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A Glance To The Past, A Focus On The Future

Eritreans have a myriad of unresolved internal issues to worry about external ones. However, all of the problems and crisis hindering the creation of an effective opposition force to unseat the tyrant is not totally their fault. Frustration has been building among Eritreans who feel like they are adding water to a barrel with a hole in it.

Though the politically correct Eritreans would restrain themselves from criticizing Ethiopia, even mildly, the Awate Team has never stopped from mentioning the grievances that are causing frustrations among Eritreans. Ethiopian officials are infatuated with offering their patronage to select individuals, overtly and covertly,  since the Eritrean opposition set shops in the country. At times, their choices have been political lepers at best, and unknown, untried individuals at worst. This editorial attempts to explain the fear of the unknown, the protection of national interest, and the aspiration of Eritreans in general. It hopes to shed light on the main issues that are behind all the murky and unproductive relations within the opposition, as well as the view of many Eritreans on the topic. Of course, this doesn’t diminish the humanitarian appreciated support that Ethiopia is offering to Eritrean refugees, and the educational opportunities that some young Eritreans are enjoying. However, today we will address only the sticky political issues–lacing it with gratitude and indebtedness to Ethiopia for its support will make it sound insincere.

Basic decency and prudent politics restrain governments from interfering in the business of other countries. Undoubtedly, human values also encourage people to be compassionate, friendly, and loyal to their neighbors. And the line that separates acceptable and detested interference is very thin. Hence, the need for diplomatic protocols that spell out articles that govern the relation between countries, since the cause of most conflicts is interference in the pursuit of national interests. However, sometimes countries may see the need to safeguard their national interest by pursuing an aggressive foreign policy which might have serious consequences. To avoid that, countries sign bilateral, trilateral, regional, and international agreements and treaties in order to regulate their relations and to minimize conflicts of interest.

Though both Sudan and Ethiopia have equal interest in Eritrea, and all of Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Djibouti are less interested in comparison, the Eritrean-Ethiopian relation is at the top of the foreign policy list of both countries. Understandably, that is due to the strong cultural and historical relations between the two countries. But, should that link annul the other Eritrean relations with other neighbors, as some believe and insinuate, or it should be given its due, fair, and balanced weight? The two major components of the Eritrean population are fearful of two hegemonic projects. The Muslims fear Abyssinian and Christian hegemony while the Christians fear  the Muslim and Arab hegemony; the fear has now developed into a full blown crippling phobia bordering on sectarianism.

Given the fact that most of the historical conflicts in the region were fueled and ignited in the highlands of Eritrea and Northern Ethiopia, are the conflicts caused by rivalry and competition among kinfolks, as some describe it, or is it the fear of others that fuels the conflicts?

Unfortunately, the nature and gist of the conflicts in the region have remained the same: primordial allegiances and rationalization with feudal tendencies and characteristics. But such rifts are not new to Eritreans whose interests and social connections are deeper than meets the eye. Every time the rift showed its ugly face, the inner will of Eritreans has prevailed in defeating it. However, the 24-year old tyranny of Isaias Afwerki has denied Eritreans the opportunity to face such problems in a free environment, inside their country, by referring and falling back on their rich traditional conflict resolution mechanisms. Hence, open debates about national issues, including peace and coexistence, is entrusted to the exiled Eritreans who are trying their best to find solutions to their predicament. And since the Ethiopian-Eritrean relation is the main topic that occupies the mind of the average Eritrean and Ethiopian, relative to other relations, what happens in Ethiopia influences the Eritrean mindset; to a lesser extent, what happens in Eritrea concerns the average Ethiopian. Therefore, it’s our wish that Ethiopians see their Eritrean policy in this light because policies can either incite, provoke, or prevent conflicts that might lead to dire consequences.

As a major debating and opinion-making platform, awate.com has always been walking on a thin line to avoid trespassing on issues that many consider strictly external. However, the blurred thin line is so enticing to walk over. In addition, it’s difficult to discern whether certain issues are internal or external in nature. At any rate, what are the internal and external Eritrean concerns in regards to Ethiopian issues and vice versa?

Though Ethiopians and Eritreans went through a never-ending history of rivalry and violence, they have also seen occasional misleadingly calm years caused by mischievous alliances that are at the root of the instability in the region. In fact, the Abyssinian region played a major role in most of the conflicts of the region–it’s where oppression was unleashed, and where imperialism was expanded, with far-reaching adverse effects on the entire population of the two countries. A critical assessment is certainly a great social service for a stable future.

If we take the devastating border war of 1998-2000 between Eritrea and Ethiopia as a sample, we realize that seventeen years after the guns became silent and the war-cry was muffled, the aftermath of that conflict is still crippling the communities of the border areas–though the Eritrean side is suffering the most. Unfortunately, the role of the Eritrean opposition, that supposedly should alleviate the problem by ending the Isaias era of tyranny, is irrelevant.

The Eritrean opposition is a continuation of the pre-independence nationalist liberation struggle, but unfortunately, it is immersed in debilitating conflicts. Unfortunately, a sizable number of Eritreans believe Ethiopian officers handling the Eritrean opposition share a big chunk of the blame; another group absolves the Ethiopian officers of any damage on the opposition. Still others list a myriad of abstract causes to explain why the opposition is weak. At any rate, the Eritreans opposition finds itself marred by suspicions and conspiracy theories that are native to that specific region. Naturally, Ethiopians have similar views on the state of the Ethiopian opposition that Isaias has been nurturing and building. Therefore, it doesn’t hurt to address one problem at a time.

The Abyssinian influence on the opposition organizations of the two countries is evident–the elite does not see each other outside its primordial conflicts. The overwhelming number of the elite of the two sections of Abyssinia cannot see anything outside the Amharic-Tigrinya language spheres, and the Orthodox Christian prism. The rest of Eritreans and Ethiopians are always relegated to the role of fueling the mad and costly rivalry, dying in the endless wars that were imposed on them. At this moment, it seems as if the struggle to unseat Isaias is entrusted to the Eritrean highlanders and the rest are consciously absent and not interested in the ongoing conflicts. That doesn’t bode well for the unity of Eritrea.

The above historical realities still play an important role in shaping the current state of our region’s perceptions. However, it is suicidal to choose to live as a prisoner of the historical fallacies. The region needs to be forward-looking, it needs to chart a progressive, aggressive development strategy that would free the region from the historical bondage. That will surely help it tread towards peace, stability and development. But first, Eritreans need to clean their own house.

The following are a few  critical issues that cry for resolution:

  1. Access To The Sea
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    The Eritrean shores are a major issue of contention among Ethiopians who still cannot perceive a “landlocked Ethiopia” while Eritrea sits on hundreds of miles of coastline. Ethiopia’s misguided desire for an access to the sea has greatly contributed to the six-decades history of bloody conflict between the two countries. To this day, some Ethiopian elite exaggerate and skillfully manipulate the issue of access to the sea as a tool for agitation. However, over the last seventeen years, Ethiopia has proved it can thrive without the use of Eritrean ports, while in the same time, Eritrea gained nothing from the ports. The idle ports should be the major concern of Eritreans; the few agitators from both sides should stop using the ports to fuel the conflicts that they think would enable them to seize power in Ethiopia and to keep it in Eritrea. Eritrea has lost huge revenues for seventeen years while its ports are idle. Its unenlightened government has denied the country thousands of jobs and development opportunities. While Eritreans carry the wound of the idle ports, Ethiopian agitators keep discussing the non-issue. To ignore the opportunities that availed themselves to Eritrean ports is an unforgivable sin, and the culprit is the Eritrean government. It foolishly lost sight because no sane business owner shuts the door to 90 million of his customers! Ethiopia should rest assured that post-Isaias Eritrea will not be as foolish, not because anyone can provide guarantees, but simply because it’s logical.
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  2. The Village Of Badme
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    Badme has been the cause of many small conflicts for over three-decades; in 1997 it became a flash-point for a major war where the two countries lost about 100,000 lives. The war created a colossal human crisis: hundreds of thousands of displaced villagers, uncountable homes shattered, and many families devastated. How much would one rationally pay for that desolate real-estate, depends on who is deciding. But certainly, a rational person knows it is not worth the cost. Yet, measured in ego value, it has no limit. Ego doesn’t quantify expenditure–that is what happened in paying for Badme, and the cost is still mounting to this day. Ethiopia seems hell bent on not relinquishing the village without a dialogue to fine tune the borders of the court decision; Eritrea seems hell bent on continuing to scream “Badme” regardless of the expected outcome. In the meantime, the small real-estate holds the livelihood of millions as a hostage. At this moment, any sane person would chose to resolve the issue after a normal situations prevail in the region.
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  3. A Volatile Neighborhood
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    The location of the region in question is in the most volatile spot; a region where fires are mysteriously ignited. Only fairness and equality among all of its citizens can shield the region from the raging fires. The absence of justice exposes the region to greater risks, and considering its surroundings, the risks are serious. ISIS, its affiliates, its clones, and predecessors are locking into the region, and so far the world seems to have failed in containing the savage onslaught and the raging fires. Evidently, the rise of the extreme form of Islamic terrorism has devastated Muslims many folds that of some other sects. The perpetrators of the crimes are Muslim fanatics, while their victims are overwhelmingly Muslims. Their countries are in ruins, their population is impoverished, displaced and scattered. A fringe group is wreaking havoc on the lives of  the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide. Sadly (and Ironically), some consider the victimized Muslims guilty by association. But the foolish victimization doesn’t do anything except corner the victims and thus push them closer towards extremism. Victimizing the victims is not only wrong and unjust, it cannot bring about a solution. On the contrary, empowering them to fight back yields results. Amateurish and hypocritical strategies will never solve the problem but make it worse. Every policy maker should recognize that pushing moderate Muslims to the corner is a recipe for disaster–the entire region needs to recognize this fact.
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  4. The Needed Changes
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    What are the mutually beneficial changes that both Ethiopia and Eritrea need?It is fair to say that the Ethiopian government realizes the huge historical luggage that it carries. So far, in general, the  Ethiopian government has been handling the internal Muslim problems with satisfactory care and tact. However, the pristine Muslim tradition of the region does not need an impetus from Lebanon to preserve itself. Instead, it should be empowered to protect and sustain its traditions and structures. True, over the last few decades, an unpopular, aggressive, fundamentalist strain of Islam has been slipping into the social fabric of the entire Muslim population of the region. Such strains require a concerted resistance by all concerned, particularly the Muslims who should safeguard their communities from instability and mayhem. It cannot be resisted by a government fiat. The general demeaning and negative view towards Muslims in the region needs to undergo a massive transformation with education and awareness building. The paranoid need to heal themselves; hypocrites should be fought with determination. It’s inappropriate to treat Muslims as suspects in their own countries because of their faith. To illustrate this, let’s assume the Muslims of the region forged a serious national interest based alliance to fight their own problems and rid their communities of the fanatics–would it be accepted, just like the Ethiopian-Eritrea Christian relations, or it will be viewed suspiciously? Would the right of Muslims to do so, be questioned or welcomed?
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  5. The Eritrean Opposition In Ethiopia
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    The organized (rather, disorganized) Eritrean opposition forces have been in Ethiopia for as long as Eritrea was independent; their performance has been appalling. Though geography plays a role in the success of an opposition (and the ideal location is operating from inside Eritrea), the Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia does not have a tangible achievement that it can demonstrate. On the contrary, there is a negative influence on the Eritrean opposition; it’s pushed in many ways to adopt Ethiopian strategies that Eritreans didn’t initiate by themselves. Many wish Ethiopia to keep its distance from the entire inter-Eritrean opposition politics. So far, it has failed to do so; and the ENCDC, the last attempt to create a formidable opposition, is on its deathbed unless it’s saved by a miracle. Maybe the fear of the unknown scares the Ethiopian officials, but regardless, they have exacerbated the situation by engaging in overt and covert king making projects. That has weakened the growth and performance of the opposition forces that suffers from serious mistrust within itself, coupled with a meaningless power struggle and hegemonic projects at the expense of the supposedly main reason of its existence, which is to remove the oppressive regime in Eritrea. And by God, each day under Isaias, Eritrea is being pushed closer to the abyss.

The Awate Team hopes the above points will provoke serious debate and discussion among the stakeholders. Since these are sensitive issues, it is advisable that those with thin skin and intolerant characters stay away from such a debate.

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  • Tesfamichael Kidane

    Dear Awate team,
    Notwithstanding the validity of the points enumerated, I think the themed argument mentioned initially deserve a little scrutiny. It seems nowadays fashionable to blame Ethiopia for every sickness Eritrea suffers. Don’t get me wrong, you have absolute right to question Ethiopia, but doing so would have to concurrently involve putting our house in order. Finding a scapegoat for your own sustained failure is simply illogical. In fact, the paranoia about Ethiopia is crippling our thinking that once this issue is brought about, it is a hair raising anathema to some.

    The second issue is the assumed hegemonic fear the Highlanders and Lowlanders harbor towards eachother. I find this instead so amusing. Who is hegemonic against who? Is that the reason why our Muslim brothers are conspicuously absent from the struggle, therefore the salvation of Eritrea is by default entrusted to the Highlanders? If that is the case, then we are in a very serious trouble. But this argument is easily reputable as it gives me comfort to know that my forefathers got along well with our Muslin neighbors for hundreds of years and spoke fluent Saho.
    But if we dig deeper into this issue, one can easily find the origins of the assumed hegemony. Weren’t the early leaders of the ELF: the Idriss Geladewos and company who instituted the flawed policy of “Zemene kiflitat” to prevent the assumed “hegemony”, and consequently massacring Christian Highlanders in those early times? Fast forward to zemene higidef, it is a common knowledge that the dictator, in his usual cannyness, to create resentment towards Muslims, favored the Lowlanders better than their fellow brethren in the Highlands. Is this “hegemony”, you think?
    If the Highlanders are incapable of bringing change – and, I think they are – most Eritreans would be content with the salvation brought about by our Muslim brothers, as far as they maintain stability and respect for their fellow Christians. The Highlanders are as oppressed as anybodyelse in Eritrea, if not more. The depopulation of Eritrea commenced in the Highlands than the lowlands.
    Let’s leave the assumptions, uncertainties an half truths aside and eliminate our common enemy and his herd.

    Tesfamichael Kidane.

  • Solomon Haile
  • AMAN

    Why are some woyanes accusing Hagos Ghebrehiwet and others
    with being Tigrians. They are proud Eritreans. Also what if they are
    Ethnic Tigrian Nationalists. Does that mean anything.
    Should Tigrian Tigrigna not hold government office ?
    You better stop your hippocrite blame or hypocricy and double std.
    Actually I think Hagos G/hiwet and Yemane G/meskel are my uncles !
    AMAN
    Born @ Mai Belaw near Mai Anbessa, Anseba,Eritrea,Ethiopia,Africa !!

    • belay

      Dear Amman,
      You are unique, here, at awat e.com and I appriciate that you are a little bit shy some times, but you seem to hold the master key to both of our countries,problems, solutions, at least in your imagination.
      Now, Mr amman, if you were given day to sort the problem of both countries (Eri -Ethio) what do think should be done?
      I am sure u got one in mind and it could be the one to the end of our problems.
      Please tell me what u think.
      With respect Ambessa.

  • Solomon Haile

    Selamat Awatista,

    Happy weekend to all of you.

    I stumbled to the “be the first to comment…” on
    this article and I must admit I had the kind of feeling you have when you win a
    lottery and simultaneously of perhaps I shouldn’t due to some mental
    “Perhaps I am not worthy and a more learned/respected person than I or a
    priest should bless it first.” I am
    quite sure a few or many if not all of you awatista forumers have encountered: “Be
    the first to comment” on awate.com’s articles and editorials including the
    reserved [Saturday is only for the arts and absolutely no politics] let’s call
    it Saay Day or essSay Day. More than likely, those of you who have had that
    feeling were as gun shy as yours truly numerous times and passed on being the lead
    commenter for numerous reasons including respect for the subject matter and
    knowing your limitations and your abilities
    very well to set the lead tone for an effective communication between Eritreans
    and friends of.

    As I decided to “Set It off” this time with this current awate.com
    editorial, I will tell you now I am determined and in fact have decided to stay
    home all weekend and be the anchor/last commenter of it as
    well by introducing the Third Bridge Option some of you may be familiar with. I
    am quite sure or should I say I am not delusional to think AT will freeze the
    commenting because every Eritrean has finally agreed to bring the long overdue
    relief to Eritrea by accepting THE SOLUTION to finally end the “Mother of All
    Wars!” as the Late Sadam Hussein Dictator of Iraq proclaimed once while waving
    his “Seif Al Dien” sword bombastically from his dictarors terrace – (After all
    Lucy was unearthed and resides in Ethiopia/Eritrea, HoA. The USA’s President
    Barrack Hussien Obama got to see it just a month ago or so.)

    It isn’t going to be pretty simply because even this Eritrean
    web site I respect most of all Eritrean websites and even consider the number
    one contender to date to have lead the change, will be dinged and maybe even
    bruised as well as….. Consistent with the: “A Glance To The Past. …”

    I have read the majority or close to all of the comments and
    rushed home to read even more in order to cap the article as stated above. HTG and Saay never disappoint but thus far Mahumd SaleH’s comment is the
    best share in this discussion for me particularly for the following reason: His
    recommendation to the inevitable to be united opposition parties to adapt and
    be current with modern technologies as well for an ELF and EPLF style
    grassroots on the ground organizing. 2nd
    best that pulled my interest from all that have been submitted for me was
    Tewelde G/Mariam’s.

    Well… I will get to it then. i.e. lots of reading all weekend
    and the introduction to: The Third
    Bridge Option. But first let me recollect SaliH Johar Ghadi’s drunken violinist who prayed for the river to
    mellow out so that he can cross to the other side without success until a
    passer-by suggested: In order for the river hear his prayers, the drunken
    violinist must pray consistently to one spot by running along with it
    downstream …. This is to say that I have thoughts

    1.
    With the new article regarding EDA
    inviting/invited to EPRDF… ,(hopefully this has something to do with “Saay’s
    Day” as we are on the eve of) or should
    I question the integrity of the serial line up of this very editorial
    prematurely. More reading…It is tiresome or to run along the river in these
    modern times of twittering……..

    2.
    The YPFDJ’s Vegas Convention last week. (Where
    my co elected to the 2nd congress of the EPLF congress Elias Amare
    was present — A YPFDJ friend/acquaintance and I discussed the event over a billiardoo
    table at the Red Sea earlier Today. He swore no one gambled and I believe him
    to a certain degree as he is an avid firm believer of the front he is a member
    of.) I learned from him YPFDJ’s four day convention in Vegas last week’s theme was:
    ብብድሆታትና ጥነኢ (ኮኾብ ሰላም, HELP me with this fonts…
    how do you get the Ts character? Ts as in TsaTse and not T as in TeIna.)
    Bbdhotatna TsinEi was the theme.

    3.
    American,
    Chinese and Russian military’s weather engineering programs.

    4.
    SYNERGY and
    Beyan Negash

    .

    .

    .

    Happy weekend all.

