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Ethiopia & Eritrea: A Faustian “Peace” Bargain with the Devil?

The question of economic opportunities being given to our neighbors before Eritreans, calls for a separate analysis. The question of spiritual proselytizing in public being given to our neighbors in Amharic before Eritreans call for a separate analysis. The question of refugees right to return being left untouched so far when Eritreans are languishing at the doorsteps of our neighboring countries, namely Sudan, calls for a separate analysis. Whilst keeping the fluid nature of Ethiopian-Eritrean peace negotiations in mind, trying to capture the big picture of where things might be headed is a worthy endeavor. Not to mention the question of geopolitics, which is not only critical but has several components that call for a separate analysis. In this opinion piece, only one component of the latter will be addressed, namely notions of Pan Africanism.

Pan Africanist in the Making

Can Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed be the Pan Africanist leader who can deliver peace in the region? He has all the ingredients necessary to be that and more. He is highly intelligent, poetic in his oratory. And he is not shooting in the air or waving his swords. The days of politics of the warrior (zeraf and ere- geday)* are long over. The three thousand years of Ethiopia’s warrior history is finally in its waning phase with the ascendance of Abiy Ahmed to the highest cabinet post.

The days of Fiyyel WeTeTe** is so 1978, it has no place in 2018, which appears to be the unambiguous PM Abiy Ahmed’s message as he embodies notions of peace and love in his political philosophy. Three things are readily available for PM Abiy to base his moral imperative to lead the Pan Africanism wagon: (1). The Horn of Africa has had written languages as far back as any others in the world; (2). The earliest human existence can be traced back to the millions of years as Lucy (Dinkinesh) is its supportive evidence; (3). The Horn of African region is one of the many areas where agriculture was independently developed some 10,000 years ago. Such irrefutable knowledge is based on historical facts. We may be at the precipice of going beyond the three-thousand-year history of war. There is more of the historical narrative of civilization and development that can be narrativized if we only focus on our own history rather than on European and the West telling us what our history is. This is where Pan Africanism can kick in giving us the needed impetus to thrive as a people of the Horn.

The Politics of the Uncultured

The politics of the uncultured who would break glasses full of blood as a symbol when delivering a public speech to show that they are the ultimate brutes is long over. Love and poetic languages are much more potent and effective potions as was evident in recent days. The question that remains unanswered and that remains to be seen is whether Eritrea’s dungeon maker can be rehabilitated and build social and political institutions instead?

Can Eritrea’s Dungeon Maker Become A Peace Partner?

Can the same be said about Eritrea’s Dungeon-Builder, in which innocent Eritreans have been holed underground by the very man that PM Abiy Ahmed is making that Faustian bargain of peace with? Now that the euphoria has subsided; that the man at the helm in Eritrea is back in his haunted castle and where the slaughterhouse will welcome him back; where he will hear those whistles of tormenting ringing in his mind’s eye; where the bells of torture will chime in his ears when Asmara’s Cathedral strikes its midnight toll; where he alone makes any decisions he wishes moving forward; it remains to be seen what he does domestically. Would he free the unjustly imprisoned? Would he institute some modicum of governance with some sort of constitution by which the country and its people would abide by? Would he allow free movement of citizens? Would he allow the convening of more than three people in one gathering? This is an awesome power to readily dispose of.

Can anyone see a comedic irony in the surreal peace process in which we were made to witness? With the great fanfare at our disposal as we watched we could chronicle and chime-in our thoughts in real time in the myriad of social media venues of our choosing. Can there be peace between two nations with a population on one side being sidelined? Can Ethiopianism and Eritreanism remain as independent entities? The former is at a huge advantage to keep its identity intact because its people are free to voice their views. As for the latter, only the man at the helm says what Eritreanism is and by golly, it shall be so, at least in the duration of this peace process. Can this prove to be an error of countless “isms” that we’ve been hearing about of late? So many questions and no discernible answers that can be ascertained at this time but are left at the disposal of time to inform us and waiting eagerly and anxiously is the only option.

The Politics of Love

In June and July of 2018 Ethiopians and Eritreans have seen what it is like to arrive at the politics of love – to the poetics of politics in Ethiopia, where, for the first time, the nation of 100 million is ruled by someone who is cultured, who is highly educated; one whose oratory skills match that of Obama, save the teleprompter for the latter and the plagiarism insinuations of the former for the former colonizers and their progenies to shed crocodile tears for. PM Abiy can voluntarily strip off his Ph.D. title and would still be that cultured individual who has the gravitas and the enthusiasm to have massive followers as he does now. Our region has been transformed seemingly overnight. The Politics Turn from its masculinity to the politics of gender neutrality is taking shape in real time. The barbaric language that goes with war and hate is now replaced with the language of love and plenty of hugs.

Would what we have seen over our computer screen become a veritable explosion of love, of brotherhood, of sisterhood, of fraternity, and of difference between and among Eritreans the likely scenario? Could the same be said of our uncultured brute? Is what we have seen paranormal? You bet it is. But, does it make it any less palpable for peace to reign in the region? Not really. It is more than palatable if PM Abiy begins to see beyond the man at the helm of power in Eritrea. Making a bargain with the devil can be used as a stepping stone toward permanent peace with Eritrea, but not as the be-all and end-all.

The Bullet Train of Peace and Love

Attempting to make sense when a neck breaking bullet train of peace is on the move is an exercise in futility. But, no matter what, at this junction of Eritrea’s history, Pan Africanism and/or peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea can only have a lasting effect if and only if Eritreanism is kept intact. Overlooking notions of the latter even at the level of one port like Assab will be a Faustian bargain that will come back to haunt the region afresh. The deafened silence of Eritreans by the brute force at the helm will inevitably unravel at the proportions of the thirty-year-war-of-independence or worse.

Injecting Personal Views on the Current Events

The measuring yardstick should never come from a place where Eritreans’ voice is muffled and coerced. Listen to a young woman who lost an arm during the 1998 -2000 war with Ethiopia, it will give you an inkling how deep the wounds of war still resonate, not at a physical level but at the raw emotions that moves a listener at a visceral level. As if that wound wasn’t enough, the young woman’s older brother has been posted on the border between Ethiopia and Eritrea for the last twenty years***. Of course, the Asmara residents will come out in droves if they are told to come out to receive anybody that the regime deems appropriate to do so. Anything short of what the Eritreans in Asmara did in receiving PM Abiy Ahmed can be costly. These are people held hostage for the last quarter of a century by the regime in power. Those who have lived under the yoke of the monarchy of Ethiopia know this all too well. Those who lived under the Derg of Ethiopia also know this too well.

So, Eritreans inside Asmara are the anomalies and one doesn’t make conclusive remarks based on exceptions to the rule. It is certain that these Eritreans want peace, but open the border wide in both directions, the direction of the movements will tell the truth. The discomfort created as a consequence of anomalous conditions that distort the specter of truth through the endless visual images of hugs and loves between the two leaders can proffer a false narrative. But, as viewers, we must stay vigilant against some such dispensations. Visual literacy and critical lens combined with our ability to historicize, contextualize what we see with the intent of analyzing the blatant messages and the subtle images, is par for the course.

Meanwhile, hope for Eritreans inside and abroad on the specter of peace being created in the horizon, that chance for us all to see our region try peace for a change, is of monumental import. The only one getting in the way of peace, ironically, is the very man with whom PM Abiy is forging a peace accord. In the final analysis, I am not going to pin my hopes on the man at the helm changing his ways, but I am more than willing to remain on the sideline and watch it unfold. Cheering for peace and hoping for peace to materialize gives me that hope that I know Eritreans will prosper in no time because they’ve done it in the past they can certainly do it within the proximity of the country as they did from without as in Ethiopia and beyond. Political affiliations are such difficult positions to be in when new occasions call for a new way of assessing, synthesizing, analyzing. It is my ardent hope that those of us who have hardline positions against the man at the helm – will take a mortarium – however brief to see if the man can change his ways.

References:

*Search in YouTube titles such as Fukera Ethiopian Music & ሽለላ
**Yefyel weTeTe was a rendition that would come through the radio preceding any ominous announcement that the Derg of Ethiopia was to dispense.
*** The poet, Rumana Berhanu captures how an underage girl valiantly fought in the 1998-2000 war with Ethiopia. This is a voice being dislodged without any coercion as she lives in Sweden.
**** Best Original Rap — The Warriors’ song… ዘራፍ አካኪ ዘራፍ !

About Beyan Negash

Activist, a writer and I am a doctoral candidate (ABD) in Language, Literacy, and Culture at New Mexico State University (NMSU). I hold a bachelor of arts in English and a master of arts in TESOL from NMSU as well as a bachelor of arts in Anthropology from UCLA. My research interests are on colonial discourse and post-colonial theories and their hegemonic impact on patriarchy, cultural identity, literacy development, language acquisition as well as curriculum & citizenship. The geopolitics of the Horn of Africa interests me greatly. My writings tend to focus on Eritrea and Ethiopia. I have been writing opinion pieces at awate.com since its inception (1 September 2001).

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  • Abraham H.

    Selam Now inc., I understand it has been a hectic time for both govs, in contrast to Eritrea you know how much has been accomplished in Ethiopia in terms of reforms. And I don’t think the Eritrean despot needs any time to declare amnesty to all those languishing in his countless prisons; no time needed to declare a return to the nromal 18 months for the NS, no time needed to encourage those who are opposed to his policies to excercise their political and citizen rights; no time needed to lift the ban on independent press, etc. But, as I said, time will show us whether the despot is equally interested to bring normalization in Eritrea as with the neighboring countries. Our decades long experience with the man is not so optimistic, but, of course, it is allowed to be hopeful.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam george, just to list some.
    -release all political prisoners and prisoners of conscience
    -initiate an era of reconciliation
    -bring the culprits who’ve been brutalizing Eritreans to justice, including himself
    -18 months of NS
    -rehabilitation and proper compensation of those Eritreans who’ve been serving for years if not for decades for meagre pay
    -Allow the return of Eritrean refugees to their lands and homes
    -End the monopolization of the economy by the pfdj and allow Eritreans to participate, with clear investment rules
    -End the culture of impunity and implement rule of law
    -Allow freedom of expression in all forms
    -Begin the process of Constitution making with all political stakeholders
    etc
    PS. some of the issues here may demand a lot of resources and capital to realise, but if the Eritrean regime is really serious about them, it can get the necessary aid from governments, ngos, and even Eritreans themselves who are willing and able to rebuild their country.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Now inc, well, good that you see some optimism, I’m not that optimistic as far as the despot is at the helm of power in Eritrea. If he really cared to make changes to his abysmal record, we might have seen some of them already. What we seen so far is that he is only interested in mending his relations with Ethiopia, while keeping the internal affairs of Eritrea untouched. Anyway, we will see.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Abraham,

      I think we should see the opportunity this changes has brought for Eritreans to demand change as you are doing now. And the demand should get lauder and stronger as says and weeks goes by and eventually we will get there.

      I agree with you, we should not expect anything good from IA willingly to change, but the circumstances have changed to make it possible. I think in this regard we should see the Ethiopian PM as a partner for change instead of enabler of the dictatorship.

      Today I saw that Asmara is decorated with Somalian flag and there is a state visit of the Somalian president this weekend.

      This is good news and with all this opening up will also make the PFDJ open up some cracks that will force or accept the change.

      Berhe

      • Bayan Negash

        Selam Berhe,

        Well said, brother. Any effort on my part trying to add to your entry above will only dilute the message.

        Beyan

        • Berhe Y

          Dearest Beyan,

          I didn’t get a chance to comment but great articles.

          I will never praise or give credit to IA, because he knowingly put the Eritrean people through so much and he continues to do so. Until Eritrea becomes a country governed by law and the will of the people, out struggle continues.

          But we have to pick a fight that we will have good chance of winning rather than shooting aimlessly. Not from you off course, but we have to accept where things are and work with what we gave. The relation ship Ethiopia and others having with Eritrea, is nothing we can do about but we have to work around it or though it.

          The office of the PM of Ethiopia, soon Somalia, AU, UN, US and others, become our gateways to our demand for justice instead of closed doors. If the government is to open its doors for business, it will need to change a lot of things at home.

          For example, if it changes the policy in national services, countries like Israel are already looking at deporting thousands of Eritreans back. This sound cruel for me from my comfort to see as an opportunity, but it’s a great deal of assets that can create change inside the country. So educating about peaceful resistance like what the qerro movement did in Ethiopia will force the government.

          I know it’s news and we have to talk about it, but all this craze that IA is going to sold off Eritrea to Ethiopia and he handed over the keys, or Mesfin Hagos interview, is all useless exercise that we shouldn’t spend time with. If anything, we should be vigilant to such idea and open our history books from the 50s and remind what has happened to Eritrea and Ethiopia wasted decades.

          The case of Eritrean refugees in Sudan and Ethiopia should also take center stage and demand for their return home and live in peace.

          Berhe

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Berhe Y,

            I really admire the way you present possible course of action to a given problem. Most of us usually do one or the other, and even then not as succinctly as you have been doing lately.

            You must be a great engineer in real life!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Berhe Y,

            Did you say soon Somalia leader is visiting Asmara? Oh! I am sure Issue will gift him Eritrea and his leadership too. Really, we have a very generous leader; I don’t know what will remain to USA, Ronald Trump. As all know, Trump is a guy accustomed to big presents. I don’t think he will be satisfied by the remains from Ethiopia and Somalia. Eritrean President outstrips him his emotions; he has sold his leadership to a poor guy. He is not a clever trader; I think he is dervish. If that is not the case, he should have sold it to a guy like Trump with good revenue. I guess he only knows how to sell BELES, and everything compares it with that commodity.

            Indeed, we are in a fast era, celebration after celebration, a series of celebrations. I hope not to end soon so as our great leader will not be squeezed to declare the freedom of detainees in his dungeons.

          • saay7

            Hala Hameed:

            Is this a good time to mention that if Isaias had his way, if the policy he had proscribed for Somalia had succeeded, there would never be a President Abdullahi Mohammed “Formajio” to welcome to Eritrea?

            I have been using a great line gifted by a friend to describe Isaias and Isaisism: “bulls eye drawn, after a dart is thrown.” Bumble and Ramble aimlessly, observe all your plans go down the toilet, then, whatever happens, declare, “that is going exactly according to my plan!” Abiy is the result of EPRDF constitution; Formajio is the outcome of the internationally-recognized Djibouti-based ARS, in opposition of whom Isaias squandered much of Eritrea’s time and resources and got Eritrea sanctioned in the process. But now, hey, it is all part of the grand plan.

            saay

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            This one and the other comment you put are simply the best I ever read from you and if I hade known you have such I believe it would be a great background for me because your weyane defense was irking me a lot . You can actually get sometimes to broaden your views and put as an article. You have a great points that many hawakish will not like it but it is the right idea . I hope you give it a go because such idea against some one who said “There will perhaps be need for an Eritrean Mohammed Bouzizi’s Sidi Bouzid to turn the smoldering fire into flames. Acria nearly did it before long ago’’ Your points will show him perfect way that no one supports his idea of burning someone in the streets.

            Great points that everyone should look at. Thanks

          • Acria

            Selam Berhe,
            The new peace relationship with Ethiopia, we still need to see its complete implementation, is good news for all concerned citizens. My only concern is that most Eritrean asylum seekers will be in jeopardy of rejection of their asylum cases by the respective governments. We have do be mindful that mere utterance of peace with both countries without actual peaceful implementation of concrete measures is an immature reason to deny or hold asylum applications. We have to voice our objection to this subjective denial of applications and call our attention to the undemocratic status que of the PFDJ regime.

      • Acria

        Selam Berhe,
        I always believed that real change should come from inside, not outside. The opposition in diaspora have cried for change in Eritrea, but to no avail. It looks like change might be coming from outside and as such from non-Eritrean agent, PMAA. Either way, I am hoping that positive change will come out of this new relationship with Ethiopia and Somalia. This doesn’t mean that Eritreans will have to stop our demand; rather, we have to support this change and press PFDJ to make real democratic changes. It is also necessary that Djibouti and Sudan initiate bilateral relationship with Eritrea to warn their relationships.

    • Bayan Negash

      Selam Now inc and Abraham,

      It is worth noting that the aging regime’s pace has picked up momentum from its usual turtle paced speed that it proudly advertises. Remember, in one of his recent speeches, he did say they took their time because they wanted to receive PM Abiy in the way that Eritrean public did with great fanfare (sensory overload maybe the reason if there is a lapse of the context in my recollection here). Hopefully, it is the case of human beings being creature of habit and that old habit tend to die hard and the man might think he is moving too fast when those of us on the justice camp think it too little too late, but patience might just be that virtue we all need here. A little dream of goodwill is what I am pinning my hope, but it is better than nothing.

      At any rate, it is my ardent hope that the man might be on the mission of “trying to mend his terrible legacy” as Now inc stipulated. All I can say is from your mouth to the gates of heaven. He may not recover it all, but he still has the political power to make amends, but whether he has the will to do it remains to be seen. Of course, history will be the final arbiter in how he will be remembered years hence.

      BN

      • Haile S.

        Selam Beyan,
        Good to see you around and agree with you on what you said. On a lighter note, now that President Mohamed Farmajo is visiting Asmara, I hope IA takes him to riga Somal (ሪጋ ሶማል) to eat በለስ (prickly pear) instead of going to ድርፎ as he did with Abiy. Can the aKriya residents be kind enough to let him in their fiefdom?

        • saay7

          Haile S:

          In completely unrelated news, today Isaias Afwerki released some of the kids who were arrested when they showed civil disobedience (shouted “Allahu Akber”) during the funeral procession of Haji Mussa in March.

          saay

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sal,
            That is great news for the kids and their families. Our ሓያል has shown his might, the prison. It is the only prescription he knows. I hope after inviting every PM and President willing to come visit his treasure that he left crumbling like an old house left unattended for 40 years, he will get bored and release Eritrea from prison as well.
            Again a happy day for those kids. I hope they will have a smile at their face.

          • saay7

            Haile S:

            If you are going to use terminologies from our childhood cinema days, Isaias is neither ሓያል nor ዓንተር but the coward who shoots the good guys in the back: the ኣሳሲኖ Don’t you think so? But congratulations to all of us Eritreans that our all-powerful prince of darkness was in a good mood and decided to release 20-something year olds from prison.

            My plans for him? He is floating, and feeling high, and traveling the world to get his reward for making peace and then he gets Pinocheted. Now that would be justice.

            saay

          • Haile S.

            Hi Sal,
            You read me well, ዓንተር was what I was looking for. You know the bully in the neighbourhood who tries to knock everyone. Some of us who didn’t like fighting use to say ያ ግደፈና፥ ያ ዓንተር ኢኻ፥ ያ ኣይትዳፋእ… fortunately for me I had a fighter elder sister who knocks everyone, including me for not fighting:-) 🙂 .

  • ‘Gheteb

    Somali-Eritrean Relation: ‘A Mending’

    Greetings All !!

    AP and other sources are reporting that H.E. Mohammed Abdullahi Mohammed, president of the republic of Somalia, will pay a three-day visit to Eritrea on the invitation of PIA.

    This is a diplomatic coup for Eritrea as countries in the Horn region are leaving the anti-Eritrean camp that was led by the detestable Weyanes. It started with IGAD and now Somalia; Djibouti and Sudan will be next in mending fences with Eritrea,

    The mending of relations between Somalia and Eritrea will benefit both countries. First, it will restore a much delayed relations between the two sisterly countries and therefore enhance the people to people interactions. Second, it will iron out differences between the governments such that they will co-operate in international forums instead of throwing hurdles onto each others paths.

    With Djibouti and Sudan to hopefully follow suit in mending their relation with Eritrea, it will be the first time that Eritrea will be surrounded by friendly governments. This means the loathsome Weyanes and their Eritrean appendages would be not only checkmated, but utterly in extremis awaiting their impending political quietus.

    No wonder, then, I can see through my mental eyes that Elsa Chirum hurriedly writing a letter to the Somalian government why they are re-establishing a relation with “DIA” who is still supporting the Al Shabab terrorist group. Not to be outdone, the folks of Asmarino are making frantic calls to Mogadishu by enlisting the help of members of Arbi Harnet ( Liberty Friday).

    Meanwhile, Selam Kidane, Meron Estifanos et al are tweeting that in order to counter the re-establishment of relation between Somalia and Eritrea, the Eritrean opposition group should establish relations with Somali land and Punt land.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Gheteb,

      You are trotting and gasping to the extent of cutting yourself off to cover crimes that will never be covered even by old age. Sometimes truth may be abducted by terrorists, but will remain to exist as a truth. The regime crimes towards Eritreans and their neighbors will never be evaporated; it will hunt them wherever they go, take protection or polish themselves with peace. Whatever make up they utilize they will remain culprits in escaping mood. They consider any bang is directed towards them; it is a typical nature of any criminal.

      Some naive people may think Isaias will make changes in Eritrea, but making changes to Isaias means putting himself in fetters. I think it is impossible to present himself to the people of Eritrea and face justice, unless a miracle take place. If Isaias was a clean person from any crime against humanity, he would have succumbed to the aspiration of the Eritrean people a long time ago.

      Today, the well-know human being abusers are in a celebration by the new paint they have decorated themselves by. The hysteria of this new findings made them forget it will worn out with time, and at the end of the day they will find themselves in the same square, notorious criminals (shifta) with international credentials.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Hameed, yeah, the all known criminal Eritrean despot Isayas Afwerqi can never ever be a partner or an advocate of peace, justice and reconcilliation. That is simply not in his genes. Now that he has entered his twilight years, his last wish is to take down Eritrea with him to the abyss. It is really sad that someone in Ethiopia is singing to the tune of this culprit, for cheap political gains, and in the process sending his country to uncharted territory.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Abraham H, Beyan et al,

          I have just been gleaning through the entries above. One the points raised is the despot and legacy. I have never read anywhere or heard absolutist rulers whose eras pass indelibly smeared with crimes and offenses changing their natures from ruthlessness to sudden magnanimity and benevolence for the sake of bequeathing benignly memorable legacies. All they do as they get older and watch the waning of their fortunes and ability to survey and control, the to resort to trying hazardous and incoherent moves in an effort to confuse their tormented peoples to forget their terrible crimes. I do not think Eritrea’s tormentor would prove an exception and think of doing enough to have his tarnished past be erased. The guy will simply end by natural causes or violence as his predecessors did not far from our region or beyond.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            Only “submissive” and “passive” individuals expect a ruthless dictator to Change to magnanimous and benevolent leader. Who else could be then?

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Aman H,

            Those individuals live with tormented conscience. The pray the demi-god to have mercy on them and lessen the burden of the dark reign they supported. They foresee the day when they will face the bereaved mothers and fathers. It will be damning day of judgement, won’t it?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            “Tormented conscience” is more befitting to them than mine. Well said,

          • saay7

            Ismailom:

            During the “Down Down Dictator” years, there used to be a joke that went like this: “Isaias is demonstrating in front of the UN to demand that they help him remove the Eritrean people: he deserves a better quality people to govern.”

            We are too few and we pose no challenges. So he has decided that Ethiopia and Ethiopians are a lot more interesting (nothing personal, Eritrea: he is just not that into you. The heart wants what the heart wants.) Ethiopia is a country with 27 times our population, a regional power, filled with “Issu! Issu!” chanting-people who love him and are grateful for ridding them of TPLF and bringing from the wilderness (a) the original ኣረንጓዴ ብጫ ቀይ flag (b) political exiles like Professor Berhanu Negga and ዓለም በቃኝ candidates like Andargachew; reinstating to power the permanent ruling class of Ethiopia, the Oromo and the Amhara; and finally delivering ቀይ ባህራችን in a gift box with bow. Let the good times roll!

            What do we Eritreans have to offer? Our opposition is unorganized and powerless and the government supporters offer no challenge: they don’t even ask questions: when he moves they move, when he stands still they stand still. How interesting is really a shadow? The silent majority, meanwhile, all know what he did last summer. And summer before that. And the summer before that, and it doesn’t look like they are ready to forgive him or to forget. And he knows that. So, we have been traded.

            All of this will of course create completely new realignment of people and organizations. The medemer formula works in many different ways, most of which will be predictable. Interesting times ahead!

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Dear saay,

            No aware being would gainsay that we, Eritrea’s justice seekers, are with our foreheads against cul-de-sac wondering what to do: stay there and freeze in time and space or turn around and look back at the entry of the blind alley.Our senses will tell us we can’t stay put; we have and try to find direction. It’s here that fate will call us to find out how we should craft ways for “new alignment” as you aptly wrote.

            Weakness is not an exclusive endowment to us Eritreans. Recent developments in region have shown us when people get cornered to the extreme, they realize the need to find way out. There will perhaps be need for an Eritrean Mohammed Bouzizi’s Sidi Bouzid to turn the smoldering fire into flames. Acria nearly did it before long ago.

    • iSem

      አዲአ ገዲፋ ሓትንኣ ትናፍቅ
      Hell awate
      Any sane person, any Eritrean worth his salt, any one who PROFFERD to love Eritrea would write about Prisons released in Eritrea Mending relationship with Eritrean People.
      this is scribblings from PLANT INSANITY and PLANET PUFFERT

      • Bayan Negash

        Selam iSem,

        I can never fathom the mindset of belittling of social and political activists who committed no crime against humanity. In fact, they are the only counterpoise to the state actors who are fighting the uphill battle while knowing all too well they are outgunned, outnumber, out-coffered, if you will, yet they continue to stand on the principles they believe in.

        But, in a topsy-turvy world of politics of the slash and burn, stomping on the little guy while you are doing the state-actor job is par for the course in Eritrean style of politics. Works of diplomacy is what any government worth its salt is placed to do on the people’s behalf.But, it makes it all the more incomprehensible when it’s tagged with unnecessary put downs on those who have no agency to fight back in the not so plain-field, a field that is so tilted in favor of those who have nation-state size wherewithal to crush any opponent. I fail to see the logic of trying to put a nation-state on a high pedestal when it is doing its job. Why the need for spin-doctoring instead of just sharing the news is all I am saying here. I sincerely don’t get it.

        Cheers,
        Beyan

    • MS

      Ahlan Gehteb
      This is the best recap of the whole situation. As you know “Gnbar Hayat/Semere Andom” has been decimated for good. Now, we are looking forward to talking about meaningful stuff.
      The country has finally penetrated the unjust siege. The war has ended. The wayane appendages are told to pack up and leave Ethiopia. Eritreanism has triumphed. The rest is a matter of domestic house keeping, and no one is more capable in putting their house in order than those who have endured 20 years of siege maintaining life in Eritrea under tough conditions.
      Now we know who was hurting Eritrea. It was the despicable wayane, not Ethiopia. Look within a short time, Ethiopia has called the UN to lift the unjust sanctions; the Somali president is coming to Asmara; Djibouti is another Klil of Ethiopia, so I’m sure its leaders will heed Dr. Abiy’s call; Omar Albasheer is a paranoid leader, but he will follow suit, too. Anyway, I have high regard for the people of Sudan but their leaders and regimes are too unreliable. Sudanese regimes sealed us twice when we needed them most: in 1982, during the six offensive, and this year, knowing Eritrea did not have any other land connection to the outside world.
      Here is Bereket Mengisteab singing “Kobra” for my friend Semere Andom, Emma, my wayaneiti Habtey “Hayat Adem” and the rest. Enjoy.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSWmofwKZT8

      PS: Just finished watching Tigray demo in Mekele. I don’t know what to say but Harbegna Wayanay appears to be fighting for life.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Mahmuday.

        What do you think of this great engineer ? He was respected by all..

        http://www.walta-news.com/mobile/watch.php?vid=35a747455

        KS..

        • MS

          Selam KS
          I’m sad. My condolence to Ethiopians and particularly to his family.

      • Nitricc

        Your Majesty; speaking of the Mekele demo, I read the following ..pic.. but is it for the Ethiopians or for Eritreans?

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjMdndOXsAUaXYf?format=jpg&name=small

        • MS

          Hi Nitrickay
          You know the Eritrean case was inserted there to spice it up. The demo was a show of force to the movement led by Dr. Abiy. in one of my last articles, I called upon Tigrians to accept the “change wave” and ride it; I called upon them to own it. But it appears they are still on the wayanay path. I hope they chill out and understand that Ethiopia is united behind the great Abiyachen.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam MS,

            They say a leopard cannot change its spots. Maybe. My God, when you said ….” the great Abiyachen”, I almost chocked over my coffee.

