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UAE-Eritrea: Strained Relationship

Last June,  a small ship arrived from the UAE carrying relief aid for Eritreans in Dankalia. However, the Assab port authorities denied the ship entry to the port and it couldn’t berth at the Assab docks. Its captain decided to stay offshore where the ship threw its anchor and waited for few days until the UAE and Eritrean authorities could resolve the problem. Apparently they didn’t and the ship sailed to undisclosed destination with its cargo.

The Eritrean government has downplayed the dire situation in the Dankalia region where the people are still living on the edge of starvation since early 2020. Many have trekked to the refugee camps in neighboring countries while some of them crossed the Red Sea heading towards the war-torn Yemen.

As soon as news of the suffering of Dankalia was spread, diaspora Eritreans launched an aid and awareness campaign on social media to publicize the plight of the beleaguered region.

Meanwhile, since the beginning of this year, the relations between the Eritrean and the UAE governments has been straining due to differences over regional policies concerning Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, and Libya.

In the first week of August 2020, diplomats from the Arab Gulf made an unannounced visit to Asmara where they met Isaias Afwerki. They left Eritrea on the same day on a private jet.

The UAE has a naval base north of Assab where it had hastily built an airbase during the height of the war on Yemen. The base lies in the center of a five-mile radius security-zone which is off limits to unauthorized personnel. The security area has been hampering free movement of the Danakil fishermen who depend on the sea for their livelihood.

In a related news, Eritrean sources said that the UAE has made indirect contacts with several opposition leaders. The opposition sources added, “…the contact is still in its embryonic stage and it is not yet clear what the UAE’s motivation is behind the overture.”

However, while some elements of the opposition suspect “the gesture is probably to put pressure on Isaias Afwerki,” others suspect “the UAE is trying to broker a deal between the Eritrean government and its opposition.”

In 2018, the UAE and Saudi Arabia were instrumental in brokering a deal between Abiy Ahmed, the Ethiopian prime minister, and Isaias Afwerki, the Eritrean president. But two years after the deal was signed, nothing has changed on the ground.

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  • Dongolo

    Selam Haile S. You have advocated food assistance to Red Sea Afars even though they were a terrorist linked organization armed & financed by the TPLF. Do recent signed alliances between the TPLF and Afar Opposition groups aimed at attacking PMAA as well as Eritrea cause you to ponder a bit? Concerned Afar groups are under one umbrella and are essentially one and the same.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; there is a proven and extremely reliable method for measuring once IQ, commonsense and value. That is if you believe there are any reason, value, validity and necessity then you are dumb as garbage truck and stupid sub-human. So, observe people who are salivating over this BS election and take note their stupidity being proven.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Nitricc,

      “….measuring once IQ, commonsense and value.” Have mercy! What is this.
      The BS election you are talking about……is it the U.S election or Tigray election you are talking about?
      Something sent you ballistic, I wonder what it was.

      Mr. K.H

      • Nitricc

        Hey Kim, I see why you are wondering about my comment. there is exchange in Tigrigna between the the digital weyane, namely Aman-H, the fake and stupid wanna be engineer and KS, they think the TPLF thugs are having credible election. How stupide can one be to believe that the thugs are carrying out an election? Yes sir, you must be one who is paid and sell their wasted life selling for the highest bidder. I have no idea why they are welling to sell their soul to the dying weyane, oh money, free tickets and few dollars could do that to you. worst they are old and few years left. They are human garbage. That was my reason for my comment. They think, the losers and paid agents that TPLF thugs are having the real election, how stupid can they be?

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      private nitricc, the sole-cell 55 yrs old man,
      If I have to guess a group of people with lower than 50 IQ would be hgdf followers.
      Reason: they can’t think of themselves. There is nothing lower than that.

      • Nitricc

        Fake engineer; how old are you? you keep saying i am 55, so what? this shows’ how stupid and ignorant you are. You are the first as-hole tpo ever declare that you are an engineer. It is amazing how low self-esteem you have and low life bottom feeder you are. Now, i will bet with my life, you are not an engineer. simply put smart people never say they are smart, professional people never openly declare their profession openly and barge about it and most importantly, Eritreans are humble because even if they are educated, they now they were educated at the expense of the others. You are nothing but as-hole and loser who us busy looking for confirmation. You are nothing but TPLF thug who serving the digital weyane pretending to be Eritrean. F-off A-hole.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    Listen this interview one of the specialist on the Horn of Africa, especially on the politics of Eritrea and Ethiopia – Professor Kjetil Tronvoll. Enjoy and say something about his perspectives.

    https://youtu.be/S3QwDRctdXk

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Dr. Aman,

      Thank you for the link. Although, I have seen it today— before I open now..But I was more interested after I saw it again, Thank you..

      I highly recommend everyone to open and come discuss it deeply..

      KS,,

      • Selam KS,
        It is indeed very interesting. The professor has brought many important points such as:
        -This is the most conflict prone region of the world, intra- and inter-state conflicts are common,
        -State formation doesn’t seem complete yet in the region. He brought the case of Eritrea, SS, and Somaliland.
        -Ethiopia is not a nation-state but an empire with pockets of ethno-nationalism.
        -Democracy although much needed in the region, it is a slow process that can’t materialize overnight.
        -Changing alliances are a common phenomenon in the region, eplf/tplf and Abiy/IA.
        -The old guards who are the product of the 60s and 70s with their obsolete ideologies, aggressive military solutions in mind, are still in power.
        -Has Eritrea really separated psychologically and economically from the empire, after independence, considering the relations of tplf – eplf after 1991 and the recent Abiy – IA rapprochement.
        -There is a genuine desire from the PMAA and the Ethiopian side for peace and cooperation. In addition, there seems to be a desire by both sides to corner tplf. IA, on the other hand seems more interested in tplf than peace as his primary goal.
        -Badme is part of tigray and it is controlled by tplf than by the federal government. Tigrayan citizens, the erob people, live on the land and consider themselves tigrayans/ethiopians. Tplf maybe going to use badme as a bargaining chip in the future.
        -If tigray is attacked by eritrea, it is a foreign country attacking ethiopia and therefore the federal government will feel that it has the obligation to defend tigray.
        -The federal system under tplf was a very centralized form of government and the constitution was not implemented as it should.
        -The ‘oromo first’ scenario which doesn’t seem to be supported by Abiy, but a pan-ethiopioan identity centralized around ethiopian unity, has brought Abiy in confrontation with ethno-nationalist oromos. There is the fear of recentralization of the government, supported by some and abhorred by others. It is rather perceived as a return to a centralized unitary system, which might not be the case as much as Abiy is concerned, his aim being saving the unity of the country.
        -Broad-base, inclusive political discussion and a genuine dialogue on what Ethiopia should be is necessary.
        -Lack of transparency and information about the agreement between Abiy and IA make nervous eritreans and even ethiopians.
        -If there are eritrean government functionaries within ethiopia or not as there were during the early years of tplf rule until the war, is unknown. Lessons should be learnt from the past so that mistakes are not repeated that could infuriate ethiopian citizens.

        Well, these are my takeaways from the discussion. One could say that these points are well known, nevertheless, it is interesting to know how others understand the politics of the region from the outside.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Horizon,

          Thanks for bringing the distilled version to us. I tried to listen to him but the sound on my computer was so low, or my hearing so impaired I couldn’t continue.

          What the professor is discussing about our region makes a lot of sense. Sometimes, we see things from our own colored prisms and don’t see the big picture. Sometimes, it helps to listen somebody else with a fresh look, without any dog in the fight, to tell us know what he is viewing. He is telling us to expect big surprises as the world turns.

          Mr. K.H

          • Aligaz G

            KH,

            Tronvoll is a disillusioned EPLF groupie who long ago crossed over to the TPLF camp. He has lost any kind of objective perspective about the region because he lives vicariously through the lives of his subjects and even worse he has become just another of the many propagandists making things worse in the region except in his case he is attempting to leverage his “white privilege”. Reminds me a lot of Pateman.

          • EritreanHillBilly

            Hello Aligaz,
            I don’t about him been a groupie. I haven’t read any of his books just watched the interview. From what I have heard from him it seems that he has a good handle or perspective on Horn and its vicious cycle of violence.
            The horn is probably one of most conflict-ridden places in the world. I think Tronvoll from what I have seen gives good assessment of its condition.

          • Aligaz G

            EHB,

            Western guerrilla groupies are part of the landscape whenever third world liberation movement start to gain traction. Early birds gain instant credibility and are set for a life of “expertdom” even if they later fall out with their sponsors. They rush knowingly into a symbiotic relationship with the movement from which they derive meaning and later monetary and professional gain. In turn movements gains a useful entre to sympathetic journalism/spin and later policy makers and even later academia when groupies capitalize with a phd’s. The liberation groups in the Horn are experts in riding this phenomena with the exception of groups like ELF who chose to focus almost exclusively on middle eastern target audiences for sympathy and aid. Dont discount the effectiveness of this phenomenon in setting agenda and gaining credibility. cheers

        • EritreanHillBilly

          Here is my observations:
          What does he say about Gedhli mentality in Horn?
          “Joining an arm struggle in very early age might inhibit your peaceful civilian capacities when you later take power. You think in military terms and military categories then civilian opposition which is an adversary needs to be eliminated and not to be cooperated with or not to reach any compromise with you have a very much more black and white thinking when it comes to implementing politics.”

          He forwards the theory that Ethiopia is an Empire and not a Nation-state…

          Was Eritrea every independent or is Eritrea really independent from Ethiopian empire?

          “The politics from Asmara was always aligned to or designed to be part of Ethiopia somehow or be linked to Ethiopia or interfering in Ethiopia and it was always connected mentally by the leaders in Asmara as being part of bigger whole the empire they were not really fully separated and we saw in implementing policies with the currency issues with the trade issues with a lot of stuff leading up to the war in 1998 to 2000.”

          Is Issias a Feudal lord involved with Ethiopian empire?

          “We see that today that bilateral relations under the new peace rapprochement is not institutionalized it’s still handled in the background is still handled in a very personalized manner between the two big men: Abiy Ahmed and Issias. It is not formalized. It’s not transparent and its not open it is handled as it was handled 100 years ago 200 years ago 300 years ago between the two”

          Is the Peace Process genuine from Ethiopian side?
          From Addis Ababa:
          “If it was genuine peace process both sides should have peace as a fundamental objective of the process I didn’t think that is true. Ethiopia and Abiy Ahmed had genuine interest to achieve peace
          with Eritrea but at the same time also had an interest to get new friends and allies in order to marginalize TPLF from power and to push them back to say to tigray and the new leadership of EPRDF
          at that time they made new alliances within Ethiopia and made new allies in the region. ”

          Is the peace process genuine from Eritrean Side?
          From Asmara:
          “There is still no proof empirically as you say that Issias Afewerki had peace as main motivation no matter how we look upon it his main key and more or less only motivation is ally with new rulers in Addis in order in order to finally crush TPLF and when that is the motive of a peace process. You don’t achieve peace you achieve a new cycle or a new face of a conflict”

          • Sultan

            Selam EHB:
            Your argument holds more water even though it is open-ended.
            If we think it is legit politically speaking to corner the TPLF jointly by both Leaders for what the TPLF has done and is doing,it is unfair to claim or declare that PIA is not for peace but to ONLY corner the TPLF .
            I repeat:
            Politically speaking, it is only fair to “justify” PIA’s efforts to corner the TPLF since it has been the TPLF, which did its best to corner the PFDJ and against peaceful resolution of the problems.
            I know this will create a vicious cycle of creating tension but am wondering what the realistic and practical approaches would be .
            Where are those analysts when PIA and his Eritrea and Eritreans were cornered isolated and contained as well as SANCTIONED to death?
            We know exactly as to who this Prof is and what he had said during the 20 yrs of rough journey of Eritrea and Eritreans
            Why are we glossing /shrugging off and bypassing or ignoring this and blaming PIA and his Eritrea now?
            Note:
            Read the astute Ethiopian observer, Aligaz,below .

          • EritreanHillBilly

            Hello Sultan,
            I am just quoting what he is saying about Issias. I don’t think people like IA care about peace and development. They have Gedhli mentality. I don’t think Martin Plaut or this com mentor put all those Eritrean in political prison or create indefinite national service and run Eritrean economy to ground or close universities…
            If IA cared about Eritrea or peace he wouldn’t be sending the arm to Djoubti, Ethiopia, Sudan, Yemen… he is a feudal lord.. nothing more or less…

          • Abi

            Hello EritreanHillBilly
            According to a very mad mullah, Isu is a denqorocrat. I hope you agree with me:)

          • Sultan

            Hahaha Abi:
            I was tempted to respond to him as such but privacy should be respected and even though I admire your expertise in Forensics and Detective Science and special attentiveness/ attention to details, you should be aware of, as to why people use nicks and change them as needed.
            It is not that much difficult to figure out the way you are doing but people either don’t care and/or out of redirect to others,
            Cheers!
            With due respect.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            I enjoyed playing ሌባና ፖሊስ with you:)

          • EritreanHillBilly

            Absolutely.

          • Abi

            I’m a gobezocrat 🙂

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam EHB,

            If you plant potato, you don’t expect to get tomato. To imagine, even for a second, that Ghedli will usher an era of democracy is pure fantasy and utter stupidity.

            One can see that the Ghedli dinosaurs started wearing suit and tie, and going to offices for 9 to 5 work. But one can tell from their conversations that they are bored with peace and are fantasizing about what they consider to be their glory days.

          • EritreanHillBilly

            Amen… Simon

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ሰላማት ኮኾባይ/ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ
        ዶተረ ደኣ ኣበይ ኣበለ btw?

        ህግደፍን ሃመማን
        ዝምድና ከም ዘለዎም ምእማን
        የጸግም ዶ?
        ኣነስ ከመይ ‘ሉ
        ከጸግም ምበልኩ

        ህግደፍ
        ኲናት የለን ኢሉ ይራገም
        ሃመማ
        ጸባ ዋላ ስዋ ረአ ‘ሉ ይድርገም

        ትቀዳማይ
        ባዕሉ ዝወለዖ ኲናት ይሰዓር
        ትዳሕረዋይ
        ኣብ መለሊኽ ስዋ ኣትዩ ይገዓር
        ክገርመኩም
        ኣብ ክንዲ ካብ ጌጋኦም ዝመሃሩ
        ሓንቲ ዓይነት ስራሕ ክሰርሑ ይነብሩ
        ፍንፉናት

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mehandsay,

          ሰልፍታት ትግራይ ….,,,

          ድቤት ክገብራ ርኤ
          ብሓቂ ቀኒኤ
          ዓመታት ከይዶም ገዲፎምና
          ንሕና ኸአ ዝነበርና አጥፊእና
          ወረ እንታይ’ዩ ጉድና

          በቲ ካልእ ሸነኽ………

          ሓድሽ ወረ ይነፍስ’ሎ
          ሕጽቦ ሓንጎል ይካየድ’ሎ
          ነስተብህል ቲ’ዝቀርብ ዘሎ መአዲ
          መሳለጢ ነቲ ዝግበር ዘሎ ከይዲ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ
            ሕጽቦ ሓንጎል ዶ ልካ?
            እወ
            ሰሚዐዮ ኣብ ሚደያ ኣለና
            ዝገርም ዩ

            ናብ ካልእ ክንሰግር
            ትግራይ ምርጫ ክገብሩ
            ንሕና ድማ ዓይንና ዓዊሩ

            ብናቶም ስራሕ ቀኒአ
            ዓድኹም ክ ንታይ ኣሎ
            ከይብሉኒ
            ኣብ ጉብጥሽ ተሓቢአ

            ብድሑር ባህሊ
            ሓንቲ ዘረባና
            መኻናት ከም በቕሊ
            ተ ዘይኴኑ ለኽበጥበጥ ኣይትበል
            ትሩፋታት

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Dr. Aman and Engineer

            Since still it is Sunday,,in your Nations..Let me attach …. This is an interview of the brave the most brilliant leaders of TPLF Keria Ibrahim interview…

            ብምክንያት 8ይ ዓመት ዝኽረ መለስ ዜናዊ ምስ ወ/ሮ ኬርያ ኢብራሂም አባል ኮሚቴ ፈፃሚ ስራሕ ህወሓት ዝተገበረ ፃኒሒት፣ ነሓሰ 20/2012 ዓ.ም

            https://www.youtube.com/wat

            Enjoy it and say your say

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            My device froze for 30 minutes when I tried to write “brave”, “most brilliant “, “leader “, “TPLF “, Keria Ibrahim “ all in one sentence.
            How did you do it? Please share your secrets.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            The secret is simply be honest with yourself and all Others and do what is in mind..Don’t think in negative way..like this —the most brilliant leaders of TPLF Keria Ibrahim interview…

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I see you are using the words “brilliant “ and “leadership” very lightly.
            Last time I checked the brilliant leadership of Tplf is hiding in an undisclosed cave somewhere in Adwa. Five years after the passing of the visionary leader Meles, the brilliant Tplf leaders, with a collective IQ of 15, quarantined themselves in a cave.
            ወይአነ!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo,

            You don’t have to be high in IQ to make yourself the most highly respected fighter..When comes to principle all you need is the clear stand and just go..The IQ subject is not listed as per individual and as we all have seen.

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            “ሲያመኝ አታስቀኝ”
            ጨዋታ ጨምረሃል
            You did it again!
            You said, “ you don’t have to be high in IQ to make yourself the most highly respected fighter “.
            May be you are high on something else. What are you smoking?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abo.

            What do you think? Just reading you all and wondering about how you guys think…

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            Abi; Not that she that intelligent but KS giving her undeserving props to the thugs but he is prizing her because she is a Muslim.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitriccay.

            Is Meles Muslim then?

            No, brother that is not the case…It is the stand only..I have a christian brother equal to my knowledge brother….What is your religion is not important my dear,,,think above it…

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            Hey KS; then she can’t be intelligent since she exchange high position and bright future with the federal government to Shiii hole to Mekele. tell me how she can be intelligent? Melles has no religion so you have no choice but to support him – 🙂

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi Nitriccay.