    Solomon

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Solomon,

      go to http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/amharic.htm —–lock it capital and press letter S it will automatically put for you ጽ and you can change by adding vowel like e to put ጸ or vowel o to put ጾ but you have to remember changing (pressing) the caps lock to small letter.

      • Solomon Haile

        Dear ኮኾብ ሰላም, የቐንየለይ። I will practice for sure. I don’t know the meaning of the phrase: bbdhotatna TsinEi which was the theme of the YPFDJ annual convention that as held in Nevada about an hour away from Vegas. My ብልያርዶ acquaintance who was wearing this year’s YPFDJ T-shirt response to my “what was the theme?” first question was such. I am hoping you help me further with the meaning of the second word or may be even iSem can beat you to it. The Eritrean version of American Black folks barber shops, i.e. Tsigab yeHwat betting around the billiardoo, was not conducive earlier Today to explore it further.
        (Now that I have to think in Tigrigna too 🙂 why is it we say last a week instead of last a month or last a year or last a decade when saying Thank you in Tigrigna? i,e. instead of የቐንየለይ. ይውረሓለይ, የአምተለይ… ) Thanks again kokhobay.
        Solomon

  • Nitricc

    Hi All, I have a few comments for the big guns. If PIA did not leave Badime to the weyane, do you think we will where we are now? I say NO! all this things could have avoided. But, but, but, why did PIA leave Badime to the Weyane? I don’t have any evidence but from reading and listening interviews of PIA Right after the independence; the man was talking not only working with Ethiopia but “integration” on some form of “autonomy” i.e. i can only conclude, leaving Badime was as show a good will and a gesture of peaceful future coexistence. was it the right thing to do? some of you will say, yes and some of you will say No and both of you will be right. How could be on act can be right and wrong at the same time; you ask?
    you see; what PIA did was, the wrong thing in the right way. it is right because who doesn’t want to work together to the greater good for this two sisterly nations. what is the point arguing over a toothless village while planing to join in some kind of arrangement to integrate. and it was wrong to leave your sovereign land to leave out for what you paid dearly.
    now, you can understand, how PIA committed the act of doing wrong in the right way.
    now, let’s consider the consequence of the wrongness of the act. war broke out and over hundreds of thousands people died as the result of the wrong action; because the lesson is, no matter how you do it, wrong is wrong and there no a right way to the wrong thing.
    After the war broke out, again, PIA took another action, this time around, he did the right thing in the wrong way.
    I let the big guns chew on it and hopefully someone will illustrate what that is.
    the moral of the story is, there may be possible to do the wrong way of the right thing but there is never, never the right way to do the wrong thing. at the end of the day, wrong is wrong, it does not matter how you do it.
    for those of you advocating normalization, dialogue, five point TPLF crap; ahead of the EBBC ruling; simply you are doing advocating for the wrong thing to be done on the right way. yes, normalization, dialogue and cooperation sounds great but how about the rule of law and the verdict of the court? let’s do the right thing. the thing that a future generation of the two countries can live in peace. Do the right thing for the sake of right! if you side way the ruling and enter to the dialogue; then you are committing crime against the future generation of Eritreans and Ethiopians. just you know!

    • Semere Tesfai

      Nitricc

      Yes, you’re right, you can’t do the wrong thing the right way. But there is a good explanation why people try to do the wrong thing the “right” way. And the explanation is (for the most part) due to blunder and shortsightedness. Some people see three steps ahead before they jump, some people see two steps ahead before they jump, some people see a step ahead before they jump, and some people just jump at the small of bacon. Now, let me explain few historical facts to make my point.

      From 1975-1991 the Amara Dominated Ethiopian Derg’s motto was “Forever, Red Sea will remain Ethiopia’s northern frontier”. And give the Amaras credit. They fought to the bitter end. At the end they lost the war, they lost 1200 km sea cost and its ports, they lost their dynasty, they lost their pride………… or simply they lost everything. What was the Woyanes doing when the Amaras were losing lives, limbs and treasure? They were doing worst than nothing (in the eyes of the Amaras). They were bleeding them siding with their “enemies” (Eritrean fighters).

      When the Woyane’s crowned themselves and sat at Menelik’s Palace, the humiliated Amaras asked them: Why did you single-handedly (without the consent of all Ethiopians) let Eritrea go? Who gave you the mandate? Why didn’t you negotiate for Ethiopia’s sea outlet before you let Eritrea go? We were a regional power with far reaching influence, now, how are you (we) going to be a regional power without an access to the Red sea?

      And every time the Woyanes tried to justify Eritrea’s right for independence, and every time they tried to sell the idea that the whole Red Sea coast, Assab and Massawa belongs to Eritrea – they sounded like Haile The Great selling Woyane’s Five Point “Peace” Plan. And Finally to stay in power and to silence their Amara critics, they did the obvious: Woke-up one morning and became የነፍጠኛ ነፍጠኛ. The rest is history.

      Now to the other side of the Mereb River:

      From 1978-1981 ELF was busy defending and at times bleeding to protect Eritrean civilians and defending Eritrean territories at the Badme border region. And what was the EPLF doing then? They were worst than bystanders – they were defending Woyane, badmouthing ELF and at times bleeding it. At the end, by EPLF Woyane coordinated and combined attack, ELF was driven from the field. Well, after they defeated ELF and after they controlled the whole country, of course they have to govern, they have to protect their citizens, they have to protect the territorial integrity of the nation they are governing. But still very defensive about their past.

      And what are the opposition to EPLF/PFDJ/GoE (mostly former ELF fighters) doing now? Of course worst than being spectators. They are bleeding the nation, they are encouraging the young to leave the country, they are conspiring (with Woyane) against their nation, they are doing everything in their power to sanction their country, they are doing everything in their power to deny the country any foreign investment……. and they are blaming everything, even it it doesn’t rain on the PFDJ government.

      The moral of the story: Today, as if it is not their country, the Eritrean opposition don’t have any concrete position towards the Ethiopia occupied Eritrean territories. For fifteen years, they never demanded Ethiopia to pack and leave from Eritrean sovereign territories. But by some miracle, if they ever land in the presidential office in Eritrea, the Eritrean people are going to demand an answer. And they don’t have one.

      Being an opposition is not without responsibility and without accountability. One day the Eritrean people will demand an answer.

      Semere Tesfai.

      • haileTG

        Dear AT

        What am I supposed to do with this guy? I can roll him in his mud and make him lick it face down, if it wasn’t out of respect to the forum and its participants. It is not my problem he wants to blubber his dirty mind out, but when he is acting disrespectfully by calling me out lying through his teeth, can you at least tell him to stay away from me unless he can substantiate his lies?

        Thank You in advance

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hailat,

          You don’t have to go to their game, the only game they know. Stay away from them don’t engage them. They are here to show their arrogance, a never ending arrogance, not even to show sympathy to the ordeal of our young. To Semere Tesfai, tell him to send his daughter and his son from their comfort home to sawa and do the servitude or forced labor, then can come back to you to argue on the issue. The hypocrite of PFDJ supporters is mind boggling.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Peace!

            Dear Emma,

            Just out of curiosity I heard you several times complaining for not focusing on main issues and even accusing others as diversionist whenever you dislike the subject, and ironically, when seriouse debate rages on, you are the first one to take a backseat and become a cheer leader. Don’t really know why?

            Regards

    • Solomon Haile

      Awatatista Nitric,

      As I was jokingly threatening with my YPFDJ acquaintance earlier Today in Oakland “I will destroy you guys unless you change…” and he bobbing his head up and down and inviting me to do so, I tell you we had a good time at a local hangout. We mention Filmon Zerai who went toe to toe with SJG etc,, etc… Now I am very suspicious of you not only because you have rushed to shred electronic papers, (Have you ever seen the movie “The Devil’s Advocate” with Al Pacino.. They did that or was it The Firm), but also you strike me as the guy who would gamble in sin city with top shelf Glen Levitz spirits by sneaking out and driving an hour to the it while serious strategising to save Merkebna tTiHil ala are being explored for four days. That is if you were there. What moral of the story do seriously think you can pass on for a collective discussion? I just didn’t get the moral of the story part or even all of it. Unless you only cut two out of the four day seminars and discussions at the YPFDJ Vegas shindig and this is one of the….

      I detes Quid Pro Quo but since Teg. MaHmud SaliH said to me on an earlier discussion to: ጉአ በርበረ ላኣኽ ምስ ግመለይ፡ ተስፋይ ብግምባር
      ቶሮንቶ ን NIT ነቒሉ ኣሎ and sure enough HTG seemed very angered by Tesfay, now I know have narrowed down MaHmud’s Tesfay… yadaddamean!

      No moral of a story… Happy weekend Nitric

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Dear Nitricc
      I read your inputs with interest. Remember non of us holds an executive position. The key of war and peace is held hostage in both capitals governments seats. You have to understand that whatever we exchange here is nothing but opinions and suggestions aimed at heightening our awareness of what’s going on back home. In a normal country these sorts of opinions would still have been occupying the airwaves, opinion pages of newspapers and social networks. Nothing is wrong with suggesting your government to do whatever it takes to settle a conflict peacefully, or at least explore ways of settling it peacefully. I would have said that even under fledgling democratic political state such as the one prevailing in Ethiopia. Calling for normalization is akin to denouncing warmongering. Citizens have a responsibility to make war a distant possibility. Pugnacious attitude and showy acts of patriotism will not fair our country’s future better. I’m not referring to you, but to some of our most informed awaista who know the gravity better than you and me, yet try to amplify PFDJ excuses for reasons I could only imagine.
      Here is the final and binding say to you nitrickay:
      – The “final ad binding nature of EEBC ruling is nonnegotiable. Eritrea can not break it. Breaking one clause or article would mean breaking the whole court ruling.
      – Ethiopia’s current stated position is one that says it accepted it in principle. It calls for talks in order to implement it.
      -Knowing that the current situation is unsustainable, knowing that PFDJ belligerence has cost us the pressure international/USA could apply on Ethiopia
      – Knowing that the war ended in 2000, and no country has made an active move to change the current situation by force; meaning PFDJ despite its bellicose talk will not attempt to regain occupied pieces of land and impose the court ruling (I’m against any use of force to settle the border, by either side).
      – Therefore, recognizing the fact that border bluffs are used by PFDJ in order to continue enforcing its mad policies which are at the core of making our once promising country barren and its youth hopeless.
      With the above grim picture lurking in our mind, it’s just natural to ask for exploring the possibility of settling the border issue in a peaceful and normalized climate in ways the spirit and letter of the ruling is respected, a lasting peace is achieved, and both sides chart a new era of normal neighborliness. It’s actually the opposite which is unnatural for citizens who have experienced the wrath of war. It’s unnatural of a citizen to echo and applaud a toothless government’s dangerous posturing. Remember, the young men and women who will senselessly get butchered in another round of “senseless war” deserve the same opportunities you are enjoying.
      For your information, normalization is nothing but opening your offices for business to the other side. There is nothing that says normalization should follow the settlement of the conflict. Normalization is a sign of an intent. If either or both sides have an intent of confrontation, even the completion of demarcating the border will not oblige them to normalize. Countries can break their normalized relations for myriads of excuses. By the way our PFDJ has put Eritrea in a dangerously prejudiced situation that even if it changes its stances, the supposedly guarantors will not put meaningful pressure on Ethiopia. There was a chance when Ethiopia was in a more complying mode, and the interest of the international community was at its highest, but our government blew it off by trying to cower Americans through its blackmailing tactics hosting FBI wanted Somalis, and trying to swim against international currents.
      Now questions to you, I want you to answer them today (don’t tell me you will be back). They are easy ones.
      1. If the toothless PFDJ tell you it will solve it militarily what would you say?
      2. If the toothless wayane continues on its refusal, PFDJ will continue the same excuses resulting in more exodus of Eritreans. What other magic due have to break the stalemate? Let it wait for generations is not an answer. The situation is not sustainable. If we were doing fine and were able to absorb the cost of maintaining the states quo, you could be right. But it is what it is Nitrickay. You are watching the whole situation unfolding.
      Last remark: The ruling obvious shortcoming was the lack of clear enforcement tools. You see, a rule without an enforcing mechanism is just meaningless.
      Regards.

      • Nitricc

        Mahmuday hahahahahha i have saved all of your inquiry to me and they will be answered each one of them. That is my word. just waiting for the free time. the job is becoming a work lol.

        Anyway; Mahmuday; let me answer this two questions, you said

        “1. If the toothless PFDJ tell you it will solve it militarily what would you say?”

        Absolutely not. that will be the dumbest thing to do. it is simply unthinkable, let alone to acceptable.

        “2. If the toothless wayane continues on its refusal, PFDJ will continue the same excuses resulting in more exodus of Eritreans.”

        To tell you what i believe Weyane is weaker than PFDJ. call me crazy, but according my observation; yes, Weyane is much weaker than PFDJ. How long can the refusal last? as far as Eritrea, the price is paid. too late to little. once the rule of law is undermined and compromised, you will never live in peace. the bigger and stronger countries surrounding you will make you a target when ever they have internal problem. The way i see it, it is much saver to be protected by the rule of law than by guns and tanks.
        Besides, let’s say, we dialogue with the Weyane, what makes you think they can hold their words? They can not even up hold what they sign and agree in front of the world. the only reason they are asking for the dialogue is to make the EEBC verdict void. once you enter in to dialogue, you can’t revert in to the court’s decision. so, my take is, Eritrea needs to move on with her political business. the government needs to ignore this border things and leave it to us. we will deal with it, in the right way.

        • betri_weyn

          Mr nitric your points holds water but there’s a series question you need to answer…
          The EEBC ruling clearly said wedi-afom is the aggressor,invader & attacker so … In future what is the guarantee of another aggression & invasion? Ethiopia need guarantee in future because the shabia government cannot hold their words. Still They are swimming in the denial world. who ignite the war,already the international community knows who is the spoiler,aggressor and invader.
          the only solution as Africa unions said last January take seat and talk how to implement the verdict and the root cause of the war so Ethiopia need normalization before anything else.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Betri_weyn. I think you are missing the main point. if the main point of the war was about Badime and Badime is legally a sovereign land of Eritrea, then, how is Eritrea to be the aggressor? how?
            you see, i said how PIA did the wrong thing in the right way when he left Badime at the hands of Weyane. and then i left to the readers to how PIA did the right thing in the wrong way. what i was implying was that PIA was right to stand up to the Weyane’s incursions after incursions but failed to follow the proper channels. He should have cried foul and notify the UN the EU even the worthless AU. the day Badime was awarded to Eritrea, PIA is vindicated from most charges. simply put!

          • betri_weyn

            Dear nitric Ethiopia refuses to implement the EEBC decision because it has no reasonable guarantee that such action will alter the aggressive, adversarial strategic posture of Eritrea.When Ethiopia repeatedly calling”normalization & negotiations”
            Even if the Eritrean gov. Want to negotiate before the afternoon. Ethiopia.gov can not trust the wedi afom and his policies in grounds, well known @invade and negotiate# so we must be ready when we go to the table wherever and whenever we have to put on the table *betri-weyn… Let’s remind you who was not abide by international law Ethiopia is doing the right thing in the right way as
            “The verdict says
            The evidence showed that, at about 5:30 a.m. on May 12, 1998, Eritrean armed forces, comprised of at least two brigades of regular soldiers, supported by tanks and artillery, attacked the town of Badme and several other border areas in Ethiopia… [The] weight the evidence indicated that the Ethiopian defenders were composed merely of militia and some police, who were quickly forced to retreat by the invading Eritrean forces. Given the absence of an armed attack against Eritrea, the attack that began on May 12 cannot be justified as a lawful self-defense under the UN Charter.

  • Fanti Ghana

    merHaba Dr. Equal Justice for All,

    Thank you for the unparalleled unselfish, perhaps, maybe undeserved, adjectives ya muAlem.
    Peace!

  • Tewelde G/mariam

    He who does not remember the past is doomed to relive it.

    Who ,after falling out with his family members, would seek a helping hand of a neighbor from whom they had just resurrected their resident through long and bloody fight? Only irrational people would do that. And so it can be said that the so called ” Eritrean Opposition” would not have wasted over twenty years waiting woyane’s treacherous promise had they been otherwise.

    However, if we remind ourselves of the main reason ELF in 1981 was easily routed out by the allied forces of EPLF and TPLF, we can perhaps avoid the idle speculation by coming face to face with the hard truth. And to blurt out the truth is curative. In 1981 ELF was not defeated by the allied forces; it was rather led to defeat from within. The reason? ELF leadership was split, and army without leadership canot withstand war, much less gain Victory.

    The corrosive elements, the subnational issues, ethnic, religious, language etc., that led to the disintegration of ELA are the same elements that are corroding the opposition today. And woyane, who has already made its sinister desire against sovereign Eritrea explicit, would not be expected to act in a manner conducive to our unity.

    Besides, we must never forget that within the opposition there are groups that have been working since before independence to split Eritrea along Highland/ Lowland divide. The EDA Constitution, with its clause, for ethnic self determination up to cessation, can be viewed as collaborative ploy between woyane and this group to legally dismember Eritrea through referendums.

    The way forward to dislodge isaias afewerki and to salvage our country is to dissociate ourselves from the retrogressive groups, to relegate the subnational issues to the back burner and forge unity behind the 1997 ratified Eritrean competition.

    My solution to our ethnic concern is the following:

    I will take Kunama as an example.

    In the Kunama land, the Kunama language will be the official language. All students in Kunama land,irrespective of their ethnicity, will learn in Kunama. All institutions in Kunama land will speak in Kunama langauge.

    The same pattern will follow in the rest of our ethnic groups.

    Each ethnic group will also preserve and cultivate its faith, culture, history as it sees fit.

    The central government will allocate the budget.to each ethnic group. The natural resources of the country will be under the central government.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Equal Justice for All

    “Is this the same Semere Tesfay that I might have seen walking on the Desert of Denkalia one day with his Unit led by Vet Tegadalay G Gaim?”

    No sir, I’m not the Tegadalay you’re talking about. I don’t know if the one you saw in Denkalia is the same Semere Tesfai, but there was one Semere Tesfai in Kebesa (I think political cadre). I know this because one time (1979) because of a name mix-up (between me and him) there was some books and collection of documents related mishap in the economic bureau.

    Anyway, to tell you a little about myself, I’ve spent few years of my Ghedli life in Senhit and Sahel but for the most part in the trenches of Agordet, Barentu (Duta), Teseney…… all the way to Emni-Hajer, Humera, Rawyan, Lugudi and……. I’ve also been to MiMhdar #8, #9 and #10 but never to #11 and #12.

