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ቛንቛ ዓረብ! اللغة العربية Arabic in Eritrea

[Rough transcript of the Negarit 50] First let’s see how we are divided economically. The sedentary, the nomad, and the people of the sea. Each has a different economic development and each has its peculiarities. I might talk about land in this context but now let’s stick to culture whose main component for today is language–Arabic

I  had promised to talk about Arabic, here I am fulfilling me promise. How do people (some people) see Arabic.

Why is Arabic so much resisted by some people and why are most of them Tigrinya speakers, and Christians? To them, Arabic is perceived as a religious language. But there are Arabs of many religions and atheists. I believe it’s the political aspect of it. If we say someone is an Arab, it doesn’t describe his religion but his race. The first Arab speaking people our region knew (they are probably the ancestors of many of us) were not Muslims. They were not even Christians but pagans, believers of Ashtar and other ancient religions.

What language was Abraha speaking when he ruled South Arabia? Probably Hemerite, Sabean, or Arabic.  Abyssinian clergy go to Alexandria to study theology, but I am not sure in what language they learn. Egyptian copts use Arabic and coptic which is antiquated like Geez.. and they are not Muslims. So, languages is not equal to religion, they are neutral. But now we have fascists, ethnocentrists, bigots and hypocrites.

What is fascism?

George Orwell said “the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless … and ‘bully’ is the synonym for ‘Fascist'”.

Before schools were stablished in Eritrea, people went to the church yards, monasteries and learned Abu Gida which is similar to Arabic by the way—before Haile Selassie changed it to Ha le Ha Me He Me Se Re Se

Similarly the Muslims went to Kuraan school and to learn the alphabets: alef baa taa thaa jim Haa, etc.

So, their education started with their respective basic education and both became their learning and self advancement languages. Muslims or Christians had no prejudice against Arabic and things existed naturally because the commonality in culture and linguistic similarity is amazing.

Alvarez and his group landed in Hergigo which he says was a Christian owned village but Moors lived there. Who are the moors? We will come to that.

They went to the Island of Massawa and had mass in a mosque, and the captain ordered the mosque to be converted to a church and named St. Mary.

That was in 1520s. We have to remember the Moors had just been pushed out of Iberia—Al Andelus, Andalusia. In his bookAlvarez says:

On some occasions it happened to us to sleep near these Arabs, they accosted us to ask if we wished to buy cows.These Moors, and headmen are all robbers under the favor of the lords to whom the cows belong,

I will skip a few centuries and arrive at Yohannes IV who took religious persecution to a new height when he proclaimed that anyone in his territory should convert to Christianity or face punishment, mainly death. Yohannes was promoting his version of Tewahdo and he also persecuted those who did not accept his sect’s doctrines. The rest of the Tewahdo had to leave their churches and convert to his sect—(people called the religion to which they converted as Kara Haymanot, derogatorily, the sect of the sword.) Many left their sects and joined his.

Yohannes could have had a grand view of uniting his kingdom under one religion like all kings and emperors of the time, to create a homogenous nation-state. It’s understandable but we do not have to look at our present state in his perspective and context. All others, mainly Muslims, in the region were forcefully baptized (This is a long and neglected history that needs to be addresses by competent historians and I will stop here.)

So, from Yohannes we jump into Haile Selassie era.

Haile Sellasie couldn’t balance the tilted scale and declared Tewahdo Christianity the official religion of his kingdom. He disenfranchised millions. Eritreans had reached the federal arrangement with Haile Sellasie and tried to balance the injustices and lack of freedoms that a feudal king could not offer. The Eritrean revolution started  to correct the imbalanced and claim their freedom, self-determination to chart their own future. They campaigned in the region. And found allies who could support them, Arabs. The clarion call was sounded—the Arabs want to invade Ethiopia, the Eritrea werebela (bandits) want to sell Eritrea to the Arabs. That craze has not stopped until today because there are uncleaned traces of it in our collective psyche—just like the current relations of Saudi Arabia and the UAE in our region.

Patriotic Eritrean Muslims and Christians, generally speaking, do not see an Eritrea without its Muslims or Christians, a nation of all, one country. Even many who are considered extremist do not cross that redline. But look at the Agazian, they are part of us, but feel their loyalty belongs elsewhere based on centuries old rivalries and even go back to the old testament. They do not mind wiping out entire groups of Eritreans just like that.

So, this is the context of the hate and prejudice against Arabic which is basically driven by bigotry against Muslims.

What am I?

My language is Tigrinya, in addition to many layers of identities, I am a bona-fide Habesha. Importantly, I am an Eritrean whose primary loyalty is to Eritrea. And that is why my heart bleeds when I see our politics has come to a very low level. Hypocrites, bigots, fascists, and ethnocentrists have polluted our national discourse and made it a Byzantine discourse. But I do not blame them so much because, when the scholars and academics, and generally, the sane, patriotic Eritreans leave vacuum, only the crazy fill the gap. And the PFDJ is still spreading ignorance, denying generations the freedom to widen their intellectual and academic capacity. It’s producing soldiers, young people who think of nothing but to escape their country. It has denied the youth any beam of hope to build themselves, economically, intellectually, socially and yet stay put in their country. And denied them the tools of enlightenment. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is our sorry state.

Economically, and personally, people of a nation have many interests—it could be political, economic and self expression. Who denies that a big chunk of Eritreans Arabic is the intellectual, economic and cultural vehicle—their education, they knowledge base, among other things. So, waste all their intellectual capital and go back to study ABUGIDA, the tigrinya alphabets?

As you know, I have no such problems as far as language is concerned. But it is not about me; it’s about a big chunk of Eritreans and those who are not affected should listen and learn what those who say they are wronged, are saying. That is how a nation is build, not by being self-centered and selfish. At the end, we are supposed to be one nation, equal citizens with equal rights. That is enlightened citizenship that the PFDJ has failed to build because it thinks songs and folklore dances will do the job.

What I discussed above is one perspective and  I will try to show other perspectives so that we avoid byzantine debates and instead debate like equal, carrying, free citizens, with the aim to find solution, to find a direction that we can collectively follow.

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  • Amanuel Hidrat

    ሰላም ዶ/ር ጳውሎስ, ሃይላት, መሃንድሳይ,……ወዘተ,

    ንፍቅሪ ሃገር ልዕሊ ፍቅሪ ህዝቢ ዝርእዩ ውልቀሰብ ይኹን ጉጅለ ምስምንታይ ይቁጸሩ? ሃገር ብዘይ ህዝቢ እንታይ ትርጉም አለዎ? ሃገር ልዕሊ ህዝቢ ገይርካ ምርኣይ ከም ሓድሽ ተርእዮ አብ ህዝብና ተራእዩ:: እዚ ተርእዮ’ዚ ተርእዮ ምዕባለ ድዩስ ዋላ ተርእዮ ድሕረት? በቲ ይኹን በቲ ገለ ሓሳባትኩም’ዶ ከተካፍሉና ትኽእሉ? ምስኡ ጎኒጉኑ ዝኸይድ ከአ ብዛዕባ ምዕባለ ሃገር ክንዛረብ ከለና ምዕባለ ህዝቢ ማለት’ዶ ኣይኮነን? እንድሕሪ ኾይኑ’ኸ ምስቲ ንፍቅሪ ሃገርን ንፍቅሪ ህዝብን ዝምልከት ዘለዎ ዘንባዕ አረኣእያ ህዝብና እንታይ ዝምድና አለዎ?

    • Thomas

      Hi Amma,

      I would not say it is a love of a nation vs her people. I would say it is a love of “Isu natna”. “bidhri Isu wegiha Ai’tmse – Sa’eri aitkola eza hager”. Who are those trying to show much love for the nation than others? If these people were quite when Ethiopian regime (the HS, derg) were burning our nation and people with napalm bombs, how come they fall in love with the nation now all at a sudden? No, it is the opposite. I think they have too much lover for the dictator and his click because they think he is “one of them”. The dictator in his recent interview at sawa has again tried to send a coded message to this people. He claimed that he is only opposed by a certain people from one region. We probably need to dig deep into that coded message – me think.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Thomas,

        Both narratives coexist in their mindset that is bizarre in modern world of psychological mind.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes Amanuel,,,,

      “We miss the inputs of Saay, Haile-TG, Yohannes, Ismailo, Kbromay & Dr Beyan in our debate.” I really do,,,,What about those ladies ,,,women participants ?

      KS,,

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kokhbay,

        You are right. Dr Tsigereda and Dr Sarah Ogbay some I could remember. We lost them because of the PFDJ trollers who have no human respect at all.

        Regards

    • Paulos

      Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

      Thank you for the food for thought. Country, nation and state have different conetations with in a text, sub-text and context as well. That said however, none of them carry any meaning if people are out of the equation. One can make an equal argument that the reverse can also be true. If we take the argument seriously, it will take us to the egg or chicken dichotomy. Something has to give nonetheless.

      Countries are curved out of a huge land and the stronger makes a claim for it afterwards. That is to say that, when countries are practical and tangible, the idea of nations becomes more of a metaphysical and the state becomes more of a political in nature. More over, the right to own and claim the land becomes more of a legal issue where it animates the abstract notion we call love of a country which can sometimes drift into a menace when those who make the claim see others as others.

      We certainly are getting ahead of ourselves for the people who make the claim have to build the nation and creat a political state first and foremost. If the nation they build and the state they creat is to be enduring, how do they redistribue the political power including the economic dividends? Aristocracy, oligarchy or democracy? Command economy, mixed economy or open market economy? Socially conservative, liberal or theocracy? What is embedded with in the said smart terms is that, those who start out with the citizen is the ultimate sovereign, endured and weathered the storm throughout history.
      Those who didn’t, fail where the idea of love for the country or the people loses any meaning if the citizen is not the sovereign.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Al-Ustaz Hidrat,

      A human being is the center of any development. Without developing the mindsets of ourselves and our people, there will never be any growth and stability in Eritrea. The first step towards evolution is not the treatment of surface issues. However, we should delve deep in the culture from which the psyches imbibe their knowledge. We should address the source of all the problems properly by taking out all impurities drawn from the rotten pool. Our minds should drink from clean pools and uncontaminated ones. As far as we leave those pools from which we draw our knowledge rotten and endeavor to manage the surface issues, nothing will be changed. We will just be condemned to reiterate the same inputs and get the same outputs. What we witness in Eritrea is a plain example. Continually, the same problems repeat themselves in their worst form.

      I could analogize the rotten pools and sick minds with mosquitoes and malaria. If you give medicine to a malaria sick person, he might feel temporarily well. However, malaria will visit him again and again. The best solution to get rid of malaria completely is to fight mosquitoes. Similarly, we should fight the bad cultures that invaded Eritrea during the past eight decades. Primarily, we should rectify our perspective on a human being.

      Importing factories and constructing skyscrapers by foreigners do not make us advanced and civilized people, but fixing our mindsets properly could make us enlightened, advanced and civilized people. We have an example in Libya. Gaddafi imported factories, to the extent of nuclear plants, built roads, industrial river, etc. however, he ignored the minds of the Libyans. The result is they have destroyed all by their own hands for the interests of foreigners.

      First Civilization should occur in the minds before it takes place on the grounds.

      Al-Arabi

    • Admassie

      ሰላም ኣማኑኤል ሕድራት:

      ብገለ ኣቢልካ ዶ ሰሚዕኻን ትኸውን ኢለ ሓሲበ። ክብረት ይሃብካ ነዛ አገዳሲት ሐሳብ ዘልዓልካያ።

      ብወገንና ማዕረ ናብ ጽላለ ዘብጽሕ “ፍቕር ሃገር” ዝብሃል ሕማም ካብ ዝጸልዎና ክንደይ ኣስታታት ሓሊፉ። ክንደይከ ዘይኮነን ዘይተገብረን! እንሆ ሕጅ ኸዓ በዓል ሓድሽ መተርኣስ – ዶ/ር ኣብይ- ” የሞተው ሞቶ በተረፈው ሰው አገር ትቀጥላለች ” ይብለና’ሎ። ከሙኡን ከሙኡ ዝኣምሰሉ ንነብሶም ፍሉይ ፍቕሪ ሃገር ዘለዎም ኮይኑ ዝስምዖም ወገናት: ሃገር እንክብሉ ግዝኣት ማለቶም ድኣ እምበር ህዝቢ ኣይኮነን። ፍቕር ሃገር’ውን ፍቕር እተሓንፀፀ ዶብ እምበር ፍቕር እቲ ሰብ ባዐል ዋና- ህዝቢ ኣኮነን።

      ህዝቢ ሃገር ይፈጥር ደኣ እምበር: ሃገር ህዝቢ ኣይፈጥርን። ህዝቢ ብዘይ ሃገር ክነብር ይኸእል’ዩ: ሃገር በዘይ ህዝቢ ግን ህልው ኣይኮነን። ህዝቢ ካብ ሃገር ንላዕሊ’ዩ!

      ሰለዚህ ሕማምና ይላገበኩም ከይህልው?!

      አድማሴ አ/

    • Haile S.

      Selam Emma,

      Country- and People-loving notions are artefactual fabricated seemingly opposing instruments of political war that either camps use to bombard the other in the airways. These notions are the perfect launching grounds and habitats of each camp. The regime and its regimers control and/or have access to the country. The opposition’s core is located in outside lands where people’s right and freedom are relatively respected and have become their insignia. The war is unconventional taking place in two different places, but obviously disproportionate. The powerful lander is preventing the justice & freedom seeker to work in his/her beloved land that desperately needs these primordial elements of a true country.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; what humbly would like to know is that how many percent of the Eritrean population is an Arab? Please I will love some one enlighten me. The talk this Arabic language is getting radicles. again I ask you what is the percentage for Arabic population in Eritrea?

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam Nitricc
      In ethiopia, in every Islamic institution and Islamic holidays, the languages they use r Arabic and Amharic. why u think it is? Arabic is a language of not just communicate and literature, but it is a language of Islam.

    • Blink

      Dear Nitricc
      It is only the small % of rashaida where they migrated to the region is a known history.The language issue is used in here to galvanize support from the believers of Islam and that can only be achieved if you put toxic individuals as well as an attainable dreams .

      There is no an Arab from ethnicity stand point but as Hassen Al turabi used to say “in religion people are free”. Imagine if you are out side region ,you get killed and may be the slightest power They is to get you banned banned , I hope that sums up everything for you . The language issue is used to divide Eritreans by adding all the small ethnicity against a formidable opposite side of the other side of Eritrea . Arabic is said the word of the ME god where his age just become 1440 years which is a junior grade compared to human beings achievement data .

      How do the dinosaurs get their teeth and their elimination condition would be a better story than making noise about language usage for another purpose.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Nitricc,

      0.0 % to 1 decimal place.

      • Plus one…

        AHfazzz your limits to infinity and your logarithmic scales. Speak with an illiterate asking the question. As REDICULE ridiculous REDIC Nitric. And then there is talks of ….. The Arabs gave you al sefirr and the holding places you can credit the Chinese. Merchants favorite tool the counting sticks and the Abacus.

        JOSHUA!

        tSAtSE

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Nitricc,

      I don’t know the answer to your question but it also doesn’t matter. Saay and other intellectuals used to be irritated when some of us used the terms “Allah” and “God” with some distinction. They claimed there is no difference between the terms and can be used interchangeably.

      In a different page one of their Islamic scholars states that “Allah” …..chose…. Arabic as the language of his direct message to mankind. I presume all Muslim are taught that and some consider that aspect as a core belief.
      That belief alone makes Arabic language as a way to bring the people of the world to “Allah’s” chosen language, a mission pursued with some vigor.

      The westernized Muslims use every dancing the local language allows to fudge that core belief.

      Mr. K. H

      • Hope

        Selam Kim:
        Unfortunately, u might be right and correct!

        It is better off to close the debate on this issue.
        Am ok talking about Langiage and Culture.
        Some of us with basics of Islam/“Islamology” and Religious Studies/Islam,Judaism/Christianity,Buddhism’s,etc…,History of Religions/Theology 101, could have expounded what u said …
        It is a very sensitive matter to debate on this matter publicly .

        What people tell u superficially and what they say and do behind the scene is different and even scary.

        We are talking about an Old Testament style and cultist culture style of stoning and beheading an alleged “ heretic” or an alleged adulterer to death, not just cutting the hand of a thief, like what the Saudis and even the Sudanese do.
        Is it a “Sharia Law” or “Islamic Law” or Country-specific culture?
        Please clarify…..

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Kim Hanna,

        I felt very sorry when I realize you speak about an issue you don’t know. It is very good to go to the source, read and understand.

        God has ninety-nine names in Islam. I will jot for you some of them below:

        1- The Merciful
        2- The Healer
        3- The Almighty
        4- The Lord
        5- The Creator
        6- The Sustainer
        7- The Restorer
        8- The Knower and so on up-to 99

        ኣዘ እትላ ህደጊ (Now, you could tell your story)

        Al-Arabi

  • Hope

    Hello All!
    The Comment of the Year/Century:

    “A. – How do you know Arabic is “so much resisted by Tigrigna speakers, and Christians”? I bet you can’t back-up your claim with facts and figures! You’re just playing divisive political fiddle to appease and incite your narrow constituents.

    B. – Saleh: When it comes to the Arabic language, you’re entitled to nothing. You’re no closer to the Arab identity, culture, or language more than I am. No Eritrean Muslim has identity or cultural connection/attachment to the Arab culture and language more than his/her Christian counterpart. None whatsoever. Deal with it!

    C. – One doesn’t have to be a Muslim to stand for an Arabic language. And by the same token, one doesn’t have to be a Christian to stand against Arabic language. Muslims are for Arabic language but most people who oppose Arabic language are Tigrigna speakers and Christians is a divisive bogus claim.

    D. – There is no direct relationship between the Islamic faith and having Arabic language as a national language. Eritrea doesn’t have to have Arabic as its National/working language to protect the rights of Eritrean Muslims. It is not either or. Eritrean Muslim rights could be fully protected without.

    E. – Somalia, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia ………. haven’t made Arabic as their national language. But they are no less Muslims compared to other Arabic speaking countries. What makes you think, Eritrea needs Arabic language as its national language more than these Muslim majority countries?

    The point: Whatever you say or do, please don’t tell us ‘we Eritrean Muslims have a special relation to the Arabic language and culture more than our Christian brothers’. Because you don’t speak for Eritrean Muslims; and because Eritrean Muslims don’t have a special relation to the Arabic language and culture more than their Christian brothers. Many Eritrean Muslims were Christians (descendants) at some point and vise versa”.

    Courtesy of Tegadalai Semere Tesfay.
    Semere:
    Can you expound this to an Article supported with facts and sources like you did a brilliant one about the TPLF and Baduma?
    “Badime: The Death Bed of the TPLF”.

    • Selam Hope,

      Both arabic and islam started in the arabian peninsula. Their progress does not seem to be exactly the same. There are countries that have Islam as a state religion but do not speak arabic. (Known facts).Let me ask you; is there an arabic speaking country that doesnot have Islam as a state religion?
      Shouldn’t arabic therefore be for those who have the historic and cultural connections and it should not be imposed on christians and other ethnic groups who choose to speak their mother tongue and not a language that is alien to them. On a personal basis each one can learn any language he/she wants. The government can decide on what the official/state language(s) should be, and not on what language people should be taught and speak, especially in an ethnically diverse country, which means those who want arabic will learn arabic and those who want tigrigna will learn and speak their chosen language, tigrigna. What do
      you think?

      • Hope

        Selam Horizon:
        I completely agree with you and with your logic but the drama is beyond that and beyond intricate and complex and has its own complicated historical perspective.
        It is as old as Eritrea’s history..

        I blame Janhoy,the British and the UN.

        Of utmost importance,there is an unhealed wound of mistrust between the followers of the two major Religions …

        That is why I told Blink that i wish Religion never existed.
        The other segment of our society will never understand me let alone you ,an external observer.
        There was a legit reason as to why the EPLF considered English to be the Official Language of Eritrea.

        Simply coz I expressed my legitimate opinion,am being labeled as this and that …..besides being misperceived as if I am “preferentially treating” The Catholic Church vs the Arabic Language thing(The Muslims in this case).
        Plus,do NOT forget the toxic and backward Eritrean Political Culture,where “They agree NOT to agree” for the most part.

        Guess who is benefiting from toxic and backward mentality and division?
        Issu,the ” greatista”!

        This topic is toxic and that is why I am pushing to put it aside for the right time,.but again,since I opinionated as such,I am considered against Muslims of Eritrea.
        This is crap and bulxxxxt

    • Selamat Hope,

      Ironic. Or whatever it is… but not so long ago and the headlines may still read: The closure of the Catholic facilities in Eritrea where you were impassionately prosecuting Semere Tesfay on the basis of your religion. I understand that you are a Catholic and not necessarily for the rights of a citizen to worship as his or her God commands them. If we Eritreans were to ask all Eritreans who celebrated and prayed this past Eid at Mosque, I am quite certain they would prefer Arabic as well as Tigrigna or any other language, it could be Russian or Tibetan, to serve as an official Eritrean language. And if you were to ask Eritreans should the GoE persecute Catholics last month or at any other time? I am also quite confident the same Eid holiday only days ago, now or at any other day at the doorsteps of the mosques, inside outside or anywhere in the world all Eritreans would condemn GoE’s erratic and irrational acts. Which I find your post above to be of the same behavior that is erratic and irrational. Though Semere Tesfay puts forth rational arguments and may possibly be right but the issue at hand is more about rights NOT about right soundbites. Ghadi ‘s carrying of the big skin is worrisome as he fumbled from the gate only to illustrate is adamant stand. Only problem is his purpose to illustrate the he stands firm albeit with false conditioning. Folks like Blink, Nitric and Semere Tesfay and other enablers huddle and spew their sophomoric stratagem as they emblazon Sapatia and her father’s book on Euclid’s the elements analysis. Yes the woman was dragged into a church and was beaten burned by the mob, into the dark ages the push was faith and not science in spite of western migration by the learned and the Arab light was bright and lit carrying the torch.
      Suppose you advocate escuola Italia and the good reason being you studied at Lassalle or Camboni? Would you think Semere Tesfay would give a flying rat’s behind? After picketing the MOD I now feel you killed all Hope.

      JOSHUA!

      tSAtSE

      • Hope

        Seamat Solomon aka Gtsatse:
        Hahaha Sellie.
        I thought you are better off–than the certain Mehandis.
        Not sure if i understood your encrypted,sophisticated articulation with lots of Semna Werk.
        Let me be clear here if at all you are criticizing my cut and post comment of Semere tesfay:
        I made myself clearer than ever and than any body else about the issue of languages in Eritrea:
        I endorsed the EPDP’s Political Program and crystal clear stand on this issue:
        -Respect and develop all Eritrean Languages and cultures equally
        -Accept UNCONDITIONALLY Arabic and Tigrniya Languages (as well as English) as Working/Official Languages .
        My debate and argument /stand or position on this redundant Article/topic is:

        -It is NOT necessary to bring it up repeatedly and politicize it as it is an existential threat or as Between Life and Death case scenario..as it might people to have some negative perceptions and implications for both aisles at this moment

        -Leave it to the Constitutionally elected assembly and /or put it on Referendum if deemed necessary on due time

        -FOCUS on URGENT matters now.. to create a CONDUCIVE Environment for the above noble causes to be executed/to happen..
        N.B.
        There is NO correlation whatsoever between this controversial and non-issue of Arabic Language and the unforgivable Human Rights Crime of destroying the life-saving Health Care Programs of the Catholic Church.
        I am debating on the Arabic language from political point of view ,NOT from a Human Rights point of view,even though it could be a Human Rights case depending from where you are coming from.

        If you and that certain “Mehandis” understood me otherwise as if I am discriminating Justice(Catholics vs Muslims ),well,you both are WRONG and you better change your perception on or attitude towards HOPE and his stand….

        Disclaimer:
        You are dealing with a citizen,who has been a victim of every crime or abuse under the sun as a Lowlander and as a son of Christians and Muslims….in my own very town of Keren by certain back word chavenists and regionalists,who are CATHOLICS in Leadership.