            “Abiyachen” ?. When did he become your Abiy. Please don’t blame your Amharic, you said what you said with the full knowledge of its meaning. Did you get the memo from PIA. It must be.

            What you just wrote to Nitricc, I could pen it myself with minimum edit. I am all for the success of my PMAA.

            I am mourning the death of Eng. Semegnew Bekele. Together with the recent killing of the Cement Factory manager, it is an indication of ominous times.
            Another sign of the times, you and your likes are excited, I see Arab hands all over the place, the U.S is providing “expert” advice and I don’t hear much about China, the one country that did so much to help Ethiopia off its knees. That is the source of my general apprehension. Somebody, like you, removes its spots and join us in saying “Abiyachen” I worry.

            Mr. K.H

          • MS

            Selam KH
            I seldom reply to you and that’s because your rantings are not refreshing. Time has changed my friend, get over with your sick attitude.
            You have been for the evil regime and its disastrous politics that has just been cordoned off in Meqele. It will take some time for you guys to know that the politics of the region has changed for good.
            Arab…Arab…Muslim…Muslim…what a sick mentality!!?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Kim,
            Your comment about the leopard reminded me of a Western, civil war era movie I watched a long time ago.

            A few Confederate soldiers in grey uniforms were stranded and hiding on a hill behind a rock. They were looking over to the distance hoping help will come on the road. Then they saw a platoon of mounted Confederate troop on the road, in grey uniforms. Excited they come out of their hiding and run to meet the approaching troops. The commander pulled the reign of his horse and the platoon stopped. But the commander didn’t seem happy to see the Confederate soldiers who walked towards him. Then the commander slowly dusted off his shirt with his fingers. Lo and behold, under his grey uniform appeared the blue color of the Union troops. The unlucky soldiers were devastated for having walked into a Union platoon when they thought they have found Confederate soldiers.

            So, the leopard might not change its color, but if it was covered in dust, a little dusting off shows the real color underneath. And if it was painted, a spray of water will wash off the paint. I can only say good luck with your new allies–they are fun to have 🙂

            I also feel sorry for Eng Semegnew, he was a symbol of GERD and an inspiration to many displaying a character that shows one could be so humble and yet be in charge of one of the biggest engineering project in the history of the region. May he rest in peace.

            As for the culprits of his assassination, there are so many accusations flying around. I just wish Ethiopia finds peace before risking the progress it achieved so far. I also wish we Eritreans achieve basic justice — common sense has betrayed us long ago.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Saleh Johar,

            I have seen that movie too. However, when faced with it in real life, it is still disturbing to see.
            One of the reasons it is disturbing is due to the fact that it is a question of time and circumstance before they change again.

            Mr. K.H

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Kim,
            You are wrong. It’s not even Time. This people have the ability to turn the clock backwards. What year is it now, 2002?

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Salam MS,

        A nation is not managed by reducing it to the level of individuals. The way you see a nation is very primitive. A country in not run by HOH, Hayat Adem is decimated; HOH, Semere Andom is defeated; HOH, we triumph over the opposition and so on, the list of the HOHs is very long.

        Sir, you have lost credibility in this forum, if you forgot, are requested to revise your history in this platform. Your HOHs and your hysterical jumping will never retrieve your credibility. You are done.

        • MS

          Hala Abu-Hmeid the wayanay testay
          Take it easy my friend, take care of your own credibility matter, if any at all.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi MS,

            You consider everything you perform others will do the same. This is a primitive mindset thinking.

            Please, revise your history in awate forum.

        • Blink

          Dear Hamid
          In this forum, I mean how do you come up with that ? Who is credible enough to make such argument ?

          I mean , are you trying to say hayat is credible enough or who ? Who are these you think can give and take crediblity ?

          You count someone who is asking people to burn their body just like the Tunisia guy in the streets of Asmara in order to derail the peace process between Eritrea and Ethiopia or you count people like hayat who called for surgical attack by weyane inside Asmara or the once who are pushing for total sheria life in Eritrea , just choose

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Blink,

            I am not the one who attempts to set fire on his neighbors. I consider Ethiopians as my neighbors; therefore, I respect their choices and wish them prosperity and progress. By the way, there is something that draws attention: You and above all your boss love to discuss issues about Ethiopian; I guess, it is your priority to do that. And this has only one interpretation, you are Ethiopians, you are Weyanes. I wonder why you like to hide behind an Eritrean name? Are you ashamed from your identity? I am sure, if we make statistical studies on your comments in Awate forum, we will find 99% of them about Ethiopia. The same goes with all your likes.

          • Blink

            Dear hameed
            You see , you have been accusing MS of losing his credibility in this forum yet when asked you who are these giving and taking credibility in this forum you run like a thief looking for every corner . Hold your ground and face the questions I posed to you or just say sorry to MS .

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Blink,

            Thieves are those who hide behind Eritreanism. Man, have a courage and don’t feel ashamed of your true identity. Don’t be afraid, I will not call you Weyane, because I don’t care whatever identity you have.

            Enough is enough don’t trade with Eritrea and her people. I think your boss already declared it openly to the entire world that he is an Ethiopian. He has freed himself from his identity crisis. It is also healthy for you to do the same. If you don’t like to be called Weyane chose any other group and add yourself to them and feel happy.

          • Blink

            Dear Hameed
            Come on , try new one because this is just childish. Instead of facing your claim you wanted to run your mouth at me hoping to forget about the main issue we both argued , remember it was about credibility you brought and yet you wanted to run from that . Be a man , hold your ground and bring the people who can give credibility and not

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Blink,

            Credibility is first and foremost to do your own business, this of course if you are an Eritrean. If you are an Ethiopian to discuss Ethiopian problems is your right and you are credible on this, but what I am telling you repeatedly is please don’t hide behind Eritreanism, be proud of your Ethiopian identity. I advise you not to waste your time defending that “Maasrai gashim”.

          • Blink

            Dear Hameed
            You still don’t know why we both are chatting and that explains about you who wanted to run his mouth wildly because you don’t have any reason to state the truth. Anything you want to say from now , my reply is “ whatever makes you happy “.

      • iSem

        Hi MS: Welcome back from the visit from Adi Halo, I can tell u visited from your tone of “gnaber Hayat/Semere Ando, has been decimated,” a Gnbar that never existed, like the opposition that never existed, like MS the justice seeker that never existed, Gnbar Hayat/Semere is in your head. But history is so recent that Gnbar MS and Tsehaye Abay did exist, now supplanted with Abiye/Abiye Gnbar, Abiye leading Abiye with the blessing from Adi- Halo.
        I am on record saying that the fact that there will not be war is good because Eritreans will not die in a war between Ethiopia and Eritrea, but IA will kill them, or will make them die in Somalia or Yemen or Sudan or in Sawa who knows. So some class, truth please, no Gnabr Hayat and Semere, that is Nitricc speaking, the Nitricc in you, that is, that one that has not learned from history because he read it but ignored it.
        Now, Gheteb, has never written anything that will make his generation proud and MS, wedi merit is praising him, “yom alqyamm”. Since you think I am clueless about EPLF and am only gung ho about TPLF. in the late 1988, I read ” Mekete”, a book that won the first prize by S. Drar. In it, there are two close friends and then they were caught in the EPLF and ELF feud and the good guy (the good guy is always EPLF in your literature that made you Nitircc) says, we love each other as friends, but we have our own principles. Gheteb can correct as to verbatim because I am sure having the book under his pillow to read it every night before bed, because the author also says that ” the people of kebesa did not know about EPLF except that they have a strong and brilliant and angelic, God send leader called Isaias Artwork”. So question, but before u answer it for a moment go back to memory lane and for a few second remember urn days in Sahel and ur dreams and then go to the bed rooms of each of urn 4 boys and watch them as they sleep and look them in their closed eyes and then answer my question”
        This piece that you are so gung ho about that Gheteb is so hard on to the extent that he is committing crimes, the peace deal that IA is doing on his own, the peace deal that does not mention Eritrean people by name and that delegates Abiye as a leader, a peace deal that says we have been separated for 25 years and a peace deal that says we have not lost any thing in the last 20 years Waiting ur answer Ambassador Mahmud Saleh

        • MS

          Hey Ya Abu-Noah (NooH)
          What’s up. I can tell you this: If Hayat Adem had listened to Nitricc, the only person whose neurons do regenerate, I think she would have saved her Gnbar. She did not. Now, you guys are in disarray. Time to regroup and come up with a new strategy. Eritrea is now safe from the assortment of vultures who had been nurtured and manipulated by the evil Wayane, and the rest is a matter of time. It will be done safely and smoothly, according to assurances I have obtained from Adi-Halo.
          Time to retrace Nitirickay’s correspondence with you.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Sem,

          “But history is so recent that ‘Gnbar MS and Tsehaye Abay did exist’, now supplanted with Abiye/Abiye Gnbar, Abiye leading Abiye with the blessing from Adi- Halo.” Spot on. You see Sem, when 6,000 TPLFites were positioned in the eastern region of Eritrea, during their alliance to attack ELF, the leadership of EPLF have assigned one cadre from them as a Laison between the “TPLF army and the Eritrean gebar” in each brigade. MS was one of them. The cadres was acting as buffer between TPLF and the Eritrean gebars, in order the public not to know the participation of TPLF by their accent. Am I right MS? it is well documented.

    • saay7

      Haha Gheteb Nacheg:

      How does it feel to live in a world where when a person is disliked by Isaias he is called names, and when he is liked, he is called His Excellency? Man, you poor Isaiasists don’t even know you own adjectives: they are hand me downs from Isaias. Used adjectives. I have already set my timer to the time you will refer to Weyane by its full name and to its official by their full title. Haven’t decided yet if it is days or weeks.

      Now back to reality:

      1. The Somali President (elected btw) is coming to Eritrea at the invitation of the Eritrean Prez (unelected);
      2. The Somali President is a product of the system that the Eritrean prez spent a lot of Eritrea’s capital and reputation OPPOSING. Remember, he is the final product of ARS-Djibouti; whereas the horse Isaias backed ARS-Asmara became Hizbul Islam which surrendered to Al Shabab which is surrendering to Somalia’s elected government
      3. Elsa Chyrum Open Letter to PM Abiye was not “don’t make peace” but don’t let this peace with Eritrea give free reign to Isaias dogs of war because they will go on an assassination campaign of Eritrean immigrants in refugee camps and opposition. Who would oppose that.
      4. Selam Kidane’s Arbi Harnet punctured PFDJs baloon of lies and said no they haven’t freed hundreds of prisoners; they freed a few Pentecostals after they posted bail and promised not to pray in make shift prayer houses. Those who wouldn’t agree are still in jail. For one thing, it gave us a break from FishMilks efforts to sell “Eritrean Press” as government mouthpiece.
      5. Assenna is telling people about the demo in Geneva. Demonstration is what free people do to express an opinion. There will be Eritreans waving the actual map of Eritrea (without Ethiopia, although we are “one people”) and showing pictures of the victims of the regime you support. Some of them are people disappeared in 91.
      6. Kbrom will (I hope) continue to give us news and info so you can work mightily to disprove it and when you can’t to say things like “hmmm, if PM Abiye will be in the USA on Thursday how can he be in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday..” 😂😂
      7. On Mesfin Hagos: I don’t think anyone has ever accused him of stretching the truth. In fact he goes way out of his way to tell it, even if it’s not politically advantageous to his cause. Did you catch his interview with Erena? He said he has always spoken out about this with those who pretended they never heard it and he is speaking out now because he heard IA delegating national sovereign issues to a foreigner. I think he should continue to speak out about it. Someone has to.

      Finally, I love how an organization that is essentially a shell of one man (PFDJ) still mocks and riculed an organization that meets and holds elections regularly and takes criticism from its constituency regularly (TPLF.). Ah, the pride without cause: I think you call it “Eritreanism” which is the exact opposite of what it used to mean.

      Guys, really, your way has been tried for 27 years which was a big disastrous loss for Eritrea. Step aside and let others—anybody, pick 10 random people from each zoba—try to govern us. There is no way they can be worse than your heroes. I mean, how could they, by any objective measure?

      saay

      • Ismail AA

        Hayak Allah saay,

        I read in one of SJ’s posts that his skin as tough as that of an elephant. I dare say yours is three times as tough. You think the Isayas surrogates don’t know what you tirelessly try to remind. They know everything even better than many of us. But the sad fact is they finitely depleted their minds and souls of any kind of fertility on which the ideas you insistently tell them could be sown and germinate. They remain who they are as long as Isayas breaths.

        • saay7

          Hala Ismail:

          It was not about demarcation. If it was, 7 weeks after Ethiopia unconditionally accepted the Algiers Agreement, there would be some movement there. And PM Abiy said yesterday, they haven’t even began talking about it. They have been too busy dialoguing peace to worry about demarcation which is exactly a deal we could have had 14 years ago.

          It was not about Eritrea. If it was, people would raise holy hell when their president said that Ethiopians and Eritreans are one people and one country, an argument that Eritreans spent 50 years and gave up untold sacrifices winning.

          It’s not about sovereignty. If it was, people would raise holy hell when their president who usurped power, usurped it further by giving it to a non-Eritrean (Abiy) to run our affairs.

          It’s not about Eritrean people. If it was, none of the political prisoners have been freed—some in jail since Eritrea’s independence—and people would be screaming bloody hell for their release now that all the excuses used for their arrest are depleted.

          It is all about hatred for TPLF. They had to be “defeated” (by which they mean lose in a system they designed so they can leave Addis and focus their efforts in Mekele.)

          And for that most pyrrhic of “victories”, Eritrean had to be sanctioned, had to exile half a million people to the half million already exiled, make zero progress in building political institutions.

          And now, they are hoping (not even demanding but hoping) that the same Master Engineer of the Disaster, will reform himself, as long as we don’t pressure him. Like the monster Dr Frankenstein created will reform himself, no longer a fallen angel but an Adam.

          saay

          • Wedi Erey2

            Selam Saleh,

            Can you get off your high horse for a second? You have been wrong about so many things for so long. And it’s time you admit it. No more rhetorical gymnastics. Just once say “I was way off on that one”.

            Many Eritreans (true nationalists whose only interest in politics is driven by their love of country) support PFDJ and President Isaias strongly because of their history of success:
            1) in the independence “struggle” creating a disciplined and capable organization that impressed not only Eritreans but observers around the world
            2) many development goals (Who cares if infant mortality is down dramatically down and over 90% of kids get their vaccinations?… People who love their country) and
            3) in the TPLF led Ethiopian governments efforts to create chaos in Eritrea in cahoots with some friends in US and elsewhere (yes, that would be Susan Rice et al).

            On #3, the judgement of PIA and many Eritrean supporters seems to have proven right (for now at least). The “opposition” and many outside observers didn’t see the events of the past few weeks coming.

            I say “opposition”, because there are truly non-existent. They are just talking clubs and have further undermined their standing by cooperating with forces that were looking to turn Eritrea into Somalia (TPLF led Ethiopian government). Even if some aspects for their programs are interesting/attractive the chances that they would have the capability to implement them are close to zero. So for many Eritreans, the realistic choice was do you support PFDJ or a bunch of clowns who have accomplished very little or nothing and seem to be serving sinister outsiders. It’s not a tough choice.

          • saay7

            Selamat Wedi Erey2:

            Welcome to awate.

            Actually, I kinda like my horse and I won’t get off. Do be kind and tell me where I have been wrong because we tend to remember only the things that reenforce our views that we are right. I think as far as I can remember, I have been saying the UN will treat our cries about “final and binding” the same way it treats the Palestinians cries about Resolution 242. And I had been saying that in the end the EEBC ruling will be implemented in accordance with the Five Point Plan that Ethiopia presented in 2004. Gobye also accepts the same deal after he has subjected the country to incalculable loss and suffering and that is what is happening now: dialogue first, demarcation later. And just so you will have the pleasure of telling me I am wrong, let me make you another forecast: there will be land swaps to accomodate Eriteans and Ethiopians and the final border will deviate slightly from the virtual demarcation.

            On my allegation that Isaias is compromising Eritrean sovereignty and its legal and moral arguments for waging the armed struggle, I have given my reasons. If you like, I have made it easy for you to digest by linking it to his videotape in my little blog (EritreaDigest.com.) Meanwhile, you (and I am assuming you are an Isaias supporter) have claimed that Petros Solomon, Mahmoud Ahmed Sherifo, Haile Woldense, Ogbe Abraha, Hamid Himid, Saleh Idris Kekya, Estifanos Seyoum, Berhane Ghebrezgabiher, Astier Fesehazion, Germano Nati, Beraki Gebreselassie, Abdella Jaber, Mohammed Ali Omaro, Mohammed Omer Akito, Taha Mohammed Nur, Omer Tewil, Mustapha Nurhussein, Bitweded Abraha—all of these giants, many of whom contributed as much and more to the Eritrean cause, are traitors.

            And, unlike my presentation, you have presented no case, no evidence against them. None.

            So, yes buddy, mathematically, I find that your Isaias is a betrayer to Eritrea to be signicantly more probable and evidentially more supported (his betrayal of the 1987 congress alone is enough to warrant as betrayal) than all these Eritrean luminaries that he is letting waste away in prison, or die in prison, as you guys gets your eyes diverted and clap “weyane! game over!”

            Thanks for trying though.

            saay

      • Wedi Erey2

        Selam Saleh (again).

        1. Who cares? Eritrea is a small country anyway.
        2. Lol! Somalia had elections but is so far behind Eritrea in developing a modern state. Just ask any Somali.
        3. Elsa Chyrum. A nobody who made a career out of insulting the current Eritrean government. Who pays her (men yesbHa)? That’s an important question.
        4. Selam Kidane. Never been to Eritrea? Still an expert on Eritrea. Left ETHIOPIA (not Eritrea) at age 16 and was just a refugee worker until this headline grabbing opportunity came up. See #3 as well.
        5. It’s good to demonstrate. And clear headed Eritreans always know what’s up and don’t get fooled by these demonstrations. Come take a selfie at the demo for the asylum application documenting you are a bona fide opposition member kids.
        6. ?
        7. Mesfin Hagos? Give it up Sal. To accuse PIA of being “anti-Eritrean” is like saying Trump is gay. You can come up with a lot of other bad things but not that. There is a 50 year record. You are loosing credibility every time you bring this one up.

        WediErey

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei ‘Gheteb.
      Woyane’s hate walls among Easter Africa Nations and ethnic groups is collapsing like domino walls. . Tplf is calling for demonstration to tell its people with us or against us because the truth isolated it and exposed it to all of us. When the somali president comes to Asmara there will be no diplomatic speech for the sake of politeness about tplf in hope of not to hurt the feelings of Tigrians. NO. He will tell the facts and the numbers about the gruesome tplf invaders as they are on the grounds what tplf has done against Somalians just to earn dollars from USA. I hope no group of our peoples never expose to poverty to the extent where a political party brings wealth in such a horrible way regardless what your neighbors will exposed through your action to earn income.

  • Kbrom

    Hi all,

    ሰብ ንኸብዱ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን ዝነብር

    ነብስሄር ገዲም ስነጥበባዊ ኣልኣሚን ዓብዱለጢፍ (መንግስተ ሰማያት የዋርሶ) ኣብ ዘመነ ሙዚቃዊ ህይወቱ ብዙሓት ደርፍታት ደሪፉ ኢዩ። ሽሕ’ኳ ንሱ ሓመድ ኣዳም እንተለበሰ ሓንቲ ካብተን ኣብ ትሕቲ መሬት ዘይትቕበር፤ መንፈስ ሰባት እትጉርጉር ደርፉ ‘ሰብ ንኸብዱ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን ዝነብር’ እትብል ኢያ። እዛ ደርፊ ንብዙሓት ኤርትራውያን እትምልከት፡ ንግሆ ንግሆ ኣብ ኣእዛን ሰባት ናይ ሕልና ጻውዒት እትድውል ደርፊ ኢያ። ገለ ካብቶም ብዙሓት ኤርትራውያን እዞም ቀጺልና እንዝትየሎም ሰባት ኮይኖም መብዛሕተኦም ኣብ ወጻኢ ዝነብሩ ኢዮም።

    እቶም ሰባት ብወገን ቀጽሪ ተቓውሞ እቶም ‘ደገፍቲ’ ተባሂሎም ኢዮም ዝጽውዑ፥ ደገፍቲ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ወይ ህግደፍ ንምባል ኢዩ። እቶም ‘ደገፍቲ’ ግን ናቶም ዓለም ኣለዎም፤ ዝመሳሰሉሉ፤ ዝቆጻጸዩሉ፤ ዝሕብኡሉ፤ ዝዋስኡሉ፤ ሓደን ሰለስተን ዝኾኑሉ ተምሳሌታት።

    እዞም ሰባት ፌስቲቫል መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኪኸውን ከሎ እቶም ሰብኡት ፋረን ዲኖን ይለብሱ፤እተን ደቀንስትዮ ድማ ሻሽ ዝመስል ኩታን ዙርያን ይኽደና፤ ንዓርቢ ዝኽፈት ፌስቲቫል ሓድሽ ቁኖ ኪኾነለን፤ ሓሙስ ምሸት ናተንን ዝተዓደገን ጾግሪ ኣዋሲበን ግልብጭን ኣልባሶን ኪስረሓ የምስያ። ደሓር ‘ላዕለዎት ሓለፍቲ መንግስትን ግንባርን’ ፌስቲቫል ኪኸፍቱ ከለዉ፤ መን ዝያዳ ደበለ፤ መን ግርም ተቖጸየት፤ መን ጥቓ ‘ላዕለዎት ሓለፍቲ መንግስቲን ግንባርን’ ንድርብ ኣብረኸት ይወዳደሩን ይወዳደራን።ምኽንያቱ ናይ ሎሚ ሃገራውነት ብሳዕስዒትን ምስሉይነትን ኢዩ ዝዕቐን ዘሎ። ኤምባሲታት ድማ ኣቶ እገለ፤ ወይዘሮ እገሊት ኣብ ፌስቲቫላት ብንጥፈት ዝዋስኡ፡ ከበሮ ዲም ምስበለት ካብ ኩዳ ዘይወጹ ሃገራውያን ስለዝኾኑ ዘድሊ ምትሕብባር ክግበረሎም ንሓትት ዝብል መሰነይታ ናብ ዓዲ ዝሰዱ ድማ ኣብዚ ሳዕስዒትን ደበላን ተሞርኪሶም ኢዮም።

    እዞም ‘ሃገራውያን’ ኣብቲ ‘ህልዉ ኩነታት ሃገርናን ዓለምናን’ ዝዝቲ ሰሚናር ካብቶም ቀዳሞት ሓተቲ ኮይኖም ይስርዑ እሞ ‘እሕሕ’ ኢሎም ጎሮሮኦም ድሕሪ ምስሓል ‘መቸም ኣርሒቑ ዝጥምት መንግስትና ናይ ኣሜሪካ ሸርሒ በብእዋኑ ስለዘፍሸሎ፤ ኣብ ዝሓሸ እዋን ምህላውና ዘርኢ ኢዩ፡ ወትሩ ዓወት ንሓፋሽ’ ኢሎም ኩድጭ ይብሉ። ኣብ ፌስቲቫል ህግደፍ ሕቶ ማለት ነቲ ክበሃሎም ዝጸንሐ ከምዘለዎ ናይ ምድጋም መረጋገጺ ተኣማንነት ምሃብ ማለት ካብ ዝኸውን 16 ዓመት ኣቑጺሩ ኣሎ።

    እቶም ‘ሃገራውያን’ ምናልባት እንተሓተቱ ከምዚ ዝስዕብ ኢዮም ዝብሉ። ‘መንግስትና እኳ ይጠፍኦ ኣይንብልን፡ ኣሸንኳይ እዚ ካልእ ዝርኢ ዓይኒ ንስሪ ኣለዎ፤ የግዳስ ንምፍላጥ ዝኣክል፡ እዚ ናይ ቦንድ ዝገዛእናዮ መረባዓትና መዓስ ክውዳእ ትጽቢት ይግበረሉ’ ኢሎም ይሓቱ። እቲ ሰሚናር ‘ዞባዊን ኣህጉራዊን ጉዳያት ኣስፊሑ ብምትንታን ላዕለዎት ሓለፍቲ ግንባርን መንግስትን ኣዕጋቢ መልሲ ሂቦምሉ’ ተባሂሉ ምስተዛዘዘመ ድማ፡ ነቲ ዝመጽእ ጓይላ እንዳተቛጸሩ ይፋነዉ። ምኽንያቱ ናይ ፈንቅል፤ ናይ ምሕራር ናቕፋ፤ናይ ናደው፤ ናይ ግንቦት፤ ናይ ፌስቲቫል፤ ናይ ባሕቲ መስከረም በዓላት ነዞም ሰባት ናይ ፈንጠስያ ኣጋጣሚ ጥራይ ኢዩ። ኣብ ስርሒት ፈንቅል ቀጣን ስጋለት ክሰግሩ ኣብ ታንክታቶም ዝሓረሩ ሰማእታት፤ ሕድሮም እንታይ ነይሩ ዝሓስብ የለን፤ ፈንቅል ንዐኦም እቲ ሒዛቶ ትመጽእ ናይ ሳዕስዒት ኣጋጣሚ ጥራይ ኢዩ። ነዞም ሰብ ወጋሕ ትበል ለይቲ፡ እቶም ናይ ኤርትራ ለይቲ ከውግሑ ዝሓለፉ ሰማእታት ኣይንታዮምን ኢዮም።

    ሰኑይ ኣንጊሆም ነቲ ኣብ ቀዳመ ሰንበት ሸርሕታቱ ኣፍሺልናዮ፤ ዓንዳሪ ፖሊሲታቱ ይወድቕ ኣሎ ክብልዎ ዝቐነዮ መንግስቲ ኣሜሪካ፡ ኣብ መንግስታዊ ትካላቱ ከይዶም ናይ ወልፈር ገንዘቦም ክወስዱ ይስርዑ፤ ካብተን እታ ‘በዓልቲ ሸርሒ’ ኣሜሪካ ዝሃበቶም ገንዘብ ድማ 2%፤ ናይ መኸተ ኣንጻር ኣሜሪካ ይኸፍሉ።

    ንሶም እዞም ሰባት ግን ካልእ ሰብነት ኣለዎም። ናብ ቀጽሪ ተቛውሞ ጸልማት ተጎልቢቦም ይመጹ እሞ፤ ኣንታ እገለ እንታይ ዲዩ መሲሉካ፤ መንግስቲ ኣሳሪ ቀታሊ ሙኻኑ፤ ሃገር ትጸድፍ ከምዘላ ደኣ ንፈልጥ እንዲና፤ወረ ካባኹም ንላዕሊ ንፈልጥ ሰባት ኣብ ዓዲ ስለዘለዉና፡ ግዳስ ኣብኡ ዘውፈርናዮ ንብረት ስለዘሎ፤ማለትሲ እታ ናይ ቦንድ ገዛይ ገና ሰገን ይሰርሕዋ ስለዘለዉ፡ ክልተ ደቂ ሓፍተይ ድማ ዘየውጻእክዎም ስለዘለዉስ ክሳብ ዝኾነ ዝኸውን ኢልና እንደኣልና ይብሉ።

    ገለ ድማ መዓስ ነቲ ሰሚናር ኢልና ከድና፤ ደይ እቶም ደረፍቲ ማራ ኣስመራ ስለዘዘኻኽሩናስ ነታ ናይ ምሸት ሳዕስዒትን ኬፋትን ኢልና ኢና ኬድና፤ ይብሉ። እዞም ተቓወምቲ ድማ ለውጢ ደንጉኹም፡ ሱቕ ኢልኩም ነንሕድሕድኩም ክትባልዑ ትውዕሉ ይብሉ፤ ንባዕሎም ብሰንኪ ዕርበት ሕልናኦም ንነብሶም ይበልዕዋ ምህላዎም ዘንጊዖም።

    ቅንይ ኢሎም ነቶም ዝተረፉ ዘይወጹ ደቂ ሓፍቶም ንምውጻእ፤ ኣብዚ ደምበ ተቓውሞ ዘለዉ ገለ ካብዞም ዘሰጋግሩ ኣይትፈልጥን ኢሎም ክሓቱ ይጅምሩ። ኣብቲ ዝቐነየ ፌስቲቫል ‘ሳዋ ዋሕስ ሃገር ኢያ፤ መንእሰይ ንሃገሩ ከገልግል ኣለዎ’ ክብሉ ከምዘይቀነዩ፤ ነቲ ‘ናይ ካልእ ስድራ’ መንእሰይ ንስቓይን ሞትን ፈሪዶም ነቶም ‘ደቂ ዓይኒ መዓር’ ደቂ ሓፍቶም ከውጽኡ ላዕልን ታሕትን ይብሉ።

