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The Difference Between Propaganda and Public Relations

When I started to work after leaving Eritrea, I landed at a sales and marketing job. My understanding of sales was clear, but I didn’t understand what marketing meant.

My boss at the time, an American veteran of marketing, taught me that a sale is the about taking the product or service to a consumer, while marketing is bringing the customer to the product or service. That was lesson 1.

Gradually, after taking some courses and extensive training, I became a supervisor, and climbed the career ladder fast. That is when I began to deal with advertising agencies, creative designers, commercial directors, and the like.

Years later I had to apply for a certain service in Addis Ababa and the clerk filled a form with my details. He asked me of my profession and I told him I was in marketing; I didn’t know its Amharic equivalent, neither did he. But he entered “የገበያ ሽይጭ” marketplace sales. That became a joke when I told my friends that I am a marketplace salesman.

In one of our initial sessions, the trainer told us that people have pockets, and inside it they have money (plastic money was just a concept then). And the job of the marketing person is to make them spend the money on whatever you are selling. If you don’t, someone else will take the money. That was lesson #2.

The more I learned the more skeptical I became about the whole concept of marketing, particularly lesson #2, regarding pockets and pickpockets. The idea about the role of marketer disturbed me because it seemed to be targeting money inside people’s pockets. What if the person with the money needs to buy medicine, get food for his family or pay his rent? The trainer had an answer for me: If you think that way your competitor will take the money and you will curse your judgment—don’t think like a charity worker; marketers should not think that way!

Since that day, throughout my marketing career, my consciousness was hurting. But slowly I switched to distribution, product development, market research, and merchandizing. That helped me a little with my conscience until they added advertising to my portfolio, and I started to deal with advertising agencies, designers, creative directors and commercial producers. I enjoyed the day to day work, but deep inside I became guilty conscious—I felt I was snatching money from people’s pockets. So, whenever they see a car advertisement with a long-legged girl standing beside it, the testosterone of consumers kicks in, and they act as if they will get the girl with the car. Someone drinks a soda and goes ahhhhh, and you believe it is a delightful drink that you must have. And you spend on it. Deep inside, many people know they are being manipulated but they will never admit it, neither will the manipulators who will never admit advertising is a sort of propaganda.

Propaganda and public relations

Some years ago, a leader was explaining the activities of the opposition to the leaders of an American organization. He told them, we have this and that departments and we also have an information and propaganda activities. Their eyes popped in surprise. Years ago, American communications experts decided that the word “propaganda” had very negative connotation and replaced it with “public relations.” alaaqat aamma, in Arabic, and hzbawi rekhekebat, in Tigrinya. But there is no difference between propaganda, public relations, and advertisement–the means of communication may change, but the purpose is the same: the art and science of changing the belief and actions of people by giving them massive doses of information, misinformation and disinformation. But some stubborn person might say, big Deal, I am smart, I can tell the difference. Don’t underestimate my intelligence!

Are we intelligent enough to identify propaganda?

Researchers found out that infants, until about the age of 6 cannot tell the difference between advertisement and news/stories. This is why on American television stations, they have the famous “we will be right back” message: it is to help children understand that the commercial for sugar-saturated cereals is not part of the Barney the Dinosaur story, or Tom and Jerry, or Pink Panther they are watching. Communicators spend a lot of time studying our brains and how they process information, what they remember and what shapes their opinions. It’s important that that 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, there are trying to get you to love what they love and to hate what they hate.

How this manifest in Eritrea?

Let’s focus now just on PFDJ. The PFDJ stronghold on Eritrea is based on four-legged seat of power.

Leg 1: Self Reliance Claim

This is the so-called “self-reliance.” With this one they used to dominate the Eritrean field (the ELF was dependent on others and the EPLF was not.) Even if this is demonstrably false, then and now,  people continue to believe it because it was perpetually repeated: ንጸላኢ ብዕጥቁን ብብረቱን; ን ህዝባዊ ግንባር ዝሓገዘ ሃገር ወይ ሓይሊ ኣይነበረን::

So now, even though Eritrea is one of the most heavily-indebted countries, that relies on at least 5 UN agencies to provide it basic services, a country that doesn’t have an airline and its president relies on the charity (earlier Qatar and lately of the UAE) to travel,  but still talks about self-reliance.

Leg 2: Against all Odds Boasting

This was a gift from Dan Connell. It is the phrase of “against all odds.” This says, never do a cost-benefit assessment of anything, don’t ever say እዚኣስ ኣይተዋጽኣናን እያ or as Haile Derue said shortly before his arrest ሒሳብና ንግበር, let’s calculate first. If you say so, it means you are being a defeatist. Be a gambler, always. Because the higher the odds, the sweeter the victory will be. Therefore, nobody ever could dare tell Isaias it was wrong to start a war in Ethiopia, to get involved in Somalia, to taunt the US and get Eritrea sanctioned. Wait for the against all odds victory and make it sweetest by increasing the odds.

Leg 3: No Corruption Claim

We are against corruption. We are clean. We get paid little; we have no material things. Again, this is very untrue because the highest form of corruption is power abuse and it has abused its power egregiously. Is there any more power abuse than disappearance of citizens? Is there any more power abuse than to shut down all the institutions that can check and balance your power: independent media, independent judiciary, independent churches/mosques, separate legislature that derives its power not from the charity of Isaias but a franchised people electing it? As for material corruption: who lives in all the villas in Asmara? Who is the only Eritrea that can travel, legally, out of the country? Who, even now, can drive cars when the rest of the country is walking, using bicycles and karosa? Go check a report from “Transparency International” and you will see how thoroughly corrupt the regime is, based on the real definition of corruption, and not the “graft” they talk about.

Leg 4:  We believe in Equality and Social Justice

This is the wobbliest of the four legs. The claim that in Eritrea, everybody is equal and that the government enjoys the support of a cross section of Eritrea and its membership and leadership is made up of a cross-section of Eritrea. This is demonstrably false as, among others, Ahmed Raji has shown. Recently, Samuel Emaha in an interview said that the College he used to teach at (faculty and students) were overwhelmingly from one ethnic group. In fact, since its foundation, the PFDJ has never (ever!) been diverse. But because this is its most glaring weakness, it has made its discussion a taboo.

So, every day, for 29 years, the PFDJ government has engaged in massive propaganda on these four legs of the table. It has indoctrinated (they call it education, political awareness, etc.) millions of Eritreans in its schools, in its military bases, in its cadre schools, in its mass organizations. These high doses of propaganda have seeped deep into the veins of many. Even some of those who kicked its addiction by escaping it to other countries, have returned to it. Because they think their imprisonment and torture was all for the sake of self-reliance, against all odds, fighting corruption and promoting social justice!

Finally, the PFDJ has upgraded its propaganda activities and is subjecting Eritreans to a barrage of propaganda in a very sophisticated manner. Awate.com has warned against this because we saw it coming (UAE-Saudi-and-PFDJ-trolls- March 26, 2018)

Also, the PFDJ has assembled a considerable number of trolls and propagandists in all social media outlets. To the propagandists I say, please do not make the struggle hard for Eritreans. Don’t tell them they are okay when they are not. Don’t tell them their country is in good hands when it is not. Have mercy on your people. But also, don’t forget, your lies will come to haunt you. You will be shamed when the Eritrean people will finally be free. There is no doubt they will, and injustices will be swept away from the face of Eritrea, together with the enablers of injustice.

NB: This is the transcript of Negarit 106–a friend collaborated in developing the core concept and content.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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  • Brhan

    Good news Awate Forumers
    JOSEPH R BIDEN JR ELECETED 46TH PRESEIDENT OF THE US!!

    • David Samson

      Selam Brhan,
      It might be good news for some, but for others it might be the reverse. There are many Eritreans and Ethiopians who voted for Trump.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Friends.

        None of them is good..Trump is ox and stupid. The democrat are also 4D level and are useless.. Reilly, both sides are not fit to govern this great nation..

        Hope for the best and think about it..

        KS,,

        • Berhe Y

          Hi KS,

          I think it shows that when the rule of law is supreme, all nations are able to overcome challenges.

          Half of the country probably is sad with this election but they will accept the loss and move on.

          If for example, the rule of law was supreme, then all problems in our countries and region would have been overcome peacefully rather than just sing force.

          Berhe

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Berhe Y,

            Just take it as a journey. In today’s world it is matrix is collapsing…This really is a momentous time in humanity’s experience of falling into deep densities of 3D duality/polarity to Ascend again into unity consciousness ..As an advanced nation US is supposed to reach the 5D level which is earthly heaven..
            I am watching it as simple and easy to let you guys engaged….

            This phase feels like the disclosure and revelation that needs to happen in order to wake up more souls into awareness of the enslavement and control systems that have been in place for so long…This revelation seems to be possible because of the 3D Matrix collapse and detox that is going on right now in this previously unprecedented way. With most of the world shut down from the usual 3D routines of work-eat-sleep repeat, there is more time for learning, for seeking, for feeling/processing (the stages of grief) and for rebelling. There is more time for awakening! I is possible to see it and talk about it on 21 December..which the end ot 3D world…We need more people to this level of consciousness..

            But still during this revelation and rebellion phase, many souls will go against each other, take sides, create enemies to fight and battle against, be one of the ‘good guys’ or one of the ‘bad guys’. If their consciousness is still anchored to this duality, then they need to do this…moving into the polarity in order to emerge out the other side of it in more of a neutral, compassionate, and non-charged place. On a higher soul level, there aren’t any real bad guys or evil, as ALL of it is of the Divine and returns to the Divine..And yes those world celebrities are the 4D stage but they couldn’t manage to jump in 5D world as they are after fame and money…

            Do you understand me Berhino,,just read all my comments..you will be engaged in this wide field of fine word..”None of them is good..Trump is ox and stupid. The democrat are also 4D level and are useless.. Reilly, both sides are not fit to govern this great nation..” This is my sentence above that makes you..Move to understand…

            And seemingly it that makes everybody start to ask for this information.. But I am suppose to be none judgmental really..

            KS,,

            ..

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Translation please!
            የቐንየለይ

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            What is that translation? your are supposed to understand it as I have explained to you long back..now just listen the link bellow..

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iXzT0EdkP4&ab_channel=FetaDaily

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            ድንገት ለማለት የፈለግሁት ካልገባህ አልገባኝም ነው ያልኩህ:: አሁን ገባህ?
            በሚገባኝ ቋንቋ አስረዳኝ::

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi Abo,

            Just wait some days..I found someone that can speak this spiritual journey,,Yes I am not perfect to explain,,Just some days..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            While waiting for your spiritual advisor, listen to this song by Sade.
            It is First Lady’s favorite. It will calm you down. https://youtu.be/s7zwEjYHH0I

          • Kokhob Selam

            Yes Abo,

            Nice,,,

            He is too busy..May be he will visit us by next Sunday…don’t expect him today.

            for now go Jebena page and listen the most timely music of our famous..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Here is the original song ቅድመ ወያኔ ምርጥ ዘፈን https://youtu.be/bflNF2Ii6YU

        • David Samson

          Selam KS,
          I agree!

          Both parties are the same when it comes to the USA’s foreign policy.
          I do not live in the USA and do not have any interest in who governs USA, except the long-arm of USA’s foreign policy. I still hold the same position: the world will be in turmoil.
          Having said that, the people have spoken and Trump should respect the wish of the people and leave the office.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Brhan,

      Indeed it is a big relief to remove this narcissistic and racist guy from the White House. This transgressor will be ejected from the White House on Jan 20, 2021, a new beginning to heal the nation and to bring normalcy to the lives of American people. Those who support him in this forum, take it easy the defeat, your lives will get better under the new administration.

      Regard

    • Simon Kaleab
  • Amanuel Hidrat

    G/morning Awate Nation,

    Below is a link: The Crown Prince Council of Ethiopia is calling for a peaceful negotiation. We are aware that we have forumers who are nostalgic of the former Royal kingdom of Ethiopia and who clapping for the of ethnic cleansing in Ethiopia. One hopes these war clouts change their mind and heed the calls of the remenant Royal families to stop this ethnic cleansing that start against the Tigray by the Federal government and the ethnic cleaning against the Amharic ethnic in the old Wollega region by the Oromo movement.

    https://sl.sbs.com.au/public/image/file/8e307e4f-96f0-4cfd-9f41-70a0697bf44c/crop/16x9_large

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Amanuel
      “The Crown Prince Council “?
      ኧረ በፀሐዩ ንጉሥ!

      • Haile S.

        Selam Abi,

        Crown Prince Council ምን በደለ. It looks like you are reacting without reading. The CPC said

        ….. The Prime Minister was led to the necessity of declaring war with the proclaimed leaders of the Tigray region in what seems to be a point of no return for Ethiopia, a country which has been suffering for more than 40 years to show some economic growth…..

        • Hashela

          Selam Haile

          Thanks for digging deeper. The selective and out of the context citing did not make sense to me.

          Unrelated to the above, below is a ሃጠው-ቀጠው by the known Norwegian TPLFites cited in Star Tribune

          “Encircled, the TPLF can’t afford a drawn-out conflict and might fight its way to the capital, Addis Ababa, or toward the Red Sea for an outlet, Tronvoll said.”

          • Haile S.

            Selam Hashela,

            The sofa sitting conflict specialists like to watch the blood of others getting spilled. They have been feeding the fire with gas and firewood for the last several decades so that they write their articles and books condemning one and praising the other and turning 180 degree to reverse the praise and condemnation so that their pockets continue to fill and their ego satisfied. Please read the Lords of Poverty by Graham Hancock.

        • Abi

          መምህር
          I didn’t open the link. I was confused knowing that the person who brought the news is fishing for everything that absolve the thugs . Besides, he has shown his weaknesses in his comprehension skills.
          Look what he did to himself . A huge Unforced error. I hate seeing him shooting his own foot.

          Ethiopian Airlines received two brand new Airbuses. What is weird is the CEO ( አይተ ተወልደ) was not available to receive them.
          The rumor is he was taken by the police.

        • Selam Haile S.,
          The PM seems to have said that tplf officials cannot escape through the easy way of mediation and reconciliation. They will face the court of law for the crimes and betrayal they have committed.
          Tplf officers who were serving in the federal forces and cooperated with tplf from within to enable it attack the military bases, have been apprehended and transferred to Bahir-Dar with helicopters.
          Tplf officials will be detained soon or they will turn over themselves to the federal army. From what I could understand, the ethiopian parliament is going to appoint a transitional government that will administer tigray and take it to the elections. It looks like that tplf is on the verge of its demise.

          • Hashela

            Selam Horizon

            The treacherous acts of some Tigrayan officials within armed federal institutions is likely making harder for Tigrayans that are perhaps loyal to the central government.

          • Selam Hashela,
            News coming out of tigray say that tplf has begun shooting from behind at the liyu haile and militias that are as young as 15 yrs old, who are trying to escape and surrender to the federal army. It is said that tplf is committing atrocities against its own people.
            Tplf forces can’t feed themselves and they are looting towns and villages, and residents are preparing themselves to move out to save themselves and their families from hunger and tplf harassment. It is also said that tplf has told parents that they would be shot if they hide their children. It is unbelievable to what extent tplf goons would go to save their skin.

          • Hashela

            Hi Horizon

            Currently, PM Abyi is not to envy. How do successfully remove a highly malignant and metastasized cancer without damaging the surrounding tissues and vital organs?

          • Hashela

            Hi Horizon

            Multiple sources from inside Tigrai report that the application of elderly women for an admission in the local monasteries is skyrocketing. Strangely, theses women are unusually well fed and have a pronounced masculine stature.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            ወንዱ ሁሉ ቀሚስ ለብሷል ነው የምትለኝ?

            እዋይ ጠፊና !

          • Haile S.

            Selam Horizon,

            The law should be supreme. It is the absence of law and its practice in Eritrea that is make us shout day and night against the regime in Eritrea here.

            I hope Abiy will adhere to the law. I hope he will not do like the so called “Visionary leader” did in 2006/7 did, humiliating the political prisoners (see link to Messay Kebede’s article below). It was like in the 19th century ዘመነ መሳፍንት ኣቢሲንያ submitting yourself carrying a stone on your head and asking pardon.

            https://sudantribune.com/spip.php?article23173

          • Selam Haile S.,
            A criminal who is given the chance of mediation and reconciliation will grab the chance, because it will help him land on soft ground. Therefore, tplf should be weakened first and the government should negotiate from the point of strength and not that of weakness. Nothing will change otherwise. The criminals will remain criminals and the victims victims.
            Mediation will again be to tplf’s advantage as it was then when mz put the opposition in prison after the elections. Mz won in every crime he committed. History shouldn’t be repeated. After mediation tplf will again be the winner, and it will be business as usual for the criminal gang.
            Moreover, it will give tplf legitimacy and it will ask for more, and its deceitful nature is not going to change whatsoever.
            If Abiy releases his grip, there is no guarantee that they wouldn’t do worse things to him and to the country. They are an unrelenting and unrepentant group of people who have inflated ego and insatiable love for power and money.
            They should be removed as per Hashela’s prescription. They are the curse of Ethiopia.
            I hope that tigrayans will soon dump tplf and look for a genuine tigrayan political party that stands for their interest and not for its own selfish interest as tplf did for three decades at their expense. This is their chance of a lifetime to get rid of tplf and free themselves.

    • Brhan

      Hello Prof. A. Hidrat,
      I don’t think those who are nostalgic to the kingdom will listen to the prince’s call. With their war masks in their hands, they are trying to understand Wedi Tukhul’s “Arha Weyany” song.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Brhan,

        You are absolutely right, Brhan. With “their masks in their hand” they will continue their Tuta Tuta, the usual song we were hearing during our armed struggle.

        Regard

    • Peace!

      Hi Emma,

      In his campaign for presidential election, president Trump openly told African Americans “what do you have to lose” If they choose not to vote for democrats. Sadly it is the same scenario for us too when it comes to the fate of TPLF. What do you lose as an opposition figure or even as ordinary Eritrean if you can divert your time and energy to Eritrean cause than defending the ውስብስብ Junta day in day out and trying hard to manufacture consent.

      የውስብስብ Junta has already lost given the fact that the conflict has now reached at their own door step, and no connection with the army they built over thirty years that carefully designed to keep them safe and give them a potential to destabilize the rest of the country. That’s history now. There is no way out but to surrender for the sake of the innocent people. ንስኻ ድማ ቁሩብ ተዕርፍ:)

      Peace!

      • Abi

        Peace
        This is just for you. One of my favorites. https://youtu.be/C4jERN0PdDw

        • Peace!

          Hi Abish

          Beautiful, thank you!

          • Hashela

            Abi and Peace

            I don’t to listen often to music and I feel some are just too noisy,
            This one was really good.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I never, never, never … listen to noisy music. Never.
            Noisy songs should be banned.

          • Hashela

            Abi
            We know you are hopelessly trapped in the world of sarcasm. I believe, however, you know what kind of noisy music I had in mind

          • Abi

            Hashela
            For the first time I missed your intention. I’m usually quick to see sarcasm. This time I failed miserably!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Peace,

        I wish you were and are the same vocal against PFDJ regime as you are against TPLF. Unfortunately, the record shows otherwise. In my book the prime enemy to my people is Issayas and the the PFDJ party and for you the TPLF – a clear distinction between me and you. This is Just to make it clear that we have different enemy. There nothing we can debate on this un reconcilable positions. That is why I try to avoid engaging with you. It won’t help us, because last time, you make personal. From my side I don’t take it personal. You believe on what you believe and I believe in what I believe. Unfortunately, we have different values. So let us stay away from engagements, because at time you are aggressive.

        • Peace!

          Hi Emma,

          It is all the same PFDJ tortured my family members and destroyed my country, and TPLF looted and deported my parents. I oppose both of them in a way I think is productive. Trust me I have no intention to engage you either just take my comments as a simple response to your nonstop sanitizing TPLF links that’s turning this great forum into tabloid. መልሲ ካብ ምሃብ ድሕር ኣይንብልን ኢና ካባኻ እውን መልሲ ኣይንጽበይን ኢና::

          Peace!

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Pro.Aman,

          I am the first to say what he (Peace) is saying it. But as you know very well I am the first victim of our all participants when comes to TPLF and EPLF crime again…It was the 2nd time that my parents deported again only one sister and one brother are remaining in that sister nation Ethiopia..During PM Meles (EPRDF) I support him as you know very well with some objection. But at his death, I said openly that he was visionary and very advanced politician deeply affected. It was recorded in Wegahata Eritrean site of those days..Now, I am not happy to see the war between those brotherly people I am defending the truth and truth only..

          What is the advantage watching death of poor farmer suffering this criminal war? We all know the result of war between people..what will be the result…Hope for the best…

          KS,,

  • Brhan

    Some news channels are not totally distracted by US elections;

    Is Ethiopia heading for a civil war?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2020/11/6/is-ethiopia-heading-for-civil-war/

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Hi Birhan,
      Unfortunately, they are already in a civil war.
      Ethiopia will soon be former Yugoslavia.
      On the positive note, after hgdf disappears, they won’t bother us ever again.
      The question now is, who will keep the name Ethiopia.
      The rumor of the days is that the Awate Abi has already applied for NewEthiopia.com domain 🙂

      • Brhan

        Hi MM
        Yes and this is because of the absence of an idepdent media
        I agree with Martin Plaut who said indepdent media have to be present there.

      • Abi

        MM
        You are unusually slow today. The concept of “Ethiopia will disintegrate without Tplf at the helm “ has been said in this forum by several Tplf wannabes and activists who keep worshipping their visionary tormentors.
        Try another catchy phrase. Telling us your wishes in the name of prediction is also an outdated trick. Try again.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Abi,
          I have seen my family’s sorrow after losing 50% of their kids [for independence + Badme war]. It is extremely painful.
          You have kids and so do I. Imagine losing 50% of what you have [God forbid]. I don’t even wish to my enemies to be in that situation.
          Now that we see colonel Abyi + DIA’s plan to do worse disaster than we have ever seen before, it is immoral not to condemn them at any level.
          I can see the end result and that won’t be any good for anyone involved.
          Oh, for my slowness, blame eigenvector matrix.

          • Abi

            MM
            “እቴ በምን ቋንቋ በምን ቃል ላስረዳሽ” አለ መልካሙ ተበጀ ግራ ግብት ቢለው::

            በምን ቃል ላስረዳህ የወያኔን ጥፋት
            ምን ቋንቋ ይግለፀው የወያኔን ክህደት
            ተመልሶ ነካሽ ያጎረሰውን እጅ ያሳደገውን ጡት::

          • Brhan

            Our poet MM
            Let me share this poem that I translated from Arabic to English. It was written by the Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish, ( 1941-2008)

            The war will end
            The leaders will shake hands
            The old woman will wait for her martyred son
            And that young woman will wait for her beloved husband
            And those children will wait for their brave dad
            I do not know who sold the nation
            But I saw who paid the price

            ستنتهي الحرب)
            ويتصافح القادة
            وتبقى تلك العجوز تنتظر ولدها الشهيد
            وتلك الفتاة تنتظر زوجها الحبيب
            وأولئك الأطفال ينتظرون والدهم البطل
            لا أعلم من باع الوطن
            (ولكنّني رأيت من دفع الثمن

        • Selam Abi,
          The Amhara state is fighting tplf by standing on the side of the federal army, the Somali state has condemned vehemently the treasonous tplf, Afar has blocked the way to tigray, ofc and even olf and onlf have condemned tplf. Where are those forces who want to disintegrate Ethiopia except tplf and shenee, who are feeling the strong arm of the ethiopian people and its government?
          Tplf’s Trojan horses jawar and bekele g. are following events from behind bars. Despite tplf lies the military is united. What i see is a strong Ethiopia and not a disintegrating Ethiopia coming out of this crisis.
          The demise of tplf will be the end of anomaly and uncertainty in the region, and we will see calm returning and all countries engaging themselves in development. Tigray will finally find its real self after fifty years under the evil tplf

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Horizon,
            The ultimate loser will be the Amhara kilil, the misery of Ethiopia.
            You reside in the western country and the peasants of Gondor/gojam will pay the price.
            The sun is shining Egypt these days btw. Can you blame the sun?

          • MM,
            Your opinions are not the facts on the ground. The only losers this time are tplf and its supporters. Amhara will get back the land taken away by tplf, eritrea will be saved from tplf’s appetite for its land and people as seen in tplf’s manifesto of greater tigray, and insurgency all over ethiopia planned and funded by tplf will stop. No other scenario. Wait and see.
            Tplf is naked in front of the ethiopian and tigrayan people. It wrote its own death certificate by attacking in a cowardly way the same armed forces that are protecting tigray and its people.
            Egypt and its stooges will go nowhere. Egypt has used them in the past and may use them even today. Nevertheless, the world is a different place now. Day by day and year by year, ethiopians are becoming more aware of the importance of the unity and integrity of their country. They are ready to defend her.

          • Abi

            MM
            ጀግናው አማራ ያን የቀን ጅብ እያርበደበደው ነው::በግፍ የተነጠቀውን መሬት አስመልሶ ወደ ፊት እየገሰገሰ ነው:: ወንድሙን የትግራይ ህዝብ ነፃ ሳያወጣ አይመለስም!
            ባድሜን ለኤርትራ የምንመልስበት ቀን ሩቅ አይሆንም::

            ወልቃይትን ለአማራ!
            ባድሜን ለኤርትራ!

          • Brhan

            መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ
            ምስ ውግ እ ዘይወዓለስ ውግእ ጥዑም ይመስሎ ሰብ ምዝራብ ግዜ ምጥፋእ ከይከውን ነገሩ።

          • Abi

            Horizon
            Peace is in the Horizon!
            በወያኔ መቃብር ላይ ሰላም ያብባል!

  • Kokhob Selam

    Hi all,

    The Eritrean solders are not agreeing to fight for war and hopefully there are some part of our fighters are going to Sudan,,

    We didn’t forget you our visionary ..

    …..ከመይ ….. ዘይናፈቕ?….

    ሰብ=ሰብ ዘብሎ ኣካሉ ዶ ኾይኑ:-
    እቲ ዓጽመ ስጋ ዝጠፍእ በኒኑ:-
    ደሙ ተጨንጊዑ ነቂጹ ዝጨኑ:-
    ወረ ከይሞተ ‘ኳ ዝረአ ቆንቂኑ:-
    ምልክት ድኻሙ ዝረግፍ ኣስናኑ:-
    ክሓብኦ ዘይክእል ዝቃላዕ እርጋኑ::

    ሰብ=ሰብ ዘብሎ ፍልጠቱ ዶ ኾይኑ:-
    ምህሮን ትሞክሮን ብምግላጽ ተንቲኑ:-
    ደው እንድ ኣሉ ዝብል ምስ መርበባት መትኑ:-
    ኩሉ ገዲፍዎ ፈራሪሱ ዝዓኑ::

    የግዳስ:—-
    ነቲ ዝተዋህበካ ኣካል ምስ ኣእምሮ:-
    ብኣገባብ ተጠቂምካ ምስ እተማሓድሮ:-
    ንሰልም ን ራህዋ ኣሳኒኻ ምስ ተሕድሮ:-
    ንጠለባት ሓፋሽ ህዝብኻ ምስ ዘይተዕብሮ:-
    እዚ እዩ ሰብኣዊነትካ ዘልዕሎ ዘኽብሮ

    እዚ እዩ ‘ቲ ሰብ ሰብ ዘብሎ እምበር:-
    እንስሳ እንድ ኣሉ በሊዑ ዝነብር:-
    ልቡ ደው እንተይላ ዝመውት ዝቅበር:-
    ምሉእ የብሉን ናይ ‘ዛ ዓለም ነገር::

    ኢሂ ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ኩነልና መስካሪ:-
    ካብኻ ዶ ይሓይሽ እቲ ኣባይ ነሃሪ:-
    ሓይሊ ጸዓት ንሃገር ከፍሪ:-
    እስያስ ብህይወቱ መለስ ግን ኣብ ቀብሪ:-
    መኖም እዩ ሓሳሪ መኖም ከ ኸባሪ ?

    “ጸላኢና ድኽነት እዩ” ኢሉ ዘዕጥቕ:-
    ምስ ዓበይቲ ሃገራት ብሰልም ዝተሓናነቕ:-
    ዝተሰርቀ ንብረት ኣፍሪቃ ዘምልስ ዝነድቕ:
    ግድን እዩ ክዝከር ስርሑ ክናፈቕ::

    KS,,

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      It is simply beautiful poem, Kokhobay!!!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Hello Awatawian,

    The Rohingya genocide by the Myanmar (formerly Burmese) government against the Muslim Rohingya people is not the too far human catastrophic of epic proportion. This heinous act was happened under the watch of Burmes leader and Noble Peace Prize laureate Aung San Suu kyi. The current war of Abi Ahmed (noble peace prize laureate) of the Ethiopian Federal government against “Tigray state and Tigray people” will have a historical parallel with that of Aung San Suu, if it is not abated before it goes to a full flagged of ethnic cleansing. There is this idiotic foolish argument that says the war is against TPLF. It is the Tigray people who will fight to defend their rights and pay the ultimate sacrifice. Equally, it is not Abiy and his lieutenants who died in the unjust war. It is the Amara youth and Oromo youth…etc who died to protect the illegitimate power of Abiy. Can’t we voice for peace and negotiation than the bloody war on the making. Ethnic conflict can not be solved by war. What is the benefit of negations after human calamity is incurred. We have seen it on the border war between Ethiopia and Eritrea, which they call it senseless (both sides) after tens of thousand lives have lost. Leadership matters! Leadership matter in time of crises. This war does not help for the relationship of the Ethiopian social groups, rather it will elevate to enmity. There is no wisdom for unjust war.

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Amanuel
      You should have said something when your visionary leader killing the Amharas and Oromos.
      Your crocodile tears are as fake as the Tplf elections that you wholeheartedly endorsed.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Abi

        You forgot the killing-alive by the “visionary leader” who killed the vision, sweat and endeavor of those eritrean-ethiopians who enriched themselves by their own muscles. These were not only proud Eritreans, but also proud Ethiopians. The “visionary leader” was impoverishing Eritreas and Eritrea to turn around and become a benefactor, not from his pocket, but from pockets of international donators. Please don’t ignore these acts of the Eritrea-phobic visionless “visionary”.

        • Abi

          ሊቀመኳስ
          Congratulations!!!
          You successfully earned a downvote. Whoever downvoted this particular comment of yours is a vision less person.
          One thing apparently clear and should be emphasized is whoever worshipping the “ visionary leader “ after witnessing all the miseries he orchestrated on both people is undoubtedly a ወያኔ.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Jetaw,

            I down voted him too! For the first time! There is a saying in tigrigna that says: “ኣህያ የቆጠረህ፡ የገጠባ መሸፈኛ እንደሆነ ቁጠረው”. May be you have more fitting Amharic proverb.

      • Peace!

        Hi Abish,

        Are you reading what our opposition leader is saying? I rather listen to this song https://youtu.be/6wvCZdj8gXE.

        Peace!

        • Abi

          Peace
          Sorry buddy, You call this just a song? Try medicine/therapy instead.
          My all time favorite. I remember we talked about this song before.
          የፒያሳ ልጅ ይግደለኝ!

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ወንድም አማች

            Speaking of ፒያሳ and love songs, there is an Amharic love song I use to listen to when I was in Sudan. I use to listen to that music after a long day at work, when I was feeling beaten down by life or every time I felt blue – like missing Addis and regretting my የውንብድና ዘመን 🙂
            So, to relieve my stress I use to lay on my back on my bed and listen to that music sometimes for hours. I don’t remember the name of the song or the artist but these are some of the lyrics

            ጉም እጅ እግር የልው፡ ይወጣል ተራራ
            ሰውነቴ ከዚህ – ልቤ ከሷ ጋራ
            ኣ…..ይይይ! ሰውነቷ
            እንዳው ሰውነቷ

            እንደው ሰውነትዋ፡ እንደው ሰውነቷ (2)
            እንደው ሰውነትዋ፡ ያለ ሰው መቅረቷ

            And then it makes a tour through the streets (neighborhoods) of Addis and says

            የመርካቶን መንገድ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ
            ጥግጥጉን እልፌ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ

            የፒያሳን መንገድ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ
            ጥግጥጉን እልፌ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ

            የኣራት-ኪሎ መንገድ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ
            ጥግጥጉን እልፌ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ

            የካዛንችስ መንገድ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ
            ጥግጥጉን እልፌ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ

            የኣስመራን መንገድ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ
            ጥግጥጉን እልፌ፡ የኔ ቆንጆ

            The song was bootlegged – no name of artist or title – like most of the songs we had back then. I brought it to the states with me and I use to listen to it for a little while. Then it got lost in the jungle of my basement. Now can you help me with name of the artist and name of the song Thanks

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            I’m working on it. I have a friend who can help me find out. I will call him tomorrow. He lives in Addis.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Peace and Abi,

            Thanks for sharing. Abi, I am surprised Gelayewa is not your favourite:).

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Glad you liked it. I like almost every Muluken songs. I like Tewodros better.
            https://youtu.be/bp1VaY2vCT0

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam ወንድም ኣማች

        During his press release Dr. Abiy Ahmed called the Woyane top leaders ስግብግብ junta. What does ስግብግብ mean?

        Semere Tesfai

        • Abi

          ወንድም አማች
          ስግብግብ = greedy

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ወንድም አማች

            Thank you for the help. Now it makes sense

          • Abi

            ገንዘብካ ወንድም አማች

        • Hashela

          Semere

          gluttonous, voracious, ravenous, greedy, mean

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hashela

            “ስግብግብ = gluttonous, voracious, ravenous, greedy, mean”

            Hey Hashela, You surprised me in a good way. I didn’t see this coming from you.
            I thought you took days off from Awate to work on your body’s flexibility and agility – climbing some ice covered top mountains half the world away. Little did I know you were polishing your Amharic in Addis. Impressive!!