        Me and my Mom were called with names as “Shehay and Sehbti ghimel based on my name and our (Mom’s cultural attire–Tgrayit and Bllenayit dress and hair styles).
        I am a survivor,along with other Lowlanders/kerenites of intra-regionalist war within the Catholic Mission and Boarding School simple coz I am/was a Lowlander…

        I could/should have been the real Ali Salim and the Author of that true but unpleasant narration by Ali Salim,based on my experience,but hey,that is past but a SAD history….

        We all know the Intra-ELF and ELF-EPLF civil war drama..and ..that kind of “Civil War” happened and some of us had been victims of such sad history in the “Holiest” places in the world ruled by the holiest rules and regulations…

        FORGIVE and FORGET…
        National Reconciliation..

        • Selamat Hope,

          Yeah I was the one who sat next to Muhandis MiEbale. If only I can flow like the waves Handessa puts forth. I suppose mimicking is the best flattery. I was convinced that I must have read the engineer for developments response to you. … The would be puppeteer is getting happy with his controls. Only the coward keeps his finger on the trigger. Lest we forget the reach for the handshake like the surfing spider jumps at the the sound of a Mack truck honking its horn. The web weave AAlieba Sariet and the Wind Serfer
          the Self
          the Sefer brerrr
          Hereme – HarreQue
          Lebede – lettette

          TLTR the selfish ShellFish Meemme. Miemme Malek ya ZZoll?

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TSAtSE,

            I know you may not want to respond to me after what happened last time.

            You keep saying Joshua, Are you referring to Fessahaye Yohannes?

            If so, did you just found out recently what happened to him or us there another Joshua ?

            Berhe

          • nminnttayy Berhe? Liimazzzza ya Akhuunna? AAreftta wala WaHda Hagga.. Haaggaika ykkhrömm.

            When you found out what do you do?

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSATSE,

            Well, I did some thing that I thought was important at that time. I had contacted AI,CPJ, HRW and the US state department as well as the UN HR and alerted them and contacted with them. I have passed in the pictures of few members of the G15 and the journalists and AI and other human rights org still use them today (it wasn’t my original pics but that I collected from ERITREAN websites).

            In Joshua and other journalists in particular, I had lengthy and direct contact with CPJ (committee to protect journalists) and the person who was in charge at the time had asked to visit Eritrea from New York and visited. He called me before his departure and soon after his return. All the report that CPJ had at that time was based on that.

            I am not making this up, you can ask Saay if you need to confirmation.

            Sadly, when I joined AT, I was distracted arguing with people like you and Nitricc, and have not done much.

            Berhe

          • So you did.

          • Hope

            Good JOB Berhe Y.
            Did not know that.
            I was complimenting the Awate Team,Elsa and Meron…only.

          • Hope

            Good job Berhe!
            Congrats.
            You deserve better credit than those with “ showy-wishy “ bravado.

        • Ha to Hu from Hu Jinh Ta

          Tatte key belle
          abb enda padre
          end Lesale
          Shi Shinii
          Walla Shinu
          Junnuu
          ya Jinnie
          YaEni..

          Zekirrka doh bimbeirii
          enkabb AQurdett bzzeyy fraH
          walla Hifrett
          Anta gienna bEishellu
          Gergurr AnkaElillu Hallilu
          kemm zeyyEillu Berrirru
          Unko Ambulansa Flanssa
          Wedi Ferensa
          Sium tSehayye abba Ainnuu
          Ha… noE AAffann yaEi terekhibuleyy
          kemzeybiluu Wanninnu
          keA reAinayyo keEnennnu kullu we TA masinuu…

          HiletSudan brikh godenna ketanne
          gorebietanna enda Hailesilassie
          TTiQanna ewe etta enda duken
          bzeyy wereQett meshrefett k
          kemm Jebena
          TTiQa Hospitallllllettta Gobena
          anta goblell HizaEtinna kwirerrr
          etomm CHoQentiii kuHunti

          DeHann Wedi SenHitt
          TeAzebb srHitt
          Kgnfill kifillfill kmiEbill kemm
          S E T I T
          Gash Gash DoH ASSHHH
          Abb Fanko kemm EinQribitt

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

          • Hope

            Tsatse:
            What the heck r u mumbling about?
            Thought we are debating on kumnegher!
            Eway tekkalitey!
            Hatewketew?

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ሰብ ቋንቋ

    ሓደ-ልቢ ሓደ-ህዝቢ
    ‘ናበልካ ዓረብኛ ምንጻግ
    ኣዮኮነንዶ
    ፍርቂ ሃገር ካብ ካርታኻ ምጽራግ

    ክልተ ሃይማኖት ውህደት
    ‘ናበልካ
    ኣይኮነንዶ ብ 50% ውሕደት
    ንፍርቂ ጎድንኻ ክሕደት

    ስኒት ህዝብና ስጡም
    ‘ናበልካ ኣይመስልን ዶ
    ንሕና ጥራይ ኢና ሰብ ቅልጽም

    ከቢረ-ወል ወል-ኢብራሂም ሱልጣን
    ‘ናበልካ ኣየርእንዶ
    ነታ ሓቂ ብናይ ሓሶት ትኪ ምዕጣን
    ኣቤት ክኸፍእ ህርፋን ስልጣን

    ስለዚ ነነጽሮ

    ወይ የለን ስኒት-ውህደት
    ወይ ማዕረ ሚዛን የለን ናይ ሃይማኖት

    ‘ተ ዘይኮይኑ
    ዓረብኛ ካልኣይ ቋንቋ ተኾይኑ

    ዘካትዕ የለን
    ተኾነ ንሕበን
    ተዘይኮይኑ ንመሳገን

    ናብ ካልእ ኣጀንዳ ንሕለፍ
    ብዙሕ ኣለና ተረፍ
    ሃየ ንበል ሃገር ከይትሽረፍ
    ከይንከዓብ ከይንጽረፍ

    • Semere Tesfai

      ሰላም መሃንድስ ምዕባለ

      “ሓደ-ልቢ ሓደ-ህዝቢ
      ‘ናበልካ ዓረብኛ ምንጻግ
      ኣዮኮነንዶ
      ፍርቂ ሃገር ካብ ካርታኻ ምጽራግ”

      1. – መሃንድስ – ቋንቋ ዓረብ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ ‘ተዘይ ኮይኑ፡ “ፍርቂ ሃገር (ኣስላማይ ዘበለ) ካብ ካርታ ኤርትራ ይጽረግ ኣሎ” ኢኻ ትብል ዘለኻ። መልሰይ፡ እዚ ጭው ዝበለ ሓሶት ‘ዩ

      እስከ ብትግርኛ ከረዳኣካ ክፍትን፡ ትግሪኛ ‘ዩ ዝርዳኣካ ‘መስለኒ። እቲ ዘካትዕ ዘሎ ዛዕባ፡ ቋንቋ ዓረብ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ ይኹንዶ ኣይኹን እዩ – ቋንቋ ዓረብ ይዘረብዶ ኣይዘረብ፡ ንመሃሮዶ ኣይንመሃሮ፡ ንጠቐመሉዶ ኣይንጠቐመሉ ኣይኮነን። ዕላውነትን ዘይዕላውነትን ቋንቋ ዓረብ ኣብ ሃገረ ኤርትራ ድማ፡ ምስ ነጻነትን ዘይነጻነትን ምእመና ምስልምና ዘታኣሳስር ዋላ ሓንቲ የብሉን።

      ኣብ’ዛ ዓለምና፡ ሕብረተሰብ ኢራን፡ ፓኪስታን፡ ኣፍጋኒስታን ካብቶም ኣዝዮም ዓቀብትን ጽኑዓት ብሃይማኖት ምስልምናን እዮም። ግን ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኢራን፡ ፓኪስታን፡ ኣፍጋኒስታን ዓረብ ኣይኮነን – እትምንታይ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ሃገር ምስ ሃይማኖት ዘተኣሳስር ስለዘየብሉ።

      2. – “ክልተ ሃይማኖት ውህደት
      ‘ናበልካ
      ኣይኮነንዶ ብ 50% ውሕደት
      ንፍርቂ ጎድንኻ ክሕደት”

      ሕጅ’ውን፡ ‘ቋንቋ ዓረብ እንተደኣ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኣርትራ ዘይኮይኑ፡ ፍርቂ ጎኒ ኤርትራ (እቲ ኣስላማይ ክፋል) ንኽሕዶ ኣለና’ ኢኻ ትብል ዘለኻ። ሕጅ’ውን መልሰይ፡ ‘እዚ ጭው ዝበለ ሓሶት ‘ዩ’ እዩ።

      ግን ክሓተካ – ሕራይ፡ ዕላውነት ቋንቋ ዓረብ ኣብ ኤርትራስ ምስ መሰል ምእመና ምስልምና ኣተኣሳሰካዮ፡ ንዕላውነት ቋንቋ እንግሊዝ ከ ምስ ምንታይ ተተኣሳስሮ? ምስ ክርስትና? ዕላውነት ቋንቋ ስዋሂሊ ኸ? ቋንቋ ህንዲ ኸ? ቋንቋ ጃፓን ከ? እዞም ኣብ ምዕራባውያን ሃገራት ተቐሚጦም፡ ምዕራባዊ ቋንቋ ዝዛረቡ ኣስላም፡ እቲ ዝነብሩሉ ሃገር ዕላዊ ቋንቁኡ ዓረብ ብዘይምዃኑ፡ “ዝተኾነኑ ወይ ካብ ካርታ ዓለም ዝተሓኩ” ክፋል ናይቲ ዝነብሩሉ ሕብረተሰብ ዝኾኑ ዶ ‘መስለካ ? እቶም ኣብ ሃገራት ዓረብ ተቐሚጦም ዓረብ ዝዛረቡ ክርስትያን ከ እንታይ ትብሎም? እቶም ኣብ ህንዲ፡ ኣብ ሶማልያ፡ ኣብ ቱርኪ፡ ኣብ ኢራን፡ ኣብ ኢንዶነዥያ…. ዘለዉ ኣስላምከ፡ ኣብ ዓለም ከለዉ ዝተኾነኑ ኣካል ሕብረተሰብ ዓለምዶ ‘መስለካ?

      መሃንድስ – እቲ ዘሐዝን፡ መሃንድስ ምዕባለ ኢልካ ንነብስኻ ኣጠሚቕካ፡ ኣብ ናይ ድሕረት ድቕድቕ ጸልማት ምንባርካ እዩ። እዚ ዘይትዕወተሉ ምዉት ሓሳብ እዩ – ይትረፍካ።

      ሰመረ ተስፋይ

      • Hope

        Selam Semere:

        Aytibke endiyu zebkiyeni zello.
        Akatarinet or unjustifiable /lame solidarity?
        I consider this as a revival of the old toxic anti-UNITY , the dying digital weyAne style propaganda..

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Selam Hope,

          ኣንታ ሓውና ተስፋ
          ብኣምሆይ’ዶ ካቶሊክ ተተንኪፋ
          ኢልካ ክንደይ ዘረባ ኣይገበርካን
          ስለምንታይ ደኣ ሕጂ ቀይርካ መኣዝን
          ፍትሒ ሓደ ጎድኒ ኣይኮነን

          ክብ ሓደ ናብ ሓደ ኣብ ክንዲ ትነጥር
          ርገጽ! መትከልካ ኣነጽር
          ወይ ንፍትሒ
          ወይ ድማ ኣስቅጥ ብፍርሒ

          መርገጺኻ ኣይነጸረን
          ሕማቕ ዩ ላንጋ-ላንጋ ምዃን
          ክሊንካት ተዓጽየን

          ኢልካ ድምጺ ምስ ኣስማዕካ
          ሓቂ መሲሉኒ ኔሩ ኣብ ፍትሒ ዝረገጽካ
          ግምጥል! ወርሒ ከይጸናሓካ

          ግደፍ ግደፍ ተመለስ
          ወይ ድማ ኣይትዓንቅፍ ንዝቃለስ
          ምስ ምንታይ ይቑጸር
          ዝኹሉ ሃበስ ቀደስ

          • Hope

            Selam Mehandis:
            Firstly,I admire and appreciate your Tigrinya Literature grasp.
            Kudos to you.

            Secondly,besides your selective reading and memory,do NOT try to be more Catholic than the Pope….irrespective of who you are or what YOUR BACKGROUND IS.

            Thirdly,Hope has made his stand crystal clear since zemene ennini on the issue of the Arabic Language in Eritrea,which i stated as a DISCLAIMER,i.e,Hope showed you his FIRM stand on Equal Justice.

            Granted,to your dismay,politicizing unnecessarily and UNJUSTIFIABLY,the Arabic Language drama/saga in Eritrea at the wrong time and wrong situation so as to keep us divided and polarized during the time when we are supposed to be and struggling to get more united to expedite the past due change we have longed for, is being against Justice ,not just being an Obstructionist to the Struggle for Justice.

            Hope is talking about facts, bitter truth and realities…NOT about metaphysics and rotten or irrelevant issues and tellin it as it is,does NOT make one a flip-flopper ro changing his stand.

            When I talked about the tragedy on the Catholic Church Health Care System by the regime,I was talking about traversity against UNIVERSAL JUSTICE,not just against the Catholic Church.

            Your deliberately twisted comment speaks volumes.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Hope

            “If we have to allow every group or entity one to claim what they want ….like to have a new Nationality,a new adm, autonomy,new religion,new language,etc…then what?”

            ካብ ኮለል ምባል ክሳድ ምሓዝ እንድዩ:
            መን ‘ዩ ህዝቢ ትግርኛ ዓዳሊ ብሄር ዋላ ዓዳሊ ቋንቋ ዝገበሮ?

            ከምዝመስለኒ መሰል ሓደ ክፍል ህዝብስ ግደፍ ሓደ ውልቀሰብ ክግፈፍ ዘይጣበቕ ቅንዕና ዘለዎ ኣይኮነን።
            ‘ዛ ናብ ወያኒ ምባል መቸም ክትፍትዉዋ። ከምዛ ጨው ‘ኳ ጌርኩማ ሎምስ:
            ኣብ ዝኾነ ዓይነት ጸብሒ ትኣቱ።

          • Hope

            Mehandis:
            Hold on bud,if u are a real Mehandis,address Hope’s issues and concerns in a Mehandist’s way.

            What the heck has Kebessa or Kristinna’ to do with my question or u thought Hope is a Highlander Christian?

            FYI:
            As I repeatedly declared it,Hope is CHIW Zibele Lowlander and a son of Muslim and Christian families!

            Korquihatikka timessil alla exza nay weyAne negher!

            Brought it legitimately as the WeyAne has been at the forefront to use and abuse this Religion and Region Card so as to divide Eritrea and Eritreans on the religious and rotten regional lines or politics.
            My question is:
            Why raise or bring up now this redundant stuff at this moment?

            U remember that these kinds of obsolete but dangerous divisive propaganda hit HIGH when Eritrea was going through existential threat?

            I consider this as a failed and futile approach and as a sign of desperation by those Obstructionists!.

            My point is that there is NO reason at this moment to distract us from strengthening our unity and struggle against the same Regime u guys are claiming as an UNJUST System but /and yet giving it more life by bringing up old and divisive and polarizing issues as if this stupid language issue is a “between a life and death situation”!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሆፕ

            ትሓዋውሶ ኣለኻ። ክምኡ ድማ ናይ ህግደፍ ታህዲድ ትሕውስ ኴንካ።
            ትኽ ኢልካ ምምላስ ልመድ። ናብ ወያነ ‘ባ መድሃኔ ኣይትሃውትት።

            ገዛኻ ‘ዶ ተጽሪ ደሓር ናብ ጎረበትካ ትኸይድ። ወያነ ጸገም ተለዎም ጸገሞም ይፍትሑ።
            ጸገም ከምዘይብልናስ ናብ ካል ኦት።

            ሕጂ ምልስ በል
            ሀ. ሕጂ ግዜኡ ኣይኮነን ኣይትበል። መዓስ ደኣ? እዚኣ ናይ ኢሳያስ ሽጣራ ‘ያ። ኣድኪማትና ከማን ሕጅስ
            ለ. ፍርቂ ህዝብና መሰል ቋንቋና ይከበረልና ይብል ኣሎ። መሰሎም ነኽብረሎም
            ኣበይ ዩ ዘሎ ትጸገም?

          • Hope

            Mehandis:
            Final remarks:
            Accept the Universal Facts and Truth Hope stated .

            Hope is telling it as it is.

            Put aside non urgent and constitutional issues and get united,work hard and own the YeAkil Movement exclusively as an Eritrean Movement and create a United and Strong Leadership with a CLEAR VISION to coordinate for an expeditious change for the past due change we have longed for decades…

            The newly United EPDP ….the HOPE of future Eritrea.

            Stop these kemish addey hanquiluni none sense business and obstructionist agenda!
            Rather,JOIN the Progressives NOW!

            ENOUGH is ENOUGH to the PFDJ and the fake and mercenary Pseudo-opposition Movements!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam hope,
            “The newly United EPDP ….the HOPE of future Eritrea.”

            ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣወጊንካስ United?

            ትትብልዎን ትገብርዎን 180 ዲግሪ ኮይኑ።You have 180 degree phase lag my friend!

            ትገርሙ።

          • Hope

            Selam Mehandis:
            I think you are, inadvertently , EXPOSING your true self!

            Ezias sussa

            You sound that you are here with a crooked agenda of polarizing Eritreans in the name of Religion and Language!

            Dude,for God’s sake,where is our crime for calling for a United Eritrean Party?
            Where and when did we try to exclude our 50% of our population !

            When you are cornered,as Semere said it, you become defensive.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Hope,
            ሸንኮለል ኮይኑ ስራሓካ።
            Rejecting Arabic as a 2nd language is denying the rights of 50% of Eritreans. How hard is to grasp this?

          • Hope

            SelamMehnadis:
            There is NO shenkolol by HOPE here but straight-forward shooting but you are conveniently and purposely twisting things.
            Read what I repeatedly told you and tsatse.
            Here is the message:
            STOP politicizing the Religion,Region and Language card here.in a WeyAne style–at the wrong time and in an inappropriate way during the wrong situation..while we are struggling to be united so as to expedite the change we have longed for thereby to create a conducive environment to debate and decide on the Constitutional Issues thru and by the constitutionally elected Assembly.
            As simple as that.Why cant you grasp that?
            If you are naive to the EPDP,read its Political Program…and stop acting like more Catholic than the Pope.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hope,
            It would be nice if you do not try to derail the debate with your rundown terms. Stick to the point and stop this Wayane this Weyane that. It just degrades the debate (and the Forum). It is sophomoric and jingoist.

          • Hope

            Sea Ustaz SGJ:
            Thanks for the advice and your golden is respected and accepted.
            here is the thing:
            If U and the Forum keep labeling us as PFDJ Trolls just for expressing our opinion,expect a double pay back with similar names and words/clauses like”TPLF Troll”,not just using the ugly “weyAne”…word legitimately.
            Equal Justice for ALL.
            Let us practice what we preach.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            I am very worried, brother Hope. I see you a little bit calm. Is there any hope the regime will reopen the clinics they have closed?

            Al-Arabi

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Hope,

            “Accept the Universal Facts and Truth Hope stated”. The same mentality goes on. The world says so-and-so, my masters say so-and-so, and my forefathers say, so-and-so. The mind is totally absent from the scene. Is there any dragger of your draggers unmentioned. If they pull you to hell you will simply be dragged. You are like a deaf in a wedding ceremony. You run wherever they direct you. Really, you are الأطرش في الزفة

            Al-Arabi

          • Hope

            Selam Mehandis:
            A) When a Constitution is implemented and a Constitutional Govt is in place
            You are putting the cart before the horse
            B)See above as they both go hand in hand!
            If Arabic belongs to or has to belong to Eritrea,it belongs to all Eritreans, not just Muslims.
            Who said that Arabic belongs to “them” only?
            My point is that we should prioritize things.
            Plus,my beef with the article is the unconstructive rhetoric and tone,which can be misunderstood by the sensitive segment of our society in general and by the Lunatic Fanatics in particular and can lead to polarization of the already polarized society (Refer to the exchange between Semere and SGJ and the provocative and polarizing comments by none but by some spoilers and detractors!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሆፕ

            ኣንታ ሆፕ ሽምካስ እምበር ‘ዩ ተስፋ
            መትሓዚ ስኢነልካ ከም ሃፋ
            ሓንሳብ ትመስል ደጋፊ ናይ ዓፋ
            ግምጥል ኢልካ ድማ ‘ታደግፍካ ናብ ቀታሊኡ ተዕርፋ
            መታን ክበርሃልካ
            ጠበቓ ዓዲ ሃሎ ኴንካ

            ንጸጋም ‘ተብልኩ ንስኻ ን የማን
            ምሉቕሉቕ ‘ኳ ኮይኑ ከምዞም ኣትማን
            ጎዲላ ‘ዶ ሓቀይ ቆፎ ናይ ምእማን

            ርግእ ‘ሞ በል ደጊጋ
            ክንሪኦ ሓቢርና ወሪዱ ዘሎ ኣብ ዕዳጋ

            ዝሽይጣ ንብረት ክልተ ‘የን
            ንሰን ድማ ዓረብን ትግርኛን

            ንስኻ ትደሊ ትግርኛ
            ኣነ ድማ ዝደሊ ዓረብኛ
            ስለዚ
            እንታይ’ ዩ ጸገምካ ክልቲአን እንተኾና?
            መታን ንዓይን ንዓኻን ከራኽባና
            ጓኖት መዓስ ይኮና

            ንዓ ደኣ ተመለስ
            ሕጂ ኣይተምጸኣለይ ናይ ኣብዪ ዋላ ናይ መለስ
            ጸገምና ክንፈትሕ ሓቢርና ንቃለስ
            ንስኻ ሕራይ ኣነ ኮይስ
            ሓቀይ ምሽ?

          • Hope

            Selam Mehandis:
            Holly molly!
            Can you read again my belated response to your questions?
            What the heck has Wedi Affa and his “ killer” to do with my specific answer to your specific question?