            She is naturally intelligent and bright,,,But have you seen the interview ? She is mentioning Meles for his high stand and clear vision. That his way was very professional who was managing by the entire world respected..He had been the best African leader,,,

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            She is mentioning Meles for his high stand and clear vision. That his way was very professional who was managing by the entire world respected..He had been the best African leader,,,

            Hey KS; i have NO intention to west my time on wasted thugs but your visionary leader not only left Ethio-Eritrea on limbo but his country is number one in begging, number one in Aid recipient, ethnic conflict, killing based on religious differences; where should i stop KS? Be honest for your own soul. how in the hack can you say Melles was a visionary leader? how? look what is going on in Ethiopia as we speak. I don’t get!!!!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitriccay,

            What? Meles didn’t leave us in danger… He only accepted our long struggle and said we deserve Eritrea. He was the first Ethiopian to say Eritrea deserve freedom. Be honest and clear it…

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            What? Meles leave us in danger… He only accepted our long struggle and said we deserve Eritrea. He was the first Ethiopian to say Eritrea deserve freedom. Be honest and clear it…

            Hey KS; are you that naive? He accepted when he was weak and tried to reverse the Eritrean people independence entirely using with everything Ethiopia has to offer, human resource, financial and emotional but the brave people of Eritrea once again crushed your visionary leader with its several thousands of Army. So, yes the accept and supported Eritrean independence when TPLF thugs were weak and once they were strong; they tried to reverse it, so get off this high horse you are on telling us the TPLF thugs BS.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitriccay,

            He could have wasted time if he continue to fight like Mengstu..He simply was with us against Mengstu..He think and said go away..with your red sea. And depend in his own resource like Abay Nile… and Ethiopia was growing in his time,,,

            KS.,.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kokhob Selam,

            I don’t think you have to wonder how I think. I am in agreement with you on the point. You were right to bring the interview forward for comments. I started to watch but quickly realized I was unable to understand because of language barrier.

            However, I am here now to compliment you. You are strong and go toe to toe with the differing Awatistas to hold your ground.
            I understand it is easier when truth is on your side. Just the same, with a clear mind and unwavering respect for others you are holding the high ground.

            I congratulate you on your momentous progress. I even think, that your Awate participation helps you to advance to this level. Good luck on your future journey and progress, I hope Bahir Dar is also included in it.

            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Mr Kim
            The truth is what is currently happening in Ethiopia. I understand you got a different standard for truth and brilliance.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Yes Abo,

            “the nights were dark, lit only by the brilliance of Aegean stars”

            KS,,

          • Abi

            ok

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Dear KM,

            Yes, my dear a lot of development,,Health wise I am doing fine..I am becoming stronger and keep advancing..

            I came to know my progress when people around me say so.. that is nice and sign of my nonstop understanding.about my future..

            “I hope Bahir Dar is also included in it.” wow, no question asked..yes my dear friend how can I forget that lovely city..I am planning to go even before I leave the world..

            Thank you for this compliment..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            You can even do better if you stay clear from promoting the Tplf thugs.
            You can’t resuscitate a dead body.

          • Consolation

            KS,

            You make it sound as if Meles had a choice. He was put in power by Shaebia and he had no option but agree to whatever Shaebia wanted. He was guarded by Shaebia commandos until 1994. When he was able to stand on his feet, he showed his true colors as a back-stabber. There is no doubt that had he had the power in 1991, he would not have acquiesced to Eritrean independence. Knowing that, the Americans tried very hard to delay the referendum by 5 years.

            No matter how much you try to spin it, it won’t change the historical truth that Meles was a Shaebia retainer. Deal with that!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear,

            See bellow.

            He could have wasted time if he continue to fight like Mengstu..He simply was with us against Mengstu..He think and said go away..with your red sea. And depend in his own resource like Abay Nile… and Ethiopia was growing in his time,,,

            KS.,.

          • sara

            selam Gen-Nit
            indeed she must be intelligent,don’t you know Kheriya was born in Akhriya? think about it and at-least acknowledge the difference in betweens.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear sara,

            Now, like Nittricay you want to say she is a Muslim? That is not the case..You could be more brave against our dictator if only willing..it is only a matter of principle my dear…

            KS,,

          • sara

            ya kokob,’
            dont get carried away, you should know me by now… that’s not me..
            however,,, i was telling gen nit the truth…. she said it when she visited Asmara/////// if you are admirer of her you should have known this … that she is Gual akhriya originally….. deal with it…. dont go further…
            kokob you are known her as a good guy and i expect you to at least apologize for your wrong assumption of what i meant.
            thank you.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear sara,

            I know you also as honest before you visited he home land..where were you during vacation?

            KS,

          • sara

            selam kokob,
            khalik rajul (insan muhterem) wo ashab alkilam hadi— otherwise ,
            it means you are not what we all —or me at least me had high regard about you.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear sara,

            “indeed she must be intelligent,don’t you know Kheriya was born in Akhriya? ” What the hell makes the difference? I am are wondering how you guys think,,,,

            KS,,

          • Nitricc

            Hey Sara; really? i didn’t know that. thanks for the info. I don’t what but most high officials in the Thugs have something to do with Eritrea and Asmara. i heard Derestion was born in Asmara too? it is true?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitriccay,

            What makes the difference? It is not where you born it is how you think…

            KS,,

          • sara

            Gen…Nit,
            you sure followed the recent discussion of I.Q s in this forum////
            doesn’t it tell you something about being born in eritrea and else where when you are talking about intelligence…..
            i hope you got my drift by now.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear sara and Nitriccay,

            You both to own them,,No, way dear friends.

            KS,,

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sara & Nitricc,

            Guys! It is Awate double celebration day! You are getting distracted! You should talk nothing but Awate. Don’t spoil his day!

          • sara

            selam ato haile…
            you are right and i apologize– its zereba zerba amxeo/// thing… otherwise as you may have noted i was the first one, i think two days ago to remind forumers about the forthcoming September 1 celebration…
            i stop here.. thank you.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam haile s
            from one individual ethiopian perspective, i say happy Awate day for all eritreans, even though Awate looks like a small shop owner(shamesu sok) in addis, he doesn’t look like a fighter at all but i really like him for starting the struggle for independence and make eritrea independent country.

          • Haile S.

            Thank you Teodros

          • Consolation

            TA,

            He is better looking than the midgets Haile Sellasie, Mengistu and Meles. Despite his rustic looks, he was a brilliant strategist who had travelled to Italy and spoke 6 languages.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam conso
            I think u don’t got the point, i was talking about mean face and hair.
            When i grow up, 4-5 block from our house there was a little shop owner by the name “Gash Mahamed”, based on Awate’s pic and other than age Awate looks like the young Gash Mahamed, there r lots of shamesu suk owner in addis who looks like Awate.
            i’m sure he is better looking than mengistu, meles and pia(isaias), even though isaias is taller, u can’t even tell which one is his right and left lag, both of isaias legs looks like right legs, in addis we call isaias kind of person 2 “gera eger”, which means 2 right legs.
            HS has a grace , he was graceful, which u don’t have any idea.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Haile; i thought it is tomorrow, no? Anyway I hear what you are saying but with a little skirmish; Awate.com won’t be the same Awate.com. In all honesty the people who are ruining the event are the one who bow and keel to the dead midget. That dead midget should have no place on Eritrean’s web-sites but we have people love him so much they are trying to make the devil to a saint. Anyway, i hear you.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Nitricc,

            Every celebration starts on the eve!

            Well said! The difference between a saint and devil (both are human beings, I don’t believe in spirits) is from what angle, who sees them and with what binocular. You brought a good example.
            Cheers

          • Consolation

            Haile S.,

            I must have read this in the past as it is too obvious not to have occurred to someone before: There are always three sides, yours, the other guys, and the truth!

          • Haile S.

            Consolation,

            Did you just walk up from a deep dream? I don’t know what you are talking about. Don’t confuse others with yourself.

          • Consolation

            Selam memhirey,

            The point I am making is that there are those who have no moral right to celebrate anything that has to do with Eritrea and certainly not the birth of its revolution. In the month of May 2000, the Weyane launched a massive invasion of Eritrea with the express design to enter Asmara on May 24 and turn tthat magnificient day to a day of permanent shame and humilation for Eritreans. Just imagine what would have happened had the TPLF back-stabbers accomplished their mission! Now, the Weyanes had their Chalabis in the form of the Eritrean Democaratic Alliance, ELF left-overs who had totally sold their soul. But the Weyane heinous intention to commit murder on the Eritrean nation was defeated. So do you think the Weyane collaborators have any moral standing to claim that they are Eitreans!

          • Abi

            Consolation
            The eve of September 1 was well spent appreciating the brilliant Tplf leadership and calling for renewed solidarity with the visionary leaders!
            I guess you missed it.
            ከወይአነ ጋር ያላቸውን በደም የተሳሰረ የትግል አጋርነት በትጋት ለማጠናከር በድጋሚ ቃል በመግባት የጋራ መግለጫ አውጥተው በአሉን በደመቀ ሁኔታ አክብረው ውለዋል::

            ታዛቢው

          • Consolation

            Abi,

            I really dont pay much notice to what dead people pretending to be alive say or do!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Consolation,

            I like ‘memhirey’. But please note that if you were my student, you wouldn’t push enemity to perpetuity. You wouldn’t be the distributor of citizenship. Eritrea belong to every Eritrean including those who bear arms against the regime. A regime who did nothing to bring reconciliatory reaproachement among Eritreans following indeorndence. We have to come out of this civil war of the seventies and eighties. Peace in Eritrea can only prevail when these two protagonists (EPLF & ELF) talk to each other and think about Eritrea and Eritreans first instead of thinking of vengeances. If EPLF & ELF continue to talk to Ethiopians and others separately like they do now, there won’t be a solution. Lets come out of this quagmire.

          • Consolation

            Ato Haile,

            What happened in 2000 cannot be so easily dismissed. In any society, at any time, those who commit flagrant treason on their people lose all their rights, including their life. That is reality. Deal with it!

          • Semere Tesfai

            Ahlan sara

            1`. – “during my trip home i saw all what our chogar dangas are doing at home, as you know its a rainy season and all what you see on the road to asmera is farmers with oxes, tractors, even some using camels to do the farming to catch up the good rainy times.”

            سارا أختى….. شكرا
            I was really worried about my CheguAr Dabga people. The folks with double and triple PhDs here at Awate have been telling us that “the country is empty” of its people. I guess when you’re too educated CheguAr Dangas are not considered people.

            2. – “thanks to you i would nt have paid that much attention on farming and farmers if you didn’t popularize the chogar danga thing in awate.”

            Not as much as I wanted to. CheguArd Dangas are the backbone of Eritrea; and I really mean it. They are humble, hardworking, God fearing, law abiding, patriots and warriors, who made Eritrean independence possible yesterday, and who are building the nation today from ground up – one brick at a time.

            Of course the folks who suffer from slave mentality would disagree. They think everything about Kewajas is superior and good – food, dress, culture, language…. and everything about Eritrean Hagereseb is backward primitive unintelligent and savage.

            Please, please always pay atten to the Cheguar Dangas. They are very important people in Eritrea’s life.

            3. – “this years rain is believable, specially in the regions, on my way back i stayed in halhale for 3 days to skip the floods that hit the main road back to my destination K. via seney.”

            That is good news. I wish I knew you were going to reach as far as Halhale. I would’ve given you Debdabe to say hi to Wulad-Aje. Or in the words of the immortal artist Alamin Abdulatif

            ከፎ ህሌኩም – ሕዌ ውላድ ዓጀ፡ ሰፋለልኩኩም
            ከፎ ህሌኩም – ውላድ ዓጀ ጻዕዳ፡ ሰፋለልኩኩም

            ውላድ ዓጀ፡ ሰላም ‘ግል ሊበሎም
            ህቶም ሕውየ ‘ቶም፡ ዎ ኣና ሕውሆም
            ህቶም ምንየ ‘ቶም፡ ውኣና ምኖም
            ምርወት ዎ መራነት፡ ህሌት ዲቦም

            ምርወት ዎ ሰብእነት፡ ትስዐ ዲቦም

            ከፎ ህሌኩም – ሕዌ ውላድ ዓጀ፡ ሰፋለልኩኩም
            ከፎ ህሌኩም – ውላድ ዓጀ ጻዕዳ፡ ሰፋለልኩኩም

            Anyway, welcome back; and thank you for the good news lijie.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            Forget kokhob, he is not even eligible to vote for any country.
            I think u like movies, right? If u do, try to see an old movie called ” body of lies”, it is about CIA works in the middle east, Leonardo diCaprio is main actor in the movie. what i want to tell u is that what is going on in ethiopia the last 9-10 years is the same like “body of lies” movie. The actors, in ethiopia case the gov and on the movie CIA believes nobody is innocent, in both cases the plan got out of hands and cased unplanned damages.
            How do i know it ? Take a look the movie first.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kokhobay,

            Thank you for the clip. She is the product of him. The “Yehuda” current PM was also the product of him. Unfortunately, we will not see a leader who could work for the poor Ethiopian people after him in the foreseeable future.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Selam Dr. Amuni.

            How can we see such kind of person? It is just not possible to bring back Meles. Let all understand this reality..But he had been working for future replacement..Yes and Sure this will materialized…

            Yes, She is the product of him. But if she could change the stand like that rubbish PM….That is why I attach the link to show that there is hope more than some people think in this site, People are thinking that he is dead and that there is hope to see advanced Ethiopia..

            See,now there is much chance to see more advanced Ethiopia soon..

            KS..

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Since it is a national holiday to commemorate the gallant Eritreans who struggled for 30 years to free themselves from the daunting task of colonizing Ethiopia, you are welcome to say anything that comes to your mind.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Mehandsay,

          Yes, we miss Dr Paulos and his contribution on the on going debate.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ

            ተባሂሎም
            ዘገድሰና
            ርግኣት ናይ ቀርኒ-ኣፍሪቃ
            ቀይሕ ባሕሪ
            ክትውንኖ ኢትዮጵያ
            ውሕስነት ኤረትራ
            ‘ዩ በሉ
            ተባሂሎም
            የማነ ህበይ
            ትእዛዝ ኣመሓላሊፉሎም
            ዝገርም ‘ዩ

            ሕጂ ድማ
            ሓድሽ ዓለባ ክኽደኑ
            ውሕስነት ቀርኒ-ኣፍሪቃ በሉ
            ዝብል ምህዞ ከቃልሑ
            ያላ ተባሂሎ

            ደቂ ስርዓት-ህግደፍ
            በጀኻትኩም ክትሓስቡ ጀምሩ
            ‘ንዳ ህግደፍ
            ሃገርኩም ክጽንብሩ
            ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ይጽዕሩ
            ብጋህዲ
            ንዓኻትኩም ድማ ብዘይመስል
            ሓሳባት ይምህሩ
            የደንቁሩ

            ከምይ ‘ሉ ድዪ
            ዓይንኹምን ሓንጎልኩምን ዓዊሩ?
            ያላ! ያላ! ድቃስ ይኣክል
            ተበራበሩ

          • Consolation

            Ato Amanuel,

            There are five stages to grief, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Most of those who had hoped to ride on Weyane tanks to Asmara are now past the denial stage. I think the Doctor is in that group. It is obvious from the adulation he displayed for Meles the midget that his allegiance to the TPLF was not just tactical, but deeply emotional as well. What do you expect the result to be when he realized that the TPLF was just a bunch of brazen thieves and barbaric murderers! It is better for those who are still in the denial stage to jump out of the rapidly sinking ship.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation
            You sound like those losers Bruno & Beyene Reussom, so called Ambassadors.
            No diplomatic related functions but day in and day out talking trash. Embarrassing.

          • Consolation

            selam MM,

            The only losers here are people like you who still haven’t figured out that the jig is up. In other words, the GAME is OVER!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Consolation,
            How could it be a game over when a foreign force is still in our land? You don’t even know what you are talking.

          • Consolation

            Selam AH,

            The eviction notice has been sent and will be implemented this month. That should end your state of DENIAL!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation,
            If the GAME is OVER, why keep making noises about those woyane? Unless, it is not really over 🙂
            BTW, can you talk the problem we have in Eritrea? Then again, you can’t. I mean, you are not allowed to beep about it at all. Sad.

          • Nitricc

            Fake engineer; i refused to believe that you are an Eritrean. you are just a digital thug in here to confuse Eritreans. How is things in Mekele? got lost loser. I give it to you though, you tried to hard, you even mentioned silicon valley, that was a give away to your F desperation. Now let me tell you A-hole; Game over!!!! take that to the bank.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            private sole-cell nitricc
            Who are you serving, private? Right..not Eritrea.
            Made in Gojam and packaged as a private low level soldier and call himself Eritrean. You ignorant family are not teaching right. ንስኻን ኣያኻን ‘ንዳ ሜስ ከምዝ ዓበኹም ተፍልጡ። ስድታት።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Consolation,

            Your comment is the same recycled comment. Go back to your disqus and check out.

          • Nitricc

            his contribution

            Hey Aman-H we told that she is she; why are you still addressing her like he? It must be a digital thing. dude, get with it, you are sounding foolish. Why are you so stubborn or is it just a digital thing? How much are they, the thugs paying you? on this time of your age stand for your own principals and personal dignity. life is to short. you have served them enough,

    • Teodros Alem

      aman h
      I think u r not still ok, u said one of the specialist on the politics of the horn of Africa”? he is a foreigner and may be so educated about horn politics but he can’t be specialist more than the people of horn. i wonder why u base ur politics based on political opinion and politically narrated news, YouTube and writings more than the reality.
      I did listen the link.

  • sara

    greeting to all … awatians,i traveled back home end of July for Eid holidays and overstayed my holidays and just back to where i reside temporary. in fact was supposed to be back earlier but due to heavy rain and flooding on the way i was compelled to stay longer.
    so how have all of you been, during this month of august with covid 19 thing ,i hope you are all safe and healthy.
    our people are so far ok from the covid 19, but the lock dawn has made life bit tough specially in our capital,but the choice is between life and death… if you want to be safe that is the price you have to pay…..around the country its much more relaxed and easier to go on with your life and people are very busy with their farming season to gain from the rainy season.
    in few days it is September 1, that we remember and celebrate as the day that brought us this far and want to assure all of you awatians — back home …. the spirit of September one is Alive and kicking.
    happy september 1

    • Abi

      Sariti shikorina
      Welcome back.
      Glad to know that the spirit of September 1 is still alive and kicking! Nothing existing as a New Year!

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Abi,

        Eritrea new year is Jan 1st.

        Eritrea celebrate sept 1,

        1) qudus Yohannes, national holiday
        2) our hero Awate, started the struggle of independence in September 1st.

        Berhe

        • Abi

          Hawna Berhe
          I didn’t know you celebrate new year on January 1st. Now it is clear for me why Eritreans got a higher IQ.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abi,

            My theory, not backed up with any research, is most or a large percentage of Eritreans want to continue to celebrate New Year on Sept. 11 (Meskerem Tibat) as their brother-en to the south.

            One way to break that tradition is give it a different reason to celebrate the date. I think it is cleaver.

