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Djibouti Objects to the Lifting Of UN Sanctions on Eritrea

In a press statement he released on July 10, 2018, the Council President Olof Skoog (Sweden) stated, “The members of the Security Council commended the signing of the Joint Declaration of Peace and Friendship on 9 July 2018 by the President of the State of Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, and the Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, Dr. Abiy Ahmed.

The statement indicated, that, “The members of the Security Council commended the signing of the Joint Declaration of Peace and Friendship on 9 July 2018 by the President of the State of Eritrea, Isaias Afwerki, and the Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, Dr. Abiy Ahmed. “

The Ethiopian Prime minister Dr. Abiy Ahmed had promised to help lift the UN sanctions imposed on Eritrea for its alleged role in destabilizing the region by supporting the Somali Al Shabab Group, hosting armed Ethiopian opposition groups, and for its alleged aggression against Djibouti.

In its last report, the Somalia-Eritrea Monitoring Group under the leadership of Kairat Umarov had reported that after four years of investigations, it could not find evidence that Eritrea was still supporting the Al Shabab Group.

At the moment, it seems several Ethiopian armed groups that Eritrea hosted have returned to Ethiopia while others are about to leave the country to be legitimately involved in their country’s political affairs.

As he promised, ten days ago the Ethiopian prime minister handed the visiting UN Chief Antonio Guterres, an official letter requesting the UN to lift the sanctions imposed on Eritrea. Guterres reportedly said, “ the Security Council would soon lift the sanctions.”

According to diplomatic sources in New York, in the last meeting of the Security Council, Djibouti, reminded the Council that the reasons of the sanctions were not the Ethiopian Eritrea border problems, and the sanctions should only be lifted or continued for the reasons they were imposed.

Djibouti has the support of the African Block, including Equatorial Guinea and Ivory Coast, and Somalia,

At the same time, China, Britain, and the USA voted against lifting the sanctions while Sweden, which is heading the Security Council, lightly lined up with Djibouti.

The position of China is believed to be driven by its investments in the port of Gwadar in Western Pakistan, a port that is expected to compete with Jebel Ali and Dubai in the UAE.

Since China started the Gwadar project, the UAE, using its spearhead entity Dubai Ports World,  has been expanding in the Red Sea and the Horn of Africa to ameliorate the choke that threatens it Ports. Gwadar will be connected to the Chinese Silk Road that cuts through China, and further connects to a railroad system that extends to Western Europe. The railways will also connect Gowdar to the bustling international shipping routes that crisscross the Soth China a, the Indian Ocean, the Arabian Sea, and the Red Sea.

Gowdar is located a short distance east of the entrance to the straits of Hurmuz and the Arabian Gulf, the only sea passage for Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, and the UAE. According to open democracy. net, Gowdar has recently “caused a silent economic war in the Gulf of Oman between two groups of countries. Pakistan, China and Qatar on one side. India and the UAE on the other.”

China is also believed to be concerned about the fate of its huge investments in Djibouti and the Horn of Africa, where it sees the UAE–which has occupied Yemen, established a presence in Asab, Eritrea, and Somaliland–as a major distraction to its plans for Africa which it has been nurturing for decades.

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  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Interesting article just came out on mareeg.com with copy of Djibouti Press Release ‘Djibouti slams Somalia for calling lifting UN sanctions on Eritrea’.

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    Tegadalai Mahmud Saleh and Responds to Tegadalai Mesfin Hagos
    MS justifies IA’s desire to have a joint government because EPLF was under stress
    MS did not critiize IA
    MS justice the 1978 negotiation with Dergi, a negotiation that excludes ELF. ELF was a formidable org that was a representative of Eritrea
    MS has nothing to say about the single handed that IA is conducting without consulting the Eritrea people and hankers on the triviality of telephone, airline flying.He asks a good question: why did you keep it until now
    MS complains that MH never raised the issue of IA when MS met him and had good elal
    MS implores MH to clarify
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjG1DBpaLc

    • Hope

      iSem:
      Tegadalay Mahmuday Salih has done a SUPERB job on that regard !
      Are jealous or mad?

      I wish that Excellent constructive analysis and Rebuttal is posted here.
      Aside from your confusing and meek sarcasm,show me your gut and courage to refute or challenge what the Good Vet said in all his Articles!

      I congratulate him for his serious attempts and contributions to clear up the confusing confusions created by you and your likes!

      • iSem

        Hi uncle Hope:
        Akejah, Akejah, Akejah
        MS has nothing to say about the peace deal except praise it
        Yea even if the clouds of war have been lifted between Eri and Ethi, wars do not start themselves, guns do not shoot themselves, leaders order them, so it is the behavior of IA that is the problem. Eris will not perish in war with Ethiopia but hey may die in Yemen and war between other neighbors

        So MS as a vet should have shed some light on that instead of congratulating IA for a peace deal he rejected for 18 years
        MS is criticizing MH for delaying the information,ok fair enogh but if had done the same with the guy who writing the future of the country I would respect that, but MS is not.MS is not in power

        • Hope

          Selam iSem:
          U know I could debate with u in a serious way but if my responses and comments are thrown into trash can and blocked,there is no point of debating u.
          My short message to u:
          Please STOP your old-styled and expired mumbo-jumbo toxic propaganda to spoil the peacecwe have longed for.

          -You will never win against PIA by simply crying loud and with empty bravado and by regurgitating old 45-50 yrs old stories .

          -There should be a better Modus Operandi and Strategy to fight PIA before he even strengthens his power with billions of $ on board.
          We do not need old stories we are fully aware of but we have to walk the talk .

          How do we do that?
          That should be your home work rather than crying crocodile tears about old stories.
          As far as Vet Mahmuday is concerned,he has done his job way beyond what he was and is expected to do.
          Mahmuday is not OA or MH but an innocent Tegadalay along with the other 99.9% of the EPLF Tegadelti,who sacrificed their youth lives.
          He is doing beyond what he could do .

          But can u do better than shouting and cursing this and that like a Street Schizophrenic patient wondering and hallucinating on the streets?

          We got enough about who IA is and what he has done or didn’t do!
          What we need now is that,since we belatedly diagnosed who IA and what he does and intends to do,to work hard as to what can we do to cure that illness once and for all and what preemptive measures we can apply to prevent further mess.
          As far as the Yemen Crisis is concerned,now you started another war and fear-mongering propaganda Front that IA will open another War Front in Yemen and will kill Eritreans!

          But remember also that it was IA ,who suggested for a Peaceful,Political and Diplomatic Solution way before the hellish and inhumane campaign was started but U were mute at that time coz you didn’t want to give credit to PIA.
          Granted,interest matters andcPIA did what he did to bring Eritrea out from the COLD and he has succeeded in doing so miraculously and the Ethio-Eritrea Peace Process most likely is the extension or the outcome of that Epic Strategy,me thinks!

          Good for u but your focus should be as to how to prevent IA from doing that.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; it is amazing reading all this maddens; Well here what the good man has said all the way back 2009.Stop your nonsense and learn.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1TF7cxzOQ4

    • saay7

      Nitriccay:

      Oh how prophetic that was, literally months before his government got the country sanctioned. That was 9 years ago, of Sebhat Ephrem saying “Weyane is dead.” It turns out it was the man himself who was politically dead, frozen, and his position left vacant while the country was allegedly in a state of war. and the only reason you are bringing him back now is because 03 is saying he is coming back and if for whatever reason Isaias arrests him, you would not dare share this video.

      saay

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Saay, what is unbelievable is that they have a ministry called ministry of defense without a minister, not for few weeks but for many years.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Abraham,

          Since the second organizational congress that replaced Ramadan Mohammed Nur by Isayas Afewerki as general secretary general of the front/party, all executive functions were filled by a single person: the secretary general. All executive decision making were done by him and the rest were ተሓጋገዝቲ ዋና ጸሓፊ without necessarily spelling it out. The job of nominal ministers was to pass orders and decisions down the rungs of relevant bureaucracy. So, any ministry can remain unfilled for indefinite time because nothing will change. There is a standing minister in the person of the secretary genera who can pick any person to hand over orders and decision and receive reports. Yemane Monkey is the one who does that.

      • iSem

        hi Sal:
        Actually it is not prophetic: Ethiopia did not fail, Abiye postponed that. And they predicted that Ethiopia under TPLF will fail after indpendence, MZ potponted that. PFDJ thinks it won, but it is all Deja vu all, when IA/PFDJ refused the peace deal until Ethiopia made to Barenu and Senafe (how is Senafe from Asmara) and PFDJ were preparing ppl through 03 that they can fight it from Sahel like before they accepted the peace process and now they are doing the same accepting the peace deal from point of weakness

      • Ismail AA

        Selam saay7,
        You don’t anticipate a response, do you?

      • Nitricc

        Hey SAAY; i will ask you one question and i will follow up tomorrow. i need your honest opinion. Do you think Ethiopia will ask for peace by accepting the border thing unconditionally if Eritrea was week and dysfunctional? Let’s talk real.

        • saay7

          Hi Nitricc: I am afraid that is probably not possible as we don’t have a common understanding of “Eritrea” (to you it’s just the government and not the people); “weak” (to you it’s military might, alleged at that; to me it is an entire populations state of hopelessness and destitution); or “functional” (to you it’s government control of all its territories and people; to me it is a society that can function without individuals at its helm). But we can try.

          saay

  • iSem

    Ok Alex
    what will the Eritreans do: The Eritreans of today kept quite when IA proposed the joint government, they kept quite when he snatched their kids, they kept quite when tIA kidnapped their underage kids to sawa to be raped, they kept quite when the disabled were shot at. So are you saying that there will be an uprising if IA said from now Eritrea is part of Adey Ethiopia?
    He told you: we have lost nothing in the 20 years, how about 20k dead, we are one ppl, borders are irrelevant, in a normal country IA would have been arrested in Asmara airport upon is return But this is the making of the PFDJ and IA, Eritreans were not like that, they dared Dergi, they killed him from inside, they destroyed his war panes,they freed 1000 prisoners, they assassinated spies in the belly of Asamra. That was then, this is now. But we will claim that. But IA just said it and nothing happens to him, it is between the lines now, soon it will be .
    No one underestimating Eritreans,u are sanitizing the damage Of IA on our ppl to make them zombies, u see say what u will about ur former lover TPLF, they made thing that allowed the uprising,that in turn allowed Abiye to emerge

  • ‘Gheteb

    The Assab Rigmarole

    Greetings!!

    The Assab saga as it pertains to Ethiopia and Eritrea keeps getting absurdly long and rambling that it is pretty much turning into a shaggy-dog story. Some have gone to yarning a lengthy spiel where we are expected to believe that the Ethiopian Prime Minister, Dr. Abey has become the latter-day Giuseppe Sapeto and PIA some sort of an Afari Sultan where the former has bought Assab from the later and, finally, Ethiopia owns the port of Assab.

    You may think I am exaggerating, but I am not. Many a Eritrean imbibes such an utter folderol because confirming their CONFIRMATION BIAS and strengthening their previously held beliefs. Believe it or not, in 2011, there were reports and rumors circulating that Eritrea and Ethiopia held sub-rosa meetings in which Eritrea was going to sell the port of Assab for ONE BILLION DOLLARS. And, you know how that rumor ended.

    In a similar vein, we are hearing an almost identical iteration about the Assab rigmarole. However, this time we have information that clears up all the smog, dust and confusion that was engendered by this lengthy tale.

    From the linked Youtube video, note that:

    A) When it comes to Ethiopia’s use of the port of Assab, it is going to be business as usual.

    B) Ethiopia is going to utilize the available port facilities of Assab immediately. No waiting for an upgrade or improvements of equipments.

    C) Ethiopia and Eritrea may jointly upgrade the port of Assab. Nothing new here nor is there anything to imply that Ethiopia is going to get unfair advantage. Ethiopia has agreed with both Somalia and Sudan in these joint ports upgrade.

    C) There is nothing solid indication that Ethiopia is going to get UNLIMITED ACCESS to the Eritrean ports, Assab or Massawa as has been wildly reported by those who are involved in rumor mongering.

    Well, you need to hear it from the man, from the Ethiopian maritime authority, where he EXPLICITLY states that the port services transaction will based on accepted international procedures.

    https://youtu.be/qCyhVS3qg54

    • saay7

      Selamat Gheteb:

      Never heard the 2011 rumor about the 1 billion sale of Asab. It looks like one of those rumors PFDJ invents just to deny it.

      But that’s not what interests me. What fascinates me, in a sad way, is the diminishing expectations of your average PFDJ supporter (aka Isaiasist):

      1. You are not expecting your gov to consult you or your representative before it develops a policy;
      2. You are not asking it to ratify this treaty via a parliament made up of your representatives. Or party. Or some institution.
      3. You are not asking it to explain it to you in a meeting with you
      4. You are not even asking it to have an independent media to bring it independent analysts to discuss it
      5. And now, at long last, you are NOT even asking its single State media to tell you about it,
      6. No. You will take the Ethiopian explanation for it. Why? Because Isaias told you it’s ok now to do so.

      The game of diminishing expectations and returns keeps shrinking. And your energy is focused on those who said use of Asab for Ethiopia is unlimited. Shouldn’t you be demanding of your government to see it?

      saay

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        With respect to the rumor of the sale of Assab to the tune of ONE BILLION Dollars and your claim that ” you never heard of” because ” It looks like one of those rumors PFDJ invents just to deny it”, check the link below and see if it attests to the fact that if such a rumor was swirling in 2011.

        http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-940368

        You have enumerated six aspects of “the diminished expectation” of the “Isaiasist”, “PFDJists”, “cultists”, ‘Hgdfites” from their government. You are expecting these “Isaiasists” and hold PIA’s feet to the fire and demand accountability through parliamentary representation, transparency through free media and consultation through access to ones representative.

        Oh my stars and garters! Oh my stars and garters!! Oh my stars and garters!!

        Since when did Eritrea turn and became a Jeffersonian democracy? Is it led by a government that subscribes to Safire-esque libertarianism? One never knows if we are speaking of the same country called Eritrea these days.

        What you and your camp have failed is to show us the evidence that Assab has been sold to Ethiopia by “IA”. Have you guys stopped your mission of “enlightening and informing” us, I mean the mere Eritrean mortals?

        • saay7

          Cuz Gheteb:

          Give one of your famous titles to explain the following phenomenon of the Eritrean parliament or iSem or PEACE will have to volunteer:

          Political prisoners: it wasn’t IA! It was Eritrea’s Parliament that authorized him to keep them in detention indefinitely. That’s the will of the people.

          Check and Balance: Since when are we Jeffersonian democracy? We don’t have a parliament or a constitution thanks to Hasadat Weyane.

          Aye enda hgdef.

          I will have to check the CNN piece to see whether the news was leaked by wedi Kassa or wedi Simon. 25% of their job is leaking false info to confuse an opposition, which is dead and doesn’t exist and is now in the past past tense. But it still manages to account for most of what the hgdefifes and closet hgdefites write. Long live the dead opposition to tyranny 🙂

          Saay

        • saay7

          Cuz Gheteb:

          We have a news update.

          The “CNN” link you found to discuss the sale of Asab was actually “iCNN”; the difference between “BBC” and “BBC World Monitoring”. It’s scooping up of what world media says.

          So this one you linked was posted by someone called “Ethiopiawinet” and he was relying on “Our EPPF Source in Asmara- info@eppf.net.” And who is EPPF? That would be the Ethiopian Peoples Patriotic Front. You know, the Arbenoch guys your 2% was going to so they can overthrow the Ethiopian government.

          So, yep, Wedi Kassa. And it makes sense you were reading all about it, and I never heard of it, because you were tracking the military progress of EPPF: man has gotta see a return on his investment 🙂

          Saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            The mere mortals are eagerly awaiting to be INFORMED and ENLIGHTENED by those who love to sport the appellation “The Eritrean opposition forces” whose main goal is, yes, to inform the Eritrean public.

            The Eritrean public wants to know about the sale of Assab and the unlimited access to the red sea that Ethiopia is going to have. Can you tell the Eritrean people what “IA” is refusing to tell them and forget about parliament and balance of power and all the pie in the sky stuff that one hears from the likes of “The Heritage Foundation”.

            Speaking of “IA”, based on his Kbromness report, should have landed in Saudi Arabia on Saturday? Hmm…mmm and Yemane Gheberab along with the up-and-coming 14 PFDJ cadres who are deemed to be the heir apparents of the agining PFDJ leaders should be in Washington,DC. Again, Hmmm…mmm…mmm…

          • saay7

            Happy Sunday Cuz:

            The opposition (the dead opposition, the so called opposition, etc) informs the people the news that their government is not informing them. My SurveyMonkey shows that more Eritreans in eritrea listen to Erena radio than Dimxi Hafash. (You may do your own survey and validate.)

            But your hgdef says democracy is not just about elections and stuffing ballot boxes. It is about people participating in decision making process. That is in Surat al II-1 and Surat al III-1 of Al National Charter Al Kareeem. So, since you as a devout PFDJ member (a senior one at that) have this holy book (which survived the dead constitution) that tells us how you do things, and you are not, all I am doing is saying that you are sinners or the book is….um…not like the ones found in drawers of my hotel room?

            On IA arrival, the way news travels (as you should have learned from his last visit to UAE) is first Kbrom tells us, then the joint UAE-Saudi media outlet they formed (part of their Five Pillar or Five Point Agreement) tells us, then Tesfanews publishes it, then you share it. ተሰራዕ ብፃይ 🙂

            The preparations for PFDJ-II? Can you stop rushing kbur ato kbrom? You know the festival is for fund-raising; the real business happens behind closed doors.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            Yeah, sure, his Kbromness is yet again caught with his hands in the cookie jar and his Sancho Panza, “the dexterous SAAY”, or is it ” the consummate SAAY”, per the one with the Tweeter account, Wulad 09, doesn’t offer further elucidation.

            I brought PIA’s trip to Saudi Arabia to make a serious point about those whose mission as opposition group is to INFORM and Enlighten the Eritrean people. The point is that your timing is completely out of whack either by 48 or 24 hours. That is you are either a day behind or two days ahead.

            His Kibromness, the “stringer” of this Forum, in his zeal and being a denizen of PLANET ILLOGIC has PIA arrive at KSA 48 hours earlier.

            By all indications, I am of the belief that PIA will arrive at KSA tomorrow, Monday, 7/23/2018 on an official visit and not the way your Kbrom has described. I don’t think that PMAA is expected to go to KSA soon as he is coming to the US this coming Thursday. Just to let you see how much dust that the “stringer” leaves behind.

            BTW, you may want to check the kiddie website, Tesfanews for more details about PIA’s visit to KSA. You may need to check it for more details and that is where I got the news. Hmmm….mmm..

            Are you saying that Yemane Ghebreab and the delegation composed of 14 PFDJ cadres are hiding in Washington, DC and conducting their business behind the scene? Again, Hmmm…. Hmmm…

          • saay7

            Cuz:

            Nah, you are trying too hard. Kbrom is reliable: it’s not his fault that he works fast and you are in GST. (G for Gobye).

            I still need my special hat for Sancho Panza. I don’t even want to ruin it by looking it up and knowing what it means.

            Saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            So, now you are blaming all the unconfirmed smog of tidbits that his Kbromness pollutes this Forum on his “long lost cousin” the proverbial bunny or rabbit?

            Or, are we going to hear more of what your pal , Qeshi Amanuel, is alleging that because Semere Ruessom, the prospective ambassador to Ethiopia is assigned to Ethiopia because jis , Semer’s, uncle was a UNIONIST during the Haile Selasie regime. Like uncle, like nephew is the “logic” pushed through in the land of PLANET ILLOGIC.

            No one should blame the Eritrean opposition for not “INFORMING’ and ‘ENLIGHTENING” the Eritrean people.

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb:

            I don’t know what your obsession is with Kbrom. If he is wrong, the whole readers will know he is wrong and ignore him. If he is right, we will await eagerly for his posts. Problem solved. Why are you trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist?

            Shouldn’t you answer the questions I posed? Instead of taking your government to task, you get busy with the imperfections of those who are trying to take it to task.

            The Embaye Hadera connection is uninteresting to me because I am not wired that way: I don’t even know how you and I are related and if you tell me I will forget. But to those to whom these things matter, it is interesting. And if it doesn’t interest you, skip it and don’t think of it as a defining quality of all opposition.

            saay

          • Blink

            Dear Gheteb
            Do we have any information about the Egyptian soldiers who were stationed around sawa too ? Just a reminder to the top informant.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Saay,

        The PFDJites don’t know more than what in the oppositions know as to what is going on in our country. Did you notice all your Cuz’s sources of info are Ethiopia news outlets or from Ginbot-7 and ESAT who are anti-Eritrean self-determination and Eritrean independence.

