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Eritrea’s Isaias and His Nervous Travels

The unclear, haphazard political maneuvering of Isaias Afwerki’s government continues to expose Eritrea to unnecessary and risky situations.

Saudi Arabia

On 13 January 2020, the Eritrean Ministry of Information  criticized a Saudi Arabian official for stating his country’s  “efforts to resolve differences between brothers in Africa” and asserted “the Kingdom has harnessed its pioneering Islamic role in this regard… the first result of those was the historic peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea”.

An Eritrean press release considered the Saudi statement was “grossly at variance with the genesis and facts of the historic agreement” while it recognized “the goodwill of our international partners,” it considered the statement “a condescending narrative that belittles Africa and its achievements”.

However, according to Reuters, on September 2018 Ethiopia’s Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed and Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki signed the above mentioned “peace agreement” in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, .

Usually, the Eritrean government is obsessed with portraying itself as extremely independent and doesn’t give credit or acknowledge outside support. Instead it claims it accomplishes everything single-handedly.

Saudi Arabia maintains an uneasy relation with Isaias Afwerki and is worried he might get involved in Yemen where it is waging a helpless war since 2015 and complicate matters. Isaias’ latest visit to Saudi Arabia has addressed the lingering issues and hasten the flow of Saudi investments, and funds promised to the PFDJ coffers.

Both Saudi Arabia and the UAE portray themselves as sponsors of the Abiy-Isaias rapprochement of 2018.

Djibouti

Though Qatar’s tireless efforts to reconcile Eritrea and Djibouti didn’t bear fruit, both Saudi Arabia and Ethiopia claim they helped reconcile the two. However, nothing has changed on the ground since Qatar pulled its troops that were stationed for almost a decade in a buffer zone between the two countries.

Tigrai, Ethiopia

Isaias’s threat that he will get involved in Ethiopian affairs has resulted in reactions from the TPLF, the ruling party in the Northern Ethiopian Tigrai region. TPLF made harsh threats against Isaias Afwerki warning, hey will “cut his hands” if he interferes in Ethiopian matters.

Abiy Ahmed’s targeting of TPLF, the government of the Ethiopian Tigrai region in collaboration with Isaias Afwerki, and the prevalent heightened rhetoric is pushing the region towards a precarious situation that might result in disastrous consequences.

Eastern Sudan

Meanwhile, politicians in Eastern Sudan are accusing the Eritrean government of involvement in the region. At the center is General Mahmoud Humed, the present governor of the eastern Sudan province.

In 2006 after the Eritrean facilitated Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement, Eritrea asked for the then chief of military intelligence Colonel Mahmoud Humed from the region. He was promoted to the rank of Brigadier general and transferred to Chad as a military attached at the Sudanese embassy.

When the Sudanese Eritrean relations deteriorated over smuggling and political interference, Mahmoud Humed was promoted to the rank of Major General and brought back to Eastern Sudan as a commander of the 11th Division. He was appointed as the governor of the Kessela state during the recent Sudanese uprising. There is bad blood between the current governor and the Eritrean regime.

Eastern Sudan is home to many Eritrean and Sudanese forces that benefited from the corruption in the region, including human trafficking and smuggling rackets, which are fiercely competing against each other to keep their criminal businesses. This time they are veiled behind different political parties.

Ethiopia “Not verify and Arrest, but Arrest and then verify”

Meanwhile, Abiy Ahmed gave orders to free prisoners who were arrested during his “anti-corruption” campaign. He gave directives to the attorney general to re-investigate the cases and free the wrongly accused prisoners. The arrests were mostly arbitrary and of a political nature and mainly targeted officials and military officers of Tigraian origin.

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  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ስድራይ
    ኢሎም ክሰምዩኒ ሕሩይ
    ከም ማይ-ሑጻ ጽሩይ
    ቃላት ኣወዳድቓ ምዕሩይ
    ብደቂ ዓዲ ምስጉን ፍሩይ

    ከም ሻሙ ኣይኮነን ሽም ተመሪጹ
    ከምዝ ሎሚ ከይኮነ ሕሩይ ተረጊጹ
    ትረጋጺ ኸመን ዩ?
    ——-መንዶሎ’ዩ ‘ቲ መንደላይ ተመን
    ——-ብድሕሪ ጀጋኑ ተሓቢኡ ዝውጥን
    ——-መዓልታዊ ገበን

    መጋረጃ ጀጋኑ ተጠቕሊሉ
    ካብ ብጾቱ ተኸዊሉ
    ቀትሪ ከምስል ሰጊዱ ለይቲ ግን ዓዊሉ

    ብብደዐ ተበሊጹ
    ነቶም ጀጋኑ ግን ሂወቶምን ታሪኾምን ረጊጹ
    ሃገር ብ ሃገራ ዓሚጹ
    ኣብ ሪፈረንደም ኣይፋል ኣድሚጹ

    ሕጂ
    ኣነየ ሓላዪ ኤረትራ
    ይብለና
    ‘ና ወጣወጠ ስሑል ካራ
    ሃገርናን ህዝብናን ‘ባ ሓሚሱ ኣዕበራ
    ነዚ ምባል ክንስእን ያላ
    ባራ
    ኣንታ ከመይ ድያ ዛህዝብና ደንቊራ????

  • Nitricc

    To all who have a little humanity.
    I DON’T know may be I am the crazy one in here. Whenever I go, more frequently, I go to baseball games and every time I pay attention to the number of attending crowed. There are days when they say 20K people are attending the game and I watch carefully at the people during the game and I pay close attention when they get out through the large gets and I never failed to think the same amount of people Eritrea paid for the border war. When they tell you 20K lost their lives, it doesn’t make any sense till you put the faces in to the numbers. Every time I go to the game, I think about the brave 20K Eritrea lost. I don’t know them but I only have to human to feel and to think of them. Now, when a person comes and trying to tell me about respect, maturity, civility and humility while he sold his soul and 20K lost lives, for a free ticket? What am I supposed to say, feel, think, act, do. Man, 20K lost! Next time you go to games and pay attention to the number of attending people and see for yourself what 20K people amount to. And then imagine disgracing them and disgracing your soul by getting bribe by the same organization that killed your brothers and sisters. I say No and go to hell. Again I am not Eritrean and I have no idea where Eritrea is but I human and I have virtue to respect humanity and to disgrace disgraced people who sell their soul to the highest order.

    • Nitricc

      “Prime Minister Zenawi has passed away on August 20, 2012, he was 57 and his life’s lamp went out untimely out. Though Judgment is something that one has to face invariably, the Horn of Africa in particular and the continent of Africa in general have lost a pragmatic visionary and a detail-oriented strategic thinker of this era. That is why tributes and accolades are flooding from all corners of the world to reflect his attributes.”
      I WONDER WHO WOULD SAY THAT?

      • Abi

        Hello General
        I have no idea who said the above paragraph about the visionary meles .
        አማን ያውልህ

      • mokie berhe

        Salam Niricc. Where did you take that paragraph from? Maybe Tigrai Online? Whoever wrote it, is definitely employed/paid by the TPLF!

        • Nitricc

          Hi Mokie; think again …… who do you think said this….. think; he said he is Eritrean but bribed by TPLF thugs… think

          PM Meles’s moral choices were understood by speculators since 1991 when he took power that his prime goal was to eradicate “poverty and ignorance.” All his domestic policies were framed around and directed against poverty and ignorance. He won the admiration of IMF and World Bank to receive international loans for agricultural, educational, and infra-structural developments. Ethiopia now with real GDP growth at a double digit rate since 2003, have outperformed most African countries.

          • Abi

            Hello General
            Why are you asking these questions?
            አገር አማን ነው?

      • mokie berhe

        Salam Nitricc. Do you remember who said this: “If Isaias is making a strategic alliance with Abiy at the expense of Eritrea and Eritreans to destroy TPLF, don’t you think it is logical for us Eritreans to make a strategic alliance with TPLF in our concerted struggle to defeat Isaias?”

  • Nitricc

    I have always wondered why people like this fat slap, crying general say what they say. I mean, it is a dead issue, Eritrea moved on and so do Ethiopians but why do they what they say? One twitter shade a light to it and it makes sense.

    His Asseb rhetoric is a diversionary tactics. The aim is to
    please some Amhara who still have a hangover over Asseb & in a process to
    make them forget about their stolen lands Welkait-Tsegade.
    However, majority of Amhara wouldn’t fall to TPLF devious
    agenda.

    • Abi

      General
      It is just a matter of time Assab will be taken by Ethiopia.
      Relax.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Abiy the good thing is there will be no more Ethiopia. Thanks to TPLF. you will see.The truth. you can’t sustain. You are to backward, busy killing each other in University because ethnic, you are over populated, you are debt ridden and most of all your education system is broken beyond repair. This one is the tough one to over come. Once the current work force is done working, nothing is coming up to replace them. that is why you will cease to exist as one nation. Just telling you.

        • Abi

          Hello General
          አካሲ! አለ ኦሮሞ

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abiy what does it mean to say “Akasi” I am serious you guys worry about Assab; your country in deepS. Do you know in the world, from what I know, your country is the first university students kill each other due to ethnicity. I understand a peasant to kill due to ethnic differences but a university student? The whole education system broken, I have no idea how you are going to fix it. The sad part is the once they broken the education system with Doctor-General A-holes be long gone. The point is I am not worried about Assab. In fact, give the entire gojjam and I will give Assab.

          • Abi

            Hello General
            ተባለ እንዴ!!

          • Nitricc

            CAIRO – 5 March 2020: The Arab League Council voiced rejection of any infringement of Egypt’s historical rights to the waters of the River Nile.

            Hi Abiy; where is your toothless AU response for the AL? Ayyy Africa. No wonder why you Africans are easy bought and sold. No dignity?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            1, arab League parliament 3-4 month ago even wrote a letter and worn ethiopia not even to touch the nile water, arab League head quarter is in Cairo and it’s members r highly divided and i think egypt is writing it and saying it on the name of arab League.
            2, US is about to invest 5 billion

          • Nitricc

            Hey Teddy; so, this is the same statement that they put out a while ago. I didn’t know. As soon as I seen March 5 2020; I assumed it was a new one. Thanks for the info though. You said US about to invest 5B; invest where?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I meant they say same thing 4-5 month ago, no different from what egypt say through arab League 3-4 month ago.
            5 billion to support the new economic reforms of ethiopia, meaning tUSA don’t turned thier back to ethiopia.

          • Selam Nitrcc,
            There is nothing new. It is the same old rhetoric which is meant to show Arab solidarity. Not sure, but it seems that Sudan doesn’t want to be part of it, although i doubt it.
            Egypt and the Arab League are carrying out psychological warfare on Ethiopia. Ethiopia is not going to be scared by war let alone psychological warfare. It maybe easy to bark, but surely, it is not going to be an easy job to bite, because there is no nation in the world that doesn’t defend its sovereignty and its rights.
            Something new is that Abiy told the Ethiopian people about the patriotic battle at karamara, where the Somali invading army was defeated 42 years ago by the ethiopian armed forces under the leadership of MHM. Whatever the nature of government, any leader who had mobilised the masses and defeated the enemy and defended the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the nation has accomplished a patriotic act.
            Ziad Batte with the help of the Arab League and the USA invaded Ethiopia more than forty years ago. It seems that history is being repeated. This could be the reason PMAA is calling upon past glories and achievements in battle fields, thus indirectly sending the message to the people to be ready if called to defend the nation.
            Maybe the time for African solidarity has yet to come. It is not africans who are playing the game of psychological warfare but Egypt and the Arab League. Let’s hope that there will come a day when you would see africans under a different perspective.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Horizon,
            I really understand and despise the the Arab bullying of Ethiopia over the GERD which Ethiopia has full right to build. However, as an Eritrean, I see similar bullying over the Red Sea and Assab. A similar and aggressive approach against Eritrea by some Ethiopians. That is how we see it, a perfect parallel aggression. I wish the world was saner and tamed their hegemonic aspirations.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abu Salah,

            “Parallel aggression”! You made a hardball point against Ethiopian hegemonic aspiration in few words. Excellent.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Forgot horizon but do u believe “gerd” is a problem between ethiopia and the whole of Arabs? syria , Qatar, Algeria, Palestine and so on r arabs too.
            Asab is mainly afar land and sea and used to be under ethiopia territory before eritrea and i don’t see similarly between assab and gerd(blue nile). Morally, logically Assab is more closer to ethiopian afar than anybody else.
            and if ethiopia can’t use blue nile egypt will but assab if ethiopia don’t use it. It will be like what meles has said about assab, like what assab used to be the last 21 years.

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            I advocated strongly for Ashab to be open for Ethiopia when many were still sleeping. If you care to know more just tell me. I can provide you a few links over the weekend. However you try to explain it, no one is against the use of Assam or other ports just like many countries use their neighbors’ ports. You can go back to history selectively to justify threats. Aggressive threats is what I am objecting to, including hegemonic attitudes which have become abundant nowadays. I heard equally crazy Egyptians claim their pharaohs had control of the Nile. Go figure the insane politicking

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Agree with u but am talking about the afars , who has hegemonic attitudes ? the afars or the colonialist( the followers of colonial legacy)? And with the same logic it means 29 years ago derg was right and if the border changed again tomorrow , the same logic can apply.

          • Saleh Johar

            Tedros,
            If you write the engagement rules and dictate it, you can have your own logic. However, we are following common sense and even debating parameters, like rules , international laws, conventions, UN protocols, etc. In that case, please recognize our Afar are Eritreans, the core of it at that. Therefore, I am talking from the Eritrean perspective not based on your preference of kilil. We do not have that. Pls see Eritrea as one country not in parts.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Am sorry to say this but i don’t see the different between derg saying eritrea is part of ethiopia(ethiopia) 29 years ago and u saying afar is eritrea right now, because u both use the same logic, international laws, UN protocols and so on .
            Any ways i was referring to ethiopian afar.

          • Selam SJG,
            Having reservation about something and trying to create a permanent situation through war are not the same thing. Ethiopia never said that Egypt has no rights over the Nile. On the contrary it is Egypt that outrageously says that Ethiopia has no rights on its God given river, sitting hundreds of miles away and without contributing a drop of water to the river.
            On the other hand, Ethiopia was blocked from assab with the aim to harm her, without the slightest care how this would affect the coming generations.
            Here lies the difference. In the first case Ethiopia more or less guarantees Egypt’s rights for equitable use of the water, while Egypt tells the world unashamedly that the stronger takes all the waters of the Nile and decides the fate of the river.
            In the case of assab, the measures taken to block Ethiopia without facilitating and guarantying the continued use of the port by Ethiopia one way or the other without harming Ethiopia was the biggest mistake. Ethiopia was at its weakest moment at the time and they thought things will remain the same for ever. Egypt is doing exactly the same thing. Weak and divided Ethiopia will succumb, especially if the Arab League and the bull in a China shop – the guy that is good for nothing, trump, are behind Egypt. One should see a hundred, even a thousand years ahead in such cases. Hate politics is the problem of the region.

  • Abi

    Hello Addicts
    ሰው ጥሩ :ሰው ጥሩ : ሰው ጥሩ አንድ ሰው
    ከሚመጣው ሁሉ ከሚመላለሰው
    ( ከድሮ ዘፈን ላይ የተቀነጨበ ግጥም )

    እባካችሁ ዻውሎስን በመጥራት ተባበሩኝ::

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ኣባ ትልቁ፡

      እኔም ናፍቆኛል ይሄ የዓወተ ቆቅ
      ምን ባማረበት የTPLF ልብሱ ቢያወልቅ

      ጀነራል ጻድቃን ሰማሁት ሲያወራ የድሮ ትዝታ
      ኣስታወሰኝ ጳውሎስ ያወራው በቅርቡ ኣንድ ኣሉባልታ

      የሚውል ከሆነ ከነጀነራሎች ሲያወራ ከትላልቆቹ
      ሰልችተነው እንዳይሆን እነትናንሶቹ

      • Abi

        ጋሽዬ
        የወያኔው መምህር ዻውሎስ ቀርቶ
        ሻዕቢያው ኒትሪኬ ቦታውን ተክቶ
        እንዳይዘክር የቀድሞ ጀብዱ የቀድሞ ታሪክ
        ኒትሪኬ ተካው ነጋ ጠባ ሊነታረክ
        ለይቶ እንዳይነግረን ታሪክን ከወሬ
        በማይለይ ተተካ በርሄን ከበሬ

        ነገር ግን
        የወያኔን ካባ ደርቦ
        በአግአዚ ሸማ ተውቦ
        ከኔ ቀምቶ ያለችኝን ዳቦ
        ዘግቶብህ የመተንፈሻህን ቱቦ
        አፍኖ ሊገልህ እንዳተነፍስ
        አስጨንቆህ ሆነህ ፈስ በፈስ

        ቢሆንም
        ፖል ሲጠፋ ከአድባር
        ቀኑ ሲጫጫን ሲደብር
        ሱልጣን ይመጣል ሲደናበር
        የሌለውን ዜሮ ሊደረድር
        ያልሰራውን ሊዘረዝር
        ሊያምታታና ሊያጭበረብር

        ዝም ብቻ ነው የኔን ነገር
        መዘርዘሩን ከመጀመር

        የቴዲንማ
        የቴዲንማ
        የቴዲንማ
        በሉ ተውት…

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        I rather spend a second with you my dear brother than thousand years with the ጀነራሎች as you put it. Simply because they are not match to you. I sure don’t know you from Adam so to speak but strange as it may sound, I feel like I have known you for eternity. On the flip side, there are people in this Forum I don’t feel connected at all to the extent of having an aversion to what ever they say including anything benign–as in the Sciences. It is one of the mysteries of human nature. And here you have Abination, a guy with no commonality what so ever particularly on political views but I love that guy where I genuinely feel like he is my brother. Really!

        Not long ago, Awate was a hub of ideas where best minds including those of us in the median range rub shoulders with but sadly it has lost its spark and luster where the curious mind gets blunted buy mediocrity and often times with sheer stupidity. God bless!

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Paulo,

          I hope I am not not one of the ጀነራሎች. If I recall, I think I was the last person to comment on your post before your sabbatical…and when I read Abi plea, I was feeling guilty, it could be because of me. If it’s me I am sorry…how about I replace you for a little while and I disappear (ጸላኢኻ ይጥፋእ)… or you want me to sing…milena milena (abi it’s Tigrina version of sew Tru:)

          አቲ ሚለና ሓፍተይ ፡ ሚለና ሓፍተይ

          እንጀራና ነቂጹ፡ ስዋና መጺጹ፡

          ንዕባ በጃኺ ተመለሲ፡፡

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            You are a good person. I mean it. And of course, if I was going to have a son, I would name him Berhe hands down! I am not sure if you remember, a while back when you commented on Semere Tesfamariam’s Book Review, he said, how much he loved your name for it is not only original but a name with mystical meaning as well. God bless!

          • Berhe Y

            ዝኸበርካ ዶተረ

            በቓ ሕጅስ ይአኽለኒ፡ ካን አብዚሕካለይ፡ ክስከሞ ክኸብደኒ እዩ፡፡ ሓንቲ ዕላል ክነግረካ፡

            ንመጀመርያ፡ አብ አየር ገር ክጉዓዝ ከለኹ፡ ምስሕ ፕሪሞ ሰኮንዶ ተቀሪቡ ነሩ፡፡ ፓስታ፡ ፒስተካ፡ ሰላጣ ቀሪቦምልና፡፡ ሓውኻ ሓንቲ ከይገደፍኩ፡ ኩሉ ሓመደ ገይረዮ፡፡ ምስታ ሰላጣ ድማ፡ ሓንቲ ኦሊቭ ነይራ፡፡ አነ ድማ፡ ተመሪ ናይ ከረን መሲላትኒ፡ ኩሉ በሊዓ ምስ ወዳእኩ፡ ንዓአ በሊዔ ክውድእ ወሰንኩ፡፡

            አብ መጨረስታ፡ ብላዕ እንተበልኩዋ፡ እውይ፡ ዕረ፡፡ ነዚ ኩል ዝበልዓኩዎ ጥዑም ምግቢ፡ አባላሽው አቢላትለይ፡፡ ሕጂ ድሕሪ ነዊሕ እዋን፡ ካብቲ አዘየ ዝፈትዎ ነገር ኦሊቭ ሓደ እዩ፡፡

            እንታይ ማለተይ እዩ፡ ሕጂስ ድሕሪ እዙ ጽቡቅ ናታካ ቃላት፡ ስቅ ምባል ይሓይሽ ማለትይ እዩ፡፡

            ክብረት ይሃበለይ፡ ጽብቅ እዋን ክመጽእ እዩ፡፡ ምስዞም ጣንጡ እንተተረኻና አይንነብርን ኢና፡፡ ንዶ/ር ሓሸላ ዝሓተትክዎ ሓንቲ ነገር አላ፡ ንዓኽውን ስለ ትምልከት፡ እስከ ሕሰበላ፡፡

            በርሀ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hello brothers Berhe/Hailat,
            I thought Doterre was working on the terrible virus vaccination. He better have a solution after this disappearance.

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            ኣኽቢድካለይ ኢኒጂኔረ ዓርከይ.

            My area is more on the Biochem particularly related to pathology or diseases.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            Good to see you back, brother. Still this way or that a pathologist has a role in the current pandemic challenge.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            True and I hope soon they find a vaccine for it. And thank you.

        • Haile S.

          Hey Paul,
          The feeling is reciproque. I too feel we have been together since the 70s in Edaga Hamus. Good to know your revenant is around. Stay tuned, later from home, I will share one of the tigrigna poems collected by Carlo Conti Rossini.

        • Haile S.

          Selamat Paul,
          I forgot to answer to your last paragraph. The solution is to push back, not to get exiled from exile. Remember Awate is the last wall. If we run again from it we are heading to complete silence. Silence is not golden (a title of a book written by an Ethiopian following the 1991 change).
          የቐንየለይ ከኣ። ኣብዚሕካለይ እንዲኻ! ደሓር ክኣ ‘ጎድ ብለስ’ ኢልካ ከም መልኣኽ ዝርኣየ ሰይጣን እንዲኻ ኣባህሪርካኒ!

        • Abi

          Paul
          ያሰብኩት ተሳካ ያለምኩት ደረሰ
          ሃሳቤም ተሟላ መንፈሴም ታደሰ
          ( የጥላሁን ዘፈን)
          እንደው ሰሞኑን በአብይ ፆም ዝፈን ዝፈን ይለኛል::

          ልጅ ዻውሎስ
          እውር ቢሸፍት እስከጏሮ
          ተመልሶ መጣ ሰምቶ የራሥን እሮሮ
          የቀንየለይ ወዲ ሃወይ
          አይ ትግርኛ, እዋይ!!

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Missed you too ma bro. Before the ink dries, here starts the tension….

            On Alula, here is the deal: Before that though, a bit of intro is in order. If you ask any Eritrean particularly of my generation including Berhino, we know of the Israeli historian Haggai Erlich whose book, “The Struggle Over Eritrea, 1962-1978” is arguably the most authentic account on how EPLF came into being. You don’t need to read any other book to understand the early years of the Front. Really.

            But what is even more interesting about Haggai Erlich is that, he did his Ph.D on the lives and times of Ras Alula and if you can get a hold of the thesis, you would know that those Russian Generals Simon Kibreab cited dwarf in comparison with Ras Alula. The man was unique!

            Moreover, Haggai Erlich’s Ph.D advisor was Edward Ullendroff, arguably the most prominent figure in Ethiopian history. And you can imagine, the credibility Erlich enjoyed in his subsequent scholarly works including on Ras Alula.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,
            I agree on the objectivity of Haggai on Alula’s history in bringing the praise the ras deserves and the blunder he did on the local population. However credit should also be given to the local hagiographer on whom Haggai depended too. I don’t recall the name of the local person for now.

          • Abi

            Paul
            አንድ ጊዜ ክንዴን አቅምሻቸዋለሁ
            ዳግመኛም ከመጡ እደግማቸዋለሁ!!
            (ጀነራል አሉላ)
            የታላቁ ሪቻርድ ፖንክረስት ልጅ ሥም አሉላ እንደሆነ ታውቃለህ?

          • Paulos

            Abination,

            Yea it is remarkable he named his son Alula as opposed to the other prominent Emperors. I think the son wrote a book on Alula. Could be wrong but I think he did.

          • Abi

            Paul
            The name Alula should be reserved for very few people who excelled in their fields.
            አሉላ የማዕረግ ሥም መሆን አለበት::

        • Haile S.

          Selam Paul,
          What I promised about Rossini’s tigrigna poem collections is going to wait. I couldn’t find the document easily, sorry.

          • Abi

            ጋሽዬ
            እንደባለቤቶቹ ሸፍቶ እንዳይሆን ያሰጋል::

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      ሰላም ራስ አቢ,

      ዶ/ር ጳውሎስ በስነስርዓት የሌላቸው ተማሪወች ስድብና መወንጀል ስለበዛበት ወደዚህ ፎርም የሚመለስ አይመስለኝም:: when a professor is being insulted by his student, he has to leave and look another teaching school. Don’t you think so? Let me find out where he is teaching currently, then I will advice you to transfer your credits where he is teaching.

      • Abi

        መርሃባ አቦይ አማኑኤል
        የጠፋው በግ ተገኝቷል::

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ሓሊመ
    እምባሕ ክብል ሓዲረ
    ብድቁሰይ ክፍክር ሓዲረ
    ናይ ሰላም-ርግኣት-ቅሳነት መዝሙር ዘሚረ
    —–ረዚነ
    —–ከቢረ
    ኣብ እግሪ ሳግላ ኣጽሊለ
    ደብተረይ ገንጺለ
    ተራእየኒ ማዕቢለ
    ሓቂ ግበሮ! ‘ንታይ ክብል ኢለ
    ግን ተማህሊለ
    ——ከይብለኩም
    ——ከይስመዓኩም
    ገለ-መለ ጠቓሊለ
    ——‘ሞ ዘትከኽኩ
    ——ኣብ ግዳማዊ-ህዋ ዝነጠርኩ
    ——ከይመስለኩም
    ከም ‘ተጸለለ
    የድሕን!

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I am just reading this water war between Ethiopia, Sudan, Egypt, the USA and WB.I am having hard time taking the harassments of Ethiopia by the gangs seriously. It is not secret that Ethiopia is at her weakest moment to deal with Egypt about Abay. Ethiopia is too divisive, debt ridden, ethnically polarized and soft federal government. So, I understand why Egypt can flex her muscles. On the mean time, this drama could mean to help PMAA elect. Egypt and the US knows that there won’t be like PMAA who can be flexible and trusted allay and keeping him in power both Egypt and the US are to gain the benefit. In my opinion; this just a dram to dram up PMAA’s personality as tough, states man and strong leader. Once they do that PMAA will be elected and then Ethiopia will do what ever Egypt, Sudan, USA and WB wanted. Simply Ethiopia at moment has chance, sadly. I hear Adwa this Adwa that but people, that was then when human wave was part of a war strategy. The Ethio-Eritrea war is a good lesson that human wave no more applies and its devastating outcomes. I am with Ethiopia on this issue but simply Ethiopia is too weak to stand up to Egypt.

    • Selam Nitricc,
      Do you remember the 1973 war between Israel and Egypt? In the Sinai peninsula, egyptian soldiers removed their boots so that they could run faster for their lives in the sand. Take it as a fact, because it is.
      The only thing egypt could do is an aerial bombardment of the dam if sudan allows her airfields to be used. If so, sudan will pay a price for that, one way or the other. Aerial bombardment will not change the fate of the dam or that of the river. Only that there will be a delay in the completion of the dam, and diversion of the tributaries of the nile will take some time. Then egypt will come begging for an agreement.
      If Egyptian boots land in ethiopia, they will go back in body bags in their thousands. Things are not as simple as that.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Horizon,
        I remember the 1973 war. It’s when the Egyptians returned their occupied territories, the Sinai peninsula and opened the Suez Canal that was closed after the 1967 war. Maybe they removed their boots to take. dip in the Suez Canal waters 🙂 Say anything about 1973 but you can’t revise well documented recent history.

        I remember that very well, but I didn’t expect you to repeat populist messages that was spread at the time for agitational purposes.

        NB: This has nothing to do with your debate with forumers, just a correction for your eyes.

        • Selam SJG,

          It was the Yom Kippur war, the holiest Israeli holiday, on the day everything was at a standstill, when Egypt and Syria carried out a surprise attack. The Egyptian army crossed the Suez canal and occupied the eastern shores. The israeli armed forces were completely unprepared for it and taken by surprise. That was why the arab armies advanced the first few days of the war.
          A ceasefire came to effect when the Israeli army was only a 100km away from Cairo and almost at the gates of Damascus. It was also said that about 15K Egyptian soldiers were surrounded by the Israeli armed forces. No territories were returned. I don’t think that there was anything populist about the war.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Horizon,
            If you are not biased you will look into things clearly

            1- surprise is a legitimate tactic of war, the intelligence dept should have been alert. Egypt won

            2- in Israel it was yon kippur and it was Ramadan in Egypt. They were Even on this one.

            The rest is mundane issues to defend a rigid view

            Cheers

          • Selam SJG,
            “Egypt won”. Where, when and how? Who is biased here? You or me? Egypt’s surprise attack didn’t last long. It was followed by utter defeat.
            Egyptians and Syrians weren’t sitting in their homes celebrating the Ramadan holiday as Israel was doing on the day of Yom Kippur, if the two holidays fall on the same day. They thought they would win an easy war and they attacked. German and British soldiers were playing football at the front on Christmas days, contrary to what the Egyptians did. Even today a ceasefire is practiced on some holidays.

          • Abi

            Hello Horizon
            Egypt won? Was there a soccer game I missed over the weekend?
            Did Saleh score?

      • Nitricc

        Hi Horizon; I read about 1973 but obviously I don’t remember nor I was born. But What does US benefit from helping Egypt on this matter? Since last October when the Arab-league held press conference in support of Egypt; I was a little surprised by the silence of the Ethiopians. The could have sent the shock wave by protesting everywhere around the world. But when the Ethiopians stayed silent; every one who wants you down was encouraged and emboldened. However; if there will be a war, aside mechanized and Air; Ethiopians will win hands down. Ethiopians are battle tested thanks to the Eritreans.

        • Selam Nitricc,
          I had tried to explain in my previous posts. Trump wants to pass his so-called deal of the century concerning Palestine, and he plans to make jerusalem the capital city of the jewish state. On these two issues he wants the support of arab leaders, especially al sisi. He is ready to fulfill egypt’s demands on the nile to the satisfactions of al sisi so that he supports trump’s plans..
          Trump wants the votes of American Jews in the coming elections. In addition, he is obsessed to win the Nobel Peace Prize. Last time he was lamenting that somebody else was given the NPP while he deserved it. He was indirectly talking about PMAA. He said that he saved two poor african countries from going to war. I don’t know if he meant Ethiopia and Eritrea. The guy is paranoid.
          Ethiopians in the USA are mobilised. They demonstrated at the state department some days ago. They are already calling their senators and informing them about what trump is trying to do at the expense of Ethiopia. Ambassador Shinn knows about it, and he condemned trump. So, Ethiopians in the USA are doing their level best to thwart trump + al sisi conspiracy.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Horizon:
            Your analysis on this issue is spot on,and for the most part except when dealing with Aseb issue .
            Trump’s rush is but for appeasing Israel by all means possible and as you eloquently said it,he does not care about Egypt and its interest but to use it as a LEVERAGE to advance his dole agenda: To be RE-ELECTED by all means possible!
            SO embarrassing that Egypt literally ACCEPTED Trump’s nasty peace plan !

            Good luck to the Ethiopians in the USA but make sure that you all understand that NO Senator from both parties will say a word or do anything against the interest of Israel .

          • Nitricc

            Hi Sultan; Ethiopians in the USA needs the black Americans to get involved. Already some prominent Black Americans are pressuring the Trump administration. It is unfair to what happening to Ethiopia. In a way; they are testing what Eritreans have tested for the last 20 years. Ethiopians in Diasporas can and should pressure Trump.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Horizon,

        “If Egyptian boots land in ethiopia, they will go back in body bags in their thousands. Things are not as simple as that.”.

        I hope it does not come to that, and better heads will reason. Egypt does not need to go to war to secure it’s access to the water, it has used diplomacy to it’s advantage and now Ethiopia got itself into situation that it is hard to get out. I think Ethiopians who live in the US being mobilized is one thing, but will they make a difference is another thing.

        I don’t know why would Egypt would need to land boots in Ethiopia.

        I was searching the military power of the two countries to understand the difference. I found this website global firepower dotcom. And here is their military capabilities, see below.

        I think MZ had played his cards well.
        1) Instead of seeking help from the international community, he wanted sympathy (Ethiopia needs to develop it’s economy, etc…)
        2) He convinced all the African countries who contribute to the nile to agree and align in support of Ethiopia.

        I think Abil blew this out….

        Berhe

        “Egypt:
        Man Power
        Active Personnel 440,000
        Reserver 480,000

        Airpower
        fighters: 215
        helicopters: 294
        attack helicopters:

        Land Forces:
        Tanks:4295
        armoured vehicles: 11,700
        self propelled artillery: 1,139
        Towed artillery: 2,189
        rocket projectors: 1,084

        Naval Power:
        Total assets: 316
        Aircraft carriers: 2
        submarines: 8

        Defence Budget:
        11,200,000,000
        ====

        Ethiopia
        Man Power
        Active Personnel 162,000
        Reserver 0

        Airpower
        Total Strength: 86
        fighters: 24
        helicopters: 33
        attack helicopters: 8

        Land Forces:
        Tanks:400
        armoured vehicles: 114
        self propelled artillery: 67
        Towed artillery: 650
        rocket projectors: 183

        Naval Power:
        Total assets: 0
        Aircraft carriers: 0
        submarines: 0

        Defence Budget:
        350,000,000

        • Abi

          Hawna Berhe
          የፈሪ ብትር ብዙ ነው ይላሉ ዘመዶችህ::

          ግብፅ
          ሀሞት 0
          ኢትዮጵያ
          ሀሞት
          ለሌላ እንተርፋለን!!

        • Selam Berhe Y.,
          Diplomacy or military power is not going to give the Nile to Egypt on a platter.
          Military gudgets do not win wars, but “hamot” to defend one’s country, and there isn’t a shortage of it in Ethiopia, as Abi said. If military gudgets were everything, the USA and Russia would have a free ride all over the world.
          It is Egypt that is war mongering and not Ethiopia. It is the Egyptians who need some brain substance in their scull. Whoever beats the drum of war is not going to have his way. Egyptians did not have their way even in the past, let alone today.
          Be sure nothing has changed. Nobody can give the Nile as a gift to Egypt. All non Arab stakeholders on the Nile are united. It is not finished yet, Berhe.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon and Abi,

            I am just responding to your comment “Egypt boots land in Ethiopia”. I don’t think you have thought about what that means.

            Again, I don’t think it will get to war. Ethiopia had the upper hand
            1) trying to get itself out of poverty and it needs to use the Nile to generate energy.
            2) the unfair deal Egypt signed with itself.
            3) Sudan and the African countries are at its side (except a minor player Eritrea).

            So there was no question about Ethiopia building the dam. The only point if contention was “how long it takes to fill it”.

            Now if you ask me, if Ethiopia ends up compromising on that and take longer, it would not be the end of the works. Sure it means some financial loss (delay, cost more etc) but if you look into 100 years from now, it means nothing. After all, Ethiopia had not used the Nile for thousands of years, what’s another 3 or 5 years.

            So my question was, why did it give up on that, and got the US and WB involved, and change the argument from “how long” to “what ever it is that the US/Egypt proposed”.

            I know who to blame, must be Architect Isayas Afeworki advice to Abiy. Look how Nitric is going to listen (please don’t take his advice, he flip flops all the time depending where his god Isayas mood is).

            Going back to the war scenario, I see no reason why Egypt needs to invade Ethiopia. Like I said, it’s unlikely that it gets to that, specially now Ethiopia is busy with demonstrations and lobbying and zeraf, zeraf while Egypt is delaying the project indirectly, and everyone talking about the “deal” Ethiopia refused which will give Egypt upper hand diplomatically and make “Ethiopia” unreasonable and wanting to cut off Egypt. The Egyptians can rally their people, “no boby reads the details” but react to the propaganda. You can count on Egyptian people to fully support their government plan 100%.

            The worst scenario is if this becomes a confrontation and turns to war… in that scenario, I don’t think Egypt needs to invade Ethiopia, and shut off the valve manually, with “boots on the ground” like you think it is. If it succeed in destroying the dam structure, using air power, docking with its carrier at the Red Sea, having Sudan at its side (don’t count on it they can easily switch sides) is then success.