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Kim Good one. lol

          • Abi

            Hello Mr Kim
            መስከረም አንድ ኤርትራ ወደ እናት አገሯ የተመለሰችበት ቀን ተብሎ ታስቦ ይውል ነበር::
            የነፃነት እብደቱም በዚህ ቀን መጀመሩ በስካር ተነሳስተው መሆን አለበት::
            ሌላ መላምት አልቀበልም:)

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው፡

            በደንብ ኣስታውሳለሁ! በኃይለሥላሴ ጊዜ፡ የሁለተኛ ክፍለ-ጦር ወታደሮች፡ እምቢ ያለ ሰው ጥይት ኣጉርሰው እያሉ፡ ከሰፈራቸው ተነስተው፡ በተወሰኑ የኣሥመራ ጐዳናዎች እየዞሩ ይመለሱ ነበር። በልጅነታችን፡ በያመቱ ቀኑ ሲቃረብ፡ ወታደሮች ሊዞሩ ነው ብለን እነሱን ለማየት እንወጣ ነበር። ሳድግ ነው እንጂ፡ ያኔ ለምን እንደሚዞሩ ግን ኣይገባኝም ነበር።

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Kim,

            No it has nothing to do with Ethiopian New Years. Eritrea has been using the Gregorian calandra before during the British, Italian times. HS changed it, sane way he changed our school system (Amharic become standard).

            We never stopped celebrating qudus Yohannes on September 1st, same way we celebrate lidet (Ghena) on Jan 7.

            It’s nothing to do with separation but adapting international standard.

            Let me ask you, how does computers work in Ethiopia? Do they have Ethiopian calendar and what happened when it’s pagume? They skip 5 days..

            I pretty sure Ethiopian airlines does not have Ethiopian calendar, last time I checked for flight booking.

            BTW, I also think the orthodox celebrate sept 1st as new year and they use the calendar as well. But that’s for religion / tradition purpose but not official government standard.

            I would not change a thing, it’s the right decision.

            Berhe

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            Just curious, are you sure all parts of Eritrea was using Gregorian calendar before foreigners control of the region? If I am not mistaken the separation of the State and the Church was 19th century concept, thus the separation of the state calendar and the church calendar must be new in Eritrea too. Do you think Eritrea Orthodox Tewahedo Church was using Gregorian calendar before 19th century?

            Before Italy controls Eritrea I don’t the church’s calendar and the administrators of the region calendar was different, it may not be all parts of Eritrea, may be some part of it. Don’t forget that the church was very influential for long period of time. Just asking to learn more.

            Thanks,

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Samuel,

            I think you didn’t misunderstood me. The Orthodox Church still uses the geez calendar.

            What I am saying, Eritrea government/ state was using Gregorian Calendar before the Federation, and I even suspect during the federation.

            As far as I know, the federation was the first time, Eritrea as a separate state existed.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Samuel,

            Time is also politicised. In the ancient world, New Year to a large extent was celebrated with the arrival of harvest. Halloween was a feast celebrated by the Pagan Celts in the British Isle—well before it was taken to the USA. Our region should not different either.

          • Samuel

            Selam David,
            I agree, in many countries New-year used to start outside January 1, mostly based on their respective harvest season. Even England adopted the new Gregorian calendar in 1753. Russia adopted the Gregorian Calendar at the end of the second world war (1918).

            I think, before 1890 Eritrea or the region we call Eritrea today may have been celebrating New-year in September not in January 1. I can’t imagine the people who lived South of Mereb celebrating New-year in September, but the people who lived North of Mereb (a mile way or less) celebrating outside September.

            Thanks,

          • Abi

            Samiti
            Isn’t it funny for the SAME people separated by a lazy river to have different calendars and different color of eyes? I feel your frustration.
            Your IQ is pushing triple digits!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Samuel,

            It has been futile to explain this but let me attempt with you last time, as you will be rational.

            I am not sure that we have an understanding that we are taking about different dates.

            1) Sept 1st GC is some day in Aug in Ethiopian Calendar.
            This is a day we celebrate the start of Eritrea armed liberation. It’s a national holiday. Actually it’s tomorrow.

            2) Sept 11 GC is Sept 1 ETC, and it’s qudus Yohannes and it’s a national holiday as well. New season, new year in the Orthodox Church but it’s not a new year on official government or school days.

            3) Jan 1st Is Eritrea new year.

            4) May 24th Eritrea Independence Day.

            5) June 20th is Eritrea martyr day.

            6) school end at end of June.

            All these dates and other important dates in Eritrea are used according to the GC.

            Same goes with time. In the morning it’s 7AM and not 1AM, it’s according to the meridian clock.

            Let me ask you one last time. When a person withdraw cash from ATM machine in Ethiopia, what day / month and time the receipt shows? A simple question but it has a lot of significance in digital world? In digital world, time is one of the way to ensure Integrity and non-repudiation. If I am visiting Ethiopia and I used my credit card to purchase something and something happened (stolen etc) so I need to be specific when it happened (last time I used) so I can make my claims successfully. I can imagine I have reciept printout says one day/ time and it says something else on the other end.

            The sender / receiver time needs to synchronized. I am not saying Meridian time is the best, but it’s the tine the whole world adapted and use.

            I think Ethiopia sooner or later will change as well, as it advances its economy.

            Berhe

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            I understood your point, the official calendar and the religious calendar are different in Eritrea. I got that point. The part that I wasn’t clear was that — when did Eritrea start celebrating New-year on January 1? If it was after 1890, I can understand that, but if it was before 1890 then it will be new knowledge for me.

            You asked “Let me ask you one last time. When a person withdraw cash from ATM machine in Ethiopia, what day / month and time the receipt shows?

            Just FYI, there are two ATMs, one is international ATM, the transaction will be GC without any doubt.
            The other is local ATM (local banks), I can’t say with certainty because I haven’t used the local ATM, but if I have to guess most likely I would say GC. The customers of the bank are both international and local. Hopefully, someone who has used the local ATM will help us on this.

            Thanks,

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Samuel,

            Thank you for your reply and I think we are on the same page.

            I don’t think it was before 1890. I can’t imagine it will be back then, where Eritrea as a state didn’t exist, as it is known today.

            As far as the people of Kebesa nothing has changed and it’s Sept 1st today.

            As Eritrea there some years that we know them and remember them well. For example, federation was in 1952, I don’t think there is anyone rememberers it on any other year.

            Liberation struggle was from 1961 -1991.

            I think it would be hard to have different time / calendar used at services that require interaction, such as payment processing.

            You said 2 ATM, are you saying two types of ATM or there are only 2 ATM in the country?

            Berhe

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            I mean to say two types of ATM (local and international). The local ATMs are everywhere in the country (cities and towns).

            Thanks,

          • sara

            selam ato berhe,
            just briefly, i think there are many countries who count time/year/days
            one of them is Iran ….and i see some similarities with Ethiopia….

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sara,

            I am sure there should be similarities. It boils down to what a year means in real terms, which is 365 days for earth to go around the Sun. No matter how countries need to divide / count the month it has to add up to this constant number. In Iran it looks like they have 6 months 31 days 5 months 30 days and 1 month 28/29 depending on leap year.

            What I think is more important is the UTC standard which is Universal. This one I think needs to be confirmed and there is no way around it.

            Leaving this aside, what have you sensed on our people optimism.
            1) What have you sensed in terms of our people future, what is that they dream about.
            2) Are they satisfied by what the government does and they have accepted it and they think it’s the best they can hope for.
            3) Or they ask and dream about leaving the country abroad and want to have better future for them and for their loved one.
            4) what do you think about the young? Do they dream about leaving as well one day to America and Europe?
            5) What have you heard about the release of prisoners?

            Thanks again,
            Berhe

          • Brook

            Hi Berhe, Happy “Awate day”!
            When was the new year celebrated before the arrivals of the Italians or the British? Can you expand your explanation few decades further back?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brook,

            I am not knowledgeable on this so the simple answer is I don’t know. But I would would guess, Eritrean churches used the Geez /Coptic calendar as they still do today.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I should say we adapted Gregorian calendar and Greenwich meridian time zone as well.

            I wonder how your computers in Ethiopia track time and calendar?

            For example, the US claims it got its independence from the UK 250 years ago and it’s still used the British system,while the British have changed to metric system over 50 years ago.

            It’s not a measure of IQ or not, but what standard we chose to adapt. BTW, we s always used the international system but HSI changed our calendar and we resorted back.

            Just curious.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            Did u say “we r always used international system”? what do u mean by “we” ? you eritreans and italians? you guys r funny, real funny.
            1st, that was not international system, it is european system, not eritrea system. Pls don’t tell me egypt used it so it’s ok if eritrea used it kind of argument.
            2, the Italian used thier own system under thier own colony, not they used it for u, they used it for themselves and u have to follow it because u were under italia colony.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            Yezorebet. It’s a standard system that’s used around the world today.

            We are not pretending as if we invebted the calendar like you guys do by calling it Ethiopian Calendar. There is no I such thing called Ethiopian calendar.

            I says we as in Eritrean. The derg radio use to say every morning “yih yeItyopia radio Tabiya new. Ahun jeTwatu And seAt new”. Yes body paid attention to that stupid click and clawed it 7am.

            In Eritrea it’s common people make appointments “Alah Kibehal Kelo” meaning 5AM.

            I heard Dr. Abiy saying, we should change the calendar and use Gregorian calendar instead. He even said “Eritrea has already changed it”, yes we didn’t change it we resorted back to where it was.

            So get over your self absorbed and self importance. Fix your computer system first.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            I think u hate eritrea so much that is why u arguing sarcastically stupd argument to make eritrea and eritreans pathetic.
            1st, when it comes to foreign relationship and foreign related things, ethiopia uses both Gregorian and ethiopian calendar.
            2nd, there never been a country called geez and there r no country called geez. there is a country called ethiopia and that country is using ethiopian calendar.
            3rd, there r a lot , a lot of calendar in the world, there r European, Egyptian, Islamic, Chinese, Singapore, ethiopian and so on . i know most countries used European (Gregorian) calendar but that doesn’t make that calendar international calendar, it doesn’t make it Indian or Chinese or African or arabic or Egyptian or……….. calendar.
            How do i know u hate eritrea?
            1, u attempted to say ethiopia (geez)calendar belongs to eritrea too and u also said HS imposed ethiopian(geez) calendar over our(European) calendar.
            2,

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            Why do you say I hate Eritrea? Yes we have schools in Eritrea. So what’s your point?

            Listen, Ethiopia as a name of the country only was used in 1945 when it registered with the UN.

            So what was the name of Ethiopian calendar before 1945?

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            “mesekin”, ethiopia is one of the founders of league of nations and the UN!
            ethiopian calender is also called “Habesha” calendar.
            why do i say u hate eritrea? Because u tried to make the whole eritrea things look like about hating ethiopia by extension hating yourself and u tried to make it look like the whole eritrea thing is about being “ascaris” and happy Italian slaves.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            I think you need to know your history.

            Sure it is a founding member of the UN, I didn’t say it isn’t. Before the UN the organization was known as league of nations where Abissinya was also a member. It registered as “Ethiopia in 1945”.

            Here is some maps for you to check…
            https://earthworks.stanford.edu/?f%5Bdc_subject_sm%5D%5B%5D=Ethiopia%E2%80%94Maps

            Find a map that shows the name Ethiopia before 1945.

            Did I say I am not habesha? When did I say that….

            So how do you think Eritreans attended school before HS? Did they also studied in Amharic.

            Do you even know what the hell a calendar is? Why do Ethiopians use 12 months of 30 days and add Pagume 5 or 6 days in leap year?

            There is nothing about Habesha or Ethiopia or Geez about it. The Greeks, the Coptics, the Armenians, the Romans used it…But most of the world has changed to Gregorian (Europe) and Ethiopia hasn’t.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            U r pathetic, for real .

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            What’s wrong m. You can’t handle the truth.

            You thought the Habesha astronomers figured it out it takes 365 days or 366 days for earth to move around the sun.

            Does this sound familiar ?

            “The Armenian calendar is divided into 12 months of 30 days each, plus an additional (epagomenal) five days are called aweleacʿ (“superfluous”). Years are usually given in Armenian numerals, letters of the Armenian alphabet preceded by the abbreviation ԹՎ for t’vin “in the year” “

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            Genius berhe, u think the Armenian make the ethiopian calendar fit the wether and culture of habesha, get out here, u r pathetic.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            I did not say, the Armenian made the calendar for Ethiopia but to show you, there are also others who use the same calendar.
            When you write a date on a paper, such as 01/02/1975 ETC you actually thought some habesha guy figured that out. Do you know his name? Who the genius is? like Julian or Gregory

            Looks like I have hurt your self esteem, and it seems this is really a shock to you. The Coptic in Egypt were using the same calendar way before the birth of Christ.

            Habesha culture, Habesha calendar, Habesha anything belongs to me as much as it belongs to you, if not more, for the mere fact that I am close to the sea (gateway) to the outside world than you are.

            Out of respect for our people and our culture, I will end this. I have no intention to drag this any more that it needs to be.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            I told u, u r pathetic and i told u , u don’t know how culture shape up and evolved.
            1, u said ” HS imposed ethiopian calendar on us by changing our calendar( European/ Gregorian)
            2, u also said ethiopia ( habesha) calendar also belongs to u too.
            that was the argument and u r truly pathetic welfare addict.
            U don’t know what u talking about.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi TA,

            Arguing with you is ruining the good discussion Sara is having with the rest. I apologize Sara, I shouldn’t have volunteered to respond.

            Tedros, I can’t take your insults although I don’t know why you can counter argue and correct me where I am wrong.

            Remember this, one day when Ethiopia decides to adapt, you will remember me.

            Now I will ask as I am curious what the receipt will say if someone withdraw money from ATM or pays with Visa. How will the Ethiopians banks do wire transfer if they do not use the same timing.

            I am asking to those who know.

            WediHanka, means I rest my case.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            It’s not insult but i really think u not just pathetic , i think u also mentally sick. reread what u have said from the beginning.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe,

            It is Saturday, don’t lock horn with T. A
            Tedros Alem has a way of rubbing people the wrong way. Doesn’t he? I wonder why.

            I want to take the topic out of his hands and praise the “Ethiopian Calendar” for its unique harmony with the mood of most of the residents.

            When the rain stops in the city, there is a lift of the siege and appearance of sunshine that changes the mood.
            School is about to start…new grade. If you finished 10th grade, 11th grade is the new class in the new year.
            Outside the city the color green becomes dominant.
            Yellow flowers show up everywhere. Young girls singing “Abeyayehosh” adore the neighborhoods. The air feels fresh.

            It feels like a new fresh beginning for everything, that is when we say “Happy New Year” to each other. Is it bad? It is the acknowledgement of our own harmony with the environment. It feels right.
            If you think of January in Addis, there is no detectable difference between it and the months of December or February. There is nothing new about it.
            I think like our languages it is unique to us. The Europeans and the Chinese (with their year of the rat) are happy with theirs and we are happy with ours. I hope they sing “Abebayehosh forever.

            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Kim,

            Thank you, and I agree with you and may Ethiopia continue to celebrate the new year. Even here where I live they celebrate it as event, where some city dignitaries come to celebrate it. I can also tell you, it is still very big holiday in the Orthodox church and still a national holiday. Nothing has changed as far as it’s value and it’s cultural significances. When I grew up, I celebrated as well saying “hoya hoye” and like you said the girls “go around” the city and praise the elders where the get some changes. I too also celebrate it.

            What I said was, it’s day celebrated for many reason in Eritrea including the start of our liberation movement.

            As far as the calendar goes, for official government purpose, Eritrea have adapted the Gregorian calendar for all government events. Even EPLF/ELF when they were in fighting the liberation, they were using the Gregorian calendar. Eritrea independence is 1991, no body remembers what year it was was in Ethiopian calendar.

            This is what I am trying to say, it was never done to separate from Ethiopia etc..but it what the people were used to.

            You are right Jan 1st may not mean much, but in Eritrea, I think we celebrate it like the rest of the world does.

            From Eritrea point of view, I think we got the best of both worlds.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            ok

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye tella bet azmeri
            What meles said was ” ethiopia or any countries can deport any foreigners for what ever reason, even for a reason that country don’t like the color of the foreigners eyes”
            he didn’t said eritrea was deported because of thier color of eyes , he didn’t said he doesn’t like the eye color of eritrean and he didn’t said eri eye color is different , he was talking about international law and norms.
            Mengistu deported lots of Yemenis and other foreigners including Americans within 24 hours.
            eritrea deported a lots of ethiopians before even eritrea become independent.
            but since u r low life tella bet azmeri keep patheticing.

          • Abi

            Dearest TA
            Your IQ is pushing double digits. I can not wait to see whether your age or IQ hit double digits first.

            በል አሁን እንደተለመደው ጥግህን ያዝ:: እንደ ጠላ ቤት ትንኝ አትረብሸኝ!
            Buzz off

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye tella bet azemeri
            I will give(shelemet) u 1 birr for ur tell bet azmeri joke.
            It is just amazing when u low life idois talk about IQ, u guys r by far the lowest IQ mentally disturbed individuals.

          • Abi

            Dearest TA
            አንዷን ብር በደስታ እቀበል ነበር:: ነገር ግን ያለህን ሁሉ ለኔ ሰጥተህ ፆምህን እንዳታድር ሰጋሁ:: የስንት ሰው ጫማ የጠረግህበትን: ቆሎ መቆርጠሚያህን ፍራንክ ለአንድ አዝማሪ ማስረከብ የአስተሳሰብ አለመብሰልን ያመለክታል::
            አድናቆትህን በልኩ አድርገው:: ስታድግ ይገባሃል::
            በል አሁን ሰካራም እንዳይረግጥህ ከበሩ ዞር በል::

          • Teodros Alem

            abi ye tella bet azmeri
            U r online ye tella bet azmeri, so azmeris r making money by talking none sense and trash, that is why i gave u 1 dirty old birr on ur forehead.
            I think u need to be thankful that ur job is much better than ur tella bet whor mother job.

          • Abi

            Dearest TA
            ቸርነትህ ከጎዳና ተዳዳሪ ውሾች ጋር ካደገ ልጅ ፈፅሞ አይጠበቅም::
            በል አሁን ገባ በልና በአንዷ ብር አንድ ጣሳ ቅራሪ ቸልሰህ በኪስህም አሹቅ ብጤ ይዘህ ሹልክ በል:: ከሌሊቱ ቁርና ከተባዩም ይከላከልልሃል::

            ለዛሬ በዚህ ይብቃህ::

          • Teodros Alem

            abi online tella bet azmeri
            What u don’t know is “ye godan tedadari or listero” is much better than son of 1 birr tella whor mother and much better than ye tella bet azmeri who make 1 birr by talking nonesese and liccing behind.