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ሰመረ

        መሰለይ ዝበለ እንታይ ኴንካ ትብሎ
        ጠምየ ንዝበለ ምሉእ ሽሻይ ኣሎ
        ቆሪረ ዓሪቐ
        ንዝበለ
        ከምኡ ስለዝበልካ ሓሪቐ

        ጽጋብ ኮይኑ መሬት እንታይከ ተሳእነ
        መልሲኹም ካብ ኮነ
        ከመይ ኢለየ ’ሞ ደኣ ከረደኣኩም ኣነ

        ካብ ውጹእ ሓሶት ምባል
        ኢልካ ንሰብ ምድሃል

        ተጋጊኻ ‘ዶ ምባል ኣይምሓሸን?
        መታን ክንብል ኢሂን ምሂን
        ክንረክብ ሶልሽን
        እዚ ደኣሞ ክብ ምንታይ’ዩ ዝፍለ
        ካበ ናይ ወዲ ኣደይ መድህን
        ዋእ! ካብዚ የድሕን

        ጠፋእና በለት ስላስ

        ኤርትራ ዓቢራ ተበልካዮም
        ኢትዮጵያስ ዕባራ ንድያ ኮይኑ ‘ቲ መልሶም
        ‘ት ሕቶ ኣይኮነን ብዛዕባ ኢትዮጲያ
        ንሕቶ ብካልእ ሕቶ ኣይትበለኒ መሊሰያ

        ናብ ቱርኪ ኣፍጋኒስታን
        ኢራን ዋላ ፓኪስታን
        ዋላ ተን ካልኦት Xስታን (X = many of them)

        ኮለል ኣይተብሉና
        ንሕና ዝበልና
        ቋንቋ ዓረብኛ
        ካልኣይ ቋንቋና
        ኔሩ’ዩ ቀደም ሕጅውን ይኹነልና

        እወ ሓቅኻ ንዓይ ዝረደኣኒ ትግርኛ
        ስለምንታይ ቋንቋይ ስለዝኾነ
        ግን ክፍርሕ ጀሚረ
        ትግርኛ ይትረፍ ከይትብሉና

        ዋእ! ንቐይረሉ ዘረባ
        ዝርጉም ሸይጣን ከይሰምዓና ‘ባ

        እሞ
        ራህዋ ቅሳነት ፍትሒ ክጥጥዐልና
        ሰላም ተቐበል
        ካብ መሃንድስ ምዕብልና

        • Semere Tesfai

          ሰላም መሃንድስ ምዕባለ

          ክንደይከ ‘ሰልጠልካ/ኪ ‘ትግጥሚ ሓወይ መዓረይ? ንሕና ‘ቲ ተራ ዘረባኳ ምስላጥ እንዳ-ኣበየናስ፡ ንስኻ ድማ ግጥሚ ከም ማይ ጃሕ-ጃሕ ፦)

          መሃንድስ – ኣብ’ዚ፡ ሓንቲ ነገር ጥራይ እየ ክትርደኣኒ ዝደልየካ። እዚ ኩሉ ዝዛረቦ ዘለኹ፡ ንመንግስቲ ህግደፍ ንምንኣድ ወይ ንመንግስቲ ህግደፍ ኣይትቃወሞ ንምባል ኣይኮነን። ንመንግቲ ተቓወሞ ከም ድላይካ፡ መሰልካ እዩ። ግን ንመንግስቲ ህግደፍ ክትቃወም ከለክኻ፡ ካብ ናይ ህግደፍ ዝበለጸን ዝማዕበለን ኣረኣእያን ኣተሓሳስባን ሒዝካ ተተቓወምካ ይሓይሽ፡፡

          እቲ ኣንጻር ህግደፍ ዝግበር ቃልሲ፡ ኣብ እዞም ካልኦት ዓሌት፡ እዞም ካልኦት ብሄር፡ እዞም ካልኦት ወገን፡ እዞም ካልኦት ሃይማኖት….. መጹ ከጥፍኡኹም፡ መጹ ክዕብልሉኹም፡ መጹ ካብ ሱርኩም ክነቕሉኹም…. እንዳ’ልካ፡ ኣብ ምፍርራሕን ምፍልላይን ዝተመስረተ ተቓውሞ ኣይኹን በሃላይ እየ። ምኽንያተ፡ ከምኡ ዓይነት ተቓዉሞን፡ ብኸምኡ ዓይነት ዝግበር ዉደባ-ተቓዉሞን፡ ንዓና ከም ህዝብን ከም ሃገርን ንረብሓና ኣይኮነን። ካልእ ኩሉ ከምድላይካ፡ ዎደሓንካ።

          ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሰመረ

            መጀመርታ የቐንየለይ!

            ከየንዋሕኩ:

            ሀ. ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምስልምና ዩ እምነቱ ኢና ንብል
            ለ. እዞም ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ድሌቶም ቋንቋ ዓረብ ‘ዩ
            ሐ. ኩሉ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብሰላምን ፍትሕን ክነብር ዝደሊ’ዩ

            እሞ ስለምንታይ ኢና ን 50% ህዝቢ መሰል የብልኩምን ክትሓቱ ንብል?
            እዚስ ፍትሒ’ዶ መስለካ?ኣነ ፍትሒ ኣይኮነን በሃላይ ‘የ። ንስኻ ‘ንታይ ትብል?

          • Thomas

            Selam Mehends,

            The only difference between what I wrote to Hameed and what you wrote above is the language used (Tigrigna written vs English written). However, the content of what we have to say is the same. I just wanted to let you know I was not trying to copy you:)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ቶማስ!

            ምቕዳሕ ንተኾይኑስ ኣነ ‘የ ከምዘላታ ግልብጥ ኣቢለይ ዝኸውን።
            ስለምንታይ ‘ሲ ኣብ ክላሳት ምቕዳሕ ናተይ ‘ያ ኔራ።
            ስለዝኾነ ‘ዩ ድማ ‘ዛ ኢንግልዝኛ ኣብያትኒ ትሪኣ ዘለኻ።
            ጽቡቕ ሰሉስ!

          • Thomas

            Selam Mehands,

            Ni bahaki mehends mi’ebale aka. You are way better than my league. Ni’bial Nitricc dia ketshkom delika ember. Please keep writing in tigrigna because I am enjoying your writings. We get empowered when it is told to us in Tigrigna than English. I just cannot tell why I am getting energized as I ready your tigrigna written. Ebolo e’u zebl!!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Thank you, Thomas!

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም መሃንድሻ፡

            11 ክፍሊ ከለና፡ ንስኻ ዲኻ ብድሕረይ ኮፍ ኢልካ “ሎሚ እንድሕሪ ዘይኣቕዲሕክኒ፡ ኩለን ኣስናንኪ ኣብ ኢድኪ ኣዕሚዀ ክሰደኪ’የ” እንበልካ ትፍክረለይ ዝነበርካ? 🙂 🙂 🙂

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሃይላት!
            ምስቲ ከምኡ ዝበለካ ‘የ ኮፍ ዝብል ኔረ።
            ናተይ ‘ሲ ብ በጃኻ/ኺ ጥራይ ‘ያ ኔራ። ካበይ ዝመጸ ቅልጽም!

          • Selamat MaEEbell Al Muahdiss MiEballe pi search

            for werrqaweet meTTenne
            bel keySemAAna
            it AAssoo Wedi medhnnn
            nebell nebula tsinnnn
            kinsiniE AAleba
            sarriett seraHH Setittt
            JOSHUA nayyy SENHIT.

            JOSHUA! the wind serfinn per

            tSAtSE

          • Semere Tesfai

            ለላም መሃንድስ ምዕባለ

            “ሀ. ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምስልምና ዩ እምነቱ ኢና ንብል
            ለ. እዞም ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ድሌቶም ቋንቋ ዓረብ ‘ዩ
            ሐ. ኩሉ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብሰላምን ፍትሕን ክነብር ዝደሊ’ዩ

            እሞ ስለምንታይ ኢና ን 50% ህዝቢ መሰል የብልኩምን ክትሓቱ ንብል?
            እዚስ ፍትሒ’ዶ መስለካ?ኣነ ፍትሒ ኣይኮነን በሃላይ ‘የ። ንስኻ ‘ንታይ ትብል?”

            ሀ. – ሓቂ ግርም ኣለኻ

            ለ. – ድልየት ኣስላም ቋንቋ ዓረብዩ ክንብል ከለና ‘ታይ ማለትና ኢና? (ሀ) ዓረብ፡ መተካእታ እተን ሾመንት ቋንቋታት ብሄራስትና ኮይኑ (ትግሪግኛ ገዲፍካ)፡ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ ክኸውን ኣለዎ ዲኻ ትብል ዘለኻ? (ለ) ወይሲ፡ ኣመንቲ ምስልምና ኣብ ገዘኦምን፡ኣብ መስጊዶምን፡ ኣብ እስላማዊ ቤት ትምህርቶምን፡ ቋንቋ ዓረብ ብነጻ ክጥቀሙ ክኽእሉ ኣለዎም ኢኻ ትብል ዘለኻ? እስከ ኣብራሃለይ።

            ሐ. – ግርም ኣለኻ፡ ኣነ ‘ውን ምሳኻ ‘ለኹ

            2. – መሰል ኣስላምን፡ ቋንቋ ዓረብ ዕላዊ ሃገራዊ ቋንቋ ምዃንን፡ እንታይ ዘተኣሳስር ኣለዎም? ሓንቲ ሃገር፡ ህዝባ፡ ፍርቂ ወይ ካብ ፍርቂ ንላዕሊ እንተደኣ ኣመንቲ ምስልምና ኮይኖም፡ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ‘ታ ሃገር ናይ ግድን ድዩ ዓረብ ክኸውን? ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ‘ታ ሃገር ዓረብ እንተዘይኮነ ኸ፡ መሰል ኣስላም ኣብ’ታ ሃገር ሕሉው ኣይኮነን ዶ የስምዕ እዩ?

            እንተዳኣ፡ መሰል ኣስላም፡ ምስ ዕላዊ ሃገራዊ ቋንቋ ዓረብ ምዃን ዝተኣሳሰረ እዩ ትብል ኣሊኻ ኾንካ፡ ትጋገ ኣለኻ። ዘተእሳስር የብሉን። ኣብ’ዛ ዓለም 1.2 ቢልዮን ኣስላም ኣለዉ። ካብዚኦም፡ 425 ሚሊዮን ጥራሕ ‘ዮም ዓረብ ከም ዕላዊ ሃገራዊ ቋንቋ ዝጥቀሙ – ሃገራት ኣዕራብ።

            ከመይ ‘ሉ እዩ፡ ኣባና ሓድሽ ዝኸውን?

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሰመረ
            ሕጂ ግርም። ንቀራረብ ዘለና ኮይኑ ተስሚዑኒ።
            ሓዘኒ በል

            ፍርቂ ህዝቢ አርትራ ክርስትያን ፍርቂ ድማ ኣስላም ካብ ኮነ: እሞ እቶም ኣስላም ንኩላትና ኣሕቢራ ትውክል ዓረብኛ መሪጽና ይብሉ ኣለዉ።
            ኖ ዓረብኛ ኣይውክሎኩምን ‘ዩ ስለዚ ወይ ትግራይት ወይ ድማ ሳሆ: ዓፋር: ወዘተረፈ ግበሩ ‘ምበር ካልኣ ኣይነፍቅድን ድዮም ክበሃሉ?

            ከምዚ ተኾይኑ: ክልተ ዓበይቲ ጸገማት ይረኣየኒ
            ሀ. መን ‘ዩ ዓዳሊ ናይ ሕጋዊ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ?
            ለ. ምርጫ ናይ ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምንፋግ ከመይ ጌሩ’ዩ ቅንዕና ዘለዎ

            ናብ ናይ ካልኦት ሃገራት ኣይንኺድ። ‘ተን ካል ኦት ሃገራት ምናልብሽ ዓረብኛ ምርጭኦም ኣይኮነን።
            ናትና ህዝቢ ግን ድሌቶም ‘ዩ። ደሓር ከኣ ‘ታ ዓረብኛ ንኩሎም ምስልምና ዝኽተሉ ኤርትራውያን ትጠምሮም ‘ያ።

            ወረ ክምስገኑ ዝግበኦም ‘ዩ። ንሕና ትግርኛ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ 9ተ ሃገራዊ ቋንቋታት ተዘይኮይኑ ኣይንቕበሎን ተዝብሉኸ?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም መሃንድሳይ,

            እቲ ዘገርም ናይዞም ክርስትያን ኣሕዋትና’ኮ ባዕላቶም ናይ መሰል ዓደልቲ ክኾኑ እዮም ዝደልዩ ዘለው:: እዞም ፍርቂ ሕብረተሰብና: ካብቲ ብሔራዊ ቋንቆኦም ዓረብኛ ይሕሸና እንተበሉ: ምርጮኦም ስለዝኾነ: ከም ጉዳይ መሰል ተራእዪ: ክኽበረሎም ዘለዎ ነገር እዩ:: ምድልዳል መሰል ባህርያዊ’ዩ: ብሰላም ክንበር እንድሕሪ ተደልዩ:: መሰሉ ዝተነፎጎ ክፍሊ ሕብረተሰብ ከአ ብዝመሰሎ ኣጋባብ ተቃሊሱ መሰሉ ከረጋግጽ ባህርያዊ:: መሰለይ ኢልናዶ ኣይኮናን ንሰላሳ ዓመት ዝተቃለስና? ከመይ ተገይሩ’ዩ እቲ ዝተኸፍለ መስዋእቲ ንመሰል ሕጂ ዝርሳዕ? መሰል ክበሃል ከሎ’ኮ ብኹሉ መልከዓቱን ሸነኻቱን እዩ:: ንመሰል እዚ ይግበኣካ እዚ ኣይግበኣካን ኣይበሃልን:: ኩሎም መሰላት ኣህዛብ ኣብ ሕብረተሰብኣዊ ውዕላት (social contract) አትዮም ብዘይነግ ፈረግ ክኽበሩ ዘለዎም ክብርታት እዮም:: ኩሎም ንመሰል ክፋል ህዝቦም ዝቃወሙ ከአ ናይ ጨቋኒ ኣእምሮ ዝውንኑ ምኻኖም ትስሕቶ አይመስለንን:: ንመሰል ዝነፍግ ‘ውልቀ’ ይኹን ‘ሓይሊ’ ካብ ንዕቀት ዝተበገሰ ስለዝኾነ ብቃልሲ ጥራይ እዩ ዝምከት::

            ምስ ኣኽብሮት

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Emma,
            You summarized it in a clear and concise way!
            Thank you.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ማሃንድሳይ,

            ካብ በዓል ሰመረ ወይውን ካብ ህግደፋውያን ንቃንዛ ውሽጦም አንቢቦምን ንቃላቶምን ዝርዳእ ክትረክብ ዘበት’ዩ:: ንኹሉ ሕቶታት’ኮ ብኣበይ ክበጽሑ እኮ እዮም ዝድምድምዎ:። እዛ ሓረግ’ዚኣ ኸአ ናይ ትምክሕተኛታት ከም ሙኻና ትስሕታ አይመስለንን:: እዚ ናቶም ኣቋም እንታይ የዘክረኒ ኣብ ባህርዳር ዝገበርናሉ ናይ ተማሃሮ ረብሻ እዋን’ዩ:: ግዚኡ ብክቡር ዘብዔኛ ተኸቢብናሉ ዝነበርና ግዝያት’ዩ:: እቲ ኮረኔል “ተኛ ስልህ መተኛት ተቀላቀል ስልህ መቀላቀል::” ሕጂ ከአ ህግደፋውያን በዓል ሰመረ ን ከምኡ ዝዓይነቱ ዝበልናዮ ትሰምዑ ዝበልናዮ ተተግብሩ እኮ እዮም ዝብሉና ዘለው:: ዘስደምም እዩ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ኤማ
            ‘ታ ነገር ተትግምጠል ኔራ ግን ክንደይ ድምጺ ምተሰምዐ ኔሩ።
            ት ርእሲ-ዓካት ናይ ኣግኣዝያን መራሒ የንብብ ተልዩ ኣፉ ስጋብ ዝጭደድ ይስሕቕ ኣሎ። ሃገር ናይ ትግርኛ ቋንቋ ትግርኛ ስለዝ ኣምን

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም መሃንድስ ምዕባለ

            “ፍርቂ ህዝቢ አርትራ ክርስትያን ፍርቂ ድማ ኣስላም ካብ ኮነ: እሞ እቶም ኣስላም ንኩላትና ኣሕቢራ ትውክል ዓረብኛ መሪጽና ይብሉ ኣለዉ።
            ኖ ዓረብኛ ኣይውክሎኩምን ‘ዩ ስለዚ ወይ ትግራይት ወይ ድማ ሳሆ: ዓፋር: ወዘተረፈ ግበሩ ‘ምበር ካልኣ ኣይነፍቅድን ድዮም ክበሃሉ?”

            ኣይፋል ኣይንብልን! ‘ታይ ክንረክብ ንዕምጽ? ‘ታይ ክንረክብ ድሌት ህዝቢ ንጉዕጽጽ?
            ድሌት ህዝቢ ‘ዩ እንዲኻ ትብልለኒ ዘለኻ። ግርም፡ ህዝቢ ይተሓተት። ብብዝሒ ድምጺ (by referendum) ይወሰን። ነቲ ተበጽሐ ውሳነ ድማ ይርሓሰና ኢልና ቆጽሊ ነምብረሉ። ‘ታይ ጸገም ኣለዎ? ሕራይዶ?

            ግን ትማሊ ኣይተወለድኩን፡፡ ኣብ ‘ዚ ጉዕዞ ‘ዚ – ክንደይ ዓቐብን ቁልቁልን፡ ክንደይ ጫካን በርኻን፡ ክንደይ ጸድፍን መስገደልን ርእየ እየ።

            ሓደ ነገር ከረጋግጸልካ፡ ጉዳይ ወግዓውነት ቋንቋ ዓረብ ኣብ ሂወት ኤርትራ፡ በቶም ደለይቱ፡ ህዝቢ ተሓቲቱ ብድሌት ህዝቢ ክውሰን ቅቡል ኣይኮነን – ‘ተዘይ ፈሊጥካ ክትፈልጥ።

            Have you heard the phrase ‘it is a settled issue’. That’s the card you use, when you know you don’t have the public support you claim to have. And I’ve heard that a million times. And you can bet your last penny, that is their next line of defense. Word!

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            መርሓባ ሰመረ
            ቀሪብና!

            ‘ታ ረፈረንደም ዝበልካያ ግን
            ሀ. ንትግርኛ ዶ ረፈርንደም ተጌሩ ‘ዩ ኢሉ ዝሓትት ሰብ ኣነ መልሲ የብለይን። ስለዚ ኣነ ብነብሰይ ኣይድግፋን
            ለ. ንኣበነት ደሓን ሕራይ ንገብር ‘ተሎም ግን ተሳተፍቲ ሓተቲ ጥራይ ዮም ክኾኑ ዝግበኦም። ፀይኮይኑ ከምቲ ኤርትራ ረፈርንደም ክትገብር ኮላ
            ኢትዮጵያውያን ብምልእታ ኢቲዮጵያ ክትገብር ኣለዋ ዝበኡም ዝሰሓቕናዮም ያ ክትከውን።

            ሕሰቦሞ ሰመረ
            ካላኣይ ቋንቋና ዓረብ ተኾይኑ: ንዓይን ንዓኻን ‘ታይ ይጎድለና?

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም መሃንድስ ምዕባለ

            1. – “ሀ. ንትግርኛ ዶ ረፈርንደም ተጌሩ ‘ዩ ኢሉ ዝሓትት ሰብ ኣነ መልሲ የብለይን። ስለዚ ኣነ ብነብሰይ ኣይድግፋን”

            ጸገም የለን፡፡ ንትግሪኛ’ውን ረፈርንደም ይገበረሉ ተተባሂሉ፡ ኣነ ጸገም የብለይን ረፈረንደም ንንቋንቋ ትግሪግና ተተገብረሉ፡፡ ንስኻ ‘ውን ከምኡ። ሓቀይ ዶ?

            2. – “ለ. ንኣበነት ደሓን ሕራይ ንገብር ‘ተይሎም (‘ቶ ኣስላም) – ግን ተሳተፍቲ (ረፈረንድም ዝገብሩ) ሓተቲ (ኣስላም) ጥራይ ዮም ክኾኑ ዝግበኦም – ከምቲ ኤርትራ ረፈርንደም ክትገብር ከላ፡ ኢትዮጵያውያን ብምልእታ ኢትዮጵያ ክትገብር ኣለዋ ምስ በሉ ዝሰሓቕናዮም ‘ያ ክትከውን።”

            ናይምንታይ ቅጫ!
            ስማዕ፡ ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ክልተ ነጻ ሃገራት እየን። መጻኢ ዕድል ኤርትራ ብኤርትራውያን – በስላምን ክርስትያንን – ብሓባር ክውሰን ረፈረንደም ተገሩ። ተገሩ ድማ ኣኤርትራ ልኡላዊት ሃገር ኮይና። መጻኢ ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ ክውሰን ድማ፡ ልክዕ ከም ግዜ ረፈረንደም፡ ብናይ ኤርትራውያን ሓባር ድምጺ ብልጫ ይውሰን። ኩሉ ሕጋጋት ኤርትራ ብድምጺ ኤርትራውያን ዶ ኣይኮነን ክውሰን?

            ምሽ፡ ቋንቋ ዓረብ ድሌት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ‘ዩ ክትብል ዊዒልካ? ከምይ ገርካ ደኣሞ ድሌት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ክትፈልጥ፡ ናይ ምሉእ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ድምጺ ከይሰማዕካ?

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ሰመረ
            I think my Tx and your Rx (and vice versa) frequencies are not in sync.
            ንትግርኛ ከደኣ ሞ መዓስ ኢና ረፈረንዱም ንገብረላ?
            መሰል ቋንቁኡ ዝተንፍጎ ሰብ ምስ ነፋጊኡ ብሓባር ኣድምጹኣይበሃልን። ዚኣ ደኣ ዘይቅንዕና።
            ደሓር ድማ ‘ታ ናይ መወዳእታ ሕቶይ ኣይመለስካያን
            “ካላኣይ ቋንቋና ዓረብ ተኾይኑ: ንዓይን ንዓኻን ‘ታይ ይጎድለና?”

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            1. – የቐንየለይ፡ ብኽብሪ ሃናጺ ኽትዕ ምሳይ ምክታዕካ። ዝኣኽለና ተኻቲዕነ ኢና ‘መስለኒ። ሕጂ፡ ፍርዲ፡ ንተዓዘብትን ኣንበብትን ንሕደጎ።

            ግን ንእግረ-መንገደይ ሕቶኻ ክምልስ ክፍትን እየ። መልሲ ግን ደሓን ኣይትሰከፍ

            2. – “ካላኣይ ቋንቋና ዓረብ ተኾይኑ: ንዓይን ንዓኻን ‘ታይ ይጎድለና?”

            ብቕንዕና ክነግረካ፡ ዋላ ሓንቲ።
            ሕጂ ክካታዓሉ፡ ግዜን ድልየትን የብለይን። ግን፡ ኣንፈት ክህበካ፡ በዘን ዝስዕባ ምኽንያት ‘የ ዓረብ ክም ዕላዊ ቋንቋ ኤርትራ ከገልግል ዘይድግፍ፡

            ሀ. – ንዓና ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ፡ ኣብ ናይ ደቅና ትምህርቲ ንግገብሮ ወፍሪ (investment)፡ ካብ ኣብ ዓረብን ትግሪኛን፡ ኣብ ቋንቋ እንግሊዝ ዘተኮረ እንተኾነ ይሓይሽ ዝብል ጽኑዕ እምነት ኣለኒ። ምኽንያተ፡ ማዕጾ መጻኢ ዓለምና፡ ምስ ምልከትን ብቕዓትን ቋንቋ እንግሊዝና ዝዕጾን ዝኽፈትን ስለዝኾነ።

            ለ. – ድኻ ኤርትራ፡ ብክልተ ማዕረ ዕላውያን ቋንቋታት ንደቃ ከተምህርን፡ መንግስታውን ሕጋውን ስራሓት ከተካይድን ዓቕሚ የብላን። ብኹሉ መለክዒታት እንተሪኢና፡ ኣመሪካ ሃብታም ሃገር ‘ያ። ግን፡ ንኣመሪካ ‘ውን ‘ተኾነ፡ ብዝሐ-ቋንቋታት ምእንጋድ ዘይጽወር ሰከም ‘ዩ፡ ኢሉ ‘ዩ Newt Gingrich in his book ‘To Renew America’ ዝካታዕ

            ሓ. – ሎሚ ኣብ ህንጸት ሃገር ኢና ዘለና። ኣብ’ዚ ጉዕዞ ‘ዚ፡ ንቋንቋታት ዓረብን፡ ኣምሓርኛን፡ ኦሮምኛን፡ ትግራይትን፡ ትግሪኛን…. ከም ዕለታዊ ናይ ንግድን ናይ ዋኒንን ንጥፈታትና መረዳድኢ እንዳተጠቀምና፡ እቲ ቀንዲ ኣተኩሮናን ወፍርናን ግን ኣብ ቋንቋ እንግሊዝ ‘ተኾነ ይሓይሽ ዝብል ጽኑዕ እምነት ኣለኒ። ምኽንያቱ፡ ድሕሪ 30-40 ዓመት፡ እዚ ሕጂ ንካትዓሉን ንነሃሃረሉን ዘለና ናይ ቋንቋ ሽግር ጠፊኡ፡ ነንሕድሕድናን፡ ምስ ኢትዮጵያውያንን፡ ምስ የዕራብን፡ ብዘይ ገለ ጸገም ብቋንቋ እንግሊዝ ዋኒንና ከነሳልጥ ክንክእል ኢና ዝብል ጽኑዕ እምነት ኣሎኒ። ብሓጺሩ፡ ትኹረት ወፍርና፡ ኣብ ቋንቋ እንግሊዝ ይኹን በሃላይ እየ።

            ሕጅ ‘ውን መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ፡ ደጊመ የቐንየለይ ኣኽቢርካ ዝተኻታዕካ ምሳይ ይብል። ሰናይ ለይቲ ንኹልና።

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ሰመረ’ታ እንግሊዝኛ ዝበልካያ ጽብቕቲ ኔራ: ግን ንሱ ወለዶታት ክወስድ ዩ።
            ስጋብ ኣብኡ ንበጽሕ ግን ፍርቂ ህዝቢ ተጸበዩ ክንብሎም መሰል የብላናን። ኣይንኽእልን ድማ። ነገር ተዘደሊና ማለት ‘ዩ።
            ሽም ይመርሕ ‘ንድዩ ሽምካ ናብ ግብሪ ኣውዕላ።

          • ኣማረች

            ሰላም መሃንድስ፡
            ዝተረትዐ ዘረባ ኣምጺእካ ካብትህውትትሲ፡ ኣብ መጻኢ፡ኣብ ከርከበትን ዓዲ ቐሺን ዝውሕዙ ተመሃሮን ኣውፈርትን (ዜጋታት ኣምሓራን ኣኦሮሞን) ነቲ ኣብኡ ዝቕመጥ ዜጋና ተረባሕቲ ሕብረቇንቖታት ክኾኑ ኢዮም ኢልና ተተዛረብካ ዶ ኣይሓይሽን?
            ትፈልጥ ዲኻ ብዙሓት እሕዋትና ተዛረብቲ ትግረ ቇንቁኦም ወግዓዊ ኮይኑ ክወጽእ ከምዝደልዩ? ትግረ ሓያል ኮይኑ ንኽወጽእ ጻዕርታት ዝገብሩ ዚጋታት መንግስትና ድጋፍ እንዳሃበ ኢይ። እቶም 50% ዝበልካዮም ምስ እዞም ክፋል ሕብረተሰብና ሓዊስካ ብኣብላጫ ድምጺ ትግረ ወግዓዊ ቇንቇ ኮይኑ ክዕወት ተኽእሎ ኣለዎ። በዚ ኢየ ኸኣ ኣብ ዝተረትዐ ሙግት ኣይትሃውትት ዝበልኩኻ። መቸም ኣብቲ ረፈረንደም 50% ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ጥራይ’ዩ ድምጹ ክህብ ዘለዎ ከይትብለኒ’ሞ ከይስሕቕ። ንመዘኻኸሪ ክኾነካ፡ ኢርትራ በቶም 100% ዝኾኑ ደቃ ኢያ ሓራ ወጺኣ’ሞ መካትዒ ነጥብኻ ኣጠቁ።

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Semere Tesfai,

            First I appreciate the poems of Muhandis for Development.

