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Afwerki and Al-Bashir: Unholy Matrimony

Port Sudan: 27 November 2013

In a ceremony dubbed as one of the most romantic weddings of the year, Eritrea’s Afewerki and Sudan’s Al-Bashir at last exchanged wedding vows in an outdoor ceremony at the gardens of Port Sudan trade center. The wedding was officiated by the highest spiritual guides in both countries, the couple themselves.

The on and off romantic relationship between the couple, particularly after Afwerki’s loss of his long-time partner, King Of Kings, Brother Leader, Colonel, Shaikh of…(title too long, please turn over to next page for full list) Muammar Gaddafi, has been widely speculated for some time now. Afwerki is said to have suffered immensely after the loss of Gaddafi, causing him to seek medical assistance in Qatar several times. Close associates of Afwerki, who wish to remain anonymous, or their heads will be chopped off, reported that the news of Afwerki’s near death last year was actually due to excessive drinking and drug usage which got worse after Gaddafi’s brutal death.

Asked about his thoughts, the Amir of Qatar, the match maker who actually convinced the couple to make their relationship formal, said “Afwerki was hesitant at the beginning, he was unable to let go of Gaddafi’s memory, but it was time to move on. Particularly after his continuously deteriorating health, he needed some romance in his life”

Afwerki decided to make the surprise proposal last Sunday, when he drove with his convoy unannounced to Port Sudan two nights ahead of the annual “Shopping Exhibition”. When Al-Bashir arrived at Port Sudan as scheduled the next day, unaware that Afeworki was already there, he was overwhelmingly surprised to be received by Afwerki at the city’s main bus terminal. Surrounded by admirers and facing Al-Bashir, Afwerki then pulled up his jelabya to reveal his knees, proceeded to show his flexibility by sitting down in a squatting position and commenced breathing through his knees. At that moment, in a choreographed manner, a modified version of Stings’ hit song “Every breath I take, I want it to be with you” blasted through the loud speakers and inhabitants of the city lined up with flowers. Al-Bashir emotionally raised his cane with excitement and the crowd started cheering and ululating.

Afwerki was said to have personally made all the preparations to impress Al-Bashir. The couple wore their trade mark classic costumes, designed by the famous Eritrean tailor and fashionista, Wedi Qedad Sire. The couple’s wedding couch was decorated and adorned with elegant golden frames, the aisles were showered with pop-corn and flower petals. The table was a borrowed vintage from Haile Selassie era, it was given as a present to the famous socialite known as Asmara Rose, who flew from USA at Afwerki’s request to host the evening and entertain the guests. The ring bearer was a young refugee advocate, iBad Girl, who carried a pearl and gold satin pillow with the Gaddafi’s Green Book on it.

Classic Sudanese songs such as “whop 3aleya ya yuma” and “ya Hlelu algemer ja” were played as the couple walked the isle, and later on danced to Afwerki’s favorite song, Abrar’s “Kemzi’ elkas nabra aykonen”, a song Afwerki usually sings when he is intoxicated.

Isu_Bashir_Wedding_PicturesThe ceremony was attended by close family members, friends, dignitaries and business tycoons. Immediately following the ceremony, the couple was honored at a reception hosted by the CEO of HOT Pty Ltd, a company specialising in Human & Organ Trafficking. They have also used the opportunity to strengthen bilateral relations and agreed on future smuggling plans and expanding the organ trade.

The ceremony however came to an abrupt end due to a security breach, when an individual identified as Sabaah entered the venue holding an alarm clock which the security personnel mistook for a bomb.

The wedding was broadcast live in both countries national television. For more wedding pictures, please check hijis-yelenalkin.com

Reporting for shgurti.com, Ahmed A. Abdelrehim

aaabdelrehim@hotmail.com

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  • Eyob Medhane

    Hey Sal,

    Please where are you?

    Check this out…

    Speaking of Sudan and its visiting neighbors, what is with the Sudanese media sounding like the Derg/ESEPA party organ ‘Serto Ader’ Newspaper, when it reported some leader from Eastern communist block was visiting?

    Please read this news? article? report? love letter?Cheesy poem? Well, you figure it out…

    http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/article.html?rsnpaid=1145

    Well, please compare this professional way of reporting of the same item…

    http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article49020

    The second news item also has lots of information and ‘food for thought’ kind of ‘news’. It informed its readers that Isu Chisu has been there on Saturday, an information, which would leave its readers wondering if there is any connection between the leaders back to back visit. It informs the readers that Sudan now will start to get electricity from Ethiopia starting on Wendsday, after the inaguration of the power connection in Gedarif and etc…And NO “wub aynama” singing praise at all for any of the leaders. Good for Sudan Tribune…

    • Araya

      I get irritated whenever I see a post by Eyob. He is a boring and outdated dude.

      • belai

        We can not have enough of Eyob Medhane Araya.
        By the way,Awate.com is about different people and dfferent ideas.what is iritating you is not in Eyob’s comment but in your mind Araya.

    • Kaddis

      Did Hailemariam drive all the way like Isu? Some are joking he drove because his planes are in Saudi. Check out Kabila’s ride to DRC’s north

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8up_t3caU

  • Thomas

    Sibhat Efrem’s has a neck name now and that is “Sibhat GOLFO”. Reason for the nick as he hid his head under his GOLFO. Listen to how some guy in Sweden described “Sibhat Golfo” Follow the link below:

    http://www.eritreadaily.net/News2013/article201312021.htm

    • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

      Sbhat Efrem is Leba – This TeyNaN person he took the credit of hundreds of MeraHti Ganta and HayLi also all martyred some are alive but disabled. The entire war 1977 – 1988 was done by these heroes they never credited for their heroic work. I hope he will be demoted to zero when his group are eradicated and trashed to ArbeRebuE landfill. He is submissive to Esayas and one time esayas called him AfaF(filthy and gullible person)

  • Papillon
    • Ermias

      Globaltimes describes the Eritrean regime perfectly: “…an increasingly paranoid and repressive regime.”

      • Papillon

        Sadly enough, isaias’ lackeys take it for a badge of honour where the world is desensitized as the rightly description has become run of the mill if you will.

    • Nitricc

      I don’t who is more stupid?
      The government who letting this people out knowing well ain’t coming back
      Or the escape who escape out of all this places to Kenya?
      I say the dummy who escap to Kenya.
      The other day some bady was saying Eritrean pilots defected to Soudi Arebia
      It is funny how do you defect to Soudi Arebia? The soudies are cleaning the house.
      If the system is that bad, why not stay home and fight the system right? Trust me, I fighting you to death before I escap to Kenya or Soudi Arebia.
      You only have one life to live. WT…
      I don’t get.

      • Papillon

        Nitrice,

        Don’t you get it? The motto is anywhere but Eritrea.

      • Araya

        Nitric, worst, there are Eritreans who defect to Ethiopia. Most of them I talked to, they regret it, to no end. The Tigryans lowered the boom; they put the Eritrean defectors in their place. The refuges wrote an apology to the Tigryan governor. You talk about miscarriage of justice. But, hey, they deserve it.

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          I dont know how the living standard in eritrea but if you compare the avarage ethiopian life then the eri refugees do live quite good in ethiopia. Remember if they dont have to wait for the western country to move them to their lands then all of them are free to go and joine any eritrean or ethiopian family who lends hand. And this my friend shows ethiopia is home for eritreans. The only problem is you can not be boistrous about pfdj. People hate the whole saga of pfdj both past and present.

          • Ahmed

            What happend with 70 000 eritreans WHO got kicked out from ethiopia?

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          They came back home!

  • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

    Why some commentators insult other commentators when they read disagreement respond toward their stance. Including why Awate team let them to insult. Insult is wrong because it sends wrong message outside the mainpoint and scary too > disappoints these good people. I disagree with Tamrat Tamrat point though his comment is proper, rather than to respond him EnKan HaBan that is wrong to call him Rat. Backward and it is war like the 1998 – 2000.

    • L.T

      TiEtiE,Now let us join our Issu and Mulu in singing our traditional”N DorHo m mashela La Hammasien b Mela”

      • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

        EntaY MaletKa Eyu. AyBerHaLeYn. please describe it a little – give me some hint then I will respond you.

      • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

        L.T
        > You are violating the rule saying MeSilKa EnTay AmTsaEka. You need to describe your MsLa because MsLa is subjective to different interpretation even to hundreds of meanings – it depend on experience, self perception so I need your help I understand it.

        • L.T

          TieTiE;
          Msla Shaleka Alula Engda of Abi Adi Tenbien ieyu.I don’t quite know what “Msla” to use when referring to a “Derho msMashala-the Hammassien(Eritrawiyan)” ,perhaps,or the ears.Eritreawiyan’s poor,inadequateb Tigria language!Alula Engda was the name of the former,Aba Nega,that of latter.You liked them both but each in differnet way.”Ni Hammassien b mela n Derho b Mashela”translate to something inside Eritrea Alula had come to have lunch “Derho”with Rasi Weldemicheal Kentiba Solomon of Hazega and Rasi W.Micheal at last falls asleep.Then images.When W.Micheal awakens he forgets all that was unpleasant,However his song was”Anes maye setiee Yihadr,telam mahla(Alula) gn NyHadr”Not many years later Alula killed by his own brother Rasi Hagos of Aduwa”Read book by Fitetwerari Micheal Hassema Racka”Zanta Ertra” Oslo 1986.
          “K 1000 Tigrai Amhara 1 Abera”Dagmawi Menelik

          “Eritrawi bHon Yshalgn Neber”Shaleka or Rasi Mesfin Shleshi

          “Kab Millions Metshaf ms Isaias Hanti Saet”Meles Zenawi.

          • Rahwa G

            Selam L.T.
            You reminded me of two teen agers fighting. One fallen down on the ground and the second was punching the other sitting on his belly and grabbing his throat. But still the one on the ground didn’t stop insulting. That was what happened 130 years ago and have been continuing the same way even in our time. Insult is typical character of you guys.

            By the way Ra’esi Hagos was not from Adwa, he was from Temben and governor of Shire. Should I remember you that he was the great -grand-father of your current president?

  • analyst

    What’s with these people posting stupid youtube videos?????

    Do they think that’s a substitute for dialogue?

    They should be banned!

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      You dont have to click every link to go to the NeXT Message. You just keep on rolling.

  • haile

    ሰላማት ሜሮን፡

    መቸም እቲ ደለይቲ ሕማቕ ኤርትራ’ዮም ዝበልካና፡ ከም ከንቱ ብድዔ ሸለል ክንብሎ ኢና። እቲ ምንታይ’ሲ፡ ደገፍቲ መንግስቱ ሃይለማርያም’ውን፡ ፍትሓዊ መሰል ዝሓተተ ኤርትራዊ፡ “ጸረ-ህዝብ” ብምባል ዝተበደዓሉ እዋን’ውን ስለ ዘሕለፍና።

    እንተኾነ ግን፡ ህድእ ኢልካ’ስኪ እዛ ትስዕብ ሕቶ መልሽ።

    ኣብ ሓጎስካ ዘይደበለ ዶ’ስ፡ ዋላ ኣብ ጥፍኣትካ ዝተኸወለ’ዩ ደላይ ሕማቕካ? ንክትምልሽ ክሰልጠካ መታን፡ እስኪ እዛ ትስዕብ ቃል ኣቦና መምህር ወልደኣብ ወልደማርያም፡ ኣብ ሰሙናዊ ጋዜጣ ቁ. 75 ዘስፈራ ክውከሰልካ፡

    “ሃገር ማለት እምባታት፡ ጎላጉላት፡ ወሓይዝ፡ ቀላያት፡ ኣዳራሻት፡ ሓውልታት ኣይኮነን። ሃገር ማለት ሰባት’ዮም። እቶም ኣብታ መሬት ኣቦታትካን መሬትካን ዝነብሩ። ሕብርኻ ዝሕብሮም፡ ልሳንካ ዝልሳኖም ሰባት። ንሳቶም’ዮም ሃገርካ። ንኣታቶም ዘይተፍቅር እንተድኣ ኮይንካ፡ ሃገርካ ከምዘይተፍቅር ኣጸቢቕካ ተረዳእ። እንተ ደልሃቅካ፡ እንተፈከርካ፡ ብጉማድ እንተ ሰላላዕኻ፡ ኣብ ህዝቢ ሽብን። ጉብን እንተኣእቶኻስ። ፍቕሪ ሃገር ዝመስሎም ብዙሓት ኣብ ምልእቲ ዓለም ኣለዉ። እዚ ግን ፋሽዝም እዩ’ምበር ፍቕሪ ሃገር ኣይኮነን።”

    ኣብ 9/11፡ ልዕሊ 3000 ዜጋታት ኣሜሪካ ዝተቐዝፈሉ ህሞት፡ ማዕከናት ዜና ኣሜሪካ፡ ብዓወታት እስፖርታዊያን ደቂ’ታ ሃገርን፡ ብፈስቲቫላትን ሳዕሳዒት ውሑዳትን፡ እንተ ዝዕብለላ፡ ኣዳም ምገረሞ። እንተ ኣብዛ መዋሻወሻ ዝሩጋት ኮይና ዘላ ኤርትራ’ግን ሓላል ክትብሎ ሕልናኻ ገይሩልካ። በል እስኪ’ሞ፡ እንካን ጆባእ፡ እዛ ግጥሚ ስነ-ጥበባቢ ሳምሶን ተወልደብርሃን (ኣብዚ ቐረባ እዋን ንስርዓት ኢሰያስ ዝራሕረሔ ሰብ)ክጋብዘካ ዝዓርከይ።

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igP8WZeWtI&feature=share

    ሰላም ንዓኻ፡ ምሕረት ነቲ ዝረሳዕካዮ ህዝብኻ!

    • haile

      መወራረዲት ክትኮነካ’ውን፡ እዛ ሓዳስ ደርፊ “መን’ዩ ተሓታቲ”፡ እናስተንተንካ ሻሕ ኣብል። 🙂

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZQWBBLaR8g&feature=share

    • Ermias

      That’s exactly why you are ‘haile the great.’ Thank you, sala Meron telekimna timhrti kesimna.

  • Omdurman

    The silent majority in both countries loves the bromance that is going on between Afourqi and Albashir.

  • wed garza

    The chapter of Isayas and Omer Beshir is about to close, it seems their final destination is soon too approaching.
    Both are isolated, despair and in a choatic situation where there is no U-turn. EVery thing is out of their control.
    Both economy is nose diving, conflicts flourishing like poisonous mashrooms, world community despised them, zonal assemblies suspects all their presence everywhere. Both are aknowledged criminals and potential danger for East Africa.
    Then is their destiny? hagg together to buy time and to comfort one-another until their sudden and abrupt death sooner than later.

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Very good solild summerization. If Bashir leaves Office oppositions parties in Sudan may take over. Who will take over in Eritrea case?

    • Thomas

      Dictators never die that easy. They are like cockroaches you cannot exterminate them that easily. Look when we thought of DIA dying, he came out from the place where we least expect him, Sudan. We cannot play hide & seek game with this dictator anymore. We need courageous people like Wedi Ali, to finish off these blood suckers.

      • Nitricc

        Why don’t you be the one to follow Wedi Ali? Talk is good–is’t not Thomas? Lol. People are funny.

        • Thomas

          Nitricc – like a weasel:)) You are just a lost boy. It’s is because you are naive, I need to come after you, funny boy:)

          • Thomas

            To make you think and act like humans, we need to get into your brain, don’t may be surgically remove the clouds/dirty DIA propoganda stuff from your mind. Trust me, we care about you. It is just you are made to think that way. It is not you it is them, the DIA media and you know, yes men!

          • Nitricc

            Why do you mean I am lost?
            Why don’t you be the one who the people you wanted them to be?
            You want some one to die for, for the change you seek? It is not fair nor just. Have some morality and ethics!

      • ዕትብቲ ኮኾብ ሰላም

        Dear Thomas,
        “Dictators never die that easy “you are right but when they go their end is so bad even those who suffer cry for them. but once they go they leave the world forever. Look at Gaddafi-our mind start to deny that he was in this planet.

        But we should not be hurry as similar type of group (sure we will never see the same – arrogant & lawless type of government but some sort of dictator) may appear as far as the root that creates dictator is still there. In fact I am more interested to know and work about the replacement than this decayed group called PFDJ.