        • Teodros Alem

          selam berhe
          What up berhe?
          did u say Awate started the armed struggle on the day of ethiopia new year? On September 11? either he must be very mad when he saw people celebrated ethiopia new year instead of european new year which both of it has connections and history with Christian religion or he just wanted to start a new life on new year. both ways i really like that guy, he just showed the world the true colors of u guys and how low u guys r. u guys true color has been covered by Italian and ethiopians.

      • sara

        ato abi,
        i have a surprize for you, …back home during the eid festivities while visiting a neighbor with my aunt, i met a lady who came from a town near addis…. forgot the name… she speaks amrnya…. she is there to visit relatives but stacked to go back due to nonavailability of flights to addis…. so the discussion went like this
        -the lady to my aunt- your nice does spake Amarnya— No
        – again the lady-where does she live? — other country
        – ditto- then how did she came during this time of no flights— she came by
        road-
        – the lady— how come?
        my aunt told her … we have another country we call our second home that
        doesn’t restrict us to travel to and from..any time and day ///
        the she said — wey lejei///// ( i learned this applies 4 boy/girls)
        btw, i told her throgh my aunt i only know one person called ato abi ( not the pm) in awate … and he is married to one of our sis….then
        both my aunt and the lady said REALLY?/// and where is the awate city
        found?
        that was the difficult part to explain….
        thank you for the welcome.

        • Abi

          Sariti shikorina
          This is a nice story. I know you have three countries to call home. We share Awatenation!
          What does the ordinary Sudanese say about the Dam?
          Please tell that Ethiopian to find any transportation to go back home before you and I build the Great Wall.
          Again, welcome back የኔ ልጅ:)

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam sara

      Glad to hear from you. Welcome back

      Semere Tesfai

      • sara

        selam ato semere,
        thanks for the welcome,
        during my trip home i saw all what our chogar dangas are doing at home ,
        as you know its a rainy season and all what you see on the road to asmera is farmers with oxes, tractors, even some using camels to do the farming to catch up the good rainy times. thanks to you i would nt have paid that much attention on farming and farmers if you didn’t popularize the chogar danga thing in awate.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam sara,

          I join in welcoming you back. As you can imagine, I imagine that Awatistas are curious and are squinting to see what you saw on your trip.
          If you can, politics aside, can you expand on your observation. Start with your arrival at the airport with customs, questioning including Covid 19.
          When in Asmara, did you observe any difference between your last visit and this one, traffic on the streets, pedestrians, shops, electricity.

          When we hear water shortage, other shortages, is it a little bit exaggerated?
          Did you feel safe when traveling outside Asmara and back?

          Mr. K.H

          • sara

            selam ato kim
            thanks for the wellcome…..
            i think you missed to read what i wrote above and below…
            ato berhe and many others know my means of travel….. it is very primitive doesn’t have airports etc. etc…
            as for my observation of asmara and other towns on the way…
            as i said the lock dawn in asmara is very strict, you have only
            have to go for essential needs like shopping, hospitals etc
            as for the shortages…. during my stay… water was available… thanks to god… in-fact much better than on my last visit…. food prices are a bit high when i arrives in early July… but now again normal…
            ( since you are calling from addis…… tef was 8000 nkf early july
            but now is dawn to 4300 nkf) the good thing is our people have learned the hard way to come up with alternative solution which i will share with only lady forumers if necessary)
            as for the safety thing…. that is the most valued thing i have experienced now and before in eritrea considering what is going on unfortunately around our neighborhood.
            eritreans at home are wondering and watching what is going on around the world and every day pray that peace and stability prevails in the near and far so that they can guarantee their peace
            becomes sustainable.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Sara,

      Welcome back. Glad you are safe and glad that you shared our people are doing great. And I hope they have great harvest season.

      Berhe

      • sara

        selamat Ato Berhe,
        except the covid 19 situation all is just fine considering this is a global problem. as per my observation life in the countryside is far easier and relaxed than in Asmara. in the capital as you know most of the produce comes from the regions and because of the restrictive situation due to covid 19 some time SPEZA is a bit inflated and makes people to complain ,
        but overall they are coping and praying this covid thing to pass.
        this years rain is believable, specially in the regions, on my way back i stayed in halhale for 3 days to skip the floods that hit the main road back to my destination K. via seney.
        how about canada, sure you had plenty of rain….. you know the story (joke) about what was said before ….. “at least it is raining in canada”
        thanks for the wellcome and stay safe.

        • Sultan

          Ahlen Wo Sahlen Ya Habibti Ikhtinna!
          Thanks for sharing the good news.
          At times, tight Dictatorship is essential in such type of situations like ours.
          Peace and safety first then the zibanghizi African / Ethiopian style chaotic democracy .

          This is one of the few things PIA should be credited for.
          There is nothing perfect but for now, what you witnessed at home is what we need at the very least compared to the unstable situation in our so called second homes, the Sudan and Ethiopia.

          In fact, it is a miracle to see Eritrea at this moment to keep itself peaceful and stable, when in fact, it was predestined and supposed to be the most unstable and failed nation!
          Let them go and figure it out what I am trying to say here.
          We should acknowledge and appreciate/admire besides giving credit when due.

          • sara

            selam bro … sultan,
            indeed our country is doing just “OK” on many aspects….in view of the global situation and that at a grate cost. as you know peace and stability do not come free…. and in Eritrea case our people are sacrificing so much on many things in order to retain that peace.
            yes,we should appreciate and admire our people stamina despite all the odds.
            the talk at home now is to prevail against covid 19, then to start a new eritrean journey of peace and prosperity with the participation of all eritreans at home and abroad…. just mark my word.
            thank you for the wellcome.

          • Sultan

            Abshirki Sara:
            Afki YissAr.
            Wo Insh’Allah/God willing, we will claim what belongs to us soon and compensate for the lost opportunities!
            The sky is /shall be the limit for Eritreans when they get the opportunity to do and to make possible and to achieve what might sound impossible and UN- achievable !

    • Nitricc

      Hey Sara; welcome back. I am glad you visited the mother land. I am glad the people are doing just fine, although you might have disappointed many TPLF lovers. Trust me they don’t want hear the good news. Anyway, how do you get to Eritrea? i mean did fly busing or on foot? I didn’t know the borders were open.

      • sara

        gen nit….
        comon, you should know by now our second home, doesn’t need visa
        air travel etc….
        i traveled by mini bus and i was kept for 8 days in quarantine to be sure i am free of covid 19/..and going out was easy no quarantine on the other side .
        thank you for the wellcome.

        • Abi

          Sariti shikorina
          Isn’t it frustrating when people don’t pay attention? You told us you are taking a bus before you left. I think you commented while on your way to the bus station.
          Pay attention people!

    • Consolation

      Hello Sara,

      Welcome back. No matter what their views, Eritreans should always be glad to hear happy tidings from their homeland. But unfortunately, we have among us people who pray day and night for evil to befall our beloved people and country. The following offering is a satirical take on that!

      ኣትን ሓፍተይ ሳራ
      ህዝበይ ኣብዚ ትውዕል ተገቲራ
      ክትሰምዕ ሓሳረ መከራ
      ናይ ካልእ ዘይኮነስ ናይ ኤርትራ።

      ከመይ ኣእጋርግን ይሰበራ
      ዓዲ በጺሕክን ክንዲ ትነግራ
      ሃገር ብኮቪድ በንበጣ ተወሪራ
      ጥሜት ህዝቢ ሻዕቢያ ሰቲራ።

      ከመይ ኣዒንትኽን ይንቆራ
      ተውግዓ ብዛዕባ ዳንጋ ጨጎራ
      ብዛዕባ ዝናብ ትስፍው ኣዝመራ
      ነዚ ክትግዕታ’ዶ ጌሽክን ነስመራ።

      • Sultan

        Bingo Conso.!
        Hahahah Consolation, unfortunately, that had been EXACTLY what we have observed here;and when some of us here have tried to neutralize and balance things, we get cursed and chased out!

  • Samuel

    Selam Forumers,
    Happy Friday!!
    Funny and embarrassing story of the week. On Tuesday (08/25/2020) Mike Pompeo was in Sudan, the main discussion was “removal of Sudan from terror list” and other regional issues.
    The embarrassing moment was, PMAA went there without formal invitation. He pretended as if he was there for “bilateral relations with Sudanese officials”. The funny part was that when Abiy greeted Mike Pompeo he said “Hey Mike, you gained weight, how are you?”, watching Mike Pompeo’s whole-body head-to-toe. 😊😊

    The meeting was for a brief moment, they haven’t discussed what Abiy was expecting to get, mainly the “photo op”.
    It is shameful how Ethiopia has gone downward spiral, from developmental state to “photo op” state.

    Thanks,

    • Aligaz G

      Samuel,

      Are you sure PMAA met Pompeo in Khartoum?

      • Samuel

        Selam Aligaz,
        Based on the information I got yes he did, but it was a brief and an informal way, just a greeting and brief talk.

        Thanks,

    • hawkeye

      Samuel,

      Abiy reminds me of Justin Trudeau – he’s got that young, naive, wannabe thing going on. Trudeau loves his photo-ops, too.

    • EritreanHillBilly

      It sound like you have something against the Prime Minister. I can’t see any reason or harm from a meeting.

    • Selam Samuel,
      The news that came out of Khartoum said that the two, PMAA and Pompeo, did not meet at all, and after the end of the meeting between the two heads of state of Ethiopia and Sudan, both leaders reiterated the fact that negotiation was the only way forward as much as the dam is concerned.
      Is this how digital woyane functions, by destorting facts and dispersing fake news. How could PMAA tell Pompeo that he has put some more weight without even encountering him.
      If Abiy wanted to meet Pompeo, he could have sent his FM.
      Next time try to make tplf propaganda look somehow real. It is a shameful thing to say outrageous things you can’t support with facts. Go and read ‘foreign policy’ on this topic.

      • EritreanHillBilly

        Are you saying Pompeo hasn’t gained any weight? Anyway what kind of diplomat would tell another one you are getting fat.. it sounds juvenile.

        • Selam EHB,
          It is said that more than 70% of americans are over-weight with many characterized as obese. That could be the result of riches, and the resultant over-eating. Pompeo looks big by east african standard. I don’t know, if he has gained some weight recently.
          The second part of your comment says a lot, because it shows that there is a hidden lie in what was written. Indeed, “what kind of diplomat would tell another one you are getting fat..”. It is the stupidest thing to say. It shows that it was fabricated.

      • Abi

        Horizon
        Rumor has it that average Tplf thug has an IQ not higher than his shoes size. Samuel is a textbook example with an IQ of 40.

      • Samuel

        Selam Horizon,
        Are you saying that Mike Pompeo’s visit and PMAA visit in the same day was a coincidence? Somehow the Sudanese officials scheduled them in the same day?
        Both visits had a separate agenda to discuss (officially), do you think somehow the Sudanese did that purposefully or by mistake?
        I am sure the details will come-out sometime in the future, for now let’s agree to disagree.

        Thanks,

  • Nitricc

    Hi All: Eritrea with highest IQ in Africa of 2020. Who ever made the least, he or she never met an Eritrean so called oppositions. However, as a nation in Africa 85 for Eritrea is really good. For Ethiopians, IQ ranked 69 according worldpuplationview.com/country ranking.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Nitricc,

      The highest IQ from African countries is Seirra Leone in West Africa with 91. Second Mauritius in East Africa with 89. Third Seychelles in East Africa with 86. Any way, you found something for your endless bragging – Eritrea become the fourth with 85. Refer to the link provided by Debas. I don’t think you know the African countries.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Aman,

        Do you believe this list? Eritrea has higher IQ than Nigeria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Zimbabwe?

        This must be some kind of joke.

        Berhe

        • hawkeye

          Hello Berhe,

          This list is usually used by white supremacists. It’s not based on any real data.

          • EritreanHillBilly

            You are absolutely right. Anyway, I don’t think any african countries should be proud given we rank so low on the list. Anyway, how do you calculate such a data- what is metric?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            hawkeye
            I couldn’t agree more.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hawkeye,
            The colonizers were measuring the size of the native and categorizing them by the size. Those with small heads were denied schooling and good jobs. I was reading such a book on Sudan. It’s disgusting. Dr Mengele must be proud of his legacy promoted by those he considered “sub human”! And he is dead.

          • Aligaz G

            Ato Saleh,

            Phrenology predates Mengele. And this is the first time I heard of such ideas being put in practice in Sudan. Normally they wouldn’t bother unless they plan on settling en masse and displace the natives like in Australia or the Americas. I think Sudan was considered a hardship posting if I am not mistaken and therefore not so attractive for settling. So probably used for screening military or police recruits.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saleh,

            Unless it is proved otherwise, A number of studies have established the correlations between size of brain and the intelligences human being. In healthy adults, the correlation of total brain volume and IQ is approximately 0.4 keeping all the factors that affect it constant.

            Regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hi Berhe,

          Ditto to my reply I gave to Dave.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Berhe; good things to come yet, for that brave nation and disciplined people despite your hearts ache over the good news. get ready for more headaches because great things to come yet. Amazing, you people got real problems. Why can’t you be happy? i thought this is your country and people? After all the white man in whom you trust said it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            You should know me by now how I and all other Eritreans desire to see Eritrea and Eritreans succeed.

            For example if the list ranked Eritrea the best in Africa in cycling, I believe it because it’s true. Or Ethiopia in long distance running. Or Cameroon in football etc. There is a record that proves it.

            But making this list without any widener to support is what I am questioning. I do when they rank Singapore number one in the world because they are, as the result of their IQ they are living it.

            Eritrea could also be in that category but the government has been destroying the very basic institutions that could make such success possible.

            Praising this list (specially if it’s true) it means endorsements of the slavery school of saws and other policy of the government.

            Then why bother opposing the government policy then?

            Eritreans do not need to feel good based on false praise.

            Berhe

          • Sultan

            Selamat Berhe:
            You are contradicting too much.
            There is plenty of EVIDENCE to substantiate that latest IQ Report.

            You just can’t believe it coz it is reported during the PFDJ Era.
            Historical Facts:
            -Eritreans have over-achieved where ever they are and they go .
            Cases in point:
            The best achievers in academia and business in Ethiopia
            Their business achievement in E Africa
            Their achievement during the Political and Armed Struggle
            The Israelis conducted a similar study few decades ago in Eritrea while doing the DNA analysis( Ancestry) focusing in Senhit-Keren area targeting the Blin( Blen) Tribe to confirm the relationship of that tribe to Judaism and Jewish influenced Aghew Dynasty and the Queen Judy( Yodit) ;and surprisingly, it was alleged that they confirmed that genetic relationship and the IQ of that particular to be closer to the Jewish People.

            There were Scientific Articles, which could be retrieved.

            But as I repeatedly cautioned, we are not saying that Eritreans are unique people or super humans
            Plus, environmental factors contribute to the IQ and achievements in life!
            “ Chighirr bilhatin yifetral”!
            FYI:
            Eritreans are not only good in Cycling but in all sports as you know better( Soccer, Athletics and Cycling)!
            Granted, I agree with you and the idiot Tamrat Neghera( Seghera)that the PFDJ Regime “ SCREWED UP” the hope and the potential of our Youth.
            But we can’t deny that Sawa still has contributed positively partially .
            As you might have read it, many students made many discoveries and innovations in Eritrea which we don’t hear a lot in other neighborhoods ( in the forums of IT/ Tech and Math among others)!
            Just as an FYI:
            The innovations made by our young Tegadelti by modifying the military hardware including the tanks and trucks is one of the tip of the iceberg!

      • David Samson

        Selam Emma,

        People still buy this load of crap, outdated 18th-century concept. How does an Aborigine measure a white European’s IQ and what would be the score?

        If politics is the lone yardstick measurement of IQ, Eritreans will scrape the bottom.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Dave,

          Outdated concept? I agree. I just commented to correct Nitricc; meaning even if he believes on the data, that Eritrea is not first in IQ from the list of African countries – just to taper his bragging.

          Regards

      • Nitricc

        Hi Aman-H i know you get a headache and allergic anything good news about Eritrea but i let you click in every African country and find it out for yourself. Why are you so negative about Eritrea?

        https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Nitricc,

          The same link shows Eritrea is not No-1 in IQ from the listed African countries. Eritrea is 4th in the ranks of African countries in IQ. You see Nitricc if Eritrea was the last in rank, I have no doubt you will complain as the work of whites to use for their ulterior political motives. Don’t you? Before you learn about Africa, learn about your country. That is too much for you to talk about IQs.

    • Consolation

      Nitricc,

      Funny, how they are all over the place to prove that Eritrea is not the highest ranked in the list. And these people call themselves Eritreans. But what do you think will happen to them when their paymasters are buried in two weeks time? They are so scared because if Eritrea emerge absolutely triumphant over the Weyane thugs, that would be so devastating that I am afraid most of them will find creative ways to end their lives.

      • Nitricc

        Hey Conso; the report didn’t even say that the Government has this IQ, it only stated the people and the country but why have this heartache? Do you see how fake and losers they are. This shows those who call themselves Eritreans, they are fake and they hate Eritrea and the people of Eritrea. This is absolute proof. They are in absolute pain their TPLF thugs in disarray and confusion, upon hearing such good news about the people and the nation they are in pain, let them kill them selves. more good news to come.

    • Selam Nitricc,
      First, congratulations to Eritrea. But, i have a question. When IQ is said to be a controversial measurement, and that it depends on national, political, and geographic factors, even climate affects IQ with warmer countries supposed to have lower IQ scores, government expenditures on education, prosperity and resources of a country affect IQ, thus poorer countries having lower IQ, and finally, even if a country has high IQ, it doesn’t always mean that it is the smartest nation, because IQ isn’t the only measure of intelligence, etc, don’t you think that IQ scores should be taken with extreme caution?

      • Nitricc

        Hi Horizon: I don’t know what their conditions to designate the countries as they did but let me give you my personal take. When they rank countries IQ, i am assuming they look at the overall peaceful co-exitance of the people of that country. It takes an IQ to live in religious harmony. It takes an IQ to live in peace and respect will all ethnics of that country, It takes an IQ of the people of any country not to burn their own properties and kill their own citizens. It takes an IQ not to fall to the ever elusive white man’s BS democracy. When why man say you need democracy, they knew it will never work but they also know it is a tool for African countries in to discourse, instability and source of ethnic unrest. while countries fight and argues about the fake democracy, the west gets in and do what they need to do, loot. It takes an IQ for a country to not depend on aid, INF, WB and the rest of institutional robbery tools. the lists goes on but you get my drift.
        So, it was for those reasons Eritrea earned the highest IQ in Africa, deservingly. So, for me, when you are you came home safely and live in peace in your country; then that is an indication of a nations IQ.

