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2001: A Sample From The “Readers Said” Seciton

A 2001 sample page from the “Readers Said” section, which was similar toLetters To The Editor. As you will see, we used to reply to most of the comments until we discontinued the section in about a year after we launched a discussion forum. The following sample page is from the archive; we thought it might help compare the topics that preoccupied Eritreans in 2001 to what preoccupies them now.///Editor, awate.com


Why Not Government Followers?
berhane.tekie, February 2, 2001

Hi brother,

To interview different persons and let the readers to know more about their opinion is great. But in all of your interviews done with different Eritreans, your choice were strange. You chose only persons against the government. Why not government followers living outside our country (not government officials).

Why did you interview for example just Dawit Mesfin of the G-13 but not the others ?

EDITOR’S NOTE: Awate.com does not use an ideological test when selecting candidates for interviews.  We are seeking interesting Eritreans, public Eritreans, who have interesting and insightful ideas–not slogans and cliches–that address Eritrea’s history and future and whose views will stimulate the minds of our readers AND are willing to be interviewed by us.  This was the criteria used in selecting Dawit Mesfin for the first interview. It goes without saying that we are actively pursuing interviews with several GoE officials and, as soon as we succeed, their interviews will be published.

“A Critical Mass”
Mehary Bahta, February 2, 2001

In his ‘Necessity to Question’ article, Samson Isaac brings out several important issues about the direction that the Eritrean Revolution is taking. When do revolutions end? Well, I guess when the goal is reached. Are we there yet? is the question my kids would ask every time we go on a trip.

Is this observable? Definitely. Encrata defines revolution as “a dramatic change in idea or practice”. In politics it would be the overthrow of a government, a ruler or a political system.  Revolution is an awakening that occurs in human culture brought about by ‘a critical mass’ of individuals. This awakening represents the creation of a new, more complete view, and replaces the preoccupation with secular survival and comfort of old times.

I was surprised by Samson’s definition of a revolution in his statement….”when respect and consideration are not reciprocated between people and government there will be lack of revolution”. I believe that because there was a loss of respect and consideration between people and government that a revolution occurs. As dramatic as it is, revolution can also be violent.

Now that we have achieved our goal, what is next? We need to identify and protect what is critical from inevitable uncertainty, avoiding failure while accounting for ‘Murphy’s Law’.

From what I have been observing lately after all the struggle for liberation from Ethiopia, the Eritrean Revolution has come a full circle. Putting revolutionary ideas to work is not quite as easy as flipping a switch. It requires a real change in how resources and priorities are managed. We are now at a point where we have to assure that the critical resources are available when needed. Weather we end up with a ‘multi party’ or a ‘one party system’, what we really have to worry about in this context are the critical chain tasks, since they most directly determine the success of all our combined efforts.

We can do it. We will do it. We have to do it.
We will sing our National anthem together.

Wishing Improvements on The Fertile Womb
Asmerom Abraham Negasi, February 2, 2001

There are numerous websites and news groups relating to Eritrea. I do read articles and suggestions of the other web pages as well as awate.com.  But the series “Fertile Womb” sparked my interest on Eritrea’s proud past history. I have learned great deal from the articles that [?] awate.com is offering us. In short I just want to thank you for this section and I look forward to seeing this section improve and cover more intensively on our past and current history as well as on our heroes and giants.

Keep up the good job

Valuable Encouragment
HABTU DEBESAY, February 2, 2001

I THINK YOU DOING A GREAT JOB BY PROVIDING THE ERITREAN PEOPLE  NEWS FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT, WHAT GOES ON IN THE ERITREAN AFFAIR INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. I BELIEVE AWATE IS WATCHING US COMMUNICATING TO EACH OTHER VIA THIS SITE WHICH IS DEDICATED TO AWATE. KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB AND GOOD LUCK.

False Election!
Aden Zeray, February 2, 2001

I respect every thing which is Written in awate web site because that is the opinion of the other peoples. If I can not swallow the truth or refuse the rights of others what they want to say, what will differentiate me from PDEJ. PEDJ is stand against all human right of our people. PEDJ leaders some times telling as how and where democracy is working, in late 2000 Issaias’ interview he was telling as there is no real democracy in America, if he believe so why he doesn’t show as which one is real democracy other than his dictatorial style. We saw his type of leadership in the last 2 years, and he knows, now, what our peoples are thinking about the change and he planned to deceive the people by false election. If you go to any where in Africa now a days peoples know what election means! How the leaders deceive! To our surprise the previous Ethiopian leader Mengistu was doing the same strategy but it doesn’t save him. Issaiass and Mengistu , for that matter woyane, are the same except their names, they do not care about human right and war every where if they don’t sleep well they decide they have to start war tomorrow. Both men do not have good relation with there neighbours, they do not attempt to solve by peace but when the defeated they accepted and that surprised me! What about you!.

Setting Good Examples
Besma y., February 2, 2001

Selamat,

Let me first congratulate you for all your endeavors to bring together so many good writers with so many thought provoking national issues.It is really great to see a site that is doing good for the interest of the nation…or, so I believe.

Many of your readers may not agree with me, but, to my mind there is a burning issue of character of those who are at the helm of affairs in Eritrea that seems to be over looked or, is it a deliberate policy of the Awate team and its participants(!?) to keep away because of  what may be termed as personal affairs by many as an excuse. I do not agree with such opinions, if any, as long as you are a public figure. Let me explain. It is a widely known fact that our leaders do indulge themselves with what may be termed by some as “nice things in life” while I do agree with many of the believers of personal freedom…if you call it that…is it not true that our leaders are not supposed to be all that free and that some scarifies is supposed to come with the territory? Are they not setting bad example to many youngsters to see our leaders drinking so openly some times to the extend of total intoxication? is it not heart breaking to hear your leaders not maintaining certain decency in their personal and family lives and putting many young ladies in the family way in total disregard to the society and their values?

I think this is a very important issue that should be debated.

Thank you.

Writing In Tigrigna
Habtom mebrahtu. February 2, 2001
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Dear Awate.com web site.

why don’t Eritrean writers write in our language, Tigrigna? We can read their English later. I think it better for us Eritreans to read information about what is going on in Tigrigna.
Thank you

FROM SAMMY TO HAYET
SammyG, January 31, 2001

[NB. Hayet is an exclusive mailing list whose members are invited to join from among the ‘Hafash’ subscribers of an Eritrean Website. This message was copied to awate.com]

Selam Hayet Folks,

I feel guilty for spilling over a rumor mill onto this mailing list.

But please allow me to vent my frustration. Just when I thought the unnecessary rumors about the ministerial reshuffles were disappointing enough, I get to hear this on EDF commanders.

Over the weekend, some friends were anxious to tell me about Maj. General Berhane Gebregziabher. Apparently, he’s been “fired” from EDF, whatever that means.

Anyway, those who told me so would not tell me about their sources. Obviously, they heard it from “someone.” Mind you, unlike my other Eritrean friends, these guys are not into the digital age. So I ruled out the Internet as their source. At least not direct source. Then something hit me. I remember the last time I logged on to awate.com (very long time ago) [by long ago, the writer probably means 11 days ago] there was a “report” on the sacking of an EDF commander. So I suspected awate.com again. And awate.com it is.[Eureka!]

I’m disgusted to see awate.com going to such pains, i.e., delving into military matters, to “inform” readers. Even if the story is true, which I highly suspect is not, awate.com should leave such “news” to the military itself. Awate.com will never know what really goes on inside the Eritrean military. And definitely will not know why. So, this pretentious insider/inquirer position is a dangerous one. [Some would say, the “inquirer/insider position” is what information media ought to assume]

Besides, if awate.com could not get its story right on ministerial reshuffles (such as Hamid Hmid’s), [Hamid Himd was not a Minister and was not reshuffled] how in the world does it expect to “inform” us on the intricate nature of EDF’s military measures? [check and verify is a simple open secrete]

Anyway, awate.com’s reporting style is risky and short-sighted; its credibility rests upon the dependability of its speculators/sources. And as is always the case with risk-seeking or speculative behavior, as its rumor mill expands, so will its margin of error. Thus, awate.com is only setting itself up for a big disappointment further down the road. [thank you, we assume it is a genuine concern]

Unfortunately, instead of reasoning about values and principles, the site has fully embarking upon the frowned and intellectually corrupt world known as gossip. [In the absence of free-press, Gedab News is the best one can expect and get]

EDITOR’S NOTE: Thank you for your concern Sammy G. However, we beg you to prove us wrong regarding the news of the General. If you can dig the truth deeper than we did, you would do the Eritrean public a good information service… and of course, awate.com would publish an apology. If your position is that even if it is true, it shouldn’t be published, (and that seems to be the case from your writing) please remember that one of the reasons we are in the mess we are in is because our government is so secretive and our citizens are not demanding transparency and accountability from their govt.  

The military is run through a party infrastructure and not answerable to a supreme power but to party politicians. Therefore, the military case understandably is treated as a political case. Promotions and demotions are not necessarily on merits because in the current situation, politics play an important role and hurts the professionalism of the army. 

Dear Sammy, there is a role for everyone in the Eritrean medium.  Some choose to be government advocates asking, “what more can our citizens do to please the government?” type of questions; some think they are a vacuum to hand a microphone to a government official to squeeze more and more money from the exhausted citizen; and others think citizens are not here to serve their government but governments are here to serve their citizens.  You can speak truth to power or you can be opted by power and corrupted.  It is called freedom of the press and that is one of the many reasons you and I live in exile… of course, some exiles are forced others are voluntary.

Dear Sammy G, there was Pravda today there are mediums who would do anything to emulate Pravda. However, the days of the Eritrean Pravdas are on the countdown. You see, some time ago, there was Dehai, Asmarino, Meskerem and Visafric. Last year, Awate was born. This year, other Eritrean websites are mushrooming. A few of these websites use English/Tigrigna (Asmarino, Visafric); others English only (Dehai), others English/Tigrigna/Arabic (Meselna.com) and still others Arabic and English only (Hafash.com). Goggle on the Internet and I am sure you would find astounding number of websites.  I expect the Cyber space to overcrowded very soon. Many, many, many, many more will spring up.  This might shock some people out of whatever little convenient store they are in.  Whoever thinks he reigns and others do not exist should think properly. Plus, you tell them you expect many, many, many more to spring up. Secrecy will be no more.

WISHING US GOOD LUCK
(1)Tekle Melekin, January 31, 2001

I think you are doing very well. You are a very good example of what an Eritrean in Diaspora can “also” be. Your web site is, definitely, helping many Eritreans to understand their own history and complete. Good Luck!

(2)Tekeste Ogbamicael

I would like to appreciate what Awate.ocm is doing. This is  what is missing in our eritrean community be open to others ideas and suggestions.it is working and keep it up. That is the only way we Eritrean can learn from each other. The gap created by GOE  is wide ,but we can norrow it down by being open to others suggestions give more time for listening than to talking.Respect ,listen,  talk and compromise when necessary. These are the basic for meaningfull democratic discussions. Thank you Awate.com for giving us this chance.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Thank you sirs

Inda Awate?”
Akilas, January 31, 2001

I like Saleh Younis’ interview column, I like the idea of Arabic Forum, I like the idea of the Fertile Womb, I like the idea of Gedab News, and I also like your idea of displaying pictures of Eritrean past.

I don’t like the big presence of the Webmaster, though. It is nice to have an alternative outlook in Awate, but it feels that it is run like a print medium- further from the ideal of all to one, one to all communication of the Internet groups. Much like ANDY & SAM_SOLICITORS web page that provides
their own information to the public. Awate comes opinionated and as a finished product supplying its product to the readers, allowing very little room for the rest to take it us “our” Eritrean site.

Nothing wrong with that, but it is worth noting its top-down approach, and obviously different from the Eritrean pages-Asmarino, Dehai and Visafric sites. In fact, it reminds me not of EPLF or ELF but of Inda Abdella, Inda Ajib, etc…a private run faction that claims to care for all of Eritrea.