        • Thomas

          I agree we should be careful for surprises. That is the fear among all of us. However, I think if we remove these cancer tumor once and for all, removing whoever is coming after can be managed. This regime was somehow tied or excused for what they contributed during the gedli time and well advantaged because of our trust and our fall to their divisive, deceptive and lies after lies……… Unfortunately, we have learned not to be trustworthy to whoever is coming next. We are more educated now though through paying high price…

      • Dawit

        I take it you do not fall in that category of courageous people. Man up and stop hiding behind your computer screen.

        • Thomas

          Dawit,
          You don’t know me, but I am not the one who is blind folded. You don’t know what I did for my country. I never judged you because I don’t what you contributed to the nation under discussion. Yes, I am not living in my country and I cannot take steps from where I am. Also, I have done my share, now it should be yours. I am sending the message here. First, I want make sure people of your kind (as well like Nitricc) are eliminated and then I will liberate those who deserve to be liberated. Just make sure we don’t have “KERDAD” or filter out), OK? Fool me once I blame you; fool twice I blame myself. So, we first need to wipe out sub-humans of your kind. Then we will make sure the decent once are liberated from your master DIA. Got it?

      • Dave

        Thomas,
        Isais is playing a game of deception on us. He would disappear for a month , and then suddenly come out of nowhere to surprise us: ” Surprise , Surprise ! I am alive and kicking. Breezing on my feet” , and by doing so he is trying to install the sence of his invincibility on us. Some of us have already bought his tricks and are saying what he wants us to say :” dictators never die easy.” Once dictators make us believe the illusion of thier invinciblity, then sky is the limit on what they can do to us. According to Wikileaks Isais is paranoid for he thinks the US out there to kill him, but he want to us to believe he is invincible. The probability that incidents kill Isais is much bigger than they do on you and me , brother.

        • Thomas

          Hi Dave,

          You are right and as KOKOB has mentioned who would think Gedafi would die. History is telling us that dictator are so cowards. They die after they are caught under tunnels, caves etc. Great examples are Sadam Husein, Gedafi and many.

          Thanks,

  • Ermias

    Just for the record, Eritrea has always produced the best cyclists in Africa. I grew up watching Yemane, Wedi Negash, deki zekarias, etc.

    To those of you giving credit to PFDJ or IA for the recent successes, please save the drama for your grandmama.

    • Nitricc

      Ermias it bad enough you are conformist and now, you are hypocrite too.
      If you are going to blame the goverment for the fleeing and the death of the youth why not give the credit when there is some good things?
      You why, your toothless opposition won’t go no where? Because you people have no sense for right and wrong. You keep insulting the majority.

      • Ermias

        Nitricc, I am not conformist. In fact, you and I have similarities – we both think out of the box but yours are the wrong ideas because being against IA and PFDJ at this time is being on the right side of history. Conversely, supporting or sympathizing with them is being on the wrong side of the majority of the Eritrean people. But I can see that you do have a good heart and I hope you can use that one day to benefit your people.

        • Nitricc

          Ermias, if we, the Eritreans to live in peace and harmony then the first we got to be is fair
          If you are going to tell me the wrong deeds of PIA, please tell me the good deeds too.
          My biggest problem with your toothless opposition is just that
          DIA did this
          DIA did that
          Everything negative. I can assure you, the man is no saint but you can not dismiss what he accomplished and the way his life lead. I have a strong respect for people who did something I didn’t . I agree or disagree with their idea is different story.
          You can not destroy justice while looking for justice
          After all “peace is not the absent of conflict rather the present of justice”
          Lets give every respect for the people who did what we coudnt do. If not we can’t demand justice while neglecting the same justice to someone.
          If Eritrea to be a nation, we must be fair and just.
          I hope you get my drift. But I don’t think so. You seem to be infected with DIA stupid virus

          • Ermias

            Nitricc, as much as I disagree with you, you have earned my respect. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

  • Sabri

    Wedi vaccaro in his DC speech said we should return back our passport and meninet to PFDJ. http://www.ethiopianewsforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=65676

    I don’t think this kind of speech invite to unity. Meninet is more than ID card. The Eritrean people voted referendum by showing this Meninet. I remember how people was proud of it. It is natural meninet is issued by EPLF at that time. It is not a business of a single person to decide weather we reject meninet card or not. It is only the Eritrean people through its coming representative government who has the mandate to decide.

    • I wonder if Meninet is less important than Menkesakesi & Mewesawesi combined. In the United States, you can’t renounce U.S. citizenship to avoid crimes. PFDJ may require clearance from any kind of crime including political party affiliation before allowing one to renounce his or her Eritrean citizenship. How long does one have to live in Eritrea to acquire a citizenship (to become a naturalized citizen of Eritrea), 3 years?

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Sabri:
      I think we should not only return our meninet,but rip it off into pieces, but not in the solitude of our homes, but in the presens of a higher ranking PFDJ official. I have in fact fantasized about taking out scissors and standing up in front of Hagosh Kisha or DIA himself and cut the dam thing to pieces It is a symbol of repression and mockery, after 22 years it has EPLF write on it. Doing so is not rejection of our meninet but a rejection of the very symbol of despotism, murder, torture, it a reject of PFDJ and DIA and their supporters and what they stand for.
      Actually it not even meninet, it is PFDJ membership

      • You said, “I have in fact fantasized about taking out scissors and standing up in front of Hagosh Kisha or DIA himself and cut the dam thing to pieces”

        DIA or Kisha, after having been aware of your desires, would “lazim” shrugged off because they can always replace an Eritrean by an Indian or a Chinese. If you give up your citizenship; well, DIA and Kisha will make an Eritrean citizen out of an Ethiopian, Indian, or nomadic Saudi or baydoon.;-)

        • Semere Andom

          Dawit:
          correct they sell our eri pass for money.
          They can do that, they have done it,but one thing they cannot do is, they cannot take away my Eritreaness, I even cannot take away. their actions that you mention are transient and like a shadow will disappear after their demise. I am not giving up my citizenship, I assure you that is not going to happen, what I am giving up is their ID that they that they gave me by “maddofizing” in the name of referendum

      • Sabri

        Semere,

        There is a lot of things to criticize the governance of PFDJ objectively. We should be refrain from emotional expression. Renounce meninet feels for me very emotional. Nobody has the mandate to decide over national issues except the elected government. Playing with people’s emotion is typical for populism. We know all politics based upon populism have short life.

        Wedi vaccaro’s motto is unity but this kind if expression doesn’t help for unity.

    • Kidane Berhe

      Sabri,
      Do you know of an office that he holds elected or otherwise? How is he deciding?

      • Sabri

        Kidane,
        I don’t exactly understand your question.

    • tste

      Sabri I think you misunderstood his message. I was there and Wedi Vacaro said that GOE will mandate to change the id to get a new one in order to fund raise and he said to reject that because renewing it means generating money for them. It has nothing to do with your identity. You have the right to go ahead renew your old one and get a new one or keep this one if it has a sentimental value to you as he has the right to propose what he believes. The choice is yours nobody is forcing you to do anything. Nobdy is deciding for you, he just expressing what he believes is one way to weaken them.

  • haile

    Selamat Meron

    So, you like us to talk about an old squabble between Mr Salih Jowhar Gadi and W/ro Sophia Tesfamariam! I am not sure that this should be a priority topic for you. Sure enough, not mine. Let me tell you that Eritrea is undergoing severe distress right now and discussing it might be timely.

    In a mere less than 8 weeks (2 month) period of time:

    – Almost 400 Eritreans died attempting a successive landing on land Europe
    – Close to 800 made it alive
    – Close to 5000 Eritreans crossed out of Eritrea into neighboring countries (UNHCR)
    – Three Air Force pilots defected to Saudi Arabia
    – A well known singer defected
    – Soccer players defected (still not concluded)
    – Two airline services suspended
    – UN criticized the country for massive violations of human rights
    – Clashes between Asmara residents and Demhit fighters
    – Wedi Vacaro makes a call for the removal of IA

    …. barely 8 weeks!!!

    The country is in tatters and the regime is holding on by thin threads. Why would we need to discuss something that has long been shelved and has no significance whatsoever to the unfolding crisis in Eritrea??? Meron nebsi…hisebelu zArkey 🙂

    • Jigna

      haile,

      you guys who hail from south of the international border (you, papillon and others) are the prophets of gloom and doom. For you guys, the sky is always falling in Eritrea. By the way, Eritrea is not the only country that experiences immigration in Africa or the third world for that matter.

      But what about the fact that the UNSC is about to lift the sanctions on Eritrea? Isn’t that good news that all Eritreans can rejoice about?

      I’m not even going to ask you about Eritre’s dominance of African cycling. Nah! I know what your reaction will be to that.

    • Selam Haile,

      In one week,

      – PIA travel 2000 k.m through a simple convey to the Red Sea and Kassala Regions of Sudan
      – Electricity 80% back
      – Eritreas illegal immigrants in Soudi Arabia set to stay longer and work.
      – Eritrea Team both in men and women Took Africa’s championship in cronometer.
      – Tadese Kidane and Samuel Tsegay both stood first in two international games
      – General Sibhat Efrem underway of important meetings in Europe
      .

      Regards

      • tezeta

        Dear Meron,
        There are ups and downs in any government. Leaders make mistakes and correct their mistakes. PIA is no exception. Critics of PIA should give him a chance to correct his mistakes and lead the country to a better future. If opponents are given a chance to lead the country today, they may lead the country into a much worse situation. As the Amharic says goes, kemayawekut melak yemiawekut seytan yichala (A devil you know is better than a devil you don’t know) give the man a chance to correct his mistakes if what said above is true. It is easy to destroy but difficult to build anything. Men resort to violence and drastic changes, women prefer slow and incremental changes.
        My two cents.

        • Abdu

          If he fails to do some good while he was able, it is a mistake to expect something different to come of him in his old age!

          Get rid of him now!!!

        • tezeta

          Having listened to Amanuel Sahle, who was my former teacher, I took back my above comment. He knows more than I do about everything Eritrean.

      • haile

        Hey Meron

        – Travelling from Asmara to Port Sudan is much cheaper by air. By car, it is estimated (roughly) $329 per car per round trip. For a convoy of 5 cars, you are looking at roughly about $1650 on gasoline only. Add maintenance, staff, supplies… typical IA economics really 🙂

        http://www.travelmath.com/cost-of-driving/from/Asmara,+Eritrea/to/Port+Sudan,+Sudan

        – 80% Electricity?? Evidence please, apart twitter from charlie 🙂

        – Eritrean illegal immigrants set to stay? and that is good news to you?? Really!

        – Great sport showing, only when the athletes reside abroad. Take soccer for example, the players have to pay 100000ERN bond to play abroad for the country and at other times (for training) they need to pay their own costs (there is an interview with Eritrean athlete and flag bearer at the last Olympics who refused to go back).

        – General Sebhat Efrem, sorry couldn’t see his face…they covered him for some reason 🙂

        Regards

        • Dawit

          Ironically that wasn’t Sephat Efrem. It was a decoy to throw off the reporters and from the looks of it, it worked….That’s pretty funny, no matter how you spin it.

          • haile

            lol..Dawit and how did you know that? Again, why did he want to “throw off the reporters”? Wouldn’t he like to tell them about MDG?…and was the “decoy” Eritrean or soon to be Tigraway when he tells the story?…

            Readers: Dawit is referring to this picture that the Swedish media, police and onlookers thought was Gen. Sebhat Efrem. IMO the whole affair is embarrassing 🙂

            http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/free-dawit/eritreas-forsvarsminister-i-sverige-pa-mote/

            …may he thought they were taking him to eraero for a moment 🙂

      • Serray

        Selamat meron,

        You have such a low expectation of the regime you give it credit for driving a convoy of suvs, a general flying to Europe, two people wining in sports and electricity being on half of the time (cross fingers). But what I find amazing is how you gave the regime credit for the saudis’ stay order. The reason they did is out of humanitarian concern because, if the deported eritreans, the regime in will either enslave them, imprison and torture them, disappear them, sell them to traffickers or organ harvesters. The saudis are denying the regime its meal and you gave it credit for losing. There is scrubbing at the bottom of a barrel looking for pittance but this goes beyond that; you actually gave the regime credit for being recognized as cannibalistic that feeds on its people.

        Nobody turns logic upside down the way you do; you guys are museum material. In post pfdj eritrea, I suggest we brand your foreheads with hot iron to make sure you are not lost in the crowd.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Serray: stay assured that you proposal will be seconded 🙂
          After the branding then Wedi Tkabao can sing the following:

          hadnetna ab ginbarna
          hlagetna ab libna
          hagery kab zala ambesa nbadme
          kula tsem tsem berekaye
          nhna ke kebti doye
          entay konmum serray seb Internete
          hagery seb hilaget eya tfoti elomi
          enho ginbary nAki hagery

      • Abe z minewale

        What about the young girl who sells maStiKa on the street of Asmara

        • Hailat and All,

          I think i did play it cheap. Hailat came up with one cheap list and I did it. What a non-sense thing did I do?

          – Travelling to Port Sudan by a simple convoy has multiple advantage and message. guess and take yours.

          – Hailat disregard my 80% and the governments job with regard to illegal Eritreans in Soudi Arabia for the reason that i couldn’t back up them with attachment. Let my sources stay unanimous but try to verify it by calling to Asmara and Soudi Arabia.

          – Serray, It is not two guys win but the nation stood number one in time trial in the continental championship- Continental Championship. So that is much worth than Pappi and Haile (the ill wishers) breaking news about the 2 or defectors. Thousands my defect but 8 boys and girls makes the nation pride in Africa the continent. Of course for ill wishers defection is like wining the cup and winning the cup is like defection.

          – The two points i raised above have nothing to do with PIA. If Electricity back, illegal immigrants set to stay and work in a place they want to work and African Championship should make any Eritrea happy. But in distorted mind what is good for the people is not relevant. What is bad for the day to day life of the people is rejoiced. In your eyes there is not separation between the people and PIA. PIA is the president and the people are the people. Fight him not the people.

          Mihret Yewridelkum….’Amen’… lol

          • Tamrat Tamrat

            Hi Meron!
            Though you are a supporter of pfdj, i admire Your innocence. But the oppositions have choosen immigration as almost the only one way of paralizing the government. If you are against the mass exodes then you are against them. Besides it is the mass who riskes its lives and livelyhood. If the immigrants die, tortured, rapped through the journy they pay the altimetum. What the oppositions see is the statistics and pointing the fingure to the dictatorial system of pfdj. To make Things wors even pfdj themselves joine the mass exodes making the statistics more fancy for the oppositions.

          • saay

            Selamat Meron, Serray, Haile:

            A couple of New Year’s ago, in an interview, our mad king said that absolutely “zero” development has occurred in rural Eritrea. I think his trip to Port Sudan was the guided tour to show us that, yep, that’s the case. With Isaias, what he wants to be measured is not positive results; but for his honesty in telling us about his bad results. We shouldn’t say ‘what an incompetent man!’ but, ‘what an honest man!’ Even Asmelash’s authoritative voice could not convince us that Mahmiment had become “hawsi ketema”–because our eyes (damn lying eyes) saw nothing of the kind. Maybe the cameramen had pointed it in the direction of some desolate place. Bad, bad, cameraman. There wasn’t even the obligatory “kbur president n_____(farmers, builders, teachers, architects) ny _____ (farming, building, teaching, designing) mikhri legisulom.

            The Omar Al Bashir speech to his people was something all Isaiasists can give: reliving glory: And here’s the man who led Eritrea’s liberation struggle. At one point, they were discussing the iconic pic of Isaias from his rebel years. This one. Nope, I didn’t hear Bruce Springsteen singing “Glory days, oh, they pass you by, glory days, in the blink of a young girls eyes, glory days…” He even did the tour on the Pope Mobile, waving his hands at the flock. Now, since large crowds NECESSARILY mean overwhelming support, we should assume that the large Sudanese crowd loves and supports Al Bashir, right Meron?

