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Ethiopian PM Abiy Unscrambles The Algiers Agreement

The Algiers Agreement is a peace treaty, which came about after 29 months of bloodshed, displacement and negotiations between Eritrea and Ethiopia. Named after the city where it was signed, the Agreement was a culmination of several agreements—OAU’s Framework Agreement, Modalities for its Implementation–that the two parties inked while they were fighting. And part of the reason it took as long as it did (I would say the main reason) is because the Government of Ethiopia refused to have direct, face-to-face negotiations unless its preconditions were met. The first precondition was for Eritrea to withdraw from territories that Ethiopia would not name: its absurd position was “you know what they are, now pack and leave: then we will talk.” Since Ethiopia’s new Premiere has, in my view, completely unscrambled Ethiopia’s attitude to the Agreement, and since it has been so long (December 2000) that some may not have the proper context, it is useful to summarize what it says and try to explain what just happened and the scenarios going forward.

The Algiers Agreement Short

The Agreement is relatively short (only six pages) and it has five articles.

Article 1 says since you two have already signed a cessation of hostilities agreement six months ago, do not do anything to change that: don’t use force or the threat of force against each other. (Status: ignored by Eritrea and Ethiopia.)

Article 2 says comply with the Geneva Convention and, using the offices of ICRC, exchange prisoners of war and release, repatriate and return to their last place of residence the displaced civilians. (Status: we don’t know beyond what’s in the Claims Commission report)

Article 3 says “an independent, impartial body”, which will be appointed by the OAU (now AU), in consultation with the UN, Eritrea and Ethiopia, will conduct an investigation to determine the origins of the conflict. (Status: ignored)

Article 4 says a boundary commission (now known as Eritrea Ethiopia Boundary Commission or EEBC) will be set up at The Hague to render a decision in accordance with language the two parties agreed to in their previous accords (strictly on the basis of colonial treaties, applicable laws and without regard to what is “right” or “good”) and that this decision will be final and binding. (Status: concluded but rejected by Ethiopia)

Article 5 says a claims commission (now known as Eritrea Ethiopia Claims Commission or EECC) will be set up in The Hague to consider claims of both parties of the war damages the other party is alleged to have made and to render a decision (again without regard to what is “right or good”) which will also be final and binding. (Status: concluded, accepted but not implemented)

Since the 1998-2000 war between Eritrea and Ethiopia is defined as a border war (why a border dispute may degenerate into a shooting war is a completely different subject), then the heart of the Algiers Agreement is Article 4: the boundary commission. But it is not the entirety of it. (I will come back to that later.)

Hurry Up And Wait

There was supposed to be one building block agreement to the Framework Agreement and Modalities. And there was. It was called the Technical Arrangements. This was a sequence of events designed to temporarily undo Eritrea’s foray into Badme on May 6, 1998 and Ethiopia taking it back on February 6, 1999. Both parties agreed in advance that they will trust the judgment of the OAU and UN-provided experts on how the two parties should re-deploy their troops: an independent commission (whose decision would be binding but without prejudicing the final fate of the places the two parties are withdrawing from) would make its decision within three weeks of the date of the signing of the Technical Arrangement (August 31, 1999.) Eritrea instantly signed it. For seven months, the Government of Ethiopia (a) demanded changes to an agreement it had in advance agreed would be binding then (b) rejected it in March 2000; then (c) waged an offensive on May 12, 2000. It said 3 weeks is two long and then took 9 months to prepare for war and take back land it could have had without massive bloodshed and destruction.

The ostensible reason for its rejection was that its sole-demand—that status quo ante be restored—was not met and this was a matter of principle for the government. Keep in mind that Ethiopia was going through one of the worst famines at the time and when incredulous people asked Prime Minister Meles Zenawi why he was taking such an unwise decision, he got even more rigid: begging for aid should not preclude our right to fight. The real reason (explained in a statement of the Ethiopian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, then issued daily) was that the Government of Ethiopia’s priorities had changed: its elite had reached the conclusion that land won back by war has the added advantage of breaking the backbone of “Shaebia,”  (Eritrea’s ruling party) which it saw as the primary cause of Eritreans’ alleged superiority complex.

Hurry Up And Wait Even Longer

In 2002, four years after the spark of the conflict and two years after the guns were silent, the Eritrea-Ethiopia Boundary Commission (EEBC) issued its ruling on delimiting their common border. Given its history of rejecting an agreement it had agreed in advance would be binding, it shouldn’t have been surprising that with all its “clever” conditions—here’s a 5 point plan, here’s a 90% plan–the Government of Ethiopia would be rejecting it. But it still was. After all, Ethiopia is a big country with aspirations for regional and continental leadership: its capital hosts the AU and UNECA; its head of government chairs regional organizations and its military is in peacekeeping missions all over Africa. And how can one be a leader if people are unable to rely on his or her promises?

But there was a method to the madness. The Ethiopian Government must have calculated that the Government of Eritrea is so detested around the continent and rest of the world that those who hear the Government of Ethiopia has reneged on a deal with the Government of Eritrea would say, “it couldn’t have happened to a worse government.” And, astonishingly, the Government of Eritrea went on to live up to this stereotype–Somalia, Djibouti, sanctions, you know the rest–and helped the Government of Ethiopia in adding color to the outline.

When Ethiopia unwisely refused to have face-to-face discussions in 1998-2000 and insisting on preconditions, at least it was having proxy-talks. In addition to Eritrea’s political dynamic, where President Isaias Afwerki decided that Party Apparatchik Yemane Gebreab (ruling party Political Director) is more senior than Foreign Minister Haile “Derue” Woldensae (in prison since 2001) and that the latter, to the amazement of the diplomats, should and would consult with the former before agreeing to anything, these proxy meetings were prone to delays. But at least they were meeting. When Ethiopia refused to accept the ruling of the boundary commission unconditionally, the Government of Eritrea settled on a strategy of waiting out the collapse of the Ethiopian Government combined with trying to shame the UNSC into shouldering its guarantee/witness role. This was an uphill battle given the importance of Ethiopia to UNSC, but it may have had a fighting chance if it was coupled with a charm offensive, not the stink bombs the Eritrean government offered in Somalia and Djibouti.

So what would happen if the government didn’t collapse and the international community didn’t care about the Algiers Agreement so long as there was no shooting war? There was never a Plan B. Plan B was Plan A: Ethiopia will unconditionally comply with the ruling of the EEBC. And if it doesn’t? Well, then, Ethiopia will unconditionally comply with the ruling of EEBC. Two years became five; five years became ten; ten became sixteen and the Government of Eritrea told us that because we are in a state of war, then hundreds of thousands of Eritreans have to be mobilized indefinitely and the constitution has to be suspended indefinitely. Because Plan B was Plan A, no new facts, no catastrophe could change the strategy. According to the UNHCR, Eritrea has, as of last year, 523,701 refugees and asylum-seekers with pending cases all over the world. This is, according to the Government of Eritrea’s census of resident Eritreans of 3.65 million, 14% of our population. Even if you assume half of the refugees and asylum seekers claiming to be Eritreans are Ethiopians (a favorite talking point of the government), that is still 7%: one of the highest for a country not in a shooting war. So, the question is, at what point would the Government of Eritrea say, “time to change a losing strategy.” At 20% exiled? 30%? 50%? There was no Plan B.

Government of Ethiopia Changes A Losing Strategy

In one of the unlikeliest plot twists, a guy that most of us (including, I am guessing, most Ethiopians) had never heard of this time last year, is now the Prime Minister of Ethiopia. PM Abiye Ahmed is easy to ridicule because he exhibits all the tics of New Agers: everything is divine, and no cliche left behind. But, in the last two months since he came to power, he has checked off all the boxes in the demand list of the positive-change-seekers: freed political prisoners by the thousands (including a man sentenced to death in absentia), lifted the state of emergency, given political space to opponents, hang lots of ribbons on toxic politicians (his way of forcing them to retire), and, last week, completely redefined his government’s position on the Algiers Agreement.

Recall that the Algiers Agreement is a treaty between the Government of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia and the Government of the State of Eritrea.” And while his government is obligated to the international treaty, it’s not obligated to the previous government’s interpretation of it. And, if his words are to be believed—and so far, he has, unlike his predecessors, a good record of doing exactly what he said he would do—our long nightmare may be over. His words, expressed in the statement of the ruling party’s executive committee and in an address he gave an-anti corruption assembly, are summarized as follows:

1. Efforts made in the past 20 years to restore the brotherly relations of the two people have been unsuccessful;
2. Therefore, a different position and approach is necessary to restore real peace between the two countries. The two countries cannot disregard the choices and wishes of their people;
3.Ego-driven rivalry serves the interest of neither people. Moreover, the lasting solution to the political crisis and instability in the horn of Africa is a healthy relation between Ethiopia and Eritrea, the lack of which made the two countries and the region miss big opportunities;
4.In the interest of the peoples of both countries, who are bonded not only by mutual interest but also related by blood, the Government of Ethiopia has decided to fully accept the Algiers treaty and the rulings of the border commission and to implement it with conviction and without hesitance;
5. Nations spend more time and energy preparing for war and the state of readiness Eritrea and Ethiopia are in is psychologically exhausting and draining to soldiers;
6. Ethiopia is the IGAD chair and owes Africa peace;
7. I call on the Eritrean government to accept our call for peace without hesitance and to work for the restoration of the relation of the two peoples and its sustainability.

Unlike with previous Ethiopian governments, nowhere in the speech is there conditionality and there is a committment to fully accept the Algiers treaty and the rulings of the border commission.

Preparing for All Scenarios

Since the Prime Minister explained his government’s position as in the best interest of Ethiopia and Africa, the best case scenario is that he picks up exactly where we left off in late 2007 when the Eritrea Ethiopia Boundary Commission virtually demarcated the border and told the world: we are dissolved, but this is the path forward. He can do that by writing a letter to the UN Secretary General. What follows after that is purely technical (on paper) and very impactful (in real life.) Of course, all the markers along the entire 1,033 kilometers of their common border will do is bring finality to the geographic map of Eritrea and Ethiopia; nothing will stop either country from having soldiers and armaments (tanks, artilleries) amassed on either side of the marker. In other words, demarcation alone doesn’t change the peace dynamic.

The other scenario is where the Prime Minister, who didn’t just mention the Eritrea Ethiopia Border Commission but the Algiers Agreement as well—(“fully accepts the Algiers Agreement and the ruling of the boundary commission”)– wants implementation of all the articles of the Agreement beginning with Article 1 (armed Ethiopian groups housed in Eritrea, and armed Eritrean groups housed in Ethiopia whose declared goal is to wage a war of resistance against their governments) and ending with Article 4 (finality to the Claims Commission damages award.)

We do not know which path he will take, or anything in between. The point is that it is a political issue as Ethiopia, having removed the albatross of rejecting EEBC–has given itself leverage to demand “full implementation of not just EEBC but the Algiers Agreement.” If it does, and the Algiers Agreement allows it to, dialogue (proxy or direct) is mandatory.

What needs to happen is to restore something that has been lost—confidence—and as the party which was largely to blame for that (by unilaterally abdicating its responsibility to abide by the final nature of the ruling and by rejecting the judgment of a body it co-established ), the Government of Ethiopia has to take the first step, which is the step to level zero: where we were in 2002: full acceptance. It has. The next step is to take us to 2007: accept virtual demarcation in writing because the judges (whom both parties chose as experts) said it is valid. In between, the Government of Eritrea—which used to reply to every statement, every utterance made by previous Ethiopian Prime Ministers—this is also a form of dialogue, primitive, but still dialogue–has to reciprocate with a statement. The minute Eritreans hear the word “dialogue”, they interpret it as “renegotiation” but it need not be. A dialogue is a discussion, and a once-smitten party can say, “sure, but only on the terms of its implementation”, particularly since the Prime Minister, for his own reasons, is saying he wants to.

This takes us to the position of the party that formed the core of the previous government, TPLF, the ruling party of the state bordering Eritrea, Tigray, and where most of the contested and populated land is located. It issued a confusing statement and, when Voice of America (Tigrinya) interviewed a spokesperson, he was even more confusing. He started out well enough: the TPLF does not have a statement to make because this concerns two countries and the EPRDF speaks for the Federal Government. He should have stopped there. But then when he was asked, “then why did you issue a statement?” he replied, “to clarify the confusion.” “And what is the confusion.” The confusion is that there is claim that we will withdraw from territories. “But you will withdraw from territories including Badme.” But the Federal Government did not say that and our statement is consistent with that of the Federal Government. “So you are saying you won’t withdraw from Badme?” “Yes, there is no withdrawal and the EPRDF statement didn’t call for one…”

The issue here is that the TPLF had been misleading its constituency, the people of Tigray, for a decade and half, and now that the Prime Minister of the Federal Government has said that he will abide fully with EEBC, i.e., withdraw from territories awarded to Eritrea; i.e. including Badme, it is caught in a trap and trying to stall. And my money is on this: the PM is going to take measures that will keep the TPLF too busy dealing with its kilil issues to bother him at the Federal level. And for that to happen, he needs the support of the international community (he has it); the loyalty of the armed forces and national security (he has taken fast steps); the co-operation of regional powers (multiple trips to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and getting his citizens released from their prisons suggests he is making progress) and the sanity of the Government of Eritrea (jury is still out, but the prognosis is never good.) Of course, the Prime Minister can also unilaterally withdraw his soldiers and armaments, let Eritrea deal with the European cartographers in demarcating the border and wait for his equivalent–a post Ghedli leader– to emerge in Eritrea and deal with her. For a guy so easy to lampoon, Prime Minister Abiye may yet become one of the most consequential leaders Ethiopia produced.

 

About Salyounis

Saleh Younis (SAAY) has been writing about Eritrea since 1994 when he published "Eritrean Exponent", a quarterly print journal. His writing has been published in several media outlets including Dehai, Eritrean Studies Review, Visafric, Asmarino and, of course, Awate where his column has appeared since the launch of the website in 2000. Focusing on political, economic, educational policies, he approaches his writing from the perspective of the individual citizens' civil liberties and how collectivist governments and overbearing organizations trample all over it in pursuit of their interests. SAAY is the president and CEO of a college with a focus in sound arts and video games and his writing often veers to music critique. He has an MBA from Golden Gate University and a BA from St Mary's College.

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  • Selam Amde,

    Fortunately, there are times when you ignore and times when you pay attention, as Abi says. There are scientists who say, what would have become of human beings if their brain did not have the power to ignore and forget. I am implementing this tactic, and i think it works. Now, to the serious thing:

    Jawar Mohammed on AS in his article “Managing transition in ethiopia: Averting a looming danger” says that the political situation in ethiopia is such that she has three choices,
    a) PM Abiy returns to authoritarian rule,
    b) He watches as the situation spiral out of control, and risks getting toppled by the hardliners,
    c) He fast-tracks transition to democracy and saves the day.

    Jawar laments the deteriorating security situation, especially in Oromia, with the killing of the CEO, armed robbery and killing of civilians, and day-time armed bank-robber, etc.

    I think that the way pm Abiy put his priorities is wrong. Internal policy with the aim to bring peace, security and cope with the economy, and set them on firm foundations before anything else should have been his first priority. Giving priority to foreign policy at this stage and so early has more or less opened the pandora’s box, and here is where he is required to show leadership by appease the people of ethiopia, that he is ready to correct his policy accordingly and in line with the wish of the people of ethiopia, and nobody else’s. There are internal and external factors who want him to fail, and that would be disastrous for ethiopia.

    • Amde

      Selam Horizon,

      The Jawar recommendation sounded a bit self-serving to me. How does one organize elections etc if as he claims the situation is deteriorating? Plus, are things really spinning out of control, or are they being spun out of control?

      I think there is now a government with legitimacy at the Federal/National level (even if short term). What is the point of rushing to replace it? There are no insurgencies or wars, the usual indicators of political system failure at the national levels.

      The “problems” appear to be at the local levels, which local elections won’t solve. Probably more of police and community leader work.

      If you ask me, what is required would be something like what Gen. Tsadqan recommended.
      – Have a council composed of all the major opposition.
      – Their number one job is review the laws and processes, make recommendations, and work on preparations for the elections in 2020.
      – Their number two role would be to identify constitutional issues and recommendations to improve the system. (Land, internal borders, basis for federation, etc…) They wont resolve anything but perhaps there would be a list around which something like a constitutional convention could meet.
      – Their number three role would be to
      provide advice and input to the executive on policy, administrative matters.

      If EPRDF is smart they can use the good ideas generated while they still hold executive power.

      I agree with you on the timing of the whole Badme thing and foreign affairs. I still bet that was imposed on him from outside (rather than him wanting to be popular on the world stage).

      Amde

      • Kbrom

        Dear Amde and Horizon

        Amde, as always great analysis. Can I ask more clarification on your recommendation, if you will, re:
        ‘Have a council composed of all the major opposition.
        – Their number one job is review the laws and processes, make recommendations, and work on preparations for the elections in 2020.
        – Their number two role would be to identify constitutional issues and recommendations to improve the system’.

        The discussion that I am looking for is on by who, how, and to what end result.

        As far as many are concerned, and I think PMAA himself too, he is at the helm in the name of EPRDF, and that his changes are not intended to be as equal as a new EPRDF – alien independent system.

        Saay always tells me that I am pessimistic when it comes to PMAA, but
        I say you can not judge a systems success, failure or future in 80 days, especially in a complex country like Ethiopia with no institutional capacity, research and strategic studies analysis (that is why we say (ጻድቃን እንዲህ ኣለ ጀዋር ይህን ደገመ) that enables you to see the trajectory. With very limited knowledge I have, what I can see is for PMAA things are not as simple as people might think. As you know let alone in a complex state level, change is painful even in corporate level. Neuroscientists tell us that human brains are hard wired to resist change; change is doomed to fail if the resistance is mainly from the main stakeholders. Change is also dangerous if one person (perceived or real) starts to take all the credit, as each credit will produce another tough resistance.

        I think in the near very future the hardliners will start to heat back. The problem with EPRDF is the brutal nature of its ጥልቅ ግምገማ። There is also possibility of scenarios of marriage of convenience among members of EPRDF Council to call extra regular meeting to forge resistance and make ጥልቅ ህየሳ orchestrated for some sort of common strategic purpose against PMAA.

        I think I did not articulate it well but what I am trying to say is what is happening now in Ethiopia is not a straight forward line which will go as it is for the next coming months, we might see twists and surprises soon because a) መንገዱን ጨርቅ ኣደለም as people might think, b) the points General Tsadkan raised are not for a leader who came from the same EPRDF; they might happen but if/when new government comes after the demise/split (or both) of EPRDF.

        Hyperbolic?

        • Amde

          Selam Gash Kibrom,

          I am always interested in your input thank you sir.

          I see both the Jawar and Gen. Tsadqan proposals as trying to address the issue of legitimacy once the last election’s meto-be-meto fiasco became apparent. Jawar thinks we should speed up new elections (interestingly, Daniel Berhane – a quasi TPLF blogger journalist asked for a snap election in a moment of panic sometime last week), Tsadqan is recommending something that blends continuity and change.

          Tsadqan has been ridiculed and made a bete-noire by Tigrayans for recommending something that they a know means a dissolution of TPLF’s power, but I think he is wise and prescient enough to know they are better off having a manged transition to a future where they don’t have as much power but at least retain some leverage. At least that is how i understand it. His recommendation was last year though, and Jawar’s is from a couple of days ago, so events might make one more relevant than the other.

          PMAA is supposedly the chairman of an EPRDF that has charted a path for change. So he is either leading a change they agreed on as a front, or he is a maverick doing his own thing. If he was a maverick, then (if Andargachew Tsige is to be believed) EPRDF had a golden opportunity to unseat him when he supposedly threatened to resign unless Andargachew Tsige was released.
          But they didn’t, which leads me to believe EPRDF is fundamentally broken, and there is scramble afoot now to retain as much power and influence as possible and to position as optimally as possible for whatever is coming.

          So it is not unreasonable to assume then that even EPRDF knows change is inevitable and is thus committed/resigned to it. Even knowing the neurological wiring for “loss aversion” you mentioned.

          I keep saying their best bet is to split along ideological lines. The country needs strong institutional voices to articulate pro-poor and pro-minority right positions on a permanent basis, without being saddled with the stain of the public’s interpretation of what has become of the EPRDF brand. One can see already the outlines of a “Nationalist” party anchored in the demographics of the Oromo and Amara population, and pushing pro-capitalist lines, being formed around the current OPDO and becoming the main inheritor of the EPRDF. It is fair to have such a national party, but it is also important to have a national party that primarily advocates for the poor and the other ethnic minorities. I see both as natural successors of the EPRDF, and healthy competition between them would be good for the country.

          I laughed a little bit at your “I think in the near very future the hardliners will start to heat back.”, because it appears we are right now living in the “very near future” you have been warning about. There is a campaign right now I think. PMAA is supposedly complaining about economic sabotage ( a la Egypt), and there are ethnic clashes.

          The mechanics of the council, its membership and so forth would be controversial for sure. Tsadqan says it would be under the President’s office. So – not quite executive, but something attached to a constitutional office. The goal is to make the 2020 elections as fair and open as possible. But more importantly, it would provide people a believable political future to work towards.

          I think with G7 leader and OLF ex-leaders freed, the membership can be as easy as starting off with the current legal opposition, and going back to the 2005 election. People might quibble on the margins, but I would say anybody who has followed Ethio politics can draw up a list of 5 to 15 organizations and people that will likely comprise 80% of its eventual composition.

          Nothing would be “binding” and like the USSupreme Court decision, majority and minority positions can be articulated and brought to the public if they cannot reach consensus.

          The problem always becomes the “What is in it for me?” view of whoever would be potentially on the losing side. That seems to be solved by events on the ground very quickly.

          Would be interested to hear your’s and others’ take.

          Amde

          • Kbrom

            Amde

            Superb or as we call it in the Baduma side of the fence እጹበ ድንቅ. I think we stole it from you dear brothers in Ethiopia.

            I have three or more points to discuss, however I would love to hear others’ take first so we can have more input and diversified perspectives.

          • Kbrom

            Amde

            Re we stole it, I mean the word እጹበ ድንቅ not the town of Baduma. Just wanted to clarify because in this era of misinterpretation one needs to be careful, especially if he/she is writing in the environs of TPLF.

          • Amde

            Kibrom….

            Haha…. very funny..

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Horizon,

      Two decisions of PMAA and his administration are consequential to your volatile Ethiopian politics. In a volatile atmosphere you don’t take radical changes, because it backfire at you. Here some of the wrong of his decisions:

      (a) He prematurely lifted the emergency decree. Now it will flare demonstrations all over Ethiopia. He should wait until the stability and security of the country maintained.

      (b) The blanket amnesty to political activists and criminal individuals is wrong. He should limit his amnesty to political activists. only. To give pardon to criminals is a bad precedence to the Ethiopian laws and rule of law. It will only encourage for criminal acts.

      Now the PM has entered to uncharted territory. The options he has now is to either maintain the stability and security by reinstating back the emergency or letting the country in to chaos to continue with this uncontrolled democracy. It is big decision waiting in front of him. This is the test of wisdom to unexperienced leader in the choices of decision he will make. Wish him luck.

      • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

        All the points you brought are very true indeed. Inexperience, the impulsiveness of young age, the wrong advisers and as Amde said outside pressure, may all have played a role.

        The fact that the state of emergency had better been left in place for some time yet is right, but if you remember, one of the criteria the diaspora presented to him if he is a reformist or not, was to lift the state of emergency as soon as possible. Therefore, he might have been influenced by the push from the outside. Even the USA government, the EU and the UN were for the removal of the state of emergency.

        I was among those who said right from the beginning that pardoning criminals was a grave mistake. In the political turbulence some people may have exploited the situation by giving him an ill-conceived advice, without that being an excuse or to relieve him from the responsibility.

        As you can see the whole nation seems in upheaval for one untimely decision, and we do not know where that would take the nation. Ethiopia is in a cycle of crisis – calm – crisis again, for the last 2-3 yrs, and radical and sensitive changes should take place when everything is stable and calm. Some are already exploiting the badme decision, and the good actions he took on other issues will be forgotten soon unless he overcomes the present situation.

        Maybe, it look like that i am opposed to a solution. The fact is that i, like Amde, am saying that he should stabilize the country first, bring order, and make the immediate stakeholders part of the solution, instead of taking decision from an office in addis, if he wants to bring real peace to the region. If a demonstration takes in addis as well, it shows that the pm’s decision has affected the whole nation, and he is forced to backtrack at least for the time being to bring calm and stability, and he should try to tackle the issue at a later date.

        • Amde

          Selam Horizon, Amanuel

          Objectively speaking, are we more or less peaceful than a year ago? Six months ago? Ninety days ago?

          I think we are. Sure there are problems.

          The Sidama request for a killil of their own with Hawass as a capital has been around forever. That put them at odds with the other groups.

          The Oromo-Somali issue predates Abiy, and was a hot topic even during the SOE. The same with the Oromo/Gedeo clashes.

          Amara displacements are almost a feature of the EPRDF system.

          There is a danger the qerro becomes an uncontrolled mob. But now it is just a mob, not a political sabotage tool.

          Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Amde & Horizon,

            The “Ethiopian Observer” has reported that “There have been three days of unrest in Hawassa in southern Ethiopia with at least one fatality and many injured after Sidama protesters’ demand for their own regional state.” Ethiopians are fighting for political power than to assure and maintain stability of their nation. They need a decisive leader like PMMZ that focus on stability and economic development of the nation. They are dragging the nation back after the enormous success in the last decades.

          • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            I have a different opinion on this. What is to be a decisive leader? If it is to use brute force, it is really easy. PMHD could have been a decisive leader and pm Abiy could be decisive now. The important point is to convince and persuade people to respect the law and function in a peaceful manner without resorting to violence. The state of course will always be there to use reasonable deterrent force as the last resort, because excessive force that had been used upto now brought more violence and instability, and did not cow citizens into submission.

            I believe that pm Abiy has been persuasive upto now, and the use of force will not be his first option, whenever citizens demand what the government does not like to hear.

          • Selam Amde,

            From the last tplf cc meeting, one gets the impression that there is a feeling of victimhood on the part of tplf, and it says that there are forces from inside and outside the country, who want to weaken the tigray people and tplf, and calls for people to fight these forces. No detail is given from what i know, but it gives the sense that fingers are pointed in all directions. Tplf may not feel at ease within the eprdf anymore, and it sees enemies whichever direction it turns.

            The oromo-somali problem has always been there, i think from the time they came to understand that they are oromos and somalis, two different entities (ethnic groups).

            The southern nations and nationalities, a melting pot of different language, cultures and traditions, is not an easy thing to handle. One scenario (could be wrong), that could appease the stakeholders, may be percentage allocation for each group in the regional parliament and government, etc.

            Once upon a time, the contradiction was mainly between the ethiopian people and the ethiopian government. Today, nobody really knows who is against whom, and unfortunately we have an uneasy peace.

  • Shalom

    Dear Awtes
    >
    There is a saying in Tigrigna that goes like this
    >
    “Te Retiena Ke Yiblus , Yi Gibaey Yiblu ……….”
    >
    though I am not sure how much is your knowledge
    and level of our Tigrigna language ?

  • Amde

    Selam Awate Editors.

    I hate to bring this issue to you.

    But this post from Teodros Adem is beyond the pale. Is it not enough that he insults everyone but now he has to insult my parents whom he does not know. I applaud your patience, and your bending over backwards to accommodate every point of view imaginable. But I cannot in good conscience tolerate this, and I respectfully ask your response in this matter.

    Sincerely,

    Amde

    “Teodros Alem Amde • 30 minutes ago
    Selam amde
    Sunday i think there will be demonstrations in mekele so r u gonna say irob kilili is in tigrai, mekele is the capital?i wonder what kind of parents raised u guys and makes u to reason like this? for real. If u know what i mean.”

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam amde
      Am sorry u fell that way. I didn’t insult u or ur parents. I was just wondering and wanna know how u guys end up to reason out the way u do. Apologise sir.

      • Amde

        Teodros,

        Your apology is NOT ACCEPTED.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam amde
          I thought we r same neighbor . take it easy. But for real, what u gonna say when mekeleians come out on Sunday for the demonstration? R u gonna use the same logic, it’s about people? Am curious, that is all. My bro from addis french.

          • Mez

            Dear Teodros,

            1) Not only in Tigray; from the sporadic talks, I am thinking there may be even some demonstrations in Addis and other cities too ( not accepting the Algiers agreement),
            2) if they really come out and do it, we have to see their rational–to understand their perspective.
            Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hey MEZ; no body gives a flying hoot about badime except the Tigryans. right now what it matters for Ethiopians is protecting PMAA from the TPLF. TPLF will do everything to sabotage and eliminate PMAA. TPLF already have said that ” 4killo is used to blood-shade.”

          • Mez

            Dear Nitricc,

            1) it is not as simple as you assume regarding the psychology on Badme,
            2) TPLF is part of the PM-AAA government,
            3) PM-AAA is the ideal product of TPLF, so don’t get panicked.

            Thanks

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mez
            U r right tplf(it’s constituency tigrai 5 % of ethiopian population) is still part of pm AAA gov.
            But u not right pm AAA is the product of tplf.
            pm AAA is a product of his family, society, opdo and ethiopia.

          • Mez

            Dear Teodros how good are you with statidtics?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mez
            I just _ welkyet and i heard there is a complain in azebo raya as u call it.