    ሓደ ሓደ እዋን ድማ ንጽባሕ መንጸፍ ንምግባርን ኣበርኪትና ንምባልን፤ ንደንበ ተቓውሞ እትጠቅም ሓዳስ ሓበሬታ ኣላ ዝሰማዕክዋ፤ ግን ስመይ በጃኹም ከይትጠቕሱ እንዳበሉ ‘ይተሓባበሩ’። ከምኡ ብምግባር ድማ ነቲ ዘይተርፍ ለውጢ ምስመጸ ክሕተቱ ሙኻኖም ዝፍለጦም ርቡሽ መንፈሶም ቅሳነት ንምሃብ ክተሓባበሩ ይህቅኑ።

    ክረምቲ ምስመጸ ከም ኣመሎም ደሃይ መረባዓቶም ንኺገብሩ እታ በዓልቲ ደሞም ሸርሐኛ ኣሜሪካ ዝሃበቶም ናይ ወልፈር ዶላራት ሒዞም ንኣስመረኦም ቡቁጽ ይብሉ። ቅድሚ ኣስመራ ምኻዶም ዘሎ ወርሓት፡ እታ ናይ ካድር ካባ ኢዮም ዝኽደኑ። ወር ሽዑስ ቃውቃው ዝበሉ ካድራት ኢዮም ዝኾኑ፡ ምኽንያቱ እታ ኤርፖርት ብሰላም ክሓልፍዋ መታን ‘ሃገራውነቶም’ ዘረጋግጽ ተግባራት ክገብሩ ኣለዎም።

    እታ ኣብ ኩሉ እትርከብ ባንዴራ ስለትንእሶም፤ ካልእ ዓባይ ባንዴራ ኣስፊዮም እንዳስዕስዑ፤ እንዳፈከሩ፤ ተወንዚፎማ ይሰኣሉ እሞ፤ ኣብ ፈይስቡክ ይብትንዎ። ናብ ኣስመራ ምስ ከዱ ሃገራውነቶም ዝዕቀን ክሳብ ክንደይ ንተቓወምቲ ጸሪፎም ብዝብል መዐቀኒ ስለዝኾነ፤ ኣብ ኣጋ ምኻዶም ነቶም ብዙሕ በጻሕቲ ፈይስቡክ ዘለዎም ደምበ ተቓውሞ፤ ኣንታ ወያነ፤ ኣንታ ሲኣይአ ክብልዎም ይውዕሉ። መእተዊ ቤት ጽሕፈት ህግደፍ ዝኾኖም ‘ሓበሬታ’ ተረኺቦም ድማ ሃሰው ይብሉ።

    ካብ ኣስመራ ምስተመለሱ ንሰብ ከከም ገጹ እንዳረኣዩ ኢዮም ጸብጻቦም ዝህቡ። መጀመርያ ናብቲ ኤምባሲ ኢዮም ዝኸዱ፤ ዓዲ ትውንጨፍ ኣላ፤ ‘ተጻብኦታት ኣላሽ ኣቢልና ኣብ ሓድሽ ናይ ምውንጫፍ መድረኽ በጺሕና ኣለና’ ይብሉ። እዞም ሰባት ወላ ነቲ ናይ ጋዜጣ ሓዳስ ኤርትራ ቃላት እውን ብናቶም ኣገላልጻ ክትክእዎ ኣይፍትኑን ኢዮም።

    ካብ ኣባላት ተቓወምቲ ውድባት ተረኺቦም ድማ፤ ዓዲ በቃ ሞይታ ኢያ፤ ድሕሪ ሕጂ ናብኡ ገጸይ ኣየብልን ኢየ፤ ‘ውዑይ ማይ ዘይብሉ ሆቴል እንታይ ይበሃል’ ይብሉ፤ (መቸም ወላ ኣስመራ ምስከዱ ኩነታት ብዓይኒ እቲ መላእ ህዝቢ ዘይኮነስ ብዓይኒ እቲ ዝኣትውዎ ሆቴል፤ ዝበልዑሉ ሬስቶራንት ኢዮም ዝዕቕንዎ)። ንዐኦም እቲ ኣብ ውሽጢ ሃገር ዘሎ ሰብ ዕጭኡ ዝረትዖ ኣብ ሕሰም ክነብር ዝተፈረደ ኢዩ ዝመስሎም። ውዑይ ባኞ ስኢንናሉ ዝብልዎ ዘለዉ ዓዲ፡ ነባሪኣ ዝስተ ማይ ከምዝስእን ኣይዝክሩን ኢዮም። ኣብ ከብዲ ዓሻ ልቦና የሎን።

    ከምዚ እንዳበሉ 10 ካባ ወድዮም ዝነብሩ፤ ከብዶም ዘመዶም ብዙሓት ኢዮም። ስም በዓል ቤተን ጸዊዐን ዘይፈልጣ፤ ከም መልኣኽቲ ኣስማት ሓለፍቲ ግንባር ክጽውዓ ዝውዕላ፤ ኪቖርባሉን ክሰግዳሉን ኣብ ዝግባእ ዕድመ፡ ኩሉ መሰረታት ስነምግባር ክረግጻ ዝሓድራ፤ 300 ኤርትራውያን ኣብ ባሕሪ ጥሒሎም ኢሎመን ቅንጣብ ዘይሓዘና፤ ሞባይለይ ጠፊኣ ኢለን ዝሓዝና መሊአን ኢየን።

    እዞም ኣብ ላዕሊ ዝተጠቐሱ ሰባት ክፋል ናይ ሕብረተሰብ ኢዮም። ሕብረተሰብ ብሕያዎት፤ ምእንቲ ካልኦት ብዝሓልፉ፤ ርእሶም ኣድኒኖም ብዝኸዱ፤ ዘላቶም ተመስገን ኢሎም ብዝነብሩ ሰባት ዝቖመት ኢያ። ንሳ እታ ሕብረተሰብ ንባዕላ፤ ሱሱዓት ከብዶም ዘመዶምም፤ ምስሉያትን መንቀላወጥትን ሰባት እውን ዝሓዘት ኢያ። ሕብተረተሰብ ዝተፈላለየ ባህሪ ብዘለዎ ሰባት እንተዘይቐውም ምናልባት መቐረት ውን ኣይምሃለዎን። ስለዝኾነ፤ ከምዞም ኣብ ላዕሊ ዝተጠቐሱ ሰባት ምስ እንርኢ ንቡር ባህርያዊ መስርሕ ህላወ ሕብረተሰብ ሙዃኑ ኣሚንና፤ ርእስና እንተዘይሓመምና ይሓይሽ።

    ንሶም እንተኾኑ ካብ ሕልና ንላዕሊ ሓይኹ ዝበልዕ ቀታሊ ስለዘየሎ፡ ሕልንኦም ሓይኹ ከሳጽዮም ኢዩ። እንተ እታ መሬት ንርእሳ ኢላ ምውጋሓ ኣይተርፋን ኢዩ፤ እቲ ብርሃን ምስ ዓሰለ ድማ ኩላ ሰብ በብተግባራ ኣብ ቅድሚ ታሪኽን ግዜን ክትቀርብ ኢያ። ቅድሚኡ ግን ሕልንኦም ባዕሉ ኣሳጺዩ ክሕይኾም ኢዩ፤ ምኽንያቱ ከምቲ ጆን ካልቪን ‘ብሕማቕ ሕልና ዝተተኽትኸ መንፈስ ኣብ ናይ መሬት ገሃነም ይነብር ከምዘሎ ኢዩ’ ዝበሎ ሽሕ’ኳ ብደገኦም ሰባት ይምሰሉ፤ ውሽጦም ብናይ ሕልና መቕጻዕቲ ዝማሰኑ ኢዮም።

    ብሩኽ ዓርቢ የውዕለና!

    • Kbrom

      Dear moderator

      Can you please hold before posting it, as I will write it in a form and structure of an article.

      Thank you.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Ras Abi,

    At times you sound to enigmatic. Why would you think “jihad” could be declared against Christians in Ethiopia and Eritrea?

  • Kaddis

    Hi all,

    Very depressing to lose Engineer Semegnew.

    The killers, like the bombers at the rally, are aiming Addis to be consumed by protest and become ungovernable; as have been tried for the last 4 years. They also know who will easily be implicated knowing the hate encircling the people and the party from the north.
    The rally bombers suspects seems, based on the courts appearance reports, only reported on social media, are not from the suspected groups. At least on their profile ( shame we have reached to this level)

    In any case – the social media influencers and the residents of Addis, seems to get the trick and acting cautious.
    I will try to reach out to our mainstream media to share the experience of Londoners after the tube attack of 7//7 2005. How calmly they walked out together with their dead and injured.
    Hope to stay calm and vigilant; until this shall pass.
    Thank you all for the warm thoughts

    • Paulos

      Selam Kaddis,

      The true character of a Man is tested in deserts not in green pastures. This is the time that the true character of the young PM will be tested and it will be seen if he is going to unite the people in this incredibly trying times or if he is going to divide them even further. It looks like the scorpion has already stung the frog not even midstream much less at the end of the river.

      If Ethiopia has become the provorbial Phoenix that arose from the ashes, never heard one going back to the ashes and regrettably, the young PM is determined to do just that in a bid to destroy what the Northerners have built with in the last 27 years through blood and sweat! A nation is destroyed not by enemies at the gate but by enemies from with in.

      • Peace!

        Hi Paulosay,

        I admire your energy when you defend north on one onside and south on the other simultaneously although such polarizing politics proved to be a recipe for disaster. It is also an indication that Eritrea’s problem goes far beyond dictatorship. Your, don’t get bitter and try to see a bigger picture, advice for victims of TPLF is spot on except one may find it impossible to reconcile that with eulogizing YOHANNES. It is sad and terribly disappointing we are still in a state of confusion- not sure if we are fighting the despot as one people for one democratic and prosperous Eritrea.

        Peace!

  • Acria

    Selam Alex,
    He is also who helped EPLF remove ELF from the Eritrean political arena. Those who support EPLF should not suddenly hate TPLF. TPLF was representing the Ethiopian people when EPLF invaded parts of Ethiopia ( Tigray). They were protecting Ethiopia when the war of 1998-2000 flared up. Do you see where I am going? Politics is dirty and dangerous if not lead by civilian institutions.

  • Acria

    Selam Mitiku,

    You are using very strong words. They are definitely political opportunists. This is true of almost all ruling parties made up of waring factions. Nevertheless, you can’t deny that Ethiopia did show admirable economic growth during Meles’ era than anytime before.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Acria.
      I blame no one. I am just explaining facts. Revenge on the prior administration doenst give tplf or tigray the right what they have done against the rest of Ethiopians. Our struggle has been not to replace Amhara elites with 6 millions tigrians. Even if we want to we cant afford it. Do you think tplf suddenly has mercy because they have heart. The non tigre could to the point no more giving to woyane and their corrupt puppets.

  • Acria

    Selam Fanti,
    Why do we always think it is TPLF/ Weyane? It could as well be suicide. The gun was found in the passenger’s side. The wound was behind his right ear ( mastoid process) area. That is a possible suicide case, especially if he is right-handed.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Acria,

      The anti-TPLF elements will use any opportunity to discredit, blame, and blackmail TPLF, but we can only hope that the truth will come out sooner than later.

      Three possibilities we can rule out are:

      1) Suicide: it seems that the killers attempted to make it look as such but there are eye witnesses who saw a couple of individuals who run away immediately after the shot and jumped into a car.

      It is highly unlikely that he would go literally to the door of the meeting place or his office to commit suicide. There was no indication prior to his passing that he was suicidal.

      2) Egypt. The relationship is in good terms and Egypt knows very well that killing one manager would not stop the project except unnecessarily making an enemy of the Ethiopian people. Unless one emotionally driven individual felt that it is in Egypt’s interest to kill the manager and made personal decision to do so, I don’t know of an incident where Egyptian government ever stooped to something this low.

      3) TPLF. There is absolutely nothing TPLF can gain by his death. He was well respected and loved throughout Ethiopia, and many Tigrayans see him as an extension of Meles. I never heard of any TPLF official ever having any disagreement with him about anything.

      Some people are speculating that he was on his way to present a report regarding the GERD and perhaps some corrupt officials may have had reason to worry. Although we cannot rule that out 100%, it is hard to believe that there is a secret only known to him regarding corrupt officials. That speculation assumes that the GERD project is a one man show and also he is the finance manager.

      I seriously worry that there may be some group within the administration who are hell bent to discredit PM Abiy’s leadership. Unless the explanation is something as simple as romance involving jealousy and competition or some other social issue we are not considering, his murder makes absolutely no sense.

      Whoever the killers are, they are pure evil and Ethiopians must demand to know who they are.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Fanti Ghana. You say absolutely nothing for the TPLF to gain by his death? Common! If anyone had a blackbook on those whose are now (more than 40 TPLF members) facing court charges in regards to the embezzlement of hundreds of millions of dollars, it would be the engineer in charge of the project!

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam FishMilk,

          Casting suspicion on TPLF officials is not enough. Whoever is found to be corrupt must be brought to court and the findings made public. Up to this point it has all been propaganda.

          I am not sure if you know enough about budget allocation process in Ethiopia, but major projects like that of GERD involve too many civilians, government officials, and many paper trails for any big secret to exist much less to be covered by murdering one person.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Fanti Ghana. Thanks for your comments and I am sure you know better than I regarding budgetary processes in Ethiopia for major projects. My concerns however were more related to project procurement and contracting which is far more prone to abuse/corruption AND concealment.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Fanti,

            It is time consuming trying to refute every conspiracy theory against the TPLF. The noise becomes worse when it is done full-time by hypocrite non-Ethiopians who should be paying attention to serious issues in their own country, namely Eritrea.

          • Nitricc

            Hi kaeliab; if you weren’t a Dush-bag, you could have known every Eritrean problem emanated and it will for future from Ethiopia. At the same time there is healthy Eritrea without healthy Ethiopia but since your hero is the dead midget, you are nothing but a dush.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitricc,

            You are an airhead full of empty bluster.

            I have seen what you write on this forum year after year and you have shown no progress whatsoever in your language skills. I advise you to invest your time in a night school rather than here.

  • Acria

    Selam @george,

    When did EPLF ( Sha’ebia) and TPLF (Weyane) become staunch enemies? It is after the 1998-2000 war? I think the people of Eritrea and the people of Tigray will take care of these unhinged entities respectfully. This is the time of ‘Medemer’ and it should include everybody without calling names!

  • Acria

    Selam Hope,
    The operative phrase, as you have stated above, is ‘ a proper and a well managed National [Military] Service’ . We can’t afford to be in constant conflict with anybody with our limited resources and population. We have to produce citizens who can compete with the rest of the world not through military might, but with strong intellectual aptitude. Thus, I am in favor of voluntary NMS; and, I don’t believe it to be sacred enough not to be tampered with. Let’s not forget that choice is an absolute power. It is high time that we give Eritreans that power.

  • Aligaz G

    Dear @george,

    too many creepy-crawlies in this closet major heebie-jeebies

  • Simon Kaleab

    Mitiku,

    How do you know that Meles had “sever” [should be severe] “inferior” [should be inferiority] complex?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei
      thanks for the correction. I mean inferiority complex.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Moderators. Thanks. I will remember to include the name.

    • Paulos

      Simon,

      English is not first language of most people here including moi. And we should applaud us for trying our best to practice more without being pedantic about it where it can make one self-conscious to the extent of one getting discouraged from commenting.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Paulos,

        I just want to highlight the fact that it is Mitiku who limps on crutches [figuratively] trying to label Meles of having an inferiority complex.

        • Nitricc

          HI Simon: actually it is you who is suffering from inferior complexity. People with inferior complexity wouldn’t recognize one because they live with it. So, you and your dead midget suffer from inferior complexity and has no cure.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Nitricc,

            You should be investing your time in night school rather than here.

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Nitricc,

            The fastest way to uncover tplf dead enders in this forum is to attack their cowardly midget thief in chief. These losers are so brainwashed they actually buy into all the pr about their addict leader. They will never believe Meles was just another cia tool soon to be completely and permanently purged from history. What Rice giveth the Donald taketh away. A total waste of time.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Aligaz,

            You have been braying loud all day, like a typical coward.

            Now, tell us, whose “dead ender” are you?

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Simon,

            Sensitive spot huh? Too busy to care just moved to arat kilo. How is dedebit these days?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Aligaz,

            Typical windbag and a coward.

            I know many of your type. You were aiding and abetting the criminal Derg or were hiding under the bed when your wife was snatched in front of you.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, Simon.
          Meles’ inferiority complex is a documented fact. He explained his inferiority complex in its best form with false superiority ( i could go on all his complex symptoms with a good back up fro YouTube but i dont want to get sick.) He and his good for nothing party tplf came to power with the help of Eritreans, Ethiopians and the sanction of the west against the barbaric communist mengistu regime. It did not take weeks before he started propagint his false superiority by preaching how tplf single-handedly sacrificed and made free Ethiopins and Eritreans. When his party got the opportunity (eplf will never regret enough) to lead Ethiopia, and the inferiority complex kicked so hig tplf wanted an industrialist Tigray with a city ‘better’ than Asmara overnight. , . With false superiority one couldnt build a republic with people who couldn have even enough to eat. And the rest is history how tplf looted Ethiopia and made Eritrea isolated at least from the western countries just to feel the emptiness created by this huge inferiority complex.

          Now the rebirth of Eritrea at south of Merb is on hold because looting money from the non-tigrians for the gigantic dedebit plan born out of complex has stopped suddenly.

          And false superiority brings wealth by malicious manipulation, not by heroism. That demands balls.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Mitiku,

            Is Meles inferior to a nincompoop like you?

            You called the Derg a “the barbaric communist mengistu regime”. What have you done to stand up to that criminal regime? How many cities, towns or villages did your mumbo jumbo group liberate?

            Chances are high that you served happily as an informer to your Katikala [home made alcohol] infused Derg.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mitiku,

            “ Inferiority complex” to Meles who liberated you from the brutal Mengistu, a distinction student in medicine, before he lead a formidable organization that overthrow Mengistu. My friend, you could have many other things to accuse him, but not in “inferiority complex”. የእህታችን ልጅ አንበሳ ነው: በእውቀቱ ይሁን በቆራጥነቱ:: (Sir Amde : እሱን ለማበሸቅ ብየነው)

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, Amanuel.
            I know you are a die hard supporter of tplf. But for me and million of us that some one saying that tplf and Meles liberated you is an insult. We liberated us from derg by ourselves. Our people since derg started to abuse the trust the revolutionaries invested on it til the end fought and won. What tplf has done was what derg had done ie hijacking our revolution for fulling the big hole created by the inferior complex. Already in 1991 tplf could be repulsed with its devil agenda where ever it came from but thanks for EPLF and the west.

            Two months after they took over addis this is what the dedebit health care planer said when he was asked about the deterioration of Tikur Anbesa Hospital ”It is not Dedebit problem”.. People expected him to lead the hospital. They did not know he has a bigger plan like looting Tikur Anbesa and make a better one in Tigray. You see they were not racist when they started but their inferiority complex led them to come up with their racist policy. Tigray first on Ethiopians wealth and sweat. How far could one go with such a plan? Depending on how strong one is or how much they could make havoc among our different ethnic groups and creating war between Eritrea and Ethiopia. The latter one aborted with amazing skill and cooperation among tplf victims including Eritreans. Now remaining the only the false superiority. We wait and see.

            Do you see we can even liberate us from tplf, your super men.?

            Dear Amanuel, tplf is not good for Ethiopians. You just open your eyes and hearts to share the non tigre Ethiopians suffering for the last 27 years. We are not planing you people hate your party. No. You just keep it for yourself. But it can not continue its horrible system in Ethiopia. NO, Amanuel, no.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mitiku,

            The truth of the matter is organizations only do win wars. Derg was defeated and it’s army was disintegrated by joint force of EPLF and TPLF. Who is the “we” for god’s sake? Could you verify it? ያንተ ነገር ይገርማል:: የለሌው ታሪክ ራስህ ትፈጥራለህ:: ኤረ ቁምነገር ተናገር እባክህ::

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Amanuel.
            In woyane’s propaganda it is only tplf won the war. We have many organizations but complex victims saw the opportunity how to loot organized. You dont have to lie to defend tplf. The most difficult task in the world is defending the corrupt racist opportunist tplf and its supporters. WE do know why you deny sharing the victories or why you propagate that only tplf won derg. False superiority is dictating you. Dont worry it is not in your gin. Occupying yourself by envy what other ethnic has made you who you are. And that greed brought you where you/tplf are today.

            You can follow what is going on in Ethiopia and the facts. Dont be blind by the ‘truth’ you created. Look at the world with out tplf glasses.

          • Blink

            Dear Mitiku
            We all know the guy will die protecting Meles . You have to understand also the guy has been sharing false stories about EPLF in his Facebook page , so don’t get surprised if he believes TPLF liberated Eritrea. Infact he was hoping TPLF to take him to Asmara and now , well it is a mess for him and others like him. People like him are being naive to underestimate the Eritreans and they have been calling the Eritrean youth to pick the gun and shoot Other Eritreans from another side . Meles and his pals history is all but gone in to dirt.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Blink.
            What tplf has done is explained by the rest of Ethiopian and all Eritreans and what they have gone through in the last 27 years and how tigray and tigrians dancing and hitting kebero with the money raining from the looting of Ethiopians and begged money from US for punishing Eritrea to kneel for US policy. It is only few weeks ago woyane radio has stopped declaring the economical success of Tigra and how money how many non tigre ethnic groups are killed.

            In a country where tplf has led the country late alone tplf and its supporters themselves made ethnic hate as their policy to loot others even the rest of non-tigre ethnic groups make havoc among themselves it is a shameful act what Tigray and its party has done in the last 27 years. The die hard tplf supporters use this card known as ”we all are tplf” when the looting is raining and when the looted ones ask for justice then the other card is raised ” tplf is not tigrians’.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear All,
    The Ethiopian PM, Dr. Abiy ahould be advised to cut his trip short and return home to comfort his mourning nation at this very difficult time.

    • Asmerom

      Dear Hayat
      I don’t think he will do that he is here to expand his base and continue to accumulate more support for his next political move. His empty slogan MEDEMER which is equivalent to “locker her up” is doing its intended purpose he cares more of his polarity not the crises in the country. He has one target that we know all and he has to deliver that target to the heaters on the silver plate
      thanks

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Asmerom,

        Your thoughts about Dr. Abij’s focus on “next political move” call for reflection though cries for details. I understand the audience in the USA would be challenging to him to say the least since the hardcore is imperial in conviction and dream regarding “etiopiawinet”.

        I listened to his first speech on unification of Orthodox Church and extravagant exultation of its role in the affairs of Ethiopia. This took my thoughts to the dream of kingship he has been upholding since 7 years of age rooted in his mother’s prophesy as 7th king (whatever that meant). He never misses an opportunity to talk about and tends to associate his ascent to his present function with that destiny. Could he be in process of sitting the stage towards fulfilment that dream as final destination.

        Many kings and emperors in Ethiopia had started from humble local beginnings and climbed through extended chaos to the throne. Think about Tewodros II, Yohannes and Yukuno Amlak in 1270. It was on after overcoming contenders that they exchanged original names for crown names for sake of legitimacy under the blessing of the church.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Ismailo,

          I love your historical feeds. After all it is a historian duty and you are bound to do it. It is a great pleasure for me when I read your inputs and your rebuttals. Keep up brother, there are many students who reads you religiously, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

      • Mez

        Hi Asmerom,

        You are very intelligent.

        Thanks

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Hayat.
      The PM never does understand the woyane advise. Killing the key figure in GRED is the way woyane gives advise to the PM to abort this important tour.

  • Berhe Y

    Thanks.

    Personally I had lost respect to the Prof., for his appeasing stand he took with regards to the human rights issue in Eritrea.

    Including the destructive role the regime has chosen to take and his silence, and worse his endorsement of the regime actions / inactions.

    His work documenting the deported Eritreans during the war is commandable but he stopped short to continue that work when it comes to Eritreans abused by their own government.

    Berhe

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. You don’t want the GERD project to be named in honor of Meles Zenawi otherwise it will be called the TERD project.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei all.
    The great leader continues with his miracle. He united the Orthodox churches. I dare not go to detail because i am not a religious person. But one thing i couldnt avoid is that the leaders of these churches were propagating hatred among Christians just like the woyane leaders until this amazing humble down to earth human being by the name Abiy Ahmed popped out. Woyane has done it because it is her gift from her gods to divide and robe. But i dont get it how these people who preach that in their world they dont do things like devlish/woyaneish does. If i were a religious person maybe i understand what has been going on in Ethiopia orthodox churches.

    In short if Abiy Ahmed was born in Jesus’ era then people could have worshiped him like Jesus. The wine and walking on the water could be added by people like me who got so exited by all these miracles he contentiously is doing. Who is the son of God now, Abiy or …

    The next work is now how two countries could have one orthodox church. Do the church need one patriarch or two. If it is one how is the election, where wpuld be the synodos office. One woyane in 2013 asked me if i am interested to join one orthodex churc for both Eritrea and Ethiopia. I told him i dont know why Ethiopians go to church. He just gave up.

    • Brhan

      Hello Mistiku,
      Please keep your domestic issue in your domestic platform. Bring in it to the Eritrean platform won’t help as we Eritreans are focusing on our issues without interfering in what is going south of the border.

      Thanks,

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Birhan.
        Oh sorry, my English is so bad i did not know this forum is focusing only your issue without interfering south of the border. Call me when this forum start discussing south of your the border.

      • Acria

        Selam Brhan,
        Have you notice what is going on lately? The South was in Asmara and the North was in Addis! It is like a bonanza.

      • Brhan

        Hello Awate,
        I am sorry for my expression. But charity starts at home, as they say. Dr. Beyan’s article reflects. Also my expression was meant that commentators s to stick to the point of the article and don’t go wild to be out of the scope of the subject of the article. My objective is that our comments to be relevant to the article thus they become meaningful to all, including to the writer who waits to see constructive comments that will help him improve when he or she wants to pitch another article in the future.

        Thanks,

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Mitiku Melesse,

      If history makes sense to you, unification of the Habesha monophysite church might be conceivable by restoring suzerainty to Alexandria as it had been in the past. As the Catholics have the pope at the St. Peter’s seat in Rome, the Monophysites in Eritrea and Ethiopia could be under the Synod in Alexandria who used be represented by resident emissary under the title of Echege. Separation from the Egyptian Coptic church took place during the reign of Emperor Hailesellasie. And, Isaya Afeworki detached the Eritrean segment.

      Here, power and national state sovereignty are at play. In the past the church and the empire state had marriage of convenience to share power and resources (land) since the so called restoration in 1270. But later on imperial power superseded that of the church. I do not know whether Dr. Abij would risk embarking on adventure, which the first casualty would be his governing coalition as prelude to wider intra/inter faith contentions which current Ethiopia may not sustain.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Ismail AA.
        The PM has no intention of meddling in any religion. He is way far from using religion to unite Eritrea.He deosnt want a united one county which include any part of Eritrea even Badme. He is far far away from your league.

        But coming back to my comment and know the history of the Ethio-Eri orthodox church and the change Dr Abiy is bringing there would be a change in relation between the two orthodox in Ethiopia and Eritrea. The kind of relation and the degree i dont know. But as i said if the change can goes as far as to have two or one patriarch, the rest is unnecessary speculation.

        But if i am asked what to do with two churches my suggestion is that we dont need the orthodox church now in 2018 to lead our countries in politics, reading and writing, education, mathematics, medicine etc. Instead all the time and the money we use for teaching orthodox we could use the resource for our poor educational system. The billions dollar the two countries use for housing the church and their employees we convert them to schools.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Mitiku Melesse,

          If read a bit closer, my comments had to do with what you wrote about uniting the two segments of the Orthodox synods of the Abyssinian Plateau. But, I couldn’t get why you had to read them as if they were on behalf of “league”. Just for the sake of clarity: who are the good souls in my “league”?