            Serray: you and Meron are happy for different reasons that the Eritreans in Saudi Arabia (I don’t know why Meron calls them “illegal immigrants”: can’t you say “undocumented”? Why are PFDJ so obsessed with legal and illegal (illegal immigration, illegal sanctions) but only as they apply to everybody else except when the regime is doing it (illegal suspension of constitution, illegal suspension of national assembly, illegal holding of prisoners without due process for weeks, months, years, decades?) Where was I? yes, Meron is happy because the “illegal immigrants” get to stay, and maybe work, and participate in various Mekhetes (fund raising.) To you, Serray, they were spared becoming part of the hideous statistics in Eritrea: some would have been killed, some imprisoned, some enslaved. So, everyone is happy, including the “illegal immigrants.”

            saay

          • Saay,

            I may come back latter but i just want to correct one thing. The reporter is Gebremeskel Gebrezige’abiher not Asmelash.

            Wish you the same trip to Berekatat Adika.

            Regards,

          • sara

            meron
            i have source in saudi arabia who said there are 5-8 eritreans in the large detention center which has a capacity to hold
            50,000 illegals. unfortunately majority of those in detention center are from ethiobia, of-course many of them hail from tigray but they speak amharic according my source. sofar Eritreans have been spared as majority are law abiding and the few who were illegally in the country left long time ago.

  • Jigna

    Meanwhile, two pieces of good news on Eritrea.

    1. Matthew Russell, a reporter at the UN Headquaters with Inner City Press, has reported that the UN Security Council is soon to lift sanctions on Eritrea.

    2. The Eritrean national cycling team wins yet another African Championship held in Cairo. Eritrea has truly become the crown and jewel of African cycling.

    • rodab

      Thanks for the info Jigna.
      On #1, 50% of Eritreans will see it as a positive news. As you know, there is no polling in Eritrea and it is very hard to guage public opininon on some issues. In the absence of such polling, 50% would be the default value. For me , that is.
      On #2, 100% of all the 5 million us would see it as a great news. We are used to the boys getting us victory but what’s special about this is, it’s the first time our sisters competed abroad and they showed the world who they are. It was a total demination! Kudos our heroines!
      All this being said, we have to own the defeat just like the victory. The state media annouced the victory of our cyclists but refused to acknowledge the existence of the national soccer team. Business as usual – the daily contradictions to its “serving the truch” adage. Peace!

      • Jigna

        rodab,

        I’m not sure if you are Eritrean. The only people that I know are Eritreans for sure in this forum is Saleh Gadi and Saleh Younis. May be Nitricc also. Altough I am not really sure about Nitricc sometimes either.

        There is no defeat here. Only victory! The soccer team was not very good. Let them leave. In fact, I am of the opinion that we should train our cyclists to play soccer. May be they can star in two different sports. It’s possible. They’d be exhausted though. Scratch that! Nah! Let them focus on what they do best and continue to bring glory to Eritrea.

        Awet n Hafash!

        Go Team Eritrea!

  • Jigna

    Papillon,

    You are like the resident Ambassador at Large from Tigray to Awate.Com

    I am sure this is your ambassadorial post. You are here to represent the interests of Tigray and explain things to us from the Tigrayan perspective. That is your God-given right.

    My only question is, why pretend to be Eritrean?

    • Papillon

      Jigna,

      In fact, you’re the one who is pretending to be Eritrean when you are not for the very fact that you’re on the wrong side of history.

    • zegeremo

      well said!!

      regards

    • MG

      Jigna,you are on the Money about Papillon. She claim she is from Asmara and at the same time she said she never heard before Meron as a Male name. she just busted there, an Asmarino who never heard Meron as a male name! Give me a breake. She is a typical wolqait Tzegedie who experience themselves as Qemish sebeyti instead of Mushmush as typical Asmarino Girls would say. there was one Wolqait girl who use to work at Eritrean restaurant/Tea shop in Khartoum Talata. and insult every man by saying Qemish Sebeyti when ever she get mad with them. she was funny.

      • Ermias

        Sorry for the interjection but I gotta defend my sister Papillon here as she is busy frying bigger fish. A little while ago, I posted something about Abraham Yayeh. He was a former TPLF fighter and official who defected to the Derg in the early 1980’s. He is now an opposition leader (Ginbot 7) against the Ethiopian government and more so against TPLF. There is virtually no Tigraway (in fact probably no Eritrean either), specially who was born and raised in the 1980s or before, who doesn’t know Abraham Yayeh. Papillon, with all her knowledge, had never heard of the man until my post a few weeks ago. I know this is all circumstantial but it is a good enough proof to discredit you two clowns, gigna and MG.

        • MG

          Ermias, Where you drank, when you wrote these. No body asked Papillon about Abraham Yaye. Meron and Abraham is to different Names.

  • Abdu

    Anyone interested to read something written in Amharic about Eritrea? For those of you who are Amharophobes, Eyob may help you in translation to Arabic!
    http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/index.php/other-sections/law-and-politics/have-your-say/item/4178-ኢሳይያስ-በጭቆና-ያኮማተራት-‹‹አገር››-ወዴት-እየሄደች-ነው?

    • Eyob does not know a word in Arabic. he can, nevertheless, translate Amharic into Amharic. (The Amharic many of us understand).;-)

      • Eyob Medhane

        Abdu & Daw!t,

        What? Translate something to Arabic? (Ewwwwww…) I’d rather do…. 🙂

        Gash Saleh, please don’t get upset.

        It’s a joke 🙂

  • Godefay

    Selam Gadi,

    I am not denying the various crimes perpetuated against many non Amhara and non-Christian ethnic groups by Janohoy or other past leaders of Ethiopia. Yes, crimes were committed against Muslim Ethiopians in the past. There is denying on this; historians have extensively chronicled the atrocities & that is not the issue here. The issue is why Sultan, the political party leader of Al Rabita Al-Islamiya Al-Eritrea, or the Rabita party, (BTW, thank you for the correction Saay) wanted Arabic to become the official language of Eritrea, instead of Tigre? After all, Sultan was Tigre Eritrean and non-of his constituents speak Arabic. Don’t you think as a Tigre Eritrean, he would stand for the interest of the people he represented, not the Arabs. Just think of it, what would you say if the newly independent Eritrea in 1991 declared Amharic (or maybe even Yiddish or Hebrew) to become the second official language of the country, instead of Tigre or Afar? How would you, by dear Gadi, feel if that was the case?

    Gadi, you also asked me to provide a shred of evidence that supports my previous points—that Sultan wanted to merge Eritrean Muslims with the Bejas of the Sudan. How about Eritrea and Ethiopia, The Federal Experience 1997, written by an Eritrean named Tekeste Negash? Does Tekeste Negash meet your definition of a true Eritrean litmus test (like the Kibere, Awate, or Sultan), do you think he is another member of the King’s Men with woyane issued mewesawesi?

    Thank you and regards,
    Godefay (Ethiopian)

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Hi Godefay!

      I dont know how you could judge a king’s work of those old times based on todays mentality and parameters. But if you have to do that then the Sultan under question did what he had to do because he was just a criminal. If he were succeded then by now you could have called him a criminal because he imposed arabic Language on different ethnic Groups.

    • Zahra

      Let me make unit analysis, here. God-defay leads me to believe that you are God or (truth) defy-er because you sound so. You are an Ethiopian and you are defying others’ truth. You telling us you know better about Eritrea and Eritreans than the Eritreans themselves. Wow, you’re claiming almighty’s knowledge. Unless you are on a strategy of defending Isayas during unmasking discussion to define his real personality, what interested you in old and uninteresting Eritrean affairs when the Eritreans have some other urgent issues. I know you will keep revisiting here as Ethiopian, Djiboutian, or others to save and cover Isayas’s shame. You must be Isayas, trying to stop more uncoverings of dirty history.

  • Zahra

    Thanks Papillon for the link to the news on missing Eritrean soccer players.

    Eritrean soccer players to abscond in Kenya amidst the tightest security need the attention of the UN security. Like an abused child who does not want to go back home, once out, this time the Eritrean soccer players who came from Eritrea if they were three, the third play should immediately be given the right of choice of whether wants to go back home or not.

    The Isayasists here were trying their best to flood the discussants with faddish topics (religion & ethnicity) to distract attention on the ongoing uncovering process of the dirty launders of Isayas. Even the tiniest part of time (a second) is coming up with huge evidences telling the world about the Isayasists abuses in Eritrea and wherever they have power (Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar).

    Time is not on the Isayasists side and is telling them “Avoid” distraction. The more you distract, the more I (time) am coming up with surprising news. So, avoid distracting the flow of evidences. As a matter of fact, the Isayastists were given a ground (Dehai) to hammer into Isayas a sense of 10% human feelings and you failed. Following the Lampedusa tragedy, the innocents within you started hammering into Isayas but you hated it and then the whole ground was lost forever – unless. The 10% human of Isayas would have tempted those two payers to dive back into hellish Eritrea of Isayas, seeing little light at the end of the tunnel. But, guess what? They only saw it getting darker and chose to never return. Thus, the two players are telling the world that Isayas is still unchanged after the Lampedusa tragedy, if not worse. Well, that means, what a pity to hear and reconfirm what Isayas unleashed is just an internal-Lampedusa using foreigners’ heavy hands to systematically silence the Eritrean youth again into yet another and worse slavery. Want evidence? The two who absconded in Kenya are the immediate evidence.

  • Saba Sabina

    Whatever happened to Forto? That was the only thing that came out of your mouths for months. But now you hardly ever mention it.

    You are basically reduced to posting random youtube clips that nobody watches.

  • Papillon

    Amanuel Sahle moves to Meqelle. An interesting interview. Time as they say is the hidden factor.

    http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/tigrinya/highlight/page/id/303301/t/Amaniel-Sahle-and-Hanti-Alem

    • Great interview ! I highly recommend Awatians to listen to what the great thinker and writer Amanuel Sahle has to say in the interview with a Tigraweyti reporter.

      • Papillon

        Dear Dawit,

        Twenty years ago, this was unthinkable. I wonder, what will we be witnessing twenty years down the road. He says, the fact that he can not go back to Eritrea, the closest to home is Tigrai but one can see that, Amanuel is not talking about the geographical proximity per se between his home and Tigrai but of course something bigger, something that is making a lot of people nervous for it is is potentially inevitable. The irony is, when Isaias and his lackeys are vehemently fighting the inevitable, they are pushing the likes of Amanuel to drift into it.

        Haft’kha.

        • zegeremo

          lol..it happened before…..anyways, no one should be nervous; in fact, it is a good thing in a sense that less unionists is less problem. Not only that even if Akeluguzay wants to secede, it would be the best gift for Eritrea and Eritreans.

          regards

          [from moderator: Zegeremo, where did that come from? Refer to posting guidelines about attacking an entire group of people based on collective identity.]

          • Jigna

            Zegeremo,

            That’s not funny bro. I’m from Akeleguzay. Seriously dude. We’re no more friendly to Tigray than the rest of Eritrea. I’m going to slap you on the head if you ever say that again. Go wash your dirty mouth with soap young man.

            Akeleguzay has lost just as many of its sons and daughters to Weyane’s Western-backed illegal invasion.

          • Papillon

            Z’geremo,

            Crass atavism at its best. No wonder you can’t free yourself from Isaias’ ethos. No wonder you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. What a pity!

          • You are misreading Papillon’s comment with a bigoted eyes.

          • zegeremo

            Moderator

            Attack?? What did I say? I am just more open than these stooges in your room!!!

            Not fair at all!

          • Collective identity? What collective identity does Akeleguzay has apart from a kebesa Tigrina Identity.

    • tezeta

      This man is a great thinker. I know him in person. But I do not know why he is in Addis now. For a man of his stature staying in Addis means something to me. Hmmm.

      • I think he is in Meqele. May be he has a vacation home. He went there to publish his book, Hanti Alem. He would find many readers, buyers as well. SG should do the same to recoup the cost of publishing his book.

    • Sabri

      Papilion,

      I have respect for Amanuel Sahle. It is actually sad to see person like him forced to leave Eritrea. However, I don’t agree with his statement. He said something like this one in the interview: Meles has been working for the good neighborhood between Eritrea and Ethiopia.

      • Let’s say you allow me to live in your house (temporarily), would you expect me to trash your wife given that you are married. (what I would do is -tell you xexibuku while leaving out heHimaku.) That’s what Amanuel Sahle did. He told what they wanted to hear. he ain’t stupid. he is not giving interview to VOA.

  • Papillon
    • Jigna

      Yikes! Interview conducted in Tigray. That’s all I needed to hear. Eritreans have a knee-jerk reaction or reflex to anything that has the word “Tigray.”

      • Zaul

        Who are you? Fitewrari Bado?

  • Godefay

    Selam Saay,

    In your reply to you Zaul, you said …”Ibrahim Sultan’s assertion to 75% of Eritreans are Muslims was in 75% quote might have been a “khabu aytHlefu” to a group who was arguing with him that Mahber Andnet was far bigger than Muslim League, or maybe he was describing the Muslim-Christian ratio by land size and not population.” From what I read, I don’t think that was something he said it at the spur of the moment without giving that much thought to the data. Many historians define Sultan as:

    a) a Tigre Eritrean, who cofounded the Al Rabita Al Islamiya together with Abdelqadir Kebire
    b) His vision was to create a Muslim/Arabic Eritrea. He was always a fan of Pakistan’s mission to create an independent country, free from any Hindu.
    c) Sultan, even though he was a Tigre by birth, advocated Arabic to be an official language of Eritrea. Mind you, even though only less than 5% of Eritreans spoke Arabic, he wanted Arabic to be an official language. No one from the other Eritrean Ethnic groups (the Tigres, the Sahos, Afars, majority Tigrigna spoke Arabic at that time (for that matter, even now), but Sultan wanted Arabic to become an official language. But Sultan wanted Arabic to become the official language. Why? As you know, the more desirable foundations of political parties are those designed to define the economic and power relationships between citizens (people, all people—that is Christian and Muslims) and their governments. True national figures come up with a genuine national agenda that that addresses the true of the majority and do not advocate a foreign language (Arabic) to become a national issue when there were many pressing issues that engulfed the psyche Eritreans.
    d) The Al Islamiya party led by Sultan also wanted for the unification of Eritrea with the Bejas of the Sudan. If Sultan is what you think he is, why did he want only Muslims to unite with Bejas? Why didn’t advocate for an outright independence, rather than dividing the country along religious lines?
    e) Sultan and Kebire use religious identity to rally Eritrean Muslims to create a Pakistan like Muslim country (closely tied to Arab world view—a view that espouses hatred of all Christians and expansion of fanatic Islamic ideology). His mission was applauded by the Arabs because they always wanted to weaken Christian Ethiopia.

    Salah, fear of Sultan still reverberates in the present Eritrea (including YG). The current wariness and apprehension (by mostly Kebesa Eritreans) for the so called opposition group (may I emphasis in Jelebia) in Diaspora—in mostly Arabic countries—emanated from the same fear their forefathers had for Sultan and Kibere—the two pan Arabism proponents. That is partly, my dear friend, the reason Christian (Kebesa) Eritreans are throwing their support behind the devilish Isaias—come hell or high water—the man who snatches, enslaves and kills their kids, in the name of national defense. Kebesa Eritreans chose the devil they know, even when their begotten sons and daughters are dying at Mediterranean Sea and Sinai desert. To sum up, Sultan was never had national agenda that aimed to benefit Eritrean of different religious persuasions. His only agenda was to convert Eritrea to another Arab nation

    Thank you Saleh,

    Regards,

    Godefay (Ethiopian).

    • Godefay and Saay,

      Godofay:- You are talking about the wrong Ibrahim Sultan.

      Saay:- I would love to see you expressing Ibrahim Sultan through his best compatriot (yet to religious Christian) Welde’ab Weldemariams account After his death. ‘YIZIKEREKA DO’- I am asking you this because i don’t want to district the beauty of the story through my poor English.

      Regards,

      • saay

        Selamat Meron:

        I am passing it on to Ghezae. Poetic prose is his thing and he has written about this before 🙂

        saay

        • Ghezae Hagos

          Selam Sal and Meron,

          In the company of greats and masters, ‘ayem’ereley’n!’ Not without saying Thank You for the for the offer.

          Ghezae

    • Saleh “Gadi” Johar

      Hello Godefay (Ethiopian)

      The reason why we didn’t want anything to do with you is summed in your sentence: “…they always wanted to weaken Christian Ethiopia.” Why would anyone want to be part of a feudal kingdom that openly marginalizes half its population because they are Muslims? Ethiopia was a bigoted, feudal and violent entity and that was why Eritreans opted out.