          • Nitricc

            Hey MEZ; why would I panic? lol NO, I don’t give a flying hoot. I just want Eritrea to be free of Ethiopian cloud of war so, Eritrea can go about her way. Now I am hearing that the UAE high official is in Addis and there is a plan for him to visit badime. Is it true? if it is true, then, the Eritrean slince is explained.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            he donated 3 billion dollars for pm AAA gov of ethiopia, i think the 2 billion is gonna be used for resettlement and relocate the army and the affected people by the eebc decision.

          • Mez

            Dear Nitricc,
            You confuse me General. Very often what you say is not what you want, what you meant is not what you said. At the end i am clueless how to talk to you.

            Please help.

          • Mez

            Good Day Nitricc,

            You are sweet & interesting: “.. UAE … and there is a plan for him to visit badime. Is it true? …”

            If what you said IS true, then this can only happen with an approval of PIA, and a grand PEACE plan to follow.

            Very positive; my first feeling.

            Thanks as usual

          • Now inc.

            Mez,
            I consider my self a patriotic Eritrean. I really do. But when I hear Badme residents saying that they’ve been there for 40 yrs, some say they were born and raised there and know no other place etc…we can’t just ignore that. They’re not lying. On the other hand, I haven’t heard any claims from Eritrean residents in the area – not to confuse from the loud-mouthed PFDJ and supporters.

            One of the convincing things Badme residents say was that they know the place very well, Eritreans in the surrounding area know the place very well and if both sides (Eritrean and Ethiopian residents of the areas) were given the chance to settle, they would’ve done it quickly and peacefully because everyone in the surrounding area knows what belongs to which country. That’s what they say and I am totally convinced of that.
            We are now stuck in a bad situation because of the complications of the EEBC ruling.

          • Alex

            Hi Now Inc,
            You know most of the residents of Badme are moved by TPLF after 2002. If you listen to the interview in VOA by ambassador andebrhan welde giorgis who knows the area very well stated majority of Eritrean who use to reside in badme are waiting for the Ethiopian military to leave so they can go back to their birth place badme.

          • Hope

            Now Inc:

            U said;

            “But when I hear Badme residents saying that they’ve been there for 40 yrs, some say they were born and raised there and know no other place etc…we can’t just ignore that. They’re not lying. On the other hand, I haven’t heard any claims from Eritrean residents in the area – not to confuse from the loud-mouthed PFDJ and supporters.

            :

            Few facts:

            -The claim that Tigreyans have lived there for 40 yrs is false

            -Eritreans .who lived there for a century were deported bare handed and bare feet and replaced by Tigreyans for obvious reasons to make a case at the Court

            -Baduma used to be under the ELF

            -Consider the more than 80,000 Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eri origin, who didn’t have/know any other country but Ethiopia-

            -There are also Eritreans, who genuinely were born and grew up in the border area claimed falsely by Ethiopia and awarded to Ethiopia-as confirmed by Mesfin Hagos.

            If your logic or argument is as to why those Eritreans are NOT bluffing and protesting “fakely” like the Tigreyans,it is simply coz Eritreans are peace-loving and law abiding Citizens.

            Do you think what Tigreyans are protesting is genuine?

            I thought it was the same Tigreyans all over the world in general and in Tigray in particular requesting the peaceful “hand over” of Baduma to Eritrea for a peaceful co-existence as confirmed by their nonstop meeting and declaration??

            Well,do you beleive we Eritreans are sleeping happily for giving up the Hannish Kebir islands or our fertile Zalambesa and Tserona lands…including parts of Burrie?

            If we gave up what legally and historically belongs to us including the Hannish Kebir and some fertile Lands to Ethiopia simply coz they claimed them falsely but the Court awarded them, then why cant we get back what truly, legally and historically belong to us and why cant the Ethiopians reciprocate the same–where they are have legal and historical OBLIGATION to do so?

            You declared confidently without enoughknowledge and Evidence bysaying:

            “But when I hear Badme residents saying that they’ve been there for 40 yrs, some say they were born and raised there and know no other place etc…we can’t just ignore that. They’re not lying. On the other hand, I haven’t heard any claims from Eritrean residents in the area – not to confuse from the loud-mouthed PFDJ and supporters.”

            You smell like Hayat and Aman Hidrat rather than a real Patriotic Eritrean when U said:” We should listen to the people”.

          • Hope

            Correction :
            Mesfin Hagos Should read as” Sium Mesfin”.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Amde; i think you are over reacting. people make a mistake and once they realize their mistake, the offer their apology. i mean, the diarrhea mouth Semere Andom, repeatedly insulted my parents and leveled me as a grotto child. the truth is he the one who came up with Canadian welfare and the big freaking loser. it is wrong of you to demand for teddy to be banned. I reject that call. besides he apologized what do you want him to do. we lost Blink in a very shady way now you are calling for teddy to go away. I disagree with your intentions. hack, this open forum and people should have the right to say what is in their mind. If awate-team act on this one, I disagree and i will question awate-team’s intention. You want democracy? democracy is painful something we all need deal with. Amde, take it easy and don’t take things personally. once people apologizes, the best things to do move on, as such i want awate-team to do the same thing.

          • Amde

            Selam Nitricc,

            Who has Teodros not insulted and not apologized to on this forum? His apologies are completely meaningless. He might as well save himself the effort and begin and end every post with “FU – I’m Sorry – nah just kidding am gonna say FU in the next post”.

            In any case, it is immaterial. That is how I feel about it. I guess everybody has a line and I guess I found this to be a line for me.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hey Amde, all i am saying is let it go. you know how much this form loves you and respect you. what is one person view point? you are loved and respect on this forum. let it go and don’t take it personally, besides what is said is just teddy’s take. you know. be cool.

          • Amde

            Selam Nitricc,

            I thank you and appreciate for your input, and honestly I think it is funny how Teodros found the General to be his number one amalaj for his foul mouthedness.

            But it is a no for me.

            To me what makes Awate.com such a great place is the civility the moderators work so hard to maintain. And that attracts great minds to come and discuss and opine,

            Personally, I am very much aware my opinions are those of a random anonymous personality who is not really an expert in any of the things that are most discussed here. So, any insults at me personally I don’t really care – it would be the opinions of the random anonymous personality they are upset about.

            But this one is a slippery slope. If him insulting my parents is OK, then tomorrow it will be somebody’s wife or children. There is no difference. That is how I see it. If that is considered an acceptable slippery slope, then that’s a different matter. But I don’t think it should be acceptable.

            Thank you,

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Dear Amde; if i can stay and endure such abuse on this forum, as much as i am, You know i am hated and ridiculed but i think you can endure few attacks from few people and you are fine. you know what i mean. At the end of the day we are all are connected to the circle of life. Thank you sir! it is all good.

          • Amde

            Selam Nitricc,

            I don’t care about me getting abused although even the there should be civility as much as possible. I choose to come on the site, and interact.

            But I do not believe abusing family members should be tolerated.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            hi Amde; you said “but I do not believe abusing family members should be tolerated.”
            Sir, i agree! but when Semere Andom attacked my parents Awate-team was silent and complicite. i am just saying telling the truth.

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            Your defense of “democracy and rights” is admirable. But just like there are rules that govern the application and practices of democracy, we have set rules that govern how we interact with each other in this forum. No lawlessness is tolerated. However, that doesn’t mean we have 24/7 babysitters assigned to monitor violations here. Members should make sure they abide by the posting guidelines. That simple. And violators will be warned and if they persist, their accounts will be banned.

        • Kim Hanna

          Amde,

          I second you.

          This is not the first or second time. In fact, several days ago, Mods have deleted a vulgar filthy comments from just few minutes after he posted it. He thought that was his parting vulgar insult.

          Mr. K.H

    • Mez

      Dear Amde,

      Getting “ridiculed & lampooned” is part of the game of daily real life routine.

      Take it easy man.

      Thanks

  • Nitricc

    Hi George; you said ” I have a feeling you know very little about Eritrea or Eritreans.” hahahahahah what took you so-long man? Semere didn’t read aiga, his family members called him from Adi-Grat and informed him in real time. hahahah. Be nice to him, he is sleepless due to the current events in TPLF land.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam George,

    He is an Eritrean like you, who is concerned about the fate our nation and our people. Because he has different view than yours, do not assume that he is an Ethiopian. Characterization by assumptions in a debate on big issues that matters to our nation is not healthy. You are capable to debate intellectually on the interest of our nation and how we can extract ourselves from the dilemma we are in. You can attack ideas and position you don’t like and not the the person he espoused it. That way we can make a civilized debate. Attacking to our despot is not attacking to you, for I assume you are speaking your personal view. Take it as an advice from your older brother.

  • Paulos

    Selam Awatistas,

    Is it just me or everyone has that feeling where Eri-TV will announce that “ክቡር ፕረዚደንት ኢሳያስ ኣፍወርቂ ኣብዚ ቀረባ ማዓልታት ምስ ማዕከን ዜና ሰፊሕ ቃለ መሕተት ከምዘካይድ ክንሕብረኩም ንፈቱ.”

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam All
    Eid Mubarak .

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    Aiga Forum is reporting that the residents of Adi Grat demonstrated to oppose the implementation of the agreement on Badme. Badme is on the other side of Eritrea and how this affects Adi Grat is unclear.
    Could this be the half hearted acceptance of AA’s intentions by TPLF, AKA:we will stand with our people…
    There is a change in Ethiopia and there is no going back, if someone/group want to go back, it will be chaos.
    But Eri is an other story, at home, it governed by the laws of North Korea.
    The new intention to solve the stalemate has not motivated Eritreans, unlike the seismic movements that started by unwitting veggie vendor in Tunisa and became the A. spring, the energy in Ethiopia, the new blood, the rejuvenation of the power of the people in Ethiopia do not seem to have inspired Eritreans to make demands to their government, demands that they are duly deserving.
    The supporters, like usual they are waiting for the whispers of PFDJ demons in their souls whispers and there is no hope from them, darkness always follows you when you walk in PFDJ tunnel The Medrkeh, according to the comment cousin Hope posted by my friend Semere T. H. they are for reforming PFDJ. Reforming is fine, will work for Eritrea, but it is impossible to reform a criminal without the soul searching, the remorse, the genuine apology. Medrekh is talking about sovereigny and PFDJ are our brothers, they maybe our blood brothers and we may hold the same inalienable citizenship, but the Eritrean people have learned how your own brothers can work to annihilate you
    The opposition: well, the Ethiopia going, TPLF tank riding, Jihaddist opposition, they have no backup plans, they could not even save their people from the Rashaida organ traffickers in Sudan, where they could be embraced and protected by the Eritreans refuges.
    Did you ask me about the opposition; which one?, those who could not even agree on Hamed I. Awate, those who are alwasy given a golden opportunity, not by God, or by international community, not by Ethiopia,but by PFDJ who dares them. You better pray to saidna (saint) Awate

    • Paulos

      Selam Semerile,

      The cruel man is silently saying that, I don’t see the ball in my court when the whole world is murmuring about it. Here is the deal though: With in the last decade and some changes, the cravings of the PFDJ gangs was to see the Weyanes fall apart and when the Ethiopian government offers an olive branch, they are in an over-drive to see the Weyanes fall apart as well instead of focusing on the peace offer. It is just stunning to say the least.

      What we are seeing in Ethiopia including in Tigrai is not a crisis but a natural process of political development. And it doesn’t stop and it is not going to stop where if it ceases, it is the sign of political decay. Politics is the art of the possible, they say, and different groups with specific interests compete for a space and look for the most possible way to achieve short and long term objectives. Again, that is precisely what is happening in Ethiopia.

      The reason the PFDJ sycophants are trying so hard to shift the focus to the Weyanes is simply because they exude unimaginable contempt toward the Eritrean people [ናይ ኤርትራ ህዝቢ ኣበይ ከይበጽሕ ሆ ኢሉ ክላዓል ዐቕምን ትብዓትን የብሉን ኢሎም ስለዝናዓቕዎ]. You don’t have to go far to see this, just read Elias Amare’s tweets. It is just sad!

      • iSem

        Hi Paulo:
        indeed the contempt that these gangs hold our people is mind boggling. And they are right not to be humbled;
        They were shocked when we did not say nothing after Mai Habar
        How come the people who were so fearless in the battle, risking their lives in the cities were so mute, they asked. Then they pushed the envelope with kidnapping the kids for indefinite NS, then they disappeared the innocent journalist and also their friends and on and on
        No let up

    • Amde

      Selam iSem,

      “Aiga Forum is reporting that the residents of Adi Grat demonstrated to oppose the implementation of the agreement on Badme. Badme is on the other side of Eritrea and how this affects Adi Grat is unclear.”

      It ain’t about Badme. (not principally…)

      Irob wereda is in Agame awraja. Adigrat is the capital. (Here i am showing my age with all this talk of awraja and wereda but I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong) These people have a literal existential threat over them due to the EEBC.. It is an issue of people, not just abstract lines on paper.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam amde
        Sunday i think there will be demonstrations in mekele so r u gonna say irob kilili is in tigrai, mekele is the capital?i wonder what kind of parents raised u guys and makes u to reason like this? for real. If u know what i mean.

      • gebremedhin yohannes

        Selam Amde
        Lucky the people of Irob every body is talking bout them, but there are villages and people around Tserona going to be part of Ethiopia according to the EEBC , thy sacrifice there children during the struggle like any body in Eritrea.
        No body is talking about them, their government does not care, the opposition does not care, Sad.
        Gere

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam gebremedhin y
          If they r eritreans , they will be relocated somewhere in eritrea .in my opinion that is nothing to do with eebc .

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Gere,

          Let us start to talk about them to be swapped with the people of Irob in the time of demarcation. How about that Gere?

          • saay7

            Selamat Emma, Gere and all:

            I have been having similar debate with our friend Habtom Yohannes on FB. We should go a step further. We (Eritreans and Ethiopians) should petition the governments of Eritrea and Ethiopia to:

            1. Expedite the boundary demarcation and
            2. To do it without no or, when unavoidable, minimal displacement of Eritreans and Ethiopians.

            In passing, on this Eid Eve, I want to thank the Eritrean Catholic Church to have shown any moral authority on this issue.

            Happy Eid!

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Abu Salah,

            Remember the legal terms “arbitration” and “ ex aeqou et bono”, then it depends on both sides government. Hence dialogue is quintessential for minor adjustments.

          • Hope

            Selam Aman:
            Are you suggesting to arbitrate on the issurs that are already “arbitrated” upon and resolved?

            Can’t you open your eyes and ears and judge on what the TPLF has been saying and doing and try to csll call a spade,a spade?

            The so called family sepatation bla bla idaga s but shefet, bigotry and hypoc risy.
            FYI:
            To your DISMAY,the so called 5-point-plan is NULL ad VOID,thanks to Dr Abiy

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hope,

            I am saying the ruling was “arbitration” and the “ex aequo el bono” means that the EEBC are not the enforcers. That is why both governments are playing their dirty games putting their people at a continuous predicament. If this can not understand you, then you need to tapper your reaction.

          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            Happy Eid to you.

            I would be very enthusiastic about this. It is exactly the right thing to do.

            Amde

          • iSem

            Hi Sal: Eid Mubark
            The joint petition is good idea, but do you think to the international community would be more productive as the PFDJ will not give a hoot about petitions, jointly or separately.
            Even taking this idea further, jointly demonstrate, enough of the 20 years border problem that claimed 70 lives and thousands of others due to its long lasting implication.
            Remember your people to people initiative?, just elevating that and applying it to the border
            One thing is for sure petitioning IA does not work: G-13 petitioned, G-15 petitioned, the fighters petitioned, even we owe the creation of this website because of the shunning of petitions by IA/PFDJ: the petitions of Saleh Gadi and on his behalf

          • Abi

            Hello Saay
            Happy Eid for you and all
            You must be celebrating Eid a little bit too soon and too much.
            What did your wise father ( RIP) say to the petitioner at his office? Run! Don’t walk. Run.
            Share whatever you are smoking to Amdachin.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            The petition is a good idea and it make sense.

            But I think it’s a little premature until we know the intention of the ERITREAN government (ie IA) is going to be on the offer from Ethiopia.

            MerAwi keyHaza Arki Hza keykewin.

            Any opportunity to give the regime to oppose the dimarcation, as if this is a dialog on the ruling should be carefully thought.

            In my opinion if IA agrees to demarcate, I think the issue of Irob and other places will be sorted out as well.

            Berhe

          • gebremedhin yohannes

            Selam Aman
            I 100% agree sir , i don’t have a problem with that.
            I wish there were more voices from the opposition that advocate to the idea..
            Gere

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Amde,
        What I gather is that on the Tserona side some villages or grazing areas have been abandoned. After the Eritreans where displaced during the war, displaced north wards, Eritrean authorities didnt allow them back. It seems to me they were already enforcing the EEBC. For the Irob it is worse. According to the EECC, their claim for damages was heard and witnesses came forward to testify on what happened during the two years the Eritrean soldiers were there. They even gave name of soldiers who they allege perpetrated crimes. Their concern is very serious and they might have made personal enemies of high ranking soldiers. They cannot see themselves staying on the land and living under Eritrean government in the short term. A very messy situation.

        • Amde

          Selam Abrehet,

          To corroborate your input, I was listening to someone from Irob and he was saying “what no-war-no-peace?” (VOA or DW cant remember which) He says they have been living in a war zone pretty much, with shots fired almost every night.

          They would all have to completely abandon their places.

          I think Aiga (for which Aigaforum is named) is one of the districts there as well.

          Thank you

          Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde sir
            Speaking of aigaforum, i have seen the adigrat demonstration pic and there is a lot of ethiopian flag all over the demo but just one tigrai state flag. It is unusual.

        • Hope

          Selam Abrehet:
          Can we also confidently say about the other party -that the TPLF also could have done what tbe EDF allegedly might have done to our Eri Citizens?
          Do you really believe thaf the EDF could have committed what the Tigreyans are alleging?
          Specially if you are really an X-ELF/EPLF Fighter/Vet,would you have done to these peoole what the EDF allegedly did to them?
          History does not lie and let alone to the apparently innocent citizens,we never hurt our brutal enemies in the Nacfa Mountains!
          Case i n point,we let the criminal Pilot go free until he came back to kill us again!

          Regret to tell you that you sound like Hayat here!

          Look at the bigger picture of Peace by giving back the land to where it belongs to..

          Remember also that there are Eritreans in the same situation but no body is talking about them.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Hope,
            I am not vet ex ELF/EPLF. The claims report contains Eritria’s claims as well. Eritrean witness to crims comitted by Ethiopian soldiers gave testmony and it is all there. The topic of discussion was irob. The response of Eritrea to these allegation in fact was what happens in irob is outside of EECC, since it is an inter state matter.
            On your point whether I believe if EDF would perpetrate crimes, any soldier, specially when fed constant propaganda that dehumanizes the other side or who witnessed crimes committed by the other side is likely to commit crimes. It is not possible to say that Eritreans would behave differently. We always should work to having institutions with checks and balances to minimize abuse of power.

          • Paulos

            ሰላም ፍትውትን ክብርትን ሓፍተይ,

            ካበይ ከምዘምጻእክዎ ክፈልጥ ኣይክእልን ግን ከምዚ ገዲም ተጋዳሊት ዝነበርኪ ጌረ ይወስደኪ ኔረ:: ምናልባት እቲ ግምተይ ካብቲ ዘለኪ ዓሚዩቕ ፍልጠት ብዛዕባ ባህልናን ታሪኽናን ዝተበገሰ ክኸውን ይኽእል::

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,
            ከምቲ ዝበልካዮ፡ ካብ ትዕዝብቲ ዘምጻእካዮ እዩ። ኣብርሀት ሊቀ-ተጋዳሊት እያ።

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            ሓፋተይ is a superstar. Awate’s celebrity if you will. Wish we all could tour Eritrea with her so that we come back well informed about all the folk-wisdom and cultural settings as well.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Aya Haile S.
            Don’t get me in trouble. There is only one ሊቀ-ተጋዳላይ. At this point the only ገድሊ I am interested in is ገድሊ ኣባ ጋብር. You on the other hand are ሊቀ ኣዐዋፍ. ገለ ደሃይ ዛራ ዶ የብልካን። ኣብቲ ዓድና ባርኖስ ኣትዮሞስ ሓረስቶት ዘራእቶም የንድዱ ኣለዉ ኢሎሞ። ቀደም ዘበንሲ ዛራ ዝበሃላ ኣዕ ዋፍ ይኽተለኦም ነበራ እሞ ይበልዖም ይበሃል ነበረ።

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abrehet sorry my for not being able to come back eatlier to respond. I got very busy.

            መልሲ ክህበኪ ብግጥሚ ጀሚረ
            ስራሕ ኣብዚሔ ርሑቕ ብስራሕ ዘዊረ
            ኣይከኣልኩን ክውድኦ ናብ ዝደልዮ ኣስጊረ

            ኣብርሀት ሓውተይ ድምቕቲ ከም ራዛ
            ውሕልነት ዘረባ፡ መልሓሰ ጥበብ ሒዛ
            ተመራምረኒ ብጥዑም ዘረባ ምስ ላዛ

            እንተዘይደሊኺ ሊቀ-ተጋደልቲ
            እንሆ ሰምየኪ ሊቀ-ዓወተ-መኳንንቲ
            ምስጋና ይብጻሕኪ ዘልክኒ ሊቀ-ነፈርቲ
            ከዋፍረን ኣዕዋፍ ከድሕና ን’ዘራእቲ

            ሰላም ስኢንና ከይንመራመረሉ
            ን’ኣንበጣ ኮነ ንባርኖስ ዝቐትሉ
            Fungus ይኹኑ ሓሳኹ ዝ’ፈትሉ
            ጥይት ዘየድልዮ armyworm ተቐልቂሉ
            ዓንጽዓንጾ ባልዕ ብ’ሓዊ ክንከላኸለሉ
            ዓቕሊ’ጽበት እንተዘይኮይኑ መፍትሒ ነይብሉ

            ኣምሓራይ ክደርፍ ይብል ማሽላየ ነቐዝ በላ’ው
            እንኳንን ነቀዝ ይብላው ነጎዴ
            የሰው ነገር ኣይስማ ሆዴ

          • iSem

            Hi dottore:
            I think you have mistaken sis Abrehet because of here መጸጽ ስለ ትብል But about history, you will be shocked that most tegadality know little about culture and history of Eritrea. But they know much more abotu China and Maoe and they name their kids after heros of teh Roman Empire like Starbakus etc;
            MS is an anomaly, Saleh Gadi and Emma are not tegadality;-)

          • Paulos

            ሰመሪለ,

            መጸጸጽ ዶ’ኢልካዮ፣ ምናልባት ናይቲ ንጉሆ ንጉሆ ጽሟቕ ለሚን ትሰትዮ እዩ ዝኸውን::

            I will have to disagree with your take about Tegadelti. I specifically remember back in the late 90s in Asmara, I met a gedim Tegadalai in a friend’s house and I was amazed by his sense of knowledge about anything and everything and his flawless English as well. My next question to him was, how come a person like you is not in a ministerial position and he said, many factors at play. I sensed what he meant by that. Not sure where he is now. Hope he is well.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Paulos,
            You are generous. Unfortunately, any knowledge I have is quite shallow.

      • Desbele

        Hi Amde
        ለካ በጣም ተምረን መጥቀን ጣልያን እጁን ታጥቦ የሳለው ካርታ ገብቶናል።
        ካርታው ማንነታችን ነው። ህዝብ ሆይ ይተማረ ይግደለኝ ኣላልክም?ይሀው መጣውልህ!
        ከካርታው ደቡብ የኣብይ ነህ ፤ ከካርታው ሰሜን የ…..ስሙን ቄስ ይጥራው።

  • Dis Donc

    Dearest brothers and sisters,
    I have today and tomorrow off so I decided to pay you all a visit and noticed that there has been changes in many of you. Even Hope had impressed me with his positive looking attitude and many of those that used to bring the harbingers of bad faith preachers have disappeared, at best.
    Boarder conflict: while ultimately the people-to-people interactions solve these types of conflicts, it begins by gov’ts agreeing to abide by first arbitration and later int’l courts. Meaning, even after winning/losing you still have to know that you may have to go to court again. But for that to happen, it requires parties to come to power by ballot box. They must understand that while arbitration sets the ball rolling, the rest can be trashed out in int’l courts. As we noticed in the past 25+ years both parties didn’t believe in that. Rather they choose the confrontational way. To which, neither the guarantors nor the arbitrators subscribe to, anymore. The rest as they say is history.

    Ethiopia: for those of you who hate Ethiopia and her guts, well let me remind you that they decided, the old party and his way of doing things were not working for them. And chose a different direction. That is yet to be matched by Eritreans. A new party and a new leadership is having a say. Mind you that as recent as months ago people used to have insults like “you are an Ethiopian!” It is like “you are an idiot!” 25+ yrs is a very long time to have wasted. PFDJ and its supporters could have produced brilliant lawyers that could have defended them and Eritrea in an int’nal stage. They chose to lurk around dissuading others even from discussing ideas….. Ethiopia, at least, has Abiy to brag about!

    Economy: privatization is the back bone of any democracy. That’s not to say gov’t should abstain. Rather it should turn to a strong and an impartial regulatory body. Most democratic states failed to realize this. Politics is bad for running organizations but good for setting policies that dictates how businesses should be run… Forced or not, it is a rewarding move for Ethiopia to embark into the unknown.

    • @george

      Dear dis donc
      You seem to be a reasonable person I’m going to ask you a question, you know. Your post to most eritrea’s comes off as really really either deceptive or phony. Let me explain, number one, the overwhelming majority of Eric France most of the things as as in, Ethiopia lost in a courthouse, Ethiopia should leave from our territory as per the verdict. Then we will talk. It’s simple, just get out. But what did your government do. Instead of leaving for the last 18 years, provoke Eritrea into war, economic sanction, pedal themselves to the highest bidder, to have Eritrea isolated. Bragged about how they going to break every trust back. Now this is an Open Secret. Only, when tplf back is cornered this talk talking about how we are brotherly. First off, no Eritrean would forget what they did to us for the last 18 years. Just about every family has been traumatized. The overwhelming majority of Eritrean want Ethiopia out of our land and be done with it. That would build confidence. The fact that they’re lingering playing around only place in to our perception that Ethiopians are not trustworthy their deceptive. Until you understand that and comprehend that nothing will change. Your country is in more trouble than you can imagine. The privatization is too late. The only reason you privatizing is because you know you have run out of money. Nobody privatized a very lucrative business unless they’re forced to do it by the IMF or War bank that is a Common Sense 101. Show Eritrean people you mean business, leave Eritrean territory

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Georgy,
        Let me disappoint you and tell you that you should not waste your time talking to a phony person. If you are here for winning, well and good, I tell you that you won. I am not Eritrean and you should not waste your time talking someone that has no relation to you.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam George,

        Isn’t privatization is late too in our nation, as every business in our country is run by PFDJ party?

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei.
    By now all is agreed that the tigre government has been ruling Ethiopia. They took power in Ethiopia by the help of their blood brothers Tigrinya people. Their brothers have all they need in the North but if Tigray controls Ethiopia then why not enjoy the economical advantage. It is not illegal. Tigray never interested to be part of Ethiopia if it could have stand by its own some 27 years ago. The tigrinya also couldnt stand alone but they had a possibility to control Eritrea.

    What has done Tigray under its ruling period? A miracle for Tigray at least. And to make sure that they are not like the ‘oppressors’ amharas they never force any ethnic to speak Tigrinay except in Tigray nation. In fact they have done all possible ways of taking the wealth of Ethiopia, control the politics, religion, police, security, military you name it but never try to teach tigriyna out of Tigray. They even boasted aobut it that they never dominated Ethiopian politics or government because they never try to enforce their language upon others. One of their scholars had said to an oromo scholars (both were the graduates of asmara university) on radio debates.. i quote ”do you forget in derg time you couldnt use your own original name and you had to change amharic name”. From tigre government that is all the rest of Ethiopaina ethnics needed. You can speak your own language, some even can write. Wow. How lucky we are.

    How come the tigre government in Eritrea manages doing all the tigre government has done in Ethiopia plust forcing other ethnic groups to learn Eritrea while crushing any possible opposition. The majorities are tigrinyas. Period. In short for Eritrea it is just changing the amhara government by tigrinya government and taking the modern time into consideration the tigrinya government is worse than the amhara government.

    Thanks God these two governments went at odd during 1998 but imagine if they were never disagreed and their plan was to rule Ethiopia and Eritrea by one ethnic group called Tigre.

    • @george

      Dear mitiku

      Well well well… seems like your country man, Abi forgot to tell you how about Eritreans. You’re silly attempt bundle us the people tigray is pathetic. We ain’t nothing like them. It doesn’t serve you well. We may have collaborated, topple a formidable enemy, Ethiopia. Tplf to achieve our goal, and then independent Eritrean government. A country that is proud. A country of can do people. now what you see unfolding in your country right now is also the making of Eritrean believe that. Tplf tried everything to flip the game, but it was too late. Tplf was never our friend, they were all Partners yes friend no. Even when the government was encouraging Eritrean people Trust tplf our fathers were giving you a warning to this generation you now. The suspicious of our fathers came true. That tplf cannot be trusted. I’m sure you would agree the last 16 years and to this day tplf has reneged on the agreement they made. You see sir, you not the only one that don’t know the history of Eritrea and that is to your detriment you always underestimate Eritrea overestimate your Ethiopia which is chronically a i d dependent country. Eritrean see them self as different people. We have our own unique history and culture. How’s the people of Austria will have a different history and culture from Germany. The more we respect our differences and understand each other needs the more peaceful we become. This Relentless push to bundle us with other people will serve you little.

