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Correcting the Focus of Eritrea Focus

An “Open Letter” by Mr.  Habte Hagos of Focus Eritrea was sent to awate.com to express his disagreement with our Gedab News report titled, “The London Conference Stirs Controversy” regarding the “Building Democracy in Eritrea” conference that was held in London on April 22-24, 2019.

The following is Awate Team’s response to Mr. Habte Hagos’ letter of in which he accused awate.com to have “chosen to make ill-informed and incorrect assumptions about what took place [the conference].”

Our response is not meant to impugn the character or motive of neither Mr. Hagos, nor the participants, or the organizers, or the funding sources, or anyone else associated with the conference because we believe the overwhelming majority of the invitees are well-meaning.

1.The Trigger

Just after the social media backlash from the Eritrean public, especially the youth within the “#Enough #Yiakl #Kifaya” grassroots movement, several participants told us they regretted attending the conference. However, we believe many are unaware of the controversy and in hindsight, they would feel the same way we did. So, what was the controversy that prompted us to write the report or even pay attention to the conference?

2.Questions Raised by the Youth

First, we believe Mr. Hagos should take up whatever bothered him with the BBC Tigrinya reporter, not with awate.com – the messenger. Better yet, he should take it up with the youth activists who posed live-stream questions to the BBC stressing ‘enough is enough with the divisive conferences that are tearing our society apart.’

Therefore, we were neither ill-informed nor have we made incorrect assumptions.  Importantly, the item in question was not an editorial, but a Gedab News report informing our readers about the important and controversial questions raised by the youth.

3.The Conference’s Purpose

When the BBC-Tigrinya reporter asked Dr. Bereket Habte Selassie to explain the purpose of the conference, he said, “according to the organizers, the purpose was to answer the question of whether democracy works in Africa, and if does not, what are the reasons for its failure.” As a reaction, considering that BBC Tigrinya has wide coverage in Eritrea and Ethiopia, the Eritrean regime’s propagandists pounced at Dr. Bereket Habte Selassie’s remark and run with it to suggest that Eritrea is not ready for democracy.

Furthermore, confusingly, Mr. Hagos’s letter stated that “the aim of the conference was to look ahead to post-Isaias rule.” Two paragraphs later, he said, “the primary focus remained marking the start of ongoing dialogue relating to democratic reforms in Eritrea.” We do not know which one it is!

4.Representation

The issue of representation was raised in the same BBC interview and not by Gedab News, though in many of our editorials we have written extensively about representation, an issue that has bedeviled the Eritrean oppositions for the several decades.

In his letter Mr. Hagos admits that the conference was not inclusive as he had wished it to be.  He then added, the Conference Planning Working Group met regularly for 5 months trying to increase the Muslim participants, but fell short of the 30% it initially targeted. He didn’t explain why he thought 30% would be the target, but at the same time he acknowledges that a perfectly inclusive conference would have been 50:50. Does the Conference Planning Working Group think Muslims make up 30% of the population?  We hope not, because only the Agazian hate-group is capable of making such a false claim. At any rate, we found out the selection was drawn from a list of  a very narrow social circle and that there was a lot of nepotism involved. Worse, even Christians from certain regions were either underrepresented or excluded.

The failure of the Conference Planning Working Group to organize an inclusive conference after trying for five months raises many questions. Why didn’t they change their approach? Then, what qualifies them to organize such a conference when it did not occur to them that the youth have to either go to school or work on weekdays? Were people declining the invitation because they did not like the fact that only 30% of Muslims, women, and youth were initially targeted? Perhaps, since the conference was not publicly announced for, and they might have feared criticism for attending a secretly organized conference.

Knowing that 3 out of the 16 of the Eritrean presenters or moderators were Muslims, didn’t the organizers think people will want to talk about the elephant in the room? Or, knowing ahead of time that the conference will not be inclusive and still holding it was damaging the Eritrean fabric as some of the youth alleging?

Today, Eritreans are once again fiercely fighting to assert their sovereignty that is being assaulted by Isaias, the neo-unionist, and the expansionist Ethiopians. Is it possible that some participants withdrew from attending when they realized that 11 of the 29 presenters were non-Eritreans, for fear of being perceived as ceding the Eritrean sovereign right to chart their own path towards democratic change, to others? The optics do not look good at all — it is already being used as a propaganda fodder by the regime’s supporters.

5.Qualifications

Many of the participants, whom Mr. Hagos refers to as professional delegates, are not known in the Eritrean academic, or professional, or activist communities.  This made us curious to find out what criteria were used to qualify the participants.  And except for the single press release, no information was publicly available about the conference.  However, now that the conference program was made public, we still do not know the selection criteria.

Without mentioning names, and with all due respect to all participants, we believe the vast majority of them are not ‘high caliber and world-renowned Eritrean and international speakers’ as Mr. Hagos would like us to believe.  A modest participant told us that he was embarrassed by that characterization and remarked, “it is just a marketing hyperbole like the press release stunt aimed at an audience of one: the donor NGO.”

The conference would have benefited immensely from the many qualified Eritreans who were unfortunately excluded for partisan reasons. They would have provided competing ideas, dissenting views, and broader perspectives; not wanting to hear opposing views is a PFDJ culture and should not be practiced in our public discourses.

Eritrea has plenty of its own well-qualified experts to help it make the transitions. They possess the necessary subject matter expertise in the process of transformation and other aspects of governance–they are capable of addressing all the challenges their society faces, and they understand it better than anyone else.

6.Transparency

The Eritrean public knew about the conference the day it started. And since the organizer was Eritrea Focus, an entity that is a newcomer, we needed to know more about it. But to date, its website does not list its board of directors or management team. It says that it files annual and financial reports, but we are still unable to find such reports anywhere–Mr. Hagos’ letter failed to disclose where such reports are filed or how they can be obtained.

In short, Mr. Hagos’ letter missed an opportunity to put the transparency issue to rest by not disclosing the names of the Conference Planning Working Group. Doing so would have shed some light if any of its members had a checkered past of engaging in exclusionary practices, or in nepotism, or in peddling wedge issues in the Eritrean society. We believe it is the right of every Eritrean to be aware of individuals known for engaging in such undemocratic practices–it’s the obligation of awate.com to inform.

7.Misrepresentation

Just as we call out the PFDJ’s and the opposition’s blunders, we also reported that Eritrea Focus issued a press release falsely stating that Ambassador Haile Menkerios would be the keynote speaker. We wondered why the organizers would start a conference with a false statement, especially when the stakes of losing the trust of the Eritrean people are very high!

Mr. Hagos’ letter does not explain the reason for the false advertisement that can be easily exposed on the day of the conference, when he knew the Ambassador was not attending.

According to our source, Eritrea Focus was notified on April 2, 2019 (three weeks before the conference) that Ambassador Haile will not be able to attend.

We would also like to emphasize that we stand by our reporting, and we firmly believe Gedab News has done its due diligence in gathering the facts from multiple sources, and corroborating them directly by the Ambassador himself.

Finally, Awate.com has been around for close to two-decades and has published thousands of news reports, analysis, and editorial pieces by adhering to a very high professional and ethical standards. It has not earned its reputation as a reliable source of news by ‘choosing to be ill-informed and by making incorrect assumptions.’

However, since we were told that Mr. Hagos is a recent retiree who finally decided to be part of the Eritrean political activist community, we would give him the benefit of the doubt–he does not know anything about awate.com and how it has been operating for many years. We suggest that Mr. Hagos use this experience as a learning moment, assume personal responsibility, own up to his rookie mistakes, and take time to learn the ropes first before coming out swinging with some wild accusations.

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  • Nitricc

    Hi all: I am really embarrassed for the Ethiopians as well as feeling sorry for them. there is UN memorandum that says workinh Gebeyho was fired from his UN post due lack of English language. In the UN memorandum didn’t even addressed as Dr rather it says Mr Workneh Gebeyehu. What an embarrassment. I have always said TPLF greatest crime in Ethiopia is, TPLF has destroyed the educational system completely. At one point PMAA expressed that 87% the doctorate holders in Ethiopia is fake and bought from China. in other news Addis Abeba police declared that couldn’t control the crimes in Addis because the SAWA trained defectors are no much for them. Allegedly; the sawa trained defectors are too advanced and very organized to apprehend them. I knew it and keep saying that the defectors are no good. If they were good, they wouldn’t defect. Well, now it is Eritrea’s problem but Ethiopia’s. I have also read in Mekkele and Adi-grat the crime is too high. I wonder those too are the sawa defectors. The good thing is all the criminal Eritreans are out the country.

    • Paulos

      Nitrikay,

      It is probably fake news. One goes through rigorous process before one gets that kind of coveted position and it doesn’t make sense to fire him due to lack of proficiency of the English language. They must have established his proficiency or lack of it during the interview for the job including his CV.

      They should try Gedu Endargachew or Osman Saleh as in “What you call.” 😂.

      • Nitricc

        Hey P; It could be but what i saw was leaked internal memorandum of UN memo. i wish i could share the link but you know awate rules. In my opinion; Workineh was appointed to the UN as favor to PMAA. PMAA was getting a lot of grif for holding on to Workineh in power structure. So, probably he wasn’t vetted properly as rigorous as he should have been. By the way; have you ever heard him speak in english? he got his education from Ethiopian civil service so, i can see why the news might be true.

        • Paulos

          Nitrikay,

          Valid points but it is not fair to judge him based on his not so impressive speeches. That said however, I have serious issues with people who claim to be Ph.D’s particularly those who were granted the degree in Ethiopia. They s*ck!

          • Nitricc

            Hey P; i agree. The Ethiopian education is compromised. What do you think about Addis Police report regarding the Sawa trained organized criminal activities. The police said they are overtaken by skills of the Eritreans and Ethiopians of south African returnees. do you buy that?

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            I don’t follow what is going on in Ethiopia and if I do, I sometimes read Addis-Standard. What’s going on with the returnees?

          • Nitricc

            Hey P: there are many Ethiopians who are returned from South Africa during PMAA coming to power and they are executing the criminal skills they learned in South Africa. According the Ethiopian police they have become unstoppable in crime and illegal activities. At least from what the Addis police said.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            That is bad! Can’t believe the country is falling apart including the ethnic tension and the displaced citizens. Sometimes I wonder if Abiy understands the magnitude of the sh*t the country is in. I guess the guy is day-dreaming.

          • Nitricc

            Hey P: i am following the Ethiopian change very closely. As i can observe, what happens in ethiopia it tends to happen in Eritrea. You know how TPLF split and the same thing happened in Eritrea with G-15. so, my take is there is a lot of lesson to avoid all Ethiopian miss step during this change. You know change is inevitable in Eritrea, so there are endless lesson to learn. We must be careful. for sure Ethiopian style chnage is not for Eritrea.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            I happen to have slightly different reading of the “supposed” change in Eritrea. I am still not convinced if change is around the corner or coming anytime soon.

            Certainly, I am not discounting the “Yiakil” movement but as long as it is limited anywhere but in Eritrea, it may remain as such. I sure don’t mean to “rain on the parade” so to speak but it is imperative that we have to be realistic. In my opinion, Eritrea is a military institution and change can only be effected if there is a lasting crack with in the institution. The other possibility that I see is that, Isaias under strain and external pressure may call for a reform including a dialogue with the Opposition. Other than that we need to have a serious reading of what is actually on the ground bereft of emotion and feel good news flashes.

          • Nitricc

            Hey P; make no mistake; nothing remains the same and change in Eritrea is invertible. You are right at the face, change seems impractical but PIA will surprise you, that is my belief. if not, then, PIA will make the worst mistake of his life, there is a limit for everything. He can not rule this way forever. My advice to you is stay toon and get ready to be surprised. The UAE investment magnitude will entice every concern Eritrean. May 24 is the day.

    • Blink

      Dear Nitricc
      My question is why do the report even mention sawa ? What does sawa has to do with a crime committed by no one rather than their own . Addis is the capital city of crime and I don’t know how crime becomes a news item in Addis now .Any Tigrinja speaker criminals can’t be sawa guys . I believe this game is old and trashy.

      Addis was always a crime headquarter and it will continue to be like that. Eritreans living in Ethiopia are an asset ( foreign capital is generated because of many Eritreans) , the addis mayor should openly thank Eritreans living in Addis.