      On the rest of your claims, it is a recycled propaganda from the days of Janhoi the brute. Of course, you don’t believe you have to provide any evidence–you say it and immediately it becomes fact! For example, you cannot present a shred of evidence that Sultan ever advocated unity with the Beja. You can’t provide a single evidence that Ibrahim Sultan or Kebire were fanatics, the fanatics are those who killed Kebire. Now in your logic, those who killed Kebire are secular unionists, but the victim who waged a political fight to be free is a fanatic simply because he is a Muslim! See why Eritreans rejected your archaic kings and their violent feudal nature?

    • saay

      Selamat Godefay:

      You are forgetting that politicians evolve. Ibrahim Sultan started out as a member of Mahber Fiqre Hager, then Alrabita Al-Islamiya, which partnered with liberal groups to form the Independence Bloc.

      Why he advocated for Arabic as official language is Politics 101: base expansion. (Please refer to Ibrahim Sultan’s job title during the Italian occupation and British administration.) Abdulkader Kebire would have treated Ibrahim Sultan as a Tigre-rights nationalists if Ibrahim Sultan was advancing Tigre as co-official language. When he advocated Arabic as official language, he won over every Muslim Eritrean regardless of ethnicity and created an awesome coalition. Conversely, (again Politics 101) Isaias Afwerki and all his minions (but particularly Zemehret Yohannes, even when he was a mole in the ELF) advocacy of Tigre language and pooh-poohing of Arabic has nothing to do with affinity for Tigre language: it is an effort to break up this coalition by destroying its common thread: Arabic. Yes, there are many innocent and very well-meaning Eritreans who don’t understand why there is such a push to elevate Arabic as a co-official language, but, at the “high-politics” level, those who fight it fiercly are not doing it because they are worried that they will be overwhelmed but because it is a coalition-building-tool. It is the mirror image of the highland Eritrean coalition-building tool: same language, same religion, same history and when one wants to separate this same language, same relision, same history from those south of the border, why, one just exaggerates the Ras so-and-so did this to Fitewrari so-and-so and, doggone it, those people just can’t be trusted, etc, etc.

      In other words, it is POLITICS. Don’t be surprised when politicians use their craft: politics.

      When you talk of Pakistan’s Muslim League and how Ibrahim Sultan copied the name…Godefay Hawey, there is one thing you need to remember: from 1940s-1960s, all of Africa, Asia, South America was smitten by REVOLUTION, overthrowing the existing order. That’s everywhere EXCEPT in Ethiopia, which had only one obsession: RESTORING the existing order. Please read the book of Mohammed Said Nawud ( a chiw zbele secular communist, founder of “Mahber Shewate” or “Haraka”) and you will learn that the founders of Eritrean nationalism were shopping for inspiration anywhere they could find it. I cataloged this long list in response to YG when I naively thought we were debating until he dismissed Nawud as just another confused guy (like calling MLK or Malcolm X “some civil rights activists”) and he moved on to whatever frivolity attracted his fancy (Abyssinian names, mewesawesi, whatever)

      http://awate.com/same-march-different-drummer/

      Lastly, in the 1970s and 1980s, Eritreans who found themselves in Cairo eventually trekked to the residence of Ibrahim Sultan and Weldeab Weldemariam to pay homage. Please wait until those of us who are alive to die for you guys to make up your stories. These two, regardless of how their political careers started, were Eritrean nationalists and wanted Eritrea to be an independent state that was neither Arab nor Habesha. It is their vision that guides all nationalists.

      No comment on the rest of your hypothesis…other than that almost 50% of Eritreans (in Eritrea) wear Jelabiya and their women-folk actually wear headdress, and some of them, for generations, even cover their face exposing only their eyes. Gasp! Imagine that.

      saay

      PS: If you are going to abbreviate “Alrabita Al Islamiya”, try “Rabita”. When you say “Al Islamiya” no Eritrean will know what you are talking about 🙂

      • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

        We all learn from others idea – every writer uses someone ideas to support his own ideas. If you do not then you are like rootless tree. The other thing I do not see serious problem if Ibrahim Sultan copied Pakistan ideas.
        Many christain that time used to think muslims as threat overall when they use the ideas of other muslim nations. Perhaps the Christian may right for their fearful thought but in real threat however at this time if anyone has that type of thought then the person is with his own problem.
        Freedom means the right to live your own choice like trees scattered all over the plain different soil different landscape but the same area and give beauty for the whole area.
        Threat or reason to fear is when a group stand against another and try to snatch the other rights but just saying I need muslim and I need arab or I need to dress Jelbiya it is not threat by all means.

      • SA

        Saay,
        I have seen your type of argument captured well in the Hindi movie “Raajneeti”. In one scene, the brother-in-law of the president relays a change of decision to members of the Dalit caste. As he is about to get into his car, the powerful brother-in-law talks to the person who is affected the most by the change of decision. Surprisingly, the person tells the brother-in-law that the party has made the right decision. The brother-in-law then tells this person, “In politics, there are no right or wrong decisions. Their purpose is merely to achieve a desired result, whatever that might be.” Your argument about the Arabic language is, of course, par the course in politics, but it will strike as unpleasant to a lot of people.
        SA

        • saay

          selamat SA:

          Well, then, “a lot of people” will have to get ready to deal with the unpleasantness of politics because it will be with us for a very long time and there is almost nothing, including science, that it spares:) Two Eritrean political organizations of the 1970s (one is still around), let’s call them A and B, were asked to catalog the Eritrean people by whichever methodology they saw fit. Here is the answer they gave:

          A. (1) Tigrinya, (2) Tigre, (3) Saho, (4) Afar, (5) Blin, (6) Beja, (7) Baria, (8) Baza, (9) Elit
          B. (1) Tigrinya, (2) Tigre, (3) Saho, (4) Afar, (5) Blin, (6) Beja, (7) Nara, (8) Kunama, (9) Rashaida

          Can you guess why?

          saay

          • SA

            Selamat Saay,
            I am assuming that your question is a rhetorical one since I believe you have answered it yourself (what else could the answer be besides politics?), but I would like to know the two organizations and the classification system they each used.
            Dear Saay, I was not writing against the validity of your argument;I was merely highlighting the cynicism involved in politics.
            SA

          • saay

            Selamat SA:

            No offense was taken, no need to explain.

            The “pan-Arabist” ELF did not recognize the Arabic-speaking Rashaida, but it recognized Elit. The critics of ELF’s “pan-Arabism”, EPLF, recognized the Rashaida, but not the Elit.

            Why? Refer to Eritrea’s map.

            Notice also the nomenclature used for Baria, Baza, Nara, Kunama by the two organizations to refer to the same two social groups. This is because EPLF was consistently identifying groups by the language they speak–in fact, in earlier literature, it was “Tigrinya-speaking”, “Tigre-speaking” and then they just dropped the “speaking” suffix. EPLF was consistent except when it wasn’t consistent and didn’t call Rashaida “Arabic-speakers” or “Arabs.”

            Why? Hmmm, when, for years, the core of your message was the ELF are Arabists, it would be a culture shock to your constituency to recognize an “Arab” group in Eritrea. It is the same system they use now when referring to the US: it is “Langley”, “super power”, “hegemony”, “Washington Administration” because if they openly name who they are fighting against–the United States of America–people would know that they have lost all their marbles:)

            The answer is always the same: politics.

            saay

          • SA

            Thanks Saay for answering my question.

  • Eyob Medhane

    Sal,

    Our discussion thread is full, so I had to come here.

    Did you write this article (Report)? Because, your fingerprints are all over it. 🙂

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html

    And yes. You are right. I am kind of a bit frowned with what the heck Aster was doing. I kinda agree with you and I have no idea what you are punishing me for by making me watch this dreadful thing and wasting the whole six minutes of my time. 🙂

    • saay

      Kubur Ambassador Eyob:

      Ha, let me see if I can give you what we north of Mereb call “megotsgotsi” (different from mewesawesi) a mouthwash to rinse that Aster rapping thing. Here’s a 24-minute live performance of Ethiopia’s Jano Band Laptho Live Concert. Three lead singers (notice how they fade to the background when it is somebody else’s turn to sing), lead guitarists (three guitarists) NO DRUM MACHINE, ONE low-key can barely hear it KEYBOARDS. Just high energy LIVE Ethiopian rock and roll (if you are not jumping listening to this, go for a check-up 🙂

      Belew: beTam tamralachu.

      http://youtu.be/EqAyV3el3iY

      saay

      PS: When the first singer is done and the credits are rolling, it does not MEAN the video is over: two more singers are coming. I am actually stunned that these guys sound this good LIVE.

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal,

        Yup. That was pretty good. I guess, this guys here also took their cue from Jano Band. Please watch (Only 4 minutes)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st2TstY5wm4

        P S Excuse their Amharic. At some point it has become to be their second language. But, they pronounce their “R” the way it should be… 🙂

  • Sabri

    Selamat Awetawyan,

    The former Ethiopian prime minister during the transitional period , Tamrat Layne, gave an interview for the first time about his political life. Many issues has been raised in this interview. Relevant for this thread is the issue of Eritrea. According to Tamrat during the peace negotiation between EPRDF, EPLF and OLF, the mediator Herman Cohen had proposed Assab should be left to Ethiopia but Meles didn’t accept it. You find the entire interview here:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UU1BkPZJO3YzFzUgOULWbG4A&v=t4CtDrR8Bbk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dt4CtDrR8Bbk%26list%3DUU1BkPZJO3YzFzUgOULWbG4A

    • zegeremo

      Interesting, Thank you for sharing!!!

      regards

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Meless in the transiton period and upto 1998 thinks of only tplf’s policy. And as everybody knows Afar People are not members of tplf or Olf. So it is not a surprise there. EPLF is not interested in the afar People as long as the Colonial map is intact. Other wise Assab belongs to Afar state. The afar People depending on the Democracy and humanright Development of eritreans and ethiopians will solve the Assab issue. In the mean time any one interested in using the development of Afar state then treat afars well. Afars suffered a lot due to the 1998 war. Families separated by a wave of militaries of in hundred thousands where afar themselves represented insignificantly.

      • MG

        Tamrat Tamrat the Rat,
        what Assab Issue are you Fantasizing? Assab is Eritrean sovereign. It is better to spell the beans and called Eritrea is part of Ethiopia. come on don’t be shay. it is the same if you believe Assab is part of Ethiopia, then say it loud and shout on the top of your lung. Bzemen Wube ztitsmemes Wube kble mote.

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          MG the snake!

          The state of Afar is not an imagination it is a reality. No need to shout. And i would love if Afar state stays United by afar people Choice. But this great Eritrea based on the sacrifice of Afar people became the thing of the past. The first thing you have to used to is Accept that the afar people wont be stay devided in long time and a good friendship With afar state benefits Eritrea. If afar state chooses to joine Eritrea then that is good too because people like you have got a New hard disc where it is needed most.

          • MG

            Tamrat Tamrat the dead Rat, Snake is a deadly hunter, but you are just a rat a good meal for a snake. you just keep day dreaming. before was the kebesa and now is the Afar. if the Afar give them your hypothetical referendum their choice will be to Join all Afar in Eritrea or Djibouti not Ethiopia. because they knows what Ethiopian Muslims in Ethiopia going through. they are a second class citizens who can not build their place of warship/Mesjid on their home town Aksum. you got it Tamrat rat. by the way are you the loser Aregawi Berhe from Norway whom you got kicked your behind by Sebhat Nega long time ago? if you are thank god you are not going to set your foot any time soon on the land of Ethiopia let alone Eritrean Land.

            [From moderator: please refer to the posting guidelines. No name-calling. Period. ]

    • Abe z minewale

      Eplf was ahead of cohen’s game.

  • Halewlew

    Tamrat Tamrat = EnTAtie nizerie alena. (we are sowing flaxeed oil)

  • Abdu

    @SAAY
    Jeberties were the main slave traders all over HOA!
    http://www.enset.org/2011/10/ethiopia-4th-largest-slave-exporting.html
    “Some of our ancestors, mine for sure, owned slaves while others, like the Jabartis, specialized in the slave trade. They were not, however, alone in this ugly legacy. Slavery is hardly a unique phenomenon to Ethiopia or Africa. It is a curse on the whole of humanity.”

    http://jeberti.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161%3Aethiopia-and-the-red-sea&catid=40%3Ahistory&Itemid=74
    Jeberties were the ones who spread Islam from Zeila and Massawa to Jimma, through trading including slaves!
    http://jeberti.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161%3Aethiopia-and-the-red-sea&catid=40%3Ahistory&Itemid=74

    • saay

      Selamat Abdu:

      As your links (written by Ferenj) are showing a claim I made–that slave trade was systematic and wide spread in Ethiopia for centuries–I am forwarding your message to Ambassador Eyob. 🙂

      saay

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal,

        Noooo…

        The links are actually showing that the Jeberti had quite a lucrative business going on facilitating slave trade. That’s what Abdu said earlier and got a “bravo” from me for “burning” you. You asked him to substantiate his claim with a link and he did. Therefore, he continues to ‘burn’ you, Sal….

        • saay

          ambassador Eyobai:

          Ummm… I wonder how he “burned” me by showing that slavery was huge in Ethiopia for centuries: carried out by the subjects, taxed by the kings. That’s what every historian says (I mean Ferenji historian 🙂

          The only new thing I learned was that the “Jeberta”, highlanders in Eritrea and Ethiopia, inland folk, were seafaring people in charge of caravans that cross the Red Sea 🙂

          saay

          • Abdu

            Slavery and slave trade has always been attached to the history of humanity until the 19th century. Ethiopia is no different but most of the times some opportunist politicians in Ethiopia and around use such kind of issues as means of scoring points.
            Roles played by bandits and traders are often skipped regarding discussions of slavery as if all the slave trade was conducted by the ‘culprits’!
            Wrong!!!

  • Selamat Ahwat Ertrawyan

    Ain’t nothing wrong with PIA. PIA is a righteous man who actually has values that he holds dear and is generally a morally and ethically sound person.

    The culprit in all of this is Weyane Tigray, who are basically kedemtis of the West and are creating problems for Eritrea because Eritrea is a country that likes to be truly independent in spirit and governance.

  • Tamrat Tamrat

    Hi Meron!
    What is this the foriegn minster deliverd the president’s message to this presidant or to that PM etc etc. Is this a kind of pfdj’s deplomatic word for the foriegn minster on the working vissit, meeting or is he realy taking a message to the mentioned countries?

    • Tamrat Tamra,

      That has nothing to do with PFDJ. That is the very nature of traditional deplorably. Foreign Minister is the head of diplomatic corps and deliver messages of the country and particularly the head of country to other heads of states.

      Check how many messages of the oval office is delivered to several heads of states by the state secretaries?

      Regards

      • Tamrat Tamrat

        Hi Meron! I dont understand what you mean by ‘the very nature of deplorably’ but i understand what you mean though i find it strange every time i see the name of the Foreign minster of Eritrea on shabia.com that he is delevering the presidant’s message.

        • Tamra Tamrat,

          It was supposed to be diplomacy. ‘deplorably’ is spelling error.

    • Dave

      Selam Tamrat,
      DHL postal services has stopped its work in Eritrea.Who else then can deliver state’s “sensitive” information to foreign dignitaries than the trusted Foreign Minister. Petros Solomon , in an interview with Dan Connell had said: ” when I was the Foreign Minister , we nick named our ministry Fire Brigade as we were often dispatched to many countries to fight fire lit by our very president .” Osman Saleh is now becoming a Post Man!

  • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

    both are KrDaD (corrupted and wrinkled seed ).

  • haile

    Selamat awatista

    After a long wait, it has finally made it – Wedi Vacaro Men’yu? …. hahaha 🙂

    http://www.raimoq.com/who-is-wedi-vacaro/

    It follows the same style of the “Men’yu” edition from PFDJ that they usually issue when someone makes it to the status of pain in the ^$$ 🙂

    This edition allege that wedi vacaro i) drank nebit & areki at the age 13 ii) he is to blame for a failed marriage iii) he had Ethiopian friends in Kangew in his youth iv) he used wheelchair in 2001 V) His ex-wife is working a mundane job (cleaner)

    The edition also promises “yqtsl (to be continued)” where they will produce a complete biography of the entire life history of wedi vacaro. Also, due to the sensitive nature of the scoop promised to be unveiled, the accuser/editor has exercised their right to anonymity and you might as well think you’re Mosses and God is talking to you in Sinai.