  • sara

    Dear Eritreans ,
    Ma-brook.. Eid Alfatr, and happy holidays… hope peace prevails in our region.
    see you after the holidays…and enjoy your family gathering …. tomorrow is Eid .

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam sara,
      Ma-brook biki. Happy holidays and amen to peace.

  • Kbrom

    Hello all

    TPLF statement?what is the statement trying to say? the more you read it the more you are confused and of course the more you tend not to trust this org.

    Algiers Agreement is not open to interpretation like the Treaty of Wuchale (Uccialli), incase the TPLF is trying to do so – no Amharic version no missing verb – it is as clear as ማይ ሓቒቕ – in fact the most accurate version is there in French.

    This is what history books say:

    ‘’ Disputes over Article 17 regarding the conduct of foreign affairs of the Treaty of Wuchale (Uccialli) led to the first Italo–Ethiopian War. The Italian version stated that Ethiopia was obliged to conduct all foreign affairs through Italian authorities, in effect making Ethiopia an Italian protectorate, while the Amharic version gave Ethiopia considerable autonomy, with the option of communicating with third powers through the Italians.

    The misunderstanding, according to the Italians, was due to the mistranslation of a verb, which formed a permissive clause in Amharic and a mandatory one in Italian.

    No ifs no buts, no permissive verbs in the Algiers Agreement all we have is mandatory verbs accept, demarcate, live in peace; all the TPLF has to do is to honour the spirit and letter of the verbs in the agreement.

    • Abi

      Selam yetekeberu Kibrom
      You forgot one mandatory phrase ” Get Out!!”.
      The Ventriloquists of the 21century have been deceiving the people of Tigray, the rest of Ethiopians and the international community.
      It is time to cut our losses and Move on. I hope PMAA is not going to listen to these liars.

      • Hope

        hahahah Guad abi:
        Finally,we are on the same page.
        Welcome to the club,buddy.

    • saay7

      Kbrom:

      You were AWOL when I asked this question: is there a Tigrinya version of the Algiers Agreement, the EEBC ruling and the EECC rulings?

      I understand why Weyane and PFDJ would never want one or all of these documents translated as they show them in bad light, but they are critical documents for people to understand their governments and themselves.

      Saay

      • Kbrom

        Selam saay

        No FORTUNATELY there is no a Tigrinya version of the Algiers Agreement, the EEBC ruling and the EECC rulings. You asking why FORTUNATELY ?because if we had it would have been a disaster due to each sides Tigrigna interpretation.

        For e.g if there is a clause which says ክልቲኦም ወገናት ክፍትኑ ኣለዎም……. for Eritrean version it will mean both sides have to try to……. for the Tigray Tigrigna version it will mean both sides have to poo!

        ክፍትንየ = ቀልቀል ክወጽእ እየ (ትግራይ)
        ክፍትንየ = ክህቅንየ ክጽዕትየ

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Kbrom,

      Yes indeed. Confusing and difficult read specially for poor Tigrigna and Amharic readers like myself. What I could gather lots of fault listing before writing a qualified yes, which could be invoked down the road. At the end of the reading I was left with impression that there are lots of ambiguities that can lots of devils in the detail that could be nightmarish to negotiators when the despot in Asmara would respond positively and engages.

  • said

    Selam Dr .Beyan,
    I am quoting you ,the example of Iraq was immoral and wrong to side with aggressor : (Ethiopia’s failure to go all the way in and dislodging the man from the helm was akin to what the US did in the first Iraq war with Bush senior. Because it was left unfinished the US had to go back several years later to unseat the tyrant Saddam from power).
    I will very short .The real moral imperative is for American not invade Iraq .I am against the former dictator Saddam Hussein, after Iraq sanctions, the real goal of US Iraq policy was regime change, this lead to Iraq’s dismemberment or at a minimum and prolonged state of debilitating instability, today you have Iraq’s fighting among themselves ,regime change belong solely to Iraqi people . let me just quote you from US main stream media (“Study: Iraqi widows struggle in new roles as breadwinners,” Baghdad, Iraq, CNN.com/world, Mar. 7, 2009; “Iraq’s War Widows Face Dire Need with Little Aid,” By Timothy Williams, The New York Times, Feb. 22, 2009) United States foreign policy has resulted in the deaths and injuries and displacement and hardship of millions of human beings, “including the children” Well over a million Iraqi civilians have been killed in the Bush administration’s pre-emptive, falsely-based, illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. A deadly civil war between the Shiites and the Sunnis, triggered by the war,. Some four million Iraqi citizens have been uprooted. The country’s life-sustaining infrastructure has been and still is decimated.
    “Including the children?” Especially the children. Reports have revealed that the U.S.’s criminal war has produced “an estimated 740,000 widows in Iraq,” whose “presence on city streets begging for food or as potential recruits by insurgents [italics added] has become a vexing symbol of the breakdown of Iraq’s self-sufficiency.
    Jesus taught, “Do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Luke 6: 31) This universally proclaimed Golden Rule, on which justice and peace depend, requires self-awareness and awareness of other people’s reality.

    • sara

      Dear said,
      in addition to what happened to Iraq and Libya we now have the worst situation in Syria. almost 3/4 of the population are either refugees in the neighboring countries or internally displaced inside the country.

  • AMAN

    Greetings All
    >
    REMINDER
    >
    I thought would be politicians would confront and
    challenge the facts,realities and statements I was
    making and I make , but yeh NOT . It is all speculation
    and
    guessing about me and my points AND arguing on
    misplaced ideas and speculation based “facts”.
    Moreover, it is also good to remember that ideas
    morph and evolve as they unfold with time and space
    as they are influenced by so many inputs and factors.
    Idea is elastic and dynamic by its nature and not rigid
    and static. It is only human beings who chose so that
    remain fixed and static as time and tide turns on its pages
    and its currents.

  • Now inc.

    Hope,
    I think a case can be made where Eritrea can legitimately ask Ethiopia for port service fees of 30 years (1961-1991).
    But that would be later.

    • Hope

      Now Inc:
      That Port thing is besides the wanton destruction and damages(material and human Life) the successive Ethiopian regime have incurred up on us.
      In the real world,the USA,the UN,the British and the Italians should have compensated us in $ billions, which is /could have been an easy case to make if there was any Justice..
      As far as the alleged compensation as a precondition for Normalization with Ethiopia is concerned, well,unless the world is nice enough and considerate to compensate us,Ethiopia shall laugh at us if that becomes a case ,then Dr Abiy can tell PIA:”Nedekha mai Wiredela”.
      Ms Bruton made a good point/case but Elias Amare twisted it to look like/to be a precondition for Ethio-Eri Normalization….by adding fuel to oil saying :”Eritrea is NOT interested in normalizing its relationship with Ethiopia as if we haven’t been lectured by issu and his cronies…

  • Hope

    Correction:
    Not that it matters to you but it should read as;”…blaming Dr Abiy for his peace gesture with Eritrea”..
    BTW:
    Why do you guys HATE Peace and a peaceful co-existence?

  • Abi

    Hope Nefse
    I see you haven’t run out of zeros. You just run out of space to put your zeros.
    ተስፋ ተሸክሞ ሲዞር አገር ላገር
    ጭነቱን ሲያወርደዉ ለካስ ዜሮ ነበር
    ተስፋ ቀላማጁ ባዶ ተሸካሚ
    አንተማ ቀላመድክ የለም እንጂ ሰሚ

    • Hope

      Abisha:

      There is a solid reason as to why I picked up the nick,HOPE!

      Kristian tesfa aikortim aydele endie yemitilut?

      Plus,my HOPE is NOT only as a Christian but based on facts,when I mention those unlimited numbers(billions and trillions of $).

      I guarantee you that had we been a ONE and UNITED Country and exploit those natural resources, in 2018,you would believe those astronomical numbers in $$$$.
      even if we remain as separate nations but work for an economic Integration peacefully and mutually, we could even have been much wealthier collectively..
      Think about :
      -the more than Two Billion tons of Potash on the Ethiopian side
      -The Nile Dam and other dams with their huge income potential
      -The Joint use of our huge Red Sea and its resources(salt,fish,tourism,etc….)
      -The Red Sea Dam….
      I think that was the vision of PIA in 1991 and I have to confess to you that was my dream and wish;.and by 2030 or earlier, we could have ended up being ONE and STRONG Nation by people’s choice.
      Guess who messed up?
      Your TPLF Janda.and its Advisors like Hayat Adem

  • @george

    Dear all

    It is sad and pathetic to see woyane lovers trying to include p i a in the mix. They continue to speculate how PIAA is panicking. If anything the Eritrean government is not panicking. If Eritrean and government they would have done the most predictable thing which is post a statement. They kept quiet shows confidence not been panicking not being reactionary. It is Ethiopia that is adjusting. Eritrea is doing what always done respond only when they want to. But the pathetic sympathizers off tplf TPLF I left speculate and make assumptions best or nothing but pure fantasy.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hello Hope,

    A stiff neck causes discomfort and severe pains 🙂

    The following might help. They certainly help cure stiff necks, HOPE you can use them–they 🙂

    sar·casm (ˈsärˌkazəm) noun. the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
    hu·mor (ˈ(h)yo͞omər) noun. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech.

  • Hope

    Here is a HINT from Elias Amare via a twitter:
    ‘Even if the EEBC is implemented, Eritrea is NOT interested in normalizing its relationship with Ethiopia and Ethiopia should compensate Eritrea FIRST for occupying Baduma and other Eri Lands for 16yrs…”
    why can’t this DUDE shut up his mouth -unless he was ordered to say so?..
    May be something is being cooked up behind the scene by PIA as most expected it ….
    This is a HELLish idea…and this kind of people with such a hellish ideas should go to HELL.

    • saay7

      Hope:

      Actually, Elias would never (ever, ever, ever) go off-script. So where did he get the Ethiopia must compensate Eritrea? Does Eritrea have its own preconditions for normalizing relations above and beyond EEBC? According to the last EriTV editorial, the answer is yes. That’s when “compensation” made its first appearance.

      So, Hope, your dispute is not with Elias but…..drumroll….the Man @ Adi Halo.

      saay

      • Paulos

        Selam Sal,

        Can you please elaborate? Are you saying that, that couldn’t have been his [Amare’s] idea? Pretty much the cruel man’s silent response?

        • saay7

          Paulos:

          I am saying that Elias Amare, notwithstanding his pretensions of intellectualism, is and has always been “party hack.” And it is unthinkable for him to utter a single original idea as he would see it as a form of betrayal.

          Eri-TV has been a giving a series of even-longer-than-usual editorials on the occasion of the anniversaries of EEBC ruling (April), the referendum (April) the announcement of the Ethiopian parliament to declare war and the last offensive (May 12) all focused on how terrible the TPLF is and how committed PFDJ is to the rule of law (don’t laugh), and how the new government of Ethiopia has to show courage. (Don’t laugh.) This was before the independence day address of IA when he didn’t mention them.

          In one of them, it says that what Eritreans need is demarcation and “consolation” for the time and opportunity lost. It is this “consolation” that Elias Amare converted to currency.

          Place the following on the youtube search bar start at the 9:00 mark.

          ERi-TV ሓተታ/Editorial: ስነ-መጎት ሓይልን ዕንወቱን – May 12, 2018

          saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Thank you so much I appreciate. The Cabral dude is shallow and intellect wannabe. Think tank ma foot!

      • Now inc.

        SAAY,
        Elias was replying to PFDJista Bronwyn Bruton who wrote:
        “Tsk tsk. I’m beginning to think that perhaps the Algiers decision should be re-opened. Could reverse the monetary damages award and make #Ethiopia pay reparations for occupying #Eritrea territory all these years…

        • saay7

          Selam Now Inc:

          I know; and Bronwyn was responding (tongue-in-cheek) To reporter Tom Gardner who was commenting that TPLFs quasi rebellion against EPRDF is counter to the “democratic centralism” culture they supposedly have.

          Elias Amares comment is unhelpful as the situation is so complicated it doesn’t need more complication.

          Saay

      • Nitricc

        HEY SAAY; I have no idea why this a big deal. Transfer of land and dimacration is one thing and normalization is something different. The two countries can demarcate the border and go their own separate way or they can demarcate and then normalize to work together. During normalization, every issue has to come out and deal with it head on. Because that what real normalizing needs to be. I think they should take up every issue there to make real peaceful existence.The rush to accuse the government of Eritrea is concerning.

        • saay7

          Nitricc:

          I don’t know why you simplify a very hard and complicate thing (Eritrea-Ethiopia demarcation, with relocation of people) and you complicate a very simple thing (IA issuing a statement telling the world what his position is on what his Ethiopian counterpart said.)

          You guys (supporters of IA) always reverse the process: step 1, agree with whatever decision he made; step 2, rationalize the decision. In this case, there are five possible thing he can do: (a) remain silent, (b) support the decision of the PM (1) enthusiastically or (2) unenthusiastically or (c) reject it (1) colorfully, or (2) matter-of-factly. And the thing, whichever option he chooses, you will support it with glowing description.

          This sheepish following has not served Eritrea well, and I highly recommend an attitude adjustment.

          saay

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY, i think you are analysing this thing from emotional standpoint. I have said, PIA has to do everything he can this thing to work, if not, the accusation that PIA want this issue to go on so he can prolong his power. I never believed that is to be true, but if he made any excuses to this deal, then i will be the first one to say that is true. But, But PIA and the country paid so much about this border thing. So much so, Eritrea lost the whole generation due to the illegal stand of the weyne thugs. I know, you guys in the opposition are out there to degrade PIA but I don’t see it that way. If you guys stood up for the begining with what is right, with what the rule of law, TPLF had no chance to play Eritrea all the way. Now, thanks To the USA, when Ethiopia is cornered, forced to respect the Algiers agreement, please we know what you guys was saying. when i say, you guys, i am implying the so-called toothless opposition, not personally you.
            Now, here is the deal, reading the Addis Standard, it tells the truth how Eritrea bleed to death from the refusal of ethiopia accepting the agreement and you are musiming your duty for realising the hard cold facts. for the country who lost so much, what is wrong trying to exploit from desperate enemy who has caused so much damage by destroying the rule law? I think the real case is, The vindication of PIA didn’t go well with the so-called toothless opposition. I am not with PIA, i am with what is justice and with what is the best interest of Eritrea. There is one truth, TPLF will never let PMAA do what is right and get ready Ethiopia to go all out disorder, that way to undermined PMAA and get back to power. so, all this is just cruel joke on us. if you have any doubt, read the TPLF press release from the corrupted TPLF thugs.

          • saay7

            Nitricc:

            😂😂😂

            saay

    • Paulos

      Selam Hope,

      I was just thinking about that. You’re absolutely right. That is a prelude for the coming Hateta from ሚኒስትሪ ዜና.

    • sara

      Dear Hope,
      this time i think you got it wrong, dont you think what he said is the feeling of most eritreans?
      hope hawye, those of us who got the burnt of the war and its aftermath have not yet the wound healed. maybe time will help, but right now … i

      • Hope

        Ahlen Biki Wo Ma-Brook Biki Ya Ukhtina kebira:/Wo Haiset nai Hayyisan Hitna:
        U missed my follow up comments and responses to SAAY and Now Inc.
        This is what I said:
        We Eritreans deserve more than a $1000,0000,000,000..00(The figures are Just to ‘annoy” Abi)in material and human damages incurred up on us over the last 60 yrs by the USA,its Puppert UN,The British and the Italians besides by the successive Ethiopian Regimes and Oppressors.
        My negative reaction to Mr Elias Amare is coz he sounded as if he is putting the compensation as a precondition for “Normalization” with Ethiopia by saying” Even if the EEBC is implemented, we are not interested in normalization of our relationship ,unless they compensate us $100 Million the first year then 15 % of it for each yr -for 15 yrs or so”.,if at i got him correctly.
        Mind you that the Ethiopians can use this negative attitude as an excuse to even to declare/ make the EEBC NULL and VOID,as they said/have done it before, unless they are desperate for something that I am missing apart from the Port use, specially for their multibillion $$ Potash Mining,which could change Ethiopia’s Economic Game.
        Dr Abiy declared “Unconditionally” and PIA should reciprocate as such and the other businesses are part of the follow up negotiations including Compensation, which is LEGITIMATE and a MUST!..

  • saay7

    Selamat @george:

    You think PM Abiy is a creation of Weyane? Then they are great actors because TPLF Central Committee just issued a communique following a two-day emergency meeting where they found fault with what he did. Interesting Tigrai Online had one of those “the heading contradicts the content” headlines. The headline says “TPLF Central Committee Endorses the EPRDF Executive Committee Decision To Accept The Algiers Agreement Without Preconditions” and then when you press the link you are taken to the actual press release of the TPLF CC which after the self-congratulatory preamble criticizes the EPRDF 🙂

    TPLF has basically become an opposition party and its views should have no bearing on state-state negotiations. I mean is Trump worried about what Schumer is thinking of when negotiating with what’s his name?

    saay

    • sara

      Dear saay.
      sorry but this time i beg to differ with you on the comparison you gave, very very distant.

  • Amde

    Awatistas,

    ወይ 2018.. We are not even at halfway point yet.

    ዝገርም እዩ አለ ጉራጌው።

    Amde

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam amde sir
      Tplf is so predictable, they already accepted Algiers agreement fully and decided to fight welkyet in full force.
      What is u sheroqerro guys thinking about it sir?

    • Abi

      Amdachin
      I waited 4 long years to watch the World Cup. I found a better game to watch in the name of Badime Cup. It is going to be a great playoffs between Badime, Tsorona, Erob, Hamisit…
      ጥሎ ማለፍ !! አለ ትግሬ
      እዋይ !
      More popcorn please.

      • Saleh Johar

        Abi,
        See what tyranny does to a people! It turns them to a laughing stock. You are a cruel spectator, I hope the popcorn turn into pebbles in your mouth 🙂

        • Abi

          Selam Ato Saleh
          Thanks for the laugh. In case you forgot the unpopped kernels are worse than pebbles. Happened to me before.
          More Guinness please.

      • Amde

        Aቢቲ

        What World Cup? ቀልደኛ ነህ።

        TPLF as the “official” Opposition to the EPRDF. It’s stunning.

        Amde

    • halafi mengedi

      Amde,

      It seems a lot has happened since i last checked the internet. What exactly is happening?

      TIA.

      hm

      • Amde

        Hi hm,

        The long and short of it is, TPLF CC agrees with EPRDF EC on Badme and Privatization.

        But they are mad no consultation done on implementation. That it was announced to the public without preparation. That the EPRDF Council didnt have a say in the announcement and it didnt go through usual channels. That they disagree with recent demotions/promotions etc.. And the Old Guard (veteran leadership) need to be recognized.

        Amde

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Sir Amde,

          That is exactly what I understood it, for which the public are still confused with. They have to iron out their differences, whatever it takes, in order to implement the ruling to bring the peace once for all.

        • Selam Amde,

          How come that pm Abiy took the initiative to make this major policy changes without discussion and consent from the 180 eprdf council members and no due consultation or without getting mandate from the ethiopian parliament?

          In addition, tplf calls his economic policy a quick fix and not a permanent solution for its own reasons, which i do not know.

          What could be the factors that have played a role, internal and external?

          Tplf also says that decision on eritrea is fundamentally in agreement with that of the ethiopian government’s position over the last 18 yrs, more or less saying that there is nothing new.

          It seems that tplf is possibly going to exploit the situation to undermine pm Abiy and his administration. The eprdf seems gradually entering a political storm, which may have a major effect on peace, stability and the economy, unless eprdf overcomes the problem before it takes each group to the extreme.

          • Amde

            Selam Horizon,

            Well.. this thing was approved by the EPRDF EC. Is that good enough? We don’t know – TPLF CC seems to think it belongs to be decided by the EPRDF Council, but then turn around and say they are OK with it.

            But the whole point of the emergency TPLF CC meeting was to respond to Tigrayan public outrage. I don’t know how their statement does anything for them on that front.

            It sounds to me they want to have the whole EPRDF share the blame. Jawar and friends are saying that it was TPLF that insisted on putting this on Abiy’s agenda in the first place. If that is true, then it spectacularly backfired.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            So, there were two TPLF statements issued. One was by the communications office, which was issued days after PM Abiye’s announcement to counter the “confusion” that was created post the announcement. Here, the communication office says it agrees with the EPRDF position, then reframes what the EPRDF position is: we are not giving up land. The other, by the Central Committee of the TPLF (following its emergency meeting), is the one you are talking about. This is the TPLF assuming the position of the Permanent Board of Directors and conducting a 60-day employee evaluation of Abiye. They are not happy about a lot of things (needs improvement) but in one area he got “unacceptable” and that is in “communications” because they are not being consulted and their constituents getting a buy-in on his decisions, which are exactly their position and haven’t changed in the last 16 years. (Insert many exclamation points here.)

            I hope the PM doesn’t lose his nerve. If this is an FDRE issue and he actually believed in what he said (that the approach used in the last 16 years was a mistake) then he can’t yield to the people who engineered the failed policy.

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            But the “employee evaluation” was not the reason for the “emergency” CC meeting. It is actually a spectacularly bad and craven statement. They complain about Abiy (but not about anything of substance), but they don’t take a principled position their constituency cares about which is Irob and the border. So instead of fixing anything they make things worse on the Abiy front, AND they make things bad on the Tigray front. If they at least kept their feelings about Abiy to themselves, they could (possibly) maintain a working relationship behind the scenes.

            I dont think they are a major factor now. The game is primarily more Tigrayan popular opinion and the military. Of course I could be wrong.

            Weird…

            Amde

          • Selam Amde.

            Let me hope i have understood when you say “The game is primarily more Tigrayan popular opinion and the military.” Otherwise, i believe you will forgive me.

            Two regional states in a federation can agree to change their internal borders without any problem. In my opinion, change in the external borders of a regional state requires the consent of the federal government, the regional government, the people of the state and that of the federation. This may be the reason tplf calls for the ethiopian people to discuss in detail the matter before any decision, because as it says it is the people who paid the ultimate sacrifice.

            Supposing that pm Abiy is naive enough to believe what other people try to advise him, and tries to implement his decision. The only way available to him is to use the army, because tplf and the people of tigray are going to say “NO”. Imagine what the outcome will look like, civil war and chaos, to the satisfaction of others.

            It is authoritarianism and self-assertion, and nobody elected him for that. This is not what ethiopians expect from him. He must learn to listen and he should try to rule with consensus.

          • Amde

            Selam horizon,

            It didnt sound like it was his position. It sounded like it was the EPRDF EC’s position and that was how it was announced. Was it consensus or majority vote in the EC? We dont know. And on what basis some things are decided by the EC and some by Council, we don’t know. But I would imagine the people the constituent parties send to the EC are believed to be competent enough to determine what needs the Council’s input and what can be decided by the EC.

            Some activists are demanding that minutes of the EC meeting be made public. Just so we can put to bed the question of whether this is an Abiy decision or an EPRDF decision.

            I agree in principle, the public and their representatives should discuss and preferably agree. It should have been done 16 years ago. Maybe it is not too late. And in any case, it does not look anybody in Asmara cares that this new guy is sticking his neck out for them – nor too many Eritreans outside of Eritrea either. So, this thing could be back in the freezer in a matter of weeks.

            One of the interesting news items today was Andargachew Tsige reporting that PM Abiy threatened to resign if Andy was not released. The implication of that story is huge. Andargachew says that he believed him. If it is true, it shows Abiy is not just a pretty talking guy but has a backbone. AND that even given the opportunity to unseat Abiy on something as consequential as freeing an armed opposition leader, EPRDF could not or didn’t want to unseat him. It may be as simple as them wanting to remove him but not having an acceptable replacement.

            Still a big mystery why it has to be done now.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi Made; When PMAA came to power, I urged him to move and
            act fast. He did just exactly that. Now, I am saying to myself, did he move and act too fast? I say this because I am observing flair-ups in many direction of Ethiopia, I thought things were getting better and the country was going on the right path. My question is do you think PMAA acted before the TPLF networks were completely destroyed? I can’t imagine. Any peace loving Ethiopians wants PMAA to fail, if anyone that will be TPLF. I understand TPLF can’t initiate what is happening in Awassa but there must be TPLF’s network who are causing this things. Never undermined the evilness of the TPLF!!! I hope Ethiopians unite and support PMAA. He seems the real deal.

          • saay7

            Amde:

            Somewhere else, I described the TPLF CC statement as “Back-In-My-Day-ism”, the language of grumpy old men begrudging the ways of the upstart. I don’t know if they really think the way EPRDF did things was really popular with Ethiopians, or if they think it may not have been popular but that is what the people needed (“revolutionary democracy.”)

            It is interesting to see how the different Ethiopian media has spun the news: with the rabidly pro-TPLF describing it as TPLF-CC endorsed “EPRDF”, the subtlly pro-TPLF Daniel Berhane summarized in 3 sentences “Is EPRDF the same EPRDF of February 2018 or a different party? We are no longer confident on the way appointments and decisions are made, announced and implemented. Let’s hold an emergency meeting of the EPRDF organs and discuss”, whereas AddisStandard is using the kitchen sink approach of “here’s everything they said, you sort it out.”

            Of course, this is entirely an intra-Ethiopia issue but the reason we Eritreans are so noisy (I watched the Negarit video yesterday AbuSelah, zgedefkalna yeblkan:)))) is this line: “ካብ ደገን ካብ ዉሽጥን ህዉሓትን ህዝቢ ትግራይ ንምድኻምን ንምውቓዕን ኮነ ኢሎም ብዝተፈላለየ መንገዲ ፀረ ህዝቢ ትግራይን መሪሕ ዉዱቡን ንዝንቐሳቐሱ ሓይልታት ህዝብና ኣምሪሩ ክቃለሶም ማእኸላይ ኮሚቴ ህወሓት ፃዉዒቱ የቕርብ።” Change “ህዉሓትን ህዝቢ ትግራይ” to “ህዝባዊ ግንባርን ህዝቢ ኤርትራን”, they are just the exact same thing. Two dinosaur, terrible organizations that are full of themselves.

            Also, breaking news, the Chief of Staff of PM Abiye said something that will annoy the TPLF-CC even more, as it relates to banking policy.

            saay

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde,

            Is it true that former PM HMD had both the topics, privatization and Eritrea conflic, as agendas for this year’s meeting? That may answer the question you have been asking, why PMAAA raised the Eritrean topic now?

            hm

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam All
    Tplf endorsed the unconditional withdrawal of badema which is originally kunama’s land and accepted the Algiers agreement and disappointed the foot soldiers once again.

  • Mez

    Dear All

    Mr Cohen is “offering” his advice : “How Ethiopia and Eritrea can forge a new relationship”

    • Selam Mez.

      It is impossible to say that he is a serious and unbiased adviser when he says the following:

      a) “Badme, a disputed territory which Ethiopia illegally occupied in 1998, sparking the border war.” He doesn’t even know well the topic he is discussing.

      b) “Re-opening the border for trade….allowing businesses to pay for goods in either country’s local currency.” He has no idea that the economy is the main cause of the conflict.

      c) “An existing high-quality road from Massawa port to Ethiopia could serve northern Ethiopia. ….Ethiopia would no longer have to rely exclusively on the distant port of Djibouti and the less-than-reliable railway connection.” No idea about geography as an american, when he speaks of djibouti and assab, and he may not be aware of the high speed electric railway connecting addis and djibouti.

      Can anyone take seriously this person as an adviser? As a paid lobbyist for the eritrean regime, he is trying to say something, and he is saying nonsense.

      • Mez

        Dear Horizon,

        The four points he mentioned may deserve some closer look. He has some holistic approach, I think that is a good framing.

        The factual quality of his paper may deserve a (C-) grade.

        Thanks

      • Mez

        Dear Horizon,

        the four points presented by mr. cohen are interesting to look closer. (Somehow I couldn’t post my reply for this the last two days

  • Mez

    Dear Abi,

    One thing is being a lively streamed fact: Ethiopian politics is in the process of being well-steered & cooked like “tegabino shiro ተጋቢኖ ሽሮ”. PIA has to adjust himself to this new unusual phenomena; now probably on a daily base.

    Thanks

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    The cruel man is probably ዊፒን’ Nega’s sorry ኣዝ as he is begging him to let him go.

  • Natom Habom

    good morning awate
    I think you forget to mention also the dirty game opposition played
    by agreeing the woyane proposal in case they get to power by revising the border agrement
    they were in the buisness on denying even there is a treat for eritrea that ISSAYAS used it as an escuse to control the country ,there is no need for conscript ,they are slave on and on and on . we see now all media harrassing Eritrea that was telling the same thing for 20 years why are they awake now ,the Ethiopian didnt even withdraw from our land yet ,
    I dont ISSAYAS was hated in africa it just geopolitic Ethiopia get the advantage because woyane choose to be a pet for American and western country as many of you advocating her
    Eritrea have no wrong nor it participate in the somalia problem ,no evidence has been found until now,but we dont blame you that is the nature of opposition ,lyind day and night ,misleading ,vilifing ,demonizing ,conspiring with the enemy ,
    good writting do but no one need your judgement or advise anymore
    because you guys stabbed your own country in the back in time of need .