  • Bahri

    Blink,
    Saleh Johar keeps throwing cavalierly the word “bigot”. Soon it will lose its sting. I would say “naTa Kedifas nay Hamata”. Besides why is it an issue who starts something as anyone, any group is free to associate and discuss and find solutions that may free us from Isaias mendacity passed as governance. If that was the case, Idris Hamed Awate would not have started the Eritrean resistance to the emperor if he had to wait for “diversity” of his troop to reflect all Eritreans. He started the revolution with associate he was familiar with and the rest is history. If I had to guess the composition of his fighters was one and the same. No one blames him for that. You start an idea, movement and what have you with people you associate, and the associates will associate with others before you know every strata of Eritrea is on board (the YeaKal movement is an example) by fixing real and imagined problems. If we don’t resist the dictator soon we are doomed, as too many people and groups are in love of sludging the past whenever someone starts something. I am not saying the Focus is perfect and the only way. Saleh can start a better conference if he could and I certainly would not blame him if he gets us sooner to our goals than Focus or others. He sees NGO’s money as haram money- let us face that is part of the game with advantages and disadvantages. Besides Eritrea revolutionary movement was bankrolled from across the Red Sea as there was no other source. You have to get it from somewhere as long as it doesn’t distract you from your ultimate goals. The NGO’s have their own goals and the recipients should have fiduciary responsibility to use it for the betterment of Eritrea and Eritreans. If you know they are mis-using expose them but it has to be based on facts and not generalizations. Dismissing all NGO one and the same is untenable. We have to look forward with an eye to keep future leaders not to stray and abuse us, when if they become one, but now is not the time. The time now is to remove the unelected dictator by whatever means. Just do it. Enough for virtual sophistry.

    • Saleh Johar

      Bahri,
      My dear, the moment you start to compare Hamid Idria Awate with the dellalas, you lose the argument. The Sudanese have a saying, alli Endu Hurgus, berahu yergus. Take it easy. Sorry, I am off.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Bahri,

      Glad to see you have changed the tone of engagement. This entry is calmer and more sober than the first one I read yesterday and provoked me to respond by way of a kind of testimony about Awate.com and its managers.

      Having said that, I agree with you that it is within the right and capabilities of anyone or group to start initiatives regarding the ongoing struggle for the sake of relieving our people from the destructive one-man plus enablers despotism. But, we should also not lose focus on post absolutism harmonious order we aspire that guarantees national unity that rests on coherent legally sanctioned government institutions.

      Solutions we book at the present, on the one hand, and on the other, mistakes we make shall definitely determine the quality of an order we shall have. That is why we have to carefully watch and scrutinize our steps and initiatives while we can and have time. Transparency and openness will our gates to inclusiveness which in turn will permit us to balance and counter balance participations on levels of constituencies.

      Hence, the point to make is that there is no problem with initiative taking. The problem is how open we are to checks and counter checks on many aspects. Expediencies and needs of the moment should not over shadow our attention to the kind of gains we project to harvest down the road. We should take risks that could lead to unhealthy succession. Thus, sources of solidarity in funds and public relations should not be limited to need of the moment at the expense of the future. Today’s politically imbued generousities and grants using NGOs as conduit could be investments governments make in order to have footholds to influence and orient post change conditions of nations towards their strategic interests, which when their peoples resist become advance posts to create internal strives and conflicts. We have watched many instances in regions not far from our shores.

      Moreover, to add a final word, in regard to allusion to the great Hamid Idris Awate as point of comparison, I think if you would take moments to reflect on the time and circumstances today and at that time, I would like to believe you would figure out the comparison between was misplaced. I do not know how much you are exposed to the history of Awate’s time and the obstacles involved. Those heroes did not have the luxuries wr have today. But, we should as citizens of independent Eritrea celebrate Awate’s wisdom, broad patriotism and sense of accommodation or inclusivity when he advised and warned that the mission he and his 13-man unit had embarked on would not attain its goal without their brothers and sisters in the highlands would not join hands with their compatriots in the lowlands. History had proved him right.

    • Blink

      Dear Bahri
      Remember some people have been investing in Ethnic and religious politics for almost 40 years and anyone who challenge their color is an enemy. Can you imagine these people thinks one ethnic one vote and then divide it in to two religion , you can see how it is being setting up. It is simple like 10 ethnic votes and then divide these 10 across religion and you will find 9 against 1 then they call this 9 against 1 becomes a majority.

      Their maths is not really illogical and that is why they run to religion and awuraja. I believe the future of Eritrea will not be safe at such scenario. They need to be challenged at every corner and call spade for spade .

  • Hope

    HELLO ALL:
    Here is an excellenet Summary by Prof Tesfa Ghebremedhin,who used to be in a midway lane.
    “JOINING THE YOUTH IN SUPPORT OF ‘ENOUGH IS ENOUGH’
    MOVEMENT”
    Dr. Tesfa G. Gebremedhin
    MESKEREM.NET

    • Gerogee

      Hi H

      1. There is no mid-way. Mid way is for cowards who hang until they find opportunity to show there true colors. Prof. Was always against Eritrea Gov. he was to afraid to come out of the closet.

      Kind of like you always switching teams on a dime. Hope who are you? Are u the guy from Gonder when you are at NAZRET.COM an Ethiopian website?

      I wonder how do you decide who you gonna be on a particular day? Flip a coin? Consult your Oracle ?

      Have a wonderful night

      • Hope

        Georgino:
        Please,read the EXCELLENT and FACTUAL Analysis by the GOOD PROFESSOR.
        Dude, why would you care about Hope’s ID or origin?
        Didn’t Itell you that I was/am an Yellow Card Holder X-PFDJ?
        Ytrty to be mopre Catholic than the Pope.
        A Midway Path is a Non-Partisan,Neutral and Independent–Minded people’s path;not a Flip-flopper’s path.

        My nick has been abused many times.

        oAm fully aware about the Ethiopian Hope.

        u But am NOT an Ethiopian dude but an ORIGINAL and UNSPOILED Original Eritrean …

        If U want me to be more specific:

        cAn original Kerenite,Wed Gash Barca Abay and Bilenay Tsaida…a son of ELF and EPLF.and a hybrid of Muslim and Christian Families.

        aA prototype Eritrean, if you wish.

        nHow about that Georgino or is it,Georgeeeee?

        tHope

        • Gerogee

          Hi hope

          Listen ask simple question, what really changed in Eritrea to make the professor you talk about from, being neutral 2 jumping CIA sponsored regime agenda called Yeakil? You keep throwing that, I used to be “pfdj” card-carrying member. Like I’m going to be impressed. There is nothing that would indicate this movement is organic or owned by Eritreans.

          But there is ample evidence, which by the way I will never reveal to you, this is highly orchestrated regime change agenda by enemies of Eritrea.

          If you don’t believe me and you are a bit of computer savvy. Do yourself a favor create an account in YouTube and put us some video that is anti Eritrean government. You’ll see the people that the IP address. Or if you see the Twitter accounts most of them have been opened recently.

          Out of all people you should know this is highly suspect movement Peter you should never accept something without even verifying.

          Finally the London meeting admit it they received money from CIA! I want you to prove me wrong! National endowment for democracy is not CIA! Prove me wrong. That’s your homework now

          • Hope

            George:
            Read what I said about the ENOUGH MOVEMENT:
            I repeat what I told Berhe.

            “If the YeAkil Movement is spoiled by external forces specially by the TPLF,am out”!

            But if we own it exclusively and coordinate it with unity and a centralized Leadership,am on it and for it!

            In fact,I believe it is,and will be,the last and the best opportunity for Eritrea and Eritreans to get out of the MESS we are in!

            Remember that we have gone thru unheard of obstacles and interference from within and from outside for over 60 yrs to the extent of going thru a deadly civil war when the largest Liberation Movement was completely destroyed !

            My point:

            Every and any movement we create for good will be faced with tons of obstacles from within hand from outside ,and those obstacles should NOT hinder us from moving forward .

            The CIAs,The Mosads,the M16s,the Muslim brotherhoods and the Wuhabis as well as the Weyanes including the Dr Tram Lemmas will definitely will infiltrate us but it is cowardly to make such excuses and blame those entities and thereby make us perpetual victims of the status quo!

            Enough is ENOUGH!

  • Bahri

    selam tSAtSE,
    According to Awate Team, the center of Eritrea’s universe should pass through Awate or at least get their blessing; otherwise it lacks legitimacy. Ali Salim whatever his moniker name was must be well and alive as their bean counter to even raise such an issue as their major argument to diss the conference. No wonder Isaias is playing the Eritrean people when you have friends like Awate Team well and alive. Guys instead of splitting hair like tSAtSe said why don’t you accept Habte’ s apology and his promises to be more inclusive and learn from their mistakes. Give him the benefit of doubt and try over. Get involved instead of being Monday morning quarterback analysts by scripting an opinion her and there on a website. How many Eritreans have access to website to read your opinions, and if they do have good command of English to participate in your discussions. Not in Eritrea and in the majority of the diaspora locations. Obviously writing on a website is not going to dislodge the dictator; it may help but is not going to be decisive. PS: I don’t know Habte or any of the organizers, know anything about Focus; I am not a Christian either if that matters to Awate as their lens is too focused on such issues.

    • Saleh Johar

      Bahri (and Blink),
      I am off today and I have all the time, and the urge to engage.
      1. “How many Eritreans have access to website to read your opinions, and if they do have good command of English to participate in your discussions.”

      2. Bahri, if you are not Christian, you are going to hell. I might as well tell you that, now. Who cares what you are? You care about religious iedntities, talk about it politely. Do not insinuate any of the issue was about religion, it was about BIGOTRY. And bigotry focuses on religious identity. In Tigrinya we say, natas mother-in-lowa.

      For one, you are reading and prejudiced people are mostly the educated who lead the innocent astray. So, you are a target and our job is done as far as you read it. BTW, was the conference in Tigrinya or Saho 🙂

      3. For Blink: see how “Ali Salim” comes as a catchphrase to attack you-know-who? Could you tell the veiled bigotry contained in that PFDJsque comment veiled as innocent.

      • Bahri

        Saleh,
        The level of depravity in terms of your “team” has no bounds. It’s just insane as you claim I am a ” target” of what? Because I commented on your self-serving narrow identity focus. I am neither prejudiced nor lead others astray as everyone, I hope, knows how to guide their affairs to safe grounds. I am done as your so called engagement is full of loaded put-downs like bigot, hell, prejudiced, PFDJsque..boy you can load so much feather weight in a cucinetta.

    • Selamat Bahri,

      Served many tours and in the trenches in defense of Awate when the attacks were relentless. We held the Salihien, Saleh and Saleh, in high esteem as our leaders in the resistance against the PFDJ and dictator IA. The battles were fierce and many were won by those in the trenches. The Pencil or the editorials were of top notch quality, balanced, principled and respectful. No divisive insinuation like you see in this current editorial. No flip flopping like the huge difference between Negarit 27 and Negarit 41. (see for yourself by searching for the videos in “search” above)

      I suppose these phenomena exhibited at Awate of late are further proof that “absolute power corrupts absolutely.” The same attacks that the PFDJ and IA utilized on Awate1.0 we are observing Awate Team or Awate in general is now utilizing the weapons on Eritrea Focus1.0. The elevation and high respect of the Saleh’s may have been affected negatively with the migration of SY to Eritrea digest. With out the balancing input from SY the sole SJG is of the belief that he can say and do anything he wishes regarding Eritrea without any one to check him. And his negative campaign against a formidable up and coming Eritrean organization, Eritrea Focus, is at a time when Eritreans are on the verge of switching from #Yiakil to the critical and dangerous phase of Hazo Hazo. I suppose SJG and the AT as well as Gedab News and Negarit have not received the memo that nearly all Eritreans have received.

      Well, here is a quote from somebody very familiar to Awate to remind them of what time it is:

      “We will isolate lying, scheming Isaias Afeworki. We will separate the security services and the armed forces from him. We will reduce him to the status of Omer Al Bashir.” Saleh AA Younis on Eritrea Digest.

      Eritrea Focus is a significant force that adds to the preponderance of Eritrean Resistance over the crumbling regime’s support base. Yet Gedab, AT, Negarit and old out dated republished articles have been attacking Eritrea Focus relentlessly by fomenting fire amongst Eritreans utilizing the dangerous divisiveness along religion and region.
      By the way I am not at all affiliated with Eritrea Focus nor have I ever had contact with them. Though I am considering it now because had they not been a force to reckon with we wouldn’t have seen these hypocritical relentless unfounded attacks by AT, Gedab and Negarit.
      I am asking Awate to take immediate corrective measures and consider the over all Eritrean dilemma instead of exhibiting jealousy. New leadership are bound to replace old leadership. Don’t you think?

      “Annabiba YaEi TTefioUna. MtSmam diyyu MitSimamm knegruna” Wedi Tikabo – Wediboy TeAre, nmeArare

      nmeArare nmeArare nmeArare nmeArare

      tSAtSE

    • Paulos

      Selam Bahri,

      I am still not entirely convinced if that is the case either with AT or Aya SGJ but let me say this: I specifically remember the day Awate was launched and I have read every article that was written either by Aya SGJ or Saay since then and every time I read their respective articles, their confessional belief never crossed my mind for I saw in them only bona fide Eritreans with serious concerns about Eritrea and deep care for Eritrea as well.

