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Major Dawit Invites Me to Dr. Abiy’s Addition Class

If there is anything Eritreans and Ethiopians (and beyond) agree upon, it is the fact that PM Abiy has stirred a seemingly calm sea. Undoubtedly he has inspired many people—he even made the stiff Isaias giggle and behave like a teenager. Of course, he has embarked in a grand scheme of adding anyone to his mesmerizing love-mix, and his aggressive quest for limitless peace has already created losers and winners defeating his “Medemer (addition)” formula, where his addition has become a subtraction, at least on the surface, kicking out some Eritreans and some Ethiopians. What an outcome for such a grand undertaking. So far, the oppressed Eritreans have lost round one and they reckon it is time for a rebound. And sadly, people of goodwill are anxious, thinking about the loss, which, unless mitigated, might drive Eritreans and Ethiopians back to the station they departed from almost sixty years ago.

It is mindboggling to see forces that wreaked havoc in the lives of the two peoples being applauded as peacemaker while those who have been promoting peace and stability, at great costs, being portrayed as anti-peace forces. Also, sadly, it has reached to a point where my friend Major Dawit Woldegiorgis, in his article of June 28, 2018, entitled “The Moment of Truth for Eritrea and Ethiopia” urged me and “[my] colleagues and other oppositions to the Eritrean government [to] see this as an opportunity for change [from] within.” Basically, Major Dawit is asking me to add (Medemer) myself to the mix. Unfortunately, I do not fancy elementary one-digit additions; I am preoccupied with my own seven-digit addition exercise.

My record, calling for peace and reconciliation, is well established and over the years I have stated my views clearly, repeatedly, and insistently. Incidentally, I have stated it in a detailed speech in San Jose six-years ago when I first met Major Dawit face to face. I still hold to those views, and I hope he and his many colleagues, the irritating elite, who believe they have a divine mandate to lord over the two countries, would consider my points which I will explain here for the umpteenth time:

The Abyssinian Factor

I am afraid that most Ethiopian elites have no clue about Eritreans whom they have been deafening with their superficial “and hzb nen (we are one people)” empty slogan. Disappointingly, what they consider as Eritrea is only its Abyssinians component (Habesha): Tigrinya speaking, Tewahdo professing, Kebessa dwelling. Though a Habesha myself, surprisingly, in their minds I am not included in that fold except as an appendage because I was not born to a family that doesn’t have the only worthy identity traits they recognize.

Historically, Habesha covered the Eritrean, Tigrayan, and Amhara highlands—it is narrowly defined as the domain of the ancient Axumite kingdom. However, due to historical developments, particularly since the “Solomonic dynasty” took over the reigns of power in Gondar, a topic so vast to be addressed here, that identity became narrowly associated with the Amharic and Tigrinya speakers of the region before it became even narrower to exclude some chunks off the stock. Today, while half of the Eritrean population do not identify themselves as Habesha, a big portion of the Habesha Eritreans are offended if identified as Habesha, because the PFDJ has inculcated the hate for the term, and they claim they are “Eritreans, not Habesha.” They even have T-Shirts displaying that negation. It’s so sad they have given up their identity because they abhor sharing it with the “Weyane” who have been at war with them since 1998.

Similarly, the non-Habesha Eritreans consider it an insult by the elite who would rather have them melt down into the Habesha, or worse, be treated as second-class citizens in their own country. That I know deeply because I was born and raised in a town that is considered a microcosm of Eritrea, my psyche belongs to there, and I know enough about the Eritrean layers of identities. So, I think it will be wise for the Ethiopian elite to abandon the racist Habesha-centric campaigning.

Major Dawit’s statement illustrated my point: he stated he was “in the Sudan where there are hundreds of thousands of Eritrean and Ethiopian refugees. They are one and they call themselves ‘habeshas’. I established the Eritrean and Ethiopian Association of Refugees so that it should make it easier for them to get funds and also enable them to protect their rights as refugees.”

Undoubtedly, I can surmise from the above there was not a single non-Habesha in the association he established. As he has clearly illustrated, his fixation, like the rest of the irritating elite, is Habesha-centric.

Tired of Repeating This

Throughout history, the bloodshed, violence, enslavement, and oppression were conducted by, and were a result of inter-Habesha elite feud and rivalry. The ordinary Habesha and non-Habesha alike had to pay the heavy price for the adventures of the Ethiopian warlords and those who inherited their hegemonic aspirations. Therefore, recognizing that fact and diligently working to bring a closure to it will go a long way towards reconciliation. Call it computing as opposed to elementary addition.

Major Dawit often explains his stay in Eritrea, his love escapades, and his career as a soldier, in a very sentimental way. However, he never wrote an honest appraisal of the atrocities that were committed on Eritreans, about the gruesome stuff I witnessed since early childhood. Certainly, atrocities and oppression don’t happen in a vacuum, but through agents who execute them. I will like to remind Major Dawit who the agents were: In the past, they were the king’s and the Derg’s men with guns, soldiers who torched dozens of villages, killed and displaced tens of thousands of people who are still languishing in refugee camps in The Sudan, Yemen, and Ethiopia. In the present, it is his friends, the PFDJ, who have imprisoned thousands of people and caused the exile of hundreds of thousands and are relentlessly wreaking havoc all over the place. I wish the elite could remember all of that—it’s the secret to understand the psyche of Eritreans who yearn for a closure but are insulted instead.

A few vocal elements like me buying into the retail arithmetic of addition cannot solve anything unless the refugees, the exiled, and the prisoners are added in numbers more than a few digits–when you add salt in a dish, you don’t add individual grains separately, you add it in bulk. Therefore, I would subscribe to Dr. Abiy’s addition arithmetic, when it becomes mathematics and helps in adding Eritreans in their own country—that will be the challenging math of adding in seven digits, and it will be an all-encompassing science. Worse, adding an embarrassing tyrant to the mix, a man who keeps subtracting tens of thousands of Eritreans every day, is not appealing.

I think Major Dawit should appreciate the distance his country has traveled since 1991. That journey, with all its shortcomings, is an impressive trip that has paved the way for Ethiopia to have a leader like Dr. Abiy. It is a journey that enabled parties to compete and assert their ballot box muscles, and it is one that allowed Ethiopians to debate their affairs freely, to demonstrate and express themselves, and it has enabled the prime minister to free prisoners and bring back exiles in droves. Disappointingly, Major Dawit, could not even shyly mention in comparison, the tragedy that Eritreans are subjected to under his friends, the PFDJ. He doesn’t express a word of compassion in solidarity with the suffering Eritreans while he displays superficial agonies over the lack of unity between Eritreans and Ethiopians, a unity for which his wishes lavishly flow like a wild beehive honey. For instance, Major Dawit worked closely with Petros Solomon in the eighties. Now his old friend Petros is languishing in jail together with his wife–did the Major entertain the idea of adding Petros in the Medemer exercise? I say that because I am not in prison and I can always add myself anytime I wish.

Just Emotions, Unjust Emotions

It is disheartening to see the elite urging the people to switch off their suffering-sensors so that they can be added in the one-digit arithmetic. Just disappointing.

In a shocking finger slip, Major Dawit writes, “What Ethiopians and Eritreans were waiting for was the right leadership.” I wonder why it is put in the past tense! For Eritreans, it should be in the present continuous tense. How can one forget Eritreans ARE still waiting for the right leadership!

Change in Ethiopian leadership doesn’t necessarily translate to change in the Eritrean leadership, even if the tyrant seemed to unilaterally delegate his dictatorship rights to Dr. Abiy, who gleefully accepted the offer! But regardless, I truly believe that positive changes in Ethiopia could become a catalyst and have a domino effect on Eritrean. I just wish the Ethiopian elite would be thrifty with their pontification and stop sabotaging the Eritrean struggle for normalcy, good governance, and yes, peace, with Ethiopia and every other country–Eritreans need to reconcile their books that are all in red, and that is their own mathematical exercise.

The fear that, “the accumulating anger would eventually explode and lead to [another 30-year war”, though expressed in a different context, will happen if the elite does not correct its approach to Eritrea and stop considering it a Habeshaland whose only significance is the prized Red Sea coast. The major missed that Eritrea more than that and veils the fact that the governments under which he served have tried, “a different approach both politically and militarily.” In fact, they tried all possible methods. Subjecting Eritreans to another adventurous cycle is just cruel. And I still do not understand how he can absolve his ally Isaias Afwerki and his Ethiopian foes for subjecting the region to a very unnecessary war that cost too many lives and put the two countries on a permanent state of war for over 20 years.” I suppose Major Dawit respects court rulings access to which is a click away—clear and not in finetext.

If someone fights against himself, he is either insane or it’s a surreal incident; like a tango, fighting takes at least two. Yes, “the Weyane wanted [the border war],” but the major conveniently forgot the PFDJ boss wanted that as well–the major’s one-eyed spectacles worries me a lot.

It’s dangerous to attempt a rewriting of history when one seems to agonize over the violent past: “the two people have been one and need to be one for more than one reason.” That rings hegemonic—why does the major reject the Weyane and at the same time salivate to embrace the PFDJ? There is a clear double-standard, and knots that he needs to entangle. I say that because he writes, “We have to work very closely with our Eritrean brothers and sisters to get rid of Woyane and establish a new era of peaceful co existence, common prosperity that will lead to a reunion of our people.”

Getting rid of Weyane is an Ethiopian affair; why would Eritreans be tasked with getting rid of Weyane when they have not been able to remove their own monster who is walking all over them? Don’t Eritreans deserve to be spared from getting involved in the never-ending Habesha elite rivalry? And it always has to end with a punchline: the reunion thing. The closure comes first, and reconciliation comes next—the hegemony that the elite advocates for in the guise of reconciliation, is misleading, is destructive, and therefore, as always, it is rejected.

Now that Isaias is all giggles because of the life jacket that Dr. Abiy threw at him, Major Dawit can promote the old idea that he, the Cohens, The Brutons, and the other dellalas were peddling for too long, to have Isaias, “take over the whole of Ethiopia with Eritrea [because] Ethiopians will accept [him as their leader of a united country and my colleagues and myself will immediately change our organization in support of this.”  They all hold Ethiopians in a very low esteem.

If I didn’t see the major’s favorable demeanor first hand, I would have characterized his description, “Mr. Saleh Gadih Johar who is opposed to Isayiyas and has been close to Meles for sometime…”, was a  sly remark. At least he got the first part of the sentence right; yes, I am opposed to “Isayiyas”, and any tyrant for that matter, but I wish the major can provide some evidence that I was close to Meles Zenawi? But it is alright, he might have had the urge to appear all-knowing—and that jab earns him a few points in PFDJ land.

At any rate, if I had “scathing remarks for what [he] have said and [have]have not.” I would like to bring to his attention that there is nothing he hasn’t said—his views are aligned with the tyrant of Eritrea at the expense of the Eritrean struggle for justice and to end the predicament of Eritreans, and usher peace. Obviously, he belongs to a group that is so obsessed with “Aand Etiopya”, that thinks of Eritrea as a real-estate with a beach font—regardless of its people who do not appear in his radar except their Habesha portion. Freedom loving, peace-loving and free-spirited Eritreans do not see it the way he does. In fact, the way he sees it is appalling, disrespectful, and a psychological aggression. Such messages of divide and rule were perfected by his successive governments, and by his ally, and it is rejected by the Eritreans I described above. Major Dawit’s type of Abyssinian elite are to blame, and the evidence is right in his article—it is one dimensional for a man who expresses his love for Eritreans and his knowledge about their country; it seems he missed the opportunity to study the social makeup of Eritreans and focused on vanities.

The Kind of Peace We Dream Of

Finally, I would like to reiterate that the peace I envision is not a “chercharo”, retail peace only focusing on trade and travel–that is a natural outcome of a just and lasting peace, not a cause. Eritreans, (with the exception of the chauvinists, the enablers of tyranny, and the narrow-minded)  are all for a peaceful coexistence peace and every Ethiopian needs to rest assured. And I have personally advocated for peace at a great cost, taking merciless blows by the hypocrites who are now trying hard to portray themselves as peaceful doves. That is why I do not take any peace preaching or condescending, paternalist remarks from anyone. However, the terms of peace that I envision are an all-inclusive, and agreed upon between free citizens, through their duly elected representatives, not by their tormentor.

Anyone can go ahead and make peace with our oppressor, but don’t expect us to naively ride the wagon or cheer from the sides or allow ourselves to be added as one-digit numbers. I cry for genuine peace among the people and one that practices a wholesale addition. I or my colleagues do not allow anyone to overbid us on our commitment to peace and its pursuit—we have suffered enough not to fully envision what peace feels like though it has eluded us for a long, long time,

As we speak, Eritreans who preoccupy the bleeding hearts of the Ethiopian elite are perishing in high seas and deserts. The remaining Eritreans are either silently dying a slow death or languishing in prisons. Eritrea, with all its components, is suffering and Major Dawit seems to be obsessed with the dream of the imperial hegemonic “Aand Etiopya.”

Related readings

  1. The Moment of Truth for Eritrea and Ethiopia (By Major Dawit Woldegiorgis, June 28, 2018)
  2. Dawit Woldegiorgis, More of Red Tears (By Saleh “Gadi” Johar, July 2, 2009)
  3. What Ethiopian Eritrean Friendship (By Saleh “Gadi” Johar, March 26, 2011)

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  • saay7

    Selam Abi:

    From anybody else, I would request that they pick a side and stick with it either (a) Eritrea should not have sought independence from Eritrea, but now that it has essentially agreed to a subservient role, I am happy; or (b) Eritrea should not have sought independence from Eritrea, but now that’s independent I want Ethiopia to build a wall. You have been navigating between (a) and (b), which defies logic but that’s ok because you are genuinely funny. Exception granted.

    And leave the great Emma alone: he believed in a cause and was willing to give up his life for it. How many people do you know, including the man who will greet you in the mirror, who can say that? It’s not his fault that he outsmarted HSIs National Security system 🙂

    saay

  • kazanchis

    Hello everyone,

    Very good read, Saleh. You gave decent perspective for people like me, Ethiopian, about Eritrean concerns. I’m glad you brought up Shaleka Dawit I listened to his recent VOA Amharic interview after the peace agreement; he claimed he understood Eritrea better and he also said things spiral out of control when he was replaced by other Leadership. I was shocked and couldn’t believe what I was hearing when he said Meles was the worst of a person and leader than Isaias. He even said they discussed Isaias to lead the two countries, but it didn’t quite work out. Hallelujah!
    Meles was not a cup of tea for the Dergies because he supported Eritreans right for self-determination. Period! He wasn’t an angel but he helped build a government institution still functioning well long after he’s gone, he left a better Ethiopia than he received in 91 and the facts speak for themselves. M. Dawit do not have any moral ground to speak on behalf of Ethiopia, Ethiopia are not monolithic but multilingual and multicultural; so is Eritrea.

    Abiy deserves credit for making the long overdue peace deal happen, there’s no wall to hide for President Isaias anymore. He should release all and initiate a healing and reconciliation process between Eritreans. As an Ethiopian, I can see Ethiopia’s interest potentially reinstated, but we need to be cautious and hopefully the old demons won’t reappear. But, I’d like to see an improved conditions for Eritreans, the businesses should be first given for Eritreans, not Ethiopians. It will make the good relationship sustainable otherwise the economic domination of Ethiopians over Eritreans would ignite new tensions and mistrust.

    Peace!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Kazanchis,
      Thank you. People like Major Dawit do not care about the old demons reappearing as long as they realize their hegemonic aspirations. But such aspirations have done enough damages already. They were challenged at a very high cost in the past and calling for mayhem again is just reckless, and sad. I just hope they fail in igniting the fire that burned us all the first time around.

    • Selam Kazanchis,

      Sorry, but i do not understand what you mean when you say, “the businesses should be first given for Eritreans, not Ethiopians.”

      • kazanchis

        Hello Horizon,
        I meant in any sensible country the most logical move is to open investment opportunities for local companies and entrepreneurs and then attract investments from abroad in areas where you can import technologies and expertise and so on. In Ethiopia, you can invest in areas that are allowed to foreigners; you cannot, for example, invest in banking sector unless you’re Ethiopian.

