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Jebena Introduces: Iraqi Singer Kazem AlSahir

Jebena weekend repose introduces to you the famous Iraqi singer Kazem Al Sahir through his song, Zidini Ishqen (Give me more passion). Kazem was born in Mosul, Iraq, the city that has been ravaged by ISIS. The late Syrian poet Nizar Qabbani wrote the lyrics for the song that has remained on the top of Arabic songs for two decades.  

The lyrics for the song…

Give Me More Passion

Make my passion grow
Oh most beautiful fit of madness
Drown me milady the sea is calling me
Kill me for perhaps if death kills me it will revitalize me
Oh sweetest of the universe’s women love me

Oh you who I loved until it burned, love me
Oh you who I loved until it burned, love me
If you wanted a place to stay I will house you in the light of my eyes
Your love is my map, the world’s map no long concerns me
I am it’s oldest city of sadness, and my wound is hieroglyphics
My pain extends like a flock of birds from Baghdad to China

Make my passion grow
Oh beautiful fit of madness
Sparrow of my heart my April

Oh sand of the sea and soul of my soul
Oh jungles of olives
Oh taste of ice and taste of fire
And flavor of my doubt and my belief

I feel scared of the unknown so strengthen me
I’m scared of the darkness so hold me
I feel cold so cover me and sing near me sing for me
For I have searched since the beginning of the universe for a country for my forehead
For the love of a women to take me to the edge of the sun and throw me

Make my love grow
Oh most beautiful fit of madness

Light of my life my fan my lamp my vineyard
Give me a bridge made of the scent of orange
And put me in the darkness of your hair like a comb and forget me
On your behalf I freed my lament and left history behind me
And scratched out my birth certificate and cut up all my arteries

source: http://lyricstranslate.com/

 

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  • Nitricc

    Hahahahah, lol “Selina Goual Hagerey”? I did not even know that the great Tamrat Desta has joined the Eri wagon. Sometimes I wonder if Eritrea and Ethiopia will ever let it go.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCY0h1j-wGM

  • Nitricc

    Give me more passion huh?
    Well, that is exactly what I got this weekend, more passion for Oromo and Agew music. I was in VA this past weekend and around 11 pm decided to hit the DC area, I didn’t have any specific place in mind, nor do I know a single person in DC; I normally I room around area 9th to 14th streets. So, I called Uber and headed to DC. I see the driver is Habesha. After exchanging salutations I asked him where will be a nice Habesha club to chill out, and quickly, he responded “peace”
    I said what do you mean, peace?
    He said, the name of the Habesha club is, peace!
    Oh, okay cool, let’s check it out. The funny part is, my last Habesha culb-ing was in Seattle, couple years ago. A fight broke out with two idiots and it was ugly; ever since, I hastate to go to Habesha club, when ever I feel some Abeshinga music and of course to be around the nice habesha women. So, this time around, I say why not? Called Uber and here I am off to DC.
    The club looks funky from outside and the inside is even funkier. However, The selections of the music is, simply WOW- is- the word. The DJ played all sorts of music. From Tigrgna, Amharic, Oromigna and Agewgna. Whenever Oromo or Agew is played, the crowed erupts and everyone dances their butts off. Especially when Oromo music is played, some dance and some sing alone and to me, that was the most awesome things I have ever witnessed. Sure, I have seen it on you-tube what have you but witnessing it live when people are dancing and singing in group was amazing!! I have never thought Oromigna and Agewgna could move people like that. I enjoyed it immensely. They can dance!
    I don’t know if the club is owned by an Oromo but most of the people who were dancing and singeing were Oromo. After I compliment their amazing talent, I asked, if they were Oromo? And they replied by saying “ “Ye-Wellega Oromo” I didn’t know there was a difference between the Oromos but when people clarify and elucidate their specific place and ethnicity; you leave it at that and I did. They were very friendly and we had a great time. No fights this time around and the club-peace lived up to its name. if you live in DC or visiting, check it out, you will have fun.

    • Kaddis

      Selam Niticc – I was there once or twice ( kiss or peace ?) in my last visit – and to my surprise they play a lot of local (Ethiopian ) music than clubs here in Addis. Their selection is amazing. Its a nice place but all habesha places went crazy with Shisha/ hookah. Its too much for me.

      • Nitricc

        Hey Kaddis, first, please accept my props for you to visit the US and go back home. respect my man. you are not fooled my the 21st century slavery. again respect. now, let me get back the club. I don’t do much clubbing but when i do, i am very picky and i go all out. I don’t stay on one club and i go club crawling. i don’t like staying on one club and as soon as i saw those Shisha things, i was ready to bolt out. then i spotted very attractive habesha women, lol, i said, i should wait and the rest is history. i had a great time. they didn’t play a single English music. I liked it very much. the music is simply awesome and I agree with you.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello Amde,
    Do you recall why Nasa scientists switched from pinging for intelligent life form to sitting tight and listening instead? Some group convincingly argued that by broadcasting “hello in all languages” hopping to contact somebody out there, what if we end up calling some creatures whose delicacy include human-like animals.

    It was so convincing and scary they immediately shutdown that project and now they are just listening. Now, imagine if all other aliens are also as clever and they are sitting and listening instead, logic dictates that we will never meet one another, at least, until our technology reaches the sophistication it needs to read details of civilizations in far far away places in the universe.

    Very interesting times!

  • Gud

    Hey, Abi
    Bee? Ante keshimo, Derg had assigned something nice for itself too. I don’t know/remember what that was, though 🙂
    About that emotion thing, well no bigy….all of us are the same (Don’t tell any one, ok? :)). May be that “AbroAdeg” thing is real, you know? May be I was the son of your Eritrean shofer 🙂 (I am angry with him though, he let you drive!) You never know

    • Abi

      Gud
      You are not his son . He has two beautiful daughters. Both graduated from AAU. Both have good jobs.
      Wait a minute. He might have a son somewhere else. Who knows? YeTigre neger!

      I would do anything to drive in my teenage years. I was an excellent driver at 15. An expert car thief at 16.

      • Gud

        Abi,

        Aha! so this was all about “yegorebet/lijinet fikir ” . Man, you just spoiled it for me 🙂 I thought you love all Eritrean alike…Who doesn’t love Eritrean girls? Actually it is a business thing for you guys now…All your singers tend to sing for them, driving Ethiopian women crazy….wait, may be there is a woman singing for Eritrean boys too? is there? Nah, no money there

        Tigre + Driver + going to many places = Doesn’t matter, always comes back to the only family 🙂

        • Abi

          Gud
          Which family? Family everywhere.
          ” negresh nebere baTir tenTelTiye
          Tigre wushima enji bal ayhonim biye.”

          • Gud

            Abi,
            You are bad (Not Jocko’s bad, the other one:)) I need to go confront that old man then………..

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello All,
    They found water on Mars and no body talks about it?
    Good night!

    • saay7

      Hey Fantiness:

      We will be impressed when they find skeletons of camels and donkeys.

      My fave tweet on the subject: “That’s just NASA taunting California for its drought.”

      saay

      • Dear Saay,
        when australia was discovered, the first settlers sent to inhabit the continent were convicts. they were supposed to excute their prison terms in the harsh and unknown environment, and in a way they were serving the crown. similarly, should there be forced settlers on the planet mars? if so, who should be the first settlers besides volunteers and scientists? my candidate is dia.

        • saay7

          Hey Horizon:

          You are asking this of a guy who thinks “Blade Runner” is one of the best movies ever made? Of course, the answer is easy: reptilians. More human than human, but with a built-in 5 year life-span. Amde will tell u the rest.

          saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Saay,

            Now I must recommend “Rendezvous with Rama” by Arthur C. Clarke. The crowded California prison, the artificial hearts, micro chips for our brains soon to follow, and now water on Mars!

          • saay7

            His Fantiness:

            Thanks for the tip. God gives a select few brains that can glimpse into the future. Some use it to make money, some to find cures. Others, like Arthur C Clarke, to tell stories.

            saay

        • Gud

          Horizon, aka “Assab for Badme”

          How about shipping your land locked Ethiopia and give the Horn a break? Or just woyanie and some “Ras-Teferian” left overs, such us yourself still singing “Key Bahrachin”? Don’t worry dreaming is allowed in Mars and you can still dream about Assab from there 🙂

          • PTS

            Gud,
            I think assab for badme is not that bad an idea. If you think about it, pfdj strangled mama ertra all in the name of tiny, dust, donkey-field, useless badme. Our country was better off when there was no badme.

        • Amde

          Dear Horizon

          Good recommendation. From the supplied descriptions it sounds like Martian water tastes like the salty bitter tears DIA sheds when he sees the ashes that stand for his dreams.

          Amde

          • Gud

            Amde,

            Great! Another one who speaks Donkey language!

          • Amde

            Dear Gud,

            It is? I suppose you would know. I will have to defer to your obvious expertise in equus asinus linguistics.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Fanti Ghana,
      it is good news. we may get other planets similar to earth somewhere in other galaxies. Nature is rich and god is great. the question is are we human beings managing well even the earth we live in, and what can you say when man can’t find healthy water in his own country.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Doc,

        We are curious beings. We can’t help it but to want to know what is out there. Otherwise, you are right; we don’t even know enough about our own planet let alone others out there. Although there are billions of stars and billions of possibilities for similar planets to exist, finding an intelligent life form is extremely infinitesimal.

        All the events that happened to cause life on earth would have to happen ‘again’ somewhere else mostly in the exact sequence including, perhaps, an exact temperature reading of centuries, and the most difficult one: age of the promising solar system. So, if age happens to be a factor in the formation of the initial amino acids, then forget it, there is no one out there.

        Repeat after me: God is Great!

        • Amde

          Selam Fanti, Kokhob

          Check this article out. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-new-physics-theory-of-life/

          It proposes that not only is life not rare, but the tendency of nature is towards life due to the underlying physical laws. This rings true to me, it just seems life takes hold and blooms in every corner of earth, and I don’t see a good reason why this wont apply elsewhere.

          Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Amde,At the heart of that article is:

            Me:
            “The chemistry of the primordial soup, random mutations, geography, catastrophic events and countless other factors have contributed to the fine details of Earth’s diverse flora and fauna.”

            You:
            “But according to England’s theory, the underlying principle driving the whole process is dissipation-driven adaptation of matter.”

            Conclusion:
            Intriguing, but too early and it needs more testing before I change my long held and comfortable position. I will keep watching!

          • Amde

            Hi Fanti,

            But i don’t see a conflict between the two. The primary mover is dissipation. Adaptation occurs during this movement.

            I was introduced to thermodynamics in college. For the longest time, we were told the laws of thermodynamics show that the trend is to more disorder. But I could never square that to the obvious proliferation of life and life forms, which to me appear to show more co-operation and order than disorder. This theory provides a different perspective.

