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His Excellency Dr. Abiy Ahmed, PM of Ethiopia

His Excellency Dr. Abiy Ahmed
The Prime Minister of Ethiopia,

Dear Dr. Abiy,

Your Excellency, so far, you managed to give Ethiopia a powerful jolt of a positive energy while giving an energetic boost to the politics of the region. You admirably kept the momentum and direction of Ethiopian politics in pursuit of justice and democracy on a path towards peace while ameliorating the risk of civil strife and chaos. We wish you success in resolving the remaining issues of peaceful coexistence, rule of law, and genuine participatory democracy. Truly, between April and September of 2018 Ethiopia went through an exciting experience.

As you are aware, Eritreans are still struggling for peace, national reconciliation, and democratic transformation of our country. We have unequivocally called for the cessation of hostilities between Eritrea and Ethiopia and the implementation of the Algiers Agreement as a prerequisite for peace.

Many Eritreans welcomed your vision on how to bring about peace to the region that rarely saw an uninterrupted decade of no war. Unfortunately, our positive outlook for the peace you preached was short-lived mainly because you framed the neighborly peace and cooperation we struggled for as one that you can achieve through a vague deal that you and Isaias Afwerki make. Of course, we do not believe (and hope you don’t) that the signature of Isaias doesn’t translate to the consent of the Eritrea people.

When you visited Eritrea, duly elected representatives of the Ethiopian parliament who endorsed your acceptance of the Algeria agreement accompanied you. On the contrary, Isaias stayed true to his nature and showed you that he solely decides on all matter of peace and war—and he considers Eritrea his private property, as evidenced by his son accompanying him in the Zalambessa and Jeddah “official” visits. Mr. prime minister, did you wonder why no elected representative of the Eritrean people ratified the agreements you reached?

We believe you are aware that bilateral agreements or treaties require ratification by the legislative bodies of both countries.

Eritrea has not seen an election since Independence Day some 27, years ago. Even half the members of the pretentious parliament (that ceased to function since 2000) were handpicked by the self-appointed president. Today, many of its members are either exiled, killed, or imprisoned. Last month, one of its members, Mr. Berhane Aberhe, the ex-minister of finance, openly challenged Isaias to convene a meeting of the parliament. He also warned him not to sign any kind of bilateral agreement without the consent of the Eritrean people. Five other exiled members of the Eritrean parliament have issued a joint statement supporting his call. On September 17, Isaias ordered his arrest and his fate, like the tens of thousands before him, is unknown.

As we write this letter, Eritreans are fleeing their country by the hundreds and there is no sign of any peace that has suddenly rained on Eritrea. The dictator is still continuing to do what he did for decades—arresting and humiliating Eritreans.

Unmistakably, an agreement requires the engagement of the stakeholders to be sustainable. Otherwise, it is not binding, and it naturally dies the moment Isaias loses power. Examples of such failed agreements abound but suffice to mention the series of peace and cooperation agreements that Isaias signed with the late Meles Zenawi in 1994–they didn’t last more than four years. Unfortunately, the recent deals you signed only gives the dictator a new lease on life. Hence, many Eritreans consider you complicit in perpetuating their sufferings.

A few people who are supposed to know better justify your actions with the pretext that, “Dr. Abiy is working for the interest of his country.” We do not doubt that, but Eritreans will not endorse shoddy deals concluded behind their back, without their blessing, and against their national interest.

It’s disheartening to see many that the Isaias regime victimized for rejecting his belligerence and warmongering attitude are still suffering for rejecting his ongoing destructive policies. The hate and anxiety he promoted for so long are looming over Eritrea like a thick dark cloud. It would be very disappointing if you think Isaias is your dependable partner for any peace because we know he is not. However, please remember that Eritreans yearn for peace and regret the years of bloodshed and militarization imposed on them; they are the true and legitimate partners for any peace deal. They are its endorsers and protectors. We hope you do not expect Eritreans to honor your agreement with their tormentor.

Dear Dr. Abiy,

In the first few days after you came to power, you declared your acceptance of the Algiers Agreement of  December 2000. Implementation of the agreement doesn’t require you to embrace a dictator or cajole him at the expense of the beleaguered Eritrean people. In fact, honoring the Algiers agreement requires you to simply pull out Ethiopian troops from the border area and begin demarcating it. That was the impression and expectation of many Eritreans after your initial statements. However, as the days passed by, you became more ambivalent, and you seem to have difficulty in spelling out that you fully respect the independence and sovereignty of Eritrea. Disappointingly, in your July 2018 public meeting in Minnesota, you wasted a remarkable opportunity when an attendant asked you a question related to the sovereignty of Eritrea. Strangely, you refrained from stating a clear position and instead you shoved the question to the side promising to discuss it with the person in private. That was in July. Since then, did you discuss the Eritrean sovereignty in private as you promised the man? If you did, many Eritreans are curious to know your position.

Dear Dr. Abiy,

For the sake of the peace that you preach, it is incumbent on you to unequivocally state that you honor the sovereignty and independence of Eritrea and cease from giving conflicting statements.  Failing to do so your position could be easily misconstrued by the extremist irredentists who want to take the region back to the years of mayhem. We understand reconciling and rapprochement with your government’s opponents requires you to compromise and make some appeasing gestures of goodwill, but that should not result in a negative outcome, at least for Eritreans. Also, please remember that your partner, Isaias Afwerki, has failed to even establish basic foundations for the kind of peace that you preach.

We truly believe that only Eritreans are responsible for solving their political and governance problems. Until recently, that position was not fully endorsed by the Ethiopian government and it is one of the main factors that weakened Eritreans in facing the Isaias regime. Now that the Ethiopian pendulum has turned to the other extreme, and instead is emboldening the dictator, we wish you will remember that a comprehensive peace is not possible while Eritreans continue to live under duress for 27 years.

We have seen the fanfare, the deals you signed in Abu-Dhabi and then in Jeddah under the auspices of the sponsors of the project whose main goal targets Iran—a Sunni-Shiia rivalry that is neither Eritrea’s nor Ethiopia’s war. Also, an impressive number of dignitaries attended the ceremonies, but they are not part of the peace process, and their mere presence does not legitimize an illegitimate deal. In short, their presence has been to lend the deal some semblance of grandeur and credibility in a genius marketing ploy.

Dr. Abiy, we certainly wish you all the luck in your efforts to democratize and develop your country as long as you respect the wishes and aspirations of Eritreans to be free people and Eritrea as a free neighboring country – a historical fact and a political reality that your predecessors attempted and failed to change through decades of war. Moreover, history will not be kind to you if choose to do the same by exploiting Eritrea’s current weakness, by virtue of giving the dictator a tacit support to continue weakening Eritrea politically and economically.

In closing, we urge you to consider the following seven-decade-old ominous warning that all of your predecessors failed to heed, a warning that when unheeded invariably resulted in Eritrea becoming the Achilles heel of successive Ethiopian leaders:

The Eritrean people’s cause is a just cause of the independence of people who refuse and reject any form of annexation, dismemberment or a return to the hated colonialism no matter what type it would be, whatever form it takes, or from which direction it comes. This indisputable right to independence to which our country is attached cannot be ignored without creating a new area of strife in East Africa, since the Eritrean people will never accept Ethiopian domination. — Ibrahim Sultan, “Statement by the Chairman of the delegation of the Muslim League of Eritrea”, Fifth session Ad Hoc Political Committee, UN. 1950-11-21.

Respectfully,

Awate Foundation

CC:
Mr. Mulatu Teshome, Ph.D., President, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
Mr. Workneh Gebeyehu, Ph. D., Minister of Foreign Affairs, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
Ms. Muferiat Kemal, Speaker, House of Peoples’ Representatives, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
Ms. Keria Ibrahim, Speaker, House of Federation, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia

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  • FishMilk

    Hi All. EP Eritrea Press just indicated that PIA will give an interview tomorrow to Eri-TV at 8:00 pm Local Time on the “significance, progress and regional ramifications” of the historic Eritrea-Ethiopia Peace Agreement.

    • Lamek

      FishMilk,

      Why doesn’t this coward face the Eritrean people directly and address the issues and questions being raised? The questions from the two usual journalists will be like we always hear.

      Kbur president, ezi ab etobia zello lewtitatin miabaletatin b kemey tigmgmo, n ertra ke b kemey yitselwa?

      Nay America policy ab kerni afrika nab kinuu mengedi yemrih allo. abzi ertra zitetsaweteto tera entay eyu?

      Ab kebabina bzuh awontawi lewtitat yire’a allo. ezi ab economiawin mahberawin hiwet nayzi hizbitat ezi kebabi entay yikewn.

      nay Somalia shigr n mhtah ertra titsaweto zela terra entay eyu?

      Fetewtina hagerat kem baal Sauid and Emirates abzi kebabi economic lewti nmimtsae terra’an entay kikewin alewo tibl.

      etc. etc. etc. bs questions.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Justice and freedom seekers,

    Two day back, our sister, Abrehet Yosief, shared a tip about an important message Abba Teklemichael Tewolde read in October at the Church of St. Michael in Segeneitti. People have been reading it in the social media avidly because it’s profound in morality, justice and politics. Perhaps it’s is one of the messages that a true leader of a faith who gets deeply concerned about the sufferings of a population of a country, should dispatch to power wielders.

    This being the case, I anticipated this message would pervade the pages of this forum. But, it’s sad that no attention was given to it. If this would not measure to be relevant for focused debate and discussion in this forum, I wonder what would? Actually, the message so broad in essence and dimension that it should have caught the attention of our Ethiopian friends who grace this forum with their views.

    • Reclaim Abyssinia

      Dear Ismail,
      I was so impressed with his speech, its the biggest talk around Eritrean community. The flow of his speech is way better than Abiy.
      “ንፊኖን ንስሚንቶ”?
      Thanks for bringing this up,
      Reclaim

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Reclaim Abyssinia,

        Thanks for your time to listen to a sermon (manifesto) that deserves attentive listening. The father is an example of what faith leaders should do when entire people of a nation endures deprivation under ruthless dictatorship. It takes moral rectitude, utmost responsibility and courage to issue such kind of powerful statement, which leaders of other religious denominations and faiths must emulate. This bold sermon and its content is something that vibrant and worthy opposition should hasten to take up and mold it an into effective ammunition against the regime.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Ismail,

      I had the same feeling when I heard it, as you said after Abrehet shared. It’s powerful, bold, and concise message that challenges directly to the authority of Isayas Afreworki and his dead regime.

      My feeling is the message of the Abba Teklehaymanit is the continuation of the defiance that started by Aboy Mussa in Acria, which followed by the defiance of Minster Berhane from inside Asmara.

      With every new defiance the regime faces, the challenges are getting louder, bold and clear.

      The next natural steps are, for the young to rise up and to say we have enough and send the regime to the trash bin.

      It reminded me, during the last days of the derg, when the priest challenged Mengistu in his face and told him, he is responsible for all the death, war and destruction and he expected nothing but to take his own life, and leave a legacy if he truely believed in what he was doing.

      I think, it may be the main one of the main reason that he decided to leave, looking at the his reaction and his body laungauge.

      Berhe

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Berhe,

        This message and the personality that has courageously issued it make it a crucially relevant topic that should be discussed as widely as possible, and as vigorously as possible as well, not only in the pages of this forum alone but also in the pages of as many media outlets the opposition groups and elements can access. The genuine seekers of justice should actively use this forum before the regime surrogates try to drift the topic aside as they usually do. The initiative of the revered father is an opportunity that should not be left to pass before getting the attention it targeted – reaching as wide as possible segments of the suffering people.

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Ismail AA,
          BBC Tigrigna has published a summary of it. Radio Erena and Assenna broadcast it. Such bold and wise speeches are widespread. Only some make it to social media. The government takes step only if it looks like people will rally behind it or if it gets widespread coverage in the Eritrean diaspora. We will see what the reaction will be. The usual government defenders are quite, I guess waiting for the “chopla!” signal. Citizens who are educated and who fear a higher authority rather than the immediate government goons are hard to oppress. This is why the government consistently tries to destroy traditional family values and religious education.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Abrehet,

            Thank you. It’s encouraging that widely known outlets picked it. Let us hope there would be across the board effort to spread this important message because it would encourage other faith leaders to shouldering duty and obligation required by their faiths – justice and fairness on the temporal world is gate to being blessed by Grace of the Almighty. The secular milieu has duty too. I mean the opposition and individuals that populate it. It must be taken, as Berhe wrote earlier, as call of the late hero, Hajji Musa, elegantly and extraordinary potency answered by Abba T. Tewolde of Segeneitti. As you have rightly insinuated, the despot might have been alerted and deployed his henchmen and spin doctors to prepare schemes the loyalists will have execute.

    • ሰላማት ኣያ ኢስማዒል ኣኣ፡

      “ነዚ ህዝቢ ልዕሊ ዓቕሙ ዝተዓግሰ ህዝቢ!” አወ ምግፋሉ ሕጂ ኣብ ደቓይቕ ዝውንጨፍ ክውንነታት አተ ‘በስር ኢያ ትምህርቲ ኣባ ተኽለሚካኤል ናይ ቁዱስክ ሚኪኤል ቤተክርስትያን!

      “ሓዲስ ወይኒ ኣብ ሓዲስ ግንአ”
      “ሕድስ ውይኒ ምስ ሓድስ ውይኒ
      ሓድስ ዓለባ ምስ ሓድስ ዓለብ!” ናይ በሓቂ ትምህርቲ ኣምላኽ፡ ትምህርቲ ኢየሱስ!

      ስም ይመርሕ ጥዋፍ ይብርህ ተባሂሉ ኢዩ ‘፡ ኣባ ተኽለሚካኤል! ተክህለሃይማኖት ተኽለሃገር ተኽለ-ሓዳስ-ኤርትራ!

      ፠። ክምለስ ኢየ። ደጋጊመ ‘ስምዓ ኣለኹ። የቐንይለይ ሓፍተይ ኣብረህት ዮስየፍ።

      ጻጸ

      • Ismail AA

        Selam GitSAtSE,

        Yes indeed! you have captured the cream of the cream of the great Abba’s message: “ሓዲስ ወይኒ ኣብ ሓዲስ ግንአ”
        “ሕድስ ውይኒ ምስ ሓድስ ውይኒ
        ሓድስ ዓለባ ምስ ሓድስ ዓለብ!” ናይ በሓቂ ትምህርቲ ኣምላኽ፡ ትምህርቲ ኢየሱስ!
        This is what regime change is in the lexicon of theology. The pot (genie) has become so full of cracks that it no longer usable. It has to be dispose aside in tact or get shattered to piece until it obeys the law of return to origin as particles (Hamed) and dispersed to the air to find place in the God’s soil. By the way, I reiterate someone’s complaint (think it was Haile TG) that you abscond when we need you most.

        • Reclaim Abyssinia

          Dear All,
          Can we get some translation of his speech to English?
          I have translated the highlight of PMAA speech in Germany.

          My Country:-
          እሳት ቢያንቀላፋ ገለባ ጎበኘው! When the fire start to get weaker the Straw start to pay a visit!

          አንቀላፍታ ይሆናል እንጂ አልሞተችም: She might be falling sleep doesn’t mean she died

          ደክማ ይሆናል እንጂ አልተሸነፈችም: She might be weary doesn’t mean she lost

          እምዬ ቀጠና ይሆናል እንጂ አልተበጠሰችም: Dear Mother might be getting thiner doesn’t mean she’s broken

          አገራችንን ታላቅ ማድረግ አይከብድም::

          ተስፋ ሳንቆርጥ ሳንከፋፈል እና: ግዚያችንን እማይጠቅም ነገር ላይ ሳናባክን: ወገባችንን አጥብቀን ከሰራን: አገራችንን ታላቅ ማድረግ አይከብድም::

          Always Reclaim

      • Reclaim Abyssinia

        Hi All,
        A bit of contribution from my side, with the translation of Abba Teklemichael speech.
        ሓድስ ዓለባ ምስ ሓድስ ዓለብ!” new cotton with new spindle
        ናይ በሓቂ ትምህርቲ ኣምላኽ፡ ትምህርቲ ኢየሱስ! The real education of god, is the education of Christ.
        ስም ይመርሕ ጥዋፍ ይብርህ ተባሂሉ ኢዩ ‘፡ Name lead, candle gives light. Or if you have a good name you give light like a candle. የሠም ፡ መብራት ፤-ጧፍ ።
        ኣባ ተኽለሚካኤል! ተክህለሃይማኖት ተኽለሃገር ተኽለ-ሓዳስ-ኤርትራ!

        ሓዲስ ወይኒ ኣብ ሓዲስ ግንአ” new wine in a new barrels
        “ሕድስ ውይኒ ምስ ሓድስ ውይኒ

        • The first time you use a barrel it imparts the most flavour
        • The second time you use a barrel it imparts a lot less flavour
        • The third time you use a barrel it imparts hardly any flavour
        • 4+ times it imparts pretty much no flavour
        Reclaim

    • Haile S.

      Selamat Ismail,

      The honorable Abba Teklemichael Tewolde’s call was the Eritrean version of Emile Zola’s J’accuse plea without using the word accuse or formal accusation. In Zola’s defense speech, the victim was an individual, Alfred Dreyfus. In Eritrea’s case, it is the young, the imprisoned, the livelihood of Eritreans, the present and future of the country. Abba revived words that were lost from Eritrea’s rare public speakers (speach of those who were speaking twice a year, ወድዓዊ ኩነታት) save that of the honorable Haji Mussa, just a year ago. Throughout his speach, Abba used soothing words like ብሱል ህዝቢ፡ ሓቢርና ምድግጋፍ፡ ዝኸበርኩም ደቀይ፡ ኣሕዋተይ ወዘተረፈ… that we never heard getting pronounced except when admixed with threat & degrading. I remain confident that the Awate Team will highlight this event in one way or another. Thank you Ismail and Abrehet for highlighting it.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Haile S.,

        More often than not we, justice and freedom starved Eritreans, complain about lack of leadership. When get them as in the case of this great Abba and Hajji Musa, we renege on our duty to listen and make the best of their example in word, deeds and martyrdom. To be candid to myself and fellow justice seekers, I anticipated for two days after our good sister, Abrehet, had broken the news in this forum by sharing the existence of the audio, that good fellow forumers and myself, who invest so much time on less urgent and important issues, did not respond as needed on this seminal speech and message of the heroic Abba. I listened to his speech more than once. The more one listens, the more he discerns the cruciality of the message on many levels. Actually, one feels the Abba’s concern that public opinion in Eritrea tends to wish more than listen and do. That is why he through voice and tempo of reading the tekst stressed the central issues of his message.

        Thus, we should at least do what we usually do in this forum – participate and, as you said, and highlight the message. The moderators and managers of this forum have offered us the best gift we can think about: space and unhampered freedom to write and post our views with decency and dignity. I still await the Giants like our saay7 (hope he is okay), Dr. Beyan and Dr. Paulos, Yohannes, Ghezae, Amanuel H and many others, including our Ethiopian friends, to broaden the discussion. Many who hesitate to write and post do visit and read material in this forum. The take the word to household and family circles. The discussion would add up to more awareness. Incidentally, thank you Solomon (GitSAtSE) for joining in after fairly prolonged absence.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Ismail,

          Thank you for showing leadership in putting focus to Abba’s speech. I don’t think it’s lack of interest but I think there is lack of knowledge in “what to do next” is the reason why people stay quietly.

          I do believe there should be a concerted efforts in leading people to “what to do next” with planned campaign to keep hammering his message with action plan towards concrete results. I think, what would be best is to move from discussion towards a plan with action. The good people of Awate can help towards that.

          Here is my thoughts:

          I think what Abba Teklemichael has done is really amazing and if we respond to his message, everything would work to out advantage and against the regime. His message is not only highlighting the grim situation of our people, but the real and concrete actions that he is expecting the government to take. And if enough people demand what Abba is asking, then the government will be forced to compel to act.

          – The Catholic Church of Eritrea and around the world, are better suited to speak up and repeat what Abba has started. And they can encourage their members and priests from others churches and religious leaders to do the same and reverberate the message. The priests can also encourage other religious leaders to do the same, speak up on behalf of their people and demand change. If possible record and distribute so others can follow, be it via Facebook, youtube or radio.

          – Translate the speech in English and Arabic and forward to as many news outlets and government foreign desk as possible, including the human rights organizations, such as Amnesty, HRW and others.

          – start a targeted campaign to encourage Eritreans inside Eritrea and around the world to demand what Abba is demanding.

          – Reach out to all the Human Rights Council member countries of the UN and the AU and forward the speech of Abba’s.

          – Support and work with those leading Human Rights Eritrean and other activists who already have the contacts, the network and the experiences to highlight his demands with those that matter.

          How will the government React:
          – The best the government can hope is to silence him and put him to jail. If they can’t do that, the next best thing they can hope for is, to keep quite and after the initial noise, for it to die out, similar to others.

          – If something has happened to him, the Catholic Church and the Vatican will be behind him and PFDJ will be under a lot of pressure if they touch him.

          – The current pope, pope Francis, is for justice and human rights, and for the oppressed, for the refugees, I think more so than others before him. For example, just few weeks ago, I attended a wedding, where the priest spoke about Father Oscar Romero, the archbishop of Elsalvador who was murdered for speaking out for the pure against the regime and the military junta. He was canonized Saint on Oct 14 by the Pope in Vatican.

          Just brain washing my thoughts….

          Berhe

          • Ismail AA

            Selam dear Berhe Y.,

            Thank you for participation and investing time to highlight the extremely timely message of the revered Abba. The matters you have raised are things debating and discussing the substance and essence of the message in the context of the distressing conditions the nation is living through on all levels of its existence should generate.

            Under the aging one-man despotism the malady of the nation is approaching terminal phase. This is the reason why the great Abba, and the heroic martyr Hajji Musa recently before him, had spoken and unambiguously expressed the conscience of the nation in its paramount form flowing from moral and spiritual value systems they represent and guide. What they called for were, and are, that the bells of the churches in all denomination should be tolling, the minarets of all jurisprudential fractions should be raising the muazin’s call louder and clear and the political and social activists – organized and vocal or silent and dispersed – should listen and answer the call of the moment. Every spot in the diaspora where Eritreans live and work should pick this message up – minimum service the can do to help their people Bach home – rally and organize ranks in accordance of the possible.

            The other, I responded to what our SGT had told us in video speech program Negarit 22. I scribbled in cursory comment way that since the Eritreans wasted opportunities to establish national opposition consensus on terms of one all-inclusive platform and action program when the could, time and circumstances should dictate and rethink anti-regime tactics and goal on the basis of what can be done rather than wadinng through thick morass of what is wished in ideal conditions. In positive response to Abba’s brand new message and our great elder martyr Hajji Musa, activists could begin to consider the opposition work in the following way of thinking:

            1. Instead of striving to establish of all-encompassing one forum national consensus, which under current developments in the region face near impossible logistical, facilitational and budgetary hurdles, why not establishing consensuses on regional basis be tried?

            2. This will mean for instance USA and Canada rally ranks and strike consensus to form an effective opposition chapter under coherent commission. Europe and other places such as Middle East, Sudan and Australia do the same.

            3. If all go well and regional chapters make reasonable consensuses based grass roots supported formation, work can proceed to send representatives to all-chapters conference in suitable place from which a coordinating commission could installed.

            4. In addition to mandate to coordinate the inter-chapters affairs on all relevant levels such funds and publicity, it can shoulder responsibility to seek building bridge with activists inside the country, which should constitute the crucial part of the struggle.

            In my view, thus, focused attention to speeches and acts of the type the revered Abba T. Tewolde has made, and the bold stand martyr Hajji Musa had stood, would prepare the field on ordinary and grass root levels to make the ground ready for the passing points I just scribbled. The spiritual and conscientious essence of such leaders do have ears and hearts among popular masses.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Ismael,

            I agree to your well thought out reply. The only thing though, although coordination with different parts of the world is great but it may take time and lose valuable momentum to get it going. So such approach should be look at a medium term and long term plans which starting with the short term / immediate would be good to build on it.

            For example, there are already many who are campaigning Abba message, assena and other radio outlets, bbc Tigrinya and I read there is EriSAT that was launched along with the traditional websites.

            I was thinking, Saay mentioned last time he is involved with a group organized in Geneva that I think had a successful campaign related to human rights, Vennassa Berhe and Seyoum, Ciam Ali,coverage on CNN and petition, Wedi Mahmoud Sherifo and Aster etc.

            I would say, if possible these group can take the lead and those of us who want to help can join and contribute what we can.

            Berhe

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat (Haile-S),

        Emile Zola’s letter to the the President of France titled “I accuse” will remind to many Eritrean victims and families of victims, that when the dusts are settled, to come up with similar letters to plea and observe justice for the crime of inhumanity perpetuated on them for the last two decades. There is no peace without justice and there will be no democracy without peace. Just notice the interdependence of the three concept to be realized. Those of us who are looking amnesty to criminals of inhumanity, history will haunt us for all the miscarriages of justice. Not only that it will be a bad precedence for future justices.

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Awate readers,
    Please listen to interesting sermon given on the occasion of St. Michael’s day. On you tube look for “Abba teklemichael Tewolde in Segeneiti 10, 2018”. It is very inspiring.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Abrehet,

      Indeed more than an interesting sermon. I say more because it’s a balanced spiritual-moral, essence of all-purpose justice and thorough political statement manifesto that boldly expounded the nation’s mood and conscience. On behalf (though unprounced) of the entire nation on all social levels, the honourable father had challenged the authoritarian regime with undisguised warning that its officials have become a worn out rag without seam that can be knitted with the new.

      The regime has become anachronistic in ideas and relevance, and it has become already too late to be around. The good father has demonstrated what a conscientious religious leader should do and be. I hope others of all faiths would follow on his step. Good God protect him from the wrath of the despot. Moreover, this manifesto of religious father would embolden the secular segments of the country on all levels.

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ኣብርሀት ሓውተይ፡
      እስማዒል ሎሚ እንተዘየዘኻክረናን፡ ብእኡ ምኽንያት ናብታ ቅንዕቲ youtube መልእኽቲ እንተዘይምራሕ፡ ምሳኺ ክናገር እንዳተዳለኹ ነይረ። መልእኽትኺ ርእየ ናብ youtube ምስ ከድኩ፡ ኣባ ምስ ቴድሮስ ምሕረቱ ዝገበርዎ ቃለ መሕተት ሰሚዔ፣ እዛ ኣብረሀት’ሲ ድሓን ድያ፡ እዚ ድ’ኣ ስብከት ጥራይ ዶ ኣይኮነን፡ እቲ እንጽበዮ መልእኽቲ መኣስ እዩ ዝመጽእ ብምባል ዳርጋ 3 ጊዜ ሰሚዔዮ። ሕጂ ግና ዕድመ ንእስማዒል፡ ኣብታ ኣድላዪት መልእኽቲ በጺሔ። ዝኾነኾይኑ፡ ናተይን ናይ youtubeን እምበር ናትኪ ጌጋ ኣይነበረን። ብሩህ መዓንጣ ዝመልኦ መልእኽቲ! Thank you!

      • Ismail AA

        ሰላም ሃይለ፥
        እዞም ኣቡን ኣረጊት ክዳን ምስ ሓዲሽ ክዳን ኣይስፈንዩ እኮ ኢዮም ኢሎም። ንሱ ድማ ካብ መንፈሳዊ መልእኽቲ ዝክተልዎ ሃይማኖት ጠቂሶም እዮም። ነዚ ስርዕት ኣሪግካ ኢኻ ምስ ሓዲሽ ወለዶ ክትላገብ ኣይትክእልን ኢኻ ተሰወር ምቕዘፍቲ ከየርክበካ ኢዮም ኢሎሞ። እሞ ንሕና ነዚ ቅዱስ መልእኽቲ ተቀቢልና ናብ ከማና ምብጻሑ መበእታዊ ተራና እዩ እብል።

        • Haile S.

          ሰላም እስማዒል፡
          ሓቕኻ፡ የግዳስ፡
          ንጉስ እንተርኣኹ ጥራዕ ጥራዕ ይመጸኒ
          ቀሺ እንተርኣኹ ተናዘዝ ዘይኮነ ተኸራኸር ይብለኒ
          ኣባ፡ ኣመንቲ ናይ ዘይኣመንቲ የተግብሩ፡ እንተበሉኒ
          ዘይኣመንቲ ናይ ኣመንቲ ሕጊ የኽብሩ፡ ይመልቆኒ
          ናይ ኣቦይ ናይ ኣደይ ዘይኮነ፡ ናተይ ዕጫ ኮይኑኒ
          እታ ናይ 10 ጥቅምቲ መልእኽቶም 100% ትሕሸኒ።

      • Abrehet Yosief

        ሰላም ኣያይ
        ለካ እንዶ እታ በዓልቲ እንዳኻ “ተመስገን። ምስ ኣምላኹ ተዓሪቑ” ክትብል ሰሚዕናያ።

        • Haile S.

          ክብርቲ ሓውቲ፡
          ኣስሒቕክኒ! ተራእዩኒ እኮ ኣብ ደገ ወጺኣ ከም Ste Teresa d’Avila ውንኣ ስጋብ ዝጠፍኣ ብእልል ክትዓብድ 🙂 :-),

  • Sisay Kebede

    I wish you had made it clear ,if your uncomfort is PIA or the agreements he made. Here are some of your conflicting views. On one hand you seem to be happy with the Alger’s agreement which is done by the very same president, and then you claim that ,should Ethiopia makes any agreement with Eritrea would amount to nothing but null and void.Regarding Eritrea’s aspirations, of staying as a sovereign state, all the blames should go to tplf,which faught hard to install their surrogate in Asmara, but found itself dismantled, so I urge you to redefine modernism, and stop finding a plot from every mundanely activities.

    • Tesfu

      Hi Sisay kebede,
      “The blames should go to tplf and Alger’s agreement done” You see what you are wrote. The agreement what was done, is binding. Is he sticking with it? For how many yrs DIA used this line as outright demagoguery. And blame it on the boogie is very convenient as looking down

  • sara

    Dear Ethiopians..
    congratulation, another milestone in Ethiopia//// the president of Ethiopia is a lady.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear sara,

      You have good reason to celebrate with the Ethiopians. An era of “firsts” has been usher in Ethiopia. First woman head of state, first women-speakers of two chamber legislature, first woman defense minister and may be next first woman prime minister in which real power resides. Many countries in Western Europe must take note and catch up.

      • Haile S.

        Good day Ismail et all,
        I hear you loud & clear. There are no lesson takers in our leadership, only bad-lesson givers. ገይሮምና ንዓና በትሪ መወጣወጥቲ፡ ንኣሓትና ኣወል ቡን ደበስቲ።
        Congratulations to Ethiopian women and to all Ethiopians.

        • Ismail AA

          ሰላም ሃይለ፣

          ናትና ገዲፍካ ተዛረብ ሃይለ ሓወይ። እዚ ጋነን ሰብን መሻርክቱ ክዝሕሎም ከሎ ብኢዶም ክውዕዮም ድማ ብማንካ እዩ ስረሖም። ኣብ ግዜ ሞትን ኣገልግሎትን ደቂ ኣንስትዮ ነጻ ገርንስየን፡ ድሮ እኳደኣ 60% ካብ ሰራዊትና ንሰን ኮይነን ኢሎም ነዛ ዓለም ብዙርያኣ ብፕሮፓጋንዳ ከምዘይ ኣብለኹዋ ፡ ምስ ረሃዎን ስልጣን ምስ ዓትዓተን ደቂ ኣንስይዮ ኤረትራ ኣደዳ ድኽነትን ጭቆናን ገይሩወን።

          እዚ ውሒዱስ መደበራት ከፊቱ ኣደዳ ግብረ ስጋዊ ድፍረትን ከደምቲ ወተሃድራዊ ሓለፍቲ ገይሩወን። ናይዚ ኣደርዓት ሕማማትን ናይ ኣእምሮ ጭንቀትን ዘጥቀዐን ኣደታተን ይቅጸረኣን።

          ሎሚ ጎደናታት ኣስመራ ዘጽርያ ስገኣን ወዲአዝነቀሳቀስ ዘሎ ኣስከርየናት ዝመሰላ ፍጡራት ደቁ ኣንስትዮ ኤረትራ እየን። ዲያቆናት ፕሮፓጋንዳ ገባቲ ስርዓት ወይዘሮ ፎውዚያ ሃሽምዶ ምኒስተር ፍትሒ የላን ንምባል ኣይቅደሙን። ግን ዝበልዐት ከብድን ፈሊጣ ዝተዓጽወት ሕልናን ሕፍረት ትበሃል ኣምር ቦታ የብላን።

          ናትና ገዲፍካ ተዛረብ ሃይልያት።

    • Reclaim Abyssinia

      አብያቼን ቀለደብኝ,
      አንዴ ሲያስደሰተኝ,
      አንዴ ስያሳዝነኝ
      አንዴ ተሰፋ ሲያሰቆረጠኝ
      ልቤን አያንጠለጠለው አራንባና ቆቦ ሲወረውርብኝ ,
      እንደ ዮዮ ላይና ታች ተጫውቶብኝ,
      ምድረ ፋራ ዘሩ ዘሯ አያሉ ሲያደንቁሩኝ,
      በዚህ የፕሬዝደንት ምርጫ ልቤን አረካለኝ

      Reclaim

      • Selam R.A.,

        What do you make of the other news that the new digital ID card will not contain ethnicity and place of birth? In my opinion, it was a big crime to include ethnicity, because the genocide in rwanda was facilitated by the ID which contained ethnicity.
        No doubt those who introduced ethnicity in to the ID card knew very well the danger of identifying a person according to his/her ethnicity in a country divided on narrow ethnic ground, beyond their aim to divide and rule the people.
        The new initiative is meant to decrease the possibility of identifying a person’s ethnicity and thus expose the person to danger, at least to a certain extent.
        I hope ethiopians will come to learn that they are all the children of one God and they all belong to the human race, and at one point they stop this b* that they belong to this or that tribe and village, as if it is important.

