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Customary Law : Sharia’a Endabba

In the 19th century, Abyssinian warlords invaded what they called “Hamassen”, present Eritrean highlands, (like they did for many decades before that, with their hordes who eventually settled in Eritrea. Alula legislated the wedi-Arbaa (citizen- after-40 years) laws that enabled the non-native settlers who resided in present Eritrea, to become citizens. Some of the camps of Alula’s generals became villages, mostly settler-soldiers –and those villages are well-known in the Eritrean highlands.

During the Italian times, Eritrea saw relative prosperity and Tigrayans flocked to Eritrea for work. They toiled, and lived, and assimilated in the society. When all the native “Italian soldiers” returned home, land became in short supply, returning soldiers wanted to live close to their original villages but they found others have taken the land. Life became tough. Soldiers who left their farming culture and became semi-urbans, needed jobs in the cities. The natural sentiment and reaction were a backlash at immigrants—Tigrayans who were commonly, and pejoratively, called Agama. Barba, an Italian immigration officer started to deport “Agama” to Adi Grat and block them at the borders. The enmity and racism against Tigrayans have started.

In the seventies and eighties, an alliance forged between the EPLF and TPLF alienated many Eritreans who have not returned to their country until now. They live disenfranchise in Sudanese refugee camps since the late 1960s.

In 1998, the two allies (TPLF-EPLF) went after each other’s throat. The populist racist propaganda is still going on relentlessly—in Eritrea, it took a dangerous turn and put on a nativist cloak. People ceased to be identified as simply Eritreans, but Eritreans of Tigrai-origin or of Gojjam, etc. Thousands of those who were born and raised in Eritrea, maybe called Eritrea home for several generations, were treated as aliens. And they are big in numbers, because before the confrontation, they had forged an alliance with co-Habesha forces and have been fully assimilated in the society.

 

In the last two-decades, even Isaias was taunted as a non-original Eritrea, whatever that means. Talk to a nativist and they will tell you how the PFDJ are not “pure Eritreans”, whatever that means. And the targeted segment is large, not a minuscule group who do not resist or push back. The witch-hunt resulted in many Eritreans breaking up into small groups, and the society became atomized.

The TPLF didn’t help. It recognized this fracture and began to massage it in so many ways. And you get the budding fascist group, Eritreans who feel endangered either by the nativists or by the traditional phobia of other non-Habesha cultures.

To me, legally and morally, anyone born and raised in Eritrea is a citizen. Anyone whose psyche is Eritrean is a citizen. However, anyone who doesn’t believe in the Eritrean nation, is a political menace, certainly not an ally. Such individuals and groups have to be fought against with resolve and defeated.

Don’t we all feel proud of our Sharia’a endaba (Hgi-Endaba in Tigrinya and Customary laws in English)? Let’s seek some wisdom in those sheriaa’s. What do they say about citizenship? It’s prudent to learn and know. If not, we shouldn’t claim to be a better society simply because we have written laws that we do not abide by.

Herd-mentality, mob mentality, has brought us to where we are. As a people, instead of worrying about development, peace and justice, we have become immigration lawyers pushing some people out, and pushing others to the sideline, but keeping in only those with whom we have identical cultural traits and social affinity. Nations are not built in such a manner. 

The damage to our nation is too serious and we need to take note: either we believe in justice and human values or we are just brutes who act on impulses like animals of prey.

So, one of the damages is evident in the sample thinking of those whose comments that I cannot read all. The brutes (roughly 8%) are ignorant, very freighted, insecure, and dangerous individuals (and groups). Their pronouncements and behavior are a testimony that we have only very little left of our claimed civility and humanity. Please do not try to underestimate the few samples I will read to you; it is a very representative sample.

Societies that educate themselves and enrich their mental capacity become enlightened. Awareness is the key to human development, while ignorance its enemy. We are a backward society that lacks the courage to admit it. And if we do not face it, we are doomed. Worse, we have the most unenlightened group ruling our country and they are making things worse by ignoring the wounds that are festering under their watch.

It’s critical we recognize that anyone born and raised in Eritrea is a citizen with full rights—though Eritreans do not have any rights at the moment. I appeal to all of you to reject the nativist discourse and clean your mind. I appeal to you to be true to the slogans of justice that seem to love and carry everywhere. Let’s not duplicate the Trump and European fascists’ phobia against those we perceive immigrants and shamelessly say “you just came to Eritrea in the 15th century”! Eritrea was not even created in its present form, and the name meant nothing.

At the end, I and many others I know, understand the removal of the PFDJ is a means, not the goal, and definitely not the expected end result. It is a means to reach the goal of justice, peace, prosperity, and stability and create a liberal, democratic system of governance that spreads education and helps refine our primitive culture. It is not to remove a tyranny and replace it by another unenlightened tyranny.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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Unedited notes for the Episode Byzantine was the Eastern part of the Roman empire–the capital …

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ድንሽ መሲሉኒ ኮለስኩዎ ዱባ
    ጠምያ ዝነበረት ከብዲ ብሕርቃን ጸጊባ
    መልሓስ ብገጃፋ ምስ ዓጀብታ ኣስናን
    ዱባ ምስጠዓሙ ደስ ኣይበሎምን

    ዱባ ዝሕሱር
    ኣብዚ ንታይ ይገብር

    ሃንደበት ኮይኑና
    ካብዚ ኣድሑኑና
    ክፋያ ንብል ኣለና
    ‘ንተስሚዕኩምና
    በሉ

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear my community,
    I have missed everyone a lot. I want to be reactivated into the discussions but I don’t know where to pick my entry after going awol for so long. I went so dark for a while and was not following events, stories or exchanges. BTW, is Isayas still breathing?
    I might have lost some of my edges here and for that reason, I will go slow: walking, jogging, … sprinting up to full speed.
    For now, my warmest greetings to all of you, Nitricc included:)

    • Paulos

      Hayata,

      Super to see you back! Hope all is well with you. Taking advantage of your absence, the people you rein in with gusto have been unleashed and flooded the Forum with lies after lies including the ungrateful lot when the man they put their trust on–Abiy is falling apart.

      As for Isaias, well let’s just say that he is still around. Again, welcome back and hope you will treat us with a tribute to the one of the greatest leaders Africa has ever produced–Meles the Giant–as we remember his untimely passing seven years today.

      • Selamat Professor Paulos Denmarkino AArkey,

        I beg your pardon but you should have realized by now Giant or GitSAtSE is trademarked and I do recall Meles knee tall to the average male hight. I did not realize you idolized Meles as much as Ayya Amanuel Hidrat. I have a lot more faith on the TaliqGundan Prime Minister Abie Ahmed the ultimate unifier of Ethiopia. Ye Semien sowoch bicha newu buzu shigerr yeseTTu
        የ ሰሜን ሶዎች ቢቻ ነው ቡዙ ያሻገሩ፥፥ ሁለቱ የ ቲግረ ማሃል ኢና መሬዎች ምን አንድ ቢደርጉ ለ ኩቡር የ ኢትዮጵያ መሪ ከባድ አሳብ ጭንቅላጡ ያሳሰቦ ነው፥፥ ግን ችሎታል አና ታላቅ ደገፍ ከ ይ ኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ አንዳ ‘ልው ርግጠኛ ነኝ፥፥ ያ ሸንፋል ዶሞ፥፥ ኢትዮጵያ ትንቅደም! ኣይዞህ ወንድሜ፥፥
        ኣሁን ኢትዮጵያ ደህና ናት ከ ኣቢ ኣህመድ ጋር ኣባትዋ ኣባትዋ ኣባትዋ
        ሆነች ኣታቅም ሃያት ኣደም አናትዋ
        ስለ መላ ህዝቦች ኢቶጵያ ኣልገባም ማንም ኣሳባትዋ
        አስከ መቸ ነው ላቅስው የ ሞተ ታንሹ ኣጎትዋ
        ከ ቀብር የ ተመለሰች ማን ናችው የላክዋ
        ምን ለታድርግ ኣሁን ስታንሳ ኣጪር ሰው ትግረ ትግራ ያለችህ የኣድዋ
        ነበረ አንዴ ራሱ መለስ ባለቤት የ ‘ናትዋ የ ኡነት ኣቦትዋ!

        አረ ባክህ ልቀቀኝ ጥሩ ስው የኤርትራ ኣምበሳ
        መነሳ ከ ፈልግ ኢንጂ ኣንሳይ
        ስንት ግዜ ላስተውስህ ነኝ ኢኔ
        አንስሳ ጥጠህ ከአንቅልፉ ኣድርግ አንደ ሚነሳ
        ጣላ ንህ ምትወደው ኣንት ለ ሰው ልሰክር
        ኢየ ጠጣ የ ትግረ ስዋ

        አንዴት ኣስቀያሚ ነው ባካቹ ኣጥኑ ማን አንደ ሆነ

        ጃሽዋ!

        ጻጸ

    • Thomas

      Welcome back, Hayat. I hope you stick around longer this time.

    • Blink

      Dear Hayat
      Welcome to the evidently true hayat circle .
      1. Amanuel sahle advocating for Tigray Tigrini off course Tigray intellects beside him singing their songs

      2. Issias and his service men on line to do what ever they like while Yeakl movement going with some zigzag
      3. Weyane in their planet hotel waiting for the 202 election
      4. SG digging to educate some lunatics while mishmashing many things in between
      5.Sudan people winning the fight while their dictator in cage like a wild animal .
      6. PM Abiy doing everything he can to captain the 3000 fake nation introduce to the reality
      7. Was the killing of sears and Ambachow really a coup ? I disagree if you say yes , I think it was a set up or weyane cold hand .

      8. Meles history is eroding by the day , not a building is standing by his name except in Tigray .
      9. Ethiopia 52 billion in dept yer breathing
      10. Our opposition leadership still continue to disappoint us .
      11. Your students in this forum are doing great , you must be proud with their standing , even some are kicking the Tigray -Tigrini pole higher by the day despite SG hard work to tell their mistakes.

      12. Awate team has closed the weyane chapter without saying a word about weyane and that is simply not a new thing to you .

      • Saleh Johar

        Blink,

        1) I think if you were a teacher, and you found a slow learner, you would not hesitate to expel the student 🙂 Patience is a requirement.
        2) Mishmash is a delivery issue, otherwise it would be stale and boring.
        3) Also, a free talk should not be expected to be so formal.
        4) Funnily, some even ask for references when it is just an opinion! It’s take it or leave it.
        5) Finally, everyone has a style unless you are thinking of regulating individual expression.

        Take it easy

    • Saleh Johar

      Welcome back Hayat, I missed you.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hayat,

      Good to see you back. Hope everything is well with you.

    • Selamat Hyatt,

      No. Honestly speaking I am not in anyway shape or form excited to see you or have you back at the forum. Other than their need to decrease or mitigate the high testosterone levels I can’t possibly see any added value of your return. Little do they realize that you may do just the opposite as your too may very well be a higher than they testosterone producer. Just go back where you were for my sake,

      Just being honest with you that’s all. But I will perhaps learn a bit of your stealthy tools you may have been exposed. I suppose you will start your frontal attack by weekend after you have caught up. Believe me you will find it to be a very tight squeeze or the mundane repetition of the same same or not. Hoping for your smart retreat to that cosy place of yours… if not? Whatever…
      For my coding purposes you will be color coded emerald green or aqua yeah perfect Aqua.

      JOSHUA!

      tSAtSE

      • Saleh Johar

        TsaTse, you are losing your quest to become a moderator. A cardinal rule: do not tell anyone they are not welcome. If the AT wanted colorless membership we would not have tolerated the diverse views. Pls adhere to the posting guidelines.

        • Paulos

          Selam Ayay,

          Tsatse Arkey is more of a bouncer as opposed to a prospective moderator. I think he is apt for the former for he could handle them nasty folks in the house.

          • Nitricc

            Hi P; i know you are in deep sadness of passing the dead midget but what is your deal? You have the right to support even the devil like PMMZ but don’t insult your readers by hating PIA. I will take PIA 1000 times over your dead midget. please!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            on the occasion to commemorate meles’s 7th dead years, meles widow told the media and the gathering “meles used to sing Aster Awake songs everyday before he go to bed” . i think he was the most confused person ever and he shouldn’t has been mp of ethio, he shouldn’t even born from the beginning.

        • Nitricc

          Hi SG; i didn’t even read what Tsatse posted but it is very wrong for you to delete. Regardless that is his take. Not that i agree with tsaste but it is wrong for you to delete. Wrong!!!!

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            Wrong based on your view? What if they do not agree with your view? Debate it with you? It doesn’t work that way. You can give your view but we have full rights to ignore it, particularly if it’s irrelevant, insignificant or annoying, or we have other things to do–we do not run this full time

            Moderators do not run a decision for a vote before they take it. There are guidelines and they adhere to them. Sometimes the wrong attitude could warrant a deletion of a comment. I will make it easy for you: a referee runs a game and takes decisions. You cannot argue with the referee except if you are a higher authority than him. The same with a traffic cop–they give you a ticket if you violate–whatever your view, it is them who take the decision. I hope that gives you a context on how some things are run.

        • Saleh,

          Now all I said is that I was not at all excited or glad to see her back as others because she will not at all add value to circular conversations here by the male dominated community. I did not say she is not welcomed. I was being honest with her and myself.
          I noticed you considered Senay_Zer’s post as spam and deleted it? I did not see a violation of the rules in his post. Though it was revealing and would have revealed the machinations and organized algorithms deployed for the specific agenda. I don’t suppose you would clue me, you can consider it as training ahead of the time, why Senay_zer’s post was deleted. With regards to the Princes H and the wars of the Trojan horses (plural) and all the suitors salivating as they did for Helen long ago (it must be the H) I had a feeling you were going to shield spare her feeling as she was indeed feeling the most gorgeous and sought after woman and tSAtSE was the spoiler. Thanks for your patience and revealing to her my honest reaction anyway.

          I think Nitricc is vying for my spot. The only problem he has is that he does not know right from wrong and everything goes including the throwing into the dungeons and murdering of what should be truly his truest Eritrean hero in a perfect world. Time limitations are approaching fast unfortunately and I will be vacating the necessary space for the Princes Hayatt. My only sincerest and what would make me the happiest man ever lived is for Nitricc to be brave and dig very deep to learn about Fisehaye Yohannis… I will start my deepest prayer for Nitricc to do just that one thing for tSAtSE because pound for pound Nitricc would be the man any one would like in the trenches and fox hole. There has not been an Eritrea after they took JOSHUA except in……….

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

          • Saleh Johar

            TsaTse,
            Lesson two. You can ask but we no one put it on spam. However, we often find comments on the spam folder and the reason could be mainly words not allowed by disqus, like four letter words, sexist, like homo-anything, etc. we just change the word and release it. But we do not put it in the spam folder. We explained this for years but we do not have a cure for paranoia.

            You have leveled many unfounded accusations against the moderators but we just brushed off because it is annoying and time wasting. I would like to tell you that your comment is an argument. This is not a court of law. We enforce the guidelines that is why it is delegated.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Hayat Adem,

      Welcome back. We really missed you. I thought you are preparing a front.

      Al-Arabi

    • Nitricc

      Hi Hayat Adam: hahahahaha Nitricc included huh: okay how was Tigryan diaspora gathering in Mekelle? The point is why can you be honest tell your ” community” the truth? Anyway, well come back and i shall remain honest and tell you how disappointed i am for you not telling the truth. How was Mekelle? I see all the meetings about improving relations with Eritrea and the simple thing to do was, admit you Tigaru are wrong and apologize for the harms you inflict upon the people of Eritrea. Don’t believe all the crooks in here telling you the BS and what you want to hear. Don’t believe that some people who hate PIA but love PMMZ? Ask how? they are the most dishonest people and crooks. If you hate PIA, there no way you can love the dead midget, no way. Anyway: how was the confused Tigryan diaspora BS? come clean, you may fool the fools but not Nitricc.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Hi Nitrickay,

        There is no comparison between the two leaders. There is only contrast between them on the litmus test of intellectualism, on governing diversified population, and the ability to listen and learn. They are creed of different values.

        • Teodros Alem

          selam aman h
          I know but what is meles’s values?
          putting tigraians life in danger in all over horn africa? Or dividing ethiopia along ethnic lines? what is it?

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Hi Emma,

          መለሰን ኢሳያስን ተኻትዑ
          ሰባት ዓደሙ ክሰምዑ
          ክፈርድዎም መኖም ከምዝረትዑ

          መለስ ጀመረ
          ዝገበሮ ኩሉ ዘርዘረ
          ትሕተ ቅርጺ
          ዩኒቨርሲቲታት ተክኖሎጂ

          ማእከሎት ዲጋታት
          ናይ ቁጠባ ምዕባለታት

          ኣብ ዓለም ኣፍሊጠያ ሃገረይ
          ካብ ዓዘቕቲ ኣውጺአዮም ህዝበይ
          ኢሉ ከይወደአ
          ኡስ በል ህበይ

          ክብል ኮለፎ
          ‘ት ናትና ዘገንፎ

          ኣነ ድማ ሳዋ ተኺለ
          ሓንቲ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ናብ ብዙሓት መቒለ
          ን ህዝበይ ጸገም ኣማቒለ

          ብዙሕ ሰደድ ጌረ
          ከፊተ ናይ ስደተኛታት መፍረ
          ብዙሓታት ዜጋታት ኣውፊረ
          ንጎረባብቲ ኣሸቢረ
          ኣብ ወጻኢ ሰለይቲ ቆጺረ
          ንዜጋታተይ ሾቖጥቆጥ ኣቢለ
          ሎሚ ኣብ ኤርትራ የለን በዓል ስረ
          ‘ንታይ ዝኾነ ‘ዩ ንዓይ ዝደፈረ

          ንዓደይ ሰላም ጌረያ
          ከምዚ ናተይሲ ን ኢትዮጵያ

          እህህህህህህም በለ መለስ

          ኢሳያስ ሕማም ርእሲ ጌሩ
          ኢሉ ክሓስብ ጀሚሩ
          ዘረብኡ መትሓዚ ስለ ዝሰኣነሉ

          ትርጉም ከምዘይብሉ ተረዲኡ
          ኣቋረጸ መደርኡ

          ዘረባ ከይጀመረ
          ይኹነልካ ኢሉ ተዓዝረ

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            Imagine, if he was our leader with his vision to our industrious people, we would have seen a different nation that welcomes its sons and daughters, a nation of a first rate in education and allied healthcare institutions in Africa, with different regional industrial parks that puts it to be the leading importer of industrial products….etc. In short a blessed nation with all the needs to its population.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ኤማ
            ሶሪ ኣብ ምስትምሳል ዶ የእቴካ። ኣይትሓዘለይ
            Let me borrow from a wise guy I know, take it on the positive note:

            • ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ሳላ ሕጽረት መግቢ ካብ ኮለስትሮል ዳርጋ ናጻ ኮይኑ
            • ሳላ ሕጽረት ኤለክትሪክሲትን ነዳዲን ካብ ብከላ ኣየር ናጻ ኮይኑ።
            • ከምኡ ‘ውን ሳላ ሕጽረት መጓዓዝያ ብእግሩ ስለዝኸይድ ምሉእ ጥዕና ፈጢሩሉ።
            • ሳላ ሕጽረት ኢንተርነት ካብ ፌክ ኒውስ ካብ ናይዞም “ተቓወምቲ ኢና በሃልቲ” ምንባብ ድሒኑ።
            • ሳላ ጽቡቕ ምምሕዳር ሃገርና ሰብ ኣብ ምሉእ ዓለም ተሰዲዱ። ዘይፍልጦ ረኺቡ።
            • ከተማታትና ሳላ ዋሕዲ ‘ዞም “ፍጮታት” ሰላም ሰፊኑ።
            • ሳላ ራኢ ናይዚ “ውሕሉል መራሒና” ዲጋ ብዲጋ ኮይና ሃገር ጀራዲን ኣብ ዝሓለፍካዮ:
            • ኦርጋኒክ ፍሩታታ ሓምሊ ወዲ ሓምሊ ቦሽቦሽ ኢሉ።
            ከይትደክም ኣሕጽር ከብላ ኣብዚኣ።
            ኣይመስለካን

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            I know but u don’t make sense at all. meles was tigrai leader but his ” vision “didn’t do what u said above, instead thier life is in danger all over horn africa, they even afraid to use thier language outside of tigrai. they r swimming in maditranian and red sea. r u sure u know anything about meles’s vision or u just doing ur duty?

          • Thomas

            Hi Teodros,

            Here you are as I was guessing. Every time Meles is mentioned, you come out of your crap please to tell us you have a stupid comments about him. Do us a favor please, change your style because as of now, it really stinks. You stink, your comment stinks and your whole existence around here stinks! Do something else for a change, would you?

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomi,

            How ሓደ ጭው ዝበለ ኣዝማሪኖ ወዲ ገጀረት ended up defending a dictator against someone who lived under Meles’s deadly ethnic federalism rule perhaps all his life? Meles is an Ethiopian, and for obvious reason, his people know him more than Eritreans do.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hello Peace,

            Here is how I look at this. Issayas is a crazy dictator; and he is so evil that he even put his own comrades (G15) in a horrifying prison and enjoying the show of their miserable life and death at the end. He also tried to screw Meles, but Meles knew Issayas all the way. So, everything you think is done on Eritreans is never because of Meles, but the devil Issayas. Please understand this:

            – Immediately after our nations independence, Meles told the likes of Professor Mesfin – Eritrea is for Eritreans and it is an independent country. Again they asked him about our Asseb, he told them Asseb is deep inside Eritrea and if they want to fight, his exact words “Mengedun Cherk yarigulach’h”. So, the Teddros and the Horizons have a good reason to hate Meles, I do not have that reason.
            – Meles voted against war with Eritrea, but he was over voted by the parliament. You see he follows the law of his nation so he had to be dictated by the result of the vote. Once the war started and when Issayas was making jokes about Meles’s TPLF army that they can easily be defeated and the sun will never rise east or set west….. Meles had to make sure that Issayas becomes history and he would never become a threat to hims or to anyone in the region for that matter.
            – Come on, now. If Meles was the president of Eritrea, he would have worked hard to develop Eritrea and I cannot even begin to tell his diplomatic skills. It is so impressive, the whole world had to admire for he was a progressive one.

            – Go to Addis; and make an honest comparison Mengistu’s Addis and Meles’s Addis – It is so Europe looking now even the so called Dr. Issayas supporter could stop admiring the change made there.

            – About federalism thing in Ethiopia, ask the Oromos and all other ethics of Ethiopia, the all are for it. The only ethinic crying foul is the Amhara and you know what their reason is. The dominance of Amhara culture and Amhara people over the rest in Ethiopia. Like Trump, they always say let’s Amhara great again. My bad, Ethiopia great again:)

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomi,

            This is interesting….So Meles was good because Issayas is bad, or TPLF is good because PFDJ is worst. If this is the standard or logic we should be using for evaluating a leader then we are doomed. It is not a secret all major institutions was dominated by TPLF and its elites– Military 98%, Economy almost 100%, and Politics 100%– election victory every five years. Issayas is doing the same thing he is just outsmarted.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            Tell me why I should care about Ethiopia, please? I am not an Ethiopia and as an Eritrean my country is in disaster because of the world’s number 1 murderer? I do not get why people have to try to distract us from focusing from our own miserable issues like we have the luxury of time. Why the hell should I care about Ethiopians when my own family are migrating to Ethiopia as that has been the case since 1998 and continue going on. As we are exchanging comments here, do you know how many brothers and sisters of ours are crossing to the weyane border right now? The migrants in Tigray seem to think that they are in a safer place, who are we to refute that?

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomi,

            I agree, I was just replying to comments plus let’s use a good democratic institutions as a benchmark. Thank you!

            Peace!

          • Teodros Alem

            selam thomes
            meles is mainly ethiopian poltics,u the one jumping all over the place to defend his crimes.
            what stinking psychopath.
            nobody is kid here, u r tplf admirer and defender.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Thomas,

            All your statements about the man is facts on the ground and facts on the book. The only thing that I have qualms with him is on the deportation issue. Indeed he was against the war but defeated by the parliament. If Meles wasn’t in power, the process of recognition for Eritrea to be a member of the international community wouldn’t be that easy the way it was facilitated smoothly. He stood for our sovereignty and showed good allyship to our cause. RIP.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            In the beginning yes. He even crafted article 39:) while Issayas entertaining confederation with Ethiopia perhaps the project of Abay Tigray, the secret deal, was intact. But later the world witnessed his desperate attempt to capture Assab.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            We have different reading on the man, despite we are on the same page on the Eritrean issues. For me the Eritrean issue matter’s me a lot and I am happy on that, being on the same boat.

            Regard

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            You going into assumptions here “the project of Abay Tigray, the secret deal, was intact.” How do you know, Meles was going to Abay tigray “secret deal”? After all, we have heard from Mesfin Hagos what Issayas aiming that he said was planning to agree to the “common government” deal with the derg crew. Man, you must have a really good reason when you are trying to accuse this guy. As it has been said he was more Eritrean than the Eriterans themselves.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            How about cause and effect 🙂 Since you are vouching for him would you mind telling us the motive or reason behind crafting article 39 when Ethiopia was at critical juncture?

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            I suspect our referendum would have been delayed for good if it was not for this people. To many Ethiopians have not accepted our nations independence to this date. This is not a secret deal to you as you seem to like this phrase, peace “arkey”. The Tigrayans are not Eritreans for us to expect everything in the horizon. They just are not capable of doing that for us:) Also, we must know the attitudes of all Tigrayans when it comes to Eritrea is not the same. To me, Meles went extra steps to include Eritrea’s interest, at least partially. However, Issayas never created a conductive environment I believe.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            If you are saying he is less evil and diplomatically more sophisticated than Issayas then I am 100% with you. Let’s stop here. Helko Keiyetekaley keleka 🙂

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Peace,

            Bezerebaka gerka hilko tietwelna zeleka kei’aklekas bi’egrka ki’a kit’gebrelna delika??. Hanti tesfa zelatini at nai mejemria testa e’ya, mikniyatus amiche testa aitihkum’Wan ekum semi’a:)

          • Teodros Alem

            selam thomas
            Stinking thomas , u and people like u r smelling stinky here, ur pathetic tplf idology stinks, the fact that u and ur other stinky friends don’t care about the suffering of the people of tigrai but u stinky care more about ego , that tells u guys r not just smelling stinky but idiots psychopaths.
            u guys need to find a water and get a shower, ur presence outside ur border stinks, stay in ur territory, go check addis now days , it smells beautiful.

          • Selam Amanuel H.

            Would you accept MZ as the leader of eritrea with his ethnic federalism he had entertained for eritrea? He had also said that much more than eritrea that is divided on religious grounds, tigray has the chance to become an independent country, which could mean many things, if one has in mind the dream of greater tigray, tigray-tigrigni, and agaziland. Would you still commend him and stand with him?
            Who killed more of his people, MZ with his agazi force or IA during peacetime? Do you accept the same level of killings in eritrea, or it doesn’t matter to you because it is ethiopians who died?
            Does eritrea have the shoulder to carry billions of dollars in debt that he left behind, and could she afford the 12bn$, money illegally taken out of the country until his death in 2012, that enriched tplf kleptocrats?
            Many things could be said. It must be known that i am not advocating for IA in anyway. A dictator or a tyrant, big or small, is the same whether he is north or south of the mereb. These are not two different worlds.
            You have not only a soft spot but also a blind spot for MZ, and you never see the crimes he committed on ethiopia and ethiopians, and you wish he ruled eritrea instead of ethiopia? Are you blessing or cursing eritrea and eritreans?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            The social contradictions of Eritrean an Ethiopian is different, so I have no doubt on him to come with “decentralized Unitary Government” for Eritrea. There is no hates to each other with in our social groups which is so prevalent within the Ethiopian social groups. You don’t prescribe the same solutions for societies with different socio-politics. I can tell you this with certainty, that Ethiopia can not be united without the current Federal system, similar to India the largest democratic government on earth with the same system. It is the only system that heals the society. Otherwise, you will face the fate of Yugoslavia, my friend.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,

            When you say MZ would have come with a “decentralized Unitary Government” for eritrea, you are talking about maybe another MZ, whom i do not know if he ever existed as such, because, ‘zenawism” was ethnic federalism, which he proposed for eritrea as well, a country and people he knew very well, and that was one of the main disagreements with IA and other eritreans.
            In ethiopia federalism is not the problem, because today most ethiopians are for federalism. It is “ethnic federalism”, the poisonous type for that, that is meant to kill the country, most ethiopians are against. Federalism that erected the anole statue of hate, created ethnic supremacists while at the same time preaching that all ethnic groups are equal, and taught ethiopians that other ethnic groups in their regional states are second class citizens, is what ethiopians are against. Ethiopians have felt it and continue to fill the toxic effect of ethnic federalism a la tplf, and other than tplf and olf, other political parties do not seem to be against regional federation if it is implemented at a certain stage. Maybe, this is not the right time yet, because many are still intoxicated with regionalism, tribalism and identity politics, and the reason ethiopia is unstable. With ethnic federalism there is no future for ethiopia, contrary to what you say.
            Yugoslavia was a group of countries that were forced into unity by Tito after wwii, and there was no way to keep it together after the fall of the eastern bloc. We know the roles played by milosevic and the usa government, the one worked hard to keep it together and the other to dismantle it, so that the fall of communism is completed.
            Therefore, insisting that if not zenawism, ethiopia is not meant to be, as the guru had once said, doesn’t hold water. Ethnic federalism was meant to disintegrate ethiopia and not to unite it. Ethiopians are infected with it. unfortunately, it will take sometime before they realize that ethnic division is a losing game for all.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            You asked me, as to how do I know if he will be for DUG to Eritrea. First he knows the Eritrean societal structure very well. Second his “intellectual acumen” and his knowledge on natures of Governments gave me to predict his prescriptional judgement. The rest of your argument is GIGO as usual. I don’t see a knowledge of governmental systems in you as to when and where different system of government are applicables. Take it as your home work to researches on them.

            Regards

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayat,

      Welcome Back!

      Peace!

    • Brhan

      Mehaba Hayat,
      Just to help you pick up , in this part of the forum my input was about official languages of Eritrea , well in the future , when we have constitution. Ambiguity, is the character of PF(JD) and when it comes to official languages , its policy has been ambiguous. Arabic is widely used in PF(JD)’s Eritrea: when you reach in Asmara Air port you are provided with entry form written either in Arabic or Tigirnya and I believe in English, there is Arabic media and last but not least the last national speech of Isasys of Martyar’s day was immediately translated into Arabic.Is accidental or going to be consistent and why , time will tell.
      To summaries the discussions , there were commentators who mixed language with religion , others saw it business wise and said yes because it helps to communicate with ME and North Africa ,some mixed official languages with national languages, some mixed language with ethnicity, etc
      There were other commentators who saw the issue based on the political history of Eritrea and that issue goes back to the 50s of the 20th century/
      My input was simple: let us get out of this cycle through institutionalization of official langues i.e. hammering them in our future constitution by either legislative power (parliament) or referendum ( as Ethiopians did with Amharic). My spirit has been I do not want to impose and as the same time I do not want some one to impose on me about what official languages of Eritrea.
      I hope the above helps you to catch up.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Brhan,

        It is an injustice to secure the rights of ONE PARTY and deny the rights of the SECOND PARTY. There is no referendum on rights, My friend. You have to apprehend that a right acquired without discussion. Tigrinia is a right, therefore, accepted without debate. Likewise, the Arabic language is a right, thus it should be accepted without debate.

