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Eritrean Secret Financial Network Unravels

remittances from the Eritrean Diaspora is drying up quickly and dropped by about a third in the first half of 2014 compared to the same period in 2013.

Gedab News learned that the Eritrean regime is going through a crisis exasperated by the unraveling of the secret operations of Himbol, the ruling party’s foreign currency collecting firm. This new crisis has dealt a fatal blow to the already deteriorated Eritrean economy which is monopolized by the ruling party.

The line separating the finances of the Eritrean government and the ruling party is blurred and wrapped in secrecy.

Recently, several financial agents of the regime disappeared together with the money entrusted to them; an agent who lived in an Arabian Gulf country has disappeared with $5 million.

As a result, presidential palace sources indicate that Hagos “Kisha” is going through pressure from President Isaias Afwerki for failing to control theft of party money and maintain the flow of hard currency into the country. The news also indicated that the president is distancing Hagos “Kisha” from major financial decisions.

Sources informed Gedab News that, “remittances from the Eritrean Diaspora is drying up quickly and dropped by about a third in the first half of 2014 compared to the same period in 2013.”

The situation has worsened after Yemane Tesfai, the general manager of the Commercial Bank of Eritrea, was arrested. Yemane was the second most important man after Hagos “Kisha” Gebrihiwet, the manager of all the party’s’ businesses and finances.

Yemane, who often accompanies regime officials in their travels to buy arms, on important business missions, joined the EPLF, the precursor to today’s ruling party, in mid 1970s bringing with him money he grabbed from an Ethiopia bank where he worked. After the independence of Eritrea he became the Manager of the Commercial Bank of Eritrea which gradually took over the task of the central bank of Eritrea.

Tekie Beyene, the last governor of the bank of Eritrea, has been frozen since the border war following the launching of the Eritrean currency, Nakfa, which contributed in igniting the border war with Ethiopia.

Experts believe the destruction of the Eritrean financial institutions reached a point of no return when the commercial bank became a tool of illicit trade serving the ruling party. This undermined the role of the Bank of Eritrea as a central bank in formulating the financial policy of the country.

The bank, which acts as a treasury of the ruling party, is believed to maintain, “two sets of accounting books, one for the Eritrean government and another for foreign entities.”

According to a UN report, “Eritrea manages two parallel economies: a formal economic sphere ostensibly managed by the State, and an opaque, largely offshore financial system controlled by elements of the ruling PFDJ party and their supporters.”

The report adds, “According to government officials, the formal economic system involves transactions almost exclusively in nakfa, the non-convertible Eritrean national currency, and is characterized by a chronic hard currency deficit.”

That deficit has been worsening and, allegedly, Isaias Afwerki blames Hagos “Kisha” and Yemane Tesfai for it.

Himbol, a firm owned by the ruling party, has branches all over the world and it operates secretly from community centers run by the supporters of the regime. Though Himbol is known among Eritreans as a money transfer company, its mission is collecting hard currency from Diaspora Eritreans for the benefit of the ruling party.

The UN report states that the finances of the party are “managed almost entirely offshore through a labyrinthine multinational network of companies, individuals and bank accounts, many of which do not declare any affiliation to PFDJ or the Eritrean State and routinely engage in “grey” or illicit activities.”

The financial crisis has cast its shadows on the lucrative Himbol operation and a domino effect enticing, “several financial agents to disappear with considerable amounts of money, one of them with $5 million” from an Arab Gulf country.

The Eritrean regime has been focusing on revenues from mining investments as the volume of traditional remittances has been dwindling year after year. To this effect, it has been holding yearly seminars on mining to woo investors.

In the seminar that was held in 2013, potential investors questioned the wisdom of investing in the Eritrean mining sector when the government had just arrested its minister of mining Mr. Ahmed Haj Ali.

This year, investors questioned the wisdom of investing in a country that just arrested the general manager of a commercial bank that doubled as Eritrea’s central bank.

On October 1, 2014, the two-day seminar on mining was opened by Gen. Sebhat Ephrem, the former defense minister and new Minister of Energy and Mines, who replaced his arrested predecessor a few months ago.

Ahmed Haj Ali, the former Minister of Energy and Mining was arrested in the spring of 2013. He was accused of collaborating with an insurrection by members of the Eritrean Defense Forces that was led by the late Colonel Saied Ali Hjay. The insurrection was quickly quashed due to betrayals and the government arrested the elements who participated in the insurrection. Colonel Saeed Hjay was killed after his arrest.

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  • Hope

    Dear Olana,
    Thank you for your advice.
    Withh all due respect,Sir/Madam,you are trying to be more Catholic than the Pope and a “better” witness than the Victim himself.
    Have you been to Eritrea lately?If so, did you visit sawa,Bisha,the Hellish Aseb Front?Have you talked to the EDF members?have you visited a family member,who is the victim of the PFDJ torture?
    Have you visited some of the AIDS vicitms,Orphans,the Blind,the Deaf,..etc?
    Have you talked to the MDs,Nurses,Teachers,some Ministers,the Students,the Farmers,the Widowed,the Single Moms ?If so,what did they tell you and what did you feel?
    Have you been affiliated with the ELF or EPLF in any form?
    Have you been affilaited with the PFDJ?
    Have you lost a family in the Sahara and Sinai Desert; and at the Mediteranean Sea?
    Etc…
    My answeres to all of the above if you ask me the same questions is Oh Yeah,I have been there,have done that,have seen and heard that,have lived that,etc—
    And the ONLY and the INKO justification I have to have contributed the miniscue 2% was based on the above facts,NOT to make the PFDJ Rich!
    And you have the gut to tell me this and that and call me with names?
    You would NOT believe me if I am going to tell you that I witnessed the innocent Iraqi and Palestinian Kids sufferring and dying due to lack of Basic Nutriton and Basic Health Care due to the god-damn sanctions imposed by the same evil people and Devils imposing sanctions on my poor people under the cover up of supporting terrorism,etc…..
    Huh,and you are preaching me about my own peoples’ suffering and cursing me for paying the meaning-less few pennies since I am helping the PFDJ to be rich??
    Gosh.Are you by chance sending few dollars to help your family at home?But do you know that most of the Money Laundering Agents that you might be sending through could be the same PFDJ Agents that you are fighting against?
    Get life man.
    As to “Ab kulu edka toblah ayteble kemzfelit seb”:
    I never said I know this and that but I ask and challenge until I get an answer.
    But I will keep doing until the Moderator prohibits me fromdoing so.
    This is an opne and free forum and debate.
    if people have the right to insult Eritrea and Eritreans rigyt and left in the name of debate and Freedom of Speech ,why can’t I put my hands all over when I feel it to do so?