  • iSem

    Hi All;
    TPLF released resolution after its emergency meeting and one of the resolutions says this:

    They criticized the emerging EPRDF MO that violates the tents, they resolved kem timal with our people we will renew and invigorate our struggle.
    They demanded that EPRDF to consult with t he old TPLF guard about important decisions Criticized EPRDF’s shortsighted solution to the economic problems
    We note what the overtures of undermining the the identity issies the cont has already answered in pursuit of sowing disunity and disintegration in the Tigray

    • Paulos

      Selam Semerile,

      TPLF CC, however, has fully endorsed and accepted the Algiers agreement.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Paulos

        “TPLF CC, however, has fully endorsed and accepted the Algiers agreement.”

        Please don’t disappoint the Eritreans who love Woyane more than the Tigreans themselves. I hate to see the heartbroken. Now look what you did:

        Semere Andom is going to disappear for a month 🙂

        Semere Tesfai

        • Paulos

          Selam Ato Semere Tesfai,

          Even if the Weyanes had rejected the young PM’s olive branch, it wouldn’t have made any difference at all except that the cruel man would have spun it all the way around the universe if you will to feed on the gullible and the ንኺድ ጥራሕ or is it ነሳፍሕ.

          Not sure if you have ever been to the country of the young PM, they have something called Rule-of-Law and Constitutional Order. The conspiracy theory where you are fond of peddling is far from the truth to say the least. The young PM will be in trouble after coming back from Eritrea for the Weyanes will jump him? That sure cracks an audience in a Stand Up Comedy. Get real ኣቶ ሰመረ ተስፋይ.

        • iSem

          Semere:
          Semere Andom knew not about Woyane, The Eritrean knew not about the Woyane until the Woyane masquerading as Eritreans introduced both Semere Andom and Eritreans to the Woyane by way of kicking Semere Tesfay.
          True or False Semere?
          Semere Andom is going no where if he does it is to celebrate the peace, but not with Hade hade, woylka ewuur
          Now let me repeat TPLF, the Woyane, Tigray what ever you call them did much better things for their people and their country than the PFDJ and IA ever did since their debut for Eritrean. That is truth and you know it.
          And Semere stop dishonesty because dishonesty very Woyane thing, trait, MO, hallmark
          And I am sure that PFDJ and IA will disappoint you and you will disappear as long as Badme was occupied by Woyane and the time frame is not the 1998 war, if you know what maleteay mukanney:-)

          • Saleh Johar

            iSem,
            Mark my words! This is not 2018. It’s 2000. Someone got hold of a time machine. Now let’s wait for the list of new arrests in Eritrea and victimization in the Diaspora. But this time, the parrots are equipped with lawyer credentials. But why am I even responding to a Weyane like you 🙂

        • Nitricc

          Hey Semere, i say for the rest of the year. the end of dedebitawian is fast approaching.

  • Abi

    Hope Nefse
    I told you several times that Assab will go back to the rightful owners. Why are you surprised? Just wait and see Abiye and Isuye declare the return of Denkalia to Mama Ethiopia.

  • Selam Hope,

    If you had approved dia’s actions when he was right and criticized him when he was wrong, and did not worship him day and night, right or wrong, you would not have ended with a monster he has become, who is killing a nation without an iota of remorse.

    I personally has not denied him completely my support yet, but i am saying don’t run, walk with a steady pace. Don’t shoulder so easily what dia (the one-quarter eritrean) and mz (the half eritrean) and eplf/pfdj and tplf/the sitting doll eprdf) have done at the expense of ethiopia without a dialogue, whether they have signed the so-called final and binding agreement or not, because ethiopia and ethiopians were not fully represented, if at all.

    You can put me in the “evil trio” for that (as you said in your first comment before editing, i think). I have no problem.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All, if I was PIA, I will wide open this border thing. PMAA is on the move and bold, PIA should get bolder and make a move. Invite PMAA to Asmara and watch the weyane thugs getting buried alive. This move alone will kill weyane politically while emboldening PMAA and the rest of the Ethiopian people. There is nothing more painful for weyane than watching PMAA and PIA walking in the streets of Asmara.

    • saay7

      Nitricc:

      Now you are talking …. I was worried when you had joined the tunnel vision gang that was giving IA excuses for hiding when he is most needed (as usual.) Can you imagine a CEO of a company disappearing for a week when something major happened to his company? The board of directors could convene a meeting and fire his azz….

      Anyway, so here’s an idea, since PM Abiy returns with Ethiopian prisoners everywhere he goes, whom do you think he will take back with him?

      saay

      • Nitricc

        Hey SAAY: well Abi took my answer. hahahah. I think, if PIA wants the mother of revenge on TPLF, all he has to do is invite PMAA to Asmara. Can you imagine what the reaction of TPLF. Anyway; PIA is in it all the way. No more ifs and buts. Time to move on! And PMAA should bring back Brhanu Nega and the entire Ethiopian opposition leaders. No more!!

        • saay7

          Nitricc:

          I have a follow up question but let me first check to make sure Semere T is not recording this:

          What if the Eritrean prisoners, who have been in underground prisons for decades without a day in court, ask for Ethiopian citizenship and get it? Can he take them with him?

          saay

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Nitrickay,

          Could you also say the same thing on the Eritrean side also? I am sure you wouldn’t. Your only purpose in this forum is, to fight for the Ethiopian issue and not the Eritrean issue. Am I right Nitrickay?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei.

      How many times were Tigrians in North and South together and separated? How many times they were cooperated and fought one another. Then figure it out for yourself. The majority of Ethiopians, 100 woyanes and PIA are occupied with Ethiopian Ethnic Politics. The genuine and the majority take the ethnic politics by its face value meaning each ethnic group shall benefit from what ever type of unity we are aiming at. The devils one use for manipulating the majorities regardless how many millions are wiped out of our planet.

      But which ever ways the killil concept is not bounded in Ethiopian boarders. Specially Eritrea is included cause it was not that long time ago Eritrea departed from the union. So think again how you work with your blood brothers in South who unknown number of them call themselves Ethiopians. The bottom line is Tigrians are divided into two one is called Tigray people and the other called themselves by their language Tigrinya so that we dont be confused. Some took the confusion beyond any limits to the extent of wiping one another.

      So Badme belongs to both Tigray and Tigrinya people. It doesnt matter which ever nation they belong as long as there is no hidden agenda.

      Mastering my ethnic policy (which i hate it to death) i advise you that the Badme problem is not other ethnic problems in both Ethiopia or Eritrea. It is yours and your brothers. You want to solve it by force then try to not include the rest of other ethnic groups in the name of Eritrea and Ethiopia.

      • Saleh Johar

        Mitiku,
        Just wondering why, in your mind, the Kunama people are in the mix? Do you mean they have nothing in Badme?

    • Natom Habom

      selam nitricc
      shoundn t Ethiopia withdraw first before inviting him ,Woyane is dead already but no one yet know any think yet about him Dr Abiy ,it will be wise to wait and see first

    • Now inc.

      Nitricc,
      Yeah that might be a big problem for IA. If he makes peace with Ethiopia and normalcy returns, he knows what awaits him. He faces death or life-long sentence on treason charges for handing Badme and environs to Ethiopia in the early 1990’s.
      Everyone will then know he IS a human being after all and that the law can catch up with him too.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Nitric

      1. – “If I was PIA, I will wide open this border thing. PMAA is on the move and bold, PIA should get bolder and make a move. Invite PMAA to Asmara and watch the weyane thugs getting buried alive. This move alone will kill weyane politically while emboldening PMAA and the rest of the Ethiopian people. There is nothing more painful for weyane than watching PMAA and PIA walking in the streets of Asmara.”

      Nitricc ok, ok, ok. After all the hugs the kisses and the smiles, after all the wining and dining, after all the the handshakes photos and wall-to-wall news coverage……… Well,

      A. – The Abiy guy is going to go home to face reality

      B. – The Abiy guy is member of the EPRDF party – the same party the Woyanes belong to and the same party that nominated him

      B. – The Abiy guy’s job-one is to stabilize and govern a nation (a nation that has Tigray in it) that is socially divided and economically getting weaker by the day.

      Now think: In this political scenario, the Abiy guy has to ‘throw someone under the bus’: the Woyanes guys or the PFDJ guys. What if he chooses to throw the PFDJ guys under the bus?

      REWARD HIM FOR HIS DEEDS, NOT FOR HIS WORDS.

      Semere Tesfai

  • Hayat Adem

    Special treat for Saay and the rest,
    Listen to this guy. How is it we are not cured from our illnesses if there are such minds of reason, hearts of warmth? Our world could shine brighter when we don’t get cultish about our political leaders, when we ignore the Mzungus and we tune to the Muluwork Kidanemariams and Amanuel Sahle’s for wisdom. We are getting over excited just because Abiy threw one statement out of palace. But how better did Muluwork explain our situation a very forward looking way! Watch:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hseyYyvZkw
    (Appeal to Moda: Please tolerate me for the link, just this time, as i don’t frequent it even during the weekend)

    • saay7

      Hayat:

      Man, I didn’t even get to see your gift: the graveyard shift moda killed your link. The workaround for weekday links is just type the name of the article or video as it appears and Cousin Google will help us with the rest.

      Speaking for we who are excited for the one statement Abiye threw, here are other exciting short statements:

      1. I love you
      2. Will you marry me
      3. Your cancer is in complete remission
      4. Your application is approved

      You get the idea Hayat. This is why we are excited: he was able to say in less than 2 months that the former leaders couldn’t in 16 years. If all the wise people were endorsing the decisions made by hzbawi weyane Harnet Tigray, to freeze things how they are where they are because some white paper said that is how Ethiopia will show strength (Addis Standard), then they are not wise.

      saay

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Saay,

        you can search on google for “Tigrigna Social Media” you tube channel. And you can watch he video of “መምህር ሙሉወርቅ ኪዳነማርያም” title in tigrina.

        Berhe

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Hayat,

      I think for you to characterize the Algiers agreement as “null and void” is the wrong approach. We can preach peace, brothers and sisters, neighbors, all day long but will not materialize as the damage done because of the war is series and it will require a long time to heal. The Algiers agreement, as imperfect as it is, provides some sort of closure to help move forward.

      What I find very encouraging from the video you shared and similar other videos is that, the people of Tigray have a lot more freedom to express their views, opinions freely in front of the government in charge. None of these exist in Eritrea today, even in places (like church for example) where people really watch what they say and what they discuss. Unless it’s the line of the PFDJ government and endorsing their policy, there is nothing close to that.

      I don’t know if the people of Tigray had that kind of freedom all the time, say when PMMZ was in power. But I have not seen any video’s that would indicate that. What seems to me is, with the change of government in Ethiopia, the movement of changes that started in Oromo is trickling down to all parts and including in Tigray.

      And PMAA I think is taking advantage of that and he is also encouraging this type of dialog. What I am getting from you is that, you want to go to the old way of doing things…..even as far as advising EPRDF to remove him from power.

      Berhe

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Berhe,

        I don’t think the moda will remove the link without reading it. That is the only advantage of being a moderator. Our Saay has already read it when it was linked by Hayat.

        Second, with the despot and his party their history always repeat as usual. You remember when he was refusing the Algiers agreement. And you remember in the final push of Ethiopian army, inside the Eritrean territory in southern region and western region, he called the then his Ambassador Haile Menkerios to inform the Security Council, that he accepted the the Algiers agreement, and the council rushed to make a meeting in a mid night. Remember he accepted after we gave thousands of our love ones. This time even, he will accept the call for dialogue with their counterpart after decimating the spirits of young and leaving our nation in droves. In both instances, he could have accepted the Algeirs agreement and and sit in a round table engagement, without all the destruction he made to our people and the future of our nation. Very sad in the history of our nation and our people.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Aman,

          I think Disqus (AT moderators) have a robot that screens links and kills it:)

          I know. Even when this whole thing started, the US / Rwanda proposal was a way out for the war. All he was asked to do was, for Eritrea to withdraw it’s troops but he refused, which was forced to do in the end at cost of thousands of lives.

          Berhe

    • Semere Tesfai

      ሰላም ሓያት

      እቲ ዝድለ ዘሎ ኣብ ሞንጎ ክልቲኡ ህዝቢ ፍቕርን ሕውነትን ንምምስራት እዩ። መምህር ሙሉወርቅ ኪዳነማርያም ‘ውን፡ ፍቕርን ሕውነትን ኣብ ሞንጎ ክልተ ጎረቤትን የሕዋትን ህዝቢ ንኽነግስ እዮም ሰናይ ምዕዶኦም ኣብቲ ቪድዩ ዘቕረብክዮ ዝልግሱልና ዘለዉ። ግርም ምዕዶ ድማ እዩ። ግን…….

      ፍቕርን ሕውነትን ተገሪህካ እዩ። ፍቕርን ሕውነትን ኣብ ግሩህ፡ ኣብ ዝኣመነ፡ ኣብ ጻዕዳ ልቢ ጥራሕ እዩ ዝርከብ። ግሩህ፡ ዝኣመነ፡ ጻዕዳ ልቢ ድማ – ኣብ ዘይተበደለን፡ ዘይተገፍዐን፡ በሰላ ዘይብሉን ኣእምሮ ጥራሕ እዩ ዝርከብ። ብሓቂ ይኹን ብጌጋ ኣይፈርጥን ‘የ – ግን፡ ንሕና ኤርትራውያን ገርሀኛታትን ኣመንቲ-ሰብን ኢና፡ ኢልና ኢና ንኣምን። ግን ንሱ ሓቂ ይኹን ኣይኹን ብዘየገድስ፡ ሓደ ታሪኻዊ ሓቂ ኣሎ፡

      ኣሚንና – ጃንሆይ ንመጀመርታ ግዚኡ ንኤርትራ ክእቱ ከሎ፡ ብዕንባባን፡ ብሳዕስዒትን፡ ብእልልታን፡ ብኸበሮን ተቐቢልናዮ፡፡ ኣብ 1974 ድማ ብኸመይ ተፋኒናዮ ትፈልጢ ኢኺ። እንደገናውን፡ ነቲ ኩሉ ዝሓለፈ ሓሳረ-መከራን፡ ደምን ምቕዘፍትን፡ ሰርቢ ቡንባን-ጥይትን፡ ምፍንቓልን ስደትን…… ኩሉ ብሓንቲ ለይቲ ረሲዕና፡ ንመለስ ዜናዊ ብዕንባባን፡ ብእልልታን፡ ብኸበሮን፡ ብሳዕስዒትን ተቐቢልናዮ። መለስ ዜናዊ ካብ ‘ዛ ሓሳዊት ዓለም ክፍለ ከሎ ካኣ፡ ንሕና ኤርትራውያንን ኢትዮጵያውያንን፡ ከም ጎረቤትን የሕዋትን ህዝቢ፡ ብኸመይ ኣፋኒናዮ ትፈልጢ ኢኺ።

      እሞ ሎሚ፡ ንሕና ኤርትራውያን ተተጠራጠርና፡ የኽፋእልና ድዩ? ሰብ፡ ክንደይ ግዜ እዩ ክግራህ ዘለዎ? ንሰብ፡ ክንደይ ግዜ ኢኻ ግዲ፡ እመነኒ እንዳበልካ ክትጠልሞ ትኽእል?

      ስለዚ ሓያት – ብቑስልን፡ ብስንብራትን፡ ብበሰላን ዝሓበጠት ልቢ፡ ፈውሲ የብላን ክትብል እኳ ጌጋ ‘ተኾነ፡ ንኽትፍወስ ግዜ ክም ዝወስድን፡ ተፈዊሳ ‘ውን ከም ቀደማ ከምዘትኸውንን ምፍላጥ፡ ብጣዕሚ ኣገዳሲ እዩ ‘መስለኒ። ካብ ‘ዚ እምነት ‘ዚ ነቒልና ኢና ኻኣ፡ መሰረት መጻኢ ናይ ሰላም ጉርብትናና ክንምስርት ዘለና።

      ሰመረ ተስፋይ

      • Paulos

        Selam Ato Semere Tesfai,

        First time to agree with you. Well said and God bless!

        • Saleh Johar

          Dear Paulos,
          Congratulations. Now that you bought your self a clean patriotism card by simply agreeing with Semere, the man in charge of distributing patriotism cards, could you be kind enough to buy one for the rest of victims who are ruled unpatriotic by the senior gatekeeper 🙂

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            That is really funny. Just checked the etiology and it says, in the Greek version, it was derived from a root word “Patris” which means “Fatherland.” And the Latin version says, it was derived from a root word “Patriota” which means, “Fellow Countrymen.”

            Not sure which version Ato Semere Tesfai had in mind when he owned a license to give or deny the card of Patriotism. If I have to guess, however, it could be a Chimera or a Caricature of Patriotism al’a PFDJ.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            We have been stripped our patriotism by Semere Tesfay and his likes since 1998, for supporting the US/Ruwand proposal, that calls the withdrawal of the Eritrean army from Badme, and to stop the drum of the senseless war. For them to send our young to a blood war was patriotism, while there was a peaceful way to the resolution of it. This is what I told them in the public meeting before the full fledged war started: “ሕጂ ንህዝብና ናብዚ ደማዊ ውግእ ትመርሕዎ አለኹም: አብ መወዳእታ ግን እቲ ዝኽፈል ተኸፊሉ እቲ ጉዳይ አብ ጣውላ ዘተ ጥራይ እዩ መዕረፊ ዝረክብ::” And that is what it happened. We were ostracized for objecting the war and we are stripped our patriotism since then.

          • @george

            Dear aman
            Not only you are wrong seems like you are just living in another planet. PIAA is on the record pleading begging your TPLF. The internet off full of videos to give interviews to both domestic and international media articulating itemizing all the events leading up to the war. It is the Ethiopian government that declare war when they didn’t have to. Tplf, fought at 5 weeks non-stop War at ASSAB, what does that tell you? Why do you do yourself into thinking that others are clueless. Please know your audience people are not. Clueless people know what happened you just make up stories that have no factual basis. There are multiple players in this war it wasn’t just the Ethiopian government. Do not forget the United States government was an active player in this war against Eritrea. Again that is openly found sources that indicate my comment. You cannot just tell people you care for Eritrea when your are openly defending an aggressor country. If anything tplf have shown to be very cruel and short-sighted there’s nothing that will prove this done what they did in the last 16 years.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear George,

            Brother, the arrogance of your leader costed us a colossal of Eritrean lives and resources by throwing us in to a senseless war. It is his objection to the US/Rwanda proposal to withdraw from Badme and his refusal to the mediation of international community that lead us to that barbaric border war. History is on record. You can’t defend this criminal despot.

      • Hope

        Selam Semiruley Tesfay:
        It was “funny” that your Article that I suggested to be re-posted here at awate.com popped up at TN.Com.

  • Aron

    Hi saay,
    Well written and it brought back all past memories with it. How soon some of us forget things. Specially the very harmful and traumatic deportations. War is horrible. I hope both govt will allow the most affected people / communities in the border some kind of room for adjustments.
    Aron

  • said

    Greetings,

    Ethiopia’ economic challenge and Ethiopia’s peace overture to Eritrea

    Ethiopia’s is being facing foreign currency shortage and many financial challenge. Ethiopia’s government and it has signalled its intention to open up the state-dominated economy announcing that it will privatise some of its prized assets, including the crown Ethiopian Airlines and the Ethiopia’s government owned monopoly Ethio Telecom. In an apparent admission that state-led development is struggling to deliver quality services and reaching out , the authoritarian Marxist Ethiopian regime’s three-decade grip on power. Failed policy were obvious the ruling Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front , is signally for free market in selling minority shares and partial privatisation of state-owned entities was to solve shortage hard currency the nation’s foreign currency challenge is being obvious for some time , partial privatisation increase income generation, at the very least to will alleviate the cost of living problems and solve good governance issue. of his predecessor after two years of deadly anti-government protests threatened three-decade grip on power. PMAA had little choice but to abandon the EPRDF’s failed Marxist economic policy that was deeply rooted by TPLF ,economic ,financial and deep social pressures mount ,in order to survive EPRDF its existential entity . They have to adapt their economy to have one that’s fit for purpose, that can absorb the millions of young, unemployed people and ensure an equitable distribution of wealth. The by go era Marxist TPLF model was just not doing any more miracle staring at very lowest economic base
    The government is now grappling with a severe foreign exchange shortage, According to Mr. Fitsum Agera, Mr Abiy’s chief of staff, said late on Tuesday the privatisation plans were part of an “an effort to boost and modernise the Ethiopian economy”.$232mEthiopian Airlines’ profit in the last financial year, the largest of any African carrier“The governing party has agreed for stake sales/mixed ownership in state-owned enterprises in energy, telecom, logistics and aviation sectors while preserving the dominant role for the state,” Mr Fitsum said on social media. He added that “mixed ownership” or “outright full privatisation” in other sectors, including railways, sugar, industrial parks and hotels would also happen. Ethiopia’s economy has grown at more than 10 per cent annually over the past decade but stating point of lowest economic base which is not much to brag about if your income increase from 2 dollar per to dollar 4 a day in ten year , you still a very poor nation , mixed ownership” or “outright full privatization will do it by it self, Ethiopian economy driven mostly by government-led, debt-financed spending on massive infrastructure projects from dams to roads and railways. The government has also developed a nationwide network of industrial parks to establish a low-wage apparel industry .The strategy has delivered some successes, such as attracting dozens of foreign textile manufacturers that have employed tens of thousands of people. Open policy and free market Ethiopia has a long way to go along with rule of law. But foreign institutions are banned from operating in financial services, telecoms and retail as the government wants to protect the sectors and use the profits of state monopolies to finance infrastructure projects.

    By now Ethiopia’s prime minister Abiy Ahmed deserve credit and he has been busy announcing and steamrollering through policy change .He has released thousands of political prisoners. He has called an end to the state of emergency imposed in a bid to crush anti-government protests, and he has pledged more broadly to lift the repression that has kept opposition to the ruling Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front in check for years. The most important PMAAA is looking for peace and neighbourly harmony .Perhaps more importantly he has offered an olive branch to state of Eritrea. The two nation took up arms, a trench war over border scrublands that killed very sadly and foolishly more than 100,000 young soldiers. As part of a 2000 peace agreement the two sides pledged to abide by international arbitration on their disputed border and a supposedly binding ruling was delivered in 2002. This found the flashpoint town of Badme, occupied by Ethiopian troops, to be on Eritrea’s side. Even those many Eritrean do not agree and accept dictator Isaias Afwerki, .but Ever since, Ethiopia has flouted the ruling. Worse, the guarantors of peace, the UN, African Union, EU and US all shrugged shoulders and neglected to hold the Ethiopian government to its commitments. In effect, they chose convenience over the law, and sided with the more powerful regional actor Ethiopia at a time Eritrea, dictator Isaias Afwerki, made a pariah nation . PMAA His appointment was recognition that the authoritarian development model that Ethiopia has pursued successfully for a quarter century has run up against its limits. So too is the decisive break with past repression that he has made in recent months, and his pledge to implement the 2000 peace deal with Eritrea in full and roll the troops back from Badme. It anfortunate in todays time ,that ten Thousands of Ethiopian soldiers lost their lives in the battle to take the sleepy insignificant town, which has no great national resource and zero strategic value. Giving it up would be to recognise the futility of that war and of the protracted hostilities that have followed. But it is essential, if there is to be peace with Eritrea, that PMAA should simply follows up quickly on his declaration and his pledge for peace and open for new era . The border dispute has hurt Eritrea and pronlged the life of dictator Isaias Afwerki, war was costly in human lives and resources non of the two nation can hardly afford and deeply destabilised the two nation, as often dictator Isaias Afwerki, is always sceptical about Ethiopia’s peace overture. PMAA should let Ethiopian troops leave and celebrate for his peace overture and let the world see they have actually left. PMAA act his promise, the ball will be in dictator Isaias Afwerki, court. The border dispute has kept Eritrea no peace and no war and country kept on a permanent war footing. IA has used it to justify the open-ended military service imposed on Eritreans, which in turn has seen hundreds of thousands fleeing in search of opportunity elsewhere. The war created Eritrean refugee to leave their beloved country ,their horrible experiences is well documented over 50 years and still on going ,we are all refugee one way or another living in diaspora , what you already know and discover is that Eritrean people who almost uniformly have suffered terribly in trying to escape the country they were fleeing from and then trying to get to the countries that they want to go to. In the case of Eritrean population that we’re talking about, the refugee experience was horrendous. Many, many lives were lost. Many terrible things happened to the people who were trying to flee is just one part. because it makes you more caring and empathetic. It makes you feel for these new Eritrean refugees and what they’re going through. Some former tiny in number Eritrean refugees out there are saying in western nation , We’re the good Eritrean refugees, we made it at the helm . We deserve to be here. All these new people from Eritrean, , they’re the bad refugees. They’re different. We’ve got to close the door on these people. This terribly I think that’s fundamentally wrong. What happens if we don’t get involved in an aid organization and donate money to help Eritrean newly arrived ? you ask many good question ,the very least we can do is .What happens if we don’t call our elected officials and tell about Eritrean refugees,? What happens if we don’t march in the streets ,Eritrean refugees will pay the price ,? What happens if we don’t take action? Eritrean refugees will forgetting , I think that’s the danger . As much as it awakens our feelings, it can also lull us into a sense of complacency that we’ve already done something simply by not doing anything about Eritrean refugees ,someone’s we know are in terrible situation minority Eritrean refugees are marginalized community. our nation is dominated by attitudes and modes of living that deny justice and prohibit freedom. It is unjust that millions of Eritreans live in dyer situation ; it is unjust that the quality of a child’s education is dependent upon regime wimp ,it is unjust that access to health care is determined by one’s ability to pay for it, if you find one at that . The collective shame of injustice must be cleansed from our country and trust inculcated. Like many of our problems the key to creating a just society lies in the encouragement of sharing. In various areas of life, sharing is beginning to fashion the way things are done:

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Beyan,

    Where is Haile-TG by the way? We miss him, unless Haile-TG = Haile-S

    • Haile S.

      Selam Emma,

      I wish I was the eloquant Haile-HG. Thank you for the compliment, though. His verbes and vibes are among the rarest. ኣዛሪቦም የዛርቡኻ፡ ኣጥይምና ኢሎም ኣመንዝራ ይብሉኻ፡ ከምዝብሃል ከተዛርበኒ ድ’ኣ ደሊኻ፡ ኣማኑኤል ሓወይ! Lately my speciality has become diversion from subject, so let me voluntarily do it today, taking you to languages and expressions. What do you call a Capon (castrated cockerel, እእም yami) in tigrigna? ኣብረሀት ኣፍኪ ሓዚ፡ ጊዜ ሃብዮም ንኹሎም።

      • Saleh Johar

        Hello All,
        I have a news, from the grapevine. HaileG was in jail and was released recently… he is rumored to have escaped (Sgredob) and once he reaches a place with an Internet connection, we might hear from him. Soon. Right HaileG?

        • Tzigereda

          Dear Saleh,
          Thank you for the good news, I was thinking about him this week. እንቋዕ ብሰላም ወጸ!

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Brother SGL

          Wow !!! good news so we will have two very professional Hailes soon (HaileS and HaileG ).

          KS,,

        • MS

          Ahlan Saleh
          Great to hear that, I’m sure we will have a “WARMER SUMMER” with HaileTG, now that he has lost some weight in the prison and gained some insightful accounts.

        • Abi

          Ato Saleh
          You got a wrong news. Haile TG was at a hospital fixing his broken nose. Nitricc is responsible.

          • Saleh Johar

            Abi,
            I also heard that but ruled it out 🙂

        • Paulos

          Selam Ayay,

          That is a great news. I miss the talented Haile TG. Hope he is well.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,

        We don’t have castrate cockerel. So I don’t know it, and I left it for you to teach us.

        • Haile S.

          Hi Emma,
          Let me first allow Abrehet to remove her hand from her mouth and speak. Sorry for the ‘torture’ Abrehet.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Aya Haile,
            The Eritrean generals.

          • Haile S.

            ኣብረሀት ሓውተይ፡
            ኦኦ፡ ኣነ ነገር ጸጊበ እየ። እምበርከስ ጕንድል እዩ ዝብሃል። ንኹሉ ዓይነት ተባዕታይ እንስሳ ኣቕሕኡ ተቖሪጹ ዝወጸ ዝገልጽ ቃል እዩ።

          • Abrehet Yosief

            ኣያይ መዓረይ
            ትጉሽተተይ። I couldnt resist the temptation.

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    I hope the Heir of the Throne of Dedebit, her Majesty Princess Hayat Adem is wrong on her take regarding the recent peace intonations that it will go no were as she was wrong about the election of PMAA. But am not holding my breath for HA to be wrong.

    Some Eritreans and smart ones at that are so excited about the prospects of Eritrea when the borders finally get demarcated. But I hope everyone ponders what this will mean for Eritrea, not for Eritrea the Gash and the Buddiho or Homib but for Eritrea that matters: the people, the incarcerated, the widowed, the raped, the poor, the huddled, the 500,000 stranded in Sudan with no where to go, the children who heard so much about the heroism of Eritreans and wondered about the country that they cannot return to, where their fathers could not be burred in, the country that they are not allowed to withdraw their hard earned money from its bank, the country that wants you to die for it but it does not tell your loved ones where your remains are.