        If we move outside the rights domain, then we could make a referendum. For instance, the time we decide to choose from English, French, or the Italian language, then we could make a referendum.

        I hope you conceive what rights mean.

        Al-Arabi

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hayat,
      Welcome back dear. The forum missed you more than you had missed it. I hope your absence was for good reason. Actually, absence of several worthy participants has been felt here.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Wow ..Hayat the queen..

      Most welcome..It is great day.

      KS..

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ዛግራ መሲሉኒ ገዛይ ከፊተላ
    ቁሩብ ካብታ ‘ረቂ ገጭ ሰልዘበልኩላ
    ዘየስተውዓልኩላ?

    እተዊ ዛግራ ድማ በልኩ
    ኣብ ኢደይ ዝነበረት ጠርሙዝ ጎርዳዕ ‘ንዳበልኩ
    ብየማናይ ኢደይ ኣፈይ ‘ንዳጸርግኩ

    መሬት ምስሓዘት ዓይኒ
    ገለ በዚ ቕድመይ ሽው በለኒ

    ወድ ኣይተ! ድማ በልኩ
    ስለ ዝሰንበድኩ

    እሾኽዶ ኣለዋ ‘ዩ ዛግራ
    ኣይፋል ማናልባት ዶ ኾን ናይ ኣስመራ?

    ክሪኣ ‘ይለ ቅርብ ንተበልኩ
    ለካ ቅንፍዝ ‘ያ ኣብ ገዛይ ዘእተኹ

    ብሰንካ ገድፍኩዋ ገዛይ
    ንሳ ኣብ ዓራተይ ኣነ ናብ ኣጎዛይ

    ጸኒሐ ሃገረይ ገድፍኩ
    ዛግራ ኢለ ቅንፍዝ ስለዘምጻእኩ
    ስለ ዘይሓስብኩ
    ብስም ዒት ስለ ተሰንፍኩ
    እነሀልኩም ኣብ ቃልዕ ወደቕኩ
    ከሰርኩ

    • ፍዝዝዝዝ ፍዝፍዝፍዝፍዝ
      ፍዝዝዝ ፈዛዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝ
      ቅንፍዝፍዝዝዝዝዝዝ
      ፍዝፍዝፍዝፍዝፍዝፍዝ
      ዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝዝ
      ከይደቅስኩ ሓደርኩ
      ካዋዋዋዋወዋወዋÀáaäæãåā

      JOSHUA!

      tSAtSE

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Selam Nitricc and Ismail,
    Nitricc, you are right: “there are none Arab ethnic Eritreans.” Therefore, your question is legitimated: “who is demanding Arabic to be an official language of Eritrea; is it the few Arab countries educated elites or this is the demand of the people?” For sure it is not the demand of the people.
    Tigre and Tigrigna are the main languages in Eritrea.
    Ismail mentioned that the other half of Eritrean population has the right to use Arabic as its language.
    Mr. Ismail, have you ever asked the Tigre Ethnic group if they want to replace their mother languague through Arabic? Have you ever asked the Kunama? Have you asked the same question to the other ethnic groups? Who gave you the right to advocate for all the Eritrean ethnic groups.
    Also, when you import a language, you import the culture and tradition related to that language. Additionally, in case of Arabic, importing the language means importing the religion as well. When we import the Arabic language, it means that we import
    also Arabic culture and tradition. It is self destruction since we are going to delete our thousands years old valuable culture, tradition and identity. Do we want that?
    We need to ask our-self, what we get by importing Arabic language? I think, we don’t need to dwell on this old story.
    We need to teach our kids the language of science, the language of technology and the language of business.
    Thank you
    Hawaz

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hawaz Tesfom,

      Let me begin by stating a counter question to you. Have you ever asked the socio-linguistic groups you mentioned whether or not they want Arabic as official language? No one needs to give me “the right to advocate for all the Eritrean ethnic groups”. It’s is my natural right to state my view. By the way, unless you are too young or too poorly equipped as a citizen to learn about the recent history of your people and country, the issue at hand is not as abstract as your views project.

      If you give any credence to historical and legal precedents, I will quote myself and copy and paste one of two comments I made to Hope a couple of days ago. And this was: “2) half (34) of Eritrea’s defunct parliament in 1952 chose Arabic as official language and got endorsement for it”. For your benefit, the 34 parliamentarians had represented the Moslem segment of the population and across all lingo-social groups.

      Moreover (and please mark these words), while 68 members had voted for Tigrigna with anticipation that the other half (34) would reciprocate as quid pro quo and vote for Arabic, some whose mental set up was fixated (as you now do) on the curious notion that Islam is Arabic and Arabic is Islam, had reneged. Only 12 of them voted for Arabic. I have to say that I am surprised that you forgot Islam in Eritrea is nearly 1400 years old. I mean it is already there, and shall not wait until Arabic becomes the official language of Eritrea to be imported. I would watch what I write and say a bit carefully before I would let it be heard or read by others.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hawaz Tesfom,

      I deduce from your comment that you are very poor in the history of Eritrea and her people. This might be due to that history doesn’t concern you. I guess the only issue that interests you is to annex Eritrea to Ethiopia – in case everything goes well according to the plan – or Tigrai. All in the South, especially Amhara and Tigrai, gaze open mouths towards Eritrea. The tool that permits them to penetrate the Eritrean border are the immigrants who settled in Eritrea. These immigrants came to Eritrea, holding with them their language named Tigrinia. Inside Ethiopia, these immigrants accept Amharic as their official language without objection. However, they raise Tigrinia as an official language in Eritrea intending to disintegrate the people of Eritrea, and at the end of the day to annex Eritrea to Ethiopia, or Tigrai.

      In the forties of the last century, immigrants formed the Andinet Party and those who refused annexation terrorized, tortured, robbed, and killed Eritreans. Full unity with Ethiopia became very difficult, as a result, they postponed their dreams and accepted federation. During the federation era, they subjugated politicians and forced them to flee from Eritrea.

      When Haile Sellase settled down and solidified his authority replaced the Arabic and Tigrinia by Amharic. The migrants accepted the cancellation of Tigrinia, taking off the Eritrean flag and annexation of Eritrea to Ethiopia with great pleasure. They didn’t object its annulment and they were happy to learn Amharic (A dead language that invites for ignorance – the main mite of Ethiopia failure). When the Eritrean people ignited an arm-struggle, they became commandos and fought against them. Through time the revolution became strong and had gone outside the control of Ethiopia. At this point in time, they joined the struggle in view of the fact will weaken it from inside.

      The migrants made their own front and invited their siblings from Tigrai to take out Eritreans from the field. Eritreans were fighting their enemies; however, these migrants were planning to hijack the Eritrean independence. Actually, they succeeded and those who are ruling Eritrea at present are the immigrants.

      Eritreans woke up from their deep sleep when they heard the head of the migrants declared publicly that handed Eritrea to Ethiopia and lost nothing. The reaction of Eritreans was very strong, the reason that made Isaias and Abie Ahmed postpone their plan of annexing Eritrea to Ethiopia officially.

      Suppose Kebessa was located between South-Sudan and Ethiopia, and speak Tigrinia, I don’t think those who seem to be lovers would care about them. The Amhara and Tigrai want from Eritrea only the sea without the people. The size of the cross an Eritrean hold doesn’t concern them. If they come to their territory will deport them without mercy.

      We deduce from the above that Tigrinia – the immigrants’ language – has become the tool of destroying Eritrea – a tool in the hands of aliens. In order to close these dark pages, I recommend Kebessa Eritrea to bury the dead language, and adopt the Italian language. This language causes hypersensitivity to the South of Eritrea.

      Al-Arabi

  • Selamat Saleh Ghadi,

    So what does it take to qualify to be a moderator at Awate.com. This is my open application form for the position. You guys need a little help. I await your response.

    JASHUA!

    tSAtSE

    • Saleh Johar

      TsaTse,
      With pleasure but first prove you have the patience to play the role. That is easy and by God, we need help. The old hands are getting old faster than I expected. 🙂

      • Saleh,

        Prove I will. You will know when proved. Thanks.

        JOSHUA!

        tSAtSE

  • Nitricc

    Hi all; if anyone out there wants to answer me, I will be grateful. So, I read all this takes regarding for Arabic language in Eritrea. It is my understanding that almost there are none Arab ethnic Eritreans. So, who is demanding Arabic to be an official language of Eritrea; is it the few Arab countries educated elites or this is the demand of the people? I have no problem with Arabic or any other language I just needed to understand the cause and the source.

    • Nitricc,

      Here is your answer. I will gladly oblige you. Did you understand ዘ explanation? Of course NOT! Because this IS NOT A QUESTION:

      “…that almost there are none Arab ethnic Eritreans…”

      All the unhindered ample access and opportunities you have had, unlike your unfortunate kinfolk and pears in Sawa and all over Eritrea, you still can’t manage to ask a question let alone consider an answer. The issue of language you are not equipped to tackle or have an opinion about. Why do I say that? Because you clearly can not communicate your thoughts intelligently through the use of language.

      The meat in your bonehead boneless so called question FAILED MISERABLY in conveying YOUR NON message. For all the ARAB Eritreans sake do help yourself and evolve. There is such a thing called GRAMERLY you should maybe consider, dear protozoa! May be I should too because I misspelled grammerly twice like the protozoa single cell splitting into two… Give it another try Nitriccay like I am doing here grammarly! WRONG! It is as made up of a word as your “sentence” above!

      ሱቕ አስከ በል፥፥ ዓልየተኛታት ቀናኣት ሰብ ቂም ባዕልኹም ባዕሎም ጎይተትካን መራሕትኻን ዓልየታዊ ይኹን ዝኾነ ፍልልያት ዘይብሉ አቲ ህዝቢ፥ ገርሂ ዖሻ ከም በዓል ኒትሪክ ልኢኾም ሓዊ ከግህሩን ፍልልያት ከግፍሑን ወግሐ ጸብሐ መርየት ክትዓርብ ን ዕዘብ ኣሎና፥፥ ዘመነ አንታይ ኢዩ ክንብሎ ኢዚ ዝመና ደቀይ?

      ጃሽዋ!

      ጻጸ

    • sara

      Dear Gen NIt,
      regardless to the presences of ethnic Arab or not, Arabic language has presence in eritrea and its commonly spoke in the country…. the same way english is spoken
      when necessary, the same way french, Portuguese is widely spoken in many african countries. the problem is its being politicized to an extent that its the only issue will
      make eritrea thrive and prosper.
      actually if you are in Asmara and you dont mix Arabic with what ever lingua you speak you are not Asmarino, the standard bearer of eritrea.
      so nit dear arabic language is a fact regardless of official or not….. those who dont ,with all respect “Yeshrebu moya men albahr.”

      • Nitricc

        Hi Sara; I am not against any language let alone Arabic. I am just wondering and trying to know if there is another agenda behind this demand. Whenever I watched events in Eri-TV, I hear the announcers use both Tigrigna and Arabic. I mean is this enough? What else is needed? I am just asking. If the demand is for Arabic to replace Tigrigna then you got a big problem because I don’t see that happening. Again what exactly is the demand? There is nothing wrong for Arabic to be used in Eritrea but the “push” makes it suspicious. Now my question to you is that are you satisfied with use of Arabic in today’s Eritrea? It is used equally with Tigrigna in public events.

        • Nitricc,

          guleiha ukhtek
          “ana begulikk beUlik
          ana ma AAreff walHaga
          ma aQderr Qiderrerrrrr
          mAaA. baEriff walla HAggaa luQAA
          Akhuuyy huna malalkeennnnn
          whoWaaa Arebi laEEE man Arebb
          rebbrebbrebb Arebbbb
          whoUaaa Al-Arabi Aritryyy
          weledd weledd mewelleddledled
          mewluuud mewluuuuddaaaa mewludeen
          Al Aritreeeennn mnn yom yom aldeeeeneee
          AsmaEni Hassa galuley whoUom
          whoUommm miiinnnuuu whoUom
          neHnuU Haqell AllaH
          Rebel AAlemeeennn
          Aritreeeen
          AAyyzeeeeennnnn
          Al LuQQaAA
          Al AArebbeeeeeeen

          BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN!!!!BEEEENN MAA HUB HUB WA!!

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

        • sara

          nitric dear….
          well……well…. that is something to ponder on and i am sure no one can definitely confirm whether it is satisfactory or not.
          but the fact of the matter is Arabic language is widely used in Eritrea
          and by Eritreans every where… and that is regardless of religion and ethnicity.
          leave eritrea proper, do you know how many eritreans are in the middle east… over half a milion… and unlike in europe and america
          or australia… eritreans in the middle east come from all religions and ethinicities of eritrea…. they are are there and very connected with their country eritrea… imagine now almost a quarter of eritreans
          who are well connected to their country and most tend to return and settle in eritrea are well versed with arabic language ,culture, and every thing with it.
          nit, its not any more, ibrahim, yosef,ismail,abdellah, fatma, meryem
          who speak or understand arabic language…. but abraham, eyob
          frewyni,haile,tesfay,almaz too.
          so… nit dear……under the circumstance yes i am satisfied.

    • Brhan

      Hi Nitricc,

      To make it simple for you…Arabic is not about ethnicity ….Does speaking and writing in English make you an English person. If you understand this , good , if not , I am ready for lesson #2.

      Thanks

      • Nitricc

        Hi Brhan; try again. In that case why not Italian be a national language? Oh I get it because Eritreans are not Italians. So, let me volunteer to give you a lesson # one; Language is a culture that describes your identity as a person, ethnic and national.

        • Brhan

          Hi Nitircc,
          Watch we are talking about official languages and not national languages. There is a difference between the two.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Brhan; I know and there is no official with out national. That is my point!!!!!

          • Brhan

            Hi Nitircc,
            I think we are now so close to agree.
            Let us take Francophone or Anglophone African countries. Neither French nor English have been their national languages but official languages. But in USA English is not only the official language but the de facto national language? Do you think Spanish is the national language of USA? No!
            So is Eritrea close to the African or US model in this case
            Have a nice day!

  • Blink

    Dear Hawaz and all
    I donot know why Jeberti has to be dragged this way and I really do not know the point behind it but it is unfair and not a good game thing to single out Jeberti alone for any case . Jeberti has been living among Tigrinja for centuries and they don’t have animosity against any one but at this time the attack against them seems growing by the day , I mean every day and this is not good thing for anyone who claims to be Eritrean and it must be stopped. I asked one guy and he squarely buys Hawaz and other sentiments and I repeated the question and yet he can’t come up with good answers, the only thing he refer was when they were in Eritrea they were good friends just until they cross to Sudan , He blame them for abandoning them and look for new Muslims friends in Sudan yet this was not enough for me and I again asked him to bring another reason yet he did not , he keep accusing them for being extremists as well as needing more of a new understanding of islam . I told him what he thinks about Pente who even abandoned their families and he again didn’t satisfy me with good answer.

    Remember if the Tigrinja speakers managed to learn Arabic as many already do they will still be in advantage too as the other small ethnic groups will either lose their mother language or opt Arabic for few elites . Religion is the main driving force for some people in this issue but I believe the benefit of having more languages in your radar helps a lot. One can look at different things but I believe the value of arabic must be compared to its use and the benefits it can offer to the society this Muslim thing from a religion side is simply the talk of lunatics who are old and lost in their old Iraq or Syria courses long time ago . The people should be there to choose what is good for them . Some people can see it like this 8 against one but this is also false as many Bilen , saho( except the few cry babies) , Kunama and others do have beige color in this issue . My question is why is Jeberti singled out in this ?

    Amanuel Sahele openly declared Kebire and weldeab weldemariam are Tigrians , what an old shameful creature is he becoming, He was with weyane elites kneeling down to weyane idiots and give Tigrians a lecture how Eritreans are and who is who . Amanuel Sahle the loser is again at it waving the old Twin agazian . I mean can Obama be Kenyan ? We Eritreans must nullify such as Amanuel sahle who is simply not fit to talk about Eritrea as he sees things from a DNA or origin of some people to reconnect with weyane . Amanuel sahle the idiot of weyane is again senseless in his political views over our heroes who died defending the horrible Ethiopian leaders decision. I don’t know about most of you but I don’t think Amanuel sahle is in a right mental status, I hope he run the following tests such as computed tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), or positron emission tomography (PET), to rule out other possible causes for symptoms

    • Paulos

      ለኽባጥ,

      ክንዲ ጽፍሪ ናይ ሊቀሊቃውንቲ ክቡር ኣቦናን ሓውናን ኣማኑኤል ሳህለ የብልካን፣ ጉሓፍ ስለዝኾንካ ምስቶም መዛኑኻ ጉሓፋት ህግደፍ ኬድካ ሃለውለው በል!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        ሰላም ዶ/ር ጳውሎስ,

        አይገርመካን ኣበይ አለኻ ዘይበልዎስ አብዚ ኣለኹ ይብል:: እንታይከ ትሕዝቶ አለዎ ጽሕፍትኡ በጃካ ጸርፊ:: ኣንታ ኣማኒኤል ሳህል ደአ ናቱ ሊግ (league) ዘይኮነ:: መምህሩን ኮስካሲኡን እኮ’ዩ ነይሩ:: ብድሕሪ ብርዒ ስም ተሓቢኡ ሽም ሰባት ንምጽላም ዝተላእከ ዘርኢ ህግደፍ እኮ’ዩ::

        • Paulos

          Selam Professor A. Hidrat and Thomas,

          This guy is obviously a done deal Higdef sent to divert any issue intended to debunk PFDJ’s heap of lies.

          I recently watched Ato Amanuel Sahle’s well composed in content and demeanor take on the history of the peoples of Eritrea and Tigrai. The fact of the matter is that they are one people divided due to historical contingencies and lack of political vision of leaders with myopic mindset.

          What Ato Amanuel Sahle stated can make Higdef’s high priests rattled and nervous for they animated their support for Isaias precisely on the kind of impassioned hate they have toward Tegaru. As a private citizen and public intellectual, Ato Amanuel Sahle has the moral imperatives to educate particularly the youth the true history of their forefathers but he doesn’t own the lisence to pressure people to subscribe what he thinks is right for future Eritrea. Simply because, ultimately it is the people’s choice to navigate their political destiny–either to create a Tigrai-Tigrigni political community or two independent nations who share common history with separate vision. In fact, that kind of open discussion ought to happen in Eritrea for it is one of the pillars of cultivating civic culture but obviously one can not reason out in an abnormal and irrational state.

          • Peace!

            HI Paulosay,

            ነዛ ረፈረንደም እሞ ብምንታይ ክንከድና ብሞግዲ, ቴንዳ, ዚንጎ?

            Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            I honestly see it coming but not as referendum per se but through a natural process. Thing is, by then, you and i, we will be old timers for it might take a couple of decades for it to take a solid hold.

          • Hope

            Selam Dottore:
            FYI and for the records,that was,NOT only PIA’s vision, but that osf most of us and had things went thru smoothly for the last 30 yrs,it was guaranteed that we could have been integrated somehow in one way or another. and we would not fight the way we are doing it now..
            And who MESSED up?
            My guess is yours

          • Hope

            Peace:
            Speak up the truth,man!
            Where was Amanuel Sahle from 1998-20018 when Eritrea and Eritreans were suffering from a threat of survival as a nation and as a people by the same people Ayte Amanuel Sahle is representing and speaking on their behalf to tell us that “ We are brothers”?

            Who said :

            “The spinal cord of the Highland Eritreans and Christians will be broken?”
            -“We will make them to die a slow death!???”

            “We deported them coz we didn’t like the color of their eyes. ?????

            “We will make Eritrea to collapse over night and deplete the EDF and the Youth through the No War No Peace Policy”??

            And where was Ayte Amanuel Sahle when the above were declared by the same people he is representing and talking on their behalf?

            Blin has a point,as always!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Paulos,

            Can I ask you a question?

            Which Eritrea do you intend to unite with Tigrai?

            Al-Arabi

          • Al Akhuna Al Ustazz Al Kebir Hameed Al-Arabi,

            This is a case similar to what you earlier enlightened me with. It is a case of “SELF RESPECT!” The Professor Paulos Denmarkino AArkey is clearly respecting himself in defending and advocating for SCHOLARLY inquiries and studies to anything under the sun and beyond the galaxy. This includes the feasibility studies or at least a more closer ties, trade and relations of the two brothers and sisters of Eritrean and Ethiopia. Starting at the border of present day Tigrai and Eritrea.

            I was not aware that there were TWO or More Eritrea s? There is ONLY and will FOREVER be ONE Eritrea! Al itiHAd .So your the answer to your question is pretty obvious because you know very well THERE COULD ONLY BE ONE Eritrea. Professor Paulos’ answer I am sure will have the same Eritrea you have in mind. Correct me if I have erred.

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selamat Tsatse Arkey,

            Thank you so much. That is precisely my point. There is and will always be one Eritrea! That said however, we have to be true to our history for there is no shame in saying that we are one and the same with Tegaru. And we will see how the future pans out where people are left to own their destiny with no prescription from anyone. No ideology but pragmatism should be the guiding principle.

          • መርሓባ ጳውሎስ፡

            ናይ ሓወቦኻ ምራጭ (ምራጭ ሓቀይ?) ፍልስፍና ናይ ኢኮኖሚ ወይ ንግዲ ዘዕለልካና ኣስተምህሮታትን ዛዕባታትን (አንተ ወሓደ ኣብ ክባቢኡ) ግልጽ አንተበልና፥ ሰብ ከም ቀደሙ ክነግድ፡ ኣብ ድላዩ ክመላለስ፥ ሸፋቱ ወይ ጦርነት ከብቅዕ፥ ኮታ ኢቲ ክምዝባልካዮ (ወይ ከም ሓወቦኻ ምራጭ ብ ዝቐለለ ዘስተምህሮ) ዋላ ሓደ አንተ ዘይኮና ምስ ተጋሩ፥ ሓደ አንተ ኾና ክብ ሕጂ ን መጻኢ ግዜ፡ መመዕበሊ ክልቴና ህዝቢ ብ ኣሽሓት ግዜ ንረብሓሉ ግዜን፥ ሰላምን ርግኣትን ዝዓሰሎ ሰፊሕ መሬት ዘኽስብ ስጉምቲ ጥራይ ኢዩ ክኸውን ዝኽአል፥፥

            ንባዕሎም አቶም ሃብቲ ህዝብን ትካላቱን መንዚዖም ፕራግማቲክ ስጉምትታት ናብ ዝያዳ ዝተሓናፋፈጸሉን ዝተኣሳሰረሉን አቲ ዝምድናታት ክልቲኡ መንግስታት ትግራይን መንግስቲ ኢሰያስን፥ ሕጂ ውን ከምዝሰርሑሉን ኣይጠራጠርን ኢየ ኣነ፥፥ ሽርክነት ከም ዘለዎም፥ ኩሉ ስርሖም ንህዝቢ ዘታልልን ዘስክረን ኣርአስትታት ኣልዒሎም ከም ናይ ቀደሞም ዝምድናታት ናይ ሎሚ መሳፍንቲ ኣብ ቦቱኡ መሊሰሞ ኢዮም፥፥
            አቲ ፕራግማቲዝም ባዕሉ ክነታት ዓለምናን ምንቃሕ (ኮንሼስ-ነስ ኦፍ ሁማኒቲ) ጸቕጢ ዓበይቲ ናይ ዓለም ኮርፐረሽን…. ወዘተረፈ ፈትዮም ከይ ፈተው፥ ኣብ ነናይሕድሕዶም ምሙሩካስ (ኢንተርድፐንደንስ) ብዙሓት ሓያላት ጎንጽታት ደራሪኹ ጎቲቱ ከብጽሖም ኢዩ፥፥ ነዞም ዓያሹ ወያነ ዶ ዓጋመ አንዳበሉ፥ ከምዛ ኤርትራ ሕሉፍ ንዐኦም ጥራይ ትብጽሖም፥ ብ ኣዝዩ ድኹም ድምጾም ከምኡ በሉ ስለ ተብህሉ፥ ብፍርሒ ተስቂቖም ወግሐ ጸብሐ አንተ ደጋገሙልካ፥ ስለ ብሓቂ ዝኣመንዎ ከይ መስልካ፥ ብዙሕ ከኣ ኣይተድህበሎም፥ መኽንያቱ ክብደት ዝወሓዶም ሕሱራት ፍርሒ አቶም ጎበላት ዝልአኽዎም ዝመልኡዎም ድሁላት ፍጥረት ኢዮም፥፥

            አታ ሓቂ ናይ ለብዘበን ዘላ፥ ውሑዳት ተበልጽቲ ምስ መንግስቲ ኢሰያስ ኣፍጸይቂ፣ መንግስቲ ወያነ ደብረጼን ምስ መንግስቲ ኣቢይ ቡዙሕ ናይ ታሕቲ ታሕቲ ናይ ሸቐጥ ሓበራዊ ትካላት ተመስሪቱ ይምስረትን ኣሎ፥፥ ኢቲ ሎጂስቲክስ ናይ ኢትዮጵያ (ትግራይ ሓዊስካ) ኣዝዩ ካብዛ ኤርትራና ምዕባሌኣ ዝተጎተት ስለ ዝበልጽ፥ ብዙሓት ትካላት ናይ ኢትዮጵያ ናይ ሱሳ ኣርባዓ ሽርክነት ምስቶም ስሱዓት ሒደት ኤርትራውያን የዋፍራ ከም ዘለዋ ክንፋልጥ ኣሎና፥፥
            ሕሉፍ ሓሊፉ፥ ብ ታሪኽ ናይ ኤርትራውያን ተንቲነን ኤርትራውያን ዓማዊል ደሊበን፥ አቶም ኤርትራውያን ከኣ ናይ ዕለም ዓማዊል ይስሕቡለን፥ አዘን ትካላት ከኣ ሃብቲ ብቐሊሉ ይሓፍሳ፥፥ ዘይ ሕጋዊ ሽርክነት ዝፈረሙ ውሑዳት ተብለጽቲን ምስ ስርዓት ኢ. ኣፍጸይቂ፥ ንህዝቢ ኣድኪዩ ኣደንቊሩ ኣብ ዕስክርና ጂሆ ሒዙ፥ ካብ ደብረጽዮን ወያነ አተን ኣርበዓ/ሰላሳ/ዕስራ ካብ ሜቲ ዝተቶኽበሉ ኣሜን ኢሉ ይቕበል ኣሎ፥፥ አቶም ወያነ ወያነ ዝብሉ ኽኣ፥ መዕኮር ወያነ አንዳሰዓሙ ብሑቡአ፥ ትርፊ ቅንኦም፥ ነታ ርፍራፍ ኢጃሞም ብህርፋን መታን ክረኽቡ፥ ኮነ ኢልካ ህዝቢ ዘደንግር ተንኮለኛ ስልቲ ኢዮም ዝኽተሉ ዘለው፥፥
            ሕሉፍ ሓሊፉስ፥ ን ጀነራል ኢብራሂም ዓፋ፥ ዝንኡን ታሪኹን ግርሙኡን ስአልታቱን ኣብ መርበብ ኣቕሪበን መኽሰብ ዘለዎ ሸቐጥ ዝገብራ ዘለዋ ብዙሓት ትካላት ናይ ኢትዮጵያ ኣጓኒፈናኒ፥፥ ምስልታት ኤርትራ ካብ ኩርናዕ ናብ ኩርናዕ ከኣ ን ስጋብ ምስራቕ ኡሮፕ ዋላ ራሻውያን ኩቦንያታት ተኾናቲሮኦን ወኒንኦን ረኺበዮ፡፡ በቲ ናተይ ዝስሕበኒ (ኢንተረስተይ) ምኽኒያት፥ ከመይ ጌሩን ንመን ወጻኢ ሃገራት ካብ ኢትዮጵያ ስጋብ ኡሮፕ ኣሜርካ ኩቦንያታት ን ኤርትራ ከም ዝሸጣ፥ ይሸጣ ከምዘሎን ከጽንዖ ክኢለ፥፥ ተጠቕምቲ ከኣ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዘይኮነስ፥ አቶም ሕደት ተበለጽትን ንሱን ኢዮም፥፥ ኤርትራስ ሕደግ ዶ ምስ ትግራይ፥ ሙሉአ ኢትዮጵያ ሰጊራ ን ዓልም ሸይጦማ ኢዮም፥፥ ጪብጢታት ዳኣ ሕዝናልኩም ክንቅርብ፥፥

            አታ ኢርትራ ሓንቲ ዘይትምቀል ንዘላለም ነባሪት ኣብ ልብናን ይአምሮናን ሪኢናያን ኣስተማቕርናያን ከነስተማቕራን ኢና፥፥ ከም ዘም ዓያሹ ወይ ተብለጽቲ አንታይ ሙኻና ኤርትራ ዘይፈልጡ ኣበይ ከም ትርከብ ኣሰር ዘይብሎም፥ ን ሓዎም ህዝቢ ተጋሩ ኣርሒቕም ዝግዕሩ፥ ፕራግማቲክ ዘይኮኖ ዓያሹ ልኡኻትን ተበልጽቲ ዝተሓወሶም ከም በዓል ኒትሪክ ብሊንክ ገዲፍካ ተዘረብ፥፥
            አታ ኤርትራ ንዘልኣልም ከይተመቕለት ነባሪት ዝብላ ኣነ፥ ኣብ ፍትሒ ጽኑዕ አምነት ሃሊዋ ስጋብ ፍትሒ ዝነግሳ
            ዝህልዋ
            ፍትሒ ዝህልዋ ኢያ ኤርትራ ናይ

            ጅሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • Paulos

            ሰላም ጻጸ ዓርከይ,

            ኩሉ እቲ ቀለም ኣውዲቕካ ዝበልካዮ ብጽሞና ነቢበዮ፣ ከምቲ ሓወቦይ ምራጭ ዝበሎ እቲ ልዙብን ጽፉፍን ጽሑፍካ መሬት ዘይወድቕ እዩ፣ ኮታስ እነሀልካ ራእሲ ወዲ ኩዶፈላሲ ዘብል’ዩ! ቀደሙስ ጻጸ ዓርከይ መን’ዲኻ! ወዲዞም ለባማት ወሓለ ወዲዞም በላሕትን ሞጊቶም ዝረትዑ ንሰቦም ዘኹርዑ ሰብ’ኣእምሮ ወደባት ዶይኮንካን!