        • Reclaim Abyssinia

          Hi Horizon,
          I absolutely agree with you. The new proposed digital ID card should not contain ethnicity information, but not sure about the place of birth.
          The availability of that information in the wrong hand could cause outrageous action by the herd mentality of most Ethiopian public. It can be very dangerous to others and themselves. I said the herd mentality because of the Ethiopian people intend to follow a leader right or wrong.
          I still can not get over the renounced citizen of Eritrean people origin get justified with this and that reasoning by some if not many. I trust Ethiopian peoples are great in attitude, polite, caring and loving. Their only problem is their misleading leaders.
          Going back to the subject of digital ID, does he really know what the heck getting himself into?
          Is he trying to take advantage of outsourcing the project to create overnight millionaires or is it essential to go digital at this stage?
          To continue answering your question with a question, I think the following and many more points need to be looked at in depth before going digital.

          Is digital identity systems are “revolutionary”?
          How do you handle violating privacy?
          What is the measure in terms of security and access control over data?
          Is cyber-protected?
          Where is the limit “digital birth certificate?”
          Data breaches are becoming more common and victims often have no knowledge of how their data is being used, is there a policy in place?
          Victims of digital identity theft (bank account, DOB and usage of email ID)?
          Compensation and insurance?
          Is the public ready for digital data? public awareness (Please help me type my password)
          Who has access? Delegated access

          Cheers,
          Reclaim

          • Berhe Y

            Hi RA,

            You really nailed it. If you have digital ID, you also need some system to read it. Typically a police would need to see for example, how would he read it? Is he going to equip the police with computers or some sort of machine that can read the ID? And how much is this going to cost? I think, instead, they should focus in creating a good I’d that can’t be easily duplicated, with water marks and all.

            I think the ID should have, Name, Address and date of birth, and some sort of unique number. If the constitution grantees free movement of people and have the right to live where ever they wish then, no need to specific ethnicity or any other information.

            Berhe

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Thank you Berhe Y,

            A number of people were complaining in Addis about the outsourced taxation system to an Indian company and it’s monopoly over equipment supply including printers. Winning tenders can be a very profitable business in Addis, it’s the current trend that can make overnight millionaires.
            Cheers,
            RA

          • Berhe Y

            Dear RA,

            I really do not the African leaders. If it was up to me, I would completely ban any software purchase of any kind by government entity all together and force the use open source. And have the country develop its own programs and engineers to fix and modify things they need, with extreme cases hire consultants. Even today there is a huge resources on open hardware that almost anyone can do pretty much anything.

            And all these outsourcing does not create any jobs except middle man (delala) like you said squeez the country out of valuable hard currency.

            Any private entity can what ever it wanted because they know how to sober their money.

            I think well meaning people like with vast knowledge should start discussion forms and create society of different experts and professionals and publish advisory articles etc.

            Universities should be leading the efforts with media playing a role in holding government accountable to the people.

            Is there independent auditor general, that checks the government spending?

            In Canadian parliament there is what’s called “Question Period” which occurs in the parliament each sitting day, where the government is asked question and must provide answers. I think it’s the best part of the political system where the government is held accountable. Similar to British Question Time but there is slight difference.

            Berhe

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear Berhe Y,

            I am a big fan of open source, the problem in Ethiopia is aid money. Many people might not be aware of this, but some of the aid is in the form of license, Microsoft license, Oracle, etc.. Once you hooked you can’t go back.
            The cost of all associated services and equipment are the major source of corruption. I will question the motive behind the idea of digital ID. What could possibly be the motive for such a poor country to advance itself by digital frontier that cost hundreds of millions to deploy and maintain?
            1. Having control over the people of Addis to the maximum (virtual prisoner)
            2.collection of fingerprints of every citizen in Addis
            3. Data collection & it’s manipulation
            4. Central management (one man power)
            5. Get rich quick scheme (our turn)
            6. ወዘተ ተረፈ
            RA

          • Selam R.A.,

            Place of birth, directly or indirectly, can point to one’s ethnicity. In addition many ethiopians were/are born in other ethnic states. They are seen, especially under ethnic federalism of today, as outsiders, and by third parties as if they belong to the ethnic group of their place of birth. The ethnically oriented herd mentality is not going to worry about such details, when it gets violent.

            I am not sure if i have completely understood your point here. If it is about ethiopian citizenship for eritreans who lived in ethiopia, if the two governments were not lying to them during the referendum, such problem may not have occurred. The right to vote in the referendum was given only to those who called themselves eritreans, and not to the whole population. This showed that eritreans were both eritreans and ethiopians, while the ethiopian constitution does not allow double citizenship. If you can vote for another country while the rest of ethiopians were not allowed, this showed their double citizenship. Even today they can have one of the two citizenships, but not both, as long as the constitution says so. Nobody could be above the constitution.

            All the points you mentioned above are relevant, but much more important for developed and sophisticated societies of the west and others. It is a big question in europe and usa and others, although i think that it is already too late. There is nothing the big brother and governments do not know about each one of us through the internet we connect with everyday, social media we use, mobile phones we use to chat, and others.

            Let me give you two examples i have read. A young lady who wanted to know about her FB use over twelve or so years, could not believe her eyes when she finally won the right and got all the information. She was so horrified about the information and pictures of herself she had uploaded, and there was nothing she could say she privately knew about herself. The other case was a german gentleman who again went through court to gain all the information about his mobile phone use over years. He got pages and pages of information and maps of the calls he made and the places he visited with date and time. It was beyond belief.

            Now, about the ethiopian government: do we know about the technologies it has already imported from china and israel to spy on its own people? If there is anybody who has to worry about digital ID in ethiopia, it must be the 1% of ethiopians who own the 99% of the country’s wealth, and not the rest.

            Removing ethnicity and place of birth are the first and important step to close the pandora’s box opened in ethiopia. Its advantage is much more important than its drawbacks. Ethiopians have not much to lose compared to western societies, and there is no way to avoid technology.

            If ethiopians are to save ethnicism and do away with ethiopianism, which does not necessarily mean centralism, and could as well mean federalism, for example on regional basis, as the usa, germany and many other federations, there will come a day when they would realize the utopia and the false dream they lived in, when they realize that they have become the property of a group of landlords and warlords. I believe that not even resource rich oromia is going to prosper as an independent entity. Ethiopians should look at the future without selfishness, and not at the past. It is the reflection of the stage of the country’s development, and if it is going to have a hopeful future ahead or not.

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Horizon,

            Just trying to clarify my point about the “deported Eritrean”, which I call it “revoking of their citizenship”, I think this matter is agreed by many that are not only cruel but illegal, yet, we still have the confidence for reasoning & justification as if that evil act being right to certain level.

            I’m not sure if your scrutinising of the legal interpretation, and its complicated technicality can be suggested as simple as you state it on your post.

            The simple fact is that we still try to put forward every possible justification to justify the unjustified, and that have some kind of unintended implication.

            I think we need to change, and start to own up our mistake, admit our cruelty and motive, be accountable for our action, apologise or make up for it; and then we can move on. By doing that we will be exemplary to the next generation and will help to avoid from history repeating itself. Until that day, I don’t think the displacement of people based on ethnicity will ever stop in our region. It will always be a problem. The first people got displaced from their warm home because of their ethnic background are the Amici, so look who’s following that same action, this will continue until a strict action and accountability take place, possibiliy compensation by the aggressor.

            There is a great poem written by the German Lutheran pastor called

            “First they came …”

            quoting from wiki

            ” It is about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis’ rise to power and subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group.”

            First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

            Because I was not a socialist.

            Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—

            Because I was not a trade unionist.

            Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

            Because I was not a Jew.

            Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

            I will discuss the other points sometime later on the day… at the moment, i’m socialising off-line 🙂

            Cheers,
            Reclaim

          • Selam R.A..

            The “deportation of eritreans” and “revoking their citizenship” are two different things that were put in the same box for a reason. Revoking citizenship was used by tplf to commit the illegal action of deporting ethiopian citizens of eritrean origin, because it served its purpose. MZ felt so omnipotent and above the law to dare say that he can deport anybody for the color of his/her eyes.

            I was talking of “dual citizenship’” and the ethiopian constitution. The two regimes (tplf and eplf) hid from eritreans and did not explain to them that the referendum was exposing eritreans to the issue of duality of their citizenship, and when tplf found it handy to use it to commit its crime, it applied it, something it ignored up to that time.

            In my opinion, as much as citizenship was concerned, the legal thing was to tell eritreans to choose between the ethiopian and eritrean citizenship,as long as eritrea is independent and the ethiopian constitution does not allow double citizenship. Those who chose the eritrean citizenship might have lost certain rights because they are no more ethiopian citizens, but not the right to live in ethiopia, unless they wanted to move to eritrea by themselves.

            I think that Japanese americans did not lose their citizenship after pearl harbor. Of course, they were taken into internal confinement, which was also illegal, and yet they did not lose their american citizenship and they were not deported, from what i know.

            It should be known that the ethiopian people were not part of this illegal act. It is completely owned by tplf. Maybe it started with the amici as you say and continues today with ethiopian ethnic groups, nevertheless, again even the internal displacement we see today, is the result of tplf’s ethnic politics of divide and rule.

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Horizon,
            Great explanation, however, I am not going to buy as the act of TPLF only. I mean it’s important we don’t use this as current political issue advancement. I know what time it is.

            I remember watching one of the recorded video of parliamentary house discussion, how some guy was explaining to the parliament about his great undegrad thesis and his analysis of the AMICI.Insulting hundred of thousands of AMICI people…and he was not TPLF.

            I also want to emphasise about the people that still think the action is justifiable with different reasoning. I also don’t remember demonstration and condemnation taking place by the diaspora.
            I know there is a lot of regret now by many…
            I’m not saying it was not condemned individually, but the unaffected people didn’t come out in mass. I think the AMICI coped with it alone. I guess you know where I’m going with this..
            All this displacement and hate preaching in Ethiopia have to have accountability, such as the introduction of massive fine to the local government by the federal, introducing compensation for the victim, and etc….
            This need to start with an official apology to the AMICI and government need to compensate regardless of how little or big that can be.. Then, and only then, the local government will take a serious action on people that cause displacement. At the moment its ok, because even the federal government get away with deportation and confiscation of people pension.
            I really don’t know what the intention of that dude with digital ID, I don’t trust him a bit what about to do in my city!
            Cheers,
            Reclaim

          • Selam R.A.,

            Let’s look at the crux of the matter. Who was ruling ethiopia at that time, and who was giving orders? Was it not the tplf government masquerading as eprdf, a group of impotent political parties created by tplf itself to rationalize its totalitarian rule? Whose wish was fulfilled? Wasn’t that of tplf’s and even that of eplf until they broke up.

            What is the importance of a man doing errands for tplf for his own interest? If the government that deported eritreans, i.e. the tplf government riding the eprdf trojan horse, and the person who gave orders to deport eritreans was MZ, and tplf is still a political party, who else do you think should apologize? The ethiopian people? In addition, who else but tplf knows where the property of amicis went?

            If ethiopians came out en mass to oppose tplf’s actions, how many hundreds if not thousands would one expect to have been shot dead in cold blood, when agazi forces killed almost 200 addis ababans in broad daylight in 2005? Those were the days when people were afraid to come out of their homes, because they were not sure if they would return back safely. These were the days when people would get heart attack if somebody knocked at their doors after dark.

            As much as digital ID is concerned, maybe we will discuss more when it starts to circulate. In my opinion if somebody sees your ID and can have no information as to your ethnicity and place of birth, when ethnicity is used to commit a crime and undermine the nation, i think it is a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, ethiopia has to pay when she cannot do it by herself. Those who blackmailed ethiopia with a rwanda like genocide may also not be heeded anymore, God willing.

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Cool Horizon,
            Yes, you do have a point.
            Its important for me to also consider the vibe & propaganda of some of the people, which lead things towards this unpleasant regrettable, shameful action especially in the eyes of the rest of the world. I can not change being Ethiopian, I can not change being Eritrean, I want to keep my head up and be proud, like everyone else.

            The vibe of the people is an important indication of what to expect in the future.
            That’s the part I would like to reiterate about the herd mentality…, the people can be misguided very easily.
            No matter how a propaganda presented to us, we should always act for good of everyone, we must not prompt something we will regret in the future.
            We should not prompt something that can cause a serious damage on another fellow citizen or fellow human being.
            Me and my friends we get really well when we talk about Africa unity or black people unity, but we can’t get along when we debate about the deformation and propaganda of hate promotion, towards a certain group in Ethiopia, and I found that a bit awkward.
            Regarding the digital ID, the selling point is removing ethnic identity, but you are not paying attention for what to follow behind the selling point. It’s completely rejected by the people in the country where I reside. UK, was proposing digital ID that includes DNA as well, by the name of avoiding terrorism.. That was the selling point to invade people privacy.
            People who care about its people should scrutinise the government.
            You obviously love your country and people, take the time to do the research with the con and pro of the digital ID.
            Best wishes,
            Reclaim

          • Blink

            Dear Horizon
            The Ethiopian people in most regions have protected Eritreans from weyane luckies in fact many Ethiopians have done more than they can to protect Eritreans and their property , I hope their brave work becomes a bridge to build more good relationships. One family in Gonder saved one Eritrean property for 20 years , not only that this family renovated the Eritrean property and rented it and the money was flowing every month to the Eritrean family in USA while weyane luckies ran to change Eritreans property to their name and rope everything they can .

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Blink,
            True, true, Ethiopians are highly regarded people, I can tell you a lot of stories and it’s undeniable.
            No government has ever reflected the great virtue of the Ethiopian people. I sometimes wonder if the Ethiopian leader actually knows its own people well. The action of the government doesn’t reflect its people.
            I think with this current change we need to lobby the value of Ethiopiawenet!
            We need to respect the very important valuable magical two word that reflects real Ethiopia, that we should all practice proudly ” ነውር ነው!!!!”
            I was lucky enough to travel across most part of Ethiopia as a kid, and none of these terrible things that are happening in Ethiopia would be supported by any of the respected father and mothers, regardless of their ethnic background.
            Regards,
            Reclaim

          • Selam

            There is always good person and bad person. In Addis there are many people that keeps the property of their Eritrean friends well and renovate it if needed and send the money through different channels that they get from rent. A good example is my parents house. At the same time there are a lot that they are denying them, even some of them they have a family tie. A good example is my wife parents house. This good and bad deed does not relate to the ethnicity of the person. It depends on the personality of the person, even not to the relation you have. There is a lot of cases in Eritrea that denies their brother and sisters property.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Brother Blink,

            Read bellow Selam post “There is always good person and bad person” That is perfect one..really watch your words and be honest with people around you..Look,

            KS,,

          • Blink

            Dear RA
            The best way to tell them , I could not agree more. I think we need to do more to explain the evil work done by weyane about this issue. Now an Eritrean who got deported from Mekele is battling out with one weyane colonel about his property , the case is going to the federal government.
            Plus all Eritrean tracked in Mekele are being cheated their plate number by Tigrians so that they can go to Oromo state safely up until now 35 Eritrean track plates is being cheated .

    • Kaddis

      Dear Sara,
      In addition to the exciting fact of having a women president; the government is gradually retaining highly qualified professionals in the structure. It’s also encouraging for countless professionals who wish to serve but fears the political rejection.
      Maybe there’s hope to see the government (civil service) structure and the paralysing party structure separation going forward.

  • Selam All,

    The ethiopian president. M.T., to resign. What is happening in ethiopia? Doe anybody know?

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Horizon,
      If you, an avid observer of the Ethiopian political scene, do not know, how would you expect others like me would know?

      • Selam Ismail AA,
        Nobody knows everything, and everybody’s opinion is valuable and should be considered. There is always something to be learnt. That is one of the biggest lessons in life.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Ghirmay,

    A couple of points that I would like to make.

    Italians had respected ERITREAN culture, language and religion. They had no intention to make us forget and erase our identity.
    For example:

    1) The Orthodox Church (enda mariam) and the grand mosque they build in Asmara, right after the cathedral. To me it’s the respect they had for who we were. The second point

    2) Land ownership:
    I don’t know all the details but they didn’t appropriate all the lands to themselves. It may not have been fair but they took the lands they need to develop the cities and the farms but they left the majority for the locals to use as per their customary laws.

    3) They created lots of jobs and people were not slaves but actually worked and saved money to make someone if them selves. There were many Eritreans who were working as public servants, as business owners etc.

    4) there was for a short period of time, some segregation where Eritreans can live or move around etc but I don’t think that lasted for too long.

    On HS

    I agree with you he must be the really stupid and cruel as far Eritrea goes. Here is some of the worst mistakes he made in my opinion:

    1) he lived in the UK during the war time for 5 years and you think he would have learned something about their parliament system and how to govern. He had ample time and so much example, where monarchies were transferring power and making successful public governments (Japan for example) and you would think that he would have done the same for his country. But instead he hanged on to power until the last minute and never learned anything from the attempted failed coup that eventually will happen.

    2) In Eritrea rather than learning from Italians how they respect the social fabric of the society, he tried to completely wiped out ERITREAN official languages of Tigrinya and Arabic and replaced it with Amharic.

    He also thought he can wipe out half of Eritrea population from the law lands and replace them by Orthodox. But the stupidest mistake of all is, how he didn’t figure out and pick a fight with the people who owned the sea outlet (people from the law lands). If anything,he should have accommodated and should have been the nicest to them, more so than the people from the highlands.

    He really gambled Ethiopia’s future and I think he lost and made the whole generation pay for it.

    Ethiopia was probably equal or above to many countries at that time, Singapore,Indonesia,Malesia, S.Korea, most of Europe, all of Africa, India, China, etc.

    Berhe

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam girmay
    horizon never make any sense at all, he never did for me.
    The thing is,first u have to understand how empire created and become a nation and than u will know what it means HS’s rule towards his empires.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam girmay
    In the eye of hs, tigrai is nothing but useless occupied territory (“gebare”)of ethiopia empire.
    In order to understand the rule of his administration, u have to know what is feudalism means.
    Hs doesn’t made tigrai part of his territory for him to serve tigrai.
    The reason he made tigrai part of his territory was tigrai to serve his empire, Not the other way round.
    But since tigrai has nothing to offer, it didn’t contribute nothing for the empire.
    And u have to know how empire become a nation, and the difference between empire and a nation.
    In the eye of hs, tigrai is a conquered part of his ethiopia territory, part of ethiopia empire, not his people.

  • Selam Germay,

    HSI, “the dumbest king”; i wouldn’t say that. I would rather say he was one of the shrewdest. The way he ascended to power and remained in power show he was extremely shrewd, unfortunately, not for the good of the people.

    PMAA was asking last time, why don’t ethiopian rulers visit the countryside, provinces or regional states, as they are called today? It is a fact; no ethiopian ruler really visited the country outside addis ababa, and that was the main reason they did not know about the country and the people they ruled.

    The famine in tigray was the main reason HS was deposed and finally died in a mysterious way. He was the famous lion of judah, king of kings, outside his country, but a failed ruler within his country, who threw money and bread to his people as if they were dogs, when he went out of his palace to sodere and nearby places. He was an emperor who misused the love and trust of his people. In my opinion, he could have made ethiopia great, because he had the whole nation behind him. Instead, he made the country an example of a biblical famine.

    It was one of his ministered who said it is “rubbish”, when asked by a journalist about the “ራብ” in wollo and northern ethiopia. I cannot be sure, but it was said that he borrowed 100mn$ at around the same time, and the money never came to ethiopia, and went directly to his secret account. If HS was not a backward feudal king, and even worse during his 50 yrs rule, ethiopia would not have passed through famines, wars and destruction, and the political instability the country is passing through today that has created this precarious situation for her future. The few oppositions he had did not really seem significant to affect his rule, if heeded to change, or become a constitutional monarch, or even leave the throne to his son.

    As much as what one can gain from the colonizer, simply, it is not necessary to be colonized and forced to become a second class citizen in one’s own country to be able to acquire a knowledge that most of the time was not more than the knowledge necessary to serve the master. China was not colonized to become what it is today, or many other countries. I for one see no positive side in colonialism, if we take in to consideration what africa, and countries like india and others lost to colonization. What italians did in eritrea was never meant for the indigenous people, but for their own plan to stay in italian east africa for a thousand years, reminiscent of the ancient roman empire. A pro education ruler could teach his people without any problem. On the contrary, the ethiopian feudal lords uneducated as they were themselves, of course, did not want to educate their people, and the few educated were satisfied with their class difference when compared to others.

    Under HS, all ethiopians, irrespective of their ethnic group had the same fate, except the city dwellers. The difference in rural ethiopia was mainly if they had a fertile land and ample water or not. Even then, it never gave them security.

    HS would not have survived for so long if he did not have the support of the feudal lords and their associates, educated or uneducated. It was all about class, as always. Like all strong men he was intoxicated with power without contest from others. His legacy, (well, i stopped for a minute or two to think), i couldn’t come with any. As much as the introduction of education is concerned, i wouldn’t say it was his achievement, but forced upon him due to the changing world and out of necessity to be able to run the bureaucracy. All in all, he could have done a lot more, when one looks at his acceptance by almost all ethiopians, he could have changed ethiopia and left behind a great legacy, but unfortunately, it was never to be.

    Finally, I want to reiterate that, except the feudal ruling class and the elites in general, i cannot say that there was any ethiopian ethnic group that benefited under HS’s administration. Injustice was done to all, some more, some slightly less, nevertheless, all lived under the injustice of a feudal monarchy.

    • Saleh Johar

      Ho Horizon,
      A king (or anyone else) should be defined and described by his worst traits. Don’t you think so? For me, shrewd is not the first word (not even the last word) that comes to my mind. Cruel and Monster is the word for me. 🙂

      • Selam SJG,

        You are right. You, who lived under the atrocities of HS and feel it so deeply, and i, who lived under the atrocities of the derg, have our no.1 and no.2 monsters, nevertheless all of them monsters, and that i think is the reason the word monster was not the first word that came to my mind to describe HS. Nevertheless, both were our demons over the last half century and more, and their repugnant legacy will continue to affect both people.

  • Nitricc

    Hi DS you said
    “Who has given you the custodian rights to monitor this site?”
    Then I ask you, who gave you the custodian to tell people
    “you should better off with the likes of Dehai and Tesfanews.”
    By the way what is wrong with Dehai and Tesfanews? People, chill out.

    • David Samson

      Hi Nitricc,
      Real time example:

      Twenty years ago, people who opposed the regime in Asmara were on a minority, so when ever there was Eritrean gathering, we had left with two options: either do not socialise, or cave in to the demand of PFDJs. Many people were unable to express their feelings for fear of being ostracised and isolated. We can only free express our views well away from PFDJs venues. I have lost counting how many times I had a brawl with so many people and were banned from so many cafes and restaurants. Why? Because I was refused to be bullied by these thugs. When I asked my friends to confront them, they refused for fear of isolation. They also felt that we, the opposition, who went to their cafes and gatherings, not them coming to us.

      As the supporters of PFDJ had started to dwindle, some of my friends showed some courage, but still felt uncomfortable to express their views even in non-PFDJ gatherings. You see, if you do not confront bullies even from a distance, they will slowly and gradually will come to your own yards. Unlike the bullies, I encourage them to join us, they are Eritreans, after all. They are free to express their support for the regime in Asmara. I do not have any problem with their views, so long as they have to accept that they can’t intimidate and subject Eritreans to submission. Since the peace process, they have shaded their bullying traits and become indifferent when we attack GOE. I know you and many others on this site support GOE and are allowed freely to express your views. Do you think we could even last for few minutes in GOE’s sites if I were to use the same language to describe PFDJs? No way!

      So, my point is, I do not have to be called names and fell uneasy for expressing my views–irrespective the contents of them– as long as I abide by the rules of the site. I should fell at home, particularly on an opposition site. As in real life, I do not take any one to bully me for expressing my rights. These rights are God given to me and thanks for Her majesty for creating conducive environment.

    • Blink

      Dear Nitricc
      You see how he is winding down to the known corner , I argued with Girmay who is a Tigrian that weyane deportations was no match and said there was no such action from Eritrea side . The horror our brothers and sisters carry to this day is simply under reported by PFDJ and also by the opposition. About these who got deported by weyane Not a single article you can find about the humiliation they have in due to weyane horrible eye color problem. Here David is saying there was the same treatment for Ethiopians in Eritrea , he openly is making lies about this . Now he wanted to make the issue between opposition and PFDJ , my argument is , the deportation of 90,000 Eritreans and billions of birrs roped by weyane luckies should not and must not be an issue between opposition and PFDJ . The guy wanted to make it as if it is an opposition and PFDJ thinking we didn’t know his old game .

  • Blink

    Dear David
    Mention the name then you will know how I can disprove about any villa owned by a Tigrian which you alluded to be confiscated and the owner no where to be found . It is known by international organization Res cross that all Ethiopians were sent in proper way and you can find this record if you care but since you are making defense to a weyane case of the eye color thing you go on hunting to find one Tigrian lady in London ,did she also used Eritrean case to get her papers in England ? Who is Paulos , the weyane ዕንሹ ? መገዲ ከረን ?

    You see David you are not only a lair but also an idiot who wished to get married by weyane limousine . Look I am saying everything was done way way better and it was done thoroughly by Red Cross and this is a known fact . Caught red handed ? How is that even in to your weyane DNA ? You didn’t bring anyone except a known weyane lies .

    Who are you to say to people not to come to this site ? Are you as good as your lies again .NO ETHIOPIAN PROPERTY WAS CONFISCATED.
    You are far worse than YG and Agazians as you go along with many faces under skin of lies which is a habit for weyane box.

    • David Samson

      Hi Blink,
      Do you think I am stupid enough to disclose the person’s name? Your stupidity knows no bounds. Go to your spies Embassy and ask them if they confiscated Ethiopians’ property. Since you are keep referring to me as a Tigrayan, what is your ethnicity? I do not think you have one and you are not certainly an Eritrean? You might be one of those Jebelis who immigrated to my ancestral land across the Red sea and settled in Eritrea . I warned you not only to go personal, but also not to use my name on your comments. I am going to toe-to toe with you and see who’s going to blink first. I do not take bullying lightly.

      • Blink

        Dear David
        You already blinked at the above comment so to say you will wait to see who blink first makes the above comment redundant at the highest level of idiotism from the malelit land of deceit . You already mention the place where the villa you claimed was confiscated and on top of that the Tigrian lady who sold this lies claimed her father was no where to be seen because of his Ethiopianess which false from the get go.

        I have to ask though I know ,why you wanted to sale lie of weyane while you know people are not dumbfounded by weyane lies ? Listen you smart of your kind , here people are not like you think are , i can actually bring numbers of Ethiopians who get repatriated through an international organization ( Red Cross ) by date and the places they went through while you are trying to balance out the crime committed by weyane . There are two ways of returning people to their home land .
        1. Repatriation, which is an international acceptable process where people get humanly possible way of going back , in which most I mean 99.9 % of Ethiopians were repatriated through RED CROSS , here they sold their property, withdraw their money and lastly save journey to their home land in a right address.

        2. Deportation, this process can be legal sometimes but at the time of war deportation of weyane was inhuman where many people especially infants, children, elders , pregnant women got shipped like sardines from Morocco across the see sandiwiched , do you have any clue how many people died in the way ? Do you have how many innocent Eritreans lost their life time property to weyane ? Do you know how many of Eritreans property is under weyane luckies like you as we speak ? No you have no clue by design.

        What toe to toe is that you are talking about ? First we are communicating through forum which is not physically possible for you to speak to me with words like ሑዚ , ቦዚ ,በበይ in most part I will need a translator because I am not familiar.

        Ok ethnicity , ahm , I know you will run to that because back way in ages your founders of the Abay and Sibhat has been perfectly clear about that , assumptions about people is not political it is just taking account of their words and that is what I am implying to you . Again this has nothing to do with your ethnicity.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi @george,

    Did I say Lindsay Graham is a saint? Did I say anything about him, his character or his record?

    What I said was what he wanted to do “MBS must go he said”. Does he has the power to do it, well he is with the law makers and if he convince enough of them, then he can get the president to do it. Is it likely, NO. But that’s how things work….may be you need to educate yourself….how power / politics work in the US.

    Berhe

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Girmay.
    I dont see any connection between dance and your beloved tplf’s acrobatic nature. When tplf had used eprdf as a camouflage your slogans were how to break Eritrea’s backbone so that it could never raise finger against the almighty Tigray. And now when greed kicked Tplf back to Mekele you remembered the Eritrea you sabotaged for 20 years, In short what you are telling us is that lets blame all the evils done in the last 20 years on the ghost eprdf and start all over again with love. Peace is good. Bilateral relation is supper. But relation without trust is dangerous. If you dont acknowledge what tplf has done against Eritrea do you think the relation will be a lasting one? What if Tplf changes its mind just like 1998?

  • ghezaehagos

    Selam Awatistas,

    I would like to add the following on Berhane and his books and Hayat.

    Berhane is in detention. That fact should silence and sober us.

    When a citizen’s rights are curtailed, our response should be championing for his release and freedom. Even when that person has written terrible things about a racial group.

    Hayat is genuinely incensed because her perspective has always been, unapologetically a Tigrayan elite. It is not about Ethiopia and I am pretty sure it is not about Eritrea. It is about keeping the interests of Tigray first. I am not saying she is not Eritrean; I don’t know her and none of us can presume; but I am sure her positions coincide with what we hear from the powers to be down South. Please note that there is nothing wrong about it; but it helps to understand her posting. Examples abound at this website. I was told TPLF, in one of its commemoration, listed EPLF’s role in 1984-85 to deliberately starve the people of Tigray to death as one of its momentous challenges. The alleged incident is little known to us, Eritreans. But previously someone wrote a brazen posting on this alleged incident. You don’t have to guess. It is Hayat. Our constitution’s preamble is bad but EPRDF is forward looking. Another Hayat’s blunder. When it comes to keeping TPLF elite positions, she has been unapologetic.The sad thing is should they be mutually exclusive?

    I repeatedly endorse Berhane’s books. They should be read to understand the man, his world view ‘extreme left’ and his defiance against the Isaias regime. Written in 2015, Berhane fortunately has supplemented some pages to the prevailing peace process. His central theme is to expose Isaias ultimate objective: to destroy the Eritrean statehood. Once a fringe hypothesis “Isaias ms hizbi Eritra Qim alewo’ of the great Milikas Mihreteab is a theory that is gaining momentum especially after Mesfin Hagos’s explosive revelation and the bizarre spectacle of Isais and Abiy’s Excellent Adventures.

    Berhane cites examples to prove Isaias actually hates the Eritrean Ghedli (‘a very insightful observation’ from a fellow fighter’) and doesn’t want to be reminded of Eritrean patriotism. He acknowledges and pinpoints the unpreparedness for post-1991 when every fighter focused on Ghedli itself not the day after Friday May 24, 1991. You can feel his regrets of the missed opportunities. He at length talks about institutions and institutionalism and how Isaias ‘the Ethiopian Eritrean/ or Eritrean Ethiopian’ as he calls him clearly wants to destroy whatever institution the nation has. He sends messages to every stakeholder (the military, members of national assembly, ministers, the youth, etc) to reverse the course of the nation. He said Isaias doesn’t want to convene the national assembly because if he did so, he will be removed from power by democratic process. Berhane appears a great believer in rule of law and you can he is confident Eritrea has the institutional foundations for vibrant and democratic state. It is just the ‘Zeragito’ ‘hurricane’ Isaias (another term he uses to describe the leader) hits the poor nation 365 days a year. He is optimistic the Eritrean people will prevail against the tyrant in Asmara.