            As far as Egypt is concerned so long as the water is able to flow, that’s all it needs to achieve. And it will take Ethiopia another 10 years, 20 years depending how strong its economy, its political stability and focus is to reattempt to rebuild.

            Abi,

            I think Ethiopia needs to beat Egypt in the African cup and win championships, because your critical thinking is limited to think that far:).

            I wish Amde was Abiy and I wish Saay was Isayas.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,
            How did you come to the conclusion that sudan and african countries are at the side of egypt. What have they got to gain? Sudan is blowing with the wind right and left because it cannot decide. It knows that its interest lies with ethiopia, because the gerd is very important to sudan, but it doesn’t want to be characterized negatively as if she is not supporting the arab solidarity.

            No, there was a question in building the dam. Al Sisi had said that if it were not for the arab spring the gerd wouldn’t have been constructed. How long it takes the dam to fill it is very important. Egypt’s plan is to delay and minimize the output of the dam. It will not finish there. Egypt can continue to say ad infinitum that she is short of water, and ethiopia shouldn’t fill the dam. Would you advise egypt to find other sources of water beside the nile: desalinization, water economy, tapping the huge amount of water under the desert, etc? At one time egypt was ready to sell water to israel.

            Com’on Berhe, be serious. What is this you are saying? It is exactly because ethiopia has not used it for thousands of years that it should start using the nile asap. You may trust egypt, but not ethiopians who were denied their rights.

            It is al sisi that ran for trump’s help and not ethiopia. Ethiopia as a poor third world country was not in the position to say no. I tried to explain that last time, and i don’t understand why you keep repeating this point.

            Don’t involve IA. He has nothing to do with the gerd.

            You contradicting yourself. You say egypt has no reason to invade ethiopia, and with the same breath you say egyptians are 100% with the government. You don’t seem to pay attention to al sisi when he says “we will use any means available to us” to have our way.

            You can’t easily destroy such a big dam with air power only. Ethiopia is not going to sit and watch. They will cause damage, yes.

            How do you expect egypt to control the nile short of occupying ethiopia? How do you think that egypt will get all the water it wants as long as ethiopia controls the headwaters of the nile? What would you say if ethiopia simply diverts all the tributeries of the nile? Can she do that?

            I don’t see why ethiopia should compromise as you say and not egypt. In a way you are presenting ethiopia as the odd guy in this affair, the one that doesn’t want a settlement as per egypt’s wish. Equitable use of the waters and a negotiated settlement that serves the interest of ethiopia as well is the only solution. Egypt’s long term plan is much more than filling the dam, but how to keep the 80% of the nile waters as its share. You seem to say that except ethiopia all african riparian countries accept that.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I think I understand your point of view now.

            you are saying Egypt is not able to stop Ethiopia and the only way is to invade it. Air power will not be enough.

            It’s a valid argument and I am in yes position to disagree with that.

            I said Sudan can switch sides, if it weighs the options. I say it could, I didn’t say it did. I didn’t say anything about the other African countries, they have yes reason not to support Ethiopia, and their support is not significance if there is a conflict.

            I still think Abiy was wrong in getting the US involved and that’s what I started my disagreement.

            The rest is just speculation and there are people who can think better than me how to handle this.

            I want to end it there.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I don’t want to criticize your critical tinkering about the ever trickery Egyptian position on the Dam.
            As you said there are people who can think better than you as to how to handle the issue at hand.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You are more than welcome to criticize me. BTW, I was not endorsing Egypt’s position or it’s past stumbling tactics to block Ethiopia development.

            If you think Ethiopia position is better now than it involved the US and WB (because of the smart people who managed this), then there is no disagreement.

            But like you said, I an no body…so it doesn’t matter.
            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            My critical thinking department has been closed for badly needed overhauling. It is expected to be opened under new management.
            However, when I see your comment that is supposed to be oozing from a critical thinker of the highest level, I said to myself ወንድሜ አሪስጣጣሪስ አዲስ ራሥ ባስቸኳይ ይፈልጋል::
            Aristotle = አሪስጣጣሊስ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Good one:).

            For sure your future is bright in the comedy department. Just don’t take advice from Nitric (I mean Issu).

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            I wish Amde was Abiy and I wish Saay was Isayas.

            Hi Berhe; aren’t you to old to be Aqatary. Boy you are one amazing stupid and Aqatary. mind your business. This is the business of Ethiopian and Egypt. what a disgraced.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            First thing first: Ethiopian politics should be stabilized and Ethiopian political forces should compromise as a prerequisite for their unity. Once that attained, they can challenge to the Egyptians and their allies to reassure their interest and continue with finishing and filling the dam as scheduled. What Ethiopian leaders need is to stay firm with their policy. US will not let them to go to war and is not to US interest. At the end of the day fair distribution of the water is the only way out to both of them, Ethiopia has every right to exploit its natural resources that include the Nile river.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            It is clear that u r not capable to understand ethiopia’s poltics, u think u know some but u r dumb in ethiopia poltics, i know u will not understand it but take a look at yesterday’s 124 years anniversary celebration of adawa victory.
            u kind of like worried and happy for ur own reasons more than the ethiopians, more than the childrens of blue nile( abay), it doesn’t make sense and nothing will come out that makes u guys happy. Trust me every negative things can be turned to positive outcomes.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Berhe:
            -The war scenario is a very remote possibility….. a last resort …if things get complicated and Egypt fails in getting what it wants.
            -Before confrontation,Egypt can play a proxy war among Ethiopians…. by taking advantage like the current situations , God forbid. But it has already used this proxy war …
            -What Ethiopia needs now is :
            A) Hold off the negotiations
            B) Stabilize itself in all aspects( politically,diplomatically,economically )
            Build and strengthen its UNITY, economy, diplomacy and military :
            a)Military:
            -like expedite getting ten French Rafael Jets and 10 long range guided missiles and fortify its Air defense System in and around the Dam,which it has done thus far.
            -Expedite its Navy Build up in Djibouti
            -Diplomacy:
            -Tighten its alliance with the African nations in general and the Nile Basin Nations in particular and with Israel( already underway secretly)

            Of utmost importance:
            -Strengthen the Ethiopian Movement domestically and globally …to rally behind the Abiy Govt as a ONE ,UNITED NATION and People,the BEST opportunity for Abiy and his Meddrmer agenda!
            Bingo! He got it.

            -Renew the Diaspora and local Financial contribution… to raise a $1-2billion
            Concerns:
            The Arab World might rally behind Egypt !
            Financially, politically,diplomatically and can mobilize Islamic Jihad,God forbid.
            The UAE can shut off the $$ channel to Abiy($4 billion already channeled)!
            Eritrea /IA?
            Berhe,where did u get that notion that Issu is against Ethiopia and its Dam?

            Issu advised Abiy to drop the Dam business or to surrender to Cairo?

            Please, decency !

            TPLF propaganda at its best:
            Hint:
            -PFDJ was behind the Al Shebab Terrorism

            -PFDJ was behind the Uganda/ Kampala and Nairobi massacre through Operation Code Asmera

            -PFDJ was behind the attempted AU bombing thru few OLF members!

            Guess what?
            The TPLF was behind all the above terrorist acts directly and by proxy!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sultan,

            I said Issu is behind so I can get Nittric of my back, I forgot about you :).

            I was jocking and have no evidence except what he said in the past when Melles told him about building the dam and he told him not a good idea. But again with his records, how everything he touches turns to ash, I didn’t think I was far off. And remember (he is the only one) other than Egypt and Sudan who didn’t sign the Nile Basin Initiative (I don’t know if Eritrea need to sign or not, it has just an observer seat).

            Anyway, what you said make sense.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Glad you found a critical thinker with logorrhea symptoms.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Man, you took what I said seriously. I am sorry I take it back. Off course you are as sharp as a tack.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Seriously?
            I take nothing seriously.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ras Abiy; I was in DC last week and one Eritrean older gentleman over heard him talking to his friend that the Name “Berhe” was a name of a cow or oxen in his village. I have no idea if this thing true but observing Berhe on this forum, his slowness; we might be dealing with a cow or oxen mentality as a form of human. So the question is that is it true Berhe is the name of a cow or oxen in some Eritrea’s villages?

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            Berhe means enlightenment, both physically (light, photons) and intellectually!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hashela; so it is not true? I mean is there any part of Eritrea where they name their cow or oxen Berhe? that is what I really wanted to know. Is that case, you can say the same thing to the name of Fanus, Brhan,Abrahet and so on.

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            Due to its gravity (weigth of meaning), Berhe is exclusively reserved for enlightened human-beings.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hashela so, you are saying it never used the name for a cow or oxen in any part of Eritrea, right? that is where I want to get to.

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            We have traditional codes/laws in all parts of Eritrea. These codes protect the use of cheered names. Berhe belong to these names. So I assure you Berhe was, is, will be never used for animals

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            “Cheered names”! That will be too difficult for him to decipher those culturally coded names. But to make him aware about it is not bad.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            thanks for constructively chiming in and forcefully re-enforcing the value of a pedagogical concept that emphasizes the positive aspect and inherent potential of all participants .

          • Nitricc

            Hey Hashela; what do you say to Sultan’s remark? At least come out say you were wrong. You know, you have credibility to maintain.

          • sara

            selam Hashela,
            you see…. the burden is on you and others on the know…….
            i think it is good chance to say something about Berhe Xa’eDa,
            maybe this way we can calm both Nitric and berhe.

          • Hashela

            ሳራ ሓብተይ

            This an excellent idea. It is well established that women have a better conflict solution capability. You just affirmed that.

          • Nitricc

            Berhe is exclusively reserved for enlightened human-beings.

            Hey Hashela; your defense tone aside; how come I don’t hear names Berhe in the new generation. I mean if that is so much revered name; I would have heard it in the new Eritrean generation but I don’t.

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            you know that revered things are used only for certain occasions.
            You don’t dress your best suit every day, do you?

          • Nitricc

            Hey Hashela; I will give you integrity test. would you name your son Berhe? Be honest! Personally I have never come across with any Eritrean whose name is Berhe. Now, the question you need to answer honestly is will you name your own son Berhe?

          • Abi

            Hello General
            Yosef Gebrehiwot has an article on current Eritrean names.
            Berhe is not one of them.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abiy; YG is an Agazian. What ever he said has no Bering. He is a lost individual, he doesn’t mean anything. He is Number one TPLF stooge. By the way are you saying Berhe is not an Eritrean name? Hashela will disagree with you .

          • Abi

            Hello General
            I agree with you YG is agazian.
            I was one of his admirers and defenders at this website.
            We live to learn.
            Berhe is a typical Eritrean name.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abiy it used to be, long time ago. That is all I am saying.

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitric

            YES

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hashela; I understand you can’t agonize your group and I understand your answer but if you ask me my honest take, There is no way you can name your own son Berhe the name the was given to animals 1960s; really Hashela? I understand I have put you on the spot, I get it.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            I know where you are going and why you asked the question. I think you are tying to say, because I am Berhe and the name Berhe is reserved for a cow or oxen, I should be a cow or oxen. Let’s say, I accept what you said. I know, how you are going to turn this:) I am trying to make you a winner.

            Do you know a name George for a person? Do you also know some people name their horse George, or their Dog or their bird. It doesn’t matter….

            Hashela gave you the meaning of the name (…now that should be enough for you.

            Ok you never heard an Eritrean named Berhe? May be you haven’t but it’s quite popular at least as people last name.

            I will give you few examples.

            Nat Berhe
            The only Eritrean who is in NFL, his name is Nat Berhe. I guess you didn’t know there is an Eritrean in the NFL.

            Vannessa Berhe
            The Eritrean activist from Sweden who is has been advocating for her uncle the photographer Seyoum Tsehaye. Mr. yesterday EPLF, today EPLF tomorrow EPLF.
            Do you know who took a lot of those black and white EPLF photos that you are so proud off? Guess who Seyoum, and Vannessa is his niece.

            Ruth Berhe
            She is popular musician from Alberta Canada, where her single song “Lost boy” went viral. Currently she has 126 million hits on her songs and she has 1.16 million subscribers on her youtube channel.

            I am limiting my self with topics that you may understand. But if you like to have an idea….

            why don’t you go to yellowpages.com and search Berhe and you have an idea.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            It looks like you are taking things seriously. You see you are falling in the traps.
            በርሄ ሆይ በሬ ሆይ
            ሣሩን አየህና ገደሉን ሳታይ

            ይላል ያገሬ ታዛቢ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I tried to give the benefit of the doubt, but alas. Now I am wondering, if he even understood what the man was talking about.

            He is the worst Eritrean wannabe imposter, I have come to know. I understand he may be Eritrean by blood, but there is nothing Eritrean about him.

            Berhe

          • Sultan M.G.

            Come on Berhe:
            Gen Nittric, the KING,knows what he is talking about,man.

            Aside from his typical American Youth style talk,he is right,for the most.
            He knows and he will dig more deep to know more,the subject matter very well..
            He owns an inquisitive mind/brain, not a one-celled brain,like your lost in the middle of no where friend claimed.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sultan,

            ሰብ ናብ ሰቡ፡ ዝብኢ ናብ ገርቡ ይብሉ አቦታትና፡፡ ከምዚ ናትካ ምስ ረኸቡ፡)

            Berhe

          • Sultan M.G.

            Ahlen Berhe:
            Humor prn is healthy
            I enjoy your conversation with Nittric and he knows that he is playing with you.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe fezaz: you just strength my argument. All the people you mentioned are last names, meaning it was acceptable to name your child Berhe before people realized it belonged to Animals and stopped it all together. I am not denying there are old people named Berhe all I am saying is people stopped naming their kids knowing it belonged to animals. How difficult is to understand my point. I am not saying you are an animal, all I am saying is I heard cows and oxen used to be named Berhe. Give me a young man who goes by the name of Bethe? Go in come up with one. I rest my case.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Holly molly Gen:

            You are an Excellent Comedian as well! Didn’t know that.I just can’t stop laughing…..
            Please, leave alone the poor Berhe.
            Love the the way you set up,encircle and trap Berhe.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Sultan; I never meant to degrade Berhe; I just shared what I heard people talk. I didn’t solicit for it. I was sitting in a restaurant
            minding my business but I can’t help but listen to two Eritrean gentlemen’s conversation. They were too laud to ignore their conversation. I share that with Abiy as taking a jab at Berhe in jokingly ways and Abbiy took offense and went azz kissing in defense of Berhe. Then Hashela came out swinging making photons out of free-radicals; telling me Berhe was reserved for intelligent people. Well you can accuse Berhe with everything but intelligence won’t be in the list. Then the rest followed. What is very interesting is, they are in a group with mentality of group thinking. Whenever they think their member of the group or their thinking is attacked, they will come at you with everything they got. Now, it would have been easy, short and educational if they come out and said what you have said, you explained it very well, that was good enough for me but no, the group must be defended. the whole point is, all this could have been avoided have they told me the truth. So, as you wish, I leave Berhe alone while I take the lesson the proximity between Berhe and an ox.lol

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sultan,

            I can’t believe you think he come out on top on this. His ignorance is limitless. Do you believe an Eritrean elder in public restaurant would say the name Berhe is reserved for a “cow or ox” loudly and this “toothless” can hear and understand him?

            When I gave him few examples and he said, those are last names and there is no “first names”. There is no last name concept in Eritrea, because for most people their last name is their fathers name. So this Eritrean elder, he is talking about people of his age who are named Berhe. I am sure he knows 1000 of them. It may be true that, the new generation do not use the name Berhe as they used to…but that’s the same for many of the traditional names…Kahsay, Tesfay, Hagos, Berhane, Habtom, Kiflom etc…is being replaced with biblical names… But it’s not because the name is reserved for “cows or an Ox”.

            I am the least concerned about what he said…and I was taking Hashela advice “never leave anyone behind approach” even the hopeless Nitric has home some day…. saay too tried to reform him many times because deep inside him, he may not be that bad a person…because every year predicts and hopes IA release political prisoner, implement the constitution and leave power peacefully…so that’s my reason as well….

            But he is so toothless, I remember one time when Daniel Teklehaymanot won the Polka Dot Jersey at the tour he said ” PIA now told them [cyclists] enough with Africa and go conquer Europe. He gave him all the credit for Eritrean cyclist doing good to IA.

            This is what smart people have called him before , I loved it then and I live it now.

            “He [Nitricc] also sucks in politics. Nitricc’s real calling in life is to translate toothless amharic poems from toothless people into toothless English so it can be read by toothless people. Also, Nitricc uses “toothless” more than the Big Lebowski uses “dude.”

            Abi, I know I write long but I am actually having fun:) reminding the “toothless” that he is always “toothless”.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe & Dr Hashela,

            I can’t stop laughing. “Berhe” is a cow or ox? It is hilarious! The guy is not a person who could learn. He is not familiar with Eritrean culturally coded names. If PFDJites are reading his comment, they must consider a one way ticket to Eritrea for him, to stay at least two years, in order not only to learn the highlanders’s typical names, but also to do national service.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Aman-H; what is you and the free tickets? I don’t sell my believes, honor and respect with a free ticket. Free ticket changed your core believes and make you stand against your country, People and that it ain’t so, my friend. Again yesterday EPLF, today EPLF and tomorrow EPLF. No amount of free tickets will change that. The sad story is smart people like you get a free ticket and lodges but like my friend ox gets nothing and still stands with and that is the real tragedy my friend. Again I am not saying Berhe is an animal but he thinks as such, if not smart people like wine and dine with free ticket my poor ox gets nothing. Sad. Nirticc is independent thinker and hates group thinking while despaices free tickets

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I never knew you could laugh.
            It is always good to have a good laugh.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ras Abi,

            You wouldn’t believe it if you see me in real life. You see Ras, it is all perceptional images you have in your mind.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I’m glad I was wrong.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            ኣይ ስሓቕ ኣይ ብኽያት ገሩና ዊዒሉ። እዚ ቀርቃር ዝራብዕ ጊንዲ ኣብ ክሳዱ አሲርካ ምጽራዩ ይሓይሽ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ዶ/ር ሓሸላ

            ግርም ዝሓወይ ዓኾይ ከመይ ገይሩ ንእንስሳ ዜቤት ከምዘርድዮም (ከምዘጽርዮም) አይረሳዕካዮን አሎኻ:

          • Hashela

            selam Amanuel

            Initially , I typed ምጽራይ, then I had concern that the urbanites will misunderstand the contextual meaning of the term and removed. It is good to know there is at least one person who understands me. The use of rural Language was intentional. ምዓት ወሩዱና ሳልሕ ምስ ቆልዑ አብ መኣዲ ቀሪቡና

          • Nitricc

            ምዓት ወሩዱና ሳልሕ ምስ ቆልዑ አብ መኣዲ ቀሪቡና

            Hi Hashela; You should come down from your high horses; because self- ostentatious is not part of my DNA, it does not mean anyone is with less credentials than yours. I know you guys been kissing each other’s behind as Doctor, professor and all That BS; it should not go over your head and advised to humble yourself. Trust me! take it easy.

          • Hashela

            Selam Nitricc

            Academic title doesn’t really matter. Have you seen me calling somebody Dr or Prof. No!

            What matter is, respecting each other and refraining from vocabularies that are used in the Adults film industry.

            ቆልዑ: this doesn’t apply to you. You are in your mid 30s, I guess.

            Respectfully

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hashela; reading your response to Aman-H; I didn’t think you were talking about age. It sounded to me about credentials and lack of knowledge. I don’t think so but If I understand you wrong; my bad and sorry.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            It is not about age only. It is about “maturity” and the way they talk and respect people. “Wisdom” and “humility” does not depend on education. It depend on how you are cultivated (the way you are nurtured) early on, when you are young. One who hasn’t gone through it, will see him or her saying repulsive language like him.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H no mature person sells it’s soul for a free air ticket. Maturity? Please! you are the last person to talk about civility and maturity. Now, I am asking you to live me alone, or else I grow like a fungus on you. You are nothing but national disgraced. Why don’t go to Meqqele? oh they can’t afford it, right, Professor? professor my foot.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            “እታ በላዕ ሳምቡ”. Thank you for the laugh.

            Urbanites are a unique subspecies of our Eritrean society

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            Do you know these guys? They are Gedowon Abay and Mussie Mesghena. Someone intercepted their email communication and brought it to Asmarino. com around 2000.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Prof. Emma,
            Next time you hear someone says that, tell them to tell to Kramer (on Seinfeld) and he will reply them with I love ሳንቡሳ 🙂

          • Hashela

            Selam Mehandis, Amanuel, Berhe

            A month ago I went to an Ethiopian restaurant and had the best
            ሳንቡሳ so far I can remember. I am a bit struggling to understand the negative association of consuming ሳንቡሳ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Dr. Hashela,
            I could be wrong but my assumption is a lot of Eritreans believe ሳንቡሳ is Muslim’s thing and they [those who degrade ሳንቡሳ] may think it is an insult (in their own weirdo way of thinking). I don’t think it is taste related. I never met someone who doesn’t like the taste of ሳንቡሳ. Not sure about its health though.

          • Hashela

            Selam Mehandis

            Thanks. This is an interesting interpretation that unfortunately seems to be consistent with other similar cases.

          • Hashela

            Selam Mehandis

            Speaking of food. You live in the Bay Area, right? I often come to the Bay Area. What is your recommendation regarding Eritrean and Ethiopian restaurants in SF

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Dr. Hashela,
            Why stay in SF when you are looking for Eritrean food? Drive for about 10 to 15 mins to Oakland and I can recommend few.
            For breakfast, please visit Alem’s cafe, for Fuul.
            Lunch/Dinner: we have Red Sea, Cafe Eritrea (I think is under renovation now), and Asmara Restaurant.
            However, no one beats my wife’s dishes and why pay? 🙂

          • Hashela

            Selam Mehandis

            Thank you for the kind invitation. Please say hello to “Letezghi”:)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Will do 🙂

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            Come on buddy! the negative connotation is not on the consumption of “ ሳንቡሳ”. However,
            I will leave it the Asmarinos to tell you.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            I apologize for my naivety and innocence! Mehandis provided an interesting interpretation.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Doctore,

            እወ ንፋሶም አይልከየና ናይ ምሁራት ደናቁር::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Nitricc,
            I don’t see anything wrong with calling people, Dr. Prof., General, etc.
            Just curious, I never seen you objecting when someone calling you General Nitrikay.
            BTW, I have worked in companies where the CEOs have never to college or drop out but those are very few.
            Those guys with PhDs, MD.s, etc., they have earned it. If you care for higher standard education, which I believe you do, this is an encouragement to the young. DOn’t you think so?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ዶ/ር ሓሸላ,

            ንሳልሕ’ዶ ከምቲ ናይ ኣቦታትና: እዚ ናይ ዓበይቲ ዝርርብ’ዩ ኢሎም ውጹ ዝብሉና ዝነበሩ: ውጹ በሎም’ዶ ክንብሎ ይመስለካ? ጉድ እንዲና ረኺብና: ምስ ዘይወርጸጹን ልቢ ዘየዕበዩን ቆልዑ እንዲና ሃውተት ንብል ዘለና:: ዘገርም’ዩ!

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኤማ ሓሸላ ወዘተረፈ፡

            ዓወተ እንዳ ምህረይ ሳልሕ ቃዲ፡ ሓንቲ ክፍሊ እያ ዘላታ። ዝተፈላለየ ክፍሊ የልቦን ስለዚ ተጸሚምኩም ተመሃሩ ምሃሩ። ዳዊት ክትደግሙ እንተደሊኹም ኣብቲ ኩርናዕ ኮፍ በሉ። ጸርፊ ክበዝሕ እንከሎ ሃለቃ ሳልሕ moderator ዝብልዋ ኩርማጅ ኣላቶም ሕቆ ዝሃርሙላ። ንዓኣ ተወከስዎም። የግዳስ ለዋህን ዓቃልን ስለዝኾኑ ጫውጫው ይነዝሕ ይኸውን።

          • Hashela

            Nitricc

            I love your extremely dry humor, I admire your patriotism, I understand you love to provoke, sometimes you type faster than you can think. Do you know who በርሄ ጻዕዳ was?

          • Nitricc

            Hey Hashela; it is all good. And yes, I read and heard about the brave Berhe TsaEda. The real lion of Naqfa. Let him RIP. He did his job.

          • Sultan M.G.

            General:
            The gentleman and you are correct. We used to have oxen named Berhe and Berih but for a good reason ( Dr Hashela’s contextual definition).
            I also have a nephew called Berhe and a brother-in-law named Berih.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Sultan; thank you sir. it is amazing how a simple question turned in two huge grouped thinking and azz kissing event. All said was what I over heard between to Eritrean convo. They were talking about names one of them, the older gentle man mentioned that the name Berhe was used for oxen or cow. group thinking is the worst disease. I think the two main hurdles for Africa is group thinking and social injustice. Because to get justice you need to be a member that group. Anyway thanks Sultan. At least I have a good idea why Berhe was named after oxen; very expressive and unambiguous.

          • Berhe Y

            Thank you Dr. Hashela.

            Like they say “This too shall pass”.

            Dear Dr. Hashela,

            Like Saay have said, Isayas will be gone, but we have to deal with cleaning the debris. Nitricc and his likes are some of the debris we have to deal with.

            In light of these, do you think, people like you who are in academia and professionals in different fields (at least those in Diaspora) should start thinking and creating conferences and database of Eritrean talents that will be deployed when the times comes. In other words creating and organizing professional society, and start creating documents, guidelines and frame works that will be used for the future.

            Thanks to the Internet, today more than ever, collaboration, organization, virtual conferences are possible and may be we should start preparing now.

            We are consumed with day to day political aspects of our people and our country, we lose sight what happens on “Day 1” when he is gone.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            You are mixing Saay with Sir Amde.
            Pay attention.

          • Nitricc

            Hahaha; since when do you know an ox paying attention? Good luck with your domestic training.

          • Abi

            Hello General
            In the book “ Of Kings and Bandits” there is a very poor farmer and his family who has only one cow.
            I asked the author what happened to the oxen? I was expecting a farmer to own at least a pair of oxen unless this poor farmer uses tractor to farm his piece of land . The good author told me to use my imagination.
            I think I found at least one of the oxen. The other remains elusive by changing names.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hey Abi,
            I feel like you are pointing to my direction 🙂
            About ten yrs ago I had joined a stealth (not any more) start up company. On my first day, during introduction, one lady told me she has a cat with same name as mine. I tell you, I was kind of pissed off but then I found out she was telling the truth.
            Few yrs forward, that same lady reported to a guy who reports to me. During yearly review, I still had some feelings but my hands were tied up because she was a high performer 🙂
            my name is one of those old testament names and any name can be used for Pets or any any animals 🙂

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Engineer Abraham,

            How is Sara? 🙂

          • Abi

            ጋሽዬ
            I went to school with a girl named ሣራ ነጋ::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Sara is doing fine, Prof. Hailat! 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam MM
            Your name must be Thomas .
            Tom ( the cat) and jerry is my all time favorite cartoon.
            It is a great story. Glad you kept your professional integrity.
            I have noticed your cat behavior in the past. You got pissed off easily.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hey Abi,
            That’s what they tell me from time to time…hot headed. Not my fault, blame the creator 🙂

          • Abi

            Hello MM
            እንደው ይህ የአብርሀም አምላክ ምን ፈረደበት!! ሁሉም እየተነሳ ይከሰዋል::

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hey Abi,
            If we give the creator credit for all those good stuff, I would say he is responsible for the not good stuff as well.
            BTW, just remembered a neighbor had a dog named Einstein few years ago. Amazingly, the dog had some kind of similarity 🙂

          • Abi

            Hello MM
            Dogs and their owners look similar through time.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            He said Old Testament names. I think Samson.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            የኔ ነገር ስንቀዠቀዥ ጉድ ሆንኩልህ::

          • Abi

            Hello General
            All I know is Berhe is a voice of reason. I’m honestly honored to call him a ሃውና.
            Now I don’t know if the cows and oxen in Eritrea have Tigrinya names.
            It is a great opportunity for you to go and check it out for yourself.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abiy; I just forwarded you what I have heard but I really don’t give a flying hoot if Berhe is your father. When I have berhe to study in here why would I go anywhere? the guy a dumb as rock. people take it easy. I hate when people kiss some once behind.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Berhe:
            “logorrhea. If someone’s always mouthing off and just can’t shut up, they’ve got logorrhea…“!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horizon and Ras Abiy; May be this is what Ethiopia needs. If Egypt keep harassing Ethiopia, May be this will bring Ethiopians together. May be this is a cure for this nasty Ethnicity, Killil and religious BS that was implemented by the TPLF thugs. I think this could work to benefit Ethiopia. One Advice though; make sure you sidelined the TPLF thugs. They will cooperate with Egypt and hit you from Inside. I was listening To Fetelwork, Monjorino what ever is here name and she was saying ” “we” will meet when we are going up while “they” are going down. She still thinks TPLF thugs are coming to power.

          • Selam Nitricc,
            As you said, this is the silver lining of the whole issue. Indeed, it will bring together all Ethiopians. Even jawar came out and said that refusing to sign the agreement by the Ethiopian government was the right thing to do. Dr. DT on his part said that Ethiopia should be exceptionally careful of the wordings of the document so that the wuchale phenomenon is not repeated. In general terms the political parties seem to agree on the measures taken by the government.
            As much as the Ethiopian diaspora in the USA is concerned, they have approached senator Jessy Jackson who plans to write a petition with the help of other afro-American senators. Ethiopian intellectuals have come together in force and they are communicating with USA senators, white and afro-Americans. The general opinion of all Ethiopians within and outside the country is not to sign the agreement under any circumstances whatsoever, come rain or sunshine.
            What Dr. DT said at the celebration of the battle of Adwa was much better than cheap politics he could have said.
            The documents of the agreement were in actual fact prepared by Egypt and adopted by trump. One can see the big conspiracy by al Sisi and the trump administration.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Berhe; where did you get the data? I did not see and quotes or sources. You are too dumb and stupid to compile that kind of data. So stop plagiarizing. If you were an Eritrean, you could have understand the amount of military personal and weapons does not matter. Eritrean fight for the independence is a lesson but you are too dumb to know and understand that.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitric (Hangol derho),

            You really like to me to call you names…
            “where did you get the data? I did not see and quotes or sources.”.

            Suppose I didn’t provide the source, it’s common sense and common courtesy, you would ask me to provide the source. But enda hgdf you have none of that…except sidnet.

            No body in his right mind, except you. the one celled brain dead Tantu can think I pretend to come up with those figures.

            But I this is what I said anyway “I found this website global firepower dotcom. And here is their military capabilities, see below.“.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; if it is not enough being Aqatary; now you got caught in plagiarism. I know you won’t get it but always display your sources. Ebet alu Amara.

          • Berhe Y

            Hangol derho,

            This is my source “global firepower dotcom”. You can’t get this…

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I always wonder if Hangol derho is larger than Sultan’s kingdom?

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam Nitricc
      After listening the ethiopian foreign and water ministers and after listening egyption foreign minister, what i understand is, ethiopia don’t want to sign a deal before she start filling the dam (Gerd) . just to tell egyption “u can’t do nothing and can’t tell us nothing about the resources that is in ethiopia sovereign territory” and i think there will not be deal to sign before ethiopia start filling the dam, before next ethiopian year (2013ec)”t’ekemet”.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Teddy; I am just amazed at how fast the USA turned its back at Ethiopia. 70 to 80 years of diplomacy and friendship between USA and Ethiopia was thrown out just like that. I think all African countries should follow Eritrea’s time tested principal; “lean to no one”
        At the end of day, the water is in Ethiopia and in Ethiopian land. You need to do what you have to do. you got to stand-up though.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Nitricc
          I think USA and ethiopia diplomatic relations started about 120 years ago, right after the victory of adaw.
          The way i understood is, ethiopia wants to delay the signing of the deal for the purpose i said above.
          And diplomacy is always has been like this and it doesn’t mean USA turned its back at ethiopia, i think they want to use al sisi like they used anwar sadat for thier purpose to sale Jerusalem and Palestinian to isreal.
          After camp David agreement between isreal and anwar sadat , egypt was able to receive aid 2.5-3 billion dollars from USA every year.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy;I think the US turned its back at Ethiopia. I mean there is no other way to put it. The US is completely with Egypt. They are not even trying to hid it. I don’t think this thing will lead to war but Yesterday Al sisi met with top military commanders and I don’t like the harassing and boosting to pressure Ethiopia. In your opinion, at what point do you think this thing could go to war?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I will go 5% , but bragging doesn’t make egypt strong or being silent doesn’t make ethiopia weak.

          • Nitricc

            bragging doesn’t make egypt strong or being silent doesn’t make ethiopia weak

            well said. If PIA was Ethiopian leader; Ethiopia would have already in war. Some times, especially with Arabs, you got be aggressive and be tenacious. I don’t see any agitation by the government of Ethiopia to ready up the people to any eventuality. I think as any leader you need to get ready your people to any ifs. Al sisi is doing it, why not Ethiopia? it could have helped Ethiopia and Ethiopians to get a break from TPLF made ethnic and religion tensions.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            Again being silent doesn’t mean ethiopia is not ready, i know for sure ethiopia have the same air defense systems that protected syria from USA air attack.
            and it is between egypt, sudan and ethiopia, nothing to do with the whole of Arabia, i also know for sure a lot of arab countries is with ethiopia side , like Algeria, Qatar and even i believe UAE and Saudi r neutral.

          • Nitricc

            i know for sure ethiopia have the same air defense systems that protected syria from USA air attack.

            Hey Teddy; you missing the point. You may have the weapons but at the end of the day, the people who got fight and protect. You need to ready up the masses mentality and readiness. If Suyum Mesfin can rally you in Mesqel square on lies and deceits, what is the harm preparing the people with some rallies and Zeraf-Zeraf things. I see no harm. in fact it could serve a deterrent mechanism for Egypt.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            Yes it is easy to do rallies and say zeraf zeraf but it doesn’t change the game . the game is ur capabilities to defend urself and it’s not a time to do rallies and say zeraf zeraf, they r not yet at war.
            Egyption zeraf zeraf shows they r in defense position.

  • sara

    selam ethiopians in this forum,
    congratulation on your Adwa day….

    • Thanks a lot, sara.
      I think that you are the only lady remaining at awate.com and we want you to stay put in order to adorn the website and contribute with your insightful comments.

      • sara

        selam ato horizon…
        most well come, btw… there are many i know who read awate but do not participate in discussions for varied reasons .
        this day i think is a symbol of unity of Ethiopians and i hope it helps heal
        the situation we hear about this days. i am sure this is a wish of all peace loving Eritreans and Africans.

  • Sultan M.G.

    Hi :
    “natnael-tesfazion-eritrea-crowned-tour-de-rwanda-2020-champion/“!
    Source:
    The New Times of Rwanda
    https://twitter.com/rbarwanda/status/1234089339103084544?s=20

    • mokie berhe

      Salam Sultan M.G. Incredible are the Eritrean cyclists!

  • Sultan M.G.

    Hello:
    https://www.tesfanews.net/natnael-tesfazion-eritrea-crowned-tour-de-rwanda-2020-champion/
    Source:By Peter Kansa, The New Times and Rwanda Broadcasting Corp.

  • Sultan M.G.

    Happy Sunday:
    Enjoy my cousin, a new Eri Star:
    https://www.facebook.com/100015532388893/posts/719722461888827/?d=n

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat Awate,
    So, it is true HGDF has synchronized the ንሕና-ንሱ with ነፍጠኞች and working hand in hand to destabilize the opposition.

    Hint: they write one liner to pretend as opposition to this cruel በጋሚዶ ናይ ዓዲ ሃሎ [እምባ ገደም ይግዕዝ ኣሎ ኢሎሞ btw] and the whole ሓተታ on opposing the opposition.
    I have always wondered if these people have already sold their soul.

    • Abi

      Hello M M
      I volunteer to enlighten you on the “opposing the opposition” that you seem to be excited about.
      OTTO ( Opposition To The Oppositions) was an acronym that was coined awhile ago. In other words it is not something you discovered.
      It was your trusted tplf dismantled the opposition parties. The ነፍጠኞች have never been involved in the making and breaking up of the opposition parties.
      Only ንፍጣሞች like to bring ነፍጠኞች in the equation every time they they hit a wall.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Hi Abi,
        Did I hit a nerve?
        I have never claimed OTTO, because it is just a term. If I had tell you what I have invented, you would pie in your pants. So, I am not that cruel to spell it to you 🙂
        About ነፍጠኞች, I am glad you figured it out that you are ONE of them. After all, you are not that slow 🙂

        • Hashela

          Selam Mehandis

          It seems today is a Bloody Sunday.