    “ዘይመተ ይራኸብ” – Good to hear from you – Seb Qedem

    BiThaika Semere Tesfai

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Equal justice,
    you see, I don’t go much in to details about what Eritrean and Ethiopian governments arguing about. I don’t have the key to recognize the so called “Eritrean government” as representative of our people. that key is lost as this government is illegal in first place. now, I am not saying Ethiopian government is legal or illegal at this moment let Ethiopians say it. PFDJ’s era will not solve Badme’s issue or anything else. I strongly believe we should have one strong party that will force PFDJ move from our head and face the border issue and other internal issues.

    regarding our ports – the ports are supposed to source of huge economy for those years as it is not only Ethiopia who can benefit for example if it is free market place. Then PFDJ is only using Badme issue to kill the nation.

    regarding opposition, it is to much exaggerated differences they have, but PFDJ is playing the game inside. I support you Idea of having new clean one. Yet, the old parties are also very important, cleaning can be done inside each of them. I have some information that cleaning has started as PFDJ spy members are already known.
    hey, you post shows me that you have old hate on Ethiopians (correct me if wrong). holding grudges is one way of blaming others and that is a huge energy drain so take care of this point. one day Ethiopia and Eritrea will forget all the past and they will cooperate to the distance they forget the border between them. let us create love.

  • Abi

    Hope
    Don’t wake up the moderators. Your comments would be the first ones to be deleted.
    You know it happened several times before.

  • haileTG

    Hi EQJ

    There are two types of ex-Jebha that I come across. One are the likes of Aman H, SGJ and many I know in person who mean well to Eritrea and its future and the others like Semere Tesfai who are nothing more than a bitter and revengeful of the past. He wish Eritrea be broken and its future destroyed just to see his nemesis “EPLF government” fail. That term to PFDJ is borrowed from his own concocted malady laden pronouncement in the past. Only yesterday he was barking to put down legitimate political quest by the lowland section of our people, now he is jumping up and down to keep the fires of war burning in the south, with your kind of habit in engaging without reading and thinking, bitter individuals like him get the mileage to confuse and fan war and distraction. All that to prove “EPLF government” is stupid. What a farce! I am surprised of those flip flops who were cursing him yesterday to jump on his side on this. You see, Eritrea is cursed with abundant enemies from within to fear anything worse from outside.

  • Dear All,
    Almost 15 years after eebc’s decision, the border remains a hot and a central political agenda for the Eritrean government and the majority of Eritreans. On the contrary, the Ethiopian government has cleverly lured the genie of border dispute with an ambiguous five-point plan, and has put the genie back in the bottle and forgotten about it. At least it seems so. Thus, the border issue has ended up to be a problem much more important (a life and death Issue) for one of the two parties.
    The Eritrean government has given it a major importance than it is worth, because it serves its purpose of perpetual stay in power and enslavement of the Eritrean society. Knowingly and unknowingly there are many who are funning the issue, of course, to PFDJ’s satisfaction. The main question is, is there a solution in sight? Is it possible to force Ethiopia, either militarily or through diplomatic pressure, to make it get out of the region, as things are today? If not, what then? If there is a mountain ahead of us, which we cannot climb and go to the other side, what do we do? We go around it and continue our journey.
    Border disputes are common; some more than a hundred years old. Shouldn’t
    Eritreans leave the border problem until the right time comes? Shouldn’t they work hard first to get rid of the magician (DIA), who has unleashed the genie of destruction in the name of the border dispute, thus destroying the very fabric of the Eritrean society, depicted explicitly by HTG, with the words, “demarcate or disintegrate”?

  • sara

    Dear
    all those ports for Ethiopia i will say to you -Ethiopian -”masshaalah” i wish you good , but i also would like you not to bother/worry yourself about eritrea-
    Eritrea has chosen its destiny in 91/93

    • Abay

      Dear Sara

      The problem with not to “bother/worry…about Eritrea” is there hardly come any articles on Eritrea that does not have any reference to Ethiopia. This article, a good one by the way, by itself has a lot about Ethiopia and Eritrea. We worry because many points including port issues referring to Ethiopia are there. It is too bad that Ethiopia is not using your ports. It is a blessing in disguise that we were forced not to use your ports. Now, we have far better options and there are ports that are better equipped to serve Ethiopia than Assab and Massawa. You have to tune to new realities. Even after the relations between the two countries normalize, (they will it is just a matter of time and I am sure you will have Badme in due time) you will have the hard job of upgrading infrastructure and efficiency. You will have a tough competition with other ports to sell us your services. Competition will include not just price, but efficiency, ease of transportation, equipment and all that. So we stop worrying if and when Eritrean affairs are conducted without reference to Ethiopia. Sorry.

      To the authors of the article:
      Dear Authors,

      The article is vey good. It is bold enough to discuss sticky points. Saying this, some comments I have:

      “The region needs to be forward-looking, it needs to chart a progressive, aggressive development strategy that would free the region from the historical bondage. That will surely help it tread towards peace, stability and development. But first, Eritreans need to clean their own house.” We have development strategy with all our neighbors engineered by our far sighted Ethiopian leaders, only that Eritrea is not involved. Look at what is happening between Djibouti and Ethiopia: New railway connection, electric grid connection, water supply connection the list goes on. A first class tarmac road is under construction between Kenya and Ethiopia. Road communication, between Addis and Khartoum, you make it in the second day bus trip to Khartoum. Electric supply to Tanzania from Ethiopia negotiation going on and the list goes on. Look at our current relationship with Somalia. We are free from the historical bondage of animosity. The Somalis now call us Ethiopians “brothers in need” and that is what we are to the majority of the Somali population. Somalia has a lot of miles to cover but with our assistance including that of the other East African countries, they have started and irreversible journey to peace and stability. I don’t mean to show off our development in Ethiopia, although I don’t mind, but just to point out that your suggestion, a great one by all means, is on going. I am confident that in the near future, Eritrea will be in the team. Only that we need to work hard to stem out animosity and suspicion not just between Ethiopia and Eritrea but also between Eritrea and its other neighbors. Trust me, Ethiopia is not the only country to suspects Eritrea.
      On the opposition issues, it is not like Ethiopia gives them the recipe for conducting their businesses. It is up to the opposition to be strong or weak. We shelter Eritreans as long as they are not threats to our national security including the opposition. The weakness or strength is really a matter of Eritreans. Identifying the problem is half the solution.
      I thank you.
      Abay

      • sara

        Dear Mr. Abay
        thank you for your cordiality in your comments, but i am a bit perplexed when you say “it is a blessing in disguise that we are forced to use other ports” and at the same time you also mentioned you would like to have access to Eritrean ports etc, well- sir despite the ugliness of war and its repercussion, don’t you think Eritreans too are happy for Ethiopia has now alternative ports it can use , isn’t that also a “blessing in disguise” that the ports issue are not going to be any more a menace for both countries/ most of all for Eritrea knowing that all the past and present leaders of Ethiopia have used it justify their war and occupation of Eritrea.
        Mr. Abay, Eritreans do not view their “sovereign” sea-land- and air from economic perspective only.
        with respect!

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear AT

    Thank you for this important call. The editorial team has been calling for a breakthrough, and most articles that have been penned by different distinguished writers and published on this site have been about a breakthrough. It’s disappointing 15 years now, we are in this vicious cycle of reminding ourselves that the train has not yet moved from the station. And AT keeps sounding the alarm. It’s become an unfortunate expected call. I have to thank the AT for not giving up; and there is no way back except to improve what we have got. What we have got is not the number of organizations, most of them have been chronically crippled, but the zeal not to give up on Eritrea. As long as we keep this spirit burning, we will surely get a way out of this quagmire.

    Few personal observations (again, these are ideas I have said in the past, but I will be gentler this time)

    -The leaders of the organizations, for the good of the people, need to do a thorough assessment of their works.

    -They need to look for skilled people from within their respective organizations that will give them new perspective and energy in areas of grass roots recruitment, adapting new technologies, conflict management and negotiations/bargaining. For the sake of the people, they have to transfer responsibilities to new generation of leaders.

    -Once this is done, I’m sure the new generation of leaders will devise new ways of communication. They will set new mission statements/programs, and reprioritize their objectives. Most of the packages and grudges tied to ghedli era feuds will be off the load.

    – Stay relevant: in areas touching the nation (eg.COI, Geneva and other cities demonstration…); for god sake, some websites of important organizations have not been updated for a quite long time, among them the umbrella ENCDC (http://www.enc4dc.com/)
    – It’s time they have realized that they can’t answer each and everyone’s demand; they can’t rally each faction; and they can’t be legal representatives responsible of solving Eritrea’s outstanding, binary/intergovernmental or international problems. They are not expected to solve existing sociopolitical puzzles although it would be good if they have clarity on them, but their mission should be the creation of a political climate where Eritreans could discuss all conceivable interrelations and political arrangements through their representatives. Their mission should focus on helping Eritreans bring change to themselves. Their mission could be seen either as an agent of change where they effectuate the piercing of the darkness or the toppling of the regime, or a catalyst one where they play a major role in enabling domestic forces gain a space to organize.
    The question of Ethiopian involvement
    – Think as an Ethiopian. Ethiopia is not expected to fund an organization that’s not expected to repay it. In an ideal world the interest of Ethiopia and Eritrea should never have been exclusively narrated from each other. But after what happened in the years after their separation and the bloody war that followed, it’s naïve to think that Ethiopia will nurture a nationalist organization. For those who saw the sacrifices of these two peoples, it’s just saddening. But that’s the reality. So, how do we get out of these cycles. Simple. An honest assessment, a real internal debate among their members (I can’t imagine why the sensible members are quiet when their organizations are led by “political lepers.” Perhaps they need to seek assistance from the civic, activism and media societies which appear to have made noticeable strides in exposing PFDJ and getting international ears. Basically, they should come back to their constituencies (the people) and do active engagements. Have you seen any of the leaders in this forum?
    Ethio-Eritrea/border issues
    – If we are serious, we have to call for normalization. The border issue has reached a point where good will, political boldness and a visionary leadership is needed. I don’t expect both governments are ready for the move.
    – The rest are all issues of good neighborliness. I don’t think Eritrean Muslims will be unhappy because our relation with Ethiopia improves; Eritrean Christians are not unhappy because we have relatively good neighborliness with the Sudan for ever.
    -What’s damaging, I think, is the voices that narrate Eritrea and its people as Habesha. Eritreans are proud of their Habesha brethren but they are not all Habesha. We seek good neighborliness with Ethiopia not because it’s Habesha but because it’s our neighbor, a neighbor that we have had a long history with, good and bad. We also seek that good neighborliness because that’s the way out of poverty for the region. We have seen what war can do, let’s give peace a chance to show us what it can do.

  • Papillon

    Hey Nitricc,

    Hope you won’t take this as patronising but you impress me as a young guy with a genuine concern and care for Eritrea. I really want you to watch this documentary from start to finish with an ample intent and I want you to ask yourself a question—when exactly went wrong and I want you to keep the answer to yourself for it will give you a perspective not only about present day Eritrea but for years ahead as well.

    http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=_tQoFxJVPDE

    • Nitricc

      Hey Papi, the link is not working. well, it is taking me to a bunch of youtube videos and i don’t know which one you wanted me to watch. please repost it when you get the chance.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Selamat,

    It is now evident that the border issue has reached a dead end. It cannot be resolved as long as both regimes are engaged in getting rid of each other either directly or indirectly via opposition groups of each other. But the Eritrean opposition coalition, if there is any such coalition, needs to outline a clear policy on how to resolve the border disagreement in post Isayas Eritrea. In my opinion, the EEBC ruling is internationally recognised legal conclusion, and hence needs to be adhered to, in addition to agreeing on settling difficult issues of contention through dialogue.

  • AMAN

    So what I have come to learn is that many people in the ruling and opposition
    parties have become red faced and wanted to kill themselves because I was
    was not deceived by the lies they were putting it on the medias to brainwash
    those with little knowledge and understanding of real and virtual realities ?
    What a hillariously funny but foolish thing to hear !
    Now that both came to agree that they were going the wrong way or path and
    doing wrong; they get angry somebody refused to be bullied and chose not to
    die for their wrong actions which ofcourse they came to regret it now after so
    much damages to lives, livelihoods and families leave alone their hard earned
    professions, career or bussinesses competing against so much odds and obstacles.
    Born FREE……..Living FREE………….Dying Free citizen…………………..AMAN !

  • Amde

    Selam Awates,

    I would like to commend you for bringing this topic to the fore. I have a number of issues with some of the languages and assessments you have made, but let me just say the following on the specific topics you have enumerated:

    1) Access to the Sea.
    I will be on record saying that had independent Eritrea incarnated with the southern (Assab) half staying Ethiopian, the 1998 war would not have happened. Assab is a curse on Eritrea. I would like you to imagine what that would have been like five years later (after it has sorted itself out), for the EPRDF, for Eritrean and Ethiopian businessmen, for the relationship between the two regimes, for the economic policy options chosen etc… At the root of that war was hegemonic competition between the EPLF and TPLF. Whatever we may say about either party, I don’t think they can be called completely irrational (at least at that time). Accordingly, I do not believe EPLF would have dared invade a neighbor X times its size if it did not feel that an effective economic and military encirclement was an operationally realistic and feasible aim. People being people, the odds are quite high that it will remain the strategic temptation that will keep being a burden to future Eritrean generations. This is the security logic that drove Ethiopian rulers (Haile Sellasie, Derg, EPRDF) especially post-Fascist invasion. It is a lesson I believe future generations of Ethiopian rulers will have to keep learning in some fashion, that Ethiopian security is tied in some manner to the coast. In any case, this means Ethiopia will most likely not use the ports – even after “normalization” – until the security issue is resolved with Eritrea. What nature this will have I can’t say, but it won’t just be purely commercial arrangements for port use. It might be re-assuring that no other regime will be as foolish as the Isayyas one, but as they say, words are cheap and something a bit more concrete may be required. This will require of course a whole new relationship with a probably new Eritrean regime. Which leads to the next unfortunately titled section….

    2) The village of Badme
    I wish that in 2015 you would not have characterized the what happened 18 years ago and all that has transpired since as simply ego over a small village. The simple fact is TPLF had war declared on it by people for whom and in whose interest it had bled and paid immense political price for. After another disastrous war, it won on the field. It then spectacularly bungled the legal case, thereby losing what it won on the battle field . If and when the EEBC decision is implemented, it will be primarily Tigray and Tigrayans that will lose and lose bad. This is obviously a bad (perhaps even fatal) political outcome for TPLF. Since EPLF was more interested in the political defeat of the TPLF than
    in the resolution of the border issue, it gambled on the ridiculous “final and binding” line, and we know what happened. However, if anybody on the Eritrean side is thinking Win-Win, they should be asking themselves “How can we set this up so TPLF does not feel that it lost?” Melles had proposed a good formula for resolving this issue, in acquiescing to the decisions on the west and the east, and discussing the resolution along the densely populated central sector. It still amazes me, that even after so many years, this reasonable basis has not been picked up as a way to close a bad chapter between the two sides. I always thought Isayyas might decide to do that and have a lot of his problems resolved – but it is too late for him. The question is, what if the opposition picked this up? What if they articulated it as “There was a choice to be made between sacrificing the nation for regional hegemonic ambitions, and relentlessly pushing for a deal that closes this terrible chapter so we get our children back. Isayyas made his choice and we now find our children fished out of the Mediterranean. Just as one finally chooses to divorce a bad spouse, or sell a bad business in order to stop further bleeding, we choose to have a deal that will close this chapter for good.” Realistically, the EEBC decision is dead – simply because it is a terrible political document. It won’t be executed by the TPLF, and the TPLF is where it’s at with Ethiopian and Tigray policy.

    3. The Region and steps forward
    Saay in his responses to HaileTG twice used phrases of finality (“The Rubicon has been crossed” and “The die is cast”) on the vertical polarization of Eritrean opposition. I respect his judgement in his using these words in a public forum. I don’t want to put words in his mouth, but it is perhaps not unreasonable to extrapolate this to mean that this also applies to the body politic and perhaps even to the Eritrean society at large. But what are we to think of these terms in the context of Isayyas in his twilight years, and an opportunistic ISIS preying on areas where state control has ceased to exist?
    There is some text in here about how the Ethiopian side is favoring/disfavoring one opposition personality over another. I don’t understand the naive tone of indignation at the the interference in Eritrean affairs. Frankly that is what all countries, politicians etc do – try and shape outcomes in a way that best maximizes one’s interest. I am rather afraid that this article’s description of the Ethiopian effort shows it to be that of politicians still jostling for organizational influence, not that of diplomats and statesmen truly engaged in the long term and strategic interest of Ethiopia and the region.
    More than anything else, the consequences of state collapse in Eritrea cannot be easily calculated, and easily contained. Right now, this is held at bay by the Isayyas regime, and Isayyas himself. And that’s it. I don’t think as Ethiopians we can afford to blind ourselves to it. It seems there are political parties and groups lined up and ready with their demands for the post-Isayyas era. But it looks like they are ready to demand something FROM some kind of established authority which all assume will be there in the weeks and months post Isayyas. There are no such guarantees. Neither the opposition’s behaviour nor the Ethiopian government’s actions seem to have a sense of urgency about it. Perhaps they know something that gives them re-assurance. When the Derg was overthrown, both EPRDF and EPLF had experience in running governmental functions, so they stepped into the void with relative ease. It is not so obvious in Eritrea this time. At this point, people (and the opposition) should be publicly and loudly discussing about the nuts and bolts of governance the day after Isayyas dies. Why would the person defending the border stay at his post? Would National Service people disappear overnight, leaving for their families? How many would be expected to leave for Ethiopia/Sudan within the month? 10%? 75%? Can banks be guaranteed to keep cash? Would people get their salaries paid? What would all these people need to hear and be reassured so they at least stay at their posts, keep performing their (legitimate – not forced) duties, until the new order is known and is more or less established?

    Amde

    • saay7

      Selamat Amde:

      No you didn’t put words in my mouth, but my mouth said “my sense is”–that is to say, I can’t point to a body of evidence–other than: the taboo associated with “sub-national” organizations (political groups, civil society) is gone because there has been an epic failure of the national organizations (PFDJ and Opposition.). In fact, the ELL specifically cites (a) the failure of the political organizations and (b) “everybody is doing it, why not us”, to explain why it was set up. This will, in my view, create a race of “X is organizing and Y must organize” which has the logic of an arms race.

      Consider The Pencil as a cry in the wilderness to slow down this momentum and to give the National Organizations one more chance — one more — to wake up from their slumber.

      saay

      • Amde

        Hello Saay,

        I can’t help but think that under a different set of circumstances, devolution to smaller and more targeted organizations is more organic and healthy. I have never really been comfortable with grand organizations. If the state of the State of Eritrea was healthy, would you not be out there calling “Let a thousand flowers bloom!”?

