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I Am Right!

Have you ever been to Sudan and ordered “Fool” with “jibnna”, “taemmia”, double sesame seed oil and eggs? If you have not, please do. I recommend it. You will obtain your daily dose of the essential food types in one sitting. But it has its drawback: it will make you sluggish and sleepy especially if you have it for lunch and before attending classes. This reminds me of how a friend described the experience of this phenomenon: “hisset hissab ende enta qisset mesletteni.” — I mistook the math lecture for a story.

If you eat this wholesome delicious dish, while it nourishes your body, it has the “dietary” hazard mentioned above. It is up to you to consume it moderately and wash it with “haja baarda,” that is to say common sense is your friend when consuming this dish. If you are a penniless students, like I was, and eating “Fool” induces a crippling fear of snoozing during classes, you will be starving.

The notion of receiving help from Ethiopia conjures images of horror, redrawing of our borders, realigning of Assab or to put it in the words of my teenage friend, those who oppose the notion are, “hisset hisab ende enta gisset meslettom.”

War is destructive as we can all concur and both the people of Eritrea and Ethiopia have seen more than their share of carnage conducted by their leaders in their good names and the war should have ended by 1991. It was reignited to claim lives yet again. The proverbial mighty pen succumbed to thuggish barrel of the gun, negotiation was defeated by bullying and arrogance, and so the war won and everyone else lost. The aftermath of the war was especially devastating for Eritrea, a nation that boasted rising from the ashes, it was unable to even arouse the vibrant national fire that Eritreans are known for. Along the people, the heroism and volition to fight for the country has been trashed. Eritrea continued its enduring turgid legacy, refused the myriad opportunities it was offered to her to reform, learn and move on. It was even so arrogant to dust itself off, in the contrary, it rolled itself into the dust.

A quarter of a century after its emergence as an impendent state, and 15 years after the last war ended, Eritrea under its homegrown dictator is in its worst shape in every aspect, and if things do not change soon, the ashes from which it has a chance to rise will be hard to collect. It was Idris Jemie, a Sudanese poet who once, describing his bad fortune, said the following:

“Ena hazzi kedeqiq foq showkin nesseruhu
Wo qallu Lilhufatti yemma rihin ajemaehu

Saaeba alamir alyhim wo qallu atrukhu
Haza ensannun ashqahu rebbi
Keifa antum tesEdihu”

My luck is very fine and someone scattered it over a thorny field

They ordered bare-footed people to collect it in a windy day
It became an impossible task to accomplish
So they called it a day
This is a human being who is being punished by the Almighty
How can you make him happy?

At a time when almost an entire village has been emptied from its best, brightest and youngest members, who hazard the treacherous seas and deserts, risking organ harvesting, at a time when the civilized nations like USA are grappling and agonizing how to control arms, while Eritrea is shrewdly arming its citizens involuntarily, a time when the people are at the cusp of giving up on Eritrea, the matter of PFDJ vs. the Eritrean people is very urgent. The longer PFDJ’s unfettered and calculated damage to the fabrics of the society stays, the more the ashes become like that of the poet: scattered over a thorny field and our bared footed population will be unable to collect it in the windy days.

Ethiopia is disrespecting both Eritreans and the international community by refusing to withdraw from sovereign Eritrean land, this a glaring fact. However, it has nothing to do with what the PFDJ has decided to do with the 99.99% of the population and the land under its control. It hired Ethiopian mercenaries, the TPDM, to round-up and abuse Eritreans in their cities, in their homes, in their land, where their blood has been spilled. PFDJ has established a mafia government whose litany of crimes against the people is fit for many books.

The complex relationship between the two peoples has been there from time immemorial and it will be there for infinity. We have our interests to look after and they have theirs to shepherd, a symbiotic relationship that can be carefully and sagaciously manipulated to help both peoples accomplish their dreams. The Eritrean people are in need of an ally to lend them a hand and to receive help. And who better to be an ally than Ethiopia? It is not perfect, we cannot custom create an ally we want, but we can do with what we have. Ethiopia, right now, is where most of our people are flocking to, where they feel safe from PFDJ’s suffocating and lethal grip. It is the right place for the opposition to be. I have this to say to those who are apprehensive of the invasion of the “Habesha State” to “Habeshasize” Eritrea: It will not happen, even Ethiopia cannot “Habeshasize” itself. If it tries to do so there will not be country called Ethiopia.

Eritea needs to make a decision and soon, that is not only accepting its highly diverse nature but also living it. The opportunity for Eritrean “Justice Demanders” to harness the Ethiopian help that is available but needs to be earned by showing a united opposition will not last forever. This also has been muddied by the department of fear mongering.

There is confusion about the elusive change from within. What does it mean to say change must come from within? To some, it is for the criminal PFDJ to weigh its options and make some amends to make life easier for the people so the exodus can stop, and with it, the future of the country will be salvageable. This is impossible as gauged by the rhetoric of PFDJ and its track record. The other option is for the “Forto” kind of coup by good people to hand power to its rightful owners, the people. This is a possibility, but it will be slow and the country may become unsalvageable by the time they seize power. The fastest and equally safe means is for the opposition to laser focus on the removal of PFDJ and suspend all its secondary political agendas and unite under one banner and establish a viable alternative to PFDJ that can entice Ethiopia to irresistibly salivate to support them militarily without Ethiopia directly invading or perceived to be invading a sovereign nation that will be bad for Eritrea, bad for the region and bad for Ethiopia.

The dangers and unpredictability of war is obvious, and is not different if some PFDJ groups conduct a coup. The puritan myth of going it alone is toxic as nothing can be done alone. The successful artist had a benefactor, the accomplish writer had a master mentor and the successful carpenter had an apprentice to refine his craft. And that is how the Ghedli did it to successfully remove the Dergi

Just like the wholesome “Fool”, the help from Ethiopia requires common sense and right timing to make utmost and safe use of Ethiopia’s untapped but available help for the opposition.

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  • Ali

    those who oppose the use of help from Ethiopia are PFDJ. The wise TPLF once used the advantage of ELF during their start. But they were also wise they were not dependent to any one. TPLF had a good self reliance. the important thing is not to be dependent of any one. The highlanders are always empty pot. they always tell history of the Italiance. I beg the ELL should use the advantage we have at hand from any of our neighbors to remove the Esayas government.

    • selam

      Dear Ali

      I still want to believe you are not Eritrean i really do you are using my brothers name for another purpose .
      You mean these right . I am the most ugly person when it comes to the past story but i can tell you i am not that much like you and if i ever accuse the higlanders like you i will totally get out from any forum.And i hope will never be like you ali.I am not related to the highlanders but i feel they have paid high price forget about the old bashay , fitewrari , bulugmbash.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGvmuzF2e0

      • Ali

        Dear brother do not go spliting the hair. I am clear with my idea that is we have to use all means to remove the government of Esayas. Who do you think will oppose the removal of the Esayas government who destroyed the dignity of our (The highland and lowland) people which has never been seen in history. Have you come across who say for Eritreans and Somali you can not go out of the air port because you may escape. this has never been seen in the history. Please focus on the core issue than branches. Do you think that Ali is the name given to your brother?

        • selam

          I am your sister not your brother.

          If i forget what you said in other posts , i can certainly give second thought but you keep hammering the same message for almost on every article . Why do not you drop the bad mouthing about 50% of your people then. As you , i have made a mistake in one article about the highlanders and that was about federation but i read and ask , also i have met people in this forum who can tell what was back then ,and i apologized but you keep the divisive words on and on.

          Do you think my point about your authenticity is valid , i think so.
          I am giving you 48 hours ice.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Nice Selam nice.

          • selam

            Ok thanks for your help Kokhob but i can read myself what he said and what he did not so no argument about that. Or there is sth you want me to know , i mean beyond the things he is righting.
            Does he need your help ? I already said i gave him 48 hours ice.

          • Ali

            my sister please show the Video for any emotional person. I am not such a person who can decided without reasoning, this is something that you can show for ignorant and emotional. I think you do not understand with whom you are discussing.

          • selam

            o Ja i have no clue who you are , what is this bragging ? did i sense some thing from the old book. These words are used daly by IA . And i am afraid you can be one of them. I have to run Ali is coming , help help help.
            A. Ata ata ata Tedefirina Ata entay kenka
            A. Ata ata ata Tedefrinah Ata entay kenka

            A. Ata ata ata Tedefirna Ata Entay Kenka
            Ata tedefirna zeynifelit tedefirna Ata entay kenka

            Xaxe nekisuni Kid dirbay , bejakum abti enda anahib exewuwo.

  • dawit

    Dear SEM, you finally wrote an excellent piece what is truly in your heart.100% Right for an Ethiopian beggar but 100% wrong for a proud Can Do people! Eritrean! Sorry It is a difference of culture. Your kind of people will never reverse Eritrean Independence because today’s Eritrea is 100% armed and ready to pay any sacrifice needed as usual. Remember Eritrea “Never Kneel Down!”. Ask Mr. Ali Abdu or your friend Mr. Connell.
    Peace!
    your friend dawit

    • Semere Andom

      Ahlen dawit:
      Yes, my kind of people will never attempt to reverse the Eriteran independence, only PFDJ and its supporters can reverse it and it is this close to doing so unless guys like me intervene. Thanks for the well-deserved credit.
      Correction; Last time I checked Mr. Connell was a friend of PFDJ. Our land is under Ethiopia occupation, and Ethiopia bombed us twice in 2012 for no reason but just because they can and you the 100% armed did noting about it. And you the never kneel down, knelt down and gave 25km buffer zone. So you can repeat slogans, but Ethiopia still defeated PFDJ and it still occupies the Eritrean land and above all Eritrean still flock to Ethiopia and there are 200,000 refuges in the refugee camps. repeat after me: “Eritrea is not safe for its citizens, but Ethiopia is.” and when the trend changes, that is to say when Eritrea become safe for its citizens, I will say it

      • dawit

        SEM, you keep surprising me. It is not unusual for few Eritreans cross border and sleep with Ethiopians. During the armed struggle, there were also the Asfahas , Tedla Okbits, Tedla Bayrus and Dimetros who were sleeping with the enemy of the Eritrean people. Today also there are the Abdu,s and their kind of people. Today 200,000 Eritreans cross the border, and during the arm struggle for independence, there were 200,000 civilians were massacred in their villages every year, their houses and farms were destroyed, by Ethiopian colonial army. Ethiopia which is not safe for its own citizens, the Ogaden, The Oromos, the Gambelas etc massacred every day by millions, will never be safe for Eritreans. If some misguided sheep think Ethiopia as Green Pasture, they will soon find out that they have a different color of their eyes. You don’t have the 25 KM buffer zone, in Eritrea, the Eri Govt kicked the fake UN Peace keepers and has populated it with Ethiopian opposition armies, TPDM, Arbegnoch Ginbar, Ginbot 7 armies as buffer shield against Ethiopian invasion. It is now a true buffer zone! History will repeat those opposition forces will march to Addis just like the Woyane did two decades ago! The Connells and the Abdus were exposed as the CIA agents and that is why the labor day and night to sanction the Eritrean people, but despite their effort Eritrea is still standing on its two feet and marching forward. If some misfits run away, Eritrean independence and development can not be reversed, as long as the great majority of youth believe and stand for its independence.
        dawit

        • Semere Andom

          Dear dawit:
          Maybe you can tell the future, I have no idea about the future, history may repeat but most of the time it does not, but rhymes and is doing so in our case. About the buffer zone, the point was PFDJ knelt down, so much for the never kneel down. And still Ethiopia is occupying Eritrean territory.
          Gleaning from your writing you have no clue about freedom and independence: you are willing to allow the crimes of PFDJ so they can reign only over the real state called Eritrea, devoid of its people, devoid of it youth, devoid of it tegadalti, devoid of its founding fathers, devoid of its grand fathers, devoid of its heroes,but littered with seasoned criminals. You are in denial and it is clear that your change of mind will come with change of government in Eritera, until then enjoy your slogans.
          About the Eritreans slaughtered by your other country(Ethiopia), I do not need reminders, I comment about it every time and thanks God my parents and I were not economically helping Ethiopia when it did that and I do not call that country my country and that history of crimes my history, but you do.
          You just called the 200,000 Erireans who decided that Eritrea is not safe for them and their loved ones as sleeping with the enemy like the “weddo-Gebba” ( is that the write word Gadi, I screwed it up before so?)

          And who is this Abdu guy you are obsessed anyways?

  • saay7

    Kbur Emma:

    So there is “taboo” in working with Ethiopia? I thought there is no taboo, according to our friend Ghezae.

    saay

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Abu Saleh,

      The taboo is “Ethiopia is our sworn enemy, and we can’t fight PFDJ from Ethiopia”. All the opposition who are based in Ethiopia are “eshi ghetaye” or “Andnetawian” or “dedebitawian”. That is all we are hearing. That is what I am referring to the word “taboo”.

      Regards,
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • saay7

        Emma:

        But why should that bother you? You don’t need to win the hearts and minds of the stubborn “hate-filled” internet writers. You should ignore these b’and ej yemikoteru spoilers. As a peaceful, progressive, non-personality-based politicians, all you have to do is win the hears and minds of Eritreans on whose behalf you are doing the “Interdependent-Forward-Looking-Kumbaya-For-Change”. No?

        saay

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Abu Saleh,

          Why do you advice us to do that “the way you said it” if you don’t support it? After all giving your advice, you said, No. I haven’t seen an adviser tell you to do something which he himself doesn’t support it. Thanks Abu Saleh. Your sarcastic advice, I got it.

          regards,

          • saay7

            Emma Arkey:

            Ayt’khori. I am just following up on the recommendation of Ghezae Hagos who told us, you do your thing and lets do our thing. I am saying, for the sake of clarity, as Confucius advised in “rectification of names” can we “call them by their names” so we don’t confuse the Eritrean people and they can choose? It would be a good alternative over the current alphabet soup that nobody knows what they stand for.

            This would be an awesome opportunity for you and Ghezae to prove us wrong and throw us to dustbin of history. Doesn’t that sound wonderful to you?