    Let say HA is wrong and that PMAA pulls this through and Badme returns to Eritreans after 37 years of Tegray occupation and the settles reminiscent to a Biblical prophesy return home, but in this case without heir volition, without their Moses. TPLF will be exposed and they know it, they are between a hard place and a rock and rationality is rare during such times, only great men and women squeeze greatness from such no great times. PFDJ will be exposed and vulnerable. What will it do? When will it start to demobilize the poor Sawa recruits, what will it do to the disappeared, will PFDJ muster courage and face the Eritrean people and find the biggest rock and bow for forgiveness, or will they pursue both their self-serving and self-destructing MO? TPLF memembers like Seyoum Mesfun have held meetings and profusely apologized to the people and imagine the crimes that TPLF committed on their people pales with what PFDJ did and still is doing to the Eritrean people, you would think they are hell bent in making us extinct.

    If the victim of our region and our countries, PEACE wins, Badme is “liberated” and bilateral relations resume with PFDJ again going to bed with Ethiopia, returning to their whorish politics at the expense of the windows, the martyred, the disappeared, the Ela-Ela victims then Eritreans should really mourn this event and not celebrate it
    Giving the circumstance, given their post traumatic stress, given their struggle to “free” Eritrea, I am willing to allow PFDJ and IA and even the supporters that I called blind, myopic, retards and all adjectives that terrifies my friends here, I am willing to give them slack, I will use the lowest standard for PFDJ and here it is and it will have solved 85% of our problems.
    Immediately after the bordered is demarcate: (Pray, fast, do Daewa for HA to be wrong)
    1. Release every single political and religious prisoner before the ink dries
    2. Account for the dead and own it, even those you have murdered. This is bravery at its pinnacle
    3. Unconditionally lift the ban on all national opposition groups
    4. Immediately implement the const. We feel your pain: you are tired and old and senil so we do not want to burden you with writing a new one, we know what metal power this requires. Use Dr. Bereket’s Const. if its is shredded, we have a copy

    Tab is included to accomedate a Yankee who thinks Canadians live in Igloos and know every Lucy and Leo in California;-)

    • Ismail AA

      Dear brother iSem,

      I dare say I wouldn’t have written what you have written any better. Prospects of peace should be celebrated when the dividends appear to be real. I understand your point that trusting benefits of peace after costly war in blood and bones to whims of a dictator and his system is wishful dream. Government to government deals end at at the point where each side gets the possible minimum and part off. The fate of how peace in real time would translate in respective countries is left to prerogative of former protagonist. Thus, as you eloquently put it, benefits of peace should be reasonably foreseen before they are prematurely heralded.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear open minded iSem,

      Thank you for your breath holding..I think by now she( Queen) got what is correct..I think everyone has his own clear brain to judge..

      KS,,

    • halafi mengedi

      iSem,

      Recently, i learned a lot by scanning many social media accounts with good following on Eritrean and Ethiopian/Tigray side. There wasn’t a lot of ill-will, but I observed a huge amount of grudge and indignation on both sides. Also, it seems to me, there is weird obsession with land on both sides. My conclusion was that, in the absence of clear border demarcation, any misunderstanding will lead to war. If borders are demarcated, there is a chance other problems could be resolved without going to war. I understand what you mean when you said border demarcation may not lead to changes in Eritrea. But, for the sake of people in both countries, let the border be demarcated and lets move on to the next chapter.

      hm

  • Kaddis

    Dear Saay – reads amazing,

    I didn’t have much to say until I read an equaly excellent editorial today by AddisStandard – titled – POST-PROJECT X FOR ETHIOPIA AND ERITREA: HOW TO MOVE FROM CONTAINMENT TO DÉTENTE.

    I found the premises ( the first paras ) well written and recognise the changes of Eritrea’s position in the region. Maybe specifics of the excellent job by the Atlantic council and the significance of the Gulf influence is missing. I am very ignorant on the Agazian movement.

    Worth reading.
    Cheers,

    PS. AddisStandard started as a horn focused ( even Africa ) outlet but end up being an Oromo activist/ opposition media. It looks like it now feels compeled to look professional due to an Oromo leader on the top. ( part sarcasim )

    • Amde

      Selam Kaddis,

      Excellent piece. Wish we knew who the author(s) are. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

      Amde

      • Kaddis

        Selam Amde,

        The editor in chief is Tsedale Lemma. She is a regular on Aljazeera (why? a topic of its own ) But this piece sounds very refined in foreign policy, Int’l relation terms.
        Cheers,

        • saay7

          Kaddis:

          So, before I get to the meat of the article at Addisstandard, I just want to make an observation that may explain why PM Abiye was dangerously close to (or actually) plagiarizing. What’s up with all the quotes, without attributing whom they are quoting? Is this like normal Addis prose?

          saay

        • Amde

          Hi Kaddis,

          Yes I have heard her before. She is very smart. But this piece reads like something a foreign policy professional would write.

          It is funny. For years I thought Addis Fortune had the inside scoop on EPRDF and it was obvious their sources were very OPDO skewed. Addis Tribune was on the outside, very much an Oromo protest/Qerro advocate. Today, Addis Fortune comes out with an unflattering piece about Abiy and Addis Standard comes out with something that looks authored at Foggy Bottom (which is the nickname for the US state department HQ in Washington).

          Amde

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde,

            Judging by the last statement, I am sure Tsedal has a lot to do with the editorial. I have seen here make very similar statements on twitter before.

            hm

    • saay7

      Kaddis, selamat:

      So what you are saying is that for addisstandard pursued the ሁሉም ነገር ውደ ጦር ግንባር when its peeps were marginalized but now that they are in power it has rediscovered its mission? Sounds normal to me, and its something oppressors don’t understand: how they radicalize their citizens. I know somebody who used to dismiss them as “OLF remnants” whenever they “spit da truth” he didn’t like but now that his views are aligned with them, he says they are great writers/journos.

      Will check it out; thanks for the heads-up!

      saay

    • Ismail AA

      Selam kaddis,

      Thanks for the tip. The stuff is well written. The writer(s) [AS] notably sound like diplomacy and international relations savvy persons sitting on wealth of information in custody of strategic studies think tank project. The background information is refreshing and composed with worthy expertise. Given the timelines and relevance of the article, I wonder whether one should not suspect the author(s) could have had a wink from well place in the ranks of officialdom in Addis Ababa. I think one of the beneficiaries of the substance could be the regime in Asmara. It is bonus survey on how things might move on in case the matter progresses or stalls again, or unforeseen developments arise in either way.

      • Kaddis

        Selam Ismail,

        True, the piece has a tone of writing with or for ‘authority ‘. That’s why I was a bit surprised to sense ‘the burden of responsibility ‘ towards government actions. Their foreign policy terminologies are on point as well .

        Eid Mubarak, እስከ ጁመአ ካልተገናፕን

        • Ismail AA

          ሰልም ከኣዲስ።
          እንኳን ኣብሮ ኣደረሰን። እሻኣ ኣላህ የሰላምና የጤና ዘመን ቡሽራ ይዞ ይምጣልን።

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Kaddis,

      The Editorial of “Addis Standard “ of 6/12/2018, agree/disagree is an impressive analysis on the “containment” vs “d’etente” alluding that the “no war no peace” was the strategy of containment of Ethiopia against Eritrea. Agree/disagree the editorial must be read by Eritrean and Ethiopians in order to understand the prospect of peace between the two countries. Thank you Kaddis.

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/addisstandard.com/editorial-post-project-x-for-ethiopia-and-eritrea-how-to-move-from-containment-to-detente/amp/

      Regards

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Sister Kaddis,

      You will not find any single guy smarter than Saay7 ..All over horn…

      KS,,

      • Mitiku Melesse

        I thought so!

  • Amde

    Good Morning Awatistas,

    Latest Addis Fortune Fineline column seems to echo Hayat’s concerns. Talks about bankers freaked out by Abiy’s casualness, And the fecklessness of the men in EPRDF central while some of the women are away. Not good.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Gash Amde,

      Thanks for sharing the Addis Fortune’s Fineline column.
      This may signal as a kind of yellow light on the road for Dr. Abij and his team, which they should stop and rethink their steps. Crises in the economy at this stage could spoil their speeded up reforms in other crucial areas which appear to have been going without noticeable hurdles. One of them is replacements at the top the army brass as well as the security apparatus.

      Dr.Abij would do better if he would let the public and the corridors of power digest the measure already taken. Crises in the economy and preoccupation there could render the Eritrea-Ethiopia policy turn around to become Dr. Abij’s Achilles heel.

  • Hasot

    Hi all
    The real Saay just brought his swagger which he left it beside Susan Rice to finish the game

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear all,
    it is always good to read Saay on any subject. His pen has never been dull. It doesn’t mean he is always honest and balanced though. For example, this chronicling article says nothing on how the war started and who did what then (PFDJ started it by invading a neighboring and friendly nation); nothing on the US-Djibouti-Rwanda proposal and who accepted and rejected it (Ethiopia accepted and PFDJ rejected it); nothing on the initial rejections of the framework agreement and modalities (Eritrea rejected them or IA was asking endlessly qiTnni Ebdit questions like how do you whether is a place called Badime or if there is where the location of Badime is). It was only after the defeat at Badime he accepted the FA and the Mods. If only our memory is reactivated, there was a four-word little phrase that got us in to the devastating 3rd offensive where more stunning waves destruction on lives and properties took place. That phrase was “Badime and its environs”. IA agreed he would withdraw from Badime and its environs after the fact (after he was dislodged from Badime). Then he was also asked from other areas in Ethiopian territory he later encroached into as war progressed (Zalambessa, Alitena, BureBada etc). IA refused claiming the proposal says only from “Badime and its environs”. PMMZ had registered a clarification earlier saying that the phrase should mean all new territories occupied since May 1998. IA stood his ground and said “jug it! nope!” to the call to withdraw his forces from Zalanbessa-Alitena-Burebada. That was why we had to experience the 3rd offensive after which as usual he had to call sleeping friends to tell them that “okay, okay, I will accept everything”. That was how APA came about to be known.
    Well, Saay had been a different person then and who is totally immune of nostalgia.
    ———
    Regarding this fresh move from the 3A’s EPRDF, i advise people not to be over excited about it. It is not about it being good for one or being bad for the other side. It is not going anywhere as usual. The ball has always been with IA. He has always been not interested in playing it for a very calculative reason on his part. By now we should all know IA cannot be interested in any normal peace deal or normalization. He is interested in himself and that self is safer with the status quo. He will not do it unless he is fully confident that he can also control and run the narrative that follows. With this one, he can’t. And that is even if all Ethiopians okay-ed it (i think there is much mass protest on their side as well). So, the proposal will meet a deaf ear as usual. Some folks of this side are fan-faring for nothing or worse. If APA (which is null and void long ago by my book) was to be accepted and implemented; if the EEBC boundary was to accepted and implemented; we will still have the cruel dictator IA a net loss of land to Ethiopia. For Ethiopia, they will give Badime and still have the anti-peace Isayass breathing on their neck. Ethiopia could have done it in a much better and effective way and bring the two peoples into the needed not just the basic peace but to normalization and an enviable sisterhood. Ethiopia: come with something else!
    Hayat

    • saay7

      Selamat Hayat:

      Nice to see you back and firing on all pistons. Abi, your former subject (he has a new king now) was worried but he need not have.

      Now on this narration, the question is always how far do you go back. It feels like the Israeli Palestinian feud where the Palestinians want to go to 1948 and the Israelis want to go to Biblical times to settle a dispute (and they can’t.) So for me the beginning point was the Algiers Ageeement (because a lot of people think the EEBC is a stand-alone document), and then I was trying to put that one in context: why did Ethiopia reject it. And my answer was, it has a history of doing so: actually agreeing in advance to something and then when the bill arrives to refuse to pay for it.

      Your emphasis is different and you have made it well: that Isaias Afwerki tends to make wrong decisions and he makes them way after the deadline and when that passes he takes the exact same he was offered except he had cost Eritrea a lot by that time. Very valid point. In fact, if you were trying to make the case why did Isaias Afwerki reverse course on Somalia after he had gotten Eritrean sanctioned, what you narrated above is apropos and on point.

      Where my point (The TPLF-led government of Ethiopia has a pattern of breaking its word) and yours (the Isaias-led gov of Eritrea has a history of turning down good deals only to beg for them later) converge is now. I am saying that the change in government in Ethiopia changes one of the dynamics, enough to be hopeful about it; and you are saying the lack of change in Eritrea ensures that nothing will change, so don’t get your hopes up too high. I think reasonable people can hold either position.

      I did notice sadly that the TPLF is no longer just misrepresenting what the Algiers Ageeement says (“it doesn’t tell us to vacate Badme” when it clearly does) and publicizing the demonstrations of 10s of thousands of “residents of Badme and environs” (my, It has grown) and essentially calling the EPRDF, of whom it’s a member, wrong. It’s not enough that it fought with the Eritrean government, fought with the EEBC, now it’s going to fight with the EPRDF. All to avoiding facing up to the fact that it has been hiding what the Algiers Agreement says. By the way, was that document ever translated in Tigrinya? I think it, and the EEBC document, should be so the people of Tigray can see for themselves how their front has been lying to them for 18 years. I have a dandidate in mind: someone fluent in English and Tigrinya. What do you think Hayat?

      saay

      • Hayat Adem

        Haha Saay:
        “I have a candidate in mind: someone fluent in English and Tigrinya. What do you think Hayat?”
        You are good at everything including satirizing. But satire is not good when our people are on a knife edge:).

        • saay7

          Hayat:

          I was serious. Why isn’t there a Tigrinya version of the Algiers Agreement or the Eritrea Ethiopia Boundary Commission ruling ? I mean not in a library, as research but sold with pulp fiction? The reason is because the TPLF always knew that if the people knew what it signed (the terms it agreed to) they would rebel against it. So now, 18 years later, it is still lying about it, for the same reason: fear of the Tigray people. Otherwise, when it says the agreement calls for dialogue, give-and-take, etc, a Tigrayan would say, “where? which page?”

          So, I was serious: do these two documents exist in Tigrinya or Amharic anywhere in Ethiopia. Kaddis? Amde? Bueller?

          saay

          • halafi mengedi

            Saay,

            I think there is an amharic version. Something i learned the past few days, apparently the Ethiopian parliament has actually ratified/approved(?) the algeries agreement and i saw the documents referring to that (along with translation of the agreement in amharic) making rounds on social media. My amharic is tenuous, so I may have misunderstood the documents, jfy.

            hm

          • Amde

            Selam hm,

            That one is supposed to have been approved by the Ethio parliament BEFORE it was actually signed.

            Just one of the many mini-dramas.

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah (Saay)

            Does the Algeirs agreement exist in tigrigna version in Eritrea? I haven’t clue about it, whether we have it in Eritrea. If it does how will I get it?

          • saay7

            Emma:

            I don’t know; maybe young Samuel Emaha can tell us? I do think it is very important that it be translated and read (with a particular audience of Tigrayans in mind) on radio because TPLF has been misrepresenting the document to Tigrayans and getting away with it.

            Oh, wait. I think we should have a team of Eritreans and Ethiopians work on it because, otherwise, there will be two translations*. I am recommending Fanti and Mahmoud.

            saay

            PS: From those bad old days I remember this from UNMEE: “Secretary-General Djinnit stressed that only the French text of the documents concerned was authentic. This raised a possible difference in meaning concerning the phrase “consolidated technical arrangements”, which in English is preceded in most instances by the word “the”, but in French by the word “des”.

            The “consolidated technical arrangements” was something Susan Rice and Meles were working on after they told Eritrea the Technical Arrangements were final. Then they said, hey, we will just add the word “consolidated” to the document–it sure sounds nice–and revise it. Nobody will be the wiser. But then Meles got tired of paperwork and said war! (sorry Hayat, I got carried away:)

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Hayat Adem,

      I appreciate your bold and factual comment to insert the missing facts in saay’s article. Your picture is more complete and lifelike. I was a witness from a distance.
      I didn’t forget the fact that saay was actually more of a participant than a reporter or commentator.

      Changing the lane a bit, I haven’t bought into your other posts and comments that PMAA is a light weight and not worthy of leading Ethiopia.
      I am of the opinion that a severely hot potato was handed to him and he is dealing with it. Politics being what it is the result will be what will convince me of his talents. It does not mean that I am not apprehensive.
      I will confess to you that at the beginning I thought of Meles as an evil man. The results of his decisions convinced me of the opposite.

      Mr. K.H

    • Beyan

      Selam Hayat Adem,

      I second Kim Hanna’s motion for giving those of us who are not well informed the necessary ingredients that would inform our understanding of the genesis that led to the Algiers agreement. You eloquently captured the behavioral pattern of the tyrant at home in that he only capitulates and throws in the white towel to prolong his survival.

      Your assessment of the man is right on target. If the question of his survival is questionable after an unpredictable event like war with an unintended consequences like the Badme war, he does what it takes to ensure he is annihilated along with the defeat. Indeed, who would forget the statement he made even if the sun were to set from the east and ( I suppose to rise from the west) he would no retreat from the territory. For some nine month he stood his ground. He went and visited the territory, the well entrenched, impenetrable trench he thought. Sure enough when Ethiopia not punctured it but went in 25 KM into Eritrea’s territory, when the noose was gripped his neck tightly is when he capitulated and threw in that white towel for peace.

      Ethiopia’s failure to go all the way in and dislodging the man from the helm was akin to what the US did in the first Iraq war with Bush senior. Because it was left unfinished the US had to go back several years later to unseat the tyrant Saddam from power. If this man is going to come to the negotiating table with Ethiopia, the new PMAA’s government must make it clear that if he doesn’t come to the negotiating table, he will face the wrath of Ethiopia’s air-power reminiscent of 18 years back that left the man alienated, isolated, and incompetent to the core, who turned inward and has become an existential threat not only to his own people but to the entire region. So, that threat needs to loom if he is going to come and accept the olive branch being extended to him by PMAA is all what I am saying here. Ethiopia needs to be serious about the stick and the carrot approach. Accept it and come to the table or else we are coming after you exactly like that of Saddam and like that of his friend Qaddafi – The language of threat and a real noose on the man’s neck is the only reason he would come to the negotiating table. He is a coward. He will choose – yet again – survival over potential force that he knows he is not equipped to counter.

      Beyan

      • MS

        First, I want to make sure you have written this rejoinder

        without Hayat’s pistol on your head.

        OK, then, I am glad you are safe. Few points my friend

        Beyan:

        1. Please remember that thousands brave Eritreans died defending that front. IA was not manning it but the best of Eritrea’s sons and daughters. Those who perished defending that front were Eritrean brave men and women, not IA. Eritrean defense forces put up tough resistance against waves of Ethiopian offensives, something TPLF leaders had acknowledged. Changing territory for minimizing losses had been something Eritreans had been doing for decades. Anyway, please separate your hate of IA and the role of those brave men and women. TPLF leaders did what they could until the eleventh hour. They could topple the government, and worse, they knew Eritrean Defense Forces were intact. They were worried of a counter offensive, my friend. Much could be said about each battle of the war, each engagement had its unique explanation but this is not the place for that, and I don’t want to go through that terrible period of our history again. But remember, you are talking about the lives of thousands and their families.

        2. It’s beyond my belief that you wish Ethiopia occupied Eritrea.

        3. And worse yet that you still want it to threaten with the use of force.

        4. Another disturbing point is that you seem to ignore the fact that Eritrea had accepted the AA and its full implementation and has been calling on Ethiopia and the international community to come to their senses.

        5. The current wobbling dance of TPLF shows you it is not serious to finalize the border demarcation. Eritrea has been consistent and credible when it to comes to abiding by agreements it had signed concerning border disputes. So, I believe the carrot and stick should be applied on TPLF to stick to what it had said in the EPRDF EC statement because, remember, it was part of the EC that had annou8nced Ethiopia’s acceptance of AA and its readiness to fully implement it. Now, TPLF acts as if it was caught off guard!!

        6. I don’t know what Eritrean authorities could say more than they have said concerning the fracture within EPRDF concerning this matter.
        Anyway, selam and wish you a good day
        Hayat makes you guys lose your bearings.

        • Beyan

          Kbur Haw Tegadaly-neber Mahmoud Saleh,

          Good reasoned rejoinders are far more effective than guns and roses, if you will, to convince and not confuse. HA’s entry was nothing short of that – but I get your humor and it’s well in its place.

          Jokes aside, love and hate emanate from the same emotional space of the recess of one’s heart. So, the same hate that you think is blinding my viewpoint could be countered with its opposite: Your love for the country is blinding you to see the forest for the tree. What you and thousands more like you – brave souls did – for Eritrea nobody can take away: It was patriotic to the core. What Eritreans did when they were called to defend their nascent nation between 1998 and 2000 was nothing short of patriotic, & heroic. Didn’t the students of Asmara University of the time say that they weren’t going to remain in school while their nation was in danger of being robbed blind? That kind of patriotism to one’s country, toward one’s population, is well placed, it is cemented in our short history as a nation-state.

          What worries me is of those who take a refuge in patriotism when they should resort to reason. What worries me is the kind of a tyrant we have who uses “patriotism…[as] the last refuge of a scoundrel”. He is a scoundrel and a good snake oil salesman who sold Eritreans poison that has unraveled the worst in us. A scoundrel will use Tigrayan people as his boogie men to stay in power if he has to. The false patriotism that spews from the PFDJ-land is nothing but a refuge for these handful scoundrels. There is nothing these thugs can say that will make me say they are patriots like I can say you and thousands more like you were and are, have been and continue to be, because you cared and continue to care about Eritrea and its people just the same way that the young Eritrean men and women were when they went to the battlefield to protect the sovereignty of the nascent nation.

          But, subsequent to that two-year war, these young men and young women were the ones who were hunted down to a point of where the country is left empty of its vibrant part of the society – the young and the fountain of youth has but dried up.

          And you are going to sing me your patriotic song, Mahmoud. C’mmon, you can do better than that. Look, you and thousands like you paid dearly for the nation are residing in diaspora instead of enjoying the fruits of your labor. That right tells and gives an accurate picture of the nation that is bleeding and dying slowly. Instead of making something constructive in honor of your comrades who fell for the nation, whose blood and bones are covering the entire country, you are living abroad lamenting for the dawning as those of us who left it before independence did.

          Respectfully,
          Beyan

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Beyan,

            In a nation that demands conformity, you will hear warnings and intimidating remarks. So do not be intimidated talk what your conscience you about what is right or wrong. Otherwise you will feel guilty to your conscience throughout the remaining of your life. There is nothing in this world that gives you satisfaction than to be “ንጉስ ነብስኻ”. Do not allow your thoughts to be dictated by others.

          • Beyan

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            I frankly don’t give a hoot what the intention was for re-quoting the entire piece other than seeing it a waste of awate.com space and an impish behavior – perhaps – from someone who believes all Eritreans should be like minded on every conceivable subject matter, which is what has gotten us to where we are today, anyway. So, freedom to think freely is a mark of a sovereign citizenship. I maybe naive or my radar does not detect a toothlessly veiled threats, if that was the intention it failed miserably.

            Many thanks Aman for discerning a veiled threat where I didn’t. I just can’t believe people could still have the kind of mindset that you are alluding to, Aman. At any rate, the man has the capacity to argue and counter argue ideas effectively when he is in the mood. I may not agree with his viewpoints, but I would never attempt to even give a hint of a threat for anyone to think independently. Let me end my brief thought with Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1868-1956) who captured the essence of what it means to be a free thinker. She famously said, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. Alas, in Eritrea’s case it is more like If “I disapprove of what you say…I will [NOT ONLY NEVER] defend you”, but I will make sure to the hastening of your demise by any means necessary.

            Cheers,
            Beyan

          • MS

            Selam Beyan
            Please communicate with me just as Mahmud. I’m living in the diaspora next to you, our remote past should not have any relevance to the point we are discussing. You have every right to express your views about me, and that’s not the point. The point is about a rejoinder that you placed in this forum where you expressed that Ethiopia should threaten the use of force, and actually, should have invaded Eritrea and toppled the Eritrean government during the last war. I hoped you would do some revision, you did not. That means you are fine with foreign intervention. That’s my understanding.
            Please don’t repeat terms such as patriotism, jingoism, etc., as some do because that’s just way below what I expect from you. We don’t need to label each other year after year. our words are out there and they speak for themselves.
            Lastly, a point I wanted to include was this: at this stage, we are talking about how Eritrea and Ethiopia handled a verdict the EEBC had handed down. How IA acted prior and during the war is irrelevant. Those issues may come up when and if the commission that espoused to investigate the root cause of the war is formed.
            Thank you.

          • Beyan

            Selam Mahmoud,

            Duly noted. I shall refrain from using any superlatives preceding your name.

            Beyan

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Dr. Beyan,

            Correct .

            ” I shall refrain from using any superlatives preceding your name.”

            KS,,

          • Hayat Adem

            Dearest Beyan,
            Thanks for what you dedicated for me and others. I don’t dare to tell you anything. And I know you are overly generous with me. You made me feel I said something worthy while I look up to you.
            You are getting the heat because you said your mind. Someone was daring enough to tell you stuff in the name of Eritrea. Another kind of said to you ” I am watching; I am keeping records of what you said.” Interesting.

      • sara

        Dear Beyan,
        Ethiopia needs to be serious about the stick and the carrot approach. Accept it and come to the table or else we are coming after you exactly like that of Saddam and like that of his friend Qaddafi—-
        your qualms with PIA is understandable, but saying the above you are promoting another invasion by Ethiopia where many young have died defending Eritrea.
        Dr beyan , have you participated in the independence war?, or on the last war defending the country…. do you have families who died on those wars…
        do you have friends who died on those wars…have you ever seen an eritrean martyr… on a death bed… after heroically defending his country? have you seen an Eritrean without two legs or one hand … one eye… do you know young Eritreans without parents… because they died in the war…
        do you know parents who do not have children to support them because they died in the wars..do you know Eritreans who are internaly displaced
        because of the last war and until now they couldn’t return to their homes,
        do you know how many civilians died in both wars… do you know haw many people became refugees because of the war…. i can go on and on
        ask you so many things about the wars we had and its consequences that
        i suspect some of our people have not scant of it…
        Dr Beyan, its ramadan… and i understand the pressure…

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam sara

          sara Eukhti you got it all wrong!

          Al-Muhterm Brofessor Beyan’s comment was not intended to add value to the Menaqeshat beyn Al-Eritryuuuun. It is meant to lavish his Woyane bosses with praise as a downpayment for earning trust and maybe, maybe, maybe………….. one day to ride Weyane tanks to Asmara – with no tears, no sweat, no blood or loss of limb.

          Al-Asef, his Woyane bosses are on a vegetative state laying on their deathbed waiting the inevitable.

          Just enjoy the show!!!!!

          Semere Tesfai

        • said

          Selam Sara
          You are a voice for the voiceless. A whole history of Eritrean people who have sacrificed before us. whose voices who been forgotten. I don’t think of myself as a voice for those who are “voiceless,” because actually they’re all really, really loud with some one like you . your mission and goal is, to get more voices out there—but also to transform the conditions of our society so that we don’t have voiceless people anymore.one example in regard Eritrean refugee ,their experiences is well documented over 50 years and still going ,we are all refugee one way or another living in diaspora , what you already know and discover is that Eritrean people who almost uniformly have suffered terribly in trying to escape the country they were fleeing from and then trying to get to the countries that they want to go to. In the case of Eritrean population that we’re talking about, the refugee experience was horrendous. Many, many lives were lost. Many terrible things happened to the people who were trying to flee is just one part. because it makes you more caring and empathetic. It makes you feel for these new Eritrean refugees and what they’re going through. Some former tiny in number Eritrean refugees out there are saying in western nation , We’re the good Eritrean refugees, we made it at the helm . We deserve to be here. All these new people from Eritrean, , they’re the bad refugees. They’re different. We’ve got to close the door on these people. This terribly I think that’s fundamentally wrong. What happens if we don’t get involved in an aid organization and donate money to help Eritrean newly arrived ? you ask many good question ,the very least we can do is .What happens if we don’t call our elected officials and tell about Eritrean refugees,? What happens if we don’t march in the streets ,Eritrean refugees will pay the price ,? What happens if we don’t take action? Eritrean refugees will forgetting , I think that’s the danger you illustrated . As much as it awakens our feelings, it can also lull us into a sense of complacency that we’ve already done something simply by not doing anything about Eritrean refugees ,someone’s we know are in terrible situation minority Eritrean refugees are marginalized community ,

        • Natom Habom

          selam sara
          you said it ,respect
          unfortunately you are explening to blind and deaf her
          they have no feeling at all ,their sight is the set at the asmara palace
          dont care for the peoples

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam all

        I just want to keep this quote from Beyan for my records.

        “Selam Hayat Adem,

        I second Kim Hanna’s motion for giving those of us who are not well informed about the necessary ingredients that would inform our understanding of the genesis that led to the Algiers agreement. You eloquently captured the behavioral pattern of the tyrant at home in that he only capitulates and throws in the white towel to prolong his survival.

        Your assessment of the man is right on target. If the question of his survival is questionable after an unpredictable event like war with unintended consequences like the Badme war, he does what it takes to ensure he is NOT annihilated along with the defeat. Indeed, who would forget the statement he made even if the sun were to set from the east and ( I suppose to rise from the west) he would not retreat from the territory. For some nine months, he stood his ground. He went and visited the territory, the well-entrenched, impenetrable trench he thought. Sure enough when Ethiopia not only punctured it but went in 25 KM into Eritrea’s territory, when the noose gripped his neck so tightly, was when he capitulated and threw in that white towel for peace.