            እሞ ክልተ ሸውዓተ ወስኸሉ፡ ጽቡቕ ገርካ ክትትርጉመልና 🙂

            Welcome back home my dear!

            Semere Tesfai

          • sara

            selamat Hashela,
            I was talking with my colleague about the ongoing situation in our region and i was basing my discussion on what i read here in the forum, and she said something i couldn’t understand …. the word is
            Quisquilienforschung…. do you know what it means … and how does it connect when discussing current situation of the region.

          • Hashela

            Selam Sara

            The composite word you wrote consists of three words with several typos.
            For a moment let’s focus on the second and third words and write them correctly:
            Quellenforschung. It is a term used in journalism and classic literature research. It means researching the source/origin of a claim, a statement or a piece of a literary work.

            The first part the composite word is hard to guess. I believe it is not correctly written. Knowing the meaning of the second and the third word, gives you enough information, I hope.

        • Tensae

          ሰላም ብጻይ ሰመረ፥

          በቲ ቅርጥውን ውቁብን ቛንቛና “ሃርጋፍ ፥ ዝብኢ ቀትሪ” እንተበልናዮ ‘ታይ መስለካ? ንምዃኑ ንዓኻን ንኩሎም ከማኻ ኣፍቐርቲ ሃገሮምን ዕዙዝ ሰላምታ ኣይረሰዕኩን።

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ብጻይ ትንሳኤ

            በቲ ቅርጥውን ውቁብን ቛንቛና “ሃርጋፍ ፥ ዝብኢ ቀትሪ” እንተበልናዮ ‘ታይ መስለካ? ንምዃኑ ንዓኻን ንኩሎም ከማኻ ኣፍቐርቲ ሃገሮምን ዕዙዝ ሰላምታ ኣይረሰዕኩን።”

            ረጎደ…. ንመዓር፡ ጠስሚ ወረሮ ይብል።

            Thank you. Nice avatar, and welcome to the Awate family

            Semere Tesfai

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes Pro.Amuni,

      “There is no wisdom for unjust war.” This is very and perfect..Who is responsible when tens of thousand lives have lost?

      But we all have seen, the end of dictators,,,this will be similar end of horn too..Dr.Abiy and our crazy dictators wiil face similar fate…Karma is taking its course..

      KS,,

    • Peace!

      Hi Emma,

      In the last 27 years, TPLF has done nothing to help your cause and to save your people from PFDJ brutality rather it destroyed the opposition camp and been working relentlessly to undermine the unity of Eritreans for its plan B. If you are curious to learn about the genocide committed by TPLF, ask the Oromos, the Somalis in Jijiga, and the rest of Ethiopians, but since your motive for supporting TPLF is pretty much obvious, the pain of other is nothing to you. Your argument lacks logic to make a basic connection between saving Eritrea and defending TPLF. Let’s give a chance to the “surgical operation” (where is Hayat Adem) and liberate the innocent people from the jaw of day-Hynas. In case you think TPLF can be a good buffer zone, it won’t work because TPLF, too, has its own priority. Reducing TPLF to its right size is good for Ethiopians and for Eritrean unity.

      Peace!

    • Brhan

      Hello, Prof. A. Hidrat

      Thank you for your comment
      You are right this war won’t help Ethiopians. Look what A. Ahmed Ali is saying. For the second time today, he said that his fight is not with TPLF but with its leaders. One of his strategies in this conflict can be creating a division within the TPLF and not dismantling it at all. This can be due to the fact of his understanding to what TPLF mean to Tigrayans.It is a strategic understanding but what does this mean to us Eritreans? I will come to this later.

      So the official rhetoric is getting rid of “some” of TPLF leaders and not TPLF itself , as some of forumers here say or hope by continuing in becoming Catholics more than pope.

      To think a division can, happen within TPLF which got the majority popular vote in its recent elections in its region, seems what we call in Tigrinya ሕልሚ ደርሆ. This shows that Abiy doesn’t have clear strategy in his dealing with TPLF. This argument becomes strong when we are hear warlords in Amara region saying that they are ready to go to war with Abiy but if it is about eradicating the front. Also, many Ethiopians are wandering , what will be the result if the current conflict is not about ending TPLF which led others such as OLF in crafting ethinic federalism in Ethiopia, that has been bad to the country according to their view. In addition, the goal of the conflict is now in question by many Ethiopian social media presenters. They have been hosting diverse comments but totally different from this forum that seem like uniformed commentaries which can’t enrich constructive discussions at awate.com.

      As for Eritreans I strongly believe we are aware than any time that we won’t give the dictator again a chance to use this conflict for his interest. Because he thinks it is another opportunity that will save him again not to be accountable for his decades long wrong policies, if not lifetime policies. He hates accountability and can do anything to stop that. He is what Ethiopians call in Amharic ሰው በላ who tries to save himself at any time by going even against his righthand comrades of whom have been thrown to prison since 2001 where some of them died there.

      We have three vital issue with Ethiopia. Our occupied land, aggression and deportation of innocent Eritreans after the Badme war. Well , voices will say it was the TPLF, the TPLF did that. TPLF is not there now. And A. Ahmed Ali is not speaking about the occupied land, aggression that he particpated and that reached to Teseney and formal apology and compensation to Eritrean deportees. Is it because some told him that these vital Eritrean issues are like the issues with Egypt or the Sudan to be seen as a foreign issue? Sorry to disspoint many but Abiy is still in love with the TPLF.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Amanuel Hidrat

      1. – “The Rohingya genocide by the Myanmar (formerly Burma) government against the Muslim Rohingya people is not the too far history of human catastrophic of epic proportion. This heinous act was happened under the watch of Burmese leader and Noble Peace Prize laureate Aung San Suu kyi. The current war of Abi Ahmed (noble peace prize laureate) of the Ethiopian Federal government against “Tigray state and Tigray people” will have a historical parallel with that of Aung San Suu, if it is not abated before it goes to a full flagged of ethnic cleansing.”

      Few points here:

      A. – Aung San Suu kyi received the laureat Noble Peace Prize for one simple reason: for being a trusted Myanmar leader who was willing to serve Western interests – not the interest of her people or country.

      B. – This is not Abiy Ahmed’s war. The Woyanes has been preparing for this war politically, financially, militarily, and socially for the past two years. The show of force, the military bravados, the training, the day-in and day-out propogandas, the preparation of the Tigrean people, was all for this day

      C. – The Woyanes are not innocent leaders “war of Abiy Ahmed” imposed on them. They were intentionally at war with the Federal Government of Addis – defying and undermining the Federal Government’s authority – which is anarchism.

      D. – This war was provoked by the Woyanes themselves. You can’t prepare for war in every way for two long years, start a war feeling confident, and then when your miscalculation shows and things start crumbling – play the victim. What happen to the ridiculing of Abiy Ahmed’s patience, and mistaking it for weakness and incompetence? What happened the Tigrean invincibility?

      2. – “There is this idiotic foolish argument that says the war is against TPLF. It is the Tigray people who will fight to defend their rights and pay the ultimate sacrifice. Equally, it is not Abiy and his lieutenants who will die in the unjust war. ”

      Aman: Peace can’t come by the efforts of one side only. And the Woyanes are not innocent bystanders on this bloody war. There were many opportunities for them to deescalate the tensions between them and the Federal Government. And that would have made a world of difference. Regrettably, they didn’t. And as a result of the choices they made, they are in the predicament were they are in.

      Semere Tesfai

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Haw Semere,

        Let me counter argue to your point:

        Point-A: Both Noble Peace Prize laureates serve for the interest of the western politics. The Western policy makers are against “developmental state” wanted the Abiy government to open to western economic scavengers. Abiy is precisely doing that, without the consent of the other political groups. So don’t try to sugarcoat Abiy’s policy from ulterior motives stand.

        Point-B: The people of Tigray stood to protect the constitutional laws of the nation. Abiy postponed the election schedule as deemed by their constitution. Him and the legislative have no the constitutional power to postpone any election for any kind of reasons. Consult the document before you make your argument. Many countries in Africa conducted their election without being hindered by the COVID-19. The transgression of Abiy against their constitution is intended to have enough time to consolidate his power. The Tigray people have prepared to defend the conspiratorial war designed against them.

        Point-C: True the Wayane can not be innocent leaders, but Abiy, his lieutenants, and his enablers could not be innocent either. Avoid hypocrisy in your argument.

        Point-D: The Tigray people were hunted by the illegitimate Abiy regime from the time he cling to power. The war against them through out his three years tenure. Abiy is the aggressor not the Tigray people.

        Last, yes “peace is not the effort of one side”. Who is avoiding peaceful negotiation? The government of Abiy do not want to talk with government of the Tigray state. That is the fact. Conflict can not be addressed from the Minelik palace by giving orders only. Conflict is resolved by sitting in a round table to address the grievances of the states (kilils). Ethiopia is Federal government and he can give orders like a leader of “unitary government.”

        Thank you for your respectful engagement, unlike those who assume insulting as debating.

        Regards

      • David Samson

        Selam Semere,

        Off the mark analogy!

        What do Aung San Suu kyi and Abi have in common? Very few, if any:

        Both are Noble Laureate

        If were to ask the committee to reconsider its decision, I have no doubt the committee will withdraw the awards.

        I could go on and write pages to argue both leaders could not have different, but this is not my point.

        It seems you do not have an issue when the same committee awarded to a person whose ethos is based on western Liberal free market ideology. Was not the same Abi who was selling the sliver of the country to the highest bidder?

        You are comfortable when part of the country is being sold to Chinese commy government. FYI, the commy party owns half of Myanmar, part of Sri Lanka and Kenya as well. I do not recall any western company owning an entire country.

    • Selam Amanuel H.,

      As expected you are distorting historic facts by comparing the two Laureates. You, as a diehard Eritrean tplf apologist, you are denying that Ethiopia is defending herself from tplf’s treasonous aggression. Unabashedly, you call it ethnic cleansing when the unity and integrity of Ethiopia is contested by your organisation, tplf.

      Of course, the war is against tplf and not against the people of tigray, even then, against those at the leadership and not the ordinary followers, against the Mafia-terrorist group who killed, tortured, looted, and came to destroy Ethiopia, and still tries to do the same thing as we saw the last few days.
      The young man and woman, the farmer and generally the ordinary supporter have nothing to do with the serpent tplf. To kill a serpent one has to aim at the head of a serpent and not at its body. That is where the poison is found. Even if it doesn’t die, which is improbable in tplf’s case, because young tigrayans will be ashamed to call themselves tplf which betrayed them, it will not be the same serpent, the poisonous one it used to be.
      A terrorist group as it is, it committed the same crime as it used to commit when it was in the field, killing deceitfully when the other is asleep. You should know well how tplf used to function in the field, killing when the other group is asleep.
      When tplf started the war, did it expect the old farts who are hiding at different locations to die? Are they not sacrificing the innocent young tigrayans, whom they have brainwashed, to die for them even in their old age, at the end of their useless lives? They are such selfish and inhuman creatures.

      At last you and your tplf are talking about negotiations, forgetful of the fact that you people humiliated prominent Ethiopians, religious fathers and even foreign organizations, when they came to beg your tplf to negotiate. You were the biggest digital woyane on this site, who was fanning the situation to reach this dangerous stage.

      This unjust war was started by those whom you support with all your heart and power, which makes Eritrea jealous, because she is not sure if you can have similar fervent feelings for her too.

      Their diehard supporters and tplf are responsible for what is happening today. The law will get at tplf leaders, tigray will be freed from its grip, and it will be proved that the people of tigray are not hadi-libi and hadi-hizbi with tplf, as you say. Let all of you own your responsibilities.

  • leGacY

    Greetings Awate Community,

    I hope everyone is well!

    It is hard to fathom what is currently unfolding in our country. I have been distraught over the past few days and thought i would check in with my people .

    100m people’s fate rests in the hands of these people? where is the fairness in that?
    I am referring to every individual in that country who is in position of power and influence.

    Just upsetting!

  • Peace!

    Selam Awatawian,

    መርገጺ ኢርትራውያን ኣብ ውግእ ሕድሕድ ኢትዮጵያ ንፍትሒ ወይስ ንፓለቲካዊ ረብሓ?

    ብዓይኒ ኢትዮጵያውያን ክርኤ እንከሎ, ፈረንጃዊያን ከም ዝብልዎ what goes around comes around ህውሓት ኣብዝሓለፈ 27 ዓመታት ኣብ ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያ ዘውረዶ ማእለያ ዘይብሉ ግፍዒን መቕተልትን ተሓታቲ ምኻኑ ዓለም ሙሉእ ኣዳዕዲዑ ዝፈልጦ እዪ ሕጂ ድማ እቲ ዝዘረኣቶ ኣብ ምሕፍስ ትይርከብ::

    ብዓይኒ ኢርትራውያን ድማ እቲ ቀንዲ ጸረ ሓድነት ኢርትራዊያን ኮይኑ ዘላን ዝጸንሔትን ህውሓት ከምዝኾነት ኩሉ ደላይ ፍትሒ ዝፈልጦን ዝሓመሉን እዩ:: ኣብዝሓለፍ 27 ዓመታት ንብረቶም ራስያ ንኣሻሓት ኢርትራዊያ ዘባረረት ፣ ንተቓወምቲ ኢርትራ ኣብ ሹኩሹካ ኣእትዪ ህልም ዘበለ ፣ ንጸረ ኢርትራውነት ምንቅስቃስ ብግህዶ ናይ ንዋትን ገንዘብን ድጋፍ ብምግባር ንናይ ሲቪካውያን ማሕበራት ፍሕ ፍሕ ዘበለ ስለዚ ብወገን ኢርትራውያን እውን ህውሓት ዝዘርኣቶ እያ ትሓፍስ ዘላ::

    ስለዚ በዚ መለክዒ ንህዝቢ ኢርትራን ኢትዮጽያንን ኣይጠቐመትን ክጠቅም ኢልካ ምጽባይ እውን ናይ ካልእ ኣጀንዳ ምልክት እዪ::

    ዝለዚ እቲ ቀንዲ ሕቶ ምድኻም ናይ ወያነ ንሓድነት ኢርትራውያን ሓድሽ ትንፍስ ይህቦ ወይስ ንኢርትራ ንኻልኦት ወረርቲ ክቃልዓ ይኸውን?

    ክምዚ መስለኒ ሓድነት ኢርትራዊ ጥራይ እዩናይ ኢርትራ ውሕስነት::

    Peace!

    • Hashela

      ሰላም ሰላም

      ጽቡቕ ትንታነን ሕቶን።

      ኣብዛ እዋን እዚኣ መርገጽ ኤርትራውያን ብሩህ ክኸወን ኣለዎ፥
      1) ሽግር ኢተዮጵያውያን ብኢተዮጵያውያን ጥራሕ እዩ ዝፍታሕ።
      2) ስለዚ፡ ወተሃደራዊ ምትእትታው ብወገን ኤርትራ ኣየድልን’ዩ።
      3) ካብ ተታሒጁ ደሎ መሬትና እንተወጺኦም፣ ምስ መሪሕነት ተጋሩ ነባሪ ጽልኢ የብልናን።

      • Peace!

        Hi Hashela,

        መሊስካ ኣጸቢቕካያ ግርም!

        እታ መሰረታዊ ቀልዓለም ዘይብላ ሕቶ ሓድነት ህዝቢ ኢርትራ ወይስ ህውሓት ምራጽ እያ ክልቲኦም ብሓንሳብ ኣይከዱን እዮም::

        ኣብ ዝሓለፈ 27 ናይ ህውሓት ተራ ኣብ ሓድነት ኢርትራዊያንን ህላዌ ኢርትራን ሪኢናዮ ኢና ስለዚ ቁኑዕ መርገጺ ምውሳድ ናብቲ ተደልየ ንምብጻሕ ክም መገዲ ምጥጣሕ እዩ ዝቑጸር::

        Peace!

        • Hashela

          Selam Peace

          ሕውሓት ህላወ ልእላዊት ኤርትራ ስለ ዘይውሓጠሉ፥ ምስ ሕውሓት ተሓባቢርካ ሃናጺን ነባርን ለውጢ ኣብ ኤርትራ ክትፈጥር ከም ማይ ሓቚንካ ልኻይ ምጽባ’ዩ።

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ኲናት ተወሊዑ
    ዕሸላት ኣብዘይ ዕድሚኦም ክስልዑ
    ከይሰተዩ ከይበልዑ

    ናብራ ዓለም ከየስተማቐሩ
    ህያው ንእስነቶም ታተ ከይበሉ

    ምቓረት ዓለም ከይጠዓሙ
    ምቁር ንእስነቶም ከይሓለሙ
    ሂወትኩም ኣይናትኩምን ‘ያ ተባሃሉ
    ሂወቶም ከምዘይናቶም ምዃና
    ኣስተውዓሉ
    የግዳስ
    ኣብ ወጻኢ ኴኖም
    ምሳኻ ኢና ዝብሉ
    መታን ቪላታቶም ከይፈርስ
    ዝድብሉ

    ደም ዘይብሎም
    ባንዴራ ህግደፍ ተጠቕሊሎም
    ኤረትራውያን ክመስሉ
    ገበነኛ ኢሳያስ ኮለኔል ኣቢ
    ክብሉ
    ይጭድሩ
    ምእንቲ ኤረትራ ዝብሉ
    ከመይሉ?

    ከሓድቲ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ይነብዕ
    ክንደይ ስቓይ ከምዘይሕለፍኩ
    ከም ዘይቆሰልኩ
    ከም ዘይሰንከልኩ

    ሕጅውን ዘሕለፍኩዎ ስቓይ
    ኣብ ቅድመይ
    ተገቲሩ ከም ጸሓይ
    ተገይጹ ይስሕቀኒ
    ኣይተረደኣንን ክንድዚ ጭካነ
    ስኢነሉ መዐቀኒ

    ደኒነ
    ተደዊነ
    ከመይሉ ‘ዩ ናተይ ጸገም
    ኣብ ዓዲ-ሓሎ
    ‘ንከሎ
    ዝተበሃልኩ እንኮ ጸላኢኻ ወያነ?

    እዝነይ ድዩ ጠሊሙኒ
    ዋላ ኣነ ጠሊመዮ
    ዓየነይ ክነብዕ ኡስ ኢለ ዝርእዮ

    የዒንተይ ይነብዑ
    ካልኦት ኣካላተይ ክበልዑ
    ከመይ ‘ሉ?
    ተደናጊረ እስከ ንገሩኒ ከመይ ‘ሉ?
    መልሲ ስኢነሉ
    እምበርዶ ብጥዕናይ ኣለኹ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      አንታ መሃንድሳይ,

      እንታይ’ዮም ገይርሎም ህግ/ህግደፍ?ነገሩ እኮ ምርዳእ አብዩና:: ንምኻኑ’ኳ ቀደም ኢና አለሊናዮም:: እቲ ሕጂ “ወያነ” ከም ቀንዲ ጸላሊኦም ወሲዶሞ ዘለው ውድብ: ከም ቀንዲ ፈታዊኦም ገይሮም ንተሓኤ ኸአ ከም ቀንዲ ጸላኢቶም ወሲዶም: ብሓባር አንጻር ኣሕዋቶም ደማዊ ውግእ ገይሮም ክበቅዑስ: ሕጂ ንመንዮም ወያነ ጸላኢና’ዩ ኢሎም ዝግዕሩ:: ዝገርም እዩ ናይ ‘ዚኣቶም ፓለቲካ ነገር:: እቲ ዘገርም ከአ እቶም ምሁራት ኢና ዝብሉ ኣሕዋትና መሳሪሒ ፓለቲኮኦም ምኻኖም እዩ:: ኢሳያስ ጸላኢናን ፈታዊና ኢሉ ብዘቅረበሎም ዝምድሩ::

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ
        ብሓንቲ ቃል ክገልጻ ‘ንተዄነ [ተሓዋዊስዎም] ምበልኩ።

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          አነስባ ሕልንኣም ዝሸጡ: ወይውን ብሕልንኦም ዘይምእዘዙ ምበልክዎም:: አንታ ሰብ ምሁር ብፕሮፓጋንዳ ናይ መንግስቲ ዝምወልን መሳርሕን ካብኮነ ትምህርቶም ንህዝቦም እንታይ ፋይዳለዎ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ
            ‘ዛ ናትካ ድማ [ሃብታም ኣገላልጻ] ምበልኩዋ!
            [ምሁር-ደንቆሮ] ዝበሉ ከምዚ ምስረኣዩ ዶ ‘ኸውን?

  • said

    Greetings ,

    To his credit Ethiopia’s prime minister, Abiy Ahmed, being in power since 2018 ,he introducing democratic reforms after decades of repression, and for signing a peace deal with Eritrea.
    But today PM AA announced a sweeping military operation against TPLF and ordered his forces to counter attach and hit back in response to what he claimed was an attack by Tigray’s ruling party on a base housing federal troops. “The red line has been crossed,” he said. And accusing them of “crossing the last red line.” He said he had ordered the Ethiopian Army “to carry out their mission to save the country and the region.”
    TPLF will not be easy to subdue, they being preparing and anticipating for war. What is Abiy up to? In a nutshell, PM AA is a besieged politician today. Abiy’s attempt to consolidate his power constituted a high risk. Abiy knows well TPLF represents a security threat . He has failed to deliver on his promises, especially on political reform and the economy and that disaffection is growing exponentially . The pressure was cooking for a while ,a rhetoric in recent weeks has been highly charged and that a standoff between the federal government and the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) could easily plunge Ethiopia into bloody civil conflict. One can not under estimate Tigray’s TPLF relatively strong forces, they kept federal military personnel and its military equipment .The fact that TPLF dominated Ethiopia’s governing coalition for decades , with tens of thousands of men under arms , rightly or wrongly, they see themselves locked in an existential battle with the Abiy Ethiopia. But in realty it is ongoing struggle for power. Like the first one TPLF war with Ethiopia which in all purposes was a continuation of the first one was all because of marginalization, poverty, ethnicity , TPLF after defeating dictator, Mengistu Haile Mariam, in 1991.With Meles Zenawi at top , Tigray prosperity was evident ,it was not equally shared with rest of Ethiopia.

    I wouldn’t wish the pain and suffering to anyone, I do not have a Clear and certain narratives, the people of Ethiopia are living in uncertain and critical times. it has two sides. who knows? What WILL HAPPEN. And what will follow and Whatever the outcome, What did it all mean? Where was it all going? one thing is certain:, Given the circumstances, the divisions tearing Ethiopia apart, facing violence and instability , Ethiopia who are clinging for dear life are fearful of what is happening to their country, The current Ethiopia crisis is in part due to , constitution , nationalism ,federalism and ethnicity , and partisanship is all a powerful force , and most importantly Power Play between the elites collation . there’s really no limit to how bad this can get. vindication and vilification of both sides it is an Ethiopian Abiy -versus TPLF – issues in dispute are deeper than ever before. can Ethiopia come together ? And if it cannot — a real possibility — what form will Ethiopia take as it disintegrates? Each one will trash the other from their perspective. In this divided Ethiopia, at times, Ethiopian seem to detest each other. while telling themselves a story about how this is justified. TPLF dug their heels in so hard, they invested more of themselves , more of their ruling Ethiopia, more of their reputation — in this choice Ethiopia, and therefore the sunk costs of admitting they were wrong and ignoring their corruption, former PM Melees one who spelled out his brutal policies during his rule of 27 years and put them into practice and he become a dictator’s and dismantling the institutions that could hold him accountable. the strongman PM Melees ,he claimed the savior of Ethiopia, skilled as a politician he advertised himself to be progressive , for many Ethiopian who is one ruining their country, since 2018 Tigray TPLF are out of power at the federal level, In September, Tigray held regional elections in defiance of the central government, which called the vote “illegal”.
    today Ethiopia, a broken country and a heartbreaking place to live, they are divided over politics, constitution ,ethnicity , culture, and history. would this diverse people ever agree to form a compact to come together, or would they seek to retain their separate identities? A significant slice of Oromo people feel their cultures and the enslavement, mainly young believes that the nation to which they belong was detestable from its birth. and deeply resentful. wrong evil and immoral

    Right now, many millions of people are fearful about the emerging civil war and its aftermath. TPLF defeat, while probable, is not certain at all, they control Tigray . Even if it comes, there is likelihood of continued civil unrest and political violence and it is predictable . But the fear was there and signal was obvious . It tells us that moment connects them in an unbreakable thread to so many of the present Ethiopian generations that came before them and came after them—generations who fought Italian invaders and fought fascism. And even if Abiy Government will prevail, the coming times will be very tough and scary. There will be hardship, and so many other issues.
    In todays Ethiopia where the human rights violations are so badly out of control, where democracy is being postponed or taken away. But this is where Ethiopia are. Even if Abiy pulls this out, this country remains in real trouble.

  • Kim Hanna

    All Awate friends,

    The day I thought will never come, appears just did. The unfolding tragedy in Ethiopia is a heart break. I blame all those in a position of leadership for ushering in such a monumental catastrophe.
    I do not have any useful information or comment for that matter. What do you do or say when your children pull out a knife and swear to kill each other in the house. May God have mercy.

    Mr. K.H

    • Abi

      Mr Kim
      Uncharacteristically, you are exaggerating BIGLY!!!

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Kim,
      I share your concern. I Hope wisdom will win the day. Ethiopia does not have another the option of emerging from “modern” Zemene Mesafnt”. I mean there will be no a Tewodros II that could rise from humble peasant life in Quara and crush other war lords and re-unite the country. I think your PM’s alliance with the devil from my country will do good to the country.

      • Brhan

        Salam Ustaz
        Your last sentence: “I think your PM’s alliance with the devil from my country will do good to the country” ?

        • Ismail AA

          Ahlen Ustazna,
          Thank you for the note. It was unintentional mistake on my part.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Kim Hanna,

      It is indeed sad! But remember, some of your children are locked in their room and threatening to blow the house unless they dictate their terms. Those who lecture you about peace are contributing logs of wood to the fire. A very far placed jouralist from Norway (KT) is suggesting to your locked children to blow the roof and get arms from the sea.

      The solution comes when everyone questions himself/herself and proposes a way out without dictating terms. The one who thinks he is always righteous has something wrong inside.

      • Selam Haile S.,

        It is difficult to understand what tplf is trying to do. It is utter madness. It seems that there is a group in tplf that takes decisions when they are under the influence of alcohol and some sort of substance.
        What do they want to achieve by attacking the military stationed in tigray to defend their state, unless they are on a mission to serve some foreign power by creating chaos in the country? It is not an easy job to force to surrender an army that has fought a war, well armed and well trained. Moreover it has reinforcements from all directions, while tplf is surrounded on all directions.
        It is said that some of the tplf special forces were wearing the uniform of the eritrean armed forces to trick the people that they have been attacked by Eritrea. It seems that they are succeeding nowhere, both at the center and the periphery at the border with the amhara state, where they have opened a front.
        They have attacked in a cunning way, when no one was expecting, especially from a domestic force and in times of peace.
        Tplf’s action is similar with that of a suicide bomber. They are condemned to lose. They seem not to care at all for the people of tigray other than for their power. Such decisions come from senile brains and brains that have been incapacitated with alcohol and substances.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Horizon,

          Through the ingenious help of EPLF (and its own as well), TPLF came to power in Ethiopia in 1991, and to prominence & absolute power and acceptance by Ethiopians in 1998 thanks to the “Manna of war” TPLF prepared and made to fall from heaven for its own sake. It used Eritrea as an Escalator to power and prominence in the region and Africa. Whether it was Isayas’s or Ibrahim’s Eritrea, TPLF has decided to use Eritrea as its marching steps to power. Their target has never been Isayas, it is Eritrea. The reason is that Tigray has no base to be independent like Eritrea, but the aspiration is there. (The past plans as well as TPLF’s in the 80’s to merge Tigray to Eritrea failed). When one cannot reign all the time, he satisfies his aspiration by becoming a king maker. Their aspiration has manifested in various form in the last decades by not letting their ambitious grip on Eritrea. We even see it nowadays by implicating various Eritrean movements in their current insurgency (read meskerem-dot-net). Also worth mentioning TPLF’s historians theatrical conferences and history telling passtime sessions by inviting Eritrea Agazians in the last 4 or 5 years, trying to reducule Eritreans and by considering themselves as genitors of every populace in the region. It is a sickness!

          Voluntary or not Ethiopians have been feeding this feeling of superiority of TPLF. Just take the example of “Tigray was the most forgotten province of Ethiopia” accepted by many many people. How? More than Wollo, Wollega, GamuGofa, Bal’e, Ilubabor? Just because TPLF said so and bacause it wanted to establish EFFORT without any opposition.

          Look its ancient ministers, notably the foreign one, he feels he is there for-life minister, spitting all his poison on Eritrea in the name of Isayas, doing what he has been doing for the last 2 decades trying to impoverish Eritrea in the name of Isayas. We don’t need to be freed from our “monster” by another “monster”.

          TPLF was on the clouds hovering Ethiopia, dominating everything (you know better on these aspects). They need to land on earth. If they do come out of their dream and settle, they can live in peace in their country as equal and as brothers/sisters and neighbours with us.

          • Selam Haile S.,
            You have sliced and diced tplf and examined it under the microscope and explained its nature in a professional way. Thanks a lot.
            Its fate is written on the wall. The end has come. Tigrayan fighters are abandoning it and defecting to the neighbouring states, Eritrea included, as we hear in the news, which shows that tplf was never tigray and tigray was not tplf.
            If everything succeeds, the next step should be to put in place a pro-tigray and pro-peace tigrayan political party, as a provisional regional government of tigray until the elections, and herd the traitors to prison to face the law for betraying Ethiopia and Tigray.

          • Desbele

            Selam ,
            If someone can help explain ” … in 1998 thanks to the “Manna of war” TPLF prepared and made to fall from heaven for its own sake…” with the international ruling in the Hague of “Eritrea triggered the border war with Ethiopia when it attacked its neighbour in May 1998. Since there was no armed attack against Eritrea, its attack on Ethiopia could not be justified as lawful self-defence under the United Nations charter.”

          • Abi

            Desbele
            During the 1998 war Tplf was able to gain the support of almost every Ethiopian. As much as I HATED Tplf from day one, I was saying ግፋ በለው , አሳደህ በለው ያንን አመፀኛ ወስላታ ወንበዴ….during the border war. If this is not manna , I don’t know what is.
            I think this is what Haile is trying to say.
            If

          • Desbele

            Abi,
            Manna from heaven is something unexpected. But, same sentence describes TPLF prepared it. TPLF may have escalated the conflict (manna?) but the 98 war was instigated by DIA. The claim by the Federal government that TPLF attacked its force may be the same lie like the dictator used in 98. Any way if 98’s ‘manna’ brought them to prominence let’s see what 20’s would bring.
            በ 98 ጦርነት ስለተሳተፍኩ ፈጽሞ ፈጽሞ በለው ኣሳደው ኣልልም። ጥሪህ ለሰላም ይሁን።

          • NewDawn

            Selam Desbele, one cannot forget their military incursion in adi murag , their fake maps which they went as far as to print them on their currency notes and lastly their non-sensical killing of unarmed eritreans sent to negotiate in Badme. This all happened before Isaias rolled his tanks into Badme.

            They certainly wanted the war and the blood of eritreans to show their ethiopian-ness and to consolidate power.

          • Desbele

            Selam NewDawn,
            The report says there was no armed attack against Eritrea. Hard to believe all these claims by pfdj. I would say they are fabrications. The most credible information i have is that they were negotiating until a team lead by Abraha Kassa and Sibhat left Addis and then gun fire.
            I believe Isaias instigated the war to avoid the implementation of the constitution, which would lead to rule of law, accountability and term limit- a nightmare for a megalomaniac power monger.

          • David Samson

            Selam Desbele,

            Mike Tyson was one the strongest fighter ever to grace the boxing world. He was the untouchable new kid in the block, well, until the arrival of Douglas Buster.

            As with Tyson, IA was looking for his next opponent, but was
            hard to find one around, so IA was bored with life. His next opponent was busy building up his stamina and muscles. When he was ready, he told IA, I am not longer a pushover and ready to toe–for toe with you. As with Tyson, IA did not take his opponent serious until the third round. Despite the rounds went all the way to the wires, IA was badly bruised and lost on points.

            IA’s pride and prestige were badly damaged; he has been working hard to destroy his enemy, but nature has changed the course of the bout.

            Despite ageing and unable to pull a bunch, IA is ready to fight with old nemesis’s blood relatives. He wants to spill blood on this cursed land. His old enemies’ relatives are not willing to take his bluff, but when a push comes to shove, this time around, there are no rounds, but all-out knockouts. Though rounds could be difficult to predict, it is not far-fetched to conclude that IA will be knocked out in the first few rounds. His poor cheerleaders and opponents are the real losers.

            IA had promised Eritreans, there will not be Eritrea without
            me. Not many paid attentions, but it is now too late and too little. Poor Eritrea and its inhabitants will be buried in history.

          • NewDawn

            Selam David, you truly embolden the pessimism of the intellect. I need Berhes ideas and optimism whenever i read your doom and gloom forecasts.

            Would you care to elaborate as to why Isaias will be knocked out early, i had always thought of Isaias as Mayweather-esque fighter, carefully analysing the situation and downloading the data, ready to systematically break down his opponents. This has certainly being the case in eritrea. I had imagined this will be the same for Tplf.

          • David Samson

            Selam ND,
            Ya, Berhe could fill up your inners with his good-feel factor.
            The other options:
            Listen to SGJ’s sermon before the end of his clips. He always ends up his clips with Good triumph over evil.
            Watch Tv-Eri.
            You could also attend masses on Sundays.
            I only deal with the worst case scenario. I do not take a short cut and rather deal with realpolitik.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            You are not dealing with worst case scenario but as a matter of fact what he S going to happen.