        To ensure sustainable partnership and cooperation we must engage on win-win approach, so that the cooperation can also satisfy our Eritrean counterparts. I hope this clarifies my point.

        • Abi

          Hi Kazanchis
          Ethiopians should slow down and think thoroughly. What is this መንቀዥቀዥ and jump to invest in Eritrea?
          Eritrea is for Eritreans first!
          Any thing other than cultural exchanges should be considered trespassing.
          Eritreans should never feel second class citizens when it comes to investment opportunities.
          HOWEVER, I strongly encourage Ethiopians to flood Eritrean cities investing in relationships. Now is the time looking for Asmara ፅቡቅቲ while the guys are still confused . The guys have forgotten many things including taking care of a woman.
          ( Gheteb calls it “Second Werar” or something like that) .
          አስመራ መፂና ፅቡቅቲ ሰሪቅና!!

          • Paulos

            Hey Abinism,

            I want you to read a link on Eritrea from BBC report in Amharic. Eyob Medhanie provided the link yesterday here in this forum. Too lazy to repost it. You find it for you’re younger than I am ☺.

          • Abi

            Hi Paul
            I found the the link and it is a sad story to say the least.
            With less younger men to protect and defend the Shikorinas in Asmara it is a moral duty and obligation for Ethiopian men to provide a loving and tender care for the “young and the restless “.
            I’m glad you are lazy and old:). Soon more Ethiopian than Eritrea babies will roam Godana Abiy in Asmara.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam abi
            What the link shows is the eri poltics(specially oppo and none oppo) have no concern to the people and the country. It shows the whole of poltics r about ego.
            by the way u always sound like some kind of rural “shambel basha” or something like that, not ras. U have no clue about ras .

          • Paulos

            Abinism,

            The reporting in fact has a profound psychological implications, I would think.

            It was the very language [Amharic] that was despised so much so that, the struggle was on to make the nation not only better than the country where Amharic is the lingua franca but 27 after the fact, the reverse turned out to be true.

            In a nutshell, the report should read, independent Eritrea got nothing to show for. Describing the grim reality in Amharic sends chills if it was worth it in the first place where it would’ve appeared benign had it [the report] been in Tigrinya.

          • kazanchis

            Hey Abi,
            That’s very generous of you for clearing us to go after Asmara gals. 😂 But on serious note, I completely agree what’s unfolding at the moment is very concerning. We should pose questions and we need to see beyond the euphoric Abiy-Isaias honeymoon. Eritrean investors should be given fair chance of developing their country, they don’t have to be left in limbo while their country overtaken by foreign investors.

      • Beyan

        Selam Horizon,

        I don’t want to put words in Kazanchis’s mouth, but people who watched the comments coming from those who arrived in Asmara with the first flight had a number of them saying that they are exploring business prospects in Eritrea, the menace, thereby giving them ahead start. Consider this:

        Seeing images of the former PM of Ethiopia and his family mid-air as they were headed to Asmara and Ethiopian entertainers like Josse in the same flight and many others who maybe smelling business opportunities in Eritrea is an encouraging sign, but with the caveat. One can’t help it but wish the same opportunity was afforded to Eritreans the world over who would give up everything they have to move back to Eritrea but cannot because of the unpredictable sociopolitical climate in the nation. Giving Ethiopians economic affirmative action in the making as this exclusive access to the country is ripe for economic development would mean they will invest for a handsome return way before the citizens of the country could? Josse and subsequent comments in the clip below give part of the reason for their visit to Asmara is to invest. That’s my read of Kazanchis’s entry, I will stand corrected if I am reading him. I don’t know giving exclusive access to business prospects to Eritreans is a wise move. Equitable access would be what will be beneficial for both countries. The sky is the limit when it comes to prospering in Ethiopia, it has been for generations of Eritreans. I see no reason why the same shouldn’t be the case for entrepreneurs and those who seek business ventures of all stripes.

        https://youtu.be/7rABQtQr_jI?t=1522

        The link above should start at the 25:30 to 31:00 minute mark where individual Ethiopians seem to wanna do some preliminary business venture assessments, which is a healthy sign for good days to come if only there will be laws and policies guiding some such ventures. I don’t know that to be the case in Eritrea today. Way too early to tell whether these people will return home disappointed as Eritreans in diaspora were during the heyday of optimism when they thought they could settle in Eritrea. That dream was squashed for many Eritrean, one prominent example of which was Red Sea Press.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam beyan
          Most of the business delegation that goes to eri in the first flight of ethiopian airlines r low level import/exporters. I don’t think they have capabilities to build business in eritrea. They don’t even consider investors in ethiopia. The organizers r private company called wafa, not gov.

          • Beyan

            Selam Teodros,

            Your point is well taken. But, half of the battle in the business of public perception is made through optics. EriTv was airing – it seemed – live when these Ethiopian guests arrived. It gives the perception or misperception, as it were, of Ethiopians here they come to take over. Erroneous as it maybe, previously Ethiopia occupied us by force, and now it is coming with milk and honey to take over. This fear, however erroneous, is real. To that might be what Kazanchis was alluding to. I say might be because Kazanchis doesn’t really say that, It is I who is surmising this as I have watched the entire EriTv piece in question, a portion of which I shared earlier.

            That said, Teodro, imagine, Eritrean regime gives some such a space and invites Eritreans, say, from Saudi Arabia and environs to come back home to thrive and prosper. These Eritreans, by the way, you may know this, are really having difficulty making a living these days because of the Saudi 2030 vision that literally robs the foreigners of their meager income by taxing for every child in their household. Add to that, the 2% ( I don’t know it could be more) that the Eritrean regime charges these Eritreans, to which they have no chance of refusing because their held hostage by the Eritrean passport that they carry.

            These Eritreans are now fleeing to places as close to Egypt and as far away as Turkey and Georgia, yes, Georgia that former Soviet satellite nation. So, do you think Eritrean regime will have it in its heart to extend an olive branch to its own citizens to return home where they can invest in small business ventures, of course not. The regime gives not a whit about Eritrean nationals, which is why we’ve heard the man at the helm unflinchingly declaring about Eritreans who leave in drove to go on and empty the nation, they could be replaced by Indians and other foreigners at the cheap.

            Again, imagine, the regime invites Eritreans in diaspora to come home and make a living as PM Abiy is doing by coming to DC as we speak, the visit of which extends to Minnesota and Los Angeles. What does our Dungeon Maker do when he used to visit the US insult us all. There is untapped reservoir of talents lurking in wait, a population more than willing to help the country thrive, but a regime that sees a political opponent as an enemy cannot have an understanding that it is losing out on a sizable population that can help its economy become vibrant.

            Good Sunday to you young man.

            Beyan

        • Haile S.

          Selam Beyan
          Allow me to add few words here. I absolutely agree with you. The deliberate exclusion and ignoring by the EPLF/PFDJ of able Eritreans to play a key role in th country’s economic development is mind boggling, to put it mildely. It goes back to just before independence when IA in his interview said Eritrea is for those who fought for it, ኤርትራ ንዝተጋደሉላ እያ. This is laudible innocent statement considering everyone was a fighter in one way or another including in tolerating the immense suffering. However, the intention and the practice of IA & Co looks to be restricted to certain fighters excluding even those who gave their arms and legs. ንዝተጋደሉላ እያ is an extensible shield or umbrella that can be retracted at the whim of the regime. And it seems to be restricted to those adherents who stick to whatever direction the regime sways. Unless this absurd regime’s guideline ኤርትራ ንዝተጋደሉላ እያ is uprooted and removed, there will not be justice in Eritrea. Eritrea belong to all Eritreans.

          • Beyan

            merHaba Haile S.,

            You have a long memory. I solely relied on Sal Y.’s analysis for I never liked the man’s bombastically arrogant and impishly intolerable attitude in the way he despised the very people who gave their youth and adulthood calling characterizing them as ለሓስቲ ተረፍ ቢያቲ ናይ … you fill in the blank. It is unfortunate that people relied on the man who changes his words as often as he does his socks…nothing comes out of such perfidious lips but something that one cannot reliably use as a source for analysis or as a reliable source to pin one’s opinion on. I have been immensely grateful to Sal Y. for taking this task year in and year out.

            But, I do see your point very well, Haile S., because what the man says weighs heavily on those who are under him. He gives them more than a hint – not by way of policy, mind you but – via verbal orders just as we are hearing it now from Kbrom who seems to have inside scoop. For example, one verbal policy that you just alluded to, “ኤርትራ ንዝተጋደሉላ እያ” would be translated by the foot soldiers and true believers that anything will go so long a former tegadalay/it will be given not only priority but if you have to eliminate a private citizen to take his wealth, it is all a fair game, as was done to many Eritreans repeatedly. That statement of ኤርትራ ንዝተጋደሉላ እያ has been made obsolete with the arrival of Ethiopians, one hopes. In the final analysis, all that one can conclude with is as Americans would say, “it is what it is”.

            Beyan

  • Abraham H.

    Selam All, the pfdj regime website shabait writes, “Government of Eritrea appoints Ambassador to Ethiopia”, and follows it with “President Isaias Afewerki has appointed on 20 July Mr. Semere Russom, Minister of Education, as the Eritrean Ambassador to the Federal Republic of Ethiopia.” So that is just a confirmation for those who previously doubt it that dia actually is the government of Eritrea.
    It goes like dia=pfdj=eri gov=Eritrea. How could an entire nation allow itself to be the private property of a sigle individual is beyond anyone’s comprehension.
    The pfdj website states also that Mr. Semere Russom will maintain his ministerial rank. What does this mean, will he continue to serve as minister of education in Eritrea while serving as an ambassador in Ethiopia?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Wow, Abrham!

      You are fearless. You use your maths knowledge to attack the government of Eritrea. You see how the fearless web-page does to you. It gives you courage to apply your knowledge to isolate your government from its people. Isolating Eritrea from its neighbors is shattered, sorry. And this mathematical blow is the real thing.

      Your next assignment ,i hope, will be that solving the equation of whether it is the Eritrean government peace agreement is the one which brings development for Eritrea or the mass exodus of Eritreans to the whole world using PIA as an excuse and send money back home. Both have their own own risks isn’t it?

      • Abraham H.

        Dear MM, the fact that our tormentor Isayas hugging with Abiy has no meaning for us Eritreans unless we are left alone in our country to lead just a normal life, even by African standards. As long as the police predator state of Isayas is hovering over us, we are not free, and we don’t have peace. A population kept in prison cannot enjoy whatever this so called normalization means.

        • saay7

          Abraham:

          The prison guard had gone on vacation to celebrate an investment opportunity that had been stalled due to fall out with his partner (there is a new partner and they agreed to throw away their old ledger books and start a new one.) He is back from a wonderful vacation where the natives gave him strange skin drawings, made him drink buttermilk, wrapped him in native clothes, and enveloped him with love. He hadn’t witnessed so much love and affection and he was afraid his heart was going to burst out of his chest and he kept pushing it back (his is just below his Adam’s apple.) The natives said we have now exorcised all his demons and we are sending him to you whole and pure, like a newborn.

          It’s only an hour flight back from Addis to Asmara, even when you take the scenic route but by the time he landed he was already Inn a bad mood. The sight of delegation assembled to greet him (the Cabinet who know nothing and do nothing) depressed him. The road from the airport to his house was as usual deserted, unlike the last time he made that drive back with Abiy. (The festival committee forgot to order the people to come out and salute their conquering king.)

          So it’s a week later now. And all that’s happened is the same thing that always happens: some prisoners (about 25) who signed a document they will never go assemble at a designated house to pray (because their church is closed and their faith banned), won’t pray anymore. Those who refused are in jail, and the hundreds of prisons the Ghezae Hagos listed continue to house prisoners.

          Saay

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Saay, esp. the way the dictator greeted his nominal ministers was so revealing to me that he doesn’t have a nary of respect towards them. I don’t know why he was in such a hurry when he was shaking their hands; I could read the humilation in their faces as they looked at each other smiling.

          • Now inc.

            Abraham,
            So how do you think IA feels when he rounds-up the minsters for meeting and starts to talk on topics he wants to talk about? I am guessing as much as easy meetings with no question and no challenge are desirable, he hates these meetings. He would think why the hell is he even wasting his time there.
            Of course these days he is under microscope by the irritating opposition on single-man decision-ness pertaining to the relation with Ethiopia. This is where the service of the useless minsters will be needed for “visual” legitimacy on the many decisions he will be making. It will be “The Cabinet Ministers” has decided this or that, accompanied with photos of the fool minsters laughing and smiling. Or if you prefer the EriTv version, it will be moving hands and lips with muted sounds.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Now inc. I think it has been long time since I heard “tha cabinet of ministers have decided this or that”. In the hierarchy of power dia is the all poweful, then the security bosses, then comes the pfdj bosses, then the zonal admins, the ministers are last

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, Abraham.
          A single person can never do all these things which i herd that Isias are accused for. If he could have done all these over the whole nation alone then he is a superman and you have to be able to live with that. Besides the risk of loosing many soldiers in eri-ethio war is abolished at least for the time being and this is good too. More than good. More than any thing good.

          The money used for making 200,000 or more soldiers alert wit all the necessary equipment is just another bonus. A rich superman is better than a poor one, i guess.

          Engaging hundred thousands of Eritreans in work with the opportunity created by the peace deal, etc etc.

          So i dont see any harm the peace deal with Isayas/Eritrea now or before.

          But any tpf sympathizer can come up wit the isayas superman card is lame, useless, simply rubbish. Or any looser who thinks the civil war which supposed to dismantle Ethiopia is abolished so Ethiopia is still a threat for the great Eritrea is the worst an Eritrean wish for Ethiopia. We know tplf is doing too much harm against the unity of Ethiopia but tplf has not plan to help Eritrea but it is just out of its greediness nature.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear MM, in short there is no any difference from the last 20 years as far as the Eritrean people is concerned. The only difference is that now the Eritrean dictator has a friend in Arat kilo, rather than his nemesis the Weyanes. Also I want to remind you that Isayas will not demobilise the 200 000 or more recruits, he is going to find them another troubles to keep them away from urban centers, so that his power is not threatened.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Abi,

    I am very sorry for the mix-up between Horizon and Kim–it is not intentional. But all is good.

    Do you know why that happened, Abi?

    Indeed, our memory and our patience running thin. And I warned you guys not to push us into craziness, you know what happens!

    You provoke us through your highest office, and you wonder about my memory. I am anxious about the future and to the extent, I mix up two names. Do you onsider I was just adding the two and treating them as one, based on the Medemer formula?

    But your comment was funny, I like the wit 🙂

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Saleh
      We are in the same boat when it comes to being anxious about the future. I have been mixing up names for about two weeks now.
      Abiy +Isu = Abisu
      እንዲህ ነው መደመር !

  • Paulos

    Selam Abinism,

    Union is a foregone conclusion. If there is any striking similarity with what Mesfin Hagos said and the new reality, in Afabet, Mesfin was told already agreed arrangement and we are being told an already agreed upon arrangement where the only slight difference is that we are too weak and meek to protest.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Paulos and Ras Abi,

      Your exchanges remind me what Prof. Berekhet Habtesillasse has been on record to have told Emperor Hailesellasse. Follow the dialogue:

      ንጉሱ፥ ፈዳራስዮይ ምን ማለት ነው?
      ኣቶ በረከት፥ ፈደራስዮን ማለት ኣንድ የኣስተዳደር ስልት ነው።
      ንጉሱ፥ የህ ኣሁን ያለው ምን ይመስለሃል?
      እቶ በረከት፥ የሀማ የተባበሩት መንግስታት ያጸደቁት ስምምነት የተመሰረተ ነው።
      ንጉሲ፡ ብናፈርሰው ምን ይመስለሃል?
      ኣቶ በረከት፣ ጃንሆይ እሱ ክሆነማ የተኛ ኣንበሳ መቀስቀስ ይሆናል።

      There is no doubt history had vindicated the insanity and learned advice of the good professor. What he understood at the time was that the federation was not a contract between two sides (though a bit distorted) sanctified by third party – UN. The divorce that restored sovereignty to Eritrea was also a contract sanctified by sponsorship of the third party – UN. Shall Isayas or any partner of him need another Berekhet Habtesillassie to remind him that tampering with sovereignty would amount to disturbing a sleeping lion?