      Equally, my reading of the recent conference was with in that scope in mind and I find it disturbing if any concerned Eritrean focuses on head count based as in who was invited and who was left out instead of focusing on how we collectively move forward in post tyranny Eritrea where ethnic or religious divide lose any meaning. I trust Aya SGJ read the intent of the Conference as such.

      • Saleh Johar

        Paulos,
        Thank you or the testimony. Now let me asnwer your concern.

        I dis not see it through an identity lens. I explained enough that my Shro (not beef) was over my disgust of the so-called activists acting like mercenaries. If there are no funds, you will not hear from them at all. My message has always been against the NGO corruption. That is my position that I reached after watching it play it for so long. If people read too much into it, I am sure there is nothing I can do but explain the mater over and over again. Unfortunately a few people have already made up their mind, and would not listen–I let them be except when they cross the line and become disrespectful and dishonest.

        Thank you again, now please take care of HaileS for me 🙂

        • Paulos

          Selam Ayay,

          Are you saying that the only reason they called for the Conference was because of the funds coming from the NGOs? Don’t you think that is a bit of a cynicism in tandem with generalization where it is unfair to put every person who was part of the Conference in one basket?

          If I am not mistaken, years ago, you penned a rather scathing article directed at one of the recent attendees [won’t say his name] where you came down hard on him along the lines of your recent take on the NGOs and don’t you think it is rather unfair to paint all of them with the same brush when the intent of the others could as well be genuine and they had to rely on external support to call for a Conference for it was perhaps beyond their financial means?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            I have no issue with the invitees. I jam just appealing to anyone attending such conferences to make sure about the negdet before they attend. My target is the “democratization” cottage industry entrepreneurs.

            Thank you for remembering my position on NGOs. But that is only one article you remembered, there are many of them.

          • Paulos

            Ayay,

            When I said, I read almost every single article, I wasn’t kidding and I remember 😂.

          • Paulos

            Ayay,

            I admire your courage for sticking to your guns but it could be missing the forest for the trees so to speak and the regime can use it for a propaganda ploy as a serious schism with in the Opposition. Methinks.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            I agree with you on the propaganda part. Yes, I mentioned that. And I thought about it and had to make a decision, I chose what I thought is the lesser evil. I know a little bit about forests–from Tarzan movies 🙂 When a few trees get sick, unless they are taken to a hospital to be seen by a doctor and cured, they will infect the rest of the trees, then the forest becomes a desert–that was a cartoon movie 🙂 I am hoping it is either Botany or Zoology 🙂

          • Paulos

            ሰላም ኣያይ,

            ክኢላታት ናይ ኣውደ መጽናዕቲ ቀላሚጦስ ወይካኣ ኦማት ብሓፈሻ፣ እንተዳኣ ሃልዮም ኣብመንጎና፣ ሕማም ተላገብ ኣብ መንጎ ኦማት የጋጥም እንተደኣ’ኾይኑ መብርሂ ክህቡና ተስፋ ይገብር፣ ‘ተዘይኮይኑ ንታርዛን ክንውከሶ ኢና።

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            You are asking me a tough question, . Remember how children answer 1+1=2 easily? Then you ask, how about 2+2?
            Me too! eziaa aytemharkwan. Anything that is not in a cartoon movie, ask HaileS.

            Ismail, you provoked me to get even with HaileS. I learned how to type in Tigrinya in a flash, and this is one of my favorite childhood songs. My peers would ask me to sing it and I would ignore them until they beg more, then…

            ኣፋ ኮረመሎ ከናፍራ ወርቂ
            ኣብ ልበይ ሓዲራ ከም ጥርመዝ ኣረቂ
            ተራራተረራ ተራራ፣ ተራራተረራ ተራራ

            I didn’t know (still I don’t know) what that meant. You called for it 🙂

            Now let’s read Burhan Ali’s article… and please welcome him back..

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            Ok, from now on any question, and anything related to 2D including “Family Guy” will be directed to you and anything in 3D will be for Haile. But if Hailat says:

            ክላ ማሓረና
            ጊዜ የብለይን ነዚ ናትካ
            ገዛ’ዶ ባራካ
            ዚንጎ’ዶ ታኒካ
            ኣትክልቲ’ዶ እንስሳ
            ሓምሊኣድሪ’ዶ ኣምበሳ

            ዓለም ኣበይ በጺሓላ
            ንስኻ’ግን ከም ሓደ ካላ
            ኣብ ኣግራብ ሕማም ተላገብ ኣሎ’ድዩ
            ክትብል ጻሓይ ዓሪባትካ

            እንተ’ይሉኒ

            ሓወቦይ ምራጭ መጺኡ’ሎ
            ካብ መገሻ
            ይፈልጥ ይኸውን’ዩ ብዛዕባ ሕርሻ
            ተዘይኮይኑ ንብርጭቆ
            ፍልጦ ይህልዋ ይኸውን
            ሕማም ተላገብ ኣብ ሻምብቆ

          • Selamat Ayya Saleh Johar,

            I am not necessarily pestering you. But supposing I just woke and am asking for what is rightfully mine, i.e. information you hold that is detrimental to the survival of my life time struggle for Eritrea, then you are obliged to provide what you are withholding.

            It should not and can not be only and only YOUR target. No single individual should possess such great influence. I recall you being an entrepreneurs but then again I did not know there was such a thing as cottage or dairy farm industry. If there are rules to playing the game then you must be consistency in adhering to the rules of the game. The time is now for creating an Eritrean National Assembly which has been missing in Eritrea for nearly two decades. The contents of the research papers and the road map to the way forward must be discussed thoroughly. It is beneficial to all
            that absolute mutual respect must be the attitude. The representation issue can be resolved with in month. It is up to every body now to identify the most efficient road with the most reasonable leadership. Let us see you lead by showing all of us what is the right was to hand off.the relay stick or SHig.

            tSAtSE

        • Haile S.

          ሓደርክስ ሳልሕ፡

          ኣንታ ሳልሕ፡
          ጳውሎስ ትልእከለይ፡ እንታይ ገበርኩኻ
          ሓንጎል ገናጺሉ እንዳወጠረ ኣድኪሙ ንኣኻ
          ኣነስ ይትረፈኒ ገለ ካየውጽኣለይ በጃኻ
          እዚ ዘይዝክሮ የለን፡ እምሕል እንካ ስጋኻ
          ኣዒንቱ ኣለወን x-ray ዘርኢ ዓጽምኻ

          ካብ molecule ናብ black-hole እናነጠረ
          ሓንሳእ ሴፍ፡ ሓንሳእ ክንቲት እናዓተረ
          ካብ ጽድቂ ናብ ኮምሳርያቶ ሓማሴን ምሳይ እናተዛወረ
          ካብ እሳተ ሄርታሌ ዝጉዓዝ ኣንታርክቲካ ናብቲ ዝቆረረ

          Superman ዶ ክብሎ ሳሬት-ማን
          መልሓሱ ሃነን ዘብል ከም ኣብራር ዑስማን
          ስብከቱ ዝጠዊ ካብ ጸጋም ንየማን

          ልኣኮ በል ካብ በልካ፡ ሕራይ ኢለ ክቕበሎ
          ድሓር’ክኣ –
          መብጽዓ ኣለዎ ክጋብዘኒ ፍሪታታ ጥቓ እንዳ-ፈርኔሎ
          ተጸሚመ:-) ክሰምዖ እየ ናቱ ፊሎዞፍያ ናቲ ኣውሎ

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            You are something! I am certainly not worthy to take care of you as Aya Saleh put it which is hard to say no to his Excellency.

            This may sound a bit insensitive but the reason I am desperately looking forward to Isaias Afwerki’s exit is not so much so that the people can enjoy the freedom they deserve among other perks of life but most importantly you and I can finally chill munching on ፋታ and flushing it down with ድቋ ስዋ along a series of hard core topics ranging from ሃለቃ ገብረሃና፣ ማሪቆሳይ እምኒ ምስ ሕምባሻይ to Philosophy, Medicine, Hard Sciences, Mathematics, and Arts as in Cubism, Impressionism where I can’t wait to tell me more about the latter two in particular. Till then stay well my brother.

          • Saleh Johar

            HaileS,
            Gziekha tetsebe. I am learning how to type Tigrinya faster and then kerkbelka eyye 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saleh,

            This is from childhood memory when my elder sister was reading us whatever she finds in the newspaper (ኅብረት)፡

            ቾምበ’የ ቾምበ ቾምበ
            ሉቡምባ’ስ መይቱ ጊዜኻ ተጸበ

            May be those who were adults at that time remember this journalist or columnist.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Haile S+ SJ,
            ሉሙምባ ሉሙምባ
            ሓሪዶምኻዶ ከም ባኒ ከም ዱባ
            ውን ይሕውሰኾ ነይሩ። ክገርመኩም ኣነ ኣብቲ እዋናት ፊደላት ትግርይና ኣይፈላጥን ነይር። Neighborhood children to shout the verses. As it was a kind peer fashion, every one had to say what others said. I just thought it was a January (ወርሒ ጥሪ) song. Later on, I knew what it was about. Lumumba’s death was associated with the cause of independence and colonialism. Haile Sillasie was friend of the latter, while Gemal Abbulnasser liberated his country, and will help Eritrea become independent that was awaited every year in September.

            The curious thing was as children and early teen age group, we used to anticipate every September to come with independence of Eritrea. Later, I thought it was associated with the annual session of UN General Assembly. I think elders used to chat about those things and children stealthily spied what was said and reported to their peers. The interesting thing in retrospect was the elders exchanged in whispers and their children sang in loud voice

            Now, Haile and Saleh, were your worlds the same as mine? I mean Asmara residence quarters and Keren La’alay, Geza Wereqet etc.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Ismail,

            Thank for the additional lines on Lumumba. On tiptoeing our elders and fathers, it was pretty the same in Asmara. In celebrating the heroes and damning the villains we eritreans (probably others too) go far beyond our boundaries. The poems on Lumumba is a perfect example. It became a household thing that everybody repeats for years exactly like the …. ኣደ ንጉሰ ኣዴና ኣይትኹና፡ ወደን ይሕረድ ንሰን ይቑነና … ንጉሰ’የ ንጉሰ, እዛ ዓለም ብላሸ.
            The waiting for September is a generational thing. I think it was not known to my generation. I became aware of freedom fighter because of my uncle when my mother was saying ሸፊቱ፡ ወዲ ዓወተ ወሲድዎ and then the ‘ሽፍታ’, those getting hanged in Edaga-Hamus livestock market. The phenomenon sunk well in my head when one day our daring junior history teacher said, the Mozambique liberation movement is known as FRELIMO and Eritrean liberation front as ELF.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Bahri,

      Opinions posted under false names are seldom taken seriously. That is at least what I do; they just remain virtual as their authors. But some times, in ill-considered strive to stunt meaningful debate, they go out of the way to step on faulty or loose ground and drop to the bottom of a black hole of fallacy. It’s at this points that they provoke response.

      Now, to the point in case. Bahri claimed that Awate is a hegemon, AT is an ally of Isayas, found a jargon in accounting (bean counter) to recall poor Ali Salem in an attempt to score a point, and most outrageously volunteered to tell her/his religious affiliation. This person has unwittingly testified about what Awate.com and its team are not and not have been. If they were, Bahri would have come up with burden to sell the exact opposite of what he/she claimed. She/he would have argued that Awate is not a hegemon, not sectarian and Ali Salem as well in an effort to establish Isayas is not a hegemon, and actuall a super literal. Fortunately, we have sensible people in this forum. Thanks Dr. Paulos; you have also spoken for many of us.

  • Blink

    Dear awate
    Bayto must be feeling the best thing from such article then .

    • Saleh Johar

      Blink,
      Accusing people of bigotry is a grave allegation. Such allegation should not be thrown liberally. So, I feel they may be feeling good. In fact, anyone who is victimized should feel good. We should all strive to defend the wrongly victimized without context.

      • Blink

        Dear SG
        I am assuming both sides are in competition. Assume that bayto is 70% Muslim . Bayto are not yet being given the same mirror too. Whom is victim more and why ?

        SG , bigotry !! Which part of my comment is bigotry ? Bayto is a political organization and there is no way someone can protect them from anything what so ever . Do we know the source of their financial backers? How is that bayto being given a pass in awate editorials?
        Taking sides will not help remove the religious steins. Awate editorials is taking sides as well as playing this awuraja game which is too old to give fruits at this time .