            IA had promised Eritreans, there will not be Eritrea without me. Not many paid attentions, but it is now too late and too little. Poor Eritrea and its inhabitants will be buried in history.

            In the above example, are predicting worst case scenario or you sure of the future of Eritrea.

            What you profess is doom and gloom of Eritrea future. Other people have been in worst situation and they have managed to change the course of their faith and Eritrea will be no different.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,
            ND had missed your feel-good factor. Glad you are around to bring good omen.

            You still are missing my points.

            Would not be easier for me to paint rosy picture so that everyone will love me? This is the simplest rout I could have taken and would not have raised an issue.
            Worst-case scenario means you start with the most extreme. My aim is to bring the dooms into public arena in the hope someone will take a different course of action.
            Have you not heard a critic means? Someone who takes a dim view and is not being swayed by good feel factor and false narrative.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            I know what a critic means and if you are in the business of avoiding risk, I can see why.

            By the way I am not in the business of feeding false narrative and false hope. I am in the business of finding solution to a problem and I would rather focus on finding solution rather than killing hope and “beating a dead horse”.

            why do you think and believe that the future of the whole country is in the hands of a single human being?

            Yes he can do lots of damage as he has done, but our people are still standing, still hoping and still waiting for better days.

            I see your approach, that we should just give up all together and there is no point.

            Speaking of false hope, actually you do that on many occasions. For example, you say, we should ask the Italians to come back and rule us. This is really far fetched dream of yours and there is absolutely no chance can materialize.

            I on the other hand, would love to see and work towards the possibility of Eritrean joining towards the “common wealth” groups.

            Where countries such as Rwanda have done so and they see the fruits of their attempts bearing fruit as it opened the door to education and development.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            “Speaking of false hope, actually you do that on many occasions. For
            example, you say, we should ask the Italians to come back and rule us.
            This is really far fetched dream of yours and there is absolutely no
            chance can materialize.”
            Selam Berhe,

            You are still missing my points.

            You will struggle to read my mindset.

            No, No and No. Reason for bringing the Italians back is many Eritreans suffer from lack of elementary history. They have no idea the country was colonised 100 years ago. Forget history pre-dated-18 century.

            “You can’t breath politics with out inhaling history”

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            May be I misunderstood what your point really is when you say that.

            They way I understood you was, that you are telling us, we should just give up and there is no point or that we are incapable of developing like most of the human race can.

            I think you are exaggerating a little bit that most Eritreans had no to idea that Eritrea was colonized. If that’s the car then, the problem lies with our teaching and with the lack of our people who knows better to educate that who missed out.

            I am convinced and I have lots of evidence to support it, most Eritreans believe what we are going through is not by our choice. It’s something forced upon us and we wanted it removed.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            Democracy brings the good-feel and gloomier parties into the middle ground. While you go for the good-feel factor, I stick with my gloom side . I am sure hope always triumphs over the gloomier. I am too, but take a different route. Let’s march on our ways.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Desbele,

            “98 ጦርነት ስለተሳተፍኩ ፈጽሞ ፈጽሞ በለው ኣሳደው ኣልልም። ጥሪህ ለሰላም ይሁን።”
            I also had participating of the 1980 war which was the most difficult time in all ..

            Yes,
            Everybody of us will regret if we start conflicts ,contradictions and violence …. People will accept each other the are when they reach in 5D stage but now, everyone is in 3D stage and it …To go to 5D we will move through difficult time..

            We need to remember from where we came..and that is not an easy journey… Even one may reach that all heaven on earth and come back again..then it takes long time to be free..What we are witnessing is the most difficult time to pay our karma… If every one of them are thinking properly.none of them will start the war.. TPLF didn’t start it that crazy Dr.Abiy start it..But don’t forget TPLF has gone through war years too and this all is not all came to us for a reason..

            Now during those US,Corona,,virus we the world people are suffering..This to think and go within everyone of us think and come to solution..

            KS,,

          • Hashela

            Abi

            despite the sharp mind with which you are blessed, it is a puzzle that it took you 20+ years to decipher the deceptive nature of TPLF.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            Assab is your headache not mine. I wait until you bring it back on a silver platter refurbished, sanitized and with a huge incentive that is competitive and exiting.
            Tell me your plan as to how you make Assab competitive and usable. It is your responsibility to make it a vibrant port or a dilapidated camel sanctuary.

            When it comes to Tplf, I knew their deceptive nature from day one. You were the one sleeping with them till 1998. Some still worshipping them day and night in this forum.
            Again, I supported them during the border war. When it comes to your sovereignty, you support your government no matter what. You might have a different opinion on this.

        • Hashela

          Hi Horizon

          If it is true that the shooting was initiated by TPLF, it is indeed a madness.
          However, it is a mistake to assume that TPLF is acting from a state of chemically induced delirium. It is a very calculating group and their action must be understood from a popular mobilization effort perspective. It is possible, unknown to us, that they were losing the popular support at their home base and they see war as a viable mechanism for reviving the declining confidence level of the Tigrayan people for which they seem to care lees.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Kim,

      Unfortunately, it is sad news when they could site in a round to find a political solution. When politicians arrogated and escalate the situation, there is no alternatives, except the military should take the power to save the nation and its people from this bloody war and exert the necessary pressure to bring the political forces in to a table to form a transitional government similar to that of Sudan. I don’t see any other alternatives to diffuse the situation. I am sad to some Ethiopians in this forum tries to funnel the situation.

      Regards

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Amanuel
        The best alternative is to remove the cancerous tumor aka Tplf by force.
        Problem solved. The military is crucial in removing these cancerous cells.
        Sorry to disappoint you, Sir.

      • Peace!

        Hi Emma,

        Nothing new it’s been sad news for decades it is just now the involved innocent people are from different ethnic group. People were cheerleading when Meles murdered and internally displaced thousands Oromos and Somalis with his highly trained Liyu Hyle, when he invaded Somalia and murdered innocent people for money, when he executed innocent protesters in broad daylight, when he arrested and tortured journalist and religious leaders, and goes on. The crime committed by TPLF has now become a burden for the innocent Tigreans, and I hope they will find a way out soon.

        Peace!
        All Lives Matter

        • Abi

          Hello Peace
          This time it is going to be a quick appendectomy.

          • Peace!

            Hi Abish,

            Not sure if Abiy is smart enough to cut off the head of the snake and bring the venomous TPLF to its right place. The sooner the better, Ende Metawkew የቸገረው እርጉዝ ያገባል.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Peace
            What head?
            The head is gone!

          • Kibreab

            Ras Abi,

            Rumor has it PMAA is using the blueprint of “surgical removal” operation devised by people here who are now pretending to shed tears for the potential loss of life. Too bad for them he changed the target. ያገርህ ዘፋኝ ምንድነው ሚለው ስለ ሂፖክራሲ ሲናገር?

          • Abi

            Hello Kibreab
            Long time no talk
            አዳኙ የሚታደንበት ዘመን ላይ ደርሰናል:: ክብር ለአብ ይገባዋል::

            “ጊዜ ከመስታዎት እንደምን ይለያል
            እንኳን የሰው ፊቱን ጀርባውን ያሳያል”
            ይልሃል ቴዎድሮስ ታደሰ

          • Kibreab

            Ras Abi,
            Thank you. You don’t disappoint. This is beautiful and fitting.
            I think I only know one or two of Tedros’ songs. I just randomly picked one for background music and this is what he is singing.

            ጥፋተኛው ገላ ተቀጣ ተማረ
            ዛሬም ጶሜኛ ነው ስያስቢሽ ኣደረ….

            ኣልወዲሽም ያልኩት ውሸቴ ዉሸቴ
            እምቢ ኣለኝ ያላንቺ ኣፍ ኣወጣ ቤቴ
            ያልሆንኩትን ብለዋል ይቀጣ መላሴ
            ገና ወድሻለው ይጠየቅ ትራሴ….
            If your arrogant country folk were smart and care about their people, they would drop the bravado and sing with him. But, the region is not that lucky.

          • Abi

            Kibreab
            I know practically every song by Tewodros Taddesse. He is the best.
            Let me continue with the song
            በሞቴ በሞቴ የኔ ሁለንተና
            በቃህ በይኝና አውጪኝ ከፈተና
            ምናኔ እንዳልገባ ለገዳም አልበቃ
            ቀጣፊ ምላሴ ከልቤ ላይ ርቃ
            በምድር ያለኝ ሃብቴ ነሽ
            በውስጤ ኑሪ ገነሽ
            ሳቅ ወዴት ይገኛል ደስታስ ምንድን ነው
            ሌቱ አይልም ዝንፍ ያላንቺ ዘበት ነው
            This song is therapeutic!

            You must do better

          • Kibreab

            Ras Abi,

            I could not make out some of the words but I enjoyed the lyrics and the song. Thank you. I will listen to more of his music.

          • Abi

            Kibreab
            Tewodros is by far my all time favorite singer.
            All credits go to the legendary ይልማ ገብረአብ. He wrote almost all the lyrics that you hear in the songs.
            If you stay around I promise to sing for you every day.
            As always, great talking with you.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I hate saying this but my few months prediction is becoming real.
            Ethiopia will beat former Yugoslavia, unless wise people rise up and saved it from becoming one.
            Are you sure you can’t see the danger looming over your country?
            Wherever Isayas goes, war follows 🙁

          • Abi

            MM
            Unfortunately your prediction is worse than the weather channel.
            I think I remember your prediction and recommended software update:)
            Unfortunately, You are not doing any better. I suggest you request a refund:)
            I warned you to avoid aftermarket parts. Well, you never listen.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            For the sake of your people, I hope I am wrong but it is going that way. While I am there, the region loses the most is the Amhara region. Think about it. Ethiopian Afars don’t have any issue with Eritrean or Djibouti Afars. Ethiopian Somalis don’t have any issue with their Somali neighbors, Gambela/Shanqila with South Sudan, Oromos were and are for their independent state, and so on. The region who is inciting to go to war with Tigray is the most to lose. I would say that is not wise move.
            I hope the crazy man in Adi-Halo doesn’t drag my people into this mess.

          • Brhan

            መርሓባ መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            እዚ ኣረጊት ኣብ ዓዲ ሃሎ ተነጺሉ ዝነብር ዘሎ ውልቀ መላኺ ዝባኑ ዝድርዓሉ ኩነታት ባዕሉ መሪጹ ኣሎ። ምስ መንግስቲ ናብ ፍጹም ውድቀት ሃገር እተመርሕ ዘላ ዘርእዩ ዘሎ ምትእትታው ንውድቀቱ ከምዘምርሖ ዝፈለጠ ክመስል ኣጽቅጥ ኣቢሉ ኣሎ ። እቲ ምንታይ ሎሚ ሕዝብና ብሕልፊ መናእሰያትና ካብ ማንም እዋም ንላዕሊ ሽጣራኡ ፈሊጦም ለፍሊፉ እንተለፍለፈ ኣይክሰምዕዎን ኢዮም። ደይ ቀደም ዘጸግዖ ሰብ ምስ ሰኣነ ኢዩ ምስ ኣቢይ ኣሕመድ ጠገለ ዘይብሉ ናቱ ናይ ውልቁ ዝምድና ዝፈጠረ። ሻቡ ኣቢይ ናብዚ ናይ ሎሚ ኩንታት ከምዘምርሕ ፈሊጡ ነይሩ እንተዝኽውን ክልተ ግዜ ምስ ሓሰበ ነይሩ ምበልኪ ። ሕጂ ግን ዝኾነ ነገር ኮይኑ ኣሎ። ባዕሉ ዝ ኣተዋ ጉድጓድ ከምትበልዖ ፈሊጡ ይብህርር ኣሎ።እዚ ናይ ሕጂ ዕንደራኡ ከምዛ ኣብ ቢሑቕ ኣትያ እትወጽእ ንጻል ጸጉሪ ርእሲ ክወጽእ ( ማለት ቅንጣብ ቢሑቕ ከይሓዘት) ክትኮነሉ እውን ኣብ ዓዲ ሃሎ ላዕልን ታሕትን ይብል ኣሎ።

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Brihan,
            The Adi-Halo guy always miscalculated…starting from his AA university, pre-expulsion warning [mind you not exactly dropout]. Again, this was another one.

          • Brhan

            Selamat MM
            In another page:
            The Ethiopian gov’t in its official statement today said what is happening in Ethiopia: 1) is not war 2) but a conflict 3) and a conflict between brothers 4)as well as not conflict with TPLF as a party ( My question is: Is it against one or two or three persons Debretsion G.Asefa and Sibhat Nega. If so do they need these all fuss ?)

            From the above statement, I believe , you can see how A. Ahmed is softening the issue and I do not know why?
            But anyways A. Ahmed’s “It is not war but conflict” discourse may calm some forumers here who become Catholics more than pope.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Brihan,
            My guess is [reading from few news outlets], the North division stationed in Tigray is huge % of over all Ethiopian military. If true, that group has sided with Tigray. Remember, this division is probably the most powerful group within the military. Colonel Abyi had underestimated them. Without it, there is no way he can fight TPLF. Blame his advisor, our one and only one the devil Isayas.
            Isayasy and his newly bride have failed!

          • Abi

            MM
            Your reading comprehension is worse than your understanding of current situations.
            Something is telling me that you are disturbed.
            Your robotic mind miserably failed at the following
            -prediction
            -reading comprehension
            -understanding current and situation

            Report to the closest electronics recycling center ASAP.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Correct yourself. Robatic mind can’t be anti hgdf. Without understanding current, I couldn’t do my job. Period.
            You know what you need Abi? Upgrading your OS. After that you will be fine!

          • Abi

            MM
            Good one!
            I believe you will understand the current situation better if you control or reduce the current rushing through your robotic mind.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Losing memory lately? I can’t blame you. Remember, I have so many TVS diodes to clap any transients but thanks for the concern. You are such a good neighbor!

          • Barbaro A.

            Ustaz Birhan:
            Are u hallucinating or smoking something?
            Where have you been hiding when the Terrorist TPLF Junta has been threatening Eritra and Eritreans and their existence as a nation and as a people for 20 yrs?

          • Brhan

            ስልጣን
            ኣብ ዓዲ ሃሎ ነይረ።

          • Barbaro A.

            Selam Ustaz Brhan:
            Exactly my point!
            You, the so called Opposition, are way WORSE than the Monster at Adi Halo!

          • Brhan

            Selam Ustaz Sultan
            You are neither with the regime nor with the oppositon ( which also includes civic movements such as ይ ኣ ክ ል / كفاية that I am part of)
            Where do you stand? I know the answer. With the oppositon and the proof is your particpation in this great website. File closed. Let us now go to other topics that I am always glad to discuss with you.
            Blessed Friday.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Brhan,

            You asked him where he stands? Well, if he floats where the wind is blowing, then it is not difficult to identify his stands which is a “vacillating stands” that ends with the winners takes all. No principles at all. That is why it is not worth to spend time to exchange with him. A time spent with him is a time lost without noticing it.

            Regards

          • Hashela

            ሰላም ኣማኒኤል

            ኑግሆ ምድሪ ብስሓቕ ቀቲልካኒ።

            “A time spent with him is a time lost without noticing it” ?
            ዕላሉ ጥዑም ማልትካ ድዩ?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ሓው ሓሸላ,

            ኣንታ ሓሸላ ኣይፋልካን:: ምስ መርገጽ ዘየብሉ ኮለል ምባልደኣ ከመይ ገይሩ’ዩ ከም ጥዑይ ዕላል ክቁጸር? ሰብ ክካታዕ ከሎ’ኮ ወይ ክርዳእ ወይ ከረድእ እኮ’ዩ:: እቲ ሽግር ዘሎ ምስዚ ሰብዚ’ኮ (1) መርገጽ የብሉን (2) ሕግታት ክትዕ ዘይፈልጥ (3) ትሚሊ ዝበሎ ዘይዝክር (4) ጸርፊ ክትዕ ዝመስሎ (5) ምንብድባድ ግርጭት ዝፈቱ (6) ነብሰ-ሙገሳ ዝፈቱ (7) ክንዲ ምሉእ ኤርትራዊ ኾይኑ ዝፍክር ሰብ ከመይ ገይርካ ኣብ ሓሳባት አትኪልካ ክትካታዕ ትኽል:: ስለዚ እየ ኸአ ምስዚ ሰብ’ዚ ተጥፍኦ ግዜኻ ከይተገንዘብካዮ ዝባኸነ ግዜ ምኻኑ ዘርኢ ዝበልኩ:: ንምኻኑ ከመይ አለኻ ብወገንካ? ምስ መዕገርገርቲ ግዜኻ ምብኻን ሓራም’ዩ::

            ምስ ሰላምታ
            አ.ሕ

          • Hashela

            ሰላም አማኒኤል

            እወ፣ ሓንቲ ካብተን ዓበይቲ ሕድገት/ውርሻ ናይ ዘበነ-ትራምፕ ነብሰ-ሙገሰ እያ።

          • Abi

            MM
            As expected, your understanding of the current situation in Ethiopia is worse than your predictions.

            Your country is in good hands as long as አቢቹ is at the helm.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            To say the list, colonel Abyi A. is not qualified to be a PM. So far. he has an F. That F could also be used for Fake.
            BTW, አቢቹ is a messenger and he seems he has hard time to follow the instruction 🙂

          • Abi

            MM
            You are not the first person proudly Undermining Colonel, Dr. Abiy Ahmed in this forum. As long as ኢሱዬ is by his side, አቢቹ will be alright.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            I could be wrong but Ethiopians do not know who colonel Abyi is. Really. He didn’t even tell you guys what he agreed with our devil, or about your GERD. He is mini isayas.

          • Barbaro A.

            Guad Abi:
            I thought you are commanding the Gonder Front?
            The Amhara Special Forces have controlled most of the STOLEN Amhara Region nearing towards Humera besides capturing hundreds of TPLF Militias!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            I’m commanding the Awate front where there is only ፉከራ and no ውርወራ::

          • Barbaro A.

            Hahaha Ayte Mod:
            “ Stick to the topic”!
            This “threatful”order to stick to the topic applies only on Hope!
            Are u scared that the TPLF Junta will be smashed and burned down to ashes for good ?
            YirdaAkum!
            Which topic?
            Pick a nick for me then?
            HOPE?
            Or Sheik Sultan?
            ( My old nick at the Catholic Missionary School coz I have a Muslim name!)

          • Selam Abi,
            It is not an appendectomy they require, but a lobectomy of the brain, in order to remove their evil and treasonous nature, deceitfulness, and backstabbing.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            Please avoid unnecessary and potentially dangerous misinformation.
            What is wrong with you today? Are you expecting yours truly and other extremely smart residents and visitors of Awatenation to believe you when you refer “brain” in relation to the Tplf thugs? What brain are talking about? No Sir. They have got no brain.
            ቦርጫቸው ሲወጠር አንጎላቸው ከደረቀ ሰነባብቷል::

          • Selam Abi,
            You are right. If terrorist tplf didn’t have the brain of a chicken, it wouldn’t have committed such a criminal act and wouldn’t have done such a stupid thing. Two days later, tplf is in a pitiful situation, that it has found itself between a rock and a hard place.

            The first chapter of the conflict, that of defending and stabilizing the situation, is already over. The federal army is now on the offensive. The looted military equipment has been destroyed by the Ethiopian air force. DT tried to scare the military with his purportedly big achievement of sneaking in and stealing. Tplf can’t escape to Sudan because the Ethiopian armed forces are already near Humera, the Sudanese army has closed the border, and the regional state of Afar has also closed the roads leading to Tigray. Soon the terrorists will be apprehended and brought to the court of law.

            Tplf committed suicide when it attacked and killed members of the federal army and the police force in cold blood when they were not expecting such things to happen inside their own country and at the hands of people supposed to be their own people. They betrayed Ethiopia and backstabbed the ethiopian people.

            This is the beginning of the end of tplf, and there would be no going back as much as the federal government is concerned without finishing off tplf once and for all.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi and Horizon,

            As I see from outside, and trying to leave emotions out.

            Question for you.

            1) How do you know the government version is the correct one? Are you relaying on the government news outlet and do you take it at face value to be true.

            2) Is it really a coincidence the PM ordered to take military action just right after the US elections? Why the PM needs to order military action without giving ultimatum? And does the PM have the power to send arms without the parliament approval?

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            The problem with you is your extreme slowness when it comes to Ethiopian past and current issues. The only time you were quick and sprinting was when congratulating the fake and illegal election conducted by the runaway thugs.
            What ultimatum are you demanding? The whipping should have happened two years ago.

            Soon peace and tranquillity will reign in Ethiopia and the neighboring countries. Unprecedented development in every aspect will follow.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You are right I am very slow. I am even slower to catch the soccer games.

            Hope you are correct and glad to hear good things will come to our region.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,
            Let me ask you the same question. How do you know the news that comes from the tplf side is the truth, as long as you doubt the ethiopian side? Tplf has been telling a lot of lies through its digital woyane, no wonder if it tells lies now. It is your right not to believe what the ethiopian government says. If it were not true, be sure tplf will be the first to shout at the top of its voice. If you are looking for evidence, try to ask from both sides, if you can get one in such a situation.

            Your second question is even more bizarre. Tplf started a war, killed dozens while they were asleep, DT himself said that they have captured all the heavy military equipment and with that tplf will target the ethiopian armed forces at any distance. And yet, you are talking about ultimatum the very moment ethiopians are killed, and you are saying if the pm has the power to defend the army, as it is being attacked by tplf who orchestrated the attack. The procedures were carried out in parliament the next day. Ethiopia was not declaring war against nobody. Simply it was defending itself from an unexpected attack.

            You are talking about formality in an emergency situation which required the decision of the pm there and then, to save the lives of ethiopian soldiers. It is weird when you ask such a question.

            Finally, why don’t you ask yourself if it is a coincidence or not that tplf took such criminal action when elections are carried out in the USA. Ethiopia was forced to respond to the actions of tplf and she was not the initiator of the war.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            Did I say I trust the news that’s coming out TPLF is correct?

            Honestly, the only information is what I heard from the PM and the commander.

            Your second question is even more bizarre. Tplf started a war, killed dozens while they were asleep, DT himself said that they have captured all the heavy military equipment and with that tplf will target the ethiopian armed forces at any distance.

            I don’t know this information. DT is that for Debresion?
            The reason I am asking is, I wonder if war was the only option. As an Eritrean, I hope our country, our government stay out and provide what ever they need to do as per humanitarian obligated to do.

            Abi is correct I am very, very slow and I should go to sleep now.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Horizon
            I just told you clearly that Tplf members and freelancers luck mental acuity.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I think you should stop with your cheap attacks, if you are not capable of answering with objectively.

            I asked because I am concerned and we (Eritreans have experience) with Isayas Afeworki and his tactics.

            He never miss to strike when it’s opportune time, when everyone else is distracted and end up paying dearly.

            We were on the same mood, when he told us, TPLF attached and killed our commanders, I was in Saudi Arabia and when I heard the Ethiopian parliament “declared war” I was taking a nap. 22 years later we are still playing in his game.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            You are the one who rushed to attack Ethiopians by endorsing the illegal elections that expedited the death of Tplf thugs. Of course, you happily and proudly expressed your unwavering solidarity with the thugs.
            You should have asked, just like what you doing now, the legality of the elections before scrambling to endorse it. Now you got the audacity to question if the PM has a right to defend the armed forces when attacked by the thugs.
            Why you are unusually sprinting to implicate Isu in the current situation is not clear for me.

            Today’s game was the most boring. Burnley was as slow as Berhe:)
            I love you too.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            If you stop making up the story it would have been better. I never endorsed thugs or otherwise but the millions of people who come out to vote.

            Off course you forgot, that I was the first who didn’t understand what is the big deal if TPLF can’t wait with the ejection for n my discussion with Samuel. At the same time, why should the federal government gets bothered by it.

            I live in a country where there is all kinds of governments and doing all kinds of elections all the time.

            I just don’t see why a killil/ state/ province in a federation needs to get approval of a federal government which has no business in its kilil business.

            So it’s helpful if you guys stop pretending as if you have a normal government that has the powers and and the responsibilities as a normal government must do. EPRDF was no different so don’t automatically assume I was endorsing their ways either.

            I had said many times the best case scenario would be to move on and try to reconcile the difference and build trust among the people.

            I implicate Isuye because we have a record. In this case:

            1) His embassy in Addis Abeba was tweeting “Game over”.
            2) His ambassador in Japan was tweeting “Game Over”

            Anyway here is what Jawar a while ago, but you guts are so blinded to see it. It happens, we went through that, and fell on everything IA fed to us.

            https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=363054468288587&_rdr

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Forget everything.
            Weekend games I chose for you
            Man U vs Everton
            Man City vs Liverpool **
            Arsenal vs Aston Villa
            Leicester City vs Wolves **
            ** My favorites to watch.
            Enjoy

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Sounds like a good plan.
            Enjoy your weekend.

            Berhe

          • sara

            selam ato abi…
            the last paragraf… first word ( BoRch) pls translate … what it means..
            as i have read that word somewhere long time ago… on old book cover title in a library back home.

          • Abi

            Sariti shikorina
            ቦርጭ = big belly
            What I said was
            As their bellies grew larger, their brains shrunk.

          • sara

            selam ato abi…
            yes… thank you. now i remember the full title of the book..
            it was a blue colored.. book… with a big bald and bellied man….
            it was titled… BorChu Gud AfeLa.. and i was always curious why they have that kind of picture on the cover… it was not attractive.
            does it sound familiar, did you read it…. if you do, i will be grateful
            if share it with us… as it i have always kept guessing what was it all about.

          • Abi

            Shikorina
            I remember only one half of one line from that book. I was a child when I read that book. I vividly remember the picture. An ugly, short, bold guy with a big belly. I’m getting old, shikorina .

            እንዴት ቢጠጣ ነው እንዴትስ ቢበላ
            something something ቦርጩ ጉድ አፈላ::

          • sara

            selam ato abi…
            thanks… for sharing what you remember….
            my friend will help with the meaning of the last paragraph in your comment.

    • Brhan

      Hello KH
      I share your prayers. Also include in your prayers the suffering of Eritreans inside Eritrea. The dictator of Eritrea is known to do his ugly doings when the world is so busy with big events ( and I believe A. Ahmed is following his steps): US elections and War in Ethiopia. He knows that Eritreans will be attracted to big dramas south of the border and the US hardly to ask, know and enquire about what is happening right now in Eritrea.

  • Selam All.
    What is happening with tplf? BBC is saying that tplf launched an attack on an army base. It tried to loot military equipments.
    The military has been ordered to carry out its mission, said the Ethiopian PM.
    Tplf has crossed the red line and force is being used to save the people and country. he added.
    Is it that Pandora’s box is opening?

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes Horizon,

      We are following the development ..It is early to talk about, Just hope for the best..
      It will be tragic…”The military has been ordered to carry out its mission,,,” Be a bit slow..Please,,Let us wait some time more…

      KS,,

      • Abi

        Kokobe
        GAME OVER!!
        Weyane is going to be buried at Mekele. Their command post hotel is already under the control of the marching federal forces.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Abo,

          It just started…”GAME OVER !!” who will won ,,,Just wait,,don’t be in hurry,,,

          KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Glad to see you actively participating. I see you are full of energy.

        • Selam Abi,

          This is the culmination of their utter stupidity, which will bring tplf’s complete demise. They will soon start calling for the world organization to save them. Only rogue elements will stand with them.
          I never expected that they would be such traitors, such a shifta group. They have chosen the way of war and they have shown it in practice. The only solution is tplf’s complete demise, because it has crossed the red line. They have chosen the way of war and destruction, which shows that they are deadly enemies with whom it is impossible to live.
          No rational group, unless it is a bunch of treasonous people will act this way by attacking the same army that is there to defend them. They are laughing at the memory of the tens of thousands of Ethiopians who paid with their lives to defend Tigray.
          I think that the die has been cast. It is tplf’s willful choice, for which tplf must take the responsibility. The people of tigray must demand the responsibility from tplf and not from anybody else. The call for peace was interpreted as cowardice, and they have betrayed Ethiopia in the worst way possible, when ethiopia is in danger of attack from egypt and trump.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            You said it all.
            Affluenza is a disease that affects one’s judgment.
            የፍየል ወጠጤ …

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ፉል ተመሲሐ
    ድሕሪኡ ደኣ
    ትኽስ ኴኑ
    ስረሐይ ረሲዐ

    ብድድ ምስበልኩስ
    ኲናት ወረ ኲናት
    ብኹሉ ኩርናዓት

    ኣብዪን ሰብኣዩን [ኢሳያስ ማለተይ’ዩ]
    ወያነ ክብሉ
    በዓል ደብረጽየን
    ውእግ ኣይመረጽናን
    የግዳስ
    ድልዋት ኢና ከስምዑ

    ዕሸላት ደቂ ኤረይ
    ብዘይጠቅም ኲናት
    ዳግማይ ክጠፍኡ

    ቁሩብ ዝሓስብ ሰብ
    ክንደይ ህልቂት ከምዝመጽእ
    ይረኣዮ ‘ዶ ‘ሎ?
    ብሰንኪ ሓደ ሰብ
    ወዲ ሃገር ክቕሎ
    ኣብ ዘይናቱ መቕሎ?

    ኣብ ዓዋተ ድማ
    ንዛረብ
    ንትንትን
    ኣብ ኤረትራ ክንደይ
    ቤት ትምህርቲ ‘ሎ
    ወይ ኣነ ግድሽ!
    ንመን ‘የ በጃኻ
    ተሓዋዊሱና ዩ ዘሎ
    ዝብሎ
    ኤህ
    ኢድካ ‘ይትስኣን ምዘሎ

    • Kokhob Selam

      Wow Handesa,

      As soon as I completed words of Dr. Debretion (president of Tigray) I found this timely poem. I enjoy it ..Keep going Handesa..

      KS,,

    • Brhan

      መሃንድስ -ምዕባለ

      ወይዛ ሰሉስ
      ትሻባሽብ ክትብል መሰስ
      ሕጂ ድማ ተኸሺና ትስለስ

      ሰብ ኣርማ ኣድጊን ሓርማዝን በሉ ወስ ወስ
      ሳዓርቲ ክበሃሉ ረቡዕየ ሓሙስ
      ገሊኦም ዓዲ ኣይውዕሉን ካብ ምክሳስ
      ዓለምና እንዶ ትሕመስ

      ነኸምዚ ዓይነት ምስምስ
      ሸውሃት ዘለዎ ኢሳያስ
      ምስ ኣቢ ኮይኑ ዶ ይትኩስ

      ኣብ ቀርኒ ኣፍሪቃ ዳግም ደም ከይፈስስ
      ዓለመይ ፈጺምኪ ኣይትሻቐሊ ብዋይት ሃውስ
      ዓይንኺ ኣብ ኩሉ ሓደራኺ ሕጂስ

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Brhan,

        What a poem…

        “ነኸምዚ ዓይነት ምስምስ
        ሸውሃት ዘለዎ ኢሳያስ
        ምስ ኣቢ ኮይኑ ዶ ይትኩስ”

        Nice..I enjoy it..

        KS,,

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam all,

    Days before the 2020 presidential election, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) says Democrats are the “party of the coastal elites.”

    During an interview with Seth Meyers, Sanders admitted that Democrats represent the interests of the nation’s billionaires who are concentrated in Washington, D.C., New York City, and Los Angeles.

    “I think it is fair to say that in many ways the Democratic Party has become a party of the coastal elites, folks who have a lot of money, upper-middle-class people who are good people, who believe in social justice in many respects,” Sanders said.

    “But I think for many, many years the Democratic Party has not paid the kind of attention to working-class needs that they should’ve,” Sanders continued. “And that has a lot to do with who funds campaigns, etc.”

    Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden’s campaign certainly fits the description mentioned by Sanders. Wall Street executives in New York City have poured more than $74 million into Biden’s campaign this election cycle.

    • David Samson

      Selam Simon,

      The Democratic party is as corrupt as the Republican. The only difference is the
      party uses the working classes as a pawn to ascend to power. Once in power, it serves the vested interest. Bernie is not a saint either—he was funded by the Gun lobbyist.

      Many of the political pundits and pollsters are reluctant to stick out their head and declare tomorrow’s winner. Most of them who were burned down four years ago seemed to have learned their lesson.

      As the saying goes “it is too close to call”.

      If Biden wins things will go back to the bad old days. We will see the same old and failed politicians. Many people(Mainly Africans) who were pinning their hopes on Biden will be disappointed as they did with Obama.

      • Abi

        David
        Arsonists 1
        Man U 0 Final score

        Biden 380
        Trump Whatever is left. Final count.

        Everyone bring your predictions.

        • David Samson

          Selam Abi,

          Unlike the pundits, you ought to be brave enough to make a prediction. Glad the circus is over, and life will go back to normal, though we are going for another full lock-down this Thursday.

          We never won against the old rivals since 2006. Until yesterday, the gunner forgot how to win games. The team seem to be organised and not licking many goals but still lack consistency.

          My predictions: the only thing I could predict is the unpredictable itself.

          • Abi

            David
            The problem that the pundits have is credibility. They don’t want to be far off from the actual number.
            Easy to call any number for a nameless, faceless ghost like me. If I got it ridiculously wrong, the worst thing might happen to me is laughed at by you and friends at Awatenation.

            I am hopeful Man U finishes mid table. I watched Milan play yesterday. Ibra looks much younger and plays much better than any of the Man U player except Wan Basaka and Fenrnando.
            Total disappointment.

            Now give me your prediction.

    • Barbaro A.

      Simon:
      As articulate and as knowledgeable you sound to be,you have GONE BANANA besides insulting the Intelligence in the name of supporting a pathological liar (Lied 18,000x in 4 yrs)and an irresponsible womanizer and Adulterer, who is well funded and surrounded by corrupt multibillionaires.

      I admire those few Democratic Billionaires, who support the poor Americans to get the minimum they deserve.