  • Rodab

    Our people inside the country would probably be interested to know the answers to questions like how much are we earning from the Bisha mining production? Does Eritrea support Sudanese opposition groups? What are we doing with TPDM? What sort of problem do we have with Djibouti? Can we get enlightenment on the 2% diaspora taxation?….But asking those questions would put them on heads-on collision with the regime and thus face heavy-handed punishment, such as disappearance. But do you know who can ask those questions and not only won’t be endangered but would have all of its questions answered? SEMG! That’s right, our President is as much submissive to SEMG as he is contemptuous to the people he presides over. Recently the Eritrean airlines rented a plane, does it mean the air line is back in business? What was the reason for PIA to suddenly mention the drafting of the constitution on his independence day address, yet the word constitution was never mentioned ever again, much less to discuss it? What is the reason electricity is such a scarce commodity in Eritrea? We don’t have access to ask, so we don’t know. But I was thinking, why don’t we send all of such questions to SEMG? They will certainly get answers. They can even ask for bank account# of senior PFDJ officials (they almost did, check the link below) and would still get answer. I think I might have discovered a loophole to getting us the much needed answers to so many accumulated issues.
    http://www.innercitypress.com/smeg1eritrea080114.pdf

    • Nitricc

      Rodab how about this link? I am discombobulated how this government withstood all attacks in every corner. Even at one time my hero, Ali Abdu sold his government and country. I don’t give a flying hoot but when external bodies screw around with your armed forces, you don’t cooperate-NO! This people; under cover of UN tried to feed every intelligence to the Eritrean enemy, Ethiopia and I am greatly saddened that Ali Abdu was involved. One thing sure; give the credit to PFDJ and PIA. They beat you, they beat everyone at every game you ever tried.
      Now, rodab tell what you think about this link.

      http://www.innercitypress.com/smeg1mahtaniicp.pdf

      • ghezaehagos

        Nitric,

        “…They beat you, they beat everyone at every game you ever tried..”
        Do you even know how to count. It like you are counting the goals that got scored against your net as your goals…For years, the Isaias regime cried foul and begged for the lifting of the sanctions, but each year the sanctions remain in FORCE. So, how is that PFDJ beat everyone….If the resignation of Mahtani is big issue, think again, the resignation of Bryden didn’t change the fundamental mandate of SEMG.
        And See you next year SEMG report, sanctions will continue…
        Ghezae Hagos

        • Nitricc

          Gezaei I think you misunderstood my take. I am not surprised the sanction is standing and will continue to stand, I am astonished beyond believe that the government and PIA are standing. I am trying to figure it out if the PFDJ and PIA are that strong or their adversary are that weak. Since I remember, all I heard was “their days are numbered” it is truly amazing. The Weyane are in over
          time mode to throw the government and PIA, now they are bluffing to go war openly. The Americans did hide their intention it is out and open. The Eritrean opposition are in Mekelle selling everything including their dignity to throw out PIA and his government. The diaspora is out to get PIA and PFDJ and if that is not enough the toothless and good for nothing corrupted UN is all out against PIA and his government. To use Ali Abdu against PIA and PFDJ is where the last strew for me. I have predicted long ago PIA will leave power when his maker makes a call. So, unless some one is answered SAAY’s inquiry; then I suggest let’s all chill and wait. the sanction and the opposition are empowering PIA and his system.

    • haileTG

      Hello Rodab,

      Overall, I found the response much like the previous one’s, prevarication. Yes, it submitted to disclose figures the regime thought would placate the situation, i.e they said on aggregate they received $73 million over four years from the 2% diaspora tax and on average $150 million annually from the mining since 2011. You might as well consider they plucked the numbers out of the blue. It needs to submit concrete evidences by way of transaction receipts, bank transfers, deposits and withdrawals and so on. It just can’t declare a sum and tell porkies. I agree that it is refreshing to see how the regime is coward and submits when it is dealt a firm hand. The message to HEGDEFITES is that ከልቢ’ስ ጎይትኡ እምበር ናይ ጎይትኡ ጎይታ ኣይፈልጥን እዩ! IA intermediate the interviewer on Sep. 6 2013, when asked exactly the same question about mining revenue. And he is talking BS now when he is smacked good and proper 🙂

  • haquda

    you said Meles Zenawi is from “reach family” then please watch this documentary
    Meles and his poor family

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j4bDPRswwQ

    • mecharie wollo

      you see this is what i am telling you, you dump, is contradictiong
      yoursdumpself, if the late PMZ has the so called money, do you think his
      flashed sister will live that to the ground life, what i am saying is
      his family was reach during the kings era when he was decided to be
      rebel, now i become honestly to beleave those of your cousins on the
      north as they have said to you that most of Eritreans are dump heads i
      cant say all, it is harshly impossible to live with you. you are blind
      folded your eyes not to see any thing true. when the rest of tyhe world
      has said the late PMMZ is a world class leader, you said he is a **** i
      don’t want to say it again, and then when the entire world has said that
      esayas is dump head and lunatic, you said he is a leader who
      comes one a 100 year. shame on you.

  • Eyob Medhane

    Ambesa,

    What does that mean? Translate, please. I am dying to know… 🙁

  • Dawit Beyene

    Naqfa,

    how about looting the country for 30 years…..that is nothing comparing the money he took from the bank. the ” down sprial to abyss…” is the result of incompetent leader, it has nothing to do with Nakfa.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    You see how heinous these jews people are! They claim they are the victims of persecution the other day, and then they treat poor African immigrants this way. I hope one day in the future the Palestinians will be strong enough to drive away these bloody occupiers out of their land.
    A proud African.

  • Hope

    Antum hatafat Abel,Simon et al:
    First of all,do not steal my brother’s and nephew’s names.
    I repeatedly told you the fact that this 12 Billion USD was ripped off the poor Ethiopians since the last 8-10yrs ;and I agree Ethiopia does not and Cannot have this money but it was alms from your masters donated in the form of Aid but the TPLF Gang stole it on a day light—-
    Talk about “Lie” as the modus operandi of your Leaders.
    If you care about Ethiopia and the poor ethiopians,you have the obligation to fight for your people,not with me; but if you have to “defend” your Thieves,challenge the Western Media…consult with the US Congress and the British PM.
    Inkilil,kemish adey hanquiluni—bla,bla…yada yada.
    This is a Public Secret.
    Guess what? I am proud of Vet Yemane Tesfay for taking out the money and giving it to where it belonged to.
    He gave it to the poor vicitms,NOT to the Swiss or NY Banks.
    Go to where you belong ya kezabat wahid rather than creating chaos and confusion here and do your own home work as we know how to do ours.
    We have no space for kum-negher albo gurra here

    • Abinet

      Hope
      Someone from your side did his homework and found out IA is from Tigray. You were fooled all these years. Can you believe this? Sorry Hope . Now it is clear why he saved addis and Mekele from the marching EDF. God bless him.

  • Abinet

    Feven
    I didn’t know that we had a thief turned a PM.
    “Yebase ale agerhin atlqeq ”
    Gud new!!!

  • Ambassador

    We finally settled for democracy without dollars. PFDJ outperforms itself by offering us dictatorship without nakfa.