    • FishMilk

      Hi Gheteb. When hearing this completely BS talk about Assab being sold, confederation, unionist, etc.; I just have to remind myself that the 10 or so posters here with Major Depressive Disorder (MDD), which has resulted from the recent Ethio-Eri peace agreement, are simply disconnected from realities on ground and do not (in any way, shape or form) represent current popular Eritrean opinion.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi FishMilk,

        Well said and I concur!

      • iSem

        hi Fish Milk:
        the way I read you, u are so blind hat you will not even realize even if IA sells yous, you will deny it saying that he sent you for vacation and when he tells u I have sold you, you will reply that if it is for the sake of Eritrean Sovereignty then it is fine

  • Kbrom

    Hi All

    1. There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full said once upon a time Mr Henry Kissinger.

    Three weeks without ምንግራምን ባእስን was too long time for PIA so lets have one:

    MOI Press Release; The EU: Crocodile Tears on Migration 21 July 2018.

    2. On the other hand the real ምቕሉል መራሒና in Arat Kilo is telling us what to do with our ports. After reminding us that not the EEBC decision but ‘Re-Accessing Assab – Centrepiece of Rekindling Ethio – Eritrea’s Tie, PMAA is telling us through it’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs (sorry our Ministry of Foreign Affairs because he was also assigned as FA as Saleh Johar reminded us in his latest Negarit) has announced that the works have begun on both sides to repair roads and facilitate the service while a task force has been formed from Ethiopian side to preside over activities

    • Alex

      Hi Kbrom,

      Eritrean foreign minster Osman Saleh stated last Wednesday on his welcoming speech at Asmara palace hotel to Ethiopians who came with the first flight that Eritrea already start fixing the road that takes to assab port inside Eritrea.

      • Hope

        Alex:
        Read also Gheteb’s Reoort based on the Horse’s Mouth Report from the Maritime Services of Ethiopia,when the Director was interviewed by the. EBC or FANA TV Journalist,apparently clear up the confusion and toxic propaganda by the failed Opposition.

        I think the so called Opposition is going banana!

  • Saleh Johar

    HI Hope,

    I understand your frustration and I purposely inflicted it on you because you abused my silence for too long time despite my pleading to you to stop. I will yield to your request to cease on the following conditions.

    One: Many times I have asked and warned you if you do not stop pestering me, I will respond in kind because I knew you will feel the same way I feel (forum members can testify). Now that you got the message, there is no point in continuing it. Leave me alone, and I will leave you alone. Pester me, and you get the same treatment, maybe worse.

    Two: Stop disrespecting the moderators and do not blame them for anything that goes wrong with you.

    Three: No one at awate.com gives anyone a special treatment, and when we engage, it’s in our individual capacity. Moderators, Awate Team, etc never engage in their official capacity. So, get off their heads and everything will be fine.

    As of today, I will not pester you (I am admitting I was because you ignored my repeated appeal to you, to stop pestering me. Nw that you felt is, I have no problem with you. And if you wish for a truce, I will yield. I will hold my peace. I hope you do the same

  • Saba

    Dear aLL
    They say “Kab GuYiY MeWAL KiSaD MiHaz”. Let’s believe all the conspiracies and say PIA wants to unite Ethiopia with Eritrea to be ONE country, and PIA the king of Ze Ethiopia, can he do that without people’s consent? Since both Eritrea and Ethiopia are members of the UN. Is there a precedence? And what is in it for PMAA?

    • ‘Gheteb

      Selam Saba,

      You got it right here. “Kab GuYiY MeWAL KiSaD MiHaz”, indeed! Let me try to answer the question you posed below.

      PIA talked about CONFEDERATION and the insignificance of national borders in the mid 90s after Eritrea gained it’s independence. Confederation not only with Ethiopia, bit in the wider East African context a la IGAD was what PIA had in mind.

      I have not seen any documented evidence that there was a PLAN B whereby the EPLF and Isaias were going to settle for less than independence. Even in the most difficult time, eg. after the strategic withdrawal late 70s to mid 80s, the EPLF and Isaias were not amenable to any offer that didn’t honor Eritreans right to self-determination that didn’t accept EPLF’s Referendum Proposal.

      • Saba

        Selam ‘Gheteb,
        Thank you for the clear and to the point reply.
        It is difficult to follow a conspiracy to the conspiracy.

    • iSem

      Hi Saba:
      It is funny to see you talking to yourself, that is would not a problem it only becomes one when you answer to yourself.
      You talking to yourself and answering yourself by saying since Eritrea is UN member IA cannot unite it with Ethiopia is absurd. The UN thing wlil only apply if
      Ethiopia invaded Eritrea and united it by force and you guys should know that because you complain about UN’s silence when HS did that
      But IA can unite Eritrea with Ethiopia in a whim and what would UN do, sanction IA?
      Your logic is so “planetized”. So tell me what would UN do, if IA says we are one country and I will be the VP and PMAA will lead both countries now as one?

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam isem
        5 years ago i have seen pmHd and Sudan’s omer albashir standing on the moving truck and chanting along the people ethiopia wa sudan” wahid wahid” . and i also have seen a lot of heads of states do that kind of thing after they sign treaty so do u think is there any different between 3A and PIA except they just came out of cold war after 20 years? By the way apologize for the last time, respect ur orientation.

        • iSem

          Hi Teros:
          Bashir did not say to PMD u can use Port Sudan and roam sudan without any permission or, and we do not need borders,he said Wahid ( united) not one people. And they did not come of a bloody war, totally different. IA said we never lost anything, listen to the linke Sal posted of a young girl named Rumana: did not they took as to war so our borders would be free.
          It Ridiculous analogy
          And apologize for what???/

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam isem
            Actually bashir , kenya, formago and Djibouti already signed port deal with 3A and ethio wa sudan wahida wahid means ethio and sudan r 1.
            I think all the speech PIA and 3A and all the gov media tried to do was sending message of peace to the peoples of both nations(supporters of gov) that say the animosity is over and we r at peace and reverse ur negative psychology to that of positive ,

      • Saba

        iSem,
        Sorry if my question seems absurd to you. If you read carefully i am not answering the question myself. I am asking the question because i do not know for sure. I was expecting a scholar who can cite from the UN charter or rules etc.
        Eritrea was not a UN member during HS.

        • iSem

          Hi Saba:
          Yes, Eri was not a member of UN, but a UN mandated frame work was violated and u guys complain about it and in this scenario, Ethiopia is not forcing Eritrea to unite. Its own dictator is and in a whim decided to be one whatever, so my question is to u is what would the UN do in that case: issue press releases asking IA to stop it, sanction IA, send peace keepers, what can the UN do.
          If Ethiopia in 1998 war invaded Eritrea and occupied it that is of course different story and u may be right, it cannot, could not, should not do that to a UN member. The rules of UN is handy when ever u want it and not applicable when u do not want it according u guys. According to the UN IA should not disappear people for 18 years, should not arrest journalists. so what say your alter ego, Gheteb, ipsum interrogate (ask him please)

          • Selam iSem,

            In this broad discussion on peace, economic integration, and even ‘union’ (God save ethiopia and eritrea from this madness), i am not sure if anybody mentions in this affair the other 50% of the eritrean population, the muslim-lowlanders, who were against ‘union’ in the past more than anybody else, and they were the ones who started the war of independence.

            Dia (the constitution, the parliament,… the lone wolf in eritrean politics) may have a midsummer paranoia, and he may entertain ‘union’, nevertheless, does it mean that PMAA will accept it so easily? Such things require at least a referendum, and the UN may need to know the wish of the people, so that it is legal.

            The chance ‘union’ will pass a referendum is non-existent. Muslim-lowlanders are 100% against it, a large percentage of highland eritreans are against it, then, how could ethiopia and the UN accept a one-man decision and impose it on the people by ignoring their wish?

            I think that it is more of a rumor than anything real, and I hope that both people do not make the same mistake for the second time, which they will regret very soon.

          • iSem

            Hi Kim:
            Nice: IA will not have the respect to hold refurendum, Eritereans like me find MH revelation shocking, not that IA proposed but the leaders were so quite, so impotent, so fearful to ask, This is shocking and they were so naive to write the letter that landed them in Ela-Ero, they had no power, what were they thinkin knowing, afraid from him
            The reason we do not have the army topple IA is not because they are cowards, but they are not equipped, Eriteran army is not ur normal army. the national army is under especial army: well fed, well paid, well trained mercenary army that answer to and protects IA. These elite mercenary army sleep on their beds, get paid in USD, they see their kids and life could not get better. So IA is protected, otherwise he cannot just blackmail Fillipos and arrest Berhane and Ogbe and get away with it
            So, if he hold refuredum, no problem, it will take time, ppl will debate and we will live by the vote, he will just do it like he does all things
            About PMMA not accepting it, as I said,it is not going to be official, Some are salivating now thinking they got Eri back and they got it back, Eritreans pastors are in prisons , but ethiopian pator prays in Asmara and soon prophet Surafiel will preach in Asmara while our pastors are in prison. This is the union am taking about , not the one conduct through votes

    • Nitricc

      Hi Saba; here is general Wedi-Ehrem talking about the likes of semere Ewur and desebel sinkul and the rest of the losers.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXM7ovbZz0

      • iSem

        Hi Nitricc:
        I maybe Eur, I wear glasses, but am not retarded and I grew up with my 6 siblings and mother and father,not in a ghetto. So go learn manners

      • Desbele

        Nitricc,
        ቤት ጽሕፈት ከይኹርዩልካ፤ ብጀኻ ኢሳያስ ነቢይ የለን።
        ግዳ ኣብዚ ኔኻ ብስራት ካብ ሓርበኛ ወያናይ ኣቶ ተወልደ ገብረማርያም( Ethiopian Airline CEO)
        “የኢትዮጵያ አየር መንገድ ዋና ሥራ አስፈጻሚ አቶ ተወልደ ገብረ ማርያም የአየር መንገዱ ዋና ዓላማ ተቆራርጦ የቆየውን የኢትዮጵያና ኤርትራ ሕዝብ ማገናኘት እንደሆነ ገልጸዋል፡፡ ‹‹የኢትዮጵያ አየር መንገድ አፍሪካን ከመላው ዓለም ሲያገናኝ ወንድም የሆነው የኤርትራ ሕዝብ በዚህ ተጠቃሚ ሳይሆን ቆይቷል፡፡ አስመራን የምናገናኛት ከአዲስ አበባ ብቻ ሳይሆን በአምስት አኅጉሮች ካሉን 114 ዓለም አቀፍ መዳረሻዎች ጋር ነው፡፡ አሁን ኤርትራ ከዓለም ጋር ተገናኝታለች፤›› ብለዋል፡፡”
        ኣርከበ ከኣ ንባሮት ነበር ኣሕዋትኻ ናይ ስራሕ ዕድል ይህቦም ኣሎ ኣብ ሃዋሳ.
        Growing up in Ghetto you may not know the word “Thank you” . It is for this kind of good work that you say it , okay

  • ‘Gheteb

    Wo Wed Ad, Melehey Hope,

    Thank you for the response. I just completed reading it. No need for apologies as I know you are one of the truest Eritrean nationalists.

    I understand where you are coming from. Hopefully, the unfolding peace between Eritrea and Ethiopia will hold and we will witness a reform in Eritrea that will usher a prosperous and democratic Eritrea.

    Thanks for your thoughtful input!

  • Blink

    Dear Now
    No,what I am saying is
    A, Ethiopian government can look in to hidden hard currency than digging deep down to the ground to find oil.
    B.Hayat is a TPLF propagandist

  • iSem

    Hi Hope:
    No Gabir was not assassinated, it was unfortunate accident, so stop the voices uncle hope
    The point he IA has sold Eri, he never tells us what he is doing. If u do not get that, then I refer u to Maryam DeArit
    the rest of ur comment is none-sense

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi iSem,
      Leave the beloved Mariam Daarit out of this. The guy they admitted to demonstrate in the streets of Addis–the man who dresses like a New York pimp, can cure such spells.

      • iSem

        Hi Saleh:
        Do u think we should entrust the spells of a beloved Kerenite Hope to the guy?

  • Blink

    Dear all
    The Abiy government can stop the oil and mining exploration for a given time because finding hard currency in cash across Ethiopia looks promising. Police report shows Ethiopia is full of Dollar and Euro but most of it is at the hand of the old guard and why they have to do is mining in an effective way and screw at the Bole airport.
    10 million dollar in cash get caught while Hayat saying dergi was better than Abiy government.
    https://youtu.be/C4I87lCJAxw

  • ‘Gheteb

    Greetings!!

    The following Youtube video is to go with part C, at the tail end, of the note entitled:

    “The Drowning Anti-PFDJ Camp: Clutching At The Straw In The Seas Of Counterfactuals”

    The OLF stand on the issue of The Transitional Government Of Ethiopia In 1991 as it pertained to the EPLF’s participation, the then chairman of the OLF, Dr. Dima Negewo, in an interview with ESAT. Start from the 12 minute mark.

    http://www.youtube.com/embed

  • Peace!

    The Drowning PFDJ: Recycling its Yes Man At The Straw In The Seas Of Unknown Change

    Greetings!!

    ሰመረ ርእሶም ኣምባሳደር ህግደፍ ኣብ ኢትዮጽያ ኮይኑ ተመዚዙ

    ብርሃኑ ነጋ መራሒ ግንቦት 7 ናይ ኢርትራውያን ፌስቲቫል ኣብ Washington DC ብዕሊ ከፊትዎ

    ሚንስተር ሓቤረታ የማነ ገብረመስቀል ናይ እሱራት ምፍታሕ ሓበሬታ ከምዘይብሉ ገሊጹ

    ኢርትራዊ ፓስተር ኣብ ነርወይ ኣቦታትና ንኢትዮጽያ ዝመረጹ ብምስልምና ከይዕብለሉ ስለዝፈርሑ እዮም ስለዚ ምስ ኢትዮጽያ ተጸምቢርና ህይወትና ነድሕን ክብል ንሳዓብቱ ተማሕጺኑ

    It has been an intense week, and it is only Saturday…

    Peace!

    • Paulos

      Selam Abi Seb,

      ኣታ ዓቢ ሰብ ቀዳም ንጉሆ ጥዑም ብስራት ከይተስማዓናስ በርባዕተ ርእሲ ሕማም ዝኾና ነጥብታት ቀዳምና ክንጅምራ? በጃኻ ካልእ ጥዑም ዛዕባ ፈቲሽካ ንገረና።

      • Peace!
        • Paulos

          ሰላም ዓቢ ሰብ,

          ርኢኻ በዛ ቢድዮ ጌርካ ነታ ነጥቢ ኣርባዕተ ወቒዕኻያ! ነተን ተሪፈን ዘለዋ ነጥብታት ድማ ቀስ ኢለን ክውቃዓ እየን፣ 5Q plus 5Q ዓቢ ሰብ ናይ ብሐቂ!

          • Peace!

            Paulosay,

            Actually I thought appointing Semere Rusom ambassador to Ethiopia is a big deal; it validates that PFDJ II is ነደኺ ማይ ውረድላ. And my man ‘Gheteb (hope I am not in his ignored list) may enlighten us on PFDJ’s retirement age.

            Peace!

          • Blink

            Dear peace
            Let’s hope the peace hold and the the border issue get solved so that the people can go home and throw the military clothes away . Who sits in Addis is not important to Eritreans because the person who appointed him is what needs to be screwed.

          • Peace!

            Blink,

            My man that’s precisely the point. Appointing a former security chief of EPLF ambassador to Ethiopia in 2018 tells you he is for new or unfinished business.

            Peace!

          • FishMilk

            Hi Peace! . I guess the PFDJ retirement age is similar to that of Ethiopia under the TPLF mafia control. Maybe we can ask Sebhat Nega (forced to retire at the young age of 84) or Girma Woldegiogis (retired at a green 88years of age).

          • Peace!

            Hi FM,

            Why would you guess aren’t you a supporter? Let me help you: PFDJ retirement age is FLEXIBLE, it goes 14-93, and the villa for retirement is a PRISON CELL.

            Now, compare that with your TPLF retirement analysis, and ask yourself the difference:

            “Maybe we can ask Sebhat Nega (forced to retire at the young age of 84) or Girma Woldegiogis (retired at a green 88years of age).”

            Peace!

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Peace,

      It is a grave mistake to call a forged copy as a true Eritrean. He is an Ethiopian pastor in Norway.

      • Peace!

        Hameed Al-Arabi,

        I stand corrected if you are right. I watched the video and I believe no one would think he is an Ethiopian.

        Peace!

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Peace,

          We have believed for decades Isaias is an Eritrean to get him at the end of the day a faithful son of Ethiopia. I hope language and birth place should not be our litmus in judging people origin.

    • saay7

      Peace!

      This is why it is so funny when Nitricc was advising to get new blood when naming ambassadors to Eritrea. The person Eritrea named as its ambassador to Ethiopia is just one of 20 people Isaias plays musical chairs with: ambassador to US, Minister of Education. When he left US ambassadorship, he was replaced by Girma Asmerom who was ambassador to Ethiopia and when he took over ministry of education he took it over from the current Foreign Minister. Same 20 guys.

      During Ghedli, he was with 72, EPLFs Intelligence unit (whose boss is now rotting in prison since 2001), and he was assigned to Sudan where EPLF had perfected the black art of kidnapping and assassinating its political opponents. None of that will come in handy in Ethiopia now because everybody is in love with everybody.

      saay

      • Desbele

        Saay,
        Also on Semere’s resume is , Wuchu once detained him and show him that he is the real boss in Central Zone.

        • saay7

          Desbele:

          Oh yeah, I forgot that stint in musical chairs: he was also administrator of the Central zone. I “worked” with him when he was ambassador to US in 98-00. Like all Eritrean ambassadors he spent 0% of his time representing his country to the host country and 100% of his time “representing” his government to his fellow citizens.

          saay

        • iSem

          Hi Desseble:
          Semere is going to Ethiopia to perform his security work. He was long time rep pf EPLF in Sudan, but he was behind t many
          of assassination and kidnapping in Sudan by IA and most notably he is implicated in the death of Haile Garaz
          So I do not like the choice, Deja vue, opposition get worried, ur one basket of eggs is about to crashed

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Sem,

            Is Semere Russom the nephew of Fitwerari Ambaye the SDO of the Serae province in 60s? Fitwerari Ambaya was a man who worshiped emperor HS. I mean literally, a man who equate HS with the religious angels like “Gebriel and Micheal, and demand the public to worship him like them. He did this demand to the public at the Damera-Meskel in 1968. He was killed by ELF fedayen in the same year. If Semere Russom is the Nephew of him, could this be coincidental or something else…..(fill in the gap) giving their lives to serve despots.

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            He is his nephew, I think is was called Embaye Hadera, Semere actually grew up with him

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Sem,

            He is the same person however we spelled it his name. Another history of this man and his colleague “Ali Higgo” who was the SDO of Akeleguzay is the divide and rule tactics. December 1969, when the Bahir Dar students came to Asmara and instigated the entire Eritrean student to come out to the streets to protest, they were tried to divide our unity ( I mean the Bahir Dar student) the keep calling us Serayene bezi Ablu and Akleguzayna bezi Ablu while the SDOs of the provinces of Hamasien and Senhit provinces didn’t buy their tactics.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            What is SDO?

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Dr. Paulos,
            Let me jump in for Aman H here. SDO was senior district office and the junior functionary was DO – just district officer. There were administrative titles allocated by the British Military Administration in Eritrea.

          • Paulos

            Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

            I didn’t know that. Thank you so much.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos & Ismailo,

            Doctore, Ismailo gave you the answer exactly (sinior district officer). Thank you Ismailo, you act on behalf of me.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aman H.,

            When that notorious royalist/unionist Fit-werari was liquidated for overplaying his role with spiteful arrogance added, and which made him easy target, I happened to had been in camp at the HSUI university. Semere was a senior class student in the Prof. Mesfin W/Mariam’s geography department. I remember, too, that there was another younger and close relative of his there.

            The liquidation of the man had visibly hurt the two guys who had no connection with clandestine Eritrean student cell which was already turmoil due to the Ethiopian government’s concerted propaganda campaign to smear the ELF as sellout to Arabo-Islamist enemies. This campaign was extra muddied by the flying letters elements like Isayas were dispatching as well as the defector “confessions” effect. This was the time when Musie, Derue and others had given themselves to the government, and whose testimonies the government had used to the maximum so much so some of the cell members voluntarily exposed themselves and asked pardon from the Emperor via Seyoum Haregot who served as state minister in the Ministry Foreign Affairs. Those who refused to ask pardon, among whom were the late Michael Gabir and Woldeyesus Ammar were as the result subjected to miserable isolation to the extend of affecting their studies.