          On the constructive side:
          I speculate that your work includes signal transmission and processing in a broader sense. Anything that we can use to irritate በቅሊ እንዳቦይ ኣሰያስ?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Dr. Hashela,
            I wish I could send you a video of me laughing like a baby! 🙂

          • Hashela

            I hope you don’t accuse me of sabotaging the opposition by making them unnecessarily laugh

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dr. Hashela,
            It is an idea to entertain of 🙂

          • Hashela

            Yes, It is good to have a break from FF transformation and wavelet analyses

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Dr. Hashela,
            You are taking me to my comfort zone, however it has been a while since I revisited these topics. Even though I almost daily apply FF.

        • Abi

          Hello MM
          How about if you take a coffee break from taking inventory of your inventions and pay attention for a change.
          It is your almighty tplf that was experimenting with your opposition groups using them as play dough.
          Making them and breaking them, mixing them, etc etc etc.
          ነፍጠኞች like ልዑል ራሥ አቢ were at the corner watching the show and enjoying the popcorn. Do not bring them here.
          Now, I don’t have to invent anything to make you soil your pants. The very mention of ነፍጠኛ will rush you to the toilet for a quick diaper change.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ጋሽ ኣቢ
            I guess you were not invited to Nadew-Ez or Wqaw-Ez party? Or you were sent to Asmara to buy some ኩሳኩስት? No wonder you have survived. Lucky you!
            You had missed the unforgettable dance! Or were you one of those deported without shoes and respect, at the zero hours?

          • Abi

            Hello MM
            Your above ዝባዝንኬ is officially registered as your invention.
            You must be the only inventor who is still bragging about those Illegally and inhumanly deported Ethiopians while the victors of wqaw and their children are used as spare parts.
            As I said before ናደው የናደው ኤርትራን ብቻ ነው::
            ውቃው እየወቃ ያለው ኤርትራውያንን ብቻ ነው::
            You are busy inventing and bragging while disappearing from the face of the earth.
            Keep dancing…

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Abi,
            Not yet! That is the wish of the cruel traitor in Adi Halo’s followers + the ነፍጠኞች.
            Once we raise up, again, these two groups (which both King HS admirers), will disappear, like they never existed.
            Speaking of disappearance, your country is heading to the cliff. So, there is high possibility that your country will reach the finishing line ahead of hours. Then, you can thank both our evil guy and yours!

          • Abi

            Hello MM
            Ok

  • Selam All,

    Ethiopia is again at a crossroad. Egypt and its Western allies are once more plotting against Ethiopia’s national interest on the blue Nile. The trump administration is standing fully with the Egyptian government by supporting its position on the Nile. The USA government said that Ethiopia should not start filling the dam unless it reaches an agreement with the other two countries, thus blocking the way for Ethiopia and supporting Egypt and Sudan. In other words, Ethiopia can have her dam, but an empty dam that produces no electricity for her people. Moreover, it congratulated Egypt for signing the agreement prepared by the USA government that fully supports the position of Egypt. The American side more or less wants to guarantee Egypt’s lion’s share as per the 1929 and 1959 unilateral agreement that did not include Ethiopia. In addition, Egypt is made to have an important role in the management of the dam, which more or less makes the Ethiopian dam an Egyptian one.
    No other American administration ever existed that was so unethical, unjust and incompetent like the trump administration. Ethiopia should therefore refuse to accept anymore any role the trump administration may plan to play, whatever the cost, because it is untrustworthy, incompetent, unethical and unjust.

    • Hashela

      Selam

      As a black African, I am disappointed by the news. I am curios how this American siding and PMAA’ response/position will influence the upcoming Ethiopian election.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Horizon,

      What was the motivation for Ethiopia to agree to the US mediation.

      I didn’t think the crisis has reached a crisis point for Abiy to rush to agree to the US mediation.

      Ethiopia could have held, to the last minute by refusing to negotiate if it doesn’t meet its demands.

      The ball was always on Egypt court to find a wining solution, specially since Sudan was on Ethiopia side. Basically Egypt had only two options:

      1) come up with a plan / agree to a deal that satisfy Ethiopia.
      2) use military means to sabotage or slow down the dam build.

      Ethiopia has nothing to lose but keep building, until someone stops it by force, which was very unlikely option for Egypt.

      Why Ethiopia gives gives up its wining hands?

      I thought may it run out if money, and someone promised (may be Saudi Arabia) to finance it?

      Or could it be Abiy another naivety?

      Berhe

      • Selam Berhe Y.,
        In the past i had said that Ethiopia was dammed if she agreed and equally dammed if she didn’t, with the plan to make trump and his administration observers, which ended up with trump and the WB becoming negotiators on the side of Egypt. That was the plan by al Sisi and trump, two friendly dictators. We knew such things could happen, but not entirely certain. If Ethiopia refused, trump would have had a free ride to condemn Ethiopia and stand against her interest. At least now Ethiopia can make a move out of the negotiations by condemning trump’s administration partisan role. If poor Ethiopia had refused the role of the narcissistic and Nobel Peace Prize obsessed trump, she could have been his prey, and Ethiopia would have been characterized as the party that doesn’t look for a negotiated settlement, thus demonizing Ethiopia.
        Ethiopia knew all the time that Sudan was not to be trusted, as it proved itself to be.
        Trump wants to bribe Egypt with the GERD so that his plan of the century for the Palestinian people, as he calls it, which condemns Palestine not to become a viable state and selling Jerusalem as the capital city of the state of Israel to Arab leaders, passes the litmus taste.
        I don’t think that money is the main problem. Ethiopia could have found money somehow and somewhere, for example, China. On the contrary, it is the trump administration that wants its sugarcoated poison to go down easily by promising billions in aid money for Ethiopia.
        Nevertheless, even now it doesn’t mean that the game is lost for Ethiopia. She will continue to build the dam and finish it, and she will start filling the dam the coming rainy season, rain or sunshine. At the same time she will continue the negotiations if the other party wants it, because the filling period is going to take years.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Horizon,

          I don’t know if Ethiopia should have agreed to be pawn in Trump games. I still think, it would been better if it refused to involve the US.

          If you think Ethiopia agreed because of US pressure, now imagine the pressure if it refuses his plan.

          Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y,
            It is said that a group of ethiopians, consisting of experts in international law, dams, world politics, transboundary rivers, etc, from within the country and from the diaspora are said to be working day and night to formulate ethiopia’s own position on how the agreement should be, and its implementation. Whether the other parties will accept it or not is a different matter. Nevertheless, at least we can say that ethiopia will have her own position known not only to the interested parties, but also to the world community, and she can stick to it. This, i think is the right way to face the trio trump + WB + egypt.
            What could the trio do in the instance ethiopia says it will never sign the agreement prepared by the usa to serve egypt’s interest? Can egypt risk war? I don’t think so, because the cost in its economy, in human life and destabilization of the al sisi government will be immense, and finally with no benefit for egypt because its wish will never materialize however it tries. Therefore, egypt has no other choice but to finally reach a mutually beneficial agreement for all parties, and forget the irrational narrative that the Nile belongs to Egypt. The other point is what trump may do to help Egypt, which will expose him before the world community. This may push Ethiopia to go completely with China, and it will diminish usa influence in the horn of Africa, or most probably, it will do nothing other than to withhold the said aid money. I am sure that the EU will not support the outrageous trump’s position on the Nile..

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            If you let a country to be lead by “ሓሰውቲ መሲሓውያን” and unprincipled leaders, it is naturally the country will slides in to a perpetual chaotic political atmosphere, and eventually becomes the pawn of foreign interferences. Ethiopian has lost all its leverage in the international stage in less than two years. Ethiopian development is halted because of the insecurity in the peripheries regions of the state. Dismantling the “front-party” that hold the “unity and security” of the country and avoiding “developmental state” of economic development was the strategy of US in Ethiopia. Abiy become instrumental to their strategy and the causes of all to the situations we are witnessing today. Those who are clapping when Abiy said (a) that they were in the darkest era in the last 27 years (b) Derg wasn’t defeated, they should not complain on what they are witnessing today.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,

            Let me ask you a question? Do you think that Abiy should do what MZ did in 2000? Should he sign a “final and binding” agreement, and later backtrack on the agreement, for which ethiopia is still in a political quagmire due to this betrayal, or should he refuse to sign? In 1998 Ethiopia was attacked by an aggressor – she sacrificed tens of thousands of her young to drive out the aggressor – only that mz was too happy to sign a final and binding agreement, without any preconditions whatsoever as a victim of aggression, and ethiopia lost everything at the Hague. You should remember, tplf lied to the ethiopian people by saying that badme was awarded to ethiopia, and MZ never respected what he signed. Do you want to see that type of agreement?
            You found again a good chance to accuse Abiy and whitewash and propagandize mz/tplf’s 27 yrs of dictatorship as you always do. It is unbelievable that you are lamenting the demise of tplf so much. What would you have done if you were a tigrayan and not an eritrean?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            I am arguing on behalf of the successful organization “EPRDF” and its vision for the destitute Ethiopia people. Their vision for the poor Ethiopian was three meals a day. Their vision was to produce more educated class in Ethiopia. Their vision was to produce more middle class than millioners. Their vision was to lay infrastructure throughout the country (Railways and roads). Their vision was to transform Ethiopia to an industrial country like the Asian tigers (eg the industrial parks and the METEC). Their vision was to lead Africa in the international stage. Their vision was to make Addis the hoop of international conferences that promote Africa. Their vision was to build dams that generate hydroelectric power to transform your economics. And all in those aforementioned visions, they have shown significant outcome in two decades, unforeseen by African standard. Very impressive and appreciated by the international community. EPRDF has failed only in opening political space for the opposition and I have criticized them. And after the death of PMMZ corruption became rampant within EPRDF that become that become subject of criticism, and should be.

            Horizon, the way out should have been (a) to clean the political house of EPRDF and not dismantle it (b) to continue the vision of EPRDF and not switch in the middle of development by the push of foreign interest (c) to slowly open the political space and not let anarchism to overtake security and stability (d) to have reflexive diplomacy to maintain your stature in the region and international stage and not to be lead by unexperienced individual who understood “politics and diplomacy” as teaching of love.

            Now what can be done when your country is at a crossroad? You need (a a solid and strong organization like “EPRDF” that saved Ethiopia from disintegration when power vacuum was created after the defeat of Derg (b) a “front party” that has clear vision that (i) balance freedom and security (ii) balance democracy and security (c) that reinstate the “developmental state” and its economic strategy to transform your country to an industrial economy (d) elect a strong and a tested leader who hold the center of gravity at center and who could be trusted by the peripheries (the kilils) – one who balance the centripetal and centrifugal forces of the Ethiopian state.

            Lastly, wayane-wayane day in day out like the EPFDJites will not help you and your country to get remedy to your political ailments. Again I reminded you to support EPRDF is not to support TPLF, though TPLF is one from the fronty-Party. I believed that for a country with multicultural society (like Ethiopia), with deep mistrust among their social groups, the only way to govern them peacefully is by forming a “front-parties”- an alliance of parties from the social groups to mitigate the mistrust and reinforce the unity of the country. When the harmony of the social groups maintained, political reformism and transformational change can be introduced incrementally. There is no path to real change without passing through this stage. I hope this will help you from calling me names. Have a good one.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,

            If you tell me that the eprdf was a group of equals among equals, and tplf was not more equal than others, i would find that difficult to believe. Vision is not the real thing until fulfilled. Most of the things you mentioned above remained a vision and were never accomplished, e.g. most ethiopians did not afford three meals a day, etc,
            If tplf says that developmental state, revolutionary democracy and ethnic federalism (the brain children of tplf) is the only way forward for ethiopia today, tomorrow and always, and others do not accept it, what is there for tplf other than either to fight the other group to make them change their mind, which is impossible, or part from them, which will put tplf in permanent contradiction with all the rest. Is it completely impossible for tplf to work with others unless they accept what tplf wants? Or, can it ever work with others one way or the other, either by merging, or by keeping its unique political ideology as others are doing, but finding a working protocol? Any party that wins elections implements its program. Can tplf do that through democratic ways or is revolution the only way as much as it is concerned?
            You are advising ethiopians to work for an eprdf-like organization and find a tested leader. How do you imagine these two? Do you expect tplf to be at the center of the organization as before, and do you see Dr DT as that tested leader? If tplf comes back with its old baggage, i don’t think that anybody will accept it, and as long as tplf is dogmatic in its ideological views, such possibility as you said above seems remote. More or less you are telling ethiopians to backtrack to the old situation, they changed with a big sacrifice.
            It is not the change that is at fault, but the legacy of the past political system that separated the people instead of bringing them together, created a superior ethnic group preaching equality at the same time, brought economic inequality through corruption, tramped on human rights, etc. Is it possible to go back to the past? Why not find a middle way? Why should we be so dogmatic?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            Few things: (a) if the front wasn’t among equals, you change it to be among equals. You don’t dismantle a successful front (b) vision is a broad concept and a long strategy with many goals to attain them at different stages you fight for and not a fulfilled one (c) the constitution as is : was drafted by constitutional commission lead by they well known Ethiopian Technocrat Kifle Wedojo, and is not by TPLF or EPRDF (c) the current Federalism is wanted by Oromo people, Sidama people, the Tigray people, the Somali people, the Afari people …etc and I don’t know who don’t want it, may be the Amara (d) the EPRDF like front I am looking alliance among equals and not TPLF centered. Look while I am talking about a way out idea, you are only talking about TPLF (e) I am talking about ideological idea that might work for Ethiopia, and you are talking how to remove a party from the center one way or the other (f) it is not a backtrack to the old, but it correcting the old wrongs and continue with the same vision for development (g) if you are against the formation of “nations and nationalities” of “autonomous states” Federal system you are against history. Once the autonomous state tasted how to govern themselves, they will not go back to be controlled by central government. Think only how to improve the shortcoming and not to take the states rights.

            Lastly, could you share your vision, on the structure of the government you want to see, the alternative economic path Ethiopia should pursue, and how states should be formed be it for unitary government or Federal government based on the current relationships of the Ethiopian social groups and Ethiopian sociopolitical forces?

          • Selam Amanuel H.,

            I don’t think that i am the right person to tell you how states are formed. Nevertheless, in my opinion the type of government, or the type of economic policy implemented, is not a panacea. As long as Ethiopians remain power-addicted, distrustful among themselves, there is no democracy, and corruption is rampant, nothing is going to work.
            If ethnic groups are going to kill each other for land at their ethnic borders, which never happened in the past, and mistrust creates animosity and ethnic states have become unapproachable enclaves, where other ethnic groups have lost the right to live in security, as we are already seeing, why do we insist that ethnic federalism is functioning perfectly well, when it is not. Ethno-nationalism as opposed to the common Ethiopian nationalism has brought Ethiopia to the verge of destruction, and yet you say it is a perfect formula for Ethiopia, which of course, you never prescribe for Eritrea. You are telling Ethiopians, divided you will continue to exist, together you will disappear, when you say that ethnic federalism is the only medicine for Ethiopia. This is disingenuous in my opinion. I really doubt if there was genuine self rule or a decentralized government under tplf/eprdf. The government was centralized and the regional States were indirectly controlled by those who controlled the center.
            In southern states where there are a plethora of ethnic groups, each one of them is asking for its own ethnic enclave. I doubt they will be sustainable. On the contrary, there are many more examples of successful cases of regional federalism than ethnic federalism. Ethnic federalism has the history of breaking up a country, eg. the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. These at least were former states that continue to survive after the breakup. In Ethiopia’s case none of the ethnic states can survive alone economically and politically, unless Ethiopian elites want their own fiefdom where they want to become emperors as dr. DT did. Therefore, i wouldn’t rule out regional federation in the future as many countries are implementing it and are prospering.
            There may come a time when Ethiopians will open their eyes and see that identity politics is not a panacea, and living with others is not impossible, when we know that they live without any problem whatsoever with different peoples all over the world. They can prosper much more United than separated.
            Ethiopians may no longer live in the past, nevertheless, the past has not left them, which affects the level of their human development index in a negative way.
            When corruption has eaten at the heart of the Ethiopian economy which left behind about 50 billion dollars in debt, why do we say that developmental state was a success story? When you people say there was corruption in the tplf/eprdf government, but not corrupt tplf officials, and those behind bars are due to their ethnicity and not due to the crimes they committed, how can this country move forward? It is only the supporters of tplf who say that ethiopia was a paradise under tplf, they seem to say that tplf is right even if it is wrong, and the sky is falling in ethiopia after tplf lost power.
            As much as the economic policy is concerned, the developmental state has worked in South East Asia but failed in Ethiopia. The same could be said about liberal economic policy. It has succeeded in some countries and failed in others. Whether any economic policy will succeed in Ethiopia or not depends on how much Ethiopians continue to be corrupt people or not. It is not black or white, developmental state works – liberal economic policy doesn’t work.
            We have seen the merits and drawbacks of developmental state. While government officials filled their pockets the majority of ethiopians didn’t have the three meals a day as promised. On the contrary, Ethiopians were taught how to become corrupt as their leaders. Therefore, instead of insisting on failed policies, why not try the new trend Ethiopia wants to follow in its economic policy? No one has the truth on his side. It may work where the other has failed. Nobody knows.
            Therefore, we can’t say that it is anathema if Ethiopia implements regional federalism and liberal economic policy, when the previous ones have failed or have become dysfunctional.
            Finally, if individual rights guarantee group rights, or the other way round, group rights guarantee individual rights, is still an unanswered question in Ethiopia. It seems that this is the reason the herd mentality (my tribe, my ethnic group) remains so important in the Ethiopian society, and in the whole region.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            Clean argument. Please keep it like that despite we don’t see eye to eye on the subject at hand. You asked me why I don’t prescribe the same Federalism to Eritrea. Because (a) there is no deep mistrust like yours with in our social groups (b) you are more diversified than ours (c) there are “nations” with big size and large population that could administer autonomously (d) most of our social groups are not concentrated in one specific areas. Putting all these in to equation, you will find out that the needs of structured administration will be different for the two countries. If India can govern with such kind of Federalism which by the way India is more diversified than yours, why not Ethiopia? The Ethiopian elites must compromise on how honestly implement it. Again keep your argument clean like this.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            The problem with ur argument is, u based ur argument on false and biased information.
            A, there is no deep mistrust between ethiopian people different than any countries in tge world, it is in ur head and ethnic poltics is the one makes it look like there is big mistrust.
            B,if u take population ratio, ethiopia is not different than any other diversed countries, except border area people of ethiopia, ethiopians is highly intertwined and mixed people.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Horizon:
            Why are trying to convince someone who doesn’t want to be?
            I will never comprehend this guy and his politics!
            This is the same person, who still adores PMMZ and his fascist Group,who:
            -Jointly destroyed his own “ Progressive and Democratic”Front, the ELF

            -Deported 100,000 Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin

            -Led to the near destruction of Eritrea thru sanctions,sabotages,No War No Peace Policy and through containment, isolation ….,which he supported fully and has been an enabler of the destructive agenda by the TPLF

            -Who controlled and corrupted everything and every asset and economy Ethiopia could provide Ethiopians with besides controlling every institution and departments of the Security,Intelligence Military,Police besides controlling every Economic Sector and finances up to embezzling close to $30 billion over 10 years.( a well documented fact)

            -Led to the animosity among Ethiopians thru its well designed ethnic based Federalism… ,not to mention the atrocities same regime COMMITTED against Ethiopians in particular and the Horn people in general.
            His justification:
            The same as that of TPLF and its Leadership.
            He conveniently uses the term EPRDF,not the TPLF .

            This guy et all do NOT have any moral ground to accuse Dr AAA under any pretext …while fully knowing that his buddies are destabilizing Dr AAA’s through all kinds of sabotages and obstacles …. OFFICIALLY and PUBLICLY!
            Thee should be a serious reason for him et al to act blindly as such…. beyond a Free Ticket!

            Note:
            He was allegedly hand-picked by PMMZ to represent the EDA in the USA.
            Go figure it out.

          • Nitricc

            “Note:
            He was allegedly hand-picked by PMMZ to represent the EDA in the USA. Go figure it out.”

            Hey Sultan; really?????? That will explain everything. No wonder why the guy cried for years due to the death of the midget. The dead midget left the country in to choke ready to explode yet, this dude trying to present this dead midget as principled and vision leader. The question I am fighting with is, how is it a free ticket, worth $1200 can somebody sell his principals and sells his soul? I mean how? How can he sleep?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I bet this guy is not eritrean, he might born and grow up in eritrea from tigrai mother and father but to begin with he is not eritrean, his hate to eritrea and ethiopia is a prove, he is not just hating the political parties but the people and the country too.he is tplf more than the tplf themselves, he is pretending eritrean tigraian just like most guys in this forum.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Teddy; well he is fooling who wants to be fooled. The guy takes TPLF, he defends TPLF, and most discombobulating is he thinks the dead midget is a visionary one. The guy is corrupted to the core .

          • Sultan M.G.

            Respected Major General:
            SGJ confirmed to us,which most of us knew,that this guy was the EDA( The Eritrean Democratic Alliance)Rep in N America during those “ sexy days”,which he might have been eligible to be so but…,
            The love affairs he has ENJOYED with and shown to the blood enemies of Eritrea is but worrisome …

            None of my business since he is entitled to have his own opinion but he cannot have his own facts.

            I said “ Allegedly”handpicked up by PMMZ( “ RIP”),since I could not have confirmed it but the circumstantial EVIDENCE has been in front of your eyes.

          • Abi

            Hello Ato Amanuel
            ይህ ስቶኮልም ሲንድሮም የሚባል በሽታ ስዊድኖችን ብቻ የሚያጠቃ ይመስለኝ ነበር:: ለካስ ይህ ክፉ በሽታ ለአበሻም አይመለስም::
            እግዚአብሔር ምህረቱን ያውርድልዎ ከማለት በቀር ምን ይባላል?
            አያድርስ ነው አቦ!

          • Nitricc

            Rad Abiy; I am so mad at Hahsela; how I failed to come up what that term . what I couldn’t believe is how a free ticket could go that far??? Anyone with the right mind cannot and won’t say what a person with a free ticket is saying. The question is how is possible for a person to sell his soul for a free ticket?

          • Abi

            Hello General
            Some people will give up everything including their soul (ያልታደለች ነፍስ) to attend a woyane sponsored meetings in every major city in Ethiopia.
            Free airfare
            Free lodging
            Free washing ( I mean brainwashing)

            In Ethiopia we send these kind of people to አማኑኤል ሆስፒታል for the mentally disturbed.

          • Nitricc

            hey Ras Abiy; not only that he lies. He keep saying “ I supported EPDRF, not TPLF” I mean selling your soul for a free ticket is one thing but why lie? He knows very well TPLF paid his ticket not EPDRF.
            For me the breaking point was when he declared that The EEBC decision was wrong for awarding Badime for Eritrea. I mean you cannot get more digital weyane that this. May me he paid by the weyane to do their BS, now he is allover PMAA. I think he is mad that PMAA helped Eritrea to get rid of the sanction. I am for real

          • Abi

            Hello General
            No tplf no EPRDF.
            I don’t think Ato Amanuel lies. He just doesn’t know who was feeding him propaganda.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ras Abi,

            Do you read he feeds his lies. He can’t bring anything even to be interpreted that I said “Badme is Ethiopian”. It is false and is part of PFDJ propaganda to blackmail anyone on their way. Look a man who doesn’t know the country itself is accusing for the one who fought for the birth of the country from his student age until now. On the ticket to Ethiopia: I flew twice to Ethiopia one paid by the Eritrean community in NY and its vicinity who support ENCDC and one is from my own pocket. Anyway, You gave him the right answer that I am not TPLF nor am an EPRDF agent. And for you I am not feeding propaganda, I am only sharing my view what I felt will be good for the Ethiopian people.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I think you misunderstood me. What I was trying to say was that tplf was the disguising and disgusting ventriloquist that was thinking and speaking for the whole eprdf. I’m sure you missed this disgusting behavior of tplf.

            From what I understand ( which is almost never) you are busy defending eprdf( sorry tplf) religiously to the extent that some people are questioning your integrity and dedication to Eritrea.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ras Abiy; what is feeding him is a free ticket and the hospitality by the dead midget . He got some respect that he didn’t get from PIA and that was easy for him to trash Eritrea by siding with digital weyane . I will never abandon Eritrea and what she stood for. NEVER. The guy a gun for hire.

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            To accuse Amanuel of saying “The EEBC decision was wrong for awarding Badime for Eritrea“ is a serious thing and is unfair, unless you have unambiguous evidence. ELF (of which Amanuel was/is a member) administered Badme because it was and is an Eritrean territory, as confirmed by the EEBC.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Hashela; I would appreciate you can reserve you judgement before you conclude that I was unfair. The guy said it between the lines. I will present you with evidence and you can judge for your self. What is for you unambiguous evidence it does so much for me. The guy you are defending is nothing but digital weyane. The end of the story. I am not, I will not compromise anything Eritrean. Like I said I will present you what he said and judge for your self. Eza hager den Alewa. We will never sleep nor we confused by the so called former tegadelti who sold their soul for a free ticket from the TPLF thugs. Again eza Hager seb alewa
            Take that to the bank

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            I think what you are accusing Amanuel because of “free ticket”, is cheap, and full of lies. What’s with higdef and their cheap attacks. Disagree with him, as much as you like, based on his opinion and based on his stand but to accuse him, and his integrity because of a “free ticket” is just lie.

            He is an accomplished professional and he can afford to pay his own ticket, what are we talking about, 2000 dollars, is really stupid. Did he attend a meeting who may be sponsored by Ethiopia and a conference, where the expense may have been paid by the Ethiopian government, sure he may have. I have no idea, but if he did “WHO THE HELL cares?”.

            You can guilty trap people with false accusations. How many meetings she conferences, the PFDJ organized for Ethiopian opposition groups? Did those Ethiopians go to Eritrea so they can sell Ethiopia to Eritrea.

            I disagreed with Amanuel many times on many different occasions but he is the epicentre of Eritrean as it can get when it comes to the love and care of his people.

            He does not deserve to be accused or insulted by someone who is equal to “mosquito” TanTu.

            Mis MeEbeyKa TifaE.

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ክቡር የኽብረካ መጠነ ነብሱ, brother Berhe!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe & Mehandsay,

            Thank you guys for giving the right answer to the sick person whose mind is manipulated by remote control from Asmara a country he has never seen it. To tell you frankly, I am not worried by an individual whose conscience is controlled by others. But I have a concern when I see “unfounded accusation” from a well educated individuals whom I consider them a well meaning individuals and love to engage them. In a debate of ideas you attack the ideas not the carrier of the idea. Usually the ideas are not new, they existed within the intellectual pools for long time, where the individuals debate on them and take positions on them. The idea that influence the majority will dictate the norm of a given society. That should be the rules of the educated elites. Insults and unruled conduct will not breed good citizens, but hate and ungovernable communities at war each other. The only think I hate is the destructive culture that is created by PFDJ and the mind behind it. Again thank you for the vote of confidence. Here it is: I keep myself singing my own song “ “ቃልሲ’ዩ ህይወተይ” singing and hymning it at every turning point of our politics to keep reminding myself the unfulfilled hopes of our people. We shall prevail.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Prof. Emma,
            All you need is a Filter with a very narrow BW and high Q. The rest will be rejected as noise.
            You are on the right track and keep marching. You have paid a lifetime price and that’s what worries HGDF and they try to character assassinate you. You should consider it as a badge of honor.
            Keep it up, dear brother!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; I know you have this habit of azz kissing but you are too old for that and you shouldn’t do what you are doing, you should have helped you kids. Do you remember how used, many times you were complaining about your kids, why not spent time and help instead of batting for old, corrupted and free chasers. There is something you don’t and you and understand that “integrity” if this corrupted individual had a shred of integrity he won’t accept the free ticket and he won’t sell his soul. get this to you welfare addicted head, he can take the free ticket and he can sell, as he has his soul but he can’t attack the country. Any go head spend some time with kids, do the right thing. Aman can defend himself. Aman-H is too smart he can get free tickets but your too stupid and dumb to get anything.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Gen Nittric.
            -That DUDE supported and was an ENABLER of what the TPLF drafted, declared and endorsed at all levels.
            -Petitioned for Sanctions and DEFENDED the sanctions
            -protested Against the EU FUND for Eritrea
            -Supported and endorsed the flip-flopping TPLF stand on the EEBC and the Algiers Agreement including the five- points.
            Check how he belittled Gen Blink along with his twin “ Professor”,when Gen Blink exposed Amanuel Sahle’s propaganda against Eritrea and in favor of the AgAzian Movement ,which FORCED our Giant, SGJ,to officially (but thru coded and diplomatic messages),protest against those SELL OUTs!
            If you carefully pay attention and analyze each and every statement he makes about Eritrea and Eritreans visa-vis TPLF and Tigrai,you can literally confirm that his ideas and stands match EXACTLY with/ to that of the TPLF and its supporters!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Sultan M.G.
            You really can’t hide behind SGJ.
            Why aren’t you focusing against the dictator, if that is your intention.
            You can’t continue with this character assassination. Don’t you get tired?
            It seems you have a lot of similarities with Charlie, for some reason.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Engineer:
            Did I get into your nerves?
            I just STATED THE FACTS.
            Now I am Min Yemane G/Meksel, no more Mahmuday!
            Wow,CONGRATS to me!!!
            Nuh, I prefer to stay as SULTAN,the King of the King’s….in my own world

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            I am an open book and my writings are in the public domain. You can’t find the truth from Nitiric and his kind. Go to Awate and Asmarinos to find it yourself.

            Actually, I am from those who accuse the regime for letting Badme to administered by the Kilil Tigray since 1982 till that fateful day may 6, 1998. I have shared the document of YouTube with this forum. Second, EEBC also documented as it was being administered by Ethiopia before 1998.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H talk is cheap. Can you showcase your readers that you demand that your masters and ticket providers should leave Badime? Dude, get a hold of you Fake self. You are nothing but hidden digital Weyabe enjoy your freaking free ticket. I was eplf, I am eplf and I will die Eplf . Stop lies.

          • mokie berhe

            Salam Nitricc. There is absolutely no doubt that the DUDE who professes to know everything about events in Eritrea over the last 25 years (though he has not lived there for some 40 years) takes every opportunity available to distort facts, interpretation of events, U.N. sanctions, etc., in favor of the TPLF and against Eritrea. Like he said, his history is an open book and is well known by many. He often plays the braggadocio card of saying that he goes by his true name and not a nickname. Albeit this may be true, his name is now completely spoiled and what he fails to realize is that those who have sold their souls to the TPLF will never be welcomed to Eritrea, either during the PIA/PFDJ regime or afterwards; nobody likes traitors. So easy it was for them since 20 years ago to sleep and parade with the TPLF, as they were totally convinced that they would ride on the backs of the TPLF who would triumphantly march into Asmara to take over Eritrea. Things didn’t work out the way they planned, and they are now simply left with a stomach full of hate and the realization that they are now distrusted non-entities in the Eritrean equation.

          • Nitricc

            in favor of the TPLF and against Eritrea

            Hey Mokie; that is exactly my beef. Any one should question and oppose the government; that is not only a right but it is also an obligation. But to sell country for your own benefit and personal grudge is something unacceptable. I know for the old people is like so what because they are used to corruption, grudge and revenge. speaking frankly; PIA is doing a big fever to the up and coming generation by not implementing the constitution and holding elections. With those people, nation building, social justice, national harmony and working a rule of law is impossible. So, I Thank PIA for not contaminating the constitution by corrupted and contaminated people.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Prof. Emma,
            It is the cheap trick of HGDF. They deeply believe they are not Eritreans. So, what they have to do is blame ደቂ ባት for not being Eritreans.

            ሓባል በልያ ከይ ቀደምትኪ!
            ካብቲ ጎቦ ዓድኻ ‘ባ ሓደ ነዊሕ እምኒ ኣለቀሓኒ ዳርባ ክገብረሎም 🙂

          • Nitricc

            Eritreans who were living in Badume have voted as Eritreans who reside in Ethiopia”

            Hey Hashela; although my accusation of Aman-H is over a long time observation and his obsession with weyane but this above statement of his that broke the back of the camel. If I understood it wrong I have no problem to stand corrected and apologized for it but the way I understood it. Badime is EThiopian even the Eritreans who lived there voted as Eritreans who reside in Ethiopia I.E Bidame is/was Ethiopian land. Now this is my understanding what is yours?

          • Desbele

            Nitricc,
            Eritreans who were living in Badume have voted as Eritreans who reside in Ethiopia” . This is true. Badme was under Ethiopian administration before the conflict. This statement doesnt say Badme is Ethiopian.
            I know it is bitter. Put ‘Woyane’ off your mind for a second.
            Close your eyes. Take a deep breath and read again. Yes Badme was under Ethiopian administration before the conflict in 1998. Amanuel would rather be called ‘Woyane’ than let the truth be bend. Hats off for him. One of the most principled in this forum.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Ayte Desbele the Amichew!
            The entire Eritrea was under Ethiopian Admin for decades.
            You both “ principled” Eritreans should
            have protested against :
            -the naked INVASION of Adi Murug
            -The new Abay Republic Tigrai incorporating a large swap of Eritrean Territory
            -the sanctions of Eritrea and Eritreans
            -The deportation of Eritreans and Ethiopians of Eritrean origin coz of the color of their eyes
            -the ongoing settlement of Tigreyans in Baduma
            – the sabotage of the EU Aid Fund to Eritrea and Eritreans
            -The containment,the isolation and the destructive No War No Peace policies of the TPLF
            -the provocations and planned invasion of Eritrea by the TPLF from 2011-2017 fully backed by its masters.
            -the ongoing evil agenda and propaganda by same evil Janda against Eritrea and Eritreans and their Unity and Sovereignty .
            “Principled Eritreans“!
            Love that.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Ras Abi,

            You remember you were for dabo first years ago. Unfortunately, at this juncture, you got neither dabo nor democracy. What you got is chaos, instabilities, and a leader that deepened the mistrust and hate among your social forces. The way out: ditto my reply to Horizon.

          • Abi

            Hello Ato Amanuel
            I remember I was always for dabo (በገዛ ዳቦዬ ልብ ልቡን አጣሁት እንጂ)!

            ጌቶች እርስዎም እኮ በአንድ ወቅት ለኤርትራ ነፃነት ታግለው ነበር (በነበር ቀረ እንጂ):: አሁን ከረፈደ ኤርትራን በምላስ ወያኔን ከትራስ አደረጉት እንጂ::
            “እንደሰራ አይገድል” አሉ እሜቴ

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ras Abi,

            I fought for what my generation was demanded to fight by the society at large, and that was to create an independent Eritrea. My generation realized that dream of Eritreans for generations. I am fulfilled with that accomplishment. Democracy and to keep intact the nascent nation now is up to the generation that follows us. So it is not “በነበር ቀረ እንጂ”:: Even with our current age, the veterans of the struggle are still giving hands to our young generations in their fight. Because, my generation when they joined the struggle they took the “struggle is their life” and indeed it was and is. Our youth will overcome the predicament the same as their predecessors. Stay with the loop of the argument don’t divert it and avid name calling to play a positive politicking.

          • Abi

            Hello Ato Amanuel
            “እቴ በምን ቋንቋ በምን ቃል ላስረዳሽ?” አለ መልካሙ ተበጀ እንደኔ ግራ ግብት ቢለው!

            ነገሩ እንዲህ ነው ጌታዬ

            እርስዎ የኤርትራን ጉዳይ ጣጥለው
            ወያኔ ላይ ተንጠልጥለው
            ውረዱ ቢባሉ አሻፈረኝ
            የታዘበ ይፋረደኝ::
            ኢህአዴግን አፍቅረው ከወያኔ ሲዳሩ
            ተረበሸ! እሪ አለ! ከተማው ባላገሩ
            ካልተስማሙ ደህና ይደሩ
            ሰልችቶኛል ክርክሩ::

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            I agree with you, the grave mistake was the fact that Ethiopia agreed to the US mediation (they will not admit that). This wasn’t the strategy of the previous administration, in the previous admin US mediation was unthinkable. I think it is becoming obvious that in 2018/2019 PMAA was trying to consolidate his power by all means possible, thus to do that he started to demonize METEC and GERD disproportionately in order to hit the previous admin (mainly TPLF). US and Egypt were aware of that, thus they played that power consolidation greediness to their own interest. Certain groups of Ethiopians have been criticizing MZ the start of the GERD construction, today they are pretending as if they care about the dam now, what changed?.

            If we can’t have consistent values and principles that remains unchanged with circumstances then we can’t move forward as a society.