  • Yp

    Selam guys.

    So the regime has bad relationships with Qatar, Djibouti, TPLF, and Sudan Transitional Military Council. And now strained relationships with UAE and, in turn, Saudi Arabia.

    Also according to Gedab News, Eritreans with military background are allegedly being trained on the opposite side of the border. And opposition groups have started regrouping and being funded by Turkey and Qatar. UAE and Saudi have started also contacted oppo groups.

    So the regime is not only surrounded by enemies on all sides (which is a familiar state for them), but also managed to surround itself by richer and more powerful enemies in the region.

    The regime really excels at putting itself in sticky situations.

    • Saleh Johar

      yp,

      You said, “according to Gedab News, Eritreans with military background are allegedly being trained on the opposite side of the border. And opposition groups have started regrouping and being funded by Turkey and Qatar. UAE and Saudi have started also contacted oppo groups.

      Are you sure Gedab News reported what you are attributing to it? Please. correct your mistakes

      • Yp

        Saleh,

        I got it from this article: http://awate.com/uae-horn-africa-threesome/

        “The [unconfirmed] reports also indicated that Eritrean refugees with military background are being organized and trained in the region.”

        Of course, it’s just unconfirmed which is why I used the word allegedly. I don’t claim Gedab News said the latter part of my statement, just the former. I should’ve put that as a new paragraph. I don’t mean any harm, sir. 🙂

    • Consolation

      Selam YP,

      The regime really excels at putting itself in sticky situations.

      ትግርኛ ትዛረብ ተኾንካ ነዳይ ናይ ልቡ ይሓልም Otherwise, I will quote C.S. Lewis

      If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.

  • Nitricc

    In a related news, Eritrean sources said that the UAE has made indirect contacts with several opposition leaders

    Hi All; I stopped reading till that point. what opposition are you talking about? When Ethio-Eritrea made the peace and all Ethiopian oppositions went Ethiopia; Eritrea didn’t ask for Ethiopia to expel or anything the Eritrean oppositions that are in Ethiopia. Do you know why? Because there are no Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia, in that matter nowhere in the world. Don’t mix an opposition and opportunistic who gets paid to say a bad word or two against the nation and the president.

  • Dongolo

    Howdy all. TPLF support to radical Oromo Oromo Islamic faction which is striving for an independent Islamic state? Nobody wants to talk about the rumor, cuz it’s obviously so so sensitive, but it ain’t gonna go away soon and U.S. eyes are following the matter closely. To recall back In April 2012 Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi told the Ethiopian parliament that al-Qaeda was operating in the Oromo Arsi and Bale provinces. With tables completely changed these days, can it be true that a very desperate TPLF is financially and militarily supporting radical Oromo Islamic Arms?

    • Nitricc

      Look at events over the past few days associated with the Ethiopian Embassy in London.

      Hi Dongolo; I am not sure if the British government is behind all this. The police just stand there and watch the Animals go wild. There is something going on.

    • Selam Dongolo,

      What we saw at the Ethiopian embassy in London was the true face of violent extremism that had become the modus operandi of extremist Oromo ultranationalists, the querro and their leaders, jawar and others. It is no more an Ethiopian problem only, but a world-wide problem of terrorism, when embassy people are beaten and sent to hospital.
      Jawar and bekele g. can pull the string so that extremists can terrorize Ethiopians wherever they may find them. When jawar said ‘we will behead them’ in the past, today ethiopians are slaughtered due to their ethnicity and religion, when he said ‘ethiopia out of oromia’, here are his minions who are reverberating his call, and when he said that ‘oromia is islam and islam is oromia’, it seems that his message for an islamic state of oromia is well taken and in the course of implementation if they could succeed.
      When they shout, “down, down Ethiopia’, ‘release jawar and his group’, it shows that most importantly their problem is the existence of the country, and they are ready to destroy it by working with any international terrorist group. I hope that western governments have taken the message seriously that a terrorist group is forming in Ethiopia.
      What is the use that some extremist oromos complain that they have been barred from power for so long, when they don’t allow the region to be administered peacefully. It seems that what they want is to create an Oromo caliphate governed by the Ayatollah, jawar, and not to rule ethiopia.
      This is the litmus test for the regional government of oromia and the federal government of ethiopia to show that they have the will and the power to fight violent extremism and terrorism, so that no more innocent lives are lost because of their ethnicity and their religion, in the most inhuman way, in the hands of the so-called querro and others. The conspiracy by tplf, olf, olf-shennee, ofc and individuals like jawar and bekele g. will not succeed.

      • Brhan

        Hello Horizon,
        What has this to do with Eritrea?
        Thanks,

        • Selam Brhan,
          Maybe you should direct your question to the moderators/owners of the website.
          In my opinion, you seem to have misunderstood certain things. This website is meant to discuss the politics of Eritrea, Ethiopia and the whole horn of Africa, as we were told years ago.
          What we are saying is let’s not make it a venue where Ethiopian politics is discussed mainly, as it happens sometimes. It doesn’t mean that Ethiopia should not be mentioned or discussed, because the politics of Eritrea, Ethiopia and the whole region are intertwined. You can’t discuss Eritrea without mentioning at all Ethiopia or the other countries, unfortunately. There are times when the one or the other pops up.
          Dongolo brought the topic of the Ethiopian embassy in London for the first time, and i responded to that. I think that the whole discussion the past few days was about Eritrea, and i see no reason for complaint.

          • Brhan

            Selam Horizon,
            Thanks for your reply.
            You took my coment out of it context. I was refering to what is going on in Oromo Killil now days to do with Eritrea? Did Eritrea tell the Oromos to challenge the Ethiopian regime?

          • Consolation

            Selam Berhan,

            Many of the young Oromos, Tigrayans and Amharas who have been demonstrating in Eurupe and the USA sought and obtained asylum by claiming to be Eritreans. So, if the Brits were honest and reported the nationalities of those they have arrested, they would have told the world that they are Eritreans 🙂

          • Selam Brhan,
            I fail to understand what Eritrea has got to do with what i said. Did i say what is happening in oromia has anything to do with Eritrea? Can you point it out for me?

          • Brhan

            Selam Horizon,
            What you wrote initially ( you can reread what you wrote at first place) was about Ethiopia. An Ethiopian internal issue, thus, my question will be how this internal issue, the turmoil in Oromia is intertwined with Eritrea? Do you want help from Eritrea to stop the turmoil? I can’t understand. If you can’t answer this question , then let us stop the cycle and move on.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Horizon,
        As you know, our region has been in a cycle of ethnic confrontation for too long. Over the last few years the civil strife was rekindled. As sad as it is, it’s not a new experience.

        First it was Tigrayan, then Oromia and then Amhara, we Laura and others. Patriotic Ethiopians should rise above the foolishness and help calm down the confrontation. But no ethic group can claim to be totally innocent. You are all at it agitating the already agitated situation

        All ethinc groups have their share of violent ultra nationalists. For the most part, The Oromo have always been Oromo nationalist but unfortunately the sectarian divide is growing due to political reasons and because it is being politically inserted among them for ulterior reasons.

        The London issue is a London police issue, not a world “terrorism” issue whatever that means. I think Muslims have been victimized enough for decades and it heightened after 911. It has become stale to accuse Muslims as terrorists and depicting g their opponents as innocent lambs.

        If you think you can hang all the Oromo grievances and the current political wrangling in one man, good luck. One activist cannot be blamed for the action and reaction of the over 40 million Oromos. I hope the Ethiopian elite addressed the root causes of the crisis honestly and responsibly. Confrontation doesn’t help anyone. Partisan politics by those who should know doesn’t help either. But the irresponsible attempts to blame everything on Muslims and Islam does not help. It was tried for centuries and it brought only destruction and backwardness.

        • Selam SJG,

          The peaceful way is of course the best course to follow. The government tried its level best over the last two years to handle things through the peaceful way, by avoiding reciprocation. It was seen as weakness and fear, and the criminals moved from one crime to the other. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the government to protect the property, peace and security of its citizens. When innocent people are killed and their property is looted and the rest destroyed, and this has happened on many occasions, how long should the government have to appease with people who do not respect the law, their rights and their precious lives? The people have to turn to the government, and the government is obliged to protect them from such criminal who were roaming around with a list of names to be killed. In my opinion, for the first time it is trying to do something. I don’t know if saying let the government protect the people is agitating the situation. To whom else should these helpless people turn? It is not the first time, and it will not be the last, unless something is done.
          Religious extension was given first and foremost by the victimizers and not by the victims. Crime has no religion unless the criminal gives it one utilizing religious rhetoric. That is what jawar did, and some others during their criminal acts.
          Jawar’s fiery rhetoric, his tweets, his posts of fake pictures to accuse others, the fact that no other person in ethiopia has ever used social media as he did to stir up emotions, so that people commit atrocities, is a fact known beyond any doubt. The more than 86 people who were killed by querro after jawar’s tweet and burnt properties, and the direct and indirect role he played in agitating his supporters which resulted in the death of more than 160 innocent people last time, and the stealing of a corpse from its family by the querro he is proud to say that he controls, etc, do not make jawar an innocent person.
          In ethiopia grievances are a common thing. If one demands the correction of grievances through force, then all ethiopians should be against each other. That will take them nowhere. Why not the peaceful and the legal way. Where does ethiopia start and end for its people, why is that she is not safe wherever her people may live, whatever their ethnicity and religion? Why is that some people like jawar feel that they have the right to decide on such things?

          • Saleh Johar

            Horizon
            Everybody here can testify you are an intelligent person. But I am suspicious with people who alwayts advance the government’s line. That is because I am a victim of such transgression. And I am sorry to say, you advance the government position. At any rate, please realize i follow the Ethiopian social media and I see extremists outbidding each other–from all ethnic groups. And the victims have been wronged in monthly cycles not even seasonal. So, I have a problem piling up everything that is wrong in Ethiopia on the Oromo people–you are all in it.

            On Jawar, I can tell you are bitter with him–it’s your judgement. But i have see scary inciters, mostly sleek ones. I will give you this: if Jawar is behind all Ethiopia’s woes, hang him in front of the court. But first allow the court to say its word. Until then, whatever you say is rhetoric. I hope you respect your court system. Give it a chance. But believe me, the problems will not end because of one person nor will it start by one person.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Agree with u but the problem will not end by appeasing either, because the problem is some people r determined to loot people property, to kill other people just because who they r, to impose their will and ideology by force and to destroy ethiopia.
            Even eritrea problem is not over yet after 30 years of independence by referendum.

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            I agree with what you said. But I don’t agree troublemakers and looters belong to one ethnic group. All are in it unlike what is being propagated with a heavy dose of ethnic superiority. That is my problem.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Agree on all but ethnic superiority, one can act ethnic superiority unless he/she is tribalist, most of the people the has accused of “chauvinism” and “ethnic superiority” don’t even identify themselves based on ethnicity, they r even against tribalism.
            They identify themselves based on where they grow up or birth place or ethiopian.

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            Even the known tribalists and chauvinists do not admit they are. It’s upon the observer to see behind the prevention. Have you met anyone who plainly admits to being a chauvinist or a bigot? That’s what I thought.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            The Nazis, the interhamway, the White supremacist, the Zionist……all tribalist r bigots to others.

          • Saleh Johar

            Teodros,

            “The Nazis, the interhamway, the White supremacist, radicals, the Zionist……all tribalist r bigots to others.” !!!!!

            I am lost! Are you saying they are not? You say they are”tribalist and bigots to others” are they not so to you?

            Just keep in mind they all start small time agitators and then grow up to become what they became. Every society has an equal chance of becoming just that. Unfortunately some people are so intoxicated with temporary hight they think their superiority will last.

            I think this has become another circular debate, let’s move on. I am done.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            U asked me if i met anyone who plainly admits to being a chauvinist and bigots?
            my answer was, i have seen and it’s known that the Nazis, the White supremacist, the interhamway, radicals of any religion and all tribalist admits they r bigots to others.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saleh,

            The first who accuse about tribalism is a tribalist himself. A tribalist does not understand that he or she has a tribalist image expressed by what he says and acts. Some of the common symptoms are: proneness to vulgarism and rudeness, lack of civility, lack of humilities, and inabilities to communicate with the rules of engagement. They are fuels to social unrests. You could notice them with the trollers in this forum.

            One who fight for the rights of his own people is not a tribalist. Hence his argument does not hold water. You gave him the elements needed for common understanding that could contribute to the resolution of Ethiopian crises. Albeit, it is hard for tribalist to comprehend and talk about solutions.

            Regard

      • Samuel

        Selam Horizon,
        You seems to have selective memory and selective ultra-nationalists call.
        How about The heinous and indiscriminate mass killings of the Benishangule-Gumuz people by the chauvinist and irredentist Amhara ultra-nationalists in 2019? More than 250 Gumuz people were killed in three districts. Why have you failed to talk about it? I have never seen you mentioning about those killings? Did you?
        But, but you are always quick to blame and talk about small missteps of the Oromo protesters. Who is ultra-nationalist anyways? You or Oromo protesters? Go and check yourself.

        You said “Jawar said in the past, ‘we will behead them’”, do you know that ESAT has declared genocide call against Tigray people? As long as I remember you have never criticized ESAT for their inhuman media campaign. Does it feel fair for you to talk about any killings or wrongdoings in Ethiopia? You have never admitted the wrongdoings of Menelik, HS and Derg, so, who are you talk about the wrongdoings of others?

        By the way I can sense that you have deep deep…hatred inside you, please try to clean it up, otherwise it will eat you alive. If you were in power (PM) you could have easily repeated the Derg genocides long time ago.

        You said

        This is the litmus test for the regional government of oromia and the federal government of ethiopia to show that they have the will and the power to fight

        . 😊😊😊 is that the “Never lose hope” chant.

        Are you not lost hope on PMAA? What are you expecting from him? Miracles? He is pretending as if he has power, 10-KM radius? May be 20-KM?
        To tell you the truth, he is just waiting until his sponsors tell him to give-up. Mike Pompeo may have told him to get ready to leave the country or die like ground squirrel. Get real!

        Thanks,

        • Teodros Alem

          semuel
          I didn’t read ur whole hate and sadness after 2 line.
          what makes u think benshangule- amhara killings was between amhara and benshangule?. “Metekel is bordering the amhara kilil of agaw awe zone, over 90% who live in benshangule r from agaw awe zone.
          It good to see ur hate makes u licc oromos and gumz behind.

        • Selam samuel,

          Although i haven’t heard of the 250 killed in BG by Amharas, (it could have made big news), nevertheless, i am not going to deny it, because so many people are killed in ethiopia. You have not clarified, if it happened on one occasion, or throughout the last two years. What about Amara’s killed in BG until a few weeks ago? Is that in your blind spot?
          Today the Amara ethnic group is the most exposed to ethnic cleansing thanks to tplf’s ethnic federalism, because the amaras live dispersed all over the width and breadth of the country, usually assimilated with the local population, intermarried and speaking their languages. Tplf tried to break this bond and our people are where they are today.
          You present all the horrendous crimes that have taken place in oromia by extremist/terrorists as “small missteps of the Oromo protesters”. This is extremely informative of your callous, biased and partisan stand about what happens in ethiopia. Of course, nothing unexpected. So much savagery committed by extremist/ultranationalists and yet you call it a ‘small misstep’. When are you going to call it a crime? Maybe after thousands are killed, the whole region is destroyed?
          Jawar said it and lived to see it happen in front of his eyes. I wish it remained only words what jawar had said, as it is only words what esat seems to have said, according to you. I doubt esat has spoken of the people of tigray this way.
          Your problems are Menelik and all the emperors of ethiopia, esat, amaras and of course, Abiy. Excluding Abiy who is a newcomer (let’s give him some time to compare him with the rest), what tplf has done to ethiopia and its people is more or less equally bad, if not worse, because it is against the very existence of ethiopia and its people. Despite what you people say, this day and age is going to be known as the darkest hours in ethiopian history. Tplf’s ethnic federalism and article 39 are going to destabilize ethiopia for decades to come, and ethiopia will never recover fully anytime soon. Nevertheless, again it has nothing to do with the people of tigray, who are also the victims of tplf. Tplf tarnished their image and they can’t live, work and prosper all over ethiopia as they used to do in the past.
          If i have any hatred, it is for those who hate ethiopia and its people, those who have come with their poisonous program to disintegrate the country and they have no remorse or repentance, those who say, unless they rule her and suck her blood, she might not as well exist, those who work day and night to destabilize and disintegrate her, cooperate with her enemies, etc. Join the dots and you will reach at the right conclusion, whom i have in mind.
          Have you not lost hope with tplf? A similar question for you. It is quarantined in its small periphery, it is trying to make tigray a supernova of the ethiopian regional states, it doesn’t care for the people, but for the power of its senile oldies who have lost touch with the reality, has made tigray a satellite of ethiopia like the moon having nothing to do with the rest of ethiopia, a party abhorred by all, except the few oromo ultranationalist losers, its future bleak, and it will soon be discarded by the power of the people of tigray.
          A dream remains a dream, however you work on it in your mind, because the reality is a different thing. The demise of tplf is much nearer than that of the ethiopian pm, unless tplf sends another assassin, one of the so many useful idiots who are ready to do its dirty job, as it tried to do soon after his election to the post.

      • Dongolo

        Selam Horizon. Extremists are definitely already present in Ethiopia and are without doubt being supported by the TPLF in a desperate bid to destabilize PMAA’s Government. The U.S. is fully cognizant of the matter but trying to address it off the screen for obvious reasons.

    • no one

      what happend in Ethiopian Embassy in London has nothing to do with radical Islamic. It is simply aggressive Oromo youth opposing the government. Do not mix things for your Propaganda and Evil thinking.

  • Dongolo

    Howdy Folks. 1) Do you know the flagging history of the subject small vessel ex-UAE?; 2) Why should any country agree to receive any vessel without proper sailing advice notification and one that does not meet clearance requirements? 3) Groups of Dankalia Afars belong to a registered terrorist group and should not be allowed to receive TPLF financed arms along with food assistance.