            Thus, the point to which all this leads is that Semere Rusom’s career and perception was very much shaped by hatred of the ELF and anything it represented. His role in Sudan and in the service of Isayas and what Isayas stood for cannot be source of surprise.

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal,
        I hate doing comparisons, but let’s compare the two ambassadors. Ato Semere and Ato Redwan.

        Redwan Hussain, a former opposition party leader later flipped to SEPDM (Southern arm of EPRDF) 49 years old, served as spokesperson of Ethiopian government (not a good one) had a short tenure as chair of
        EPRDF secretariat, multilingual which include Tigrigna.

        Ato Semere..former combatant and I assume has at leaset 20 years older than Redwan.

        Which one should be considered “new blood”?

        Meanwhile, please read the Ethiopian novelist and currently BBC Amharic editor Kalkidan Yibeltal accounts of his visit of Asmara..

        https://www.bbc.com/amharic/amp/news-44897334?__twitter_impression=true

        • Paulos

          Selam Eyob,

          Semere a man with a shoddy history and don’t you find it so curious the fact that Isaias is sending mafia like Semere to Ethiopia. Is it going to be embezzlement 2.0 including exporting Coffee from Eritrea among other things?

        • Now inc.

          Eyob,
          A tiny correction. Ato Semere is Eritrea’s minister to Ethiopia, i.e., his post is ministerial, not ambassadorial. You’re welcome!

        • Paulos

          Selam Eyob,

          Many thanks for sharing the link. I say, if anyone doesn’t cry his or her heart out after reading the BBC report, he or she doesn’t have a heart.

          This is really sad! My eyes are tearing. It is just extraordinary–one man destroyed a nation and a generation. Asmara, as the reporter put it poignantly, is dubbed a city of the elderly for the youth is no where to be seen. PFDJ, congratulations for a job well done.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam paulos
            But it doesn’t look like u guys(the opposition)cried ur heart out after reading the bbc report and saifu fantahun fm radio report.
            Can u imagine how it looks like if things remain the same for another 10 or something years?

        • Desbele

          Selam Eyob,

          Thanks for the link.
          ጥሩ ዘገባ ነው። ኣስመራን ለ 20 ዓመት ኖሬበታለው፡ መኖር ከተባለ።ኑሮ ካሉት ኣስመራም ይሞቃል ነበር ነገሩ።.
          ይህ የሰላም ግዜ ለኤርትራውያን ለውጥ እንዲያመጣ በተገለበጠ ዔሊ የሚመሰለው የኤርትራ ስርዓት መጀመሪያ በእግሩ መቆም ኣለበት። እስቲ ለዛሬ ሲም ካርድ ለማውጣት ስላለው መከራ
          ሲም ካርድ ለማውጣት የውጭ ኣገር ዜጋ ከሆንክ መጀመርያ ማመልከቻ ውጭ ጉዳይ መስርያ ቤት ታስገባለህ። ከ2 ጉርድ ፎቶ; የ ፓስፖርት ኮፒ እና የምኖርያ ፍቃድ ጋር። ከፈጠነ በሳምንት መልስ ይሰጠሃል፡ዔሊ ነዋ የሚሰራው። ፍቃድ ከተሰጠ በውሃላ ወደ ተለኮሚኒከሽን መስርያ ቤት ትመራለህ። ቴሌ ሲም ካርድ ይሰጡሃል። ከኣገር ስትለቅ ሲሙን የመመለስ ግዴታ ኣለብህ።
          የኣገራዊ ባርነት ኣባል ሲም ካርድ ማውጣት ኣይችልም
          ከ 70 ዓመት በፊት የኤርትራውያን መልስ በጣም ስለሰለጠንን መደመር ኣንችልም ነበር፤ ኣሁን በጣም ወድኃላ ስለቀራችሁ መደመር ትቸገራላችሁ ይሆን

          • Paulos

            Selam Desbele,

            I was born and brought up in Asmara pretty much till I was 17. And reading the grim present reality of the city gives me not only the chills but felt like reading about a lost city like the “Atlantis” if you will where 2018 is back to the future.

            Remember, this is the very first time in 20 years we have a vivid description of the city by a solid reporter where again it feels absolutely surreal to say the least.

            The ultimate defeat of humanity is not to cease to live moment but inability to fight back and dying while one is still alive. Bringing out the country from the cold when it is summer throughout is the abnormalities and absurdities of the nation we call home in agony and in pain. That is just extraordinary. The movie, “The Village” comes to mind.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Desbale,

            I am optimistic that the opening up will have a profound impact. To see that a pentecostal preacher openly preaching in the street of Asmara and making a video about arrested believers is something of a change (despite my reservation on pentecostal preachers) Ideas travel. That would make people exposed to some stuff they have never been exposed to before. I am a bit disappointed with some Eritrean opposition, who took a position that’s borderline xenophobic on this. Their objection sounds the other end of YPFDJ. Some of their outburst about visting Ethiopians also tastelessly ethnisist and racist.

            About the SIM card and other inconveniences h…let’s cool down on sarcasm and unnecessary መበሻሸቅ and allow some time to observe the imminent change that the thaw brings, albeit we think slow moving..

        • saay7

          Selam Eyob:

          I am glad you took a break from assisting Ahmed Shidey in the deification of Abiy Ahmed and joined us malcontents here briefly.

          So if you hate comparing our beat up 1972 Datsun with your 2018 Honda, why are you doing it? To rub our noses in it? But the Datsun is a classic and it retains its Ministerial portfolio and is not an ambassador. The difference between an ambassador and a minister assigned to another country is what I would have preferred you spent your talent dissecting (hint: Semere should not be happy and it has to do with Abiy being Minister of Everything in Eritrea.)

          It turns out the only solution to the ambitions of Greater Tigray was Greater Ethiopia. I have set my clock to remind me to be optimistic about the effects of osmosis.

          saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            I am making a comparison because a commenter here said that ‘Ethiopia needs a new blood ambassador’ so I wanted to point out that Redwan Hussain is sort of ‘new bloodish’.. It seems that you have decided to punish me for my transgression of comparing, you made me watch this horrible, terrible, no good video.. Ah…..just shoot me next time..

  • AMAN

    What is going on here
    ?
    Is this blitzkrieg attack by EDF forces
    on the Gallant Deqi Alula intermet forces.
    .

  • guest

    Selam

    I understand your worries. But self-isolation is not the solution. We just need to be as smart they are and use our strategic location to squeeze as much as possible from them.

    Remember we know each very well:

    They say : ንኤርትራዊ ብማሕላ ንደርሆ ብማሽሀላ።
    We say: ሽሕ እንተኾነ ሕያዋይ ኣትእመን ንትግራዋይ።

    • @george

      Dear guest

      Bolivian told me, when the devil knocks your door, don’t do anything, don’t ask who he is, don’t open the door just ignore him. It’s the same, avoid any communication with them. I wouldn’t worry about isolation. The whole world is open to us why worry about people they have an agenda already. They are cornered because without Eritrea they are dead. Tegra is not valuable real estate at all. They have not shown any propensity for inventiveness, creativity. Tigera has no known natural resources. Even if they have they would have to use our ports to exported. They’re hoping and praying somehow they can flip the government so they can take Misawa.

      • Guest

        Selam
        Thank you for the laugh and the memory. After the Derg army retreated from Barka and overcrowded Keren, some nights the soldiers used to knock on our door and we pretended as we were not at home. The next morning we did notice that some our chickens were missing, prompting my Mom to commont that Tigraian soldiers steal chickens and Amhara soldiers steal bulls. It seems that our prejudice against Tegaru is deep rooted. God help us to heal from the destructive mistrust.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Selam Hope,

    Thanks for your feedback. I don’t think that Isaias, the Tegadaly or Isaias the president was, is or has been an ardent UNIONIST, advancing covertly or overtly, the union of Eritrea or Ethiopia.

    Sure, he has shown a leaning of a “CONFEDERAL ARRANGEMENT” not only with Ethiopia, but also within the the larger East African Arrangement.

    I have yet to see ONE evidence that shows Isaias has seriously advanced the idea of UNITY with Ethiopia.

    But, you are claiming that “we have tons of evidence and warning….”. Do you mind sharing some EVIDENCE from the “tons of evidence” to buttress and back up your claims?

    Spare me, though, of all the wild allegations about Kagnew, Haile Selasie/Isreal, Berlin, Aden, Damascus, Rome meetings. What I need is hard evidence that proves that Isaias pushed through the EPLF and PFDJ proposals to advance and effectuate his goal of uniting Eritrea with Ethiopia.

    • Hope

      Selamat Wed Ad:
      I still admire you and your analysis and defending Eritrea’s Interest minus your hesitation to admit and to condemn the Chaotic and erratic actions and its alleged and real /proven “ Crimes Against Humanity”.

      First,I owe you an apology for my erratic and hectic response.

      Second,I should have said “Circumstantial Evidence” rather than saying “Evidence”!

      But don’t ask me for those circumstantial evidence as you have read them here repeatedly and you listened to PIA and you know better than most of us what he has said and done over the time.

      We demonized Prof Berekhet Habtemariam and his likes aka “Eritrean Quislings” for saying minimum things about future Ethiopia-Eritrean Relationship in general and about Dialogue with the TPLF and Integration in particular …. but only to become (the PFDJ and its” Apologists like Hope and Gheteb”, the same Experts and Neo -Pioneers as well as the Enablers and Executers of the same Principles of Dialogue and Integration saga(as if we weren’t victims of our own makings,at least partially) that but now with a sophisticated cover up arguements to justify their /our change of hearts,which I supported partially based on facts on the ground specially taking into consideration the TPLF Factor(and and that of its Masters and Mercenaries) !

      Be that it may be,I am only responding to U and arguing for the sake of doing so only,as,irrespective of what people have said and done and regardless of the crimes and sufferings,FINALLY,PEACE has PREVAILED between Eritrea and Ethiopia and their Respective Peoples;and irrespective of what IA said or did or thought, and what people think and say about IA,what matters now is as how to maintain and strengthen to the Maximum this PEACE and thereby compensate for the lost opportunities .
      That doesn’t mean to completely ignore the past mistakes and crimes but to seek for constructive ways to make the past by applying the Golden Principle of Forget and FORGIVE “ and Rapprochement through Amnesty and a Genuine National Reconciliation !

      The past is the past but a BIG lesson to learn from so as to avoid further mistakes and to do better today and tomorrow .

      Let us STOP ,which I decided to do so,talking gibberish about what IA has said/done or not has done,which I consider as an old new toxic but OBSOLETE propaganda by the miserably FAILED and LOST entities and Souls, but let us talk about what we should COLLECTIVELY have to do from now on for the BEST INTEREST of Eritrea and Eritreans -with VIGILLANCE ! !

      The Bible says:
      “ Bi Fre Ghibrom kitfetiwom ekhum”!
      -“Forgive so as to be forgiven”!

      Any way,”Time will tell “!

    • Acria

      Selam Gheteb,
      It is very difficult to get hard evidence in situations where there is no democracy and rules of law. I am very sad that we are reduced to innuendos.

  • saay7

    Selam Tesfu:

    “Some” are not smart and “some” have paralyzed Eritrean politics with their paranoia. Give me 2 days and I can make that case about everyone.

    saay

  • Paulos

    Selam Hope,

    Suppose Isaias comes up with a proposal for a federal arrangement and he does it in such a way that there is no historical justification that can buttress Eritrean statehood separate from Ethiopia-proper.

    And he goes on to argue that the reason we launched the struggle for independence was due to mishandling of the Eritrean case by successive Ethiopian rulers. And suppose, a better chunk of PFDJ support his stand and the rest part ways. In that kind of scenario where it is very unlikely but not implausible, would you be able to see the Eritrean identity in the mix still standing ?

    • Hope

      Selam Paulos:
      Your theoretical and metaphysical analysis and assumptions make sense from theoretical and metaphysical point of view!

      I respect IA and some PFDJ Supporters and their opinion.

      That case scenario will be something to be considered and debated in the future only and only where there is a Constitutional Government, the environment and the circumstances become conducive and shall be determined by REFERENDUM if at all that case scenario shall become a case scenario!

      It is too early to debate on this Topic.

      It is perfect to talk about as to how expeditel the Healing and Reconciloation process along with Economic Integration then let Mother Nature take. Are ofvthings.
      It will cause lots of unnecessary confusion and uneasiness to talk about Federation and Reunification from both sides.

      I made an error in my tone in responding to Gheteb,which I will retract how I expressed it—— but not the way the Flip-flopping Trump has done it.

      Granted,as I debated with my Brother-in-Law,Guad Abinet,I was of the opinion and conviction in 1991 that this case scenario could have been a reality TODAY naturally after 30 yrs,hadn’t the TPLF messed up.

      And I am still upholding that 30 yrs old opinion and conviction that it will(the Confedreartion/Integration ) happen slowly and after all criteria are fulfilled over time,NOT IA et all said so….. but when all Eritreans will say so with no pressure or stress.
      But currently,I don’t like how both sides-The Anti -PFDJ and the PFDJ camps are presenting things.

  • @george

    Dear now

    Why do you think it is a good idea? Why do you think they want a sports event, or cultural Exchange? I hope you are not naive enough to believe it’s for a good cause. Shame on you. Have not learnt anyting? You can scream day night for change now I know what your intentions are.

  • ‘Gheteb

    The Drowning Anti-PFDJ Camp: Clutching At The Straw In The Seas Of Counterfactuals

    Greetings!!

    In the topsy-turvy world of the anti–PFDJ camp, things are getting from worse to the worst. With the evolving Ethio-Eritrean peace deal and with their main benefactor and patron the TPLF out of power in Ethiopia, they have sunk deeper in the seas of counterfactuals. They are helplessly swimming against the current, groping to clutch at anything and everything to delay their impending drowning that is going to seal their demise.

    Just like someone drowning would desperately try to grab at anything to save his or her life, the elements of the anti-PFDJ camp are hopelessly trying to clutch on something, anything, to delay the INELUCTABLE. As their last gasp, they found a straw which they happily and enthusiastically grabbed and held on to save their political lives. And, what was that straw?

    Enter Mesfin Hagos, one of the veterans of the EPLF leadership. He has provided a STRAW, a flimsy and a dilapidated one at that, which the drowning anti-PFDJ elements have grasped so firmly in their last ditch effort of precluding their INEXORABLE political QUIETUS.

    The straw that Mesfin Hagos issued or forked out is pretty much THIRTY YEARS old. Mesfin asserted that, Isaias Afwerki, then the EPLF Secretary General, BROACHED an idea that suggested that the EPLF will join other anti-Derg Ethiopian forces that will form a government or a coalition government that was to be formed right on the heels of the fall of the Derg regime.

    We are told that Isaias idea of the EPLF joining the Ethiopian government was nixed POSTHASTE with only Mesfin Hagos dissenting and no one else from the EPLF’s Central Committee. Well, two things militate against this assertion.

    First, if Mesfin Hagos was the sole opposing voice against what Isaias proposed and none of the other EPLF Central Committee members uttered nary a peep of opposition, why then was the proposal dropped forthwith?

    Second, as we have been HECTORED for the umpteenth time that Isaias was/is a dictator who owned first the EPLF and now the PFDJ gets and does pretty much what he wants. Actually, it is one of the quotidian assertions of the anti-PFDJ elements that the PFDJ is nothing but a one man show, viz, IA is PFDJ. If that was the case, then why did the EPLF put the kibosh on what Isaias had broached?

    As with everything that comes from the anti-PFDJ camp, this is is an ARRANT nonsense at worst and a superficially skin-deep at best. This is so because, inter alia, it is utterly denuded of context, context and context. Here are some of the regnant political facts in those years:

    A) Both the TPLF and the OLF were not that enthusiastic about the formation of an Ethiopian government after the downfall of the Derg and the EPLF was the sole voice advancing the idea of a unified Ethiopia and resisting the TPLF’s and OLF’s inclination of seceding from Ethiopia.

    B) Eritrea’s search for independence was NOT supported by the world’s power to be and Isaias and co. had to contend with the reigning political atmosphere. A day before departing to the London peace conference in 1991, Herman Cohen told Jim Lehrer of PBS that “The Eritrean case or issue should be solved within the Ethiopian framework”. Meaning, NO to Eritrean independence and Eritrea should be content with a dispensation that envisaged a federal or some sort of an autonomy.

    Now, the big question is that, if joining Eritrea with Ethiopia in a union is Isaias Afwerki’s DESIDERATUM, then what is precluding and preventing him from forging ahead to achieve his goal. Remember, we have been ceaselessly exhorted that he is a totalitarian who gets whatever he wants from the EPLF earlier and now from the PFDJ?

    • iSem

      Howdy:
      And with that I ask new Eritrean leader Elect, Dr.Abiye Ahmed to appoint Gheteb of Geza Tonkobet the Minister of Information in the province of Eritrea. Since we are going to have dynasty Gheteb of Gaza Tonkeobt will replace his cuz, the former mister of information and then Wedi something will attempt a coup and he will fail and Gheteb will be implicated an put in the new prison named in his honor just liike M.Nurhussien, Abdella Jaber and all those who served IA and gotten bitten when they thought their loyalty initiated in blood will protect them from IA’s wrath.
      Please join me, all Ethiopians and all former Eritreans in a united voice to lobby our leader elect to appoint Gheteb of Forto

    • Acria

      Selam Gheteb,
      You are very well versed in the English language. I solemnly request that you use your knowledge and energy to pursue the process of reconciliation with other Eritreans that have a differing point of view. Let’s learn from the past mistakes and try to lead the way for true and lasting peace to the Eritrean masses. Most of us are fortunate enough to voice our approval and objections to the things that are happening back home in Eritrea. This is because we live in democratic nations. Let’s work hard to push for real change this time around.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Gheteb,

      I wonder, why you hide yourself as an Eritrean? Your god, Isaias, has declared it openly to the entire world that he is a true and faithful son of Ethiopia. Also, you are telling us true Eritreans are gasping for their life “groping to clutch at anything to delay their impending drowning”. As far as things reach to this stage, it is senseless to continue acting as an Eritrean. It is better to be proud of your true identity, game is over and your mission has arrived at its destination. Brother, nothing hinder you from now on to feign as Eritrean.

      Most Eritreans know from early seventies Isaias is an Ethiopian, and he is in a mission to destroy the Eritrean people. Many remnants of Alula played a big role in confusing true Eritreans. I think, many true Eritreans now woke up from their dreams to find their country is again in the hands of Ethiopia. I want to remind you Mr. Gheteb that WILL always WIN. You have to conceive it well the people of Eritrea will never be frightened by your MAMA and kneel down.

      In his next visit to Addis, your god will invalidate Nakfa and endorse Bir as his sole currency. Secondly, he will throw to dust bin the Eritrean Passport and hold Ethiopian passport in his travels.

    • Selam Gheteb,
      You are not fully quoting what Dr. Dima Negewo says in the interview with ESAT. He confirms that after OLF insisted on the participation of EPLF in a transitional government in Ethiopia, the EPLF, which was represented by the general-secretary and other senior members of the organisation, had consented. The EPLF reverted its position only after they started to work out the details for the formation of the transitional government for ‘unknown/inexplicable’ reasons. I think the very fact that the EPLF had consented to the idea when there was no external pressure in itself is noteworthy. What do you say?

      thanks

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Samuel,

        Thanks for your incisive input. I will attempt to limn here ” the external pressure’ that was brought to bear on the EPLF on its quest for attaining Eritrea’s right to self determination and national independence.

        The hurdles on the EPLF path were high and some of the obstacles were seemingly insuperable because very powerful countries were objecting and opposing Eritrea’s secession from Ethiopia.

        Here are some of what was transpiring in those years. This list is by no means exhaustive, but what I can rattle off the top of my head, so to speak.

        1) In the numerous meetings that were mediated by President Carter, from Atlanta to Nairobi and Khartoum’s International Airpport, it was becoming crystal clear to the EPLF that any other dispensation outside the Ethiopian Framework, will not be accepted by the powers that be such as the USA.

        2) In the 1990s, the EPLF, led by Isaias Afwerki and the late Ali Said Abdella has had extensive meetings with The Department Of State specially Mr. Herman Cohen. I think he invited them to his home where they had a Thanksgiving dinner. From all these meetings, they came out understanding that the US opposed Eritrea’s quest of forming a separate and independent Eritrea by breaking away from Ethiopia.