If I were the chieftain at Awate COM…

1. Congratulate Saleh Younis with his interviews, and may be ask him to broaden his column to include feedback from readers and response from our respected Eritrean luminaries.
2. Arabic Forum: is a good idea, but what are they discussing over there? Some excerpts please for those of whom the Arabic language is double-dutch.
3. Fertile Womb: please keep it up and include OTHERS (not only EPLF members but even Qeshi Dimetros’ camp too).
4. Gedab News…keep it up it is a forerunner to our colourful democracy to come.
5. Picture galore: Keep it up and inform us of any “updates”.
6. The Pencil: As far as I am concerned it is rubbish and it should be binned, I don’t like the presentation there.

Hold on…but then if you listen to me you will be not so different after all?! Oh, well I have vented my feeling and what ever you do I am reading you everyday- best wishes with the web.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Thank you for your input, that is why we decided to publish this test page under the “Readers Said…” section. please continue to watch us for we can err.

You Have The Nerve! [Yes, we do] Name not given, January 30, 2001

You call this imposter [Ahmed Nasser] a “… giants, visionaries and selfless patriots?” Then again, “in the land of the blind, one eyed is a king!” We respect his right to call Badime Eritrean so long as he respects our right to call all of Eritrea Ethiopian.
Good day!

EDITOR’S NOTE: We will always have our giants, visionaries and patriots; we are not imposing them on anybody. 

“Weak presence of women …concerns us” Was Bad Taste
Mehary Bahta, January 30, 2001

Dear Awate.com or whoever respondes to ‘Readers Comments’

First, would like to congratulate you for your very resourceful website. A lot of very interesting comments are made on your pages and I have enjoyed them very much. However, you do not seem to take critisizm easily. On your answers to people who wrote to you, you are very defensive and use non-conciliatory language. In your response to a Senait Yemane you said…”though we are not champions of afirmative action, the weak presence of the women in Eritreans forums does concern us”. This comment is in bad taste. I am a male and do not refer to the presence of Eritrean women in Message Forums “weak”. There are quite a few of them out there, if they are given equal oportunuty to participate they can articulate a lot better than most males I know. I know my comment won’t make it to your feedback page, but I hope that you would at least read it to yourself.
Thanks for the opportunity,

EDITOR’S NOTE: Eritrean Women who write on the Internet are less that 1%, that does concern us. We consider it a weak presence. I am sure you didn’t mean to say you are satisfied with the few number. There are many good women-writers, we believe they should be encouraged to write in public. We consider criticism from readers a blessing. We now that someone is watching. On the contrary, please do point to us whenever you feel there is something worth criticizing…thank you 

THE   REVOLUTIONARY FLAME IS SPREADING  ALL OVER  ERITREA

Amare Gebre, January 28, 2001

Eritrea was liberated after 30 years of armed struggle  in 1991. About 200,000 Eritreans are martyred,  disabled for the cause of Eritrean freedom and the social –economic liberation. Yes as of May 1991 Eritrea is waving an EPLF/PFDJ flag, but nothing else has changed in reality for the Eritrean people. The people have become silent observers and passive participants in all walks of life and political activities of the country who paid so much for it’s freedom. In fact Eritreans are living in fear.

Responsible and revolutionary Eritreans are struggling to:
** Establish the political rights of the Eritrean people,
**Rectify what the dictatorial regime caused on Eritrean properties and culture,
** Erect political democracy in Eritrea.

Some Eritreans who couldn’t cope up with the present day revolutionary struggle of democratic process are trying to revile their incompetence as part of the dictatorial regime, in conferences, on the internet, and other media. Herui T Bairu is one of these people. I thoroughly read his resent articles, interviews by Saleh Younis and watched his videocassette. I would like to summarize what he tried to convey on those instances.

– The PFDJ government can lead Eritreans to the formation of democratic Eritrea  with all of its shortcoming.
– The constitution is already ratified and can easily be improved in the years ahead.
– Political parties can be formed only if we participated in the year 2001 elections.
–  Some members of the Eritrean Alliance used to choose military solution to solve political  differences and it is wrong in contemporary Eritrea.
-The Eritrean National Alliance is fake.

Ahmed Nasser the former ELF chair man might agree with Herui, but I strongly reject it  because:

Herui is A BOOMERANG BIZARRE POLITICIAN FULL OF MONKEY TRICKS ON HIS BACK. Here are some of his political activities which clarify why I call him A BOOMERANG.

In 1977 being a member of the clandestine internal movement for the democratization of the ELF he unilaterally called for emergency national congress of the ELF. This action caused a set back for the movement.

He abandoned EDM because he was not elected at the conference held in Khartoum Sudan and went to Iraq and then resided in Sweden.

He claims EDM was split and his group joined the EPLF while he is the only one who went to Eritrea and ended up being gum Arabic trader.

He preaches as if there is political tolerance in Eritrea being in Sweden even though he had never had conducted a single conference, seminar, or political gathering inside Eritrea to air his views. He thinks this bluff could secure him a seat in the PFDJ orchestrated parliament.

Herui is intelligent well educated and with a lot of political ideas, but lacks the determination, courage and patience to stand and fight for what he believes is right.

Other Eritreans with the highest degree of educational achievement say Eritrean opposition forces so far failed to create an effective opposition. I would like to say to them, open your eyes and your mind. Formation of ERITREAN NATIONAL ALLIANCE is not fragmentation, but revolutionary process to democratization. The CHARTER of the ERITREAN NATIONAL COALITION is step in the right direction in solving the political crisis in Eritrea. Educated Eritreans should not wait some groups to bring them political solution, but lead the revolutionary process glowing inside and outside Eritrea. Education is not knowledge, but action. So do your part  Eritrea needs your energy and your ideas.

Some may say why revolutionary change rather than reform? I would like to direct my readers to the article I wrote which was aired in the web site of asmarino.com in December 2000 in Tigrigna under the heading TRANSITION TO THE FORMATION OF DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL SYSTEM IN ERITREA (It says by Yosan Gebremariam who is my daughter. I apologize for the error).

All the peaceful means of transition to political democracy in Eritrea have failed

1). DIALOGUE with PFDJ dictatorial regime got deaf ears. Every Eritrean knows what name brand the dictatorial regime gives to opposition organizations, political movements and political groups.

2) PEOPLE’S POWER that is mass voice of wrong doing by the regime, demonstrations against actions of the regime, gatherings of citizens were and are being met with bullets. The demonstrations of the war wounded and disabled former freedom fighters were disbanded with guns. The people who tried to show their opposition to the formation of the ZONES instead of the long-lived AWRAJAS ended up in prisons. Villagers who tried to protect their land got shot and those who survived the guns herded to jail.

3) PUBLICATIONS which don’t carry the views of the dictatorial regime have been sacked and authors or editors thrown into jails.

The damage on Eritrea and the Eritrean People is done by the PFDJ regime, and it is time to get organized for the remedy that should be a revolutionary. That will be the day political democracy would prevail in Eritrea  with  our effort struggle and sacrifices.

Saleh Younis might learn something from ERE-TV!
Asmerom Medhanie, January 28, 2001

I want to comment on your (Other)Sal’s Case Against ‘Hadas Eritra’.

Considering the “interview’s” chit-chatty nature which lacked vigor and rigor in its questions for Mr. Mesfin, I would say ‘hadas Eritra’s’ ‘simuaq’ captures the gist of the hallow message that you were trying to convey.

Right now I am not sure whether you are for free press or “selective” press. After all you have decided to ingore such insightful citique of your methods given by Dr. Khalid [the writer certainly means Dr. Kemal] by simply renaming your interviews “dialogues” rather than working on improving the way you interview such characters as Hiruy and Dawit. Not to mention that “criquet” thing you wrote which ridiculed your “champion of the free press” status.

In short you need to excercise the same objectivity that you are demanding from others. I suggest you take a look at the recent video of the interview that Issayas gave to Eri-Tv. You might learn something.

wocho entegelbeTkayo wecho
Redda Berhane, January 28, 2001

Dear Awate.com, I have written you other articles, but may be you don’t have places to put my articles or my appreciations for your web, I have never seen it. I hope now you will not throw this one. I read your interviews with Herui Bairu. It was an excellent journalism. I am preparing to write about it.

This is a re-response to the critics Ghezae Hagos Berhe on Response to Herui’s. I was surprised to see a well educated person crticising for the sake of criticism. Looking at his writings, expressions and historical knowledge-I would have seen him in a democratic country perusing his democratic devoires. Just to mention-since some one who is absent from his county for two years is legally dead, and ELF is absent for twenty years, so it is dead; then the immense people in Diaspora who financed and is financing the EPLF (PFDJ) for its wars, for more than thirty years is legally dead. That means PFDJ or EPLF is collecting funds from people who are legally dead. And I hope the writer himself has never been absent for two years or a legally dead person is advocating for the survival of a dictator who does not know him.

What Herui explained about the so called “Eritrean Constitution” is perfect. I am sure you have it in English. I have it in Tigrigna. There is no mention of political parties. And if you want to compare your article 19(6) with the constitution of other countries, it is not the constitution of other countries that we Eritreans are interested, but only Eritrean constitution which will serve to all Eritreans without distinction, even those who are LEGALLY DEAD. As for the constitution, IF IT IS ONE, it is written for those who dictated it and not for those who wrote it, neither for the people.

As an Eritrean I read “Highi Indaba” and their latest reunions. Compared to your constitution, it was far more democratic. To say that a coalition in a country is a disaster is a lame excuse for dictatorship. Even our grand parents have lived in harmony with their different laws for each awraja. You should take an example of them. It is a shame for someone who thinks that he knows more than anybody to say that the dit constitution views ethnical and sexual equality, we Eritreans have an elected president, a parliament which someone can compare with that of other democratic countries. You can say whatever you want to say, but reality is autrement. In your conclusion you are saying that after few months you are going to judge the results of the dit constitution. You should be very naive to believe a change in a dictatorial regime as long as the dictators are in place. There may be changes, internal, but as our proverb says, WOCHO INTEGHELBETKAYO WOCHO IYU. So many crimes have been committed by EPLF or PFDJ, and I don’t think they will let the people the chance to judge them in letting him (the people) the right to political parties, the right to speak, write,…etc.

What we fear now is another round of war with the Sudanese government. just because the war with Ethiopia is quasi finished, and not changes, elections…etc. And at last, do not pray for the Eritrean people to rest in the jaws of the hyenas, pray to deliver them from that.

The Message Was Not Delivered on  Camel’s Back
Senait Yemane, January 26, 2001

Dear Awate.com publishers,

While searching the net, I came across an old email I had written to your attention some months back. I feel obligated to provide a reply to your email and offer some recently acquired observations relating to awate.com.

First, I deliberately omitted a title for my last piece after experiencing frustration with your selection process for posting. While I stand too painfully aware of your reserved rights to post or reject materials, I am hopelessly forever at loss as to the criteria applied to select and reject articles. However, I just wish a criterion was made available. Presently, I can only explicate a criterion based on friendship and complimentary substance, which, needless to say, has its own adverse effect on the overall quality and direction of this website and may perhaps deserve a recognition, admiration, and sympathetic solidarity for its exclusion of other views, an act that happens to contradict elementary principles of tolerance.

If I am wrong, please correct me. Doesn’t exclusion necessarily mean intolerance? I no longer question your mission. I fact, I did not mean to question your mission in the past. It is stated in bold, black and white, for everyone to read and hear. Your mission reads in part “… is to promote tolerance and reconciliation…” and you advise potential contributors to “write in a manner that would encourage dialogue and understanding.” So, I do not question what is written to read. I question the fairness and the process that leads into posting articles. It is the process I seriously question. My articles are NOT attempts to cow you into anything. I won’t even venture to attempt it. I am only questioning the process that, in turn, questions the sincerity of your stated mission.