      • abdulworld

        Hello Ismael,
        I personally don’t think Religion should have any role in government.
        I find the Orthodox church in Eritrean and Ethiopia compared to European Christianity to be very backward and frozen in time..
        The Orthodox church should open a couple of universities… its role in the past was important but it relevance in future is unknown..
        I don’t think the church is that relevant nowadays.. there are no absolute monarchies or high illiteracy…

        • Kaddis

          Selam Abdul –
          I agree
          The Orthodox Church could be one of the victims of Democracy in Ethiopia. I doubt they will survive the audit, transparency etc..
          given their wealth, there shouldn’t be a single beggar ( yene Bite) on the streets in Addis or any town. Unless it starts to involve in social actions – not talk – it will be irrelevant

          • David Samson

            Selam Kaddis,

            “The Pentes are coming”

            The market for ‘religion’ in the Western hemisphere has been in steep decline since 1960s. The Pentes have found a niche market within the Afro-Caribbean societies. Africa is for the taking as it has huge resources(population).

            I do not know the market share of the The Pentes’ within the Christianity sector, but it appears to be growing rapidly.

            The market leader- ‘Orthodox’- seemed to be under attack from many angles, and I am not sure if it has the resources to withstand the onslaught.

            Where is ‘Gash Girma’ in the picture? Has he been side-lined by the BODYMASS Pm?

            The fake pastor(Rafa boy) must be a millionaire by now. During his last trip to Europe’s capitals, the admission charge for his sermon was $75 per person, with full house.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam abdulworld,

          You said: “I personally don’t think Religion should have any role in government.”

          So, do you also oppose the following:

          The constitution in Jordan states, “Islam is the religion of the State and Arabic is its official language.” “The people of Syria are
          part of the Arab nation,” Syria’s constitution declares. “The
          religion of the President of the Republic is Islam; Islamic
          jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation”. That
          means Syria may only be ruled by a Muslim. “The official
          language of the state is Arabic.”

          Egypt’s constitution declares it to be an “Arab Republic” and “part of the Muslim world”. You will not be surprised to learn that, “Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic is its official language. The principles of Islamic Sharia are the principle source of legislation.” These same statements, with minor variations, hold true for most of the Muslim countries in the region, and excluding Arabic, throughout the world.

          I did not even start to mention Iran and Saudi Arabia.

          You also said: “I find the Orthodox church in Eritrean and Ethiopia compared to European Christianity to be very backward and frozen in time.”

          I understand that the European churches are so advanced that they explicitly or tacitly allow men to marry men and women to marry women that it must have filled you with joy,

    • Blink

      Dear Mitiku
      How is that even possible to think two countries to have one patriarch ? Are you not making things more complex for the people already? The best you can wish is these with big black hat must behave not to spoil the youth future with their wild lies. Eritrea must defend its identity away from any religious connection to any country .

  • Abraham H.

    Dear Fanti, yes, the Ethiopian PM has a lot to do when it comes to toning down this kind of ‘street justice’ by those who want to score political cards on these kinds of unfortunate killings. The Ethiopian justice sytem must conduct an independent, and impartial investigation into these killings as well as the terror bombing during PM Abiy’s support rally, and make its findings public as soon as possible.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Great news being announced that GoE plans to open Eritrea to U.S. private investment!

    • Acria

      Selam FishMilk,
      Does that include Eritrean-American investors as well? Just curious.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Acria. Too early to tell but I sure hope that it does include Eritrean-American investors.Only when they actually establish an investment office in Asmara will I actually believe that the private investment ball is really rolling.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear all,
    1) It is sad both Ethiopians (Meles and Simegn) who had more to do with the GERD had to die in mid summer before seeing it complete.
    2) Ethiopians can really use this one as a mobilizing factor to speed it up and pay these two great sons of Ethiopia a deseving tribute in kind.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam ms hayat
      Fair enough ms hayat, i believe Pm 3A is a fair minded person and insider to the information and will gave for every body his due cradit as the contribution they made to gred and ethio as the whole.

    • Amde

      Selam Hayat,

      Well said.

      I really admired Meles on his GERD project, and it was cool to see a technical person like Simegn become a folk hero. I have been advocating the dam to be named after Meles Zenawi.

      Sad to see this happening.

      Amde

      • Nitricc

        Hi AMDE; that is the dumbest idea I have ever heard in my life. What is wrong with you? No wonder why your country is where it is. No dignity.

        • Amde

          Nitricc,

          There are very few things I agreed with what Meles did. The GERD happens to be the main one. I see it as primarily a political dam that will help bring peace to our region by forcing Egypt to be a co-steward of the Nile basin. The role of a paranoid and thirsty Egypt has been a very costly one – Eritrea and Somalia are prime examples.

          It should be completed.

          Amde

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayat,

      Things are heading toward your prediction: TIGRAY will be the only safe place. Could you tell us what happen to the good engineer?

      Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Peace,
        Everyone’s guess is as good as mine. But based on pure analytical guess, it has to do with what he is (political) or what he was doing (geopolitical).

      • Hope

        Selam Peace:
        Sarcasm?
        Hope so!
        Hayat to answer it!?

        I got u!

        Why and by whom and through whom though?
        Did u read guest below?

        Did u listen to Sium Mesfin’s threats and that of Gen Teclebirhan?

        The hunting and the terrosit attacks will continue including that of Dr Abiy!

        Very dangerous scenario!

        U r dealing with a well equipped and hateful and revengeful Terror Group!

        Wasn’t a recent history that the same Terrorist Group was kidnapping and killing people and blaming the others?
        The PFDJ Gang Issue is a separate matter.

        • Peace!

          Hi Hope,

          The people of Tigray are too wise to be dragged through the mud of thugs. If there is potential, why not try a coup while the prime minister is abroad? They know it will be the same the world witnessed in Turkey recently.

          Peace!

  • Paulos

    Selam Rahwa,

    Meles my hero started the impossible and gave the ungrateful lot something to be eternally proud of, the good Engineer believed in the possible and gave his life for it. May his soul rest in peace in the company of extraordinary Ethiopians as in Tewodros, Yohannes, Bekila and of course the one and only Meles the Giant!

    • saay7

      Paulos:

      And I thought we were doing so well. Meles is your hero?

      Ok, awate forum, I wasn’t going to ask you this: but did you all meet and say let’s drice saay crazy? First you don’t say anything when Isaias tries to hand Eritrea over to Ethiopia. Now Meles is a hero of an Eritrean?

      saay

      • Haile S.

        ሳልሕ፡
        ወጹብ! እንታይ እሞ ክንብል! ምጽኣት ኣኺሉ ወደይ’ሺ፣ ምጽኣይ። ተማህለሉ።
        ኢታይ ዓለስ

      • Paulos

        Sal,

        If I am the only Eritrean who found a hero in Meles, well, as they say, there is first time for everything.

      • Peace!

        Hi Saay,

        Are you surprised? I hope not. Eritrean politics is full of እንታይ ድዩ ዘብክየኒ ዘሎ:)

        Peace!

      • Paulos

        ሳል,

        እንታይ’ዳኣ ‘ዛነገር ወሊዕካያ ኣስቂጥካ? 😂.

        • saay7

          Paulos:

          There is nothing more to say other than people have a very loose definition of the word “hero.” Maybe it is a generational thing.

          Whatever his accomplishment, the fact that he vastly expanded a manageable war, refused to talk until his preconditions are met, and then deported tens of thousands of Eritreans (in our 3 degree of separation Eritrea you can assume everyone reading in this forum was directly affected by deportation of an immediate family member, including yours truly) in the most humiliating manner, immediately disqualifies himself from being called a hero by Eritreans who are remotely sensitive to the sensibilities of Eritreans.

          But, what do I know? Semere T just blew my mind by essentially repeating the arguments of Yosief Gebrehiwet on nations and their identities. I think you guys had a secret meeting and said, “let’s gaslight saay.”

          saay

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Saay, regarding the Ethio-Eri war, I’ve seen some people saying that PM Meles was actually not for it. There are even some people who say that he was outvoted by the majority in his politburo who were pushing for the war and expanding it as far as regime change in Eritrea. I don’t know whether such claims indeed are factual, though.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Abraham H.,

            That is factual. Those who were pressuring him from the inside to give the order to deport all Eritreans were also recruiting from the “Qey bahrachin” crowd to challenge his leadership.

            Many maybe forgetting the political atmosphere of those days, but the fact was that all those who opposed TPLF opposed it primarily for its role in Eritrean Independence.

            Although some opposition were beginning to accept TPLF’s role in Eritrean independence, they were however demanding answers for why were Eritreans “getting preferential treatment in Ethiopia.” In fact, many were asking bluntly “why are Eritreans still in Ethiopia” period.

            That was what Ethiopian politics looked like before Badme. So, there he was with the country getting ready to go to war, the federal government in chaos, his party splitting in half, and to make matters worse, PIA refused to give him an inch.

            Even with all these pressures and everything else on the balance, he managed to sanitize the deportation order to include only those “known or most likely to cause harm.” That was what the spirit of the original order was.

            The hardliners, who were getting bolder by the day as their support grew from outside in their defiance to him, took it upon themselves to deport everyone.

            We can argue that as the leader of the country he should bear some responsibility for it, but to blame him for the entire sad state of affair is not fair.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Fanti, thanks for your reply and time. I was actually more interested on Meles’ desire to go to war, that I’ve seen somewhere people talk about his reluctance to escalate the war but was pressured by the hardliners like Gebru Asrat and co. These people were eventually purged out from the tplf leadership as you know very well at the end of the war. My reading is that they were against the Algiers peace agreement, and had almost managed to squeeze out Meles from power, but he won over them miraculuosly. You had your version of G15, though the repercussion to your dissidents was way milder than that of ours.
            Regarding the deportations, I would say Meles had made himself very unpopular among Eritreans to this day when he claimed on tv that he could deport people even if he disliked the colour of their eyes.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abraham,

            Abe, as Saay use to call you, Meles wasn’t reluctant to war only, he was against war and registered his vote in the parliament as “No” when the parliament declared for war (653 “Yes” and 2 “No” in the votes of the two chambers). History is on record that he was against the war, the much hate against him by the Eritreans. He was a leader and implement the decision of the legislative body, as it is the only governmental body that declares war as oppose to ours decided only by the despot. Look the difference.

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. I was in Addis Addis at the time of deportations. Each morning I would feel sick to my stomach watching groups of Eritreans, young and old, who had been collected from their houses during the night and moved to kebele centers to be loaded on buses. Household belongings from generations were up pilferaging by security goons. One’s very own neighbors, sadly became informers and would report them to the kebele. At least in my case, I was given a 24 hour notice and was allowed to leave through the airport.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FM,

            I felt the same thing at that time, but what do you want beyond an apology? Did you hear any apology from the Eritrean leadership for whatever mistake they made? That is difference between the two leaderships.

          • Alex

            Hi Amanuel,
            Apology of Meles is not accepted. To be frank what happen to Eritreans in 1998-1999 is the first ethic cleansing that happen after Rwanda. The way they have to go house to house of any Eritrean at middle of the night to deport them because their Eritrean ancestry is shameful to say least. Do not try to equate the two things. I was in Asmara at the time and nothing close to that happen to any Ethiopian.

          • Amde

            Alex,

            How about the Ethiopians deported/kicked out from Eritrea in 1991? Those whose gold teeth were pulled out and so on?

            People have selective outrage.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Remember, they were not considered human. Simply because they were ኣህያ and ዓጋመ።

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            Indeed.

            It is the selective outrage that is irritating. Most of them spent years living on the Addis streets since they had been thrown out with literally nothing.

            Eritrean deportation was wrong, but the Ethio government has apologized, and for the most part their properties are being returned.

            There is absolutely nothing about justice and compensation for the Ethiopians that were kicked out.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            The Weyanes are to be blamed for it for they feigned a blind eye when the deportation was taking place including when a concerted campaign was underway to vilify Ethiopians including accusing them of poisoning the main water source in Asmara! And again, the Weyanes were bending backward to accommodate Isaias for all his needs only heaven knows why.

            It was extraordinary to see 20 plus years after the fact, wealthy “ኣህዮች” and “ዓጋሜ” coming back to Isaias’ beat up Eritrea to flash their money and invest. Reversal of fortune, as they say. Classic!

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amde. I was in Asmara on Friday, May 24th and afterwards and I honestly did not witness nor did I hear of any EPLF organised/supported deportation of Ethiopians from Eritrea. That is not to say that isolated individual cases did not occur for I believe that they likely did. My observations were only limited to Asmara. What I do remember on liberation day, was that there were numbers of both Ethiopians and Eritreans who were placed in detention based upon association with the Derg security apparatus. For example, the Eritrean head of Agip and the Eritrean representative of UNICEF were quickly locked up. One must remember that on liberation day, that we had some 100,000 Derg soldiers in Asmara that had surrendered that needed immediate, food, water, shelter and medical attention. The EPLF simply did not have the capacity to fully accommodate those needs, as they themselves were just returning from the bushes and trenches. The Ethiopian soldiers were gradually, with the help of the U.N., repatriated back to Ethiopia. Regarding the Ethiopian population in Asmara at the time, some left for Ethiopia on their own volition (as they were afraid), some stayed around only long enough to sell their properties, while others chose to remain. For example, the lady who has now been appointed as the head of the Ethiopian Airline in Asmara is from Tigray though her family had a house and hotel in Asmara and they still do as they were never bothered. I believe that the worst time for Ethiopian in Eritrea was in the couple of years following the border war. At that time, even though GoE was refusing to call it deportation, I am aware that several thousand Ethiopians were sent back to Ethiopia ‘for their own protection’ as the GoE said that they could no longer guarantee their safety.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FM,

            The deportation of our people is caused by the irresponsible evil despot that you are still defending him. Here is how he is responsible he was during the ignition of the border war. There were around 1500 Eritreans incarcerated on suspicion of security reason by the Ethiopian Government. In response to it, the despot publicly uttered that there were not only 1500 EPLFites in Ethiopia, there are 350,000 EPLFites (alluding to the total estimate of Eritreans who reside in Ethiopia at that time). It is after this irresponsible remark of the despot, that the Ethiopian Government was pulling indiscriminately from their homes and deported around 75,000 Eritreans. Add to it, the propaganda they were spreading: “it is not difficult to dismantle the house we built.” The Ethiopian Government was scared of their security.

            In any case, years later the Ethiopian Government apologized officially on the deportation and allowed the Eritreans to reclaim their properties. As a result, two my uncles who were deported, regained their properties. They made a mistake to deport indiscriminately without studying everyone’s case as to wether they are a threat to their security. When mistakes are done, you can only apologize and correct the mistakes. They have done that.

            On the deportation of Ethiopians from Eritrea in 1991, yes it happened, though it wasn’t in mass like what the Ethiopians did. They packed them in buses and escorted them to Zalambessa. The deportee includes the families of the defeated army and Tigrians, though no one know the reasons behind it. And if the two governments and two people are to be reconcile and make some kind rapprochement’s, then we should not live with our past anger. Move on, make peace with yourself to make peace with others.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. Just curious, have you every in your entire life said anything (even remotely) negative about the TPLF or Meles Zenawi?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam FM,

            Oh yes! (a) When you use them to kill your brothers and sisters (b) when they gave “hardship to our citizen” who lived in the Badme region and sheraro areas, in the 70s till early 80s, and when you shamelessly left Badme for them after you kick out ELF jointly from Badme. How about that?

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Aman H., I also heard during the first years of independence, most of the residents of Asseb were Ethiopians, and they were almost all deported to Ethiopia.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            I think some of u guys want to keep and stay with a loser mentality like some african American did and complain the past shortcomings to the present problems and keep the misery status quo the same and stay miserable. I think that is what u lo s want.
            I advise u to listen to 3A discussion with artist community, what he has said about the Jewish and african American community.

          • saay7

            Happy Friday Teodros:

            Two things:

            1. Within the next 2-3 gears, whoever the political enemies of Abiy are now or will be in the future will translate that speech he made about African Americans and send it to an African American advocacy group. And he will apologize for it because it displayed massive ignorance on the subject. A million satoshis on that.

            2. That “loser mentality” was said of Ethiopian opposition when their cause looked hopeless. I think you should just focus on celebrating how fortunate you are that Ethiopia finally has an Abiy and stop lecturing Eritreans because clearly you have no clue on how bad things are and have been for Eritreans.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            When i say loser mentality, i didn’t mean those who r fighting to creat a democratic and just system in ethio and eri .my bad for miss understanding.
            Actually i believe they r the Winer because to fight injustice needs to have a winer mentality.

          • David Samson

            Selam Amde

            I think we should distinguish between the two periods:

            1991.

            Many people from Ethiopian’s background were enablers and collaborators for the Derg. Some of them committed political crimes against innocent Eritrea people. There were also Eritreans who sided with then Derg government and committed crimes as well. While many of the Eritreans went sent to jail, GOE, was left with dilemma – the Ethiopians. Do we put them in jail, or deport them back to Ethiopia?

            The deportations of Ethiopians were carried with the CONSENT of Ethiopian government. “Consent” is the key difference.

            1998:

            Yes, many innocent Ethiopians and Eritreans of Ethiopian origin were unlawfully being deported. I know many of them as my childhood friends and neighbours.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. You are indeed correct in what you have said. At least we agree on something! Also to remind people that prior to liberation, much of Eritrea’s better housing has been taken over by force by the Derg (even earlier on Russians) and Ethiopians connected with the Derg. These people were of course quickly forced out.

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,
            Not really!

            The rightful owners were the ‘Italians’. These ex-fighters should also have deported back to where the came from: the countryside. Some of them were never set a foot on the city, let alone the villas.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. Yes and No: 1) Most of the better housing -pertains mostly to Asmara -but not so much to other cities- was originally constructed/owned by the Italians, but not all. 2) Many Italians has sold properties to rich Eritreans, and 3) Most Italians with homes that were nationalized during the Derg regime had received full compensation payment from the Italian Government thus relinquishing ownership or such property.

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,

            Your no 2. Party right.

            Most of the Italians gave their properties to the locals (Most of them were either their employees’ or friends’) as ‘Gifts’.
            Where are these owners now? They were/ are forcefully being made homeless. The ex-fighters are now the new day-time robbers.
            What distinguish them from the derg soldiers are: The language and their boots.

            3. Is inaccurate: I met the son of Denadai’s(The fruit and vegetable’s owner). He has not received a penny from any government.

            The return of properties to the rightful owners should have been done right after independence. The deceitful EPLF duped us by pretending to be a democratic front, but deep down it never shade it’s Maoists credence.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. At least I know that the De Nadai villa behind the bowling ally, where Sebhat Efrem now lives, had before liberation been sold by the De Nadai family to another Italian who is still living in Asmara, so he obviously did not receive compensation from the Italian government for the villa. A son of old man De Nadai is now head of Unifrutti Group which has a sizable market share of fruit production/wholesale for the Gulf market. Return of properties to rightful owners? At least for the majority of those old Italian villas, they were before liberation under the custodianship of the Derg as original owners, having been paid compensation by the Italian Government had relinquished any claim to future ownership.

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,

            No, No again!

            The Derg had forcefully and illegally confiscated all properties of former owners. The job of the new government should be to return these properties to the right owners- Not only the villas, but also all the cottage industries and factories. I have had the same the view since the early 90s. What are the Maoists being good: destructions?

            While we are it, we should also return the name of the street of ‘Godena Harnet’ to it’s original name: Via Vittorio Emanuel II.

            De Nadai had repeatedly asked IA to return his farm. Imagine where farming in Eritrea would have been by now. De Nadai has also a stake in Philippines and South Africa. I think he has also some stake in ‘DelMonte’.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. By the time of liberation, at least in regards to former Italian owned cottage industries and factories, it was common knowledge, those who had claimed and received compensation from the Italian Government. I do not know a single major Italian industry/factory owner that did not claim and receive compensation. None. You cannot go back in history and reverse the wrongdoings of the Derg and I wonder why you now have sympathy for the Italians who were before in Eritrea, those that generally treated Eritreans like dirt. An Italian who received compensation from the Italian Government for nationalized properties and holdings simply cannot now lay acclaim legal ownership to the same. Though, some tried in vain to desperately do so following liberation. It is simply not possible. You want to change the name of Godana Hartnet? Better you ask PM Abiy to change the name of Haile GebreSelassie Avenue back to Asmara Road.

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,

            I am not interested in compensation. The cottage industries and factories were built by the Italians, not by the locals (Okay, I hear you are saying, they were not built for the locals). What have we shown since the Italians left: Nil? If any, we have been reversing backwards (minus 27 so far).

            I have never forget what my high school teacher told us “ Habesha people are real destroyers”. He had seen Eritrea going though downhill since the Italian’s time.

            Was it not sensible to return them to owners? Segori Mellotti’s daughter was actively supporting the front, in the hope that once the rebels were in charge, she will re-invest and run the factory, employing locals and producing beer for the locals. She was not interested in compensation.

            Even during the Derg time, some of them were running. Merengi is a case in point. It is convenient to blame colonisation, but the alternative is much worse.

            I do not want to get into colonisation mind-set debate as I was die-hard commy.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. The Melotti family definitely received compensation from the Italian Government for Asmara factory and holdings but not for their Massawa villa. I am now in beautiful Roma for a couple of weeks, at this moment among Italian half-casts, if you are in the neighborhood we can discuss over a cold brew. People sometimes forget that even during the 17 year span of Derg control, those already outdated Italian industries became simply antiquated and inefficient. On the other side. I totally agree with you, that it is a,complete shame the way PIA/PFDJ has been on a negative economic trajectory since the border war.

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,
            You seem to be all over the world’s cities at the same time. Do you fly on ‘Concord’?

            Best time to be on the ‘Eternal City’. I love to have a cold Guinness in pub- located in the piazza repubblica, but unfortunately, I am miles away.

            Enjoy the Romance pizza!

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson and thanks! I usually hang around the Eritrean bar/restaurant area in front of the termini . I know piazza republican area, it’s only one metro A stop away from termini. It’s 31c right now and Roma, and I am on my second Nestro.

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,
            Where else can you be in Roma, if you are not in Termini?

            I stayed in a hotel that owned by the Gariele’ brothers, but not sure if they are still around.

            Given it is 31c, you must be a slow drinker, if you are still on your second rounds with ‘Peroni’.

            Harry up as we are going to close in less than half- hour.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. Also to mention, as you probably already know, many among the Italian/Italian half cast community actually remained in Asmara during the Derg period. They paid bribes in order to stay, held properties, had Italian passports and were able to travel freely and leave at anytime.

          • Desbele

            Hi FishMil,
            And now the liberators(tegadelti) has force out Eritreans from their home. I am sure you know about ምውጋን – which literally mean snatching houses from ordinary citizens and give it to “liberators”

          • Desbele

            Selam David,

            But I remember deportations of Ethiopians upto 1994. They were rounded up at እንዳ ሰዓል and sent home. Mostly day laborers, and those involved in menial jobs. I dont think there was consent from ethiopia for those deportees.

          • David Samson

            Selam Desbele,

            Nothing new.

            The deportation of laborers had started from the Italian’s time. During the Derg’s time, many Tigreans who fled from the drought in Tigray used to sleep rough in Asmara. Anyone who was in Asmara at the time could testify. The Deg used to rounded them and sent back to Tigray.

            You need to separate the motives.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam david
            They did same thing in addis, the sent that back where they came and for some to a new settlement.

          • Amde

            Selam David Samson,

            Ah.. the consent… I am sure it was very comforting for them to know their government had their back.

            Many were literally penniless and spent years living on the streets. They were so inconvenient for the government that gave its magnanimous consent that they were pushed into out of way areas beyond public view. If you know Addis, the stone fences along Jan Meda “housed” many of these families for years. When I asked, I was told many of them were workers at Assab port. And that is just one area I know.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            I know so many poeple deported from eritrea who used to live in a shelter in addisu sefur in sarise(used to be dergs time ethiopia “ehel nigde megazen”) .
            If u believe it or not, they moved on and they don’t even talk about it and they even eager to vist eritrea.
            They don’t hold grudge at all. Am talking about the opinion of the victims.

          • David Samson

            Selam Amde,
            Well, let me put it this way:
            The deportation was carried out with the full knowledge of the then Ethiopian government (EG). Whether EG had the legitimacy to represent these people, or had consulted them is an entirely different question.

          • Amde

            Selam David,

            I know what you meant.

            The thing is – the Ethio government could have chosen not to offend the Eri side and kept quite (assuming EPLF had the upper hand at the time), but at least they could have taken care of the people quietly.

            But Nope.

            It was as if any Ethiopian who complains about anything Eritrean deserves to be punished.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            Is this in 1991 or 1998?

            If in 91 makes no sense.

            If 98 it make sense because Ethiopia boycotted the port and there was no economic means for them to stay and support themselves.

            Anyway I don’t think there is a good reason to justify the suffering of the people. I am just following some of the human tragedy caused by the war and the separation of families. I didn’t know so many Ethiopians were also affected that stayed behind in Ethiopia while their family members (Eritreans) were deported and vice versa.

            I think this whole started if Melles could be a hero of Eritreans. Personally no, because he could have avoided the war all together had he have the courage to do so. In the unlikely situation that he couldn’t, good leaders, resign. He said it, in the long term, the country with the large resources should come out a winner and in the process, he went ahead with his plan of chocking Eritrea. And our fool went along with him and gave him all possible excuse.

            It was a night mare of mine since 2001 (iSem can witness) that TPLF long term plan is to see Eritrea disintegrate, and break up and in the process get the Afar side to vote in made up referendum, placing a puppet government (from those up to succession opposition) and join Afar to Ethiopia.

            Eritrea too weak too fight back and leave the people in misery for ethernity.

            That’s why I am over the moon this night mare is over and thank you to the Oromo youth who brought Dr. Abiy and for his courageous action he took to solve the human suffering of Eritreans, Ethiopians and the region.

            Everything else, pales in comparison.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Selam Berhe,

            I think I saw them after the 98 war, but people told me they have been there for years.

            The images of tearful family reunions really touch the heart, and each time I see something like that I remind myself that most politicians are by default psychopaths.

            Here is to good times.

            Amde

          • Desbele

            Hi Amde,

            It is important question you raised.
            I raised the same question in a group discussion/debate once.
            One “proud” Eritrean responded ” Are you comparing Tigrayan shoe shiners, beggars and street vendors with multimillionaire Eritrean deportees?” . It is really sad at this age we have to teach few Africans that all human beings are created equal and need to be treated equal.

            BTW my parents are deported and i first and foremost blame DIA for it. He instigated unnecessary war and blow empty bravado that he will overthrow EPRDF overnight if he wishes so.All this while hundreds of thousands of Eritreans were enjoying double citizenship and thriving in Ethio. I feel the same foolishness with some Eritreans hate towards Tigrayans while the very people of Tigray host 100k of their country men.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            I like you and I wouldn’t make unreasonable argument towards you. But this story of “Ethiopians deported/ kicked out with gold teeth removed” is just a story and i don’t believe it never happened.

            I was not in Eritrea at the time but here is what probably likely happened. I have a heard the story from someone who was there.

            When the Ethiopian generals decided to surrender from Asmara, they were given free path to leave. They left uninterrupted, having their guns pointed out walked away where they can. The story is, they were tired and hungry and thirst, and the people gave them food, water and let them move on.

            The Eritrean women who were married or had relation ship with some Ethiopians solidiers, majority of them decided to pack and leave together.

            The civilians, mostly of Tigray origin, continue to live and work as they always had.

            This the story I know and I believed it’s what happened.

            There is an Ethiopian soludier of Tigray decent goes by the same of Wedi Shamble, I heard his interview on ESAT, not particularly of how they left but describing how things were at the time. He even goes further, the army in Asmara was not defeated and humiliated, but instead chose to leave cause order was given to stop. And they left with their arms, vehicles full and drive out of Eritrea.

            Because I heard this teeth pulling thing many times, it’s just unbelievable that the Eritrean people can do such a thing n the time of euphoria and happiness. There was clear understanding and distinction between the Derg officials and pure forced solidiers who were also victims.

            Berhe

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Berhe, I was also in Eritrea during the first years of independence and never heard of Ethiopians getting their gold teeth pulled out. Sounds really UnEritrean. This the first time I read about such thing.
            But during the border war, esp. when towns like Barentu where captured by the Ethiopians, I heard of many horror stories and killings on Ethiopians in Asmara perpetrated by uncontrolled young mobs.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Amde,
            Ouch.. “Those whose gold teeth were pulled out and so on?” I wasn’t expecting this to pass through your filter. It sounds exactly like the baby incubators allegedly unplugged by Saddam soldiers in Kuwait hospitals during the country’s occupation by Irak.