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Isamael,

        Thank you for the history reminder. And I don’t understand why Abi, Paulos or others think IA can wake up a sleeping lion.

        Technically IA can force a referendum like what they did in cramaea but it’s totally different circumstances and different history, where it was part of Soviet Union and only in the 60s where it become part of Ukraine. Even Russia, one of the super powers is have a mountain task to overcome that. Why Ethiopia and Eritrea with much internal mess and external volunerability take such risk with very little return in the end.

        Eritrea is the only country who was forced to join Ethiopia under shady circumstances, and Ethiopian leaders should now what the price they have paid for it.

        Abi Zeraf Zeraf will be short lived. He soon will start accusing the Eritrean business people and the Eritrean embassy for taking advantage of Ethiopia and will advocate to build a wall.
        How can his pendulum shifts from one extreme end to the other. Thank God he is not a real Ras:).

        Let’s leave alone the people to enjoy life with their family and friends in their own homes.

        As PM said, the land, the sea, the people are enough for all of us to share and live peacefully.

        The head of Ethiopian airlines said, soon they will start to package a vaction deal to visit Massawa, where he said, there is a lot of demand. That’s the kind of arrangements and economic cooperation that will take place.

        Berhe

      • Abi

        Hi IsmailAA
        I hate to disagree with you but that sleeping lion has been in a coma for decades now.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Ras Abi,

          I admire you wit though it’s is not always bereft of flaw. You’re right; lions do sleep like in “coma”, and never worry about things that fly and land around them. Lions act as lions when they reckon the threat is real.

          • Abi

            Hi IsmailAA
            I see your point.
            Comatose or not The Brave Lions of Eritrea will always swat away the annoying flies flying around them.
            Since there has never been a threat of any kind so far around the lions’ den, let the lions continue sleeping.
            I will volunteer to hang a “do not disturb ” sign on each and every den.
            I’m coooool!!!

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Ras Abi,
            Well, it will depend where you will decide to hang the signs. The bet you seem to be counting on sound deceptively crowding memory in the dream world.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Ya Abo,

          is that ? in which, planet are you living? why do you say so?

          KS,,

    • Alex

      Hi Paulos,
      What made you to say “Union is a foregone conclusion”. I don’t think you associate your self with Eritreans much and if you do you could not have made that statement. I can tell you union with Ethiopia is not going to happen in my life time. My brothers and sisters who fought successive Ethiopia regime did not die for Eritrea to be united with Ethiopia including my comrades in the 1998-2000 border war. I feel sick to my stomach when people who did nothing for the country throw the union card as if it OK with majority Eritrean people.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Abi,

    I object to your MQ. M stands for mocking. Johar knows that I, Kim and Horizon speak the same language for about 85% of the time. The 15% we don’t want to talk about it with foreigners.

    I have a 75% agreement with the young Ras Abi. We will leave out the 25% for another day.

    Mr K.H

  • Sam

    Hello Moderator,

    Sorry, by the time I realized what I did it was already too late. “Last warning” sounds like I was warned before. Was I?

    • Sam

      Dear moderator,

      Please accept my sincerest apology. You have a lot on your plate and I don’t want to add anything more.

      Peace!

  • Kaddis

    Hi Nitricc –

    About the New Eth Ambassador to Eritrea Redwan Hussien

    I saw you complain about the Ethiopia Ambassador assigned in Asmara, couldn’t find it. Let me share you my views – starting the benefit Eritrea can get from his appointment
    As much as I hate the ruling party use these posts as a ‘Gizot’ as Hailesselasse and to recycle party loyalists, undermining the art of diplomacy;
    Redwan is a pioneer to struggle for self-determination in the country on nationality level and succeeded to declare ‘Selté is culturally or heritage wise was not part of Gurage and managed to create their own Zone through a referendum.

    We joked in the 90s ‘Selté is the only Arab country without oil’ etc… fast forward +15 years later – the Selté capital Worabé is a big city – very impressive in so many levels. Its around 170Kms south of Addis after the Gurage zone.
    He knows how to mobilise a community ( very hard working and rich in Addis) to develop their home town to a formidable economic centre. In fact Ethiopia should make a model of their success for self-administration

    BTW – one credible Ethiopian radio journalist was reporting yesterday from Asmara with a bit of surprise – Asmara is only 10km wide, use only generator for power for 20 years and is struggling even to charge his phone and report.
    Means the new Ambassador comes from a bigger ( newer) city than Asmara and has a lot to share. Maybe sign a ‘sister city’ agreement Worabé – Asmara? (joke)

    Another benefit for you – during his time as a Government communication Minister ( apart being a talking head) – he was more accessible particularly for foreign correspondents here . He hosted the African Media Owners forum in Addis and even allowed media NGOS like CPJ, Article 19 etc to take part …they even tried to see some journalists in jail – forgot how it ended up.

    One advantage for us – Ethiopia
    The Eritrean government or its parastatals have a problem of relying on contraband than legal – particularly the money laundering and currency manipulation is scary. Redwan, coming from the Selté zone, a society that have more crooks per population than any other society in Eth – could be a great asset for us in Asmara. Deterrence 🙂

    • David Samson

      Selam Kaddis,

      As per old Ethiopia’s provinces (Kfle Hager), am I right to assume that ‘Selté was part of Chebona ena Gurage sub province?

      With regards to Asmara, it is, “I told you so”.
      I could not stop laughing on the crime syndicates analogy.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Kaddis, thanks for the promotion.

      But all tplf’s puppets shall not take such a big position. This is temporary assignment until Ethiopia settles down with the revolution going on. If you mean really he is good in self determination then tell tplf that the tigray killil needs him more than the ambassador-ring the two countries which underwent a huge human sacrifice due to tplf’s self determination aka divide and rule. If you want to lecture about self determination you dont have to go so far, Tigray is so closer for Eritreans and you can explain to all that how tplf makes use of self determination to empower tigrians and control the the Ethiopian security, military and economy. Even the church must have a tigrean bishop. If you want any positive development to propagate about our 27 years journey take Tigray you wont be disappointed.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Kaddis, the inept DIA was not even able to run a 180MW diesel generator, and one of the most strategic factories in the country, the Massawa cement factory is a relic of the past. Imagine, this kind of ignorant to declare the Ethiopian GERD project with the capacity of more than 6000MW as a white elephant. I’m sure many Ethiopian tourists are up for a big surprise when they soon visit Eritrea, just like the journalist you mentioned.

    • Alex

      Hi Kaddis,
      Don’t take what the radio journalist said that Asmara is 10KM wide and use only generator power for 20 years at face value. Asmara is about 20 KM from one side to another side of the city Plus Asmara is connected to the hirgigo power plant with capacity of 136 MW.

      • Saleh Johar

        Alex,
        Is there another Asmara that is 20 kms wide? I don’t know that Asmara. besides, don’t be defensive when they tell you it is a small city. So what?

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei.
    The eritrean government must not wait a third party mediator to make peace with Djibouti. We know third party makes its commission in the agreement which the two country never finish paying. PIA must take a bold step to make peace with our brotherly Djiboutians. And make alliance with the rest of east African countries. This old fashioned eplf/tplf maneuver to get hold of for regional power by proxy war, civil war, arming oppositions groups is over.

    The new game in town is how do we help our peoples to achieve a better life, how to see our one people who dissected by colonial borders as our own citizens regardless which country they belong. How do we use the people dissected by the colonial power as a resource to achieve peace instead of war and make ourselves slaves of war catalyze. How an an american Eritrean has so strong commitment from so far away to his or her own people in Eritrea and how come an Eri Afar becomes so harsh on the Djibouti -Afar etc. If the american tag is not a problem to an eritrean and then how come an Eri tag becomes a problem. This we all have to think about. Our people are our people if they live in Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Sudan. Let the border be there and work hard so that the border lines dont become obstacles on our way to development.

    We are one people in different countries.

  • iSem

    Hi George:

    No you are crying, because PIA humiliated you guys. Thee problem with us, by us I mean 99.999999 % of this forum and by that I man the justice demanders, and by that I mean those of us who are on the right side of history and by that I mean those of us who are on the side of our people, the people who are suffering, is we are ambitious otherwise what IA did was a win for us and we have predicted it that he will betray u. If u are willing to follow him to hell, that is called suicide and if yo have loved ones they have to watch u not to hurt urself

    This is a win for us because IA treats like u less thant I treat my garbage, I treat my plastic bottles better than IA treats u, because I ensure the longevity of my platic bottles by recycling them and they talk about thier former lives and owners fondly after their incarnation
    But we do not consider this a win while people are languishing in prisons, but for a revenge it is sweet, very sweet. I will make sure I will meet Gheteb in Keren not to do to him like BY has promised but to do something worse and that is shame him. BY is wrong and he will reconsider when he does the math of the energy it takes to do what he promised:-)

  • Saba

    Selam Opposition
    I believe everything what Ato Mesfin Hagos is saying. But there is nothing new he said. Due to globalization trends, PIA was entertaining the idea of annexing Ethiopia to Eritrea, and not annexing Eritrea to Ethiopia. But the 1998 war was all TPLF game and now it is TPLF game over! Fanti was assigned to TPLF2.0 but he is still processing.
    In addition, Ato Mesfin Hagos has said that most of what the opposition claims about PIA is wrong. That is deep.
    Anyway like most of the opposition, Ato Mesfin is 27 years late. I never understood why the opposition is reactive and not proactive.
    The opposition is slowly moving to the sovereignty crowd. Do not worry, we will teach you Eritrean sovereignty101, it is in the third way app.

    • Paulos

      Selam Saba,

      I am sure you’ve heard of Elizabeth Kubler. Yes, that’s her. She gave us the five stages of Grief. The first stage is Denial, the rest may not be relevant with in the context at hand.

      You certainly are in denial. Isaias said, we are one people but you found consolation in the young PM’s Amharic translation instead. Mesfin Hagos finally said that Isaias is in fact an alien not Earthly and you opted for what the psychs say—-Immature Defense Mechanism as in Rationalization. A man was told that he has cancer but he insisted that he heard ulcer instead. The deal is ዘይተርፈካ ጋሻ ኣጥቢቕካ ሳዓሞ።

      • iSem

        Hi paul:
        yea the guy heard ulcer: ente temeseleley.
        I just ridiculed some one, a kobor junkie who called me to tell me the bro of son and so was released from prison and IA issued a memo saying that no need for prisons.
        Eritereans call the anti-viral meds for HIV menawihi and IA is giving Ghetebs, Semeres and Nitricc and all his jukies menawihi and one day when he is in bad mood, he will withdraw and they will die
        Do not worry about Saba, she sis angling for the herbal shop in Asmara where Ethiopians will shop
        yea, getta tenagrewal

        • Paulos

          Selam Semerile,

          A question for you and Awatistas. What Isaias informed the few and selected people was an act of treason for it defeats the very purpose of the struggle for independence.

          Ten years later, high ranking government officials were accused of treason and the question is, if in fact Mesfin Hagos was privy to the information he just disclosed, why didn’t he defend the people by citing what Isaias actually had said which was again tantamount to treason?

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Dr. Paulos,

            Glad to have you are back. Well, virtues vs follies; treason vs fidelity etc. are unfortunately relegated in distorted world to the discretion of whoever has the whip in hand. We heard how Isayas’ world is so weird that he acted as judge as to who the fallible was during the 25 years he repeatedly harangued. I had genuine empathy for the two young men who had to listen with discernible boredom.

          • Paulos

            Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

            Thank you so much. I would say, since the creation of the nation, this is the most trying times to date. No body seems to have the answer to the nagging question—quo vadis Eritrea. We can only guess and speculate for we are known as the speculating people.

            Ethiopia sends to Eritrea men with money and young men of talents when Eritrea in exchange sends older men and women including children where the age bracket in between is no where to be seen. The true believers can no more say, ንኺድ ጥራሕ for the knees have given away and out not so much in an old age but in quiver. Quo vadis Eritrea?

      • Saba

        Dear Paulos,
        I can reply to you similar to your style, with regurgitation of what some FeRenJi said but with some creativity and some humors, not bland like yours. But it is not the point of this forum, IMHO. If you insist i could have started with this line: You had a reactive depression* for 4 days and away from this forum because you saw DIA the lion turned into PIA the tekula 🙂
        You could learn to answer line by line as some great people do in this forum. At least you could have summarized what was true and what was not true about PIA according to Ato Mesfin’s interview. And may be compare that with PIA speeches about federation. Please enlighten us if there is anything new in the interview of Ato Mesfin.
        This new peace deal between Eritrea and Ethiopia is not about union. But if you know something to the contrary spill the beans, do not wait 27yrs:)
        * I do not know Paulos, if i do not know him i can not say he had reactive depression….. Adapted from PIA interview.

        • Paulos

          Selam Saba,

          Hope you won’t tell me to Google it for I don’t know and never heard of “Reactive Depression.” Please, enlighten me if you will If I could borrow your line.

          There is a certain strata with in this forum in terms of creativity and ability to counter argue line by line and again if I could borrow your line [Hope there is no added interest rate as I keep borrowing from you—trying to be funny and not a bland–again borrowing your line.]

          And with in the strata, I am way down at the bottom and if I occasionally or maybe all the time throw Ferenjis’ [Again, borrowing your line] fancy words as in smart words, it is a desperate attempt on my part to be accepted by those at the top of the strata who counter argue line by line. I admit!

          You need to give me some slack at least for being honest including when I point out that I see you quiver when you saw the Tartars at the gate. And did you see the woman in a traditional attire who is soon to be a managing director of the new ticket office [Ethiopian Airlines] in Asmara? She is the sister of the late Araya Zerihun the founder of TDA as in Tigrai Development Association which was the backbone of TPLF. So much for “Game Over.”

          • iSem

            Wow Paul:
            I have crowned you awate forums’s “Humility in Chief” for using Humility to Humiliate and that is what you did with this humble comment to Shaba

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            I think Saba (as a terminologist) might be teamed up with those experts designated for “ medical terminologies” to assign new diagnostic names in the field of psychiatry. I have never heard “reactive depression”. I hope Saba will enlightened us as to what reactive depression is. By the way Your humility in your response is appreciated.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            Thank you for those kind words. It is high time for the ንሕና ንሱ lot to reassess their position and trust in Isaias for he is slowly but surely coming out with his real intent. I am more convinced as the days go by that he is up to something to the extent of bringing Eritrea back to the Ethiopian fold. It may not happen tomorrow but it seems to be the final analysis.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Dr. Paulos,

            I think, after transmission of Eritrean leadership and submission to Dr. Abie Ahmed, nothing is left to Isaias in Eritrea. Isaias is not save anymore in Eritrea. He will shift quickly to the next stage and request help from Dr. Abie Ahmed. In the near future, the people of Asmara will wake up and over the place is full of Ethiopian Tor-Sarawit

          • Saba

            Dear Paulos,
            I predicted your reply. It is a Sabean era term:) I knew you would fell for that and you did. And congratulation for your humility at being humiliated by iSem:) Are you a member of the Emma party? As you can see i can throw you more red meat that keeps you away from guarding your treasure.

            Let’s focus in the topic. Eritrea is a UN member. Can PIA unilaterally unite Eritrea and Ethiopia together? Without referendum, no consult of the people?

          • Paulos

            Selam Saba,

            Red meat, the experts say is not good for health. Would try to explain why that is the case but worried you may throw the Ferenji thing at me. Will pass.

            I am with the Opposition if that is what you wanted to know. That said, let me return the favour feeding you ሓምሊ ቖስጣ instead.

            When Malelit became the guiding ideology of the Weyanes, as it happened, Isaias was having down time with the leaders of the Front. And he said to them jokingly as I heard it to be, ኣየ ንስኻትክን ዓወት ዝመጽእ ብማለሊት ኣይኮነን ዓወት ዝመጽእ ብኣና ደቂ ጀጋኑ ደቂ ኣሉላ ኣባነጋ!

          • Saba

            Selam Paulos,
            The FerenJi thing is ok if it is applied in the right context. Here are two things i find problematic with the FerenJi thing:
            1) Some people write Eritrea-related articles full of the Ferenji thing and the article becomes difficult to understand may be because they are not applied in the proper context (unrelated to the Eritrean case) or they are too much. And they get mad if you say the article is unreadable.
            2) this is problematic even to Ferenji themselves. One day They tell you not to drink wine. the next day, they tell you that it is good to drink red wine. And after that you have to pay to find out if red wine is still good for your heart. One thing i like about fewsey fewsi Asha is that it is always accurate:)
            Having said that go full Ferenji with the Red meat and i want to hear what you say.

          • Paulos

            Selam Saba,

            I am sure you will live a long life not because of your selected diet per the Ferenji’s meandering recommendations but your sense of humor is on par with a stand up comedy.

            Sure enough I am itching to go all the way Ferenji on the Red Meat but what if say, tomorrow a new study invalidates the supposed harm in it. Will pass and will opt the ፈውሰይ ፈውሲ ዓሻ [You should see me laughing, thank you for the laugh.]

            When Prozac came out in the mid 90s, a woman sued her therapist who had treated her for three years to no avail but Prozac made wonders in here.

            Here is the deal though, experts tell us that there is no much difference between a placebo and Prozac on people with moderate depression [at least 40% of the time.] Point being, scientific discoveries including recommendations can be volatile. And of course, serendipity is at play more often than not as well. For instance, one of the first medications also known as Chlorpromazine that came out to treat Schizophrenia was meant to be to control shock during surgery but surgeons noticed patients becoming calm and less agitated right after surgery. And they tried it on Schizophrenics afterwards. But of course they had to replace it with medications of less side effects. Vagaries is the signature of scientific discoveries and food recommendations as well.

          • Saba

            Hi Paulos,
            Ayfalka, biMahla Ras ALuLa, since you started it go Ferenji about the red meat. Worst case i will blame it to my doctor:)
            I like the word “Serendipity”.
            Thank you for the story about Chlorpromazine.

          • Paulos

            Selam Saba,

            Never thought I would’ve one day a fav quasi-PFDJista or sorta-PFDJista or a hard core PFDJista. And of course, there is first time for everything. If you’re none of the above, you’re my fav nonetheless ክሳብ ንባኣስ።

            ሕጂ ድኳነይ ዓጽየ ገዛ ይኸይድ ስለዘለኹ ጽባሕ ናይ ቀይሕ ስጋ ነገር ክንቅጽሎ ኢና።

        • iSem

          Saba:
          from all the people Saba would know that there is nothing new under the sky, because she was the editor in chief one the one who wrot eit said so. How is that for humor, Sabu
          Now, MH’s revelation is not new, but it validates what others were saying and clarifies what IA said in 1993 about confederation, and answers IA’s coy reply when a Ferenji asked him that question. One more arrow in the quiver to puncture IA and yours caccoon

      • FishMilk

        Hi Paulos. Years ago while visiting Khartoum, when speaking of relations between Sudan and Eritrea, PIA said ‘we are one people’. Does that mean that Eritrea is part of Sudan?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam FishMilk,

          But he didn’t entertain with you and the rest of his colleagues about federation and Confederation with Sudan, while in fact he did with Ethiopia during mathematics 90s. My friend all the indications of the on going relationship are pointed to the same goal. Please don’t defend the un defendable acts of the despot. You can’t rewrite history and try to compare apples and oranges. The despot will go sooner or later, and I am sure you will not defed him in his final days. Did you listen Mesfun Hagos’s interview?

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Saba,
      Isaias was also thinking of globalization when he met Eritrean university students in South Africa. He told them not to bother returning home. He told them thanks to globalization he will be able to hire from the Philippines.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Abrehet,
        One of the biggest IA & Co’s blunder regarding higher education is this reasoning “if you don’t serve under our boots, we will hire expatriates”, as if the money comes from ዓርበረቡዕ, but more importantly going against the objectives of independence, social fabric and ladder, against all evens and odds.
        Tribute to those who closed their ears and covered their noses and remained in the country to educate the brave young Eritreans. These later are not bad BTW, thanks to their own relentless endeavour. We have seen some of them, brilliant at that, here at Awate like Samuel and perhaps sis Abrehet herself, if I am not mistaken.

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Aya Haile,
          Why do you call it a “blunder”? The intended purpose was to alienate anyone who has a different opinion from them. And yes there are amazing and wonderful teachers who continue to educate. As for me, tsebelom aylekeyenin.

          • Paulos

            ፍትውቲ ሓፍተይ,

            Eritreans stood out with in the academia in the 60s through out the 80s including in Ethiopia where the legendary ተስፋይ መረስዕ among others comes to mind. He sailed through Engineering program in Addis with solid 4.0 GPA every year. It was just extraordinary. Can we stand out if we are to compete in this day and age when Isaias was determined to destroy the otherwise bright Eritrean mind? Can we?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abrehet,
            My blunder! Yes, you are right, it was a deliberate alienation. እንቋዕ በሊ ጸበሎም ኣይለኸየኪ.

      • Paulos

        ሰላም ፍትውቲ ሓፍተይ,

        In fact, if I am not mistaken, the exact words he said was globalization is equalizer.

      • Saba

        Selam Abrehet,

        But he also told some people to go to Mars. So he is not always a globalist. We need more human resource to our globe. And
        those who heard PIA saying that, instead of defending their globe, they opted to stay in the cyber space and fight each other about mundane things. Can you believe that? Not in my globe:)

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Saba,
          I don’t accept making fun of the exiled youth. Most of them have continued with their lives and become successful. In fact, it is the simple normal life that is forbidden in Eritrea. Some of them have also continued to be a major headache to the Eritrean government. No need to be glib when talking about them. They are still around and their story hasn’t ended yet.

          • Saba

            Dear Abrehet,
            Neither do i. It is in your quarters that are calling some exiled Eritreans “Koboro Junkies”

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Saba,

      Now you done it. You mean to tell us this..this..this BREAKING NEWS was always under our nose all along.

      Are you telling me in 1990 PIA was fighting to overthrow the DERG regime. Now it makes sense.

      TPLF got in the way…..

      In 2018 PIA came in to Addis Ababa as the Conquering Lion of Judah, receiving the accolade of his subjects, throwing kisses instead of Birr to take his rightful place on the throne.
      Is that what you are trying to say.
      That sounds like what a closet unionist would say. Oh my God, Saba.

      Mr. K.H

      • David Samson

        Selam Kim Hanna,

        What do IA and Yosief Gebrehit (YG) have in common?

        Both allegedly harbour unionism.

        While YG has been demonised, vilified and called all names under the sun, IA is canonised by his blind supporters.

        If both share the same objective, YG is vindicated.

        • FishMilk

          Hi David Samson. You guys are desperately sick in despair! No wonder nobody takes you serious. Ask any Eritrean that you casually meet (one that you do not know) what he thinks about the Eritrean opposition (meaning people like you and YG). Likely answers:
          1) Laughter
          2) Ridiculous
          3) They are not serious
          4) What opposition?
          5) Those guys are a joke
          6) You mean those old guys from Sudan?
          7) Traitors!
          8) Are they the ones that go on TPLF paid vacations to Addis?,
          9) Are they funded by the CIA?
          10) Are they still alive?
          11) Do they like Rap music?,
          12) Those guys are undercover TPLF!
          13) What have they ever done?
          14) Who pays them?
          15) They’re sick!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam FishMilk,

            David Samson most likely wont respond to you.
            I will ask David Samson to forgive you for you KNOW NOT what you say.

            Mr. K.H

          • FishMilk

            Hi Kim Hanna. OK it is Friday! I have deleted my post.

        • FishMilk

          Hi David Samson. Whew…that is a break. Thought that you were going to assert that YG was Donor-Conceived from PIA.

      • Saba

        Dear Mr. Kim Hanna,

        NO! Is this love thing of PIA going to your head?:) Why do we need to unite Ethiopia to Eritrea at this moment? We did not forget completely what the Amhara elites did to us. What the TPLF did to us is still fresh. Our independence is more important to us. I am ERITREA FIRST. Our goal was not to be just anti-union. Our struggle was not just to be independent from Ethiopia. Our struggle was to be independent from everything, local and global powers and decide our destiny for
        ourselves. Before thinking to unite Ethiopia to Eritrea we have to develop all sectors in our country. We have to have a constitution and strong institutions. After that we can evaluate if there is any benefit of uniting Ethiopia to Eritrea. Our people will decide that, may be with a referendum. So, I am not allergic to the word union per se but only if it is beneficial to Eritreans. We can unite even with Singapore:) In this day and age, it is premature to think about uniting Ethiopia to Eritrea.
        PIA, as a liberal, has entertained the idea of uniting Ethiopia to Eritrea. But he realized that it was premature, so he opted for referendum for the people to decide. I do not believe that PIA have/had the dream of being president/king of a united Ethiopia. I think what he was and is interested is to have more power in the regional geopolitics, not just in Ethiopia but in east Africa. And that is what every country leader try to do. But the TPLF tricked him with their agenda and he fell in the trap. In conclusion do not confuse the desire to be a regional player with the idea of being king of a united Ethiopia & Eritrea.
        This peace deal between Eritrea and Ethiopia is not about union, it is just going back in time to the 1998 period. But now he is too old to have effect in the regional geopolitics. May be he will play that role through PMAA(remember he said “you will lead us” to Abiy). And the Ethiopia of today is stronger than the Ethiopia of 1998. And that worries me. I am not worried of PMAA but his people might take advantage of us. Our institution is weak, we do not have skilled people to negotiate and some “key bahrachin” might harm us again.

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    Specially Emma, Saleh Gadi and all former freedom fighters
    Here is a master piece by I think Seyoum Harestai. It is at least 30 minute in poetic splendor I remember only the following lines, this is not the beginning or the end, I burned them because they hit a cord and their deep meaning
    1.እትው ውጽ ‘ውን ኔሩ ‘ዩ አብ ቓኘው ስትሽን: IA was in and out of
    2.ተኸዲናካ ኣመሪካዊ ምውጽ ሽንሽን
    3.ጓድ መንግስቲ ፤የኡ ብመስቀሉ ዝኳሽም
    4.ውሃ በዓል ለኒናይ ፐኪናይ……

    There were the entering and outings in Kangew Station
    Donning American sartorial style
    It is comrade Megnsitu who flirts with is cross
    Lennist and Beijin……

    This is master piece that needs to be resurrected and posted
    Context: this was when Mengistu was making peace deal with only EPLF and ELF was not consulted and EPLF agreed to surrender its arms if Dergi allowed the Eri people to vote for independence or Union, some thing called 20 ጥቅምቲ
    Transtlation
    1. Referring to to collaboration with CIA and HS
    2. The field jackets that IA group were wearing were donated by CIA fas a pay back
    3. Mengistu is a communisty, who does not believe in God but because EPLF is Chrstian, he is dealing with them and not ELF who is more inclusive
    4. Sacasm for Lennist (ELF) and Bejinsit (EPLF)

  • FishMilk

    Hi All: PIA & PFDJ have likely been secretly funding oppositionists/opposition groups over the past 20 years given their outstanding track record of achievements, uncanny ability to differentiate facts from fiction, and astute avoidance of rumourmongoring, which have strongly supported PIA’s sustained reign of power.

    • Selam Fishmilk,

      True and be that as it may mark my words that it will back fire big time? If there was ever a Trojan Horse, folks we shall be witnessing it live. Epic event in the very near future. I can say this confidently because well well well in addition to my excusit Zaegol Analytics App, I have been an Eritrean all mylife and had no other obsession than yeah yeah
      Hey FishMilk I foresee you doing very well spearheading the “why not one hager one people?” Unionist era of Erithopia. You will very very soon at that. Hammer Time!

      tSAtSE

      • Ismail AA

        Selam tSAtSE Somon wedi Hawey,

        Brilliant read of clouds behind the blue sky, it seems to me. If the blue would exchange place with the clouds, do you foresee merciful rains that could permit Redwan Hussein present his papers of credentials? እንቛዕ ደሓን መጸእካ ወዲ ሓወይ፣ እምብዛ ኣይትጥፋእ።

        • Selam Ayya Ismail AA,

          Your inquiry is rather a nice change of gears for me in that I can postpone a math marathone for SJG. I will take a stab and offer my thoughts regarding Ambasador Redwan Husein as Saleh has left his 13 squared of 169 – a semi prime- squared episodes to his current #14. Now Saleh has found his flare for writing again tomorrow perhaps will be when I address the M&M, Medemer and Mathematics AND we all know M is the 13th alphabet so… tomorrow.

          As for Redwan the appointment is an appropriate one and for sure he will present his credentials. Ethiopia is a youth age weighted young nation today. Eritrea, though has been hemoraging from its youth fleeing, has the monumental task of tackling Youth needs particularly for the soon to be demobilized hundreds of thousands EDF. Ethiopia’s economy with its current and very soon to be replicated industrial parks has the potential and greater capacity to be the cussion for not only Ethiopia soldiers to be demobilized but also Eritrean youth. Youth to youth peace bridges being the highest of demands for these two nations, the pick of Redwan Husein is spot on at this moment. Besides, Redwan will not have to be involved with the mundane elder ‘statesmen’ who are more concerned about septagorian and octagorian issues and their legacy as well as how they have fared as compared to the TPLF/Weyane clique. Eritrean youth will be or are already at the gates of the Ethiopian Embassy in Asmara and have an insatiable apetite to blitz Ethiopian Higher Education institutions as well as labor in industries where the Eritrean youth will put to practice all their theoretical knowledge from the tech and vocational institutions.

          The preparedness or lack therof of the YPFDJs and YEPDRF will be the litmus test of whom of the EPLF or TPLF was doing their homework and strengthening the vital infrustructers, that is the YOUTH, for their respective nations. Trust me there will be lots of embarasments. It is time to put up or shut up for our YPFDJ especially who lacking scientific objectivity have fallen for the 1st embarassing statements coming out of the Nitrics and other retards behind him. Presumably Ambassador Redwan Hussein is a Tigrayan Ethiopian, reason for Nitrics finger diahrea thus far.

          Now, MS or Mahmouday “The Best” Saleh and Eritrean lowlanders vis-a-vis the “why not Aand Hager Aand Hizbouch?” thematic Euphorea judging from Mr. Saleh Johar Ghadi’s current thread will be the addresses of a speedy economic, educational and other integrations. The Eritrean Islam Faith Followers, significantly non habeshas will have the strongest reservasions and initially perhaps the slowest response to being integrated… So it is an excellent touch to send an Ethiopian Muslim, one who will be attending Mesjid and other Islamic social events and to perhaps distribute more equitably of what Ethiopia has to offer.
          The big question or 640K Birr question is: Who will Eritrea choose for its first Ambasador to Ethiopia? One would hope they pur asside their Weyane TPLF shenanigans and be utilitarian when choosing an Ambasador. They should reciprocat with an equally young Eritrean who was born after GitSAtSE was, a decade greater than mine.

          The only “Meqenes” for Redwan is that he better have lots of goodies for the Eritreans expecting good will of equal value reciprocations AND CHOOSE NOT SWIMMERS LIKE ROBEL THE HIPPO OF ETHIOPIA IN BRAZIL but choose a lot faster swimmers and sea wave surfers jet skiers as his first enterouge. He should be start with a significant number of official Ethiopian Universities Scholarships immediately.