I still criticize awate.com for harboring unacceptable and unpalatable forms of hate. The fact that you harbor hate needs not to be stated directly by you. Look at the quoted lines of your stated mission, and read articles authored by Dawit Mesfun. I do not care if he has issues with the GOE. I care less. However, I take issues with his gender based hate he espouses. Case in point: An article titled De-Hidaatizing. These sorts of male chauvinist articles are simply unacceptable. It is a form of hate and hatism. The guise of such articles is simply gender and undermines hard-won women’s liberty. If you guys have issues with the current political order, it is your rights and I do not care. However, when such immature articles are posted on a website supposedly advocate of tolerance, I take it with a grain of salt. I harbor no hate for the innocent. I, however, harbor all sorts of hate for those who despise the female gender! That much hate I harbor, and I openly admit it. Nevertheless, I do not harbor hate out of the blue sky. I do however harbor hate directed to those whose goals seems to degrade the female gender and establish a condescending reemphasis on hierarchical male-female relationship that, paradoxically, secralizes the very notion of tolerance.

Your observation, with some glee, registers that “reconciliation demands that we free our selves from trampling over the rights of others. Reconciliation doesn’t mean submission nor does it mean a master-serf relationship. Reconciliation is achieved on equal footing and on mutual respect…” But, am I to understand that you respect everyone’s rights except those of the female gender?

Recent observations: Awate.com is no different from other WebPages. I judge them based on two criteria. First, Diversity of the topics and views of topics in discussion, and Second, diversity of the authors. All webpages fail on both accounts. I guess it must be an Eritran thing.

With respect to all genders,

EDITOR’S NOTE: Dear Senait, I don’t know what to make of your writings. First you came as a person who is concerned about reconciliation. Then you switch gears to pose as a gender defender though there was nothing to stand up against… at least in this setting. The striking point though is, that you, having made serious allegations over three months ago, last October , against the tolerance level of this site, and having in a way challenged us to post your ‘article’ , didn’t even bother to check whether  your message was published or not. You wrote that you accidentally came across your message while surfing the web.  Why challenge others if you are not up to the challenge Senait? It just doesn’t make sense to make accusations based on nothing and then sleep on issues. You accused us for ignoring your articles, which we never received. You challenged us to publish your message; we took your challenge and we did publish it; it took you three months to find out.  What are you up to Senait?

Writing in public forums is taxing and it entails being criticized, challenged and very often, insulted. Those who are not up to the taxation and can’t handle it are better off keeping away from such forums. You mentioned Dawit’s article that is about four months old as an excuse to depict awate.com as a gender biased site. Not forgetting the fact that your subject, that was mentioned in the said article is more than capable of defending herself, she writes publicly and all public writers are not immune to criticism and challenges to their ideas. When writers in awate begin to debate or criticize a writer, twe don’t tell them to  start by questioning the gender, race, ethnicity or other identities of the writer. Simply, there is no preferential treatment to selective identities. Now it is our turn to challenge you: prove that anything ever published in awate,com  was gender biased, I hope you will take the challenge!

I will skip your question of whether this site  “respect everyone’s rights except those of the female gender?” because it is simply outrageous to even think in these terms, please think about your chain of accusation less you be accused for lack of objectivity by the readers.

I will not go over what I wrote in my previous comment to your message regarding tolerance and reconciliation… that would simply be monotonous. However, if you have anything to say about the subject, you are more than welcome to write and we will be glad to publish it.

Finally, please note that though we are not champions of affirmative action, the weak presence of the women in the Eritreans forums does concern us a lot. We hereby take this opportunity to invite you to write and encourage other women to write more often. Needless to say, I am hoping that you will read this comment of mine soon enough because I would not enjoy a message from you three months from today, telling me that you accidentally came across this message while surfing the Web!

We Believe It IS Just An Opinion!
Ilyas Hrui, January 25, 2001

Wouldn’t it be presumption of you to speak of dead conscience while you are yourself a victim of such ailment? How come that you have even showed great grief at the fate of Mohammad AL-durra while you haven’t even once mentioned about the fate of Eritreans in Ethiopia? Is that because they are presumed to be overwhelmingly Christian? What about the terrorist acts committed by the Islamic Jihad? Are their deeds in your opinion heroic? Why are you so quick to point the finger of accusation towards the PFDJ while at the same time showing reluctance at being critical towards those forces who commit crimes in the name of Islam? Irrespective whether Mr. Mohammad Khair and his children were victims of the Eritrean government- I know that there have been internal differences within the Jihadist movements located in Sudan like that between Al-Turki and others which have sometimes led to bloodshed- why did you fail to mention in your report that Mr. Mohammad Khair was not a peaceful old man you wanted us to believe?

Let me tell you this: before tackling such complicated issues like dead or alive  conscience try to pay attention to your biased disinformation. Don’t you ever get ashamed of yourself for giving space to those people who claim everyday the victims and the heroes of the Eritrean armed struggle for independence were Moslems? Mr. Awate is a hero but does that mean he is more heroic than say Issaias Afeworki or any other ordinary fighter of the EPLF? After all Mr. Awate only spent few years in Medan until he died and his dreams of liberating Eritrea was only made a reality thanks to Issaias Afeworki and EPLF although there is in this regard reluctance on the side of some Moslems to accept that indisputable fact.

My advice to you is this: don’t exaggerate the achievements of people like Mohammed Nasser for religious and sectarian reasons while down playing the heroic deeds of others because they happen to be Christians or not of your ethnic group.

Some of your participants complain of Christian presence in areas like Gash-Barka. I don’t understand what their point is behind that kind of allegations. Do they want ethnic cleansing like that of Bosnia? Or, do they wish to see the presence of Christians in Gash-Barka buried in its soil as liberators and not living and farming in its surface? The same could apply to the former province of Sahel.

Those who accuse other of possessing DEAD CONSCIENCE should first check theirs that includes you, Mr. Web-master!

salaam!

EDITOR’S NOTE: You are angry because the something you hold very dearly was criticized; what you read was an anger because the rights of citizens were neglected and violated. 

The article in question criticizes the government for not doing anything to protect its citizens in the Sudanese refugee camps; you are making comparisons as if some blood is thicker than other blood. Crimes committed against civilians, be it by the Jihad, the government, or by a any version of extremism is condemned. However, it doesn’t mean that whenever one writes about a certain incident, the chronology of all previous crimes should be lined with the incident at hand. 

Why do you bring Jihad to the issue? If you know something, please educate us. We don’t know about the things that you are hinting because the PFDJ does not inform its citizens of what is happening in Eritrea. But if you were using ‘Jihad” as an emotional blackmail, this website is immune to that attempt.

You ask: why the finger pointing at the PFDG while showing reluctance at pointing fingers at those who commit crimes in the name of Islam. 

Why do you put PFDJ and Islam in two palms as if they are some sort of competitors? What is the common denominator? I fail to understand. Again, in the article that angered you, there was no mention of Mohammed Khair being innocent or not. It mentioned only that his murder was an act of cowardice whether it was committed by religious people as you claim, or by Atheists. But since you seem to know, please educate our readers about the not-so-innocent Mohammed Khair… while at it, please also explain to us the crime his two killed and three wounded children committed.

You disapprove of this website giving space to writers whose ideas you do not like. Rest assured, there will be many who do not like your ideas, still, we are giving you space just like we gave space to those you would certainly consider “them”.

You advised us not to “exaggerate the achievements of people like Mohammed Nassr for religious and sectarian reasons while down playing the heroic deeds of others because they happen to be Christians or not of your ethnic group.”. I wish you understand what you just wrote. I also wish you practiced that yourself. Please point to us where we exaggerated the achievements of Ahmed Nasser…though we know that he doesn’t need anyone exaggerating his achievements–how about a life long struggle for starters? We don’t blame you for believing the way you do.. there are roots to that. What all concerned Eritreans are doing is trying to stop those roots before they grow any further. 

Finally, I would have liked to reply to your comments regarding the complicated issue of ethnic homeland and land rights, but since you present it as a simple issue in a shallow manner, I prefer to stop here.

HISTORY HAS ROOTS.  
Gebru M , January 16, 2001

I appreciate Saleh Gadi’s article of Jan. 7, 2001 “All from the fertile womb”.

As I understand it, the allocation by Awate.com such a column for such a noble idea is a dignity to the web and a forum to the literates and historians who in recent months are awakening from a long self imposed hibernation. A forum that any able citizen can present his views , comments, historical facts and arguments. A vital phenomenon I can dare say that we Eritreans lacked until very recently. Eventhough very few argued for it and tried to be examplary. The very phenomenon that left us to be the echoes of divisive arrogant rhetorics whose words and deeds never much.

Now, let me return to my subject. I hope we all know that Eritrea is not the overnight creation of colonial invasion. It is a country with deep-rooted history and culture. To mention a few, its geographical position made it to be the threshold for so many wonderful civilizations, valuable cultures famous historical events. Its geographical position again recognizes it to be the gate way to Ethiopia’s past and present glories and agonies. In short it will not be a betrayal or an exaggeration even if one admits that geophysically, socio economically, in faith, custom, culture, tradition and kinship that Eritrea and Ethiopia are part and parcel. This       also very well matches the recent rhetoric we are hearing from the present leadership in Eritrea about the oneness of the two politically divided peoples.

Before 60 years when the political air over Eritrea started to be saturated as my dear brother Saleh indicated in his article our fathers were divided into groups.

The one group based its arguments on historical, cultural, social and traditional links. And the other group on the vintage remnants of alien colonial political ideals. I think this is the reason that pushed brother Saleh to group our fathers as heroes and villains or the famous and the notorious. The worst thing now is to see the work of our famous, which we all applaud fall into notorious hands.

This very fact seems to have an impact on us to retrace our past in all its positive and negative aspects.

Now, that I have come to the limit of my little knowledge I leave it to the many talented elderly and the educated and courageous Eritreans to enlighten us on the roots of history and its effects to shape our future existence as a dignified people.

GLORY IS TO ALL MARTYRS WITHOUT BORDERS.

Januay 6, 2001

Selamat Readers in general and Huruy in particular   I am writing this short post in response to huruy’s post regarding government and religion. Before I start my response I would like to commend awate.com and its administrators for allowing people with different values and opinions to post in a civilized and respectful manner. I have always beleived that Eritreans were more respectful and courteouse than those whose postings we read in the other Eritrean web. Huruy, you infered from Ismail’s post that Eritrea needs demcracy not any democracy but democracy but democracy that is strictly based on religiouse values.   I read Ismail’s post also but my understanding of it is a bit different than yours (especially regarding this point). I did not read any statement or paragraph in Ismail’s post that can lead to your inference, as a matter of fact what I think he wrote (I am paraphrasing) Eritrea needs a democracy that respects the value of religion. What is the difference? the difference is in a democracy that respects the values of religion one can practice his or her religion with out having to fear of being accused of being a fundamentalist Islamist or christian. In a democracy based strictly based on religiouse values you violate the rights of those who do not beleive in any religion.In a democracy that respect the values of religion you give the people of different faiths to understand and respect each other. in a democracy based strictly based on religiouse values you can’t help it but favor one religion over the other. because if you are to establish a system based on any religiouse value, whose relifious values are you going to base it on. one thing can be of religiouse value to Mohammed but not to Kidane. How can you be fare to both Mohammed and Kidane? by establishing a system that doesn’t favor any religion or faith over another yet give Mohammed and Kidane to live their lives the way they want. If they choose to be strictly religiouse or “spritual” do not harras them do not make any unfair baseless conclusions about them. If they want to grow beard and pray five times a day and have their doughters cover their head for religiouse reasons allow the to do it without intimidating them or harrasing them. If they want to preach their faith I mean any faith to those who are willing to listen let them do it. Because these are the people that will defend the country if and when the time calls for it. They may be “back ward thinking” as have been labeled by some but they are no less Eritreans than those who think of themselves froward thinking and progressive. Hassen.