          • Alex

            HI Amde,

            Not all Ethiopians was kicked out from Eritrea 1991. Most of the people who left or forced to leave Eritrea are derg soldiers, their families and some of their collaborators. So please stop trying to compare to what happen to Eritreans in 1998-1999 with what happen to Ethiopians in 1991, since it like comparing oranges and apples. So do not take the story about some people’s teeth being pulled at face vale.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. The fact of the matter pertaining to deportation is that the Ethiopian Government under the reign of the TPLF pursued a deliberate campaign to deport Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin to Eritrea whereas the PIA/PFDJ GoE never did. A followup investigation by Humans Rights Watch confirmed the same.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. I would hope that a special commission would be established to review property and land issues. So many Eritrean homes were taken during the deportation process, with many still until this day, being occupied by TPLF & Associates.

      • Aligaz G

        Dear saay7,

        bingo (all caps)

    • FishMilk

      Hi Paulos. Congratulations boy! It must feel good for you to come out of the closet and openly declare your woyaneness and TPLF inner soul. I am sure that there must be at least 10 others here that wish they had your stones to do the same.

    • Peace!

      Hi Paulosay,

      First my condolences to the engineer and strength to his family may he Rest In Peace!

      Meles is my hero, thank you for validating my point I was trying to make yesterday. YES The opposition camp harbors love/infatuation for Ethiopia, TPLF led Ethiopia to be more precise, way more than the dictator himself. My family was deported because Meles did like the color of their eyes. This is real, my friend.

      Peace!

      • Paulos

        Selam Abi Seb,

        This is very sensitive and difficult. Certainly my admiration for him is only limited to what he has done for a generation of Ethiopians where gone are the years where a hungry child with a big belly was the posture of the nation. That is to say, his otherwise stellar legacy is tainted with what he did to Ethiopians of an Eritrean origin.

        That was sad and regrettable to say the least. I wouldn’t dare say, it can heal the wounds when he manned up and apologized for it. But to the very least he acknowledged the fact.

        I am sure you found a hero in the young PM who is in a love nest with the man who mercilessly deported Eritreans of an Ethiopian origin and let alone to apologize, he never acknowledged the fact.

        • Peace!

          Hi Paulosay,

          So screw my family because their son supports a new prime minister, thank you for making that clear for me.

          Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            I have family members who got deported from Addis. In fact, one of them got snitched by a business competitor and before he knew it, he found himself in Asmara. The interesting thing is, my relative is not bitter for he tries to see the bigger picture instead. My apologies if I hurt your feelings. I mean it!

        • Haile S.

          Selam Paul,
          Concerning the misery of the Eritrean people, Meles is the offsite architect and Isayas the onsite engineer.

          • Amde

            Selam Haile S.

            “Concerning the misery of the Eritrean people, Meles is the offsite architect and Isayas the onsite engineer.”

            I am surprised to see you say this, and I would like to ask if you can elaborate. You if all people are not cavalier about words, and this seems to me an astounding claim.

            Amde

          • Haile S.

            Selam Amde,

            Words or expressions are used to explain one’s feeling or take without necessarily going through detailed presentation. That was what I tried to do. Now, thank you for the kind words and for giving me the opportunity to explain. First, context matters, I was replying to Paulos, an eritrean, who mentioned that PMMZ is his hero. And I as an eritrean, was reacting to what Paulos said that he is not mine, using a different expression.
            It is precisely the cavalier nature of the fight of the two leaders (PMMZ & PIA), i.e. the non consideration of the impact of the war on the innocent people, the Eritrean people, using so protracted and so theatrical policies and its devastating consequences on these innocent people that led me to say that. Both in their own manners and on diffetent occasions have expressed their sympathy for the eritrean people (not excluding ethiopians, but just for the sake of staying on the subject of discussion). However since the eruption of the war, to my understanding, none has really put into consideration the consequences of their devastating policies on the innocent people. Every policy they followed to blow the head of the other, blew the head of the innocent people. I am not going into details on who did what, at what moment because of what etc etc that has been discussed ad-lib at this august forum. The reason I said PMMZ was an architect is that he used every opportunity, regional and international capabilities to reach his goal that at the end hurt badly the eritrean people. PIA a local engineer, because his response and defense to those attacks was squeezing those same people under his control. I am saying these not because of their plan to do “good”, but because of the devastating consequences of their plan to do good.

          • Amde

            Selam Haile S.,

            Thank you for the clarification.

            I was just taken aback, because typically an Architect sets a plan out, and an engineer executes/implements those plans. That was what I had in mind, and so it appeared to me what you were saying was that we are where we are because Isayyas was a willing executor of Meles’ grand plans. I agree the situation is much rather what you have explained.

            Thank you sir.

            Amde

        • Alex

          Hi Paulos,
          Why don’t you be a man and stick with your belief that Meles is your hero. You don’t say some body is your Hero because he did good thing for his people. From what I know he was not good to his people. He ordered his agazie forces to kill more than 200 innocent Ethiopians in addis abeba in day light since they protested on the rigged election in 2005. Do you have any shame left. I see none my friend.

        • ghezaehagos

          Selam Paulos,

          As ever for me, the yardstick is only one: Eritrean people as its interests represented by justice seeking community, we call the Eritrean opposition. At this stage of furious introspection, we at the justice-seekers should acknowledge the pernicious role Meles Zenawi played in dealing with Eritrean justice-seeking community.

          Instead of genuinely supporting us, Meles Zenawi chose not to; may be he saw us possibly as another threat coming from Eritrea; or whatever. He posited Eritrean nationalism or so called ‘superiority complex’ must be broken at any cost and he rather feebly host myriad of contradictory groups.

          Think of that: the organization that broke its back to join with other nationalities, Amhara, Oromo, ‘Debub hizboch’, etc knowing only a unified opposition can have legitimacy, (yes that is the EPRDF), suddenly was anarchically democratic and generously accommodating when it comes to hosting every Eritrean wanna be opposition that sets its foot in Addis over the past 20 years.

          Meles never took Eritrean justice seeking community seriously. They had a Sana-Forum, a position that was led by one incompetent general, with little resources. It was all nominal. Compare that to the vast support Ethiopian opposition got from the cash-deprived Isaias regime!

          Meles set a legacy; it didn’t get any better after his death.

          Methinks he aint a hero. Yes, helping us may not be to his national interest. That is fine; but, he couldn’t be a hero for Eritreans.

          Thanks,

          Ghezae

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Paulos,

      Meles is a giant to many Ethiopians, a visionary man who build modern Ethiopia with its Federal Government, that gives an autonomy to govern themselves to nations and nationalities, who were otherwise fighting each other for centuries. A man with a remarkable leadership who changed the psychology of Ethiopian people that Ethiopian can survive and thrive without Eritrea and its ports and showed them many alternatives, a man whose economy policy became an exemplary to many African countries, a man who convinced the world bank and IMF finally convinced by him

      • Nitricc

        Hey Aman-H: are you still mourning about the death of Melless; lol
        Aman, last night I was lestining to the interview of Eng-Gidey Zerhatsion on Ethiopian tv. Among other things the journalists asked Gidey if he regrated what he has said when Melles Zenawi passed-away. And Gidey’s response was, No I am happy he died. I will repeat it now; God have saved us from that monster something that sort. Egziabiher Gelagelen was his exact Amharic words. I mean who knows better Melles than Gidey Zerhatsion? Normally people
        talk nice things about the dead but when came out with those statements, it tell you everything you need. For some, the love of Melles is motivated by the hate to PIA. There is one minor problem though, One is dead and the other is well and alive.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Nitrickay,

          Meles was for Ethiopians, he was not for Eritreans. But I admire his vision for his people and his commitment to the “Poor Ethiopians”. Grow up please.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam aman h
        Even meles’s familys will not say about meles the way u said it , with ur tone and admiration. What u simply saying is “yettekel asheker” “fukera” .u also simply said i can be unbelievably low and nonsense.
        The point is, its ok to admire whoever u want to admire but u don’t have to be emotional.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam TA,

          I can not be emotional, for it has nothing to do with my people and my nation, what ever he does to the poor Ethiopians. I am just giving my witness, for a leader in my neighbor country, who did a great job to his poeple in his tenure as PM, as simple as that.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            If u know about ethiopians, u will know meles’s nagative contribution to ethio out perform by far his positive jobs. That is the vast majority of ethiopian think about him. So that lead me to say ur witness is ideological and emotional based.

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat,

            It is estimated that just one gulag Didessa had 40,000 political prisoners during Meles time. Majority Oromos. Yet you as as a member of the Eritrean opposition still have no qualms singing his praises. Raises a lot of questions. Extremely cynical of you

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Aligaz,

            Did you disagree specifically on what I have stated? If you disagree let me hear it. If you don’t then he deserve praising him for those achievements, and not for his failures.

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat

            Ok let us try to think rationally about Meles.

            Let me start by assuming you meant to use the word “rational” and not “rationale”.

            So yes there were economic gains over the last 27 yrs under Meles regime as indicated by GDP etc. However we are lucky enough to have what can be considered the perfect control in Eritrea and voila we find the primary economic indices are mostly similar if not better. Therefore it is difficult to prove causality. In fact it looks at best a case of correlation. Therefore if Melesian Economics equate with simply a PR exercise then any “rationale” (that word again) for excusing egregious democratic and human rights violations falls apart.

            Now if we are considering bilateral relations others have alluded to Meles deporting Eritreans during the war and putting in place a NWNP policy which lasted for years. Furthermore TPLF always viewed relations with EPLF as tactical. Who needs enemies with friends like these …right.

            But if we are simply trying to be political then what you are espousing is elementary
            Realpolitik. Which incidentally is what the Eritrean Opposition is accusing PMAA of exercising while those in defense of Abiy point to dictatorial tendencies of the Opposition etc. Democracy and peace are the order of the day.

            BTW nothing wrong with being a Realpolitk practitioner – simply learn to take your lumps when it’s your turn.

            Cheers

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Aligaz,

            You didn’t disprove my points, on Meles’s contribution to Ethiopia, as I have listed in my earlier comment. Which part of my points you disagree? Just look, even the grand project “GERD” that was half way to completion is now stopped, Just after his death, what ever the reason behind it. I do not see a “courageous visionary leader” yet after him, who could make a diplomatic fight and bring it into completion this great project, that will completely change the economic life of Ethiopians. Leaders are appreciated for what they have done to their people in their tenure, not for what they haven’t done. You are talking for things he hasn’t done, and I am talking for what he has done. Meles’s achievements will be the measuring stick for all leaders who came after him, unless someone exceeds to what he has done to Ethiopian unity and economic developments. We shall see.

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat,

            Thank you for refocusing our minds on Meles’ positive contributions. Most Ethiopians had already forgotten about him and his band of merry kleptocrats. History is an unforgiving judge. Enver Hoxa anybody? I didn’t think so.

            Cheers

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            Based on ur argument HS too need to take the cradit . the pepper work the plan started during HS time . and remember gred is not benefiting ethiopia untill now.it is still work on progress, And meles dead 6 years ago.

        • Blink

          Dear Teodrose
          The good thing is Ethiopians I mean majority of them don’t want to see Meles picture and that is good thing. Who can actually get any hint about Meles from some people who wanted to use weyane tanks to kill Eritreans. Now why do you think some people from Eritrean opposition admire him ? The only reason because Meles was their good partner in dividing Eritreans across Ethnic lines . Meles in most Oromia and Amhara media is seen as a villain killer and yet his political views as well as economics vision for Ethiopia is getting crushed . Good time to be alive and see this .

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            I judge people based on thier heart bet through thier comment, sometimes i might be wrong but i simply don’t trust some of them .
            How do u know who they r?

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            I know most of them in person and I can recognize their faces from millions of people.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            I was expecting u said that.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Blink,

            1) You do not have the numbers to back the use of the word “majority”.

            2) Even if we, for the sake of argument, assume the majority dislike Meles, it may or not be for a valid reason.

            3) If you did not know already, the Amhara and Oromo jointly ruled Ethiopia for many hundred years and have committed many killings.

          • Blink

            Dear Simon
            1.Meles was ruling Ethiopian people by iron clad because he knew he can not rule Ethiopia especially in the first experiment of Ethnic politics in Africa .
            2.First and formidable reason there is no such called valid reason in politics especially if the political landscape is based on Ethnic politics.
            3. Any one can judge how and who is being labelled as Yeken Jiboch. The fact that we see over 40,000 Tigrians being crushed illegally from the Amhara and Oromo kilil tells all about the numbers.

            4. Meles intentionally wanted to crush Eritrea. Under his watch Meles ordered the crucifixion of 90,000 Eritreans and took their money and property.
            5.Meles open the gate of bullets to rain just to get his power .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            1) Ethiopia is a “developing” country, it had been run by dictators of one sort or another, and it will continue to be run similarly in the immediate future. Skip the current hype.

            2) In Ethiopia, ethnic politics has always been there, although it was not formalised as it is now. When those ethnic groups, who are now crying, had the upper hand they never complained. In the past, ethnic politics and economic resource domination was done with a wink and a nudge.

            3) Your assertion of “majority” is not statistically proven. Does it occur to you that there could be a silent majority?

            4) The TPLF had made many mistakes on Eritrea. But, to err is human. Had the TPLF made similar gestures towards Eritrea as Abiy Ahmed has done, it is highly likely that they would have been accused of “betraying” Ethiopia. The name of the game is, what ever it is blame it on Tigrayans.

          • Blink

            Dear Simon
            I think to just pass TPLF mistakes as human err is not fair sir . TPLF did not blander on one thing instead their policy was crafted in months if not years and that kind of policy can not be human err. Human error is a technical matter that got slipp away from the intentional policy but this was not human err. I think you are over simplifying the horror story that Eritreans and many Ethiopians are telling each day . The consequences of the TPLF policy is going to stay at least 5 to 6 generations. If we are to creat good relationships we have to be honest about the past. TPLF played a major role in dispersing Eritrean opposition and yet hold the border issue to go on and on for years. Simon poor countries can not simply blame everything on how poor they are , I believe the world was singing about a democratic Ethiopia.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            You seem to have skipped the points I have tried to address. Furthermore, to say “to err is human” includes error of judgement. You also need to broaden your horizons, rather than remain confined in a narrow world view.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Teodros,

          Which part of what Amanuel H. said about Meles do you object?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            1st, reread what i said .2nd, stay away from fake news(ur own news) and try to find out urself if the accomplishments of meles as aman h said it , if it is true or false or extremely exaggerated or twisted or if meles need to take the cradit or somebody else and than come back.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            I repeat,

            Which part of what Amanuel H. said about Meles do you object to?

            Stop prevaricating and answer a simple question.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            The whole exaggerated, laying.twisted .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            The “whole” is exaggerated?

            For example Meles graduated from Wingate School with straight ‘A’s. Also, by the time he dropped out of University [HSIU] as a 2nd year student of Medicine, his GPA was 3.8. Is this exaggerated?

            Now, tell us about your achievements, without exaggerating.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            He aman h didn’t mention about student of medicine, his gpa something like that.
            I know for u it is all about trib(ethnic) , not fact based. Am happy 24/7 with beautiful life .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            I think you are full of noise with empty content.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I think u don’t know any thing better than trib.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            Admit it, you are a noisy dimwit.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            He will not give you a simple answer for a simple Question you posed at him. I do not think he is capable to do that. So do not waist your time. If he is not from the Oromo or Amhara, he is not good for him.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            I think he could be one of those dimwit Ethiopian Dergists or Tigray hating ethnic fanatics who are taking advantage of awate forum’s open door policy.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            Did i say anything about tigrai ?
            go back and reread urself aman h claim of meles accomplishments and ask me if u find there was nothing exaggerated and not false? I don’t care if meles tigrai or what ever he is . actually he was and his folowers like u guys r the one who know about narrow mind, ethnic .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            You have been crying day in day out, when is it going to stop?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            U r one sad dimwit person who can’t be proud of urself and like i said u don’t know anything better except being fake. Stop ur nonsense, if u disagree for what i said to loser aman h , u can ask otherwise stop ur nonsense.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Simon Kaleab. Not so sure about your neutrality on the matter as about a month ago you said ‘We are all proud Agames. Thanks God we are not Muslim Arab clones’.

          • Teodros Alem

            Aelam aman h
            I know u been a loser for all of ur poltical life and i know ur comment is intended to ofend other in order to satisfy ur loser ego, that was why i never took u ….

        • Blink

          Dear Teodrose
          Don’t try to convince a person who has the DNA of Ethics politics in his head . Meles for such people is just like Jesus or Mohammed to the radicals . He can actually stop replying to because the frustration about your words is going to overwhelm his reasoning.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            Why don’t u just come out and say what ever u wanna say?just like Fanti is proud tplf and proud tigrai. I and almost every body respect him.
            Is that error “ethics” and ” frustration about ur words”?

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            Lol , I have to ask, why you do this ? Stop playing

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            U right. Stop wasting ur time.

  • Blink

    Dear readers

    Who could benefit for killing a leading gered engineer ?
    1.TPLF old guard
    2.Abiy government
    3.The Italian company
    4.TPLF
    5. TPLF

    who is going to use his death to grap headlines from the politics of the day ? You can check who commented about the deaths and is trying to wave the middle finger against Abiy government. Luckily Ethiopia has millions of young and old men and women engineers who can do the job .

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam blink
      R u saying egypt is not a suspect or r u saying tplf is gonna be blamed unfairly?
      U know am admirer of Saay7 intelligence except when he think u r ….. Nationality.

      • Blink

        Dear Teodrose
        I don’t see Egypt benefit from this . They could have done this long time ago ,if they infact believe removing people from this project, they can swing to the Italian company as well as take out Meles long time ago but they did not . I suspect this to be the work of old wolves . It is perfectly reasonable to blame the old guards .

        What has saay intelligence to do with this ? I mean , does intelligence has to do with anything that said in this forum ? . There are many online IQ test providers .

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam blink
          So ur answer will be b(the tplf).
          Am just expressing my admiration except u know.

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            What is this all about? Come on don’t you think this is the work of Metec old guys work ? I don’t see anyone to blame except the Metec guys and all these are the babies of Abay Tsehaye.

            What you are saying about George ? Who blamed him and about what ? I just did not read comments blaming george. Help me abt it .

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            I already gave 50% chance for day time hyenas, any hyena amara , tigrai , oromo hyenas that includes the corruption guys and so on. And 49% for egypt and 1% for other issues. @george has been blamed for thinking u r who u r.

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            Blamed for thinking u r who u r ? What is this ? You are making slow again , who am I ? Are you still in your old time thinking I am Ethiopian ? Damt no , I am not . You are making hayat feel happy about this . Why would I act as Eritrean if I am infact Ethiopian ? What is the point?
            Could you find any comments that I made in this forum, I mean by thousands of them to help you defend your belief .

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            Good question, do u know how eprdf supporters function, 1, there r the known supporters, the cadres, the gov officials starting from kebele all the way to high post.
            2nd, there r acting as normal people who don’t care about poltics but they help eprdf through different tectonics. Mostly they r the religious people, the business people, the very famous individuals and so on.
            3rd, the acting anti eprdf people , this people u see them every where when some anti eprdf incident happened. They all over inside the opposite, the have there own opposition , a lot of media, they exist in almost in every part of the society.
            And all of them r by chain members of eprdf.

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            Rest assured that I am non of these kind of people. I don’t have anything to do with EPRDF. I don’t believe I supported them in anyway possible. I think I should not say more .

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; just put things together. You were told the GERED was near completion and the PMAA goes to visit and he finds it out that nothing was done and it was all hoopla and propaganda. How PMAA finds this things out? by talking to the site manager. PMAA says nothing but alerted the people about the magnitude of the corruption and lowered people’s expectations. The people have been paying to the bone for this fake project. Then PMMA leaves the country while the Engineer is scheduled to give interview for tomorrow and suddenly the Engineer is dead.
            One, They, meaning TPLF thugs and Two, killed himself, the pressure too great to bare. The way I see it those two are the options. I am leaning to option one because why wait to kill the man until PMAA leaves the country?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I thought about it and that was why i gave 50% chance for those day time hyenas for the killing.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; unless PMAA and his crew starts what is proven method in Africa to preserve law and order and install a fear of god in to the day-light hyenas, the stick; nothing will work. I like his idea and what he is trying to do but I don’t see it, unless he goes armed and go at it, head-on-collision.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            If u listen his “enough is enough, we r human , stop pushing us to the limit” speech,I think it show he is about to use a big stick. And he will for sure.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy; if PMAA is nice to PIA, maybe PIA will show him the ropes. PIA can lend and provide very reliable action of plan. Ethiopia needs to clean-up; fast!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            We don’t know how big is the problem and don’t know what the inside talk between Pm 3A and PIA. But if things going as ms hayat said it(predicted) , PIA help and experience will be for sure.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Nitricc,

            Let us go back to 20 June 2018 and hear Isaias’ discourse to conceive what is going on today. Isaias accepts the peace call from the Ethiopian leader, but why did he divide the Ethiopian people though he knows very well they are brothers. He welcomed a peace coated with hatred; he sees Ethiopia as Weyane and non-Weyane. Why did he do that is an important question? We get the answer in today news. The man was preparing his audience for the Orwellian Drama. Anything happens to the Animal Kingdom is the work of Snowball, Weyane.

            The crime that is perpetuated in Addis today is knitted by a skilled criminal to reply to the message sent to him by Al-SiSi from Sudan last week. It is an urgent response Al-Sisi and the Sheikh not to take action.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Alarabi: I read your posts and I see some fairness in you and that fairness should not stop when it comes to PIA, it shouldn’t. Now, the game was on! Simply at the level of eat or be eaten! Eritrea has no one on her side while the Weyane are supported from the USA all the way to toothless Djibouti. TPLF tried everything trick in the book to end PIA’s Eritrea. I am going to tell what has happened but from Sanction to all out suffocation was in play to kill Eritrea. Amazingly and daringly Eritrea fought day in and day out for survival. Once the Ethiopian’s uprising took place, PIA started to see the light at the end of the tunnel and; I don’t this
            for a fact but he will be a fool if he wasn’t adding some real fuel to get the Weyane. Again, I don’t know this for a fact but crushing TPLF is number priority for PIA, from what I see. So, what you observed in Addis, the way PIA acting and saying was nothing but to stick it the heart of TPLF. I don’t think anything makes him happy other than what he did to TPLF. If you go to eat, sometimes you get eaten, perfect practice of, rules of engagement. PIA will not stop till all the top TPLF are gone, so, you will some animosity between the two tillTPLF is in the history bins. That is howPIA roles. He won!

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Blink.
      First thing is first and we ask ourselves what is the motive?

      Tplf has build its 27 empire by one race first back ward racist policy with a strange one ethnic based government which manged to monopolize a nation economy through military and malicious corruption.

      Woyane looses its power in Ethiopian government. One of its milk cow was this hydraulic power plant. The engineer and many of the contractors know too much about the dam. So woyane dont take risk of being exposed its another horror story. So silencing the engineer is one way to go. Another aspect could be woyane is giving signal that if they are not in the Dam project then this is what they can do. METEC was not there for fun. It has all the necessary document what to do with the dam in case the woyane couldnt use their cow the way they want.

      • Blink

        Dear Mitiku
        Yes this is Sibhat Nega and Abay Tsehaye sending a letter of interest to the Abiy government. Do you remember the letter of bye bye to both of them from Abiy , now they are signaling they can play the game of evil because they know it .

    • FishMilk

      Hi Blink. Large numbers, mainly TPLF & Associates, have been under investigation on corruption charges. The lead engineer probably had the scoop on a lot of them.

  • Desbele

    Hope,
    እንታይ ችግር እኔዎ?

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    This is really sad and heart breaking. My heart felt condolences to his family and to the Ethiopian people.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Paulos, I’m really saddened today to learn about the death of one of modern Ethiopia’s greatest sons. What a loss! The great engineer was for me, one of those people you just happen to like without meeting them; he looked very humble and kind, yet with the skills and determination to see through the great grand project of GERD. May his soul rest in peace, my heartfelt condolenses to his family, friends, colleagues, and the entire Ethiopian people.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hayat & Dr Paulos,

      Condolence to the family and the Ethiopian people. They lost a great man associated with the grand project and big vision as such, that is on hold now. Very sad.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi All,

    My condolences to all Ethiopians and his family. It is a great loss to miss an Eng. in charge of GERD.

    I hope Ethiopians to take care million times from the serpent they hugged. Take a lesson from the Eritrean people who are bleeding.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Ethiopia,
    My condolemces to you. You should declare national mourning on the loss of your modern hero and you should give him a decorated state funeral. You owe it to your people to explain his death. . He was leading you to win a war against Egypt. This could have been seen coming. This shouldn’t hold you back from completing the project,

  • Hayat Adem

    so now i heard eng simegn bekele, the one guy in charge of GERD was found dead at mesqel square.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hayat,
      I also read the news in youtube. But do you think it’s corroborated?

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Ismael,
        Too early to tell. You wouldn’t rule that out when it is a person of that kind that is found dead suddenly while driving

        • guest

          HA
          I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out that TPLF is behind the murder. “No grass should grow after my death” is and has been TPLF’s driving motive. Nobody is going to buy your unusual mild comment. Twisted heart!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi again,
        Engineer Simegn was heading to give a press conference at the Communication Office. He had called journalists and some of them were already there waiting for his arrival. On last Monday, one person had a coffee with him and few from Sallini. were also present. I talked to that person minutes ago with the help of a common friend, Engineer SB was asked by this person if he was disappointed by what the PM said on Saturday about the project. To that, Eng Simegn said, “not disappointef but surprised as the reality in the ground starkly different..” Probably his press conference was going to about those issues.

        • Now inc.

          Hayat,
          Thanks for the info. We now wait for Nitricc, who is super good at scavengering Ethiopia related gossips😆

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam ms hayat
          The day time hyenas(50%) or egypt(49%) r behind the killing. I give 1% chance for other issues.
          Any way lets wait what 3A has to say about it.but i guaranty u, it will be a source of motivation and anger and will lead to a better performance for the construction of gred. So hold ur …

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Hayat,

          You said:

          “On last Monday, one person had a coffee with him and few from Sallini. were also present. I talked to that person minutes ago with the help of a common friend”.

          Seriously, you are that close to the power echelon?

          Really sad to hear the news, but this may delay the project but will not stop it. It is really sad to get the engineer murdered without looking the end of the project.

          Who ever is behind this act, they really have a huge problem to see the country move forward. Killing this civilians, last time the cement factory manager, now this engineer is really cowards acts.

          The government should act swiftly to restore order and do all possible to go after those responsible. I am afraid, their next target will have catastrophic consequences.

          Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selamat Berhe,

            Listen to Radio Erena’s interview with Mesfin Hagos.

          • Berhe Y

            Thank you David.

            Do you mean SBS radio, I didn’t see it at Radio Erena?

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Hi Berhe,
            No, in today’s Radio Erena’s broadcast. Radio Erena has a 24- hours broadcast. In fact, it is an hour program, but keep repeating the same hour. Please go to the live’s website. I can’t attach the link due to Awate’s rule.

          • Berhe Y

            Thanks David.

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    My pleasure and glad you found it interesting. As you put it, we’re here to learn from one another and of course throwing Testa and Bugna here and there as well 😂. God bless!

  • ‘Gheteb

    Snippets From What Some Ethiopian Big Names Are Saying About Eritrea

    Greetings!!

    Amid the imbroglio in some corners of the anti-Eritrean and anti-PFDJ camp about Eritrea’s sovereignty being compromised; Eritrea’s unity with Eritrea is in the air and the impending sale of Eritrea is all but a matter of time, one hears sane pronouncements from some Ethiopian panjandrums that are suffused with sagacity.

    From former Ethiopian PM, Hailemariam Desalgn to G7’s Birhanu Nega and from Andergatchew Tsege to Neamin Xeleke, find below some of the pieces that these gentlemen said about Eritrea and it’s leader.

    First, Neamin Zeleke, Patriotic Ginbot 7 Movement

    “Ethiopia and Eritrea are two different countries. That fact must be recognized and accepted by Ethiopians. The question is how can we celebrate our shared heritage and unique connection without encroaching on each other’s independence”.

    “Indeed, Eritrea was the only country when almost all countries of the world turned their backs on the Ethiopian people as they struggled against tyranny, for justice and freedom. The tyrannical regime in Ethiopia was able to persuade or coerce every other nation to aid and abet its brutal security apparatus to suppress our voice and struggle of our people for freedom and dignity”.