  • Consolation

    Selam All,

    ወይ ኣነ ተረግመ፥ ኣይረድ ወሪዱኒ
    ዘይእመን ኣሚነ፥ ዝኸውን መሲሉኒ
    ክብረተይ ሸይጠ፥ ‘ታሰብ ትገብረኒ
    ዕስራ ዓመት ከዲመ፥ ኣልሚጸ ሽሓኒ
    ያኢ ሓንጊሩ፥ ኣስመራ ‘ተእተወኒ
    ሰሪቑ ዘሪፉ፥ ብልጭልጭ ኣርእዩኒ
    ጎቦታት ኣንቀጥቂጠ፥ ኣሚነዮ ‘ተበለኒ
    መዓስ ገሚተዮ፥ ከምዝስዓር ወያኒ
    ክዳን ከየልዓለ፥ እግረይ ኣውጽእኒ
    እንስሓብ ከምዝገብር፥ ኣበይ ተራእዩኒ
    መቐለ ከም ዝውሸብ፥ ተሰጕጉ ብእምኒ፡፡

    ወያነ ምስ ሃደመ፥ ስምባደ ኮይኑኒ
    ቀልባዕባዕ በልኩ፥ ቀልበይ ጠፊኡኒ
    ከህተፍትፍ ጀመርኩ፥ ኣብ ኣፈይ ዝመጸኒ
    ትሽየጥ ኣላ በልኩ፥ ተረኽብኩ ኣማኒ
    ይኣክል ጨደርኩ፥ ክንዲ ይኣኽለኒ
    መንያ ታትሽየጥ፥ ኢሎም ተሓተቱኒ
    ኤርትራ’ምበር በልኩ፥ ዓይነይ ናሳሓየኒ
    መን’ዩ ሸያጢ፥ ኢሉም ተሓተቱኒ
    ንሱ ባዕሉ’ምበሪ፥ በልኩ ከየሕፈረኒ፡፡

    ተጸበ እንተበልካስ፥ ተጸበ ኰይኑኒ
    ተዳልየ ኔረ፥ ክብል ይኣኽለኒ
    ሓዲሽ ወረ ነፊሱ፥ ተስፋ ዝህበኒ
    ጀነራል ተሸይሙ፥ መስፍን ክመርሓኒ
    ምስ ወያነ ኮይኑ፥ ኣስመራ ከእትወኒ
    ነዊሕ ከይጸናሕኩ፥ ወረ መጺኡኒ
    ፈሺልና ዝብል፥ ልበይ ዘቕሓረኒ፡፡

    ናይ ፖለቲካ ሸቃጦ፥ ኣይትረብሹኒ
    ብደውካ ምሕላም፥ ደጊም ይኣኽለኒ
    ብሰላም ክነብረን፥ እተን ዝተረፋኒ
    ምስ ህዝበይ ክዕረቕ፥ ይቕረ ተበሉኒ፡፡

  • Brhan

    Thank you Gedab News for your effort to bring news from Eritrea. Getting news from Eritrea is extremly hard. There is no a single neutral local or international media outlet in Eritrea.

    According to Sudan News of May 16, 2020, a United Arab Emirates NGO together with the UAE embassy in Ethiopia provided food assistance to Eritrean Refugee Childeren in Ethiopia. The UNHCR rep in Ethiopia praised UAE for this effort , said Sudan News.

    The regime in Eritrea has been at odds with those who try to help needy Eritreans. It has bad records wiith the UN, UNHCR and other humanitarian organizations.

    The regime insistes that the organizations must give the assistance to it but the organizations have a policy of distributing the help directly to the needy by themselves. That is how they have been doing all the time and to all. They can’t change their policy for the sake the of Eritrean regime. Due to this the regime sees these organizations as foes.

    In my view the distribution of the assistance by a UAE NGO and UAE embassy in Ethiopia must have angered the regime and as result a UAE NGO has to be punished.

    The UAE a new ally to Eritrea must have missed information of how the regime in Eritrea deals with humanitarian organizations and due to this, it allowed one of its NGO to do the same work (like, the May 2020 assitance to the needy Eritreans in Ethiopia) in Eritrea itself.

    But it falied to do so for the same reason mentioned above.

    Thanks again Gedab News

    • Dongolo

      Selam Brhan. You are incorrect when you assert that ‘The regime insistes that the organizations must give the assistance to it but the organizations have a policy of distributing the help directly to the needy by themselves. That is how they have been doing all the time and to all’. The U.N. World Food Programmer has for more than a decade been directly delivering food assistance in Somali region (& other parts of Ethiopia) to Extended Delivery Points (EDPs) where it is handed over to the Ethiopian Government who is paid to perform secondary transport to Final Distribution Points (FDPs) which include refugee camps. See, the international community buckled under the demands of the MZ/TPLF to allow the Ethiopian Government to directly deliver and distribute food assistance, but were unwilling to extend the same treatment to the Eritrean Government.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Dongolo,

        Dongolo the knowledgeable stone :-). You might have a point there. Equal treatment has not been the driving force of international orgs because of political considerations. But the sad side of all these is that our regime’s revenge falls on it own people፡ ዓንጾዓንጾ ንማዕጾ! ኣንጭዋ ዝበደለቶ ተኽሊ ይቕለጦ as the amharic adage goes (ኣይጥ በበላ ዳዋ ተመታ). The regime lacks flexibility to these orgs and to its people. It suffers from tetanic paralysis since its inception! Instead of injecting the regime toxins of rigidity why don’t you the knowledgeable adherents induce it to some internal and external flexibility? Eritrea cannot reinvent the wheel!

      • Brhan

        Selam Dongolo,
        You are reading history from 1998.But the relationship between the regime and the UNHCR started right after the liberation of Eritrea when the UNHCR planned to repatriate Eritrean refugees from the Sudan to Eritrea. The regime at that time started the mentioned policy that it is following it till now. You see if you continue to hang the dirty cloth to TPLF, you are depicting this front as the giant which in reality is not. That the TPLF has had policies that showed animosity to Eritrea and Eritreans is one thing but making it a scape goat for all Eritrean problems is totally wrong and can’t be toletated in your effort to find facts.
        ቻው ቻው

        • Dongolo

          Selam Brhan. You totally lost me. You suddenly and incoherently jump back more than 22 years in time. OK, let us follow your diversion tactic back to 1991 when Karin Landgren was UNHCR’s Representative to Eritrea. Do you know why she was declared persona non grata? Please enlighten me.

          • Brhan

            Selam Dongolo,
            This is about our people who have been refugees in refugees’ camps of Wad Sharifen, Shagarab, Abuda (may be these are new names of places to you) , in the Sudan since 1960s. I understand your attempt to depict my discussion with you as a “tactic” or “diversion” as someone who has no sense of humanity towards these Eritrean refugees: just like the dictator, ራዛ ናይ ኣቦኣ ሓዛ

            Karin Landgren served with the United Nations for over 35 years and is the first woman to have headed three UN peace operations mandated by the Security Council. She joined Security Council Report in May 2018 as its Executive Director. She was until 2015 a UN Under Secretary-General and head of the UN Mission in Liberia (UNMIL), a peace- keeping operation, and led UNMIL’s response to Ebola through the height of the epidemic. She has fat CV but and I can continue but do the research.

            A woman from Sweden, Karin, took repatriation as humanitarian act addressing the needs of our refugees but the dictator of Eritrea took it as an operation aimed at serving his political interests. He, who does anything (worse than declaring a person of non grata) to preserve his interest at the expense of Eritrea people, created and preserved obstacles to UNHCR. Do you think the UNHCR rep should have surrendered to him avoiding the rules of international laws? No. Was that the end of her career? Again no. Did the international community wanted her to continue in serving the humanity? Yes. Check her CV again!

            And speaking of persona non grata that you are bragging about , I will tell you this . A person can become persona non grata, but his or her institution that he or she represents continues to workp. To make it very clear to you I will give you two good and simple examples so there is no bragging in next time:

            Tekeste Ghebremedhin Zemuy was declared persona non grata by the Dutch gov’t but the Eritrean embassy is still working there in a condition the same mistake is not repeated again. The same token with the case of Semere Ghebremariam O. Micael , the regime’s former rep in Canada.

            The UNHCR is an institution formed by the international community. Eritrea is part of the international community. Unfortunately, it has a regime that prefers rule of jungle than international law.

            ናትካ ነገር … ሓጺሩኒ እንተበልኩስ ተደቢሩ ይስዕስዕ.

          • Dongolo

            Thanks Brhan for the hefty Wikipedia cut & paste but you avoided to answer my question. A few months after liberation back in 1991 (the only UN agencies actually present in Eritrea at the time of liberation were WFP & UNICEF), Karin and her UNHCR team arrived to Eritrea and started pressing hard for a UNHCR sponsored Voluntary Repatriation Programmer {VOLREP) for Eritrean refugees in Sudan. At the same time, Eritrea was already receiving thousands of refugees from Sudan who had spontaneously repatriated back home without the assistance of UNHCR. Especially back in 1991/1992, Eritrea’s infrastructure was either badly damaged, dilapidated or gutted and we had tens-of-thousands of demobilized fighters without employment or livelihood and we were clearly not in a position at the time to receive hundreds of thousands of Eritrean refugees from Sudan. Nonetheless, Karin went ahead with meetings (not approved by the GoE) at Kassala and Showak with Sudan’s Commission of Refugees ((COR) in an attempt to push UNHCR’s VOLREP. She promised things to COR without prior consultation and agreement of the GoE which led to unnecceasy confusion and hard feelings between Sudan and Eritrea; this being the reason she was declared persona non grata.

          • Brhan

            Thanks, Dongolo, the PF(DJ) cadre, for getting hidden info from PF(DJ) drawers. As you know Isayas Afeworki decides which info is released when and to whom. The regime hardly makes its actions public. At once the dictator has said ከምዚ ዓይነት ዜና ንተራ ኤርትራውያን እንታይ ክዓብሰሎም ኢዩ. Did Karin’s news was public? No. What is the use of it to us, Eritreans. The dictator discredits our intelligence.

            What I wrote about Karin is open book in the UN resources. Do you have a problem with that? Isn’t our country a members of the UN?

            You said :”Especially back in 1991/1992, Eritrea’s infrastructure was either badly damaged, dilapidated or gutted and we had tens-of-thousands of demobilized fighters without employment or livelihood and we were clearly not in a position at the time to receive hundreds of thousands of Eritrean refugees from Sudan”

            Well you answered my question: UNHCR attempted to help but the regime declared UNHCR’ rep persona non grata.

            Our refugee people are the same like the fighters. Or are you saying the later are better than the former? Isn’t this discrimination?
            I hope you are not doing that. And this leads me to another question, can you also check the drawer to find why the regime did not want these Eritrean refugees to return back to Eritrea? This time it is your turn to enlighten me?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dongolo,

            This is an excuse talking. Your boss wanted the money to be in his hand, and the aid to be distributed by himself. The humanitarian organization wether UN sponsored or NGOs refused to hear him. For them if their help is for repatriation it is for repatriation and If it is for demobilization, it will be for demobilization.

            Dongolo, there were also instances where the despot declined to take the humanitarian aid and returned from the port back to its origins. He told them, who told you we need humanitarian aids, we don’t need it. You can fabricate to fit your arguments, but the truth of the matter is that the despot is purposely punishing the Eritrean people.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Dongolo; Don’t waste your time, they won’t get it because they never understand the pillars of EPLF that is still at work that is
            Self-reliance, Social justice, holistic approach to all challenges and the roots of the struggle for independence. They will never understand the core values of EPLF and its vision.

          • Brhan

            Hello Nitricc,
            This is Awate.com, and not PF(DJ).com, where Eritreans discuss
            F R E E L Y in Eritrean issues. Why are discouraging Dongolo not to discuss?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Private nitricc,
            What do you know about EPLF? BTW, there is no more EPLF. It is now the twisted and ugly hgdf you adore. I am just saying this but I don’t have high hope for you, sole-cell, to understand it.
            Keep serving the USA as a low level soldier. ምኽዳም (your favorite word) at its best!

          • Nitricc

            ምኽዳም (your favorite word) at its best!

            Doctor, General, Engineer, professor, physicist. Chemist, take the rest. I say this knowing how you suffer from low self-esteem, low enough to demand acknowledgement because you are or wanna be an Engineer. My point you won’t understand if the Pillars of EPLF hit you in the face. You are too corrupted and self absorbed. it is deep.
            Any way what the hack does mean ” ምኽዳም” is my favorite word. I didn’t even what it means, Mr Doctor, General, Engineer, professor, physicist. Chemist………… I hope I made feel good. loser.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Dongolo,

            Somehow you remind of someone I use to chat here with.

            We all can say all we want, but there is no government entity called GOE but rather IA. He decides for anything and everything. He was trying to “punch above his weight” where the world/IA doesn’t give a damn what he can do or not. His address to the UN and the AU was of contempt he had for the International community. He was treating them as if the owe to him, personally, something.

            We got our independence, who the hell cares about the UN or anyone else. The government should watch for security concern but that’s all.

            The people have never asked any help from this government and they never will in the future.

            Look at the current corona crisis? What has the government done in order to provide food and supplies to the people?

            And please with this none sense…really

            Especially back in 1991/1992, Eritrea’s infrastructure was either badly damaged, dilapidated or gutted and we had tens-of-thousands of demobilized fighters without employment or livelihood and we were clearly not in a position at the time to receive hundreds of thousands of Eritrean refugees from Sudan. .

            This is total BS that’s repeated by EPLF then and it still does….what infrastructure was gutted out, or dilapidated…
            Why the EPLF decided to demobilize the tegadeliti in the first place. How was that possible the front was able to support all these tegadelit when they were fighting and they have nothing for them to do when they come to town.

            How about just keeping them tegadelti and incorporating them to the Eritrean army…The Derg had a lot of military personal than the EPLF if I am correct….that is housing, schools, medical needs etc…they didn’t take that with them. Why was it hard to give that to the tegadelti.

            And honestly I don’t think Eritreans would mind if the government build housing and other needs for the tegadelti family and handed them over.

            It’s not like they didn’t have the capacity..Didn’t they build the Sembel housing complex (enda Korea) or the housing in Massawa that they sold to Eritrean who can pay with forex currency.

            IA wants to dismantle the tegadelti and he didn’t want to see any threat posed by them. What’s the rational demoblising all these tegadelti and turn around and recruit without limit for the past 25 years…

            Berhe

            punching above their weight

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Derg left Eritrea in a “ move in “ condition with all the infrastructure intact. You are found to be irresponsible tenants. We are terminating your lease.
            Eviction notice coming your way…

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi

            I am not giving credit to Derg. They didn’t destroyed the whole country because they couldn’t, and surrendered after Asmara was in siege for months, because EPLF commanders patience / decision not to damage the city.

            When they did have the ability, they showed no mercy. Look what happened to Massawa including the bombing of civilians.

            I am just tired of hearing as if the IA/EPLF ever cared for the livelihood of the people.

            What ever was left, they destroyed it or in the process of being destroyed purposely (like UoA looks like ruin site) and the rest of the country.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            You don’t have to give credit to derg.
            የአስመራ ጎበዛዝት “ደርግ ይሻል ነበር” ካሉ ከራርመዋል:: ለጊዜው ያንተ አስተያየትም ሆነ ምስክርነት ሚዛን አይደፋም::

          • Brhan

            Hi Abi,
            Our lease have been terminated.
            We have been evicted from Oromoiya, Wolayta, Sidama, Harar ( where our Ras Mekonen’s statue pulled down by people chanting Neftegna Neftegna Neftegna).
            Do not do anything to send eviction notice. It is waste of time.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Berhe Y. Going back to 1991/92, save Asmara, Keren and Assab, most of Eritrean towns & cities had been badly damaged or destroyed. For example, everything below Ghinda to Massawa was badly shelled/destroyed. Freshwater piping system to Massawa had been destroyed and the port needed major renovation and was without any shore handling equipment. Assab port also needed dredging and renovation. Both ports were without tugs or necessary navigational devices. Road networks in country were in shambles from tank damage and a number of bridge passages had been destroyed.. Antiquated industries in Asmara had most of their valuable innards exported or cannibalized. There was no electric power source in Asmara save for one UN donated container genset. Not sure where you were at in 1991/92, but what I have seen on ground is in stark contrast to what you assert.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Dongolo,

            I was not in Asmara in 91/92 but all my families were there. I lived under the curfew of 78 for 4 year, the siege of Asmara didn’t last that long.

            I am not saying there was no problems, off course there was. But it doesn’t warrant denying the citizens from coming back home. I don’t think it was a legitimate reason to deny Eritreans to come home. EPLF / IA was using the excuse:

            1) Squeeze money from the UN
            2) He didn’t want them returned

            And we have heard on many occasions how the industry in Eritrea was antiquated (on the president interview) and instead of attempting / restoring them he was just mocking them they are useless.

            If it was left for the citizens and the EPLF run the country as any other civilian governments would, I am sure it wouldn’t have taken (a max of 5 years) to make the country vibrant and viable, not only for it’s own citizens but for a lot more others.

            The sad think in all this is, EPLF has managed to destroy, the knowledge and know how the people have acquired over 60 years from the Italians and they are not able to pass on to the next generations to build upon.

            Now 30 years later, with the exception of the Fred Hollows foundation, what industry has Eritrea created.
            What housing?
            What tourist attraction?
            What electricity supply?
            What water supply?
            what healthcare system?
            What universities?
            What Internet Services?

            The only thing that was build is the Sawa and militarization of the entire country. That’s all we know now….

            When the rest of the world has gone through tremendous development, we have regressed 150 years back.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Berhe; obviously you are going backward but to understand you better, let me ask you a question i never ask and I shouldn’t but what do you for living? or what are your credentials? What you written above is an indication of your ignorance to the facts in the grounds. You have no clue how Africa is where she is at, no clue.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            Stop saying Africa this Africa that. I don’t know how other African countries work, but Eritrea had a middle class and very hard working population.

            I don’t think it matters what I do for a living, but to speak in general terms, I am in technical field, where I am the guy to to fix problems:).

            I know Eritrea and it’s industry inside out. I grew up working in the auto / transportation industry from age of 5… I know the business, I know the people and I know the knowledge people had growing up.

            Eritrea had run on it’s own own from 1952 until 1991….by the combination of Combination of Eritreans (kebesa metaHit), Italians/ half Italians, Yemeni, Tegaru, Greeks, Jews, etc..