Hassen Ibrahim

We are living in vicious of war as a result of the war our people is facing all the tragedic consquences of the war and poverity. Thw war for the moment is stopped. Finally, our leaders are telling us the victory is ours but how and where we defeated them is not answered sofar. However, still the enemy is occupied large part of the country and many are still displaced. Why we are engaged in war? Do the EPLF leaders couldn’t survive without war or we have incapable leadership who coudn’t feel responsilities? For how long we will be under one person leadership who is arrogant and aggressive? I wonder all this senior EPLF members who were struggling for more than quarter of their life in the field for freedom, but how on earth they allow one person to do whatever he wants to do by their name. This is a mystery for many Eritreans. The have to say something concret at least for the seek of peace and instabliity in the country than hiding his arrogance and be a victime of this prey. Once again the year 2001 will start another drama about the nominal election which will be held in Dec. 2001. As it is expected Issaias will win by 100% vote and it will not be surprising, because as one is running alone and abviously he is also the winner. Instead of spending the money for PR purpose it is helpful to spend on the rehabilitation programme for their vicitms. Issais has no intention to leave power or to admit his mismanagement of the country.The only thing they can do in the future is to change there party name and preaching about democracy. At present we need a strong party outside the country to challenge the dictatorshipe, and conduct campigens against the regime to show the world.   Peace for Eritrean and Eritre!

Aden S.

Hello, Just to let y’all know that youe site sucks. Many people have tried to post articles there, but the texts never showed up on you pages. Please practice what you preach-give people to say what they think than promoting lay men like Dawit and the other self made “politicians” sincerely

  1. Tesfai

First of all I would like to thank the awate.com team to for establishing an excellent website. I visits this website every day, and every time I visit I get good informaiton about Eritrea and Government of Eritea that I could not get them from any where else. Today I read awate.com’s intereview with HURIY TELLA BAIRU, it is very educaional, and it gave a chance to look on the histroy of Eritrea in general and GoE in particular from different perspective.   YOU ARE BUILING A BRIDGE TO THE NEW AND DEMOCRATIC ERITREA.   KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, AND GOD BLESS ERITEA. P.S There is no way that I know of to get in touch with awate.com and that is why I choose to send these words of appreciation and ancouragement as an article. Sorry for any inconvinence this e-mail might cause you. Thank you again.   Yonas Weldemariam.

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  • Nitricc

    Nero, let give me some advice. Never take yourself to be better than the others. When you say “I will indulge you as I am in the mood to do so today.” It is a canning way to put people down. We are just having a discussion, be cool man!
    I asked you two specific inquires and you failed me on both of them. I don’t know what you do for living but I suggest you consider politics. I ask a question and you say a lot with out saying nothing.
    Now, Sir; you said

    “80% of Italy’s industrial capacity installed in Ethiopia in the years of occuption was taken away”
    First my apology for reading you wrong. You did say occupation. I guess I was assuming to built something 80% of your capacity; you must colonize not occupy.
    In my mind Occupation is when you hold something when some one is contesting you, the people are fighting you i.e. Ethiopia, you can’t built anything. On the other hand in colonization; you have total control and no one is fighting you i.e. you can build something i.e. Eritrea
    Now my question to you is what was taken away from Ethiopia that was built so much so 80% of the Italians capacity?
    Name me three industries that were dismantled and taken by the Italians

    • Nero

      Nitricc,
      I was not putting you down. Indulging you – was my way of saying I will be answering your questions. It is not everyday that you ask Ethiopians in general and two come along. So don’t feel put down.
      Yet, you should not let this get to you. You are now saying I failed you. I gave you a reference – Read Michella Wrong’s book – “I did not do it for you” . It is in there. So is Sylvia Pankhurst’s book – Eritrea on the eve – which will mention the work of the British dismantling Italy’s industries planted in Ethiopia and Eritrea.
      You seem to think that most of the Italian industries planted in Ethiopia could not have been constructed in just 5 years. When was most of the factories that you mention built in Eritrea – am sure it is not before 1929. It was all built up in the run upto the invasion of Ethiopia. Don’t even bother asking the British by the way. The Italians took loans from British bankers to build their poison gas factories that were used to burn your g.grandfather’s cousin’s across the mereb and my g.grandfather this side of the mereb. – So the British were only collecting what was due to them. Eritrea was only a territory of Italy – it was not a sovereign country in 1951. So they could do that, the real shame if you ask me was that they took the factories from Ethiopia. But who cares anyway?

      N

      • Abinet

        Hi Nero
        Is this Sylvia Pankhurst the wife of Richard Pankhurst?
        Alula Pankhurst’s mother?
        Just curious.

        • gecho

          Mother of Richard Pankhurst.

          • Abinet

            Gecho and Nero
            Thank you very much. What a great family ! May God bless them all.

        • Nero

          Hi Abinet, as Gecho said below, she is the mother. She is buried at Holy Trinity Cathedral (Selassie). The grandmother, Emmeline – I think, who is known for getting woman the vote in Britain.

  • Nitricc

    Most Ethiopians wonder why we Eritreans are so motivated and in love with our country. So much so, our enthusiasm to do more is construed as we arrogant and superior to others. No; the truth is we lost so much and so great we are determined to get it back what we have lost. The Ethiopians laugh at the Eritreans whenever the Eritreans say, they want be like Singapore. I have no idea why they find it amusing. I shake my head when the Ethiopians brag about the toothless donated light train they have in Addis. What is so great 2015 to have a light train?
    Let me walk you what Eritrea had lost between 1942 -1943. I help you too, it was 72 years ago. 72 years ago your leader Minlik was riding a donkey.

    “….In the years 1942-43 Germany and Britain were fighting a war in Libya and Eritrea was the main base for the British, as a result there were some progressive activities in the country. To mention some, there was aircraft Machinery Company in Gura’e, large stores and car repairs shops were constructed in Ginda’e and Asmara. There was also a large workshop for the war ships in Massawa. There were large plantations for fruit and vegetable for the soldiers and large companies were also constructed by the British to full-fill their demands during the war.
    After the war in Libya was over, Britain shifted its base to other colonies and transferred out most of the modern manufacturing companies in Eritrea.
    Some of the major factories dismantled by the British colonizers were:-
    1. Machineries worth of 20 million USD in the stores of Gura’e, Ginda’e and Mai Habar were exported to other countries and some of the materials were even sold to foreign countries.
    2. One of the docks in the Massawa port was sold to Pakistan.
    3. 16 large ships were sold to rich people from all over the world.
    4. 500 tanks of oil were stolen from Hetemlo.
    5. 400 residential houses in Zula were completely destroyed without any particular reason or cause.
    6. The British army looted one factory in Marsa Fatma.
    7. The railway that was supposed to extend from Agordet to Massawa was destroyed and the rails were removed and sold.
    8. Majority of the factories built and functioning during the Italian colonization were either closed or exported to foreign countries…..”

    Source the History of Eritrea

    What is it so hard for you to understand for us to get what we lost? Do you feel me? the fact is there was independence generation who did everything what set out to do; create the nation. And there is the sawa generation who foiled the major attack from TPLF to secure the survival of the nation. and here it comes next generation to work build and get what we lost and more.
    So, my point is why are you having difficult times to understand what Eritreans are going thru?

    • Semere Andom

      The destraction by the colonizers is well documented in the pages of history indelibly. Because of that destruction Eritreans rose, collaborated with like minded and in 1991 won and to legitimize their hard worn victory they conducted a referendum and overwhelmingly voted for separation; a sovereign nation called Eritrea was born, proudly erected on the ashes of the detsruction.
      The railway, the industrialization was not created by Eritreans but when it came to us we embraced it, nothing to brag about and like any country in Africa nothing scientifically important that changed fundamental paradigm has emerged from our country. Given, time and opportunity we may unleash the potential within us like any other human being and we can have a chance to produce our own.
      The pressing issue now is, PFDJ with the moral support of your likes who bless every cruelty inflicted on the nation and if you continue with the self imposed stupidity and gloss over the current, intricate, deliberate and irreversible eradication of Eritrea, our grand fathers and fathers may have ridden the car that Italian built for them, we are ridding on planes and soon rockets to space travel, but our kids will ride the donkeys.
      The crimes of every colonizer is well known, and history must be visited and I do visit it with Mahmuday. Our civil war history, the history of crimes that is being made now, the tools and implements that brought a nation to the brink of collapse are more important. But even more important than this is, increasing the pool of citizens with more IQ, with more clarity of thinking and even more important than all the aove is to enshrine in our newly drafted constitution the separation of the state and robotics

      • Nitricc

        The master has to say the following ; as it is documented as top 20 white lies.

        White lie # 20

        “……In fact, just the opposite happens to be true: the only peace the land came to know was when law and order was imposed from outside (ex: under the Italians)…..”
        Yosief Berehiwot
        Page 10 paragraph 3

        And the known foot solder is saying this….

        “ ….. The destraction by the colonizers is well documented in the pages of history indelibly….” “……The crimes of every colonizer is well known, and history must be visited …..”

        Semere Andom a die hard supporter of YG.
        Semere which one is it? You can not have it both ways. So, are you saying YG is a liar? Say it, your credibility is on line

        • Hayat Adem

          Ahhh, look, Sem and YG are not one and the same person. When was the last time you saw them breathing through the same nostril? So, don’t become overexcited and jump like a monkey whenever you felt you discovered difference between them. That is one lesson.
          The other is, colonialists always impose rule and order by force on their colonies. That is a must because they can’t accomplish their primary purpose, which is to exploit, as colonizers if they don’t do that. They were pacifying Eritrea,and they were imposing rules. There are a lot of distractions they commit when they do that. So everything they did was not for the sake of Eritreans. Because they were not legitimate rulers and they lacked legitimate support, it’s force and manipulations they deploy to hold control of their subjects and the local resources. So both Sem and YG are not contradicting as you thought. In fact, Sem could have been talking about post-Italy time as well. But even if they were, it is normal and natural for two different people to differ on their possession of facts and making inferences. It is healthy, try it yourself by thinking independent. Be your own.

          • Nitricc

            You don’t get it do you? once again I brought this not that YG and Semere are one but to show the toothless Semere didn’t even know why he supported YG. He was just following like a foot soldier with out the fool knowledge of the good for nothing and misfit of society was saying. Do you get it?
            you are a joke.

          • Hayat Adem

            Are you a robot? Did u even read what i said? You are carried away by your own ideas as if they are too sophisticated to decipher. There was nothing rocket science about the stuff you wrote and i was exactly addressing that.

    • Hayat Adem

      You said [to Ethiopians]: “72 years ago your leader Minilik was riding a donkey.”
      If you are talking about Emperor Minilik II, he died 102 years ago unless you have seen him riding a donkey after death. If you are talking about Minilik The First, he must have died 3000 years ago. But history has it that it was Minilik II who personally witnessed the introduction of the 1st automobile to Ethiopia, and he was the first man in Abyssinia to have tested by personally driving it. Some Ethiopians believed he was the 1st to get a driving lesson and driving license. I hate to spoil your childish game but there is no one else to do that job. And you are too noisy and heartless dumb crazy to leave you alone.
      Amde, you are invited to enlighten this child.

      • Nitricc

        Dedebit; forst of I ask the Ethiopians, if you are not Ethiopian why are you answering me? I do know and understand you are too stupid to get my figure of speech. When mentioned your dead leader; Minilik; because every Ethiopian credits Minilik for their civilization and I was referring to that fact. For all I know you could have been their with Minilik riding the new automobile. Hack, for a person who was kicking it with Kiross Alemayho; that is no too far to assume you and the toothless Minilik riding together.
        What a lost soul. I heard Hope says you are from Keren hahahahahahah. Go back to Adi-grat.

        • Abinet

          “Toothless Menelik”
          I like to believe you are not talking about Emye Menelik.
          I let it pass this time.