            ከምቲ ዝበልካዮ: እዛ ምጭውትን ኮኾብ ጽሩራ ወርቂ ብሌን ዝኾነት ኤርትራ ሃገርና ጽቡቕ ኣይረኸበትን፣ ነገርግን፣ ናይ ስውኣትና ሕድርን ታሪኻዊ ሓላፍነትን ኣለና ንሓደ መሰረታዊ ዝኾነ ሕቶ ኩላህና ብትብዓትን ብግሉጽነትን ክንብድሆን ክንገጥሞን፣ ንሱ’ኻኣ እንታይ ዝብል ሕቶ’ዩ፣ እዚ ርኹስ ዝኾነ ኣረጊት ሰብኣይ ምስተኣልየ፣ እንታይ ዝዓይነታ ሃገር ኢና ክንምስርትን ክንሃንጽን ዘለና ዝብል እዩ፣

            ስለዚ ነዚ መሰረታዊ ሕቶዚ ክንምልስ: መራሕትና ንታሪኽና ብቕንዕና ተመሊሶም ምንባብ ይግባእ፣ ምንቲምንታይሲ፣ ኣብ ሓቂ ዝተመስረተት ሃገር ዝኾነ ዓይነት ማዕበል ተመጸ ከፍርሳ ስለዘይክእል፣ ቀጺሎም መራሕትና እንታይ እንተገበርና ኢና ህዝብና ነርብሕ ኢሎም ምስህዝቦም ኢሂንምሂን ናይምባል ባህሊ ከማዕብሉ ይግባእ፣ ስለዚ ምስ ተጋሩ ናይ ፖለቲካውን ቁጠባውን ማሕበር ምምስራት ንህዝብና ዘርብሖን ዘማዕብሎን እንተኾይኑ ሓላል ዘይንብለሉ ምኽንያት ክህሉ የብሉን፣ ምኽንያቱ ኣብ ዓለም ዘለዋ ዝማዕበላ ሃገራት ኣብ ዝብጻሕ በጺሐን ዘለዋ እንታይ እዩ ክሰርሕ ዝኽእል ኢለን ብቐጻሊ ስለዝሓታ እዩ፣ ለባምን መስተውዓልን ንህዝቡ ዝሓሊ መራሒ ወርትግ ዝዕወት’ካኣ እንታይ እዩ ክሰርሓልና ዝኽእል ኢሉ ዝሓትትን ምስህዝቡ ዝላዘብን እዩ! ትብዓትን ቆራጽነትን ንጹር ራእይን የድሊ!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I think Hameed asked you a valid question but instead of answering you went on tangent and said something else totally different.

            He asked which Eritrea you wanted to unite with Tigray?

            Now you said, “however, we have to be true to our history for there is no shame in saying that we are one and the same with Tegaru.“.

            Do you think Eritreans other than those from kebesa are one and same people with Tegaru?

            Honestly I think Tigray/TPLF is being a jocker. When they were in charge of Ethiopia, they did all they can to make sure, Eritrea to totally separated and isolated not only from Ethiopia but from all its neighbours and from the world.

            Now that the rest of Ethiopia has caught up to them and they are kicked out never to return back to Ethiopia (by the alliance of Amhara and Oromo), they are looking North and wanting to separate and unite with Eritrea.

            This is going to be at the expense of our people from the lowlands.

            This benefit no body but Tigray and Tigray people alone.

            One people or not, we get nothing in return. They should just keep their Tigray to them selves and leave Eritrea alone.

            And we should remember our history if the past 70 years and the misery that is falling upon us is, always because of one way or another related with that.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            It all started when Ato Amanuel Sahle gave a sort of lecture on the distorted history of the Tigreans that have been churned out starting from Colonial Italy, King Haileselassie including PFDJ in a bid to widen the divide between Eritreans and Tegaru who are essentially one people. We have been indocrinated by all the lies for far too long so much so that we get nervous every time one talks about these particular people on the immediate South. All Ato Amanuel Sahle is rightly saying is that, let’s revise our history and it behooves us to remain true to it. No body is pushing for territorial unity for only the people can do that through a general consent.

            Suppose the next democratically elected leader after the old man is gone is from the Lowlands of Eritrea [I absolutely believe that it is time for some one from the Lowlands to be the next leader] and let’s assume that, for all practical purposes, she pushes for some sort of unity with Tigrai, would we go for it? I leave the question to the Forum.

            Let me preach to you about something you know so well. Canada, in every sense of the word is a miracle nation. Simply because it was able to create a nation out of two people who were opposite in every sense of the word–French and English. As you know, it was the French who took a foot hold on the land particularly on the St. Laurence River area. Right after the American Revolutionary war, the Loyalists fled America and settled mainly in Nova Scotia and later on in the then called Upper Canada–present day Ontario. The French were predominantly Catholic and dependent on agrarian and the English on the other hand were Protestant and more learned including who had been influenced by the political drastic changes in the home country during the English Civil War and Revolutionary War which had given the Parliament more power over the Monarchy. In light of that stark reality between these two dramatically opposite people, would you think, it could have been possible to create a unified nation? Very unlikely. But that is what skilled and great leaders do. The first Prime Minister of Canada John McDonald, for instance. He gave the French the right to follow their own law and observe their own religion and funded their schools so that they can develop their own language.

            He could have resorted into violence to suppress them but he opted for civil culture which have been Canada’s signature ever since. More over, when they curved out the Praire provinces out of the huge land which was known as Rupert’s Land West of Ontario, he faced a stuff resistance from the Metis [A product of Cree and Assiniboine mothers and French and Scotish fathers] who saw themselves as a distinct society, he used his political savvyness and charm and brought them to the fold. What I am saying is that, as much as politics is the art of the possible, great leaders always look for what not only works but for what is good for the people.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulo,

            I hope and wish the next leader of Eritrea be from lowlands. Because I believe that, for the first time, Eritrea will have a leader who will put Eritrea’s people interests first before anyone else.

            Unfortunately all our past leaders from the highlands since the time of Raesi Woldemichael, be it Tedla Bairu, Tedla Uqibit, Asfaha Woldemichael, Harogot Abay, Qeshi Dimetros, Isayas Afeworki have looked down to the south, Tigray and Amhara, and they turn to be betrayed and cause immeasurable damage not only to the Eritreans from lowlands but to Eritreans from the highlands.

            And at this important time in our history where the power is shifting and we have some hope to remove the dictator back home, and set the course of our history and repaire the damage, we are being distracted by this talk of “unity” and “hade hizbi” halewlow.

            Amanuel Sahel is entitled to his opinion but the fact that he is located in Tigray and making all this argument I take it very suspiciously. I feel there is a huge conflict of interests. I don’t know if was the same meeting but I think he was there, and the comments that I heard by some of the participants were basically the same. We are one people, we are all Tegaru, etc etc. Aksum belongs to the people north of mereb and Adulis belongs to us south of Mereb. There is no Aksum without Adukis etc.

            If you ask me, I wish all Africa was one country, and it’s only boarder was the sea and ocean. But this talk of unity, etc is devious and it will further destroy our people and will lead us to extinction.

            And we should learn from our past mistakes and work never to repeat that same mistake again. Sure, good neighbourhood, free trade, free movement, etc no body is against it. It’s all over the world, and it will no different just as it’s with Sudan but nothing else, at least for the foreseeable future, where Eritrea can stand in its own, and build its economy, it’s political system, it’s legal system, its democracy, its education etc, without complicating political mess from the south. They have to figure out what they need to do with their own region and their country.

            For Canada, all you stated is correct, except if you are aboriginal Canadian. For all the wealth and for all the prosperity CANADA has enjoyed, its abhorring the living conditions of the native people.

            CBC ideas had a documentary in celebration of Canada 150 years as a nation and one of the talk was, how John A. should be have been tried for crimes against humanity for what he did to the native people.

            But for me, Canada history has parallel to what I hope future Eritrea would be. United two distinct culture and religion, respected each other differences but united against one big enemy from the south but live united in peace.

            It’s the threat of the US that united the French and the English that led them to compromise and build something.

            And the story of Eritrea if the 50s is not different, except they should never have agreed to federate with Ethiopia at all. That mistake is what we are paying until today. And it’s the same mistake if we ever to repeat it again.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            I hope and wish the next leader of Eritrea be from lowlands.

            Hi Berhe; is this you???? hmmmmmm. Okay I am going to pretend that is you the Berhe I get to know. I am guessing someone is usuing your name and account. Anyway; if Eritrea to have any chance, any chance at all, then and only then by hook or crook, if we have to, rig the election to elect a lowlander to be the leader of Eritrea. The End of the story!!!!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            We don’t need to rig election, or cheat or steal. We just need to give our people the chance to exercise their right to elect their own leader freely. I am sure they will pick the right leader who has Eritrea and Eritrean people at his heart, and that’s more than good enough for me.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            We don’t need

            Berhe; excuse me but you are willfully Canadian so, save us from this “WE” BS, please.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            Hangol derho you never grow up.

            And you are what citizen? Did you renounce your US citizenship?

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; I am a citizen of the USA. I am not Eritrean i.e. I have no say at what Eritreans do or think. I can suggest my idea but I have no right in to their political affairs. This applies to you and your kinds who willfully gave up their Eritrean citizenship in order to get another one i.e. those people have no right to say a word about the country they discarded of. NONE! so, shut up!!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            ShitaraKa dewir….it’s arabic. You don’t want to pay the 2%:).

            We did not gave up our citizenship in order to get another one, Eritreans are pushed out of their country because of a the brutal regime you support.

            BTW, in Canada dual citizenship is allowed:).

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            I completely agree with the first paragraph of your comment – to see a leader from our lowlanders. Because, they are by far more “tolerant and patient” than us – the highlanders. Unfortunately, the highlanders are not ready for that. Let alone to give them the highest office of government, even the “fair share” concept irritates them. They think the power belongs to them. Berhe, we need change from this dictatorial mind that eats our social fabric.

            Regard

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amanuel,

            I think the history of our leaders from the highlands is murky and full of mystery. The fact that we are not even able to speak and ask a simple Bio of who our leaders are is a source of our problems. Everyone wants to play an angel and everyone wants to avoid the basic question, who are these people in power in Eritrea today.

            I do not believe the people from the highlands of Eritrea (the most majority) have any issue with having anyone from the lowlands to be in power.

            Our problem is, those who have the tendency who wanted to unite Eritrea with Ethiopia and Tigray have the upper hand and the loudest mouth and doing all the talking and the planning for us. It’s the reason why the federation failed and it’s the reason why Eritrea is on the path of destruction. They do not have any loyalty to Eritrean the the Eritrean people.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            I could tell you with certainty that the highlanders are not ready for an Eritrean Muslim leader. Let me share you a short history. I was sent for a short assignment by the social Affairs office of ELF organization to the highland of Eritrea, particularly to the provinces of Serae and Hamassien. On my trip to that region, I was talking with the elders of some villages about the need of unity for Eritreans. On all the talks I made with those elders they express their uneasiness with ELF organizations. When I asked them why? They told me that our Leaders are Muslims. I tried to explain that is not true. Our leadership is are composed of both Christian and Muslims. Second, while I was baffling by that wrong perception (orientation), I went to one village where teams of both organizations are waiting food to eat from the residents of the village. The EPLFites, after they eat their food, they call the villagers to give them political orientation. The cadre, opened his speech by saying “አዴታት ኣቦታት ንሕና ኢና ደቅኹም” referring to us that we are from the others -none of their sons. Then I new that the concern of the elders was from the propaganda feeding of EPLFites. Those kinds of feelings are rooted in the political psyche of our people in the highland. If not in your kitchen table, it is the talk of the majority highlanders kitchen table, that they are not ready for a Muslim leader. I have done my assessment on that issue for years. The response of Nitric to your comment is in itself a microcosm of the fact that they are.

            Regards,

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amanuel,

            I think what you observed may have been true 40 years ago due to a lot of reason, propaganda among the main reason.

            But Eritreans gave learned a lot since, albeit the hard way. The new generation of Eritreans, I believe are a lot more open and a lot more assertive than our population was at the.

            As much as Isayas has created Sawa to be a bondage of our youth, I believe he has created a burial side for his evil ideas, it has become the breeding ground of his resistance but more importantly the breeding ground for ERITREAN loyalist.

            I think his speech of Aykesenan and that “we are one people” has become the wake up call of Eritreans, but particularly the people of the highlands.

            I personally do not believe we have to elect people based on their ethnicity or religion but based on their merit, so long as it’s done in open and transparent manner., and I believe most Eritreans will do the same.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            I saw a retreat in this comment (in your last paragraph) from your first comment, that I have jumped to support you. That is a “smart retreat” ናይ ጎርሓት ኣዛላልቃ ገይርካያ:: You gave us the same excuse of the deniers though I am not saying to you a denier. That is a cover up reason for not giving the opportunities to them by the power holders, though there are many capable men from their side. I am sure it is this attitude that puts them on opposite end of the spectrum. You see Berhino, the solution for this is simple: it is equitable fair sharing. There is no other solution to live in a harmony.

            Regard

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amanuel,

            Either you didn’t understand what I was trying to say or I have not done good job explaining what I meant.

            First, let’s agree to the nation that, Eritrea belongs to all of us. No body has the power to give or no body has the power to take away. Those who are in power today, they are in power by force. No body gave them the mandate to do be in power in the first place. And we don’t ask or beg an illegitimate and an illegal government to be fair.

            Having said that, I don’t think we should create a pre-determined outcome in any of the problems that we are trying to find a solution. Suppose you Amanuel Hidrat run against Saleh Younis and based on your political plan and based on your ability to convenience the people, I believe, the Eritrean people have the ability to make a decision that’s suitable for them.

            I am not implying how power is distributed, like how many people from this region or that religion should be in power, in the house of Parliament or if we need a quote system for women, etc.. which is off course needs to be determined by experts and by law.

            What I am saying is, who ever needs to come to power as long as he comes through legal means (agreed upon) he or she needs to have the support and the mandate of the Eritrean people. Other than that, I want Eritrea to be a normal country like any other normal country. We are lucky that in Eritrea, the power balance is shared equable that there will not be skewed because of population/misalignment. And we should learn from mistakes of others (like those in the south) that grouping the Tigrina as one is a huge mistake and a recipe for disaster. It will be safe approach if we leave the three awaraja in their original make up and divide the power based of these “Tigriana” group.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            “ We are lucky that in Eritrea, the power balance is shared equable that there will not be skewed because of population/misalignment”.

            Wow! Are we reading two different Eritreas? Brother, those who are marginalized will tell you different story. I doubt you know the grievances of our society. So in our Eritrea, there is a shared balance of power. ሕማሙ ዘይፈልጥ ህዝቢ ፈውሲ ሕማሙ ክረክብ ዘበት’ዩ:: ንሱኸአ እዩ ኣብ ሸንኮለል ነሕልፎ ዘለና::

            Regards

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amanuel,

            I think you really are trying not understand me. How many times do I have to say it, the current regime in Eritrea is illegal. It doesn’t represent me, and I don’t think it represent you either. So why should I be held accountable by this despicable regime for all the injustice that’s inflicted in our people.

            ሕማሙ ዘይፈልጥ?? Really, I am sick, sick beyond repair about these current regime. The whole Eritrean population is marginalized and sick by this mafia regime and second class citizen in his or her own country.

            What I write and say is, for the future and legal and just Eritrea. Yes, Eritrean population as far as I know between Muslim and Christian, highland and lowland is 50-50 if that’s changed then I don’t know.

            How have I and the likes of me benefited from this regime. The only people who are benefiting by the regime is, those who are associated with it, the rest, like everyone else is victims.

            Do you think I care or will I be upset, if Isayas Afeworki tomorrow replaces, all those Christians in his power circle with Eritrean from the lowlands and run the country the same way.

            I am sorry to say but sometimes I think you really like ሸንኮለል.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            I am generally referring to our society. “ህዝቢ” ማለት society እዩ ዘስምዕ:: በርሀ ማለት ኣይኮነን:: ናይ ሸንኮለል “ተጋላበጣይ” ሓሳባት ሕጅካ ድሕሪ መጺእካድአ ሸንኮለል ንብልወ:: second, I think I quoted your words. I clearly understood your quoted words.

            Regards

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Amanuel,

            I think we are not going far with this. I really do not understand what we are arguing about.

            Which Eritrea do you have in mind. Today Isayas Eritrea or the future Eritrea after he is gone. I was talking about the future Eritrea, when I said what I said.

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Emma/Berhe nebsi,
            Few years ago, there was a list of Eritrean majors/captains/colonels/generals floating somewhere on the web and the ratio of christians/muslims was too big. According to that, there is no power balance in Eritrea. There is one ratio that is balanced almost even though: ratio of execution, imprisonment, suffering, etc. of christians/muslims =~1

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mehandis,

            I think my comment with regards to power balance, I was looking at the general population of Eritrea. What I had in mind was, the division between Christian and Muslims, between highland and lowland population.

            I was not looking at the current regime and I don’t expect that we will have this system to continue once the regime is toppled.

            I was thinking when the future parliament of Eritrea.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mahandsay,

            You read it in “The Lost Rainbow” by Ahmed Raji. I think there were four parts of it. The marginalization was not only in the military ranks but also on the employees of the other ministries. Those series of articles were an exposition to the marginalization in the Eritrean Government. You could try to find it in the archives of Awate.com.

          • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

            Yes you are write. The statistics was reported by Ahmed Raji. The statistics is correct and irrefutable. I just like to point out that I wouldn’t call it a few years ago. It is over a decade years old. There has also been a few, what I consider to be significant, indices, trends including draconian measures and tightening of control by the regime that gave birth or rise for what we collectively call and consider lowlanders organizing and adapting to achieve gains in their utilization of the resources and access of what Eritrea has to offer in spite or having the desire of lot more. The exodus of the highlanders does also favor the lowlander. My point I would like you, the Muhandis and Berhe_Y to consider is, there has been shifts in the other direction that we can not confidently site the mentioned statistic. We simply do not have an accurate measure of a more recent to consider a bench mark for absolute or near absolute conclusions. As Berhe_Y mentioned the effects of the undesired military institution could have contributed to some improvement in the numbers Ahmed Raji reported. Does any one out there know or have current data of the same or possibly expanded or shrunk available positions. One thing is for sure, Eritrean Retirees category should see a significant jump shortly and the dire needed young leadership Eritrea needs will give us some clue as to whether it is more or less diverse than a decade or four decades ago.
            We need another Ahmed Raji to share data on this important diversity issue. We can avert a lot of divisive conflicts and filter out all the special interest advocates that are counter productive noise.

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Solomon,

            Since Ahmed’s article were floated, to be exact in 2009, you are right I could have said it a decade ago. Back to your point. Two things: if our rainbow was lost a decade ago, nothing is changed since then. Our rainbow still does not exist colorfully intacted, as we love to see them. If there is nothing change since 2009, then nothing will change to the general statistics forwarded by our own – Ahmed Raji. Bless him, he gave us a good insight on the marginalization inside our country. It was the nature of the regime in place that created at that time and it is same regime with all its policies still remains in place. If you can’t see it that way, we leave it that way as point of our difference,

          • MuHandis-MiEbale,

            Then the math says more victims for less pay
            every day
            they say
            The math says the ratio of beneficiaries of the those who
            perished and made to disappear is a lot less more
            though their numbers swelled a thousands fold
            in a generation… the math says the ratio is unballanced
            is un proportional even though the suffering is equal
            The question is how do you reach ideal equitable
            do you reduce or eliminate all sufferings particularly the self induced
            kind and redistribute all tangibles through physics and spirit
            the language of course must be: the math says we have reached equilibrium…
            Is there a need to double check the math ratio and delta
            for the lambda of the function gamma

            yom Al JumAA fi PortMassawa مع

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc

            “ We are lucky that in Eritrea, the power balance is shared equable that there will not be skewed because of population/misalignment”.

            Hi Aman-H; I am the last person to defend Berhe but anyone who displays the truth should be defended. it is an absolute truth what has Berhe told you above. As much as you hate the government of Eritrea, it is only fair and just for you to acknowledge the absolute truth. You can’t even name who the beneficiary is in today’s Eritrea and that should tell you Berhe’s truthful statement.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Berhe Y,

            You are right when you said, “who ever needs to come to power as long as he comes through legal means (agreed upon) he or she needs to have the support and the mandate of the Eritrean people.”

            Yes, through legal means (agreed upon). Definitely, you mean a contract that all Eritreans agree upon and sign it, the rest is a foregone conclusion.

            I thank and encourage you for this open-minds advanced presentation.

            Al-Arabi

          • Hope

            Selam Prof Aman:
            U confidently declared saying:
            “Unfortunately, the highlanders are not ready for that.:
            I think this statement is NOT only politically incorrect but a dangerosu one.
            The fact is the other way round.

          • Blink

            Dear Hope
            You can see they already made the highlanders guilty for every failure and from that the man has no issue to say what he said . For these kind of people it only matters about revenge. Revenge is what pushing them to say wild things .

          • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

            A simple or a few simple questions:

            You say: “Unfortunately, the highlanders are not ready for that.”
            If you consider yourself a highlander then is it fair to say “the highlanders”? You are a stickler for precision. So wouldn’t it be fair to say “some highlanders are not ready for that”? Should you choose “most” or “the majority” for your use of “the highlanders” then at the very least you are illustrating a some what malleable and changeable “Eritrean social group.” Otherwise you are sounding like a pessimist and as one who is content and not an agent of change. I rather prefer you not make absolute statements. For the record I do not consider myself a highlander. Had I not been a lowlander I would have said see: we are Two wo wo wo waàáâäæãåā

            when will they be ready for?

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Solomon,

            In sociopolitics, since everything is about the majority, we always “weigh in” the positions of the majorities. So when I say “the highlanders” it is implicitly understood that I am referring to the “majority highlanders.” There is no such absolute unanimous position on sociopolitics in any given society. If that is the case, you know what my statements do mean.

            Second, of course I am from the heartland of the highland, and as such “Christian Highlander.” One has to advocate against any injustice (be it religious, political, social, or economic). I don’t prescribe to the argument we are all oppressed equally. Since the nature of oppressions varies when they are imposed on different social groups, I try to find out the nature of grievances from all our “social groups” to address them specifically to their natures. We are oppressed by a dictator is not enough if we don’t know the specific natures of the oppressions.

            My fight is more against the “tyranny of the majority” than against an “individual dictator.” Hence my focus is for social justice in the aftermth of the tyrannical regime. The fight for equitable justice to our social groups. I am fighting against any “unjust mind” that dictates the Eritrean politics.

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            We will have a constitutionally elected government; and being the constitution the supreme law of all (all citizens including leaders abide by it), I think the lowlanders would be very happy to see a Muslim brother/s lead the nation. Most important thing is the militarization of the highlanders needs to stop and a civilian democratic government has to be established. We must learn from what is going in Ethiopia, the next door neighbor. At least, they won’t call our Muslim leader a weyane after everything is done. It will be good to build good relationship with all of our neighbors including the tigrians as it should. He/she will make Eritrea great again:)

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Berhe Y,

            Any people to develop they should succeed in three things.

            1- Everything should pass through the court of the mind. The history and culture of the nation should be subjected to scientific researches by scholars.

            2- Values of freedom, justice, respect, honesty, rights, etc. should shift from theory to process on the ground. That means, we should observe them practiced practically on the ground.

            3- Embrace innovators and protect them.

            …………………………………………………………………..

            Rene Descartes the father of modern philosophy says:

            “I think; therefore I am.”

            “I am a thing that thinks, that is to say, a thing that doubts, affrims, denies, understands a few things, is ignorant of many things, wills, refrains from willing, and also imagines and senses.”

            Al-Arabi

          • Senay Zer

            Dear Berhe — I watched the video of the said discussion about Eritrea and Tigray tigrignas. I have a lot to say about the organizers and specially Ato AS, but for now, I’ll give them benefit of the doubt and just bring up a few general points. The first one is that there seem to be some general and exaggerated apprehension by both tigrigna speaker about their culture, identity etc. I think they need to relax and feel proud of themselves – despite all that happened in the 1000s of years since the fall of the Axumite Kingdom, tigrigna as culture, language and identity is distinctively identifiable, and is alive and kicking. After that, tigrigna speakers in Eritrea and tigray need to have a good look at themselves and have some self awareness because they seem to be too busy pointing fingers at other groups near and far for the animosity between them and the instability in the region – this is clearly noticeable from the the speakers on both sides in the said video. They seem to have forgotten that, in 98-00 it is a tigrigna dominated group in Eritrea which dragged all the other ethnic groups, all the human and capital resources of the country to go to a senseless war against Ethiopia, a country that was also ruled by another tigrigna dominated group which dragged all the other ethnic groups, all the human and capital resources of the that country to fight that same senseless war. The participant of that meeting seem to be mindbogglingly oblivious to this fact, that the foolishness of tigrignas costed the various ethnic groups in the region dearly in the past quarter of a century. I think the tigrigna speakers in tigray and eritrea need to discuss their issues, narrow down their difference and strive to build expansive and all encompassing relationship so that the rest of the ethnic groups in the region could have a chance at living peacefully. The talk of forming of one country for tigrigna speakers is both nauseating (if you consider the reasons they give for that) and befuddling (if you consider these are two group of people who couldn’t close out a deal that is unlike any other agreements in how very clear, specific and easy to implement it is – clearly 90% of the blame goes to tplf here). And finally, the participants seem to be desperate to scratch ancient history to find some agreed up on fable (to paraphrase napoleon) – as if the commonality and familial relationship between the two people is not self evident (evidence, look how the two people needed no mediation of the out of touch elitist to come together and embrace each other after the border opened last year).

          • ዓሽግ መንገዲ ጽረግ
            ሕግሕግ ሓጋግግ
            ሕጊ ሓግግ!!!

            ድግ ድጋግግ
            ድርግ ርግ!
            ዳርጋ ድራርጋ
            ድርግ ርግ!!!

            ድርግርግርግርግ ታ
            ተተታትርግ ትርግርግ
            ትርጋ ትርግ ትግርርር
            ርርርርራኣኣኣራረርርረ
            ብል ልብልብልብ ብልብልብል
            ልብ ባ ባ ትርግትርግርግርግ
            ኛ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            ጅሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • Selamat Berhe_Y,

            “… our past leaders”. & ” Isayas Afeworki ”

            Great Alex and hope will canonize you now that you have come to your senses.

            Warning: Please recognize the sarcasm. else they will relegate you from Adwa!
            Blind fools don;t even have a clue who is?

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Thomas

            Hi Paulos,

            I want to see Eritrea have a legally chosen government (democratically & constitutionally – representatives from all sectors of Eritrea). The constitution being the supreme and all citizens including the president or prime ministry/everyone is under it. Having this under consideration, I do not care if our future leaders are from Muslims or Christians or Jehovah’s witnesses or the Pentecostal religion…. However, I wanted to see none of the Religion inspired leaders, but those who have the discipline (humanity) gain from religion. Any candidate running for a leadership has to be scrutinized for his ability and character to lead our great nation. I would have preferred a muslim leader who have all the qualifications to lead the nation this time because it will be good for the unity of the currently divided Eritrean people. Let’s pray though we won’t see leaders like that of Mahamudai and the Osmans (like the current foreign Minister we have). We have had enough of the dictators and the dictator boot-lickers.

          • Paulos

            Selam Thomas,

            Why did Isaias push Rommodan Nur aside and took the mantle of power? The reason was not Nur was incompetent but because Isaias already made sure that the Lowlanders were under his wings through appeasement and preferential treatment to the extent where the revolting spirit of Awate in them was dead almost for good. It may equally be the case with the person you mentioned who is holding one of the senior positions in Isaias’ cabinet.

            I intend to leave it to serious historians if Colonial Italy, the King and the Colonel followed the same policy of appeasement where Awate was the exception. That is to say that, if the Lowland elites benefited for parochial gain at the expense of the majority, in a democratic Eritrea, all of us from the Highlands should give our vote to a competent candidate from the Lowlands for they have been cheated for far too long. When I say, a competent person, what I have in mind is a healer, a unifier and who always looks for the better angels among us if I could borrow Abe Lincoln’s notable say.

          • Thomas

            Hi Paulos,

            I sometimes think the debate going here is just for fun for some people. Yes, it is not like there was no Muslims in the leadership of DIA and those who were serving as protectors of PFDJ. They were very large in number. However, they were all puppets of the dictator. Guess who was leading the investigation and the reporting against the G15? Bad examples of our Muslim leaders: Abdella Jaber and Mustapha Nurhussein. I have to say this. I know it is not fair that they became victims of the dictator at last. However, if you happen to find this Mustapha Nurhussien guy video and seeing him bad mouthing the G15 to protect the dictator’s empire:) He was really disguising. So, what I wanted to say they will never protect the rights of our Muslim brothers and sisters but themselves. If we really are meant to help our lowlanders, let them rule their own region and share a power equal or greater of their size and the size of their region. This what I call a serious matter to the ordinary citizens/lowlanders in this case.

          • Hope

            Ahlen Wo Sahlen Habibna Ya Ustazna Wo Saidna Berhe Y.
            A new born Berhe.!!

            Feddel Ya Huna for the Keren Wo Hagaz Style spicy /”Minty” Berad Shahi Misll Shehanfula.

            Keffo haleka Berih?

            Wura Himbralhun Berih Yidan?
            That was hilarious .Berhe.
            Please accept the Honorary PHD from the Awate Uin,Keren Univ and GashBarca as well as from the Red Sea Univ of the Semhar Abbay and Denkalia Universities.

          • Alex

            Hi Berhe,
            Well said my friend. Kudos to that.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan tsatse,

            Civilized peoples prioritize their job. In Eritrea, we have a lot of problems that demand a lot of time to accomplish. I think, Dr. Paulos, as an educated person, should not jump to unity with Tigrai before the realization of the Eritrean people’s unity. First, let us unite as Eritreans and rectify what has gone wrong.

            The Eritrean psyche documents that the source of all our problems immigrated to us from Tigrai. The Eritrean history likewise records them as a very bad neighbor If they wish a good neighborhood with Eritrea, they should change the cunning style they accustomed to practicing in their history with Eritrea.

            I recognized that Dr. Paulos is very inclined to Tigrai than Eritrea. He is more concerned about Tigrai and propagates to direct our youth to the Tigrai. He appears to be loyal to the South than Eritrea. He has the right to concern about Tigrai, but that should not be at the expense of the Eritrean people.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selamat Al Akhuna Al Kebire Hameed Al-Arabi,

            One does not differ in having a civil discourse. One must recognize civilized in oneself though often recognizing it in the other reflects all of your history’s civility.
            I fully agree with your prioritizing our unity as it is natural only after such we can unite with another. The echoes and bouncing winds are swirling… some say we are drifting apart and expanding as does the universe. I do support the cautions you prescribe, yet as it is inevitable path for One Eritrea is to construct the bridges and free flow of goods and services with trust and mutual respect of all the people so that their reach and stretches knows no bounds. First steps are to be taken and a necessity by all participants.

            Walla LaE? Walla AyyWa?

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Alex

            Hi Paulos,
            I knew you are closed agazian. There will be no Tigrai-Tigrigni my friend. You and Tegaru can dream because dreaming is free but that will not happen. Eritrea is a country of 9 ethnic group. We don’t want to be associated with backstabbers.

          • ሰላማት ኣለክሳንደር፡

            Please don’t be a hypocrite! By your reasoning, your Dictator Isaias Afeworqi (more like Isaias AftSeyQi ኣፍጸይቂ) is the biggest Agazziann. Isaias AftSeyQi considered confederation, federation up to union with Meles’ Tigray and Ethiopia immediately after independence. And till this very day he is working diligently to sell Eritrea and make his dream come true.
            I am willing to wager by year 2020 Isaias AftSeyQi will rob you of your 2020 vision and will tell you that he has married Eritrea with Ethiopia WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING NECESSARILY!
            All your hard work is to give advantage to the Sadist Dictator. Don’t worry, I will be there to console you when you open your full 2020 eyesight. You are an intelligent man, you think so at least. What made the ground ripe and conducive for Tigrai-tigrigni platform? I will give you a hint if you have been reading this long thread. The persecution the Ethiopian Jeberti suffered under Yowhans and Alula his General in Eritrea when they fled to their kinfolks Eritrean Jeberti for refuge. These days it is Eritreans fleeing the sadistic dictator Isaias into Tigray and Ethiopia. Hence… the call for Yohannes II.