        • Saleh Johar

          Blink,
          I didn’t say your comment was bigoted. Please read carefully. The context is the bigotry that has become so prevalent you can’t miss it. Do you know 90% of the insults I get is bigoted–since I started to write? Why do you think that is? In the comment I made, I was just airing my frustration with the bigots, and I thought you could be of some help. Was I wrong?

          • Blink

            Dear SG
            No way , I do not see any benefits from a white men and a unionist mix just as anyone. I don’t picture Eritrea in that religion thing but I admit these Christians and we can say these Tigrinja speakers are in majority every where you go around the west and for that there is no way we can escape their numbers what we have all to do is assume we own it and ask for more transparency.

            How do you think if Eritreans in Sudan get their conference and what will be the numbers between the two religions ?
            SG , yes I know that bigoted thing and it is not new to you , you can’t clean it either because sometimes things complicated . But this editorials is simply digging more and it is possible people will see this as taking side .

        • Hope

          Ahlen Ya Gen Blink:
          “Dear SG
          I am assuming both sides are in competition. Assume that bayto is 70% Muslim . Bayto are not yet being given the same mirror too. Whom is victim more and why ?”.

          Spot on.Thanks for reading my mind.

          While I respect him and his relentless efforts for Justice,i attempted to give him some feedback in my own capacity but he will attack me or ban and or call me with nasty names and present me as the worst person in this forum and he successfully achieved to be perceived as such in this FORUM.

          Am glad that Tsatse is ” challenging and confronting ” him.
          I NEVER EVER seen or heard Ustaz Salih Ghadi Johar openly apologizing for his mistakes,to my best recall and knowledge.
          He rather is quite FAMOUS in criticizing every entity that come out with new ideas and projects and calls those Projects ” Summer or Winter” Projects,when they do not agree with his Agenda or ideas and he dictates things like the god of gods.
          He joked about me when I asked :
          -For a Compromise..
          -To forget and forgive
          -To be constructive
          -To be INCLUSIVE
          etc…

  • Haile S.

    Selam AT, tSAtSE & Awatawian,

    Where is this hair splitting of the splitted hair taking us?

    ኣነ ትምኒተይ ከም ብጻይ ሃብተ
    ድሕሪ ጡረታ ክብል ታተ
    እግሪ ሃብኒ ስንበተ
    ክጎዪ ከርክቦ ንዓወተ
    እንተተዓንቀፍኩ ተቐበሉ ትጉሽተተ
    ኣተዓናቓቕፋይ ይትረፍኩም ምቁማተ

    ኣነ ትምኒተይ ኣሪገ ሸምጊለ
    እንተ’ተኻኢሉ ከንቆልቁል ንሓልሓለ
    …. ወይ ከስተምህር ወይ ክጓሲ
    …. ምስ ቆብዐይ ካብ ዝተርፍ መሲለ ግሩም ፈላሲ

    ኣነ ትምኒተይ ይምሕለልኩም
    ትትረፈኒ እታ ዋንጫ ዘለዋ መንበርኩም
    ሒዘያ ዝነበርኩ ዱካ እውን እገድፈልኩም
    ጥራይ ንእሽተይ ቦታ ሃቡኒ ኣብ ማእከልኩም
    …. ምርጋሕ ገዲፈ ዘሳፍሓላ
    …. እሺ እናበልኩ ዘገልግለላ
    …. ቅድመ-ሞት ጾረይ ዘራግፈላ

  • iSem

    Hi AT;
    “We would also like to emphasize that we stand by our reporting, and we firmly believe Gedab News has done its due diligence in gathering the facts from multiple sources, and collaborating them directly by the Ambassador himself.”
    If I am not mistaken you mean “Corroborating” and not “collaborating”

    • Selamat iSEM,

      Yeah the quality of Awate Team’s editorials seemed to have been degraded a lot.
      Or may be it is just a fraudian slip as they are “collaborating” and “obstructing”.

      I mean AT is in agreement with Georgee???????? Whats next? Ykhdenena!

      tSAtSE

      • iSem

        Hi Tsatse;
        Well, we should thank AT for its two scores of years of information and dedication. Our hats should be off in deference. You know, I attribute it to the English language e and the modern spell checks that in its attempt to be to help full does not do a good job, if you have typed corroborate the checker may think you mean collaborate. So absolutely it has NOT been degraded.

      • Saleh Johar

        TsaTse,
        I am dying to know the reason for your change of attitude and your non-stop punches. I wish you could summon some sense and control your rants.

        • Selamat Ayya Saleh Johar,

          It is simply a case of: what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
          There are numerous discrepancies with your stance regarding Eritrea Focus. You can start by reconciling your Negarit 27: Nairobi Medrekh. Clearly your aversion to funding started after Medrikh or Eri-Platform refused to share the funds.

          Also, wouldn’t you think that in Eritrea several ideas or strategies to overcome the oppression would arise as opposed to just one. Some accept their plight, some vote with their feet and some will organize and resist the oppression. Why is it hard to believe that Eritreans in Eritrea have the capacity to organize and resist? Any how, it has been far too long since I accepted fully or gave the benefit of the doubtt to your every word. Time to develop wisdom my own and become as influential, if not greater, as the Great Gedab Ghadi! Jay Gatsby as the protagonist in GG pails in comparison to the GGG – The Great Gedab Ghadi.
          Just think of me as Pip from Great Expectations.

          tSAtSE

          • Saleh Johar

            TsaTse,
            When you start to comment on issues that you do not have any knowldge of, it is irksome. In short, I can challenge you on this: “Clearly your aversion to funding started after Medrikh or Eri-Platform refused to share the funds.”. My friend, it is only clear in your foggy thinking. I challenge you to prove it. Otherwise, it will not go as smooth as you might think. For the first time I am sking you to retract it or prove it, fair game.

            Also, please remember I am capable of mocking and pocking if that is your preferred manner of debate. I just do not want to go there with you. That should only happen when people forget to take their doses. Stop being disrespectful. We provide an open forum for anyone to express their views with respect. That should not be mistaken for an open license to be irresponsible and insult anyone here. My advise is this: if you fall for every gossip you hear, don’t expect others to do the same. Express whatever you believe in a civil manner. Otherwise, as the Amhara would say, Ezzam bet essat alle. Your mocking can create a domino effect. It is only I don’t want to go there, and I am begging you to help me stay civil. My name is clear, Saleh “Gadi” Johar, any combination of that would do, memorize it and reread the posting guidelines.

          • Selamat Ayya Saleh Johar

            “My friend, it is only clear in your foggy thinking. I challenge you to prove it. ”

            “Hiji genzeb terkhibu, genzeb terekhibu kem gele ile kheA feliTTe”

            “Ezen genzeb suQue iiLen kiTefeA…”

            You can start this Negarit 27 on December 7th, 2018 at min 3:10

            xxxxxxx

            If the link is removed than you know where to find the Negarit 27.

            My understanding is you were asking Medrekh to share the funds. I may be wrong in presuming Medrekh refused to share. May be they did share. And then on April in article, another republished article, then on Negarit 41 and finally with AT editorial your aversion or scrutiny of funding is very vivid and for all to see.
            So, again I ask you: Did your aversion to NGO funding begin after Medrekh refused to share? Because you clearly, unless you have a twin who parallels you Negarit show, are soliciting Medrekh to share funds in this video.

            I truly believe respect is mutual and I do have respect for you and all. I am merely pointing out the unprincipled and dangerous stand you are taking with your attacks on Eritrea Focus. You are utilizing divisive issues that in reality aren’t there. All Eritrean groups have every intent and purpose to be inclusive. I will further break down the latest AT editorial as well as Mr. Hagos’ Response to “An Open Letter” and do a teleological comparison:

            Teleological — Relating to or involving the explanation of phenomena IN TERMS OF THE PURPOSE THEY SERVE rather than OF THE CAUSE BY WHICH THEY ARISE.

            tSAtSE

          • Saleh Johar

            Tsatse, weHaTyo entebelkuwas….

            “So, again I ask you: Did your aversion to NGO funding begin after Medrekh refused to share? ”

            Share with whom? Listen again but do not carry your prejudice when you do that.

            Than you do it again, stop sloppy observation if you wish to be credible.

            “You are utilizing divisive issues that in reality aren’t there.”

            Fisrt, I knew elements like you who would like to brush issues under the table, not everyone is like you. And everybody has the freedom to express their views, unless you think I do not have that right.

            Second, what is divisive? Why be driven by your ready-made perception? The issue was NGO interference and you disappoint me, you have not been reading me as you claim, maybe you were not understanding what I say–sorry, I do not speak gibberish. Throughout, I have always written against NGOs and that is my topic. Furthermore, you can fall for any glimpse of ray but don’t expect all to follow your emotional reaction–you have proved to be an avid exponent of diving without studying the matter.

            Third, I never disrespect any one, not you or anyone else. But I do know when to respond in kind, to shake the callous who think I humanly impossible tolerance. Just remember that and again, be respectful and clear. Do not ask me about issue you cooked in your head–I am not privy to that and I do not want to be. Don’t ever assume you own the truth, learn to be humble when expressing your views because they are only yours. Ranting and being disrespectful will not convince me. Make a point without stepping on my toes. That is all.

          • Selamat Ayya Saleh Johar,

            “Share with whom? Listen again but do not carry your prejudice when you do that.”
            REALY! “with whom” is your wiggle room? Very disappointing indeed.

            No need to listen again and there aren’t any prejudices on my part to be carried anywhere. Your little wiggle room exit you found is very disappointing. You were advocating the sharing of the funds with whom ever. Though I can deduce from the video you weren’t soliciting for the sharing of the funds with your favorite charity. It is clear you were pleading with Medrekh to share funds with the ENCDC. You are still considering the NGO funds as good genzeb or Halal so long Medrekh shares the funds; yes I know share the funds with the ENCDC.
            How is a layman like me going to go further and proof that Saleh Johar Ghadi receives kick backs for being the broker of a deal. In the same video you tell your audience that you were privy to seeing 200K, 300K, 400K Five hundred spent all over the place. Would you care to give some examples?
            Hence, what’s good for the goose is good for the gender.

            Any you are very wrong about folks like me wanting to brush things under the carpet. My friend, the Tokhrir Muslim Eritreans now suffering horror in the Sudan, their DenQeb gated Kanshelow encircled my Kanshelow in Hilet Sudan Teseney. With regards to Eritrea an Eritrean with a christian name could possibly be a much better spokesperson or carer for Muslim Eritreans. The reverse is also true. I do not even consider myself a christian or a highlander. I am simply an Eritrean and all Eritrean issues concern me equally. It matters not at all also from which religion my representatives come from. If the Eritrea National Assembly is composed of entirely Muslim Eritreans, then I would feel as if I am represented. If it is composed of entirely Christian Eritreans then I would also feel represented. So long the representatives are Eritrean I have no problem with it. Their competence and the content of their leadership is what matters. Sorry SJG, I happen to be one who hasn’t been contaminated to think with divisive means. As long as their leadership is just and adheres to the rule of law and the representative is Eritrean then his or her religion does not mean anything to me personally.
            I do not waste precious time uncovering which Awraja each invitee to the London Conference hails from. Like the Awate Team did when they told us the invitees to the London Conference excluded christian regions. I challenge AT to prove it just like I gave proof when you challenged me.

            Sure you have every right to speak your mind and heart. I have fought tooth and nail just like you for freedom of speech. How am I different than you when I am speaking what I understand with civility and rational arguments.
            Speak on oh Great Gedab Ghadi. There is a political reason why you are being challenged. No on is showing you disrespect. I just trust my faculties to comprehend certain things better than the average person, that’s all. No need for you intimidating posture.

            tSAtSE

          • Saleh Johar

            TsaTse,
            Using your own justification, “How is a layman like me going to go further and proof that TsaTse is not mentally unstable”, for example. If you cannot prove anything, you do not throw it into the air. That is called decency and honesty. It doesn’t mean since you cannot prove something you take the liberty to make wild allegations. TsaTse, if you are feeling remorse for any positive step you took towards awate.com, please let me know. There are many people who can volunteer to make that right. We do not sell free rambling, think again. And I am not enjoying this hallow discussion with you. This is my last comment and please stop it at that before you do more damage to the sanity of the forum. Adios.

          • Selamat Ayya Saleh Johar,

            I proved that you were okay with Eritreans utilizing NGO funding. You were okay for Medrek to share their funding with ENCDC. You pleaded with Medrek to share the funding with their poor brothers. There is a video of you speaking the very words I am using coming out from your mouth. You were for the use of NGO funding only six month ago on December 7th, 2018. The video is Negarit 27. Now in April of 2019, less than a six month later you are lecturing about the evils of NGO funding.

            So maybe your contradictory stance on NGO funding or your outlook about NGO funding changed as a result of something else. Maybe Medrekh had no influence on your change of stance with regards to NGO funding.