      But Simon Kale’Ab is supporting and admiring the CORRUPT guy, who :

      -Is responsible for the loss of a quarter million Americans and the infection of 10 million Americans( close to 50-100million infected Americans per Epidemiology 101if all Americans were to be tested)

      -Is trying to destroy the affordable care act aka ObamaCare, when 40 million poor Americans will lose their health insurance besides more than 100 million American will be covered fir their preexisting conditions

      -Lied more than 18,000x

      -Banned Non-European/Non-Jewish Immigrants selectively including Family Re-union and top professionals and intellectuals, who could have contributed to the economy of America as it has been the case for centuries and preferentially ( allowing and favoring immigrants from Europe and Israel( his Son-in-Law,Jared Kushner has a Lucrative Business with preferential treatment of Jews)

      -Who called Hispanics/Mexicans Rapists and Drug Curtails and selectively demanding Africans to go back to their hats and who blocked Muslims and Arabs

      -Who calmed the Black Lives Matter Movement as a Terrorist Movement

      -Who deliberately questioned Obama’s Citizenship and Birth place besides doing his best to UNDO the noble cause of Obama Legacy

      -Who trashed publicly a well credentialed Senator and VP-Elect Kamala Harris as if she were not eligible to be VP let alone to be the First Female President( which she WILL BE!, to his dismay)

      -Who has no clue about ethics and who succeeded in making the Presidency as a Family business ( Nepotism @ its best)

      -Who allegedly evaded tax and owing the Federal Govt $400 million in taxes

      -Who has remained to be Putin’s Puppet

      Of course , the Democratic Party , as we have witnessed it this season, being the inept disorganized party , which cannot relay the basic truth and facts provided to it in a Silver Plate despite the unheard of record breaking funds ….
      But the ineptness and disorganization of the Democratic Party is not close to the recklessness, divisive agenda and corruption of Trump Adm…

      • Simon Kaleab

        Hope-less,

        Done with your morning rant?

        Next, jump from the nearest tall bridge and do everyone a favour.

  • said

    Greetings
    Hi David,
    Let Ethiopian have their say about Eritrea ,there is nothing new, this the least of our concern ,we know Eritrean dire economic situation, as they say . I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it ,Voltaire is said to have responded to Rousseau. Just writing about Eritrea present situation makes me shake my head in disbelief and throws me back to a bygone age. a screwed-up country ,What you say to remaining loyalists. When we have watched IA operation up close for three -decade — and studied his actions and he does not trust others enough to leave big decisions in their hand , there is nothing new to offer to readers, at times we get something you will get nowhere else. They expose the State’s of Eritrea awful plans for us. PFDJ plans lead us to political and economic disaster. the upheaval that is presently convulsing Eritrea is in reality a new face ,a neo-Marxist revolution in progress. directly EPLF cadre directly shaped by Maoism, Bolshevik and ,Marxism ideology and indoctrination as a worldview ,many Eritrean intelligentsia, many of whom hold important posts in the media and in government. Their indoctrination to become a ignorant, to become divided and hateful, to ignore tradition, to disrespect truth and honesty, to throw aside religion , implemented over 30 years period of time. and are replaced by a collective insanity and splits the country into hostile Identity Groups, Marxist PFDJ having failed to deliver on its promises and predictions.

    What a distant it feels year 1991,it is Hard to believe . We are living in the year 2020 AD, signifying two thousand twenty years after the birth of Christ. and it chills me to see how Eritrea regressed backward . I have been writing for quite a while ,for decade or so, now that I believe , So when did all this begin? There are many possible answers to this question , My personal view is , Well, with perfect dictatorship IA, for everything which went wrong under his Presidency, which ought to be blamed on him. and the atheist and infidel Regime and their hard core supporters with limited awareness, in totalitarian state , they are in tune with their identity and affiliation with dictator IA , even when they appear to impinge on their lives. . with their ignorance, idiots the courage not to be informed, They are themselves engines of death. They are deluded—entrapped in “an Orwellian state of mind that arranges itself around convenient fictions rather than established facts.” It is all about preserving the current political system, most are blind to truth and not lightened ,with their darker nature and character , it would behoove us to take note. figure out if they are mentally ill or just stupid and naïve politically they are susceptibility to liars and demagogues. Thuggery in their DNA, lynchings in their lusts,. in the warm Eritrean air. Nothing have changed .a country in a severe economic crisis, the country has been continuously under siege.

  • David Samson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJLSbFmzHR4
    While the Asmarinos could only buy their favourite Beer using a coupon, the Addis excess riches buy young girls at auction.

  • David Samson

    Enjoy the Sing Poor African nation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXVysuvNDc

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear DS.

      Ethiopians know already this truth …I don’t know why our friend in awate.com like that Abi and Horizon are not aware of thsi truth…

      KS,,

      • Teodros Alem

        kokhob
        I know u don’t get it but why u think ermias laughing while habtamu talking.

      • Selam K.S.,

        You said, “….Abi and Horizon are not aware of this truth…”. We are aware that where there is a lot of money, especially unlawfully earned money, there is moral decadence. This happens all over the world. It is not unique to ethiopia. There are no lands of saints and that of devils. There is the land of human beings, where devils and the divine live together.
        It is up to the government to control such obscene and backward practices that will destroy the lives of naive young girls. It is not homegrown. It is imported. These are the late comers who want to live in sodom and gomorrah.
        Unfortunately, the nouveau riche at their old age want to enjoy their money before they die, young uneducated girls want to live in riches through the easy way of selling their body, and some corrupt businessmen and women are exploiting both. The girls are the biggest losers, because of the danger of STD and unwanted pregnancies that will destroy their lives.

        Don’t be surprised, wherever there is big money, one should look for crime and moral and cultural decline. Of course, this doesn’t include every rich person. That is what happens all over the world. It is not unique to the west, although the west is the forerunner. Unfortunately, it is coming to the third world as well. Tomorrow it could be in eritrea of the rich. There is no immunity as long as we are talking about human beings. No country, race, ethnic group, etc is beyond his human nature of greed, debauchery, hate, etc.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Horizon,,

          I said to you both (Abi and Horizon are not aware of this truth) I can see you will come to ask me openly… of you why not people like Teodros Alem it is because i see you like my brothers…

          :”,,There are no lands of saints and that of devils. There is the land of human beings, where devils and the divine live together…” Light and dark in short the two opposite sides are the way of 3D life and that is not acceptable as it is an illusions..It is possible to create heaven on earth.. by dismantling the opposite sides,,

          That is why I am working to to reach spirituals journey,,

          Do you know here are 250 Amhara people living in Welega killed. Just now? Those men an women were killed simply for by those narrow minded guys..

          See, now what is going on in our beloved nation? Just this Dr. Abiy is useless.

          KS,,

          • Selam K.S.,
            Let it be so, Dr. Abiy is useless. Whom do you recommend to rule ethiopia? Do you want Tplf to come back to power, and kill, torture and loot the country as it did for 3 decades?
            Is it easy to control a shifta organization like olf-shenee, which runs away when the army approaches and returns back to murder unarmed innocent men, women and children, when the army leaves? These are cowards. They may commit crimes but they will never win.
            It is not an easy thing to defeat an insurgency which is an elusive force. Look at boko haram and others. olf-shenee is a similar organization. The aim is to destabilize ethiopia. They are working hand and gloves with tplf.
            Why is that getachew reda is dispersing fake news by saying that the EU is trying to broker an agreement between tplf and the federal government, while there is doubt that such a thing has ever happened? When an organization starts lying, it shows its defeat.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Horizon,

            Why do you brought TPLF in this conversation ? They say to reform the problem as solution, He came to power softly and then you saw what he has done,,,Only to talk nice and no action, This is the only leader corrupted..and do you know he is no more legal from September 25 he is controlling by force..

            ” Let it be so ” will you repeat this phrase when the mess is coming to your nation? I don’t think so, Horizon..come to your stand please…I know you when we had been friends….I don’t expect to you to this much…what kind of stand is this?

            Let us agree now and please understand me,,,He should come and give full freedom to those in prison..and gather all to make transitional body to lead the nations till proper time..

            KS,,

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Horizon,

            Reply to me..I am waiting to read your idea..I think by now he will no more be on power..This will be his last chance…

            KS,,

          • Teodros Alem

            kokhob
            Let me tell u this, this horizon, abi, kim kind of things don’t care about or any other ethnics , all they care is about nefetegna, the nefetegna settled in arose, harere and bala, those that getting killed every month r mostly from wallo that settled in walega, benshangule, those who settled at derg times on those areas because of drought.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi TD,

            So what? If someone came during “derg times because of drought.” I am not talking about their arrival this will not justify to this crime at all..This is genocide..

            Why care about how they came to those localisations ? Aren’t they Ethiopians? if what you are saying is true, that a long time since Derg was gone..see, now that is not the problem..aren’t they human beings? I don’t see any case to support your sayings above TD…

            KS,,

          • Teodros Alem

            Kokhob
            abi, horizon, kim , addisu legese kind of thing don’t care and i told u the reason.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam TD,

            Let them say it now..They are not replying to me so far..If this the reason why am I caring an spending my golden time..I will forget them..But, that Horizon special to me if not I will ignore him.. I will never care about him no more..

            “abi, horizon, kim , addisu legese” let them come and say it to us..then we all will see what to respond..

            KS,,

          • Teodros Alem

            kokhob
            U expecting them to say, we don’t care about other ethiopians but to nefetegna and nefetegna legacy? They will never say it, they r not “yewah” like u.
            Professor endras eshete too one of pro- tplf and architecture of the system along tplf/meles.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam TD,

            Most probably your are right…I was watching now the Eng.Yelgal Getnet talking deeply about similar subject very interesting..Trust me I was not aware of the subject at all.. Sorry my dear..I am watching while I am typing to you now,,Let me hear it is still part one,,,Now only I got the idea,,But I am not convinced still..There is a big point from my side that those Amhara Human beings..I am spiritually advancing and that will win every subject as this world is only temporary..Politics in very low space and we spiritual men are watching it from high space,,,,

            Let us come the week end and I will attach what I am watching now…

            Wishing you long life….

            Your brother

            KS,,

          • Teodros Alem

            kokhob
            ” saw tera belut erasu metta” yelekal ? U wasting my time.

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I got something to talk about.
            Giants are playing Buccaneers. It is Monday Night Football.
            ብቻህን ስታወራ ሳይህ ኮኮብዬን ምን ነካብኝ ብዬ ልቤ ተረበሸ:: ውስጥህ ሰላም ነው?

          • Teodros Alem

            tella
            I was telling him, u guys don’t care about the people of ethiopia other than nefetegna , their legacy and the NAME ethiopia, just the name.
            adamet’ zzzz kemaleteh befit.

          • Dear K.S.,
            I stopped the discussion not for any other reason, but because i thought that there was nothing more to say, and if we continue we will be repeating the same thing. We have differences of opinion on Abiy and tplf. That is normal, because everybody has his/her own personal opinion. We are all human beings, thinking human beings for that.

            Have you listened to Dr. DT’s message? It was not the known መደንፋትና ዘራፍ ዘራፍ. He is talking about peace and negotiations. He is saying that Abiy and IA are plotting against him. He was also demanding that his Trojan horses, the extremists jawar, bekele g. and others, should be released from prison. He was not saying a similar thing when his organization kept tens of thousands behind bars or forced them to leave their country. Today, he is talking about freedom, democracy, human rights which he ignored completely when he was in power at the center.
            DT seems worried, because the fed. gov. has put on alert the armed forces. He was saying that the military should not turn its weapon on tigray, which of course depends entirely on his own behaviour. Otherwise, the Ethiopian military defends tigray as it defends any other region state of Ethiopia. It has no reason to attack whatsoever.
            To cut a tree you should remove the branches first to control damage to the surrounding and to have a clean fall. The government is trimming off tplf’s political and economic power, and it seems that its over-inflated ego will soon deflate. Do you think that tplf is finding itself between a rock and a hard place?

            The horrendous crime against the Amara ethnic group shows the savagery of the perpetrators. Those who stand with them in one way or otherwise are equally criminals. It is the result of the poisonous identity politics implemented in Ethiopia by tplf, for which tplf is fighting tooth and nail to keep it in place against the safety and security of ethiopian citizens.

            Finally, you have every right to blame Abiy for what is happening in Ethiopia the last two years, but these things do not happen by themselves. Every finger points at tplf and its accomplices, olf-shenee and all the other extremists. Even then, it is not possible to bring back tplf’s reign of terror.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Harizon,

            Don’t blame TPLF for everything going wrong..It is the Amhara are to be blamed. Genocide those days are blank Amhara problem. If those victims are from Amhara and it is totally the responsibility of the government to save them,,,Now, Teodros was replying to me instead of you he said”abi, horizon, kim , addisu legese kind of thing don’t care and i told u the reason.” look bellow the conversation between me and Teodros…

            Look Horizon –all problems are to be seen first within. Everything is the within and we should see first our house if we want to solve. Blaming outside is not going to help us …and as all say it let us see what is within,,,It is like PFDJ case giving every problem to TPLF…

            We should not stop until we convince each other. I don’t have any problem with you..In fact i am against TPLF of when they join with EPLF and fight against my front when I was young. I cannot forget what they have done to us the dark times..But in fact I should forgive them all…I have no more fixed stand on this politics if you notice.. I completely convinced on this spiritual journey..

            KS,,

          • Dear K.S.,
            More or less you are saying that the victim and the victimizers are the same people, and the government is responsible for everything that happened. Those who kill them, loot their properties, and burn their homes may not be responsible, because the unfortunate amharas found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. The solution may as well be to leave all the regional states where they live, and go back to amhara state. But, that is not possible.
            The government should put a policeman for every amhara who lives outside his/her state, because there are brainwashed people by tplf such as some oromo killers? What about the right to live anywhere in the country despite one’s language and culture?
            Ethnic federation was the brainchild of tplf. Ethiopians had no problem living anywhere they liked before tplf came to the scene and began to demonize and dehumanize amharas with some extremists from the oromo ethnic group, especially olf. Amharas are killed because of their ethnicity and not because of what they did themselves. Most of the time they assimilated themselves with the local population and they lived in peace.
            Who is within and who is without, when it concerns the same country, its peoples and tplf that ruled with an iron fist for three decades? What we see today in ethiopia is the poisonous legacy of tplf, and you say that it has nothing to do with things happening in ethiopia, when at the same time it is undermining the government and destabilizing the country? No, tplf is within.
            Finally, if tplf betrayed your organization, elf, then, who could guarantee that they are not going to repeat the same thing today to anybody else provided their interest is served?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Horizon,

            See, now you are disappointed,,Again and again all problems are done by TPLF is not good logic..Those problems were not there during Derg years and even EPRDF 27 years..where fully governed by 4 parties,,,Now no one is talking about those 3 parties who were formed the EPRDF but only TPLF is mentioned.. why is that? Dr.Abiy was also part of the EPRDF but only messenger…

            See, now what complicated situation gone through,,, This is the chance to expose that ugly Dr.Abiy…He was working as agent for the ruling party..Hide inside the party working to be king the 7th of Ethiopia and when EPRDF went totally broken he thought he will reform all those leaders…which he fails ….He the open to all world the entire Ethiopia to outsiders which he opened also to the secret society this for another day..All what is seen in side is all his secret job and will be exposed..

            Now, what I am saying is that the problem is not from outside forces.. Search within and you will find it…When TPLF and EPLF were united against my party we all fighters disused and try to solve our internal problems..was late and we couldn’t do the solution….We found out it was totally internal problem..our leaders and management was not correct.but then it is too late to bring back those years…and now you watch us we are not controlling the nation..May we could think, from the start and solve all the shortages day to day..Sure we could manage our nation today..we were not able to manage the struggle…EPLF is controlling my country TPLF was controlling Ethiopia as nation…

            Those fronts were very smart groups and now Ethiopia united with EPLF against TPLF…which they will not won at all..TPLF is working within but EPLF and Dr.Abiy is not interested in solving internal conflicts..

            See, the principle and tactic are important in such type of struggle..The more harmonized..near to successes…

            KS,,

          • Selam K.S.,
            Let’s leave it here and wait for what the future holds in store for the whole region. Ethiopia will hold elections until June 2021. Tplf will not participate as it says unless it is forced to change its mind. It will have no seats in parliament. Nobody knows if it is going to be replaced by another tigrayan party that may gain enough votes from tigrayans who live outside the state of tigray to be able to enter parliament, etc. Let’s wait and see the region ten months from now.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Horizon,

            “Let’s leave …”

            If they aren’t going for war , then only will see what the future holds.. I am holding my breath till something changes. Really, do you think this region will wait till then? I don’t know.. I think before that time something will happen…What if our revolutionary politicians do something…Let’s wait and see…

            KS,,

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kokhob Selam,

            I tried to read more about the killings of these poor Amhrara peasants in Wollega.
            We are seeing more and more of these types of killings in many parts of Ethiopia. It really started after the downfall of Derg. Part of it is the result of demonizing an ethnic group.

            I read somewhere that these residents and peasants were pleading with the Fed. soldiers not to leave. That is heartbreaking , if true.

            I think it is about time that people of goodwill and knowledge must support these helpless people to at least defend themselves. All these communities who feel threatened must be supported and armed to defend themselves or deter these kinds of attacks.

            Dear Kokhob Selam, thanks for bringing it here. You are a decent human being.
            I can’t sit here and blame Dr. Aby for the atrocities. For all I know it might be occurring to undermine the PM and his administration in the eyes of the people. It is never clear.

            Mr. K.H

          • Saleh Johar

            Kim,
            Such atrocities should have been expected and avoided. The death of innocent civilians cannot be explained out on partisan basis. There is no zigzagging around it It happened under the watch of a government and it is responsible for not proteins the victims. Trying to apportion blame trivializes the killings. That’s is the work of politicians and party hacks. For observers, it is clear. The government and the prime minister are responsible for not protecting lives. Until when can this be explained out cleverly to absolve rulers?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Saleh Johar,

            I am not a political hack or trivializing the killings, as you put it. You probably know or have a little more information than I do about this specific atrocity. If you do please inform us, it is your business, after all. Otherwise, you are attempting to project from your own political position.

            Again the only way to protect people against atrocities of this elk is to arm the poor peasants to protect themselves. I hope good people of intelligence and goodwill with capacity act on it.
            The rest of us, lost for good immigrants and refugees in time and space, with skimpy information pontificating about governments, politics and/or agendas cannot be believed.

            Mr. K. H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            I remember very well when the tplf government was forced to say at one point that it was impossible for it to protect tigrayans who live dispersed all over the country. Most probably, there is no town or village in oromia or southern regional state, where amharas do not live, due to the fact that they moved to these regions for different reasons a long time ago.

            It is easy to point a finger. The reality is that when the regional police and the so called liyu police, which have shown repeatedly that they are a partisan force of the ethnic group they belong to, it is impossible to protect minorities. These forces were either looking the other way or participating, handing over to the criminals their service weapons and they themselves were committing the crime, as we so in the killings that took place after the murder of the oromo singer. Hence, many of their members were put behind bars.

            Arming the amhara ethnic groups who live in oromia or anywhere else outside the amhara state, i believe, is not advisable, because it will create more problems than a solution. The job should be left to the federal and regional forces. If there is the will to protect minorities, even the local population and the regional forces are capable of controlling the situation. The regional government is well armed to do the job.

            You see, the old bureaucracy is still intact in its place and it stands for the old system. That is why it became necessary to send to prison regional state officials who cooperated with criminals in killing members of the amhara ethnic group or those oromos who tried to help.

          • Teodros Alem

            horizon
            Would u.pls stop ur None sense? Me too remember when u say. ethnic federalism is the only way for ethiopia and supporting tplf.
            In most cases tigraians too displaced and killed by gov organized groups, the government was behind it and some unaware people participate in it but the active participant were the gov cadres and militias.
            People know eprdf/prosperity drama, starting from “hawzen” all the way to this days r the same game.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,

            I have no arguments against your statement. It is so hard to read about these people who sometimes were relocated by force to these places and find their kids and grand kids facing such atrocities due to their ethnicity.
            I believe Derg moved people from Wello and Tigray to various places to only end up being targeted by cruel political operatives at different times. (easy targets)

            My friend Amanuel Hidrat suggested that I was trying to distribute blame for this kind of evil behavior. Of course I am. A certain sliver of it goes as far back to ELF and EPLF who tarred and feathered the Amhara ethnic group as a whole as being the evil oppressors throughout their struggle. It makes it easy to justify the genocidal behavior of the modern shiftas.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            You could distribute blames of specific period to specific leaders of that era , but you couldn’t distribute blames of specific era to the leaders of different era. This is simple logical truth.

            Regard

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Kim,
            Sometimes it is prudent to say what you are sure of. For instance, you accuse me together with a group as having tarnished the Amhara. I am sure you have no proof of that but propaganda that has sipped into your perception. I never seen a sanctioned anti-Amhara transgression as you make it sound. Here is the evidence as I know it first hand:
            1-the ideology that the Eritrean organization followed was all from the “progressive camp” of the time. And racism and ethnic terminologies were considered reactionary. We didn’t do it
            2-if tha was the case, the EPRP which was mostly an Amhara majority organization wouldn’t have felt at home with us.
            3-we believed our enemies were imperialism, Zionism and feudalism—we were a product of our time I am not condoning or incriminating the ideology, it’s just to give you a context.
            4-we hated Haile Selassie and his regime (I don’t want to bore you with the reasons here) and we identified his regime as enemy #1– just like all Ethiopian freedom fighters (again, this is solely to give you context)
            5- all our literature included the struggle for the emancipation of “the Ethiopian and Eritrean” oppressed peoples
            6- yiu will not find a single paper that attack people based on ethnicity or race, never. If the world was fair, this fact should have been clear to everyone.
            7- just like we are suffering in round 2 of our struggle, any criticism or opposition to the PFDJ is misconstrued to make it look like it’s anti-Eritrea. In round 1, our struggle was misconstrued to look like it was against Ethiopians. Both are far from the truth.
            8- personally I have stated many, many times that I was never oppressed by any farmer from Shia or menzie or any other place. We were, and I am, very clear who my oppressor was. Pls don’t insult us based on your little biased knowledge about the issue

            8- am I absolving the few who were and are racists, fascists and ethni centric groups from this? Not at all but you cannot define us by the fringe among us. If that is the case, I can define you with worse attributes. But that is no my nature.

            I hope you contemplate and correct your perception. What you are carrying is too heavy a load. And let’s not turn the sad massacre of innocent people a day or two ago into something ugly. Let’s have respect for the victims of ethnic centric madness. Peace out

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I agree with you 100%.
            Abiy failed miserably in protecting the people. He is the only one responsible for this huge failure. He should use everything in his disposal to protect the people.
            He is busy gathering coffee beans.

          • Teodros Alem

            tella
            We all know why u say what u said.
            but can u answer this while thinking ur mother tella house?
            why because of ur fathers crime, the other amaras pay the price? Those who don’t have anything to do with ur crime, why?

          • Brhan

            Hello Teodros,

            I think you agree with me that this is not only an Ethiopian aspect.
            And it is better to see the aspect in its global setting because. Comparative approach helps to learn and know solutions from others.

            It is global aspect. South Africa, Rwanda, Australia, US , the Belgium and etc. In all these countries we saw that the past was ugly and today’s generation has dealt with it with civility. By truth, reconcilation and apologies and not by killings, these countries are closing their ugly past . In the US people including whites are distancing from their grandfathers who did terrible things to blacks and aboriginal people. You might have heard that they are dismantling statues in the US, Canada, Belgium and the UK.

            The Amhara of today are not responsible for things done by their grandfathers. I believe Ethiopians need truth and reconcilation. The truth is that all to admit that the past was not rosy. This will help for peace and avoid the mistakes to happen again.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi,

            As you are knowledgeable of scriptures, the belief of many oppositionss in our region looks like this, with a little twist: “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of TPLF” 😏 ወይ ዘንድሮ 😏

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ወይ ዘንድሮ ጥራይልካ!

            ከውሃው ብጠጋ ባህሩ ነጠፈ
            ከዛፉ ብጠጋ ቅጠሉ ረገፈ
            እንደምንም ብሎ ይሄ ቀን ባለፈ
            ( ኤፍሬም ታምሩ — ወይ ዘንድሮ)

            Please listen to this amazing song.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saleh,

            Even the relatively honest Kim want the apportionment of responsibilities of the current civil unrest and killing to include the ex-prime ministers. The current government of Abiy Ahmed is responsible for failing to protect the civilians. The Ex-prime ministers are only responsible to what it has happened under their watch. Unfortunately, Everythig Abiy is doing since he came to the helm of power is to hunt oppositions in order to secure his power even by allying with foreign forces. To protect civilians is secondary to him. He knows the killing is happening against other ethnics in his own state or Kilil. He has neither the capacity to calm the civil unrest and the killing nor does he know how to run a government of multicultural society. If the tutoring he gets from Issayas continues successfully he will ignite a war against one state of the union. Imagine if a war is ignited while the ethnics are at each other’s throat, they will go back to the era if princesses. God save Ethiopia from the clouds of war hovering over the nation.

            Regards

          • Teodros Alem

            kokhob
            Most probably those people r killed by the government, they have been killed for about 30 years. As u can see the government and other pretending opposition are doing a lot of PR and showing the amharas are helpless and showing the amharas r crying like a little kids, if u follow the government PR style the last 30 years , it means by the name of protecting this poor people , the government is about to implement new agenda.
            This kim, abi, horizon kind of things knows about it, they r t part of the conspiracy.
            And believe me u will see and hear different kind of killing in different forms and places in a few weeks.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ኣብ ሃገርና
    ካላሽን በዚሑ
    ምክእኣል ውሒዱ

    የእዛና ጸሚሙ
    ኣፍና ግን በሊሑ
    ሓደ ክዛረብ ደልዩ
    ሰማዒ ግን ስኢኑ

    ውሑዳት ዝሓስቡ
    ዝበዝሑ ዊስኮም ዝዓትሩ
    ከበሮ-ሃባ ኢሎም ዝዕንድሩ
    ወጋሕ-ትበል ለይቲ ዝዝምሩ

    ለይቲ ናይ ጽጉማት
    ምውጋሕ ኣብያ
    ትድገም ኣላ መስለኒ
    ዳስ ዓዲ-ሓውያ
    ኣይግበሮ

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ፡

    ኣብ መስከረም መስፍን ብመስፍን ተለዊጡ

    ሓደ መስፍን ንነዊሕ ዝጸናሐ ተዓቢጡ
    ሓደ ምዓልቲ ከደልኩም ብጾቱ ረጥሪጡ
    ሃንደበት በለና፡ ተመሊሱ ተመያይጡ
    ይመስል ነበረ ዝተቐጽዐ ተቖርጢጡ
    ቀደም ዘይሓሰባ ዕንጉለ ውሒጡ
    በለ ጸላኢና ሓደ እዩ፡ ብዕሊ ኣፍሊጡ

    ማና መጸ በልና ሰማይ በሪሁ ተለዊጡ
    ተቓላሳይ ተቐበሎ ስክፍታኡ ውሒጡ
    ምርሓና በለ፡ ኣብ ተለቢዥን ብሥርዓት ተመያይጡ

    ድሕሪ’ኣ ኸ? ድሕሪኣ ጎሽ!

    እሞ ናበይ ድኣ ኣበለ! እንድዒ መን ፈሊጡ!
    ካይከውን መስፍን-ሓ ብስ-መስፍን ተለዊጡ

    ኣብ መሕተት ይቐርብ እንሆ ዓይኑ ኣፋጢጡ
    ጸረ-ኤርትራ ዕላማኡ ካብ ቀደም ኣብዒጡ
    ናይ ካልኦት ይዛረብ ናይ ጉጅለኡ ዓመጽ ጸቒጡ
    ካብ ኤርትራ ዓርሱ ካየልዓለ፡ ይብል ዓዱ ብኤሱ ተጎቢጡ

    ወይ ጉድ፡ ዘመን መጸና፡ ተደፊኤ ዝብል እንከሎ ሓንፊጡ

  • Germay Berhane

    The never do people will continue to live by defaming to those who sacrifice they life, knowlage to thier people. People like Saleh who claim themself natural JEBHA, JEbhaji they never contribute somthing to the organization they claim. They were the first to cross the border to Sudan when thousands were flooding to field. After more than fourty years they are keeping talking and spreading venemous words to divide our people. Please grow up, come and do your contribition to your people.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    መዓልካ መሃንዘል
    ዓዲመካ ኣብቲ ጸበል
    ቅልቅል ኣይበልካን ተሻቒለ
    መሃንዘል ደኣ
    ኣበይ ጠፊኡ ‘ለ

    ሓቅኻ ኣባ ጥረግ
    ኣብዛ ገዛ ካብ ዝዕሸግ
    ኣዋርሕ ቆጺረ
    ደሓር ከኣ
    ብጉዳይ ኣንበጣ ተሻቒለ

    ናይ ኣንበጣ ሓዲካ ተዛረብ
    ኣንበጣ
    ኣይክሰግራን ‘ዩ ነዛ መረብ

    ከምዘይበሉና
    እነሀልካ ሰጊሩስ
    ከፍልሶ ጀሚሩ የእካልና
    ‘ንታይ ከምንኸውን
    እንድዕልና
    ዕድልና ድዩስ ሕምቀትና
    ኣንበጣ ህግደፍ ከይኣኽለና
    ሕጅ ድማ
    ነፋሪ ኣንበጣ ሰዲዱልና?

    • Kokhob Selam

      Wow, Handesa,

      “ናይ ኣንበጣ ሓዲካ ተዛረብ
      ኣንበጣ
      ኣይክሰግራን ‘ዩ ነዛ መረብ”

      KS,,

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awate nation,

    The crises group has suggested a solution to the dangerous standoff between the Federal government of Ethiopia and the northern Tigray state (kilil). One hopes the proposal to find a listening ears from both sides to defuse the tensions. Enjoy reading the clip and have a say to it.

    https://www.crisisgroup.org/africa/horn-africa/ethiopia/b162-steering-ethiopias-tigray-crisis-away-conflict

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Pro. Aman,

      I totally hope.. Wish to see the end of this crises..And the the help of our Eritrean people recorded in the case of -Locusts are the swarming…Now the swarm is heading to our nations..

      KS,,

    • Brhan

      Thanks Prof. A. Hidrat

      It is a well written article. Crisis group initative is much appreciated. And I believe there are local initatives who started efforts to bring the two to an agreement but their effort has not been made public like the one we have from Crisis group.
      And, both sides have not giving any formal acknowledgement to the intiative of
      Crisis group. It seems they are prefering to show whose fist is stronger.

      Last but not least the IA factor. I had, from the begining, the idea of PMAA doing a proxy war against TPLF using IA. The TPLF, also plays this card using some of the opposition. Both PMAA and TPLF do not care about Eritrea. And in politics this is normal. Every one looks his/her interest. So does IA and the opposition.

      • Abi

        Brhan
        ወይአነ መደበኛው ሰዓት አልቆ በባከነ ሰዓት ነው ጎል ለማግባት የሚታገለው::
        አቢይ 5
        ወይአነ 0 final score/ game over
        ወይአነ በሜዳው ነጥብ ከጣለ ብዙ ወራቶች አስቆጥሯል::

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear ABO,

          “game over ” To whom my dear..? we will see..Ha Ha TPLF is great and I think both dictators will fail… .

          KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            ኮከብዬ ወያኔ ምን ሆነ መሰለህ ?
            ወጣ ወጣና እንደ ሸንበቆ
            ተንከባለለ እንደ ሙቀጫ

            “ቤት ሰበረ” ግጥም ታውቃለህ?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            “ወጣ ወጣና እንደ ሸንበቆ
            ተንከባለለ እንደ ሙቀጫ”

            EPRP had this title in 1976..I read it for the first time..Ha..Ha..I think we all will witness the…

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            እንደው ቡናውስ ይቅር ወጉን ረስተኸዋል:: ምናል ዘፈን ብትዘፍንልን?

            እሹሩሩ መውደድ እሹሩሩ ፍቅር
            እኔ እሻልሃለሁ አንተ ልጅ አትቅር
            መውደዱ ቤተኛ ናፍቆቱ እንግዳ ነው
            ተመላላሽ ሆኖ ያቃተኝ ፍቅሩ ነው
            ዘንድሮ ባሰብኝ በኔ ብሶ ፍቅሩ
            ማባበል ይዣለሁ እያልኩ እሹሩሩ
            (አስቱ ነፍሴ)

        • Brhan

          Abi,
          Is this semi-final game?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            TPLF knocked out of the game in the group stages. The game took place at አዋሳ stadium.
            You have not been paying attention.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Well in soccer you lose today and win tomorrow.
            You have not been watching soccer ever?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I agree. TPLF lost today. In the future election they can come back and compete again.
            Now that is what I call democracy.
            Man U is Playing Arsenal this weekend. Don’t miss it.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            “In the future …they can come back and competer again”
            Then game is not ever.
            Thanks for the Man U vs Arsenal match info. In the mean time I envite you this from the legendary Mahmoud Ahmed:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Vun-4DqfA

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Thanks for the music.
            ምርጥ የደርግ ዘመን ዘፈን ነው:)
            Yes, the game is over.
            Come back next season.