        3) In 1991, at the height of the mass emigration of the Ethiopian Jews, Beit Israel, Mengistu Hailemariam, wrote a letter to Bush père in which he requested that the USA to stop or oppose Eritrea from becoming an independent country. I think Bush père’s response was in the affirmative, if one is to go by the negative reaction of his Secretary Of State, Jim Baker, to the 1991 London Peace Accord.

        4) Just to add to the fact that Eritrea was still facing fierce resistance and Eritrea’s national aspiration was still in hot water, so to speak, the UN General Secretary, Butros Butros Ghali, was not that keenly enthusiastic in approving EPLF’s Referendum Proposal.

        I hope that would proffer you an apercu in the reigning political milieu that the EPLF had to contend with in its steadfast struggle to bring the Eritrean peoples aspiration to fruition.

        In an effort of illuminating the salient point of what I am trying to impart here, allow me to elucidate it by way of an example.

        The case of the Western Saharawi peoples struggle for national self-determination is very similar to the Eritrean case. What we have so fat seen is that quest has been stymied and the POLISARIO is still struggling to free The Sahrawi people from Morocco’s occupation.

        Those who would have us believe that Eritrea’s quest for independence led by the EPLF was like a walk in the park and are indolently reeling off retrospective analyses are, mind-bogglingly, ‘DISREMEMBERING’ that the EPLF had to grapple with all the hurdles, pressures and obstacles that stood sharply athwart Eritrea’s march to nationhood.

        Many are questioning Isaias’s nationalist political bona fides,nay, vilipending him here as unionist or one with a unionists aspiration. Fact is, Isaias Afwerki is synonymous with Eritrea’s arduous national struggle and the attainment of Eritrea’s independence, warts and all.

        • Selam Gheteb,
          Thanks for the inventory of external pressures brought to bear on the EPLF to abandon its overall unwavering stand on the right of the Eritrean people to self-determination. The pressure was there all along from the beginning of the Eritrean armed struggle in 1961. But, the Eritrean revolutionary movements were ‘uncompromising’ in the face of either a relatively fair offer for autonomy suggested by non other than the Eritrean General, Aman Andom, or in the face of an existential threat between 1978 and 1984 when the Derg had the whole of Russian military and financial power on its side. Considering its track record, it is difficult to understand why EPLF would even entertain the idea, let alone accept, of participating in a transitional government in Ethiopia, when It was at the zenith of its power and it had almost the whole country under its control.

          Thanks

    • Saba

      Dear ‘Gheteb,
      The confederation thing PIA mentioned, was it plan B in case independence was unattainable? Or was he anticipating the trend of globalism?

  • Blink

    Dear all
    I can claim I have no love for anything that comes from Ethiopia to Eritrea especially if the deal is between the Habesha lunatics , I mean they always marketed Eritrea only for the Tigrinya speaking by excluding the other part just because Hailesilassie said so . Now our awate lazy , lousy and at some point losers are getting hyped just because the idea of one government between EPRDF and EPLF was initiated ahm yes I remember this topic was pushed by some people in this site even before Mesfin Hagos throw them a rotten meat in SBS. It seems Issaias was more globalist than kind of meles but this was long time ago before Issaias brought new skin against privatisation and democracy . Ok , I understand the opposition need some kind of talking points and they will talk even the story was in 1945 .
    Again you have their partners the TPLF old activists crying day out day in blaming Abiy for giving justice for hundreds of thousands of peasants. Why are they crying? I mean what exactly are they losing from Abiy policy ? Yes the few are losing but not the Majority of Tigrians .What a crazy world are we living in , people are spending on what Mesfin hagos said about Issaias even though they know it can never t be done at this generation. In 1993 Issaias told to the world confederation with Ethiopia was and is the way to go. He openly said economic integration will lead to some kind of political integration but here we are talking what he said in few people’s meetings. Go check the interview he made in 1993. I will post the link for anyone who can not find it.

    Second the TPLF lunatics activists are saying Abiy is putting Ethiopian sovereignty at danger even they are floating the idea Abiy is more bad than dergi and the reason TPLF rule Ethiopia was “ because they are the best when it comes to Ethiopiawinet” what is going on with these short sighted people. The Tigray people are taking the Abiy train leaving the Menkenoch in trails and hanging over their last fortune wishing things can be changed, no it will not change and the Abiy train can only go forward and the Tigrians are smart enough to know these few anti peace .

    • Sam

      Dear Blink,

      Facts matter! Mesfin Hagos may have alluded only to a central committee meeting blunder. I don’t even know why he had to wait this long. He then went out of his way to tell the interviewer and his audiences that he doesn’t buy some Eritreans’ misgivings about his ex-boss harboring secret dream about Abay Ethiopia. I wonder if he is suffering from some kind of amnesia, may be old age is catching up. After all, it wasn’t only in the presence of “few people” that he made statements that raised eyebrows. IA openly said in 1991 to a Dimtsi Hafash interviewer (a couple of weeks prior to independence) that EPLF could be part of the EPRDF-led transitional government in Ethiopia. So why was Mesfin Hagos talking about the central committee meeting incident completely ignoring IA’s Dimtsi Hafash interview. Or was Dimtsi Hafash only for the Hafash as its name indicates and CC members were spared of it?
      If IA says something, you better take it at face value. The CC glitch might have temporarily derailed his plans but it doesn’t mean that they were permanently shelved. Let’s not confuse our dreams for Eritrea with those of IA’s. When he was then asked to clarify why he said what he said in an interview a couple of days later, he used a qicha metaphor to deny that it wasn’t what people thought it was. He said it wasn’t that he was aiming for a bigger qicha unable to settle for a smaller piece.
      There you have it. I am not questioning your intention for Eritrea, only His.

      Good day sir.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Sam. You guys are now sucking the gutter out of desperation. What most of you do not even know, is the fact that the EPLF did provide military support to the EPRDF transitional Government (1991-1993).

        • @george

          Dear fishmilk

          Actually it’s a good thing that they’re fooling around with random stuff. It will keep him busy. Me like it. Like everything else it will die down. Not too long ago if you and i said something similar they would call you conspiracy theory nut. Now they’re busy throwing you some mundane boring stuff hoping you’ll have traction. That’s why pia said we are number one. That’s right, we are number one of having the absolute worst of opposition. I love them. Especially when they are debating with Ethiopians. That’s epic I love it.

      • saay7

        Selam Sam:

        That is one impressive and well supported post.

        Mesfin Hagos has a character which some find endearing and admirable while others find frustrating and ill-fitting a politician: he always talks like he is a witness giving an eyewitness testimony. Suppose someone Mesfin knows shoots someone and then confesses to Mesfin. Mesfin will spend a long time denying rumors about the killer, denying that he used a knife, will acknowledge that indeed the killer confessed to him, and then say “just because he confessed doesn’t mean he did it, because I wasn’t there to witness it.”

        As to why he didn’t mention it until now, it’s because he knows by stating the facts about IA he is also stating them about his comrades, dead and alive, in the EPLF and EPRP: they were willing to go along with IAs decision because by then they had created the monster. Referring to my interview of Ambassador Adhanom where he makes the point that by the time of the Afabet meeting the Central Committee members were terrified to even ask on the whereabouts of fellow CC members, never mind of ordinary combatants.

        IA’s readiness to be a slice of a bigger pizza rather than the whole of a small pizza: it happens every time he is at a world stage. First documented case was with the Israeli-HSI case. Second documented case was in the London talks of 91. Third time is the charm: Now it is in the UAE talks. There were always fiery Eritreans ready to bring him back to the Eritrean cause. Now?

        saay

        • iSem

          Hi Sal:
          My understanding what MH said about not buying the notion that IA was for the union wast that he was referring to the old Kagenw meetings, but I do not think MH was not saying that IA was not serious about his proposal as it was done deal without consultation, He saw the shell shock an unenthusiastic leaders and MH’s opposition, he figured it was dangerous. So MH was not saying that IA was not for conferdation because his ideas change in different eras, he said

          As the late Michael Gabir always said and W Ammar confirmed that IA joined after failing first year, so I also believe that HS would not entrust such a task to the 20 years old kid, But IA always wanted that so his meeting with CIA and HS’s reps was testament to that, No matter whether he was sent or not he was executing the agenda for ethiopia but for his own needs and now we saw him so jubilant and rightly so: he has weakened the Eritreans, making them even weaker when he proposed it and the proof is, IA would not have survived this visit to Addis. That is telling.
          There are of course many Eritreans in some power who are angry about this but they are not in POSITION to do anything and that is why IA has weakened us

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            There are a couple of items that I am not sure off but I don’t know which is fact.

            1) Was IA a student at Lulu Meconenen with the rest of students (W. Amar, Haile DuruE and others). I saw some picture where it looked graduating class.

            2) I have heard interview if someone, who was member of the Ethiopian intelligence, and he said the following about IA.

            i) He attended a high school in Wollo called Sahni something (where a lot of prominent Ethiopians studied who had a role in the student movement that overthrow HS). I think Dr. TesfaSion also studi

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Berhe Y,

            “So the issue of MH and what he said, I think it was a matter of convince at the time which appeared to make sense.”

            I agree that most of what we hear about PIA’s political history seems too complex to have worked as planned, but one fact is that his intent to unite or federate Eritrea with Ethiopia has not been that much of a secret.

            What Mr. Mesfin Hagos’ claimed regarding PIA’s unity or federation plan is collaborated in one recent Major Dawit Wolde Giorgis’ interview.

            Major Dawit claims that they were in the talks about (more or less agreed) with PIA as the leader in mind. He also says that their project got spoiled by MZ (TPLF).

            PIA was strongly objecting to the idea of MZ leading Ethiopia. He also quoted PIA as saying “Meles Zenawi is a bad man.”

            From Major Dawit’s tone it seemed PIA was diverting attention to himself as the best choice to lead Ethiopia.

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            You probably know my views on IA. I usually try to separate IA, as a politician- his personal traits, from IA, as a person-his background and personal identity.

            Some of the things written and said about IA are not only outrageous and embarrassing, but “Gutter politics.

            Myth 1

            Can you believe IA was a secret agent who was recruited by the Ethiopia government to sabotage Eritrean’s struggle for self-determination? What more depressing is that when these views are uttered by people who hold PHDs. I cringe in horror?

            Why a twenty-two years person had to go through hell to act as a saboteur is mind-boggling and difficult to comprehend? Mesfin Hagos has also expressed similar views.

            Myth 2

            IA is not an Eritrean by blood and has Tigrean ancestry. This view is held by people who have the same background as IA’s. I believe this sickness and I call it virus, has been spread by Tigrean elites, and many gullible Christian highlanders have been happily consuming it.

            Myth 3

            IA was a terrible student.
            According to Wedi Amar, IA had failed his first-year exams and was dismissed from his Addis university. This does not imply he was not academic. He joined Addis uni because he passed his leaving certificate (Matriculation). The most highly likely reason for his dismissal was due to focus on politics and probably ignored his studies. I believe Wedi Amar seemed to express similar view.

            I am not sure how the Wollo’s connection had started. The first time I heard this story was from Major Dawit’s interview.
            I know and spoken to two IA’s childhood friends who have known IA since his childhood and went to the same school. Obviously, this version is a word of mouth. Unless IA had spent some summer vacations in Wollo, they believe, IA had completed his schooling in Eritrea.

            For many people, Mesfin’s interview has given them the smoking gun they have been looking for the last 50 years. Some even went further and sensationalised it as “Bomb”. IA’s connection with Ethiopia has been rumoured since he joined ELF. It had resurfaced during the London meeting.
            Personally, I do not buy these load of crap and rather focus on IA’s incompetence.

          • saay7

            Selamat David:

            Since I am the ገለገለ ሰባት who said Mesfin Hagos dropped da bomb, let me explain why. A number of people had heard the hitherto secret role of Isaias Afwerki on the eve of Eritrean independence. If I had heard about it, it means Mesfin told someone he trusts who told someone he trusts who told someone he trusts etc. And prior to Mesfin disclosing the info publicly for the first time, you may recall I was pleading with him to do in these pages. Why?

            First of all this is very different from stories of IA in his 20s, in Leila Mekonnen, in Addis, in the field. A lot of that interests other people (those who determine political decisions via psychological profile: a legitimate approach to intel); I am focusing on what he said and did on the eve of Eritrean independence, as told by someone who has a reputation for understatements.

            And what Mesfin says is not revealing just for what IA believed (that Eritrea is better off in not just federal arrangement with Ethiopia but joint governance); its also revealing that by the time the Ghedli veterans were ready to give us an independent country they were also given us a man at the helm over whom they have zero power. The dictatorship was baked-in the independence. Mesfin said his piece (hell no!) in February 91; but as Sam showed it was being discussed—-in Dimxi Hafash—post independence and as the ESAT interview of OLF chair shows, the three parties —EPLF, TPLF, OLF—-we’re discussing it in May 1991, on the eve of independence in Massawa.

            Again, why is any of this relevant now? It demonstrates dramatically the one man and only one man has Eritrea’s fate in his hands since 1991; that whatever direction he is taking it there is nobody to stop him and there never was.

            All the people who do geneology and count where he is from never did before they saw the level of his cruelty. It is so unfathomable people look for explanations and some have arrived at the conclusion of it must be because he hates Eritreans. This is not ancient stuff: it is in Andeberhans book about he is so mad with people ridiculing his ancestry he will return Eritrea back to Ethiopia just as he brought it forth. (Of the threat I wonder which is delusional: that he thinks he alone brought Eritrea’s independence and he alone can give it back.)

            and no it doesn’t matter that he is an engineering school drop out. U til he corrects and gives advice to a degreed engineer. And then only to highlight his level of arrogance.

            saay

            Ps:holy typos! Will correct later.

          • David Samson

            Selamat SAAY,

            You were not in mind when I used the word bomb. I also did not read SAM’s comment. I have now and spares me from the long Heteta as the Kitcha analogy fits in to my thinking.

            Disclaimer: some of the dates might be wrong as my memory is fading.

            We had federation in 1950s.

            In the 1970s (I think 76), in East Germany, EPLF held a secret meeting with the Derg. Federation appeared on the menu again.

            During the 6th offensive (Key Kokob Zmecha) when EPLF was at the lowest point, Demshi Hafasf was entertaining Federation to its listeners.

            In 1989, When Major Dawit, was coordinating the coup with the front, the same word appeared again. Major Dawit will never have settled for anything less than “oneness”.

            Imagine the scenario:

            During the short-lived attempt coup (I think it lasted 2-3 days), lots of rumours and conspiracy theories were circulating in Addis.

            If the coup had succeeded and the flip-flop TPLF was persuaded by the then new Ethiopia government to share power, EPLF would have left with two options: to carry on the armed struggle or accept the best offer on the table: Federation.

            I know too many ifs, but If new Ethiopia government had created a stable and a liberal democratic country, the front and its leader might have reached the same conclusions: we can’t win a Protracted War, so let’s settle for Federation.

            Regan just left office, but the anti-communism ideology was on its peak. A shrewd leader could have played the commy card. Given what I know now about IA, I would not envisage him to have changed his Maoist line. After all, this was the same leader who had refused to condemn Soviet Union while our people were burned down by Soviet cluster bombs.

            The more Mefsin and others Ghedli veterans open their mouths, the more left me with many unanswered questions and push me to my “Sceptical mind”.

            It is the same Mefsin who told us IA’s calmed and composed personality and the next morning, changed the story and told us, IA suffers from emotions and not a stable person.

            It gets worse with “Aba Kebdu”( Blame Gheteb). He was IA’s right-hand during the fall out with ENESA. Abraham MIT(RIP) specifically singled him out for creating division and subsequent demise of the organisation.

            He was asked by BBC radio journalist on the where about of G-15. I can’t seem to remember the exact date, but it was around 2010-2012, when he was the EU’s Ambassador. He told BBC, “They betrayed their country at critical time”. The same line as NSU.
            Over a week ago, he told us “IA could not even govern a “Province”, let alone “Mama Ethio”.

            Until they reveal what the know about people who were murdered, killed and disappeared by IA and his enablers during the Ghedli’’s time, they lack credibility and are sour grapes.

            What is my point then? IA is a typical text book dictator. According to my Ex- Tegadelti’s friends, except for Mesfin, most seniors were slapped by IA. Even Mesfin, as a solder was frozen. After he had removed all his nemesis and rivals, he might have convinced himself that he was the “King”. What does a king do- expand his territory he wants to govern? Eritrea was too small for his appetite and was looking for new green pasture. He used Eritrea as his springboard. He looked at his campus. He fancied Congo during the Kabila time in the early 90s. His troops looted some minerals. During the raiding many Eritreans had died and to this day, their names remain unknown.
            Ethiopia naturally comes to him. He thinks he knows the land and people. He also knows there is a big rivalry between the two lands. He has to tread carefully and make the move at the right time.
            In the long run, I strongly believe IA will not settle for a second-in-command. Since he is very week at the moment, he is playing a second fiddle. The ONLY way to govern both land is either through sub regions or federation and IA at helm.

            So, IA eyeing the big prize is NOT because he harbours unionism or has a secret agenda. Dictators do not have values. They are happy to sell their subject to the highest bidder at any cost. All these sacrifices we paid are “Inconsequential “to him, not matter how cruel could it be.
            Sorry! I promised not a long Hateta, but end up with “Gal Megdi” I have known you on the cyber world since the time of Geneisis. I cannot recall any of your articles’, or comments’ you have discussed personality issues. My qualms are with people who are trying to link the dot line: IA = Tigrean Blood= Harbour unionist= Bingo= We told you so.

          • David Samson

            Selamat SAAY,

            My long Hateta post appeared for few minutes, and now nowhere to be seen. Since your diary seemed to be full, I do not want to spoil your “Awel Boon”. Thus, I will not re it.

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            1. Yes he was there but Michael Gabir and now confirmed by Ammar that year the school was over attended and some students from grade 9 were attending in the girls school at E. Gemenen and Michael and IA sat together and one day IA said vulgar things about Muslims and Lowlander Eritreans and Gabir exchanged punches with IA and that continued until end of high school and IA and Gabir fought when they were planning demostration
            Ammar said the 3 years of high school IA was with them and they all went to Addis U and Isaias Afwerki failed his first year and since they do not give u food and lodging if u fail IA was sleeping and sneaking to eat with his friends and constantly complained to Ammar and Gabir that you have been mislead and you are misleading us about ELF, ELF is a Muslims org
            And in Nov or Oct and the date Ammar remembers IA left to the field and that is where the suspicion starts and Michael Gabir predicted that IA will take some of his friends to camp on one hill: meaning he will splinter and so it happened. And Michael and co wrote letter to ELF to alert ELF about them IA
            More proof about his conspiracy IA first order of business after May 24 was to assassinate Wedi Georgo, he guy who was a go between HS and IA: what does he have to hide
            I think the falsification was said by his childhood friend Wedi Fillipo and also Alena wrote that IA Tigrinigized his father’s and mothers name as you said. But Wedi Fillipos said that he changed the name of his older brother to AwAlom from Amare
            Now it is established fact that Hagos and Afwerki were not born in Eritrea and there is no enda aboy Afwerki and aboy Hagos in Tselot

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Semere A. and Berhe,

            The problem with conspiracy theories is that the main story is made up of many events whose probability of occurrence is individually small [the probability of an event being a fraction between 0 and 1]. This makes the probability of the main event, which is a product of these small fractions, extremely smaller.

            Furthermore, are your story tellers such as Ammar reliable witnesses?

            Me thinks, conspiracy theories are manufactured by people who desperately failed to understand and solve a given problem. What is next, are you people going to consult a voodoo priestess on Isaias’ fate, if you have not already done so?

          • iSem

            Hi Simon:
            You are smart guy and am sure you glean conspiracy from a story that has passed through many tellers. IA’s is of the later kind
            1. He before EPLF has any power entered Asmara with confidence and came out safely
            2. He murders teh middle man immediately after independence
            3. In 1993 talks about COnfedration
            4. On th eeve of indepence he talks of joint government

            3. In 1993 talks about COnfedration

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Semere A.,

            First of all, you people claimed that Isaias’ family is not Eritrean? Is there a genetic quality or marker that makes an individual Eritrean or not?

            Step-by-step, you are stripping this man of his identity with the aim of dehumanising him: Not Eritrean, failed his exams, he was an Ethiopian agent, he met Americans secretly, assassinated
            so and so, he advocated confederation ,,,

            If people are dumb enough to let this series of events to happen one after another, then they deserve what they got!