        Ethiopia’s failure to go all the way in and dislodging the man from the helm was akin to what the US did in the first Iraq war with Bush senior. Because it was left unfinished the US had to go back several years later to unseat the tyrant Saddam from power. If this man is going to come to the negotiating table with Ethiopia, the new PMAA’s government must make it clear that if he doesn’t come to the negotiating table, he will face the wrath of Ethiopia’s air-power reminiscent of 18 years back that left the man alienated, isolated, and incompetent to the core, who turned inward and has since become an existential threat not only to his own people but to the entire region. So, that threat needs to loom if he is going to come and accept the olive branch being extended to him by PMAA is all that I am saying here. Ethiopia needs to be serious about the stick and the carrot approach. Accept it and come to the table or else we are coming after you exactly like that of Saddam and like that of his friend Qaddafi – The language of threat and a real noose on the man’s neck will be the only reason he would come to the negotiating table. He is a coward. He will choose – yet again – survival over a potential force that he knows he is not equipped to counter – that needs to be made clear not out in the open but via whoever is considered his friends these days.

        Beyan”

        • Beyan

          Selam Semere Tesfai,

          You may just now have given me an impetus to develop the quote you cited into an article form so it is easily researchable. Until I do that though, glad you found my entry of interest to keep a record of, duly noted Semere Tesfai. I suggest you print it and put on file for the record.Whatever that means.

          Beyan

          • Paulos

            Selam Dr. Beyan,

            This Gestapo crap to intimidate people doesn’t have a room anymore. Semere Tesfay can underline it or quote it in bold ink if he wills, the fact remains as you have eloquently put it. Here is where I disagree with you. The Eritrean people do not need Ethiopia’s help to remove the cruel man this time around, they will do it themselves. They will rise up and either he will end up like Mussolini right in downtown Asmara or he will flee. I have no doubt in my mind.

          • Beyan

            Dear Dottore,

            The stick from the back channels might do the trick given the tyrant’s military power is at its weakest from the endless defections of the young and from almost two decades of no-peace-no war predicament that has been devastating Eritrea as a nation at every conceivable sector of its society.

            All I can say to your assertion in how “Eritrean people … will rise up and either he will end up like Mussolini right in downtown Asmara or he will flee” is from your mouth to the gates of heaven!
            Incidentally, Kaddis mentioned about that Ethiopian Standard editorial, which has a superb analysis that I just read. I hope you make the time to read it, if you haven’t already. For whatever its worth, someone is bound to come up with a pie in the sky conspiracy that Ethiopia will go after one of our ports, namely, Assab. The following might serve as a preemption that dissuade them from spewing it here. So, here is how the ES ends its editorial: “[A]ny Ethiopian who does not regret the secession of Eritrea is heartless; anyone who intends to get it back is brainless.” Amen!

            Beyan

          • Hope

            Selam Dr Beyan:

            You said:

            “The stick from the back channels might do the trick given the tyrant’s military power is at its weakest from the endless defections of the young and from almost two decades of no-peace-no war predicament that has been devastating Eritrea as a nation at every conceivable sector of its society”

            “.
            If I am reading U correctly and understood as such,it seems like U R contradicting,in a sense that U are advocating for an Invasion of Eritrea by the TPLF,including for the No Peace No War Policy, the sanctions, economic, political and diplomatic sabotages of Eritrea,which all have effectively devastated Eritrea and Eritreans; and yet,you are advocating for the same evil actions and agenda and conspiracies that has destroyed Eritrea and Eritreans.
            Worst, Ustaz Ismael rejoined you.
            Am I missing something here?
            A Classic approach of the corrupted and lost Pseudo-Eri Opposition,that devastated it to the ground level.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Beyan,

            I think those of us who know through decades how the regime and its secret services operate come to this forum to write what we have to write do it fully aware informants and information gathers could be, and even are, ubiquitous. I mean the regime does not need private archivist to keep track of records on individuals. On many of us it has already perhaps volumes of documents from on spot agents inserted among organizations and civic groups from anchors in embassies and consulate as well as so called community centers.

            But, the least I expected was that one of fellow forumers would so expressly come out to intimidate in the way you have been. When you was warned of was what he had written will be kept as record, and the message is clear; it means it will a handy evidence against when the opportunity arises down the road.

            Very worrying, sir. I remember one of our fellow forumers had once requested the moderators to care for extra safeguards for those who interact in this forum with their real names. She or he had a valid point though the moderators are themselves exposed as targets and can do little in that regard.

          • Beyan

            Dear Ismail AA,

            I take some such entries as nothing more than red herring and innuendos statements with no teeth to bite let alone to do some personal harms. ST is making it public something he wished to keep for his personal records – that right there is as weird as it gets. If someone wishes to take a record for personal reasons, they need not advertise it. They simply copy and paste.Period. So, I see your point in that sense. I don’t even know if this ST character is his real name or just a pen-name. Either way, it matters not at all to me. Living in the land of rule of law, these empty threats are nothing more than that: Just sheer blank slates. I never shied away from using my real name since joining dehai in 1995. Sure as heck, I will not do that now.

            This is not to say that caution is not prudent even from a common mugger, one has to take precautions. If he was hinting for others to take note, well, good luck to them trying to do harm in expressing one’s opinion. This is not Eritrea where the entire nation is their hostage. I take expressing myself equivalent to my breathing the Universe given free air that I breathe. This nation also allows for some measure of self protection. That’s all I can say.

            Beyan

        • Mez

          Dear Semere T.,

          I sence you can do much more to the benefit of all.
          1) there are some key policies wrong in the fundamentals of The PIA government,
          2)some comments as to how to rectify them?

          Thanks

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Semere T.

          As Asmarino’s deqi shuq would say

          “መንደቕ እንዳ አባሓበሽ ገሃጽ”

          Berhe

          • Hope

            The same to YOU,”Dear” Berhe.
            You are more ARROGANT than Dr Beyan-kab behali’u’s degami’u’!
            I thought a student could not do/ be better than his teacher.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            Yours is typical “kzHleka BEidka, kwEyeka bmanka”.
            The point is, it’s not I agree or disagree with Beyan, but the right he has to freely express himself.

            ST acts is a threat that he is keeping record to come after when ever when, so if you it, my reaction is to his act. In other words, who the hell cares, that’s how we say it in Asmara. And goes the same way for you as well.

            Let me say this, I don’t expect anything good ever to come, from those who support and defend the regime.

            Berhe

        • Ayneta

          Semere:
          Beyan at least has independently aired out his views, no matter how flawed they may seem to you, but you trying to act as ‘thought police’ by checking him out the way you did is indeed creepy and straight from PFDJ book. for that I say: shenka dekis!

      • Mez

        Dear Beyan,

        1) Your comment above created some wave of protest by some; that is ok in a healthy debate,
        2) the question on the Boarder demarcation may need to be approached from a new perspective. I think the current key question shall be how to make a WIN-WIN-WIN output for 1) Eritrea-2) Ethiopia-& 3) Boarder residents,
        3) when I mean Ethiopia/ Eritrea, I mean the current governments (primarily),
        4) I assume this can only happen through heavy pro-poor macro economic investment,
        5) I assume Europe and China are natural partners for this “Marshall plan” type reorientation,
        6) that window of opportunity is open now,

        My point is: One have to offer all the theree parties some thing good, some thing much more attractive than war (remember both war parties are financially bleeding).

        Thanks

        • Beyan

          Dear Mez,
          Exactly the point: I see the awate forum as a market of ideas, where good ideas gain currency and not so good ones would invariably wane. I have no problem if people try to reason like you just did. The challenge Eritreans face today is that the regime at the helm has zero interest for the well-being of Eritreans as a whole. Every action it took in its nascent nation-state history had no inklings of goodwill toward its citizens. If I begin to itemize to strengthen my argument I will run the risk of prolonging this response into an article size response, which is not the intention of this forum as I conceive of it. So, let me just point our few markers: (1) Wholesale banning of their The Jehovah Witness from practicing their faith; (2) Disabled Veterans mowed down in broad daylight; (3). Ruth Simon, the first reporter to be detained for reporting what the man at the helm deemed it an affront to his ill-gotten leadership; (4) Close to 200 Eritrean Muslim students and their teachers were taken in the wee hours of the night to never be seen again; (5) G-15; (6) Asmara University students detained illegally; (7) Betwedded who has been in jail never to be heard from for 25 or so years; (8) Abuna Antonios who remains under house arrest; (9) Countless others who were to disappear in the intervening years; (10) We’ve seen the Akhriya uprising unfolding through our naked eyes for its leader (93 years of age) to die in the hands of this heinous regime. Mez, do you honestly this regime is salvageable? I think not. But, of course, taking Faustian bargain is the only option left at our disposal, and I hope to the universe that Ethiopia under the new leadership has the wisdom to find an amicable solution. At a rhetorical level, I like the idea of a “Win-Win-Win” for all involved. There would nothing more gratifying than finding some such resolution. But, how realistic is it given what we know of the man at the helm in Eritrea today? I leave that question for which I have no answer for other than to conjecture based on his past actions, which speak loud and clear that he will choose a path that will prolong his staying power in Eritrea.

          Genuinely appreciate your genuinely constructive attempt at engaging me.

          Sincerely,
          Beyan

          • Mez

            Dear Beyan,

            Highly appreciated.

            To be honest with you:
            1) I am tired of the war situation since mid 1960ies–including the boarder war,
            2) any war to rectify communal/ social injustice will always be abused/hijacked by regional global powers for their own purpose–hence shall be REJECTED from the very beginning (however attractive it seems),
            3) imagine what would happen if the Eritrean army is absolutely sure the Ethiopian army is not going to open fire on them and vicevesa.
            4) Such a fundamental shift of way of thinking (policy rebasing) shall be what we (as learned citizen) offer,

            Thanks

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Mez,

          Your points: I can’t agree more. Beautifully put brother.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Beyan, I know you got to appease the Ethiopians and the weyane thugs , however you don’t need to that far. Only cowards and irresponsible people will say what you are saying. I know you won’t get it but war is not the worst.
        “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war” is much worse people like you!!!! get a life.

        • Mez

          Dear Nitricc,

          Just a question, is your quote from “Paul Joseph Goebbels” or from “Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi”?

          I got confused.

          Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hey MEZ; that was from my favorite person that is…

            “John Stuart Mill, Principles of Political Economy”

          • Mez

            Dear Nitricc,

            There must be a typos error while quoting–there is no such an expression in “political economy”.

            Please verify.

            Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hey MEZ; Absolutely: hard to read but yes, exists
            “John Stuart Mill, The Collected Works of John Stuart Mill,
            Volume III – Principles of Political Economy Part II [1848]
            Author: John Stuart Mill”

        • Beyan

          MerHaba Nitricc,

          I understand your role as ኣባ ጎይላ wanna be in this forum is getting so stale it is staying at a level of sophistry for many years now. A little sophistication, at least on the use of your language, would’ve lasted you longer than it has so far. I have suggested many years ago an ESL – English as Second Language school for you. It looks like you don’t heed any suggestions from others. You couldn’t even bring your language capacity to a stage of a gadfly (dictionary definition for you pal: “an annoying person, especially one who provokes others into action by criticism”) for crying out loud. So, I will make you a deal: How about you disappear for a year and come back with a language that can help you express your feelings, better than “get a life”, eh. I will be willing to disappear for a year for a moral support in this endeavor. You see, Mez is confused with your language, take a hint, won’t you?

          Beyan

          • Nitricc

            Hey Beyan; I rather be a doctor of history. lol dude, don’t even go there. Since you are addicted to the Ethiopia talk show I have suspected something. I mean who watches that trashy show? You must have nothing more important to do. Now, you are wasting your time something that happened 20 years ago? oh, history, doctor. I got it. lol

      • Hope

        Selam Beyan:
        Are you the same Dr Beyan that we know here or someone using your nick?
        Here is what I understood from your comments:
        -The TPLF Army should have invaded and controlled Eritrea in 1998-2000
        -No,if PIA doesn’t sit down to the table to negotiate with Dr Abiy,he will suffer the fate of Col Moamer Ghedafi through the “Highly advanced Ethiopian Air force”.
        Am not surprised by your “Bold Comment” as iSem and Hayat said the same things over and over..
        Can you expand your comment as to:
        -What could have happened if the TPLF controlled Eritrea/the fate of Eri Independence
        -Why do you think the TPLF failed miserably to capture Aseb,if at all it had such kind of power you claimed to have had to over-run Asmera,which it failed to do so as well after the unheard of loss at ,Tserona ,Senafe and Eagri-Maekel?
        -If PIA has a right to refuse to negotiate like Ethiopia has done for over 16 yrs, why should/would Dr Abiy make PIA to have the fate of Col Moamer Ghedafi and bomb Asmera or Hadi Halo or Massawa,as long as he does not provoke or attempt to destabilize Ethiopia,wich he does not have the gut/courage and capacity of doing so for nothing.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Beyan,

        I rearly disagree with your point of view. But I don’t think Ethiopia should use force for any means to demand what it needs.

        And the US example of Iraq was a very bad example, when George Bush was wrong in defying the UN and the international community to go to war along the UK. Not to mention the loss of hundreds of thousands innocent lives and untold destruction the US caused to the people of Iraq was pure criminal. As as result the world has become a dangerous place.

        George B. Senior was correct to pull back from attacking Iraq as soon as he forced them out of Kuwait.

        Ethiopia calling the bluff of Eritrea is the best thing that happened when PMAA has announced. And this should be bring a lot of pressure against the Eritrean regime.

        I think we should look at this new created opportunity and try to exploit it to weaken the Eritrean regime and eventually removed.

        Berhe

      • Alex

        Hi Beyan,
        It is sad to see people like you go so low when you state “Ethiopia’s failure to go all the way in and dislodging the man from the helm was akin to what the US did in the first Iraq war with Bush senior”. I have news for you in that TPLF tried marching to Asmara by launching attacks in Asseb and adi baggio front and the heroic Eritrean defence force stop them in their tracks, because I have seen it in my own eyes unlike you. You are naive to state “the new PMAA’s government must make it clear that if he doesn’t come to the negotiating table, he will face the wrath of Ethiopia’s air-power reminiscent of 18 years back that left the man alienated, isolated, and incompetent to the core”. Eritreans were not intimidated when we were in the bush with out air power and why do you think it will work this time when we have our own air force. Eritrea do not have an obligation to come to negotiating table until the invading Ethiopia forces vacate Eritrean land and no threat will work since the truth is in our side.

  • Amde

    አቢቲ

    በሆድ ብሶት ማልቀስ ቀኑ አለፈበት፣
    ሆደ ቡቡ ነበርን ለካስ ሳናውቅበት፣
    ሳይንሱ ሲያስርዳ ወንድ የሚያለቅሰው፣
    ቴስቶስቴሮን ጎድሎት ሲያንስ ነው ብለው፣
    ይሄው ላርም ብዬ ወደ ጂም ገባሁ፣
    ሀምሳ ፑሻፕ ላይ ነኝ እልፍ እያነባሁ።

    Amde

  • Amde

    አቢቲ

    ቢትዊን ዩ ኤንድ ሚ ለሰው እንዳትናገር እንጂ
    እባክህ ሰውየው በስተርጅና አልቃሻ አርጎኛል። የተፈቱትን ልጆች ሳይ አይኔ ውስጥ ምናምን ገባ መሰለኝ።

    አምዴ

  • Amde

    Hi Awatistas,

    I think at this rate, Ethiopia will mount a special forces operation to rescue the Ethiopian Armed Opposition from Eritrea who are being effectively transformed from opponents to hostages.

    The release of the former OLF leaders from Egyptian jails and going home on the PM’s flight is huge I think but i am running out of superlatives. As an online personality stated “General Kemal Gelchu… loading…”

    Amde

    • saay7

      Amde:

      Ah to be young! This is why his Twitter game is strong: his chief of staff knows what Twitter was designed for.

      Speaking of tweets and Abiyes reputation as a jailbreaker, here’s a wit:

      ሰርግ ላይ “ታሰረች አሉ በትዳር….” እያሉ ሲዘፍኑ ሰምተው የሙሽሪት እናት ምን አሉ “ምን ዋጋ አለው ነገ አብይ ያስፈታታል!”

      😆

      Saay

      • Amde

        Ohh Saayyy

        I laughed a good five minutes like an imbecile in my car. I didnt know my peeps were so funny.

        Thanks
        Amde

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Gash Amde,

      This is quite significant turn of events. We seem to be overwhelmed by the speed of undertaking measures by Dr. Abij which signals self confidence. Otherwise, such matters consume time and lot of horse trading. Not doubt the good doctor has his keen eyes focused on Oromo constituency and opening doors to the OLF is key. I remember we had conversation on this particular point under one of the previous threads. As to Eritrea based opposition groups, they might have already felt the direction the wind has started to blow. They might have already known that once hostage under Isayas Afewerki means ending up as hostage for the rest of life.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam ismail
        I remember when u explain the birth place of pm AAA, u was hoping there is a lot of grievance on “nifetigna” in agaro and u were exited about the game. So u got to be careful what u wish.
        The greatest thing that DR AAA and his team did and doing is uniting ethiopians that been destroyed by tplf meles. That is his greatest achievement as of now .
        .

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Teodros,

          I am not sure about what you intended to say. I couldn’t really stitch together “grievances” you mentioned ” with my “exit[ment] (sic) about the game”. What “game” and “wish” are volunteering to alert me to be careful about. Did you intend to say that Dr. Abij’s efforts to unify Ethiopian peoples is the same thing as venturing to undo the ethnic federal system the coalition he is representing had erected under Meles Zenawi? How does this related to the “neftegna” thing you have mentioned?

          By the way, the old settler latifundia system in Agaro region and elsewhere were destroyed long time ago with the measures the Derg took. So, Dr. Abij or his coalition had nothing to destroy in that regard. Meanwhile I agree with you on the effort Dr. Abij has been putting up to unify the nations is so far commendable.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ismail
            Instead of grievance read it as grudge.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Teodros,
            I won’t make any difference.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ismail
            I know.

      • Amde

        Selam Gash Ismael,

        I think as much as Abiy is rushing, he really has a very narrow window to win at the next election. The system is setup to reward those who can maximize ethnic agendas rather than nationalist ones. OPDO’s opponent is OFC which has for years had a comfortable and well-earned place straddling being Ethio nationalist and Oromo ethnicist. Abiy and Team Lemma is taking over the Ethio nationalist side, which is necessarily forcing OFC to (probably) emphasise the Oromo nationalist side. We could likely see a scenario where OPDO does a lot of the right things and still get decimated at the polls. Leaving Abiy without a parliamentary majority to re-elect him. (This is one among many reasons why the Badme thing is completely inexplicable to me).

        This is the same problem Gedu’s ANDM is facing. Just this weekend, a new Amara party was launched, and this one looks legit and could be a serious contender. For years ANDM has only faced competition from the Ethiopianist side, but now Amara nationalism appears to be born, with a generation of EPRDF raised Ethno-conscious youths to attract.

        2020 is really just around the corner so we will see how it works out. But I cant see how the genie of the EPRDF franchise political monopoly system is going to be put back in the bottle.

        Amde

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Amde,

          You might be right in your assessment at the moment. I relate this with the time factor. The worrisome adversary of Dr. Abij and his allies could be the essence of time. I mean the time for resetting the electoral battle lines would need time beyond 2020. The sale of the wider nationalist card too needs time to penetrate the walls of ethnic enclaves and translate to credible electoral base.

          Moreover, the chances of harmony and unity of purpose and intent within the current coalition partners could play out in favor or against Dr. Abij and his chance of staying on top of the OPDO. The more coherent the coalition would be the more his fortunes within his ethnic constituency would have better impact. Dispersal at the core (EPRDF) would have negative effect.

          The point, I am not sure about is how wide the OLF constituency is, and what the chances are for OFC to close ranks with OPDO in the interest of the democratization of the current federal system. Beside, I would like to ask you where activist like Jawar and Prof. Ezekiel Gebissa stand on the Oromo political landscape.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismael,

            The times are so strange.

            The looming OPDO vs OFC fight/competition is being actively discussed by Oromo activists. Funny enough, this is where EPRDFs favorite tool – the First Past The Post system works against them. A Proportional Representation system would help them out, but just like many things EPRDF has been gaming and toying with electoral reform with insincere manipulation and selected “opposition”. I am a big fan of PR, and I hope PM AAA makes it a central plank. It will help him, AND more importantly it will empower the true diversity within every constituency.

            In any case, OPDO is not waiting around. There was(is) a third critical leader within Team Lemma, gentleman named Addisu Arega, whose job was Oromia Region PR/Communications head. He is not quite as visible nowadays, but he has a new portfolio of OPDO rural organization. One would have imagined that with Abiy at Federal he would move up, but his new job just tells you how determined OPDO seems to win via ballot. EPRDFs rural control practices being what they are, and now with power at the Federal level, they have a good chance I think.

            I do not think Jawar or Prof Ezekiel are separatists. Everything is contextual of course. Just to give you some perspective, some of Jawar’s friends/associates online were soliciting ideas on how best to have a non-ethnic federation. This was at the time when the Qerroo movement was starting to gather steam. And the big Addis Ababa Master Plan brouhaha – well they agreed it was a solid and necessary plan – but they found it to be politically expedient to use it as a whipping boy instead. So – make that what you will. I don’t believe Prof. Ezekiel is a separatist at heart either – he is primarily an intellectual. Jawar on the other hand is a political engineer. He has the professional training to do it. There is a fascinating ESAT interview of him – he even talks about Eritrea and its Singapore dream – it is really worth watching.
            He can be a demagogue – one hopes age will temper him into a more responsible person. In any case, he is smart enough to know that any which way you slice it, in a free electoral system, the Oromo have an inbuilt structural advantage, so the ethnic federation is somewhat superfluous. I wouldn’t be shocked if in a few cycles he gives a nod to its reformation, but at this point even he cannot come out against it.

            So, two years is either nothing or an eternity in politics, but Abiy’s speed is almost imposed on him. What is interesting is that he appears to have chosen to take advantage of it.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Gash Amde,

            Highly appreciate the elaboration. The run up to 2020 will indeed be an interesting period for Dr. Abij as interim prime minister and how the nationwide political line up in ever of the election date will shape up.

            Maintenance of calm and introducing improvement where needed will be crucial for PM Abij and the country by and large. The first test is how he and his team are going to handle the new turn around move on the boarder issue as well as how to deal with the regime in Eritrea either way: refusal to play its role or respond with obstructive caveats. The former could develop to his advantage which he can ignore the issue and move on because he will spared from the blame, and the latter could pull towards wasting crucial time at the expense of domestic matters.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam amde
          I heard u the other day when u were talking about a facebook guy name called nati, as if he is g7 and now u trying to mislead as if the amara party in bahir dar is a real party.
          That lead me to believe u r in some kind of relationship with the party called Andm or opdo. Am i right?

          • Amde

            Selam Teodros

            ተሳስተሀል።

            You don’t think the new party formed in BahrDar is real?

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            U want me to explain if it is real or not? Not the one in bahir dar those amara groups r fake , they r just on Facebook and YouTube, they don’t exist in real life. Have u heard “forum members” in ethiopia? The new amara group in bahir dar r them.
            There is also about 4 fake oromo groups in ethiopia and i know u know that . simply because i still believe u not stupid.

    • Paulos

      Selam Amde,

      Do you remember, right after the young PM came to power, I said, he needs to pull out of Badme, in fact I said, he doesn’t have any other choice but to accept the Algiers’ agreement?

      And the way things are unfolding, we will see something extraordinary with in the near future where either the cruel man will flee the country or a military take over of some sort. Remember, there is a limit for everything.

    • Selam and good morning Amde,

      I believe the news has not changed. What now for pm Abiy after the rhetoric. Is he going to the second phase, that of taking a unilateral action, or is he going to let the issue hibernate again provided dia remains mute. Only God knows what the crownless emperor is doing (or going to do). He is still in his hideout somewhere between asmara and massawa, reading the stars and the alignments of the planets at night, for a revelation as to what steps he should take. The sky seems late in revealing its mysterious signs.

      Is it going to be a oneman dance for the ethiopian pm, begging for peace and finally surrendering everything to dia/pfdj, after so much blood ethiopia has paid for dia/pfdj aggression, or is it going to be at least like trump and kim jong-un negotiation, with hand shaking and sitting at a negotiation table, and opening all the cards for discussion? The humiliations of – going from unconditional arbitration – to unconditional withdrawal – and latter on, begging for negotiation is too much for ethiopians to bear. If so, i think that the ethiopian pm will come to a head on collision with the majority of ethiopians, and he should as well forget 2020. A peace initiative that is not going to bring real peace is a waste of time.

      As much as the ethiopian opposition forces hosted by the eritrean regime are concerned, most probably their fate has already changed, in that the eritrean regime may have already dispersed them and made sure that they are not an important force within eritrea, once he understood the change of stand by the opposition leaders. For ethiopia sending a force to evacuate them will not be easy and may make ethiopia an aggressor. It is upto the leaders, BN, and OLF leaders to find a way to move them back to ethiopia. This is one of the things i see as a positive outcome of the move by the pm that has made the armed oppositions irrelevant in ethiopian politics unless they accept peaceful struggle.

      Finally, I am not sure if it is another bombshell from our young pm or a self-serving egyptian news coming from cairo, that says “the pm of ethiopia had said in his meeting with al sisi that ethiopia will preserve Egypt’s share of the nile and will work on increasing Egypt’s share”. It is too obvious that it is a fake news. It is known that egyptians journalists disseminate fake news on purpose.

      • saay7

        Selam Horizon:

        I can understand Ethiopians who say Ethiopia should not have agreed to any peace treaty after it got the disputed territories;
        I can understand Ethiopians who say Ethiopia should not have agreed to the terms of the peace treaty;
        I can understand Ethiopians who say Ethiopia should declare the treaty voided because of X, Y and Z

        Mind you, I can understand, if I dont agree.

        What I don’t understand is acknowledging that Ethiopia signed the treaty in the presence of witnesses and cameras, and then setting pre-conditions that are not stated in the agreement. Can you help me out with that? You can’t agree to a blueprint of a house, to a model of a house and then, when the house is built, fight with the construction company to whom you have said, “your decision is final and I will never appeal it.”

        In Egypt, after their joint press conference, the Egyptian President (who is a showman like Museveni) asked the Ethiopian PM to swear (in Arabic, for domestic consumption) “to swear to God before the Egyptian people that you will not hurt Egypt’s share of the Nile.” Abiye said, “I swear to God, we will never harm you.” Neither final, nor binding. Hintity, hint, hint.

        saay

        • Selam Saay,

          Yes, i do not deny that the Ethiopian government signed the treaty in the presence of witnesses and cameras, but that government was an authoritarian government that came to power with the force of its military might and fake elections, hateful of the country it ruled, until it was reborn out of necessity. It did not represent the ethiopian people wholeheartedly, or the interest of ethiopia in general, and put in danger the sovereignty of the country by leaving the country undefended.

          A national patriotic government does not go for arbitration without its own pre-condition (we have never heard of one upto now), especially when it is victorious at the battlefields, and when it has sacrificed tens of thousands of its people, to turn a victory into a political defeat’ Ethiopia is blamed today and even has to apologize, while the aggressor acquired the moral high ground and justice on its side.

          If tplf has committed a grave crime by going for arbitration without preconditions, it does not mean that the present ethiopia government should do even worse by agreeing to withdraw without dialogue and without even taking into consideration the wish of the local population, even if tplf betrayed ethiopia and ethiopians by signing the agreement in front of witnesses and cameras. In my opinion, real peace is not going to come this way, or serve ethiopia’s interest, but the whole issue is going to be a reward to the aggressor, boost its ego and make it even more arrogant.

          “We will not hurt the egyptian people” through the waters of the nile has always been there since emperor menelik ii. The point here is the lie by some egyptian media who said, “increasing egypt’s share” which is impossible and has no relations with equitable use of the river that had been under discussion for so long. The PM should not have also committed himself by saying “preserving egypt’s share”, because again, even this doesn’t reflect equitable share. Swearing is naivety and it is not politics.

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            I think you know better. A government cannot escape from an international treaty ratified by a former government, no matter how heinous or dictatorial it is. It can’t even escape from debt: I think the EPRDF government assumed the debt racked up by the Derg government. That’s not how the world works otherwise treaties and obligations would mean nothing.

            One can ask to be forgiven of this obligation but one can’t dictate it.

            saay

          • Saay,

            If a country doesn’t pay its debt it will not find other creditors in the future, if a country like russia invades crimea she is slapped with sanctions, while a country like israel can occupy the golan heights, hold the place for 50 yrs and nothing happens. Ethiopia’s case is similar with israel, and she can sleep on it for another twenty years, if necessary, until the unexpected happens. Nevertheless, this should not be the aim of ethiopia, and that is why dialogue is necessary, and the eritrean regime should be ready for it.

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            Well, then, this has nothing to do with whether the former government was democratic or autocratic. What you are proposing is that old standby “might makes right”, which also makes the “let’s dialogue” invitation superfluous (if you don’t dialog, we will ignore you; if you dialog, do it while acknowledging our superior position here.) It is a tenuous position to hold for a country that has defined itself as a victim of conspiratorial foreigners, not to mention a country that aspires to lead Africa by example.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            Saay is right as to whether governments are democratic or authoritarian government, governments are abided by the treaties they made according the international law. Second the EPRDF Government has entered to that treaty, and the EPRDF is still ruling your country. Don’t think the current government is democratic, too much fun to the man before he has even have a chance to govern and show some outcome. It is still the government of EPRDF until the state is run by other parties.