          Some time a while ago, the wise hippo of the Tekeze fastest swimmer Fanti Ghana an myslef formulated what should be done with Blue Island (current name Badume) and we agreed it should be the sight of Mekele’s Olymic Sized Swimming pool and the name Makele’s Al Haj al Malik al Shabaz the Brother Malcolm X Swimming Institute and the Xth lane to be named after the 1st Ethiopian Olympics Swim Athelete Robel Kiros Habte, Perhaps Fantination should urge Redwan Husien to put this project on priority firsts as the new Ambasador to Eritrea.

          Well… thats my take but am salavating on tomorrows M&M 13 questions pop quiz for Mr. SJG

          tSAtSE

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ግሳጸ ሰለሙን ወዲ ሓወይ።

            ክብረት ይሃበለይ ንዝለገስካዮ ሰፊሕ መልሲ።

          • Selamat Ayya Ismail AA Haw Abuye, Saleh Gadi, Ayya Amanuel Hidrat and all.

            RE: BODMAS, ወርቃዊት መጠን 1.618 and Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed. [Golden Ratio 1.618 ]

            Your assumption does not sound crude at all, Rather it is the guidance from a great classical philosher Ayya to a sophmore with lots of rust math affectionado. Thank you for the kind words but wizard am not. With your extensive travels and studies in the lands of Persia, you are like the reincarnate Simplicius of Cilicia, a deciple of Ammonius Hermia and Damascius – One of the last f the Neoplatonists. He persecuted by Justinian and you Ayya IsmailAA persecuted by Isu nisu nihna Isias taking refuge in the Pursian Court “before being allowed back into the empire.”

            BODMAS, with heavy emphasis on the first word of the acronym, is a universal repeatable or recurrent entity that can be instantiated or exemplified by many particular things (e.g. 1952, 2018 AND 1991(’93), 1997(’98), 2001 as well as circa 1889).

            The hypothesis BODMAS with the must primary center of gravity being the Bracket, the Ethiopian Mathematician Prime Minister Abiy, a pragmatic utilitarian that he is chose Medemer as the rallying mantra for Youth age weighted Young Ethiopia PLUS “ydegemal”. The genius is his recognition of the point critical mass and on the brink of destruction his nation Ethiopia had reached and his prescribing BRACKET, no Ethiopian left behind, every individual and every single idea or opinion to be added irrespective of it being outrageously on the fringes or most popular, to have representation and the opportunity to be voiced loudly in The BRACKET. The physical BRACKET being Ethiopians’ Parliament consisting of elected legislators dedicated to democratic governance and public servants absent of corrupt, me first, ambitious entrepneurs an capitalists. The + or positive canotation of the slogan “Medemer” does not propose to add any more positives or negatives nor does it creat winners or loosers. Though distractors of Prime Minister Abiy, his administration paint it as the unwise, unguided, baseless immature young leadership leading a weak Ethiopia at point critical mass breaking point, the reality is quite the contrary. The BODMAS phiosophy and mathematics is SOLID and is spearheaded by a charismatic genius who infact recognized the Golden Ratio or ወርቃዊት መጠን 1.618 for the maximum gain for Ethiopia, Ethiopians and beyon.

            It is not point critical mass or breaking point. Rather it is accepting natures ወርቃዊት መጠን 1.618 and accepting whole heartedly all things as they are and then take the reings and confidently lead, be lead and ride the positive wave as exemplified by Prime Minister Abiy Ahemed. In a parliamentary addressing concerns of the legislators, presided by the speaker of the house, the golden equilibrium of peace/love ፍቅር & መደመር is evident judging the captivated audience when the confident charismatic PM gave the example of the Knesset or Israel’s parliament. He gives a bell curve shaped function from one extreme to the opposite of those included in Israel’s Knesset Bracket is an all inclusive representatives who voice their needs and voices such as the land belongs to the Arabs or palestine, the jewish rule is not legitimate until the mesiah comes or decends on earth, labor, likud, as well as representatives who claim both the East as well as West Bank including Jordan possibly other lands of say Syria, Lebenon etc… And then the Prime Minister asserts that the same should be with Ethiopia even with elcted officials who should be able to claim let alone Eritrea they can go even farther and claim Yemen “የመን የ ኛ ነው!” As the Wedndy’s fast food advertisment sloagan question puts it: “Where is the beef?”

            Ayyatat AH and SJG, “Where is the beef?” Bringing me to our main concern as an Eritrean to be followed submission of the theorem requested by “The Eritrean Simplicius of Cilicia GindaE” Ayya Ismail AA. With the utmost due respect, I suspect a generational disparity in the views of such esteemed three as compared to current Eritrea’s demographics. The duty obliged three Ayyas though spring from a converging common denominator, in reality or at least in my view they are two variants. Whereas Ayya Ismail AA attitude is that of the classical philospher who is dedicated to just coninuation of the pursuit for liberty for Eritrea, positioned to bridge the disparity between history and the current, or wisdom of the old and spirited youth, the greatest Eritrean generation and the Eritrean youth of today even greater; Ayya Amanuel Hidrat and Ayya SJG are equal in evey description with the exception of their seemingly consistent with cynic philosophers akin to Diogenes the Cynic. Playing the devils advocate I may even go as far as starting a rummor that the likes of the Admiral Saay7 and Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paul are whispering of the later two as being Anachronistic. Ok, it could be that “I am hearing voices again…” The point being, the Eritrean Youth and I (though I am two years senior to Ambasador Redwan Hussien, and NOT youth) are in danger of misconstruing your guidance and opinions as anachronistic. However BODMAS is a universal and is the order of the day accros the Mereb as well and yours ይደመራል ዎይ!
            Derg’s Dawit Woldegergis is certainly anachronistic to bothe Eritrean and Ethiopian youth, however BODMAS ይደመራል ይደገማል ዎይ! As anachronistic is Dawit’s invitation of Saleh and SJG’s response. Now, “The Simplicius GindaE Bridge” Ayya Ismail may correct me by insisiting and directing me to view they, the one of three and two of three, not as anachronistic but instead as Nominalists who denie the existence of universals and abstract objects, but affirms the existence of general or abstract terms and predicates. As a devine as Platos devine number 60^4 = 12,960,000 is the hypothesis, domestic and foreign policiy and his genius recognition through mathematics Ethiopia’s as well as its immediate environs Golden Ratio gains or ወርቃዊት መጠን 1.618 መደመር።
            And Saleh Johar Gadi misses the mark by a magnitude of 60^4 miles when he joted down these lines:
            “He (Prime Minister Abiy) has embarked on a grand scheme of adding anyone to his mesmerizing love-mix, and his aggressive quest for limitless peace has already created lossers and winners defeating his ‘Medemer’ formula, where his addition has become subtraction, at least on the surface kicking out some Eritreans and some Ethiopians.” On the contrary saleh, the center of gravity of BODMAS is BRACKET as in an all inclusive. The esteemed Eritrean Saleh Johar Ghadi should not have an adverse reaction to raw meat, sushi, gored gored, nor to numbers, medemer particulars that are abstract entities which he and those with similar views must fully recognized so that they are liberated from their cynicsm and cynical productions. Certainly not to ቋንጣ ስጋ with Shiro. And from quantum particles lessons Mr. Saleh Ghadi should thoroughly inspect and decipher are the following, most of which he himslef deploys and employs already as a formidable ACTIVIST:
            1. We are not just passive observers.
            2. When we perform experiments we are not just passively observing how nature progresses.
            3. There is no reality independent of choice of measurement.
            4. The features of a system, which we observe in a measurement exist prior to the measurement. And for sure #5
            5. What we perceive as reality now depends on our earlier decision what to measure. I will add #6
            6. The measurement problem (Eritreans assesesment BODMAS፣ ምዕቃን ብ መጠኑ አቲ “መደመር” ወ ኽ ኣ “ወርቃዊት መጠን 1.618”) is only a problem if one cannot accept that the observer plays a fundamental role in shaping. why not #7
            7. “The observer plays a key role in deciding in deciding the outcome of the quantum meaurements — the answers and the nature of reality depend on the question asked.” The Matter Myth pg 307 ጳውሎስ ደይቪስ ( አወ ቋንጣ ነገር ወይ ቋንጣ ኣገዳሲ ኢዩ ጽንጹዋይ።)

            Per your request Ayya Ismail I will write and conclude for now with “a theorem at 2018 value that could facilitate Redwan Hussein’s job…” oh on a second thought “ተማሒርኩም ኣለኹም” ከምዝብል ሳለሕ ጋዲ፡ ኣነ ወን ክምሕራኩም ካብ from further Babylonian or sumerian mathematics that is base sexadecimal. A sexy topic for later and NOW for THE
            THEOREM: At value 2018
            In order for Eritreans, in particular the traditional or Eritrean oppostion in general, to play a vital role in the safe guarding of Eritreas sovereignty and territorial integrity that guarantees total sucess inclusive of sustainable peace and prosperity and growth for Eritrea, Ethiopia and environs, the following MUST occur ASAP
            All Eritrean Opposition or at the very leas a number count of 5,040 Eritrean Opposition individuals are to petition and demand from Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed that he naturalizes them as former Eritreans tha are immediatly newly naturalized Ethiopian Citizens. Once issued full rights as newly naturalized Ethiopian citizens, they are to demand the recognition of their forming a new Unionist Political Party commited for the reunion of their former homeland Eritrea and Ethipia. BODMAS Medeber ydegemal? Ydegamal!
            Open for discussions and analysis.
            ወርቃዊት መጠን 1.618
            ጻጸ

          • Ismail AA

            Selam ጻጸ wed Hiwye,

            This input is worth as homework that will return me to the bounties of Persia. It is nice of you that you detect my agony in the so far futile little pursuit in search of a bridge fit to link the wisdom of the seniors with the energy of youth for mutual salvation.

            Your prescription is, rightly, for me to take solace in sources of wisdom as Jubran Khalil Jubran and the great Zoroaster of ancient/modern Persia. So, with your permission yours truly takes leave with the hope the novel game of politics by addition and subtraction would shape up to mean something worthwhile. Thanks again for your great input.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Solomon (Tsatse),

            I want you to insert your socio-political variables In the formula BODMAS [ ( ), of, ÷, ×, +, – ]*** for addressing the geopolitics of the horn as a counter argument to the PM’s simple addition formula in the effort to disprove it. Hint, all the socio-variables within the countries that goes into the addition formula of the Prime Minister to show him that it is not as simple as that.

            NB: The square bracket […….. ] is used for the containment to the mathematical symbols.

    • saay7

      FishMilk:

      And what exactly did he do with that power?
      * entangled the country in four wars (Ethiopia, Sudan, Djibouti, Yemen)
      * converted the country into a predatory state
      * exiled 14% of the population;
      * kept the country listed in the bottom 10 of the least developed countries (HDI)

      But to you, that he “outwitted” the opposition is more important to you than what he did once he outwitted us. You need to talk about opposition and TPLF because there is nothing you can point to by way of celebrating your IA.

      saay

      • FishMilk

        Hi saay7.As PIA was likely your benefactor, I should be asking you what exactly he did with his power. If the opposition would not have sided with the TPLF, if they would have exerted pressure on the TPLF to unconditionally respect the EEBC final & binding decisions, should they have vehemently complained against unjustified UN sanctions, etc.; a peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea would have been reached years ago.

        • saay7

          Haha Fishmilk:

          The reason Eritrea is in the mess it is in is because an illegal, exiled, out of power opposition (so disorganized and powerless it is often described as non-existent) was so powerful it affected what was happening in Eritrea for the last 20 years. A thing so powerless it might as well not exist was so powerful it changed everything 😂

          ኣይትሳኣኑ እንዳ ህግደፍ

          Saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. Yes! Absolutely correct! At least in part, the opposition must brunt part of the blame for which they have yet refused to accept!

          • saay7

            FishMilk:

            But what is this All Powerless But All Powerful opposition going to do once it accepts its non-existent share of the blame? Resign from its non-existent power?

            saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. Maybe you can ask Seyoum Mesfin for guidance. The TPLF might no longer be in a position to give you free lodging at the Sheraton Hotel in Addis Ababa, but they should be able to arrange something for you at the Planet Hotel in Mekele.

          • saay7

            FishMilk:

            Ah, now you have gone from vaguely interesting but so illogical he is accidentally funny to outright boring. Concentrate: a government in power is responsible for everything that happens under its watch. Good or bad. In your government’s case, all bad.

            saay

          • Selam FishMilk,

            You are such a weasle like you lot. Sure, as long as the opposition takes credit or blame you will accept that horrible has been Eritrea under the reigns of Isias and the PFDJ.
            Admiral “so powerless is often described as non existent” BRILLIANT!
            They don’t know the Maebel Aquarious that is rappidly gaining steam. Everything will backfire. They know they are in dire need of spin.
            Admiral Saay7 I believe FishMilk is sincerely requesting for your help. Don’t let up!

            I got a date with SJG now that Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paul is not around… ezen nay atSabiEti tSEtSEr muQtSar b tSAtSE abb zban Saleh Ghadi keragifennn.

            tSAtSE

          • FishMilk

            Hi GitSAtSe. Thank you very much brother! I also love you!

          • FishMilk

            Hi GitSAtSe. I love you too! I will even take you with me on a late night swim at Gargasum. Sharks seem to be fond of TPLF bait.

          • Blink

            Dear FM
            Your forgot one main and central part and that is opposition leadership were sure that Issaias will lose to TPLF and TPLF will take them to Asmara. Remember our opposition were rooting to get to power by affirmative action. Up until now there is no worthy opposition that can pull Eritreans from Issaias.

        • ghezaehagos

          Selam FishMilk,

          Kemey adi? Aman dyu?

          I haven’t read much of Awate lately. And this is the first time I am reading you.

          I think you are putting the blame on wrong party here. The opposition has nothing to do with the EEBC acceptance or rejection.

          If you think that would be landmark, see to it a major player at the opposition, the Selfi democracy and later EPDP, unequivocally supported the EEBC decision and its implementation. Seyoum O.Michael famously said the same.

          Awate Team itself wrote ‘the border decision must be upheld.’

          So, brother, it is not like the opposition didn’t call for it. If you ask ELF, they bled and died for Badme and Gomhalo. They had a history there.

          At any rate, it didn’t and wouldn’t make any difference because it was and is in the hands of the leaders in Asmara and Addis. True to that, without including the opposition, they came to agree on it…

          So, please gently move your index finger to….(ay BieDna…)

          Thanks,
          Ghezae

          • FishMilk

            Hi ghezaehagos. Were you not one of those who downplayed the importance of Badme and supported unjustified sanctions on Eritrea? While some in the opposition might have expressed support of the the EEBC decision and it implementation, they thereafter tried to trivialize the matter. To remind you of a few of your previsou quotes:
            ‘Our opposition is hurting; and that is the worst news for Eritrea. Because whether this opposition or not, it is only an OPPOSITION that saves a nation, such as Erena, from tyranny, death and Issais.’
            ‘As the events of the last 15 years, and the last 13 years (since April 2002) prove, no matter what we try, we will not be able to get Badme back through the implementation of the border verdict. ‘
            ‘Sanction has been a big interest of mine; chiefly because THAT IS THE BEST WE CAN do as Diaspora ‘deleyti fithi’ to abate the adventurist policies of the tyrant in Eritrea.’
            ‘The sanctions were result of Eritrea’s involvement in Somalia, and war with Djibouti.’
            ‘Finally, I wish the sanctions continue for domestic reasons; that is the human right violations inside Eritrea. We are progressing fine now towards that goal.’
            ‘Hence Isaias Afewerki must GO by ANY MEANS AVAILABLE.’

          • ghezaehagos

            FishMilik,

            I asked you to gently remove your index finger from the opposition.

            You did and pointed it at…..me.

            Just this: did you notice that you replied as if you have not read my response.

            1. I told you it don’t matter whether we supported EEBC; we have no power over it….and true to that, both governments sealed the deal; WITHOUT INCLUDING US..

            2. If you think it mattered (for some reason of yours), then I showed you EPDP consistently supported it…If you don’t support the tyrant and consider yourself ‘delay fithi’ and the border was close to your heart, you could have joined this opposition group.

            G.

        • iSem

          FishMilk:
          Now that Asseb has been unilaterally bestowed to Ethiopia, they will milk the Fish, how do u feel about that.
          You guys are piece of work, can I ask u a question, nay can i teach u a lesson. Do u know that Eritreans did not know about TPLF until IA brought them, now the revelation my Mesfin Hagos is an other slap in your face, bringing TPLF was in keeping with Tigrinya adage: መሬት ምስ ምሰያ ዝበኢ ናብ ገረቡ ሰብ ናብ ሰቡ
          And one day IA will leave you guys to hang high and dry, he already started with his generals, the arrest of Adi Abyeto prison tells u a lot
          And when IA, if he lives long enough makes his residence in Mekele, you do not have the guest to apologize as only gentlemen do that or commit suicide in shame, you will pivot like MS and you will tell we are one people, one country with one destiny and one history and one deity. You guys have no class, no honor, no

          • FishMilk

            Hi iSem. Sorry but I am not a PIA supporter and I have NEVER said that I support PIA or the PFDJ. I fully support much needed and long overdue reform of the GoE. However, I have been very critical of those in the opposition who over the past two decades have sided with the TPLF in their ‘at all costs’ efforts to overthrow the PIA/PFDJ regime, those that have supported unfair UN sanctions, those that have downplayed the importance of the EEBC border ruling, those who have remained silent while the TPLF tried to economically isolate and strangle Eritrea, and those who have failed to acknowledge military TPLF military offensives launched on Eritrea after the border war. And, I now find it a despicable act of desperation, for those same oppositionists to try to reincarnate the meaning of the TPLF earlier Five-Point Peace Plan to mean the same as the recent Ethiopian-Eritrean Peace Agreement.

  • Blink

    Dear Saba
    I think you forgot it is Ethiopian soldiers in Badme not Eritreans. It is only Ethiopian soldiers that has to withdraw from all militarised places .

    • Sam

      Hello Blink,

      I was being sarcastic.

  • Saleh Johar

    Thanks Daniel, glad you like it.

  • Nitricc

    Hi all; I think Eritrea should reject the new Ethiopian ambassador to Eritrea. He is a bad choice to the very promising start. I am a little concerned about PMAA’s choices. For instance, peace love and forgiveness might work in churches or religious treats but in politics, especially African one, you better backed it up with big stick and reliable gun. Last night I was watching PIA’s visit to Ethiopia on you-tube and I have no idea why Aba-Dula has to sit next to PIA? I mean, PMAA has to make clear cut. I understand that he wants to do in a human way and with love but he dead wrong. there few things PMAA needs to learn from PIA such as having alerted and aggressive body guards, get rid of people don’t belong to the new beginning and have a strong stick. Any way, PIA please reject the Ethiopian ambassador, please!!!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Nitric,
      Can you explain why he should e rejected?

      • Nitricc

        Hey SJ; I let you watch it and judge for yourself but why is he, PMAA recycling people? It is a country of 100 million people, he can’t find somebody? I know this their business but PMAA moves are confusing as well as concerning. If PMAA is going change Ethiopia then he has to depart from the old and corrupted system. PMAA is sending very confusing signals and I don’t think it is helpful for his journey to bring change in the country. Watch the clip and you can delete it.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZYQ7S1Hpm4

        • Peace!

          Nitric,

          You are begging for DIA, not PMAA, to reject him, and we are asking WHY? Your above comment is just BS, try one more time!

          Peace!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Nitrickay,

      Don’t worry about the big stick. Either he (the PM) will learn it from him (the despot) slowly but surely, or he will become the “horse to ride on” the despot to do by himself all the dirties like the past. Ethiopians could not learn how he (the despot) used TPLF to play the dirty in the Eritrean politics and helped him to control the Eritrean politics. The “chest beating” and his remark of “one people” has many dirty ploys incarnated in it. Just wait and have patience. A dictator can not be a peace loving animal. He is a cruel animal who took many lives in four and half decades since 1973. Also soon you will hear and learn the Eritrean army dispatched in the heart land of Ethiopia. For what purpose, you guess it.

      • Peace!

        Hi Emma,

        People in this forum treat Nitric like a toddler, not that he is physically is but he is a victim of Nihna Nisu Nisu Nihana parents. He is being mentored to support DIA not for ideological reason, but for he simply hates MUSLIMS. SAAY tries to babysit him for years, but apparently it is too late perhaps bigotry has already reached his blood. Read his comments when AL-DIA school teenage students protested and arrested, he wished them bullet like that TPLF did to peaceful Oromo protestors.

        Do you think Nitric is a kid, if he is, then SHAME on his parents.

        Peace!

      • saay7

        Hey Emma and all:

        It only took 27 years for him to speak out but Mesfin Hagos finally dropped da bomb that IA wanted a joint gov with Meles (ie Eritrea as a province of Ethiopia) and proposed it to the Secret Party of EPLF after its central committee meeting in Afabet in February 1991.

        So now we can understand the state of euphoria he was in in Addis Abeba.

        All it took was exiling arresting disappearing all who opposed it and enlisting a sheeple, bots who mumble “Nehna Nsu.”

        Check out SBS radio, Tigrinya language.

        saay

        • iSem

          Hi Sal:
          This revelation does two things: 1. Mesfin is not in IA’s bag and 2. corroborates what some Eritreans were saying for a long time and MZ was telling the truth

          What does the supporters here say, we know what dawit wills say but the rest, they will say Mesfin is lying . I guess ur cuziest cuz will deny Mesfin’s contribution as he did of Beraki’s leadership and Affa’s leadership in the war in 1977/78 to liberate keren
          And what does the congratulating MS say

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Isem, when I was in Eritrea back in the 90’s way before the G15 finally rose to the occassion, I was hearing from people that Gen. Mesfin Hagos was always the one with guts to confront DIA. Even during the 1993 protests of the Tegadelties, Mesfin was said to be instrumental. I got confirmed today about his courage from the horse’s mouth with the interview he made with sbs. Alas! Eritrea must have had so many guys like Mesfin Hagos; we would not have ended up being the mere toys of DIA.

          • Desbele

            Selam Abraham,

            I just cant understand why he didnt share this information before.
            Even now after the interviewers persistence.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Desbele, there are indeed many intriguing questions about this issue. Mesfin Hagos says, the meeting was not for discussing the issue, but a kind of informing dia’s selected confidants about a finished deal. He also says, he didn’t know personally about the issue before that meeting, and didn’t know whether anyone in the meeting knew about it. If the story is true, I think it could be corroborated by current or former eprdf leaders who might have taken part in that deal, unless the deal was precisely between Isayas and Meles only.
            Mesfin Hagos says, the other participants in the meeting, all his seniors in the leadership, where silent about this rather dramatic information from dia; could it be they were already informed, and agreed with the plan? And why did Isayas choose only few members of the eplf cc? May be he was just testing the waters, to see if that idea was acceptable within the top leadership? Many questions, indeed. I hope Mesfin Hagos gets the help of some writters to narrate his experience in the eplf in book form, probably he is one of the very few people we have who know the close history and ambitions of dia.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Desbele,

            I can think of:

            1) timing: it would have sounded “sour loser’s statement” had he said it earlier. He probably waited until there were enough clues people can see.

            2) He probably thought that it makes no difference. He knew his followers would be defensive as they are to anything coming from the opposition and that he believed the opposition is not in a position to use it effectively.

            Imagine if this was 10+ years ago and PIA in response says “ከም
            ኣማራጺ ሓሳብ ኣልዒልናዮ ነይርና፤ ይኹንድኣ’ምበር ብሓርነት ኤርትራ ኣይተቋመርናን ኣይንቋመርን ከኣ” I am sure his supporters and the “silent majority” would have believed it. I would have.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            We shall see how the so called ultranationalist will react to his interview including my friend Mahmuday, as if they know their boss very well , but never failed to blackmail the true nationalist.

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            I am waiting for Teg.MS to react to MH’s nuclear and did you hear MH said, the select central community who IA shared with were senior to him, meaning they were political bureau members: sherifo, Petros, Haile, Romdan, Sebhat etc and they said nothing, MH disagreed with him
            What I heard long time ago was IA raised the issue when they were working on the ref. questions, IA wanted to introduced/include a third option, some sort of confederation, I heard that some challenged him, but I guess what i heard was a corrupted version of what MH revealed

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Saay,

          Buddy, Wow! Wow! The chest beating and eliciting his love to the Ethiopian people by kissing his hand, is indeed the reaction to the long awaiting “dream” the two people making them “one people”, and thus he was in the Eritrean ghedli to liberate Ethiopia and not to liberate the Eritrean people. Thank you Sal, I will listen after work, later this evening. By the way Mesfun has to come forcefully to tell the public all the secret deals of the past to liberate and untangle himself from the circle of Issayas.

          • saay7

            Emma:

            Well, good luck to us on Mesfin Hagos sharing what he knows. If SBS radios Beyene had not been persistent and asked questions like a respectful lawyer teasing it out of a witness, the info would never have come out, even now.

            Mesfin is more comfortable denying what he doesn’t know than sharing what he knows.

            saay

          • iSem

            Emma:
            Are you that shocked? I am shocked not that IA proposed it but he got away with it. Now what SAAY said about IA being bored with tiny Eritrea is obsolete, he was never interested in it to begin with.

          • saay7

            Hi iSem:

            In the interview, Mesfin describes IA as an emotional guy (ስምዒት ይቕድሞዩ), ie he is not in control of his emotions. With that mind check out his video on Eritrea’s Independence Day (happy), Eritrea’s Referendum (proforma “mission accomplished” seriousness); 1991 (somberinterview with Ethiopian journalists about confederation (beaming)and IA in Addis this month (jubilant.) Eritrea was the consolation prize, the grand prize for him was always Ethiopia.

            But the man, as emotional as he is, devoid of humanity. Here’s a spot on message from a friend:

            Have you noticed PIA because blowing kisses and touching heart is alien to him, when he meant to touch his heart he touches near his throat; when he intends to blow a kiss, he looks like he is wiping his nose and when he talks about love he describes it as if it is some rumor of a thing that may exist: ከምዚ ክበሃል ዝቀነየ ፍቕሪ

            saay

          • iSem

            Thanks Sal:
            Your friend is on to something. It was weird seeing IA so giddy, I guess jubilant is the apt one. Now Mesfin has eloquently and calmly, sagaciously, eruditely dropped the nuclear bomb, thanks to Beyene. But Beyene almost was quitting when MH went gobo gobo then Beyene asked more.
            Have u noticed these days I am into adverbs and redundantly so 😉

          • Kaddis

            Hi iSem
            With the risk of sounding harsh; one question always come to my mind since the referendum; was the Eritrean elite ever interested in living in Eritrea?

          • David Samson

            Selam Kaddis,

            Isias told them in no uncertain terms, he does not need any Muhur.
            I am a leader of Maoist and the country does not need spoiled brats.

          • Kaddis

            Hi David.
            Just wandering could it be a social behaviour? For example Gurage have very strong attachment with their birth place. They invest, celebrate holidays, marry second wife at home etc ..
            The Amhara is weak and prefer to dominate at their new settlement ፦)
            For Eritreans I wanted to know

          • David Samson

            Selam Kaddis,
            No, whatever image you have is stereo typed. There is no nothing about us to be unique. As Michela Wrong said, “It is good to be normal”.

            The Gurage thing is migrants’ mind-set. Migrants usually long for home. They have nostalgia for home, despite few of them actually return, they are still attached to their roots. The Amhara do not see themselves as Immigrant where ever the live in Ethiopia. Their attachment is to the entire land called Ethiopia.

            I have many Ethio friends, some of them for years. Back in 90s, just before Megentel, according to my friends, Eritreans were known as miserable lot, whose only past-time was politics. My Ethio friends could not understand why we did not chill out. Unlike Americans whose past time is in Movies and Star bucks, in here, we relax in pubs. Fast forward the time, the role of chill out is now reversed. I now take the mickey of my Ethio friends. Their only past-time now is-politics. How cruel time is! Yet, what is more depressing is, they are divided along the Ethnic lines. They are all “Amhara”- well the speak Amharic. I am sure they are concerned about their country or Ethnic group, so the point is the “Amhara” are the same as others.

          • Kaddis

            Hi David – thank you for your time –
            Yeah; you will see more ciaos in the diaspora politics as Abiy comes your way.
            Cheers,

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Kaddis,
            Being “normal” people, we have both characteristics 🙂

          • iSem

            Hi Kaddis:
            Your question is deeper than meets the eye.
            The elites were the students and students were idealists so yes the wanted Eritrea, but then these elites were supplanted by the IA elites who never wanted to separate, hence my theory of the Ghedli was hijacked long time ago, not in 2001 with PFDJ

        • Ismail AA

          Hayek Allah says,

          I believe this was proposed by the Americans around the time of the London meeting. But I think the disorderly collapse of the Derg army overwhelmed laying down the necessary ground to sell the scheme. The time allotted to as the run-up to the referandum included the time to explore the idea. But for Isayas the hurdle could have been who was to sit at driving seat. He could have felt the odds were too formidable to surmount with the competence the Tplf leadership enjoyed under Melee Zenawi considerably bolstered by EPRDF coalition. In other words, Isayas could have calculated disadvantaged potentially and demoraphically. Add to that the depth of Eritrean patriotism as Mesfin Hagos stressed and expressed by him at the meeting he mentioned.

          Thus, time was something Isayas needed to weaken internal nationalist and find ways to overcome the Tplf leadership. We can understand the irreconcilibly entrenched hostility with Tplf leadership that led to the destructive war whose core objective was to prevail to Melee Zenawi and his circle. Of course the risk ended in debacle that stayed for 16 years. Now, other developments on the Ethiopian scene seem to have changed Isayas’ calculations. His way of reacting to Dr. Abiy’s overture cannot be understood otherwise. Anyway, it interesting that Mesfin spoke at last after long reservation.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Saay,

          I am not shocked. Some unanswered questions I had are partially answered assuming Ayte Mesfin’s account is true.

          1. PIA never failed to entertain the idea of federation ever since the seventies.

          2. This may not sound as bullet proof evidence, but there was one unwritten rule in the naming of political organizations in the seventies. Those that had secession/independence as their main objective did not include the word “People” or to a lesser degree the word “Democratic” in their names. Do not discard this naming thing. It was very important in those days because that was how people use to initially evaluate what a given organization’s objectives were.

          ELF, TLF, OLF, ONLF were unequivocally for secession or independence. TPLF, EPRP, EDU, and later, OPDO, ANDM, SEPDM, SPDP, and etc were and are not for independence. EPLF was the odd man out!

          3. This one is a cheap shot but I will give it some consideration until proven otherwise. PIA knew TPLF overwhelmingly supported Eritrean independence. After exhaustive discussion on the subject, the great majority of voters (representatives from tegaleti and unions) supported it and it became part and parcel of TPLF’s laws.
          So, all this time we have been taking Eritrean independence seriously and now I can’t help it but wonder “what if he hates ‘Weyane’ partially for that reason?”

          • Selam Fanti,

            Personally I choose not to give too much stock on Isaias wants and desires. This convenitiently timed utterance by Mesfun Hagos to hype up Isaias “medemer” could have a lot more effect on every player in the game. I have a funny feeling the next phase would begin with: “Why not one nation?” “Why not andinet?” A certain YG probably will lead as he more than likely prepared three trilogies (and we know how looong one of his entries is) and numerous personalities will break their shyness and endorse the “Why not andinet?”

            I mean trully ask all of you do these times seem conducife for a one state solution for Eritrea and Ethiopia and a Two state solution for Israel and Palestine? The Isaias zombies will not take much for them to get on board. As soon as Isu adamantly and emphatically says “Why not one nation one people?” is the order of the day, instantaneously they will all hum Isu is a genius…. And as for what we call opposition: well they have been enamoured with Ethiopia from within Ethiopia and far for the past 18 plus years for them to mount any sincere rejection of the idea “why not one nation one state? “lemin Aand hager Aand hizbouch?”