            Secondly, I think the justice seekers are struggling for all Eritreans to have equal citizenship. You are right, Mr. Semere, when you said the struggle should be with deeply rooted enlightenment. We should struggle with a very advanced vision. The vision that makes Eritrea stable and developed. We should all believe the abuse of a single Eritrean is the abuse of all Eritreans.

            Lofty ideas, the production of well-polished minds, that make great countries, great people, and great history. Emotions driven ideas, the production of rotten minds, bring devastation.

            Al-Arabi

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          ሰላም መሃንድሳይ,

          መሰል ንዘይፈልጡ መሰል አይሕተትን
          ፍትሒ ንዘይፈልጡ ፍትሒ አይልመንን
          ተዋዲቅካ ጥራይ’ኻ ህያው ትገብረን

          ብሓይሊ ዝገዝእ ብሓይሊ ተልዕሎ
          አብ መትከል ዘትከለ አለዎ ተኽእሎ
          ንሱ እኮ’ዩ ቲ’ናይ ቃልስና ውዕሎ

          ንቅሓት ብዘይተወፋይነት
          ቃልሲ ብዘይመስዋእትነት
          ዕጥቂ ብዘይመሪሕነት
          ፋይዳ የብሉን ብጀካ ከርተት

          • Hope

            Selam Aman:
            That was typical of the ELF that I knew.

  • Hope

    Hello All:
    Discamier:
    For whatever reason,am for Arabic Language,not coz it is more advanced language than Tigrinya but as a means of communication with the more than 400 Million people in the Middle East and N Africa and beyond…specially business wise.

    My take on “The Basics on the Arabic Language and the Land issue in Eritrea”:

    -These are constitutional issues and as such,let us leave it to the Constitution and the Constitutionally elected Assembly to decide.

    -The Arabic Language was settled in 1952 or so and it should considered a settled issue for now(as a “UNIFYING”Political Solution,not as a “Legitimate Right” or coz it was part of Eritrean culture and life).
    .
    -The fact of the matter(and the factual data) is that as the controversial late Ghirmay Yebio(RIP) of Winnipeg,Canada,correctly said it,more than 99.8% of Eritreans/Muslims in Eritrea use their original Mother Language in their households.
    As Thomas correctly said it,the EPLF Govt attempted even to enforce the Arabic Language in 1990s to be introduced as a Working Language thereby to make it a Co-Official Language of Eritrea but the students boycotted it. I was there, have seen that and have been there.

    This happened NOT only in Asmera but mainly in Keren.
    Thank you you Thomas for your patriotism a and teaching my kerenites for FREE.
    Note:
    Gen Nitric,please give a break to Thomas until you fulfill the National Service as Thomas did.

    Hence,the unnecessary divisive, sensational and historical analysis and argument on this issue as if the Arabic Language has been an inherently part of and parcel of the Eritrean Muslims’ life and that it should be the Official Language of Eritrea is but a fallacious Logic.
    It is a divisive ,untimely and an uncalled for rhetoric,to say the least.
    I am just amused as to why the editor has become obsessed with this Arabic thing in Eritrea when the hot issue has been about Justice.

    It was/is the same Editor,who advised us NOT to bring up this redundant issue as it has been dealt with many times in this forum.

    It is time to leave aside non urgent issues and get united and owe the Enough Movement exclusively as an Eritrean One to solve the Eri Problems with Eritreans Solutions through Eritreans and join the newly united Eri Party and expedite the past due change .

    Note:
    Am glad that,even though belatedly,SAAY has joined the Medrekh Group and other Progressives to work together based on his report about the Nairobi Meeting with that Group.

    The Breaking News the Gedeb News and the Editorial do NOT want you to know about:

    1)The EPDP and other three Eri Parties including the Medrekh f Dr Andeberhan et al became a UNITED Party.

    2)The TPLF has unleashed a dangerous,divisive and toxic propaganda against the Unity of Ethiopia thru the Social Media….and that per Dr AAA,,external forces(read TPLF) were involved in the Bahirdar and Addis Incidents(Coup).

    3)The LONE 5* Eri Gen,Gen Sibhat Efrem is back home in full health(yigberro)

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Hope

      “For whatever reason,am for Arabic Language,not coz it is more advanced language than Tigrinya but as a means of communication with the more than 400 Million people in the Middle East and N Africa and beyond…specially business wise.”

      Hope: This is the thing:

      1. – There is a difference between (a) advocating for the Arabic language to be Eritrea’s official language and (b) advocating for Arabic language to be used extensively/widely in the life of Eritrea as a nation – not just on the Islamic faith aspect of it. And I’m for the later.

      2. – Eritrea is a buffer state between to cultures and giant economies: Arab and Ethiopian/Abyssinian – close to 425 million Arabs to our north and close to 110 million Ethiopians to our south. And our objective should always be – Eritrea to play a positive role as an economic hub and as a cultural diffusion link between these two economic-giant trading partners..

      3. – In order Eritrea to enjoy stability and prosperity by playing a positive link between these to economic giants, fluency in the Arabic and Amharic languages is a must for Eritrea. Therefore, in order to play its proper role, it is a must for Eritrea to have the best Arabic and Amharic languages teaching higher education institutions that could produce enough professionals and academics in both languages.

      4. – As much as I love my Eritrean languages, our major investment on our children’s education should be laser focused on the mastery of the English language. Because, the future belongs to those who heavily invested in science, technology, engineering….. all using the mastery of the English language as a tool.

      Semere Tesfai

      • Hope

        Selam Vet Tesfai!
        As always,my Fav Cheguar Danga,positively!
        A Brilliant one!
        Thanks for reading my mind and expounding my initial logic…
        No one should disagree with your accurate and to the point analysis!
        Let me add this:
        Oromifaa /Oromugna and Swahili also should be taught in Eritrea for the same logic u alluded,specially Oromigna for obvious political and Economic reasons!
        Love your advanced and broad minded analysis !

      • ኣማረች

        ሰላም ሰመረ፡
        ፍልይ ዝበለ ግን ከኣ ምስ ቇናቇ ዝተኣሳሰር ዝሰማዕኩዎ ከካፍለካ፡ orormo and amharic languages studies ኣብ ሰለስቲኡ ዞባታት ኤርትራ ክኽፈት ምኻኑ ሰሚዐ። ጎድኒ ጎድኒ ድማ student exchange program እውን ከም መደብ ተታሒዙ ኣሎ። ደቂ መታሕት ኣምሓርኛ ከቀላጥፍዎ ኢዮም ሰናይ ዘበን ኢዩ። little oromia and little amhara kilil ኣብ ከባቢ ከርከበ፡ ዓዲ ቀሺ ክጥጥዓ ኢየን። ቇንቇታት ጎረባብትና ዓረብ፡ኣምሓርኛን ኦሮምኛን’ወን ማዕረ ማዕረ ኣቓልቦ ዝወሃበሉ ጊዜ እንዳመጸ ኢዩ ይብለካ። ኣምሓራ ኣምሓርኛ ዝበል ቃላት መንጾሮሮ ዝኾኖም እይሰኣኑን ኢዮም’ሞ መድሃኒ ምውሳድ ከይርሱዑ ይላወአቦም።

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Amarech,

          There was a person, let us call him Hameed, who continually was telling his friends that he is longing to drink much milk. In one Autumn season, his friends took him to a village named Ad Ganad. During the Autumn seasons, cows immigrate from Gash to Barka. This makes Barka full of milk in Autumn. At Ad Ganad, Hameed found his breakfast, lunch, and dinner all milk without any piece of bread. Four weeks passed without any change in his diet. Hameed bored from this condition, and cried his historic words, “ብረድ ዲብየ ሓሊብ ሓርጽ.” A rough translation, hot milk take your full revenge on me. From that day his words have become an adage in Tigre language.

          ኣጥብቆ ጠያቂ የናቱ ሞት ይረዳል No need Amarech to send us Amharic teachers, because Haile Sellasei had done that job for you. Really, he deserves the statue in AU center. The Tigre are ready to be driven to the sea. Isaias has paved the path to sea for you.

          Many peoples and rulers passed through Karkabet, however, Karkabet doesn’t move an inch from its location.

          Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Whether you drink cow’s milk or camel’s urine is irrelevant. I know that you are loud talk and no action. Shall I raise money for your one-way ticket to Asmara so that you can fight? Coward!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            ኩሉ ነገር ኣብ ግዝዩ ጥዑም ሙቁር:: Words are stronger than weapons. A matured human mind is stronger than an emotional and hates blinded mind. A caring human being is a million times better than a savage of the Medieval Age.

            You could find whether a person civilized or not with a simple litmus. You have just to examine his opinion towards a human being.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You rate yourself as mature, non-emotional, non-savage and civilized. Would you like to submit yourself for a professional psychiatrist assessment?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            To read the present accurately and have a vision of the future does not mean the target accomplished. Secondly, consciousness precedes acquirement.

            The difference between your comment and this comment explain where you are. I hope you realize where you are to move forward. Exploring yourself where it stands is the first step towards being a civilized person.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You said:

            “The difference between your comment and this comment explain where you are I hope you realize where you are to move forward. Exploring yourself where it stands is the first step towards being a civilized person.”

            Can you write in proper English, not a madrassa version?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            I am as Ernest Hemingway for you. How do we know a person is savage and uncivilized?

            If you get him that he supports outlaws, torture, hijacking, assassination, and cleansing. In that case, you should be sure that he is savage and uncivilized.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Hemingway? No way! It is likely to be the Stone Age project.

            “torture, hijacking, assassination, and cleansing” is your trademark. You have a lot in common with Isaias. Is your intention to outdo him?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            It is a good omen to see you missed your address. You are at a cross-road you don’t know where to go. As long as you draw your knowledge from a rotten pool, there is no hope of advancement for you. All the diseases you hold dear transferred to you from the contaminated culture, the culture of torture, abuse of innocents, injustices, cleansing, greediness, etc. you have imbibed and quenched your thirst from this rotten culture.

            By all measures, you are savage and uncivilized. Speaking colloquial English doesn’t make of you a civilized guy. You will continue your whole life a savage and Medieval Age man.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            It is an honour to be called a “savage” by an arch barbarian like you.

          • Selamat Simon Kaleab,

            I wonder if Ghadi picks up on this level of bigotry when he applauds your sadist support. His instruments are calibrated and are honed to pickup his other sensitivities. Is that because he holds a trump bump card.

            To Al Arabi non Euclidean geometry and Spatia or is the woman’s name Saptia or the spider …did you say conscience precedes acquirement or attainment?

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Selamat Hameed Al AArabi,

            Drebb dibbyya Halibb HartSE (nayy tSintSia HHaritSE

            ATTbiQuu TTeyyaQui Nattuu mottt yridaEE…

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

        • Hope

          Hahaha W/t Amarech or is it Bizunesh or Etienesh?
          Aside from your sarcasm,if the Eritrean Students boycotted learning their Second Working or “ Official” Language,Arabic,no sane Eritrean would sit for Amharic or oromugna for the sake of it and for the purpose u mentioned.
          Me and Semere brought the issue of Learning Amharic ,Oromugna and Swahili to be taught as International or Regional Languages in Universities and Language Institutions purely for business purpose so that Eritreans shall rule Africa and Middle East in general and the Horn of Africa in particular, which they have already done from business point of view:
          1)Top multi million Hotel and Real Estate Businesses are run by Eritreans in Nairobi

          2) Eritreans in Juba just completed a $ billion infrastructure in Juba and handed it to the S Sudan Govt besides building a very cheap but a lucrative Clean Energy Solar Power Plant

          3)Eritreans owe and run a multi million Transportation Business in East and S East Africa!

          This is not to mention that now that the spinal cord of the WeyAne is broken,the sky shall be the limit for Eritrean Business Community in Ethiopia in general and in Hawasa/Sidama Region and Oromia as well was in the Amhara Regions,where/when the old nostalgia shall be revived where Eritreans built the entire infrastructure of Ethiopia.

          Hope the new Ethiopian Govt shall acknowledge the constructive role of Eritreans in Ethiopia and will encourage them to do better legally and oervthe Law of the Land!

          Ethiopians know that Eritreans are one of the major sources of foreign currency in different ways .

          The Ethiopian Airlines is one of the top beneficiaries besides the Hotel and Tourism industries .

          Hence,Enforcing English and Arabic, and introducing Amharic,Oromifaa and Swahili Languages in Eritrea is but a necessity from business point of view !
          Thanks to the corrupt PFDJ Govt,the Eritrean Business Community is quietly developing its business opportunities in Ethiopia!

          Hope is heading to Oromia and Sidama Regions.

          The Eritreans will reciprocate graciously to/for the Ethiopian Business Community to do business in Eritrea !
          This is what we call mutual Economic Integration !

          Guad Abi,calm down,you owe us a $ 1000,000,000,000.00/A $ trillion !

  • Haile S.

    Selam Saleh and forumers,

    Saleh, in line with your attempts to render palatable the sour subjects in your recent chapters, you tried to walk in the narrow alley of sensibilities caressing everybody in the falling-direction of his hirsute hair. You got pricked with some hardy once up to loosing some drops of blood from your no-more crocodile skin. Well done! No matter what, it is a subject we cannot avoid talking. It is one of the fundamentals of the nation.
    After days of quite reading, I decided to say few words on your chapter today after reading our quartet (ሓ-ኤርትራ, E-Profile, E-Alhaditha & ኤ-ሓዳስ). Not that I understand Arabic or Tigrait, but something drove me to visually skim through the pages of these two papers as well. The announcement for the rare job openings, Eritrean airlines, Bisha & Zara that appear from time to time in ሓ-ኤርትራ & E-Profile. I just was curious how these are announced, and I looked in recent publications of E-Alhaditha & ኤ-ሓዳስ. At least judging by the visual absence of the logos of these three companies in the days I verified (days where they appeared in ሓ-ኤርትራ & E-Profile, the announcements don’t seem to be displayed in Alhaditha & ኤ-ሓዳስ. I apologize in advance if they are present in one form or another. If their absence is true, it certainly have much wider implication, but let me bounce from this, generalise and say (and please allow me to say) – It is the economy, stupid! (courtesy of J Carville) in addition to the nation’s foundation and the original constitution.

  • bardavidi

    Hi Johar, That was a great piece in history and the facts to go with it……….Arabic is the most Prominent of the Semitic languages and its spread wider than todays Mid-east into the Urdu and Turkic lands and pre-dates both Islam and Christianity as well……….A great language that was attached to Islamization in error by the Tewahdo Church and its Kings ………..Selah

  • Teodros Alem

    Eid Mubarak to Awate.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlan Ustaz Saleh,

    First of all Eid Mubarak and allow me to jot the following comment as an Eidiah. If I am mistaken, I request from you in advance forgiveness.

    I know you are a well-read person and questioning what you have written is a dangerous road. Anyhow, I will venture it and request from you to allow me to present my opinion on what you have said, “My language is Tigrinya, in addition to many layers of identities, I am a bonafide Habesha. Importantly, I am an Eritrean whose primary loyalty is to Eritrea.” In our contemporary world, in the maps of nations or among the members of the United Nations, there is no country by the name of Habesha available. In the olden times the entire Horn or the whole of East Africa was called Habesha, but today this country doesn’t exist. If you are speaking about layers of identities, why do you choose to stop at Habesha? You should go a little farther back and you will find yourself a Qureshi, Babylonian, Ashurian, Egyptian, etc. and if you are an evolutionist, Darwinian, your origin might be from the jungles of Amazon, Jungles of Asia or Jungles of Africa. “I am a bonafide Habesha importantly” implies to me you are sure that your evolution occurred in the old Habesha.

    Brother, you are an Eritrean and you should be proud of that only. No need to confuse our children and create them an identity crisis. It is good to stop هذه الدروشة

    Note: Please, don’t forget you blamed Agazians for going back, “But look at the Agazian, they are part of us, but feel their loyalty belongs elsewhere based on centuries old rivalries and even go back to the old testament.”

    Al-Arabi

    • Saleh Johar

      Aha, Hameed,
      Thank you for your decency in asking. But I am afraid we are far apart on this one. I do not believe people should have one-single identity because then the term diversity means nothing, for example. An identity can be any layer. Let’s take person A. He has a national identity, a political identity, a tribal identity, etc. However, all other sub national identities should not be over the national identity but should not be erased from our memory so that some children will not be confused. I am not confused though I carry many identities. That is why I said what you quoted me on, “Importantly, I am an Eritrean whose primary loyalty is to Eritrea.”

      There are living identities and antiquated identities that we cannot prove or are not present in our psyche. My Habesha identity is alive and kicking. That is why I eat Habesha food (not necessarily of all Eritrea) and my music is Habesha. But if I say I am Himerite of which I do not have any personally trait, it’s foolish. So, how can you compare the following two: if I say someone says I am the son of Suleiman because he is directly connected to his father or grandfather (recent). Now if the same person says I am the son of king ZuYezen? That could be true or false and cannot be proven therefore, centuries of disconnect and no psychological or cultural connection with ZuYezen. I was born a Habesha and raised as one besides the many identities that I carry.

      Free human beings are not one dimensional and only social engineers love to make people like a conveyor belt production with uni-dimensional identity. That is why I reject it. However, the way we manifest our identities should not be in an arrogant posture or based on nativism, or a tool for creating disarray. Remember Isais wants me to be named after the language I speak and I have never been identified that way–it reeks of social engineering (an evil one) and I reject it.

      Finally this: do you know how the African Americans rejected being called the N word? Okay, they flipped it and now they have owned it and use it the way they please. I understand the derogatory use of “Habeshi” particularly in the Arabian world. But it should be owned to counter the bad connotation and reject the social engineering. That is why I am Habeshi and respect all identities provided they are not manifestation of fascism. If I see a Habesha supremacist ( and I know a few) then I know how to deal with them.

      Hope I have explained myself adequately.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam SGJ & Hameed,

        Eid Mubarak to all of you:

        Hameed: Since identities evolve with time and space, there is nothing wrong to talk about some historically “negated identities” of the past such as “Agazian” and “Habesha” from a historical prospect. Then one can carry them as “recessive identity”with current “dominant identity”. If we have to oppose them, we have to oppose them on their lack of understanding to the evolvement of humanities and their identities that entails civilization and modernity. With the evolvement of identities, nations and nationalities do also evolve. Nothing can stop to this natural phenomenonal evolvements and changes of matters, things.

        Saleh: You are right that we are carriers of layers of identity. That is why we should make our argument contextual to avoid any diversions and misunderstanding. Your argument sound to allude that “National identity” is above all the identities that one could carry. If I understood right, then I will disagree with that premises. For me all the identities I am carrying them are equally important that are collectively defining me who I am.

        Regards

        • Saleh Johar

          Thanks Ammanuel,

          Thank you.

          I agree with you, just read my comment within the national context

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Al-Ustaz Hidrat,

          Yesterday, I wrote a comment in response to you; however, the comment disappeared due to a mistake from my side. There was no time to rewrite it again. Since it is Eid, I went with some friends to the suburbs of HOMMIB to grill a whole lamb on STONES. I am sorry for the delay that was out of my control and choice.

          I am scared too much, Ustaz Hidrat. We are not evolving though the world around us is evolving very quickly. We are still debating about issues our grandfathers and fathers settled. For about eighty years and we are motionless even to move a single step from ground zero. We are stock-still in the place where Haile Sellasei and the British left us – debating official languages and annexation – a vivid sign that we are not evolving. We are all exposed to extinction, Tigrinia and the rest. Tigrinia will never survive without the will and rights of the others.

          Al-Arabi

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Ustaz Saleh,

        In the books of history, the countries South of the Big Sahara once called Sudan; however, at present, the name Sudan confined to Sudan we know all know. For example, if a person from Nigeria claimed he is from Sudan, the Sudanese will consider him from their country, the same thing goes with Ethiopians who consider themselves as Habesha. This kind of allegation leads to confusion for many Eritreans and causes an avid hunger for Ethiopians to occupy, and annex Eritrea to them.

        If the alive and kicking identity you speak about is about clothing, INJERA, and language, thus all these commodities are imported from Sham, Afghan, Pakistan, and India. The INJERA we eat and the attire they were in Eritrea and Ethiopia found in Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, and Jordan. They call the INJERA in those regions LUHLUH.

        Historically, as you understand Ustaz Saleh, Habeshas and Africans were wearing SKIN and DUBA LEAVES. Therefore, when you said, ” My Habesha identity is alive and kicking.” do you mean by that the SKIN and DUBA LEAVE still active and kicking.

        Sometimes the Isaias TV airs dances of youth wearing skin as their culture. I hope you have watched that.

        Al-Arabi

        • Saleh Johar

          Hameed, please stop telling me the obvious. Religiously speaking, we can trace everything back to Adam and Eve so there is no surprise our sham or afghani origins or origin of what makes us who we are.
          If Indians want call themselves Habesha claiming they invented injera, I do not have a problem. By the way, what we call Dan Habesha, ejecting Tebab, is Indian and is called Jadipur but it evolved to be what it is now.

          I have known my Habeshi identity since birth. I feel affinity to bilal al habeshi more that any other sahabi.

          Until recent years some Eritreans were bare chested but that is natural human development. the fact that their ancestors wore skin and hides has no significance. It’s history. If ethiopians do not use Habesha as a clarion call for aggression they could find another reason. That is where my Eritrean identity supercedes all other layers.

          I don’t think you should worry about my habeshi identity as I do not worry about anyone who says he has an Arab identity, a beja identity or a Somali identity, etc. let them be.

          I oppose Isaias and his minions because they wish to impose on me an identity that’s not of my choice, by force. Any other imposition will naturally meet the same rejection.