            Ask who was the V Yohannes and you will learn the truth. The true Yohannes V is:
            Fisehay Yowhannes

            JASHUA! V!

            tSAtSE V for Victorious! V for Vendeta.

          • Alex

            Hi Gitsatse,
            You are becoming boring my friend with you long hateta with a lot of nonsense.

          • ሰላማት እልክሳንደር፥

            ጝሬት! ኖ ናት ዩ ግሪት፥፥ ፓን ኢንተንድድ ሶ ዛት ኣይ ካን ኮንቲንዩ ቦሪን ዩ፥፥ ቢኮዝ ዛት ዋዝ ማይ ሆል ፕላን ቱ ቢጊን ዊዝ፥፥ ቦር ኣለክስ ትሀ ኖት ሶ ግሬት ቱ ደትስዝ፥፥
            ተል ሚ ዚስ፥ ዱ ዮ ትሲንክ ግሬት ኤንድ ኤክሳይቲን ኢንተርትይንመንት ዛት ዮ ኮንሲደርድ ሽንግርዋ
            ሪችድ
            ዘ ግሬተስት ኤርትሬያን አቨር ሊቭድ፥
            ሁ ዱ ዮ ሰይ?
            ኖ ኖት ዘ ኣይዶልስ ዩ ኣር ኣ ግሩፒ ኦፍ
            ኣት ቦርደም ካፒታል ሽንግርዋ
            ዋት ኣን ኢድዮት
            ዱ ዮር ሪሰርች ኤንድ ገት ቱ ኖው

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • ሰላማት ፕርፈሶር ጳውሎስ ደንማርኪኖ ዓርከይ፡

            ቁሩብ አንተ ተዛዊርካ፥ ሓደ ጎስጓስ ዓይኒ ‘ብለይ ስኒ ‘ብለይ ይሃልል ይጂመር ከም ዘሎ ኣስተውዒለ፥፥ አዛ ዝጠቕሳ ዘለኹ ዝበልካያ ሓያሎ ስክፍታት ኣሰኪማትኒ፥፥

            “…ultimately it is the people’s choice to navigate their political destiny–either to create a Tigrai-Tigrigni political community or two independent nations…”

            ሀ) ክልተ ነጻ ሀገራት ኮይነን ኢየን፥፥ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ንነጻነት ኤርትራ መሪጹስ፥ ክልተ ሃገረ ኤርትራን ሃገረ ኢትዮጵያን ቆይመን፥፥ ህዝቢ ትግራይን ህዝቢ ኤርትራን ከ ካብ ብመዓስ ኢዩ ሃገር ትግራይ-ትግርኚ ካርታ ቀሪጹ ብ ንምስትግባሩ ክሓስበሉ ዝጀመረ፥፥ አዚ ኣብ ስነፍልጠት ዝተሞርከሰ ዋላ ንመጽናዕቲ ክቐርብ የብሉን፥፥ ኣስፊሓ አትኸሽፍ ሓዳስ ጥበብ ውን ኣይኮነትን፥፥ ዋላ ንነዊሕ አዋን ኣርሒቓ ጠሚታስ፥ ጥቕምታታ ንህዝቢ ትግራይ ኣካል ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያ ዘኽስር አምበር ዘኽስብ ኣይኮነን፥፥ ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኸኣ፥ ዋላ ንሓጺር አዋን ካብዚ ዘለዎ ጸበባታት ቁሩብ መስተንፍስ መኽሰብ ክረክብ አንተኸኣለ? ንናይ ነዊሕ ጽኑዕን ዘርብሕን ጥቕሚታቱ ኣዝዩ ዝወሓደን፥ አቲ ረብሓታት ከኣ ተጠቐምቱ ኣዝዩም ውሑዳት ተብለጽቲ ጥራይ ኢዩ ክኸውን ዝኽአል፥፥ ደሓር ካኣ ኣኣኣኣዝዚዝዚዚኻ ዝሰሓትካዮ ነጥቢ ኢዚ ኢዩ፥

            ለ) ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ነዞም ትግርኚ ኢልካ ትጽዉዖም ዘለኻ ህዝቢ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፥፥ አቲ ኣብ ትግርኛ ዘይ ቁጸር ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኸ አንታይ ትብሃል ሓዳስ ሃገር ክመርጽ ኢዩ? “ዓረብ ዓራቢ” ዋላ “ሳሆ-ትግራዪት”?

            መ) አንተ ብትግራይ ኮይኑ ዝነፍስ ዘሎ አዚ ሓሳባት፥ ባዚ ዘሎ ስነ-ፖለቲካዊ ስነ-ቁጠባዊ ሃዋሁ፥ ዋላ ትግርኛ በይኑ ተፈልዩ “ትግራይ-ትግርኛ” መሪጹ አንተተፈልየ፥ ንሰንሒት ስምሃር ባርካ ደንከል ሳሕል ጠንጢኑ ራሕሪሑ፥ ኣብ ህዝቢ ትግራይ ተዋሒጡ ብረብሓ አቲ መሰረት ኣዝዩ ርሑቕ ካልኣይ ንቲ ቀዳማይ ተጠቃሚ ናይ ዚ ሕልሚ ውጽኢት ተጋሩ ኢዩ ክኸውን፥፥ ተጋሩ ኸኣ ንትግርኚ ናይ ኤርትራ ኣደልዲሎም ኣጸናኒዖም ን ብምልአታ ኤርትራ ደንክል ሰምሃር ሰንሒት ሳሕል ባርካ ኣከለጉዛይ ሰራየ ሓማስየን ኩላ ኤርትራ “ትግራይ-ትግርኚ” ጠሚቖም ኣብ ረብሓኦምን ረብሓ “ትግርኚ” ከውዕልዋ አታ ሓድስ ሃገሮም ራኢ አንድሕር ኣለዎም? አሞ ኣዝዮም ዕውራት ጸማማት ክኾኑ ኣለዎም ወ ኸኣ ኣብ መዋጥር ቦታ ንነብሶም ቀርቂሮማ ኣለዉ፥፥ ወይ ከኣ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ሓድነቱ ክደክም፥ ኣብ ነንሕድሕዱ ክናኸስ ብቢሂር ብኣውራጃ ብዞባ አሞ፥ ንምአንቲ መሰላቱ ተቓሊሱ ነዚ ጨቛኒ ኣብ ስልጣን ዘሎ ሓይሉ መንዚዕ ሓይሊ ንቲ ዋኑኡ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ከየረክብ፥ ብ ገለ ገለ ስሱዓት ሰብ ስልጣናት ናይ ሎሚ መሳፍንቲ ኣብ ትግራይን ወይ ኣብ ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ዝርከቡ ብሕቡአ ሽርሒ መድናገሪ ኣተሓሳስባን ክዕወት ዘይግብኦ ዘይዕወት ስልቲ ኢዩ፥፥ ከም ነጻ ኣተሓስባ ኣብ ምአንቲ ነጻ ምግላጽ ሓሳብ ውልቀ ሰብ ወይ ሕብረተስብ ኢልካ፥ ዋላ ዝትፈጸመ ግፍዕታት ኣብ ልዕሊ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ጸብጺብካ፥ ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ጉድኣቱን ቁጽሉን አንዳ ኣዃስኻ፥ ከም ፍትሓዊ ምንቅስቓስ ነዚ ዘይሓቂ ዘይፍትሓዊ ተቐባልነት ክትድልበሉ ብግልጺ ይኹን ብሕቡአ ሕቡአ፡ ኣሰራርሓ ምህዞታት ተኻሉ ጌር ኢየ ዝጋልጾ ኣነ፥፥

            ሓ) ጥቕሚ ትግርኛ ኣብ ትግራይ ትግርኛ ኣብ ኤርትራ፥ ፍትሕን ሓድነትን ምሉአ ህዝቢ ኤርትራን፥ ፍትሕን ሓድነትን ምሉአ ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያን ኣብ ዝሰፍንን ዝድልድልን ኢዩ፥፥ ድሓር ሓድነት ሙሉአ ህዝቢ ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ፕራግማቲክ ዲይ ኣይኮነን ትመራመር፥፥

            መ) ካልኦት ከም በዓል በርሀ_የ ሓሚድ ኣል-ዓርቢ ስክፍታኦምን መትከላቶምን ገሊጾምልካ ኣለው፥፥ ዓያሹ ተላኣኽቲ ጎባጢ ስልጣን ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ውን አታ ኣፎምን ኣጻብዕቶምን ግም ማን ኢሎም ጉቡኦም ናይ ሃገራዊ ኣገልጉሎት ካብ ርሑቕ ዘመላኡላ በዓል ኣለክሳንደር ኒትሪክን በዓል ቀባሕባኡ ስቲንክ ኢንክ፥ ጸርፍታት ለጊሶምልካ ኢዮም ከምታ ትአዛዞምን ልአኽቶምን፥፥

            ረ) ናይ ኣቶ ኣማኑኤል ሳህለ ምስ ሚኒስትሪ ኢንፎርመሽን ናይ ኤርትራ ኮይኑ ዝጽሕፎ ዝነበረ ብናይ ገዝአ ርአሰይ ጉዳይ ኣቶኪረ ይከታተሎ ኔረ ኢየ፥፥ ካብ ኤርትራ ምስ በረረ ኽኣ ኣብ ዓዋተ ጽሑፉ ተቕልቂሉ ኢዩ፥፥ ሓሳበይ ብዛዕባ ኣቶ ኣማኔል ሳህለ ንደሓር ይጽነሓልና፥፥

            ተ) ዘይ ተገንዘብክዎ ወይ ጌጋ ኣረኣአያ ኢኻ ሒዝካ ትብለኒ አንት ኲንካ፥ መልስኻ ብክፉት ሓንጎለይ፥ ይጽበየካ። አወ ዶ ኣይዋ!

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

      • Thomas

        Hi Paulos,

        Deep in my mind, I am convinced that this guy is not normal or some wild creature seeking attention from cyber community because people around him hated his gut and refused to help him.

      • Blink

        Paulos
        መዓሰይ ኢኻ ስዕረት ክትቅበል , ንስኻን ወዲ ከማኻን ናይ ስዑራት ሓለፍቲ ብዙሕ ትቅይርዎ የብልኩምን : እታ ሓንቲ ኣማራጺት ኣብ ቅድሚ ናይ ዘመና እሱራት ጀነራላት ተጋሩ ተገቲርኩም ትግራውነትኩም ምዝማር ጥራሕ እያ ዘላትኩም :: እርዳእኩም እዩ እቲ መልሲ :: ንስኻ ስቅ ኢልካ ኮለል ኣየድልየካን እዩ : ተሓጺብካ ጥራይ ደቅስ . ንስኻን ወዲ ከማኻን ኣብ ንግስነት ወያነ ሓሊፍኩም እዩ::

        ኣማኒኤል ናይ ጥፍሽና ባህርታት እዩ ዘርእየና ዘሎ , ሓዲሽ ነገር ኣይኮነን:: ንከቢረ ከም ትግራዋይ ጌርካ ምዝራብ ኣብ ቅድሚ ናይ ማለሊት ሓለፍቲ ሓዲሽ ኣይኮነን .

        Like what I said Amanuel sahle neet a checkups for the things I mentioned like CT , PET and MRI and you know well what are all these exams for . By the way have respect for yourself.

        • Thomas

          Hi Blink,

          I thought I read saying you cannot read or speak tigrigna. I think you are a tigrian who is struggling to climb into power and the weyanes would not let you do that. I am thinking you might be a member of what they call “Arena tigray” or something. Or if you are Eritrean, may be you are the Bruno guy:)

          • Blink

            Dear Thomas
            Not like some people but I tried my best to learn and write the language and you can’t really blame me for trying. You should remember I am not using my skill to admire Meles the evil nor do I entertain any Tigrian thing , anyone with Tigrian thing is ነውሪ for me . You should stick to your old Thomas before we go to another .

            By the way you don’t need to push Paulos for another scale , he is nothing for me , I do not really bother that match.

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            It gets tiresome debating with fit-throwers like yourself. You need to control your temper.

          • Blink

            Dear Thomas
            It is you who interjected not me , You can not really debate with anyone . We have settled many things like this issue long time ago before weyane generals put in to Planet Hotel . You are simply an echo for people like Paulos and Amanuel Hidrat. Repeat what they say to others as I have known the two for a long period of time . ትግራይ ትግሪኚ will not happen and the fact Amanuel sahle put his ሓንቲ ዓለም reputation to a weyane left over money is simply not going to help his pension life at all .

      • ሀይ ማን
        ጊቭ ሚ ኣ ወርድ ዛት ራይመስ ዊዝ ኢንክ
        ዶንት ዮ ትዘ-ሲንክ
        ዘ ብላንክ ስቲንክ ስቲንክ ስቲንክ
        ዘ ብሊንክ ስቲንክ
        ጃስት ላይክ ዘ ኦውቲስቲክ ቲክ
        ኒትሪክ
        ቦትዝ ኣር ፉል ኦ ስቲንክ
        ዳቡል ስቲንክ

        ጃስዋ

        ጻጸ

      • Alex

        Hi Paulos,
        That is expected from you praising the useless TPLF Apologist Amanuel Sahle.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Blink; I am sorry you have to be dehumanized for your opinion. This is what really infuriated me to bind. They keep saying democracy, human rights and all that BS but as soon as they hear something they don’t agree with, they go all the way to their backwardness and hypocrisy. I am sorry man. Regarding the guy you mentioned; I looked him up and I have no idea who he was and I thought he was half white or even a white old man. He must be an Eritrean considering the BS you are receiving from the so-called Eritreans. I have no idea what his message was I can’t really grasp what is saying but if he said something bad about Eritrea then it is unfortunate for him to deliver such of a theme at his time of his age. Obviously, from your post and from the responses you have got, it seems he had tried his hardest to appease the TPLF thug crowed. but it is what it is and I didn’t completely understood what his entire keynote is but whatever he said, that is his right and at the same time you have the right to criticize his take. That is what is called civilization and free of speech. Again don’t worry about backwards and say it whatever is in your mind.
      If They don’t like it? Tell them to jump in the lake. Democracy my foot!!!

      • Blink

        Dear Nitricc
        Thanks sir , it would have been a fair game if they allowed others to dehumanise them back but these people are allowed to insult and support a Tigray-Tigrini ( ዓባይ ትግራይ ) advocator , and they are given a green light to bash the highlanders and now Jebrti. I mean who is Eritrean comes to my mind when such people play ethnic , religious and region to divide Eritreans . For me losers of the past 5 decades are free to decorate their history but it will remain in DEDEBIT and I really mean it Nitricc these people has no value for democracy or justice . by the way their history is full of back stepping as well as lies . I really don’t bother by these people insults as well as dehumanising ability . The man Amanuel Sahle Openly states He supports for the formation of Abay Tigray and that is the only thing I opposed . Paulos the guy who is known to jump to insult people on behave of weyane is doing a known act of his own.

        • Hope

          Spot on Ya Ustaz Blink!
          U r correct,most of the time!
          My “ Position Statement” and “The Statement of Solidarity “ comment for Blink was deleted .

          Make no mistake that I am for National and Regional Reconciliation but facts and the truth on the ground should be accepted in FULL!

          Amanuel Sahle should equally advise his Mentors and bosses in Mekele that they MESSED up a big time and they should FIRST and FOREMOST APOLOGIZE sincerely and genuinely to Eritreans and come clean before they fuss about being brothers and sisters!

          Where was Amanuel Sahle hiding for the last 20 yrs when the same TPLF and its supporters had been waging an All War in all fronts against Eritrea and Eritreans so as to destroy Eritrea and Eritreanism for once and for all ?

          Funny here that the same guys were telling us that the TPLF Agenda has been to NULLIFY /neutralize the Eri ID by integrating Eritreans with Ethiopians ,which has been the case!
          Not to mention that the same people were confidently and pubicaly isnultigus ERITREANS as ID-less people or with D Crisis.

          First, they need to be good neighbors and they should PROVE it to us in deeds,not in fake terms!!

          They should DECLARE unconditionally that they dropped officially the No War No Peace evil agenda against Eritrea and Eritreans!

          The TPLF and its covert and de facto Agents of War Mongering and Expansionists like the lost soul Ghebru Asrat and Gen Tsadkan,the baby crier and Gen Abebe should withdraw and recall their fake books and made up stories about reclaiming Aseb before they fuss about brotherhood !

          Some people here have been ridiculing Major Dawit Weldeghiorghis et al about their Chauvinist attitudes against Eritrea but they are no where to be spotted when it comes to the overtly dangerous Ghebru Asrat and TPLF Generals and their destructive agenda against Eritrea !

          Even though seemingly an “ undiplomatic” approach,Prof Asmerom Leghesse is correct and made good points about these crooked,dangerous people and backstabbers!

          Pay serious attention to the other Guahalu/cobra snakes and their Selahta Werrar against Eritrea and Eritreans,please,which u already figured out

    • Hope

      Gen Blink:
      Let him bark,man!

    • Hope

      Spot on Ya Ustaz Blink!
      U r correct,most of the time!
      My “ Position Statement” and “Solidarity Statement “ comment was deleted .
      I am for National and Regional Reconciliation but facts and the truth on the ground should be accepted in FULL!
      Amanuel Sahle should equally advise his Mentors and bosses in Mekele that they MESSED up a big time and they should FIRST and FOREMOST APOLOGIZE sincerely and genuinely to Eritreans and come come clean before they fuss about being brothers and sisters!

      First, they need to be good neighbors!
      They should DECLARE unconditionally that they dropped officially the No Ear No Peace evil agenda against Eritrea and Eritreans!
      The TPLF and its covert and de facto Agents of War Mongering and Expansionists like the lost soul Ghebru Asrat and Gen Tsadkan the baby crier and Gen Abebe should withdraw and recall their fake books and made up stories about reclaiming Aseb before they fuss about brotherhood !

      Prof Asmerom Leghesse is correct and made good points about these crooked and dangerous people and backstabbers!

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Selam Horizon,
    In Eritrea there are 9 ethic groups. All 9 ethnic groups are Eritreans by blood. There is no question about it.
    On top of that we have another group (no ethnic group) called Jeberti. They don’t belong to any Eritrean ethic group. They arrived recently from Ethiopia. As we know Jeberti are Muslims. They had difficult practicing their religion in their country of origin (Tgray/Ethiopia). They immigrated (legally/illegally) though the border to Eritrea. They managed to settle down mainly in Akeleguzai and Seraye.
    Originally, they are Tigrigna speakers. But as we see always, they prefer to be Arabic speakers. In Eritrea, if at all, Arabic is spoken by Rashaida which compose ca. 4-5% of the Eritrean population. They are are nomads. One can’t tell if they are Eritreans , Sudanese or Egyptians.
    So the question is why the Jeberti are advocating for Arabic language tirelessly? Some of the Jeberti argue that it is because of their religion.
    But if we look at country like Iran, Turkey Malaysia and many others have over 90% of the population that practice Islam. But they proudly use their own language and not Arabic. We need to understand that Islam doesn’t mean Arabic. Myself, I don’t see any reason to replace our identity by Arabic identity.
    Thank you
    Hawaz

    • Saleh Johar

      Horizon,
      I forgot to mention a peripheral tribe of chauvinist who are not ashamed to display their bigotry in public. They are one half and the other half is in Ethiopia The two can be credited with all the bigotry, warmongering, and hegemonic virus that we failed to eradicate thus far. And it’s easy to identify them because they have a chosen punching bag that they have been abusing for many years. You can identify them by their medieval, savage character. I cannot go lower because I do not enjoy the gutters where dirty scavengers dwell. So pleas understand my limitation.

    • Selanmat Hawaz Tesfom,

      “They had difficult practicing their religion in their country of origin (Tgray/Ethiopia). They immigrated (legally/illegally) though the border to Eritrea. They managed to settle down mainly in Akeleguzai and Seraye.

      Originally, they are Tigrigna speakers. But as we see always, they prefer to be Arabic speakers.”

      It is VERY SAD that you are omitting the Jeberti on the Eritrean side of the border prior to the migration you mention. The must have been kinfolks and Muslim Eritrean Jeberti with their freedom to worship Islam in Eritrea that made it conducive or inviting for those fleeing persecution .
      In your futile effort to frustrate a single individual you are speaking utter lies and misinforming/miseducating the honest enquirer Horizon. Horizon please do not take heed of the garbage spewed.

      JASHUA

      tSAtSE

      • Saleh Johar

        TsaTse,
        Allow me to add a point in case you wish to use it in your argument, or just to think about.

        When Yohannes was persecuting Muslims, Allula his general was in charge of present Eritrea. How is it possible for one to flee from the King and seek refuge under his general?

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላም ሓዋዝ
      መደናገሪ ዶ ክብለካ ዋላ ፈዛዝ
      ምስ ምንታይ ይቑጸር ታሪኽና ምብራዝ
      ካበይ ረኸብካያ ‘ታ መደናገሪት ጥራዝ

      ጀበርቲ ኤርትራውያን ኣይኮኑን ‘ዶ ‘ልካ
      መን ዩ ዚዝንቡዕ ታሪኽ ነጊሩካ
      ንምዃኑ ንስኻ ‘ኸ ካበይ መጻእካ?
      ካብ ወሎ ‘ዶ ክብለካ ደምብያ
      ነታ መረብ መዓስ ሰገርካያ

      በል ጀበርቲ
      ዝነበሩን ዘለዉን ካብ ጥንቲ

      ስለዚ ትቅኑዕ መጽሓፍ ገንጽል
      ሓቀኛ ታሪኽ ኤርትራ ዝብል

      ነቲ ዝልእከካ ንገሮ
      መሃንድስ ምዕባለ ከምዚ ‘ሉኒ በሎ
      ካብቲ ዓዲ ሃሎ ዘሎ
      ‘ታ ኤርትራ ን ጀበርቲ ትብጽሖ
      ንገሮ መታን ደሙ ክፈልሖ
      ከመይከ ‘ንዳ ህግደፍሲ ይግበርኩም ድራር ፍልሖ

    • Hope

      Selam Hawaz:
      Simple solution:
      -Add Jeberty as an Eritrean Nationality !
      -Declare Arabic and Tigrinya along with English the working Languages of Eritrea
      Case closed.
      As long as the above do les our unsolved and lingering problems,and as long as they do not force us to declare Eritrea as an Islamic Arab Republic of Eritrea,who cares?

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hawaz Tesfom and others,

      People are seen these days striving to come with all kind of rationalizations to establish their views on Arabic and its status in Eritrea. The recurrent reasoning goes that Iran, Pakistan, Turkey are majority moslim countries and yet they did not adopt Arabic as official languages. Eritrea is a half (no census has ever been done) Moslem nation. I think no sane-minded Eritrea would dare to dispute this fact.
      The attempt is to look at the issue from ethnic or religious point of view only, and evading the democratic factor. If Eritrea’s future is going to depend on democratic values under democratic system for sustainable peace on which national unity and prosperity shall depend, why can’t the democratic right of choice of half of the population of Eritrea be respected? And, as quid pro quo, what would it mean if the Moslem half of the nation decide to reject the status of Tigrigna as sister official language?

    • Blink

      Dear Hawaz
      I donot know why Jeberti has to be dragged this way and I really do not know the point behind it .

      Remember if the Tigrinja speakers managed to learn Arabic as many already do they will still be in advantage too as the other small ethnic groups will either lose their mother language or opt Arabic for few elites . Religion is the main driving force for some people in this issue but I believe the benefit of having more languages in your radar helps a lot. One can look at different things but I believe the value of arabic must be compared to its use and the benefits it can offer to the society this Muslim thing from a religion side is simply the talk of lunatics who are old and lost in their old Iraq or Syria courses long time ago . The people should be there to choose what is good for them . Some people can see it like this 8 against one but this is also false as many Bilen , saho( except the few cry babies) , Kunama and others do have beige color in this issue . My question is why is Jeberti singled out in this ?

    • Brhan

      Hello Hawaz,
      The issue is about what will be the official languages in Eritrea? As you know we have been discussing this issue since 1990s and this is because even the constitution draft could not address it properly. It is said that Dr. Bereket H.Slase regrets on this issue. Above all we do not have constitution but we will have it in the future for sure!
      Then the constitution will clearly state like all other constitutions of the world what the official languages are. By this the issue will be institutionalized.
      The ways or techniques as I have said in the forum can be
      1) legislative body, formed by political parties and coalitions of political parties which will include the issue as part of their programs.
      2) Referendum
      Also Ibrahim Sultan, Idris Mohamed Adem were not Jebertis. I believe you know them if you know Eritrean history if not then you have homework to do and if you don’t want to do the home work by yourself but want me to tell you, tell me and I am ready for lesson number # 2
      Bye Hawazom

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ኤርትራ ወሪዳ ኣብ ዕዳጋ
    ብመን ደኣ ብዋናኣ በት ጨጋዕ-ዳንጋ
    ኣይንሱ ‘ንድዩ ዋናኣ

    እንታይኹም ትኾኑ ሓደስቲ
    ህዝባ ንብረታ ክሳብ ድስቲ-ኩስቲ

    ዋናኦም ‘ት ኣርዮስ’ዩ
    ዘይፈለጥኩም ፍለጡ ድነኑ ብኸዩ

    ንመለስ ናብቲ ኣርእስቲ
    ሕቶ ‘ለኒ ናብ ሰብኣይ-ሰበይቲ

    ሕጂ
    ኤርትራ ኣብ መሸጣ ድያ ወሪዳ ኣብ ክራይ?
    ዝፈልጥ ዶ ‘ሎ ብጀካ ‘ቲ ጋኔን ሰብኣይ
    ተጠምትና ንታሕቲ ዋላ ናብ ሰማይ

    እንድዒ ጥራይ ዝብል መልሲ ንረክብ
    ንሕና ንኸስር ንሱ ቢልዮናት ይእክብ

    ንሱ ይፍርም
    ንሕና ነቘዘምዝም
    ንምሸቱ ተታሒዝና ናብዛ ጉህም

    ሰኣን ምስማር
    ሰኣን ምሕባር
    ሰኣን ምጽውዋር
    ዓዲ ‘ንዳጠፈአት ንሕና ኣብ ምስካር
    ከምዚ ተቐጺሉ ጽባሕ ተዝካር
    ኣብ ክንዲ ምጽራፍ ይሓይሽ ምምካር
    ኮይና ከይንተርፍ ነበር

  • Hope

    Hell All!

    Good News from Khartoum::

    As ikhtti Sara declared it from the ground,”The Peace Deal “ among the Sudanese Politicians /Oppositions and people just jump-started to be effective and fruitful!

    Dr AAA was given a WARM WELCOME and a special applaud during his speech by none but the Sudanese !

    Cairo’s Rep was given a cold shower!
    No Eri Gov Rep was to be spotted during this ceremony,unless the Sudan Tribune /Tesfalem omitted it.
    Source:
    The Sudan Tribune

    To SGJ:

    Can we give Dr AAA the credit he deserves?
    Well,he will and should get the OFFICIAL NOBLE PRIZE for 2019 by hook or crook, well deservedly!

    Hope thinks so.

    Am sure he suggested for a similar solution for Eritrea but you know who to blame on!!!
    Congrats to Ethiopians and their Leadership!

    It is only fair and noble to put aside old grudges and tribal and ethnic politics and RALLY behind this Charismatic and unifying Leader.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hope,
      Hansab nIsaias, Hansab nHgdef, Hansab nAbbi ktzeri meret Aribuka. Leave out of your discourse, please.

      • Hope

        Saleh/Salih:
        Same Hope with same stand here.

        I have always supported Dr AAA and his Peaceful agenda provided that he does not make a U-turn like the dead-for-good PMMZ and betray us;but if he does so,history shall repeat itself and Eta Nwahin Merrarin Halenghi/Kurmaj EPLF keterkibellu eyya!

        Same for conditionally supporting IA and HIGDEF!
        Nothing changed .
        If Higdef does something good for Eritrea,I will acknowledge it and support it!
        As simple as that,no confusion or Rocket Science here .

        I challenged your article about giving full credit to the AU and Dr AAA and completely ignoring the role of ERITREA /HIGDEF by telling you the facts on the ground that HIGDEF,indeed has been involved in dealing with “ resolving the Sudanese Issue” and succeeded in making the Sudan Military Council to lead the Sudan for 3 years thereby alienating the already alienated Hiwehat(to give U some break from my “Jingoism” by using the WeyAne word).

        If “ hansab hansab” telling the facts and the TRUTH as they are about IA /Higdef makes Hope “ a Hansab Hansab” supporter of IA /Higdef,well,let it be!

        Where is the problem or crime of doing so though ?

        Just coz Hope does not comply with your “My Highway is the only way” prescription?

        To his credit,Gen Blink diagnosed you and your “ Gang”correctly on this quasi Dictatorial attitude and approach .

        I brought up Dr AAA and his successful reconciliatory effort legitimately to remind you about giving him the credit he deserves,which is a testimony of my persistent (not Hansab Hansab)support of/to same Dr AAA!

        Cheers buddy!

        • Saleh Johar

          Hope,
          Don’t expect me to engage with you unless you change your attitude. Please don’t try.

          • Hope

            Salih:
            Glad u read me and got the gist of my message,which is /was the only intention in my mind!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            I know you were crying Nissu and Weyanne. You don’t care about an atom of reducing the entire nation to beggars, refugees, and knockers of alien doors. You get pleasure in torture, imprisoning, assassination and degrading human beings. You are an uncivilized person and beyond repair.

            Al-Arabi

  • Selam SGJ,

    I really want to learn, because i see that i lack the right knowledge about Eritrea in certain areas. We read about “true” and “false (fake)” Eritreans. I always believed that that was a political discourse with nothing important to it.
    Recently we read about “native” and “immigrant” Eritreans. From what i understand, as immigrants are characterized those who came mainly from the Tigray region, i.e. militias that came with warlords and finally settled there and i have heard of the Tigre ethnic group (if i am not mistaken), that is said to have been evicted again from the tigray region because of their religious beliefs, and i should admit that i have no idea about lowland eritrea as to who could be called native and who an immigrant, if one applies the same criteria.
    Even people who came to the region five centuries ago are characterized to be immigrants, let alone those who came one and a half century ago, although one can imagine that there was movements of people to and fro all the time.
    The thing i want to ask, if you have the time, is “who are the bona fide eritreans? For how long have they settled in the region? What was their religion and other characteristics, etc? Thanks in advance.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Horizon,

      In the forties of the last century, the migrants conspired with Haile Sellase and annexed Eritrea to Ethiopia. Haile Sellase, through the assistance of these migrants, worked hard to push natives to the sea, but he failed. These migrants wish to perform a cleansing of natives, the same barbaric works of Haile Sellase. The migrants don’t want the others to acquire their rights. Despite the repeated calls of pure Eritreans to accept the rights of each other, and Eritrea will accommodate all of us.

      Al-Arabi

    • Saleh Johar

      Horizon,

      I will try to answer your question as honestly as I can, and as I studied.

      Let me start by telling you your questions is part of my problem with “His Excellency Abiy Ahmed” getting entangled in issue he has no clue about.

