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Eritrean-Ethiopian Border Crossing at Um-Hajar Closed

Reports from Eritrea indicated that the border crossing from the Eritrean town of Um-Hajar to the Ethiopian town of Humera has been closed. The road between the two towns run through a bridge over the Settit River which forms a natural border between Eritrea and Ethiopia.

Humera and Um-Hajar towns form two tips of an obtuse triangle whose third tip is the Sudanese border town of Wad Muzamil.

All roads and border crossings between Eritrea and Ethiopia were closed in the aftermath of the Ethiopian-Eritrean border war of 1998-2000. The Um-Hajar bridge was opened shortly after the Eritrean and Ethiopian governments agreed to normalize relations. However, it was closed again in less than a week.

According to reports that reached Gedab News, the road leading to the bridge is now blocked with rocks and thorny acacia bush branches.

There was no official announcement of the opening of the border crossing and no reason was given for its closure.

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  • Paulos

    Selam Alfaromeo,

    Sounds funny. Never heard of it. Probably popped up way after we left.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    The deafness of some defeated minions are saying the current peace with Ethiopia will fail badly and their reasons are as always the lies they told themselves for almost 27 years like Eritrea was the wrong party with the wars around . These people lie like there is no tomorrow and I still wonder if they know Eritreans. They have been making lies about Al shebab , Sudan thing in 1995 and the war with Ethiopia in 1998 . Amusing folks living from the bad deeds of PFDJ . They don’t even care about the poor souls of Eritreans who are living in Eritrea , they use people who are in prison to advance their personal well being . Just yesterday they were saying go to hell with Badme and now they are saying Badme woy mot. Hypocrites are known for their chameleon character but I never knew they lose sleep to make lies . Why they wish bad things to our people?

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Blink,

    I would like to bring up our discussion here so to save readers digging in to find it. I have linked your recent comment below so awatista can go back to look up the previous entries (I think awate university has this good practice recommendation to facilitate research:)

    http://awate.com/eritrean-ethiopian-border-crossing-um-hajar-closed/#comment-4027573853

    Now back to your counter paraphrased:

    1) What good is it to Eritreans

    2) What has it done to al Bashir anyway

    1) This CoI is not issued for Eritreans but to the regime of IA/PFDJ. So the question isn’t properly orientated. For Eritrean activists, it is a tool to rally around, to press for its natural next stage i.e. the matter to be referred to ICC, and an important milestone in the struggle for justice. As saay said too it most likely be the bases for future truth and reconciliation efforts.

    The most important implican is however, what it means to IA/PFDJ that you’ve managed to cleverly sidestep. Not so fast:) It means a serious allegations had been officially labelled against them. It means that as long as they are alive and out of power control, they will be held accountable. And short of clearing their name, all those included have that badge to wear forever. It is hard to to fight off something when the past is following you around everywhere. I think it is well deserved and sort of justice to their victims (even if it won’t make up their loses).

    2) Comparing this to the one against al Bashir, you missed one small point. The ICC doesn’t hold al Bashir personally responsible but indirectly criminally responsible. IA is held personally responsible as he was the only directly responsible in the chain of command such as in G-15’s case. So, your assertion that all the Darfur crimes were owned by al Bashir according to ICC is not accurate.

    Nevertheless, here is the latest on ICC for al Bashir

    The first warrant for arrest for Omar Hassan Ahmad Al Bashir was issued on 4 March 2009, the second on 12 July 2010. The suspect is still at large.

    Next steps: Until Omar Al Bashir is arrested and transferred to the seat of the Court in The Hague, the case will remain in the Pre-Trial stage. The ICC does not try individuals unless they are present in the courtroom.

    As you see, this things never go anywhere. They may be highlighted or hidden from daily news, yet the wheel never stops. Again, al Bashir, unlike IA had benefited from the shielding and good will of AU and many others. IA/PFDJ don’t really have any such general good will. Only those taking advantage of them would support them at any given time. Or big powers with wider geopolitical calculations.

    In conclusion, Eritrean activists can use this as a focal point of their work. It is credible, it carries the weight of the UN and is well targeted. The Eritrean people will be indirect beneficiaries by virtue of its ultimate ramifications. IA/PFDJ however has been caught at it and will never be able to alter it in any way.

    I know we may never come to the same conclusion on this, yet it was worth discussing it with you.

    HTG

    • Blink

      Dear Haile TG
      It wasn’t just like a drop of water that you hold “ Haile The Great”. You see I still don’t agree but admit to end this because of you. You are too good Haile TG

      I signed this by HTG.