    “The advent of peace and broad agreements reached by PM Abiye Ahmed and President Isaias have now ushered a new chapter and a new beginning for peace, stability, cooperation, and partnership. This change will allow both countries to shift all human, material, and financial resources currently deployed to maintain the prevailing “no war, no peace” status quo to programs and projects designed to improve the lives of ordinary people in the two nations. But there will be many challenges ahead. We will be confronted with many thorny issues that demand creative solutions with a win-win formula. We must sweat every detail to ensure that one party does not ride on the back of the other. Every step must be transparent and clear to the public. Care must be taken to avoid mistakes that would trigger a reversal of the hard-won peace and normalization of the relationship”.

    Second, former Ethiopian PM Hailemariam Desalgne

    ” You just came from your meeting with the President?

    This is my first sit-down with the President of Eritrea. I saw him once in Qatar when I was the Minister of Foreign Affairs and assistant to the Prime Minister. Today, we talked from the heart for more than two hours.

    And I understood that we are both alike. If we have had the opportunity to talk before, I understood that we could have accomplished so much together. Today, we talked about how to move forward. There is nothing good that comes out of repeating the past. We have also talked about the economic cooperation of both countries and how to work together in unison.

    At the Millennium hall, during the President’s visit to Ethiopia, he came to greet me. He asked if that was me and hugged me. I don’t think I have words to tell you what I felt at that moment. I have always known that someday that would happen”

    Now compare that to what all the hoopla is all about in the anti-Eritrean camp about Eritrea being on sale and why the denizens of PLANET ILLOGIC have been whipped into a frenzy about a non-existent issue of Eritrea’s sovereignty being compromised . All the political hysteria that we are witnessing in the anti-PFDJ camp is surely much ado about NOTHING!

    .

    • saay7

      Selamat Gheteb My Favorite Cuz:

      I am sure as you were writing these pieces down, with the editorial writer’s flair for coming up with definitive titles, you actually thought you were making a slam-dunk, open-and-shut case dismissing the allegations of Planet of the Tape (that you can rewind) that IA was compromising, or coming dangerously close to compromising, Eritrea’s sovereignty and autonomy. I am sure that by quoting extensively the words of Ethiopians, you were creating a perfect alibi for Isaias Afwerki.

      But.

      But you are wrong and here’s why. What we were saying is: Isaias Afwerki keeps trying to throw away Eritrea’s autonomy, and the Ethiopians keep fixing it for him. Examples:

      Isaias: Anyone who says Eritreans and Ethiopians are peoples of two countries doesn’t know history
      Abiye: Eritreans and Ethiopians are one people in two countries.

      Isaias in Tigrinya: Whatever needs to be done, you are the delegate. You are our leader.
      Abiy in Amharic: What President Isaias said is that I want you to take the responsibility and you can count on your big brother helping you.

      Isaias: What has been happening in the last 25 years….. (i.e. since, 1993, Eritrea’s referendum)
      Abiy in Amharic: what has been happening in the last 20 years (i.e. since 1998, the war)

      So these two Ethiopians are fixing Isaias surrendering of Eritrea and saying, “no thanks. You are a separate country.”

      Try again:)

      saay

      • Amde

        Saay,

        Maybe it is verbal jiu-jit-su?

        As in “I say what I think the Ethiopians really want to say, but it sounds so ridiculous they end up saying what I want to truly say.”

        Not plausible?

        Amde

        • saay7

          Sir Amde:

          Or, or it’s just Occam’s Razor. The simplest explanation is the most plausible.

          Once is an accident. Twice is a trend. Three times, it’s a statement of fact.

          saay

      • Guest

        Hi SAAY,

        You are brutal! How do you do it?
        You make a desperate thing sound a joke.
        Your analysis are comic yet fact based. You exactly quoted the guy ( DIA). I remember somewhere you said something like the guy (DIA) is just a jumble of emotions. Here you are clearly showing what it means.

        • saay7

          Guest:

          Thanks but not trying to be brutal. Just pointing out things that I saw and heard. I saw and heard the prez of Eritrea turning over his duties to the Ethiopian PM and the Ethiopian PM deftly turning it down and shielding him from continuously making a clown of himself and a mockery of my country.

          If anybody else had said what Isaias said, done what Isaias did, all the people pretending they didn’t see what I saw, hear what I heard would be having complete meltdown.

          saay

          • Guest

            Hi SAAY,

            I agree with you. He is forfeiting his presidency. And the sovereignity of the country that he is supposed to represent.
            A small shop owner would say let me consult witm my wife to sell something at a discounted price.
            DIA can dispose of the whole country at whim without consulting anyone. After all no body gave him a contract to govern.

          • saay7

            Guest:

            Clearly, for him, the whole “Eritrean sovereignty” was a path to be in a position to dictate terms to Ethiopia. Having failed at that and having squandered precious lives and huge opportunities for Eritreans, now he just wants to give it away, as part of his retirement package. Descriptions used by people who knew him a long time:

            ሰሱዕ – greedy- Ibrahim Affa
            ስምዒቱ ዝቕድሞ – emotional – Mesfin Hagos
            Stubborn – Isaias Afwerki on Isaias Afwerki

            saay

          • Paulos

            Selam Sal,

            Do you have a theory why he does all the things we all say he does when he was expected to lead in fairness and justice as a leader of a country? He must have one single reason. No?

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam saay7

        1. – “Isaias in Tigrinya: Anyone who says Eritreans and Ethiopians are peoples of two countries doesn’t know history.”

        So what’s wrong with that? You and I could’ve said the same thing any day. Yes, we Eritreans and Ethiopians are not JUST people of two countries. We are not Nigerians and Pakistanis, we are not Kenyans and Brazilians, we’re not Haitians and Norwegians. We are more than “people of two countries”. And you know it!

        2.- “Isaias in Tigrinya: Whatever needs to be done, you are the delegate. You are our leader.”

        In this phrase context matters. If the objective is to achieve one integrated East African strong economy as a cohesive unit, for million reasons, Ethiopian leadership is a necessity to make that objective a reality. And realizing and accepting that fact is job one in that long journey.

        Have you heard the phrase Western democracy under US leadership? Isn’t the president of the US (as respected as Ronald Reagan or as not so respected as Donald Trump) always the leader of the “free world”? So, if there is nothing wrong with Western capitalism/democracy being under US leadership (due to its economic and military muscle) then why not East African economic miracle under Ethiopian leadership?

        The fact of the matter is, Nigeria is the leader of West African States, South Africa is the leader of Southern African States, Egypt is the leader of Northern African States (I think even the Arab countries). Now tell me: what is wrong with Isaias speech if you see it from that perspective – which you should?

        3. Isaias in Tigrinya: What has been happening in the last 25 years….. (i.e. since, 1993, Eritrea’s referendum). Abiy in Amharic: what has been happening in the last 20 years (i.e. since 1998, the war).

        The Ethio-Eritrean war under the Woyane dominated Addis regime didn’t start in 1998. May 06, 1998 was a trigger date – not a cause or a start of war and animosity between the two kin across the Mereb River. It is illogical for two sovereign nations to wake-up one morning and wage full-scale war the next day. If you don’t know, ask the Eritrean citizens who were on the receiving end of the short stick of the Woyane cadres and their ጠራሮ at the Tigray Eritrea border prior to May 06, 1998.

        Semere Tesfai

        • saay7

          Selamat Semere:

          On 1, well, there is a long Eritrean literature on the armed struggle that counters your argument. In fact, what you are saying is exactly what Ethiopians used to say to dismiss the rationale for the armed struggle. Using your argument, Eritrea and Ethiopia are one people; Eritrea and Sudan are one people; Ethiopia and Sudan are one people; Eritrea and Djibouti are one people; Ethiopia and Kenya are one people. It is confusing the subset for the set. And if it wasn’t a flawed argument, PM Abiye wouldn’t have taken the trouble of fixing it in the translation.

          Remember also that his assertion of “anyone who says Eritreans and Ethiopians are people of two countries doesn’t know history” was preceded by “from now on.” So I guess history has been revised from that date on.

          On 2: In almost every interview IA had with Eri-TV, he lamented the idea of “anchor states”, of regional powerhouses, in his rants about Fukuyama and Huntington. In every interview for 12+ years. This anchor state idea that he railed against as an invention of hegemonists, in every year in every interview, is now reversed and embraced?

          On 3: Too silly to merit a response. With all due respect.

          saay

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Semere Tesfai,

          In accordance to your comparison, no Arab country has handed their leadership to Al-SiSi; no west African country gifted their country to Nigeria. South Africa doesn’t hear same words from her neighbors. Djibouti or Somali leaders do not granted their country leadership to their neighboring country.

          Now, Mr. Semere, I challenge you to come out with one leader in history who donated his leadership, even by courtesy as you claim or officially, to his neighbor country leader. A leader of a sovereign country will never do that or crosses his mind even in his dream. A true Eritrean will never do or defend it The only guy who has done it is the guy who is infatuated by slavery. He doesn’t feel pleasure except when he is trodden by his masters.

          Do you want, Mr. Semere, people to belie what they have watched and heard to believe your fable stories and hallucination?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi AlArabi,
            I hope you remember the word “Goblel” that Isaias popularized. Back then he was fiercely objecting to Ethiopia, South Africa, Nigeria, and Egypt becoming regional anchor (anchor) states to serve the interest of the USA —his herd was echoing the same indignation. Now that he has reversed his position and accepted Ethiopia as a goblel, the are echoing the same with excitement. As the Turks would say, Adeb yok:-)

          • saay7

            Abu Selah:

            That’s less shocking to me than “oh, yes, we Eritreans and Ethiopians are one people.” I mean the entire Eritrean narrative from the time Longrigg and Tresvaskis to Ibrahaim Sultan’s testimony at the UN, to Haraka’s literature, to turning-brown leaflets of ELF, EPLF, ELF-PLF, PFDJ and every alphabet soup that ever wrote anything about the subject was: Eritrea and Ethiopia are two distinct entities. But one possibly-dementia-suffering guy says it and people, instead of saying, ‘he misspoke’ just change their entire worldview?

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay & SGJ,

            I like the phrase coined by Sir Amde “the parrot league”. The parrot league will never question the wisdom of their master. They are conditioned and brainwashed to admire him as in “Nihna Nisu, Nisu Nihna.” Tomorrow he will tell them PFDJ and TPLF are not enemies, viola and will sing the same song. We live to witness history.

    • iSem

      Gheteb:
      Oh my brilliance , oh my genius ,oh my parrot!!!
      And when did G-17 start believing in the Eritrean sovereignty?
      And the TPLF that you have introduced to Eritrea, the TPLF that humiliated you so much that you took it on the Eritrean people, the TPLF who groomed PMD also was the first one to unequivocally believe in the Eritrean self-determination.
      So instead of writing this none sense, write some thing original, something that springs from your heart and brain and if both are functioning properly at this time since the border is safe, since the game is over for TPLF they should be coercing you write about the imprisoned, the disappeared and when you do that, it is a well deserving repose from the toil and moil of PFDJ apologist

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam isem
        The point is not about who said what first or who said what 2nd.what gheteb trying to show is the recent peace deal between eri and ethio didn’t compromise the sovereignty of eritrea and brought two known ethiopians as an example. And if u want to know the real views of ethiopians about eri read Saay7 reply to gheteb. U have to know the mind set of every community is dianamic. G

        • iSem

          Hi TA:
          And the point is not about chronology, rather it is whatever they say proves nothing, zero, sifir, nada, baddo too quote Gheteb’s cuz Sal, who quotes his high school teacher. Because like TPLF they can turn enemy of Eri soverignty on a dime
          That is the point

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam isem
            agree the point is not about G chronology, it is not about tplf either.it is about if the current peace agreement compromise eri sovereignty or not.

          • iSem

            TA:

            Yes, it is not about TPLF, but am just providing analogy in the same manner TPLF said and supported Eritrea sovereignty but later they insidiously fought against it, to weaken it, is that not what u guys believe, follow the logic?

            So regardless or as ur bro Gheteb says irregardless what these big wigs are saying, it is not evidence that Eri is not for sale. Du u trust ur leader IA or the Ethiopians??

            IA said the following:

            we have been separated since referendum

            we are one people, anyone who thinks otherwise is silly

            Abiye on every thing we do, u are our leader, am not saying in half measure and I have bein telling him this repeatedly

            Ur best argument, is to say IA missspoke because he wanted the peace so badly., the rest makes u look silly

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam isem
            My argument is even if PIA will sell eri as g u said it ,ethiopians will not jump in to buying it as u think it is.and am ethiopian.

          • iSem

            Selam TA:
            Exactly, but IA is selling it out. That is what matters whtere they accept or say “aftehala” is not the issue, the issue IA has disrespected and was irresponsible. So it was not about them, it is about IA’ s behavior

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam isem
            So why u gneed who said 1st, who said 2nd thing ?

          • iSem

            TA:
            messages, comments have central theme and the cetral then is that before it was fashionable TPLF believed in Eri sovereignty but it did not matter, before the now member of G7 that Gheteb is citing as good example, so whether they say it or not Gheteb can quote them until he turns blue,it is irrelevant. So it is not about chronology,it is about precedence, two different stories,Gheteb thinks we are stupid, we are telling u guys IA sold u and u do nto even know it,it does not mean he can succeed,
            THE POINT IS IA’s BEHAVIOR AND INTENTION!!
            Does his behavior and words, does not disturb u?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam isem
            Honestly i took PIA words as a start of reconciliation. It doesn’t disturb me at all. Plus Ethio is 100 m people/s and bigger in economy so it gave me another confidence not to be disturbed. As long as she is at peace with herself i don’t see much problem.

          • Selam iSem,

            You are worried about these words of the scorpion, while we are scared and terrified of the sinister plan he might have in mind for ethiopia, when he says what he says.

            Look, these words come from the mouth of the same person who hated and fought ethiopia for fifty years, to annihilate her from the face of the world. If we believe that dia has only plan A (defeating tplf), and no plan B (undermining ethiopia from within), we may be in for a shocking surprise at the end. It will be equivalent to saying, dia joined the elf circa 1967, because he had a plan to defeat tplf in 2018, otherwise, half a century of madness and foolishness. No, dia is not that fool. Ethiopians should worry much more than eritreans.

    • guest

      Selamat
      you must be so desperate that you have to fish in a muddy and toxic pond.

  • saay7

    Now Inc:

    But I also said Elias is the most እሺ ጎይታይ Isaiaist. He believes that the most important in any “revolution” (he fancies himself a revolution and PFDJ a disciplined revolutionary movement) is obeying the orders of leadership. So if IA says that Weyane are our allies and have always been, he will switch faster than a router.

    saay

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    Let me go a hard core nerd on you. The fertilized egg, six days after it gets implanted on the uterus, it is 16 cells in total clamped together looking like a football with fluid in it—Blastocyst it is called. Then, the part or the side of the ball that is attached to the uterus, becomes the body and the rest is the yolk which is the placenta which nourishes the body through out pregnancy and later gets discarded.

    You are probably wondering, why I am telling this. Well, here is the fun stuff: Right on the sixth day of implantation, the part of the ball that becomes the body gets elongated and starts to fold onto itself on both end. The upper end which ultimately becomes head, starts to have four distinct swellings and each of them create a slit or a hole in them. In medical terms this four distinct slits are called arches as in first arch, second arch, third arch and forth arch. In this particular stage where the four arches appear, humans, fish, reptiles and amphibians look exactly the same! That is the extraordinary thing about it. Of course, if we are identical [humans, fish, reptiles and amphibians] between six and eight days after implantation, how does the distinction in body form begin later on? Interesting question.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Dr. Paulos,

      Hahaha. The envelope and the letter!

      Nature used to be an excellent resource manager until Adam ate The Apple and started “thinking” to the ruin of all.

      Most envelopes look the same from outside: they are the same size, they have sender and receiver labels, and a stamp. Even the the real container (paper) of the actual content usually look the same.

      However, one content (DNA) in those containers could be different from others in billions of ways.

      This similarity opens for an interesting discussion about whether it supports theory of evolution (common ancestor) or creationism (one creator).

      • Paulos

        Selam Fantination,

        That is very smart. Many thanks for shedding light on it. The envelope and letters in it is very persuasive argument including the “Blind Watch Maker” as well.

        Not sure if you’ve heard of Stephen Jay Gould who was Harvard Professor of Paleontology and he was known among other things when he coined the term, “Punctuated Equilibrium” where he wrestled with the question why it took almost 3 billion years [The first time when unicellular organisms appeared] for the multicellular organisms to appear about 500 million years ago during the Pre-Cambrian period?

        He reasoned that, there was a sort of hiatus for billions of years till evolution wakes up from slumber if you will. And you can only imagine how that kind of seemingly lame justification gives more ammunition to Creationists.

  • Paulos

    Guest,

    If you want your dream to come true, make sure you don’t wake up and avoid ⏰.

  • AMAN

    I Shalom AND Greetings for sure
    AND then proceed.
    >
    Hello residents
    of Awote site.
    >
    Is this home site in any way related to
    Mad site ( Madotes)………because there
    there were some funny acting kids who
    thought I was funny acting guy. Even the
    ones at this site thought I was acting and
    talking strange only to find themselves at
    the heart ( midst ) of it.
    Was everybody having difficulty of understanding
    or were they just being hard headed about what
    was going on of our National politics, National
    sovereignity & Nation ?
    >
    There was no sense of urgency that meets the
    challenge at all !
    I

  • Abi

    Hi Guest
    So you calling the Mighty Amharas ” sub- species “?
    Really? You must be a genius!

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    Oh really? I didn’t know that. He certainly has a serious problem. He is so obssessed with the freaking Weyanes! Heaven only knows if he is a monotone in person as well.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam abi
    U know an artist by the name desalagn hailu? Pls listen to his today speech about cadre. U will know who u guys r.
    U guys can find it at andafta youtube.

  • Guest

    Hi Abi
    expanding yourgene pool, expanding your geographic horizon, and expanding you lingual skill is always healthy and beneficial. Those who are isolated in Bale Mountain are doomed extinction !

  • Peace!

    Hi all,

    Is it 03 ወረ ሚሕየድን ሸንገብ, ሀይለ መንቀርዮስ, ጀላለዲን are heading to, or already in, Asmara for meeting about reform.

    Peace!

    • Paulos

      ሰላም ዓቢ ሰብ,

      ባናና እንዳ ባዶ ሰለስተ ረጊጽካ ሸታሕታሕ ኢልካ ግን ኣጆኻ ሒዘካ’ለኹ ኣነ ሓውኻ!

      • Peace!

        ፖውለሳይ,

        ኣጆኻ ዝሐወይ ንሕና ኣብዚ ናይ ዝለፍለፍና ኣይኮነን ኣብ ውሽጢ ዓዲ ዘሎ ሕዝብና ዘዋጸጾኦ ኣጸቢቑ እዩ ዝፈልጥ እሱ ዝበሎ ክኸውን ጸኒሑ ኣሱ ዝበሎ እዩ ካኣ ዝኸውን.

        ኣነውን ኣጥቢቐየ ሒዘካ ዘለኹ 🙂

        Peace!

    • Blink

      Dear peace
      If it is true it means that we are in a different state of discussion about Eritrea. Don’t forget Mehdin Shengeb is just a copy of Issaias .lol , pls peace don’t even try to shock the wall.

      • Peace!

        Blink,

        What we should be doing is making sure we don’t look confused as usual when opportunity arrives:

        1 Free all political prisoners
        2 Implement constitution
        3 Demobilize our youth
        4 Limit National Service
        5….you can add more

        Peace!

        • Blink

          Dear peace
          I agree , that we must not be confused . I just wanted to add
          One important thing and that is reconciliation must come somewhere in between 1&2 , you know so many people are with wounded heart . I am sure you agree and know that beforehand.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I hear this hoopla that PMAA is coming to the USA. Are you, the Ethiopians going to show up and greet your leader? If you had the chance to ask one question and give
    one advice to PMAA, what would be? If I get the chance to ask, I would have asked….
    ….Is it possible to build a political system in a country of 100 million people with love, forgiveness and inclusion without the force that orders order?
    …..Advice; I really like how PMAA is handling the exiled government of Ethiopia who are in Mekele. Since you don’t believe in arresting people and holding them accountable, what you are doing the best way to handle the problem. Do what you doing and sooner or letter the Mekele thugs will be divided among each other and will give in to your change.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Nitricc.
      If all Ethiopians understood what PM is upto then the tigrians themselves put the woyane tplf leaders, murderers, corrupts, hatemongers in prison. And the tigrians dont take arm to invade Ethiopia to continue what tplf started in Ethiopia. Besides Tigrians did not ask tplf to spoon feed them with corrupted system and money. After all they are believers.

  • Blink

    Dear readers
    The other choice at our disposal, I mean the choice the ordinary people in the opposition have is simple .
    1. Accept the peace and crack PFDJ from inside as the flow of people will be open.
    2. Oppose the peace process and stay in the minority’s view of I or war
    3. Sustain the evil Opposition leadership to divide Eritrea across ethnic lines and put Eritrea just as Libya, Syria , Yemen and Somalia
    4. Be a hateful loser and try to higher weyane activists to divide the youth.

    All these in the opposition leadership are equally dictators the difference is they don’t have power to arrest .. if they get the chance they will even try to get their vengeance.

    So what choice do the youth have? For me there is one choice and that is to work with the Eritreans inside Eritrea and leave the religious, Ethnic and other horrible people to rotte alone by supporting the good once .

    • Nitricc

      Hi Blink; the only choice is opestion one; ” 1. Accept the peace and crack PFDJ from inside as the flow of people will be open.” Although I believe you will see huge change in Eritrean government activity and from here on, Eritrea will change for the better and for good!

      • Blink

        Dear Nitricc
        True that’s the only choice we have if we truly care about Eritreans and Eritrea. I watched NEAMIN ZELEKE speech he gave to Eritreans (PFDJ) in America. I think we are moving to a future that some Eritrean opposition can never ever have a future. If you are reading the wind without the people who are thinking to oppose the peace process by protesting in Geneva , I think we will be in a good time to see change in Eritrea. I mean that will be the end of weyane activists who are being called to fit in our politics.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Blink; i just read the memo that was sent to Eritrean embassy to Addis. “ህዉሓት/ ሃምሌ 21እና 22 ለሚያካሂዱት ሰልፍ የኤርትራ ቴሌቭዢን ሰልፋን በቀጥታ (Live) እንዲያስተላልፍላቸው ጠይቀዋል።”
          What do you think lol. i could have post the entire memo but the Moda won’t like it.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. The truth of the matter is that the opposition simply did not wish for peace,; it was not desired and was seen as extraneous. The ONLY thing that they have always desired is the complete removal of the PIA/PFDJ regime, so that another unbeknownst political group can usurp power. Before they were counting on the TPLF to aid and abet them. Game changed!

  • Paulos

    Selam Kbur Haw Ismail, Monsieur Hailat, Abraham, Desbele, Hameed, Abinism, and all,

    I remember reading Professor B. Habteselassie’s volume II book, a sort of political autobiography where he dedicated a whole chapter describing the characters of the main personalities of the Front including Isaias’ and what he said in it made an impression in me for we have known the man through a bird’s eye view so to speak.

    The author says, he first met Isaias in 1974 in Zagir [Kbur Haw Ismail, please correct me if I got the year wrong] as he made his way to field from the US through Khartoum. And he was there to reconcile the then flaring up tension between the two Fronts. He describes Isaias as ሊላይ as in slender with a comforting charm and when they both went in to a small room to have a talk, Isaias provided a dried hide for the guest to sit on out of respect and courtesy*.

    The author went on to say, he was completely taken by the irresistible charm Isaias exuded**. And of course, forty and some changes years later, the author woke to the grim reality that, there was a sadistic persona beneath the mask where Isaias stands tall amongst the mythical Sirens in Homeric saga. The hard to second guess did not end with the author but found company in Abiye and Hailemariam as well.

    *In his speech at the Millennium hall, the young PM said that, Isaias assured him, if visiting Ethiopians can not find hotels, he will leave his adobe for the guests.

    **If any of you has taken “Abnormal Psychology” or “Forensic Psychology” in college, the classic description of psychopaths is that, when the psychopath is interrogated by the authorities in the room, the authorities come out of the room convinced that, they got the wrong person accused of the crime. That is how incredibly charming the psychopaths are and Isaias ain’t an exception.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Paulos.
      It is a very confusing analysis. What you are telling us is that Eritreans were led from 1974 until now by a psychopath. This is not only an insult to PIA but the Eritrean people led by PIA through out these difficult times. At least you could have acknowledged him for his determination not bend down for the west mafia like sanction, demonizing , isolation, you name it.

      Some times just for the sake of exaggeration we expose our weakness. The more the oppositions or PIA haters exaggerate the who PIA is or what he hasdone, the more they tell us they dont exist. In a country where no one opose you then ever few supporters of PIA makes him the popular president. But the fact on the ground shows that PIA has a broad supporter. A practical example is it is only Eritrea which has the majority of supporters of the very government they run away from.

      Is using Isayas the only excuse for not engaging Eritrea to be a better place to live in according its huge natural resources?
      How much is the contribution of leaving Eritrea for a better life to the dissatisfaction of the majority? How much is the contribution of the so called oppositions sit abroad, live a comfortable life and write a list of their wish what others do or sacrifice for the betterment of Eritrea.

      This is what i have learnt from Awate.forum:
      Dont ask what your country does for you but ask others to sacrifice for your country.

      PS, I remember how Awate forum was exploding til the network leading to awate jammed and stuck by the excitement of Forto incident. The motive was clear. To enjoy others sacrifice. And then the excitement and exaggeration of one community funded Islam school incident. The two are solid proofs that it is not Isaias dragging the country but ግፋ በለው diaspora opposition who do the dragging writing their list of wishes. Their list of wishes need a huge engagment in Eritra if not sacrifice. They know that but they want some ‘tegadalay’ or fool Ethiopians do the work. It has not happen in 27 years, we will wait and see if development could be made by remote controll.

      • Paulos

        Selam Mitiku [Sounds Japanese],

        Just curious, why do you spell it as “Hei” when it should be “Hey.”

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei Paulos.
          It is how we say Hi or Hello in Norwegian. But if you pronounce it like the English Hi then you are calling some one shark with out your intention.

          • Paulos

            Selam Mitiku,

            Please excuse my ignorance. I apologize. And thank you for the lesson.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, Paulos.
            Norwegian is easy language to learn. Try it. I can send you some materials if you want. This has nothing to do with one two countries one people. I am just kidding it has everything to do with it 🙂

  • Peace!

    Hi all,

    The Oppositions hypocrisy: the sky is the limit. If agreeing to a long term port lease with Ethiopia is considered a sale of sovereign Eritrea, where were they when Ghedli was openly denounced in the opposition camp, where were they when Oppositions conspired with TPLF to install puppet government, where were they when YG and his cronies apologizing for Haileselassie for years, where were they when Tesfatsion declared greater Tigray? Did they scream in social media outrageously as much they are doing now with Adi sheituwa, did they call for demonstration for unity among Ertireans and denounce bigotery. Y’germena Alo

    Peace!

    • FishMilk

      Hi Peace! You are 1000% spot on! They have no shame!

      • Aligaz G

        Selam FishMilk,

        There is nobody holier than the cyberjegna and Peace is irrelevant unless they own it. Really who cares if a sudden outbreak of conflict kills thousands for political gain. And btw all agreements must be cleared first by them from now on because PIA’s revolutionary mandate has expired. You see Issayas was only good for liberation now he is just an out of control megalomaniac who is showing signs of early onset dementia so take away his pen asap before he signs peace treaties with Djibouti next. Let us find a nursing home for him because Eritrea doesn’t need Peace. Peace is for chumps and amhara patsies.

        • FishMilk

          Hi Aligaz G. Maybe my fear is unjustified, but I am afraid that a quick and sudden overthrow of the PIA/PFDJ regime could come at great risk. I don’t think that will happen anyways, but I could of course be wrong. I would prefer that change commences with the current regime, in process gradually weakening its structure to the poinr that it is amenable to an overhaul.

          • Aligaz G

            Dear FishMilk,

            I am afraid your fears are justified. You see there seems to be a great unraveling underway but hopefully PIA is not yet senile. Because if you remember by 1974 the Emperor became unable to maintain his juggling act mainly because of old age. He then exacerbated this perilous state by his unwillingness to reform or move towards a constitutional monarchy subsequent to which the whole region descended into full scale conflict and revolution. After countless dead we then woken up to an Eritrea run by Castrolight, a South Sudan riven by tribal petro rivalries, a lawless and divided Somalia and a kililistanized Ethiopia. And now after all this I would hate to see where a new further unraveling takes the region. In fact I hate to be apocalyptic and all and it may even appear to be reactionary but I am afraid unless PIA reasons and accommodates with the mainstream Eritrean opposition the whole region is once again poised to explode. Ethiopia is once again being dragged into domestic Eritrean affairs as if adventures in Somalia and South Sudan were not enough. Once again the abyss beckons.