      Indeed, like the rest of the ethnocentric Habesha lands, we have a serious plague that has been raging for decades. I can comfortably say that a big chunk of our population settled in Eritrea through ancient migration (for many and lengthy reasons that I cannot elaborate here) invasions settlements, natural human movements–climatic, wars, jobs, etc. In recent times, the racism and bigotry digressed to the 18th and 19th century attitude and a portion of our people, because of different reasons within themselves, are working to reverse the clock and calendar back a few centuries. They want to extrapolate that era to the present. This has been exacerbated by Local dirty politics of the PFDJ, auxiliary damaging politics from your part of Abyssinia, and the regrettably, by the unenlightened Ethiopian policy towards Eritrea.

      Now, every region has its culture and norms. In the lowlands it is mainly pastoral and conflict of land is not prevalent as it is in the highlands (sedentary). These are the two major modes that we can talk about because the Dankalia region is not even involved in any of that, for the moment, since they are basically concerned about rights not hegemony.

      The offshoots of Abyssinian politics are all feudal, warlike, hegemonic, intolerant fascists, and their goalpost of who is an Eritrean shifts with every new developments in the region–they don’t even abide by the local laws they so-much boast about. Such discourse is rare if not non-existent in the lowlands.

      To me, anyone who was born and raised in Eritrea, and his psyche is Eritrean, is a citizen, regardless of race, religion or any claimed bloodline. If there is a different understanding of that, as people of the 21st century ought to do, we should refer the universally accepted laws and regulations. And that is what I do in formulating my opinion–at least we can jump to the present century with that view, and not be bogged in the middle ages and zemene-mesafint. Now you know my despise of the echnocentric part of the Habesha mindset and culture, and in that, Ethiopians are contributing a very damaging (and biggest) part of the problem. By the way, can you help start a cultural awakening in the Ethiopian Habeshalands, by shunning the Kibre Negest and other bigoted myths and chronicles 🙂

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Saleh G.,

        Here is my modest contribution to the discussion.

        Led Zeppelin:

        1) Immigrant song [about the Viking invasion of England]

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlNhD0oS5pk

        2) Going to California [in search of the ideal …]

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cfc3rCQOuU

        • Saleh Johar

          Oh oh oh Simon,
          If you just added linkinpark (?) band I would have been very sure that i remember you from the dehai days. Thank you for the links, particularly Led Zeppelin. :what can I do, I have a bad memory 🙂

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam SG,

            By the way, Linkinpark’s music has no bite; they are not my type.
            The Dinosaur website aka Dehai is still fighting the wars of yesteryear, firmly fixed in the 1998-2000 mode. Kids born at that time have already started going to University.

            Cheers anyway.

      • Hope

        Thank you and kudos to both of you ,Tsatse and SGJ, for your to the point and classy way of summering Eritrean Hx 101!
        Mahmuday prob will correct you by saying :
        Tigrayit is the Language of the Tigre Tribe/ Nationality!

      • Selam SGJ,

        Thank you for the response. As to your last point, in my opinion, the age of kings and princes is dead and gone, and one should not dwell on that myth any more. This is an old disease very few ethiopians suffer from nowadays. Of course, there are some people who equate supporting ethiopian unity with the dream for the return of the old myths. Ethiopian unity is not a myth, and it has nothing to do with old myths.
        Even if there are some habeshas with this dilapidated mentality, domination of other ethnic groups has been proved to be a disastrous undertaking, as we have seen lately.
        The new disease, on the contrary, is called tribalism/ethnicism, a deadly virus that has been made virulent in the laboratory of ethnic federalism, although the virus existed in its rudimentary form over the last half century and maybe more. This is the scourge of the new ethiopia and not the old myths.
        The last discussions of the “pure, true, native and immigrant” eritreans shows a similar pattern only due to a slightly different strain of the same virus, and eritreans should better do something about it before it gets worse.

    • Selamat Horizon,

      “… and i have heard of the Tigre ethnic group (if i am not mistaken), that is said to have been evicted again from the tigray region because of their religious beliefs, and i should admit that i have no idea about lowland eritrea…”

      The Ethiopians use of the word “Tigre” further complicates it for you. You guys call “Tigre” the Tigray Tigrigna speakers and include the Eritrean Tigrigna speakers. And your pronunciation coincides to a whole different set of TIGRE people who speak the beautiful language of TIGRE. The language Tigre is the FIRST derivative of the root language GiEEz. Neck to neck with the Tigrigna speakers, the Tigre population spans mostly the coastal lands, the entirety of western Eritrea from the Sahel to Barka and deep into the highlands of the SenHit and Anseba regions. Tigre is their nationality and Tigre is their language to the best of my knowledge. Though they are further broken down into Beits, clans and tribes. For example, the BenAAmir Western Eritrean Tigre speakers can be distinguished from the Massawa or Northern Eritrea coastal Tigre speakers. A class distinction amongst the Tigre was the undemocratic Shimagle classification and Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan is credited for its eradication or dismantling. Amongst notable Eritreans from the Tigre speakers is of course Sheikh Ibrahim SulTan, General Ibrahim Affa the architect of the liberation of nearly all of Eritrea lands along his counter part Tigre speaker the commander of the ELF forces Abdella Idris. Numerous poets of the beautiful Tigre language whose names I admit fails me at the moment. An excellent source would be Mahmud Saleh who is a Tigre. Arabic phobic Eritreans and some well meaning Eritreans and including the Tigre do advocate for Tigre to be a natural choice for an official Eritrean language.

      On the southern borders of Eritrea I believe the Tigre presence is sparse at best. You are more likely to find the Saho AAsawirta, the Kunama and of course Tigrigna Eritreans of both religions. The Tigriga speakers whose religion is Islam are the Jeberti. I think you may have confused the Jeberti to be the Tigre in your above inquiry. Ghadi a Jeberti himself could provide you with the accurate history of the Jeberti who have a presence in both Tigray and Eritrea.
      A notable Eritrean Jeberti is Shiekh AbdulQadir Kebire arguably the Founding Father of Today’s Eritrea and the Eritrean Revolution.

      JASHUA!

      tSAtSE

      • Saleh Johar

        Hello Horizon,

        TsaTse gave you an excellent addendum. But I would like to elaborate a little more:

        Your people have known present Eritrean highlands as Hamassen–which basically are home to the Tigrinya speakers–Seraye, Hamasen and Akele Guzai. Historically you also know Eritreans as Tigre (the Amharic pronouncement of Tigray) .

        Tigre is a language and as TsaTse explained it is spoken in North western Eritrea, Western Eritrea and the coastal areas until the confines of Dankalia. They speak several dialects but are close to each other and inter-changeable as I do when I speak in Tigrayit because I was exposed to almost all accents since childhood. However, the Tigre speaking people did not call themselves Tigre (which their language) until the PFDJ imposed that appellation on them. They are mostly knew themselves as Habab, Maria, Beni Amer-Betjuk, Mensaa, Semhar, and other tribes and clans. Their language is called Tigrayit, (the name of the language ).

        Tigrinya is a language of Highland Eritrea and it was never the name of the people who spoke the language until Isaias’ system imposed it on them–I know because I am one.

        For instance, I never called myself, and didn’t know any Eritrean who identified themselves as Tigrinya (by the language they speak) until in the 90s. Before that, we had Habesha dance, Habesha food, and Habesha dress. We lived with that general appellation since memorable time. Now we are not Habesha because of the wish to be different, to develop a different identity separated from Ethiopian Habesha, and other reasons driven by bigotry as some Muslims consider that synonymous with Christians–and calling someone “HABESHI” is pronounced as derogatory term in some parts of Eritrea and Sudan.

        Ibrahim Sultan: he is the first class emancipator in our history because he spearheaded the struggle of the “Tigre Class” that was living in bondage–more than 30% of the Eritrean population owe their emancipation to him. He is our Martin Luther King, not the character of his old age days that is portrayed in a poster popularized by the PFDJ. He is so huge no poster whatever its size cannot contain him.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam SGJ,

          The name “Tigrigna social group” is not recognized by Issayas and his organization only. If not before it, at least it goes to 1971, to the first ELF National congress. The Congress recognized the nine social groups (ethnics) that includes Tigrigna, as the building blocks of Eritrean society. Tigrigna as “language” and as “social identity” is recognized politically and socially by both organizations in particular and by the Tigrigna speaking in general. I don’t understand your argument. This is the second time you are bringing this issue.

          Regard

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Emma,
            Anyone can fancy a name or restructuring of society but they are not relevant unless they are imposed. Isaias imposed it on us and that is why I do not go further than that. The older views by political groups were not implemented by force therefore, to me at least, they are irrelevant and I hold it’s Isaias’ project.

            Hassasya is not a good choice of a word, it doesn’t apply to me. I reject it because I have an ID and will not give it up because of some dictatorial fiat. That is a free willed choice and you shouldn’t debase it as allergy. What I see is a common allergy to the term Habesha, it is allover the place. If others want to adopt Tigrinya as an ethnic identity, I have no problem, it’s their choice. I would just say, don’t count me in because I reject it. Now I hope you understand my argument–what a disappointment. I always though you understood me.

          • saay7

            Selamat Emma:

            You and Saleh are both right but you are more right than him:)

            Both ELF and EPLF ideologues were Marxists and as both of you know both Lenin and Stalin had written about the issue of “nations/nationalities” within the socialist context. The definitive one (which I am sure I have read translated into Tigrinya in the literature of ELF and EPLF was Stalins: “A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language , territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.”

            Thus commonality of language was one of the major identifiers of distinguishing a group, per Lenin and Stalin who were the saints of Eritrean Gedlis intellectuals. But what I remember was that the people were not synonymous with the language: ie, Tigrinya speakers were not called Tigrinya but literally “Tigrinya speakers”, “Tigre speakers”, “Saho speakers”, etc. The “speakers” suffix was cropped later on. (For example, in Nehnan Elamanan written in 1971 there are tons of references to “Tigrinya” and every single one of them was in reference to the language and not the people.

            Habesha is very vague and imprecise word whose retirement we should welcome:)

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Saay,
            You may not realize it but you are arguing based on the ideology of the red princes. If that is the case, I will throw the holy book at you—shouben weqebaila, not welyqat. What makes the red princes more correct than that:-)

            What I am saying is that I do not accept an identity (or anything else) imposed on me by a dictator. My choice is more valuable to me than the choice of a tyrant. If anyone wants to obey and accept the decision of the pfdj, it’s up to them. Any decision reached by a true representative of the people through proper mechanism, is fine with me and I will accept the decision. Until then, I will stick to my position come Stalin or his student Isaias. It’s about my choice, and I am Habesha

          • Ismail AA

            selam Aman H, (kemey),

            Your point about the stance at the ELF First National Congress is correct. But there is one point that kept hanging in my mind, and hope to enlighten me on it. The issue what the difference is between a Tigraway in Tigrai and a Tigrigna in Eritrea if we should use language as a term of definition? I would love to know your take on this. As you know, before the national liberation struggle era, we never heard of a Tigrigna as collective name of our compatriots in Eritrea. We understood Tigrigna as a language only – separate from the social group. Instead we used Serewetay, Hamasseinay and Akeleguzetay.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,Saay,SGJ,

            SGJ: Habesha And Agazian are history of the past and are negated with new realities. Societies evolve by the natural process dictated by different factors. We can not stop the transformation that comes by social evolution. Second, if you were believing on the ELF political programs it was debated and passed in its national congresses the Tigrigna speaking as “Tigrigna social group”. I don’t know whether you were against at that time. Believe me, if ELF was part of the transitional government with EPLF when we defeat Derg , the ELF ranks and files won’t reject it because it was part parcel of their political program.

            Saay: You are right we were influenced by Marxism and Leninism in the Liberation era the isssue of “nations and nationalities” are primarily defined by languages without ideological litmus test. If you remember the speech of the Indian Scholar you share with us, as to how nations and nationalities evolve in India, based on their languages, has no any ideological attachment with it. The current Federal states of modern India are structured based on nations and nationalities identified by their languages, if not all the major social groups. Pls help us to bring that link for it will help the current debate at hand.

            Ismailo: Good to see you back. On this issue: I don’t know than historians like yourself about this particular issue. Historians are the arbiters of past history. Actually, I was expecting you to enlighten us with you knowledge and experience when the issue pops up in our debate. To tell you the truth, I don’t have answer to you question right now. But here is where my argument is pivoted: Nations are evolved either by uniting with others or as seperate entities. With that circumstances, nations are obliged to define their identity either by their languages or others means dictated by the factors that brought them as nations. Now the Eritrean Tigrigna speaking had a historical name of the past like Agazian that include them with the Tigrigna speaking of Tigray, and had a historical name Habesha that include them with Tigrigna speaking of Tigray and with Amharic speaking of Amara. This many centuries ago before the formation of the African nations. And I believe with the birth of Eritrea our identity is evolved. The vanguards of our revolution (ELF & EPLF) defined our new realities and I don’t see any opposition from the public other than from our brother SGJ.

            Finally, if it is not a controversial issue, why does it take our energy this much, while there are many difficult issues in our plate that determine our coexistence as multicultural society.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma, Ismail Saleh et al,

            Just to say this on the agazian thing and +. To my knowledge no one identified himself as being Agazian like one says I am Habesha. Based on published materials, the reference to belonging to Agazian was first mentioned by abba Gregorios to Hiob Ludolf, and later repeated by other historians. In the 40s. When question of the future of Eritrea came up, religious elites in Asmara brought this up with the tigray-tigrigni story. The 3 schools in Asmara with name (Agazian) were found by religious elites, among them well known Qeshi Endreas Asbu (? Not completely sure of asbu).
            One of the most intriguing issues foreign visitors to Abyssinia faced was not getting a country/belonging (habesha, ethiopia or other) name when they ask people they meet. Everuone responded their small regions or weredas or awrajas or ‘province’ like mereb mlash, tigrai, shoa, gojjam. It is only when they talk with higher dignitaries, higher priests and debteras that they get the mention of habesha, ethiopia or something similar.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Thank you for the feed back on both Agazian and Habesha. Our historian in our house did agree with you.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Aman H,

            Thanks for your intellectual honesty. On the Agazian thing, I agree with what our own Haile provide hereunder. When it appeared it did not suggest as definition of a linguistic social group. The preponderant reference to our Tigrigna speaking fellow compatriots in geographic Eritrea, and which they shared with the counterparts inTigrai and beyond was Habesha, which in fact had racial and cultural connotation. Moreover, the linguistic side was limited to the Tigrigna speaking segment of Habesha which excluded the Amharic speaking Habesha. As far as I can recall within the Eritrean context the term Kebessa as geographical habitat was used to refer to the Tigrigna speaking folks from others such as in the lowlands.

          • saay7

            Haha Emma:

            I am not bringing the video of the Indian scholar here because the topic is መዳኸሚ and, in my opinion, contributed nothing to our struggle other than giving the NNNN the tools to brand us as people unduly obsessed with sub-national issues. I must prefer when we are on the offensive with the useless NNNN and forcing them to explain policies they support. One of them, who was crying about the arrest of Berhane Abrehe, went to attend a seminar Fozia Hashem (the “justice minister”) gave in Seattle and he came back with his happy talk that everything is fine and getting better and forgot to ask “Hey, any clue where Berhane is or why he was arrested?” We are much better off focusing on the clear and present danger facing Eritrea from Isaiaists, NNNN and Militia Srnay than discussing topics that should be discussed by universities and think tanks and demographers when we have the luxury of discussing that. Don’t you think so Emma?

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            I completely agree on focusing our issues, on those you have listed them down. After all, on my side, the issue wasn’t controversial at all.

          • Hope

            Hello Aman and Berhe:
            Now u r back to your senses and accepting what Hope has been crying for coz SAAY said so!

            The only missing point on my list is the Sawa thing, which I repeatedly cried for as kidnapping away Teens at 16-17 will lead to another war of dealing with PTSDs besides the Biblical scale Exodus of the Youth including the deaths in the seas and on deserts and what not, prob the very agenda of the designers of Sawa High School agenda

          • Peace!

            Hi Saay,

            Good call, thank you! Speaking of Fozia Hashim, lots of people singled out and denied entry except Mahmuday…paraphrasing

            ዶንግየ ኣትየ ብስራሕ ጉዳይ ካኣ ቀልጢፈ ወጽየ ግን ካብቲ ዝተዓዘብኩዎ ሑቶን መልስን ፎዝያ ሃሽም ፎኺሱዋ ነይሩ 😂

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            I like your clarity and the focus of our struggle.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Saay,

            How about refocusing just on Isaias? The old guy is the center stage of every on Eritrea. The simple logic is that, once he is gone, everything comes back to normal.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            Of course: ever since the “Democratic Coup” article I have been saying that Isaias is 80% of Eritrea’s problem and if we rid Eritrea of him, we, collectively, can work on fixing the 20%. Recently I was pleased to hear YouTube sensation Bakri (Falfasa) saying that. Whatever doubts I had of that strategy disappeared when one of the posers who pretend to be with the justice movement but is actually a Trojan horse for Isaias advised us opposition to de-focus on Isaias. When that failed he said “ንብጻይ ኢሳይያስ ምስይጣን ኣጀንዳ ወያነ’ዩ blah blah blah” 😀

            Saay

            saay

          • Hope

            Selam Ustaz Isamel:
            Agree with your argument and concern but check this out:
            -“But there is one point that kept hanging in my mind, and hope to enlighten me on it.”
            What about the Kunamas and Afars and the Sahos/Irobs?
            CanU interpolate what u said about the Tigrniya people in Eritrea and Tigray?
            U also said:
            ” If Eritrea’s future is going to depend on democratic values under democratic system for sustainable peace on which national unity and prosperity shall depend, why can’t the democratic right of choice of half of the population of Eritrea be respected? And, as quid pro quo, what would it mean if the Moslem half of the nation decide to reject the status of Tigrigna as sister official language?”.
            Two issues:
            For the sake of argument ONLY as I personally resolved the issue form my ed(Arabic ,Tigrniya and English as my Working/Official Languages in Eritrea).
            -Where is your evidence or data that 50 % of Eritreans… chose Arabic?
            -Was there a referendum done that am not aware of as of yet?
            -Would you favor a referendum this?

            And if so,would you respect the final outcome either way,specially if more than 50 % of Eritreans chose against Arabic??

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hope,

            I will volunteer for Ismailo. If both rejected each other on the two languages, then they shoul decide on other alternative language that both sides could agree. Don’t you think it is fair.

          • Hope

            Selam Prof Aman:
            Realistically yes, but practically,IMPOSSIBLE.
            This Arabic thing is one of the obstacles and a perpetual cause of mistrust among Eritreans,unnecessarily,in Eritrea.

            The best would be to openly discuss about it in future Eritrea and come to a constructive Consensus….be it thru a referendum or thru the Constitutionally elected Assembly;but in the in the meantime,let us declare it or let us accept/consider both as Working and Official Languages of Eritrea by adding English…

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            I see the fairness here now. Arabic is not an Eritrean language as such both can accept or reject any foreign language. That is why it needs to be voted by all or representatives.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amanuel,

            It’s not a fair question and it’s not a fair ask. I do NOT want my kids, if I was in Eritrea, to be thought in any other language when they are kids, in Tigrina as primary and any other language as secondary. It’s who they are and I don’t agree that I have to get permission from someone else who doesn’t believe so to tell me what my children should speak and learn.

            You don’t change who you are and what you believe for the mare convenience of others.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            I am always for fairness. If we don’t want to be told what we need, they shouldn’t be told what they need. Justice for all.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Hope,

            Without being dragged to discussing your take point for point, let me state two issues: 1) unlike the Tigrigna speaker social group, those you had mentioned have reference names, and 2) half (34) of Eritrea’s defunct parliament of Eritrea in 1952 chose Arabic as official language and got endorsement for it. I assume you know what that meant.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            You wrote “-What if the other 50% ( Tigrinya Speakers) “ keep rejecting Arabic(if at all they are rejecting it-caution here) ?

            Then what?

            Another civil war?

            Thought the case was “ settled”(shush..shush do not tell Semere Tesfay) to avoid all this mess!”.

            How about the rest of Eritreans vote to kick the “Tigrina speakers” out of Eritrea including their lands, and form their own country with out them.

            In other words, it’s not upto them “Tigriana speakers” to “decide” and to “give” something the don’t own in the first place.

            Let them, like Semere Tesfay and others, chose what ever national / official language they choose to.

            Then they will be left with mountains and dry land and then they appreciate what Eritrean means without the low lands and sea.

            I think the argument should, it’s not if Arabic can be a national language or not, but instead, if the rest of Eritreans should keep the Tigrina in Eritrea or not. They are noting but trouble.honestly… trouble for themselves, and trouble for others around them..that includes me BTW…

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            Remember we are talking about importing a foreign language here. Arabic is only spoken by Rashida. Percentage wise they are less than 1%. Therefore, it is the right of all Eritreans to accept or reject Arabic language. What am I missing here? There is many many countries with entirely or majority Muslims who never chosen Arabic as their language, preferred to stick to their own language. Eritrea by all Eritreans cannot be different.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            First I don’t say anything to appease SaaY and SJ. But if they are appeased by what I said, I consider it an an honor. I do have the utmost respect for their character and what they are subjected to but they always able to keep calm and direct our country to the right path. How I wish one of them or people like them one day be the leader of our country and lift us from the mess and misery our people are putting up with by the leaders of our kind (the likes of you and I).

            While we are on the topic, why don’t we allow Ethiopia to have a say and vote on our referendum if we must stay with them or separate? You don’t think that’s fair question….

            Stop with this argument why Iran or Turkey are not making Arabic as their official languages. It is not the same comparison and there is no need to make. Why did India made English as their official language? Why did a lot of African colonies made English and French their official languages? It’s what the people want and it’s what works for them.

            The Eritrean Muslims are telling you, we wanted Arabic to be our official language. Who the hell are we to say this or that…

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            I have been following for a long time, I know why I am saying this.

            “While we are on the topic, why don’t we allow Ethiopia to have a say and vote on our referendum if we must stay with them or separate?” Really? Like this is related? It is between Eritreans among each other and it is a foreign language preference that the Eritreans may go to ballot to vote. Are saying that the Saudis need to join our Eritrean Muslims to vote for Arabic language in Eritrea. Sure, when you talk about Eritrea’s case for referendum, you seem to be implying you want to involve the origin of the language.

            For God’s seek, the Saudis would not even grant citizenship to Muslims from Africa born into their country. They are racists as they can get to that extent. So, you are voting to import their language and create a mess into the country with diverse but humble people.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            First I want to ask you, if possible be honest, where in Eritrea did you grow up or if you grow up in Eritrea at all. I suspect you haven’t. It’s my experiences that most Eritreans who grew up in Ethiopia (I have my relatives) that they are allergic to Arabic. It is just simply for lack of understanding and lack of exposure, or due to the propaganda they were exposed to by successive Ethiopian regimes.

            If you grew up in Asmara, Massawa, keren, Mendefera, SenAfe, Adi Qeyih and other parts of Eritrea, Arabic was never an issue and it will never be an issue.

            Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with Arabic or how the Eritrean Muslims practice their religion in Eritrea.

            I gave you the ridiculous example of Ethiopians wanting to vote in our referendum to show you that you are also making a ridiculous argument that does not affect you.

            I am not contradicting my self, I have been clear. The whole Eritrea has been clear. We wake up every morning listing to alah waeakbe in Asmara for example. We have no problem with it, and no body in Eritrea has a problem with it. It’s what I heard all my life. If Eritrea was a homogeneous country, say like Somalia and everyone spoke Somali then the national language affects all Somali and they should all have a say in it. Having Arabic as a national language does not have the same effect for me as a Christian as it will for an Eritrean Muslim. So off course I have no say. That’s my point, that you do not seem to get it.

            It’s what makes Eritrea, Eritrea. A united but diversified country that accommodate every Eritrean.

            You are stuck with this notion that Arabic is not our language there for it has no part in our culture.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            Let me tell where I grew up first. I was born and grew up in the city of Asmara, Eritrea. I am wedi gejeret. I know my home city from edge to edge and from Godaif/barjima/travello/campopolo/tsetserat/hazhaz to Mai temenai/borberela to medeber/akriya/edaga arbi to mai tsi/chihot/gezamanda, sentanta oto, salasa emstegna (halibet now) to kohawta. I started my elementary school at Enda Adventist then Enda badre (junior school) and Santa Ana high school and Asmara University to The Ohio State University. I have had friends from all kinds of religions including Muslims (my best friends were Muslims during my high school at Santa Ana) and Asmara University. I had many friends from Akriya and else where. Point, they never urged with me about making Arab a second language.

            Let me ask a question now, have you ever watched the TV show called “The Office” and do you know the character Dwight Schrute from this show? Do you know how he (his character) acts in that show? I am sorry to say this but you always remind of that show and the Dwight Schrute interacting with Michael Scott:)

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            Thank you for sharing your personal experiences. Where you grew up exactly reflects where I grew up and what my experiences has been. But it has never been an issue and Arabic has never been discussed nor debated.

            Here is a simple question for you. When you meet your Eritrean Muslim friends every morning, and when asked “kemey Hadirka?” How did they respond.

            If you are a christian Eritrean, you would have responded by yimesghen or Egziabher yimesghen. How would an Eritrean Muslim responds?

            As to the show you mentioned, I did not watch the show and I don’t know the character you are speaking about.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            Do want me to answer with “Alham delilah” or “Bella” or “Tsibuk” or like the tegadelti would say “Worki”? You are being funny on this one

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Berhe Y,

            Very intelligent question. “kemey Hadirka?” How would an Eritrean Muslim responds?

            Likewise, I add the following question people to think about it.
            What do you expect from a Muslim who topples Isaias or you think it is impossible?

            Al-Arabi

          • ሰላማት በርሀ የ፡

            “…to alah waeakbe in Asmara for example. We have no problem with it, ”

            እላህ ወኣክባር ኢዩ ኔሩ ኢቲ ሙአዝን ካብ ድቃስና ዘንቀሓና ንግሆን ቀትርን ምሸትን፥፥ ከመይ ጌሩ ፕሮብለም ክህልወና? ዘይ ኣምላኽ ኩቡር ኢዩ ዝብል ኔሩ እልህ ውኣክበር ኣልህ ኢሉ ክጽልየልና ኮሎ፡፡

            ኣላህ ዋኣክበር፥፥ ሰለስተ ደቀይ ኣብ ናይ የዕራብ፥ ሱርያን ለቦናን የውሃዶ ኢዮም ተጠሚቖም፡፡ ቁዱሳን ክኾኑ ካኣ፥ ስንበት ሰንበት ቤተክርስትያን ይወስዶም ነበርኩ፥፥ ቀሽና ዓርብ ሱርይዊ ኢዩ ኔሩ፥፥ ኢቲ ቅዳሴ ካኣ ብቆንቃ ዓረብኛን (አንግሊዝን መስለኒ) ኔሩ፥፥ ክቕድስ ኮሎ፥ ኣልህ ዋኣክበር ኢሉ ይመርሓና ነበረ፥፥ ንሕና ካኣ ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኢልና ተኸቲልናዮ ንጽሊ ነበርና፥፥ ቢስሚላሂ (በስም ኣም[ላኽ]) ኢሉ ካኣ ትምህርቲ ኣምላኽ ኢቲ ቀሽና ይጅመር ትምህርቱ ኔሩ፥፥ ክርስትያናይ ቢስሚላሂ ኣልራሕማን ኣል ረሒም ኢሉ ይጽሊ ኢዩ፥፥ ናይ የዕራብ ናይ ተውሃዶ ቤተክርስትያን ዋል ኣብ ዩ ቱብ ተኸተል፥፥

            ኣነ ዝገረመትኒ ወይ ዘስሓቐትኒ አንተ ኣላ አታ “ኣላህ ዋኣአክበ” ስ ንግሆ ንግሆ ኣበይ ኢኻ ትሰምዓ ዝነበርካ? ኣብ ብሉር ስትሪት ቶሮንቶ ድኣ ከይትኸውን? በል ተኸተለኒ፥ ሓቢርና ክልቴና ክስታና ንዛ ኩላ ኣብዚ ገዛ ዘላ ኣስላማ ክርስታና ኣልህ ዋኣክበር ኣላህ ክትብል ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኢልና ንምረሓያ፥፥
            God is Great! Allah Akbar.

            (Not I repeated many times Allah wAKbarr because God is indeed Great so that you too Berhe_y will never forget that Allah wAkbar Allah 🙂

            JASHUA

            tSAtSE

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan tsatse,

            Correction if you don’t mind it. Say Allah Akbar not Allah wakbar. The former means God is great, but the later will give completely a different meaning that is God and Great. In Arabi “wa و” means “and”

            Al-Arabi

          • መርሓባ እል-ዓረቢ፡

            ኣላህ ኣክባር።

            ጃሽዋ

            ጻጸ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSATSE,

            Off course you completely twisted what I was saying and you made it as if I am the one who has a problem with. I don’t have a problem. I never had never will.

            I think you should direct to those who are saying “Arabic is not ours folks.

            The example I used is to show it isn’t. It’s is in our daily life.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Berhe_y,

            In your initial comment you said you heard every morning the MueEzin’s call to prayer from the Masjid:

            “…to alah waeakbe ”

            Every morning for at least 20 years and you heard “waeakbe”. Then you must have had a large build up of wax in your ears not to hear Allahu Akbar Allah. Apparently there is blockage substance built up in front of your eyes or cpu. For it is obvious you did not comprehend the intent of my comment or the humor within it.

            Because you have turned a positive initiative from my side to reconcile and reengage in the dialogues of this forum by drawing a negative sword into a negative in your very first sentence. You have completely missed the spirit behind Allahu Akbar ኣላሁ ኣክባር الله أكبر። You opened with: “Off course you completely twisted..”