    There are certain important facts to bear. Berhane is a long time EPLF veteran and that reflects heavily in his background. He is a far left who sees the world as governed by interests of few and that even western democracies are sham. More to home, he is an ardent nationalist (probably ultra) that sees conspiracy weaved against Eritrea by the bigger Ethiopia state, Amhara, Tigray-Tigrigni etc.

    It is inevitable those who want to teach Eritrea a lesson or two or break its back, like Hayat would find Berhane’s assertive nationalism hard to swallow. He didn’t do any favours by including provocative statements against the Tigray people.

    In all probabilities, Hayat would be satisfied if Berhane showers praise on Isaias and TPLF. As long as he showers love on TPLF, the rest are secondary. For us, what comes first is Eritrea; for her it is Tigray.

    Bears repeating; Berhane was wrong on his statements to describe the people of Tigray. We would like to chastise him; correct him, challenge him. Yet, we don’t even get that chance. He didn’t even get the chance to be challenged to issue apologies and make amends. He didn’t. He is detained. A fact that is dangerously overlooked, if not forgotten.

    Would the incarcerated Berhane be vilified by Hayat and others if his negative statements were against other racial groups? I doubt that. There is a resurgent identity politics running amok in the Zeitgeist of today’s Eritrean opposition. Eritrean Nationalism is attacked as creation of EPLF while ethnic nationalism is on the rise. Agazian, the Bihre-Tigrigna minksas etc are fuelling a new narrative. Eritrea is a multi-ethnic political entity and any experiments that doesn’t recognise the nationhood of Eritrea and the full rights of all its citizens would embroil it in another mess. Resurgence of identity politics is not an answer.

    In essence, I was told to choose between Berhane and Hayat. I would choose a victim of Isaias regime at any moment; especially one who spoke truth to power. I stand with Berhane and I endorse his books.

    In this ostensibly Eritrean opposition website, there are variegated views from Amhara, Ethiopia, Tigray, PFDJ etc. Well, for solely learning purposes of what the TPLF elite says, I thank the Awate for giving us their voice, through Hayat Adem.

    In conclusion: personal safety is the priority comes first. Let us champion for safety of Berhane first.

    Ghezae Hagos.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Ghezaehagos,

      First, I must thank you for the birds-eye view information about the content of Berhane Abrehe’s books. This is useful for people like me who have not yet read the book. A broader and objective review of the books (I am still betting on our saay7) would do good to readers and Berhane who, as you wrote is incarcerated and actually nothing known about his condition) is not in position to defend his work and comment on flauws and uncalled for and disruptive remarks had made which some readers found vile.

      Having said this, however, I must restate (at the risk of repeating myself) that the author’s personal proclivity and flauws should not make us myopic to the public affairs purpose of his books. He should be held accountable to his weaknesses and flauws separately. A farmer who had toiled so much to prepare his field for a seaon’s crop and later finds some growth and productivity hampering weeds need not clear the whole plot.

      Unfortunate that Berhane was not alerted on time about the reprehensive remarks about our Tegaru brothers and sisters would affect the weight of his work, we must not be thwarted from seeing the cruciality of the books at this critical juncture of our nations existence when a treacherous despot who had had hidden and unpatriotic agenda for so long is now openly out to auction it to highest bidder. The onus is on us Eritreans about what to do about the real liability the despot has become.

      Thus, whatever the problems, the books should be defended and not allow the regime and its equally vile surrogates to diminish their value. Everything should be made to enable them fulfil the purpose and intent they were written for. The gist of the matter, at least for me, is that, and while unequivocally admonishing the author for his unwholesome remarks about Tigrai and its people, is that he deserves credit for making clarion call to the nation in the way he did and the means he had used.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Ghezae,

      You said: “Isaias ultimate objective: to destroy the Eritrean statehood. Once a fringe hypothesis “Isaias ms hizbi Eritra Qim alewo’ … is a theory that is gaining momentum …”

      Even though your assertion has a mystic appeal to many people, it still remains a hypothesis of the worst kind i.e. a CONSPIRACY THEORY.

      Unfortunately for you, conspiracy theories are made up of a sequence of events involving many people and many events that have small probabilities individually [the probability of an event is between 0 and 1]. So, for the conspiracy theories to be true, you need to multiply all the probabilities of these sequence of events which ultimately approach zero.

      Isaias is spawned by Ghedli, and Ghedli is spawned, mainly, by the Eritrean Urban elite. Desperate times trigger desperate thinking. You need to deal with this issue rationally and not descend into the realm of superstition and voodoo practices.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Girmay; You said ” Nitric, who attacks Tigreans by using Tplf,” you are wrong. I don’t need TPLF if I had something to say about the people of Tigray. The reason you are saying this is because when once attacks TPLF thugs i.e. it is an attack in the people of Tigray because TPLF means the people of Tigray. That is it, here you have it. The difference between me and you is, when people attack PFJD I don’t take that as an attack on the people of Eritrea. NO. Now, let me give you an advice; the sooner you get rid of TPLF the better you are. You are falling behind in Ethiopia’s new makers and dealer of Ethiopian political. Go there and be part of the change. Stationing in Mekele will get things worst, at the end of the day, you were a big part of the struggle to get rid of Derg. TPLF is corrupted, old. outdated and unable to fit in todays politics. TPLF will go down but the question is will it take you down with them or go down alone the point and it is going to be the decision is up to you and the people of tigray. Once again TPLF and the people of Tigray are not the same!!!!

  • David Samson

    Hi Girmay,

    You are too polite to say, “Italian colonization had positive side”. I would argue it was overwhelmingly positive. Yes, in this day and age, it is political incorrect to say it. Personally, I am fed up to my neck hearing and blaming colonisers for African woes and ills. We have been using colonisation as a convenient political tool and often self-indulge ourselves on it.
    My mind keeps switching between being optimistic and pessimistic whenever I follow the news of the world . While I see Euro’s zone and Brexit crisis and when the media paint doom and gloom scenario as if the world would end soon, my pessimistic mind could easily switch to optimistic mode when I witness Europeans could come up with solutions to avert any doomsday scenarios. However, my mind has been refused to go to optimistic mode when it comes to Africa.

    I sometimes watch Eritrea comedies on YouTube. Either the company that makes these videos or series is called ‘HDMONA’. Most of these videos are filmed in villages. All I see are mud houses and everything is either mud or stone. Human beings and animals sleep under the same roof. This was how Italians found Eritrea. They built it from a scratch (Yes, I hear you are saying they did not do for us).
    If you now look at the current state of Eritrea, it has been going downhill since the Italians left. Italians had built sewerage systems, clean water, electricity and many other amnesties. It is now so difficult to argue that this country was once a colony of Italy as nothing which resembles the original infrastructure left. Everything is turned in to ashes. What more saddening and depressing is that Italian government was willing to repair the sewerage systems and other services. However, the guerrilla fighters had different idea: we are self-reliant junkies and do not need your help, or just give us the funds or piss-off.
    Italians gave 50 years of stability. If Italians had not arrived, the Habesha land would have been on the verge of bloodshed and massacres. So, when I see the country is sinking by a day and I get depressed, I say loudly, bring back the Italians.

    • Selam D.S.,

      This may as well serve as an open letter to matteo salvini, the fascist deputy pm of italy, who hates to see black people in the streets of italy, and calls them slaves, to go back to eritrea and reclaim his father’s and grand father’s right to colonize and enslave eritrea. It must be an exclusively eritrean phenomenon that the italian colonizer was welcomed in the past and is welcomed again in this 21st century, when the legacy of colonization is abhored by everybody, even the descendants of the colonizer. The italian colonization and enslavement is remembered more or less as the eritrean renaissance.

      Funny, nobody seems to react to this preposterous assumption, all because the italian colonizer was forced to leave behind asmara, built by eritrean slave labor in which eritreans did not spend the night unless they were servants or maids, and the rest returned to their villages after sundown. It was wwii that helped eritreans to own asmara, which the eritrean askaris fought with the italians to resist it.

      Other africans, like ethiopians, have nothing good to remember. The three day long genocide in addis, where 30K ethiopians were murdered and torched within their homes, the hundreds of thousands that were killed and gassed, saddens them a lot. The congolese have to remember the 10mn murdered by king leopald of belgium, and the namibians are trying to repatriate the thousands of skulls of their ancestors who were murdered and their skulls taken to germany for anthropological studies, and are found in a museum basement in berlin, and they refuse to return them back. Africans have to remember the resources and slave labor that helped the development of europe, the millions of africans evicted from their fertile land and left to die of hunger and disease, so that the land becomes the whiteman’s plantation, etc, etc.

      Do you think that all of these have no impact on what is happening in africa today? Is little rome, asmara with her sewage system, running water and electricity, enough to whitewash italian colonialism, the slavery and the apartheid system in eritrea under italian colonialism? Were the askaris and the ordinary eritrean treated in the same way, so that one is nostalgic of italian colonization?

      Why all human beings are not at the same stage of development does not mean that the underdeveloped are a lost case. There is no so called perfect society. The easiest thing is to accuse others, while doing nothing oneself, and while admiring somebody else’s achievement.

      Maybe you are saying that the blackman does not deserve the land he lives on, deserves no freedom and no rights and he must be enslaved by the whiteman. If you bring back the italians, please keep them north of the mereb.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Horizon,

        Nobody is protesting against David’s preposterous assumption because it is essentially driven by anger, however bewildering his thought is. I am not condoning or defending him. Nevertheless, there are speechs that keeps you speechless, and it is the case with David’s comment.
        But, I couldn’t keep speechless on your comment, because your attack on Eritreans comes up frequently when opportunity presents. This time too you didn’t miss the opportunity to generalize and paint negatively all Eritreans by saying “It must be an exclusively eritrean phenomenon that the italian colonizer was welcomed in the past and is welcomed again in this 21st century, when the legacy of colonization is abhored by everybody”. Eritreans never called Italy to save them. Italy came at an opportune time of war and hunger and devastation of our region. Some leaders of the region including from Ethiopia proper submitted to Italy to respire some air of peace. Abyssinian army fully depended on the local people to feed itself. Imagine 3 major wars, GuraA, Gundet and Dogali with a persistent army during all those periods. The people and the region was completely devastated. Following the defeat of Yohannes people as far as Gonder came to the Massawa region for grains brought and distributed by Italy from India, because they had nothing to eat at home.
        In 1935, Dejazmach Hailesellassie Gugsa Araya-Sellassie Yohannes, the gradson of king of kings Yohannes and son-in-law of king of kings Hailessellasie, voluntarily submitted with his whole army to Italy and was elevated to Ras by Italy and his army became Askaris. Am I going to say, this must be an Ethiopian phenomenon? NO WAY. The changing of allegiances be it for a whilte man should be viewed in the context of prevailing situation and we should avoid painting negatively a whole pupulations. While part of what you said is spot-on, your degradation of Eritreans is deplorable.
        Thanks

      • David Samson

        Selam Horizon,

        It would have saved you a few minutes of your time if you just asked me to reread all the books which are gathering dust on my book shelf– I have over 10 books on colonisation and the evil of capitalism. Do not you also think that it would have much easier for me to have taken the shortest route: in the comfort of my house, I could blame colonisation, trump, unfair trade and the rest– 24/7/365? That exactly what I have been doing all my life. How do I sell your feelings to Venezuelan family with 8 children? I do not think anyone will buy it, so let’s try a different marketing strategy. I have been arguing on this site that patriotism does not buy you dignity, honour and food. I am sure you have been following the Hondurans’ immigration to USA. They are not interested in reading history, but to live a dignified life.

      • Blink

        Dear Horizon
        How could You ? I mean really, is that What You can do with Your Tigrian friend David , impressive was your thoughts to David .

  • Blink

    Dear Girmay
    I don’t think you understood the magnitude of the matter ( the work of TPLF against Eritreans ), you see I’m Eritrea no Tigrian was abused or his house confiscated, they all were allowed to sell their belongings if they wanted to go to Ethiopia on the opposite Eritrean pregnant woman was removed from hospital and gave birth in a police minibus , child was taken from school and shipped to Eritrean border without mother or father , Eritrean story is real and it is not fair for you to make it similar with the Tigrian falsely constructed lies .

    Remember, I am not looking for agreement with any one in this forum as it remains filled with full of lies just to make the group list.

    • David Samson

      Selam Blink,

      “you see in Eritrea no Tigrian was abused or his house was confiscated, they all were allowed to sell their belongings and were sent to Ethiopia through Red Cross”

      The above statement is bluntly lying. I personally know many Eritreans of Tigrayan origin who have disappeared and to this day their whereabouts have not been known. I know a girl who lived near Cinema Odeon and now lives in London. She has not heard anything about her dad’s whereabouts and the villas has been illegally occupied by Ex-fighters. Some of the Ex-fighters are turned in to day light robbers.

      • Blink

        Dear David
        For you it is lying because you have a big weyane tree on your blood line . Mention one factory that was owned by Tigrians in any where in Eritrea and was confiscated? Mention any place that you have in your mind because everything was done through Red Cross . But since you have grown old with weyane lies you have to act wildly as the lies incubated inside are not just lies but as a DNA structured by weyane .

        Remember there were weyane spies too and there were people caught doing evil things at water tankers and there were also people who celebrated the Asmara bombing plus the big celebrations of Barentu thing . Ask anyone you know , every Tigrians who were send to Ethiopia were through Red Cross and their name as well as money can be tracked in the records. Ask your Tigrian friend who live in London if her father was in any way against the state of Eritrea at the time of war . You see David there was zero confiscated property or bank account of any Ethiopian. Any story you heard otherwise is lies for the day.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Blink,
        I have to agree with Daviid, you might not have witnessed it but it was there. It was the same dirty measures on both sides.

  • Reclaim Abyssinia

    Dear Girmay,
    I sure put my hand up for reconciliation.
    If you believe we are two different people, then I can tell you that, My Eritrean side, my side of Ethiopian, my Djibouti side, & my virtual connection to Sudan, believes we are one and we LOVE to be one people & at the same time respect the ideology of two countries.
    It’s unfortunate that we had to divide because of our warrior nature, ignorance, and greed(I don’t blame the world).

    Anyhow, we are already moving forward with a bright future of peace, with or without the economic prosperity. What’s holding us back from our politician end is, too much analysing about the economic benefit, which I really don’t give a “rats a*s” about money! Money means nothing, except materialism.

    just to add-on some opinion, there were a number of other Eritrean, apart from Asmara that you mentioned on your post, who hasn’t fallen under the influence of the Italian colony & it’s industrialisation. Correct me if I’m wrong, but, didn’t many Eritrean used to travel to Egypt, Sudan & middle-east for many years, & i’m certain that a lot of Eritrean attaineded Al-Azhar in Egypt & it’s University, instead of Italian Catholic education.

    The renounce Port-Adulis, wasn’t the world trade port, traded peacefully with the middle-east, all the way to Adigrat, Enticho ( ህንካ ጨው), & Gonder? Shouldn’t these people be with Eritrea or not? Ahh, I almost forgot that we have to respect the virtual map of colonisation, I guess we can do both, respect (brother/sister hood & the line at the same time).
    I think we need to turn on the time machine and go back in time, & restore what we had good in the olden days.
    I don’t think people got killed for trading salt in Enticho, I also don’t think the Gonder people were killed in Adulis for using the port. When is the true history of Afar, Saho, Tigere will be told… just for the purpose of peace, why always people love to embrace only with what they think is their own.. ..
    You brought up a great subject “reconciliation”, I think in need to start “within mind-set”

    Tx,
    RA

    • Reclaim Abyssinia

      Hi all,
      What’s hot?

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      2) የመከላከያ ሚኒስቴር:-

      * ጠላት የመከላከል ብቃትን የማሳደግ

      * ብቃት ያለው የመከላከያ የሰው ኃይል የማዘጋጀት

      * ባህር ኃይልን የማደራጀት (Build the navy)

      ኤፍ.ቢ.ሲ ጥቅምት 12/2011

      *How Secure Are the World’s Food Supplies?

      *Iran fired six ballistic missiles at targets in eastern Syria, on October 1.

      *Fateh-110 ballistic missile strike reveals a dangerous new level of precision. The Fateh-110 was developed from Iran’s Zelzal-2 unguided artillery rocket essentially through adding a guidance system. Later versions of the missile modify other aspects of the missile and improve range and payload.
      RA

  • bardavidi

    The Powers Behind the Changes.
    The change in Leadership in Ethiopia and eventually in Eritrea has other backers behind the scene……….Its part of the Realignment of Affiliation, and regional muscle-flexing Fueled by both Saudi , UAE, and assisted by Egypt who are the Bonafide Super Powers of the Region to Counter the Previous Influence of the Muslim-Brotherhood Stronghold that was Funded and Led by both Turkey and Qatar…………Both Qatar and Turkey have lost favor first In Egypt. then Eritrea and Ethiopia as well as Djibouti and are in a last Ditch alliance with Somalia to secure the Building of Ports and Military bases. Also the rise of the Ethiopian Economy from a merely 8 Billion to nearly 100 billion in short 15 years and the easy access of Fresh water, Agri. products and Oil will play in to the Security of the Region in General…………All that would not be workable out side of a Peace deal that includes Eritrea at least for now……………..Selah

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Girmay.

    You see no matter happened you never change. Your first two tiny winy paragraphs say it all..There you used Ethiopia instead of Tigray and the rest is just to butter up Eritreans for the new project how to use or abuse Eritrea in case tplf couldn’t forced to stop its looting and eventually come to court.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    Cultism vs. Responsibility

    What is a cult? Have you been in a cult? To answer the first one, you may reach to something you learned about, heard about or explained to you by someone else. And for the second part, your answer may be a sure NO! Think again.

    It may be that many of us are products of a cult and continue to perpetuate it for not knowing any better. We’re all born to parents, into a family. Parents choose your name, your faith, your mode of education, what to eat, what to dress, who to be friend to, who to talk to or not to talk to, how to talk, how to act, how to interact, what to become in life, how to live a life and more. A loving cult! By default, the young child is bound to such conditions. Until at least the child is “independent”. However, what is considered independence actually becomes nothing more than entering a wider cult: schools, religious indoctrination, political indoctrination, cultural assimilation into the wider society and what have you. None of these spheres are organized to foster “independence” other than justified, plausible, palatable dependence. Schools and education reinforces social conditions, religion reinforces accepted values of a psycho-physical universe, politics reinforces a set of ideology, society reinforces cultural norms and so forth. Your role is to dispense support, fellowship, camaraderie and sticking to it-ness. Where does independence exist in all these.

    The family, by default, can’t prepare us for anything else than to go and find a bigger cult. And any other cult we’re involved with is no different from everything else we’re involved with under the same set of conditioning.

    The true mark of breaking free from cultism is not rejecting one form of cult and downgrading it, while we’re in the same state of conditioning under different cult (albeit opposing to the one we reject). Hence, the trues mark of freedom from cult is Responsibility to one’s own and objective reality in life. To be an organism that explores its environment and makes fresh observation every time it comes in contact with it. Responsibility that knows and abides by its own reality and not imposed dogma from someone or somewhere else. The route of responsibility leads to a community of responsible individuals. As everything in life moves towards more complex organization. But this same organization poses the risk of robbing independence again to put us back to square one. Thus responsibility not only initiates us to challenge the cultism that necessarily surround us from birth, but also to guard the new found independence from relapsing into another glorified cult.

    The democratic path is ideally premised to be the stage for such responsible mode of citizenry, however, as it is amply evidenced even here in the west, even democracy itself is not necessary and sufficient condition to rid oneself from cultism. Many democracies can be seen in a cultist mode as far as their relationship to the rest of the world. Therefore, the struggle is for the individual alone.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Thank you haileTG,

      I am going through this question to answer,,I came to conclusion that every one of us came from corrupted society,,We here all to learn now we have to come to the final accept that our educational fallen from what we are supposed to be at this moment.. I is an evolution slow development what man was doing and now man has to make a leap to where he will use his mind to the maximum,,I mean it.

      KS

    • Selam haileTG,

      Being part of a group, community, cult, and herd, with its own rules and regulations, may be encoded in human genes and even in all animal kingdom. Maybe this is how human beings and animals managed to survive (acquire food by hunting as a group and propagate their kind by living together as a group). Through human history they developed their own language, philosophy, politics and world view and the desire to choose and trust those whom they think are their own.

      The terms, “them” and the “us” is still the norm of societies all over the world, even after millennia of human civilization. Wars, genocides, colonialism, anti-immigration, anti-multi-culturalism and all sorts of crimes and oppositions, are caused due to this distorted viewpoint, the concept of the different and superiority of one clan over the rest. In this 21st century the rise of the new cultism, that of the far-right, white supremacists, neo-nazis and neo-fascists have no other explanation other than the group, cultist and herd mentality.

      The idea of the free individual as part of a free human society is now demeaned, demonized, and the previous status quo and the establishment attacked, even though it was not perfect by itself as an example of a free society. As we see it is not always the choice of the individual and not that of the group or society either, but it is sometimes imposed from above.

      One can take as an example the things that are happening in ethiopia, the killings and displacements, etc. They are all imposed from above by the political elites for their unholy purpose, and ethiopians moved by their cultist and herd mentality succumbed to the cultism proposed by the elites. The concept of ethnic federalism and narrow ethno-nationalism continue to flourish despite their drawbacks. It’s because ethiopian social groups have been lied to by the elites that these are their refuges and their security.

      Achieving responsibility and a free spirit to withstand cultism and herd-mentality, need a different type of education and refinement, and a long lasting battle against cultism, which is always ready to strike back at those who resist it.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat (H-TG),

        “Individualism” is the source of greediness, monopoly, indifference, hate, enmity, exploitation. In short, it is the antithesis of “love and community” which is a community of people living together, sharing common interests, often having common values and beliefs, as well as shared property, possessions, resources. A individualistic behavior is based on “it is me and for me”. An individualistic nation have no common values for they have inherent individual contradictions in all aspects of their lives. Their responsibilities is only to protect their individual interest. I will get back to you on the conceptual argument of “cultism” and “responsibility” later this evening.

        Regards

        • haileTG

          Merhaba Aman – H,

          Thanks for this. I don’t want to preempt your follow up. I just want to point out where I see the difference between “Individualism” and “responsibility”. It is responsibility that creates the type of community you described above, otherwise individualism does also thrive in group mentality. The individual is paralized from independent thought and action as his/her survival is perceived to depend on the group. True responsibility is a correct understanding of the transactional interdependence of everyone to everybody/everything else. How could you be a responsible individual and put the interest of those who justify your continued existence behind yours? The type of individualism we normally abhor is actually a form of cultism, albeit we need to stretch our field of argument for that. Freedom from cult should mean a truthful relationship with our reality. Individualism however, subscribes to the wider cult that promotes that type of conditioning (to be #1 no matter what). A truthful relationship with our reality would actually help us to see that our interdependence requires us to respect each other and promote eachother’s well being. Every animal contributes to nature and benefits from it too. They work in herds and groups but don’t alter their perception of reality based on their association. It is different in human kingdom. The mind has to be checked carefully but tends to create an alternative reality. Need not go any further, look on the type of regime support we have in Eritrea. Isn’t that individualism at the core of community?

      • haileTG

        Hi Horizon,

        I agree with you that there are powerful survival and procreation needs that push towards social organization. What is interesting is that how simply we tend to then give up our ability to discriminate between the nature of things as good and bad or moral and immoral. The need to be accepted as an in-group seems to cost us our innate ability to freshly look and discern. This doesn’t happen in the wider animal kingdom. A bird builds a nest by following the exact conditions of the reality it finds itself in. The female bird may refuse to mate if she doesn’t like the kind of nest the male built. She doesn’t hesitate to make her rejection clear and the male bird doesn’t get disturbed by it at all. It just gets on quickly with the job of building another one. In human kingdom, the male bird would accuse the female bird for being sold out and the female bird would leave the area to seek refuge elsewhere. One of them could potentially be killed in the process too. Thankfully, the bird’s life is free of cultism and full of responsibility.

        I agree with your last paragraph too. But what kind of education would do?

        • Selam haileTG,

          The irony is that technological development and material abundance do not seem to have created the morally superior individual, who could have been the building block of the non-cultist, free and tolerant society. On the contrary, the cultist self centered individual who lives for his/her self-interest, and who is the modern man and woman of the western developed world, seems to have set society on a regressive course. It could be the prelude to ugly events for human beings.

          When the world is ruled by people like trump and when the far right, white supremacists, and neo-nazis have become the face of a once supposed to be democratic europe and the usa, it is not difficult to imagine what is at stake for the whole world.

          Individualism that is based on the right of the individual for free thought and action and the freedom to life without coercion by society or the government, and at the same time accepts the freedom and rights of other human beings in society and all over the world, is the thing that may not happen in the near future. A democratic individualism that can create a democratic society may be a dream, when we have to take human nature as a factor. The inhumanity of man towards another man is simply so common in human history to say that things will easily change.

          How many Ghandis. MLK and other enlightened people are there in this world at this very moment, who carry the torch to light the way for humanity? On the contrary, what we have today is the the leaders of the apocalypse, people like trump and others.

          • haileTG

            Hello Horizon,

            I totally agree, the western system was economically and politically founded on miscalculation. It is a system on death spiral now: debt, unemployment, xenophobia, cultural decadence…you name it. It holds no hope whatsoever for anyone. It is just as fearful, confused and delusional as can be imagined. But for this day and age, it holds important economic and technological significance. We can safely bet that all is quite on the western front, and no answers can be expected from there:)

  • David Samson

    Selam Girmay,

    Imagine this scenario:
    If Italy had colonised Tigray, many Eritreans would have immigrated to Tigray and it would not be inconceivable to assume that Tigrayans might had felt superior as well. It was a class attitude emanated from the haves and not haves. Do you know many Eritrean who emigrated from country side to Asmara had a contempt for village people– the very same people whom they left behind not such a long time ago? Why? Because as they had amassed wealthy and felt Italian, they scorned people who appeared to be poor, so it was again the issue of haves and not haves mindset.

    EPLF does not represent any Eritrean culture. In fact, it is very alien culture.
    Unfortunately, we cannot rewrite history no matter how unfair and unpalatable might be. What Ras Alula did to Ras Weldekeal was written in history. No amount of political correctness will erase it. We should strive to avoid stereotyping certain people.

  • Blink

    Dear Girmay
    Whose land is Badme? Just simple reconciliation starting point as you continue to put many things in one , would you advocate for Debrestion to help relocate the 2002 settlers of Badme to another place in Tigray?

  • said

    Greetings,
    The Gamble of a King Sacrificing the future of a Dynasty and the Sovereignty of a Kingdom to Save a son !
    One is in a state of shock of the news coming out from Saudi Arabia with the king of generally impaired judgment by enduring state of dementia defying all the odds and speculations by deciding to go completely against the current, general expectations and good judgment of savvy observers regarding the scandalous heinous murder in the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul of the Saudi Journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
    The filtering news of the brutal murder of a helpless and peaceful Saudi Journalist in the hands of Saudi officials and under the command of the Saudi Crown Prince, MBS, testify to the horrors; utter cowardice and flagrant act of Barbarism under which the gruesome murdering act took place. It renders every Saudi citizen susceptible to state terror and state brutality.
    One would have expected for the King – had he been in his right judicious mind – to order an immediate investigation under an International Independent Neutral Body possessing the competent authorities and jurisdictions – in the example of the International Criminal Court in La Hague – to uncover all the facts pertaining to the committed crime.
    Furthermore, and as all fingers are ultimately pointing towards the Crown Prince, MBS, given the Crown Prince’s dismal record of recklessness, impetuousness, ruthlessness, repeated violations of human rights and the infringement on the process of due diligence; the king should have, simultaneously, taken measures to freeze all the powers of MBS, even to temporarily relieve MBS from his official title as a Crown Prince until all the facts are out in a final authoritative report of an Independent International Investigative Body.
    However, had King Salman followed the above course of action would have acted in the long-term interests of the continuation of a Century-Old Saudi Ruling Dynasty; the preservation of the Sovereignty of a Kingdom and eschewing the taint now associated with Saudi Arabia as now increasingly perceived as one of the Pariah Rogue States.
    Instead, the King shocked the world with his pretensions and lack of wisdom with the world watching as the King ordered the formation of a Committee headed by the accused culprit, his son the Crown Prince.
    The Committee being formed of members of dubious independence and detachment of the committed crime, who could, directly or indirectly, been implicated in the committed crime.
    For, how would one explain Adel Jubair, Saudi Minister of Foreign Affairs, being a member of that committee as being the Saudi Foreign Minister ultimately in charge of all the Saudi Diplomatic missions around the world with the brutal killing of a Saudi citizen has taken place at the premises of one of these diplomatic missions? One seriously doubts given the strict state bureaucracy that the Saudi Consul in Istanbul or the Saudi Ambassador in Ankara just acted on their own without reference of authority from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Riyadh.
    Same argument one can make with regard to the Saudi Minister of Interior, another member of the named committee, who heads all security activities, internally inside Saudi Arabia and all that relate to all official Saudi missions abroad including the assigned security staff at each and every Saudi Diplomatic mission abroad.
    Interestingly, it is now becoming obvious the hands of President Trump and his Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, in the initiative taken by the king to form the said committee. Mike Pompeo fresh back from a Saudi visit to MBC and the king seemed in a press conference at the Rose Gardens of the White House yesterday to suggest exact similar steps to be taken by the Saudis. In that, the Trump Administration appears wants to throw doubts on the Turkish General Attorney’s report by allowing the Saudis to offer their different version of the facts so as to exonerated MBS and the Saudi regime from murder.
    Now more increasingly Secretary of State Mike Pompeo visit to Saudi Arabia more to advise and instruct than to sincerely and genuinely seek to uncovering the facts. More rightly one can assert with high probability that Pompeo’s visit was more of a mission at coverup and obstruction of justice.One can assert with very high probability that the Trump Administration is in league with MBC and the King to coverup the story of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi and actively engage in a process of obstruction of justice.
    Ironically, the coverup and obstruction of justice have already started by the King and the Crown Prince looking for scapegoats throwing the blame, arresting and rounding up a score of Saudi high officials who were all along directly closely connected to the Crown Prince. The fired officials have long formed part of the close inner circle of advisors and assistants to MBS who could never dare act alone or take any initiative without the knowledge and expressed orders of the Crown Prince
    Regardless how things develop from this point on, Saudi king has both seriously compromised his statesmanship position as well as appear complicit in the coverup of a heinous crime committed against a prominent Saudi citizen. The kingdom is now been increasingly perceived under the rule of MBS as the Kingdom of Fear as the Leaders entrusted with the security of the public and innocent citizens, are acting ruthlessly without a legal or a moral deterrence. The Saudi citizens are increasingly in fear on their lives and personal safety.
    The Saudi Monarch’s failure to live up to the challenges of the moment and exercise independent judgment, has, in the narrow instinct of protecting a potential villain offspring, put the future of the Saudi Dynasty and the Country of Saudi Arabia in the balance. The Prospects are discouragingly bleak.
    Certainly, Saudi Arabia After the Murder of Jamal Khashoggi could never be the same as Before the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Same one can assert with regard to the current Saudi Regime, King Salman and MBS are TOTALLY discredited internationally with the first example displayed with the mass cancellations by prominent world dignitaries of participation of the forthcoming Investment Conference in Riyad under the rubric, “Davos in the Desert.” No guarantees the political stability of the rule of king Salman and heir could now be definitively assured. The days and moths ahead will be foretelling.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear said,

      Thank you for the detailed analysis. Bringing MBS if he is responsible to justice by foreign entity would not be expected but at least removing him from power and select suitable successor would be prudent decision. Leaving all power to this erratic guy is a great danger to the monarchy where for the most part were able to navigate very carefully and with some success.

      Berhe

  • Blink

    Dear Ayneta
    I have checked my list and I don’t cross any of my principles nor do you can bring one single word of any thing that I hold dear then throw in a second . I have always said the Habesha love is all but fake used to killings. I have always said Ethiopian leaders including your hero Meles as a genocider with the others but I do support Abiy because I believe he has done things you and me never dreamed of , by releasing prisoners by giving voice to the voiceless who were on death raw by weyane . Third I never liked Weyane and will never do , on the opposite pepole who admired the weyane leaders for 17 years and told us how they love the Tigrians and even went on to claim their DNA in Tigray now just in seconds they come back to promote a book which squarely tell insults about the whole Tigray people , such people are called shameless and cowards , you see the difference.

