy. Let’s live with it and leave it to the judge, Mr. Gzie who will tell us the verdict in the end. But you said Aby “Abiy has “lots of rooms for improvement.” There I agree, he has as many rooms as the number of rooms in a mid-sized town.
            4. I have no problem with you believing what PMAA is doing is good for Ethiopia, I just wish more Ethiopians are willing to recognize our dictator for what he is—we can’t compare numbers because it would be skewed since the population ratio is 1 Eritrean to over two dozen Ethiopians—I can’t be exact because I don’t know how many of us are there.
            5. The port issue is two faceted: 1) as you said, overestimation and exaggeration, and 2) a needle that a sizable number of Ethiopians use as a needle to poke on us. Both are sad. But as for myself, here is my view written years before the topic became sexy for Ethiopian and Eritrean cult members. Please refer to the link below—it’s rather long, so. if time is a concern, please jump to the sub-title “The Usual Transition.”
            6. I agree we keep playing tug of war, but I wish we follow the guidelines of common citizens and not vested partisan politicians
            7. I am sorry you considered my views (4 to 6) unsavory…well, we should expect unsavory dished in a buffet serving. But it is different to come to restaurant that specializes in Shiro and ask for dorro weT. My buffet is all Lentils and the good old Shiro : -)
            8. I am glad you told me you are “JUST A REGULAR CITIZEN” now I can count on you to think like a regular citizen, and sometimes like Saleh Johar who is exiled from his home like hundreds of thousands of other Eritreans. But I also know that the more educated, the more successful career you have, one cannot help but rub shoulders with the upper echelon—I am not saying it’s good or bad, but that is the nature of life. I am sure you realize the places such people frequent are far from the reach of 99. % of the population. And that is what I call privileged—and your level head and education make you privileged.

            Dear Abay,
            I am grateful for this opportunity. Until we meet on another topic, thank you

            Here’s the link to below— Unusual: Asseb Through Djibouti. The article is rather long, so, if you’ve time constrains, please jump to the sub-title “The Usual Transition.”

            Saleh

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi and Saleh,

            To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth. Voltaire 1785.

          • Saleh Johar

            HaileS ,
            Are you sure it’s not truth to the living and respect to the dead? I know that holds true in many cultures and belief systems. But Voltaire knows better 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saleh,

            If Francois-Marie Arouet was going with the flow, he wouldn’t be Voltaire!

      • Selam Abi,

        Some people have only the past that will never return back, Ethiopia has the future. One should allow them to rejoice, because that is all they have. They are at the end of their history and relevance.
        Comparing two years with almost three decades show the biased stand. If the present Ethiopian government builds parks without burden to the country’s economy, free of theft and corruption and plants billions of trees, so much the better. You can’t attract tourists with dirty and unhealthy landscape. They are the property of the coming generations of Ethiopians. In addition, they leave behind no debts for the country.
        Let them wait for some years, let them give him the chance to work, and they may see the result. Even kleptocrats could leave behind something, because they didn’t exist nor did they functioned in a vacuum.

        The good thing about the chinese is that they didn’t trust their money in the hands of the kleptocrats. They constructed every developmental project themselves, wherever they put their good money. Otherwise, it could have been embezzled and lost with no infrastructures but debt burdens, and the looting would have been much much greater.

        If the future is uncertain, they have the past. If they feel defeated today, they have their past glories of killings, incarcerations, torture and looting, they can be proud of till Kingdom come.

        It will take Ethiopia decades to heal herself from the effects of thirty years of onslaught against her very existence. Nevertheless, it seems that she has started to move forward, to heal herself, although her enemies are still fighting tooth and nail. Time is on Ethiopia’s side. “ካልደፈረሰ ኣይጠራም፣”. That’s the way of change. One thing they should have known is that the past is gone forever never to return.

        • Abi

          Hello Horizon
          የደፈረሰው በየዕለቱ እየጠራ ነው::
          ከአቢቹ ጋር ወደፊት!!!

          “ውሾቹ መጮሃቸውን ባያቋርጡም ግመሉ መንገዱን በኩራት ቀጥሏል” ይላሉ የሰሜን ወንድሞቻችን::

          Let the haters continue hating and belittling. We march forward!!
          ሙታኖችን ለመውቀስ ጊዜ የለንም::
          ወደፊት!!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            I love you so much my dear..What can I say? It really, makes me lough high ..What will you say tomorrow when you find out that he is crazy? I cannot wait to see you disappointed at that moment….