            በርሀ ሓውና፥ ኣነ ዘረባ ዝጠዋዊ ዘደናግር፥ ሰላም አንካ አንዳ በልካዮ ክበኣስ ክዋጋኣካ ዝመርጽ፥፥ ነብሰይ ስላ ባዕለይ ዘኽብራ ኣኽብሮት ንኻልኦት ክህብ ብጣዕሚ ኣዚየ ለጋስ ኢየ፥፥ ተውህቦይ ከኣ ዋላ ንቲ ተጋግዩ ዘሎ ዝጻራረኒ፥ መርትዖታት ሰሪዐ፥ ሓደ ሓደ ግዜ አንዳ ተዋዘኹ ቁምነገር ዝሓዘለ ኣስተምህሮ ንሓደ ሰብ ጥራይ ዘይ ኮነ ንኹሉ ኣምባቢ ፎሮም ቁኑዕ ኣተሓሳስቡኡ ዘረጋግጽ ወይ መሊሱ ዝሃንጸሉ ጥራሕ ኢየ ዘቕርብ፥፥ ምስ አንኮ ሓደ ሰብ ጥራሕ ክራጋሕ ወይ ናይ ቆይቂ ኣመል ሃሊዩኒ ክቋየቕ ኢለ ኣይኮንኩን ዝጽሕፍ፥፥ አዛ ሕጂ ዝምልሰልካ ዘልኹ ጽሕፍተይ ናባኻ ጥራይ ዝውርውራ ዘለኹ፥፥ ብዙሓት ኣምበብቲ ኣብ ግምት የአቲየ ኢየ መኣርምታ ክትኮነካ ዝጽሕፋ ዘለኹ፥፥ ዋጋ ክብረተይ (ጻጸ ኣብ ዓዋተን ኪንዩኡን) ብ ኣወንታዊ ከምዝረኣኤ ርግጸኛ ኢየ፥፥ ኩሎም አቶም ገስግስቲ ብ ስነ ፍልጠታዊን ስነጥበባዊን ምአንቲ ኤርትራ ሃገርና ዝቃለሱ ሓቀኛን ሰለማዊን ኣብ ፍትሒ ቅድም ቅዳድም ኩሉ ኣትሪረ ረጊጸ ድምጸይ ብዘይ ፍርሒ ወይ ሽርሒ ዘድምጽ ኤርትራዊ ከም ሙኻነይ ከም ዝኣምኑን፥ ኣብ መትከሎም ከም ዘጸናንዖምን፥ መብዝሕቲኡ ኣበርኩተይ ከም ዝድነቑን፥ ኣብ ዝጋገየሉ አዋን ወይ ኣብ ሓሳባት ዝጎድለኒ ብዘይ ቀልዓለም ኣዝዮም ከምዝልጉሱለይ ኣይጠራጠርን ኢየ፥፥ ካብቶም ዓያሹ የሕዋትና ከይንሃንጽ ሓቢርና፥ ስልትታትን ሽርሐን ናይ መዕነዊ ጎታቲ መሰርያታትን ሓሳባትን ሓዚሎም ኣብ ሞንጎና ፈንጠራዕራዕ ዝብሉ ዘለው፥ ሓድ ካብኦም ደፊሩ ን ጻጸ ዓይኑ ዝጥምቶን ዝዳፈሮን ዘዕገርግሮን የለን፥፥ መንሙኻኑ ን ጻጸ ኣዝዮም ዝተገንዘቡ ስለ ዝኾኑ፥፥

            ናትካ ናይ በርሀ_የ ኸ ኣበይ ኢየ ክሰርዖ፥፥ ብፍላጥ ዶ ኾን ኢዩ ዝዘርግ በርሀ ዘሎ? አንታይ ኢዩ ኩሉ ግዜ ዘይመልከዐይ ዘይናተይ ባህሪ ከጸገዕለይ ዝጽዕር? ኢለ ንነብሰይ ይጥይቓ፥፥ መኽንያቱ ኣብ ክንዲ ኣብቲ ለዕሊ ሃናጽን ኣውንታዊን ሓሳባት ኣነ ጻጸ ዘቕርቦ ብኣወንታዊ ሓሳባት ናይ ገዛአ ርአሱ ደሚሩ ንኻሎኦት ኣምበብቲ ኣብሪሁ ዝሃንጽ፥ ብኣሉታዊ ይዕንቲ ዝጥምተኒ ኩሉ ግዜ ኽኣ ብጎነጽ ዝጥምተኒ፥፥ ጻጸ ኣብ ዝኾነ ሓሳባቱ ሃናጺ ርአይቶን ሃንጽቲ ሕቶታትን ንረብሓ ቡዙሓት ኢሉ ኢዩ ዘቕርብ ኣብ ድምበ ዓዋተ ይኹን ኣብ ካልአ በርሀ_የ ክርዳአ ኣለዎ ከኣምን ኣለዎ ብዘይ ዝኾነ ጥርጥር ምአንቲ ነብሱን ምአንቲ አቶም ክሃንጾም ዝጽዕረሎም ዘሎ፥፥

            ኣምላኽ ዓቢ/ኩቡር ኢዩ (ኣምላኽ ዓቢ ኢዩ) አሞ ኣምላኽ ንኩላትና ኤርትራውያን ፍቕርን ስኒትን ዝስፍነልና ስለ ዝኾነ ትምኒትናን ድልየትናን፥፥ እላህ ንዓና ኣስልም ኢዮም ክርስታን ኢሉ ኣይ ፈላልየናን ኣይድሉን ንሓዴና ካብቲ ሓደ፥፥ ክርስታና ኣስላምና ኻኣ ክብሩ ን ኣላህ ውሃብቲ ኢና፥፥ ኣል ራሓማን ኣልረሒም ኢዩ ኣልህ፥፥ ክርስታና ኣስላምና ኸኣ ቢስሚላህ (በስም ኣም(ላኽ)) ኢልና ኢና ዝኾነ ኣወንታዊ ግብርታትና ን ፍቕሪ ውጽኢቱ ክንጽዕር ንብገስ፥፥ ኣብዛ ኣርአስቲ ኣቶ ሳለሕ ዘቕረበልና ኻኣ፥ ምአንቲ ፍቕርን ሰላምን ኤርትራ ስለ ተገንዝብኩ፥ ሽም ኣላህ መበገሲይይ ተሞርኪሰ ንኹሉ ኣምባቢ ክግንዘቦን ክርደኦን አትቲ ቋንቃናን ያታናን ናይ ሓባር ረቛሒና ኣላህ ፍቕሪ ኢዩ ኢለ ናይ ፍቕሪ ድልድል ምስ በርሀ_የ ክሃንጽ አሞ ኣብነት ንኹሎም ኣምበብቲ ኤርትራውያን ክኾነና ኢለ፥ ልክዕ አታ ምችአቲ ደቒቕ ሰዓት መሪጸ፥ ኣላሁ ኣክባር الله أكبر God is Great ጽኑዕ አምነት ረጊጽ መአንቲ ስላም ኢለ ዝተዳህኹኻ፥፥ ምዝንጣል ወይ ንበርሀ ጥራይ ክጠዋውዮ ክንቋየቕ ክንባኣስ ፍጹም ኣብ ሓሳበይ የሎን፥፥ ኩሉ ጽሕፋተይ ን ደምበ ባይቶ ዓዋተን ኩሉ ዕለም ለኻዊ ብ ኣውንታዊ ዝሓንጽን ዝትንክፍን ሓሳባት ጥራይ ጻጸ ከምዘቕርብ ካብ ሎም ኒንዮ ተገንዘበለይ፥፥
            መታን ንሓዋሩ ኣጽቢቑ ክርዳኣካ ክስቆረካ ብ ቋንቃ ትግርኛ ኣስፊሐ ኣቕሪበዮ ኣለኹ፥፥ ኢዚኣ መልአኽቲ ንሓደ ውልቅሰብ በርሀ_የ ኢለ ኣይኮንኩን ዝጽሓፍክዎ፥፥ ካብ ኢጎ ተተንቀቕ፥፥ አታ ቅዳመይቲ ጽሑፍተይ ከኣ ጉቡአ ክብራ፥ አንተ ብፍላት ወይ ብጌጋ ከተሕስራ ዝፈተንካ ከም መደምደምታ ናይ ‘ዝኣ ጽሑፍተይ ኣብ ታሕቲ የቕርባ ኣለኹ ን ኣምባብቲ፥፥ ኣምላኽ ይዓቢ ኩቡር ኢዩ ሓቢርና ብዝኾነ ቋንቃ ዋላ ሓደ ስብ ኣበር ከውጻኣሉ አንተ ኮይኑ፥ ወይ ዘራጊቶ ኢዩ ወይ ኣይተረደኦን፥፥ ስላዚ ኣብ ሕጊ አንዳ’ባ ኣብ ቤት ፍርዲ ኣል ሸሪዓ ኣልተቕሊዲያት ኣብዚ ታሕቲ ሕጂ ንደምበን ኣቕረብቲን መርትዖይ ብትሕትና የቕርብ፥፥ [ ፍርዲኹም ብ ላይክ ወይ ተጋኻ ዝብለ ኮመንት ብዘይ ቅድመ ኩነት ክቕበሎ ድሉው ኢየ፥፥]

            ኣብ ዛ ጥቕስቲ በርሀ ዝበላ፥
            “…to alah waeakbe in Asmara for example. We have no problem with it, ” ተሞርኪሰ ናይ ፍቕሪ ድልድል ክንሃንጽ ሓቢርና ከምዚ ኢለ ተዳህኽዎ ድሕሪ ነዊሕ አዋን ብህልኽ ዝፈረሰ ርክብና፥

            ከምዚ ኢለ ቅረብክዎ፥
            “እላህ ወኣክባር ኢዩ ኔሩ ኢቲ ሙአዝን ካብ ድቃስና ዘንቀሓና ንግሆን ቀትርን ምሸትን፥፥ ከመይ ጌሩ ፕሮብለም ክህልወና? ዘይ ኣምላኽ ኩቡር ኢዩ ዝብል ኔሩ እላህ ውኣክበር ኣላህ ኢሉ ክጽልየልና ኮሎ፡፡

            ኣላህ ዋኣክበር፥፥ ሰለስተ ደቀይ ኣብ ናይ የዕራብ፥ ሱርያን ለቦናን ተውሃዶ ቤተክርስትያን ኢዮም ተጠሚቖም፡፡ ቁዱሳን ክኾኑ ካኣ፥ ስንበት ሰንበት ቤተክርስትያን ይወስዶም ነበርኩ፥፥ ቀሽና ዓርብ ሱርይዊ ኢዩ ኔሩ፥፥ ኢቲ ቅዳሴ ካኣ ብቆንቃ ዓረብኛን (አንግሊዝን መስለኒ) ኔሩ፥፥ ክቕድስ ኮሎ፥ ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኢሉ ይመርሓና ነበረ፥፥ ንሕና ካኣ ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኢልና ተኸቲልናዮ ንጽሊ ነበርና፥፥ ቢስሚላሂ (በስም ኣም[ላኽ]) ኢሉ ካኣ ትምህርቲ ኣምላኽ ኢቲ ቀሽና ይጅመር ትምህርቱ ኔሩ፥፥ ክርስትያናይ ቢስሚላሂ ኣልራሕማን ኣል ረሒም ኢሉ ካኣ ይጽሊ ኢዩ፥፥ ናይ የዕራብ ናይ ተውሃዶ ቤተክርስትያን ዋላ ኣብ ዩ ቱብ ተኸተል፥፥

            ኣነ ዝገረመትኒ ወይ ዘስሓቐትኒ አንተ ኣላ አታ “ኣላህ ዋኣአክበ” ስ ንግሆ ንግሆ ኣበይ ኢኻ ትሰምዓ ዝነበርካ? ኣብ ብሉር ስትሪት ቶሮንቶ ድኣ ከይትኸውን? በል ተኸተለኒ፥ ሓቢርና ክልቴና ክስታና ንዛ ኩላ ኣብዚ ገዛ ዘላ ኣስላማ ክርስታና ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኣላህ ክትብል ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኢልና ንምረሓያ፥፥

            God is Great! Allah Akbar.

            (Not I repeated many times Allah wAKbarr because God is indeed Great so that you too Berhe_y will never forget that Allah wAkbar Allah 🙂

            ኣላህ ዋኣክበር ኣላህ

            ሓያ ዓለል ሰላም

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ”

            ባኣሉታዊ ተረዲአዋ በርሀ_ይ ከኣ፥ ከምዚ ኢሉ ምልሱ ኢቲ ርክብ ናይ ህልኽ ጎንጺ ወርወረለይ፥

            በርሀ_የ ዝመለሰለይ ፥ Hi tSATSE,

            “Off course you completely twisted what I was saying and you made it as if I am the one who has a problem with”

            ኣምላኸ ይዓቢ ‘ሞ ካብ ኣምላኽ ስለ ዝኾነ መቕረት ናይ ‘ዝ ኣርአስትና ተቶክር ዶ ኣይኮነትን ኣዛ ኣረስተይ? ንኩልና ኻ ኣይተተሓሳስበናን ወይ ትትንክፋና ኒራ አታ መልአኽተይ?

            ቁኑዕ ፍርዲ ካባኹም ሸሪዓት ኣልተቕሊዲየት!

            ኣላሁ ኣክባር الله أكبر God is Great

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSasE,

            I have not read all what you wrote except the first paragraph and I see that I have hurt you.

            I misunderstood you. Sorry.
            Berhe

          • ሰላማት በርሀ-የ፡

            ንዓይ ክትጎድኣኒ ኣይትኽአልን ኢኻ፥፥ ነቲ ኣርአስቲን ቀንዲ ዕላማ ጉዕዞ ግን ክትዕንቅፎ ወይ ጽቡቕ ውጽኢቱ ከተዳናጉዮ ትኽአል ኢኻ፥፥ ውጽኢቱ ኸኣ ንነብስኻ ምዕንቃፍ ኢዩ፥፥ ድሓር ከኣ ከምቲ ዓንቶቦይ ዝበልኩኻ፥ ንስኻ ጥራይ ክትርዳኣኒ ኢለ ኣይኮንኩን ዝጸሓፍኩ ሕጂ ውን ዋዛ ምስ ሃናጺ ቁምነገር ጌረ፥ ቀጻሊ ጌጋኻ ክትውግዶ አቲ ጌጋታት ናይ ‘ዝ ኤርትራውያን መሓዙ ኤርትራውያን ደምበ ሞጎቲ ኢና ንብል ከቕርበልካ(ኩም) ኢየ፥፥

            አታ ሓንቲ ጌጋ መብዝሕቴና ነዘውትራ ካባይ ኣትሒዝካ፥ ናይ ዝኾነ ሰብ ጽሑፍ ምስ ዝቐርብ፥ ሽሙ ወይ ሽም ብርዑ ልክዕ ምስ ኣምበብና ኣብ ኣተሓሳስባና ዝጽፋዕ ኢዩ ኢልና ኣቐዲምና ኣስፊርናዮ አንተ ጸኒሕና፥ ኣቕዲምና ዓረር ዓሚርናያ ዝጸንሐት መሳርያና፥ ብታህዋኽ ካብ ሉጋማ ከይተፈትሐት ኣብ ኦቶማቲክ ዓሺግና ቃት ብሓይሊ ጸቒጥና ቶኽሲ ንኸፍት፥፥ አንተ ኣብ መስርዕ ኣተሓሳስባና ኢዩ ንብሎ ኮይኑ ኢቲ ጸሓፋይ ከኣ፥ ጽሑፉ ከይወዳአናን ቁኑዕ ኢዩ ዘረባኡ ኩሉ ዝብል ሓሳብ ኣብ ሓንጎልና ስለ ዝቐረጽና፥ ከም ብጹአ ሰብ አዚ ዘይበሃል ክንደይ መጎሰን ፍዮሪታትን ንንስንሶ፥፥ አቲ ኣበርክቶና ንምዕባለን ህንጻን ኣብ ክልታዊ (ባይኖሚያል ኦር ዳይኮቶሚ) ጉራሙራ ሕብርታት ዘይብሉ ትርኢት ዘይተዓጻጻፊ ጎታቲ ተዓጊቱ ንሓዋሩ ሃሱስ ኣሰራርሓን ሞጎተ ናይ ቆይቃን ዘልኣለማዊ ጽልአን ባአስን ኮይኑ ይተርፍ ጻዕርና፥፥

            አንታይ ዳኣ ተሃዊኽካ መልስን ይቕሬታን ትልግስ፥፥ አሞ ኸኣ ምስ ግሉጽ ሓሶት ዝመልኦ፥፥ ዘይኒፈልጦ ክአለት ናይ ጠቢብነት ኣቐዲሙ ዝርኢን ዝጎዓዝን ታይም መሺን ኣለካ ድዩ፥ ይቕረ ዘብል ጽሑፍ ሙኻኑ ጽሑፈይ ተረዲአካስ ይቕሬተኛን፥ ንስኻ ከም ሓደ ሓያል ፍጥረት ናይ ሙግዳአ ዓቕሚ ከም ዘለካ፥ ንዓይ ከኣ ከም ሓደ ድኹም ፍጥረት ምሕረት ዝጠየቕኩ ጌርካ፥ ኢቲ ሕምረት መቐረት ናይ ጽሑፈይ ተነኣአሶ? ኢዚ ካን ኩቱር ኢጎ፥ ኣንነት ትጥቃዕ ክምዘለኻ ወ ከማን ኣብታ ላዕለወይቲ ክፋል ዝጠቕስክዎ ሓበራዊ ሕማም ደምበ መሟጎቲና ትጥቃዕ ኣለኻ፥፥

            ብዝኾነ፥ ሙሉአ ጽሑፈይ ጉቡአ ክብሪ ሂብካ መልስኻ ይኹን፥ ሃናጺ ናይ ሓባር መቐጸልታ ትውስኸሉ ይኹን፥ ግቡ ወይ ፕሮፐር ይቕሬታኻ ሃብ፥፥ ዘህውኽ ኣይነበረካን፥፥ ኣነ መርከብ ትጥሕል ኣላ ኢለ ኣይ ሃወኽኩኻ ተጎዲኤ ኣለኹ ሃይ ብቑልጥፍ ይቕረ ብለኒ ኣይበልኩኻ፥፥

            ኣይትሓዘለይ ኢዚ ኹሉ ትሪ፥፥ ሬኤኻ በርህ_የ፥ ጻጸን ጽንጽያን ብዓቐን ዳርጋ ሓደ ወይ ይመጣጠኑ ስለ አትፋልጥ፥ ኣነ ጻጸ ኢዚ ኹሉ ስብሒ ካብ ጽንጽያ ክአክቦ ዝኸኣልኩን ከም ውሑጅ ዝውርውረልካ ዘለኹን፥፥ ሓንቲ ሰንተንስ ኣንቢብካ ሶሪ ስለ ዝበልካኒ፥ ሶሪ ናትካ ክይትስሕባ መታን፥ በል ሕጂ ኣነ ሶሪ ከብለካ፥፥ መኽንያቱ በርሀ_የ አዝንኻ ኾርክዕ ኣጽሪ ኢለ ስለ ዝመኾርኩኻ፥፥

            ኣብ ካልአ ክትዓት ኣገደስቲ ምስ አነ ባዓል ሓሚድ ኣል-ዓርቢን፥ ፕሮፈሶር ጳውሎስ ደንማርኪኖ ዓርከይን ንስኻን ዘበርክቶ ኣሎኒ አሞ፥ ኣቡኡ የራኽበና፥፥ ቆይቂ ወይ ምርግጋሕ አንተ ደኣ ክትቕጽል ደሊኻ፥ በዓል ተመሳሰልቲ ክንቲት ብሓንሳብ ስል ዝነፍራ፥ ሓንጎል ደርሆ ንትሪክ ኣሎካ ኣዝዩ ምሳንይትኻ መዘናኻ፥፥

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSatSe,

            Thank you for taking the time to write. I know you deserve a better reply than what I am writing now. However, I do agree with most of what you said in this post and there is nothing more to add.

            I will do my very best to engage with you positively and shutdown my “negative radar” that probably triggers automatically when I read you (may be due to very, very long time negative exchanges over the years).

            All I can say is, I am glad to see you focused in your fight towards the dictator. I am being sincere and please take it for what it’s intended.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            The Eritrean Muslims are telling you, we wanted Arabic to be our official language

            Hi Berhe; I can’t believe it, even Thomas figured you out. lol How pathetically predictable can you be? Now, you said the Muslims are spoken.” Who are the Muslims” The Muslim people or just the Muslim elites you are supporting blindly what ever they say? Now Ask the freaking question; who are you referring when you said ” The Eritrean Muslims”?

            I will just ignore your stupid remarks. Because you didn’t do out of your character. You just don’t have it, if not no sane person will say this stupid BS.

            ” why don’t we allow Ethiopia to have a say and vote on our referendum if we must stay with them or separate? You don’t think that’s fair question….

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc Hangol Derho,

            Eritrean Muslims, who else. Do me a favor, why don’t you show me an Eritrean Muslim from any where in the world, arguing against Arabic as national language in Eritrea. Face book, you tube, Hadas Eritrea, TV Ere, from any where….

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc Dear,
            Please take this at face value and don’t read anything else, just the plain comment I am making.
            You seem to believe that in politics, the elite and non-elite are different. Wrong. It’s the elite who represent the interest of their constituency. You can ask if anyone has a constituency or not, but do not make it sound the two speak in different voices. If the elite do not represent the aspirations and wishes of their constituency, they will be shunned or replaced by another elite. Don’t expect the common person to represent a constituency in negotiations, political debates, articulation, etc. We cannot delegitimize the Eritrean struggle because it was conceived and executed by the elite. If the elite didn’t have the support of a constituency, they would have stopped long ago. Just a though you should entertain–elite is not a four-letter word. It’s five 🙂

          • Nitricc

            Hey SG; The reason I am mentioning “elites” is because of what I am observing from the ever confused Tigryans. I was following their
            diaspora BS in Mekelle and the elites wanted independent Tigray while the people have no interest for such thing. So, I was wondering if this Arabic thing is the same thing. I think Arabic used in Eritrea in every public situations right along Tigrigna. I don’t understand what more is needed. If Arabic is more to be practiced than already is, I am a believer that the local languages to be swallowed and lost. For instance; why would a Bilen kid bother to learn his ethnic language if Arabic could for him? But if the people wanted for Arabic to be their choices then let it be. As long as the people not the elites, it is all good.

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitric,
            If I reply to you regarding your understanding of the role of the elite, I will have to copy and paste my earlier comment. Please check it again on your own.
            You are saying that Arabic is used in the public sphere. Of course, not one can stop people from talking any language they wish in private.
            Now tell me: if you are educated in Arabic only, and you are an Eritrean do you think you have equal opportunity to jobs and other benefits?
            If you write an application to a public office, you would be told to translate it first.
            If you go to court—well, there are no nine of dozen language translators.
            You might not know it, but no one knows all the language of Eritrea. In the lowlands, they communicated (at least as I remember it) in Arabic. So, it is a right thing, not religious or anything else as many want to make it appear.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Ustaz Saleh Johar,

          Habesha is the geography of the once existing country. The country named Habesha is not available at present world map. Habesha is not an ethnic group; it is just the name of a country existed once in the old world. If anyone of those who says we are Habesh asked by a foreigner he will never respond, I am Habeshi. However, he will answer, I am from Ethiopia, Somali, Djibouti, Sudan, Eritrea, etc. I wonder, why are some of us adamantly clinging to this identity, though it was the name of a very old country? Our forefathers called themselves Habesh because they were living in the country name Habesha. However, at present, the geopolitics of the world changed, and it is rational to forget saying, I am Habeshi.

          In the forties of the last century, during our peaceful struggle for independence, there were no classes that compel Eritrean political leaders to call for the emancipation of serfs. In Eritrea, there were only traditional leaders of tribes and their tribes. There is no trace or evidence of DANADAYS or BARATOLOS in the history of Eritrea. It is strange to imagine a tribe leader was enslaving his kinsmen.

          Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan devised Shimaglea and Tigre to beat his political rivals to lead the Muslim League. Logically, how does a leader raise a class struggle at the time was struggling for independence? Secondly, there was no general election, but every tribe was represented by its tribal leader. Even if there was a class difference, I think it was not the right time to advance such an issue. Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan should have worked hard to unite the Muslim League instead of splitting it.

          His advancement of class struggle which had no trace in Eritrea forced some of the tribal leaders – Kantibas, Diglalls, Sheikhs, Shumis, and Nazirs – to join the Andinet Party. Both of them, Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan and the tribal leaders, caused a grave mistake to their people. They destroyed the social fabric of their tribes. This attack continued on our social fabric by the atheists in ELF, EPLF and at present by Isaias. The atheists found in the personal political interests of Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan a very rich commodity. They embraced the idea without subjecting it to well-founded research and then propagate for it widely. These unreal impurities still pertain in the psyches of many Eritreans.

          I guess you agree with me that the lowlanders are nomads or semi-nomads. You equally concur with me that the history of Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan is alive and kicking among us. Now, I request from you to give me the names of ሰሓብቲ ግመል who owned serfs (slaves). You could likewise support your evidence with the names of slaves whom Sheik Ibrahim Sultan emancipated. If you fail to provide me with a feudal ሰሓቢ ግመል, then bestow me with the names of plantations in which serfs worked and the feudals who possess them.

          All over Ethiopia, the word Tigre is an insult. Isaias has named all ethnic groups according to their language except two groups – the Tigre and Rashaida. The former language’s name is Tigrayet, and the later language name is Arabic. He named both of them outside the norm, he followed. I think this was with a purpose. I guess he wanted to remove the insult, TIGRE, from his kinsmen and glue it to the Tigrayet language speakers. Secondly, he intended to affix the word slavery – that Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan coined – to the Tigrayet language speakers. He also selected the name Rashaida to escape from mentioning the word Arabi. At the same time, it is a clear attempt to erase the Arabic language from Eritrea.

          Al-Arabi

  • sara

    dear all…
    history in the making in sudan………….freedom.peace and justice has prevailed
    let us congradulate our sisters and brothers in sudan.
    medenya!!!!!

    • መርሓባ ሳራ፣

      ከመይ ቀኒኺ፥

      ኣል በላብል ካነን ይስኩና ፊ ቢላደን ቐብላት ዒማራት ጀምባ ስሓፋ፡ ላአ ዘለጥ፥ ኣሽረቕ፥፥ ኣል ጠሪቕት ኣል ሾቕ ለማ ተምሺ ምን መዲና ዓላ ጂሬፍ ገልዓ ወ ሸጣ። የጉሉሁ ሓሳ ኣል ሰፈር ኣል ኩወይት የምክን ኣርኩዌት?
      ኢኽዋኒክ ካነን የቐኒያ፥

      “ጠሪቕ ኣል ሾክ መሼናሆ…”
      “ምስሄና መሼና መሼና…”

      عدالة حرية سلام ዓሌክን ኢኽዋና ኣል ሱዳኒን.።

      ጃሽዋ!

      ጻጻ

  • Peace!

    Hi All,

    ኣነ ዝግርመኒ ኢሉ ሐደ እቶም ተጋደልቲ እንታይ እዮም ዝጽበዩ ዘለው ዘይበልዑሉ ዘይሰተይሉ ንምንታይ ተስከምቲ ገበን ናይ ህግደፍ ዝኾኑ ኣብዚ ግዜ ኢዚኣቶም በየን መጽዮምና እንዳበለ ሰብ ማይ ተሳኢኑ ናይ ዚንጎ እዩ ዝስቲ ዘሎ ኣምንቲ ምንታይ ተጋዳላይ ይልከም እዩ ነገሩ::

    ሓደ ግዜ ንሓደ በዓል ታኽሲ እዚ ኣምጽእ ኣዚ ወስኽ ሊቸንሳ ቐይሮ ናይ ስውኣት ክፈል ካብዚ ንላዕሊ ከይተኽፍል ኢሎም ልቡ ምስኣጥፍኡሉ ተባሳጭዩ ለይቲ ብኹንትራት ኣብ Expo ምፍታን ይሓይሽ ኢሉ ወሲኑ ኣብቲ ግዜ ናይወጻኢ ኣጋይሽ flat rate ስጋብ 500 ናቕፍ ኩንትራት ይኸፍሉ ነይሮም::

    በዓል ታኽሲ ቀትሪ ድቅስ ዊዒሉ ወጋሕታ ናብ Expo ከይዱ ከም ሰቡ ሪጋ ተስሪዑ ፈገም እንዳበለ ተጸበየ Expo ተወዲኡ ኩላ ሰብ ታክሲ በብ 500 ጺዒና ትመላለስ ጀመረት ሪጊኡ ምስበጸሐት ክልተ ተጋደልቲ እትው ኢሎም ቃኝው በልዎ ባዓል ታክሲ ወይ ትዕድለይ ኡሉ በሉ ንኽትፈልጡ ዕዳጋ 500 ግን ናዓኹም 400 ምስበሎም ተጸሊልካ ናብዚኣ ናይ ሓሙሽተ ደቒቕ መንገዲ ናብ ሳሕል ዳኣ ክንደይ ክትብለና ኢኻ በሉዎ ወዮ ዝመረሮ ባዓል ታኽሲ ዘይትምለሱ እንተኾንኩም ብጥራዩ ኢሉዎም:)

    Have a good weekends!!

    Peace!

    • Paulos

      Selam Abi Seb,

      Thank you for the laugh. One of the two customers must have been Muhamuday and the other, I let you guess. Great weekend to you to ma bro.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Peace,

      You have forgotten one very important payment ናይ ዝመጽእ ውግእ ክፈል

      Al-Arabi

    • Haile S.

      Selam Peace,

      If you know this taxi driver personally :-), please tell him to move immediately to Massawa. According to tesfanews, Superyachts are coming to Eritrean waters and ports. Those potentially allergic to TN can read the original article at https://www.superyachtnews.com/owner/eritrea.
      It is a revealing article on how the country is run and the so called government (dys)functions.
      Just to mention one paragraph from the article: “…..we discovered that wrecks within the Red Sea’s Eritrean waters were owned by the political party, not the minister for maritime transport or the minister for tourism. It was quite odd really,” Mackay-Lewis explains.”
      I leave the rest to read by yourselves.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,
        Good reading. Unfortunately, the money that comes out of it will go to the coffers of the party and not to the well being of Eritrean people. Thank you.

        • Haile S.

          Hi Emma,
          Of course! I was commenting sarcastically.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Selamat Emma/Hailat!

          ቀናእ ኮይነ

          ምሁር ክሪኢ ከለኹ
          ኩሉ ግዜ ብውሽጠይ ምስ በኸኹ

          ሃብታም ክርኢ
          ከይተረደኣኒ ይቐየር ናብ ዝብኢ
          ዓየነይ ደም ይመልኣኒ
          መንጥሎ-መንጥሎ መጸኒ

          ነቲ ዝተማህረ
          ንኡስ ቡርጅዋ ይብሎ ኔረ
          ስለ ዝበልጸኒ ብፍልጠት
          ብናተይ ሓሳብ ብጥርጣረ ይጥመት

          ነቲ ሃብታም ስለ ዝበልጸኒ ብገንዝብ
          የቕነኣኒ ኔሩ ከም ወዲ ሰብ
          ይወናወን ከሕድጎ
          ወረ ካብ ዓዱ ክሰጎ

          ኤእ ኣይትመክሑ
          በታ ኣነ ዝሓለፍክዋ ተትሓልፉ
          ኣብ ጎብታት ሳሕል ዓመታት ተትብርኹ
          ከምዛ ናተይ ዘይተግብረ ክትፍብርኹ

          ሰጋእ ኣይምበልኩምን
          ደሓን

          ንሕለፍ ዓመታት ንቕድሚት
          ኣብ ሳሕል ዘጥረኹወን ክእለት
          ሕጂ ይመጸነ ‘ሎ መንጥል-ዝመት
          ናይ ሲቪልያን ንብረት

          ኣይትፍረዱኒ
          ኣመል ምስ መግነዝ ‘ዩ ኮይኑኒ
          ኡስ ሎም መዓስ ኮይኖም ኮለኔል ሸይሞምኒ

      • Hope

        Hailat:
        Here is what another Tourist and Writer said:
        “……Massawa has one of the biggest tourism potentials I have ever seen from the 100 countries that I now have been to. There are paradise beaches just a short boat ride away, also their history, world-class diving in the red sea, and of course, Italian food.”.
        The minimum estimated income form basic Tourism and Fishing Industry is said to be:
        $500 Million..per annum.The income would triple if it is developed to a world Standard.The reason I come up with the word “Sadist”..
        I understand that the 20 yrs of war and NO war and NO Peace status has been the major obstacle but there have been ways to develop this cheap but lucrative business.
        Source: The Unknown Traveller.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Hope,

          Yes, there are many places in Eritrea that have the potential to bring millions in tourism income. The problem is, the so called government tries to patch things instead of solving the root causes. It is trying to treat the ulcer overlying the skin cancer. The root cause is itself and its policies. It takes the courage of a true martyr to solve problems whose solution risks eradicating oneself.