            Nice try, but the layman tSAtSE is about proving whether or not Saleh Gandhi gained personally…. I can’t possibly prove if you deserved a share of the funds after successfully securing funds for the ENCDC. AAsha’s deHan Allo, Zemed Gasha iyyu kefiOuwo zello.
            I am doing just fine and am mentally very stable. The reason I am challenging you is because of your current propaganda and attacks on Eritrea Focus can be catastrophic for the overall Eritrean cause.
            DeHan bruH aytishaQuel bzaEba snAemurawi TTiEnai. Zeyy Nayy Eritreana gudday iyyu PTS do mi ti es sheQuelqel n liEli Eisra Amet geiruley.

            tSAtSE

      • Ismail AA

        Selam tSAtSE,

        Lately, when some of us started to celebrate for pulling you from cryptic to plain
        language to benefited from you views, tenacity and overzeal seem be robbing us from the best of you, and in your. Anger is sworn enemy of virtuous and resourceful persons. It began from the time you came up with the issue of “Hizbawi Tegadlo Harnet Eritra” and the passionate debate that there was in this forum.

        Now, to the point that pushed me jot these lines. I also saw the typo error when I first read the item; but passed it because raising it would have made me feel petty. After all, I know some of the gentlemen at AT are authors of books in the English language. Hence, your comment here reminded me of a funny anecdote that happened in Eritrea Festival hall in Kessel, Germany, some years back amidst a hot debate when some participants out there slided to petty matters instead of focusing on the main issue. One of the panelists was Mr. Hussein Khalifa whom up that point in time I new him for not speaking the Tigrigna language at all. He surprised us when he retorted by saying ” እንታይ ኢኩም ካብ ጣንጡ ስብሒ ክተውኡ ትፍትኑ”. It was a witty remark that brought back sanity to the debate.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Ghedab News,
    I have received an unverfied tip that Eritreans in refugee camps of the Kessela region are being attacked. Their stay-in camps are being burned down. Could you check out for the authenticity of otherwise this disturbing news and inform the world for possible intervention if true?.

    • Nitricc

      I have received an unverfied tip

      Hayat; Digital weyane at its best. why do you care?

      • Selamat Nitricc,

        Hayat cares because a wedge seems to be forming to divide and weaken all Eritreans. She sees an opportunity to add fuel to the fire. On the one hand you have the refugees in the Sudan composed mostly of Eritrean Muslims and on the other hand you have, as alleged by Awate Team, Gedab and Negarit Eritrean Christian dominated non inclusive group.

        I am probably not coherent above, but you have been following the efforts to invent divides along religious lines amongst Eritreans by the AT. Gedab will oblige the Weyane with a confirmation of Hayat’s Tip. I bet you ten thousand Nakfa Gedab will repeat Hayat’s diabolic tip.

        tSAtSE

        • Lamek

          Tsatse, good observation. Anyone who says the regime in asmara is dominated by Christian highlanders is dishonest and with ill intentions. I am afraid Hayat Adem was hoping the attacks were by Tigrinya PFDJ operatives.

          You know why I like Mahmoud Saleh these days and you also for that matter? Because you guys are making compelling arguments that a large chunk of the opposition are opposing for their own sinister reasons and the basis of their opposition is typically for narrow interests, personal grudges, out of boredom, you name it.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Lamek,
            What happened to you? Honestly, i couldn’t believe you came to 5his this: “I am afraid Hayat Adem was hoping the attacks were by Tigrinya PFDJ operatives.” What a reported was about the victims. How did you know I was hoping the attackers to be from the PFDJ? Why would you take such a risk for no reason? I am so mad at you like i would never be so if it was said by the usual suspects.

          • Nitricc

            How did you know I was hoping the attackers to be from the PFDJ?

            Hayat; I don’t think you understood what you are and how you are perceived. You may think you are fooling the forum participants but in reality you are fooling no one but yourself. So don’t act like you are surprised when people calling you out for what you are, deceptive. Right now you are praying by every language you knew that something bad to happen to Eritrea that will soften the pressure and give relief to your TPLF thugs. Everybody knows that. Since your surgical attack, meaning bombing Asmara didn’t worked out, civil war it didn’t happen and all your evil wished failed, no one is surprised you resorted to refugees in Sudan. What a sick person you are. You are lucky I don’t have time, if not I could have told you as is.

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            What are you doing this time to short of time? If you allow me to guess: it can’t be studying. I am just guessing but if it is, it is no5 0aying off. 8 have onown you for longer 6 years now. Any one who had read your earlier comments would conclude your quality of thinking is degenerating. No one does school to diminish oneself. If you are one of that type, you are unique. There are few exceptional people who strive to excel in stupidity.
            What possibly could make you busy? Of course, you are not doing a voluntary service to our communities. You told me that you are not ready yet. You are too young to contribute to help Eritrea but old enough to discuss complex matters of our peoples and our region here at awate forum. 5his internet world is not called the “great equaliser” without a good reason. It equalises accesses and opportunities. It also equalises people in stupidities and wastages.
            So here we are with an 8th grade kid sharing a forum. It feels like an 8th wonder. And strangely, i feel happy about it.

          • Blink

            Dear lamek
            I am kind of used to flip on people’s own stand and I find you to be the one to change my view about you. You remember the day of the kebesa thing days , I was so so opposed to your comments but lately you are becoming serious for good reason. I like your comments when you have the Eritrean map.

          • Lamek

            Blink, I unequivocally oppose all these incessant attacks on the poor Tigrinya people. They have suffered so much, paid so dearly for their freedom only to be betrayed and now when I see people in these forum attacking them relentlessly, it makes me agitated. It’s like MAGA. It doesn’t have to be explicit but we know what MAGA means for Trump and his supporters. Can anyone go to court and win anything on that? No. Same here. It’s veilled attack.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Lamek; It is a sign of ignorance to talk about religion and dividing people alongside their religion affiliation. I do believe for Eritrea nothing is except to be a secular state. Having said that who do you think suffered more, the Eritrean christens or the Eritrean Muslims, in the last 100 years by all external forces? If you are a just man; you will tell me the truth. I say this knowing you are religious in Christianity. Now tell me the truth?

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hayat,

      The trouble involved communities of different affiliations. I heard the news from a contact there. As you know people like me have families and relatives still suffering for decades since liberation in those subhuman refugee dwellings thanks to the despot and enablers. The feuds, according to my contact, are concentrated in the Gadaref area. The duels pitted the Beni Amir and the Takarir (originated from West Sudan and further west to Chad up to Nigeria who had arrived and settled there) and to some extent the Zubaidi Arabs. The Beni Amir consider the latter two refugees. I heard some lives have been wasted. The unsettled situation in Sudan is contributing by way of shortages of necessities of live trigger passions that go out of hand and cause clashes.

      • iSem

        Hi Ustaz Ismail and Hayat;
        Here we go again. Sudan always played will fire and the chickens are coming home to roost. Sad. Sudan had especially under Bashir toyed with the Eritrean ethnicity bty pitting them against each other and its own diverse tribes. The Felata (Tokarirs) who are said to have come from Nigeria and the Eritrrean community in Tessenai have always had polarized relationship since the Massacre of OmHajjerer in mid 1970.
        The weakened Sudan now will see such attacks and the East shall be ignited again and the victims will be the vulnerable, refugees who have no home to return to and who have not fully assimilated into the Sudan as Sudan plays footsie with their future and some enrich themselves off of refugees.
        Buckle up for chaos and bloodshed in Sudan
        And one of PFDJ now in Ela-Ero, Petros Solomn once asserted that Eritreans are like the Jews in terms of their tenacity and Dr. Aradom once told a ypfdj gathering that they have to be successful like th Jews. What they both forgot it the Jews also search for their own across the globe and bring them home and do not call them some Asian imigrants.

  • Selamat,

    Just to share some examples of the idiotic conjectures, false claims, illogic, implications or insinuations, and lies that are very divisive in the above Awate Team editorial:

    1. “He did not explain why he thought 30% would be the target.”
    Awate Team knows very well of other rational reasons for the low target by the working group. For example, had the conference been organized and held in Jeda or Kuwait any or anywhere in the Middle East, then it would be a target of 10% or 20% or maybe even as low as 5% target for Christian Eritreans invitees to the conference. One of many perfectly acceptable rational for the 30% target. AT should ask and wait for Mr. Hagos to respond instead of digging deeper with the very divisive line:

    2. “Does the conference planning work group think Muslims make up 30% of the population?” Very divisive illogic that is intact impugning or calling into question the honesty of Eritrea Focus and all associated with the London Conference. Awate Team lied when it stated that their response is not meant to “impugn.” Oh how impressive, such a subtle undetectable word to cover all the lies starting from the very next paragraph to the end of the article where AT labels or belittles Mr. Hagos as “a rookie.”

    3. “Worse even Christians from certain regions were either underrepresented or excluded.” Very divisive. Sowing the seed of hatred going forward. An attempt by Awate Team to starve Eritrea Focus from the support it could have from Christian Eritreans. What did Awate Team do? Investigate the Awraja origins of each Christian participant at the conference. A pure divisive lie which Awate Team could refute with proof by providing a list of every Christian Eritrean participant and his or her respective Awraja. The pure lie, until proven otherwise, is simply thrown out there to “IMPUGN!”

    4. “Knowing that 3 out of the 16 of the Eritrean presenters in the conference were muslims, didn’t the organizers think people will want to talk about the elephant in the room?” THERE WERE NO ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM! Pink or another hue hippo. 3 out of 16 Muslim Eritrean presenters is proof of inclusiveness. Eritrean Focus did not declare “No Muslim Eritreans allowed” or “For Christian Eritreans only.” It was not until Gedab News sensationalized the news and created a fake “elephant in the room” and planted the seed and talks of disunity that the talks were steered to hopelessness and differences. Why would the EF organizers think of pink elephants in the room when they intended and planned for it not to be pink elephant in the room?

    5. “Or knowing ahead of time that the conference will not be inclusive and still holding it was damaging the Eritrean fabric as some of the youth alleging?” What a pitiful attempt to lean on the youth. SheQettt by Awate Team to pass the buck onto the latest Eritrean craze, i.e. “The Youth!” Awate Team own up that it is in fact you AT and Gedab that are doing all the alleging and the IMPUGNING against the Eritrea Focus and the London Conference. Inform us Eritrean subscribers of the contents of the conference. Discus the merits or lack thereof the research papers presented at the conference. Irrespective of who said it, it is what is said that matters most. Give us the contents and stated goals and strategies presented at the conference. MtSmam nn MitSimaminn anbibna baElina nkhiElo inna. AyTTef Anann iyu mnbab. If the research papers presented at the conference are “damaging the Eritrean fabric” as Awate Team, Gedab News, and Negarit 42 are alleging, allow for the Eritrean people to judge for themselves. NO NO NO the working people and EF DID NOT BELIEVE THE ERITREAN FABRIC WAS IN ANY DANGER. It is AT, Gedab, and Negarit that hold such and erroneous stand against Eritrea Focus.

    6. And you must be joking when you give credit to Gedab for doing it’s due diligence. Is watching a clip or two of other media outlets considered due diligence these days? What a shame and very poor quality of reporting. I dare the Awate Team to undo, by posting it again, the list of an entire year’s Gedab News items starting fro August 16th, 2000 to August 20th, 2001. Aboy Andu baElom ynAadu! Post it again so I can direct and expose your wicked divisive methods not to mention your editing it at a much later time. Why was it removed? There is not much to be proud of in Gedab News which has been asleep fir the majority of the past two decades. Almost forgotten. The only hight or acme hayeds of yr2000 to 2001 was Information readily available to every one. It isn’t as if the IA was trying to hide his transgressions. Don’t pat yourself to much.

    I can list twenty more lines fringe the above farcical Awate Team’s editorial but people can examine it for themselves. Perhaps I will continue after some rest….

    “Annabiba TefiUona YaEi MtSmam diyyu MitSimam knegruna!” Wedi Tikabo in Wedi Aboy TeAre NmeArare.

    NmeArare NmeArare NmeArare NmeArare

    tSAtSE

    • Ismail AA

      Selam tSAtSE,

      Kindly, these two questions if I may.

      1. Is it possible to make who members of the “Conference Planning Working Group” public? This may answer some of the problems AT had raised concern on, and you are trying to rebut.

      2. Is the EF conference so crucial to the extent its failure or success will determine future efforts toward change in the country? Put in another way, what makes it so special from similar event in the past or even that can happen in future?

      • Selamat Ayya Ismail AA,

        Excellent questions and you certainly may! I have shortened my response and may post the long edited response at a later time.