            Now I can also see the role of God in this as being the author of the laws of nature, but then that would make him an entity who is too far away from the day to day labors of individual creatures. That is not how we generally conceive of God, because otherwise there is no point to prayer etc…

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Amde,
            I am afraid all the research man has done and is going to do will not let him see why, how and where God is as that all formulas are only serving in this material world and when the research and study goes more finer the mind will not able to continue as that is not in this dimension.

            I think man should first search for his own self so he will simply explore the outer world. man has lost his own self while searching the our world. this can be done only when he jumps form time and space I think – or when he escape from material worlds formulas, Lol, do you say “Kokhob you are crazy”

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Dr. Kokhob Selam,

            I know exactly what you mean by “…the mind will not be able to continue as that is not in this dimension.”

            There are so many things our mind just cannot interpret or understand because it does not have a frame of reference. For example, try to imagine what would be beyond the rims of the universe. That would be “nothing” but we don’t really know what “nothing” is. We just agree on the concept for the sake of having a “civilized conversation.” So, yes, there are limits to what we can know.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Amde,

            They will be similar once London’s theory is proven but not until then. What he basically is saying is that since nature tends to “cooperate,” which is fine by me, the process that leads to the “primordial soup” is not necessarily unique. Up to that point it is all good, but too early to conclude that nature’s reach of “irreversible stage of cooperation” leads to Chimpanzees.

            Unless I missed it, the way I understood London’s theory based on that article is like so: onions, peppers, salt, and oil are abundant and they tend to attract one another. Therefore, making a good doro wat may not be a mystery after all.
            Effectively jumping over the ‘cooking’ needed, and implying that “the good doro wat has to be the natural next step.” And the Missouri in me is saying: show me!

            “…the role of God … as being the author of the laws of nature…,” after three or four rounds of “I do-I don’t” that is exactly where I am now. The universe and nature are “too engineered” not to have an engineer.

          • Amde

            Hi Fanti and Kokhob,

            Are you both medical doctors or health professionals? My brother who is a doctor and way smarter than I would completely agree with you guys. I think it has to be with the witnessing of death up close and personal on a more frequent basis than any of us. Having accepted that, I don’t discuss the role of God with him. He comes from a completely different perspective than the rest of us who chase around little green papers. As to the role of Prime Engineer, I confess to being agnostic.

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Brother Amde,

            I like your brother already!

            I can’t blame you agnostic you. It was not easy for me to reach “Prime Engineer” stage at all. I simplified everything for myself by defining God as someone with IQ level of my IQ times a million. It is not that mysterious is it?

          • House of Stark

            HI Mr Fanti. Amde and KS

            If you don’t mind interrupting your fine discussion, I have some Question.

            1) What is the difference between God, creating man out of DUST and science theory of primordial soup.
            2) In Relativity theory the faster you travel the slower time becomes. now using the IQ difference Fanti mentioned, is it possible to show that 14B year to us could be the same as 7 days to God.

          • Amde

            Hi House of Stark,

            Ah, but the difference is Will. God, by choosing to breath into dust, willed humans into being. Who knows why primordial soup congealed into Kitfo?

            I actually have never had a problem with that parallel view. But, it is the additional step in which meaningful theology resides that I have a problem. By this I mean the idea of a God interested in my life and its details such as why Amde chooses to spend time at Awate.com than elsewhere. There is just too much sadness in the world to think “he” is interested in our day to day details.

            Amde

          • House of Stark

            Hi MR Amde.
            If you set aside the additional steps for a moment, don’t you think science and theology agree that life started from dust ( from the same starting material ).

          • Amde

            Selam House of Stark,

            I think the dust of science and the dust of theology are different.

            In any case, are you talking about Human life or all life (microbes to marmosets). Saay’s quote is really great at establishing perspective when we talk about life. Christian theology says that Man was created out of dust, by God breathing into the form he created out of the dust. But Man was created last, and there is no explanation whether or not the donkey or the camel or the tree they lean against were also created out of dust. You would agree with me that these things also have life, correct? We are not too different. Check out this article and especially the video. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590046/Crows-intelligent-CHILDREN-Study-reveals-birds-intelligence-seven-year-old.html

            Amde

          • gecho

            Hi Amde,
            Whenever I try to understand terms such as “dust” in scriptures (assuming they are true renderings of the original) I find it helpful to try and put myself in the shoes of the teacher and students of the time the scriptures came in to being. One of the questions I ask would be something like: if as a “prophet/teacher” God revealed to me the mysteries of all that is how would I convey this to the people of the time? Seen from this point many early scriptures make better sense (like the 7 day creation story not a bad representation of evolution at all.) At least they would entice the curious of the time to ask more questions leading to the long line of Q&A and the accompanying tools like the scientific method (barring times like the dark ages).

          • Abi

            Hi House of Stark
            I’m confused as always.
            14B man years is equivalent to 7 God days? Can we safely say God is travelling fast according to relativit theory?

          • House of Stark

            Hi Abi

            If you add catalyst in to chemical reaction in order to speed up the process are you breaking any natural law?

          • saay7

            Hi HoS,

            Here is a perspective on time, space and life on Earth by Bill Bryson in A Short History of Nearly Everything

            “If you imagine the 4,500-bilion-odd years of Earth’s history compressed into a normal earthly day, then life begins very early, about 4 A.M., with the rise of the first simple, single-celled organisms, but then advances no further for the next sixteen hours. Not until almost 8:30 in the evening, with the day five-sixths over, has Earth anything to show the universe but a restless skin of microbes. Then, finally, the first sea plants appear, followed twenty minutes later by the first jellyfish and the enigmatic Ediacaran fauna first seen by Reginald Sprigg in Australia. At 9:04 P.M. trilobites swim onto the scene, followed more or less immediately by the shapely creatures of the Burgess Shale. Just before 10 P.M. plants begin to pop up on the land. Soon after, with less than two hours left in the day, the first land creatures follow.

            “Thanks to ten minutes or so of balmy weather, by 10:24 the Earth is covered in the great carboniferous forests whose residues give us all our coal, and the first winged insects are evident. Dinosaurs plod onto the scene just before 11 P.M. and hold sway for about three-quarters of an hour. At twenty-one minutes to midnight they vanish and the age of mammals begins. Humans emerge one minute and seventeen seconds before midnight. The whole of our recorded history, on this scale, would be no more than a few seconds, a single human lifetime barely an instant. Throughout this greatly speeded-up day continents slide about and bang together at a clip that seems positively reckless. Mountains rise and melt away, ocean basins come and go, ice sheets advance and withdraw. And throughout the whole, about three times every minute, somewhere on the planet there is a flash-bulb pop of light marking the impact of a Manson-sized meteor or one even larger. It’s a wonder that anything at all can survive in such a pummeled and unsettled environment. In fact, not many things do for long.”

            saay

          • Hose of Stark

            Hi Mr Saay7

            Thank you very much. I will try to find the article.

            HoS

          • saay7

            Hey HoS

            It’s actually a book. If you want to hear his hypnotic British voice, get the audio book:)

            The book alternates between telling you how the universe is so un-imaginably huge and ancient, we humans are beneath insignificant; then, it tells you how special you are and how unlikely your existence is. Here’s my favorite (I used it when we were discussing Zeno’s paradox) on why you, we (even Abi and Eyob:) are so special:

            “For almost 4 billion years, everyone of your ancestors has been attractive enough to find a mate, healthy enough to reproduce, …to live long enough to do so. Not one of your pertinent ancestors was squashed, devoured, drowned, starved, untimely wounded or deflected from its life’s quest of delivering a tiny charge of genetic material to the right partner at the right time in order to perpetuate the only possible sequence of hereditary combination that could result in eventually, astoundingly, and all too briefly in YOU.”

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello House of Stark,

            Where were you all that time? Ok, later.

            From God’s perspective, we are too small, God wouldn’t be discussing with us the nitty gritty of how He/She/It created the universe; would He/She/It? “I created everything.” case closed. 

            The when, how, whys are just fillers so we can grasp the message. So, you see, when God wills something it is so. There is no shovel, sweat, or lunch break involved. God does not need time to do anything? Again, time references are just for our understanding and nothing more. The past, the present, and the future can just be a single instant as far as God is concerned. The problem is us. We are unable to visualize the past, present, and future times as a single instant, hence the 7 days and the like.

            I have seen many arguing as if science contradicts creation, but it is actually not the case. The more science discovers “something new,” the more God makes sense. In my case for example, if I didn’t know about the ‘big bang theory’ I wouldn’t have believed in the ‘Prime Engineer’ the way I do now. The universe is in “a process” of some sort. Then as all processes do, it must have had a beginning. Now, who or what caused that beginning? Do you see why God makes much more sense?

          • House of Stark

            Hi Mr Fanti Ghana

            Thank you for the reply.

            HoS

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Fanti,

            You said: “I have seen many arguing as if science contradicts creation, but it is actually not the case.”

            In the world of Quantum Physics, which describes action on a subatomic scale, random fluctuations can produce matter and energy out of nothingness [called Quantum Fluctuations].

            The Big Bang — a massive expansion 13.7 billion years ago that blew space up like a gigantic balloon — could have occurred without a God.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello MN,

            “… random fluctuations can produce matter.” Fair enough, but since there is no existence outside the known universe and the known universe did not exist until The Big Bang, where and how did the elements that caused the formation of that massive ball came from?

            In other words, did Quantum Physics exist before Big Bang? Since time or energy has to change in some fashion to cause “Quantum Fluctuations,” what is causing that minute change in energy/time?

            To truly claim something came out of nothing, it would have to be tested somewhere where there is absolutely nothing. Where would that be?

            In general, what or who is the absolute prime mover?

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Fanti,

            In classical physics, we know that energy is conserved, that is, that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore, it would seem that the sudden appearance of energy, as required by the big bang model, would violate the conservation of energy.

            However, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (HUP) offers a way around this problem. The HUP is an aspect of quantum mechanics, the physics of small systems, such as atoms and sub-atomic particles.

          • Ted

            Hi MN, Fanti, Water is found in Mars doesn’t solve the puzzle of what we have here on Earth: how we came to being,( God or Hawking :-)). Although we made great achievement in cosmology, the theory we were created by big bang and other competing theories are unsubstantiated or never will. That is my opinion. But the recent discovery of our human kin Homo naledi in South Africa got me interested how evolutionist and scientific creationists explain the fossil. It is believed to be the first pre Homo sapien species fossils found, apparently the missing link for evolution theory.
            God have mercy on me.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Teddy,

            Have no fear at all. Creation and Evolution both demand a hefty amount of faith. It is a mater of which one demands more of it. Our limitation of understanding two important concepts is also the problem: “nothing” and “forever.”