          • Kokhob Selam

            you better believe it, he is talking about Emye. I am an Eritrean but I still remain proud of Emye. you see the difference now?. just ask Nitricc, what makes him proud ? none. Lol, He was not a fighter to be proud of Eritrean struggle for national freedom, he was not matured when he left Africa to be proud of African history and Ethiopian strong stand against colonialists, he only knew PFDJ. and what ,PFDJ don’t care about him and they don’t even know him. this is just lost soul somewhere out of the universe. ask Horizon how you should deal with Nitricc and here is my advice to you, you don’t have to answer or comment in any post Nitricc writes unless you are in the same level. Listen to Horizon and read his comments – he is so fair, and balanced no extreme side can challenge him.

          • Abinet

            Kokobe
            Thank you.
            We are all proud of Emye

          • Nitricc

            Wow you are disgraced to any Eritrean DNA. Have respect even if you are from the same village with your stupid darlin. For your info the Tigryans hate your minilik. Who are you?
            You can not be this type of azz kisser and at the same time an Eritrean. Let me use my feverit word; i think it is Arabic or Tigre. Abeden. I refused to belive you are an Eritrean. Get lost, man.

        • Hayat Adem

          e’e’e! you mentioned a year; you mentioned a name; and you mentioned a function. there is no figurative here. the dates mentioned, the characters mentioned and the events are all selected. you brought minilik to the front time wise. you pushed the function back time wise. you forcibly tried to fit it to an event you thought has some to do with us and Europeans. a lie, and a bad move. lies are like bleeding veins; the only to stop them is by attending and first aid intervention. denial doesn’t stop the bleeding.it is for you.
          why do i ask Ethiopians if i already know it? I will ask them if I don’t. this sounded like, “why don’t you let me lie if it is not about eritrea? let the ethiopians catch me if they can but why you?” well, it is because i can’t stand willful lairs.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hayata! are you still replying to those heartless guys ? people on your level are participating in planning on how to rebuild our damaged new nation. you are badly needed on this golden edge of change. ignore all those die hard expired guys and use your very important time. every minute of yours is valuable,

          • Hayat Adem

            I’m, can you believe it?! You are super best, KS.

          • Amde

            Dear Hayat,

            What Kokhob said – again and again. Don’t let the child make you forget you are a superstar. We need you elsewhere.

            Amde

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Hayat Adem,
        .
        I don’t think Amde.is necessary. He is great but not a miracle worker. If I make a statement by saying let me walk you through and say “72 years ago your leader Minilik was riding a donkey” . Someone comes in and point at a very simple fact, Minilik died 102 years ago. My shame will force my hands, both hands, to cover my face. I wont be seen in public for weeks. But as my friend would say, 011010001110011101000.
        .
        K.H

    • Amde

      Nitricc,

      Actually, other than your donkey fetish, this post is an improvement from the usual EPLF tirade. The main point is that Ethiopia is not being blamed for de-industrializing Eritrea (which is what we heard ad nauseum), but the British mainly are. Well what can i say, what the King giveth, the King taketh away (King George that is….).

      It would be interesting if you were to consider WHY this concentration of the industrialization? As your selection indicates, it is to use Eritrean labor to manufacture the stuff needed to prosecute war. This was primarily the Italian fascist war against Ethiopia and/or the British war against the Italian fascists. I doubt very much if these goods were manufactured for export (show me such data), or for domestic Eritrean consumption (very small domestic market). Those are the only other alternative reasons.

      Now, Singapore is not a bad dream to have and I don’t think it is not feasible. But Singapore does not go around kicking its neighbors like your favorite animal the Nakfa JackAss. So it has neighbors happy enough to trade and co-operate with it.

      Amde

    • Nero

      You put the question – so here is the answer.

      What is difficult for me to understand is exactly there in what you put between quotation marks.

      So who is to blame for all that loss? – Britain, or is it Hitler, that dragged Mussolini to war. Or is it America that gave the British support during the war. Perhaps it is Ethiopia. Truth is Eritrea’s economic losses under Italy are a direct consequence of its position as a colony. Full stop.

      All you listed was not Eritrea’s to begin with – it was brought in to serve the dreams of those who looked down on your ancestors and on mine all the same, Facetta nera. Do you know that France made Haiti pay for the loss of freed slaves when Haitians overthrew the French empire? Or that Francophone countries still pay compensation for their independence in the 1960s. There is no free lunch. What the Italians built was Italian property? They will take it away if they can. The essence of a country is one that does not wither way and rusts not.

      80% of Italy’s industrial capacity installed in Ethiopia in the years of occuption was taken away. A figure much more than what was taken from Eritrea. It was stripped to the bone by the British and shipped all over the British colonies – even the metal sheets of the roofs. Read about it in Michaela Wrong’s book.

      The Italians came and built it. The British came and took it. True, Italians made roads and bridges that the British could not take with them but even that they did so only to speed down their worthless Fiat tanks in a bid to crush the rebellion of a chief here and the patriotism of a village. What you only keep is the technological ability to emulate their achievement and mix it with your own heritage.

      I never read this loss of industrial capacity in an Ethiopian history book – let me know if otherwise true. Not surprising if self-respecting Ethiopian historians chose not to decry this and lament about it.

      It must be we don’t think it is our birth right. You seem to think it is yours – where is the pride in that. Why should Eritreans of the coming generation fight for material stolen by the British – is that their inheritance?

      Some brainwashed by PFDJ think the world is against Eritrea. Truth is they are against reality – Do South Africans decry the gold and diamond the British carted away in the colony years, do the Kenyans decry the decimated wildlife that British shot to the point of extinction. The Indians have lost almost all the wealth they had – as British that filled boats after boats with gems and precious stones. Do they make it a foundation of their economic future and point of reference? I doubt it.

      Singapore – does not exist in a bubble. It is part of the region and a key player at that. To emulate that – you also have to have the right ingredients in the region. It is much easier to be part of the region rather than to create the situation that could enable a Singapore.

      Well here are my two cents. Any more questions?

      • Nitricc

        Yes more Q.
        Why don’t you check your facts before I respond to you? I thought Ethiopia never colonized by any foreign entity, let alone the Italians to plant so much industry and 80 % of it to take away. Can you name me 3 industries the Italians created in Ethiopia?
        If you can answer it we can go ahead but judging from your past comment; you don’t seem to know what is going on. You did not even know TPLF won the last election by margin of 96.8 % something like that. But I won’t judge you by that.
        Now answer my question. So, you are saying Ethiopia was colonized by Italy and built many industries and even took 80% of it. Right?
        Was it Ethiopia colonized by Italy?
        And please name me three industries that Italians built in Ethiopia and please tell me three industries that they took with them.
        Then I will continue

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Awatistas:

    Congratulations for all ‘football’ crazy Patriots supporters for the victory. My taste from all the men played games is soccer. Nothing should be more bizarre than a hand played game is named football while the foot played ball game is called soccer. You should be able to guess my only favorite part of the super bowl event is the entertainment and the commercials. Even the ones that don’t love this bullish game have something to enjoy. That means everyone has a bite, however incongruent.
    Let’s now revisit thoughts that were reflected in 2002, by another great Eritrean, Yonas Araya. I read and internalized them then. Ever since, I’ve been thinking about them. They were eye-openers to my world and left some permanent impression in me. I had tried to discuss them with people who read them but many lacked interest because they thought Yonas’ ideas were too contrarian and much drifted. Any attempt on my part ended abrupt and my appetite faded quickly.
    I thought in the last 12 years, a lot of water has passed under the bridge and I myself have evolved a lot. There are a lot of selective readings I did in the past and some of them changed me, not necessarily for the better. To the extent, there is a deviation from the old self. There is always a temptation of revising my thoughts and 2nd guessing my old self. This is probably a common trait of all thinking animals. When I started reading YG, I started replaying YA in my head. I’ve been visited by temptations to reread YA’s essays but didn’t do it. Was I guarding the last good impression I was carrying from them and afraid of depreciating them now? I don’t know. But, I think the idea of me as evolved in a big way is sometimes exaggerated. YA is less contrarian than YG, for sure, and I know YG is faring well with the youth and the open-minded. Then I thought, YA’s ideas can be seen less radical these days. But, I also thought, some of his analysis and prediction are already tested in time, and people may see the quality of his ideas by now as some of the fogs and smokes may have been cleared.
    It seems a conspiracy of synchronicity; Awate brought archived exchanges that reminded me of YA essays. Then, the website that archived them started republishing them. We are talking about three
    coincidences, here. Now we know the first piece of the 24 vast articles is posted at Asmarino. Anyone interested can follow the details of this essays that were written in 2002 and evaluate them with today’s Eritrea’s realities.
    YA likened IA to SB (Saide Barre) of Somalia. The comparison makes a sensible match. Both men had good likeability and charisma when they came to power. Both had unrestrained insatiability of growing
    more powerful and more hegemonic beyond their borders. They had wild ambitions. They both started flexing their muscles against neighboring nations when they thought they had what it takes to stick out their heads. They never cared for legitimacy or diplomacy. They started placing new territorial claims. They both attacked Ethiopia and advanced their forces as deep as they can. Ethiopia was caught and met with forces unsuspected both times. It had to militarize and mobilize to reverse aggression. Then, it was the end of ascendance of these two powerful men and the start of their downward journey. YA told us this comparison in 2002. Somalia slipped in to internal chaos and civil war. Eritrea has sometime to save itself from Somalization.
    YA walks us through the journey that brought IA into the troublesome mindset and how we got here as consequence of that. He says, “Issayas attempted to create two conditions: In Eritrea, he wanted to create a frenzy, which could enable him to buy time and divert the public opinion, even for a short period. And in Ethiopia, he wanted to intimidate and blackmail its leaders into abiding by his terms. Hence he knew he could accomplish these two objectives with the only way he had known – show
    of force and military victory.” IA moved on his plan and in, in February of 1998 he mobilized his army. The rest was just a theater of unleashing and transforming his plan. No event that had something to do, one way or the other, with the Badime crisis was not accidental. The fact that the flash point was
    Badime was not accident. The fact that there were high Eritrean officials in Addis talking the border issue, the fact that IA was out of town during the Badime clash, the fact everything happened the way it did was for a reason that was exactly mapped by IA in advance. So, according to YA, IA played out things exactly the way he planned them up to this point.
    In that week, something went a little deviated from his plan. Everything went well, in some cases even better than he thought or wanted. “In Eritrea, he got more than he had bargained for — his popularity skyrocketed.” But in Ethiopia, his action backfired. YA, has a better way of describing it: “Issayas is used to having it his way – dictating agreement on his own term. In the past, he bluffed Sudan and Sudan blinked, he invaded Yemen and Yemen restrained, he attacked Djibouti, and Djibouti receded;
    he bluffed Ethiopia, but to his surprise, Ethiopia reacted in a way he had never remotely anticipated it would. Ethiopia was not supposed to react the way it did. He still believed there was nothing wrong with his actions but with the reactions from Ethiopia.”
    IA probably perfectly calculated the military and power base support balance tipped manifold edge to his favor. What he right about was that he was way stronger than Meles, not the potential capacity that Meles could work out to change the balance. What he was right was about the pattern of reaction of EPRDF in the past whenever confronted by a mighty EPLF, not if they would continue appeasing him indefinitely. What he was right was about was Eritrea was better armed and militarized than Ethiopia, not that Ethiopia could mobilize its capacity to match it up quickly. What he was right about was that Meles and the EPRDF leadership be scared of would be any quarrel and confrontation form the intact and potent IA regime, not that these same people would not risk their power anymore by yielding one more time to IA as Ethiopians were growing impatient about Weyane’s generous accommodations to EPLF.