            Eritrea never depended on foreign imports except the row materials / chemicals needed for it’s industry. Some of the industries that I know personally:

            Enda Achi (dairy production, mile, cheese, etc)
            Enda Merenghi (botter production)
            Enda Zeyti (Oil production)
            Enda Barathole (fabric production)
            Enda Jani / Enda Araya (I think) ( Auto / Bus production)
            Dahlak, Chipoline (Shoe production)
            Enda Incodo (Meat processing)
            Enda Qorbet
            Enda Gonafer, Enda Setae, Enda Haregot, Enda Haji Hassen (bus transporation)
            Enda Cemento,
            Enda Nora,
            Enda Assa
            End Kisha
            Enda Mesmar
            Enda Melotti (and many wine factories)
            Enda Coka
            Enda Samuna (Soap)
            Enda Kirbit
            Enda Shigara

            Houndreds of Garage / Mechanic, bicle shops, feleNamo (furniture),
            Hundreds of tailors
            Hundreds of traders (fruits, vegetables)
            Hundreds of small business shops, Restaurants,
            Many bakers, Restaurants,
            Movie places, theaters, entertainment places (Ambassador hotel, Niala hotel), sports places (basketball, soccer, cycling)
            Many construction / builders and suppliers (tiles, brick, paints, stucco, roofing materials) you name it.

            When we grew up, there is absolutely that we needed that was not available / sourced in the country.

            There was no different to live in Europe or in Asmara at the time.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            As I told you several times before, ፀሐዩ ንጉሥ ኃይለስላሴ ዘእምነገደ ይሁዳ እና ቆራጡ መሪ ጏድ ሊቀመንበር መንግሥቱ are responsible for making life enjoyable in Eritrea.
            As you unwittingly admire their collective achievements , you said, “There was no difference living in Europe or in Asmara at the time “.
            Again, You don’t have to acknowledge the King or the Derg. It takes honesty and courage to do it. Apparently, You possess neither.
            እንደተለመደው ያመልጥህና እንደቀልድ ያለፈውን ዘመን በቁጭትና በፀፀት ያስታውስሃል::

            “ያሳለፍነው ዘመን ደስታን ያየንበት
            ተመልሶ ቢገኝ አሁን ምን አለበት”
            ( ጥላሁን ገሠሠ)

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know you get it but you do this all the time. These are Eritrean made, Eritrean operated or Eritrean inherited from Italians. Has nothing to do with Amharu (or those that spoke Amharic).

            Let me put it bluntly for you. Any job from someone who spoke Amharic did in Eritrea were:

            1) qebele liqe member
            2) keftegna liqemember
            3) ESEPA
            4) wenjel mirmera
            5) police
            6) wetader, asra aleqa, meto aleqa
            7) Amharic teacher
            8) aba Tor

            All useless piece of work, just controlling and ordering people.

            There was no:

            scientist
            doctor
            Engineer
            Mechanic
            Business owner

            In other words, there was no obi day there that come to help build the country or its economy.

            Compare that to the Eritreans who went to Ethiopia, it’s totally the opposite.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            ሰላሳ አመት የታገላችሁት አማርኛ ተናጋሪ የአስተዳደር ሊቃውንትን በትግርኛ ተናጋሪ ዝንጀሮዎች ለመተካት መሆኑ አነጋጋሪ ጉዳይ ነው:: ድሮስ ተራራ ላይ እድሜውን ከጨረሰ ጨጏር ዳንጋ ምን ይጠበቃል?
            እስቲ አሁን ደግሞ እድሜያቸውን Starbucks ጏዳ ውስጥ ያባከኑ እንግሊዘኛ ተናጋሪ የከተማ ዝንጀሮዎች ለአመራር መልምሉ:: የአክል!!

            ስትናደድ ሲያምርብህ ውበትህ ሲወጣ
            ደምሥርህ ይግተርተር ደጋግመህ ተቆጣ

            አጆካ!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; your post reminded me this funny but exactly what you are saying. Abi will never accept the fact but the fact is demonstrated by this clip. Moda it is Friday and Abi said weekend starts on Friday.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOoLmNJFplQ&feature=emb_logo

          • Abi

            General
            Definitely the weekend starts on Friday. Ras Abi is always right!

            ድራማ መስራት አገር ማስተዳደር አይደለም::
            በለዛቢሱ ድራማ እንዳየነው በደርግ ዘመን ኤርትራ ውስጥ የነበሩ ዶሮዎች በአሁኑ ወቅት ካሉ ህፃናት የተሻለ እንክብካቤ ይደረግላቸው ነበር:: ወፋፍራምም ነበሩ! ምግባቸው ገብስ ነበር:: የሚሸከማቸውም ፋራ ኤርትራዊ ይቀጠርላቸው ነበር::
            Thanks for the link. Talk about unforced error!

          • Haile S.

            እንደም ኣደረ ጀታው፡

            የጠቅል ኣሽከር ተነሳ
            በጥዋቱ ፉከራ እያገሳ

            እኔ መርጫለሁ ዝም-ጀሮ
            ስድብ በዛ በዓወተ ዘንድሮ

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ሻኛውን መሸከም ያቃተው የሰባ ሰንጋ የሚነዳ ይመስል አውራ ዶሮ ተሸክሞ የሚንጎራደድ ፋራ እንድናደንቅ ምልምል ሚሊሽያ ንትርክ ጋብዘውናል::
            ይቅርታ ይደረግልኝና ዶሮ ተሸክሞ የሚፎክር እስከዛሬ አይቼም ሰምቼም አላውቅም ነበር:: አሁን እድሜ ለአዋተ ድህረገፅ ሁሉንም እያየን ነው::

            “ያ ዶሮዬ ጮኸ መንጋቱን ነገረኝ
            በዛሬ ቀን ላርደው ቀጠሮ ነበረኝ”
            (ታገል ሰይፉ)

          • Haile S.

            Abi and Awate people,

            There is a 1979 video attached below.

            ጀታው

            ይሰፋል ቆቡን ቀዶ፡ ሥራ ያጣ መነኩሴ
            ሙቪ-ሰሪ ምን ያድርግ መሪ ታጣ እንደ ሙሴ

            ጀታው ችሎታ ይስጥዎት ማየት መስማት በጽሞና
            እስታ’ሁን የተረፈን ቆባችን መቅደድ ነው’ና

            እኔም በበኩሌ ቆቤን ዛሬ ልቅደድ
            ይሄውልህ በswiss french (RTS) የተቀዳ የ1979 ሰነድ

            ዓላማየ ኣይደለም ለመውቀስ፡ ለማከክ ቁስል
            ለትዝታ ነው ለቀድሞ ታጋዮች ማሳየት የትግሉ ኣባል

            https://www.rts.ch/archives/tv/information/temps-present/3434985-lethiopie-dechiree.html

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ምነው ሊቀመኳስ እንዲህ ተሳሳቱ
            ቆብዎን ቀደው እንዳይፀፀቱ!
            ካባዎን ጣጥለው በብርድ እንዳይሞቱ!

            የአምና ታጋዮች ወንበዴ ‘ምላቸው
            ዘንድሮ በብትር መሪዎችህ ናቸው
            ለከርሞም ይኑሩ እድሜ ያብዛላቸው
            እኔ ምን ተዳዬ አንት ከወደድካቸው
            ገድላቸው ይዘከር ሻማ ይብራላቸው!
            ከርሞም እንደአምና እናሞግሳቸው!

            መባቻው ላይ ሆነህ ዋዜማ ማወደስ
            ማግስቱን አትርሳ እንዳንወቃቀስ

          • Saleh Johar

            Thanks Hailat,
            A very expressive documentary that shows the child killer systems that ruled Eritrea and some feel proud of. Thanks again

          • Sultan

            Abisha:
            This is not just a drama but a daily life of Eritreans during the Derghi Era.
            Me and my uncle were barely shot down by tor serawit on a day light while traveling through the mountains of Beggu and Che’EtTet from Keren to join my younger brother’s wedding….
            My 85 yrs old grandpa and my brother had same problem while traveling to keren with their Firewood loaded Camel , almost shot down on a day light.
            I survived a shooting out by a guard in keren while I was walking to my hotel at 705pm since I missed the curfew at 7pm .
            You can’t talk or play down about things you have NO CLUE about.

            I think I advised you in a decent way to give up on these issue and talk constructively for peaceful coexistence and economic integration of both nations if at all your Ethiopia will survive as a nation, as Ethiopia that we know today,rather than living in the past and trying to rewrite a history that is already well written with/in blood .

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            Your Majesty,
            ድራማው ላይ እንደሚታየው ገብስ የተቀለበው አውራ ዶሮ ከመወፈሩ ብዛት መራመድ ስለተሳነው የቀድሞው ጨጏር ዳንጋ በርሄ ተሸክሞት ሲንገዳገድ ይታያል:: እኔማ ግራ ግብት ብሎኝ እንደው ይህ ነገር ሰጎን ይሆን እንደው እንጂ ዶሮ ይህን ያህል አይተልቅም ብዬ እራሴን ስጠይቅ ነበር ::
            ይህ ድራማ ቁልጭ አድርጎ እንደሚያመለክተው በደርግ ዘመን እንኳን ሰው ዶሮውም በምቾትና በድሎት ይኖር እንደነበር ነው::

            ታጥቦ የተቀሸረ ገብስ የተቀለበ
            ቀበጥ አውራ ዶሮ በቅጥ የተዋበ
            በአንቀልባ ታዝሎ እንዳይነካው አፈር
            ድራማ ሲሰራ ህዝቡን ሲያጭበረብር
            ኢሱ ደረሰና ቀላቀለው ከአፈር
            አንገቱ ላይ ቆሞ እንዳይሞት እንዳይሽር!

            ድሮስ አውራ ዶሮ መሬት እንደመጫር
            አለቦታው ገብቶ ጠግቦ ሲውተረተር….

            አቦ አታስለፍልፈኝ ይልቅ ደህና ጨዋታ አምጣ

          • Nitricc

            Hi Brehe; i will post detailed response but one question Why do you think that happend, meaning Eritrea lost all those industries?
            and my advice ……..

            Never stop learning because life never stops teaching

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitric,

            It’s obvious why Eritrea lost those business, because IA and the Red Sea corporations did not want them to operate, because they know how to run controband rather than legitimate business.

            It’s quite simple really. Why do you think the mafia rather run illegal operations rather than doing real job. Simple, there is more money for the few and its easy and it’s lazy.

            Isayas Afeworki and his gangs they rather import coke cans or goods from China rather than build / operate it there, because they make more profit at the expense of the society well being.

            They don’t care about the society but rather about their own power and survival by oppressing the people.

            You know why? Simple. They don’t have the confidence and they know how to run a country.

            Didn’t you hear his interview?

            Where is Massawa ? It use to be the pearl of Red Sea but it’s nothing now. That is his own words.

            Spare me weyane this weyane that, US or that. Eritrean people do not need anyone to build their country and their economy. That’s what Eritreans do, where ever they go they build and succeed.

            I never stop learning and I am not stopping my life. I wish I can go home and help build my country.

            If PFDJ is gone, I will go the next day. I will work for free. My first job is I would like to do is, restore the governor palace and the Italian bank in Massawa and turn them into museums.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            There was no difference living in Europe or in Asmara at the time.

            Hi Berhe; So, Asmara is Eritrea. You see, this is the problem. there are other people, villages, towns, areas. Asmara is one of the places in Eritrea, not her self Eritrea. I can’t blame for not knowing because when people are blinded by hate and resentment, nothing good comes out of it. Eritrea had a unique opportunity to not make the same mistakes of African countries. And there was a plane that was put together 1988 by EPLF big kahunas. The plane simply put bottom up system while activating in full, self-reliance. In order to execute the plan, they must start from the scratch, meaning they have to destroy the previous system which is top to bottom. How do you change a system from Top to bottom to bottom up? You have to freeze and change course by that you shut down the economic sources of the Top which is Asmara. That is the reason why all the toothless companies you mention were closed. If you let everything as it was the people will come to look for a job to the capital city and here it goes you plane going in to pieces. For instances, take Addis Abeba; most probably the most dense and populated capital city and growing. To give you a picture, the entire Eritrean population lives in Addis. Why are they people going to Addis in doves? Well that were the jobs are, that were the lights and all the flashy things are. You can blame the people, blame the government. Had the Ethiopia government built what the they need in their villages; they won’t go to Addis. When people move than many and live that dense, nothing comes good from that. crime, housing problems, prostitution, organized corruption is unavoidable. This is all African problems and the government of Eritrea went in a different way and had to break the mold and start over. What is amazing is it is working. Do you think people from Tesenay, Keren and the rest of Eritrea will move to Asmara? Of course not, because they have what they need in their village and towns. For the system to work many normal practices must be unnormalize to get to the point. I think on your own mind when you see those unnormalized things in action, you are shocked and you go wild. You know it okay to think. You don’t have to pick up trashes by the so called oppositions and spit it back without a shared of thought.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            Let me take it that you want me to lust the other towns as well. I thought it was obvious because I was talking about industries but off course they source the row materials from the rest of the country. Let me attempt to increase my list.

            Incode (meat processing plant) won the world title for the best meat processed products in the 50s. All the livestock come from the Eritrean lowlands. It was very common an Eritrean farmer in aqurdet to have livestock’s in the thousands (as in 10 thousands).

            Debadai had the fruit farm in Eli berEd.

            Baratolo (textile) got its cotton from ali gidher.

            So to expand the city and the list:

            Massawa
            Keren
            Aqurdet
            Tesseney
            Aseb
            Mendefera
            Deqemhare
            Adi qeyH
            Berentu

            Just to just a few…Asmara was the capital but the whole county fed to the market.

            There was yes remittances:
            There was foreign aid
            There was UNDP or NGO except few related to the churches as in schools, clinics etc.

            There was railroad that connect Massawa all the way to aqurdet. Can you picture that,,,

            EPLF keep saying, we build roads, what roads did they exactly build. With the exception of useless road between Massawa / Aseb every road existed before. In 30 years they did nothing, absolutely zero.

            They talk about dam, mini dam then where us the water? Why there is water shortage?

            The rest of your connect I will get to.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            General
            I think you missed Berhe’s valid point when he courageously compared life in Asmara with that of Europe.
            He was referring to the Italian colonizers. The colonized people didn’t come to his mind.
            እዋይ !!

          • Consolation

            Aye Berhe,

            I find most of what you write to be meaningless rant. I ask you a simple question, if life was so good back then and so bad now, why has the life expectancy in Eritrea has gone up from 50 years in 1991 to 65 years in 2017? Why is the average IQ of an Eritrean the highest in Africa?

            https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

            ኣይጠቅምንዩ ኔርና ኔረ
            እንተዝምርመር እንተዝጻረ
            ኣተዓባብያና ከመይ ከምዝነበረ
            ሓንቲ ካምቻ ሓንቲ ስረ
            ምሳሕ፥ ጣይታ ምስ በርበረ
            ክንደይ ይሓድር ከይተደረ።

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation
            1. Life expectancy in Eritrea went way down…to 15 or so because most leave the country…no life at all.
            2. Average IQ highest in Africa? Wrong again. Even though this ranking is biased, still it is not the highest in Africa. Take a look at the ranking again. Actually, it should depress you rather than making you happy.
            ‘ንዳ ህግደ መንደፍ ደሓን ኣይትእተዉ ዓድና ቀቲልኩማ።

          • Consolation

            MM,

            I understand your anguish. After all the IQ in Tigray is 20 points lower than in Eritrea. So which country in Africa has a higher ranking than Eritrea in the biased data. Come on, go through it and point out one country that has higher IQ than Eritrea.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Consolation
            I believe Sierra Leone is in Africa and it has 91. I don’t think I believe Tigray is 20 points lower than in Eritrea, looking at what they have done but I start to believe you are like your boss, Isayas. Why do you guys feel ashamed of your parent’s place, Tembien? 🙂

            Now, say it if you have a gut, Isayas is Tembienay. Say it. I don’t think so.

          • EritreanHillBilly

            Hello Mr. MM,
            I coming to this forum for comic relief…

          • Consolation

            EHB,

            If we are agreed that the IQ measure is biased then since the bias works equally on all, then although the quotient does not actually measure intelligence, it does measure performance on what ever the test applied is. Thus, the comparative aspect of the numbers does convey valuable information. In other words, the IQ ascribed to Eritrea is 85 and that of Ethiopia is 69. And I would venture that of Tigray would be not more than 60. I am sure a person of high IQ as you would not miss that the average intelligence of a Tigrayan is about 3/4th of that of an Eritrean.

          • Saleh Johar

            EritreanHillBilly,
            So far, you posted the only sane comment on the topic of the laughable IQ gimmick. The rest are either cult- defense ir pure fascistic.

          • David Samson

            Selam MM,

            One thing which has proven wrong so far is the demise of “Cathédrale.” When I told my friends that IA might take down the symbol of our city, many of them were horrified and shocked by how I even contemplate such a crazy idea.

            Recently, Asmarino.com has published photos of Asmara before the Chogar Danga had rolled in with their tanks and what the city looks now. I am sure that many people who were born or spent part of their life in the city are saddened by its demise and appears to be the shadow of its past glory.

            Many Eritreans did not pay attention to what IA said during an interview he gave in the early 90s:

            How do you define an Asmarino, or are you an Asmarino? Was the benign question.

            IA shrugged off the question by saying:

            “We never heard this term before we went to Meda and it must have invented after we left the city”.

            The last socio-group to have fallen out with IA is the Catholic community. They had been spared from all wrath of IA, well, until recently. People who have never raised any eyebrows on IA despite all the wrongdoing on other faiths suddenly sprung and jumped the queue into the front-line. IA did not even react to the famous open letter by the bishops of the church: where is your brother?

            Using the pandemic as cover, IA has threatened to shut down the only Italian school left in Eritrea: Principe De Portigo”. This action had sent shock waves in the Italian capital— Roma. The Parliament had debated the issue and meant to send a delegate to Asmara. That was the last news I heard from a Half-Italian friend— who was educated at the same school.

            Who knows? My prediction might not be bonkers after all. Once IA is done with all things Italian, he might focus on his last hurdle and prove me right.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            If what I said s useless rant, can you refute it with useful fact.

            1) What industry has PFDJ created in the last 30 years, which is better that it was before. As in better in production, quality, export, number of employee etc.

            2) life expectancy has gone up for almost all human race in the world, and it has to do with the availability of vaccines, advancement in medicine, people behaviour, and decrease of maternal health.

            Tell me any country in Africa it’s life expectancy hasn’t improved, unless it’s affected by other factors such as conflict.

            3) I started refuting the arguments all PFDJ people make that, Eritrea was in ruins, it’s infrastructure was destroyed and they have to start from negative (as if they had to pay debt to anyone) which I tried to show it was all lie.

            4) 30 years later, there is nothing to show, except it build a society that could not wait to leave every opportunity it got.

            5) Eritrea has the average IQ in Africa. I don’t know if it’s true but if it is, PFDJ has nothing to do with it. And what has this high IQ society has produced so far?