            What will be the chance of supporters in coming months? Let us see soon…I am not blaming you Abo,,Yemecheh…

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I love you too ኮኮባችን.
            እናያለን ብሏል ዓይነሥውር :: እናያለን ኮኮባችን አንተ ብቻ ማብራትህን ቀጥልበት::

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

      It is good to hear from you.
      I wanted to tell you briefly that your admiration for Meles is well noted in my book. I agree. However, your charitable praise should be spread around with a little more truthful facts and not fenced in with a partisan angle. It diminishes the praise.
      Haile Selassie did make a great contribution for the advancement of Ethiopia in all aspects which includes the GERD dam, by the way.
      Pm Abiy is moving the GERD to its proper conclusions with all the fires around. Loyal Ethiopians support their leaders by acknowledging their positive contributions and not just highlighting their shortcomings.

      I know that when I see PIA uncharacteristically grins from ear to ear when he visits PMAA, I automatically think about you. You never disappoint me. The mantra of the enemy of my enemy is my friend version is always at play and distorts your mental vision.
      I hope I didn’t throw the truth a little too hard. The record demands it.

      Mr. K.H

      • Nitricc

        I wanted to tell you briefly that your admiration for Meles is well noted in my book.

        Kim; shame on you. The greatest deficiency of Ethiopians, as in general is they never differentiate their enemy from their friends. always confused.The worst thing that happened to your country is Melles. of course it needs sober mind to tell the story.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Nitricc
          the greatest deficiency of eritreans, as in general is they see things as black and white only, they don’t have concept about political differences, they think whatever the Italia, Egypt, Turkey colonialists say is always right and others r wrong, they spend 90% of thier time talking about ethiopia politics as if it will solve all eritrea problem.
          Basically the greatest deficiency of eritreans is slave mentality.

          • Nitricc

            Basically the greatest deficiency of eritreans is slave mentality.

            It is better to be slave than begging and begging culture as of your country.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            Speaking of begging, u guys r by far beggars, u guys r the one who come to ethiopia begging to get a school , a food to eat, a job to work and so on , u guys r beggars in all over refugee camp of the world.
            Ethiopians don’t go to eritrea.
            but no it is not better to be happy slave, it is worst.

          • Nitricc

            u guys r the one who come to ethiopia begging to get a school , a food to eat, a job to work and so on

            Every nation has its wasted citizens and Eritrea sends her wasted and useless citizens to your country because they feel at home. it is a good fit.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            No they r foreigners, most of them came as a refugees and even risking thier life .
            Trust me this ” they feel at home ” crap talk will put the 2 countries where they were 3 years ago, having said that i recognized eritrea historical, language relationship with tigrai, just like the Somali kilil has with somalia , other than that eritrea is eritrea and ethiopia is ethiopia and ethiopia suffered a lot because of eritrea and will never make same mistake.

          • Nitricc

            Teddy; i just told you, they are low life and losers. And Ethiopia fits them very well. Lazy people of Eritrea are going to Ethiopia.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I told u ethiopia is not dumpster for garbages, but if u thonk so , why u r so sad about the deported eritreans?
            seriously, if u believe to see a good relationship between those two countries, be a good neighbor, don’t interfere in internal affairs of ethiopia, think of ur country interests,

          • Nitricc

            Are you Tigryan?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            U r real idoi, little, for real.
            I’m just telling u the truth and I’m trying to protect ethiopia from confused, violent, unstable, pathetic, good for nothing, slave minded people .

          • Nitricc

            I got you; thanks for answering my question. Got it.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            What u got ? u got I’m tigraian? U r such ” sira bet” .

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitriccay..

            Take care of your comments,”Are you Tigryan?” what kind question is it? See, now you are in trouble..Don’t label the one challenges you in such way even if you know..Just give your comment just freely and openly without any label if the opposite one…

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            Hey KS; what is wrong asking if someone is from Tigray? I don’t get it. I don’t see any wrong for me asking if someone is from Tigray. They are specified markers for some one to be a Tigryan. you know. that is why i ask. Now tell me why is it wrong to ask any one if he is a Tigryan? you guys are concluding that Tigryans are ashamed of their identity, witch they are.but Let me ask you; are you Eritrean?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi Nitriccay,

            “you guys are concluding that Tigryans are ashamed of their identity, witch they are.but Let me ask you; are you Eritrean?”