  • Araya,
    It is a cruel world. The irrational
    and distorted view that the tall, blond and blue-eyed Aryan race is a superhuman
    was the reason 6m innocent Jews were inhumanly murdered during WWII. The wrong
    belief that Jews are Caucasian, a chosen, special and superior race, has made them
    extremely racist, especially to Africans.
    Ethiopian Jews have many stories to
    tell: from injection of Depo Provera without an informed consent (which is
    equivalent to forced long-term contraception, without caring at all about its
    long-term side effects, which makes one
    suspicious of the motive), to refusal to accept blood donations, the right to ride
    on city buses, rent or buy a house anywhere in the country etc. I am sure that
    these ultra-nationalist Jews will never accept the Jewishness of Ethiopian Jews.
    Fortunately, there are sane and
    democratic people who have not forgotten that Jews faced and face even today
    injustices in many places all over the world, and they stand against those
    extremists that are vilifying the memory of millions of Jews who saw the ugly
    face of hatred, and ended up being victims of human beasts. Many Jews oppose the things we saw on the video and
    condemn discrimination against Ethiopian Jews .
    Illegal immigrants or not, human beings
    should be treated humanely, and everybody should understand this basic human
    right. The Israeli state should facilitate
    as much as possible, the transfer of these people to the destinations they want
    to reach, make it an international problem so that all countries would help and
    involve the UN as much as possible.

    Even though the scene is deplorable,
    nevertheless, ISIS is an organization of evil psychopaths that are enemies of peace,
    normality and have the aim to destroy human society, as we know it, and we
    should not wish such criminals for anybody. I am sure that it is said and not meant.

    • Hope

      My Dear,the Ambassador of Peace.
      I think I should listen to your Sermons at bed time always..
      Yes,Sir,I was there and I have been there and have done that,kind of—when we were involved in the 24-hr-Air-lifting Operation Solomon or something like that(not the 1980s Operation Moses from the Sudan)of the 24K Ethiopian-Jews to Israel while the Joint EPRDF-EPLF Forces were ordered to stay away at the out-skirts of Addis in may of 1991 GC until the Operation was accomplished.
      I did follow them in a yr and have seen on person what you mentioned.
      The whole Blood donated by the Ethiopians was burnt out.
      Me and my other Colleagues from all over the other parts of the world were forced to have repeated HIV tests despite that we were screened through their respective Emabssies in Addis.

      • Dear Hope,
        I am waiting for my response to you to appear. Last time it was Haile TG, who lost his comment and had to mobilize a search and rescue team (smile!). This time it seems that it is going to be my turn. Nevertheless, for the time being, I have chosen a wait and see approach.

  • Hope

    Plus,don’t they know that about $12 billion went missing by their own Ministers and Bankers in the last 8 yrs besides the daughter of the late PMMZ has just deposited about $ 5billion to a New York Bank with a full knowledge of the USA. Congress.
    Weyo neti naten ghedifensi nay ends hamaten!
    Let me rephrase it in Amharic though quote unrelated:
    Libeliwat yekejelu Amora yiliwatal zgigra!
    Meaning that the robbery of your own banks by your own People is being considered ok.
    Mind you few thousand money vs $17 Billion!

    • Abel

      Wow!!!

      Ethiopia has become a land of Billionaires? 17 Billion US Dollars ? how much Nakfa would that be?

      Hope; reminds me the popular TV program in the old days” Sit Engedih”

      • Hope

        BTW,this report is not mine or a made-up story but the western media exposed it and this money is Aid Money ,not produced inethiopia.
        So,try to know a bit before you bluff.
        That of PMMZ’s daughter issue was discussed in detail by theBritish PM and even the US Congress.
        It is your home work,not mine to dig out and confirm or refute it as it is none of my business and I was just reacting to the insult of Vet Yemane Tesfay for doing his job as a freedom fighter

        • Abel

          You never disclose your source.You put it as your own,now you telling us you over heard it from the British PM? What the heck, if you have to lie you might as well lie big.

          • Hope

            Dude,
            I know Truth hurts but I told you that it is your own business to verify or refute it.
            It has been well documented all over the western media–so, go and figure it out.
            Don’t cry here but if you have the gut,go and challenge your Corrupted Ministers and ask them where that 12 Billion USD is.
            Migraine headache asyazkuh,aidele?It sounds like you got some share of it…
            My apology.

      • Eyob Medhane

        Abel,

        Wodya, wodih, sit engedih…

        Isn’t that Tshaye’s song 🙂

        • Hope

          Oh yeah,eyobay,you get what you see…it is more than” Wodiya,Wodih,”bedenb adrigheh sit enghidih”!!!
          Make sure you know first with whom you are dealing with,here.

        • Abel

          Eyob. the perfect fit for your character is rather the the DERG era TV program
          “Sit Engedih” It was sort of a competition for a Big Lie.

      • haquda

        Abel you ask hope for source about Ethiopian people Aid money outflow to oversea banks(stolen by its leaders), you have the source enjoyed it.

        http://www.financialtransparency.org/2011/12/05/illegal-ethiopian-capital-flight-skyrocketed-in-2009-to-us3-26-billion/

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGkkCWphuZQ

        • Hope

          ewwwww!
          haquda—-this is too much,my man!

        • Abel

          And yet if they still could manage to transform the country with industrialization, modern transport, modern agriculture.health service and education? It is absolutely fine with me, I take it as a bonus for excellent work.

          BTW who is crying on the video ? Is it Hope, Eyobe,Nitric or haquda ?

  • haileTG

    Selamat Mahmuday,

    I know the credo of the writer, it is as you described. If you also remember few years back they had reported on Iran and Eritrea colluding and that the next middle east war would be fought in Eritrea! Yes they are the zealot type.

    What leaves more to be desired on our side (on good many of us including me at times) is the way we read news. We tend to assume reactive role, as if the intent of the reporting was to survey our opinion. Unfortunately, media is used to sensitize public opinion according to the background affiliations of each particular organization engaged in it. So, what we have is:

    1 – The SEMG laid charges against the the regime of the State of Eritrea

    2 – The UNSC, under Chapter VII, had imposed sanctions based on the charges.

    3 – Demands were made from the regime both for change of approach and access to investigation

    It has been half a decade since the placement of the sanctions. The regime has not made a single change in the way it conducts business or granting access to the UN body tasked with investigation of the matter. And, as the regime continues to prevaricate, the various media would continue to utilize ad hoc information and an image would be created. It is to be regretted some would find this unfair but there is little here to accommodate informal view points.

    Take for example that the Somalia terror link issue had been evolved to regional destabilization charges. The issue of Ginbot 7 and TPDM are classic indictments in this regard (you may say Ethiopia is doing the same too, but still its case hasn’t been part of international summons as that of Eritrea’s). Therefore it would be reported that Eritrea is actively engaged in regional destabilization activities.