        • saay7

          Hey Amde:

          Gigantic China had “let a hundred flowers bloom” and u want to give small Eritrea “let a thousand flowers bloom”? I have bad memories of that: Isaias, a student of Mao, used the “let a hundred flowers bloom” when it became to private media (2000-2001) then, just like Mao, said that this is chaotic and people are complaining about chaos and need a strong hand. Can we just settle for like 7 flowers?:)

          saay

  • haileTG

    Selamat awatista,

    This topic, Opposition in Ethiopia and the latter in Eritrean politics, is the other side of the coin of the debate we’ve had on Arabic, lowland/highland, Islam/Christian.., recently. Just as the last topic had been discussed frankly and debated hotly, so deserves this one too. I will make brief points on the three main component parts of the issue at hand:

    1 – Policy on border demarcation vis-a-vis opposition gains

    2 – Ethiopian interference vis-a-vis opposition unification

    3 – The role of the Eritrean people vis-a-vis their record of performance

    1 – Policy on border demarcation vis-a-vis opposition gains

    The Eritrea-Ethiopia border demarcation stalemate is all too clear to everyone to warrant any more regurgitation of the technical details. There are key distinctions in the way Ethiopia is handling it and that of Eritrea’s handling. The latter has hinged its very survival on it. It incurred incalculable losses, i.e. be it diplomatic, military, economic and social ruins to defend a right position in the wrong way. Such an approach by Eritrea need also be seen together with the disastrous steps taken by the PFDJ in the international arena. From refusing to cooperate in Somalia and denounce al Shabab, evicting UNMEE (first by subjecting it to humiliation of deporting western only service personnel, denying fuel and finally kicking them out), its self isolation from regional bodies and directly confronting the UN on many occasions in an undiplomatic and street level manners (remember when T/Gerahtu got the dress down by the UNHR chair in June), the Eritrean regime has done everything possible to lose the slightest of sympathies from any quarter. The intl. community not only passed six censuring resolution in as many years against the country but also humiliatingly gave a deaf ear when Ethiopia openly attacked the regime in 2012. The world community has also stripped the right of the country to procure defense related equipment under Chapter VII, threat to international peace, sanctions.

    Against such reality, it is bothersome when some of us advice the opposition groups to compare notes with PFDJ to formulate a resolution proposal to the problem. The PFDJ developed solution model “demarcate or disintegrate” is irresponsible, unrealistic and has already been fully bankrupted thanks to PFDJ. On section 3 of this comment, I will also refute the false promissory note that the Eritrean people will then support the opposition, if only the latter parrots the what has been reduced to PFDJ’s broken record, “no border no nothing”.

    The opposition needs to carefully weigh the situation and develop a meaningful proposal for solving the issue, not because it will attract PFDJ crazed fanatics or other fly-by-nights, but because the brotherly people of Ethiopia and Eritrea deserve peace, development and security as good as everyone else. It is because the close kinship brotherhood of the border communities need to be restored, it is because the the current trend will lead to sectarian and regional conflicts inside Eritrea and above all it is because our region benefits more from peace and cooperation than war and animosity.

    However, in order for the opposition to come up with a workable plan, it needs to have the consent of the people. And this is where the logic of “have a position on the border and then people will follow you” falls apart. It is obviously putting the cart before the horse, if people don’t follow them and give them their consent, how are they supposed to put a plan forward?? If the the idea is that they will need to adopt PFDJ’s “demarcate or disintegrate” approach and people will follow them, then why would would the people need to change a new leader on their path to disintegration? Can’t they just stick with PFDJ and continue the current fast track slide down the path of disintegration? So, it boils down to a mere case of dishonest (intentional or unintentional) condition of simply perpetuating the status quo.

    2 – Ethiopian interference vis-a-vis opposition unification

    The opposition groups are said to be interfered with by Ethiopia to account for their dismal performance there. And when the opposition move to the west, they are said to be interfered with by PFDJ, to account for their dismal performance there too. Such chronic case of shifting responsibility and not owning up to once own short coming has been an established modes operand for a long while now. If an opposition has been subjected to the most scathing and deriding attacks for simply going to Ethiopia, how on earth is it going to be emboldened to represent our best interests there? If you demoralize your child, speak ill of them in front of others, deny them the basic necessities, why does it surprise you that your child had been thoroughly abused by you and finds it hard to succeed and bring you pride? let’s face it, the parent is an abuser and raised an abused child. Why would Ethiopia want to undermine an opposition that is under massive abuse by his fellow delusional patriots? Before wishing Ethiopia to be a brother to your brother, try to be one yourself is the message. Before you expect Ethiopia to listen to your brother, try to listen to your brother, before you expect Ethiopia to be sympathetic and humane towards your brother, try to be one yourself. Let’s shed false pride and put the mantle of responsibility, indeed “I am my brother’s keeper”. It is within such depth of understanding that tolerance is born and spaces widened. If PFDJ is destroying Eritrea, why would anyone lift a finger to do the same? If you, me, everyone of us are doing our level best to dehumanize one another, why would anyone do anything to interfere? Especially, when you’re accusing them of that being their objective, and you are excelling at it at the same time!

    3 – The role of the Eritrean people vis-a-vis their record of performance

    The previous section dealt with the way we have become our own worst enemies. Interestingly, we never run out to find someone or something to take the blame. When disabled tegadelti were mowed down, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence. When the G15 were eliminated, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence. When IA brought in terror suspects as Dahir Aweys and confronted the inl. community, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence. When all kinds of abuse was meted out on the youth, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence, when tragedies after tragedies struck Eritreans from Sahara to the high seas, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence. When the country emptied and huge refugee camps are set up in neighboring countries, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence. When the country is cut off work, water, electricity and the meager economy collapsed, the Eritrean people recorded a history of silence.

    And finally, there people who still think if the opposition was to talk this way or that way with Ethiopia, then the Eritrean people will finally click and rise up. I am afraid, I don’t hire anybody without looking into their employment history. You be the judge. What remains to be done is not to give a false promissory note that if you do this or copy PFDJ “demarcate or disintegrate” you shall get that. NO. That is the wrong way to paint the nature of the challenge. The truth is that opposition forces need to unite because that is a better course of struggle, they need to try to understand the reasons for the Eritrean people not seeing hope and relegating themselves irrelevant and work out a strategy to educate them on the relevance of their participation in the struggle. They need to push aside the disingenuous demands that hold no promise and are only advanced ignorantly or with anterior motives.

    Conclusion

    We’ve now arrived at the moment of truth, the truth that we alone are responsible to our current predicament and ultimate fate. The sooner we get to grips with taking responsibility, the higher the chances that we can salvage the current situation. Otherwise, we can only have ourselves to blame, I guess that is what independence means? No?

    Regards

    • saay7

      Hailat:

      I accept your invitation to be committed to frank and honest discussions about issues that matter to us. Here are my frank and honest points in no particular order:

      1. Whether it is a literate and advanced society (like the US) or a pre-literate and developing society (like Eritrea), there is always an elite of thought-leaders who mold the opinions of the people. In nation states, (in contrast to city-state of Athens or the city-states that Tocqueville chronicled in “Democracy in America”) the people are too busy earning a living to support their families to bother with politics. If you agree with me, I hope we will use that to focus our wrath on the thought-leaders and the elite and not the Eritrean people when we are chronicling wrongs that were done (Mai Habar, Tegadelti demonstration, Jehovah’s Witness rights violations, Muslim teachers, G-15, etc, etc.) in Eritrea.

      2. Independence, in its political context, means self-government, self-rule, autonomous decision-making. I think you and I butted heads on this one once–when I was talking about how the opposition leaders are lacking vision and the ability to exercise sound judgement–and you said the real problem is that people use their mind when they should use their hearts. I don’t know if there is a science to get people to be more in tune with their heart but there is vast science to how to make sound decisions. You and I agree that the PFDJ under the chairmanship of Isaias Afwerki has made a series of bad decisions. We may disagree as to the reasons for that–I happen to think its judgement is clouded by emotions: anger verging on wrath (that the world is indifferent to it): it is debilitated and it keeps doubling down, hoping that with each bet it will win back all it has lost. By the same token, the Opposition leaders–our leaders–have made a series of bad decisions in their campaign to win the hearts and minds of the Eritrean people:

      2A. The Jane Fonda Syndrome: It is NOW commonly accepted in the US that the US was wrong to go to Vietnam and take sides in its civil war. But back then, when actress Jane Fonda had her picture taken on top of Viet Cong tank, she was condemned as a “sell-out” and there were no Americans, years later, who said, “It turns out we were wrong and you were right.” The poet Maya Angelou once wrote: “I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”. The Eritrean Alliance, under the chairmanship of the controversial Abdella Idris (RIP) was born in 1999 in Addis Abeba, when Eritrea and Ethiopia were in the middle of a bloody war, and I don’t think Eritreans will ever forget how that made them feel.

      2B. The Five Point Plan: When the whole demarcation issue–as clear cut as anything gets–was being re-negged by Ethiopia (a terrible decision), the Eritrean opposition had a choice to either stand for the truth, or to have no position, or to support Ethiopia’s Five Point Plan. It supported Ethiopia’s Five Point Plan. Another case of terrible judgement.

      2C. It Gets Worse. If you look at the Eritrean opposition as being broadly defined as an alliance of lowland Muslims and highland Christians, this is what we have now. The lowland Muslims have no position on demarcation: it was an Abyssinian feud–from 1991-1997 they tried hegemonic policies (against our specific demands) and from 1998-now they have been in a state of war (they don’t care about us and it has nothing to do with us.) Some in the highland Christian opposition (the YG School: refer to Maekebay, Mizaan, Girmay Yebio) are saying, wait, wait, wait! Ethiopia is our strategic ally, it is our rear guard from the Muslim/Arab horde, and only the suicidal and stupid Christian highlander would be criticizing the Ethiopian government and pressuring it. Do the lowland Muslims criticize the genocidal government of Al Bashir? No! So think!

      In the Eritrean opposition, it is no longer a question of what is good for Eritrea, but what is good for the segment of Eritrea that a person feels passionately about.

      The Rubicon has been crossed.

      saay

      • haileTG

        Selamat saay,

        Before I used “the Eritrean people” as reference point, I debated it with myself whether to narrow that down to an actual segment (because people, society… tend to be abstracts) or just generalize it as “people”. You’ve done well to narrow it to the “elites” and I would go further to clarify my notion of “elite” includes “All the elite” than just the vocal elite. With that in mind, we’re clear on #1

        2a – We know that the opposition in the Sudan went to Ethiopia for obvious security reasons. The 1999 formation of the Alliance in Ethiopia is indeed being looked at under different context and circumstances at this time in our history. Again, many new groups have emerged there since, mostly in the last few years. Above all, it has now become the case that escaping to Ethiopia is so normal (even it comes with a thank you song in Amharic:). Under such a context, to consider the act of an organization some 18 years ago has something to do with current confused reaction can’t be realistic. May be that was a politics at the time, but hardly serves the bases to analyze the situation today.

        2b – Was the 5 point plan the subject of approval by the Eritrean opposition groups? Is there a documented case of an Eritrean political organization that has set about to garner support and rally the people around the 5 point plan? Which organization? The best seemed to be vocal criticism of PFDJ’s handling of the issue. Again, the key point here is formulating an Eritrean equivalent of the 5 point plan with the best interest of both people’s welfare and regional peace. To do that, you need popular participation and without the latter there is no credible grounds for anyone to take them seriously.

        2c – This is the most concerning section of all, and I am afraid it has been so all along. Within the context of such disunity as you ascribed in this section, in fact, it would call into question the whole bases where the article above try to make vis-a-vis Ethiopian interference. This section reveals a serious structural flaw that is potential hazard of any well meaning initiative. I am fully aware that it is a valid depiction of the reality as we see it, and I am not disagreeing with you there. However, given we both sign up to accepting that reality as you aptly put it (the Rubicon has been crossed), we have no legs to stand on arguing external interference in our main handicap. The YG writings in the last decade has undoubtedly wasted valuable time and confused an awful lot of people about the reasons for opposing the IA regime. However, given that we have now arrived at position where PFDJ would by far deliver far bigger damage in a day than YG could ever do in a decade, the reasons for opposition have become self evident.

        We need to believe that the opposition does evolve, situation changes and politics of today isn’t the same as yesteryear. Hence we need to answer for today’s assertions.

        Regards

        • saay7

          Hailat:

          Let’s just focus on last point for now, and save Eritreans from themselves:). Otherwise, we are talking about 1999: the Eritrean oppo was Sudan, which hadn’t reconcile with Isaias yet and the Alliance (AENF then) went to Addis because it was beckoned by harbenya weyane.

          From YGs volumes, what’s really clear is that his constituency is not Eritrea but highland Eritrea. And the impassioned pleas of his supporters are also focused on the interests of highland Eritrea. (A still not baptized Eritrean highland league.) All of that of course has “redel fiEl”, with each segment now saying “well, THEY started it!” I am counting on ur smarty pants brainiacs to gets us out of the path to Somalia.

          saay

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hailat

          I love the following statement, because I have been advocating for it (if the Ethiopian government comes with its five point plan, come with your own five point plan to the round table): “the key point here is formulating an Eritrean equivalent of the 5 point plan with the best interest of both people’s welfare and regional peace”. That is the language of a diplomat that consider the complex political nature of the region; above all the un escapable relationship of geopolitics with the domestic politics of the countries in the horn. A diplomat tries to navigate under those circumstances to find a solution that includes the interest of his country within the framework of multi-national politics and the rule of the game. The Eritrean government in particular and the elites in general failed to act within the conventional norm for any given political game. The question is can we change our way of engagement.

          2C as described by Saay (our lowland position) is a fact on the ground and any attempt to prescribe a solution without that in mind is futile to say the least.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

    • sabri

      Selamat Hailat,

      As always your input is interesting. You propose the opposition come with its own 5 plan. Why? Is it because the final and binding document is not satisfactory? Not accepted? Or to discuss how to implement the final and binding document which is Ethiopia’s position? Please clarify. I don’t understand.

      Just because the document handled badly by pfdj doesn’t mean it is bad. The final and binding document is not the prosperity of pfdj. It is an important national document. Thus, the opposition should give an ample interest to it. And the primary motive shouldn’t be to attract many supporters.

      Regards,
      Sabri

      • haileTG

        Selamat Sabri,

        (saay, I will comeback to your last point later, I haven’t closed it yet:)

        Sabri, let me start by addressing the why part. To start with the opposition 5 point plan hasn’t been unveiled yet, so we can’t dismiss it yet. It may well have a better proposal than the current one. The current one isn’t satisfactory because one of the party to it found it so (i.e. they say they accept it in principle but it is not comprehensive enough for them). The matter isn’t a national document, rather international. It needs both parties for it to have a life. From our perspective,it is good because it deals with the border from technical side alone with no other commitments or strings attached, it is also bad because the very survival of the nation is made to depend on it. If you had known by some magic hindsight that the result of the EEBC will come at a cost of total obliteration of Eritrea’s youth, complete loggerheads with the world, involvement in dangerous regional conflicts and an imminent descent into regional and sectarian strife inside Eritrea, would you still have said it a good resolution? Perhaps not. What if the verdict was such that it demanded both sides to satisfactory address their normalization issues and demarcate as per EEBC, would you have said that is a worse verdict?

        Ethiopia is a party to the document and it is saying that it is not satisfied to go along with it independent of parallel negotiation. Now for us to say that is a good document:

        1) We have a means at enforce Ethiopia to comply

        2) We have sufficient diplomatic support to force Ethiopia to comply

        3) We have managed to render the issue “can wait” and are making progress in nation building

        4) We can afford to sustain whatever the cost may be

        The document, as I said, isn’t exclusively belonging to Eritrea. It belongs to both countries. It is as good as the commitment of both countries to it. That is like money and bank, the money is as good as the bank is prepared to honor it. If it doesn’t you may have sentimental attachment to it but it isn’t worth a dime.

        So, if the primary interest isn’t to attract many more supporters (assuming that would turn out to be true), what else would really be the primary interest? Is it the quickest way to resolve the deadlock as it stands? Is it the only viable solution? Or is it not to be seen as if one is coward towards Ethiopia, i.e to maintain a confrontational posture to prove the opposite?

        The EEBC document has technical advantages and legal backing, the reality is however those advantages are eclipsed by the sheer magnitude of the potential cost to be able to enforce them. For the opposition to have a 5 point plan, it needs to rid off itself any fear of crossing anyone’s red line in the interests of what is good to Eritrea in the here and now. Such a bold move, however needs the consent of the people, which brings us back to the starting position.

        Insisting that either Ethiopia accepts final and binding or we’ll completely abandon the country, isn’t much different than the PFDJ approach of either Ethiopia accepts or we’ll jump off a cliff. We’ll also be dishonest to look at the verdict outside of all the affecting issues that are connected to the mater (polarization, repression, isolation…). It shows a degree of political maturity for the Eritrean people to play ball the right way in this and other issues.

        Regards

        • saay7

          Hailat:

          Everything you are saying is persuasive except for one minor thing: the Eritrean opposition immediately accepted the 5-point plan put forth by Meles Zenawi. (Sorry, I have no link.) And, no, it wasn’t just an “international” document: it was passed by the Ethiopian National Assembly overwhelmingly. The 5-point peace plan was “welcomed” by the international community, simply because it was a change from the two-years of outright rejection shown by Ethiopia. The international community did not include the US, which was underwhelmed by the proposal.

          So, to put in in black-and-white, the 5-point piece plan, which was developed by Meles Zenawi to silence the then strong Ethiopian opposition (this was in 2004, months before the 2005 elections) who were scoring political points about the EEBC, was given a polite “no” by the US, an encouraging murmur by the UN, and an enthusiastic “yes” by the Eritrean opposition. And within months of its unveiling, there was a massive escalation across the border–with Ethiopia redeploying troops and tension increasing: the ICG had a report about it: in short, it was all bad. And the Eritrean opposition–in my name and your name–lent its name to it.

          saay

          • haileTG

            Merhaba saay,

            Background ref: Ethiopia’s 5 point peace proposal

            1. Resolve the dispute between Ethiopia and Eritrea only and only through peaceful means.

            2. Resolve the root causes of the conflict through dialogue with the view to normalizing relations between the two countries.

            3. Ethiopia accepts, in principle, the Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission decision.

            4. Ethiopia agrees to pay its dues to the Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission and to appoint field liaison officers.

            5. Start dialogue immediately with the view to implementing the Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission’s decision in a manner consistent with the promotion of sustainable peace and brotherly ties between the two peoples.

            The above was formally notified by a letter to the UNSC.

            Now, is your “enthusiastic yes” of the opposition to mean that they didn’t oppose it, or as it would appear, it involved one or more of:

            1) They submitted a letter of petition to the UNSC to endorse it

            2) Actively pressured the inl. community (EU, AU, UN) to help them to implement the above peace plan

            3) Endorsed that as part of their charter as an “only” way forward

            4) Organized wegah tbel leyti to express their elation 🙂

            BTW isn’t “domestic” considerations the reason both took the stand they did? Wasn’t it Haile Dru’E and G15 were saying to let the border issue to one side and move on with nation building? Isn’t IA brutal suppression of rule of law justified (by him) through the position he is holding on to, i.e. let’s demarcate or disintegrate? Why is the presumption that Ethiopia had domestic considerations in making the proposal considered an issue here? Isn’t the very fact we’re discussing this intended to formulate proposal that takes our domestic situation into consideration?

            Again, if a given opposition organization was to consider that this is a better offer than a potential war and distraction (hypothetically speaking, since we have no incriminating link:), why is that a reason to be considered more potent than a mere idea floated and discussed by its members?

