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Sudanese Destinies of Haile Selassie–the Story of A. Tayfur and his book

Introduction by the translator:This article is a detailed story of a book which, in its time, influenced the Eritrean National Movement in a deep negative way and caused schisms which kept developing, morphing and clustering until today. It details the story and the circumstances that led to the appearance of the book and the reactions which followed its publication. It is the history which until now stood overlooked and neglected by History.

Eritreans are not known for the love of reading books. Nevertheless, the Eritrean National Movement have, ironically, fallen, at a time in its history, victim to two contaminant books and got infected and negatively affected to the core thereby. The two books, published early at the beginnings of the Eritrean Armed Struggle, succeeded in driving a series of wedges between the components of the movement, and perpetuated discord and fragmentation among them. The material and the contents of these two coordinated books were based upon identical false claims aiming at the stirring of sectarian suspicions and affecting confessional feuds. The effects of these evil works are still echoing in the Eritrean collective memory with reverberations working havoc to this day. The first book was a foreign based, external effort, nominally authored by a Sudanese reporter, Ahmed Tayfur, titled “The Truth about the ELF”. The second was an insider job, an effort from within the national movement itself, a manifesto,  said to have been authored by Issayas Afeworki, Titled “Nehnan alamanan”.  The two books, displayed the same aim and spirit in spite of their difference in language and style. It is impossible for one who reads and compares the two books to escape concluding that one is, definitely, a re-arrangement, rephrasing and compression of the other.

This article, which appeared in few Sudanese web sites, was written in the Arabic language by a witness of the times, a Sudanese Journalist and a man of letters, Ustaz Omar Ja’afer Al-Suri (Alim), who observed the drama with open eyes at a close range from a privileged position as the intrigue was unfolding and evolving.

This work appeared for the first time in 2010 but was again published in several Sudanese websites and Arabic speaking Eritrean websites in May of 2016 with a word from the author by way of introduction.

The posting of this article in Awate.com is necessitated by the fact that these days the same feint and malice that poisoned the Eritrean national movement’s environment long time ago, is now, rearing its ugly head and trying again to stir racial, religious and regional divergence for the purpose of derailing the struggle for justice and democracy, and steer it away from its true and honorable objective, into a different delusional struggle, featuring internecine feuds and self annihilation. Perhaps, the usefulness of reading this article is in its suggestion to the new Eritrean readers of asking themselves a question their predecessors and brothers avoided asking long time ago, at the distribution of the two venomous books: who benefits from this ?who is the real beneficiary?

A word from the author:

Eritreans are going to celebrate the silver jubilee of their independence which came after a bitter struggle in which they sacrificed the dear and the precious, unimaginably countless martyrs, the blood which run like rivers, the innocent who were forced to abandon their homes, and the children who saw death by their own eyes calling their parents with no response. In this occasion I remind all, of what happened and remind further of the tight bond and relations which joined the Eritrean struggle to Sudan and its people. (Written in May 2016).   

Sudanese Destinies of Haile Sellassie :

Colonel Tarreke running wild in Khartoum Streets!
The Story of A. Tayfur and his book
A Sudanese Perspective
Written in Arabic by Ja’afer Al-Suri
(Translated by Burhan Ali)

Stand up on your crippled legs if you can reach a summit!
Swing your imbecilic sword if you can hunt a star!
….O’ you, herd of sheep
“Have you seen a disabled palm defile a nation’s history?”

From a poem by “Ali Abdulqayoom”

His star swiftly rose and twinkled for a while before fading away as swiftly as it rose. And as his pen quickly and brightly glowed, it was quickly extinguished, like a meteor rising at the break of dawn, unnoticed –except by nighthawks and late worshipers. The Sudanese journalist Ahmed Teyfur was a victim of the frivolities of spies, the betrayal of fellow co-workers, and the disgrace and weakness of rulers.

Ahmed Teyfur’s life was terminated in 1966, long before his actual death from thirst and hunger, three decades later. He escaped straying and roving the deserts of North Sudan, trying, in a moment of desperation, to leave the country heading for Egypt, where he may have hoped, to melt away in the human waves of Cairo, forget himself and be forgotten in a village or a town of that country. He may also had hopes of taking refuge in a saint’s remote sanctuary where his sins may be forgiven, or in an oasis, which,  in the olden times, might have been a prison for some rebels one day and their retreat at another. But Teyfur’s destiny had to be dying in a cheap shelter- room at a poor neighborhood of Cairo, where some comates extended their magnanimity and kindness in spite of what they endured from him, and shipped his worn out, alcohol-consumed body to rest among his folks, in a soil he was coerced to betray, and where his soul may find peace and absolution.

Ahmed Teyfur’s story sounds as if it were a modern Sudanese replica of an excruciating Greek tragedy which the successive events of its chapters took place in the Sudan of the sixties. Yet, its horrific finale was not witnessed except by a few, when his corpse was found in that miserable room, where the stage curtains fell on a success story, assassinated at genesis.

Ahmed Teyfur’s sun rose in the newspaper (“October 21”), which was being issued by Saleh Mahmoud Ismail, one of the most eminent personalities of the Nationalist Unionist Party, and the Minister of Information in the October era[i]. Teyfur was the first reporter to enter Eritrea accompanied by its rebels, crossing, under the veil of night, the hills forming the border between Eastern Sudan and western Eritrea at the Hafera region, neighboring the town of Kessela. He returned back to write elegant reportages supported by photographs snapped and frozen in testimony of an experienced and scrutinizing eye.

In hindsight, it seems that it is an undeniable fact that the adventurous journey of Ahmed Tayfur to Eritrea was the hammer which singlehandedly brought down the siege of silence which was surrounding the Eritrean struggle, and indeed it was the hand which forced the doors open to the Eritrean rebels, to defeat the Ethiopian Empire’s persevering hard work in painting them as bandits and shifta gangs who prey on peaceful passengers, travelers and commercial convoys.

But, before elaborating on and resuming the story, it may be helpful to step back a little, and have a look at the relations of Sudan with its two neighbors to the East, Ethiopia and Eritrea.

There is no need to go as far back as to the Mahdiyya and the slaying of Emperor Yohannes IV[ii] but a good start may be the arrival of Emperor Haile Sellasie to Sudan, escaping the troops of Mussolini, which at that time had overrun Ethiopia using its colony, Eritrea, as a springboard, on the eve of World War II.

The Emperor was welcomed and accommodated by Al-Sherif Yousif Al-Hindi[iii], in Burri[iv], offering his majesty his utmost magnanimity.  From there, the Emperor went to address and try actuating the League of Nations, which, a working, organization was as good as a dead body at that time, paralyzed and unable to raise as much as a finger in the face of the imminent danger threatening Humanity — a danger the clouds of which were accumulating and hanging everywhere, though its first calamity fell down upon the Horn of Africa before engulfing and drowning Europe. Thus the fascist invasion of Ethiopia proved to be the knockout blow which finished the crippled organization once and for all.

When the War broke out, the lot of the Sudanese troops in defeating Italy’s fascist armies in East Africa was the greatest and the most honorable. The battles of the valleys and highlands of Anseba and Keren–which were immortalized in popular songs–and the martyrs and the wounded of the Sudanese battalions were only testimonials to this fact. And when the British forces accompanied by Sudanese battalions[v] entered the Eritrean capital, Asmara, they were escorting Sudanese teachers, engineers, nurses, musicians, singers, and craftsmen ready to open schools and construct canals, roads, heal wounds, restore life-beats and manifestations. These were followed by businessmen, adventurers and spies which the British and the Emperor recognized their role and graced them for their work behind the lines of Mussolini’s forces. The most famous of these was a man whom the British administration rewarded after the war by appointing him a teacher of the English language in Sudanese secondary schools in spite of the fact that he was not in possession of credentials higher than a primary school certificate. The truth, however, is that he was the most competent among the teachers who taught English literature and successfully drew the students’ attention to the beauty and wonder of that literature. Beside the English language, the man mastered the Italian language and spoke Amharic as if he was a pure Shewan Prince. He deserved the reward not because of his services in the British intelligence apparatus, but because he sat for a ‘skills test’, during which he was interrupting it each half an hour for a cup of lemon juice, and brilliantly excelled at it[vi].

After the war, Haile Sellasie victoriously returned home to his throne. This time he had set an aim of subjugating Eritrea (from where the Fascist invasion had broken out) and expanding his dominions to the warm Red Sea waters, thus, coming into contiguity with neighboring Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, and the Holy Lands in Palestine. And here (In Palestine) the followers of the Orthodox Church have places of worship and monasteries which have long been objects of dispute between two Coptic churches: the Egyptian Church of St. Marcus embracing the ‘Church of Alexandria and the East’, and the Abyssinian Church.

Assuming good intentions, one may say that the British Military Administration, which had a United Nations mandate to run the colony of Eritrea, was unable to help the people of that country and empower them to acquire their rights. But this is on assumptions of goodwill, because the majority of observers believe that the administration, to the contrary, lacked the will to do any help. Earnest Bevin, Britain’s Foreign Secretary and Italy’s Carlo Sforza failed to reach a conclusion on the destiny of the Italian ex-colonies in Africa, Libya, Italian Somaliland, and Eritrea. As a result they brought the matter back, in its entirety, into the hands of the victorious four great powers. These were successful in reaching happy conclusions concerning the destinies of Somalia and Libya. But, concerning Eritrea, they had, each, an axe to grind in binding Eritrea irreversibly with Ethiopia–preferably as an action of actuating the international will. The Emperor of Ethiopia, too, worked hard to take advantage of this opportunity to expand his isolated and closed Empire. He started to offer generous promises and gifts both internally and externally as well as to different parts and ethnic groups of Eritrea. The Unionist Party was created but the Independence Block was also founded in response.

The result of these efforts were brought to fruition when the United Nations General Assembly decided, in December 1950, to bind Eritrea to the of Ethiopia Empire, in the aftermath of the failure of the fact-finding committee sent by the international organization itself: South Africa and Norway advised the division of the country between Sudan and Ethiopia; Pakistan and Burma were for full independence, and Guatemala alone voted for the annexation of this Italian ex-colony to Ethiopia. But the United Nations’ Security Council had yet another solution in store. It issued a resolution, in compliance to which Eritrea was to be bound with the Ethiopian Empire in a federal union, a state of affairs the Soviet Union’s representative at the time equated to a coerced catholic marriage. Most Eritreans accepted the UN resolution reluctantly. The resolution, however, entered its application stage by the end of 1952 at the hands of the UN’s envoy, the Bolivian diplomat Anze Matenzo. That opened the way for the first elected Eritrean Government headed by the chief of the Unionist Party, Tedla Bayru. The United States was also rewarded for its relentless efforts in formulating and promoting the resolution. The Emperor granted it the permission to build the largest American military communications base outside the United States and thus Kagnew Station was set up on the heights of Asmara[vii].

The cesarean section which led to the birth of the federal union brought to the world a disfigured creature; For the UN had tailored a democratic constitution for Eritrea and tied the country, at the same time, with a Theocratic Empire. This, in my opinion, is a thing which never came even with the context of a fictitious legend, and it might never have crossed any man’s mind or heart. Its novelty and uniqueness surpassed even the excessive wonders and travels of Gulliver to all countries! How is it possible for a political unit–one that has active political parties and labor unions; is tolerant to free press and publication; elects the parliament; imposes accountability on governments and ministers; has a written constitution and an independent judiciary system– how could it be possible for such a unit to enter into union with another unit which knows nothing of that at all; one that is, above that and beyond, worshiping beside its other religious rituals, the King of Kings, the Lion of Judah and the descendant of Solomon and Queen Sheba!

This was the beginning of the on-going tragedy which Eritreans have been suffering, and which later spilled to the rest of the region of Northeast Africa. The Emperor transformed the union into a coerced annex, the effect of which was that the whole Empire suffered in wars erupting and kept aflame in all of Ethiopia following the years of mid-sixties of the last century.

The federal union was a bad omen to the Emperor and his Empire: after a few years of its application, the country was shaking, most visibly in Eritrea. In 1958 the Eritrean Liberation Movement was founded expressing the people’s distress at Ethiopian hegemony, and in disapproval of the continuous breach of the UN resolutions’ articles.

To keep step with some of the junior partner’s active political life aspects, the Emperor appointed a consular assembly in Addis Ababa. Groups of the educated started to trail back from the US and Europe finding positions in ministries, government offices and the army. Then, suddenly, the great catastrophe took place in December of 1960 when the brothers Neway–Mengistu and Grmamie–launched a bloody coup at a time when the Emperor was on a state visit to Brazil, after having wandered in the Caribbean Islands where the “Rastafarian” sect exalt him to deification.

Sudan, In those days, had another appointment with the amazing destinies of Haile Sellasie; for the Emperor insisted to return back to his country disregarding the advice of his American and European allies. The Germans, in particular, welcomed him to stay in their country and advised him to avoid going to Addis Ababa and to wait until noon the next day when the scene probably gets clearer. The Emperor chose Sudan for his return route.

Sudan was ruled at that time by General Abboud and his “jolly friends”. There was yet another appointment, this time for Eritrea, with bad luck and mismanagement. For Mengistu Neway communicated with General Tedla Uqbit–the Eritrean Chief of Police, the police being the only active military force of Eritrea then–requiring him to secure the borders as the military committee which he was leading have decided to recognize Eritrea’s independence. But the Eritrean General rejected the offer and preferred to welcome the Emperor in Asmara, on his way from Sudan, and thereby facilitating his return to the throne. A week after the Emperor’s arrival to Asmara the battles between the rebels and his supporters reached their climax with the defeat of the rebels as a conclusion. And so, the attempt to change failed and was crushed, it was one which enjoyed sympathy among some enlightened members of the ruling family. Interestingly, there is a famous photo snapped upon the arrival of the Emperor in Asmara Airport: it depicted the elected chief executive of the Eritrean government – Asfaha Woldemikael who had succeeded Tedla Bayru–throwing himself at the emperor’s feet and kissing his shoes.

Willingly or otherwise, Asfaha Woldemikael remained loyal to Ethiopia even after the independence of Eritrea, in the Nineties of last century.

Tedla Uqbit, however, received “Sinimmar’s reward[viii]”; for in a little more than a year after the above-mentioned events took place, the general assembled his officers in their club. There, he gave his eloquent speech complaining about how things had developed and turned out, and demanded preparation for change. Noon of next day, they killed him and placed a golden pistol in his hand, a pistol given to him by the Emperor, the day his majesty arrived at  Asmara on his way to oppress the Neway Brothers’ coup, as a gift in expression of gratitude and as a reward for his rejection of the Independence offer. Then they circulated the rumor that he committed suicide. He was succeeded at the police leadership by General Zer’e’ Mariam Azzazi.

Meanwhile a personal tragedy hit the Emperor: his most beloved son, Ras Mokonnen, was killed–leaving him alone with his elder son, the crown prince, Ras Asfa wossen who between him and the emperor stood barriers and obstacles. Officially, it was announced that the prince met his death at a road accident. But it was widely rumored that he was, in fact, killed by the legendary marathon hero, Abbebe Beqila, in a fit of anger following his surprising the prince and his wife (beqila’s) in his own bed.

Again, the Emperor found a consolation and relief from his sorrows in Sudan. The Emperor came in a state visit to Sudan, upon the invitation of General Abboud. His program included a visit to the town of Al-Ubayyid. General Abboud escorted his guest on the visit to that town and a colorful festival followed, held in his majesty’s honor. Camel-racing was featured in that festival, and there, among the detail assigned to his security, was a police officer who drew the attention of the Emperor: Lieutenant Karim-u-ddin Mohammed Ahmed of Omdurman, who held an uncanny resemblance to Ras Mokennen as if he was his twin.
The Emperor requested that the officer approach to the festival’s platform. Protocol officials hurried to invite the officer to present himself to the Emperor. They thought that this could be no more than greetings and a handshake, or a commendation for a distinguished performance. But as soon as the officer presented himself to the Emperor, he was required by the Emperor to sit next to him and a space was arranged for him. As soon as he took his place beside the Lion of Judah, and amidst the wonder and the gaping mouths, the royal hand extended to rub the officer’s hair with a clear fatherly affection.

The lieutenant was taken by surprise, facing a situation he wasn’t prepared for, knowing nothing about its nature–for no one had forewarned him of the moment to prepare him consider its awe. The officer was confused and didn’t know what to do-(as he related to me later, when we met in Abu Dhabi, where he had enrolled in its police force) – he didn’t know what was behind it all. The Emperor requested from him to go to Khartoum in his company, and then to Addis Ababa from there. Officer Karim became a frequent visitor of the Ethiopian capital and was admitted to the Emperor’s audience at all times, enjoying a treatment only proper to Ras Mekonnen.

The succession of events at the beginning of the sixties and the break-out of the Eritrean Armed Struggle forced the Emperor to search for an exit which could preserve his dignity and prestige: as he perceived it, he was the unique leader of Africa regardless of the attempts of Nasser and Nkrumah as he thought. He worked hard, searching for ways to regain tenacity and cohesiveness to the old Empire and prevent its disintegration and division. He brought Aklilu Habte Wold to form a government of technocrats; the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was assigned to an active, young, and ambitious intellectual by the name of Ketema Yfru.

The Emperor then set the political and diplomatic relations of Ethiopia at the top of his priorities especially that with Sudan to whom he sent the Eritrean Melles Andom, as ambassador: a personality with qualifications of help to him in blending easily in the Sudanese fiber. He was succeeded by yet another Eritrean, Saleh Hinit, who enjoyed the same qualifications as his predecessor in addition to a few more: he was a Muslim and erudite in Arabic. The first Eritrean chief executive of the government of Eritrea, Tedla Bayru, was sent to Sweden which was building the Ethiopian Marine Forces base; “Commando Marina” in the Eritrean waters at Garar north east of Massawa, as well as equipping it with fleet pieces and gadgetry. The handsome prince, Iskndr Desta, Princess Tenagn Werk’s husband, was assigned to the commandership of the fleet.

In reciprocation, Sudan was sending the best of signals to Ethiopia before and after the Organization of African Unity (OAU) took its capital as its seat. The best and most experienced of ambassadors were sent, of whom Abdullah Al Hassan and Fakhr-e-ddin Mohammed were two of the most remarkable. The latter was a great Plastic Artist and he, uniquely among the diplomats, used to roam the Ethiopian capital’s streets in a motorcycle. Today, Ambassador Muhyiddin Ahmed Salem, a judicious diplomat, a man who would feel concern had a day passed-by without being of help to someone, is representing Sudan in that capital and was there, as a charge d’affaires, the day the army of Melles Zenawi entered Addis Ababa defeating Mengistu’s troops. In Addis Ababa and Abu Dhabi, his hands were conspicuous in helping the victorious Ethiopians and Eritreans.

But the succession of events in Sudan and Ethiopia imposed new circumstances which traditional diplomatic communications and personal relations were inadequate in addressing them. In Sudan, the Generals’ regime collapsed –a regime which handed over to Ethiopia seven of Eritrea’s best and pioneering rebels, to be hanged from the branches of the Nabk[ix] trees in the market place at Barentu, a town famous for its edible Nabk disks. Barentu was also known for being a hub of transportation for busses coming from Asmara or Tessenei. Many of the busses carried Sudanese from Kessela on their way to the capital Asmara for tourism or commerce, or Eritreans living and working in Sudan. The October uprising which overthrew the Generals’ regime gave the Eritrean revolution a space to breath and get help through.

In 1963, the Eritrean Liberation Front approached the new Syrian regime which came to power through the 8th of March 1963 movement[x]. The prime minister of Syria, Salah al Bitar, was the man, who in association with Michael Aflaq[xi] co-founded the Baath party.

In spite of their novelty in power, the Baathists were apprehensive of the growth of the Israeli presence in Ethiopia especially on the Red Sea shores and its islands. The Israeli intelligence’s establishment of an advanced post to manage its operations in the east and the center of the African continent came only to confirm their suspicions. Nevertheless the Syrians had, as well, certain limitations and apprehensions when dealing with those who claimed armed struggle and revolution. They didn’t know the persons who approached them at the time, they may, probably, be swindlers and con artists trading on Peoples’ cause and make a living off it, a reason all too obvious for them to endorse a plan for putting them to a test. Before pursuing discussions detailing what Syria could offer by way of assistance, Salah Al-Bitar, the prime minister, and the Baath Party leadership issued an order in compliance to which the Syrian Army requested the Eritrean envoy headed by Osman Saleh Sebbe to send twenty of their Eritrean fighters to be trained on guerilla warfare by the Syrian Commando and Special Forces. The Eritrean fighters were brought and took their six months training. In the process, they impressed their trainers and secured their admiration to which the Syrians responded by the decision to offer the Eritreans all the assistance that Syria could afford. The means for delivery of this assistance was now available since the most formidable barrier, the rule of the General’s in Khartoum, has collapsed at the Set-up of the October Government[xii] in 1964.

The E.L.F’s chief, Idris Mohammad Adem, and the director of the of Revolutionary Affairs, Idris Osman Glaidos[xiii], approached Mr. M. Al Awad Jubara, a prominent figure of the Unionist Democratic Party, and a minister of the premiership affairs. The two Eritrean leaders had close relations with this Sudanese official, relations going back to their early youth years, for they were attending the same school in Gadarif[xiv] . They also communicated with Mohammed Saleh Omar, the Muslim Brotherhood’s representative and a member of the cabinet of ministers. The two Eritrean leaders knew him as well, and they were aware of his sympathies to the Eritrean cause. The Eritrean leaders requested these two officials to facilitate receiving Syrian aircrafts carrying ammunitions and weapons for their revolution, weapons which were awfully and direly needed.

Owing to their sympathies, the two ministers accepted to do what they were required to do, on one condition: the matter should stay confidential, and that no other member of the cabinet, aside from them, should know about it.  Jubara was to arrange for it with the civil aviation authority because of his department’s association with the authority, additionally, he had friends and followers in that department. The Syrian civilian aircrafts began arriving at Khartoum Airport late in the nights to unload before the break of dawn. The weapons were stored in the Burri area temporarily, before their swift transportation to Eritrea. But the matter has, in time, reached the ears of some Sudanese political officials who started asking themselves about the nature of these Syrian aircrafts at a time when there were neither regular flights nor close relations between Sudan and Syria as it is the case today. Al-Sadig Al-Mahdi[xv] disclosed what was hidden when he accused the ”People’s Democratic Party” of importing weapons for the purpose of aborting the elections which were scheduled to be held in 1965 and which Sheikh Ali Abdurrahman[xvi] had previously threatened to boycott and prevent. The real question[xvii], however, is if Almahdi knew who the real owners of these weapons were, and it is also unknown if he was not using this for a local political struggle sacrificing, for his purposes, a young revolution along the way.

However, the greatest part of the weapons cache, have already reached its destination and the fighters who, previously, were trained in Syria were the same people who looked over its arrival. Sudanese security forces confiscated only a small quantity, but they placed Osman Saleh Sebbe and others under arrest.

This operation, which had resulted in the confiscation of military hardware and the imprisonment of some Eritrean figures, casted an intense light on their cause, anew, depriving the Emperor and the Ethiopian Government a single moment of sleep. More than anything else, the emperor was most eager to muzzle all mouths speaking on what goes on in his country, but now it was not only the world that heard about what was going on in Eritrea, but the news had also reached the Ethiopians’ ears from foreign radio programs directed to Ethiopia in the different Ethiopian languages. This was stimulating to other Ethiopian nationalities as was seen as forming a incitement recommending Eritrea’s example to follow.

The Syrian weapons had their impact on the expansion of the Revolution away from the Sudanese border into the Eritrean hinterland. The information explosion caused by the media on the confiscation of some of the weapons had, as well, a magical influence on mobilizing the youth to join the Revolution.

It was at this point that the Revolution’s Leadership started to give the media and the role of information in the battle, the attention it deserves. That, also, was the reason why the leadership went in search for reporters and journalists who may tell the story to the world and expose the picture of what goes on in the field, both in word and images. They talked with a number of journalists, some famous and others who were not. In the end, no one accepted– except for one young reporter just starting his career in a recently-established newspaper.

Ahmed Teyfur’s journey to Eritrea was prepared in top secrecy, in apprehension of not only the familiar, but also, of all the unknown intelligence agencies. All such agencies were working in Khartoum — including the Mossad, which had established its station in the “Bon Marche”, a supermarket frequented by the high society.

The journey was a challenging, arduous and difficult one, atop camels, avoiding travel by day or moonlit nights.

When the journey came to an end, Ahmed came out to publish a series of reports, which had the effect of bombshells. The circulation of the newspaper, “OCTOBER 21”, went through the roof. The reportages, themselves, were considered a victory for the profession of journalism in Sudan; one could say it was a conquest: for it was the first time that the media went out there, searching for news outside the border. Up until that time, journalism was always sitting in its offices, waiting for the news to come to its doorsteps while it enjoys the comfort of the chair. On the rare occasions when it moves forward to get news by itself, it wouldn’t go anywhere beyond the government and party offices, politicians’ houses, trade-unions seats, and even when any of this happens it would be no more than a couple of miles distance at most!.

Ahmed Teyfur’s reportage covering eight columns, and sometimes overflowing, were the talking-point of people not only in the Capital but in the rest of the Sudanese cities. Ahmed Tayfur became, overnight, a shining star, a model of courage and heroism.

Ethiopia followed the developments in Sudan closely and decided to dispatch to Sudan one of its best intelligence officers as a military attaché. Colonel Tarreke, in short order, was not only in a position to enter the houses of many politicians and others, but he was as well entering the residence of the Prime minister, Mohammed Ahmed Mahjoub[xviii], with no prior permission needed. He didn’t waste much time: he recruited prostitutes to his network, opened prostitution houses and established a club intended, via its liberally low-priced food and drinks to attract the “Effendis” who take public affairs as their practice for livelihood. Some of these were active supporters of the Eritrean Revolution, while others belonged to the different tribes of the Arab political left and the different Arab Socialist schools. Tarreke was always present in all the places. On a Thursday night, at the heart of the club, euphoria took itself up the head of one of the “Arab-left” activists, and led him, while pointing to a portrait of the Emperor on the wall, to loudly shout, in English, “Down with the Dictator Haile Sellasie”–. Turning right, his wide smile of victory faded off his face as he saw Tarreke smiling at him and asking: “Do you really believe that?” The invisible man, as he was known among his friends, replied: “I was only saying it!” Then he and his friends left.

The Eritreans and Badr-e-ddin Muddathir advised these people to avoid the Ethiopian club and its Zigni and get satisfied with hot Tilapia.

To frustrate the growing media attention the Eritreans were enjoying, especially after Teyfur’s reports, Tarreke started searching for a way of striking them a knock-out punch– one that would rally the Sudanese public opinion against them and motivate the Sudanese authorities to chase away Eritreans the way it was done in the “golden” days of General Abboud. He settled upon an idea: publish a book by the first reporter who entered the lions’ den and then returned! However, this plan proved to be impossible and so had to change such that a book would be written and then labeled to the name of Ahmed Teyfur. But first, the reporter had to be tamed.

The taming operation was executed at the hands of a few fellow practitioners. Using as pretext the celebration of his recent marriage to a co-worker–an editor of the Women’s page in the same newspaper and who ended up divorcing him upon the explosion of the scandal–they invited him to parties. They took him to the Al-Waha Hotel, recently inaugurated and frequented by the high classes of Khartoum who would spend their nights around its swimming pool, its halls or its night club “Caffe d’Roi.” In this atmosphere, he was introduced to Tarreke who left no chance for his victim to evade from between his hands. In the beginning, Ahmed told the Eritrean leadership who knew about these parties that he had attacked the Ethiopian attaché ferociously when they met, and let him hear the Sudanese people’s view on what they are doing in Eritrea.

At this point, the Eritreans advised him to avoid this man. But the blow was already dealt when drugs were put in his cup and disgracing photos of him were shot.

The book “The Reality of the ELF” was already at the start of its printing in the Al-Zaman printing press (the paper was published by its chief editor, the journalist Abdul Aziz Hassan). Mr. Hassan was the first link between Tarreke and Ahmed Teyfur. Offended by what was being planned for the Eritrean leaders, some of the employees in the printing press informed the Eritrean leaders about the conspiracy, and came to them with few copies of the pre-printed models.

It is my belief that the book was not written by Ahmed Teyfur: he did not author the book, though it was written with slyness surpassing that of the fox, on the basis of what he had already written in “October 21”. The book claimed, among other things, that Eritreans were seeking to isolate Kessela from Sudan to seize and claim it as part of Eritrea.

The Eritreans decided to move quickly to abort the book even before its publication and distribution. Carrying drafts of the book with them, their delegates visited all the political parties, labor unions, spiritual and community leaders, and all the newspapers except the “Al-Zaman”.  For long, ‘October 21’ was appearing in all its numbers with a fixed square expressing its objection. Political parties and labor unions also declared their objection even before the book was distributed.

During their visits to the Sudanese newspapers, the Eritreans held a meeting once with the poet and journalist Hussein Osman Mansur, chief editor and owner of the newspaper “Al Sabah”. He took the draft and started turning its pages. He read the introduction “Forced by relations of blood and family, I went far with the ELF…”, then turned to other chapters before falling into deep silence for few minutes and then say: “the introduction and the lines of words here and there in the book can only have been written in Sudan by either one of two individuals: myself and Abdallah Al Hassan.” Then a moment passed before he declared “I didn’t write it”.

Abdallah Al Hassan was known among his friends for his opportunistic nature as far as being nicknamed the “fake director” in reference to his crooked ways.

Ahmed Teyfur was Tarreke’s first victim. He slew him horribly and made him bleed for decades, and when he died his soul must have left his body once with each and every breath for all these years. The other victim of Tarreke among the Journalists of the time was the renowned Sayyid Ahmed Khalifa[xix].

Like many others Sayyid Ahmed supported the Eritrean revolution and the right of the Somali people to unite its five regions (including Ogaden, occupied by Ethiopia), represented in the five edged star at the center of the Somali flag.

Sayyed Ahmed wrote for the Al-Sahafa newspaper and worked under its owner and editor-in-chief, Abdurrahman Mukhtar.  During the campaign for aborting the book, Sayyed Ahmed was active in confronting its contents and refuting it. This made him the next target in Tarreke’s hit list.

Tarreke used his excellent relations with Abdurrahman Mukhtar (the owner) and, depending on that, and the influence of Prime Minister Muhammed Ahmed Mahjoub, he asked his friend to get rid of this contentious journalist. The boss complied.

Sayyed Ahmed wrote two books after that, Eritrea, the Algeria of the African Sahel and the other book was about Somalia. Later, to the chagrin of Tarreke, I and Sayyed worked together for the Khartoum News Agency.

The political and journalistic mediums were now fed up with the Ethiopian military attaché and his orgies. They were as well disappointed with the Sudanese government’s surrender to Ethiopia’s growing pressure for opening a consulate in Kessela. The Sudanese government could not resist longer; after all, Sudan already had an open consulate in Asmara.

Yet, the Ethiopian consul in this border town couldn’t have enjoyed his stay, for in Kessela there was a dense Eritrean presence and the revolution had open activities on top of the support it enjoyed from the citizens and dwellers of the town especially after its economy started to take off binding itself to the Eritrean presence and becoming a principal supply and reinforcement hub for the fighters across the border.

The means of entertainment and indulgence in the town of Kessela of that time were limited, there was only one Movie House, a place where Eritreans would go to whenever the Ethiopian counsel was about to go in. Ticket sellers were cooperating with them and were providing them with seats in the same wing as the Ethiopian consul and his guards, sometimes even nearer to him. He would withdraw as soon as the lights go off. This was repeated several times, and at last, the diplomat was not leaving his house. This was not possible in Khartoum, and Colonel Tarreke was as active as ever. However, the Eritreans sent him a clear message telling him in it, that their long hand will reach him if he touches any one of their leadership or fighters who were coming for treatment or on their way to other welcoming country for training. As a result, he limited his activities to information collection and attempts to lobby the politicians and influence the government in the hope that they may curb and limit the Eritreans’ activities as far as possible.

Meanwhile, a new challenge for Ethiopia was represented in the appearance of an Ethiopian opposition. The pioneers of this movement started to appear in Sudan, when a number of them arrived in Gallabat and Gadarif and then Khartoum. But the arrival of the prominent opposition leader, Kebbede Tesemma, to the Sudanese Capital was the one which sent shocks to the Ethiopian government’s spine and that is why it instructed its military attaché to concentrate on besieging this new, growing danger.

Kebbede Tesemma, showed notable activities among Ethiopians belonging to diverse nationalities of his country. He established relations with the Sudanese political powers, labor unions and foreign embassies.

Tarreke’s mission was to compromise Kebbede’s group and murder him with a few of his assistants. This objective was quickly achieved, and their corpses were found pitched in the desert between Burri and the airport. This crime was a bloody multi-addressed message: The Ethiopian opposition was the primary addressee. To the Sudanese government and its security apparatus, it was a statement that Tarreke could do whatever he wants to do, that the time for serious business have come, and that he would use the iron fist. To the Eritrean Revolution, it was a message, relating by example, what exactly is awaiting their leadership. The Eritrean response came swiftly and decisively, they left him messages in his car and in his house in different times, some of these messages were attached to bullets or hand grenades. They told him through their messages that they are capable of reaching him at any time or place and that the only thing preventing them from initiation is their interest in the peace and safety of the host country. He subsided.

The murdering of Kebbede Tesemma murder caused a fury in the Sudanese political circles and discontent among the conservative political forces, as well as in the elite including the national and leftist movements and centers. Voices demanding to stop the military attaché on his tracks and of bringing the murderers to justice were raised. Some even went as far as to demand breaking off diplomatic relations with Ethiopia, the closure of the borders and the advance of political and military assistance to the Ethiopian opposition. The intense reactions to the crime reached its climax at a hot and loud session of the parliament, when the government was in a situation that no government in the past has ever experienced, passive and incapable of responding. And when it thought, finally, of defending itself, the Deputy Minister of Foreign affairs, Ibrahim Al Mufti, called to the first press conference the Sudanese TV ever covered and broadcasted. All the media attended this conference at the leadership level and saw it much more important than leaving it to their editors. The Deputy Minister read a short declaration in which he indicated that the government is taking certain steps to guard the security of the country. Then questions and arguments of the media chiefs started to rain on the deputy, who, in fact, was only a good-natured man who avoided getting himself into collusions as far as possible. But, fate has now put him, in the absence of the Minister in charge, in a hardly enviable situation! Sudanese TV transmitted it all to the public in homes, coffee shops and clubs.

The reaction to the crime which the Ethiopian opposition personalities were victims of, and before it, the reaction to the book attributed to Ahmed Teyfur, the confessions and trial of the spy Al Rifae’i, who was recruited by Tarreke, and his conviction and condemnation, in the Grand Court which was headed by the judge Abdulaziz sheddu, to two years of jail, All these limited the boisterous festivities of Tarreke and his henchmen a little until the 25th May coup d’état[xx].