      • Amde

        Selam Horizon,

        I don’t think this thing will go far. It needs resolution but not right now with a thousand and one items on his plate. The big question that we don’t know is the external pressure factor (although I don’t know what changed), and the state of the government’s finances..

        The Washington Post Editorial Board had a glowing piece about him. Not a columnist, or a guest piece, but the Editorial team. Yes, there is a self serving element of praising him for promising privatization of the family jewels, but still one gets the feeling that he has transcended a line form being a curiosity into a person maybe they (American Foreign Policy establishment whatever that means in the age of Trump) can do some business with. On that score so far Abiy is definitely ahead of the game, and I think Saay and Mez have it right about EPRDF buying some indefinite time.

        Amde

        • Selam Amde and Mez,

          As they say, Rome was not built in a day and pm Abiy seems to bite off much more than he can chew, in my opinion. No need to be in such a hurry, because i have this feeling that he is putting the country again in a precarious situation. While some of his actions are really great and timely, some others show that he is in a hurry for no reason at all.

          After the recent crisis, ethiopia was expected to change, but not at this breakneck speed. I am sure he is a frontrunner, nevertheless, i hope he has not left behind the rest of the eprdf, thus isolating himself. He has to decrease his pace, because in politics there is a trap at every corner.

          Mez, that flood water and the land that is going to be free for farming is what sudan is waiting for, and the main reason she supports ethiopia on the gerd. Upto now sudan is not using fully her share of the water due to annual flooding and she is going to claim it, which is around 5.5 bn m3. Qatar is investing in agriculture in sudan, millions of hectares. In my opinion, ethiopia should not lose sudan’s friendship, because she can depend on it.

        • saay7

          Selam Amde:

          Are you saying you don’t buy the rationale PM Abiye gave for why the resolution of the Eritrea-Ethiopia border has become one of the “a thousand and one items on his plate”? That’s, as a uniformed man, he empathizes with the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian soldiers living an indefinite life of state of alert which is psychologically exhausting (constituency: armed forces) and as the man with ultimate responsibility for the country’s purse strings finds maintaining a state of readiness for this large force financially draining? ((Constituency: creditors) And, as the head of a government of a nation housing the AU and chairing IGAD, he finds the cognitive dissonance between living a life of telling countries to abide by treaties and laws, and ignoring it, also exhausting? (Constituency: Africa)

          And if all of this has the added advantage of opening a new front for an organization that did not welcome his elevation to power and will actively undermine it (Constituency: Tigrayan people who said we have suffered enough), why wouldn’t this issue shoot up to the top of his to-do list?

          saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            There is this Amharic proverb of the monkey who fell into a pit of thorns. She (dunno why she’s a she but..) comes out, a veritable porcumonkey, with thorns stuck every painful place imaginable. But then she proceeds to pull the thorns stuck on her ass. Observers question why she won’t pull out the thorns out of her eyes. She answers “መጀመሪያ የመቀምጫዬን”

            You have to know, militaries absolutely hate walking away from victory. And this is not the Derg era army – with hapless soldiers stationed at their posts for years. No, units get rotated, and the army is used to do many civilian infrastructure projects in Tigray. So, in aggregate, a drain on the public purse, but in political sum total the army would be loath to walk away, especially having defended the place over a decade now. So, this won’t be greeted with joy by the army – far from it. Keep in mind the reason we are in this pickle is precisely because Meles squandered the military’s sacrifice and victory in some alien courtroom with deranged legal arguments. The military backlash, as well as enraged Tigrayan civilians, is what has kept TPLF from implementing it for years. I dont see how that changes.

            OPDO just finished an organizational conference and came out with a strong pan-Ethiopian position. I interpret that to mean it is positioning itself as a national party – which means giving away territory would be against their new brand and ambition. It makes no sense for them to talk national but then push a line to give away territory. If anything, it makes no sense to punish people like the Irob just so they can put the screws to TPLF. By history and temperament, the Irob for example would be a natural constituency for a party such as the new OPDO. I would even venture to say OPDO’s political star will rise in Tigray if they took a hard rhetorical line.

            I never quite believed the Tigrayans on ETV asking for normalization with Eritrea. If you ask someone in Axum town, who wants business to pick up, but doesnt have to be displaced or otherwise impacted, he might be for a rapprochement on the abstract. But ask him specifically about the ones displaced – I am not sure they will be for it. Plus (a big Plus) they are “hoping” for a normalization but giving up the land has absolutely no guarantees it will lead to any sort of normalization whatsoever. The ones that don’t care either way are the Agazian/Tigray-Tigrigni advocates who think it is just swapping your wallet from the left to the right pocket. Nobody knows how big this constituency is in Tigray. But if you have to face the choice of becoming Isayyas’ subject or walking away from everything you have known all your life – that must be terrifying indeed.

            The diplomatic hypocrisy – well the world is full of hypocritical diplomatic positions, and I would hardly characterize it as “exhausting”.

            I would say from the list you gave, the “Creditors” might be the ones who might be pleased, but at the end of the day, they are not going to nickel and dime his expenses to tell him what to cut and what not to. They are cool as long as they get paid. But I feel you are onto something here on the fiscal front. We will see.

            Amds

          • saay7

            Selam Amde:

            Very well, argued, as usual. What frustrates me about the silence of the Government of Eritrea is this:

            As of last week, the UN, US, EU and every busybody will change one phrase in their country reports. From:

            “….calls upon Ethiopia to……”

            To

            “…. welcomes Ethiopia’s recent decision to….”

            And all it took was for PM Abiye to make a statement and get his government to ratify it. The Government of Eritrea should welcome his statement and create a timeline of what needs to happen next–per the Algiers Agreement. What is interesting is that a few months ago (I don’t know what the ocassion was) Eri-TV had a long editorial calling on the new Prime Minister of Ethiopia to show boldness and pursue a different path from that of his predecessors. It said what is pending is demarcation and restitution (which I read as EEBC and EECC.) It needs to call his bluff and help to remind him what his statement entails in terms of action.

            On the military, well, I don’t know what is “victory”, Amde? General Tsadkan (may God forgive his soul) said that of the rare arable land there is along the common border, it is being used to station Eritrean and Ethiopian tanks and artillery in an indefinite stare-down. The military redeploys, the land is used for what it was intended: isn’t that victory? What is victory: an Ethiopian flag waving?

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            Another point on the financial aspects is, may be Ethiopia wanted to resolve the issue to relief the stress on the port payments and fuel costs as well. There was Ethiopians discussing on etv on you tube and one of the guy Dr. Ghetachew, said it costs Ethiopia close 2 billion dollars, I don’t know how he ended up to that number. So if they were are able to reduce even by 20%, that would mean 400 million dollars in savings…

            Berhe

          • Hope

            Selam Berhe:
            Did u listen to Gen Tsadkan,the baby crier, convincing his Tigreyan Audience that making peace with Eritrea will at least help Ethiopia to start the potash mining to generate $10 Billion per annum.?..

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hope,

            I would not call him “baby crier”. In the same speech, he also said the war is imposed on us (meaning on Ethiopia by IA), and we had to do what we have to do to defend our country. He also said, as a person with authority he is ready to take responsibility what ever might be.

            He is no cry baby because he showed your PIA how to run to the SC for help and begged them that he will accept anything, including 25 km deep inside our lands.

            Only Great War generals understand the value of peace, because they know the cost of war. General MacArthur, helped rebuild Japan after devastating atomic bombed war.

            The only cry baby is your PIA, hiding (always) when it mattered the most. He was lecturing us about boarder, rule of law for the past 15 years, for 4 hours every new year with his boating interview. Now that an opportunity of peace has came he is no where to show up (over a week now).

            Anchiwa Nacfa, because he doesn’t know what to do….he never thought Ethiopia would have accepted the peace deal.

            Berhe

          • Hope

            Selam berhe:
            Let the UN- biased Historians narrate the facts as they are ,as there tons of conspiracies and issues lay people like me and U have no clue about.
            But if I have to tell U the other side of the story that I witnessed, here are the facts:
            1-Gen Tsadkan cried more than a baby after the huge losses at the Tserona Front.Gen Siyye Abreha did the same thing and he rather was air-lifted from the Aseb Front fearing for his life.
            2)The worst nightmare happened at Eagri Maekel including in SenAfe.
            3)The worst of the worst nightmare happened to the TPLF Foot Soldiers at the Aseb Front despite all the Logistic,Technical and Moral supports provided to the TPLF Janda including by the CIA and its Red Sea Stationed Warships and Satellites and the Mossad and their Senior Commanders stationed at the Aseb Front(per Deuchevelle-Voice of Germany).
            Mind U that,the EDF did all these MIRACLES while retreating from its well fortified Defense Lines—which has never happened in the world history per Gen Sibaht Efrem and to my best knowledge.
            Not to mention that the EDF was/has been fully sanctioned and there were times that the EDF was short of AK-47 Bullets and hand grenades in the Western Fronts.
            But,as it was well witnessed, the EDF was READY with its full energy and logistics when the 25KM Zone was declared for some obvious reasons and for classified reasons that U might have no clue about.
            The EDF had a potential of over-running Mekele in hrs but it was halted and stopped by none but by the same Cultist Leader.
            FYI:
            To make strategic withdrawal is NOT losing the war, not to mention that the EDF is NOT a prefect Institution specially when fully sanctioned and its hands tied up for obvious reasons.
            That is ERITRERANISM and its heroism.
            So,to bluff with your filthy mouth with little knowledge and to insult Intelligence is but beyond hypocrisy..

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            Am I questioning the heroism of ERITREAN people and the EDF? Not at all. You brought it up so stick to the topic.

            Where the EDF provided with the best fighting machine, the best military generals and the best intelligence that country and the leadership afforded to them. NO.

            So they did what they got to do to defend their country and I am proud of them. I had my own family members in those battles and they told me the story first hand what happened. I also found names of my high school friends who were killed in those wars from the ERITREAN list of the war dead.

            IA and his top leaders had their holicopers ready to run to Nacfa. And those senior members were collecting their furnitures as they were running away, while leaving the wounded and Warssay behind.

            General Mesfun Hagos, Uqbe Abraha, Petros Solomon and others capable commanders were left in the dark and were prevented from participation, which they did refusing orders of you PIA.

            Your PIA was teTalaqyu (pie in his pants) in fear and he gave them all they asked, including gave order to withdraw from Asab, if it wasn’t the refusal of those commanders stationed there.

            So nothing really to brag about the conduct of the war, over half million of our people were displaced.

            Weather you like it or not General Tsadqan and Ethiopia come out winners. If you want to deny this fact, your PIA wouldn’t have begged the UN for the last 16 years asking Ethiopia to withdraw from Eritrean territories, he would have used his mighty force to do it, just like Ethiopia did.

            So General Tsadqan wanting peace now, is a sure sign of maturity and the care he has for his people. But you people and your PIA, do not care how many people must have perished as long as you have the bragging rights to claim “cry baby”.

            Isn’t the reason your PIA arrested the G15, because they asked to investigate the conduct of the war?

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Saay,

            I have long ago stopped believing the Eri government wants this fixed. They could have taken the Ethiopian side’s request for a “dialogue”, brought along good faith witnesses to make sure the Ethio side was not being unreasonable, and like an inchworm, worked their way through every meter of the border and gotten it resolved. In retrospect, what if that process had taken years?

            I think Isayyas believes he finally has TPLF on the ropes, and he would be loathe to give them an out. Remember, if he works with Abiy, Abiy gets the blame, and TPLF can claim under their watch no land was given. That gives them a chance at survival. The game is such now they have to outflank Arena Tigray on the border issue.

            But the newest status quo, with TPLF on the periphery, is not a good long term place for them. I mean, are they in government or not? Are they in EPRDF or not? Are they opposition or not? It’s weird. Maybe he thinks this is it for them, but he may be miscalculating. Really, once you step back and look at it, all that has happened is the pecking order within EPRDF is starting to reflect the country’s demographic numbers. So, TPLF can make peace with the new dispensation and decide to play ball. That sounds better than becoming a regional party out of the game altogether. Sounds more likely to me too – but who knows.

            I get what you mean about the land currently hosting tanks. There is a part of me that thinks this thing will resolve in a whimper than with a bang. Basically, a series of meaningless but symbolic moves to maintain the honor and self-respect of both sides, but otherwise not much different from where the lines are now.

            But Isayyas – he a dummy. Or a Djibouti secret agent.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            Well…did your call our president “a dummy”? These are fighting words….let’s step outside.

            I really do not believe the claim that IA does not want the border war resolved or the claim that this works to his advantage or that immediately following its resolution the PFDJ will rise up against him, etc. I believe he wants it resolved because that would fulfill the one stature he craves–prophet–and he wants it fulfilled in accordance with his prophecy: TPLF out of power. Once the border is demarcated, then….nothing would change in governance because he has explained the:

            (a) Warsay-Yeka’alo Project (militarizing youth, national service) not as a national security but a nation-building project. He leaves it to the Yemanes to explain it as necessitated by Ethiopia’s aggressive posture and occupation of Eritrean land. What will change is instead of the indefinite military service, it will be a defined military service.
            (b) the one party-state is a developmental state project, and not necessitated by Ethiopia’s position on the border. A sentence he uses often– “We have learned a lot in the past few years” — means we have revised our commitment to multi-party-state because we see the West use this to create chaos. When we think that’s not subtle enough, he tells us that anyone who is thinking there will be political parties outside the People’s Front can go to the moon.
            (c) nothing will change in foreign policy. We have clearly demarcated borders with Sudan (I think) and one of the under-reported news is the tension between Eritrea and Sudan is at its highest since the Turabi era.

            Maybe some missed (because the language was in Tigre) but yesterday, in response to a question from MS, Kbrom “joked” that the people of Eritrea make no distinction between occupation and government.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            I started reading ur comment and i give up in the middle when i saw u said something about opdo.
            Opdo today accepted eebc implementation with out preconditions and support the federal gov. decision.
            The point is no matter how much u guys bent over 20- 30 times a day for tplf , as history told us , at the end of the day rule of law will prevail.
            U have to remember the people uprising is the reason why we see change in ethiopia.
            And i remember when i first read ur comment here in awate, i new u were committed slave and proud of it. I was right than and am right now.

          • Amde

            Selam ቴድሮስ

            እንኳን እኔ የምፅፈውን ከማንበብ ተገላገልክ። ደስ ስላለህ ደስ ብሎኛል።

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            I think u r lying ur identity. Am guessing u r from wakero or shira or something.
            Keep up being a happy slave.

          • Amde

            Selam Teodros,

            Yes you got me. I am ሽሮቄሮ.. the new Qerro From Shiraro.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            Now u talking but instead of shroqerro, i recommended salestey wayane. Because u will provoke another conflict, qerro’s will not like it.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Modererator
            Am sorry, it will not happen again.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amde,

            Congratulations, he called you a tplf. I had that honor months ago. Teodros is really unique to me, perhaps because of the generational difference.
            His deep resentment of Tigray ethnic group appears boundless. He claims to be Amhara and sees bogyman in every corner, and lunges at you if and when certain “words” are used. In my time I never saw such hateful attitude from the so called “Amhara” individuals. They might be condescending or insensitive but not hateful to such an extent. I wonder if that is a new and growing phenomena. That would be unfortunate.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Selam Mr KH,

            Hahaha.. እንኳን ለዚች ቀን አደረሰን።

            He is unique indeed. I actually think he has many good and sharp points, but I don’t know why he has to insult everybody. This is one of the most respectful and educational places online for people from our region, and he does not appreciate how lucky he is that he found it.

            ይመቸው ከማለት ሌላ ምን እላለሁ።

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            Unless u don’t know the real meaning of love and hate , u wouldn’t say what u said above.
            I don’t hate tigrai people: :
            I hate tplf and it’s supporters: :
            I supported tplf/eprdf before nobody support them in addis,
            But now i knew they r the most twisted groups, driven by hate and cheap emotions group.
            Even i believe their hate and inferior attitude r danger for horn region and humanity at large.

      • Mez

        Dear Horizon,
        “… the pm of ethiopia had said… that Ethiopia will preserve Egypt’s share of the nile and will work on increasing Egypt’s share….”

        1) I saw the press conference online, it is true PM-AAA said that–with the successful operation of the GERD this is also going to happen, (supported by science),
        2) with this press conference, he told Egyptians that the GERD case is part and parcel of everyone’s life–across the mile valley,
        3) when the GERD is fully operational, there will be more water flow to Egypt than it is now. (because there will be no more flooding of big plains in Sudan),
        4) that press conference was a big success for Ethiopia, and a turning point for Ethio-egyptian relation. And also a bad day for PIA regional policy–one of his regional politics pillar is collapsing,
        5) see also what the Startfor analyst Zacharias had to say under: “Egypt’s Options to Counter Ethiopia’s Grand Dam Run Dry”.

        Thanks

  • Paulos

    Selam Sal,

    Thank you so much for the excellent article. As I said it before, we all are counting on you to walk us through the muddy waters and you did. That said, was hoping you would touch on the dead silence of the cruel man, the reason that is, and in your opinion, what could be his next mover? Thanks again.

    • saay7

      Paulos:

      Thanks. On IA and what his next steps are and why, I believe that Ismail and Kbrom covered it comprehensively, better than I could. iSem also gave us an iSemian explanation but they don’t have tab, return keys in the computers in Canada so it all came out salata tursh (tossed salad:)

      saay

      • iSem

        Sal
        Listen computers were made in Canada. Bill Gate was Canadian, so was Edison:-)

        so were the Wright comrades, I mean brothers

        • saay7

          iSem:

          You were right the first time: it was Wright Comrades not Brothers. Because their sister was instrumental in keeping them focused and providing them emotional support as the two boys were….boys.

          Source: Comedy Centrals “Drunk History”

          saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            Feel free to bring Comedy Central into the discussion. The sanctions are forever lifted by the homegrown comedian:)

            I’m starting to compare PMAA with the Grand Chess Master of all time.
            He is using his Knight ( Badime) to checkmate the king and the queen at the same time.
            Of course you sacrifice the queen in this situation.
            Help me assign the king and the queen from TPLF and PFDJ.
            Thanks for your help.

    • Selamat Denmarkino and Admiral,

      On the silence:

      Hello Darkness my old friend
      I have come to talk with you again…

      ….
      ..
      And no one dared
      Disturb the sound of silence
      “Fools”, said I, “You do not know
      SILENCE LIKE A CANCER GROWS
      hear my words that I might teach you //<—–Saay7
      Take my arm that I might reach you"
      But my words //<— Saay7's
      like a silent rain drop fell and echoed
      In the wells of silence
      And the people bowed and prayed
      To the neon gods they made
      And the sign flashed its warning
      In the words that it was forming
      And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on
      subway walls And tenement halls
      And whispered in the sound of silence.

      ***********
      Simon and Garfunkel

      • saay7

        Hello GiAnt:

        Sometimes, an artist can interpret a song better than the person who wrote it. I refer you to an interpretation of The Sound of Silence by the band “Disturbed.” The lead singer has a much bigger range to his voice and changes it precisely to fit each verse, more than the original by Simon & Garfunkel. It raises the hair on the back of your neck…. but only if you connect with it, since music is personal

        saay

        • Admiral,

          Yes, Disturbed is very powerful vocals, I agree. Though the closest Eri song is one of your favorites: “መሲሉኒ ኣይኮነን ሓቀይ ኔር፡ ኣይ ሑሹኽታ ‘ንድዩ ዓው ዓው ዝፈጠረ።” Part of the lyrics right, or am I making it up?

          tSAtSE

  • MS

    Ahlan SAAY
    An excellent article, I take my hat off to your `abridged version of the process including your commentary on the current position Ethiopia has taken. It’s clear your educator’s hat is on today.
    Personally, I expected the pushback that would come from TPLF hardliners. TPLF has called an emergency meeting and will see what it produce. So far, its statements have not been encouraging.
    Now, everyone knows what TPLF meant when it said “we have to negotiate,” it wanted to undo the EEBC verdict.
    It will be interesting to see if the TPLF will be a law abiding-partner of EPRDF and stick to EPRDF’s position or it will try to incite people to pressure PMAA to change his position. It will also be interesting to see if TPLF remains within EPRDF or EPRDF will remain within TPLF.
    All in all, EPRDF’s internal friction is coming to light. We also know now that it has been TPLF that has kept the “no peace, no war” situation for this long.
    This development has the potential of challenging Ethiopia’s constitution, and possibly the survival and credibility of the young and enigmatic PM.
    We will see. But the signs are not encouraging. It has been a tale of promises and broken promises so far.
    Adi-Halo is awaiting a unified Ethiopian say. Until then stay tuned.

    • iSem

      Ahalen Mahmuday and also Sal:
      We had a Canadian PM, who was French, who spoke broken English and took him very long to become the PM. When he lost to an other nominee in the liberal convection the moderator said, Ladies and Gentleman, Jean Chretien, number two in our ballot but number one in our hearts: She meant that the convection elected strategically When he became PM when I was new to Canada, he used to say, he likes it when he is underestimated and as Sal said PMAA maybe deliver as it is easy to underestimate him and by deliver I mean he may withdraw from Badme and then these issues will confront Ethiopia 1. His real power, how much power does TPLF wield 2. TPLF have to answer for the Withdrawal 3. How about the negotiations that was the right thing to do: what happens to the people who lived there for 40 years now TPLF must answer hard questions but the most important thing is not the above, but this: If Ethiopia withdraws the border is demarcated, what is the implication for our justice, Democracy and the dawn of new future like Ethiopia. Say what you like about Ethiopia, there is new dawn, new change, it may not be the change the region needs, but it is change How will the fight against the tyrant.
      If the withdrawal works and Ethiopia moves its slow movement towards better country, the need for our border need to be demarcated first may create trouble for PFD
      Will PFDJ demobilize the national service who are at it for 20 years, it will create different excuse, like our land must be greened fore, the Badme that was so destroyed by TPLF and the oppositions need to be greened, our dams must be very strong, the remaining mosquitoes in Eritrea must be eradicate, our exiled elephants from gash Barak need to return home, our defeats who put us through this 20 years suffering must be identified, they are in our midst. And the supporters will sing this song of the lunatic and the border issue will be forgotten and if history is any guide people and the colourful, the zuriya, the ornament, the kobor will buy it and until PFDJ is either weeded out to aver that initiate genuine change towards justice by concrete evidence like releasing political prisons, and immediately implementing the cost, the suffering will continue and during the boom in Ethiopia like the last 20 years Eritrea will go bust. It is as simple as that.

      To the disappointment of the Ethiopian bashers Ethiopia has made visible progress, even TPLF made visible progress, most notable, its lifting its people from a century of servitude and serfdom, but it cannot coast on this success and now has an opportunity to remake itself and make a courageous stand in helping to forge peace as it still has power. This is a test for the real process in Ethiopia and a test for Eritreans if they can stand up to PFDJ and call its endless, ridiculous exercise. Should PFDJ opt for its survival at the expense our future, the demarcation is meaningless for us, we should aim higher.
      May Eritrea’s exiled elephants come home safe, may our rocks that TPLF burned be revitalized again. May our rivers and creeks the “hassadat” TPLF has buried flow again and may Adi- Hallo green our land and quench our stones and rocks. May water go/flow to where people are

      • Nitricc

        Hi Semere; I am sure this interest event, Ethiopia accepting has broken you heart. It is well known your desire for Weyane to invade Eritrea, that way PIA is dislodged. Well, sorry, finally a person with some sense showed in to Ethiopian political arena. I believe that Eritrea will cooperate fully with PMAA because he did the right thing by accepting fully without precondition. PIA has no choice but to move forward with process. It is time, our martyred citizens are honored their sacrificed wasn’t ignored. I have never believed that the border thing was an excuse for PIA to stay in power, never. The danger was real and the PIA had to do what he has to do. However; this time around, PIA must go beyond to close this deal and any other way will not end good for him. Simply Eritreans will not endure anything more under the current situation. So, aside all this childish take of yours, number on priority of the Eritrean government is to demobilize the army and regulate the national military service to its original time line and the rest political activity must follow. As far I can see this it for PIA.
        What I don’t get is, your Dedebit people. I mean, why they are resisting this peace approach. The people of Tigray are far more in danger than anyone. Their social culture and wellbeing of their people have been going down to the drain. Due to stationing hundreds of thousands of military personals; The number of single mothers is through the roof, the HIV is the highest in Ethiopia. I mean when you have that much army
        in no war zone, it is understood the social problem that are existed. This only can be solved by making peace with Eritrea. But like one EPRP member said it, “for TPLF it takes 10 years something to understand something we know today” in this case even 20 years couldn’t get it. Dedebit always Dedebit.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Nitricc
          The tplf(not the clueless egocentric foot soldiers aman and isem) is not resisting this peace approach, as u rightly said they need it more than anybody but they r acting as if they r resisting the peace approach and because after all they committed a lot of atrocity in ethiopia and the region, they r trying to influence pm AAA to make sure there is no pay back, that is the reason they acting resisting the peace approach.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Tedros,

            Why jump to attacks instead of focusing on the substance or views people express, and refute them in one way or the other? Hard rhetoric poisons calm environment for healthy of debate. Just consider your self being at the receiving end and get attacked for expressing your views. That is how I see it, and in case I messed up with what you think and believe, here is my apology in advance.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ismail
            I wasn’t intended to attack anybody. I was try to show that am talking about the tplf cc in mekele (those in a meeting in mekele) , not the tplf advocate.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; What do you think will happen if TPLF overrides PMAA and block the peace process. ETV is on pushing the peace process with Eritrea and they are educating and explaining to the public very well. While Tig-tv is all confused and in state confusion. Even the Tigrayan leadership have no clue on this one. In real world, the federal government calls what is be done country to country affairs but right now Ethiopia have two governments. One in Mekelle and the other in Addis. PMAA will prevail though.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I don’t think tplf have a power to override the pmAAA (eprdf) and block the decision.
            1st, eprdf system is still democratic centeralizm.
            2nd, they need the peace in order to survive. Without peace with eritrea , they understand and came to the point that they will lose welkyet and even power in tigrai.
            3rd, in my opinion, they need the peace morethan anybody else but they scared to death about the pay back of the atrocities they committed for the last 20 somthing years. And i think the confusion is they don’t know the way out without paying the price.

        • iSem

          Nitricc:
          Unlike you, I differentiate between PFDJ and IA and Eritrea. Are you sitting down, I still hope TPLF/the Debebitwan attack PFDJ, it is they who introduced us Debebiti, not people like Semere Andom, who know where belong to and hail from. I said it before, I say it again. And show me where I said they should invade Eri
          And I bet you 1 trillion brain cells that IA and PFDJ will not demobilize, will no initiate the rule of law even if Badme is vacated.
          IA and PFDJ and You endangered the Eritrean people, the former by their self-serving policies and you by your blind support.
          I PFDJ demobolizes, they will face issue: unemployment, unrest and without rule of law and reconcilliation, demobilizing will be their demise. And they know it
          Write these down as Saint Semere of Debebit prophecy.
          What is your bet, private Nitricc of Adi Hallo
          I agree with you on the no war no peace, the longer the army guarding dusty villages is not sustainable and shares the blame, but your PFDJ had a choice not to take us hostage because TPLF played them and took them hostage. I view it what will this unfold in terms of for us moving toward just, not how much IA will gain power or he is proved right.You seem to intimate that IA has been proved right, he maybe, but do not brace for a monument that will pay homage to every year in Eri once we democratize. you can writ that down too.

          • Nitricc

            Ayte Semere; you said “IA and PFDJ will not demobilize, will no initiate the rule of law even if Badme is vacated. IA and PFDJ and You endangered the Eritrean people, the former by their self serving policies and you by your blind support.” Well, then rest assured PIA will face the entire silent majority in his life. The Silent
            majority supported him because unlike you, the danger that was posed by your Dedebitawian. They understood the grave issue of the country going through. Yes, PIA deserves all the credits for honoring the dead and stand-by his words but without the silent majority who stack with him, he has no chance. Say if the border issue is solved and he does nothing to change things in Eritrea, it will change and it will end, but not so well for PIA. I know that, PIA knows that and the only person he doesn’t know is you and there is a good reason for it, slowness. Why do you lie though? I wish I had time to dig out when wished Dedebitawian to invade Eritrea. I wish just to show how you lie.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Hi Nitriccay,

          This site without you will become one sided..keep going..

          KS,,

      • Beyan

        Selam iSem,
        How beautiful those words flow-out when the veracity is on one’s side. I couldn’t help but smile – with a nod – throughout the rejoinder, eloquently put. What a biting remark! Sarcasm, humor, and astonishing ability to articulate your thoughts with such ease.

        At any rate, when the true believers open their mouths to support the unsupportable, I run to Shakespeare’s plays to find a reprieve and high-level humor. Since the monkey wrench* PMAA threw on the regime, the tyrant is biding his time, (1) for the right moment to eradicate the infestation that this monkey wrench will invariably initiate; (2) thus to see who from the upper echelons will buckle just the way the G15 did and their fate was sealed one by one; (3) if these fools do not buckle (they should be smart enough not to say anything in public until Nsu comes up with the fools-errand strategy), then and only then will they promote the “stroke of the genius”, whatever the tyrant thinks that is.