    Now, who is working on “wedi Tkabo men’yu”, whoever you’re hurry up because Meron will out do you, as the latter has already hinted on “problems he developed by himself”… 🙂

    yqtsl…
    to be continued..
    essere continuato…

    • ዕትብቲ ኮኾብ ሰላም

      hHailat and all awate, Selamat.

      Here I am. I was always following Eritrean politics and on the top of all my awate although I was not able to write my poems.

      So as usual they start blaming the guy, i hope they will not be able to demoralizing him. Like our hero Saleh “the jihadist, weyanay, etc”.
      Did I put a poem in this regard? Oh yes Jebana and my village had it.
      እወ:-
      ተቃላሳይ ማለት- እዚ እንድ ኣሉ:-
      ንኹሉ ተጻእቦታት- ምምካቱ ደው ኢሉ:-
      ባዕሉ ይምስክረልካ ታሪኽ ተላዒሉ:-
      ጠቐነ ምስክር እዩ ፈራዲ ንባዕሉ::

      If Wedi Vacaro will stand and challenge he will sure accomplish what he wants.

      Thank you.

      • TiETiE( shiro bubble )

        I do not see the point – I mean the whole page is about his character may be true or false so it should not used against him.

    • Saleh “Gadi” Johar

      Haile, as mundane as it is, an important word is missing from the usual title. “…entay ke abisu.” Wedi Vaccaro z’abeso is still not disclosed. Boring stuff.

    • Papillon

      ሠላም ሀይለ

      እዞም ሓመይቲ እዚአቶም ኣሰብኡት ኣይኮኑን ናይ ሰበይቲ ቆምሽጢ ዝተኸድኑ “ኣሰብኡት” እዬም ኤሪትራዊ ሰብኣይ ኣይሓምን’ዩ

      • Papillon,

        Welcome dear. Well, It looks as though you were suggesting that it is quite fine for a woman to talk about other people’s private lives. Basically, you sound like say : ‘ we have a right to gossip others ‘ just because we are women but ‘men do not have the same right”

        • Papillon

          Dears Dawit and Dibe Kulu,

          There are distinct cultural traits which make us who we are. In a melting-pot society, one can talk about say the distinction between men and women is the level of estrogen and testosterone or their respective heavenly bodies (read: Mars and Venus) as the urban legend has it. However, with the drift of time, certain things remain static. Tradition. There are temperaments or traits I grew up attributing distinctively to men and women where gossip is one of them. As such, my tradition dictates that only men who have lost their sense of virility indulge in bad mouthing others where real men either take it outside and deal with it or shrug it off for triviality.

      • Dibe Kulu

        Dear Papillon,

        This sebai sebeiti stuff is a bit tricky! In this era of the 21st century, our mothers, sisters and wives might not take it easily(and rightly so). They might be offended by your assertion that only women bad mouth others. Is that a fact or a myth (tradition)? Do men really not bad mouth other men or women? I don’t know about you but I know many “men” who bad mouth others. Just a brotherly forewarning!

      • rodab

        Daw!t & Dibe,
        Few weeks ago, there raged a bruising debate on a similar topic.
        Let’s not go back to square one 🙂

        • Papillon

          Dear Rodab,

          I read the “The Expert” tag you slapped me with. As much as I am flattered, I tend to think that, you’re holding back something precious about yourself where I am nothing compared to you.

          Haft’kha.

          • rodab

            Intentionally or otherwise, you embarassed me 🙂

    • Haile,

      From the introduction, the guy has a lot to say about Wedi Vaccaro. Talking about people are road blocks to achieving a goal and a recipe for losing friends very fast. As Eleanor Roosevelt said ” great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people”, I put these kind of individuals in the last category-small minds.

      • dawit

        On this particular point almost all writers on Awate belong to the category of ‘Small minds’. Where do you place yourself ‘haile the great’, who is engaged on Isias personalities topics 24/7? Just a simple observation.

        Peace

        • Abe z minewale

          Haile is the man of the year. I have not seen oPIA in person yet his actions knocks the huge mountain (koratSh but CheKaN) Minewale does not cheer to any one just to his job and mateNella

    • Hailat,

      I remember there was a hot case with regards Sophi’s article about Gadi. I don’t if anyone has disqualify that article yet. What i remember was Awate.coms endeavor to sue Sophi. Can you please connect me with what happened next about that issue? Who won that battle… who was wrong and who was right?

      Wedi Vacaro:- i am ignorant about businesses men and start to know them when they try to outsource power with their money. I feel he is the one but i am still ignorant about him. I try to understand his ‘Andnet’ messages…. Awraja Mawraja… mis bele … Turuf … gedifeyo.

      Wedi Tikabo:- He is a friend of mine. I appreciate his talent. And i liked when he said ‘i am not a ball to Amanuel’. Then wandered when i see him in the field to be kicked by Wedi Vacaro – A real ball.

      ‘Cause Effect encounter’:- i read it right now. I find you to present the effect as a cause. Try another one and view your points in pre and post 1998-2000 war. Then tell me what makes them cause and effect. Don’t forget obseve the same cases in pre war and post war.

      Regards,

    • haile

      Selamat ya all

      I think all of you are right….Meron…hmmm tsk tsk still wearing those shoe the wrong way ma man 🙂

      The problem with hgdef is that they will even likely be late to their funeral. The need to do the men’yu screening BEFORE they hire, not when the slave had RUN AWAY!!! I can’t wait to read Meron men’yu though 🙂

      • Hailat,

        – You skip Sophi and Gadi Issue.

        – Hailat i wander when some people from the PFDJ diaspora camp run after their former comrades. And i don’t support their case. What they most forget it the ‘opposition’ is capable enough to destroy anyone who come from the PFDJ camp. My advice is give time to the ‘opposition’ and they will destroy the guys as they did it with the people like Mesfin Hagos.

        Sesenayu,

  • Abrham

    Poor Meron you have no morale to tell us about the current situation in Ethiopia is bad and Eritrea is “Nqdmit Tisigum ala” helwlew. Defar meron look at your country men and women perishing here and there because of your lovely gov who have no feasible political, economical ideology or practice but you come here to preach us your gov. is developmental while in reality your country is in destruction. Unlike Isu your boss developmental states do not exclude themselves from the world but are active in all aspects in and out of their country. Ethiopia is the best example for this. Citizens from the east and west are working here in Ethiopia. This shows how shrewd the government of Eth is in having these to camps in one. The availability of chines is real and you deliberately mentioned the infrastructures built by them but the Italians are more known in Ethiopia regarding hydro power. Turkish are known for their textile and the french built the first ever wind farm in Ethiopia. This does not mean that there is no Ethiopian contractor in the field. There are many many many Ethiopian contractors who are constructing many main roads and apartments. BTW I do not know any foreign involvement in building apartments and offices. If there are it is minimal. Let me add man, We are imitating their modern knowledge and experience like your forefathers did from the Italians during your good old years. Proof, a local company is the contractor of electro-mechanical engineering part of Hidassie dam a biggest ever in the region. Ten sugar factories are on construction by the locals and many more. Zeithafir, you tell us that Ethiopia is under deep colonization by neo-liberals. How on earth could it be named so at least with out even liberalizing the major sectors like telecom, Banking…sectors which are considered as cash cow for the capitalists? They know the red line man. Bro, your HADAS country is again colonized by your brutal man. Meron,is colonization adaptable?

  • Tamrat Tamrat

    The president used the oppnings of the tread center to tell to all concerned that his Health is intact The bizzare relation the two love birds have is hurting the Peoples they are leading. The sudanese one has crashed a huge mass movement and he has needed a clap on his shoulder and if no no one gives him then why not from isaias.

    • Tamrat,

      Can P.M. D. Hailemariam travel in the same simple convoy to Ogaden Region?

      just want to know.

      ciao

      • Tamrat Tamrat

        Hi Meron!

        Are you creazy, No way! He can do that only in Tigray state. If the PM makes sure that Somali state gets all what tigray state has got then he can even walk without any convoy. That is how we think in Ethiopia. What do you do to us mistar PM lately? is our song! If Ethiopian government has changed the lives of All ethiopians the way it does for tigrians for the last 23 years, the Whole east africa would be shecked by the termoil of the developmental activities by its enourmous magnitude. And this is what we are trying to show the ruling party in Ethiopia so that it includes all ethiopians in all aspects of the country’s Development like tigrians. And to do that joning alshaba or shabia was not, is not, will not be an option.
        From what i see and experience shabia and ethiopia are created to live on the Death of each other.

        But my point is that the oppositions media said many strange Things about isayas and this time he doesnt even care to use his minstirs how his Health is in good shape and he just simply drove to Sudan and joined the tread oppning ceremony. Next time we have to wait the shabian.com what ever happens the president to find out the truth.

        And last you confirmed the peacefullness of Eritrea once again. So dont blame the border issue for not engaing eritreans home are abroad in developemntal activities. I dont see any threatning oppostion to pfdj. The only threating to pfdj is its own policy. So mr Meron, pfdj is the luckiest party and use this opportunity to change its policy.

  • Zaul

    Keme’alkum Saleheen,

    The claim that 75% of the eritrean population was muslim is a quote from Dr. Bereket HabteSelassie, that Bereketab Habtemariam cited in his article from 2010 titled “a harmonized constitution…” But I have seen some Islamic parties still use it to rally support from the Arab world. Hafash.org had an article about a diplomatic mission to Algeria a couple of years back. Why this obsession with demographics?

    My english is not good enough, I’ll leave you with this segment.

    “In the 1940’s Muslim leaders broke away from the Mahber Feqer Hager (an association for a united political expression of the Eritrean people) and established the Moslem League. This, promoted sectarianism in Eritrea. At that time, the leaders of that organization did not publicly declare, as a final goal, the establishment of an Islamic state for such a statement would have meant the loss of solidarity from Eritrean Christians. The other factor deferring such a declaration was the fact that the different ethnic groups professing Islam had very little in common aside to religion. Hence, more time and work was necessary to create the semblance of a common character and history before embarking to the next stage. A writer in Awate.com by the name of Omar Jabir puts it very frankly. Defending the establishment of an Islamic body, he writes: “…there are social and cultural components in the Islamic body that cannot be ignored and left behind. Their participation and contribution in the building of the national unity—the unification of the Islamic body on proper foundation–would shorten the journey.”(‘Eritrean Islamists: Focus On The Root Not The Branches’, Omar Jabir – Awate.com, Aug 30, 2009).

    Contrary to this, the Moslem League’s objection to the British proposal of partition is seen as a credible, pro-independence stand. Definitely, it did contribute in holding Eritrea together, but the underlying causes may have been something else. First of all, partition was understood to mean a dividing line delivering the western lowlands to Sudan and uniting the rest of the country with Ethiopia (Bevin-Sforza Plan). This would automatically deliver to Ethiopia the eastern lowlands and pockets of Islamic communities in highland areas. This would have simply been a suicide for the Moslem League. In particular the Jeberti, who recently migrated from Ethiopia claiming religious discrimination there, would not have liked to go back to a similar situation. Besides, abandoning a major part of Eritrea to Ethiopia would have been contrary to the designs of Egypt (and Sudan) who, since the Khedive, had this vicious dream of controlling Eritrea; and, depending on the influences of external forces, this motive may have created the necessary psychological setting. The other reason is that at that time the leaders of the Moslem League were confident that their final aim of establishing an Islamic state would be realized once Eritrea becomes a free nation. This was assumable not only because of the massive religious and political support from places extending from Sudan to the Middle East and beyond, but also because the same leaders felt that Moslems composed the majority in Eritrea. Again, Venosa quotes Dr. Bereket Habte-Selassie (‘Conflict and Intervention in the Horn of Africa’ ) who confirms a statement delivered by Ibrahim Sultan at the United Nations:

    “Ibrahim Sultan, the Moslem League’s representative to the UN, was the first of the envoys to appear…Sultan’s argument attempted to place the emphasis of the fact that there was already a decidedly ‘Islamic character’ within Eritrea itself. Sultan contended that approximately 75 percent of all Eritreans were Muslims and that the remaining non-Muslim population, being a heterogeneous mix of predominantly Christian and animist sect with an equally diverse linguistic mixture, ‘shared no affinities to the Ethiopian people.’ In his defense of Eritrean autonomy, Sultan placed special focus on how any incorporation of Eritrea with Ethiopia would prove detrimental to Muslim inhabitants: having thus no ethnic, religious, historical, or economic bonds with Ethiopia, the Eritrean Muslims were strongly opposed to the annexation of Eritrea to Ethiopia.””

    • saay

      Selamat Zaul:

      Ibrahim Sultan was a member of:

      a. Patriotic Association
      b. Muslim League
      c. Independence Bloc
      d. Eritrean Democratic Front

      The correct answer is e: all of the above. The 75% quote must be placed within its context. Here’s a guy who was described by British officials in Eritrea as extremely intelligent and dangerous and he is at the UNs ad hoc political committee debating Ethiopians who were condescending and treating him as a clown. At one point, when they were questioning the viability of Eritrean state, he replied that he was worried about the viability of Ethiopia once all the Ethiopianized Eritreans come back home (a direct hit against the Ethiopian UN delegation most of whom fit the description) and build the new state. So the 75% quote might have been a “khabu aytHlefu” to a group who was arguing with him that Mahber Andnet was far bigger than Muslim Leaugue, or maybe he was describing the Muslim-Christian ratio by land size and not population. Or it might be oral history, like the quote attributed to his friend Welwel that 90% of the credit for Eritrea remaining a singular state belongs to Ibrahim Sultan.

      Saay

    • Saleh “Gadi” Johar

      Zaul,

      “In particular the Jeberti, who recently migrated from Ethiopia claiming religious discrimination there, would not have liked to go back to a similar situation.” Do you believe that?

      Why are all the Jeberti defined as “recently migrated” when entire regions in the Highlands are recent migrants of the 19th century? Where did all the hundreds of thousands of zemecha who accompanied Allula and his predecessors and settled in Eritrea go? How is it that a newcomer (Jeberti)were able to settle in prime locations, near water sources when others didn’t? Who do you think lies in the many graves known as meqabr aslam scattered all over the Highlands? It is Jeberti Zaul. If you want to define Jeberti as “newcomers” from Tigrai, it is fine. But I beg you to use the same yardstick and define the rest of Eritreans as “newcomers”–you will see the ratio of Jeberti “settlers” and others is not even comparable as a percentage of the total population. Let’s accept justice and liberal democracy in determining citizenship.

      • Zaul

        SGJ,

        It’s a quote, you and I have discussed this already, natey aykonen. Lomis tropo nafiqkani 🙂

    • Dibe Kulu

      Dear Zaul,

      We must not forget the massive propaganda campaign that was waged by Ethiopia and its surrogates against the ML. In order to instill fear and mistrust in the minds of the Christians, the unionists and Ethiopia were telling outrageous stories and horrific false rumour about the ML and what it stands for. We have to see what was said and written about that era from all angles. Ibrahim Sultan was one of Eritrea’s great sons who did all that was humanly possible to realize his country’s independence.

      With the West’s (US & UK’s) massive diplomatic shield, the UN officials frustrated every smart diplomatic maneuver that he & his team came up with. He gave it all for his people’s cause and in the end, he had to settle down for less (Federation) in order to save his country and people from partition (extinction)! Give the man his due respect…a genuine hero of Eritrea.

      As to the Muslim League party’s motives of then, we really have to see it from the politics perspective of that time. A time when Ethiopia and its unionist surrogates were waging massive negative propaganda against the ML and its followers. False rumors were purposely circulated to instill fear in the minds of Christians and other non Muslims. So, we really do not know what the ML would have done had it won an election and governed an Independent Eritrea.

      We can only go by what we know. It was for independence, it was against the partition of the country and it fiercely resisted and fought back the bandits that were terrorizing Eritreans. We must give credit where one is due and at least, if for nothing else, you must give the ML party credit for these noble accomplishments.