            Nothing:
            Science basically starts from the Big Bang. The balloon that was created by the big bang is what we are calling the universe and we are in it. Therefore, there must have existed some tiny particles that started to attract one another to form the massive big ball that heated so much to caused the super explosion. If you notice science is trying to have it both ways. It avoids describing anything outside the universe because it is an absolute void which we cannot visualize, and at the same time it tries to define how something came out of nothing to create the micro elements that formed the massive ball in the first place.

            So, the sciences are great in explaining what is out there, but terrible on explaining where and when it all started. Evolution should not scare you brother Ted. All things are created by God including our hydrogen dominated world. So, all or most of his/her creations having similarities should not be a mystery. Did you know our DNA is similar to rats by about 95% or something crazy like that?

            Forever:
            Theology in the other hand says God existed forever! Which eliminates several problematic questions such as where did He/She come from, who created him/her, and so on. The Judaic religions teach that God created the universe from invisible things. Which makes you wonder if science is up to something after all. Either way I am happy with the headache free faith of mine. I better quit before MN comes back.

          • saay7

            Hey Fanti:

            If science starts with the Big Bang (because that’s when time and space were created, and “Big Bang” is a misnomer because sound wasn’t created, so there can’t be a bang) who studies singularity, the reversal of Big Bang? They better study it because Technology Singularity is when our robots acquire self-consciousness and become smarter than us. (better listen to Morpheus)

            And…there are scientists now talking of “multiverse” not just universe. The Abrahamic religions got that covered with “the heavens.” Poor atheists and agnostics will be stumped. And, most importantly, how do you say “universe” in Amharic?:)

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Saay,

            Wasn’t Hawkins heavily into singularity?
            The “shrinking and expanding indefinitely” universe was attractive, which explained “forever-ness” for a while, but once it was proven that the universe is actually expanding indefinitely, at a faster rate in fact, we are stuck in square one again. The issue with singularity is that an infinitely dense object, like a mass inside a black whole, would consume everything around it leaving nothing behind to help us to form an opinion of how it came about. I am not sure if explosion can occur once singularity is achieved, but science better explain what ultimately happens to a mass inside a black hole.

            “Multiverse” sounds like some psychedelic’s attempt to explain how we got here.

            Universe = Biher, I know you are going to say “heh,” but I have to be able to defend “Egziabiher.”
            Don’t be surprised by our frequent usage of ‘biher’ for something smaller.
            Biher: an entity or group of entities having similar behavior and form…

          • saay7

            Selamat Fantiness:

            I would be cautious of using phrases like “once it was proven” because nothing has been proven but theorized:) One of my favorite features of Mad Magazine used to be a four column, 12 row create-your-own-sentence-by-picking-any-word-from-any row (subject predicate) and, for science-related sentences, the last column had only one choice: “further study and funding is required.”

            For example, they are now saying that the universe/s is/are over a trillion years old. That is pretty much timeless. They are now saying that black holes are not rare things but fairly common place and just then, one astronomer who completely rejected they even exist at all, and we have to take him seriously because he is at UC Berekeley. Wish I had listened to him before the dozens of scary documentaries about them:)

            NASA is usually very cautious about their announcements—except this water-on-Mars thing. If I were cynical, I would say it is related to them creating a push for funding: NASA has been practically ignored by Obama. Apparently, it has no dictators. (rimshot)

            Biher, now that is genius. Hadn’t even thought of it but that is awesome:)

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Saay,
            [This was last night]

            I think you may have made my night! I always had a problem conceptualizing objects once inside a black hole. Where do they end up? Do they get completely dismantled molecule by molecule from the intense gravity on their way on to God knows where? How deep can a black hole get? Does it even have bottom? Imagine the follow up questions. Black holes are amazing phenomena, but they are difficult to truly understand. If no black holes, what happens when a cloud of gas condenses too tight and collapses against its own gravity? I really want to follow that professor from Berkeley with that noble theory.

            Although I am very sure it is believed that the universe has expanded beyond a point of no return, your advice is well received brother. By the way, this opens another can of worms. Can an object travel faster and faster indefinitely? Never mind. go to bed.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan saay
            I think universe is called Eritruse in Amharic.

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Fanti,

            You sounded rational until this: “All things are created by God including our hydrogen dominated world”. What reasons do you have that enable you to say this with a certainty the size of an Eritrean highlander’s ignorance? I think the problem with creationist and evolutionist arguments is the need to have a perfect answer before the work needed for establishing its validity. The answer, at least to me, is very simple: live with open questions. Science has made great strides in demystifying many things about the universe, and the origin of matter is yet to be tackled. Science does not make claims with certainty about anything; it shows you the most probable explanation, cause, or knowledge. As such scientific knowledge is tentative – the moment a new intersubjective knowledge is presented, scientific knowledge changes. So, really your comparison of science -an open-ended endeavor of inquiry, a method for the establishment of truth and knowledge with religion’s hollow dogma -a hocus-pocus- is absurd.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abyssinia,

            I am totally mindful of the way science explains ‘what is.’ In fact, I am always hunting for ‘scientific’ explanation for our existence, because it has always helped me understand, among other things, the idea of ‘God’ even better. As you said, and naturally, science is always changing; which is great. However, the way things stand right now, I need an x amount of faith on “religion” or on “science” to explain my existence and I find it easier and more plausible to think that there may be some one or something responsible for all of this.

            I mean, can you imagine how much faith would be needed to believe on something that says a group of amino acids eventually formed me and they happened to pre-plan for me to have eyes so I can save my self from falling off the cliff? Talk about dogma!

            The bottom line is Aby, either way, it is a personal choice rather than a scientific truth.

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Fanti,
            I do not think you understood what I meant. So here in plain English: embrace living with an unswered questions. You do not need to fill your lack of knowledge with religious non-sense. If the current scientific knowledge does not satisfy you, go out and inquire, contribute to the collective human knowledge; or wait until others do.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abyssinia,
            I thought I did. The problem is that I live in a world where about 85% of us believe in some form of deity. Why in the world would I want to join those of you only 15%? Trust me; once you turn 50, it will all make sense!

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Fanti,
            I am not sure about the correctness of your claims on the percentages, but never mind. Here is what is so interesting: why do believers find solace in larger numbers? As if the different religions are in agreement with each other, you counted their believers to be on your side? In the real world, one religion’s believer will kill another religion’s believer to get to heaven. But no one of the 15% (your claim) will kill any one to get anywhere. So, who is actually on your side?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abyssinia,
            This is a good one. I will give you 1 point and I will keep 1/2 for myself.

          • Ted

            Hi, Abysinia.
            God first created Abyssinia, then he created Ethiopia , then, He said behold i give you Eritrea. You are in uphill battle fighting God’s will.

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Ted,
            Always light as feather 🙂

          • Ted

            Hi fanti, i am with you, I love science and all the benefit come with it. One atheist said’ i can be all moralistic and good personas as any religious person but having some one up in heaven not loving me really bothers me.’ The point is let’s love science for what it is and surely, it is fascinating knowing how things work.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello MN,
            Do you see a catch 22 here or is it me. Since the type of energy needed to cause any fluctuation would have to be position energy, as opposed to kinetic energy, where was it before there was a universe? Mind you, we don’t have a universe yet, so where was that energy kept to create moving particles, who united to create the huge ball, which exploded to create the universe? I don’t know about you, but I prefer to pass it on to the one who says “don’t worry, I am responsible.”

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Amde,
            we are still at the starting point to see the invisible world which is connected with us. there are creatures who can see us but we can’t see them. yet, still there are human beings who see more wider than those ordinary people. But because they are in higher place than we do most of them are treating us as you and me treat the infant who can’t notice the good and bad. They know they have been in our stage and are kind to us.sometime the parent might show you he is not happy with your childish action but that is because the parent loves you and wants to correct you.

            People are nice, but is is only they don’t know how to use use their brain they make mistakes. we are too much attached to what we have and we want more which make us do more to control naute and others

          • Amde

            Selam KokhobSelam,

            Your language is very mystical, definitely gives a very good insight into where your poetry comes from.

            You don’t have to answer, but it is interesting to me when you say “there are creatures who can see us but we can’t see them” are you using symbolic language and speaking from faith, or are you one of those rare gifted people who can see what is not so evident to vast majority of us? You don’t have to answer if you are not comfortable. I really appreciate your insight though.

            Amde

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Amde,

            read how I suffer to find Kokhob, searching all over the world when in fact he is inside me. I put two poems for the same reason but in different style. which one do you like?

            01.. . . ነብሰይ . . . . .

            ውቅያኖስ ጠሊቐ – ሰማይ ተምንጢ ቐ :-
            መሬት ‘ ውን ሰንጢቐ – ገዚፈ ደቂቐ :-
            ሓሚቐ ጸቢቐ – ኣዕርየ ጸይቐ :-
            ርሒሰ ደሪቐ – ዘርጊሐ ጨፍሊቐ :-
            ተኸቢረ ተናዒቐ – ሰሪቐ ተሰሪቐ ::

            ኩሉ ፈቲነ –
            . . . . . . .ዘይኩወን ኮይነ ::

            ክደልያ ክደልያ :- ክጎያ ክጎያ :-
            መዓስ ረኺበያ :- ኣበይ ኮን ተኣልያ ::

            ተሳቅየ ምእንተኣ – ተሃንትጥየ ክሪኣ ::
            ተስፋ ምስ ቆረጽኩ – ሓንሳብ ህድእ በልኩ –
            ህድእ ኣብ ምባለይ – ስኺነ ምምዛነይ –
            ረኺበያ ነብሰይ- ተሾጊጣ ኣብ ውሽጥይ ::

            ዳሕራይ :-
            … ኩሉ ትርጉም ረኺቡ :-
            . . . . .ሰላመይ ዓንቢቡ:-
            . . . . . . .ፍታሕ ተረኺቡ :-
            . . . . . . . . . . .ኣነ ዝሰበቡ ::

            …………………………………………………………………………………….

            02..…..ኣበይ ኣለኹ ኣነ ?…..
            ንነብሰይ ክደልያ – ነዛ ዓለም ዘይረያ:-
            ፍጹም ስኢነያ – በቃ- ቀቢጸያ::

            ዳሕራይ:-
            ኣብ ኩሉ ቦታት ካብ ዘይረኸብኩዋ:-
            ስውርቲ ዝገብረ ገለ ከይህልዋ:-
            ኢለ ክሓስብ ክምርምር ደኒነ:-
            ለካስ ኣብ ውሽጠይ እየ ተሓቢአ ኣነ::

            እንኳዕ ድኣ ከይረኸብኩዋ ኣይሞትኩ ‘ ምበር:-
            ኩሉ ክበጽሖ እየ ናይ ‘ዛ ህይወት ሚስጥር::

            ለካስ እቲ ሚስጢር ሕናቅልቅሊተይ:-
            ዝፍታሕ ኣብ ውሽጢ እዩ ኣብ ‘ታ ነብሰይ::

            ኮኾብ ሰላም JUNE 14/2014

          • Saleh Johar

            Kokeb,
            Difficult to chose one over the other. They are both excellent poems.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thank you Sir,

          • Amde

            Oh Boy KokhobSelam

            I don’t read Tigrigna. So I cant give you an honest opinion. But I promise to respond to your labor of love, with a labor of my own. I will try to translate both into Amharic or English over the weekend using the resources available to me, and give you a response. Please don’t translate them yourself (or you Fanti) – allow me the pleasure of doing so even if I run the risk of ultimately offending you.

            Amde

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Amde,
            sorry, I forgot that. you know, when I discussed continuously ( I learn a lot from you) I convince my self that you know all the languages I know. Thank you and I will wait for your response.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam KeKobay
            Just to say I enjoyed your poem. It is excellently balanced, contemplative, inward looking, expressive language with brilliant imagery. I love poems, and always envy poets skills and ability to express volumes worth of thoughts in a few stanzas. Thanks.

          • Dear Amde,
            to expect that life exists only on planet earth is a naivety. many scientists are convinced that there is life in one form or other somewhere in the universe, only waiting to be proved. just imagine the vastness of the universe, the number of stars and planets. what a wastage, if the whole universe was created to host just only human beings.

    • Amde

      Dear Fanti,

      Please don’t encourage Nitricc. He is already off googling the type of spacecraft Egypt will get to establish water dominance on Mars against the stupid Abesha.

      Amde

    • Ted

      Hi fanti. Now the nerds will have the field day. It is ” i told you so kind of moment for them”. The Martian the movie coming out, the tag line will change to “why bring him home”.
      And if our Ethiopian cousins here this news, they might say አባይን ያላየ…..:-)

    • V.F.

      Fanti, who did? The Ethiopians? All the more reason to join the band wagon.

  • Eyob Medhane

    Addis, Sal..

    Forget everything.. We came up with a new phrase for “Balageru Idol” We now call it… Balageru Mirt.

    And to my delight, a guy who is my favorite and Sal, dismissed as “so so…” Won the contest….

    Please watch his amazing performance… Ladies and gentlemen, Dawit Tsige..

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv4aK_KC9RA

    • saay7

      Hey Eyob:

      You guys went from Balageru Idol to Balageru Mrt. We, on the other hand, pick up a Blin word for star, “Shingruwa” and, boom, problem solved.

      Then…let me jog your memory a bit since it has been rusty of late (I blame it on the Qelal babur.) What actually happened was you linked a video of a Dawit Tsige/Etenesh Demeke remake of Gellawa and I told you, voice-wise, the real star from that duet is Etenesh Demeke. We will let awatisas decide. Abi is not qualified because he refused to give Amanuel his phone number. So heartless.

      https://youtu.be/9tWqw9nRzYA

      saay

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal,

        Shingruwa? Damn! It sounds like a stick that you beat somebody with, 🙂 plus very difficult to pronounce. Therefore, not good for marketing…

        Dawit and his rival Esayas are both so great it must be so difficult to choose which…
        That is what made it exciting…

        Here you, try it it yourself…I demand you watch it.. 🙂

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sdBVOFPwIwU

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hello Aman
    I forward to you a request that has been made by the TBS with respect to your comments:
    Please sign in onto to Disqus so that we can follow your comments. I find useful comments that you make, but could not follow all of them. I usually, pick up my favorite awatista and keep reading vertically what I missed. I could get the message that they are responding to from their reply or I could switch to “view” if I wanted to see what the other party has said….easy for saving time.
    continuing the dialogue: This is the unfortunate situation of the donkey. Per house hold, the donkey is I think the most used pack animal. Its size: tail to head ratio to its height makes it stable. And also it is built for tough terrain, and narrow cliff passes… Although I favor the gentle camel, I feel we need to give the farting donkey its due. It is the most used, abused and betrayed pack animal. What’s really unfair is that he is despised, undermined and downplayed while its offspring the mule gets (a hybrid of a male donkey and a female horse) gets more praises and is given a higher status and is more valued. The donkey needs to revolt. He needs to weed out all man kind’s bad perceptions about him. He needs to dismantle the entire system. He needs to revolt. Donkey of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles! For there is no justice without rebelling, as long as the history of man kind is concerned. Humans need to be kicked hard between the legs in order to yield some justice to the humble donkey, and yes, a lot of stinky gasses to get them knocked off…
    Poor donkey is ridiculed and despised in many cultures. Therefore, I have to hear stories and fables in which donkey character holds a hero role. Have you heard of poems…songs folklore tales that put the humble donkey in graceful ligh? I don’t think so. On the contrary, the humble donkey is made symbols of dumbness and stupidity. Poor donkey and then he is also known for his untimely death by the fatal illness we call mendef. Here is the twist though. Just like in any animals, there are higher breeds to the donkey too. We call them reefaay in the lowlands. They are regarded as the Lamborghini of the lowland plains and they are treated fairly well. They do get some attention and praising. I think abi needs to launch Save the donkey day. የኣህዮች መንከባከብ ቀን። ኣህያ ይቅደም!ግመል ይውደም! ወደፊት! እናሸንፋለን!!

    • saay7

      Mahmouday:

      Here’s the Donkey’s Manifesto, a book called “Donkey”, which is making the same point you are. The Egyptians respected donkeys, says the summary of this book; the denigration of donkeys started with the Greeks and the Romans. One of aesops fables, remember, is about the father, his son and their donkey.

      http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/D/bo11432871.html

      saay

    • Amde

      Selam Mahmoud,

      I am with you on giving the donkey the respect it deserves, but did you need to say “gimel yiwdem”? That makes you a very fair weather friend. Come on now… ye gimel wetetwuan endakeberk ergimanuanim fralat

      Amde

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Selam amde
        The last sentence is inserted purposely, to get abi roll out with his anticipated swagger. But yes, poor donkey needs help.

      • Dear Amde,
        i had heard that ethiopia has the largest number of donkeys in the world. the next i think is china. here is a big asset that is not being exploited as it should. i have heard that italians eat horse meat; but, i have never heard anybody else eating donkey meat, except may be cubans. it was said that cubans used to eat donkeys and apes during their stay in ethiopia; almost anything for that matter. may be you have heard the anecdote that used to circulate that cubans ate everything that flies except airplanes, and everything that swims except submarines.

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Horizen,
          Italians and horse mean? I never heard that, but they are the neighbors of the French who consider horse meat (Viande de Chuval) an alternative to Beef and frogs a delicacy. How about Kware’E, hoofs that the Egyptians love. Duck and chicken legs that the Chinese dip in different colors and sell in stall on the promonade lanes where lovers choose from the different colors and walk munching the colored legs–Romantic? Years ago I went to Hong Kong and the food was so disgusting I starved until I found an Italian restaurant–after that, I had spaghetti and macaroni for all the meals. Imagine they give you soup, very tasty and when you finish they tell you it is made of shark skin–they shave the skin and make it a creamy soup. Then you go to the bathroom and insert your fingers down your throat. But don’t laugh, yet–that is what I do when I see people eating raw meat–guess where that is 🙂 Eyob and Abi: I didn’t ask you! 🙂

          • Dear SJG,
            sausages made of horse meat are famous, and i know of a friend (not ethiopian), who came back after a visit to italy with such sausages. the french too seem to like horse meat. we have some chinese who live near by, and sometime we say jokingly that we should hide my son’s dog whenever the chinese celebrate their holidays. i have tried (i cannot say ate) raw meat not more than 3-5 times in my life, and that after being enticed into it by some friends. i never liked it.

        • Amde

          Hi Horizon,

          Indeed. It used to be said that Cuban truck drivers would purposely hit donkeys to make into a roadkill meal. We used to have a relative who made his living renting out his small fleet of five or six donkeys. As you can imagine, he was quite paranoid these communist Cubans were going to do a fiyel wetete on his small capitalist corporation of donkeys and their herder.

          Now that I think about it, there is no rational explanation for why even the Chinese (forget our prudish selves) were not eating donkey flesh. Either their value as work animals was just too high, or a few brave souls experimented with the meat and found it unsavory somehow. Well, I say if the meat is too much of a stretch, maybe donkey yogurt might have a market. The advertisement writes itself – “Ass Yogurt – Makes you Tough, Sturdy, Obstinate and Pack a Mean Kick”

          Amde

          • Dear Amde,
            i have heard that donkey milk is expensive. i do not know why. may be for anecdotal medicinal reasons. cleopatra used donkey milk in her bath, because she believed that it enhanced her beauty. one important point; it is said that donkey’s milk is similar to woman’s milk. look what our children are missing.

          • Amde

            Dear Horizon,

            I imagine theoretically donkey milk can be inexpensive in Ethiopia. The question is, who amongst us has the courage of Samson and the patience of Mathusalah to milk donkeys? IHADEG yihenin neger biyasibibet Tiru new. As you know they organize people and fund and consult business startup all over the land. “Ye ahiya wetet ngd mahber” sounds like a viable new frontier to me.

            I say this half jokingly – apparently, selling adult human milk to adult humans is now a big business. Check this out

            http://www.businessinsider.com/human-breast-milk-is-emerging-as-a-surprisingly-cutthroat-industry-2015-7

            Amde

          • Dear Amde,
            very interesting indeed. from blood bank to cord blood bank, and now human milk bank for premature infants. the wet nurse of old times will be proud. her profession is being revived supported by modern medical science. to tell you the truth, i did not know about it.

            the milking process of donkeys will not be an easy matter though. they are always ready to kick with their hind legs. it is said that many people have lost their teeth in this way. do you remember the film by robert de nero, his would be son in law telling him he could milk a cat.

        • saay7

          Hey Horizon:

          I am sure the Chinese eat donkey meat. I say this with certainty not because I researched it but because Chinese eat anything 🙂 Donkeys don’t have cloven hoof, nor do they ruminate their food, so they wouldn’t be kosher among Christians who observe the Torahs dietary rules, Muslims and Jews. Can’t say much about Buddhist, Confucism or Hindus on the subject.

          But their hides must be good? no?

          Eyob told us that Erhiopia makes a lot of $ by exporting camel milk. Even Abi who hates camels approves of that

          saay

          • gecho

            Selamat Saay7,
            You can find donkey meat on the menus of some restaurants in Beijing. It tastes like beef. But it is not common.

        • Gud

          Horizon,

          In the old Derg days, you would go to prison if you put donkey and Ethiopia in one sentence. I guess you guys are more free now 🙂

          • Gud,
            what matters most is not what you say you are, but what you end up to be in real life. there are times when a donkey is more dignified than a person who has sold his soul to lucifer.

          • Gud

            Horizon,

            I am sorry, when you say “donkey is more dignified”, you are talking about the animal, right? 🙂

            ……..And not about the idiot who is having trouble staying within his land locked boundary and its jurisdiction? You got to find a way to break free from the sickness polluting your mind, Mr Ethiopian.

          • Music Novice

            Gud,

            Who is the real donkey? Think about it. It is you.

            Last time you were gossiping about Pub/Bar whisky binge drinking. Now, you are trying to start street, low life, banter. Is this the best you can do? In what way can your trash talk help Eritrea? Are you unable to discuss ideas?

          • Gud

            MN,

            Donkeys don’t think, duah! But I am sure Horizon can tell you more about that 🙂

            Hush now, MN (the Nobody). This is not a reply to you, ok? . I am just going to use your house to pass a message and point out what this is all about. Got that?

            Here is the deal, all the fine people of awate, all of the good hearted ones were happily and amicably chatting and laughing about Addis Metro :). Camels, donkey and what not, before the good person Fanti brought the news about Mars…..all good. Eritreans and Ethiopians (awatista) talking fun stuff. Then came the Don…..I mean Horizon with:

            “…similarly, should there be forced settlers on the planet mars? if so, who should be the first settlers besides volunteers and scientists?…..”

            http://awate.com/jebena-introduces-iraqi-singer-kazem-alsahir/#comment-2279568697

            Then this Ethiopian (ETHIOPIAN!), imagine, could not come up with any one bad person to think of from within his own country (Mengie, the “key shibir hero” is out there at large, for instance… or Even Hailemariam Desalegn, for his ugliness :), or go far out in the world ISIS, etc. ) But no, this donkey doesn’t know to stay within his boundary and had to say this ….”my candidate is dia.”

            Some body, some one from all the fine Ethiopians in here should tell this fool to think Ethiopian and keep his boundary. You can tell his brain is polluted and he is sick with his covet for Assab, Eritrea and Eritreans in the real world too.

          • Music Novice

            Gud,

            Do you have a history of mental illness? Surly, normal people discuss ideas in order to try and solve problems?

            In what way can you help Eritrea? Or, even, in what way can you help the PFDJ?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selemat Gud & Horizon,

            Do you remember an article was written sometime in 1998 or 1999. The title: “The donkey is genius “. Is there anyone who remember the content of the article? That might give a closing to the debate about the donkey. (semere Andom, saay, Abi who have good memory might handle the question)

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Dear Amanuel Hidrat,
            i am already over it, already forgetting it. i really do not care what he says. this is not the first time and i am not the first person. if one is easily hurt, he should not throw insults and insinuations right and left. we come to awate.com to discuss ideas (as M.N. said), and not to impose our opinion on others; and if we do not like their opinion to desparage them. i know where such mentality (the how dare you mentality) comes from. I have found a simple solution; to never read again his posts. I have nothing to lose, because there is nothing to learn.
            regards.

          • Gud

            Horizon,

            Ideas, huh? Right!, You have to cross the Mereb river to share this? (and you call it an idea?)
            “…… similarly, should there be forced settlers on the planet mars? if so, who should be the first settlers besides volunteers and scientists? my candidate is dia”
            That is some idea!
            Here is another idea “Assab for Badme”……that is an insult and pure disrespect of Eritreans.
            Now, who is the we in your “We come to ….” ? You are not lumping the good and fine Ethiopians, (who always know where the boundary is and never insult or disrespect Eritreans unnecessarily) with one idiotic donkey, are you?
            Be conscious of your boundary and don’t cross it unnecessarily.

          • Abi

            Hey Gud
            I say you are more free now. You can write ” Amhara ” on a donkey and bring them to festivals with no shame. One of the perks of freedom.
            Free at last !!!!

          • Gud

            What’s up Abi,

            You heard it too, didn’t you? I mean, the hauling of the donkey in the Horizon 🙂

            Nah Abi, those two words are gone from our vocabulary for good. They never meant anything any way, it was just those guys were more sensitive (hold on Abi, I did not say emotional ;)), self conscious and jumpy at that time :). Now I am specifically talking about this left over donkey out in the Horizon always facing towards the Red Sea 🙂

            Forget about past, now we are in deep trouble. there is no way we can assign an innocent animal to this monstrous Woyanie : ) May be something is in Mars 🙂

    • Gogo

      Selam Mahmud,
      As to your question or wonder whether a donkey has ever been portrayed in a good light you have Benjamin, the donkey in Orwell’s Animal farm, who is quick and witty to understand the Pigs post-revolution betrayal. He is cynical about the animal revolution against man and its promises. He is also the only literate animal among his colleagues and he explains to his unsuspected friends how the pigs have changed the normative and political rules set during the revolution to serve the interests of the powers-to-be.

      Regards

      • saay7

        Hey Gogo:

        Nicely done! The donkey COULD read but he didn’t read because there was nothing worth reading. He was the original “kla gdefena bejakha” Asmarino who was not impressed by anything.

        Hey, how about Eeyore in “Winnie-the-pooh”? He was the only animal worth watching. And he had a detachable tail: he was as grumpy as his color. Is the Tigrinya word for grey still “Hbri adgi” or have the brainiacs in Asmara come up with a replacement?

        saay

  • PTS

    Aman,
    In many countries including Eritrea and Ethiopia, camel is edible whearas I never heard of any country where ppl eat donkey meat.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Hello Abi

    You already have many friends in this forum. All of us we do not have our old friends anyway. Abi I feel myself as your friend.

    Amanuel

    • Abi

      Ato Amanuel
      I feel like I made more friends than enemies here. It is an honor if you call me a friend. But, who among my friends here give me a call at midnight? None. I just lost someone special I called more than just a friend.
      Do you feel me?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Abi

        If somehow leave your phone# With your comment, we will be more than happy to call you. Feel the warmth, this is your home.

        • Abi

          Ato Amanuel
          Really?
          Haven’t I advised you to increase your humor cells? Why don’t you heed my advice?
          Trust me Fanti’s abro ageg gimeloch would undrstood what I meant.
          You are too serious. Take time for humor. It helps a lot around here specially with Saay .

  • V.F.

    Gud, I upvote aimlessly too.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Good Sunday Awatista the greatista
    As you can see my avatar has been changed; and it has been done purposely. So, while dawitom has given us his Sunday sermon on hagerawi and ahgurawi gudayat, why don’t I give you a short sermon on something that some may find irritating. Yes, the camel.
    Facts:
    – Camels have a body temperature tolerance of around 6 degree Celsius. Humans can tolerate maximum 2-3 degrees (In humans the core body temp can fluctuate between 37.5-38.3 degree Celsius, with 40 degree being fatal). That means camels body tolerates heat before affecting the fluid in their body. Therefore, a camel needs more heat to cause it to lose water through perspiring.
    – A large camel can consume around 100liters in ten minutes, conserve that water in its body thanks to its unique metabolism (humans can be water poisoned if consumed a proportional amount (water consumed to weight). Therefore, no other mammal does this.
    -Camels body temperature is lower than air temperature; they could actually avoid heat by getting their bodies in contact (staying in group, their bodies in contact. The opposite of humans. We get in contact if we want warmth, that happens when the3 air temperature drops below our constant temperature (37 deg, but also consider other factors such as humidity… air pressure/wind… )
    – Camels can go with little or no food/water for 5-7 days. They can lose a quarter of their weight and still keep functioning, compare that to humans: average 3-5 minutes without air; 3 days without water; 3 weeks without food, and that’s if you are getting water (The Rules of Threes: air, water, food survivability).
    – Camels fur is of high quality; its milk is rich in potassium, iron and Vitamin C; it’s low in fat and lactose sugar (good for the lactose intolerants).
    Warning: Eri/ghedli defamers are advised not to proceed further.
    The Eritrean Camel
    -mostly in low lands, perhaps due to cultural, climate, and topography factors.
    – Eri-ghedli love of camel was immediate; camels were the heavy duty trucks of ghedli up to the late 1970s. But camels service did not end at all. It was switched from a strategic means of transportation to tactical deployments. Camels linked up roads, and served in delivering supplies where trucks could not reach, which was the case in all frontlines. (rugged mountains HalHal…Ansaba…Rora Habab…Naqfa…all the way to Qarora, hundreds of kilometers.
    – In early to mid seventies, there was a special unit which took care and HERDED camels. I remember Tesfai…wedi Haji…wedi awAlom (about 15 guys who herded the camels and would deliver the number of camels per request for different assignment, transport of munition…rations, etc.
    -Some of those camels became so trained that they would kneel down without an order when they hear the roaring of a fighter jet or the thud of an artillery shell. Some would even make a low-crawling in spots of less concealment of to get closer to a position in the trenches. I remember a camel of such legend ones stays next to our camp and the herders (tegadelti) would tell us many stories.
    – Eritrean camel has received endearing names and songs both in ghedli and in societies it serves as a means of sustenance
    selam wo senaay.

    • saay7

      Mahmuday:

      Nice! You forgot two things:

      1. Any Eritrean who ever practiced playing guitar has tried Yosuf Saeed’s “Gemeley.”

      https://youtu.be/wsO-orOporM

      2. And, of course, there was Zemach (who is Amiche, probably recruited by Emma right under the nose of Abi:) and his Gemeley.

      Funny, none of these two were camel-herders:)

      saay

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan SAAY
        Thank you man, I was actually trying to edit it; I was trying to include a link to some of the facts and upload a song. You saved me some time, thanks. No wonder why you are called Awatista FiHira!

        • Fanti Ghana

          Hello PM Mahmud,

          First, I am delighted to know that you are in fact ‘ex-SeHabi gemel,’ and second, congrats on the successful swap of your ‘true’ avatar.

          By the way, am I the only one who thinks camels do have a sense of humor? I am not joking Mahmuday. I had this belief ever since childhood and I don’t know why. There were lots of camels where I grew up, and every time I see a few of them grazing on cactus (which they love), I get as close to their face as I can and I sense them smiling at me. When a camel is a playful mood, it is the best thing to watch.

          Sorry Abisha; I love camels!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hey Fanti G
            The camel is said to have amazing sense of storing cognitive maps of places it has traveled. The Caravans of the Sahara don’t need to be led, they know the exact routes and the oases on its way. They also never forget if you do them harm. You will get it one day and it will not be fun.
            Abi is just mad because he sees nothing to be happy about when he thinks about Eritrea and its camels. I mean the man was robbed of his coffee by dawitom, milked dry his 90 million cows by the mischievous Ted, and his Eritrean buddies were taken from under his nose to wenbedewoch by Wedi Hidrat…well too many bad memories. But I like him because he is the only Ethiopian who takes the principle of win-win to his heart. He thinks Ethiopia got its independence from Eritrean, and I think Eritrea got its independence from Ethiopia. Both of us feel happy, and life goes on.

      • Maekebay

        Saay,

        Unlike the former camel herder (Mahmuda) and the former donkey herder (Maekebay), they were fortunate enough to be born and raised in the cities 🙂 Were you also a city boy by any chance?

        Maekebay

        • saay7

          Hey Maekebay:

          Yes, sir.

          saay

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Saay,
        My all time ገመል song.

        ኣቲ ገመለይ ገልገል
        ንዕናይ ጎልጎል ሰምበል፤

        ገመለይ ዋና እነታይ ፅዒንኪ
        ብረትዶ’ለኪ ክቕበለኪ፤

        ገመለይ ዋና እንታይ ፅዒና
        ኩሉ ኣብዝባና ክንዲመኪና፤
        .
        .
        ኣብርኺ በላ ክትማላኣኒ፤፤
        I occasionally hum this song until now.

        • saay7

          His Fantiness:

          Be careful of saying anything nice about camels. They have joined Abi’s long list of things he hates.

          Also, unrelated but funny, today I learned that in Amharic “light rail” trains are called “qelal babur.” When if reaches Mekele it will be “fokas babur”. There is no escape from literalism is there?

          saay

          • Abi

            Saay
            ” a camel is a horse made by a committee.”
            The way Mahmunight described their use in the struggle made me hate them. I hate ugly creatures specially camels.

          • አዲስ

            Hi Saay,

            Ante sewye eski lekek argen 🙂 but how would you translate “light rail” to Amharic ?

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Addis:

            How about Gemel?

            But seriously, if you are going to borrow, borrow it whole instead of translating it. How about “metro” or “tram”? Ask Addis, he knows the language; I barely understand it:)

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Haha Saay,

            Don’t dodge the question. I didn’t ask what its name should be. My question is what do you think is an appropriate translation of “Light Rail” in Amharic ?

            But to come to your point, this is how merriam-webster defines :

            metro : an underground railway system in some cities

            tram :a vehicle that runs on a track or on rails and that is usually used to carry groups of people for a short distance

            What we have in Addis is more of a light rail than the above two. So it’s between calling it “light rail” or “ቀላል ባቡር”. I think the later is more easier and convenient for the majority in Addis and Ethiopia. When there’s a good translation that’s convenient and easy, I am all for translated versions.

            That brings me to the question of what the origin of the term “babur” is ? I am not sure where but I read or heard that it came from when the French was building the old railway from Addis to Djibouti, the trains were steam based and the they were calling them “vapeur…vapeur”….when they see it coming from a far. That end up being “babur”. I don’t know if somebody is pulling my legs or if it’s a genuine story but that’s what I read/heard somewhere.

            What do you think ?

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Addis:

            Well, yeah, qelal Babur is a literal translation and there is no better translation but my question was why, oh, why would you go for literal translation? I hear a lot of that specially in your political and technical vocab. Why?

            I don’t have a good substitute because of my lack of proficiency in the language. I am saying those who are have an obligation to come up with a word or a phrase.

            Have no theories on the origin of the word “baboor”. All I can tell you is that your fellow Semites up north (Tigre and Tigrinya) also call it baboor. My guess is that so do all the other language groups.

            saay

          • አዲስ

            Saay,

            I think literal translation seem to be appropriate for this one. Anyway, good talk 🙂

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • AOsman

            SAAY,

            It is also used in Arabic – might have to do away with word completely:

            http://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-fr/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1/

            Let me attempt to guess its origin, just looking at the multiple use of the word in Arabic, especially the last on in the link provided, it is clear that it has to do with combustion of energy – any tool that works on that principle may be termed Babur…

            So I think the original words are Vapour or Vapeur (the bi-product of the old locomotive), since the Arab struggle with the V and P, the term is read as Babour.

            Now you come up with an Amharic term that has “fokis kem tikki” :), it my rhyme better, who knows.

            Regards

            AOsman

          • saay7

            Hey AOsman:

            Wow, you went all out on this.

            The whole word-for-word translation is a world-wide phenomenon of languages trying to catch-up with the lingua franca of the world: English. The English-Spanish dictionary says that light rails are called “train ligero” and, yep, “ligero” means “light.” Even metaphors and expressions are now translated word-for-word. Even perfectly functional local words are replaced by literal-English translations. Even when the word means something different in a local language, it is used. Even… somebody recently told me that he is sending me “deqaiq nyti akheba” (minutes of the meeting.) I give up.

            natka,
            saay

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, literal translation is absurd, NeTela Zefen always cracks me up. Do you know NeTela is also an insult in Amharic. It is means fekose in Tigrighna. For the Qelale babure they better name it just “ketema babure” or make up their own term “Ambesa babure”

          • sabri

            Hi Saay and Addis,

            Wikipedia define rail train/light train in the following way:

            “The term light rail was coined in 1972 by the U.S. Urban Mass Transportation Administration (UMTA; the precursor to the Federal Transit Administration) to describe new streetcar transformations that were taking place in Europe and the United States. In Germany the term Stadtbahn (to be distinguished from S-Bahn, which stands for Stadtschnellbahn) was used to describe the concept, and many in the UMTA wanted to adopt the direct translation, which is city rail (the Norwegian term, bybane, means the same). However, the UMTA finally adopted the term light railinstead.[6] Light in this context is used in the sense of “intended for light loads and fast movement”, rather than referring to physical weight. The infrastructure investment is also usually lighter than would be found for a heavy rail system.”

            Direct translation into Amharic qelal Babur is problematic because it can have different meanings. It can mean not heavy train or it can mean. easily maneuver train. Since rail train is transported in a less heavy rail system I would suggest to translate it into Amharic as melestenga Babur.

          • Gud

            Sebri/saay/Ted/Fanti/Addis,
            Why does it have to have “babur”, train etc. as suffix (or prefix) ? I mean why don’t they just give it a name (The train part is obvious, isn’t it? :)) like say, Addis, Walia, Piazza or whatever? Just like Greyhound? That way it would be easy for people to use in in their daily life, like “I did take Taxi, I came by Walia” 🙂

          • saay7

            Hey Gud:

            In marketing, the magic words used to be “new”, “improved”, “free.” Since Addis means new, they could call everything Addis something. Addis Metro would have been epic. But the wordsmiths in Addis suck as Nitricc pointed out when they called Ethiopian Airlines called its new carrier Taj Mahal. I wonder what locals call it: Tej…

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Let me explain it to you..Ethiopian airlines did not name its carrier for the locals. It has ten dream liners and it named all of them. Taj Mahal happens to be the carrier that flies to India and near east. Hence to relate to the customers that use that route…That is marketing…

            Qelal Babur is an appropriate naming. It is a bus like, electric car that rolls on tracks. It is not used to transport heavy materials across borders. Instead it is efficiently transporting commuters in a city. Hence, “qelal” in this context corresponds with “efficient”. As we have a WRITTEN well developed language, which we are very much proud of, why in the world would we use… “Metro”..or whatever, when we don’t have to? 🙂

          • አዲስ

            Eyoba,

            Saay made it look like we named our single Dreamliner, Taj Mahal:) we have like more than 13 now and 6 coming in?

            Here are some of the names of ET’s Dreamliners :

            Africa First, Lucy, Queen of Sheba, Lake Tana, Walia Ibex, Serengeti, Addis Ababa, Mountain Nyala, Abebe Bikila…..

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            “As we have a WRITTEN well developed language, which we are very much proud of, why in the world would we use “Metro” or whatever, when we don’t have to?”

            I think “transport” is one of the approved “whatevers”, apparently. But not metro.

            https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12002097_629577303851540_666650191530637090_n.jpg?oh=f13263d0a8a812bb3173d41a8f43895b&oe=56AAFB85

            Pick any Ethiopian newscast, randomly, and I will show you them using a lot of whatevers:)

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Brother Saay,
            If you were Amharic speaker and visit Addis (or any town) lately, you would be sick from the carelessness and cluelessness of what is going on in the nation regarding the language. They translate something that shouldn’t and fail to translate the ones they should. I took lots of pics few months ago as a sample which has become a source of perpetual headache for me. Anyway, in this case I like ‘metro’ instead of ‘qelal babur.’

          • V.F.

            Fanti, Addis Babur or Fetan Babur would be befitting.

          • አዲስ

            Hi V.F.

            I think it should be called ‘Addis Ababa Metro’ once the 2nd and 3rd phases gets operational which will most probably include underground tunnels.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Amde

            Selam Addis,

            Do you know where phase 2 ad 3 might go? I heard Shiro Meda might be one of the destinations in phase 2, but haven’t heard of anything for phase 3.

            Amde

          • አዲስ

            Hi Amde,

            I think the Shiro Meda line is pushed further. Apparently there are five phases. Below is an excerpt from The Reporter’s interview with Getachew Betru, CEO of ERC.

            The Reporter:
            There were plans to further extend the light rail from all four directions to the outskirts of the city. What are the latest developments?

            Getachew Betru:
            It is still active. We currently have a five-phase study we are proposing to the government. We have accomplished the first phase. The direction from the government for future light rail projects is that the lines should go either underground or over a bridge because land is becoming very expensive. Just to give you an idea, Phase Two includes a line from Giorgis passing along Mexico Square, the African Union headquarters to Jommo then connects to Lebu where there is the national railway network. The entire route will be either underground or over a bridge except for some six hundred meters near the AU where it will go at grade. The other line extends from Megenagna-Bole Airport-Wello Sefer-Saris-Jommo then connects to Lebu. The others include from Ayat to Legetafo, Tor Hailoch to Burayu and from Giorgis to Shiro Meda. The aim is to connect the huge social housing sites as well as industrial areas such as Bole-Lemi industrial park. This all is planned under the second GTP period. A single line is said to provide effective service if it stretches from 15 to 18 kilometers. So, that is the average length of each line and all will be linked to create a network. That means commuters can transfer from one line to another to get to their destination once they are in the railway system. We follow the same path for the national network. I believe a railway network is no longer a luxury for us. We have reached a point of no return in terms of demand for a railway network. And the government is committed to provide the network in an equitable manner. In the next six months we will declare the way Phase Two project will commence.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Amde

            Selam Addis,

            That was very interesting thank you. What caught me eye was this “This all is planned under the second GTP period.” That is a very ambitious goal, but it seems the ERC feels it now has enough domestic capacity (knowhow and technical staff) to accelerate this process. But the comment on underground lines suggests a lot of new engineering skill set will still have to be developed. It seems Addis Ababa is sprawling onto the plains of the Rift Valley from its roots in the Entoto mountains. And a lot of the condominiums are being built on these relatively flat plains, so I imagine it makes the engineering significantly easier to target underground.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selamat Fantiness and Ted:

            I can imagine. The worst offenders are those who translate English idioms AND THEN take credit for them. Like Isaias. He will take something like “a blessing in disguise”, translate it to ጉልቡብ ምርቓ and then take credit for it by saying ጉልቡብ ምርቓ እየ ዝብሎ ኣነ:: In fact, “እየ ዝብሎ ኣነ” is one of his favorite expressions used after every mundane and pedantic statement.

            Back when Haile TG was a kid helping himself out practicing socialism with his neighbor’s kazmier, Asmara boys, very self-consciously and ironically, translated Tigrinya songs into English and then laughed at themselves and their cleverness. Here’s one of Haile TG’s favorite:

            In my happiness,
            Give me my singular,
            To cover

            Now the bureaucrats and civil servants in Eritrea and Ethiopia and the rest of the world, who have no self-consciousness, sense of irony, will do literal translations of English phrases, idioms, and then look at you as if you are the weird one for noticing.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hey Saay,
            Is that supposed to be “abtu Hagosey habni shashey kiEmemo?”
            If you get involved in drafting Eritrean Constitution, please keep in mind these types of heinous crimes and format the law to include proper punishment accordingly. This is not ‘victimless crime.’ This is when everyone is the victim!

          • AOsman

            Someone help here, is kazmier a type of avocado or a distinct fruit, I have searched it on google in the past to no avail.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Saay,
            Thanks for that crying video the other day. I was busy to write, but I was following you guys and that video made me visualize Abisha crying every time Eritrea is mentioned. In fact, I feel like I know him much better now.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            What is the big deal about me expressing my emotions? Lucky me my emotions are intact unlike some with no emotions and numb. I am not ashamed of expressing my emotions. I am not a robot like Saay with no heart only a programmed head.

          • Shum

            Selam Fanti,

            I think I owe Abi an apology. I only mentioned the crying thing to demonstrate to VF his misunderstanding of Abi by lumping him with Eritrea haters. I was more trying to show the complexity in all of us that is shaped by our experience. But now, we’ve got you in the ring and Saay on the turnbuckle stretching his hand out to you to be tagged so he can do Hulk Hogan’s leg drop 🙂 Be careful, Abi fights like Ric Flair.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Shumey,
            I know! VF was busy defending his daring andnet position, but mixing
            Horizon: I want Badme and Aseb. No clear position on the people with
            Abi: I don’t want Badme I don’t want Aseb. I just want my friends back.
            is a serious crime.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Fanti

          I was on the side of the author when he was writing the song.
          He penned it when he saw 20 camels carrying boxes of ammunition heading towards the highland in 1975. nostalgic song. Thank you.

          Regards

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Mr. Amanuel,
            You are very welcome Mr. Aman. Out of my top 5 revolution era songs, this one and ‘abagumbaH berekha nigerenando – absaHil barka intay re’ikha” are two of them. They are literally written in my bones. Talk about nostalgia!

          • Tzigereda

            Hey Fanti,
            wow! I would be lucky if you remeber the whole song of ” abagumbaH BereKa…”.What comes in my mind is only”.. Yihadim iye neyre Toksi bertiUni..” And do you know which occasion was associated with this song?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Kibrti Tzigereda,

            Shame on me but I am only clinging to the melodies with only pieces of the lyrics. I know that hyenas, rabbits, and foxes are involved in that song, but I will try to remember more soon. I hope someone will correct me, but I am tempted to say that the occasion may have been after the first major war with Derg in 1978, I think. I hope I am not mixing it with something else. Better answer soon embeytey.

    • dawit

      Mahamudai, I liked your stories of our Royal Camel legendry accomplishment in liberating our country. Is there any similar stories about our donkeys in liberation struggle of our country?

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Hello dawit
        The donkey are really unfortunate, I sympathize with them. They are probably the most used per household, and during ghedli too. But I have to hear some one singing for adghi. Don’t ask me but they are used to indicate dumbness, unintelligence…I think in all the languages I know: Humar, adeg, adghi, ahya, ass…are all used for scolding people’s stupidity.
        I have not heard of anyone claiming to have survived on their meat/milk.
        But believe me, apart from their sudden letting of poisoning gasses, they are hardworking animals that they should be proud of themselves. BTW: Do we have donkey herders? I have not heard of someone proudly claiming he/she is a donkey boy/girl. Have you?

        • dawit

          Mahamudai,
          Yes there are a lot misconception about the donkey around the world, but they are the hard working animals especially in our regions both in Ethiopia. Their military uses may be diminished compared to the camel or horses. Perhaps they were first domesticated in our region. The wild donkey is now survives only in Eritrea and Ethiopia.( I think Eritrea has the most in the Danakil region). I think it is time we honor our donkeys. The donkey is the National Symbol of the Democratic party in the US. I wonder if they could also be used as tourist attraction to Eritrea?
          International donkey ride competition?

          • AOsman

            Dear Dawit,

            V.F whispered to me that he wants to use it as a symbol for the federation party, he is only waiting for approval from Abi :), so hold your donkeys.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Fnote Selam
          • saay7

            Hey Dawit/Mahmoud:

            One of the jokes told by agelglot making fun of generals uses the stereotype of the donkey as a dumb animal. A donkey is talking to an old friend, a camel, and he says: “you and I struggled for Eritrea equally. But, after independence, you are on the state currency, coat of arms, emblem, passport… me, I am nowhere! Is this fair? The camel says I did my duty without complaining. You had to be beaten every step of the way. But if you feel so badly about it, you can go to Bitsay Isaias and ask him if he can put your image as one of the ribbons on the uniforms of generals.

            The donkey is unfairly accused of being a dumb animal. This is because he “doesn’t listen” and has to be beaten to do anything. But the truth is that a donkey won’t move, no matter how much you beat him, if he senses danger ahead. And with his giant ears, he senses danger everywhere.

            saay

          • AOsman

            even when there is no danger, it just wont move. The nicest donkey and the nicest owner follows:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJMtcDdFgVI

          • saay7

            AOsman:

            Had to wince the whole time: I was waiting for the kick when he was pushing it.

            This is a family website so I won’t tell you: but there is one absolutely guaranteed way to move it. Also PETA may be reading this.

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, can we make word association. Poke, behind, balls, stick, nudge.
            The white man would appear an idiot if Osman’s clip is shown to my uncle back home.

          • AOsman

            SAAY,

            I did the same, but realised the donkey in not African…. one that is naturalised (double domesticated).

            Growing up in gaza banda, I guess your trick is only theoretical, before trying you would probably get the knock out back kick. Here follows the family friendly trick by the cleaver Alibaba that I was taught as a kid:

            http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/esel-und-karotte-10227536.jpg

            Regards
            AOsman

          • saay7

            Hey AOsman:

            But when I was growing up, Mai Ch-hot was an empty field…and that’s where the donkeys came to graze. And to do all the things donkeys do, which is not G-rated.

            saay

          • AOsman

            OK it is not Edaga Hamus :), I realised I forgot to include the link in the last comment

            http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/esel-und-karotte-10227536.jpg

    • Maekebay

      Mahmuday,

      Nice nostalgia. The donkey had also served ghedli equally in the highland of Eritrea. By the way, what does the innocent animal (camel) has to do with all the crimes that the barbaric ghedli had committed on the Eritrean people?

      Maekebay

      • Rahwa T

        Dear Maekebay,

        እንቋዕ ኣብፀሓካ !

        All your comments are fruitful and to the point that has touched Colonel Mahmud’s nerve to the extent he seemed allergic of your name. His anger and hate towards your comments is reflected in his repeated failure not respond to any of your recent posts addressed to him.

        With my respect to you and like-minded-guys at Awate

        ቡሩኽ ባዓል መስቀል

  • dawit

    Dear Gud, the sermon was not directed to you, even though I used you name on the introduction, it has to do more to Ethiopian elite who keep wining about Eritreans in Ethiopia (Amiche) behavior as a justification to keep thinking in twisted way.

    • Gud

      Hey dawit,
      Cool. I got you. The story about your Bruce Lee friend and your mom is fascinating.

      • dawit

        Gud, my friend Bruce Lee once told me he was offered a job by PIA to be a trainer EDF but he said he refused. But I didn’t believe him. But who knows he could be right. I know he was assigned as Anti Hijacker with Ethiopian Airlines flying to Europe and ME.

  • dawit

    Selam to all
    Awatistas Blessed Sunday:

    On Friday, Our Mufti here at Awate.com led our Friday prayer and he asked
    me to five another Sunday Sermon, so here I am with today’s sermon from Mathew
    5:9

    “Blessed
    are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” This past few
    days Awate.com was on fire, every one shooting aimlessly, bullets flying
    everywhere. Gud against, Amanuel Hidrat, Mahmud Saleh, Horizon, Amede etc, VF
    shooting aimlessly in all direction, and poor Abi caught in the middle with
    Eyob and Addis adding some spices, Abesha berbere singing

    “ኣንድ እፍኝ በርበሬ
    ብደቁሰው ብደቁሰው

    ኣገሩን ሁሉ
    ኣስነጠሰው ኣስነጠሰው

    Ethiopians brought their memory back from 1991, when
    EPLF defeated the Ethiopian Derg army and TPLF walked to Menelik Palace, felt
    betrayed by Eritreans, and were ready to plot to remove their friends from
    Ethiopia, to be deported, because the Eritrean Ethiopians were happy for the
    end of the war in their country. You know abi, I was also extremely delighted when the war
    ended and Eritrea was separated. That crazy war has cut short the lives of many
    of my childhood close friends, I grew up with. Coming from poor neighborhood in
    Addis, many of my friends were enlisting in the army just to get job to help
    their families. After their basic training they were assigned to Ogaden, but at
    that time there was no active war in Ogaden, they came to visit their families
    after few years’ service hanging together few bars and tea houses, eating paste
    and biscuts, drinking tela , tej or katikal . But when the Liberation war in
    Eritrea intensified, most of them were shipped to Eritrea, and all died there
    except one, who is now in Addis turned alcoholic. What is amazing, all those
    poor souls, have no idea why or who they were fighting, except what they heard
    from the government radio of ‘Arab invasion or fighting a few ‘shiftas’ or
    ”Agamidos’ a terminology coined to refer to the Eritrean Liberation fighters
    to distinguish them from other African Liberation Fronts, in Angola, Mozambique
    or Guinea Bissau. The government also organized demonstration rallies in the
    city and towns throughout Ethiopia, starting in Eritrea, “AREBOCH
    YWTU” “ERTRA ATSHETIM”. That was the time when all Yemeni Arabs
    left the country, leaving their wives and children behind. That was the time Ethiopia lost its Arab-bet
    and the Gurage Suq-bederete took over the retail shops our favorite tea shop
    where we listened the latest Amaharic and Sudanese songs was sold and I am sure
    those poor Yemeni businesses were sold cheap, in their rush to leave the
    country.. What was funny most of my friends did not know where Eritrea was
    located. They cannot differentiate between Axum and Asmara or Yemen from Syria.
    That was Haile Sellasie’s time.