            The reality of the situation hasn’t changed in 11 long years since the Ethiopian proposal. Since then PFDJ hadn’t manage to come up with anything tangible other than endless sit in and sleep out, outside the UK Downing Street. The opposition never came up with an alternative because it hasn’t been mandated to do so. G15 will be 14 years behind bars with most probably long passed away. People discuss reviewing referendum or splitting the country in half, with a much more ease (as if we paid cats and dogs to gain it and not humans) yet, wish to kneel down in front of EEBC “the most high” as an ultimate yardstick of citizenship. I say let’s pressure more frank discussion. On wards and forwards 🙂

            Regards

            PS: all those question marks aren’t questions in a strict sense, thus don’t feel you’re overwhelmed. Consider it a hot headed Italian manner of speaking:-)

          • saay7

            Ahlen Hailat:

            Yes sir, more frank discussions, onward and forward. Of course, frank discussion includes frankly assessing our opposition leaders, no?

            Now, with your list….I knew you had a sense of humor but I didn’t know you were hilarious. As a South Sudanese once said (you have to imagine a South Sudanese Arabic accent here): dehak’teni wa ana ayan. (iSem will translate.)

            1: No, they didn’t submit a letter to the UNSC because they have never submitted a letter to UNSC. The most they have done is to speak to the assistant deputy undersecretary of African Affairs at the State Department:)

            2. Nope, no actively pressuring anyone because they haven’t actively pressured the AU about their very own reason d’etre: that there is no political space for them in Eritrea.

            3. Yep. But not in the charter, it was in one of their post-meeting b’Awet Tezazimu communiques:)

            When I gave the background, I was trying to tell you that the 5-point peace plan was a face-saving proposal by the Meles Zenawi government for its own political life (not necessarily what’s good for Ethiopia.) It was already getting slammed by the UN (resolution after resolution) for rejecting the EEBC for 2 years, and then it started getting slammed by the then powerful CUD (Kinjit) and so it came up with something for its own political survival. An independent Eritrean opposition would have said, “good for you, but none of our business” but it endorsed it. That is the point here, I thought: that the Meles Zenawi government was coming up with solutions for its own viability, the Eritrean opposition didn’t.

            The opposition had many options, one of which was to pull a Nixon (“secret plan to end the animosity”). Another would be to say that Ethiopia doesn’t have a partner for peace and they have confidence they can get Ethiopia to abide by EEBC and address its concerns. Another would be to come up with their own 3 point plan. Yet another would be to be totally silent on the issue. But it chose the absolutely worst one.

            saay

          • Equal Justice for. All

            Dear Saay:
            Very mesmerizing debate indeed!
            It reminded me your 1999-2000 debate with the famous Dagmawi!!!!
            Welidom enda Younis!
            Inshallah to be reunited in New Eritrea soon!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Equal for.All,
            .
            It reminded me the same era too. Tell me, the way saay7 is addressing the opposition’s acceptance of the Meles’s 5 point plan, how is it different from PFDJ?
            .
            K.H

          • Equal Justice for All

            Dear KH:
            Consult Prof SAAY!
            The PFDJ might be “right” too! about the Opposition!
            Remember that Saay could be PFDJ minus PIA!
            How about that?

          • Abi

            Hope Nefse
            You know cousin Saay better than anybody else.
            Equal Justice Now!
            Equal cousin lehulum!
            Hope at last !

          • Rahwa T

            Dear Kim Hanna,

            Our old friend from Awate.com, Mr “Hope”, is telling you that Professor Sal’s stand is the same as that of PFDJ’s. I fully agree with him.

          • saay7

            Hi Rahwa:

            Not exactly. Here’s how PFDJ interprets Sir Elihu’s para from his 16th very frustrated report and here’s how I interpret it:

            PFDJ Interpretation

            That boundary, as delimited by the Commission, and subject only to the two qualifications mentioned in para. 12 [dealing with Zalanbessa*] above, constituted the final and legally binding line of the boundary.

            What remained to be done was the physical demarcation of the line on the ground by the
            placing of visible markers at appropriate locations. The Commission accordingly moved on to the demarcation phase of its activity, having already appointed a Chief Surveyor and a Special Consultant and opened Field Offices. The Parties were consulted and their views were taken into account in the formulation of the Demarcation Directions which were promulgated on 8 July 2002. At that stage, neither Party suggested that the Commission had, or should have, a power to vary the boundary in the course of demarcation or that there was any need for more than limited technical discussion between them before the demarcation could begin and be carried to a conclusion. Direction 14A of the Demarcation Directions specifically stated:

            “The Commission has no authority to vary the boundary line. If it runs through and divides a town or village, the line may be varied only on the basis of an express request agreed between and made by both Parties.”

            +++++++

            And here’s how I interpret it:

            That boundary, as delimited by the Commission, and subject only to the two qualifications mentioned in para. 12 [dealing with Zalanbessa*] above, constituted the final and legally binding line of the boundary.

            What remained to be done was the physical demarcation of the line on the ground by the
            placing of visible markers at appropriate locations. The Commission accordingly moved on to the demarcation phase of its activity, having already appointed a Chief Surveyor and a Special Consultant and opened Field Offices. The Parties were consulted and their views were taken into account in the formulation of the Demarcation Directions which were promulgated on 8 July 2002. At that stage, neither Party suggested that the Commission had, or should have, a power to vary the boundary in the course of demarcation or that there was any need for more than limited technical discussion between them before the demarcation could begin and be carried to a conclusion. Direction 14A of the Demarcation Directions specifically stated:

            “The Commission has no authority to vary the boundary line. If it runs through and divides a
            town or village, the line may be varied only on the basis of an express request agreed between and made by both Parties.”

            +++
            See the difference? I believe that in the interest of peace, dialogue is NOT inconsistent with EEBC and there was no reason for Ethiopia to rail at it (and refuse to pay its dues) and for Eritrea to be so anal and literal about it and prioritizing embarrassing/trapping TPLF over bringing peace to its people.

            saay

            Nitricc, you will be happy to know that EEBC calls Zalanbessa “Zalambessa.” Does that make them Dedebit? 🙂

            http://www.pca-cpa.org/S_2005_142_16th%20Report_20050307(1)6e85.pdf?fil_id=315

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Saay, Rahwa T.,

            I am an expert on this.

            Rahwani,
            Do you remember about the friend I had who can only process one (the first) sentence at a time? That is what Saay is trying to say about PFDJ. I haven’t had a profound laugh like today at my own joke a few minutes ago.

            PFDJ can only see the first half, and Saay can only see the second half. Talk about ‘kilte Tsilulat!’

          • Rahwa T

            ከመይ ፋንቲ ነብሲ,

            This discussion between saay and Haile TG was another interesting lesson to me. To be honest, I have difficulty in grasping the main message saay wants to convey. It is good that both finally brought it to an end (thanks to the PM), saay finally used easy English. It was also good that TK & Eyob were not involved here. ሓዊን ሓሰርን ምኾኑ ። እንቋዕ ኳ በዚ ሓለፈ።

          • saay7

            Selamat Rahwa:

            Don’t listen to His Fantiness: anybody who laughs at his own joke all day is a day away from a judget committing him to that place where people wear strait jackets. You have heard how emphasis on a word can give different meanings to a sentence? For example let’s take this classic, which has 7 different meanings depending on what one stresses

            I never said she stole my money.
            I never said she stole my money.
            I never said she stole my money.
            I never said she stole my money.
            I never said she stole my money.
            I never said she stole my money.
            I never said she stole my money.

            Similarly, in the massive EEBC language and the clarifications and reports that its president filed with the one, one can find interpretations that would either make dialogue possible or impossible. I think it makes it possible; the PFDJ thinks it makes it impossible. That’s our divergence.

            On the Eritrean opposition’s role (and here the Eritrean opposition refers to the Ethiopia-based EDA), The Pencil had said:

            Though geography plays a role in the success of an opposition (and the ideal location is operating from inside Eritrea), the Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia does not have a tangible achievement that it can demonstrate. On the contrary, there is a negative influence on the Eritrean opposition; it’s pushed in many ways to adopt Ethiopian strategies that Eritreans didn’t initiate by themselves.

            Its adoption of Meles Zenawi’s “Five Point Peace Plan” was one such example. At least Meles Zenawi introduced it to Ethiopia’s parliament (EPRDF owned/controlled), at least he gave interviews to Ethiopian media to explain why it makes sense (media EPRDF controls.) In contrast, the Eritrean oppo endorsement of the “Five Point Peace Plan” just showed up one day, and just as mysteriously as it had appeared–like the “Sana’a Axis”– it disappeared.

            Similarly, at Gedab News, we have learned that a speech was given by the EDA at the EPRDF Yellow & Red Convention: good luck ever finding that speech published at any of the EDA websites.

            saay

          • saay7

            Dear Eyob:

            I know you are going to come roaring at my dig of EPRDF’s “Red & Yellow” Convention. It’s Saturday, so a video. A kid spoofed Wiz Khelifa’s instant classic “black and yellow” and called it “red and yellow”. I know you are not into hiphop but this is all I could think of when I saw the pic of the EPRDF Red and Yellow convention. It’s Saturday so a video: “Red and Yellow”: A Wiz Khalifa parody.

            https://youtu.be/xA-ipIB7lcs

          • Abi

            Saay
            Actually the place looks like yeEsepa misreta . It looks like they have something in common. at least the yellow and red cherqacherq. You remember the red cherq with yellow hammer and sickle?

          • saay7

            Hey Abi.net:

            I think the colors were in tribute to the flag of the host state of Tigray, a flag which is (by coincidence of course) exactly the same as the emblem of TPLF. We discussed this and EVEN TKifle thought that was a bad idea.

            If you want further confirmation that TPLF and EPLF are twins separated at birth, the Eritrean flag is also the EPLF emblem with one concession: it replaced the yellow flag with olive branches, those that were embedded in the federation era Eritrea. But not green olive branch but yellow olives branches. I am not a farmer but even I know what a yellow branch and a green branch signify. Over a decade ago, an awatista described the yellow branches in a red bed as “dead leaves on blood.” That damn red and yellow again.

            saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            Yellow branches? Are you serious? You don’t give away this kind of information for someone like me who never believed in your couse for struggle . Nevere!
            Yellow branch is a symbol of eventual fall. No wonder your independence is dead on arrival. It was an unwanted pregnancy after all. It should have been aborted long before the due date.
            Now I am in a mission to save you all before the dark days of winter arrived. I have never seen a yellow branch stay on the tree for long. It is a fall season in eritrea right now. We don’t have time to procrastinate. GET BACK ON THE GREEN TREE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
            You are all welcome.

            Saay, I told you revenge was coming. Delicious when cold!!!

          • saay7

            Hi Abi.net:

            You appear to be unclear on the meaning of revenge: did you design the Eritrean flag?:)

            And I wouldn’t be bragging about symbolism if my country’s flag has a pentagram in it. You do know that’s one of the symbols of devil worship. Besmeab bel.

            But seriously, “flags” to me are a lot like “national anthem”: they are an acquired taste and most of them are bad. For example, I am sure there are people who are very moved by a flag that has a rooster in it (Uganda.) It’s not the inherent value of the flag or its legal status but the flood of memories, sentiments it brings to people. That’s the only way to explain, for example, why Eritreans in the “justice-seeker” camp waive the State flag. And that’s the only way to explain why supporters of the ELF still waive the green olives on a bed of blue (semayawit lemlem) flag. And that’s the only way to explain why Iraqis still waive a flag designed by Saddam Hussein. This is why I can’t be a politician because I don’t have that somber-on-demand or sentimental button.

            saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            May be I was so impatient for revenge.
            No, I didn’t design eritrean flag. If it was my wish eritrea will never have a flag. The arenguwade bicha qey bandira is enough for all.
            What is this pentagram thing? I don’t get it. It is called ” ambasha” in Amharic.
            Saay, I was expecting a bombardmentd from you. You let me go easy. Thanks.
            I’m still expecting a colder one. Go easy.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abye,

            Too bad that I am the one who’d tell you about the history of the Eritrean flag…

            In 1951/2 When the UN decided to be their “care taker” government, it gave them a flag that is sky blue with green olive branches…They loved, loved that flag and when Ethiopia took it down in 1962, they got so “disappointed” and went to war to “restore” it. They died for it, only to replace it with an EPLF flag, and as an after thought, they decided to take a piece of emblem from their UN given flag (the olive) and incorporate it by removing the yellow star that was on the EPLF flag and replace it by the olive branch. Then rethought about removing the yellow star, because they became so fond of it, during their thirty year war, and felt it was too hard to let go. Even though, they at the begging, they were really in love with the sky blue, UN provided flag and went to fight for it. That love I guess, faded and replaced by the yellow star, and when the time came for the yellow start to go and a piece of the UN provided flag needed to have a come back, they also wanted to savor a piece of the out going yellow star so they decided to make the green olive branch, which UN gave them with its own color, sky blue, they decided to take the olive branch with the yellow color to commemorate the removed star… God! That was tiresome, isn’t it? Read it again you’ll get it… 🙂 Now, I will duck…I see a lot of people to stone me with huge stones, for what I just said… 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyob, Eyob, Eyob, Eyob:

            You know the Al Pacino line in Godfather III. That’s my answer:

            https://youtu.be/UPw-3e_pzqU

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Hey, that’s what you get for messing with my pentagram.. 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            I will to have come back and saayducate you because, its riddled with mistakes, as usual:) And I will give authoritative sources so renew your library card.

            saay

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            i like the green olive branch. It shows hope . We should adapt it instead of the ambasha.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            The Hambasha.. 🙂 It’s a long time, since I heard that thing discribed as an Hambasha.. 🙂 I used to hate that thing, too. I learned to like it and at least started to live with it. I don’t know, when you were in Ethiopia lately, but a lot of people, especially those who felt marginalized in the past really think it represents them… I am not politicking I am really telling you my observation…When the design came out, that is how it was discribed to them so they identify with it a lot. Therefore, I don’t think we have much choice, but honor it as it is..

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            Now we are in agreement: a flag is an acquired taste. But once people acquire the taste for it, they are completely irrational: wrapping it around themselves, waving it, singing to it.

            You know those snarky reporters for BBC and The Economist, and the other British papers who write snarky things about Africans? Well, their great grandfather wrote a piece about how the British Military Administration left Eritrea and in it he has a snarky one liner about how Eritreans (not the UN but Eritreans) ended up picking a flag that looks so much like the UN emblem. I will tell u all about it when I am all serious and riled up. Right now I am watching some Ethiopian chick destroy her competitor—by a full one second:)

            saay

            PS: I call your Hmbasha “stars-and-strikes”. And it is a pentagram: a star inside a circle. 🙂

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            Honestly, I care less what is on the flag. As long as my people have more ambasha, dabo, hibist, qocho….
            If you ask me my choice would be the design of GERD. when I see that dam, I see more dabo.
            Yehodam neger endatilegn.

          • Dear Abi,
            I think that you should care, because it seems that the emblem is more important than the flag itself. The following is an excerpt from Wikipedia;

            “In 2009, the Parliament of Ethiopia passed Proclamation 654/2009 (The Federal Flag Proclamation), which prohibited firstly amongst 23 other provisions “use of the Flag without its Emblem”, as well as “to deface the Flag by writing or displaying sings, symbols, emblems or picture”, or “to prepare or use the Flag without the proper order of its colors and size or its Emblem.” While most offences were punishable by a fine of “3000 birr or rigorous imprisonment up to one year,” the first offense, mandating the usage of the emblem, received an
            increased penalty of “5000 birr or rigorous imprisonment up to one year and six months. “This replaced the 1996 Flag Proclamation, which made no mention of offenses or penalties.”

            As you see, the flag can land you in prison for one year or makes you poorer by 3000 birr, while the emblem will cost you more, one and half year and 5000 birr, respectivelly.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            I think you are missing my point. I am
            Not saying let everybody put anything on it. No. I am saying as long as it is decided by parliament or whoever responsible, I care less if it is a lion, ambasha, flowers, olive branch, dove , anything . As Mele said I care more about behind the flag( cherq) than what emblem it has or doesn’t have. One exception will be a yellow olive branch. It is a definite NO!

          • saay7

            Abi,

            You lose again. Listen to these Eritrean kids (breaking news: median age in Eritrea is 19) describe the yellow olive branch means to them. These is a great Abraham Afwerki song that these kids, all Diaspora Eritreans, interpreted for their generation. Hope Jacky doesn’t steal thing song too. Actually I dare him to 🙂

            http://youtu.be/yDJFHjWVncY

            saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            Green — development
            Yellow— peace
            Red– bravery
            In case you don’t know , it is the ethiopian flag. The oldest in the world and thriving.
            Yours is the youngest and already wilting as evidenced by the yellow branch. I suggest you change your flag to white , carry a big rock on your back and come back home before it is too late.
            Lij yaTefal, Welaj yiqir yilal.
            YeTefaw fiyel tegegne! Believe me it is biblical proportion.
            Who is jacky? You mean jack ass? I don’t know him. You know I hate a thief.

          • saay7

            Hi Abi:

            Are you saying that yellow, for any plant, is sign of death? Well, then, you might want to check out the emblem of EPRDF which was designed by the guy who invented the Hubuchbuch meal. I was going to say the design is busier than a bee–but then I remembered the bee is the sign of meto bemeto elections. But it is busy: it has a torch, a star, a machine gear and a wheat stock all slapped together by a third-grader. Guess what the color of the wheat stock is. You won’t answer because it is used to make dabo and you are all about dabo. Hodam.

            saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            Nice try . You made it juicy/crunchy!
            The dry wheat shows the harvest. The torch is of course the fire. Put them together you will get qolo.
            In case you forgot, qolo eyeqoreTemu eko new ezih yederesut.
            It is fitting.

          • saay7

            Hi Abi:

            Ok, fine, you forced me to reveal a secret why the olive leaves in the Eritrean flag are yellow first of all, we call them golden not yellow. Now, you know that the olive tree is huge in ur least favorite part of the world, Middle Eastern culture (which, incidentally, includes Israel: I am not going to tell you Moses special treatment of olive tree growers: they were exempt from National Service.). An olive tree can live in hostile environment for hundreds maybe thousands of years (like Eritrea.) The reason we used golden and not green olive branch/leaves is because the green olive leaves are the logo of the UN and they appear in the coins of the U.S. and UK. And an independent Eritrea was mad at the UN, UK, USA so we came up with golden olive leaves. I am reading from the minutes of our secret meeting just before we raised the flag at the UN so let’s keep it between us.

            saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            Now you are at your best . No response, no excuses!
            Saay1 , abi 0
            Good job.

            I think IA is 95% of your problems.

          • ted

            Hi Abi, please dont. We are trying to convince saay IA is only 49% of our problem so he can exert more than 50% effort and view. That is the only thing what makes Saay as every Ethiopian i know to believe almost all our problem is IA.

          • saay7

            Hey Ted: I got a call from Mr Pareto and he is not happy with you disregarding his 80/20 rule.
            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Oh Sal,

            Believe me… I have no come back to that…Watching those pictures did really hurt my eyes, I am out to get dark glasses…It’s like getting eye laser treatment… 🙂

          • Rahwa T

            merHaba saay,

            Another enlightening comments from you once again. Thanks. I thought your understanding and interpretation of the EEBC decision was different from Haile TG’s. May be I was wrong. At least that was how I felt when I read you guys. May be the additional comment from tegadalay Semere T, and the many up votes you got from people I considered hard nationalist had exaggerated the real image of difference you two have on the EEBC Decision. But I don’t think your reasoning on EPRDF’s 5 points was sound. EPRDF (or rather Meles) unexpectedly brought it only very few months before the election, and it was seen like a suicidal for its supporters and Ethiopians in general, and I agree with Haile TG’s idea that the same policy is still on the table even after Meles’ death.