          • Hope

            Hailat:
            There are better links about our Eritrea’s Disneyland/World but this will help .
            https://www.unusualtraveler.com/massawa-a-forgotten-gem-by-the-red-sea-in-eritrea/

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            Did your masters recommend that it is a good link? I know your masters do the job of thinking for you, and yours is in an open vacation. For you, everything that your masters say is true. It is true because our masters said it. As I said in my previous comment, this is one of the pillars that hinder stagnant societies from development. The second pillar is our forefathers said it; therefore, it is true. As we observe, in both pillars the receiver’s mind doesn’t question what the masters, or forefathers said.

            The people of Eritrea decided to liberate Eritrea and succeeded by defeating their enemy. Isaias decided to fight Ethiopia; however, he failed. He ruled Eritrea for three decades, here too he has fallen a thunderous fall. Now explain to me, where does the colossal success of Isaias dwell? My friend, your masters failed a catastrophic failure to read actuality on the ground. Precisely, they suffer from mindblindness.

            CERTIFICATES FOR ALL, KNOWLEDGE FOR THE CAPABLE.

            Al-Arabi

          • Hope

            Al Arabia:
            Jella Jelalaka bela Wed Andom!

            Wo’llahi Al Azim Al Arabi,merra ewwunn ow heni merra shakir halekka!

            Melehey,FYI,Yom SENBET ABBAY ‘ta.

            Rebbi lisdekka wo sammahakka wed Ad!

            Dear Simon KaleAb the Diagnostician!

            Where r u?
            Indeed,a Confused and lost soul behind repair!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            Your immigrant intimate friend has taken a big dose of conduct. He is murmuring now. ጉሉል ምጋሩ ሑ ጉሉል ጋሩ

            Al-Arabi

          • እይይይዋዋዋaaaa
            مع መዓ ተምር
            መሼና ምን ኣየዋ (Iowa)
            ላኪን ዓይዚን ማሳዋ
            ናአኩል ጠብዓን ኣል ዓጅዋ
            ነሽረብ ኣል ሞያ ኣል ዓድዋ
            ንገርዋ
            ግደፍዎ ትምህርቲ ናይ ሳዋ
            ዓጠን ትኪ
            በቲ ጟልኪ ትበኪ
            ንስኺ ግን ዝበልኪ
            ናትኪ

            ዓልላለይ
            የአዊያለይ
            ኣብዳለይ
            ሰተያለይ
            ጽሞቓለይ
            ኣጽርያለይ
            ጉዐሽ ጸራይ
            ነቒለ ኣለኹ ን ኣየዋ
            ክብሎም ንዑ ዓንድሩላ ማሳዋ
            ዘይ ከይ ወግሐ ዝወሰድዋ
            ወርሒ ተሪፋታ ጥንሲ
            መርቕ ዝዋሓዶ ፍትፍት
            ስልሲ
            ኑቐጽ ደረቕ ጥብሲ
            ቺና ንስኽስ መንያ ሽምኪ
            ጡሽ ክትውቢብኢ
            ዝኹሉ ትኪ ትኪ ትኪ
            ከፊትኪ ኣልጋነሽ ኣፍኪ
            ናይ ብሓቂ
            በሉ ፈውስዋ ቆንንዋ
            ንገርዋ
            ከምዘሎ ንሱ?
            መን ኣታ፧፧ ? ፧፧

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

    • Blink

      Dear peace
      This joke is hilariously funny to the people who are lurking the internet by bringing the campaign and propaganda to degrade the ተጋደልቲ while they know for sure ተጋዳላይ is suffering more than these who crying fool . This is also one part of attacking the work Tegadalay by people who spend their time gossiping around the western capitals .

      The propaganda comes through different colors and these people who paint such picture are these who has been in constant contact with lies and fabrications like the Foro , and some ex
      ELF fighters as well as their weyane pay masters . Tegadalay can’t afford 400 even not 100 as he is too tired to go to disco because most of his available job is cry bags as well as some PFDJ luckies who use Eritrea as tourist destination. So peace your joke is a lies and cowardly script.

  • A thought?

    Has it occurred to any body else other than myself of the con·spic·u·ous absence of the Arabic script considering the subject matter? Other than in the title, and brhan’s shukrann aleff baE Ta sa Ha raE zaEE …. wala wale zeyteQelqela? Entay ybehall izi?

    JASHUA!

    tSAtSE

  • ኽላአ እቕኒኦምና አዞም ኣዝማሪኖ

    አነ በአእል ህይለ ቲስ
    ዘኪሮም ናይ ቀደሞም ላቲዝ
    ሕካየኦም ዋላ አንተ ኾነ ለዚዝ
    አሞ ዶ ኦሞ መንገዲ ባቡር ሳምና
    ከዘኻኹሩና
    ይመስሎም ዝሕክመና
    ቡቻ ብ ኤቨር ረዲ ባቴሪ ኢዩ ኔር
    መጻወቲና
    ጨርቂ ወረቐት ወቲፍና
    ውሽጢ ካልሲ ኩዕሰና
    ገርጉር ዓካት ሃንደሳና
    ኤሮ ዳይናሚክስ ከነጽንዕ
    ማዓ ያሕሌሎም ኣብ መታሕት
    ደቂ ሕለትና
    ሉሕ ተሰኪሞም ክሓፍዙ
    ቃል ፈጣሪና
    ኣንት ‘ሕዎተይ ኣዝማሪኖ ኣዝማሪኖ መሊኣ ዛ ገዛና
    ካን ከቕንኡና ኣብ ‘ዝ ጽሞናና
    ከናፍቑና ደቂ ሐለትና
    ገዛውቲ ከምዘይነበርና ደቂ ገዛውትና!
    ግን ሰሓቕኩም ጸወታኹም ይውስኸሉ ኣሎ
    ፍሽኽታና ሰብ መታሒት ኤርትራ ኢዩ ወትሩ
    ኣመልና፥ አወ ፍሽኽታ ኣመልና፥፥

    ጃ ሽ ዋ!

    ጻጸ

    (በሉ ረኣዩ ጉድ ስራሕ ናይ መሃንዲስ-ምዕባለ፥፥ ኣንስ ሙሁንዲስ ኢየ በሃላይ ኢየ፥፥ ኣተባብዕኒ ውይ ምምሕያሽ ተስፋ ኣልካ ብሉኒ ወይ ከኣ አታ ሓቂ፥ ንስኻስ ተዘይቀጸልካዮ ምሓሸ በል፥ ናይ ኣዚሎን ቀዳማይ ክፍልን/ደረጃ ጥራሕ ዘርከብኩለን ዝ ኣረኹወን ፊደላት ሃ ለ ሓ መ ኢየን፥፥ ብ እምሆይ ትዌንቲ ዶላርስ ከፊለ ግ ኢዝ ሶፍትዌር ሎድ ዝገበርኩው ሎም ስለ ዝዘከርዋስ በዓል ሓድሽ መተራስ ኮይነልኩም ዘለኹ፥፥ አዛ መዝገብ ቃላት ካ ኣ ኣላ ባ ግን ነዊሓ፥፥ በሉ ተሳሓቑ ነንሕድሕድኩም ፍሽኽ ክንብል፥፥)

    ጃሽዋ!

    ጻጸ

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ሰላማት ማሕበር ገጠምቲ
      ጻጸ ተሓዊሱ ማይ ክሰቲ
      ሰናይ ክረምቲ!

      መርሓባ ጻጸ እቶ ገዛ
      ሻሕሻሕ ክብለልና ኣኸዛ

      ትፈደል ሽሻይ ናይ ጀበና
      ሼር ክንገብሮ ሓቢርና

  • Hope

    Selam Ustaz SGJ:
    Spot on and a near perfect “Sermon”.
    This is one of the most articles of yours that I agree with and enjoy.
    Please put it on a BRANNA….and circulate it and make it viral.
    I expxetc this to be part of the new Eri Constitution.

    • Hope,

      Ha! Yeah it kinda grows on you doesn’t it? That there is great introspection going on is evident as Ghadi seems to progress and iron out numerous wrinkles in his opener and prior to. Not quite convinced is he is undergoing self healing because I still sense there is a tinge of sarcasms and dare I say an arrogance and self righteousness of sorts. I do have a finger on it and I believe Ghadi has the proven capacity to reach the sought high elevated reality. Now I wouldn’t entrust any highly sensitive security codes to detonate WMDs or nuclear weaponry. He strikes me as the sort of guy who would strike a match because he believes the after effect would be a great source of study material. At times I think certain events in our history were significant in their betrayal the after shock waves of great disappointments reverberate to this very day and some of us may misperceive it as thoughts from stagnant minds. Only because we believe that such barriers have long been eradicated including in the courts of out collective cause’s main nemesis.

      For instance, I tend to lean on this theory that Eritrean Muslims have in fact were the better beneficiaries under the regime of Dictator Isaias Afeworki more than have been Eritrean Christians. Baring Haj Mussa and the Akria uprising on the whole Eritrean Muslims tend to conduct their business inside Eritrea and Eritrea’s close surrounding areas. Those in the Middle East are compliant with nearly all GoE’s decrees simply because they must because the passport is essential for their existence and foreign residency say in KSA or the Gulf States. Then they manage to exist and thrive under the regime without much complaint. They are patient and more in touch with Eritrea as they would make frequent trips to and fro Eritrea. Sort of like Protestant Christians discipline and patience to thrive under the extreme dire of circumstances and under a brutal regime at times. I am daring to say that more Eritrean Muslims are in support of the Dictator in Eritrea because they tend to be more vested investors who are averse to any rocking of the boat because they are content with the current returns. The fanning of the dying flames on and around the traditional fault lines may make many of us think that the Eritrean Muslims are more sidelined and or oppressed by the current regime. And such headlines are catchy due to euphoric feelings and nostalgia of, for the most part harmless tags each subculture put on one another but do include severe frictions and moments of strong conflicts/battles against one another. The fifties and the Eritrean parliament the split by General Ibrahim Affa, Mohamednoor and co, the Obelawian unit as well as Abraham Teckle’s, Solomon Woldermariam including the sneaky skeemer sadist dictator Isaias, the comming together at Alla and the subsequent hunt by the ELF against these newly formed united force… of course the vindictive sadist dictator Isaias inflamed the bad to worst when his forces teamed with the TPLF to get rid of the same ELF in 1980-81. Where as the returnees and cooperative with dictatorship regime Eritrean Muslims who favored or were at one time or the other affiliated with ELF are not politicized, some folks even here would readily view the Christian ELF cooperating with dictatorship as those who are naturally favored because the ruling class is Christian.

      We should NOT undermine the Muslim Eritrean’s ability to adapt to very harsh environment and thrive and strengthen politically and socially. The Muslim Eritrean is powered and more poised to effect change. The Muslim Eritrean does in wield power in Eritrea today. And the regime does cater to his needs for fear of rebellion. It seems to me the regime is more preoccupied and is engaged in a genocide like warfare against the highlander christian that is mounting an albeit disorganized frontal attack and threat to his power at present. I am also of the opinion that the majority population wise in Eritrea are the Eritrean Muslims guarding methodically their society’s interests quietly. I say this because of the following reason. Whereas immediately after the abrogation of the Eritrean-Ethiopian Federation the Eritrean Muslims organized and acted in lightning speed to expedite the ejection fo the Ethiopian regimes, as we all know the foundation and massive participation of the Eritrean revolution were first and foremost Eritrean Muslims from both the lowlands and the highlands, against the current sadist dictatorship of Isaias their performance has been lackluster in comparison. The deduction here is the Eritrean Muslim being better off under this current regime than under the Ethiopian occupations.
      Finally, the question of official language seems to be more of a luxury item than pertinent present day Eritrean existential issues which only those who have their basic necessities and essential for survival needs tend to be met.
      There, I have enunciated ONLY A THEORY that should provoke a few folks who I have opened the gate wide open for them to enter and set me straight. Or they will simply contemplate about it. For the life of me I have never ever had thoughts of advocating for a specific Eritrean nationality of religion particularly the Tigrigna. My over four decades in foreign lands and amongst hundreds of nationalities and cultures has long made me forget that I am a Tigrigna. That I am an Eritrean however has been unshakable and unforgettable. But topics such as this is having an effect for closer examination and from multiple multidimensional angles in an effort to clear the wool possibly covering my vision.
      Yeah, I do feel our people are suffering arrested development of some sort OR perhaps I may be the lone person suffering from such a debilitating ailment, i.e. suffering from arrested development myself.

      The confidence and boldness of Ghadi in this new installment was apparent as opposed to his weaker presentation and argumentation of the prior one. Reluctantly, I applaud minnn Khamsa lil Sita min AAshera.

      JOSHUA!

      tSAtSE

    • Saleh Johar

      Thank you Hope,
      But basic math teaches us that One Jab + One Cheer = 0.

      • Hope

        Hahah UStaz SGJ:
        Stay posiitve.Am glad it is not below 0 or negative/sotto zero.

  • Blink

    Dear all

    Who is loyal to Eritrea ? This is very vague question that many of you will give different answers based on your own understanding but others will also play their dishonest screw to make their case . But seriously ,who is Eritrean ? The nativists will play every card once their main goal collapsed and dead ( Qeronlos and his idiot ) yet they can never decide Who is Eritrean. I don’t believe one can claim his Eritranism while he bash the other on different side of their political agenda and the other side doing the same.

    For me Issias is Eritrean as any other human being who claim Eritrean , what I oppose is his distractive policies . can we have citizenships based on percentile ? We can. No one among you can claim to be more Eritrean than any one in the opposition or in HGDEF camp .

    SG jumped to the TPLF and EPLF old alliance against his organization but he did forget it was ELF who decided that no other organization should find space in the revolution ( ELF was already ready to Eradicate any second wing of Eritrean military revolution) ሜዳ ኤርትራ ካብ ሓደ ውድብ ንላዕሊ ክሕዝ ኣይክእልን እዩ and second the seraye ELF representative was throwing people to death raw for flying chicken , third SG forgot to mention his party decision to eliminate Haraka just for the sake of controlling the field .
    Alula was a deceiver just like others from Tigray elites and what he did was mainly for religious ambitions and I think others can go and google and find out about the Arabs , Ottman and Somalians who where zooming to advance a religious ambitions. Now some people accuse PFDJ as filled with Tigrinja speakers mainly originated from Tigray which is intelligently trying to deceive others thinking “ they are not one of us” , False , False , They are all Eritreans and we can go down to who they are one by one . Again Who are these claiming ” ደቀ ባት ” , I mean admitting our failure to create a base shouldn’t be push as seeking for escape-goat windows , They all are Eritreans and solid Eritreans and infact some people’s brothers and relatives .

    It has been always the case that weyane were always happy to see Issias destroy Eritrea to ground zero and if Eritreans tried to oppose Issias with one voice well Meles kids and his helpers divided Eritreans in two ethnic grievances and religious lunatics on and on , non stope for 17 years .

    We will overcome Issias and others , it is just a question of time .

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Blink,

      “he did forget it was ELF who decided that no other organization should find space in the revolution.”

      In history books, there were not multiple revolutions at a specific period in one country. For example, we have the French revolution, the Russian revolution, the Chinese revolution, etc. As you know, a revolution is against one enemy; therefore, all the people should unite and fight their enemy in unison. What ELF said is correct; nonetheless, we could speak about how they tackle it.

      Before few months, we have a revolution in Sudan. All Sudanese opposition and the people of Sudan united to defeat Al-Bashier. In Eritrea – the country of wonders – they had made multiple revolutions in the past. Similarly, they dig deep at present to make multiple revolutions. The people of Eritrea expect to hear their opposition united; however, they surprise them with a communique that two parties of the same color united. It is really a shame. We are doomed only to make reaction.

      Al-Arabi

      • Blink

        Dear Hameed
        I mean another military organization not another revolution, remember the revolution was started way way in 1940th not in 1961 .

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Blink,

          The peaceful revolution of the forties and fifties failed to succeed, then the people of Eritrea started an armed revolution. The armed struggle had taken a long time due to our failure to understand the nature of a revolution. Some of us changed the revolution era to party competitions as if we were under an independent nation. The armed revolution succeeded in scoring half of the target. At present Eritreans require a new and united revolution to liberate the people of Eritrea. Don’t forget a revolution should be one as a government is one. There are no two revolutions for a specific target and period.

          Al-Arabi

      • ኡስታዝና ሓሚድ ኣል-ዓረቢ፣

        ግን ነቲ ሞኽስኻ ሓሚድ ኢድሪስ ዓዋተ ዘባርዖ ተ ሓ ኤ ዝኾስከሶ ሽዓብ ኤርትርያ ዝዛዘሞ ኤርትራዊ ሰውራ ዓቢ ዝና ዘለዎ ካብ ሰውራታት ኣብ ታሪኽ ዓለም ከም ዘይዝንገዓና ንኹሉና ኣይጠራጠርን ኣነ፥፥ አዚ ኤርትራዊ ሰውራ ቀጻሊን መወዳአታ ከምዘይብሉን ካኣ ኩሉ ወዲ ሃገር ኣይስሕቶን ኢዩ፥፥ ኢቲ ምንታይ አንተብልና? መኽንያቱ ደሕሪ ኢቲ ናይ ግድን ዓወትና፥ ዝሕፈስ ዓወታት ማአለያ ዘይብሉ ይጽበየና ኢይ፥፥ ሕጂ ውን ን አግርመገድና ተደማሪ ዓወታት፥ ይናስ ይዕበ ክሕረመና የብሉን፥፥ ንጸብጽቦ አሞ፥ አንተ ውሒዱና ኣቶኪርና ክዝይድ ጽዕርና ምሕያል ከም ዘድልየና ንግንዘብ፥፥

        ጃሽዋ!

        ጻጸ

    • Hope

      Spot on Ya Gen wo Ustaz Blink!
      I told you that you have more than enough knowledge and brain to debate with facts provided you tone down and avoid nonessential adjectives and pronouns!
      Just use Ashmur rather than direct adjectives to hit few to be hit reasonably!

      • Blink

        Dear Hope
        Thanks , I try my best to stay away from personal pointing abusive words even though many people used abusive words against me in this forum ,What you have to understand is Ashmur sometimes are not nice . The justice pendulum in this form is tilted to some people’s favor and if you collide with them or pin pointed their bad agenda they will cry like a bat and call for the ban or delet your comment , you remember what happened to you and your comment , they didn’t even warn berhe for the words he used . Any way it is not that I can’t debate with these so called dr or weyane cadres or weyane sympathizers, it is just that I don’t believe we are in a good level playing field at all .

        • Hope

          Selamat Bro Blink:
          Agreed that we should NEVER EVER kneel down but only when shooting and praying(oops,I forgot that you are an “Atheist”).

          • Are you saying Blink or Blank
            doesn’t spank
            the crank
            After the crook
            all he took
            from the shook
            Are you saying Blank on his day
            couldn’t stay
            what do you say
            is there a ray
            a ray a ray erey erey
            of Hope the sat the grinch
            inch by inch
            it is not a sinch
            to stink
            like blink
            oh my lord all this ink this ink this ink
            I think
            I wink
            Are you saying he doesn’t shoot
            over the banks crank clinch sinch inch
            this stink ink I think he doesn’t shoot
            this blink.
            Are you saying pray and stay
            kneel make a deal in the REAL
            in a wink and blink
            in Zink you will sink
            do so now be wise and LINK.

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ኤማ & all

    ሃገር ብዘይ ህዝቢ
    ሓንጎል ብዘይ ቀልቢ
    ደም ዘይትጭንጉዕ ልቢ
    ንግስቶም ዘጥፍኡ ዕስለ ንህቢ
    ኣብካልእ ኣይርከብን ብጀካ ‘ንዳ ህግደፍ ከባቢ

    ንካልእ ሰብ ኖርማል ኣይኮነን
    እንዳ ህግደፍ ግን ኩሉ ኣይተሳእነን
    ብኩፕን መቚነን ማይ ብጀሪካን
    ‘ተንቱቦታት ማይ ግን መሪተን

    ናይ ቋንቋ ህግደፍ መተርጎሚ
    መጽሓፍ ክወጽእ ‘ዩ ኢሎምኒ
    ትኾርምየኒ ትጨብጠኒ
    ይጽበ ኣለኹ ‘ንተተረዳኒ
    ስለምንታይ
    ኩሉ ብምግምጥልሽ ስለዝኾነኒ
    ንግዜኡ ግን
    ን ሆፕ ዶ ክሓቶ እንተሰመዓኒ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      ሰላም ማሃንድሳይ,

      ኣድራጋ ዝሕይኹ ሰባት’ዶ ሪኢኻ ትፈልጥ? ሆፕ ከአ ንተጻረርቲ ሓሳባት ብሓባር ስለዝንሰዖም: ሓንሳብ ምስ ተቃወምቲ ሓንሳብ ከአ ምስ መንግስቲ ከንሳፍፍ ክትሪኦ ናይ ግድን’ዩ::

      እዞም ከምዚ ዝአመሰሉ ሰባት ኣብ መወዳእትኡ ምስዝሰዓረ ወገን እዮም ዝውገኑ:: ዝኣምንሉ “መትከላዊ ክብርታት” የብሎምን:: ምስኦም ኣብ ክትዕ እትኣትወሉ ጊዜ ኸአ: ከም ፔንድሉም ካብ የማን ንጸጋም ስለ ዝላኸዑ : ንሓሳባቶም ጠሚርካ ክትካትዖ አሻጋሪ’ዩ:: ዋላውን እስከ ክፍትን ኢልካ ኣብ ትገጥመሉ ኸአ: በተን ሉሙዳት ጸርፊ ህግደፍ እዮም ዝድምድምዎ:: እቲ ንግዜኻ ዝምልከት: ኣብ ከምዚኦም ዝአመሰሉ ሰባት: አድላይነቱ ይኹን ዘይኣድላይነቱ ንዓኻ ይገድፎ::

      ምስ ኣኽብሮት

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ኤማ

        መቸም ‘ዛ መርበብ ዓዋተ ተወልፈካ ንድያ: ከፊተ ምንባብ ምስ ጀመርኩ ኣብ ‘ዛ ናትካ በጺሐ።
        “ኣድራጋ ዝሕይኹ ሰባት’ዶ ሪኢኻ ትፈልጥ?”

        ዝሰትያ ዝነበርኩ ቡን ሰርኒቓትኒ ኔራ። ኣብ ጥቓይ ኮፍ ዝብል ሰብ ደሓን ዲኻ ክብል ሓተተ።
        ጉዳይ ስራሕና ክንድዚ ከምዘየስሕቕ የዕርዩ ይፈልጥ ‘ዩ። ‘ኳ ደኣ ገጽካ የጨመድድ።
        ከተርጉመሉ ፈቲነ ግን ኣብ ምትርጓም ትሕዝቶ ናይ ‘ዛ ሰንተንስ መቓረታ ኣጥፊአላ መስለኒ ኣይተመሰጠን።
        ነቨርማይንድ ድማ በልኩዎ።
        You made my day and Happy Friday!

        • ሰላማት ኣያ ኣማኔልን መሃንድስ-ሞዕባለን፡

          ሆፕ/ተስፋ ከም ቀልጢ ግን ቀላጦ ኣብ ኢዱ ዓቲሩ መዳራይ ተሃንዳዲ ኢዩ፥፥

          ጃሽዋ!

          ጻጸ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ጻጸ
            ናይ ጃስዋ ካብ ኣምጻእካ: ሰብኣይ ኣልጋነሽ ቺና ምዃኑ ንመጀመርታ ግዜ
            ካብቲ ለባም መንእሰይ “ፋኑስ” ቅድሚ ክልተ ሰሙን ‘የ ፈሊጠ።

            ሰብ ያ ኣበይ ከምዝ ኣተወ ዘይፍለጥሲ ሰበይቱ ምስ ሓራዲ ሰብኣያ ኣብ በይ ኤርያ ተዳኽር ቀን ‘ያ?
            እንታይ ‘ዩ ናትና ነገር? መግለጺ ‘ኳ ተሳኢኑዎ ሎምስ።

          • ሰላማት መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ፥

            ፋኑስ ወይ ፋኑኤል ከምይ ገሩ ከም ዝገልጻ ሕጂ ክኸፍታ ኢየ፥፥

            አወ ጽቡቕ ኣሎኻ ቡዙሕ ኣሎ ናትና መግለጺ ዝተሳአኖ፡፡ ገሌና ዋል ኩላትና ኣብዘን ዝሓለፋ ዕስራታት ዓመታት ልክዕ ተመሳሳሊ ታሪኽ ዝሰሓንናያ ኢና፥፥ አቲ መግለጺ ዝተሳአኖ ግን ከይ ደኸምና ከነናድዮ ኣለና ናይ ግድን፥፥ መኽንያቱ ነብስነከፍና ክንፍውስ አንደሕር ዂና ነንሕድሕድና ክንተሓኻኸም ኣሎና፥፥
            ን ኣብነት፥ ወይ ቅድም ቀዳድም ናይ ፍሰሃየ “ጃሽዋ” የውሃንስ አቲ ኣዝዩ ዘሕዝንን (ዝ ግሬትስት ትራጂዲ) ዛንታ ሓድ ትኩርን ተባዕን ሰፊሕን ነዊሕን ራኢ ዝነበሮ፥ አቲ ዝዓበየን ሀገር መሪሑ ዝሃንጽን ታሪኽ ንጹህ ተቓላሳይ ኤርትራዊ ኢዩ፥፥ ስ አሊን ቀንዲ ትርጉም ተጋዳላይ ኣቕርብ ኢሎም አንድሕር ሓቲቶምኻ? ምስሊ ጃሽዋ ክትቅርበሎም ድሕር ከይትብል፥፥ ኣጽነዓዮ ኣቶኪርካ አሞ ብግጥሚ ደሪስካ ጀምር ክትገልጸሉ አንታይ ዕይነት ኣዝዩ ኩቡር ሂያብ ናይ ኤርትራ ፍጥረት ከም ዝንበረ [ዘሎ ዝሎን ዘሎን ሕጂ ውን ን ዘላ ኣለም ኣብ መጻኢ ወለዶ ኤርትራዊ ዝነብርን ዝሁሉን፥፥)

            ናይ በዕልቱ ቤቱ ው.ሮ እልጋነሽ “ቺና” ብምሕዳግ ወይ ምምንዛዕ ጃሽዋ በቲ ኣርሜናዊ ኣጻፍር ኣጋንቲ ጋኒን ከብዳ ከም ዘይተቐርጸን ልባ ከም ዘይተሰብረን ይአምሮኣ ከም ዘይባህረረን ኣን ብ ኣተሓሳስባይ ርግጸኛ ኢየ፥፥ መኽኒያቱ ጃሽዋ ዝመስል ሰብ ፍርቂ መሰንገልካ ተመንጥልካስ፥ ኣሹንካይ ዶ ን ደቓይቕ ወይ ሰዓታት ወይ ሰሙናት ኣዋሕ፥ ን ኣማኢት ዕመታት ሃለዋትካ ዘጥፍ አን ን ሪያለቲ ግምጥልሽ ጌርካ ከም ትሪኦን ትሳተፎን ትምኮሮን ኢዩ ዝገብራካ፥፥ ስቶልክሆልም ሲንዶርም ቀሊል (ሲምፕሊስቲክ) መረዳአታ አስክ ን ግምት ምናልባት፥፥ ኣን ግን ናይ ኣልጋነሽ ኣተሓሳስባ ወይ ተግባራት ከምዚ ምስ በልክዋ፥፥

            እልጋነሽ ኤርትራ ጻማ ወይ ፍረ ሓደ ፍስሃኣ “ጃሽዋ” ጌራ ኢያ ትቖጽራ፥፥ ልዕሊ አቲ በላዕ ሰብ ቶኽላ መሪሕ ኢየ በሃላይ አዛ ኢርትራ ናይ ትማል ናይ ሎሚ ናይ ጽባሕ ን ፍሰሃየ ጃሽዋ የውሃንስ ኣዝያ ከም ትቕርቦን ትብጽሖን ኣማኒት ኢያ፥፥ ልዕሊ ኩሉ ሓሳቡን ፍቕሩን ን ጃሽዋ ኤርትራ ከም ዝኾነት አቲ ቅንኢ ዝነበራ ናይ ሽዑ ኣጸቢቑ ኢዩ ዘዘኻኽራ፥፥ ስለዚ ኻኣ ይኸውን ፍስሃኣን ሕጉስቲ ኾይና፥ ስይጣን ይተሓረድ ይቀረጽ ኢላ ዋል ኣብ ቅድሚ ባዕሉ ንሱ ኢቲ ሸይጣን አንት ኾነ፥ ነታ ኤርትራ ልክዕ ከም ፍቕሪ ውላዱን በዓልቲ ቤቱን ዘፍቀራን ዝመስረታን ኤርትራ፡ ኣልጋነሽ “ቺና” ፍቕሪ ኤርትራ ጃሽዋኣ ኣብ ቃልዕ ትገልጽ ዘላ፥፥ ኢቲ ኣረሜርን ጨካን ሓራዲ ሓላላ ጽባሕ ንግሆ ናብ ጎዱፍ ከም ዝድርበ ርግጸኛ ኢያ፥፥ ጃሽዋ ናታ ኣቦ ኤርትራ ራኢ መጻኢት ኤርትራ ዝነበሮ በ’ንጻሩ ግን ነባሪ ሓቂ ታሪኽ ኤርትራ ከምዝትግበር ጽኑዕ አምነት ስል ዘለዋ ስለ ዝኾነት ኢየ ዝመስለኒ ኣነ፥፥ ብዙሓት ከም ኣልጋነሽ ወን ስኖም ነኺሶም ቃንዛ ተስኪሞም ጼሮም አታ ብርሃን መዕልቲ ኤርትረ ናቶም ኣዝዮም ዝፍስሁ ኣይሰኣኑን ኢዮም፥፥

            አስከ ሕጂ ነቲ ለባም ፋኑስ ወሊዑ መነሰይ መሪሕ ፋኑኤል ከመይ ጌሩ ከም ዘቕረባ ክግንዘብ/ክሰምዖ፥፥ የቕንየለይ ዝሓበርካኒ፥

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          ሰላም መሃንድሳይ,

          ጸኒሔ ገለ ክሰምዕ’የ:: ቁሩብ ደቃይቅ ይገብር ናብቲ ፌሶቡክ ዝብልዎ ገለ ዝንበብ እንተሎ ኢለ አትየ ነይረ:: ሓደ ንፍትሒ ተቃላሳይ በሃሊ እንታይ ክብል አንቢበ “አነ ተቃዋማይ አይኮንኩን አነ ንፍትሒ ተጠባቃይ እየ” ክብል:: ነቲ እቲ ስርዓት ዘይፍትሓዊ ተግባራት ዝገብሮ ስለ ዝተቃወመ’ዶ አይኮነን ንፍትሒ ተጣባቃይ ኮይኑ ዘሎ?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ኤማ

            ተሓዋዊሱዎ ‘ሎ ኢልካ ምሕላፍ ይሓይሽ። ጸጸኒሕካስ ጨው ዝጎደሎ ጽሑፍ ጥራይ ኢኻ ተንብብ።
            ‘ዚ ስርዓት ተሓግሒጉ ምስጠፈአ: ብዙሓት ናይ ርእሲ ሓካይም ከድልዩና ዮም።

      • Hope

        Selam Ustaz Aman:
        U said:
        “ሆፕ ከአ ንተጻረርቲ ሓሳባት ብሓባር ስለዝንሰዖም: ሓንሳብ ምስ ተቃወምቲ ሓንሳብ ከአ ምስ መንግስቲ ከንሳፍፍ ክትሪኦ ናይ ግድን’ዩ::”.