          My Habesha identity should not bother anyone else—I also have another identity which I never talked about for many reasons. I believe we are all Eritreans with many layers of identities and we should learn to live with that.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Ustaz Saleh,

            A social science scholar says that stagnant environments have two destructive components that hinder them from change and development.

            1- We found our forefathers believe in it.
            2- Our masters and elders instructed to do that.

            If those forefathers and masters were wrong, are we still going to follow them? I guess we should get rid of these double identities and evolve to being Eritreans.

            The reality is that Habesha equals to Tigrai and Amhara. I guess it is good for Eritrean to get rid of claiming to be Tigraians and Amhara.

            Al-Arabi

          • Teodros Alem

            selam arabi
            Agaw, guraga, hareri, argoba, silte, orthodox Christian oromos and.so on consider themselves “habesha”, the difference is the level . example, if u take most orthodox Christian amaras ,out of so many identities, thier “habesha”, ethiopia and religious identities r the highest identity for them. If u take hareri, Islamic and hareri identities r the highest identities for them. That is the difference.

          • Saleh Johar

            Dear Hameed,
            You are expanding the topic infinitely, please tell me what bothers you when I said I am Habeshi, within context?

            As for what your science scholar said, I am sure another scholar (many) say the same about religion.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Ustaz Saleh,

            Nothing bothers or frighten me. You have full right to be what you want to be. I guess, you accept a different opinion.

            Al-Arabi

          • Saleh Johar

            Hameed, I do accept different opinion but I do not obey them. I think this should close the thread. Thank you

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Al-Ustaz Saleh,

            I think it is good to abide by the rules of the forum and salute people properly.

            When I guessed you accept different opinion, I mean, do you hear them or give them chance of contemplation?

            What bothers you in continuing the thread? It is just a chat. Take it very easy brother, besides don’t forget I requested from the beginning forgiveness. الخلاف لا يفسد في الود قضية Again Eid Mubarak wakulu A’m Waant Bakheir. I wish you a continuous kicking with the DUBA LEAVES.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            Small advice, your main focus should have been to stop the gradual and systematic complete destruction of Tigrey and other beautiful languages or ethinic cleaning of our beautiful national of different ethnic from Eritrea’s horizon. I give Amma H great credit for being kin on this. I strongly believe the Tigre land should be been left for the Tigre people to take care off. The regime should simply have budgeted the funding. However, our Tigre and other ethnic were made to learn tigrigna and you know how this was done and all. I also question why sawa was chosen for a military training and all. As I said worrying about what language should be official in Eritrea is secondary. First, we must protect our beautiful cultures and identities, then we can worry about importing or choosing official languages. For our people, it is their language and their culture that comes first.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Thomas,

            Thank you very much for your advice.

            Josef Stalin destroyed and transported the republics that composed the Soviet Union. However, after seventy years everything returned as it was before the seventy years. The generation who returned to their republics read the mass killing and transportation only in history books.

            Countries’ age is none comparable with individuals’ age. The people of Eritrea are uncompromising and will never kneel, and Isaias knows that very well. ቆልዓ ይጎዪ እምበር ኣይቅድምን

            Al-Arabi

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hameed,

          Why are you scared of past history that is already negated? If for some reasons was their identity at certain historical epoch, they could not change the current evolved identities of the societies, provided if it is welcomed by the great majority of our society. “Social identity” changes do not come by impositions, rather it is by their natural evolvements as a results of “influence and counter influence” of human race. And no single force can stop that natural dynamics. They can only slow it, its motion. And certainly, resistance against transformation and development does not diminish without a fight. The struggle of “opposites” is a “continuum” natural process. The winners are always on the side of transformation and developments to create modern civilized societies.

          regards

        • Natom Habom

          selam hameed
          its better the old way ,the we are arab wont work as you know ,in fact you should seek more deeper your origin , you will be surprised cause it have nothing to do with Eritrea .

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    Here is a fantastic news for Ethiopians and congrats is in order.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JxAmYyc7T-k

    • Haile S.

      Selam Paulos,

      Great & thank you for bringing Zekarias’s perfect exposé. I never stopped from thinking about it since I saw it yesterday. Ethiopia is getting multiples of the 2% our weirdo regime asks when one plans & wants to do something good for the country. Today’s important announcement from the regime was about its upcoming Expo Festival. A festival where the same thing has been exposed every year since the independence of the country. A festival where the sandaled tyrant self-congratulates and congratulates every year, children who make toy-helicopters with copper wires & motorized propellor thinking Eritreans acquired the necessary ability to make flying objects. We are at the summum of our oddities.
      Eritreans are reduced to festival-junkies who commemorates the emptying & dying country ፈስቲቫል ውዒልና፡ ክንስዕስዕ ኣምሲና, a kind of trance to satisfy the empty-envy (ቆለ) that is devouring many from inside.
      Thank you, Zekarias

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        Start ups, entrepreneurs including cottage industry in Shiro Meda are extending their blessing to Isaias for revamping the faltering Ethiopian economy. Not so much as a foreign leader but precisely because he is one of them and who has always stood for their interest at the expense of Kilil Eritrea. This is the twisted irony and a fate of a once promising nation but remaining wounded.

        In a true sense however, not long ago Feudal Ethiopia depended on the know how of Eritreans in the 1950s through the late 80s when their strong work ethic in tandem with their stellar expertise in Engendering, Medicine and other fields brought Ethiopia out into the world of modernity. Isaias the man who set out to destroy Eritreans reads a caption on a T shirt. How true!

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Haile and Dr. Paulos,

        Id Mubarak.

        Dr. Paulo shared an astute observation by Zekarias. Both of you have put flesh on the matter. It is one’s death or ordeal is another’s breda and comfort. Poor Eritrea’s slow retardation has been contributing to its neighbors’ prosperity (relatively) and wellbeing. It is not only Ethiopia, but Sudan also has been benefiting from remittances from Eritrean expatriates.

        • Paulos

          Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

          Id Mubarak,

          As you know, the two major World Wars were a detriment to Europe but it was a blessing particularly to US as it capitalized on the enormous human capital when experts on myriad fields left Europe and headed to America. And the nation has thus far reaped a dividend that has never been seen in history.

          Perhaps it is a bit overstretched to draw a comparison but still Eritrea with people of entrepreneurship, amazing work ethic and a genuine sense of nationalism could have made Eritrea the wonder of Africa and beyond but an enemy from with in is holding her hostage for a reason only known to the heavens.

        • Nitricc

          Greatings Ismail. I can understand the rush to judgement and to conclusion but experience is defined not with what happen to you but what you do with what happen to you. It is only yesterday Eritrean were robbed their wealth in Ethiopia. What has changed in Ethiopia that will protect Eritrean investment for Eritreans to invest their hard money in Ethiopia? The fact is today’s Ethiopia more dangerous than Ethiopia’s yesterday and for Eritreans the rush to invest if foolish. The Addis people are already complaining about Eritreans the rush to invest, the equations of the living standards in Addis has changed for the native Ethiopians to the point of unaffordable. There is no doubt the business savviness; they proved it in Yesterday’s Ethiopia, Uganda, Sudan, South Sudan and Angola but what they are doing in Ethiopia is not only a mistake but it is an ignorance and not learning from their past experience. The point is you don’t invest in a country where there is no peace and order. Ethiopia didn’t protect Tigryans investment let alone to guarantee a foreign investment of Eritreans. How many Ethiopians can distinguished between Eritreans and Tigryans? From where i see it, it is only about time, once again Eritreans getting robbed and left in the dust. It seems to me they failed to do the basics of business, studying the feasibility of doing business in Ethiopia. It is only the matter of time the”KEGNA” crowed to take over. So, i wouldn’t celebrate to this futaile business endeavors by Eritreans. But i understand the urge to take a jab at the Eritrean government. The old saying back in the street of Addis and appears to be true, that is, Eritrea only for Eritreans and Ethiopia for both. It doesn’t work that way.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            The issue at hand is not economics but something more dire than that. Ethiopians see Eritreans flocking to Addis en mass for family reunion and other personal reasons. The fundamental question Ethiopians asking is: Was it worth a fight for independence? To be more precise, it is worth a try for them to have Eritrea back to Ethiopia proper. It is a political argument to make a case for and economic gain as well.

          • Hi Nitricc,
            Now that the two major problems of the horn, tplf and pfdj/eprdf are no more acting from the center and they have been pushed to the periphery, don’t you think that things are going to be different this time in ethiopia and eritreans have no reason to worry anymore? The future of ethnic supremacists is a lost case and ethnic egos are going to deflate soon since tplf is gone, and much more, because there are many more ethiopians and foreign powers that want to see ethiopia around in the future, bigger than her enemies in number, don’t you think that investing in ethiopia is after all secure for eritreans? All roads in the horn of africa lead to the economic/political capital of the region, Addis Ababa and the big market of ethiopia is attractive, don’t you see the logic of investing in the country for long term benefit?
            What has eritrea to provide more than ethiopia for business? Much more insecure are investments in eritrea where the regime could confiscate at its whims, and where there is no law that protects one’s property. No ethiopian government of the future is going to bother you for the color of your eyes. Ethiopia of today is less dangerous to you than tplf dominated ethiopia. After all eritreans will invest in the center and not in the periphery; any investor will do that.
            FDI is continuing to flow into ethiopia despite all the rhetoric to the contrary, because the future remains bright. What is taking place in ethiopia at this time is the new adjustments for the future, and it is going to succeed. Many eritreans see that eritrea’s economy is tied to Ethiopia’s, and they want to be ahead of others in the new regional economic reality of the future.
            “Eritrea only for Eritreans and Ethiopia for both” belongs to the old past, meant to build eritrea at the expense of ethiopia, which tplf tried to do in practice and did not succeed. Here lies the root cause of the animosity between tplf and pfdj/eplf, who should benefit more from the spoils. Eal, ethiotelecom and many others will never be dominated and in the hands of eritreans and tplf anymore. Eritreans will have to swim in the vast ocean of the ethiopian society with no special advantages this time. If they succeed, so much the better for them. Old games and old modus operandi are dead. That is what ethiopians are fighting to day tooth and nail, no more domination of the political and economic life of ethiopia by one ethnic group. This is going to be the new reality and the new rule of the game. In addition, you have to know this fact; if you do not allow capital to flourish in the land, it is only natural that it will find another destination, and this other destination is ethiopia.
            If you people believe that eritreans have come again to save ethiopia, it shows that despite everything, you’re still riding your high horse and nothing else. Too much arrogance has always been the problem. A little bit of humility would have served the people much more.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Nitricc,
            Id Mubarak.

            I concur with you about the rush to invest. As the Arabs say,’capital is timid’. I think the Eritrean investor knows the risk of investing in questionable stability or security risk environments. My point
            in regard to comments of dear Dr. Paulos and Haile S. indicated to people who are travelling with hard currency to meet their loved ones (old mothers and fathers and close relatives) in Ethiopia instead of their own country. The same has been going on in Sudan. I know a family that fetched a mother of over 80 years of age all the way to Addis just to spend some time with her before she departs. You and me know why all this ordeal is happening. It could have been more gratifying family get-togethers had it been in Eritrea. Those stipends could have benefited small businesses in Eritrea.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            First the vidoe that paulos brought here doesn’t have a fact in it , it is a propaganda video trying to convince eritrean by using “the so called new looks of addis and economy”, take a look at the guy other videos.
            2nd, the minimum requirements to invest in ethiopia for none ethiopians is 200k dollar.
            3rd, to have a diaspora ID cards, ur parents has to be ethiopians dissident.
            4th, other than the refugees, most of eritreans who travels to ethiopia now days r considered tourists. most of them go there to spend a vacation time there.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            1st, the vidoe that paulos brought here doesn’t have a fact in it, it is a propaganda video to convince eritreans by using the so called ” new looks of addis(sheger) and economy.
            2nd, the minimum requirements to invest in ethiopia for none-ethiopians is 200k dollar.
            3rd, to have a.diaspora id cards, ur parents has to be ethiopians dissident.
            4th, other than the refugees, almost all eritreans who travels to ethiopia considered tourists, most of them go there to spend thier vacation time there.

          • Hope

            Nitrikay:
            As usual,u make tons of sense but no worries as Eritreans have learned hard lessons in the hardest way!
            Eritreans are not alone in investing in Ethiopia!
            The Chinese and the Indians have LOOTED Ethiopia, not to mention what the corrupted Weyenti did to Ethiopia.
            Guaranteed that Eritreans shall succeed well without looting or hurting Ethiopians!
            The Addis rental and housing problem is temporary and Eritreans can solve it very easily as they have done it in Nairobi and Juba!
            Think positively!

            What better opportunities do Eritreans have other than investing in their “ Second home/Country” if the Lunatic Despot denied them any right to do business in their sweet home?
            Am for it and u r welcome to join me!
            My advice to Ethiopians:
            U better WELCOME the hard working Eritreans and their know how and Genius mind and treat them better than the. Honest,Indians and other Africans!
            The Ethiopians and their Leadership should learn from the mistakes committed by the denkoro Janhoy and brutal Col Menghistu!

            Here is what the smart Dr AAA correctly said:

            “ Eritrawianin be fikir biccha new yeminashenifachew”!

            “We can ONLY win the heart of Eritreans by none but through unconditional love”!

            What an Angeline and Godly advice and message!

    • Hope

      Selam Dottore:
      Just an FYI:
      This has been routine for Eritreans since the Janhoy,Derghi and TPLF Eras and in fact,expect more EXTRAVAGANZA and more so,business wise,by Eritreans in Ethiopia!

  • Blink

    Dear all

    First agazins ( idiots ) importance to such issue is simply wiping the floor and painting it with your favorite color , agazians are not Eritreans and they do not have any base support in Eritrea , and Eritreans outside Eritrea what so ever from any other that cares about Eritrea .

    Yohannes the Tigrian plus his Alula , well come on , Abyssinia is not around unless how can the Arabs , Somalis and Ottman forces be forgotten in the history of our region ? In this article there is no single point that shows Arabic heritage or knowledge that interests the next generation of Eritreans to choose and dump their mother language and ride with Arabic, everything written here as history is wide open to anyone interested, you can read about Yohannes,and so do about earlier settlers of massawa , the headings as well as the down drip drip has no coherent explanations ,none. It is simply an old ploy that get tired and its tire becomes non existent. The fact that some people refer historical evidence that doesn’t account for the next generation shows how isolated their idea is.

    Arabic is important because it is the language of Choice to communicate with large population around Eritrea and their neighbours, Now it becomes like a religion litmus thing for some to play politics which is sad.
    The argument should be made from the value that Arabic can offer to our people get for and to their developmental stages yet this article jumped over different centuries and pitched the importance of Arabic as opposition to Agazians and yes Yohannes thing which is by the way irrelevant leaving if you leave the left handed man who come to use power which was collected from different parts of the world ( Somali , Ottman and the Arabs ) aided him to put the large part of the Old Abyssinia in to his control ? Was he giving flowers to these people who didn’t convert to Islam ? No certainly not as all religion because that is not the characteristics of any religion expansion.

    Arabic is important to Eritreans even without its heritage or knowledge thing . Knowledge and languages are all becoming separate as the world is not ruled by Catholics of the 16tj centuries ( you remember copying and printing was held as top secret of Catholic Church simply to hold their society as ignorant as possible. There is no a single language that can be only way for you to acquire knowledge ,as the global connection is even giving space to emojis Arabic doesn’t need hearsay about heritage or knowledge which is by the way near to zero .

    I agree many small languages are dying and even the big once are eating each other too but to push unbalanced historical events becomes a selecting issue and that is a mistake to play politics using agazians and Yohannes which are both far away from Eritrea.

    The notion Arabic has knowledge importance is simply an old ploy and it can not be used to push people away from their mother language.
    The history thing though !!! Was Yohannes fighting alone ? With whome was he fighting? Did Eritreans became Muslims by the grace of the religion that god landed on their bed while the sun was on its way to shine , it was not .
    I mean wasn’t it by force and killings ? I mean when did the religious folk become so nice like Mormons of our generation who knock your door from January to November non stop until they leave their mark on your ring door? Muslims and Christians both religion exercised killings and torture as a way of aiding their followers. SG left many historical events in our region and especially in Eritrea, either purposefully or may be he thinks he is the only tree moving around so that his leaves go all over due to its structural beauty that people don’t sweeps them ? I don’t know to be frank but I don’t expect him to spoon feed all but some balanced storyline would make it look ok for some lousy game players .

    Arabic as a language must stand on its purpose and show its importance based on its contribution for the well-being of Eritreans not for the lousy falsely described heritage and knowledge. Arabic has no knowledge based importance even in Doha and Dubai , their research laboratory are crowded by many westerners who don’t even try greetings in Arabic , they all are operating in English and if English doesn’t work its way they know China main land language will land in containers , so pls advocate for good side of Arabic don’t use fringe views of Sigir mereb lunatics.

    I think it is simply important to right such article without going to knowledge or heritage and with that historical events mish mashing .Arabic is Eritrean language wether anyone supported it or not and it does not need such paintings, it will stand on its own .

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Blink,

      You are right when you said, “Arabic will stand on its own.” Those who expose their hatred to the Arabic language are simply wasting their time. At present, the Arabic language is deeply rooted among Muslims and Christians than it was in the forties and fifties of the last century.

      Today, we have famous Eritrean novelists in the Arab world and many of these novels are translated into many languages. Some of these novels also entered universities in Europe and America. Today, Eritreans are not just consumers that have been written in Arabic, but they have become producers and are moving fast. Some of the novels have acquired prizes in the Arab world.

      Our debate with our compatriots in Eritrea about the Arabic language is just to assist them not waste their time in an issue far from their control. Arabic was and will remain in Eritrea; nothing will remove it.

      Al-Arabi

      • Blink

        Dear Hameed
        I am just wondering who are these who oppose a language? Do they have any importance in Eritrea ? Many questions are hanging over the aim of the article and I simply find it elusive to get in and ink more valuable information. If there are people who oppose the language for reasonable reasons I think there should be a proper consensus to address the issue but to bring lunatics in order to educate them is also a reason to create cracks and that crack can go out of control without the majority of Eritreans even open their mouth .

    • Saleh Johar

      Blink dear,
      Thanks for the eloquent rejoinder. Did you write it in a library? It’s impressive.

      Let me whisper this to you: your rejoinder is as long as mine and if I ask you to cover everything in that comment, I would be considered foolish. I am not calling you foolish, but if you were expecting me to cover about 1000 year history in a limited episode, I might 🙂

      My intention, and I say it here again, is to provoke people to go deeper on their own. To research, to learn and satire at a conclusion. My presentation is a sort of bullet points that the curious (and the honest) will take and run with. So, judging from your rejoinder, I doubt you didn’t realize that. But your idea is to… you know what you want to do! Cheers

      • Blink

        Dear SG
        Well I have no idea why should you even care to bring losers in this . Who are these who stand against Arabic and must be helped by educating them ? There is no one who can give and take a thing while fighting Issias , I find your reasoning elusive for my foolish and humble understanding. should it be the priority . Who are these you trying to provoke ? What is their importance . I mean were not you giving opinion about sinit in one meeting or conference lead by by people like sengal ?

        I expect you help them either be a political organization which we have by bandles or You show us their high score or low score points in the so called Transitional government document. I mean who the heck care what agazians say ?

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Blink,

      There is nothing wrong in writing about ones history and heritage in relation to language. To know where you are going, it is good to know where you are coming from.

      Now, to the main topic. The benefits of using Arabic as an official language in Eritrea is minimal. Clearly, Arabic is not the language of Science, Technology and commerce in the world as it used to be at some point during the Caliphate era.

      Scientific ideas could not take deep root in Arab Islamic society because of the authoritarian and intimidating nature of the religion. The society could not sustain the few bright and brave individuals thereby diminishing the continuity of their ideas. In the West, there was a similar struggle but with the opposite outcome. The Church became sidelined- the REFORMATION happened.

      • Blink

        Dear Simon
        I agree with the points you stated about ME intellectuals lose to hard religious lunatics and it is not only a lose to Arabs, it is also a lose to humans and their wellbeing. Almost all ME intellectuals gave up their home land to dictators of Islamic schools and served the west and continue to serve the west even at this age . It is extremely hard to separate Muslims daily state affairs from Islam and I think it is sad and evil that many brilliant people lost their dream due to the political Islam but I don’t know if your views about Arabic language is small or simply irrelevant. Remember there are people who are the same as agazians who dream the beja state dream to the difference is they are not getting paid to do that .

        I believe Arabic is a good medium for Eritreans and if it is not the case why the cry for it and against it ? I don’t know .

        You are right the western civilisation is helped by the separation of religion from state and I think Islamic world will reach on that level may be after 50 years . You know the Ottman empire as well as new Turkey benefited by the separation of religion from state and I believe Mustafa Kemal Atatürk brilliance was mainly based on his understanding in separating the two ( state and religion) and also he defended Turkey from the cave mentality of that time Arab leaders , He allowed Ottman greats to prosper while the Arab leaders gave in to the lunatics of Islamic so called scholars .

        • Saleh Johar

          Blink,
          There is no one who suffered more from the Islamist fanatic politics that Muslims themselves. Political Islam is as dangerous and as lethal as anything you can imagine. But language should be seen from a different perspective and not religion (definitely not from the extremist type of religion). It’s a disservice to all of us to jump into mixing religion when language is discussed. It’s an insult.

        • Brhan

          Hi Blink,
          “It is extremely hard to separate Muslims daily state affairs from Islam”
          You must be Vasco Da Gama!

          • Blink

            Dear Brhan
            That is fact not even truth. It is a simple fact . Go to Pakistan , malessia , Turkey, Tunisia, Egypt , Sudan and any other Muslim majority state . The state and the religion is a interconnected. Mention any semi democratic Muslim majority state and you will know my comment is fact .

            The only thing that I misstepped in my comment was mixing language and religion and that is a mistake SG correct me .

          • Saleh Johar

            Blink,
            Sudan had the biggest Communist party outside the USSR and China. That for a country like Sudan is unthinkable in the last three decades.

            Dictators use Islam as a political platform and compete for power. In any country with low literacy rate, they win hands down. And that’s why you have religion having influence in governments. Do you really think Numeiri cared about Islam, or al Bashir if it didn’t provide them an opportunity to control the people! So, since all religions are the same as far as their influence on believers are concerned, they become lethal tools where literacy is low. But then, if Italy and Germany can have liberal Christian parties, why can’t turkey have one? In short it is not that simple.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Ustaz Saleh,

            Dictators have no religion. They utilize anything that serves their interests. Most famous and worst dictators in history didn’t embrace Islam. Therefore, it is unwise to portray Islam as a religion of dictatorship and Muslims are dump followers of their leaders.

            I list here below some of the famous dictators outside the Muslim World:

            Adolif Hitler, Joseph Stalim, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong-i, Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong-un, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, Ferdinand Marcos, Ho Chi Minh, Augusto Pinochet, Mengistu Haile Maria, Slobodan Miloseviche, etc.

            Al-Arabi

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hameed,
            You are right but the context is our region and I think that is why I limited to the familiar examples. I cannot make an exhaustive lots of dictators but he is focusing on Muslim dictators and thus my brief reply.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Ustaz Saleh,

            Al-Bashier was far from the teachings of Islam. For twenty years, of course, for those who followed him closely, they could recognize that he was running after Europe and America to get their blessings. However, they refused to accept his repentance, on the contrary, they were working closely with Sudanese opposition and their friends in the region to remove him. There are many dictators in the region with whom Europe and America work closely. Westerns do not fight dictators nonetheless. they fight those who refuse to be under their control and protect the interests of their nations.

            For example, Isaias and Bashar Al-Asad serve the interests of Israel; therefore, they are accepted dictators by the Western governments. The Syrian fighters and Eritrean opposition do not serve the interests of Westerns, thus they don’t get any assistance from them. The problem in the region is not Islam or Christianity, but the greediness of those who own power.

            Al-Arabi

          • Blink

            Dear SG
            Again you brought a good reason like illiteracy but how can illiteracy go down if the society get robbed their great intellectual sons and daughters? I am not arguing about dictators or communists, what I am saying is the state laws and rules are linked to their religion. The direct link between the religion and state laws are linked and interconnected .