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Abu Saleh,

            No, I don’t throw my colleagues in to dustbin of history, because he differs in the tactical approach of the struggle if we agree our strategy is “Isaays and his party”. Oh please I know who is my enemy and my friend in the struggle of justice. So “tuf-belo”. For me it is okay to debate with my colleagues to narrow our difference. The only I hate it “tserfi” or “Zeytegerze melhas.”

          • saay7

            Ato Amanuel:

            Really? I can do that? I am so confused because if there is one thing I learned from amanuels pol-sci 101 when we were discussing PFDJ is that it’s all about the SYSTEM. So if there is a PFDJ system and oh yes the other phrase VALUE SYSTEM that permeates every branch every department of PFDJ from the president to the head of janitorial services, wouldn’t that also apply to the EPRDF? I am so confused 🙂

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            I think your last comment was posted during my sleeping-time-zone. So here is my answer, why should I worry about the nature of government of EPRDF, while I have my own worry about the government of my nation. The EPRDF issue is an Ethiopian issue, it will be handled by Ethiopians. Don’t worry about that. But on the issue of PFDJ we have a different take and we will keep debating, because it is our issue. Your position on PFDJ so far is, there is no such a system in the PFDJ governance, or political structure; it is one man institution. I don’t, and I have argued in my article with the reasons I have stated in it. Second, I am against the value system of PFDJ. But it is “in correct” to extend my argument beyond the “president and the technocrats” who are the building blocks of PFDJ system, to the janitorial services. There is no confusing in my argument – It is straight forward, you could support or oppose it as such, which I don’t have qualms as far as it remains a clash of ideas. So far I am clear with what each of us is intend to do, where we agree, and where we differ. But, to my question, did you accept my offer to be the highest technocrat to lead the diplomatic core of the opposition, to sit with Ethiopian government officials and to make it clear about our position as to the nature of our relationships and the limits of help that we can get from them? I am serious sal. So far for certain reason we are afraid from the round table of diplomatic talk.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • saay7

            Kemey kemey Ato amanuel:

            If PFDJ is a system with its own values, it stand to reason that EPRDF is a system with its own values.

            A “system” or a value system, in your narration, is a strait-jacket for the head of government: s/he is bound by the “system.” This doesn’t allow any room for Gorbachev (there was It doesn’t allow any room for the new king of Saudi Arabia to make any policy changes (he did.)

            The argument for PFDJ being a one-man system is that he has total power to run the affairs of the State, and there are no constraints to his power from anybody in the government or the party. There is no moment in his entire presidency where he says “I wish I could do this but _____ won’t allow me to do that.” Not bound by the charter of his party, nor the constitution. Thus Eritrea is, what did we use to say when we’re kids and we were excited we could ride a bike with one hand? Uno Mano. Its a State run uno mano. And u know what happens if u try to ride a bike uphill, uno mano.

            Now what exactly is ur understanding of a “technocrat” because u keep calling me that and I know u mean it as a compliment. What is my skill, if any, and how is that remotely technocratic?

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Saay,

            A technocrat is some one who has the administrative skills, whether it is in governmental sector or private sector. You are a CEO of an educational institute. You are a good communicator. You are a self-educated politician with all the resources around you, in the institution you belong with. Above all, you are a good debater, that makes you to be a candidate to argue for the interest of our nation on the table of diplomatic-talk. How about that Saay? Don’t reserve your know how to your country, when it is at dire situation. Criticism is easy. To find yourself at the top of the challenge is rewarding, and it is self-fulfillment to you in particular and to our nation in general. Come on Saay.

            The rest of your comment, regarding the PFDJ, is your opinion which is diametrically opposite to my opinion. I will live to argue my position until those who believe “the neutralization of Issayas” will bring the dismantlement of the institutions of oppression becomes realistic in the Eritrean proper. That is your theory. If it happened, I will admit that my assessment was wrong. Otherwise, the debate will continue until new circumstances comes up and dictate us to make adjustment.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • saay7

            Aya Amanuel:

            If the EPRDF sat with me in a roundtable, despite the fact that I represent no constituency, no statecraft expertise–it would naturally not be a round table meeting (roundtable implies meeting of equals.) It would be the same kind of meeting the EPRDF has been having with the Addis-flocking opposition, and it would be like the furniture arrangement in a courtroom.

            But let’s say they were to meet with technocrats who have actually run the machinery of the State; people who have some experience with politics (the art of power distribution) and people who have some common ground with EPRDF–Ghedli partnership, for example. Wouldn’t that be a more productive meeting. Something you would hold ur nose and support for the good of the country?

            That’s why you should delegate former technocrats of the Eritrean government:) ambassadors, directors, general managers…

            What do you think Emma Arkey?

            Saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Abu Saleh,

            With a glimpse of smile on my face, I will tell you how you are better than them (a) you know they have failed miserably, and they let us to be the laughing stock in the stage of international community (b) They don’t have even interest to engage in the politico-diplomacy. zero (c) Because they were in the institution of the ruling government doesn’t mean in anyway excels the technocrats we have outside of their system (d) we are looking fresh technocrats with fresh idea to change the discourse of our politico-diplomacy from the current ones (e) You have proved in your knowledge and in your debate the elements required for the diplomatic core of Eritrea (f) your constituency are the opposition camp (g) The people you are referring are the product of the failed state, so there is no any expertise from the statecraft of PFDJ (though I don’t believe there is statecraft in Eritrea). I am telling you, I have sat with some of them, they don’t have the diplomatic language in their talk. Trust me saay, we are looking an individual with “a practical of cleverness” that brings tangible success in the region as well as in the international institutions.

            I remember one lady asking Obama to recruit him for the presidential bid before he officially declare to go for the contest. I could visualize how the lady was happy when Obama become the president of USA. Though, for different purposes, Keep in mind, I am doing exactly the same. Go ahead Saay that is the area we have failed miserably.

            Now back to EPRDF, all the talks and attitudes you try to explain, is not from the officials of the government. They are from the ordinary Ethiopians, who debate in this forum. When you sit at the table, the game is different, and the focal point of the politico-diplomacy argument will be on mutual interest, peace, stability, and development, and you will enjoy the practical engagement, than the exchange we make here in the internet-politics.

            Remember, I am not calling you to represent the regime, I am calling you to represent the opposition camp to change the stature of the current struggle. If you agree on that, we will talk about the composition of the team, of course we will keep them undisclosed until the mission is set, and are ready for the trip. How about that? I hope you will not call me king maker, and I am not for sure. My point is, there is many way you could play in politico-diplomacy to change the discourse of our politics, way beyond what you are doing here, in the internet-politics. History is calling on your know how to help your nation and your people.

            regards,

          • saay7

            Emma:

            Ummmm, thanks? I have recorded this short video for my response. Politics combines 3 of my least favorite activities: talking, talking and talking. If history is calling on me, she is blind, deaf and mute. 🙂

            Saay

            http://youtu.be/_VrFV5r8cs0

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Saay,

            Are you kidding, to talk with nitricc and his likes in this medium. Why are you throwing your “inquisitive mind”. Remember you didn’t climb to CEO with the attitude “I have to know my limitation”. For sure not. In fact from your debate you like “challenge”. One who has the stamina to face the challenge, there is no limit in what he want to accomplish. Don’t show me the unrealistic saay. What I know saay is, some one who doesn’t give up on what he want to do. I am trying to mimic your interest, that is all. I saw you giving speeches in the UN, in the University of North Carolina. And I think you were a professor in a college, before you become a CEO of a college. Isn’t this talk, talk what ever the subject it is. What are you talking?

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Nitricc

            Sir, i really don’t appreciate nor deserve you treating me like you know what. i am appreciative for you extending your advice and trying to help me grow as a person but because i disagree with your point of contention; you don’t have to trash me. it says a lot about more than me. I can listen what people advice me or trying to guid me, i do appreciate that but at the end of the day i have to decided for my self and do what i think is right. I really don’t care what you say abut me, but that is not the way to lead and be example. you have never answer me straight up for straight up question; i suspect you deep love and respect for the leaders to the south; you are not even capable to be free and criticize them. you have this self imposed rules not to say anything negative about TPLF. sir, your business is your business and what you have with them is up to you but you can’t get mad when people stand up to you and questioned your stand. you can trash me all you want but i will never weaver from what i believe is the right thing to do. At last, just know I am Nitricc and i will be the force to deal with. in the mean time, you are free to trash me and kiss-up to your beloved weyane. I disagree with you with but it does not mean i don’t respect you and i am thankful for your guidance.
            thanks!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Nitrickay,

            I tried to make you a nice person. I called you my son at one point. You become a lost son. I was expecting you to be a student and learn the history of your people from all corners. At least to wait until independent Historians from your generation compile it. I gave up when your language is limited to dedebit, toothless, andnetawian. You can’t change politics by insulting people. You can only win them through dialogue, and finding common ground for a common goal. I will be happy on you even to debate as PFDJ member, as far as you make enough effort to stick only to ideas. That is what I expected from you. Besides, understand the Eritrean sovereignty is real, even the border issue will be resolved with change of regimes. The current regime hasn’t any clue how diplomacy work. Sitting on the table doesn’t change our position to argue for our interest. The border issue can only be resolved by official governments. You and me crying about it as citizen doesn’t yield anything. Understand diplomacy is only on a round table. if we don’t like round table we lose what we could gain from it. Diplomacy is a peaceful weapon, you have to know that. If you don’t the other alternative is war. And I don’t chose the later. So we need to wise up in our politics. If we don’t the current reality will continue, and I don’t know your generation will rescue the state of Eritrea if we let it in the same trajectory. Saleh is a tough notch technocrat if he has the will to do the good thing. The question is to have the will of doing good thing. If you correct your communication, I am there to give you my humble advice as my son.

            Take care Nitrickay.

          • Nitricc

            Aman, like I have said, I do appreciate it the direction you are provided and all for the advices you given to me. However; don’t take as sign of disrespect when I present what I thought to be a challenging subject. For instance, you keep telling me that we should negotiate and dialogue about the border issue. I am not against any dialogue or normalization but what I am saying is this. When it comes the birder the negotiation and dialogue time has passed long time ago. We went to war because negotiation, dialogue and diplomacy failed. After the blood shade, after all the properties distraction and most of all after the court rendered its verdicts; how on earth do I want to go back to dialogue, negotiation and diplomacy? remember when we had our issue with Yemen, it closed legally and no matter who comes in power for Eritrea, it is a dead issue. because it was done legally. i am saying the same thing on this issue too. If we close it according to the court, the Eritreans and the Tigryans are safe form any future conflict. so we can build our country and serve our people with the cloud of war and conflict.

            okay Fine, let’s accept the dialogue, the negotiation for the sake of peace and economic cooperation
            between the two people. Fine! But if they can even acknowledge, respect, uphold and honor what they sign in front of the world what guarantee do I have they will honor what ever I sign in Mekele or Addis? I don’t think you are bing fair and understanding our concern here. You can not deny they signed an agreement that stated final and binding but when the verdiction didn’t their way, they are
            holding as hostage, is that fair? This is my beef and when stand with them, my principals and the truth comes out to fight you. Other than that I don’t have anything against you. Some times stand up for what is right. and again please answer my question? what guarantee do i have they will honor what ever we agree by having dialogue and negation? sir!
            The rest nothing but respect!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Nitrickay,

            Your concern is my concern, as a matter of fact it is the concern of all Eritreans. When the verdict is given, what ever we might lose or gain, I accept it, and I took as a principle to go for it, for there is no alternative for peace, other than accepting the verdict. What Nitrickay still want you to understand is, we as citizen except showing our position on the verdict, there is nothing we can do. That is our limit. The border issue can be solved by legitimate governments only. We have to pressure to both governments by any means to solve it. Technically there is no way we can pressure as citizen to the Ethiopian government. The only way we can pressure the Ethiopian government is through diplomatic engagement on a round table. The issayas regime doesn’t want it. If you see the position of Saay in his response to Amde, It is the same thing I have been saying since the Ethiopian government brought the five-point plan. The five point plan in my view doesn’t reverse the verdict. It is their proposal on how to implement the verdict, and if both parties want to make adjustment when they are putting the pillars the verdict gave them a leeway for both sides. Otherwise, if they don’t agree they will go where ever the delineation of the map leads. The face to face talk is on the demarcation front, if they could make any adjustment for the affected Eritrean or Ethiopian people in the border areas. So Nitrickay, just understand we can’t live in limbo like this for indefinite. We have to find some kind of resolution for it. We don’t lose from sitting face to face talk. If our affected Eritrean people in the border can benefit from mutual adjustment, we have to go for it. Both government has full power to evaluate what is on the table for adjustment in context of the affected people. I don’t have problem with that. To tell you frankly from point of view, both government have lost the war. The current verdict could have gotten it without going to war. So take it easy, just think how pragmatic-politics could play to resolve it. Our government is clearly is using for holding hostages to our young generation. If you are practical, there is no solution without diplomatic engagement for the border issue. Just cool down, it will be resolved solved slowly but surely.