        1. The London Eritrean Conference and the Stockholm Eritrean Congress is Nairobi Eritrean Conference and the Ethiopia Eritrean Congress a few years later. Only a few years a go, Mr. Saleh Johar Ghadi was involved in pseudo shuttle diplomacy mediating to bring Nairobi to join the ENCDC in Ethiopia. It should be the over all tertiary step SJG/AT/Gedab/Negarit put all his/their efforts and expertise on. That tertiary step is the reconciling and bringing together or unifying Medrekh and ENCDC instead of fomenting religious and regional differences.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the Conference Planning Working Group consisted mainly of Medrekh as well as Ambassador Andebrehan. Where as the Nairobi Medrekh group grew in number and diversity by soliciting, incorporating and delegating some Eritrean scholars in academia, some activists and some “professional delegates” to produce the contents of the research papers as a road map, the ENCDC since their last congress in Ethiopia were hampered by the decision to have their congress far a way from Ethiopia. Time and circumstances forced the change in policy with the negative by products of significant problems in logistics as well as other hinderances. Years after the last congress in Ethiopia, as far as I know, the ENCDC in Stockholm only managed to elect new leadership.

        Just because the Medrekh has a jump on the ENCDC at the moment, it doesn’t mean we trip the progress by creating dangerous fires that will be vert difficult to turn off later. The attitude of “since I am lagging in the race towards a common destiny I should loose hope, give up and burn the whole entire jouney.” “I will do this by throwing unfounded accusations of “religionists” “exclusionists” “regionalist” towards those who produced essentially the road map for Eritrea’s success” These attitudes and antions are very detrimental. The attitude should be to give respect to the work or research papers produced, inspect and analyze them thoroughly and if I don’t find my self disagreeing with the content of the papers, then I should push my organization to work diligently towards incorporating the research papers as mine and ultimately present my representatives to work in units with the Eritrea Focus initiative.

        More detailed and coherent arguments will be forth coming.

        2. The heightened very tense Eritrean dissatisfaction with the regime both inside Eritrea and in the diaspora is the environment the EF has occurred. Any Eritrean initiative for more action that can tip and arouse Eritreans to once and for all rid themselves of the tyrannical regime would be considered crucial at this time. There has not been a more conducive point for Eritreans to deal a lethal blow to the regime.
        The level of dissent and resistance activity being at an all time high makes it more “special from similar event in the past.

        It is akin to the failed ELF and EPLF unity agreement talks in 1978 when both fronts were knocking at the door steps of Asmara so close to declaring Eritrean independence.

        Rather than talk or discuss how much closer Eritreans are the AT are choosing to foment hatred and division with unfounded allegations. Foe God’s sake START BY SUGGESTING THE NAMES OF THE REPRESENTATIVES YOU WANT INCLUDED IN THE NEXT CONFERENCE. IT COULD BE THE New York CONFERENCE OR THE PHILADELPHIA CONFERENCE.
        I will return with what I think are the steps for a win win solution.

        Too tired to have made any sense in my above comment. Hope you find some answers until I return with a more clearer answers.

        tSAtSE

        • Ismail AA

          Selam tSAtSE,

          Thanks for the response. You have answered my question indirectly although I wanted to know who was (is) who literally. That could have told us tell a lot. Anyway, if Medrek was the mover and shaker in the game, why did Eritrea Focus (Mr. Habte Hagos) let itself to become the crucible to take all the heat at the pleasure of Medrek? Why didn’t Medrek do it in its own name as in the past?. So, knowing the track record of Medrek, it does not surprise me the London conference to come out as it did, and Eritrea Focus to struggle and heal the wound it had sustained while Medrek walked a away perhaps looking for another day at another capital city.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            In an interview at a radio station of Minnesota, the chairman of the organization told to his listeners that organization is dead and are ready to be bury it in two months. By that he mean they will transform to a “political organization” from facilitating organization. Just for your information.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Aman H.,

            Thanks for the info. I will look for it after fast break. I do not anticipate any difference though. I saw them acting as political trend rather than facilitating creation of bridges. Perhaps the label (facilitator) could have been chosen as convenient cover for solicitating funds and using them. And, they were successful on that score because they are richer than any group on the Eritrea opposition map. We saw them leisurely funding conferences which others couldn’t do.

            People should not have problem with how, and in what form, the operate. The issue is what program they are out to advocate and sell. Thus far, I failed to find difference between them and the group of General Mesfin Hagos who still reduces the contradiction the Eritrean people have with the regime to household quarrel, and that the mere recall of the 50% EPLF Central Committee and 50% Isayas handpicked appointees Council to session would do the trick of change. He means, snatching the EPLF from the jaws of Isayas will make the Eritrean people’s plight okay.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            Actually, there are from the ex-EPLFites in the diaspora who will fight for the custodian of PFDJ after the despot against those who furnished the name of the organization with the despot. As I heard, some of the main actors of Medrek will not continue with the new born political organization. We shall see how it will unfold with demise of the despot.

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            Did he offere any explanation as to why it was dead. To me was dead on arrival. I do not have problems with the ex-PFDJ founders if they have cleansed themselves, everyone of us is entitled to redemption. But it was not inclusive, it was a draconian and no one stood up to Anderbrhan W when he unjustly unceromonsly dismissed Saleh Gadi. Not Shengeb, not Dr. Tekeste, not even my friend Semere TH, who grew up a victim of EPLF, the precursor of PFDJ and who should have better known the MO of yet to repent ex PFDJ members. But I guess Semere was also blinded by the money talks and since it talks it can solve problems.
            Good riddance, one less impotent opposition to worry about. Also, in a way it is sad that his nation cannot produce potent force with burning desire for justice and truth to stands to the brutal regime.
            We are in for a vicious cyle of amobed opposition, some deliberately created to crate disarray.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem, Ismael and all,

            I think the organization Medrek are given way over importance than they actually have. As far as getting grant from NED goes, it’s a simple forum that anyone can submit following the template and to what purpose. It’s usually in the amounts of 50 K or less and I think, considering where things stand for Eritrea human rights and lack of freedom of expression, I think all organization would qualify and I wish all of them do get the funds to operate the “Resistance” effectivly.

            NED does publish it’s grants and here is what it says with regards to Eritrea Focus, at least from 2018 grant. Since this event that happened is in 2019, perhaps they may have received another grant to hold the conference that we shall see next year.

            The grant briefing seems to state what happened in London conference. But 24,053 is not enough in my opinion to cover the expenses of those who attended and those who present papers. That’s around 1000 per person including flight, hotel and meals..plus may be paying for the venue to host the meeting.

            In any case, I think this event will be forgotten like many others before it, as it lacks the participation of the wide spectrum of the Eritrean public. They should have been better of having video conference over zoom or you could have done so in facebook or google and invite as many people as possible and share it online or broadcast on the Eritrean Satellite channel as well.

            Berhe
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            Eritrea Focus
            $24,053
            To increase cooperation among Eritrean activists in the diaspora to advance democracy. The organization will organize a two-day conference to provide a forum for key Eritrean activists in the U.S. and European diaspora, senior Eritrean intellectuals, and representatives of the international community to discuss democratic reform recommendations and steps required for their implementation.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Berhe Y,

            That is precisely what my second question to tSAtSE earlier today hinted to address. Medrek has so far not demonstrated any better than others. The difverence is simply that the principal functionaries among it have better experience and know-how of sources of funds. Some of them have been around doing funds hunting activities from the days of EPLF aid procuring organs. They know where and when the pastures turn green.

            After the EPLF was recognized from among the Eritrean liberation fronts of the time, and endorsed by the West, all doors to funds seeking were open. At that time, professing commitment to democracy was not priority. Other things that fell in the schemes of strategic priorities of powers were; and Isayas Afewerki was accepted as lead fellow in Eritrea linked with TPLF leaders, which he carried diligently in exchange of undisputed power.

            After liberation, the fund raising schemes were recast as NGO with commitment to building democracy in American way becoming a requirement. The NED is one of the fund distributors, and each country in the West has the same arrangement. We saw their functions in the so called orange color uprisings and the futile Arab spring countries.

            Therefore, their presence and activities in Eritrea’s current affairs may not be surprise to keen observers. I think we will be seeing much of these in future. Just watch who among the Eritrean fund hunters, as well who among regionally big name journalists and researchers, attend conferences and meetings.

          • Selamat Ayya Ismail AA,

            I said “it would not surprise me if Medrekh and or Ambassador Andeberhan” are part of the conference planning working group. I don’t know for sure as I am not a member of nor an invitee to the conference. I am making my educated guess based on SJG attacks on the Eritrea Focus Group by utilizing old articles and his latest video lamentations Negarit 41.

            If you scroll up and utilize the search engine using key word “Nairobi” you will find Negarit article titled “UHURU: An Eritrean Cry for Nairobi” and Negarit 27 video from December 7th, 2018 and other articles…
            I just extrapolated my conclusion of “wouldn’t be surprised if..”from all of the information in Negarit. and SJG’s and AT’s latest concerted attacks on Eritrea Focus. I could be totally wrong and Medrekh or Andeberhan may not have a hand on the London Conference.

            In Negarit 27 video of SJG, we hear him clearly condoning the funding. He clearly thinks Funding is okay or Halal and he pleads with Medrekh to share the funds by helping their brothers ENCDC who do not have money and are under the horible control of EPRDF’s general. See for your self above from his own mouth.
            SJG also worked to bring the two groups together.

            So how is it now that the Medrek group did not share funds, SJG is preaching about the evils of NGO funding? How was it that SJG witnessed numerous times the spending of hundreds of thousands of dollars? Clearly he has lots of experience with funding because in the video he tells us so.
            My biggest qualm is the portrayal of the political group as religion based and exclusionist and Islamaphobes. Because they simply are not true.
            In the end there is lots of missed opportunities because of the campaign of defamation towards the Eritrea Focus group from such a reputable (not any longer) Awate Team, Gedab News and Negarit.
            Time will sort it out and my anger will be justified when these sinister actions by AT and SJG are expressed concisely and clearly.

            tSAtSE

          • Ismail AA

            Selam tSAtSE,

            I am just dumbfounded by the almost sudden eruption and outpouring of anger. It has escalated to a kind of brinkmanship’s debate. I do not think this will help any cause, or enhance our understanding. Debating within tolerable bounds allows criticism to blossom and bear fruit and narrow differences. So, please return to the way the visitors to this forum knew you, and when even your brief absence felt. Every one of us is entitled to voicing views that may not be neccessarily pleasant to others. But I think they should remain germane and kept within the framework of cordial engagement. They should degenerate to accusation and counter-accusations.

          • Saleh Johar

            TsaTse,
            You know nothing of Medrek. If you ask respectfully, you might learn something. But you are going too far, to far for my tolerance level.

          • Saleh Johar

            Ismail,
            I owe you this: two entities are being confused with each other, as our resident nouvo-expert is ranting.

            1)Medrek (currently led by Semere Habtemariam and it is going through a reorganization process
            2) Eri-Medrek, always has been under Andeberhan and still is

            For a brief period, Andeberhan worked with Medrek. I hope this clears some foggy issues as explained by the foggy minded.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            Andebrhan Dr Asefaw, Shengeb, and Haile menkerios (though he withdrew from them) are the founders of Medrek. EFND met them during their establishments in NJ. I believe Eri-medrek is the information wing of Medrek (not quit sure). Otherwise it is Andebrhan who enrol the current chairperson ST as he himself told me.

          • Ismail AA

            Selamat Saleh J.,

            Thanks for tip. I have been engaging with Andeberhan’s group in mind. Actually, I do not know much about Semere’s Medrek. But I think I would be fine if I would presume Semere may prove more inclusive in outlook than Andeberhan. That is just a hunch guess.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Ismail,
            Medrek is the entity that includes Dr. Assefaw, Shengeb, and other people. It’s now undergoing restructuring and outreach. While Andeberhan is engaged in expanding with other groups. The similarity of Medrek and ErMedrek has confused many people, including our in-house expert 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saleh and Ismail,

            You guys are becoming great biologists. Darwin would crave to have you in the Beagle:-)

            Kingdom: Animalia
            Phylum: Chordata
            Class: Eritrawi
            Order: TeQamawi
            Family: EPLFawi
            Genus: Medrekawi
            Species: Eri-medreKawi
            Sub-Specie: Find out ታዊ or Semerawi

          • Saleh Johar

            Thank you HaileS,
            Great biologists? Did you mean to say lab mice, though black? I am so uneducated in biologically composed qne. I will pass 🙂 Too busy with the rants. Maybe Paulos could help; he is your equal in the subject matter 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Saleh,
            No ቅኔ here at all. Not having been serious knowing all our color varieties, I was just amazed about the existence of differences between medrek and erimedrek, thus I jotted those lines. Just ለኸፋ! ኣመል ምስ መግነዝ ከምዝብሃል።
            ንስኻ እኳ ቆርበይካ ናይ ሰቲት ጉማረ
            ንእስማዒል ዝለኸፍኩ ሓንቲ ዘይገበረ 🙂

          • Saleh Johar

            HaileS<
            you are a true biologist. Do you have to see everything under the microscope 🙂 No. The qn is not for me, but for others who might miss it. The confusion about the two has been prevalent for years and as much as I tried to explain the difference, I failed because many have it stamped in their minds and would not be corrected. And there is a gap as big as the rift valley there. See? Even you didn't know the difference and when I try to correct people who are obviously ignorant of the fact, they return with unnecessary side jabs instead of admitting, "Oh, I didn't know".. Would you help and tell those who do that to be humble enough and admit they didn't know. How difficult could that be–saying "I didn't know"?