    I never liked the dictator and never will but I refuse to do the dirty work of shameless people who wanted Eritreans to cut their each other throat, you see from day one I refused weyane tanks to roar in Eritrea and I refuse to advocate for religious and ethnic killings. I refused to blame the Eritrean highlanders even though I do not have anything to do with them except my sheer Eritrean DNA . So show me how my mirror can actually get to your level that you openly said Eritreans are not patriotic, which means cowards on your definition.

  • Amanuel

    Hi All
    Here we go Saudi Arabia has admitted that Jemal Khashogji was killed in the Consulate. Where do you think this riddle will end up? Hope on MBS.
    This is a warning to those Ethiopians & Eritreans, who are allowing KDA to fund some of the evil projects in the Red Sea.

    • David Samson

      Selam Amanuel,
      As I previously commented, nothing good will come out from this debacle. The Americans and Westerns will make some noises for some time until the headline disappears from our memories. The Saudis are too important to play politics with; they have a huge leverage due to Petrol Dollar. The Americans unlikely use phrases like ‘Axis of Evil ‘to describe the Saudi’s regime. Many ex-USA’s presidents did not use explicit language to describe their interest. However, Trump is very explicit: we signed the biggest deal in human history, and we use The Saudis to counter balance Iran’s influence.

      • Selam D.S.,

        An evangelical pastor, who holds an important position, speaking about the saudi journalist, more or less said that wherever there is money, justice and human rights are secondary, and Trump should never put the 100bn$ arms deal with the saudis in danger. No doubt money is his god.
        Trump had already said right from the start that arms deal and the death of the journalist have no relation.
        Sixteen of the 19 terrorists of 9/11 in which almost 3000 americans were killed were saudis, and nothing happened up to now, rather forgotten. Incriminating evidences of the crime were not released, and families trying to sue the saudi government were more or less prohibited. The saudi government blackmailed the american government that it will withdraw almost a trillion dollars investment from the usa, if any incriminating evidence was released. Money rules the world.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Amanuel,

      They probably admitted now on the advice of the Americans and blame somebody to cover it. It will not be MBS. They will announce some sanctions here and there but nothing will happen to MBS, and until time pass and people will forget.

      The sad part is the crisis MBS has started will not end here. He is the crown prince and he will be the next king and rule with absolute power for a long, long time.

      In Isayas he found a best friend he can model each other I don’t know where will Abiy end up after the election. Isayas will appoint his son, crown prince Abraham (for those of you who argue he is not smart etc, he does not have to be look at the Saudi Prince) to model after him and we are doomed.

      And if the US president wins another term, the nightmare in the region will continue.

      Berhe

      • Blink

        Dear Berhe
        Sanction? What is wrong with you berhe , be realistic man . The second exporter of oil and the largest consumer of American arms is going to get sanction? What is wrong with your reasoning these days ?

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Blink,

          I didn’t mean the country or it’s trade exports, but some individuals and their bak accounts etc. Small stuff to divert attention and to say they US go did something or doing something about it.

          I will not be surprised if the Saudi are biggest investors / finianciars of the Trump organization.

          Berhe

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Blink,

          Senator Linsey Graham is suing MBS must go before doing any business with SA.

          I hope he keeps it through.

          Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            Linsey Graham is a war hungry idiot from Carolina who is making noise to get elected that’s all. The man is a war mongering idiot . He will not sue MBS in any form and win , he will lose just the next morning. Saudi will win against anyone because the 400 billion investment is no joke at all. MBS already removed some from their post and that is all.

          • sara

            Blink dear..
            do they know? do they care ?…. those who are wishing Saudi Arabia to be sanctioned– that
            there are Eritreans in Saudi Arabia… 100 thousands .. many of them from the 60th, most supporting their families in Eritrea.

    • Brhan

      Hello Amanuel,
      What happened to Jemal is very sad. As we feel sad , we must not forget Eritrean journalists who had the same fate like him. We have to mention them when ever we speak about other journalists bad fates otherwise the world will think that we don’t have or ours need no mention because our country is not rich.

    • Lamek

      Amanuel, it’s so mind boggling how they think they can fool the whole wide world with their bs that he died there after he picked up a fight. Umm umm come again, like the song goes. They are insulting the intelligence of 7 blilion people. Their immorality and lying through their teeth, these Arabs, has no bounds. We need to be weary of this because IA can read from that playbook and execute it in the west. He already has the world’s worst record on that, topping his sugar daddies at suudi areb. So he may escalate in order to not be outdone.

  • Blink

    Dear readers
    Have you ever experienced meeting shameless people ? I am talking about people who wanted to root out your eyes because you did not make up to their false life of shame , these people I am speaking are people without shame for their whole life as far as they can satisfy their little scam world . Of course I am talking about people who promoted the so called boom written by a finance minister of PFDJ . Most of this book promoters has been at the service of TPLF and Ethiopia government for the past 20 years , they have been defending weyane at the expense of a dying Oromo , Amhara , somalian and many other Ethiopians and most importantly all Eritreans death was used for their filthy souls political propaganda , count with me the people in this forum contributer or commenters like me but seen at higher scale by grouping . Hayat is angry because she sees herself in the box of the insulted and she is rightly right to oppose such book full of lies but what do you say to the people who supported and promoted this book knowing their past support for the TPLF and also were ready to payback on behalf of past historical tragedies of 1980th .

    Not only the promoters are shameless but they are the most crudely way of human being faces . ከምዚኦም ዓይነት ሱሣዓት ስባት ሕንከት ዘይብሎም ንኤረትራ ካብ’ዚ ዝሐለፈ 27 ውርርደት ዝክፍእ ንክርእዩ ዘይገንፀልዎ መንደቅ የሎን .

    How could they just flip within a minute that they go with the wind of insults cooked in western city to the whole Tigrian people and Ethiopians in general ? Listen these people has been calling for weyane Tanks to roar all over Eritrea as if we didn’t pass through ዑና ,ፀላም ስንበት , ቅብፀት and many I can draw in seconds , these people has been positive about the attack in to the heart of Eritrean history by Tigrians . Again don’t take me wrong as If i care about the Ethiopian leaders because I despise them as they all have been genociders except Abiy who is not a drunk of the Habesha thing.

    Most these who promoted the book of lies with a hidden identity are now no were to be seen . Cowards , ሐስውቲ ሕንከት ዘይብሎም ጠላማት ከም እስያስ ,ጏሓፋት ሐተላ ታሪክ . ፎእ .

    • Amanuel

      Hi Blink
      I don’t have time to reply to your nonsense line by line but I will say the following. You are accusing people with out evidence. Has BA denied authring the books? Until then they are his books, Period.
      In fact you are the one should feel ashamed right now that few days ago you were confident that the Saudis will come out with out scratch from the killing of Jemal Khashogji and now we know that they are not only getting a scratch but it is getting deep, even at this early stage. Please don’t throw stones while living in glass house.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Amanuel,

        Blink objective is always to deflect when IA regime is threatened. Berhane defiance from inside Asmara is a huge threat to the regime because others will follow suit.

        So all he trying day and night is to cast doubt on the authorship of the books in order to discourage others from doing so.

        Berhe

      • Blink

        Dear Ema
        Saudis will still come out without any scratch, remember the game was to set up brotherhood with Qatar money and now let’s wait and see how they can do it. First there will not be any sanction to Saudi nor will be the removal of MBS , petro and arms deal comes out on top . What MBS is lacking is the way to remove the Qatari guys or dismantle their game , that day will be welcomed as none of them are democratic.

        The book , oh just hold your breath about that .

        • Amanuel

          Hi Blink
          What is holding back BH from coming out clean that he didn’t author the books? ERiTV will be delighted to host him.
          As per Saudis considering the economic power and USA interest sanction is unlikely but MBS is already losing important allies in the security and this saga will damage his image permanently. He is starting a fight with the press by killing one of them brutally, while trying to sell him self as a reformer. This barbaric killing and the bombardment of civilians in Yemen will expose him for what really he is.

        • Selam

          Dear Blink,
          You are always jumping to Qatar, stay with MBS. I think that bad interview of Aljazeera to DIA still gives you headache.
          Who is financing Islamist and where the ideology starts everybody gives his preferred truth. What everybody know is 16 out of 19 September 11 attackers are Saudi citizen and the master mind behind it, also a Saudi citizen

          • Blink

            Dear selam
            And you are here always tracking my comments about Qatar, any reason for that ?
            It happens Jamal was a friend with the master mind , it happens he is on record crying about his dear friend death . Ok let’s be honest here Jamal was a hidden conservative Islamist supporter too and was on a mission to create Muslim brotherhood circle . Stop trying to paint him as journalist and many things , he was no one but his supporters must be happy that he got international records of his death.

            Aljazeera the center of lies is running their screen non stop to make a big deal while it was Qatar who killed thousands of Libyans life .

          • Selam

            Dear Blink
            I do not know more about Jamal and I do not care who is he. What I know is he is murdered brutally in his government consulate. Saudi government should be held accountable and it is the discussion point but you jump to Qatar.
            can you prove that Aljazeera lies. They chose the truth may be that makes you not happy. Yes you are right Qatar participated in Libya, Yemen and Syria war.
            Muslim brotherhood did nothing by force to expand their ideology if someone does not force you to impose his ideology it is ok. Saudi and other kingdoms are afraiding Muslim brotherhood because it is a treat to their power not it’s islamist ideology.

    • Hayat Adem

      Blink,
      “Hayat is angry because she sees herself in the box of the insulted…”
      I know what you wanted to imply. But you are right: I see myself insulted. Don’t you?

      • Reclaim Abyssinia

        Hi Hayat,
        Today I cooked really delicious & healthy food, I decide to share this secret recipe of mine with you, just to cheer you up. I hope you will treat yourself with this delicious food & chill the weekend.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e59eb638e336ca455b15075ce4075e5822de362276588f450106db59c29e0e0a.jpg .

        Recipe

        INGREDIENTS
        Water
        butter
        olive oil
        brown onions, finely chopped
        ቲማቲም
        በርበሬ
        ሽሮ
        Salt
        Garlic
        Ginger
        curry paste Japanese

        Method
        Frying process sequence
        Onion->berebere>tomato >mix shiro with water in bowel>rice>1.5 cup water for every cup of rice.. >curry paste
        Let it boil..

        I call it “Shiro Risotto” by RA

        • Hayat Adem

          Thanks RA,
          Wow… this is wonderful. I don’t know what I will get but I will defnitely try it. I am interested in food revolutions. I will submit a feed back on this new thing: you called Shiro Risitto; I will call it ShiroShima. There is a new kibd of food I created myself from leftovers. I was inspired by a friend who really believes the next top world security issue would be food related.

          • David Samson

            Selam Hayat,

            Butter is no go areas for me. Last time I was invited to Ethiopian’s weeding, I was shocked to see so greasy and oily food on a table. Being healthy conscious person, I went straight to veggie side of the table. I can’t remember the last time I ate Kitfo and highly unlikely to tack in again.

          • Nitricc

            Hi DS: you said ” Being healthy conscious person” well they lied to you and you bought to the absolute lie. let me update you, the geasier, the fatter is the better for you. If you want healthy life, eat less bread more fat.

          • David Samson

            Hi Nitricc,
            You might be right!
            As with many people, I am lost as to which one to trust and believe. I read many, often contradictory news about food. One minute one studies recommend you should avoid fat and then next minute another one says the opposite.

            Having said that, my common-sense told me that if you are in 15-20 age brackets, you might get away with fatty food as you have higher metabolism. Nevertheless, there are few– if any– benefits from eating fatty food. I agree bread is bad, so are Pasta and many wheat products. Every little in moderation is good. If you look at Italians in general, they do not have Muffin Top(big bellies), though they eat Pasta 24-hours, while many Habesha eat less Pasta, but have big bellies. The reason is very simple: Italians do not eat very large proportion of pasta. They eat some greeny stuff after first meal and drink wine as well.
            No, I am not going to change my views on fat. It is bad and out. No butter or any oil except Olive.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi DS, Nitricc,

            I think my observation as far as diet and weight in western countries is:

            1) Lack of adequate physical activities (1 hour daily)
            2) lots of processed foods and ingredients
            3) lack of portion and moderation
            4) too much sugar
            5) gravity – accepting ageing gracefully

            1) I suspect the Italians preserve their own Tomato souce and make their own pasta.
            I think that could be one difference.

            2) there is no real reason we have to consume so much fat..but I am all for occasional GeAt, QiCha Fitfit, zhgnia / injera and even kutfo. I don’t know there is anything wrong with having Cheese, and some pastry ever once in a while.

            I don’t personally think, calory counting really worth it. It’s too much taxing for little outcome, unless there is medical reason for it or you are a professional athlete.

            I would would say 40 min – 60 min 5 times a week of exercise is probably fix every thing.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            Studies after studies proven that Mediterranean diet and lifestyle is the best one can get. Recently, one medical study has ranked the Spaniards will live the longest. I never tested GeAt(I do not know how it started), so I do not miss it. In fact, it created lots of tensions when I had shared a flat with some West Africans– mainly Ghanaians and Nigerians. FuFU was their stable diet. It looks like GeAt. I was asked on many occasions to share or test FuFU, but politely turned down.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi DS,

            You never had GeAt? You don’t know what you are missing :). I think in east Africa / Uganda they had similar diet I heard.

            As to the Mediterranean diet, I think the social environment and the weather may have something to do with it as well.

            I don’t know if these logitivity was always there but may be as a result of peace that come to Europe after 2WW but they have the social (less stress) life style may be the reason.

            I read sometime ago, a story of Italian immigrants from a small town to Roseto, Pennsylvania. They worked and lived like most Americans, eat the same diet, did not have much better physical activities either.

            But the heart disease was half of that of neighbouring cities. And they think the social fabric of the community was the main reason. Sadly the new generation of Rosetonianbecine Americanized and their rates dropped.

            I just googled Rosetan and you will find similar story.

            BY

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,
            GeAt might be good for body when you are very young. It is too late for me to test it and will never know what I missed. Ugali is the name of GeAt in East Africa. There are many factors among few: Olive oil, Fresh made food, lots of greeny, Wine, the Sun and Siesta.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Hayat Adem and Reclaim Abyssinia,

            Speaking of recipe, I will share a sort of adaptation from the old grandparents “madbet”

            It is called “Enge-Zagna”

            You order Engera and freeze it.
            Optional: Cottage cheese, diced tomatoes, Jalapeno etc.

            On the special day:

            You prepare “qey” beef “wot”
            Thaw out the Engera broken in to 4 quarters.
            Place the 1st. quarter Engera on a plate and cover it with wot + optionals.
            Place the 2nd on top of the 1st and apply wot…the 3rd and 4th the same way.

            You serve the plate to your guest with a FORK and say enjoy Enge- Zagna.
            For toothless folks like Nitricc, you add a little extra “wot” to soften it some more.

            Mr. K.H

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Selamat K.H.
            Lol kkkkkk …. Love it
            “For toothless folks like Nitricc, you add a little extra “wot” to soften it some more.”
            Cheers

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Hayat,
            We have some world-renowned team of professors working on food security, and its funded handsomely. I think based on the recent activity I see, it looks like they are on the top of it for my current side of the world. But, It will be disastrous around the horn with the current exponential population growth, climate change and social exclusion.

            There is also a massive investment in cutting-edge facilities, for rural development with frontier technologies. Almost all berries fruit are not seasonal anymore.
            The most interesting research project is “Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) for achieving a harmonious relationship among economic development, social inclusion, and environmental sustainability by 2030”

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d56e2a3db584af2c400217ead915a701981c47f24381af7485fea29549ab220.jpg

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18528ada1110aa9d1b5b7b629da247d4b7a04457d0ec331e104ecd9bb1539b06.jpg

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear Hayat,
            World food security issue is a concern for the world, but there is a lot of work in place such as “Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)” for achieving a harmonious relationship among economic development, social inclusion, and environmental sustainability by 2030. Eritrea and Ethiopia are participation in this goal to a certain level. Here’s a great image from China. I will hope for one day the mountains of Eritrea will shine like this.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18528ada1110aa9d1b5b7b629da247d4b7a04457d0ec331e104ecd9bb1539b06.jpg

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Hayat,
            have you seen the Ms. Sheila B. Keetharuth final report… I only have facebook link. I hope you will get to see it before it get removed by mod.
            https://www.facebook.com/396338647172315/videos/1698776130232535/

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Hayat,
            We misssssss you!
            C’mon join us for Djibouti style fish BBQ. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13692fc9d4a6e5e0a0b38cedd6a6483795c7480ada9a57e6075f022d74dfa36f.jpg

      • Blink

        Hi Hayat
        I feel insulted because a so called minster who served Issias for many years got the window to say things that even some people can’t say and on top of that I feel insulted because the opposition activists who happens to be searching for their DNA from the Tigray people suddenly promoted the book of lies and insults. You see I don’t like people who switch their principles for cheap things like this book. How could they promote this book ? What secrets are they looking in the book that they never heard before about issias and PFDJ ? On top of that what does this book help the two people in order to have peace ? Tell me what kind of help do they get from this book to suddenly give their back to the Tigray people ? For these all reasons I don’t agree with the promoters plus the book should be burned down to a heating chamber.

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Blink,
          I am lost: your comments about Habesha were nastier than Berrhane’s comments about Tigray.

          I do not condone both archaic descriptions but I am amazed why you would be this mad and this obsessed when you espouse similar views about races and identities you discriminate!!

          • Blink

            Dear SG
            You end my road to Habesha in this forum long time ago , the thing I refer to Habesha things is sir , both sides have been telling their love for others for ages and all the time they end up fighting but in the middle people who has no love or any connection with that word end up getting killed . May be I did bad job in making my point but I hope you understand me my point was to the brotherhood they keep telling us just to rope the people . Racist ? Come on , I am not racist but telling the truth about the false relationships they have been telling is doing half good job.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Blink,
            You don’t have to tell me the cost of the stupid and bloody inter-Habesha rivalry for which the region has been paying enormous price. Please understand that when you make a racist remark no one is going to analyze why you are saying it. It doesn’t mean you are a racist but the remarks are. That is why we have to be careful how we say it. That is because we are here to debate and exchange ideas not to irritate each other. Even if we disagree we do not have to consider irritating others is part of an exchange of ideas. Making a point in a respectful manner invites challenging debate but not remarks meant to annoy.

            I know you are not a racist but you are an atheist :-(. Even that should not mean you insult believers. That is my point dear… just a brotherly observation. I hope you take it to heart.

  • Nitricc

    Hi GY; C’mon now! just say the truth and I can understand you better. The only reason the border people started to speak up is when Eritrea outlasted them. In TPLF mind the no peace no war, the exodus of the youth, the economic suffocation, the UN sanction and the international isolation; Eritrea supposed not to withstand the pressure. The idea was Eritrea will crush under such pressure, turn in to anther Somalia then control Eritrea from Mekelle. That way TPLF doesn’t have to deal with Algeris or with border thing. But When Eritrea stood tall and ride the storm and survive; the tables were turn. It turns out the Tigrays couldn’t withstand their own evil strategy against Eritrea and started to cry out. I understand those people have live side by side but not by withholding the truth. Tell the truth. Give all the respect to the Eritrean people!!!

    • gebremedhin yohannes

      Selam Nitric
      Fair enough, you can say about the elite, the Abay Tsehaye,the Gebru Asrat,etc i think you have a point there but when it comes to the common people don’t lump them with the leaders, do you know what will happen if thy try oppose the war , you can guess what will happen the same for the Eritrean people , my point of disagreement with you is don’t include the poor farmers the majority of the people who does not have any say with beginning or end of war.
      I do respect the Eritrean people, i remember the sleepless night during the war , i don’t want to mention how many of my family members were at the war front, not only me but the whole country was at edge , but that is not a reason to insult the people of Tigray,
      my dear you need two hand to clap

      • Nitricc

        Hi GY; All I am saying is that peace is good and the two people deserve to coexist but everything that happened in past must dealt with. if not, the same mistake will repeat itself. I am brining the Eritrean side and if you have any concern on Tigray side bring it up so we can discourse about. That is how problems are solved. So, how the feeling on the Tigray side about the peace? what are people saying?

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; speaking PMAA, I heard his address to his parliaments and I believe the military ride in to his office was staged. He wants excuse to reform and clean the military. If not how do you survive 250 special trained army who came to kill you? Something very fishy.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam Nitricc
      Ethiopia police said ,Abdi eli(former somali kilil prisdent)was attempted to escape from prison, now the police added prison break charge on him.

      • Nitricc

        Hey Teddy i was depressed to hear that ETHIOPIANS work 3 hours a day from PMAA addressing to the parliament . I was amazed how even they survived. I am sorry but Ethiopians are toasted. how lazy they are? Ethiopians are nothing but fake pride.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Nitricc
          Actually he said 5 hours, did u heard him(3A) talk about the Facebook dogs? How many kind of Facebook dogs r there? I think abi is guard dog, i don’t know about kim what kind of dog he is, but horizon is lekesekes dog(neighborhood dog).
          And they r also ethiopian, liers can’t be proud.
          What u think about his explanation of Facebook dogs?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; No listen to it again he said 3 to 5 hours a day. And yes I listened to the facebook explanation. He is right about that but when he himself PMAA have people like Jawar and Bekele Gerba, he should not be worry about the toothless people in facbook. I think PMAA is losing ground and he seemed spent. One thing good for him is that he doesn’t have to go through on his cabinet all are yes man and yes women. It is all symbolic; how do you elect a woman at that engineer to be a defense minster? At least the TPLF woman should have been the defense minster because she was a fighter and she knows war. Ethiopia is in a big mess.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            Yes, the thing is they r and been the gov of liars and about the Facebook dogs, he admitted there r organized and paid Facebook dogs but he didn’t said anything who organized them because it is eprdf.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei Nitricc.
          Dont worry we learn real pride from Eritrea because they are marching in thousands through Tigray showing their honor for Debretsion with Eritreans real pride.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mitiku m
            What is pride for u? Can u define it?
            U can’t be proud with liar and twisted personality. Pride is what u earn it, it doesn’t come through lies.
            Do u know how it feels funny when a person like u trying to defend ethiopia? People like u with ur twisted heart r the source of shame for ethiopia.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Teodros.
            I am not in a position to teach you about pride. But for a guy who believes ”Ethiopians are nothing but fake pride” I must remind him that teaching Ethiopian a real pride is not marching in thousands as refugees in an ethnic group state where Nitricc abhors deep to his bone.

            The rest of your nonsense i have no idea what you mean.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Mitiku; don’t worry TPLF will be back they are just waiting the Amara and Oromo to eat each other out. it is the matter of time. If you had some pride you could have worked together as one people to one nation. But since you have fake pride just fight Amara vs Oromo; Addis Abeba is that and this; flag this flag that the things goes on. now name me one thing you are proud of?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mitiku m
            Trying to be proud by using refugees r actually being the lowest of low, it is the opposite of being proud, that was why i ask u to define it.
            ur kind of people heart is worst by any standard.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei.
            America is proud of Obama.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mitiku m
            U see how u people r twisted?
            But u r trying to make debretsion and tigrai proud by UNHCR money instead of the refugees like Americans do, actually u r trying to exploit the refugee situation to make urself proud, that is the lowest of low and it clearly show u don’t have idea what pride means.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Mitiku; every nation has lazy and stupid people and those are coming to you because they feel at home!

        • Amanuel

          Hi Nitricc
          How many hours do you think Eritrean public service work? A woman who I know took her three weeks to pay her tax. Every day she went to the inland revenue she was told Mr x went to the nearby caffe or he went to the funeral or didn’t turn up today. Officially thay are supposed to work 8 hours but the country is lucky if it gets 3.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam fellow forumers,

    Forgive me for using this entry space, and briefly deviate from current thread. I have read through the inputs related to former minister Berhane Abrehe’s books. Frankly, I have not read the books. So, these few lines should be read in the context of the points some of the friends who read the books have raised.
    The points that called for criticism concerned the author’s comments on Tegaru. Of course, any kind of such views, as some cited by friends in this forum, cannot in any way be condoned. But, I tend to think in the way Abrehet and Ghezae, and others, have argued.

    In my view, when an author’s central theme concern public affair or cause, separation of the writer’s personal perceptions on side issues from the main subject matter is essential in the interest of the common purpose the book or books intend to address. I think this point is relevant to Abrehe’s books. The case that calls for attention at the present circumstances in our country is the principal message. Some side issues related follies the author committed, though reprehensive, should not undermine the public affairs value of his work. Manageable shortcomings should slide us to submerge the good side of the writer and his product to his personal propensity.

    In the case of Abrehe’s books, there should awareness that regime will deploy all resources at its disposal to discredit the books and its author. Some of its incorrigible surrogates have already started to peep their ugly heads in several outlets, including this forum. Thus, Abrehe and his books should be defended in the framework of the subject matter, and not be undermined by side issues that could qualify for repulsion. The mistakes should be seen in the light Abrehet has mentioned: objective and subjective condition may not have allowed the author to benefit from essential editorial touches.

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear Respected Ismail,
      I am sure you will a different opinion after you read them. And what you said here is fair enough but only until you read the books.
      Abrehe was an insider to the system and IA. He was close to IA. I am sure he knows a lot more. However, there weren’t wowing infos he has given us about the dictator. He didn’t say much about the financial scandals and secret deals. He didn’t expose the mafia style crimes done against humanity. He didn’t do inventory for us so that we know all or the major national interests short-changed and copromised for personal considerations. Yes, he critcized IA but mostly on his Tigrean roots and identities. And the collective insult he showered on people is no a side issue. It tells about a character. If anyone badmouths any people with contempt, I can confidently say he has no real love or respect for Eritreans as well. Pretentions never count. I agree with Abrehet. The man can be admired for his courage. Other than that, embracing and endorsing his rubbish book with all its sink dirt is like joining the league of insulters. Insulting the people of Tigray who are sharing space and hosting our needy makes one irrational. Insulting a sister people has never been right nor helpful.

      • Blink

        Dear Hayat
        The book has zero importance to the youth except horrible lies and insults , the only reason these people are popping up it’s importance is the insult that’s all , again I am questioning its authenticity. An insider to Issias and has been at the driving seat of every game of PFDJ can not possibly close such things on his final days of oxygen taking , I think this is a ploy by people who wanted the obvious one . The book is a lies and the book didn’t bring any new secrets on DIA nor does it bring a hint of PFDJ circle secrets. The only thing it brought is hate or general insults to the Ethiopians that’s it .

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Hayat,

        Glad that took due note of the fact that I strictly circumscribed my take on this issue to what you and a few others had written since did not read the books. It would be sheer arrogance on my part to challenge persons who had invested time in reading and appraising the contents of the book. The point I wanted to make was that wrong should be discriminated from the good the books reportedly contained. The former should not be highlighted to diminish the latter because this would embolden the regime and its trumpet blowers who are out to play their sinister game against the author and his work.

      • ghezaehagos

        Selam Hayat,

        I read the books and I think you didn’t or lying.

        “He didn’t say much about the financial scandals and secret deals. He didn’t expose the mafia style crimes done against humanity. He didn’t do inventory for us so that we know all or the major national interests short-changed and copromised for personal considerations.”

        He did all these things you did he didn’t.

        You are solely focused on his insults for your own reason.

        Berhane is an Eritrean; not a Tigrway not Amhara. His books are essentially about the state of Eritrea; that is the central message and they should be judged about what he said about the regime, the ADMINISTRATION in Asmara. Thanks Ismail for clarifying that. As far as Tegaru are concerned, they are foreigners; lest we forget that.
        His views on Tegaru (‘they betrayed us as they did in history’ narrative is regrettable and objectionable. The book has many other faults.

        The bottom line is: Judging a 400 plus book on few paragraphs is unfair; especially when he paid the highest sacrifice, his life, for confronting the tyrant.

        Let us have some wisdom.

        Ghezae Hagos

        • Nitricc

          Hi Ghezae; you said ” they betrayed us as they did in history’ narrative is regrettable and objectionable” If it is the truth why is it regrettable and objectionable? I have no idea what the writer said but Eritrea heavy price of the last 20 years came directly from the Betrayal of Tigray. The truth!

          • David Samson

            Hi Nitricc,
            You should separate regime, people and an organisation. TPLF is a regime or political organisation. It is wrong to insult or degrade the people of Tigray. Even if you want to insult people, you should not stereotype the entire race or region.

          • Nitricc

            Hi David; you should differentiate between telling the truth and insulting. if you are fat and I say you are fat, I am telling the truth. Again TPLF thugs wouldn’t have inflected the pain as they did to Eritrea with out the blessing of the people of Tigray. Fact!

          • David Samson

            Hi Nitricc,
            Okay! I may be fat, but not every one who looks like me is. There is a huge difference between the followings statements:
            1. Many Americans are fat
            2. All Americans are fat
            I have not read Berhan’s books, but I have got the impression that he used the second option– call it stereotype.

          • Nitricc

            Hi David; you are speaking politically correct but when you get inside what happened to the people of Eritrea by the TPLF; I am sorry I can’t be limited to the politically BS. I understand war can happen; countries fight; there is winner, loser or the international court steps in and renders its verdict. Have they simply accept the ruling and moved on; Eritrea could have avoided the last 20 years painful events. If the people of Tigray would have said “NO” we agreed to it we must accept the verdict. And TPLF had no choice but to just do that. In fact I heard PMMZ was ready to comply but once he observed reaction of
            the people, couldn’t do it. They talk too much so I don’t what is the truth. All I know is the people of Eritrea are punished to the bone by the people of Tigray for the last 20 years. They even said the people of Tigray means = TPLF. They say this 24/7 why are you people denying this?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            In case you didn’t realize you always seem to take the opportunity to defend the regime at any cost. Here you are, if I am correct, you are defending Minister Berhane. Do you understand that, by what you are defending “insulting all people of Tigray, he is also insulting many the leaders within the PFDJ starting from the president who also hails from Tigray”. But you can’t help defending Berhane because as long as those in opposition (fight each other out).

            ሰብአይን ሰበይትን ዝተባእስሉ መአዲ ይፍጠረለይ በለት፡ ሸ… ጣ ይበሀል፡፡ You can’t help it….

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; the man has earned to speak his mind and to express his opinion i.e. no cowards run-away the likes of you, have no right to say anything to the man. if he is telling it as is, oh well. That is all I am saying. The man has earned it every word he had said and I support him.

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear Ghezae,
          Oh boy, where in his book did he do all those? Can you perhaps give us quotes where you read them?
          And..how are many pages + many pages dedicated to attack Tigreans and Ethiopians counted as few paragraphs?
          What I agree with you is that Birhane is Eritrean. As such, he should have written about what went wrong in Eritrea and what Eritreans, EPLF/PFDJ, leaders like him should admit as mistakes of their own and what he thinks now to be the best way forward. What he is telling in his book is non-forward-looking whatsoever and so much lies, insults and stupidities that will continue harming Eritrea and Eritreans further. “regrettable and many faults” is just a beautification in disguise. Ghezae, if you endorse the book, you are the book! There is no anyother way of telling you the truth. These kinds of backward talks that equally offend the good moral of Ethiopians and Eritreans altogether make me almost puke whenever I hear them from folks. The reason why they were made sustained upto this modern time are because there are people who don’t get disgusted enough. To say “he is Eritrean and we shouldn’t make it a big deal if he said few inappropriate lines about non-Eritreans.” Tacit approvals of untrue and unhelpful yet costly views let alone books is bad culture and bad politics. Eritreans are much nothing like this book tries to portray them. Tigreans/ Ethiopians are nothing like this book tries to portray them.
          While laboring to put many packs of lies and insults on mischaracterising and belittlinng other sister peoples, Birhane would have been effective had he been caragous enough to spill all the secretes and crimes he had known of the dictator from the years he was sitting at the front raw.

      • Consolation

        Hello Hayat Adem,

        Rightly or wrongly, there is a deeply held view among many Eritreans that Tigrayans are untrustworthy, that they lie, steal and betray unabashedly. Such notions have been around for a long time as is evidenced by the snake-like twisting road from Asmara to Keren that was named ልቢ ትግራይ over a 100 years ago. Among the commonly expressed phrases describing Tigrayans are
        ልቢ ትግራይ ጥውይዋይ
        ንትግራዋይ ኣድርሮ ኣይተሕድሮ
        ኣይት ኢመን ትግራዋይ ሽሕ ኢንተኾነ ሕያዋይ
        ትጋሩ ዝብልዎ “ንደርሆ ብመሸላ፥ ንሓማሸናይ ብማሕላ”

        If such explicit views have been around for such a long time, what happened the last 20 years would have only deepened and solidified them. Remember, the plan was to kill Eritrea. From anyone that would be egregious, but coming from the Tigrayans, a people that the EPLF installed into a power they could have never imagines, the betrayal is deep and will not be easily forgotten. So instead of complaining, Tigrayans should apologise to the ERtitrean people, and beg for forgiveness

        What if Hayat Adem is not an Eritrean, is not a woman and is not a Muslim, then the level of deception is staggering!