            Quite frankly, I am feeling maybe that is the just end of the entire two decades plus debacle.
            Forces have been at overtime work for over two decades to wither away at the euphoric newly liberated Eritrea nationalism/ultra nationalists of the early 90s.
            If the Eritrean Opposition desires to assert itself, then they should campaign on the platform of “Why not Aand Hager Aand Hizbouch?” by presenting it immediately to PMAAA. Yes Eritrean Oppostion should starting now spearhead Union above Federation of the Two States. One Nation One People. Then with Isaias on deck, what hypocritical and brainless zombies would the pfdjites feel like for they would be obliged to follow their leader and endorse it. So much for the maintining and defending sovereign land…

            And if you think I am mereley being hyper immaginative GUESS again, for in the next several weeks UNIONISTS will comprise of 75 percent or more (of Eritreans only) medemer Ethiopians will feel like 99.8%.
            Some one said earlier “we are like meeting anew in 1991, hi my name is ethiopia, hi my name is eritrea…” something to that effect. Well since it is starting over, I suppose we can do the referrundum again in say Six month to a year. After all its PMAAA wrist watch dictating.
            let me stop here… but you heard it first here: UNIONISTS are in the lead. For the Zombies welll Isu nsu nihna nisu wanted it from the get go! how bad can union with ethiopia be, How about we phrase it Ethiopia union with Eritrea…. new name design Erithopia.

            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Brotherey GitSAtSE,

            I concur! One eye should be kept for a lookout for all possible motives. I hope to God Mr. Mesfin is not ‘playing politics’ as opposed to telling the truth, at least being true to his recollection of events, for the sake of my own faith in humanity.

            If this indeed is “a well-timed” fabrication, regardless of the amount of mileage that will be gained from it, it will ultimately backfire with vengeance. It is not only a bad idea politically but also will erase Mr. Mesfin’s credibility forever. This move is, as Eritreans used to say, the ultimate ወይ ክብ ወይ ግብ for him.

            Interesting take on the opposition switching gear to “Unionism,” I had to laugh!

          • saay7

            Selam Fanti:

            Ummm, have you been ok, lately?

            What in the history of Mesfin Hagos suggests that he has ever manufactured anything?

            saay

          • Selam Admiral,

            It takes 25,920 years for the precessions of the equinoxes, motion of the equinoxes along the ecliptic (the plane of Earth’s orbit) caused by the cyclic precession of Earth’s axis of rotation. ..

            Dividing 25,920 by 360, 72 years is equal to one degree of rotation. Every 30 degrees or 2,160 years a new constelation or age will rise in the horizon before sunrise. The current age of age of Pices (New king
            with the birth of the new star (constelations) said the Maji from Pursia to the dismay of King Herod…) and before Pices was the age of the Ram, hence the Hebrew blowing the horn of the Ram for a new day… And we are about to commence the age of Aquarios.

            More importantly is tha Isaias isu nsu nihna isu has completed One degree 1/30th of the tail end Pices era AND ask Eiuoor iSEM if he knows why in compound interest Rule of 72 doubles your money? Why on 4/20 1972 Nassa launched into space a special mission? Why US Presiden Benjamin Franklin was a double agent spie for the Red coats code named No. 0072? Hence Blue and Red Stripes and 13 Star Spangled Banner? And why Brgied 72 lead Peteros Solomon?
            My name is Solomon and dear Saay7 brace yourself for FishMilks big announcement with news of the freeing of Political and Concientious Prisoner Teg. Petros Solomon. 7Duces…

            Now, I was just warming up for Mr. SaliH Johar Gadi to do some or lots of Medemer Mathematics that you will see right away AND I see your:

            “What in the history of Mesfin Hagos suggests that he has ever manufactured anything?” Lest I pull a contridiction statement of yours several comments up or down, I will simply state my gladness in catching your sarcasm on time. Well played by posing it as a question.

            Onto SJG and Mathematics as Ayya Amanuel has been anticipating a response.

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam solomon,

            Go for “BODMAS” please.

          • Selam Ayya Amanuel,

            What Eritreans and Ethiopians call BODMAS at PS 125 on 123rd Street between Amsterdam and Morning Side we just called order of operations. Now I did get PMAAA speech and his “ydegemal” signature working the youth crowd, as in ha ha hu hu hi hi…

            But the medemer of PMAAA and overall brackets consisting of his vision and his order of operations though can use some final tuning, I believe is well thought out given all the variables under consideration. I do intend to tackle BODMAS and even Vedic Mathematics as well as Sumerian Base 60 math…. SJG is already ordering his asprin…

            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            As a principle, a claim this profound needs to be verified and re-verified regardless of who is saying it. In a nutshell, that is what I meant. Sorry if it came out any other way

          • saay7

            Selamat Fantiness:

            The tone used was very unFanti.

            In general, if anybody has ever heard or read Mesfin Hagos, his valor in the battlefield is matched only by his extreme caution when narrating history. He knows history is entangled and there is a lot of collateral damage when you narrate it. In this particular case, he says IA presented the case (joint govt with EPRDF) not just as a proposal but a fait accomplis. And when he did, Mesfin deferred to those who were more senior than him in the hierarchy of the secret party to speak and when they didn’t, and his turn came, he asked IA to repeat the proposal and then said that was unacceptable considering all the sacrifices paid for independent Eritrea. His reluctance for telling this story is probably because the collateral damage here are his colleagues, now wasting away in Eira Eiro as their silence was consent to IA.

            Why this story always sounded credible to me is because of MZ interview with Paul Henze around that time frame where he says IA is being pressured to declare independence and his subsequent discussions with US ambassador to Ethiopia (prior to the 1998 war) that Eritrea was going to come back to Ethiopia.

            The third piece you introduced, that TPLF was enthusiastically for Eritrean independence is interesting and now, to me, Aboy Sebhats claim the TPLF (during those years) advocates for Eritrea more than the EPLF did, may be accurate with one correction: replace EPLF with Isaias Afwerki and those who, by being silent, were willing to go along with a form of co-governance with Ethiopia.

            And of course, it explains Isaias Afwerkis jubilation heart-tugging and kiss-blowing in Addis. Even his Nehna Nsu obedient and adoring fans never got that——ever.

            saay

          • Tesfu

            Hi saay,
            Sorry to interrupt you here once again. Was he with G-15 or not? how did he get out of Asmara while the rest got arrested? ( the regime) let him go so that he will rot in foreign country. Will be big headache because to military attachment.
            Do not shy to say what is in your mind

          • saay7

            Selamat Tesfu:

            1. Yes he was with G-15
            2. No he wasn’t the only member of G-15 who didn’t get arrested. The following were not:
            (a) Ambassador Adhanom Gebremariam
            (b) Ambassador Haile Menkorios
            (c) Mohammed Berhan Blata
            (d) Mesfin Hagos

            In the fight for justice, its more productive to focus why the arrested were arrested than why those who weren’t weren’t.

            saay

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Tesfu, from what I heard Mesfin Hagos saying, at the time of the arrest of the G15, he was outside Eritrea for medical treatment. I think the regime used the opportunity that opened right after the September 11 terror attack in New York, to crackdown on the dissidents. While the attention of the enrire world was focused on the terrible New York terror, DIA saw an opportunity to arrest his opponents. I even remember Mesfin Hagos tried to return to Eritrea after the arrest, but he was stopped in Germany, because the Eritrean regime annuled his travel documents.

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Fanti,
            What are you doing here? It looks everybody else left for the Mekelle meeting?:-) 🙂 🙂

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Awatista and also a good friend of mine texted me jokingly saying, if my leave of absence from the forum was to be at the conference in Meqele. Funny enough, wish we had one in Asmara where the panel is presided over by Sal and Gheteb. Would’ve been a debate of its kind! Hats off for both. Really!

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Paul,
            That is very funny. If Fanti or another was to ask me who do you know, I was prepared to answer “I don’t want ptoblems with Paulos. In the 70s Paulos NoNo ኞኞ was asked ከዘፋኞ ትልቅ ኣፍ ማነው. And he answered ከማሕሙድ ጋር እንዳታጣሉኝ.
            I also wish that was case in Asmara. እንተተጌሩ ኣነን ንስኻን ተዓጢቕና ከነሳሲ ኢና።

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            Ha ha ha ha. Of course, of course Hailat ሓወይ ብዓጀባ’ምበር and that day ain’t far.

          • iSem

            Paulo:
            welcome back. here are ten thing that happened in your short absence that felt long
            There is a tradition here, when a beloved member like Fanti and Paul and also Hayat are absent we update them as a courtesy so
            in your absence;
            1. Gheteb barfed a lot, exhausting all the Latin words he memorized because Sal was on him with facts, the facts, data driven Sal was lethal, not fire breathing like Gheteb but he was breathing Datum ( just to use singular Latin)
            2. Gheteb’s feeling was hurt that I said he has lots of time because he us unable
            3. And Mesfin H, true to his nature detonated a bomb on IA
            4. Gheteb and Tsatse divoreced
            5. Fanti stumbled and steadied hims self in a flash, remains a gentleman
            6. prof Emma developed humor, Sal succeed because it was one of his projects
            7. Ghezae Hagos listed the names of all PFDJ’s prison, one is named Gheteb
            8.iSem and Amde disagreed for the first time. Good thing
            9. iSem has prophesy: PMAA will soar so high, cocky and believing that God will speak to him in tongues flew closer to the Sun and his wings will burn like Icarus
            10. MS privoted and congratulated IA for finally finding that his heart was in his throat,libey wutif elatini

          • Paulos

            Selam Semerile,

            Grazie mille fratello mio! Indeed a week in a nutshell. It is frightening in the sense that what we thought was a tongue in cheek is almost real given Mesfin Hagos’ beans where they are finally spilled and more if push comes to shove.

            More over, the Tartars are coming! If anything, what we saw yesterday at the airport was a Tigrinya dialect with Amharic in the mix ready to do business including in rural Eritrea. And only heaven knows if the laborers will be the mobilized and the new boses—enemies of the yesteryears. Maybe YG was spot on when he said, ሻዕብያ ነ’ስመራ ክትረክብ ንሳሕል ወሪዳ ንሳሕል ክትረክብ ነ’ስመራ ተመሊሳ!

          • Abi

            Hi iSem
            With your permission Let me add one more major event to your list.

            Eritreans smoothly transformed themselves from silent majority to confused majority. Now that is called silently confused!

          • iSem

            Hi Abi

            That did not happen in awate, and Dr. Paul knew about that, it happened in Mekele where Paul passing by

          • gebremedhin yohannes

            hi Abi
            your are vulgar, tasteless, you are insulting the whole population of Eritrea, i don’t know how the moderator allow this to happen.your hate for Eritrea is startling.if you think you are joking this is cheap and trashy.
            what are you doing among the confused by the way?
            Mihret yewrdelka
            yirdaeka

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,

            That is very funny..Ha Ha Ha,,Now you will see the next few days..

            KS,,

          • Fanti Nation,,

            “Interesting take on the opposition switching gear to “Unionism,” I had to laugh!”

            You think so do you? Well to be honest I am finding Deoxyribonucleic acid a molecule composed of two chains – nucleotides more interesting. To give it context though, (I forsee a headache for my friend SJG a little later)
            Its about Superpositioning and Entanglement, the duality of slim jim or dried beef jerkeys like OUR quanTa siga… I am adapting Schroedinger dumu and not dumu dumu though we have a dead and a live cat TWO cats. Yes quanTa knqrTim quantum fisiks or ADMAS medemer time.. see me at SJG’s thread.

            Interesting take? See me also in a month time. It is PMAAA supper fast wrist watch erra ya know.

            tSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Tsatse Arkey,

            Would you say it is a coincidence or got copied from us when the brainy people came up with ቋንጣ to describe the world of probabilities where here and now loses its meaning.

            A meat loaf as in ስጋ ብዕራይ can be ቋንጣized. The rationale goes if you bombard a sheet of metal with an intense light, electrons can be knocked out from one energy level to a lower energy level as such, energy is not assigned any random number but exactly equal to the frequency of the intense light multiplied by Planck’s constant.

            And we have ኣደይ ኣመተ ብቐጢን ዝተመትረ ስጋ ሰጢሐን ብጻሓይ ነቒጹ ናብ Quanta ከምዝቕየር ይገብረኦ….

          • Selam Denmarkino AArkey Professor Paul,

            The first medember teaser for SJG will be to prove 1+1 = 1 1+1 does not equal two. a photon through the two slits is in two places at the same time but the particles (same) in two different places at the same time when observed is again 1 particle. This being the hint for SJF Aand Medemer Aand hulet aydelem, Aand medemer Aand Aand neow.

            Enibla abren QuanTa Strings Siga… forget gored gored… 🙂

            tSAtSE

          • Paulos

            Tsatse Arkey,

            I used to tutor high school students pretty much all the sciences and of course this was back in the days way before Khan Academy gave it away for free. And the analogy I used was the ice-cream cornet or cone. If you look at it from the front view, it is a circle but from the side, it looks like a cone. That is, it is a cone and a circle simultaneously like the photon when it is a particle and at the same time a wave as well.

            The other analogy I used was a pair of socks to illustrate the entanglement nature of the particle. The minute you decide one of the pairs of socks to be for your left foot, immediately the other remaining sock becomes for your right foot [This in fact has a profound insight about the nature of information as in the information about either socks depends on one another—-everything and anything around us is information. And hope to comment about it in the future.]

          • Alex

            Hi tSAtSE,

            Wake up from your bad dream. There will be no union between Ethiopia and Eritrea. We were part of Ethiopia from 1960-1991 and we know what happen.

          • Acria

            Selam Alex,

            It is easier than you think. If we had let Assab go to Ethiopia, I doubt we will have the horrible wars between the two countries. Now, it looks like Ethiopia will have full access to Assab. I don’t know under what conditions though. On the other hand, our PIA have been treating Eritreans poorly since independence that, any alternative that might seem a better deal may suddenly become popular. Could this have been the work of our PIA after all these years?

          • Acria

            Hello GitSAtSE,

            You are right of the percentage of Eritreans opting for uniting with Ethiopia. I have myself have been entertaining that idea long time ago. Obviously, not because I love Ethiopia ( I don’t hate it either), it came out of frustration during and after independence. I was hoping then and I am hoping now that the Eritrean people may get a break from what has been happening. I believe Eritreans can get freedom of economy, freedom of movement, freedom of some sort of government choice when joined with Ethiopia under one country or some sort of federation.

            I came to this conclusion because it is very difficult to control 110 million people than 5-6 million people. I have asked some people that I know in Asmara about this idea, they are in favor because they think that anything is better than what they have at this time. I know that is sad but reality. My only concern with this concept it that Ethiopia has too many moving parts. Let me be clear, I am for one, free, and democratic Eritrea, if we can achieve it. With right leadership, Eritrea will be an amazing democracy. How and when, those are difficult questions to grasp with. That is why unity seems an easy solution to our problems.

          • Selam Acria,

            At present at best I am arguing as you are and maybe by induction I too have said maybe the just end to these horendous decades is Medemer. But as I was born in Sewra and grew up in Sewra I thought the next generation can entertain pragmatism….
            And we have by deduction some Eritrean dignitaries, Dr, Berket comes to mind who have been entertaining the why not co federation.
            Look I will get it of my chest: Eritrea has been independent for 27 years yet I have not benefited in the simple reunification with my father a Tegadalay now in his nineties. I am yet to see independent Eritrea nor my father and maybe I will never do. If the referendum was to be held now more than likely I would give it extensive thought as you would be fore casting my vote. As it stands I would choose Independence of course but in the coming month the flood gates are opening for the more than 75 percent of Eritreans choosing for cofederation or reunion. Consequences of the ineptness and maybe even purposful errosion of Eritreanism by numerous internal and external forces. The YOUTH are the target now, the iron is hot and strike they will.
            And we know whatever Isu nisu nihna isu folks will applaud as genius such a decision – we have been entreate already this past week where their leanings are.. ….