            Dictators and their workers , well
            Why would the dictators and corrupt government officials care about religion and ordinary people while they can employ most religious leaders and their lunatics to work for them ? I mean does it matter wether they care about religion or not , I really don’t believe the ME dictators believe in religion or cared to do so one minute but the religion is their hiding places and we shouldn’t really try to give any reasoning to the open fact , fact that really we should challenge to make it right.

            1.Al Arabi forgot Issias in his list of non muslim dictators, what a shame .

            2.Brhan found one country Senegal in his defence .

            3. Facts are Facts while Truth can be twisted in which people can say and choose their truth from others .

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Blink,

            I didn’t forget Isaias, but I don’t want to put him with those great dictators. It is a great celebrity for him to find himself among them. Don’t forget Mr. Blink that he is a kid under the auspices of little dictators. He doesn’t have a unique identity. He is just a commonplace and coward Shiftah, a little rat.

            I have dropped him from the list of the great dictators intentionally.

            Al-Arabi

          • Brhan

            Dear Blink,

            I do not know I thought you know Vasco Da Gama. He was visiting one country at a time. That is why I gave you Senegal. Have you visited it yet. But if you are a Jinni who can visit multiple countries at a time then I ask you to revisit , one of the Asian tigers, Turkey (heading to EU) , Saudi Arabia who recently invited Nicki Minaj…

            But …you now revealed that you are talking about “Dictators and their workers”
            Well the globe has many dictators of many faiths and the pattern I see always that you are targeting Muslims and Islam and this shows, racism and hate.

            I have good discussions many participants except, you , due to your your continuous racial comments against Muslims and Islam and this should be flagged by the moderator.

          • Blink

            Dear Brhan
            I thought we have settled this you keep bringing hate and racism, does it appear to you that someone may be caring more than you to the people? Does it occur to you that we are only discussing the religion and political structure of a state , every fact is a hate for you, if you feel that your personal feelings are being harmed you always wanted to wield the hate , insult and phobia thing , sad but you should at least listen and listen Brhan you don’t really mean it ? I mean how can you be so sensitive to even claim and support democracy.

            Flagged and then what suddenly the facts go away with misery in them a grinding teeth of open scenario. Listen what I am saying is the people are being chained with religious hard liners of political views spooned with a hand of dictators to mix both . Saudi ? What’s wrong with you ? I mean with due respect sir , is this a shock news or you wanted to bann me from this for the sake of keeping the truth in the most secret corner ?

            I am talking about real life happening now at the moment and you come up with Saudi , it shows how much you really mean it . I stand my ground with what I have stated sir , religion and state laws are interconnected in the Muslim majority states , challenge me and I will be happy to start with Saudi , ni more emotional breakdown on this issue.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Brhan,

            Are you awake? Erdogan is taking Turkey in the opposite direction.

            Joining the EU? You cannot be serious. The EU countries avoid Turkey like a plague.

          • Brhan

            Selam Simon,
            Let hate do not make you blind not to see that in politics nothing remain the same and stalled files can be opened.
            Awate.com is also about R E C O N C I L E.
            I can’t baby sit and teach you the above fact again and again.
            The choice is yours.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Brhan,

            It is not my opinion, I just stated the facts.

            Either you hate accepting facts or you can’t grasp plain English.

          • Brhan

            Dear Blink,
            It is good that Saleh Johar corrected you. The topic has been about official languages.
            And do not worry you won’t misstep again if you stop from stereotyping.
            Did your ship dock at Senegal?
            Have a nice weekend?

      • Saleh Johar

        Simon,
        ‘Have you considered the fact that what you consider “minimal” many of your compatriots may consider “maximal”? Just get out of your comfort zone and think about what other Eritreans feel. Once you do that, I believe you will get the answer

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Saleh G.,

          i understand how you feel. You may be looking at it from the cultural and religious point of view. But I have in mind modern science, technology and commerce.

          Don’t get me wrong, Arabic is a beautiful language intimately related to our own languages.

          • Saleh Johar

            Thanks Simon,
            I do not look at it from the religious angle in alienation of its overall national implications. Not at all. I look at religion itself mainly, as an identity and all the luggage that the identity carries is a manifestation of the political aspiration and advancement of a citizen’s right–including heritage, intellectual space, and other social aspects. Please try to see it from that angle and you will understand my point.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Saleh Johar

            1. – “Why is Arabic so much resisted by some people and why are most of them Tigrinya speakers, and Christians? To them, Arabic is perceived as a religious language.”

            Few points here:

            A. – How do you know Arabic is “so much resisted by Tigrigna speakers, and Christians”? I bet you can’t prove your claim! You’re just playing divisive political fiddle to appease and incite your narrow constituents.

            B. – Saleh: You’re no closer to the Arabic culture and language more than I am. No Eritrean Muslim has more cultural connection/attachment to the Arabic culture and language more than his/her Christian counterpart. None whatsoever. Deal with it!

            C. – One doesn’t have to be a Muslim to stand for an Arabic language. And by the same token, one doesn’t have to be a Christian to stand against Arabic language. Muslims are for Arabic language but most people who oppose arabic language are Tigrigna Christians is a divisive bogus claim.

            D. – There is no relation between the Islamic faith and Arabic language as a national/working language. Eritrea doesn’t have to have Arabic as its National/working language to protect the rights of Eritrean Muslims. It is not either or. Eritrean Muslim rights could be protected without.

            E. – Somalia, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia ………. haven’t made Arabic as their national/working language. But they are no less Muslims compared to other Arab speaking nations. What makes you think, Eritrea needs Arabic language more than these Muslim majority countries?

            The point: Whatever you do, please don’t tell us ‘we Eritrean Muslims have a special relation to the Arabic language and culture more than our Christian brothers’. Because you don’t speak for Eritrean Muslims and they don’t.

            2. – “”Look at the Agazian, they are part of us, but feel their loyalty belongs elsewhere based on centuries old rivalries and even go back to the old testament. They do not mind wiping out entire groups of Eritreans (Muslims) just like that. So, this is the context of the hate and prejudice against Arabic which is basically driven by bigotry against Muslims.”

            A. – Is any Eritrean who oppose the Arabic language as a national/working language of Eritrea, an AgAzian and a bigot? Why? Could opposing the Arabic language as Eritrea’s national/working language construed as “hate and prejudice against Eritrean Muslims” ? Why?

            B. – Do you believe, for an Eritrean to be a true Eritrean (without being a bigot or AgAzian) s/he has to accept Arabic as Eritrea’s national/official language as a litmus test? Why?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Brhan

            Hello Semere,
            One of our forum participant thinks that the following is a simple answer in the debate and I am encouraged to post it again as my input ,
            Before that I would like to emphasize that the issue of official languages is different from national / working languages
            1) the word official is related to officials as simple as that …the official in Massawa port will deal with Eritreans coming from the east , west, south and north. Poor person if he or she doesn’t know the languages of all the people who come from all these directions. Lucky if the person does and he or she can be rare as diamond of these days
            2) But if this person and the people of all directions have a guide in what language they are going to communicate, then kulu temam or hiji grim or now all is fine
            3) that guide…! how do we find it? = MECHANISM a) from the sky? b) from our elected officials of different parties who will come with majority vote ( act passed by legislative body) c) asking our people ( referendum)
            That guide is the constitution. Institutionalization
            We are not telling all Eritreans to know our official languages but our officials. So if you are thinking to run for a president of Eritrea , you better start the home work right when you finish my comment
            Enjoy the weekend

          • Saleh Johar

            Semere,
            This where you shine Habal ketbleki….it’s yiur territory my dear. As for the rest of your rant, it shows you have not listened to what I said but took the comfortable sentences and boom. It’s feather weight. If you want a sample, look at the comments. No, look at the behavior of your likes, the closet ethnocentrics going back decades. It’s the same rhetoric. If you want to tell me the hate blurts are independent of bigotry, it’s dishonest. My friend, I have been at the receiving end for a long time and I know how it feels. If you said exactly what I said, the bigoted flock would have praised you. C’mon, we cannot sustain a nation while sweeping such flaws under the rug. I presented my views very carefully, making disclaimers just in case. And you think this is the old punching bag! Brace for it. Bigots will be called out. Long live genuine Eritreans who care for their country, not ethnic supremacy. You are a supremacist Semere and I have known you enough. You have damaged the country enough with you narrow mentality.

            No: dear readers, I apologize for this tasteless comment, but such characters should be dealt with their own venom.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Semere Tesfai,

            I want to answer your question, “What makes you think, Eritrea needs the Arabic language as its national language more than those Muslim majority countries?: This is an old rotten question it is not a fresh question.

            Look, Mr. Semere, Eritrean Muslims know the Arabic language. They are not clueless like the nationalities you take as a sample to defend your rotten logic. It is illogical to deprive Eritreans of their Arabic language and change them to those who are far from the Arab world. This is a crime on the rights of the Eritrean Muslims. I am confident you will never succeed, and you will pass away like Haile Sellasei who passed away without success. You are fighting an issue much much bigger and deeply rooted than your little mind conceives.

            FYI: The Muslim countries you mentioned in your comment are learning Arabic at present. Secondly, you have to understand a Muslim Prays in Arabic, not in any other language like the rest of the religions. For example, wherever you go you will hear the prayer call “Allah Akbar” in Arabic without the translation of it in any other language. The same goes with the five times prayers. Ask any Muslim with which language does he pray and he will answer you with Arabic. Please, don’t fume ignorance. Really, you are a shame to your country and people.

            Al-Arabi

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Selam Saleh,
    Thank you for the story lesson. We expected to hear from you some history related to Arabic language and Eritrea. But what we got was just stories, assumptions, claims and counter claims. You tried justifications after justifications to impose Arabic language on us. You missed the opportunity to convince the audience why Arabic language should be a second language in Eritrea. Again, remember: To be Muslim it doesn’t mean to be Arab.
    You told us that Tigrigna is not an intellectual language but Arabic is, hmm. Tigrigna is not only our language. It is our identity, it is our culture, tradition and much more. As a second language, we teach our our kids English (the language of science, business and
    technology). To have Arabic as a second language in Eritrea means taking the country two steps backward and one step forward.The weird thing is that the Jeberti are the most obsessed with the Arabic language. Historically Jeberti are not native Eritreans. They arrived tto Eritrea recently from Tigray and somehow they managed to integrate within the Eritrean societies. Now the Jberti are the front runners and advocates for Arabic as a national language. Please don’t expect that an highlander Eritrean farmer to speak Arabic only for the sake of Jeberti.Tigrigna will remain the first language. As a second language I would prefer to have Tigre. Since Tigre is Eritrean.
    Thank you!
    Hawaz

    • Saleh Johar

      Hawaz,
      I made it clear I am not concerned about your choice. I am telling you that half of Eritrea’s story. That is because you just assume and never study the demands of your compatriots. You expect them to be alms takers and they will not accept it. That is what I am saying, you can believe me or disbelieve me, it’s your choice. But to append unnecessary issues of groups is too cheap and it proves that a fanatic is always a fanatic–all you need is a little scratch and the true nature is exposed. Your statements that “Jeberti are not native Eritreans..” says a lot about your prejudice and bigotry. Study history properly and you will discover the run down nativist, fascist rhetoric has no legs to stand on. Kindly debate an issue without zigzags and vomiting all your bigotry.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት
        ንትቐንኣሉ እንታይ ትብሎ ጀበርቲ
        እወ ኣነ ጀበርቲ ‘የ ምስበለካ ብትዕግስቲ

        ኣይኮንካን ጀበርቲ ድማ ትብሎ
        ትግምጠል ከም መቘሎ

        ስኻ ትግርኛ ኢኻ ድማ ተስዕበሉ
        ትግርኛ ይዛረብ ግን ትትብሎ ሕሰበሉ
        ምስበለካ

        ኤርትራዊ ኣይኮንካን ድማ ትብል
        ፈላሚ ሰውራ ‘ኳ ኣነ ‘የ ድማ ጀበርቲ ‘ብል
        እስኻ ኣንድነት ክትብል
        ጀበርቲ ‘ኳ ‘ዩ ዝመረሖ ናይ ቀደም ይኣክል [ግዜ ፈደረሸን ማለተዩ]

        ምስ በለካ
        ሕጂ ድማ ተራ ናይ ጀበርቲ ኮይኑ ይሓተካ
        እስከ ንገረኒ መን ምዃንካ
        ድም ይብለካ

        ተሓታቲ ምስደንጸዎ
        ኣነ ሃገራዊ ‘የ ይብል
        ንኸምስል

        እሞ በለ ጀበርቲ
        በሪሁለይ ከምዝኾንካ ተጎታቲ

        ሰዓቢ ህግደፍ
        ከምይ ኢልካ ንጀበርቲ መንነቱ ክትሓትት ኤእ! ንዓ ግደፍ
        ኡስ ኢልካ ብላዕ ተረፍመረፍ
        ኣይንስኻ ንዲኻ ደኣ ስግር መረብ
        [Not that there’s anything wrong with that]

        ናታስ ንሓመታ
        ገሊኣ ደምቢያ ገሊኣ ወሎ ገሊኣ እንድርታ
        ‘ቶም ዝሓቱ ትቐርቦም ኮታ
        ኣየ ሰብ ሎቖታ
        ፋብሪካ ናይ ዑብታ

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Friend

          It is prior to intellectual (abstract) thinking, mental activity characteristically consisted of vivid pictorial images that arose spontaneously in the human mind from natural and supernatural stimuli. The ability to think abstractly is the necessary foundation for mathematics, language and empirical science. No more than that at all…If man has chance to upgrade to higher it is no more needed but I think that all is no more needed as the future will be more advanced than now where the 3D is functioning..when time comes it is not important ..

          KS,,

          • Selamat Kokhob Selam,

            I believe you may find this video I am linking interesting though I think you may have already come across it. Also, Muhandis MiEbale may be inspired to write a giTTmi/poem regarding he subject of the video as well as Professor Paul Denmarkino AArkey may say a little or a lot about stem cells and 3D printing. As for your “..if man has chance to upgrade to higher…” there are numerous institutions mushrooming all over the internet and the tools of technology available have enhanced the learning or the upgrading to such a very high level of efficiency where absolutely not a single student is left behind. After watching the video you and others perhaps can browse edx dot org and enroll in a course or two of your interest for absolutely free and a nominal fee for certification. Speaking for Eritreans, groups of people or educational civic societies can form to gather and distribute hardware and logistics to encourage the Eritrean youth utility of these free “upgrading” opportunities.

            Consciousness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQKMNI5X148

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ጻጸ

            ዝሰደድካያ ቪድዮ ክርኢ ተረቢጸ
            ምስ ወዳእኩዋ ግን ተስፋ ቆሪጸ

            ተደናጊረ
            ኣብ ሓንጎለይ ዝነበረ
            ብላሽ ምዃኑ ዘኪረ

            ተናዊጹኒ
            ወረ ሕጅስ መርዘን ሒዙኒ
            መስለኒ

            መን ምዃና ንክንፍለጥ
            ስሰዐ ነጥፍእ ንቐንጥጥ
            ዶ ‘ሉ ሓቀይ?

            ኣንታ’ሞ ዝናትና ጸገም
            ስሰዐ ‘ዶ ይኸውን ዝተረገም
            ኣእቲና ዘሎ ናብ ጉሁም

            ስለምንታይ ነዚ ሓራዲ ዝድግፉ
            ንብል
            ካብ ስሰዐ ከይተናገፉ
            ሂወቶም ምስኡ ‘ዮም ከሕልፉ
            ሕማቕ ታሪኽ ገዲፎም ክሓልፉ

            በል መዲተሽን ክጅምር
            ምስ የማናይ ክንፊ ናይ ሓንጎለይ ክመክር
            ዝሓለፈ ክዝክር

            ከም ገለ ሓበረታ ተረኸብኩ
            መን ምዃነይ ተፈለጥኩ

            እምበር ሕጅስ ካባይ የድሕንካ
            ዋላ ነዛ ዝሓዝኩዋ ማንካ
            ተጠራጢረያ ከይትኸውን ፒሮ
            እዋይ ክሓስም
            ክጻወተልካ ከሎ ኣእምሮ

          • Kokhob Selam

            Wow መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ ….

            Exactly what you..

            “እምበር ሕጅስ ካባይ የድሕንካ
            ዋላ ነዛ ዝሓዝኩዋ ማንካ
            ተጠራጢረያ ከይትኸውን ፒሮ
            እዋይ ክሓስም
            ክጻወተልካ ከሎ ኣእምሮ ”

            Thank you መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ—

            KS,,

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thnak you tSAtSE:

            Sir,,that was very fine..I saw this some time back,,as you said it,,we those in this very wonderful journey are fast those days,,, searching and upgrading our consciousnesses,,

            KS,,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          ሰላም መሃንድሳይ,

          ኣብ መጀመርያ ገድሊ ዝተጸንበርኩሉ አነ ሓደ ካብቶም ዓረብ ናታና ኣይኮነን ዝብሉ አኽረርቲ እየ ነይረ:: ኣብ ናይ ካሪክሉም ኮሚተ ተመዲበ ምስ ብጾተይ ንሰርሓሉ ዝነበርናውን ከም መተካእታ ‘ዓረብ’ ድንቁርና ንምጥፋእ ዘገልግሉ መጻሕፍቲ ኣዳሊና ነይርና:: ዝኾኑ ኾይኑ ካብ መትከል ውድብና ወጻኢ ተባሂሉ መሪሕነት ጠጠው ኣቢልዎ::

          ብድሕሪኡ ናይ ህዝብና ድልየት ከጽንዕ ከም መደብ ወሲደ ነቶም ዓረብ ዝደልዩ ምእመናን እስልምና ኣሕዋትና ኣብዝተፈላለዩ ዓሌት ዝኾኑ ሓውሲ ቃል መሕበት ገይረ ከምዝፈልጦ ገይረ:: ከምቲ ተገንዝቦይ ካብቲ ውልቀ መጽናዕቲ ዝገበርክዎን ብጀካ እቶም ከበሳ ክርስትያን ኩሉ እቲ ኻልእ ሕብረተሰብና ተረዲኤ:: ብኡ መሰረት ከአ ኣብ ዓረብ ዝነበረኒ ኣረኣእያይ ቀይረ:: አነ መንኮይነ እየ ንድልየታቶም ዝውስን:: ኣብድልየታት ህዝብና ዘይተመርኮሰ ውሳኔታት ኩሉ ግዜ ጠንቅታቱ ከቢድ እዩ::

          ካልኣይ ድማ ቋንቋ ካብ መሳሪሒ ሓሊፋ እንታይ ኣገልግሎት አለዎ? ቋንቋ መሳሪሒ ፓለቲካ ክትገብሮ ምፍታን ግን ናይ ንቅሓት ድኽነት እዩ::

          ሳልሳይ ዓረብን ትግሪኛን ከም መሳሪሒ ዕለኛ ቋንቋታት ኤርትራ ወለድና ተራዳዲኦም መዕርፎ ዝገበርሉ ጉዳይ እዩ:: እዞም ሕጂ ጸረ ዓረብ ዘኽርሩ ዘለው ኣሕዋትና ኣፍልጦ ድልየት ሕብረተሰብና ዝጎደሎም እዮም:: ወይውን ፓለቲካዊ መኽሰብ ክረኽብሉ ዝህንቀውን እስልምናን ዓረበኛን ሓሳስያ ዘምጸኣሎም ውልቀሰባት እዮም::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ኤማ

            ጽቡቕ ኣለኻ: ትጸገም ናይ ዘይምፍላጥ’ዩ።

            ክገርመካ ኣብ ሱዳን ወይ ኣብ ካል ኦት ዓዲ ዓረብ ዝነበረ ወይድማ ከም ገለ ኢሉ ዓረብ ምዝራብ ዝለመደ: ዓረብ ካላኣይ ቋንቋ ክኸውን’ዩ ተልካዮ ተኾነ ይሕጎስ ‘ተዘይ ኮነ ድማ ጽቡቕ’ዩ ዝብለካ።

            መብዛሕትና ኤርትራ ፍርቂ-ፍርቂ ያ ኢልና ንኣምን። እሞ ትፍርቂ, ዓረብ ካላኣይ ቋንቋ ና ክኸውን ኢና ንደሊ ተይሉ, መርሓባ ምባል

            ክገርመካ: እምብረዛ ዓዲ-ሃሎ ሓንቲ ጠርሙዝ ዊስኪ ምስ ጨለጠ ከም ገለ ኢሉ “ዓረብ ካላ ኣይ ቋንቋና ክኸውን ኣዊጀ ኣለኹ። ዓረብ ምዝራብ ሃገራዊ ‘ዩ ዘብለካ” ተዝብል መብዛሕቲኣ ሰብ ግምጥል ምበለት ኮይኑ ስመዓኒ።

            እንተኾነ ቋንቋ ሃብቲ ‘ዩ። ፊክሽን ጽሒፍና ከማን ነዚ ካብ ቢልዮን ንላዕሊ ተዛራባይ ዓረብ ምሸጥናሉ። ካበይ ‘ሞ ትምጻእ ታ ፍልጠት

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            Speaking of language, Eritrea is not different from the formerly colonized African Nations. Most of them hold their colonizer’s language as a second one or a language of their own (the one used by most of their people and the one spoken by the majority). From Kenya, Uganda, Nigeria, South Africa, Senegal (French though 100% Muslim nation and so one). Why are same people making a beef on this Arabic language. I like SJ but not when is debating secondary issues.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas,

            I can understand your point. But this is what my postion about language: First it is settled issue. Second, I don’t mind to have even more than two official languages. Switzerland a small country like ours have three official language. But as you know, it is the stupid Eritrean politics that brings all kinds of problems to the society. This shouldn’t be a big issue. So I stand by what our fathers and forefathers have settled it. Why do want to go back to square one?

          • Thomas

            Thanks, Amma. I agree we don’t want to mess with what was working during the course of our history. So, if our second language was Arabic and I say let it be. It is the next generation who will decide though. For my generation, it won’t be easy to start learning Arabic from a scratch:) Sometime after independence some teachers who came from Arab countries started teaching our 1st graders learn Arabic. I am not lying if I tell you most of these kids were flunking the course. They hated it like we used to hate learning Amharic language. You would have imagined these little kids with a unbiased mind to accept and enjoy learning anything that is presented. The only thing I blame is the culture they are exposed and their parents cannot any way help them.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Thomas,

            I was a teacher and director of an elementary school where 95% of it were highlanders. All were learning Arabic with great interest, and many of them have done well in their Arabic classes. During my teaching in that school, I found only a first-grade girl, about five or six years old, refusing to learn Arabic. When I searched about the issue, I found her mother who told her not to learn Arabic. I requested the girl to bring her mother to the school. When the mother came to the school I told her to build a stable nation, we should accept what our people agreed upon. You have to understand that learning a language has many benefits and it will never hurt your child, think about it. There are too lowlanders who don’t want to learn Tigrinia, but we tell them to learn Tigrinia.

            All our students were learning Arabic, Tigrinia, and English. They benefited a lot from learning the three languages. Many of our students immigrated to Europe and America. Maybe at present, they are thanking us for teaching them Arabic.

            Al-Arabi

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Hameed,
            Of course you like Arabic language because your last name is Al-Arabi (just a joke for a Friday afternoon!)
            The joke aside, I wish I was in your class.

            Disclosure: I was in the Sudan, many years ago, and wanted to learn how to read and write. Started to attend a local unofficial school, in Jiref Gel’A, MeHaTa Seb’A area.
            In few days, started to figure out the alphabets and in about a month or so, started to read simple words, like Pepsi (there was no Coke in Sudan, for some reason). You won’t believe how happy I was.
            Then, our teacher told us to start reading newspapers. I started to do that and I got lost. Discouraged, then started going to Enda Miess (on the back wall of the main NeQTa). Everything was history after that. I have always regretted ever after.

            Many years fast forward, when I say I speak Arabic, I see many friendly faces.

            So, what did I lose? on the contrary, I have gained a lot!