            But at least I have taken you point that your stand of the Decision is not the same as how PFDJ plays on it.

          • saay7

            Selam Rahwa:

            I guess u are checking the up votes and not what I wrote:) I think I said that Meles introduced the 5-point-peace plan under pressure from Kinjit (in October 2004) at least 3 times. I also said he was also under pressure to do something about the UN condemning Ethiopia for its refusal to cooperate with eEBC at least twice. All of which I understand as a government being creative to solve two problems. What I don’t understand is why the Eri opposition supported it. As u said, it was not even popular with Ethiopians and that’s the danger when a movement is joined at the hips with EPRDF: it adopts policies that have no support among Eritreans or Ethiopians.

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi Saay

            I will start upping your vote if only redeemed for truthfulness, at least it is how it is considered in the weyane land, meto be’ meto vote;-) When Massawa was liberated dimiSTi hafash radio was saying ” ብግሮርኦም ሂዝናዮም’ and Asmarinos ,more than the crippling shortage of food and fuel, with no liquor and beer to drink they say ብጽምዒ ዶ ወዲኦምና ቅድሚ ጦር ምማቱ”. For Eritrea making a deal (dialogue for “peace”) at this juncture it is no- win situation no matter how you slice it. Weyane want to have it both ways: they want the ” forget and forgive” trick with Eritreans and to Ethiopians, obey us; we are the undisputed and powerful leaders who brought Eritreans to their knee. Eritrean people don’t need PFDJ propaganda to know what Weyane means to Eritrean. Weyane do anything in the name of “peace and reconciliation” to stay in power. And our bad friends In Addis ababa went against all logic: the interest of Eritreans and Ethiopians. We would have continued fighting for better future of Eritreans and Ethiopians against weyane but now HTG pointed out Eritrea is about to collapse as a country( he has a knack for that) we need to cut our losses and accept the peace deal to be gracious losers on the unfair fight.

          • saay7

            Hi Ted:

            But it is not a deal or “dialogue for peace.” There is a good-faith implementation of EEBC and a bad-faith implementation of EEBC. The bad faith implementation, from Ethiopia, is the buyer’s remorse: a large body of Ethiopians believe that a country that had dictated the terms of peace in 2001 should have gotten a better language than the Algiers Agreement. The bad faith implementation from Eritrea is an in-your-face approach (you know, the dude who does that does the flamboyant touch-down dance when his team is 35 points behind): the language already says that lines can be altered so long as both parties will it.

            saay

          • Ted

            TPLF got everything they want after the border war :they sunk their teeth in Ethiopia, they managed to isolate Eritrea and continue to do so, more importantly they hindered and divided the Eritrean justice movement so we can not to be able to defend our interest. We are asking the two governments, wrong for their people gunning to defeat the other, to make peace so they extend their life. We have the huge mess in respective countries that the best way forward is to solve our problem as we see it. If the Greatest MS says, it would be better to make a deal with Tigrayans Weyane than the ESAT/G7 group who has not the best interest of Ertreans And if i say ,with all due respect, how long are we live our life peacefully if not for the best interest of Ethiopians or whoever leads them, Abi or Eyob, do you see the difference and is it a wrong question? All is not lost in the last 15 yrs: Ethiopians now know they can live without Assab and also got to realize Eritreans love their independence no matter what.

            As long as people know there is greener pasture somewhere else , people do what they do, migrate and Tigrayns are no different than Eritreans especially knowing they can be treated as the privileged Eritrean citizens a minute they crossed their border.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Come on Ted,

            Both are totally Abi and I are adorable…We will be very nice leaders.. 😉

          • Ted

            Come on Eyob be a good sport. How bad Abi is going to be to you.He deserves a chance. You have treated him well, haven’t you?irregardless ,it is all for the best that he knows we got your back ( blood is thicker than water)with any eventuality.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Ok Ted,

            I am lost. Explain…

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            Ted thinks you are from Tigry. That is all. It is ok. He is a new arrival.
            The PM is grooming him to be his special assistance in tigry affairs. He is recruiting his future contacts. Sorry, you don’t qualify…

          • Ted

            Hi Abi, You being from Gonder is much more stickier than Mr. Medhane being from Tigray. Do you want me show you more video’s what Weyane say about Gonderes. Don’t dare me.

          • Abi

            Ted, bring it on. Weyanewoch min yemaylut ale?

          • Ted

            Hi Abi, don’t be so brave. i still remember your last tantrum accusing me dividing people. But we feel betrayed that you never tell us what is going on around Gonder lately while we tell you all our dirty laundry even our presidents hair cut , coats and sandals he wears. Be a pal we like a chaos in Ethiopia as much as you crave for the news Eritreans suffering.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Ted,

            I am from Tigray? Than you for letting me know… Ha ha… But first, teach me how to speak Tigrigna please…

          • Ted

            Hi Eyob, if you are not Eritrean, it won’t make iota difference whether you are from Tigray or Shewa and shouldn’t to any other Eritrean for that matter. The good thing about Awate university is that it raises various sensitive issues to let people come out their shells. Abi has the record score. All i know for sure is your ferocious disapproval of Eritrean independence which make any other opinion of yours about Eritreans inconsequential. But the way you explain things here looks like Eritrean fighter jets killed your cousin in Tigray school. For what is worth i like your comments on issues we discuses here.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ted let me tell you a story about the guy you are conversing. At one time he told SAAY that he has an Eritrean blood in him, then one day SAAY brought in a conversation and he went billistic on SAAY. He told SAAY, the
            reason SAAY is saying that he has Eritrean blood in him is simply to undermine his Ethiopianess. You talk about convoluted and screwup mentality. Anyway you are he is all out from Tigray. There are three kind of Tigryans and he is the 3rd kind.

          • Ted

            Hi Nitricc
            Eritreans voted 99.98 voted for and those 0.2 against are mutants with contaminated genes from somewhere else. Internet is the wild wild west where everything goes. They think we forget when the blew the steam every now and then. Even our Muslim lady stuck on her guns against all odds. You will be disgusted by what you read if you happen to venture to asmarino.com in the name of Eritrean justice and fredom.

          • saay7

            Bad bad Nitricc

            Leave my buddy Eyobai alone. He is more interesting the the Dos Equis guy. Really I mean it. Eyob is a hard-core Ethiopian and who cares about his ancestry that may or may not include Eritreans. Only the most boring gene-counters are intersted in that: you are what your heart says you are. Are u aware Nitriccay that a future government in Eritrea may reject the concept of dual citizenship and make all of us with North American, European citizenship non-Eritreans? Don’t confuse identity-by-bureaucracy with identity-by-heart. Eyobai is an Ethiopian, one of its intelligent defenders. Well yeah his musical taste sucks but nobody is perfect. Not even Nitricc who is the most Eritrean guy I know although he had never been to Eritrea.

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY good to know the new awate salutation is bad, bad lol sorry i usually do that To SJ lol.
            Anyway the most thing that excites me about Eritrea Is, that nothing is done poetically and I get the chance to do it. It is true if you ask the likes of Mizan’s and they will tell you they are depressed because nothing is done. So, it is all about respective and how you see things. Since I will be among the once who will shape Eritrean policy; I will be very consideret to the Eritrean Doasporans, as long as they don’t demand a lavish treatment the weyane stayle.

          • Ted

            Hi, Saay, who else but you be appropriate to send the congratulation message for Ethiopian women sweep on 5000m race. Don’t forget the one he had with girmay G/sellassie:-)

          • saay7

            Right on Ted:

            Congratulations to all Ethiopians on the blowout. Did you also see one of the 17 Dibabas Ethiopia has sprint to the finish And winning the female marathon? But I think the most amazing guy is Usain Bolt…he beats people while jogging the last 3 seconds.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            One of the 17 Dibabas…very funny.. 🙂

            Dibaba is a common name in Afan Oromo. It means ‘Jantila’ or umbrella, but not a common kind. A special kind like the one that churches use, during ceremonies… (We charge 10 Naqfa per hour for trivia.. 🙂 )

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Thank you. I would have had a lot to say about the little gutter snipe. But, for the sake of decency and I am more interested in responding to human beings, I would leave it at that…

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            I know…. Ha ha…this name thing is very deceiving……lol

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            Medhane Alem yimeskrilih.

          • Abi

            Ted, I kind of missed talking to you. Which blood is thicker? Cow’s or goat’s? That is what you should ask.
            I and Eyobe, lib lelib. We have one heart , we also share the same thick blood. Royal blood!
            Ted, have you tried goat milk? It is time to milk the skinny and noisy goats.

          • Ted

            Abi, what i know was cow milk. Goats were left for you. Which dead royal blood you from; is that Alula or Atse Yohannes. Our Royals are alive and kicking just across the sea milking camel Milk.

          • Abi

            Ted
            I am from Atse Ted ( Tewodros).
            Which Arab royal you talking about who is milking camel across the sea? Do you have to cross the sea looking for a camel milking royal Arab ?
            I pray PMMS is not reading this thing . he will revoke your citizenship.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hi the great Ted
            My final and binding say, PART III
            I know for sure abi is unadulterated የቄራ ልጅ ነው። ጥሩ ኢትዮጵያዊ ነው። We do have our own abis too. They may get a bit out of line when the national anthem of both countries are played. It’s to be expected. We also have extremely pessimistic lots. I hope the majority see the problems as they stand, without exaggerating or down playing them. I see enormous problems in front of us, but they don’t seem to be insurmountable. I think the “pencil” article recognizes this. Time and events are moving fast. The current opposition leaders will either recognize this FACT or they will make themselves irrelevant.
            On the TPLF, let’s all try to reset the mood. Be kind to history Ted. Both these peoples bled together in order to create a new political order.
            You should not judge Ethiopia or Eritrea by the few hotheaded individuals YOU SEE IN THIS FORUM. Statesmen and women think differently. So the brouhaha you see on this forum should not be the test of measuring the possibility of peaceful solution. I definitely would like it was concluded under the leadership of Meles. For the two reasons I mentioned in my previous installments: the matter was urgent and international community was seized with it, and there was a man we could have made peace with. I believe that. In both points, we are worse off today.
            Anyway, the reason why the border is not completed is not because of Baduma or geography, but that spot has been given enormous political significance. Each side betted the downfall of the other party on securing the possession of Badme. That shows you the parties have still unconcluded business. They are positioning themselves for the right moment. And we are clapping for them. How pathetic of us. Even the opposition could not have courage to say one way or the other. We need men and women of vision. Leaders who say, enough of these qomish adey Hanquiluni.
            Ted please don’t get swayed by this old arch rivalry of Tigrigna elites, the farmers and villagers closer to the borders will have a happy day when they see the end of this problem. I know it, I have grown amid these mad rivalries. I also know the good citizens of the citizens on both sides of the river.

          • Ted

            Hi The greatest MS. if we let kinship and comradeship aside, geography alone will not let us to be resentful at one another. What we have is politics not blood feud or vendetta of some kind. When you mentioned it is better with Tigray weyane than G7, i say we are different country we shouldn’t expect any favour because of our comradeship past. And those fool tegadelty who expected good friendship got burned very bad. lesson learned.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear SAAY; now it should be clear that you and I are WAY smarter than our colleagues in the PFDJ-2. The ruling and the clarifications given on it by the court DO NOT preclude dialogue as this clause makes it clear: “…the line may be varied only on the basis of an express request agreed between and made by both Parties.” So, it’s not really the geography that’s at play but politics. Issues of villages and pastures could long have been agreed upon or changed hands.
            Here is my “final and binding” PART II:
            1. With all the bitter experience the war created, Eritreans will never find a more moderate government than the one in power. Worse, veteran TPLF tegadelti who have had favorable attitudes toward the Eritrean people and their cause, if not towards Eritrean organizations, are leaving the scene.
            2. Watching ESAT makes me throw up; it reminds me Derg era. It’s mind boggling to believe that parties which don’t even believe Eritrean right to exist will be kindlier when to us when they seize power.
            3. The border will get a final and binding conclusion under some sort of dialogue. It may be while these two belligerent fronts are in power or in the future. But mark this: some kind of talk will take place in order to get this done.
            4. The more the situation remains unresolved the more missed opportunities for cooperation and development and the more cause to worry about another senseless round of war. One incident, one miscalculation, is enough to get things spiral out of control.
            5. The early #3 takes place the better for reasons listed in #4.
            But I know it’s all about ego and pride, and

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Mahmuday:
            I have not followed this thread in detail.But the reason I did not object to your PMship by acclamation is because you are fluent in 3 Eritrean languages, my new radical idea that even my friend Beyan pooh-poohed it:-)
            Now to say you are way smarter than PFDJ or whatever you changed it too is “rekkik” in meaning:-) You could not find a better more cogent more potent and more efficacious diction to describe how you and Sal are smarter than these groups.You have at your disposal 4 languages, ya Mahmuday.
            Eza hakemet meay (fin ente abilenani) I will write the speech for Jamal and please tell Sal not to read it because he will pre-judged it as been as “nzeftwo sirnay ntselaetet dima eshok agam” and he will spoil his Sat:-)
            I agree with all your points but I do not think there will be senseless war, it will not be a walk in the park but I can bet that PFDJ will be defeated easly in the first round of fighting and we are not ready yet to fill the vacuum but when that happens we can only pray that God gives Ethiopia wisdom not to act irresponsibly until we figure out how to stich back the somalized Eritrea or gracefully( I know it misnomer) break the country to make human beings first. Do not be mistaken about it, if it ends with war there will be major re-alignment in our countries . Maekebay’s parting email is not that of a fringe thinking, ELL’s emergence was not out of the blue.
            I bet you two cups of halib ensa or half cup of dimdumu that Sal will down vote this comment 🙂

          • saay7

            Cousin iSem and His Excellency Mahmuday:

            Cousin, I am not going to downvote this comment (do we even have that feature?) but only because I really want to torture you with halib ensa.

            Now, then, while I appreciate Mahmuday trying to flatter me, I happen to know that there are a lot of MUCH smarter Eritreans in the “Chauvinist School” who are deliberately playing dumb because Eritrea is now like a box with a big warning: Warning: showing signs of independence and smartness is hazardous to your health. It is conditioning and most people can be de-conditioned. As a matter of fact, notwithstanding all our big talk, most of us (you included iSem) would recognize that in Eritrea the smart thing to do is to appear to be dumb.

            When the Scots were holding their referendum on whether to be an independent state, they were getting a lot of advice on how those who opted for independence are faring. And, if I recall, it was all bad: South Sudan, Kosovo, East Timor, Eritrea. So a lot of what we are going through, other nations are going through with one exception: the mass exodus. We don’t even have a name for it in Tigrinya–despite the fact that it is a biblical word. Isaias called it “flset” (ፍልሰት) which is not what the Bible called it. Isn’t it Zetsat? I blame you, iSem for not knowing that–with all your multilingual skills.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hey Saay,

            I thought your tigrigna language was limited to “Asmarino language” which is a mixed of Arabic, tigrigna, and Italian. You are right the bible calls it “Zetseat” a synonymous to “flset” which means mass exodus. When a nation expel its’s youth, it is really a big problem and can not be addressed by the nature of our engagement. Don’t you think Salehom?

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • saay7

            Emma:

            First you are talking to a guy when went to a Catholic and then Wengelawit where Bible studies was mandatory.

            Second, I was traveling with my daughter and the cabbie was a recently arrived Eritrean of the exodus generation. He tried to converse with my daughter in Tigrinya and made little progress and then he was talking to me and he said “anta eskha wn kab’a aytHayshen ikha. Izi melHaskas…wedi keren dikha?” Damn my DaArit: u can’t wash it off generations later.

            Of course I asked him the path he followed. And of course it was absolutely unbelievable. And he works 18 hour days to send money to his brothers who want out of Eritrea

            In the Biblical exodus, it wasn’t man who solved the problem. It was the intervention of God. So everyone needs to return to their faith and say: God, this problem is too big for me, please help me solve it. Uh oh, I think I mixed politics and religion:) I will stand in the corner and practice some nefse-nekefeta just the way Amma taught me:)

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Saay Nebsi,

            This time you come with a good suggestion, “us to turn to God” and ask him to solve our problem. Then I will ask you (AT) to give us a “prayer recess time or prayer holiday” of two weeks for awatistas where our Muslims go to Mosque and the christian to their church. If we did this even our conversation will be transformed when we come after two week recess for prayer. Am I right Saay?

            Regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • saay7

            Hi Emma:

            Why not? Our forefathers pioneered “inter-faith prayers” whenever the rains failed and famine was on the horizon. Now we can use it for the drought in political innovation to solve Eritrea’s existential problems. Maybe with Awate 8.0. A lot of people think secularism means “for church and mosque not to interfere in affairs of State.” But for the people who came up with secularism, it meant “for State not to interfere in affairs of church.” This of course happens ALL THE TIME in “secular” Eritrea, Ethiopia and every other dictatorship.

            saay

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan semere
            The Marshal did demote/down vote you this time. You should not really downplay the effect/size of any war. The safest way is to over estimate its effect. STRIKE ONE (Emma edition)
            They say when the cloud of war gathers the saints flee, that’s why humans act like animals; I don’t know that’s what ኣባት ቀሺ ዘ ስታርባክሲስታ በሉዋ። ክአምዝታት ክሰምዕ ከለኹ ጃከተይ ክመልስ እየ ዝደናደን። Believe me things will not play out the way some believe will take course. It is all about intimidation and Gura. Eritreans should not be misled by few who claim to represent more than they do. Anyway, war should be the last thing one resort to. If there is a naked invasion, Eritreans will rally around those defending the nation. This is given. It could not be an exception when it applies to Eritreans who are STILL among the most nationalist people. STRIKE TWO.
            Anyway, to be frank, if I were to take characters like maekebay and SIMILAR entities’ views who take Eritrea as a fostering agent of their Habesha identity as representing the opposition’s views, I would not be hoping that a better Eritrea will eventually come. STRIKE THREE
            We better give threats due score value. The risk of seeing Eritrea disintegrating into the scenarios you raise is very minimal. That’s if everyone of us plays the resistance card responsibly.My major Hateta of this was to remind us of this danger; that there are in fact individuals and entities who are using the opposition card in order to promote ideas and ambitions the majority don’t intend to entertain. STRIKE FOUR
            Now, the long Habesha or rather Tigre coffee is ready, and I’m getting rolling eyebrows, bye.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba saay,

            – If all you have by way of implicating evidence is #3, even that 18 years ago, that is called ነገር ድልይልይ፣ በትሪ ሃሰውሰው in proverbial logic (Mahmuday: please translate to Amharic 🙂

            – If the 5 point plan was merely put together to rebuff Kinijit and to improve EPRDF/TPLF image, why hasn’t EPRDF change it now in order to meet current situation? There is no Meles, no Kinijit, no teeth left in PFDJ jaws… why are they holding on to that?