          • Abi

            Ato Amanuel
            Here is my one liner
            Negotiations or round table discussions happen when both opposing parties have the need to solve their differences .
            As you said in your last paragraph, IA is using the demarcation to hold the youth hostages. That means it is not a priority for him. When it comes to ethiopians the border issue is , at least to the public, is forgotten as eritrea itself. It is not an issue at all. The government is not under pressure of any kind from the public. It can take its time as long as it takes. Actually, the more eritreans cry about it , the less urgent the issue becomes. This is not the right time to negotiate at all . You are weak. Negotiating while weak leads to unfavorable results. Because you will take whatever is thrown to you. It is like a person with a bad credit score at a car dealership. Trust me he will pay the highest price with the highest interest rate.
            My advice is take your time , get stronger, negotiate for better terms. It is not only us with border issues.
            I’m saying this because we have to solve this issue once and for all . We don’t need another war in the future.
            Just a thought not my wish.
            ” siroTu yetaTequt siroTu yifetal
            Yeqenyeley
            Bruk mshet

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam Aman H, and SAAY and whoever cares to read my long Hateta.
            You make more sense now, and the argument between you guys, in my opinion, is limited to that braking moment when PFDJ finally yields.
            First, let me assure you on “PFDJ” value system, I am with you; it needs to be completely and irreversibly dismantled. Here are some of the value systems unique to PFDJ:
            – On politics: totalitarian;
            -On economy: same totalitarian, one that depresses, suffocates, disallows entrepreneurship; one that assumes total control everything under-sun as God-given property
            – On Foreign policy: One that pursues devastating policies that create a state of woe whereby citizens are seized with “everything is against us” which is deliberately formulated for the sole purpose of prolonging PFDJ value system by getting citizens busy with incessant worries in order to deflect their attention from the root cause.
            – On Liberties: pursue the policy of “Liberties are alien values; they don’t belong to us.” or ” Let’s go back to our ghedli culture,” which is “All efforts should be directed to our number one enemies, wayane and CIA and Awate.com, and Amanuel Hidrat, and….and SAAY….and Gen.Nit…wezeterefe. ፍሕት ዝበለ ይትሓጎም። TesfaNews is telling us everything will be different now that the CIA-agent AA has finally been forgotten and his office disinfected. We will see, but you don’t attempt to milk an ox unless you are a PFDJ-whatever.
            On National Defense: Make EDF as an independent institution which could be manipulated to serve that political value system, instead of creating it to be above it, and making it a force that should defend the nation. The abuse of National Service program has tarnished and rendered this institution incapable of standing out as a national institution. The threat that Nit should bother about is not wayane, but a demoralized nation. I do agree the threat from within as Semere in his latest installment touched is more serious to national security than the threat that an Ethiopian influence could exact. We have seen a proud people and nation severely damaged because of this value systems.
            – On social sector: deterioration of family values, deterioration of interest in higher education, Imposing policies which have resulted in creating new and dubious social stratification, such as tegadalai/gabar, new economic forces and classes through their connection to power-centers, religious persecutions and their negative impacts, creating policies in which certain regions are seen as willing collaborators and pitting them against their equally oppressed regions and peoples…the list is long.
            Let me stop there because I can still break each down to subcategories; but I am bringing this to say:
            In the mission of getting rid of these values, you and saay are in the same boat. You will not doubt that saay is not for the continuation of these values. Where you both differ is on how to make that “big bang” moment where PFDJ is finally and completely thrown out. From what I could understand, SAAY is saying PFDJ, or by extension the GOE, is totally controlled by IA. There is no question that there is a structure and a system, however, that system is not a system that could sustain itself as it is without IA. I agree with him here. For anyone who knows the frictions between PFDJ and professional oriented institution of the country, he/she will recognize that what is keeping the balance is not institutionalism and institutional rules and regulations which logically should also keep IA at bay from his whimsical bouts of freezing and disbanding figures and institutions at will. So, I also see this as a bad value system of governance that PFDJ has purposely introduced and cultivated in order to make IA the supreme arbitrator.
            SAAY’s and my view recognizes that the institutions in the country, particularly the political ones, are institutions of administrative nature where instructions/commands and decrees are flowed top-down stream. I think of them as executor entities with no institutional backing to be self regulating, self-sustaining, and self-managed and guided. At any point in time they could be stopped, interrupted, or changed without any legal recourse to resort to in order to protect their existence, quality assurance, productivity…and what have you. They could at any time be dismissed, or created by IA. The institutions are not created to answer public demands but to enhance IA rule.
            The second point this view holds is that the majority of the people in these institutions including EDF are ready for change.
            The third point this view holds is the fact that, at any rate, the people should be at the center of the movement for justice. The people should be looked at as primary stakeholders, including most of PFDJ card holders.
            In conclusion (a hasty conclusion): I don’t think we disagree in our understanding that future Eritrea should be completely the opposite of today’s Eritrea; one that heralds a new dawn of human rights, one that unleashes Eritrean entrepreneurship, one that is at peace with its people and its neighbors, one where a democratically ratified constitution assumes the role of “supreme arbitrator” instead of the dictator; an Eritrea where laws and bylaws which spring out of this supreme law govern the mushrooming of institutions; where institutions serve the purpose of their cause, and stay true to their missions instead of being yanked here and there by the whim of an autocrat. I believe you agree with us here too.
            Therefore, as I understand it, you are talking about the value systems PFDJ introduce, and I have no disagreement here. Our disagreement seems to be on how to achieve that. And that’s why we are talking about Ethiopian based opposition, ELL,….diaspora…
            To me: Everything else will be done with the full participation of the people through mechanisms and schemes prepared to ensure their participation, but the big bang will be done by less a force than the total majority support. All you need is enough support to tilt the balance. In order to get to that we have to work honestly to reduce unnecessary tensions among us, particularly among personalities the public recognize. What we have to watch is amateurish stints that backfire, like the one I posted today targeting Dr.Lainesh.
            Amanuel people like me and you are still living with the scars of the civil war. You have read two news reports this week of some military operations inside Eritrea. There is no alternative to uniting efforts which could win our peoples’ hearts and minds, which in turn could speed up the struggle for change resulting in a less costly victory. Otherwise, without popular support, it will keep being a low-level conflict. People like you who have the privilege of recognition and proximity should stress the need of a united force. Gezae Hagos’ Memengedna is dangerous. If you meet in Asmara trekking from different directions, armed to the teeth, and loaded with conflicting agendas, it’s not going to be good. It will be the beginning of a long nightmarish debacle.

          • Ali

            Hi!Mahmud Salih

            I appreciate you for you try to pin point the problems and sources for disappointment. However, your conceptualization and conclusion are really in paradox. Let me explain myself. At the begging you tell us our enemy are Woyane, CIA and Awate.com. On the other hand you told as Woyane is not a threat to Eritrea. The threat to Eritrea according to your understanding is

            “….. but a demoralized nation. I do agree the threat from within as Semere in his latest installment touched is more serious to national security than the threat that an Ethiopian influence could exact. We have seen a proud people and nation severely damaged because of this value systems.
            – On social sector: deterioration of family values, deterioration of interest in higher education, Imposing policies which have resulted in creating new and dubious social stratification, such as tegadalai/gabar, new economic forces and classes through their connection to power-centers, religious persecutions and their negative impacts, creating policies in which certain regions are seen as willing collaborators and pitting them against their equally oppressed regions and peoples…the list is long.”
            I accept woyane is not a treat for both (the lowlanders and highlanders) and I also accept the threats mentioned are real threats but not the only for instance the division among the highlanders and lowlanders even the division among the awraja within the highlanders etc are threats. Considering all the threats above HEGDEF is the number one enemy for both the highlanders and lowlanders at this time. so please reconsider your discussion and conclusion. Had the border conflict been number one threat Woyane would have been number one enemy

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Ali

            I’m afraid you missed my track of thought process. The quoted part should be read as pfdj strategies/policies with regard to those areas, not what I believe they are. I was jotting down manifestations of PFDJ value system. The conclusion is mine as you have correctly identified. And thank you for speaking as an Eritrean, you have improved a lot now for being more inclusive; your repeated of the “highland and lowland” is reassuring. We will all together make it happen.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIte-dlZPJw

  • ghezaehagos

    Hi Dearest Aman,

    All things considered, Sal’s suggestion of the camp is reasonable. …if silent majority flocks to deleyti fithi any camp really is really great. Weye flock zigebr terekibu…zeynsu entay delina….may be we were wrong in the first place. Ethiopia was the main problem indeed. ..Kab geigana nimehaR. Abey emo..It is just in our understanding the main problem is not Ethiopia. ..and we can be corrected by alternative reality. .

    Ghezae

    • selam

      That is nice to hear. But most people do not say like yours , lets hope we agree

  • Gebrekirstos

    Saay uses a parable (a scientist who cuts off the legs of a frog) to illustrate how Ethiopia has and is still crippling Eritrea. Let’s agree, for the sake of argument, that this was the case before independence. But is Ethiopia cutting off the legs of the frog (Eritrea) after independence? According to Saay, the answer is yes. It is also the position of many forum participants that Ethiopia is the reason for Eritrea’s current predicament. For some, the role of Ethiopia extends far into the past (historical), for others, it is the border issue, and yet for other’s, it is the influence on oppositions based in Ethiopia. The reasons people have may be different, but Ethiopia seems to pervade Eritrean psyche and politics more than anything else I can think off. The frequency with which Ethiopia is mentioned in Eritrean issues, websites, and discussions testifies to the real or perceived Ethiopian presence (influence) in Eritrea and Eritreans.

    The question is: if Ethiopia can cut off the legs of the frog (Eritrea) without much loss on its part, does this not imply that Eritrea’s existence and normal functioning is entirely dependent on the goodwill of Ethiopia? If Eritrea can not exist and function normally without the goodwill of Wthiopia, as Ethiopia does in the presence of hostility with Eritrea and lack of Eritrean goodwil, then the situation reveals some inherent flaw in the state of Eritrea. Maybe, despite the wishes and hopes, Eritrea does not have what it takes to be a nation?

    • selam

      Sir Ghebre

      The last sentence you concluded is not nice to the heroes and brave people. And i take it as insult to the Eritrean people in general. That kind of mentality is old and it should not come now to day light either.You have to differentiate the people who fought for independence and the current situation are quite different.

      • Gebrekirstos

        “You have to differentiate the people who fought for independence and the current situation are quite different.” Where do you find the claims for which this sentence is your responses? Do you read properly and try to understand before you respond?

        • selam

          Eritrea does not have what it takes to be a nation? that will be quite enough

    • Ted

      Gebre, i agree, it seems we are giving to much blame/ credit to Ethiopia for our misfortune. No. you are not. We are not ” shooting the messenger” who advocate for the well being of Eritreans by supporting opposition groups. We have “a house nigger situation” in horn of Africa. We think Ethiopia is a messenger with a gun, which abandoned its own neighbors interest to take care of her sugar daddies business in South Sudan, Somalia and Eritrea. We can not fight the invisible hand , the puppet master, but we can fight the house niggar for now. That is why Ethiopia comes up frequently. If it were not for its handlers , TPLF would have enough of its own problem to solve not alone influence us. So don’t take yourself seriously.

  • ghezaehagos

    HI Aman,

    I don’t know where you are driving at..but I will quote from my very FiRST post in Sal’s article..and see if it deviates much (sorry I’m quoting haphazardly)…”.. when these of us who ask us to disengage from Ethiopia do a better job of leading, there isn’t a single reason why we wouldn’t follow. The results will speak for themselves and you may not even need us. ….Point again is: The Eritrean opposition may have 99 problems; Ethiopia, ok, may be one of them. The 99th one. (Re-repeating Jay Z.)”
    On change from inside–…”…As for ‘change-will-come-from-inside’,fine and dandy. Let it come as long as it is really people-centered change, it perfectly goes well as part and parcel ‘by-all-legal-means’.”
    In my opinion, there is no side which wins this argument. It will stay foreseeable future. What we can do is given new facts in the ground, one can use it to bolster his side to the other…in the meantime, my proposed solution, “…let us continue to work in the areas of mutual interest…and respect where we differ..”
    Ghezae Hagos

    • AMAN

      Ghezae
      You still are missing the link because I see you are in a misstep.
      You have missed the link with the Eritrean people.
      You are saying or waiting somebody to start and do walk the steps
      for you before you come and join……and who knows probably to lead us !
      As for the “co-operation” you made with Ethiopia; You cannot make a cooperation
      while the country is technically at war with yours. So it is not called cooperation but
      “dictation” or “manipulation”. I also do not understand what points of difference you
      have with me or the rest countrymen. Would you list for readers please.
      But as for change comes from inside ; it is not a matter of choice. There is no any
      other option or choice to contemplate.
      But I was so dismayed that you rose above the sovereignity of the people and the
      country and not respecting it.

  • selam
  • Nitricc

    “LiuGong, SinoTruk and SFECO has already orders worth $500+ million on their books from Eritrea. SinoTruk announced it has delivered 164 trucks along with the buses from LiuGong”
    Bad news for Eshi-Goytay crowd.

    It funny how the camel keep marching while the the Ethiopia lovers Eritreans bending all they way down. It is good the GoE is importing those trucks and machineries but they could have done their home work on the SINO trucks. They are the worst, look what they are doing in Ethiopia? They are accounted to the majority of accident. the SINO trucks are terrorizing Ethiopia; I heard a joke goes like this.
    In Syria and Iraq; ISIS. In Afghanistan Al-qaida. In Nigeria Boko-Haram. In Somalia Al-Shebab and in Ethiopia SINO-Truck.
    so, my beef is why import those terrorist trucks?

  • saay7

    MerHab MerHababkum Wad Abuye Andom:

    You and Ghezae have this prose, this emotional prose, that would have been powerful…if it stayed in literature. But in politicis…

    (Imagine me saying this in a French accent)…so, how you say, you are wrong?:)

    1. I have a very good friend, he is a good friend of yours, who was stationed in Talata Asher in the mid 1970s during Egerger when you were…wait, were you even born then? Ok, back to our friend: he says, at the border crossing to Sudan, he had this sense that the entire country was being emptied out. And of course it wasn’t. You see, Sem, it is terrible when too-young-to-emigrate Eritreans leave the country (what we have now.) i was talking to this Agelglot veteran and he was telling me about his brother who was born in “salsay werar” (that is how OUR people refer to 2000), which would make him 14 now, which would make him 13 when immigrated a year ago, and he crossed the Sahara Desert (DESPITE THE REPEATED PLEASE OF HIS BROTHER) and is in Europe now, shopping for the best welfare state. This is TERRIBLE. Now let me tell you a worse case scenario: it is when our people load up everything they own, every modest possession they have, in their mules and donkeys and camels and leave the country. THAT, unfortunately, is what we in the opposition are offering them with all our reckless flirting with certifiably super-ambitious EPRDF army.