        • Blink

          Dear consolation
          I can add many other things but it would not improve my picture as I am known as a racist towards the Tigrians in this forum , second what you explained about hayat is not really far from the truth, third , why would a minster of his stature go play this street game? , is he the real author? What secrets does he expose about PFDJ and Issias? What is more surprising is there is news that he is zooming freely in Asmara streets. Remember these who promoted the book has been first advocates of the notion that Eritrea started all the wars with Yemen , Sudan , Ethiopia and Djiboutian and plus they have been defenders of TPLF rulers way up to hills , so why would these people play such game of promoting an insult to all Tigrians at this time ?
          I know most of them are apologists and shameless people without any secrets to their own credibility but how can a person who protected weyane and dined with them for the past 18 years in order to crush Eritrean defense forces come back to use such insults over all Tigrians?

          Remember most of these who support and promoted this book has been insulting us people like me like racist .

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei Consolation.
          Is this perception from its beginning until now the perception of all ethnic groups of Eritrea or only tigrinya people? And Why? Do Tigray people have the same perception as Eritreans and/or Tigrinya people?

          Can this mistrust disappear as long as the tigrinya people choose Eritrea and the Tigre people choose Ethiopia?

          What could have been if Tigray Ethiopianess is as strong as Tigrinya people Eritreaness?

          What could have happened if Tigray continued to be an independent land since 1990?

          What would happen if Tigray becomes an independent country?

          Why Ethio and Eritrea Afar people dont have this hostility?
          Is it because the Tigres in both hands the arm twister of two different countries of one people two countries confusion?.

          • Brhan

            Hello Mitiku
            Tigre in Eritrea have different meaning than Tigre of Mehal Ager: Tigre are those people who speak Tigre and are found in law lands of Eritrea such as Beni Amir, Bet Juk, Semhar, Maria etc.
            I hope this info benefits you so that you can avoid confusion in the future.
            Ethio and Eritrea Afar are now in good hands as the ministry of defense in Ethiopia Aisha Mohamed Ibrahim is an Afar. And she is a woman are women are more tempered the men.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam brhan
            People know the difference between tigre and tigra in “mehal ager”.

          • Brhan

            Hello Teodros,
            In Eritrea anyone who comes from Ethiopia – Mehal ager used to be called ” Amhara” even if your are an Oromo or Gurage and at the same token Eritrean Saho and those Tigre is their mother tongue whether they are from Maria, Beni Amer, Blen were called Tigre which means Tigrinya speakers as if they are from Hamasen,or Serye or Akele Guzay
            I hope I explained it more clearly

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam brhan
            People knows the difference between hamasen, serye, akele(tigragna speaking) and tigre in mehal ager. The confusion is most people can’t differentiate tigragna and tigre language by just listening. But people knows, don’t mean everyone knows.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Brhan.
            Nice try. It is not only you who try to avoid this problem. Millions avoid to look into the cause for our problems and yet they try to solve problems ignoring the cause. Ethiopia and Eritrea need another 50 peaceful years to teach Eritrea’s Tigrinya people and Ethiopians Tigray people (dont deliberately confuse youreself the Tigre people of Eritrea with Tigrinya people) NOT to interfere negatively in their respective land and ethnic group.

            Corrected: Is it because the Tigrinya of Eritrea and Tigray people in Ethipia are the arm twister of two different countries of one people two countries confusion?

          • Brhan

            Thanks you corrected what you wrote ..at least I solved the problem

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Greeting to the young lads, and of course to all,

            Hi Mitiku,
            I think you are tampering around on a no-go zone, that time is long gone (been-there-done-that).

            We should not profile people based on ethnicity, the time for that has long gone. We are now living in a society of individualism, & probably accountability. you probably know more about the political term than me, as it’s outside the vicinity of my profession.

            Dear Brhan @mohamedahmededris:disqus wow, amazing expression, ” Ethio and Eritrea Afar are now in good hands “??? Isn’t more like on the hand of people that couldn’t even take care of themselves?

            Cheers,

            Higo

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear all,

            What’s hot on the social media news in Ethiopia..

            Looks like water lines is purposely cut by some Qero to intentionally disrupt the water supply to Jugol in the city of Harar.

            The water reservoir is located in Haramaya/alamaya. There’s a continuous chanting every night by night rider “ciao ciao Adare” (goodbye Harari), Harari’s are the people known as “Adere”. Some of the Adere people I saw this weekend show me some private messages that was sent by their family from Harar as well as video of people in a mosque sharing a small amount of water for “Udu”. The Adere diaspora’s are very worried, and they ask me to spread the word.. here you have it.

            A couple of sources also mentioned that the organised group are asking for a ransom or I guess we can call it a fund, for the amount of between $20 to $80 million Birr from the federal government in order to lift the sanction on the water supply to the Harari as well as to move the house collected rubbish to the allocated dumpster.

            Cheers,
            RA https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d0cba6f155a4a48c2330e5ed5223b25a9abab669223a0cde6816bfffea44331.png

          • Berhe Y

            Dear RA,

            This is really sad. The government needs to infiltrate these group and make a stop to this madness. How one make a claim for democratic rights and turn around sabotage people’s lives.

            If money is their motivation and they have no other principle they live by, I don’t think it’s hard for the government to find the ring leaders. There will be plenty of them who will eat them out given the incentive.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            We will either have patience for the sake of democratizing the country, or we will return back to the old modus operandi of using brute force. When the soldiers came marching to the palace we knew there were some of them with a mission to assassinate the pm. A professional military man as the pm is, his first job was to calm them and control the situation. Today, the same soldiers are telling us who the ring leaders are, and they are being apprehended one by one. If a civilian was in my place, most probably he would have ordered the federal army which was ready, and the bloodshed would have been terrifying. These were the things the pm said about the last incidence at the palace.

            Those who are mentioned by R.A. are no different. Like the previous government this administration should not be trigger happy. Otherwise, democracy will be the victim first and foremost. Nobody is going to give them the millions of birr they are demanding, and they will be picked up soon, again without a bloodshed, if possible. It does not mean that the regional police and the federal police or army will be blackmailed and will do nothing if they continue their illegal actions.

            The enemies of change want bloodshed and chaos by buying bozenewoch and by misleading them. That i believe PMAA is not ready to give them. He knows that they will never return to power, nevertheless, he knows as well that they can do major damage if the government has a knee jerk reaction to their provocation by using force, which will end in the death of many young misguided ethiopians.

            A decisive leader is not the one who is ready to shoot and kill as some people say, simply because he has the military and security he can order, as it used to be in the past, but the one who can handle the situation, and brings it to a peaceful conclusion. Why shoot and kill, when a brave leader could control the situation without a nosebleed let alone a dead young man. PMAA used the push up strategy instead of the shoot and kill order at the palace. Unfortunately, such policy may not work all the time.

            The military is still more or less as it used to be. I hope that this is a good chance to dispose off the rotten fruits in the military and security, and replace them with people who stand for democracy.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I am glad you think the PM has it under control. For me using press-up to diffuse the tension specially if some of them had a plan to assasite him doesn’t add up. It’s just too wide a gap between the planned action and a simple reaction, they are not equal and if the same proportion.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            A series of events did not help the coup d’etat to materialize.
            – Not all the soldiers were part of the conspiracy, few among them were,
            – They were disarmed, something they did not expect, which shows that most of the soldiers did not know about the coup, otherwise they would not have accepted to disarm,
            – The palace guards acted professionally,
            – If they tried to do something bare hand, they would have been lynched or shot on the spot, even by the rest of the soldiers who were not aware of the conspiracy,
            – Who would be ready to do the push up if all of the soldiers were on a mission and they were aware of the conspiracy? One should not ignore the psychological effect of such everyday act in the military and generally speaking when he shows them that he is one of them, had a tremendous effect.
            – Which leader would have faced hundreds of soldiers when they come unexpectedly outside the normal way?

            The main point is that i hope his enemies will not drain and dry up his patience, and ethiopia returns to another dictatorship, which is not really difficult to happen. If one can rule ethiopia only with dictatorship, and people are not ready to defend democracy and help it flourish, then the political parties are responsible for what will happen in ethiopia in the future, for allowing rogue elements who have lost the advantage of exploiting the country, to have their way. They can’t demand for democracy and at the same time not defend it, or undermine it.

            Finally, hiding in a palace, guarded by the ruthless special forces and ordering the army and the security to kill unarmed citizens, is the worst thing to do. Such men should never be called decisive leaders, as some people would like to call them.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            If what’s being said is accurate and the truth, then it’s quite admirable they way he managed. Honestly I don’t know all the details of the whole thing, other than what’s said here and there.

            What I was skeptics about it is, if he had arranged this whole thing in the first place or he is part of it? Meaning, I don’t know to what end, but is he using this incident for some other purpose (like tightening his power, dismissing what perceived opponents etc).

            That’s what I am skeptical about, the whole thing seems a show to me.

            Berhe

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Berhe,
            Yes, it’s sad. I think, from what I hear they think they are government / they are a gov.
            Tx,
            RA

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            I do not think this is an isolated incident and rounding up ring leaders will make the issue goes away. A while back, I read an article about Nazareth (It is now called Adama). According to the article, 56% of Adama’s residents are non-Oromos. If these groups are unable to speak Oromigna, they are told by 44% that they would not be able to live in the city: unable to find a room, jobs and etc.

            If wonder if these ills are due to flaws in implementation of Ethnic Federalism, or something which is deep: the model of Ethnic Federalism was ill-conceived from the outset– how to cater for Cosmopolitan cities? I will leave the issues for pros and cons to debate them.

          • Amde

            Selam Reclaim,

            I wonder what Jawar is saying about it.

            The water and trash issue has just popped into the social media now, but Hararis have been warning for months about systematic dispossession and chasing out of the Harari state administration from the rural weredas surrounding the city.

            Make no mistake, this is a tryout for what is intended for Addis.

            Amde

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Amde,
            I hope not, it’s a concern.
            Cheers

          • Amde

            Selam Reclaim,

            This is the kind of thing he should be condemning. His silence says just as much as what he says. I am just wondering if anybody asked him or if he made a statement.

            Amde

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Absolutely not!
            Yes, his silence is just as much as he supports the move. He also claims qero is his team, or something equivalent to that, he need to condemn… No one is saying anything.
            RA

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            Water and trash issue in Harari has been there for a long long time, water issue has been there since derg time and trash issue has popped up together with federalism, it been there over 20 years and i don’t think the oromia state doing anything wrong, they r just inforcing the rule of the land which is federalism.
            The hot issue today is raya(almata), i heard u said, u stayed there at one time?

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Greeting to the young lads, and of course to all,

            Hi Mitiku,

            I think you are tampering around on a no-go zone, that time is long gone (been-there-done-that).

            We should not profile people based on ethnicity, the time for that has long gone. We are now living in a society of individualism, & probably accountability. you probably know more about the political term than me, as it’s outside the vicinity of my profession.

            Dear Brhan Brhan wow, amazing expression, ” Ethio and Eritrea Afar are now in good hands “??? Isn’t more like on the hand of people that couldn’t even take care of themselves?

            Cheers,
            RA

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Consolation,

          You started by saying rightly or wrongly, that is where you are wrong from the get go. There is no rightly.
          This type of stereo typing of the whole set of people by presumably educated individuals is nothing less than demented hateful heart.

          I grew up in Addis Ababa with Eritreans (Hamassiens) and Tigray grade school kids, teenagers all the way to college. In spite of minor provincial squabbles they were the same people in language, looks and mannerisms. The rest of us saw them as one and so did they.
          In fact there were complaints as how clannish they were by pointing the employment opportunities that favored both of them in agencies like the Electric company, Telecommunication and Ethiopian airlines.

          Now, let us talk about “Betrayal”. The betrayal that is highlighted by some, in big bold flood lights, of the TPLF’s refusal to let currency and economic exploitation of Ethiopia, is the shameful regret of unsuccessful thievery attempt.
          Black market, contraband trade that PIA regime engages in is in full display even in very recent years as evidence of his mode of operations.
          PIA took the military action to teach a lesson as to who the boss was ( do you remember IA showing trenches–no sunrise) and enforce his will, he opened the french door wide open to let all the simmering problems to be settled at one time. TPLF split and became weaker and EPRDF became stronger and here we are.

          BETRAYAL, unless it has a different meaning, PIA supporters should not use it to insult their blood cousins. It might be considered as projection and more.

          Mr. K.H

        • Hayat Adem

          Consolation,
          You are really bad. There are really many things that may have also been said in Tigray about Eritreans. You don’t hear them being said this days among serious people let alone in publications. We should move on and be part of the time. Our shared interests are not in this worn out መሸላ፥ማሕላ nonesense. It is 21st century; and it has to look so.
          Let me walk you through your last line and lend you a selfie mirror: “What if Hayat Adem is not an Eritrean, is not a woman and is not a Muslim, then the level of deception [Tigreans] is staggering!”
          For your hyphothesis to hold: Hayat is 1) not Eritrean, 2) nor Muslim 3) nor woman, what that means is Hayat is decieving on three counts. Well, not on 2, but let skip it, assume that Hayat claimed to be a muslim as well and continue to test it. To use this as a collective character for the whole Tigray people, Hayat come from Tigray. Disproving non-Eritreans must mean Tigreans, according to this hypothesis. Then, the next level is a grand and outeregous claim that Hayat must represent at least the majority of the people (meaning Tigrayans), that is in millions. You should at least be able to say, millions of the Tigray people are like Hayat. If you can’t say that, you have no point at all.
          Let’s flipflop the logic መሸላ፥ማሕላ: Isayas is Eritrean. He promised Aster Yohannes through his Ambassador to come back home and take care of her kids in place of a detained husband. She trusted his word and flew back hoping to hug her kids who were waiting at the airport for her with flowers. As soon as, she gets there she was whisked to an unknown detention center. Would you conclude all or millions of Eritreans would make such an act of treachery to harm a mother and innocent kids?
          This is to show you how stupid your logic is. Otherwise the መሸላ፥ማሕላ story has never been true or done. And if it was done, it was in the long past. You must be smart enough to know generations get more acculturation and interinfluence horizontally than vertically. What it means is: you get more influenced by your peer generation you interact with than your anscestors. You have more to do with the Tigreans of this time than anything with Rasi Woldemichael. By the way, There are people who beleive Ras Woldemichael is from Aksum and not Hamassenai, anyway. Don’t be re’ssi akhat!

        • Nitricc

          Hi Consolation; you said ” What if Hayat Adem is not an Eritrean, is not a woman and is not a Muslim, then the level of deception is staggering!” You will never find Hayat the professional lair defend Eritrea or Eritreans at anytime, so She is not and can’t not be Eritrean. She is here defending the indefensible TPLF thugs 24/7.
          Hayat can’t will not be a Muslim. in her hey day she used date Kiross Alemayo, the dead Tigryan singer. That was a very long time ago. A Tigryan man can’t and will not date a Muslim woman. i.e. Hayat is a Christian woman from Adi-grat. She here to defend and enhance the image of TPLF and behave of the people of tigray as disguising as a Muslim woman from Eritrea. her all exsitance is a lie. Here you have it .

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Consolation,
          1. Eritreans don’t have such sayings about the Wolof of Senegal or Hadza of Tanzania. Because they never lived close to them. In short, every tribe/ethnic group etc will have such stereotyping and long complicated relationships with their neighbor. The longer you have lived together the more complex the relationships, love and hate. Those who gain from dividing neighbors exploit and propagate the prejudices.

          2. The same sayings and prejudices are said amongst different awrajas or peoples within Eritrea. If you are lucky (or unlucky) enough to come from a large family, then you will find the same type of accusations of a complete line of ancestry about who stole land from whom and who was always ungrateful etc. Again, those who want allegiance from their constituency/family/clan or wish to weaken their opponent exploit the prejudices.

          3. You raise a good point having already those prejudices and sayings, we went through a bloody war that was fueled by government sponsored media amplifying the prejudice. Add to that the cruel deportations. War justifies the hateful and quiets the reasonable.

          Now despite all the talk, there are other factors that should be remembered. First, we have seen betrayal, cruelty, thievery on Eritreans by Eritreans. Second, we have seen Eritreans seek refugee in Tigray since the end of the border war with ever increasing numbers. Obviously, the hate talk didn’t deter them, and the Tegaru didn’t reject them. Hopefully, we are approaching a time when all this can be discussed openly and put in historical context and left in the past where it belongs.

          Holding to grudges real or perceived will not serve us. After all, our people are grateful to the windfall of basic food items that have arrived in their market straight from Tigray and fresh bread from Adi grat. They are all visiting each other and breaking bread together. Perhaps you can accept that as “asking for forgiveness”?

          • Paulos

            ሰላም ፍትውትን ክብርትን ሓፍተይ,

            Many thanks for the well put comment. I couldn’t agree more. I highly recommend everyone to read Memhir Amanuel Sahle’s recent article titled, “ሓጺር ትዕዝብቲ ብዛዕባ ትግራይን ህዝባን.”

        • haileTG

          Selam consolation,

          Firstly, with regards to your ” Tigrayans should apologize to the Eritrean people and ask for forgiveness”. Suppose they were to heed your advice and do just that then what would the forgiveness you intend to give include? I mean you must be speaking from a position of presumed control. What does a Tigrayan need that they don’t have which you do? Nothing.

          On your very unbecoming reference to the people of Tigray however, Hisur meten nebsu yehisreka and kbur meten nebsu yekbreka. No one can add or take away a single hair from another by mere faul talk. But the hate that propel them to say so would surely eat them awat inside. Tigrayans know better to handle this type of nonesence.

  • Habtom Yohannes

    Dear Moderator and All,

    I apologize for forgetting to Salutation. As you can see, I am not a regular visitor of this site. No time to engage people on facebook and other sites. Thank you Awate and thank you all for the fruitfull discussion.

    Allow me to share with the reader the passage you deleted:

    On 16 October, I posted the following on my facebook page as a reaction to the current topic:

    “One can not be for The Algiers Peace Agreement and against the “Joint Declaration of Peace and Friendship between Eritrea and Ethiopia” of July 9, 2018. Both are signed by the same dictator Isaias Afwerki, representing the Westphalian state system Eritrea. People’s conscent or democratic governance is not a prerequisite for sovereign states to sign peace and other treaties. Sovereign states are states with a monopoly of force over a mutually recognized territory and the people who live within those territories. We can’t blame Ethiopia for pursuing it’s interests; that is inherent to states in international relations. And we can’t ask Ethiopia to do our homework, since Eritrea is a sovereign nation-state.

    20181016 by (Habtom Yohannes) Kinzareb

    “Term (Westphalian State System, HY) used in international relations, supposedly arising from the Treaties of Westphalia in 1648 which ended the Thirty Years War. It is generally held to mean a system of states or international society comprising sovereign state entities possessing the monopoly of force within their mutually recognized territories. Relations between states are conducted by means of formal diplomatic ties between heads of state and governments, and international law consists of treaties made (and broken) by those sovereign entities. The term implies a separation of the domestic and international spheres, such that states may not legitimately intervene in the domestic affairs of another, whether in the pursuit of self‐interest or by appeal to a higher notion of sovereignty, be it religion, ideology, or other supranational ideal. In this sense the term differentiates the ‘modern’ state system from earlier models, such as the Holy Roman Empire or the Ottoman Empire.
    Richard Coggins in The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics.

    Awate Foundation has written an open letter to the Ethiopian Prime Minister, Dr. Abiy Ahmed. The following contradictory statement is taken from that letter. To read the whole letter, please go to the link below.

    “We have unequivocally called for the cessation of hostilities between Eritrea and Ethiopia and the implementation of the Algiers Agreement as a prerequisite for peace.

    Many Eritreans welcomed your vision on how to bring about peace to the region that rarely saw an uninterrupted decade of no war. Unfortunately, our positive outlook for the peace you preached was short-lived mainly because you framed the neighborly peace and cooperation we struggled for as one that you can achieve through a vague deal that you and Isaias Afwerki make. Of course, we do not believe (and hope you don’t) that the signature of Isaias doesn’t translate to the consent of the Eritrea people.” From the Open Letter of Awate Foundation to the Ethiopian Prime Minister, Dr. Abiy Ahmed.

    http://awate.com/excellency

    I think those Eritreans and friends of Eritrea who want to see a sustainable democratic system and enduring regional peace, -and I believe Awate Foundation is one of them-
    should welcome unquivocally the peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea; two sovereign nation-states. People should not get distracted by statements here and statements there. Treaties and agreements that serve the mutual interests of both Eritrea and Ethiopia are what count. Eritreans are responsible for establishing a democratic system in their own country. Those justice seekers and opposition groups should devised a solid strategy to achieve that goal and they should exploit the office of the Ethiopian Prime Minister for that purpose; instead of complaining from the side lines. The critical question we all must pose is the following: “how come we all have failed to effect change in the last 20 years (1998-2018)? I don’t have the wisdom to give a satisfactory answer, but I think it is the absence of clear objective, solid strategy and trust amongst those who seek justice in Eritrea.

    If we say that Dr. Abiy Ahmed should not sign peace agreements with the current Eritrea regime, with whom should he then sign the peace treaty? There is not even a coherent opposition group with leverage. I wish the various Eritrean opposition groups sign a peace treaty amongst each other that is similar to that of Dr. Abiy and Isaias Afwerki.

    • Saleh Johar

      Selam Habtom,

      Naturally, we should have closely knit tactics on how to deal with the regime. However, I think all of us are having a problem recognizing our position in relation to the regime. For instance, if I had an ambivalent view (or a mild opposition stand) my position on different issues will be different than those who have fully embraced the opposition stance against the regime. I also think that those who are totally committed to removing the regime (despite their abysmal weaknesses) do not have the luxury of looking at the matter from behind strictly pragmatic eyeglasses. They do not see themselves as neutral actors.

      But I also understand the position of some who might be guided by scripture: “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except God and those which exist are established by God.” –that is an identical position espoused by some Muslims.

      The solution, I think, is to let people do their thing. Otherwise, we will be faulting each others’ views instead of check-mating the regime. In short, both views are equally relevant depending on individual persuasion and thus, positions.

      • Habtom Yohannes

        Merhaba Saleh,

        Thank you. I might agree with this part of your reaction:
        “Naturally, we should have closely knit tactics on how to deal with the regime. However, I think all of us are having a problem recognizing our position in relation to the regime. For instance, if I had an ambivalent view (or a mild opposition stand) my position on different issues will be different than those who have fully embraced the opposition stance against the regime.”

        As the rest of your reaction, with all due respect, I find it below your level. My expectation was that you would show the courage to reflect on your inconsistency. My critic is not personal. I value your contribution in the struggle for independence and the struggle for liberty. The main purpose of my writings is actually to learn and sharpen my mind. The same with this reaction.

        1. You wrote: “But I also understand the position of some who might be guided by scripture: “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except God and those which exist are established by God.” –that is an identical position espoused by some Muslims.”

        My brother, by now you should have known my position on this, since I have been writing, acting on this subject, which in the Bible relates to Romans Chapter 13:1-7. I have been admonishing Christians who have been trying to hide their inaction vis-a-vis injustice by hiding behind this Chapter. I have always tried to interpret the Bible as a whole and in context. It is not without purpose that I regularly mention Dr. Dittirich Bonhoeffer, a German intellectual, theologian who was hunged by the direct order of Hilter, after he rose against Hitler and those Christians who saw in Hitler as the God-sent leader.

        Furthermore I don’t have to tell you that there is a qualitative difference between Islam and Christianity. Thanks to revolutions and evolutions the state in countries with Christian history has been liberated from the dogmas of religion. I hope Islam with undergo the same transformation.

        2. And your last statement my brother: “The solution, I think, is to let people do their thing. Otherwise, we will be faulting each others’ views instead of check-mating the regime. In short, both views are equally relevant depending on individual persuasion and thus, positions.”

        When did I stop you from doing “your own thing” whatever that is? Forgive me but it soudns like PFDJ saying: “we are building the country, don’t distrub us”. I won’t comment if they are building their own house. But Eritrea is a country of us all. There is nothing in it called “our own thing”. Let alone the country, even public figures can’t be owned by one family if they have chosen to become public figures.

        It is all about Checkmating the regime. I agree totally with your last statement: “In short, both views are equally relevant depending on individual persuasion and thus, positions.”
        Well we all are looking for the right position on the chase board. If you see, for the last 27 years and more, that your oponent has been Checkmating you time and again; then you need each other (not only Habtom and Saleh Gadi) but all open-minded Eritreans to reflect on their position. If they stay in that old mind (position), they will continue to lose. Thank you and good weekend.

  • Habtom Yohannes

    Dear Moderator and All,

    I apologize for forgetting to Salutation,
    Allow me to share with the reader the passage you deleted:

    On 16 October, I posted the following on my facebook page as a reaction to the current topic:

    “One can not be for The Algiers Peace Agreement and against the “Joint Declaration of Peace and Friendship between Eritrea and Ethiopia” of July 9, 2018. Both are signed by the same dictator Isaias Afwerki, representing the Westphalian state system Eritrea. People’s conscent or democratic governance is not a prerequisite for sovereign states to sign peace and other treaties. Sovereign states are states with a monopoly of force over a mutually recognized territory and the people who live within those territories. We can’t blame Ethiopia for pursuing it’s interests; that is inherent to states in international relations. And we can’t ask Ethiopia to do our homework, since Eritrea is a sovereign nation-state.

    20181016 by (Habtom Yohannes) Kinzareb

    “Term (Westphalian State System, HY) used in international relations, supposedly arising from the Treaties of Westphalia in 1648 which ended the Thirty Years War. It is generally held to mean a system of states or international society comprising sovereign state entities possessing the monopoly of force within their mutually recognized territories. Relations between states are conducted by means of formal diplomatic ties between heads of state and governments, and international law consists of treaties made (and broken) by those sovereign entities. The term implies a separation of the domestic and international spheres, such that states may not legitimately intervene in the domestic affairs of another, whether in the pursuit of self‐interest or by appeal to a higher notion of sovereignty, be it religion, ideology, or other supranational ideal. In this sense the term differentiates the ‘modern’ state system from earlier models, such as the Holy Roman Empire or the Ottoman Empire.
    Richard Coggins in The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics.

    Awate Foundation has written an open letter to the Ethiopian Prime Minister, Dr. Abiy Ahmed. The following contradictory statement is taken from that letter. To read the whole letter, please go to the link below.

    “We have unequivocally called for the cessation of hostilities between Eritrea and Ethiopia and the implementation of the Algiers Agreement as a prerequisite for peace.

    Many Eritreans welcomed your vision on how to bring about peace to the region that rarely saw an uninterrupted decade of no war. Unfortunately, our positive outlook for the peace you preached was short-lived mainly because you framed the neighborly peace and cooperation we struggled for as one that you can achieve through a vague deal that you and Isaias Afwerki make. Of course, we do not believe (and hope you don’t) that the signature of Isaias doesn’t translate to the consent of the Eritrea people.” From the Open Letter of Awate Foundation to the Ethiopian Prime Minister, Dr. Abiy Ahmed.

    http://awate.com/excellency-dr-abiy-ahmed-pm-ethiopia/

    I think those Eritreans and friends of Eritrea who want to see a sustainable democratic system and enduring regional peace, -and I believe Awate Foundation is one of them-
    should welcome unquivocally the peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea; two sovereign nation-states. People should not get distracted by statements here and statements there. Treaties and agreements that serve the mutual interests of both Eritrea and Ethiopia are what count. Eritreans are responsible for establishing a democratic system in their own country. Those justice seekers and opposition groups should devised a solid strategy to achieve that goal and they should exploit the office of the Ethiopian Prime Minister for that purpose; instead of complaining from the side lines. The critical question we all must pose is the following: “how come we all have failed to effect change in the last 20 years (1998-2018)? I don’t have the wisdom to give a satisfactory answer, but I think it is the absence of clear objective, solid strategy and trust amongst those who seek justice in Eritrea.

    If we say that Dr. Abiy Ahmed should not sign peace agreements with the current Eritrea regime, with whom should he then sign the peace treaty? There is not even a coherent opposition group with leverage. I wish the various Eritrean opposition groups sign a peace treaty amongst each other that is similar to that of Dr. Abiy and Isaias Afwerki.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam girmay
    Am ethiopian, i hate tplf and it’s members and supporters.

  • Blink

    Dear awate readers
    Considering the news coming from Asmara about Minster Birhane and also reading all the book as well as the way some people promoted the book in this website and other places , we all must increase our seriousness about the author identity and also everything about it is must be questioned, who are the promoters and what length they are willing to held the true identity?
    The promoters of the book like saay and many others in this has to digg deep about the authenticity of the book . Pls call anyone you know who has direct contact with Mr.Birhane before he got asked and his video of answering some questions pop up to some Facebook pages .

    • David Samson

      Hi Blink,
      Most of us are not Sherlock Homes. The title of the book is ‘Hagerya Eritrea’ and author of the book is ‘Berhane Abrha’–the same person also confirms in his own words that he is the author of the same book. The authenticity of the book should be directed to the author of the book, not to readers.

      • Blink

        Dear David
        There is no such thing Sherlock Holmes and there is no such Audio that audio can be a constructed one or may be not him , ask why is he released ?

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.
    Appeal to the appealers

    You are responsible for allowing your government to be dictator indefinitely. We have no idea how long you are waiting until your dictator government accept your perfect constitution, perfect democracy and press freedom in Eritrea but in the mean time your dictator government has become so powerful as any unchallenged dictator government and it had managed and coordinated powerful fronts that can send a one hundred millions people in havoc. If it is your plan to wait indefinitely until your dictator do your dirty work ie dismantle Ethiopia to stop once and for all your imaginary or pragmatic fear of a huge united Ethiopia is a threat to Eritrea then we are sorry for your disappointment but the dictator found out a united Ethiopia is better for its government. We know you when you create that perfect democratic Eritrea, the democratic institutions in Eritrea wont allow you to do this dismantle Ethiopia mantra. But I appeal to you that first and for most Eritreans at home and second Ethiopians have suffered beyond word can explain while you living a better life abroad and make Eritreans and Ethiopians hostages for your big plan indefinitely.

    • Blink

      Dear Mitiku
      PM Abiy told the parliament that the soldiers were looking to kill him not demand salaries. Weyane persons from the military must be removed one by one

  • MS

    Selam All
    I’m not sure what AT is demanding of Dr.Abiy Ahmed.
    A/ There existed a state of no-war-no-peace between the two countries for the last two decades. A man called Dr. Abiy Ahmed and his base pushed for a break-through.
    B/ The breakthrough gesture became palatable to man ruling Eritrea
    C/ subsequent moves made the two men fall in love, vows were exchanged…and there was a series of first=step agreement to be signed.
    D/ I don’t think AT thinks that peace deal had to wait until IA was gone. So, he would have to sign it, he would have to compose its music and play it…dance the tune, and enjoy the moment…Addis Ababa, Dubai, Jedah…a lot of gold medals….and a lot of youthful smiles and a lot of giddiness….Ah, the Ethiopians loved it. They sang “tedemrenal” and the maestro was the former PM….
    E/ So I think Dr. Ahmed should not be blamed for moving the peace process (and yes, it is a peace process…even Dr. Debretsion of TPLF is falling for it, because he knows now that it is easier to win the hearts of Eritreans through the peace process than it was through AK-47 touting Eritrean rebel groups and personalities). Tigray youth association members and the organizers of “mezmur selam” are in Eritrea. Ouch!! it hurts. Mild criticizers like me can’t go and visit dying parents for fear of arrest and forced disappearance but folks like the organizers of mezmur selam could visit Eritrea! Too sad….but that is the reality under which we should factor in possibilities. I see…I’m veering off the talking point, but….
    Concussion: When the opportunity for ending war presented itself, someone would need to sign it. There was none other than IA. And Dr. Abiy could sit with the person in charge at the time the opportunity arrived. He did. Considering Dr. Abiy is the PM of Ethiopia, he will advance Ethiopia’s interest, although the interests of both countries could not be mutually exclusive. AT is blaming Dr. Abiy for conditions that are resultant of Eritrea’s weakness. Dr. Abiy could not be expected to work on behalf of Eritreans. That is a no…no thing. It crosses the understood norms governing sovereignty. We Eritreans will have to create that condition and until then countries will sign deals with the authorities governing Eritrea. So, the ball is in the Eritrean court.
    On a related issue, my dear friend, Amal Saleh downplayed Dr. Abiy’s appointment of a female defense minister on her FB page. Here below was my response.
    “I respectfully differ:1. The defense minister is not ceremonial; constitutionally, the defense minister is responsible for offering the prime minister the best options possible in laying down the political goals of the ministry and leads it. The Chief-of-staff or Arkan Harb is limited to administering technical matters. 2. Giving women half of the cabinet posts says something more important than just for the sake of pageantry. I think Dr. Ahmed is aiming at destroying existing societal notions ( Ethiopia has been known by its people and the world as a Christian and a male-dominated country). I think he took that measure out of conviction, but it may also be presuaded by the need for more aids. But I would give the man the benefit of the doubt. I wish we saw similar developments in Eritrea. Sadly, Eritrean women have not been accorded a similar treatment despite the fact that they paid heavier sacrifices in bringing independence. It is not a matter of “affirmative action” but they deserve it. Sorry, laysat ledey lowHat almefateH Al’Arabiya.” [the last part was my oppology that I don’t have the Arabic keyboard to respond in Arabic].