          • Brhan

            Abi you are welcome,
            Cut it clear: One time you say, ” do not make attention to them” at other time you “invite them to play the next season”. Unless you make your decision about this soccer club , the game is still not over.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            The game is over! You don’t need to pay attention for the losing team at this moment. They can recruit younger and better players, train harder, organized …get back in the game next season.
            ለጊዜው ዋንጫው ተበልቷል::
            ለወደፊቱ መዘጋጀት ይበጃል ለማለት ነው::

          • Brhan

            Abi
            But you are speaking about the same players:
            You say :
            a) ድርድር አያስፈልግም
            and you contradict your self by saying:
            b)in the future they can come back and compete.
            Make up your mind!
            Which one?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            The current game is over. We don’t negotiate on a done deal.
            Get ready for the upcoming season.
            Same team, a slightly modified team, a heavily modified team, or a total new team…
            Just bring your “A” team in ring and fight it out in the open.
            Why is it complicated for you to understand a simple concept.
            በተበላ ዋንጫ ከመጨቃጨቅ ለመጪው ውድድር መዘጋጀት ይበጃል::

          • Barbaro A

            Abinet:
            Pay rather ATTENTION to Mr Mehari Yohanes, The Secretary General of “ Independent Tigrai Party”:
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45ebe24362981773972cf3c952dee835015651be5335f6091eeef6be7ec920e7.png

        • Selam Abi,
          What does tplf plan to achieve by warmongering? It has turned back humiliated everybody who approached it to help stop the confrontation with the federal government. If its plan is to destabilise the country, it may succeed, but at a grave price to the people of tigray and all the rest. If it is working for Egypt, it will alleniated the people of tigray from the rest of Ethiopians, which may not know the difference between the two.
          There is no chance whatsoever that tplf will rule Ethiopia again. If it can’t control its madness, and wants to destroy and get destroyed, it will be a big drama for the whole region.
          If the possibility of a mutual destruction doesn’t put some logic into their brains, it shows how much they are arrogant, ignorant, obsessed and addicted to power.
          What i see happening from the tplf side is the so-called, the triumph of stupidity.
          A transitional government in which groups that are not represented in parliament are going to participate is a plan to ascend to power through the backdoor in company with extremist elements such as jawar and others. I don’t think that the federal government will allow that to happen, and the problem with Egypt can’t be the reason that will force the government to succumb to tplf’s blackmail.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            ባንኩንና ታንኩን አስረክበው ከፈረጠጡ ጋር ድርድር አያስፈልግም::
            Why pay attention to them? Better to ignore them. Soon the people of Tigray will kick them out of their holes.

          • Barbaro A

            Abisha:
            U will love this- by a certain ” Nuclear”(Consult Samuel or Fanti).
            http://disq.us/p/2cpriuq

          • Barbaro A

            Ato Abnet:
            Have you visited this?
            https://youtu.be/oqTHMW6XqB8

        • Barbaro A

          Tefedel Ya Abisha:
          https://youtu.be/uCUMytTaR-Y.
          Trump Vs Biden Score?
          Trump White House is preparing a big Tuesday Night Party….2016 repeating….
          Simon KaleAb is smiling.
          Hope NOT.

  • abdu

    Salam Moderator
    I reply to Simon regarding discrimination in Eritrean education and its pending under spam any idea.
    thanks
    abdu

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ስለምንታይ ደኺኻ?
    ደቀይ ክብል
    ስለምንታይ ደንቊርካ?
    ንኸይምዕብል

    ሓሳስያ ይገብረለይ
    ሃብቲ
    ዋላ ትምህርቲ
    ኣነ ዝፈቱ ብዘይ ሞርገጅ
    ብዘይ ትዊሽን
    ክሰፍር ኣብ ባዓቲ
    ሆም-ዎርክ ዘይብላ
    ዋላ ሓንቲ

    ጓጉድ ጸባይ ክግስሞ
    ኣብ ሃዘሞ
    ኣብ ኣሮሞ
    ኣብ ሩባ ሰመሞ
    ጻዕዳ ጀዲደይ ክጉምጎሞ
    ማይ ዘይጠዓሞ
    ህግደፍ ከሎ
    ኣበይ’ሞ
    ብላሽ

    • Brhan

      MM ግጥሚ ገረጊራ’ላ ሎምቅነ!! ኣብሽር!!

  • Saleh Johar

    Horizon,
    Yes, all of that has to be reconciled and not used as a partisan slogan. All I am saying is that I am an eyewitness but I don’t know about you. Can we respect each other, at least on the emotional side by practicing decency? That’s all I am asking for, not a tribunal.

  • said

    Greeting
    (Prophet’s Birthday is Celebrated on the Basis of the Lunar, Hijra Year) 12th day of the Islamic month of Rabi’ al-awwal, approximately 570 CE also known as the “Year of the Elephant” in the Arabian city of Makkah was when God decided to send down to earth a “Mercy to Humanity.
    Today Thursday, October 29, 2020 birthday of Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), that’s widely celebrated in Eritrea and the entire Moslem world. Monotheism was not a new idea that he introduced. Dubbed as the most influential personality in history by Time Magazine in a sondage compiled years ago, freedom, justice, equality, and human rights are the goals of all nation and the quest for dignity for every human being and every creation . This was generally the stance of all Prophets and ethos. Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), adored and revered by hundreds of millions of Muslims, remains nearly totally unknown to so many billions of the Earth’s inhabitants. However, on the contrary, Prophet Mohammad is often maligned and vilified in negative stereotypes by many in the Western culture, by sheer ignorance and in most simplistic terms, often as part of a premeditated campaign to discredit Islam as a competing religion and Muslims as adherents of that faith. He preached to empower every human to live a dignified life regardless of the status at birth. our Prophet (PBUH) came as Divine Messenger to Arab people during a period that is famously known as the period of Jahiliyyah (ignorance). The people in Arabia were living a barbaric life and very difficult for the Prophet (PBUH) to reform and educate these ignorant people. He taught them about the potential consequences of their wrongdoing, about their ignorance and unwillingness to learn and get enlightened
    (CAVEAT: Important to note that I am a Freethinker who is now immune to dogmas and uncritically scrutinized historic and religious narratives; however, nevertheless, I still admire the exceptional force of character of historic figures who impacted profoundly human lives and human thought in ways best left to the better judgment of better learned History Scholars and Specialized Analysts). Tomorrow marks the 1444 years birthday of Prophet Mohammad that’s widely celebrated in the entire Moslem world. Dubbed as the most influential personality in history by Time Magazine in a sondage compiled years ago, Prophet Mohammad, adored and revered by hundreds of millions of Muslims, remains nearly totally unknown to so many billions of the Earth’s inhabitants. However, on the contrary, Prophet Mohammad is often maligned and vilified in negative stereotypes by many in the Western culture, by sheer ignorance and in most simplistic terms, often as part of premeditated campaign to discredit Islam as a competing religion and Muslims as adherents of that faith.

    Extremist Fundamentalists and blind ritualists of all walks, Moslems and adherents of other faiths, are hooked on the sham appearances of religions much in the tradition of extensions to tribal loyalties and rivalries, missing in the fervor of their blind allegiances the deeper spiritual meanings and intentions of the message and the messenger. As most people an inquisitive thinker standing on, and exposed through extensive readings and universal human interactions to all sorts of human intellectual and philosophical endeavors as embodied in observance of rites and conduct by billions of the Earth’s inhabitants, it finally dawned on me at the twilight of age the secrets of the greatness of Prophet Mohammad and the deserving high reverence reserved to the man by followers of the Islamic Faith, learned universalists and humanists of all walks of human thought. The wisdom gained through the accretion of the time, as we all get aging, to all those who are open mind who are especially keen inquisitive observers – especially with the chance of wandering in the labyrinth of universal human thought of the very early classics in recorded history and through real life testing experiences – finally, for those most recently, graduated to the level of knowledge and wisdom to LOVE passionately Prophet Mohammad the person; the universal philosopher with deeply gained insight to human’s nature and group dynamics; the setter of high human values; the practicing practitioner, rare as is in human’s annals, in translating words professed in the greatest of laconic eloquence into deeds tested and normalized. Prophet Mohammad (SAWS), of the rituals, the routine and obligation muttering of mantras, remained in the depth of many Muslim consciousness and human feelings and connected for the beginning . ND abreast of nearly all the Prophet’s traditions; the longest ever observed or recorded of any living mortal sage in history. It is only through the benefit of older age; an intensely intellectually curious mind; extremely wide exposure to myriad societies, social mores, and great sages and philosophers doctrines and thoughts; all along the tests of time related by an independent and detached neutrality that I came to experience the reality of Prophet Mohammed(SAWS), on the plateaus of absolute wisdom and meticulous application in actions of the professed, that many in time they finally internalized the Love and Reverence of Mohammed as the greatest sage ever existed., this deep realization, as in the past passionate experiences of the deep passions reserved for true blivers make live deep Love and Passion of Mohammad (SAWS), through all his tested professes, exemplary model conduct, universal mind, deep knowledge of human nature, a soul mate who while accords perfectly and most harmoniously with one’s idiosyncrasy and deeper psyche, he stretches the transcendent notions of hope and redeeming ultimate and absolute love for Prophet Mohammed(SAWS), .many panationatlt love Prophet Mohammad with the very depth of their faculties and not necessarily through the mechanical attached rituals and mutterings of obligation daily routine mantras not devoid of emotional and personal connections. One must be living the Prophet Mohammad(SAWS), in the tradition of loving all proponents of social justice and equity to all God’s vice-gerents on the Earth planet; in the tradition of all the sages who strove to uphold the dignity of man by first and most liberating the soul from the captivity to the whims and dominance of fallible mortals. The love of Muslim of Prophet Mohammad(SAWS), as it is first and unique to ever most comprehensively entail all the realities of life and individual human’ urges and proclivities in his person as articulated in word and examples to emulate. Prophet Mohammad(SAWS), Mohammad entailed aspirations for an enlightened virtuous and Jesus’ message of Universal Love and Tolerance, however, all with setting the practical example through doing to bring to a living reality what truly meant to advance in practice human thought and aspirations to attainment of the higher plateaus of spiritual liberation. As I revere Prophet Mohammad(SAWS),first Mohammad (SAWS),the prophet of god sent to mankind , he precedes all beliefs and injunctions of creed and faith. Setting the examples over most arduous testing 23 years of closely observed conduct, Mohammad lived the reality of what he professed and taught. The example for mankind, the messenger, rendered the message for real.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam Awate
    Happy Mawlid Al Nabi

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ክልተ ዓይኒ ሂቡ
    ሓንቲ ልቢ
    ክልተ እግሪ ዓዲሉ
    ሓደ ርእሲ
    ክልተ እዝኒ
    ምስ ሓንቲ ኣፍንጫ
    ክልተ ፍረ ነብሲ
    ሓደ መቐመጫ

    ዓሰርተ ኣጻብዕቲ
    ሚልዮናት ጨጉሪ ርእሲ
    ሓደ ህግደፍ
    ዚሮ መተንፈሲ
    ደቁ ንቓልሲ ልኢኹ
    ዓመጽ ሓፋሲ
    ስጋብ ሕጂ ዘይጠጠዐት
    ቅድሚ ሳላሳ ዓመት
    ዝተኸላ ፈልሲ

    እምኒ መሲልዎ ረጊጹ ጻዕዳ ዓፍራ
    ዘይእሙን ልኢኹ
    ኣትዩ ኣብ ክሳራ
    ኣብ ዘይወጾ መከራ
    ኤእ!
    ኣቐዲምካ ምሕሳብ ‘ያ ኔራ
    ወይ ክሓስም ናይ ህግደፍ
    ድጉል ሽጣራ

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሳልሕ፡

    Letter from Macaw Parrot

    ወይ ኣነ ሕንጻይ ኣነ
    ተምሳል ደገምቲ ኮይነ
    ተቖጺረ ከም ሓደ ዓጢነ
    ንሕማቕ ምስላ እኮ ተኾኒነ

    ሕብረይ ኣብ ክንዲ ዘድመቕኩ
    ሕብሪ ክኡላትኩም ክንዲ ዝወከልኩ
    ንባንዴራታትኩም ኣብ ክንዲ ዝመሰልኩ
    ሰማያዊትኩም ካይተረፈ ክንዲ ዝዓጠቕኩ
    ወገናዊ እኮ ተወሰድኩ!
    ቋንታታኩም ክደግም ክንዲ ዝፈተንኩ
    ንኣኻትኩም ከሕጉስ ክንዲ ዝሃቀንኩ

    እስኪ ንገሩኒ እንታይ እየ ዝበደልኩ?

    እስኪ ንገሩኒ በጃኹም በደለይ
    ሰብ-ንሰቡ፡ ተሪፈ ዘራይ ዘይብለይ

    እዚ ሳልሕ ዝብሃል
    ከም ከልቢ-ከረን ኣይነኻኸስክዎ
    ከም ኩኩናይ ነጢረ ኣይተዃኾብክዎ
    እስኪ ተዋሓሱኒ እንታይ እየ ዝበደልክዎ?

  • Abi

    Selam Ato Saleh
    Great article.
    With your permission I like to add a wagging tail on the four wobbly legs, “ Eritrean Exceptionalism/ Uniqueness.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Abi,

      እዋይ ጉድ መፂዩ!
      As Horizon, owner of a dog attests, a wagging tail is a sign of friendship. PFDJ was wagging too much its tail to TPLF, it got bitten.

      When camels wag their tail, most of the time it is to get rid of bugs.
      On occasions the dominant male ኣውራ picks its tail when it wants to dominate the herd. But this hardly can be called wagging 🙂

      • Abi

        መምህር
        ጉድ ጥራይልካ!
        I’m kind of confused about this dominant camel picking its tail when dominating the herd.
        ደህና ነገር ጠፍቶ ነው ጭራውን የሚያነሳው?
        ጭራ አንስቶ ዘራፍ አይገባኝም::
        የግመል ነገር !

        • Saleh Johar

          Abi,
          A cultural lesson. People call it chira for decency. Actually it’s not chira in the literal sense. It’s a joke before you run with it 🙂

      • Selam Haile S.,
        Dogs manifest different feelings through body language. They wag their tail, grin which is sort of a smile, stare straight into your eyes, they come and stand next to you pushing with their body against you, etc. It is said that these are ways to show friendship, submission, ask you to do something for them, hug them because they are frightened for one reason or other, etc. Dogs understand your mood, and they act accordingly. In few words they are wonderful animals. They give you an unconditional love and friendship.

      • Brhan

        Hi Haile
        Typo error…እዋይ ጉድ መፂዩ!…እዋይ ጉድ መፂኡ ?

        • Haile S.

          Selam Brhan,
          I was speaking Abi’s tigrigna :-). You are not paying attention!

    • Saleh Johar

      Abi,
      You are not attentive today. There is a tail under the table but you can see it only when the table wags it 🙂

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Saleh
        Now I see the tail. It is tucked between the wobbly legs.
        I need to pay more attention to details.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Saleh,

        If you guys saw the tail, I also see it :-). When people want to see or hear, they see and hear. Let me tell you a story of my childhood. When I a youngster, a house in our area was said to be attacked by ዓምድረቦ. ዓምድረቦ is a kind of nasty spirit that bombards a house/family by throwing stones. So I got interested to go see like all my peers and I went with a friend. The people who were coming back after observing were warning us to be careful saying the stones are so big they can break our heads and bones. We arrived there. We waited and waited and waited, nothing happend. The people we met there said it happend just before we arrived and promised us it was coming. They pointed to some stones here and there as some of the thrown once. We left without seeing or hearing anything. People who went there after I and a friend left told us stones were pouring. My be I am a natural exorcist :-). When one is convinced, it is like religion :-).

        • Saleh Johar

          HaileS,
          It’s Abdurobo, not anderobo. I have a long section on him on the kings and bandits. Maybe I can present it in an episode just for a laugh. It’s based on a true story I witnessed. Coming soon 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Thank you Saleh,
            Please do.

            I had told the story here before, but just briefly. The same goes to the howling used to be said coming from the burial ground of the rich Dejach Kenfu following his burial. The whole Asmara went to listen. Many claimed heard, but I didn’t despite hours of wating.

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam Saleh G.,

    It is an interesting article.

    You said:

    “Recently, Samuel Emaha in an interview said that the College he used to teach at (faculty and students) were overwhelmingly from one ethnic group.”

    I think it is wrong to arrive at the mistaken conclusion that there is ethnic discrimination in education in Eritrea.

    First, due to life style or attitudes towards secular education, not all ethnic groups send their children to schools in sufficient numbers.

    Second, entrance to University/Colleges is purely on the basis of GPA of matriculation results and nothing else. I know this as a fact.

    • Saleh Johar

      Simon,
      During the hangout era, similar reasons were given. I think sometimes you need to give benefit of the doubt to those who complain. They can’t be always wrong for at least a century.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Saleh G.,

        This issue can be tackled in a rational manner but it has now entered the realm of conspiracy theories on Eritrea.

        • Saleh Johar

          Simon,
          There are many of us with first hand experience, it is not conspiracy or anything you imagine. It’s real, at least for those on the receiving end. Just see it openly with no pre-judgement.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Saleh G. and Amanuel H.,

            What is unfair about using GPA of matriculation results for University/College entrance purposes?

            Can you suggest alternative methods?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Simon,

            Since you know this more than me and that you may have more experience, but before we look at the GPA and exam results, shouldn’t there be other needs that we should look into. Such as access to quality / equal education everywhere.

            In your opinion, do you primary / secondary education in Eritrea is distributed equally?

            I will give an example. When I grew up in Asmara in the 80s, it’s guaranteed almost over 80 /90 percent that those who attended the catholic run schools would pass the participation exam compared those who attended the public schools (where the passing rate was probably less). I am using example where the feeder school (cambini, lassale vs etege memento), no offence, to the high school at the time, qehas, lul Mekonen. What I am trying to show is the same people with the same “education” level can have different outcome in the exam.

            This division applies universally and good governments and societies try to narrow the gap with all that they can.

            Do you think the Eritrean government have done enough to narrow the gap, accords the country?

            Berhe

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Berhe,

            There is a lot to be done. The country is starting from scratch, resources are scarce,was involved in conflict with its neighbours.

            But my point is that there is no ethnic discrimination in education in Eritrea.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Hailat,

            I don’t think you got what I was saying;). I was reffering to the feeder schools to ቀኃስ, before they nationalize all the private schools.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Sorry Berhe,

            ናይ እርጋን ምልክት’ዩ:-) ወይዛ እንጋንየ፡ ወይዛ እንጋንየ፡ ባዕላ እያ እምበይ ኣነማ’ይደለኹዋን’የ……

          • Saleh Johar

            Simon,
            Let’s assume we started from scratch in 1991, what’s keeping us there 30 years on? By the way, I don’t think we started from scratch, we had a country devastated by war. It’s a disadvantage but hardly a scratch.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            ዘረባ ዶ ይኸደካ’ሎ? ነዞም ኣብኡ ዝተመሃርና፡ ብቀኃስ ኣይትምጽኣና፡ ካንእ ቤ/ትምህርቲ ኮይኑ ከማን ነይስምዓና!

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe ,
            Thanks for your insight.

            Do you think the Eritrean gov’t have done enough to narrow the gap?
            That is the point. And the answer is it did not do enough to narrow the gap. The gap was created at the turn of the last century, where modern education was given to those who accepted new religion (Sweden’s Evangelical and Catholic missions).
            Then came Ethiopia with its discriminator policy and above with its policy of the scorched land which made a big part of of the population flee to the Sudan.
            So my answer will be ካብ ጉይይ ምውዓል ክሳድ ሓዝ.
            The gov’t did not do enough to make our people who fled in 1960s return to Eritrea.
            Here some may say that the gov’t is not guilty and can’t not be blamed for the past policies and actions.
            But if the gov’t keeps the status quo, then, it means that it does want solve the problem.
            There are many who saw in early 90s , that the gov’t was unwilling to work on the issue of return of Eritrean refugees of the 1960s because it abused the situation to be used as a tactic to consolidate its power.
            I agree with your points but the solution lies on seeing the issue in a comprehensive perspective and finding the solutions by looking to root cause.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Don’t blame the former Ethiopian governments for your failures today. 30 years after the independence hoax you only managed to run a single university.
            During the Abiyotawi Derg times, Ethiopian universities and colleges were filled with Eritreans with a lesser GPA. Derg used a quota system to accommodate more students from rural areas. Eritrea was given special provisions to win their hearts and minds. It was a huge mistake.
            Don’t also forget Derg kept the Asmara university running until the last day.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            The policy of scroched land policy in Eritrea was introduced by H. Slase who was dumped by Abiyoatwi Derg that ended again H.Salse’s policy of dsicrimination in Ethiopia.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            ጉድ መፂኡ!
            According to the information I gathered here, ELF burned more villages in Eritrea.
            ህዝባዊ አብዮታዊ ደርግ did everything to make life comfortable for Eritreans.
            ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ ለኤርትራ ምን ያላደረጉት ነገር አለ?

          • Berhe Y

            Abi,

            According to the information I gathered here, ELF burned more villages in Eritrea

            .

            Not even a single village.

            Eritrea was given special provisions to win their hearts and minds. It was a huge mistake.
            አረ: ኣንተ ስውየ ምን ነካህ

            All the Eritrean business owners were given special provisions…
            All the soccer players were given special provision to score easy goals.
            All the cyclists were given special provision to start 1 hour ahead…

            The problem with the King and his policy was…instead of working to develop the rest of Ethiopia while Eritrea keeps developing…he was developing Ethiopia while leaving Eritrean for stagnation..and was using systematic ways to move Eritreans to Addis Abeba and help develop.

            Question for you and I wanted to understand.

            Tesfahans Berhe was the governor of Eritrea during HSI times. He build a high rise building in Addis Abeba but not in Eritrea. WHY.

            Haregot Abay was the mayor of Asmara. He also build a high rise building in Addis Abeba instead of Asmara. WHY….

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            It is abundantly clear that you are not paying attention.
            ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ opened 35 factories in 5 years in Eritrea. I know you read የኤርትራ ጉዳይ by Ambassador Zewdie . Read it again. This time pay attention.

            Why አይተ ተስፋሃንስ and አይተ ሃረጎት አባይ built high rises in Addis? I really don’t know. I will try to ask them when I see them.
            መንገዶች ሁሉ ወደ አዲስ ያመራሉ

            Again, it was a huge mistake to educate the ungrateful Eritreans who suffered from affluenza on the expense of the poor Ethiopians. Huge mistake.
            If you read reports from ከፍተኛ ትምህርት ኮሚሽን during the Derg time, the number of scholarships were awarded to Eritreans was higher than everywhere else except Addis. Derg sent Eritreans abroad for studies knowing that they join elf/eplf.
            ጏድ ሊቀመንበር መንግሥቱ was an angel for Eritreans.
            Isu will never do a fraction of what Mengistu did for Eritreans. You know it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You argument revolves around “because Isu is really, really bad for Eritreans, therefor Mengistu” is better for you.

            I am sure Musolini was much, much better for you than Haile Slassie.

            Is it fair, if I tell you, In 5 years, he build all your roads, all your government institutions.

            Please be fair…at least…give us some break.

            Isayas could have turned Eritrea to Singapore. We just got a bad break.

            Do you think the people of Rwanda would say the same thing about their president Paul Kegame?

            What was impossible, for Eritrea not able to do what Rwanda was able to achieve in the last 30 years.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            What I said was both Abiyotawi Meri Mengistu and The Great King did great for Eritreans. Of course, you missed my point. I’m not surprised at all. I mentioned this because a person who has decided to remain in the dark keeps blaming the former Ethiopian governments for today’s Eritrea failures. It was my effort to shine light on Brhan so that he can see the reality. I’m sure you have greatly benefited from my lectures on Eritrean history. You don’t have to thank me for this. You really don’t have to.
            ገንዘብካ ሓወይ
            The rest is your usual “fly around the world” comment.
            Talk to me when you get back to the neighborhood.

            አንተን ተከትዬ አለምን አልዞርም
            Did you watch any of the champions league games?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You need to get off your couch from watching too many soccer games and travel the world around. If you can’t read 80 days around the world or watch the movie. It will do you good…I think the faulty of not being “colonized”, still living 1000 years behind from civilization as far as political development goes. The sad thing is, you are taking down with you.

            That’s why now I am supporting your idea of build the wall.

            These soccer schedule are too much to keep up, I subscribed to DAZN. May be if there is a some good games but for now will stick on weekends what I can.

            I don’t like the NFL style referring, looking at the lines and disallowing amazing goals.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            H.Slase must had done terrible things to Ethiopians to be called ሌባ and then to be dumped under ሰገራ ቤት by Ethiopians!!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Here we are discussing the good deeds the Greatest King did for Eritreans.
            Of course you missed it hiding in the dark ሰገራ ቤት.
            በል አሁን የታጠፈ ጉልበትህን ዘርጋና ሱሪህን ከፍ አድርገህ ቀበቶህን አጥብቅና ፍልሚያህን ወደ ኢሱዬ አዙር:: ንጉሱን ለመውቀስ ምንግዜም ትደርስበታለህ:: ቀበቶም ከሌለህ መቀነት ብጤ ፈልግና ታጠቅ::
            በል አሁን ፈጠን ብለህ ተነስ:: ቁጭ ብለህ ቀረህ እኮ! በል አይዞህ በርታ!
            ደግሞ መቀነትህ እንዳይጠልፍህ በቅጡ ታጠቀው::
            ስንቱን አስተምሮ ይዘለቃል?
            ጉድ እኮ ነው እባካችሁ!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            Let me provoke you. You said “Isayas could have turned Eritrea to Singapore. We just got a bad break”

            I have always been bemused by the 1990s dream of Singaporising Eritrean in a region where there is no South East Asia (SEA) or in a regional whose culture is at the opposote end of SEA’s culture.

            Eritrea is found in a area whose political culture is intrigue where the fight has always been to bring down at the cost of your livelihood whoever comes on top, whose economic culture is slavery (classical till the first world war, modernized since) and whose social culture is ethnic, clanic & familial that has not radically been affected by colonialism. I believe the simple fact of proclaiming the irrealistic wishes of attaining Singapore triggered the reflexively bloody-jealous to bring and enforse those bad cultures into open realisation.

            Eritreas vision of Singapore while coming from 30 years of devastation and at that “starting from scratch” in everything as its leaders self characterized and whose resources other than the sea outlet are yet to be determined was a very big mistake. Slim Eritrea cannot live only on sea water with the a cereal-filled Ethiopia on its back and the petrol and gold armored Geants facing it. Eritrea’s playground is a complicated maze that needs a sharp and quick leading mind.

            The desire to develop and exceed alone, leaving the neighborhood behind has been the curse of the region and prevented it from seeing anything that look like SEA. That was the biggest error of the TPLF gangs. They not only wanted to leave the neighbors behind, but did everything to reduce some of them to fragmentation and slavery starting with the people they lip-call “their brothers” when only they are in need like Now.

          • Selam Haile S.,

            The narratives, eritrea will be singapore, the emperor wanted the land and not the people, the christian king was forcing eritrean muslims to change their religion, etc, were used to justify the big sacrifice the people had to pay. Those who were saying these knew very well that none of these were true.
            A resourceless country like eritrea could never become singapore. Moreover, none of the criterias that made singapore one of the asian tigers is not there as well. If the plan was to develop eritrea by exploiting ethiopia, eritrea could never have been a european colonial power. Tplf wanted to do that and failed miserably.
            The only resource, the ports, were not the licence for success. It is difficult to say that eritrean elites didn’t know that, when there were many ports in the region available to ethiopia. It is odd that people still believe in the singapore myth, when even well developed countries are economically wobbling due to the continuous economic crisis since 2008. Eritreans should understand that alone without economic cooperation in good faith with neighbors, it will be a hazardous and an impossible journey towards economic development. Moreover, it is better to lower the bar of success so that they could achieve things that are within reach.

          • Aligaz G

            Horizon,

            By definition countries like Singapore, Dubai, Hong Kong and Djibouti don’t need resources. These are trading entrepôts favorably situated on vital trade routes with access to large markets. Eritrea could have easily been another Singapore but unfortunately the mentality and internal coherence was never there from the beginning.

          • Abi

            Hello Aligaz
            Just stopped by to say እንደምን ከርመሃል ?
            The problem I see among the Eritrean elites is that they view their ports as trophies on a glass shelf. Until they view the ports as services and commodities that bring monetary values, they remain on the shelf collecting dust. SGJ has an excellent article on this very issue. I hope he will bring it back as a front page article. Some important things must be said again and again until people understand the difference between a trophy won years back and an important game coming up. The upcoming game has to be given more and urgent priority than the past glories.
            ወደፊት!

          • Aligaz G

            Abi,

            A while back I ran into some Eritreans from Eritrea at some function and they are completely non entrepreneurial. Communism has completely deadened their spirit. The best bet economically for the country is with the diaspora but there you have so much political baggage and infighting expectations have to be low.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aligaz G,

            Not sure if it was judicious to form a generalized assessment opinion on the basis of a conversation at a casual encounter. But contrary to what you stated, compared to their counterparts in the countries of the region, Eritreans have known for their vibrant entrepreneurial and competing spirit where situations had allowed them. Wherever they went, they succeeded in business and other field of endeavor.

            It is true the past few decades conditions did not help them – firstly the national struggle for liberation, and secondly due to the despotism of a ruling clique and their leader who imposed, not really conventional communist rule, but a crude police state rule overseen by elaborate militia-civilian surveillance network. A comprador-rent seekers dominated economy run by such a system did drastically weaken the creative spirit of Eritreans because the first field for exercising their endeavor lies in Eritrea. Not being able to create and utilize opportunities in Eritrea, quite a few have migrated to other countries and achieved notable successes.

          • David Samson

            Selam Aligaz,

            Fair comment!

            To this day, I have always been fascinated by how the Singapore issue finds itself in Eritrea. I am one of the few who was laughing
            when all my friends had kept repeating the same empty slogan. It had put me at odds with many people. Mind you, the time was when Eritreans were consuming all sorts of substances. As Habesha, I have never heard my ancestors had boasted and gloated about anything; to the contrary whey were modest in all sense of the word. It must be the dirt word—commy— who gave us this bad name and reputation. The guerrilla leaders were commy immersed, never worked, did not have worldly experience; they felt the world as their feet, could control and run the world by merely reading “Des Capita”.

            How did it all start?

            A foreign minister of Eritrea had visited Singapore. This geezer never visited, let alone lived, in the region. Without cultural and historical context, he remarked along the lines of “We will make Eritrea the Singapore of Africa”. As saying goes, the rest is history: Many Eritreans had kept repeating it without understanding any context, Needless to say, it was not the only an embarrassment,
            but also many Eritreans have consumed this toxic substance until recently and some of them have not come of trance yet.

            Two days, or so ago, I was listening to a radio programme on “Sahel”. The River Niger has reduced to 30% of its capacity, but the population relying on it has grown by 60%.

            There is an increasing scare resource among the Sahel region,
            of which Eritrea is one of them. Political violence and conflicts over resources have been growing in the region. Owing to overpopulation, and climate change, the Sahel has been growing its desertification by 40-50km per year.

            I wish someone from this region has the following vision:

            “Halt the expansion of the Sahel, or otherwise they will not be life in a hundred’s years.”

            Let us get real and dream measurably.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dave,

            I didn’t know the origin of the boasting – “we will be the Singapore of Africa”. Now I know, that it was from the PFDJ government, specifically from the Foreign minister. In the last 29 years there were only four foreign ministers including the current one. Can you give us the year it was said so we can know who said it, if you don’t want to give us his name?

            Regards

          • David Samson

            Selam Emma,
            It is not a secret: Petros Solomon.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dave,

            Thank you brother.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Amanuel,

            I don’t think what David said is what you changed it be as “we will be the Singapore of Africa”. I never believed that was the intention if Petros Solomon said or Isayas Afeworki said.

            What I remember correctly was, Isayas was on a tour or visit Asian countries and he made a visit to Singapore, out of his desire “to model Eritrea development”.

            I saw nothing wrong with it then and I see nothing with it today.

            To me, fighting for independence and making it a possibility is 100 times harder than setting up schools and having a good education system. That’s all Singapore did to start the economic miracle.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Running a gorilla war is much easier than running a country.
            When your liberators were fighting hard to enslave you, Abiyotawi Derg was responsible for the well-being of Eritreans in every aspect of your lives.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            And we will go to Zimbabwe and beg him to come and rule us.

            Then you will get jealous more:).

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I love you too.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Dave put it as paraphrase. And I qouted him as paraphrase. If it wasn’t echoed by the leadership, it wouldn’t become a song of the public. We are not debating on the intention of the sayers, we talking who brought that phrase to the fore for public consumption.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Unless I misunderstood you, I think David is commenting on the intention, as if there is anything wrong with it, and you are emphasizing it.

            There is nothing wrong to aspire to be Singapore of Africa. Like you constantly remind us, how Melles “revolutionary/ or developmental economic model” similar to that of China the “only way” forward.

            Why are others who dream big praised and when ours do it they are ridiculed?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            There is nothing wrong if it didn’t remain as a slogan just for political consumption. Meles and Issayas had viewed “developmental state” as a way out to go. Meles had practically implemented it and we have seen the fruits of that on the ground. Issayas detour from that idea and I think you don’t need any explanation on the plight of the Eritrean people. They were not true to the “phrase” and never attempted it to be part of their policy. It was intended for gloating and as political deities for public consumption.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Prof. Emma,
            If I am not mistaken, this mantra had started from Petros Solomon and he meant it. Unfortunately, he didn’t realize how evil his boss was. DIA never want Eritrea’s development. Never.
            A guy that hates educated people can’t create Singapore of Africa.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            I don’t think I have different view on the government failure to deliver what it promised. I don’t think anyone here is defending the government policy and achievements and it’s failures.

            What I am having issue is this “How dare for Eritrea to even think that it can model it’s development like Singapore” attitude and how wrong it was to even think about it.

            I am saying there is nothing wrong to think and dream big, because every thing we call great comes from great thinking and dreaming big.

            To me, for people like you, leaving your education and joining the liberation movement, thinking and believing that you can defeat the imperial government and successfully transition to a statehood, Big Audacious Goal.

            Under good leadership and good plans to develop, it would have been possible.

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Berhe/Prof. Emma,
            Let along the whole Eritreans, my few cousins from San Georgio HS, would turn Eritrea to Singapore, over few years. Is that a stretch? Only, if only DIA was aborted. No offense to his relatives.