            Who? me or you? Ha ha ha..I don’t have to answer that silly question..

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            Hey KS; hahahahaha why are you not answering my question? I ask are you an Eritrean?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitrrcay.

            Soon I will reply it to you…call me any of the nations..call me anything you want and I will accept it.

            KS..

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            U just changed ur comment from “they feel at home” to because they wasted and they r a good fit in ethiopia,
            I tell u this ethiopia is not a damper for garbages, it is funny u guys fought 30 years and 2 years and now this, what a slave mentality.

          • Yp

            Selam.

            You should focus on the thousands of Ethiopian refugees currently being beaten and raped in camps in Saudi Arabia.

          • Teodros Alem

            Yp
            reread our conversation from the beginning and the government and citizens r working on it and Nitricc is eritrean, not saudi.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kim,

        I haven’t seen the truth in this comment of yours. The truth should be readable, and not camouflaged by ulterior motives. What did I exaggerate on the achievement of economic development of Ethiopia under the premiership of Meles? What did the current bogus leader who came to fulfill the dream of his mother (to be the 7th king of Ethiopia) as oppose to the dream of Ethiopian people has brought any tangible thing to the Ethiopian people, except death and intractable crises.

        Let me assure you this: first a leader who lend his ears to a dictator can only be a “dictator to be” and if he succeeded to be, Ethiopians will pay the price of it.

        Second, the current crises can not be resolved by letting our despot to drive the Ethiopian politics behind the curtain. Take a note on this two points, and we will revisit them after a year, and we shall who will vindicate on the outcome of our arguments.

        Incidentally Saleh provoked my feelings to say few words, otherwise I set myself on the watching mode. Let me go to my observatory site to watch.

        • Teodros Alem

          aman h
          I know it is useless and waste of time to talk to u but u and pfdj supporters r the same and have the same mentally, the only difference u guys have is pfdjs thinks tplf is their number one enemy and u guys think 3A and his supporters r ur number one enemy.
          And we ethiopians know what both of u think.of ethiopia.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear TA,

            He is professional and brilliant man among us..Read his articles and go as I mention to you previously you learn more than you imagine you will no more talk about him..

            You will soon, appreciate him as you will learn more than you know..

            KS,,

        • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

          Do you really know where you stand? Can you serve two masters at the same time, Eritreans and tplf, without loving the one and hating the other? Your struggle is mainly for tplf and the legacy of your demigod, mz, and one can know easily what that makes you. Contrary to what you say, tplf is the true enemy of Eritrea. Abiy is ready to give back eritrean land while you conspire with tplf to stay put and continue to occupy the land and yet you say that you fight for Eritrea standing with and for tplf day and night, which shows that you are not to be trusted.
          Winning against Abiy is not winning against Issayas, as you say, but the triumph for tplf, whom you serve with all your heart and with all your power. It is not going to happen, because your tplf is finished. You might remain without masters next year, or you will find some enemy of ethiopia to serve
          Mz succeeded in betraying ethiopia. That is all about his achievement. Ethiopia’s ailment to day is due to the hate and betrayal of mz. He poisoned the relationship of our people and they are killing each other today for the sake of their identity. He betrayed Ethiopia and her people on many occasions. While mz dreamed to destroy Ethiopia, Abiy dreams to save and develop the country and make her great. When mz said ethiopia is not meant to be, Abiy says she is destined to be a great nation in the future. Be sure, with time she will be.
          Unashamedly you said, “Ethiopians has the habit to bite the hands that feeds you.” What you said is not really important, but the man who said it, because you couldn’t say anything better. You know very well about betrayal and backstabbing when you were working as a mole in addis, and you are doing the same thing today for tplf. Today you are doing it for tplf in broad daylight, the same tplf that occupies Eritrean land, hopes to create greater tigray by incorporating Eritreans and Eritrea. You are acting as a 5th column for tplf.

    • sara

      selam ato amanuel..
      what a relief… good to see you.