            I guess you follow Sadghuru (I recommend that, look it up on youtube and you will fall in love with that man) He said, I don't know opens the world to more knowledge. If some are stuck in the I know straight jacket, they remain ignorant. I am sure most of you French people will agree with me, that is the beginning of enlightenment 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selam Saleh,

            ኣንታ ሳልሕ፡ ንሱ እንድዩ’ቲ ጸገምና
            እዞም microscope ዝለመድና
            ቀልጢፍና ንዝመጸ ኣብ ሓሳብና
            ኮፍ ነብሎ ኣብ ትሕቲ መነጽርና
            ንምርምሮ በታ ንፈልጣ ታክቲክና
            ኣግፍሕ እንተነብል ኣጉልሒ-መነጽርና
            እንተ ንጥምት በጥ ኢልና ኣእዳውና ዘርጊሕና
            ከከም ዘይ/እምነትና ንሰማይ ኣንቃዕሪርና
            ኩሉ ከም planetarium ምተገልጸልና
            በል ይኣኽለካ ምምርማር ኣባና
            ሕጂ ተዃቲዀካ ካይተዛርበና

            Thanks, I will check Sadghuru.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saleh,

            Why do you bring the “in house expert” thing? Really you need to say that? Anyway, your info is wrong. Andebrhan was one of the founders of Merdrek. I heard he is leaving them now. But he was the founder of Medrek.

          • Selamat Ayya Saleh Johar,

            It was not the “our resident noun-expert” that mentioned anything about Medrek and them going “through a reorganization process.”

            It was Ayya Amanuel Hidrat who told Ayya Ismail AA that he heard in a radio broadcast about Medrek dissolving itself.

            Wow three Ayya s mentioned in one comment. Triple A. Speaking of TripleA, I am more like a Viejo since I have been munching sugar cubes at Triple A cafe’. Who are you calling nuevo-expert.

            What a kidder you are. I am thinking I have been doing this for so long every single day, I am tired and considering retirement from my full time job of being occupied with thoughts of Eritrea and here you are calling me Nuevo.
            Pardoname pero ahora me voy para oír la Negrita numero 42. Negaría 42. 42 Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy comes to mind. More appropriate to the subject matter you are tackling, i.e. inclusiveness is Doger’s #42 Jackie Robinson. Now that I am tuned for it, I will take leave of you here to go and enjoy Negarit #42.

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saleh,

            Now you evolved from he was not a member of Medrek to he was a brief member of Medrek. My friend he was not only a member for a brief, he was some of the organization. In fact Medrek is the baby of Andebrhan. He was the organizer of their conference in South Africa as well their organizational conference in Nairobi. He was Medrek’s diplomat (in essence) who met with the Ethiopian leaders before their plan to facilitate the thpolitical organization in Nairobi/Kenya. How brief is brief to you in the entire span life of the organization if he was as recent as the last conference in Nairobi? Second, Eri-Medrek was the mouthpiece of Medrek. Their organizational politics was disseminated through the Eri-medrek. That is the fact Saleh.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Emma,
            I would rather not go into your other points because I think you started from a mistaken conclusion: I know whose mind I was calling foggy, certainly not you, even remotely. I never tried to pull you, and that is the truth. I am not sure what made you reach that conclusion, but you are wrong.

  • Selamat,

    Full of lies, insinuations, and a totally useless unproductive, with a sinister purpose or motive is this current “Correcting the Focus of Eritrea Focus” by the Awate Team. It starts out with a lie to the reader.

    The word “impugn” (I had to look up the meaning) means: to dispute the truth, validity or honesty of (a statement or motive) call into question. The AT chose to lie using this word “impugn”, a word the average Eritrean reader does not know, in order for the lie or the double talk not be detected.
    Here is the big lie at the very beginning of the essay:

    The Awate Team tells the reader: “Our response is not meant to UNPUGN (emphasis mine) the character or motive of either Mr. Hagos, nor the participants, or the organizers, or the funding sources or anyone else associated with the conference because we believe the overwhelming majority of the invitees are well meaning.”

    Lets substitute the meaning for the word “impugn” with its meaning and rephrase the above so that Awate Team’s lie and double speak is clear to everyone.

    Awate Team could have said: “Our response is NOT meant to DISPUTE THE TRUTH, VALIDITY OR HONESTY OR CALL INTO QUESTION the character or motive of neither Mr. Hagos, nor the participants, or the funding sources or…….. ….. …. are well meaning.”

    This is at the top, 2nd or 3rd paragraph of the article. Awate Team lied and uses a word to hide the lie. Why? Well the entire article, after AT not meaning to “impugn” or dispute the truth or call into question Eritrea Focus’ London Conference, DOES JUST THAT. The article disputes and calls into question Mr. Hagos, EF and the Conference with more lies and illogic as well as undermining and belittling. Awate Team did mean to “impugn” the Eritrea Focus phenomena as it is evident with the useless and easily rebuttable farce of poor quality editorial. A very dangerous divisive venture AT is unnecessarily venturing on.

    A line by line comparison of the awate front page products by Mr. Hagos and Eritrea Focus against that of Awate Teams will be done shortly because Eritreans can’t afford not to identify the obstructionists and their ill intended campaigns. This very Awate Team article consists of conjectures. All claims and implications will be proven to be false and without proper due diligence. The reader can take the AT to task line by line and it will be done!
    Here I will share a definition of the word “teleological” which will be used on my next rejoinder.

    Teleological — Relating to or involving the explanation of phenomena in terms of THE PURPOSE THEY SERVE rather than OF THE CAUSE BY WHICH THEY ARISE.(emphasis mine)
    As well as two Tigrigna words written with exactly the same geez characters but with two different meanings and pronunciation. The words are: MtSmam and MitSimam, meaning to become deaf and to endure, respectively. Go ahead try and write both words in geez characters. The reason I bring it up is so that I can quote Wedi Tikabo from his song “Wedi Aboy TeAre, nmeArare” which I recommend especially for the Awate Team to give it a listen.
    And I use Wedi Tikabo’s words to send my very own message to the Awate Team:

    “Annabiba yaEii TTefioUna MtSmam Diyuu MitSimamm kinegruuna”
    As if we do not know how to read, they (the Awate Team in this case) tries to tell us whether to become deaf or to endure more pain — is the rough translation. SemiEkum doh AT and Gedab. I ain’t done yet…. If you did not mean to “impugn” then why did you go ahead and do just that. I have a theory which I will share later…..

    tSAtSE

    • Hope

      Selam Solomon:
      Go for it Sellie.
      We have to call the spade,a spade.
      Check what Mekonen-Mokie said below.
      This kind of overt and covert OBSTRUCTIONIST agenda and Campaign should be STOPPED.
      We have to practice what we preach about reconciliation.
      Check those Articles against the “Crusaders” and the EPDP leaders.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hope,
        Dig more but promise to man up and discuss them with honesty. I will give you a bonus.

        1. Only Crusaders will twist that article (I wrote it in Negarit) And here is the bonus for you: I stated (paraphrased) “If someone calls me a Jihadist, I have the right to call him a Crusader.” Now assemble all your hermit friends and come up with your objection to that statement which was the gist of the article.

        If you sway left and right, I will ignore your blubber. Try to stay focused, just for this topic. Do not branch out as you always do. Try honesty for once and I promise to smuggle you into heaven.

        • Hope

          Selam Ustaz SGJ:
          Here is what the Good Doctor,Dr Paulos,the man of Science and Philosophy and Arts, said:
          “If I am not mistaken, years ago, you penned a rather scathing article directed at one of the recent attendees [won’t say his name] where you came down hard on him along the lines of your recent take on the NGOs and don’t you think it is rather unfair to paint all of them with the same brush when the intent of the others could as well be genuine and they had to rely on external support to call for a Conference for it was perhaps beyond their financial means?”
          That has been my EXACT point ALL ALONG…
          Hope you can accept the constructive criticism GRACIOUSLY since it has come form one of “Your OWN”.
          -TOLERANCE
          -RECONCILIATION
          -FORGET AND FORGIVE ,rather than an old styled Tit-for-tat approach

  • mokie berhe

    Salam everyone. I just don’t get it. For the past 20 years, while Ethiopia (TPLF) illegally occupied Eritrean territory and did its best to economically strangle Eritrea, some here immorally chose to base opposition movements in Ethiopia, held opposition meetings in Ethiopia, received financial and military support from the Ethiopia, in their hopes that the TPLF would quickly be able to topple the PIA/PFDJ regime. The same oppositionists are now crying foul on the inclusiveness and fairness of the “Building Democracy in Eritrea” conference that was held in London on April 22-24, 2019. These same people are also crying exaggerated empathy over the plight of Eritrean refugees in Sudan, failing to mention that the ‘No war – No peace’ isolationist strategy of the TPLF, U.S. and U.N. security council body (for which they immorally supported) caused the flight of hundreds-of-thousands of Eritreans and made Eritrea totally unsuitable for spontaneous or sponsored voluntary repatriation processes to take place.

    • iSem

      Hi Mokie berhe: You are mixing up things buddy. First about the illegal occupation of the Eritrean land, this is not as simplistic as you make it here. Most of the land that Ethiopia occupied and is still occupying is Badme and Badme was not occupied in 1998, it was occupied in 1981. Know this fact first. It is elementary. About the opposition’s base in Ethiopia that has been debunked too , not that I am saying they were/are not based inEthioipia, the stigma associated with is stupid because there is nothing wrong with to base in Ethiopia when your country arrests and disappears you. I wish the G0=15 had the foresight to be based in Ethiopia instead of being slaughter in Ela-ero. The good opposition were fighting PFDJ, not Eritrea, get over it, it is old, tired, dumb PFDJ brain washing machine that branded it in your mind. About the crying about inclusiveness, you are correct, many of the opposition are not inclusive, so I see the hypocrisy.
      About the refuges, you are misguided and WRONG because, the cause of the reguee dates back to the Ethiopian occupation when HS burned villages in 1968 and was made worse by Dergi and even made worse by PFDJ attacking Eritreans and the vicious war that PFDJ started and its killing and imprisoning machinery. The occupation of Badmes has zero impact on the refugees influx because of 2000s as Eritreans from highlands and Asmara and other cities are the overwhelming majority and not residents of the occupied land. You guy sing these song and you do don’t learn your lessons when IA just poetically screwed you by not talking about occupied lands after almost a year of his peace deal.

    • Hope

      Selamat Mekonen:
      Spot on bud.
      Hypocrisy or Bigotry at its BEST.
      That is my entire argument for the last 5-10yrs or so

  • Mez

    Dear Awate team,

    Are the research papers, of the mentioned conference, open for the public to read and digest?

    Thanks

    • Paulos

      Mez,

      You gonna have to need pH 1.0 to have them digested. I would suggest HCl double dose 😂.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Paulos,

        The Acid & Base pH’s are not common knowledge to the majority of the forumers.

        • Paulos

          Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

          Obviously, as you can see, I made the comment in jest so to speak and hope Mez takes it as such. On a serious note though, most of the speeches are made available on TV-Assenna.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dr Paulos,

            Yes I listened to some of them already.

          • Paulos

            Professor A. Hidrat,

            I was particularly impressed with Paulos Ba’atay’s otherwise forceful and impassioned speech. Dan Connel sounded kind of a bored Prof. in a classroom.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dr. Paulos,

            Actually, I wasn’t impressed by Paulos. Just listen to him again how he tried to justify as to why they couldn’t made the process inclusive when he attempted to elaborate the Ambassador’s statement he noted as the missed opportunity in early 199. I would like you to check the following statement of the Ambassador and the excuses of Paulos to imply couldn’t have done

            “I would suggest that in thinking about how to move forward, we consider going back to what we could and should have done in 1991 immediately after liberation: Call for a national conference of representatives of the Eritrean people that would decide on a transitional arrangement to ensure an inclusive process of building participatory democracy in the country” [Ambassador’s note].