          • Saleh Johar

            MM,
            Aboy Grens’e would build something close to Singapore. He is a muratore, ነዳቃይ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሳልሕ
            ኣታ ሰብኣይ ብሰንክኻ ተስሪኒቐ ኔረ።
            እንሹራንስ ክኣቱ ኣለኒ ‘ምበር..

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            It is not Issayas the only problem we have. Look at the character of population and the political culture ingrained in to it. We need cultural transformation before we even think about it. At this time and even after the demise of the despot it is a long way to build a tolerant society. Let us dream a tolerant and reconciled society and work for it. In the last 30 years, we become intolerant society to each other. We don’t listen to each other. The mistrust of the highlanders and lowlanders is worsening by the day. The highlanders do not lend their ears to the real grievance of the lowlanders. The arrogance of the highlanders can not let us to build a tolerant and reconciled society. This is our reality as we speak. The deniers will persist to do what they are trained to do. Therefore, to dream to be like Singaporean, at this juncture it is an Utopian dream.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Prof. Emma,
            It is sad to see St George HS this way. The collected money could have made significant remodeling + some new classes/Labs, etc.
            On the cultural transformation, it will take a dynamic leader/preacher few years to influence the change. That will be a huge task. I hate saying that but we have became damaged goods.

          • Abi

            MM
            Looks like St George HS produced two of the best brains in Awatenation. An Engineer and Industrial Chemist.
            Is it one of the Catholic school? The name sounds Catholic.
            Thanks

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            It was really a famous and many highly educated Eritreans went to that HS. Unfortunately, I am not one of them 🙁

          • Abi

            MM
            Definitely you are one of the smartest people at Awatenation except you don’t answer simple questions.
            is it one of the Catholic schools? Is it a public school? Or some kind of private school?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam haw Berhe,

            If we don’t walk the walk, it becomes bluffing. You could only dare to say that slogan, if we have and show the characteristics of the Singaporean people. A people who have no unity can not dream that big dream. Let us do the basics first.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Amanuel,

            The disagreement that I have with you occasionally is you do not separate the victims from the abusers.

            We the Christian highlanders are the problem of the Eritrean politics.

            I am a Christian highlander, even though I am not in politics, I do not take any responsibility for the abuse and operation imposed on the Eritrean population by the Isayas regime. I am a victim and so do you, so why should we be hold responsible for the crimes of the ruling junta.

            In Eritrea, because we have highland and lowland and we have Christian and Muslim we tend to lump people together based on their ethnicity and identity. But that is really further from Truth.

            East Germany was same religion and same people and same ethnicity. But the people suffered by the Stasi and it’s security apparatus for years.

            So you need to separate the PFDJ and the it’s gangs from the rest of the population. And the reason for that:
            1) we focus on a small target of cuprit
            2) you will encourage the “Christian Tigrina” who are victims to fight the oppressive regime along side the other ethinic and religious group.

            On a personal not, I can’t wait to see a non Eritrean Christian to be our next leader.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            We can not account here the action of all individual Eritreans. It is neither your task nor it is mine. No body held you accountable for the crimes of the regime. Actually, it isn’t our debate. Go back and read my argument. I don’t mix issues. In fact you are bringing issues that are out of the context of our debate.

            The issue I raised is straightforward. What I have said is simple to understand. Unless we become a tolerant a reconciled people, we can not dream to be Singaporean. Period. Now if you oppose my argument, show us that we a tolerant and reconciled people, so that we can dream to be like Singaporean people. Pls don’t branch our debate.

            Second, if you don’t see the highland/lowland or Muslim/ Christian divide in our politics, I can’t help you. But for something you don’t know, don’t tell to the public we don’t have those divides. It is true and alive in our politics. An organization that planted the seeds of discordances by saying “Abotat Adetat nihna ina dekikum” to hate and neglect the lowlanders, and an organization that made our “Muslims as the bogeyman of their politics for decades – now you dare to tell us, there is no division in our society. Give me a brake.

            Look at the attitude of our highlanders including the organization that represent them: their attitude when they tell to the aggrieved part of our society that they know their needs and they represent them by grabbing all the economic and the political power in their hand. If you are not part of this attitude, it is the attitude of the majority of the Christian highlanders. They always pronounced it either directly or indirectly. We are not fair to the aggrieved part of our society. If you are not aware of it, try to communicate with the aggrieved social groups.

            Regards

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            May be I don’t understand your argument and the knowledge you have. They way I want to frame our situation is, those who are PFDJ and their supporters and the everyone else together in the same camp.

            Because I am really not sure who do you have in mind, when you say the “Highland Christian Political group”.

            1) Are you talking those in PFDJ government.
            2) Are you talking about those in Opposition parties
            3) Are you talking about those in civil servants
            4) Are you talking those in Ethiopia.
            5) Are you talking about those in Eritrean military.

            We have the whole government that we know is an outlaw government that we wanted to replace.

            What is that you suggest we need to? Because saying it’s the fault of the “Christian Tigrina polical leaders”, honestly mean nothing right now at this current moment. The whole government is the problem. If you are saying there are more Christian in the government and they are responsible for all our problems, may be you are right.

            I am honestly I don’t know, if you are talking now or if you are talking post the regime?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            It is neither of your five possibilities that have you speculated. My argument is about the whole Eritrean society and its contradictions – that includes the aggravator and the aggrieved. You should know who is the aggravator and the aggrieved by now.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Pro. Amanuel,

            Your idea is nice and acceptable and Berhe is also right..All we need is to be accept each other while the difference is still floating and should not consume our similarities we should go united and go on to decay the enemy who is making the difference..Think of your self first to think of the outside world..

            The majority of Singaporeans today are descendants of immigrants who settled on the island when Singapore was founded ….Singapore is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural and multi-lingual country, and Singaporeans of Chinese, Malay, Indian and Eurasian descent have made up the vast majority of the population since the 19th century and we better than them when comes the difference..I mean the social make up of those people is a complete mess but we are not the difference we see in Singapore yes we couldn’t unite enough..Then why ask who said it and think of the past ? Now, we have enough time to correct it…All we have to do is make the problem in each of us and solve within that is how to come to the solution..A country without rule is not to think correctly on those type of problems… and we are all responsible on solving this problem,,

            KS,,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kokhobay,

            There is no fact on the ground that we are better than them. The facts are the opposite that you could think of about us. A people that does not have social unity and unity of purpose couldn’t be better than them. We have to be open and honest to recognize our problem. Scaring to talk about it and talking platitudinal about it will not be the solution to our social problem. The more we scare to talk about it the more our social fabric will be torn down like that we are watching in Ethiopia. We should not let the mistrust to grow to enmity. The red light is blinking to alert us. Avoid ambivalence and talk point blank.

            Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Pro. Aman,

            I agree with you that “We should not let the mistrust to grow to enmity.” that is what I am saying..What we have in our country is easy to understand comparing that of Singapore while I clearly mention the wide difference they had..

            I am certain what is going on in sister country Ethiopia. I am deeply following it and it is really a trouble problem. Ethiopia will be history soon if will continue in this way..and yes Eritrea will follow…That is why I am trying to see the positive side of the situation for all of us.

            Let us hope for the best I think… it is really needs more wisdom and knowledge.. .

            KS,,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kokhobay,

            There is no multicultural society without differences. To have differences with “tolerance to the existing differences” is the answer to social equilibrium. The Singaporean have it and we don’t. So I don’t understand your premises that says the Singaporean people have more differences than ours, as long as they are capable to handle their differences, whereas we don’t. Did you see the problem of your argument?

            Regard

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Pro,Aman,

            Yes I noted but then…I couldn’t understand the long past differences we Eritrean had… can you explain the reason? Is that the like Libya and Somali? what is that? I am confused in this I don’t have answer..But go a head and explain to me…Give us short historical reason…

            KS,,.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ

            ‘ታ ሓደ-ህዝቢ ሓደ-ልቢ
            ዶ ዋላስ
            ሓደ እግሪ?
            ክብሉ ዘጽምሙናስ
            ለካስ
            ብግምጥልሽ ዩ ኣብ ግብሪ!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            The strategy of “Unity by subtraction” can create a society of Hade Libi Hade social group – birds of the same feather flocked together. PFDJ has never reflected to our diversity and never will be. That is why even those who escaped from the country still organized with them in the diaspora.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            I had a Korean friend in school, and he told me the story of locusts in his country. He said, the are delicacy and I wondered which part. He said to me, some time in the past, locusts infested their farms and they had no means to get rid of them, they decided to fry and eat them as nothing much left for them to eat. So the tradition continues.

            The Koreans, with sheer hard work and determination, with no natural resources, but focusing on education, they have transferred their country into first world in less than 50 years.

            Eritrea during the federation when it was run by her own people (1952 – 1956) was ahead of most Asian countries. There is absolutely nothing that we wouldn’t been able to do and achieve had we were left alone and lead our lives in our own.

            Why is Ethiopian Airlines become world class and successful. It is still run by African people. If the same level of drive and motivation was possible in all other sectors of the economy, why do you think it’s not possible. Ethiopian doesn’t need to invent boing 747 to be successful.

            Africa let alone it self it has the capacity to feed the world. The only problem with the corrupt governments.

            And I don’t know about boasting…but if an Eritrean cyclist says “I want to win Tour France” why is that boasting.

            Rwanda copied and implemented the Asian Tigers plan, why is it haram to think like that.

            Sorry to say this, but sometimes when I read your comments you remind me the Disney character Eeyore from Winnie-the-Pooh.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            You do not have to say sorry or sometimes, as I said many times in the past, my job is to highlight the bleak nature of Africa. The
            continent is doomed unless a massive intervention by the west. You and many others believe otherwise; that is fine. You have been living on babble for over 30 years and some people will do until the cow’s home, though deep down they know that the continent is dying by the days.

            Eating a locust by a choice is fine. In Thailand, they eat all sorts of insects, not due to starvation, but a lifestyle choice. You either do not know or do not want to admit, that the Habesha land had the experience of constant drought and locust. In this day and age, these inept leaders are unable to stop locust. If Europeans did not invent the anti-locust sprays, it is highly likley that you and I would not be arguing about it now.

            You seem to enjoy quoting Asian countries, please come close home: Lebanon has a similar history and ethnic make to Eritrea, but many Eritreans avoid it like a plague until one brave Tigrayan confronted IA in the late 80s.

          • Aligaz,
            The ports you mentioned are not only on international waterways crisscrossed in all directions, especially, Hong Kong and Singapore are manufacturing and banking hubs. Dubai is rich in oil and natural gas and banking business has grown. Moreover, the port of djibouti is situated at the mouth of the red sea where it joins the Indian Ocean. It is frequented by those who trade between Europe and Asia for a long time.
            The Ethiopian hinterland as well gives vitality to these ports and none of the ports can say for sure whether Ethiopia will choose either one or the other.
            If Eritrea still dreams to become Singapore, one has to wait to see. I don’t know if Eritrean elites of the time had done research when they said they would make Eritrea singapore. In addition, the young working force has and is still leaving the country, which doesn’t help the situation.

          • Saleh Johar

            Horizon,
            Another correction: most Eritreans do not want to be Singapore or anything else. They just want to be Eritreans. Don’t hold us responsible for what some imbeciles dreamt in a time of euphoria.

          • Aligaz G

            Horizon,

            China initially designated Shenzen as it main trade zone but later when its economy started accelerating added Guangzhou, Zhuhai (Pearl Delta) and other cities such as Xiamen. But what most people don’t realize is that the off shore areas you mentioned such as Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and Singapore served as financial centers to expedite trade, investment and banking services for these mainland trade zones. So coming back to Ethiopia, all experts agree Djibouti will not be enough therefore Eritrean, Somaliland and Sudanese ports will be important and all without political iintegration.If you have traveled to Dubai you would immediately realize the oil has long been exhausted and now trading, banking and tourism are key. Anyway Eritrea can become Singapore and Djibouti the new Hong Kong as long as Ethiopia becomes the new China. And as alluded to by David S Regional growth is the key. cheers

          • Selam Aligaz,
            What you said is right. For late comers like us, regional growth, most probably, is the key to success. Nevertheless, for this to happen we should have started yesterday and not tomorrow. We are bogged down in the past, losing the present and not sure about the future, unfortunately, hegemonic identity politics and the refusal to accept our responsibilities are weighing upon us, and we can’t make a new start.
            What we shouldn’t forget is that the above mentioned places are havens for offshore banking, and their long-term viability maybe in question. I don’t know.
            If there is peace and the mentality to work together and not to undermine eachother, the chances for a better future are there.
            I saw an Eritrean flag in the demonstration against trump somewhere in the USA. I felt as if Eritrea was saying, it is my dam too. This shows that there are rational people out there which gives hope.

          • sara

            selam ato horizon,
            i read always the Singapore thing discussed frequently with eritrea ,
            and i have never heard a government policy statement that said eritrea will follow the path of Singapore etc.
            this is maybe a saying popularized by some in the populace who want easy expression about their wishes to the country.
            ask any one eritrean in the forum who could give you a reference whether documented paper or recorded statment that this was a policy of

          • Selam w/ro, w/rit sara,
            In my opinion, this narrative started to circulate in the air before eritrea became independent or there was any eritrean government. With the income from the ports, domination of the ethiopian market and the can achieve anything eritrean citizens, many eritreans were dreaming that their country could be singapore.
            It was the wish of eritrean elites and the eritrean people who were brainwashed with this idea without being a policy of one sort or other. Maybe eritreans could elaborate more on this.
            As you see, this narrative pops up now and then and becomes the topic for discussion. There are still people who believe that it is achievable.

          • sara

            selam ato horizon,
            thank you for your response… , as i said there is no references… yes. its just a simple way expression of some sort . if you read below… our SJG has said it eloquently in a brief comment what most eritreans want to be .
            honestly, from what i read here ther is so much misconception about eritreans , that is formed from what you and many foreigners hear or read by some who have their own agenda whether
            in social,poletical matters. simply put eritreans always aspired to be themselves.
            in this ofcourse there are some like anywhere have different aspirations but the majority are as
            SJG said . we always want to be us and has been tough ride that’s why we are always antagonized by others.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam sis Sara,

            If you have followed the discussion, there were a “statement” said by ex-foreign minister Petros Solomon to that effect (courtesy Dave’s info). The public can not chant that “sloganeering wish” by the public, unless they heard from the horse’s mouth – the government officials. There is nothing wrong to wish positive to your country and your people. The issue is: the government who pushed out the educated section of our society, a government that can not utilize the know how of our people, and a government which has not the agenda to “unite and reconcile” our people is unfit to realize the wishes of his people including the dream to be like Singaporean. Eritreans must dream doable based on our realities, starting with “uniting and reconciling” our people. Dreaming from our homes without doing the basic of sociopolitical relationship of our society. You are smart, you could easily find out the inaptness of the clique that is in the helm of power. They don’t know what they could and couldn’t do.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Selam Horizon,

            As I mentioned, the dream to singapore was wrong. But you mixed up other things to create a trend, beef your arguments and to dig-in with your ‘resourceless’ expression. Aren’t you doing the same thing you are reproaching?

            On christian king was forcing eritrean muslims, I am not sure of which king you are are talking about. If it was about Yohannes IV, it is well documented, not only Muslim leaders of regions that are in Eritrea, but also those living in Ethiopia proper then.

            Regarding the “the emperor wanted the land and not the people”, I not sure if he said it, word by word or if it was extrapolated or not at all. But let me share with you something that I didn’t have the occasion to mention before. Among the Eritrean representatives living in Addis Ababa who were working to bring Eritrea to Ethiopia in the 50th and 60th, one was a relation to my family (no more details necessary). A highly decent and respectable man who was convinced of his choice. It happens that when I was in Addis in the 80s, I was the one of those who occassionaly accompanied him to the hospital before in his final days. He rarely talked of politics, but one day In some of our rare discussion, he talked about the day his committee went to congratulate Haileselessaie about Eritrea joining Ethiopia. That day they were kept outside, and Haileselassie came briefly on the balcony or the door to wave his hands and thanked them. I don’t remember what the man had mentioned the king said word by word, but I recall how he felt rejected with his colleagues compared to how they were treated before that date. Before that they always well received inside the palace with all the pompous treatments. They returned from the doorstep without formal reception.

          • Selam Haile S.,
            Maybe your relative felt rejected but the fact that Eritreans later joined HSI’s government says a different thing. I don’t think that Eritreans were made to feel outsiders. Eritreans had access to everything in ethiopia and they were completely free and equal.

          • Saleh Johar

            Horizon,
            Please, always put qualifiers when you generalize Eritreans. There are more Eritreans who never felt free or equal under Ethiopian rule. A little wisdom goes a long way. You can say this when the atrocities and cruelty becomes a fading history. Not now when the victims are still living and have vivid memories of what they went through. Pls drop your ultra nationalism for the sake of the established truth. It’s inhuman to mock our sufferings. Kindly do that for the sake of a good future not giving life to the appalling cycle of the recent past. Thank you for understanding.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            What is the established truth?
            Who is setting the standards for this established truth?
            Preaching propaganda day and night does not amount to establishing any truth.
            Eritreans had been the cream of Ethiopia. That is an established truth.
            Sorry.

          • Saleh Johar

            Abi,
            Then my call for reconciling Truth holds. If we have different truth then we need to reconcile the. Can we meet at the center where we can address the issues in a sane manner? I hope you agree

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            I’ve already made mint tea. Eagerly waiting for your arrival.

          • Saleh Johar

            Abi, with pleasure I thought you are next door to me. Give me a call and I will be there before እንትናው ሳይፈላ:-)

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            በሥጋ ብንራራቅም በመንፈስ አንድ ላይ ነን::
            አይዞዎት አይስጉ ጌታው:: እንትናው የሚፈላበት ዘመን አልፏል::

          • Teodros Alem

            tella
            U too exaggerating things , “eritreans had been the cream of ethiopia” is false! Maybe ur stink wife is the cream of ur pathetic life.
            as far as i know there were less than 100, 000 eritreans used to live in the whole of ethiopia outside of eritrea when eri was part of ethiopia, majority of them were working on the transportation business, including car mechanics, only few individuals used to run cafeteria, bakery, in government owned houses, only few of them working in government offices.
            Zembeleh zzzz atbel.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam heile
            Agree in most of what u have said but instead of land if u said port, it makes sense, most ethiopians still believe assab belongs to a proud afar people of ethiopia than and now, but eritrea land is a joke, people believe eri land is useless.

          • Lebam

            Selam Horizon,

            The stories of the king forcing Muslims to convert to Christianity is true. It might not suit your narrative, but it is true nonetheless. That is not to say Muslims who has Tigringa as a native language moved to Eritrea at that specific time, because that is not the case. Even in 2020 is the Eritrean population just an estimate.

            Eritrea has resources and it’s not just the very desired ports by Ethiopians. You didn’t mention the Bisha mine that is producing gold, silver, zink and copper. The possibility of there being potential undiscovered resources is also very high.

            I am dissapointed in your behaviour, because I thought you and Kim Hanna were the two sensible Ethiopian Amharas on the forum. You went with the forumite Abiy’s approach, which consists of trying to justify crimes commited to our people by DERG and downplay Eritrean sovereignty.

          • Selam Lebam,
            I had HSI in mind and not Yohannes IV.
            Ethiopia has gold mines but they have not made her rich like South Africa.
            What is the problem in telling the difference between facts and myth? Singapore never happened, the narratives concerning the king have not been proven. As much as other events that have taken place, there is no reason to doubt, and during the 30 yrs of war, atrocities have taken place. But, it is difficult to accept every narration that has been said. Of course, written history will clear up things one day.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Lebam,

            It’s really easy to predict Horizon and Abi and the other guy that I don’t want to mention his name starts with T. They will go crazy and bananas every time they hear anything positive plans to help revive Eritrea.

            They will tell us, why it’s not possible and never think why it’s possible. Like we say in Tigriana “ተሓጋሚ ከሎ ተሓዚ ይጠርጥ” you probably don’t understand what it means. May be Haile will find suitable translation or similar.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            ታጋሚ እያለ ያዥ ይፈሳል!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Haile,

            Lebam is not “amiche” he understand European:). You translated for Abi instead:). I like it.

            May be use your French…

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Berhe,

            Funny! I thought Lebam reads and understands tigrigna. I translated it to Abi eventhough he understands tigrigna.

            I always get in trouble when I try to translate tigrigna proverbs to french or english. So I am not trying :-). I will leave it to Abi. My first trouble was in France when I was trying to tease my classmates by translating ልቢ ሰበይቲ ክንዲ መርፍእ ንስ’ኳ ‘ተሰዓምካታ ትጠፍእ. Coming from a world of macho men and submissive women, I thought it would be funny. Unfortunately no, I was chased out of the class by the girls 🙂 🙂 :-).

          • Abi

            መምህር
            Translation please. I like to know what sin you committed to be chased out of class.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Jetaw

            የሴት ልብ እና የመርፌ ቀዳዳ ኣንድ ናቸው
            ሁለቱ ይጠፋሉ ስትስማቸው

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ጉድ ፈላ ዘንድሮ
            ኤርትራውያን የመርፌ ቀዳዳ ምን ያስማቸዋል? አደራህን ሴቶቹን ለማስቀናት ነው እንዳትለኝ!

            Let me try Ras Abi’s style

            የሴት ልጅ ልብ እና ሻማ አንድ ናቸው
            ቅልጥልጥ ይላሉ ሞቅ ሞቅ ሲላቸው
            አሙቆ ነው እንጂ እቅፍቅፍ አድርጎ
            ልባቸውን ማቅለጥ በፍቅር ጠፍንጎ!

          • Lebam

            Selam Haile S,

            I understand spoken Tigringa, no doubt. But, I can’t read Tigringa with confidence as I mentioned previously.

            I could read better when I was younger, but other interests and two other European languages being used more frequently Tigringa in the written form sadly slipped away.

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ‘አባ በበሉ እማሆይን አገሳቸው’

          • Teodros Alem

            bare
            I know eritrea is none of ur business but with this eritreans mentality( except Saay and Saleh Johar kind of few individuals) , under any kind of government forget Singapore, eritrea will not be eritrea 25 years ago or eritrea will not be Djibouti.
            I know i made u happy..

          • Lebam

            Selam Berhe Y,

            I completely agree and it is glaringly obvious. I haven’t forgotten your idea about becoming a commonwealth country. It could be a possible alternative for Eritrea in the future.

            I sadly can’t read it with confidence, but I’m working on it. 🙂

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Lebam,

            I haven't forgotten your idea about becoming a commonwealth country. It could be a possible alternative for Eritrea in the future.

            It is really, really wonderful to hear this…..

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Still looking for a babysitter?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            This idea really irritates you, I know. That’s the reason you never think about Djibouti where it depends on you for almost 100% of it’s supply.

            It’s not looking for baby sitter but aspiring to join the club of excellence to be among the best of the best democracies in the world.

            Same as our cyclist have become. Same as we should aspire to be in the premier league.

            It’s all possible, we just have to work for it.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            No I’m not irritated. The only time I will be irritated is if you ask me to babysit you again. I did it for almost 40 years ( 1961-1998) .

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe,
            It’s murky waters in the region. People often forget they are stepping on our toes for no reason. I don’t know why they insult us wholesale because I believe they know better. But it’s a phase and they will overcome their urge to insult. Stay the coarse and true to the ideals we still wish to accomplish. At the end, it seems we have only ourselves because the elite have different agendas and it is not in pursuit of peace or “prosperity” they just want to see Eritrea damaged more that it already has. Call it political sadism.

          • Saleh Johar

            Horizon,
            Would an eyewitness narration prove your doubts. I am one among hundreds of thousands. How would you feel if anyone denied the atrocities committed on Ethiopians by the fascists? Exactly. Please stay away from the trend of “Holocaust deniers”

          • Lebam

            Selam Horizon,

            Ethiopia has gold mines but they have not made her rich like South Africa.

            South Africa shouldn’t be called rich when the poverty is so prevalent, but I get your drift. Ethiopias population is approximately 120 million people. Eritreas population is approximately 6 million, depending on the source.

            It doesn’t take a lot to sustain the Eritrean population. The inhabitants could likely live comfortable lives with good leadership.

          • Selam Lebam,
            Gold is finite. Sustaining life doesn’t exactly mean living.
            Today oil companies have stopped to prospect for oil, and they don’t invest even in known oil deposits, because of the low price of oil, and the danger that it could be a commodity of no use within a generation or two. Non-fossil energy is one of the means to stop climate change and save the world.
            In my opinion, as much as natural resources are concerned, in the future, having fertile land and abundant water are more important than anything else. Producing food may be more significant than any other enterprises. If Ethiopians learn to produce food and food products, they can improve there economy than if they try to build factories that produce other products. Third world countries are not going to compete with the West or the East, other than by producing everyday consumer products that sustain life.
            Therefore, countries like Ethiopia and Eritrea should work for peace and development by mobilising their people. Confrontation and antagonism has kept them backward and it will continue to do so for decades and maybe for centuries to come. Their so-called exceptionalism that exists only in their minds, has not/will not extricate them out of poverty. I hope you know this saying: የፉክክር ቤት ሳይዘጋ ያድራል፣. Cooperation on a regional and continental level is very important. Miracles do not happen anymore.

          • Lebam

            Selam Horizon,

            Sustaining life could definitely mean living. It solely depends on the context of which the word is used. In this case it can be read as maintaining/maintain, which happen to be a synonym.

            Third world countries are not going to compete with the West or the East, other than by producing everyday consumer products that sustain life.

            I wholeheartadly disagree. There’s a sea of Eritrean professinals that are waiting for a higher calling. Also, most in the West that I have seen, 9/10, have climbed the ladder thanks to nepotism, or friendship. In no way, shape, or form, have it been because they were better than those at xxxx companies. It has infact been the opposite. Producing food would be a great source of revenue and I support the idea, but we can achieve much more collectively.

            I support that Eritrea and Ethiopia should work for peace and development. It is however of utmost importance that there is respect for Eritrean sovereignty. Without that specific key component I just mentioned there won’t be a single step made in the right direction.

            Lastly, we can achieve many great things and won’t listen to people with ulterior motives saying we can’t.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Hailat,

            If I understand you correctly, Eritrea should just keep it’s mouth shut and does what it needs to do to develop itself, so it doesn’t become a target of “ill wishers”. This I agree with you, but even if it was said as policy, I don’t think it mattes if the government actually had a plan and wish to do so.

            UAE surrounded by centuries old rivers between Iran, Iraq, Saud Arabia and Turkey, yet they managed to do relatively good. Dubai inc was created by a vision of the leader, if what I read is correct.

            Singapore is next to hostile and large neighbor, Indonesia.

            Taiwan is next to hostile and large neighbor, China.

            Botswana is next to three hostile neighbors when it got it’s independence, S. Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia all were under the control of colonial powers. It’s land locked country.

            Israel is surrounded by countries that wanted to push her to the Red Sea.

            Rwanda come from one of the worst genocide. It’s 1300 KM away from port in Kenya.

            The common fact in all these countries is, good leadership. The did not squander their their opportunity, and decided to shut down and freeze their development by perceived “enemy”. Out neighbor to the south is a much, much easier power to fight with, if it comes to that compared what those other countries to deal with. Yes, they are big, they have lots of people, but well disciplined and well respected and well behaved Eritrea would be able to stand anything that comes her way.

            I don’t want to guess who idea it was first. But Paul Kegame and Isayas Afeworki were sharing notes in the 1990. Both had idea to model the development of their countries after the far east and Singapore.

            Rwanda managed to create a vision called Vision 2020 while Eritrea created “Darkness 2020”. Rwanda was implemeting it’s vision for the past 20 years, while Eritrea was implement the same vision (in reverse order).

            As per wiki:

            Vision 2020 is a government development program in Rwanda, launched in 2000 by Rwandan president Paul Kagame.

            Its main objective is transforming the country into a knowledge-based middle-income country, thereby reducing poverty, health problems and making the nation united and democratic.

            In the late 1990s, president Paul Kagame and his government began actively planning methods to achieve national development. He launched a national consultation process[2] and also sought the advice of experts from emerging nations including China, Singapore and Thailand.[1] Following these consultations, and shortly after assuming the presidency, Kagame launched Vision 2020.[1] The major purposes of the programme were to unite the Rwandan people and to transform Rwanda from a highly impoverished into a middle income country.[2]

            Rwanda managed to connect it’s country and run 2300 fiber optic network in 2009 at a cost of 95 million dollars and transform the country into 21st digital economy. 2300 kM.. We are less than 100 KM away from the Red sea where the roads are already created. What does take to dig along the Massawa and Asmara road and run fiber to bring to the city / country?

            Today, Rwanda is third or fourth in Africa for organizing and hosting conferences, after S. Africa, Morocco. How could Asmara and Eritrea wouldn’t be a desired place for such lucrative tourism.

            Eritrea was and still is one of the country that can implement such vision with ease. The government has universal approval rating, support and the population behind. No different than what Israel government enjoy support from it’s population.

            We have all the resources we need and much more to develop our economy. We should never care about Ethiopia or their 1st century politics or what have you. Focus on our own and leave them alone to mind their own business.. At worst is we secure out boarder at best, we create conductive economic opportunity that benefits both countries.

            TPLF, what ever have no power if our government looked inside and depend on it’s people and on its ability to empower the country. The damage is done 90% by our own government.

            yiAkleni….ay tibke endiyu zebkiyeni zelo….

            Our best days are ahead…..

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            bare
            Didn’t read the whole pathetic comment of urs but the first 2-3 lines of ur comment shows, u don’t have any idea about the difference between dream, wish and plans. Or as usual u trying to show how eris r clueless pathetic.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berihu,

            I agree with what you said. EPLF instead of coming to its people, it weakened the young country by exposing it to its bad wishing friends. EPLF because of this ambiguity made it plan silly and unworkable. In Eritrea we need to love each other before we love our neighbors. As long as we plan to make changes through collaboration with ambiguous neighbors, we are doomed to become the victims. Unfortunately, that is what is happening even now as we speak.

          • sara

            selam ato haile,
            no wonder such comments are coming from the literary city with those nice places now under deep lock dawn.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sara,

            እዛ ዘረባኺ ቅኔ ዘለዋ ኮይና ተሰሚዓትኒ! Anyway, now I am not living in the place you are imagining, but in a very similar place also on complete lockdown. Talking about that wonderful place, have you seen on the news of 400km traffic jam because of the curfew? Creating a very big problem to avoid a problem. Asmara is the same in a different way. No unauthorised vehicle circulated and those allowed. Based on an article by Thomas Mountain in TN, quoting “for some, this has been hardship and hunger has shown its faces here”. If Mr Mountain admits this, it means there is a very big big problem.
            Eritrea’s way of combatting the pandemic is far from perfect either. In a very basic subsistance economy, closing everything without any type of compensation is accumulating susceptibility to the virus. For example, instead of shutting taxis, a mandatory one passager measure could have been taken.

            ሳርቺ፡ ንዓኺ ዘይኮነስ፡ ነቶም ኣመሓደርትና እዚኣ ክብሎም ፍቐድለይ። ምስ ይቕሬታ

            ባልዕ ንምቕታል ንተቐባል ባልዕ ምቕታል
            (killing the host to kill the parasite)

            ቁማል ንምጥፋእ ምል’ጻይ ሓደ መንገዲ
            ዓበቕ ንምጥፋ፡ ተጎሮኻ ምጽራይ ቀንዲ

            ሓቢ ንምጥፋእ ግና ኣይትጾምን ኣጥሚኻ ክትቀትሎ
            ንባዕልኻ ቅድሚኡ ብጥሜት መታን ከይትዕሎ

            ከምኡ’ውን ንኮቪድ19 እንተዘይሰሪሕካ ዘይበሊዕካ ንሓዋሩ
            መከላኸሊኡ ዝኸውን ዘይብልካ ክትጥቃዕ ኢኻ ብስሩ

            ጽሑፍ ኣብ TN ርእየ ብዛዕባ ኮቪድ19 ዘዕለለ
            ምርዳእ ኣብዩኒ እንተገላበጥኩ ከቢቡኒ ከም ዕንጉለ

            ረኽበዮ ኮይኑ ዝመልኦ ትምክሕቲ
            ይብል
            “ንሕና ንበልጽ ካብ ኩላ ዓለም ምልእቲ”
            ኩሉ ስለዝዓጸና ኮቪድ ካይዕንብብ ምእንቲ

            ኮቪድ እንተኣዝሓልካ ካይመላእካ ከብድኻ
            ኣይትረሰዓዮ ትዕድሞ ከም ዘለኻ ናብ ልሙዕ ሻኻ

          • Selam Berhe Y.,
            NO! To use your own words, mussolini was much much better for eritrea than for ethiopia. That is why your ancestors fought for him to keep italian colonialism in eritrea during WWII. Moreover, they fought in Libya and Somalia to realize and sustain italian colonization.
            The roads were built to robe the resources of ethiopia and not for the sake of the ethiopian people. When it killed hundreds of thousands of ethiopian, cowardly used the prohibited mustard gas against ethiopians, your ancestors were fighting with them.
            Some eritreans still thank the italians for the city and the factories they were forced to leave behind. They can’t acknowledge that they were not for the indigenous population, and what they left behind is a miniscule when compared with the sacrifice that was paid during the italian colonization.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            With regards Mossolini, I was trying to copy and emulate the “bad boy Abi” and the way her responds to me, and give him the same medicine. But obviously I failed miserabley as he likes to say, because in the process I am hurting people who suffered by the Italian occupation.

            I think you also need to be sensitive to our suffering committed by the successive Ethiopian rulers.

            I will respond to you on the weekend with more details, and provide you a link so you see things from the Eritrean point of view.

            Berhe

          • Desbele

            Hi Berhe,
            The Eritrean regime has tried to narrow the gap by closing the private run schools. Typical equality by subtraction solution. Simple and lazy.