    I’m so amazed how YA correctly analysed IA and the situation surrounding him. he looked and read into the future more or less correctly. Like my friend Sem A rightly gave his testimony last week that YA’s essays are prophetic. YA is not only closer to correctly understanding Eritrea’s situation ahead of many of us, he has many valuable solutions.
    Thank you,
    Hayat

    • Semere Andom

      Thanks Hayat for the Synopsys. This is a front page stuff. I was also impressed by YA when I read him and this comment will rejuvenate his writing. Thanks to Asmarino for courageously publishing them while it was contrarian and also Asmarino must be commended for publishing YG. Eritreans need to tolerate ideas that test their entrenched thinking and if on the rubbles of PFDJ we fail to protect the YGs we have not fared better than PFDJ. If we established democracy with parliament and all the other pillars that make up a civilized nation, people will have no choice if a young YG emerges. If we stifle thinking that test our own and tolerate fake dissent then we are doomed.

      Governments are innately dangerous, with all its resources and guns and legally trains killers (soldiers it can do whatever it wishes unless every citizen’s mind is a true believer in unfetter free speech. We have witnessed the futile attempts to stifle and intimidate YG and I suspect that it was because we were used for Phds in journalism and constitutional law, and critical thinkers in Fermat’s enigma became clapping idiots of IA. It is time for Eritrean to abhor the tyranny of the mind like they did the tyranny of Dergi once again

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes, the worst thing we could do to ourselves as a people is vilifying our thinkers in order to guard our current beliefs. What we believe in now is not necessarily the best. We thought we had the best of us in EPLF and PFDJ. I wish we had listened to people who had different ideas then.

      • Hope

        Sem,
        Come clean and clear,man.
        Elaborate what you are trying to say.
        We do not understand your codes and satir when it comes to serious National Issues.
        YG is bluffing after things happened…..YA has done the same thing.
        He is rephrasing the TPLF’s Five-point -plan.
        Eritrea is a Sovereign Nation and all negotiations,agreements,etc–should be based on that Premise,not based on” Might is Right” kind of Premise.
        If we made a a mistake,we have to correct it….If we want change,we have to do it in the way that is best for us.
        If Ethiopia wants a Sea Access,it should be based on International Noms,Rules and Laws,not based on Bullying and based on the Rule of Jungles.
        Why can’t Ethiopia bully Djibouti ?Coz France is there?

        • Semere Andom

          Cousin Hope:
          I thought rested your case with me and settled with me just this weekend when I did the hateta that you dubbed the Hateta of Hatetas if 2015:-)
          Hope, you cannot have it two ways, either you allow unfettered free speech or your stifle it. Question for your, if you answer that it can clear my comment for your.
          In democratic Eritrea someone is elected in the parliament, and after years he bring a motion in the parliament themes that weave YG’s concepts. What are you going to do with him, hang him by accusing him for treason? Or better yet if after PFDJ is gone and YG goes to Asmara what should we do with him choices are :
          a) stone him
          b) arrest him
          c) revoke his citizenship and deport him to Ethiopia
          d) do nothing, let the mob lead by Nitricc beat him in the street
          e) non the above

          • Hope

            Sem,
            As far as I am concerned,definitely the answer is (e).But the final verdict will be left to the Court of Law in future Democratic Eritrea
            YG et are entitiled to their Opinion but they have NO right to misinform the naive and twist history.
            Tell me what the Canadian Gov could have done if YG or his kinds twist the Candian Hisotry,insult the Canadians and misinform the Citizens.Be honest now.
            The answer is crystal clear.FYI,the USA Government has arrested,charged and even deported its own Naturalized Citizens for insulting the US Congress and making minimal Security Risk Comments–way and far insignificant compared to what YG et have done to Eritrea and Eritreans.
            Surprise,surprise,–the New Constitution will deal with such kind of people,btw!
            Your flip-flopping stand forced me to flip-flop about you;but my word remains the same that your Hateta is the Hateta of 2015,if it is honest .

          • Hayat Adem

            Hope, none of the above is a good answer. But I don’t believe you are being honest, so I’ll ask you more questions to clarify: (follow-up question)
            A) If you were the General Attorney in Eritrea, what charge would you file to the court against YG?
            B) What provision do you expect the “New Constitution” to include “to deal with such kind of people [YG, YA, …]?”
            Hayat

          • Hope

            Gual Aboy Adem,
            That will depend on the latest Constitution of the Nation ratified and approved by the Assembly.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hope, if you were the Attorney General today and you have YG in your hands in Eritrea, what would you charge him with? Please answer.

          • Nitricc

            Uncle Hope, forget the Amen corners, they never have neither the courage nor the honesty to tell you the truth. Take Officer Bradley, he was given 35 years for leaking the documents to wiki. What are his crimes? Is not a free country? Are not the people have the right to know what their government do? Where is the right to speak free and the right to be inform? If the great USA can do that to 23 years old kid; what does Eritrea must do for an old, corrupted and misfit person who dehumanized the people and the nation?

            “Bradley Manning given 35-year prison term for passing files to WikiLeaks”

          • Hayat Adem

            “what does Eritrea must do for an old, corrupted and misfit person who dehumanized the people and the nation?” Are we talking about PIA here?

            Look, even if you are dumb-by-admission, you can understand this: Manning was a government employee, an officer, who was under oath to do and no to do things. He knows those things. He took a risk and did one of the things he was told not-to-do, and he placed oath for them no-to-do. He violated federal law, he violated his own oath he entered. He was accused of passing classified government secrets to a 3rd party. He defended himself in a court. He get his verdict.
            What did YG did? He expressed his ideas as a free thinker, and you are comparing him with officer Manning? Incredible dumbness and fearlessness!

          • Semere Andom

            Mr. D&F:

            Now are you comparing the country that you are serving dumbly and fearlessly with the accomplished failed state called Eritrea. I respect the people who took risks to help freedom: people like Daniel Ellsberg (Pentagon Papers), Assange, Snowdon and Manning. These people are fearless, their lives in shambles, but people are a tad free, a tad liberated and I am sure more will come. But with courage and fearlessness comes responsibility and accountabity. I hope those who will come standing on the shoulders on the mentioned giant human being learn from their mistakes. Snowdon seems to have learned if your read,” o place to hide” by Greenwald.

            Your new name is Nitricc Isaias Afewerki for accusing USA to charge Manning for dumping everything irresponsibly. Governments elected or dictatorial have lot of power and that power must be checked and that requires both brains and guts, having only one does not cut it. Citizens deserve to know what the government is doing in their names, governments must be checked and should not be trusted, we elected them because we trust them, but we check them because we cannot be sure and also we are sure that power like money change people. The concept of vibrant independent, media think tanks, private citizens, activists, interst groups all work in tandem to check the necessary evil called government.

            It is hypocrisy to stay support a government that disappears and kills people for hobby and have the dumbness and guts to criticize USA for taking Manning to court. USA that you are serving is a free country but need to protect itself unless you are privy to stuff we are clueless that attest to the despotism of USA.

            Now after reading this primer or intro for dummies tell me how did YG endagered the security of Eritrea. The smart “Dedebit” girl gave you assignment when you guys signed that agreement, to think for yourself instead of reading redundant script written by an old misfit person who dehumanizes Eritreans and runs a country from a bar and drinking binges

          • Nitricc

            I know you are not that bright so, let help you again. The government has the responsibility to keep off its affairs from the hands of wrong people. Where the responsibility that the government must be shouldering? Again think before you write?

          • Semere Andom

            Let me try a gain with a recipe writing
            1. Government is made up of people, it tries its best to put in charge trustworthy people
            2. people are people and they falter and when they do, there are laws
            3. The laws are applied
            4. People go to court to challenge the mighty government,who ever has facts in his side wins
            5. Still miscarriage of just is possible,it is not perfect
            6. Convicted people have access to tools, no one disappears in the thin air in USA
            7. Example the judge threw the government’s case against Dan Ellseberge (P.papers)
            8. The right of the individual and the right of the population to security and the duty of he government are balanced, always in conflict, it is an endless cycle and sometimes the fittest survives, but most of the time the truth prevails. In the kingdom of man, most of the time is as close as perfect. Criminals get away with crimes and innocent get locked for crimes they did not commit. to solve that there are dedicated citizens who established the Innocent Project
            9. Final product is no one disappears in the thin ether, the laws are refined with time and new learning.
            Let me know I can simplify it more, in the same way the criminal must have a day in a court, the dumb have their day in simpliefed communincation

          • Fnote Selam

            Hi Semere,

            You forgot one obvious choice, as many countries do these days,

            f) charge him under ‘terrorism law’ in a ‘fair’ court

            😉

            **BTW, this is meant to be a ዋዛ ምስ ቁምነገር**

            FS.

          • Hope

            FS,
            Please,be fair as well.If you are a concerned Eri Citizen,YG deserves to be cross-examined for what he has said.and charged as well..I gave you a simple Analogy of the USA measures against few Citizens who SAID some minimal Security related comments.Mind you ,for SAYING,not for a terrorist Activity.
            Those few US Citizens who ran away from their Duties without any major risk to the USA are still being chased by the USA to be brought to Justice.
            You cannot discriminate by singling out the PFDJ when most of us messed up one way or another.
            As to your reasonable satir and joke,YES indeed,he should be charged for Terrorism by the Ethiopian Standard,which Sem et al ignored deliberately.

          • Fnote Selam

            Gotcha ya! Also, it is not only Ethiopia, but also Egypt and many countries, in one way or the other, are doing it. And sadly Kenya is going that direction as well.
            FS.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hope,
            Again, what is the charge against him?

          • Fnote Selam

            Hi Hayat

            May be similar charge that Ethiopian government brought against Zone Niners? Just saying, if one is determined to bring frivolous charge under ambiguous ‘terrorism law’, it is easy to make and twist things to bring them to court.

            BTW, I categorically am against bringing charges of any kind against YG.

            FS.

          • Hayat Adem

            I wouldn’t doubt you. but I was trying to flash out Hope’s thoughts. If you ask me, it is even weird enough we are talking about charging our brain heroes, and the accusers are the ones who admitted to be the dumbest..

          • Hope

            Tsemam hade derfu!
            Get a life!

        • Nitricc

          Uncle Hope he is infatuated wih The stupid dedebit. He is disgraced to the highest order. It s amazing the low selfeasteam this toothless guy he have

          • Hayat Adem

            There is no stupid dedebit here. There is smart dedebit on the one hand, and dumb and fearless on the other. Live with it and don’t try to retreat forward, Mr. Dumb&Fearless.

          • Hope

            My Dear Nephew,
            The problem is when dealing with “dumb” intellectuals,who know every truth–call them Intellectual and Political Acrobatists with Political and Intellectual Bankruptsy if you wish!