      • Zaul

        Dibe Kulu,

        I admire the man for the emancipation of the serfs (Tigre) and his courage to stand up to the Super-powers. I can understand that using Islam to unite the smaller circle of Eritreans first and gradually move on to enlarge the circle and incorporate the whole population might have been a smart strategy. Eritrea is no less unnatural in it’s composition than any other African nation and should have been granted independence promptly without delay at least after the Brittish period. But the creation of an exclusive Islamic party should also have ended straight after federation and so should the unionist party btw. Because it doesn’t make sense to claim nationalism if you only raise the flag of one section of society and blame the others for not being nationalist enough when they want to join their Christian kin across the river. That behaviour is no better than the declaration of Haile Selassie saying, we only need the land of Eritrea not the people, now replace Eritrea with Kebessa in that sentence.

        I know there were horrendous crimes commited against Muslim Eritreans during this period, there is no excuse for that. Christian Highlanders who collaborated in those shameful attrocities have a big share in the trust gap.

        If we fastforward to this time in our history, we have a communist government in Eritrea that have followers primarily among Kebessa Christians (for historical reasons, not secterian) and some scholars label it as a continuation of Haile Selassie. To do that is highly irresponsible and misleading, to justify the formation of Islamist political parties following the precedent of ML.

        This time around we have an equal opportunity oppressor and we should be mature enough to form political parties that include all stripes of Eritreans. Now someone might come and argue that I don’t understand the socio-political complexity of Eritrea bla bla…but what I know is, human beings have the same needs everywhere. They need 3 meals a day, peace and Individual Liberty. Right now, I can not see any political movement offering this alternative (maybe EPDP’s program).

        If we continue to organize along religious, ethnic and regional lines, Eritrea is doomed and its disintegration inevitable and may be also preferable if we can stich it together again.

        • Zaul

          Please read: disintegration preferable if we can’t stich it together again (without creating a frankenstein’s monster)

        • Saleh “Gadi” Johar

          Zaul,
          Amen to the power of a million!

          • Zaul

            SGJ,

            Glad I could get an amen out of you for once :-).

            Do you also agree with this :

            If we fastforward to this time in our history, we have a communist government in Eritrea that have followers primarily among (not solely) Kebessa Christians (for historical reasons, not secterian) and some scholars/commentators unfairly label it as a continuation of Haile Selassie, to justify the formation of Secterian political parties according to the ML-formula. This time around it will lead to the disintegration of Eritrea, not preservation.

  • dawit

    It is an amazing fictional story, in one week PIA was deadly sick in Qatar and buried in Eritrea and rose again in port Sudan to a wedding party! I think you need to see a shrink to examine you heads. Extreme hatred towards PIA and Eritrea is driving you crazy.

    Peace

  • haile

    Meron ሳግላ ብላዕ፡ ኣይትቅላዕ! እዩ ነገሩ።

    I don’t think you will be naive enough to miss the fact that the so called “cause” in the border war has any market now. It just doesn’t fly anywhere, it is a dead case. Unless of course, you believe that IA is the only brain to defend the nation in the whole of Eritrea! Regardless, you need to look at the objective situation. The regime has mounting civil and military opposition (listen to wedi Tkabo’s song :), it lacks international goodwill, serious implications are cooking at the UN (ignore madot.com). What is the way out you envisage for the regime. Seriously, be objective, there is none! The longer it lingers the more the suffering for the people and the riskier for the safety and unity of the nation. What can it bring to galvanize Eritreans that wouldn’t kill it? Constitution? Bring the detained to justice? Pay money it doesn’t have to increase salary 5 or 6 fold and devalue the currency to less than a third of its current official fix (to have a chance for investment)? Virtually nothing that it could do!! Now, add the threat of further international punitive measures on human rights grounds (for causing the death of innocent refugees escaping its grip) and other shoddy activities of training and arming foreign insurgent (some terrorist) groups!

    Meron, it is tough to defend such a situation, and I wish to know what makes you do so? The people never seem to factor in any of your calculations and it leaves me to wonder what could possibly motivate you to be an instrument of a system that is drenched in the blood of so many innocent and helpless Eritreans? What? I will share something with you candidly: Lampedusa is something that has broken something real inside me. I have no idea if I would ever be the same again vis-a-vis the way I feel about my country. Probably because it happened in real time, in front of our screens. That experience has had a profound trauma in my perception about many things. I don’t understand how other Eritreans cope, but for me the sight of hundreds of Eritrean body bags, lined up for days in a hangar has become a defining landmark of my Eritrean part. Many in the animal kingdom are even known not to walk away from their dead members of their herd. We, as Eritreans, we can’t just walkaway from that under flimsy explanation of blaming the victims themselves or others not involved with it.

    When you say “cause and effect”, I only understood it to mean the border war, but why the selective application? What about the death, what about the dispersal of the young, what about the violations of human rights, what about rule of law, what about the dignity of the person, what about our dreams, what about the price we paid for it, what about the disintegration of our unity in front of our eyes, what about the hope that we once had as people, what about the our children in refugee camps, what about our women exposed to so much indignity, what about our elderly rotting in jails, what about Eritrea for which so much was paid for in blood and dreams. What about all that and more, does your “cause and effect” apply?

    In the end, I know when PFDJ boasts of continued existence against our collective will, it is basing its bet in its perceived nature of “cowardice” and “ignorance” of the vast majority of Eritreans and it calculates that they will never do a jack till it buries them all. Thankfully that era is now behind us, many have woken up and seen their foolish betrayal of their people. The “ignorance” part is something it tried to create by tampering with the lives of the people and normal development, but it will not suffice to serve its purpose. The “cowardice” part has been broken down so much now with more and more credible people coming forward and reassuring the buttered population under the brutal regime.

    Meron, it would be the mother of all fallacies to hope to see this regime continue much longer, but I sincerely hope you re-work your “cause and effect” application more rationally. N’kbretka eyu ember n’manm kabMot aymelson’yu meron arkey.

    Regards

  • Eyob Medhane

    Haile,

    Since the name Ethiopia has been mentioned a few times, please allow me to interject. I read an article, (long article) few days ago, which in its own way suggests a way forward in terms of relations, between Ethiopia & Eritrea. It’s long, but you can skim through. I agree about 80% of what the dude has to say. I believe the below quote, which I took from the article can be used, as a nice suggestion to your friend Meron, meskerem.net, tesfanews….

    “…Eritrean elite need to understand that tirades, vilification, intimidation, disparaging, belittling and so forth on Ethiopia brought no solace to the colossal frustration in Eritrea. Rather it found counterproductive to Eritreans. Better to tame this venom, cool down and think…”

    Here is the link of the full article.

    http://aigaforum.com/articles/Imploding-Eritrea.pdf

    Sal,

    I did not break our agreement. I just chimed in, because Ethiopia is being discussed. Blame Haile for it 😉

    • saay

      Eyobai;

      Ummmm… What agreement? no chance for a Wuchale 2 here cause we are referencing something written in common language (English) just days ago and neither “could” nor “must” appear in my text. Can’t be the the Federal Arrangement 2 (I don’t see tanks) nor terms of EEBC (nothing final nor binding.) So which agreement are u referring to? 🙂

      saay

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Sal:
        I can even remember, the agreement between you and Eyobai and it was that he should and will be a mere spectator with his hands crossed from across Mereb river while we Eritreans debate the fate of our mere, make laws,but Eyobai’s anguished desire to chime in during the making of laws of the newborn country is kept in check by increasing his dosage “Interficillium”, the medication that tapers the desire and temptation to interfere in the affairs of spouse who has divorced you for your abusive behavior, even if his “baby” is mentioned during these debates because neighboring babies will meet in the playground:-). I think he is talking about this agreement from the last thread.

        Semere

        • saay

          Selamat i-tgadela Semere:

          This “agreement” that you refer to: did it apply to post-Isaias Eritrea or to Awate forum which has its own posting guidelines which grant all posters equal rights to speak about any subject? In any event I know how to get Eyob to stop pouting and actually debate issues.

          You interrupted my appreciation of “our great Habesha culture”: I was reading this two year old article posted at FB by a couple of friends:

          http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14357121

          “All the 204 slaves freed by Commander Gissing were from the Oromo ethnic group and most were children.

          “The Oromo, despite being the most populous of all Ethiopian groups, had long been dominated by the country’s Amhara and Tigrayan elites and were regularly used as slaves.

          “Emperor Menelik II, who has been described as Ethiopia’s “greatest slave entrepreneur”, taxed the trade to pay for guns and ammunition as he battled for control of the whole country, which he ruled from 1889 to 1913″

          Oh yes. If only our Ghedli had adopted such fine Habesha values, Eritrea would not be the mess it is today. Oh, wait, we did: Isaias is merely continuing a tradition perfected by Eyobs hero, Tikur Sew who traded other Tikur Sewoch including children.
          saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Sorry. I was just clearing my throat to scream. Really? Really? From all people you brought up Sandra Rowoldt Shell, who by the way was kicked out of the country and her services terminated as adjunct professor at Jimma University for incessant itch of writing stories to foment hatred between ethnic groups in Ethiopia? Her own country man Jason Peters, who is shown in this clip flaunting his Amharic (I know you hate long clips so forward to 18:43) http://www.diretube.com/africa-in-focus/home-away-from-home-video_c7aebf08f.html#.Upof6GTwLY8 (Damn Sal, he speaks Amharic better than you 🙂 ) Dressed her down on his radio show Afro FM 105.3 that this very article of hers has so many factual errors, before she was allowed to pack it up and move her behind all the way to South Africa. Anyway, I again refer you to the quote that I gave Haile in the previous post about you Eritrean elite digging up and propping up such characters and stop “…tirades, vilification, intimidation, disparaging, belittling and so forth on Ethiopia brought no solace to the colossal frustration in Eritrea. Rather it found counterproductive to Eritreans. Better to tame this venom, cool down and think…” I know that Sandra is one of those people to drive your need of “..tirades, vilification, intimidation, disparaging, belittling…” But, please. Resist the temptation.. 😉

          • saay

            Eyobai:

            Harold G Marcus’s “A History of Ethiopia” is considered by scholars… Wait let me stop my hating. What is your view of Harold G Marcus book? Reading it, it’s clear that every Ethiopian expansion, starting from Amde-Tsion all the way to Menelik II (“Pax Ethiopica”) was financed by slave trade: the slaves are always from the south, always sold in the Middle East. In fact, slaves are routinely listed in Ethiopias inventory of trade: coffee, ivory, slaves.

            saay

            PS: Eyobai, that was one impressive research. This is why you belong at Awate as our credentialed FDRE ambassador. Pouting does not become you 🙂

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            As I told you before, I would rather take an Ethiopian historian over any ferenj writer, whether it is Harold Marcus (A friend of Ethiopia) or Michela Wrong (greatly anti-Ethiopia) I know, I know you’re going to bring up some politically and non objectively ethnicist article or a book that may have been written by some Oromo or Somali intellectual and say “how about this?” right? Then, I will come up with another article or a book that is written by an Oromo or Somali to support my argument. Come on! We’ve done this before. I know the routine. 🙂

            So, as far as Harold G. Marcus’ assertion is concerned, it may have some elements of truth, given the situation of the era of Amdetsion and Tiqur Sew. However, that small grain element of truth has very little to do with how we live today and how our relationship should be determined. The only reason that small element of truth is being brought up by the likes of Sandra Shell and happily is quoted by you is to satisfy cocktail of ulterior motives and of course, to “…tirades, vilification, intimidation, disparaging, belittling…” Your turn, sir.

          • saay

            Haha Eyobai:

            Ok, how about we escape that routine and agree to cite only peer-reviewed books and journals?

            The larger point you are missing is that by the standards of ancient empires, what the ethio kings did is par for the course. We don’t measure things against a perfect standard but the prevailing standard. So Tikur Sew chopped the limbs of his prisoners of war only if they were fellow Tikur and released the ferenj? Well, similarly atrocious things were done by other emperors, right?

            Now, take our Ghedli that you despise so much and compare it to the Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese revolutions…

            Saay

          • Abdu

            This article don’t directly link Emperor Menilik to those unfortunate slaves sold, rather state ‘sold for corn’ bear in mind the fact that it was during the ‘Kifu Qen’ at which there were even cases of cannibalism.
            The Emperor is said to have passed a proclamation for the abolition of slave trade but failed to enforce it due to a myriad of reasons from widespread banditry to lack of access and an organized system of organization.
            Who is free from slave trade in this world? Abraham Hannibal the grandpa of Alexander Pushkin was said to have been caught and sold from the coastal areas of Eritrea or in Ethiopia. Who is behind his capture? Don’t know!

            The Jeberti caravan traders are the main transporters of slaves who had a long history of trade and religious relationship with the Arabs if you may have to know!

          • saay

            Selam Abdu:

            You got a source for that? Link? Anything?

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Oh Sal, Ouch!

            Did you read Abdu’s comment? All I say to you is, ‘burn’… (I am doin’ Jon Stewart, leaked my Pointy finger, and extinguish the ‘burn’ on my chest. 🙂 ) Bravo Abdu!

          • saay

            Hi Eyob:

            Ah, the trap and how you fell for it:

            1. I accuse an Ethiopian king of slavery and you can barely control your scream;
            2. Abdu accuses the kings subjects of facilitating the kings slave trade and you give him a bravo.

            The easy conclusion is: Eyob is about defending his kings and not his subjects 🙂 actually the whole Habesha culture is about extolling kings, never mind his subjects. This is why we had a revolution. Thanks to the great Weyanai* who introduced an alien concept through their Ghedli–which they called “Weyane“–to Ethiopia,you have been introduced to something new: citizenship. Hmmm, I wonder where the great Weyanai learned that?

            Would you like some ice for THAT burn? 🙂

            saay

            *genuine praise, no irony intended.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Didn’t you classified the likes of YG and I as ‘Kings men’, well I am just living up to the honor you bestowed upon us.. 🙂

            Because it is Saturday, I want to put some smile on your face. so let me veer a bit. I promise. I’ll get back to the subject.

            Do you remember that you kind of poked fun at Eastern European Jews (Ashekenazi, as they commonly called) the way they pronounce ‘R’ and how they say te-rro-rrist ? Well, please listen to this Ethiopian Jew Knesset member speaking not in Hebrew, but in Amharic, and how she pronounces ‘R’. It is an interesting way of speaking she came up with. Fused with Ashkenazi way of pronouncing the ‘R’, pure ‘Gonderigna’ ( A very rural Amharic. As in calling children ‘Kutara’, instead of ‘Lijoch’ of ‘Hitsanat’. With a bit accented Addis Ababa Arada Amharic) It’s entertaining. (You don’t have to lsten the whole interview, as i is not related to Ethiopia or Eritrea. Just get whif of her speaking style.)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFR4LqE8zWM

          • saay

            Ok Ambassador Eyob:

            I have an Israeli friend and when he is making fun of Arabs broblem with the letter p, I always quote his problems with R. I actually once heard Begin say this: “Isrrrrael has the rrrrrright to prrrrrrotect itself against terrrrrrorrrrrrists.”

            Since it’s Saturday, what did you think of Ethiopias first girl band featuring Aster who raps in the song? Aster rapping Zeraf. That’s just wrong man:

            http://youtu.be/0w0nhbF2qhM

            Saay

            PS: duh, it goes without saying. It’s in praise of Ethiopian royalty. 🙂

  • rodab

    In tune with the government’s habit, Meron sounded as though he has to have Badme returned to cooperate with the ongoing East-African road interconnect project. It is funny the way Badme is used as excuse. First off, if it is as important as it is made to appear, why was it given to Ethiopia from pre-independence to the late 1990’s? Shouldn’t someone be held accountable and be put in prison on treason grounds? NO? Then it isn’t that important. It is important? Then someone should be imprisoned. Make up your mind. Is it important or is it not?
    Anyway, I would assume GoE officials were asked and provided answer as to why Ethiopia was allowed to administer it for so long before it became an issue. I would love to be reminded what the answer was. This border issue, we really are not the only ones to have it although you wouldn’t know this if you only follow EriTv & Co. Many (if not most) countries in the world have this problem, albeit with varied degrees. Many are much more determinantal than ours, others less so. If there is a ‘high’, ‘medium’, ‘low’ classfication for border crisis, I would put ours in the ‘low’ catagory. the EEBC verdict said Badme and other lesser known areas belong to us. And we currently occupy areas that the verdict said belong to Ethiopia. Sooner or later we will swap them according to the ruling, unless both parties find a more suitable arrangement. But these areas are not time-sensitive as you would say they are revenue generating ports and we are being denied those revenues and so we must have them today! Or, they are military heights with security importance and we must have them now! They are non of that. They are just plane un-developed pieces of lands that could be made to use in the future at a relaxed pace.
    The efforts made on these lands certainly are not worth of all the troubles Eritrea is going through.