            Thanks,

        • Haile S.

          Selam Horizon,

          What are exactly are the points of contention pushing Ethiopia to resist the pressure?
          Regardless of who is administering Ethiopia, wouldn’t any one be facing this bottleneck as the Dam reaches completion?
          One should also realize the legitimate fear Egypt has. Ethiopia would do the same if was in Egypt’s geography.

          • Selam Haile S.,

            Ethiopia never denied that the Nile is also important to egypt as it is to all riparian countries. That is why ethiopia always speaks of “equitable sharing of the Nile”.
            In actual fact, as you know, the gerd is for electricity production rather than for irrigation farming, which means that water consumption is minimal. Therefore, egypt’s problem is also geopolitical, because she doesn’t want another strong nation in the region, because she believes that her influence extends all over the region.
            What happened in washing was a repackaging of the 1929 and 1059 colonial agreements egypt more or less signed with itself, because britain and sudan don’t really count, thus getting the lion’s share of the water (about 80%), leaving the remainder (20%) for sudan, and ethiopia was completely ignored. This cannot be repeated this time directly or indirectly. Worse still, egypt was given the right to decide on the dam, how it would work, etc., which is more or less reminiscent of what it used to say in the past, i.e. carrying out any developmental construction on the nile without permission from egypt will not be allowed. Because egypt had failed to block the construction of the dam, now it wants it not to function with the help of the trump administration.

      • Sultan M.G.

        Berhe Y
        You make tons of sense for the most part.
        I second you.
        That should be or will be what Ethiopia will do!
        Fetina TseliEna,gorebetna Eyya Estopia and we will be the ultimate beneficiary of the Dam in many ways.

    • Solomon

      Selam Horizon,

      I am surprised you didn’t blame MZ/TPLF . You could say if they had finished it in 5 years as per the schedule this wouldn’t have happened or you could blame them for starting the GERD in the first place because it is political project ,Or this cunning Weyanes started the damned dam to loot Ethiopia and then when they are ousted by the Prophet Abiy it will be a time bomb .

      Instead you are blaming Trump and the US government, never PMAA. You didn’t want to know why the US and the World Bank are involved after 7 year when the construction work reached 65%.

      Your Traitor PM begun his premiership by defaming the GERD. He said the Dam will not be finished in 10 years when the dam was growing more than 9% per year. Since he come to power in almost 2 years it didn’t grow 3%.

      When GERD Manager Engineer Simengew Bekele was found dead in his Car the Pastor dishonored him by saying some body by the name of Engineer Simengew Bekele had been found dead at Meskel square. His death remains a secret to this day.

      He went to Egypt and gave President Al Sisi his word by saying welahi welahi we will not harm you.

      The Ethiopian people donated more than 12 billion but the Pastor when he met with elementary school teachers trivialized it by saying don’t think you donated much , your contribution is less than 10%.

      When he met with University teachers in his office he said the purpose of the dam was for political reason and it will not be finished in 10 years implying the Dam is not important.

      He downgraded the generation capacity by 1300 MW and announced to the world the dam has quality issues giving Egypt ammunition and demoralized the Ethiopian people to halt their donation and even ask for refund of their money.

      Why the height of the Dam is not reduced is only because the Civil construction work was more than 80 % finished when the Traitor took power and is not possible to reduce the height.

      Here are some facts about the GERD. In 2007(EC) by the agreement reached between Ethiopia, Sudan and Egypt international professionals from Germany ,
      France ,Britain and South Africa studied the dams quality of construction . In the study that took 1 year 153 design documents were studied and the team concluded the dam is being constructed fulfilling international standards .This document was given to the 3 countries.

      Chinese and European Companies that were working under METEC then and working as contractors now gave their witnesse there is no major quality issue in the mechanical work done by METEC except minor issue in welding .

      METEC was accused of embezzling billions of money and a documentary was made that was aired in all major medias in the country. But until today no official from METEC has been accused of in connection with GERD.

      The Pastor has admitted multiple times he has been giving secret information’s to OLF, Ginbot 7, General Asaminew Tsige etc. So this guy is capable of selling his country for power and money. He has already taken the down payment from Egypt via the World Bank and the UAE. The only thing preventing him from signing the sale of the GERD is because there are patriotic Ethiopians in the technical team which are refusing. But I don’t think they resist him for long. This guy is Narcissist and dangerous. God save us.

      • Sultan M.G.

        Selam Solomon( Not Alula,are u?):
        Here is the truth:
        Hadn’t the TPLF sabotaged or obstructed and/or destabilized Dr AAA and his noble cause or had the TPLF JOINED the Peace Process and contributed its share constructively,I think Ethiopia could have been in a much better and stronger position.
        The TPLF has been squarely responsible for the chaos in Ethiopia in one way or another ,which directly or by default/proxy contributed to the over all weakness of Ethiopia economically,politically, security wise and diplomatically.
        Some Ethiopians, in fact believe that you and your TPLF are celebrating what Ethiopia is going through now in all fronts.

    • Solomon

      Selam Horizon,

      I am surprised you didn’t blame MZ/TPLF . You could say if they had finished it in 5 years as per the schedule this wouldn’t have happened or you could blame them for starting the GERD in the first place because it is political project ,Or this cunning Weyanes started the damned dam to loot Ethiopia and then when they are ousted by the Prophet Abiy it will be a time bomb .Instead you are blaming Trump and the US government, never PMAA. You didn’t want to know why the US and the World Bank are involved after 7 year when the construction reached 65%.

      Your Traitor PM begun his premiership by defaming the GERD.

      He said the Dam will not be finished in 10 years when the dam was growing more than 9% per year. Since he come to power in almost 2 yeasr it didn’t grow 3%.

      When GERD Manager Engineer Simengew Bekele was found dead in his Car the Pastor dishonored him by saying some body by the name of Engineer Simengew Bekele had been found dead at Meskel square. His death remains a secret to this day.

      He went to Egypt and gave President Al Sisi his word by saying welahi welahi we will not harm you.

      The Ethiopian people donated more than 12 billion but the Pastor when he met with elementary school teachers trivialized it by saying don’t think you donated much , your contribution is less than 10%.

      When he met with University teachers in his office he said the purpose of the dam was for political reason and it will not be finished in 10 years implying the Dam is not important.

      He downgraded the generation capacity by 1300 MW and announced to the world the dam has quality issues giving Egypt ammunition and demoralized the Ethiopian people to halt their donation and even ask for refund of their money.

      Why the height of the Dam is not reduced is only because the Civil construction work was more than 80 % finished when the Traitor took power and is not possible to reduce the height.

      Here are some facts about the GERD. In 2007(EC) by the agreement reached between Ethiopia, Sudan and Egypt international professionals from Germany, France ,Britain and South Africa studied the dams quality of construction . In the study that took 1 year 153 design documents were studied and the team concluded the dam is being constructed fulfilling international standards .This document was given to the 3 countries.

      Chinese and European Companies that were working under METEC then and working as contractors now gave their witnesse there is no major quality issue in the mechanical work done by METEC except minor issue in welding .

      METEC was accused of embezzling billions of money and a documentary was made that was aired in all major medias in the country. But until today no official from METEC has been accused of in connection with GERD.

      The Pastor has admitted multiple times he has been giving secret information’s to OLF, Ginbot 7, General Asaminew Tsige etc. So this guy is capable of selling his country for power and money. He has already taken the down payment from Egypt via the World Bank and the UAE. The only thing preventing him from signing the sale of the GERD are because there are patriotic Ethiopians in the technical team which are refusing. But I don’t think they will resist him for long. Abiy Ahmed will do any thing in his power because he is counting on the US and the Arabs for their support in the coming election to crush the will of the people of Ethiopia.

      • Selam Solomon,

        The dam was derailed from its course when METEC took 100% of the money and completed only 25% of the job. The 65% was what Salini did and not what METEC accomplished. In actual fact Salini was demanding for $300m in compensation for the delay due to METEC. METEC was one of the thousands of the hideouts of corrupt tplf officials, where they embezzled the money of poor ethiopians.

        • Abi

          Hello Horizon
          Solomon the wise is playing salmon the dumb going against the tides.

          • Selam Abi,

            How they imagine what the future holds for tplf is hard to understand. Dictatorship has created in tplf the audacity to ‘rebel without a cause’, as if they are juvenile delinquents. You know the movie. They are on a head on collision course with the federal government. They are counting on the help of the so-called ethnic federalists like jawar and other oromo ethno-nationalists.
            When they were kicked out of power, they accepted that they had made mistakes, but never apologized to the ethiopian people and return to the ethiopian society. On the contrary, they chose to isolate themselves.
            There will come a day when they will get fed up with the isolation and realize that what they did was a big mistake. Finally they will be forced to come out of their hiding and return back to the ethiopian society like the prodigal son.

          • Nitricc

            There will come a day when they will get fed up with the isolation and realize that what they did was a big mistake

            Hi Horizon; They will but TPLF in its history, sees to understand, realize and admit doing wrongs are after 10 years of time has elapsed. According to Their schedule; they decked to admit, realizes and acknowledge in 2030. so you got to wait till then

          • Abi

            Hello Horizon
            As the “ visionary leader “ once said
            መንገዱን ጨርቅ ያርግላቸው::
            ለጊዜው እንደ እከካም ፍየል ጥጋቸውን ይዘዋል:: ቀስ ብሎ የሰሜኑን መንገድ ማመላከት ነው::

  • Abi

    Anybody watching Virginia vs Duke?
    Saay? Paul? Nitricc?…

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hailat, Mehandsay, Abrehet, & the rest,

    Since you have an interest on Tigrigna language as I do, here is an Eritrean researcher and her dissertation for her PHD on the subject. Enjoy it.

    http://bora.uib.no/bitstream/handle/1956/5730/42478%20Nazareth%20Kifle%20materie.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

    • Berhe Y

      Thank you for sharing. This is great.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Emma,
      Thank you for this useful reference. Reference materials on tigrigna language are few and this will contribute a lot.

    • Saleh Johar

      Thank you Emma,
      I heard about this a while ago but couldn’t find it. It’s a good weekend gift. Thanks again

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Amanuel,

      Selam the best,,,

      I am proud of you man..

      KS..

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kokhbay,

        I am proud of you too. This is a good document for you and like you. You have to read it and file it for your reference.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Yes Amuni.

          I have done that..

          KS..

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Wow, this is the first of its kind to me!
      Thanks, Prof. Emma!

  • Sultan M.G.

    #TourduRwanda 2020🚴🏾after stage 5: Best Team #Eritrea, Best African rider Eritrean, Best Young rider Eritrean, Best Sprinter Eritrean pic.twitter.com/5D8hN0i5Cs— Paulos Netabay (@PNetabay) February 27, 2020

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Hope,
      I don’t know what you mean “Rwanda?”.

      It’s one of the best tours in Africa, I think. Last year Merhawi Kudus won the yellow jersey. Merhawi was representing team Astana.

      And two Eritreans won the yellow jersey for four days and including current leader Nathaniel Tesfazion, for three days).

      After today race (stage 6) Team Eritrea is second place.

      The best part is, every year new riders pop up with amazing potential.

      An Ethiopian, Kinfe HAILEMICHAEL, won a stage win (2) and that’s great.

      Berhe

      • Sultan M.G.

        Selam Berhe:
        I posted the twitter news by the Yemane G about the success of our Eritrea Cycling Team but someone might have edited or deleted it.

  • Sultan M.G.
    • sara

      selamat sultan,
      kef halek, alf salama….. ??//
      ya sultan, what happened to you? with all respect ,bringing this type of info or link is
      insult to those who educate us every day about many important matters of our country.

      • Sultan M.G.

        Ahlen Biki Ya Sarina:
        Someone sent it to me to my inbox and I posted it reluctantly since I know RediE Mehari and his endless controversies.
        Glad it was deleted.
        It was for fun….
        Apologies for posting it.

        • Abi

          Hello Sultan
          “ካዩኝ ስቄ ካላዩኝ ሰርቄ” ይላል ሌባ

  • Nitricc

    Tplf military officials are saying that they have nothing to worry about armament, intensive military training is going on, and as a Tigrayan commander summarized: there is not one army in the whole Horn which can defeat tplf.

    Hi All I was reading an article by Horizon in response to Solomon Weyanay and I can’t help but notice the quote from A tigryan commander bragging about Tigrayan elite force. well this the force they are talking about. an army can’t even keep the march right. it is a short clip and I begging for the moda to let slide since it is almost weekend. Let me show you the real army and then immediately follows the strongest army in the horn Africa. please watch the tigryan army. lollll remember there is not one army in the whole Horn which can defeat tplf. please watch I have never seen in any army like this one. first watch how it is done then you will be the judge.

    https://www.facebook.com/NationalErInterest/videos/202526177488631

    • Sultan M.G.

      Ya General:
      The TPLF allegedly smuggled few medium range missiles from N Korea through Port Sudan. Beyond that,they have nothing else to brag about.
      May be few T-90 Tanks and long range Artilleries.
      Sounds to me a last min desperado fake show off act and paranoia.
      The EDF scared them from the Aseb Front with few Surgace-to-surface missiles in 2017.
      Only the earthquake like negoda of the missile they never heard of, made them to PANICK.
      They claimed that no one can match their defense capability in East Africa …. as if they didn’t fail in 2000 when they had EVERYTHING they should have had …
      Good luck to them.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Yes Sultan M.G.

        What? Can you talk about what is currently Important?

        You know, that you have been writing about 5G and you had written and article about it and that was very interesting subject..this is the time we all were interested before some months back.. I know you had been very great EPLFista…and some time we try to convince you to move with the mass but I don’t know what you EPLF fighters consume during our struggle era most of you are not to progress watching what the mass is saying..But since you have very intelligent mind we all expect you to change your character and listen to that mass and change you position..of hate come to love and be the first changer to the society..

        Be kind enough to understand, I am not against you and but not only you but everybody who was in EPLF when I was in ELF and I am no more going about the past but I am interested what is currently –On the ground ..watch the coffee page and see what I am writing every Not everyday but once in week..

        KS,,

        • Sultan M.G.

          Ahlen Ya Ustaz Kokheb Selam:
          This is Shiek Sultan Mohammed Gender!
          Talk to Mahmuday thru his FB Blog!
          Glad that you are doing well.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Ahlen Ya Ustaz Sultan M.G.

            What did Abi said –“ካዩኝ ስቄ ካላዩኝ ሰርቄ” ይላል ሌባ:

            So you are not Mahmuday,,How to prove it ?

            KS,,

          • Sultan M.G.

            Relax kokhobay!
            Kab behaliUs DrgsmiU quenka.
            Bekka hade kumnegher-albo gurregna keldegna berrArAA embahh entebeles kando reference point gherkayyo?
            Am honored to be considered as Mahmuday the Great but am not,for the sake of honesty!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Ok Sultan M.G..

            Then sorry for miss understanding you..

            KS,,

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in favor the plaintiffs (Gize Yebeyo Araya, Kesete Tekle Fshazion and Mihretab Yemane Tekle). These Eritrean lawyers accused “nevsun resources ltd” on accountability and human right issue in Eritrea. Read the attachment for details. A victory for the Eritrean people.

    https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/18169/index.do?fbclid=IwAR2kHyU7FhR8zGIhthiDFDAqGhuWEHm35zYRp-NafFg4lMNjksDIXTJYUdI

    • MERIR

      Good day and worthless victory to the Weyane. congratulations.

  • Abi

    Hello All
    Where is Paul the Greatista? I miss him already

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes Abi,

      I 2nd you,,Nice, Just thinking about him,,

      Look how much we miss when you are out of this site? Keep it the way you are.

      KS,,

      • Abi

        Kokobe
        Paul is like a pole ( ምሰሶ) at Awatenation. He brought us interesting and educational issues of different topics.
        Ras Abi brings you nada.
        አንድ ሥም አልቦ አዋታዊ በትክክል እንደገለፀው ራሥ አቢ ቁም ነገር አልቦ ናቸው::

        • Saleh Johar

          Ras Abi,
          We have known each other for too long but still I do not understand you–very mysterious. A real Ras 🙂
          I wish we could meet over a table of something (each one chooses what they get, I don’t want to get into your choice, I am underage, you know)
          All these years I have identified one topic we do not meet eye to eye on. Otherwise, I testify you are very cool (not cold, God forbid, besmeab!)

          You have a way of depreciating yourself but the thing beneath comes out defiantly as if screaming “I cannot be glossed over”. I read it as an attempt at humility. I love your communication. style and quips… true to God, I love it. But not when you pick a match stick 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            Unfortunately my First Lady doesn’t agree with your characterization of me. She thinks I’m HOT. Hot like ሚጥሚጣ hot.
            ክብሪት አይፍሩ ጌታው:: ክብሪት መጀመሪያ የሚያነደው እራሱን ነው::

  • Sultan M.G.

    Hello All :

    The Mekele Univ vs Keren Univ Debate:

    Source :SBS RADIO.

    Please listen to the recent SBS Radio Interview of Professor Salih Gadi Johar of Keren Univ and “ Asst Prof” Meresa of the Mekele University and be the Judge.
    They both tried to address and clarify on the current hot and sticky issues.

    “ As long as PIA is in power,TPLF and Tigrai shall NEVER consider demarcation”!

    Prof Gadi breaks into a nonstop laughter!

    No bias or offense here but that “Prof” sounded to me that he has no clue about what he was trying to say or relay besides his obvious vagueness,inconsistency ,flip-flopping and contradictory statements every second.

    To me,his articulation is/was so poor that it was/is difficult to follow him.

    Ustaz Salih was,expectedly,clear and straightforwardly minus his apparently deliberate and sarcastic way of stumbling on the official refusal of demarcating the border by the TPLF.

    In my naive opinion,Beyene Semere’s choice of Salih’s Partner was quite wrong (of the SBS RADIO) !

    N.B.
    Dear Ustaz SGJ and other interested Eritreans:

    You should have been awarded with at least an honorary PHD and Professorship even though your 20 years of extensive work,research and the three books could have earned you a PhD Degree easily!

    You successfully and practically combined your genetic /natural talent and your learned behavior / effort to the best and to the maximum of your capacity.

    I am smelling your Inherited Genius DNA and it’s unlimited potential after I was reminded/ found out about your kinship with the late Reverend Fratello Yemanu Jehar of the De LaSalle Christian Brothers!

    Here is the gist of my message:

    In the Everlasting Memory of the Late BROTHER YEMANU JEHAR!

    “ Nizigheberlka wey nigherelu wey ghiberelu”!
    For and about the late BROTHER YEMANU JEHAR!

    I found out that the late Brother/Fratello Yemanu Jehar( Johar) ,RIP,of the De LaSalle Christian Brothers(Of St Joseph Schools of Keren and Asmera as well as that of the famous St Joseph High Schools of Addis(and Diredawa))is/was your second cousin/ immediate)!

    I think you mentioned this on your Negarit few months ago when u talked about —— origins ,etc.

    -He was the most genius and the most brilliant person,intellectual and Leader I have ever met in my life with three Degrees earned within two-three years from the USA!

    -He was my fav High School Biology Teacher at “The Holy Savior Catholic Major Seminary“of Asmera in early 1980s!

    -He served in the Top Leadership in the International Catholic Church Services and De LaSalle Christian Brothers Community in Eritrea,Ethiopia,Kenya and S Africa in particular,and all over the world in general.This is besides teaching at all levels of Institutions and Education!

    -He was the Secretary of the ECS(Ethio-Eritrean Catholic Secretariat)sponsored by the International Catholic Services/ Caritas, who succeeded to Fund thru same Caritas for planned Project to build the multimillion $$ Anseba River Dam,which the Italians initiated in 1930s .

    This Project was unique in its kind since the plan was to build a big Dam to revive and expand the ElaBerid Estate and to provide huge Irrigation System covering the entire Anseba and Sahel all the way to Barca going thru Halhal and Jengheren;and an artificial River going through the heart of Keren was on the Project(around the year 1985-1986).It was projected to generate enough HEP( Hydroelectric Power)for 75% of Eritrea-they said so)!

    Here is the sad part of it:

    Despite the Derghi Regime approved it and that the Genius Brother Yemanu Jehar succeeded in getting the budget in EXCESS from the Catholic Caritas and in making Bishop Zecarias of the Eri Catholic Church to sign the final papers to go ahead as planned, very few Regionalist Clergy Members convinced the Bishop to annul the project claiming that that huge money was too much $$ to be assigned to Awraja Senhit ONLY!
    No clue where that money went to!

    Bingo! Here we go again,the typical and destructive Awrajawinet in Eritrea !!

    This is a confirmed history (a verbatim narration)by Aba Kerlos(Charles) ,RIP,from Glass ,of the Cistercians per my 1:1 personal Interview.

    Here is another story and contribution by the late Bro Yemanu Jehar:

    He also played a role along with his Team from the De LaSalle Christian Brothers thru same Catholic Caritas and along with other Catholic Clergy like Aba Meconen Tekhle of Keren et al,I believe the current Vatican Amb to Ethiopia,who played a big role for an ambitious Project of its kind to build the BEST and World Class International Catholic Univ of Eritrea in 1995 or so .The project was fully funded and ready to be built in Eritrea to be open to ALL ERITREANS of all backgrounds,irrespective of their origin,tribe,religion,region or language including all Africans but PIA and Min Salih Osman,the then Min of Education,turned it DOWN!!!

    Don’t ask me why!

    Then this ambitious project was transferred to Ethiopia and the St Thomas Aquinas Univ was built recently at the Heart of Addis Abeba, a world class and one of the biggest and the BEST universities in Africa .

    I think it might have taken over Nairobi??

  • Sultan M.G.

    BREAKING NEWS:

    -We all heard about yesterday’s devastating and embarrassing breaking news from Asmera that the Ethiopian Catholic Leadership led by his Holiness/Excellency,Cardinal Birhane-Yesus, hand picked by Dr AAA as the President of Peace Commission in Ethiopia,was deported back to Ethiopia out of blue by an ORDER FROM THE ABOVE,after being detained for 16 hrs in the Asmera Airport , after their Immigration Clearance was completed and after getting an entry visa for a month and while waiting to be picked up by the Eritrean Catholic Cardinal,His Holiness/Excellency Cardinal MenghisteAb,who OFFICIALLY INVITED the Ethiopian Team to attend the Golden Jubilee (50 yrs)Anniversay of Kidane Mihret ( Our Mother of Mercy)Cathedral of Asmera!
    Apparently, as a revenge to the same Ethiopian Catholic Leadership for condemning the horrific and abusive confiscation and closure of the famously successful and efficient Eri Catholic Education and Healthcare System through the Eastern Africa Catholic Conference!
    Another possible reason for the REVENGE is rumored to be that the current Ethiopian Cardinal allegedly said “ We need to defend ourselves from our internal enemies”, allegedly targeting those deportees, in his Sermon in 1998 during the Inhumane Deportation of the Eritreans and Eritreans of Ethiopian Origin.

    This is based on what the toxically Pro PFDJ Govt TN.Com,who explained the reason for the deportation as ”Yegodda biresa Yetegodda Ayresam”/ Is tsenahit Shendahit”by specifically giving the reasons I stated above
    Am not convinced that the measure taken by the PFDJ Regime for whatever reason is justifiable in lieu of the Ethio-Eritrea Peace, since this evil vengeful act nullifies the VERY message of the Peace!
    Me thinks and believes so!
    A Genuine Reconciliation includes FORGIVENESS as the CORE principle and precondition of that Genuine Reconciliation !

    Kabzi ZikhefeE wo Zehizin wo zehiffir entay allo, albeit done deliberately?

    Good luck Eritrea and Eritreans!

    • Nitricc

      Stop sensualizing the dead news. First of all nothing is breaking, embarrassing nor devastating with happen to the church people. and stop misinforming people by saying they were “detained” They weren’t detained, they were waiting the next plain to Addis. The government has the right to reject any visitor to the country. why are you so up in the arms with this one? oooohhh it is religion? I got it, so what? come-man. This world would be a better place with out fake religion like the one try to visit to Asmara. I am glad they were rejected.

      • Sultan M.G.

        Srr ER Lam Gen Nittric:
        As I offered you before , am willing to offer you again a round trip airfare to Eritrea along with some mesarif for a month to set your foot and tour Eritrea and interview Eritreans from the bottom to to the above and visit dome low profile Prisons where young kids like you and Siham are being tortured for nothing but for dodge drafting.
        The Asmera Airport incident about detaining and deporting the Top Ethiopian Religious Leadership Team has a serious diplomatic implication besides shuttering down the Peace Deal, which assenna allegedly quoted the Team

  • mokie berhe

    Salam all. Forget politics in Ethio-Eri for a sec. It is only a matter of time before cases of coronavirus are reported in Addis Ababa; it risks becoming a disaster there for a number of obvious reasons. The number flights (to/from China) and Chinese pax going to/thru Addis Ababa is simply astonishing. Ironic it is that Tedros Adhanom (the only non-Medical Doctor to ever head WHO) {TPLF paid for his appointment. No joke!} made a critical mistake in delayed declaration of coronavirus as a global health emergency. And, the way that he and WHO have strategized/treated Africa (complete neglect) in regards to the coronavirus is simply criminal. I sincerely hope that my fears are unfounded.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Mokie; I hate to break to you but if Italy can suffer on this magnitude; if Iran can suffer on this magnitude. what makes you think Africa will spare from such tragedy?
      I am convinced there are multiple ceases of Coronaviruses in Africa. They just hide it from the public out concern that public fear-inducing. Especially Ethiopia flies five times a week in to China, including Wuhan. My fear is there are many ceases in Ethiopia but the Ethiopian government covered the issue which will come to hunt them. I mean, this thing going to be world wide. It is the matter of time, you will see here in the USA people running around like crazy. It will be worldwide, just a matter of when. The CDC just ordered the respiratory mask maker to produce mask 24-7. That tells you what is coming. I mean not every one dies who is infected by coronavirus, for sure, the weak, the old and the babies are the first to be fatally attacked. My question is why is it Iran have the 2nd highest ceases to china is something needs an answer. Did experimenting with biological warfare went wrong between China and Iran? hmmmmm

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat Awate

    1. EPLF was annihilating educated Eritreans, since its conception
    2. EPLF & TPLF were buddy buddies.
    3. EPLF & TPLF synched to remove ELF out side of Eritrea
    4. TPLF fought in ሻድሻይ ወራር along with EPLF
    5. EPLF fought in Shire, Ambo, etc. all the way to Addis along with TPLF
    6. EPLF converts itself and became HGDF
    7. HGDF destroyed Eritrea and its people
    8. HGDF is the cancer of Eritrea
    9. HGDF is the MAIN enemy of Eritrea
    10. Hating foreign countries doesn’t make you a patriot. You are just not focussing.

    ነዚ ደጊምኩም ደቅሱ
    ክትረኽቡ ናይ ጸገምና ፈውሱ
    ኣይንዓሹ
    ‘ተዘይኮይኑ
    ‘ንዳ ህግደፍ ምሳና ትበርሱ

    Unless ድሌትኩም ከምኡ ‘ተዘይኮይኑ, ከም መራሒኹም ማለተይ ‘ዩ

  • Selam Moderators,
    I am puzzled with the message i get almost all the time: “Not secure”, and sometimes (not really rarely), i am blocked from visiting the comment page. Is there an explanation? Does it happen to other forumers as well?
    Thanks.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Horizon; yes it happens to me. Not only displays the NOT SECURE warning but at time, it prevents you from accessing the web-site. When that happens I close out the windows and open it up again and most of the times it works. I have no idea why it does that. may be the people who knows this thing will explain to us. So, it is not only you.

  • Kaddis

    Selam all –

    Now that Ethiopia is almost in the same position as Eritrea – in terms of accountability of its leader – I am here to get some reflections. My understanding currently is – Abiy and Isias’s biggest motivation for not being accountable to the people is total corruption. They get money from the gulf states beyond their imagination and they use part of the money to stay in power. I don’t see any ideological, spiritual, developmental, sovereignty … motivation but being corrupted, get money just like any other African despot like Al Bashir.

    Ethiopia is in this position because tplf failed to create public institutions,. Ethiopia is slightly different because some regions ( tigray and part of oromia, probably soon Somali) can resist Abiy’s direct rule. Any reflections helps.

    Cheers,

    • Nitricc

      Now that Ethiopia is almost in the same position as Eritrea – in terms of accountability of its leader – I am here to get some reflections.

      They shouldn’t be. None of them are elected by the people i.e. they have no responsibility to be accountable to no one but to their own virtue and duty.

      My understanding currently is – Abiy and Isias’s biggest motivation for not being accountable to the people is total corruption

      No! since they weren’t elected, till election comes, this gap gives them the chance to do what they think is right with out being accountable, questioned or harassed.

      They get money from the gulf states beyond their imagination and they use part of the money to stay in power. I don’t see any ideological, spiritual, developmental, sovereignty … motivation but being corrupted, get money just like any other African despot like Al Bashir.

      Again, It is believed PMAA to accept large amount of money from the Arabs but no one is sure what PIA is getting. It is understood PMAA is to gain more money than PIA because PIA doesn’t have GERED to sell. I have very hard time to think PMAA is corrupted but he seems to waste the money on trivial and show-off items. However; PMAA is pending his money on new and sophisticated weapons. Once he receives his weapons, he will have the mother of military show that will shock the Killiles. And he will give the ultimatum to all killies and that should solve some of his headaches, especially with TPLF. Once PMAA elected, he will become one of ruthless and strict leader. He is buying his time while testing the waters.

      • bardavidi

        Hi……Nitric…….From the begining your statement is off the wall…….PMAA is elected by an elected body and Periodically reports to the Parliament that is also directly elected by the Public ……..Thus accountable to an elected body with a Legal mandate to rule……..However you seem to by pass those facts and relate it to Isaias, who is not elected and does not have anyone to account for his actions…….Thus no Legal mandate to rule……….How do you relate those two as If they were similar………Do not let your Vision Blurr ….in theory. for Reality is in Facts alone………Stick to the Facts on your Basics……Selah

        • Nitricc

          …….From the begining your statement is off the wall…….PMAA is elected by an elected body and Periodically reports to the Parliament that is also directly elected by the Public

          that is not true; I don’t know if you remembered but that was the election where the TPLF thugs announced they won 100%. Anytime you hear 100% election wining, run for your life. So, you are wrong there was no election that placed PMAA in to office. this puts PIA and PMAA to be out of public accountability. The only time they can be held accountable by the people is when there was an election and the people have elected their leaders directly and then only then the leaders should answer and accountable to the people. Till that day, PIA and PMAA are free to do what they think is right without explaining anything to the people. By the way, I have never observe an African leader who was/is accountable by the people. Never, so you choose to live in denial and I choose to live in real time. Tell me one African leader who is accountable to his/her people? I rest my case.

          • bardavidi

            Hi….Nitric……FYI..The EPRDF assembly is an Elected body by its regional Constituents according to the Constitution……..From the 3 candidates that were presented Dr.Abiy won the most votes to win the Prime Minister position and later on approved by the Parliament as well……….Thus totally Democratic and Lawfull in their way of doing things………Because you do not Like or Approve of their ways does not make it an Autocratic system or Corrupt…….Those terms are Reserved for actual deeds and not Theories or Dislikes and that is Exactly why I said Stick to the Facts……..He has an Opposition from Within but, they are not claiming he is Corrupt, or Autocratic which is far as you can get from the Truth………They are saying they do not like his Policies and Affiliations……….Which is Legitimate and acceptable……Line it up in a Proper format for Credibility……….Selah

          • Nitricc

            FYI..The EPRDF assembly is an Elected body by its regional Constituents according to the Constitution.

            Hi Selah; I really don’t know how to respond to you. you seem sold to the idea of Ethiopian fake election, fake constitution and fake assembly. In Ethiopia there is no election what you have is selection. You are selected because of who you are? what ethnic you belong to, weather you are a party loyal member and the lists goes on. It is so much I approved or not but any so-called democratic system tells you it won 100%; if you are a reasonable person, you must reject but from what you telling me, you believed it and you have this faith on this corrupted system. I am sorry only corrupted people believe in corrupted system. Get this to your head; in Ethiopia there is fake election, fake constitution, fake assembly, fake system and fake everything. i.e. PMAA have no mandate to inform or update the people of Ethiopia. All PMAA has to do is, he got do everything that he must be selected in the next fake election. Do you know why I like the system in Eritrea? you have none of those nonsense. I rather have 100% Eritrean system than Ethiopian way when it comes the line of politics.

          • Abi

            Hello bardavidi
            You are መቶ በመቶ ( 100 %) wrong about the EPRDF and the fake elections.

          • bardavidi

            Hi….Nitric……I give up on that Fake this and Fake that Theory……..However……..Let me know when your Birthday is, so I can send you a Bottle of Whiskey to Sober you up in to Reality……..I heard the Reverse has a Good result on some………Selah

          • Abi

            Hello bardavidi
            My birthday is December 25.
            Waiting for the whiskey… make it double black. Thanks ለቸርነትህ

          • bardavidi

            Hi….Abi…….On my calender that is the week when all the children of ….Korich…….will be scrambling back to Asmara due to the Departure of their Beloved-Isaias………Are you Sure you will not get Re-shuffled by then…???………Selah

          • Abi

            Hello bardavidi
            Is this a ስትራቴጂካዊ ማፈግፈግ?
            Just send the whiskey. It tastes better without Isu Chisu in the picture.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ቁርሲ ነጢረ ናብ ምሳሕ
    ድራር ዘይርከቦ ሎሚ ኾነ ጽባሕ
    ሰለስተ መግቢ ኣብ መዓልቲ
    ካብ ተቖጸረ ምፍሳሕ
    ተራእዩ ኣይ ፈልጥን
    ከም መግዛእቲ ህግደፍ ረሳሕ

    ‘ንታይ ‘ዩ ዕዳላ ‘ዛ ሃገር?
    ባዕዳውያን ገዛእቲ ሓሊፎም ተበልናስ
    ዝገደደ ናይዚ ፈገር
    ወረ ምስ መን ‘ዩ ዝምከር???

    ንሳቶም ባዕዳውያን ንሱ ውን ባዕዳዊ
    ሓሊፉ ተበልና ናይ መንጌ
    ከም ኡውን ናይቲ ቀደማዊ
    ብ ኣፉ ከምስል ሰላማዊ

    ለካ
    ህግደፍ ‘ውን መቐጸልታ
    ዘይውዳእ ሓተታ
    ናይ ዘመንና መርጌታ
    ሰዓብቱ ኸ መን ዮም??
    መንደሎ ዩ ዞም ደቂ ብላታ
    ባንዴራ ተጠምጢመን ዝስዕባ-ዝስዕቡ ኮታ
    ብሃውሪ ይጉተቱ ይጉተታ
    ‘ንዳተንፈሱ ከም-ዝሞቱ-ከም-ዝሞታ
    ባቃ

    ስለዚ
    ህግደፍ ናትና ይኮነን
    ካብ መጀመርት ኡውን ኣይነበረን
    ካባና ኣይተፈጥረን

    መጫጭሒ ጸገም
    ምስኡ ኣይትጸጋዕ ተኣለ ከይትልከም
    ሰዓብቲ ህግደፍ ‘ንዳ ጋዕ-ገልጠም
    ኣይተዋጸአኩምን ‘ያ ምስ ኮነት ተጠማጠም
    ‘ተዘይ ሰማዕካስ ኣብ ሳሊና ምስጣም

    ወረ ገሊኣቶምሲ PhD ዝጸዓኑ
    ገዛውቶም ከም ገዛውትና ክዓኑ

    ሃገር ጽቡቕ ኣላ ይብሉ
    ን ደላይ ፍትሒ ከሕንኩሉ
    ‘ንዳ ጠላማት ሰብ-ኣሉ
    ሓሞቶም ዝተሓድጉ ጎሓሉ
    ዝገርምዩ
    ኣብ ግዜ ራህዋሲ ናበይ ዮም ኮን ከብሉ???
    ዝሩጋት

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    Our own Saay wrote this piece to highlight the trapping of the Eritrean refugees in Ethiopia between our despot “dotard Issayas and Doctor Deb” who is the victim of his manipulation in the domestic politics of Ethiopia. Enjoy reading

    http://www.eritreadigest.com/doctor-abi-doctor-deb-dotard-isaias-eritreans-caught-in-the-middle/?fbclid=IwAR0JDz3cb0V7OLCr4CHLcclEdPl1oUzmLxcFQZOuesd8WNyCxwtHZ2syDGA

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      Hi Emma,
      This is really funny: Dr Abiy, Dr Deb, and Dotard Issayas.
      This guy, Saay, is THE Johnny Ive of Eritrea!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas (Deki Adey)

    Pls listen to this young brilliant and courageous sister. The command of her language and the clarity of her message is amazing. Yes Alewuna! Alewana BihaQi!!

    https://youtu.be/Rr9t6PPxPQg

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Aman,

      Yes this young sister, I wish her long life,,I hope every one of us will listen to this very interesting message..