          • iSem

            Hi Simon:
            I can debate that identity,but are we settled with the consipiracy and exaggerate story?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Semere A.,

            A series of events that will succeed one after another without being detected is very, very, very improbable.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi iSem,

            So you think the rumour that he studied his high school in Wollo is wrong then ?

            He can’t be at both places at the same time.

            This is the video I was referring :

            https://youtu.be/Vhc3qO37ga8

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            Well according to Ammar and Gabir he studied in Eri from grade 9 to 12, This can easily verifiable from the leaving exam.. But he may have studied middle school in Wolo. Ammar verified the highschool in Luul M and ur rem your friends Dad also said the same

            Also do u know that the nick name of IA wife is Hilu A**me

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe & Sem,

            The high school or Secondary school he attended is wrong. He was a classmate to Weldeyesus Ammar, Duru’e, Weldedawit, Michael Gabir, Seyoum, and Azeb, at Luel Meconen secondary school. It was already confirmed by all his classmates. Avoid such “made up story” as narrated in the link provided. He also attended his middle school in Eritrea ( at geza Kenisha).

          • Berhe Y

            Dear AH.

            Thank you for clarification.

            Berhe

  • Aregawi Mebrahtu Hagos

    Ethio-Eritrea Sustainable Peace and Development win-win strategy matters much!!

  • Hayat Adem

    Greetings,
    It must be known by now I have nothing but contempt and hate for Isayas. But there was something that didn’t feel right in his vissit to Ethiopia and when he was sheepishly placing his hand on his chest million times and blowing kisses like he turned to a hollywood celebrity. It was not him at all. What did they do to him lose his bearings? How did they crack him to act a kiddy with candy?
    I say, Abiy is the worst leader Ethiopia ever had, save Mengistu. Even Mengistu stands better than Abiy on one account: guarding national interest. Abiy is a total disaster. I am worried, very much worried, things might go out of control for Ethiopia by the coming fall. Summer rains cool tempers and warm hearts. There is always bad omen that follows summer.
    The only safe and prospering corner in Ethiopia will be Tigray. Tigray is pulling all its intellecruals and resources and focusing for the first time on its own. They must have regretted the 27 for thinking adequate growth can be built at the center and then fairly shared amongst. Tigray was exposed to tremendous wealth and wisdom migration. Now, the recent crisis and out blown hate against them was a wake up call. As a minority, they seem to perfectly know that their option is either to be at the top or the bottom. The middle is never for minority groups.
    The reason why Tigreans assumed a majority role while they are a minority is not because of resources or power control. I think the answer to that must be sought in the very Tigrean character of staying steadfast, just, prinçipled, right, loyal and real to the true Ethiopian character even when attacked by other fellow Erhiopian groups. That ia centerdness. Those values always help to stay grounded, and lose gracefully even if you have to for a while.

    • Amde

      Selam,

      Whoever you are, please release Hayat. Or else we will start a HELP – Hayat Emancipation and Liberation Party.

      ጓድ አምዴ

      • Hayat Adem

        haha the great Amde,
        That was a good one.
        That said though, Hayat is under stress. She used to see Ethiopia as emanicipator of the region. She sees now Ethiopia inching to a cliff.

        • Amde

          Selam Hayat,

          Is it the case that Ethiopia is inching to a cliff or is it that you know of some that will push her over the cliff in መስከረም?

          ቅጭ አምጪዎች እቅጩን ይንገሩን።
          Ain’t no ቅጭ like the መስከረም ቅጭ።

          Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Imagine putting Gheteb and Hayat in the same room. World War III? They are both extremes but what if one of them is right? What if? Can Gheteb be right and the rest of us wrong? Can the rest of us be right and Hayat wrong? Think about it.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Paolos. You and Hayat are 100% TPLF twins. She is never standing in the TPLF ring corner alone when you are around. Anyone can read your past posts and see that your are just oozing TPLF bug juice. Have you ever made a negative comment against Hayat? Nah….can’t do that against your TPLF sister can you.

          • Blink

            Dear FM
            He can’t do that . The probability that this quote googling in chief can say one negative about a known weyane propagandist in this forum is equal to the earth not exist tomorrow. The guy is only here to swim along anyone who insult Eritreans and their history while glorifying TPLF.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Blink,
            Why do you guys (Isayass and Isayassists) love to equate your opinions to the physical law of nature? Isayass told us either he remains right or the nature reforms its laws. You did the same thing here.
            That shows how your points are well measured and considered. So, I have one finding here: the relationship of blink’s opinion with the truth is directly proprtional to the relationship of the likelihhod of Paul’s tendency to comment negatively against Hayat.
            Yeyyyy!

          • Blink

            Dear Hayat
            Did your backstage informers told you the bomb in millennium stadium was OLF too ? I am just asking to make sure you remember what you said . The googling in chief can wait a minute or two.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Fish,
            Why should Paul write a negative comment against me? He could but why should he?
            Why do you have
            to evaluate him by the level of negativity he advances against someone?

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            I don’t know since when Gheteb is taken seriously. He was lecturing us about Adulis and how there is no shred of connection between the people north and south of the Mereb. He pops back up a couple of months ago and lectures us on መደመር and cheerleads us on ያመናል በለው። Well for a while I was afraid the role of Awate.com’s resident clown was empty but now I am assured it is.

            Hayat I take seriously – very seriously. I have enormous respect for her actually. That is why I find what she is saying so troubling. She constantly says doom and gloom is around the corner but she wont tell us WHY she thinks it is around the corner. She has the caliber to lead us into her thought process and her logic but she won’t. I wish she was less TPLF partisan and maybe look at things even from a generic Tigrayan nationalist point of view. But we are left assuming she is reflecting the point of view of a certain section of the TPLF.

            As to the characterization of Ethiopian political polarization between a Hayat and a Gheteb, well… my judgement is different. EPRDF has switched its pecking order. More OPDO less TPLF. It just so happened the new boss is a gifted charmer and he has emptied the prisons. Beyond that not much of substance has taken place structurally. ገና ያልተወራረደ ብዙ ሂሳብ አለ – problems and contradictions that have been stifled or stoked or created within the past 27 years.
            We have barely started even talking about how to start talking about them. Definitely not anything worth comparing Abiy to Mengistu.. .

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Sometimes I wonder if the gifted Hayat is one of the dissenting voices with in TPLF, say, Major General Teklebirhan WeldeAregai but then part of me says, she couldn’t be him for the mere fact that when he seems to have grudges against the young PM where his recent concerns are laced with charged up emotions, Hayat on the other hand appears to be a prophet in the wilderness in a private audience with የኢትዮጵያ ኣምላክ where what she says as you put it aptly can not be seen lightly if not frightening.

            As I get older, I am getting less judgmental and try my best to see through the perception of the others whom I have differences of opinions, for instance. And it really got me thinking of the fact that a highly intelligent guy like Gheteb not only giving a supporting hand to a cruel and evil person like Isaias but turned a true and committed disciple who would stand for him no matter what. But then hate the plague of humanity enters the scene so much so that it is so powerful than love and history is replete with people of high intellect where their sense of judgement is clouded with an extreme hate. And Gheteb sadly is not an exception.

            And if history is to attest anything, people like Isaias do not exit by the hands of their enemies but by the hands of their staunch supporters. Till that day comes, they rationalise and intellectualize any departing view that comes from the person they worship as what they have been doing of late in this forum.

          • Amde

            Hi Paulos,

            Funny enough, i am convinced Hayat is almost exactly who she says she is – an Eritrean woman whose intense dislike of the Isayyas regime led her to view TPLF as a salvation and then she got too close to TPLF to retain all her impartiality. All she needs is to step back a little and be a bit more rational than the “a minority is either on top or at bottom” rhetoric. That mind set to me is the essence of TPLF and its world view, and it will lead to its logical end of self-destruction.

            The private audience with የኢትዮጵያ አምላክ is a great visual haha… It is bad enough one of the historical raps about prophets is they dont get believed, but she is frustrating since she can be quite effective as a communicator. If one is to believe mystics, priests, ባህታውያን, visionaries and what not, we are due to enter a short but intensely bad time before a golden age is to be ushered in. So funnily enough her warnings have company, just not in the intensely materialistic and political Awate forums. She should lead us not into blind disconcertation but into a logical and well reasoned out argument as to why Ethiopia and a cliff have a rendez-vous. She is very capable.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            I am proposing a family intervention of Hayat. No brain that huge should be dedicated to a cause so small and so unworthy: rehabilitating the image of Harbegna Weyane. For one thing, it has enough defenders. For another, it’s all hands on deck for Eritreans as we summon the call for our third revolution (peaceful: 1941-1961; armed: 1961-1991; wasted: 1991-2018; emancipation: begins now).

            saay

          • Desbele

            Selam Paulos,
            I appreciate your non-judgmental approach to opinions here. May be i will learn but I skip Gheteb, Blink, Nitricc,Semere Tesfay….just like that. When up-voting i dont mean i always agree sometimes it is for bravery—like Hayat and Emma fearless and not shying to stand their ground against many.on some issues.
            Huge thanks to Saleh G J and Saleh Y for giving us this great community. It gives solace when distressed and feel shameful to share eritreaness with educated people in support of the evil DIA regime.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amde,

            Boy Amde, you sometimes read my mind. I could not have said it all better. To add my own spin:
            I do not get shocked anymore when someone like, ‘Gehteb or Hayat, out of character, say somethings these days.
            ‘Gehteb is a PARTY LINE man. He sticks to his leader’s meandering and puts up a brave face. I am not sure even if he believes what he says, he is not authentic. The man can say the exact opposite of what he said within hours with a straight face. ( if you look closely….. it was due to changes in the leader’s stand)

            I was amused when someone was pointing a finger at ‘Gehteb as an Ethiopian. IA is now an Ethiopian stooge. Why do so many Eritreans refer to their bad Eritreans as Ethiopians.
            We must learn to say Mengistu Hailemariam is an Eritrean.

            In 1969-1970 college years at a party, a couple of my Ethiopia/Eritrean friends talking about the constant question we faced daily of where we are from came up. In order to annoy me, my friends said that they say they are Eritreans, if they have done something good, Ethiopian if they got caught doing something bad.

            That same chromosome or something is being passed down from generation to generation, I tell you.

            I see sudden changes taking places but I don’t think the Ethiopian leadership would buy into this “unity” talk.
            They must know the same problems that existed 50 years ago exists today and why would they expose and subject the poor people to that predicament.

            I thought few years ago the Ethiopian Government might act upon some kind of formal relationship when Djibouti leaders were asking publicly of some kind of “oneness”.
            It appeared, Ethiopia preferred permanent economic connections which I thought was prudent.
            Djibouti now is more important to Ethiopia than Eritrea in economic terms. Eritrea becomes important to Ethiopia only in terms of NOT being the staging ground for our future enemies.

            The fear most Awatistas have of IA uniting Eritrea to Ethiopia before he dies is ridiculous. I presume the Eth. leadership are sane and why would they take in a KNOWN problem, they have seen in recent past.

            It should also be easy to understand the reality of 100 million people and 5 million walking in the same direction. There is a certain “gravitational” force in play and a natural equilibrium will prevail and settle most of the questions.

            Mr. K.H

            P.S I will edit later in case my live spell checker is on duty.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Kim,
            Claiming Mengistu was an Eritrean! That was funny and smart.

            I can tell you one thing: we have Eritreans who are comfortable in their skin and regardless of their ancestry, they act naturally Eritrean. However, being from an Ethiopian ancestry is not comfortable for many. Some of them could have been insulted as Tigrayans or Ethiopians sometime in the past and even if they have one-eighth Tigrayan blood or Ethiopian blood in their ancestry, it leaves a heavy mark in their psyche and they lose faith, trying to erase that one-eighth in whatever way they can. It has nothing to do with the legal definition of an Eritrean–I am not qualified to make an expert explanation but I think it’s a psychological barrier they try hard to ward off and overcome.

            It’s disappointing that some insult people based on their ancestry while others claim to adhere to liberal values and human rights, but yet resort to archaic racial slurs. To me, Individuas who feel Eritrean and say they are, based on law, modern or traditional, are Eritreans.

          • Amde

            Hi Mr. KH,

            Spot on sir.

            Gheteb is such a cautionary tale. One does not become so erudite without being exposed to a looot of writings, and yet here he is – just a parrot of a man. A cockatiel has better independence of thought.

            I am also with you on this IA will re-join Eritrea to Ethiopia hype. It is not going to happen. The current Ethiopia is an ethnic federation with no room for a non-ethnic political unit. Ethiopia itself has many unresolved issues, let alone take on those of Eritrea. I think Eritrea will break apart before that happens, so the nationalist crowd has nothing to fear. And the last thing Abiy and crew want is to reignite this issue, when they are quickly trying to close files that have been lingering open for decades. This is an “Oromo” leader who told Oromo Nationalists in public that their independent Oromiya dream is too small and petty for the great Oromo people. He has bigger visions, and luckily discovered deep pockets willing to finance them. (BTW do you know that he is already alluding to a presidential system to allow Ethiopians to choose their leader directly as opposed to the parliamentary system currently in place?)

            The thing I find interesting is how many Eritreans want economic integration while keeping political integration walled off. Very difficult to reconcile the two. If we know anything about how the modern world works, it is that one trades off pieces of one’s sovereignty for the economic benefits of integration.

            One reading of the Eritrean narrative can be that the regions where most Eritreans live are willing to sacrifice their children to keep the Ethiopians away from the red sea. I mean god forbid Isayyas made a deal on Assab. It is not that he is a tyrant and awful person that irks them the most, but that the Ethiopians show up at Assab. But logic dictates this was inevitable. And with options having had a chance to be developed over the past quarter century, the benefit of Assab is no longer on it being a spot where one charges for stuff going in and out, but as a chip to negotiate the terms for economic integration.

            Paradoxically enough, i think Isayyas is right in where he sees this going. It definitely shouldn’t be the decision of an individual though. I used to say in this very forum that I see the future as “confederation in everything but name only”. Between Ethiopia’s need for security and Eritrea’s need for economic integration, I think that is how it is going to play out.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selam Amde:

            “The thing I find interesting is how many Eritreans want economic integration while keeping political integration walled off.”

            It’s very uninteresting and boring when you consider the fact that some of us have no faith in the political unit (Isaias, Isaiasists, Isaiasism) that will negotiate political integration on our behalf.

            I don’t think economic integration is possible without political reconciliation first. The political vision of Isaiasism has been tested for 27 years: it alienates most Eritreans—almost all of lowland Eritrea, a significant percentage of youth, religious, and business class (your chamber of commerce is still trying to find someone to talk to) and goes to war with all neighbors.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            The big issue in economic integration that would creat is the currency thing.

            It needs to be balanced so that no one feels cheated. Right now Eritrea with the fake exchange rate may be at advantage and that’s going to create a problem sooner or later.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            I would be surprised if the currency issue is in the picture anytime soon. I don’t know the details of how Djibouti and Ethiopia transact, but I think it seems to work fine. Why wouldn’t that work?

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            I am guessing Djibouti has some sort of legitimate banking system, that follows standard norms and regulations, and accountable to somebody.

            Eritrea isn’t. PFDJ does what PFDJ wants. You have followed all the discussion related to currency exchange and the limitation of cash withdraw PFDJ put in place.

            Here is what it did and it gotten away with:

            1) forced the exchange rate (black market 1 us was about 53 Nacfa) to 15 naffs official exchange. Overnight it managed to shutdown the black market because it gave the people 1 month to deposit their cash (called it hording) so everyone deposited.

            2) passed a restriction and allowed only 5000 (300+ US dollars) navigation per month withdrawal. Everything else needs to be done via cheques.

            4) suspended over 400 business who they suspect where violating the exchange method

            4) it almost halfed rentals without any justification what so ever.

            So you tell me, how can anyone managed to operated under such kind of government.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            That seems more of a socialist interference in business than a currency issue. I am assuming transactions will be in USD and skirt the currency problems, but that probably means Ethiopian investors may face future problems of extracting their earnings in foreign currency.

            I am sure it is a tough but not insurmountable problem. The whole playing around with common currency or pegging exchange rates etc led to war last time and as far as I am concerned it is best left aside. For it to work the two central banks will have to work i tight co-ordination and I think we are very far away from that.

            My guess is deals between the governments will work out for political reasons, but individual Ethiopian investors may eventually be frustrated away.

            I am actually curious to hear what you would advise the Eritrean side and the Ethiopian side, assuming no change in the players in the next three years. Let’s say pfdj is still in power (with or without IA) and so is Abiy.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            Sorry in the delay in getting back to you. I had taken some time off but at the same time, I need to take time to do a little bit of research before I respond to your question “what you would advise the Eritrean side and the Ethiopian side, assuming no change in the players in the next three years.”

            Thank you for asking, and I am not sure I am qualified to give an advice but I will attempt based on my limited knowledge of the subject.

            First thought I agree that, everything should be done based on proper norms and regulations and perhaps at this moment, it may be wise to use USD or other forms of credit for trade.

            And any solution should be considered weather PFDJ or IA are in power or NOT but a mutual beneficial transaction that doesn’t hurt anyone country over the other.

            I was not suggesting they should have common currency but Eritrea artificial exchange rate and control of the economy will create a problem if it’s not resolved and allow the market to dictate the value of the currency.

            I don’t have sufficient knowlsged in terms of the living expenses between the two countries, but I think they my be on par (for example in Addis and Asmara). I googled to see if there is some data and I found a website called wwwDOTexpatistanDOTcom and was able to list the two cities. On the surface they both appear to be the same.

            So to demonstrate, let’s see a simple example.

            Suppose exchange rates are as follows:

            100 US = 2700 ETB (legal) = 3700 ETB (black market)
            100 US = 1500 (NCf (legal) = 2500 Nacfa (black market)

            Let’s say for example you can buy a habesha kidan for 100 US dollars. In Ethiopia it will cost you 3700 Birr, and you go in Asmara and sells is for 3700 Nacfa. Then you exchange your Nacfa to US dollars…and you make the 100 US to 150 US (at the black market). It means someone can make 50 US for every kidan habesha..

            This profit is created because the exchange rate is artificial and not because the cost of living in Asmara is cheaper or different than in Addiss.

            Now take this to another level with all the goods that will be imported from Addiss (Coffee, Sugar, Teff, Butter, Leather, etc).

            In actual fact, it should actually cost more in Asmara than in Addis because of the transportation cost and the middle men involved in between who have to take a cut.

            In my opinion, exchange rate in Eritrea should be higher compared to Ethiopia because, Eritrea does not have goods to export. So for this to work out and to be fair, then Nacfa should be at least 15% or 20% cheaper than Birr, so at the end of the transaction, it all works out to be fair with little profit margin.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            Sorry for not getting back sooner.

            Can I say again that I will be happy to join as an investor if you plan on starting anything in our neck of the woods? You are always calm and practical. Much kudos.

            The concern and nervousness we collectively have is the secret nature of the deals that are being implemented. As far as we can tell nothing is being negotiated now – it is all implementation. A friend of a friend talked to someone who is close to the current Arat Kilo team, and he was given a cryptic “ገና ምን አይተህ።” So, who knows what else is in the pipeline?

            There are rumors that the Abiy regime will introduce new Birr notes primarily for financial reasons, but also for defensive reasons. TPLF is awash with Birr cash, and if one believes twitter and facebook this ocean of Birr is being deployed to undermine the government. So, any currency activity will probably be to flush out undeclared cash. Anything to do with Eritrea will most likely be a second stage. Knowing what everybody knows now, as in what triggered the Badme war, I would imagine neither side will set up a permanent Nakfa-Birr currency arbitrage situation. The two have to float freely, or if pegged, they must be backed by a central body or centralized process.

            We will see how it goes.

            Thank you for spending the time.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            The Eritrean currency crisis is probably out of desperation, and if the regime got enough cash injection from the new clients and economic and tourist activities, it will probably ease off shortly. As much as people downplaying it, it will have a significant impact on the economy and people’s lives for Eritrea. If we look at the Eritrea highland for example, the basic needs for their daily lives all comes from Ethiopia (Teff, livestock, butter, coffee, tea, sugar, traditional clothing etc). I don’t know if there is any other place (unless they sourced it locally) that can get it from.
            Now the same goods are probably shipped to Sudan or Dubai and imported back to Eritrea at marked up prices.

            So if the roads and boarders are open, it will be natural that there will be plenty that will come. The people will certainly will be happy and that creates, positive news and people from abroad will flock in (with opening of Ethiopian airlines) bring in USD etc. Everything will have ripple effect.

            So if the PFDJ government doesn’t interfere then it should just benefit by the increased activities.