    2. There is no “complex relationship” between the people’s of Eritrea and Ethiopia. The people, like any people in the world, want to live in peace and have excellent neighborly relations. It is the rulers (and by that I mean Ethiopian rulers and the Westerners who wanted to fight them) who have used Eritrea as their proving grounds. Highland Eritrea and Eastern Escarpment (Medri Bahri) was the vassal state of Ethiopian kings, then became the vassal state of Turks and Egyptians. Egypts who wanted to fight Ethiopians kings fought them in Eritrean lands (we had nothing to do with their feuds), Abyssinian Warlords and Adal warlord (Ahmed Gragn) fought each other and extended it to Eritrea (we had nothing to do with their feuds), Menelik II and Italians fought and traded and made deals in Ucciali (we had nothing to do with that: we were conscripted army); Italians and Brits fought in World War II (we had nothing to do with that: we were conscripted army); Tigrayan warlords and Showa warlords fought and their shifta raided the Western lowlands (we had nothing to do with that fight); Yohannes IV and his religious fundamentalism resulted in exiling thousands of people to Eritrea (we had no say in that); Haile Selasse and the Americans made deals to establish military base in Eritrea in exchange for annexation (we had nothing to do with that: we were not even on the chess board.) And, so, finally, at long last, we stood up to the Ethiopian King, to Mengistu and finally to Weyane. There is nothing “complex” about this relationship: it is the history of a people who were not even pawns finally asserting themselves. I am open to hearing cross-border histories: are there any bad guys from North of Mereb in Ethiopian history?

    3. And just when we, at long last, found what we never had, a social identity, an Eritrean identity, something that gives us some shield from fragmentation, there are all sorts of factors straining the bonds–push from Isaias Afwerki’s reckless policies, from ethno-agitators, and from Ethiopia. Yes, Forto is slow…but Forto will not result in the horror stories that were detailed in the EECC report. You know, Semere A, for most of 1998-2000, I used to debate with Eritreans and Ethiopians and I used to say that the accusations we make against each other, including RAPE, are wildly exaggerated. And then I read the EECC report and learned that people who see each other as one people would never do that to each other.

    Have faith in us, Sem

    saay

    • ghezaehagos

      Dearest Sal,

      That was a well-put emotional prose too.

      Going into 24 years of ‘megedi mot’….

      Please allow me to say bzuh ayhizekan iye! Which means bzuh kihzeka iye..so be ready…!

      1. Kemaka ‘ko kndey keynikelo! But here is true story…In one city in Canada, I was told of this guy who WENT to Ethiopia aftermath the war; hence was seen as a pariah. I was sympathetic to him; but still remained curious. I got the chance to board in his cab once and I saw a beautiful map of Eritrea, hanging in his rear view mirror. I felt sad and relieved; mostly sad.

      Stranger :Where you come from

      Cab Driver: Eritrea

      Stranger: What?

      Cab Driver: Eritrea

      Stranger: Where is it?

      Cab Driver: Near Sudan, red sea..

      Stranger: ok…Ethiopia, then.

      Cab driver: No, I am ERITREAN.

      What I fear is unless we delineated in some sorta common understanding what the opposition in Ethiopia should and shouldn’t do, we run the risk of parroting another PFDJ propaganda. You perfectly know it took us (the opposition) a lot to present ourselves in the public for what we are: nationalist Eritreans who have nothing but love for our people, history and destiny, who happen to work in Ethiopia. It is unfinished business for sure; but the trend is promising: gone were the days the opposition was solely judged by the plane ticket; the food they ate and even shunned in their communities and families. Isaias being the enemy of everything Eritrean has even made some gullible souls believe some Eritrean regions and populace are actually ‘Agames’, not to be trusted, prone ‘to be purged’. That is one of the MANY reasons we need to be very careful about affiliating Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia as merely ‘these sleeping with the enemy’. Moreover, associating opposition with Ethiopia also reinforces this dangerous and reckless mischaracterization of Eritrean true nationalism as being totally against Ethiopia. We have got this sick version of nationalism which instead of meaning love of your own people, taking care of your own people, but being against Ethiopia and the Woyanes. The more unflattering terms one uses to describe Ethiopia and its current rulers, the more nationalist and patriotic Eritrean! Again we have to be careful not to fall into the PFDJ terrain of thought which is cancerous and root of all evils we find ourselves in.

      I have no doubt some of these participants in this forum are against the idea of an opposition against PFDJ itself; let alone an opposition in Ethiopia. Being the Isaias foot soldiers, they would for sure try to add their voices to anything that in their mind would weaken the opposition. I dismiss and detest them.

      2. Hence, whenever we talk about the opposition in Ethiopia, we need to be careful with the choice of our wording, presentation and characterization. They are not woyane-stooges; they are possibly the most patriotic ones for our generation. They may be wrong in some; weak and ineffective in others; hence let us help in whatever we can. Otherwise, the next best thing, let us show them by dedicating more to the alternative options for the struggle. After all, this struggle for change is not to be pushed for them; it is the people’s struggle and as part of the people, we have to show our dedication. Blaming on them is simply disingenuous, uninspired, lazy and unbecoming.

      3. I was going to mention this about your article. You said you were wrong about Arab Spring revolutions and you alluded Eritrea would be better without them…in short, megedi tieena amet kido! (should be the title). Ok now we are going into 24 years of ‘megedi mot’, you predicted ‘change will come from inside at the pace of the people..’ Well, if we are going to push this further, one way of looking at it: wasn’t that possibly the case of Libya and others? If any, the change from inside at the pace of the people in Libya was not that as promised as hailed. Point: is nothing is guaranteed. Truth is change may or may not come from inside; after all, Look at North Korea and Eritrea is depicted as more North Korea. We don’t know what the future holds…what we can is have ‘faith in us’ do the best NOW and advance the struggle in whatever way we can, with the best national interests at heart and in practice…If the people inside will rise or not, it will be up to them. Otherwise, people, waiting for the bus of change to come from inside ‘kitmaleana’ is a recipe for doing nothing; as we ARE NOT INSIDE…After all, dear Sal, ‘now we are going into 24 years of ‘megedi mot’….

      All the best,

      Ghezae

      • saay7

        Kbur Ghezae:

        Antum ayay, eyo geza beziHuni:) In another thread, you are asking me to list the do’s and don’ts; then I am being asked by Tafla to violate my decade-long moratorium and scan Nehanan Elamanan and identify the poison seeds because I have the burden of proof. All of them are worthy subjects and I will prioritize and tackle them. (If I am slow, please remind me.)

        But now, my former* favorite Ethiopian, Eyob Medhane, is back and I have to exercise my Hagherawi gbue and harass him:)

        saay

        * Thought Amde had replaced him but he is talking about the Eritrea Project like we are some experiment so I may have to go back to Eyob:)

      • Saleh Johar

        Ghezae,

        This took me by surprise: “‘change will come from inside at the pace of the people..’ Well, if we are going to push this further, one way of looking at it: wasn’t that possibly the case of Libya and others? If any, the change from inside at the pace of the people in Libya was not that as promised as hailed. Point: is nothing is guaranteed.

        Waw, what a brilliant point! I never saw it that way, and it didn’t occur to me to use that argument! This belongs to the list of “I wish I said that.” Excellent.
        I never saw it that way!

        • ghezaehagos

          Selam Saleh,
          Thank you! You can use it freely…:)
          If I may, the argument is the more dictators stay in power to completely destroy state institutions and nationalism of the people by their divide-and-rule, tyrannical policies, the more dangerous it gets for the people to execute democratic change. By the time they try, it could get ugly…moral: the lives of tyrants rule should be shortened as much as possible. There is no megedi teena when a tyrant’s rule is alive and kicking…
          Ghezae Hagos.

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Ghezae,

            I followed your conversation with Saay with a lot of interest and found it be very educational. I just want to give you some thumbs up here, because I think unlike many others you honestly discussed the challenges and shortcomings of partnering with (or seeking help from) Ethiopia. There are still many unanswered questions, but I think your efforts will win the heart and mind of many neutral people and even some who oppose Ethiopia’s involvement.

            Best wishes,

            FS.

          • ghezaehagos

            Selam Mizan and Fnote Selam
            Thank you for your kind words. I truly believe we Eritreans have it in us to win over the Isaias tyranny. In spite of our differences, we are peaceful, hard-working and beautiful people of a beautiful nation. Had it not been for the Monster that twisted and disfigured our national psyche and our character! (how much I hate him!) Anyways, there are many ways of engaging in the struggle. We need more dedication and more engagement. As for Ethiopia, we know it will stay; it is not the end; it is the strategic partner. If we can do better, let us do it…something that works will always find followers….
            All the best,
            Ghezae

          • Kokhob Selam

            you made my day. such is the way to discuss, to debate and see the best solution. I enjoy it really. KEMAKHA YEBZHAYO !

          • Ali

            thank you gezae
            I also hate Esayas more than anything

          • Nitricc

            I have no idea how help is defined but for me, help is when you start something and you need to need help to finishing of. the likes of Gezae, Aman and Semere are playing with the people’s emotion. they are sitting where ever they are leading the west life and do absolutely nothing yet, they need help. help for what? if they have a shred of credibility; they should leave from wherever they are, carry a gun then ask for HELP. that way we can understand what they are saying. sitting in Canada mongering war is absolute disgrace.

          • ghezaehagos

            Just once! For 10 years you cried dedbit; agame; badma. ..Always Ethiopia for you. .10 years or so ..! Why don’t you be a man and stand post in the trenches in Eritrea? After all ‘ Bhayli Ztewsde meriet bhayli times. .’ Said your lunatic boss. .go help him..and you said you are soldier..get back land from the government you hate most. ..They got you and your boss so well you fume daily at the innocents. .You want the poor to die for you….! Dream on. ..this is 2015. …abi a koynka dea Kab xerfi d’oeuvre keythaliff! …Ghezae

          • Nitricc

            the fastest way to lose your credibility is to lie. have i ever used the word Agame? if you want to insult your masters go ahead but not in my name. second i came to awate 2008. how is that over 10 years. 3rd, i am not the one asking the stupid Weyane to fight for my cause, you are. you want sit in Canada and collect what ever the charity is throwing you and you want some one to die for you. if you are a man why don’t you go and fight? why are bending to TPLF? there will be a day and you be ashamed and emberressed for what you are advocating. last time your TPLF masters attacked Eritrea; they raped 60 and 70 years old mothers. now you are calling for the something; just you know. what i don’t get is, why don’t you people just collect your money and be happy. that all your life going to be till the end. just chill and get fatter. as far as me, no worries, i got it.

          • ghezaehagos

            I said ten years or so. .So 2008 to 2015. ..Why don’t you just once go to Eritrea and stay in the Fronts. ..one way ticket. Plus one trip truck..abriyom eski..help your insane leader. ..fight your enemies for real. .Don’t worry about ten year..It will be so soon, you will continue to cry and weep daily while the weyanne will laugh at you…that’s if your lunatic psychopath you call leader will live that long. .

          • Nitricc

            Dude, follow the instruction. when did i ever used the word Agame? answer it. you can not just make an accusation and get away with it. show me where i used the degrading word about your masters by calling them Agame? show it. regarding the Weyane well, i don’t know what you are reading but we will see who is laughing at who. obviously; you people are twisted and have no shame. when you become more Canadian than the natives Canadians and argue to block old Eritreans to get asylum in to Canada; that says a lot who Gezae is. what you don’t know is there is tomorrow; you can think what ever you want but don’t forget there are people more determined and can move things forward. for now, be a fighter and make sure no Eritrean gets in to your country Canada. let’s us worry and deal with your masters; the Weyane and we shall see who laughs at the End. last word, i will fight every Eshi-Goytay and weyane zzz-kisser the bitter End!

          • Ted

            Nitricc, We know for sure Yes Goytay are not going to carry guns to oust PFDJ. Some one with balls has to do it for them. I am brain storming what to offer our southern neighbors for the blood and sweat they spill. Will they be Ok to name Godena Harnet to Godena Weyane or lease Assab port for a dollar for 100 yrs. We need to know their agreement in writing. They should’t count on the kindness of Weyane knowing they are the least kind people to Eritreans . I am worried Weyane might say winner takes it all ” Fu@ck Yes Goytay” . No kidding, It is a legitimate concern.

          • Saleh Johar

            Ted,
            Do you know that the PFDJ has signed agreements (about two dozen of them) with “Weyane”? If so, maybe we can simply reinstate the agreement? But I wouldn’t endorse it as a citizen because I haven’t (and you haven’t) seen it either. No one except the tyrant and a select few from his gang has. It is a boomerang 🙂

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear SGJ,

            I wish if we could get one of the signed agreement from the two dozen, to change the whole debate, and shift our political discourse. Please make it on your face.

          • Ted

            Saleh, agreements are ok as long as both parties are in equal footing. The deal go south after Weyane decapitated Eritrean defense force( god forbid). There is nothing UN can say to darling Ethiopia not alone “Eshi goytay” It is boomerang, alright. Empowering the people to be master of its destiny is the only way to go but first the opposition has to feel and respect the people and its limits and capabilities. For the last 15 years dirty laundry politics has been done to the max having zero effect on ordinary Eritrean other than adding more division and uncertainty.

          • Nitricc

            Ted. forget Weyane, those Eshi-Goytay are the worst and dangerous to our survival. they are ready to sell us out. what is amazing is that they are cowards. none of them wants to go out and do something. i just hope they don’t have children. what can they teach their children? are they going to say; son, go get help, never solve your own problem. your neighbors must solve your all problems. I tell you what the Eshi-goytay suck. i can’t stand them.

      • selam

        Dear Ghebre….

        I am one of the people still hate , hate and hate weyane and their cronies and that should not make me a crony of IA because i categorically reject IA and his system.

        Here is why i do not accept weyane are a good partners of the Eritrean people.

        1. They have their own agenda and they can not and will not support any opposition groups unless the opposition are a puppet
        2. They should help the eritrean people with out any precondition , i believe they will not do that , because what is in return for abay tigray if they help for a democratic Eritrea .
        3. They are ok with IA , because he is keeping Eritrea at baye, they know a vibrant Eritrea will not settle and see weyane drug ethnically modified government run Ethiopia for their own interest.
        4. i can mention more but i am ok with these 3

        Now
        while i accept most of your points , i find it hard to believe your story(Jock) about the taxi driver.

        It is not a jock it is not a trues story either. Eritreans and Ethiopians are very similar and you can pin point them where ever they are. What is surprising is the imaginable taxi driver you met. He has no eyes so how is he a driver ? How is he able to pass the driving test in canada. Unless he is blind in his mind or he is not Eritrean.
        He can surely know who is Eritrean and Ethiopian. May be you look like chines or some one from Solomon island who has no clue about Eritrea.
        Eritrean opposition have been in Ethiopia for 14 years and yet their product is nothing than zero. I can not believe we have so many opposition groups and failed to form any tangible force against IA. Can you ask yourself , why the majority are silent ? are they just stupid ? do not you think they read and listen to t most true and some times ugly lies from most media about IA.