    The next example is what you are reading in the article above. Money laundering and clandestine financial operations is part of complex international crime syndicate. Eritrea doesn’t have to formally support a Somali terror group or what have you. By simply engaging in illicit financial activities, it is indirectly linked in much further and dangerous international criminal rackets. In order to be able to carry out its black market and clandestine money transfer activities, it would need to collude with such like entities who may be linked to other such like entities. Such involvement in financial dealings feeds in all sorts of other global criminal infrastructures as weapon smuggling, human trafficking, drug and narcotics, terrorism, and the likes.

    The last example is the steady flow of information reaching the investigators from ex members of the regime is shedding more light. The regime has refused to cooperate to be investigated and hence those claims would stand until proven otherwise.

    In all, news items like above are snapshots of how the country is framed in international opinion. I can copy you identical texts from Reuters, BBC, CNN… it wouldn’t make a difference. Just imagine that everybody knows human trafficking ransom was being paid in Asmara, in government offices. There is a material evidence deposited with the UN in such regard. Can we see through the eye of the outsider? In front of any outsider, the regime has no legs to stand on and is rightly assumed a risk factor. Once an audit is launched by the UN, either powerful allies have to help quash it or it would have to be satisfied to the UN’s demand. Otherwise it would set a precedent that the UN can be slapped down by countries like ours. Eritrea lacks such an ally (even its much publicized patrons are US poodles themselves) and the regime must cooperate therefore.

    Sorry Mahmuday, witness testimonies of well wishers wouldn’t cut it in these type of high stakes international matters.

    Regards

    • Mahmud Saleh

      HTG
      Thank you for contextualizing it, now you give the reader a backdrop of the article, plus the international ramification. Well, name sells Haylat, once a name is tarnished, it takes time to be competitive. እንታይ ይገበር፡ ህግድፍ ስም ናይዚ መስኪን ህዝቢ ኣበላሽዮም።

      • haileTG

        Mahmuday,

        Here is a link regarding my last example, info that is reaching SEMG:

        http://www.innercitypress.com/smeg1mahtaniicp.pdf

        We need to be close to certain that this whole process and including the other HR related issues are eventually destined to bring down PFDJ. They are not destined to find replacement, they are not destined to chart a political map, just bring down the regime. It is a foregone conclusion that they will succeed in doing so (99%+) as they have perfected the system. Eritreans could have smartened up now to remove the regime under their own terms. But my hunch is that we gonna wait to the last minute and be surprised when the obvious happens. We may think now is the worst time, but tomorrow might be much worse. The PFDJ has 0.0001% chance to extricate itself from here on, I just wish (even by some fluke accident) the armed forces somewhat regain consciousnesses of the impeding disaster. It would be pity for them to let the country slip away from under their noses.:-)

        • Hope

          Hmmm,
          Haylat,
          I rest my case on this issue after I read your concise but to the point Logical and “factual” analysis and after reading the above link where the former Minister has fully cooperated.
          Bingo!Case closed.
          But I remain against the Sanction of Eritrea in all aspects and in its all forms coz it is the fault of one individual and that individual should be sanctioned as such specifically,NOT Eritrea or Eritreans.
          But is the Eri Public and the Army aware of these?
          It will be our fault then for not doing so…..
          Dihri mai nab be’ati.
          is Nitrikay aware of these so that he can raise those issues in the YPFDJ Conferences?

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Hi Araya;
    It is not strange to see these Jews people going crazy about immigrants from Africa, when one remembers that they are living in a land they took by force from the Palestinians

  • Somebody is put in a certain
    position, in this case an employee of an Ethiopian bank, and entrusted with a
    certain responsibility. He runs away with a certain amount of money. One side
    calls him a thief, while the other side calls him a patriot, thus proving the
    adage that somebody’s villain is another body’s hero. People are turning their
    basements upside down searching for old grudges to accuse each other of past
    sins. This shows that Ethiopians and Eritreans continue to live in two parallel
    universes. What a hopeless situation.

    Whoever brought the subject to the
    forefront has made a big mistake, and should have left it as one of the many
    skeletons each side has to continue to hide in their cupboards, because it
    brings no added value to the integrity of the person, nor to Ethio-Eritrean
    future friendship.

    • Eyob Medhane

      Horizon,

      Actually the topic was brought by Awate staff themselves in the above article….I think we are just making fun of Isayas Afeworki’s money man, the former Ethiopian bank employee, who stole (grabbed according to the article) some cash from where he worked…Nothing serious… Don’t take it too seriously….

      • Hope

        Eyobay,
        InTigrigna,we say :” Kab beha’li’us degami’u”.
        The point is that we should have not aggravated it and I “blame the AT for not editing that part”.
        There is a similar saying in Amharic but forgot it and Haile will check it.

    • Hope

      God bless you man?
      You remember the fate of the Sodom and Gomera in the Old Testament and related issue where most people in theTown were saved just because of few Godly people?
      Few people like you and Dr Fanti Ghana,who seem and sound to be very Godly/God-fearing,will save us–Insha’llah–God willing!
      Your consistency mesmerized me,Lol!
      GN and God blessyou ,man

  • haileTG

    Sealamat AT and awatista,

    As time deaws near to re-consider the UN sanctions in Eritrea by the SEMG and UNSC, it seems that the regime is no where near ending its illegal money laundering activities. Even if the Eritrean regime engages in such criminal economic arrangements to siphon off the Eritrean financial treasury, it creates, inadvertently, a huge security risk regionally and internationally by making Eritrea a state actor on the side of terrorists, money and weapon smugglers and a hub for inter-state criminal organizations.

    Kendall adds that Eritrea exploits consular services to fund jihad: “Eritreans living throughout the world, including the U.S. and Canada, are often forced to pay a diaspora tax, collected by Eritrean embassies and consulates (which is a violation of international consular law). This money is used to fund Eritrea’s despotic regime, which uses the proceeds partly to buy weapons and to fund jihadist groups against its neighboring African enemies.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/u-s-dollars-flow-to-fund-jihad/#Pxj2JI5z2hbJzm6m.99

    Regards

    • Hope

      Hailat,
      Are you serious to buy this though?
      I mean—I used to pay my 2% taxes until 2 yrs ago but to my best recall,NO body ever forced me to do so.
      I think we exhausted this issue and is better to leave it aside and move on with the main agenda.
      Coz this propaganda will NOT convince the majority of Eritreans in my opinion.
      As to buying weapons,well,if that is going to help the EDF to defend itself and Eritrtea,I will pay more taxes.
      As to fuding the Jihadists,I think the Jihadists have more income than they need from Eritrea.
      Sanction Eritrea again?
      On what basis and from what perspective?
      Sanctioning the few leadership members in any form,yes but to Sanction Erittrea as a Nation and Eritreans as a People,NO.
      NO to SANCTION at all.
      Consult the Iraqi Children as to why.China will tell you why as well.
      Are you in your right mind to talk about Sanctioning Eritrea and Eritreans again?
      With all due respect ,Sir,please clarify yourself.