      KS,,

  • Brhan

    Salam Awate,
    I would like to share one of the news paper coverage to the recent DIA visit to Saudi Arabia

    DIA said before the visit that the Red Sea alliance that is sponsored by the Saudi Arabia is not significant. So the Saudis invited him to know what is up with him. DIA wants to raise the price ( zenazajel.com) 4 days ago
    my take : it is not only Trump who milks the cow!
    Have a nice week end

  • Desbele

    Hi Awatewian,

    I came across a documentary about the Kunama Refugee ‘ Home Across Lands’ . You may find it interesting. https://vimeo.com/312563065

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት ዓዋተ

    ጎተናኡ ኣንዊሑ ዝግድድ ሰብ ጭሕሙ ክላጺ
    ናይ ሰብ ኣስናን ኣሽሪፉ ንበይኑ ክፋጺ
    ዝተበሃልኩሞ ግበሩ ‘ናበለ ኣይኮንኩን ዓማጺ
    ኢሉ ዝሰብኽ ሕሉፍ ተበላጺ
    ንፍትሒ ረጋጺ
    ንደቂባት ‘ባ በብሓደ ኣስጊርዋ ንፋጺ

    በዓል መሃንዘል ግና ገና ዘይለበሙ
    በውፈረቶም እግሪ-እግሮም ‘ንዳተቐርሰሙ
    ——–ፍሽኽ ይብሉ
    ——–ከምስሉ
    ውሽጦም ከምዘይ ሓመሙ
    ኣንጭዋ ከምዝረኣዩ ደማሙ
    ኣነ ነፍዕ ኣነባ ክብሉ ‘ቀዳደሙ
    ግን ቆብ ኣበልናዮም ከይሰጎሙ

    ምሁራት ክመስሉ ብዙሕ ቁንቁኛ ይዛረቡ
    ኣለና ይብሉ ምሳና ‘ንዳ ዓረቡ
    ክሕድ ‘ንካ ኣበልዎ ነቲ ጅግና
    ዓረር ጥይት ዝዓለቦ ኣብ ኣፍ ልቡ

    ነዞም ከሓድቲ ናጻ ከውጽእ
    ቶንኮለኛታት ግን ኣብ ውሽጢ ድፋዕ ሕብእ

    መሬት ምስ ጸሓየ
    ከምዚ ዝገበርኩ ጅግና ኣነ’የ

    ክብሉ ኣይሓፈሩን
    እምበር ቀደምሲ ከምዚ ኣይነበሩን
    ደቕደቕዎም ኣብ ስጅን
    ንበዓል ቢተወደድ እሙን

    ‘ዞም ሕፈረት-ኣልቦ
    ዋናኦም ምስጠፈአስ ኣለዎም ዶ ይኸውን መዓልቦ?
    ‘ዞም ፍንፉናት ኣይተረደኦምን ከምዝስእኑ መዋስቦ
    በዓል ባዶ-ሓቦ
    እምበር በዓል ባዶ-ሓቦ

  • Hashela

    ደርቂ

    ኣብ ዓድና ነጊሱ ናይ 20 ዓመታት ደርቂ
    ጓሶት ተመሲሎም ሸቃጦ እዛረቡ ኣለዉ መደነቂ

    ወጦጦና ምስተን ደሓልፋ ኣጣሎም ተገሪዙ ከይዱ
    ደረዲእዎ ርባ ሰገሪ መስኣተወ ኣብድይ ዓዱ
    ሳልስቲ ከይሓለፈ ኣብ ዕዳጋ ወሪዱ
    ነጋዳይ ‘ለካቲቲ 11’ ተራእዩ ከልማጽ መረቅ ተንጻባርቅ ኢዱ

    እወ መሪር ሽግር ኣለና
    ምፍቲሒኡ ንድለዮ ኣብ ገዛና

    • Kokhob Selam

      Wow Hashela;;

      Nice man,,

      “ኣብ ዓድና ነጊሱ ናይ 20 ዓመታት ደርቂ
      ጓሶት ተመሲሎም ሸቃጦ እዛረቡ ኣለዉ መደነቂ”

      KS,,

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ሓሸላ
      ይበል ግጥሚ

      ህዝቢ ኤርትራ መንጎ ናቱን እንዳማቱን L-Fronts ተቓቒሩ
      ኣመሓዳሪኡ፡ ኩሉ ድሕሪ ሰላም ይብል ሎኲቱ ዓቲሩ
      ማዕዶ ዘሎ ይብል ሰላም ኰንና ኢና ንዑ ስገሩ
      ከም ውኻርያ ንኣርሓ ደርሆ ዝደገሞ መዝምሩ
      መሬት ሒዙ ኣጣጢሑ ተገቲሩ
      ገለ ተቓወምቲ ካብ ኦም ወሪዶም ይጽንበሩ
      ተዋሪዱ ምስኪን ህዝቢ እንታት ከምዝኸውን ንሓዋሩ
      ተስፋ ንገብር ከም ዝበልካዮ ደቂ ዓዲ ክበራበሩ
      ካብዚ መጻወድያ ንኽወጹ ባዕሎም ንባዕሎም ዝጽሕትሩ

      • Hashela

        ሃይላ

        ኣየ ክእልት ኣየ ሜላ
        እንካ እዛ ግጥሚ ወስኸላ

        ጠለባቶም ገሪሙና
        ግጠመልና ድብሉ ንወናምና
        ከምደይ ዘመቱ ስእሊ ጀጋኑና
        ከምደይ ዘመቱ ምቁር ሰውራዊ ደርፍና
        ከምደይ ዘመቱ ምቁር ሰውራዊ ዜማና

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatawian,

    The European Parliament calls for conditions on EU aid for Eritrea. Here is an excerpts from an article by Martin Plaut, February 20, 2020.

    “In a difficult hearing for the European Commission, EU Parliamentarians asked why aid was being given to Eritrea to fund road building that clearly violated Europe’s pledges to uphold human rights. The Committee heard from a number of experts, including Laetitia Bader of Human Rights, who pointed out powerfully that: “…it appears that the EU has chosen to accept the risk of indirectly supporting forced labor by engaging in a construction project – one of the most abusive sectors – and accepting that not even the most basic checks and balances are in place. The EU should do better. Measures should be put in place to ensure that EU funding and other activities do not contribute to the abusive system of forced labor in Eritrea.”

    • Sultan M.G.

      Selam Awatistas::

      I see the EXCITEMENT as we speak!

      Blocking a critical Aide for Humanitarian Reasons and Critical Development Projects for any reason is the WORST Human Rights Abuse..as simple as that.

      Mafrtin Plaut who?

      Sounds familiar bravados and fake Activism?

      This is the same old new sabotage against Eritrea and Eritreans by same crooked and evil people and agents with a NON-ending Destructive and EVIL Agenda against Eritrea and Eriteans.

      It was yesteday’s history here at this same site where the so called Human Rights Activists and Pseudo-Eritreans/Opposition Groups were exposed with their pants down when they publiclly protested and petitioned against the $ 300 Million EU Development Funds foe Eritrea and ERITREANS when Eritrea and Eritreans needed that aide critically..whne they were between a Life and Death Situation due to the destrcutive polciesof No war No Peace,under a deadly illegal sanctions and under the owrst economic,political,diplomatic and military saboage …

      The hypocisy is that this was while the TPLF janda was enjoying twice as much funds by the same EU and same year;and worse,Germany even funded same criminal Janda with $500 Million to create jobs for the Erittrean Refugees in Ethiopia….ratrher than funding those projects in Eritrea to keep those poor refugees at home.
      That is the HYPOCRISY of the century and those hypcrites NEVER said a word against this scam of the century.but worse,they supported it.

      That is what i am talking about.

      • Nitricc

        Mr. Sultan; please don’t be rude; let him enjoy his moment. Anything that hurt Eritrea is the cause for celebration. if not what kind of person reports of Mafrtin Plaut? you got it, only dead TPLF junky. Seriously, Mafrtin Plaut ? Wow, god have mercy on the dead souls.

      • Paulos

        Sultan,

        Why can’t the cruel old man allow international agencies to come to Eritrea so that they can verify all the atrocities including political prisoners and the free human labor he reaps of the young conscripts?

        Don’t you think that is the way forward instead of you running your confused and nonsense talk day in day out? ዕድለኛ ዝኾነ መራሒ፣ He scr*ws you over and you can’t get enough of him when you ask for more to the extent of bailing him out of his broad daylight crime. ናይ ብሓቂ ትገርሙ ህዝቢ ኢኹም!

        • Sultan M.G.

          Dottore;
          Funny that you are talking about something unrelated stuff.
          My comment is specifically and exclusively about petitioning against the critically needed development aide for Eritrea and needy Eritreans.It is a crime to do so.
          We should separate gossip and politics from real business.
          I listened to a video clip from SINIT Group(Drs Sara Ugbay and Ibrahim Siraj and Eng Sengal moderated by Ms.karwel(sorry didn’t catch her name well)last weekend and here is what Dr Ibrahim Siraj declared;
          “We already decided/declared that the Dude should step down or GO” since he is IRRELEVANT”, when asked to comment on that Dude’s interview.
          Aren’t we shouting ENOUGH/YeAkil,Kifayya,Aktra,keffenna…”?

          Complaining about “Not letting NGOs or the UN or any entity to verify things or the situation”…is not an issue anymore…
          And commenting positively and telling the truth in defense of Eritrea and Eritreans does not mean adoring or defending the regime—just let you know.
          If you guys believe that the only way of criticizing the regime or protesting against it and its crimes is ONLY THRU YOUR WAY,then,indeed,ናይ ብሓቂ ትገርሙ ህዝቢ ኢኹም!

          • Paulos

            Selam Sultan,

            My issue with the people you mentioned–Sara, Ibrahim, Sengal and others is that why can’t they assert the fact that, it is the cruel old man himself who should make the case of withholding or not the aid for Eritreans. Why do they have to do it on his behalf where they are being beaten with the rules of his own game.

            The truth of the matter is–ናይ ኤርትራ ህዝቢ ካብቲ ዝሓለፎ ንላዕሊ ኣመጾን’ዩ፣ እቲ ዝኸፍአ ርእይዎን ጼርዎን’ዩ።

          • Sultan M.G.

            Doc:
            EXACTLY my point; and the point of the SINNIT GROUP!
            Enough is enough is the message.
            The time is NOT about moaning or whining or about what he said or has done but about ACTION -STAT!
            My only beef with those Group is that we do NOT need proliferating Groups or new ideas every Winter or Summer but coming together and acting effectively and efficiently through newly crafted effective strategies!
            I know that it is kind of “easy said than done” but it should be DONE!

      • Sultan M.G.

        Thanks Mod.
        The reason I deleted some of my comments was personal, not coz I didn’t like or didn’t read them well before I posted them; neither I deleted them coz they are bad or offensive!
        In fact, they were legit and decent responses .
        U can repost them since you passed a judgement on me, if that can change your unfair perception and judgement!
        Cheers!
        Blessed evening.

      • Tesfamichael Tewolde

        “The victim of attempt murder who has not been visited by President Isaias Afeworki. Genral Sebhat Efrem. When will the supporters of the government start asking questions? What happened to the former Defense Minister? Why is he not shown in the government media?”

        You better clean your house first!

        • Sultan M.G.

          Sir:
          We have to clean all the mess from inside and outside.

  • Nitricc

    Hi all; whenever PIA preaches about national pride and self-reliance;
    I hear the usual haters , namely the Agazian apologists trashing PIA’s takes.
    But What I have seen on the 45th TPLF’s celebration; I can’t be more
    embarrassed, mortified and self-conscious. 45 years ago, an organization launches
    a movement that took 17 years of fighting and claimed according the TPLF top
    dummies “65K” it is not coincidence that number is chosen. The Eritreans documented to lose 65k of lives on their 30 years struggle, yet, the supreme fighters of TPLF, how they managed to lose exactly the same number for fighting almost for fighting half of what the Eritreans fought for. The idea is to claim every Eritrean gallantry and make Tigray’s history i.e. there will be no Eritrea and Tigray. In short; they want to muddy the waters and to confuse people. I will not be surprised for those who stand with weyane on this website and doing every dirty job of Weyne, they could be paid and they have sold their soul to the highest order.
    That wasn’t my main point though; I am ashamed a poletical organization who led 100+ people country, not only run in to their killil tails placed between their legs but they reduced in to making cardboard missiles, donkeys pained their flags, cows were not spared. What was the most bazar is there was a dog covered with their flag and the dog was armed with gun. I mean you talk about falling grace. If the Tigray people didn’t wake up and stop these TPLF thugs, I see no future. My question is who approved to make and display those childish art works? That was simply humiliating for the people of Tigray.

  • sara

    selam Awtistas,
    what a coincidence! Eritreans at home remembering the atrocities 45 years ago to residents
    of Asmara and its environs, and in north Ethiopia celebration of the start of a revolt .

    • Paulos

      Sara,

      The same atrocities took place with the same magnitude and intensities in Tigrai and the rest of Ethiopia as well. For instance, far more young Tigreans were killed in Tigrai than in Eritrea during the “Red Terror” thanks to Eritrean ፈዳይን when they nipped ጸጋ-ልኡል in the bud before he unleashed the “Red-Terror” in Eritrea particularly in Asmara.

    • Nitricc

      Hey Sara; don’t believe it. I research mid 1975 in Tigray history and nothing has happened. I will post what happened on both sides of the border. But again the agazians are up in arms to destroy Eritrea and her history. it is not going to happen. Just remember their goal is greater Tigray to do this they must undermine, commit historical events, you know like Massawa was freed by TPLF fighters. The BS goes on. They lie, they deceit and they have no sham what so ever. So, just you know the truth what is up. You can’t respect people who have no respect for them selves.

      • sara

        selam Gen Nitricc,
        honestly , i dont know a lot about those times except that what is verbally
        told stories of asmara starting 1975…i.e, students,young and old civilian
        disappearances, tortures, killings that made asmara a Ghost cit as many
        also went into hiding into villages in the country.
        I think, we need full account of those sad days recorded in our history books.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Sara; I wasn’t here either nor I have more knowledge that the average person. What makes our time of life is uniqe is that you won’t be taking for a ride by paid agents. All is in the internet, just looked it up. First TPLF didn’t start their struggle against Derg, No! They started against King Hailesilase. TPLF started their struggle not to throw Derg but the king. When Derg was in the middle of it in all corners, EPRP in the capital, EDU in the middle region, EPLF and EPLF in Northern region; TPLF was having coffee in Dedebit. It is true, they manage to destroy TLF by deceit the entire organization was massacred. TPLF called for unity and reconciliation with TLF; they slaughtered an oxen, they ate together, they dance and then when TLF went sleep, TPLF unleashed its evil act and massacred the whole organization. Why do you think PIA never had a shred of trust on TPLF thugs? Because Thugs are always thugs, they revert to what they know best, deceit. lie, trickery and of course theft. .

          • Samuel

            Hi Nitriic,
            Who is your target audience? You don’t have to be mad on the success of TPLF, you just have to mind your business. If you believe TPLF has reduced to Mekelle then good for you, why are you so worried about? If you are writing day in and day out about TPLF then there must be something that you worried. May be the game over mantra isn’t really over yet? Or do they look stronger? I know your main objective is to distract but don’t make it too obvious.

            Thanks,

          • Nitricc

            Hey Samuel; I know you people live in fantasy that realty but what success are you talking about? Making a mesial out of cardboard? I have done that when I was in second grade. my audience is to those always double speakers who are sitting on the land don’t belong to them. It is a game to you but wait and see, if those old and corrupted will save the day. Get out of the land and we speak no more.

          • Tesfamichael Tewolde

            Mr. Nitricc,

            “Af sikefet chinklat yitayal?” means who you are is clear from what you write. You act as if you know the history of TPLF while you obviously know nothing at all.
            So, why don’t you mind your own business!

          • Nitricc

            Ato TT; why can’t you get the hell out of Eritrea land and tell me to own my business? The problem is you guys think you are the sharpest knife in the kitchen: NO, you are the dumbest and you will pay for your stupidity. Now, just leave the land that doesn’t belong to you. and then you shall not hear from a single TRUE Eritrean.

          • Samuel

            Selam Nitricc,
            Border demarcation is federal government task, thus DIA has to work with PMAA and boundary commission to make that happen. If this is important to DIA shouldn’t he urge PMAA to demarcate the border? At least try to follow the rules and then see what excuses are left. He is the president thus he has to ask PMAA.
            Based on your own best assessment TPLF’s power has been reduced to Mekelle, they are the dumbest, they are barking dog they can’t bite, they are weak. I can pull-out all the names you have used to describe TPLF. Let say you are 100% right, how is this dumb, weak, worthless and can’t bite group become your nightmare?

            If PMAA was able to make decisions on GERD then why can’t he make similar stand on demarcation? Don’t you think PMAA has to be responsible to make that decision?
            If I were you I would have urged DIA, PMAA and boundary commission to make final decision on when and how the demarcation should take place.

            Your obsession with TPLF is limitless. The peace agreement between Eritrea and Ethiopia was signed by IA and PMAA, thus demarcation should be done by the same leaders because it is federal government task. Ethiopia regional states don’t have authority on international border disputes. They can be important players but the task should be at federal level. We haven’t heard any development from federal government or border commission on this regard, thus blaming TPLF is just an excuse to keep DIA power.

            My two cents for you, follow the rules, first try to do your job that is ask DIA to work with PMAA and border commission to resolve the issue, then we will see who is the obstacle. Urge your dictator to urge border commission and PMAA to resolve it ASAP.

            Thanks,

          • Abi

            Hello Samuel
            If border demarcation is the duty of the federal government, why didn’t Meles obey the ruling? Why are you bringing the issue to the current administration?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Ras Abiy; great question and good luck getting any answer from a mother of deception, TPLF thugs.

          • Abi

            Hello General
            The problem with this thugs is they think we are all drunk like them.
            Nah! We are sober and mindful of what they are doing.
            As I said before Ethiopia has no business occupying Eritrean territories.

          • Samuel

            Selam Abi,
            What kind of fallacy is that? Just because the previous admin couldn’t able to resolve the dispute thus PMAA shouldn’t try to do it?
            Just FYI, I have made known my stand on MZ, he made a grave mistake for not able to resolve the issue, it has no importance to Tigray or Ethiopia, it was all political, thus it was wrong then to delay the demarcation (MZ and HD).
            Hailemariam has tried more than 80 times (based on his own word), however IA wasn’t interested to move the issue forward for obvious reasons. However after PMAA came to power IA didn’t take him much time to accept the request, that shows you why he rejected it before. If they had a good intention to demarcate the border they should have made every agreement they signed public.

            It takes two to tango, thus I can understand why IA has refused the previous administration request, because he was the big loser and cheater thus he didn’t want to make peace with his adversary, but it doesn’t make him right.
            Every administration have their own challenges, however there must be a good intention behind every decision they make. PMAA should stop conspiring with IA against his own people, he should work to the best interest of all Ethiopian people. By the same token, IA should work to best interest of Eritrean people.
            If PMAA keeps conspiring with DIA against Tigray interest, do you think its fare for TPLF to stay silent?

            Thanks,

          • Hashela

            Selam Samuel

            You repeatedly stated here that it is important to be honest. I suggest that you be the role model for that novel advise.

            Abiy was the first Ethiopian PM to announce the unconditional Ethiopia’s acceptance of the final and binding decision of the EEBC.

            The circular dance (ሓሸውየ) of “we accept it in principle” (PMMZ) and “people-to-people” (current position of TPLF) is a transparent gimmick designed to buy time.

          • Samuel

            Selam Hashela,
            If you see any inconsistency from what I have stated then you can challenge me on that otherwise it’s just…. No one has the monopoly of the truth, if you see misstatement you can point that out.
            Look, I am stating what I believe and know, if you think the Eritrean people has been benefited by PMAA peace agreement then I will leave that for you. Personally I don’t see it that way.
            There are thousands of reasons how we got to where we are today, regardless how much we argue about the past we can’t change it. If you think it is important to dwell in the past then I will leave that for you, personally I don’t like to dwell in the past unless there is a right reason for it.

            At the end of the day if anyone of them have evil intentions they will be defeated, if they have the right intentions they will win. One thing is true about both leaders, they are not principled and worst of all both are narcissistic.

            Thanks,

          • Abi

            Hello Samuel
            You are sweating to absolve the past blunders of the tplf thugs while shifting the responsibilities to the current administration.
            እንደ ዺላጦስ እጅ መታጠብን ተክነህበታል::

          • Selam Samuel,

            Let me ask you, do you think that the people of Eritrea had benefited from two decades of tplf’s no war no peace? Can you really compare it with today’s situation? The fact that the people of Eritrea have peace of mind and they are no more worried with tplf waging war against it anymore, is the biggest gift for people who have lived under fear of war all the time.
            Maybe not everything is as expected, but the future is better relatively compared with the past, especially when compared with living next to tplf that commanded a big army. The biggest challenge for the rapprochement is the fact that prisons have failed to open. The only possibility they could open, in my opinion, is if the agreement succeeded, the economy received a boost and people taste the fruits, and IA is brought from the cold, as long as there is no one inside the country to challenge him. That is when he will be forced to open Eritrea to the world, and governments could approach him and demand for human rights, from within Eritrea and not from far away. This time eritreans may not want to lose everything for the second time, and they may be forced to say at last enough is enough. What PMAA had done is taking a step different from others, by working and maybe taming IA instead of pushing him back into his shell, isolate him and bring out his wild nature.
            As much as badme is concerned, tplf has said the biggest lies. It signed to accept the ‘final and binding’ decision infront of the world community and later backtracked, SM, tplf FM, unashamedly said the second biggest lie to the Ethiopian people that badme was awarded to Ethiopia although as the FM, he was the first person who receive the final decision on his hand.
            There aren’t thousands of reasons, but only one reason for how we got where we are today. It was due to the hate MZ/TPLF and (not the people of Tigray) had (continue to have) for Ethiopia.
            The past is still with us. Tplf is doing what it knows best as usual. Tplf is undermining and destabilising Ethiopia and working to disintegrate it. Ethiopia had yet to pass the tplf Rubicon to a stable future.
            If tplf leaders are principled, it is only for the wrong reason – the reason that will hurt Ethiopia and the whole region, and not for anything good. Tplf is ready to take the whole region with it to war. Hence DT is saying that Ethiopia is amassing force to invade his killil. Tplf’s love affair with war, if it is a real one and not a bravado, although i believe that it is the second one, shows its bitterness for losing power to exploit Ethiopia. Otherwise, they would have said, there is not only one way, our way, as normal people would say, and let us give chance to others as well. Blinded as they are with their personal and insatiable interest, they have chosen the way to hell for the whole region

          • Hashela

            Selma Horizon
            This is one of the few insightful and sensitive analyses coming from an Ethiopian at this forum. Thanks also for the skillful skinning of the TPLF cat.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            “Taming” will be a fertile ground for dictatorship. If you believe on taming you should not be concerned on dictatorship. In fact you should be more concerned about the taming of our young generation – the “YPFDJ” who are being tamed through indoctrination and brainwashing, and the “NNNN” lots who are the fanfare of “Nisu”. Words in politics have different meaning than the normal usage in communities which is to make them friendly. Taming in politics means controlling the consciousness of a societies. Just to remind you.

            Regards

          • Nitricc

            In fact you should be more concerned about the taming of our young generation – the “YPFDJ”

            An original cadre from Dedebit couldn’t have said it better than the paid one.

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            I was responding to Horizon’s hope that Abiy may have a better handling of our erratic despot. You are right, words have meaning and impact especially in our highly politicized environment. That said, we should not lose the joy of casual conversation. Context matters.

            Respectfully

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            Your question, “do you think that the people of Eritrea had benefited from two decades of tplf’s no war no peace?” The “no war no peace” has never benefited anyone from day one and still continues. Today, because of the rapprochement “may be” few Eritreans who can afford to fly from Asmara to Addis Ababa may have benefited, I am not sure, I don’t have facts to back it up. Otherwise nothing has changed.

            About MZ on demarcation, as I said it before, as soon as the war ended border demarcation should have taken place, that was a complete failure of MZ leadership, every excuse that IA has used should have been closed long time ago. Considering his history and his level of deception IA could have created another excuse but the demarcation should have been done at that time.

            You said… “living next to tplf that commanded a big army”, really?? What about IA’s big army? somehow you are able to see TPLF’s big army but not IA’s army? Its irony, I am not sure how you recall history but Badme war was instigated by IA, that tells you a lot about the behavior of the despot in the North. Thus, better to be ready than say sorry.

            You said … “There aren’t thousands of reasons, but only one reason for how we got where we are today. It was due to the hate MZ/TPLF”. Really? Who started the war? Who said “ከባድመ ወጣን ማለት ፀሓይ በምእራብ ወጥታ በምስራቅ ትጠልቃልች ማለት ነው።”?
            It may seem easy to blame MZ for all wrongdoings now, but for your information MZ was against the war, he voted against it (PMAA confirmed about his record) however he lost the majority vote thus he was forced to go to the war.
            At the beginning of the war Ethiopians were blaming MZ favoring Eritrea, now you are accusing MZ for all wrongdoings that happened to Eritreans? What is the need for the seesaw? You could have said MZ and IA share the blame for the war and the eventuality of the war.

            My observation on your comment, don’t try to appease anyone, it will lead you to unwanted territory, specially siding with dictators. If you look your message you are trying to justify IA’s decisions, you are trying to make as if the future is bright with his leadership, really? You can’t teach an old dog new tricks, he is simply a nasty dictator, he careless about his own people. He is conspiring against his own people “refugee camp” in Ethiopia for example, this much he is disgusting. He is unprincipled and narcissistic individual.

            By the way, why are you obsessed with dictators? You have this deep love for Menelik, HS and Derg, now you are trying to appreciate IA service. It seems strange.

            Just FYI, you are naïve about IA, wherever there is peace you can’t find IA there, even if he is hibernating it doesn’t mean he is in peace, thus don’t try hard to rationalize about him.

            Thanks,

          • Selam Samuel,
            “MZ was against the war”. Is it because he knew badme belonged to eritrea, or was it because he hadn’t the heart to fight Eritrea his mother’s land, as people used to say. If badme were Eritrean land, and he was at the zenith of his power, why didn’t he come out and declare that eritrea got back is land, and no damage was done, instead of sending tens of thousands of young Ethiopians to their death. Don’t you think that was an inhuman act? Why didn’t he resign so that somebody else takes the blame and thus remain in history? You can’t absolve him. Tens of thousands young Ethiopians lost their lives in vain during his dictatorial rule for the sake of war he didn’t believe in, but was ready to take pride by saying ‘we have broken the backbone of the enemy’, more or less saying it will never be able to walk again, even then only to turn a victory in the battlefield to a defeat at the negotiation table. Where did you see an aggressor loses a war and finally comes out a winner, unless it is in tplf’s book? Give back badme and let Ethiopians and Eritreans have their peace.
            Last time you said it is in the hands of the federal government. It is not. We can imagine what tplf is saying behind the scene, such as, the federal government is giving away their land while tplf is against it. The aim is to create a rift, a confrontation of the federal government with the people of Tigray, as tplf tried to do with the movement of the army from the border to other regions.
            What i am saying is that it is of no use saying over and over again the same thing, doing nothing at the same time, and expecting a different result. Why not try something different instead of waiting for the natural demise of the Eritrean dictator? Can you live for decades and still counting under such conditions? Should Eritrea be completely empty before you realize it, while hundreds of people escape just to Ethiopia everyday, if we leave out things that could be happening at the Sudanese border. Why wish it for somebody else? Already a generation has been lost, should we condemn another generation as well, because the type of change is not to the taste of the people who are not at the receiving end?
            I would have asked you the same question, why do you defend tplf dictatorship, that is here with us as we speak and not in the past, we lived and live it? Ethiopians who have suffered in its hands are here and they tell us their story, unless you don’t want to believe them. Tplf still conspires against the country and its people. Don’t you think that Tplf is much more on the wrong side of history compared even to past Ethiopian leaders, who even though they had many sins, but not that of hating Ethiopia or undermining its unity?

          • Solomon

            Selam Horizon,

            “There aren’t thousands of reasons, but only one reason for how we got where we are today. It was due to the hate MZ/TPLF and (not the people of Tigray) had (continue to have) for Ethiopia.”

            Horizon, history of modern Ethiopia with all its problems doesn’t begin with MZ/TPLF. It begins with the atrocities Minilik committed against the Oromo people and all southern people of Ethiopia. Then he went on to sign the Wuchale treaty to divide the Tigringa speaking people into two so that they’ll not pose a threat to his rule.

            Then come HS who abrogated the federation with Eritrea to provoke the start of the liberation struggle by the Eritrean people, subjugate the people of Tigray to unseen desolation as the number one enemy to his throne, and subjugate the whole nations and nationalities of Ethiopia to create an empire that speaks one language, celebrates one culture and believe in one religion, in a country of more than 80 nations and nationalities with as much language and culture. Endless repressions led to the creation of numerous liberation fronts.

            Enter MH, he continued with all the atrocities and repressions his predecessors did and more until his demise by TPLF. This is more than 100 years history of Ethiopia .History of Ethiopia doesn’t begun with TPLF.

            What did MZ/TPLF do in the 27 years since then? They answered the question of nations and nationalities of Ethiopia for self-determination, to be educated by their own language, to be administered by their own children and so on. MZ/TPLF brought economic growth to Ethiopia which was recognized by the whole world. MZ/TPLF had begun building the GERD that unified the whole country. Where is the hate in this?

            “If tplf leaders are principled, it is only for the wrong reason – the reason that will hurt Ethiopia and the whole region, and not for anything good. Tplf is ready to take the whole region with it to war.”

            This is hollow propaganda. You don’t have any shred of evidence to support your claim. If MZ/TPLF had wanted to disintegrate Ethiopia they would have done it in the 27 years when they have all the power they needed. Even the Pastor is doing that in less than 2 years.

            TPLF are not crazy like your pastor in 4 kilo.They don’t want any war. If they had wanted war and chaos as you always say they had everything the Tank, the bank. But they surrendered power peacefully because they are rational unlike you.

          • Hashela

            Hi Solomon

            “Enter MH, he continued with all the atrocities and repressions his predecessors did and more until his demise by TPLF”.

            Really? You have no shame at a website called AWATE to negate the pivotal role played by the daughters and sons of AWATE in bringing down the Dergi.

            “ካብ ወዲ ጓል ወዲ ኸልቢ (ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ)” ድብሃል ምስላ ኣሎና። ካን ኽሕደትን ጥልመትን መለለዪ ናይ TPLF ኾይኑ።

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ካብ ወዲ ጓል ወዲ ኸልቢ (ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ)
            Really, Dr. Hashela?
            Wow, this reminding me a statement in a movie [ንጸሊም ዶክተር ‘ንታይ ኢልካ ትጽውዖ? ኒ_ር]
            ረሳሕ ቃላት ከምትዛረብ ዘለኻ ርደ አካ ዶ ሎ? ንደቂ ‘ንስትዮ ምሳና ከምዘይ ተሰወኣን ሰንከላን ‘ሲ ምስ ከልቢ ክትሰርዐን?
            ካብ ምህሮስ ኣእምሮ ዝበሉ ከምዚ ምስሰምዑ ዶ ይኾኑ?
            በጃኻ ተሰተር።

          • Hashela

            Selam Engineer

            please re-read my post. You will realize that the twist you are attempting to attach to my statement is not justified.
            With regard to the racial slur, you seem to overlook that you and I belong to the same race. So please don’t hurt yourself.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat, Dr. Hashela
            I believe you didn’t get what I was saying. Since you live the free world, you should know that is purely sexism.
            The slur about the Dr. is directly tied to your comment. You just need to replace the constant ሰበይቲ with ጸሊም ዶክተር

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            Again, choices of words, choices of phrases, and choices of adages really matters to help our argument. The old adage you have used demeans and belittle women and doesn’t help your argument. Words have consequences, and therefore, we have to filter them before we utter them or pens them down.

            Regards

          • Samuel

            Selam Hashela,
            Are you one of those pompous individuals out there? I thought this kind of narrative was from the likes of Nitricc, so this is embedded with you too. It’s really sad to see that this kind of language and LIE coming from you guys. Your choices of words tells a lot about you, you seem to be angry, what made you to be angry? The true story is EPLF freed Eritrea, TPLF freed Ethiopia, that’s it. It is true that there was help between them, but they did majority of their own challenge themselves, other than that what are you talking about?
            ካልእ እቲ ጉራ እንተኾይኑ ቅድሚ ሕዚ ሰሚዕናዮ ኢና። ስለዚ ለሚድናዮ ኢና::

            By the way, it is very well documented who participated in every war during Derg regime, which means actual evidences are available. Please stop this nonstop LIE. I thought you were serious individual.

            I used to hear such nonsense story long time back, I thought the case was closed but it seems the LIE is still there. My two cents, let’s respect each other’s please, unnecessary story and words isn’t helpful. We had common enemy and we fought together and won, no need to add any strings.

            ሕዚ’ካ መን ምኻንካ ፈሊጠካ ኣልኹ::

            Thanks,

          • Hashela

            Selam Samuel

            Look, I am not interested in lengthy back-and-forth arguments with you.
            The damage that TPLF has done and continues to do to Eritrea and Ethiopia will not be sugar-coated by you or other TPLF cadres. Here, you seem to confuse people’s silence and tolerance with an approval of your half-true and out right lies.

            ወድሓንካ

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selamat Prof Dr Hashela:
            Welcome to the club!
            What you said and what you UPHOLD has been what few of us here have been saying and upholding.
            Our legitimate protest and counter-offensive against such bravados, has been the major reason for our apparent “Confrontation “ ,which ultimately led to the banning of the alleged “PFDJ Trolls”!
            Silence?
            Why silent rather than calling the spade a spade?
            “ Menghidi TieNAN selamin amet kiddo”.
            “ Hakki Tezaribka ab Menghidi Babur dekis”
            Sorry Tigrinya is my 4th language after Blin,Tigrayit and Amharic..and at some Arabic,my fav language,which I lost near-completely after 35 yrs of not using it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Samuel,

            “ The true story is EPLF freed Eritrea, TPLF freed Ethiopia,”

            This statement is completely wrong. It denies the role of Eritrean struggle in the demise of the Derg regime. Second, it denies the role of our forces in the push out of the Derg regime up to Addis Abeba and beyond. Third, it denies the cooperation of the two organizations to defeat the Derg regime. Your statement is unrealistic and unfounded in the history of the two organizations.

          • Hashela

            Amanuel

            Do you remember our mothers’ song “ደይከዚአ’የ ደልየ ደይከዚአ ….”
            You made me sing like that.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            Talking the “truth” is very important for me, even the “truth” doesn’t serve my interest or the interest of my country. Because, at the end of the day talking false thing does not serve to yourself nor to your country. False defense is cheating.

          • Samuel

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            I think you are referring some part it, you should include the whole message. I said… “The true story is EPLF freed Eritrea, TPLF freed Ethiopia, that’s it. It is true that there was help between them, but they did majority of their own challenge themselves?”
            The part you copied is just general statement, however I have made clear that one has helped the other and vice-versa. Was the contribution of EPLF and TPLF crucial to one another? Yes it was very crucial. Do they have played a role to one another? Yes they did. But EPLF hasn’t done the job alone, TPLF hasn’t done the job alone either.
            I have nothing but respect for everyone involved, I just don’t like when people use extra words to try to make unfounded facts. My whole point is, no one can claim “ሓንጊራ ኣብ ዓዲ-ሰብ ደእተወትኩም”, No one carried anyone, the role was shared. I have heard that many times here and other places, those individuals are few but still it seems it has some kind of root. Correcting mistakes is good habit to follow.
            If you there is anything I have missed let me know, I am open to learn.

            Thanks,

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Mehandis,

            I don’t think you understood the context and the reason what Hashela said and why he said it. He is not insulting women or their contribution to society in general and to Eritrean ghedli in particular.

            He said “ካብ ወዲ ጓል ወዲ ኸልቢ (ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ)”. You can agree to disagree to this but has nothing to do being insulting women.