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            Some orthodox fanatic might ask to learn Geez some time in the future, I am sure you will understand things then. I believe in freedom of religious & everything but I do not want to be forced to learn foreign language. Again, I must learn Tigre, Sahayo, Afar & the rest Eritrean language. Almost every scientific books are interpreted into English & almost all the dominant media outlets are printed or televised In English language. All most all technology & it’s applications is targeted at English speakers. Population all over the universe have interest in learning English because it is so useful to communicate. I would rather be part of this but it is because it’s usefulness.

          • Brhan

            Hi Thomas,
            You arrive in Asmara Airport and you are handed to fill an entry form. In what language , do you want to fill? The form can’t be in all Eritrean languages. But in the languages that we will hammer in our future constitution as our official languages.
            I hope you are following me because I am using plain English. Ok, let us continue, the president of Eritrea will address the nation…is he going to address the nation in all languages or …. you know by this time what I mean
            You are given a government position that you will be a guest speaker in every Zoba ( province)? Are we expecting you to speak in every language of the each Zoba or …

            “Some orthodox fanatic might ask to learn Geez some time in the future, I am sure you will understand things then”
            I think you have to edit it because it seems you want to say something else.
            If he or she wants to learn it , then let him or her learn it ..Geez is taught even in the University of Toronto, Canada..

          • Thomas

            Hi Brhan,

            You do not have to read it or understand it. I am speaking on what is good for all eritreans

          • Brhan

            Hi Thomas,
            All the countries you have mentioned have constitution and what a constitution include: an article about official languages of the countries in crystal clear. How did they do it for Ethiopians, by referendum and the rest legislative bodies: mechanism.
            Do we have a constitution in Eritrea. No. Are we going to have: certainly. Are we going to have an article with regard to official languages , yes. How are we going to do it through either or both mechanism. What will be the technique, ballots and my friend Thomas see you in the ballots.!

          • Brhan

            Hello Amanuel,
            If it is a settled issue, then, why we have all these discussions. I remember we had the same discussions in the end of the 90s and here we go again.
            I think this time it is better to speak about the mechanism and institutionalization with regard to our official languages.

          • Thomas

            Selam Brhan,

            Again if it is already official, why worry about it then. If it is working, then let’s keep the language that is working. My problem is talking about it like it is our real/priority problem. Yes, if it seems to become a problem, it can be solved through voting to. That the way it is here in the USA

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Brhan,

            Dictators use their own language as instrument of “dictation and domination.” Our despot is practicing precisely that using the dominant social force around him. Just observe how the simple concept “fair share” irritates them. Anyone against fair share must be in favor of “dictation & domination.” Otherwise, the language issue is a settled one during the federal arrangement with Ethiopia in early 50s. Having multiple languages as official is not a barrier to any kind of development. But they want to use the language of the ruling social force to influence the lives of the minority social groups. This kind of enforcement will depen the mistrust of the two “major religions” and the various “social groups” that makes modern Eritrea.

            Regards

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            Brhan in response above said, “What will be the technique, ballots and my friend Thomas see you in the ballots.!” I very much liked his response. Especially when we are talking about using foreign language as one of our official language/s, our people from all sectors need to be heard as such will go to the ballots to choose what will be good for them. Let’s call the official language issue voting for “Article X”. Of course, the result will be registered in our future constitutions. Since Arabic or English is foreign language to all Eritreans, this should not be an issue I believe:)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Thomas,

            I don’t believe referendum on languages. If it is the demand of half of our population we have to respect it. Second I will agree with those who want three official languages (Tigrigna, Arabic & English). The Chiristian highlanders are the only section of our society that are rejecting Arabic language. Ask to the Tigrigna speaking – how about Tigrigna and English?They will automatically tell you that it is okay with them. They don’t have any problem with English, not because it is a widely used language, but in their mind it is because English is a Christian language. That is the optic of their politics. I am in favor of Arabic simply because it brings unity between the two religious divide. As simple as that. Any issue that brings us together I will voice for it. That is my principle. I am for accommodating them.

            Regards

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            Well, we cannot dictator the other party to satisfy one party. I do not think we are talking about our languages, the Eritrean languages. Remember, Arabic is not Eritrean language. That is why the choice will be for all Eritreans – not for the selected sector of Eritreans. That is not how it is done. If you are trying to unit one part; you as well might lose the other part.

            The Eritrean people can benefit a lot by speaking more universal language (as an official language) than trying to use a language spoken by only some Arab nations. Why would the Muslims tie Arab as their own then? Why would they push for it if it is not widely used as English is? I do not think that is healthy then. If anything, they should have voted for the language of their own.

            Let’s take for example in Ethiopia, the Oromos seem to be satisfied, but the other ethinics are not happy with the changes going so conflict will continue.

            We cannot do things to bring temporary solutions. For any action we take, there will be an opposite and may be equal reaction:) We don’t know if choosing arabic is going to bring unity either. One thing we know is that is bringing disunity as we can see the reaction of some members visiting this site. Again, Arabic is foreign to Eritreans as well as English. Everyone has the right to choose one from the other.

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            I also agree on having 3 languages (Tigrigna, Arabic and English). If we can win all, we can have these 3 languages. You see this is called a referendum though it was done between you and me:) If necessary we can stretch the voting to many and make everyone happy to:)

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            I agree. Pluralism and pragmatism in tandem with civic culture are the way forward. To get there however, we have a lot of work to do. As much as the US politics particularly in the early 19 Century played a huge role when Canada was trying to patch up two cultures, languages and traditions as it attempted to create a Confederate State, Ethiopian politics particularly Tigreans can influence the Highlands of Eritrea if Eritreans themselves can not as you put it accommodate a leveled political field for the two competing sections of the nation. The Highlands and the Lowlands.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            I am glad that we are in the same understanding as to how to handle grievances and how to bring fairness to our diversity. There is no peace and democracy without “accommodation” and “fair sharing” in the political and economic life of our people. Fair minded people know the solution to the demand of our diversity. Doctore, as far as our conscience stood for the fairness of our diversity, we will not live in a sinful regrettable world. We will keep fighting for equitable way of life for our diversity. We will keep hope alive for our minorities.

            Regards

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Brhan,

            Eid Mubarak

            The official languages issue was a deal done in the fifties of the last century through democratic Mechanism and Institutionalization. All should abide by that deal and show their civilization by respecting treaties and contracts they entered with others. We are not insane to fill a leaky barrel with water.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Brhan,

            Just to be consistent, why did we have to do a referendum in 1991 though Eritrea was just annexed by force 30 years before 1991? You cannot pick and choose in this case. Also, remember you are talking about what was done in the 50’s not to mention how it was done at that time. I am scared to learn a foreign language as a freshman. I have learned English since grade 3 and it was not easy. Some of my Muslim friends attended Arabic classes at a school called Jalia Asmara school back then. I felt like they had to attend that school because it has to do with their religion. All I am saying it was never a big deal. All Muslims and Christians had to study all classes in English NOT in Amharic or Arabic at high school level. You can imagine how things would have been if we had to study sciences in Arabic language:)

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Thomas,
            Though you make good points, at times you go out of the topic. Language as a mere language, language as a teaching medium, language as a cultural component, language as an independent element from race and ethnicity, and language as a religious tool, and language as a governing tool, language as a preservation of rights and unity, though could be related in some aspects, are very different. It would be helpful to the debate if we see it from the different angles instead of squeezing it to one aspect based on our perception which could be wrong. Please entertain those differences and reflect on them.

          • Thomas

            Hi SJ,

            Thank you for the suggestion or guidance. I must say you are the best campaigner:) You have made your case Cristal clear. What is left people voting….

            However, I have already stated that the topic of Arabic language and its use as an official language in Eritrea is NOT my favorite. I can only talk about what I observed and how it was viewed by ordinary eritreans like myself. I never said I am not for it, but what I am saying it would be good if the people have to decide on it. It can be via Ballot and whatever the result is institutionalized; and put in place as an official language in our new Constitution. This will settle the case once for all:)

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Thomas,

            Many times you have mentioned in your comment that the Arabic language is a foreign language to Eritrea. This is your feeling towards the Arabic language, and I can’t change your feeling. On the same level of understanding, I consider Tigrinia as a foreign language to Eritrea. It is an Ethiopian language, especially Tigray. It is the language of Alula militias leftovers in Eritrea. It is not the language of the pure Eritrean highlanders.

            I consent on Tigrinia for only part of Eritreans demand it, but if I am the one to select, I will never admit our children to waste their prime age learning a completely dead language.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            Please watch the video that is from the Bay area festival by the supporters of the mafias regime. You will have to convince those stone headed mafia supporters there. Trust me, it will not be that easy. But, can you please tell me the region in Eritrea where Arabic is spoken? To make it easy for you, below are the 9 trips made of Eritrea:

            1) Bilen, 2) Afar 3) Hedareb 4) Nara 5) Rashaida 6) Tigriniya 7) Kunama, 8) Saho 9) Tigre. Don’t mention the recently added tribe, The rashaida, and know that they are only 1% of our population.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Thomas,

            Those who are dancing at the Bay Area are dancing on festivals of their extinction because the injustice of a big part of Eritrea will definitely lead to the destruction of entire Eritrea. An example, you have Isaias who handed easily Eritrea to Abie Ahmed without fear from any weak. I suspect those dancers are Eritreans, because of how Eritrean dances on the sale of his country.

            On the other hand, all Eritrean Muslims from the immemorial time when the means of education were very rare, they were learning Qur’an at KHALWAH from kindergarten age. I am not speaking about something imaginary. As a child the first alphabets I learned was Arabic and the Suras I memorized were the Qur’an. Every Muslim around the world should memorize Qur’an for his/her prayers and worshiping Allah.

            As a small child, I had written the Arabic alphabets on a wooden-board, we call LUH. We made the ink from the soot of wooden-smoke, glue, and water. The quill we used is Shambiqo or similar kinds of wood. Daily we wash our wooden-boards and polish it with a lime-stone. This is not a dream, Mr. Thomas, it is things I practiced while I was a child. All Muslim children in Eritrea had passed through this experience. These are things inherited generation after generation for centuries.

            Massawa and Western Eritrea used Arabic a way back in history. They used it in their trade, messages, religious rituals, marriage certificates, etc. Moreover for centuries, Massawa, western Eritrea, the Coastal area, Bet-Mikha, etc. were under the administration of the Amir of Mekkah. This is history not imaginary tales.

            At present, the majority of Eritrean Muslims communicate in Arabic fluently. To be sure meet any Muslim youth, escaping for his first time from Eritrea, at the border with Sudan and speak with him in Arabic. You will find him communicates fluently in Arabic. You will understand that I am speaking from facts on the ground.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            Clear enough! Now, I can see the relationship between Quran and the language Arabic. I also know the believers of Islam are very committed and the religion is part and parcel of their daily life. Since half of the Eritrean population are Muslims, it wise to listen and live up to their demands. So, be it, you have my vote. Let’s keep Arabic language as our official language. I am for it. Can we now talk about the mass exodus; and how to uproot the criminals who are behind evil task?

          • Selamat Hamid Al-Arabi,

            I saw or nearly experienced what you have descried beautifully. Nearly every other if not the majority. of the children in my neighborhood carried the LUH. I vaguely recall gazing at one or several LUH up close as I was curious since I did not have now. It is perhaps at this stage in my life that I started to make distinctions between people. The long walks from denQab fenced four rotunda huts compound I began to pear unto others over their denQab. We would walk past a compound housing blen families celebrating a wedding or an engagement with a distinct drum beat and a harmonica and their dance. Passing another compound of four huts it would be a Tigre or binAAmer family or Nara family or both. In our compound there was a kunama family(my first baby-sitters) and a Tigrigna family and across the street were the Tokhrir compounds and their stores. At the Degdaga you would pretty much witness a beautifully blended and blended variety of Eritrean families.
            Yes.. the LUH you mentioned carried me to Teseney for a moment.

            Thanks.

            “..The quill we used is Shambiqo or similar kinds of wood. Daily we wash our wooden-boards and polish it with a lime-stone. This is not a dream, Mr. Thomas,…”

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • In Asmara TaEriffa and giruushhh

            then again QeTQiTT ze QiTTqaTT

            My Kunama neighbors and I spoke Arabic. Where is the confusion? TaHte Al Kubri phi TTariQui al Jebell… Malakinn gnñ gna gna gna…

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You said: ” I consider Tigrinia as a foreign language to Eritrea. It is an Ethiopian language, especially Tigray. It is the language of Alula’s
            militia leftovers in Eritrea. It is not the language of pure Eritrean highlanders.”

            You are mistaken. Spoken and written Tigrinya has at least 800 years of history in the Eritrean highlands.

            How can you make such a silly claim? Are you ‘pure’ Eritrean? You must be a Sudanese immigrant.

          • Thomas

            Selam Simon,

            Abar konka anda cheremka di’ka titsihfo zeleka? Let me change the subject here, do you think Trump will have a 2nd term and how?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            Why are you running for cover from the fake historian?

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon,

            The number 1 enemy of Eritrea and Eritreans is the cancer regime that is killing both. What do I lose from accepting Arab language as an official language regardless of what? Overall, we will also have English as 3rd official language. So, let those who would like to have Arabic language have it. It will only be used in offices or in a curriculum /teaching for upcoming generations. Our Muslims have always used the language at their mosques and it is in their Ku’ran used to reach their Alah:)

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon,

            Hameed is really hitting you right where it hurts you most:) You know he’s got all kinds of weapons:)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Thomas,

            You are bootlicking good. Keep it up, you have earned credit.

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon,

            You look like a damaged good now. Let me know when are about to go to hell. I know you don’t believe in anything so all good:)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            You were damaged at birth and the growth of your brain was stunted by the foul intellectual environment that surrounded you. I know your type.

            Keep on carrying water for someone who wants to take Eritrea back to the Stone Age.

          • Thomas

            Selam,

            Great! Keep up the fight for nothing. People here very angry with what is going back and with the merciless dictator finishing everyone including Hameed’s blood relatives, you have the luxury of time to talk about Trump and his politics. What a caring dude you are!!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            Is Tigrinya a native language to the Eritrean highlands or was it brought to Eritrea by Ras Alula and his followers, as your Sudanese friend claims? Show me you have got a backbone by answering this question clearly.

            Isaias and the guerrillas were/are worshipped and empowered by people like you and me since the ghedli days. So, we have no case for complaint. If you disagree, show us how to remove him practically. Do not delude yourself that you are fighting against dictatorship by raving and ranting on a website. You are coming here only to drown your sorrow and scratch each others back.

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon K,

            Why are you so mad and now trying to pick a fight with me?:) I sure can see you lost it with Hameed. To come to your question, “Is Tigrinya a native language to the Eritrean highlands or was it brought to Eritrea by Ras Alula and his followers, as your Sudanese friend claims?” It is a well known history that Alula’s army were surrounded at the asmara area and since were not able to return to their Amhara (their main home), they melted with the native society there as such created kind of people like the dictator. I am very much convinced about this because I know lots of Eritreans of Amhara origin from this area. I am assuming Hameed is referring to this stuff. However, I am not interest in history because it never adds value to our current situations. Religions and countries were created way before man/animals came into existence. There is no point in trying to know who came first and last. Regardless of what, we are where we are now. Where do we go from here – fight with each other over language issues?

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            You failed to answer my question.

            By the way, to me, you and your Sudanese friend are like a Dime a Dozen. I can tackle your type effortlessly.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            You have proved by your own words that you are far from a sober human being. These intimidation words, “I can tackle your type effortlessly.” clearly explains your entity. When you failed to influence him, you intimidate him by the weapons of torture, assassination, imprisonment, etc. that you think you possess.

            Please, don’t try to experience paternalism on Thomas. He is a matured person who could implement his mind logically, not emotionally.

            Lastly, you are an Ethiopian guy; thus, don’t interfere in the Eritrean issues. Enough is enough! Leave Eritrea for Eritreans. No place for an Agazian guy in Eritrea.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Thomas,

            You did not answer my question.

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon K,

            Look, once upon a time (a very long time ago) there was one religion called Judaism. Out of the parent of all religions, Judaism, the two religions splitted were Christian and Islam. Remember, it is like the father is Judiasm and his children are Christian and Islam. The father always thinks his children are simply being seeking his attention and most of all they know nothing except simply being spoiled. Overtime, the two children got divorced from their parent (the Judaism). Most importantly, their unreconcilable differences became bigger and bigger. Finally, they declare wars among each other. Now, their bottle grounds are in Afghanistan, Iraq and everywhere in the horizon. One calls the other a terrorist, fundamentalist and so so. The other says all name calls is just a propaganda and has decided to resist. So, Mr. Tigrigna and Mr. Arabic – what are you trying to accomplish here? I have taken Eritrean history class. I feel you both are joking because the Nara tribe are the only natives in Eritrea. We all came from different regions in the area. I feel Simon and Hameed are blood brothers though long line blood relatives. There is no problem with Al-Arabi and Keleab though (the fathers were so smart to avoid fighting because there is nothing to again meaningless fighting).

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            I will answer your question, “Is Tigrinya a native language to the Eritrean highlands or was it brought to Eritrea by Ras Alula and his followers, as your Sudanese friend claims?”.

            More than 90% of the Tigrinia speakers are the citizens of Tigrai. This illustrates distinctly that the origin of the Tigrinia language is Tigrai. It immigrated to Eritrea merely due to invasions and other reasons. This makes us conclude without hesitation that Tigrinia is an alien language to the Eritrean people, and most probably, this is the reason that it became a headache to Eritreans. It is natural for the immigrants (the non-pure Eritreans) to yearn to join their center.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            What is the source of your ‘data’? A madrassa in Sudan?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            The source of my data is Mekkelle, the population of Tigrai.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            A madrassa in Mekele?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            I am sure you are one of the remnants of Alula militias. The day you will acknowledge that publicly is not far.

            Tigrinia is not an Eritrean language; it is an Ethiopian. You can trace that easily. The majority of Tigrinia speakers live in Tigray. Tigrinia immigrated from Ethiopia to Eritrea, not vice-versa. Therefore, it is irrational to consider that migration occurred from the low populated area to the high populated region. Everything is clear, and it could be conceived even by the dullest person in the world.

            Tigrinia is an Ethiopian language. You have the right there, inside Ethiopia, to make, this dead language, an official language.

            Did you watch your image in the mirror?

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You are a liar. Are you confused because you lost your bearing? Eritrea is not the Sudan, where you belong.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            ማርያም እግረይ ቁርጽ ተብለኒ if I didn’t drive you to craziness.

            Did you visit the mirror in your house? It is the typical image of Satan.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            I cannot stop laughing! “ማርያም እግረይ ቁርጽ ተብለኒ if I don’t drive you to craziness.”

          • Simon Kaleab

            Thomas,

            You are shallow and a weakling. Typical Asmara University graduate.

            In fact, it is me who is driving the Sudanese nomad crazy he might end up having a heart attack.

          • Saleh Johar

            Thomas Dear,
            I have no problem with any language. I am just informing those who do not know that the issue of language is not going anywhere because it’s a pillar on which Eritrea was formed and half of Eritrea feels betrayed and that kind of grievance is getting bigger and contributing to our disunity. People avoid talking about the freal issue but believe me, I am bi-cultural and understand how serious it is. I am just warning and anyone can ignore my repeated warning at their own peril. It’s not personal issue to me, but national. Please don’t get angry at me because what I expose could make some people uncomfortable. Imagine how many people are being insulted, disrespected and abused for raising an issue that should be understood in its national context? It’s not good at all and the sooner people open their minds and think of all compatriots as equal citizens, the better. Otherwise, we will always live with the manifestations of this very issue. Look at any situation and you get its roots on this one. Thank you

          • Thomas

            Thanks, SJ. Just after independence, I was in your city Karen. The kids there hated learning Arabic as much in other cities as well. To me, language is a means of communications. It is nothing more than that. I will fight to death for everyone’s right in Eritrea’s horizon. Nothing should be imposed to anyone against their will. I think we all are fighting PFDJ for this same reason. However, I agree with almost everything you stated above. ME – I worry too much about our current situation and I don’t want to divert us from focusing. Please continue representing all grievances that are to come. Specially those who are to unite us as people of one nation:)

          • Saleh Johar

            Thomas,
            You could have a different personal observation but your asertion is disproved by serious studies one of which is Dr,. Chefena’s book (Doctoral thesis) and several papers presented in a seminar in Eritrea in the nineties and beyond. Also, please note (I am not sure of your age) but when I was in school in Keren, as children we resisted Amharic while others accepted it based on how we are influenced at home. Maybe those you met were influenced in such a manner–children do not like certain subjects and like other subjects. There is no consistency in that.

          • Thomas

            Hi SJ,

            Well if you want to know, I was at Karen High School doing my university obligation (that is what they used to tell us at that time). I have seen first hand information on what I stated. NO one can refute what I saw. Those kids at the elementary school next to the high school were my witness. The teachers were fluent arabic speakers and these poor kids had no idea on how to communicate with their teachers. You can talk about Chefena, by the way can you state that teaching arabic was a success? I do not know why you brought Chefena and what chefena has to say about what you stating?

          • Saleh Johar

            Thomas,
            Of course it would be difficult for some but not for all. I brought Chefena because he has statistical support and the data he provided can help us understand the implication better–the mother tongue issue. I believe such discussions would be more rational if we depend more on data and less on personal preferences. That is all I was trying to convey. It seems you read too much into it. Thanks

          • Thomas

            Hi SJ,

            Yes, I would like to read what data Chefena has gathered and what his conclusion was based on his data. I also agree with you assertion that we will need to see this from well researched data not from what we will want to see as persons. That it should not a project that we put on other to see if it works or not. It should be wait from different angles. If it is to help our society in anyway, our people will push for it. The fact that I know right now is that no one except the Rashida tribe is fluent in Arabic or is a mothers tongue in our current Eritrea:)

    • cool

      hi tesfom
      you saved my time by responding adequately to the issue.
      It seems like uncurable illnes, that jeberties are diagnosed with.
      The irony is ,no one of them lives voluntarily in saudy arabia, where the langauge ,they felt in love with, is spoken or the tradition they are fascinated by, is practised.

      cool

      • Saleh Johar

        I believe the J bashing season is on again! Good luck but be a little creative, your style is so stale it stinks.

        • cool

          hi saleh,
          style is a matter of taste,but here my response was delibertely styled a little bitter, in order to reactivitate the dead neorological cells which are responsible for logical thinking.

          • Saleh Johar

            Cool,
            Just remember to abide by the posting guidelines. Racism or bigotry is not allowed in this forum. If you want to exercise a dead cell, do it before you come here. Also, drunk driving is not stylish and it universally rejected as tasteless. Could that be logical thinking? I do not think a dead cell would know that.

  • Al Selam wu AAleykum wa raHmatu Allah wa Berekatu!

    NOT Ashera! far from it. The presentation and prioritization of the subject matter and numerous argumentations within I have found it to be off in the negative direction by at least Ashera yards in these times when the scale is nanometers technology. Full of ego and self aggrandizement and bigoted bias though it maybe subconsciously. At a time when the Eritrean is being split open by the Arabs human organs traders and brutalized then shipped in inflatable boats to sail in the high seas by Arab Libyans to be scattered all over the world, to describe the Tigrigna as ‘limited to their hamlets and kushets and uneducated shallow folks…” Perhaps the Tigrigna and all Habesha/black Eritreans from Africa distrust the Arab because the Arab’s forefathers were selling Africans to the whites by calling Eritreans ABID.

    I am Tigrigna and educated and due to a curse I am thousands of miles from my little kushet/my tiny locality and I assure you the Tigrigna in 2019 by choice or not HAVE BROADENED AND ARE AS EDUCATED IF NOT MORE EDUCATED AS THE ARAB. If there is a lack of Tigrigna or Tigre books it is only because of the curse that is lording over Eritrea … And know some are squeezing them from every possible angle. It builds character and beyond knowledge the harsh conditions does educate. So much for the morotorium! I want bother to spell check the word. You claim to be more enlightened and educated you spell it. But don’t call your one man show educational! You will be seeing and witnessing real SCHOOL OF THOUGHT real soon and you shall discover what REAL KNOWLEDGE IS.