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Aye Berhe,

            30 years later, Eritrean life expectancy has gone up by 15 years from 50 to 65. That is a real measure of progress. Now, since your rant claims that life was better in 1991 (you were then living like Europeans) than today, life expectancy should decrease irrespective of what is happening elsewhere.

            Asmara is not Eritrea. A few factories in Asmara may have seemed to you that you were doing well when as a labourer you were probably earning 2 birr a day. The Eritrean development is not to concentrate all your eggs in one basket but to spread it throughout Eritrea.

            Now, ask yourself how many schools did Eritrea have in 1991. Today it has 842 schools. How many hospitals, health stations, clinics have been built in the last 30 years? What is the annual grain production today as compared to 1991? How many people have access to clean water today as compared to 1991? There are hundreds of such metrics that measure the progress of a people. As for the IQ of an average Eritrean being the highest in Africa, click on the link and educate yourself.

            What low IQ people forget is that for the past 20 years Eritrea was in a state of war. It had to defend itself from a rabid enemy who would have erased our sovereignty if Shaebia had not developed the defence strategy it did. So when you complain that Shaebia did not industrialize Eritrea concomitantly as it were using a significant portion of its resources in its defence, then you are paying Shaebia a huge complement. But no matter how much you rant, no one can claim to be more concerned about Eritrea than those who devoted their entire life to it. No one.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            We know your PFDJ equality by subtraction plan. Why Asmara and other cities have to be reduced so others can develop.

            This life expectancy improvement and Eritrea meeting MDG is crap report generated for the useless UN development partners who only want to produce good report so that they keep their lucrative UN jobs.

            Every generation life expectancy have been improving for generations, Eritreans are yes different and the government can not take credit for. If Eritrea was a unique case in Africa / world then you can brag about, otherwise its the natural phenomenon of genetics and evolution is at play, plus advance in medicine that’s really available through the UN and other foundations.

            I know the number of school and number of students in 1991? Do you? And there was a lot of reason for that.

            Do you know what the number of students and schools was in 1973/74.
            Let me give you a hint, even if I believe the number you gave us true, it’s not even doubled, in almost 50 years.

            How many homes have been build in Eritrea ?

            How many hospitals have been build?

            How many business have been opened?

            How many factories have opened?

            How many jobs have been created?

            How much gdp per capital have improved?

            All these measures are negative, I am pretty sure.

            All PFDJ did is enslave the whole society and work to serve the few people who are his enemy (seb demu) to benefit.

            There are close to 2 million Eritrean refugees world wide? Why so many people go to exile if the country have done so well?

            PFDJ and the president, are parasites to the country, they just suck the country and it’s resources.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Aye Berhe,

            The imminent death of the TPLF thugs is deranging many people. ጽንዓት ይሃቦም ኢልካ ምሕላፍ ኢዩ::

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            That’s it. You have nothing else to say. I don’t understand why you give TPLF or anyone else so my big deal, when you have the Eritrean people to depend on for any threat that comes.

            Haile DurE said it best, weyane nmerhaHti aTelaqimuna nerom, (meaning they wet Isayas Afeworki) if it wasn’t for the gallant Eritrean defence and the Eritrean people.

            How true, and you are suppose to be protecting the country.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            ኣየ ሃይለ፣

            መን ከምዘጥልቀየስ ኵልና ንፈልጦ ኢና። ሕጂ ግን ሓመድ ድቤ ወያነ ቀሪቡ ስለዘሎ፡ እቶም ቅርጸት ዝሓዞም ዘርባባዕ ክብሉ ንቡር ኢይ። ኣዋጽኦ ይሃቦም።

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            If weyane get buried or made to be kings, it’s the problem and worry of the Ethiopian people. I do not care.

            But why you associate any one who oppose the policy of the pathetic government, they do it because of weyane.

            Aren’t you contradict yourself. On one had you are saying Eritreans have the highest IQ and at the same time, they do know know when to praise propose their government. They are incapable but they need to be told and controlled by weyane.

            Are you saying, weyane have better IQ than Eritreans, because they control them including their thinking.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Consolation
            የምትፅፈው ሁሉ የጠፋብኝን አጎቴን “መዝሙረ ዳዊትን” ያስታውሰኛል::

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dongolo,

        The regime of Eritrea is too archaic to play by the rule of engagement for its own sake and to help the Eritrean people by extension. So don’t complain to the international communities. Complain to your government.

        • Dongolo

          Selam Amanuel Hidrat. You completely missed the point. There are no rules of engagement related to international humanitarian assistance. Please keep within your domain of knowledge.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dongolo,

            For everything there is a rule of engagement. Don’t be naive. As a former employee of USAID in Sudan, I know how funds are allocated, aids are distributed, and the role of the givers and receivers of governments on the aids.

            Second is that your domain of knowledge that you are talking about it, while you are telling me I could not talk on the issue?

          • Dongolo

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat. Again you completely missed the point. Things have changed since 40+ years ago.

      • Sultan

        Selam Dengolo:
        Disclaimer :
        While I “ deplore and even “condemn” the crimes committed by few of The Church’s Leadership members and few of its Faithful members , I am a Catholic Faithful and the beneficiary of everything it could provide and am behind by the same Universal Church for its fight for Social Justice for all people of the world with all types of background.

        But I joined the Eritreans, who protested against the Church when it refused to hand over the live-saving aid in 1980s to the EPLF to help our needy people in the liberated areas; and worse, rather,the USA based Caritas of the Catholic Relief Services handed over the aid to the Derghi .
        That aid never reached the needy people.
        The justification they gave is?
        The US Department blocked it since the aid was through the US Govt/ USAID, which places preconditions and restrictions as who should be helped or not!
        This is 36 yrs ago !

        Talk about the double standard in 2020.
        The EU,fully knowing that the PFDJ Govt with all its perceived and real failures and mis-governance uses the aid fund effectively and efficiently more than any other govt in the world including refunding/ crediting back the left over funds to the EU,it recently refused to help the Govt of Eritrea when the PFDJ Govt asked for help the COVID-19 crisis.
        The refusal to release the Aid Fund includes the $200 million initially allocated for Eritrea, which apparently was rerouted to the Sudan.
        The reason?
        Since the GoE refused to abide by or comply with the preconditions placed by the EU including improving the human rights , as lobbied by the so called Human Rights Activists , which celebrated the blocking of the Funds since , in their crooked belief that blockage of the Aid will expedite the fall of the PFDJ Govt, which in reality, such sanctions have NEVER hurt the regime but the poor Eritrean people, like it has done to the poor people of Iraq, Syria and Libya and their respective countries.
        Here is the hypocrisy of the hypocrisies:
        The EU and the so called Human Rights Activists and Eri Opp were, not only no where to be spotted when the TPLF was doing the most destructive acts under the sun against Eritrea and Eritreans but were also supporting the same Criminal Gang and standing against Eritrea and Eritreans politically, diplomatically, economically and militarily.
        The same EU led by Angela Merkel of Germany rerouted the $500 million aid to the then TPLF Govt in order to create jobs for Eritrean Refugees in Ethiopia thereby to minimize the refugee influx to Europe.
        Same entities have been responsible for a FREE RIDE for an automatic approval for asylum for anyone and every one, who claims to be an Eritrean until they become overwhelmed,the PULL FACTOR at its BEST.
        The rationale ?
        Ask a second grader Eritrean for an answer since it is as simple as 2+2=4!
        This is when the EU / Germany had a moral and even legal obligation to help directly the original country of the refugees , Eritrea, to create jobs and build Vocational Schools!

        I commented at that time declaring this hypocrisy and immoral act “The HYPOCRISY of the Century”!

        Remember as to who petitioned and lobbied to halt the initial $250 million EU Fund to Eritrea when Eritrea was at its worst economic crisis few yrs ago?
        The TPLF along with the mercenary Eri Opp , the self-appointed Human Rights Activists led by a certain Dutch Prof, which I hate to mention her name.
        We got a copy of the TPLF ‘s underground strict guidelines secretly distributed to the pseudo-Eritrean OPP and Activists.

        “ Asmarino.Com and awate.com were the selected top web sites for the petition against the EU Funds to Eritrea (like/as they were during the initial sanctions against Eritrea in 2009!).
        Not only the vessel from the UAE but even camels carrying “ food aid” from Ethiopia/ Afar Region to our Afars were blocked since they were not authorized by both Ethiopian and Eri Govts.

        It was alleged that they were sent by the TPLF.
        While I deplore any negative action by the PFDJ directly or indirectly to hurt the Afars of our Denkalia, I would support blocking any unauthorized vessels or camels entering Eritrea.
        How in the world could the UAE allow such vessels to enter Eritrea without notifying the GoE?
        Fishy, isn’t it?
        If it does , well, it is allowing an illegal activity.
        Either way, I doubt that such mini incidents would lead to the straining of the 50 yrs old Eri-UAE relationship.

        It is all about politicizing things and to sabotage the PFDJ Govt in my opinion.
        But the threat against Eritrea and Eritreans by Turkey and its “partner-in -crimes”, Qatar cannot and should not be ignored,for obvious reasons.

        • Dongolo

          Selam Sultan. Back to the 80s, I remember having interesting private conversations at the time with Padre Vittorio and Padre Olympia in regards to the atrocious actions of Abba Paulos from CRS. Though, I have fond memories of Daniela Silla from CRS :j. You are indeed correct in regards to what you mention on the hypocrisy side.

          • Abi

            Hello Dongolo
            You should write a book. PERIOD!!!!
            I’ve learned a great deal reading your comments.
            Where are you these days? In a Land cruiser somewhere in Africa? Enjoying a glass of fine wine in southern Italy? Somewhere in Addis eating kitfo ?

          • Dongolo

            Thanks Abi. I am actually now in a very boring part of the U.S. Midwest. Strange how our food tastes change over the years. Seems like most of the food I’m am eating here, seems to be heavily laced with corn syrup and that goes for everything from Fritos, to Asian and Italian food. Can’t stay here long for I will after a while either starve or become obese.

          • David Samson

            Selam Dongolo,

            Good gracious me! I have never imagined I could agree with your politics, but an exception must be the devil’s work.

            I hear and feel you. This is how I feel whenever I visit the Land of Satan. Many people from across culture usually eager to tuck in or enjoy good food, but I dread eating food while in the USA. On my last visit, I lost 10KGS. I always tease my friends by saying if I want to lose weight, I should visit the Land of Satan. My sister was so worried that I am might starve myself to death.

            USA’s food is massive, tasteless, textureless, and greasy. When I visit Italy, it is quite the opposite: crave food.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat David,
            If I am not mistaken you live the UK.
            If I am right:
            1. There is no one bigger than UK of being the Land of Satan. The source of all the evil doings in this world.
            2. I thought UK’s food was one of the worst in the world?

            Visit California and you will change your statements soon.

          • David Samson

            Selam MM,
            Point one:

            You missed my point. The phrase “Land of Satan” was coined by late Kho meini in the 1980s. I use it if I want to talk bad about the USA. If I want to talk positive, I use the phrase “Land of Opportunity”.

            As with many Eritreans, you might have grown up consuming the one-side history—narrated by Ghedli.

            I have met a few British people who could justify their chequered flag history. The majority admit mistakes and wrongdoing, many even feel shame. The BBC being riddled with PC even refused to sing the “Land of Glory” during this summer’s Prom. We all wish we could go back in history and rewrite it.

            The British found themselves in Eritrea by accident (Did not Michela Wrong said it?). They were eager to offload it but were unable to find a receiver.

            They found the inhabitants were tribal and clan-based. They felt it would be in their best interest if they could group according to their allegiance to tribe and clan. We know we call this evil intention by the British as “Divide and Rule”. Did not past Ethiopian rulers apply the same rule supposedly invented by the British? I thought many Ethiopian accused the TPLF led government as “Apartheid” which could be considered worse than “Divide and Rule”.

            Point Two:
            Agree! I do not think many Brits could dispute it either.

            I once bought a pack of Grapes from London’s supermarket— made in California. After I ate a few, I felt tasteless and left it in the fridge. A week passed, the grapes are still in. I mean, I thought they gone bad. Three-month passed, the look and colour remained
            intact. You do not need to be an expert in food and a scientist to know that if fruit does not go bad after three days, you would say Ahm ! A week, you should be alerted. There must lots of additives, chemicals, God knows dirt substances dumped into the pack to appear fresh and normal.

            Thanks, but not thanks to “Land of Satan” food.

            Keep your Chlorine infested and washed meat out of EU.

          • Aligaz G

            David,
            The Brits were in all the territories surrounding Eritrea after the defeat of the Italians. So it would have been strange for them to ignore Eritrea. But what is true is that Britain was no longer in any position to newly colonize more countries by this time.

          • Abi

            Dongolo
            Do you stay in one place for more than 6 weeks?
            What are you doing in the Midwest? Let me guess! Witnesses protection program?
            From southern Italy to the Midwest is cruel and unusual punishment. What did you do?

          • Sultan

            Selam Dongolo:
            Wow Dongolo…. surprised that you know all these details.
            We’re u in Asmera during that period of time?
            Thought you were at the underground Orotta Hospital in Sahil doing eye surgeries.
            It sounds like I have mistaken you for/ with someone else.
            Apologies.
            I hear you and we had similar arguments discussions at that time with the zero Catholic Leadership about the corruption of few Clergy managing the millions of $$$ from CRS !
            It was disgusting corruption that I hate to mention here.
            Our Human Nature is yakki yakki.
            But I would rather judge them positively by the 99% good services they provided the needy Eritrea and Eritreans during that critical period of time.

        • Yp

          Oh please. None of that money helps Eritreans but instead goes right into the regime’s coffers. Case in point, Bisha money, Qatar aid, UAE/Saudi military base payments, ADB funds, IFAD fishery grant, EU geothermal grant, etc… None of them have results on the ground.

          • Sultan

            Selam Yo:
            I might agree with you partially and that is why I said that the EU could have strictly monitor the expenditure of the Fund closely.
            The Bish’s and related funds are different stories.
            While am at the forefront in criticizing the PFDJ for all kinds of corruption and misgovernance ,to be fair, common sense can argue against your biased and gross bravado.
            Tell me about the estimated cost of the following :
            1)Taking care of the more than 300k EDF on Active Duty and on Reserve and the purchase of multimillion worth of military hardware and repair of the tanks,jets helicopters and related defense , security and Intelligence logistics

            2)The Development Infrastructure of :

            a) the construction of roads, schools, dams and the renovation of our Ports

            b)The purchase of thousands of trucks, tractors , heavy duty machineries for agriculture and transportation buses

            c) the infrastructure for flourishing Mining Industry

            d) efforts to secure food security

            f) the expense for energy including more than $300 million annually for crude and refined oil.
            This is not to mention that,that poor nation is getting out of the devastating and deadly a decade old total sanction!

      • Sultan

        Selam Dongolo:
        Birhan is,not only not correct but knows the facts you reminded him about.
        U forgot to mention as to how much $$ the TPLF-TIGRAI STATE has been getting from the UNHCR annually in the name of the Eritrean Refugees including extra millions of $$ in the name giving few Eri Refugees some Univ Scholarships.
        Birhan knows well that the Sudan has been getting millions and billions of $$ in the name of the Eritrean Refugees for the last 60 yrs.
        Am not sure that the EPLF and ELF in the past and now the PFDJ Govt was / is angry with the Sudan about that.
        The EU, as I mentioned it repeatedly, has provided the TPLF Ethiopia with hundreds of millions in the name of Eritrean Refugees.

        • Brhan

          Selam Sultan,
          Can’t you learn the etiquette of discussion. Why are you putting words into my mouth?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Brhan,
            This Sultan guy is probably the most confused, incoherent person in this forum. I start to doubt now the Gonder Medical school. I used to think highly of this school.
            Oh, and his flip-flopping statements…

          • Sultan

            Sir:
            You confirmed your disgusting INCOHERENCE and HYPOCRISY as well as your fallacious logic by implicating that the GCMS must be a trash Medical College simply coz a certain “Incoherent” Sultan, who happened to have graduated from that College is “ incoherent and a flip-flopper”!

            By default, some one could have legitimately and objectively labeled your Degree in Engineering a fake one but common sense would not label that College you allegedly graduated from a trashy college.

          • Sultan

            Selam Ustaz Birhan :
            I did not put words into your mouth but said things / facts that you know well but acted as if you don’t know ..

          • Brhan

            Selam Ustaz Sultan.
            I really don know about what you are talking about. The simplest ways for you to say is “sorry” which I can accept as part of etiquette of discussion. Sometimes one can be nervous when he writes and can write without intention, that might happened to you . I do not know about the “things” or “facts” that is in your mind. Is it a crime to say I do not know?

          • Sultan

            Selam Birhan:
            Was responding to your comment about the GoE trying to monopolize the Aid Distribution and stating that only the GoE is the one, who does it and Dongolo tried to correct you with facts but you ignored the facts; hence,I interjected and advised Dongolo that you , in fact ,know the facts but acted as if you don’t know the facts.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            So you absolutely know that Brhan knows the known but pretends to not know the known ?
            ጠርጣሪው በጠረጠረው ጥርጣሬ ተጠርጣሪውን ስላስጠረጠረው ተጠርጣሪው ጠርጣሪውን እንዲጠራጠር አድርጎታል::

            ጠርጣሪው ጥሩ ምስክር እንዲጠራ ክቡር ዳኛ ራሥ አቢ የፍርድ ቤት ጥሪ አስተላልፈው ተጠርጣሪውን ዋስ አስጠርተው አሰናብተዋል::

          • Sultan

            Selam Abnet:
            We cannot talk about “ Absolutism” but about common sense and publicly known issues like the one Birhan is talking about.

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            እኔም ይህንኑ ነው የጠረጠርኩት

  • Abi

    Hello GN
    Two years after the two countries signed the historic peace agreement, there is relative peace and on the ground. Instead of the tanks facing each other, instead of the fighter jets facing each other, there is a daily civilian flight between the two capitals.
    May be Gedab News is looking something on the ground. I prefer to see the skies for any kinds of good signs.

    • Saleh Johar

      Ras Abi,
      The problem is you have many armies in One Ethiopia. But the tanks are there and the armies are still there. If you see peace on the ground, maybe we are looking into different grounds. But I hope your optimism is right.

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Saleh
        Last time I checked the armies on the ground were hugging and kissing not shooting at each other. Instead of the armies penetrating deep into the other’s side with tanks and jets, it is the music troupe that was entertaining the general public. I rather hear a sound of a ከበሮ than a tank or a bomber.
        Let us see the glass half- full.