          • Amde

            Selam Aligaz G.

            I follow and understand your arguments. But are there really grounds to be so pessimistic?

            I guess the fear is PFDJ is too brittle to survive as an institution post IA, and there isn’t a coherent organized Eritrean opposition alternative that can take over.

            Is that a correct articulation of your concern?

            Amde

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Amde,

            The only institution in Eritrea is PIA. I believe there is a concerted pressure on him to democratize and open up at this juncture and the sooner he starts dealing constructively with the opposition the better. Asmara needs functional institutions desperately to handle diversity and stabilize the nation. Now is the time for nation building there are too many vultures swooping over our region and dont forget PMAA’s coalition is brittle Trump and MBS. The agreements signed may not be worth much ultimately. Too many spoilers. Worst case scenario – the same scavengers who dismembered Iraq Libya Syria and Yemen are headed our way untold thousands die millions displaced ground zero reduced to rubble. Best case scenario – holier than thou Asmarinos and Kerenites hold their noses as we turn cartwheels in the sand in Massawa simply because we are not fascists from Italy and take our tourist money and when it runs out send us back to Addis. God help us all

          • Amde

            Selam Aligaz G,

            Thanks for the perfectly rational response. You do have a way with words.

            This place has become a bit weird lately. I get what they are saying – that IA has a track record of being untrustworthy and that this “deal” in the end will prove to just be a self serving one for himself. But, to paraphrase Rumsfeld, one makes peace with the enemy one has, not with the enemy one wishes to have. Plus somebody else is putting their money on the table behind it, so I doubt it is as flimsy as they think it is. In the end, it may not end the IA regime, but it will at least get a lot of people back with their families, and provide justice activists with the ammunition to demand changes on the governance front.

            Had to laugh at your “holier than thou Asmarinos and Kerenites” line – but some of them will probably take fascists over what they label “Amhara Extremists”.

            Amde

            PS.. had family we used to call “Gash Aligaz” if that is your real name. You reminded me of him. Only one place where Aligaz and Abegaz come from haha…

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gash Amde,

            I cannot doubt your genuine pragmatism with seemingly impregnable realities as back drop. Within this, you are counting on dispersed fruits in a thick of sharp thorns that could some how could be picked. But in my case, how would allay my concern when the proposed peace will come with bonanza of dollars and euros that will enable the monster to finance more spies, build more dungeon (Beyan are you there), hunt opposition through myriad embassy dens under the cover of sovereignty etc. Shouldn’t I cry wolf, sir?

          • Amde

            Selam Gash IsmailAA,

            I feel like I cannot say anything that will not end up offending you and many well meaning people. You know I have been saying this Eritrea issue is too complicated an issue for Abiy to burden himself so early in his administration. Heck that is even the basis of my silly bet with Saay.

            I agree, IA would probably not be so giddy about this deal if there was not something he really likes within it. And you are justified in crying wolf.

            Still, the statement of “make peace with the people not with the dictator” sounds good, but it is an impossible suggestion if the goal is to end the war situation at this point in time. Governments make deals with governments. The assumption is the governments represent the interests of the elites and hopefully the people of a country. Unfortunately that is how it works

            The options are really a) wait for an acceptable partner, b) engineer an acceptable partner, or c) deal with the current party (hopefully under optimum circumstances). Abiy seems to have settled for (c) although I doubt if the circumstances are optimum.

            Otherwise, trying to “engineer” a more acceptable partner for signing a deal sounds really close to the meddling into the internal affairs of another country.

            In any case, I actually see a huge opening for the justice movement with this peace deal.

            Isayyas himself is not immortal. (as far as we know). So he might have a few more years, but that is it.

            And in the meantime (hopefully), there are no more excuses for continuing the indefinite conscription. Which – let’s be honest – is what was really hurting Eritrea. Countries with dictators are a dime a dozen, but ones that were destroying their demographic future are really really rare. All of the demobilized will be potential forces for the justice movement.

            Plus the armies of closet Isayyas opponents who have been biting their tongues out of sense of national duty will also likely join the justice movement.

            Obviously not all of them – but I doubt if 2/3 is an unreasonable expectation.

            That is how I see it. Instead of opposing this peace, it is better to see it as a huge opportunity, and insist on it being implemented ASAP.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Amde,

            Thanks, generous in alloting time as usual to respond to issue people like me raise. As you might have noted in my rejoinder to our dear brother Horizon yesterday, the issue (read: complaint) is not about trying to persuade Dr. Abij and the government he represents to stop what national interest and needs of the moment had impelled them to do. One cannot argue that governments desist from dealing with functioning governments under internationally sanctioned norms and procedures pertaining to sovereignty, for instance.

            The crux of the matter is whether national interest would chain them to deal with a monster they had condemned not long ago as agent of destruction and instability in the region and at home and conscientiously ignore justice and fairness for a people in duress. Should they not be obliged by sense of justice to balance what they consider lofty national interest with some role to assuage the anxieties of a neighboring people?

            Agreeing with you that, under the circumstances in Ethiopia and the current governance, your option (a) and (b) may not sound realistic, the question is whether or not option c, which arguably shaped Dr. Abij-EPRDF move toward peace with the monster, is totally bereft of space for having heart for the plight of the Eritrean people.

            Moreover, the predicament of the Eritrean people cannot be dwarfed to issues (as important and crucial they are) like the military conscription and prisoners. These can be imagined in conditions in which modicum of normalcy reigns. The problems we have are so profound that our Ethiopian brothers may not appreciate. We have national state matters like pending constitutional problems the regime has been ignoring in the last more than two decades. We have generations of refugee stranded in hellish camps for half a century, we have war ravaged economy and ruined infrastructure etc.

            Thus, our genuine fear is that Ethiopia’s current, and understandable needs, could be blessing to the regime and give it another decade or two down the road and keep the country hostage. Now, thus, dear Amde and millions of Amdes in Ethiopia, since neither you and us justice seeking Eritreans will have to settle for what existing governments, are the justice loving Ethiopians watch on diarmed and do nothing to play their role as civil society and grass roots?

          • saay7

            Ismail:

            Well, my brother. I think all questions to our Ethiopian brothers and sisters should begin with:

            (a) Did you read the case presented by the Commission of Inquiry on Eritrea (CoIE);
            (b) Do you believe the claims that the magnitude of the crimes committed against Eritreans amounts to “crimes against humanity”?
            (C) If so, do you also believe that that those responsible for it sit “at the highest level of government”?

            For the sake of Ethiopian interest, Abiy can invite Mengistu Hailemariam to Ethiopia. But it would be unseemly and obscene if he was hugging him and pouring compliments on him. This is what Ethiopia’s PM keeps on doing. It’s repulsive for the victims of the IA regime to observe this.

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Dear saay7,
            Would goodness need me try to match a matchless rights and justice advocate poor souls like myself are graced to have? The elite categories of Ethiopians who understand the questions you posed are left to competent, combative and fair-minded compatriots. Less equipped folk creature like me scribble feelings and emotions humble conscience store. May you be blessed.

          • FishMilk

            Hi saa7. Common man. Yes, most know that the PIA/PFDJ has been committing human rights violations since 1991. Given that said, PM Abiy was one of the co-founders of the Ethiopian Information Network Security Agency (INSA) under a TPLF led Ethiopian Government which also clearly had committed human rights violations since 1991. Just because a habitual hipocritic international body whose major legitimacy is its assumed impartiality had only singled out Eritrea, does not make the TPLF less criminal.

          • saay7

            FM:

            Yeah, and PM abiy used that fact to justify why his government was releasing people who were arrested by the State’s Anti-terrorism Proclamation. Google: “Ethiopia’s prime minister, Abiy Ahmed made a startling admission that government had sanctioned torture of its political prisoners, which he described as unconstitutional.”

            In must have been music to the ears of the victims and their families he said the EPRDF government that he was a part of had committed state terrorism.

            He said he was replacing “rule by law” with “rule of law.” And used that argument to make wholesale transformation of Ethiopia: to get rid of all the people who were the implementers of the “rule of law.”

            So that’s the difference. In Ethiopia the state terrorists were, and are being, removed from positions of power and the Prime Minister has begged the Ethiopian people to forgive them. In Eritrea, the engineer of the state terrorism is hailed as peace-maker and invited by, among others, you, do to lead the reform of Eritrea. Never mind turning the power to the people, you guys are too meek to even ask him to turn power to people within the ruling party whose hands are not as bloody as his.

            saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saaay7. Not only do many here refuse to embrace the Ethiopia-Eritrea Peace Agreement for they seem hellbent on destroying it. All in one go, you commend PM Abiy for his achievements and then castigate him for his cordial meetings with PIA. The political end justified the means! So what? It was clearly for the embitterment of both nations and their citizens.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash IsmaelAA,

            Well, let me flip the script and ask you what you would do if you were in Ethiopia’s shoes.

            Would you demand that issues of Eritrean refugee settlement be part of the package?

            Would you ask that the Eritrean constitution be implemented before signing the package?

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Gashe Amde,

            No sir, those matters are exclusively domestic issues with which no foreign government should meddle itself with. Sure, it can express justice and fairness opinion. Governments can, moreover, go as far as providing solidarity when quality of justice human rights in own country prescribe on national interest policy levels.

            Now, the point I was trying to make in our case is that the current peace moves between Ethiopia and Eritrea should not end in making Eritrean people’s already encumbered quest for having refugees back home and building constitutional institutions by enabling the regime. in real terms, if the Ethiopian government would have the political will, why can’t it balance its needs with the needs of the Eritrean people?

            I believe, under the conditions the regime has come to exist, the Ethiopians could have a lot of effective leverages than some of us may imagine. But, what is being witnessed is that Dr. Abij and his team seem to have submitted to the fact that only Isayas can deliver. This can be true in the short term. But who can guarantee the durability of peace that worsens the already bad conditions of the Eritrean people!.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sir Amde,

            I can’t add to what Ismailo and Saay have argued rightfully the plight of the Eritrean people visa-vis the so called peace agreement between “a legitimate” Ethiopian Government and the “illegitimate” Eritrean government, led by a cruel dictator. But I will ask you this: Would you have the same position if the nature of governments we have would have been the opposite (as in role reversal between the two governments)? Would you tell to the Ethiopian people, that is the way how governments deal with each other, and thus we have to accept the deals as is, and go from it? Remember the role reversal will imply between your position (the Ethiopians) and us in (the Eritrean opposition)? I like to have a sincere reply to this.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Amanuel,

            We (Ethiopians) did spend years getting upset with deals left and right made by EPRDF without “consultation” with the people. We felt for years EPRDF did not really believe in an entity called Ethiopia, and that whatever deals they made were for narrow partisan purposes. Case in point: there are thousands who believe that the TPLF bought nice friends in Khartoum by giving away vast land tracts from Amara region. At the end, this may be reopened. So I understand where you are coming from.

            What is a bit irritating is the attack on Abiy as an enabler of Eritrean tyranny and as new Eritrean dictator and what not. Did the emirs of Qatar, or the princes of the Emirates get these characterization, when objectively they were providing financial support to IA for decades? I don’t think so.

            First of all, no one has seen “the deal”. I keep asking what the worst case interpretation of “Ethiopia gets Assab” means to warrant a freakout. I don’t think I have received a satisfactory response to be honest.

            Secondly, the phrase “make peace with the people” is nice, but impractical and not actionable. I never thought we had a people-to-people problem. Deals and treaties are between formal entities.
            And honestly, I don’t know how an Ethio policy can be calibrated between the Eritrean people’s vs Eritrean regime’s interests. Whatever one says about TPLF, one can say they preferred to forsake a deal with the Eritrean regime in order to work with a post-PFDJ Eritrean leadership that would presumably be more in tune with the Eritrean people. The evidence for its success is iffy, and in any case, it turns out there was a real or implicit expiration date for such a policy and so here we are.

            Thirdly, personally I did not want this rapprochement to be made now – but as we see, events are driven by outside bodies. Wish it weren’t so, but it is pretty much a constant of our political history however much we tell ourselves about our self-sufficiency and sovereignty. So, plus ca change, plus la meme chose as the French say. For a number of reasons (of which most are invisible to us), this timing has been imposed on our region.

            So, here we are. The game is changed.

            Personally, I think the new game offers better opportunities for those seeking the development of a more just and more inclusive government in Eritrea. Abiy offers something more potent – expectation of a normal life – to Eritreans which I am sure PFDJ will have a hard time responding to.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Sir Amde The Fair*

            * gratuitous title designed to elicit open mindedness

            First of all, no one has seen “the deal”. I keep asking what the worst case interpretation of “Ethiopia gets Assab” means to warrant a freakout. I don’t think I have received a satisfactory response to be honest.

            You are right: you have asked this question of me and I didn’t give you an answer beyond “I ain’t endorsing no damn treaty before I sees it.” So, here’s the other reason:

            The indigenous people of Denakalia where Asab is located, the Afar, have done really badly under the PFDJ rule. Worse when the UAE showed up. And I am speculating they will do even worse with the part of Ethiopia that is obsessed with access to sea, people be damned.

            So, when you Ethiopians go to Asab, because you are lucky enough that there is only one stakeholder you have to convince, here’s an introduction to the residents (the indigenous residents, that is, although that doesn’t matter to many “globalists”): the Afar and how they have fared under the disastrous PFDJ.

            So, you know that the PFDJ can justify any violation of human rights by pointing to MDG, clean water, infant mortality, literacy, life expectancy and wells dug and dams built. But, when it comes to the Afar people, it can’t even claim that. What we have in Denkalia is:

            (1) Infant mortality rate per 1,000:

            Denkalia: 100
            Eritrea: 45
            Sub-Saharan Africa: 53

            2. Maternal Mortality Rate per 100,000
            Denkalia: 100
            Eritrea: 50.1
            Subsaharan Africa: 21.6

            (3) Life expectancy
            Denkalia: 45
            Eritrea: 64
            Sub Saharan Africa: 46

            (4) Literacy Rate:
            Denkalia: 17%
            Eritrea: 80%
            Sub Sahrana Africa: 70%

            In addition to the human rights violations Eritreans in general complain about, and the denial of social services, the Afar have also been subjected to collective punishment on the basis of their ethnicity including dispossession of their land. “The Commission also has reasonable grounds to believe that Eritrean officials have intentionally and severely deprived Eritrean Kunama and Afar of fundamental rights contrary to international law on ethnic grounds.

            There is more. The Afar land is extremely rich: “over six billion tonnes of potassium bearing salts suitable for the production of potash fertilizers.” In 2013, the Gov of Eritrea entered into a 50-50 deal with an Australian company to mine it. The degradation of the environment will yield nothing to the indigenous people: a massive transfer of wealth from the indigenous people to the coffers of PFDJ.

            Then, in 2015, the UAE appeared and it restricted their freedom of movement within their own land and sea. Because its presence in Asab is for entirely military purposes (in exchange for which the useless government of Eritrea is only getting subsidies on energy), it treats any movement within its restricted zone as Yemen Houthi infiltration. “In May 2017, a United Arab Emirates (UAE) helicopter reportedly attacked indigenous Afar fishermen inside Eritrea, killing one person instantly while injuring nine others.”

            So now comes Ethiopia with its own agenda that has nothing–NOTHING–to do with the concerns of the Afar people. Do you think this, a whole bunch of Ethiopias obsessed with creating an Ethiopian Navy, and using the port to transport their goods will care one bit about the needs of our people, specially when the party they are partnering with–the Isaias regime–has shown not an iota of care for them?

            saay

            Quoted material from the Afar Unity Congress which held a meeting in the UK in late June.

          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            It appears you were cut off.

            But I have to tell you, the Afar are probably not a good example of a community that could experience a negative consequence because of this “deal” In fact, I would say the Afar would welcome an Ethiopian presence in Assab because that would mean the start of a stitching up between the Red Sea Afar and Afar State. To my knowledge, there is armed insurrection to split Dankalia and join up with the Ethiopian Afar State. I don’t see Afars clamoring to separate Afar State and join if to Eritrea.

            Their other lament has been that they were forced to be second fiddle in Ethiopia to the Somali due to the Somali Issa sway from Dire Dawa to Djibouti. Djibouti’s monopolistic port position has meant they are often sidelined.

            The Dash for the Potash Cash could be bad for them, but I think if they play their cards right it could also do wonders. Most of the potash is within Ethiopia and I really think it is likely that a deal on a port between Assab and Massawa may have been reached that would be primarily for the Potash export from both. It would make things for investors a lot simpler if one commercial entity/investor can plan on a long term mining contract over territory that transcends the border and mines as one field, and exports through one dedicated port. A common company owned by Ethio and Eri govs, plus UAE for putting in money to build the port, and a long term 30.. 50 ..years? concession to a mining company to dig it out. That way,።Eri is still getting paid even if its portion of potash runs out. Since the Eri portion is closest to the sea I imagine that will be mined first.

            Anyhoo.. I think your point is that opaque deals usually end up with bad/terrible consequences when stakeholders are not involved. I agree with you on that. And you say the track record so far for PFDJ is bad. Can’t argue there either. I just think the end of war offers opportunities for better outcomes on the normalcy and democracy front. I admit it is more blind trust in the logic of peace and commerce on my end.

            But the Abiy bashing is unwarranted and rather over the top. I think his performance today in DC reinforces for me that he is a man that values humility, faith, tradition and repairing rifts. The Isayyas hugging may be over the top, but would you not say it was worth it if let’s say a year from now he facilitates dialog between IA and the Eri opposition or exile community? I think a fair reading of his track record in Ethiopia, and the obvious rapport he has established with IA has already established him as the indispensable middle to effect such a positive change. Think about it – oh prince-in-waiting :-). And I mean that only half in jest.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selamat Amde:

            I probably was cut off, but that should teach me a lesson to economize.

            So, on the Afar, the only organized group that speaks on their behalf is RSADO and they already made their position known: we don’t trust Isaias Afwerki and whoever makes a deal with him is naieve.

            I don’t think people are bashing Abiy. It is like when your significant other tells you, “it is not that I don’t trust you; it is that I don’t trust her!”

            There is no history of IA dialoguing with any opposition–ever. It is hard to dialogue with people you don’t acknowledge exist. He just doesn’t have good judgement about anything, and his approach to the opposition is typical of his tendencies. He can’t even dialogue with members of his own party that he has frozen. The softest landing for Eritrea is for him to tender his resignation. He can give a long speech on how he has triumphed at everything, but then he just has to go.

            I remain a fan of Abiy and his creative approach to problem solving. Ethiopia’s Orthodox Church has now two patriarchs: the incumbent and the one Weyane chased off. Now that is creative problem-solving. His partner-in-peace has ever creative ways to create a problem or compound it. Notice that since he returned from Addis Abeba, he has done nothing to change the domestic situation. Other than fluff designed to keep the busybodies at bay.

            And please stop with the Prince-in-waiting stuff. I am not a people person and I hate kissing any babies which are not mine.

            saay

          • Selam Amde,

            Peace deal between AA and IA does not mean a thousand years of peace coming to the horn. If we take into account just ethiopia and eritrea, things will continue to foment until everything reach their natural equilibrium. Freedom and equality of the components will be the measure, and will play the major role. Those who do not have them will fight to achieve them. It is true for ethiopian somalis, it is true for the afar people, and any people who have been made second class citizens in their ancestral lands. That is why I believe that ethnic federalism is a necessary evil for ethiopia.

          • Haile Zeru

            Thank you very much SAAY.

            I am neither Kunama nor Afar, but glad to hear the truth.

            You put it in language accessible to the brainwashed, diehards, Issayas infatuated fans like Gheteb and Semere T.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi SAAY,

            The “freakout” is due to the fact that all the important issues are being decided without the diret input of the people that are impacted. They are not consulted directly, and there is no parlamentarian to air their case. There is no parlament. Wouldn’t Amde “freakout” in situation like this?

          • saay7

            Selam Hailu:

            Amde doesn’t freak out. He has achieved, Fanintenss: a zen-like inner peace, now that he is የመንግስት ደጋፊ :: To those of us who think a secret marriage between EPLF-PFDJ and TPLF (1981-97) led to the nastiest divorces that was mostly paid by Eritreans (1998-2018), and that the lesson is “be always suspicious of PFDJ elopements”, he says “ኣላህ ያውቃል: ሰው ይጨነቃል”.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile Zeru,

            Were in support or agree to the boarder ruling agreement Eritrea and Ethiopia signed?

            If yes, going further, were you calling for the ruling to get implemented without impacting the people lives in the boarder?

            If yes, then who do you think you had in mind representing the Eritreans side other than the government of the day?

            Please if possible respond?

            I am not endorsing IA actions or in action. I was calling for Ethiopia to implement the ruling and my understanding was with whoever government of the day, which happened at the time the IA government. I assumed everyone who had that position was in agreement and now I am actually “freak

            Berhe

          • Haile Zeru

            Dear Berhe Y,

            Please read SAAY post in response to Amde. My response is to that specific one.
            Unbecoming of you to mix the border ruling with what SAAY said on the post I responded to. Sorry to be polemic on this one. Usually I do not like to engage in a negative way with resonable individual like you

            If you did not hear what the opposition said, I think it is your problem not the opposition’s.
            I heard Weyane cadres complaining many times that even the oppositions that were/are being helped by them(Weyane) have rejected their (Weyane’s) stand on the boarder.
            But they ( the opposition) did not put it a front and center issue. That is understandable because the plight of the Eritrean people was/is more important than a peace of land. I hope you do not want me to list the misery of the past 20 years that would override as a burning issue for the Eritrean people.
            And please look at it from the stand of Weyane which was not a straight yes/no but simply let us talk to iron few issues of contention so that we will proceed to demarcate.

            Is the border demarcated now? If PFDJ cares about the people why could not do this 20 years ago?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            Well said and I agree completely. I personally thing, these development is an advantage to the struggle against the regime rather than an obstacle.

            I don’t know why people are surprised by what Isayas did or what Isayas said. He told us, there will not be any election in 39 or 40 years. He told us, there will not be any political party hashewye (some sort of game) in 1991, which the ERITREAN constitution commission obliged and drafted a constitution which is only fit for a single party (as in communist China). That’s not enough, after shelving it for 18 years, he told us he is going to setup a commission and draft new constitution (3 years ago) nothing so far. He disappeared people left and right, including members of the National Assembly who are suppose to have immunity even if they did anything (which in this case wrote open letter when he refused to convene regular meeting (6 months past due). We don’t know where to start or where to end counting the dismay and contempt he has for the people and the country. For the past 27 years, he has not consulted anything with the people except he does what he wants.

            Who did he consulted when he leased Assabvto the UAE?

            There are only three awatista who I would consider to get pissed off by these developments.
            Abi: he wanted Ethiopia independence from Eritrea and build a wall.
            Sara: agreed and made a deal with Abi to build that wall.
            Blink: he wanted any link between the two habesha people broke for ever.

            Did Ethiopia under Melles or HM care for the well being of the Sudanese people when they made deal with Albeshir, charged by the ICC and wanted? So does a lot of other African countries. These does not make it right but to show it’s just the way things are done and Abiy government is no different.

            I understand the shock we all feel with the recent band fast changes but if anything this secure is the security and sovereignty of Eritrea the country. Eritrea future has never been secure as it is today and thank you that to the PMAA.

            I wish I can find and read again awate ( may be saay can help) the pencil article written a while ago, how Eritrean and Ethiopian future relationship would like it to be and compare it to today’s development.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            “I wish I can find and read again awate ( may be saay can help) the pencil article written a while ago, how Eritrean and Ethiopian future relationship would like it to be and compare it to today’s development.”

            What do you think of a US/Canada as a model. There is the population gap. There is the cultural similarity along the border. And how Canadian economy is intertwined with US.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            There is nothing close and dear to me, as to see Eritrea and Ethiopia relationship to emulate that of US and Canada. There is so much similarity in terms of population size, close culture and people, common language or close to it and past history.

            The trick though I think, the US does not have physical ownership of most Canadian businesses and resources, but they almost own most of it.

            For example the oil sands, most if not all of it is shipped to the US by mostly American owned share holders company who appear to be owned by Canadians.

            So why should the US go to war with Canada so that to place its flag on the land where it already benefitted the most.

            I think Ethiopia and Eritrea should follow similar model where the two countries business is all intertwined and have two separate countries.

            And Eritrea should have similar relation ship with Sudan in the eastern part as the relation ship is equally intertwined, and due two our relative small population and exiled people in the west, Eritrea should be able to benefit the most.

            And I hope IA does not leave bad blood with the Yemeni people, as they are our third and important neighbours and relatives.

            How simple it can get to lead a country like Eritrea? IA if he sleeps 23 hours a day, the country would run by itself.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            I think that the usa and canada do not have conflict of interest that may bring them on a head-on collision. Economically, politically, socially and militarily, they are always on the same side of the divide. They have no reason for any sort of conflict. Even now, when trump started a trade war with the eu and china, canada was mentioned only from the sideline.

            On the contrary, between ethiopia and eritrea, it has never been the same, pre or post independence. All through out their history they found themselves in the opposite camp, serving different interests, despite what we call similarity and all the rest. That is why ethiopians and eritreans should throw away through the window the myth of one people two countries, because the majority of eritreans, and ethiopians too, freak-out whenever they hear it. The special relation nonsense and many other things, should be forgotten as well. It will bring the 1991-97 situation that ended in a devastating war.

            The solution is to create a relationship similar to any other countries of the region, each one protecting its national interest. In addition, remember, 50% of eritreans were not part of the last fanfare we saw in addis and asmara. About the opposition, they did nothing over the last two decades, so that they could be part of the equation at this crucial moment in their history.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sir Amde,

            Thank you for the well argued response. Our realities and our complains with our respective government is different. At least you Ethiopians have “People’s house” the “parliament”, you a constitution to fight with to your government, you have election cycles, however rudimentary Democratic it is. It means you have at least a process to fight for. If you have an elected government both in the Executive and legislative, it is a legitimate to make deals and treaties. On the other side, on the Eritrean side, we don’t have a parliament, we don’t have an elected leader, we don’t have a constitution to fight with. We don’t have anything a normal government can have, like the rule of law to run the affairs of a state. In short every policy and decisions of the state is determined by one man. In such situation, we are afraid that the omnipotent man who hate his subjects might not work to the interest of the nation and its people. Myself, I could live with grievances the Ethiopians you have, because there is a constitutional laws and rule of law to fight the government. In our Eritrea we don’t have those government institutions, structures, and laws to govern ourselves by elected representatives. So you have never been in the position we are. You can’t compare it to legitimize any agreement by the regime we have.

            Regards

          • Aligaz G

            Dear Amde and Saleh,

            Yes there are regions in where such names are common and some migrated even to Keren. Small world all related. Rumsfeld also liked to talk about known knowns and dead enders etc. But what is really bothering all of us are the unknown unknowns pretentious semantic gymnastics aside.

            BTW it was just announced that the Chief Engineer GERD was found dead this morning in Addis. Another shoe drops. PMAA really has his work cut out for him. Not enough time to take on the role of tyrant of Asmara.

            Cheers

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Aligaz G,

            QUOTE:

            ‘BTW it was just announced that the Chief Engineer GERD was found dead this morning in Addis.”