            I am guessing IA will not interfere this time because, PMAA gave him that no body was able to give him. Contrary to what some awatista said (I will comment in another thread) he will cherish this relationship with Abiy, going beyond expectation and bending backwards to accommodate Ethiopia needs. For example, on many occasion with TPLF before independence had a reason to fight but he held his ground and took it. Even before 1997, reading the letters he exchanged with Melles, he was patient and did not want to the conflict that was brewing to get out of hand. Did you see what the PM did, kissing his hands, he really have IA wrapped up n his pocket.

            Thank you for the vote of confidence:). If I had to look for investment opportunity in Ethiopia, I can’t get over this numbers over my head ( Ethiopia, a country of 105 million people, heavily depends on imports, which totaled $US 16.7 Billion in 2016 and exports totaling US$2.8 Billion for the same year.. What on earth is eating all this imports and find something that can be fine locally.

            In Eritrea, I think anything to do with tourism is the best bet.

            Berhe

          • Selam Amde,

            Introducing new birr notes may be a good idea. It may expose those corrupt officials who had been hoarding money in the basements. Flooding the market with too much birr will cause inflation, but at the same time they are going to lose money themselves due to decreased money value. These are going to be difficult times for the nouveau riches of the previous government. They are already smuggling foreign currency out of the country in millions.

            Nakfa-Birr currency arbitrage situation will kill ethiopia’s economy. Just imagine camel loads of birr and nakfa, especial counterfeit money coming in to the ethiopian market. You can’t trust a regime that has been accused of human trafficking. Trading up to 2000 birr at the border area, and only with hard currency for exportable items introduced by tplf, was a good idea, i think.

          • saay7

            Mr KH:

            Would you agree with me that our armed struggle was about the territorial and popular sovereignty of Eritreans? I am not saying you should agree with it, but would you agree with me that we claim it was for it. Ok fine fine, even if you don’t agree, can you for the sake of argument say it was?

            Then, how does the Ethiopia “peace” treaty complicate that? We have no popular sovereignty: no say on who governs us, no say on our formula for co-existence, no say on what our political units are. Then, the peace treaty ends one form of loss of our territorial sovereignty (occupation) with another: Ethiopians given preferential treatment to establish business in Eritrea, to travel to Eritrea, to live in Eritrea. Heck, you even have preferential treatment over information: I bet you you will know about the details of all the agreements Ethiopia and Eritrea signed before we do. I bet you Ethiopian prisoners (Colonel Bezabeh for example) will be released before our political prisoners. You see what I mean?

            It’s not your fault! Ethiopia probably has to negotiate harder with Somaliland and heck even Puntland (two non-States) than with Eritrea. The former have people they report to; the latter is a one man show.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hi saay,

            I read this from you,

            “Then, how does the Ethiopia peace treaty complicate that? We have no popular sovereignty: no say on who governs us, no say on our formula for co-existence, no say on what our political units are. Then, the peace treaty ends one form of loss of our territorial sovereignty (“secession”) with another (“economic disenfrachisement”): Ethiopians given preferential treatment to establish business in Eritrea, to travel to Eritrea, to live in Eritrea. Heck, you even have preferential treatment over information: I bet you you will know about the details of all the agreements Ethiopia and Eritrea signed before we do. I bet you Ethiopian prisoners (Colonel Bezabeh for example) will be released before our political prisoners. You see what I mean?”

            And at first I was a bit taken aback.

            But then, I swear all Ethiopians on this forum will back me up, if you put in the word “Eritrean” and “Eritrea” in your post without changing a damn thing (I put in “secession” and “economic disenfranchisement”), and that was exactly the sentiment most Ethiopians had in the years between 1991 and 1997.

            And we all know how that ended up.

            All to say, yes I agree these decisions are best made by authorities that have some level of popular legitimacy.

            Amde

          • Desbele

            ጋሽ ኣምዴ
            በትክክል ተመሳሳይነቱ ይገርማል።
            ከጦርነቱ ወራት በፊት ኢትዩጵያ የጋራ ኤርትራ የብቻ የሚል የመከፋት ስሜት በጣም ጎልቶ ነበር። ይህ ማለት ኤርትራውያን በኢትዮጵያም በኤርትራንም እንደልባቸው ተዘዋውረው መስራት ሲችሉ ኢትዮጵያው ያን ግን ኣይችሉም ነበር። ስለዚህ ጉዳይ ያን ግዜ ስባጋዲስ በሚባል ስም ሪፖርተር ጋዜጣ ላይ ተከታታይ ጽሁፍ ያወጣ ነበር.።ኣሁን ነገሩ ሁሉ የተገላቢጦሽ ሆነ። ይገርመና ኣሎ

          • saay7

            Sir Amde:

            Let’s explore that further then.

            Who benefited in 1991-1997?

            PFDJ-allied Eritreans
            TPLF-allied Ethiopians

            Who is going to benefiting from this new arrangement?

            PFDJ allied Eritreans
            Nouveau Riche Ethiopians (allied with TPLF)

            Now, what has changed other than TPLF is out of the picture? There is just a new broker in Ethiopia. But the rigged system remains.

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            I don’t disagree. It is just eerie how one could use the same exact words almost 30 years later except swapping the names.

            I guess we will see how things work out, but the main difference this time remains the outside factor. Apparently the EU is really interested in nipping refugee outflows from Eritrea and the region – since it is bringing rightist parties into prominence in countries of the supposedly liberal west. They have deep pockets and they are almost desperate enough to try anything and so something like the kind of common ID that Fanti mentioned may be in the works.

            It is also possible some of the Emirates money may go to developing a third port to serve potash export. I can see how an investor would really want a believable peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea before investing a dime in the potash extraction business, and a port just a few tens of kilometers away makes it an even sweeter deal.

            Those are the kinds of serious financial interests that just did not exist the last time round. The Ethiopian money may really be very small potatoes.

            Amde

          • iSem

            Hi Ame:

            Has something change in how Sir Amde process logic now?
            “All to say, yes I agree these decisions are best made by authorities that have some level of popular legitimacy”

            We are not asking GoE conduct referendum and vote on every decision that it makes regarding the peace and dealing with Ethiopia and everyone else. We want to have parliament like u do, we ant transition planning like u di from Z to HD to AA, we want to have elections to elect our reps to perfect and refine our system as you do. When we want our G15 be released like urs, we want to visit our journalist in prison, we also want (Sal Look away for one second hahha) to have to option to split from Eri as u do.
            What have all these all to do with the peace, we are not deciding our fate, we want to demonstrate like u so we can cultivate new leaders like did, if the peace deal was held under this circumstances, no sane Eritreans will object to it except maybe the IA minions

            why were u taken aback, Saay has never been so right, and he made my day when some time day said, “dictatorship was baked in before independence), Saay is this close to becoming Saleh A2 Younis:

            A2= A squared

          • Amde

            Selam iSem,

            I was taken aback because he used the term “invasion” which he later clarified to “economic invasion” Those are still intemperate words to be honest. What does “economic invasion” actually mean? No single Ethiopian business entity (other than Ethiopian Airlines as far as I know) has been granted license or started operation yet.

            I think – all things being equal – the implication of economic relationship between a 5mln people economy and a 100mln people economy must be properly understood and internalized. What if the news is “Ethiopian businesses constitute 30% or 40% or 60% of investment”? Assuming things proceed at current speed, I can certainly see that being the headlines for next year and the next few years after that. Is that investment or invasion? Is it to be rejected?

            From IA’s point of view, this is a godsend – because it will allow him some flexibility in doing some demobilization.

            I agree with you it would be nice if there were institutions in place to vet and argue these deals. But my guess is much of it is already baked in – simply because there are too many powerful external interests pushing for a peace and then economic integration between the two.

            Amde

          • iSem

            Hi Amde:
            Yes, it is not invasion in the typical sense, but it is colonization: think about it, there is no free enterprise for Eritreans, they cannot even withdraw more than NK5000 of their own many in a month but Ethiopians who had a head start are allowed, with deals no one knows about, the citizen cannot and is unable to compete, this is like during the Italian rule, when Eritreans were not allowed to walk in the street they helped pave.
            In the absence of institutions and freedom for Eriteans all the good intentions of investment is colonization, but i tis not Ethiopia’s fault, they are working for themselves, but they should be very careful no to propose alone in Eritrea, is that too much to ask
            Before the investment deals, before anything else, since the military threat is over now and since that was the reason PFDJ said he ppl are in prison, IA should release every political prisoners and every prisoners. It is simple. Short of that the perception is invation with the blessing of IA, the intention does not matter, Abiye now has so much power and he can tell Issu, now that I am the leader, release my brothers (pentes) and the political prisoners as I did

          • Amde

            Selam iSem,

            You yourself say it is “deal no one knows about” but you are quick to label it either as colonization or invasion.

            Does Eritrea have economic deals with other foreign investors? Is that colonization? Or is it colonization just because it is Ethiopians that are investing?

            Amde

          • iSem

            Hi Amde:
            There is no contradiction here.No one knows about it, shrouded in secrecy given the issues I mentioned. No freedom for Eritreasn, but freedom for Ethiopians, no Eri Pente can pray in Eri but Ethiopian Pente can, no Eri prisoner is released, Ethiopian prison maybe released
            Yes, there are other deals and is also shourded in secrcrecy , I should not spell it out for a smart guy like you why the Ethiopia deal is special
            There is a deal with Tureky,but there is can never be union with Turkey, whisically or through vote , barring geophysical movement that is:-)
            I may not be opposed to union with Ethiopia under a different circumstance, there is this guy in this forum who a few times told the supporters like Ghetb and Semere T, who are now tight lipped about the IA abuse now this: “if future parlamentarians say bury that Merbe River, u cannot do anything about it”. Can u guess who is this dude?
            I am quoting iSem verbatim here. This was in response to the accusation that I want union/andet with Ethiopia U see am consistent
            But u know my problem is dictatorship, not borders, no ports, they are useless to me compared to the other issue of free will, freedom, basically I hate government, I want to tame them and dictator governments like IA , I do not want to tell u what I want to do to them, because u will stop talking to me:)

          • FishMilk

            Hi ISem. Why don’t you tell me about how easy it is for an Ethiopian or international investor these days to pull out hard currency from Ethiopia these days? Both Ethiopia and Eritrea need desperately to open up their markets to international banking and to allow for open FOREX.

          • iSem

            hi FM:
            Really and when did this dawn to u guys (Isaisist).
            I am a free marketer, but that is not the issue here
            Let me dit for u”
            IA is treating Eritrea as his own private washroom. I am not saying house because even that he must consult his wife. Does that bother u?

          • FishMilk

            Hi iSem. Like I have said before, PIA & PFDJ should financially support your type opposition efforts , as you are simply a distraction to those of us who seek real political reform in Eritrea. Ask any Eritrean on the street that you do not know, what they think about some at Awate com asserting that PIA has sold Assab or that he is for unionism or confederation, and see how they will react. They will laugh in your face! You guys are simply a joke and not serious. Maybe you can apply for a job at CNN or Backyard Burgers.

          • iSem

            Hi FM:
            Forget the guy in the street, you guys are so confused now by IA, but i tis too traumatic for ppl like you to admit. When we say IA sold Eri we do not mean Ethiopia paid of it, that would be impressive, he gave it away. If IA behavior does not disturb u, then you are not worthy of debating, if IA;s behavior in the last 20 years does not bother u, and u still cling to the idea that he will reform,that reform will come from him and PFDJ , then no matter what you say, I have to believe that u are a mercenaries like Gheteb, who in in the last 40 years has to find one fault of IA. Sorry I run out nice words to describe your sustained apologies of IA
            How much humiliation does it take for you guys to jump ship
            Real reform? How can u dream that without real intention when one man, one crazy man is playing you: No negotiation with Ethiop before they leave our borders, and now negotiate with Ethio before they leave and I am sure ur likes will find some excuse of IA gets emboldened tomorrow and say: we have created joint government with Ethiopia. What will u say if he comes with a sequel and says that, u still tolerate him for REAL REFORM?
            It is just human nature, we saw it in the Dergi era when some Eritreans sold to Dergi spied on their follow Eritreas and u guys are doing the same in the name of reform. But the last laugh will be mine not yours. Write that down.

          • FishMilk

            Hi iSem. A few months ago you said this ‘We had relative peace when Badme was under Ethiopia, we can even have justice, democracy and peace even of Ethiopia occupies Asseb’. You have been willing to sell Eritrea out insolong as PIA/PFDJ are removed whereas I have not. Gheteb and I clearly have different positions in regards PIA/PFDJ, but we are both nationalists. He and I can sit at any time and have a cold brew in Asmara and discuss our differences. You and I cannot. Anyways, I will never see you and your lot in Asmara.

          • iSem

            hi FishMilk:
            Yes, I said we can have justice and election while Badme is occupied, they are unrelated, the ppl who guard the border are military and are not running for election, they are not election officials, they are not judges, they are not jornalist. So that was excuse. And even if that was true (we cannot have those values while war hangs according to PFDJ) then prisoners should have been released the moment the new Eritrean leader, who was elected by acclimation of IA declared peace.
            And you not telling truth, no evidience I am willing to sell Asseb and if I am in that position I will sell it with a price tag that will make every Eritrean a millioner for life and then raking royalty and poor Ethiopia canno not afford it
            No, u and Gheteb are not nationalist, ur sell out, u do not care about people, u care about stones because u relate to stones.
            Yes you will not see me in Asmara and Eri because you will be deported/ or run to where u came from when one day justice burn you. I do not believe you have deep roots in Eri like your president any ways, so u are correct, u will not see me

          • FishMilk

            Hi iSem. LOL. Those were words that you said not mine! You can’t weasel out of what you said!

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amde. Conditions of investment in Eritrea will determine if Ethiopians, or any other foreign investors, will be attracted Eritrea. At least up until now, save for a few large investments such as Nevsun, there is no international private investments in Eritrea. Eritrea has no private investment office and there are no established private investment procedures. Up until now, one had to discuss international private investments directly through the president’s office. If Eritrea have had a transparent investment process and reasonable banking services, many private international investors would have entered the scene a long time ago.

          • Kaddis

            Hi FishMilk,

            Very sensible including your entry on forex. Investors put their money planning end to end including repatriation of profit. Ethiopian’s despite the current problem locally prefer to invest in Adama or Debre Brhan than Asmara. The rest is PR from our side and bogus fear from Eritrean oppos side.

          • Selam Amde,

            I would have said, let the investments come first, and let the complaint be heard later. I really do not believe that ethiopians are going to invest much in eritrea, unless the conditions are very attractive.

            Local and international investors in ethiopia were attracted by cheap raw material, big labor force, low wages, big market, cheap electricity and the possibility to import tax free machinery and tax vacations of export items for a period of time, which were very appealing for the investors.

            Now, if you are a businessman and you want to invest in eritrea your product must be mainly export oriented and not for local consumption. Exporting capital from ethiopia in order to produce consumer goods in eritrea, and re-exporting them back to the ethiopian market does not seem the right choice business-wise.
            Transportation will increase the cost of the product, and the goods may not be competitive price-wise in the ethiopian market.

            It is really premature to complain that ethiopian capital will flood eritrea, and it will play the major role in eritrea’s economy. On the contrary, eritrea should work hard to attract investment and not worry about economic invasion. Let the investment come first, and one can see the rest later on.

          • Amde

            Hi Horizon,

            Agreed..

            That first batch that went are people in the services sector. Ethiopians are not investing in manufacturing in Ethiopia let alone in Eritrea.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            Can we say eri opposition now days facing the same problem like ethiopian opposition used to face from 1991 to 1998 (before the war) ? and can we say history repeat itself (like an eye for an eye)?And why is that there is no much complication when it comes to ethio-sudan/Djibouti relationship?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,

            I hope there is no misunderstanding on what I am saying. I will try to be concise and to the point.

            I did not believe in the struggle when it was going on. I did not believe it afterwords. I thought our potential was severely damaged. Later on I accepted it without believing in it.
            I became a believer at Awate university, particularly at Ismail AA class.
            Eritrea is an independent sovereign nation.

            Ethiopia minus Eritrea found its footing and is moving forward. Not out of the woods but is promising to reach the plateau. It is doing better than it ever done before.

            Eritrea is struggling to find its footing to continue its journey.
            The peace treaty:
            I don’t exactly know what it is but it appears Ethiopia at least removed the threat of war from its journey.
            PMAA cannot wait indefinitely until all your …”no say in”…questions are answered.

            The territorial invasion and economic invasion you are bringing up is a clever and sophisticated way of transferring responsibility to Ethiopia.

            I hope when PMAA is in Seattle or L.A Eritreans (oh God not Nitricc) should pose questions that is bothering them while at the same time acknowledging him to be the PM of Ethiopia. He should never criticize his neighbor he is trying to get along with and get by.

            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            Mr KH:

            I don’t know that I am asking of Ethiopians or your Prime Minister to do anything but what is in the best interest of Ethiopia.

            One of the worst things about Internet forums is the overuse of the word “Hitler.” I would like your indulgence to use it now: PM Abiye bear hugging, using endearing terms, fixing the language of Isaias and equating the person with Eritrea is not in the best interest of Ethiopia. Victims of Isaias vastly outnumber his supporters. Remember: he is credibly accused of committing grave crimes against humanity and if he wore a turban he would be in Guantanamo Bay now.

            If you still think “my PM is not fallible, he is not making a huge mistake, he is prioritizing peace”, fine. Just don’t wonder why some of us are not jumping up and down in excitement. We have seen this movie before and it does not have a happy ending.

            saay

          • Tesfu

            Selam KH,
            ” why do so many Eritrean refer to their bad Eritreans as Ethiopian”
            these line of thinking stem out of bad outcome.Thirty years of struggle, ten years of promising, then two decades of open prison camp. who would do to his own people unless you are from other kilil? do some Ehiopians love suffering of Eritreans, to some extent, unfold history tells you what you wanted to know. DIA is prime example of this and that.
            Some fool eritreans are parroting a line, even though the country has been going down hill and still find excuse to see other direction.

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            “It should also be easy to understand the reality of 100 million people and 5 million walking in the same direction. There is a certain “gravitational” force in play and a natural equilibrium will prevail and settle most of the questions.”

            That is exactly the reservations some eritreans have about the peace initiative, and not that real union is coming.

            Just imagine the following factors: eal dominating eritrean skies and opening eritrea to the world, ethiopian shipping lines and navy having an important role in the red sea, eritrea depending on ethiopia for electricity, the big ethiopian market attracting eritrean investment and business, eritreans moving to the center for different reasons, etc.. Where will all these put eritrea. You can imagine.

            Eritrean sovereignty is not affected directly by the ‘union’ myth, because it is not going to happen by a decree of one sort or other, but it is going to be undermined by the above factors. These are factors that function by themselves beyond anybody’s control, provided they are implemented and there is peace, cooperation, economic integration, etc.

            Although the wall-builders have now become bridge-builders, nevertheless, the above factors were among the main reasons they wanted their wall in the first place, despite what they said, because it protects eritrea from ethiopia’s influence as well. It is easy to say NO to union, but there is nothing one can do about the effect of peace and cooperation on eritrea.

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            There are two possibilities:

            If the Government of Eritrea as business as unfriendly as its record says it is (ranked next to dead last, beating only war-torn Somalia, 189/190 in World Banks Doing Business list, then the Ethiopians, like the Eritrean businessman, will flee as fast as they came.

            If the Gov of Eritrea moderates its behavior because IAs heart is still in need of an anti-fibulator from all that accelerated beating due to all the love he received, then we will be thankful because business hire local employees, stimulate the economy, renovate run down buildings. But the whole time we will be saying, like Trump voters, “we are losing our country because our government hates us.

            The solution is something that has nothing to do with you: a Hadas government presided over by a man of whom it is said (which surreal affection and admiration): he loves a rich Eritrea but not rich Eritreans.

            saay

            saay

          • David Samson

            Selam KH,

            It is good you did not use the word “All” Eritreans as I am not one of the many.

            I believe the blame and scapegoat cultures are common in most societies.

            I do not know if you are in to football (Soccer).

            If you look at France’s world cup football team, over 50% of the them have African’s roots. In fact, some people joked Africa won the 2018 world cup.

            The English and Belgium National football teams had similar numbers. Germany had two from Turkish’s roots. One of them is Mesut Ozil, has generated the biggest news in today’s press.

            Just before the world cup, Ozil photographed with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan. He was heavily criticised in the German’s media.

            Germany’s world cup tournament was a disaster. The same group of players who won the world cup four years ago, and who then won the praises of their “Germanness” are now be used as “Scapegoat” for team’s failure.