        There were a meeting may be you have been there or not in Ethiopian camps so many times ,they asked the young Eritreans in the camp to wage a war on Isaias . what did they say ,the majority said to opposition do you have any news about that. Here is what they said

        1. We have and know what is war so we will not buy your idea we will continue to sudan
        2. We do not trust you ,
        3. Why will we kill our brothers with the help of Weyane.
        4. I can say more.

        The opposition has conferences after conferences in ethiopia , so many air tickets back and forth. Their result again null. For 10 years.

        I again say we Eritreans should consider another door to dissolve PFDJ.
        If you ever get any help from weyane and start shooting Eritreans in Great numbers at the borders , please ready for more IA years.

        • ghezaehagos

          Selam Selam,

          My name is Ghezae by the way. not Ghebre. Which is ok.

          Our opposition being a mixed of everything, there are groups of deleyti fithi who believe Ethiopia should be avoided and we have to put all our efforts into spurring ‘change from inside.’ That is good and what in my opinion should be done is work with dedication to this cause. Don’t continue delegitimizing those Eritreans who have opted ‘all means’ and still consider Ethiopia a base. Hence my humble suggestion for you is, if you reject IA, he is in Asmara; not in Addis Ababa. He is decimating the Eritrean people, our people. Logic dictates, we can work towards ‘dissolving his PFDJ’ by being part of the struggle, part of the ‘inside only’ group. In other words, to quote again, ‘. ..since and you, and other compatriots don’t want to work in Ethiopia, that is fine by us. There are hundreds of other countries you can work on, including the West. Simple. And in these other venues, we will work together…abti bhabar n’serhalu nisrah..abti zeynsemaemalu d’ma memegd’na!….as Barya says, ”…aytesaenen bayta mekalesi”
          I can give you our compatriots addresses and their contacts and you can work with them, if you will.
          On the story I mentioned, he is ELF fighter and that was I saw in his car. I would wonder how many true nationalists and patriots who held Eritrea in their hearts for decades have been castigated because they chose to fight tyranny with the limited choice they have been offered.
          Ghezae Hagos

          • selam

            Sorry for the name thing.

            Here is my question that is really nice if you can offer us your view.

            I want you to help me rise money for a company that will operate in the middle of the atlantic ocean to find hidden treasure from the 16th centure fleet of the great great spanish traders .The chance to find is unknown but here is the good news , if we find the ship , it is worth millions of dollars. I can tell you the money you invest will be used wisely and we will never ever pay , a bonus to our CEO. How much will you invest ?

          • Mizan

            Selam, I am willing to help you (as you wait for Ghezae to reply).

            But I have a few questions first:

            1. What is at risk? Any lives, human or otherwise?
            2. Is there any possibility that we may save lives there?
            3. Has anybody tried to recover the treasure from another angle?
            4. Can I promise the sharks there that I will be good to them and they may let me live and recover the treasure?

          • selam

            Dear Mizan

            You see , you have so many questions and i need to answer all to satisfy you to give me the money. Right ? Ok

            1.The risk is the company has to cover all the insurance of the workers by your money
            2.The risk is you are willing to get zero or broke
            3. The risk is my liability is too much heavier than the actual money you will contribute
            4. Yes so many tried and failed miserably , the human cost , and financial cost
            5. The risk is we are not sure we will give you your return as you wish to have, because other investors have more veto power on the share value you are buying.

            the list is more. But you see Ghezae reply , that annoy me deeply.
            when some one invest his money there must be some thing in return.

          • Ted

            Mizan “4. Can I promise the sharks(WEYANE) there that I will be good to them and they may let me live and recover the treasure?” You crack me up. Sharks are born killers, no one can reason with them.

          • Mizan

            Thanks Ted. That’s good line for the weekly humor digest guy, forgot his nickname.

          • ghezaehagos

            Hi Selam,
            Find your modern-day buccaneer ‘cos I ain’t one! All I know is we got to fight the tyranny in Eritrea by whatever we can, wherever we can. May God help us see the last day of the Monster of our endeared Eritrea and May our people enjoy the peace and democracy they so deserve!
            Ghezae

          • selam

            Dear Ghezae
            I understand your frastraction about the situation on the ground but you need to ask yourself what is the best way to do it.Where will you invest your money , time ? using any means available doe not work in politics and it does not work in investment , the word luck is always good when you have the best players and also great field. we need better field . You see you are only looking for the treasure thing. what will you say to the investor who is giving you money ? you need to give credible argument unless how can you ask for more money each year you get broke and ask chapter 11. That is not going to work. You need a better plan to get what you want.

          • ghezaehagos

            As I said repeatedly, would you go ahead find that better plan. ..we will follow. ..Ghezae

          • selam

            So you admit your plan is not going to work. Right ?
            I blame weyane for holding the Eritrean opposition for 15 years with out any tangible help.But who will i blame more ? My answer is the opposition who are in ethiopia and left with no remaining card to play. You want help from Weyane , I can say your probability is zero and if you get you must accept their request form and feel it in advance . I think if you accept my plan is why do not you convince the Eritrean people to see weyane as helpers not as enemies. That is my plan , if you can not convince the Eritrean people .
            The result is the more longevity of IA and his cronies and for people like you to have more conference and meeting the cycle continues on and on. On the way more Eritreans will run out of patience and try to flee from Ethiopia as the life is not better for them.

          • ghezaehagos

            Ala! You brought me uncontrolled smile. ..I would bet you’re simply to deflect attention from Isaias. Having answered your question don’t you answer mine….how do you plan to dissolve the pfdj you said you reject. ..Do you want to be part of Arbi Harnett or Mabel 2015 groups…waitinggg. ..Ghezae

          • AMAN

            My plan…. (though I should not be obligated to tell you ) is protest in the training camps… schools… and countrysides and cities of Eritrea… to rise uppppp.

          • selam

            You are running from replying the question yet you are accusing me for asking you a question.
            I was the first to ask you and you told me to look ….. that shows you are not willing to debate on your plan , so i gave you my plan. to convince the Eritrean people.

          • ghezaehagos

            ..Do you want to be part of Arbi Harnett or Mabel 2015 groups…?” I can give you the contact address…

          • selam

            Hulla , you really believe that , i do not know and i have no means to find them. What is this push on things i never asked , you want to run from my question no problem , it is not the first time.
            I urge you to read this book “Weapons of mass democracy” , i find it quite interesting.

          • selam

            Hulla , you really believe that , i do not know and i have no means to find them. What is this push on things i never asked , you want to run from my question no problem , it is not the first time.
            I urge you to read this book “Weapons of mass democracy” , i find it quite interesting.

          • Ali

            please be practical

          • Ali

            Thank you Gezae

          • Mizan

            Dear Ghezae,

            I have been reading everything you have been posting in the last couple days or so. You make a lot of sense to me and your approach is very noble. The answer you gave to Selam is impeccable. Yes indeed, don’t worry about people who fight from Ethiopia. They are not fighting the poor people of Eritrea, they are fighting PFDJ. But if you don’t like to fight that way, there are other proven ways of fighting. This message should go to Gheteb, SAAY, and the others who have become so blinded by weyane resentment. I will tell you this – weyane are not popular in Eritrea by any stretch of the imagination. Most Eritreans feel as resentful as selam, gheteb, etc. so this feeling is not equivalent to Eritrean nationalism. It is a mass misinformation.

            Now we have people who are fighting to not let PFDJ dissolve from any help from Ethiopia. So the focus has changed for these people. The priority now is to defeat the Ethiopian-lovers first and then who knows if they would still fight with PFDJ anyway. The hate they have for TPLF/Ethiopia is overtaking them and that is making PFDJ look like a lamb in their eyes.

            They are looking more and more ridiculous as you challenge them here Ghezae. Do these people seriously believe that we would be in a better place if there was no TPLF to speak of while PFDJ is in its place? PFDJ and IA are inherently against the interests of the Eritrean people so they would have found other excuses to oppress our people. They have not shown any form of decency since their inception, certainly not since independence.

            Ghezae, are these groups based in Ethiopia saying that Ethiopia is their model democracy and they want to be like Ethiopia? Or are the Ethiopians intentions to separate kunama and afar from Eritrea and eventually disintegrate Eritrea? Are these opposition groups based in Ethiopia, abysinnian fundamentalists? Do you see the paranoia in those questions and how extremely ridiculous they sound?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Mizan,

            Your argument is a stamp of assurance to your nickname. I am glad you hold the balance of the issue at hand. Besides, Ghezae’s argument is always sensible, measured, respectful, and understand what it takes to the struggle of our people within the intricate geopolitics of the horn. Your supporting argument is spot on.
            regards,

      • saay7

        Caro Avvocato Ghezae:

        We are having a two-pronged discussion in mupltiple threads…should we consolidate them and stay true to our fragmented opposition? Rimshot…

        Should we do Tiyit b Tiyit… ok.

        1. I think part of the differences in our approaches maybe that some of us see ourselves as opposition (the government had/has revolutionary legitimacy to govern but it pursues terrible policies and therefore should not govern) and some see themselves as resistance (the government never had, never has, never will have legitimacy to govern at all and nothing it ever did, is doing, will ever do is legitimate.) That’s why the most painful coicidence for you is to even remotely, accidentally agree with anything the government is doing.

        Some Eritrean opposition groups in Addis Abeba are there because they have no other place to be. They were in Sudan until Omar Al-Bashir made a security deal with Isaias Afwerki and made the place unlivable for them. There are Eritrean opposition groups who are in Yemen; when Yemen becomes unlivable, they will try to go somewhere else. So, I am very sympathetic to them.

        Sympathy does not immediately translate to: “please lead me.” This is the mistake we made with EPLF, remember: a combination of guilt and sympathy and gratitude got most Eritreans to surrender our citizenship duties and let them lead the country, and they ran it into a ditch. Now, it will be compounding the error for us to use the guilt-sympathy-gratitutde combination to let people who have taken the leadership mantle of the opposition, despite the fact that they have shown us, in 14 years, nothing but unmitigated paralysis.

        2. Please refer to my note above. I don’t understand what is “disingenuous, uninspired, lazy, and unbecoming” about conducting a performance evaluation of people who are speaking on our behalf (every single one of the Eritrean organization uses the word “Eritrea” as part of its name) and being honest with the appraisal. The Awate Team runs a website: it is perfectly rational and reasonable for you to assess awate website and point out is failings and, if and when you sense its failings are institutionalized and not likely to change, to act on that conclusion. It shouldn’t matter to you one bit whether AT works really, really hard, or their heart is in the right place. It applies to all aspects of life, but particularly politics. What I see in the Eritrean opposition is that we are terrible at firing people: we are good at “mdskal” (hmmm, I wonder if it is an Eritrean tradition) but we are not good at saying: thank you for your service to your country; I will see to it that history will record your contribution; I will raise funds to name a high school after you, maybe even a monument, but step aside. I have terminated the employment of many people in my life, INCLUDING VOLUNTEERS, and many of them are thankful that I put them out of their misery.

        3. This is just Ghezae The Writer having fun writing: (a) Saleh: you said this is megedi TiEna; (b) Saleh, you are wrong, this is not megedi TiEna; (c) Saleh, Hsebelu.

        Slow clap:)

        There are many combinations of change: from within only; from within and from without. But I don’t know one that was totally engineered from without. Even the CIA engineered coups always had somebody from within. Even if Arbegnaw Weyane wants to move in and use its military to bring about change, it will have to have somebody from within to “partner” with.

        If that is the case, the point I had been trying to make was for us WITHIN means somebody in the system or the peripheries of the system. That group of somebodies will need to feel that taking a risk for change is worth it because what is going to come has a higher probability (nothing is guaranteed as you said) than the one that is being asked to leave. And what I am telling you, as gently as I can, is that the face the opposition presents collectively is the face of failure. Worse than that, it is the face of a group that doesn’t even have a rational, attractive action plan for change. “eed n’eed Temirna: lbna antsi’h’na bHansab ente seriHna….”

        The “bus of change to come from inside kitmaleana” may be a recipe for doing nothing. But the bus of change to be steered from the outside (specially when those of us can’t even steer the exiled bus) is fanciful, approaching fantasy land.

        saay

      • tes

        Dear Gezae,

        I am afraid that your approach is again becoming so narrow. Did you mention about the cabin driver and you mentioned that he is an ELF veteran? And you considered this as a something negative? Have you asked where the he comes from? Is he from Senafe, Asmara, Keren, Karora, Girmaika, etc. Some ELF are indeed hardliners and Sudan is their reference. If you continue to west and North, the same. Those from South for sure their reference is Ethiopia. Don’t take my say here literally.

        Let me tell you what I have faced when I landed to France. People who asked and got accepted for their asylum have two different ID papers.

        On their identity: it is written like this:

        For some:

        Pays (Country): Ethiopie (Ethiopia), Nationalité: Érythréenne (Eritrean)

        Others: Pays: Érythrée, Nationalité: Érythréenne

        I asked them why this difference?

        Some of them didn’t pay attention for it.
        Some of them said, we noticed it but we took it as normal as we are even refugees who are asking for protection and identity was not a matter.

        Few debated but no one gave them attention

        And exteremly few rejected any paper mentioning Ethiopia and after lots of arguments got the right document, Érythrée, Érythréenne.

        I asked some why they didn’t refuse and took the right identity card? very strangely, they gave a lame reason by sayinf, “may be we were born before 1991, when Eritrea was not known as a country and hence the country was taken as Ethiopia.” and they were giving such reasons because the country is prefixed by “Lieu de Naissance = Birth Place”, which is equivalent to Country of Birth.

        Of course some of them could have been born in Ethiopia. But the thing is, most of them mentioned a village/town/city which is found in inside Eritrea.

        Of course, most Europeans know Ethiopia not Eritrea. And it becomes an easy to introduce about your country as a neighbour of Ethiopia or Sudan. I usually mention almost all neighbouring countries to locate the exact location of Eritrea.

        But at official document, no one can expect such confusion and put it in a ID card.

        ++Take not: I am talking about what happened in our department of France. I don’t have so far all the information. And we are discussing this issue to forward to the responsible office and make changes but it may take sometime.;

        Therefore, don’t try it to make it so narrow. Think beyond the cabin driver or at least ask him from which part of Ethiopia came.

        I am saying this because, those who rejected the word Ethiopia not to be written in their ID card are from Barka region of Eritrea.

        Else, I am following a good discussion but I see you with lots of short-comings.

        In the mean: I want to ask you one thing: Why all the opposition groups and especially the youth are using two flags, the green one and the current one? Can’t they reach into a conclusion for having one as their representative?

        tes

        • ghezaehagos

          Tes,

          The true story is about an ELF veteran who was considered a sellout and traitor for visiting Ethiopia. Indeed he was a true nationalist. ..I get to know him better later. ..Ghezae

          • Mizan

            Thank you ghezae. You said you heard of an eritrean who went to addis, came back to Canada and faced isolation from his compatriots. You happen to board on his cab with eritrean flag hanging on it. He tells you that he doesn’t want to be identified with Ethiopia for the life of him. Yet Selam and Tes, seemingly the young and aspiring ones couldn’t understand what you were trying to get at. Fellas the point is your independence will not be sold. The people you are seeing as sellouts are sometimes more nationalistic than you are. How sad is our state of affairs!!!

          • tes

            Dear Mizan,

            I am not that much naive and you can’t literally blackmail my counter example qs if I didn’t understand what I said. I have met also people who are ashamed to call themselves “Eritreans” and some asylum seekers even can’t tell their country of origin straight. Unless you want to ignore what I said I am not that much narrow minded citizen. I believe myself as a world citizen born in Eritrea.

            tes

          • tes

            Dear Gezae,

            You had a reason to bring such historical examples.I can’t take it simply. You are discussing the inter-country politics and how people perceive Ethiopia as a base for the opposition group. Your example needs much more bissection. I am not interjecting for a simple reason. Hence, it is better if we do not fall into such so narrow examples to make a deduction (from small event to general conlsuion approach – in science: Induction – Deduction Approach).

            Lets be serious here otherwise to make case by bringing a camouflaged example will not help for our cause.

            tes

  • አዲስ

    Dear Semere Andom,

    For Ethiopians like me, Can you please explain what you think is in it for us to intervene in Eritrean affairs in the scope you are hoping ? Please forget the tired point of “unstable Eritrea is bad for Ethiopia” rhetoric we heard before, because you know that we managed to live with unstable Somalia, though not the same and easy.
    What quantifiable benefit Ethiopia get by spilling our blood and resources in your affairs ? And are you prepared to give those benefits Ethiopia would be looking or is it just we give and you take as usual?

    Thanks.

    • Semere Andom

      Dear Addis:
      First on the giving, who gave who what. I am on record for the umpteenth time that we are thanks for the safety that you provided us and the softening of the tone after the abuses of 1998. Now do not get me wrong, I am all for imprisoning and arresting, deporting all the gun totting PFDJ bullies who were thinking to run Ethiopia and undercutting the government in the hard currency black market. I have no mercy for the hooliganism of PFDJ any where.
      So I give you credit for what u did after that both in tone and practice, if you are talking about that when you said giving
      But before that until 1991 you did not give, you took, yea you wanted to give us your culture, you gave us death by your “torserwit”, you gave us Weki-Dubba, you gave us Ona and She’eb, rings a bell?
      Do not get cocky about your survival with failed Somalia, do you want just to survive or also thrive, but with failed Eritrea survival is not sure, so that is one.
      The interest Ethio will get id not just as shallow as we do this and we get thsy. PMZ said to the effect of this when he was answering about Ethiopia allowing some students to study in some universities: a citizen who is uneducated and dependent will eventually be bad/butden for his country, bad for Ethiopia bad for the region.
      It is more nuanced than we give you X we get Y

      • አዲስ

        Dear Semere Andom,

        I will just ignore your first three paragraphs. It doesn’t have much relevance to my question. But I appreciate what you have acknowledged.
        I am not being cocky when I talk about Somalia. It’s as clear as a daylight that a stable neighbor is much better than the other alternative but we are managing with what we have. And some including me say apart from the democratic problem Ethiopia is facing, it’s thriving in the region. As you have said with failed Eritrea survival is not assured. Nothing is assured, but the experience with Somalia and the relative strength of current Ethiopia can indicate that it’s a high probability if not a certain one.
        That leaves the question which you haven’t answered. What is in it for Ethiopia to intervene militarily? Giving shelter and educational opportunities to refugees is expected and humanitarian, but far from the level of intervention you are hoping.
        It’s obviously more nuanced than give X and get Y as you mentioned. But for a country to send its men and women in harms way to another sovereign nation, the risks must be calculated and have a clear objective and benefit to its own interest. You can study these kinds of military intervention by other countries and see that they get something out of it. Ethiopia by itself is not UN or AU. My problem with yours and many Eritreans who are beating the same Ethiopian intervention drum is that I can clearly see you are not prepared to give or offer something in return. And as one Ethiopian, in my opinion, the stability of Eritrea is not just enough price.
        Again What is in it for us ? unless you can answer that question genuinely and prepared to live the consequence, asking for help from your side looks like you are asking too much from our side.

        Thanks

    • selam

      Dear Addis

      Please take my vote UP , as it is very rare to find a nice and honest person like you.
      Ethiopia is doing ok as far as EPRDF is concerned (from my observation at least the DAM and Education issue are priority for me and i love to see this go as fast as possible )
      Why will they spend hard earned or borrowed money of the Ethiopian people for no reason unless they have some thing in return ?

      The Eritrean opposition based in Ethiopia has never understood the word investment and return . They need a lesson please help us to lecture them,though they are Mr.Alpha.

  • Ted

    Semere, You exploited every Eritrea-Ethiopia conflict in favor TPLF. But before that, it is total lie and disrespectful when you say “The opposition by being there helped thousand of Eritreans from being deported and killed when TPLF was deporting them like there was no tomorrow”. We all know the reasons why MZ changes his tunes after he failed miserably to achieve his twisted goals in every arena. Now, for things above his grave , he is counting on you(Yes Goytays). Your stance on Eritrean affair is like a damaged good. It is here all to see your unwavering loyality for TPLF’s Ethiopia starting from the issues who started the war to who stalled the demarcation process and many things in between. You have to be naive or malicious person to sell the idea TPLF military involvement is good for Eritrea.
    .”viable alternative to PFDJ that can entice Ethiopia to irresistibly salivate to support them militarily without Ethiopia directly invading or perceived to be invading a sovereign nation that will be bad for Eritrea, bad for the region and bad for Ethiopia.”

    • Semere Andom

      Look Tedros, nice nick by the way;-)
      You can quote me all you want and twist the truth, but the final arbitrator what is good for them is the Eritrean people and they are telling you so, Ethiopia is safer and Eritrea is treacherous for the Eritrean human. They did not just verbalize it, they acted on it, the same way they acted on the issue of the Dergi regime brutality, they are proving it to you that at this moment TPLF is safer than PFDJ and they are flocking to the land of TPLF as it is safer. Rem your superlatives and comparatives, they are not saying the safest, they are saying safer than Eritrea. What do you have to say to them about that Tedros.
      And the opposition members saving life and deportation is fact, do you want evidences?
      And when something changes in Ethiopia and it becomes not safer for Eritreans, I will call it as I see it. Your demarcation fantasy, you lies and “eshy Goyatey” insults are retarded as the former has nothing to do with the unsafe place Eri has become and the latter is tired, old, un creative and unoriginal

      • Ted

        Semere, Thank you but no relevance to King Tewodrose. “And the opposition members saving life and deportation is fact, do you want evidences?” Just be safe for yourself brother coz some one has to pay for the expense they wasted for ‘ Eshi Goytay” in the last 15 yrs.

  • Fetima Dechasa

    Indeed Admas,

    Gone are the days that Ethiopia sacrifices anything, not one thing! It’s a brand new day.

  • Abinet

    Ted,
    Tplf milking 90 million people? Now that is better. You elevated us . Thank you . I knew you were wise .
    You said tplf is milking. Last time I checked pfdj was selling the young and the old as a spare part or as a whole.
    How is your commission? How many kidneys did you sell last month? I
    I better get milked than sold as a commodity. Got it? I think the the harvest has been good last couple of years you need to hire more help like tpdm.
    HELP WANTED!
    POSITIOS AVAILABLE
    Organ collector, transporter,
    We pay competitive salaries and higher commissions and paid vacations
    Apply in person . Bring current mewesawesi. Ask for the manager (Ted).

    • Ted

      Abinet, “Bring current mewesawesi”. you know your Tigrigna well for hardcore Gondere, Had you been in Eritrea for some kind of mission or learned it here in Awate university, Commendable job. I know the suffering of Eritreans gives you the thrill of life time and also true some Eritreans got commission from the trade- ask” yes Goytay” for their tax return. It is all there. While celebrating our misery, get acquainted with your origin, OLD ETHIOPIA – you still love to have,
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nEyc8PJZ3k

      • Nitricc

        Ted, Abinet is a former Drug officer who posted somewhere in Eritrea. i said officer, i don’t think he was foot soldier; i say somewhere like Col or simple Cadre. he loves Eritreans and he hates Shebia. the reason is, shaebia thought him a lesson he never forgets. right Abinet?

        • Abinet

          SIR , YES SiR. !!!!

      • Abinet

        Ted
        Welcome to Awate University. I don’t have to be from Tigray or Eritrea to know mewesawesi. I also know menqesaqesi. Now you proved beyond any doubt you are very new for this university.
        FYI, mewesawesi and menqesaqesi were a front page article some short months back on this site.
        I learned a lot from this site . Before you arrived we had exceptionally talented debaters that we all miss . You have missed sooooooo much . Tooooo bad.
        BTW, I think I’m the first one to use the term ” awate university ” I don’t remember anyone use it before me.
        The moderator can correct me on this.

        • Ted

          Abinet, “missed sooooooo much” I will check the the archive. You may have learned a great deal here but Awate University failed you miserably in remedying your bigotry. I promise, i will not give up on you like others who left. Did you enjoy the music?

          • Abinet

            Ted
            Thanks for the music . Beautiful as always. Very patriotic. Don’t give up on me . Abesha tesfa ayqorTm
            Ted, did you grow up in addis or lived there for a long time? I can tell you are yeArada lij.
            Neqe bilenal.

          • Ted

            Abinet, Can you hook me up with the TPLF dude living in my parents house in qera, my school credentials were there. I am glad you like it except it made my old fox here a little jumpy( Ebab yaye beliT YidenegiTal.)

          • Abinet

            Ted
            I knew you were from Addis .
            Yetim teweled adisaba edeg.
            Did you go to Shimelis Hsbte?
            I’m really sorry about your parent’s home. It means a lot . Almost all eritreans I know have got their properties back.
            That song was good. But, no one does it like Yirga Dubale.
            ” ene ewedewalehu gondereneten
            Deginet, jegninet yastemaregnin.”( Marta Ashagari)

          • Ted

            Abinet, No, why would i with so much Ethiopian MILK at home, ” Yenejera gagariachen lijoch” went to Shimelis Habte.

            Marta Ashagere, i like her coarse voice. How did you become friends with Eritreans with your- Ere Goraw, Zeraf- attitude, Kangit belay Godegna yizehal. Check out your Gondere singer, he is awesome- NEW Mandingo Afework 2015(
            እባክሽ ታረቂኝ ተይ አታስጨኚቂኝ)

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abye,

            Did I hear a conversation about Shimelis Habte? Did you go to Shimeles Habte? It seems the world got a little smaller between you and I… 🙂

          • Abinet

            Eyobe
            I went to Bole High school. I used to hangout around popolare. Later on I used to take the family car to Orbis for service. Plus, my girlfriend used to work around there .
            You remember Temama Foq?
            Eyobe , you know how I figured out that Ted is from addis ? It took me only 2 exchanges.
            YeAddis lij keruq yastawqal.
            Next time I’ll tell you where you live. Trust me.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abiye,

            I knew there is something special about you. I can’t say much here, but you and I need to talk.. 🙂 I actually grew up around Temamaw foq… Yup..you will know EXACTLY where I lived…Amazing!!

          • Saleh Johar

            Abinet, let me kill your bragging opportunity. I know where Eyob lived, just close to the guy who smokes something they call ganja, in Shashemene 🙂

          • Abi

            Ato Saleh
            No no no you can’t. I’m still bragging. You know why? I’m the best student at this U. I read all articles and most comments and I dont forget who said what . I read b/ n lines.
            Actually, Eyobe was at shashemene. I remember the story of the ganja where he got in trouble with his mom. You see I remember.
            Let me tell you one more thing, b/n me and you. I bet you Eyobe currently lives or used to live around DC area. How do I know this? I read between lines and connect the dots.
            Let me also guess one thing about you . When you went to addis last time , you have been to SAAY cake or Kebericho restaurant on Bole road. I don’t have enough dots on you .
            Tell me I’m I far off?

          • Saleh Johar

            Abinet, you are invoking in me funny and nostalgic memories. Saay cake bet is old history, I used to take my kids there in the early nineties, never been there after that. Keberecho? I last had dinner there probably in 1994, the same with Bole Mini and that Bole cottage hotel or something like that. I lived briefly in Old Airport area, the last time I saw it the place was crowded with a million blue buses –under the bridge that was built on the house I used to rent. Back then they knew the area by a tree (cant remember the type) that stood near a small cake shop. My favorite places were the cafes on the way up from Ghion, it was a lively street (still is). I could sit there and churn real stories, of real people by the tens of pages–I consider that place a writers’ haven, a sort of an African Bohemia. Pretentious gentlemen who obviously were not, sleek delalas who think everyone wants a house to rent or a car to buy. Girls who look at you as if you are their lost husband. Shoeshine boys who want to shine you shoes even if you were barefeet. Elders and retirees waving Chra chasing flies that were not there (most of the time). The noise. The eshi getaye of the lovable and respectful garsons. The “Weyane ekoooooo…” type of intern politicians and opposition wannabes. Eritreans who walked as if they just popped up from the ground…. and noisy minibuses. Oh, and the always squinting soldiers, even when there was no sunshine, some wearing helmets three sizes bigger. At night, that street was even more colorful, more lively, and more inspiring, starting with the dance club that every Addis Ababans thought it was the place to take your visitors from abroad, regardless of their taste, like me. Don’t get me started with that–I can write a tome about these days. The last time I visited Addis a few years ago, I felt sorry because I couldn’t find enough sense of humor–Addis Ababa has become stiff, serious, greedy and humorless—compared with the nineties. Now look for the dots.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abye…

            You’re pretty much got it. I was born and raised until I was 13 in Shashemene, then Adu Genet. Guess where? Around Shoa dabo area.. Populare…and that’s where a lot of memories you and I start to share…. 🙂

          • Abi

            Eyobe
            Shoa dabo ? Ye Aboy Zemuyn dabo yalbela keyet yigegnal? There was one very close to my elementary school. Lunch was banana sandwich with coca. Guess what? Shoa dabo followed me to AAU.
            Yes , we share a lot of memories specially at AAU. Any memories at ” beg tera ?”
            Or the kissing pool?
            Have you been around building 406 the girls dormitory?
            “Aynuka ” yizo yamelalsegn neber.
            Btw, tel me you live around DC . I need it for bragging right.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            Brag away…you are right.. 🙂

        • Abinet

          Mr Miderator
          Tes might used the term many times . My argument is I used it first . I used it before Tes arrived. Actually, I said there will be awate university on godana harinet with branches all over eritrea. Ato Ssleh replied to me by saying ” yemignot feres liguwamun betiso yigalbal ”
          Don’t make me bring the patent

      • selam

        Dear
        If I ever get the chance i will travel to Gonder with my Ethiopian friend and see Ghonder. I have my mother picture with me, she took in on one of the building in this song.
        By the way nice dance forget about the map.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Ya AbuNooH
    You made me eat a heavily satiated shaHan Fool early on, I have spent the day in a state of slumber.
    It’s beautifully written considering the short time it took you, perhaps ኣፈርክቡ፡መልእኽቲ ናይ ሬድዮ…in order to neutralize the lethal effects and shockwaves “I was wrong” sent across ኣህጉርና። So, ” I was wrong” say; “I was right” Sem A; ” ኣሰይ ሽኮረይ መዓረይ ሰመረይ” Gual Adem; “What’s new in there? ” Gen.Nit. ” What time is it/” WedisaleH.
    Honestly You made a pitch, perhaps an emotional one; my gut tells me Eritreans have already made their decisions on this matter.
    Personally, Ethiopia or Ethiopian people are not the problem; it’s the policy of the current government which see weakening Eritrea as a means of solidifying its legitimacy. I’m not concerned whether someone is based in Ethiopia. What concerns me is the nature and the scope of the relation. I just stopped by to say well done, although I have not and I don’t support the current state of engagement with the Ethiopian government.
    If you may volunteer
    1. How many armed groups are active in Ethiopia? Their political platform?
    2. Which ones do you want Ethiopia to support?
    3. Hasn’t Ethiopia been supporting these groups for more than 15 years? Some of the for 30 years (under TPLF).
    4. So, why so much calls for Ethiopia? (To elaborate this: Poor Ethiopia has done more than its share by giving them space, logistics, arms, and occasionally (or is it frequently?) intervening to quash frictions, I mean what else do you guys want from Ethiopia that I dearly love?
    5.In this particular matter, my hero is the great Abi. He comes once awhile with stern warning saying that Ethiopia is not going to bleed for some groups who could not get their acts together. And that should be the reality. Why should you waste calling Ethiopia to undertake an action that it will take without you pleading it if it serves its interest?

    • Nitricc

      Mahmuday let me disappoint you; I think i am starting to understand why and how Issaias does is starting to make sense. deep inside i have always disappointed and questioned some the moves the man makes; questioned no more. I say let me disappointed you because i am in favor of PIA to staying put. he is the best chance for my generation to live in peace and serenity. The good thing is, all the Eshi-Goytay are identified. yes, identified. there will be a day when we claim our respective responsibility and manage our country’s business and it is good to know who is who. what ever happen to be strong enough to solve your own problems? what ever happen to take responsibility for your own actions? some day i will be some one; and over my dead body before the Eshi-goytay rule my country. we have choices to make and the likes of Semere, Gezae and Aman have made their choices but that they can only represent themselves. since they will never leave their ” heavenly life” in the west; we have our choices too, Eritrea is and Eritrea and Eritreans are strong enough to solve our own issues.

    • Saleh Johar

      Mahmuday, please don’t corner my friend Semere. There are over forty groups. Except for a dozen entities or so, the rest you wouldn’t trust to manage an elementary school football team in the smallest Eritrean village. The problem is, some Ethiopian authorities lose their basic math skills (could be arithmetic) when it comes to evaluating them. And that, my friend, has been my problem with the seriousness and effectiveness of the opposition’s relations with Ethiopia. I leave the Badme and sovereignty stuff for you 🙂 I am done counting the wasted lives of the poor, because I said enough about the disrupted lives of the helpless when it mattered. At this moment, when I see Eritrean and Ethiopian Zeraf-in-English, I just say deja vu, and light a cigarette 🙂

      • Mahmud Saleh

        AbusalaH
        Oh, you spoiled my plan AbusalaH; Semere was probably in the net googling, unfortunately most of them could not be googled; as Selam explained, what did she say, meetings of bolding men and something about their teeth!?
        The point is: Gual Adem and Co. are taxing the Ethiopians more than they could handle.
        What do they want them to do? This is an attempt to come to them from within their established argument that Ethiopia should do this or that. My challenge is: OK, let’s say Gezae Hagos argument is plausible, then, the next question would be what else do Gual Adem and Co. demand from Etiopiachen? They say ” Well, we just want them to support, we actually don’t want them to accompany us all along,” some say “Surgical cuts or whatever” others spend years in dolling out wayanay democracy…I mean it’s majnanah. Ethiopians are not stupid, there will come a day when they come to their senses when the possibility of dealing with Issayas appears less costly to them.
        Now, out of the forty and plus, they must have favorite once. Unfortunately those Ethio-favorites will definitely not be Eritrean favs, not because Eritrean and Ethiopian interests are mutually exclusive but because of the deadly unfinished business between the two countries. So, what I am saying is simple: Ethiopia has done all it could including hosting, feeding, arming…what else is needed from it?. As long as individuals whose motto is “In Ethiopia we trust” are calling the shots, Eritreans will remain sheltering “In the devil we know we trust.”

        • Ted

          Mahamud, “In the devil we know we trust.” unfortunately, that is Eritrean politics comes in to these days. Anyway you slice it “yes Goytay” are as bad as the devil itself.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Mahmud and AbuSelah:
          Saleh Thanks.
          Mahmud;
          I was not going to google it because when I was your age I used to be Eritrean splinter group junkie so I would have coaxed my brain to come up with their names, or I could have consulted Awate’s recent and past flowchart:-)
          But you are asking the detail, the mechanics of which group should Ethiopia support, while in my several comments and in this piece I hammered, united under one banner, relinquishing their own political agenda, an opposition that got its acts together were a few of my phrases that some twisted to be “invasion.”
          On the dysfunction of the opposition or what Saleh calls wasted lives that is different story. Imagine one thing for me, please do not tell me you are pragmatic person, just do a fav for your bad friend: the same way you were imagining an independent Eritrea in your teens when Kelashine was your ornament and the Sahel dust was your sun screen and moisturizing cream, just as you did then about the free Eritrea, imagine, if by miracle tomorrow all the dozen groups unite under one and rejuvenate their armed forces recruit 50k of the young refuges and Ethiopia through its consultant Aboy Sebhat says we will be behind this new group and will give them the military support to remove PFDJ, we will give them tanks, planes, would you support that? Or it this haram for the opposition to be in Ethiopia where more then 600k Eritreans call this country that has and still has complicated relationship with us? All the Eritreans who Gen. Nit calls derisively Dedebitwian never said Ethiopia should invade Eritrea, no one. I, Sem Andom, the good friend of Mahmuday and bad friend of Wedi Saleh have been called half Dedebit for supporting the notion of Ethio support under the configuration stated above, but one thing saved me from being dubbed full fledeged Dedebitwa and according to my friend it was my passion for and passable knowledge of for Tigrayit:)

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Teg/Semere wed Aondom
            More questions to come; let’s start with:
            1. In your opinion, what’s hindering the formation of such a united front?
            2. What’s Ethiopia blamed for?
            a/ Ethiopia should have forced such a united front
            b/Ethiopia disintegrates or disintegrated such a united front
            c/Ethiopia should not discriminate; it should give whichever comes her way a couple of tanks (according to SGJ, ~40X2=80 tanks, each two QuchHirmu (snipers) that are specifically calibrated to look for a tall guy that wears sandals…I mean it’s a messy business semere, And then you have the problem of defining operational sectors: for instance, if there are a dozen of armed groups, who has the right to say “This is my zone,”?
            3. What is the purpose of pushing for such unilaterally carried-out skirmishes if this groups don’t have a consensus on what they want to do the day after PFDJ? This is important Semere, armed action is a means of delivering a political program. If you don’t agree on minimally binding political program, you won’t have a unified or a joint military command, if you don’t have a unified command:
            a/ remember 1981 (ELF/EPLF)
            b/remember early 1990s Kabul war (after different Mujahidin factions defeated Soviet-backed Afgan government crumbled, you know what happened to Afganistan, they destroyed the country in a civil war each vying it’s the decider.)
            The good news is:
            Both of us agree that a united front is needed. For that to happen responsible people should look inward and criticize what’s needed to be criticized; that would mean gaining popular mandate, that would mean less dependence on Ethiopia and more dependence on your people, that would mean no problem to me. Such a front would have enough bargaining power; it would say “thank you” to genuine support from Ethiopia, and “No” to dubious wrangling, because its strength springs from its people not Ethiopia. Actually, a strong popular front would lay the foundation of future relations between the two peoples, not in a master-and-servant basis, but on a two-mature partners engagement. In such a situation, Eritrean and Ethiopian interests would not be mutually exclusive, Gual Adem would not be bombarding us with “Ethiopia wey mot”, you would tell her “Please, why? Don’t you see us gaining momentum? We can do it” So, to me, it’s not where that force makes its stepping ground, but whether it stands independent, firmly supported by its people. Such a front would tip the balance of force against PFDJ in a short time; it would be less costly. Because it would give domestic forces including members of EDF would get hope, their anxiety that their country could fragment would abate. And that would be the test for Ethiopian support. If its support endures a robust Eritrean united force, that means, it’s “We love Eritreans more than their government want them to belive” would be true; people like would support it…sorry, I am tired, I have no Idea if what I say makes sense (will read it tomorrow).
            The second good news is: You are safe, you can’t be the “D” word; I see you a proud man of his history; your take on ghedli is not that unreasonable. I do have my bitterness too, but what I encourage you to do is that you should give it a comprehensive review. It’s a journey of generations, one organization or one man don’t fill the holes.
            Oh, yes, your eloquence in Tigrayet will definitely save you some of Saay’s wrath. Remember, SGJ told me I don’t belong to Habesha; well, then, culturally, you are more unHabeshawi than me. (cheers, I am tired of hardball politicking).

  • AMAN

    WHO IS THE TRUE TEGADALAY
    FOR HIS PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ?!
    WHY……?!
    The people who were indecisive and who were hanging on two
    trees without compatible but self cancelling/annihilating ideas
    were and still are the probles of the opposition struggle.
    These people are those who say
    ” both violent and non-violent methods of struggle ” which is a
    total fallacy and unacceptblae idea which is only used as a facade
    to cover ones non-commitment to the struggle but only to protect
    one’s turf by swinging in to both sides avoiding commitment and
    not being bind by the rules and dicipline the struggle requires.
    It was only a carefull use of playing cards that is only meant if I
    loose on this one I will recover it on the other card without giving
    its due or commitment to the struggle going on.
    This self serving opportunist stand of non-commital and non-abiding was the
    primary fallacy of the opposition strategy and its strategic thinking and the primary
    obstacle to the struggle and that disrespects and dismisses the firm commitment
    and sacrifice of those who made the bitter and hard decision of accepting only one
    choice and saw no other alternative ( those only Non-violent struggle ).
    This is the hardest sacrifice to be taken and show of commitment to accept only
    and only one choice with no doubt and swinging non-commitally.
    Yeh ! By saying so and identifying themselves they have accepted all the villifications
    and smear for the sake of their people and salvation of their country. This is the sacrifice
    the struggle asked and needed !
    Otherwise, why should I or another person tolerate or accept villification by another man like
    him or less than him ! It is only a sacrifice the someone need to pay for his country and people.
    But if someone stays out of what the struggle asks ( in this case it was only political no armed)
    by using any pretext or excuses not to committ he/she cannot be regarded or considered as one
    who gave all of himself / herself to the cause and the struggle.
    If Others are villified and called weak or any other names (gender,sex, masculinity,feminity) he/she
    (the true patriot) should also accept that gracefully for the sake of his people and country like the
    others who are paying the sacrifice without distancing him/herself for any excuse.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Semere,

    With this article, you didn’t leave space to those PFDJistas and to those who misunderstand us the answer to what support means.

    “ኣብ ኩናት ዘይወዓለ በሊሕ” still they will tell us we can do it without any support of others and put sensitive words like “we have heroes. We have everything to fight PFDJ” as if you are saying we can’t fight and Ethiopia should come with tanks and airplanes to destroy PFDJ.

    Hate is the worst enemy of the owner, the hate injected against Ethiopians by PFDJ is hurting our people. We should work hard to dismiss hate and replace it by love and that in itself is the best killer of the devil.

    Thank you Semere .

  • Haile WM

    Eritrea is lucky to have PIA ? really ? having a different opinion is worth lifetime exile ? as much as i differ in opinion with semere wishing him life time exile is quite merciless. I hope you won’t experience a different opinion with your PIA (for me he will allays remain wedi berad) then you would experience lifetime experience. It’s amazing to see the camp of the fearless and dumb is getting wide by the day. despicable

    • ghezaehagos

      Haile,

      That is their sense of justice. .the Isaias foot soldiers. ..if in Eritrea, they would condemn people like Sem to Erairo. ..no surprise there. ..