            – Similarly (regarding your meaning of domestic), PFDJ’s position isn’t based on Eritrea’s best interest. It is based on its power calculation that if it does the normal thing (as in negotiate) it will open a Pandora’s box.

            – Suppose an opposition says the 5 point plan is welcome, provided #3 and #5 are first developed further so as to include a precise frame of references as time, place and clear commitment… Would it be bad idea to start dialog on those points?

            Anyway, I agree the opposition have serious skill gap (I agree with Mahmuday’s point above). As some one with background in Educator/Education, you know for sure when there is a skill gap, criticism will simply be senseless because it won’t make up for what is missing.

            cheers

          • saay7

            Ahlen Haile TG:

            Just to summarize: you said the Eritrean opposition should develop its 5 point peace plan, then Sabri said why is the Eritrean opposition developing its 5 point peace plan, then I said, “ummm, btw, it HAS come up with a 5-point peace plan: it endorsed the Ethiopian 5-point peace plan.” ወሪድዎ ሳልሕ በትሪ የብሉ መኾስ የብሉ:)

            1. If the 5-point plan was merely put together to rebuff kinjit, why hasn’t it come with new one? First, it came up with it to appease Kinjit criticism AND to address the relentless criticism by the UN. (Remember when the UN used to issue resolutions based on UNMEE’s reports? The SC had gotten to a “strongly condemns” phrasing, and something had to be done. Ergo, the 5 point peace plan. Then what?

            At the Ethiopian level, the issue was delegated by EPRDF to TPLF. And at the TPLF level it was taken over by the hardliner wing (the Abbay Woldu wing) and you are a witness that at this forum people have said the EEBC and the Algiers Agreements are moot points. At the UN, officially, nothing changed: even after the 5-point peace plan, the UN, as an institution, was demanding that Ethiopia “unconditionally” accept the EEBC (the 5 point peace plan is a series of conditions.) It was also, as it has been since the beginning, putting the onus for their implementation on the two states (we are witnesses, not guarantors.)

            That took us to 2006, when the dispute was between the UN and Ethiopia, then Isaias Afwerki took a series of terrible decisions–frustrating UNMEE, supporting Islamists in Somalia, refusing to acknowledge dispute with Djibouti, training Ethiopian opposition forces–that squandered whatever goodwill Eritrea had left with the UN. Meanwhile, Ethiopia increasingly became one of the UN’s/AU’s go-to-country for stabilizing countries in Africa (the 4th largest contributor of peacekeepers, after Bangladesh, Pakistan, and India), it chairs IGAD, it chairs COMESA, and it is a serial member of the AU’s Peace & Security Council.

            If you are creating the analogy with the field of education, the Opposition leaders are not students with skill gap but teachers with skill gap. Some of those you train and some you fire.

            saay

          • Rahwa T

            Hi all,

            ነገር ድልይልይ፣ በትሪ ሃሰውሰው

            ጠብ ያለሽ በዳቦ

          • haileTG

            haha Rahwa, that is the closest in Amharic, I wonder if Mahmuday or abi can beat that translation:-)

          • Mahmud Saleh

            salam Haylat
            You are kidding, aren’t you? ናብ cousin Hope or dawit ኣሕሊፈያ ኣለኹ። Hope እንቋዕ ብደሓን መጻእካ።
            SAAY and Haile: I have a task for you guys. Let’s put aside the past, let’s understand the incoherence and hesitancy it showed in relation to thorny issues as a result of the opposition’s unfortunate situation, its only supporter being the country that’s reneging to the EEBC ruling . Let’s say, that’s the past. I want you to reorient your attention to the future. Honestly, people are kin to see what innovative suggestions our educated and informed community give us. Based on your reading, what 5 points do you suggest the opposition should do in order to make qualitative change?

          • saay7

            His Excellency Mahmuday:

            I gave my answer to Rahwa but I can expand here.

            But first, my premise:

            1. Both Eritrea and Ethiopia hired the best attorneys, specialists money can buy to make their case and both were represented by excellent advocates;

            2. Both Eritrea and Ethopia had a say on the make-up of the Boundary Commission;

            3. Both Eritrea and Ethiopia want finality to this: they don’t want future generations of Eritreans and Ethiopians who feel that their ancestors made a mistake, to relitigate the issue;

            4. Both Eritrea and Ethopia have wasted a lot of time and resources on the border issue and don’t want to start negotiations from scratch.

            5. Both Eritrea and Ethiopia only want what is theirs as defined by colonial treaties and international law. Nobody was using an “ask for everything, settle for what you get.” It was a good-faith negotiation: there was no maximalist approach (I am talking to you, Emma:) In the negotiations, Ethiopia unilaterally conceded some lands (to the surprise of the judges) and in the maps that both parties submitted both conceded areas in the Bada area. (I joked at the time that it must be some sort of nuclear waste dump site for both parties to not want it. No offense to people of Bada.

            NOW, therefore:

            My view is that the EEBC ruling AND the clarifications that were provided by its president, Sir Elihu Lauterpacht, in one of his reports to the UN, give us adequate room for both Eritrea and Ethiopia to get what they want while remaining true to the letter and spirit of the EEBC ruling. (I will expand on that a bit, later on.)

            Eritrea wants as faithful interpretation of the delimitation decision of April 2002. It doesn’t want to be bullied by a big neighboring country into accepting something less than what international law says belongs to it. (See my premise # 5). Ethiopia wants consideration for “human and physical geography”: that a boundary line should not be so rigid that it massively inconveniences people.

            This is what Sir Elihu said about the subject:

            That boundary, as delimited by the Commission, and subject only to the two qualifications mentioned in para. 12 above [referring to the weird delimation of Zalanbessa as per the ruling itself], constituted the final and legally binding line of the boundary. What remained to be done was the physical demarcation of the line on the ground by the placing of visible markers at appropriate locations. The Commission accordingly moved to the demarcation phase of its activity, having already appointed a Chief Surveyor and a Special Consultant and opened Field Offices. The Parties were consulted and their views were taken into account in the formulation of the Demarcation Directions which were promulgated on 8 July 2002. At that stage, neither Party suggested that the Commission had, or should have, a power to vary the boundary in the course of demarcation or that there was any need for more than limited technical discussion between them before the demarcation could begin and be carried to a conclusion.

            Direction 14A of the Demarcation Directions specifically stated:
            “The Commission has no authority to vary the boundary line. If it runs through and divides a
            town or village, the line may be varied only on the basis of an express request agreed between and made by both Parties.”

            For this to happen, Ethiopia needs to accept the ruling unconditionally. No 3 point 4 point and 5 point conditions. People forget that AFTER EEBC had ruled Badme was on the Eritrean side of the border, Ethiopia was appealing the decision. And then, very cynically, heaped criticism on the “old white men” (playing the race card to imply that these highly reputable jurists don’t know what they are talking about.) Moreover, its supporters like T.Kifle have to accept it. On March 1, in these fine pages, T.Kifle told us that the EEBC is null and void and when he was asked if that is his personal opinion or that of the government, told us that “As far as Ethiopia is concerned, the Algiers Agreement is null and void as a result of UNMEE’s kick out on ground of Eritrea’s unilateral decision.”

            http://awate.com/the-eritrean-lowland-league-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-165013

            And for this to happen, Eritrea must approach the issue from the standpoint of solving an Eritrean problem and not as that of an Ethiopian king-maker.

            So that’s my 1 point plan. Accept the ruling as is, but with two changes in attitude: for Ethiopia to stop having buyers remorse, and for Eritrea to use the treaty as a means to solving an Eritrean problem and not internal Ethiopian political dynamics.

            saay

          • haileTG

            hey saay,

            The question being

            “Based on your reading, what 5 points do you suggest the opposition should do in order to make qualitative change?”

            #1 is directed at both parties

            #2 is directed at Ethiopia and obviously needs someone with an ear in EPRDF high places

            #3 is directed at Eritrea and obviously needs someone with an ear in PFDJ high places

            Is there anything that the opposition can or should do to make “qualitative change”?

            Remember, Mahmuday’s sole condition is to forget the past and reorient into the future. Let’s have the mind’s best before the heart gets rollin 🙂

          • saay7

            Hala Hailat:

            I really bungled that one, didn’t I? I read 5-points and I thought His Excellency was asking for the opposition initiative of its own 5-point-peace plan:) So, ok, let’s consider what I wrote my contribution to one of the five things it can do to generate qualitative change: the Opposition can adopt my 3 point peace plan on the border issue.

            So, for now, Heart First (lb yqdem): you go with your 5-point plan for the opposition to make qualitative change.

            saay

          • haileTG

            Selamat saay and Mahmuday,

            I will not bore you by re-stating what you already know about the Ethio-Eritrea no-war no-peace deadlock. Hence, I will go straight to answering my 2-cents to the queston:

            “Honestly, people are kin to see what innovative suggestions our educated and informed community give us. Based on your reading, what 5 points do you suggest the opposition should do in order to make qualitative change?”

            Noting that the no-war no-peace situation is exacting heavy price on the communities on both sides of the border

            Noting that the no-war no-peace situation has set in motion a silent collapse of the state of Eritrea

            Noting that the Eritrean people inside the country face clear and present danger to their long term peace and security and normal livelihood by the irresponsible use of the border pretext by the regime of IA

            Noting that the Ethiopian government has reneged on the final and binding settlement treaty and indefinitely postponed the matter until such time its demand for dialog are met

            Noting the fact that over half a million Eritreans have now uprooted from the country since the border war was officially brought to an end by the Algiers treaty

            Noting the fact that the rate at which state collapse, sectarian and regional polarization in Eritrea is developing poses a serious concern

            Noting that the Eritrean youth make up the greatest section of the mass exodus from Eritrea

            Noting that every Eritrean is morally duty bound to assist his/her here fellow citizen in this times of great national distress

            That our children deserve to grow up with their families and not in refugee camps

            That our youth deserve to strive for betterment of their lives than be held hostage in an indefinite national service

            That our elderly deserve to retire among their children and not alone in a dark home

            That our people in general deserve to be safe to go to work, have a say in the affairs of their country

            It is here by recommended that that all Eritreans who stand for truth, justice and freedom support a inter-organizational initiative called STOP THE WAR:

            where by

            1 – A committee from all organized political groups, civil society, human rights advocate, faith organizations and individuals is to be formed

            2 – That the committee is mandated to use responsible language and direction to call for mass mobilization to enlist support for its STOP THE WAR campaigns

            3 – That all resources be deployed (current UN findings, media, petitions, assisting victims…) to expose the silent suffering of the Eritrean people, tragedies, wasted lives, lawlessness, insecurity and ultimate path to state collapse akin to Somalia

            4 – That the UN be compelled to invoke its RTP (Responsibility To Protect) legal mandate to avert the silent catastrophe that the Eritrean people are going through thus compel the Eritrean regime to to stop taking the nation hostage with impunity

            5 – To create conducive moral argument that will embolden ordinary Eritreans to sign up to the cause to STOP THE WAR

            The people are not expected to solve the problem themselves, but have a good case to build a powerful argument to pressure a meaningful change. Eritreans organized in various forms as above (commonly called Opposition) can take a center stage by making themselves relevant to the problem and assuming responsibility. There are many windfall benefits to such wide scale mobilization. Avoid controversial language that can confuse people, raise awareness of the consequences rather than the causes of the conflict. Low on politics and high on people issue will also help to close the cracks for those who only see this issue from narrow political, regional, religious agenda.

            Regards

          • Peace!

            Hi All,

            It is fine to make a joke, but please don’t distract others from the topic-;)

            Cheers!

          • Equal Justice for All

            Hailat:
            This is the first time ever I have seen the so called 5-point-plan by Ethiopia.
            If that is the case,well,we are the “losers”, theoretically.—huhuhuh,joking.
            The tricky part is that the 5-point–plan is vague and with lots of gray areas…
            What are those points of Dialogue?
            The more acceptable and reasonable plan would be:
            That Ethiopia should leave per the EEBC verdict then discuss about Normalization and peace with the help of the same ” Guarantors if the Ethiopian concern is the same like that of Dr Fanti Ghana.
            Since you asked a similar 5-point-plan by Eritrea, here you have it :
            That Eritrea will engage Ethiopia for Peace and Normalization in the same afternoon Ethiopia withdraws from Baduma.You did not like it, I guess.
            But it sounds like you are acting like an Ethiopian Ambassador here…..,with all due respect ,sir, while fully knowing the evil and crooked intentions of the same Ethiopian Gov,aka, EPRDF/TPLF.
            I am just curious as to why you did not want to question the codes within the 5-point plan of the Ethiopian Gov.
            HINT:
            The codes are or is:
            Accept our preconditions otherwise we will remove you from power.
            There is a reason while the GoE forwarded its own 5-point-plan but in one statement!
            And to blame only the GoE, and with an” Authority” or an Authoritative Tone, is but beyond Hypocrisy!
            There is NOT doubt that Dialogue is the best option but,hey,we have an experience and history NOT to forget…about.

          • haileTG

            Hi EQJA

            Don’t lose Hope 🙂

            Don’t engage without reading the comments

            Don’t ask questions to only answer them yourself

            Don’t assume how people will feel, think, react… based on what you say or do. You don’t control that

            Don’t forget to go to mai chelot and take 2×7…ገለ ሰሪሩካ ኣሎ

            Hope – fully you like this 5 point plan instead:-)

          • Abi

            Hailachin
            You give hope to the hopeless.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Haile TG

            Wow! Not only you’re GREAT at defending Woyane’s five point plan but also you’re GREAT at muzzling peoples mouth. You’re really are GREAT as an alternative to PFDJ rule.

            Slowly but surely you’re coming out of the closet. Keep talking and we’re listening.

            Semere Tesfai

          • haileTG

            Semere Tesfai,

            Until you back up your assertion with evidence, you’re still Semere Tesfai the cheap lair to me.

            The ball is on your court, Mr cheap lair,

        • sabri

          Dear Hailat,

          I think we need to see the verdict apart from Pfdj. Whether Pfdj is in power or not that document will stay. We have to deal with it sooner or later. Had the Eritrean government acts in civility I don’t think the international community sit idle when Ethiopia openly violate the deal that it signed on as final and binding. Therefore, it is not a good argument to say insisting to implement the document in its original spirit leads to disaster. It is not the argument of implement the verdict that lead to disaster. It is the governance of Pfdj. Why are the opposition totally silent on this issue?

          Ethiipia’s 5 plan is an invitation for renegotiate the boarder issue. By this statement Ethiopia implicitly rejected the verdict and wants new deal. The opposition may need to construct new plan on the issue if they also rejected the verdict. The main task of the opposition is to unseat the current government. If they accept the verdict officially it will be beneficial. The only country that will be unhappy is Ethiopia.

          • haileTG

            Dear Sabri,

            My first preference is for the demarcation to go ahead as per EEBC. This is because it requires no more than emplacement of pillars on the ground based on the already delimited points along the boundaries. Both countries can then workout better deal for local people who would be impacted. Ethiopia is not happy with that. That is a fact and that should concern us. It concerns us because it can lead to renewed conflict and bigger challenges. We’ve dealt about how the opposition needed to clarify its point or stand. Many of those opposition are not accessible by social media, website or what have you. Those that are, have always stated their support to the border resolution through the agreed upon verdict. Unfortunately, they are not in a position to make any dent on the issue as it is a state to state matter. Most likely, we have a problem to deal with, i.e. Ethiopia isn’t going to accept it as is. Not only that but PFDJ isn’t about to lift its atrocious sanctions on the Eritrean people so long as the Ethiopian side doesn’t accept it.

            Now here is a question:

            Right at this moment, stop everything, and think of all Eritrean children aged 2 or under. Forget everybody else. These children can potentially end up in trenches or in Universities gaining high life opportunities. They have no developmental skill to debate with us the ins and outs of this issues. Knowing all you know, considering all the risks you know, for their sake and their sake alone, what would you chose to do to resolve the stand off? Remember, what ever you decide stands, as all their future depends on you for they can not make a decision by themselves. I would do everything in my power to go the least risky way possible for them. How would you do it?

            This is also a prelude to Mahmuday’s question on what should we do for the future. I will comeback to you Mahmuday.

            Regards

          • sabri

            Hailat,

            Well, that is a good question. Despite the hard condition in Eritrea today I’m hopeful things will change regardless if the opposition and well organized or not. I don’t see children under 2 will end up in trenches that is 16 years from now. Issayas if he survive he wull be a his late 80s. Change will occur soon. Once change and justice prevail in Eritrea. Of border demarcation will not be a problem. And I assume Ethiipia will not be as hard as they are today. Once a democratic government is in place, Ethiopia will properties its benefits rather than stick to its 5 plan.

            Best regards,
            Sabri

          • haileTG

            Hey Sabri,

            No doubt this discussion will continue. It is great to be that optimistic. But considering the reality on the ground, it is rather hard to expect it would workout that simply. My question was meant to weigh the moral implications of political decisions, that is why I chose a section of our society that can’t actually physically speak (developmentally), so that we can have the podium to speak for them. If your prediction holds, you’ll sure be vindicated and if not እዋእ ይሰውረና ግዲ 🙂

  • Admas

    የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ከኤርትራ ህዝብ የሚፈልገዉ ነገር የለም። በኤርትራ ሰበብ መኖሩንም ኣላቋረጠም። አንዲያዉም ከኤርትራ ከተለየ በህዋላ ኑሮ የጣመዉ ይመስላል። እናም ስለምን ዉድቀታችሁን ሁሉ በኢትዮጵያ አንደምታመሃኙ ኣይገባንም። የድንበር ግጭት አንደሆነ በብዙ ሃገሮች መሃል ኣሉ። ግን ማናቸዉም ሀገር ከእከሌ ስለተጣላሁ መስራት ኣልቻልኩም ብሎ እጁን ኣጣምሮ ኣይቀመጥም ወይም ኣገር ጥለዉ ኣይፈረጥጡም። ምነው አናንተ፣ ስንት ዘመን ሙሉ፣ ኢትዮጵያዊያን ናቸዉ ህዋላ ያስቀሩን አንጂ እኛ የተለየን ፍጡሮች ነን ስትሉ ኣልኖራችሁም አንዴ? ኣሁን ደግሞ በባድሜም ምክንያት ይሁን በኣሰብ፣ ከናንተ ጋር ላለመስራት መረጥን። በናንተ ምክኒያት ግን መኖር ኣላቆምንም። አናንተም ያንን ማድረግ የማትችሉበት ምክኒያት አይታየንም። ባድሜ ባድሜ ስትሉ የ “ታታሪነታችሁን” ቁልፍ ባድሜ ዉስጥ ጥላችሁ የፈረጣችሁ አኮ ነዉ የምትመስሉት፦ ይቅርታ ኣርጉልኝና እንደ ኤርትራዊ ጉራ የሰለቸኝ ነገር የለም፦

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Admas,

      ምክር ነው ስድብ ? ኣንተየ: ምነው ቸኮልክ ? ጠቃሚውን ንግግር ምነው ብጎጂ ቃላት ጠቀለልከው :: ህዝብን ያህል ጉረኛ ብሎ መግለጽ ኣሁን ምን ይባላል?
      ኣረ ኣይገባም !! ኣስተካክለህ እንደገና ጻፍ ::

    • Equal Justice for All

      Dear Admas:
      Very interesting response. Fortunately, it does NOT sound to be the position of the 90 Million Ethiopians.
      You missed the last “warning and advice” on the bottom of the Article by the AT.
      Please, be so kind to re-read it.
      You have no obligation to come in here and regurgitate the venom of hatred….
      The call is for Peace and Dialogue so as to move forward..