    Wo deHankum.

    • Consolation

      Hello MS,

      Great to hear from you,. I enjoy reading your sober and mature comments both in English and Tigrigna. So please don’t be stingy 🙂 As for Arabic, you don’t need a keyboard. TThere are online keyboards where you can type your comments and then copy and paste them anywere. Here is one example http://myarabickeyboard.org/

      • MS

        Selam Consolation
        Thanks a lot. I’m glad I captured the link before Awate sentinel deleted it, the weekend is not yet in!!
        I tried the link and it worked perfectly. Occasionally I used different keyboards but I would have to physically pick the alphabets and it was too time consuming and tedious. It does not encourage one to write sentences let a lone a paragraph.
        I also thank you for your encouraging words. I will try not to be stingy…ha…ha…
        شكرا الاخ كنسلشن
        [I used your recommended Arabic keyboard: “Thank you brother consolation”]

  • Nitricc

    Hi habtom; you said ” We must ask ourselves why and how we have failed to effect change in the last 20 years.” because when people like you went to Ethiopia and started to sleeping with the Midget; the silent majority cemented with the government. here you have it.

    • Habtom Yohannes

      Dear Nitricc, thank you.

      1. I really fail to understand what you are talking about, when you state: “becasue when people like you went to Ethiopia and started to sleeping with the Midget; the silent majority cemented with the government.”

      2. It is this kind of mentality and false accussations that can’t bring any change in Eritrea. False accussations without any tangible evidence is not less worse than a totalitarian system that accusses it’s challengers left and right without any due process of law,

      3. Assume it is right what you stating here: that I am the reason why you have failed to bring change in Eritrea. By expressing this victim-mentality, you are indirectly admitting that I am much stronger than you are. Because if I was not on this planet, you and your likes would have attained changes in Eritrea?

      Stay well.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.
    ”In closing, we urge you to consider the following seven-decade-old ominous warning that all of your predecessors failed to heed, a warning that when unheeded invariably resulted in Eritrea becoming the Achilles heel of successive Ethiopian leaders:” The closing spoiled the whole idea of appealing to the PM. Dictating how the an Ethiopian PM makes its bilateral relation with Saudi is beyond the scope of the intention of the appeal to say the least.

    1) Ethiopia’s interest in the peace process has nothing to do with hindering the democratization of Eritrea by its people. The most power full and armed fronts and parties were in Eritrea with the blessing and help of government of Eritrea . If the peace deal was not made what those armed fronts together with the Eritrean government could do dismantle Ethiopia beyond recognition killing hundred thousands and displacing tens of millions due process.

    2) The priority in Ethiopia now is to make peace in Ethiopia first.Ethiopia is not a peaceful country like Eritrea. Ethiopia is not like Eritrea where some group expect justice and democracy by writing what they stand for against their government. Eritreans choose their way of opposing and the result is no catastrophe like Ethiopia is immersed in. In Ethiopia both in Derg and tplf time the struggle for democracy and justice is a bloody one and always dynamic. It consumes many lives. The change Ethiopia has got, in my opinion, dont deserve the sacrifice it has been paid for the last 27 years. We can just simply compare the number of Ethiopians and Eritreans killed by their government in the last 27 years and the ethnic hate and its byproduct. So if the letter is just like the rest of the letter you write for Isaias then it is not that harmful. So what the Ethiopian government is doing is out of survival.

    3) Moving the soldiers away from the disputed area is not an easy game. Tplf has still supremacy on the military. Unless you come up with an idea that Abiy and Isu go war against Debrtsion and tplf then you have to be patient about the withdrawal of the soldiers. (tplf uses the deployed force not only for its supremacy but as economic source for Tigray).

    4) Put all your fronts together and bring the peaceful democratization of Eritrea at home. Dont expect the democracy the west has now. It has hundreds year old. Do not exaggerate the brutality of your government. You have seen how many tplf has killed in Ethiopia.

    • Brhan

      Hello Mitku ,
      # 4. Exaggerate the brutality ….have you tasted both? If not I urge you to omit #4
      #3. Can you tell us who is in Ethiopia / Somali border …Ethio- Somali?
      #2. So Eritrea is a peaceful country ….have you visited the refugee camps in Tigray and asked why are they fleeing?
      #1. Why the most powerful Ethiopian forces ( comparing who with who) who were in Eritrea , why then did not wage war…were they facing more powerful force than them .
      Thanks

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Brhan.
        You indirectly summarize all the points to the exaggeration of the brutality of the GOE. If you want to see brutality compare the brutality of the two neighboring countries. In a country where the majority militia and military trained through military service and people can leave their land in hundred thousands it is difficult to assert such brutal regime can exist. We can agree on one thing. Maybe the majority supports the government. The change in Ethiopia is the result of the brutality of the corrupt one ethnic based tplf policy. That is how you compare brutality.

        PS… I dont mean there is no dictatorship on Eritrea. My message is if the criticizers exaggerate the power of the dictators to the point of paralyzing the whole nation and asserting that the only option is leaving Eritrea to the dictators is doing the governments work for free.

        In Eritrea people are not mascaraed like in Ethiopia. You start having a peaceful talk among the oppositions and have a peaceful movement in Eritrea.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi All,
    Awate Team has this to say, among others, in this Note addressing the Ethiopian PM:
    “Last month, one of its members, Mr. Berhane Aberhe, the ex-minister of finance, openly challenged Isaias to convene a meeting of the parliament. He also warned him not to sign any kind of bilateral agreement without the consent of the Eritrean people.”
    I am unhappy Birhane’s books caused him problems. I am mindful of the reports of his arrest as well as release later. With Birhane or others, I never doubted the default order of IA brainwire. His cruelty knows no boundry against all kinds: an old man, a family man or an old colleague.
    But that is not what I want to say here. I read one of Birhane’s book. “Shocked” would be an understatement. I felt like I was stonned. It is full of lies, satanic thoughts and insults against other sisterly prople and neighbors. I would have wished IA to be worst example of evil. But there are others with less capability of harm but with a bigger evil heart. My goodness: Birhane is no ordinary citizen; he is a prominent political personality belonging to the upper leadership ladder. He was a parliament and a cabinet member. This guy opposes IA but badmouths and polluts thr rest too. He calls Ethiopians as a whole the annoying thorns (eshohkhat) and Tigreans in particular as permanent enemies.
    This kind of guy and his ugly thoughts and his fat lies should have been condomened never be endorsed by any sane human being let alone by people who struggle to shape social attitudes. His stupid books shouldn’t have gotten all these attention and assurance from Awate Team and his former colleagues. If they have to be discussed, it must have been for what they are, which is lies, badmouthing stupidity and nonesense. Give me a break!

    • Blink

      Dear Hayat
      If you are disappointed by Birhane , it means you are yet to be educated how Eritreans see TPLF leaders. Here awatecom has been more to conciliatory mood for the past decade but that’s not how most Eritreans see Ethiopian leaders of the past centuries. Even in the refugees camp in Tigray you can go and ask Eritreans feeling about Ethiopian leaders . Here is a comment written by a student of masters in agricultural in Ethiopia, he said “ the fact that I am getting my masters from the heart of Ethiopia makes me proud that I am taking my share , Ethiopian leaders from Hailesilassie to Meles misunderstood us and at this time EPRDF government of weyane think they can fool us but it will never change our understanding of Ethiopia under the leadership of Meles is an evil one “
      This is a direct translation minus the insults he said about Meles and TPLF leaders.

      • Hayat Adem

        Blink,
        Zelilika nab Tplf. Nobody is talking about Tplf. I am not saying anything whatever Kirhane said about Tplf. Birganecis wronging and insulting the entire people. Have you heard me?
        The people not Tplf, (one more time, people! okay?)
        Birhane happens to be an Eritrean but not Eritreans are like him. They don’t insult and curse-box people. But, are you like him? Do you ebdorse his thoughts?

        • Blink

          Dear Hayat
          You asked if I abhor the Ethiopians in general, my answer is absolutely not even by any distance. I think Birhane meant the leaders not the people, if he meant the people in general he must be not the author to the books because who on his right mind can say that ? For example I reject most of the Habesha drunken love affair song singed by few people from both sides of the mereb river but I don’t believe the people in general sing such so my rejection is only to the elite once who wanted to put the people in trouble.

          Can you question also if Berhane infact wrote the book ? Berhane is released as per some people, do you think Issias will release him after such work? By all means I reject the insult to Tigrians or Ethiopians in general.

          • Hayat Adem

            Blink,
            okay, now you made yourself clear. Your sanity in place. Birhane made it clear he was insulting the people, not the leadrs, not the elite but the people. He is that bad. Abrehet has put it so well. The book is out of taste and not helpful at all.

          • Blink

            Dear Hayat
            Pls consider questioning if in fact the author is Birhane , many people who know him are raising serious questions about the book and if infact he approved such words toward any group of people. Even the way the narrative of many events in the book are highly unlikely come from him . I find it hard to believe he will say so , he is not dumb and not really a playing toy of someone in Holland , saay promoted this book like as if The Hobbit was again printed in Tigrinya and Jrr Tolkien’s mind pop up in Eritrea opposing the dictator.

            The book author is questionable and why ? Could it be that they know about the peace process is beyond their control and wanted to plant a day pay .

    • haileTG

      Hey Hayatom,

      C’mon its not that bad 🙂 But I had no idea that Berhane is released? Did that happen recently?

      On some of the things he said, I think we need to remember that these two countries have passed through the most brutal relationship that can be had between closest of relatives. There is going to be strong reverberations from the dark times until it completely fades away. However, this must be understood as the general principle in order to work. Logically, everything must suffer change at some point, hence becomes the past. There can’t be “permanent enemy” or friend for that matter. But rhetoric like that tend to stir emotions and steer us away from rationally analyzing them. IA spoke and thought in certain way 5 years ago and is now speaking and thinking in a different way. The same will be the case with any opinion held by anybody. The same will be for Berhane and all others that are holding to ways that justify animosity. Those with long term interest in peace and stability of the region need to see beyond that and support the right to express an idea, even if we disagree. However, there are sometimes those straight up offensive remarks like the ones you pointed out, they should be dismissed as foolish and emotional talk. Ultimately, that type of sentiments, although common in both sides, will not persist to have any meaning if the momentum for peace is maintained.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hailat,
        I am so annoyed such things still find a space in someone’s head. But I was more annoyed to learn there are people endorsing his books. Probably, all i see in the region as a pancea is cooperation and integration. Such polluting lies and stupidities come as spoilers hindering greater purposes.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Hayat; he must told you as it is. I have never seen an Eritrean person so mad because an Eritrean writer said something about his enemy. You are as phony as three dollars bill. I have no idea what he said but I know whatever he said is true. Remember he is EPLF.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Nitricc.
            We saw the enmity in practice when the border is opened. What a shame!

          • Hayat Adem

            Mitiku,
            Is that really you?

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Hayat.
            That is me in blood and flesh. Your party was making the NPNW for its devilish one ethnic first policy in Ethiopia. One devilish policy of tplf is dead and buried and there are many more devilish policies to be buried dead or alive.

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            Your best strength is that nobody takes you seriously. You don’t count. You don”t exist. I mean…

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hayat; I rather not exist than your Your fraudulent, untrustworthy, cunning and pathetic life.How is Adi-grat anyways? how low can you go?

          • Mez

            Hi General Nitricc,

            Mr. Berhe (the purported author of the books) is making PIA as the defacto solo dependable peace maker of Eritrea.

            Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hey Mez; I didn’t read the book and I have no plan reading it but when the master and the mother of lies and deceits; Hayat opposes the author; he must be right. She useless liar. When people critique TPLF thugs, it means they are insulting the people of Tigray. Tell this lair there is a difference between TPLF thugs and the people of Tigray.

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Hayat,
      Indeed the books have embarrassing, insulting and worse elements to them when it comes to Tigray and its people. I don’t think those who endorsed the books had read the books, when they did so. I haven’t heard anything after the books were released. I think everyone is in shock. Mr. Berhane Abrehe is an equal opportunity offender and has insulted his fellow Ministers and Generals. He is still in prison and if it is possible for the prison condition to be worse than they already are, I imagine it will be even harder for him.
      He stated what he knows and how he feels. If Eritrea had an opportunity for open discussion in the past few years, he would have had an opportunity to air his opinion in public and receive some feed back. I imagine he had limited access to news through the local radio/tv and spoke only to hose who reinforced his prejudices.
      Having said that, I still admire his courage (perhaps foolhardiness) to state his beliefs and face the consequences. In the end, it may be a good thing that all the nonsense is put in black and white so it can be dealt with openly.

      • Nitricc

        hey Abrehet; i always respected you but i have lost my respect when you said “Indeed the books have embarrassing, insulting and worse elements to them when it comes to Tigray and its people.” then seamlessly and just to appease your Tigryan Hayat, you said ” having said that, I still admire his courage” This kind BS, i don’t expect from you. if you are Tigryan, nothing wrong with is come out and say it. You have to take sides, wishy whasy is not your character. Say it. you can’t sacrifice your own credibility just to appease one TPLF thug. Don’t worry we going to protect the name of Eritrea. Just disappointed with you. You are all over and confusing. Your hayat is nothing but a TPLF thug. Say it and come out. I am calling you out.

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Nitricc,

          I admire Minister Berhane Abrehe’s courage. His books have some parts that insult an entire population. I don’t understand what you are disagreeing with. If you tell me I will try to explain.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abrehat; you can’t chew in both of your cheeks. was was courageous or you lost your respect for him? i do understand your need to appease the corrupted and lier Hatat but should not be at your credibility . what you stated above is very troubling. she have nothing to lose, you do.

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            Abrehet does not support the racist sentiments but admires the courage shown in publishing the book. It is a bit like admiring an adversary’s courage. I hope this is still allowed even for Tigreans. Btw I would not have expected thought police tendencies from you. lol

          • Kaddis

            Hi Aligaz –
            I am struggling with this 1984 book …in honesty I am reading it for the fame around the quotations …I admire readers…I am losing hope on myself and going back to long articles only 🙂

          • Aligaz G

            Kaddis,

            The best books often start out as long articles. But I must agree with you these days Awate Derangement Syndrome is also affecting my concentration levels.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aligaz; there is no courage in racism! so he can’t not be both. my point!

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            You are confused by your self professed “righteous indignation”. Don’t make yourself sick. But just for discussion sake there have been countless courageous racists over the years. And by your illogic there cannot be intelligent racists because racism negates all other qualities including courage and intelligence. I see this tendency in people who live in dualistic societies. But unfortunately we all have some evil and some good except Tigreans – they are solid gold.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aligaz; I think you are getting to be toothless. lol
            “You can’t hate the roots of a tree and not hate the tree.”

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            Try not to hate so much. It is the weekend. Get a life

    • Desbele

      Selam Hayat,
      I am recently enjoying an entertaining and education show about Eritrean politics by Aloniab. He blame us -the public- for being xenophobic and produce the likes of DIA. He warned us to behave and act humble towards other humans whatever their origin.
      Way much respect for this very young ordinary man preaching decency and his plausible diagnosis of the source of DIA’s cruelty towards Eritreans.
      A minister insulting whole people …?? Is Isayas the best of them?

      • Nitricc

        Hi Diablo; you are nothing but a garbage of Simmer and go screw your self loser. you will waste your life kissing hayat’s falthy azz. losser’

    • Lamek

      Hayat, you make excellent points about Ato Berhane Abrehe’s book. Notice I am referring to his book not him because one thing you should definitely wonder about is if he actually wrote the book. At first, I was almost certain that he did, without having read a single page of the book. I have yet to read one single page of the book. My aversion to the book is not that I suspected the book would refer to Tigrayans as you stated it did. Someone had told me also the same thing. But I was never excited about the book simply because there is really nothing BA can tell me about IA that I have not heard about or don’t know about. It is just a useless book for this generation. Perhaps it may be good for posterity. Why would BA write a book about IA from Asmara? Now, also why would BA say the things that you mentioned he says. I really really doubt someone of his stature would say these things. Let alone BA, even the most influential IA close circle members like the two Yemane’s have never ever said anything bad about the Tigrayan people. Of course, they say evil things about TPLF day in and day out but I had never heard IA or his close circle say anything negative about the Tigrayan people. So why would BA say those things? The answer is he did not. Some sinister people are behind that book. I am not going to name names but I have my suspicions. So Hayat, blame the book but start thinking about BA and his position and why he would write such a book. You will conclude that he did not, or at the very least his contribution might simply be to provide his name for the authorship.

    • ghezaehagos

      Selam Hayat and All,

      Let us talk a bit about Berhane and his books.

      There is no justification for insulting a people, here Tegaru, by anyone. There he made a mistake. We all agree.

      To define him and his books on what he wrote about Tegaru is lacking proportion and doing him another disservice.

      Berhane didn’t sit down to write a book to badmouth Tegaru. That was not his motive or objective. He wants to expose IA as unfit for Eritrea. Hundreds of the pages were devoted on dysfunctional leadership of IA and very few paragraphs on his view on Tegaru. Should we castigate the book and the author because of some of his wrong views when he personally paid the highest price for confronting the tyrant?

      We all heard the guy if anyone had any doubts. He called out the tyrant to convene the National Assembly.

      I fully endorse his books. No question about it. One can criticize his wrong views; bypass them. They are his flaws. Regrettable truly. But let us remember his original objective was to help rectify the sorry state of his nation. Anyone who speaks of justice for his people, especially at the risk of personal safety should be supported and endorsed.

      Ghezae Hagos

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Ghezae,
        Minister Berhane wrote that the target of his book are the young 18 to 40 years old. He encouraged them to believe that the country belongs to them and did his best to empower them by sharing all that he could. Knowing the limited opportunity they had to get solid education, he took it upon himself to give historical perspective and global political outlook. He endeavored to explain why institutions matter and the need to build strong institutions. He tried to give a road map for the way forward and was bold enough to visualize it.
        The books have a total of 412 pages and the most offensive statements on Tegaru are limited to a few lines in three pages. I hear that the books are circulating in Eritrea and hopefully will elevate the discussions there. For the first time after a long time, there is gedim tegadaly encouraging them to ask for their rights, assuring them asking for their rights is not treason and giving them legal grounds on how to ask for it.
        I feel sorry that he didn’t have the benefit of some editorial assistance. I imaging him sticking to his writing while suffering the isolation that comes with “midskal”. The final utter humiliation of having his wife arrested for a “crime” their adult son committed, was a severe warning, if he needed any. And yet he chose not to flee. I pray that all this sacrifice will not be in vain.

        • Haile S.

          Good morning Abrehet,

          ጽቡቕ ተዛሪብኪ ሓውቲ
          ኣብረሀን ኣብረሀትን ዳርጋ ሓንቲ
          ክልቲ ኦም ዘብርሁ መብራህቲ
          ንሱ ካብ ማሕቡስ ማእሰርቲ
          ንሳ ካብ ዓወተ ታ’ፍትውቲ
          ኣብረሀት ወሲኻትላ “T”
          ኣብረሀ ኣብ መጽሓፉ ሸተት ኢልዎ “T”
          ሕርቃን እንድኣሉ ምውሳድ ን’ኣሕዋት በደልቲ
          ክእረሙ ዘይክእሉ ናይ ዘለኣለም ጸላእቲ

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Ayay
            ኣያይ ኣብዚ ‘ነኻ
            ከመዓልካ ከመይ ከ ቀኒኻ
            ዘይ ኣመልካ ሎሚ ተጋጊኻ
            ብርሃነ እንተበልዎ
            ብንኡሱ ጓህሪ ኮሊዕዎ
            ከብርህ ሓዊ በሊዑዎ
            ኣብርሀት እንክብሉኒ
            ኣብ ዕትሮ በልኩ ኣቐምጡኒ
            ክነብር መቺኡኒ
            ኣባጅጎ ሂቡ ብልሕን ሓቦ
            ኣይከልእን ግዲ መዋጽኦ ካብ መጻብቦ
            ብዘይክኡ ተስፋ ብልናን ብዓንተቦ

          • Kokhob Selam

            Wow you Abrehet and Hilat ..

            What a poem !! I wish this is on my page= Jebena page,

            KS,,

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Liqe mekuanent Kokhob Selam,
            Thank you. If Haile moves his part, I will be happy to move mine to Jebena pages.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abrehet,
            I agree to move these to Jebena, but I don’t know how to do it. If Leqe-mequannt has the privilege of doing it, let him please do.

          • Nitricc

            Hey KS; I agree with you. My comment to the Moda is, this Tigrigna thing is very destructive to the flow of the subject. If you think links are disruptive, this Tigrigna thing much worst. So, it will be a good idea all Tigrigna routed to Jebena page. That way you we can keep toothless KS giddy and happy.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ሓውቲ

            ኣብ ዕትሮ’ሲ እታ ቀንዴልና?
            የጋን መብራት፡ ደርፊ ናይ ማሕሙድና?
            ኣብ ሓቒቕ ብርጭቆ ድ’ኣ ክትዝርግሕ ብርሃና
            ክትሰብር ጸልማት ብሕብራዊ ባና
            ኮሊዑ ዘርኢ ነባጅጎ ንደበና

        • ghezaehagos

          Hi Abrehet,

          Isn’t sad when some are just focused on his follies while the writer is not even in a position to issue apology and rectify the faults?

          The guy confronted the dictator and we know what usually happens when people do that. That should be the focus; the sole focus.

          Thanks,
          Ghezae

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Ghezae,
            I understand your sentiment. We should be careful not to dictate what should be the sole focus. It is important to acknowledge the wrong, and let that stand on its own. Suppressing any discussion on those parts is counter productive. It distracts us from discussing the most relevant parts. There is no need to be defensive about it. After all any author puts down his thoughts on paper and enables those who are worthy and unworthy (such as my self with little knowledge) to comment on it. It is in the nature of the business.
            I would rather we spend our time, extracting important parts that are useful for the population to demand its human rights and propagate them.

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Awate,

    There is no doubt this letter reflects some legitimate frustration Eritreans feel at the regime of IA and the manner in which it is undermining domestic peace in Eritrea. However, the key message appears to be that the peace settlement terms could potentially be null and void, should Ethiopia fail to ensure that it is dealing with a legitimate representation of Eritrean people. How does Ethiopia go about doing that? How does it verify that this letter itself is a legitimate communication from all the Eritrean people who are opposed to the regime? I know the questions sound simplistic, but recognizing Ethiopia’s needs and limitations must be factored into the equation.

    The second point I want to make is only to focus us into the practical side of things. Suppose IA is gone and the peace treaty isn’t honored, what aspect of it would be renounced? Air transport, maritime services, cross-border trade, closer economic ties, road transport?? Which one(s) will be on the chopping board? Since the stalemate on demarcation vs normalization is resolved on Ethiopia’s terms, i.e normalize first and demarcation later, it is not possible to walk it back now. So, framing the demand in that way may be viewed as failing before failing, i.e. from long term political interest point of view.

    Overall, I am grateful you have invested your time to advocate for our people who can’t voice their concerns due to the repression they are under. But, I also believe the Ethiopians are just as concerned about the issue, albeit their hands are tide in the situation.

    • Amanuel

      Hi HaileTG
      I felt the same when I skimmed over the article. However when I read it again It gave me another dimension that it seems that the Awete Team is convinced that the actions and intention of the Ethiopian PM amounts to a ground work for the annexation of Eritrea. I don’t think they are referring merely for the peace and economic agreements when they said “shaby deals”.
      Awate has no army or diplomates to impose his idea to protect Eritrean interest. What it has is the pencil and it has a responsibility to use it to advice and remind Ethiopian stock holders.

      • Aligaz G

        Amanuel,

        I disagree – it’s a “just in case letter”. it shows they really don’t understand the spirit of the change in Ethiopia. Ethiopians by culture are acutely sensitive to injustice and fair treatment. As a nation there has never been any agenda to take advantage of Eritrea. But it is always useful to shout – the Ethiopians are coming.

        • Amanuel

          Hi Aligaz G
          I don’t want go back but as you are claiming “Ethiopians by culture are acutely sensitive to injustice and fair treatment” I am forced to remind you some. Do you know what WekiDuba, Shieb, Ona and Massawa means to Eritreans? For your information these are places where Eritrean mothers and children murdered by the Ethiopian army intentionally. But we didn’t see any demonstration against it around Ethiopian cities. Where was the so called the “Ethiopians by culture are acutely sensitive to injustice and fair treatment” then? Remember Eritreans might choose to forgive for the sake of peace & good neighbourhood but they will never forget them.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman
            Why forgive?

          • Amanuel

            Hi Teodros Alem
            I think you have a problem. Forgiveness is the act of civilisation and it is the only way forward. Please try to learn to forgive.
            I would not have a problem to be “tigraian” but to tell you the truth I am Eritrean who witnessed atrocities committed by the Ethiopian army against Eritrean civilians intentionally. About the Ethiopian people’s responsibility for those atrocities I would say the following. Army doesn’t come out of vacuum. It is a manifestation of a society civilisation, culture and standared.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman
            What i said was, it don’t matter if u forgive or forget .

          • Aligaz G

            Amanuel,

            First of all demonstrations were illegal during Derg times punishable by death. Second, so called atrocities commited by army units during the “liberation war” were pre information age and were not written up in mass media publications or announced on the radio. Now if you are claiming the general population endorsed atrocities because they didn’t demonstrate about events they were not aware about then you are insane. Furthermore atrocities were perpetrated all over Ethiopia especially by the Derg and were not specifically aimed at Eritreans. Red terror may have killed up to 1 million Ethiopians. Contrary to your delusions Eritreans in Ethiopia were mostly well off and wer often in positions of authority and this continued even after “liberation” only to be expelled by the TPLF. Finally Eritrean deaths and suffering caused by wars between the fronts and later by PFDJ were worse than anything you can accuse Ethiopians of doing. This is why hundreds of Eritreans flock daily into Ethiopia seeking refuge as we speak.

      • haileTG

        Selamat Amanuel,

        I understand the fear but a letter is technically and legally read based in what it explicitly states. Reading it twice or more, it should not be giving evolving meanings. It should mean what it says. When you say “Awete Team is convinced that the actions and intention of the Ethiopian PM amounts to a ground work for the annexation of Eritrea.” In effect accusations of intent amounting to a declaration of war and plunging the entire region in turmoil, I doubt if this is what the AT is trying to relate. But they can always clarify that. The problem here is two level, if the letter is meant to convey what it doesn’t explicitly say and then the reader would form assumtions as to its true message. I think let’s read what is written there. With respect brother Amanuel.

        • Amanuel

          Hi Hailat
          I could be wrong but that is what I took from the letter.
          Do you think the writer would conclude his letter with a quote given on the eve of Eritrean annexation seven decades ago by abona Ibrahim Sultan if he doesn’t equate the current situation to it?

    • David Samson

      Selam Haile,

      Since the peace agreement, I hear many Eritreans are arguing that any future legitimate Eritrean government will cancel the agreement as ‘null and void’. They use a vague phrase ‘International Law’, but when asked which specific law or body they are referring to, they waffle. It worth noting that, despite the peace agreement has been signed with witnesses’ present, the details of the deal were not disclosed to anybody. In effect the agreement is between two parties. If we take a contract in commercial world, one party can not merely walk out on a contract because he does not like the terms. For instance, you and I signed a contract and it later transpired that I signed the contract under duress or some other mitigating factors and feel the terms are unfair, and if refused to honour the contract, you can sue me for a breach. However, I can also take you to court because I feel the contract is ‘Unfair. The court will look in at the details of the contract and despite I was a willing party to a contract, the court might rule in my favour.

      Having said that, I do not know who can force an international agreement. My poor guess is none. Both parties to a contract my choice an arbitrator. So, if future GOE walks on the deal, Ethiopia could use the might to settle the dispute– the law of the jungle prevails. The ONLY option we have is to renegotiate the terms with any friendly Ethiopian government.

      What worries me and often overlooked is the issue of leased assets. If rumours are right, the Assab port has been leased to Emirates for 100 years. If this turns out to be true, we are screwed. Depending on the terms of the lease, the leaseholder can sub-lease the asset to another sub- leasee. This will further complicates the terms of the peace agreements and any future renegotiations

      • Amanuel

        Hi DS
        I am not a lawyer and don’t have clue about international law. However I would like to ask you a question based on your comment. As a pertner in a contract do you think you have a responsibility to make sure your partner is an authorised one? For example in the case of Eritrea, if the agreements needs to be rectified by any form of legislative body as the letter is suggesting and failing that makes the agreement inadmissible.

        • haileTG

          Selam Amanuel,

          If countries can get out of intl. agreements because it was done with unelected dictator, that would have been a major loophole. Because the choices left would be to either cut off a dictatorship from any international or bilateral dealings or hold the country responsible regardless. The latter is the standard practice. If the post dictator country doesn’t find diplomatic ways to improve the terms of any outstanding agreements, it would have to live up to it or face full ramifications. Ethiopia had some debt reduction from Russia for money borrowed by Mengistu. Somalia Land isn’t recognized country despite having declared independence, yet Ethiopia can’t dispute its acceptance of the referendum results now because PMMZ was in power when it accepted. We can only change domestic rules and regulations once IA is gone. For external deals, we need to field the sharpest of diplomatic minds we can find (usually around Enda Mariam:) to recalibrate the deals and sharply align it with our liking.

          • Amanuel

            Hi Hailat
            No one is appealing to dictators like IA. The appeal is to Abiy, hopefully will not end up like IA. Responsible leaders make sure that their partner in any treaty has the support of his people or representative of the people like parliament.
            While I was reading your comment I was following the news about the Chequers proposal forwarded by the British PM about Brexit. The Lithuanian president was asked if EU will accept it. Her reply was this “It’s very difficult for European side to negotiate with a person who has no full support of the position. It’s changing, it’s under discussions and that’s a problem if you have on the other side of the table negotiator who has no strong mandate it’s very difficult to negotiate” I know there is a wide gap between Europe and Africa but the fundamentals are the same every were. To have a lasting peace and prosperity find a reliable partner.

          • haileTG

            Haw Amanuel,

            I think we are generally on the same terms, although my point is that the way the concern is raised is problematic. If the concern is raised such that it strikes the right notes, it could be generalized as a representative, practical and moral quest that can be adopted by the opposition. Simply saying that if stakeholders are not included then it won’t be honored falls short of that.

            To intimate to PMAA that the peace deal as formulated and handled now:

            1- The Eritrean people are left out and hence a potential crisis is brewing in Eritrea.

            2 – If Ethiopians believe that the Eritrean people are blood relation to them, it makes no moral sense to be a bystander but try to pressure IA to make the necessary change to hand power back to the people. How can you standby when crimes against humanity is meted out on your supposed blood relation’s home?

            3 – Ethiopia stands to secure better guarantees for the existing deals and enjoy legal and institutional relationship if IA’s regime plays by the rule of law.

            However, the reality is that there is 0 chance that a regime like IA’s can be reformed without major fallout. PFDJ is neither economically, socially nor politically in a position to reform itself. It is a crisis regime. This makes our problem dangerous in any case.

    • Blink

      Dear Haile TG
      I think the best way Eritreans can be served by awate team is if this team demand the public to ask for details of the deal between the two governments unless awate team do not represent the Eritreans in general and they don’t even know what Eritreans think , this is just a stressful situation for them as to any one . They are not in a postion to demand or reject a deal done by both governments even after 10 years from now.

      Let’s be honest and realistic about what is going on. Issias controls everything from Eritrea side and so do Abiy from Ethiopia side . And no one will dare to say null and void even Issias died this afternoon. I am being honest that the opposition is in no position even to have a say after 10 years because as we all know we are waiting for the second generation of PFDJ and these new comers will not say a word about the deal unless the opposition leadership come to their senses, didn’t some opposition discussed with weyane government? To who do the consult ? No one , the only thing awate team can also do is call for all people in the opposition to facilitate a way for leaders who can make a difference to come forward.