  • Aba_chegora

    Deate Awate.com,

    I wonder why you allowed the article by Amhmed a. abdelrahim to degrade your website. I wonder what the writer was thinking when he was wasting his time writing this rubbish stuff.

    • One man’s rubbish is another man’s treasure. Go again through what you called garbage to find treasures.

    • AhmedAA

      I was admiring how much the love these two have for each other is way more than the tiny attention they show for their people combined 🙂

  • Hailat Arkey,

    I feel you are drifting to diplomacy from statistics. In this case stay in statistics. This is not about being malicious about our dear Ethiopian friends but about truth and facts in the ground.

    Ethiopia’s construction sector is massively intervened by Chinese construction companies. China’s largest fraction of loans and grants to Ethiopia are allocated to constructions. Accordingly Ethiopia’s Gov. is also giving edge to Chinese companies.

    Hailat it is very rare to see major projects in Ethiopia where the hands of China are off. The most funny thing is not about Chinese presence but Ethiopia’s failure to defend the construction job market for the local citizens. Believe you or not out of the one million chinese workers in Africa close to 100,000 are in Ethiopia (this include menial workers). And close to 100,000 Ethiopians have migrated accros the Red see this year alone. Oh more 50,000 are coming back home ‘sweet home’ these days.

    Hailat – your deplomatic approach could attract impress some friends in the room like my friend Tamrat square (Gadi, 2013). May be another tag ‘the great’ reign on you. However, the fact will remain the same. The ‘3000 old Ethiopia’, the ‘never colonized’ (ya, the king was in tourism trip to England, while the Italians were touring over the lives of Addis), ‘the pride of the Black’ (We are the world.. we are the children)… now is the playing field of the West, Arabs, and the East. Hailat you are talking about country which is deeply colonised by neoliberalism – there are lots of hearteching stories about ‘ye nat hager’ land grabbing of the Soudis, Indians and the Chinese. These sees off the farmers of my ancestral land. The farmers are pushed and pushed from their very land to the poor land and …. let me stop ****** neoliberalism.

    Hailat Check the following major projects and tell me if China is not behind:

    – Addis Ring Road
    – Tekeze Dam (major dams are under Chinese control)
    – Rail Way
    – Major housing complex’s
    – Even government offices…

    I wish Ethiopia the best luck but i can’t deny the facts….

    Arkika,

    • saay

      Selamat Meron:

      Without intervening into your debate with Haile (the great), I need clarification: what is your definition of “neoliberalism” and how is it different from classical paleo liberalism?

      saay

      • Selam say,

        I don’t have different understanding. I can only give you a textbook analysis to it. The main stream decorate it with lots of flowery words and the stream i belong (the southern consensus) view it from the other side. There are several theoretical perspective for it. But i am more my impression is on ;neo-Gramscian; and some how to the ;world system approach.

        The ideology is ‘neo-classicalism’ and the approach is neo-liberalism. i know i am very redundant to your knowledge and repeating some textbook knowledge. Those tex books tell us that capitalism has reigned the world mostly for the last 400 years. It put very few people at the top of the apex. And this very few people hoard money, control power and the way of life. I am not pro 1% economic system. That’s why i believe reformed structuralism could better address the world socio, political-economic system than the current world order – neoliberalism.

        Saay Areky, i understand neo-liberalism the way the southern consensus like Escobar understand it. The fall of stracturalism in 1970th give way to neo-classical economic system. The Regano-Thatcher eara has sky rocketed it. Liberalization and free market came as a new tool of structural adjustment. It is nothing but to adjust the economic and political structure of developing countries for the interest of the few in the apex – in the northern hemisphere.

        I dont want to blame the whole population in the north. The blame is always to the few greedy. Robert Cox see this interns of social forces. Those few greedy social forces in the north are the leading once. They are all – they are world Bank, IMF, WTO, UN and NATO. The mainstream media are their mouthpiece. I don’t trust my memory now but if i am not mistaken since 70th around 26 government are overthrown by different means in Africa. According to some studies they are basically overthrown because they try to abide by SAPs and they fail to deliver.

        Neo-liberalism is pro land grab, pro monetization of everything, pro demise of any government stood on its way, pro friend all against pro-poor mechanisms. It is massively pro corrupted leaders like Mobutu, Meles, Mobarek,… pro all sellout leaders.

        When my friend Serray was giving me a new brand of lecture about the similarity of ‘Fascism’ and ‘Developmental state’ he was not realized that he was talking in favour of Fascism. The developmental states are the ones which manage to divorce from neo-liberalism and join it only after they assure they can compute on that level. neo-liberalism is more close to fascism than developmental states. In 1980s neo-liberalism was totally against developmental states. China was expressed like hell because it wad doing her homework. Now it has done her homework and my friend Romney was debating against China with the 80th mentality while his money and profit was there.

        The issue was about Ethiopia. Do you know how many hectares of land is leased fro 100 years in Ethiopia? Do you know how much money the country get from one hectare? Do you know how many hundreds of thousands of farmers are left land less? Do you know where the food will go after harvest?….. i have very interesting papers about it…

        • Saay Nebsi,

          As usual the poor English is not edited, your brilliance will edit it while reading.

          – At last i talked about the papers about land grabbing in Ethiopia. The papers are not mine but i happen to have them from Ethiopia’s field researchers.

          Regards,

          • saay

            Selamat Meronino

            My “brilliance” is clearly exaggerated because I didn’t understand you. What is the difference between classical liberalism (laisseze-faire) and neoliberalism?

            Not a trick question 🙂

            saay

          • Saay,

            ‘m embarrassed… and half asleep.

            ciao

          • bayan nagash

            Dear Awatawyan:

            This is what Saleh G. was telling us, in so many ways, to stick to what we know best and to say so when we are ignorant, thus, allow those who have knowledge of the subject matter to be our teachers. Just because I read the article and watched Naomi Klein’s you tube below does not make me an expert to argue one way or another. I barely scratched the surface in this arena.

            So, again and again, it would be far more instructive to come to this website to learn when we don’t know and to share when we do ought to be our aim and not to win a debate at any cost even when we know very little. So, here is a starting point:

            Canadian Economist Naomi Klein:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTmwu3ynOY

            A brief article that captures the genesis and the pervasiveness of Neoliberalism as written by Giroux is really worth reading.

            http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug04/Giroux0807.htm

            “Nowadays neoliberalism and neoconservatism share the same doctrine that considers the market as the best mechanism to manage not only the economic system, but the political, social, educational, environmental, health, etc. systems. Since this doctrine has profits as the bottom line, the public good such a good education, health, democracy , all are for sale to produce revenue. This doctrine has been well funded and expanded for the last 4 decades, increasing considerably income inequality .

            Giroux’s article and Naomi Klein’s highlights will give you some fundamentals of this doctrine as a global phenomenon and its significant contributions to the global crises as well as the latest crises in the US including the crisis in education.”

            Dr. Torres (NMSU)
            9/18/13

    • haile

      Hey Meron,

      OK OK, no diplomat here don’t worry about that, lomi statistics tsbah statistics:) Now where is your statistics to claim that 100,000 Chinese are in Ethiopia? I might be out of my depth to make definitive statements on how the rapid construction is taking place, but the result looks impressive. Now from cursory look, Ethiopia’s dollar reserve have incresed over the last decade, external debt has been up and down but inflation had been going down consistently over the last few years. So, that doesn’t look too bad compared the rapid expansion in their economy. You now have to substantiate your claim (or implication) that these projects are exclusively carried out by external man power. Are you sure Ethiopians are not given preferential employment when they possess the necessary skills to perform the job? Meron, we got to look at things with open mind and and judge it with clean heart. There needs to be no ulterior motive for giving a thumps up when someone does well.

      Back to our case, do you think that the Bisha complex allowed for Eritrean youth to be exposed to new skills? (You posted a video about just that a while back) why wouldn’t such be true for the Ethiopians? By the way, I am not sure if you have seen a link I once posted to Eyob about Oromo dissidents speaking in an al-jazeera program (can re-post if you wish), in that video they claimed that all of the Ethiopians that crossed to Yemen (or I guess they meant most) are Oromo affected by the conflict there. Can you give us UNHCR breakdown that Ethiopians from all over Ethiopia (just like we do) are leaving en mass? That is Tigrayans, amhara, southern…

      Meron, I watched the video of IA’s road trip to Port Sudan and I also Asmelash narrating the travel and claiming that all those places he passed had witnessed extensive development. Actually there were none to be seen, apart from sporadic stretches asphalted road, no single building in sight. Meron, in Eritrea today, an Engineer can’t work for private contracts, a doctor can’t have a practice, a student can’t have accredited higher student, a fisherman can’t sell his catch, a farmer can’t sell his produce (when he is allowed to do so), a youth can’t move without permit, a travelling Eritrean can’t ask for Visa if they are not demobilized, people can’t rent government housing, government doesn’t build for people but for diaspora and in euro! Meron, abal selfi mKuan hiji eshinet eyu, sebay nselfi’wn aderabishwa’yu zebehal zelo 🙂

      cheers

      • haile

        BTW Meron, this is the only song I have seen Wedi Tikul being showered with kisses from awald mekelle 🙂

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRYMi_zxNzY

        under 7min [Wedi Tikul: ኣብ ደደቢት ዝወልዓ ሽምዓ… ኣበሎም ዋይ ዋይ ኣርሓ ወያናይ!]

        • Hailat,

          Thank you for sharing… enjoying it.

          ciao

      • Hailat Arkey,

        I know you know well that everything is represented by ’cause and effect’. Few months back you were on the side of ’cause’ and now on the side of ‘effect’ Can you merry them then came up with sound analysis. If you keep talking about the effects without giving due respect to the very real caused in the ground you will yield nothing.

        Regards

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Hi Meron!
      So your pfdj shouldnt worry about the relaiton With Ethiopia.. If it needs to be connected to the east africa road Networks or Power greed then it has to get permission from Bejing or the chairman of the 100,000 chineese in Ethiopia. Who knows the hibernating all developmental activities of Eritrea is a master plan by pfdj untill the chineese finalizes their Colonial Projects in Ethiopia.

      • Tamrat,

        On my eyes development is the outcome of piece and mutual respect. History also backs this fact. Eritrea, Ethiopia and Sudan are rich countries. They can do this or that alone but they can’t fly without cooperating each other.

        Peace is number one. Mutual respect is determinant. The the limit is a sky. Borders are imaginary lines. We the East Africans can me borders history as Europeans did – so can you give us our land then to launch the pad. Easy.

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          If you listen your president very carefully, the most peacefull country in the world is Eritrea. Think of how more peacefull Eritrea would be if all arming, training, agitating all sorts of ‘rebels’ stopped by eritrean government. So your excuse is not based on facts. I appreciate your stand on few Rich controlling the rest of a country’s wealth but dont go to the extream in to a system not facilitate industrialists, innovators, investors, etc because With out these few People Our Growth is Limited. It is much much better to use the wealth they produce With Labour laws and taxes which benefits all.

        • Mulugeta

          Dear Meron
          You seem to be obsessed with the issue of Badme as if it brings some miracle to Eritrean’s problem today. Don’t worry, it is a matter of time, otherwise the Ethiopian government is ready to handover that. But this could only happen under one condition, that the hand over must brings Ethiopia a lasting peace to its Northern Border. If Ethiopia is to ensure a lasting peace with Eretria, the handover of Badem should be made to a responsible Eritrean government who is governed by a constitution and one who is ready to be abiding by the rule of law. Sorry to say, but currently Eritrea is being governed by a group of Mafias and gangsters, with no understanding of law. Ethiopia, will never ever handover Badme to a group of gangsters who are good for nothing, even not for their own citizens. I think, Meron you better come with this question, when Eretria gets a constitutionally elected government in future.

    • Selam Arkika,

      I don’t understand your point. Are you telling us that Ethiopia is unable to use its human capital to develop its infrastructure? Some times, it is the goal and not the means that matters. Ethiopia is showing impressive sustainable Economic development in comparison with other African nations much less with Eritrea.

  • Belai

    Awatians,
    It is good to talk.
    Our ancestors [North & South] did what they have to do to the best of their abilty based to their then awareness and conciousness.That was theirs,and our histroy.
    It is fair to discusse and evaluate the past,but we do not have to follow it or reject it.What we do now should be fit enough for now.
    If Idris Awate came back to the curent world and order,will he think differently? or he will say,that was our way,now do it your way.

    • Belai

      Continued…
      Given the chance,our past leaders could have appologised to the way they ruled and handled the Eritrean Fedaration.Then again,we can not change the past but learen from it.
      We are two countries,if things started to normal,which is a worry for some,we will be one again with out even realizing it.
      We do not need to work hard to be one,but evaluate our past and learn.

  • Zahra

    Lampedusa tragedy:

    An Eritro-Italiano advocato expressed willingness in building block by block a case against the EU, Isayas and his supporting Arab governments (Saudi Arabia and Qatar). Once finalized, he will initiate a legal action against all, seeking a minimum claim of a one million US dollar per head (dead) and half a million per head (survivor).

    The Ethiopians, as well as, are initiating their own legal action against the Italian government.

    • MG

      Zahra, is the said Eritro-Italiano advocato is by chance wedi Vacaro? if he is, never mind. He is only crying for his lost hotels, which it is not his money to began with. He stooled the money from the haffash woudbat and ERA (Eritrean relief Association) in Europe in the 1970s and 1980s when he was in charge of it from Italia. there is one more person who stool EPLF money in Kuwait in the 1980,His name is Beyene Fasil and live in America. I hope he will do the right thing and return the Eritrean peoples money be for he pass way. He is in his 80 with heart problem (He had by pass) and he is stink rich.

      [Moderator: we assume you mean stole by “stooled”. If that is the case, can you please care to provide evidence? Accusing people of crimes of this magnitude needs to be corroborated with evidence, you just cannot throw them around and remain unchallenged.]

      • MG

        Moderator, thanks for pointing out the misspelled, yes it should read Stole not stooled. please have patience and all the evidence against those criminals, weather they took (stole) Eritreans Money or Eritreans incent life it will come out and present to the court of law either here in the USA, Italy, Eritrea, or in all of these countries. For now enjoy reading the following story and have patience.

        http://www.raimoq.com/who-is-wedi-vacaro/

  • rr

    Hilarious

  • Elihude

    … a bit too much. I mean about the gay demeanor. Tasteless to anyone’s liking.

    • AhmedAA

      I found the entire silly show more tasteless, specially that the dictator is yet to say a word about Lampedusa victims 2 months later.

  • tezeta

    Hi Folks,
    Addis is said to have 4G while the rest of Ethiopia will have 3G. What is the telecom situation in Ere Tsada? It is good to have healthy competition, right? See the link below for more info.
    http://www.bdlive.co.za/africa/africanbusiness/2013/11/29/ethiopia-picks-huawei-to-roll-out-4g-across-capital

    • haile

      Selam tezeta,

      Talking of competition, I believe what Eritrea has to compete against Ethiopia (or collaboratively work if possible) is on the are of Civil Engineering and construction sector. Right now, Eritrean Civil Engineers are banned in Eritrea and only work for PFDJ owned companies. Ethiopians on the other had had accumulated huge skill in this area. Recently I watched how they are building massive railway networks, before that they managed to build close to a million residential complexes, add to that the Millenium dam project, the Ethiopian civil Engineer is having a hay day. This is without adding to massive other projects that have transformed cities like Mekele into high-rise islands.

      One’s Eritreans are able to rid of the current menace bedeviling us, I see a lot of room for working with and learning from our Ethiopian neighbors on the field of civil engineering works. In fact, I would vote to a party in Eritrea who would pledge to give Ethiopian Construction companies an edge over the usual far east one’s to undertake projects in Eritrea that require external involvement. This way we can compete and benefit each other at the same time. Eritrean civil engineers, watch out…the Ethiopians are coming 🙂

      cheers

      • Dawit

        Are you serious? I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but it’s the Chinese and other foreigners who are building these projects. One thing we can at least give credit to the Eritrean regime is that it doesn’t sell its people and nation out to foreigners. I admire the approach of seeking equal partnerships and not clamoring for a master-servant relationship we so commonly see in the developing world.