At this moment a stanza or two from the poems of “Al-Bayyati[xxi]” which came, I believe, in his divan (anthology) “Broken Pottery”, rush into memory:

And I wonder!
How the traitors betray?
Can one betray his country?
And when he betrays his essence and meaning

How is he to live and become?

Footnotes by the translator

[i] The October era is the political era between the fall of the government of General Abboud in October 1964 and the elections which took place a year later. In the October era, a government of coolition of all northern parties and labor unions was formed immediate to the fall of the regime of the generals.
[ii] . The author is here referring to the battle of Metemma where the Soldiers of the Mahdiyya (known as Darawish) overrun the Emperor’s camp and recognized the king among the wounded; they severe his head and brought it back to Omdurman. This was year 1889.
[iii] 3. A notable political and religious Sudanese character of the time.
[iv] An outskirt, of the capital, Khartoum.
[v] . There is here a great deal of exaggeration and irrationality. However, the translator thinks that the author should be excused since one can think of him as one controlled by exceedingly nationalist feelings. How else can we accept that the Sudanese battalions accompanying the British instead of vice versa.  Another claim of him can be as well refuted by the fact that since the conquest of the British, Eritrea has lost material and establishments more than it gained by the conquest. Eritrea for them was war booty and it was treated as such, facts and figures are dispersed in documents. Well known published books. That makes the bragging here out of place.
[vi] The author didn’t mention the name of this interesting man.
[vii]  it is worthy observing that Essayas Afeworki tried to lure the United states into establishing a military facility anywhere in Eritrea, but he failed in his attempts.
[viii] Sinimmar was a legendary engineer who built a palace for his king. The Palace was a wonder of the world and the king, fearing that Sinimmar may design another similar or better palace for another king, resolved his fears by amputating Sinimmar’s both hands and as such the saying “Sinimmar’s reward”.
[ix] Nabek is the tree normally known as GABA in Eritrea.
[x] The coup which brought the Baath party to power in Syria.
[xi] Michael Aflaq, A Syrian philosopher and Sociologist, an Orthodox Christian, was the founder of the pan-arab ‘Baath Socialist Party’ he died in 1998 in Paris, France
[xii] The October Government is the government which followed the collapse of General Abboud’s junta in October 1964.
[xiii] . These are two of the historic leaders of the ELF and both are co-founders ot it. Idris Mohammed Adem was also a onetime president of the Eritrean Parliament before the annexation in 1962.
[xiv] A town in Eastern Sudan.
[xv] An important Sudanese politician of the Ummah party, he is the grand-son of the Mahdi who fought Yohannes and the British. As of his history with Eritrea, he is the only one who kept his stand throughout his political life consistently at appearing aligned at all times with oppressors of the Eritrean people, Ethiopia, Mengistu and I.Afeworki all of them.
[xvi] . Another Sudanese politician of the Democratic People’s Party, he is also a spiritual figure for the followers of the Khatmiah Sufi Sect notably in Eastern Sudan.
[xvii] It is difficult to assume that Al-Sadig didn’t know who the weapons belonged to. Any observer of this politician’s history would tell you also of his Machiavellian consistent pattern, throughout. The truth is, most probably, that he knew who the owners were and that he calculated that exposing is killing two birds with a single stone. Internally, he would appear over all the politicians by affecting a political explosion just before elections, and externally he will have advanced to the Ethiopia and its Emperor a payment for a future day.
[xviii] . A prime minister for a number of   times. He belonged to the Ummah Party of Sadig Al Mahdi.
[xix] an all and old time friend of the Eritrean revolution
[xx] . The coup which brought Nimeiri to power.
[xxi] A celebrated Iraqi poet.

Source: https://www.sudaress.com/hurriyat/61383

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  • Selamat,

    It figures! Nope, you from afar ain’t gonna use the blame it on weyane Chicanary!!! Cover.

    Proof of The Marriage Allegory! Izi ShrHi GirHi Qedemm iyu teKheshifu.

    60^4 _ 12,960,000

    SeraQuit!! That’s right! SeraQuit!
    HaQui ayEigett ayyHaQuiQe!!!

    tSAtSE

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi All,
    I had to attend something with exclusive attention and I am sorry to have left amidst a hot discussion last week. It was a one time issue so hopefully I will stick around onwards.
    In the interest of time,I just placed “hayat” on the search box of this entire thread to look up on what has been said in relation to my name. So, my reactive note might sound inadequate and partial. Also, I will not know if someone said something referring to me as queen or gual adem or the dedebit girl:) What have I missed?. I think a lot. I didn’t know I was being toasted in absentia for no crime.
    I was okay with Mahmuday’s lashes. I am used to them. They always come in style post spring seasons. I should blame it on the groundhog2.0 that declares the ending of spring. But I never got annoyed knowing he would regain the best of himself soon and all will be well. Besides, I know he loves me. I love you too, Mahmuday.
    I was a bit uncomfortable with Emma joining the league. For some reason, I wanted Emma to remain Emma.. sort of straight jacketed. We need a person like that who strictly minds the facts, principles and all the serious stuff. It is a bit cringing when your wise and no nonesense guy starts cheerleading on non-issue stuff. And I am more than willing to engage him to the very last until he ends up reaching the closed wall – then he would unfailingly say: “why are you taking us back to ghedli?”. It always amazes me when Emma starts an argument himself taking a certain direction, as in citing historical issues and comes back to always blame the other person on dragging the discourse to the past. But since we also need such a reminder before we got inundated in history, i never minded backing off at my own expense while I could push back. I should admit: i have a soft heart for Emma. I think that will remain the case for a foreseeable future.
    Thanks Luel Ras for always being there to cover my chest with yours whenever you feel an arrow is flying in my direction. I want you to share this medal of highest honor with our Paulos, another person with needed guts and manliness. If paul was a woman, I would have said, “womanliness”, so there was no bias or gender favorability intended here. How could there be?!
    Look how the Great Ismail tried to give me a graceful end. I love you man. I don’t care if we are to agree and disagree million times on million things, my respect to you is always to be expected and I shall never fail on that.
    I think what I have learned in this and my other thought based discussions is that much of the disagreements and let downs are not about the differences of the views. It is about the way we argue, make our case and advance them. For example, as far as the issue of glorifying ghedli, the difference I have with the honorable SGJ is widely yawning. But I never felt discomfort if I see him defending it tooth and nail. I will simply think that he meant it and people defend what they beleive in.
    And the issue has never been about counting ghedli as part of an Eritrean history. Of course, it is. Whose else then! But if I were to be asked to chronicle the best and shining times of Eritrea, ghedli would not be one. If I were to be asked to come with the best positive histories of Eritrea, ghedli would not be one. But I cannot NOT see it as an important history of Eritrea. IT is my history as much as anyone else’s. No one should be offended and it is not meant to offend anyone. It simply is a difference of perispectives. That is why we cherish websiteS like this one as it helps us air our views and let them known and discussed.
    I don’t mind joining the fray. I have an elephant skin. I have Kokhobay’s optimism and Fanti’s patience. I am not fragile nor rigid. If I knew I made a mistake, I will immediately retract. This is because admitting a mistake is much easier and much cheaper than people think. Fallability is always part of us and knowing that helps one become becareful. And if any carefulness is not saving from all mistakes, just acknowledge the mistake made as soon as that became evident. Doing otherwise is tiresome and futile and can only help one lose confidence and trustworthiness in the eye of others.
    Now, I will answer questions that were frquently asked of me to address following my comment related to WelWel.
    So, the quote: Did I read it somewhere or heard it from someone? I heard it. Did I beleive the likelihood that WelWel could have said so? Yes. Do you want me to tell you the name of the person from who I heard the quote? For me, it would have made no difference but that is not really exclusively up to me to do that. Yes, I have heard it from a knowlegeable person that WelWel said it. That person I am referring to is very responsible in saying things of such nature. So, I beleived the quote as authenticate. You don’t have to.
    What Ismail asked is very reasonable doubting if WelWel could have said that knowing the role of the lowlanders in advancing the Eritrean resistance and Ghedli. I may have asked the same thing the first time I heard it. But there was a context given as to why WelWel was compelled to such utterance and I will try to share that context in relation WelWel and some stories I’ve collected about WelWel. But I wanted to discuss WelWel under the new article by Dawit Mesfin since it seems more logical to do so.
    Turn to the other thread…

    • Peace!

      Selam Gual Adem,

      Hayata, just curious why would you waste your time, skill, and knowledge to do someone else’s dirty job? It has been more than a few years and things are not changing even a bit. I mean who is responsible here the management or the shareholders?

      Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi peace,
        I enjoy chatting with you here at awate. Why would i consider that as wasting my time? Are you not worth of my time?

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Sister Hatyata ! Wow ! My queen!

          Where have you been? are you there ? Dr. of Ethiopia has been chosen to be head of who UN officer.. as you can see and read we in awate..what is your stand?

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Your Queen doesn’t stand. She sits on a throne. You stand behind her, I stand besides her.
            እንከባበር!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            What if it is the opposite ? let her say it ..

            Hayata are you there? reply to us if you stand with Abi — let me know…

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            you have not paid full attention to her comment. Read it again with special emphasis on ” Leul Ras” part. Unfortunately you have been hiding when the guys were busy shooting at her from their nursing homes and assisted living facilities .

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            እንከባበር! just typing Amharic ..ha!! “You stand behind her, I stand beside her.”

            WHO IS THE KING ?

            .

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Who needs a king when we are blessed with the most beautiful, amazing, smart …..Queen ?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi

            “እንከባበር ” let us respect each other ..

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Kokhobay,
            I didn’t know what the kiboor Luel Ras did or said about the Dr.
            But I will say this: It is an amazing victory, a pride of Africa and his country. The only time I would have favored another person over him is if there were a better person from Ere or Ethiopia running against him for the same job.
            A message to the Dr.: you made us all proud by outcompeting powerful candidates. A good campaign and the full support of Africa got you here. But also know that nothing replaces actual work and delivery of results. Make us proud again by achieving real results and transforming global health for the better. Good luck!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hatyata ,Wow !

            Good reply..respected …very nice great..mutual..very balanced.
            we all wish him Good luck! sure we are proud of this Dr. as we have hope on transferring who functional body of UN international ..

          • Hayat Adem

            KS,
            Which candidate got Eritrea’s vote?

          • saay7

            Hayat

            My understanding is that the entire African Union including Eritrea voted for Dr Tedros. The total votes for him were an impressive 130.

            The last memorable thing I saw about Dr Tedros was during the televised political debates of the 2015 elections. The topic was foreign policy (debate # 9) and one of the oppo leaders asked the then foreign minister “what qualifies you to be foreign minister when you are an MD by training and profession?” I like to think that inspired the good doc to campaign for WHO Sec Gen.

            Nitric, really? REALLY?

            Happy May 24!

            saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hayat

            Hayat , from those arrested? You — Saay7? Dr.Ftsum? I really don’t know…

        • Peace!

          Hi Hayata,

          ሕጂ በሊዕክኒ ድራር ዓይነይ

          Not at all. It is just I always think your potential is too good and too big for such unappealing matter.

          Peace!

    • Abi

      Hi The Queen
      I refuse to turn to not important thread before I say
      ዘራፍ እኔ የንግሥት አሽከር!!!!
      BTW, there is a person by the name Tsehay who doesn’t hesitate to kick some behind while defending the All Time Queen.

      • Peace!

        Abish,

        Tsehay is too ghetto and too disrespectful, definately not her type.

        Peace!

        • Abi

          Hi Peace
          You know sometimes a bouncer with a tattoo on his biceps is needed to guard a very valuable person.
          However, I did not observe a ghetto attitude from Tsahay. He knows his history well enough nobody can get away with a rehearsed bedtime stories when debating with him.
          Too bad.

      • Sahay Erican

        Dear Abi,

        I like your great sense of humor. Do you want the Queen to get the equivalent of beheading? She already has enough problems here:-). She is tip-toeing along the edge, and mentioning Tsehay would let her off the cliff that she would never recover:-). She is doing great. I admire people who quesion and challenge group-thinking.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Hayat,
      Very glad to have you back. I am coming in not to slide back to the previous discussion which, my sincere and innocent facts hungry curiosity had triggered, but to tell you that I respect and enjoy your presence when you disagree with me rather agree with me.
      Not because I enjoy provoking people but because I read in you what I aspired in life to see in our women in particular and the rest of the wold in general: briljant, all roundly liberated and enviously combative for her point of view lady.
      Hayat God bless you and keep up being good source of emulation to your sisters.
      Thank you for your generous words.

    • MS

      Selam Hayat
      You have received a warm welcome from the all-time-gracious Kokhebay and IsmailAA…I add mine too. TKormyeni ileki it’s sincere. What makes me really annoyed is what Peace has mentioned about you. You are just too good to play with parochial and primordial issues such as finding a reason to widen social faults, etc. I already commented on your take about the picture of Asfaha, it was contextual. I think Awate would not hesitate to publish a Muslims picture kissing the king’s shoe if they find a context for it. It has nothing to do with humiliation; it was a royal protocol. Regarding ghedli, I always said ghedli is not a sacrosanct subject, but we should look at it within objective and balanced approaches. Things need to be seen within their context. It’s a history of a people. It’s not a joke, and we will demand clarifications if there is an attempt to misinform and mislead in that regard. On personal level, there are things we can just brush off such as your claim that Eritrean tegadelti bombed an airline in Kerachi when we know there was no airline bombed. However, when you come up with an ugly quotation and you attribute it to Welwel, knoiwing this well exposed public figure, we must question more. All we demanded was a source. I captured a cynical pattern in your take. That is why I went on with my “Here is the Queen, the acutely selective queen” declaration. The pattern: you tried to make a point that Awate selected Asfaha kissing the king to humiliate the Christians. And hen, to counterbalance that, you came up with a quotation alleging it was made by Welwel, in which he is quoted disparaging lowlanders…And I ask myself: why would Hayat go that low? I would not want to see you in the ranks of folks who try to create cracks in our peace loving societies (both Eritrean and Ethiopian). Come’n Hayat, don’t lose it for temporary political mileage.
      You could have simply answered that you heard it from some ” knowledgeable” person. That would be a good caveat. But you know well that “knowledgeable person” is not good a source in order for you to pick a fight on getting it through. Because WelWel is known for his integrity. You may question his political stances but he was a man of integrity. Please, grace us with care and plausible explanations if and when you come back to comment on that particular quotation. I’m all ears.
      Welcome back,

  • Dear Saay7 and Team,

    DiQui DuiQuii tSElmatt DifreTT TeAATeQue Zekirr aLhbirr SiuATT.

    Hihi grmm…

    Initials dou mulue shimm kzerzerr?

    TeQuerabonett rgutSE iyu… Wo PilaTious beHaili Amlakh nay semayayy aboyy iyuu it I Hailikha.

    Ewann mrbirabb…Handesa Fenjji GitSAtSE.

  • Aron

    Hi guys,
    Dr adhanom won and he is the first WHO director. Congratulations to him, his family and Ethiopia on his historic election. I am Proud of his achievement.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam GitSAtSE wedi Hawey.
    Pardon me for seeing your with interest added response for my question on Mengisteab. Thank you for the google tip. And, by way of clarification I did not refer to Nhnan Illamanan as a book. What I wanted to know from your encyclopedic memory whether my information from oral source that the document was sent to USA for translation which was in fact was done.
    But here is the point that shaked my curiosity: Because consultation had been underway to launch dialogue between Hizbawi Hailtat and ELF, and the late Wel Wel and Osman Sabbe were aware (not sure whether directly engaged or not) those who involved in translating the pamphlet were adviced to deffer its publication or publicization. But others like Dr. Andebirhan did not heed the advice and released the document. At that time, according my oral source, Wel Wel and Osman Sabbe were in Italy, and that Wel Wel had expressed disappointment over the release of the document at that time.
    Kibret yhabley wedi Hawey.

    • መርሓባ ኩቡር ኣያይ ኢስማዒል ዓዓ፡
      ኣወልን Ramadan Kereem.

      I am indeed pierced and humbled with your response. I honestly expected a desreved retribution from you as I did border the line of disrespect or ዘያኽብሮት for an elder. Please accept my sincere apology. But my provocations netted me the precise response I was banking on. Yes, I did pay close attention to MaHmud SaliH’s ques with his graceful emphasis, with consistency, your guaranteed of the highest qualities leadership worth with each and every one of your comments.

      I appreciate your detailed response in clarifying my confusion. I can only share bits and pieces, skipping names a few names here and there while mentioning others for real reasons. I will tell you for now, that your asesment is on target as my response will confirm.

      Allow me to break here as you and many are observing the first ፋጡር and Selah.

      I have just listened attentively to Mesfun Hagos’ radio interview. Roughly an hour long. His tone and content I found my thoughts sinking the waves of Yous Aya and Mesfun’s voice wave signals nearly identical. And I intend to ask you a few questions I have compiled consistent with Wel Wel and Osman SaliH Sabe, Andebrehan and Mengisteab.
      I will open with the tonal sounds harmonics analytics, as I intend to be combative with Paul and iSEM. Hyatt A I am sure will pickup valuable pointers. For example, I can confidently state with high degree of accuracy, in the Eritrea’s Sewra, you Rank of Command with ELF’s Serawit Harrinet was as high as Mesfun Hagos’. Hence, the visualization Error of envissioning you leading Sabe’s Triumphant Victorious March into Asmara in ’77 after You have cleared the road’s hazards much like Mesfun H’s 1991, get real to Issu quip. Yeah, Paul, Get Real! Hoping one/some day to see Ayya IsmaEil Leading Eritrea? Where have you been the last 44 Years! ዘበነ ማይ ግርምቢጥ ማይ ልዓቕብ ድዩ ወይስ ነዴኻ ማይ ውረደላ።

      Ato Berhe Y በጃኻ ስከ ምሳይላት ብዓቕን ምውርዋር ካብ ኣስተምህሮታት መምህር ሳልሕ ቃዲ ን መምህር ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ ክም ዝቕሰምኩ ተገንዘበለይ።

      ብሩኽ ምሸት።

      ጻጸ
      ሰመያዊት ደሴ ሪኣኹ ሎም ምዕልት።

      • Ismail AA

        Kubur GitSAtSE wedi Hawey,
        Thank you the Ramadan greeting. Kulu sana wa-inta Tiyib.
        Glad you could make sense of my hasty points. I know you could excuse me for incoherences that quick flash back to memory could cause. Anyway, I am confident wedi Hawey has wealth of information in store and could simply fetch the medicine for some scratches my randomness cause and recuperate them.
        By the way you have one of the tigrigna initials in my name incorrect. The second is A and not the one you had tyoed.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Awate..

    Now it is clear that during that era there were people among who were against freedom who try to cover their crime some
    of their children were modified in that way or are shame of their elders stand and are trying to cover it. Again some men were against our national question during our national struggle days and had been warned by ELF or EPLF and sometime even penalized (some time to death) and still leaving in revenge.

    It is the same, we are witnessing some coward individuals supporting pfdj because they thought that will cover their historical mistakes. all this will not change the truth. Awate is our hero, and we will continue till his goals (free and democratic Eritrea) are accomplished.

    Federation with some countries..will no affect our free nation as far as people to people discussion will take its place at honest course ….

    • Abi

      Hi Kokobe
      How is Awate a hero when it comes to freedom??????? Wasn’t he an Askari himself??? How about if you find a different hero ? Someone who rejected Italian colonization rather than accepted it and served happily? How do you manage to write freedom and Awate in the same sentence?
      Abraha Deboch, Moges Asgedom, Abdissa Aga,Abune Petros, …

      • Kokhob Selam

        Hi Abi ..

        All horn was different at different ..Like Belay Zelek..of Gojam around Baher Dar..Zery Deres etc..let history do it course …

        awate my hero will remain hero to the end of my life as far Eritrea..all the time we cannot mention our national independent..without putting our national …. founder ELF mother of our political movement including what you are witnessing.

        • Abi

          Kokobe
          Since I love you so much I don’t want to give you hard time by responding to your comment.
          However, the way you associated Elf to what we are witnessing today is just clever.
          One down vote for you!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abi,

            Deep inside, you mind you vote up thousand times ..

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Please accept the up vote. ፀሎትህን ሰምተናል🤥

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Your frustrations should be directed toward your fake heroes who sold Djibouti and Assab for nothing መሸሸት ብቻ:) Look where are you know…on the streets of Geneva protesting against Dr Tedros because simply he is from Tigray.

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear peace..

            We must be proud of the guy to lead who…

          • Peace!

            Ahlen Habibna,

            We should, of course! I was just trying to point how much embarrassing it has been seeing some Ethiopians protesting against him in favor of a white man.

            Peace!

          • Hi Peace,
            Are your lies your alternative truth? Where did you see me mention his name or say anything against this person? He has never crossed my mind. Unless you say that “hoizonians” are people from mars, i think that you mean my person. I really do not care, whether he wins or loses. All of them go for their personal interest, and not to do the job. It is one of the most corrupt organizations.
            If you have read, you would have known that the travel cost alone of WHO personnel (about 7000) is more than $200m, more than the money allocated to fight the three diseases, AIDS, TB and malaria together. They travel first class and they stay in five star hotels. On the contrary, for e.g. the organization Doctors without Borders (37,000 of them) spend just a little over $40m. Let him go and enjoy it. He is not my problem in any way whatsoever.
            Do not speak indirectly with insinuations.

          • Kokhob Selam

            HI Horizon.

            you must know the difference me and others. You are one of the best thinkers,balanced guy and you should remain the same .

            Kokhob is not that narrow minded as you are open minded too..You and me have already taken stand in every problem that had gone -disappeared…

          • Dear Khokob Selam,
            Our poet narrow minded? No way. You are the best habesha of them all. We are all proud of our K.S. Remember, you do not belong to eritrea only. You are also the son of ethiopia, of whom we are proud.

          • Peace!

            Hi Horizon,

            Actually I thought you would have a problem because I think his mom is from Yemen, an Arab blood right there:) And you are right I was referring to “Horizonians” from mars obviously can’t just be you; nonetheless, it was just embarrassing to seeing a ዘር driven protest against an African Dr, regardless how WHO is less efficient.

            Peace!

          • Mez

            Dear Kokhob,

            As a son born in Asmara, he may narrow down the gap between Asmara & Addis Ababa; who knows.

            Let him first Winn the job; we wish him good luck.

            Thanks

      • Peace!

        Abish,

        ፎቶ ኣይወጣልኝም እንጅ ቆንጅዮ ነኝ…and the hallucination continues:) seriously though: በእውነተኛ ትግል እንጂ በቅዥት እና በምኞት ጀግንነት ኣይመጣም.

        *** sorry የኣፄ ልጆች, despite relentless protests, Dr. Tedros Adhanom is set to win and soon he will become the first African to lead the WHO.

        Peace!

        • Abi

          Hi Peace
          ምነው ሆዱን እንደረገጡት ያስቀባጥርሃል?

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Not at all. ማስመስልና መሆን የተለያየ ነው መባል ምን ያስቆጣል የኔ ወንድም እረ ተው:)

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            “ማስመሰልና መሆን የተለያየ ነው” ሐቂ ሐቂ ሐቂ
            ለምሳሌ ነፃነት እያሉ በባርነት መኖር :: ጉድ እኮ ነው!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            One at a time. የemperors ግዛት/ባርነት ኣጠፍን; የእሰያስን ደሞ መጥፋቱ ኣይቀርም. The resiliency is strong enough to overcome betrayals and evils.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            Please count me on your fight against betrayals and evils. I know a thing or two about them.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Actually we tried and concluded that people with a habit of shooting themselves in a foot are not good candidates. However, I can count you for “resisting with karaoke” position if you are interested, let me know buddy:)

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            You just removed majority of Eritreans from the candidacy.
            Everyone knows they shot themselves on the foot.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Lol …I rather let them respond to that although obviously it is a wild misconception. ሞትኩ

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            እንደገና?

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            I am still wiping tears away from laughter.

            Peace!

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            Shooting them selves! Well ask the Ethiopian mothers of derg soldiers. Infact many people like you have horrible dream about the reality of Eritreans shooting. Your god knows well ,that traveling to north was not easy for your fathers.we need a full picture of dergi time writers to reflect on the horror face , how was the situation in Addis when weyane set a foot in Bole air port? I can share the video clips by CBS and BBC journalists asking people like you.

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            Please share the video link. It has been 26 years since weyane arrived in Addis.
            I did not remember weyane flying to bole airport. No Sir. They came shooting from different areas around the capital. They are not the Olympics team as you think they are coming through the airport.
            Please share the link

  • Sahay Erican

    Dear Berhe,

    Could you please provide your references for the following statements?

    1. Business was booming between 1942 and 1952 (and 1952-1957)

    2. The presence of the British prevented them (Qeshi Dimetros and Asfaha Weldemichael) until 1957 from dissolving the federal arrangement.

    You have a big problem of throwing words and statements randomly without hard-copies. For the references, you are allowed to use bedtime stories or if you are the sole witness. Please note that words of mouth are only denied to the Queen (Hayat) :-).

    Thanks in advance.

    • Berhe Y

      Selam Sahay,

      You can read Tekeste Negash book. Or if you want more evidence close to your heart, qeshi Dimepetros build two or three large churchs in Asmara:).

      Berhe

      • Sahay Erican

        Dear Berhe,

        Qeshi Dimetros building two or three large churches for the people who live in Asmara so that they can have a place of worship? Any idea how many people were employed to build the churches, too? It is amazing. He left something good to be remembered.

        You know what else the legend did? He built a school in his own riding. He helped build one of the biggest dams in Eritrea in the western part of Seraye that solved the water shortage of many villages. The dam lasted 30 years before it was filled with soil.

        Could you kindly provide the page/pages in Tekeste Negash’s book regarding the “business booming between 1942 and 1957” and “British presence preventing” the collapse of the federal arrangement were mentioned. It will save me a tone of time going through the whole book.

        Thank you in advance.

        • Berhe Y

          Selam Sahay,

          That’s exactly my point. There is nothing wrong in building bridge and place of worship. His role should be limited in that capacity and not a politician and king maker (as in putting Asfaha as chief executive and super head the dismantling of the federation). Why do you purposely ignore his role in this capacity. People like him are so divisive they are blinded by the small petty politics and he forgot his role was to unite the country along those divided land (lowlands and high lands) along both religion (Islam and Christianity) and along the two official languages (Christian and Arabic).

          Let me put it to you in a blant way. Eritrea highlands without the lowlands are the sea is just a dry mountainous destitute place. All Eritrea has to offer, fertile land, mines, strategic sea access is all found in the land of Muslims and lowlands.

          If Eritrea was made up of the highlands, I doubt the Ethiopians would care much, it’s just another Tigray or Wolo. As mengisu famously said when TPLF liberated Tigray (without offending my Tigrayan friends), there is nothing we need from Tigray. They don’t have anything except wofch beit. In other words it has no significance.

          People like qeshi dimetros, you or IA are the greatest risk to the well being of the ERITREAN people from Kebessa. You can’t think more than your nose and you put your people to the greatest risk. The country is plenty to accommodate everyone and share its wealth equally.

          At the same time, the king made the greatest mistake by listining to the advice of qeshi and others small minded people and went along with their wish. By doing so he undo all the work his capable diplomats did to bring Eritrea to Ethiopia and in the process they ended up becoming a land locked country.

          Fikreslassie the Derg second man, in his interview said, the one thing he regretted the most is losing Ethiopia access to the sea and they are partly responsible for it.

          P.s. I will looked up Tekeste Negash and will let you know provided I have time to do so.

          Berhe

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Berhe,

            Some people think before they write or speak. You seem to do the opposite.

            The leader of the Rabita Islamya Party, Ibrahim Sultan, was a ሸኽ…the equivalent of a priest. Do you think his role should have been limited to his religious duty and not get involved in politics too?

            You are very unique.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Sahay,

            You are communicating and that’s a progress. Let’s drop the condescending comments and that will go along way.

            To get back to your point, off course there is nothing wrong to be a priest or a Shiek and be a politician. My point was if all his interests were to benefit his constituents, then he doesn’t deserve to speak and decide on behalf of the others he doesn’t represent.

            Shiek Ibrahim Sultan did not break his part of the deal.

            Now let’s forget the past and let’s learn something from it. Let’s accept where we are today.

            Temeliska TiredO gedifikayo aytieto

            What do you think the best way forward to the benefit and well being of our own people (those Christians from Kebesa) who are going through so much anguish and misery today. What type of future do envision for them.

            Berhe

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Berhe,

            What I have read in your comments above is an allround Eritrean’s attitude who has wonderful grasp of his country and the ultimate interest of its citizens. Actually, you have summed up what some of the alerted (rather lately) individuals among the Ethiopian elites who voice out their frustration in private, and the gist of Ambassador Zewde Retta’s book about the way events were handled pertaining Eritrea and Ethiopia.

            In my view, individual Eritreans who try to play nostalgic to roles played Qeshi Demetros and the likes, and attempt to demonize the liberation era experience of the Eritrean people, do end up as die-hard fans of Eritrea’s current despot and his regime as a way of self-consolation.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ahlen Ismailo,

            First I am from those who understood for years that “Sheikh” as religious title like a priest in Christianity. Thank you for making us aware about it.

            Second, Berhe is indefatigable in defending the cause of our struggle and the patriotism of Eritreans. We are blessed to have him. Besides, he is a well read and respectful citizen.

            Regards

        • G. Gebru

          Sahay Erican,
          Selamat.
          The dam you mentioned was actually enginered and built by a certain Dejach Feshasion who hails from that area.
          But, the Isayas group has a grudge with the people of Seraie Awraja because they were pro ELF during the gedli era ቂም አይወፀሉን ጌና አቶ ኢሳያስ While they are building other dams, if they are to be called dams, from a scratch they didn’t bother to clear the mad and bring this ready made dam into service so the local population can benefit from it.
          The same with the road that they ignored which goes from Mendefera the capital of the awraja through Areza, Maidema to Shambuko and Barentu.
          Thanks.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear G. Gebru,

            Thank you for sharing. IA has qim with the Eritrean people a whole. And those who think he favors, they do not know his well calculated ploy.

            Speaking of the dam, last year I saw an interview of an Engineer who worked in the president office who defected to Ethiopia. He was talking about the dam the president suppose to be building and their capacity from the real benefits to the people. His conclusion, based on his expertise, they are just a propaganda tools to

            1) to the International community who are funding these projects, to show they are doing something with the inflated expenses they present (at probably world rate) which is probably a fraction on what Eritrea spends (because of the free labor) and divert the funds to their coffers. If they show they cost for these labors is 20 dollars a day / a very reasonable by any standard that a lot of money if they have 10,000 employed there.

            2) The actual capacity of the dam, when presented as this many million cubic meter may sound a lot but when one looks at it closely they are nothing of the sort one should brag about it.

            Which leads me to my next point. If you ask me, the majority people who hail from Seraye, if I am not mistaken (because I am one) they tend to support the regime (including my close relatives and family members). They think Isayas stands for the unity of the people…I always ask them what exactly has he done for the people of Seraye in the last 25 years…no body can answer confidently….

            So in other words there is a lot of gap in terms of information…and the question is what is that the people need to do to challenge him and actually get the people of Seraye by the example you provide to line up against him.

            I will try to elaborate a little more, but I think we need to do is, move our struggle from the defensive mode (telling and re-telling all the hardship caused by him) to an offensive mode ( to align people to oppose him in meaningful way, based on their interests).

            For example, it would be noble if you know or someone who can, organize fund raising event to send money to restore the dam that was ignored for a long time so the people can benefit. This serves two purpose:

            1) The people will get to benefit, and if the support comes, specially if organized by the people in opposition etc..the people will get to appreciate and change their opinions.

            2) It’s non political issue so the PFDJ will be hard pressed to come publicly to oppose such initiatives and they will try to block it, black mail it, and eventually use it to expose them.

            so in small steps we can get to organize the people in their real day to day needs and get to the core of their interests and shift the support base….brick by brick..

            Berhe

          • Mez

            Dear Berhe,

            Good idea; money-crowdsourcing “with clear target” may do the job.

            Soon then after we can do the next one…

            Thanks

          • G. Gebru

            Dear Berhe Y.
            Selamat,
            From exprience what we know about the regime is that, even if people collect money by fund raising he will not allow the people to excute it by themselves, but will ask them to hand over the money to him so that he will do the job by him self.
            Secondly, the propaganda of hate the revolution propagated during the struggle years and even today, agumented by some of the misdeeds of the Ethiopian military plus the outcome of the Badem war has infested their viens like a HIV virus that weakens the bodys immunity capablity that leaves the body unfanctional.

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear G. Gebru,

            Thank you for the additional information. Our forefathers’ incredible history have been trashed while the history of bandits and ruthless criminals have been sanitized and idolized to saint hoods.

            The story as it is told by the farmers goes like this: the water shortage faced by the seven villages in the county of ሸውዓተ-ኣፈልባ during the dry season was so bad that people had to travel miles or leave their villages to get water for themselves and their animals.

            To make the long story short, one day the villagers were advised to apply to the Eritrean government for loan so that they could have a dam built for them and pay the money back with small interest. They applied for the loan as advised. However, the application was denied as the party of Rabita Islamya overwhelmingly voted no with a few number of highlanders joining them. The people who denied lending money the farmers said that the poor farmers would not be able to pay the loan back. The loan asked was 50000-60000 Ethiopian Bir

            That was how the legend got involved to help the farmers that he dearly cared about. He went all the way to meet King Hailesilassie and complain. The king approved the loan on the spot. The dam was built and the farmers’ water shortage and misery solved for 30 years.

            The rest is history, and the legendary ቀሺ Dimetros is still remembered not just for the good things he did to the people he represented with proud and dignity, but also for the vision he set on to accomplish for an everlasting piece and prosperity for his people. That vision has still to be achieved by the children of the people that he fought like no one else. May his soul rest in peace.

          • G. Gebru

            Dear Sahay,
            Selamat,
            First allow me to disagree with you on the Arabita Al Islamia involvement. It was built during the federation years and the man who initiated and built it was, if I am not mistaken, the minister of publics works at that time. He was a decision maker himself.
            Secondly, regarding abona Nubreid Demetros as any other humanbeing he has his merits and and demerits. One of his merits is you know he stood tall and firm to organize and reform the Orthodoxs Tewahdo Haymanot Church and he did all that he can do but this was not platable to the other chritcian factions of Eritrea.
            On his stand on the unity of Eritrea with Ethiopia was firm and solid a stand like the stand of our fathers on the other isle, those who stood for what they believed was beneficial to Eritrea. So it was a political stand no more no less.
            Yes he was a tough man. I wish Eritrea could have one of his statcher at this crucial period of our existance. He was a man who saw a lot of ups and downs in his life and survived. He is some one to emulate.
            ከምዚ ሎሚ ኤርትራ አበ ኢድ በአንድራስ ሁለት ምላስ ከይወደቀት።
            Thanks.