            Berhe

          • sara

            selam berhe,
            I and i am sure you agree , and respect the tplf s struggle in fighting
            Derg..( from what i read) and no eritrean denies this and their suffering. but to compare and contrast with eritrean liberation struggle is no brainier. the only thing different is they had a chance the past years investing hugely writing stories that was way exaggerated.
            for example… ask any one in the forum….. simple Q
            – which fronts did they demolish.. … example.. as nadew .. wqaw etc
            -which brigade,core,ezz etc did they smash…. how many, where?
            – and all what they did has eritrean contribution….that still doesnt mean they didnt fight feriously, they did.
            and i bet any one can provide you an answer to those Q

          • Nitricc

            Hi Sara; There is no a front that was destroyed by TPLF and only TPLF forces. After a long preparations they tried to knock down Shire-Endasilase which was occupied by CORE-604 Ethiopia army. They went ahead and tried Shire and in a battle of half a day, TPLF lost the greatest number of fighters in its history. Then not admitting their loses, they Ask EPLF for more armament and weapons. Once again 604 showed the TPLF and lost more fighters and TPLF army went in disarray. Then HAyelom made the call To Naqfa and asked for EPLF’s mechanized unite. EPLF came in and in six hours battle, the 604 core Ethiopian Army was seen in Gonder. The Point there is no front that was destroyed by TPLF sheer power. The last time they tried to penetrate and destroy was in Egri-Mekel where they overweight General cried for days. So, TPLF never faced a real battle nor they destroyed any major front on their existence. It is kind of hard to do those thing when you never operated a tank or 130mm. you know. In their 17 years fighting never able to operate tank. that should tell you about those people.

          • sara

            Dear G Nit,
            i said what i said not to belittle their struggle, but when you hear day
            day in day out bragging that tries to diminish our heroic contribution in
            the demise of the military government of those days…. is awful.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Sara say what ever you want but be happy they “TPLF” liberated for you Massawa. uha, now go thank them. the more you play the game of words the more they will come at you. Speak with clarity.

          • sara

            selam.. Gen Nit,
            Inshallah , i will— your advise is noted.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi sara,

            I agree absolutely. They have no shame, and even they come to Awate where I think most most of the forum participants are reasonable people who have a lot of personal experience and knowledge on Eritrean history can challenge them. First of all I don’t think it’s necessary, really. It’s history and it should be left as such. They should try to make and create another history. History of democracy, rule of law, human rights, economic freedom etc.

            Berhe

          • sara

            selam habibna Berhe,
            i still sympathize with those people who paid dearly in their struggle
            for equality etc in their country, and i hope , as you said going forward they work for those important things for a country.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sara,

            Yes, most defiantly, the young people died sacrificing their lives for a bigger purpose. I don’t think the Tigray intellectuals are capable of thinking to the future. Some how, I feel that they see their existence and prosperity tied by “subjugating” others, be it Ethiopia proper and if not, now they turn to Eritrea.

            I think we have a lot of work ahead of us. Even if we wanted to move on, I don’t think they will allow us to do so. ካብ ሕማቅ ዝገብሩኻስ ሕማቅ ዝምህሩኻ : and we have to stay vigilant.

            I think in all these, the best part is, Eritreans are united like never before. There is no more a disagreement about the future of Eritrea, with few NNNN exceptions. But those are not that important because once their god is gone, they no longer cause any threat.

            Berhe

          • sara

            habibna berhe,
            the last two lines ??//// i may twist it and say a thing but,, as Dr Hashela said context matters… i understand what you want to say.
            the thing is as i observe from many we tend to equate the beloved
            eritrea with one person. i am sure you know no eritrean says or will even think the governing party and eritrea are one..we only hear such
            in the neighborhood. so whenever it comes to eritrean history, our heroic struggle for independence and sovereignty we should only see it from eritrea and eritreans perspective. no-party , or person is equal to eritrea

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sara,

            “ we should only see it from eritrea and eritreans perspective. no-party , or person is equal to eritrea.”

            Well said. Eventually, we will come to a point, to understand collectively that no one is indispensable “a party or a person” to compare with Eritrea – a nation we gave everything to its existence.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            You said it right. Let’s leave it for history to pass the last verdict.
            ውቃው የወቃው አሁንም እየወቃ ያለው እኡርትራውያንን ነው::
            ናደው የናደው አሁንም እየናደ ያለው ኤርትራን ብቻ ነው::

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            “ካብ ወዲ ጓል ወዲ ኸልቢ (ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ)”. Really, this statement does not have connotations and repercussions? My friend, this statement has a disparaging message. ዘርኢ ጓልካ ምንዓቅ: ግደ ደቂ አንስትዮ ምንእኣስ ማለት ከምዘስምዕ ከመይገይርና ንርስዖ::

            Second, we can not avoid our mistakes by claiming out of context. Be it “contextual” or “un contextual” the statement is inappropriate.

            Third, we have to be aware that there many adages that should be outdated because of its repercussions in society. This one is one of them.

            Regards

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aman,

            I think you misunderstood what I am saying as well. I am not agreeing or disagreeing to the usage of the adage. Your response revolves around if this is correct to use or not. That’s not the point.

            Mehandis understood as if Hashela is saying “ንደቂ ‘ንስትዮ ምሳና ከምዘይ ተሰወኣን ሰንከላን ‘ሲ ምስ ከልቢ ክትሰርዐን?”. That’s not what Hashela is saying.

            If you are saying….we should not use it in any situation..well I don’t necessary agree.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            “If you are saying….we should not use it in any situation..well I don’t necessary agree.”

            So the “saying or adage” that belittle women, you don’t necessary agree? Is that what you are saying. The word “necessary” will not exempted you from condoning the saying. You are condoning it and you are for preserving it. Not good!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aman,

            I don’t necessary agree, because it’s not belittling women. Your argument is an oxymoron, because everyone is born from a women including those who use it.

            For example, I think Isayas Afeworki is wedi gual. Because he is born to an Eritrea women from an Ethiopian father and he is destroying his mothers land.

            This is why I don’t necessary disagree with it. Do I use it, not personally.

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Why don’t we go straight to the crux of the matter. Do you abhor the “old adage” on discussion? Second, despite every one is born from women, why did that adage came to existence? Then you will know who is oxymoron. Admission of your faulty statement is good for you and to the forum in general,

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amanuel,

            1) I said, I don’t necessary. Melles for example, he suppose to be born from an Eritrean mother, and he deported 70 thousands Eritreans, including women and children and elderly who were on their death beds. His army and his policy for extending the war has caused so much lives. Why? Is it wrong if someone used the ‘adage’ on him. I don’t think so..because what it means to me, and the way I understand is…”this type of person will not hasitate to inflict damage to the country he was born and to the people who raise him. It happens all the time with a lot of dictators….Isayas being one of them. Hitler is another..he was born to a Jews mother but he wanted to eliminate the Jew people from the fact of the earth. Is it wrong to use against him..I don’t think so.

            2) Same as above….that’s what I tried to explain. Let me ask you, do you know what it means?

            3) I don’t believe I have made any faulty statement and there is nothing that I need to admit.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            Berhe

            It is interesting that you are the only Person who seems to understand the historical context of the saying I used. You invoked PMMZ as an example, as I did in my most recent explanation to Amanuel. Please have a look at the post.

            Thank you for enriching this forum with your insightful and refreshing contributions.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma, Berhe and all,

            My comment is on the adage. As for its use, we should all try to refrain as much as possible from the urge in applying this or other similar adages on someone even if the push is too heavy.

            I feel I am missing something or I didn’t really know the meaning of ካብ ወዲ ሰበይቲ፡ ከልቢ (ወዲ ከልቢ) ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ. Let me put it the other way ካብ ወዲ ሰብኣይ፡ ከልቢ (ወዲ ከልቢ) ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ. Who is getting targeted in both? Isn’t it the stepson born from a wife or a husband? My understanding is that the message the adage is sending is that, the stepson will eventually choose his blood father or mother and will not remain faithful to his stepmother or stepfather; therefore, better be cautious from the start. Is the adage getting confused with the insult ወዲ ሰበይቲ?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Haile,

            ጌጋ ይኽልአለይ እምበር I think there is a difference from what you wrote. What was said, “ካብ ወዲ ጓል ወዲ ኸልቢ (ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ)” and you are saying “ወዲ ሰበይቲ”.

            ወዲ ሰበይቲ – means someone raised by a single mother, used in derogatory way to indicate that the person “didn’t get good up bringing, as he had no father or father figure to raise him/ her with discipline”.

            ወዲ ጓል – means I think someone born in a village for the example but from a father who is an outsider.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe, Emma & all,

            That confirms my suspicion:-) I am the one not paying attention. I also thought the adage was the way I put it. Sorry guys for confusing you further.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            “ ወዲ ሰበይቲን” the adage on discussion are not the same but they sent the similar message that undermines our women. However we try to interpret it, there is no any value on the said adage.

            Regards

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            I disagree with your interpretation.

            Definition:
            ወዲ ጓል: a boy who grew up with the parent of his mother
            ወዲ ሰበይቲ: a boy of single mom ( in most case an unmarried woman).

            Context:
            In most of our rural societies, ወዲ ጓል is not entitled for a land allocation in the village of his mother’s side grandparent. He is, however, entitled for land allocation in the village of his father no matter where and with whom the boy grew up. Therefore, the boy will always side with his father’s village when it comes to a land fight between the villages of his mother’s and father’s side grandparent.
            Therefore, called ወዲ ጓል implicitly indicates where you belong and where your loyalty is centered when it comes to land heritages. Comparing ወዲ ጓል with a dog’s loyalty is a bit tricky and that is why share Amanuel’s concern.

            ወዲ ሰበይቲ is outright derogatory and implicitly invokes his mother’s unfavorable stand in the society

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Doctore,

            We are in the same page. You don’t have to disagree, if I said in my comment “they are not the same.” Didn’t I?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Sorry I have to call you on this one.

            You said ““ ወዲ ሰበይቲን” the adage [ወዲ ጓል] on discussion are not the same but they sent similar message that undermines our women.

            Since you agree to the definition given by Dr. Hashela, how does the ወዲ ጓል undermines a women?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Ditto: to my last reply to him. It is not on the definition, the problem is, on the whole adage and its message.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Sorry then I don’t understand the problem you have with the adage or it’s message.

            I personally find what Mehandis said very, very offensive.

            Anyway, let’s leave it there.

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Berhe,
            There is nothing good about stating “ካብ ወዲ ጓል ወዲ ኸልቢ (ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ)”. I am not sure why are having difficulty understanding this. It is offensive.
            To make it worse, this comes from an educated person.
            Now, while you have no problem with this statement, you found mine very, very offensive?
            Let’s just stop on this, since ን ከይንረዳዳእ ተረዳዲእና መስለኒ። ኣነ ኣብዚ ይዓጹ። See you on another subject.

          • Hashela

            Selam Mehandis

            Please educate yourself from the below. If you have a deviating interpretation and definition, let us know.

            Definition:
            ወዲ ጓል: a boy who grew up with the parent of his mother
            ወዲ ሰበይቲ: a boy of single mom ( in most case an unmarried woman).

            Context:
            In most of our rural societies, ወዲ ጓል is not entitled for a land
            allocation in the village of his mother’s side grandparent. He is,
            however, entitled for land allocation in the village of his father no
            matter where and with whom the boy grew up. Therefore, the boy will always side with his father’s village when it comes to a land fight between the villages of his mother’s and father’s side grandparents.
            Therefore, being called ወዲ ጓል implicitly indicates where you belong and where your loyalty is centered when it comes to land heritage and defence. Comparing ወዲ ጓል loyalty with a dog’s loyalty is a bit tricky and that is why share Amanuel’s concern.

            ወዲ ሰበይቲ is outright derogatory and implicitly and unfairly invokes his mother’s perceived, unfavorable stand in the society

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Dr. Hashela,
            I am objecting to the whole sentence. The comparison is :
            ወዲ ጓል vs. ወዲ ኸልቢ
            And the choice was ወዲ ኸልቢ ምዕባይ ይሓይሽ

            I wouldn’t argue if ወዲ ጓል was used in a different context. I hope this is clear.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Mehandsha,

            I usually get better sense when I turn tigrigna proverbs and adages upside down, ስለዝኾነ ከኣ፡ ብዕራይን ኣብ መልሲ፡ ምሁራን ኣብ ሳልስቲ ጠፍ ኣይትግደፍ።
            ምሁራን ክብል ከለኹ ብሓፈሻ ንኹሉ ከምቲ ትገብሮ ማለተይ እዩ።

          • Hashela

            Selam Mehandis

            Please educate yourself from the below. If you a deviating definition and interpretation, let us know

            Definition:
            ወዲ ጓል: a boy who grew up with the parent of his mother
            ወዲ ሰበይቲ: a boy of single mom ( in most case an unmarried woman).

            Context:
            In most of our rural societies, ወዲ ጓል is not entitled for a land
            allocation in the village of his mother’s side grandparent. He is,
            however, entitled for land allocation in the village of his father no
            matter where and with whom the boy grew up. Therefore, the boy will always side with his father’s village when it comes to a land fight between the villages of his mother’s and father’s side grandparents.
            Therefore, being called ወዲ ጓል implicitly indicates where you belong and where your loyalty is centered when it comes to land heritage and defense. Comparing ወዲ ጓል loyalty with a dog’s loyalty is a bit tricky and that is why share Amanuel’s concern.

            ወዲ ሰበይቲ is outright derogatory and implicitly and unfairly invokes his mother’s perceived, unfavorable stand in the society

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            I have no idea why they need to be “too defensive” for an “offensive adage”. This is one of the many offensive adages that has to be negated from our vocabulary for good. This is not one of the good adages that we should preserve them.

            Second, let us take it as a “wrong adage” for a “good purpose of defense” from one of our own. The effort was to correct each other. Therefore, take it easy. Culture takes time to evolve. The good doctor has taken a note on it.

            Regard

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ!
            ዓሻ ዝተኸሎ ለባም ኣይነቕሎ, something like that, ምስላ ኣሎ። ‘ዚኣ ድማ ዓሻ ‘ዩ ቅድሚ ክንደይ ኣማኢት ዓመታት ተኺሉዋ ዝኸውን, ይብል ኣነ።
            ዳክተር ሓሸላ የዐርዩ ኣይሓስበላን ቅድም ምጥቃሙ በሃሊ ‘የ, ጌጋ ደኣ ይኽለኣለይ ምበር።
            Let me just add a note here, if I say or write something like this proverb, in the place I work, I would be fired within mins 🙂

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile

            In order to understand the historical context of the saying I used, we should refrain from modifying it. ወዲ ጓል and ወዲ ሰበይቲ have a completely different meaning, as Berhe explained to you.

            The saying I used emphasizes the meaning of እንዳባ (patriarchal lineage) and the importance of patriarchal lineage in most of our rural societies. The saying implies when it comes to a land fight ወዲ ጓል will always side with his father’s family (PMMZ is a good example) no matter where and with whom he grew up. Whereas a dog will be always royal to you.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Hashela,

            ሃጺጸ እንድየ! Do you like painting? If you do please check (google) a magnificent painting of a faithful dog who lost his shepherd, painted by sir Edwin Landseer. The painting is entitled “Old Shepherd’s Chief Mourner. Landseer was a well known animal painter and sculptor. He did the bronze sculptures of Lions sitting at the monument at Trafalgar square in London.

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile

            In Amharized Tigrinya, people say ሽግር የለን😂. So no worries!

            I love dogs. When I was shepherd, I spent several days in the vastly remote wilderness alone with the dog and the herds. Often I run out of food and the dog got always the last piece of the food I had. I felt that he knew exactly about my precarious decision and the depth of my friendship with him

          • Haile S.

            Selam Hashela,

            Unlike in the now urbanized society of ours where there are many stray dogs, beaten and harassed by children (I am not immune, was doing the same), dogs and cats in villages are highly respected. The house dog is the first to get his piece of ቅጫ and ማይጸባ. I also remember my mom (who spent here early life in village) use to prepare ግዓት when our cat gave birth.
            In the traditional law of ኣድከመ ምልጋእ (Seraye region), on the section pertaining rules of hunting it says: if a hunter was helped by his hunter dog to subdue a Gazelle, two legs (ሕንግሮ = ክልተ እግሪ) belong to the hunting dog.

          • Hashela

            Dear Amanuel

            Sure, our language is patriarchally dominated. Therefore, I agree with you that we have to be careful.

            That said, do you really believe I quoted the saying to belittle Eritrean women? I don’t need to explain to you the root of that particular saying. The saying emphasizes the meaning እንዳባ (patriarchal lineage) and the importance of patriarchal lineage in our rural society. The saying implies when it comes to a fight ወዲ ጓል will always side with his father’s family. Whereas a dog will be always royal to you. You are a master of our language and have a good understanding of the deeper meaning of our sayings. Yet, in this particular case you took an another path, for a reason I don’t want to speculate about.

            Respectfully

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            “ That said, do you really believe I quoted the saying to belittle Eritrean women?”

            No. I don’t believe that. But I believe you misspoke and misuse it. Because, I believe this one is one of our old adages that has to be removed from our vocabulary, if we believe on women’s right and equality. That is what I want to convey in my message.

            Second, if is not good for usage, does it matter whether it is within the context or not. Doctore, you have many alternatives to make your point. You command Tigrigna as well.

          • Hashela

            Thank you Berhe

            There several explanations for Mehandes’ reaction:
            1) lack of contextual understanding
            2) intentional twist to score something
            3) overly and wrongly understood feminism ( coastal California)

            That said, I welcome Amanuel’s input. Our language is patriarchally formed/dominated and we need to be careful.

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            You said … “They are denying the that EPLF had any role in removing the Derg from Ethiopia”, where did I say that? What I said was “ It is true that there was help between them, but they did majority of their own challenge themselves”, where did I use “any role”? My statement indicates that both had a role, but we don’t know whether that role was 10%, 20%, it needs factual data to claim that way. However it wasn’t this much “ነታ ሓንጊራ ኣብ ዓዲ-ሰብ ደእተወትኩም”, was it? Why exaggerate? There was help between EPLF and TPLF, but it wasn’t the way Hashela claimed it. Can we claim like “ካብ ሳህል ኣድሒናኩም”? No, that will be a LIE because EPLF did the majority of the challenge, the role TPLF played was supporting role, nothing more than that, the same thing goes for EPLF in Ethiopia. As Amanuel Hidrat said it well “choices of words, choices of phrases, and choices of adages really matters to help our argument”.

            For example, PMAA said Derg didn’t lose the war, was he right? No, he wasn’t, the reason he said that was because he was trying to appease “ትምክህተኛው” camp and to diminish TPLF’s role during the struggle, thus he had to claim false claims in front of Ethiopians. He knows well how the Derg war ended. My point is what is the need to exaggerate? Why can’t we say the facts the way they are.

            Thanks,

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Samuel,

            Now you are asking for what percentage was EPLF involved.

            This is what you said:

            “ The true story is EPLF freed Eritrea, TPLF freed Ethiopia,”

            You are denying EPLF had no role in freeing Ethiopia?

            Ok, why don’t you tell me which cities the TPLF free TPLF before Derg was defeated in Eritrea in 1991 other than Tigray.

            What was TPLF doing between 1987 – 1991?

            Berhe

          • Samuel

            Selam Berhe Y,
            My whole argument was on the way Hashela responded, his own word “ነታ ሓንጊራ ኣብ ዓዲ-ሰብ ደእተወትኩም”, if you agree with his statement then you will be one of those individuals. No one carried any one, there was mutual role for common enemy and purpose. If you still believe in “ነታ ሓንጊራ ኣብ ዓዲ-ሰብ ደእተወትኩም” then you know….. I leave that for you.

            To answer your question…”What was TPLF doing between 1987 – 1991?”
            You don’t seem to have much information, specially from 1988 to 1991 most of Derg battles were in Ethiopia land, again I am not saying there wasn’t in Eritrea (Af’abet, Keren, Adi Keyih, etc) but what I am saying is most of the battles were centered in Ethiopia, however before 1988 most of the battles were in Eritrea (If I am not mistaken until 1988 Derg has made 8 or 9 major counter offensive attempts to attack EPLF but failed all of those attempts).

            Back to your question:- The following is from official documentary-
            1. 1988 – 1989 Tigray some part of Wollo
            Shire, Axum, Adwa, Wuqro, Mugulat, Sinqata, Maychew, Alamata, Kobo (Wollo), etc
            2. 604 core Centered in Mekelle (the war was in Shire but its center was Mekelle)
            This was the second time February 1989. Derg established a huge army (603, 604, 605 cores). The slogan was loosely “everything to the battle front” “ሁሉም ነገር ወደ ጦር ግንባር”.
            3. 603 core centered Bahrdar (1989/1990)
            • It includes Gondar region (all cities around that region, Addis Zemen, Debre Tabor, etc)
            • Gojam region (it includes all cities around Gojam region, Hamusit, Debre Markos, etc)
            4. 605 core Centered in Dessie (1989/1990)
            This includes all cities and towns around that region (Woldya, Mersa, Hayk, etc.
            5. Wolega front
            All towns and cities that region (Ambo, Neqemt)
            6. Semen Shewa (1990/1991)
            All towns and cities that region (Shewa Robit, Debre Birhan etc)
            7. Harar front — 1991
            8. Awasa front — 1991
            9. Jima front — 1991

            The list goes on, if you are interested I will try to research and provide the exact dates and numbers of parties who participated in each event, including the involvement of EPLF in those fronts.

            The help was mutual, they shared the challenge and won. But I can’t stay silent when one uses the words like “ነታ ሓንጊራ ኣብ ዓዲ-ሰብ ደእተወትኩም”, there is not a shred evidence to support that. There is no deny that there was crucial role played by both parties to one another but one can’t claim “ሓንጊራ ኣብ ዓዲ-ሰብ ደእተወትኩም”.

            Thank,

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Samuel,

            I think Hashela can defend himself. Abs if you have a problem to what he said, you should do just do that but you don’t go and create your own facts.

            I am going to repeat and you said “ “The true story is EPLF freed Eritrea, TPLF freed Ethiopia, that’s it. It is true that there was help between them, but they did majority of their own challenge themselves, other than that what are you talking about? ”

            You are right I don’t have a lot of information but what you wrote as facts from 1987 I have never heard.

            You said, TPLF freed Ethiopia, now I am assuming you are saying TPLF was fighting those all wars that you listed?

            And what happened in those years of fighting? Did they free those town/cities and took over the administrative like they did in Tigray and were administering them?

            And the Derg was fighting in Eritrea before 1987 and it didn’t after that. Well, at least there are many news stories that is written during those times, not only that but volumes of books even written, from outsiders who were neutral journalists. I will name a few, Dan Connel, David Basilion, the Australian guy who wrote Schindler’s list, The Canadian journalist, who was at the Lee Hurvey Oswald assassination (I for got his name), there is another Canadian journalist from Montreal who was at the liberation of Massawa, there was a whole segment Night line with Ted Couple from ABC.,, many, many BBC reports from the field.

            You are right I don’t know much information but I have not heard or read the liberation of all those places.

            It would be hard to imagine TPLF was fighting in Harer in 1991? How would they get there ad for what reason? To liberate the people of Harer?

            Anyway, I don’t know there is a point to continue with this discussion, we know our history and we know what has happened.

            Berhe

          • Samuel

            Selam Hashela,
            Are you one of those pompous individuals out there? I thought this kind of narrative was from the likes of Nitricc, so this is embedded with you too. It’s really sad to see that this kind of language and LIE coming from you and the like. Your choices of words tells a lot about you, you seem to be angry, what made you to be angry? The true story is EPLF freed Eritrea, TPLF freed Ethiopia, that’s it. It is true that there was help between them, but they did majority of their own challenge themselves, other than that what are you talking about?
            ካልእ እቲ ጉራ እንተኾይኑ ቅድሚ ሕዚ ሰሚዕናዮ ኢና። ስለዚ ለሚድናዮ ኢና::

            By the way, it is very well documented who participated in every war during Derg regime, which means actual evidences are available. Please stop this nonstop LIE. I thought you were serious individual.

            I used to hear such nonsense story long time back, I thought the case was closed but it seems the LIE is still there. My two cents, let’s respect each other’s please, unnecessary story and words isn’t helpful. We had common enemy and we fought together and won, no need to add any strings.

            ሕዚ’ካ መን ምኻንካ ፈሊጠካ ኣልኹ::

            Thanks,

          • Solomon

            Selam Hashela,

            In my comment I was responding to what Horizon commented about MZ/TPLF stating that the complex problems facing Ethiopia all emanated in the past 27 years rule of TPLF. I was trying to argue it is more complex than that and was stating my argument.

            It wasn’t about EPLF/TPLF, who contributed more to whom. I was only implying the demise of DERG. Some people may say it is not by EPLF/TPLF but DERG crumpled by its own weight, others by the Ethiopian people , others not TPLF but EPRDF. For me it’s not important because we are facing now some real problems who cares about who defeated DERG 28 years ago.

            But even if I said that TPLF alone defeated DERG, I am only an individual stating my opinion. You can insult me if you wish to do so. Why do you have to insult the whole Tigray people?

            You also belittled women . Don’t you have mother, sister, wife, and daughter? Shame on you .

          • Hashela

            Hi Solomon

            Please work on your Tigrinya reading and contextual comprehension.
            Berhe and I have provided some supplemental materials in this thread.

          • Selam Solomon,
            Do you really believe what you are saying, let’s forget the present and live in the past? Is that how you see things? If Menilik had the power he would have done much more. He was forced to compromise.
            So, it was Menilik and not italy that divided the Tigrignea speaking people. You can’t rewrite history. If we have to speak about Ethiopian history it goes even further.
            Ethiopians are divided as never before, because Tplf wanted to rule for a thousand years, and thanks to tplf they are at each others throat today. Moreover, Tplf is calling for war, and it is ready to gamble with the fate of Tygrayans and Ethiopians in general. This is the emancipation of the people you have in mind.
            Tplf wanted to loot first before it destroyed the land, hungry as its members were for wealth, when they came out of the bushes. Now that they can’t continue to do the same thing, they have the plan to destroy, because Ethiopia is of no use to them unless they exploit her. Remember, she is not meant to be, unless the tplf way.
            The only thing that keeps tplf from war is the fear of its own destruction despite the bravado. Because you have moved to tigray some ammunition bought with Ethiopian people’s money in order to kill Ethiopians, don’t make the mistake that Tplf will fight for long or win any war to come back to power. In my opinion no one is going to attack tplf unless it declares unilaterally its independence ignoring the wish of the Ethiopian people. There are procedures on the ground. Acting behind the back of the Ethiopian people was a deceitful act. Hence it remained a liberation front although it ruled the country.
            Finally Tplf surrendered power because it could not do otherwise. From the center there was no chance that Tplf could fight the mass and survive, whatever weapons it had. In addition, all the past leaders you mentioned were true to Ethiopian unity and integrity unlike tplf and its leader.

          • Solomon

            Selam Horizon,

            I don’t want to live in the past. I only brought the past because you always choose to simplify the complex problems of Ethiopia on the past 27 years rule of TPLF/EPRDF. If it was so we would have been very lucky people because the solution would have been also simple.

            For the last 27 years you and the likes of you were propagating the only problem of Ethiopia is TPLF and if we eliminate TPLF by any means possible even throwing the baby out with the bathwater, all will be okay. Then comes the change and when you face the music, even after two years you are still singing the same song over and over again. Blaming TPLF for the Badme war and anything associated with it For example is normal because it had nothing to do with the past regimes but blaming for what Minilik and HS did is I don’t know what?

            You know what blaming TPLF for anything and everything is going to solve nothing. But understanding the complexity and finding solution that matches the problem will do .

            You and all the hardliner centralist elites repeatedly allege falsely that TPLF wants to start a war, to create independent Tigray, to create havoc in the country without producing a shred of evidence. The people of Tigray doesn’t want all of that . They want to peacefully live in equality with all Ethiopian people . But the hardliner centralist elites you don’t want that. What you want is a second class citizen Tigrean.

            To achieve that on the pretext of attacking TPLF you attacked the Tigrean people. Your narcissistic Pastor even conspired with DIA to make the Tigray people knell. When TPLF then prepares to defend its people from any aggression you cry foul and say they want to wage war.

          • Selam Solomon,
            Tplf is swimming against the tide and it will reach nowhere. Tplf’s bankrupt policy of secession and ethnic federalism are abhorred by those who want to see the continuation of Ethiopia, whom you call centralists, unionists and Ethiopianists. Can you sell this rhetoric to anybody else except to reactionary anti Ethiopian forces? Ethiopians saw and got disappointed with tplf’s divisive ethnic federalism and they are betting on the unity of Ethiopia. First, you have got to lose something before you appreciate its importance. That is what happened with peace and stability in Ethiopia. Ethiopians have come to understand that, and they are turning their back on the divisive elements, tplf and oromo ultra nationalists. No one trusts any more the so-called federalist forces, like jawar, bekele g. and others, because people see them as sellouts to tplf.
            PMAA can stand with the banner of Ethiopian unity and integrity in his hand all over Ethiopia, East-West-South and even North, and that is the reason the tide is flowing with him. This has terrified the anti Ethiopian camp, and they have started to throw hand grenades at rallies that come out to support him. It shows that his antagonists have already lost hope, and they have started violence as their only solution.
            Yes, i am a hardliner when it comes to Ethiopian unity and her future existence. No true Ethiopian will compromise Ethiopia’s continuation as a country. Ethiopians will fight for the democratic rights of all citizens and ethnic groups within a United Ethiopia. If that is a problem for some people, then they are on the wrong side of history.

          • Solomon

            Selam Horizon,

            I don’t think you know the gravity of danger we are facing. You think PMMA is going to win in the next election because you are seeing government orchestrated rallies on Fana tv?

            Please read René Leforts analysis on Ethiopia Insight if you haven’t. But i don’t think you care, for you and your likes if the Pastor is not elected Ethiopia can go to hell than to accept the outcome of the election . Moreover you have a ready made scapegoat on TPLF for anything that goes wrong.

          • Selam Solomon,

            René Leforts seems to have brought interesting points. The problem for you is that the “Pastor” as you now call him is already a front runner and has more chances to be elected than tplf that counts on a crisis in ethiopia before and after the elections, than the possibility of gaining more than the 6%. You will be disappointed to know that there are governments that want the “Pastor” to win in the coming elections, because they believe that he is the only hope for Ethiopia, at the time when ethno-nationalists-federalists are wreaking havoc all over the country.

            Just some of the takeaways:
            -Tplf military officials are saying that they have nothing to worry about armament, intensive military training is going on, and as a Tigrayan commander summarized: there is not one army in the whole Horn which can defeat tplf. This shows that tplf was robbing the ethiopian armed forces it controlled and diverted military equipment bought by Ethiopia’s taxpayer money to Tigray during its 27 yrs rule.
            -If Tigray is blockaded, budget cut and communications are stopped, tplf is ready to fight.
            -Secession is not the agenda of the Tigrayan people. Tigrayans feel that they are the center of Ethiopia and they have invested mostly outside Tigray and they know very well the negative impact of secession. Secession is tplf’s agenda. Even Tplf believes that secession is sustainable only if surrounded by peaceful and friendly states. This is the main reason tplf is courting Eritrea,
            -Tplf is an outdated hopeless Marxist-Leninist party, and oromo ethno-nationalists like jawar are evil.
            -The new trend is to attack PMAA for his religion, his Pentecostal faith, by putting him with American evangelical officials in the trump government. That is one of the reasons you call him the “Pastor”.
            -Qemant has more or less undergone close to ethnic cleansing.
            -“The people of Tigray is encircled” by shabia and amhara has become the catch-word to mobilize Tigrayans and get their support.
            -etc..

            The article shows the future trend and tplf’s condition. The future is working against tplf, and the chances of commanding Ethiopia from the center belongs to ancient history. The choice PMAA had given tplf: Merger – become “agar” party – work with PP with an elected group from tplf + Dr. DT as the deputy PM. Tplf has rejected it, nevertheless, it shows that times have changed and tplf is not aware of it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            “ the chances of commanding Ethiopia from the center belongs to ancient history.”

            I am sure you will have your own interpretation to the quoted sentence. But, “the center belongs to ancient history” will also send a message that the center belongs to the “Amara social group” because the Amara ruling class were occupying the “power at the center” for a centuries. I don’t know whether you filtered your “words and thoughts” before you penned them down. A clean politician will never give a message that could be interpreted in different ways. If you are attempting to be, then think about it.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,

            I am not sure if i have understood your point. Anyways, the crux of the matter is that tplf as we know it is not going to rule Ethiopia from the center again in an authoritarian manner. Of course, it doesn’t mean that it can’t participate if it wants to, another Tigrayan political party can’t be a part of a coalition in future Ethiopian governments or the Amara ethnic group will dominate power again.
            PP is not a one ethnic group party. That is the biggest problem for tplf. Because of this, it can’t fit within tplf’s ethnic federalism. It is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural and multi-regional party which hosts all ethnic groups in Ethiopia under its tent.
            What we fail to understand about the new reality in Ethiopia is that ‘No one ethnic group will ever again be the master”. The so-called agar parties are to be represented on equal terms if PP wins elections.
            Tplf’s major mistake was that although it said that it fought against Amara hegemony, it became hegemonic itself. That’s why it’s where it is today. Anyone who comes with similar policy in the future will have the same fate.
            Ethno-federalists are being abhorred, because of the instability they brought to ethiopia. Therefore, Ethiopians are going to vote for peace and stability in the coming elections.
            Finally, OK, i can’t be a clean politician like you. I can’t serve two masters and call myself a clean politician. Maybe i should have ignored this point. Unfortunately, it is not always possible.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            I can’t be more clear than I did. The question was simple and specific on the quoted sentence of yours. I showed you how it could also be interpreted in the debate of politics. And I gave you a hint to avoid remarks that could lead to different interpretation. The above reply has nothing to do with the point I brought to your attention. Anyway, I brought you to filter your words and thought before you put them as a comment, for clarity purpose to your readers. Now go back to the quoted sentence, you could rewrite it, to have one interpretation only.

          • Selam Amanuel H.,
            “Now go back to the quoted sentence, you could rewrite it, to have one interpretation only.”
            No professor, i am not going to waste my time. Your authoritative way is really interesting. You seem to have a big idea about yourself. I don’t think that you have given me any important homework. Only that you don’t like what i said about tplf. Interpret it as you like. So what?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            The exchange wasn’t about an idea, nor does it was about dictation. It was simply about clarity of your sentence. I was trying to inform you about the formulation of your sentence – a sentence that gives different interpretation, and hence, I gave my interpretation that might be different than you sought of.That was my message to you. But you took it as negative based on your perception. With that, I close my case on it. Have a good one.

          • Solomon

            Selam Horizon,

            René Leforts analysis ls about how PMMA is taking Ethiopia to the abyss. In my opinion the main take away of his analysis is summarized in his sentence “Abiy’s fatal initial error, which has led to many of his other missteps, is to have pursued the wrong objective. Regardless of the fate of his leadership, Abiy should have focused on trying to lead the country to a peaceful and orderly transition in order to give it its best chance of success. Instead, he seems to have deprioritized the transition’s success in favour of becoming the next in a long line of Ethiopian ‘Big Man’ rulers.”

            Instead of focusing in PMMA which is the main focus of the article you choose to focus on TPLF as usual. Your hate for TPLF is clouding your judgment. This shows that you and your likes hate for TPLF is not based on reason but on race and grudge.

            Let me tell you some facts. Tigreans were very happy when the change come like all Ethiopians and were ready to dump TPLF. Remember how ecstatic the people were when PMMA first visited Tigray. But the enemies of Tigray interpreted that as wickness and wanted to humiliate the people and the pastor obliged. This is why the Tigray people are behind TPLF. You are playing into the hands of TPLF unwittingly or may be willingly.

            Tigray people doesn’t want TPLF or any party that represents them to go to center and participate above their weight again even if they got the chance let alone get them into war. They have seen enough. If TPLF tries to do that i will assure they will be dumped in no time by the new parties like Baytona. All the people want is to administer themselves with out any pressure from anybody . They will not accept humiliation or any kind of racism from anybody. This is not because they have armaments better than that of the Ethiopian defense forces or DIA’s armaments like you said but due to their unity,their history and just cause .

            I am not saying the Pastor because of his religion but because of his behavior. He is trying to lead the country like a pastor leads his congregation by preaching. May be he is a good pastor but PM is above his pay grade.

            “You will be disappointed to know that there are governments that want the “Pastor” to win in the coming elections, because they believe that he is the only hope for Ethiopia” Really Horizon, is DIA one of them, or Egypt , or the Saudis , this shows how much you people are downgraded. ከዚህስ ሞት ይሻላል፡፡

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            ምነው ሞተህ የማትሞክረው ጠቢቡ ሰለሞን

          • Teodros Alem

            abi
            Tela bet, i think u trying to say ” lemen moteh atmokerwam”? even “sekotagn” don’t say that.
            I don’t know what the purpose is but I think most of u guys here r trying to make Awate like amara mass media, tigrai online, aiga, and so on trashy ethiopia websites. In terms of writing and ideas, there is a lot of similarities between u guys and those trashy websites. i think u guys r the one writing over there too.