      • haileTG

        Hi Hope,

        Unfortunately, the issue is a matter of international significance, not what you or me would like to see it as. In think the SEMG would make another report, as a follow on to the last. The regime is not willing to grant unfettered access (including to documents in all PFDJ institutions and the Office of the President itself). Minister Osman Salih made a desperate attack on the UN and the influential powers within it recently. You can deduce from that the bad blood will be there when it comes to assess if the regime had shown any improvement in its standing (internationally recognized as such) a threat to world peace and security. It still is engaged in arming and training regional spoilers to wreck havoc in the horn of Africa region, it still is engaged in illegal financial dealings and it still is engaged in massive human rights violations resulting in large scale humanitarian crisis. One can always write a letter to the UN in support of the regime’s stand, but it would fall on deaf ears and the censure would remain in place.

        BTW if you have stopped paying your 2%, you need to keep in mind that you have now effectively lost ALL citizenship rights (save ID card and entry visa waiver, that being only a form of security arrangement in the regime’s favor – i.e to disappear you if they need to, claiming that you entered the country as an Eritrean).

        Regards

        • Hope

          Ok
          Seem,Haile and Abraham,:
          Back to square ONE – a Pandora’s box ?
          I was advised before that the Sanction was targeted and non-economic but now you are blowing it up openly that Eritrea and Eritreans should be subjected to Economic Sanctions by any means while fully knowing the deadly consequences like the case of Iraq but at the same time refuting some positive developments in Eritrea by Eritreans besides blaming on the PFDJ everything.and all the failures.
          So if I do not pay some tax se like every other Citizen in the other parts of the world, who is going to help the Martyrs’ kids, the MDG activities,
          The MCH. -the Mother and Child Health,The AIDS Programs,the Basic Food and Clean Water Programs,etc…
          Basically you want me to buy that the Kids of Eritrea should be treated like the kids of Iraq,where more than 350,000 of them died.due to lack of basic Nutrition and Health Care simply coz I hate PFDJ.
          Heavens NO’!
          Are you guys in your right mind beside being drunk with hate?
          I thought there are other ways of bringing change in Eritrea and getting rid of the PFDJ.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            As long as the humanitarian aid reaches directly to where it is intended, the poor Eritrean people, I don’t have any problem. I’wd be more than happy just like any well-wishing person. But the fact is that the people is getting poorer by the day under Isayas rule and when you know that the PFDJ-system lacks the least of accountability and transparency, then you don’t need to be an expert to see where the money you give will end up.

          • Hope

            -Dude,
            —see,you will sit back and do nothing and watch Eri kids die for nothing —-simply coz you do not want to see Rich PFDJ?Is that right,Dude?
            That is beyond absurdity and hypocrisy in my opinion,Dude!!
            You reminded me an Eri Intellectual here in the USA duringthe EPLF Era,who stood firm against sending Aid to the Liberated areas since he thought that the Aid might go to the EPLF Fighters.
            This Dude,I believe has never visited Erittrea after 1991 coz his evil actions were well documented.His only reason was that he was an ELF Supporter or somethinglike that.

        • Hope

          FYI,
          I was already reported and accused of being a sympathizer of the EPDP so, by default,I gave up my Eri Citizenship.
          If you want more,I was detained for 24hrs few yrs ago during my last visit to Eritrea when I was even a ” Clean Supporter ” of the System and as of yet,I have no clue as to why, as usual and like all detainees.
          But I won’t stop doing and saying what I feel is right.

        • Hope

          Update: on October 8, Inner City Press asked the UN’s Spokesman about the letter. The Spokesman said it has now been “shown” to Dinesh Mahtani, who has resigned–
          See above posting by inner city staff.
          What Vet Mahmoud said still holds water.

          • haileTG

            Hi Hope, thanks for the update.

            Now what do you think this means in relation to SEMG and its impact on the actual review of the sanctions soon or the possible actions of UNSC vis-a-vis Resolutions 1907, 2023 and 2060? More importantly, do you think matters pertaining the integrity of personnel has a baring on the principal issue that is at stakes between the UN and Eritrea (or the powers to be and Eritrea?).

            Please give us detailed analysis Hope, because I am getting tired of this unpopular jobs as sanctions analyst, civil war advisory and the likes. It kinda make me feel a weather man forcasting during brutal wintry conditions 🙂

          • Hope

            Hailat,
            The “detailed analysis” is,in fact,your job,not mine.I was jsut posting a follow up to your arguement.
            Irrespective of the International Community’s pressure,stand,power,influence,etc—we have to tell the other side of the truth as well.
            Basically,you are telling us that :”No matter what,it is a done deal and we have to accept it irrespective of its consequences”—-
            But I believe ,as Citizens,we have an obligation to counter argue that things should be done in a proper way……irrespective of the outcome of our effort.
            The thousands who attended PIA’s visit in NY —were not in support of PIA but in support of Eritrea as a Nation.
            Now,pls,with all due respect,since you are an Expert of Data Collection,Links,Evidence,ect—tell us about a single case scenario where a Sanctioned Nation or People has survived well or has done better….other than doing worse for that matter.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        OMG, Hope, you’ve been paying 2% until the year 2012? That means you’ve been fanancing PFDJ’s human rights violations all these years? How come it took you so long to understand the regime’s attrocities and break with the regime. I think this is our main problem, for whatever reason, people are simply not willing to break with the PFDJ-system so easily. Anyway better late than never.

        • Hope

          —Dude,
          There is a difference,at least in my opinion,between the PFDJ and Eritrea and poor Eritreans.
          I repeatedly “confessed” ,un-necessarily unfortunately,about the PFDJ crimes and about myslef as the worst victim of the PFDJ.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            But, dude, you need to remember whatever you give to PFDJ, it will never reach the poor people. It will just og to enrich the pockets of dictator Isayas and his closer servants. How come you don’t understand this fact?

          • Hope

            Dude,
            Good excuse/kemish Adey hanquiluni–kind..
            -I have the right to do what I feel is right for my country and people and let us save our files for persecution in a New Eritrea
            -I am abiding by the law of the day—this law passed in 1993 by the then National Assembly.
            -The GoE,irrespective of its “Crimes and wrong doings”,etc.. has proven its effectiveness and efficiency,which was witnessed and confirmed by the Donors when it comes to using the resources it was provided with,relatively speaking and ,hence,I advise you to consult the UN Bodies dealing with this and accuse them accordingly.
            From 1993 -1998,only 30% of Diaspora Eritreans paid the 2% Rehab taxes.Why?Why NOT 100%?
            “PFDJ” was doing “well” relatively until then.
            You did NOTanswer my question as to who is going to take care of those vulnerable and Poor Eritreans.