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear G.Gebru,

            Thank you for revealing to me another great man of the renaissance period. To disagree on an issue or in a political discourse is not a bad thing…it is human. However, I am not sure your statement that the minister of public works could have done whatever he wanted without going through the proper channel of the Eritrean Parliament, particularly with that amount of money that the farmers had requested for the dam project. I agree that it was during the federation era, and when I said the Eritrean government, I was referring to that era too. The Rabita Islamya Party had about half of the elected body of the parliament and letting the public works minister spend government money without approval would be unimaginable. The truth is that the application was debated, and because of the overwhelming objection of the Ranita Islamya Party, lending the money to the farmers was rejected. And as I said before, the legendary ቀሺ Demetros had to do something a miracle in prder to help his people, and that was to appeal to the king.

            Let me be honest with you and tell you the bitter truth. The last time that highland Eritrea had men that stood up and fought tooth and nail for its interests was in the 1940s and 1950s. What it has now and during the era of the barbaric gedli are worthless men (መቁዋጽርቲ) who are willing to sell themselves to the lowest bidder. It is a tragedy.

            It was very nice communicating with you. Let us stand up to defend the great history of our forefathers from the onslaught and defamation of the fanatical extremists, the phony gwdli romantics and the tragic useful idiots.

  • Haile Zeru

    Greetings,

    Unless I am provoked, this is hopefully my last post on the matter.
    These, demented ardent cult worshipers of HS do not have anything good to say about what HS did in his lifetime, according to his direct decisions. Basically he did nothing good. All they (this brainwashed) cultists say is enlist the bad things that happened after his death.
    As stupid as it sounds I have to remind them that a man is judged by what he did in his lifetime. Not after he died.
    This is true here on earth or later…..

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Berhe,

    You have surpassed Tes in transforming one’s thought process in a short space of time. I am glad to have come today to read your lines. How I always wish that these two sets of people see their respective countries in a transactional way; instead of racial, ethnic, power, etc…. We failed in transforming our respective countries into modern societies rather we are stuck with an empty pride.

  • blink

    Dear all
    Down there in this forum debaters of remnants of Asfaha weldemichael (Tigrai man) and some Hailesilasie lovers are peeling every cover of their skin to make our revolution as Arab thing. I have a question for these Asfaha sons , why do you start armed opposition to Emporer of death? Second question to haile sons is , why are you even talking about it?

    • Mez

      Greetings Blink,

      You are so funny.

      Thanks

  • Selam Haile Zeru,

    I think that it is not a bad idea to see from a different perspective as well. Two situations. The first was when I saw a british man saluting the emperor with flexion of the knee I had seen up to that time only in the case of a british woman saluting the queen, or a british citizen being made a knight . The second was when I saw ethiopian women receiving at a european airport (i think), a religious father by kissing his knee as he was standing, ululating and beating the drum. I was embarrassed as I watched the video that showed ethiopian women bowing and kissing his knee.
    In both cases, it was tradition and etiquette that played the role more than anything else. I do not think that the king demanded his feet to be kissed, or the individual felt forced to do so. The same applies to the second case too. It is our feudal and backward tradition at fault, which unfortunately lingers on even today, and not the individuals.

    • Haile Zeru

      What tradition Horizon ?

      Some 2000 years ago a “guy” with the name of Jesus walked
      upon the earth. One day he took a towel and water and he washed and kissed the
      feet of his 12 disciples. One of the disciples objected. But later he agreed to be
      washed and kissed by his teacher. This act sometimes is enacted by Catholic priests in Easter time.

      Haile Selassie is so stupid he has to go back 3000 years and copy King Solomon to secure his empire.
      Is this the 3000 years curse of Ethiopia? Progress comes in 3000 years steps.
      Christ did not come yet for demented Ethiopians like Kim Hanna.

  • Abi

    Hi Haile
    I don’t know what to make out of this comment?
    However, if you congratulate Mengistu it should be based on his effort in protecting Eritrea from Eritreans.
    Bravo Menge!!! Eritreans missing you everyday. What a change of fortune for them with you not at Arat Killo.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Abi,
      .
      Is this the guy who authored an article here at Awate some time ago, the essence of which was, European Union was donating millions of Aid money to Eritrea in order to exploit the country’s mineral and oil wealth in the future.
      .
      If it is, I am not surprised by his comment. He has a demented view on things. It seems, out of the blue, to flare up on occasion, something like a ZAR possessions and convulsion.
      If it is not the same guy, unfortunately it means we now have another one of those.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Abi

        Hi Kim
        I think you are referring to Yohannes Zerai. This one is Haile Zaru. As you said it he sound like suffering from some kind of Zar.
        Could you believe that he is happy how the King died and buried? Does he have any idea how many of his young people are dying in dungeons and deserts and the high seas? At least the king was 84(?).
        I don’t know much about this character. But, if you dig a little deeper into his biography, definitely he is one of the many Eritreans kebesas who kissed the king’s feet when graduating from AAU.
        What about member of the Royal family wrote back to congratulate IA for the untold suffering Eritreans going through today?
        BTW, IA was hand picked by the King to destroy elf because he himself was from the highest class at that time.

        • Selam Abi,
          I am not sure if this is fact, but I have read somewhere that most of the members of the central committee of eplf (may be elf too), were the sons of feudal lords and dejazmaches. Their main reason for gedli was power and that was the reason they did not and do not care much for the ordinary eritrean.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            It is affluenza in addition to hate that propelled Eritrean struggle for self extinction.
            Look around some of the elf members still want to send the poor kids to the war front while keeping their children with them . That is how much they care about the ordinary Eritreans. They are power hungry.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon

            You see Horizon, when you do not have “Real politics” to debate, like what Hayat did last week, you resort in to flying news and rumors that has no bases. Now you charged our revolution were lead (the central committee of ELF and EPLF ) by the sons of feudal lords. First it is completely false. Second does it matter if they lead our causes. Third leaders who fights against their interest are real leaders. Forth, as in all revolution, all struggle are started by petty buorgeois (elites). The Eritrean revolution is not different from that. It was started by the elites of that era. You just do not have any clue about the natures of revolutions and by what class of a society are run and lead.

          • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            Look at these two sentences:
            ….you charged our revolution were lead (the central committee of ELF and EPLF ) by the sons of feudal lords. First it is completely false……

            ….all struggle are started by petty buorgeois (elites). The Eritrean revolution is not different from that. It was started by the elites of that era.

            The second refutes the first.

            These elites of that era were feudal or petty bourgeois, however one calls them, and not ordinary eritreans. At least IA (whom we all know) was not an ordinary person.

            You really get irritated when you read something that is not in line with your opinion. It cannot be a taboo to have a different viewpoint, or speak about elf, as it is not a taboo to speak about things on the ethiopian side. We cannot have the same opinion all the time, on all things, which is likable to both of us. You have your own way of looking at thing, others may have a different opinion. It is only natural. Simply declaring that something is false does not make it false.
            Please, do not be emotional, simply because you do not like somebody else’s viewpoint. No need for that really.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            Try to remember the concept of ” doublethink” whenever you read someone contradicts himself in one breath.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            The first quotation is yours in from your first comment. The second quotation is mine to disprove your first statment. So of course they are opposite statement.

            Second petty buorgeois are not feudal. They are of different class. Hence you need to read the different social developments and the classes within each social development. Hint = the five social developments. Then you will find your errors. Please make a conscious argument.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            .
            It is amusing to see you like this, trying to hide behind some theory about 5 social developments you memorized in the past.
            .
            Focus on the first sentence, did Horizon actually say that …”FIRST IT IS completely FALSE”. I thought that was you saying it, and it is said in broad daylight.
            I said it is amusing because of the style different people use to extricate themselves out the hole they dug.
            .
            When Mr. ssay is caught with hand in the “cookie jar”(cheap points) he explains and justifies it with such a flair, at the end you are forced to give him the benefit of a doubt.
            When you get caught, hand in the cookie jar with chocolates and all, you widen your eyes and say you didn’t do it.
            Horizon points to your hand and face with chocolate dripping, you say it is not chocolate.
            .
            Mr. K.H
            .
            P.S
            I had a pertinent question in which most likely you have the answer, however, I must wait for an appropriate time and place to ask it. I didn’t want it to get mixed up in this.

          • Abi

            Hi Ato Amanuel
            Nobody died or displaced because of ጥራዝ ነጠቅ Abi. None!!!
            Thousands died and displaced because of ከሀዲው Amanuel Hidnrat.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            You said “At least IA (whom we all know) was not an ordinary person.”.

            What do you mean he wasn’t ordinary person ?

            When you look at his father he was a public servant, and his mother daughter of a women who owned suwa/tej bet.

            He attended regular school, Geza Kenisha (primary / middle school) and high school Luel Mekonnen (like most others) a public school.

            I heard his uncle was governor of Wollo and another captain with airforce.

            His parents house is in a place called geza Kenisha and it’s one of Suberbs in Asmara but nothing of ordinary (mostly people of Kenisha (Protestant ) people lived.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            Haven’t you heard people saying that his ancestors hail from the royal families of Tigray? Forget the economic conditions of his parents. His narcissistic and bossy behavior may be attributed​ to this.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            We heard his related to Aste Yohannes, and his ancestors hail from Tigray.

            I have no doubt someone have thought him the politics of power.

            If you mean IA had no interest in the ERITREAN people quest for independence but rather rode along to get to power then I think I agree with you.

            Berhe

        • blink

          Dear Abi
          Cab you say something about the Emporer of death burial ceremony in your place.In low lands my fathers celebrated it with joy. The same we did to Meles .

          • Abi

            Hi Blink
            I’m not surprised at all by your jubilation. You love dancing in circles. You got nowhere.
            There were dancing parties a day after the Mediterranean incident that claimed 350 Eritreans. It happened in Boston and somewhere in Saudi Arabia. What else is new?
            Keep dancing to your extinction.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            I thought I wrote about your beloved haile ,unless I feel horrible about the lampodusa day. Now tell me about Ete gebenen feeling and if you are fair ‘ u can say more

    • Peace!

      Abish,

      የመንጌ ልጆች (a bunch of የማዶሻ ራስ) are in Geneva protesting against Dr Tedros Adhanom for WHO….see Abish how things are always backward!

      Peace!

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Forum, if the disagreement on the GERD between Ethiopia and Egypt escalates, and considering the Sudanese regime’s support to the project, how do you think a possible worsening of the situation couuld impact relations between the Isayas regime, which opposes the project, and the Sudanese regime? Considering the Sudan is almost the only lifeline of the regime, I believe Isayas yet again is committing a grave mistake by standing on the wrong side. DIA made it clear yesterday that he is ready to get into military alliances and even offer military bases to foreign actors in the Eritrean soil.

    • Mez

      Dear Abraham,
      there can be NO war between Ethiopia and Egypt under the current global and local country specific conditions; unless either the third world war or accidental nuclear war starts somewhere.

      Why: 1) The nile Basin framework (the Entebbe) agreement is the key foundation for the nile basin handling of matters; status: Egypt still is discussing to join; north and south Sudan are most likely in the process to sign it; the rest signed it and some approved it as their legal document.

      2) Egypt has a lot of 1) quite damaging economic (one of the few in its history) 2) ideological (including infighting) challenges within itself.

      Due to the 2nd point above alone, if egypt go to war, most likely the president will lose his power to someone else; and the outcome of the conflict with ethio-sudanese coalition will be at best uncertain.

      conclusion: Egypt will NOT go to war with neither of these countries.

      The president of Eritrea is most likely motivating (and feeding empty vitality) his audience (his subjects, and the exiled ethiopian opposition figures around him).

      Thanks

    • Selam Abraham H.,

      This is what dia says whenever he is in a delirium. This dam will serve not only ethiopia’s economy, but eritrea’s too. Be sure about it. This is the only way eritrea will get cheap electricity to move her factories and light eritrean homes. Dia is simply saying, I am here, do not forget me.
      I do not think that egypt will heed dia’s call, because it will be throwing away good money egypt does not have at the present. Moreover, egyptian officials should be fools to start a war they cannot win that will destroy the country’s ailing economy completely.
      Yes, it can bomb the dam and do some damage and delay its completion, but there is nothing else egypt can do to control the nile short of occupying ethiopia, which is out of the question. Then, Ethiopia will not be bound anymore by any agreement with anybody, and she can build smaller dams on the tributaries of the nile, any number of them, and may even divert the course of some tributaries.
      In addition, world opinion, except that of arab nations, will be on ethiopia’s side.
      Egypt can have a guaranteed water supply from the nile as the result of an agreement that will benefit both countries. The days when egypt was the master of the nile, and was getting the lion’s share through self-serving agreements that did not take into consideration ethiopia’s rights, are gone forever. I am sure she is aware of this.

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Horizon, thank you and Mez for addressing my question; I see you guys have a good reading of the current geopolitics of our region which is moving at fast pace. Yes, it is also my belief that the Ethiopian GERD dam and other power plants not only would benefit Ethiopia itself, but the whole of our region as well. It could even be very easy to deliver clean power to the middle east via a subsea cable which is at a mere distance of 30km accross the Bab-el-mandeb strait. It also appears that Egypt would not directly engage in military confrontation with Ethiopia, because that kind of confrontation. as you said, would only worsen the situation besides being unwinnable. Instead, Egypt may try to undermine the Ethiopian gov by extending assistance to the Isayas regime, which is more than willing to play the dirty game, and the Ethiopian opposition groups in some kind of proxy war.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Abraham H.
          The Egyptians are pretty much deft in diplomacy and bargaining. I do not think they will risk playing Isayas card as proxy against the Ethiopians. They know too well the capacity and size of Eritrea’s despot who has squandered the resources the Eritrean people. They release that his army has diminished in morale and numbers due to defection and future less corvee labour.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Abraham H.,
          .
          Egypt and Co. do not wish to see a strong Ethiopia. Weak and a non-unified Ethiopia they can handle is in their national interest. They salivate at the prospect of a disintegrated Ethiopia. Egypt, at least,has a demonstrable interest, the Nile and its tributaries. A strong populous Ethiopia might demand to use a portion of the water for itself.
          Some have written that future wars will have water as their justifiable justification.
          .
          Now, as you have seen from some people here at Awate Forum, whenever Ethiopia faces a challenge or trouble, they all come out of their woodworks to fan the smoke or add fuel to the fire. They all swear friendships and co-existence.
          They seem to go away or pretend to be friends with good will when times are good or better.
          .
          So, for example, UAE has a long term military base leased in Eritrea. It is prudent for Ethiopia, in essence, to assume that it is an Egyptian base and prepare accordingly.
          When you live in our neck of the woods, iron bar on the windows and doors is a must.
          We have to read that Arabic, I think it is Arabic, story of a camel and the tent story over and over again.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Abraham H.

            Dear K.H, I agree with your opinion regarding the Egyyptian policy towards Ethiopia; but the Egyptians need to understand that times have changed, and that Ethiopia has seriously begun to harness its vast water resources. The only way forward for Egypt is by mature engagement with Ethiopia and the rest of the Nile basin nations for the best and fair use of the Nile waters. At the same time, Ethiopia need to show an understanding towards Egypt’s sole dependence on the Nile waters for its survival, and Ethiopia’s projects need to take this under consideration. Naturally, it is also in Ethiopia’s interest that conflicts are not stirred up because of irresponsible and unscrupulous use of the water.
            Regarding your observation of some forum members; I’m of the opinion that they are mainly the pro-pfdj forumers who wish to see a failed Ethiopia, not those who “swear frienship and co-existence”. However, some times, I see a kind of at tit-for-tat reactions from some Eritrean forumers when some Ethiopians try to discredit the just Eritrean’s struggle for self-determination based on the facts on the ground in Eritrea today, a situation, which, obviously, is imposed on the Eritrean people and not their choice.

  • Abraham H.

    Greetings Forum, as you might have followed it, in his interview yesterday, DIA continues to belittle the gigantic Ethiopian renaissance dam as a useless white elephant project in the African continent. Imagine, this is a man and a regime which could not even deliver basic public services such as electricity and drinking water to its citizens; it even couldn’t generate a mere 120MW of electricity. Yet, the delusional dictator Isayas has the audacity to declare a 6500MW power plant which is nearing completion as a “fantasy project”. I wonder in what type of fantasy world this mad dog of our region is residing. He also contiinues to seek to dramatize the issue of the millenium dam so that it could serve him as being the pawn of the Egyptians in our region, what a disgraceful and shameful creature!

    • Abi

      Hi Abraham
      In Amharic we say
      ” ቢያምርም ጠላሁት” አለች ኩርፋዲት
      ( ኩርፋዲት= አስቀያሚ)

    • G. Gebru

      Dear Abrahm,
      ሀመማስ ንዘይቀትል የቕሕር ኢዩ ናይ አቶ ኢሳያስ ነገር። ሰብአይ ዘይብላ ዓዲ ረኺቡ ተፈከረ ንለዋሃትን ንጸማማትን ሐቂ ይመስሎም ይኸውን።
      ብትግርኛ ሐደ ተረት አሎ “ትዕቢት ንውድቀት ትቕድማ” ይብሃል። ሐቂ ዘረባ አብታ ትዕቢትን ፈኸራንካ ደቂማሕበሩ ቡዙሐት ኢና።
      ምስ ቡዙሕ ይቅርታ።

  • Mez

    Greetings everyone,

    While I red “….facilitate receiving Syrian aircrafts carrying ammunitions and weapons for their revolution…..”, it reminded me another happening around the same time. That was the lending of the CCCP to the Republic of Somalia, in the amount of $300million. This was used to buy weapons and get military training; inherently against Ethiopia.

    Looking from this perspective, the load of ammunition to Eritrean freedom fighters via Khartoum may be part and parcel of the USSR covert activity.

    I doubt that those things were not connected to each other; we may have to dig more into data driven history; wikileak type of thing would have been awesome.

    Thanks

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Mez,

      The point you have raised might be relevant for its pure academic value. During the heyday of post WWII Cold War politics linkages were one of the patterns the superpowers exercised in their dealings against one another. But so far there has not been any evidence that in the case of supporting the ELF the Syrian Government had acted as surrogate of the Soviets or CCCP. Whether or not the latter knew about the matter is of course another issue. The weapons were Soviet made and comprised of, by and large, AK47 automatic rifles (Kalashnikovs). It was, thus, possible that importer would inform the exporter side whenever the weapons go to a third party.

      Therefore, the Syrian Government had national and regional considerations that had influenced its relation with the ELF. The alliance of the Emperor Haile Selassie government with the USA and Israel was a source of concern. Anyway, given that the confidential correspondences of the time have already been de-classified, interested research could perhaps visit records or archives of the concerned countries and add to our knowledge

      • Mez

        Good day Ismail,

        yes my primary interest is from an academic perspective; thereby trying to contribute towards policy making and addressing of contemporary regional dynamics issues. I hope with the phrase “….pure academic…” you are not belittling the role education and research plays for a society.

        Now to your points: knowing that one of the two syrian officials met the ELF delegate was a General of the army,– and USSR was there several years before this meeting deeply involved in the Syrian military–strongly suggests that there may be a passover point of the cold-war giving the Bare access (into the local Eritrean discordance) to steer the conflict into its global interest; of course I have no hard fact here to show, except implied one.

        You mentioned “Therefore, the Syrian Government had national and regional considerations that had influenced its relation with the ELF.”
        As far as i can read and understand, except primarily 1) for ideological (pan arabism, baath ideology based fraternity, and the likes) or 2) to serve the purpose of the USSR– the then Syria can hardly have any national consideration (be it economic, commerce, social, military and the likes). Why? You can infer this from the size of the Syrian economy and what they did in this regard for the last 50+ years in our region, after-the-fact–they can show NOTHING.

        Your remarks did not sway away my assumption (inference from the above article) that the Eritrean revolution in those early embryonic phase of its formation may had actually been hijacked and condemned to be a regional proxy surrogate. I further argue that, the genuine revolution of the people with the sole purpose of solving the real eritrean problem became since then, frequently, a secondary issue.

        Your further reading advice into the matter is an idea what i also strongly concur. probably the Awate may want to contemplate creating an online database, with links as needed; this would be the correct way to go.

        I further think, the topics touched by the author alone–with the discussion and input in this forum–would be, a good concept paper to write a grant paper asking funding from AU, GCC, Arab league, or NSF; for a collaborative research from sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia, even Egypt and Syria included.

        Thanks

        • Ismail AA

          Ahlen Mez,
          Thanks for engaging.
          First, the words ‘pure’ and ‘academic’ were not intended to “belittle the role of education and research in society”, to borrow your words. I think there is not direct or indirect relation of the topic you raised. The intended sense was that given the time that had already elapsed, discussing the issue has less relevance to currently topical issues such the regime in our country or the general region.
          Regards

          • Mez

            Greetings Ismail,

            I highly appreciate your engagement, and honesty; I am also understanding your angle of view now better.

            I’m primarily for academic curiosity and research; in that sense 50+ years are like 50 seconds.

            There is a say, by Von Braun, “you are doing a research when you don’t know what you are doing”.

            This is my angle of view and I am very apolitical.

            Thanks

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Mez,

      There is none of any kind of help be it fanancial or military hardwares from USSR to our revolutions. In fact Ethiopia was armed to the teeth by USSR against our revolution in the 70s and 80s which included Stalin organ, aerial cluster bombs,napalm flammable bombs, Modern Migs…etc. In short the Eritrean revolution endured and resisted modern USSR weapons and defeat the Ethiopian army. This is the historical facts the Eritrean revolution has registered in our modern history. So Mr Mez there is no hidden history to be disclosed than the fact I have stated.

      Regards

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Aman, I think Mez is not claiming a direct USSR support to our liberation struggle, but rather, a possible indirect involvement through its allies like Syria during the reign of HS. One of the strangest facts of our revolution is that, at a time of the Cold War era when the two main antagonizing superpowers, the USA, and USSR were normally aiding a corresponding opposing sides, that was not the practice in our case. When the Derg dismissed the USA, and sided with its foe the Soviets, then one would naturally expect, the USA along side with the West to back the Eritreans. This issue is one of the mysteries I fail to grasp when it comes to our liberation struggle.
        In his interview yesterday, DIA tried to explain this fact as if it was our own deliberate choice not to be part of any alliances; something that I would say was ‘t’delyeo emo yizingeakin’ type of talk.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Merhaba Abraham,

          Yes the Soviet union at that time was busy in arming the Arab countries who had relatively socialist orientations like the Arab Socialist Ba’ath parties in Syria and Iraq; the Islamic socialist of Egypt and Libya, while the West were assisting to the rest Arab counties. Since the Arab countries was supporting the cause of the Eritrean revolution (whether they were pro West or East) we were getting financial and military aid from both sides. Their help has nothing to do with the policy of the west or the east, as oppose to their own help from the western and eastern bloc. Therefore their help to our revolution is simply predicated on supporting to our “cause” for self-determination and independence of the Eritrean people. Since their aids were not policy and ideological driven, we can not attribute it as indirect help from the west or the east bloc. So from my point view, the strong support of the Arab countries to our revolution was on non-ideological basis, that makes it unique and complicate relationships at least on its surface, to imply it to the east and west bloc contradiction. Yes politically on its big picture, can not be dissociated from the regional geopolitics, but if you see it from the financial and military aids of the Arab countries it does not go with the norm of the ideological blocs in the geopolitics of the region. And therefore there weren’t indirect help from the west and east to the Eritrean revolution.

          regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            The aid that eritrea was receiving from arab countries was indeed not ideologically driven, but it was mainly geopolitical and arab – muslim (elf) solidarity.
            Arab nations were against israel’s presence and influence in ethiopia, where the king who calls himself the lion of judah, was seen in a way as an extension of the jewish state. Even after ethiopia broke diplomatic relations with israel due to palestine in the 1970s, arab countries continued to help the eritrean liberation front.
            In addition, some arab officials (especially in egypt and ksa), entertained the idea of making the red sea an arab lake, by displacing ethiopia from the western red sea shore. Egypt was planning to control the suez and the bab-el-mandeb strait, with the aim to block israel’s access to the indian ocean, and thus causing the economic strangulation of israel.
            Therefore, geopolitics played the major role in the help arabs were giving to eritrea, and they saw self-determination and independence of the eritrean people something that served their purpose, and not as their the main reason for helping eritrea.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear great thinker (ETHIIPIAN) I 2nd Horizon ..

            You are great thinker.. I 2nd you on this.. when I was in ELF I remember this what you are saying was seen also some among those supporter were arrested …Just to remind some of ELF X- members like Amanuel …

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Tell me more.
            Thanks

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            Don’t think I will agree with you our struggle..”slave of Arabs ” as you thought ..

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            We have other areas where we agree. We don’t have to agree all the time. I don’t even agree with myself all the time. One area we agree is your struggle didn’t bring the desired result. Far from it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            For the Eritrean revolution, it does matter from what side it comes the much needed help, as far as it promotes a strength and recognition to our cause. So, be it from the geopolical influence or from real recognition, it served to our revolution. History has closed that chapter, and I urge you to look forward and work for peaceful coexistence.

            Regards

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel,

            Please don’t rush to close chapters quickly, at least for the sake of research-curiosity; that will help fix falacies and rectify policy lines, to say the least.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Mez,

            Whether you could swallow it or not, the Eritrean independence is a closed chapter once we become member of the international community. Again, as to the nature of the help we got, it doesn’t matter for us as far as it served to the recognition of the Eritrean revolution. The Eritrean cause wasn’t conducted at the bidding of one man or a few people, however great they may be. It was the bid of the vast majority of Eritrean people, and hence its success by colliding the interest of the regional actors. A tremendous success in our continent.

            regards

          • Abi

            Hi Amanuel
            How do you call it ” a tremendous success ” if all your struggle achieved is sending a one time proud and relatively successful Eritreans to refugee camps all over the world?
            What does success mean to you? A flag on some building in New York City? What do you think will be the reaction of an Eritrean refugee if he reads your bragging? Would you still be bragging if you were in a refugee camp? Of course, you and your family are in a safe place benefiting from whatever the country provides. Why don’t you send your children to one of the refugee camps and see if you keep bragging.
            Please have some shame.

          • Mez

            Good Day
            Dear Amanuel, Ismail, and others,

            I would suggest the following bench mark boundary conditions before I go ahead and reply to the discussion input by both of you:

            my understanding is that we all discuss inherently based on our research-curiosity, and the will to understand things scientifically, and nothing else.

            As a benchmark,–for all discussion purposes–the Eritrean revolution solely started due to a) the non-respecting of the federation laws, primarily by the then Ethiopian government, and b)the subsequent illegal and one sided dissolution of the Federation by Ethiopia, c) on the economic integration side, things were progressing better; ethiopia did not had any industry–so to speak– and eritrean products were widely demanded across Ethiopia; ports were open for import export to and from the whole Ethiopia, d) there was no any visible segregation against Eritrean in the whole Ethiopia.

            As a result, the political dissatisfaction and disillusionment of the Eritrean–especially the young generation–created a social movement to reverse the dissolution of the federation; latter on the movement developed to look for for complete independence of Eritrea from ethiopia.

            Will this be ok, or i miss something?

            Thanks

          • blink

            Dear mez
            Even if the federation was respected the question for independent country was a must . so do not just fool yourself about B , C .

          • Mez

            Dear Blink,

            I have no idea what may happen if the federation was aborted.

            Thanks

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Horizon,
            Don’t you think you are over symplifying the geopolitical conflict as Arab-Israel? I understand that was the official Ethiopian line of propaganda. But the world was bipolar. While any other country (including Ethiopia) was a pawn, the real conflict was between the Soviet Union and the USA. Everything else was a nd had to align with one or the other.

          • Selam SJG,

            The geopolitical antagonism between arabs and israelis in the region was much more strong and important than that of the two world powers, which of course in general terms were ubiquitous as much as world politics is concerned. I do not think that we can ascribe the start of the eritrean war of independence to the cold war. If the two powers have been drawn into the conflict directly and indirectly during the duration of the thirty years war, that is a different matter. Although the majority of eritreans deny it, eritrean revolution was theorized and planned in cairo, and facilitated by arab countries.
            On the contrary, the invasion of ethiopia by somalia was the result of the struggle of the two world powers in the region. The change of sides of the usa and the soviet union in the ethio-somali war was characteristic of the roles played by the two powers during the cold war.

          • Mez

            Dear Horizon,

            “The geopolitical antagonism between arabs and israelis in the region was much more strong and important than that of the two world powers…”

            No way, think deeper Sir.

            Thanks

          • Selam Mez,

            I was talking in relations to the horn of africa, and especially eritrea and ethiopia. Remember, to the british, eritrea was a problem they wanted to dispose off as quickly as possible and get out of the region, and to the world powers, the federation was the end of the problem of eritrea, but not to arabs and israelis. Of course, arabs and israelis were always under the influence of the world powers, as anybody was, nevertheless, they could not control the strategic interest of individual countries and the way they acted.
            After the formation of the state of israel (1948) and palestinians became refugees for the first time, egypt under Nasser was emerging as the leader of the arab world, and the1967 war, both (arabs and israelis) wanted to influence the horn of africa for their own geopolitical interests. The broader middle east area is another story.

          • Mez

            Dear Horizon,
            this may get out of the context of the article under discussion, but the horn of africa conflict was in the center of the cold war. Make no mistak.

            thanks

          • G. Gebru

            Dear Aman,
            I think if one is to talk about the geopolitics of that era, I think the main was the Arab, Isreali cinflict. Even though the Arabs were divided into two blocks as pro Soviet and pro America their stand regarding Ethiopia was identical. And any country that involves itself in such conflicts have to take a political decision and this alone is enough to indicate that thier help was pilitically motivated.
            But worse of all is that nobody is thanking them today, and the independence that they stained their hands is also injeopardy.
            Thanks.

          • Mez

            Dear Gebru, the author of the article did not indicate if there was an engagement of the Western-camp arab countries.

            So it was safe to assume, it was exclusively the Egyptian and Syrian connection, what mattered then.

            Thanks

          • G. Gebru

            Dear Mez,
            Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, The PLO etc. Were involved. Of all these the only country that played a posotive role in terms of helping civilian Eritreans was the Kingdom of Saudi Arabi due to the genious of martyr Osman Saleh Sebe, may God bless his soul. The Saudis issued free residence permits to Eritreans that started I think in 1977 which gave Eritreans ample opportunity to work and move freely in the country, that gave the opportunity to help their relatives back home and contribute to the then two fuctions ELF & EPLF which was of a tremendous help at that time. Besides that many families were able to travel to Europe and America with that Saudi earned money.
            Here I do not want to pass with out thanking the late Osman Denden who represented Osman Saleh Sebe and the late Abdu Jameel who took the reponsibliy of sponsering more than a thousand Eritreans and many other Eritreans like him. May the blessing of God will be with all of them.
            Thanks.

          • Mez

            Good day Gebru, i am talking mainly based on the paper above and the event then. Nothing else.

            The time sequence matters profoundly.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear G.Gebru,

            Of course, if the Eritrean cause was a “political cause”, then any aid to our cause is politically motivated. This should be taken as basis of understanding as to the nature of the conflict. What I have stated in my earlier comment was, that the help from the Arabs wasn’t on ideological basis – for we were getting from both ideological influences of the Arab countries. I hope I am clear now.

            regards

          • G. Gebru

            Dear Aman,
            Yes you are clear. It is our internal conflict that makes us look at things from different prospectives, and since we believe that our goal is achieved it is better to leave things as they are and look to the future and wait for what it holds us.
            Thanks.
            Thanks.

        • Mez

          Dear Abraham,

          A very good observation, when you say: “One of the strangest facts of our revolution is that, at a time of the Cold War era when the two main antagonizing superpowers, the USA, and USSR were normally aiding a corresponding opposing sides, that was not the practice in our case. ”

          It may need much further analysys, and some disillusionment; but it could really be addressed with a standalone paper dedicated to it.

          Thanks

      • Mez

        Dear Amanuel,
        I am not saying there is hidden history, but rather discussing some of the historical narrations, based on facts on the paper under discussion. What I am saying is based on what we red, there is the need to dig in for some more facts, with the intent to better under about the events back then.

        I am not working to polish or tarnish any political movement or personality. Inherently every political contribution is a welcome contribution and i have no problem with any political current.

        I am very specific, and am discussing things from the perspective of the article above; and not about the events happened way after the era the article is talking about. This article clearly stated that there was a military support from the the Syrian government, and the Baath party of syria.

        It also discussed in detail the transportation process, which was done under the curtain of darkness. If you further think, that time the Syrian Airline possesses DC-3 variant of plane with around 100 passenger capacity; from this information I assume it may deliver 10-15 tone of load per flight. From the above write-up, you can safely assume that it flew at least three times; and let also assume that it was each time a solo flight. If the last load is confiscated, the first two loads must have been passed successfully into the Eritrean soil. This means in those early days there was a transfer of 40-50 tones of military ware.

        All the discussion is not to belittle what everyone contributed to the revolution of the country; it is rather to better understand and follow up how the events took place then, and what lesson to learn for now and the future.

        Sometimes, the event of that early years, across Eritrea, resembles to me like a sort of the contemporary Arab-Spring social phenomenon–but a much deadly version.

        Thanks

  • G. Gebru

    Berhe Y, selamat.
    The Ethiopians fought in Eritrea believing that Eritrea was part and parcel of greater Ethiopia. Even though the are many Ethiopians do not agree with the way the government of that day handled the Eritrean case and the tragedy that befall the inocent Eritreans, such as what happened on the western lowlands of Eritrea in the late sixties, in the long run for them it was a just war.
    When we come to our Eritrea the revolution started awakwardly even though with the passage of time the ELF tried to reform and correct things as unfortunate I we are it was exiled by local and external conspirecy and with its exile that little beam

    • Berhe Y

      Dear G.G.

      I think a little honest goes a long way. I do not have direct experience but knowing what we know, I think it’s total bs and full of negative propoganda from IA and his niHnan Elamanan disciples.

      For example even talking to members of ELF of the time they buy this notion “ab meriHinet Jebha gegatat neyru eyu”, and then we see and learn all the daylight, they don’t even pretend or do in hiding the leadership of EPLF open abuse of the people in broad day light.

      When we say ELF leaders made a mistake, compare to whom. The Derg, HS, EPLF.

      They did not target civilians (Ethiopian or Eritrean), they did not target public infrastructure, they did not kill innocent people, they did not burn villages, rape girls or any of negative stuff associated with bad gurilla movement. And worst of all to paint them as Islamists for the cause of others in the Arab world.

      The Ethiopian PM told HS that we should honour the federation and accept fully and do not do anything to change it. If we must we have to put to the Eritrean people referendum and let them decide.