            Despite at that time they were all in line with the despot’s idea of exclusion, I will give credit to the Ambassador to admit as to what should have done early on 1991. The arrogance for dominance was part of their political cultures. Hopefully, they will learn from the negative outcome of the last three decades.

          • Paulos

            Professor A. Hidrat,

            Certainly, Paulos or Haile including all the others who got carried away with Isaias’ deceitful charm can not go back in time and re-do all the historical blunders but what they can do is be remorseful and own their mistakes and make sure that it doesn’t happen again.

            I think it behooves us to cut them some slack and give them the credit for recognizing past mistakes.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Dear Paulos,

            I fully agree with the overall intent and philosophy that is conveyed by your short comment above. I feel that implicit in your statement, is the desire to promote a spirit of reconciliation within Eritrea’s political community in the diaspora, to counsel that nothing is to be gained by trying to dwell in the past and to urge that we all should assume responsibility for our own actions. All those ideals are to be welcomed and Paulos Ba’atay, Haile M. and their compatriots should, of course, submit to the dictates and requirements of those ideals. No question about that!

            However, I strongly disagree with the notion expressed at the end of the first paragraph of your comment: “… and [they] make sure that it doesn’t happen again.” No, that CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be left to them! In fact, the young generation of Eritreans should make sure that Paulos, Haile and Co. are not allowed even to try to do that! For doing so is the long-overdue and rightful role of Eritrea’s young minds!

            I believe, that my last two sentences are self-explanatory and need no elaboration. But, it does not hurt to, in addition, remind ourselves that:

            a) Most of these personalities joined the liberation struggle when they were in their mid- or late-twenties and most of them have been at it for the last 45-50 years (Of course, we all should be very grateful to them for all they did for their people especially in the course of the armed struggle).
            b) On the other hand, citizens who were in elementary school at Eritrea’s independence in 1991 are now in their early 40s, but they have yet to “prove their worth” as the country’s leaders, officials, parliamentarians etc.!

            Strangely enough, members of the first group remain averse to the notion of passing the torch down to their sons and daughters as they have the responsibility to do. Instead, the same group is resisting change and clinging to power and leadership of the government inside the country, and of the opposition abroad.

            ENOUGH is enough! The time has come for the young generation to rise up and take control of the opposition movement, of the struggle for Democracy & Justice and eventually of the country’s fate!

            Thank you.

          • Selamat YZ,

            Yeah right! Look what the young or youth of their time holding the reigns of power non leadership brought to Eritrea for the past three decades. The abilities and capabilities of the poorly educated non experienced and traumatized Eritrean Youth pails in comparison. The very wise, the very educated and very experienced and more stable and connected Eritreans is what the situation calls for at this moment in time.
            Stop hoodwinking us with the catch phrase or marketing gimmick of the youth the youth the youth. Just a ploy.
            There are three entities currently squabbling for power. The power being the creation of an Eritrean National Assembly in the Diaspora. All three squabbling for it. Do you people even have the capability to see beyond the tip of your nose?
            First ask the value and assets the Eritrea Focus group brings to the table. Tabulate all the pluses and give the due credit deserved first and be thankful for their initiative. Then you can start campaigning for your young Aazz self to be leader.

            I am too Tired to rant…. Are you speaking of the same baEbaAt, yes stuttering and very incoherent youth presenters at these local Yiakil gatherings? They can’t even lead their gatherings effectively. They should be so lucky to have the input and leadership of the older and better educated Eritreans.

            tSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selam Yohannes Zerai,

            It is run-of-the-mill and a cliche when one tries to make sense of the “….passing on the torch to the younger generation….” gets lost in current political discourses when we try to navigate and chart out the way forward in post tyranny Eritrea. To be more precise, I don’t even know what it means to be honest with you. There certainly is a younger generation but there is no a younger generation with a better idea; what we have is a generation burdened with unimaginable trauma which is unable to lead a normal life much less run a nation with complex challenges. That is precisely the reason that, “….pass on the torch…” is a clever phrase or clause designed by a campaign manager in a “situation room” so to speak.

            Moreover, the people in question as in Paulos and Haile et alia were never in power in the true sense of the term. They had been victims like anyone else when they were relegated to run “ERA” or Ambassadorial position where they could have served the nation on par with their untapped or unrealized potentials.

            We need them more than any time in our young history. The choice is simple: Murky sense of judgement drags us to the past and we can not claim to belong to the future. But if we choose otherwise, the only way is to be able to see realities with clarity where personal grudges lose any meaning.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Dear Paul and all,

            Thank you for your rejoinder to my comment. I started putting together a response to the former — a response which I had intended to base not on just argumentation of theories and concepts, but also on hard facts that we need to learn (and which we can verify) about the behavior and collective actions of our young refugee population abroad. But before going far with it, I realized that attempting to build up a reasonably satisfactory response would entail a text that would be exceedingly long and laborious by the standards of written comments. But even that, I believed, would not do justice to the weighty subject under reference here. I could see that there are so many facts, events, developments, etc. on the subject that must be first reviewed if one is to come up with a fairly well-rounded and balanced presentation of facts.

            On account of these observations and considerations, it appeared to me that it may perhaps be more beneficial if I develop my ideas into an article instead. A comprehensive treatment of the subject (which would be possible only in a proper wright-up), would stimulate a much broader discussion on the subject. I have therefore decided to do so and post my product following a couple of others in the pipeline.

            For now, I thank you for the brief engagement.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Yohannes,

            You deserve an appreciation in advance for such a bold and an important decision. I say bold and important because I know it will not be an easy undertaking to reach consensus winning assessment on such a timely and an intricate national matter. Understanding the subject in multiple frameworks – social, cultural, economic, political and human – would help in streamlining the ongoing struggle to enable the vital forces of change possess a what-to-do and how-to-do national resistance program.

            Needless to state, the issue involves a discourse that embarks on relating the past to the present before crossing the bridge with the future destiny and unity of the nation in hand. I think this is the crux of the yet to be settled debate that tends to revolve around (rightly or wrongly) the old versus the new generation dichotomy, and who should sit in the driver’s seat to stir the wheels along the path to Eritrea without a despot and despotism. Good luck and pleasant venture.

      • Mez

        Good day Paulos,

        Are they soooooo worthless?

        Thanks

        • Paulos

          Selam Mez,

          Of course, they are not worthless. Far from it. Some of us may not agree with their politics but what they had to say was a product of a life time reading of the Eritrean socio-political realities and their direct stake in it as well. It is imperative that we pay attention to what they have to say.

          • Mez

            Hi Paulos,

            Now you confuse me.

            Thanks

          • Paulos

            Selam Mez,

            To the contrary. If it was worthless, I wouldn’t have suggested for a stronger acid to digest it with. And thought the word “digest” was funny for I took it literally. My apologies if I confused you.

          • Mez

            Good day Paulos,
            jah if, in some formal way, Awate Team could make the content of the said conference accessible to the forumers, me and you would be the happiest souls.

            Thanks

          • Selamat Paulos,

            Say it again please:

            “….but what they had to say was a product of a life time reading of the Eritrean socio-political realities and their direct stake in it as well. It is imperative that we pay attention to what they have to say.”

            It is self aggrandizement for Awate Team in particular Gedab and Negarit to think they are the authority in reading the Eritrean Socio-political realities. Chirus beAQma tiHugom. Let alone the scholars even I have been reading my entire life. For example there was a time when Awate Team was endorsing everyone to fight the regime in whatever manner they wished to fight the regime. It is strange to see Awate team’s and the regime’s fanatics finally agreeing on something. Sad to see such hypocrisy by Awaate Team, Gedab News and Negarit. Maybe it is a ploy to deceive the regime to paint a picture of a very divided and weak Eritrean resistance UNTIL the imminent surprise occurs. So that the regime does not combat with all means at its disposal to crush the collective initiative and organizing. Give the appearance of being weak, divided and ineffective when in reality your are cooperating with one another to the fullest.

            Yeah… and Sorry… but the rants will continue…

            tSAtSE

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mez,

          The idea as an idea might not be worthless. But if the process was not inclusive the same as of the 1991, the idea couldn’t be owned by those who were excluded. In Eritrean politics there is no “lack of ideas” but all the ideas lacks receptivity because they are cooked in an exclusive manner. By nature Eritreans don’t want spoon feed ideas. They want to be represented in the making ideas.

          Regards

          • Mez

            Hi Amanuel H

            Your statement is interesting.

            It would leave everything in an ambivalent state of affairs. Your inherent reasoning looks “no one wants to listen any one”.

            I wonder where this would take down the road.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            I don’t want to misrepresent my statements. It would have been better to ask as to what I mean by my statement. So instead “no one wants to listen any one” understand and quote me as “no one group want to include any group” to phrase it in the way you phrase it. Because the issue at hand is “exclusion” and not the problem of “listening”. Because there is always listening from inside and outside the process. But to listen does not mean to accept for a variety of reasons.

            Second, I don’t know why your impression becomes my “inherent reasoning” is mind boggling. How did you come to that conclusion?

            Regards

          • Mez

            Good Morning Dear Amanuel H,
            Probably let me stay with my original request and intent. I am asking the Awate Team, if they could make the said conference paper accessible to this forum; for the reason some (like me) may want to read and debate on the content of that conference. I think this is very relevant to push the reform movement forward.

            Thank you for the ohrfeige, that is within the allowable.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Good Morning Dear Mez,

            My critic “is not a slap in the face” (as I found the translation of the German word). Rather my effort was to correct your understanding to my comment. Still I don’t know how you come to know my “inherent reasoning”. Can someone could have “inherent reasonings” by which he/she “weighs in” all issues that prevails in his/her life? I really don’t know. That is why I asked you, with surprise for that matter.

            Regards

          • Mez

            Hi Amanuel H,

            Ohrfeige is milder and “more corrective in nature” like between big and baby brother. You squeeze one’s ear between your thumb and pointer-finger….

            Not as series (and painful) as the “slap”…..

            All is good Amanuel.

            Thanks

  • Gerogee

    Dear Reader

    Notice how Gedeb news inserted a dishonest statement about Eritrea sovereignty being assaulted by PIA. He may have made some silly comments but Eritrea seventies intact. In fact member of the Gedeb news traveled to Woyane Ethiopia unashamedly.

    Woyane is the most Eager and desperate group that is dying to take over Eritrea. Woyane is the most motivated group in today’s Ethiopia that is responsible for the delay in demarcation. GEDBE news will not mention Woyane. Why is that? Any Eritrean can find out the truth about Woyane plan by watching YOUTUBE videos.

    • Saleh Johar

      Gorgeeeee,
      First, Gedsb news is not editorial, it is news.
      Second, could you tell us what was the damage of sanctions on Eritreans.
      Third, a citizen traveling to anywhere is insignificant however you want to make it so. Talk about significant visits of succumb and primordial eagerness

      it’s boring to engage with anyone who starts with Weyane and ends with it. In short, no substance but hyperbole and tired rhetoric.

      • Gerogee

        Dear SJ

        What damage does sanction cost to Eritrean citizen? Are you seriously asking a question or you just being funny? I’m going with the latter. Because if I have to explain that to you oh, then you should never be involved in Eritrean politics. Sanctions are Prelude to war!

        The rest of your comments are not answer Worthy.

  • Peace!

    Thank you awate team,

    Can we say “Don’t kill the messenger” at least till we know the alleged NGO and its motive to organize and finance such divisive conference at this critical juncture? If the man is rooky, what happened to Dr. Bereket Gebreselassie a well respected scholar with immense experience, and expertise? ዓገብ ክብል ዘይክእል ሽምግልና: ምህሮ: ተመክሮ: ንዛ ሀገር ዘርበሓ ኣይመስለንን::

    Where are the “SO WHAT” group? Let’s hear what they have to say!

    Peace!

    • Gerogee

      Hi peace

      National Endowment for democracy (NED) is the NGO that finance it. NED is CIA. What else you need to know?

      • Peace!

        Hi George,

        Still that doesn’t help clarify the contradicting report as to what was the true purpose of the conference. The point is that a conference that requires aggressive exclusion to succeed should not be neglected as a work of roomy individual.

        Peace!

        • Gerogee

          Dear P

          You’ll are one guy in this website that live up to his nickname! Let me clarify myself. The meeting was paid for by CIA! That should be where you stop to analyze. That is where you stop asking questions. That is where you start asking for clarifications! I know it is Sunday, you probably want to enjoy your time with your kids, I know you mentioned a few times you have kids. When you get bored and you want to grow out gray hair look it up. National Endowment for democracy is CIA!. That is no more conversation on this topic off of London meeting. It was not a meeting it was a plot to reverse Eritrean sovereignty! If you notice in the last 15 years right before they topple a government there’s always a meeting in London. Syria Iraq and Libya