            Ozil received hate mail and threats. He resigned from the national team and wrote a 3- page damning report to German Football’s federation.
            “I am German when we win, but I am an immigrant when we lose,” Ozil said.

            Personally, I do not blame the BODYMASS PM for Eritrean’s woes. He is doing a terrific job for “Mama Ethio”.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam David Samson,

            I think, France won the world cup in 1998. At that time, more than half of their starting team were of African heritage. They were referring to them as a ‘team without boarders’.

            I was rooting for the small country (4 Million) of Croatia. I am pretty sure the Croatia players went home and told their fans that they played against the world and lost.

            Mr. K.H

          • iSem

            Hi Paulos:
            Gheteb is never be right, he is wrong in every thing he said about the struggle, Hayat has admitted mistakes, balanced views in many things, Gheteb never in the 41 years since he was IA worshiper, he never criticized him, he never saw a mistake, Gheteb even told MS that the person who lead the Keren attack in 1977 wa snot Affa, was not Beraki but IA
            Comparing HA and Gheteb is not even comparing apples and oranges,,it is comparing Gaba and Akkaat, one is a midget and the othere a giant.
            And do not be fooled by his excessive arrogance here, he is chicken in person. You remember he he said to Tsatse that from 300 students only he and an other follow student were EPLF supporters? He right, but what he did not mention is that when the late Michael Gabir was talking in class about Eri history his follow student disagreed with Gabir and when Gabir quipped were u baptized in Fiflil, the student without skipping a bit replied to the great teacher that: “no, I was baptized in Ella-Abdella” and what Gheteb did when Gabir was attacking his org, he was bowing and twiddling with fingers

          • Paulos

            Semerile,

            You know Gheteb in person? And didn’t know he was a student of the legendary Michael Gabir. And I wonder why the so much hate in him??? Why?????

          • iSem

            Hi Paul:
            No I do not know him in person, I know him here but we attended the same school, I graduated over a decade after him
            We had common teacher in Michael Gabir and Gere,
            So, no hate is not personal, never met him, never had tea with him, only met him here,but since I have connections with his classmates and Kerenites, I know about him edit teqawemtti newhi eyu:-)

            I am sorry u perceive my attacks on a sworn enemy of our people as hate
            Paul: do u love Gheteb? Then, u are true to ur name, Paul, love:-)

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            Michel Gabir was my history teacher in grade 9 when he was a national service teacher. Now you know why I am infatuated by the subject 🙂 I was very close to him. In the seventies when he fled Keren, he settled in Mushi, a village in the outskirts of Keren with his bride and I visited him regular for an inspiring chat, coffee and meals–I was assigned to that place. And if you read my book “Of Kings and Bandits, the character Gebrerebbi is an impersonation of Memhir Mchael Gabir. I can tell you one thing: Michale was not a man who minces words and was as brave as they come, and a patriot to the core. If he was to be here and read some comments, I don’t think he would do anything less that spitting on the faces of some commentators, inclusing those who claim to be his ralatives and his students. That much I know about him.

            On Isaias, who was seen off to join the ELF by Woldeyesus Ammar, Memhir Michael berated Woldeyesus: that is a disservice to the struggle or something along those lines. And you know what Isaias said, according to Dan Connel, awagimomna, the ELF did according to him, and he has not even joined the ELF but has been in Kessela for a few days. Make what you will of that, but one day I will ask forgiveness, and apologize to those I didn’t listen to, or those I thought hated Isaias and were defaming him, and those I argued against on that matter. Now I know they were right and myself, and other idealists of the time were wrong. I have apologized for my naivety for along time and I still think I haven’t apologized enough.

          • iSem

            Saleh:
            Please clarify this” “……but one day I will ask forgiveness, and apologize to those I didn’t listen to, or those I thought hated Isaias and were defaming him, and those I argued against on that matter. Now I know they were right and myself, and other idealists of the time were wrong. I have apologized for my naivety for along time and I still think I haven’t apologized enoug”

          • Saleh Johar

            Sure iSem,
            What our elder veterans told us about him when we were young, naive, and knew next to nothing about Isaias’ motives, personality, etc, I and many others thought they were exaggerating because no one could be that bad. The many with whom I argued include close relatives with whom I had the liberty to discuss it openly, without fear of retribution: my uncles the Said Saleh and Abdella Suleiman and my cousin Ustaz Mahmoud. And a few others I can not name for fear of modern-day retribution. As young recruits, the elder veterans were eager to share information with us, but we were too idealistic and preferred to be skeptical. Well, that proved to be too skeptical though, by 1977, I was convinced whatever I heard of that man has many truths in it. I hope that explains it.

          • iSem

            Thanks Saleh:
            But I do not blame your idealist generation for being skeptical, the elders who told u the truth did not use that true info, they took the high road against someone who does not know a high road, they were gentlemen against a thug and we are where are. The moment they knew he was in Kagew, takiing to the enemy, they should have considered that treason and purged his nascent organization and his collaborators would have been irrelevant, the arithmetic is against them and the Kebessa/Christian that those elders feared so much would have aligned with the winner and we would be in a much better position

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi iSem,
            Yes, you are right. That is how it appears on the surface. But in 1975-76, with the new wave of recruits, the slogan that was echoing was that of unity at any cost, and there were no ears willing to listen to anything. Add to that the naivete. Even talking about Isaias in any negative manner was so sensitive. The situation was so tense it was summoning religious and regional divide, and Isaias and his cohorts framed it as such. It was so tense it led to the sad confrontation between ELF forces and what came to be known as “falul”. I do understand why they refrained from taking bold action hoping Toteel’s political school will cure it. That is because the lefties were convinced it was an ideological divide between reactionaries and progressives and as such needed a political solution. At the same time, those who were branded “reactionaries” were all suggesting a bold resolution. The two years of no action ate at the cohesion of the ELF forces and serious branding of “adharharti vs gesgesti’, all self-aggrandizing gimmicks, and it reached to a very precarious situation. One group became increasingly militaristic, with an EPLF leaning view, and practically pulled from battles, distributed leaflets accusing their own organization, etc. The overwhelming view in the ELF was that everything should be solved through dialogue and education–you k ow hoe the EPLF solved its internal problems. In short, the issue is very sensitive to this day and many are careful not to raise it because it aggravates many veterans. And that skirmish, which is to this date mentioned as a civil war, a hundred times bigger than it actually was, has a lot to do with that. I can’t go beyond this because it is in the folders of a book project.

          • Hayat Adem

            Rhe Great Amde,
            The one person in the world I never wanted to piss of is you if I understood by ቅጭ አምጪዎች. I don’t think you can be suspecting Tplf for any event after September as you declared them weak, dead or irrelevant. When there was a question from someone, I remember you saying “Tplf can go and Andm and Opdo can sustain Eprdf.” Horizon and you (Amde) said something to that effect.
            I said, wow…Tplf was giving everything. PM seat: given. Eprdf chair: given. Federal top posts in the army and intelligence: all gone. Now, people are asking them not only to give but also just leave. Leave Eprdf! How much can be asked of Tplf? That question seems laxury now as Tplf is being asked to leave Eprdf. Imagine this and judge: Tplf is accused of controlling too much power. Now think reasonably: if it had too much power and it is no longer now, what it means is either it has conceded defeat which makes it democratic or it was not democratic and defeated in non-democratic way. Which one is it, Amde?
            So, the cliff thing is despite that. Tplf saved Ethiopia in 1991. I always believe Tplf will always remain ready to sacrifice to save the country from near and far jackals. I don’t believe persons like Abiy can sacrifice their finger for the sake if the country.

          • Amde

            Selam Hayat,

            Please don’t put words in my mouth – where did I say TPLF is “… weak, dead or irrelevant….”
            About the EPRDF, i will repeat what I said and it is factually correct. ANDM and OPDO have the numbers in parliament to form a working majority and thus maintain Abiy as PM. Description is not prescription. The best recourse is for TPLF to stay within EPRDF and do what it can. Otherwise it will find itself in a strange situation of being a parliamentary minority with insufficient numbers to effect anything. That is the logical outcome of the system it engineered so the irony is not lost on me.

            None of this means it does not have the means to play a disruptive extra-constitutional role. I don’t see the end game of such an undertaking but I can imagine TPLF is packed with many seething members willing to do it just to vent. It is just your allusions to the fall and the cliff are rather too specific for my taste.

            Please I beg..no መስከረም ቅጭ.

            Amde

      • Selam Amde,

        Can you imagine the following coming fro H.A.:

        -“Even Mengistu stands better in guarding national interest of ethiopia than pm Abiy”. When we speak of MHM, we are talking about one of the worst dictators in the world, who committed genocide in ethiopia (by killing innocent ethiopians, especially tigrayans and eritreans).

        -“Things might go out of control for Ethiopia by the coming fall”. She, as the doomsayer of ethiopian politics, is becoming more specific by more or less putting a date for the ethiopian simentegnaw shi. God save ethiopia, the Cassandra has prophesied. Fortunately, it is not true and nobody is going to believe it.

        -“The only safe and prospering corner in Ethiopia will be Tigray.” It is said that whoever does not speak highly of his home, the roof will fall upon his/her head.

        -“Tigray was exposed to tremendous wealth and wisdom migration”. What we saw in 1991 when tplf landed in addis was ragtag guerrilla fighters, who turned into millionaires in a short period of time after reaching addis.

        The most juicy part is coming:

        -“As a minority, they seem to perfectly know that their option is either to be at the top or the bottom. The middle is never for minority groups.” Are we losing the reality, here. As much as tplf is concerned, the middle does not exist, when tigray happens to be one of the poorest regions of ethiopia. In politics too, it is either boom or bust. You win everything and you are at the top, or if you lose, you go back to the bushes for another guerrilla fighting. That is why the name tplf, always a liberation front, remained as it is. This is similar to a gambler’s mentality.

        -“The reason why Tigreans assumed a majority role while they are a minority is not because of resources or power control. ….Tigrean character of staying steadfast, just, prinçipled, right, loyal and real… “. We will soon be told that tplf did not come toting guns, but waving flowers in the air. Tplf’s agazi forces were not murdering innocent ethiopians, prisons were not filled by tplf, journalists and others were no forced to flee their country, etc.

        It seems that we all need some holy water (ፀበል) to take us out of the virtual world and its distorted reality, and bring us to the real world.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, Horizon.
          Ya, that poverty you mention could be made history if you do honest work and share, but it takes time. You could make it faster like tplf but you have to loot, cheat, lie, kill, manipulate, be corrupt, etc. And most of all you have to have 100 million people to give as guarantee for Chinese banks so that you can get billions and billions dollars. One more thing, you have to make sure the ambassadors you send to china must be tplf people. You do that then a country with 110 million people and less than 4 billion dollars as export can register double digit development.

          You see what Hayat is telling us that for Ethiopians to develop we need only tigrians who are members of tplf. If you dont do that then you are worse than Mengistu. Imagine you are led by people like Hayat for the last 27 years. Just imagine.

        • Hayat Adem

          Horizon,
          Personally, I always thought you are fair, balanced and logical. You should not be mad if I thought the same about the Tigray people.
          1) True, Mengistu was a butcher and a dictator. Thatvis why I said “save Mwngistu”. But I don’t think he was helped by foreign agents to come to power. If Gerd had been initiated during Mengistu, he would have made it a rallying point big time. Abiy in his 100+ days, and in his countless utterances of MEDEMER, how many times did he mention Gerd? Zero!!!
          There is one thing that amazes me. June 24 was quite an event. Hundereds of thousands came out to support Abiy. A bomb exploded. He immediately came out to implicate Tplf and the intelligence using the word “anti reform and professional operatives”. Now, he knew it was OLF and he is silent. Why is he dragging his feet? Why don’t his supporters demand the publicity of the results?
          Maybe, there are other powerful hands behind it. Maybe he thinks he can profit more by keeping it unannounced. The poor TPLF took all the bad images and bruises and moved on. Does that tell you somethingas to what their determination looks like? They are not after small games this time.
          FYI, I didn’t mind anyone one replacing TPLF or any PM coming from it. I didn’t mind Hailemariam although I have to admit he was a weak leader. I wouldn’t mind anyone including the opposition to come to power and replace Eprdf. I am not opposing the man in town because I supported Tplf to conrinue to dominate power. Frankly, I don’t lose sleep on the fate of Tplf.
          Just give them a due credit for the incredible change they brought and kick them out in whatever way you want. It is up to them to work even harder and cone back to convince you to get them back to power by warning your votes. Of course, it is different when it comes to the people of Tigray. They have never wronged other Ethiopians through out their history. They should not be treated any less.
          Ethiopian elites like yourself should be very careful about this matter. It is not fair and it is not helpful. But above all, there is something called the irreducible unit. You cannot harass the Tigryans endlessly. Something will become too much again. And you know what will follow. Learn from history for the sake keeping your country moving forward.
          Abiy is the wrong material at the right time for this great country. I would have loved Lemma a lot more than Abiy. I would have loved the late Alemayehu that I learned a lot about his greatness and his dubious death lately.
          2) The fall curse is something that bothers me; it is not necessarily unavoidable but you need to do something to fix the exxesses and come to your senses before it is too late. If i am sensing it wrong, that would be a great news.
          3) I am observing Tigray being more of itself very recently. They have been quiet when the rest of Ethiopia was stirred and disrupted by movements and color revolutions to be birthing a wrong child. ThebTplf were not resisting all the pushes and provocations. People here are misunderstanding the TPLF again. We were told they had a dominant power until Abiy came. They stood against Abiy’s election. They lost. They accepted the election results. People still thought they controlled the intelligence and the army establishment. Two generals resigned early on from INSA paving the way for the new PM. Then, Abiy kicked Samora and Getachew. Tplf accepted and moved on. Abiy kicked out all their men left and right. They moved on. One can only attribute this to three assumptions: they didn’t like it but accepted it becauae the PM was acting within his powers or didn’t like it but thought they could use it as an opportunity to reorganize themselves or they didn’t like it but were helpless to do anything about it. Well, it can’t be the last one because it wouldn’t make sense as it would mean they didn’t have anything at their disppsal to do anything including spoiling. That would mean not only they were not dominant but totally paralized. It is foolish to think that way as well. But if they were one of the first two, you need to pick one or both. If so it must tell you something how they are handling themselves.
          Tigray has been safe and peaceful comparatively. But it was not prosperous so far. Poverty stands at 27% as we speak which is worse than the country average. That has reasons. One is because wealth and wisdom were migrating.
          4) The wealth and wisdom migration thing is not hard to explain. Someone I know visited the region (Tigray) two years ago. One morning, that person was driving from Adigrat to Meqele. It was a weekday. He counted only 3 trucks all the way until destination place. That is 100KMs. Things were so frozen. Did you think why? The person told me, all the friends he knew as professionals and investors moved out of Tigray. Would you think investors migrate without their capitals? Do professionals move leaving their skills behind? No, you wouldn’t think so and remain sane. But now a days, the hostile environment created by the rest of Ethiopian elites like yourself against Tigriyans outside Tigray is making them think twice. Do you beleive a Tigryan investor would be comfortably expanding his or her existing investment or put a new one in Gondar or Awassa now? I would think, many would be rethinking if not regretting of their earlier decisions.
          5) The options are there. The Guraghes are a minority too. They excelled on the business front. And they sustained their status at the top. Though today left so behind, Eritreans were excelling on many fronts in the past while a minority. What is wrong if Tigreans are aiming for that kind of excellence? Would you, elites from the rest of Ethiopia, not accept Tigriyans at all if they don’t stay at the bottom? This is not looking good on you, Horizon. Look inwards for a random check of sanity.
          6) I was not talking about Tplf here. I was talking about the Tigray people. I am also very much aware how much exaggeration is put about the sins of Tplf. Some do it out of ignorance. Some like you do it with an intention of mischaracterisation and deception. And that is more dangerous. Agazian is one division of the army named after a dead tplf fighter. But it is a divsion that belongs to the national army and operates as one. Every time there is a clash between protestors and the law enforcements and a death happens, the ignorants attribute it to Agazian. The dishonest elites flag it when they feel they can cheat the herds. You became one of them today.
          The fact that the Tigryan people have done nothing wrong while they have always been wronged is true and it should not bother you whenever you hear it. It is a good thing for Ethiopia and you could pick and popularize it as a refined Ethiopian value.
          Bonus: The national flag you witnessed being worshipped in Bahirdar was introduced by King Yohannes. Also remember, he was also the only king he paid his neck protecting an Ethiopian land and religion outside Tigray. You don’t have anyotherv king who did that in the long long Ethiopian history.

          • Kaddis

            Dear Hayat,
            እስቲ እሺ በይኝና የክብር ዜግነት ላመቻችልሽ ፦) በጣም አሪፍ post ነው።
            True; the risk is high here. But compared to few weeks ago; I think it doesn’t look its getting worse.
            Very thoughtful indeed

          • Nitricc

            Hey Kaddis; “Very thoughtful indeed” You seem to be impressed by the half baked story. Hayat said ” People still thought they controlled the intelligence and the army establishment. Two generals resigned early on from INSA paving the way for the new PM” The truth is General T/Birhan was a head of INSA and he fired Dr, Abiy from that organization and when Dr Abiy become a prime mister, General T/Birhan resigned immediately and PMAA never fired General T/ Brihan. I can go down line by line and expose Hayat’s lies but I have no time. Hey Kaddis, I will respond to Redwan’s case tomorrow. Thanks for the info on Redwan.

          • Hayat Adem

            Kaddis,
            That would be an honor.

          • Selam H. A.,

            Unfortunately, your hate for pm Abiy and your blind love for tplf are clouding your judgement. It is unbelievable that you are even trying to whitewash the derg by calling it a nationalist, and by denying that it was a moscow lackey at first and then that of beijing, simply because it might help you tarnish PMAA’s image.

            You accuse your nemesis for failing to mention the gerd, when you know that it is a done deal, almost 70% complete, and the one who could have done the damage as a proxy for the egyptians, dia, has changed sides and he is singing now ‘one people, one love’. Do you know why you mention so often the gerd and the economic development? Because, you want to give the accolade to tplf by attributing everything that has happened in ethiopia solely to tplf, but not its crimes, as if there is no ethiopian money and effort in them, and as if ethiopians are not in debt to their neck.

            I am not aware pm Abiy implicated the tplf for the bombing, because this would have caused a serious situation in ethiopia, and about the olf on whom you want to dump the crime, nobody is yet sure, unless it is a sinister plot to undermine peace. Remember, your first target was the pfdj. Most of what you say is mostly a sinister speculations and you cannot bring facts to support your position. If tplf has a reason to suspect itself, that is its own problem, but nobody implicated it.

            You are asking the ethiopian people to look only at the economic development and forget all about the crimes tplf has committed. For any rational ethiopian, tplf is not the people of tigray and the people of tigray is not tplf. The people of tigray will always have the respect of all ethiopians. You are trying to drive a wedge between tigrayans and the rest, nevertheless the ordinary ethiopian is not as clueless as you might think. As you continue to deamen and demonize pm Abiy, from what i heard, bus transportation from mekelle to asmara has already started, which shows that you are behind the times. Tplf as a party still representing the people of tigray, and it should align itself for the sake of the people, and it should not put in danger everybody. The era of self-enrichment by ignoring everybody else is over.

            You are making a grave mistake when you try to terrorize ethiopians by using tigrayans. You are ready to sacrifice again the people for the sake of tplf hegemony, and be sure, it will backfire. This is not the time to call upon brave hearts, simply because tplf is far from power. This time no tigrayans are ready to sacrifice themselves for the sake of any power and money hungry group. They want to live in peace and equality with the rest, and unlike the elites, they know very well that power is not a permanent property of one single narrow group in a multiethnic nation. If you are privy to some sort of secrete, the best thing to do would have been to tell others, than trying to terrorize by spewing fake news. The truth is that ethiopians are not going to be terrorized.

            My support to any politician depends on what he does and achieves for the ordinary people as a whole, and not whether he is for or against any group interest. You have no explanation why you hate pm Abiy other than the fear you have that he does not serve tplf’s interest, he does not inspire you, because he is not a tplf puppet, and maybe you hate his face for one reason or other.

            Almost everybody is telling you that you are wrong, and yet as the last of the tplf mohicans you are fighting tooth and nail to keep it in power by mobilizing anything handy, even prophesy and lies. Remember the days when we cherished you, your intelligence, and everything else, until you showed us your true self.

            The ‘fall curse’ gives the sense of a prophecy, if i have understood. It is equivalent to saying that ethiopia is going to face the armageddon, because tplf is not ruling ethiopia. You are sure about it, and you advise ethiopians to repent and return under tplf hegemony in humility before it is too late, and tplf comes back as the warrior of the apocalypse.