    And as for the Arabic language, Ya TTaliB…yeah you have much much more to learn! NaHnu Haveznahu lema kuna Eiyal. I am Tigrigna, Tigre, Bilen, Arabic and English. Those who say “abotatna zmeharuna and the jiber Jaber you spice for the sake of rating, trust me they are miniscule. No I am not trolling nor am I distracting! ZeyHasebkuo zeyiblo zeytSerfo Areb Areb ile Tigrigna kemzi iyyom zblu enda belka aytetSmimema for the sake of your nearly a hundred audiences. Anne ygedid tSibuQ ksemiE iyye ille radiokha zwelaEkua.

    Get off your high horse claiming you are educating. I will have you know that some of us are this very moment earning multiple higher degrees in multiple areas of study without setting foot outside of our homes. For free or nearly for the price of a sandwich and soup at all of our time is spent at Udemy and Datacamp, Deep learning etc… then we are winding down with the garbage at youtube channels due to our need to feel and remain Eritrean.

    Post this or not, it matters not. Educating you are NOT! and your biased outlook and perspective you spewed can be debunked with an all nighter research. KIFAYA!

    Where is your priorities man?

    JOSHUA!

    tSAtSE

  • Nitricc

    why my heart bleeds when I see our politics has come to a very low level. Hypocrites, bigots, fascists, and ethnocentrists have polluted our national discourse and made it a Byzantine discourse. But I do not blame them so much because, when the scholars and academics, and generally, the sane, patriotic Eritreans leave vacuum, only the crazy fill the gap

    Hi SJ; well blame no one but the corrupted Contaminated, Distorted and disgraced Diasporas. They are the source of all evil and problems for Eritrea. 90% of the Eritrean youth fleeing the country; I will confidently assign it on the shoulder of the Diasporas. The truth is the stupid Eritreans who live in Canada wants Eritrea to get the image of Canada. The stupid Eritreans, who live in the US, wanted Eritrea to act and behave like the US. The stupid Eritreans in Scandinavians wanted Eritrea to be just like Norway and Sweden. I mean the problem is nowhere but right within the stupid Diaspora Eritreans. Everything could have worked out to the best if the greedy and stupid diaporans stay away from interfering in the business of the Eritrean people. The truth is once they are out of the country and accepted other citizenship, they have no business, whatsoever about the nation and people of Eritrea. The End of the story!!!! They are the problem.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Nitricc,

      Are you seriously worried about the Eritrean youth fleeing their country?

      Try a different tactic, for a change, by giving the youth voting rights to decide their own fate and see what happens.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam General Nitrickay [ኣደኻ ወሊዳ ትምከን]
      Indeed, a well-articulated point. May I add: most of these “regime change” activists are the ones who benefited from the educational policies of the current government. They were sent out for higher education, then they decided to abscond. And then they complain why there is no better educational standard in Eritrea. Duh!!! Most of the youth who have been attracted by European generous asylum policies that targeted Eritreans and those who entered Israel after an arduous and dangerous journey have in fact remained connected to their country and they are at the forefront of fighting opportunist groups.

      • Gdefena kheA nisiskha..

        You have buried a man who was educating the mind body and Eritrean spirit by forming a CIRCUS! Ohhh Elephants and young students tumbling and performing acrobatics was SUCH A NATIONAL THREAT. THE GENTLEMAN AND SCHOLAR SIMPLY DID HIS JOB. HIS OCCUPATION, ONE OF NUMEROUS CONSTRUCTIVE FOR ERITREA’S SAKE AMBITIONS HE HAD WAS JOUNALISM.
        A journalist WHO REPORTED THE NEWS PER THE PRESS LAW OF ERITREA. A BRIGHT EPLF SCHOLAR WHO SINGLE HANDEDLY BUILD THE ERITREAN GRASS ROOTS MASSIVE SUPPORT FOR THE EPLF.

        You talk of education, YOU KNOW DAMN WELL MY FLESH AND BLOOD BROTHER WHO IS PRACTICALL THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION built YOUR FAILING SCHOOLS IN ERITREA! YOUR POLICY FAILED MISSERABLY! YOU SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH THE SCHOLARSHIPS ABROAD!

        So long as you and my brother continue to serve the murderer AND DENY FISEHAY “JOSHUA” YOWHANIS, YOU AND MY BROTHER DID NOT AND ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR ME AND EHT ERITREAN PEOPLE.

        JOSHUA IS THE LIGHT AND INSPIRATION OF ERITREA! YOU AND MY BROTHER AND THE SERVANTS OF THE MURDER WILL BE RELEGATED WHERE YOU BELONG. TO THE GARBAGE!

        JOSHUA!

        tSAtSE

      • Berhe Y

        Hi MS,

        That coming from Nitricc is expected, he has no moral value. But coming from you, I think you are becoming one of the biggest hypocrite.

        Berhe

  • iSem

    Hi Saleh and All:
    Saleh, beautiful, you have been saying this in drips and drabs over the years. This articulates it cogently
    Identity language, culture is instantaneous They are what they are for now. They change, the disappear. If you were to sleep now in Asmara and wake up 500 years from now, you may not recognise the linage or the people
    Circa 1200 years ago the English language did not exist, todays Britain was settled by the Celtic and Gaelic people. Then the Anglos came and enslaved and killed them, then the Saxon came and then the Romans. The Celtic and Gaelic languages have disappeared and English which is based on the German language (about 30%) and the rest borrowed from these influences and emerged international language and Great Britain’s Empire expanded it. The English identity is relatively new. Only a millennia old.
    If you do DNA test of an Eritrean bigot, he may have Arab or even native Canadian DNA.
    So your identities changes, your language changes and that is the beauty of it al
    The once rising Egypt, its Coptic language is now infused with Arabic and we have Egyptian Arabic. Tell a Sudanese “Alem” (Egyptian pronunciation of for Pen) and the Sudanese and other Arabs will think you are saying “pain’.

    • Saleh Johar

      iSem,
      The beauty of seeking knowledge and broadening your horizon!
      Thank you.

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Saleh,

    Thank you fir covering the topic. It’s a great lesson to many of us who do not have the historical understanding.

    You reminded me my math teacher in high school. His name was Abdulahi. He was really fun guy and excellent math teacher. I am sure a lot of awatista know him.

    In those days when there was an announcement usually a message gets circulated from class to class abd the teacher who happen to be at that time gets to read it, and pass it to next class and goes on.

    One day during our math class, an announcement t come from office and was handed to teacher Abdulahi to read it.

    Half way through, he started to stumble, and could not read the words and he couldn’t prounance then properly. He started to laugh and the class started to laugh.

    Then he gave to the class monitor to read it instead and he did. When it done he said let me tell you a story and he went on.

    During the federation, Tigrinya and Arabic was the official language and people use to study in those languages. Then federation was abolished and Amharic become the only language. There were still some Arabic school so those who can, attended those schools. So he did that.

    The problem with that he said, during matriculation, you take the test in all subjects. But English, Math and Amharic are mandatory and they select the best from other subjects.

    This was unfair because those people who speak Amharic have an advantage but worst, those who do not study in Amharic (like him) have no chance to go and study in university (almost impossible) but in a very small number.

    During the Derg, he removed Amharic from being mandatory for entrance to higher education but all subjects are still thought in Amharic.

    Just sharing the story at the same time coraborating (which make sense to me) to what you said, why the number of Muslims going to higher education in Ethiopia was a lot smaller, compared to those who speak Tigrinya.

    On the other hands, many students who studied in the Arabic school (like Jalia) us to go to Egypt and other places for higher education.

    Berhe

    • Saleh Johar

      Berhe,
      There are so many jokes of teachers like Abdullah who were subjected to deal with Amharic when they were teaching in Arabic all their lives. One such teacher was told to teach English that was not his skill. He couldn’t find the world for door-joints and he said, “The mufeselat of the door.” But they were very dedicated and respected teachers that we were afraid of them more than from our parents.

      By the way, the late Alamin Abdulatif was one of them and he was a teacher at Jalia.

  • If it is going to be said that “Arabic” is only a language, so are “Tigrigna, Blin, Tigre, Saho, Afar”
    why the need for Arabic?

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Brother ,

    I was really was waiting as you have informing us last time…

    This is very educational and interesting topic…And that egg thing was hatching every time you change the direction..I saw as you have informed me in advance..I was following you as if I am with you during recording..That was fantastic and nice by the way.

    Now, can I add one thing with your explanation ….That it is possible to up grade our Tigrinya with our kind advanced knowledge that we already have..I think but it needs more time and finance…that is possible… think about it and reply to me…

    KS..

    • Saleh Johar

      Kokeb Selam,
      If you ask me, I think all little league languages will be extinct in a few decades. Any language that doesn’t have a deep foundation cannot cope with the rising languages. China (I think Mandarin) is assured of continuity together with Hindi. They will be the supreme languages together with the official languages of the UN. The rest will not be able to compete in the overwhelming technological race and information revolution. In short, any language without enough pool of speakers, enough stored knowledge base, and without enough vocab will not stay relevant for too long. However, they may exist as a localized vehicle of cultural expression.

      So, developing languages is not wishful, I think, but governed by many factors–resources and how effectively they can compete with living languages.

      Thank you

      • Kokhob Selam

        Yes Brother,

        To be honest and frank :

        “So, developing languages is not wishful, I think, but governed by many factors–resources and how effectively they can compete with living languages.”

        It depends in how hard will do our home work in expanding our language and a lot of work is needed..specially in evolutionary time of the future we human beings will face the 5D era and not 5G era Ha ha ,,,,Is Mahmuday reading this post?

        Best regards and and thank you…

        KS,,

        • Brhan

          Hello Kokhob Selam,
          We do not have to do hard work but the following person has to:
          1) the word official is related to officials as simple as that …the official in Massawa port will deal with Eritreans coming from the east , west, south and north. Poor person if he or she doesn’t know the languages of all the people who come from all these directions. Lucky if the person does and he or she can be rare as diamond of these days
          2) But if this person and the people of all directions have a guide in what language they are going to communicate, then kulu temam or hiji girim or now all is fine
          3) that guide…! how do we find it MECHANISM a) from the sky? b) from our elected officials of different parties who will come with majority vote ( act passed by legislative body) c) asking our people ( referendum)
          That guide is the constitution. Institutionalization
          We are not telling all Eritreans to know our official languages but our officials. So Kokohbay if you are thinking to run to be a minister , you better start the home work
          Enjoy the weekend my friend

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Brhan,

            wonderful Name by the way.. “Brhan” what was the equation to call such name?

            But now all the reasons you gave above are simply nice answers for Semere Tefai who try to post above to SGL.

            See,
            Brhan the futures is for our coming generation not for me and you and as such the coming near some time is going to be great development to this universe as wide and in our area ..specially..

            And language has nothing to do with religion but religion had and will continue to have some effect in world for sure till the matrix era ends. As always the more developed language will remain,,watch now the Egypt case the Christians have enough words to their religion.. and all Arabic with Christian had their own words same with Muslims..Let me tell you what happened in Habesha,,, when the Egyptian came to Habesha and start to his talk in Arabic what ? some Ethiopians was confused,,I think the word was only graduating God ..

            You are right when you said “That guide is the constitution. Institutionalization ” I am much relax my brother..

            KS,,

          • Brhan

            መሓመድ ብርሃን ዶ ክብለካ
            ዓንደ ብርሃን ዶ ክብለካ
            ኣንታ ኮኸብ ሰላም
            ትሕሾ ብርሃን ዝባዕልኻ

  • Brhan

    Thanks Saleh
    የቐንይለና
    شكر جزيلا

    I would like to add three points that I believe you did not address them in this very good presentation of yours.
    1) If I am not mistaken Dr. Berekt H.Selae, who was one among those who drafted the constitution of Eritrea ( which is not implemented till this day), when later asked about the drafted constitution stand on the issue official languages of Eritrea, he said that he regrets for not resolving this issue during the process of the drafting of the constitution. As we know Article 4 # 3 says that all Eritrean languages are equal. This is the only statement in the draft that indicates about language/s. A political science professor from Egypt was invited by Eritrean students to give his view about the draft and the first question he asked was ” what is/are the official language/s of Eritrea?” and when some referred to Article 4 , he said that the drafted Article 4 is ambiguous. This was in 1996. And now we are 2019 and we are still speaking about it and it has become a cycle. The federation era constitution was clear and made both Arabic and Tigrinya as the official languages of Eritrea. Last but not least if we see other countries’ constitutions we will find that their official languages is stated crystal clear and this will lead me to my second point.

    2)How do we get out ourselves from these cycle. The solution is referendum. But to do that referendum we have to solve our priorities : freedom of speech, democracy and rule of law. Which means that the current regime must give the power to the Eritrean people and all who committed crimes against humanity must be presented to justice. After that we can do the referendum. Let us not go very far to find example how referendum solved the issue of official languages in some countries: south of the border , Ethiopia. Ethiopians went to ballots to choose the official language of Ethiopia and the outcome was Amharic. To some who had grievances related to Amharic this was tough choice but it was better than any language they can choose. I do not mean that this solution was a cure for Ethiopians’ woos, but at least it closed the file of the official languages once and for all

    3) Eritrean Literature in Arabic abroad is growing faster and has set its foot internationally. Haji Jaber’s ” رقوة سوداء” ” Black Foam” is nominated for 2019 Booker (Arabic ) prize and his another novel ” مرسى فاطمة” is being translated to Italian as “Fuga Dalla Picolla Roma”
    The African Titanic is an English translation of an Arabic novel written by veteran Eritrean Abu Baker Kahal and it is also translated to Turkish .
    This year also saw the birth of a new Eritrean novelist : and his book
    I wish awate staff present these books or parts of them and other aspects of Eritrean Literature which also include poems and drama in Arabic to Tigrinya or English

    Thanks

    • Saleh Johar

      Berhan,
      One cannot put a national intellectual capacity in a referendum. Why would you vote to discard your knowledge and your cultural heritage?

      I agree, the number of Arabic books by Eritreans is on the rise and Hajji Jabir and Abubaker Kahal have been successful indeed.

      I believe a true representative, just and enlightened governance will solve all our problems: cultural, economic and political.

      Thank you

      • Brhan

        Hello Saleh,

        I think you are referring to Arabic as a heritage and not as an official language and the two are different.

        Also I am speaking about ending the cycle: institutionalization and mechanism.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Berhan,
      I don’t think referendum is needed to decide national language. Suppose say those who advocate Tigrinya to be the only national language (like the example you gave in Ethiopia) then what? Force everyone else to learn in Tigrinya and Tigrinya alone. And how is this suppose to benefit Eritrea abd including the Tigrinya speakers.

      I don’t speak Arabic but I wish I had the opportunity to do so. There is nothing one loses except gain if one learns multiple languages, and knowing Arabic has huge advantage in our region.

      FYI, Canada has two official languages (English and French) and give right fir people to learn their native language if they do wish, as a means of multiculturalism, and I think it has served the people well.

      I agree with Saleh, enlightening and education will solve the issue.

      BTW, does anyone know if Arabic is thought in all schools today? I am under the impression it is, which the next generation will be much more enlighten citizens.

      Berhe

      • Brhan

        Hi Berhe,
        Thank you for your input to my comment.
        I believe official and national languages are two different things. While we can debate on the former we can’t on the later. National languages were / are / will be there , preserved. You brought a good example of Canada while English and French are official languages , the indigenous languages are national.
        I am talking about official languages and their institutionalization in the future constitution of Eritrea.
        Again back to Canada: how are that English and French the official languages? Because there is Official Languages Act (Canada) which came from the house of commons ( elected member of parliament of political parties debated it)
        If you Berhe, a Tigrinya speaker, is for Arabic as one of the official languages don’t you think there are many like you in this regard. At the end the majority rules and we have to respect the choice of the minority who do not want Arabic to be as one of the official languages.
        But if you think referendum won’t work , what about the Canadian style?
        Thanks,

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Brhan,

          Yes I am for Arabic to be official language, but from my family (I didn’t made an official count) but I would be a minority simply because there is not much thought and interest in the historical context abd back ground. Most just repeat, why Arabic, it’s not our language.

          Because of this I don’t think referendum is a good idea because it takes a lot of time and effort to educate the public to make informed choice. Case in point, the recent referendum in the UK with regards to Brexit. I don’t think most of the people who chose no have real and deep understanding the consequences.

          In Canada like you said the law is passed by parliament “Official language Act”.

          I personally think there is no need to lien the file, as it was settled during the first constitution and Dr. Bereket and company should just adapt and moved on (but he was hired to implement a constitution which was suitable for IA) as the leader.

          Berhe

          • Millennium

            Berhe:

            Never mind what I believe about this official language debate but I can tell you it is really amusing when you say that because the majority are less informed about the subject matter you will just choose for them what should be the official language. And, yes, you believe in democracy?!

            Millennium

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Millennium,

            You can twist what I said any way you like it.

            I said, the parliament can settle the issue. What’s wrong with that?

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hi Berhe,

            Had the Canadians failed to institutionalize the issue of official languages of Canada we would have conversations about it till this day. But they did close it by the legislative power and the file had been closed once and for all.
            My dear brother , I know it takes a lot of time and effort but the file must be closed one way and other way thus we can move forward.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Brhan,

      Mr. Brhan, It is a grave mistake to expose your RIGHTS to a referendum. Rights are acquired without discussion or votes; they are not issues for debate or popular vote. I think it is unwise to reiterate the serious mistake experienced by the Eritrean parliament in the fiftieth of the last centuries. During the vote for official languages, all the Muslims and Christians voted for Tigrinia; however, when the turn of the Arabic language came, all the Muslims voted for the Arabic language, but the Christians refrained from voting to the Arabic language. This had made all Muslims go out of the parliament house. Haile Selassie, British, and UN sensed the danger and immediately rectified the problem by making the Arabic and Tigrinia the Official languages of Eritrea.

      Note: Muslims all over the world pray in Arabic. For example, the prayer call (الاذان) all around the world is the same Allah Akbar without translation, whether in America, Japan, Canada, Mekkah, Asmara, etc. The same goes with the Nobel Qur’an during prayers. Islam is different from the other religions that pray with various languages.

      Al-Arabi

      • Brhan

        Ahlan Hamed Arabi
        Allow me to say that I spoke only about the issue of institutionalization of official languages . If you know the term institutionalization you will understand that I am speaking for the solution. You see at least I tried, but you did not. Can you tell how can we reach to an agreement with regard to official languages
        A) referendum
        b) through legislative power (which you seem to drop it due the federal era)
        c) Hameed Al Arabi solution ( I am looking forward to it)
        d) none of the above

        Was your Note directed to عالم من علاماء المتواضعين

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Brhan,

          If Arabic and Tigrinia are not the official languages, then the solution is to make ENGLISH our national language. The rest of every group should care about their national language.

          Al-Arabi

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Hameed,
            “If ARABIC and TIGRINIA are not the official languages, then the solution is to accept ENGLISH as our official language”.

            Now we are close to understand each other , let us go one step forward: How do we achieve that?
            In another words , how do we do that? We have to do it using mechanism and make it a law that every citizen must respect it.

            If you do not have a clue to mechanisms , I am afraid that I have to repeat my self:
            a) referendum
            b) through legislative power (where Eri political parties reps debate
            it in their capacity as member of parliaments)

            There are only two ways or do you have the third way and if you do please say it

            Thanks,

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Brhan,

            I don’t think the referendum and legislative body you speak about will solve the problem. If these people abide by referendum and legislative body, the Eritrean legislative body resolved this issue in the fifties of the last century. I wonder why you call for a referendum, and you had an experience that they don’t respect covenants or contracts.

            Mr. Brhan, those who oppose the Arabic language are Ethiopians who don’t believe in a nation named Eritrea. They only accept the Ethiopian languages specially Amharic.

            Al-Arabi

          • Brhan

            Hameed first of all Eid-Al – Adah mubarek,

            I want to follow you: when I spoke about the issue of official languages, you spoke about religion. Again when I spoke about it again you spoke about English being an official language of Eritrea. For the the third time, I did spoke about it and you spoke about Ethiopia. What has Ethiopia to do with it. Ethiopia hates and loves about us, who cares. We are a country and they are. We do not have to like what they like and vice versa.
            Having said that ….
            If to you neither referendum nor legislative won’t solve the problem then who will solve it? A miracle , for example, from the sky?

            Again enjoy the Eid!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Brhan,

            Eid Mubarak

            I think, before some months you were propagating to be annexed to Ethiopia. It seems you have forgotten that and today you are propagating for referendum and Eritrean Muslims should look to Muslim countries that don’t use Arabic as their official language. You have to understand, Mr. Brhan, we don’t have a problem concerning the Arabic language, Arabic will remain forever in Eritrea. Those who have a problem are those Ethiopians who claim to be Eritreans.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selamat Hamid Al-Arabi,

            1.) “… the Eritrean legislative body resolved this issue in the fifties of the last century.” This is your best and only rational statement or counter argument. One can relax to think that Al-Arabi only wants a hundred percent guarantee for the establishment of Arabic as the official language of Eritrea.

            Then you go bonkers and start making unfounded proclamation.
            2.) “… they don’t respect covenants or contracts.” One can only wonder about who “they are” and “if they ever existed?” Your deducing from those that did exists behavior in “the fifties of last century….” the same outcome exposes a lot. Could it be an underdeveloped and under exposed mind? You should know that phenomena is not STATIC. Every hopeful and optimistic heart and mind envisions better days and the attainment of some sort of nirvana in one dimension or medium or another. Understandings of all things by all beings, in particular your once upon of time foe is a universal desire because the objective is to stave of conflict and strife which a full understanding by all guarantees this outcome. This is to say that it should occur to you those who would be casting their votes on such a referendum are beings from nearly four generations later. Which is the reason there is a discussion about the matter to elevate and convince all of “they.” A bit harsh generalization to degrade any “they” of lacking honor and respecting (sacred) “covenants.” Hardly reconcilliatory and extremely counter productive rendering your very mission a tragic act in futility.

            3.) “…those who oppose the Arabic language are Ethiopians…” is also a logical fallacy. You are presuming or excluding any or all Ethiopians from favoring Arabic to be an Eritrean Official language. You see, it maybe to the best interest of Ethiopians the Eritreans the would be conduits of trade and commerce between the upwards of five hundred million of Arabs north of Eritrea and the hundred million Ethiopians south of Eritrea. So it is possible you may be totally wrong what an Ethiopian would desire for the official language of Eritrea.
            Your argument of relegating the Tigrigna Eritreans as Ethiopians and your intended or implied goal of the solution you envision is so very weak and a very dilute compound with absolutely zero flavor or aroma. One could think you are in the employ of KSA and or the GulfState Sultanates laying their early land claim they intend to reclaim one way or the other and that Hamid Al-Arabi is actively participating in the act of depopulating Eritreans. You may have a clandestine oath to Dictator Isaias, PMAAA and their Gulf States plus KSA sponsors and their secret agreements. If you are not, at the very least you are gladd to hear of the current migration rate of Eritreans. For instance Dictator Isaias is happy to be in Arab Atire as he embraces the Eritro-Sudanese Rashida Arabian figure in a recent Gedab article. Could you Hamid Al=Arabi perhaps be that very Arab embracing Dictator Isaias happily in the photo.

            I suppose now all I can do is await for you the very civilized make it clear to me how uncivilized and underdeveloped I am. No in the meantime I will continue reading,

            This presentation of the topic and the numerous parallel discussions feels like an invitation to fight when there is absolutely nothing to fight about regarding the issue. You know like some one walking up to you and saying “hey dude come on! Lets fight like we are supposed to! When a fight is far from your thoughts and you utter HA?

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Solomon,

            If we want to be respected, we should respect the rights of others. Who are those who prescribe for us what to select/choose? Self-respect is very important, or they will be responsible for any reaction. I hope the message is clear. I don’t have enmity with any person. I welcome the whole world to join Eritrea without the intention of cleansing pure Eritreans and erasing history.

            Al-Arabi

          • Ustazz Hamid Al-Arabi,

            I fully understand and OVERStand in full agreement. Otherwise we would be the Morans in oxymoron to be afflicted by xenophobia. Our agreements tend to outweigh greatly our differences. More common grounds to the surface, InshAlah!

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE