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People in many countries have religions that are not very familiar to us like Christianity, or Islam, or Judaism. It’s not even the less familiar Hinduism or Buddhism. It’s called ancestral worship and we have many people who worship their ancestors.

Once I watched a documentary about New Guinea, where they mummify their ancestors and keep them preserved in a fetal position, inside caves and open-air cages, or in nearby huts. If a guest visits their home, it is respectful to bring out the dehydrated mummy of your ancestor and wave the bones to greet the guest with it, just like waving your hands.

In Mexico they have a tradition called Día de los Muertos in which they parade on the streets with colorful masks carrying effigies of the dead.

In Bolivia they bury the body but keep the skull and occasionally they carry it out during memorial days.

In Malagasy, in a day known as Famadihana when they open the burial crypts, (Gahsi), they turn the bones of their ancestors, then wrap them in fresh shrouds and parade carrying the bones in the streets. They write the names of the dead on the shrouds to keep their memories alive.

In Eritrea we had a yearly event called Id Almeyeteen where relatives of the dead sacrificed animals. It was a somber day where people fed the poor, and the neighborhood gathered for a meal followed by prayers for the soul of the ancestors.

In Abyssinians they do not bring out the bones because opening graves is a serious offense. But many invoke the names of their imaginary ancestors as consultants whenever they want to forcefully express their views—be it bigoted or racist. In recent times that has become more prevalent among a few. However, there is no ancestral philosophy, there is no memorable scientific achievement, no refined art, and no admirable architecture—just empty pride. An agricultural region, it has not even developed farming tools as the ones in use are similar to what they used 3000 years ago in Mesopotamia. However, there are so loud bragging about a few Obelisks and stalae from thousands of years ago, as if it was the most amazing structure that humanity ever built.

Unfortunately they are considered miracles though it’s just a primitive structure like hundreds of other structures strewn all over the world. And it is not exploited to create a vibrant tourist industry or attract visitors, but for empty gloating that instills a sense of an empty pride, and a tool to promote fascistic sentiments. When a culture has a few combative, racist, and bigoted people, it is impossible to grow a vibrant tourist industry. Still, history is politicized and considered a license to tell lies in order to justify an aggressive demeanor: “abotatna kem zbeluwo” or “abotanna kemzgeberwo,” and throw a few proverbs to make it sound exotic.

Our ancestral worshippers are still fighting an old war. They are infatuated by the chaos of living in the wars that their “ancestors” waged—as if it happened last week, as if saying, “our ancestors lived a violent life shedding blood, let’s follow on their footsteps”.

But it’s not all that gloomy past. For instance, St. Yared, has left a legacy of musical notes that unfortunately didn’t leave the confines of the church. Had that been spread among the people, instead of staying limited to the clergy, maybe some music genius would have been created.  Maybe the arts would have developed and inspired many aspects of life, like architecture. Not violence and instability.

Throughout history very few women waged wars, for example Zenoubia of Palmyra, Cleopatra of ancient Egypt, and Queen Yodit of Abyssinia. Yodit was enslaved as a young woman remained full of anger and wanted revenge—particularly against the clergy. Finally, she returned to her home, raised an army, revolted against the Axumite kingdom and destroyed Abyssinia.

But men! They have been behind all the mayhem in the world. In our region, there were the so-called Solomonic kings, who didn’t build a hut during the centuries they ruled the region. They just waged wars, invaded other people and destroyed every place they set foot on.

So, who inspired highway robbers and assassins? The ancestors, abowatom!

The ancestor worshippers claim they follow the local religions, don’t believe them. They are ancestor worshippers who endlessly ignite civil strife, chaos and instability.

I wish the ancestor worshippers would assess their current state of affairs objectively, they might be humbled by the sad reality. Very few homes have toilets, running water, or sewage systems.

People should be able to critique their societies boldly; unless they do that, they could remain stuck in ancestral worship, in the primitive ages, while the world advances leaving them behind where catching up would be impossible.

A politically healthy nation can be stable and focuses on the wellbeing of the people. A politically corrupt nation moves nowhere but worships its ancestors and their way of life, ignoring modernity and development in all aspects of life. Those who are infatuated with ancestral worship are a hindrance in our attempt to break free from backwardness and instead look to the future. They have become a dead weight dragging us back to darkness.

Ancestor worshippers always submitted to servitude—they even had a supposedly wise saying, “znegese ngusna zbereqe tsaHaina.” Staying loyal to that destructive “wisdom” they submitted to brutal bullies and warlords. They were not inspired to fight for their freedom. They had no history of struggling for liberation but to replace one lord with another. Clinging to that culture has weakened our resolve to fight the current oppressive regime.

Every generation draws from the established culture and builds on it. Every generation should discard the crippling aspects of their culture and take it to a higher level of respecting life and working for the prosperity, peace and freedom of the people. Those who want to remain stuck in the stone ages because that’s how our ancestors lived, want societies to commit national suicide.

Therefore, we can overcome our difficulties and find a solution for them only if we admit our weaknesses and shortcoming.

Ancestral worshippers like to be defined by what they hate not by what they love. And we know hate kills the empathy and sympathy in one’s self before killing others. It’s said that empathy is caused by the environment where one grows, or by some sort of disease, or “physical or psychological damage and trauma related to an event.” Psychologists have a term associated with it: sociopathy and psychopathy. And we see that foolishly declared and displayed by many people.

But the current hardship has come to pass and the empty bravado of the ancestor worshippers will end. Eritreans are determined to fight the savagery and violence of the dark forces who thrive in murky waters. And murky waters have created (and are sustaining) the prevailing oppression in Eritrea. We have to stay focused and choose our fights. At this moment we have two fronts: the oppression at home and the forces of disarray who have sneaked in our ranks—and their enablers who are being exposed by the day. We will prevail, never give up. We will be victorious simply because we fight for freedom and life while they fight for subjugation and death. We fight for stability, peace, and liberation. They fight for instability, chaos and oppression. And it will be a hopeful and exhilarating dawn in Eritrea, the rooster never lies.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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  • Nitricc

    It is amazing! none of the so called Eritreans ever mentioned about the martyrs day of Eritrea. Normally i am the one who brings and honors about June 20. This year i haven’t because i just wanted to see who brings it up and no one did. I can understand if you have problem with government and hate the government. I can understand if you hate the current armed forces. I can understand if your other Tigryan half got the best of you. What i don’t understand is, what is your beef with the dead? He-she died for you so you can have a fatty azz, over the roof cholesterol and high blood pressure due to over indulging while the martyrs hardly eat and drink. they died starved, thirsty and in pain. luckily, not every one is like you, ignorant and thankless hyena. there are far, far away intelligent people who acknowledge and admire the selfless Eritrean martyrs.

    On martyrs day my humble plea to you is to honour your martyrs not as good Heroes, however as flawed the ‘each man’ and ‘each lady’ who dug deep to search out in themselves the true gold which lies buried deep within the coronary heart of each particular person alive: their very own braveness, love, inspiration, resourcefulness, dedication and dedication – and did it collectively. Let not their remembrance place an not possible burden upon the following era. For now’s the time to look to the longer term and look to contemporary minds to discover a technique to think about one thing apart from a world disaster.

    And the fourth, and most essential, stone of all is the earth itself, your piece of our residence planet. Eritrea is a rustic of an incredible wealth of pure assets. While people have born the war- and sanctions- imposed penalty of financial hardship, the plant animal and mineral life that includes the nation’s ecosystem has flourished quietly, grateful for the relative absence of polluting and exploitative violation of its proper to coexist peacefully with the human species.

    Your unspoilt Purple Sea shoreline has been a haven for hundreds of sea life species. Mining has not but hopelessly poisoned the water desk. Your air remains to be breathable. Your soil has not but been completely degraded by the mass industrial use of fertiliser pesticides herbicides, your animal herds not but completely poisoned by widespread use and abuse of hormones and antibiotics. You’ve essentially the most priceless of all belongings within the land and species that maintain the variety of life. You eat goodness. Your immune methods are more healthy from good diet, daylight and train. Please bear in mind this when the promise of speedy ‘improvement’ turns into an imminent actuality. Be ready to enter the worth of the earth and her assets as ‘infinite’ and ‘indispensable’ in your cost-benefit spreadsheets. Work together with her and she is going to reward you.

    read in full in here
    https://www.africazilla.com/message-of-solidarity-to-the-eritrean-people/

    • Hashela

      Selam Nitricc

      In the Jebena section, there are several poems acknowledging and commemorating June 20

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Amanuel Hidrat

    I’m really sorry to hear that your wife has passed away; my heart goes out to you and your family. I know these past months have been very challenging months for you and your family. Just stay strong!

    Semere Tesfai

    • Nitricc

      Hey Semere; I am not sure about this news because of its sources. First, the sad news was brought to awate.com by gossip engineering LLC and worst he got the sad news from Assena.com. I don’t know how people can relay on Assena.BS but what do you need to know that Asenna.BS is nothing but trash? If it was true, SJ would have come out and informed us. So, my friend Semere, don’t fall for Asenna BS. I hope and pray this is nothing but the usual Assnen’s BS.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Nitricc

        1. – Nitricc: first and foremost, thank you for remembering and honoring the selfless Eritrean heros and heroines who made us proud Eritreans by sacrificing their precious lives. And second, thank you for your courage and thank you for being a proud Eritrean.

        ነቶም – ደቆም፡ በዓል(ቲ) ኪዳኖም፡ ናይ መጻኢ ጉዕዞ-ሂወት መጻምዲ ፍቕሮም(ረን)፡ ርእዮም ዘይጸገብዎም ወልዶም ቤተሰቦም መተዓብይቶም፡ ንብረቶም፡ ናይ መጻኢ ሂወት ዕድሎም ……. ኩሉ ንድሕሪት ራሕሪሖም – ዕሸል ዕድሜኦም ምእንቲ ኤርትራ ዝበጀዉ ስውእት ጀጋኑና፡ ክብርን ዝኽርን ንዘልኣለም ይኹን።

        መታን ደቅናን ደቅ-ደቅናን ብረት ከየልዕሉ ብረት ኣልዒሎም፡ መታን ደቅናን ደቅ-ደቅናን በረኻ ከይሰፍሩ መዋእሎም ምስ ተመነ-ዕንቅርቢትን ኣራዊትን በረኻ ሰፊሮም፡ መታን ደቅናን ደቅ-ደቅናን ካብ ስድረኦምን ፈተውቶምን ከይፍለዩ መዋእሎም ካብ ቤተሰቦምን ፈተውቶምን ተፈልዮም፡ መታን ደቅናን ደቅ-ደቅናን ደሞም ረሃጾም ንብዓቶም ከይውሕዝ ደሞም ንብዓቶም ረሃጾም ከም ፈለግ ኣውሒዞም፡ መታን መጻኢ ዕድላት ደቅናን ደቅ-ደቅናን ብኸንቱ ከይመክን ምሉእ ናይ መጻኢ ዕድላቶም ሰዊኦም፡ መታን ሂወት ደቅናን ደቅ-ደቅናን ፈቐድኡ ብኸንቱ ከይጠፍእ እልል እንዳበሉ ኣብ ዕሸል ዕድሚኦም ኣብ ፈቐዶ ኣጻምእ ጐላጉልን-በረኻን፡ ኣብ ፈቐዶ እምባን-ኩርባን፡ ኣብ ፈቐዶ ሽንጭሮን-ሩባን፡ ኣብ ፈቐዶ ነኣሽቱን ዓበይትን ከተማታትን ገጠራትን ቁልቁል ኣፎም ተደፊኦም – ንቡር ናይ ቀብሪ ስን-ስርዓትን፡ ንቡር ክልተ ሜትሮ መጐልበቢ-ሬሳ ቁራጽ ጨርቂ ከይረኸቡ በጃ ህዝቦምን ሃገሮምን ተሰዊኦም። ብሳላ መስዋእቶም ድማ – ርእስና ኣቕኒዕና፡ ጽሩይ ኣየር እንዳ-‘ተንፈስና፡ ኤርትራዊ(ት) እየ እንዳልና – ኣብ ኤርትራ ጥራሕ ዘይኮነ – ኣብ ምሉእ ዓለም ንኾርዕ ኣለና። ክብርን ዝኽርን ሞጐስን ንዘላለም ንዕኦም ይኹን።

        እቶም ሞሳ ስውእትና ዘስተናዕቑ፡ ዘናሽዉ፡ ዘቃልሉ፡ ዝዝንግዑ፡ ዝኽሕዱ ግን፡ ሕማቕ መዓልቲ ውዒሎም ጥራይ እየ ዝብል። እትምንታይ፡ ስውኣት ንመን ቀሪቦም ንመን ‘ሞ ርሒቐሞ!!

        2. – With regards to the untimely passing of Amanuel Hidrat’s wife, all I can say is (a) I hope it is all some kind of mix-up and false info (b) The Awate family who brought this information have done a terrible job. They shouldn’t have left us all in limbo (c) At least for me personally, since Aman was actively participating on this form until few days ago, and he has disappeared now during this unpleasant news of his wife, I felt, the right thing to do is send my sincere condolences to him and his family.

        Semere Tesfai

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          [ብሳላ መስዋእቶም ድማ – ርእስና ኣቕኒዕና፡ ጽሩይ ኣየር እንዳ-‘ተንፈስና፡ ኤርትራዊ(ት) እየ እንዳልና – ኣብ ኤርትራ ጥራሕ ዘይኮነ – ኣብ ምሉእ ዓለም ኾሪዕና ንመሬት ንረግጻ ‘ለና]

          ኣንታ ሰመረ ሓወይ:
          እምበርዶ ብጥዕናኻ ኣለኻ?
          ሰማይ ዝሃገርካ ምበኣር ኣብ ኤርትራስ ከምዚ ‘ሎ? በጃኻ መልሰሉ።

          ስድራና ከም ዓለማ ኣርባዕተ [የሕዋትን-ኣሓትን] ሞባእ ከፊላ።
          ደቂ የሕዋተን ኣሓተይን ገሊኦም ኣብ ባሕሪ ጠሊቖም ገሊኦም ኣብ መዓስከር ስደተኛታት ተሰዲዶም ገሊኦም ድማ ኣብ ሰራዊት ከርተት ይብሉ ኣለዉ።

          መናድቕ ገዛና ድማ ብ ናይ ስውኣት ባጀላታት ደሚቑ። ኣቦይ ኤህ! ‘ናበለ ሓሊፉ። ኣደይ ግን ስጋብ ሕጂ ትራገም ኣላ።
          ምሽ ዶ ኣድ ስዉኣት ኢሎም ክሓልዩላ ደቂ ደቅኺ ስግረ ዶብ ኬዶም: ኢሎም ናብዝን ናብትን የሰራጥይዋ ኔሮም።

          ነቶም ኤረትራ ሰላምን ራህዋን ኣለዋ ኢልኩም ትጽሕፉ መርገም ኣደይን ከምኣ ኣሻሓት ኣዴታት ስው ኣትን ከይወርደኩም።
          ዒብ ግበሩ።

          • Paulos

            ኢንጂኔረ,

            ‘ንስኻ ትገድድ! ኣቦይን ኣደይን በበይኑ ጸሎቶም ይብሉ ለባማት ከምዝኸማኻ!

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም መሃንድስ ምዕባልለ

            ነብሲወከፍ ኤርትራዊ ትውልዲ፡ ነናቱ ታሪኻዊ ሓልፍነትን ግዴታን ኣለዎን ነርዎን። ስዉኣትና፡ ነጻነት ንምውሓስ ዝተዋህቦም ሃገራዊ ሓላፍንትን ሃገራዊ ግዴታን፡ ብዘይ ምዕዝምዛምን ብዘይ ምቑዛምን፡ ብጥሙይ ከብዶም፡ ብጽሙእ ጎረሮኦም፡ ብዕሩቕ ዝባኖም፡ ሂወቶም ከይበቐቑ በጅዮም፡ ነጻነት ኣረኪቦምኻ።

            ናትካ እጃምን ግዴታን ድማ፡ ነቲ ስዉኣት ዘረከቡኻ ነጻነትን ክብሪ ሃገርን ተቐቢልኻ፡ ሃገራዊ ልእላውነት ኤርትራ ንምዕቃብን፡ ብኹሉ መዳያት ሃገራዊ ህንጸት ንምውሓስን፡ መስዋእቲ ምኽፋል ‘ዩ ነሩ። ሃገራዊ ሕድሪኻን ሃገራዊ ግዴታን ጠሊምካ፡ ኣብ ስደት ኮንካ ትቑዝም ኣለኻ። ኣኸለ!!

            ስዉእት – ንነጻት፡ ኣብ ጽርግያታት ምዕራብ እንዳዓንደሩን እንዳሳዕስዑን ኣየምጹእልካን። ንስኻ ግን፡ ንሂወትካን ጥቕምካኻን ልዕሊ ሃገርካ ሰሪዕካ፡ ኣብ ሃገራት ምዕራብ ኮንካ፡ ብኢንተርነት ሃገር ከውሕስን፡ ሃገር ክሃንጽን ‘የ ትብለና ‘ለኻ። መንገዲ ከም መጽዓን ይጠቕልለልካ።

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

  • said

    Selam Amanuel
    At this sad and difficult time .May god you patience and courage . Please accept my sincere sympathy to you and your family for the loss of your wife.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam all,
    Was having trouble in trying to log in. Just tried through a tablet, and saw very the sad news about the passing away of Amanuel Hidrat’s wife. May she rest in peace, and Amanuel and family get, this difficult time, the strength to work out this devastating grief. Really sad.

  • sara

    selam awetians,
    if what i heard is true …… my condolences to Mr amanuel and his family.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat

    ቀዳማይ ጸላኢ ህዝቢ ኤረትራ መን ‘ዩ
    ህግደፍ
    ስለምንታይ ደኣኻ ‘ሞ ኣብ ካልኣዊ ተዘንብል
    በጃኽ ኢለካ ዕረፍ

    ዶክተር ‘የ ትብል
    ባንዴራ ጽል ኢ ተንበልብል

    ምሁር ‘የ ክትብል ትምካሕ
    ኣብ ክንዲ ትምህር ትሓንጎልካ ረሳሕ
    ቁርሲ ዘይበቅዕ ሰልዲ ሒዝካ ትዕድም ንምሳሕ

    ኣብ ክንዲ ምሉእ ጠመተኻ ናብ ህግደፍ
    ሰብን ገረብን ዘርግፍ
    መሓውርካ ናብ ወዲ ነገር ትዝርግሕ
    ስለዚ ‘ዩ ድማ ኢሉና ፋሕ!

    ምሁር ደንቆሮ ኴንካኒ
    ከይስዕበካ ክትምህረኒ
    መሃይም ኴንካ ተሰሚዕካኒ
    ካባኻስ የድሕነኒ

    ሓሞትካ ጎዲሉ
    ንስኻ ኣነ ‘የ ትብለሉ
    ክብረት ተኔሩካ ክብረትካ ተበሊሉ
    ዝነበረካ ክብረት ኣይክምለስን ‘ዩ
    ህዝቢ ‘ንተ ተማህሊሉ
    ስጋብ ጸግዒ ዘይኮንካ
    ንዝተበደሉ

    ፊዚክስ ተማሂረስ የምህር ‘የ ምባል
    ታሪኽ ዋላ ቆጽለ-መጽሊ ዓጽኒዐ ኢልክ ምጅሓር
    ን’ታይ ክዓብስ ብዘይ ኦሞ ምዕፋር
    ኣለኹ ከማን ክትብል ዘይረ ኤናካ
    ክደሃኽ ህዝቢ ዓፋር
    ‘ሞ ንታይ ደኣዩ ፋይዳኡ
    ‘ቲ ምምሃር?

  • A.Osman

    Selamat Saleh,

    These old men who are assumed “wiser” have abused the traditional respect given to elders and instead of promoting peace, are set on creating rift between Eritreans….

    I think this video was one of the best …ZeAkhlom Hibkayom Ikha……Temahirkum Gin Resikaya. Dihri Zia Kem Humumat Hisobom.

    We are squeezed between two extremes, those who have rigid concept of identity and idolise ancestry and the hopeless who are frustrated and ready to handover Eritrea’s sovereignty and hard won independence.

    Regards
    AOsman

    • Saleh Johar

      In deed A. Osman,

      They abused the traditional respect and that is how pristine and dignified cultures are abused and contaminated.

      I wish there was no political correctness or decency when dealing with such scumbags. But one cannot afford to go to the sewer lines.

      I didn’t forget the closing statement “temaHirkum alekhum” maybe you missed it. The H in temaHirkum is as in Hakim not as in Haile–just in case 🙂

  • Brhan

    Hello all,

    I have always wanted to discuss the issue of hate speakers. I believe it fits now and here it is:

    Why do a person speak hate?

    1. Analysis of the person.
    Is it related to his or her personal experience. How the person grew up. Did his/her family try to raise him/her to be tolerant and friendly to “the other.”
    I would like to share an anecdote. There was a person who was racist to his co-worker. His co-worker was different than him in religion and ethnicity. At later time this person who was racist tells an interesting story. He had an aunt (from his father side) who married a man of different religion and ethnicity than her. His parents used to tell him not even greet his aunt. It was a taboo situation, then this person started to hate the man his aunt got married more than his aunt. The result: this person hated his co-worker because his co-worker was of the same religion and ethnicity of his aunt’s husband.
    In another anecdote, two neighbours of different ethnicity and religion used to quarrel of little issues and the quarrels gradually changed to hate. They hated each other and this hate was transferred to their two children respectively and these two poor children took the hate outside of their yard. Stereotype. There can be a lot of ancedotes but sufice to say that personal expriences have an impact on a persons attitude.
    So you invite a person for an interview, won’t you ask if this person has syndrome or biased stands. The first step in journalist interview is R E S E A R C H! I did not believe the interviewer did a research about his interviewee. Or if he did , then this another topic which I will discuss it at #4.

    2. Analysis of a person’s place/town/village
    Is it diverse? The more diverse the place is the more tolerant will be its people. Also, if a person lives in a community of one religion and ethnicity, he or she might have the impression that the whole country is like his community. The Dalai Lama says “We Tibetan Buddhists, for example, we remained isolated behind the Himalayan mountains; we had no idea what was taking place in the outside world”

    3. Or is it the medium?
    We are so frustrated by hate speakers and imagine if there was no social media, were we going to be the same? Then it the social media ( of course relatively TV, Radio & Newspaper) which provided a platform to anyone to say anything against anyone. So, which one is better to tackle the social media or the hate speakers? It is known that a lot have been said and even actions has been taken to make the social media more responsible in stopping hate in their platform, but so far nothing has been achieved significantly.

    4. Is it freedom of speech.?
    It is not, in our case , Tigray Media House (TMH) apologized about it, although it did not do anything against the interviewer who missed one of the most important lesson of his journalism school ( if he really went) which is, responsibility. Neither TMH nor the journalist has to do directly with this fiasco. It is not related to their freedom of speech motto. It is related to a guidance that TMH received it from TPLF. TPLF in its current policy to preserve its prestige in the on-going politics of Ethiopia, has put all of its cards on the table and is grabbing one by one to see which one will bring more gain to boost its position. The greater Tigray / Tigray Tigringi cards are being played not only by individuals or private media , like TMH but by TPLF itself. Then there is the Ethiopian card in all of its forms : Tigray as the heart or cradle of Ethiopia being played to amuse Haile Gebre Selase , the marathon man.

    to be continued….if comments pop up…

    • Saleh Johar

      Brhan,
      A very helpful addition to our knowledge; it helps us to better understand how the sick minds work and how they are inflicted by the disease of hate in their lives. Thank you

    • Sultan M.G.

      Ahlen Bikka Wo A’Sebbah Al’kheir Ya Professorna!
      Welcome to the club Ustaz Birhan!
      Late better than never!

      We are a bit late learning about this EVIL TPLF and its GROSS and OBVIOUS Evl agenda !

      I know well about that oldy racist TPLF TROLL BIGOT!

      Nothing surprising but it just confirms how far the EVIL DYING TPLF JANDA has gone …. to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans!

      No need of coded messages and ashmur but time to attack through coordinated and organized swift offensive against this Evil cancer to get rid of it for once and for all!
      The other enemies including the Amhara chauvinists have no power beyond their gurra but this evil janda has proven many times to be the most lethal enemy against Eritrea and Eritreans .

      • Brhan

        Hello Sultan M.G.
        My comment focused on analysis of racist( personal/demography). Why do we have racists from within, hoping someone like you can come with different prespective/s. I mentioned TPLF from the context of the subject but
        blaming it all to TPLF is not a solution. BTW TPLF was a friend EPLF-PFDJ and then a foe and you never know they can become friends tomorrow. …that is politics. Racism is not.

        • Sultan M.G.

          Selam. Than:
          Don’t run away!
          I focused on TPLF coz u admitted that the TPLF is behind the old racist bigot !
          I am not blaming just the TPLF but all the enemies of Eritrea!
          I have deplored the PFDJ Regime and its deplorable acts as I have done to the TPLF.
          What do u call that a narrow-minded Islamophobic oldy bigot?

          U r the one, who has been blaming the PFDJ only as a sole problem of Eritrea when in fact, when that same regime has been a victim of our other enemies, including the same JANDA and its Masters!

          If u don’t accept that hardcore fact and truth then you are not an honest Eritrean, to say the least!

          That oldy BIGOT is a Racist from the contextual meaning of racism!

          Race is not only defined by the color of the skin but by the action of that Color/and actor!

          • Brhan

            Selam Sultan M.G.
            Again I am inviting you to come with new perspectives, the TPLF perspective is an old new issue (ዓሻስ ሓደ ደርፉ). We know it . What about if you think about any scientific approach that explains how and why the bigots rise?

          • Sultan M.G.

            Birhan:
            There is no new scientific approach !
            We have to tackle our problems and obstacles by all means possible.
            Our enemies abd their tactics are same old news ones!
            Effective and efficient strategies is we are crying for!
            -The opposition should come clean, neutral, independent and reliable !

            -Eritreans do NOT need any external interference if external support to do our business since we have proven it millions times that we can DO IT by ourselves!

            We are missing the YiAkil Movement Golden opportunity by victimizing ourselves for allowing infiltrators and our old new enemies!
            That oldy bigot is part of this infiltration!

            That is the old new science we have to apply on!
            -Unity
            -Independence
            -Resilience
            -Neutrality
            -Self-Reliance
            We don’t need any tactical or strategic Alliance!.
            We just need effective and efficient strategies and ways to unite our SILENT majority by putting aside our old grudges,ego,power hunger and region and religion based obsolete politics , which our perpetual enemies are taking advantage of!
            Blaming each other and other
            and pointing fingers at each other is not. a solution but a failed and rotten approach!

          • Brhan

            Thanks Sultan,
            Now we agree..you said “We have to tackle our problems and obstacles by all means possible.” Look at the last 4 words ” which Sultan M. G. wrote : by all means possible, the scientific appraoch one of the means. File closed, brother.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Hello all,
    I hope this is not the same Emma’s wife. I just saw this at Assenna: መርድእ ሓብትና ወ/ሮ ደሃብ ሃይለ – ብዓልቲ ቤቱ ን ኣማኑኤል ሕድራት

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes Mehandis,

      It is the same one,

      Have not you notice in Jebena page..The only great I have is Amanul and I have mentioned it Jebena page..that is why I was upset and sorrow..

      KS,,

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selamat Kokhobay,
        I am so sorry to hear that. This is really sad. We were happy he made it but now to hear this is heartbreaking.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Yes Handesa,

          We all in awate,com will be sorry for this sad news.

          KS,,

          • Admassie

            Selam Kokhob Selam,

            It is really a sad news and my condolences to Amanuel and his family.

      • Hashela

        ሰላም ኮኾብ

        እንታይ ትብል ወደይ? ንዓኣ መንግስተ-ሰማያት ንኣማኒኤልን ስድራቤቱን ክኣ ጽንዓት ይሃቦም።

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Kokhob,

        I am really sorry to hear. My condolences to Emma and his family.

        Berhe

    • Paulos

      ኢንጂኔረ,

      I am really really sorry to hear that. My deepest condolences. My heart goes out to him and to his family. May God walk him through this difficult time with all the strength he needs.

      Emma hawey if you are reading this: Be strong and my prayers are with you. I have grown to know you over the years more than I would have known you in person. Again, be strong and give all to God, the God who had sustained you with strength when you went through the challenges in your recent personal struggles including the pandemic. God bless!

    • Haile S.

      Mehandis,
      Sad and tough day for Emma and his family. My condolences to them.

    • Abi

      Hello MM
      አምላክ ወ/ሮ ደሃብን ከጎኑ ያኑርልን::
      በዚህ ፈታኝ ሰአት ለአቶ አማኑኤል ቤተሠብ ብርታትና መፅናናትን አብዝቶ ይስጥልን::

    • A.Osman

      Selam Mehandis,

      Really sorry to hear this bad news and my condolences to Emma and family. May God give them patience during this difficult times.

      To Him we belong and to Him we all will return.

      Regards
      AOsman

    • Brhan

      Hello Mehandis

      A very sad news. My sincere sympathies to Emms and his family.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam MM,

      Thank you for telling us.

      May God bless her memory, and give strength to her family and relatives.

  • Hashela

    Selam Saleh

    ድይትሓፍር መርዓት’ስ ነዲአ ሕርሲ ትምህር ከይኮውን እምበር: ናይ ሎሚ አስተምህሮ ብጣሚ ጽቡቕ ጌርካ አቕሩብካዮ። መቸም ዋላ’ቲ ድኸፍኤ ሕማም ጠቓሚ ነገር እአለዎ። መኽንያቱ ናይ ወያኒ አእዕናዊ ተፈጥሮ እንዳበሃልካ ድመጽእ እዩ ድመስል ደሎ።

    • Saleh Johar

      Hashela,
      No. I was not foolish when it comes to what ails our regional politics but I didn’t like to go tribal and regional on it. And you will never catch me uttering racist and bigoted classifications like “Agame”. Etc. that discourse is all dark and can never be “Berhan” as you hinted.

      I like you and admire you as an educated intellectual but sometimes I am disappointed when educated people advance the politics of chegwar danga instead of taming it. That is my problem dear Hashela. Ajaaka

      • Hashela

        Selam Saleh

        The admiration is mutual. I like your humor, knowledge, and wisdom. I do not harbour animosity against the Tigrayan People and never use bigoted classification against the Tigrayan people, and you know that. However, I do not hesitate to mention, highlight, and debate the deeply destructive nature of Tigrayan political elites.
        We lose credibility if we only focus on our home grown despot and his evil deeds and cover the divisive and destabilizing acts and activities of the Tigrayan political elites against Eritrea and Eritrean

        • Sultan M.G.

          Asenayka Wed Ad, Prof Dr Hashel:
          Welcome to the club!
          That has been EXACTLY the message of King SULTAN!
          Calling the spade a spade is but telling the truths s is!

  • Haile S.

    Selam Saleh,

    Eighty eight Negarits to awaken conscience and 88 years of proselytizing for Tigray supremacy undermining Eritrea’s Unity. Negarit 88 is a special Negarit. It will remain one of the best drums I ever heard beating. Unfortunately, it will also be a reminder of Ato Habtemariam blubbering about his twisted story on his 88th birthday. It takes time to comment of Ato Bokre and Ato Habtmariam’s blubbering, so let me go to your fleshy introduction for now.

    Saleh, you talked about one of New Guinea people’s practice of conservation of mummified bodies to commemorate ancestry. You deliberately abstained (disdained?) from talking about the Fore People from the same country that instead of commemorate ancestry by mummifying bodies, commemorate by smackingly consuming bodies to the bone. When a person died, they would be cooked and consumed. It was an act of love and grief. Please read the nicely written link below for more details, and consume with moderation 🙂 (kidding! don’t do it). The men ate the flesh, the muscle (greedy sex, always), the women and children eat the offals. Had we practiced that, it would have been a done deal. We eat them, and they would have been in us for ever. The pride would have been already consumed and we wouldn’t have the need to beat up chests and pick the Shotel in their memory everytime the hormones rise for a fight. I am not digressing, I am on the subject. Lets consume our ancestry, which ever way we want except by undermining and killing each other.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/09/06/482952588/when-people-ate-people-a-strange-disease-emerged

    • Abi

      መምህር
      እነዚህ እድሜጠገብ አዛውንቶች ምንድን ነው የሚሉት?
      እንደው ማስቸገር ባይሆንብኝ አጠር አርገህ አንጏል አንጏሉን ብትፀድቅብኝ ምስጋናዬ ወደር የለውም::

      • Paulos

        Abination,

        እኔ እንደተረዳሁት ኣያቶቻችን እና ኣባቶቻችን ከሞቱ ቦሃላ ቀቅለን ስላልበላናቸው የታሪካችን ክፍል ሊሆኑ ኣይችሉም የሚል ያለ መሰለኝ።

        • Abi

          ዻውሎሲ
          “ከባለቤቱ በላይ ያወቀ ቡዳ ነው” ይላሉ ያገሬ ሰዎች::
          እንግዲህ እንደፍጥርጥራችሁ ወዳጄ !በእናንተ ታሪካዊ የአበላል ስልትና ልምድ ጣልቃ አልገባም::

      • Haile S.

        ጀታው፡

        ሰዎቹ የሚናገሩት ብዙ ሆኖ በሁለት ነጥብ ሲጠቃለል፣ ብዙ የውጣ ውረድ ኣነጋገር ኖሮት፡ ጭማቂው እንዲህ ነው። በነሱ ኣባባል, በተለይ በኣቶ ሃብተማርያም፡ ኤርትራና ትግራይ ኣንድ ኣገር የነበሩ፡ መሆን የሚገባቸው ሆነው በተደጋጋሚ በኣማራ የተጨቆኑ እና የተገዙ እንደሆነ ነው። ትግርኛ ኣውቀህ እያንዳንዱ የሚጠቀሙበት ቃል እና ኣባባል ራስህ ብትሰማ ይሻል ነበር። ይሄ የለሱ የደስደስ ታሪ መሰረት እንደሌለው እንኳን ኣንተ እኔም ኣውቀዋለሁ። ኣቶ ሃብተማርያም ኣሉላን ስለሚያደንቁ እንዳትታለል ተጠንቀቅ። ስድስቱ ጀነራሎቻቸው ከተምቤን ኔላው >10000 ወራሪ ወታደራቸው ከትግራይ መልምለው እደመጡ ረስተው፡ ሰውየው ኣንዳንድ ከመረብ ምላሽ የተሰልፉ ተራ ወታደሮች እየጠቀሱ የማይዘባርቁት የለም። ስለ ምንሊክ፡ ኣማራና ሃይለስላሴ ያሉት ከኔ ከኤርትራዊ ተተርጉሞ ብትስርማው በንጽህና ኣይወሰድምና፡ ይቅርብኝ። በተቻለ ኤርትራን የሚነካ ነው ያተኮትኩት።

        ሁለተኛው ካንደኛው የባሰ የኤርትራ ሰላምና ህብረት የሚያናጋ በጣም ኣደገኛ የሆነ፡ እስላም ወንድሞቻችን ግማሹ ኣካላችን እንደ ሁለተኛ ዜጋ ብቻ ሳይሆን ዘለዓለም ተከራይቶ የሚኖር የውጭ ፍላጎት ኣስከባሪ ኣድርጎ የሚያቀርብ ንግግር ነው። ጀበርቲው ነጥለው፡ በሚያንቋሽሽ ቋንቋ መጤ እያሉ፡ ዝባዝንኬ ታሪክ እያሰባሰቡ፡ ኤርትራን ሰላም ኣሳጥቶ፡ ትግርኛ ተናጋሪው ትግራይን እንዲያቅፍ የሚገፋፋ ንግግር ነው። ኣቶ ቦክረ፡ ቀይ የለበሰው ከ YouTube ዝግጅቱ ቁጥር 54 ጀምሮ እስከ 60፡ ግብጽ በ1876 ኣከባቢ በነበረው የጥቃታቸው ጦርነት ጊዜ በሰላሚዋው ህዝብ ባደረጉት ኣመጽና ኣንዳንድ እናቶችን በፈጸሙት ኣሰቃቂ ድርጊት የተፈጠረው ትውልድ፡ በዳይ እያለ ጀበርቲን’ውን እዛ ደባልቆ፡ ስሙ ወደ ተመሳሳይ የትግርኛ ቃል ተርጉሞ፡ ሁሉንም እንደ ኣንድ ኣጸያፊ ተግባር ኣድራጊ ቆጥሮ፡ ማቅረቡ ነው። የቃል ጨዋታው ‘በዳይ’ ደ’ን ኣላልተህም ኣጥብቀህም እንደምትተረጉመው ሁለቱን ተጠቅሞበታል። ወደ ዴ ለውጠህ ይ’ን ትተህ እንደማለት ነው። ጀበርቲ ከድሮ በምድረ ኣበሻውና ባካባቢው የኖረ ሕዝብ ነው። There was no Jeberti-specific electric fence around Mereb that prevented them from crossing into what is now Eritrea. Yohannes did not unplug the current to throw them beyond Mereb. It is hilarious my friend!

        ኤርትራ የእስልምና እና የክርስትና ሃይማኖት ተከታይ ኗሪ ህዝብ ሃገር ሆና፡ ዓረብኛ እና ትግርኛ የኣገሪቷ ብሔራዊ ቋንቋ ሆነው እንደ ኣገር ከታወቀችበት ኣንስቶ የጸደቀ በሥራ የዋሉ ቋንቋዎች ናቸው። በተለያየ ዘዴ እና በረቀቀ ሴራ እስላሙ ህዝብ እና ዓረብ ቋንቋ መነካካት፡ ኤርትራን ኣፍረሶ፡ በትግራይ ለመተካት ካልሆነ ሌላ ኣላማ የለውም።

        ኣባ ትልቁ፡ ይህን ካልበቃዎ፡ እዚህም እዝያም ከሚጣሉት ሓሳቦች ተጨማሪ ማግኘትህ ኣይቀርም።

        • Abi

          መምህር
          ይከንክነኝ እንጂ ስትኳኳይ ስትገቢም ስትወጪም
          ያላዩት ነገር መቼም አይቆጭም

          ደበቅበቅ እያረግሽ የልብሽን ሰራርተሽ ብትመጪም
          ነገር ካልሰሙት መቼም አይቆጭም

          የቴድሮስ ታደሰ የድሮ ዘፈን ነው::
          ትግሪኛ ባለማወቄ እራሴን አመሰገንኩት:)
          ያልሰሙት ነገር አይቆጭም ብሏል ዘፋኝ::
          The two people are typical Agazians . Nothing new about these kids.
          እንጨትም እኮ ይሸብታል ጌታው

          የቀንየለይ

        • Saleh Johar

          HaileS
          Abi should appreciate this service. If I might add, this are the people behind all the mayhem in our region. They abhor peace (and Dabo), they would rather drink blood

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            እርስዎማ ጣል ጣል አርገውናል:: እነዚህን ሰው በሎች እኮ ተጋግዘን ነው መታገል ያለብን ጌታው::
            ነግ በኔ ይላል አስተዋይ:)

    • Hashela

      Selam Haile

      Interesting that the molecular structure and composition of the protein withstands thermal exposure.

    • Selam Haile S.,
      I can’t be sure where i read it, and i can’t be sure about the details, nevertheless, i think that it is said that after about 500 years, the genetic makeup of any generation today or in the past and their ancestors, are such that their is no more any similarity whatsoever between them, because of dilution of genes over so many centuries and so many generations. This means that any humanbeing could be equally related to anybody’s ancestors. An Eskimo could be equally related to our ancestors as much as we are, after the span of about five centuries. Therefore, speaking about ancestors who are supposed to have lived thousands of years ago, does not really mean anything whatsoever.

    • Saleh Johar

      HaileS,
      You always amaze me!
      In fact I shot a long segment on New Guinea but edited it out. As you can guess, I didn’t want to give the guys a wrong signal. I was afraid they would eat the first grandpa they come across 🙂
      I even edited out the hallow bamboo tube they cover their genitals with. It’s funny how all their body is covered except that part. Imagine our foolish ancestorslists on steroids of human flesh 🙂

      Thank you Hailat

  • Lebam

    Selam, Saleh.

    Great article about unity. The pride for our ancestors will remain, but the polarised society cripples us from getting anywhere. The solution is mutual respect, and to work towards a common goal. The narrow minded fools are fighting over sticks and stones instead of building our beloved Eritrea.

    People like yourself and others with a lot of experience and understanding will hopefully bring us together.

    We have a young German Eritrean by the name, Abraham Kesete Mehari. He is doing a great job preaching unity on YouTube.

    I have always wondered why we the diaspora that are construction workers, engineers, Dr’s and other professionals at certain areas don’t collectively travel to Eritrea and build the countries infrastructure. Does the Eritrean government not allow it?

    Lastly I want to ask about the 2% yearly income tax that one needs to pay to get citizenship. Do you think that there’s a possibility that it will be removed when we get a new government someday?

    Thanks!

    • Abi

      Hello Lebam
      I just like to say welcome to Awatenation.
      Eritrea desperately needs young people like you. If I guess your age you are about 20 years old. Most probably you are a college student in Sweden. I encourage you to stay around.
      Welcome to Awatenation!

      • Lebam

        Hello Abi,

        Thanks for the welcome. I have been visiting the site and reading once in a while, but I seldom post. I am actually just over 30 and graduated some time ago.

        The interest for our origin increases with age, according to many Eritrean/Ethiopian diaspora I’ve talked to, including myself of course.

        Have a great weekend!

        • sara

          wellcome. lebam wedi 30th,……
          lucky or unlucky you missed sawa before you graduated.

          • Abi

            Sariti
            Just called to say hello.
            ከሜለኪ ሳሪቲ ሽኮሪና

          • Lebam

            Selamat Sara and thanks for the welcome.

            I will avoid reading between the lines, because your question can seem to have a negative element to it (disdain).

            My answer is both. I am lucky to have not been part of something with no time frame and injustice, but I’m unlucky to not have experienced the brotherhood and being part of something truly meaningful. Sawa should always be mandatory no matter who has the power, in my opinion. It should of course be under decent conditions.

            Not trying to romanticise sawa. I just believe that every country should have a mandatory military service

    • Paulos

      Selam Lebam,

      If Aya Saleh becomes President I am afraid he will jack it up to 4% instead–his Fiscal Policy is outrageous. But if you vote for me, read my lips, no more taxes!

      • Aligaz G

        Paul,

        The quote is – no new taxes not no more taxes. Big difference even for a one percenter like you. But seriously if the funds were used wisely and responsibly most diaspora wouldn’t mind making payments.

        • Paulos

          Aligaz,

          No more taxes as in will keep it at 2%.

      • Lebam

        Selam Paulos,

        Hahaha, yeah. If he seriously wants to increase it up to 4% then I’ll vote for you. 😀

        • Paulos

          Selam Lebam,

          Appreciated! I won’t let you down. Help is on the way! Change is on the way! Pass on the message if you can—Vote for E.S.D.P. [Eritrean Social Democratic Party.]

      • Saleh Johar

        Paulos,
        Before I reply: Is that me, “Saleh”?

        • Paulos

          Aya Saleh,

          Who else? You’re the only Saleh I address as “Aya” and hope I don’t make you feel old for I address you as such out of respect.

          • Saleh Johar

            Mrhaba Paulos,
            Not all, if it’s not heavy on you, I do not mind it. in fact I like it because aya is an endearment as I understand it. And of course, since you were playing geza-geza when I was done with it way earlier. I do not think it is outside the culture. Thank you for that.

            I asked because you said, “he will jack [taxes] up to 4%” I was curious why you said that. Me becoming a president is very, very, very remote But for argument’s sake, if i was to decide, I would not increase it but will find other ways to get enough revenues:

            1) I would impose taxes on properties (landed gentry?) and leave the homeless and propertyless alone.

            2) I would introduce incentives where those who contribute to the economy would have rebates equal to what they produced (provided it is an added value not the usual rent-seeker income)

            3) I would let business segments compete and their tax rates would be commensurate with their production.

            4) import taxes on luxury items would be brutal, who needs a rolls Royce when a Corolla can do.

            5) Society should be able to bear the cost of education, health and care for disables, old and poor

            6) I would set up a commission of experts whose sole task would be to research, study and propose means of increasing national income.

            7) excavate and drill every square foot of land to extract what is inside and make sure nationals have a considerable stake in any such enterprise–be it drilling, mining, etc.

            8) Legislate a serious anti-corruption laws and build a large prison to house those who abuse power and steal from the national coffers. and legislate.

            9) The 2% would be scrubbed but cost of passports and consular services would go up.

            10) all of that is off my head but it requires a robust system of collecting and accounting for revenues–even if we had to adopt the old Marca De Polo–the stamp that must be put on any document if we cannot fine more efficient ways of collecting all the nation’s dues.Ot added value charges to be included in all the cost of products and services like the European VAT.

            I am a socialist or a capitalist? I am Sociotalist 🙂

          • Paulos

            Selam Aya Saleh,

            Not heavy on me at all. I take pleasure out of it for it is part of our culture to address our “elders” with terms of endorsements.

            I am really impressed for you scribbled the pointers right off the cuff.

            Number 3 makes you a Market-driven or Market-centered leader or a Capitalist if you will.

            Number 4 makes you a Protectionist with Eritrea-First verging on Nationalism.

            Number 5 makes you a Progressive and perhaps more of a Keynesian.

            Number 8 makes you a Statist and perhaps more of an Authoritarian.

            In the end, I am still scratching my head what to make of you with in the Pantheon of “Isms.” Have an idea though: How about “Joharism”?

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            One of the problems I see with the thinking exercise is that everybody repeats “out of the box” but in reality no one wants to leave the comfort of the despicable box. It’s as if we are destined to be chained by the isms forever, careful not to be branded this or that. Now remember the Scandinavians: whatever they brand them with, I admire their humanist systems–respect for the wellbeing and dignity of human beings more that Greenbacks. But a lot of our intellectuals will rather be caught dead than admire the Scandinavian systems for fear of being branded Socialists! And that fear of being ostracized or bullied is what is crippling our struggle. Many are terrified of the herd and would not express their true feeling. If that was not so, how would someone justify supporting an oppressive regime!!!!!!

            On number 8, it is not authoritarianism because I would also put authoritarians inside with the thieves because it is the worst form of corruption.

            But “Joharism” only you and a few like you would elevate it to that level; it requires a lot more than thinking loudly.

          • Paulos

            Selam Aya Saleh,

            Everyone of us has an audience. People who would want to listen to what we have to say or read to what we have to write. And of course the size of the audience varies. You probably may not know it but “Joharism” is already out not so much structured but people have an idea what it is about and it’s central theme as well. But I assure you it is far better than “Isaias-ism” where the latter is replete with bigotry, confusion and delusion.

            I would assume the Scandinavians understood something of crucial about human character early on perhaps because they were the first converts to “Protestantism”–it makes one much happier if you call someone or address someone by his or her given name than provide one with material things–History has always been the battle or the struggle for “Recognition” including on individual level. That is of course the central scholarship in Hegelian interpretation of History. And hence the by-word “Road to Denmark” where Denmark is the bench-mark where quality and standard of livings pretty much of any nation are indexed against.

            Moreover, to be fair to the scholarship of Americans, in the early 70s, in his groundbreaking “Theory of Justice”, John Rawls postulated that, inequality can only be accepted if it benefits the disadvantaged. I guess in that sense, one of your pointers makes you “Rawlesian” as well.

          • Abi

            Paul
            I see you are elevating SGJ to sainthood just you guys collectively worshipped Isu as God. Some things never change, I guess.

            I nominate SGJ for chief protocol to the president ( እልፍኝ አስከልካይ ) to enforce greetings (እጅ ማስነሳት).
            Don’t shoot. I’m just trying to lighten up the room. Take it as የለቅሶ ቤት ቀልድ:)

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Sainthood? As they say it in da hood, you’re trippin’. We’re talking about “Isms.” I never liked that guy-isaias much less worship him. The guy is evil through and through! But of course I feel sorry for him ያልታደለ ሰው ስለሆነ!

          • Abi

            Paul
            የኤርትራ መሪ መሆን አለመታደል መሆኑን አላውቅም ነበር::

            Watching soccer now. Two more games to come later.
            Take a break.

          • Saleh Johar

            Haha. Okay Abi,
            But it’s better than remaining a butler for a dead king 🙂

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saleh,

            I agree to all pouts you raised except #7.

            It’s the worst kind of economic development that leaves nothing but a hole in the grounds after the materials extracted that will never be able to recover in 1000 years for good use, after the chemical contamination they leave behind. It’s also the most fertile ground for corruption as no body can honestly control. I know your point #6 will be the guide but when you say “every square foot” it’s a bit a scary thought. I would say the opposite should be fine, first “plant and protect” every square foot of land and sea.

            I think we need to go back to the 1930s -1950s where the Italians made the country economic viable depending on agriculture, vegetables, fruits, livestock and I will add tourism.

            The weather, the beautiful sandy beaches, the proximities to Europe and Middle East and the gateway to the rest of Africa, plus the left over architecture of Italy and Turkey, and the mountains and landscapes should be our most important asset that we should tap in. And the pleasant and hospitable people, and turn our country heaven on earth.

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe,
            Each point has several articles under it. You just read the title 🙂

            Here is the expanded version:
            7A: every usable place whose underground potential is greater than what’s above it should be drilled mercilessly and the local region gets to reap the benefits before the rest

            7B: no private swimming pool unless we have excess water supply or production. Those who wish to swim can go to the Red Sea or to the communal sport and recreation complexes. Certainly no pools in hotels

            7C: if one cuts a tree without permission and for no reason, they go to the large prison. Harsh punishment

            7D: no throw away plastic should be used and build extensive recycling plants

            7E: every student must plant 10 trees every school year

            7F: all technical schools must be hand on and each school must build one Adi Halo pond yearly. With the students efforts as a hands on engineering class

            7G: promote simple natural and traditional abodes like Adobe walls and Hermona roof.

            Etc, etc.

            I was going to give the assignment to expand the points to Paulos and you. But instead of building on it you spoiled it 🙂 now expand the rest 🙂

            7D:

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            SaleH/Berhe,
            I thought I was dreaming. ኣፍኩም ይስዓር!

            7C: if one cuts a tree without permission and for no reason, they go to the large prison. Harsh punishment

            Prerequisite to this article should be the government provides enough energy sources.

          • Saleh Johar

            Mehandis and Berhe,

            See Berhe! That’s building on the ideas. Mehandis is now appointed the chief of the commission 🙂 he added a preamble for everybody to come understand the gist of #7

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat,
            The young man’s from Sweden, Lebam, asked interesting question and now you guys creating a road map.

            Was there any stocks’ recommendation forum at Awate before? If not, how about starting one. Who knows, we can generate some revenue for ourselves and we may share some % with this fine forum.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saleh,

            You have the whole manual figured out already.

            I still don’t agree on 7A point. I think there should be an exception if it’s fertile land. There is no price tag one can put how much that land / resources is worth today can put a proper price tag how much it would cost the future generations who are deprived of that land. This is not my subject of study but it should be carefully considered.

            No swimming pool even in the hotels? So we will never have 5 star hotels. This will not work well with my idea of making Eritrea a tourist destination (family friendly, that’s my first choice).

            They can and they should, but I would say, they have to get salt water from the sea.

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe, Are you serious? Anything can be properly priced, taking into account future potential, human and economic impact including environmental, etc. if leaving it alone outweighed drilling, the dig the hell out of it. If not, leave it alone. I didn’t say dog everything regardless.

            On the hotels, you can always build hotels on the coast but I see it a waste to build pools when you have natural sea. Besides, it seems you haven’t been Teavellung a lot these days. 5 Star hotels are démodé , it’s practical smaller room hotels on the rise. I learned a lot about that when I attempted to work on real estate in Houston for in 2016/17. Business travel has changed that is why the Hilton’s and sheratons has other brands that are cost effective and cater for the new breed of travelers.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saleh,

            The 5 star thing is to irritate Abi:) It could be any star, as long as it’s family and children friendly.

            Ok, we will leave it there.

            I started to believe that any hole that’s dug for minerals where there use to be trees / fertile land becomes usable and afterwords. Canada is a perfect example where the mining that has been happening for over a century has created ghost towns when the corporations have left to other locations and dig more without doing anything. In case of Eritrea, we have even more challenges because we don’t have much arable land.

            I am getting old, these days and becoming very cynical:).

            I agree about the beach and but we want to attract family with small children as well, who visit Keren and Asmara and they get to play with their children in the small sunny pools:).

            I hate to see the country becomes like other places…you know what I mean….

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Eritrea doesn’t need a 5 star hotel while Addis is an hour flight away:)

            Tourists don’t require a five star hotel at all. They stay in budget hotels. The big hotel chains have a cheaper alternatives. There is Hyatt Place by Hyatt Hotels, Four Points Sheraton by Sheraton, Hilton Garden Inn by Hilton, Residence Inn by Marriott etc. etc etc
            There are also several cheaper alternatives by Choice Hotels. These are too many to list.
            Tourists don’t need to count a star assigned to a certain hotel. They rather count the stars in the dark sky while walking on the pristine beaches. You know you don’t see stars in the cities. Too much light pollution.
            You have to advertise “ Free Star Watching “ on the beaches!!

            ምነው እንዲህ ድርቅ ያደርግሀል? አልፎ አልፎም ፈታ በል እንጂ ወንድምአለም! You are taking everything seriously.
            You are becoming the younger version of … You guessed right!
            Take it easy.
            Have you noticed you are talking about dabo only? That’s right!

          • Hashela

            Abi
            “Eritrea doesn’t need a 5 star hotel while Addis is an hour flight away:)”.
            I heard there is a hell in heaven for people with insatiable Schadenfreude and sarcasm.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I’m being nice here.
            Eritrea doesn’t need any hotels at all. Motels are more than enough.
            Go ahead, burn yourself. ፋራ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know what you mean. Let me tell you a little story.

            I must be 12 years old (I don’t remember) but we usually use to wonder around in the streets of Asmara almost daily between 6 – 7 PM venturing to other people neighborhood unaccompanied by adults but we just go, 2, 3, 4 or even larger groups. When I tell this to people who grew up in Addiss:) they are argue with me with shocks that’s not possible. That’s for another day… but there was a bus station near the Enda Mariam church. I think it use to be called “enda Abera Hagos” who was in the bus transpiration business and owned a lot of buses. So we meet these three people (two women and a man) and they got of the bus and asked us direction to some place where it’s far. Each had some carry on item and there was the three off us.

            So each of us carry on of the zembil (a size of shopping back) that was sealed and we walk. I don’t know why it didn’t occur to us to take them to a taxi station, but we kept on walking taking them to the location they wanted to get. We don’t even know the address they wanted to go, but the area (usually you end up in the area and you ask people around “do you know who and who house, his wife name is, this, he works at this) and right away people figure out, and say let me show, follow me. ,

            I think it was edga hamus or something, i don’t exactly remember, but we ended getting there and it was getting dark. So the people give us water and some qicha but the guests each open their zembil and give us Mango, not one per person but three each. I grew up in a large family even thought my father was considered well off by the standard, I was never offered a whole Mango to my self, if we do on a very rare occasion, I will get a two or three bits (may be every two years).

            But that day, I had three full Mango all to myself and we didn’t what to do with it.

            1) If we go home and show our parents, we will get in trouble because they will not be happy that we had such venture.
            2) I don’t think they will trust us that we go it for free, and accuse us of stealing.
            3) Suppose we are ok with the two above, then it means we have to share with our siblings and we will not enjoy.

            So we decided, ok let’s have one each first. So we indulged our selves with one. It was the tastiest, the juiciest, the sweatiest mango I have ever tested. Then the second and the third and finished them all.

            I hear now, the PFDJ has Mango, Orange farms, where they use the young sawa to harvest their farms. And the most majority gets exported to the middle east and some gets sold at a very expensive price in the city.

            I know the dollar/ foreign currency is all good, but I wanted every children in Eritrea to experience that kind of pleasure growing up. The hell with the dollars, and foreign exchange.

            So to get back to you, I know you mean, Eritrea doesn’t need 5 star hotel and it needs only motels. You also say the same thing about higher education / community college etc. I know you mean good but, WHY NOT.

            Ok, 5 star is not probably the standard for average travelling person, I was thinking a hotel with a swimming pool is a good idea, 3 star or what ever is the designation.

            I know when I travel with my kids, the highlight of their travel is, playing in the pool and playing in the sands and the hotel rooms… they could care less about the rest pretty much. If I drive them at night while they are sleeping and go to a downtown hotel and check in, they will think they are in the Caribbean and wouldn’t mind at all (a good vacation idea).

            I like the star gazing but also staying in a hotel and enjoying the pool. We can have it all. It’s those memories that triggers the brain to dream and dream big.

            If our people can only dream about going to America and Europe to experiences hotels, swimming pool, then that’s what they will dream on doing, get the hell out. But if they experience it, then they will dream of building it there.

            Eritreans have absolutely good economic reason to leave the country.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            The motel comment is intended for a passerby with a little salt.

            I’m always for the basic things necessary for living a decent lifestyle.
            Vocational training, community colleges, functional literacy , basic health care….. Everything basic including basic dabo. Yes, you read me right! Basic dabo .
            ዳቦ በማርማላት የቀበጦች ነው::
            I told you before that I prefer corn than teff, ሽሮ instead of ዶሮ ወጥ….
            We should stop eating meat altogether. It is economically unsustainable, environmentally irresponsible of doing business.
            We can produce more corn than teff per hectare. We can produce at least twice per year.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You would have made a very good communist Derg cadre. They come and nationalize everything and they started counting the family to line them us for dabo. 5 kids 5 bread with coupon. Then the dabo disappeared. They the started saying people need to dress the blue / eye poping dark blue clothes.

            Or you will make a good ባሕታዊ, is it (መንኮሴ) in Amharic in your old age, devoid of luxury life except eating ሽሮ እና ኮሮሾ.

            You forgot the human nature…people want to always want to have more and the things they don’t have.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Communists don’t provide anything. They take away everything.
            I think you live in utopia. I’m talking about Ethiopia. I’ve seen poverty in Addis. I’ve seen children eating fro dumpsters. I had university lecturer friends who could not afford to eat lunch everyday. I think it was totally different in Asmara since አብዮታዊ ደርግ provided everything with discounted price. Sugar was cheaper in Asmara than in Addis. The same to all basic necessities. Haile TG had a comment where he compared prices during and after derg.
            “ዛሬ ምሳ ታስቦ ነው የሚዋለው” ይባላል ገንዘብ ሲጠፋ::
            Since you grew up in luxurious life style, you detached from the society.
            መጀመሪያ የመቀመጫዬን አለች ዝንጀሮ

          • Haile S.

            ጀታው፡

            ወይኔ!
            ዛሬ ኣጋጠመኝ ኣንድ ኣማራ
            ሥጋ የማይበላ፡ ሰንጋተራ
            ጸጉር መንተራስ ለምዶ በበግ ተራ

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ፀጉር ስትንተራስ ዞማ
            ስጋ ሲያምርህ ጮማ
            በግ ተራ ስትወርድ
            አቅምህ ሲፈቅድ ልብህ ሲወድ
            መጥበስ ብቻ ጎህ እስኪቀድ

            I told you that I was so mischievous growing up. I think I found my match in you.
            You and I ልብ ለልብ:)

          • Haile S.

            Abi,

            Funny! I was too, but invisibly and occasionally. The only two times I was punished was once in 9th grade when I made a lizard with modelling clay and placed it quietly on the table of the girls sitting in front of me. One of them (Mehret) fainted, but recovered. I was not allowed to attend Math class for 2 or 3 weeks. And few classes banishment from Amharic class along with my friend in the same year where we never stopped from laughing at the italian military titles in the book, እንደወጣች ቀረች. You might have read the book is about the suffering of Ethiopian women reduced to prostitution during the Italian occupation 1935 to 1940. Our amharic teacher who was a highly respected Orthodox priest ቀሺ የማነኣብ (nicknamed ሸውዓተ ቀርኑ, because of his coptic hat) was so serious he hated to see us laughing because of some weird prononciation on so serious subject.

          • Hashela

            Selam Abi

            It is astounding the perceived loss of something Ethiopia never possessed presents a source of everlasting grudge, ill-wish and Schadenfreunde and makes you drop your mask of civility.

          • Abi

            Hello Hashela
            I’m sorry if you felt rejected. That is not the intention. I’m just making sure you understand that you are not the center of attention any longer. What is that you don’t understand?

          • Selam Abi,

            Have you heard of the unfinished so-called “Hotel of doom” in N. Korea, a pyramid shaped, 105-storey and 330m tall hotel with about 3000 rooms, a ghost hotel that remains standing unfinished and unused for decades? I have no idea why they started building it in the first place.
            Third world countries shouldn’t expect rich tourists from the gulf region or the west, because they have many other places to go to. They are not interested in trekking, swimming and fishing in the red sea in temp. above 40C, etc. On the contrary, they are interested in top luxury providing tourism available in so many other places.
            I think that the ethiopian hotel industry benefits from the fact that addis is the headquarter of the AU and many conferences take place in the city on top of tourism. The number of tourists is not more than 1m, and it has decreased due to the political instability and Covid-19. It has a long way to go.
            If eritrea joins hands with the ethiopian tourism industry, or any other country in the region for that matter, i think that it will achieve more, than doing it alone.

          • Abi

            Hello Horizon
            You are suggesting Eritrea join hands with Ethiopian tourism industry to achieve better. That is too logical to be implemented. Six or seven years ago I suggested Eritrean airlines can do better if it function as a subsidiary to Ethiopian Airlines. I heard earful from the nationalists. All I said was that Eritrean Airlines shuttles between the two capitals and the rest will be done by Ethiopian Airlines.
            Now you will hear earful from the ይአክል ጏዶች. Find shelter ASAP. You are practically violating the sovereignty of Eritrea.
            I was a bridge builder before I became a Wall builder.
            It is more efficient and less complicated to build a wall.
            Look how Hashela reacted to my comment above. He jumped on the less important stuff than the ቁም ነገር. I was discussing the cheaper alternatives for brand hotels that are known all over the world instead of building 5 star hotels.
            Build the wall !

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            We are brain storming and if partnering with Ethiopia make sense why now. One thing we should always put into consideration is, we do not have a desire to “steal” tourists from Ethiopia, Kenya or what other places. I believe each country and people have their unique culture and reason for people to visit them and spend quality time with. In case of Eritrea, we have the land, the cities, the history as well as the water and the people we can offer.

            This has been proven to be the case by almost 99.9% of the people that go and visit Eritrea. The problem in Eritrea is, the government who does not wish anything good for the benefit of the country and the people.

            Partnering with Ethiopian airlines would make sense to me, to provide a packages travel arrangements, for Africans, Ethiopians as well as people in Europe and middle east. Again this is not a favor from Ethiopia or it’s airlines but because it makes business sense. The Ethiopian Airline CEO said, when travel to Eritrea started, there are a lot of people who wanted to visit Eritrea but we weren’t able to do so until now (when the peace started). So it’s a lot for Ethiopia to gain as much as for Eritrea. But I must emphasis it needs to be done legally and mutually agreed on arrangements, no favors, no nothing that could lead into conflicts. Conflicts/disagreements can come but they should resort to lawyers and the legal agreements to resolve them like any other organizations and countries do.

            From Eritrean economic point of view thghough, we need to be able to stand on our own 100% no matter what. For example we don’t want our tourism business interrupted if a crazy guy like Abi becomes a leader and says “let’s build a wall” or another crazy leader that tell us “keep your waters and let your camels drink from it”.

            I don’t agree on what you said here…

            Third world countries shouldn’t expect rich tourists from the gulf region or the west, because they have many other places to go to.”

            Why not? Sure they have lots of choices but there isn’t any reason why Eritrea can’t be one of them. But our busienss model is not from the very small amount but an average European (middle class) who works and wants to go with his family for a week vacation to Eritrea. Right now going to Africa for people in Europe of the middle east of the US is like they have to save a lot to go there, like the Safari for example. But I think most of the money goes to the middle-person but not directly to the countries economy. In Eritrea we will cut out the middle people, just like any other European cities do.

            The biggest Investment that we need to do to start is:

            1) Invest in very high speed internet. It’s not as expensive as it used to be any more. This will help digitize the economy and making online hotels, review, booking etc available to the mass. We need the word of mouth and after than the people comes.

            2) Invest / repair the existing hoteling infrastructure. Those Italian Era hotels and building, and art deco and those in the Massawa are typical hotels you will find in Europe. We just need to give them a good face lift, with impeccable amenities and world class food and quality.

            3) Invest and repair the train track between Asmara/ Masswa and Asmara / Keren. The trains should be solar based, and pleasant with lots of frequent rides. Fix and build cycling roads, for those who want to experiences on cycling and switch to trains rides if they choose back. And mountain trekking for those who want the challenge as well.

            4) Tourists and key targets
            Eritreans who live in Diaspora and Middle east are the first target. Right now to travel to Eritrea (beside the airfare) is a very exensive and stressful venture. We want to change that. We want every family to plan their summer vacation, at least every two years, from 2 to 4 weeks.

            5) We also want Ethiopians to be the next tourists that can and we should attract. I think if Ethiopians come for annual visit to their country, we want them to consider coming to Eritrea for a week or so with their family and experience this amazing country and people and spend their hard earned US dollars :), before Abi builds the wall or going to Honeymoon to a place which is heaven on earth.

            6) We want the rest of African people to travel to Eritrea to spend quality vacation time with their families. They don’t necessary need to go to Paris and London and we want them to consider Eritrea as an option.

            Some of the wonderful ventures they will experience in Eritrea:

            1) Mountain biking
            2) Zip lining
            3) Scuba Diving
            4) Cycling
            5) star gazing
            6) Italian, middle east and African food
            7) Super safe (no hassle, no begging no stealing) and Super friendly and the most beautiful people with the most amazing smile on the face of the planet. Like our Ben-Amir boy.

            Tell me where on earth can you go to do all that, and do it economically:) in one trip. In Eritrea off course:).

            In America there is a holiday usually called, March break (during school year) and Christmas holidays.

            I think you are wrong about the temperature in the Red Sea (Massawa and the Islands) “They are not interested in trekking, swimming and fishing in the red sea in temp. above 40C, etc.”. Here is what my google search says

            Average “77°F (25C) to 100°F(38) and is rarely below 73°F(23) or above 103°F (39).”.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            I don’t understand why you brought the concept of stealing tourists. If we are talking about foreign tourists, for example, those who come all the way from the USA and Europe, may want to visit adjacent countries with one travel expense, which happens to be significant. It is of course up to the tourist to create his/her program.
            Nobody is talking about favor. It is about business. If the eal can play a role, that is working together. If self-reliance is the motto, then it will be an uphill travel for a small and poor country. In kenya and most probably in ethiopia too, tourism industries are based on some sort of cooperation with others, i think.
            The rich who do luxury tourism and are ready to spend 10s of thousands of dollars, are not interested in the history, nature and other things that interests the budget traveler, and moreover, i don’t think that countries like ethiopia and eritrea are in the position to provide luxury tourism. if they come for business, that is a different thing.
            You put a list of activities and you added, “Tell me where on earth can you go to do all that, and do it economically:) in one trip. In Eritrea off course:).”. The world is a big place with continents, islands, mountains, beautiful sceneries and nice and not so nice people everywhere, why should it be only in eritrea that one could find these things? It is good to think big, but at the same time at least in the beginning, it is better if one begins with a humble start and builds on that.
            Finally, weather averages in massawa for the months june to september are 41C to 39C high and 24 to 26C low, according to others.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            It’s all good and I agree to most of what you said. The point about EAL and all is, so what we build trust each other to help us over the “conflict minded” thinking we have. For me, I still find the cost to travel with EA to Eritrea very expensive compared to what others were offering, Egypt Air, Turkish Air.

            I do NOT buy it should cost 10,000 plus to go to Kenya or visit Africa. The plane cost should be the most expensive and everything else should be a lot cheaper compared to other parts of the world. In our country, labor is not not expensive, food is not expensive and hotel should not expensive either.

            And the airline, it’s not that far either from Europe and the middle east at least.

            So why is travel so expensive.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Why bother flying Ethiopian Airlines? As you said, you have several alternatives with reasonably priced tickets. You can fly directly to Asmara instead of going through Addis. It might also save you from a deadly heartache caused by transiting in Addis.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You need to make the ባሕታዊ application soon. You need to leave this earthy world:). You are getting irritated it seems to me. I never said I have heartache if I transit by Addis.

            We have been talking about war, useless ethnic politics, piece of land but instead we are focusing on development.

            Ethiopia Airlines is a business and it needs to make it’s own business decision how much it charges to make profitable business.

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,

            I kind of like the brain storming that is going on attracting and developing tourism in our part of the world.

            I think under the current environment of reduced airline business, hotels etc., the brains in Ethiopian air lines and tourism gov. office should gather the key components and players of the various countries of Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya and Tanzania and brain storm about the ” Ethiopian Air Cruise Line”.
            The current tourism can continue as they are. This is a special.
            This is a brand new program that adds to overall tourist dollars and it might need a year or two subsidies to make it a success.

            As a traveling group the tourists might feel safe and the cost is reduced per individual. Europe, Asia and North America is the target of tourists. Heavy smart advertising and a unique buzz management is essential.
            Egyptian pyramids , Sudan Nile based farms, Ethiopian original christian heritage, Kenyan safaris and finally Tanzanian Serengeti touches all the taste buds of the tourist before he/she boards the final flight back home from Dar es Salaam. The word of mouth and sensation eventually would have other Africans to beg to join.( and like the NFL or premier league football getting in will be expensive.)

            What the hell, if such a program for two weeks is available I might join the tourists too. The best thing is every country on the list will benefit from the additional revenue that would’t be there otherwise.

            Mr. K.H

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            That is a great idea. The problem is that the will-power and the political maturity for a region wide cooperation instead of confrontation are not there.
            What you presented above is a once in a lifetime experience for any human being. Unfortunately, politics of personal interest and not that of the common interest for the people and everybody everywhere rules the world, and of course our region too.
            Egypt doesn’t want to see a strong Ethiopia, internally tplf wants to rule forever and there is political instability, i don’t know if the regime in Asmara wants to be part of it, and as much as Kenya and Tanzania are concerned, i am not sure if they will be worried that they might gain less by sharing the same tourists who might have stayed longer, etc. Otherwise, it is a great idea, and maybe the right plan for a regional long-term cooperation in the tourism industry, that may open the eyes of other countries as well. Moreover, individuals and groups with money can participate with the help of governments.
            It was said by John Milton a long time ago that “the human mind can make a heaven of hell and hell of heaven”. Unfortunately, the second part is what we see in our region. Your idea is one step in changing that.
            Be sure, many will be happy to participate in this once in a lifetime opportunity of touring the whole region just in one go.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            You already started talking about stealing tourists and all that zibazinke.
            I already told you it is cheaper and safer to build a wall.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Lebam,

      The PFDJ does not want any body from Diaspora or inside the country to do something good that builds a society/ group that can threaten its power. For example, if you say I have water project that I will get to fund it and bring water to the village, after doing detailed check on you loyalty, they will probably allow it.

      But if you I am going to build a factory that’s going to employ 100 people and they will get paid living wages, with benefits, they it will be No, No. because that will show the people that there is alternative to life in Eritrea other than staying at the government mercy to even breath freely.

      A lot of Eritreans with good idea and willingness to help without asking anything back in return to serve, they just lost hope and returned empty handed or disappointed.

      I will give you a couple of examples. Saleh in his last YouTube (the one before this) spoke with Saleh Younus on the occasion of Ed and Eritrea independence. One of the things he says was, how he prepared derail marketing plans for tourism. He said, he was not even asking for democracy or election but to help build the country and make the living condition of the people better.

      Another example was the G-13, where 13 Eritrean professionals and intellectuals got together and wrote private letter to the president after the war. The letter was basically asking the president to chart the country to the right direction and take the opportunity to heal the wounds and resolve any internal differences peacefully so we come out strong and help rebuild the country. It’s a long story, I will look at the link and will share, but the government leaked the letter by his embassy in the US and made the G-15 as villains trying to hurt the reputation of the government and that of the president.

      He invited them to come to Asmara and discuss, and 12 of them went. After waiting to meet him for days, in the last minute where they decided to leave he invited he agreed to meet them. I don’t know for how long but it was a meeting where nothing achieved but basically accusing them for creating rift within the society.

      One of the elders Dr. Haile Debas, who read a letter representing the group said speaking for himself, that his expertise is in education and healthcare. And he said, he is ready to resign from his demanding job (he was dean of medicine at university of California in Davis at the time) and dedicate his time and energy in helping the country field in that capacity. It was a public record, and his salary at that time was 450,000 US.

      For me personally, that was a clear indication that this president doesn’t want anything good for the country and for the people. And since then (for me to see, others have known longer than that) he has declared war on the people and the country and he hasn’t stopped as yet.

      So where do we go from here:

      1) I don’t think anything positive will come out of Eritrea as long as this guy is in power. His whole body is stained in blood and there is yes chance he will allow anything to come out while he is still alive. He will take that to his grave and more so, he will leave radioactive buried inside the country that will continue to haunt us well after he is gone.

      2) I like what the young man you said is doing. But I think we need a bigger plan, and a manual, I personally think the G-13 letter should be the first but every year there should have been another meeting, bigger and wider and build the network. By now that number should have grown 100 times or more to 1300 sting members who will be ready to move and guide the country to the right direction.

      3) the 2% tax. I personally think it is not needed as a legislated policy. It’s very hard to operate in a legal manner in the country abroad. Instead I think, we should into looking investment focused vehicle where people decide to invest their money, as in retirement plan, like mutual funds, where people expect to cash in when they are retired or if they wish to do sooner. It needs to build the legal means that’s required to operate but it focuses in generating income and fund projects in Eritrea that helps it develop. For example, suppose it has 2 million dollars that it wanted to invest in Nevsun, then it negotiates a favourable terms and buy shares that gives her the ability to direct its resources to the country but it gets a good return as well in the future. But at the same time, it’s not limited to Eritrea but it can diversify and actively invest in other countries and industries where there is real opportunity to grow.

      Once it has good capital, it can partner with the government or other investors and develop development projects such as in energy, tourism, agriculture etc where it create a job opportunity for the people inside the country but it provides a good return for those in diaspora as well.

      But the key in all this, you build a planned opportunity that teaches people long term financial independence but at the same time build the capacity and develop the country potential.

      The key here is the country needs to be free and everything needs to operate legally and publicly.

      I would say, there should be some sort of national services for those Eritreans who are born in Eritrea to create bond and belonging but at the same time, gain meaningful experience about their identity, about their history and about their purpose on earth, by giving their time and energy to help in the country where they can provide the most, but it has to be voluntarily and there should be accountability and safety mechanism in place where abuse and wrong doesn’t happen or minimized to zero.

      As a parent (if my queen agrees, I am sure say I will go with them :)) I would be happy to have that opportunity for my children, specially being raciallised in the west, I think they need that sense of being aware if their identity. As a matter of fact, I think it should be, a mandatory to anyone who is black, specially in America, to have that experience going to Africa and become aware who they are as people, which will give them a sense of purpose and real understanding.

      The Horn of Africa, as being the gateway of Africa to the world, the government should think how to help the continent and the people excel in the opportunity, instead of making the young people dream of becoming refugees everywhere.

      For Eritrea I think it’s better days is ahead, specially when we have young people like you, who believe they can change the world.

      Sorry fir the wrong reply.

      Berhe

      • Abi

        Hawna Berhe
        Can I safely say that Saay is dabo first democracy last kind of person?
        This dabo first is getting traction!

        • Hashela

          Abi
          have you traveled to a rural part of China and India?

          • Abi

            Hello Hashela
            No, I haven’t.
            Why ? Is there plenty of Dabo for the general public?

          • Hashela

            Abi

            አንታ ነግራም! Let me clarify! I did not travel there for the Debo!

            But my layman observation is that there a stark difference between India and China regarding the availability and affordability of Debo and upward social mobility

          • Abi

            Hashela
            አንተ ምን እንደ walya ibex ተራራ ላይ ያንከራትትሃል? የወንበዴ ነገር:)
            Which country would you copy for a faster development ?

          • Hashela

            Abi

            From Abi‘ perspective: one time ወንቤድየ always ወንቤድየ. No staue of limitation!

            I am amazed and jealous how fast the far east part of Asia developed and is developing. I believe that their work ethics and discipline is a crucial factor, most likely cultivated over centuries.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I’m always jealous of any country that is going forward.

          • Hashela

            Me too. I am jealous of Ethiopia

          • Abi

            Hashela
            ስትሸፍትም ተራራ ስትዝናናም ተራራ
            አዳርሰው ሁሉንም በተራ በተራ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hashela,

            I know you have a lot of knowledge and experience with mountain trekking.

            I am not trying what we have with what Ethiopians have. I have very little knowledge of Eritrea and it’s land scale except Asmara / Massawa and Karen.

            Here is drone footage of Eritrea.

            https://youtu.be/LBZiqJDESr8

            1) In your opinion, how much if these do we have in Eritrea if you are familiar (or others), in terms of sq mikes / Kim’s, that would be ideal for mountain trekking and possible tourist/ attractions.

            2) Do you think we have areas where we can designate as “national park” where can preserve the land, the wild life (if there are any) and attempt to reforestation.

            I know what it can be a thrilling adventure, with some safety.

            https://www.redbull.com/ie-en/videos/asmawa

            Berhe

          • A.Osman

            Selam Berhe,

            Nice drone footage, so much can be done especially on water retention and conservation. At 1:40 that dry river needs to be dammed and a lake formed there…..lol talk about obsession with microdam.

            Imagine the development that we could have had on the red sea shoreline, cities could been built there. So much could be done by taking advantage of the natural landscape of both highland and lowland.

            30 or more years lost where Eritreans could have returned and helped the development of their country had they been left alone to live a normal life. That s 60% of the Italian stay and I don’t think they moved an inch from where they left….Talk about blaming Weyane for own failure.

            You don’t even need to think on a national level, just helping your village can go a long way in bringing about much development. What kind of hasad government have we got. I don’t get them even when I try hard to rationalise the way they run things…One that does not build, but is ready to demolish houses built without its blessing.

            Natom KayAkhlena, Hizbey Kea Xer Xer koyna.

            Selam
            AOsman

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Abi,

          I don’t think you will find any person who is not fir dabo first, unless that person is holding Dabo.

          You know the whole French Revolution was over Dabo. In our case, we are not even arguing which option is better. We don’t have Dabo and we don’t have democracy. In our case, our people ability to make their own dabo is curtailed. So it’s a luxury for us to have that argument, those who have Dabo can have that argument.

          But there is nothing wrong wanting Dabo and democracy at the same time.

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Glad you are with the Ambasha first group. I’m actively recruiting like minded people who see the objective reality.
            Welcome aboard!

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            The Good Book says, “…Man does not live by bread alone…..”

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            To say Dabo first democracy later is easy. The question is how do you expect the people to have dabo?

            I think it’s the French queen who said “let them eat cake”, when she was told the people are demonstrating because they done have Dabo.

            In Tigrinya there is a saying, ab kebdi Sugub yelen Tumuy, meaning “In a person of full stomach, no one exist with empty”.

            If the people wait for someone to give them dabo before democracy, they will not have democracy nor Dabo.

            Because in the stomach of those who own dabo, there is no one starving.

            Berhe

      • Paulos

        Selam Berhino,

        This is a well written comment where you articulated the challenges and the potential solutions as well. Thank you.

        Just curious though, what happened to the G-13? Where are they now? I see Professor Araya Debessai here and there and Dr. Asefaw Tekeste doing seasonal appearances and Professor Bereket Habteselassie writing books but the rest to my knowledge are back to their comfort zones where the Tigrinya adage ክውዕየካ ብማንካ ክዝሕለካ ብኢድካ is eternal.

        Perhaps Isaias to his credit already knew how far they could go as he owns a good judgement of character and hence he treated them like nobodies. If it was Abdella Idris or Ahmed Nasser, for instance, he would have soiled his pants simply because he knows those guys were lethal as they come.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Paulo,

          I don’t want to give Isayas credit he doesn’t deserve for his evilness. Their intentions were good and they wanted nothing but the best interest of the country and the people. The 13 are just a symbol but their ideas represent in the thousands.

          I know one Dr. Mussie who retreated and handed in and become a tool for the regime, but the rest as far as I know they continued in what ever capacity they can, such as Dr. Haile (who passed away), Petros Tesfaghergis, Dawit Efrem and the rest. Dr. Haile Debas for example, says in interview with I forgot from Asmarino, the dream of going back to Eritrea is currently on hold because it’s not possible when this government is in power.

          Let’s not focus on the personalities, if Isayas was smart and had good intentions, he could have cease the opportunity and take them to task, ok good and show me and I will follow. But he employed people like Sophia Tesfamariam and good for nothing “math teacher” dr. Gidewon, who last published any paper on math was in 1998.

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            I am not focusing on personalities per se but on a collective leadership for it was the first traction to where the G-15 left off. In fact, what the G-13 presented was dubbed a “Manifesto!”. Perhaps it was but my question is where are they now or more precisely what happened to the Manifesto when it failed to be translated into a mass movement and a power to reckon with. The cruel fact is that he is still there when they are not.

            Certainly new actors are emerging–the Yiakil movement, for instance, when the movement is not picking up after the G-13 much less it knows if the G-13 ever existed. There should have been a serious followup on their part despite the setback. And that was the point I was trying to make.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            Yes I agree. I think different attempt but not well coordinated and well organized.

            Mesfin Hagos and his party, EPDP have been some time of the organization who dragged and disintegrated the momentum, unintentionally, by making TPLF as a center of their conflict “you should go or not go to Ethiopia” was what started to weaken the opposition and Mesfin Hagos was the one who was meeting secretly with them but at the same time, stating others should not go. (This is the start of the spilt and counter split of the opposition) and followed with ELF-RC.

            We are where we are, and we should move forward and pick up the pieces.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Agree!

      • Nitricc

        Hi Berhe; If any real Eritreans were on the fence; Misfin Hagos has helped the real Eritreans to sway toward PIA. That was a huge favor from Mesfin Hagos toward PIA’s base. I don’t know who said it but the bed-death of Eritrean opposition is Ethiopia. So, No real Eritrean will side with toothless 80 years old who collaborating with arch enemy of Eritrea, the TPLF thugs. I understand though, the man wanted to get paid and he did. So, no hard feelings.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          I never said anything about Mesfin Hagos or going to Ethiopia or TPLF, so please don’t change the topic.

          Eritreans know what’s happening to their people and they don’t need to TPLF or Mesfin Hagos as a reason to support Isayas.

          Having said that, I think Mesfin Hagos going to Ethiopia and working with TPLF yo bring change is a bad idea and will not bear any fruit.

          If he convince the TPLF :
          1) to withdraw from Eritreans territories and allow the demarcation to happen.
          2) To condemn publicly the propaganda misinformation and disinformation that’s coming from different kinds of elements that threaten Eritrea sovereignty and integrity and dissociate themselves.
          3) make meaningful change to the refugees situation in Tigray and work on enhancing the situation.

          This will probably help gain trust for him and the TPLF and focus the attention towards the regime in Asmara.

          Berhe

          • mad mullah

            Hello Berhe, you make good points. Your post lead to Saleh Younis eritrea digest. He writes well and makes an important point about Issiasism.
            For all this talk about the G13 and other organizations- what I as an Eritrean never understood is with all the “educated” Eritrean and people that know- how come no one predicated or anticipated Issiasim. The reality is Issias is no different then any African leader that came right after end of colonialism in 1950-1960s. Also, how come no one realized that he would be worse than post-colonial african leaders- for example can anyone show me in human history where a semi-educated guerilla fighter or leader who spent 20-30 years in mountain returned to Civil society and became a greater statesmen or leader.
            You can’t even name one leader who spent more 10 years who returned to civil society to transform it. The closest organization or leader who came from backward nation and spent 10-15 years in battle field and returned to civil society was pol pot. There is hardly no difference between pol pot and issias… Another leader was Jonas Savimbi who after an election decided to back to battlefield to get power by gun again.. Lucky for Angolan people someone took him out with a couple of bullets.
            The only thing I remember from eritreans in the 90’s was they were saying they are not like the rest of Africa… “never kneel down”.. we are different..
            What was missing was they didn’t realize they were coming from one the most backward section of Africa… basically African Hillbillies..
            Going back to Saleh article… if you don’t know your enemy how can you defeat him…
            We are still talking about Mesfin Hagos and some of Gedhli generation folks… I think that is just a lost cause… it is same coin just different side…We have to come to a hard reality that there is large section of Gedhli generation that will not have skills and talent for civil society management. They can advise and push and encourage the younger generation… but they have no real role to play…
            They don’t know how establish institutions and things that civil foundation is built on… they know the army and war and that is it. They also want power.
            If we don’t start realizing these things and moving forward will be going backward.
            Here is hard reality if you ask me what part of America Eritrea and Eritrean resemble- I wouldn’t hesitate to say Scot-Irish section of America… Appalachia the Hillbillies… backward, combative…
            We should realize this and work on becoming the more advance section of united states like Boston with its history and university..

          • Aligaz G

            Berhe,

            Off the top of my head, Museveni and Kagame are two African leaders who were rebel leaders for extended periods and then become responsible leaders.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Berhe,
            I have been away from the forum due to some private reasons.

            The point you have raised is something to ponder on. Mr. Mesfin Hagos changing position now and then on his views on relation with TPLF or Ethiopia proper does not really measure up as a matter in itself. The matter worth watching is why the Tigray region government has recently been active courting people like him as well as some previously favored organizations within the defunct Sanaa Forum.

            Some quarters have been speaking about an attempt to design a kind of Tigray region sponsored Sanaa Forum that could open space for the organizations it used to favor during the defunct Sanaa Forum tenure to link with the Stockholm based ENCDC and add them up to form one umbrella.

            In other words, the TPLF government in Tigray appears to have embarked on reshaping the 2011 Hawassa Council for the aim of getting hold of the Eritrean opposition card on the face of Isayas- Abij alliance against it. As we all known, the Stockholm ENCDC has proven weak in representation as well as poor in leadership, which allows the TPLF to think about mutual need of the two sides.

            The point, thus, Mesfin Hagos sees opportunity supported by background relations with the TPLF leaders that could enable him emerge as a point man in an overhauled ENCDC sponsored by TPLF Tigray regional government. If successful, the TPLF could wave that card on both directions – south and north

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Ismail,

            It’s really puzzling why Mesfin Hagos now after so many years he tries to create alliance with TPLF, where their power is reduced to affect change in Eritrea.

            They are in survival mode in how to navigate the alliance of Abiy and Isayas and why he wants to bring the Eritrean opposition to the messy mix.

            What exactly is he trying to achieve? Dies the TPLF have a chance to come to power in Ethiopia so there is a chance of good partnership, in best case scenario, for TPLF?

            I am also surprised that he would go public with this information? Doesn’t he put the TPLF in very difficult position when dealing with Eritrea current government?

            I don’t know what’s wrong with those former EPLF, I think Isayas Afeworki devil still poses them even if they are far and free from him.

            I don’t believe it’s intentional but it’s like the Stockholm syndrome really is doing a number on them.

            At this point I think it’s just will create confusion so it’s better just to ignore them.

            Berhe

          • A.Osman

            Selam Berhe,

            Could it be;
            1. Since DIA made it halal to engage with Ethiopia, dealing with TPLF is not politically risky.
            2. By accusing the opposition in the past of working for TPLF, I guess he tried to look more patriotic, maybe he was banking on recruiting ex-PFDJ supporters, but failed to capitalise on it other than weakening the whole opposition.
            3. Not a major driver, but now there is a potential to recruit a sizeable members and sympathisers from the Agazian group. Tesfasion has made a number of fatal mistakes, he will do so in future too. EPDP could present itself as the alternative party as long as it relaxes on some of its old position and makes itself palatable to Agazians.
            4. TPLF is no longer in government, maybe they think engaging with a weaker TPLF is a manageable risk and they can now be considered a partner.

            After all it is politics, I don’t expect parties to stick to their old positions while there are major shifts on the ground.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Berhe Y

            Hi A.Osman,

            I think Mesfin Hagos and all opposition main focus should be how to free the Eritrean people from IA dictatorship. Dealing and thinking the TPLF as an alternative or as a partner to get rid of PFDJ is really not the best policy.

            1) I don’t think the Eritrean people have the stomach for it. I don’t think this will change.
            2) I think it’s interfering with Ethiopian internal politics. I say this because, as Eritrean opposition or objective is to work with an Ethiopian government who ever happen to be is in power. Eritrea is a country and it should deal any relationship based on future country / country relationship.
            3) As much as possible, they should use what’s available either in the international community, the UN, Red Cross, AU and others to pressure/ partner with Ethiopian government to mend ties and pressure the Eritrean government to change way.

            Other than that, all this Agazian, is just a bad investment and will lead to no where, if anything, the PFDJ will use as a tool to create wedge among the people.

            From Eritrea (the country prospective), Tigray is just one region/ neighbor kilil in Ethiopia. If Tigray becomes a state and our neighboring state, then we will deal with it like any other neighboring state. Nothing more, nothing less.

            Berhe

          • Desbele

            Selam Berhe,

            Why is it okay for DIA to hold hands with Dr. Debretsion in Tigray and walk like longtime friends? Why is it now big issue when Mesfin visited them? It is very sad DiA is the only person who can work even with the devil to his own advantage but others have rules of engagement.
            I dont think Your #1 holds true. Hundreds of thousands Eritreans are in Tigray and still go there. You have seen the joy between the two people when the border was opened. TPLF’s stand on Eritrea’s independence is time tested. Partnership with Tigray’s TPLF is long overdue. Partly because of TPLF. I believe working with them is a good decision Mesfin did. And he rightly pointed out that no one is worse enemy than Isaias to Eritrea- on his own words “ካብ ኢሳያስ ዝከፍእ የለን” . Better not assume what the people wants. We just can be sure they want to see change of governance that would change their lives. I hope and firmly believe that would happen when Isaias’s tyranny ends

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Desbele,

            I could care less if they hold hands or not, dance tango for all I care. IA doesn’t represent me or that I elected to be my leader and he doesn’t represent anyone body else.

            Mesfin Hagos is free what ever he wants and it’s not upto me to decide for him. But if what he does is on the behalf of the Eritrean people (which includes me) that I am have the right to comment. All I am saying is, based on my understanding, this is the wrong approach.

            Like I said, if the priority of Mesfin Hagos going to Ethiopia which also include working with TPLF with regards to the Eritrean refugees then that will help him gain some trust. But he said, I didn’t go to the refugee camps and I didn’t see them, may be he has a good reason for it and I am not judging him.

            Let me ask you, why do you think it’s ok for TPLF and Dr. Debresion to continue occupy Eritrean lands and the Eritrean people expect to make peace with them.

            Why is it not even possible for one person to comment on this?

            You can say, Badime is not important or it’s not worth is, but please spare me “TPLF want peace with Eritrean people” none sense.

            If Mesfin Hagos manages to topple PFDJ all power to him.

            Berhe

          • Desbele

            Selam Berhe,
            To your question,
            why do you think it’s ok for TPLF and Dr. Debresion to continue occupy Eritrean lands and the Eritrean people expect to make peace with them.
            It is not ok for TPLF to occupy Eritrean lands. But what then? Talk to them. Exactly what Mesfin is doing. Talk to them about the border, about the refugees , about partnerships and living together peacefully. There were problems resolved in peace talk with the EPRDF govt TPLF led: Cessation of hostilities, TSZ, Exchange of prisoners,…Why is not possible to talk to them and resolve the border issue? Because Isaias dont want it.

          • Paulos

            Selam Desbele,

            Here is a hypothetical–Suppose TPLF is eliminated and Abiy friendly leadership is installed in Tigrai, what would happen to the thousands of Eritrean refugees in Tigrai? The answer to that is not that too difficult to see. More over, in that kind of scenario, where would Eritreans go when they elect to leave Eritrea as they flee the nation on daily basis? Not much option would be left.

            As it happened, the other day I was watching a news item where good hearted Eritreans from Norway pulled 140,000 Birr [tonnes of white flour, gallons of cooking oil, hundreds of kilos of Rice and bar of soaps were delivered with the said money] and donated it to the Eritrean refugees in ሸራሮ where the Eritrean representative from Norway extended a heartfelt gratitude to the leadership in Tigrai for standing with the Eritrean people in their time of need.The refugees as well expressed the same feelings. But here of course, there is this parallel reality where the leaders in Tigrai are taken for enemies of the Eritrean people. It is bizarre and I can only imagine how any of the refugees might react upon reading the comments here in this Forum. The only power that is keeping Isaias in check is Weyane and Mesfin Hagos clearly understands that. I say, it is a brilliant move.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I don’t know why you are going around and address me if you want. No body is advocating fir the elimination of TPLF or anyone else, I know you didn’t say that but that’s what you are implying.

            Mesfin Hagos can go to the moon if he can bring change to Eritrea and save the Eritrean people from their misery. Having an opinion on his move doesn’t equate opposing the well-being of Eritrean refugees.

            TPLF should find a solution that puts the well-being of the Tigray people first. If the purpose of his going to a Tigray is to help the refugees all power to him and he should be commanded.

            Let’s leave the emotional trap aside and get to the practical scenario.

            1) What’s the TPLF trying to achieve by its alliance with Mesfin Hagos? What’s is it for them?

            2) Allying with Mesfin or any other opposition to IA is not going to peaceful solution. Short of peaceful solution is military solution:

            I) TPLF and Mesfin or other Eritreans allying to remove the PFDJ government by force.
            II) assuming is be is successful, then that party to hold power in Eritrea.

            Then what happens next?

            a) Is TPLF going to salt with Eritrea (new government) and remove the central government in Ethiopia by force and TPLF to come to power

            b) is Mesfin and the TPLF group create the Tigray- Tigrinya alliance and create new Tigray?

            This is a lose lose situation fir everyone specially fir Eritreans.

            1) civil war
            2) lose of sovereign and integrity of the county
            3) Continue conflict and state of conflict for Eritrea people.

            There is only one beneficiary her, that’s us TPLF.

            —-/—/
            There is nothing for Eritrean people except for TPLF. And they can do what ever they think they need to do but it’s not our business and we should not spill our people’s blood for absolutely yes value.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            I don’t have any problem of engaging you directly or anyone else for that matter.

            TPLF and the people of Tigrai do not have problems toward each other. TPLF is the most popular Front in Tigrai. That is the fact! TPLF is working day and night to improve the lives of their people otherwise they know well that the people will look for alternatives. Times and situations have changed.

            Isaias is the man who is trying all kinds of ways to eliminate TPLF and they know well that he is not going to let up till he achieves it and it is natural for them to fight him back including by forming a tactical alliance with any group who opposes Isaias including with Mesfin Hagos.

            I am not sure why you are obsessing with the Agazian clap trap where none of the TPLF leadership has ever said any thing close to Tigrai-Tigrigni-‘what ever that means. Instead they are standing their ground about their position on Eritrea’s independence.

            There is something called Tactics and there is something called Strategy as well. Mesfin Hagos and TPLF’s alliance is based on tactics for the former wants to get rid of Isaias for he believes Isaias is the only force who is holding Eritrea and Eritreans hostage. By the same token, TPLF believes Isaias is the only menace that is fighting them from achieving their strategic goals as in fighting poverty among other goals, for instance. As such, when they get rid of Isaias, TPLF and Mesfin Hagos go their separate ways for their alliance is not based on a provider and a server but on equal footing. Remember, rules of engagement have changed.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            I am not obsessed with Agazian but I know how different group from different corners are coming to stabilize the unity of Eritrean people and within the last 2 years it has intensified. I don’t want want Eritrea and Eritrean people become sacrifice lamb for the benefit of TPLF.

            You say “As such, when they get rid of Isaias, TPLF and Mesfin Hagos go their separate”. How do you think this can be achieved?

            Is this going to involve Eritrean people blood?

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino and Abination,

            TPLF’s negative impact on the Eritrean Opposition has not lost on him but he is intelligent enough to know the difference between yesterday and today. We are talking about here and now where the dynamics is completely changed. He also knows the cost of war and the life of any Eritrean is one too many as well. That said however, your guess is as good as mine on how they tend to work things out.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            Just last time on this.

            I see this venture negatively because we have been through this once and Mesfin Hagos and his organization they did a number on our progress, and I am afraid what he is doing may repeat the same and it will just drag our focus.

            I think in my opinion he should help empower the many active movement that are taking place and focus on Eritrean focused movement without mixing with other interests, such as internal Ethiopian politics.

            You say the TPLF is a powerful source within Tigray, but I can tell you, I have been listening to the Yemane guy he is a force to reckon with.

            He makes a lot of sense to me, and he is, I think a big threat to TPLF and their power. Unlike PFDJ Eritrea, there is some sort of.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            Well, yesterday, the Weyanes had more leverage to pull strings to the extent of weakening the Eritrean Opposition but now as I said, the dynamics is not only changed but new forces and actors are rising in Tigrai as well. The Weyanes however do not see the rising forces [The Opposition–ባይቶና፣ ሳልሳይ ወያነ፣ ትግራይ ነጻነት ሰልፊ] as a threat but as a strength instead for if they had muzzled and muffled the voice of the Tigrean people, they know well that it would be the end of them. And that is precisely the reason that they are relentlessly pushing for election to take place.

            The Yemane guy or Aregawi Berhe guy could say this and that but the reality on the ground speaks contrasts. And that is the reason they are not getting traction but the said Tigrean Opposition are.

            Perhaps Mesfin Hagos is tired of repeating the same tactics and expecting different results but twenty years on he is still stuck. He may have finally realized Isaias’ ball game and he wants to beat him in his own game when Isaias has always been owning the upper hand for he takes a hard look at the rules of the game.

          • Aligaz G

            Paul,

            Actually the dynamics have never changed. Same actors same narratives same mentality same tactics. TPLF has gone back to its roots in an attempt to refresh but it’s all a whitewash – lipstick on a pig. And so there are still many questions pending like: Has TPLF suddenly discovered rule of law and democracy? Lol. And more importantly if i were an Eritrean – Will TPLF suddenly stop being territorialy expansive or will it ride the Agazian wave to take over the Red Sea coastline? Very tempting. Especially with folks like you basically rolling out the red carpet.

          • Paulos

            Aligaz,

            Sure thing brother. Sure thing.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Berhe:
            Your observation and logic is spot on!
            Here is the background:
            Few yrs ago when the TPLF was in power, it did try to force Gen MesfinHagos “ at a gun point” in Norway to denounce the EPLF and the PFDJ and to work with few selected and hand-picked AgAzian Leaders ( names withheld) but Mesfin walked out telling them” I can’t denounce my history let alone the EPLF, since am the EPLF and my only enemy is IA”!
            -The few hand-picked AgAzian Leadership ( quite well know to Eritreans and the opposition) literally SWORN to execute the TPLF Agenda of the AgAzian Movement!
            -Amb Haile Menkorios has been actively involved to make a Tactical Alliance with the TPLF since few years while the TPLF was in power and even lately and he expressed it indirectly supporting the TPLF during a meeting with Dr AAA
            -Amb Andeberhan did not like the idea of the Tactical Alliance but succeeded in destroying the TPLF-sponsored region, ethnic and religion based Eri Opp Groups as an initial step of restructuring the Grassroots Independent Eri Oppsition Group free of the TPLF manipulation.
            -Amb Dr Andeberhan was initially invited to make a highly anticipated speech during the initial YeAkil Movement Conference in Washington,DC,but for obvious reasons,the TPLF -sponsored YeAkil Team blocked him!

            -Gen Mesfin Hagos was indirectly blocked (or BANNED FROM)not to be involved in the YeAkil Movement due to his Protest against the TPLF sponsored AgAzian Meeting in Norway!

            Conclusion:
            The conspiracy or idea about creating a Tactical Alliance with the TPLF in ousting PIA is NOT new.
            The TPLF invited Gen Mesfin now for the third or fourth time due to its desperate situation .

            Note:
            If the TPLF really spent $20 million to oust PIA, it is reasonable to suspect as Gen Nittric suspected or hyperbolically accused Gen Mesfin Hagos that “The TPLF could have allured few top Eri Officials “, since the TPLF is quite known for doing so, and will do so more than that to save itself!

            N.B.
            “ Ghenzebachin mesaria bicha sayhon sewwim ghezannibetal”!

            Courtesy of PMMZ.

            It was alleged that the TPLF spent $40 million to buy the Eritrean Officials during the 1998-200 war!
            This $ is separate from the $$ spent for the Mercenaries from Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia , and N Korea ( about 120 Soviet Era Generals, Field Marshalls , Advisers, Technicians, Military Strategists Pilots and Ukrainian Pilots and N Korean Heavy Artillery Specialists and Tank Leaders.

            The dilemma:
            -Is this Tactical Alliance realistic and feasible?

            -Can it be really for the best interest of Eritrea considering what u aptly said that the TPLF will take advantage of it to advance its long term agenda?

            -The impact of “ The unknown” on Eritrea’s fate?
            Very HUGE negative impact!

            As far as I am concerned, I consider this Alliance as a suicide for Eritrea!
            But if the conspiracy about PIA annexing Eritrea with Ethiopia is true, then am open for any option to kick out our despot before it is too late, which sounds too late!
            And presumably, the X-EPLF GIANTS are afraid of the alleged PIA’s agenda and, hence, label PIA as Eritrea’s Numero Uno Enemy to be ousted urgently!

            Am sharing this reasonably acceptable and reliable info / argument from reliable people / sources!

          • Abi

            Paul
            Last time I checked it was the Tplf leadership that obliterated the Eritrean opposition groups.
            ስልጣኑን ባንኩና ታንኩን በተቆጣጠሩበት ወቅት ያልጠቀሟችሁ ወያኔዎች አሁን ሲጨልምባቸው እንዴት ሊረዷችሁ ይችላሉ?

      • Lebam

        Hey Berhe,

        Thanks for a great reply! Does any other country demand 2% of your yearly salary since you started working to become a citizen?

        I like your ideas and in particular the investment part. Paying 2% of my yearly salary since I started working is a hefty amount of money.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Lebam,

          The 2% tax is extortion, as far as I can tell. There has never been any disclosure how much is collected and where the money is spent. It’s a means to extort money primary from those in the Middle East to give them passport so they have work permit. The rest is used as a tool to buy loyalty / preference with the regime.

          I know the US expects all citizens regardless where they earn expects to file their ncine tax. The reason is primary to catch people who try to void paying taxes.

          But it’s not punitive and it doesn’t expose people to double taxation. For example, if you are a US citizen and work in the UK and earn your making in the UK. You are expected to pay tax in the UK and even though you still need to fine your income tax, you are not expected to pay taxes to the US from your UK earnings. How ever if you have a US investment account and you get capital gains in the US or you own a property and earn rental income, you may be subject to pay taxes. I am not an accountant so my information is based on limited experience that I had working in the US, a while ago.

          In short, it’s not a blanket statement without accountability. But the PFDZ like to compare themselves with those people who go to them moon, and use this as an example for their justification. Little did they know the whole American independence movement started by refusing to pay taxes to the king who does not represent them, “no taxation without representation”.

          They way I would resolve this, those of you who do not have a reason to pay, please don’t pay unless you want to. If you do, find out where your tax money is spend.

          After the PFDJ is gone, the first we need to do is scrap this tax, and Eritrean should not be held hostage for being born in Eritrea or become Eritrean citizens. They should get all the services they need such as passport and visa as it’s their right to do so.