      • Semere Andom

        Cousin hope:
        You were in remission lately and cousin Sal was going to win our bet that expires end of this Dec, but now it came back,yet that PFDJ malady that has crippled many an Eritrean for a long time. Eritrean government should be sanctioned be tightened on the PFDJ for its cruel disappearing of Eritreans if not for nothing else. If you were the brother of Dawit, one of the journalists who at Ela-Ero lost his sanity according to Eyob Bahta, a former guard at that prison, what would you say? Now we know that you have financed this atrocities by your taxes. You and I had some heated exchanges but after while I perceived you as a nice, smart and spiritual dude, who is over protective of Eritrea, but to say the sanctioning of PFDJ and your financing them qualifies you in the pantheons of Nitricc if not for your caliber of course, but definitely your being out of touch and a liability in realizing our dreams

        • Hope

          –Hmmm,
          What if I tell you that my own uncle-a top ELF Security Official,and a Colone by PFDJ Shumet(could have been a Full General by any standard) was beaten to near-death and ended up having a serious TBI(Traumatic Brain Injury) and just got released from jail to die at his house(“Lucky”–huh) but the purpose seems to be to traumatize the whole family including his Teenage kids.
          No need of repeating my stand on 2% tax as it would sound “insanity”.
          God will judge me by my good intention,NOT by what the PFDJ is doing with my few thousand USD.
          Do NOT Judge,lest to be judged!

    • Hope

      Hailat,
      You missed this one too:
      Same source: Inner city. Press(th eAT–if I ,messed up th eCopy Right ,please remove it)..
      Somalia & Eritrea Monitor Used UN to Ask States for Favor, “Regime Change”
      By Matthew Russell Lee, Exclusive
      UNITED NATIONS, October 7, updated Oct 8 — A member of the UN’s Somalia Eritrea Monitoring Group has reportedly used UN SEMG time and supplies for unrelated advocacy regarding Eritrea, Inner City Press learned and then obtained documentation of, exclusively put online here.
      Update: on October 8, Inner City Press asked the UN’s Spokesman about the letter. The Spokesman said it has now been “shown” to Dinesh Mahtani, who has resigned. Video here.
      Sources told Inner City Press that Dinesh Mahtani, the finance expert on SEMG and previously on the DR Congo Sanctions group, was found requesting favors from a member state, to which the SEMG reports. Here is a document:
      a letter from Dinesh Mahtani, ostensibly in his SEMG role, saying that former Eritrean official Ali Abdu “has great potential to play a stabilizing role in Eritrea with the country possibly headed to an uncertain period in its history.”
      This is hardly the first controversy in the SEMG — but usually the members wait until they are off or on their way off the Monitor Group to “let it all hang out,” as one source put it of previous SEMG chair Matt Bryden.
      The current chair, Jarat Chopra, has faced complaints from Somalia, also exclusively reported by Inner City Press.
      Bryden’s departure was telegraphed in remarks to, and a report by, Inner City Press on July 24, 2012 when Security Council members from three countries gave Inner City Press exclusive and negative reviews of Bryden’s performance.
      “He’s leaving,” one of them said dismissively and definitely of Bryden. There was snarky speculation Bryden may have been angling for a book deal, or a post with a group like HRW.
      With Bryden the questions were larger of leaking, of micro-managing the Eritrean air force and more. Those about Mahtani, the sources tell Inner City Press, are “bigger… regime change on UN letterhead.” We’ll have more on this.
      Source: Inner Cit Press;

  • Hope

    oooh,does it mean that Hagois Kisha will go to Jail?–Hmmm..then what Yemane Monkey and FM Osman Salih?
    Very scary indeeded.

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Hi Hope,
      Not scary really, let them sink in the sinkhole they have created. These developments may be indications of the regime emploding and that is, of course, just good news for the oppressed Eritrean people.

  • Abinet

    It is interesting to know the former head of eritrean national bank was a bank robber. Rob a bank and join EPLF. How convenient ! Now he is in jail. Was he trying to rob his bank again? I like to know.
    I wonder how many of the EPLF leadership are former robbers,killers,rapists,criminals….

    • Haqi

      Pls have some respect, I know yemane and he is a decent, smart and one of the good guys among the many killers and corrupt thugs. Stealing from ménge and haileselasie isn’t a crime, its justice as far as I am concerned.

      • Abinet

        He didn’t steal from derg or Haileselase . He stole from Ethiopia .do you think it is ok to steal from eritrean banks? May be it is ok over there I dont know. You tell me. While you are at it , tell me it is ok to rob someone’s kidney also .
        Hope , how do you define justice?

        • Dawit Beyene

          Zey-Abinet,

          He did not steal money from Ethiopia. He just withdrew Eritrean money from Ethiopian bank.

      • Fetima Dechasa

        How convenient :).

        And so far as we Ethiopians are concern, a thief is a THIEF.

        Furthermore, respect is earned sir, not given… so show some respect to our history which includes our prior leaders and perhaps we will do the same in return.

        • Abinet

          Selam Fetima & Eyob
          A thief is a thief in Ethiopia. What is funny is we are expected to respect a person who robbed us and it is considered justice.
          Haile Menkorios was a hero when he took money laundering to a higher level using his embassy. Do we have to respect him?

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            I think the first thing one has to kill, when one makes a pact with these band of thugs (Afeworqi/Kisha or Menkorios) is integrity with in his/her own self….

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Selamta Abinet,

            Absolutely not!! What you are pointing out is what they call confirmatory bias or myside bias in American politics:

            “a tendency for people to favor information that confirms their preconceptions or hypotheses regardless of whether the information is true. As a result, people gather evidence and recall information from memory selectively, and interpret it in a biased way. The biases appear in particular for emotionally significant issues and for established beliefs.”

        • Semere Andom

          You guys are too much. Fine, he stole the money, but during that ugly period there was no room for taking high road, do anything that weakness your enemy, kill him while off guard, still his money while his hair is down. So you should agree that non of us chose the high road. You are getting excited about money stolen, how about people coming from the church and finding the lifeless bodies of their kids, victims of the red terror both Ethiopians and Eritreans. How about murdering entire villages because they fed couple of bandies. How about bombing civilians with the soviet jets? To our credits our ghedli never targeted Ethiopian civilians, although ironical it targeted Eritrean civilians. Ghedli treated Ethiopians prisoner of war better, far better than the Eritrean political prisoners, Ghedli epitomized by EPLF damaged Eritreans that Ethiopians. These comments show that you are not ashamed what your leaders.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Again, a fine display of confirmatory bias.

          • Hope

            Huh, truth hurts that much!

          • Semere Andom

            A man/woman of one liners
            So Eritreans were supposed to thank you for murdering them, if your leaders had brains the outcome would have been in your favor without that madness of lives lost in both sides.

          • Abinet

            Semere
            According to Gedab news, a certain person disappeared with $ 5 million of PFDJ / Eritrean money. Tell me it is ok and then tell me if you make him the next governor of Eritrean bank ?
            Semere, I’m sick and tired of Reading about Gedli . Don’t bring it here .gedli should be discussed between Eritreans only.