        Now, back to Shakespeare. The book I have been reading, coincidentally and is aptly titled “Tyrant” penned by a preeminent expert on Shakespeare, namely, Greenblatt. Through his brilliant analysis of King Henry’s and that of Richard III, you see the charlatan characters that we see in real time happening in the case of our Eritrea today. The sad part is that these plays of Shakespeare are over 400 years old, but remain true and relevant today with the election of Trump, which Greenblatt takes one appropriate swipe at. For our purposes though, “Tyrant” screams Nsu and his minions and the way in which he has been playing them reads like Shakespeare’s play. Reading the two plays, one would think that our homegrown tyrant has been reading Shakespeare’s plays…it is stunning how alike tyrants are in the way they behave to stay in power. Now, let me find my refuge in that book.

        Sincerely,
        Beyan

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Beyan,

          You was very much missed that Kokhob Selam and me felt a little bit impatient and launched a mini-campaign of enquiry at the initiative of KS. But SJ came out to calm the hot pursuit and released happy news that your absence was for you as well as our own good. I celebrated; and gave you as much time as you needed.

          But now I note that it is an expression of easily utilizable capacity to spare time for other things on the side of principal preoccupation. And, here you come with erudite inter-relation of literature and politics. Knowledge about past human experiences has no age or tenure of relevance as the points you have raised indicate.

          • Beyan

            Dear Ismail AA & KS,

            I must have missed those inquiries you mention above, because trying to keep up with some – now – more than 500 commentaries that are now under the breaking news piece from several days ago is next to impossible. I did follow – to the extent that I could Yohannes Zerai’s piece.

            But, as you alluded to it in your earlier entry, when Sal Y. sneezes I can’t help it but catch the cold, as it were. He is uniquely gifted in parsing complicated ideas to their discernible elements. The border ruling and the Nsu’s speeches I heavily rely on the experts of Sal Y. and the late Dr. Tekie’s caliber, who was another relentless fighter like Sal. So, on matters I feel fairly ignorant about I rely on those whose opinions I trust.

            Another one – to the chagrin of many I am sure is my friend YG – a phone conversation with whom gave me the proper perspective that balances the variant views and that crunched my thirst for some modicum of knowledge on this important development taking place in Ethiopia. YG’s PalTalk presentation few years ago he suggested I listen to titled “እዚ ስርዓት እዚ ንቡር ዝኸልእ ስርዓት’ዩ”. I highly recommend it for those who summarily dismiss the man because of his unconventional views of ghedli. But it is really a must listen to if one really wants to have a well rounded perspective on matters of the border, the homemade tyrant, and the like. He is going to give another presentation this Saturday on some PalTalk room, where he told me is better known by one of its hosts, namely, ‘Amiche’. I am looking forward to that talk. I don’t much care about PalTalk format, but I like the first part where the host gets ample time to address the issues he/she comes to present. That’s all I need for now to keep proper perspective.

            I am certain I am missing a lot, but SGJ is right it is for a good reason that I am keeping low key these days. I appreciate you and KS querying about my absence.

            Cheers,
            Beyan

          • saay7

            Hey Dr-In-Waiting Beyan:

            Thanks for the compliments and I will try not to sneeze because you can’t have the cold at this momentous time:)

            On Paltalk, here’s my takeaway:

            1. They should make it a debate, the way other media outlets do*. This is because (and I used to tell this to new instructors during orientation) there is nobody in this world who is so compelling that he or she will draw the undivided attention of the listener for more than 20 minutes. You may ask then how do you listen to PIA interviews and speeches? I used to take a bottle of whiskey and a gun but then I realized there are better ways: I read the shabait summary of it first, then take a bottle of whiskey and a gun. But this was ayam ajahlia wink wink.

            2. IF there is going be to a monologue or an opening statement, I don’t see why it is not pre-recorded and played: why does it have to be live, particularly in a medium famous for “microphone weiKatka ala”. An opening monalogue or opening statement that has to be recorded would force the presenter to actually have an outline instead of torturing the audience with his “ummm” and “abey niere” pregnant pauses. It would also ensure that their mic and speakers work.

            Pass it on to YG and Amche:)

            saay

            * the answer is hell no, iSem.

        • Paulos

          Selam Dr. Beyan,

          I just finished reading Abraham Zere’s great article appeared on Al Jazeera. He said, he spoke over the phone with some folks in Asmara and they said to him that, as much as they wanted to celebrate about the good news coming from Addis, they realized that they have forgotten what the word “celebration” stands for as they have been suffocated by a cruel, cruel and absolutely cruel man for far too long.

          And here you have the regime’s foot soldiers desperately trying to turn the opportunity into a crisis and shifting the focus from the young PM to the Weyanes in a bid to prolong the cruelty of the man at the helm. Abraham went on to say that, the folks in Asmara say, no more to lies and deceit and the cruel man well knows it that the end is around the corner.

          If I may say this, today the young PM helped his people released from Egyptian prison and they all boarded the plane back to Addis with him. Not only that, two OLF commanders boarded the plane with him as well as they abandoned Eritrea all together.

          And I beg you to compare the above gesture with the young Eritrean who chose to kill himself instead of being deported to Eritrea. This is the grim reality. History will definitely remember those not only kept silence when the cruel man destroyed a generation but gave him a breathing space in his marauding and predatory reign.

          • Beyan

            Selam Dottore,

            I read one of Abraham Zere’s previous pieces that he penned for the same media outlet. He superb. He does his homework by supporting his ideas with tangible evidence. This fresh piece of his I have not read yet. Glad you mentioned it, I will indeed read it later.

            Yep, the young PMAA shows that he values the life of his people and did the same when he visited Saudi. As usual, the Crown Prince was expecting him to beg for money like our tyrant does each time he visit. Contrast that with Zeresenay Ermias Testfatsion, barely 34 years of age. Eritrea has yet to claim the remains of the young man. But, don’t tell that to the Amen Corner. The continuation of what I shared earlier about Greenblatt’s book (“Tyrant”). He captures how the useful idiots are manipulated.

            *”The mob quickly apprehends a clerk and levels an accusation against him: “he can write and read.” Indeed, his accusers report, “We took him setting of boys’ copies” (4.2.81)—that is, preparing writing exercises for schoolboys. Cade undertakes to conduct the interrogation: “Dost thou use to write thy name,” he asks. “Or hast thou a mark to thyself, like a honest plain-dealing man?” (4.2.92–93)…[the clerk responds:]“Sir, I thank God I have been so well brought up that I can write my name.” “He hath confessed!” the mob shouts. “Away with him! He’s a villain and a traitor.” “Away with him, I say!” orders Cade, echoing the crowd’s demand. “Hang him with his pen and ink-horn about his neck” (4.2.94–99).”

            This is what we are faced with in diaspora while as Abraham Zerai rightly alluded to it in the piece I have yet to read that you mentioned; the people in Eritrea – unlike here – they know the Emperor has no clothes anymore. They are just waiting for an opportune moment to strike back.

            *Greenblatt, Stephen. Tyrant: Shakespeare on Politics (pp. 40-41). W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.

      • saay7

        Selamat iSem:

        I am going to let Berhe Y take the Canada issue: it’s always fun to read about intra-Canada politics. And by fun I mean it is a chore:)

        The question of how much power does PMAA wield vis-a-vis TPLF is a question that is being answered for us every day, live. What are the metrics you are using, iSem, because mine is who controls the levers of the state at the macro-level and who controls the powers of the state (to frustrate or what Trumpists here call the “deep state”) at the micro level. The former happens very quickly and the latter takes time.

        The TPLF does have a self-created problem: for 18 years now, it has been misrepresenting what the Algiers Agreement said and what the ruling of the EEBC is for 16 years. And because it controlled the FDRE, its position was that of the State. So , however it manages to align expectations with reality is dependent on opposition it faces in the one-party state of Tigray (non-existent), an independent media (non-existent), and an intellectual class that interprets the treaty for what it says and not what, from its perspective, it should have said (non-existent.) So, to me, this is a case of the great people of Tigray being betrayed by their political class, their media and their intellectual class (sound familiar?) But because the border issue is a macro (policy change) and micro (actual, on-the-ground implementation affecting thousands of poor people who had nothing to do with the mess created by politicians), it will require tact and the D-word.

        In Eritrea, the government did not forsee an EPRDF-member party that can stand to TPLF because the script forever was TPLF=EPRDF. If the PM delivers on what he has indicated–faithful implementation of Algiers including EEBC–the PFDJ has really no script for that. A person who barely follows the Eritea-Ethiopia case was exhausted by my explaining so this is what she wrote me: “so basically, PFDJ claim border issue requires indefinite national service and other oppressions; Ethio PM says he will settle the border issue; PFDJ and supporters say nothing; TPLF disapproves loudly; PFDJ supporters say, ‘Ha! we told you so!’ ” She nailed it in a few sentences what took me 5 pages to say:) Well, there are the fun ones: Elias Amare (who actually is part of some Eritrean think tank) says that the Prime Minister talked about border demarcation to distract attention from the privatization scheme, a wealth transfer from the state to TPLF….

        saay

        • iSem

          Hi Sal:
          BY will say. USA bad. Canada good. If you want unbiased,listen to iSem:-), BY: Why does Bill Gate have so much money. iSem: he earned it, BY: the Canadian vaccine is superior. iSem: show me, a canadian vaccine that was invented before the patent expire. BY:umm. iSem: let me help you, penniceluim that was inn the 1960
          BY: education is more expensive in the USA. iSem: no, is more
          expensive in Canada, it is not just Harvard and Brown
          BY: parl system is better than president, iSem: all the same, check and balances, presedential maybe even have more checks and balances
          you get the chore, i mean the idea
          I agree with the power of PMAA, but we need to see if TPLF does not make stupid coup, consistent using his power

          • Beyan

            Selam iSem,

            PMAA is moving at a neck breaking speed. For the old guards, he has become so hard-act-to-follow that they cannot fathom that speed and genuine attempt at rectifying matters of the old way of doing things can go hand in hand. He is barely 42 years of age. He has the stamina, the intelligence, the knack for a diplomatic language (unlike the aging tyrant of ours for whom diplomatic language is part of acquiescence and pandering). I listened earlier this morning to the speech that PMAA had given during an official invitation that was extended to him to visit Egypt, which is quiet a contrast to the old tyrant’s way of conducting national business. Let me jot down what I remember from the speech, since it is fresh in my mind. Let give it a stab. I am sure I am going to miss some, but hope the gist of it will resonate. Wish this was weekend, I would’ve shared the link. Short of that the following amateur translation will have to do.

            He said, paraphrasing here, that never will Ethiopia do anything that would harm its neighboring population of Egypt – He was referring to the use of the Nile… But what was striking in that speech is his assertion about how the media up to now was playing a role of instigator as opposed to as the fourth leg of governance…from here onward, the relationship with Egypt and the Middle East will be one of cooperation that would benefit both sides…

            As you know in Africa, one country seeks to undermine and destabilize another…this has been the modus operandi for the last century. The outcome of this approach nobody won and nobody benefited from such an approach… Moving forward, peace and development is the way … respecting one another is the way….In the past one hundred years, it was easy to disseminate news that fuels hatred and enmity. Today, however, there are 29 million Ethiopian students. Any agenda lacking veracity will have no place, because we have reached at a junction where that is next to impossible to institute, because of increasingly educated population we are continuing to have seems to be the reasoning here.

            An educated population needs truth. An educated population needs reason. What does our homegrown do close the very university that would’ve produced educated population that can challenge his reign of terror. Needless to say, his vision for Eritrea worked for his purposes as he created a slave camping, aka, SAWA. But, the tyrant knows the path that Ethiopia is taking will mean the end of his power, possibly a violent end will be likely, especially, if the deployment of the Eritrean troops from the border is done away with.

            Beyan

          • iSem

            Hi Dr. Beyan with out the hyphen
            How true that education goes a long way to emancipate people and IA knew that and that is why he moved the university away from the city and into the jungles. I think PFDJ bet on the TPLF will never relinquish power and that the changes were superficial but Ethio has 4 prime ministers under its belt, I am counting T. Layne, too 🙂
            Two elections and there is no going back, going back will mean trouble, unless TPLF takes back the power in the next election, which is 2 years away, But the dissolution of TPLF is good of Ethiopia and like the Jews, the Tigrayans know they would never go back to times before 1991 and I believe they have factored that in
            What is going on in Ethiopia is real renewal, real new blood, teh old are slowly relinquishing power as envisioned by MZ.
            In our case new blood means, new subservient, new to the game, who want to please and seek the protection of IA like a true slave
            Thanks Beyan for injecting literature , our King Lear may soon go mad as faces the Cordelia, those who refuse to flatter hims as he divides his kingdom before his kicks the backs.
            One more note: I also think of the tyranny of the educated class as happened in Germany, when Hilter came and the educated, the professors all abandoned their Jews colleagues and some even tried to isolate the blue eyes gene, while their thug had no blue eyes nor blond hair. What is equally important is the creation of a society that make rule of law believe in sacrosanct and guard it like a hawk lest ppl like Trump shred it

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay and iSem,

            No disagreement on the former PM. I had a French Canadian room mate who said, “you think his English was bad, but his French is worst”. The PM had some medical condition that affected his speech.

            Your love with all US is the best is as we say “adiAa gedifa Hatnoa Tinafiq”, may be you should put some focus on Canadians:).

            You say nothing was donated before patent expired? How about insulin where the founders sold it for $1, to a public institution and never to profit from. In Canada it’s regulated and it costs few cents to make, buy in the US it costs 10 times more because of the “free market”.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            Neither Insulin nor Pennicilum is vaccine, by the way. Wish insulin was a vaccine, lots of ppl would be helped. But close to one, they are testing now insulin that only once in years, once injected it works like you no need to do it every time u eat, it may end insulin need as well. But not in Canada.
            Insulin has its own politics, not fit for this form, but yes,it was a Canadian invention and buy the way they won Nobel, a first family doctor to win that

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Better than vaccination for insulin Pfizer is waiting for FDA insulin inhalation approval. That is a great breakthrough. Original the Chinese started it in early 90s.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            I know you were going to say that :). Your argument sounds from Adulisian. Correct me if I wrong, but the point I was making how insulin was donated to serve the better good of humanity and those who invented did not benefited. If they were, there would not be any problem, but it was a simple example to your claim “it was not given after the copy right expired”.

            It may not be the perfect solution but it has served for its time and saved millions of lives. If better alternative is created, the better but I doubt it will be provided at affordable rate specially if it’s from the country of, you know who.

            Berhe

        • Amde

          Saay,

          Remember that van Damme Volvo truck commercial? TPLF was/is van Damme. Look it up if you haven’t seen it. Couldn’t make up its mind if it was with Ethiopia or Eritrea (sans Isayyas) and now the moment of reckoning is at hand.

          Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            That Van Damme Volvo truck commercial classic was designed to showcase (a) the splitting powers of Van Damme, yes, but more importantly (b) the precision of the steering of Volvo trucks, who paid for it. So, I don’t think Van Damme (TPLF) is going to try it because it doesn’t trust the precision steering of the volvo (Ethiopia Federal Gov.)

            In my view, TPLF will have 1,001 gemgams, get reformed, and try to claw its way back to power. It will be a slow and painful process but they earned the pain.

            saay

      • MS

        Ahlan iSem-Rebash
        Good to hear from you. If you remember ions ago Nitrickay, or was it me, made some observations. Let’s call them tarikhawyan Te’Ezbttat, according to the Akhieba Tekhli dic.
        1. There are no Ethiopia bashers but folks who criticize the destructive policies of TPLF- in Ethiopia and towards Eritrea.
        2. We hinted to you and your queen that unless the TPLF-dominated gov of Ethiopia made radical and swift changes, TPLF’s power would dissolve ክሓቕቕ እዩ, please don’t let Emma know I said ክሓቕቕ እዩ።
        3. Also, there was an important message underlined that said that any opposition that was dependent on the existence of a foreign power could exist and be active only as much as that foreign power allows it to be and do. I told you that “tomorrow IA and Ethiopia could hammer out an agreement, where do you go?” I don’t know what PMAA’s and his EC’s proposal mean to the peace process and to the opposition but it is a reminder that the time when countries host opposition camps to harass their adversaries should end; the opposition should make a paradigm shift. It should wash its hands and pursue peaceful means, hence make Eritrea its host.
        4. Also, it shows that Eritrea’s position not to entertain TPLF’s “let’s negotiate” was prudent because it would mean sitting to dilute or alter the EBBC ruling, as we see it now, TPLF thugs revolting against their PM, not sure how TPLF would proceed, I have not followed its trajectory for the last 12 hours.
        5. Peace-loving Eritreans should invest more with the people of Ethiopia and Eritrea, time to divorce TPLF and its destructive ideology.
        7. TPLF cadres are the single most threat for regional peace, not Eritrea.
        ምስ ሰውራዊ ሰላምታ
        ካብ ሕሽክብ

        • iSem

          Hi MS: Good to hear from you

          Athough, I replied under your comment, isntad of opening a ndw thread, the basher comment was not for you, but as the Sudanese say, aleendu hurgus…:-))

          No, it was me who criticized the oppositoon for nor having back up plal, for betting on Ethiopia, in case Ethio or TPLF reconciles with PFDJ for their own interest, The data prince, Sal can get us the data;-)

          Now come on, MS, do not conflate Eritrea with PFDJ. What is the difference between TPLF and PFDJ? Yes, I agree Eritrea is not a threat, bu PFDj and IA are

          But peace with Ethiopia, whatever peace IA does is to save his butt, not Eritrea, he probably could give them Assab as BY has said

          IA will not hesitate to gamble Eritrea, to sell Eri to the river, that is how I see the peace. is it going to elongate the damage of the country Eri or hasten the demise of PFDJ

          MS, I have no clue about the intrigues of TPLF, what makes them trick, but I know you do. What I know is this, given the circumstance, they have done good for their ppl and their country Tigray, very underwhelming , I guess having seen what spectacular job PFDJ did for Eritrea.

          And since we are quoting ourselves, le me do the same: The opposition will come to regret when Ethiopia looking for its interest makes peace with Eritrea. Ethiopia does what it does for its own interest, the same with TPLF for Tigray, now what PMAA has dome is for the same self interests, I want to see that with PFDJ.

          Do not worry about Emma, he cannot hear that you said ክሓቕቕ እዩ, he has been dissolved by the now dissolving TPLF:-)
          PMAA is doing as he should for his country.
          But one thing is for the dissolution of TPLF is good for Tigray but it is not going to happen overnight, but remember some predicated the dissolution of Ethiopia, what is bad for TPLF is good for Tigray and that is a good thing, point is it the citizens, the Tigryans who are opposing TPLF, but it is the TPLF who is allowing them to oppose.
          When TPLF dies, there will always be the celebration of the founding of TPLF, PMZ will always be remember and lionized. In Eri EPLF will always be remembered, the heroes buried by IA and imposters will be remembered, but PFDJ and IA ,no, that is the difference. But I hasten to add, there are some who are angling for IA canonization and if you are wondering where is Gheteb he is doing the final touches on the canonization benediction
          Sem from Ela Abdella;-)

          • MS

            Ahlan iSem
            I did not know SAAY was doing the prelude for this great article when he was interrogating me yesterday like the Tegadalit who made you to cut your stay short in Hishkeb, but it turned out to be a great article.
            I kind of agree with most of the points (it’s rare that we politically agree but it is also rare that we misunderstand and disrespect each other). I have a clear line of thought when it comes to compounding issues. PFDJ is irrelevant to me when we discuss the border issue because I think of any government that would have been dealing with similar issues. But when it comes to the domestic policies, things are different.
            On the role of PFDJ and IA vis-a-vis the opposition, I’m developing a different path (ማይ ዘይጠዓመ) hopefully, you will read it in the future and you will not be happy about it.
            Thanks for your camel-type-memory (or elephant memory), i.e, for remembering my position on Ethiopia because I had to remind Horizon yesterday about it. Now you beat Nitrickay on that.
            On the rest, the makers and the breakers are TPLF, we have been stuck for the last 16 years because of them, and now, I don’t know if they will come into the line with PM Abiy Ahmed, but we will need to acknowledge the bold initiative he has taken the calls of Ethiopians to resolve the situation based on the legal framework.

          • Ismail AA

            Hayak Allah MS,

            “PFDJ is irrelevant to me when we discuss the border issue “. I wish that could be the case. But whether one likes it or not, it’s the government at the other end of the equation. The dilemma is who would shake it to become relevant and interact positively in the service of peace in which our people have real stake harassed by urgency. Remember families are having sleepless nights every birth day of their children. They wish a day they could sleep soundly and not wish if their children postpone growing -that damn Sawa and conscription.

          • MS

            Ahlan Ustazna
            With all due respect, the ball is on the other side when it comes to this. When I say PFDJ is irrelevant, I mean I would say what I’m saying to any Eritrean government because the issue is something concerning international borders of Eritrea.
            If you mean why it does not say something in response to PMAA, I was about to post an article about the need of saying something official even if it was for PR but TPLF’s expected behavior, the possibility of scrambling to distance itself from the PM, made me hold on to it.

          • Ismail AA

            Good morning Ustaz MS,

            The respect is always mutual, and thanks for elaborating the point. However, in my view, the attitude of leaving the ball on the side of the Ethiopians translates to what the PFDJ government badly needs: letting it free to keep on waiting and waiting until the other side tires and the ignores the issue and move on. The net effect of this would be to the disadvantage of our people who need peace more than the the counterpart.

    • saay7

      Selamat MaHmuday:

      I made this analogy somewhere; let’s see if it holds: in Sudan, Kessela State (bordering Eritrea) occasionally makes statements that are not cleared by Khartoum (Sudan’s capital.) When that happens, Adi-Halo doesn’t say, “wait, we are confused, who is in charge of Sudan’s foreign policy; lets just say nothing until things get clarified.” You will get a statement from MoFA and an editorial from MoI.

      It is in Eritrea’s interest to ignore the noise from TPLF (a friend would call it ሕማም ሕርሲ) and deal directly with EPRDF. If we wait for EPRDF and TPLF to work out their drama, it will be a (yet another) missed opportunity.

      saay

      • MS

        Marhaba SAAY
        I Totally agree. I would not exclude some sort of communication taking place perhaps through their lawyers and diplomats, may be facilitated in the offices of AU and UN. PR is not IA’s forte and that is not good at this era, as we discussed the other day. PMAA is a PR savvy and is of the new information age generation. It is astonishing to see MOI responding to Aljazeera, Lebanon papers and Indian Ocean newsletter reports but fail to say something about a possibly consequential statement from the Ethiopian Federal gov’s side.
        Well, done and said my friend, your article and the defense you put up to further strengthen it are great; your credibility is intact, one stick for wayane and the other for PFDJ.

        • saay7

          Selamat MS:

          Do you think it is acceptable for Adi Halo to deal with this via back channels (assuming its happening) when the front channel has a gaping hole?

          If, as you said, MoI and MoF find the time to “rebut resolutely” every obscure thing by every obscure news outlet, why can they not find their voice here? I mean ስቕ ካብ ዘይመርፁ ብዙሕ ጌሮም so they can’t even give that as an excuse. Ismail gave his reasoning: this is a test of loyalty to see who wanders off the reservation. I think it’s also because some portfolios are the exclusive domain of IA and even the most “senior” folk are not permitted to comment until they see the smoke signals from Adi Halo. I mean it’s ok to reiterate old stuff (Eritrea accepted the ruling a long time ago, as Yemane GMeskel said) but nobody is allowed to react. Except, u know, Estifanos. But that’s why he is in Japan. Until Eritrea opens an embassy in French Polynesia which is its antipode.

          saay

          • MS

            Ahlan Saleh
            ተረዲአካ ኣለኹ። ካልኣይ ኣባጎብየ ናብ ዓዲ-ሃሎ ሰዲድና ኣለና። ግዜ ክወስደሉ እዩ። ዓዲ ሃሎ ከይበጽሐ ከኣ ካልእ ዘቃጽል ወረ ክመጽእ እዩ። ናይ ሎም ዘመን ዘብዘብ ንበይኑ እዩ። እንድዒ፡ መስኪናይ ጎብየ እንተከኣሎ። ሃለው ዓዲ-ሃሎ!!

          • saay7

            Hala MaHmuday:

            ድሕሪ ሰውራዊ ሰላምታ:

            እሞ አግረ መንገድኹም ንብጻይ ኣስመላሸ ድማ ሓዳስ ባኖ ሰደድሉ:: ናይ ኣባሓግኦም በድላ ጌሮም ድማ ማሕሙዳዊ ሓተታ ከይእውጁልና:: ህጹጽነቱ ኣቃልቦ ክግበረሉ ካብ ምዝኽካር ኣይንቁጠብን::

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            I wonder about his ባድላ. I don’t know ማራ ስለዝቐጠነ እዩ መስለኒ እታ ባድልኡ ካቦት እያ መሲላ. I say, it is time for a new downsized ባድላ for Asmelash. ብተቓወምቲ መዳይ ከይተረፈ ከም ኣጀንዳ ክታሓዝ ዘለዎ ነገር እዩ.

          • Paulos

            Muhamuday,

            That is really funny. You should see me laughing.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam saay and the rest of the forumers,

    This is yet another masterpiece. Kbrom, you had predicted the predictable prediction yesterday evening when saay whispered to you an article was on its way to the front page. This Saleh-bin-Abdulraham-bin Ahmad Al Younis has become Bill Gate of Awate.com in accumulating wealth of masterpieces. May Almighty increase his wealth for sake of us all and keep away eyes of the jealous, Amen.

    Yours truly is a timid and cautious creature. If I were to mess up with an attempt to assess an assessment built on extraordinary capacity of memory that when needed delivers easily consumable summary of most complex stuff such as the matter on hand, I would do it at my own peril because saay would be blessed by too many fouls in around the penalty area of my side of the field.

    So, I will limit my cursory remarks on the scenario that concerns us most as Eritreans, namely, on how the dictator would respond to the EPRDF offer when it transforms to executable policy that would solicit involved of relevant parties such AU and UN. Experience of similar occasions tells me that kubur prezident resorts to his usual weapon: tight lipped silence. This has served him well in gauging mood with in the perimeters of his party. Of course out side that has never been his worry. This is what saw playing out after the dust of hot war had settled and the horrible cost in lives and material emerged.

    Devastating wait in limbo renders some people so frustrated that they starting to talk and ask questions, while committed loyalist keep lips tightly closed. At that moment, Nsu updates his list of victims among whom the luckiest would be the frozen. This time around, too, I would put my money on the option of silence that might allow mouthpieces like the Yemanes would try to recycle old claims and complaints to keep the grass root loyalists keep the momentum of jingoism by staging “goylas” until “our leader” comes with some precondition targeting the upholding the current situation as it is because the Ethiopians would surely not dance alone, and when tired pack and leave Badme or any other place. Unfortunately the burden of no-war-no war would remain on the back of our people.

  • sara

    Dear saay..
    beautifully written with all the issues of the conflict past and present, thanks saay hawna..if you permit i will print make copies and a pass it to my friends and family when we gather
    for iftar tomorrow.

  • Haile S.

    Selam Sal,
    A beautifully and concisely narrated history of the conflict. The image you and/or Awate chose to accompany your piece is beautiful. A Moses in modern suite parting the sea of absurdity to free a region out of an impasse. May he be preserved from unterior-motives that afflicted his predecessors and find a listening interlocutor on the other side of the ‘sea’.

  • Hope

    Holly Molly:
    I wish u were in PIA’s Position,man!
    Doing all these analysis and breakdowns and even Solutions in a matter of few hrs?
    May God bless you ,man!

  • Kbrom

    Dear saay

    Good reading; this is really good reminder but where is the main stakeholder – the Government of Eritrea – No! I mean the shop of PIA – in this article.

    Are we assuming that the narrative of ‘we already accepted it – nothing new’ as a statement. If yes, I believe we should not because that was said because the ‘officials’ are confused what to say and have to say the safest line because when they talk they do not address to the interviewer they see a large, ugly, and frightening creature called PIA looming over their head. When you wrote about Alamin’s interview I was saying I hope saay understands Alamin does not believe one point of what he was saying; in fact he is one of the prime victims ( his wife was banned from going with him to UAE when he was going to UAE for medication). You hear him when he was saying,ኣበይ ኢኻ ዝብለካ የለ ተደሊኻ ትገይሽ ተደሊካ ትድቅስ Alah Yesamhu!

    So these are my question; can you see how this questions would fit into your masterpiece article?
    what would be the reaction from PIA,
    From which angle will he see the new development; I am assuming that ‘not from real demarcation point of view’ as a known fact
    why is he dead silent ( ኣየ መንግስትና ዓቃል!)
    why did he send Osman and Yemane to Washington just a day after PMAA’s statement
    isn’t it a political suicide for PIA to accept this statement as he can rein his people only under real or perceived enemies
    do you see a PIA gibberish, unclear press release that leaves readers with more questions than answers coming soon or he will keep it for his 20th June speech.
    do you think PIA is able to pay the ( billions of dollars) compensation the claims commission ordered to be paid
    what would be the Eritrean people’s reaction
    what would be the reaction of the people in the areas of Tsorona
    it is said that PMAA wants to talk only with UN and not with Eritrea directly what do you think
    do you think PMAA have plans B and C and what he is doing is just to put the ball in PIA’s court (knowing PIA’s behaviours)
    what would be the role of external forces
    what do you think about the two floating concepts by TPLF i.e. the statement to be seen as package and dialogue

    PS the TPLF chairman will conduct an extensive interview so I think we need to read that interview instead of depending on the interview by the spokesperson. In Tigray making statement is like drinking a cup of water in our rural areas we call it ብእግሪ ኣያ ዑቕባይ!