        • Hayat Adem

          Hope,
          1) YA’s proposal came years earlier than the 5 point proposal PMMZ tabled in 2005. You didn’t tell us how you thought they are similar but even if YA’s proposal comes into agreement with the PMMZ proposal, it wouldn’t make it a bad idea unless it is a bad idea of itself and on its own. YA is proposing something that he thinks is the best for Eritrea’s peace and development strategic interests. Now, argue if you can on his reasoning and show us why you think it is a bad idea.
          2) Tell me why you think YA’s proposal on the Ethiopia/SeaAccess is against international laws if you can. Unless you believe anything AY proposes is by default against “International Norms,Rules and Laws”,and all his ideas automatically encourage “Bullying and Rule of Jungles”, and unless you want us to believe whatever Hope proposes is just the opposite of that, you didn’t say a thing on where you he is contradicting international laws and appeasing bully and predatory states.
          3) Ethiopia wouldn’t bully Djibouti because Djibouti is carefully playing by the rules. That might tell you something that the current day Ethiopia doesn’t bully law-abiding neighbors. In fact, Djibouti is talking more about unity with Ethiopia. I don’t think it has anything to do with France. Bullying is mostly an essence of character more than it is driven by an opportunistic situation. Despite its overwhelming size, PFDJ never stopped dreaming to bully Ethiopia. It has never stopped bullying Sudan and Yemen. The presence of France never discouraged PFDJ from trying to bully Djibouti. But, South Africa doesn’t bully Lesotho. Nigeria doesn’t bully Serra-Leon. It is a character thing.
          4) Individuals like AY are trying to think out of the box to put Eritrea at a better position than where it finds itself today. I’m not saying YA came up with the best and the only solution. But, we should let ideas come and go, flow in and out. Lets screen them, sort them- the better from the non-starters. Some ideas can be worth trying. Some ideas can be adopted temporarily for testing. Some best ideas can be even hybridized for the better results.
          5) Hope, the worst thing we can do as a nation is dismissing new ideas at the speed they appear. Worse than that is belittling and miniaturizing our thinkers instead of listening to what they have to say, and asking even more to squeeze their brains for us. PFDJ is like a very bad, jealous, narcissistic lover: “look at me. Never look right or left. Never look beyond me. Me, me, me, mmeeee”
          5) Hope, can I give you one exercise:
          For one week, JUST FOR ONE WEEK, become unpfdj consciously and try to give your full attention to all ideas that oppose it. It is for one week, so don’t worry, nothing will happen to PFDJ during your absence. Dedicate the week to put yourself on the shoes of non-pfdj Eritreans. There should be no pretensions here. It has to be a genuine attempt of one week total and complete divorce from PFDJ. Most of us have supported PFDJ one way or the other so we know what that world looks like. But most, nearly all pfdj supporters never knew any other outlook or never stepped out of that box in their life. So, take this experiment and come back to us and let us know of your feelings and experience.
          Hayat

          • Hope

            Hayat,
            I will get back to you.
            -I said YG bluffed after the things happened as some one here brilliantly clarified it
            -I am not against new ideas but against imposed ideas and bullying
            -The whole Aseb Port could be leased to Ethiopia but based on International Norms,Laws and Agreements, and as a matter of fact,as you know better than any one here,the Aseb Port was leased for Free to Ethiopia until 1997 and your greedy Masters wanted more….and they lost all…”If you snooze,you loose”!
            -Aseb and Massawa Ports are available to Ethiopia for a Lease based on the International Norms and Laws BUT ONLY with the Free Will and Consent of Eritrea and Eritreans….not based on new ideas or proposals. or bullying.We owe NOTHING to the TPLF or Ethiopians;rather they owe us more than $100 billion from the 40plus yrs of devastation they incurred upon us.

          • Hayat Adem

            Just float your ideas like the YG, YA and all of us. Since no one is talking about charging you with crime, stop criminalizing others who expressed their opinions like you. If you have to charge, do it on the ones that are committing crimes of killing, torturing and jailing citizens in incommunicado.

          • Nitricc

            Uncle hope let me do the honor and let me put this dedebit in her place
            Dedbit I can go all the way to treason number one. I know you are SDB but the guy is the worst form of what humanity has to offer. He run away like a little you know what and he have to paint the brave Eritrean martyred such picture. He wasn’t even there?

            Treason # 20
            “The majority of the martyred, being peasants (and mostly forcibly
            taken through giffa”)
            Yosef Ghiwet page 7 paragraph 2.

          • Hayat Adem

            Good, now put me in my place (GKW):
            -what if they were peasants for fact?
            -what if he can prove they were forcibly recruited by giffa?
            -why would that be defined as treason?

          • Semere Andom

            Hayat:
            He cannot prove thaat, he will not be allowed to. If Nitricc and Hope would allow him to do so, then we are good. If they have reached that stage of enlightenment we are good, but since they consider their current state the Nirvana, it is doubtful l they will come out of it.
            The government has the right to charge anyone, but if they are allowed ttheir day in a court and by court I do not mean the special court that they have in mind, I mean a court of law with a judge or and jury of his peers to prove that they were forcibly recruited then the next step is charging the chargers with defamation and undue hardship for a citizen and compensation or prison time for the bully to teach their next generation of bullies a lesson

          • Hayat Adem

            I’m being amazed. What are these duo carrying on their shoulder? How much do they love PFDJ to be locked in this kind of dumbness? It is now safe to declare PFDJ has two kinds of prisons: dungeons and dumbness. The former for the thinking, the latter for the non-thinking.

          • Hope

            Ms/Mom,
            I do NOT have time to go over YG’s nonsensical volumes so as to pick up few ‘Charges” against him.
            But listen to Fnote Selam’s Ashmur,if you understand what I am saying.
            Again,we already exhausted the “Crimes” of the PFDJ…and we should NOT regurgitate them for PR consumption and we already closed the saga of the Fallacious Logic of YG but for some obvious reasons,the Unionists are bringing it up…Yonas Araya included–but why?And whenerver those obsolete issues come up,you jump up excited as if you were/are on Met and coke!
            Let me ask you:
            If the Latinos in California,Texas,Florida,Arizona and New Mexico in the USA bring up “New Ideas and Proposals” of taking back those main stream States fully or partially to Mexico,what would be the fate of those poor Lations per the USA Law?
            Mind you,some Latinos some where in the West Coast or so,suggested to have Latino Colleges/Universities–to be instructed in Spansih Language recently,and guess what?
            The USA Law Makers lashed at them mercilessly!
            Take home point:
            -Bringing up new constructive ideas and proposals for the BEST National Interest and Security of Eritrea and Eritreans without touching the Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity of Eritrea directly or indirectly, is a Noble Cause.But questioning,belittling,refuting,bullying on,etc—the precious struggle and the Precious Independence is beyond TREASON by any Standard….
            On the side note,if what the West and the East,Egypt,Ethiopia,kenya,etc,do is acceptable for their interest,why should it be unacceptable when Eritrea does the same thing,for God’s sake?
            This topic should be closed for GOOD!You and your groups are entiltled to your Uinionist opinions but NOT in a way that will affect our National Interest and Security.
            Fool me once,shame on YOU; fool me twice,SHAME on ME!

          • Hayat Adem

            Nothing Finote said didn’t seem Ashmure to me. But you said this: “I do NOT have time to go over YG’s nonsensical volumes so as to pick up few ‘Charges” against him.” So, you simply charge him without specifying, or you detain him without charges? Because you already said you want to charge him, remember? So, you were eith lying or bluffing or you would do it, regardless, without bothering yourself to read what he said and because of what he said.
            That is pretty crazy. You rush to accuse and charge people for what they wrote and said but you don’t have time to read what they wrote? God Bless You, my hope to float you up to safety is hopeless. You are too Nitriccized.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Cousin Hope,
            .
            I always see a lot of exchanges around your posts, whenever I check in. You must come across as provocative to most people here. Is that so?
            .
            Cousin Hope, you said “..Aseb and Massawa ports are available to Ethiopia for a lease…” Question, what do we tell, Djibouti, that our X asked us back, see you later.
            Didn’t you hear we are engaged to Djibouti now. We are building homes in each other lands, rail and highways at unbelievable cost.
            One more thing, just in passing you mentioned as a sweetener to the offer, that we owe you $100B. Why do you have to bring up the $100B. again.
            At a minimum, let us say we owe each other nothing. That will be a good neighborly beginning, don’t you think?
            .
            I also was reading about Tigre, Tigrinya by those in the know and I admit I am totally confused now by what I have read. Those Eritreans who moved primarily from Asmara in the 60s and 70s to Addis, Who were they? If I am bold enough to tell you, we called them Tigre, their language Tigringna, o.k Tigrinya. Sometimes at their insistence, we referred to them as Asmara Tigre as opposed to Mekele Tigre.
            If all this confusion is created by EPLF/PFDJ about individual tribes so that everyone refers to themselves as an Eritrean first and foremost, I don’t think that is a bad achievement. What do you know about this in layman’s terms, not in the socialists nations and nationalities stuff?
            .
            K.H

  • Shum

    Hello Awate team/Awatistas,

    This is a timely article. In the past week or so, it seems we’ve been entangled in conversations that don’t matter to what’s going on right now. A lot of the back and forth is personal or personality driven. Some of us feel duty-bound to respond to every posting on this site. And yet some of us talk at each other and not to each other. Others pick up random questions or the wrong conclusions from an article and go HAM on it. I think that’s why we don’t get many new posters.

    Two good articles were written by the editors of this site. Most of us should be engaging them and each other on their points. I fear that many Eritreans are engaged in distractions because they feel powerless to do anything about our current struggle.

    • Saleh Johar

      Shum,
      Which are the two articles, could you please elaborate?

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Moderator,
        I’ve a faint memory of series of well written essays here at Awate by an Eritrean named Yonas Araya roughly over a decade ago. I liked them then and I was trying to search them recently so that I reread them and see if I would like them today the way they impressed me then, but to no luck. I wonder if I can request you to select one or two of his best articles for republishing.

        Hayat

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Hayat,

          I think you are talking about this, I remember him writing in Asmarinao not awate. He was made fun off for saying we should pray to Go

          http://fp.asmarino.com/YonasAraya/YonasAraya1.asp

          • Hayat Adem

            Magic! Yes! I’ll start skimming them and see if I can rediscover that 1st impression. Apologies for confusing the websites, Thanks Semere.

          • Semere Andom

            I skimmed though. It was prophetic and even more relevant. Let us know

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hayat,

          Asmarino.com has started to re-post the 24 series of writings of Yonas Araya. They posted part-I now and will continue to re-post the rest, as shown in the rewinding clock there. If you are interested in his writings, there you have.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Hayat Adem

            Thanks Emma for alerting me. It is a bulky write-up. I was rereading all of them as opposed to skimming them as my first intention was. In fact, I was planning to summarize his main points here for discussion but now that i know Asmarino is re-posting them, I will refrain from doing that as the original material would always be better given availability. But, I will comment on the part, the part that is republished in Asmarino for Awatistas’ reflections.

          • Hope

            Emma,Hayat and Sem(Students of PMMZ and the School of YG):
            Here is what Yonas Araya said:
            Quote:”….. My proposal calls on a democratically elected future government of Eritrea to consider leasing a piece from that coastal land to Ethiopia. Also, it advises the post-Issayas government of Eritrea to invite all peace-loving communities of the world to serve as witnesses during the signing of the deal.
            Details:
            1. Eritrea shall lease 10-15 kilometers of coastal land between Assab and Djibouti to Ethiopia, for one dollar a year, for 50 years.
            2. The lease shall be signed before the following witnesses:
            a. The UN (United Nations)
            b. The OAU (Organization of African Unity)
            c. The EU (European Union)
            d. All present and future local and international major powers, democracies, and neighbors such as: USA, Italy, UK, Germany, France, Russia, China, Japan, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, Djibouti, Norway, Sweden, Sudan, Australia, South Africa and Iran.
            3. The lease shall be reviewed in the year of 2052 before all the witnesses and a decision will be made whether to renew the lease for some more years, or to hand the coastal land over to Ethiopia permanently.
            4. Ethiopia shall build a port on the leased coastal territory.
            5. The World Bank, IMF, and all well-meaning and peace-loving nations and organizations shall be appealed by both nations to help Ethiopia with all the technical difficulties of building a port in that part of the coastal land.
            6. If constructing a port in the said coastal land proves to be technically impossible, then other alternative ways, which I will unveil in the future, have to be explored to resolve Ethiopia’s necessities.
            7. Ethiopia may name the newly constructed port, Assab, if it wishes to.
            8. Ethiopia’s military police in the leased land will be limited to a police force.
            9. Naval security will be maintained by Eritrea.
            10. The coastal land shall be entrusted to all Ethiopians, as a nation, and not to a particular Ethiopian tribe.”
            http://fp.asmarino.com/YonasAr
            It looks a nice proposal—–huh…may be it is good for us all.This is,btw, part of the Five-point -plan Emma and Hayat advocated and supported…..if the direct invasion of Eritrea by the TPLF fails.and or is dropped as a “good gesture/good will” by the TPLF!

          • Amde

            interesting proposal.

            However ports are built in harbors, natural formations that allow ships with deep hulls to get close to the land, not any random spot by the sea.