            You should have known that ιnvestors and professionals move to where the markets and the jobs are, not because they want to develop some other region and not their own. Most of the time both capital and the market are found in the same area, for example, at the center as in ethiopia. This phenomenon (the pull factor of the center) is going to continue until every region in ethiopia is equally industrialized somehow, so that people remain in their own regions. People movement in ethiopia is no different from other countries.

            For the toxic environment tplf created for the people of tigay, who live in other regions, you should blame tplf first. Unfortunately, when the amharas were the victims, tplf was laughing secretly, as if there was no tomorrow. Ordinary ethiopians are wise people and they will find a solution for this too, and they will continue to live in harmony as they always did despite the tplf licensed lethal pill, which is ethnic federalism.

            Nobody is against prospering in an honest way. The problem is when politico-military power is used to acquire money-power as well, as tplf did, but not the gurages. Nobody is saying that tigrayans should stay at the bottom. What ethiopians are saying is that the tplf clique should stop using its politico-military power to loot the country. Tplf became obsessed with money and power and lost its rationality. No country can accept that forever, the thing tplf and its supporters failed to understand. There lies the difference.

            You should talk about tplf and not the people of tigray, because ethiopians have no problem with the people, but with its elites, the tplf, and don’t hide them behind the people as guerrilla fighters often do. They may have done the crimes by using the name of the people, but the people have not sinned, and everybody knows that.

            Conveniently you are forgetting that the army and the security were under tplf control with the help of its generals, which constituted the majority. Nobody else but tplf could kill 200 protesters in broad daylight during peacetime, and yet you scrape it by saying, ‘every time there is a clash protesters die’. It is so disingenuous of you. Of course, you are lying for the sake of tplf. It is your right.

            Finally, to make a point, you bring the ethiopian national flag, emperor yohannes, and his death. Why should this be different from what tewodros, menelik ii, and others did before them. They were emperors ruling the land, and each one of them had the obligation and the interest to defend the land in their own way. Please, do not forget that It was tplf who said that the ethiopian flag was a piece of rug, the same flag you told us was introduced by a tigrayan emperor.

            You may continue to present tplf as an angel, but you will convince nobody. As long as you love it so much, advise it to stop swimming against the tide, you too. One last thing, still i can’t understand the reason why you wanted the tplf-lead ethiopian government to invade eritrea and topple the dictator, when you were a diehard closet tplf supporter, and we had no idea?

          • Hayat Adem

            Wow Horizon,
            What is all that! Let me nake some of them clear to you and others.
            1) I told you, i don’t care a penny Tplf losing power. It was meant to be. It was the archtect of this system.
            2) That doesn’t mean you have to deny them the credit for what they did. If you hated Derg, they are the ones who removed Derg for you. If you like Abiy, he is the product of the system they created. If you are happy about the Gerd’s 70% completion, they have had more roles than Abiy.
            3) I think accusing Tplf leadership of enriching themselves at the expense of others more than others is something that comes up always when you speak about them. Can you support it with comparative factual data? It might be part of the most “repeated lies” intebded to destroy the image of the organization.
            4) You are cleverly lumping Tplf and the people when it becomes convinient to you and separate them when you want their support. And that has been the case for many years. And that has always offended many. If you want the trust of those people, soeak for them clearly when they are wronged like your own people; say something when their targeted; tell the Gondar and Woldiya holigans to stop when they kill their brothers, burn their property.
            4) I hate IA but I don’t hate Abiy. He has not been in power long enough to earn my love or hate. I just believe Abiy is the wrong guy and every indication makes me feel that way. He is there to stay and you will live him for yourself.
            5) fall curse… hmmm! this is beibg taken out of propertion… i don’t have a foretelling power.. i was just reminding you of the 1991, 1992 2005; 2015, 2016, 2017

        • Blink

          Dear Horizon
          Many people has been telling you guys the nick name hayat can’t be someone from Eritrea. Just collect all these years comments of her and put some perspective in to them. I believe she did not have the interest of Ethiopians nor does she care about Eritreans , what she cares is all in all TPLF old guards.

    • Sam

      Dear Hayat,

      Are you sure you are not Alula Solomon or one of his paranoid TOL variants? You don’t sound Eritrean at all! If you are indeed Eritrean and yet let your heart burn this much not for you but for your neighbor, there is nothing I would like more than having you as my neighbor. ተሓጏሚ ከሎስ ተሓዝ ልቢ…… ድዩ ዚበሃል? You have outdone even yourself when you compare Abiy with Mengistu.
      “…by the coming fall”? Why? Is there something that you are privy to? You seem quite specific in your prediction of doom and gloom.

      Take a deep breath, the sky is not falling. Btw, brother to brother, if you want to come out and expose your true identity, now is the time. “ለመስቀል ያልሆነ ልብስ ይበጣጠስ::” ነው ነገሩ::

    • Mez

      Dear Hayat A,

      You assume to know all the driving factors. And then, by “omition or comission” you build your case. Not necessarily factual.

      Thanks

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Mez,
        From what I laid as fact, which one did you find not factual? From what I put as inferenced opinion, which one did you find nonsense?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Hayat.

      Yes, you are right according to your interest. I dont know even why you bother to repeat tplf’s declaration on the peaceful revolution in Ethiopia and the eventualities that follow.

      But i will tell you why the president (i hope you understand why the peoples were happy) was so happy.

      1) The land he is leading shall not go to war with a population of 25 times greater than his own. That is a relief by itself.

      2) Tplf will no more arm the so called oppositions from Eritrea which plans to make Eritrea polarized in religions and create civil war equivalent or worse to Rwanda.

      3) Eritrea has been isolated, under siege, and boycotted by the international community thanks to tplf your party. That is history now. If this wont make him happy what makes him happy.

      4) The economy of Eritrea would boost both in port business, tourism, airline, import export, here the sky is the limit.

      5) People you bombed them come and welcome you in millions tells you only one thing. Isaias is happy it was not him. Ethiopians learn the hard way who is the culprit . They did not know when tplf brutally sent families to Eritrea. Then ethnic poison fermented by tplf cadres and distributed by their puppies and mass media has made hundred thousands have died in Gambela, oromo/amara, and then somali/oromo, afar/amara, etc. If you are a responsible leader to any counry then

      Isayas is so happy that Ethiopians understand how tplf made Ethiopians become the enemy of Eritrea and PIA.

      Only 5) makes any human being happy except a tplf member. And more would be the happiness if you are a responsible president.

      We worry now not when tplf says PM is not a good leader, we worry when tplf says he is a good leader.

    • David Samson

      Selam Hayat,

      It is good to being critical, however, it is a bit of stretch to compare- by any criterium- Menga with the BODMAS PM.

      All I recall about Menga’s 4 months were the sound of guns. “National Interest” is open to interpretations, and you have not spelt out what Menga did better than the PM is doing right in the 4 months which you find it troubling.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi David,
        Since you have brought it: he did not BODMAS but BODYMASS. Can you believe it? The other day, on spot with parliamentarians he said this: “if 300k houses are built so far and if Addis popn is 3 million, we are only providing for 1%.” What a guy! Notice, when he thinks 300k houses are to house only 300k people? And notice that he is not aware 300k is 10% of 3 million, not 1%. Bodymass!

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayat,

      So, in short, Article 39 Loading…

      Peace!

      • Abi

        Hi peace
        Are you saying Article 39 is unloading?

        • Peace!

          Abish,

          As our queen indicated, it is loading and you may have to wait till September, and more importantly, Tigray is the only location for full screen preview unless the good Dr changes the setting.

          Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Peace,
        Haha a good one. You don-t get it though.
        Article 39 is there as a potent guaratee for every member region state of the Republic.
        Tigray will be the last state to invoke it. If Ethiopia has to shrink to its smallest unit, it can only be Tigray which from there on, it will be irreducible.

        • Peace!

          Hi Hayat,

          I know we are not there yet but heading firmly to that direction:

          “The only safe and prospering corner in Ethiopia will be Tigray. Tigray is pulling all its intellecruals and resources and focusing for the first time on its own. They must have regretted the 27 for thinking adequate growth can be built at the center and then fairly shared amongst. Tigray was exposed to tremendous wealth and wisdom migration. Now, the recent crisis and out blown hate against them was a wake up call. As a minority, they seem to perfectly know that their option is either to be at the top or the bottom. The middle is never for minority groups.” ድሕሪ ሰለፋ እንታይ ተረፍ 🙂

          ***September is interestingly becoming ናይ ፓለቲካ ንግደት

          Rahwita predicted DIA will be ousted (ኣፍ ይስዓር I already put $100) and Hayat for major change in Ethiopia.

          Peace!

    • ALI-S

      Hey Super Hayat

      Just for picking on your brilliant memory of historical events, your claim of how TPLF ended up on top of Ethiopia is flawless. This of course if you equate TPLF (the organization) with the Tigrayan people.

      If you mean the organization (e.g. Meles Z and company) I heard people tell all kinds of stories about a king-maker who invented them, gave them a ride, baby sat them in Addis for a few years of infancy and crowned them. I was wondering if there is any such alternative truth in the impeccable memory of Her Majesty.

  • Blink

    Dear girma
    Any prove Eritreans are in Yemen fighting for UAE ? I am asking because last time I checked it was 2000 soldiers in Somalia and that was a pure lie and there was also in South Sudan which was a lie too. I mean lies can be repeated again and again but you know…,

  • Abraham H.

    Selam,
    When it comes to the need for sea ports, i don’t think it is either Asseb or Djibouti for Ethiopia. The country with its 105 million population/world’s most populous landlocked country/Africa’s second largest population/Eastern Africa’s largest economy, and even more growing economy needs as much access to the sea as it could. Also it will take years to refurbish the existing port in Asseb, eventually build new harbors, container terminals, etc, and expand the existing old road, as well building a railway connection to the Ethiopian grid.

  • dawit

    Fake News from G News

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei.

    What do we expect then?
    The PM has a lot work to make Djibouti feel secure.

  • Hope

    Hello All:

    “Exciting,excited” and interesting!
    China blocking the sanctions due to what?

    Coz the UAE is improving Aseb Port for Ethiopia.????

    The USA rejecting lifting the Sanctions due to what?

    Britain ?
    Why in the equation any way other than being the USA’s Puppet and for having NO own stand and policy?
    Sweden lining up with Somalia?
    Sweden who ?
    Why and for what reason?
    This is FUNNY !

    The little whxxxre Jabooty has to fight for its fading interest,that is understandable but Somalia rejecting it?

    Which Somalia and for what reason?
    What is up with the SELL OUT
    Formagio?

    But the SEMG confirmed that the motive behind the sanctions is no more a factor.
    So what the heck is Jabooty talking about them?
    It’s nonexistent PoW?

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Hope,

      That sanction is totally irrelevant at this point. Besides, it would have looked funny if it was lifted because Ethiopia asked for it anyway. Eritrea only needs to play their game for few more months and it will be lifted eventually.

      So, don’t dwell on it until then. It is, as the general would say “toothless sanction” from this day forward.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Fanti.
        No need to rush. If the sanction there for years what if waiting for some more months. But Djibouti and Eritrea shouldn’t be in compete to monopolize the port service rather integrate with mutual understanding, defending, empowering one another. A rich Djibouti or Eritrea is a good thing than the poorer version. We saw the disaster made by the poor version. Eritrea and Dibouti if they play their card wisely they can make their countries a good place ot live for their citizens. . This woyane way of making our policy by stabbing one neighbor with help of the other is too backward.

        Djibouti must forget the tplf regime. It is done.

        New days new possibilities, free from the feudal thinking.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam mitiku Melesse,

          True, Djibouti would benefit from cooperation more than competition. The projected growth of Ethiopia and the horn will produce more than enough business for both. Even with the addition of Barbara port and a small scale Port Sudan, it still is no cause for worry.

          Let’s not forget that when Ethiopia grows, so will Eritrea and the neighbors. Which will cause farther need for additional ports. What I mean is that as Eritrea grows, for example, it will have more and more import export activity of its own goods which will make the ports busier and so on.

          To our Djiboutian friends: As long as we have peace, there will be enough for everyone, so please behave civil!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Fanti,

            First I like to thank AT and Gedeb news. It wasn’t clear to me the motivation of UAE involvement in the Red sea and why it wanted peace between Eritrea and Ethiopia. It’s port services are threatened by China building Gowdar port and it needs another port to develop to keep the competition. If this is really it’s motivation, it will pour lots and lots of money towards Assab and Eritrea and the US will probably back them up as well. Now I know why they were talking about rail roads, connecting Eritrea and Ethiopia etc.

            I think from Djibouti point of view, I don’t think Eritrea making peace is the problem. But they have unresolved conflict where the Eritrean government send it’s troops to occupy some land they claim to be theirs. Who is right or wrong is beside the point, but Eritrean government action against Djibouti was one of the reason the sanctions put in place.

            The SC was satisfied when Qatar stepped in and put it’s peace keeping force and took the role of a mediator but that process is stalled, now because Eritrea sided with UAE and SA when they cut diplomatic ties with Qatar.

            Berhe

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Berhe Y,

            Good point! I should have mentioned (I was thinking it) that Djibouti’s intent may or may not be competition. As you said, they have unresolved issues of their own with Eritrea.

          • girma

            UAE involvement is to free up eriterian soldiers by the border so they can deploy to Yemen, this is the whole reason. both eriteria and Ethiopia are getting paid for this. it looks like Ethiopia negotiated further benefits….

          • Berhe Y

            Hi girma,

            That’s possible but it will be very hard to justify.

            Berhe

          • Mez

            Dear Girma,

            UAE involvement in Eritrea looks to me a grand geo-economic undertaking by design.

            1) All the horn of Africa sea ports, if you will from Port Sudan to the new port Lamu (in Kenya) they have one fundamental assumption: to serve the immediate rear (Ethiopian ) market in the size of 105mio people, and other nations.
            2) if you followed the news from Dubai like 10 days ago the UAE port management giant has the intention of creating a warehouse facility (for Ruanda, South Sudan, burundi… ) somewhere in Ethiopia. 3) This idea, seen from the massive scale of economics (both Ethiopian market and beyond), that together with the agricultural potential in Sudan, Ethiopia, and Uganda are attractive enough for UAE and KSA to help create peace and harmony in the horn of Africa.
            4) new Eritrean Army in the Yemeni civil war? I see no traction in it; because nobody can win a civil war of this dimention–just because Eritrean army is added to it.

            Thanks

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi MEZ,
            And you think the UAE is not able to start in Eritrea what it started in Yemen?

          • Mez

            Dear Saleh J,

            There is no plausible logical reason for UAE to replicate the Yemeni conflict across the red sea to us.

            The war situation in Yemen was primarily initiated by KSA; while UAE was or is the staunch supporter of KSA in its war effort.

            If you see the overall advance of this war in the past three years–it is a 50 % success at most.

            I strongly believe, the role of UAE in Yemeni civil war is secondary, and they have no leverage on KSA to decisively curb this war.

            If some how Eritrean army will openly participate in Yemeni war, it is unlikely that the war outcome would strategically change; in this case however, Eritrea woold endanger it’s internal security.

            Thanks

          • Amde

            Selam Mez,

            I like your reasoning. Also – if true – for once, we have external powers whose long term interests align are best served with a peaceful and economically thriving horn area. It is exciting really.

            But – playing devil’s advocate here – how much money is there to be made with the logistics business that would induce a state level actor to engineer geostrategic alignments? I am sure it is serious coin, but how big is it compared to the petro wealth UAE has been enjoying? I am really asking about the long term sustainability of this project.

            Amde

          • Mez

            Good day Amde,

            You brought interesting question.

            I mentioned above agriculture, and commerce (primarily logistics).

            If you look for minerals it is more than attractive–it is shocking. South Sudan oil field ( already invested by China over 30bln usd. Uganda is in procurement stage to build oil refinary, 3 to 5bln usd. Further down the dr Congo a) the world biggest known mineral deposit, b) the African biggest freshwater availability. Just as an example Congo can supply the freshwater water need of the whole africa–that in a sustainable way. The limit for now is logistics and trade barrier.

            Yes ato Amde, the future economic prospect is very encouraging. the relative absence of peace, law& order, accountability, transparency are forcing economic forces to move in a snail speed.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            In the current move and deals of the two governments, no one has an objection for “peace” and “economic integration”. Watch out the “political integration” that calls for “one people and one country” and their “medemer formula” and act accordingly.

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            1) from life normalization perspective, the last one month brought a political good will to co-exist and live in peace unforeseen since the end of the federation time.

            2) it is really too early to academically contemplate and internalize what the “concept of medemer” would mean for the two nations. Even for Ethiopia, this concept is still too general.

            3) oftentimes the politics of the horn is driven by ethnicity than by the fundamental political orientation and respect of human right and dignity.

            4) it is too early to say any thing–except to see, listen, and wonder what will may come next.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            So according your understanding, the relationship that is going at a fast pace does make you to even have a second thought of suspicion of all sorts, then it is well and good for you.

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            According to my understanding I am able to say nothing.

            I lost my orientation.

            Thanks

          • Ismail AA

            Selam dear Mez,

            “medemer” has so far neither academic nor conceptual content beyond being an attractive public relations rallying slogan under current precarious social and political conditions of the country. It has no meaning yet beyond being synonym to the call for “unity”; and don’t think its proponent (Dr. Abiy) has quantifiable conceptual framework for it yet. I do not know what the future will produce. If the call holds, in future some savvy academic could put some spin on it and find way to propose it as quasi political policy guide. We have read and heard many of that kind happen else where.

          • Mez

            Hi Ismaill AA,
            The whole thing we observe now (regarding the Eritrean-ethiopian relation) is a sort of “political earth quack”–like the one happened in Fukushima, Japan.

            Hard to say something.

            Thanks

          • Berhe Y

            Dear AH,

            I think the word “medemer” used by PM (until recently was probably used only in three math) and giving it much political weight to the point of erasing a UN reconginzed country is just beyond belief.

            There is no hidden message except it means “if we are work together we will grow together” not only with Eritrea but the whole region. This is just common sense, please refer to PMMZ interview in Tigrinya with Assenna I think where he said the same thing. We grew together and we fall together.

            If this catchy word is given so much weight, it shows that we as as opposition are not well positioned to understand what really is going.

            Integration or breaking of country is a huge undertaking and doesn’t happen at the whim of a dictator. No body should know this better than us Eritreans who went through so much.

            Personally this recent events, the long term consequence is actually the opposite, I.e. current and future Ethiopian leaders and Ethiopian people have fully accepted the separation of Eritrea the country fully, with close relationship as a neighbour. In other words, ERITREAN becomes another Djibouti, as a neighbour.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            If that is your understanding as to what is going and will continue going, and that the despot will not tie us Ethiopia with federation or Confederation without consulting the Eritrean people at large, then ይግበረልና ጥራይ እየ ዝብለካ::

            But since when did Issayas consulted the Eritrean people or his colleagues? A man who only think the only thinker and despise his colleagues around him throughout his political career, now to think he will not drive the Eritrean politics by himself is unthinkable to me.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear AH,

            The president does what he wants but he can’t do that in his own. Ethiopians also know that too.

            As long as he is there, what I see he will do is, rule Eritrea like king, similar like most in the Middle East.

            And Ethiopian, that would suit them fine, as long as they get what they want. All out problems, they will leave it for us to figure out how to solve it.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            አይትብከ እንድዩ ዘብክየኒ ይብሉ አቦታትና:: The kings are the sole deciders to the fate of their “nations” and their “subjects”, and they have always “enablers” and “opportunists” to enforce their decisions. Don’t you think so?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear AH,

            Yes they have enablers but there is a limit. They are limited inside the country.

            Can you think of any country since the end of Cold War that was member of the UN and got erased?

            Berhe

          • Selam Fanti G.

            In my opinion, if there is somebody who should worry about ethio-eritrean rapprochement, it is little djibouti, due to the long term effect it may have on her economy and security.

            Supposing that the future of ethiopia and eritrea is that of peace, solidarity and full cooperation, and they decide to make assab a modern world class sea port connected by railway. The money is easily available from uae (and other rich gulf states). UAE has reason to score a point against djibouti. Their relation is not at its best lately.

            Djibouti wants to become a gateway to africa for the chinese new silk road that will extend as far as west africa, and north and south, the seaport has been expanded with a lot of money, and the chinese free trade zone is almost ready, and surely djibouti does not want a competition, that if nothing else, could take away all the export-import trade of ethiopia.