      We need leadership who can stir the opposition ship to a safe ground so that we all can join them.

  • Acria

    Selam Alfaromeo,

    They are not dummies just sycophants [TeBeLetsTi ] ! They support the regime not because of some patriotism, rather, because they have to gain something….property, money, you name it. They are as desperate as the poor Eritreans, but, for a different reason.

    • Natom Habom

      selam Acria
      you said [they support the regime not because of some patriotism,rather because they have to gain something ,,property ,money ] so I get money and proprety because I support the government ? if it was true people like you would be the first ,on its knee to praise the regime ,you people are well known sellout for any pity price ,if you were then patriotic you would have enrolled with the so called eritrean fighter in Ethiopia ,not parroting online forum here
      you people are blind ,dishonest ,fabricate on day basis fairy tale to trick young innocent ,and because your malevolent intention karma left you where you are now ,confuse,useless and more stupid ,as playing smart and well educated will change anything for you dummy,
      you people couldnt see coming the predilection of the even in the horn just in front of you .how come the regime you call ignorant saw years before what about to happen in the horn ,
      now what left for you is gossiping like women as usual ,me I going to get my property now
      sleep well ,good coma my friend

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awatistas, considering that Ethiopia has democratic institutions, what about reaching out directly to the members of the Ethiopian parliament, the EPRDF party and other parties, so that they could take the predicament of the Eritrean people in their deliberations? Justice, democracy and rule of law are sacrosanct consepts that should be applied uniformly to all peoples; hence the Ethiopian politicians cannot and should not give a blind eye to the suffering of the Eritrean people when they are dealing with the Eritrean dictator. I’m of the opinion that many Ethiopian opposition parties could take this issue to the fora of political discussions within Ethiopia, and I’m sure such parties would win the hearts and minds of the disadvantaged Eritrean people.

    • Acria

      Selam Abraham H.

      This is possible if we approach them in the spirit of ‘Ene’Demer’. Although it will take time and resources, we could do this through grassroots movement inside Ethiopia as well. We have to think globally in this global economy.

      • Aligaz G

        Acria,

        Peace and reconciliation are the preconditions to democratization. And always these three states of psychology require a certain amount of faith and surrender. Externally this means giving up intransigence and showing willingness to compromise. If the Eritrean opposition organizes, begins the democratization process and achieves viability within it’s own constituency then the entire world will support your movement. This is what is happening in Ethiopia. Nobody likes dealing with dictatorships.

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ-ዓወተ

    ዋዛ ምስ ቁምነገር። ኣይተስተዋሕድዎ፡

    ነበረ’ያ ነበረ ሓደ ምዕልቲ
    ተጠራኒፉ ሰብኣይ ምስ ሰበይቲ
    ይብል ሰብኣይ ኣንቲ ሕማቕ ቅርስስቲ
    ኣነስ ምስተገብኣትኒ እምበር ጎርዞ ንፍዕቲ
    ውሽማ ምስ ኣቐመጥኩ’በር ካልኣይቲ ሳልሰይቲ
    ምሳኺ’ዶ ምስኣረግኩ ኣንቲ ገጻብ ርኽሙሽቲ
    ከምኡ እናበለ ጊዜኡ የሕልፎ ቀትሪ ኮነ ለይቲ

    ጸገም ናይ በይኑ ኣይነበረን ናይ ብሕቲ
    ኣለዉ ከምኡ ዝኣመሰሉ ኣብ ጎረባብቲ
    እቲ ዝገርም፡ ንሱ እዩ ዋና ዓራቒ መጓቲ
    ክትጽረፍ ኣይግባእን ዝብል ጓል ኣንስተይቲ
    ኣብ ጸበል ዝዕደም፡ ባርኹልና ዝብሃል ልዕሊ ኣቕሽሽቲ
    ክዓርቕ ዝውዕል፡ ሓዳሩ ኣንዲዱ ጌሩ ሓሙኽሽቲ
    ሳጓ’ውን ወጽይዎ ‘ደሞዝ ኣልቦ ጠበቓ-ኣንስቲ’
    ኣብ ገዝኡ ዝተፋሕጠረ ኣንበሳ፡ ኣብ ደገ ብረዚደንቲ።

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Awatistas,

    Few years ago, there were voices advocating for Ethiopia to get involved militarily in Eritrea (surgically they said..whatever that meant) to help the Eritrean people remove their leader. At the time, I was concerned because I wasn’t sure the friendly ears they were appealing to in Ethiopia might not be susceptible to such a call. That possibility is gone for good now.
    Think of the request…shade your blood, absorb all the cost, take all the risk, install our new leader and go back to your country. …..Some boldly said it is for your own good…..What an entitlement mentality.

    Now it is presented in a slightly different format. The same old approach is smoothed with all the rough edges out, it is all polished to make it look reasonable request or appeal with a dash of threat for the same end.

    Its essence: Don’t make an agreement with the commander in chief and President of Eritrea because when we, the opposition, take over eventually the agreement will be null and void. I hope one of those that it was addressed to will email back a short response saying…..fine, call us when you are in charge.

    There is nothing Ethiopia can do that half the Eritreans will not oppose. It is like dealing with Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. If Democrats love something Republicans hate it without question and vise versa.
    In our case it is the same old, same old blame Ethiopia for everything that goes wrong in Eritrea mantra.
    I hope the leaders of Ethiopia deal with the reality as is and not as they would like it to be as some one famous said.
    If arguably the demon is the leader of Eritrea we have to deal with the demon, until the saint or angel shows up. At that time we deal with the saint until the devil shows up again, that is the way it is.
    Please accept your independence with all its ramifications.

    Mr. K.H

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Kim Hanna,
      It’s common to hear ‘ the Eritrean opposition is asking the Ethiopians to do their job.” Yes, there were some who worked hard for that, and they are still there, carrying on their nasty work. They are all “Made In Ethiopia” if you understand what I mean. And they were enabled hindrances to our struggle. But since most people like to use blanket statements the entire opposition was accused of that. But we most of us know who they are and why they do what they do. It’s just like in the fiftieth, what Shaleqa Dawit never tires of reminding us, there were unionists who wanted Janhoi or death, but that doesn’t mean all Eritreans wanted to be under Janhoi. In fact the few who were steering the Andenet party were all directed by a known Ethiopian colonel whose sole job was to nurture and finance the andenet party, and threaten their opponents.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Saleh Johar,

        I am perfectly aware of our history. It all started with good intentions. The road to hell is paved in gold, they say.

        What I am suggesting this time around is: Made in Ethiopia is for Ethiopia and Made in Eritrea is for Eritrea.
        Let us not mix parts and design to repeat the same old history. I know you don’t like one line responses, but the points I was making earlier is all what I can say.

        Mr. K.H

      • Desbele

        Selam Saleh,

        I mostly depend on Tekeste Negash’s book for the account of the Federation time. I disagree on your last sentence that Andenet were few and steered by Col. Nega.
        From the book: “Col Negga Haile Selassie intimated to me(author) that whatever he knew of Ethiopian history he learned it in Eritrea from the leaders of the Unionist Party”
        “The archival sources do not provide any proof that the Ethiopian colonel-
        was doing the job of the Unionist Movement.”

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Amba. Kim Hanna,

      How the “surgically removing PIA” came about may have been forgotten but if examined within the context from which it was discussed it was reasonable idea.

      1) Eritrea-Ethiopia were in state of war (no-peace-no-war is just a nicer version)

      2) PIA was causing serious problems for Ethiopia as well

      3) Ethiopia was taking occasional military strikes inside Eritrea for a lot less

      4) Ethiopia does not allow armed organizations in the land

      So, between friends and neighbors: ዱቄት ካለሽ ስጭኝ ወይም ሙቀጫውን ኣቀብይኝ ማለት መች ነውር ሆነ?

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Fanti Ghana,

        Brother Fanti, I request to be just a Mister/Ato instead of Ambassador. I keep forgetting to ask. It is like wearing shoe size 14 when all I need is 11.

        The list you enumerated are true.
        The gist of what was being advocated in reality was to go to Asmara to get PIA. One big problem, you have to go through the Eritrean defense forces to get to PIA.
        One can use terms like “surgical” “limited” “brotherhood” to sell the idea to strike the match.
        I perfectly understand it from some Eritrean opposition point of view. I also perfectly understand that it was insanity on our part to engage in that kind of adventure.

        Don’t you think we have enough of our own problems to address instead of the madness that was being advanced.

        Mr. K.H

      • Selam Fanti Ghana,

        Maybe you are not paying much attention, as Abi says. You did not try to look for the kernel of the message, when that diabolic plan, “invade eritrea, and later on, surgical strike” were entertained by the cunning minds.

        At one point MZ had said that his government’s policy would be to unseat the eritrean regime. As a politician, he did not use terms like, “invade eritrea” or any thing like that, and of course, he did not push for it further than helping some opposition, and even that, not really much. Some closet tplf apologists were the ones who brought the scenario of invasion and surgical strike (not you), with a sinister plan in mind, to bring the whole region to chaos and may be for other reasons too.

        During that time there was not a single eritrean opposition group that could be said was accepted by most eritreans, as there are not today, or had a reasonable number of followers so that at least theoretically capable of ruling eritrea. Even in ethiopia there were many eritrea opposition groups, some were agreeable to tplf and others rejected. Opposition groups were opposed to each other, forgetful of the regime, one could say.

        The diabolic plan of invade eritrea and surgical intervention was, to shed ethiopian blood – spill eritrean people’s blood – create a power vacuum – place a puppet (proxy) government in asmara that cannot defend its power and will not be accepted by any eritrean, let alone by the other opposition groups – create chaos – station ethiopian military in eritrea with the excuse to avert chaos, which is equivalent to occupation – and finally, returning eritrea back to square one (another round of thirty years of war of independence).

        They did not care the cost in human life and the ethiopian economy. Much more, there was no way ethiopians and eritreans would put up with tplf ruling from addis and asmara simultaneously. It would have destroyed both eritrea and ethiopia. That was a diabolic scenario, and i was among those who opposed it vehemently.

        Especially now is the time when such a thing can NEVER happen. I do not accept the “one man is the problem” theory. The problem is IA and the system he created with his supporters in which many eritreans participate. Instead of war, bloodshed and destruction, what if ethiopia abducts IA (crazy scenario, of course), during one of his many visits. Will that solve eritrea’s problems? Don’t you think that it will open the door for somebody else, even his son, and nothing more will happen? Eritreans should solve this eritrean problem themselves, and nobody else. Therefore, even saints should sometimes be suspicious. This is a world of human beings.

        Finally, if the new problem is why should Abiy deal with IA, unfortunately there is nobody else to deal with. Otherwise, things should return back to the previous status quo, cancel the peace deal and the rapprochement, etc, a situation that costs a lot to eritreans in eritrea and nothing to those in the diaspora. If eritreans who live the reality back home had the right to speak their minds, what would have they said? Nobody ever asked them, not the regime and not the eritrean diaspora.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Horizon,

          I may not look it but I am really paying attention-:)

          I really don’t have any issues with the argument against the “surgically remove the leadership” suggestion. In fact, I was one of those who voiced against it at the time because it sounded impractical but definitely not because it was ill-intentioned.

          What I tried to show earlier was that the suggestion was not without merit and there was definitely no sinister motive behind it. At the time, the discussion, more like brain storming, was about possible ways to remove PFDJ including removing it using violent means and how that may lead to a civil war.

          It was the consequences of potentially endless civil war that brought the idea of Ethiopia finishing the job. Many of us voiced our opinions against it for our respective reasons and the idea was more or less forgotten soon after.

          If you remember, some Awatistas accused those who suggested it of being secret unionists, as wanting for Ethiopia to invade Eritrea and occupy it for good, as wishing the DERG era for Eritreans out of malice for the people, and many more equally outrageous accusations.

          At the same time they were being accused of being anti-Eritrea, they were also being accused of trying to save Eritrea with Ethiopian’s blood, and generally, they were accused of wishing Eritrea become a permanent parasite of Ethiopia.

          Clearly, these two groups of accusers are in contradiction with one another, but I don’t recall anyone of one group attempting to correct the other whatsoever. As if the attack on the individual or individuals who suggested the idea was too important that no one bother to see the incredulity of it all.

          Those who suggested the idea cannot be pro Eritrea, pro Ethiopia, and pro chaos simultaneously. The truth is that it was one more idea to consider among many in the quest to remove PFDJ from power and nothing more. It was an innocent and casually suggested idea believing that it would minimize the damage for all involved.

          • Selam Fnati Ghana,

            Don’t you think that more violence is the wrong prescription for the people of eritrea, when we know that they have suffered state violence under consecutive governments, ethiopian and eritrean?

            One cannot solve a problem with another problem, state violence with more violence. It is not going to be an easy walk to asmara, rather, it is going to be bloody and destructive, however one calls it, surgical or non-surgical.

            The balkans are still in a turmoil, and what would have happened if violence was used in the case of N. Korean? I hope that the west and the gcc will not usa violence to solve the iranian political standoff, because our region will be negatively affected.

            In eritrean case the result would have been the creation of power vacuum, as i said, and as you very well know, nature hates vacuum, and the result would have been that some power would have filled the void, strong enough to hold on to power.

            Eritreans are fleeing eritrea in search of peace and security much more than for their economic wellbeing, and the least they expect to receive is more violence.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam K.H.,

      The onus to get rid of the demon is sole responsibility of the Eritrean people. And, that will happen sooner or later through effort or fate – forced removal or God’s intervention. What they are telling the Ethiopians through organized and private (such as this open letter) channels is that while taking advantage of current conditions in Eritrea and the needs of a despot, they have to be aware that they are enabling him and prolonging the plight of Eritrea.

      From human rights point of view, conscientiousness and moral rectitude of peace and freedom loving neighboring nation, to justify policy that is focusing on resolution of current challenges faced by dealing with a demon just because there is lack of an angel in Eritrea is dubious to put it mildly. Such an attitude becomes graver and hurting when people in distress are told to “call back” when they install and angel to rule on them; and until then keep mouths shut and let us alone while extracting as much as we can from an aging demon.

      I think the current conditions of Eritrea’s justice seekers is not that much different from the docile and helpless conditions the Ethiopian opposition were in before the activism of the Qerros launched the journey to the ascendance of the Dr. Abij and his partners. If the reverse would be true, I think the Ethiopians would be doing the same as we Eritreans are doing. I mean they would remind Eritreans (or any other nation in the neighbourhood) that the Ethiopian peoples are being taken advantage through enabling of their tormentors.

      • Aligaz G

        Ismail,

        In order to be consistent let me remind you that during the kerro uprising and before and even now the Eritrean opposition as represented in this forum overwhelmingly supports the overthrown dictatorial regime in Ethiopia. To this day, the level of support TPLF gets from the Eritrean opposition in this forum is astounding and raises a lot questions as to whether the opposition itself actually believes in democracy for Eritrea. Anyway this conversation is long overdue.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Aligaz G.

          Nice to have you back in conversation. If I understood you well, I fail to get why you had been provoked to slide back to “long ordue” discussion. I am not sure my reference to the Qerro rebellion had any link to support or lack of it to the TPLF. What I wrote was comparing the state of pre-Qerro induced changes of the Ethiopian oppositions groups to current conditions of the Eritrean opposition.

          Moreover, I have no idea whether “dictatorial regime” was toppled in Ethiopia. The EPRDF is in tact whilet it responded to escalating grass roots demands and that forced internal reshuffle of personel on the Executive level to manage the challenges it had faced. Unless standards have changed, there has not been any sort of regime change or revolution in Ethiopia. Correct me if I am wrong.

          • Aligaz G

            Hi Ismail,

            Wecome to October17 2018. There is a revolution underway in Ethiopia. The only debate is in the course. The dictatorial regime that was overthrown was the TPLF regime. The pre change TPLF conditions were analogous in many ways but at a lower severity to PFDJ Eritrea. The long overdue discussion refers to how democratic forces in the horn should attempt to work together.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aligaz,

            Well, as I wrote earlier, views can vary in accordance to akinity to a purpose and trajectory of looking at it. For those who had seen the current events in Ethiopia as far fetched or near dream prospectives (the then docile and Ethiopian opposition fractious opposition included) could grade what is going on as “revolution”, in a sense of removing one governance system and supplanting it with another.

            Of course, I won’t expect you contruing my point as an attempt to underrate the changes and the role of the legally (within the working governance institutions in the country) installed excutive personel.
            But, considering mechanisms and dynamic that govern regime change through revolutionary process, what is happening in Ethiopia is manifestation of guarded reform within existing governance system.

          • Aligaz G

            Ismail,

            You are fundamentally wrong. it is a velvet revolution masquerading as mere reform. Makes it more palatable that way.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aligaz,

            Couldn’t pick the sense. Where am I wrong? The very actors who are shepherding the changes have not yet claimed they are leading a”revolution” in Ethiopia. Your statement that it’s “a velvet revolution” is a personal view,which no one has yet spoken about. Of course, that is fine as a matter of personal perception and endearment of the changes.

            But, still I am not sure your last opinion (velvet revolution), which you thought can fit the definition of the Abij-Lemma tenure measures on behalf of the EPRDF, would get the label you mentioned or even would qualify as candidate for Rene Sharp and George Soros – the financial sponor of movements in East Europe wielding colored banners.

          • Aligaz G

            Ismail,

            First please understand the term revolution vs reform. Second understand the difference between a velvet revolution and a color revolution. Third come to Addis in order to see whether a revolution is underway or not. Btw there is a an anecdote where the soldiers who overthrew the king were declaring their loyalty to the throne until the very last moment. Hence the term “creeping revolution”. But if it makes you feel better call it a purple transition or a deep deep tahdiso.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aligaz,
            I think the discussion is getting a bit tired and running into vicious circle. At every turning of a corner, the debate steps into a terrain with different name and color. Better to halt it here. And many thanks for engaging.

          • Aligaz G

            Ismail,

            I understand your need to step away from this “circular discussion” which is silly when coming from a person purporting to be a serious observer. But your superficial treatment of what constitutes a revolution needs to be addressed. First the very term is contested by many prominent political scientists. The spectrum of what constitutes a revolution eventually comes down to scale, rate and depth of change of political political systems plus a mass movement aspect. A classic revolution would be either the French or Russian revolutions. Some would include the American but even here there are many dissenters. Now some theoreticians would even include coup d’etats as revolutions. So what is a purple revolution? It is the change that happened in Iraq around 2005. What is the velvet revolution? This is the change that happened in Czechoslovakia in 1989. What is a creeping coup? This is the coup that overthrew HIM in 1974. And there are many more we can pick and choose elements to explain the current changes in Ethiopia. The understanding being not all revolutions fit the criteria of classical textbook revolutions.

            cheers

          • Ismail AA

            Selam dear Aligaz,

            I thought we were exchanging friendly conversation and none of us was in the business of testing one another’s credentials as observers. As to what counts as revolution and not, modesty requires me not to be presumptive to claim expertise on the field. But as student of history and related subjects some of you have mentioned, I do not remember scoring a failing grade. One final point I would like you to note is that I was not trying to undermine the good things that are happening in your country.

            In fact, as an Eritrean who had been exposed to considerable narrative of Ethiopian history on many aspects of it, I do not have mean sentiment toward the wellbeing of the Ethiopian masses. This is despite my frank misgivings about the current policies that damage the interest of the broad masses of our people by way of enabling a cruel despot.

            Thanks again for engaging.

          • Aligaz G

            Ismail,

            Put aside personal feelings and look at the situation objectively. Review carefully the events in Ethiopia and then make informed analysis as to what flavor of revolution is underway. Don’t start a conversation and then conveniently jettison ownership by claiming you are not an expert. You were expert enough to claim the current events do not meet the threshold requirements of revolution. Believe it or not there are no personal sentiments here on my side concerning you. I am only only referring to manifest inconsistencies in your posts which must be pointed out. This is a forum after all.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aligaz,

            Dear Aligaz, there is no mincing words or inconsistencies here. Objectivity and facts supported information on the ground does not inform a revolution is underway in your country. Carefully tailored reforms that fit the demographic balances in the ciuntry within a ruling broad front called EPRDF, you bet. This is the reality, sir. There is no attempt to “jetitison” or torpedo a discusion.

            Actually, as far as I have been following events since Abij’s installation, you are the only one claiming there is regime change and revolution. PM Abij and Lemma and any other have not yet voice claim of leading revolution. Oscillating and swinging from one term to another to an extent of creeping coup ala the Derg era do not really measure up to regime change through any kind of mechanism be that violent or graceful.

            The regime or system that has been ruling the country since 1991is still there. The only thing that happened is change of guard that was denominated by members of one partner in the front by members of another. One’s attitude to the former, the TPLF in this case and its former weigh and role, does not change the reality.

          • Aligaz G

            Ismail,

            It is good that you finally came out and stated your position without mincing words. Mincing word defeats the purpose of open discussions. Let us revisit this discussion in several months.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aligaz,

            “Let us revisit this discussion in several months”. Agreed, and hope we would do so. Moreover, as token of compliment, I should say I had enjoyed your resilience and persistence in agruing your views as I did through out the back and forth exchanges. Thanks for engaging.

          • Aligaz G

            Ismail,

            You are welcome.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            Perfect explanation as to the nature of change in Ethiopia. Like you have said the “system” remained intact so far. That includes (a) EPRDF remained intact (b) the current Federalism remained intact and will continue as a system of government (c) the mixed economy of “developmental state” will continue as was devised by the former PM. Switching leadership within the alliance is not in itself reformism. Vacating the prison houses, and now starting to fill it, does not amount change until we see a settled changes. Internal displacement of inhabitants is worsened in less than a year into his premiership. He is unable to face the challenges from the Oromo factions, waiting an advice from our despot. The plausible probability of our despot’s advice to the PM will be to disarm OLF by force – a thing to watch in the days ahead. So in a nutshell, until we see “stability and a settled reform” on the ground, it will be to early to assume and say there is a durable reform in Ethiopia. Probably, their coming elections will tell us something about the so called reforms.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Ismail AA,

        In Eritrea today the authority resides in PIA. He has the support of significant percentage of the population for the last 27 years.
        Ethiopia’s new Prime Minister came through several months ago into a complicated set of circumstances to navigate the storm to reach a somewhat stable condition. He is by no means in a stable condition yet.

        I have a concern that PIA would take advantage of the circumstances to change the track Ethiopia was on for his perceived benefit.
        To illustrate by way of an example: If PIA succeeds in getting Ethiopia to use the port of Assab, say arbitrary 25% of its import export business, it is an economic blunder for Ethiopia. It has an electrified railway connection completed with borrowed money not fully being used to capacity, in order to appease a neighbor.

        As if these types of problems are not enough, the effort being made to elicit support from Ethiopians against PIA is unfair to say the least.
        We really don’t know who is taking advantage of who. Don’t forget there are other outside players engaged in a material way with means at their disposal.
        I only hope Ethiopian leaders focus on its own well being 1st and foremost.

        Before I posted this note to you, I read MS post above. I have said many times that he is negative towards Ethiopia. On this particular topic, I couldn’t agree with him more, sign of the times changing alliances.

        Mr. K.H

        • Reclaim Abyssinia

          Dear KH,

          Just in response to “We really don’t know who is taking advantage of who”

          For a country, more than 106 million people, almost all majority of the people rely on agriculture, crops and livestock, for there food and income to survive. The recurring of starvation threat in Ethiopia imminent.

          The political unrest, corruption and ethnic-based defamation also adds up another challenge to the country. Ethiopia is staggering on the edge of bankruptcy.

          Corruption in Ethiopia has become a culture, overnight millionaires popup from every corner of the nation. The government of Ethiopia has failed to manage any of the Ethiopian gov corporations including the sugar factories, unless they took a very serious measure, Ethiopia will go bankrupt. It’s a country with Hospital & highrise building go missing.

          If Abiy needs help from Isayas(Eritrea) to guide him through this difficult time on stabilising the nation and assist the people of Ethiopia from misery then I don’t see any problem with that, it should actually be admired and supported. The civilised people of Eritrea see beyond retribution for what have happened to them.

          I’m sure Isayas will have a different view & a soft-spot for Ethiopia after visiting the southern part of Ethiopia. Because Ethiopia government has never represented the Ethiopian people in the past. All those wars and instability brought nothing to the majority of Ethiopia if not for all.

          It will also be disturbing to all African, if those bad images start to pop-up again on the world media. I think it’s a great initiation and it’s about time for the two nations to start to think for each other than becoming self-centred.
          Thanks,
          RA

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Dear All,

            I just saw couple of posts about the Hope & dream of the DANAKALI LTD. I personally believe they are just starting to get their act together. They have wasted so much time and they were struggling to raise fund with such golden opportunity.

            Hope & Dream of the Eritrean People

            Fundamental Analaysis of ASX: DANAKALI LTD : (DNK)

            52 wk Stock price Range 0.56 – 0.94c

            Average Vol. ( 200 year

            growth and diversification potential kieserite, gypsum,
            magnesium chloride and sodium chloride

            *Offtake MOUs signed EuroChem Trading GmbH (EuroChem)
            Term 10 year term

            “Technical Analysis
            12-Month Forecast (Lowest price)
            ” Pivot Point Highest expected
            $0.50 $0.81 $1.17

            1-Year Price Change 7.43%
            3-Year Price Change 178%

            The Social and Environmental Impact Assessment documents (SEIA) completed by CMSC contains a summary of the baseline conditions, the social and biophysical environmental impact assessment and the associated management and monitoring plans.

            Thanks,
            RA

          • Berhe Y

            Hi RA,

            I wasn’t following this company for a while but I thought they made good progress to where they are. It’s difficult to raise capital to go to production, specially when Eritrea have so much negative news associated with (such as UN sanctions, named at the top in almost all human rights organizations) etc.

            Berhe

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Hi Berhe,
            I try not to be -ve about it, but I think they are slack. People can raise $250m only with prospective.
            I think lot’s of diaspora out there who can do this easily. Our dependency on western is long gone.
            I think the problem with this one is.. it lucked a bit of genuinity for a longtime and the political risk was an issue.
            Anyhow, what I was trying to demonstrate, this is a smallcaps company and the way it’s going it will not be the bread & better of Eritrea, but there is something I know for sure.. it’s my garndpa land. 🙂 (If it mean anything..haha)
            Cheers,
            RA

          • Berhe Y

            Hi RA,

            Like I said I don’t know much about this company. But all the mining company that went to Eritrea are very small with almost non existent operations. Nevsunfir example, when it was operating in Eritrea it had one mine in Mali which was losing and it sold it for 20 million. Bisha was the only operation it had and everything was baked the Eritrea operations. It made good money and it bought another mine in somewhere eastern Russia I think. There is a hostile bid going on by another mine company and may be Chinese to buy them out. The two others, Sunridge Gold and another Australian company (forgot its name) were also bought by Chinese.

            Yes I agree with you that the ERITREAN/Ethiopian diaspora could have done it instead of depending on these guys.

            Berhe

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Mr. K.H.,

          Your line of thought about what Dr. Abij and his government can and cannot do is fair. Justice and freedom seekers in Eritrea never entertain the fantasy that determination of their destiny and future could be outsourced to any one – in the neighbourhood or beyond. MS did not but underscored the obvious in this regard. Peoples of nations in need cannot expect from their counterparts beyond token of solidarity.

          Thus, I think you would agree with me that the Eritrean and Ethiopian peoples do have mutual interests beyond tenures of governments that come and go. What we, as patriotic Eritreans are currently doing trying to remind the current government of Ethiopia about the wisdom of having broader look into the future while serving its priorities. For instance, worthy Ethiopian citizens would not see their government’s policy or peace-making as morally supportable when their borders are open for refugees running from oppression in country with which peace and trade is supposed to exchanged.

          To restate the facts, therefore, the onus of getting rid of the one-man despotism in our country lies with us. The AT is part and parcel in this scheme of the search of the means to end the current ordeal our nation has been facing. This open letter, in my view, is part of the role this media outlet should fulfil as opinion maker and public whistleblower of the ins and outs of policies governments make and implement bilaterally or multilaterally. The Eritrean-Ethiopian affairs at the present, too, fit in this context.

        • Blink

          Dear K.H
          The railroad ( Djibouti and Ethiopia) cost is around 4.8 billion usd with interest of the borrowed money. Ethiopian tax buyers pay heavy cash to Djibouti for containers service and also the goods sometimes got to be eliminated at the port due to different reasons. For example rice and wheat import through Djibouti port requires over 2 weeks to get PIP number due to congestion .Ethiopia will need more ports beyond Djibouti and Eritrea, the ports are not enough unless the two Eritrean ports are updated , don’t forget also the northern part like Tigray need Eritrean ports as the distance between the two is shorter by 1/2 and Eritrea can give the service at low prices because Eritrea will benefit from other access to Ethiopia as Djibouti is just can’t.

          The PM of Ethiopia is dealing with Eritrean government not with few Professors who has been in front of US senate asking for more sanctions and also blaming mining companies in Eritrea ( one of awate team professor Khalid was doing just that ) , Ethiopians are looking not for weyane hand to kill Eritreans in fact they do appreciate Issias on this bad situation they are in while we Eritreans are at dark by Issias. People like these advocating horrible things to the people living in Eritrea are these who were influenced by leadership of the secret Labour Party of ELF who believed foreigners can help them get the chair while they sit and count at brave ELF fight , they were like that for their whole life, many printers of ELF used to type many things using the old manual machine and now they got free access they will print many things.

          Ask yourself who are these people ? You will find everything you need below their name . You will see their naked plan of Ethnic hate, religious visions and many more like paying vengeance.

        • Selam Kim Hanna and R.A.,

          It seems that some people do not want to leave behind the old type of relationship between ethiopia and eritrea, and make a new start. Past remedies cannot solve 21st century problems.

          What does the ordinary eritrean has to lose or gain, and what should be the practical long term interest, stick on past protocol, or go to a win-win rapprochement? Do both people have the urgency to leave bind the past, and move to a new era or not?

          The following, i think, are rather the fundamental questions revolving in many minds.

          1) Why the eritrean regime is indifferent to increased human flow out of the country,
          2) The port of assab – some want it to continue as in the early 1990s, but ethiopia may not accept. Management of the ports by ethiopians is a possible worry. Stopping to use altogether will cost ethiopia more or less nothing, but eritrea a lot. Eritrean ports cannot handle more than a targeted amount of trade, as long as ethiopia has invested and entered debt agreement with china to use the port of djibouti (as K.H. said).
          3) It seems that some eritreans are worried about the blurring of the dividing line between ethiopia and eritrea, provided the border is not demarcated, the fear that eritrean ports maybe managed by ethiopians, and eritreans are crossing the border and making ethiopia their home.

          Where is that dividing line? The regime does not seem to care and the people do not seem to care either, only diaspora eritreans

          These are some of the things that complicate the situation for some eritreans. The past cannot continue to exist as it used to be, the present is scary because it undermines the past, and a new uncertain future is ahead of us. Some people feel damned if they go with the change, equally damned if they dump it and forget all about it.

          The West is fed up of the ethio-eritrean quagmire, which indirectly affects them through the outflow of refugees, and any solution is equally good for them, provided the status quo is changed, and refugees coming out of eritrea are decreased in number. China in the region and throughout africa is their other worry, not eritrea or ethiopia.

          Those foreign powers that affected the political situation of the region in the past are themselves on a life and death existential struggle, new masters are around, KSA and UAE, whose policy is not well known, nevertheless, seems completely different from the past, and they are telling us with their petro-dollars that they are around.

          Finally, if the peace deal and ethio-eritrean rapprochement fail, then, the eritrean side will be burdened with the responsibility of not wanting a solution. No way to go back on the deals (haileTG) is true. For the time being, it looks like it concerns much more the eritrean diaspora, not the regime and not the ordinary eritrean, who seems to have found some relief from decades of suffering.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi K.H. and Horizon,

            I think we need to stop making assumption. I really do not understand the real reason why Ethiopia spent so much to build the rail road with borrowed money from Djibouti when it had the ability to influence the Eritrean government in first place. I have heard Melles video explaining the decision to use Djibouti ports and abandon Eritrean ports. He said something like “even though it make sense to use Eritrean ports instead of Djibouti, but from the benefit point of view, we believe, Eritrea would benefit more than that Ethiopia would lose” I am paraphrasing..so the whole premise of using port of Djibouti, was not because it benefits Ethiopia better but it hurts Eritrea most. And he was right, Eritrea did suffer the most.

            But was this the right decision, by some political leaders who never have to live a day in the shoes of those who suffer from this consequences?