          • haileTG

            Abi…on the lighter side…

            …tell me if you make him the next governor of Eritrean bank ?

            Well…hmmm depends if he joins the opposition groups and gives the money to them 😉

            gedli should be discussed between Eritreans only.

            c’mon you were in it too, it wouldn’t be complete without you man 😉

            cheers

          • Abinet

            Haile the great
            I know you don’t make him a governor even if he brings back the money with interest and joined the opposition. It is more than money lost .it is about trust.
            Regarding Gedli,if I had discussed it before ,which I don’t think I did,must be a big mistake.
            Thanks

          • haileTG

            Hi again Abi

            Sorry, when I said “you were in it” I meant Ethiopia was in it. I wasn’t meaning you personally.

            You are right that I wound’t make the $5 m robber a bank gov. The problem is that you are comparing a Robin Hood (a heroic outlaw) in Yemane with Adam Tiler (a pickpocket’s accomplice, who takes the stolen goods and leaves with them.) in the guy in question. Not a fair comparison.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Abinet, I’m happy because one guy stole $ 5 mill. from the PFDJ coffers. Because I know that it will hurt the oppressor of the Eritrean people. By the same token I’m happy because someone during the liberation struggle stole money from the Ethiopian bank, and gave it to EPLF, because that hurt the enemy of the Eritrean people, the Dergue.

        • Haile WM

          respect for your prior leaders ? Seriously ? which leader is the one we should respect ? Menghistu hailemariam the genocidal ? Haile Silasie the medieval villian ? or Menelik the butcher of galla shankilla ? forget you prior leaders please … try harder on the new ones. Besides you are here commenting on “eritrean leaders” and i see no respect on your side Mr. fenchima Dechassa
          Cheers

    • Hope

      Mr Abinet,
      Back to your “Business” again,after we have had some relative peace here at Home.
      Let me ask you and give you a home work:
      -Please make a simple research about the 30-40 yrs of destruction by the EthiopianLeaders incurred upon eritrea as a Nation and Eritreans as a people.
      -Financially
      -Materially
      -Human Loss and damage
      PMMZ,R.I P,estimated it to be in a-two-figure billions of USD(more than 10 Billions)

      • Abinet

        Hope
        Whatever damage you claim the ethiopians did, your own government is doing worse in half the time . What an achievement to be proud of. God forbid if they stay another 20 years.
        It is always good to have a time tested excuse for every predicament Eritrea faces. Blame it on ethiopia.

    • Hope

      —–

      • Hope

        Abi,
        What about if Itell you that Ethiopia and Ethiopians were who looted and destroyed the Eritrean Economic,Finanacial and federaldemocratic Infra-structure?
        As a Courtesy,I chose to say the Ethiopian Leaders.

        • Fetima Dechasa

          ይችም እንጀራ ሆና ወጥ አማራት አሉ።

          • Hope

            Ms,Fetima Dechasa,
            Just answer my question as to how much Eritrea as a Nation, and Eritreans as a People, have been looted and destroyed by the Ethiopians and their Leaders for over 40yrs..
            Mr Yemane Tesfay did his job well as an Insider Rebel Fighter or Fedayeen.
            i did NOT know you can write and read in Amahric other thna in Oromifa/Oromugna,unless you are using a fake Oromo nick,as usual.
            Sayterut abiet,Saylikut wediet?
            Stay in the South and enjoy doing business with Kenya.

    • Eyob Medhane

      Abi,

      No no no no…He was not a bank robber, man. Get it right. He was just a thief. He just simply stole the money from where he used to work. This article actually tried to kind of put some ‘nice word’ on his thievery and called it ‘he grabbed’. See a bank robber actually dares, and usually they are men enough to hold up the bank, make a scene, some times get involved in a shoot out, you know, do some daring stuff. This chump ‘Kisha’ seems to be a simple ‘Kis Awlaqi’…. 🙂

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Yes, he stole the money from the Ethiopian bank so as to give it to the Eritrean Liberation struggle against Ethiopian occupation and destruction of Eritrea. If it was possible for me, I would steal all the money from the Ethiopian bank so as to leave the Dergue bankrupt, and facilitate the liberation of my country. Why is it surprising to you; don’t you know that your dictator Menghistu Hailemariam took all the money from your bank when he was running away from Addis?

    • Haile WM

      there you go again, trying to provoke us again and again. If i were you i would ask my self how many Hailesilasie era leaders were robbers rapists and criminals, i would ask my self how many derg leaders were robbers rapists and criminals and how many of the weyane regime are robbers killers and criminals. If i were you i would see that and kept my mouth shut with shame.

      It’s quite ironical that guys like you came here to lecture us about criminals and robbers. Please ask Menghistu how much money stole from your Ethiopia and went hiding in Mugabe’s courtyard to enjoy luxury at your back. You are quite used to sentences in absentia, so we don’t mind if you judge Yemane in absentia, guilty of robbing the reminder of what the ethiopian leaders leftover.

      Cheers

      • Abinet

        The difference is mengistu is hiding after he stole our money. Besides we never worshipped him. You are still complaining about our leaders while your leader is selling your people as a spare part,stealing young people from godana harnet just to sell them ,ruling as a slave owner in the 21st century, turning every breathing soul in to military and spying on each other, even controlling and manipulating those out side the country with a remote control. On top of that he stole every dime of the mining revenue that is produced by a slave labor. He created robotic slaves that support him nomatter what he does to their families and friends as long as they are allowed to dance the night away.
        And you are blaming dead leaders from centuries ago.
        You know what we say about IA in Ethiopia?
        “Wendun Hulu quch Adrigo ashenaw,akolashew “

        • Haile WM

          you see, I can complain about my leaders that’s up to me not you. You can’t lecture nobody about leaders of our respective countries that’s the point. You are entitled to your opinion but if your opinion coincide with that of the leaders such as Menghistu you are way over worshiping them, you actually kissing their behind.

          Besides it shows your maturity in bringing every-time you argue about the sufferings of the eritrean people to try to make your point, fact is you don’t have a point.
          I could start Easily listing the sufferings of ethiopian refugees but i don’t take pride in it i just see people that are suffering.
          As far as I am concerned you are Just like the robotic slaves you were mentioning, you just have the opposite master.

          You know what we say about your kind of nostalgic of menghistu era?

          “Yibehal ila dimu tequahila” i.e. repeat the same propaganda from DERG time officials… that’s all you can

          now… start blaming the arabs, accuse the EPLF of being wonbedewoch and so on… and your credibility is intact just like the old times.