      • Ali

        If we Eritreans are ready for peace and dialog I think we have to admit all our problems like deporting Ethiopians in 1991, start the war of the 1998 and unfair relation with Ethiopia etc then I am sure on the Ethiopian side particularly EPRDF is the only party which understand the independence of Eritrea it is the only party which accepts Assebe is part of Eritrea. I can not say the problem is with people of Eritrea but the problem is one person who is responsible for the death of thousands of Eritreans.
        Down with HIgdef

  • betri_weyn

    Dear awate forum
    I am fully support your article and initiatives for the sake of the ordinary people we need to see what’s going on in international arena just one fresh example the recent major round table negotiations give and take diplomacy the big 5 economies and Iran concluded on win win solution so, to the solve the current situation we need a proper
    “#ጣውላ#’

  • sabri

    Dear Awate team,

    Thank you for bringing this timely and interesting topic.

    Recently I was talking with one delay fithi. He was worrying about the division among opposition. I do share his concern and gave him my view how to do.

    In my view if the opposition wants to be taken as a serious change- maker group by the majority it should focus on the following points:

    1. Agree to leave aside temporarily all minor issues like the issue of governing and leadership issues.

    2. Have a clear-cut stand on Ethiopia. Ethiopia should leave the occupied territories of Eritrea, accept the final and binding decision without ifs and buts. Until now this issue has been completely monopolized by pfdj. This issue is a national issue and should be reclaimed by the opposition. If Ethiopia will not be happy by this stand, fine. The opposition should search other venues.

    3. Based on the above points organize all inclusive organization without the interference of other countries including Ethiopia.

    4. Make concrete plan how to help Eritrean immigrants from being exploited by smugglers. And once they arrived in Eurooe create a network how they can be helped.

    In my opinion if the above points are realized I’m convinced vast majority of Eritreans will support it.

    Best regards,
    Sabri

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello Sabri,

      “Ethiopia should leave the occupied territories of Eritrea; accept the final and binding decision without ifs and buts.”

      This may not be as easy as it sounds, because Ethiopia has accepted the decision. However, if Ethiopia feels that pulling out of Badme will not result in a peaceful neighborliness, which is the ultimate goal of the agreement, why should it bother to leave?

      The statement “…without ifs and buts” is precluding the fact that Eritrea is not interested in “any talks” which is translating as “any peace” with Ethiopia.

      Basically Ethiopia is saying that let’s talk about all pertinent issues we have among us so we can have a meaningful result. Among those talks is about how and when to withdraw from Badme and all border areas affected by the same ruling.

      Otherwise, why should Ethiopia bother to withdraw if it is made to feel the relationship will still continue to deteriorate anyway? Why Ethiopia believes, at least for now, that there won’t be peace between both parties is demonstrated by Eritrea’s refusal to discuss all issues relevant to both. In a nutshell, this is the quagmire PFDJ and Ethiopia are in.

      To advice the opposition to continue on that same stubborn position may gain the opposition a few more supporters, but it cannot solve the problem at all. I think the opposition should discuss withdrawal scenarios and future cooperation points while removing PFDJ or afterwards.

      Talking about anything including Badme does not mean giving up anything, but “not talking” may be conceived as being “unfriendly.”

      • Equal Justice for All

        Dear Dr Fanti Ghana:

        You stated, with full cognition:

        “This may not be as easy as it sounds, because Ethiopia has accepted the decision. However, if Ethiopia feels that pulling out of Badme will not result in a peaceful neighborliness, which is the ultimate goal of the agreement, why should it bother to leave?”
        With all due respect, Sir, it might sound like:
        “Since we are powerful, it does NOT matter if we occupy a Sovereign Nation’s Land for ever…”
        You missed one point:
        That the UN in general, and the US,the EU,the AU,etc,are the Full Guarantors of the Agreement and its aftermath issues. Imagine if Eritrea were in Ethiopia’s position and the story could have been totally different.
        So,as usual ,we know that the Ethiopian Gov has been playing the usual game of weakening Eritrea and Eritreans,as expressed in its own words openly and repeatedly.
        Hence, to justify the unjustifiable is beyond Injustice.
        We know that the simple solution is just to respect the verdict. Eritrea would not be in any position to destabilize Ethiopia under any circumstance after demarcation as there is NO single piece of a justification to do so,not to mention the rationale, the morale and even the Energy to do so….
        As a matter of fact,the status quo or the current Ethiopian position has helped the dictatorship to hold its feet of dictating Eritrea and Eritreans, which by default or by proxy, has fulfilled the agenda of the Ethiopian Gov,aka,EPRD/TPLF of weakening Eritrea and Eritreans, a fact a third grader could figure our out ,let alone Dr Fanti Ghana.
        Very disappointing one!

        • Abi

          Hello Equal justice
          Where have you been? Nice nick! Very hopeful nick. I like you already.
          Hopefully you stay around.
          Your cousin .

        • Fanti Ghana

          Hello Equal Justice for All,

          I agree that it is disappointing, and I hope you understand that I am playing the devil’s advocate here, but if you were in a position of solving this problem as we have it now, what would you do differently than what PFDJ is doing?

          Right now this is where we are at:

          When EPRDF says “we will leave Badme but we need to talk first,” PFDJ says “you must leave first, because we don’t believe you.”

          When PFDJ says “leave Badme as ruled, and then we will talk about lasting relationships, EPRDF says “we need to talk first because we don’t believe you.”

          Now, since Eritrea is within its right to demand Ethiopian withdrawal, Ethiopia is also within its right to demand for viable arrangement regarding how to withdraw.

          If we must judge fairly, which one is more difficult and time consuming: to force communities to leave an area they lived in for generations which they think is theirs, or for a couple of leaders to sit on a round table and talk for couple of hours?

          I do understand that what PFDJ is doing now is what EPRDF did in the beginning. I remember Ethiopia refusing to talk unless Eritrea withdraws from territories it occupied by force. The difference is that when Ethiopia made that demand it believed/knew that it had the military upper hand, and it was preparing to dislodge Eritrea by force. However, Eritrea, for whatever reason, did not do that for the last 15+ years, and it does seem to be preparing to dislodge Ethiopia by force in the foreseeable future.

          If Eritrea is simply waiting until the world powers somehow, someday, force Ethiopia to withdraw, first: what guarantee is there for that to happen; and second: who is hurting the most while waiting?
          These were the ideas I was thinking about when I replied to Sabri about why I believe Ethiopia is being stubborn on the withdrawal.

          Selam.

  • Solomon Haile

    ሰላማት ኮኾብ ሰላም፡
    አዛ ኣረኢስቲ ኣገዳስነታ ሕይል ኢላ ኢያ ትመስል፡
    “አንካን ሃባን” ጉዳይ ባሕሪ ውን ብዙሓት ንምይይጥ ወይ ን ደለይቲ … I better come at you after I learn
    how to type…

    If only awate.com had the
    capacity to store/archive decade plus ago discussions…. But then again the glance
    and focus… lets focus on this current and future discussion now. (Now, do I
    have to practice thinking in Tigrigna too. JK)

    ሰለሙን ሃይለ

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Solomon Haile,

      joke of the day “(Now, do Ihave to practice thinking in Tigrigna too. JK)”. I will do my best to write in English. in fact I am using simple Tigrinya so to let everyone understand. typing in tigrinya is not that difficult what you need is practice. within short time you will be come faster than you are now.

  • Kokhob Selam

    ክቡራት እንዳ ዓዋተ :-

    እዚ ዓንቀጽ ቅልል ብዝበለ ኣገባብ ዝተዳለወ ንምምይጥን ክትዕን ብፍቱሕ ልቢ መገዲ ዝኸፍትን ክኸውን እዩ ኢለ ይኣምን :: ከም ግምተይ እንተኾይኑ እቶም መሰናኽላት ገና ብኣተሓሳስባና ዝተሓንጹ እዮም ኮይኖም ዝርኣዩኒ ገለ ንምባል :-

    ፩ – ጸገም ባድመ ብሓቂ ጸገም ድዩ ነይሩን ዘሎን :- ኣብ ሑሉፍ ዝተመያየጥናሉን ዝረኣናዮን ጉዳይ እዩ :: ክንደየናይ ስርዓት ህግደፍ ተጠቂምሉን መዝሚዙዎን ‘ውን ርኢናዮ ኢና : ብርግጽ መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ ነቲ ዝተወሰነ ውሳኔ ተቀቢሉ እንተዘልግስ ንህግደፍ ጥራዩ ምስ ኣውጸኦ : የግዳስ እቲ ኢትዮጵያዊ መንግስቲ ዝውስኖ ንሕና እንውንኖ ነገር ‘ውን ኣይኮነን :: ድሒረ ከም ዝገልጾ ውርዙይን ዱልዱልን መትከል ሒዙ ከእምኖም ዝኽእል ተቃዋሚ ዘይምህላው ኣተሓሳሳቢ ጉዳይ እዩ ::

    ፪ – ጉዳይ ወደብ ወይ ናይ ባሕሪ ኣፍ ደገ ንኢትዮጵያውያን ክንድዚ ኣገዳሲ ድዮ ዝብል ሕቶ ውን ቅድሚ ኹሉ ኣብ ሕጋዊ ዋንነት እዩ ዝምርኮስ : እቲ መንግስታት ኢትዮጵያ ዘካየድዎ ኣዝዩ ደማዊ ዝኾነ ዘመተታት ‘ውን ቀንዲ ዕላምኡ እዚ እዩ ዝነበረ :: እቲ ሓቂ ግን ኩሉ ዝፈሰሰ ደም ነቲ ጉዳይ ክፈትሖ ኣይከኣለን :- እቲ ምንታይሲ ኢትዮጵያ ነቲ ሕጋዊ መሬት ኤርትራ ብሓይላ – ዝኾነ ሓይሊ ትኣክብ ብዘየገድስ ክትውንኖ ስለ ዘይትኽእል :: እቲ እንኮ ምርጫ ኢትዮጵያውያን እምበኣር ኣብ እንካን ሃባን ዝተመስረተ ስምምዓት ፈጢርካ ናይ ሓባር ጠቅሚ ምርካብ እዩ ::

    ፫ – ሓደገኛነት ናይ ከባቢ – ጥሩፋትን ኣክረርትን ከቢቦምና ከምዘለው ንኹላትና ብሩህ እዩ :: እዚ ኸኣ ንኹልና ዝጎድእ ክ ውንነት እዩ ::ስርዓት ህግደፍ ብሓይሉ ስልጣን ሒዙ ንብዙሓት ቆራጻት ከስተናዕቅ እንከሎ :- ህዝቢ ቀልጢፉ መፍትሒ እንተዘይገይሩ ናይ ኣይ ኤስን ካለኦት ሓረድትን ናይ ምእታው ዕድል ከምዘሎ ክፍለጥ ኣለዎ :: ብርግጽ ኣይ ኤስ ክኣትዎ ብዙሕ ፈተነታት እንዳገበሩ እዮም:: እዛ ቦጅቧጅ መሪሕነት ነዚ ጨካን ጉጅለ ክትገጥሞ ከምዘይትኽእልን- እዞም ኣብ ወጻኢ ዘለው ኣህተፍትፍቲ ስድሪ ‘ኳ ከምዘይስጉምን ኩልና ንፈልጦ ኢና :: እቲ ጸገም ኣራእስ መራሕቲ ህግደፍ ሙቅራጹ ኣይኮነን ;እቲ ጸገም ኣብ ህዝብናን ሃገርናን ዝወርድ መዓት እዩ :: ስለዚ እቶም ኩሎም ንዕድመ ጥሩፋት ብምንጻግ ንሓባራዊ ሃገራዊ ምንቅስቃ ዝጋደሉ ዘለዎ ጀጋኑ ምስጋና ይግበኦም ::

    ፭ ጉዳይ እስላማዊ ምንቅስቃ ኢትዮጵያ :- እዚ ምንቅስቃስ ዕላምኡ ካበይ ናበይን ኣጸቢቅካ ምፍላጡ ኣገዳሲ እዩ :: እቲ ምንታይ ሲ ነቲ ዞና ‘ውን ስለ ዝጸልዎ :: መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ምፍታሕ እቲ ጸገም ጌጋታት ኣይነበሮን ክብል ኣይክእልን እየ : ግዳ ኸኣ እቲ ጸገም ገዚፍ ብምንባሩ ናይ ምፍታሕ ከይዲ ልዙብ ነይሩ ክብል ይኽእል ::ዝገርም ግን እዚ ዝዓይነቱ ምንቅስቃስ ንብዙሓት ዕሎማእን ኣባላት ሕ-ስበን ክስሕብ ምኽኣሉ እዩ:: እቶም ተጨኩኖም ዝነበሩ እስላም ኣብ ንጉሳዊ ስርዓት ይኹን ፋሽስታዊ ስርዓት ዝገበርዎ ዝነኣድ ቃልሲ ኣይነበረን : የግዳስ ኣብ ቁሩብ ኣንፈት ዲሞክራስያዊ ስርዓት ዝተፈጥረሉ እዋን- ክንዲዚ ምህንዳድን ንናይ ወጻኢ ሓይልታት መሳርሒ ምዃንን ኣዝዩ ዘሰክፍ ጉዳይ እዩ :: እስላም ሕ- ሰብ ንስልምና ጽቡቅ ክርደኦን ኣብ ዘይተደላይ ጎንጺ ካብ ምእታው ክቁጠብ ኣለዎ ::ጉዳይ እስልምና ምስ ዝለዓል ረቢ ድኣ ብራሕመቱ ይርሓም እምበር ኩሎም እስላም ሃገራት ዝኸድዎ ዘለው መገዲ ንሪኦ ኣለና :: ዲን ኣል እስላም ቅድሚ ኩሉ ነብስ ወከፍ ኣብ ዕለታዊ መነባብሮ ከጽፍፎም ዘለዎም ጉዳያት ኣለው ::ን ኣንበንት ሓንቲ ሾመንተ ዝሲሊንደራ መኪና ሒዙ ኣየር ጠባይ ዓለም ዘበላሹ ስበ ብዝኾነ ሃይማኖት ክዛረብን ክወራዘን ኣይግባእን እዩ:: እስልምና ኣዝዩ ጽፈት- እምነት – ሓቅነት -ፍቅርን -ሰላምን ወዘተ ዝእዝዝ ሃይማኖት እዩ ::

    ፮ – ኣብ ኢትዮጵያ ዝርከቡ ኤርትራውያን ተቃወምቲ ብዝምልከት ብዙሕ ተባሂሉ እዩ :: ሕማቅ ኣጋጣሚ ኮይኑ ተቃውምቲ ኣብ ርእሶም ዘለዎም እምነት ድኹም ብምዃኑን ካብ መስመር ካብ ዝወጸ ጥርጠራን ከም ምኽኒት እዮም ዘቅርብዎ :: ህግደፍ ‘ውን ነዚ ጽቡቅ ገይራ እያ ተጠቂማትሉ :: እቲ ሓቂ ግን ካብ ኢትዮጵያ እምዳዳዊ ( logistic) ሓገዝ ምርካብ ፍጹም ጌጋ ዘይምዃኑ ኢና ንግንዘብ::ኩሉ ኣብ ርእሰ ምትእምማንን ቅልጣፈን ተዓጻጻፍነትን እዩ ዝምርኮስ ነዛ ድሮ ነጻ ዝኾነትን ዓለም ለኽ ተፈላጥነትን ዝረኸበትን ሃገረ ኤርትራ ከይጎብጥዋ ዝብል ጥርጣረ ሓቅነት የብሉን :: መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ ካብ ‘ቶም ተረፍ መረፍ መንግስቱን ሃይለስላሴን ክብ ዝበለ ኣተሓሳስባ እንተዘይህልዎ ንኤርትራ ጎቢጡ ህግደፍ ከልግስ ምኻ ኣለ የግዳስ ናይ ህግደፍ ምልጋስን ሙግባጥን ዘረብሓሉ ጉዳይ ኣይኮነን ::

    ተቃውምቲ ኤርትራ ኣብ ኢትዮጵያ ምህላዎም ኣይኮነን እቲ ጸገም : እቶም ብህግደፍ ዝተገለፉን ዝተነጽጉን ዘህተፍትፍዎ ንጎኒ ገዲፍካ:- ሓላፍነት ወሲድካን ንመንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ ብተግባር ድጋፎም ክቅጽሉ ምግባርን – ካብ ባድመ ከልግሱ ምጽላዎምን – ከም ወካሊ ህዝቢ ተዓጢካ ምስራሕን -ብውሽጥን ደገን ዝተውሃሃደ ቃልሲ ምክያድን መገዲ ዓወት እዩ ኢለ ይኣምን:: የቀንየለይ ::

    • AOsman

      Kokhobey nebsi,

      My reading skill in Tigrigna is the “Mehayim” level, so slow I usually give up half way. It would be good to heed Abi advice and go for English to reach most of the readers. Now I have to ask Abi to do the loud reading or latinise it and in return I translate it for him……

      Regards
      AOsman

      • Abi

        Hi AOsman
        I do anything for you. I can even Arabize it if you want.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Abo,
          forget other languages. I want you to type Ge’ez fonts. if you do so I will give you a gift that you never expect. Godndere should be perfect in Amharic language and Kerinetay should be perfect in Tigre language. I don’t know why but I love people who use their language fluently.

          • AOsman

            Dear Kokhob,

            Maybe you misunderstood me, I read Tigrigna, but am frustratingly slow at it. I took Amharic and later Tigrigna after independence as afternoon classes only. When you have to deal with 4 or more languages at the same time, learning them was not fun, but felt a burden.

            With the use of English you reach a bigger pool of Eritreans and Ethiopians who do not know Tigrigna.

            Abi – tell me Tenkire Temar…Temar Temaramer….(like that inspirational Year 3 Amharic poem), slowly my speed is improving in both our official languages….Not only Arabic and Tigrigna, I will get my old Amharic proficiency back, God willing.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear AOsman,
            I got it. tks

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Aosman,
        really? how comes you don’t read Tigrinya ? I can’t believe an Eritrean with such knowledge in Eritrea don’t know at least 2 languages and beside Tigrinya and Arabic. if you are less than 50, you should start to learn those two languages and be fluent . you are full of wisdom and you can give your best to your people for next 50 years.

  • Solomon Haile

    Selamat Awatistas,

    Do you guys recall Mr. T “I pity da fool” from A Team. Awate Team: Indeed “…A Focus on the Future” I will drink to that!

    Solomon