    When the Durg came
    there was ‘Gefefa’, and of course our poor neighborhood was targeted and several
    of my younger brother’s age were rounded to join the army. All of them went to
    Eritrea and none came back alive, except one who escaped through Sudan now he
    lives in Canada. My own younger brother escaped the rounding and left to
    Eritrea and joined EPLF and he also died in the war, just before independence,
    shooting at his friends and they also shooting to kill him.

    So you see Abi why
    I hate that war and rejoiced when it ended. What amazed me at that time many of
    my Ethiopian friends in America were sad and some discontinued our friendship.
    I was mad on those friends and confused about those Ethiopian, friends instead
    of rejoicing and celebrating the end of the war, I could not understand why
    they were sad. I think for some the war in Eritrea was like watching a video
    game instead of actual real life being wasted to keep the map of Ethiopia they
    grew up with. Most of my friends in America, were from privileged classes, and they
    all left Ethiopia through Bole, many with government scholarships or had
    wealthy parents who could afford to buy them air ticket and live with their relatives
    who came before them in the country. On the other hand I left Ethiopia, right
    at the beginning of the Red Terror, through Moyale as a refugee to Kenya, and
    through many roundabout ways I ended up in America. Perhaps they were mad when
    I rejoiced the end of Mengistu’s regime. They were not prepared for it perhaps
    thinking that Ethiopia will defeat EPLF by trusting the Mengisu war propaganda,
    but as an Eritrean I was sure that EPLF was going to win the war, because I was
    closely watching the development in Ethiopia and Eritrea. Now, Abi, Eyob and
    Addis you may feel betrayed when Eritreans in Ethiopia rejoiced the end of the
    war, you must misunderstood their rejoicing for pride or arogancy, because you
    never experienced what they went through living in Ethiopia. You only saw their
    material wellbeing, but have no idea how they felt inside, being tormented when
    they hear that their villages were being wiped out and their loved one were massacred.
    How could you, when you are the sons and
    daughters of the privileged class in the sea of poverty. Now you bring Ato
    Gebretinsae’s words what he said or what he didn’t in the middle of his tragedy
    when he was being robbed in the middle of the day all of his belonging he
    labored to accumulate all his life. I knew Ato Gebretinsae personally, he was a
    decent family person, hardworking and he was helping many of his distance
    relatives sending them to school. One of his nephews was my good friend. All
    the spaghetti, fork and spoon business must have been pure propagandas, the
    Woyane government exploited to incite the non Eritrean population to support
    their fabricated border war. Just like the ‘Urban Myth’ how Eritrea became the
    largest coffee exporter in Africa’. Now Eyob, you have the burden of bringing
    that VOA interview to prove your ‘Spagettiti Fork Story to convince AT and in
    particular to your friend Addis. But then why bring this story today? What
    benefit would it bring except perpetuating the haltered between Eritreans and
    Ethiopians?

    Let me conclude my
    sermon by bringing another personal story. During the height of the deportation
    period, some Kebele members where my mother lived almost her whole life wanted
    to deport her because she was Eritrean and voted during the Eritrean
    referendum. Some of the people in the neighborhood were worried, because they
    were about to lose their lifelong Iqub chairwomen. It became the topic of the daily
    coffee chat in the neighborhood. My only childhood friend also heard about it.
    When he heard the news he rushed to the kebele meetings, and warned every one
    of them. He told them this lady is our mother, whether she came from this side
    of Tigre or that side of Tigre it does not matter, she is our mother. If anyone
    of you visits her home, I swear I will break your legs. My friend was a member
    of the Ethiopian Airborn army. He was the top trainer of Marshal art to the
    Airbone soldiers. I was told a story, one night he was going home past the
    curfew time. Four Abyot tebaqiwoch stopped him started to mistreat him. He
    knocked down four of them, took their guns and left it at the kebele office. So
    the kebele knew what he could do when provoked. No kebele member visited
    my mother and spared her from crazy deportation frenzy. So you
    see my friend did the right thing at a time when everyone acted crazy. I was
    also told that he refused to serve the Woyane army when he was recalled to
    train soldiers for the Bademe war. Now if there was anyone to be bitter about
    the defeat of the Ethiopian army in Eritrea, he should be because he gave his
    whole life for the wrong cause. But he understood it late, and when it was ever
    he walked away from it and now works as security guard and drink daily. Never married
    had no children, but I am grateful for saving my mother, he still visit her and
    she give him ‘engocha’ and ‘ambasha’ like he did as a child, because that was
    how we grewup, every family sharing whatever they have. Though we were all
    poor, no child went hungry in our neighborhood, Amazingly we also lived next
    door to the Emperor’s palace!, breathing same air, sharing same rain and
    sunshine with king of kings!.

    To conclude my
    sermon, I am asking humbly to all Ethiopians and Eritreans at AT university, to
    learn the truth and avoid bringing ideas that put further divisions among the
    two people. Work for peace, the only ingredient that is badly needed in the
    region.
    “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called
    children of God”

    • dawit

      Just a minor correction and explanation. My mom was the chairwomen of the Idir not Iqub. She is still the Chair at the age of 85! She is not a dictator, but elected unanimously by the idir members. She came to US to visit twice, once in 1991, just before the liberation and another time in 2008 for her grand daughter graduation. In both occasion, the idir members, reserved her chairmanship till she returned.

      • V.F.

        Dawit, your mom is 85? God bless her. That makes you like over 60? ha? I always thought you would be nitricc’s age by your naivety.

    • Abi

      Pastor dawit
      Have you noticed the love and respect between your mother and her defender.
      The fact that she is taking care of from what she has shows she is a great person. Moreover, she is still a trusted and respected chairwoman of her edir. An eritrean chairwoman in an ethiopian community.
      This is the ethiopia I know. The exemplary attitude your mother demonstrated is what I expected from the majority of eritreans.
      You see I have no way of knowing what eritreans talk among themselves. I have never heard of Ona and other places before I registered at Awate.
      Your story and your ethiopian friends story is the story of Ethiopia. You put it nicely.
      I hope Saay doesn’t call you drama queen. I don’t blame him. He never lived in ethiopia he never got a chance to witness how we lived in good and bad times.

      PS
      I don’t want to miss this opportunity to say ” enatu dagna liju qemagna!”

      • saay7

        Hey Abi:

        DRAMA QUEEN. : a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions.

        Example: oh, my my my! Lordy Lordy lord! Well, I never would have thought that when you cluster bomb people and burn them alive, they want nothing to do with you.

        Haven’t seen that from Dawit. But I have seen plenty of that from you and Eyob.

        cheers!

        saay

      • dawit

        Abi,

        Waw Abi another title for dawit, ‘Pastor’. Very soon I will accumulate half page titles like Mengistu and Idi Amin Dada. Speaking of my mother (I hope you will not be bored by my family stories) she is very intelligent, a rebel, independent and straight person). She came to Addis before the Federation not looking for wealth or any thing, but running away from the traditionally arranged engagement. For some reason she didn’t liked the arranged marriage staff and didn’t like her fiancé. One day she run away from Asmara and ended up in Addis. She worked as a nanny to a Maltase family who were working as agent for British Airways, with whom she was working in Asmara, before they transferred to Addis. Her father traced to Ethiopia and kept her writing letters to return home for her wedding. She was writing letter back to her father she will be back soon, in the mean time she was preparing to go to Malta with the family when their contract ended. Running away to Ethiopia was not far enough to skim the arranged marriage. One day she was invited to an engagement party of some Eritrean she knew she arrived in Addis, there she mate my father and they fell in love and got married. She accepted her new society and blended right away she learned the language and the culture. She joined the Mahiber, Iqub and Idir in the community. My father had high position in the Ethiopian government and a private business before he gave it up all because of his political stand on Eritrea and Ethiopia. My mother looked the problem from fairness point of view. She always said it was unfair for thirteen provinces against one province Eritrea and because of that she opposed the war. The children we were well informed about Ethiopian and Eritrean politics at home, but we did not talked about it outside the home, national politics was not a topic we discussed. We talk about sport, kambolojo, buhe enqutatash, meskel, gena, fasika everything that has to do with food . I see your point that you could not know what Eritreans in Ethiopia were talking among them selves.

        Now Abi, you cannot say Enatu dagna, liju kemagna. My mother was democratically dagna. She was not imposed by the king or Derg from above. Every thing in Idir is pure democracy, membership or service was voluntary by the community for the welfare of community.(traditional grass root democracy at work). You know Abi, some times I see my mother’s character on PIA, except unlike her, he has the power to imprison his members.
        Enkuwan Lebrhane Meskel Adreswo!
        Cheers!

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Dawit:
      This is a moving sermon, reconciliatory, but it satanic sermon, it is an anguished need to fill the void that the relationship with Woyane has left. During the signing of the peace agreement DIA was desperate to meet PMZ, he hugged MZ by almost forcing himself into him. It was awkward. The betrayal of Woyane hurt DIA so much, we also read his desperate hand written letters pleading with MZ, while a year later he would ignore the pleading of his friends. DIA is more fond of the enemies of Eritrea than the heroes of Eritrea.
      This reminds me of Arafat and Rabin at the white house, when Clinton brokered the handshake by calling them the sons of Ismael and Issac. Rabin hesitated just like MZ did before shaking the hand of exuberant Arafat, it took a nudge from Clinton, that peace accord is remembered more for that awkward moment than the peace it has ushered in
      Now, DIA is hurt by TPDM’s betrayal and so are you and you are reaching out to Ethiopia before reaching out to those in ELa-Ero and Karsheli, any relationship that does not first mend with Eritreans, any sermon that doe not address the Eritrean people and reconciliation that bypasses the people of Eritrea will be useless in alleviating the suffering that you laugh at its non-existence.

      • dawit

        Dear Cousin SEM,
        From today onward, you should address me Pastor dawit, because our friend the honorable Abi has bestow on me the title “Pastor”. I hope Awate.com rules enforcers will take notice, how you should address members. You wrote it was a moving sermon. I see that it has definitely moved you all over the place. The ‘Satanic Sermon’ has moved you from DIA, PMZ, Rabin, Arafat, Clinton, Ela-Ero, Karsheli etc. etc.I don’t know what you are writing about. I think you are possessed with kind of Canadian demons. You need to seek help, as Reverend or a Pastor, I could pray for you or listen to your confession and order your demons to leave your body.