            Plan A for Sisi of Egypt. Well done Issu. A shower of rain begins with a drop.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Aligaz,
            I like your prophecy, “the same scavengers who dismembered Iraq Libya Syria and Yemen are headed our way untold thousands die millions displaced ground zero reduced to rubble. ” But I have one issue, I leave the Asmarino stuff to Asmarinos, but what have Kerenites done to you? I am serious and would like to know.
            Thank you in advance.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Aligaz G. I am just reading an article titled ‘Eritreans task president Afwerki to implement reforms following Ethiopia peace deal’ which is on africanews. It is great to see some people taking encouraging actions against the regime. Unfortunately, most here, seem obsessed with first bending, breaking and destroying the Ethio-Eri Peace agreement.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear FishMilk,
            You seem to take (correct me if I am wrong) peace as we watch it shaping up now is an end in its own right, and not a means to what peace is aspired to produce: internal liberation from bondage to one-man rule that can open way to coopeation with Ethiopia and other neighbors for mutual benefit. Ethio-Erit Peace, as you refer to it, is coming with inherent elements that could prepare it for its own undoing. The fact that it’s based on contingecies that had imposed marriage of convenience between the two actors carries malaise that could cause its implosion. Eact actor has own rationale and needs, besides the behind the curtain strings pullers and pushers, which may not fall in line with genuine interest of the peoples in the long run. The Eritrean end of the equation is quite vulnerable as long as the dictatorhip stays and translates all that peace could offer to its own advantage at the expense of the people.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Ismail AA. Peace is not an end in its own right but rather, as Ghandi rightly put it, ‘Peace is its own reward.’ Yes, you are correct in asserting that the Ethio-Eri Peace Agreement has its vulnerabilities and I also agree with you that we have to move away from the current dictatorship. However, my feelings are that the move away from the PIA/PFDJ dictatorship, should be a gradual process rather than a forced sudden act, for any form of democracy can only have a chance to survive and function in an environment where there is at least a minimum of stability for it cannot necessarily establish this stability itself. Although western democratic attitudes might not like it, my take is that in most African countries (based upon those that I have either lived or visited) to include Eritrea, that most people believe that a more-or-less secure livelihood and a modicum of justice are far more important than individual freedoms and unimpeachable democracy.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear FishMilk,

            We all agree that no sane minded person would prefer chaos to peace and calm. The difference between you, who entertain hope the regime would some how pragmatic attitudes invade the mind set of the man at the helm, and I, along with many, who long experience have taught us and lost any shred of hope in him. You won’t expect a man who has ignored his own constitution would would be persuaded by peace with neighbors to change.

            Now, my question to you is this: Do you in all conscience believe what you have been advocating could really happen?

          • FishMilk

            Hi Ismail AA. I have always been of the opinion that the border issue (TPLF’s illegal occupation of Badme), in a hostage bound manner, had served to keep a significant percentage of Eritreans living inside of Eritrea, neutral to the PIA/PFDJ regime. With the Ethiopian Government under PM Abiy having unconditionally accepted the EEBC final and binding decision, and with the Ethio-Eri Peace Agreement signed, regime neutralists are now be few if any, and citizens will no longer neither be patient in terms of demanding long overdue Government reform and accountability., nor lethargic in their willingness to publicity organize/assemble to force chance.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Peace,

      Now, what you should do is not about complaining against those toothless opposition that help us,,It is all about today and each Eritrean should ask what I can I do now and now that is all…About opposition it it is all past and gone already peace and it is all about today..Where were you when I was fighting? so, let us not just go beyond..

      KS,,

    • Guest

      Selamat
      Only PIA knows the term of the port agreement. It is the PIA’s silence and secrecy that gives raise to the justified concerns and wild speculations. When Amhara extremists celebrate the agreement, it is natural that Eritreans get suspicious.

      • Peace!

        Selamat,

        See! that is precisely the point: “dealing with Amhara Extremists” is what most people are objecting.

        Peace!

        • Guest

          Selamat

          If PIA explains us the term of the port agreement and assure us that Eritrean sovereignty is not compromised, Eritreans would not worry about the fantasy of Amhara extremists.

    • saay7

      Hi Peace!

      So let’s use the wise words of the man whose avatar you are using when he was asked why didn’t he consult with the Ethiopian people when he decided to prioritize implementation of the Algiers Agreement. Answer: I am only implementing what was already agreed to by the People’s representatives and besides were the people of Ethiopia consulted when Asab was given up?

      In the sale purchase lease of Asab, when were the people of Eritrea consulted?

      One self-appointed leader without consulting with the people or his party or his useless parliament is making deals and appointing viceroys who have taken an oath to place Ethiopian interest above all else.

      All the other trivia you listed, flag burning and Agazian, vastly insignificant in comparison to the verbal and written agreements, was vociferously denounced by the opposition.

      See you in Geneva on August 31. Slogan: ኤርትራውያን: ኣይንድመር: ኣይንጏድል

      Also, when you have time, read any literature written by Red Sea Afar Democratic Organization (Rsado), on the consequences of the last treaty we know nothing about that one man signed: UAE in Asab.

      saay

      • Peace!

        Hi Saay,

        I am not saying he is right rather simply exposing the utter hypocrisy of Oppositions. My main point is I do not think the Oppositions would’ve done differently given what we have seen in the last twenty-five years. Most oppositions do not object not just agreement, but even ምድማር. But “with whom” is what they are concern most. Have you watched the recent demonstration in Israel? I don’t think Geneva would be different 🙂

        Peace!

        • saay7

          Hey PEACE!

          Ah, so I see. Anta kulu ba kokslu alewo:)

          If you main point is that you do not the opposition would have done differently (a hypothesis, based on selective reading of selective interpretation of selective opposition), why focus on the hypothetical when the real is staring you right in the eyes? What do you think matters to Eritreans in Eritrea now? That there is nothing being talked about (much less acted on) regarding the unjustly imprisoned, the indefinite conscription, a land without laws, a culture of violence and impunity OR what some nutcase did with his flag when he was trying to provoke people?

          saay

          • Peace!

            Hi Saay,

            What hypothesis? Isn’t the last twenty-five years of ገልጠምጠም ሕልኽልኽ reason enough to make a reasonable conclusion? Or, how many more years do we have to read, learn and watch before we make up our mind?

            Peace!

          • saay7

            Selamat Peace:

            So if you are very unhappy about what Trump is doing, the thing to do is to talk about what a Democrat will do when he becomes president? There are people here, in this forum, who spend 90% of their time doing that. For some, it is 100%. You are not one of them, but it was jarring to hear it…but carry on.

            saay

          • Peace!

            Hi Saay,

            REALLY! I didn’t say I am happy; all I said the possible alternatives can even be much worse, what has to do with 90 or 100% people here and there. I have enormous respect for you, sir. Goodness!!!

            Peace!

          • saay7

            Peace!

            You missed my point with the Trump (in power) Democrat (out of power) metaphor. Please show me how the alternatives could be worse? I am genuinely curious. You mean there are Eritrean groups or individuals who would arrest more, exile more, disappear more, torture more than the Isaias regime? It would be a great service to all Eritreans if you tell us who they are.

            The respect is mutual, Peace.

            saay

          • Peace!

            Hi Saay,

            This is even worse: are we talking about DIA or making peace with Ethiopia?

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Our brother Peace is doing exactly like what you have said “accusing the democrats when all the bad thing that is happening in US is under the presidency of Trump the republican.” Zegerm Iyu.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Peace, you wrote, “If agreeing to a long term port lease with Ethiopia is considered a sale of sovereign Eritrea…”, where have you seen such an agreement, could you show us the document, and by whom was the agreement done, who gave that person the authority to sign those treaties?
      It is time to stop bashing at an almost non existent opposition, there is no need of scapegoating our problems. Eritrea belongs to all of us,and everyone of us who is against the absolute rule of DIA is also an opposition. Time to come together and save our nation, instead of finger pointing at each other.

      • Peace!

        Abraham,

        I agree, but the problem is what DIA is doing shared by most Oppositions. ወንጮ ተገልበጥካዮ ወጮ. I think YG, Dr. Berket, Dr Medhane, and many other Drs are Eritreans with constituents.

        Peace!

        • Abraham H.

          Dear Peace, what I’m saying in short is, let’s ignore the nuisance from a few individuals who claim to be opposition, instead focus our time, energy, skills, etc against the one with real power who is dealing on our behalf and might be endangering the very interest of our nation as we speak. If the peace process between the two countries is genuine and holds, then a major stumbling block will be removed for all Eritreans who oppose the DIA regime and they can exploit the situation to their advantage. But then focus should be where it should be.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Peace,

      Few days ago, you accuse the opposition
      “ኣብ ነንሕድሕደን ክማናጨታ ስለዘሕልፍኦ”
      which is true. Now, yourself as part of the over all opposition at large against the beast in our nation, you are doing the same “ምምንጫት” for those who have different view than yours. It does not help to the over all struggle. Just a reminder.

      • Peace!

        Emma,

        ኣብዚኣ መንጪትካ በለኒ ሕጂ ይቕሬታ ይሓትት don’t worry I will wait!

        Peace!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Peace,

          “Accusation”, as such blanket accusation is “ምምንጫት”. If there are individuals or organizations who consider renting a port is as selling the port, then direct your accusation to them. Don’t do it in a way that implies to all the opposition. You always lavishly use your accusation to the opposition at large. Think about it. I can expect from PFDJites, but not from an ardent fighter against the regime.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Peace.
      The opposition hypocrisy in short or the Opposition slogan:
      Dont ask what your country does for you but ask others to sacrifice for your country.

      Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what others can do for your country’

      • Peace!

        Hi MM,

        It may be both. Just don’t dare to express your disagreement or even share frustration; they, the owners, we don’t count, will push you into PFDJ camp, or may even call you as is if you are too aggressive.

        Peace!

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    As it happened, Hailemariam Desalegne had an interview with Shabait after he had a two hour long meeting with Isaias and he said, Isaias is a aselfless person who cares for his people. Really? What is the matter with these people? Why do they act like a little mouse when they meet the guy at the helm and go whip my sorry azz daddy on him? Don’t they have any honesty and integrity left in them at all. The guy is turning the country into a bonanza of prisons including underage for heaven’s sake!

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Dr. Paulos,
      As you are, I am sure, well-versed in how philosophy defines human nature, it’s is imaginatively fathomable how self-interest and self-aggrandizment to satisfy it makes man so fallible and becomes neutral to justice and fairness. Hailemariam Desalegne is simply presenting himself as an expression of the current mood and euphoria passing through the skies of his country.
      No matter how rogue and despotic Isayas Afeworki is to the people he rules by an iron fist, to Hailemariam Desalegne, he is “selfless” and benevolent as long as he becomes a willing agent who has made what few month back seemed as impossible as mirage-like dream come true so easily possible. The fate of a people still languishing under the rule of the despot and his party (Shabia) which were not long ago seen as good as demons or worse, doesn’t bother their conscience. So, dear Paulos, prepare youself for more and extravagant praises of the dictator, unless his propensity to arrogance would betray him and does something that would change the current exuberant mood to gloom, and they return back to square one and resume cursing and demonization.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hayak Allah Al-Austaz Ismail AA,

        I see the issue from a different corner. All were expecting since Melles Zenawi that Isaias will hand them Eritrea one day in accordance to their agreements with him. I guess, there was Isaias terms on the table that is rejected by MZ. The border war was about who rules Ethiopia, Zenawi or Isaias. When he refused to surrender, they had left him on no war no peace situation intentionally until Isaias surrenders. Isaias as a tenacious person and with high aspirations refused to hand Eritrea to tplf while at the helm of power in Ethiopia.

        I guess after the unrest in Ethiopia their sponsors have arranged a beak through to an issue known by all the parties who were ruling Ethiopia. Hailemariam D. is one of the rulers who were expecting submission from Isaias. When Isaias responded to their requests, they started to praise him, Hailemarian Desalegne is one of them.

        • Ismail AA

          Ahlen ustazna al-Jalil Al-Arabi,

          Since the time he set foot as freedom seeker in the ranks of the ELF, Isayas’ conduct had shown many signs that liberation of Eritrea was never his priority. Start to think from unruly behavior towards everything the ELF represented and search towards possibilities of split. Go through refusal of unifying the fighting forces of the liberation struggle even at the time when defeat of the Ethiopian occupation forces appeared more real than apparent (1977-78); add to this his alliance with the TPLF against fellow freedom fighters, pass through the defeat and exit of the Ethiopian army and insistence of referandum which was more for political tactic for moret time than fulfillment of legat necessity.

          I am sure it was not on the minds of EPLF members and fighters; neither was it on the minds of other forces. Had independence been declared right away in 1991, nothing would have happened. What we have witnessed him doing before the Badime debacle and witnessing him at the present gives clue that his ambition was, and remain, bigger than Eritrea as sovereign and independent country. But, for sure many things stood on his way. Besides the Eritrean people and faithful freedom fighter, there was the question of leadership as you have mentioned. TPLF and its leadership under Meles Zenawi with his intellect and shrewdness were hard obstacles that finally lead to war, waste of lives and wealth.

          Now, he seems to be trying another option, which the future will tell how it will unfold. Anyway, research has much in store to sift out and record.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hayak Allah Al-Austaz Ismail AA,

            Here below, you have a post by Semere Tesfai on 21 December 2012. It explains evidently to the point what we watch and hear today. Really, Semere Tesfai knows all the pie. It seems he is one of the inner circles that revolves around Isaias. Please, read the quote below very carefully and you will find the offer clear “no matter how you slice it”. Just Isaias and Semere Tesfai hope to achieve …….. WHAT? .

            “…hoping to achieve, something they sure could achieve for free? Well, beats me. Listen: no matter how you slice it, aggression won’t do the job; love will.” Semere Tesfay December 21, 2012

      • Haile S.

        Selam Paulos, Ismail and all,
        PMHMD did what he had to do. Deliberately or naively he described PIA as he is. Of course we can discuss of the tone of the talk, but yes PMHMD is right, PIA is selfless. Isn’t selflessness or the conviction of it, the perfect path to abuse and over-abuse? Beware of someone who extremely loves you before he loves himself; beware of the self-less, the self-absent. When the love goes -sadistic- you become an empty skull, an object.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Haile,
          As always as I ever knew you in this forum, I understand your point. Yes, you are correct humans can present themselves as selfless devils and merciful angels. The despot is an incarnation of the former. Material ease and luxuries do not count in satiation of his profanities. Capabilities and resources to dominate and prevail over real and imagined enemies do. We observed him pursuing the path to his goals with patience and deceptive humility.

      • Selam Ismail AA,

        How else is it possible to approach a monster? By calling him by the name for what he is? Is it possible to do business with dia by calling him a rogue despote? HMD went to asmara even though he knows for decades who dia really is.

        It is said that good words and beautiful music can calm a snake and even make it come out of its hiding place. Even trump and kim jong un, before they agreed to negotiate they decided they will no more call each other “the fat boy” and “the crazy old fool”.

        It is sinning for the sake of peace, and not really to get eritrea on a platter, as many eritreans think. Eritrea is a problem for ethiopia, and not a lost son coming back home. Ethiopia can do as well without eritrean ports and economic integration, can do business with the rest of her neighbors, and she can contain and tame the dictator whatever he might try to do in the future.

        There is one and only one way this peace deal and economic integration can work. It is only if eritrea changes and becomes a free country with prisons opened, people are free to travel and do business and their is a constitution and a functioning law in the land, etc. Otherwise this fanfare has no future at all. Soon we will hear ethiopia and eritrea accusing each other, and all the rest.

        There lies the benefit for eritrea, i.e. if this knew situation could force upon the dictator change and implementation of the democratic rights that are missing. Otherwise, if anybody has qualms with what is happening today between ethiopia and eritrea, and they think that it is at the expense of eritrea, it is right they oppose it with all the power they have, but they should also know that the last decision belongs to the people who live under the eritrean reality.

        As for ethiopia, i wish she will not repeat the same mistake. This rapprochement should not be any different from that between two sovereign countries (e.g. ethiopia and sudan or kenya), and only under international laws and regulations. Nothing more and nothing less.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Horizon,

          Thanks for the concern. All that we are asking our Ethiopian friends is not to stop searching what their national interest compels them at particular period of time. We can’t do that even if we would aspire. But, the message to them is, for heavens sake, do not worsen and perpetuate our people’s ordeal by investing in the prolongation of despotism. At least respect the sentiments of our people and act modest in propaganda like testifying about “selflessness” of the autocrat as the honorable former PM has done.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear brother Ismail.

            You have explained to our brother Horizon, thank you. Hopefully he will start to think properly as usual and come to correct his mind….

            “It is said that good words and beautiful music can calm a snake and even make it come out of its hiding place. Even trump and kim jong un, before they agreed to negotiate they decided they will no more call each other ” Yep, but not with illegal one…

            I noted you *( Horizon) were here with us and I am certain you know everything..

            KS..

    • Desbele

      Hi Paulos,

      The only admirable Ethiopian visitor yet is Pastor Surafel Demessie. He recognized that there are prisoners of conscience in Eritrea who are languishing for more than 20yrs. He rightly describes it inhumane. He pointed out that it is against freedom of faith and worship. He fearlessly requested a meeting with the authorities(they are Sebe seytan for me) to inquire about them.

      • Blink

        Dear Desbele
        Did you have any clue what meles said about Issaias personality before the war ? Pls ask people and comeback.

        • Desbele

          Dear Blink,
          Why should i care? I lived under the cruel hands of Isayas in Eritrea for more than 15yrs. Go ask all those 100k refugees why they escaped his administration. I believe my naked eyes and ordinary eritrean brothers and sisters than anyone else.
          Do you see the Awate recently posted list of the martyrs? Believe me not a few are executed by the merciless Shaebia itself. The reason-ምኹብላል!! I can provide a name. I know of a young girl (age 26) shot while crossing to Sudan. Another friend in Mediterranean. Who do you think is accountable? እንተዘይንውንወኒስ መን መጽደፈኒ፧

          • Nitricc

            Hi Desble; I think your name should read to “Disable!!!” because your thinking is lazy, toxic and dead. Did you ask ” Who do you think is accountable” how about themselves? You are responsible for your action you idiot. No wonder your name is Desebele Sinkul.

          • Desbele

            ሰላም Nitricc
            Awate መዛተዩ ጣውላ እዮም ቐሪቦምልና። ኣብኡ ነውራም ሃሳባትኻ ጡፍ ምባል መሕሰሪኻ እዩ።
            ለዛ የተዘጋጁ ኣሉልህ meskerem/ESAT/ እዛ ሂደህ ተጸዳዳ

          • Nitricc

            Hi Desbele; I know you don’t know because you belong to shameful Simmer BS but in here at awate-forum it the rule that you can’t tell people where to go. Just to teach you about awate-forum. I see you can write Amharic; are you trying showoff with this toothless and useless language? try again, loser.

          • saay7

            Desbele:

            I think it is the opposition to blame. In some parallel universe, there is apparently another Eritrea where the opposition is to blame for: absence of human rights, lawlessness, war with Ethiopia, shoot to kill orders, absence of constitution, exodus, imprisonment without charges, torture in prisons, sanctions. Eritrea: the only country in the world where an exiled opposition is responsible for everything and the government for nothing. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to talk about the opposition all the time.

            saay

          • Blink

            Dear Desbele
            I highly doubt that. But since it is time to higher TPLF cadre at this hour , you are welcome .

      • saay7

        Desbele:

        The good pastor/prophet is saying that he was ordered to stay in his hotel the entire 3 days he was in Eritrea. I guess the prophet didn’t prophecize that move.

        So he will be one more first hand witness to the nature of PFDJ. A witness who will be ignored because, you know, witnesses are inconvenient

        saay

        • Desbele

          Saay,

          I didnt confirm if it is genuine but i saw in fb a letter from “Association of Evangelicals in Eritrea” . Below is the core message as it is :
          ውድ ይእግዝብኣሄር ልጆች፤ በኤርትራ ያለው መንፈሳዊ እንቅስቃሴ ከግል ያለፈ እንዳልሆነ- ማለትም በቤተክርስትያን ወይም በይፋ ስለመሰብሰብ- ከኢትዮጵያ ሆነ ከማንኛውም ኣገር መንፈሳዊ እንቅስቃሴ በኤርትራ ለማድረግ ከመምጣት እንድትቆጠቡና ባላቹበት በጸሎትና በትዕግስት ከኤርትራ መንግስት ለኣብያተ ክርስትያናት ግልጽ የሆነ የመሰብሰብ ኣዋጅ እስከሚወጣ እንድትጠብቁ በእግዚኣብሄር ፍቅር እንጠይቃለን. It is signed by Epafras with a seal.
          Probably Shaebia urged them to write it .Even if they dont allow them as an association they may just want to deter the influx of the likes of Surafel.

          • Amde

            Selam Desbele,

            A truly sad letter.
            But, praying for Eritrea and Eritreans is truly a thing in Ethiopia, and I think they will be part of the positive change.

            Amde

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Paulos, these guys must soon stop their insults towards the Eritrean people, otherwise history will be repeated.
      ኤርትራውያን ደኣ ኣበይ ከይበጽሑ፣ ደይ ኢሳያስ ከም ድላዩ ዝገብሮም ንምባል ድዩ? ይገርም ኢዩ! ሓደ ህዝቢ ክሳብ ክንድ’ዚ ንሓደ ውልቀሰብ ክምብርከኽ ከሎ እዚ ኢዩ ትርፉ፣ ከምዚ ኣረጊት ኣንበሳ ደቂ ኣናጹ ይጻወታሉ ድዩ ዝበሃል? ወይ ጉድ!

    • rahwa

      Hello Paulos,

      Don’t be surprised anymore. We have so many false witnesses. Hailemariam Desalegne will soon be telling us that the Eritrean people live in democratic country. There is no integrity in Ethiopia. Nobody tells the truth. A good example is Abiy who who worked in the spy agency and as a minister. Basically, he was deep in the system, but when he speaks now it is as if he dropped from out of the sky.Same with Hailemariam Desalegne. Hopefully, this too shall pass.

      • FishMilk

        Hi rahwa. Hailemariam Desalegne was telling Ethiopians that they lived in a democracy during the reign of the TPLF. So, why should you,be surprised?

    • saay7

      Hi Paulos:

      Under the modest chateau
      Are prisoners incognito
      But let’s avert our eyes

      A few miles from words so tender
      Are prisons without calendar
      But faithful in our power to revise

      For your beles on our first date
      We give decorated horses (as bait)
      Our eyes on the prize

      How can you damage the damaged?
      They always seem to manage
      Dust it off and rise.

      saay

      • Haile S.

        Selam all,
        እልልልልልል። ሳልሕ ብግጥሚት ተለኺፉ!

        • saay7

          Haile S:

          When the debtor is absent
          To pay dues on the patent
          Forward the attendant
          So say our betters.

          The poets are silent so you know what our peeps say about እቲ ዕዳ 🙂

          saay

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Aya Adi-U,

        👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • FishMilk

      Hi Ismail AA. You wanted specifics? Just look at the list of people that have upvoted the TPLF Fan Club Membr of the Year Award -Paulos- to get a good overview of those who have in the past sympathized with the TPLF in their ‘at all costs’ efforts to overthrow the PIA/PFDJ regime.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam FishMilk,
        ‘you can do better’, says the great saay7. On this one, I would suggest you grade yourself. Thanks for the try.

        • FishMilk

          Hi Ismail AA. Sorry but I am long gone from days spent in classrooms for which you seem perpetually lost within. Dreamweaver seems to be calling you.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear FishMilk,
            I will consider my dream come true if I could lose myself in classroom and its bounties. My faith tells me that knowledge is from mother’s womb to grave stone. Too bad you chose to evacuate classroom for good. Thanks for engaging.

        • Paulos

          Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

          እዚ ሰብ’ዚ ጸገም ኣለዎ ካብ ንጉሆ ከሳዕ ምሸት ወያነ ክብል’ዩ ዝውዕል ስለዚ ብዙሕ ኣቓልቦ ተዘይገበርካሉ ይሓይሽ።

          • saay7

            Ismailom:

            I am just waiting for the day (any day now) when PFDJ reconciles with TPLF. Then they will flip (bad) but finally come up with a new insult (good.)

            The UAE crown prince gave IA some ኩትሻ to go with the ካትም that Abiye gave him. One more ጎባጉብ ስተሊኒ he will make peace with Weyane and tell us the Tigray and Eritrean people are one and all the Isaiasists will flip.

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Dear saa7,
            The thing is TPLF guys know exactly when and how their former friend makes his moves; that is why they are least worried about him. You heard Dr. Debretsion’s ኣባኾቦራ ምስ ተራኸብና ንርእዮ attitude.

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Top of the line prose/poetry/comedy. You’re looking swell these days. I am still laughing @ ጎባጉብ-‘ስተሊኒ!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sal,
            ደርፊ ረኺበልካ፡ መሪጸልካ –

            ሸልመኒ ሓሸውሸው ዝበለ
            ንዓይ ጋማ ንኣኻ ንወረ

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            That is just a beautiful song. Before them rappers had bling-bling, we had ሓሸውሸው!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            What do u mean i am waiting for the day when pfdj reconcile with tplf ? And tigrai and eritrea r one people? Pfdj already reconcil with eprdf which tplf included. And PIA already said eri and ethio r one people,2 countries, which tigrai is part of ethiopia. As any gov ,It is obvious that peace with ethio and eri means the whole of ethio and eri means. The love talk might take few time since most of the animosity were between tplf and pfdj and it might needs extra reverse psychology work but the reconciliation already started.

          • saay7

            Hi Teodros:

            Is this more ሕልሚ ደርሆ ? Your first sentence contradicts your last sentence.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            Which one?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            Got it , like i said the love talk needs time . my 2nd fav eri artist Elisa kidane already released a song that say mekele ,asmara . axum asmara.

          • saay7

            Teodros:

            Of course she did. Then wait for them to revive old songs by Bereket Mengesteab and Wedi Tkul (“weyanay”). Eritrea is groundshog day every few years, except that’s Bill Murray learns nothing. . We will just shift to cursing Sudan next.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            If we shift to curse sudan or any other countries that means we have some kind of problem with our dna and that is where we need to oppose.

          • saay7

            Teodros

            Us? I think you forgot you are supposed to be Ethiopian.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            Not at all , i was thinking the peace between ethio- eri might be a denger for other countries, i heard that kind of concern.

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            Remember some of our opposition were in bed only with TPLF not with the Tigrians not with Ethiopian justice seekers certainly not with OPDO or ANDM . Now even if TPLF and PFDJ made a peace deal which is against the Federal government law , there is nothing positive or Negative from that peace . What these people are saying are , we can hire few TPLF cadres in order to push their agenda of spilling the already cooked agenda . Look who is opposing the peace and why? once you frame these two points, you can actually find out their last vision of Eritrea.

          • Lamek

            Tewodros Alem, yes Eritrea and Tigrai are one and the same, forever. If you point out one single difference between Eritrean tigrigna speaker and Tigrayan tigrigna speaker, I will buy you ice cream. Oh yeah, I know you are asking ‘but Eritrea is not Tigrinya only’…well, I am not going there. The agenda behind this website is to wage perpetual war between the Tigrinya in Eritrea and those in Tigrai.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam lamek
            In 2018. For me i value harmonisation and the importance of similarity of psychological mind set . In tribalism u r right.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Of course, I guarantee you PFDJ and TPLF will reconcile when the border is opened. There will be no borderless economic relationship without reconciling with TPLF. After all the PM has told the despot that he needs to reconcile with the people of Tigray than with the rest of Ethiopian people. And if he has to do it, it will be through their political organization – which is TPLF.

            Regarding “the parrot’s league” they will not react if the “slogan” changed in the middle of the process of their new relationship. Take for instance, if they didn’t react when the “final and binding” mantra is changed to “we are one people one Government” then they will not react if they tell them that the PFDJ and TPLF are reconciled. After all they were friends in the tough years fighting side by side to defeat the Derg army than with any other political organization. Remember the “subjects” sing with their master. They don’t have their own song.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            I know if u didn’t get it untill now , u will never get it but u have to know how a gov and a country functions, any gov and country. U also have to know that when it comes to borders, foreign relations, economy policy with foreign gov and stuff like that the federal gov is in charge. And u also have to know that tigrai is not the only one bordering tigrai, there r places like afar and occupied territories of welkyet too border eri.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. There was an article in Awate dated October 20,2011, which was titled ‘Addis Ababa Meeting: Expectations And Complexes’ which was written following a TPLF sponsored opposition meeting held in Ethiopia. The article stated ‘Therefore, for the sake of narrowing my analysis into one angle, I will now focus on Ethiopian intervention in Eritrea through supporting Eritrean opposition groups’. Oh my, how some people must dearly be missing the strong support of the TPLF!

  • FishMilk

    Those who are now criticizing the sincerity and content of the Ethiopian Eritrean Peace Agreement (to include rumormongering about unity, confederation, giving away ports, etc.) are by default simply longing for the TPLF and its support which has now vanished.

  • Acria

    Selam Hope,
    Surely. I will do the same only because I have a choice. Even Ethiopia doesn’t have compulsory military service. Although, you could be called anytime to serve in the army if needed. So, Ethiopia emulates the USA. I wonder how they maintain their military might. The same goes for Djibouti, Kenya, Yemen, and Sudan ( to some extent). Any observation to how our relationship has been with these countries, with the exception of Kenya? Don’t you think it is high time we put our brain to think something else productive?

  • Paulos

    Abinism,

    Sometimes I wonder if Fantination is a monk who goes online incognito, say, from ደብረቢዘን.

  • Haile S.

    Selam Abi,
    I had a Mortimer for freshman-Eng or for soffurmore at 4kilo. He never gives A to a habesha, B rarely.