      It’s very, very simple, the ERITREAN people (at least half of them) supported the union with Ethiopia.

      WelWel wrote many articles titled “Eritrea nmem, Eritrea for whom” and his argument was for Ethiopia. There was no bad intention from Eritreans to undo the federation.

      But we weren’t able to handle our differences peacefully and accept the other side and compromise and move on. We do not know (specially those of us from Kebesa), ok let’s go and move on and give time another day, which solves most of the problems.

      We see it in pfdj eritrea, we see it in the community centres, we see it in the church, we see it everywhere, we do NOT understand what it means to be patient and move on.

      As for Ethiopians fighting to keep their interests, they have the whole country willingly joined them and accepted them.

      HS never got any reception better than that of Eritrea. When the coup was attempted, he flow directly to Eritrea and its the Eritrea chief of police / security Tedla Uqbut refusal to join that helped fail the coup.

      Then he was killed by the same people he helped save.

      They assassinated kebire.

      The exiled WelWel

      The demoted Qeshi Demetros (symbolic sender) and Asfaha Woldemichael (minister of justice).

      there was was small hope with Aman Andom, and they killed him.

      And then come the Derg, everything towards the war.

      Just remember, Eritreans always made themselves available to any negotiations and peaceful resolution.

      Berhe

  • Dear all,

    Is it possible to say that egyptians still behave as masters towards africans? Although not yet fully confirmed, it is about a story carried by the bbc, which says that angelina jolie is supposedly to make a movie depicting a princess of ancient meroe, to bring tourism in sudan to the world attention, that would be funded by a qatari princess.
    It seems that egyptians are opposed to the development of tourism in the sudan, and the egyptian media is awash with ridiculing the meroitic civilization, and criticizing the whole matter.
    Egyptians still look at the sudan as their southern province, and the relations between cairo and khartoum do not seem so rosy, due to the occupation of sudanese land by egypt, khartoum’s support of the renaissance dam, etc.

    Last time egyptian officials came back for readmission to the nile initiative with the same 1959 self-serving agreement on the nile it made with the sudan (which was the main reason they were forced to leave in the first place), as if africans are easy to fool. Of course, egypt was rejected again.

    (I do not know when your saturday starts, here it is already saturday morning, and i am posting a link).
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39972853

    • Mez

      Good Day Horizon,

      Egyptians are in the process of realignment with the new geopolitical reality of this part of the Globe; hopefully to the better.

      Thanks

      • Selamat Memhir Mez,

        Energy is the unifier. I truly believe, Capital from near and far has been engineering the IGAD sub region, the adjacent Middle East sub region this current stage.

        Much like, the current article translation by Mr. Burhan Ali, expect an explosion of books regarding the Eritrean and Ethiopian armed rebellions against HIM Haile Slassie I. Mainly from Three perspectives that are in fierce contention for political power at this critical juncture.

        Starting with the Awate’s Institute decision to publish Burhan Ali’s arduous work as is, I.e. without facts checking and numerous details, Global Capital’s designed, planned and engineered exact picture for HoA could be put together utilizing scholarly tools with academic integrity.

        Here is AmEritrean GitSAtSE’s suggestion to you Memhir Mez, and by extension to all the readers:

        Rather than defining or identifying one self as part of the utilized/manipulated by Yesteryear’s Capital, it is best to pay very close attention as to how Today’s Capital is further manipulating the societies to further engineer it in accordance with their envisioned final finished product. That is, if the one is desiring of victory to his/her/their causes of strong and very VESTED CONVICTIONS. The soon to be realized finished product need not be seen as an end to be opposed, obstructed, or stopped/destroyed. On the contrary, it is to be fully endorsed and sought after. Assuring one’s deserved full owner’s benefits from the imminent HoA Explosive Boom being the NAME OF THE GAME shall THE JUST and honest academics pursue.

        Dear Mez, Yes I am in agreement with your “#Grandsons, #2XGDP, #MiEbale HintSA Hagere Dembelas, etc…” assessment. I have been and am gladly complicit with the mapped out road. However, there IS A SIGNIFICANT BLIND SIDE, either by one or both of us that gives rise to the SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN OUR RESPECTIVE IMPERATIVE NARRATIVES coupled with OUR IMPERATIVE ACTIONS.

        I will not however, ala launching GitSAtSE’s 6th Offensive narratives of recent, provoke to RIGHT ACTION, both the Eritrean as well as Ethiopian, with my usual unorderly fashion and here at this medium. The modus operandi, (and YES, there was and is a method to gitSAtSE’s madness) has arrived to the end point of it’s usefulness. I am confident you Mez and others will follow closely as I will be dipping my fishing hook periodically. Yes, the advising those eager for a WIN will continue and the unnecessary labor for the Loss of the OTHERS will be the avenue. LOSSES AFTER ALL, you will agree, ARE ALWAYS SELF INDUCED.

        Qns to Temeharay Mez of the School AmerGitSAtSE Azilo40 Agniyeya40:

        1.) Can you identify, or speculate, what/who “Mainly Three perspectives in contention for political power in HoA…” are?
        2.) List the parallel branches or of shoot from the three vying for political power in HoA? List some examples of revisionists history highlighted at awate institute? Utilized your artistic impressions of the styles inclusive of the latest absurdities.
        3.) By way of Hiniti Dub72ueces, Do you think we will see Part2 of Saay7’s impassioned letter to the YPFDJ or has it come and passed us unawoke folks and the Captain is now a focused TITAN Boxer? Also, do you believe Gheteb’s Andellusian Abraham Miniseries has found syndication on Eri-Tv?

        Well, I am short, but not fresh out, of the mathematics artistry. Instead, I will recommend you the Book by Thomas Pikketty: Capital. That is if Memhir Mez has not picked it up already.
        I look forward to your inputs. I forsee a Saleh Younis Vs. Abdulrahman Seyed May 30th bout like debate between you and tSAtSE. Yes a palltalk debate Mez Vs. tSAtSE. Oh yeah, the Two Titans debating will be shredded to pieces first and then challenged to a debate–could be by Mez, by tSAtSE or Both. [And KindishiH is allowed to pursue his “Qemish Adeyy HanQuilunni” Front. Last second to Midnight converts are as valuable as Since the Dawn Early Light Stars of Eritrea. Of the conversions of those TEETH ONLY yet BODY LESS Ineffectives, GitSAtSE is Certain! Captain Saay7 included:)]

        Make a Stand on 17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

        2Vs
        Dub72ueces
        AmEritrean GitSAtSE

        • Mez

          Good Day መምህር ግሣፄ

          I strongly believe the Horn of Africa (IGAD) shall emulate the interactions and path of Germany-Austria-Switzerland.

          Our academia may want to ponder on the historical and contemporary discordance-harmony; love-hate; hate-love; economy-science; capital-job-creation; above all: the art of honesty as a foundation of our common house Eritrea.

          Thanks

          • Memhir Mez,

            Awssssome! I would like to discuss Chaos Theory as well as The Incompletenes Theory of Mathematics… But (Yes Vet Teg Semere Tesfay) we are all hubunat of Eritrean Independence Day..
            Yohann to you Memhir Mez and all..

            I personally will now put on play and repeat 24 Times Wed Tikuls Melodic tune with the following lyrics:

            Entayy iyyu Hzbeyy natka Gide
            Bahgi libina Have
            AamatSina ms Teferde
            TemeAArare TeseraE Teshamo hzbeyy
            Keynikhewnn shishayy guanna
            ….
            MesariEna kibettatnnn…

            tSAtSE

          • Mez

            Dear Gitsatse,

            I am happy for our common love of Wed Tikul!

            Enjoy it!

            Thanks

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Folks,
    During the funeral service of the late Mufti of Eritrea Sheik Al’amin Osman, may he rest in peace, there was one incident that attracted my attention. Unlike in other similar occasions, dictator Isayas arrived at the funeral alone, without any other of the top officials, and he was literally surrounded by an army of guards on all sides. Is this one more step further towards his undisputed ‘absolute ruler’ status? I wonder, what do you say awatistas?

    • MS

      Selam AbrahamH
      May be you saw a camera angle that showed what you stated above, but the procession and the funeral service were full of representatives of religious denominations and high appointees of the government including the Chief of Staff of the EDF. Generally speaking the Mufti is a political appointee, and true to that mandate, he has been serving the dictator that had picked him to that position. The Mufti will most probably remembered for his acquiescence in light of the political and humanitarian crimes the regime has been committing on Eritreans. It is very sad that the first Mufti of independent Eritrea has left the world without having to correct his position; he died serving the despot. Ena lelehai wo ena eleyhi rajEin (We belong to Allah and to him we shall return).

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear MS ,

        Thank you MS..challenging the dead is not wisdom “Ena lelehai wo ena eleyhi rajEoon (We belong to Allah and to him we shall return).” let copy pest it .

        KS..

      • Abraham H.

        Selam MS, that is right, most of the regime officials were present, but my emphasis was on how the dictator arrived at the venue, I couldn’t see anyone of his henchmen walking with him, plus he was sorrounded by a bunch of guards.

        • Kebessa

          Selam Abraham,
          Yeah Prez Isaias did his interview without the usual fanfare. SAAY is the expert on Isaias’ change of behavior, so let’s wait for his advise. But the unannounced nature of the interview was the only change. Q&A the same. In a nutshell, Egypt got hugged, the Woyanes got crucified, the rest of the world got rediculed. On the home front, “this should’ve been done” listed, agriculture analyzed, people are advised to see his works impact in a 5 or 10 years span and not year to year.
          You are up to date now.

          • saay7

            Selam Kebessa:

            Your summary was so good I tweeted it.

            Here’s what I got so far about all IA interviews:

            No matter the occasion, Eri-tv Zena interviews are an occasion for President Isaias Afwerki to hit “play” on the “IA mixtape.” Whatever the year of the interview is the year of final preparation/study/research and this year plus one or two is the year that the problem (water shortage/housing shortage/inflation/constitution drafting/Weyane in power/world’s lack of recognition of the righteousness of the Eri govt) will be finally reversed, critical mass will be reached, and progress will be made with extra momentum.

            Eritrea has roadmaps, Ethiopia has white elephants (millennial dam), the uni-polar world is collapsing, Eritreas diplomacy is bearing fruit. Self-reliance is out, partnership (Egypt, Saudi) is in. In every interview we need one counter narrative and yesterdays was this: Italys occupation of Eritrea is a so-called occupation, there was no Italian occupation of Eritrea, Libya or Somalia. It was all 120,000 Eritrean soldiers who did it all. And therefore? Who knows?

            The last one (denying Italian occupation of Eritrea Somalia and Italy) and giving all the credit to the 120,000 Eritrean askaris was in response to a question by Asmelash as to why there is so much opposition by the world to Eritrea.

            I was going to write an article about this but I asked myself why

            saay

          • MS

            Ahlan Saleh
            I think you have decided wisely. Or you could have just pulled out any of your previous articles and it would be as updated as it could be since there is no change in style and substance.

          • saay7

            MaHmuday:

            I am going to need you to activate your Sahelian training and help out a brother here. Because cuz Gheteb is not here.

            IA was asked a boilerplate question by Asmelash: why is it that “they” (you know who) come after Eritrea with one attack after another: sanctions, weaponizing human rights and who knows what’s next. Why? We are not a big country, we don’t have menacing benefactors….why?”

            This is they type of softball question that lets IA play his mixtape: World War II, unipolar world, Fukuyama, Huntington, hegemon, khedemti.

            But he does something surprising and mystifying. He says “during Italian occupation of Eritrea, I call it occupation within quotes, because it’s something I have attempted to investigate, Italy didn’t occupy Eritrea, Somalia or Libya. It was the 120,000 Eritrean soldiers. Who are they?….”

            Considering that these 120,000 soldiers were conscripted soldiers, ordinary farmers and pastoralists, considering that these people were subjects of the most racists policies of fascist Italy, I really have to ask with all respect to the Office of the President:

            Has this guy totally lost his mind? What the hell is he talking about? And what is its relevance to Asmelashs question?

            Help. Gheteb, help out your cuz. This is like a splinter in my head to borrow a phrase from Morpheus.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            I don’t know that I have an answer that you don’t know the answer.

            But understanding the response literally without questioning what to do with question, I think he meant like this.

            Italy has 120,000 Eritrean solidiers. And Italy stay in Eritrea is not really considered “occupation” because their entire are / most majority is made up if ERitreans. There for it’s not Utaly that occupied Somalia or Lybia but the Eritrean solidiers.

            In other words, Eritrea was not occupied how can occupy your own country if the are is made up from you, and Libya and Somalia were under Eritrea occupation.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            Although I have no knowledge of what he said exactly in the interview, from the interpretation you gave, one is forced to conclude that he is either confused, or he wants to re-write history.
            Italy had 120k eritrean ascaris, that were in actual fact the occupying force in eritrea, somalia and libya. I do not know how ethiopians should call from now on the five years of occupation, italian or eritrean? Weird times.
            These soldiers were armed, paid and were executing the orders of italian officers, who had a life and death right over them. They, their families, and the whole population lived segregated as second class citizens serving the italian colonialist, and not for once did they raise arms against them.
            May be this is a new definition of occupation or colonialism. As long as the army that came from the local population was the majority, and by extension as long as the indigenous people were also the majority, then there is no occupation or colonialism. This goes for all africans and the whole world as well. Up to now, nobody except dia knew that europeans were on a safari trip in africa and not colonizers. What a nice way to blissfully ignore the reality.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            You have not been paying attention!
            Ethiopia was colonized by Eritrea until 1998. Happy Independence Day!!!

            Question
            Is there such thing as self colonization? May be IA will elaborate for self Independence Day. Let’s hope somebody will be nice enough to translate his zibazinke.

          • saay7

            Hi Berhe:

            I once heard an interview of the author of The History of English Speaking People Since 1900 (A follow up to Churchills love note to all English speaking natives ie Britons, Americans, Canadians, Audtralians and New Zealanders). The author was bragging about how few Brit officers, civil servants were able to subdue all their colonies in places like Kenya because the people largely accepted their civilized rule. (Never mind the routine atrocities used to pacify the folk.)

            I can expect a similar attempt by Italians, and other colonizer. I don’t understand how the colonized would want to take credit for the conscripted enforcers of colonization. This my asking for help. And how does this explain why the world fears/hates Eritrea, itself a most dubious claim?

            Saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            I was just trying sarcastic but who knows, his support base will start repeating what he said. “Italy was not the real colonizer of Libiya and Somalia but it’s actually Eritrea. That’s why the west are affraid Eritrea so much”, so it doesn’t colonize Djibouti, and may be Ethiopia”.

            I have made pledge never to read Gheteb again but I would break my pledge and read if he ever bothered to explain this. Who knows he may have another Adulusian explanation or working on a long article.

            Bethe

          • saay7

            Hi Berhe:

            I think his point is that Italy was executing somebody else’s orders (indirect rule) which is a point he has previously made about Ethiopian rule as also being indirect, remote controlled by someone else (the victors of World War II.)

            What’s new here, and what I just don’t understand, is why he introduced the 150,000 Eritrean conscripted soldiers and his claim that he has conducted some research on them and then challenges the audience”does anyone know about their history”? Duh, of course we do: they are every Eritreans grandpa and they were ordinary conscripted folk who were forced to abandon their farms and small business to serve in Tripoli. And all they did was tell their stories.

            I hope somewhere in all this “mrmr” he did is not some conclusion that has shaped his mind: that Eritreans are born warriors.

            saay

          • Selamat Berhe Yeman,

            Here since I am on the ignore list until he can’t take it no more and jog all the way with his fists clenched from the South to the East Bay in under 2 hours, please relay this remedy to Saau7’s splinter in his head. His BojBaj Cuz Gheteb suffered the same….

            IA’s is justifying Today’s Colonizers of Eritrea, in the form of Bisha, Tomato Cannery, Port of Aseb Renters, I.e. are Eritrean people’s benefactors employing them as house boys, maids, baby sitters…much like the Senora Bianca and Don Fetuccini Alfredo Marinara DA Barkaweise. A handful of Cotton Field Baratole Masters who have teach us to immulate their (open button chess revealing quintessential asmarino machismo;) Italian Va Bini Koyo who mean no harm to the few of us priveleged, house negros, as they hurl their racist insults as we dine with them on their dining table. We have set up employment with our agencies assuring full payment is timely to our Eritrea poor Hafash People, subtracting Two Thirds of the Hourly/Monthly wage rates for administrative costs, before Taxes of course. Yes Today’s Italian/European Industrialists without hageling, take advantage of the cheap factory labor force we provide as we assure close to 50/50 State equal partnership share by deploying the EDF when heavy construction or high volume production seasons without incentives as we have perfected our shpeal of national reconstruction service etc…
            Yeah These Don Pastini Fettuccini Segnores and Dona Segnora Conoli Past in I Dolcce are not colonizers as The Eritrean Armed Forces are 300,000 strong, and yes even in Asmara’s Golden Age, circa The Great Gatsby Askaries were 120,000 strong. The military was Eritrean. There was no occupation by the Italians then And Trust ME/US, the honorary Negro Italianos, HNCs, there is no displacement of the indiginous slow encroachment to Estato Dominale nor manifest destiny by Gulf States or Egypt. We are glad to facilitate the voluntary exit, for a small nominal kick backs and give rise to entrepreneurs “Good Fellas” class of Eritreans. Alleviating housing shortage and the unnecessary unplanned city clutter that puts pressure on municipality and other infrustructors rendering us Sold at I Gladiators these people, izi hzbi izi, we delivered freedom too. Yes, they can settle and move from the highlands as the low lands are open country or if they claim to be Aggaazians or A game, by all means go move South of the Mereb.
            Now, the small strip, military air strip in Assab, the very same inlet for El Ducce’s Italia small reconosence contingent, I assure you will not control or pay wages to the EDF as they dig wells for black gold. And If they do, we the few privilaged AbdulaHsAndetSions will adobt to golden trimmed emire robes jalabias and those cool head scarfs much like we adapted to Millanos fashions.

            No, no Eritrea was never occupied and will never be. The Wardia Guards Nacionale was and will always be Eritrean Conscripts.

            You see Ethiopian Lie of never been a victim to subjugation/ Occupation by foreign and or European colony is a LIE!!! Partially okay…It was in fact Eritrea that is the only African nation that has not been occupied. In fact it was Eritrean Armed Forces that occupied Ethiopia. Yes Eritreans, we certainly out mannovered Weyanes or Ethiopia’s ploys to ever invade us! We have brought back the same characters ofcthec1889 Teaty of nuestro Eritrea Nacionale, mezo costa Mare Roso do Italia, e Nuss BaHre Am AHmer Am Areb.

            Yes, Arabic is a valid Eritrean language, Eritrea does not only belong to Tigrigna if at all.

            Folks and Saay7, hopefully I have stitched it glued your splintered heads. But this is not out or from my narcotics induced over imaginative alternate reality seeking narrative.

            On the Eve of Eritrea’s Independence, the PFDJ Cadres are conducting marathon pal talk seminar digging the defense trenches WITH THESE VERY DEFENSIVE TALKS. SeraQ mobaRlE’s baElu ylefaleff ilum aboHagotatna. Maledeti TebeletSti…

            Zelalemawi Barinett keykown Tarikhka … So walta Harinet YkeAlu GubuE Halafinet MerHka Kab tSibaH tsIbaH ends belka aytevaKgiba!

            Dai Avanti Levantate End ’17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

            Gdefomm Tarikh nsomm dHritt ends Temetu nay Ani mil move ciento venty nove mendeQ Nora ciento ani ends TeQelTTe an neisinetom tubb adiomm kemtegozgizu, kem Medussa zenQetSetomm Hawelti ynQetSu!

            Enter nsikha Eritreawi MenEiseyy beHaberaa TelaAll tSibaH 5/24 ’17!!!

            Be quick and catch the PFDJ pal talk narrative to confirm my report above. Oh.. Never mind, Kubur President has confirmed it.

            tSAtSE

          • MS

            Selma Saleh,
            Best wishes of Romadan…
            About nine years ago, in an European capital, an old friend-turned Ambassador invited me to his office graciously. He knew I was wallowing in the opposition sites so he wanted to know, you know, what I was up to. Anyway, I presented a long list of protest against his government, and why I could never see myself as a PFDJite…He gave me the official explanation that most of us hear from the president or his “advisor’. Anyway, at the end I asked him point blank, and exactly the way the president was asked, “Why do the Americas and other superpowers want to torture us, why, what have we done to them, what have we denied them that they should be getting if we are out of their way?” I explained exactly the way Asmelash did: that we are a small and poor country, that we are not even in their diplomatic radar…We don’t have a muscle that the Egyptians or Ethiopians have due to their size…We don’t have the oil wells tha Kuwaities have, we don’t have the leverage the Israelis have in USA domestic politics and financial centers…”Why, and What?” I demanded. If you remember that was when Eritrea was embroiled yet in another border conflict and IA was denying it saying it was not Dgibouti but the extended arms of USA and the CIA. The Ambassador went out of his way to explain how USA was against Eritrean independence invoking your favorite John Dallas Foster’s quote, he explained Eritrea’s strategic location…and Eritrea’s unique vision that Africans and other developing countries should own their developmental agenda etcetera, et centeral. I listened and I had answers to all of his points, back to the current interview…
            In our Facebook conversation I mentioned an explanation (GIXaxe will frame it in a hypnosis/theory postulates), but I know very few people watch these monotonous annual interviews. I can also be sure that this year’s interview of the president was the poorest ever in terms of the substance, deliverance, the man’s state of mind, the coherence of his speech, his transitions…
            He likes to use the word “meQan” or context, and unless you have a free journalist who could redirect people like IA they will take you through twists and turns until the audience forget what the origina question was. There is no rational explanation why he should continue in power (no economic, security, or political deliverance to the people), so he should look for other explanation why he should be the ONLY man needed. Ethiopia is too small a player for him. Sudan? Nah. It is even smaller. Dgibouti…Somalai…No. Saudi’s and the Gulf? May be, because by extension he is putting himself in the club of regional players…But he has to aim at USA, the big fat nemesis…The Ayatollahs have done it and they are comfortably well. Saddam Hussein did it until he made a fatal mistake, Gadafi did it and it served him well until he had overdone it by blowing up American airline (Locorbie) and American soldiers nightclub in Germany….IA knows he could go away with it because the current hot geopolitical item is fighting terrorism and as long as he keeps the Red Sea corridor safe, he knows the Americans will absorb his misadventures. To them, he is a nuance that they could tolerate, and if needed could humiliate and punish him through sanctions….Where Am I? You see the Sahelian syndrome is all over us. I should have replied by saying the man is mentally finished. Nothing has left of him that Gehteb could embellish…the man who Gehteb saw in Keren in 1977, came to that church because so many gallant Eritrean fighters had paved the way for him. The man that Gehteb saw wallowing in the outskirts of Keren, during the 1978, withdrawal, was there because so many gallant Eritreans were defending the the city, they were taking in assaults after assaults so that Keren could be vacated and, well, IA could be driving his old Landrover around the city to show off that he was the only standing man amid the chaos*…the man who lectured Gehteb in the glistening rooms of Sudan and USA did so because so many gallant fighters were defending Sahel and Nakfa. He was proud and tall because of the sacrifices of those gallant Eritreans. The man who entered Asmara proudly straight from the talks in London did so because so many Eritreans fell in liberating Asmara. He started first going against those same people who brought him to power, and then, he extended his purge to include the whole country. Today, he is bare and hollow, out of steam, out of ideas…repeating the same ranting for the umpteenth ….
            * The most Shaebian inner guy, Ahmed Alqaysi, says that IA was not around for most of the withdrawal months (1978-79). Of course, he could lead the operations even from Khartoum, the point is: You remember the heated debates we had in this forum. Some led by Gehteb trying to give the credits to IA, and most of us defending the ingenuity and sacrifice of each and every Eritrean in defending Nakfa/Sahel, and by extension defending the revolution including spreading it to Ethiopia….
            Happy Independence Day.

          • saay7

            Whoa MaHmuday

            I am just a hairy-calf guy who has no ambassador friend 🙂 I reached out to a friend (she is not an ambassador but she is one of the smartest people I know) to ask about the splinter in my brain, this thing Isaias said in the interview about the 150,000 Askari Eritreans who served Colonial Italy in its occupation of Libya, Somalia and Ethiopia and this is what she says:

            He was saying though people call it Italian colony, in real sense it was Eritrean colony – be it in Libya, Somalia or Ethiopia. The world saw as as a superpower since that time, they saw us as a threat to the imperial powers and that is why they denied us our independence when they did not do so to the other Italian colony. Again it is the syndrome of grandiose.

            If this is true if this was the prevalent view of the elite of EPLF, then I have a lot of spraining to do to Tkifle, Eyob and other Ethiopians.

            Say it ain’t so MaHmuday. Say this is just from the fertile mind of Isaias Afwerki.

            saay

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,
            .
            May I present the alternative narrative prior to the upcoming Adulisian one. Thank you.
            My acquired knowledge and all the field research were done here at Awate University.
            .
            They say that a Rooster coming in for the day through the door for the night, inspects the entrance and lowers its head before entering. It is believed that the Rooster feels that it is so tall that it doesn’t want to bump its head.
            Who can blame the Rooster. It has done whatever it wanted to do whenever it wanted to do all day long.
            .
            Once someone reaches such a stage, the tendency to question and provide answers for everything becomes compelling. In the past whatever he has said and done were accepted by everyone in sight. After all HE has to deal with the splinter in his brain too.
            Colony, occupation enslavement are demeaning to the psychology. (I was looking for a spot to insert double think but..)
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Selam kim hanna,

            This is the product of dia’s delusional state of mind and the way his mind was shaped over the years with the help of cult worshippers. Even today when the odds are against him and his regime, saying such myth, shows that he is not in the position to understand the reality, and he is still beyond anybody’s control. Don’t be surprised; soon he will say that asmara is the product of eritreans, because the laborers were eritreans. How else could he be unique, if he accepts italians were the masters.

          • MS

            Ahlan Abu SalaH
            TKifle has switched sides with Dr.Berhanu, that’s why he is not communicating with you. The next of relation (in relation to the topic) would be Gual Adem…
            Come on now, Saleh, IA will say anything that comes to his mind, and no body knows what his thought process will be in any given time. The man who knows IA very well is not speaking up at this time, for obvious reasons, and we will not press him to do so. Again, for obvious reasons. TewsaKitna hzbi ertra, aytlekmuna.

          • saay7

            Hala MaHmuday, Mr Kim, Berhe Yeman, and all:

            It’s all good now: I had to read the source, Haddas Ertra, which transcribed the IA-Haddas Ertra interview in its entirety.

            The splinter is gone. And no Adulisian explanation necessary. It all makes sense now and it’s consistent with the IA world view that the globe is run by proxy.

            Will have more to say on this later, unless I forget. But for now TKifle, Eyob can resume their sabbatical as their assessments were wrong then and are wrong now :). Sorry Mr Kim.

            Ramadan Kareem!

            saay

          • sara

            Dear Ms,
            since you brought the “style and substance” thing of PIA
            where is saays TBS thing that used to accompany his
            discussion on such instances.

          • Mez

            Dear Saay,

            My never answered question is: what happened to the Eritrean intellectuals and critical thinkers?

            They are the one who are giving the go ahead of such a flawed analysis by the President.

            He is inherently insulting every one who may have a stake on this country.

            Thanks

          • Selamat Saay7,

            Just to poke and provoke you so that the something gives is gonna give! And you my friend are the Straw / EitChakha iya, to “that breaks the camels back!” The Choice aged Frmajo if you will.

            No need to skin the cat at all. Spoiler alert..later…

            But you are the One Neo to tie the proverbial bell around the Cats Neck… A sort of Total Recall Arnold “wacha talking about Willis” Governor…

            It just occurred to me that perhaps the PFDJ invented the phenomena that is “Fake News.” The Ruthless to be very very feared Gov’t from scratch building was perhaps a choreographed falls narrative to instil Obedience by a rather rebellious and unruly, per Gashe Abi, population. You know, sort of stop that “Eritreans Never Kneel Down” nonsense Mantra. Oh yeah you will kneel down to . ” yesirH iyu izi tebahilu MeriHinet HgHaEie zHantSetSo….

            No, dude! I know I am like the comedian Rodney Dangerfield. “No Respect!” …but ’17! Lock stock and barely Teacher!!!

            Oh yeah… The Two Captains Gheteb and KndishiH Nitric will be under your command for Operation Liberate The Cat Liberty Bell noose tying ceremony.

            The Eri Youth… Can’t you hear the thunder of the stampeding youth of The awakened GitSAtSE Eritrean Youth!

            The Levey is broken Captain. It will not be trivial. This is Hype You Best Believe “me Baby Boy!!!”

            Stand on ’17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

            Ushering the Innovative Eritrean Era. Yes! Singapore!!!

            🙂 Ameley

            AnEritrean GitSAtSE

    • Paulos

      Selam Abraham,

      The established fact or general consensus among the Eritrean people is to express indignation on foot where Isaias is rest assured that nothing will stand in his way. He reigns with an absolute impunity as he grooms his son to own the next generation muntle of power. C’est la vie as the French would say it.

    • KBT

      Selamat kulukhum
      My president walk among his people freely unlike yours
      MELES CHENAWI used to hide behind bulletproof glass when he speak to the public
      Or surrender by many body gard ,
      Our have no one to fear than the only GOD

  • Paulos

    Selam Berhe,

    I agree with you. I don’t see why Hayat is getting punches left and right not so much for her to prove the authenticity of a quote but the punches are as in “we got you moment” or in an attempt to embarrass her. We are told that, a book about Wel-Wel is coming out soon and if one is curious about what Wel-Wel said or how many times he sneezed when he was alive, we will find out. I think we need to lay it off and give the lady a break.

    • MS

      Selam Paulos
      Hayat is a master of the ring, she could do it without any lame hand. It may not be an interesting story to you, but it is interesting enough to others to demand that she provide the source. We like Hayat, I personally really do, because she is upfront about her positions. I’m not demanding that Hayat change her position on ghedli or Eritrea; I’m just asking her to present the source she said she would present regarding a very controversial quote she alleging was made by WelWel. Does that look like shoving her left and right? Do the modest and moderate pleas from SGJ, IsmailAA, Emma, and Haile Zeru look a “we got you moment”? You seem to be edging on getting it both ways, but Hayat is telling you there is only one way- that welwel said those words- and she said she is going to prove it. We are awaiting for that moment, not the “we got you moment”.

      • Paulos

        Selam MS,

        Lame is when an intent is disguised as an honest request. We all are grown ups and we need to move on. Give the lady a break.

        • MS

          Selam Paulos
          I really have no interest indwelling in the matter. Hayat brought the quotation, and she insisted she had the source. Now, why don’t you her let take care of the matter? After all, adults don’t usually throw uncollaborated quotes; and if they see one, they pause and ask for substantiation. Am I wrong? amxa’ti baElKum and “let’s move on” behalti baElKum! And then, look at your reply to BerheY. He was critical of Hayat. You said you agreed with him and then you twisted it giving the impression that BerheY was defending Hayat. That does not look to me. You could make your point clear without appearing to protect Hayat as if she is a naïve and defenseless creature. She is capable of making her point. No one is going to force her if she does not want to reply to the requests, I know that. Anyway, brooK me’alti.

          • Paulos

            Brookh MaAlti to you too Sir.

  • Hi Peace,

    You must be kidding when you say “I do not support PFDJ nor I have any ill wish for Ethiopian people period”. Tell it to some school children, and not to awate forummers. Simply you are leaving the sinking ship called dia/pfdj. How do they call this? ‘የጎህ ኣጥብያ ጀግና’? This does not make you an opposition or a pro-eritrean, but a staunch hater of ethiopia and ethiopians.
    If there is anybody who wants the predicaments of eritreans to be forgotten, you are one of the known few. Continuously pointing your finger southwards, and looking for any problem big or small, past and present, so that eritreans do not pay attention to the failures of the regime, makes you dumber than me.
    A looming danger for Ethiopia exists only in the minds of you the ill wishers. Otherwise, although with small paces, ethiopia is moving forward, while your pfdj has left eritrea stagnant, and one can even say that it has moved her to the dark side of the moon. That is the reason dia said, go to the moon if you want elections.
    One of your biggest problems is ethiopians visiting this website, and they do not allow you to say freely any nonsense you may like about Ethiopia. Unfortunately for you, this is not eri tv, or a PFDJ website, where all lies about Ethiopia pass without any opposing voice. The administrators of awate.com have told you people for innumerable times that this is a free website, provided one keeps the guidelines, and you keep whining 24/7 about ethiopians visiting awate.com. Unsolicited advice, go to one of the PFDJ sites (you know them) and you will feel free from annoying ethiopians. If ethiopians go, you will be listening to the echos of your own voice, if that satisfies you,
    Do you remember the days you were infatuated with Arabs and you were expecting that they would storm the streets of Asmara and they would pour petrodollars into Eritrea’s economy? They are now in Addis, investing big time, and your friend calls this “buying ethiopian women”. My problem is Arab governments and their policies towards Ethiopia, and not Arabs in general.
    Finally, you better know that hatred, frustration, and anger are not good friends to live with. You can take it as a free advice from a priest. Make your choice, what sort of priest do you like, drunk or sober?

    • Peace!

      Hi Horizon,

      Let me try to address your emotional wreck in a way you can understand, and hopefully it will help you change your attitude and your preaching behavior as well.

      1 I already told you my position on PFDJ and my feeling on Ethiopia and its people. If you don’t buy it that’s fine I see no reason sweating to prove that as it is personal and irrelevant as well. In other words, I definitely won’t bother you if you tell me you don’t support your ኣሻንጉሊት ብርሃኑ ነጋ, although you have no other option, who is in a mission to deliver Assab for you. But keep in mind you have zero entitlement to the rest of the country, so speak for yourself.

      2 I have been reading you for quite sometime and apparently your only problem that driving you crazy is the loss of Assab, and for that, you constantly blame Eritrean people for fighting and seeking independence from blood suckers ኣፄዎች. Perhaps that’s the reason why your argument is too emotional and lacks basic logic.

      3 With regard to your chronic disease, obsession with Assab, Twenty-five years ago, Meles told to a bunch of Horizons if you want Assab here you have all you need መንገዱ ጨርቅ ያርግላቹ, but not surprisingly, ከፈሪ ኣዝማሪ ምን ይጠበቃል, of course, more ዘፈን, እስክስታ, empty ዘራፍ and መሸሸት ወደ Zimbabwe, Britain, Sudan, US…Keep in mind it is not like old days if you are waiting someone else to die for you.

      4 What ‘s even more painful, and really sad, is that you constantly use PFDJ to deceive yourself from facing the reality. The plain fact is the ruling regime TPLF and most Tigray people are among the top supporters of PFDJ, and they are more loyal and faithful to PFDJ than to ጎንደሬ with “NADA” leverage. And please don’t be naive you will not get a penny from whatever the ruling regime accumulating or from the economic progress your are preaching. Simply it just won’t be yours. I know this is too deep for a clueless guy like you who take fake news at face value with no sense of critique as long as it says negative about Arabs and Islam. Go ahead do some research and find out who is defending PFDJ and don’t let Arabophobia blind you and take you into your grave before you open your eyes.

      5 Finally, my unsolicited advise for you is you need to stop being emotional ኣካኪ ዘራፍ and try to grasp what’s unfolding because It seems Tigray is slowly becoming a buffer zone. That means at the end of the day Your beloved ኣሻንጉሊት ብርሃኑ ነጋ will end up taking you all the way into Gonder where you came from, not even Addis, and you won’t even get close to the border of Eritrea, let alone to Assab which will make your nightmare even worse.

      Have a nice weekend.

      Peace!

  • Haile Zeru

    Hayat

    The following statement : “Well, you have put up a difficult question to me. What I said WelWel said is true. I have learned about it from a good source (unimpeachable like Saay would say).”, that you wrote for Ismail does not cut it.
    The “good source” description is subjective. In fact if it is a “good source” it should be used as good evidence.
    Still waiting for evidence.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Haile Zeru,

      Hayat has learned something bad from Gheteb. Like, I have an info from a “close friend” or “trustful people”. How one could debate and make an educated rational argument with such sources and wanted to be taken as serious in a political engagement? Do not take them as serious people who came with unverifiable sources. It is just belabelow of a coffee table chat.

      Regards

      • Haile Zeru

        Hi Amanuel Hidrat,

        It could be bela-belew, but because she is too specific and not retracting it, let us hear her evidence.
        It could be the 03 type of calumny where the PFDJ agents spread lies by inventing a case that damages the good name of an individual. But we have no way to know other than the overall historical stature of WelWel and the sacrifice paid by the lowlanders especially at the time of Haile Selassie.

        • G. Gebru

          Dear Haile, selamat.
          The Derg regime in the elevens our of its existance was seen giving ranks and decorating medals.
          Today the Woyanes are heard talking about the battles of Gundet, Koffit in the western lowlands of Eritrea and other historical battles that defended Eritrea land and sea from foreign invaders be it the Turks, the Egyptians, the Italians and their Naibs in different parts of Eritrea and Tigray. The battles fields and the gallant ancestors, who fell in those battle fields, they betrayed and colaborated with disgrunteled societies to dismantel a great historical nation. They are doing this because thier situation today is not better than the last days of the Derg regime. The other thing that scared them is the great battle of Adwa. The recent country wide celebration was a moral defeat to them.
          If one looks at the Eritrean situation today looks very desparate also, in the senes that the accusation and counter accusation which is going on among Eritreans is one of despair and hopelessness which is a very bad symptom for a society that will leave it without any other choice but resign.
          Thanks.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi G.
            What a none sense. Your pile of sentences is not worth reading or answering. I stopped after a couple of lines.

          • G. Gebru

            Dear Haile, selamat.
            I am sorry, even though I know that some times truth is sour, I didn’t say it to antagonize anyone. But, due to my long exprience with this august website it was something that I expected, but, to be frank with it came from an unexpected quarter.
            Thanks.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam G. Gebru,
            .
            Truth in this Orwellian times is becoming more funnier by the day. I see your point. They seem to want to argue about the finer points of historical TRUTH.
            .
            Remember, when ‘Gehteb was presenting Adulisian nationality, the prior historical name, to the heir apparent of the current PFDJ’s Eritrea. A lot of people were reserved in their response. Some of them seem to like the narrative to sideline or excise Ethiopia completely out of the picture of Eritrean history.
            I was one of the vocal ones at that time telling everybody that the guy was making up history and story. Create out of thin air, as they say.
            I was embarrassed for that guy.
            But few Awatistas strongly criticized his history making project.
            .
            Now I see the heavy weights are out dissecting words and splitting hairs to defend their TRUTH.
            This phenomena has created a lot of blind spots in their perceptions. We have to continue to point it out in case the repetition creates an epiphany moment deep inside them at some point.
            What can one say but AGEB! AGEB!
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Hi G Gebru
            ምነው ባልጠፋ ሰው ብቻህን ታወራለህ?
            I like to share a joke with you about the last days of derg.
            After the failed coup, derg was in a rush to fill vacancies left by the Generals. This is how the joke goes
            ክፍት የራ ቦታ
            የሥራ መደብ — ጀነራል
            የትምህርት ደረጃ— ማንበብና መፃፍ የሚችል
            የሥራ ልምድ– ሁለት የጦርነት ፊልም በቪዲዮ ያየ
            ደመወዝ — በስምምነት
            There you have it. That is how derg filled the positions left by the senior generals.
            Don’t ask me how Eprdf filled the positions?
            ትውልዱ……

  • Haile Zeru

    Please Hayat,
    Back up your claim. I do not know Wel Wel in person, and did not read any biography about him. What I know is the short stories that every now and then are told by people. The history of the lowlanders we/I know it well enough. I lived through most of it.

    Now if you are saying Wel-Wel said ” ….. b’Eray metaHit 30 qirshi wagie’u, seb’ay metaHit gin 5 qirshi? /an ox in MetaHit worths 30Birr but a man from MetaHit does 5Birr/. That was the exact amount the king was known to be paying men to buy support from the lowlands.”
    Personal, intellectual and also I as a reader of this forum (awate.com) demands honesty from you and back your claim.

  • Mez

    Dear Moderator,

    How long it takes to approve my input (over 14 hours. ..still pending )

    Thanks

  • MS

    Selam All
    On Hayat Adem and her acutely selective discussion of Eritrean matters
    She accuses the writer of being “selective” but she never stops being selective in airing her views on Eritrean issues. NEVER. She is always selective. OK, I know she pronounced her views on ghedli and Eritrean identity and history (that it was a foreign invented identity…). Nothing new on her current selective attack on Eritrean liberation fighters and Eritrean ghedli in general. My point is that while she is known to be so selective in discussing Eritrean issues, she accuses the writer of being selective. In this case, she did not want to read the crimes Tareqe was committing, she did not want to read how Eritrean fighters were handed to the despicable King and were hung in the common market of Barentu. It is in the article but she is so selective, and so self-righteous, that she does not even employ common sense that readers might spot her cherry-picking easily and that in itself might hurt her credibility; which is not so good, to begin with, when it comes to Eritrean politics). Look how she tried to school Emma by repeating “your guys…did not give notice …” and by invoking the memory of the sleeping innocents who were awakened by the blasts of artillery…Oh, my, my…of course the Ethiopian army was not firing guns….it was only the ghedli…..see how selective she is….and speaking of brutality and barbarism, she is on record bashing ghedli…but never acknowledged the stories of the victims of Ona, Biskidira, Zban sinKe, Wekiduba, Adi, Ibrahim, Gimhot, Ailet…she does not even acknowledge the stories that the corpses of dead tegadelti told the inhabitants of Keren…She is defending a barbaric regime that feared the dead bodies of liberation fighters…what can you say to a person who defends a regime that hanged dead bodies in the markets of Keren, Aqordat, Barentu…. Well she has to feed the gullible…and going the extra mile is not that a big deal in her mind…she does it expertly. While the barbaric atrocities of Ethiopian air force in Massawa and hundreds of other places escape her memory, she is fixated on two young commando Eritreans who stormed an empty parking Ethiopian airline….so selective indeed….Let’s us summarize her selective discussion of history and current events…
    test#1: While she exaggerates ghedli crimes, she shies away from atrocities that were committed by past Ethiopian regimes. You find her irritated when past true stories of victims show up on this website.
    test#2: While she is a consummate student of the 3000 Abyssinian myth, she fails to read events that drove nationhood in the African continent, BTW, very recent ones whose effects are ravaging the continent. While she says nothing about why Ethiopian Somali were separated from the greater Somalia, while she fails to check why hundreds of ethnically and historically connected social groups ended up being separated into many political maps, she never refrain from regurgitating YG’s absurd historicity of why Eritrea should never fought for its right to be independent. She fails to even think critically why Eritrea ended up in the UN in the first place.
    test#3: When speaking of ghedli, she reminds us that it was costly…but she does not talk of why it was costly. It is always the ghedli that was firing, it was only the ghedli that was killing; it was always the ghedli that was wrecking the economies of both people….In her mind, there was not a king who gassed his people in Tigray; there was not a king who ran a country built on slavery system until the British who carried him back to power forced him to abolish it (at least on paper…); in here acutely selective mind, there was no brutal military dictator in Ethiopia who flooded the cities of Ethiopia and Eritrea with the blood of his victims….No, in her mindset, it was all the fault of ghedli. The bloody king did not exist, the bloody military dictator did not exist…(pure selectivity); and yes, in her selective mind, Wayane was not ghedli… it should be something else….in her mind, they must have adopted the name Wayane, which means ghedli, by mistake; they could not be ghedli….that is Hayat Adem folks…She finds grace and expertise in exercising her selective computation….
    test#4: While many of us believe the destiny of Eritreans is one and inseparable; while we speak in terms of Eritreans, Hayat repeats the same line of thought…to her Eritrea means the Christian part and it was not without a reason that SAAY once had drawn Hayat’s Eritrea (a virtually demarcated map…shall I say “kkkk”?). That takes me to the last test sticker
    test#5: Awate brought a historic picture showing Asfaha W/Michael..Hayat says it was brought to disgrace the Kebesa people. Wow!!! I’m sorry but this is not only absurd but more than that. It’s sickness. No body said only Asfaha bowed for the king. No one said only Asfaha (and in Hayat’s head, only the Kenessa bowed and licked the king’s shoes)…It was a royal protocol that Ethiopians and Eritreans and many other dignitaries did. What’s going on Hayat? Even the leader of the free world, President Obama was chastised for messing up a Royal Protocol when he met Queen Elizabeth!!! But you seem to be cherry-picking or rather selective on this point to stir discord among Eritreans. Let me tell you this: Eritreans have passed this lowliness long time. If your reference is the chaotic pal talks, you are just wrong. Eritreans have long decided that they will rise or fall together. Dear Hayat, it appears bashing ghedli and Eritreans has become a habitualized behavior that no evidence will convince you. That’s why the genteelness of IsmailAA does not raise any curiosity in you. That’s why I will always be blunt with you.

    • Selamat MaHmuday “The Best” SaliH,

      YG ain’t no G at all Dude!!! IndateQalesna long ago YG the beAll Ikey Gibri debut on asmariodotcom’s “dembe wufuyat” with his first article, I believed, regarding a Washington DC Accountant. YG was the Colenel Tareqe in the above in those days. It was a very targeted, heavily financed project. The Target Audience was the then new Eritrean migrants or post independence Eritrea’s Warsay and “Arkebe” generaton. Our elites, some knowingly some to put YGs FARCE fell for the trap. And Yes, many were dined and wined and then some. Observed FACT!!!

      Yours truly stop reading @point DC Accountant, despite being a “glorified accountant” myself. That was then this is NOW. Unfortunately, YGs FARCE has caused the Tragedy that frustrates you so much! Get ma DRIFT HOMIE?

      Will you be at the Rumble in the Jungle on May 30th? Our very own “Mike Tyson- The Titan!” Saay7 will be facing “Degas Thinker with the Gmbar Forman” AbdulHashem. Also, August Rush will be in your neck of the woods this year I hear. Got Your BLACK Glove on? Or should I send Rocky Rambo Flavored Ice Cream in Month of July?

      Stand on 17! Abu Aashera Weapon X Evolution.

      Dub72ueces!
      tSAtSE

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Gashe tSAtSE-gitSAtSE (wedi Hawey),
        You owe me answers to my questions on Mengisteab and the rest. I am keeping track of the interest rates for unanswered questions. This can bankrupt you if you keep on postponing delivery of the answers.
        Selam kun wedi Hawey.

        • MerHaba Aya Ismael AA,

          Only way to bankruptcy you should direct to the clever slty: X = YZ^W

          Here is to my response reaching you. I await eagerly still for your ever near perfection balanced guidance in your response.

          GitSAtSE

  • Kebessa

    Selam all,

    I follow the state media and the top news of the day is the passing of the Mufti of Eritrea, Sheik Alamin Osman Alamin at the age of 93. As the 1st Mufti of an independent Eritrea, he was a historic figure, just as was Patriarch Abune Philipos. I think this is an end of an era, as they say. Although we the citizens have no up-close access to the workings of any “institution” in Eritrea, from the outside, it looks like the Mufti played a role in keeping the harmony of the two religions intact. The Mufti was often seen sitting alongside the other 3 religious leaders on public occasions. Of course government choreography in this is not lost in me, but I like to think the Mufti was a uniter, a peace maker. Excuse my ignorance if that wasn’t the case. Hopefully those who know a thing or two about him will enlighten us. RIP Sheik Alamin!

    The other news was about how the government paid over 1 billion nakfa to parents of martyrs in Zoba Maekel alone in the past 13 years. First of all what is the significance of the number 13? Does it mean the payment started only in 2004, or is it because that’s the math that makes it over 1 billion? Secondly, the regime is fond of talking of the expenses it makes. What about the other half of the equation, the revenue? Why does it never disclose how much money it generates from the mining industry, or the 2% tax income, or port and other revenues? Is it because it invites scrutiny that the ‘expenses’ part doesn’t?

  • Idris Ali

    Dear Awate forum
    first I apologse from the Translator to do the task which I see is the wright of the translator to give little inf. about the author
    I would like to give some information about the author of the article as I knew him during my studying in Syria in the 80th
    Omar Alim Alsuri was born in Eritrea Massawa from a Sudanese teacher working in Eritrea during the British occupation of Eritrea and his mother is Eritrean from Massawa. One can say he is EriSudanese. He grew up in Sudan and he was engaged
    in all the Eritrean political activites .He was member of the ELF and was assigned in Biuret information center .Perhaps Wld . Amar and Dr . Yohans Zeraemariam were his comrades during this period of the Eritrean struggle.He is a very talented peot in arbic and I remember he wrote a lot of peoms dedicated for Eritrean revolution and its martyrs.
    I have read the previous article in Arabic and noticed some wrong information about what I know of Hallsilasse`s rout when the Italians occopied Ethiopia .This can be due to not verifiering what one hear from Another people.Anyway the purpose of the article was about the tragedy of Tafur who the Vitim of Tareke .Anyhow the article casts light in a very critical period of the eritrean strugle to lift the media siege imposed on it .

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Idris Ali,
      Sorry that I was not aware the author was Omar Alim. You are right that he was member of the ELF. He was editor of the ELF Arabic bulletin from Damascus before the ELF Foreign Information Center was opened in the Fall of 1975. He stayed managing the Eritrean News Agency from the same place. In that capacity, he cooperated with the ELF Foreign Information Center in Beirut. As a member of the team there I had the honor of working with him. But since then I had no idea where he was staying. Thanks for enlightening us.

      • Idris Ali

        I Think Omar Alim now are in KAS Riyad.

        • Idris Ali

          sorry is in riyad

  • Hayat Adem

    Hey Emma,
    I’m not that naive and I didn’t ask for a complete Eritrean history from a single person. But I should ask and expect a complete story from whoever is telling it. These are the things you know and were probably part of. Don’t you get curious when they are misrepresented? If someone is detailing the security activities of the Ethiopian hit man in the Sudan in the 1960s, then it is logical that all the actions, the reactions and counter actions thereof from the other side must also be reported as much and as truthfully. That makes it a complete story. Omitting from one or obliterating the other side to lend a selective magnanimity makes it incomplete and inadmissible.
    Have a look at this: “They [meaning: the ELF security] told him [meaning: Tarreqe, the Ethiopian hit man] through their messages that they are capable of reaching him at any time or place and that the only thing preventing them from initiation is their interest in the PEACE and SAFETY of the HOST country. He subsided.” (EMPHASIS MINE) You call this history!
    Is that really how you were operating? You did always send warning and messages to enemies for the sake of saving their lives, and for the sake of peace and safety of host countries? Is that so? If you really were that careful for the peace and safety of the Sudan, you must have been caring so much more for the peace and safety of your people, right?
    All I heard is enemies, spies, or their collaborators were mercilessly neutralized, assassinated, knifed, kidnapped and cruelly punished. Fanti’s decision to carry his boomerang knife while walking in the streets of Sudan may have to do with a different reality of a cautious life then. On other accounts, all I know is when our roofs in Asmara were being hit under the darkness by heavy artillery fired from the nearby escarpments surrounding the city. I still smile when some residents were content with the bombardments in the middle of their sleeps counting it as signs of news from ghedli. All I know is when passenger planes were being bombed in far away places like Karachi. All I know is when suspects collaborating with the Ethiopian regime were being targeted and murdered in their houses in front of their families by your men.
    Emma, please be-careful when you write responses in not implying what was not intended or expressed at all. I have benefited from reading this article and I have acknowledged that and the huge effort put in to make it available for those of us who are not well versed with the original language. I appreciated the translator and whatever I hinted thereof as a shortage has nothing to do with Burhan.

    • MS

      Selam Hayat
      Tareqe’s case: The writer told you how brazenly Tareqe murdered the Ethiopian opposition elements like Kebede, and how unceremoniously dumped their body in the open so that Eritrean liberation fighter could take a note of his brutality. You have not noticed that have you? Tareqe and his Imperial squad were not giving advance notices to their victims. Were they? Ethiopian army was not giving notices to Eritrean villagers. They were surrounding villages and torch them to ashes while murdering their inhabitants in a calculated and cold-blooded way. Awate.com has been bringing some of their stories and you have been on the defense of the criminal regimes of Ethiopia…and now you ask Emma, or rather mock him for giving you a polite answer!! The killing squad of Affagn that ravaged Eritrean cities did not give notice to their victims. Did they?
      Speaking of Tareqe and the chances he was given, I believe it. Because:
      1. The Eritreans knew who Tareqe was, and in the spy world all you want to know is the identity of the person. He was an Ethiopian security official, not a common spy you could get done with and het away with it. There is the possibility that a counterspy network was in place and you would not want to disrupt that by eliminating the head of the Ethiopian network; you never know how things will evolve from there. You always like to keep someone you know operating around. The other reason is what the writer stated which was that the Eritreans did not want to annoy the host country. Remember, this was early 60s, and the ERITREAN REVOLUTION (capitalized to annoy you) was finding a foothold in the chaotic Sudanese politics.
      2. The story of Karachi: It was an Ethiopian airline, it was empty of passengers, two young Eritreans stormed it while it was parking in the Tarmac. They made their announcement that they were Eritrean fighters, they spelled out why they were fighting and why they stormed the jetliner. They surrendered to authorities after negotiations, and thanks to the skills of the late Osman Saleh Sabe, they were later released. It was the most practiced way of making a political point during those days when the world looked the other way to the atrocities Haileselassie was inflicting on Eritreans. Ethiopians did it; PLO did it, etc. Now, would you blame Tareqe and his government for the atrocities they inflicted upon Eritreans without advance notices and warnings? Please?
      3. For your information: the MO of ghedli was to give a suspect three written warnings before you take him out. That rule stayed in place except may be in rare occasions were that was not possible and the target became of high value.
      Yeqenyeley.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hayat,

      It is an absurd to say that social history of particular society can and could be written as complete by an individual person or historian. And it is really sad to hear from a person of your caliber to utter such an absurd claim. History books of particular person or society are supplementary and complimentary to Each other. Hence we see secondary books are written with new discovery to add to the primary original books. Let alone the history of societies, the history of a prominent individual can be written complete by single person. Take an example the history of Abraham Lincoln, you will notice a tower of books written at different time by different authors at Ford”s theatre. You could go and visit it.

      Second, a question to you is, suppose a historian Ismail AA authored a book about the Eritrean people’s history. How do you identify the accounts whether he selectively wrote it, or it is a full account of personal of his knowledge he dig out with his limited resources? The problem with you and like you is, you assume any author of a book knows everything that others might know. Then you come with the attitude and perception all judgement and come in to conclusion that the author’s account is “selectively” written and becomes big deal for twisting and misrepresenting the authors. The challenge of author and his accountabilities from his readers is whether he is factual with what he has written in his book, and not for what he didn’t account in his book. You see Hayat flawliness is with every human being. Your flawed criticizem makes you human for you are not a complete as you expect from others. So be careful from claiming whatever is in your mind and understand that you have your own limits.

      Regards

      • Thomas

        Hi Amma,

        I am very sorry to say this but history books can be written or re-written and it is completely fine. However, when you debate history books it becomes problematic. Especially, we have situations where we have people questions if gedli was necessary because of the outcome we see in our country. With the situation we are in now, I don’t think many people are interested to debate history at this period of our life. Our pride and all the emotion that we used to carry about our fighting power is fading because the end result of our gedli so as our appetite to passionately discuss events went more than 50 years ago. I believe we will need time to heal from what is happening to us right now. The disaster is done on our country and people by the PFDJ is so much to the extent we cannot care to remember what was done over 70 years ago. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn’t know if there is a bright future of our country as we are hair splitting about events/said things over 70 years ago. The Issayas regime extending its stay in power by what was done in the past and getting credit for all nice things done in the past. So, when discussing Haileslassie are we not falling in their trap? They are destroying the nation liberated as we discuss on outdated matters here. What is important is what is happening today or the future because I believe what was done in the past was to get a better of today and the future. We are in a different era now and tomorrow is going to be much different than today. So, why not focus on having a better future than consuming much energy in trying to figure out what happened in the past. Of course, this is just my opinion.

      • Hayat Adem

        Emma hawey,
        You can be critical at my takes based on what i said but pay enough attention to what i said first. though not an impossibility, i didn’t say one person could write a detailed and complete history of a nation.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hayat,

          I did not misquote you. Here is what you have said: “But I should ask and expect a complete story from whoever is telling.” You see Hayat, I could not miss your tail to make you accountable to what you have said. I really pay attention to individuals like you as to what you could say.

          Regards

          • Hayat Adem

            Dearest Emma,
            In the quote you brought, I said “story”, not history. And my word selection was deliberate. A complete story is something we are all supposed to expect from even an averagely trained reporter.

          • Selamat Hayat Adem,

            Oh so now you are admitting “it is by design”, rule#3. ” My word selection is deliberate” she says. Rule#2=> Rule #1. Yes, tSAtSE is always RIGHT! Get some tutoring from iSEM. Yes, I still like you a lot!!! And there are consequences, I will dig up Point Blank archives.

            Dub72ueces
            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            Aha! Hayat, you know that I am not in tactical words game. You could do it with others who are fond of it.

            Now, the book was and is about the Eritrean revolution and the conspiracy against it at its early stage. The Eritrean revolution is our history even if you try to minimize it to simple story of hinq-hinqlitey. The Eritrean revolution is the history of the brave men and women of Eritrean people. So our history can not be reduced to kids story or to coffee table talks for passing time. It is a history of bravery and sacrifice for the noble cause of a society to create a nation of their own. In short the history of our revolution is the history of the new nation. It was a revolutionary history that liberated Eritrean and Ethiopian people. You have to stop of undermining and belittling our history.

            Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Brother Amunuel ,

            Whey don’t you two visit Jebena page and read my poet ..

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Are you expecting everyone to believe whatever is written by a former elf operative without asking if the story is told in its totality?
            What am I missing?

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Of course you are missing lots of things and will continue to remain confused unless you pause and start to see things from different stand point, not just ARAB ARAB. ወይ የኣፄ ልጅ:)

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            አፄውማ ከሰው አስበልጠዋችሁ ነበር!
            ክብረ ቢስ

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            ኤርትራዊን በደህና ቀን ተገላግለዋል go ahead and display that arrogance to Oromo people and other ጭቁን ኢትዮጽያዊ.

            የእናት ጡት መቁረጥ ደሞ ጀግንነት ተቆጠረ ወይ ጉድ እግዛኣብሔር ነው ያወጣን.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            አይ የጅል ነገር!
            ምኑን አመለጥከው? ኢሣያስ አንበሣው ቃጭልሽን ቆራርጦ ቁጭ አድርጎ አሸናሽ እንጂ!
            በይ ልመጅ ቁጭ ብሎ መሽናቱን:: ፖሪ ሞድም ያምርብሻል:: አይ ቁንጅና! አይ አቀማመጥ!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            So, does that justify your arrogance and the heinous crimes? This is what my good Ethiopian friend told me the other day: እነሱ መስሚያቸው ድፍን ነው! ሚኒሊክን የሚያወድስ ጨካን አረመነ ዝቃጭ ነው! ሲንት ንፁሃንን ጨፍጭፉ ጨርሰወል!

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            Your Ethiopian friend doesn’t know you.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Stick to the subject የHorizon ህመም contagious ነው እንዴ:) Well, the things is among many things, I and a good Ethiopian friend of mine agree that ኣፄዎች are responsible for the endless misery the beautiful country is going through, and what’s even more devastating is that the horrible legacy they left for their grand kids to defend and to promote without any shame. I am also really worried that the young generation do not seem to taking a-wise-up approach and work for better future, otherwise የተዲ ኣፍሮን የኣፄዎች ዘፈን ተረካቢ ሊሆን ማለት ነው that means more ጥላቻ and division. ከምሬ ነው በጣም በጣም ነው የሚያሳዝነው.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            ከምርህ ነው?
            ምነው ወዳጄ ኑሮ እንዲህ መረረችህ? ደርሶ አዛኝ መሳይ!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Obviously my personal feelings are not relevant for you to care for the future of your country and people. My point is why not just apologies to Oromos, to Tigrayans, to Eritreans, and to other የኣፄዎች ግዳይ የሆኑ and move on for better future? If this doesn’t cross your mind, it is good to stop contaminating the young generation with venomous and full of hate and resentment history, don’t you think so?

            Peace!

          • Hi Peace,
            How could you be so blind to what is happening in eritrea, and you are obsessed with ethiopia, past and present? You are wasting your time trying to create animosity between ethiopian social group, but you are not going to succeed. You could not hurt ethiopia yourselves, and you regime supporters are calling on oromos and tigrayans to rise up against their own country. When are you going to open you eyes and see the misery of your own people? Why don’t you worry about young eritreans who are living in refugee camps, or are dying in the four corners of the world, instead of worrying about young ethiopians? If a song makes you worry so much, it shows the difficult situation your pfdj is in.

          • Peace!

            Hi Horizon,

            Pending….

            Peace!

          • Peace!

            Hi Horizon,

            Pending…

            Peace!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Peace,

            The history and role of the Oromos is a bit complex, it is not as one sided and as simple as you think.

          • Peace!

            Hi SK,

            I didn’t say anything about Oromo problems specifically, I don’t know where did you get that. I am just sharing my thoughts on how to move forward so the whole region can enjoy peace and harmony. And just in case you missed weeding out PFDJ is among crucial prerequisites.

            Peace!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Peace,

            It seems that you have forgotten you said: “My point is why not just apologies (sic) [apologize] to Oromos …”

            If you want to “weed out” the PFDJ, I am willing to contribute for your one-way ticket to Eritrea.

          • Peace!

            Hi SK,

            So does that imply by any stretch that Oromo problem is simple?

            As for the money you would like to contribute, sorry most PFDJ supporters I know live on welfare and food stamps, I just don’t want to be accused of money laundering. Be smart even if it is a free money:)

            Peace!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Peace,

            You need to learn Oromos’ history.

            Most PFDJ supporters living on welfare? Any evidence?

            But still we can manage a whip round for your one-way ticket.

          • Peace!

            Selam SK,

            Go ahead and inquire documents from embassy used for making 2% payments. But I am only saying is “too risky” not that I am interested on some else’s private life.

            Peace!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Peace,

            “too risky”?

            When was the last time you made your 2% contribution?

          • Zara Yaqob

            Ay Peace,

            Teddy doesn’t sing about ጥላቻ. You should check out his recent interview. Here is one beautiful quote from it.
            “…አብረን ባደረግናቸው ብዙ መልካም ነገሮች ላይ መስማማት ስንችል፣ አብረን ባጎደልናቸው ነገሮች ዝምብለን ጊዜ ማጥፋት ጠቃሚ አይደለም።”
            On the contrary, it’s people like you who try to sow hatred and division among us.

            Cheers

          • Peace!

            Hi Zara,

            If you are not up to the obvious challenge, it is totally fine, but please don’t tell me praising ኣፄዎች who are responsible for heinous crimes or even genocide is not an act of spreading hate. The reaction to tedy’s new album is out for everyone to see.

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Sir,

            Not only Teddy.. who ? on those two nations is willing to see the dark !
            We had enough ! now it is to people to people time … the solution.. is in our hand ..

            KS..

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            አይ ምስኪን ወንድሜ
            የት ይደርሳል የተባልከው የፒያሳ ጮሌ ቂል ሆነህ ቀረህ:: አለመታደል!

            እንደሰራ አይገድል!!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            እንደዛ ከሆነማ ተሸከሙት ኣሀያ ምንድነው አንዴ ስራው.

            Peace!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Good one! Here is my up vote:)

            Peace!

          • Selamat Gashe Abi,

            A little Unagi Sushi. Hai Wakari Mashta!

            Or perhaps, Rastafarian Kaya. Feeling Irie at bar tbletSe.
            Do you now that Eritrea tbletSe is the negaation of Eritrea twdem and ItyoPia twdem?

            Aura Gundan

        • Your Excellency Queen Hayat Adem,

          I curtsy and bow my head before your court: iSEM and the Ant your Royal Loyal Servants Knights with Shining Armor at your service:

          Third Aphorism of Mathematician Georg Cantor, [Set Theiory] is from the Holy Book Corinthians:
          “That which has been hidden will be revealed.”

          I will take the message to Amde “FAB5”. He is to join us in the Finance Talks- Read as “Corruption” in the next article.
          The quotations was imposed by RULE as well as your coronation self denial at the level Elite 2^4.

          The Marriage Allegory is 60^4. Or as Wedi Shawel would put it: “Sussa Alata! Sussa Alata! Sussa Alata!” iSEM Sussa Alata! 4.

          Stand on 17! Abu Aashera Weopon X Evolution.

          Dub72ueces
          tSAtSE

  • Selamat iSEM,

    HinQuilitey Hiniti69.3. A little Scorsese cameo there. Nice. Wokiduba2!

    2ueces
    tSAtSE

  • Mez

    Dear Omar,

    An interesting compilation. As other commentators indicated, the author could had divided his work into at least a dozen of separate news reports; that would have given us a more clear and deep understanding of the events of that time.

    But still it give some sketchy insight on the geopolitical dynamics of two or three decades, since the end of 1950-ies. It had shown that the Italian gave up their colony AFTER a fight, with the Sudanese army contribution; the Italian were forced to stop any connection to their colonies decisively. The Strategic and Geopolitical irrelevance of Italian (to a lesser extent British), and the clear replacement of them by the US-American political influence can easily be inferred.
    British had less interest in doing anything significant in Eritrea; the UN and security Council decisions brought a) a free parliamentary election in Eritrea, b) federated union with a feudalistic and un-elected government (inherently incompatible) Ethiopia; followed by a political discordance among people especially in Eritrea was articulated.

    It was an interesting time; where the global shift of power (from the semi-single polar), British, to a bipolar was shown in full display; also it lends itself to the conclusion that the then new global power USA, with its military allies was approaching the problem openly by securing a military base in Eritrean territory, and the other global power acted indirectly and implicitly (in the USSR case via Egypt and Syria). Egypt was in a geopolitical game with our region since eternity and the Syrian were just newcomers from no where to this game.

    It is clearly indicated that the chief political architect of that time in Syria, the Syrian “Michael Aflaq, the founder of the pan-Arab ‘Baath Socialist Party’” was a Christian orthodox; and that he had no hesitation to embrace and help our liberation movements, under the umbrella-ideology of Baath party. The key geopolitical calculation of that time seems to be based on Arab against Israel. And everything else was re-framed to fit that.

    It was interesting to learn the offer by Mengistu Neway to General Tedla on the “independence of Eritrea” for supporting the removal of the king; the subsequent murdering of the General due to increased political discordance within a short time frame is informative.

    Interesting would be to know if the then political movements in Eritrea, that time, resisted the wrestling of their genuine Eritrean political/ social movement; and if they had put up any fight against the subjugation of their quest for more political openness into an appendix of the Israeli-Arab scramble and part of endless great regional game.

    It is not hard to observe that the deep engagement of the Sudanese personalities into the Ethiopia-Eritrean affairs reverberated into, and complicated the Sudanese internal body politics more and more over time, hence the independence of South Sudan.

    The deliberate channeling of military gears from greater Middle east to Eritrea via the Sudan attracted the Israelite to be a staunch supporters of the South Sudanese independence movement, hence a regional geopolitical reciprocal to the Syrian-Baath geopolitical move.

    The write up had also indicated that the early Ethiopian military engagement in Eritrea was was driven by responsive than preventive action policy. The narration seems to be timely sequential, natural, authentic, and first-hand observation based. The time sequence is a good connector of the narration.

    Thanks

    • Selamat Mez,

      Excellent summary for. You have earned a grade of D. You have gone over the less than 2Pages summary called for.
      Perhaps if you WinZip your last comment and repost, it will appear as less than 2lines Bar Code @TbletSe’s in Thursdays Market! 😉

      Stand on 17! Abu Aashera Weapon Dub00X Evolution. The Sequel.Rule#2

      2ueces
      tSAtSE

      • Mez

        Dear Gitsatse,

        ይድረሥ ለክቡር መምህር ግሣፄ
        ይበል ብለናል፣
        የታላቅ ኣስተማሪ ምክር ተቀብለናል፣
        በእውነቱ የተሠጠን “ዲ” ግን አንሶናል።

        Thanks

        • Selamat Mez,

          A+!

          ZeyQuediH temeharay HimaQue bTigreuoch Quanqa demo ybalal.

          Doub00X7
          2ueces
          tSAtSE

          • Mez

            Dear Gitsatse,

            Now I am happy….

        • Paulos

          Selam Mez,

          If the article was taken from a diary of a traveler, it could be of an interest to any interested reader simply because the style and even the gist may not be conventional. In this particular article however, I don’t see anything new that can add to the literature on the historiography of Eritrea. Simply because, the making of modern Eritrea including the Federal experience has been exhausted by historians and political scientists alike where Ruth Iyob (read: The Eritrean Struggle For Independence) and Tekheste Negash (read: Eritrea and Ethiopia: The Federal Experience) to mention but a few come to mind. And as for the shifting geopolitics and the imperatives of Eritrea as a “pawn”, that has well been studied extensively as in “Eritrea: A Pawn In World Politics” by Oqbazgi Yohannes.

          • Mez

            Good Day Paulos,

            Yes I am aware of the writings you mentioned, and much more research works on Eritrea over the past 100+ years. That is fact.

            What I did here is just (over 95%) summerized and rearranged the narration of the author, and around 5% I added what looks to me linkage of events. And i approached it from an elevated the angle of view–from bigger perspective of that time.

            I hope I captured around 50% (that is why i got first “D” by Memhir Gitsatse) the information the author gave out in his writing–regarding Eritrea-Ethiopia conflict.

            Thanks

          • MerHaba Mez,

            Would you Pablo also please put your heads together and address the stochastic nature of the daily or continuous compounding of contingent events to add value on the already voluminous literature.
            I recall thoughts during lemon ice tea siesta thoughts, these specific 2 words: “tragic” or “farce”. Now, what I mean here is, what do we make of our navigation of Karl Marx’s manifesto quotation regarding history’s rinsing and repeating of the wise Hippo’s cooling at Tekeze River? And Yes for some folks the Bridge for Sale does come with a River. 😉

            Dear Mez, this is for HgSEBA. For extra credit we shall consider the Rhinoceros dash observed during an Ozzy’s walkabout or travels on gravel roads TO Asmara, TK his initials.

            Dub0072ueces

          • Mez

            Good Day, መምህር ግሣፄ

            I don’t remember (statistically), that K. Marx used the two words you mentioned in his The Capital volumes.

            His variables were: the worker (the majority & the exploited), the capitalist (the minority & the exploiter), the profit (the exploited and drained asset to the capitalist account), the industrial revolution (with all the drum and trumpet).

            Coming fast forward, his grandsons are steering their wheel in three different lanes of the Jena Autobahn (where he used to walk-around while on his PHD).

            Those grand-kids, who understood well what meant and blended it with the reality are now (this time GDP wise #2) on their way to lead the world on an unlimited speed-lane drive.
            The other group of grand kids had excelled in military since second to none, but missed to reform their society, and are now navigating their autobahn with limited speed.
            Those grandkids who are scattered across the world are not so visible in their transformative performance but,on-and-off, show up on the least speed of the autobahn.

            I don’t observe any other branching of K. Marks, my teacher & friend–do you?

            Thanks

          • Mez

            Good Day, መምህር ግሣፄ

            I don’t remember (statistically), that K. Max used the two words you mentioned in his The Capital volumes.

            His variables were: the worker (the majority & the exploited), the capitalist (the minority & the exploiter), the profit (the exploited and drained asset to the capitalist account), the industrial revolution (with all the drum and trumpet).

            Coming fast forward, his grandsons (school of thought) are steering their wheel in three different lanes of the Jena Autobahn (where he used to walk-around while on his PHD).

            Those grandkids–who understood well what meant and blended it with the reality they have– are now (this time GDP wise #2) on their way to lead the world on an unlimited speed-lane drive.
            The other group of grandkids had excelled in military since second to none, but missed to reform their society, and are now navigating their Autobahn with limited speed.
            Those grandkids who are scattered across the world are not so visible in their transformative performance but,on-and-off, show up on the least speed of the autobahn.

            I don’t observe any other branching of K. Marks, my teacher & friend–do you?

            Thanks

          • Good Day to you Memhir Mez,

            As you fast forward allow me to rewind simultaneously. We need not of course rewind as far back as – infinity or +infinity, respectively, though our convergence point would be inevitably certain. It would prove rather inefficiently a very long journey. [Catalyst* Bailey Deifiendorf Hall Gheteb, Lord of The Rings^**-+]

            Certainly in YOUR Favor:

            00) “Alephs measures the sizes of Sets; Infinity, on the other hand, is commonly defined as an extreme limit of the real number line (applied to a function or sequence that “diverges to infinity” or “increases without bound.”) or an extreme point of the extended real number line.”

            My rewind is to the the Year 1899. Georg Cantor. Drawing a big circle, a triangle, a square.. , then redraw another circle with an additional circle inside. From the center draw infinite lines… Georg Cantor asked if he can add 1+1 then proceeded to add infinity + infinity. From the the same town f where Martin Luther taught Reformation, he worked on the theory and proved “Beyond infinity and a whole hierarchy of different infinities. He was born in St. Peters, Russia, but still qualifies as a relevant and good fit for my rewind point for your:

            “Coming fast forward, his grandsons (school of thought) are steering their wheel in three different lanes of the Jena Autobahn (where he used to walk-around while on his PHD)^****.

            So lets take lets take a look at the 2Vs, Two variables that are Majority and Exploited- M and E:
            Though, we can draw in Graviton the Physicist to utilize E=MC^2 to inspect the following within M for Masses and E for Elite C for speed[third lane for Jena Autobound] 2 Unbound/unlimited increase of speed or efficiency. You will observe we have now doubled, and then more, the Variables by raising it to the POWER of 2, WXYZ –> X = YZ^W.

            You have traction now I sense. My economic plan towards (with 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64..) appreciates and agree with your astute observations leading to GDP #2. Increasing the Whole Aarkobkobay, Coconut, /Lemon Merange Pie, as Opposed to competing to increase your-the individual’s porition/slice, of pie the {fundamental (1+1)..infinity + infinity} may seem the same as “branchint to Karl M’s”. (We shall both expound on this extensively, inclusive of Georg Cantor)

            For now:

            However I will take you to the precise point of our convergence by answering your question:

            “I don’t observe any other branching of K. Marks, my teacher & friend–do you?”

            In the E=MC^2, utilizing substitution method of integration, Masses/Elitist as well as the commutative M=EC^2, THE FARCE and Tragedy of saint Energy PaBlo and hypocrisy I point you to what Paul has said a few comments above:

            “Karl Marx famously said, “History repeats as tragedy, then as farce.”

            Question to you and PaBlo: Has Energy been Delivered? Was the Saint Pablo the Jirba on Ahya back deliverer of Energy?

            Dear Mez, though we shall expound on this, fire away with questions should you need any clarification to the above? [The D was for the Third lane letter in phDDD****.

            Stand on ’17! Abu AaShera Weapon X Evolution.

            Dub72ueces
            tSAtSE

            PS: Fortune cookie read: The Person who said “good things come to those who wait” is probably still waiting. This is regarding your “pending”.. Oh by the way have you seen BODYLESS KindishiH?

          • Paulos

            Selamat Tsatse,

            You should see me laughing. That’s awwwwesome! Stick with mathematics instead for it is the language of science.

          • Amico Pablo,

            Duwe V: Via! Dove via. Andiamo padajo Godena Harrinet, Campo Eshtato, Via TreDicci.

            What is the significance of over a Billion Nakfa, Kebesa asked?

            And I will add: Over a Billion Nakfa valued at Today’s Nakfa or 2015’s Nakfa?

            Start with the Loopholes within the tax code (2% if you like…) where FASB88 Mergers & Acquisitions for the reevaluation of “since 2004” Kebesa. Gains and Losses. If only Amde was here for Sonet N• 29.

            Can you Bablo shed some light on the above? You outsider you 😉 Victories Win Win.
            2Vs
            Dub72ueces
            tSAtSE

          • Mez

            Greetings, መምህር ግሣፄ

            I admire your love of mathematics–the language of science, now we (in this forum) try to bring it to arts.

            Let me try; based on the Jena line of thinking, our country, including in the south and west ones, was in a BIG zero economic growth since the old testament-ዘመን. In good rainy years harvest was good–probably 2 or 3%–economic growth; in the bad dry years they eat and finish what they had surplus. Of course the Kings, and Kings of Kings had to be served–who ever they were. The science of health was absent; the survival of newborn was more of random and uncertain.

            Hence up until the Italian came–we had millennia of ZERO economic growth; we stayed where the first settlers were–for all practical purposes.

            The roads, the railways, the mobility, together with the opportunity to make money “with wide margins” parachuted from Italy to the land called Eritrea, in the years until 1950.

            Creation of wealth; better survival of children ; foreign–primarily Italian–capital inflow were in the mix. The colonial Eritrea economy grew at times 20%, or even more; the country in the south was in a complete sleep back then.

            The era until 1940-ies was an ACCELERATED economic growth, never seen before–caveat, no political freedom & Italy lost global war somewhere else.

            To secure the political freedom took 30 years of fight; with unknown economic growth; and with the seed of “secret economy” under the radar by libation movements.

            Now we are here trying to bring the Colonial Eritrea economic boom back; with the people as the owner of their country; albeit bumpy– to transform the land of base fighters to the land of abundance and start-ups.

            We entered the era of racing against the “time machine”– and at the same time trying to win over the population growth by wide margin.

            The effort to steal away the scientific reasoning and unbiased reflection capability of the y’s in the ypfdj–via the borrowed foreign citizenship legality—instead of one’s own “may will” have prolong us to stay on the ramp of the Autobahn.

            I noticed lately, the Panda is lending money on both sides of Mereb; the cool panda may,in a reasonable time, cool down the overheating challenge in Badme and help us make it livable.

            I see here: cool mind, with the ratio of 10/30/60 (PIE) is needed to enter the correct Autobahn-lane.

            ክቡር መምህር ግሣፄ, race with time machine is complex and open-ended; affecting variables–are in the hundreds, if not more.

            Thanks

  • MS

    Selam Burhan Ali
    Burhan Ya Burhan…the best of the best of the best….Burhan (proof, in Arabic), (light: in in Tigrigna, Amharic, with berhet in Tigrayet); all indicate light…luminosity/brightness….Good name. And true to your name, you have done a heck of a job in summarizing/translating Ustaz Tayfur’s work….
    The original writer, a Sudanese, assigned Sudan to take the main character, and I think it deserves it. While I commend the people of Sudan in hosting Eritrean and Ethiopian refugees, Sudanese politicians have for the most part profited from the business of peddling and merchandizing the conflict. Through the years, Sudanese politicians had used Eritrean Revolution as a political card. However, Eritrean revolution kept its independent political line, and early on, became more powerful than their might, changing their calculations. I met a prominent Sudanese journalist in 1985. He was returning from the frontlines. He told me “If not for you [Eritreans], Ethiopia would have swallowed us alive long time ago.” He said he covered wars and conflicts in the world, but could not find that fierce confrontation and massive deployment of forces running across the country. The guy also worked for a Kuwaiti Newspaper and was later transferred to BBC Arabic (around Eritrean independence). Sudan was a Mecca of spies, full of intrigues…in its soil, Eritreans spied on each other, murdered each other…chased each other; Eritrean spies danced the spy-tango with their Ethiopian counter-parts…Ethiopian opposition organizations entered the fray…it was a deep jungle…
    Emperor Haileselassie is showered with many accolades for reasons only the writer could spell out…the writer tells us that the Emperor escaped to Sudan fleeing Italian invasion, “[f]rom there, the Emperor went to address and try actuating the League of Nations…” Well, it is well recorded that Emperor Haile Selassie’s escape route took him through Somali Land, Jerusalem, Gibraltar, ending up in the UK where he made his residence for about 5 years. He returned to Ethiopian border (soil) in 1941 through Sudan, when the British commanded East African Corp was advancing well into Ethiopia. His populist appeals and his remotely controlled reign and his international appeals could not be controlled, but he was not one of those patriots who were fighting fascist Italy. He was a coward Monarchy who wanted to save his skin. While Ethiopian patriots were fascist Italy in the jungles, his children were going top the best schools in the UK, and he was living in Abbey Hotel.
    Generally, this is a historic account of one man as he saw and understood it as he was writing those accounts. It’s a novel…a fascinating…moving…reading.

  • Peace!

    Hi Thomas,

    Few days ago you wished you were Ethiopian, and now claimong real Eritrean; make your mind, will you?

    If you are a real Eritrean why don’t you man up and challenge የኣፄ ልጆች who are distorting history and demonizing victims? Or, if you have no clue or stand, it is better for you to read and learn, don’t just jump out of blue on people’s back and force yourself making empty comments. Do you even read the articles and comments before you comment?

    Peace!

    • Thomas

      Hi Peace,

      Tune down your voice, I see you are hurting yourself. I am a nice guy, I must help you. This part of your question from above made me to laugh, “Do you even read the articles and comments before you comment?”:) Sorry, you seem you are hurt, let me now give a break today:)

      • Peace!

        Hi Thomas,

        Good. I respect that if that’s your genuine opinion, except stop trying to impose that onto others.

        Now, since you have nothing meaningful to offer please stop replying to my post. ጥንብ!

        Peace!

        • Thomas

          Hi Peace,

          I don’t to waste my time with afaf: Amharic: JIL. So, I decided to give you a break:)

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            With all due respect I am not ነፍጠኛ ኣማራ, thank you!

            Peace!

  • Brhan

    Salam Alikum Ustaz Burhan Ali
    Thank you very much for this work. I enjoyed reading it.

    • Selamat Brhan,

      How are you reading Omer Ali as Burhan?

      Or are we in agreement?

      This is Younis Ali Salim all over again it seems….

      The critique is based on facts. Gziyou aykonen gnn tebahile alekhu. Araboshto arbitrary goal sort to speak. I accept mt.grim as I do My. Adal.

      Stand on 17! Abu Aashera Weapon X Evolution.

      2ueces
      tSAtSE

  • Awate,

    How is this consistent with the pictures chosen?

    “The posting of this article inis necessitated by the fact that these days the same feint and malice that poisoned the Eritrean national movement’s environment long time ago, is now, rearing its ugly head and trying again to stir racial, religious and regional divergence for the purpose of derailing the struggle for justice and democracy, and steer it away from its true and honorable objective, into a different delusional struggle, featuring internecine feuds and self annihilation.”

    The chicanery of timing your post. Bring back the Pillar and lets speak FINANCE!!!

    Eli Manning for President

    GIANTS!

    • mt girm

      Selam GitSatSe,
      This is the armament IA needs nowdays.
      Wrong place at the wrong time!!

  • sara

    awate,
    I read the article and found it very informative about the past Ethiopia and the emperors game play to kill Eritreans aspiration by conspiring with certain Sudanese elite. its also interesting how Ethiopia deploy its intelligence services in Sudan, which i feel and see it to this day.
    i wonder why some of the commentators are angry about the story.

    • Selamat sara,

      As for me, if I sound angr:

      Inie Wusheteam alwedm. Wushetam creative writer who is only holding very tight to the blubber fat of the Whale? What could they possibly grow WITHOUT GROWING THE PIE? So what IF the rest of the world is utilizing negative attraction for customers. For some thing that is of NATIONAL SECURITY Consequence, Neither Today, Tomorrow or a THOUSAND YEARS FROM NOW will YOU CRIPPLED FOUNDATION be able to climb the MOUNTAIN!!!

      Know who BUILT AWATE and have INTEGRITY. Wushetam mar aywedim wendmie Ahya…

      Just recall you Standing Rock!!! comment of long ago. YES I would like THE WHOLE ENCHILADA PLEASE!!!

      La enchilada y BICICLETA!!! Siempre CON MI PUEBLO BARKA ABAY AMIGOS!!

      tSAtSE

    • Peace!

      Hi Sara,

      Well, what would expect from angry ጎንደሬ with no intelligence and failed miserably to run a country for three thousands of years other than killing innocent people and rapping donkeys (ኣልማዝ ባለ ጭራ) It is good that finally the true Ethiopian people are saying NO to ኣዝማሪ!!!!

      In the mean time the MINE MINE campaign against Oromo, Tigray, Eritrea…everywhere they go continues: this what I wrote to Abi the other day:

      “ከአንኮበርና ከጎንደር ተነስተው በየቦታው እየለመኑ አራቸውን እያንጠበጠቡ መጥተው ነው ዛሬ አዲስ አበባ የኛ ናት ለማለት የበቁት ሲባል ስምታሀል? በቃ ያደርክበት ቦታ ሁሉ የኔ ነው!”

      Peace!

      • Hi Peace,
        Let me ask you, is sara a woman or a man? If she is a woman, as I believed all the time, this is not the way to talk in front of a lady. If we are speaking of a man, then I apologize.

        • Peace!

          Hi Horizon,

          I am sorry, these are facts therefore can’t be changed regardless with whom you are talking. I thought you are a man of substance why don’t you focus on failures and crimes I raised than, as usual, personal tone? እረ ተው:)

          Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            I seriously think the Ethiopians should have you back. You are hurting yourself so much. Don’t have a real life over wherever you living now? Look, no one has appetite to talk about Ethiopia, however you are deep into it, what is your problem, Men? I know they can help you if you are that desperate!

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            I am just reacting to the outrageous comments if you are paying any attention, or unless your ancestors involved in the heinous crime. I think it is time to heal and show some respect to the victims, not bragging (ኣብ ጥራይ ከብድኻ) and distorting.

            It is evident that trying to take advantage of “Eritrea in a weak position” is only helping PFDJ and leaving opposition groups divided. Do you have anything meaningful to say other than your obsession with my personal life?

            Peace!

  • Hello Gashe Abi,

    Inie Geberie Negne ina Cha Belo NeAA weSHH…

    What did they DRIVE!!! Sika HADiD banuum ANA! WolaHI!!!!

    tSAtSE

  • Hayat Adem

    Thanks Burhan,
    Even a bit lengthy, and at times bumpy, it revisits those mysterious times of the 50s and 60s with an incredibly interesting account. I enjoyed reading it. I must be appreciative of the effort put by you to help us read and enjoy it here. Thank you and stay blessed.
    There were lots of new accounts. The Emperor’s frequenting a lot to Sudan, Syria’s role in Eritrean struggle, The Abebe Bikila’s element, Tarreqe’s hits (which party did that guy killed by him belong to, EPRP?) etc.
    Though may not be necessarily the deficiency of the translator, the story seems to suffer from a selective bias and memory. Example, there were a much worse rumpant and notorious actions of the fadayans dispatched by EplfElf agents in the streets and buildings of the Sudan. While those actions and counteractions were part of the same story, we are not being told about them. We are even told how the Eritreans were self restrained and only tried to scare Tarreqe for the sake of not disturbing the peace in the Sudan Really? The guys who didn’t care to bomb a passenger airlines craft in Karachi? (Notice Yoty’s sarcasm).
    Also, the figure of Asfaha kissing the king’s feet seems a selective depiction to signal a shame and humiliate the Kebessa collaborators as if they were the only sellout kissers. I think that pic represents not the ehole truth but a bad taste. Every official then within his kingdom, including everyone from the lowlands of Eritrea, was obliged and supposed to do that whenever facing the king. You remember WalWal reprimanding words on the metaHiteans: b’Eray metaHit 30 qirshi wagie’u, seb’ay metaHit gin 5 qirshi? /an ox in MetaHit worths 30Birr but a man from MetaHit does 5Birr/. That was the exact amount the king was known to be paying men to buy support from the lowlands.

    • Selamat Hayat Adem,

      Tell me what is wrong with:

      Stand up on your crippled legs if you can reach a summit!
      Swing your imbecilic sword if you can hunt a star!
      ….O’ you, herd of sheep
      “Have you seen a disabled palm defile a nation’s history?”

      From a poem by “Ali Abdulqayoom”

      Stand on 17! Abu AAshera Weapon X Evolution.

      AmEritrean GitSAtSE Azilo40 Agnieya!100 Kishafa40 CPB

      2ueces
      tSAtSE

    • Selamat Hayat Adem,

      I suppose I can edit it to read “Sellout Kissers.” You know diddly girl. Earned or inherited? go read the incomplete account on Hedgait blog. Consider the entirety of that narration… Ask iSEM to help you with the math.

      tSAtSE

      • Hayat Adem

        hi Tsatse,
        3 rules to know and observe:
        1) tSatse is always right
        2) if tSatse is wrong, see rule #1.
        3) if it is too hard to tell whether tSatse is right or wrong, it is all by design.

    • Paulos

      Selam Hayatina,

      I don’t see any bad taste as you put in posting the picture of Asfaha Weldemikael throwing himself onto the ground to kiss the Emperor’s feet. There is nothing wrong with that. I think we should critique events by putting in to consideration the times or the era the events took place. Dej. Asfaha’s actions are a testament of a man a dignified man I might add with an at most reverence to and for a King. The King or any other King for that matter symbolizes the very essence of a nation in an equal footing with a flag. I believe the person in Asfaha should be comended for staying true to himself to the end when everybody else was dancing to the tune and wave that was about to sail Eritrea onto the unknown. It seems time which is the hidden factor is about to absolve him given the reversal of fortunes sweeping right under our eyes. May his soul rest in peace!

      • Pablo Pablo!!!

        There are some folks that have been getting away by degrading ordinary Tigrigna folks culture. If they choose the above picture to depict Tigrigna and speak and with the other orifice speak of “some other folks
        are endangering our Nation by utilizing hatred and what have you..” If you can’t effect Eritrean and Ethiopian democratization THEN PLEASE GET OUT OF THE WAY. You flinched on a hand shake. You would’nt even cross the bridge!!!

        If depicting that picture as a negative Eritrean “Sellout Kissers”, then what is to be said about SAMURAIS and Ninjas? Wushetam ina leiba abrew neww bhodachew yfenedu!!!

        I can see now why an Ahia would attack a human. Why Ustaz Alamin AbduleTif sang Lam aykebdann iyyu Qerna. — Abi, Tigrigna le Amarigna ende weledo ahhun aweQ. That was THEN this IS now!!! Next time do NOT flash money right away!!! Ahya mesekem maychillo samuni ale. Kazanchis negenagnal!

        “Time is a wonderful teacher, but it kills all its pupils.”
        Do something HONORABLE with the Gift of Life. — No, I do not hate you.”

        Stand on 17! Abu AAshera Weapon X Evolution.

        V-17
        2ueces
        AmEritrean GitSAtSE Azilo40 Agnieya40 Kshafa40!

      • Abi

        Paul
        I know you are commenting from an undisclosed location under a fortified bunker just like Mike Levine(?).
        Please be careful . I don’t want to lose you.

        • Paulos

          Abisensation,

          That’s funny. Thanks for the laugh ma bro.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            We are talking in retrospect and how things have turned out, I think his believe and actions to “unconditional union” and abolishing the federation has caused so much misery and so much hardship to the Eritrean and Ethiopian people.

            He was an interpreter for the Italians during the occupation of Ethiopia and was decorated by Mussolini himself as cavalier for services he rendered and continue to render.

            Even though there is no big deal for kissing the feet of the king, he wanted to show his unresolved loyalty to the king and in the process he caused so much agony and hardship to the Eritrean people.

            It’s really painful that the Ethiopian FM and diplomat Akiluluu HabteWold who kept a principled position of upholding the federation did not prevail.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            Asfaha Weldemikael was no a saint. He was a shrewd and ruthless politician with no illusion about the highly charged cut-throat milieu of the King’s court. As the King played the key players of the day against each other, Asfaha screwed both Tedlas perhaps not only for selfish reasons but out of conviction as well. When I say conviction, what I have in mind is that, the key Eritrean players of the day had to face and answer serious questions: Is there something called Eritrean identity that can be seen in isolation from the historiography of Ethiopia-proper? Moreover, given the complex and colonial experience of Eritrea, can Eritrea stand on its own? Asfaha was convinced that, it was for the best interest of Eritreans that they remain with in the enclave of Ethiopia proper. When the theoretical framework seemed compelling among other alternatives, the players particularly the King and his technocrats lacked political acumen to handle the Eritrean issue with at most care. As you have aptly put it, perhaps Federal arrangement could have worked but sadly, abrogation was a cardinal sin that is still haunting the then power players to their graves.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            You said:

            “Asfaha was convinced that, it was for the best interest of Eritreans that they remain with in the enclave of Ethiopia proper. When the theoretical framework seemed compelling among other alternatives, the players particularly the King and his technocrats lacked political acumen to handle the Eritrean issue with at most care.”

            In the meeting the King had with close his close government officials with regards to the future of the federation, from a review of a book Zewde Retta by Professor Negussay Ayele

            “The foreign minister stated eloquently and unambiguously was that inasmuch as Ethiopia has—however reluctantly—accepted the UN mandated federation and the Emperor has endorsed such acceptance by ratifying its legal instruments, it was incumbent on the Ethiopian government to observe it strictly. If the need arises for the federation to be dismantled, that can only be done legally “through majority vote in a referendum monitored by United Nations observers.”

            It’s the combination of Degiat Asfaha and Keshi Dimepetros, who pushed for dismantling the federation. Asfaha was Chief executive and at the same time Endrasie of the King.

            Pushing one political agenda is one thing, but breaking the agreement of the federation where he has no mandate and caused the follow up is another thing. This I think is the lack of political experience Eritreans have at that time and still today that is still haunting us.

            In the interview, Asfaha feelings were hurt when he did not recieve congratulations message from Aklilu on dismantling the federation.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            Karl Marx once famously said, “History repeats first as tragedy, then as farce.” The question we need to be asking is, are Eritreans bold enough to face and answer difficult and yet decisive questions. Where is Eritrea heading to? What are the best and viable options? 26 years and counting obviously something is seriously wrong. Is it lack of democratic institutions or far deeper than the naked eye can see? As much as Asfaha Weldemikael and his Eritrean contemporaries faced difficult questions, once again Eritrea is at crossroads where it is to be seen whether the choices Eritreans are to make to be tragedies or a farce. Time will tell.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            Well I don’t think we should lose hope. 26 years is a long time, when looking at one life time but not a lot of time compared to the many nations in the neighborhood.

            Saay i think said, is it ok to have a country (a corrupt African country) like many others and move on.

            I look around in our region (Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somalia, Ruwanda,Uganda, Brundi) and Kenya to some degree and may be with the the exception of Tanzania, are not much better when it comes to democratic institutions. Same accross the red sea..

            Eritrea has established it’s identity and it has it’s place at the world stage. I think we can refine it, improve it once we settle to be just ordinary country.

            Berhe

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Paulos, I’m very very very anxious as to the day after the now 71 year old DIA, and I’m sure most Eritreans if not all are. The perplexing fact is those Eritreans who equate Eritrea with Isayas are acting as if there is no day after him; while those Eritreans who wish to see the day after the tyrant are almost not doing anything to hasten it. Yes, something, is seriously and gravely wrong with us Eritreans, esp. after we fell into our current ‘vegetative state’.

          • Abi

            Hi Abraham
            The serious and grave mistake is you fell for the independence hoax.
            You see, it is easy.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Abi, that is your version of events and for obvious reasons; how I see it is not different from what happened in the aftermath of the fall of the HS regime in Ethiopia proper. It is about broken promises and a derailed jouney.

          • Abi

            Hi Abraham
            Absolutely Wrong!!!!!!
            Derg came to power because of the power vacuum created after the fall of the King.
            Yours is totally different. It was in the making for 30 years.
            Surprised? Not me.
            Everything is planned. You were busy dancing while I was praying for IA’s death. The writing was on the wall. You must have missed it.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Abi, the 30 years were elapsed to fight against an entrenched enemy with huge material and human resources as well as billions of dollars of foreign aid at its disposal. A certain dark chapter of the 30 years struggle was also spent on Eritreans killing each other. Anyways, after realising our independence in 1993 through a legal, free and fair, internationally endorsed referendum, we embarked on building a state literally from the scratch. We had started in a hopeful and much better way, preparing our constitution, buliding socio-economic sectors brick by brick, as well as setting up the rudimentary infrastructure of our nation, which was in shambles after a 30+ year of devastating war.. We were even hailed as being amongst the beacon of hope in the African continent. However, a few years down the road, our freedom, our aspirations and hopes, and our overall nation-building drive was stolen and hijacked from us by a narrow clique led by DIA. The rest is history.

          • Paulos

            Selam Abraham,

            I think the chronic vegetative state can snap out if Ethiopia changes courses as in pulling out of Bad’me where the supposed missing link to the stuck-in can finally move on. When I say move on, what I have in mind is that, if Ethiopia pulls out from Bad’me which I think it will, it will be a completely ball of game where it is not that Isaias will be cornered but it will be a high time where the competence of the Opposition will come to a test.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            “if Ethiopia pulls out from Bad’me which I think it will”

            You do understand the transfer of badme will be the last nail on the coffin to the current Ethiopian gov’t?

          • Paulos

            Selam Graviton,

            Ethiopia doesn’t have any other choice but to pull out of Bad’me. The leaders in Ethiopia know well that Isaias can not mount an attack given the morale of his army as the latter is pouring in to Ethiopia practically every month. More over, if Bad’me was a strategic location from a military point of view, maybe the argument could hold water but it is not where it is symbolic not more than a pivot that shows Ethiopia’s military superiority. I would like to know what the last nail on the coffin you alluded to is should Ethiopia pulls out. Elaborate if you could.

          • mt girm

            Selam Paulos,
            Just recently, the Egyptian court rejected the transfer of two Islands to the Saudis even though the Gov. wanted to do it
            If TPLF goes against the parliament, that’s when ‘last nail on the coffin’ comes to play.
            If they get ‘lasting Peace’ in return, i think handing over Badume will be acceptable to the Ethiopian people.

          • Paulos

            Selam mt grim,

            I think you need a baby-step education on what TPLF is. It is a political party even though it still claims to be a Front. EPRDF is an umbrella organization which encompasses other political parties including TPLF. Now, before EPRDF presents the change of policy on Eritrea to the parliament, it would debate about it with in the party (EPRDF). If the case to pullout of Bad’me prevails on head counts, it will be debated in the parliament. Of course, if it gets enough votes, the motion will pass, if not, either the status quo remains or find some other alternatives. The stuff that you said about the nail, hummer and coffin finds its place say in መደበር.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paulos,
            You sound like an insider here. Are you the AG that Gheteb talks about? 🙂

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            Insider? Far from it. That is the standard procedure of any parliamentary system as opposed to say, “I will make him an offer he can’t refuse” sort of thing. And who is AG?

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paulos,
            It was a simple joke. If it didn’t make you laugh, I am the looser. Do I need to explain who AG is? No you will see it in the next Gheteb’s and Hayat’s exchange; hopefully! 🙂

          • mt girm

            Selam Paulos.
            you are all over the place!!

          • Haile S,

            He is! I guarantee it!!! And could prove it without a shred of a doubt. “An offer he can’t refuse!” PAalleeaaaasssse!!!

            Dub72ueces
            tSAtSE

          • Abraham H.

            Selamat Paulos. I’ve a simple equation, which I believe is true in today’s Ethiopia and which many critics of the current Ethiopian gov claim to be the case.
            TPLF=EPRDF=Ethiopian Parliament
            How far do you believe this to be true?

          • Paulos

            Selam Abraham,

            If the Danish took them almost 500 years to get to Denmark, at least the leaders in Ethiopia are trying. Trying is better than not trying and not trying is better than refusing the remains of a dead person a proper burial in his home country.

          • Abraham H.

            Selamat Paulos, my comment was not meant as compare and contrast with the Eritrean situation vis-a-vis Ethiopia, as I’m well aware it is beyond compare. I was trying to look at at it purely from the Ethiopian perspective. I personally hope the current discussions between the EPRDF gov and the Ethiopian opposition groups would be fruitful and pave the way towards a much fairer political and economic power sharing among the Ethiopians.

          • mt girm

            Selam Paulos,
            The Ethiopian people are taking baby- steps to remove TPLF aka EPRDF!
            Your ‘ESAPA- ESAPAQO’ argument will lead you to zimbabwe

          • Paulos

            Keep talking brother, keep talking.

          • mt girm

            Selam Paulos

            ‘EPLF -PFDJ’, i might add!

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            That’s where trouble brews man, all the seats are taken by a single party(EPRDF) and whatever they decide might not have public base. The funny part is you trying to paint an image of a parliament where the “uncertainty principle” rules.

          • Selam Paulos,

            There are certain facts we should have in mind when we discuss the badme problem.

            1) Ethiopia was the victim of aggression by the regime in asmara (the claim commission has taken position on this).
            2) Tens of thousands of young ethiopians were sacrifised to bring back the status quo ante.

            Therefore, the least ethiopia can demand to get out of badme is a guaranteed and permanent peace from the eritrean side. The present regime in eritrea should not be expected to guarantee peace. Packing and evacuating badme unconditionally is an insult to the memory of those who paid with their lives, and it will be equivalent to giving a precious award to dia, despite the fact that he was the aggressor. Even if the committee granted badme to eritrea, because our rulers were foolish enough to sit with the aggressor for arbitration, at least now he should not be allowed to celebrate his victory with fanfare, kebero and ululation, and he is showered with rose petals as he walks down godana harnet triumphantly. He will have another date to celebrate every year, if this happens.

            Ethiopia can easily reach an agreement with the future government of eritrea that stands for democracy, peace and good neighborliness, and not with the present regime in eritrea.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Horizon, as you might have heard it, the Ethiopian PM Hailemariam Dessalegn had signalised a ‘new policy’ towards Eritrea a few months ago. Have you, or any other Ethiopian any idea as to what that policy might be? Is there any process going on within the TPLF/EPRDF/Ethiopian Parliament regarding this issue, and if yes, how could the Ethiopian gov expect a possible normalization of relations as long as DIA has the absolute decision making power in Eritrea? I don’t think DIA would accept any initiative from Ethiopia, as he is very content with the status quo that has given him the extra cover to perpetuate his authoratarian rule.

          • Selam Abraham H.

            There was something to that effect that has been mentioned on this site some months ago, but nobody seemed to know anything notable about it.
            The main question is why would anyone of them need a new policy, normalization or initiative at this very moment? From what I can understand, nothing special seems to have happened to force the two parties to come to the negotiation table. Only that if there were an outside power, for e.g. the eu, one might expect some sort of initiation for talk, because the eu is hard hit by the refugee crisis, and it may believe that the no-war-no-peace situation between the two countries that has brought the open-ended military service and the exodus of young eritreans, may somehow be controlled if peace comes between the two countries. I do not think that outside the small circle of people at the top anybody really knows anything. It is easier to say that we should not expect much.

          • Paulos

            Selam Horizon,

            Leaders are expected to assess situations critically when the stakes are high as highly charged emotions can potentially blur clarity in thinking. The fundamental question that needs to be addressed should be seen with in the modalities of Ethiopia’s long term objectives and interests. It’s primary objective is to transform the nation onto a middle income nation with in the near future where its political objectives is with in the enclaves of a developmental state in tandem with ethnic federalism. Ethiopia with an ambitious agenda and challenging political routes, handing over Badime to Isaias takes the backseat to say the least. Moreover, it seems, the leaders in Ethiopia have long ago established the fact that, the need to remove Isaias solely rests on the interest of the Eritrean people. If handing over Badime to Isaias helps him to win political points and as you put it with a fanfare on Godena Harnet, it will still remain to be a fanfare the next day as well where Eritreans will still be under the cruel hand of the regime regardless. That is precisely the reason that, how Isaias feels about it remains to be irrelevant.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            Sorry buddy i don’t like stating the obvious. If you haven’t figured this out by now, perhaps you should revise your knowledge of Ethiopian politics. Why do you think Shabo insists on the handover of badme before the two nations could ever think of peace? you will find the explanation to the “final nail…” in your answer.

          • Selamat PaBlo,

            ShirHi GurHi Shirkinett, TTefiowo aykonenn…Fecheww Wedi Tukhul.

            Road to Denmark. You Fukuyamma you!

            Dub72ueces
            tSAtSE

          • Selamat Abraham H,

            Will Rule of 72 bring about the coronation of Abraham Afeworki? You know ShaEbia Meley AA Ameley? (wouldn’t it be a nice evolution upgrade for discus sound effect?) I settle for a wink 😉

            Fishekhta Ameley! AA

            DUB00100012uecesX

          • Abraham H.

            Selamat Enkuray Tsatse, I don’t know about the rule of 72, but may be that is what DIA has in mind when he doesn’t allow a second-in command or a vice-president.-to have his son succeed him to the throne of Shaebiya. Anyway, probably, the new DIA constitution that has been in the works for the last few years, as well as the ‘merha hintsats’/roadmap, that we’ve been told has been finalized in January’17, have something to say about the issue.

          • AH,

            71 Yr old IA will be 71+1=72, after having your conversation with Abi and how prayer for the death of Isayas, google Ruleof72 so you can make wise investment in the future.

            I am in the choirs you dOuudouuu. Don’t waste your ink. There is no excuse for meaningless diatribes. You have more intelligence than that I thought. Should I surmise that you are in need of courage and heart and a dire need to visit the Wizard of Oz?
            Respect is earned! And frankly as of now tSAtSE HAS absolutely ZERO RESPECT FOR YOU. Go find another donkey to ride.

            (Thinking out loud to self: Gosh!!! I HATE IDIOTS!)

            Stand on 17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

            Dub72ueces
            tSAtSE

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Tsatse, sometimes I wonder whether tsatse is not a bit crazy/leqawis or what he is smoking, etc, Dude, I never asked for your respect, anyhow as former ‘yEPLF’ member and probably currently yPFDJ member what could you say about the so-called constitution and the finalized merha hintsats by your DIA?

          • Selam Paulos,

            “Where is eritrea heading to? What are the best and viable options?”
            I really doubt if anybody knows. The old generation is part of the problem and not the solution, the new generation is either running away from the problem, or they are settled in foreign countries, and eritrean politics is much more useful to massage their ego, rather than to find a solution.
            Up to now self reliance has failed, and of course, it had no chance to succeed. In a globalized world, turning one’s back on it, and choosing isolationism cannot be the way forward.
            The ethiopian factor cannot be part of the eritrean solution, because genuine cooperation is in nobody’s mind. On the contrary, antagonism and mutual annihilation is the only agenda that exists. Any cooperation is much more rhetorical than a serious scenario, when forwarded either by the opposition or any other group.
            Other regional factors, such as arab nations, most likely would not want to involve themselves. If they do, they could not give a permanent solution, or similar to the ethiopian factor, they could bring much more controversies.
            When minor drawbacks become major problems, it is a sign of not knowing the priorities. The regime made badme a weight that does not allow eritrea to move forward. Do you think that the regime does not know it? Simply, it does not care, and it serves its purpose.
            When a regime rules a country without a constitution, it is because it does not respect its citizens and it sees the country as its fiefdom. When a small country has such a big standing army, it means that the regime does not care for the economy. There is no, for e.g. five years economic plan, or any other long term plan.
            The crime of the ethiopian government is the absence of true democracy. In eritrea, on the the other hand, there is a problem on all counts (democracy, economy, etc). Therefore, it is difficult to know which way eritrea is heading, and what should be her priorities. Tragedy and farce are both in the hands of eritreans to avoid them, and make the right choice for the sake of the people,
            (Let us wait for a better answer from eritreans themselves).

          • Paulos

            Selam Horizon,

            This may sound ironic but the only segment of the Eritrean society which seems to have a clear understanding as to where the nation is heading to are the people who are supporting the regime otherwise known as PFDJ. Precisely because, they figured at least to their rationale that, Eritrea can not exist without Isaias Afwerki. In their world, lack of freedom or lack of basic political institutions can be tolerated indefinitely if need be than losing Eritrea as a nation for good. As such, holding on to Isaias guarantees the existence of the nation as a nation and in a macabre psychology, it gives them some sort of consolation as if they are keeping the promises of the martyred intact. Of course, the question still lingers, how did Eritrea get here? Again, the question loses its relevance within those who support the regime and gets convoluted and muddied within those who think they have all the answers as in throwing the blame on external factors among other things.

          • Thomas

            Hi Paulos,

            I have a question on the part of your comment that goes with, “This may sound ironic but the only segment of the Eritrean society which seems to have a clear understanding as to where the nation is heading to are the people who are supporting the regime otherwise known as PFDJ. Precisely because, they figured at least to their rationale that, Eritrea can not exist without Isaias Afwerki.” My question is:

            1) Could the supporters of Issayas has any concern for Eritrea/the nation other than regardless being loyal to him?
            2) I am not trying to become Meshrefet.net on you, but who are these supporters and what was their contributions during derg time? Where they devoted supporters of gedli at the gedli time or where they available to be reached at the time of badme time? When did they nationalistic sentiment come to life?
            3) Referring to question# 2, can we change the minds of the Issayasists?

          • Paulos

            Selam Thomas,

            I don’t think the question as to what was their previous life say when Dergue was in power is any relevant. They are the new actors when the caricature of EPLF otherwise known as PFDJ came to life. They can only imagine a worse off Eritrea sans Isaias hence the intense need to ignore the harsh reality. One can only win them back, when a charismatic figure arises that can dismantle a 50 years old psychological block.

          • Thomas

            Hi Paulos,

            I am trying to see if they are just loyal to the current regime or for their love of the nation. If you think that they are under the impression that Eritrea = Issayas, how come those Issayas supporters living in diaspora fleeing Eritrea as we speak or having their families run faraway from Eritrea/Issayas? I would have liked to know the pre-independence contribution of these people because that was the testing time to show nationalism. Eritreans were fighting foreign invaders and almost everyone was pretty made about the tragic events we had to go through. It is commonsense to say gedli was supported by 99.8 of the Eritrean people. The logic is there were no Eritrea back then and almost all Eritreans had their minds and spirits with gedli and if these supporters were no where to be found then, how could they care more about Eritrea now? As such, is it the Issayas regime they happen to love or is it because their love of Eritrea is immense? Ok, let’s say all supporters of Issayas are Eritreans and all opponents of Issayas are also Eritreans, what is preventing these people from discussing about Eritrea with Issayas out of the equation? This is with the assumption that everyone has equal love for the nation/Eritrea.

          • MerHaba Toma’s (Anta Dermas!)

            I am up voting you here. Do not hitch hike on the tigreto truck towards Denmark. On a 500 Years long drive, only your teeth will reach the destination. Carbon dating and DNA will or the scientific tools then will determine for certain that The Body Less Teeth belong to Tomas, GuOy’s patron @ Bar Jima AND NOT Tomas Jefferson patron of Cheers Bar in Boston.

            Bar tBletSe Tea Party be cognizant of 😉

            Make A Stand on 17! Abu AAshera Weapon X Evolution.

            Dub0072ueces
            tSAtSE

          • Thomas

            Hi GitSatSe,

            Make up your mind, men. If you want to understand your writing, write me when your “lekawis” is gone. Use formal English grammar and your sentences need to start with subject + Verb + Object or you could also write in passive voice. At your age, you seem to play video games or watch lost of scientific movie. I have my brothers 6 years son and I can only relate you to this kid. I also remember when I was a teen. Me and my friends used to have our own tigrigna and we created those so that we can converse about something that is not a concern to the guy/s who were around us. For example, “isu” instead of “ane”, like “nesu kejeliyeka eu mes zi al’gefif”

          • Selamat Paul,

            With all due respect to your extremely high scholarship and rational reasoning abilities, you are One Hundred Percent WRONG with your catchy phrase description of the PFDJ/IA Eritrean supporters. Disguised as based on sound analysis, it is a sinister tool in service for either the North or South of the Mereb Elites or both(by virtue of Plato’s Marriage allegory.)
            No, I will not expound here and now. Much like K. Marx’s Das Capital??? intended for Germany’s industrialized working class as the launching pad for his Global Human Economic Theory instead manifested itself by exploding against the Czar of Russia, the [Catalyst] calls for Eritrean Youth to Stand on17 has forced all the veterans lifelong Eritrean and Ethiopian History narrators to a rather fortiuotous, AN UNAVOIDABLE EVOKED/FORCED Stand on 17!!! due to their deeply buried CALL OF DUTY., And yes, the very vehement Stand off or stare down pitting recent alliances of convenience loose partnerships, new alignments and surprise veteran Eritreans finding their TRUE VOICE to take Lead and loudly voice the from ERITREANs PERSPECTIVE History Narrative, what will inevitably follow SOON is Eritrean Youth, the Future History Makers Decisive STAND ON 17! Yes, this blessed Spring of 2017! The UNPLUGGED TRAIL BLAZERS OF ALL SEWRANA CONTEMPORARIES is feeding/loading Eritrean Youth the pertinent data that for too long was sweapt under the rug, a major contributor for post independence Eritreans CAUSE OF CONFUSION AND DISARRAY witnessed in their haphazardly disenfranchised scattering accross the globe.

            1.) Yes, observing Mr. Berhe Yeman taking his rightful place by emerging as THE TOP LEADERSHIP of Eritrean and Ethiopian Cause by liberating HIMSELF THE INDIVIDUAL from the yokes and chicanary by those WHO HAVE ONLY POSSESED TRIVIAL USELESS KNOWLEDGE which they have CHAMPIONED AS MORE VALUABLE over the not so “book warmish” good fellows. Amo for all Eri Youth’s decisive and immenent Stand on 17!

            2.) Observing in the first half of’17, the scramble for MASSIVE DAMAGE CONTROL by the skilled artisans and strategy spearheads, the tradesmen of the recent history era and their mad dash to plug millions of the holes they have created this past Month: Further Priceless ammunition for ALL ERITREAN YOUTH’S IMMINENT AND DECISIVE STAND ON 17!
            3.) Observing the silence due to their morbid fear of shame of those loud mouths megaphones of divisive narrative s of propaganda against the Eritrean for the purposes enriching their greedy insatiable appetites to fill their deep pockets: More Amo for Eritrean Youth ’17!
            4.) Observing by the wise Ernest hearted true Eritrean Leaders of the past At. Cent, announcing and taking decisive steps to reset WITH THEIR CURRENT CORRECTIVE MEASURES AND AND for MORE ERNEST STEPPING UP OF ERITREAN WISDOM WITHIN THE OLD GUARD following suit each and every single Day to rippen The Eritrean Spring of ’17! YES! IT IS!!! MORE AMO FOR ALL ERITREAN YOUTH imminent AND DECISIVE STAND ON ’17!

            Observing a great scholar like Paulo’s, who through the MULTI-FRANCHISE BLOCKBUSTER DEALS, in dark smokey rooms by the Elite’s inherited CAPITAL, was this his current command post to steer with his skilled acrobatics as the LAST goal line meek guard stand that IS infact akin to gmbar Eila BerEiD in the last Days of THE HISTORIC VICTORIOUS END TO ERITREA’S ARMED REBELLION. My friend Paul and all YOUR ADHERENTS! IT IS HIGH TIME TO AWAKE AND AKNOWLEDGE FENKIL HAS HAPPENED in March Madness! Accept and facilitate the PEACEFUL HAND OVER OF POWER TO THE PEOPLE AND JUSTICE TO THE DENIED.
            Yes DENIAL is not the the flowing waters from Ethiopia and into Egypt through the Sudan that is PURPORTED AS CONTENTIOUS AND VOLATILE. Paulo’s, acknowledge that “The Cat is out of” Schrödinger’s Box and can not be skinned. Avert the disaster that is boiling to skin alive THE BALD HEADS AND SLIMY DERMIS few who have entrapped themselves. Your next VITAL DEAL TO REALISE IN LESS THAN THREE DAYS IS THE UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE OF ALL ERITREAN PRISONERS OF CONSCIOUS and the Just Resolutions under Rule of Law of all CRIMES for the sake ofALL THE ERITREAN
            YOUTH TO HARVEST THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR AND SACRIFICES with their sweat and blood. Anything less on May 24th, 2017, YES, you KNOW IT! MORE EXPLOSIVE FIERY AMMUNITION FOR THE IMMINENT AND DECIDING Eritrean Stand on 17! The announcement of for all Eritreans Freedom on All of Eritrea’s Land Independence Day May 24th First, with the logistics of the Peaceful Transition to peoples power, with accordingly incentive and punishment based negotiations to take place immediately thereafter culminating the HISTORIC RECONVENING OF ERITREA’s Representative Government durring The August Rush Month ushering BaHti Meskerem Tarikhawitt Eilet for Eritreans and Ethiopians!!!

            Not with my knowledge and without mandate was the 64Bit Coins by Inheritance Elite Fab5 agreed too.

            I will spare you the Plato’s Cave Allegory and how This not so humble AmEritrean GitSAtSE was the one freed from the chained position facing SHADOWS AS REALITY, then returned to liberate the others changed — BUT ONLY TO BE RIDICULED AND REJECTED BY THOSE FEARFUL, to their
            fatal detriment, with their antics and labeling the Ant as DEMENTED!
            You know better the Scholar and Gentleman that you STILL.TRULY ARE.

            Gashe Abi, Sehay, Horizon Graviton et all, your full court press is misplaced though useful and will be addressed fully. You too are the chained since birth in a cave made to accept Shadows as reality. HIM Haile Selassie I, the great African Visionary will soon vindicated. First Step for all our Ethiopian Bretheren is to accept THE TRUE VALUE FOR LIBERTY for all, Eritreans and Ethiopians alike, that commenced on September 1st, 1961 by the Iconic Hamid Idris Awate ending with the Victorious Month of May, 1991 for both sovereign Asmara and Sovereign New^2 Flower Addis Abeba.

            Catalyst sharing only the Choma Meat of the Narrative imperative here at this forum. For the Bones that is THE PILLARS with the savoring Marrow of Life ahead for Horn if Africa Nations … The TRUE GIANTS will easily catch it IN THE NEW CHANNEL!

            Make A Stand on ’17! For Justice!

            Abu Aashera Weapon X Evolution.
            Escape velocity and warp speed launching – anticipate May 24th, 2017! Beta..BITS and BITS.

            Enquan le Hulachin addresen To This Promising Dawn of a New Era. Happy May 24th to all Ethiopians and Eritreans.
            2Vs Day for 2 Bases brotherly people.

            Dub72ueces
            AmEritrean GitSAtSE

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Paul,
        No, I thought the intention of the pic insertion was not out of the need to substantiate a story. Otherwise, i’m aware that it was a practice of the day for and by everyone.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Hayat,

      Having logged in a bit late and reading this thread by one of the excellent writers who grace this web site and forum, I rushed myself to peruse what our keen commenters have already written. A late comer can’t help being selective in reading the posts.

      One of the commenters I try not to jump over is Hayat Adem. I read your comments above with your familiar, bold and combative mindset in mind due to one of the points you have picked to respond to, namely, the picture of Asfaha W/Mikael kissing the shoes of the former emperor until I came to Wel Wel.

      A history student’s curiosity made me stop and flash back to memory. But it did not help me to recall what you wrote from among many anecdotes I read or been told on Wel Wel starting from the times of my tender age. For example, I was told that Wel Wel survived seven attempts on his life before he was able to sneak out from the country. But, I now know that after all that was in fact not the case. He left with official exit visa and pass port.

      So, what I want to ask you with utmost respect is to elaborate a bit further on the story you have mentioned: Wel Wel “reprimanding… metaHiteans ( with a measure of disappointment and authoritative demeanor the meaning of the word reprimand connotes) to the extent that those lowlanders of his time were actually less worth than the oxen they owned, and that the king bought their loyalty so negligible to worth just 5 birr. I think history tell us quite the opposite. The king and his country had actually lost their cause for failing to buy the loyalty of the lowlanders. You and me know they took the banner of raising political and armed resistance. This point has by now been admitted by aware Ethiopian elite, and in fact the raison d’être for Ambassador Zewde Retta writing Ye Eritra Guday was by and large telling posterity in Ethiopia why the marriage between Eritrea and Ethiopia ended up in violent divorse.

      Such an anecdote seemed to me deserved to be put in context because Eritreans are nearly unanimous on their
      respect for Wel Wel and that truth or otherwise of such anecdotes is important to his legacy. Risking an assumption that you would re-read those comments with fact focused mindset rather than combative mindset I mentioned earlier, I assume you would realize the seriousness and dimension those word carry. No owner is cheaper than an animal he owns. Even taken liberally as passing analogy would not fit in the personality and stature of Weldeab Woldemariam.

      Regards

      • MS

        Ahlan Ustaz IsmailAA
        Thanks for gracing us with well balanced and clearheaded inputs. I’m always grateful to your presence. I’m rewarded generously every time I jump the cursor to your comment, I try not to miss any of them. Please keep up. Your comments never falter to air the self-disciplined and curious reader that you are…

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Ustaz Mahmoud,
          I am sincerely humbled by your very generous compliment. You and me who have done our modest bit in winning back our country do not have anything more to give the young generation except trying to act as bridge builders. Our only aspiration is for the young to be aware of their mission and get united to preserve what their fathers and mothers had achieved for them through blood and sweat.
          Thanks again.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Ismail AA,
            .
            With all due respect, I have a difficult question to ask you.
            First, I have to tell you that I had to weigh the pros and cons of asking the question before I went ahead with it. For me it is a foundational question to which I never got a complete satisfactory answer anywhere.
            .
            You stated in the answer to MS post above, that “……to preserve what their fathers and mothers had achieved for them through blood and sweat.”
            .
            I see what you mean in general terms. Sir, the sons and daughters suffered unimaginable hardships during and after the achievement. Now, the grandsons and granddaughters are going through the same horrible conditions. Who knows what comes next.
            .
            The question: What did the fathers and the mothers achieve for their offspring and their offspring?
            .
            The question is not elegant or timid. For me it is the foundational question that I never got a reasonable and satisfactory answer. Y.G came close to answer it, I think. (We made a mistake but we have to go forward.)
            The usual political answer of freedom, independence, dignity, history, federation etc..never seem to answer the question directly to your specific statement.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Kim Hanna,

            First, the respect is mutual. Had I known by some grace of providence that you were going to ask me a difficult question, as you put, I would have appealed for your clemency to keep it easy for me. Now that you have asked me a difficult question, pray for me that I would be able to tackle it to your satisfaction.

            Sober contemplation on the weigh, substance and moral and intellectual dimensions of the question makes one think that it seems to raise an argument with history, and the dynamisms that trigger its events and shape its movements. In other word, history does not preface its movement with prior plans involved peoples could use in weighing their options: stop the movement of history or move with it to whatever destination the journey would bring them. I am trying to stress this point so that I would not be accused of hiding behind the clichés, though crucially important on their own merits, of the terms and concepts you have listed in your last sentence.

            Now then, my understanding of your question is in its broad dimension, and not in its simplified sense of fathers and mothers on family unit level. What I mean to say is that my words to MS that had provoked you to ask the question were written by way of underscoring the efforts Eritrean’s men and women made during the years of Eritrean nation’s war of liberation; I hope this has made the context clear.

            This leads me to the gist of the question of what that cumulative effort of the Eritrean families as a nation achieved for their children. The straight forward answer is that what they had achieved is the same as what other peoples had achieved when they had decided to struggle and pay the necessary cost for the sake of establishing their national identity as embodied in a statehood. The history and process in Eritrea is not different from what happened with peoples in many countries on the Continent of Africa or elsewhere. If you look at the background history of your own country, you would not miss to note how central this point is in the social and political psyche of people conscious of their national identity. Had it been otherwise, the Ethiopians would not have bothered to sacrifice so much lives and material when they were invaded by the Italian colonialists. I can even add that they would not have cared to see thousands of their loved ones perish in span of 30 years in trying to keep Eritrea had they not believed it was worth as a nation from their perspective.

            Let me add here as closing remark and write that appraisal or judgement of a historical process that ended up in nationhood through people’s struggle and sacrifices cannot be dwarfed to whether or not families and their children have been blessed with bounties that achievement is supposed to accrue. Watch out here, I am not saying that is not important. What I am trying to say is post historical process exigencies do not warrant demonization of that process. The misfortunes that we witness visiting our people in Eritrea should not be judged as deplorable mistake the liberation struggle generation had committed. They had responded to the call of history of a nation that became aware of wrong done to it by forces that had broken international law. The current situation, which has more to do with matters of governance and mishap in the process of nation building rather than efficacy of the strategic and historic choice of our people, should not be exploited to rationalize pessimism and lead us to reckless revisionism that amounts of trying to have a nation regret the option it chose and succeeded to attain.

            Regards

          • sara

            Dear ustaz
            i rushed to reply to kim, before i see your comment, i was furious his questioning of our parents. your reply was eloquent and appropriate… sorry if i wrote any thing that contradicts your post.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear sara,
            Thank you for enriching my post. You have in fact amazingly summarized what I actually tried to tell our good brother, Kim.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Ismail AA,
            .
            I appreciate the answer given for its content and grace. I am glad I asked you the question. I was going to say thank you and stop. But I needed to say a little bit more because it has an impact on me. I think it even addressed another question I didn’t ask. The question of why in 1991 rolling in Addis with tanks chose without too much fanfare went back to Asmara without 2nd thought.
            .
            The birth of a nation, national identity, aspired from the beginning to erect that “Eritreaness” became overtime the overwhelming driving force until its conclusion.
            .
            Sir, I am going to print your response to my question, because I am afraid I have to read and reread it again.
            Sometimes I come across folks like you and Hayat and wonder. It is really a pity, isn’t it?
            Those who should have been here are there and those who should have been there running the country are here.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello KH,

            “Those who should have been here are there and those who should have been there running the country are here.”

            You made my day. I have been thinking similar thoughts for a long time, but almost exactly word for word in recent months.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Kim Hanna,
            Sir, I feel humbled by your graciousness and personal nobility. Moreover, I am glad that you could pick useful point or two from my hasty and rudimentary attempt to answer your allround question about endgames which peoples’ historical destinies are supposed to produce.
            In a word, a mother’s womb that carried the burden of everything conceiving entails should be blessed by the happiness of a healthy child. But, unfortunately history of nations does not unfold in the the manner of how nature and God’s creation works. This is the point I tried to drive home to you.
            Thanks again, Kim

          • sara

            Dear Kim
            from your above comment and most of your posts you are simply trying to tell us what you fought for has brought you misery etc why go all around all the bush
            just say it.
            k.m if you are honest i will ask you a simple question, what do you think about the american revolution? what do you think about Americas post revolution civil war? what do you think about those Americans who tell us day and night the ” As our founding fathers” have said…did… dreamed…. struggled… etc
            btw, my question is not also elegant and the analogy not fitting., but your question what the fathers and mothers achieved to their offspring’s can help you get the answer if you seriously answer my above questions.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam sara,
            .
            I just responded to Mr. Ismail AA below. Perhaps, my answer to him might be satisfactory to you.
            .
            I didn’t ask the question to be offensive, specially not to him. His answer to my question is really the template for the future similar questions in different settings.
            .
            Thank you.
            .
            Mr. K.H

      • Hayat Adem

        Dearest Ismail,
        Thank you for the complement. I add my rejoinder to what Mahmuday said to you as a complement. Simply put you are the most balanced and every comment from you has some added value to whatever existed. You have a beautiful soul Ismail.
        Well, you have put up a difficult question to me. What I said WelWel said is true. I have learned about it from a good source (unimpeachable like Saay would say).
        I will get back to you on your bigger point as to how the Emperor was trying hard to win the lowlanders immediately after he had undone the federation.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Hayat,

          I appreciate the compliment and it’s Mutual. It is a token of your graciousness and decency.

          It was not a dubious move on my part to pose a difficult question on the comments you had ascribed to the late Weldeab Weldemariam. I was just curious that I had never heard about it though I grew up through the years learning through word of mouth many things about him; this was not among them. The point that made me stop was that a man of his stature and political astuteness might have not risked making such comments. I mean those words would hardly sounded respectful by the lowlanders such as his friend and comrade-in-struggle, Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan.

          Now, it is great that you have confidence in your source. So, let us leave the matter there. After all I believe you concur with me that it is a bit unsettling to attempt to corroborate things we learn through oral transmission posthumously.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ahlen Ismailo,

            Now Hayat will come with a cooked story on our icon Welwel. She will do everything that disgrace the history of the braves and the cause of our struggle. She never give up her project. Keep your keen eyes on her.

            Regards

        • Nitricc

          Hi Hayat; you said ” I will get back to you on your bigger point as to how the Emperor was
          trying hard to win the lowlanders immediately after he had undone the
          federation”
          Are you for real? well, ” in god we truest, everybody else should present data”
          Your king tried to wipe the lowlanders up by massacring the lowlanders to no end while the same king did everything to appease the highlanders. There was a reason why the struggle for independence was originated by the lowlanders.

        • Abraham H.

          Dear Hayat A., If you have learned what you quoted our father and patriot WelWel allegedly to have said about Eritrean lowlanders from someone, then I guess, that person must have witnessed it personally, or knew someone else who was personally present when the remarks were made. It is very strange those serious alleged remarks of our WelWel were not picked by one of the many historians who covered the moderen Eritrean history. Or, if there are any written sources to those alleged claims, could you present them for us?

        • Saleh Johar

          Ahlan Hayat,
          I have to say that, I think, your second-hand quote of Welwel is unfortunate. Here is why.
          1. I am sure many have heard people quoting Welwel: aboy Weldeab, “kenesamamE tesemamiEna” ilom. The quote dates back to 1770 by a different person (Wikipedia and other sources). Yet, I have met Eritreans who swear it’s Welwel who said it. Being an intellectual, Welwel could have been the first Eritrean to read the quote and maybe he repeated it. But not all were to his level.

          2. I am sure you have seen how many people quote made up stuff and attribute it to me–I just laugh about it.

          We all know that there is prejudice and bigotry all around us and people say stuff they believe or perceive and to validate it, they just allege some known person have said it. That way, it gains credibility.

          I will not go to the other stuff you mentioned because it will be a circular journey–maybe some other time. But Welwel? Please don’t be part of it unknowingly. There are people who want to paint him s a bigot to validate their own bigotry.

          By the way, a friend has finished writing a book about Welwel, and it will be out soon. Maybe that will give us an insight on his character.

          • Hayat Adem

            The Hon SGJ,
            I agree with what you said here, with all of it.
            Howwver, precaution is needed on both aspects. I believe statistics calls them type1 and type2 errors. Picking up stories while they are more likely to be untrue than not could be as sinful as dropping stories when they are more likely to be true than not.
            SGJ, are you, or the friend you told us just authored the new book on WelWel, aware of the lengthy letter WelWel wrote to the King in 1947? If so, what is your sense about the essence of that letter?
            I have grown up believing many fairy stories coming my way. Now finding many of those questionable and untrue, I apply disciplined thinking while considering, first the authenticity, and then, the implications of every important story. But still, I am sure I have my own load share in carrying and passing half true or totally created stuff. What I may confidently promise anyone reading me here is that I don’t promote or defend an idea or a story for any intended end while knowing the idea or the story doesn’t bear itself towards truth bound.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi hayat,
            Thanks for the honest reply.
            I am aware of the letter though I have not seen it, and wouldn’t quote it until I see it and convince myself it is true, and after looking at the context. I think we have to consider the context of anything in a contested political discourse because they are not given in a legal or court setting. Not to absolve anything, but to be fair.

            I am not privy to say what is covered in the upcoming book but I assure you I am critical of such works and do not accept stuff at face value. I will not discount anything because I do not like it or defend it because I agree with it. The point I am trying to make is that all major players are victims of their success or fame and welwel was both. And being a victim of similar defamations I tend to side with his character. But as long as we are open, we will keep learning

            One more thing: I have my own reservation on the entire ghedli experience but it is important to understand that I have a cause, and if I sense an attack on my cause, naturally, I give the best fight I can because the current struggle is about life and death, about freedom and slavery, not an intellectual pastime as some seem to consider it. I am not saying that is true to everybody, but it is to me and my allies in this struggle. And those who enjoy beating Eritreans when they are down annoy me the most:-)

          • MS

            Dear Hayat
            Please Hayat keep it simple. Don’t try to mystify things. You are requested to back up a direct quote you brought into this forum purportedly from our father Weldeab Weldemaiam where WelWel is quoted as denigrating the lowlanders. We need you to address Haile Zeru’s repeated modest requests because:
            a/ we want to see in what context he had said it, if he said it.
            b/ if no source is furnished by you, and by source, I mean a credible source, then you have to apologize. That is a right thing to do.
            IsmailAA asked you to elaborate on that “out of the blue” quote of yours, or the “naTieba” story. But first you will have to tell us the source.
            Instead of talking about statistical testing theories, and try to mystify simple requests, please stick to your word that you would present the source. Now, you know if you are quoting something, you would not have difficulty telling us where you found that quote. Normally, if they believe they heard or read it somewhere, people paraphrase or indicate that they were not quite sure of the source. But you inserted a quote and you told us you have the source.
            People change, people grow; I’m sure WelWel passed through different political stages. However, he was a man of integrity. known for his famous statement that Eritrea was saved from division by SheiK Ibrahim Sultan. He had a lot to say about other lowland politicians including the towering intellectual AbdulQader Kebeere. So, when you insert such quotes, we will demand you present the source or withdraw it.
            Reading your insinuations about the picture of Asfaha and your strange quote of WelWel, I’m really disappointed. I would not care if this was written by one of the ugly bigots and partisans who are showing up here to cheer you up. Do the right thing. Demystify and simplify it (no need for statistical hypotheses). Just present the source of the quote or withdraw it. Easy.

          • Paulos

            Selam MS,

            This thing about putting Hayat on the stand and barraging her doesn’t make any sense where it seems to me that it is in fact a “We got you moment” precisely because Hayat brings to this forum challenging and “Weyanesque” points. Wel-Wel lived in a world where “viva voce” or word-of-mouth was the trade of the day where social-media was a thing of the future. As such, to ask her to reference the quote is just dishonest attempt again a cheap shot to embarrass her.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Paulos,

            Are you kidding? Don’t put yourself to defend the undefendable blackmailing? How do you know whether it is a make up story or not

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            This must be one of the rare occasions where you and Vet Mahmud agree on a topic. You chose the right moment to bit up a woman that is way too smart that you can’t handle by yourself.
            Five former tegadalays whose mission in life is defending gedli at any cost collaborating against one bright woman.
            Shame.

          • Haile S.

            HI Abi,
            ከምስጥ ጎተራ ተራራ ኣደርግከው እኮ።
            BTW, aren’t you dethroning the queen? This is far from being her annus horribilis!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            A person who debate on something “እንዲህ ይወራል እንዲህ ይባላል” is not smart in my book. Because you agreed on what she has to say, doesn’t necessarly attribute the virtue of smartness to her. I am completely disappointed a person of her caliber to bring “የከተማ በራሪ ወሬ” to undermine welwel the symbol of unity in the Eritrean history – who put a ring of unity with his counterpart Ibrahim Sultan in the 50s. Therefore stay away from the Eritrean issue, something you don’t know.

          • Abi

            Funny you said ” stay away from Eritrean issue”. Very cheap of you.
            Well, let me heed your advice for a change. What is there to discuss for me except ሽማግሌዎቹ ጀርባችሁን ስትተካከኩ ከማየትና ከመታዘብ በቀር!

          • Ismail AA

            Indeyet neh gashe abi,
            Glad to see you changed from one liner to three and half liner. Though your take is enormously exaggerated, it is good you have recognized that the five you mentioned have something to defend. But the one you have mentioned is certainly not one of them. She is in fact a brilliant, independent, bold and debate accomplished lady that I, and the rest, too, respect.

          • Abi

            Selam ጋሼ እስማኤል
            እኔማ ደህና ነኝ ንግሥቴን በወላለቀ ጥርሳችሁ ቦጫጨቃችሁዋት እንጂ!

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gashe abi,
            ጎሽ የኜ ጌታ፡
            ደህና መሆንህን በጀ። ስለ ንግስትዋ እንድ ሆነ ፡ ከጥርስ የለላቸው ያድናት እንጂ ኣንተ ያልከው ምንም ኣያደርጋትም።

          • Abi

            Gashe Ismail
            ጥርስ የሌላቸው ይጮሃሉ እንጂ አይናከሱም:: አልፎ አልፎ ጥርስ ያላቸው ናቸው ጉዳት የሚያደርሱት::

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Abi,
            Congratulations, now you are bonded with Nitricc and you became toothless. In two days you surpassed him in using his favorite line of obsession with teeth 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            ቀድሞውንስ ከአህያ የዋለች ጊደር…

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Abi,
            And are you calling Nitricc Ahyya?
            See! I am also learning from you 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            “ሆነ ብሎ ላዳመጣቸው ከእብዶችና ከለፍላፊዎች ቁም ነገር አይታጣም” (ዴዚዴራታ)😳

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ጋሼ ኣቢ፡
            እንዴ! ምን ነካህ ዛሬ ግራ ገባህ፥ ጭሆት ልኩን ካለፈ ኣያሳብድም እንዴ? ጥርስ ያመጣው ቁስል እኮ ይታከማል። ስው በጭሆት ካበደ ግን ደብተራ የጸለየበት ወሃም ኣይጠቅመውም።

          • Abi

            Selam Gashe Haile
            ከፊሎቻችሁ ስትጮሁ የቀራችሁት ስትናከሱ
            አቢን ግራ ገባው ተጨነቀች ነፍሱ::

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ጋሽ ኣቢ፥
            ታድያ የፈጠራት እፎይታ ይለግሳት እንጂ ምን ልበል።

          • Abi

            Gashe Ismail
            ምን ” ምን ልበል” ትለኛለህ? ዝም በል እያልኩህ እኮ ነው::
            ኧረ በመለአኩ ገብርኤል ነገር ይግባህ:: ዋ ብያለሁ!
            AG ከመጣ ማጣፊያው እንዳያጥርህ!

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ጋሽ ኣቢ፡
            እንዴት ብሎ ይደርሰኛል፡ ከማለዳው በፊት ሩቕ ሰፈሬ ኣልሁኝ። ዝም ከተባለማ መግነዙን ነው ነየሚቀረው ጌታየ። በነገራችን ላይ ኣማርኛው እኮ ጠፋብኝ፥ ድሮ ባለ D ተማሪ ነው የነበርኩኝ።

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abi; I have a question for you. Do you have any personal guiding core values that must not be crossed over? reading your cheap shot made me to ask you the question I am asking you. remember, you can have your personal opinion but not facts. What is wrong in saying “Sorry I am wrong”?

          • Abi

            Hi General
            Nothing wrong in saying ” I am sorry. I was wrong “.

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Abi,

            And they all have one thing in common that they all abandoned gedli except the former camel herder whose entire gedli’s experience was to carry PIA’s bag-pack. Hayat is not a simple woman. She is the toughest and most intelligent Eritrean woman I have ever seen. What she has to do to keep them quiet and smile is to tell them that she misspoke. She should tell them that what she meant was not WelWel who was discarded by his Rabita Islamya friends and allies in Cairo, Egypt, but one of the Andnet members. She can choose the legendary ቀሺ Dimetros , Tedla Bairu or Asfaha Weldemichael. It is that simple. Here is the bitter truth: if Hayat had said ቀሺ Dimetros or Tedla Bairu had said it, no one would have forced her to quote her source. The romantics of the barbaric gedli are not that different from the mafia regime in Eritrea after all.

          • Abi

            Hi Sehay
            Glad you stayed around to support the One and Only Abesha Queen .
            I don’t have any doubt that she can blow them away one by one or in a group. Five to One any time any where any topic!
            Stay around and guide some gullible and confused souls.
            Your help is needed badly.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Sehay,

            How about you have some integrity.

            “What she has to do to keep them quiet and smile is to tell them that she misspoke. She should tell them that what she meant was not WelWel who was discarded by his Rabita Islamya friends and allies in Cairo, Egypt, but one of the Andnet members. She can choose the legendary ቀሺ Dimetros , Tedla Bairu or Asfaha Weldemichael.”

            Is this suppose to make things better. WelWel by his own choice decided to live in exile for 40 years because he had integrity. We can’t just let go when such person and character and legacy is trashed.

            Unlike those you happy to honour in your avatar, who behind the ERITREAN parliament and without their mandate went to the king and begged to be his servant and give them the approval to demolish the parliament to lower the ERITREAN flag and in the process they caused the death, exile and suffering of so many people and the lives of so many w paid dearly.

            Berhe

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Berhe,

            ምስ ከምዚ ከማኻ ሰብ-ያሰብ ተዛሪብና: ጭቃ ተጸይቕና ክንወጽ እንተዘይ ኮይኑ ኣየናይ ቁምነገር ዘለዎ መደረ ክምደር::

            Do you think the legend ቀሺ Dimetros lived in his own country for the rest of his life? After the barbaric gedli attempted to assassinate him several times, he also left his beloved home and family to live in a safe place in Ethiopia. He was a dedicated man for the causes he deeply believed in. He fought and served his constituent with dignity and honor until the time he was forced out of his ancestral land.

            Let me tell you the truth about the legend: no Eritrean in the history of Eritrea have fought for the interest of his or her people more than ቀሺ Dimetros. He was not interested in raising or putting a piece of rag (the flag) at the tip of a pole, he was more interested and more dedicated to the everlasting peace and prosperity of the people he represented with pride, integrity and dignity. ቀሺ Dimetros had never ever been accused of killing Eritreans. The ruthless ሽፍታ who started the armed struggle did. The fanatical Islamists who controlled the tribal and archaic ELF did. The barbaric EPLF and the PFDJ mafia did. The number of Eritreans who were killed and exiled by the barbaric gedli outweigh a thousand times the number of Eritreans who were killed and exiled by previous Ethiopian regimes combined.

            Berhe, if you don’t want to know people how gullible you are, it is a good idea to keep your mouth closed. When it comes to knowing the barbaric history of gedli and the federation era, you are simply at the bottom of the hierarchy. Take your time to learn, to absorb and to analyze. You are a case in point how the Ethiopians spent so much money and resource to educate Eritreans who lived in the cities. Leave gedli to those who know it from inside out.

            Enjoy the weekend.

            You are welcome…to borrow the witty Abi’s closing statement.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Sahay,

            Well let history be the judge. His constituents are dying in the Sahara and in the Mediterranean Sea and become food for the sharks.

            What a fine job he has done, his son servers the derg and serving the pfdj and dismantling the same church his father suppose to have served.

            It’s not that I am accusing him of pulling the trigger and shot and took like. But he triggered the shot that killed the ERITREAN parliament, without having the mandate to do so. That’s the reason his constituents are dying in the thousands.

            Off course this is not lost in you.

            Can please tell me what village, what city, what town did the elf burned?

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            You never fail to confuse me. Is Qeshi Dimitros and IA one and the same person? Did Eritreans die in the Mediterranean and Sahara desert during Qeshi Dimitros time? Why are you trying to implicate him to the current situation?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            It started with him with Eritreans in the low lands, now it is continuing with his son and cousin IA for the rest.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            No , it all started with Awate and friends.

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Abi,

            Please ask your beautiful wife to translate for you the Tigrigna phrase “ክዳን ተለበሱስ ሰብ ይመስሉ”, and use it whenever you happen to communicate with guys like Berhe.

          • Abi

            Hi Sehay
            This one is easy. Let me correct you a little bit.
            ” ክዳን ተለበሱስ zombies ሰብ ይመስሉ”

            “ልብስ ሲለብሱ ሰው ይመስላሉ”

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            So typical, no hard facts and evidence is expected from you.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            I am not known for hard facts and evidence. But but but but…… your logic to implicate Qeshi Dimitros in the current situation is only expected from a zombie in a human cloth.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            First you should stop your insults. You don’t have hard facts because you are a hypocrite.

            Second point, if you don’t know the consequence of dismantling the parliament, the highest authority of the land, then anything else pales in comparison.

            He was the central figure in dismantling the parliament. Before that, Eritreans (from lowlands or highlands) liven in their country in peace.

            Here learn some facts from Ethiopian historian

            http://www.ethiopians.com/NA_Review_EritreanAffair_ZR.htm

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            Call me hypocrite or any fancy sounding name . The fact remains Qeshi Dimitros has been vindicated beyond any reasonable doubt. He tried to avoid the current situation.
            Eritreans from highlands and lowlands lived in peace before you mindlessly jumped on the madness train .

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I am not sounding fancy, just telling who you based on the many stand you take.

            If someone is vindicated or not, time would tell. He was warned by so many capable people that the actions he is taking will create misery for the ERITREAN people and future generations.

            Eritreans exiled from their lands in the 60s, while he was alive and the HS government was in power, don’t they count as well.

            After the defeat of Italians by the British, Eritreans have close to 20 years before they took up arms.

            Egypt and Arabs lived long before 1961, as you simply try to paint the picture.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            What do you mean by ” time would tell”? The time has arrived to vindicate Qeshi Dimitros.
            Now tell me Berhe Hawey, who brought misery to your people? Qeshi Dimitros or Idris Awate and all who rode on the madness train operated by him?

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Abi,

            I think what Berhe is saying is that the people warned ቀሺ Dimitros if he did not change his political vision, they would create the worst miseries to the Eritrean people unmatched in the annals of human history. And let me tell you, by giving numerous examples, that Berhe was absolutely “right”. Here are some of the consequences of ቀሺ Dimitros’ actions,

            1. The killing of fighters and farmers, the robbing of cattle and burning of villages by the ELF in the 1960s were the fault of ቀሺ Dimitros.

            2. The barbaric civil wars that killed so many fighters in the 1970s within the different rebel factions, the liquidation of ፋሉል by the ELF and መንካዕ-የሚን by the EPLF were the fault of ቀሺ Dimitros.

            3. The barbaric stationary and mobile prison camps of the ELF, the notorious ሓለዋ-ሰውራ of the EPLF were the fault of ቀሺ Dimitros.

            4. The extermination of highland Eritrea’s youth through endless and barbaric forced recruitment (ግፋ) by the ELF in the 1970s and the EPLF in the 1980s were the fault of ቀሺ Dimitros. Berhe was so lucky that he was well protected by the Ethiopians from the barbarity of gedli.

            5. The miseries and mayhem that the Eritrean people have been subjected to for the last 26 years are the fault of ቀሺ Dimitros.

            And what exactly did ቀሺ Dimitros did anyways? He spoke on behalf the 98% of the people in the province of Hamassien, 80% of the people in Seraye and 75% of the people in Akeleguzai for the choices they had made to reunite with their historical brothers and sisters on the other side of the Mereb-River. That was his grand sin 🙂 Eritreans know that there was no Eritrean who struggled to unite Eritrea with Ethiopia more than Tedla Bairu. However, ቀሺ Dimitros is very lucky to get all the attention and receive all credits that he did not deserve. The reason why he gets so much attention, however, is due to the fact that he was a staunch defender of the Tewahdo church that the people on the opposite side despised.

          • Abi

            Hi Sahay
            I’m glad you mentioned the faults of ቀሺ Dimitros for the gullibles who were well protected by the Ethiopians in the cities of Eritrea . Berhe left the country while his brothers in rural Eritrea were forcibly recruited to war by Elf and EPLF. At the same time Amanuel Hidnrat , the big time elf defender , was mass organizing Eritreans in my backyard. What is sad is he spent half his life recruiting and procuring for elf, and now he is defending and bragging tirelessly and unashamedly the miseries he helped brought to his people for the rest of his remaining time on this side of the earth.

            Hey don’t blame ቀሺ Dimitros for my wife marrying an Ethiopian. You never know with Hawuna Berhe around there is no dull moment.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Abi,

            We have been on this topic many times but you don’t seem to have the benefit of the doubt to give to other side of the story.

            There are many countries who went in their own way and have managed to do quite well. What we are missing is a good government and a good leader who would allow the people to do what they are good at.

            If you want an example, Singapore from Indonesia, Norway from Denmark, Finland from Russia, Taiwan from China, etc.

            So Eritrea will have its better days.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Sehay,

            At least you are getting better, you have minimized your insults and added some substance, that is progrss.

            The stat you gave about people of Kebessa wanting to unite with Ethiopia would be true in 1952. No body knows that was the case in 1962. So that argument does not hold water, it’s irrelevant.

            On Tedla Bairu, what ever his past involvement was for leading the unity group but he did the most honorouble a politician can do. When he found out that the federal arrangement is not working by too much interference from Ethiopia and the king, he resigned publicly and hand over power. This is unheard off in our history, and I dare say in Ethiopia political history either.

            On the other hand qeshi dimepetos did not have the mandate or the approval of the parliament and what followed next is his responsibility.

            Berhe

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Berhe,

            This is the most laughable and the most ignorant statement I have read: “When he found out that the federal arrangement is not working by too much interference from Ethiopia and the king, he resigned publicly and hand over power”. Do you really know the genesis that lead to the resignation of Tedla Bairu? Do you really know what happened after his resignation? I am surprised no one tried to correct you.

            Here are some “Blues-Clues” to help you: Eritrean parliament members’ travel to Addis to complain about Tedla Bairu (Qeshi Dimetros and Ibrahim Sultan traveled together), Sweden, frozen, Addis to Asmara, etc.

            Berhe, you don’t have to write in order to please others. Please write to learn and to enlighten.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            I must admit am enjoying your plausible arguments, its quite refreshing. Would you say we would be blessed to see unifying forces from north of the river once again?

          • Sahay Erican

            Dear Graviton,

            I am from the camp of “People First”. I have no doubt that Eritreans will decide what serves them best in the future. One thing I know for certainty is that the vast majority of the Eritrean people (particularly highland Eritreans…the overwhelming peasants and nomads) never supported the barbaric gedli willingly. What the barbaric gedli brought to them is unimaginable miseries and mayhem: their livelihood ruined and their children exterminated.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat,

            A simple sorry and apologizing will give you an exit from the encirclement. Have a courage to do it. Yebehal kind of story will kill your credibility. Eloquence and words smithing can not be an alternative to truth.

            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Emma,

            እንታይ’ዳኣ ውግእ ኣምሲልካዮ ተኸቢብኪ’ለኺ ኢድኪ ሃቢ ትብል ኣለኻ. Hayat doesn’t have to apologize to anyone. The quote could be through a word of mouth if you will which is extremely common in our society. Obviously, we can not bring Wel-Wel back to life and ask him if he said it but what we can do is, discuss about pressing and urgent matters instead as you are fond of saying, Eritrea is facing grave issues.

          • Nitricc

            Hey P; I think you got this all wrong. Who cares of Hayat is right or wrong, she is not in public office or in some kind of power which can harm the greater good of the masses. However, the point is, we ought to keep every one honest while we work out and practicing the art of discussion, the value of debate and at the end nothing matters if we lose the truth. besides the truth being the end-point, there is anther main point of all to this, that is, when you are wrong, say MY Bad, sorry and move on. instead of you encouraging Hayat to say my bad and move on, yet, you are colluding with her absolute Preposterousity. point? you are wrong!

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            I like your input much better. At least you’re honest. Colluding and preposterousity? Damn Nitrikay! You’re looking swell these days.😅

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Hayat,
            I join SGJ in commending you for you honest take. Since I was the first in taking note of the comment you had ascribed and asking for more information, I would like you to understand it was an innocent curiosity driven comment, not any move with covert cynicism as some seem to insinuate. I mean it was not something akin to “ናይ ግድን ቅናትኪ ፍትሕያ” demand, I may use this common Tigrigna expression. As I tried to tell you yesterday, we all grew up hearing anecdotes of similar kind, and believing them without bothering to check them.
            Now, at the risk of repeating myself, I will hereunder repost my earlier comment which stressed that we had to leave the matter there:
            “I appreciate the compliment and it’s Mutual. It is a token of your graciousness and decency.
            It was not a dubious move on my part to pose a difficult question on the comments you had ascribed to the late Weldeab Weldemariam. I was just curious that I had never heard about it though I grew up through the years learning through word of mouth many things about him; this was not among them. The point that made me stop was that a man of his stature and political astuteness might have not risked making such comments. I mean those words would have had hardly sounded respectful by the lowlanders such as his friend and comrade-in-struggle, Sheikh Ibrahim Sultan.
            Now, it is great that you have confidence in your source. So, let us leave the matter there. After all, I believe you concur with me that it is a bit unsettling to attempt to corroborate things we learned through oral transmission posthumously.”
            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam ክቡር ኣያይ Ismail AA,

            You’re just an amazing person, a beautiful soul. ተስፋ ይገብር ሐደ ማዓልቲ መራሒና ክትከውን.

          • Ismail AA

            selam Paulos,
            ክብረት ይሃበለይ፣ ኣያ ዝብሉ ኣይሰኣኑ። ካላይ ኮንካዮ ን ሰለሙን ጻጸ ወዲ ሓወይ።

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Hayat, I just wonder what is keeping you from disclosing your source of the quote when you are so sure about its truthfulness? When an awatista of your stature makes such highly charged claims about important historical figures as WelWel, then they must expect to be challenged for presenting their sources.

          • Paulos

            Selam SGJ,

            Just curious, the book you mentioned about Wel-Wel, is it in Tigrinya or English?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            It’s in English and now I am told it’s coming out in June.

          • Paulos

            Selam SGJ,

            Thank you. Look forward to read it.

    • Haile Zeru

      Dear Hayat ,
      I second the great Ismail AA below. You have to back up your claim. Silence is not an answer.

    • Sahay Erican

      Dearest Queen,

      Your comment is the the most objective one in a website where conformity is the official religion. Let me give you a word of advice. A contemporary of the ብዘመነ-ገድሊ ዝጸመሙ men here once said, “There are three types of men: the ሰብ, the ሰብ-ያሰብ and the ኣንካንኪኖስ.”

      Chatting with the second and third groups is a real waste of your precious time. Conserve your energy to the first. You are dealing with people who had abandoned the barbaric gedli in its difficult times and others right after independence. For these people, patriotism is the least word that would describe them. So your Majesty, it aint rocket science to identify who is who, and deal with each group accordingly. Now let me disappear before the filthy bullets fly towards me.

  • Selamat Awatistas,

    Check out Hedgait Blog spot. The Editor of the Article should be fired.

    tSAtSE

  • Paulos

    Selamat Awatistas,

    Is it just me or everyone is also with the same impression the fact that there seems to be a disconnect between the highlighted events. More over, the story not only jumps from one to another, I am kind of at a loss to figure out what the purpose of the whole article is.

    • Haile S.

      Hi Paulos,
      I had the same impression. May be any spicy or sulfurous information and glues that linked together the stories were lost in the translation. And in addition, we might not have been the right message recipients.

      • Paulos

        Selam Haile,

        That’s a valid point. Lost in translation makes sense. It was kind of a turn off where for instance, the writer introduces us to an English teacher turned a spy ala’ John Le Carre or Ian Fleming novel then the spy ceases to exist before we even knew his real name much less his “shaken not stirred” catchphrase as he ordered Martini at ባር ትብለጽ around ዕዳጋሓሙስ area.

    • G. Gebru

      Selamat,
      Leaving its purpose aside, I think it indicates two things.
      1. That Eritrea was and is still the victim of its elites and geopolitics.
      2. As the adage says ” a bancrupt trader or merchant revises his old account books”.
      Thanks.

      • Paulos

        Selam Gebru,

        There is nothing new there as per your assertion “elites and geopolitics.” Volumes have been written to that effect.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Paulos,

      I found this article very illuminating. This kind of information is some of those which could easily disappear from annals of history with no one noticing and I am glad someone had recorded it and those who brought it to us deserve our at most gratitude. It shows a rare section of historical anecdotes, the then regional politics, who were the major players, and how they played their respective roles.

      Although I cannot underestimate the amount of effort needed to translate this much information, we, Awatistas, are a spoiled bunch, and I can’t help it to think that it could have been better if it was split into three articles with each having a clearer beginning, middle, and an end for a better presentation and better understanding of the several lessons contained within.

      • Paulos

        Selam Fantination,

        I don’t mean to be disrespectful or rude to the writer but all I see is disconnected anecdotes where at most the takeaway home if any and this is to be fair to the writer, he gave us a glimpse how deep the Emperor (May his soul rest in peace) was involved in Sudan of course in an attempt to nip the Eritrean revolution in the bud. Of curiosity though, was Meles Andom brother of Aman Andom?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Hello Paulos,

          Sorry Paulos if I guilted you with my “we are spoiled” statement. I was just thinking of the combination of how easy we always have it here and the challenge of translating this amount of data is. This is one good example of the difference between translating and summarizing. When summarizing, one is freed from the constraints of the accuracy translation demands, but when translating, one is obliged to stay as close as the languages involved allow to the original text.

          Think of this article as one rare piece of our jigsaw puzzle of regional politics!

          PS:
          Yes, Meles is Aman’s brother.

        • Brhan

          Hello Paulos, Yeah they were brothers ….but you do not have to be itchy with regard to styles of writing …it is like food…Doro Wet….Firfir…Qey Wet….some like it all, some like some…it it is the taste..
          I agree with you the Emperor was smart but not right that is what he was overthrown by Ethiopians

      • Haile S.

        Dear Fanti Ghana,
        Based on my fragmentary understanding of this article, now I understand why you were carrying an Afar style dagger on your waist 24/7 when you were in Sudan:-)

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Haile S.,

          I was laughing yesterday about your first birthday party because it was exactly the same for me. My reaction that followed their “surprise” was so dangerous that they never repeated it ever again. When you now mentioned a “dagger” I couldn’t help but remember that birthday and laugh out loud.

      • woldeab

        Fanti,
        Is this another of your pretentious Pollyanna moment?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Hello weldeab,

          I am not pretending to be anything or anyone. I am just thanking someone for their effort of adding more information to my knowledge of our history. Tell me why you think that I am being “pretentious” with my above statement and let’s discuss it.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Paulos,
      .
      I am a little bewildered too, however it was an interesting stew of sometimes what seems a “National Inquirer” type of stories mixed in with certain facts and innuendos.
      .
      The story out of the blue that was included in the article about Prince Makonnen and Abebe Bikila is the perfect illustration for the article itself.
      If I ask why that story would be there, and if it must be, why would the Emperor assist Abebe Bikila in his medical treatment in Europe much later in life, might elicit even more convoluted answer, so I would not ask it.
      .
      It might be a translation problem, like trying to tell a joke in a different language. That does not absolve the Professor here of responsibility.
      I have enjoyed the Sudan and Syria stories, even though I have to put in a grain of salt out of necessity. I look forward to read that part of the story by someone else, someone with a rank of a Major or Colonel.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Paulos

        Selam Kim Hanna,

        Glad that we’re discussing the article and maybe a review of sorts where the ever generous Fantination gave it thumbs up. That said, high power family as in the Emperor’s are naturally under the cruelty of an overactive imagination where conspiracy theory followed them to the end. One among others was the death of Prince Mekonen and the Emperor’s alleged indifference towards Prince Asfahawesen. We have heard these kind of stories before or read them somewhere. What is interesting is that they still appeal to an Eritrean audience. If Isaias is reading the article, I can see him fuming simply because his ego is rubbed in the wrong way as he is not mentioned not only remotely even in passing either.

        • Abi

          Paul
          I’m waiting until somebody comes up with a summary of not more than 2 pages. In the mean time I just watch you get confused.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Paulos,
          .
          All the conspiracy and suspicions that was strong enough for Mengistu Haile Mariam to directly ask the Emperor for the account number at the Swiss bank. We don’t have any account in Swiss Banks, answered the Emperor. International lawyers looked everywhere, they came out empty.
          .
          Years later, irony of ironies, few years ago computer hackers disclosed the secret Swiss Bank accounts and balances. The Emperor’s or his family’s name was not in that list.
          But…..But.. there was someone in Eritrea who has an account with over $600,000,000.00 in an account. That was not a big deal, when it should be at every conversation.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Abi

            Hi Kim
            The occupation of that account holder is ” driver”.
            I wonder if that driver is driving the country into a ditch.

          • Hello Kim,

            What does he drive? an Ene-Tre?

            tSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Selam Tsatse,

            Yea we used to call them Ene-Tre which is actually N-3. Or Tigreto.

    • Selam Paulos and others,

      Look how history is written: It is rumoured that Abebe Bikila shot dead Prince Makonnen Haile Selassie who died in 1957, because he found him in bed with his wife. Then, Abebe Bikila lived to become the greatest marathon runner ever, by winning two olympic medals, in 1960 (Rome) and in 1964 (Tokyo), and was revered by all ethiopians during HSI rule. Rumour and fact have the same value whenever there is a purpose, and they are brought to the reader on the same page.
      The importance of a fake history (news) is that, what matters most is not the truth that does not exist, but the made-up fact that remains in the mind of the reader.

      • Selamat Horizon,

        I believe this is my very first engagement with you. Qn: Which part of this history is fake? Your comments?
        Or outside YOUR understanding of the past, present and outlook for the future everything everything else is fake? Well this may very well be THE E- HORIZON of a new physics? Is there a Dr. Physicist in DA HOUSE? Graviton! look upon and beyond yonder HORIZON!

        FetCHEW!!! Inda TeQalsna Hager keneIIRi, abalashewna beAl ikeyy Gbri.

        STAND on 17! Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

        Dub72uces
        tSAtSE

  • Legacy

    Hi OMER,

    This was a fantastic read. Thank you so much for your translation. Were the fighters that received trainings from the Syrians, members of ELF or EPLF?

    Men were a lot nicer back then I guess on the account of the many warnings the Ethiopian intelligence officer received from his adversaries. Today, a mere suspicion would condemn you to death.

    Thanks ,

    Yoty Topy.

  • Graviton

    Peace new?

    So Ghedli was an arab sponsored misfortune?

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Graviton,

      You are a simpleton as usual.

      The Eritrean revolution had a real cause based on justice and freedom. The revolution came first and attempts by the Arabs to exploit it, for their benefit came later. It is not the other way round.

      Prominent, in their Eritrean involvement among the Arabs, were Egypt and Syria. Egypt is thirsty for water and thrives by encouraging chaos and mayhem in the Northern Horn. While the minority Alawaite regime is an actor that perfected the art of the double game, acting as an arsonist and fireman at the same time. It is now paying a painful price for the decades of its cynical exploitation of other peoples’ misfortunes.

      • sara

        Ya simon,
        Note, those days were I think when Arabs,Africans helping each other end colonization.
        Including the anti apartheid struggle in South Africa . Egypt contribution to various African anti colonial struggle is well documented.

        • Simon Kaleab

          selam sara,

          Arabs helping Africans?

          I have a bridge to sell to you.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Simon Kaleab,

            Actually sara is right about the then Arab-Africa relations with Algeria and Egypt playing major roles. Palestine was the role model for all freedom oriented movements of the region. The political hot topics in those days were mainly about independence, freedom, and equality, and ideology was the number 1 uniting factor than anything else. For example, our very first EPRP guerrilla fighters were trained by Palestinians.

            It would make a great social study if one can find out how the region changed so quickly from globally minded society to the tribal, ethnic, and religion based smallness it has now reached.
            Did you know, for example, Pan-Arabism was a Marxist-Leninist organization when it was first conceived?

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Fanti Ghana
            ኧረ ትንሽ እየታፈረ!

          • sara

            Dear Abi,
            do you know the favorite son of Nkrumah (Ghanian) is called JAMAL?
            after the Egyptian revolutionary leader Jamal Abdulnaser.

          • Abi

            Sariti
            No, I don’t know about JAMAL.
            I know of a religion called Ras Teferian. It is from Ras Teferi Mekonen. No need to explain who Ras Teferi was for you.
            The All Time Great King of Kings , His Excellency Atse HaileSelassie , helped many African Countries regain their independence. That is why today we see the colors of 🇪🇹 ( Ethiopian) flag in many flags of African Countries including 🇬🇭 ( Ghana). No wonder he is called FATHER OF AFRICA. I don’t expect you and Fanti from Ghana to know this.
            Take that to the Bank!
            You welcome.

          • sara

            ato abi,
            at least you know now Jamal abdulnasser had that deep influnce in african liberation struggle that the famous PAN AFRICANIST ghanian named Nkrumuh
            has named his son after the torch bearer of the 50th liberretrian from egypt.
            oh… you brought those ras teferians in jamaica.. is that bob marley thing…what else..non.
            Ask any African ,from north to south, east to west they all will tell you with deep appreciation about the Egyptian and arab support to gain their independence.,
            This info- i assure you you can take it to any international bank .

          • Abi

            Sariti
            Not nice to belittle others religion. It is not a “bob marley thing”.
            You got a point here. The Arabs in general and Egyptians in particular helped you gain independence.
            This, I will take to the bank

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abi,

            Haile Selassie was a hypocrite. When Wello and Tigray were starving, he was running around Africa to build his fake image.

            On the other hand, Nasser and Nkrumah were well known KGB agents [first class].

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Abi,

            Bridge for sale. The broker [delala] is Fanti.

          • Selam Fanti Ghana,

            You seem to give too much credit to arab-african relations. I tried to, but I could not find where arab nations played a positive role in africa. Post wwii was the time arabs themselves were fighting to get out of the grip of their kings and dictators and new allegedly progressive arab governments were forming in the region, and africans were emerging from colonialism as new nations at the same time. The would-be new powers (egypt, syria, included) were working hard to get a foothold in sub-saharan africa.
            Pan-arabism (pan arab nationalism) was a nationalistic ideology that tried to bring together all arab nations in order to create one strong arab nation, extending from the atlantic to the persian gulf. It did not take off, because there were many controversies, such as who should be the super-leader of the arab world, even when it incorporated only three countries (egypt, libya and syria). Pan-arabism, was not a marxist-leninist organization, the first being an ethnic oriented movement unlike the the later that had as its core ideology, internationalism.
            Egypt was one of the leaders of the non-aligned nations. It was talking of peace, unity and cooperation in the third world at conferences, while at the same time it was manufacturing liberation fronts to destabilize especially the horn of africa.
            The broader region of the horn was never a globally oriented area. It was the playground of the two world powers, the west and east, and arab powers. Eritrean ultra-nationalism was not a broad movement that was echoing all over the region.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Horizon,

            There were several Pan-Arabic movements ranging from traditionalist to Marxist, but the most important, regionally recognized, and relatively well organized was the one that began in the 30s. It of course, had some mixture of ideologies in its concept of Pan-Arabism, but for all practical purposes, the core of its ideology was indeed a Marxist one.

            It was personalities who were originally part of that Pan-Arabism movement who ultimately influenced the creations of the mellowed versions, Socialist Baath parties of Iraq and Syria. Egyptians in the other hand were more into “Egyptian Nationalism” than Pan-Arabism, but the point is that the entire Middle-East was on some kind of renaissance movement of some sort until the mid 50s.

            The minute details of what eventually happened is not as important to our discussion as the overlying state of mind the Middle-East thinkers were in those days. They were socially and equality driven modernizers. It was with that political atmosphere in the Middle-East the Anti-Colonialism movements of Africa intensified. The combination of the revolutions for reform and the Anti-Colonialism movements had created the sense of camaraderie between the nations of Africa and the Middle-East.

            As far as me giving too much credit to the relationship, remember, when Africa was fighting for its life, so was the Middle-East. All things considered, the relationship between the Middle-East and Africa was/is generally good, and in most cases, cooperative. Think of it this way too: what has Africa done for the Middle-East?

          • Selam Fanti Ghana,
            Why should africans do anything for the middle east? It was arabs who were meddling in african affairs. If they had kept out of our affairs, our history today may not have been that of wars and destructions. Social and ethnic problems that existed may have found a solution without so much bloodshed and destructions. People were gradually learning more. The monarchy was outdated and one ethnic group hagemony unsastainable, and change was coming to the land. Remember, the ethiopian students movement and the 1960 anti-monarchy revolution.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Horizon,

            We were talking about the bigger picture of Middle-East/Africa relations of those days, the struggle for freedom, which they had in common, and how they cooperated whenever they could. However, if we narrow the topic down to what Egypt did or didn’t do in relation to Ethiopia, we are going outside the topic.

            Eritrea was struggling for its independence. Some Arab countries did help it a little, and that is a good thing. The problem is not whether some Arabs helped Africans or not, but how we, Ethiopians, interpret their helping Eritrea. Their intent was not necessarily to harm Ethiopia, but to help Eritrea in its struggle for freedom.

            If you can imagine the timeline and political atmosphere of the Middle-East in the 50s, Syria’s willingness to help Eritrea in its struggle against a forcefully occupying monarch Ethiopia makes a perfect sense. In fact, I will use that as one example Arabs helping Africans from now on.

          • Abi

            Hi Simon
            Does your bridge come with a river?
            Please accept my first up vote.

        • Graviton

          Peace new?

          Gud bel Gonder

      • Graviton

        Peace new?

        I can not be held responsible for your lack of comprehension. Damn it man, its just a one liner, how deep could that be for you to go berserk on me and go on to proffer reinforcing my comment. Anyway its an Ethiopian thing to be appreciative and grateful enough to say thanks. So what was a “simpleton” again?

        • Simon Kaleab

          Graviton,

          Keep on braying, while your women are bought and sold by Arabs in the middle of Addis Ababa.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Simon,
            Is it bad that women are bought and sold to anyone or only when they are bought and sold to Arabs? I don’t know if you mean it that way, but you should be appalled by the whole idea of exploiting women not on racist basis only.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Saleh J.,

            It is bad that women are bought and sold by anyone.

            – In the context of Addis Ababa, it is the Arabs [who are awash with cash] who are the main customers.

            – I was responding to simpleton ‘Graviton’ who made an effort to be sarcastic by saying: “So Ghedli was an arab sponsored misfortune?”

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            Ahhm, emm, we have an update folks, those same ladies were found out to be Eritrean’s straight out of Ethiopian refugee camps. As per our reporter, the motive behind was to get as much money to make it to the shores of the west so they can be seen on TV dancing to the tune of Eritrea’s self reliance.

            stay tuned folks, as the story is still developing(Unlike Eritrea’s economy)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Graviton the simpleton,

            Ethiopia is well known for tourism of the flesh. Your ladies of the night number more than the entire population of Eritrea.

            In the mean time, keep on braying!

          • Graviton

            peace new?

            Typical sawa graduate, whats the population size of our former (soon to return)province? i guess your demigod is the only one who can answer that, i hope he’s good at recording the number of people he shipped and the one’s he’s froze in a “Ghedli” Amber.

            Now recite with me “Awet N’Hafash” ten times as per your prescription.

          • sara

            Ato Graveton
            a typical sawa graduate,if that’s me and is a budge of honor to me like most Eritreans.
            thanks to sawa , eritreans are celebrating 26th year of independence, if not of sawa and its graduates that independence clock would have stooped year 2000.
            they came to our Bure front , we saw them, and kicked them, with their tail between their legs,
            and we said our “Awet N’Hafah” and the rest is history.

          • Abi

            Sariti
            I think most of the Sawa kids are found south of the border in not so good places. How are they protecting your independence?

          • sara

            A to abi,
            Don’t worry they are on a stop over before the long the journeys to show their gratitude to Obama and co.

          • Abi

            Sariti
            You must be kidding me! If the kids are ” on stop over before their long journeys ” who is going to protect your independence? You are saying that they are going farther and faster.
            Sariti, your independence is intact because Ethiopia wants to keep it that way.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            Why are you crying about badme at the UN? You do realize your enormous ignorance when you look back at your comment? You never had a clock to begin with, they sold you a fantasy and now the onus is on you to face “Caveat Emptor”

          • sara

            ato graviton,
            i dont mean to offend you or your compatriots, i only wrote the truth , though i know truth is sour to those of you who like to trash other peoples aspiration.

          • Zara Yaqob

            Hey Sara,
            Sorry to burst your bubble but what happened in Bure was the complete opposite. Eritrean forces were the ones that suffered a heavy defeat and retreated from Bure. This is how Stratfor, BBC and IRIN recorded it.
            Over the weekend, fighting erupted along the disputed southeastern front near Bure, a town 24 miles inland from port Assab. Fighting along the eastern front lines had remained static until now, although Ethiopia launched an offensive in May on both the central and western fronts. Then during the first weekend of June, Ethiopia sent two additional troop divisions to bolster its 25,000-strong force, according to Eritrean reports.

            After a day of fierce fighting, including Ethiopian air raids on Eritrean positions, a reported Eritrean contingent of 15,000 soldiers was forced to abandon its stone trenches along the disputed border and pull back to less defensible, more exposed positions on the desert plateau, reported IRIN June 6.

            The Eritrean Foreign Ministry claimed June 4 to have killed, wounded or captured a total of 3,755 enemy soldiers near the Bure front. Despite that, Ethiopian forces have pressed forward. In fact, officials in Addis Ababa claim that Ethiopian soldiers have advanced to less than six miles of the port, using both air raids and heavy artillery fire to weaken Eritrea’s defense, reported BBC June 6.

            Word of advise: Stop believing everying you read on Shabait!!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Graviton the simpleton,

            Ethiopia’s wealth of human resources is based on their ladies of the night.

            Keep on braying, while the Arabs and those Africans working in the ECA, AU and various embassies are enjoying your sisters and spreading AIDS.

          • Graviton

            Peace new?

            well that explains why you sold Assab to them? i mean, so you can provide your best beauty’s in the hope of economic boost? shame on you, so unpatriotic, so uneritrean, have a broad vision, if you will, think of Singapore? 🙂

            Well, shabby isn’t a fan of original thinking, at least be good at copying.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Graviton the simpleton,

            You are still braying here continuously while your sisters are being enjoyed by Arab pleasure tourists and African diplomats. You have no concern about solving this problem, or do you think it is not a problem?

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