          • Abinet

            mengistu was an equal opportunity killer. However, there are facts we don’t deny.
            When he was in power
            –there was an internationally accredited university
            –Eritreans don’t have to carry AK 47 when they go to church, or when they go to farming……
            —people participated in different sectors of the economy with salary paid
            –young people had hope
            Now they prefer the desert and the high seas than asmara city
            — mengistu as brutal as he was, he used to air lift merchandise to asmara
            — when he was in power , Eritreans were able to work or do business in every corner of Ethiopia. They were the creme of society.
            — they were not begging on the streets of asmara while carrying AK 47 .they can not even sale it to buy bread . Who buys it since you get it for free.
            Need I say more?
            All these under the brute.
            You can deny all of it . Nothing surprise me anymore. I’m happy we are separated
            ,hopefully, for good.
            I brought mengistu not because I liked him but to compare him with your excellency who brought only misery to his people in the name of keeping the independence of Eritrea ( the land)

          • Haile WM

            the difference between me and you is that i need to decide by my self and ready to pay for it. you on the other hand can’t go beyond you nose.
            — menghistu didn’t give us a university nor he has given you an education
            — eritreans did carry voluntarily the AK47 to get rid of menghistu
            — young people hoped you went out of our land peacefully
            — the joke of the day is airlifting to asmara merchandise… in fact i remember airlifting special unit killers such as “air weled”

            — the legacy of begging … i will spare you who’s the beggar by tradition … you don’t need to go to asmara to see beggars, just open your door in Addis …. (and you supposedly enjoying echonomic boom and demcracy) way to go brother ! ayzoh !

            I am more happier than you that we separated i can assure you that’s for good. although i still don’t understand why you are here commenting on issues that you hope are separeted for good 😉 ayzoh yenie wendim.

            Iseyas the tembienay is your kin and kith, infact he is being guarded by the DEMHIT, they are protecting him because he is afraid of eritreans 😉 I suggest you enroll in their lines to try easy your nostalgia.

            wendmhn ke mereb belay 🙂

          • Abinet

            Ha ha
            Keep IA the lion of NAKFA for yourself. He is your George Washington.
            The beggars in addis don’t carry AK47 . Thanks for your king you have them all over. When mengistu was in power there was no begging in asmara (. I was told).
            IA from Temben? Where were you for the last 50 years? So he is Agame? Or Adgi? You have no shame. So you have been ruled by guy from Tigray? All these years? You died for 50 years to get independence
            Just to be ruled by a Tigray?
            I better stop here until someone comes and tell me Idris Awate is from Axum.

          • Haile WM

            when menghistu was in power the beggars in asmara were people like you and it was plenty of them… the ex beggars now in addis they not only carry AK47, they have the power and decide for you fate..
            We thought IA was an eritrean given he was born in asmara, but at the end he showed his true colors, after all he is from the tembien family direct descendant of Hagos Mircha brother of Kasa Mircha (ask Eyob who is Kasa Mircha 🙂 ). some eritreans are starting to believe that actually the DEMHIT now protecting IA in Eritrea are the direct descendants of the bodyguards of Kassa Mircha… 😀 they are fulfilling their life mission… :D. Abi the lion of nakfa actually is the rat of tembien and please remember before calling the name of Idris Awate you should bow and show some deference.
            Cheers

          • destaa

            guys (Abinet and Haile) I have to say that your argument here is a typical one which I know from my area in Ethiopia. I wonder how a foreigner would have laughed on both of you. I think it is Abinet who provoked first and I have to be fair to you Haile that you responded to him. Dear Abinet, where do you live? It is true Ethiopia is having fast expansion in its economy while Eritrea is in a serious problem excluded from the world (I mean we are getting a very huge aid and Eritreans have no aid money. Their youth is leaving in huge number). But Ethiopia is still the second poorest nation in the world (Oxford study). I believe things for Ethiopia could change if those big infrastructures (railway and power…) are completed. But, still we are not in a position to attack others. And I actually believe this is one sign of poverty. There is no need to attack each other while the world is making fun of us. Wake up people.

          • Haile WM

            i tried that argument before with abinet but he fails to understand it 🙂 we are two poor nations and we yet there trying to make fun out of each others misery.
            so i just reply foolishly to abinet, just to give him his medicine.. nothing serious destaa and no offence to other respectful members in this forum.
            Cheers

          • Nitricc

            Destaaa, Abinet is the few ignorant Ethiopians who are so prude to be baggers. Although, this is not Abnet’s fault, he lives in C town where working for a pay check is considering sighting UFO. There is a reason Ethiopia is the 2nd poorest country in the world because Ethiopia is the 2nd largest aid accepter. You see, nothing is free.
            Look at this picture and tell me if you don’t mistake it some where in Europe and the US. This is the results of Aid free society. Look at the white people, keep looking. Exactly my point.
            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-
            TerEE8fH4Ok/VDPmb5maP7I/AAAAAAAAHBc/dGBF61WRjaY/s1600/Eritrean+Miners+-+Bisha.jpg

          • Abinet

            Is that a prison ? You see the “x” mark at their back? Try to run away and you will find a bullet right in the middle .
            Shame! If I were you I would remove it . It is not something to be proud of specially in a country where a “shoot to kill ” policy is in effect.

          • Abinet

            Selam Destaa
            I was not comparing ethiopia with eritrea at all . I was comparing mengistu’s time eritrea with the current situation. I know we both are all poor. It is because we spent the last 50 years fighting against each other than fighting poverty. Very unfortunate .

          • Abinet

            Are you telling me the ex beggars are ruling two countries at once. Now I have more respect for them than ever before.
            BTW, what did you feel when you knew IA is not Eritrean? Anger, shame, disbelief,…
            Do you think the DEMHT are taking over the country? I heard these ex beggars are making babies left and right since your men are not around.
            “Kemote anbessa likiskis wusha yishalal ” yilal yagere sew .

          • Haile WM

            ha ha ha abinet you’r quite funny. Seriusly you should focus on more important things than asking who father this baby and that baby, i mean unless you have some issues on that front…
            IA is not your problem but ours, focus on your problems right now and the DEMHIT might be your problem soon.
            Cheers

        • Haile WM

          btw Abi,

          do you know anything about TPLF robbing banks in the 80’s ? i heard something to that effect but i am not sure about it 😉

          one thing for sure i know TPLF were robbing aid intended to famine stricken people of ethiopia
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/comp-reports/ecu/ecu_bandaidmoneydonatedethiopia

          Goosh yenie lij
          next time do your homework properly.

          • Abinet

            I just learn it from Feven. I think it is a time tested method to finance a gorilla war.
            Who is next ?

    • Nitricc

      ” I wonder how many of the EPLF leadership are former robbers,killers,rapists,criminals….”
      WHAT IS AMAZING is those crminals not only beat your behind but left you landlocked your 90 million begging. now, when Zeai Deress; did his thing in Italy in your Ethiopian name, was he a terrorist or a hero?
      I know you have guts to answer the freaking question. if you are not the typical Weyane Aqatari then answer it.

      • Abinet

        He was a hero .he is always in our hearts. Don’t forget Abraha Deboch and other heroes who made us proud.
        “Ager siyarej jart yabeqlal” hone enji negeru.

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