        U R partially correct but let me correct you a bit.

        “Hope is NOT a Politician to take sides with Politicians or Oppositions but will favor and side with any group or entity ,which can ALWAYS guarantee the National Security Interest of Eritrea and Eritreans,hence,his apparent “Flip-flopping” stand”.

        It is a realistic as well as a Pragmatically practical and safe stand.

        I do NOT believe in a “NONE or ALL” approach but in a MIDWAY approach.

        Hint:
        Mixed Economy rather than Central Command or Capitalist Economy
        Social -Progressive Democratic Party rather that Leftist /Liberal or Rightist Democratic Party
        .
        This is NOT equivalent to “Zi Neghese Nighusina Zi bereke tsehaina” stand.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hope,

          I have no doubt that you are good in your professional career for living. Politics is not yours. Because politics demands “principles” you stand and fight for without wobbling. Say for example if you know you are fighting against tyrannical regime you don’t argue in favor of it at any circumstances. A tyrant is a tyrant and must be fought to remove it by all means of struggle. That makes your stand clear like crystal. I am responding you because I want to make these things clear to you. After all you don’t need to be a politician to make your fight against a cruel dictator. Dictators have no any value to be appreciated.

          Regard

          • Hope

            Selam back to You Prof Aman:
            U also said :
            “Dictators have no any value to be appreciated.”.

            I NEVER EVER and will NEVER EVER appreciate Dictators like ours and I proved to you as to how much I despise our Dictator/despot.
            But there are quite ” Good Dictators” like that of Singapore and the UAE,who can unify their nations and peoples by providing Equal Justice to all their citizens and such GOOD Dictators might be essential in nations where the so called Western Democracy is alien.
            Real Democracy for me is beyond elections and is more so when there is Equal Social Justice through Just and Equal Representation and Equitable Distribution of the nation’s Natural Resources..
            Isn’t this fair enough for a lay man?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hope,

            You are not a layman brother. You are an educated professional person. I was just trying to make it clear to you, that if you are against a tyrant regime, you should be against it in all circumstances. And all forces against the tyrants should be your alliance. You don’t attack your alliances. That is the rules of politics and the means to our success in the current struggle. I hope I made it clear to you.

            Regards

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            You said: ” if you are against a tyrant regime, you should be against it in all circumstances.”

            For example, Isaias believes that 2+2=4. We need to oppose this answer?

          • Saleh Johar

            Haha Simon,
            I would think it’s not nice to apply a trail lawyer tactics in such debates. You know you are out of context! 2+2=4. Are you sure Isaias agrees with that? But that would be similar to your argument. Thanks anyway.

          • Hope

            Hahah Simon.
            U R killing me with your one-liner but to the point comments,for the most part.
            Ustaz SGJ’s “rebuttal” of your comment/argument is even more hilarious..
            “You know you are out of context! 2+2=4. Are you sure Isaias agrees with that..?”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            I think we are talking politics and not mathematics. Your question is not a serious question worth of answer. If you have a comment on my comment go ahead you are welcome to engage.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hope,

            I found your comment edited. Here you are back to square one. You are admiring the system of the tyrant. The commanders are the enablers of him and who are protecting the system. You can’t play on both sides of the argument of antagonists ( the tyrant and the opposers of the tyrant). Gosh! You can’t be free from the malignancy of Ambivalence. You have a problem. I think I have to stop it here.

          • Hope

            Selam Aman:
            My comment about appreciating our Commanders is NOT about the Enablers but about the heroes and heroines,who defended our Sovereignty.
            Thought u paid attention on the comment about the Aseb and Zalambessa Fronts and the role of our Formidable EDF and its Commanders.

          • Nitricc

            You are admiring the system of the tyrant.

            Hi Aman-H; sometimes i wonder how you understatement your readers. You are on record admiring Melles Zenawi the brutal dictator in the history of modern African leaders, yet, here you are contradicting yourself like no business. I suggest you should ” free from the malignancy of Ambivalence.” then only then can you give advice to others. The point is, you can’t have the moral high ground to oppose one dictator while you are in love with the worst one.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            You have given us an excellent example of one of the pillars on which STAGNANT SOCIETIES depend (our masters said) and fight back any positive change towards development and stability.

            “Even Professor BerkheteAb Habteselassie and Gen Mesfin Hagos have given him some credit for his alleged organizing mind and staying cool and keeping his Comrades cool and reassured when things get tough….”

            Secondly you said, “I do give him some credit… for apparently re-organizing and contributing in building a FORMIDABLE Liberation Front”.

            What you claim is a credit can do it a kid. Isaias stole a formidable liberation front. Isaias was working in the field to be a dictator not to liberate Eritrea and her people. Hitler worked hard for Germany besides he destroyed Germany and Europe. He was a dictator. Though Robert Mugabe led Zimbabwe to independence; however, he ended up as a dictator. Your excuse is lame.

            Al-Arabi

  • Brhan

    Thank you Saleh…well said!!

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlan Al-Ustaz Saleh,

    It is really a good video. However, when a person holds a second nationality, he should respect the law and people of his second nationality. In Eritrea, the non-natives – at their head Isaias – are abusing pure Eritreans. As you know, the number of these non-naves is not small and created unrest in Eritrea for decades. I guess it is an injustice to call both sides fascists. I understand you don’t mean it, however, those who should be called fascists are the non-natives. The non-natives didn’t stop abusing natives for a long time, moreover, they wish to annex Eritrea to their homeland. How will we tame them is a big question.

    I believe pure Eritreans will not deny them citizenship, but they should respect rights of Eritreans and should be loyal to Eritrea and her people.

    Al-Arabi

    • Thomas

      Hi Hameed,

      Just to correct you, relatively speaking only the Nara tribes are the natives of Eritrea. This is factual. If anything look at why Sudan is called Sudan. Sudan means Black. The Sudanese choose a black color on their flag to represent this history. That is why the Nara tribe in relation to the Sudanese original tribe were in the area. Also remember, there was no so called Eritrea or Sudan at that time. Only Black people were around. The more dark black you are the more you are entitled to say I am not a hybrid of the browns or the whites:) From the conversation we have here, you sound like your ancestors crossed the Red Sea from Yeman to get to Eritrea and they intermarried with the Naras’ and Sudanese to bring you to this world:) I believe I might be the result of the same process to:)

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Thomas,

        The Nara and Kunama are from Al-Saltana Al-Zarqa (the Black Sultanate). They are from South-Sudan, Central Africa, Uganda, etc. They are in the middle of East Africans and don’t have a direct extension to their natives. This proves they are immigrants to Eritrea.

        Al-Arabi

        • Thomas

          Hi Hameed,

          I must tell you that I took Eritrean history course back in the days. The only native Eritreans that the text book referred is the Nara and yes the Kunama people also. That means me and you are just the result of the intermerriage between the Nara/Kunama and the late comers (may be brown people). It is funny that everyone wanted to say I am the native one, but NO one has the facts to prove:)

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            Not sure if you are talking the same history class I took at UOA. According to (Higdef) history book, Nara and Kunama belong to Nilotic group and their origin is upper Nile.

            I don’t know about you, but I am as native as xuruy Mai, Lol!

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            “Tihisho di’a keble deliye emo gn kulu ba’elika wesidkayo”. Well, I have to admit may I was not getting it but I remember getting a “B” in that class though most of my friends said they got “A” in the class. Who taught you? The priest/Padre guy? hahahaha

          • Paulos

            Selam Thomas,

            To get a B average in history class is impressive for it is a tough course. I remember getting a D in a retake exam for I kept confusing Charles I with Charles V and Philip I with Philip II 😂.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            That is funny. I had a similar problem with the Greek-named kings like Zoscales:-)

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            I agree. I remember Zoscales, Ezana and Saizana whose native name is Abraha and Atsbaha respectively. Hope you will educate us someday with your video lectures why they opted to have Latin or Greek names.

            In the future history courses on Eritrea, will make sure my son won’t confuse Saleh Johar with Saleh Yonuis so that he gets an A as opposed to his father who got stuck with a D.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            A person who seems a voracious reader with all round knowledge, I don’t believe you, when you say you got a “D” grade in history. I believe history is relatively easier than sciences for which you hold your PHD in biochemistry.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            The graffiti in the campus washrooms read, “Friends do not let friends major in Arts.” And I took that to heart and never studied for the exams when I took history for an elective and as we used to say it back in the days, ስሒነያ!

            History is not easy, at least for me it was never easy. In later years however, I took it serious not so much to jack up GPA but one certainly can not understand the present or the future if one is ignorant about the past.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Psulos,

            I didn’t take history in college. I took it up to high school only. In my early age, at high school, I had a photographic memory. If I read the pages twice, I could spit it out as is. Therefore, I had no problem in getting good grade in history or generally in social studies. History is a fascinating subject, though I made my mind early on to major on chemistry – the subject still I love.

          • Thomas

            Hi Paulos,

            You know sometimes it is not whether the class you are taking is easy or difficult, it is whether the instructor teaching the class is generous grader or tough grader. I had an Eritrean teacher who just moved home from Germany. She was an easy grader. The other history teacher (Father/Padre/brother, but I forgot his name now) was someone who taught at Asmara for a long time. You have to be really good to earn a “C” grade in his class. So, I just got lucky. I was never a smart, but average student there. Man – I have been following here at Awate, you really have what it takes for Ph.D. and more. I can tell you are a senior profession at some prestigious university. If that is not the case, these universities cannot locate where you are and did not come across to learn your materials.

          • Paulos

            Selam Thomas,

            Thank you for those kind words. I agree with you when you said that grading could as well be subjective. Perhaps, standardized exams could potentially locate the student’s competence but again other compounding issues could factor in as in psychological and social issues where they could compromise the student’s performance at that particular day or throughout the academic year.

            That said however, the objectives of higher learning institutions is to train the student how to think critically where the rest is cramming information into his or her head which may not be relevant in the real world. Here is one vital issue though: Whether one is a graduate or not, it is imperative that one stays informed about the world around him or her for a refined information is the key for one’s survival in this ever growing complex world. About anything and everything for there is nothing absolutely nothing the human mind can not comprehend.

          • Thomas

            Thanks, Paul. I agree that college professors are there not to babysit the students but guide the student to think critically and study the given class materials on their own. However, you know there is always that hint to prepare for an exam. Sometimes, the so called hint could come as an exam by itself. Also, some instructors would tend to bring very difficult challenging questions to the exam and others write easy/”obvious to the students” questions. Just remember, we still are talking about history class teachings:) All you need is memorization – there is derivation, integration, volume in more than 2 spaces (3 dimension or more),research based thought processing, mathematical analysis ……………………

          • Hope

            Dottore :
            Forgive my positive curiosity .
            Do I know u?
            Sounds like it.
            Ethiopian Med School and US Grad Or USA grad only ?
            If the former ,prob I know u.
            MD PHD?
            A Hem-Oncologist in the Tri-State area(VA-DC-MD)??
            I know only 2-3 Ethiopian/Eritreans with MD PHDs.

            I know personally Prof Amanuel Hidrat and his detailed political and professional background since his Bahirdar Poly Tech /College years!

            No need to answer if not comfortable to do so!

            Bottom line:

            U r a rare Gem along with the likes of Prof Aman Hidrat,Hailat(both hailats),the Hashelas ,the Mahmoud’s ,the Ghetebs the Semeres,The Kokhobs and SAAYs,etc …included.

            Thanks to the Awate Univ for “EXPOSING “ you all and your talents.
            Sad that this intellect is not being utilized effectively for Eritrea’s best interest…

            But IA won’t like you,who “sarcastically” or is it “ sadistically”,said that Eritrea’s Human Resources is the BEST of its resources to cover up his evil agenda against those same Eritrea’s Gems (during his SAWA interview)!

            This is same guy,who decimated Eritrea’s Elite on a broad day light!

          • Ya kuburrr ኩቡርርር ብሮ ፕራዘ ር ፈሶር ተስፋ፥

            ሐንቅል ሕንቅሊተይ
            ዓሻ ኢየ ሞ ጥዒሙኒ
            ስለ ዝኸፍኦ ዘመደይ አዛ ዝተባህለት ከተረዳኣኒ
            አወ ክትረድኣኒ ከም ዛ ዝበላ ‘ስከ በለኒ
            ከምዚ፥

            “ኩሉ ብምግምጥልሽ ስለዝኾነኒ

            ንግዜኡ ግን

            ን ሆፕ ዶ ክሓቶ እንተሰመዓኒ”

            ኣዝግነኒ!

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • Nitricc

            To get a B average in history class is impressive for it is a tough course.

            Hahahaha P; really? At no university History should be taught the end of story. It should be a hobby for people to engage with in their spare times. if you think about it, the person who is teaching the toothless history did nothing but read it; why can’t anyone do that?

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            That is so cruel. Please go easy on the Arts and Humanities for they are equally if not exceed their imperatives of our understanding the world around us in comparison to the other bodies of knowledge.

            This summer has been great to me for I did something that made me proud of myself. I finished reading a 933 pages history book titled, “These Truths….A History of the United States.” It was written by an incredibly brilliant Harvard trained historian named Jill Lepore. The book was on New York Times best seller list for a month. It was on a best seller list for a reason you and I fail not only to understand but terribly miss the essence of history.

            She doesn’t tell you what events happened in a certain year if that is your understand of history but she asks questions why those events happened in that particular year. For instance, to understand Trump of 2016, she takes you back to Andrew Jackson of the 1820s where the reader is left in awe when the reader sees the connection in a span of one hundred years.

            Those who don’t remember the past, Santayana once famously said, are condemned to repeat it. When he said remember, he didn’t mean those who see history lightly or take it for a hobby but those who see it as an archeology of events and human activities.

          • Peace!

            Hi Paulosay,

            Good for you, not sure though what do you mean by Harvard Trained? I read “A People’s History of the United States” by Howard Zinn. Good book and courageous writer!

            Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            Well, I didn’t mean to give her more credence when I said, Harvard trained, it was just figurative so speak. The reason I found her so unique is that, it doesn’t feel like an academic take where the prose is so lucid and the reader gets lost in a semblance of a page-turner novel.

            I had heard of Zinn’s book as in since forever but never got around it but I bet my Naqfa, he can not beat Lepore.

          • Nitricc

            Hey P; I am not trying mean or disrespectful. Simply I am stating the way I see and feel. If I had a child and say to me that he or she going to study history at collage or University level then I am welling to give her or him for adoption. I mean it is not only a waste of time and resources but a waste of human intelligence and creativity. Sure, as society people need to know history and must be informed about their history but not by learning it in the Universities or collages but by reading it their own. I don’t mean to brag but I can go knack to knack to full dexterity when it comes to philosophy. I never had a single class in philosophy but I have enormous interest and I read own my own. So, that is what I mean and that where I was getting at. Never to disrespect anyone or to make them feel less.

          • Nitricc,

            Even a tick
            very sick
            on a blind man’s
            walking stick
            managed to jump
            the ramp
            over the seeing eye dog named rick
            gave up on a snack
            acquired from the classroom knowledge
            not to lick and attack
            the rack
            what in the hell is
            “…go knack knack”
            yap definitely autistic
            said the educated tick

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc,

            Are you autistic? Not artistic if there is such a word. Autistic. All you are doing is reading history? You would prescribe a no history teaching university of the future? What if it was hisTORY hisSTORY HissSTory his story. Who else you protozoa? Your god hiStOry. I wander now if your autism will pick up the intended message. Keep dividing into two cells though you will forever remain single celled. Read your single celled hiStoRy, compliments of iSEM.

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            I can tell you probably were one of those students who used to study at the library (2nd or 3rd floor) or at room 117 day and night. Unfortunately, I was one of those who used to spend lots of their time at Love Square/around the women’s dorm all day. You could ask me which women was wearing what outfit in a certain, I would be happy to tell you that. The sad thing I never had to date any of those:) You know who I am inviting by confessing this, right?

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            hahah….The Library was a bit warm for studying I usually used to go for raffle to keep the math book overnight. As for dating, the first year I was too nervous of Christmas graduation then I was pretty much relaxed. Man! The Amiches were linji dud……my mother was like peace are you coming tonight or studying at your friends house. Biniam Zula @Picadilly, Kassay Berhe at Mocambo……. ata wedi kabza serah ketesgugeni eka bye

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Yah, Peace. He asked for your mercy – to leave him alone:)

          • Nitricc

            The sad thing I never had to date any of those

            Hi Thomas-D; Dongola. At least you learn from your failures and that is commendable quality. Now I know why you perfectly located yourself in the town of ugly looking women. I have never seen so many 20 by 20 in one city. I see why you live there. I hope you able to land a couple Fisto.

          • Thomas

            Selam Nitricc,

            Hahaha – I invited you into this. I knew you would like to discuss such.

            Hi Peace,

            I already told I was inviting this headless “hemema”. Do you have a “filit: or more of the Ajax or some other cheap soap? We will want the strong one this time, do you still have them?

          • Paulos

            Selam Thomas,

            Do you remember መገዲ ባቡር ሳምና? That thing was cheap but could rip off stubborn ተጎሮ I had on my legs for years on 😂.

          • Thomas

            Selam Paulos,

            Hahahaha – thanks for reminding of that to:_ Yes, “megedi babur” as its name referred looked like megedi babur only difference was “megedi babur” an orange in color:) Yes, after playing too much soccer on the dusty soccer field people would go for anything to clean themselves. Those Ajax and “megedi babur” were meant to wash heavy duty dirt stuff. The tumor/bulged with cracks were smoothed out by power of “megedi babur” Those were times when men was a men:)

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,

            Do you also remember ሳሙና ዓደን? It was square in shape, thin in the middle going thicker and thicker to the periphery. After rubbing few clothes, it started thinning in the middle giving up quickly to a hole.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Yea I do. I think the shape was smart in the sense that it could be convenient to handle it. My fav was ኦሞ for it came with a surprise paraphernalia inside the plastic bag. It was a smart business plan for people used to buy it particularly to find something a surprise in it. Forgot the brand name though.

          • Haile S.

            Paul,

            I see what you are thinking about. I can’t remember the name too, but it was im a green hard-paper box. We use to squeeze the sides to make sure they contain those things.
            Talking about strong soap and ቶጎሮ, there were soaps that were considered to be effective against ዓበቕ (scabies). ቶጎሮ is the perfect & ideal place for scabies to infest & develop. This easily avoidable (through hygiene) parasitic disease still exists in Eritrea and other ‘not’-developing countries.

          • Selamat Haile S.,

            Lux was the brand. Lux bar of soap. It is almost like Irish spring scented soap. Or you are talking about an entirely different consumer’s product.

            In case you are wondering: I am taking a long break from Matlab, python and blender…. yeah I am feeling a bit self conscious ….

            JASHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Haile S.

            Selam tSAtSE,

            These were UFO languages for us (at least for me) in the life sciences till yesterday, but now are hovering closer and closer over us through digitalization, pattern recognition, IA… ወዘተረፈ… Still I am far from understanding them. I need a second life to do that :-).

          • Peace!

            Hi Paulosay,

            ደሓን እዩሞ ነይሩ መብረድ ኣይተቕየረን እምበር ቫዝሊን ብርትዕ እንተይሉ ግሮሶ ምተኣዘዘልካ ነይሩ

            Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            You’re killing me. That is so funny. ናብ መብረድ ተቐይሩ ኔሩ’ምበር፣ ኣደይ ንመስሓል ካራ ክትጥቀመሉ ጀሚራ ኔሪ።

          • ቶማስ፡

            አቶም ሃመማን ድ ዱዕን ሓሰኻን ጺንጺያን ሳሬትን ጻጸን አንታይ ገበሩኻ ብፍሊት ተዋጥጠሎም ተፋራርሖም፥፥ ኣይምልከቱኻን ንዓኻ፥፥ ንሳቶም ናይ ገዛአ ር አሶም ኢኮሎጂ ኣለዎም፥፥ ጉዳይካ ምስ ሰብ ከማኻ ኢዩ፥፥

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ቶማስ

            ተማሃሮ ናብቲ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ክኣቱ ከለዉ ከመይ ይቐንእ ኔረ ይመስለካ።
            ኤእ ተዘይነፊዕካ ንሱ ዩ ትርፉ።

            “I was one of those who used to spend lots of their time at Love Square/around the women’s dorm all day.”
            ትርጉም ናይ ማሕበራዊ ናብራ ንሱ ዩ። መጽሓፍ ጥራይ ምብላዕ ኣይኮነን።

            ካብ ሸልደን የድሕንካ (The Bing Bang Theory ማለተይ ‘ዩ)

          • Thomas

            Selam Mehends,

            Thank you very much for making me smile. E’we kab Sheldon Cooper ci yi’hash nere! Anes lomi ainey berhe enda derefku’ka tsibuk yiri’e nere:) Kab nai facebook c’eli bi’akalen bkidmey yeman tsigam yi’bla neren:) Aye’ba kitsibika znebra minada gelienko ab alem mulu’e delika zrkeba ai’meslenin:) hahaha

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ቶማስ

            እንቋዕ በል ከም’ዝኸማይ ኣብ ሃይስኩል ኣይጀመርካዮ።
            ከምኡ ክገብር ኳ ‘የ ዘርሞ-ዘርሞ ዝተረፍኩ።

            ግን: ‘ቲ ጽቡቕ ተዘክሮ ደጋጊምካ ካብቲ ዘቐመጥካዮ ቆፎ መመዚዝካ ከተንብቦ ከለኻ ኣነ ተራፒ ‘የ ዝብሎ።
            ማለተይሲ ብፍላይ ናትካ መኽሰብ ምበር ክክሳራ ኣይቆጽሮን

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            On another note, that history class looked like Geograpy to me. I do not know if you have used the text book or the notes given by the instructor in class, but that course looked to me more of Geography of Eritrea class than history. I remember we making jokes on the names of villages in Eritrea. How come they did not choose nice names when naming the village. Some of those I remember were:

            1) Adi Abu’ur
            2) Adi Begie

            3) Adi Mongedti
            4) Adi Gebray

            5) Adi Anisti
            6) Adi Ke
            7) May derho
            8) Adi Habesha or Hawesha:)

            9) more………………………

          • Hope

            Hahah Tom:
            Prob that was Revd Fr Teweldemedhin/(Birhan?).
            Not surprised …
            Did not he mention Adi Quentsi,Digsa Abay…TsenAA Deghle/Adi ChinAy..etc..?
            Do not read me wrong as he is a very brilliant and Intelligent Intellectual…but…I might know him well.

          • Thomas

            Hi Hope,

            I think you want to look liberal and against anything that has to do with awraja, ethnic, religion and other things that has to do with identity. I know you talk about you being from the Bilen group. Most people I have known from the Bilen tribe that I have know are decent, but I know some from the Bilen who are very racist. I am afraid you might be one of those who think that they are all of that and special (Seb beleni Bilenetai” group. I am sure only ignorant people think and talk that way. I have seen racist people and it does take much to identify them.

            On the other stuff, our tigrigna better talks about kinds of people like. “Teba’e Aimote Ferah Aimote Langa Langa mote”. You are the most difficult people — Flip flapping is trademark.

          • Hope

            Hahah Tommy:
            I got you and made you to be exposed…with your pants down.
            kabzom haika dikha?.
            So cheap…

          • Thomas

            Hi Hope,

            Get a life man! Zei’tribih gohef e’ka”. Eritrea needs to be freed from your type, tes’tas denkoro!

          • Thomas

            Selam Hope,

            Just GIGO. Ignorant as always continue with your zeraf style bluff!

          • Saleh Johar

            Hello Thomas,
            Maybe your blood line came centuries after that and mingled, maybe it was there since 5000 years belonging a different race that is now forgotten!

            What happened ions ago is valid only in anthropological studies and heritage, stories and folklores to tell, etc. Other than that, it has no relevance in our present situation. I can claim Alexander the great was my ancestor, or an ancient Greek god 🙂 No one can prove or disprove that. It’s mythology, folklore and other superstitions in one. Ancestry is not a straight line and one citizens line of ancestry is not identical to another–unless we are talking about three generations at most. That is because as a primitive society, we do not have records or any other references but tales based on individual ego and what makes them feel proud by claiming this or that ancestry. Who know if me and you do not meet a few generations back? Nothing. Maybe we are far apart, maybe we are not.

            The only credible rseult is what the genes say–but that splits you into percentages of ancestry you never heard of. For instance, 13% Bantu, 20% middle eastern (whatever that represents from the large swath of regions) and maybe a certain percentage European, Nioletic, east African races, etc. In short, our genes do not talk to our present regions, races or nation state political affiliations. In much shorter way, they have no significant impact on our present status since races intermingle, people intermarry, they move or are deported, they travel and assimilate in the middle of other races, etc. Our present is Eritrean and that is where we should focus as a nation and keep our present racial affiliation if we wish to. But that should not make us feel entitled to a certain stature. I think.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            My daughter has tested her ancestory DNA test few years ago. She found it 51% Sub-Saharan and 49% Caucasian. To debate on nativism – Dekebat and non-dekebat senseless and meaningless in our era. If I am a citizen of US after 5 years since I migrate to US, and I am wedebat with all the rights the US citizens have, the same should be true with the all Eritreans born in Eritrea and those who migrated and settled in Eritrea for considerable years. There is no pure blood from one ancestory.

        • Selamat Hamid Al-Arabi,

          ” Why did Britain do so, she knows the reason?” You have also mentioned “Al-Sultana Al Zarqa” (Al Aswedd leads me to believe Zarqa is another word in Arabic for black),

          Question: Are you implying Britain’s motive is to divide and rule a great kingdom named Sudan? Interesting. Britain does still rule it’s common wealth nations which I think included the Sudan (but Sudan is seldom vivid as a common wealth nation’s member.)

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan GitSAtSE,

            I don’t know the reason as I mentioned in my previous comment. However, take as an example, Egypt and the Arab World.

            Al-Arabi

          • መርሓባ ሓሚድ ኣል-ዓረቢ፡

            አታ “ነብስኻ ምኽባር ቅድሚ ኩሉ ዝሰራዕካያ” ዓንተቦይ መልስኻ ትርደኣኒ ኢያ፥፥ ቅብልቲ ከኣ ኢያ፥፥

            ኣብዚኣ ሒዘካ ከለኹ ክሓተካ ምስ አዝ ናይ ብሪቴን ትተኣሳሰር፥፥
            ምስ ብርሃን ክትመላለስ ኮለኻ፥ ንቋንቃ አንግሊዝኛ ከም ኦፊሻል ቋንቃ ኤርትራ ኣንጻር ዛ ብሪቴን ን ኣል ሱልታና ኣል ዛርቓ ፋሕ ዘበለት ብሪቴን ዝብልካ ክትወሓጠለይ ኣይከኣለትን፥፥
            ኢቲ ታሪኽ ድዩ ኣመና ዘቖንዙ ኮይን አንካብ ህልው ወይ መጻኢ ኩነታት? ማለተይ ብሪቴን ናይ ሎሚ ከም ናይ ትንቲ ወይ ዘመናት ዝሓለፈ ታሪኻ ኣዝያ ትሓይሽ ወይ ተደላይት ጌርካ ትርኽባ ኣሎኻ ማለት ዲዩ?

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Hameed,

      What is the role of the ‘purest’ Sudanese such as you in this matter?

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Kaleab,

        It is amazing to observe a refugee intends to sale a nation and perform mass annihilation of natives. The issue has become ክንዲ ዘኾለስኩ እደይ ተነኸስኩ:: Correct your conduct and behave like a civilized human being to live among Eritreans. You should stop your mess with Eritrea and Eritreans. Enough is enough!

        Al-Arabi

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Hameed,

          Says who? A Sudanese nomad.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            At the end of the day, you will evaporate. The Eritrean people are civilized; endear human beings, do not terrorize children, women, and aged people. They abide by the law even in small issues. They don’t imprison, assassinate, and torture outside the law. Indeed, they are very respected people. I wonder from where did these crude creatures come to Eritrea.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Assassination and terrorism are your trademark.
            Delusion is your daily diet.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            Your commodity has no market.
            You are out of the market.
            You are dead.

            Al-Arabi

          • Hope

            Ya Arabi and Simon:
            Knock it off guys!
            Enda Siwwa style debate amsilkuma!
            Sounds like you guys could have knocked down each other with Testa De Gallina and throw beer bottles at each other like it used to happen in Italy and even now in Tel Aviv Bars by Eritrean Refugees!
            Shane on you!
            And the selectively picky Mod is shying away!
            Funny.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            You are knocked byምልኽልኽ full of ስዋ a long time ago and at present you are jumping from corner to corner.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hope,

            Look at the beginning of the Arabic language thread. This hopeless character started attacking the entire Tigrinya speaking community. If he can’t fight Isaias he needs to shut up.

            As the saying goes, put up or shut up.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            Remember well your attack – day in and day out – Islam and Muslims.

            I don’t attack pure and civilized highlanders. I attack only crude intruders. Eritreans couldn’t bear a Medieval Age raw guy. Behave as a human being to live in Eritrea.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            On this website I did not attack any group.

            Bring evidence to back up your claim.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            The pure, well polished and law abiding highlanders are not under your musty gown to implicate them in your barbaric ploys.

            Al-Arabi

          • Hope

            Selam Simon:
            Ignore.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Cheers Hope.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            Britons say, “Birds with same feathers fly together.” الطيور على اشكالها تقع

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Whoever thinks people like you can bring democracy to Eritrea are daydreaming. You are a fraud.

            Whichever way one looks, Eritrea doomed.

    • cool

      hi
      a person called AL-Arabi claims to be a native eritrean, pure irony !

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Cool,

        Respecting the land and people living in this country called Eritrea makes you pure, but ኣፋ ምሳይ ልባ ምስ ደበሳይ double stand is not accepted.

        Al-Arabi

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam Saleh G.,

    A very good article overall [minus the Trump reference].

    • Hayya sostenga ñña kifleTorr
      Gobo AAgamaet

      CHama ykhunn TTiQaa winna
      Ab TTrzi AAgamet

      Prime is twenty three Ahhya sosteññ kifle TOR serawitt
      b Moriss code ateHalaliffu
      keItu ishetuu
      lomi doH wedi AAffa kwinennn
      kifet Hazo Eisran kiltenn
      SelTTinnn Wedi Sherifo AytiAAshuu… AAgamet Tedegmetttt

      JOSHUA!

      tSAtSE

  • Al NuuQTTA waHid waKhamseen,

    Majority stake then to the parallel Habateinn wuKhamseennnn..

    Kemm hubobulla Nuss AAsherra Abu Khamsa… Limazzzza?

    JOSHUA!

    tSAtSE

  • Al ShariEait Al TeQlidyat… t qlidaleh,

    Handessa

    JOSHUA!

    tSAtSE

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selam Awate,
    Sorry, this has nothing to do with this article but I just want to say something about the fund raising.
    I will pledge 30% of each $100 pledge’s from some of you. My limit is $300, so 10 people.
    This pledge will expire in 36 hrs.
    Any taker?

    • Handessa MiEballe maEbell Al Muhandiss,

      wa Winuu al baQui… Shuff di Al Hissabb meAA al kitabb kethabba.

      Niether is al Khamsinn a whirple winds nor is the Nile a denial in Africa.

      JOSHUA! ya QaHua…. X mush AAshera.

      JOSHUA!

      tSAtSE