  • saay7

    Selamat Ted:

    I think you are confusing “I Am Wrong” by saay with “I am Right” by Semere Andom:) Because I didn’t say the words you have attributed to me.

    All the best
    SAAY

    • Ted

      Saay7, I mean Semere. Thanks god you are not him. Apology.

  • Rockstar718

    I don’t know what’s worse: the defeatism or the naivety.

    How said is our situation that we are now shamelessly and openly debating Ethiopian intervention as if our heroes didn’t die (within this current generation) to release us from their brutality and deliver us the nation we all profess to love and fight for. The same Ethiopia that refuses to leave sovereign Eritrean territory, among other unspeakable and very current offenses. Ethiopia may or may not have noble intentions (laughable) but that should not be our concern. As diaspora Eritreans we should focus on unity and fostering a cohesive environment for dialogue, value-added collaboration and demonstrating democratic principles among the so-called opposition groups. And most importantly, we should be prepared to assist and support any change or resistance from inside the country. We should rally around these efforts, however insignificant if only to provide moral support as confirmation of our solidarity.

    Like it or not, those of you advocating for your very recent oppressor & current occupier to save you from your own people need to remember that the strength and determination of the Eritrean people will emerge as the victor, regardless of how regime change is implemented. Not reckless or treacherous shortcuts. You can either promote peace or carnage, the choice is yours.

  • AMAN

    YES ! YES ! YES !
    YES AWATES !!
    You ‘ve got it right !!!!!!!!!!!!
    ============= I WAS RIGHT !! ==============

  • Nitricc

    Ted, do you know what they are saying indirectly; they are conforming what once T-Kifle eluded. T-Kifle says Eritreans think their life is “precious” and “unique” so, the what Eshi-Goytay are saying since the Eritrean life is precious let the cheap and worthless Ethiopian live be paid for the benefit of Eritreans. Why I don’t get is why are they insulting the Ethiopians? Not to mention its immorality. How do you demand someone to die for you while you are collecting welfare to fatten your behind and growing sideways?

    • Abinet

      It is really an insult to outsource your fight to Cheaper, less precious beings south of the border. That is exactly the way I see it .

    • Ted

      Nitricc, these people are poisonous to themselves. I don’t know who but they say ” Ethiopia is where Eritrean opposition go to die.”

  • ghezaehagos

    Dear Semere,
    There is not a single major incident in our history when the neighbor to the South hadn’t had its say. Since 1890. Menlik’s traty with Italians; 1941-1952, era,; negatively 1962, federation; positively armed struggle cooperation and 1991/1993 referendum. We can’t choose your neighbors; you can only know how to live with them.
    In my years of experience in the opposition, the most crucial problem we have been facing is not Ethiopia. It’s our inability to solve mistrust and to dedicate wholeheartedly to find a commonly agreed way out as equal stakeholders of the nation. We are woefully paranoid about each other, about the intentions of each other.
    Ethiopia can be seen in many ways. At least let us agree though we may (may not be) on the same page about the future Eritrea; we can agree we can work together in many areas: diplomatic isolation of PFDJ, continued international sanction against Isaias regime; Continued protection of refugees, resettlement, education and medical care of Eritrean refugees; continued campaigns against economic pillars of Eritrea; mining companies…The few achievements against PFDJ regime are directly or indirectly were credited to Ethiopia’s involvement.
    Saay asked us to open our eyes. If you do, you see Sudan, a hostile terrain for many Eritrean refugees , (sort of backyard of PFDJ). Djibouti, far post and almost insignificant. Incidentally, our current biggest project COIE have allowed to visit Ethiopia and Djibouti…and Sudan denied them. Point is; we need to identify the areas of mutual interest and let us expertly work on them…
    How can we expect to ignore a nation that has huge say in our history for more than a century? it is impossible; what we can do is know our limits and …also our potential..
    Ghezae Hagos

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Semere,

    You said “I am right”. Yes indeed you are right. You have a clear mind on what has gone wrong and you have also a clear mind on what should be done.

  • T..T.

    From the diplomatic releases of 2002, some sources indicated that Isyas was least concerned about Badumma and the Eritrean people. If he were he would have resigned to speed up normalization of relationships with all the neighboring countries and the world including the UN.

    Those days he defied the world because he was sure the hairy legs on boots and the pens of those with hairy brains would not standby if he was dragged out of his throne by force by the Eritrean people with the help of the world. Those with hairy brains even after the war ended they continued to be the most notorious propagandists of the naked king, Isayas, while those with hairy legs on boots gave up on him.

    And, when Isayas narrowly escaped the heroic acts of the Forto’s pro-people and pro-constitution forces, the pens of those with hairy brains were frozen and their inks appeared dried up forever. But to the dismay of the Eritrean youth and the people, inside and outside, the pens were hired back with the stole monies that are banked overseas.

    To the luck of mother Eritrea, those engaged in the notorious propaganda, who blind admirers of the criminal, are not more than five fingers on one hand and are proving that the level of their political enlightenment remained unchanged despite the storm of chaos, poverty, hunger, and the worst crimes inflicted upon the Eritrean people. No wonder, it seems that the more the neighboring countries are over-pressurized by the victims of Isayas the more they will tempted to find solution to the problem for after the affect it would lead only to civil war like it did in Somalia – wars among the mini-lords who would do the impossible to protect their interests.

    During and after the outbreak of the border war, many countries tried to mediate between the two countries, Eritrea and Ethiopia. After exhausting all means, the mediators found it difficult to identify the two disputants to be brought to terms and reconciled. They were not Eritreans, nor Ethiopians, nor Meles but only one disputant (Isayas), who made the reconciliation process difficult and will remain to be impossible so long he does not reconcile with himself first. The naked king is a loner and more lonely when piping money into his hidden treasure in accounts with foreign banks.

  • Nitricc

    I think we are influenced by the countries we live in. In the USA, it is shame to get help from the government. People use as insulting if some one gets welfare. In a way to ask for help is a sign of failure and degrading. Reading what the half dedebit posted; he is proud to ask for help. He is not even asking material and logistics help; he is asking in blood. I guess since he lives in a welfare state he got used to dependence and getting things for free; he sees no problem asking not a big deal. One thing is for sure though his weakness and character is on display. The good thing is you find a prefect home, Canada.
    Since bagging and asking is your expiries; why not ask the same help from Sudan?
    Or is this post meant to appease your sister?

    • Semere Andom

      Dear Gen.Nit;
      Out of compassion that Canada is know for let me help you with facts as I hate to see your ignorance once in remission then suddenly, like a malignant tumour reappearing. I hope you will appreciate it
      In USA it is not shame to get help from the government, it is shame to be dependent in the government, the food stamps that you grew up with was mean to help people when they are down instead of becoming homeless, the issue is the balance of dependence and using the system when you fall in hard times, the schools are all subsidized. Even the so called private schools like Harvard are subsidized by endowments. So the symbiotic help from Ethiopia is like those food stamps when we have fallen in hard times after the abusive and alcoholic head of the house-hold kicked us to the streets and sold us to the river. If we make that dependency, I agree with you.
      Help is needed for different ends, the USA asked the help of the coalition of willing to sort of legitimize its attack on Iraq.
      Even if changes comes from “inside”, it will have to get some help from somewhere, there is no such thing us “pure” inside change without a dash of help. But the heavy lifting, the bulk of the job, the designing and the goal should be an Eritrean owned. How do you that is to use your brains and I believe the Eritreans in Addis have brains
      And you have no clue about Canada, Canada is not a welfare state, it is a vibrant country that will own this century with the right government in place, it is were Insulin has been discovered, to just to give you a hint, I am writing this comment from the same building where Dr. Banting formulated insulin, a compound that is saving millions of lives.

      Dear Gen. Nit, Canada is way beyond your league so research it and know it because your referring to is as a third world is making like the Americans who ask you if you know someone called Lucy she is is from Canada when they find out that you are visiting from Canada

      • Nitricc

        This is the second time you are exposing your stupidity. The other day you said you were debating about Eritrea when you were young while I was smoking weed. I said nothing because that was stupid. For one, you want us to give you credit for talking about Eritrea while others were in action giving it all. All you have done is, you tacked your tail between your legs and flee like a little girl. If it is not this is embarrassing; you wanted us to give you a credit. Just be happy what bread crumbs are the Inferior Canadians are throwing at you. you have no right nor the moral ground to talk about Eritrea. there was a time you could have done something; well you scream like a little beach left. So, now is our turn to do something for this country and we will do it our way. Sit back and enjoy the welfare. I understand it is like a drug; you are addicted. You don’t ask for help; you make it happen, here is a foreign concept for you.
        And today; you are telling me I grow up on welfare. Really? Why do you have to take away what my parents did for me? I can assure you they don’t live in Canada and they are not losers like Semere Andom. I bet you in anything; you never accomplished anything own your own. I can see, it you don’t have it! Now you are welling your mother to be raped by your masters? Is that right Semere? Loser!
        What in the world do I want research Canada? And for your info, only losers use welfare; just you know.

        • Semere Andom

          Nititricc,
          I figured you grew up with food stamps by reverse engineering your brain that is devoid of the essential nutrients , hence the paucity of the important cells of thought, that is how I know. Your self loathing is evident and until you start loving your self again, please stop talking.
          I have offered you the green olive branch by sending the dove several times, you salughter the dove and burned he branch so until you are ready for civility, stop commenting, it is good for our forum members

          • Abel

            I don’t think you should pay attention nor bother to respond to this kid, probably had a rough upbringing.

      • Ted

        Semere, ” So the symbiotic help from Ethiopia is like those food stamps when we have fallen in hard times” there is no symbiotic relationship between you and TPLF. You are the slave , TPLF is the handler.

  • Haile WM

    dear Semere

    there are different reasons on why i disagree on the idea of Ethiopian involvement in Eritreans issues let alone their direct intervention in a sovereign country. let me list some of my disagreements:

    1) Eritrea is an independent country, we choose to be independent not because of some frivolous and capricious desire that could, one day, be reversed upon rising problems in our domestic domain. We choose independence because we thought that we can do better on our own, be it for good or for bad. There’s no turning back on this, even if we fail as a state we are alone, we must find our way to solve our problems. Nobody is entitled to decide on our fate as a nation and as people.

    2) Ethiopian interest. What would be Ethiopia’s interest in intervening for Eritrea ? do you really believe they would do that for free? or, as some naive souls say, would it do only because, a free and stable Eritrea is also an Ethiopian interest ? If you believe that, I think you are naive, or as wedi berad would say “yewahinet iyu”. if Ethiopia would ever intervene in Eritrea it will only do in a perpetual control of Eritrea and the final result would be shaping the Eritrean future in the light of her best interest, for sure it will never be for Eritrean interest as a primary objective.

    3) Eritrean interest. What would the Eritreans gain (final gain) out of Ethiopian intervention ?

    A) the removal of a dictator ?

    B) the creation of an Eritrean democratic government ?

    C) Stability on their daily lives ?

    other gains?

    these are some points that might come in mind as a final objective of the said intervention; let me try to address each of them :
    A) intervention for the removal of a dictator is the prerogative of the Eritrean people how about if the Ethiopian intervention creates an even worse Eritrean dictator ? are we going to ask their help whenever we can’t handle our internal problems ? the answer to you.
    B) intervention for creation of a democratic Eritrea. We have seeing in recent history when democracies are exported by force and imposed by others, the result is failure. Iraq and Afghanistan are simple examples that come to my mind. Let alone Ethiopia which is not a fully democratic country yet (some would say it’s not democratic at all) even the most powerful country in the world can’t export its form of democracy.
    C) intervention for future stability of Eritrean lives. I don’t even see how a military intervention can create stability with the lives of ordinary men and women, it will only create more instability more damage more carnage a chaos that we can only imagine from the beginning and cant see it’s end.
    D) other gains for the eritrean people ? i see none.

    5) Eritrean intervention in Ethiopia (Ethiopia a failed state argument). Let’s reverse the argument for a second… (i know far fetched and purely hypothetical) there are whispers that Ethiopia its self might become soon a failed state, let me tell you that i don’t really agree with it, but for the sake of argument let’s accept as a plausible fact, would the Ethiopians call for an Eritrean intervention to restore a stable and united Ethiopia?
    PFDJ in their daily propaganda call the EPRDF a minority regime, they try to appear as if they care for the amhara and the oromos more than the amharas and oromos themselves (Abinet was joking about that in this forum). if there would be a danger of an ethiopian failed state I would never expect an Ethiopian would ask for an Eritrean intervention to save them nor i would ever expect for an ethiopian to fall for PFDJ propaganda. so why we should even think for a second Ethiopians would solve our home grown problem ? i think if we believe that we are falling for TPLF propaganda.

    • Abel

      Rest assured, Ethiopia/TPLF/Weyane..will never spare a single life for Eritrea.
      Hospitality is our trademark,mutual relationship is always welcomed but Ethio/Eritrean relation ship will remain at arms length at least until the left overs of Jebha, Shaebia, Alwahida,Al lslamia……are out of the game..Why would Ethiopia need Eritrea?

  • sara

    ato semere, honestly the best thing in your arti-com…. is you reminded me of my favourite dish. infact your assertion that it has a side effect, that it makes someone tired that he may miss class is some how ok,than other food types which are highly toxic they make you behave like a hyena which i detest it and am sure you know what i mean.

  • Abinet

    Sem
    ” It takes a genius to milk 90 million cows ” said Ted the wise man. Now I hear you saying it is OK to sacrifice the cows to save a sick chicken.
    If eritreans refuse to salvage their own country, what is in it for ethiopians or the ” cows” to do it on eritreans’ behalf? I don’t get it. Where are the gallant fighters when you need them the most? Where are the Arabs who told you you are different,you are better, you are civilized ? Where are the Arabs who bankrolled your struggle? Why don’t you seek help from them?
    It looks like you need to milk the cows and eat them at the same time .

    • Nitricc

      No Abinet forget milking; it takes balls to leave 90 mill land lacked. chow on that one.

      • Abinet

        I agree with you . It takes a ball to choke somebody and die in the process. Some balls are useless.