        • tezeta

          Dear Dawit,
          You have great eyes to see good in evil. May I beg the question: r u serious? Hope you are not expressing sour grapes.
          “In an old fable by Aesop, a hungry fox noticed a bunch of juicy grapes hanging from a vine. After several failed attempts to reach the grapes, the fox gave up and insisted that he didn’t want them anyway because they were probably sour. Nowadays when somebody expresses sour grapes, it means that they put down something simply because they can’t have it. ”
          See the city of Bahirdar which looks like Asmara in its hey days.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvYS67rSs-U

      • welde

        Mr Haile,

        great point, humble and very astute and i for one will like to see florish between all neigbours.

      • Haile,

        You should pride yourself for giving both sides (Eritrean as well as Ethiopian sides) equal consideration. You are a moderate fella, unlike some individuals who are either all the way to the left or all the way to the right. It’s now evident from your comment that you are not as radical as I thought you were. 😉

      • tezeta

        Selamat Haile,
        I have relatives and friends who are civil engineers by profession. I am pleasantly surprised how much they have economically succeeded. For instance, one of them has sent four of his kids to the best universities in USA. He has incredible amount of income. The other ones have equally succeeded to my disbelief in a space of five years. Mind you, these are not related to the ruling party ethnically or politically. I sometimes think it is a bubble. But I do not see the bubble exploding. When we were kids Eri engineers and businessmen were dominating the economy. Now I do not know where they are. Hope they come back to rebuild their country and compete with our engineers.
        Have fun.

    • Ethiopia’s high economic achievement could attract many Eritreans away from Israel, Sudan, and the gulf states. But, the migration flow to Ethiopia could lead to a brain drain (Eritrea) and brain gain (in Ethiopia).

      Racism, and prejudice might also flare up as immigrants drive wages down, and as they compete against Ethiopian citizens for jobs.

      • Horizon

        Dear Daw!t,

        One of the things that worry the die-hard anti-Ethiopia Eritreans is the potential relocation of Eritreans to Ethiopia and the likely prosperity they might achieve; in which case they would prefer to stay and create a new life in Ethiopia rather than return to Eritrea. The newcomers would see life through a different prism from those Eritreans who lived in Ethiopia pro-independence. They are devoid of any sort of nostalgia towards the unknown paradise the province of Eritrea was to the majority of Eritreans who lived in Ethiopia pre 1991. Today reality has taught them that home is where the grass is greener, and life is meant to give happiness and peace of mind, and it is not meant to be a permanent sacrifice. Many are tired of the fact that independence has become an ancient goddess that requires the continuous sacrifice of the young to be able to survive.
        Of course, there are many practical difficulties, and it is easily said than done. Eritrean refugees studying in Ethiopian universities and those who are living with friends and relatives in Ethiopia are future Ambassadors of the Ethio-Eritrean relations. One has to remember what someone once wrote, saying what the big deal is if Eritrean refugees study in Ethiopian universities. That was the utter shortsightedness of those people I mentioned at the beginning; the distorted mindset of those who are ready to sacrifice others as if they are the priests of the ancient goddess I mentioned earlier, of course, with no consequences to themselves.
        The other question you raised is also equally important. Will Ethiopians be prejudiced against the New Eritreans in Ethiopian society? I have only this to say; I hope not, I expect not, and I believe not.

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          Hi,Horizon! I always appreciate Your cool approch and arguments. Your reasnings concerning the multi ethnic Groups of Eritrea and Ethiopia are based on their relations but not on the assumed economical profit. That is why you ideas on a head on colions With the die hard ones.

        • Dear Horizon,

          Many Eritreans are, in my opinion, in a position where they are faced with two seemingly unwelcome options and these are: unity with Ethiopia and an independent Eritrea in which the primary basis for the government is Sheria law. If we believe in one man one vote for a universal suffrage, we Eritreans could eventually kiss good bye any form of secular government. (It’s believed that Muslims outnumber Christians and non-christians in Eritrea).

          Additionally, the neo-andinets wish could come true if the force of those who wish to create an Islamic state grows. Today it’s the demand for Arabic language to be co-equal with a Tigrina language, tomorrow might be , through a popular vote, the demand for sheria law to be the supreme law of the land.

    • haile

      Dawit

      It is hard to verify your claims, I for one am only looking at the final product and they seem to finalize large scale projects over short period of time. The personnel that I see on youtube working on the projects are Ethiopians, hence they must have developed skillwise in a big way. I know the millenium dam is self financed and it is Italians that are also involved, not Chinese (from the little I know). There is nothing to appreciate from the Eritrean regime, it simply banned all construction work and that was that. It is holding Asmara to ruins and hasn’t got any major undertaking (short of the mining companies) to show for its work. Yes there is the Massawa airport, few buildings in Asmara and and a bridge in Geret. That is way too little to show for a quarter of a century and edme klte gobez temenTilu.

      Again, Ethiopia is member of the no-war no peace club and doesn’t hold its youth hostage because of it.

      I don’t personally know the city of Mekelle, but the following short video shows a lot of new buildings..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_W7Tk3xSEA

      Regards

  • Abdu

    Politics?
    Awatistas and Asmarinos, you need to come up with a clearly spelt agenda of your own political goals and strategies towards achieving such goals rather than following the whereabouts of DIA! It’s I think an embarrassment for those who were writing bad omens about DIA’s disappearance from the media for a couple of weeks which clearly speaks for weakness of both of you!

  • AhmedAA

    @sebKedem Bereket and many performers may have been there, but sure Wedi Tikabo was not there and that is a good thing 🙂

    • Dawit

      Why are we putting so much onus on a singer? Let’s be frank and honest with ourselves, he brings nothing of tangible benefits to the opposition. Unless dancing at gualyas is our intention. We couldn’t even capitalize on the bigger fishes out there (i.e, Mesfin Hagos, Ali Abdu?.

  • sara

    today at 2 pm Eritrean time a friendly match soccer game is played between Eritrea and Sudan in Nairobi, those who are sport lovers could watch it in sudan tv live. btw, two players in the Eritrean team are from diaspora…. born and raised abroad but chose to play for their national team… ERITREA.
    long live the brotherly/sisterly relation ship between eritrea and sudan…
    those the writer has used a wrong analogy to describe the relations of eritrea and sudan, for those ethiophiles am sure is head ache as the two countries may end up one day being united.

    • tezeta

      Dear Sara haftey,
      Marriage with a neighboring country, such as Ethiopia, has been toxic to Eritrea. Eritrea should remain independent without any marriage/remarriage with Sudan or Ethiopia respectively. Otherwise, you will be divided since the Christians might to stay independent or remarry with Ethiopia, if the Muslims choose to unite with Sudan. My two cents.

      • Abdu

        Toxic?
        Who was toxic? Ethiopia? Eritrea? None of them! But the so called Ghedli together with oppressive Ethiopian regimes of the time in which Eritreans controlled some of the higher echelons of power!

        Ghedli fanatics never gave a dame about the future of Eritrea and the people but power! They read about Mao Tsedung, Chi Guevara, Ho Chi Minh and other revolutionaries and they want to write a similar story of their own with the blood of the poor which still clings on in the minds of leaders such as DIA as a cult. The same story is true to the Ethiopian revolutionaries of the time. They both believe in the necessity of change but don’t know what to do thereafter or don’t bother to think about it since that is irrelevant to their case!

      • sara

        tezeta..
        you are right to think like that from distance … but if you are really eritrean and you have lived in eritrea in the 60–70.. you will know what i mean… ask any eritrean what they think of sudan… wow… our second home
        if you ask them about etiobia…well, i am sure you could guess..what they will say… it is all about BLOOD AND TEARS.
        and dont worry about the division of eritrea,ertitreans have solidified their unity throughout the harsh history they faced thorough the past 60 years.

    • Sara,
      You should have rather said that Eritrea would one day be dominated by an Arabic culture, language and politics. The Arabic influence could mark the beginning of the end of the beautiful Habesha culture and languages which have existed way before Islam spread in on the East part of Africa. To preserve our manufactured “Eritrean Identity” , Eritrea should be left independent. We have to design a mechanism whereby both Arab wannabes and Habeshas live in harmony.;-) Just a thought.

      • MG

        Dear Daw!t, how about Just a thougt for you that Arabic is an Eritrean language spoken by one of Eritrean Ethnic/Bihere Rashaida. Just a thought for you and your likes fanatic Habesh zealots.

      • sara

        hey.. who told you we are habesha… we are part of the arab world… our culture is Arab..and we do speak Arabic and our politics is influenced by what happens in the Arab world.. what else… there are more eritreans residing in the arab world than in any part of the world… we know our identity better than those who would like to force on us their identity, if you were the same DAWIT a friend of my elder brother you would know exactly what i am saying..unfortunately you may be dawit from the south of the border.. i cant help you.
        eritrea is for eritreans and they know who they are and where they want to

    • hmmm

      Sara
      you made my day. Unity with sudan that will be nice.

      • sara

        look… when i said unity, i don’t mean the same unity we had been fores-ed to have with ethiobia in the 50th,the unity i aspire is the voluntary unity we see in many regions of the world.imagine …if we have people like yg and his followers are looking to unite us with etiobia..heck.. i would look forward for eritrea and sudan to be united..why not! at-least there is no blood history ..
        there are so many eritreans in sudan… they live there safely … and most of you in your 50th or 60… have lived in sudan or passed thorough sudan sometime in the past ..and you have experienced how sudan is to eritreans
        unlike what our people have gone through ethiobia in the past or the recent past… remember the deportation of eritreans from etiobia.. we don’t like your eye color etc.

    • saay

      Selamat Sara:

      A big, emphatic NO to unity with Sudan. I am usually against use of reverbs and echoes and sound effects but if my “NO!” was in audio and not written format, I would use all of them.

      The area bordering Eritrea, Eastern Sudan, is extremely marginalized with Isaias and his buddy Al Bashir, playing favorites and deepening enmity among the three largest groups: Beni Amer, Hadendawa, and Rashaida.

      The rest of Sudan: not only does it have little to do with Eritreas history and culture, they have little to do with one another. Let’s say no to all sorts of arrangements: federation, confederation, union—everything except treaties–until we all clean up our houses.

      saay

      • welde

        Mr SAL,
        Unfortunately, the people’s choice would be to unite with their kin in sudan.
        However hard you try to disciurage this inclination, at the end of the day the people at that part of Eritrea would prefer to be part of Sudan than not.The dynamics at the ground level may not be to your liking,so in short you better be ready for the unexpected and undesirable consequences of post Isayas Eritrea. For peaceful coexistance of the people of Eritreans that is the only way or destroy the country and its people for the next 20 years like the Somaiya.
        However hard you try to denay it, that may be the only peaceful future for the people.

        • saay

          Selamat Welde:

          Nah. There is really no support for your case, but there is for mine: Bevin-Sforza Plan.

          The Bevin-Sfroza has been characterized as “Muslims supported being part of Sudan and Christians supported being part of Ethiopia” ever since Nehnan Elamanan said so. In reality, Bevin-Sforza would have partitioned the highlands and the coastal area to Ethiopia; and the Western lowlands to Sudan. (with some autonomous regions for Italians.) This proposal was REJECTED by the Muslim League and accepted (reluctantly) by the Unionists and, crucially, Haile Selasse. It was defeated when the Haitian ambassador to the UN disobeyed the direct orders of his president and voted against it.

          In post-revolutionary Eritrea when wanting to be part of Ethiopia was considered a taboo, some (the author/s of Nehnan Elamanan specially) wanted to spread the guilt around and said “Well, Muslim lowlanders wanted to be part of Sudan, too” but there is zero evidence for that. In the last 60 years, the Muslim lowlanders have asked for many things–Eritrean independence, autonomous regions, regional federation–but they have not once asked for union with Sudan. Not once. Forget an organized group: I have never even read an ARTICLE by an individual proposing that. Thus, your claim is more of the uninformed “let’s spread the guilty feeling around” thing.

          By the way, when it comes to the Hebret/Andnet movement of the 1940s, I am in the minority: I believe that those who proposed union with Ethiopia in the 1940s have NOTHING to be ashamed about. They were advancing a policy that they considered was in the best interest of their people. All the horrible things they did against their own people (the shifta movement) were the work of Haile Selasse.

          saay

          • Zaul

            SAAY,
            Can you explain to me Why Ibrahim Sultan said, Eritrea is 75% Muslim at the UN. Was it tactical or did he actually believe that since muslims were a majority, it would not be beneficiary to join such a big country like Sudan. Why did they create a separate muslim league movement and not a single inclusive nationalist movement.

          • saay

            Selamat Zaul:

            Source? Gotta ask. Even the “from the standpoint of justice…”line that we Eritreans attribute to John Foster Dulles, I have never been able to find the exact quote in UN documents.

            saay

          • Saleh “Gadi” Johar

            Hi Zaul,
            I miss you, so I will take this opportunity before SAAY sees it 🙂
            Even Ibrahim Sultan could not have depended on any other source but the British statistics which showed almost equal division of the population between Christians and Muslims. I believe he was being shrewd and tactical.

            Ibrahim Sultan never advocated joining teh Sudan, he was an adversary to the negligeabhle few who tried when they were frustrated and weary Eritrea might join Ethiopia. The idea died as soon as it was floated, there were no buyers among the Muslims. No one brought it to life after the brief period in the late forties.

            Ibrahim Sultan didn’t create the Muslim League haphazardly, it evolved. Many people do not see the strength and the single most important role he played; they see him as the founder of Rabita in its nationalist role.

            Ibrahim Sultan was an emancipator before he became engaged in heat of union vs independence. His movement was akin to that of MLK, he set out to emancipate the Tigre (serfs) from the bondage of the Shemagle (nobles)–a system so prevalent in his days in Western Eritrea. Himself from a serf clan, he was aware of the injustices that befell the Tigre where a Tigre and Shmaggle blood money (Kahsa) was skewed to the benefit of the Shmaggle. The life of a Tigre could be worth 1 camel damages while that of the Shmaggle would be many folds that (I am not sure but I think the ratio was 1 to 50). To organize the Tigre serfs, who were not as sophisticated as the rest of Eritrea at the time, therfore he couldn’t use intellectually loaded political programs, etc, he opted to use Islam as a bond and agitated the Tigre to resist oppression because Allah created everyone equal. That call and strategy showed the genius of Ibrahim Sultan and soon he organized a huge number of follower. He eventually won and the class system was aborted (at least leggaly though some customs and effects remained for long after that).

            When Ethiopia began is maneuvers to swallow Ethiopia, he rallied the same Muslim organization as a constituency against unity with Ethiopia. Equally weary people under the leadership of Abdulkadir Kebire were also organized to resist union and servitude under the feudal king Haile Selassie. They joined hands and enlarged the Muslim League and made it a formidable party. Once organized and self-confident, the Muslims and the Liberal Christians in the highlands coalesced and formed the Independence block which challenged the Shifta backed Unionist party. That is the answer to your question of “why not a single nationalist movement…” The Muslims and Christians did form an inclusive nationalist movement: The Independence Block–the rest, I believe, is known to you.

            I will stop here because I think I covered your questions about Ibrahim Sultan.

    • Zaul

      Cecafa cup 2013 in Kenya (12 teams, 8 teams advance)
      Really bad start, now they must beat Rwanda by a big margin and at least a draw against reigning Champions Uganda.

      Group C
      Sudan-Eritrea: 3-0
      Uganda-Rwanda: 1-0

  • “Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody’s face but their own” –Jonathan Swift

    I like your Satirical piece. Indeed, deserves to be posted on theOnion.

    Happy thanks giving to all those who live in the U.S. Millions of Turkeys have given their lives (martyred) so that we can spend time with families and friends. On the contrary, hundreds of thousand of Eritreans gave their lives so that Eritreans would disperse to all corners of the world , separated from friends and families. (Sad story).

  • abe

    superb, he he he he, ketilkana yachi

  • SebKedem

    But I heard that Bereket Mengsteab was there too with his ‘Wahyo new bela hishukshuk zeamela’ oh noooooo.
    thx, that was a good one.