            It had never made sense to me, and I don’t think hurting Eritrea was the sole reason. I think, as far as TPLF is concerned, they wanted to totally erase the relation ship between Eritrea and Ethiopia people. That I think, they thought their grantee to Tigray / TPLF to stay relevant in the Ethiopian political. I have argued in the past, the railway Ethiopia build, it’s like the British create open another canal through the gulf Aqaba Or the US creates another canal and abandon Panama. It’s crazy and it makes no sense.

            So that’s the political side of, but let’s look at the economic side. If you make a simple google search between Massawa – Mekele (6 hrs) and Djibouti – Mekele (12 hours). These make no economic sense, basically most of cost is in transporting the goods.

            Second: PM AA said, the went to S.A. to ask if they can use a port because, it takes too long and costs too much to use the port of Djibouti. He said Ethiopia is ranked 172 as far as processing and handling goods ( in terms of efficiency). Using Eritrean ports (25% seems very reasonable to me) to:
            1) Offload the capacity of Djibouti
            2) Cost saving (transportation and others).

            This are the direct benefits to Ethiopia but what other benefits as a result of good and healthy relationship.

            Other factors were:
            1) Ethiopian shipping line using Eritrea goods import /exports. As per the Ethiopian head of shipping lines, he said he expects Ethiopia to make close to 1 million dollars monthly (not a small number) but it defiantly helps.
            2) Ethiopia wants to build it’s shipping and build it’s navy. Now I think, this will have a long term advantage for security and well being of Ethiopia. Djibouti was being crowded by all the super powers, China, US, France and Ethiopia is a small player in this crowded region. Having access to Eritrean costs, I think, strategically, is a huge hedge for it’s security the security. Egypt has invested quite heavily in it’s military, not only in it’s military aircraft, but aircraft carriers, submarines. I would guess, Egypt main concern is it’s security specific to Nile waters. Now Ethiopia would defiantly needs to build it’s capacity for it’s long term safety and security.

            Eritrean / Ethiopian Potash mines:
            Eritrea is in the process of building Potash mines. These is not just speculation but Australian company have raised enough capital to build it. I think on the side of Ethiopia similar project has started. Using different port other than Djibouti benefits Ethiopia, rather than crowding the same port with additional exports. Same goes for all other mining activities in different parts of Northern Ethiopia.

            Other tangible benefits:
            Ethiopian airlines: Access to Eritrean travelers. I don’t the numbers, but I sense this will benefit Ethiopian.

            Ethiopian construction: I think the Eritrean contractors have been diminished because of PFDJ restrictive policy. If Eritrea opens up fully, the potential construction opportunities are huge. Be it from the Diaspora and local communities, but also tourism related activities and Ethiopians business people have an edge in this matter because of the capital and the experiences they had in the last 20 years.

            Sure this will help Eritrea because there will be:
            1) Cheaper access to day to day needs (food, coffee, tea, sugar etc.
            2) Access to trade Eritrean goods (if there are any) to Ethiopian market
            3) Access to Ethiopian tourists visiting Eritrean (hotel, restaurants, shops, etc).

            I really doubt the PFDJ is a good partner but Ethiopia should look into the relationship with PFDJ and influence in positive ways to help change and make the lives of ordinary Eritreans better.

            The more Eritreans find it easy to live in their country, work and live in peace, the more Eritreans will build their confidence to challenge the regime to change and eventually take ownership of their destiny. And Ethiopia will benefit in the long run from stable and prosperous Eritrea.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            All the points you mentioned above are true. Unfortunately, some eritreans are opposing the deal by cherrypicking and accepting some, while dismissing the rest. What sort of relation and trust will that create on the ethiopian side? The mistrust is not from the eritrean side only.

            Ethiopia was forced to use djibouti and abandon assab. The eritrean regime showed in practice it could blackmail and bring ethiopia to its knees by confiscating the goods that were at assab. How could ethiopia continue business as usual under these conditions. Was it possible to persuade the regime under the condition of war?

            Why did not the eritrean regime think about all these, the impact of the war on the economy, people to people relation, and its long term effect, when it started the war? It was because it believed it would have a clean victory, and tplf would succumb and accept its terms. If eritrea was hurt, it was the consequence of the aggressive police of the regime against ethiopia.

            The railway will always be useful. Djibouti ‘s existence is tied to ethiopia using the port, and she will continue to use it. I do not think that ethiopia will expose herself again to eritrean blackmail, who ever the future government of eritrea is going to be. Who said that eritrea would not do it again? Why is ethiopia searching in all places for a sea outlet, because she cannot trust anyone of those whom she deals with, not even djibouti.

            The importance of eritrean ports was much more not appreciated by the eritrean regime and the blame lies with it than with anybody else. Otherwise, if it were a normal government and not so arrogant until few months ago, it would have done its best to attract ethiopia to use the ports.

            Is it possible to postpone the peace deal and the rapprochement until somebody trusted by all eritrean comes to the scene, if there will ever be such government? What is the use of aiming for the best deal, when everything will be lost if delayed? The best deal for eritrea as some people think, may not be a deal acceptable to ethiopia, and where would the vicious circle end? Both must come halfway to the win-win position, or say No to everything.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I am not at any point justifying IA / PFDJ action for starting the way and for keeping the Eritrean people hostage.

            What I am saying, is Ethiopia had the ability to force the outcome for it’s own benefit. I didn’tthink, TPLF cutting ties with Eritrea was looking at Ethiopia over all best interests. I think TPLF used the war for it’s own benefit as well.

            As far as the good that were in Assab etc..I think, first I think Ethiopia who refused to go Assab to collect the goods. Second, I think Ethiopia had the means to force Eritrea to comply using all means available at it’s disposal, international community etc…

            I am saying the relationship that started with Eritrea (even PFDJ / IA) at the helm is a good start in my opinion. And Ethiopia should continue to enhance it but it should try to make it formal and use available international methods instead of making a deal with IA and forget about the consequences that may come.

            Sure, nothing anyone can do make everyone happy. But if it’s done with best intentions, I think in the long run it will serve everyone good.

            BTW, I am not suggesting Ethiopia use Eritrean ports only but what ever makes economic and political means. All I am saying “hurt Eritrea more” should NOT be the the “ONLY” reason, which I think it was the case.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            In my opinion, it will be a pity if this chance of a lifetime is lost for the sake of mistrust and egoism coming especially from the eritrean side. Many say that they will annul the agreements in the future. Let them do so, nevertheless, let them help eritreans breathe the air of some freedom, freedom to travel, trade and communicate, now that the regime’s iron grip is somehow relaxed. From what we see eritreans seem to be doing exactly that, as they trade at the borders, visit friends and relatives, etc.

            Some people do have their own picture of eritrea and eritrean independence in their minds. Maybe they want to see a permanent wall that keeps eritrea untouched by ethiopia, suspicious of everything ethiopia does. This was what we had seen over the last two decades, and it was not to the advantage of the eritrean people. The new relationship may work, and being so much cautious and looking at it in a negative way only, may not be the right thing to do. There is no reason why eritreans would not withdraw from this relationship in the future, if they find it against their interest.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I think people are entitled to their opinions and they can say what ever they wanted to say. Personally I think the peace brings, that Ethiopia accepted Eritrean boarders and that Eritreans do not have continuous fear over Ethiopia long term agenda of reversing Eritrean independence. And second like you said, Eritrean have not a better chance of fighting the dictatorship from within our without because the country is opening up some how, which makes the regime vulnerable.

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,

            You are bringing up agenda items for discussion by two normal neighbors. That is what mid level government officials should be hammering out. We are not there yet.
            The topic of discussion is something “experts” from both sides sit down to strike a deal that is beneficial to both countries that will endure the test of time.
            We hope that day will come.

            A couple of points of contention on your post.

            The shortest distance and time it takes to travel is not necessarily a straight line, as you know.

            Djibouti was used as a natural outlet through the rift valley during Menelik and beyond.
            Now, the electrified rail line is a fact on the ground and its full usage is what pays for the debt incurred to build it.

            The northern part and the southern part of Ethiopia need to look for their logical cost effective outlets.

            You mentioned Potash mining, if it was up to me that would be the starting point of a solid economic foundation both parties can cooperate and create that will exemplify the win win formula. A joint venture that will model a good healthy relationship.

            Finally I want to come back to the idea that Ethiopian leaders somehow find ways to make the lives of Eritreans better. I certainly would not want Eritrean leaders to look for ways to make Ethiopian lives better.
            That is a slippery slope both sides must avoid as a government, no matter how tempting.

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hi Kim-H; your yada aside, you said ” Now, the electrified rail line is a fact on the ground and its full usage is what pays for the debt incurred to build it.”
            No it won’t. your toothless train is killing hundreds of camels and thousand of demotic animals. The train administrator keeps paying huge money for compensation to the owners of the Animals and the train is operating in a loss. That what PMAA went to China to extend the loan time frame. China is in mission to catch countries in debt trap. They lone all the money and once you are unable to pay it back, they take something from you. in this case it is a matter of time the Ethiopian airlines to ended up in china’s hand. do you know what happened to Sri Lanka? They gave up their ports for 99 years.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            What!!! Ethiopian Airlines……China…..Sri Lanka…….ports for 99 years…..yada yada.
            Nitricc, we don’t have ports, did you forget?

            You probably think Ethiopian Airlines is more important than the Railway for the average Ethiopian. I think the opposite.

            What, Camels!!! Camells vs Raliways!!!! What is next.

            By the way: Did you know there is a stock exchange market in Afar-land, 72.4 Kilometers north east of Semere.
            That is where they bring in the old and tired toothless camels to cash in on their new final line of work. The entrepreneur who specializes in this market trains his agents the finer points of the transaction and sends them on their way. They work on commission.

            Do you want me to continue on, Nitricc. I can make up stories just like you, mine actually might be even more plausible than yours. Please don’t attach a YouTube video you viewed.

            Another by the way: You were in Israel recently on job assignment, did you make to Gojjam by any chance?

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey Kim; you’re a little bit behind on your international game. And you are right just wait for the weekend and i will present my evidence. And i know you don’t have ports because the brave people of Eritrea took what is theirs with incredible blood and fight but China don’t care what you have and what you don’t. When the time comes, they will take whatever you have. Look Dejubiti gone to China 100%, i have no doubt, next is Ethiopia. Get ready. i am just preparing the inevitable course of action.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear K.H.

            The shortest path was not based on straight line but based on google map roads. I don’t know it’s accuracy but 6 hrs Massawa – Mekele sounds reasonable to me. Massawa – Asmara 1 hr, Asmara – boarder – 3 hrs, boarder – mekele 2hrs.

            I really don’t know the logistics of the rail lines and it’s economic viability if it’s better than road travel but you are correct it has to make economic sense. My comments were based on what the PM said, the challenges they have using Djibouti ports and they were looking at flying Ethiopians goods to Saudi Arabia and ship them out. Plus how long the merchants pay to clear their goods out of that port, few weeks if not months.

            I wasn’t indicating Ethiopia stop using Djibouti all together, I was thinking the 25% you mentioned. True Ethiopia have used Djibouti in the past, but I am assuming the amount may not be what’s today (10 million would be at most Ethiopian population) at that time compare to 100 million today.

            Again my point, it has to make sense not just emotional reaction but sensible leaders.

            As to Ethiopian leaders making life of Eritreans better, I agree with you, they shouldn’t other than what’s required of them as per normal international protocol expected them.

            I don’t think the expectation of Eritreans is that in general, what the ask is if I am not mistaken, Ethiopian leaders should not go out of their way to canonize the ERITREAN dictator who made the country a living hell for Eritreans.

            They do have the moral obligation to stand up with those who are wronged and use their good offices to influence for the better. And the call from Eritreans is to the Ethiopian leaders concise.

            If for example the US, does the same thing, I think we would still highlight the misery the Eritreans go through under his regime.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            1, all imported goods destination r addis, where the importers and the bank lc existed.(except oil and aid foods) from there they will be redistribute to other parts of ethiopia. That is the case untill now but there is a work going on to change it.
            2, almost all export goods pass through addis. Except a very few amount of sesame goes to port sudan and straight to Djibouti.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,

            I agree with most of what you said. The canonizing of the Eritrean dictator in Ethiopia is a problem for me too. He is a sort of a celebrity in Addis who know him by name only. Just the same to see Addis residents reaction and his counter-reaction was nauseating to me.

            I never thought he was a good man, no dictator is really that good.
            The day I read a report that an imprisoned minister’s wife went to Asmara with approval of authorities to then been whisked away from the airport without seeing her children and to not be heard from again was and is evil at its core.
            No one, including PM Abiy in his hearts of hearts can look away from it. It is a devil’s work.

            Mr. K.H

  • Consolation

    Selam Awate Team

    In the classic novel Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, a book published in 1812, the heroine says, “There is a fine old saying, which everybody here is of course familiar with: ‘Keep your breath to cool your porridge’; and I shall keep mine to swell my song.” If that saying was onld in 1812, by now it must be very very old. The Awate Team, however, don’t seem to be aware of it. What is the point of appealing to the Ethiopian government a day after Isaias Afwerki visited Ethiopia to help solve the knotty problem with the OLF? Are you guys so out of touch that you are not aware of the enormous debt the Ethiopia people owe to Eritrea?

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awate Team,

    Political appeals do not produce solutions. Diplomatic engagements could. For years different appeals have been written by concerned individuals and groups and haven’t produced any influence either to the power of the day or to any government entities who cooperate, make agreements, and treaties with our despot.

    Nations work for their interests. Ethiopia will not be different. Ethiopia has immense advantages from the current agreements and they can not forfeit their interest to advocate and pressure Issayas on behalf of Eritreans to change his oppressive policy. It won’t happen. Second, the current Ethiopian PM is hoping from the current “military and security agreements”, that Issayas will play a big role in stabilizing the security of his country. The current visit of Issayas to Addis is to meet the OLF, the organization which has been using for destabilizing the former Ethiopian regimes. Third, Issayas has already dispatched his security organ to Ethiopia to help the PM to hunt destabilizing elements and groups. Fourth, Ethiopia has got free access to the Ethiopian ports that has been their dreams and fought for decades. Fifth, the PM might have a hope from Issayas to re-annex Eritrea. So why would Ethiopia act against Issayas policy at the risk of all the stated benefits. Eritreans must work beyond appeals to get solutions to our predicaments and protect our sovereignty.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Aman, kemey.

      It’s true that appeals from the disadvantaged with in political relations in nation state engagements that hanker after national interest focused goals have no impact unless the appealing side can muster real or potential factors that qualify them to play game changer role. As you have stated and the open letter articulated, Ethiopia and its government can be expected to be an exception in hunting its tactical and strategic goals as we are witnessing at the present.

      In my view, communications as this one are useful more as reminder to the public opinion in Ethiopia than having leverage on the government to change direction. The goverment has priority to book success in resolving social, economic and political problems that are crucial to pulling their country from the current transitional fragile setup that can impact nation building that can sustain the nation and enhance its conference. The point that Eritrean patriots should underscore is, as the open letter states, and you, too, have mentioned, the Ethiopian public opnion should be aware that the Eritreans who had struggled with incomparable patriotism to restore their independent and sovereign nationhood are potentially weak despite the plight and medicaments they have been facing in the past two and more decades under a treacherous despot – embodiment of historical aberration that which be sooner or later be corrected by the Eritrean people.
      Those who doubt the Eritrean resolve should be reminded that the determination that showed in the past and the circumstances that faced them were much less formidable than surmounting the challenges that may pose to undermine their rights as a free nation.

      Our Ethiopian brothers should be aware that foresight and long term interest weigh more than transient advantages the dictator exchanges for the sake of his own survival.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Merhaba Ismailo,

        Good to see you back brother. On the appeal: first, I don’t think that both the government and the public at large would care about the interest and sovereignty of our country at this point. Just watch the interview of Jawar, saying we should not interfere on their internal affairs. Second, Issayas’s strategy is to weaken the Eritrean defense force (EDF) by allowing the Ethiopian Navey to control the Red Sea costs of our sovereignty. Third, Issayas is giving our ports to managed by Ethiopian experts, as if the Eritreans are unable to manage them. Fourth, Issayas has killed the can do Eritrean spirit, and our young are still leaving our country in droves even after the declaration of peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Issayas is doing his home work step by step to dismantle the the nation as independent sovereign nation. It is mind boggling Eritreans are not serious enough to stop the project of this evil man.

        Ismailo, the Eritrean people have lost all the “respects and dignity”. Just watch how Eritreans crowded in the streets of Ethiopian cities with no shelter to stay in. It is time, that our generation to bear all the responsibilities to the predicament of our young generation. We failed to bring peace and stabilities in their lives. I sincerly felt that. Bringing an independent nation that doesn’t peace and freedom has not value to them, hence they are leaving the nation in droves to all directions. Sad to watch.

        Regards

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Aman,

          I second your concerns fully. The national liberation struggle era generation bear shared responsibility as you stated. But, the fact we are facing this current predicament, it does, in my humble view, not mean we should think all is lost. The dictator and his surrogates could go any distance in their treason.

          Noble nations envious of their identity in freedom and self rule do have limits to what they can tolerate. I shouldn’t count out the heroes heroines who marched to Asmara in 1991, nor the descendants of the heroes who despite the odds had answered the call the Great Awate and his 13 pioneers and the sound of the first bullets that heralded the Eritrean long march from the slopes of mt. Adal on the first day of September 1961.

          As I notedd earlier, the dispot is an aberration. True, he a heavy burden; it is one that will have to be erased. The sons and daughters of free Eritrea shall wake up. When people become to the corner, making history may not need mass uprising. A few could pose as trigger galvanize to mass movements.

        • Reclaim Abyssinia

          Dear Amanuel,

          I feel you!!!, so I decide to write you a little poem called “one true nation”

          Life is so unpredictable
          unforeseen and untouchable
          with its own an equilibrium direction
          can’t sail it with Gyrocompass of navigation
          seek out true north on its destination.

          The force of wave makes the transformation
          Centre of gravity mark its connection
          We strive so hard to meet our expectation
          Yet few don’t give up with frustration
          Because they only have one true nation.

          Cheers,
          RA

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam RA,

            Eritrean nation’s watch words and watch phrases are from the despot:

            (a) we can form a joint government

            (b) we are one people

            (c) whether you could call it “federation” or “Confederation” our relationship will grow up to a “borderless State”

            (d) our “economic integration” will lead us to “political integration.”

            These are red signals that has been warning us for over two decades for the “true nation” you are talking about. “Frustration” does not always lead to “give ups” and for sure I am not.

          • Reclaim Abyssinia

            Selamat Amanuel,
            I think things will turn up to be ok in near future (+vity from my side). In the meantime best to look after yourself, your passion and concerns are very understandable.
            Cheers

    • Saleh Johar

      Ahlan Amanuel,

      The letter is neither an appeal nor does it has the word appeal. But since you considered the letter an appeal, what followed is all based on an assumption that is not there.

      You also wrote: “Nations work for their interests. Ethiopia will not be different. Ethiopia has immense advantages from the current agreements and they can not forfeit their interest to advocate and pressure Issayas on behalf of Eritreans to change his oppressive policy.”

      And this what is in the message: “A few people who are supposed to know better justify your actions with the pretext that, “Dr. Abiy is working for the interest of his country.” We do not doubt that, but Eritreans will not endorse shoddy deals concluded behind their back, without their blessing, and against their national interest.”

      See how you have erred? No one is questioning that all countries work for their interest, but that doesn’t mean we have to be quite about it if it hurts our interest. We know that the Soviets and others worked for their interest when they supported the Derg, buut that didn’t prevent us from considering them allies of our enemy–Awate Foundation doesn’t have a military power or diplomatic muscle to use. It’s doing its job, bringing the Eritrean issues to those who might not understand it, initiating a discourse with those interested, and expressing the views of many Eritreans. That’s all.

      As for the rest of your points, they are common knowledge. You are right and no one would differ with you on the points you mentioned. However, still, knowing that we all know it, you had to write them. That is what the message did 🙂

      We also understand that many have been writing on different topics–would you stop writing because everybody is doing that and it doesn’t work?

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam aman h
      ur source of information based on crap Facebook news like, PIA invites tigrai president dr debrestsion to visit eritrea ,PIA visit to addis is to meet olf leaders and stuff like that and u came here to have serious conversation based on ur crap news? What a Funnyman.

  • sara

    hello.. Ethiopians
    congratulation…
    unlike any where in the developing or developed nations of the world -Ethiopia has now
    become the only country to have 50% of the highest positions of state to be headed by women/female.
    imagine ,elsewhere in the world is now on ME TOO … women are undervalued , abused
    insulted etc and here in east Africa – women are leading a country of 100000000 people.
    congra again –Ethiopians

    • Kaddis

      Dear Sara –

      Its one of those exciting days – when you see us, the men,
      challenged. You see our call for “change” was not really gender neutral.
      It was a call for the older men to be changed by the younger men.

      One great move from a young PM with three daughters 🙂

      On the editorial – I still recommend to google Ethiopia: በወቅታዊ እና በዐብይ የሀገሪቷ ፖለቲካ ላይ ከአክቲቪስት ጀዋር መሃመድ ጋር የተደረገ ቃለምልልስ

      And try to understand how desperate the Ethiopian gov is dealing with the bizarre Isaias and the Gulf politics ( maybe after 30 minutes)

      • Aligaz G

        Kaddis,

        The attempt to be inclusive goes beyond gender to religion. Even symbolically the idea that we now have a Muslim lady as Defense Minister and another as the Minister of Peace (nice Orwellian twist here) in charge of the spy apparatus is a very powerful statement coming from the change group. Concerning the Gulf countries including KSA and Isaias, I don’t see any desperation on the part of the Ethio govt. Jawar is preaching policy independence and non alignment and this has always been the foreign policy. There are no fundamental changes in the country’s foreign policy objectives or independence. In fact the added credibility gained by the revolution significantly increases the influence of Ethiopia around the globe.

        • Kaddis

          Dear Aligaz –

          I hope so too; we stay non-aligned. But Jawar would not be in a warning mode if he didn’t see signs of being a client state to the monarchs and by extension the US.

          • Aligaz G

            Kaddis,

            Jawar also wants to show his relevance in the face of the appalling massacres perpetrated in Burayo by Oromo nationalists emboldened by his 2 governments assertions. This horrible massacre was a wake up call to his handlers in the US. Anyway, the Abiy machine is relentlessly and systematically sidelining his power ambitions.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Kedis; what do you mean ” dealing with the bizarre Isaias”

        • Kaddis

          Nitricc –

          You may understand it if you listen to the interview above.
          Its so bizarre, even the Facebook joking trolls are silent about him.

          Worse the “new spirited parliamentarians” are silent about the deals nor the relationship. its not that I expect our one party parlama to question its party bosses, at the same time the executives, ( absurd right?) – but when you see “independent” activists struggle to shade light on Eritrean and Gulf issues on a youtube channel ?

    • Nitricc

      Hey Sara; it is good thing but it bothers me that no decedent. The Ethiopians are possessed with 100% BS. I mean, there is a single person say no the nominations? Say 80% say 90 % but 100%? not healthy nor real. However I like the move. women are less corrupted, women are more peaceful and women are more reliable.

    • Selam Sara,

      Fifty percent of the ethiopian cabinet made up of women, a phenomenal achievement in politics. What could change in ethiopia? Could peace, stability and progress be the things ethiopians could expect if women ruled ethiopia, because women are supposed to be less violent and less corrupt? Could women bring ethio-eritrean peace and cooperation where men have failed for so long, rather when men have created the problems? What if women ruled both countries? Could it be better for both countries?

      What does women in power mean for the world? Could they save the world from destruction, climate change, nuclear holocaust, etc, and create a world of peace and harmony, if they were in power? Could they see political power differently from men?

      The problem is how one can compare women like Thatcher, in relations to her neo-liberal and globalization program and the war she waged on the working class and the falkland war, and some women PMs who have found themselves in prison for corruption, with women like chancellor Merkel, who helped one million syrian refugees in 2015, despite the political cost?

      Should human beings entrust the world to women? Has the time come?

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate,
    You forgot to cc Debretsion

    • Nitricc

      Hi Brhan; there was a sugar factory being inaugurated in Ethiopia just last week and guess who was there to cut the ripen? Not Debrestion but the lion of Naqfa. hahahaha; I don’t think you get it, when he said it game over; that what exactly means. Don’t you see purposely ignoring TPLF thugs. The game plan is saliently to bring TPLF to its knee and it is working. If TPLF were smart, they could have been part of the change not retreating to Mekelle.

  • Ismail AA

    A very good morning fellow forumers,

    This open letter to Ethiopia’s government institutions or organs, and through the peace loving public in that country, is timely reminder. It’s to be recalled that Eritreans, privately and groups and organizations, have been making known their concerns and appeals since the pendulum began to swing in different direction after the ruling EPRDF installed Dr. Abij as Exeutive.

    However, so far there seems all calls and voices have been falling on deaf ears. The good Dr. PM has chosen to focus on what he can garner from the dictator for solving his own problems without caring for what his current action would produce in long term relations between the two nations.

    Of course what he has been doing have brought delight and elation from irredentists, chauvinistic jingoists and no war no peace fatigued suffering inhabitants on both sides of the borders. But, as the letter very well articulated, the Eritrean people would never allow fatigue with their hard won independence, sovereignty and aspiration to get rid of despotism and build a nation of normality with rule of law and personal freedom and dignity of its citizens. Our Ethiopian neighbors would good to the future of their peoples and the people of Eritrea if they would give credence to this fact.

    The dictator could be pampered and enabled at the expense of the people. He is there now and serve some purposes and concerns of Dr. Abij’s administration, for sure he will not there tomorrow. I wonder whether our Ethiopian neighbours do foresee the questions and challenges that eventuality would raise. Short term expediencies should overshadow the wisdom and forsight of serious politicians and policy makers.

    • Natom Habom

      SELAM AWATE
      it sound little begging ,that expose you have no support from Eritrean population
      so you are asking help to pressure Eritrea again and for the continuation of hostility
      but the problem is Ethiopia could not defeat Eritrea with all ngo organization and UN PRESSURE it didnt work ,they spend so much money the went brock ,their country was about to be dismember ,civil war was looming Eritrea had the upper hand ,only peace can save the country ,war is a disaster for both ,he made peace even if deny , the people of Eritrea welcomed peace by chanting ,dancing ,the same for issayas ,he negotiated between the rebel for peace
      ,then why in hell the government of Abiy will choose to renounce all this for you ??,
      as for the people ,do you represent Eritrean ??who are you then in the name of Eritrean ,
      you want to enjoy the western life while keeping our people in constant hostility
      for you Eritrean have to be a refugees and miserable like tplf wish
      and also your arrogance by saying the peace process can not be bidding if you opposition after all defamation ,vilification with fake news ,after supporting Ethiopian army assault ,and many many against your people and country are not at the table its mind boggling , no regret ,no apology ,no shame ,what do you see when you look into the mirror ,AN ANGEL ,I leave it to your conscious .
      well I dont think anyone can hijack this peace ,all of YOU GAMBLED like in a casino and like in casino you lost its fair game life goes on .

      • Ismail AA

        Selam fellow forumers,

        Can any one, please, help me understand what brother Natom Habom is saying? Or better: NH be kind enough to edit your comments so that I can try to respond to him. Thanks.

        • Lamek

          Here you go Ismail AA. This what NH is trying to say. When I made sense of it, he actually does have really strong opinions and I suspect that is why you were curious to understand him.

          SELAM AWATE:

          This letter sounds a little like begging. It exposes you that you, the opposition, have no support from the Eritrean people. So you are asking PMAA for help to pressure Eritrea again and for the continuation of hostility between the two countries.

          But the problem is Ethiopia could not defeat Eritrea with all the backing of the NGOs and UN PRESSURE. It didn’t work. They collectively spent so much money until they went broke. Ethiopia was about to be dismembered, civil war was looming, Eritrea had the upper hand. Only peace can save the country, Ethiopia, because war is a disaster for both. PMAA made peace. Even if you deny this, the people of Eritrea welcomed peace by chanting and dancing. The same for PIA, he negotiated between the Ethiopian rebels and the government for peace.

          Then, why in hell would the government of Abiy choose to renounce all this for you?

          As for the people, do you represent the Eritrean people? Who are you then to write a letter in the name of Eritrean people?

          You are doing this because you want to enjoy the western life while keeping our people in constant hostility. Your desire is for Eritreans to be refugees and miserable like TPLF’s wish and you also show your arrogance by saying the peace process cannot be binding if you, the opposition [after all the defamation, vilification with fake news, after supporting Ethiopian army’s assault against your people and country], are not at the table. It is mind boggling that you have no regret, no apology, and no shame. What do you see when you look at yourself in the mirror? AN ANGEL? I leave it to your consciousness.

          Well, I don’t think anyone can hijack this peace, all of YOU GAMBLED like in a casino and like in casino you lost. Its fair game, life goes on.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Lamek,
            Thanks for trying to edit NH post. Hope he, too, would thank you – if at all he would endorse you as his editor. Now, I know he meant to address the AT, and not me. He should wait if the AT would consider a response to his views.

          • Natom Habom

            selam lamek
            thank you very much for fixing my writing
            it s perfect god bless

      • Brhan

        Natom can you say the above in tigrinya or tigre or any Eritrean langauge so that we can understand you. Other wise you are not Natna

    • Erta

      [begin your comment with a salutation. It’s the rule here///moderator]

      The slogan in Eritrean side, either supporters or opostions of the current Eritrean government has been, “leave Eritrean affair to eritrean” whenever Ethiopia questions the authorities of the Eritrean government. The oppostions neither had the political structural organization nor had psychological readiness to challenge the current Eritrean government. In addition, the opposition looked Ethiopia’s military and political challenge against the Eritrean regime with suspicion in the past, believing any attempt against Eritrean regime a cover by ethiopian government to attack Eritrea. Now Ethiopia started working with Eritrea leaving Eritrean internal affair to eritrean.
      Eritrea at this junction, is on downward spiral, economically, politically and socially for the very reason that 390 people are leaving Eritrea each day, these people vacating Eritrean youth at their prime life. If Eritrean people are given the option today for referendum, overwhelming majorities vote in favor for it. This is not just because 390 people a day are leaving Eritrea but most Eritrean in the country were very joyful in their response to the peace agreement between the nations. International organizations and some states are pushing for some kind of integration between Ethiopia and Eritrea given the status quo. Most observers see Eritrea as empty land in 10 years given Eritrean migration to ethiopia, Eritrean are saying one people one nation by voting by their migration trend. The two countries leader see it, the international community confirming it. At this point Ethiopia has passed the hurdle of port issues and Ethiopia is position its self politically and economically to be a viable states in the region, but Eritrea is stuck and its people are becoming hopeless that requires very radical political and economic reform in eritrea.
      Eritrean are saying enough of separation of the two nations

      • Acria

        Selam Ertra,

        Practically your wordings are true; nevertheless, emotionally unacceptable to some, especially the Eritrean diaspora. The people back home are fed up and desperate. I have met many Eritreans from Zalambessa to Addis Ababa recently. They do not want to go back to Eritrea. All of them would like to go to Western countries. Majority of them would rather stay in Ethiopia as Ethiopians if given that option. Therefore, you are right about most Eritreans, at least in Ethiopia, to opt for unity or federation. I haven’t had a chance to interview enough Eritreans inside Eritrea.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Ertra,
        Please kindly be referred to my comment to our brother Acria. I just want you to know that I did not overlook you comments and by not offering respect by way of response. I thought that it would be simply be repetition of points I scribbled in my entry to Acria.

    • Acria

      Selam Haw Ismail AA,

      You stated, “the Eritrean people would never allow fatigue with their hard won independence, sovereignty and aspiration to get rid of despotism and build a nation of normality with rule of law and personal freedom and dignity of its citizens”. The question is when and how? Fatigue alias desperation seems to be our major predicament at this time. Everybody wants to leave Eritrea. Who will defend Eritrea then?

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Acria,

        Free people never allow fatigue and desperation to overtake their spirit to be free. History shows abundantly peoples as nations come to a crossroad in their existence that endures all odds they face where heroes emerged and becom casus beli for for rejuvination of the spirit of self defense. The odds we are facing at the present are not drearier than those we had faced in 1962. Don’t we witness the Palestinian teens, youth, prime aged and the old fighting for their freedom and dignity 70 years after they lost their freedom? By the way, your log in name reminds me Acria of the great Said Bashier and Haj Musa.

        Those people had taught us through their sacrifices to never give in to desperation. Tampering with Eritrea’s independence and sovereignty is messing with the tail of sleeping lion as Prof. Berekhet Habtesellassie had said he warned Emperor Haile Sellassie when he had been mulling to violate the status of Eritrea and annex it to his feudo-imperial ancien regime.