          • Saleh Johar

            Simon,
            Yes. Simple. Participatory all inclusive, transparent governance ruling over a free people. Then everything will work out fine. But first, the statuesque needs to be changes. The same situation will always result in the same outcome: unfairness

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Saleh G.,

            As far as access to University/Colleges is concerned, it’s merit based.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Under simple, participatory all inclusive, transparent gov ruling over eritrea, what will be the basis for entrance to universities/colleges other than gpa of matriculation?

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            First I am not sure if the GPS varies based on the identity of people. I do not accept that as a start for a debate. But if it is so, just for argument sake, then we have to see why it’s so and correct it. Only when there is a level playing ground we can move to your second question.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Me too not sure if the gps varies based on the identity of people. my question was not about it, my question was under simple, participatory all inclusive, transparent gov, under equal level playing ground, what will be the basis for entrance to universities ? Other than gps of matric?

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            Then be it. Let the GPA reign supreme. I am saying : if you deny a person from marrying or producing children, in any way, you cannot put a law that says i child equal i GPA point, you don’t tell people you cannot be accepted because you don’t have children to account for GPA. It’s all about fairness throughout the whole process.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Simon,

          Speaking on the “rational manner”: What could be your “rational manner” how to handle for the current unfair and injustice in all civil service in the Eritrean state, including in the area of education? Injustice and unfairness is rampant in the state of Eritrea.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            I don’t belong to any group.

            But, there is no evidence to suggest that your group, ELF-XYZ, would have been any better.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            A question is not an answer to my question. It is easy to say I don’t have answer to your question. You don’t need to go around the bush.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            There is no discrimination in education in Eritrea. I was there, you were not. If you believe there is, tell us how it’s done.

            Don’t build a career based on false allegations.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            So you are telling us that the highlanders excel the lowlanders by GPA. Are you? I haven’t seen dry arrogance like yours. Second, you took like a habit that if someone don’t agree with you, you ended your argument with insults. Can you try to improve that behavior?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            Now, you are trying diversionary tactics. Straw Man logical fallacy, to be exact.

            Good luck!

          • abdu

            Salam Simon
            You are telling Ato Amunuel he was not there and knows nothing and you were there. how about if I tell am there.
            Yes there is but first let me make clear few things

            1. my stand: to both camps of supporters and oppositions.
            to speak about what is going on in Eritrea good or bad is my basic human right so do not try to label me as TPLF sympathizer. If there is any Eritrean individuals or organizations including Muslim organization trying to attack Eritrean defense force with the help of wayane to change the government I will defend and stand for Eritrea and Eritreans including the DIA with everything that I can and opposition those who think anyone who is against TPLF is PFDJ. I am not, I never been and I will not be.

            2 Any Muslim who is God conscious (Ferah Rebi) if you were to ask him/her to stop praying one single prayer in exchange with everything he wish to have in this world will not do it

            3 please take it easy with my language skills.

            Now!
            YES THERE IS DISCRIMINATION

            in fact in our case there are two Systematic and direct
            i can give you countless outstanding Muslim students left Eritrea for Sudan and Ethiopia because of discrimination.
            Direct.
            those who had enough GPA to enroll to Medical or Engineering they were forced to enroll in area they didn’t choose. such as librarian.
            Systematic
            As I told you above they forbid them to pray and punish them if caught praying. So what choice do they have .ZEBELUKHA GBERELOM WEY REHAQELOM. so they choose to pray and leave the country.
            You said you were there that means at least you know about scholarships to other countries. How many Muslims do you know who got scholarship in the last 28 years?
            I can count them with my fingers and if it was not against their privacy I could have mentioned their names and to which countries they got.
            People blame DIA only but the Discrimination of Semere Rusom and Haile Muhxun in Education and Higher Education against Muslims is endless. if they are not worse than isayas they will not be less.

            There is vocational school 10 plus 2 known as commercial school it is in former LaSale. when they started there was quota for all ethinic. the director in that school who is known Pentecostal (who pray with his group in the school) forbid the Muslims to pray. another systematic discrimination.
            Simon I can go on and on. I will leave for you to check who get recruited from SAWA to join Air force.
            So as Saleh said try to see things from our side if not always at least sometimes will help you and together we can find solution to all of us.
            thanks
            Abdu

          • abdu

            Salam Simon
            You are telling Ato Amunuel he was not there and knows nothing and you were there. how about if I tell you am there.
            Yes there is but first let me make clear few things

            1. my stand: to both camps of supporters and oppositions.
            to speak about what is going on in Eritrea good or bad is my basic human right so do not try to label me as TPLF sympathizer. If there is any Eritrean individuals or organizations including Muslim organization trying to attack Eritrean defense force with the help of wayane to change the government I will defend and stand for Eritrea and Eritreans including the DIA with everything that I can and opposition those who think anyone who is against TPLF is PFDJ. I am not, I never been and I will not be.

            2 Any Muslim who is God conscious (Ferah Rebi) if you were to ask him/her to stop praying one single prayer in exchange with everything he wish to have in this world will not do it

            3 please take it easy with my language skills.

            Now!
            YES THERE IS DISCRIMINATION

            in fact in our case there are two Systematic and direct
            i can give you countless outstanding Muslim students left Eritrea for Sudan and Ethiopia because of discrimination.
            Direct.
            those who had enough GPA to enroll to Medical or Engineering they were forced to enroll in area they didn’t choose. such as librarian.
            Systematic
            As I told you above they forbid them to pray and punish them if caught praying. So what choice do they have .ZEBELUKHA GBERELOM WEY REHAQELOM. so they choose to pray and leave the country.
            You said you were there that means at least you know about scholarships to other countries. How many Muslims do you know who got scholarship in the last 28 years?
            I can count them with my fingers and if it was not against their privacy I could have mentioned their names and to which countries they got.
            People blame DIA only but the Discrimination of Semere Rusom and Haile Muhxun in Education and Higher Education against Muslims is endless. if they are not worse than isayas they will not be less.

            There is vocational school 10 plus 2 known as commercial school it is in former LaSale. when they started there was quota for all ethinic. the director in that school who is known Pentecostal (who pray with his group in the school) forbid the Muslims to pray. another systematic discrimination.
            Simon I can go on and on. I will leave for you to check who get recruited from SAWA to join Air force.
            So as Saleh said try to see things from our side if not always at least sometimes will help you and together we can find solution to all of us.
            thanks
            Abdu

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላማት ሳይሞን
      ስለምንታይ ድዩ ደኣ ኣነ ኣብ ማትሪክ ጠረብ ዝበልኩ!
      የግዳስ ንስኻ ትዛረብ ኣብ መሕለፊ-ነጥቢ: ካልኦት ዝብሉ ድማ ቅድሚ ናብ ማትሪክ ምብጻሕካ።
      ፖቴቶ ፖታቶ ዶ ጌርክማ ሓቀይ? 🙂

      ቅድሚ ማትሪክ ምውሳድና ኣብ ክላስና ዳርጋ ሸውዓት ዝኾኑ ተማሃሮ ኔሮም: ፍሉያት tutors ዝነበርዎም።
      ናብ ክላስ ምስ መጹ ንመምህር ዝሓትዎ ዝነበሩ ንዓይ ጠሪሱ ኣይርደኣንን ኔሩ። ደሓር ‘የ ፈሊጠ።
      ሓሙሽተ ፍሉጣት መማህራን [ካብ ቀሃስ, ካምቦኒ, ልኡል-መኮነን, ላሳለ, ኣስመራ ይኒቨርሲቲ, ወዘተረፈ.. ተኣኪቦም] ተኸፊሎም ካብ ግሬድና ንላዕሊ ይምህርዎም።
      ማትሪክ መጸት: ኩሎም >3.8 GPA ረኺቦም ንብለካ።
      ብድሕሪኡ ደኣ ነቦኻ ርገም ኴኑ። መንደኣ ሓላፍነት ክስከም?

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam MM,

        A key factor, but not the only, for success in education is taking individual responsibility for ones own fate.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Selamat Simon,
          Agree, taking individual responsibility is critical for success.
          I believe the HGDF govt doesn’t care about Eritrean education. However, the access to library and others can make a big diff as well. I am not sure if the public school system varies by locations. There was huge diff between private vs public schools education system though.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam MM,

            “She turned to me and said, “Oh! You’re one of the Nobel­Prize­winners. In what 

            field did you do your work?”

            “In physics,” I said. “Oh. Well, nobody knows anything about that, so I guess we can’t talk about it.”

            “On the contrary,” I answered. “It’s because somebody knows something about it 
            that we can’t talk about physics. It’s the things that nobody knows anything about that we
            can discuss. We can talk about the weather; we can talk about social problems; we can 
            talk about psychology; we can talk about international finance ­­ gold transfers we can’t
            talk about, because those are understood ­­ so it’s the subject that nobody knows anything 
            about that we can all talk about!”

            I don’t know how they do it. There’s a way of forming ice on the surface of the 
            face, and she did it! She turned to talk to somebody else. 

            After a while I could tell I was completely cut out of the conversation, so I got up 
            and started away. The Japanese ambassador, who was also sitting at that table, jumped up 
            and walked after me. “Professor Feynman,” he said, “there is something I should like to 
            tell you about diplomacy.” He went into a long story about how a young man in Japan goes to the university and studies international relations because he thinks he can make a contribution to his country. As a sophomore he begins to have slight twinges of doubt about what he is learning. After college he takes his first post in an embassy and has still more doubts about his understanding of diplomacy, until he finally realizes that nobody knows
            anything about international relations. At that point, he can become an ambassador! “So 
            Professor Feynman,” he said, “next time you give examples of things that everybody 
            talks about that nobody knows about, please include international relations!” He was a very interesting man, and we got to talking.

            I had always been interested in how it is the different countries and different peoples develop differently. I told the ambassador that there was one thing that always seemed to me to be a remarkable phenomenon: how Japan had developed itself so rapidly to become such a modern and important country in the world. “What is the aspect and character of the Japanese people that made it possible for the Japanese to do that?” I asked.

            The ambassador answered in a way I like to hear: “I don’t know,” he said. “I
            might suppose something, but I don’t know if it’s true. The people of Japan believed they 
            had only one way of moving up: to have their children educated more than they were; 
            that it was very important for them to move out of their peasantry to become educated. So 
            there has been a great energy in the family to encourage the children to do well in school, and to be pushed forward. Because of this tendency to learn things all the time, new ideas
            from the outside would spread through the educational system very easily. Perhaps that is
            one of the reasons why Japan has advanced so rapidly.”

            From: Surely you are.joking Mr. Feynman.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Simon!
            You have hit my soft spot. I like Prof. Feyman, not only his deep knowledge in Physics but how he lectures it.
            Say, you are in the great country of USA, it is almost you can do to your limit.
            However, it is totally different in the bizzaro world of HGDF country [well, it is hgdf’s country because they make it NOT ours]
            BTW, you, Saleh G., Prof Emma, KoKhobay, Desbele, Birhan, Fanti and Sami our neighbor have some critical item in common. I won’t tell till ድሕሪ ዓራርርቦ ህግደፍ

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam MM,

            I hope you would like this interesting episode that occurred when Feynman was a young Ph.D. student under the supervision of Wheeler at Princeton:

            “Wheeler and I thought the next problem was to turn to the quantum theory of
            electrodynamics, which had difficulties (I thought) with the self­action of the electron.

            We figured if we could get rid of the difficulty first in classical physics, and then make a 
            quantum theory out of that, we could straighten out the quantum theory as well.

            Now that we had got the classical theory right, Wheeler said, “Feynman, you’re a 
            young fella ­­ you should give a seminar on this. You need experience in giving talks. Meanwhile, I’ll work out the quantum theory part and give a seminar on that later.”

            So it was to be my first technical talk, and Wheeler made arrangements with Eugene Wigner to put it on the regular seminar schedule. A day or two before the talk I saw Wigner in the hall. “Feynman,” he said, “I think that work you’re doing with Wheeler is very interesting, so I’ve invited Russell to the seminar.” Henry Norris Russell, the famous, great astronomer of the day, was coming to the lecture! 

            Wigner went on. “I think Professor von Neumann would also be interested.”
            Johnny von Neumann was the greatest mathematician around. “And Professor Pauli is
            visiting from Switzerland, it so happens, so I’ve invited Professor Pauli to come” ­­ Pauli 
            was a very famous physicist ­­ and by this time, I’m turning yellow. Finally, Wigner said, “Professor Einstein only rarely comes to our weekly seminars, but your work is so interesting that I’ve invited him specially, so he’s coming, too.”

            By this time I must have turned green, because Wigner said, “No, no! Don’t 
            worry! I’ll just warn you, though: If Professor Russell falls asleep ­­ and he will 
            undoubtedly fall asleep ­­ it doesn’t mean that the seminar is bad; he falls asleep in all the 
            seminars. On the other hand, if Professor Pauli is nodding all the time, and seems to be in 
            agreement as the seminar goes along, pay no attention. Professor Pauli has palsy.”
            I went back to Wheeler and named all the big, famous people who were coming to 
            the talk he got me to give, and told him I was uneasy about it. “It’s all right,” he said. “Don’t worry. I’ll answer all the questions.”

            So I prepared the talk, and when the day came, I went in and did something that 
            young men who have had no experience in giving talks often do ­­ I put too many 
            equations up on the blackboard. You see, a young fella doesn’t know how to say, “Of
            course, that varies inversely, and this goes this way. . .” because everybody listening 
            already knows; they can see it. But he doesn’t know. He can only make it come out by 
            actually doing the algebra ­­ and therefore the reams of equations. As I was writing these equations all over the blackboard ahead of time, Einstein 
            came in and said pleasantly, “Hello, I’m coming to your seminar. But first, where is the 
            tea?” I told him, and continued writing the equations.

            Then the time came to give the talk, and here are these monster minds in front of
            me, waiting! My first technical talk ­­ and I have this audience! I mean they would put 
            me through the wringer! I remember very clearly seeing my hands shaking as they were 
            pulling out my notes from a brown envelope. 

            But then a miracle occurred, as it has occurred again and again in my life, and it’s
            very lucky for me: the moment I start to think about the physics, and have to concentrate 
            on what I’m explaining, nothing else occupies my mind ­­ I’m completely immune to 
            being nervous. So after I started to go, I just didn’t know who was in the room. I was only 
            explaining this idea, that’s all.

            But then the end of the seminar came, and it was time for questions. First off, Pauli, who was sitting next to Einstein, gets up and says, “I do not sink dis teory can be right, because of dis, and dis, and dis,” and he turns to Einstein and says, “Don’t you agree, Professor Einstein?”

            Einstein says, “Nooooooooooooo,” a nice, German­ sounding “No,” ­­ very polite. “I find only that it would be very difficult to make a corresponding theory for gravitational interaction.” He meant for the general theory of relativity, which was his baby. He continued: “Since we have at this time not a great deal of experimental evidence, I am not absolutely sure of the correct gravitational theory.” Einstein appreciated that things might be different from what his theory stated; he was very tolerant of other ideas.

            I wish I had remembered what Pauli said, because I discovered years later that the 
            theory was not satisfactory when it came to making the quantum theory. It’s possible that 
            that great man noticed the difficulty immediately and explained it to me in the question, but I was so relieved at not having to answer the questions that I didn’t really listen to 
            them carefully. I do remember walking up the steps of Palmer Library with Pauli, who 
            said to me, “What is Wheeler going to say about the quantum theory when he gives his
            talk?” I said, “I don’t know. He hasn’t told me. He’s working it out himself.”
            “Oh?” he said. “The man works and doesn’t tell his assistant what he’s doing on 
            the quantum theory?” He came closer to me and said in a low, secretive voice, “Wheeler 
            will never give that seminar.” And it’s true. Wheeler didn’t give the seminar. He thought it would be easy to work out the quantum part; he thought he had it, almost. But he didn’t. And by the time the seminar came around, he realized he didn’t know how to do it, and therefore didn’t 
            have anything to say.

            I never solved it, either ­­ a quantum theory of half­-advanced, half­-retarded
            potentials–and I worked on it for years.”

            From: Surely you are joking, Mr. Feynman.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Thanks for this, Simon!
            You gave me a push to reread few pages from my few selection of books. It had collected a lot of dust. Blame the internet 🙂
            When you have time, check this book “Perfectly Reasonable Deviations, from the beaten track.
            Few years ago, there was a co-worker who used to look like Feynman and his name was also Feynman, but found out he is not related to the famous guy.
            Just a qq: when all these people who were creating, cooperating, sharing all these ideas to each other, where were we [Africans]?
            I sometimes think our Culture is the biggest problem.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam MM,

            I read a review of the book, by Freeman Dyson. It sounds great, thank you.

            “This collection of letters shows us for the first time the son caring for his father and mother, the father caring for his wife and children, theteacher caring for his students, the writer replying to people throughout the world who wrote to him about their problems and received his full and undivided attention.” —Freeman Dyson, New York Review of Books.

            Now, comparison of the West with the Rest.

            Recall the conversation between Feynman and the Japanese ambassador. Up until around 1850 Japan was an agrarian country. It also suffered during the Shogun era (similar to the era of the Princes in Ethiopia). It is also not endowed with many raw materials. It developed so fast that it was invited to the Versailles conference at the end of World War 1, among the big powers.

            Japan developed fast by adopting a simple principle:each family vowed that their children will be better educated than themselves. Apply this principle recursively to the next generation, and to the next one after that and so on .., there will be a chain reaction of knowledge. Japan joined the West!

            The Rest (Africa, Middle East etc.) are busy conducting ethnic conflicts and medieval religious wars. They have even imported the same to America, in the form of identity politics.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Simon,

          I know someone, he is retired now. He was the only child to his mom when his father died and grew up in the village. He didn’t go to school until he was 12 years old. Then his uncle come and said to his mother let me take and I will send him to school. He ended up going to all the way to university in Ethiopia and did his masters in Europe after words. He went back and was working in all types of government ministry until he retired.

          If this person did not have the opportunity to go to school, it hard to say, he didn’t take “personal responsibility”.

          What you are talking about is, may be when in high school. But one did not have the proper training, access to education, parents who look after the well being of the child, no matter how much “responsible” the child is, hard to guess where he ends up.

          Now ask yourself, and what kind of upbringing and access to education you had. All that you, I am sure you can trace it to someone who made that possible for you at a very young age. Then the rest ..is your hard work, determination, etc..

          Free and equal public education is and should be the highest priority of any government. There is no excuse for a country to train day in and day out the young and keeping the largest useless military spending has no capacity to build schools.

          All this we “start from zero” is none sense. Eritrea had well established school system…..we were in the game for 50 years when the rebels come to run the country.

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            “Eritrea had well established school system…..we were in the game for 50 years when the rebels come to run the country.” (Berhe Yemane) .
            ይህ ታሪካዊ ንግግር በራሥ አቢ የክብር መዝገብ ሰፍሯል!

            እስቲ በሞቴ ዘፈን ምረጥና ልዝፈንልህ የኔ ልበብሩ!

          • Aligaz G

            Abi,

            They were in 3rd grade for 50 yrs before Janhoy had a fatal brain fart. lol

          • Abi

            Aligaz
            ኩኩሉ አለ ዶሮ
            ምን ሊሰማ ይሆን ጆሮ ዘንድሮ
            ለካስ ሊነጋ ነው
            ኩኩሉ ሲል የሰማነው
            ( ብዙዬ ነፍሴ)
            Please find a UNESCO publication “Education in Post Colonial Africa “. In this publication Dr Fasil GebreKiros (from AAU) has a beautifully written article on Eritrean education.

          • Aligaz G

            Abi,

            HSI had an education fetish. He put his students on a pedestal and they turned on him one by one starting from Girmame. Meles on the other with his dedeb achechabis like Genet Zewde delegetimized and watered down tertiary education in Ethiopia permanently.

          • Abi

            Aligaz
            Please don’t get me started on this topic.
            Genet Zewde used to teach “typing” and “Teaching Methodologies “ for the diploma program when she was at TTE ( Technical Teachers Education). She jumped from there to be a Minister of education in a heartbeat.
            If I remember correctly that department thingy was shut down.
            The lecturers at that department were looked down by their colleagues at Faculty of Education.
            I believe Genet never liked AAU. She fired many great professors for ብቃት ማነስ.
            Her nickname was ዮዲት ጉዲት::

          • Barbaro A.

            Selam Ali and Abnet:
            -Please,with all due respect to you both,STOP talking about your treacherous and misleading half-baked “truth”/narration.

            Your KING was a CULTIST Killer of the killers, the oppressor of the oppressors. No need to mention the evil acts of the brutal Colonel.
            It was your KING,who :

            -Looted all the major industries in Eritrea and moved them to mehal Agher.

            -Destroyed the Federal Democratic Infrastructure to ASHES,which led to the civil disobedience followed by the deadliest Armed Struggle in Africa with the “unpleasant outcome but well deserved separation of the Diamond and Gold of Ethiopia, Eritrea, from ‘Mamma Estopia”, the once upon a time source(Eritrea) of the 96% of the Ethiopian GDP.

            Blame your LOSER Cultist King and your BRUTAL Colonel, not the INNOCENT VICTIMS, the Eritreans.

            -Destroyed the Education System by trashing Tigriniya,Arabic and English and replacing them by its Colonial Language, Amharic.

            -Divided and polarized Eritrea based on Region and Religion

            -led to the mass human massacre and material destruction worth of billions of $$ in Eritrea over a period of decades and only to be worsened by his evil successor ,the brutal regime of Col Menghistu.

            Ustaz Berhe gave you hard core facts and statistics that your king and your brutal Col NEVER EVER improved but destroyed education in Eritrea( Consult the Ghengan Major/Shaleka Dawit W.,who successfully destroyed education in Eritrea).

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            Unusually, this earth shattering comment lacks zeros and exclamation marks. Looks like you spent all your zeros and exclamation marks.
            000,000,000,000,000.00!!!!!!!!!!!!
            There, I made it complete for you.
            ገንዘብካ

            Please find a ነጋሪት edition by SGJ discussing the four wobbly pillars of Propaganda that you rely upon as facts.
            PS
            Please refrain from bringing this kind of scary comments on Halloween night. I’m scared.

          • Barbaro A.

            Ok Abinet:
            Happy Halloween!

            Apologies for the” scary” comments!!

            Yes, indeed, to your dismay,Eritrea is a $ 1,000,000,000,000.00 Economy ( The potash, the Gold, The Gas and Oil, the Tourism, the Fishing and the salt industries are on their way!!!!!

            Eritra shall be better than Singapore, Israel or the Swiss of Africa once the devil is gone!!!!!!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            እንዲህ ነው እንጂ ፉከራ ካልቀረ
            በዜሮ ያጌጠ የተሽቀረቀረ!!!

            ተሸክሞ ጉራ አንጠልጥሎ ዜሮ
            ተስፋን ተንተርሶ አለምን ዞሮ ዞሮ ዞሮ
            እቤት ሲመለሱ ከእንቅልፍ ሲነቁ
            ጏዳው ባዶ ሲሆን አቤት ማሳቀቁ
            ተስፋ እውጭ ሲቀር እጅግ ማስጨነቁ
            ሃሎይን ይመስላል ለሚያየው ከሩቁ
            ራስ አቢ በተስፋ ከት ብለው ሳቁ

          • Barbaro A.

            Guaddu:
            This is NOT Gurra but facts about Eritrea ad its potential,the very reason you et al are sleepless about Eritrea and its miraculous potential.

          • Barbaro A.

            Mr. Mod:
            Thanks for your feedback but “NO thank you” for your quite well known unwarranted and cowardly threats.

            Where were you for weeks until the TPLF Cadres alerted you?

            You know exactly as why I changed my nicks before(coz u were chasing me out and banning me every time I come back to join the forum and this was ONLY for challenging you, not for abusing the forum and violating the guideline) except the current one(after being hacked and scammed many times).

            Plus, the posting guidelines do(es) NOT prohibit to change nicks but using different nicks at the same time, which I have NEVER done to my best knowledge and recall.
            My nick is Barbaro A. and I will stick to it and am not going to change it ;you neither do have a right to force me to change it at a gun point ,Mr. COWARD.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው

            Halloween Night 🎃🎃🎃 ኣሉ ጀታው!

            ያለፈው ማታ ሃሎዊን ምሽት
            በዩቱብ ነጋሪት 107 ብየ ብከፍት
            መጣብኝ የ2012 መናፍስት

            የኣቶ ሳለህ ነገር፡ እያሉ የሞተው ባካችሁ ኣታንሱ
            እሳቸው ኢንተርቢው ኣደረጉ ትላንት ከመንፈሱ

          • Abi

            መምህር
            በስመአብ እያልክ ሶስቴ አማትብ
            ሰይጣኑ እንዲሸሽ ጉልበቱ እንዲረግብ
            ቀንድ የሌለው ሰይጣን ለተንኮል ያደረ
            እልል ብያለሁ እድሜው ስላጠረ

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው፡

            ምንም ኣልነበረም ጀታው፡ ሥጋቸው ኣርጅቶ ቢኖር
            ፍላጎታችን ነውና፡ መጥፎ ምኞታቸው ተሰብሮ ቢቀር

            በመማተብ ‘ሚጠፋ ከሆነ ይህ’ሁላ ክፋት
            በጀርባየም ኣማትባለሁኝ ይቅርና ከፊት

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know you will come back, but it all started way before the backward king and the brutal derg.

            Here is the facts…

            This is the status of Eritrean school in 1961/1962 end of federation.

            Public Schools
            Asmara 17
            Hamasien 30
            Seraye 27
            Akeleguzai 32
            Keren and Sahel 30
            Aqurdet 18
            Massawa and Aseb 14
            other 4
            Total 172

            Private Schools
            Fedez misyon 5
            siwidish misyon 18
            Adventisti Mision 5
            Capuchini Mision 33
            Evangelica mision 24
            Mahber Hawarya 17
            Agazian 17
            catholic 12
            comboni college 1
            private 10
            trade school 1
            Total 143

            Total school (143+ 172) = 315

            Number of students (private school)
            male 16046
            female 6223
            Total 22269

            Number of students (public)
            Male 22440
            Female 8039
            Total 30479

            Total Students 52748

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know you are going to say, the school are all build by HSI…And here is the list and the year they were established….

            Asmara Year established
            TTI 1943
            asmara 2nd division 1952
            bet gergish 1944
            Hibret 1942
            Girls Schools 1944
            Bonevolenti 1941
            Godayif 1951
            Akria 1938
            Lutharan 1950
            Akria Eslamaia 1948
            Medeber 1953
            Babur Midri 1950
            Enda Zektam 1948
            Sembel 1958

            Awraja QeyiH Bahri
            Massawa m / center 1928
            GindaE 1944
            Emberagi 1945
            HiTemlo 1947
            Nakura 1947
            Dogali 1960
            Zula 1954
            Eirafayle 1953
            Aseb 1944
            TiEo 1944
            Bada 1954
            Eidi 1960

            Awraja Hamasien
            Adi Tekelezan 1944
            TsaEda Kirstian 1950
            TseAzega 1944
            Adi Gaedad 1947
            Misgag 1950
            SelaE DaEro 1959
            Adi Gebray 1954
            DaEro Pawlas 1952
            Zawl 1954
            Embaderho 1944
            Geremi 1954
            Shmanigus LaElay 1949
            TaErish 1951
            Adi Gebru 1954
            GesnaShm 1941
            Deqemhare 1951
            Himbarti 1942
            Adi Hawsha 1951
            Nefasit 1958
            Embayto 1945
            Weki 1947
            Zagir 1947
            Aezien 1944
            Mirera 1944
            Adi nAemn 1944
            Meqerka 1944
            weqerti 1944
            derseney 1960
            Embatkala 1961

            Awraja Seraye
            Adi wegri 1949
            Adi Kala 1943
            Dibarwa 1949
            Adi wegri kirstyan 1943
            Adi wegri Eslamiya 1946
            Kudo felasi 1949
            Adi Geda 1951
            Sheqa wedi bisrat 1945
            Aereza 1954
            Aedi Gureto 1953
            Gundet 1956
            Kudo Abuer 1958
            Durko 1943
            Qinafna 1953
            Qine-Hayla 1957
            Adi Baro 1952
            Amadir 1948
            Deqi SinAey 1948
            Tera Emni 1944
            Kisad DaEro 1953
            Adi Sbhatleab 1956
            Adi Mengoti 1959
            Bet Gebriel 1959
            HatSina 1959
            Adi Andel 1959

            Awraja Akeleguzai
            DeqmHare 1942
            Adi QeyiH 1942
            Segeneyti 1943
            SenAefe 1946
            Tselim Qelay 1958
            Forto Kaderna 1949
            KoAetit 1954
            May Edaga 1942
            Zigfet 1950
            Eigila 1958
            Halay 1951
            Hadida 1954
            Korbarya 1945
            Degra Libe 1956
            Digsa 1951
            SesaH 1946
            Adi Nebri 1946
            Akrur 1949
            Qesyas 1961
            Mono Ksyto 1949
            Legsrda 1951
            Maeraba 1943
            FuluH 1955
            Awhune 1959
            Birkito 1959
            Euna Andom 1961

            Awraja Keren
            Keren d/tebaetiyo 1941
            Keren d/ Anstiyo 1947
            Hadish Adi M / Makelay 1954
            Keren Kristiyan mebaEta 1954
            Keren Eslamya mebaEta 1926
            Biet Juk 1950
            Noro 1959
            Debre Sina 1958
            Brkantiya 1945
            deqi Aendu 1960
            Wasdenba 1955
            qerura 1954
            Shitel 1954
            Aderba 1950
            Habero 1954
            Hmra-Hmreb 1949
            Hal Hal 1945
            Hagat 1955
            QamChiwa 1944
            Seleba 1951
            Naqfa deqi tebaEtyo 1944
            Naqfa deqi Anstiyo 1961
            Afgide 1958
            AfAebet 1947
            Shariki 1959
            BeriUna 1959
            Melebso 1959
            sebenShrik 1957
            AsmaT 1947

            Awraja Aqurdet
            Aqurdet M/ Mekelay 1954
            Aqurdet deqi Anstiyo 1952
            Barentu 1944
            Teseney 1932
            Ali Gidir deqi anstyo 1944
            Ali gider mebaEta 1948
            Mensura 1959
            Adrde 1955
            Kieru 1945
            Amhajer 1945
            GuNe 1959
            Areda
            Haykota 1950
            Galuj 1944
            Tamrat 1961
            Oladon 1961
            Talta Oasher 1961

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Thanks
            I’m impressed!
            In roughly 20 years Eritrea built 315 schools ( private 143 public 172) . I tried to put the schools in the years they were established. Looks like there was a frenzy of building schools in the 40s and 50s.
            54 schools in the 40s , 10 schools during 60-61, 70 schools in the 50s. Couple of schools in the 20s and 30s.
            I need your help here.
            Your long list shows 151 schools.
            Your short list shows 315 schools.
            Which one is true?
            Something doesn’t add up and it is not my calculator.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I copied what was in the book.I tally was the total students in 1961/62. The list showed the year the school were established. It may not be a complete list of all the schools.

            What I want to show you is, Eritrea was on the path of greatness before HSI where you seem to give credit.

            In fact it make sense to me, Eritreans going to Ethiopia was basically brain drain of those Eritreans who had the education, technical skills.

            Basically, Ethiopia was taking the best and the brightest from most highland Eritrea to relocate to Ethiopia, it drove the lowland Eritrea to escape and become refugees in Sudan.

            It was doing two things:

            1) bombing and burning
            2) changing the school system from Arabic / Tigrinya – English to Amharic / English.

            And made it mandatory in Amharic, English and Math towards admission to university. Amharic accounted for 25% of the score.

            This basically cutoff most students from the lowlands and they started sending their schools to Tigrinya schools.

            And most continued in Arabic and they were looking elsewhere for higher education such as Egypt. Abi, you know how hard is (Ghis, TewlaTe Ghis, Qine Mine), it’s easier to study Shakespeare.

            Isayas continued that legacy abd come up with ethnic language BS in the process of disadvantaged the population. And then they come up with GPA none sense.

            It’s all systemic, and I wish we had nothing to do with Ethiopia.

            Yeah, Eritrea would have been Singapore if it was left alone. And it’s not really Ethiopia but the United States, where president Rosevelt met HS in the Red Sea, that our faith was sealed, and wanted to unite us.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I just asked for clarification regarding the huge discrepancy in the data you provided.Unfortunately, you flipped. As expected you got lost in different topics.
            Anyway, the list missed 164 schools out of 315. That is about 52% missing.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I just responded the list was for pubic school. The private school showing the total numbers only.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Here is a compiled list…

            1942 Eritrean Schools 19 Italian Schools 26 total 45
            1961 / 162 public 172 private 143 total 315

            1963/64 public 199 private 213 total 412
            1965 public 205 private 235 total 440
            1966 public 204 private 244 total 448
            1967 public 204 private 243 total 447
            1968 public 189 private 226 total 415
            1969 public 207 private 244 total 451
            1970 public 219 private 260 total 479
            1971 public 203 private 251 total 454
            1972 public 228 private 269 total 497
            1973 public 244 private 283 total 527

            During Derg (doesn’t show break down of private / public)
            1974 total school 472
            1975 total school 214
            1976 total school 89
            1977 total school 334
            1978 total school 102
            1979 total school 155
            1980 total school 167
            1981 total school 174
            1983 total school 201
            1984 total school 219
            1985 total school 231
            1986 total school 243
            1987 total school 280
            1988 total school 273

            1988/89 Public 152 private 82, Arts 1 Total = 235

            =====
            1942 total number of student (Italian 4883 + Eritrean 1530) Total 6,413
            1961 Total number of students 52,748
            1973 total number of student 106,948
            1988/89 total number of students 188,341
            1989/90 total number of students 176,093
            1990/91 total number of students 168,783

            Point 4 graduated in 1960 = 46, 1961 = 70
            point 4 graduated in 1972 = 91, 1973 = 62
            point 4 graduated in 1989 = 112, 1990 = 146

            Nursing graduated in 1960 = 8, 1961 = 8
            Nursing graduate in 1972 = 7, 1973=7
            Nursing graduate in 1989 = 247, 1990=236

            Early Schools and established in Eritrea.