          For those of you who have paid in the past, the future government and people of Eritrea owe you a debt and they should try all they can to compensate and pay you back, just like any other debt Eritrea is required to pay its foreign debt.

          We may have to find creative way to settle this, as this is one of the burdens of PFDJ damage that we have to resolve.

          Berhe

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Hi Berhe,
        To add to your comments, there were articles from Dr. Tewolde Habtemichael [ex-ሳንጆርጆ ተማሃራይ], famous Nevada Democrat, and he detailed how Ambassador Girma and others derailed projects that would benefit the Eritrean people dearly. One time, he won’t even bother to meet those people who supposed to implement those projects in Eritrea and it was so difficult to have a meeting with them but Prof. Tewolde managed to do that. He said that he was so embarrassed by the Ambassador’s action.
        Not easy to search archived articles at Assenna though.
        BTW, Dr. Haile Debas was a dean at UCSF [not UCD].

        • Berhe Y

          Thank you Mehandis for the additional information. The PFDJ is pathetic organization, it’s like a dead fish that it stinks from its head.

          And thank you for the correction on Dr. Haile university. Does he still has the role at the university?

      • Nitricc

        The PFDJ does not want any body from Diaspora or inside the country to do something good that builds a society/ group that can threaten its power. For example, if you say I have water project that I will get to fund it and bring water to the village, after doing detailed check on you loyalty, they will probably allow it.

        Hi Berhe; is yours or you are quoting someone? if it is yours, please provide an incident where this happen. Do you know any person who wanted to start water project and the government said no? You know Berhe, you can’t just pull things out of your ass, proof.

        But if you I am going to build a factory that’s going to employ 100 people and they will get paid living wages, with benefits, they it will be No, No. because that will show the people that there is alternative to life in Eritrea other than staying at the government mercy to even breath freely.

        Again that is not true. I know a person who wanted to open a soap and detergent plant. The government gave the permit but he wanted it be in Asmara and the government wanted to be in Barentu. He asked for why the government insisted the plant should be in Barentu and the government answer was clear and convincing to people with open mind. The government response was that the plan is bottom up, starting from outside and going inside. if you ask me, makes sense. if you build everything in Asmara, you become like Addis Abeba, every one from every corner of Ethiopia heading to Addis And Addis became a city of crime, unemployment, prostitution and corruption to the highest order. I agree 100% with government of Eritrea and i hope government keeps it up.

        A lot of Eritreans with good idea and willingness to help without asking anything back in return to serve, they just lost hope and returned empty handed or disappointed.

        The Eritrean government never refuses HONEST and PATRIOTIC help. what is in the game is, pretending as lending and helping hands and turns out to helping the west and forgone elements. The problem is Africans who spend so many years in the west, think and act like a west. You may drive your car in the US highway 70 mils an hour but would you do the same in roads from Asmara to Massawa? of course not. That is the problem.

        I will give you a couple of examples. Saleh in his last YouTube (the one before this) spoke with Saleh Younus on the occasion of Ed and Eritrea independence. One of the things he says was, how he prepared detail marketing plans for tourism. He said, he would not even ask for democracy or election but to help build the country and make the living condition of the people better.

        Very contradictory statement. you can’t call for the head of the government to be beheaded and at the same time, pleading your only concern is helping the people.

        Another example was the G-13, where 13 Eritrean professionals and intellectuals got together and wrote private letter to the president after the war. The letter was basically asking the president to chart the country to the right direction and take the opportunity to heal the wounds and resolve any internal differences peacefully so we come out strong and help rebuild the country. It’s a long story, I will look at the link and will share, but the government leaked the letter by his embassy in the US and made the G-15 as villains trying to hurt the reputation of the government and that of the president.

        So, I went all the way sacrificing my life, my youth and everything i have for my people, yet, the people who abandoned the call of the country and their people to better and educate themselves , now when everything is settled, what moral ground do they have to talk about the country?
        to be continued

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          Since you like enklil (something that goes on round and round) in case you didn’t grow up playing with this kind of toy), I will give you enkilil answer.

          Do you know any person who wanted to start water project and the government said no?

          I never said they don’t, I said the might allow you depending who you are and your loyalty to the regime.

          The Eritrean government never refuses HONEST and PATRIOTIC help

          Like you said. Patriotic by whom standard, PFDJ?

          Again that is not true. I know a person who wanted to open a soap and detergent plant. The government gave the permit but he wanted it be in Asmara and the government wanted to be in Barentu.

          The government have the right to refuse and accept projects that fits it national policy. But the investor also have a plan they need to work with you such as cost of labor, cost of transportation etc. The issue with Eritrean government is arbitrary and it’s as the whim of the government. The issue is clear policy and guidelines as well as transparent and trust worthy. The Eritrean government have none.

          Very contradictory statement. you can't call for the head of the government to be beheaded and at the same time, pleading your only concern is helping the people.

          First of all I give the example, I don’t recall Saleh wanted anyone head. And this example was from the 90s when Eritrea become a government. And he was not asking to invest or do anything but provided them documentation and ideas that can help the country, without expecting nothing in return. Unlike you, who always accuse others of “wanting something” it’s show that’s not the case, in most cases.

          So, I went all the way sacrificing my life, my youth and everything i have for my people, yet, the people who abandoned the call of the country and their people to better and educate themselves , now when everything is settled, what moral ground do they have to talk about the country?

          This says it all. IA and his PFDJ sacrifice was to get to power and rule like king and nothing else. There was no call of duty or anyone refused to join, the Ghedli was voluntary to save the country and the people. In 1990 an Eritrean from Sudan asked IA, if after independence if he is going to rule by himeself and would not allow any political opposition / democracy to take place. He answer was, definite NO. So he was fooling people.

          But honestly, it’s not about wanting power. The power belongs to the people. The question was, if the citizens are abroad or not, not the lip service the PFDJ gives “our people” but it means “your US dollars” have the right in the stake of their countries and their people as per the “low of the land”.

          Berhe

        • Nitricc

          continued from previous one; let me finish this and i will get to your latest replay.

          One of the elders Dr. Haile Debas, who read a letter representing the group said speaking for himself, that his expertise is in education and healthcare. And he said, he is ready to resign from his demanding job (he was dean of medicine at university of California in Davis at the time) and dedicate his time and energy in helping the country field in that capacity. It was a public record, and his salary at that time was 450,000 US

          This I believe is true because i know his niece and she told me about it few years ago. This bad move from PIA’s stand point. He made a mistake.

          For me personally, that was a clear indication that this president doesn’t want anything good for the country and for the people. And since then (for me to see, others have known longer than that) he has declared war on the people and the country and he hasn’t stopped as yet.

          I can see why you think that way. When it comes guarding the Independence that was achieved through endless of blood and sacrifice, it is natural for you to see it at face value and to be careless but for the man who paid his entire life and witnessing his comrades die one by one, It is natural to keep things tight and close to the chest. It is easy for you to pass your judgement with out breaking a sweat and skipping a meal in your life. i get it.

          1) I don’t think anything positive will come out of Eritrea as long as this guy is in power. His whole body is stained in blood and there is yes chance he will allow anything to come out while he is still alive. He will take that to his grave and more so, he will leave radioactive buried inside the country that will continue to haunt us well after he is gone.

          There an assumption that if PIA is removed everything will be okay. Careful what you wish for. For starters, take it or leave it, there is no one that can lead, democratize, hold election, implement Constitution and able to transform Eritrea other than PFDJ. NO ONE!!! First accept this fact. if you disagree, give me a name? the truth is the entire oppositions of Eritrea are opportunistic, check Mesfin Hagos most recently, revenge driven and grudge full individuals whose sole intent is to settle a score. That is it! my point, believe it or not the only hope for Eritrea survival, redemption and progress the only viable hope is PFDJ! The END.

          2) I like what the young man you said is doing. But I think we need a bigger plan, and a manual, I personally think the G-13 letter should be the first but every year there should have been another meeting, bigger and wider and build the network. By now that number should have grown 100 times or more to 1300 sting members who will be ready to move and guide the country to the right direction.

          The country is on the right direction. After 30 years of war, then after 2 years of TPLF thugs offense, sanction, 20 years no war no peace era, losing every able body to PMAA evil plan to Ethiopian refugee comp, where shall i stop? You and your kind problem is that the Eritrean government plan is from rural to the capital city while you people believe should have started from Asmara and stop in Asmara. I know to you people Eritrea= Asmara. NO! that is the difference. I know why you admire the Ethiopian government because at the expense of the people build sky scrappers in Addis and you think Ethiopia is developed. I understand the African mentality. but what is right is right. And the Eritrean government have the right idea. especially like Eritrea where every Eritrean paid in blood and every citizen should be treated equally.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            You at least you admit one thing. By this I mean, at least you know some of what it said about this guy is correct. If you get speak to every niece of all the victims of him, you will probably admit them all. I don’t, I already know.

            There is so much blood that he has spilled including this comrades and the people who brought him to power.

            The bottom line is, weyane, Tplf, us etc is just an excuse. He is not fit to lead the country. Weyane are not made with Iron and steal..there is so many ways to protect the country and allow it to prosper.

            What’s next…brace for Susan Rice to be the next vise president if Biden select her and he wins the election.

            And in another 4 or 8 years, she will be the president.

            As far as development goes, why should it matter what they achieved in Ethiopia and not achieved. Why your world should revolve around Ethiopia and Ethiopians. They are doing what’s good for their country by their own people. I have no right to comment let alone criticize them, which I did and it’s not my business.

            Berhe

    • Saleh Johar

      Merman’s Lebam,
      I think the 2% or tax issue is a legislative matter. If you have a legitimate constitution and law making in a government, the executive has to follow the law. I am against the decision that’s is made by the executive hacks. Everything, not only taxation.

      The other issue you mentioned, if it was the only the few fascists I wouldn’t mind. But others who don’t know otherwise are following them on the despicable path of fascism. I am also appalled by the covert leverage they are getting from suspect elements with the three ruling parties of the region.

      Thank you

  • Aligaz G

    Ato Saleh,

    Habesha types vacillate between ridiculous levels of historical pride and ridiculous levels of self hatred as reflected in the article. This problem is made worse because the historical record is filled with huge gaps and inaccuracies – even recent history. And gaps make the politicization of history easy. Anyway the ancestors probably laugh at our assertions but the point is everything has long been politicized … including ancestors. cheers

    • Saleh Johar

      Aligaz,
      Agreed. Just don’t include me when you feel like insulting the bigots and racists. 🙂

  • Brhan

    Merhaba Ustaz Saleh,
    Well said…when they go low we go high.
    In another source I read the board of the media agency that conducted this shameful interview apologized: this is a big blow to Habte Mariam. It means he won’t have any access to preach hate.

    • Saleh Johar

      Ahlan Brhan,
      True one has to stay clear of their low level of discourse. I don’t want them to apologize but I am disgusted with the interviews who was ecstatic listening to the dirt.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Yes Dear Saleh:-

    This will pass too. No doubt this will pass too and we all will enjoy..

    KS,,

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Kokhob Selam,

      What a befitting nick name. Good always to read your conciliatory approach in all your posts. Looking for silver lining in everything is a challenge sometimes, but you do it constantly.

      It is not the first time that we have gone in to twilight zone looking for inspirations.
      This being a weekend after such weekdays of trying times in the world, why not.
      In fact, I am looking at a fairly new religion and exploring the possibility of joining it and maybe one day to rise up in the marketing hierarchy of the clergy. The name of the religion is “Ras Teferian”.

      My research is not done yet but I don’t believe they eat their dead relatives. No matter, a religion is a religion, if eating your dead relatives is proscribed, who are we to fault such an efficient re-cycling process. The only time it is a concern as an individual is when you are sick and relatives you have never seen before are visiting you with apparent concern about your weight loss..

      Ras Teferians, as a matter of ritual tradition, are heavy smokers. I stopped smoking 30–40 years ago and I don’t want to fight that devil again.

      However, my principal concern at the moment is if I become a ” bonefied Ras Teferian” and achieve a status of clergy or marketing guru or something, would I be afforded the same constitutional protections like the rest of them.
      Even right here at the University where so much more is tolerated, would my rights be protected. Would I face ridicule, bigotry, discrimination and down right blasphemes egregious insults.

      As I understand it, Ras Teferian is an upcoming and expanding religion specially in the colored community of the world. Why not, we need our own kind to believe in.
      What do you think? Please don’t forget the silver lining as well. See, how difficult everything is becoming. Have a good weekend.

      Mr. K.H

      • Kokhob Selam

        Selam Mr. K.H,

        Thank you. I came back..Just reply you..I was totally upset when I heard the news my great friend wife death..But then we all die it is just natural..Now I am comforted ..I had said in Jebena page that I will not say anything..

        My name was given to me by my late friends, kindness and prosperity was the reason they gave.

        See, K,H don’t worry about your back ground..that is in your not under control nationality, and your clan has nothing to do with spiritual journey. Nothing to do with this wide and long road.

        Why Souls Come to Earth is our nation and this journey a must for all being.We are all born in this life going to pass. And our body is just we borrow from the earth to experience and pay the karma of the other life we have been here in this world.

        Everything will pass even the what imagine all that is the journey till we clear our..Karma of the previous life..

        Earth is our school. We come here to learn. We come here to teach. We come here to help others. We come here to grow.

        I have spent many days and nights pondering why our soul would want to grow and learn things, but the answer I get back is always the same:

        Growth is what expands our consciousness and keeps the Universe alive. As we grow, as our consciousness grows, so too does the Universe. Have you notes that I am not agree and never give up..Never..Some time I may become up set but then I mostly come back with better solution. We have all heard that the Universe is constantly expanding, and this I believe, is only because we keep expanding too. Without this growth, without the
        pursuit of raising our consciousness, the Universe would die.

        While it is often hard enough for our human body to get out of bed to start the day, our soul is supercharged with energy and is motivated to do the work and make this journey to Earth school this is my today experience too

        There are many dimensions in the spirit world, but I have also heard from communication with my guides that coming to Earth is one of the rare experiences that our soul gets to experience individuality.

        On a soul level, we are connected to everything and everyone, but in human form, we are able to experience our own unique footprint a little more. We get to feel our separateness from the Universe.

        As Eckhart Tolle says, “we are the Universe expressing itself as human for a little while” and that is exactly what our soul essence, the Universe within, gets a kick out of when it comes to Earth.

        Our soul also knows that whatever tragedies and struggles that are waiting for us on Earth are simply temporary, as when we return to our pure form, and merge back into the Universe, everything will be ok and we will be whole again.

        We will continue Mr.K.H and sure we will make our journey more organized..

        KS,,

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Kokhob Selam,

          Sorry for the delay in my response.
          First, I want to express my sorrow over the loss of Amanuel’s wife. Through you, I hope my condolence and sincere wish for strength and grace over him is expressed. I am so sorry to hear it.

          I appreciate your long post response. I sometimes take a complex topic and expand it further to display…whatever.
          I read your post and read it again, I gained from it. You are a beautiful soul and wish you all the best.
          Again, sorry for your loss.

          Mr. K.H