          • Selam Solomon,

            “Downgraded. ከዚህስ ሞት ይሻላል” describes much more tplf and its stooges than anybody else. Do you realize where you people were two yrs ago and where you are today and where you will be in the future. You thought you were on the top of the world, and now you are nursing your old men with whisky and gin in different hotels all over Tigray.
            Unchain your people and you will understand what exactly they want. Don’t try to use them. They want nothing different from the rest of Ethiopians. Tplf’s wish is not the wish of the people of tigray. Tplf stands only for its power, while the people of Tigray want nothing more than peace, stability and their prosperity, which will not come separated from ethiopia as tplf says, or through war.
            You say, “The people are already Mobilized. They are ready for anything that comes their way.”. People like you are deaf and blind to what tplf has done and is capable of doing the wrong thing. Have you ever heard of people worshiping the god of war? It is tplf that is ready to sacrifice the people of tigray for the sake of its hegemony, by exploiting the herd mentality of people under threat. It is in human nature to stand with strongmen when people feel that they are in danger, and not because they like them. That is why tplf is fear-mongering to get the support of the people of Tigray.
            In addition, you say, “All the people want is to administer themselves without any pressure from anybody.” Who said that the rest of ethiopian ethnic groups want something else. The difference is that you people want it a la carte blanche, inside and outside of the federation at the same time, you don’t recognize the government or the federation whenever you want, ethiopians will pay the bill for that by covering 70% of your budget, what is yours is yours and what belongs to others is also yours, etc. It is an old story.
            You say you are proud of your history. Do you think that the rest of ethiopians do not have history or are ashamed of their history? Do you think that you fought at adwa alone and defeated the italians, did you face shabia alone 1998, or do you think that single handedly you deposed the derg? Be real. Nobody denies your role especially in deposing the derg, but don’t dismiss the contribution of other ethiopians.
            You are talking of “humiliation”. Who do you think humiliated the ethiopian people more than tplf? Beyond the looting, the incarcerations and killings, who sodomized ethiopian male prisoners other than tplf? Was it not tplf women who peed on ethiopian men to dehumanize them? Was it not tplf that hanged water bottles from men genital organs to torture them? How many ethiopians remained paralysed by tplf torture? Your humiliation is in your mind, while these humiliated ethiopians live in the real world.
            Finally, do you think that ethiopians do not have unity when it is about their country? How did they keep Ethiopia free from colonization and subjugation throughout the ages? Through your tplf egypt, saudi arabia and other arab countries may have tried to destabilize ethiopia, but now they can work with ethiopia only on equal terms.

          • Solomon

            Hello Horizon ,

            Sorry Horizon the discussion should be primarily about the current government. It is the most influential entity in shaping the countries future for good or for bad out come because it has the Bank, the Tank and the Army. But all you want to talk is about TPLF. Even that you contradict your self a lot. You say they are finished , 6% bla, bla and on the next sentence you accuse for anything happening in Ethiopia.

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            All tplf has to do is mobilize the people and declare independence.
            Problem solved.

          • Solomon

            Selam Abi,

            The people are already Mobilized. They are ready for anything that comes their way. But they will not declare Independence by themselves because they have sacrificed a lot for this country. They have been pushed a lot by hardliners and extremists like you but they prevailed. If you continue on this path it will not be long before they defeat you again.

          • Abi

            Selam Solomon
            I promise to do anything to expedite the liberation process .

          • Solomon

            Selam Abi,

            You seem disillusioned Abi what happened. What kind of Ethiopia will you get with out Tigray or you don’t care . I knew there is some thing wrong about you when you are friend with Nitricc.

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            I don’t understand why you expect a clear answer from a person you called “ disillusioned”?
            Anyway I like to see a free and independent Tigray that respects its neighbors north and south.
            I hope your Liberation Front will fulfill the dreams of millions of Tigray people.

          • Solomon

            Hello Abi,

            What about Ethiopia? Don’t give up on Ethiopia.

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            It is refreshing to read you worrying about Ethiopia.
            Is everything alright?
            ማን ሊሞት ነው?

          • Solomon

            Hello Abi,

            Here in lies your problem Abi. You think your selves as the creators of Ethiopia and givers and takers of Ethiopianism. According to your book anybody who differs from your kind of politics is not Ethiopian. The only Ethiopia we don’t want is the old Ethiopia .

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            You had the chance to create a new Ethiopia. You failed miserably . You were busy looting like there is no tomorrow. You were too drunk to notice the abuse, corruption, nepotism… ስንቱ ተወርቶ ያልቃል! ጥጋብና ውስኪ ናላህን አዙረውብህ ግራ ገብቶህ ነበር::
            Now let us all get together and create the new Ethiopia with a liberated Tigray Kingdom as a partner in the peace process.
            Long live independent Tigray!!!

          • Solomon

            Hello Abi,

            I know you don’t know your country politics. What you and your likes know is insulting and name calling,

            Let me break it for you. There is no going back to the old system. TPLF buried it for once and for all in 27 years what your politicians and your elites couldn’t do in 100 years.

            There is no new Ethiopia to be created. The federalism and constitution created by TPLF with all its deficiencies is supported by the majority of Ethiopians. The majority of Ethiopians need more strong federalism not your old buried, rotten system. TPLF is no more the sole defender of the Constitution and federalism. The Oromos, Sidamas, Welaitas, Afars, Somalis……etc will defend it to the death. If your Pastor tries to change the federalism or constitution by force then that will be the end of Ethiopia. That is when Independant Tigray will be created.

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            For a person who goes by the name Solomon you are not wise at all. Actually, you are a Salmon who goes against the tides.
            Now, go back to the drawing board and fix all the mess you created. I mean do the demarcation to your southern and northern boarders.

          • Hashela

            Selam Solomon

            Further below you asked me “what kind of a doctor are you anyway?“
            Initially, I wanted to ignore your non-serious question. After some thoughts and having a bit more time now, I decided to give you an honest and personal answer hoping that you learn about me and my thoughts about your organization.

            I received my doctoral degree from one of the elite universities in Europe. My access to the university was entirely merit based. My doctoral dissertation focused on isotope research, a sub-field of nuclear chemistry/nuclear physics. So I, like all other people here, went through an rigorous educational setting and requirements that are most likely different than in the universities where your Killil Vice President and your generals tele-shopped their “Dr.” titles with looted money from the rest of Ethiopia.

            I was lucky that I was given an opportunity to explore and discover my talent and to make the best out of it. I strongly believe that everybody has a unique talent. Discovering and nurturing talents require, however, a conducive environment and opportunities that TPLF is hell bent to deny Eritrean and Ethiopian youth by creating and sustaining a toxic and volatile environment. Based on the well-documented observations over the past 27 years and today, it is abundantly clear that TPLF, similar to PIA, is an organization that finds its pleasure in and flourish on other peoples’ misery and does everything it can to maintain and exacerbate the misery and suffering. Herein lies the inherently destructive nature of TPLF.

            Sadly but not surprisingly, TPLF cadres, like you, are employing every possible manipulation and spend an enormous amount of time to force upon us the highly toxic TPLF’s product (see below). We have our own dangerous and pathologically narcissistic man (PIA) that we are desperately trying to get rid of. So keep your radioactive garbage in your own yard.

            With its power reduced commensurate to the size of the population it
            ‘represents’ and deprived of Ethiopia’s huge resource, one is hopeful that
            your organization’s capability to further spread divisive ግዛዕ-ምዛዕ such as “Tigray-Tigrini” (ኣሕዋት’ና), “Bright Future”, and “Agazian” ideologies will be contained and sent back to it manufacturer. Our Eritrean unity was tested and prevailed during episodes that were much more favorable to Eritrea’s enemies. So there is optimism.

            Finally, emphasizing that is up to the Tigrayan people what kind of leaders they want in their regional government, with the current TPLF leadership it is very challenging, to put it mildly, to have a peaceful and mutually beneficial relationship. Need more placative illustration? Watch the footage and listen to the speeches of your organization’s 45 year anniversary.

            In respect to the large audience here, please refrain from your usual
            behavior that is aptly captured by the following saying “ትዃቦ ድሰኣና ለማናይ እንዳተጻሪፈ እኸይድ”.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Ras Abiy; Not so fast and not so easy. Before they do that they have to return the land to Welkite, they have to return the land to the Raya and of course they have return Badime to the rightful owners to the Eritreans. The TPLF thugs complicate things so confusing they are in a deep s!!!!ht.

          • Abi

            Hello General
            The days of stealing and snatching land and property have come to a screeching halt.
            Now it is time to return the loot and leave in one piece.

          • Teodros Alem

            solomon
            ethiopia’s problem is not tplf business, tplf is tigrai liberation front, how is that difficult to understand?, let Ethiopia ethnics or peoples or people speak for themselves and the say they hate tplf. If u don’t believe me ask jawar ur boss or the somali u tplfiast speak for urself.

          • sara

            Dear sir,..you said,,,
            :Then he went on to sign the Wuchale treaty to divide the Tigringa speaking people into two so that they’ll not pose a threat to his rule”
            this is your opinion and i respect it…. but as an eritrean i have also
            my own …. not only opinion but facts to the contrary.
            -there was no one tigryna entity to be divided by minilik and italy.
            – there was hoarders coming across the mereb to harass and subjugate those who live in the area of present day eritrea.
            – many of us though we abhor the italian colonization, at least
            that treaty stopped the open invasion and harassment of the people
            of the land now called eritreea.
            therefore…. that treaty was between two invaders who were squabbling who should hold that land called eritrea.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Sara,

            You said “-there was no one tigryna entity to be divided by minilik and italy.”. This extraordinary sentence of yours sums and answers to the subjugation minded desiderata we hear from TPLF sympathizers and its elites. It is great idea to say we are related people speaking same language residing in two separate countries, so lets live in peace as good neighbors. It is useless going to historical invasion and false narrative that obliterates our own history told from the receiving end victims of invasion by Alula’s ነፍጠኛ (nefTegna) and spear branding “army”.

          • sara

            Dear Haile. S
            i think you educated eritreans have a burden on your shoulders in
            informing , educating our neighbors …. about eritrea in all its dimension. we are 30 years since independence and still there are so many misinformed what eritrea is.
            i always get annoyed when i read comments that diminishes its grand
            status.

          • Hashela

            Dear Sara

            In most case, it is not a lack of education and knowledge. They do it for disinformation reason.
            With your sharp mind, you are doing a superb job in unravelling their lies
            Now Eritrean has her own daughters and sons who are writing the true history. History is written by the winner. This fact gives to some Ethiopians an enormous discomfort

          • Solomon

            Selam Sara,

            I really believe the two Tigrigna speakers who live South and north of Mereb were one people prior to Italian colonialization. Otherwise how do you explain all the similarities in language, culture, religion and so on?

            I am not saying they are one people now .We are Proudly Tegaru and you are proud Eritreans I believe. What I don’t understand is though why are you, Berhe Y. Haile S and the likes annoyed when people say we are brothers or say we are same people who live in two different country . Do you think Tigray will annex you one day by claiming we are same people? Or you think you are superior to be brothers with Tegaru? ፈቲኪ ጸሊእኪ አነየ አዴኪ በለት ባርያ

            Anyway i say we are brothers who live in to two different country because literally i have Eritrean brothers .

          • Hashela

            Hi Solomon

            ክውዕየካ ብማንካ: ክዝሕለካ ብኢድካ!
            There was time where your PM didn’t like the color of our eyes!

          • Solomon

            Selam Hashela,

            ንመን ውዕይዎ ንመን ዘዘሐሎ ይመስለካ፡፡ ኩላተና አብ ጽቡቕ አይኮናን ዘለና፡፡ ካብ ጽልእስ ሕውነት ይሐይሽ ይመስለኒ ንኩሉ ህዝቢ፡፡ ካብ ዝሐለፈ እቲ ዝመጽእ ጊዜ ይበልጽ፡፡

          • Hashela

            Hi Solomon

            ካብ ሓውካ ግረቤትካ
            Just try to be a good neighbor who respects his neighbors’ properties. Come in only when invited and leave BEFORE you are told to do so. While leaving don’t take anything that was not explicitly given to you.

          • Solomon

            Selam Hashela,

            Why are you so hateful and rude? Why are you so boastful? I don’t think even the most racist white nationalists boasts this way. Are you Eritrean /African by the way? You seem like you are from the most advanced country in the world whom everybody wants to immigrate. What kind of doctor are you anyway?

          • Nitricc

            HI Solomon; No one is hatful or rude toward you. At one point we must react! you keep pushing and pushing about every issue of Eritrea and Eritreans, at the end we have to respond, you need to be told to know your limits. I know you have a few sold out Eritreans who are void to reason, who are encouraged and embolden you to be where you are but No more! You have Tigray and you are a Tigryan, be happey and be proud. And There is Eritrea and Eritreans, leave at that. Honor what you signed for, final and binding. Get the hell out of Eritrean land and then if anything salvageable we will work in our neighboring thing. The hardest thing is you came to wipe us from the face of the earth by brining the Amara, Oromo and the rest Ethiopians, yet, after we survived paying dearly now you are saying we are your brothers? Get out.

          • Abi

            Hello Solomon
            You are being rejected north and south. There must be a solid reason for this rejection.

          • Solomon

            Selam Abi,

            You think haters like Abi, Nitrcc and Hashela are representatives of people from south and north. I don’t think so. Anyway you know the History of Tigray so no need for explanation .

          • Nitricc

            Solomon; Abiy asked you very personal reflective inquiry. Instead of getting defensive, why not dive in and try to answer it honestly? Like ABiy said why are hated by the entire people Ethiopia and Eritrea? Don’t count those few Eritreans who has sold their soul to TPLF thugs. Why are you rejected?

          • Solomon

            Selam Nitricc,

            The only rejected person i know is you.

          • Nitricc

            Solomon; there is no problem when individuals like me getting rejected, what I don’t get is how is it possible the entire ethnic of yours getting rejected? the Amara want your head detached from your body. The Oromo want you heart to rip it out of its cage. The Eritreans? hmmmmm well, they just wanted you to get out of their land and to go to hell still the question remains that how is the entire society of yours getting rejected?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            Even brothers and sisters of the same country had bleed each other. Don’t we? So why does the concept of “we are brothers” of different county irritates you? Are we going to pass our enmity to the next generations? Think about it. I don’t expect such “ ምረት” from an educated of your caliber. Actually, I had the same “ ምረት” when EPLF had brought foreign forces to be allied with them to kill and kick their brothers from the field in early 80s. But I don’t let myself to continue and live on those psychological “ምረት”. I just moved on to the need of the current struggle on the domestic politics and peace with our neighbors. So I don’t understand why “ ኣሕዋት ደቂ ክልተ ሃገር” ንዝብል ክሳዕ ክንድዚ ሓሳስያ ዘምጸኣልካ ዘሎ? እዝስ ንበዓል ኒትሪክ ግደፈሎም::

          • Nitricc

            እዝስ ንበዓል ኒትሪክ ግደፈሎም

            Hi Aman-H; Nitricc is clean. I have never compromised my soul for TPLF’s free air ticket and a free visit to Ethiopia and Tigray. Don’t worry about me. I didn’t sold my soul to the highest biter. NO!

          • Hashela

            Selam Amanuel

            Please correct me if I am mistaken, following for you comments over an extended period I feel that you made a smooth transition from bitterness (ምረት) to a Stockholm syndrome-like behavior. Stockholm syndrome is where a hostage strongly sympathizes with the captor (hijacker).

            Nobody is denying the ancestral link between Tegaru and some of our Kebessa people. The same can be said with the people of eastern Sudan and western Eritrea. Our Rashida have a strong link with people from the Arabian Peninsula.

            Despite the brotherhood/sisterhood that exists between the people of East Africa, our transnational relationship should be governed by international laws and normative and adherence to these laws. While the current Ethiopian Government official accepted the relevant laws and verdict, TPLF is hijacking the nascent and fragile peace process. TPLF cadres and their Eritrean sympathizers are trying here to sell us TPLF’s game of ሓሸውየ (“accepted in principle”, “people-to-people”). I and several other people are challenge TPLF’s dishonesty and Orwellian doublespeak. If you and I disagree in this matter, I am fine with it.

            Most importantly, I have no issues with the Tigrayan people who are also the victim of TPLF adventurism.

            Best Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Hashela,

            “Stockholm syndrome” really! I think it has no any value to continue the discussion, and you could live with your bitterness, if it helps you. You asked me to correct you. The way I see you, even if I try, it won’t work. However, it gives me a good hint about you. Have a good one.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Ahlen Ya Prof Hashela!
            “You are too slow”, like a certain Gurregna says it here.
            There is a legit reason as to why Mahmuday gave up on some….

          • Nitricc

            No one denying that we are the people of two countries. What our problem is the way you treating us. When you started your own revolution, we stick with you, we helped you grow, train arm and made you defenders you cause. Once you enter 4-kilo on the back of our won tanks, we stayed behand to make sure your power is stabilized and footed. Once you made user your power
            was stabilized and firm; you expel every Eritrean because you didn’t like the colo of their eyes. Thousands died thousands more displaced. If that is not enough, you gather the revenge driven Amara, Oromo and every Ethiopian whose father lost in Eritrea, stood up in unisons to settle a score and once for all to eliminate Eritrea from the face of the Erath. Your plan was simple; ignite a war, bring back Assab, get the loyalty and respect of the Ethiopian people and scre Eritrea forever and ever. What happened in the war, I rather you ask to your crying general who was wept for weeks and weeks? I assume, giving the magnitudeof the defeat, I am sure, he is still crying. Fast-forward, the court rendered its verdict, despite final and binding agreement, the TPLF thugs refused for the last 20 years. Instead opened up a refugee comp to drain the youth and the evil design of no war no Pease were implemented. Eritrea lost all of her youth but managed to just survive somehow. Now, when few Oromo ditched you from power while you holding the tanks, and the banks, where there was nowhere to go but hide in Mekele hotles; does it make sense for you to tell Eritreans that you are their bother? If I was a Tigryan, I wouldn’t count on we are brothers BS; the truth is we are living side by side in two different countries. We can make a peace and live our lives, our economies and growth are tied but to do so, there is one thing you need to do. Ask forgiveness for the horrific crimes you have committed against the people of Eritrea and get the hell out of Eritrean land. The more you screw around the more the rop is tightening around your neck.

          • sara

            selam solomon
            .. there are many people around the world with such similarities and that is OK.. it ends there., that doesn’t make them one people or brothers and sisters. similarities are just similarities….
            think…now Solomon… Eritreans have at a time been invaded or occupied by Turkish… Egypt
            Italian , British..Ethiopian …. but un like many who went though similar situations… they kept their heritage,culture,language, unity etc.
            go some where who went through such experience and see how they are… that makes us different than many from near and far living people.

          • Solomon

            Selam Sara,

            What makes Tigringa speaking Eritreans different than Somalis who live in four different countries or the Afar who live in three different countries just to mention examples in the horn. They are the same people who just live in different countries mainly due to colonialism or some other causes. I never heard any body arguing that Ethio Afars are different from Eritrean Afars. The same goes for Somalis .

          • Hashela

            Selam Solomon

            ካብ ሓውካ ግሬቤትካ
            Just try to be a good neighbor who respects his neighbors’ properties. Come in only when invited and leave BEFORE you are told to do so.

          • sara

            selamat solomon,
            you said ” they are the same people who just live in different countries mainly due to colonialism or some other causes”
            as you said if they are the same people… and the reason was colonialism…. and colonialism is gone for good why they are not back to where they where….. you also think maybe other causes
            no causes as such but there are reasons, and those reasons are what you are reading from eritreans in this forum..

          • Solomon

            Selam Sara,

            True, colonialism is gone but its legacy or effect is almost permanent . We can’t change that . You know all African countries boundary is demarcated according to colonial era boundaries except few countries like South Sudan who become sovereign after liberation struggle. That’s why we got Somalis in Ethiopia and Somalia .In my opinion the later reasons are due to the primary cause.

          • Abi

            Selam Solomon
            እቺ ጎንበስ ጎንበስ ዕቃ ለማንሳት ነው ይባሃል::

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Samuel:
            Regret yo tell you,with all due respect,It so obvious the way u and certain Solomon and G/Medhin comment here,for the most part,is but only partially true, if not ,untruthful, not just inconsistent !

            Are you the Asst “ Prof” Sarisa of Mekele Univ,who was debating with His Excellency,Ustaz Salih Kadi Johar thru the SBS Radio ?

            Please listen to the recent SBS Radio Interview of both gentlemen and be the Judge.

            No bias or offense here but that “Prof” has no clue about what he was trying to say or relay besides his obvious vagueness and inconsistency … flip-flopping and contradictory statements every second.

            His articulation is/was so poor that it was/is difficult to follow him.
            Saleh was,expectedly,clear and straightforwardly minus his deliberate stumbling on the official refusal of demarcating the border by the TPLF.

            In my naive opinion,Beyene Semere’s choice of Salih’s Partner was quite wrong (of the SBS RADIO) !

            N.B.
            Dear Ustaz SGJ and other interested Eritreans:
            You should have been awarded with at least an honorary PHD and Professorship even though your 20 years of extensive work,research and the three books could have earned you a PhD Degree easily!

            You successfully combined your genetic /natural talent and your learned behavior / effort to the best and to the maximum of your capacity.

            Here is the gist of my message:

            “ Nizigheberlka wey nigherelu wey ghiberelu”!

            I found out that the late Brother/Fratello Yemanu Jehar( Johar) ,RIP,of the De LaSalle Christian Brothers(Of St Joseph Schools of Keren and Asmera as well as that of the famous St Joseph High Schools of Addis(and Diredawa))is/was your second cousin/ immediate)!

            I think you mentioned this on your Negarit few months ago when u talked about —— origins ,etc.

            -He was the most genius and brilliant person,intellectual and Leader I have ever met in my life with three Degrees earned within two-three years from the USA!

            -He was my fav High School Biology Teacher at The Holy Savior Major Seminary in early 1980s!

            -He served in the Top Leadership in the International Catholic Services and De LaSalle Christian Brothers Community in Eritrea,Ethiopia,Kenya and S Africa in particular,and all over the world in general .This is besides teaching at all levels of Institutions and Education!

            -He was the Secretary of the ECS(Ethio-Eritrean Catholic Secretariat)sponsored by the International Catholic Services/ Caritas, who succeeded to Fund thru same Caritas planned to build the multimillion $$ Anseba River Dam,which the Italians initiated in 1930s .
            This Project was a unique in its kind since the plan was to build a big Dam to revive the ElaBerid Estate and to provide huge Irrigation System covering the entire Anseba and Sahel all the way to Barca going thru Halhal and Jengheren;and an artificial River going through the heart of Keren was on the Project(around the year 1985-1986).It was projected to generate enough HEP( Hydroelectric Power)for 75% of Eritrea-they said so)!

            Here is the sad part of it:

            Despite the Derghi Regime approved it and that the Genius Brother Yemanu Jehar succeeded in getting the budget in EXCESS from the Catholic Caritas and in making Bishop Zecarias of the Eri Catholic Church to sign the final sig to go ahead as planned, very few Regionalist Clergy Members convinced the Bishop to annul the project claiming that that huge money was too much $$ to be assigned to Awraja Sehit ONLY!

            Bingo! Here we go typical and destructive Awrajawinet in Eritrea !!

            This is a confirmed history (a verbatim narration)by Aba Kerlos(Charles) Ze Glass of the Cistercians per my 1:1 personal Interview.

            Here is another story and contribution by the late Bro Yemanu Jehar:

            He also played a role along with his Team from the De LaSalle Christian Brothers thru same Catholic Caritas and along with other Catholic Clergy like Aba Meconen Tekhle of Keren et al,I believe the current Vatican Amb to Ethiopia,who played a big role in the Project to build the BEST and World Class International Catholic Univ of Eritrea in 1995 or so .The project was fully funded and ready to be built in Eritrea to be open to ALL ERITREANS of all backgrounds,irrespective of their origin,tribe,religion,region or language including all Africans but PIA and Min Salih Osman,the then Min of Education,turned it DOWN!!!

            Don’t ask me why!

            Then this ambitious project was transferred to Ethiopia and the St Thomas Aquinas Univ was built recently at the Heart of Addis Abeba, a world class and one of the biggest and the BEST universities in Africa .

            I think it might have taken over Nairobi??
            On a side note.

            BREAKING NEWS:

            -We all heard about yesterday’s devastating and embarrassing breaking news from Asmera that the Ethiopian Catholic Leadership led by his Holiness/Excellency,Cardinal Birhane-Yesus was deported back to Ethiopia out of blue from an ORDER FROM THE ABOVE,after being detained for 16 hrs in the Asmera Airport after Immigration Clearance and getting an entry visa for a month and while waiting to be picked up by the Eritrean Catholic Cardinal,His Holiness/Excellency Cardinal MenghisteAb,who OFFICIALLY INVITED the Ethiopian Team to attend the Golden Jubilee (50 yrs)Anniversay of Kidane Mihret ( Our Mother of Mercy)Cathedral of Asmera!
            Apparently, as a revenge to the same Ethiopian Catholic Leadership for condemning the horrific and abuse confiscation and closure of the famously successful and efficient Eri Catholic Education abd Healthcare System through the Eastern Africa Catholic Conference!

            This is base on what the toxically Pro Pfdj TN.Com,who explained the reason for the deportation as ”Yegodda biresa Uetegodda Ayresam”, by specifically giving the reason I stated.
            Kabzi ZikhefeE wo Zehizin wo zehiffir entay allo, albeit done deliberately?

          • Abi

            Hello Sultan
            Sigh…

          • Abi

            Hello Samuel
            እዋይ!!

          • Nitricc

            My two cents for you, follow the rules, first try to do your job that is ask DIA to work with PMAA and border commission to resolve the issue, then we will see who is the obstacle. Urge your dictator to urge border commission and PMAA to resolve it ASAP.

            Hi Smuel; your dishonesty and deceit is unmatched. You think this is a game but the people of Ethiopia and Eritrea has had it. it is a matter of time before you take the innocent people of Tigray with you to your graves. Now; you are saying knowing PMAA has no control over your hell on earth Tigray. The man guaranteed you immunity by free exit by dismissing your crime and embellishment, yet, you tried to kill him. you, you TPLF thugs never deserve neither immunity nor forgiveness. You need to be hunted and brought to justice with no mercy. I know you are embolden by outdated armaments and light weight weapons but those weapons need spare parts, need ammunition and need corridor to pass to you. you know what there are none. You will die like a god, sandwiched from north to south. nowhere to go. I know you may be you are the first one to hold locust as POW but you are the worst, laziest and dumbest of all human being. We shall see how far it takes you this arrogance coupled with stupidity and whiskey. You will see, it won’t be long before you kiss the Ethiopians shoes asking forgiveness. Eritreans should think seriously putting a barrier or wall right in the border. that is the only way the Eritreans can live in peace away from the stupid goons. I am serious.

  • Haile S.

    Selam Awatistas,

    What happened guys? Did you find out who our Sultan is?
    Let me try my chance. GheTeb or Kbrom reincarnated.

    • Sultan M.G.

      Selam Wo Sennay Prof Dr.Hailat:
      Bless your heart Prof Haile S.

      Here is how and why I have admired Prof Gheteb more than ever now.

      I can’t post the link before Sat but you can go to the Facebook and check about the latest Archaeological wonders on /about Eritrea,the origin of humanity and history .
      Archaeology confirmed what Prof Gheteb was narrating about Adulis as the ORIGIN of the origins!

      The Axumite history is just yesterday’s history compared to the 130,0000 yrs old history of our own Adolis!
      More than 130,000 years old history!

      The Eri Archaeologist boldly and proudly declared that world history should be re-written based on the new Archaeological discoveries in Eritrea!

      There are more than 8000 Archaeological sites to be dug in Eritrea,where about 800 of them are in Asmera area.

      • Haile S.

        Selamat Hope,

        Welcome back first! You were miseed!
        Second bravo Abi the Abiy. He guessed right.

        Talking about Adulisia, GheTeb had points. The pre-Axumite civilization search has even contaminated those who appeared skeptical about such possibility north of Mereb. Now such finding south of Mereb near Yiha is getting applauded. I hope archeological and historical analysis will be depoliticized and discussions diverted to academic analysis and presented to people of the region as they are.
        Good reading you again.

      • Abi

        Nefse
        8000 archaeological sites
        800 around Asmara
        The zeros are coming back slowly but surely . Soon they will morph to 000000000000000 hopefully.

    • Abi

      ጋሽዮ
      ጨርቆስ ይቅር ይበሉህ
      እዋይ

      • Haile S.

        Aba tlQu,

        I confirmed you were right in my response to hope below. He is the only one who says “selam wo senay” when saluting as he did to me below.

        • Abi

          ጋሽዬ
          ሆፕ ገራገሩ ከተማ ያደምቃል:: የእብድ ነገር ይሄው ነው ጥቅሙ

          “ግመል ሰርቆ ተጎንብሶ” ይላሉ ዘመዶቼ

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Abi(NiEshtoy):
            (if at all u desreve it but to comply with the rule.”
            ” የእብድ ነገር ይሄው ነው ጥቅሙ”
            Anta ebud kelbi niRiEsikha.Weyleke Tewsakhitey aybezhendo hijis.??
            Abey zello keidi-albo gurregna.affaf eyyu ” ezzzuy.GizzaE MizzaE…”
            afka kelbi yishinno.Get LOST..

          • Abi

            Hello sultanye
            I love you too.

    • Sultan M.G.

      Selam Wedi Abeiti:
      Hahahah Hailat, I didn’t know that I am that “smart and GENIUS” to trick and confuse people!

      • Haile S.

        Selam again Tesfa,

        Stay please! ኣይቕጥዑ!

        I apologize moderator! Let the sin be on me.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat,

      Your forensic language examination is completely out of mark. Your ideological screening test for individual visa vis the regime is also out of mark. Let me give you a hint:

      (a) Gheteb uses a tone of adverbs and Latin words.

      (b) Kbrom’s positions is always against the regime in Asmara.

      Change your test agents and run your analysis. Then definitely, you will rule out them both.

      Now who is “Sultan”? Sultan supports the Issayas regime. Sultan echoes the policy of the regime. Sultan loves to talk about past heroism. Now figure him out.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Emma,

        “Now figure him out”. I did. You might have not read what I read after. On the language forensics, yes, it is not my speciality. You were off target too!

        • Abi

          ጋሽዬ
          “ከመቼው መጣና ተመልሶ ሄደ
          እንደተጠላ ሰው እንዳልተወደደ”

          እናንተ ስትከራከሩ ሱልጣን በዜሮ ተሸኝቷል::

          ባለ ስልጣን 3
          ሱልጣን 0

          • Haile S.

            ኣባ ትልቁ

            ሂሱና ግለሂሱ (እርስዎ በትልቁ) እንቀበሎው
            ማጋለጡን ላይቀር፡ ጥንቀቅ በል ሳንለው

            ተመልሶ ጠፋ በዛው እንደመጣ
            ገና ኣልበረደም ያረጋጊው ቁጣ

          • Abi

            ጋሽዬ
            ቁጣ የሚቀናቸው የቀዬው ሃላፊ
            አቀመሱት ጥፊ ይሄንን ለፍላፊ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ካብ ኣርእስቲ ወጻኢ
    ከብሉና ሸታሕታሕ
    ይምህዙ ዘይከውን ምፍሕፋሕ
    ከብሉና ፋሕ
    እዋይ! ክሓስም ዘምነ-ህግደፍ ከርፋሕ

    ሎምስ ከኣ ደገፍ ረኺቦም ካብ ባህርዳር
    ኣስመራ ውዒሎም ደብረ-ብርሃን ምሕዳር
    ሓድሽ ናይ ዓቢ-ዓርገን ምምሕዳር
    ዓርቂ ነቓዕ ሰባር

    ድዮም ዝበሉ ሓቀይ
    ግይጽ-ምይጽ በለ ወዲ-ኣፈይ [ሳጓ ትኽ ኢላ ካብ ባሌ ዝመጸት]

    ናይ ኣርባዕተ-ኪሎ ኩርኩር ነበሐ
    ዘይግብኦ ብልጫ ምስወሰደስ
    መሰሎ ዝበለሐ
    ግን ዝፈልጠ ኣይመስለንን
    ወዲ መድህን-በራድ ኣሎ ካብኡ ዝጎረሐ
    ጊሐ

  • Sultan M.G.

    Hello All:
    A great recap.That is PIA’s modus operandi!
    Addendum:
    Background:
    -Few historical facts to be considered when dealing about the Horn of Africa Affairs vis-avis Eritrea Affairs:

    A)On the Eri-Sudanese Affairs:

    1)The Al Beshir Govt effectively and successfully contributed to the massacre of more than 9000 EDF members,the WORST CASUALTY in the Eritrean Armed Struggle History,EVER,during the third TPLF Offensive at western front of Tesenei alone!

    2)The Al Beshir Govt was a major part of the EVIL Sana’a Axis against Eritrea and Eritreans,not just against PIA

    3)The Al Beshir Govt played a dangerous role by escalating its solidarity with TPLF against Eritrea and Eritreans through its official Security,Defense and Intelligence Agreement including (with)the deployment of well equipped Army along with a new Airbase of the TPLF near Kessela ,few yards away from Eritrea

    4) Finally,the Al Beshir Govt closed the ERI-Sudanese border to choke up Eritrea and Eritreans so as to APPEASE the TPLF

    N.B.

    I took it fore granted that under the Guidance of Dr Hassan Al Turabi and the Al Quadra Leader, Osama bin Ladin(”RIP”) ,Al Beshir Govt declared to create an Islamic State of Eritrea,which led to a brief but unprecedented and dangerous civil war between Eritreans( The Islamic Jihadists commandeered by Afghan and Pakistani Al Quaeda Commanders Vs the EDF,which in return led to the sad incident of kidnapping of some Islamic School Teachers in Keren and some Wealthy and Influential Eritrean Muslims in Asmera with an excuse of labeling them as collaborators of/to the Al Quaeda-led Jihadists !

    The end result :

    -S Sudan got independent and the Sudan Economy sunk overnight.

    -Al Beshir got thrown out of his power and was dumped into jail with his pending case at the ICC

    Eri-Yemeni Affairs:

    1)Consider the historical negative role of the Yemenis against Eritrea in solidarity with the Derghi Regime

    2)The Hannish Kibir incident and its final fate / verdict along with the losing of the biggest Red Sea Islands and its implication against the National Security Interest of Eritrea and Eritreans,not just against PIA

    3)The negative role of the Yemenis against Eritrea as part of the Evil Axis along with the Sudan and the TPLF besides their Security,Defense and Intelligence Agreement with the same TPLF in isolating and containing Eritrea and Eritreans, not just PIA

    The end result?

    Total destruction of Yemen!

    It is legit and politically correct for Eritrea to take any retaliatory measures against Yemen but it has not been necessary to do so since Yemen COMMITTED a huge suicide!
    Id shendahit TSENAHIT!

    Eri-Djibouti Affairs:

    Over all,Eritrea NEVER has had major issues with Djibouti. It is the little Jabooty ,which opted to have fabricated issues and conflicts with Eritrea to appease its masters and sponsors .

    Djibouti escalated the fabricated issues to join the evil camp of the TPLF to sanction Eritrea and Eritreans, not just PIA !

    The technical mistakes made by PIA are non-issues and IRRELEVANT so as to punish Eritrea and Eritreans!

    Eri -Somalia Affairs:

    1)There has been historical and life-saving ties between Eritrea and Somalia,hence,called the second home of Eritreans and that relationship shall be ETERNAL for obvious mutual reasons .

    2)Eritrea did consider the above historical ties when it “ interfered “ in the business of Somalia besides considering its National Security Interest when it escalated the interference during the Ethio-Eritrea war, due to ”the between life and death scenario” it was trapped into.

    3)ERITREA considered it to be its OBLIGATION to unify the Somalis and to build a United and Strong Somalia.

    4)The Al Shebab saga .and blame on Eritrea was but a fake one ,if not an exaggerated one if at all any interference ,as later on proven as such by the same evil, fake and biased SEMG and its sponsors.

    The only mistake the PFDJ Regime/PIA ,due to reasons only known to PIA, made was that it forgot that it was acting and dealing with/ AGAINST serious Geopolitical and National Security Interests of the Superpowers!

    The naive PFDJ learned belatedly that truth and justice do not matter but INTEREST!

    The ERI-TPLF ETHIOPIA Affairs:

    No need to waste time on this issue but for the naive:
    The TPLF AGENDA against Eritrea and Eritreans has been and is , and will be:
    To destroy ERITREA and Eritreans and anything Eritrean …. thereby create a STRONG TIGRAI REPUBLIC by all means possible.
    They have attempted to execute this evil agenda by all means possible under the SUN but have failed thus far .

    The end result?

    Being quarantined in their ”Star” City of Mekele!
    Good luck to them
    One more SUCCESS STORY:
    Eritrea beat up all its adversaries into convincing successfully the GCC Alliance including Cairo and Saudi Arabia and became party of that Alliance thereby got itself out of the cold .

    Not only that but it also equipped WELL the Oromo Querros and turned its bloody and nightmare enemy -Ethiopia,to be its loyal friend and partner in peace and got what it wanted :

    -For Ethiopia to accept the Algiers Agreement and the EEBC VERDICT unconditionally

    -To lift the illegal but crippling sanctions

    -To reconcile with it’s generations old enemy,the USA.

    Irrespective of the alleged obstacles by the TPLF,”The UN-institutionalized Peace Deal” issue and the dividends for Eritrea and Eritreans is another topic of utmost importance, a big time FAILURE of the PFDJ REGIME!

    That should be the FOCUS on Eritreans.

    Here is the final take HOME MESSAGE:

    “ Lo to those, who attempt to kill Eritrea and Eritreans since those who did so are either already DEAD-and /or will die”!

    Here is the BIGGEST DEAL of our Century:

    Irrespective of, and despite (of) the more than 60 years old evil agenda,conspiracy,atrocities,aggressions ,invasions, massacres of kids and pregnant women and raping of the elderliy,the horrible deportations and confiscations of their life long earnings, devastating wars, destruction of cemeteries of our martyrs and our infrastructure,sanctions,sabotages ,policies of “no war and no peace status”, that of isolation,and containment ,conspiracies and setting for the EXODUS of Eritreans, etc.. :

    Eritrea and Eritreans have ,NOT ONLY remained INTACT as a NATION and as a people , but have STOOD UP way TALLER and STRONGER than ever … way way. BETTER TALLER and STRONGER than those same bunch of Evil Axis Countries ,which had done their best capacity to destroy us -Eritreans and our Beloved and JEWEL Eritrea . and AGAINST ALL ODDs…

    Hence, and INDEED,Eritreans should be PROUD of themselves no matter what and irrespective of the hiccups ,trauma and devastating journeys we have gone through!

    This is a unique MIRACLE!

    The ONLY thing we need now is to renew and revive our time tested formidable Unity in Diversity thereby to take over our destiny and to reclaim what belongs to us and compensate for the lost opportunities by destroying and. cleansing up anyone and anything in our way including our internal and external enemies!
    This should be a serious PLEDGE by all ERITREANS of all kinds of background and across the globe!

    And NO Eritrean should be left behind under any circumstance!

    From YeAkil to YikeAl.thru the United People of Midre-YikeAlo Eritrea!

    • Abi

      Hello Sultan
      Welcome!
      HOPEfully you stay with us.

      Anybody wondering where is Hope ገራገሩ?

      • Paulos

        Abination,

        You think Sultan is Hope? He can’t be for he trips here and there and rubs Aya Saleh’s prominent and majestic nose the wrong way. He hasn’t done that so far.

        • Abi

          Paul
          Pay attention!!
          Who starts a comment with “ addendum “?
          Took me one whole second 😉

      • Paulos

        Abination,

        I think that’s Muhamuday. No?

        • Abi

          Paul
          This is cousin Hope without the zeros.
          ሆፕ ተመለሰ አገሩ ከራርሞ
          ያለ የሌለውን ዜሮ ተሸክሞ

    • Paulos

      Sultan,

      In the meantime, Isaias says, ባጽዕ ሉል ናይ ቀይሕ ባሕሪ ትባሃል ኔራ ሎሚ ግን ባጽዕ ኣበይ’ኣላ ባጽዕ የላን. He goes on to say that, ዓሰብ ኣበይ ኣላ? ዓሰብ የላን.

      ናታትኩም ነገር ዝገርም’ዩ፣ ኣቦይን ኣደይን በበይኑ ጾለቶም ኩይኑ ስራሕኩም፣ ባዕሉ መራሒኹም ሀገር የላን እንዳበለኩም፣ ኣይፋልካን ኣላ ትብልዎ? ዕድለኛ ዝኾነ መራሒ!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Dr Paulos,

        This “Sultan guy” reminds me our friend Mahmuday in his writing styles and in the way he report a story from “here and there.”

        • Paulos

          Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

          Probably but it is really sad to see them bending backward for a guy who doesn’t have any respect for any of them.

      • Sultan M.G.

        Ahlen Doc:
        U missed the ENTIRE MESSAGE!
        Re-read it, please!
        I know it is a long hateta with a naive intention to refresh the historical events and “to supplement to the Article” ,but just focus on the last paragraphs.
        Our only and daily Prayer is:
        -To unify Eritreans under ONE Umbrella so as to rally them for ONE and the INKO GOAL:
        To EXPEDITE the PAST DUE change we have longed for a long time and to execute Phase II of our Liberation/Independence:
        – FULL Harnnet
        -A constitutionally governed Eritrea and Eritreans
        -To build a UNITED and the strongest Eritrea Socio-economically ,culturally and politically as well as militarily along with the BEST SECURITY and INTELLIGENCE !
        We are ONLY few steps away!
        Just advice the HIWEHAT either to work with us peacefully and respectfully, if not to leave us alone and to mind their business.

        • Paulos

          D*mn you Muhamuday, is that you? Where you been man? We miss you. Really. Hope all is well with you including your bright kids. Are they in College yet? Anyway, welcome back. ንሓያት ኣደም ሒዝካያ ዝጠፋእካ ገደደ. Hope she comes back. ከምዛ ትሪኣ ኣነን ኣማንን ሃይላትን በረሀን ኢና ተሪፍና፣ ዳርጋ’ኹላ ኣንሳሓብ ጌራ’እያ።

          • Sultan M.G.

            Thanks Doc for the warm welcome!
            The respect is MUTUAL!
            Ms Hayat is being recalled(back) to Dedebit Headquarters for urgent Consultations!
            I miss her genius and organizing mind and articulation / eloquence (minus her deliberately biased and hypocritical arguments at times )
            Haha haha !

          • Paulos

            Sultan,

            Abination is right on the money, you ain’t Muhamuday. Anyway, welcome back Hope. Be cool with Aya Saleh for he is ኣብ ቀረባ these days 😂.

          • Abi

            Paul
            This is a partial list of some of the nicknames my beloved cousin Hope used throughout the years
            Hope
            Truth
            Tesfa
            Jemal
            Explorer
            Examiner
            Train
            Hussein
            ( I’m tired already)

          • Sultan M.G.

            Paulos said:
            14 hours ago
            “Selam Sultan,
            If the diagnosis is Hiwahat, don’t you think it is logical for us that we should make the effort to get rid of Hiwahat in a bid to turn Eritrea into Singapore. I think that is a brilliant idea!”

            Selamat Ya Doctor Paulos:
            Your sarcasm aside,ideally ,the ideal way of treating or curing the disease is treating the cause,not the symptoms.
            And as such,since the root causes of our problems are both the PFDJ and Hiwehat,they both should have been booted out for good a long time ago if Ethio-Eritrean problem is to be booted out for good.
            Darwin was right at the $$$$ when he postulated “the survival of the fittest” and that matters and both evil and crooked entities are trying to be the fittest …. but to no end as to which one is or will be the fittest!
            Hence,both nations and peoples have remained the victims of both competing evil regimes!
            That answers your question that,YES,indeed the HIWEHAT should have been removed long time ago for two major reasons:
            -Due to its overt and covert destructive agenda against Eritrea as a nation and against Eritreans as a people . Am quoting verbatim what the TPLF Giants and its elite as well as its supporters declared publicly and did their best on the ground through ugly and destructive war and thru all other devastating modalities available to them to the extent of either capturing and annexing Aseb and /or to overrun Asmera so as to place their own puppet govt and/ or to reverse the Eritrean Independence -again in the very true words and public declaration by same TPLF and its elite as well as its supporters( Read:The TIGRAI PEOPLE)!

            And these are PROVEN ( Chairman Adam Schiff).

            -For directly pr by proxy keeping the PFDJ Regime to stay stronger thru the very evil divisive and polarizing agenda by the same TPLF against Eritreans and the Opposition Groups,a well documented FACT no one can deny or refute as the same TPLF and its elite said and did so!

            And these are PROVEN ( Chairman Adam Schiff)!

            Moreover, as if the above FAILED EVIL AGENDA and the destructive wars, sanctions,economic,political and diplomatic sabotages , the dangerous and effectively successful policies of NO War no PEACE Status ,Containment and ,Isolatuon through the evil axis weren’t enough, the TPLF and its supporters resorted to the worst old new tricks of divisive and polarizing TOXIC and treacherous propaganda in the name of AgAzian,Tigrai Tigringni and Fake Brotherhood.

            And all these are PROVEN as well( Chairman Adam Schiff)!

            Ask Berhe Yeman,a principled Awastista and an Original Wedi’bat Eritrean,who should have been DECLARED the Awatista of the Year!

            Here is my challenge to both Professors:

            Put aside for a moment,your sarcasm, your bias and your deliberate Ms Hayat Adem style and perceived “political acrobatics and Intellectual Bankruptcy”( sorry) ,but rather refute the above well documented facts and come up with the most NEUTRAL and unbiased constructive solutions to/for our no ending problems within Eritrea and among Eritreans and with the TPLF and Tigreyans in particular, and with the Ethiopians in general!

            First thing FIRST though:

            Do so with full honesty, integrity and truthfulness based on facts and in the context of a NON-NEGOTIABLE INDEPENDENT and SOVEREIGN ERITREA !

            Am all ears!

            Am ready to forward my old new suggestions to that effect.
            Sultan

          • Samuel

            Selam Sultan M.G,
            You started with “treating the cause, not the symptoms“, I thought you will be dead serious but 50 plus lines you didn’t even touched the cause of all evils (DIA). All your “Hateta” is about the usual excuse TPLF/Ethiopia…. Clean your house first!!

            Thanks,

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Samuel,
            I truly believe we are one of those who are really messed up people.
            We know the mad man dictator in Asmara is a screwed up person, but we won’t admit: we don’t want Woyane to be happy. We won.
            We are those people who want as long as TPLF is completely wiped out, we don’t care if Eritrea goes to the drain with them. We won!
            We are those people who want to claim Badme is ours while many villages, including the Village of the Nakfa Hero, በርሀ ጻዕዳ, is now given to Ethiopia. Because this makes Woyane mad. We won.

            Our dictator gave every responsibility to the newbie Ethiopian leader at the cost of our independence. Woyane will be pissed off. We won.

            I could go on and on and to make it worse, our so called elites believe it and echoes it.
            In stead of addressing the priority, the root cause of Eritrean problem, they talk about the 2ndary issues day in and out.
            Shame.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Kibir Wo Hifur Engineer:

            Hahaha Engineer!

            Read my follow up response to Samuel.
            You got it completely “WRONG”, which I would never dare to say to any one you are wrong unless am 200% sure.
            Your case scenario is one of those exceptions where am quite 200% sure that your are quite “ wrong” or better stated, you got it wrong!

            Do not read what is NOT written down
            Was just making an addendum to what the two BIASED Professors stated… for completeness.
            But here is the fact that you cannot change:
            It has been HIWEHAT,which publicly and practically declared and did its best to destroy Eritrea and Eritreans in their very own words and deeds!

            That does not mean that IA did nothing wrong or is innocent or is not the culprit.
            Don’t twist or manipulate facts conveniently so as to attack innocent citizens and label or “baptize“ them with new names .

            You should be the one,who is MESSED UP for ignoring the unheard of evil agenda and atrocities by none but the HIWEHAT!

            It was not IA’s fault to award Hero Berhe Tsaeda’s village to Tigrai!

            Sir:
            It was the TPLF, who falsely claimed those Sovereign Eri Territories and made fake maps incorporating a chunk of Sovereign Eri Territories;hence,blame the Hague Judges and the TPLF.
            It was the same TOLF,who invaded and incorporated Adi Murug and claimed Burrie and surroundings to claim an access to our Red Sea .
            It was no one else but the TOLF ,who harassed, tortured and deported our poor peasants at the borders including at Baduma and who killed our innocent EDF Officers, who tried to address the problem and calm down things.
            U don’t have to tell me that Gen Wuchu invaded Baduma or IA ordered to evacuate Aseb as I know all the facts. Am telling you the other facts!.
            No body has denied the 50 yrs old Evil conspiracies, agenda and crimes by Issu and his enablers but we are blaming his other partners in crime Against Eritrea and Eritreans, none else but the TPLF,which is equally or more responsible for our misery.

            Say it LOUD and don’t be shy if you are an Eritrean before Gen.Nittric chases you!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Sultan M.G
            I am sorry to disappoint you but your facts are in fact they are NOT.
            1. Your dictator gave Badme to Woyane because they helped him to remove Jebha out of Eritrea. So, those same Woyanes are you friend.
            2. Your dictator started the Badme war, even though he was defeated badly. All, I can say is I lost my dear brother and Aunt on that same same place. I wish they knew what I know now. To you and your likes is a game but for me it is personal. It hurts to lose 2 brothers during the independence war more than the Badme war.
            3. Your dictator told you in Tigrigna (unless you don’t understand the language), that demarcation is not a priority and he outsourced the responsibility to the fake Ethiopian leader and you are still blaming Woyane for the border issue. How lame and cruel is that.

            To me, what this cruel dictator is doing is personal because I have lost so many direct family members to see our Eritrea flourished.
            What is it to you?

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Mehandisay:
            Again you are conveniently reading things out of context despite that I clearly made crystal clear disclaimers and stated the facts as they are.
            The issue at hand is not about who stated what and why but about the equally or more destructive role of the TPLF you et al conveniently ignoring.
            -As Prof Dr Salih Younis said it eloquently ,it was not necessary for your TPLF to escalate the war and declare war officially and hectically to the extent of invading a third of our country coz of a minor knee jerk reaction by a local commander .
            It was not necessary to use innocent human beings as cannon fodders and to victimize innocent 120, 0000 human beings.
            -It was NOT necessary and was NOT moral to destroy a nation and its entire people through illegal sanctions,sabotages,no war no peace policies, deportations etc…. coz someone called them Agames …when there was was a simple peaceful resolution in place..
            More than 50% of the Eritrean casualties and more than 1 million displacements occurred after the peace deal was on place.
            You are lucky that you lost “only” 2 family members but I lost more than 25 of my own villagers ,cousins and nephews at Baduma and Tessenei besides two Colonels.,who were victims of the system!
            So you knock it off, please the way..,you are…
            If you are legitimizing the atrocities by the TPLF and its keidi-allbo hegemony, simply coz IA miscalculated things,then I rest my case with you.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Sultan M.G,
            That is nonsense. There is no way you will lose more than me on this. I was talking direct families only. If not, it will be in thousands.
            You are talking Jibrish here. This war was a reckless war of your dictator. Not mine because I rejected him long time ago.
            BTW, your dictator is a cousin of those TPLF you are blaming.

            Why are you blaming Woyane when you have the worst enemy inside? He is our main enemy, then blame someone else.

            ሓባል በልያ ከይቀደመትኪ ኮይኑ ስራሕካ።

            You can’t answer what I ask you because you know you will lose.
            ብደቂ ኣርበዓ ኳ ተዋሪድና

            ዓዲ ጅግና በርሀ ጻዕዳ ኣጥፊእካ ብኻልእ ክትዛረብ ናይ ጒሒላታት ሜላ ከምዝ ከማኻ ‘ዩ።

            Waste of time to reason with you. The end.

          • Sultan M.G.

            Selam Mehandisay:
            “ ብደቂ ኣርበዓ ኳ ተዋሪድና”!
            Are you kidding me?
            Wondering who you might be???
            From the border?
            That is what we call the gibberish of all the gibberish!
            I just stated the facts !
            Dude,you are crossing the redline. Go and fight to reclaim your lost village !
            Why can’t you go and chase your nightmare enemy,IA?
            I don’t have to blame the TPLF?

          • sara

            selamat mahmouday…
            welcome home… you were highly missed…
            dont lose your temper of such responses…. just keep the way we all know you the x tegadalay- mahmouday.

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            You probably don’t know “Hope.” When he was in his twenties, he wanted to try out his gig and moved to Hollywood. But as it turned out, his Stand-Up comedy flopped. Then he moved to a city called, “Awate-Land” and he has been doing Stand-Up comedy there ever since where more often than not he gets not only boos from the audience but gets thrown at him መኾስ፣ መንቀርቀር፣ መኸምብያ ኮታስ ኩሉ ኣቑሑት ናይ ክሽነኹም when he trips here and there with his ሻትራ-ማትራ!

          • Abi

            Paul
            Don’t forget my cousin Hope was also shown the doors several times for lack of talent.
            Of course he earned $0.0000000000 for his troubles.

            He quits comedy and started a small business ( ወፍጮ ቤት) somewhere in rural Ethiopia. He ran his ወፍጮ ቤት business to the ground.
            አሁን በወፍጮ ቤት ዱቄት ፊቱን ሸፍኖ ሱልጣን ሆኖ መጣ::
            የዱቄቱ ጭምብል ( mask) ብዙም አልደበቀውም:: ተስፋ ግን አይቆርጥም…

          • Sultan M.G.

            Doc:
            Why should it take years for an MD- PHD,Physicist/Philosopher guyr to figure out about HOPE.?
            Thing is TRUTH hurts…and when you tell people the TRUTH to their face,they go nuts and carzy.Thanks for clarfying that-inadvertently.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Very funny, Dottere! 🙂

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም መሃንድሻ፡

            ዝሓወይ ብፈለማ ጽንዓት ይሃብካ
            መወዳእታ ከምዘይብሉ ይርድኣኒ ናፍቖትካ
            ሓደ ነገር ግና ካይንርስዕ ንዘክሮ ከዘክረካ
            እዞም ስየ እዞም ንጹሃት እዞም ወለላ
            ንዝተረፍና ክብሉ ከይዶም ንድሕሪት ዘይብላ
            ስለ’ዚ መስዋእቶም ነኽብሮ ብሓደ እግሪ ደው ንበል ዋላ

            መስዋእቲ እንሃለካ ናይ’ዞም ዝሓለፉ’ዩ መስዋእቲ
            ውፉይነት ናቶም’ዩ፡ ዘይኮነ ናዞም ዘለዉ ሓለፍቲ
            ብኣፍ በዓል ምብዓል ጥራይ ዘይብላ ሓወልቲ
            ተምሳሎም ሓቚፍና ትኾነና መናብዕቲ

            ይርድኣኒ እንታይ ዝብል ከም ዘሎ ሓሳባትካ
            መፍትሒ ክረክብ ዝጭነቕ ዘሎ ሓንጎልካ
            ጽንዒ ኣብ ጸጉርኻ እተቐምጦ አወፍየልካ
            ካልእ ስለዘይብለይ መልሲ ተጽግበካ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Thanks Hailat!

            ኣነ ዘሕርቐኒ ደለይቲ-ፍትሒ ተመሲሎም ነዚ ሰይጣን ናይ ዓዲ-ሃሎ ክንእዱ ከለዉ።

            ብዘለና ዓቕሚ ምሉእ-ብምሉእ ናብዚ ሰይጣን ሰብኣይ ክንገብሮ ዩ ዘለና, ኣበሳና ከኽትም ተደሊና።

            ንሓደ ሰብ ምዃን ዝሰኣኒ ህዝብስ ምስ ጎረባብቲ ምውጥዋጥ ብልሒ ኣይመስለንን። ወረ ዓቕሚ የብልናን ፈቲና ጸሊእና። ‘ዛኹላ ክትቃለስ ትኽእል መንእሰይ’ኳ ኣብ ትሕቲ ‘ቶም ንጸርፎም ዘለና ‘ዮም ዘለዉ። ‘ቶም ዝተረፉ ድማ ኣብ ሊብያን ኣውሮጳን ተዘሪኦም። መን ሒዝና ኢና ደኣሞ ሕጂ ንፍክር?

            ናብ ስድራኹም ሞ ደውሉ በዓል መን ከምዝተረፉ ሕተትዎም። ዓዲ ባዶ ተሪፋ ‘ያ, ብሰንኪ ‘ዚ ሰይጣን ዓዲ ሃሎ።

            ኣብ ባይታ ዘሎ ክ ውንነት ኣብ ሓንጎልና ዝሰረጸ ኣይመስለንን። መስሓቕ ሸራፋት ኢና ኳ ኴንና ዘለና።
            ባህ ኣይበሉናን, ኣብ ውሽጥና ንግብሮ። ዝገብር ነዲኡ ነይነግር ዝበሃል ምስላ ኣበይ ኣጥፊእናዮ?

            ቀዳማይ ጸላ ኢና ኢሳያስ ዩ። ነዛ ቀላል ነገር ስለዘይፈልጥና ኢና ድማ ሸንኮለል ንብል ዘለና ኣነ ከምዝመስለኒ።

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            በጃኻ ንገረልና! ከምቲ ዝበልካዮ ዘሕምቖ’ለኒ በትረይ ሀቡኒ እዩ ነገሩ፣ ሓደ ሰብኣይ እሞ’ኻኣ ወዲ ዓዶም ዘይኮነ ጽሕጻሕ ብጽሕጻሕ ጌርዎም!

            “ንሓደ ሰብ ምዃን ዝሳኣነ ህዝብስ ምስ ጎረባብቲ ምውጥዋጥ ብልሒ ኣይመስለንን.” Spot on brother!

          • Paulos

            ማሃንድሳይ,

            ናብ ዘይሰምዓካ ደብሪ ኣይትማህለል ይብሉ ለባማት ከምዚ ከማኻ [ትሕሾ ትሕሾ–ባዕለይ ክብለልካ ኢለ’የየ.] ወያነ እንዳበሉ ክነብሩ እዮም! እንተኺእልካ’ግና ሓንቲ ግጥሚ “ወያነ ክብሉ ክነብሩ እዮም” ትብል ግጠመልና፣ የቐንየልና!

          • Haile S.

            Good morning Paul,

            Related to your request to Mehandis, do you know the proverb ነዳይ ናይ ኣፍ-ልቡ ይሓልም?

            Allow me to say this on what you said to Sara up in the comment trails:
            You are muddying the waters here, so to speak. The 45 years old event that is getting commemorated in Eritrea is different than the “ideological war of Red-Terror” you inserted. The commemoration is on the wanton killing of civilians in Asmara and surrounding villages particularly in Weki-Duba. The Red-Terror thing you mentioned had two dimensions. First, Tigray-propagandist group known as ወጣት ዘማች were recruited in Tigray and a large chunk of them were brought by the Derg to Eritrea to fight propagandistically what they called at that time the trio ጅብሃ፡ ሻዕብያ & ኣልዋሕዳ. They were also armed with guns and music (Remember Kiros Alemayehu). Second they came to make marxism leninism palatable to Eritreans. Their ideologue and leader was ፀጋ-ልዑል. He had killed enough Eritreans before getting killed. I also understand these marxists had a fight between themselves and he had killed some of his ideological colleagues (revolution eats its children!).

            ዋዛ ምስ ቁምነገር
            Your bringing of Tigray where & whenever Eritrea is mentioned reminded me of a story that we use to tell when we were youngesters. A boy was used to boasting of having everything. One day his friend as usual started the conversation saying, you have cars? Of course we have a lot of them. You have planes? Yes we have a lot of them. Do you have rockets? We have a lot of them. Do you have ጅግ__? Yes we have a lot of it.

          • Paulos

            G. Morning to you too Hailat,

            I knew Eritreans personally in Asmara who collaborated with the Dergue who had Eritreans get thrown to the dungeons. I am against a concerted effort to vilify Tigreans in particular by people with a deep seated hate and racist bend.

            Tigreans paid a heavy price to fight the Dergue including saving ሻዕብያ’s desperate behind when it got almost destroyed before it retreated to where it started. And what the Weyanes got in return? Not a gratitude but a racist propaganda that churns out hatred when the Weyanes are still receiving fleeing Eritreans to their meager adobes. The hate has to stop. The false propaganda has to stop!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,

            I am against the concerted effort of coulpabilizing Eritreans by blowing out stories and inserting narratives that has nothing to do with the subject getting discussed. Reconciliation cannot be brought through such means.

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            Now the drink is on me. Cheers!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I think what Shaebia did on the protracted war to win the war, by losing the battle is very admirable and you should not muddy that heroic history in the name of “stop hate propaganda of TPLF”.

            You are becoming what we call. HmaQ Araqi s mebaAsi. You are not trying to reconcile but you are adding fuel by bringing stuff that was said (I don’t know by how many) or done (30 or 50 years ago). In the years that they were in power, the last 30 years, I am sure they have equal if not more people who said bad things or done bad to Eritreans.

            Repeating Melles wise words in the eve of our independence in Asmara said, as your brother and your comrade in arms who fought along your side “let’s not pock our wounds and you should not pock yours” and look towards the future of peace. I take those words to heart and I am sure the most majority of Eritreans have done so.

            You think you are trying to fix the wrong but in fact your are fueling the division. I think you should leave this kind of job to the likes of Fanti Ghana and Admassie.

            If you think you have convinced a single Eritrean to your way of thinking, you are just fooling yourself.

            Here is the bright side for Eritrea. With all the hardship that Eritreans are going through, even though many attempts are made to divide us along religion, region and political difference but we are all united less NNNH.

            Ab zesemAka debri aytmahlel.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Sure thing fratello, sure thing. God bless! All the best!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhino,

            Keep in mind the “NNNN” are a big chunk of our population. The concept we are “united” is not backed by facts. Even those who are on the opposite side of “NNNN” do not have the “unity of purpose”. Let us not minimize the problem we are facing.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aman,

            Since we have not done a count, off course we will not know for sure. But based on the people that I know, I would guess it’s probably 1 in 10. And even them, they will not die protecting Isayas. Anyway, it doesn’t matter their numbers, they are irrelevant for his reason to stay in power. They are at best, money contributors at worst just cheerleaders. I know in the city that I live, with iver10,000 Eritreans, the paying members of PFDJ are less then 500, that’s even exaggerated number.

            My message is not to argue about NNNN or their numbers, but the constant, purposely none stop message Paulo has been funning to demoralize, and demeaning Eritreans and at the same time, uplifting and elevating TPLF and Tigray.

            To some degree you too are doing the same.

            I want us to focus on our people and plan and achieve in defeating the regime, regardless what others feel or think.

            For example, you were saying mokie berhe, how he is the regime apologist. But look at the reply he gave me, in what he thinks that we can do to weaken the regime. In other words, I don’t thin TPLF should come in between our people and our affairs.

            Why should we divide among ourselves if they are good or bad for us. Is there any Eritrean, other than may be Isayas, who is involved in inside Tigray/ TPLF politics and dividing them, telling them and reminding them, ERITREAN’s are goid people, they defeat the Derg, they died for us at Shire/ Enda Slassie, they helped us to reach Addis Abeba, even though we deported 70 thousands of them etc..and we were really, really bad to them..

            This is how I feel right now… I don’t think they are foolish and naive to think this will ever work.
            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            NNNN

            Hi Berhe; what does NNNN mean?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitric,

            It’s short for Nitric.

            Nihna Nisu, Nisu Nihan.

            We are him (Isayas) and he (Isayas) is us.

            Just like you:). You are the 1%.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            Hi Nitricc

            I guess it means: nHna nsu, nsu nHna.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Hashela; thank you. I was thinking some kind breakthrough idea or formula; I don’t know something fresh and up to date. Who ever came up with garbage needs a life. What I came to understand about the people of Eritrea is they know. they are not going to sway by some disgruntled people who sit there and come with this breakthrough discovery NNNN. wow. thanks for the info Hashela.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitric,

            “Who ever came up with garbage needs a life.”

            The PFDJite come up with it themselves.

            http://awate.com/open-letter-ambassador-haile-menkerios/

            P.S. MS didn’t attach that picture to his article. It was Awate editorial but they didn’t come up with the pictures or the names. It’s HGDF slogan. You are too slow:)

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            Volunteering to give you an answer: it was the short form of Nhna Nsu, Nsu Nhna. It was first coined by Saleh Younis.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            Who told you TPLF should involve in our internal affairs? This is baseless accusation. Supporting EPRDF is not supporting TPLF if that is what my accusations is. If you believe EPRDF means TPLF then that is the argument of PFDJ. And you know what the logic makes you. It is similar to your logic which says TPLF=EPRDF. You see Berhe it is not healthy to walk on that road.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aman,

            I am sorry if I put words in your mouth. I am not really, really not that interested or have a say in how Ethiopians deal with their affairs and I have no disagreement with you in who ever you support or you don’t support.

            I really do not know what you are getting at if we have the exact number or guess number. Eritreans who are opposing the regime are leaving in the the thousands, every month. I consider all of them are against the regime (the most majority), and I don’t think the number is any different that who remain inside the country that are not able to to leave.

            Anyway I don’t think it makes a difference if we have the numbers or not. Revolutions start with few individuals and the rest of the population catches up, when it’s ignited.
            That’s what the Sudanese did just recently…

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            If you believe EPRDF means TPLF then that is the argument of PFDJ

            Hi Aman-H; that is exactly true. you deny it to your heart content but there is no EPRDF with TPLF. In fact there is no EPRDF but TPLF. The fact is fact and don’t try to take cover behind PFDJ. If PFDJ said that then they are telling the truth. I don’t know but you are feeling well. You has suffered immensely when the midget passed away and know you are doing well your TPLF is contained in Mekele hotels. too bad! however please don’t try insult our intelligent by telling us EPRDF is not TPLF. That is an insult to the readers of this forum.

          • Hashela

            Thank you Berhe for your sane and common-sense comment.
            Contributions like yours are key to save this forum from being fully dominated by arsonists.

          • Nitricc

            Aren’t you forgetting to tell us how the TPLF fighters liberated Massawa? why are you leaving out that very telling piece of news. I don’t anger your handlers but for the recorded your toothless TPLF never operated tanks and any mechanized activity in its entire 17 years of struggle. The truth. Your TPLF can’t even free Shire and Shabia mechanized unite have to come and take all the way to Addis. Your dishonesty is mind boggling. But it is okay, your TPLF started producing missiles; they should be safe. have some integrity. Weather you like or not because weyane is not buried it doesn’t mean it is not dead. Now please tell us about the Massawa battle; how TPLF army was participated and including the mechanized one.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mehandsay,

            “ We are those people who want to claim Badme is ours while many villages, including the Village of the Nakfa Hero, በርሀ ጻዕዳ, is now given to Ethiopia. Because this makes Woyane mad. We won.“

            Again, you are spot on. Get out of Badume” is their slogans. And they don’t know how they should get out. Just get out, without the technical requirements in demarcating it. They are strange lots.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ፕሮፌሰር ኤማ!
            ህዝብና ተደራቢሽዎ ‘ዩ ዘሎ, ከምዝመስለኒ
            ሎሚ ኢሳያስ [ባድመ ኣይናትናን ‘ያ ተዝብል], ክንደይ ሰብ ኣብ ደቓይቕ ምተገማጠለት ኔራ። ዶብ ምሕንጻጽ ናትና ቀዳምነት ኣይኮነን ምስ በለ ክንደይ ድያ ግምጥል ዝበለት? ረሰዓት ‘ንደሞ ኴንና!
            ክንደይ ሰብ ድያ ሓንጎላ ኣብ ገዝኣ ኣቐሚጣ ትዛወር ዘላ? መስተንክር ‘ዩ ናትና ነገር።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም ማሃንድሳይ,

            ሓንቲ ከረጋግጸልካ ዝደሊ: እዘን ዓዲ ሓርበኛታት ዝኾና ዓድታት: ናብ ዋናታተን ዝኾነ ህዝብና ክምለሳ እየን:: ኣብ መጨረሻ እቲ ጉዳይ ብኸምዚ ክዕጾ’ዩ:: እተን ናትና ይምለሳና እተን ናቶም ይምለሳሎም:: ክሳዕ መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ በዚ ዝተሳማመዔ ኸአ ናይ ግዜ ጉዳይ ጥራይ እዩ:: ኢሳያስን ሰዓብቱን ከምዘለዎ ይተሓንጸጽ ክብሉ ኸለው ንፓለቲካዊ ሃልኪ ጥራይ እዩ::

          • Sultan M.G.

            Come on Sam.
            Read my last paragraph ..Do not expect me to say things am not supposed to say!
            I said ENOUGH And time to expedite the past due change we have been longing for a longtime !
            I just focused on the TPLF FACTOR since the Professors ignored that major factor.
            Granted, whatever I said about the role of the TPLF is but ACCURATE!
            Plus,Higdef and PIA were and have been the direct targets and victims of the TPLF.
            But the single solution to avoid any confusion and excuse i s for the TPLF to abide by the Intl Laws and Norms and by the Federal Govts decisions.
            That is the only reason I am selectively targeting the TPLF since PIA has been and is using it as a sole reason and excuse to say and to do whatever he wants to say and to do.
            Why is so difficult for your TPLF to do that?
            The moment the TPLF abides by those rules and norms,PIA has no more excuses or legitimacy ….to ..

          • Abi

            Hello Nefse
            Forget everything cousin. I’m glad you are back. This place is boring without you.
            There is nothing more enjoyable than watching you contradicting yourself in the same comment.
            ጏድ አቢ
            ኢሰፖ ማዕከላዊ ኮሚቴ

      • Sultan M.G.

        Selam Doctor:
        FYI:
        Bloomberg reported that the DP World took over Massawa and Aseb Ports to completely upgrade the ports besides allegedly building and renovating four major airports in Eritrea….( Asmera,Aseb,Massawa and in Gash Barca ).
        Hope that clarifies the confusing language of PIA, quite known for doing so.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mahmuday,

      Welcome back. Good to see you back. From years of our exchanges, how could I miss your languages and your styles (aside your positions). I smell it and surely identified you. Again good to see you back. I will talk to you in the weekend.

      • Abi

        Selam Ato Amanuel
        You are wrong.
        It seems like you don’t know Mahmud.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Ras Abi,

          ”M” stands for “Mahmuday” and “G“ stands for “the great”

          • Abi

            Ato Amanuel
            Wrong again
            Mahmud has never been called the Great. Only Haile was called the Great.
            Mahmud was called PM. Prime minister.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Abi,,

            The great was also the for him..Mahmuday too..

            KS..

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            I don’t remember that ever happened. If Ras Abi doesn’t know about it that means it never happened. ( just kidding)

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abo,

            That is accepted..Just normal for me ..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            In the immortal words of Kokobe I love you.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thank you Abi,

            Do you know what ? He wrote and article regarding 5G while you were out..and I was telling him to be interested about 5D which is the best..from that time I was posting the danger of 5G in Jebena page…You gave one very interesting on the same page and I am still writing..Are you interested? I know Mahmuday will give me more information after reading this one..

            KS,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Let us talk about it over coffee.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ras Abi,

            Check the comments of the forumers all on the side of his argument.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Nobody pays attention except yours truly.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear

      Welcome MS

      The style seems to me Mahmuday,,,Even the style of Hateta is the same of his style..

      KS..

      • Sultan M.G.

        Ahlen Bika Ya Ustaz Kokheb Selam/ Abdel……..
        GBU my own big bruh!
        Hope you are getting better and regaining that genius brain of yours,
        Glad to hear from you.

  • Paulos

    Selam Berhino,

    Remember this 😂? You see the afro dude with Kebero? That was me. And then was the beginning of vilification and suspicion toward Tigreans.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lkwa8IYDgvY

  • Nitricc

    Hidrat,
    There is a word for what you just aptly described. And the word is, “Confused.”

    The above quote from P to Aman-H; two soldiers of the toothless weyane. There was one adage I learned one this forum and it goes like this.. Woyo natas N-hamata
    expresses P confusion and madness. Sorry people TPLF is dead.

    • Paulos

      Nitrikay,

      Respect please!

    • Sultan M.G.

      Selam Nittric.
      For the most part, I think you make tons of sense.Am proud of you for boldly and courageously calling the spade, a spade,unlike our Engineers and Professors like Mehandisay,Hailat and Hashela at times( I see and smell his Kerenite style urge though )!

      You could do better if you follow Prof. Dr.Hashela’s noble advice.
      Just avoid those unpleasant adjectives!
      BTW,this is NOT the TN.Com,FYI!

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