            Sweden Wengelawit Massawa 1870
            Sweden Wengelawit Geleb 1874
            Catholic Mission Aseb 1886
            Sweden Wengelawit Beleza 1890
            Sweden Wengelawit Asmara 1891
            Schola Elementari Italian Asmara 1895
            Sweden Wengelawit Kuluk 1897
            Italian School Adi Wegri 1900
            Sweden Wengelawit Shimanugs 1901
            Sweden Wengelawit Himbrti 1903
            Sweden Wengelawit luterah Adi-kolom 1905

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Thanks for the information
            So far I gathered the following
            1). Total student population
            1961— 6413
            1990/91 — 168,783
            2) Point 4 graduates
            1961– 70
            1990 — 146
            3) Nursing
            1961- 8
            1990– 236

            Bonus
            Liverpool 1
            West Ham 1 halftime

            I will be back.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Correction:
            1942 Total 6,413
            1961 Total number of students 52,748
            1990/91 — 168,783

            And you forgot:
            1942 Eritrean Schools 19 Italian Schools 26 total 45
            1961 / 162 public 172 private 143 total 315
            1973 public 244 private 283 total 527
            1988/89 Public 152 private 82, Arts 1 Total = 235

            Do you the growth rate of private school and public school during the Eritrean administration and Ethiopian?

            During the HSI public school grew from 162 to 244. Private grew from 143 to 283.
            During Derg: public school decreased public 152 and private to 82

            Where are during Eritrean administration from 1942 to 1961 public education grew from 19 to 172 and private grew from almost zero 10 143…

            There is one factor for the large number of students..as the population grew the need also grew. Derg didn’t build any new school..zero, Nada, nothing, Zilch… in the whole time.

            Zemen Higdef…I don’t have the numbers..but be intersting to know… the status starting from scratch….

            It nationalized the Italian owned/ run private schools and converted them to public high schools…on double shift to accommodate the students. …

            Let me watch a bit of football now.

            Berhe

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Berhe Y and Abi

            1. – “I’m impressed!
            In roughly 20 years Eritrea built 315 schools ( private 143 public 172) . I tried to put the schools in the years they were established. Looks like there was a frenzy of building schools in the 40s and 50s. 54 schools in the 40s , 10 schools during 60-61, 70 schools in the 50s. Couple of schools in the 20s and 30s.
            I need your help here.”

            Please allow me to interject here. Abi you’re right, it is too many schools, too much money, in a very short time, even by American standard. But there is a simple explanation to it.

            2. – During those years, 1941 – 1961, all things considered, I doubt even if a single school was built in Eritrea. The opening of this schools became possible for the following reasons.

            3. – Remember: 1941 – 1961 was the years the Italians were defeated, the British were planning to leave the country, and Ethiopia was in its way in.

            4. – In 1940 there were about 100,000 Italians and 75,000 Italian Eritreans (mix) – 55,000 Italian Eritreans in Asmara alone. in 1946, the number of Italians was reduced to mere 38,000 – which a lot of reduction in such a short time. And the trend continued the years that followed as well.

            5. – So, between 1941 and 1961, what happened in Eritrea? Well, there were hundreds (if not thousands) vacant building left behind – former Italian schools, former Italian prisons, former Italian Police Camps, gated former Italian government residents. And between 1941 – 1961, the British Administration of Eritrean government of that time turned those buildings into the schools berhe is talking about.

            6. – Since those empty buildings were primarily in Asmara and other few big towns, many people demanded schools to be opened in their rural villages – specially the big villages with powerful positions in the government. And by the encouragement of the government and initiative of Eritrean villagers, during those years, there were many schools in rural villages that were built and financed by Eritrean villagers themselves.

            7. – For example, I’m was born and raised in a small village – like I said a thousand times. In 1964, a school was opened in my village, and at age seven, I was one of the first 20 students who went to formal school in my village for the first time. And the Middle School and high school I went to was an Italian prison; and those buildings with little modification are still serving as high schools.

            8. – Now, since I wasn’t born and raised in Asmara, Berhe Y. and Haile S can tell you the history of each school.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Semere,

            I have the advantage of referring to the book I mentioned above so, I am not making any guesses.

            What you are saying that the British converted buildings to schools was correct. Even if we take this at face value, the number of schools from 1941-50 were total 86. See the list above and I wonder what those buildings were during that time.

            Although the British helped but Eritrean people had considerable contribution as well. See examples form the book:

            “ካፒተን ስናይል ሓላፊ ትምህርቲ ኣብ ኤርትራ መንግስቲ አንግልዝ ቤት ትምህርቲ ከምዘይሰርሕ እንተኸነ ግን ህዝቢ ባዖሉ አንተሰሪሑ መማህራን ከምዝምድበሎም ንህዝቢ ምስ ገልጸ ኣብ ውሽጢ ክልተ ዓመት ናት ትሸዓተ ዓድታት ህዝቢ ዝአክል ገንዘብ ብምውጻአ ቤት ትምህርቲ ክስረሓሎም ሕቶ ኣቅረቡ::”.

            The new buildings build by HS were :
            KeHaS 2dry school today qeyiH baHri
            Kedamawi HS elementary school today Dahlak
            Agazyan elementary school today Bahti Meskerem

            Escola Vitoriyo was renamed Luul Mekonen.
            Girls school was renamed Etege Menen

            This number increased steadily during the federation time and the public school reached 172 and the private school (the most majority) were mission schools BTW, were 143 of which 10 were private (see earlier).

            As far as Asmara goes, where I grew up and did all my schooling, the only school that was build during the Derg time was Amanuel Elementay / middle school.

            All other Itlian owned mission school were confiscated and turned to public high schools such as (Camboni, Petego, Santa Ana) and Collegio LaSalle converted to university Dormitory.

            The point is, if it was left for Eritreans to mind their own business, I am sure like every where else in the world, we would have developed our selves. It was a very good start for it’s time.

            Even in the liberated areas during the Armed struggle, schools and students grew every year. It was grade 1 – 8 level and in 1976 the number of students were 306 but by 1991 the number reached 31,234.

            Berhe

          • Barbaro A

            Berhe Tsaida:
            Very proud of you for patriotism, Honesty, Objectivity, Truthfulness ,Rationalism and Balanced approach.
            But you disappointed me for your Partisan approach by ignoring the success stories by EPLF Govt , which quintupled the number of schools and Colleges minus its destructive approaches and negative impact it created on the AU and the Private / Christian run Schools .

            Surprised the Intelligent and the Text Book of the Eritrean History/ Historian, Tegadalai Cheguar Danga did not complete your list by adding the Post Independent Eritrea Schools and Colleges!

            I am also dismayed by you for labeling the top Catholic Schools including the AU as “ Italian Schools”!

            Do you have a problem with the Catholic Church, if I may ask?

            Don’t u know that the Catholic Church is the leading Lead in the BEST Education at all levels, in the BEST Healthcare and Social Justice in the world?

            Granted, temahirka Alokha due to your over all Innocence and Rationility!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            If you can just give the benefit of the doubt and polity ask before you come to conclusion.

            As brotherly advise, before I forget I recommend you a book by Dale Carnegie titled, how to make friends and influence people. My recommendation is an honest thought, that you can benefit from. As we say, ab rEsi libKa.

            1) To get back to you. I don’t know what the numbers and what the statistics of Education in Eritrea is after independence. In case you miss it, this is based on a book published in 1997 and its from 1942 – until 1991. It does report the Eritrean students in liberated Eritrea. In short I don’t know and I really would like to know.

            2) I don’t have a problem with catholic or saying catholic, I don’t know why you jump to conclusions. It said Italian school and I wrote it as such, all error / omissions are mine and was not intentional. I had the book for 20 years, and I decided to share because, people who should know better, like Simon Kaleab [GPA] and you [Affirmative action] and Abi reminding us that all our education was [ the gift of his king].

            I did list in the private school in 1942 the name of the schools as it appear in the book.

            2) As for information, like you say you can’t be more catholic than the pope. I studied in catholic school and when it comes to Timhirti Kiristos, I know I can beat you hands down, I never got less than 99 in that class:). I am orthodox how ever, nothing but respect to the best and brightest Fratelo teachers that I had.

            3) I don’t know what you wanted me to give credit to the PFDJ government. We had one university and he closed it. How can you expect me to praise darkness, when there is light. The worst thing thus regime has done is closing the higher learning and education in Eritrea. We are back to dark ages, and it will be huge consequences for our future.

            Watch the clips from non other the president and what he thinks about our country.

            Here talking about the airport
            https://youtu.be/up_sbOJUAiw

            Here talking about our ports
            https://youtu.be/wGV5MgxE17U

            I will find you the clip talking about the quality of education in Eritrea in the past 20 years.

            Then you tell if it’s worth a praise. Who am I to judge when the president said “the last 20 years it was a waste of time” and we produced nothing when it comes to education.

            Berhe

          • Barbaro A.

            Slam berhe:
            I posted extensive links on ‘Post Independence Education in Eritrea”but was removed as a SPAM after I spent an hour and half of research and writing my comment since this is a serious topic(this is abuse and insanity).
            FYI:

            Refer to wikipedia,UNICEF and the UNDP/WHO sites.

            -There are now :
            1)Two Univ in Eritrea officially as of July 20209(The AU and the EIT)and SEVEN Colleges

            2)835 Schools

            3)245,000 Students

            4)The internationally recognized official Literacy Rate in Eritrea is 93%( top in Africa).

            This is despite sanctions, sabotages of al kinds, containment and isolation and the mis-governance of the PFDJ Govt.

            The Finnish and the Norwegian High Education Group did a great job on the status of education in Eritrea and about its BRIGHT future–being handled by the Finnish Min of Education.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            If this happened in Eritrea and education has improved by this much in the last 30 years, it’s really great.

            So you are saying:
            .

            As per the book that I was referring, the largest number of students recorded from 1942 – 1991 is as follows:

            1988/90
            Total number of schools: 273
            Total number of students: 188,751

            Now you are saying,
            835 schools
            245,000 students..

            So the school numbers increased by 3 folds (273 – 835) but the number of students increase only be 30% from ( 188,751 – 245,000).

            Does this make sense to you?

            Here is the president in his own words talking about education in Eritrea in the last 20 years ….go to 1:15 mark and here is what he says
            https://youtu.be/tf_6HrP-Y24

            ዝሓለፈ 20 ዓመታት ዳርጋ ብኽሳራ ክንከዶ ዝጸናሕና፥ ዝዓበየ ክሳራ ናህና ናይ ትምህሪቲ መደባት እዩ። ዓመት ዓመት ልዕሊ 10 ሸሕ መንእሰይ ትምህርቱ ወዲኡ ኣብ ዝኾዶ፡ እንታይ ኢኻ ትብሎ የብሉን። እንታይ ተማሂሩ፥ ኣንታይ ሞያ ሒዙ ፡እንታይ ክስረሕ ይኽእል ድሕሪ 12 ዓመት እንዲሕሪ ኢላካ፥ ደገርም ነገራት ኢዩ፥፥ ክንደይ ዝአክል ካብቲ ዝመሃር ዘሎ መንእሰይ ናብ ዝለዓለ ደረጃ ይኽይድ እንድሕር ኢልካኒ ልዖሊ 15ሚእታዊት ኣይሓልፍን እዩ::

            I don’t know who to believe you or the president?

            Berhe

          • Barbaro A.

            Ya Ustaz Berhe:
            Why should you believe me rather than my sources?
            I am not making them up.
            I picked up on you on two things:
            1)1988/90
            Total number of schools: 273
            Total number of students: 188,751.
            The 188,75 figure is from 1988-1990.
            The Wikipedia figure sounds to be in 2020 alone per my understanding.
            2)”ዝሓለፈ 20 ዓመታት ዳርጋ ብኽሳራ ክንከዶ ዝጸናሕና፥ ዝዓበየ ክሳራ ናህና ናይ ትምህሪቲ መደባት እዩ። ዓመት ዓመት ልዕሊ 10 ሸሕ መንእሰይ ትምህርቱ ወዲኡ ኣብ ዝኾዶ፡ እንታይ ኢኻ ትብሎ የብሉን። እንታይ ተማሂሩ፥ ኣንታይ ሞያ ሒዙ ፡እንታይ ክስረሕ ይኽእል ድሕሪ 12 ዓመት እንዲሕሪ ኢላካ፥ ደገርም ነገራት ኢዩ፥፥ ክንደይ ዝአክል ካብቲ ዝመሃር ዘሎ መንእሰይ ናብ ዝለዓለ ደረጃ ይኽይድ እንድሕር ኢልካኒ ልዖሊ 15ሚእታዊት ኣይሓልፍን እዩ::”

            Add to the quote what PIA said about Aseb and Massawa…
            “:Where is Aseb now?

            “Where is Massawa,the former Lul/Diamond of the Red Sea,now”?

            “We are same people and country”.

            “Without exaggeration, I say that you, Dr. AAA, are our leader”.

            ‘He who believes that both countries and peoples are different is only Asha/naïve/dumb”.

            The Opposition,Berhe included, has read PIA out of context, in my opinion.
            I understood it that he was blaming the 20 yrs old sanctions and sabotages on the failure of our Education System and the infrastructure, which is true besides the PFDJ’s failures due to its reckless diplomatic, economic and politics messy approaches.

            On the flip side, even though it is so unfair to say, as “sadist” as he is or might sound to be, if you believe that he is the enemy of Eritrea, what do you expect your enemy to do for you?

            I posted the figures to complete your list.
            If PIA’s figures are correct that 10K students (up to 20K is the real figure)graduate every year from High School, multiply that by 30 yrs and that figure is ONLY for High School Grads.
            But the point is not about the mere figures but that over all, Education has improved in Eritrea despite the ups and downs due to multiple internal and external factors.
            there is no doubt that the regime destroyed the Higher Education System some how.
            As a Health Professional and Intellectual, I was shocked and saddened by the role of the Regime for destroying the fast-advancing Post-Grad Schools of Medicine and Surgery, when these fields were supposed to make Eritrea the Medical Tourism Hub of Africa within 10 years of their inception per the joint and ambitious dreams of the late Dr. Saleh Mekki,Professor Haile Mezghebe and the World renowned Medical Scientist, Prof Dr. Haile Debbas of the Sanford Univ Med Center of California, in collaboration the George Washington Univ and the Washington Univ. of St Luis, Missouri among others including top notch Universities for Italy and Germany.

            Am sure that Professors Haile Debbas and Haile Mezghebe know the details and am quite sure that both Professors have been disappointed and decided to pack up and run away and stay quite….

            I don’t know about the details but I heard that PIA directly banned those sponsors accusing them as the CIA Agents and for not living up to their promises to fund the programs.
            This is just to warn you that might be quite aware about the destructive role of the regime.
            But the focus should be:
            1)By learning form our past mistakes and weaknesses, what can we do moving forward?

            2)Why have we allowed and still allowing this Monster to do what he is doing if we believe that he is the major culprit?

            3)If that is the case, that we believe that he is a “sadist” Leader and the Numero uno “enemy of Eritrea and Eritreans” like Gen Mesfin Hagos declared it, why have we failed to block him?

            Repeating and litanizing his mistakes and alleged crimes daily and barking like crazy and rabid Dogs about his mistakes, crimes, and failures and blaming him and finger-pointing at him ain’t going to be the solution.

            Do I make some sense to you?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            Thank you Hope. The year should be 88/89, I made a mistake. I pick that number (which was the largest number) and 89/90 actually the number went down.

            The number is total number of students (1-12), so assuming the Eritrean population has not increased in the past 50 years…having a number 245,000 I think is reasonable.

            What I am surprised is, and where I find the number of schools a bit too hard to believe and very exaggerated, unless they were counting something else. How come the number of the schools can be so high 835 and yet the total number hasn’t increased that much.

            Wikipedia is not all accurate as anyone can edit/ write comments they fit their purpose. The only way to verify for it’s accuracy is, to find out from true published sources.

            Berhe

          • Barbaro A.

            Selam Ustaz Berhe:

            Thanks for the feedback and response.
            “Wikipedia is not all accurate as anyone can edit/ write comments they fit their purpose. The only way to verify for it’s accuracy is, to find out from true published sources”.
            I partially agree with you but I gave you options to verify it from the UNICEF,UNDP, and related org.

            I would challenge you same way you did to “my figures” about the veracity of your sources.
            TN through Prof Fikre-Yesus Amhatsion of Adi-keyih Univ College of Social Sciences, Archaeology and Anthropology has reported a wonderful and unsolicited Scientific Statistics(may be a bit biased?)on this Vital Statistics and Figures on Education and Health,which I cannot post here being from the Tesfanews.Com (aka here as ” Enda-Siwaa).

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            I am not trying to challenge you for the sake of challenging. If you think the schools have increased by that much, I can say it’s great.

            The figures I gave you is, from a published book, it has the numbers and it’s figures and a lot more details. So I don’t know how it’s not be believed.

            For example, other than the collages, May Nefhi, Sawa and and other high schools/ colleges, is there any new school build in Asmara for example, in Keren, and other cities?

            I don’t know…I am just asking…

            Please try to understand, I am not blaming the teachers, the school administrators, the education minister or anyone who is working hard to make sure the students get the education they need and deserve.

            My issue is with the actual policy / and who is in charge of the country affairs.

            Berhe

          • Barbaro A.

            Berhe:
            I could bombard you with figures and statistics from the GoE and third parties but you won’t believe in them or trust them.

            So, what is the point of bringing up those figures?
            Plus, you have all the access that I have and the burden of proof will rely on you in that regard.

            Conclusion:
            Despite all the ups and downs/challenges, the sanctions, the sabotages, the endless external and internal interferences including the PFDJ mess, RELATIVELY SPEAKING AND COMPARED TO MOST OTHER third world nations/Africans MAINLY, Eritrea and Eritreans have done a SUPERB job on improving Education and Public Health Care System in Eritrea, which has/have been proven by Independent Observers.

            Since I said more than enough about the PFDJ failures in a very HYPERBOLIC way including while dealing directly with you before, where I provided you with every detail you want to know based on reliable sources, am not going to delve into those partisan negative issues.

            The FOCUS should be on :
            How to expedite to get the past-due change we deserve thereby to reclaim what belongs to us and to compensate for the lost opportunities.

            We know our problems and the solutions but we have failed how to solve them (Effective Strategies).

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            I could have bombarded you with figures and statistics from the GoE and third parties but you won't believe in them or trust them.

            So, what is the point of bringing up those figures?

            If it’s accurate I will be believe it. You asked me, why I didn’t include the numbers of schools after Eritrean independence and I told you that I don’t know. If you are asking me to research, wikipedia, Eritrean government website, interview etc..I don’t know if it adds value and I don’t have that kind of skills and expertise.

            I agree we should focus on solving our problems.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            In politics as a rule, oppositions focus on the shortages and failures of the governments. Otherwise If they sing on the success of a governments, they are not political opposition. Oppositions are the mirrors on the failure of the ruling parties as oppose to success of the ruling parties. So be reminded with whom you are engaging.

            Regards

          • David Samson

            Selam,
            Not in Eritrean politics!
            I always laugh with myself whenever I recount or remember this quote.

            “Yes, you can criticise our government, but first you have to pay your national duty of 2%”.

            Initially, I was trying to reason out with EPLF (Not PFDJ at the time) woman, but not to avails. As usual with the unreasonable zombies, you end up on confrontation. Years later, I met the same woman and was taking the mickey out of her. I always remember that encounter with fondness.

            In the land of PFDJ, how and when to oppose IA is being decided by the same person—IA.

            Sultan or Barbaro, as his latest gadget is on the same league as that woman. He skims the comment section, then, acts as a guardian of Awate and instructs people what to write or not. Even the Mekhete warrior, aka, Semere Tesfai, is not immune from Sultan’s censorships: you are too soft on PFDJ. As he has on the habit of changing his name, I suggest to him to use “Padre” which fist well with his overseeing the Awate pages.

            There are also some old and educated fools, such as the good DR Berhe, who pleaded with IA to bring changes. How any sane person could contemplate and think he could request IA to change his ways? Since his infamous interview, he went on hiding and probably resigned to retire in the USA.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            The number of schools Hope provided is very reasonable. He is uncharacteristically being very conservative on his numbers. I expected no less than 1000 schools and 1,000,000 students.
            100 universities and colleges…

          • Abi

            Hello King Sultan
            Your Greatness
            How is a study be a scientific and biased at the same time. Only in your bizarre kingdom.
            Where is SGJ when you need him the most?
            Sometimes I feel sorry for him. His lectures fall on deaf ears.
            Please refer to the current Negarit discussing “The difference between Propaganda and public relations”.
            ገንዘብካ

          • Saleh Johar

            Abi,
            I am here but just having difficulty learning the new logic. I am amazed at how advanced they are on the sciences and logic. I can’t say anything now because I am studying hard to pass the exams. I suggest you do the same, learn 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            Glad to learn that I’m not the only one who failed to see the new logic.
            “Scientific and Biased “ in the same breath.
            በስመአብ

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi and Saleh,

            You guys failed because you failed to read fully what Barbaro wrote. Instead you went into splitting hairs 🙇🏿 looking for the obvious lice 😁

            [TN through Prof Fikre-Yesus Amhatsion of Adi-keyih …… reported a wonderful and unsolicited Scientific Statistics(may be a bit biased?)….]

            Unsolicited among others means voluntary, gratuitous, unprompted, spontaneous, unwelcome etc … Thus exaggerated.

            The mistake Barbaro committed was first inserting the word “wonderful” and second for not saying “may be a lot biased”.

            I like my Barbaro when he comes as he sometimes does brandishing his sword like Conan the Barbarian ! 😁

          • Abi

            መምህር
            Are you saying we are nitpicking?
            Just like you I like King Bravado:)
            One of my favorite people in this nation.

          • Barbaro A.

            Abinet:
            Amohal endie?
            I thought u r a Linguist besides being familiar with Research and Scientific Articles!!

            Adding a clause saying” May be a bit biased” pointing at the Author as a human being to have a certain bias disqualifies a Scientific Article ?
            Figures and numbers do NOT lie, which makes Prof Fikre-Yesus’ Articles to be scientific since he ONLY reported the exact figures and numbers.
            Am not talking about skewing and bias in Scientific Research!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            እስቲ አሁን ማን ይሙት እኔን ያላመመኝ ጊዜ አለ? አላስተዋልክም ማለት ነው::

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            I found your explanation reasonable. I’m sure the author of the book has done a comprehensive research on the topic. Let us wait if Hawna Berhe is kind enough to share with us what he found in the book.
            In the mean time let me tell you a similar story like yours.
            In Addis there is a high school around Popolare ( it is a neighborhood). This high school, the name is ሺመልስ ሃብቴ , used to be a prison before the government built ከርቸሌ. The school has two campuses across each other with a ten meters road between them ( I measured it myself). I was involved in a small study that was focusing on “School Physical Plant “ when I was at IER. The fighting between ministry of education and Addis Ababa municipality was worse than your fight against derg. The municipality refused to reroute the busy road that was between the two campuses.
            The most depressing school in the world. Small windows, dark corridors…
            I wish Eyob Medhane showed up for a minute. He went to that school.

            IER = Institute of Educational Research.
            Always nice to hear from a ጨጏር ዳንጋ

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Thank you for this historical record – the establishment of the Eritrean schools most of them during the British rule. The accounts of the Eritrean schools by the author, Iooks authentic by just checking the establishment of the school in my village “Deqi sinAey 1948.”

            Thank you again.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Since you and I know where Deqi TsinAey is, can you please let Semere T. know if the school established there was left over from Italian building or it’s something the village or the administration build?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Long live to Aboy Belata Kahsay Malu, who worked very hard during the British rule and convinced them to build a school to serve not only Deki TsineAy but also to serve to other seven villages around our village. Besides, he also convinced the British rule to construct a road from Halhale (a small village on the road of Asmara to Mendefera) to Adi Nahbay in the same year – a year before that fateful year to be killed by the conspiratorial act of the Ethiopian government.

            A brief background of Aboy Belata Kahsay Malu: he was one of the few Eritreans from the Serae province who was arguing Eritrean for the Eritreans. My village was a unionist except him and few Muslim inhabitants. Actually, if I am not wrong he was the only Christian the district of Zelema who had that stand. He was Mislene (DO) of the district of Zelema when he was killed.

          • Barbaro A.

            Selam Berhe:
            “Eritrea had well established school system…..we were in the game for 50 years when the rebels come to run the country.” (Berhe Yemane).
            I think TN.Com guys would jump on you and kill you by bombarding with figures, statistics and graphs-in the name of Eritrea though,not in the name of the PFDJ..
            The AU issue is a personalized issue by PIA to retaliate against the AU Univ Students for challenging him coz as PIA declared it, anyone, who challenges him is his enemy.
            I will post the statistics and the charts and graphs.

    • Barbaro A

      Simon:
      I think there is some” Affirmative Action” as well….as much as some hidden discrimination.
      But I doubt it(which would be INSANE to do so) that there is a deliberate discrimination at College Level Entrance by deliberately giving higher GPA to the Highlander but a lower score for the Lowlanders-like a certain Amanuel Hidrat is trying to tell us, the DUMBEST argument I have ever heard.

      The major problem is the unbalanced early and higher better education opportunity, where the Highlanders have a selective advantage over the the Lowlanders for obvious reasons including the Top Rated Private Schools for the Highlanders/Christians.

      That is why the cruel regime has closed the Private Schools and introduced the SAWA High School Program in the name of giving equal educational opportunities for ALL…
      The other major obstacle to improving quality education to the lowlanders is the Socio-cultural and Religious Taboo, which the few Muslim elite is trying to ignore.

      • Abi

        King Sultan
        Please go through the list of schools that were established before the 1961 and see the distribution of schools in Eritrea. Check if the Italians gave priorities to highlanders.
        Berhe generously provided us with a comprehensive list of schools built until 1961.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Abi,

          I have a book just reviewing with me. The title is “Timhitu ab Eritrea/Schools in Eritrea”, by teacher Mehari Woldemariam.

          In 1942, at the first year of the British Administration, there were 19 elementary school, of which 6 were Arabic and the rest were in Tigrinya. The total number of students was 1530 with 440 in Arabic roughly 30 percent.

          If nothing changes, we would expect at least the number should be in the range, minimum of 30% but that’s not the case today.

          Hope,
          No body needs “affirmative action” but at least restore what was there.

          Berhe

          • Barbaro A

            Berhe:
            I disagree partially on the need of an Affirmative Action coz students from Denkalia, Sahil and Gash Barca cannot be expected to score similar GPA to those of the Allegedly Advantaged Highlander’s and I heard that the College Entrance GPA for those “ disadvantaged” students was below the average of those “ Advantaged” Highlander’s, which would make sense !
            If that is not the case, then there is an indirect or systemic discrimination .
            This is until things go “ Back to where they were ”, me thinks.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            There are only 9 schools listed until and including 1942. ( check the long list)
            Please also provide the numbers of schools established between 1961-1961 if it is included in the book. It will give us a better perspective.
            When was this book published?

            There is a huge discrepancy between the total number of schools you provided (315) and the number of schools appeared on the long list (151).

            Thanks

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            The list is for the public school. I counted the numbers again on the book (I may have missed when I typed some), and it’s 153 out of the 172.

            The list does not include the private school where I listed earlier the breakdown of those schools.

            The book was published in 1997.

            Yes there is data of the schools from 1961 – 1973 (HS) and then until 1991.

            I will send the summary..so we have an idea.

            So this Eritrea starting from scratch after liberation is total non sense. It’s discredit the hard work of the Eritrean teachers, parents and communities who worked hard to help educate the people despite all obstacles.

            There was also technical and vocational schools such as:
            Agriculture
            wood working
            mechanic
            metal
            drafting
            public administration
            education
            accounting
            law
            municipality
            hygiene
            medicine
            nursing

            In 1942/1051 on top of the Tigriana/ Arabic school there were also Italian schools who were giving education pre-university such as medicine, economics, philosophy, engineering and math.

            The British revived the education system and provided materials, and allocated budget and gave training to teachers.

            Berhe

        • Barbaro A

          Abisha:
          I saw the list and am impressed.
          But was talking about post-colonial Education in Eritrea, when the Highlander’s/ Christians had a better opportunity / advantage due to the Private/ Missionary Schools even though lots of Muslims were beneficiaries of those Private Schools, specially from those run by the Catholic School System.
          Lots of well to do Muslims including Enda Sidi were too beneficiaries of the Keren St Joseph School( La Salle).
          The likes of SAAY were the beneficiaries of Comboni School of Asmera.
          To my best knowledge, the Catholic School System never discriminates any student in any form or old rom any background.

        • Barbaro A

          Selam Ali and Abnet:
          -Please,STOP talking about your treacherous and misleading half-baked “truth”/narration.
          Your KING was a CULTIST Killer of the killers, the oppressor of the oppressors. No need need to mention the evil acts of the brutal Colonel.
          It was your KING,who :

          -Looted all the major industries in Eritrea and moved them to mehal Agher.

          -Destroyed the Federal Democratic Infrastructure to ASHES,which led to the civil disobedience followed by the deadliest Armed Struggle in Africa and the “unpleasant outcome but well deserved separation of the Diamond and Gold of Ethiopia, Eritrea, the once upon a time source of the 96% of the Ethiopian GDP.

          Blame your LOSER Cultist King and your BRUTAL Colonel, not the INNOCENT VICTIMS, the Eritreans.

          -Destroyed the Education System by trashing Tigriniya,Arabic and English and replacing them by its Colonial Language, Amharic.

          -Divided and polarized Eritrea based on Region and Religion
          -led to the mass human massacre and material destruction worth of billions of $$ in Eritrea over a period of decades and only to be worsened by his evil successor ,the brutal regime of Col Menghistu.

          Ustaz Berhe gave you hard core facts and statistics that your king and your brutal Col NEVER EVER improved but destroyed education in Eritrea( Consult the Ghengan Major/Shaleka Dawit W.,who successfully destroyed education in Eritrea).

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Barbaro A,

        First you could make your argument without insults. I have good ears and am capable to make my argument. But what part of argument is the “Dumbest” pertinent to education that you are arguing about? I didn’t share my view on the GPA’s you guys are debating. Unless you are from those who change their pen names frequently, welcome to Awate nation.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Selamat Prof. Emma,
          This is the same guy hope/King Sultan or whatever.
          This is the guy who turns to be an opposition any time when some thing about Catholic is a subject. Zero principle.
          If Vatican know about him, they would disown him.
          From Eritrean religious group, the most stand up institution [openly] is the catholic church [ሓውኻ ኣበይ ‘ሎ?]. He has no resemblance to that. Shame on him.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            You are right. The problem is with the moderators. Why do they allow him to come with multiple nicknames to denigrate people is mind boggling. They know his mission as to why is here. Having him and some others, this forum will never be a clean. Those good debaters who are gone, are gone for good. It is sad.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat SaleH
    So, on this particular article, are you being a sells or marketing man? 🙂

    • Saleh Johar

      MM.
      smart! Neither, I am in the middle where the PFDJ is. I am calling people to come to the middle and face their demon. Deal with it decisively 🙂

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Sir.

    It came late to this page since I sae it in You-tube..Nice and You are energetic..And very nice..

    KS,,..

  • Brhan

    Hello Saleh
    “But there is no difference between propaganda, public relations, and advertisement”

    I disagree with the above and say there is signficant difference between the three.

    Propoganda is one way and done by manipulating

    Advertising is also one way and is paid.

    Public relations is two way and with with no payment:

    The public always want to know what an organization product or service is, its benefits and uses. Here journalists go to the organization and through media conference they get the info which they will provide to the public. No payment. An organization has a responsibility to make the public aware of its services and goods.

    PR officers use adverstising because the nature of competitive market. They have to convince that their product or service the best and beside their PR campaign, the find that advertising has more tools of convincing. They pay, public opinion leaders or those who have huge impact on ordinary people , like actors/acteress sports persons. Also they pay for space in print/audio/video media.

    Thanks

    • Saleh Johar

      Yes Brhan,
      Look at it within context and it’s can be seen as subjective. It’s fine to disagree. Now let me give you a scenario:

      1. Advertising is more of selling you emotions, it’s manipulation to make you buy or opt for whatever the advertiser is offering. It’s manipulation and rarely honest, particularly in the last fifty or so years. I know what advertisement does, I just consider it some sort of manipulation.

      2. A company manufactures a medicine. The medicine caused many people to die. The company has a PR department. Its job will be how to manipulate the callers by telling them stuff like, no comment, we will come back to0 you, or we are investigating the case. They will never tell them straight face, we made a mistake, go and sue us. In short, the PR is to protect the interest and reputation of the company, not the public. EreTV is the PR arm of the PFDJ and at the same time its propaganda tool.

      3. If you think propaganda is not paid for, think again 🙂 But I didn’t talk about the topic in financial terms or what it costs, it’s more about its effects on the receiver.

      Thank you

      • Brhan

        Hello Saleh,
        Public Relations which is about creating and preserving good relations between an organization and its publics, includes ethics, social responsibility and public opinion.
        If a medicine manufacture company’s public relations practitioner were not honest they are who to be blamed and not public relations.
        I agree if you mean by subjectivity or objectivity with regard to some of its practioners and not to the practice itself.
        Public relations’ concept is about being honest. That is a fact. That is how students are taught. We can see some abuse it (they were taught not to abuse it) just like we see some lawyers who abuse law. They were taught not to abuse law. When they abuse it, they are the ones to be blamed and not law.
        I can’t call EriTv but a propaganda arm or tool for PF(DJ)