            Amde

          • Hayat Adem

            This Ya’s proposal is on the 19th part of his 24 essays. You are right, Amde, I suspect YA is only considering the political possibility. The physical possibility could be there or may not be there, or may demand a huge money and work to develop and make it one. The key message here for all of us is, the Ethio-Eritrean problem is not without a solution. We only have to shake off our straight jackets and think free as wild as we can. Ideas are developable. Don’t kill them as soon are they are born. But above all, don’t kill their parents so that they continue birthing even better and more ideas.

          • Amde

            Hi Hayat,

            No I am not killing it. I distinctly remember this proposal when it was written in 2000. It took a lot of courage to write in 2000 than now. He was wise to at least understand not just the politics and legalistic issues involved, but also the historical and psychological issues. I have said it before – the port issue is primarily of security and not economics. It flows directly from the Ethiopian experience of the Fascist Invasion of 1935, and the failure of the League of Nations to live up to its promise. This experience is also the reason why Haile Sellasie, the monarch who had invited European princes to his coronation in 1930, was an ardent anti-colonialist in the post-war period.

            This proposal of YA goes some way to address Ethiopia’s security concerns. At the same time, it also implies Eritrean control of any port traffic will be nonexistent, which raises the hackles of those Eritreans who dreamed of getting rich off of throttling Ethiopia’s life-line. Those are the seductive dreams that tempt an Eritrean regime into playing hegemonic competition with Ethiopia. While such dreams may be great for the ego of the elites, in actual fact they represent an unwanted and unnecessary historic burden on Eritrean youth. Youth flight is a direct result and refutation of this dream.

            Saay, in his last article “Pessimism….” stated in black and white “The government’s policy of extreme self-reliance and pursuing a foreign
            policy disproportionate to its resources
            has isolated the country and
            denied it development partners.” I personally thought this sentence was the most important of that piece. It points to the Eritrean predicament as being self-generated and self-sustained, primarily due to choosing to play the regional hegemony game.

            YA’s proposal is a direct refutation of this choice to pursue the hegemonic game, and willfully closes off that option by removing the possible temptation. There are a lot of Ethiopians, and I will add myself to them, who think that unless temptation to hegemonic competition is addressed in some mechanism, the post-Isayyas era will not be much different as far as Ethiopia is concerned. It may just be another regime which thinks it can play the game better than Isayyas did. YA’s wisdom is remarkable in forestalling that. That is how I see it – not in terms of the technicalities of port and harbor per se.

            Amde

          • Hayat Adem

            Interesting angle: ports not as trade facilities but as portals of security, hegemony. this is very unusual. and then what else is usual in the region! this rule of unsualness burdens and scares the youth, scares of talents, tourists, money out of the region. it invites profiteering criminals, illegality, dark hands, weapons and violence.

          • Hope

            Aunti,
            Please develop some positive attitude…..
            Amde,
            Why are you completely ignoring the other side of th ecoin?I.e., the unpleasnat role of the TPLF/EPRDF/Ethiopia?
            Who is going to buy you?
            That is a gross insult to the Inteligence.

          • Hope

            Dear Amde,
            Please do NOT Judge Eritrea and Eritreans based on one or few peoples’ persona,actions or attitude.
            Rest assured that NOT only post-isyas Regimes, but Isayas’ regime has learned and will definitely change its course….1990s/20th Centuary and 21st Centuary are like ” semayin midrin!
            No need for Eritrea of the 21st Centuary to compete with Ethiopia but propbably with the other parts of the world—including Asia and Europe.

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Hope,

            This isn’t really a bad proposal for starters… One obvious thing that should be added to such proposal is, IMO, Ethiopia should give Eritrea some land as well (exact size could be negotiated). Eritrea needs some good source of water and land for agriculture, some land around Tekeze in exchange for sea access is a good deal IMO.

            Of course, any such arrangement would not work if there is no trust and good will on both sides.

            Best,

            FS.

          • Hope

            FS,
            I am for honest and peaceful and mutual Economic Integration.
            Plus,we have enough ,my man….Ruba Anseba and its future dam,Ruba Mereb(ghereger dam);Ruba Gash Barca with Gherset and others—-Alighidir,Omhajer,—-
            Have you been to the Plains of Barka?Please do so if not yet.

          • Hope

            FS,
            One more—
            We never refused to accomodate the Ethiopians with whatever they want–provided things are requested and done with trust and mutually and legally.
            It is more than a Hypocrisy for some people to tell us about this and that when it has been an open Policy of the TPLF to boycott our Ports—even when they were allowed to use them for Free so as to strangulate us and subjugate us…..
            “Let their Camels enjoy their ghost Ports”–simplifed,PMMZ/RIP.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hope,
            As un-sexy as it can be, PMMZ was right. He is vindicated. We couldn’t do anything with them after Ethiopia left. Well, we tried to offer them to US but they chose Djibouti. Look, Eritrean ports were and have been geographically ideal but not forever. If huge investment is incurred in other surrounding ports, they lose that preferential status and they grow to be ghost ports. The other option is using them for our own imports and exports. That too is possible if we can build a growing economy. Our current situation has deprived us of using them, offering them for base or leasing them for trade traffic. But now, it is not even about our ports, it is about the entire nation’s future.

          • Hope

            Come on Aunti Hayot,
            That is their choice but we have survived though despite all evil measures,acts,conspiracies,boycotting,etc..and we will,in fact,survive and stand TALLer and STRONGER than ever…jus watch. and get ready for a big time SURPRISE!
            If we survived 1979-1983 and the shidishte werrart and the Red Star Campaign,and won against all ODDs under the SUN,rest assured that we will survive and outshine and Eritrea as a Nation will prevail.

          • Hayat Adem

            “we will,in fact,survive and stand TALLer and STRONGER than eve”
            “just watch”
            “get ready for a big time SURPRISE!”
            “If we survived [past challenges] …we will survive and outshine”

            ኣየ እንዳ ህግደፍ!

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Hayat:
            Hope is into fashion, he called IA new pipe dream constitution, the latest const. He believes IAs’ one liner verdict to kill the document after all the hoopla of popular support and chants Eri is a country of laws except the general elections. Hope is so hopeful when it comes to the mirage that PFDJ offers, instead of hopping from PFDJ’s wreckage he saddles it with jubilation because he has guts and he is fearless, because he is fair. What is forgets is the manner of IA one liner verdict can be applied to his demise when IA wishes, or when IA hears the voices, those voices that Hope ad Nitricc hear. They do not hear the spoken voices and they do not use their ears, they have special six sense that picks those voices that is why they keep repeating to get ready of surporse

          • Hope

            We will —,mark my word–no matter what!
            Janhoy is gone,menghie is gone,meles is gone,IA will be gone but Eritrea and Eritreans will be there…and outshine and prevail as usual–against all ODDs!
            Temporary hiccups—migrations,lack of electricity,death—imprisonment,etc—-nothing is new…

          • Semere Andom

            Cousin Hope:
            So prophetic! yes IA will be gone one day that is for sure, the probability of IA will be gone one day is 100%, but this truth this certainty, how does it validate the unwavering support for the one that will be gone????????
            But was Melles really gone, are you sure?
            Mengistu is gone, HS is gone and Gaddafi is gone, Saddam is gone, but the Korean leader is not gone, in fact all the dictators of NK are not gone. If this sound Hebrew, Hayat Adem, otherwise affectionately knows as SDG (Smart Dedebit Girl) can decipher for your. I give her full permission to do so for belove cousin Hope, the prophet of prophets, the the only man consumed by the love of Eri, the gusty son of Keren, a bosom friend of Nitricc and the first cousin of the great Sal.

          • Hope

            Sem,
            Ooohh Yeah,PMMZ is gone for good…..Yeah,he did his best and every evil intention against Eritrea and he got what he deserved….as God has His own way of dealing with evil people.
            Do you want me to list his evil intentions and deeds?But why would I, when YOU,his own confidente know the details well?
            I will SUPPORT IA until I see a better IA–Capito–short-sighted gurregna?Show me the MONEY!
            Satirs,jokes,behind the computer gurra in a comfort zone,Pseud-Activism,”Pseudo-Oppositionism”,etc–will never do the trick.

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Hope,

            I see strong passion for Eritrea and Eritreans in you. Some times, when we are not able to do something for the things we are passionate about (thanks to ኣይሰርሑ፣ ኣየስርሑ PFDJ), our passion becomes desperation, which in itself is not too bad. We can choose to focus the desperation to propel us from inside (just like how the internal combustion inside motors is used to proper cars). Or we can act like a big mouthed ፍሕኛ by wasting our desperation/passion on some impact-less big farts and expose ourselves to mockery.

            Best regards,

            FS.

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Hope,

            I understand your sentiment. But here is the problem with us boasting that we have accommodated Ethiopia with free port…. Whatever agreement there was between Eritrea and Ethiopia was done by IA and he did it to his whims and arrested those who objected it for whatever reason (remember Bitweded Abraha). IA never disclosed any agreement (to the best of my knowledge) to us, Eritreans, let alone consult us.

            If there was an open agreement done with the blessing of Eritreans, I would not have any problem boasting. But, when you have IA doing things behind us, then it is kind of hard to make anything of that agreement or free service we gave…..At least make the document open and lets see it and then we will go from there. (As said, there might be a document out there, but I have not come across one, so if you have one please share with me).

            Regarding statement made by MZ, there are some unfortunate things said before on both sides that we simply have to over come and move on. We, Eritreans, can’t afford to live in indignation. And to be honest, MZ has also said a lot of good things about Eritrea and Eritreans, probably more than any other Ethiopian that I know of.

            Best,

            FS.

          • Hope

            Ahh,good points Fnote-Selam!
            My arguement and “boasting” was NOT about IA’s unilateral decision,which destroyed us and our historical Pride(refer to Vet Mahmoud Saleh’s testimony’s that I fully endorsed),but about the Hypocrisy these Pseudo-Intellectuals,Unionists and Chauvenists are bluffing about and bringing up issues as if we refused to accommodate them.
            As much as they refuted our trustful,honest,brotherly and peaceful accomodation,irrespective of who decided that agreement,we have a right to refute their bogus claims and bullying….so that they come back to their senses and deal things peacefully and mutually,not by bullying and with threats.

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Hope,

            I don’t think you can bring people back to their senses by calling them names. If we are confident that truth is on our side with regards to use of ports, lets disclose the agreement and related documents, and graciously show that we were nice to them. Most people who have common sense would appreciate that.

            I don’t think I (or for that matter most Eritreans) could say that we were trustful, honest etc when we weren’t even consulted or approved the port agreement. We can state, as a matter of fact, that Ethiopia has used the port, but hard for me to associate it with my generosity or good will.

            Regards,

            FS.

          • Hope

            FS,
            I stand corrected for my over-rreaction….but I was justt hitting back as a victim.
            As to ur generosity,well,my dear one,I am talking based on facts and experience.
            Who in the world could be as genereous and as forgiving as Eritreans,my man?

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Hope,

            Considering your self a victim is probably the biggest obstacle that gets in the ways of things you want to do and things you can do. Plus, no body feels sorry for you. IMO, passing your opinion and point of view graciously, keeping in the mind some people will never understand your point of view, is the best approach.

            I have no doubt Eritreans are generous and forgiving, but we have to learn to present out selves as such. It is ok for one’s emotions to boil over every now and then, but the consistently vicious words that we use on the web and every where else (lead by IA) really doesn’t reflect good on us and makes us look losers all the time.

            Having said, I really appreciate your passion for Eritrea and Eritreans.

            Best,

            FS.

          • Fnote Selam

            One thing I forgot to mention earlier though, this article by YA was written back in 2000-1 it seems. I wonder what he thinks of the credibility of international bodies and powerful nations now that we know they failed terribly to live up to trust put on them (I talking in relation to EEBC ruling).

            FS.