            Eritrea is an idea! it shall never be annexed don’t worry…but but…

            tSAtSE

          • Abi

            Fantish
            IA hates both TPLF and the people of Eritrea for getting in his way from becoming president of Ethiopia with Eritrea as a province. Meles played him very well. He facilitated everything thing leading to and after the referendum.
            There was an article in Tobiya magazine in mid 90s how IA was frustrated by the whole situation.
            I’m not surprised you guys are 25 years SLOW!!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abisha,

            President Isaias ተግደርዳሪ ሙሽሪት መሆኑን በግዜው ብናውቅ
            ኑሮ!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Fanti,

            Ha ha. It is a good thing we didn’t know, we were innocently willing to put our heads on the chopping block.
            Somebody up there was looking out for us.

            Mr. K.H

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Saay (Aya Adi-U),

          I listened the interview of Mesfun Hagos. He confirmed that the despot’s dream “was and is” to have one Government that unite Ethiopia and Eritrea. He was entertaining about it to his colleagues since 1991. Actually in his interview with “Hiwiet” in 1994, he also expressed similar view when they asked him on the going relationship between Ethiopia and Eritrea at that time. He told them whether you call it federation or confederation, their relationship will grow in to a borderless relationship.

          Actually, from his interview, since he was the only person who objected the idea from the leadership of the party in 1991, at that particular meeting, it is imperative for me to conclude that, the rest members of the politburo have given him the green light to go ahead. Otherwise, he wouldn’t go for an interview to inform the public about the nature of the relationship his government and the Ethiopian Government pursuing as a goal in 1994.

          So the current move between the two governments is beyond “peace agreement” to create “one Government” the same idea he floated it and shared it with his colleagues in 1991. Now, where is FishMilk? Do you support such kind idea as veteran of the Eritrean struggle? Should one person decide the fate of our nation? If yes, why? If no what will be you role to stop this egomaniac despot?

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            These are obviously uncertain times where the horizon is anything but. Assenna was reporting that as per an anonymous Ethiopian diplomat, Isaias is seriously sick. If one is clever enough to align the pieces, perhaps Isaias is up to something to rewrite his legacy before the obituary insists to narrate the dark history of his past life.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Hawey,
            I hope this prophet who arrived in Asmara will not pray for him and save him from his natural departure (the second time). ZeyHalfela chiru’s meskerm t’Awr.

          • saay7

            Abrehet:

            It’s part of the Five Pillar declaration the two countries signed: a prophet exchange program. We sent them one for three days and he was speaking in tongues. Now their turn. Be hospitable

            saay

      • kogne

        hi ema, how the despot used TPLF to play in Eritrean politics, I think you talking eplf & elf civil war, my brother don’t blame the despot ,you have to blame your ELF commanders at that time, elf is more in numbers than eplf but very weak leaders to lead the war, also its smartest way if you engage in war you cant tell your opponent what to do ,what kind weapons to use,your opponent can bring some one to help him TPLF, EPRP etc.the despot and his military commanders are very smart at that time to get help from TPLF and kick you out from Eritrean land , elf deserve to be kicked out from Eritrea, I don’t think we can get our independence if ELF didn’t kick out from Eritrea, they are obstacles at that time, in front eplf fighting enemy in the back also fighting ELF, two wars at the same time, but after elf kicked out from Eritrean soil,eplf is fighting only Ethiopian army and liberate the whole Eritrea and that’s why we have our sovereighn country today

        • Blink

          Dear Kongs
          At that time most ELF leaders I mean the top once were outside the war zone. Most of the time ELF leaders were outside the danger zone too. But i believe ELF was and still must be remembered as the engine of Eritreans independence. We can’t just see the existence of EPLF outside ELF work. ELF fighters bleed and died for Eritrea . The organization can not be defined by the Meles admirer in this forum. The organization was with full of heroes and I think it would be a mistake to paint ELF as outsiders in the independence of Eritrea.

          I believe it was EPLF top brass people failure to invite them in to Eritrea and listen to what they can say , even include them in the ranks of the government. I think EPLF leaders made a big big mistake for not giving space for their colleagues of ELF. I think that is still costing Eritreans in the opposition too. Don’t look at the Meles admirer because he is not even that much that important to listen too about this .

          • kogne

            hi blink , I understood what you mean, I was ELF fighter at that time, until korokon tahday, I don’t deny ELF contribution to Eritrean independence, but I don’t agree when some one blaming EPLF for ELF failure, he have to blame ELF commanders, thanks

      • Selam Amanuel H.,

        It is really difficult to understand why DIA at 73 is still presented as omnipotent, invisible and a mastermind, even when somebody drags him out of his hiding place and tries to put him in the limelight. No wonder nobody dared to face him all these years.

        If eplf and tplf used each other and at the end became deadly enemies, this usually is what happens when two scoundrel engage in a dirty cooperation of one sort or other. But, this time it is different. Early 1990s are the same.

        The only thing he can do in this case is to backtrack on the peace deal and return to his small recess and become a hermit. He is not going to decide on the political, economic or military policy of ethiopia in any way imaginable. PM Abiy for his own good will not allow him to meddle in ethiopian internal affairs. This time ethiopia is acting from a place of strength and not weakness. If DIA shows his old character, he will be shown the way out, which unfortunately will bring eritrea to square one.

        Can eritreans use this opportunity to organize and demand for more freedom and democracy on their own, instead of condemning whatever little things PMAA is trying to do? Has anybody seen any demonstration against the peace deal anywhere in the world by the opposition, explaining to the world community why it is against the deal. The big job, that of making the best out of the deal and deposing the dictator, still lies with eritreans.

        “A dictator can not be a peace loving animal”, very true. Nevertheless, when there is nobody else around for a peace deal, one is forced to sit on the negotiation table with DIA, Kim Jong Un and any other dictator.

        “Eritrean army dispatched in the heartland of Ethiopia.” May be to Yemen. Otherwise, it will be a one way ticket for them. Change in ethiopia came with the blood of many young people, and they are ready to defend it. If PMAA tries to become DIA, then that will be a suicidal decision for him. Let us say that at least for the time being DIA is under the influence of PMAA.

        • FishMilk

          Hi Horizon. When did PIA turn 73? Last time I checked he was the same age as Trump.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Horizon,

          I and Amanuel Hidrat do have misunderstandings on many occasions. I don’t understand exactly what he meant and vise versa.
          So, I have to leave it to our shortcomings in communication skills.

          Regardless, there is a sort of a general narrative being developed. PFDJites got their cues and are dancing and praising their infallible leader. He won again.
          The opposition are looking for ways to transfer the Eritrean problem to Ethiopia. There is even a reference to IA as PMAA’s Nsu.

          Don’t be surprised to hear from some quarters that anything that goes wrong in Eritrea from this point forward is because Ethiopia did or did not do something. That was and is the loop they end up with.

          Mr. K.H

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Kim,
            Do you remember any Eritrean problem that didn’t originate in Ethiopia or where Ethiopia was not part of ? I leave you with that for the past.

            But now, your prime minister is rehabilitating our tormented, so, 1) how would you like Eritreans to react and would you if were in our place? 2) can you morally approve of your government siding with a declared tyrant when his victims have been subjected to hell for over two decades? 3) what is the special peace Ethiopia gets from the dictator that it can’t get from his victims, the people? 4) please add any legitimate question you could think of.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            Let me try to answer your questions
            1) Eritreans are reaching with jubilation!! They are saying “PEACE at last “.
            2) my government is working with Eritrean government to bring about a lasting peace and solidarity in the region.
            3) the people to people peace is already blooming unless by ” people ” you mean the oppositions that have been parked at Addis and Mekele for years.
            4) what do you think should have been done?
            5) If you are not satisfied blame it on my low IQ.
            Yeqenyeley

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Abi,
            First, thank you for volunteering, but I asked Horizon and I would rather wait for his reply

            Then, I will never blame you IQ, it’s so high I dare not. But I do blame it on your MQ, m stands for morality. I didn’t call you Ras for nothing, I foresaw you going places 🙂

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Saleh Johar,

            I appreciate and am honored by your questions. You have been in this business for a long long time.
            I joined the Awate Forum to point out some glaring negative statements against Ethiopia as a drive by….commentator, poster.

            Here is my short answer. However, I hope those who can respond in adequate and wholesome way will do so as well.

            I will leave the initial rhetorical question of our past as you suggested. It might take us into so many areas that may not be useful.

            1) I don’t really know how to react to the spectacle of the last few weeks from an Eritrean perspective. I am reading the comments at Awate and other places to learn.
            I suppose if pressed, as an Eritrean I would limit the focus of my critique, criticism and evaluation to PIA.
            PMAA is responsible to Ethiopia.

            2 & 3) The Ethiopian Government has the moral obligation to protect its people from the “tyrant”.
            The new Ethiopian PM came to power, evaluated the cards he was dealt with, and decided taking an entirely different approach.
            I presume, the easiest way to go might have been to wait it out with the sort of stable state of affairs. I am pretty sure he might have been counseled to do so. He decided to take risks. I don’t know yet the rewards for the risk taken are yet, we have to wait a while longer.

            No war no peace situation meant it could go either way at an inopportune moment for Ethiopia. Taking the war risk out is the PM’s honorable main obligation, in my opinion. I hope, in the future, Ethiopia never gets involved in Eritrean politics. It will be a lose lose choice.

            4) I also thank you for letting me ask you questions directly.

            A. How do you see the Eritrean conditions changing, in realistic terms, for the better without any Ethiopian involvement?

            B. How do the Eritreans of today, the majority, see their problems and its resolutions to improve their day to day lives?

            Mr. K. H

          • Tedla

            Selam Saleh,

            [While you’re waiting for Horizon …]

            Apparently, you weren’t following your own site for the last several days because the questions you raised were discussed in one form or another. Excessive fixation on the person of Isaias won’t get the Opposition anywhere; it needs to focus on achievable things, not on retribution. One could get as morally indignant as much as one likes, but it won’t be a plan for action.

            Politics, it has been said, is the art of the possible. In that regard, I think, what Abiy’s government has achieved vis-à-vis Eritrea is everything to be proud of (at least for themselves), and not immoral by any stretch, as you suggested. If political prisoners become free at last, the troops facing each other get demobilized, trade, port services and transportation get routinized once again, and some level of political reform is instituted, I think that’d be already a significant start, something to be proud of. I believe that’s also the route to normalcy.

            I suspect you want some kind of Truth and Reconciliation to come first before anything, but I think that should be left out for now. Even though Truth and Reconciliation would mean a just closure to a traumatic episode of Eritrean political life, it’s too obvious that it’ll be a highly charged atmosphere, possibly ending up with counterproductive results. For people at such high levels admitting their mistakes is effectively condemning oneself (and family, by association), which is too much to ask and unlikely to happen anyway. It may sound callous, but I’d be happy if prisoners of conscience get some form of monetary compensation for their suffering, get helped back to normal lives (e.g., priority in jobs, housing, etc.) and just let go the injustices they went through. Their stories will be told in time, but not now …

            It’s strange, but the Ethiopians on this forum seem more optimistic about Eritrea’s future than most of the Eritrean Opposition. Maybe we have become content with incremental changes, handing over the revolutionary fire to the neighbors ….

          • iSem

            hi Tedla:
            until Saleh come to you
            You have squeezed tons of things here: The reason the Ethipians are optimistic is not just due to eritrea, but their optimism is buoyed by Ethiopia’s dodging collapse by nick of time at least for now, add to that IA is weaker and does not pose a threat and add to that the perception that they have gotten back Eritrea and they are right to assume so, IA told them.
            As to your “chelenet” incremental changes, of course we cannot change everything overnight, but if they are serious about reform they have to triage. PFDJ releases prisoners everyday, they tell them u are free go home, if they do that to the prisoners to the journalists, many of them have perished, do u thing that is a recipe for harmony.The T&R is as it sounds, no revenge, but own up and forgive, without that it will not work

          • Selam SJG,

            Here are two people who have been blaming each other, the one for opening the gate to the enemy, and the other for abrogating on an agreement, that resulted in a half century of war, destruction and misery.

            Finally, unexpectedly, somebody comes and says, let us save what has remained to be saved. He is ready to use any means available to him, Otherwise, the problem is about to annihilate everybody. He is throwing a life-vest to the side that is in immediate danger of drowning, even to dia/pfdj who betrayed its people.

            One may ask what is the logic behind saving the the offender with the aim to save the victim? It is because the culprit has the key for the success of his mission.The victim has been incapacitated, and if left as it is, that is equivalent to condemning it to a slow death.

            Give the victim the impetus and he will do the rest. Do not fight for the victim (as some asked in the past the ethiopian government to do), but enable him and arm him with self-esteem, hope and the rest, so that it can do its own fighting. That is the moral base and the philosophy PMAA follows, i believe.

            Reaction should be followed by action, for reaction alone does not bring the expected result. Some sort of action should have existed up to now that could have created a different landscape from where the opposition could have influenced the situation.

            There is no special peace ethiopia will get from the dictator that the eritrean people cannot give. Peace belongs to the people, if one does not make peace with the people, it cannot make a viable peace. What we saw in asmara and addis ababa showed us exactly that, the people are not only ready for peace, but hungry and thirsty for it, and they do not seem to care whoever may bring this peace.

            If i have any question to ask, it will be this, can the patient wait anymore without a treatment of one sort or other, palliative or curative, any sort of treatment for that matter, that may alleviate the sufferings and lead to a better future?

        • Acria

          Selam Horizon,
          You have stated it well in your above statement: ” .. when there is nobody else around for a peace deal, one is forced to sit on the negotiation table with DIA, Kim Jong Un and any other dictator. ” I applaud for the person who is making the move to make the peace deal for one reason or another. This is why Prime Minister Dr. Abi Ahmed is doing his best to bring peace in his country and among the neighboring countries, particularly with Eritrea. His method most likely would be fruitful because he is using some proven steps to make enemies friends again. First, he is willing to listen and understand without preconditions. For example, he accepts the Algiers agreement without any preconditions unlike his predecessor, Meles Zenawi. Second, he is offering economic cooperation between the two countries so that both can benefit from the deal. Finally, he was willing to say sorry for the enormous damage that was caused during the 1998-2000 war between the two countries.
          It is the hope and aspiration of many peace-loving people in both countries that this peace process will be successful. We must work hard to pressure both countries to work hard and maintain this immature peace to progress to eternal peace full of democracy and rule of law. It is admirable what our PIA is showing towards our southern neighbors. Nevertheless, for all this good intentioned relationship to become reality, Eritrean people should have true democracy in place.
          The PFDJ should start the proposed constitution of 1997, invite opposition and people in diaspora to participate in building democracy, release all political and conscientious prisoners without delay, and finally apologize for all Eritreans who feel hurt by the last 27 one party rule. Let’s show the world that we can build a true democracy. Most of all, never to war again! Obviously, through our struggle we were able to determine our national independence. But, national self determination alone without democracy and rule of law, as we have seen the last 27 years, is not enough. The PFDJ need to learn from its 30-years of war and 27-years of no-war-no-peace stance and immediately start the real process of national building. Ultimately, as the former President Barack Obama said, it is right that makes might. Not the other way round. I hope our PIA is” under the influence of PMAA” as things are getting to a good start.

    • Peace!

      Nitric,

      I read your comment twice and can’t find a reason for your case. I remember your objection to Muslim prime minister for Ethiopia.

      Peace!

    • Blink

      Dear Nitricc
      Is this true that the Ambassador was also a communication for our ethnic based opposition in Ethiopia.

  • FishMilk

    Hi Saleh Johar. I had many dealings with Dawit when he was in Asmara during the Derg time, I also met him in passing afterwards when he had been hired by the UN, and I have mixed feeling on the person. When he wishes to cast all Ethiopian and Eritrean refugees in Sudan as one and the same, he is simply incorrect. Fact is that with the exception of a couple of mixed refugee camps, all other refugee camps were either distinctively Ethiopian or Eritrean. Even at the couple of mixed refugee camps, they were clearly segregated along Eritrean and Ethiopian lines.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi FishMilk,
      He ha a lot of factual problems–he tries hard to appear as a peacemaker but his hegemonic tendency shows up.