  • Natom Habom

    ኢስራ ኣመት ከንቱ ብዘረባ ቲራህ ሃሊፉ
    ፣ይ ሰራህካዶ ዪቢላአ ፕርሲደንት ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ ኢናሰርሀ፣
    ሃገር ኢና ሃለወ ብዓል ጉግ ማንጉግ ከኣ ሃለውለው
    ጊዜ ሲራህ ዩ ሂጂ ግደፉና ቀደሙስ ብሃሶትን ብወስለትለትንዶ ሃገር መጺኣ
    ብሳርህ ብጀግንነት ፣ሙሽ ናይ ጸዐዱ ኢድ ኢናለመንካ ሃጉዙኒ ጥራህ ነኣኩም
    ከነገልግልኩም ኢና፣ንርብሃኩም ኪንሰርህ ኢና ኒሃገርካ ከኣ ኢና ተጻረፍካ ኢናቃሸሽካ
    ኢንጀራ ኣየብልዐካን፣ኣብዓ ደዓ ሰላምና ቲራህ ኣይቲዝረጉልና

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Natom Habom,

      Hellow, Mr. Ginbot7, how are you? Hellow again, Mr. Isaias agent. Ethiopia is still considered from the third or fourth world countries, it is better for you to assist the people of Ethiopia to come out of illiteracy, poverty, diseases, and lack of infrastructure. The tplf has made at least big changes in Ethiopian; they have left landmark touches in Ethiopia. They have Pulled the country from mires to the A, B, C of democracy, education and infrastructure which is a big job. At the same time they were not clean hundred percent. You have to preserve jobs attained and transform it to a more developed Ethiopia. I wish for Ethiopia to develop and become a civilized country. I would like to bring your attention that Isaias is a serpent; you have to take care from him million times. Secondly, I request you to take all those Ethiopians who were borne, brought up in Eritrea and are loyal to Ethiopia. You have to remember we are in the era of smart phones; you can’t cheat even a child.

      • Natom Habom

        selam hameed
        why call me ginbot7 ,why you guys bashing those people they were fighting for their right too like you of course you are fake ,you focus on other buisness they never bothered any eritrean opposition they only focus on their goal unlike you guys bashing them ,
        who is a the table now in Addis Abeba palace ??the brave kind of Ginbot7
        and where is the worthless the kind of hameed ?? been told to leave
        and eritrean born outside are loyal ? they where yes but they dump them like nothing ,you dont know what it feel ,no one ever again will be loyal to others and no one will harm the country that received many with open hand in that darkest moment ,home is home you should have tried with your friend tplf ,you would have see were loyalty lean the rest you said think about smart phone dont know what that had to do but any way have a nice day.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Natom Habom,

          It is amazing to lecture us those who taught them how to get rid of feudalism and tyranny. Yes, it is astonishing to dare those who tutor them about uprising, democracy, parties, free press, etc. to forget our lessons and assistance we have given them at the time of need. My friend, Eritrea new parties, uprising, demonstrations, democracy, parliament, free press, rights of speech, etc. in the forties of last century. The new found democracy that Dr. Abie Ahmed preaches you, Eritreans knew them before eighty years. I deem it is better to keep your lessons to those who don’t know how to oppose dictatorial regimes.

          Mr. Natom, in the seventies of last century Eritreans trained and armed TPLF. Now again your uprising in Qurra and other parts of Ethiopian was supported and funded by the money of Eritreans. Isaias was taking it from Eritreans to fund his brothers like Ginbot7 and Demhit. The Eritrean people have become like a candle that burns itself to give light to her southern neighbor, but their southern neighbor always conspire against them.

          Look, Mr. Natom, TPLF conspired against the people of Eritrea when they stood on the side of their cousin Isaias and attacked ELF. Secondly, they have duped Eritrean opposition. They have left them on hope no hope situation for almost two decades. They don’t want their cousin to be toppled by true Eritreans. Of course, this will make handing Isaias Eritrea to them will be very difficult or impossible. They have left Isaias in no war no peace condition until he hands over Eritrea to them. Isaias has kept his promise to his mama, but handed Eritrea to the opponents of TPLF; this group has played a very negative role against the people of Eritrea. They are not less than Haile Sellase, Mengistu and the Wanaw Ethiopiawi Isaias.

          Mr. Natom, inform PMAAA that Qurra and the rest uprising is funded by the Eritrean money. It is not a shame to help your neighbor, but it is a disgrace watching your neighbors are oppressed, humiliated and starved. The people of Eritrea have stood on your side when you were in need, thus you should compensate them when they are in need of help. If you fail to assist them, keep your hands away from rehabilitating the dictator and interfering in Eritrean issues. I kindly request you to make bridle to your greed.

          • Natom Habom

            selam hameed
            feudalism ,tyranny blablabla same lie ,just because semeone refuse you to preach extremism and spread division that make tyranny
            you speak the democracy given to you by US and BRITAIN in the 60 I think with the blue flag you use for the shows to your master in one of your parade ,they took it from you while your master were silent so to bring it back blood has been paid ,
            as querro and who ever of your claim your are still underestimating the oromo suffering under tplf they dont need for Eritrea to arise again the one who killed a son and tell a mother to seat on top a be silent they fight was real .
            as for Ethiopian opposition remember those group existed before even elf or eplf ,they are well organized group that work within ethiopia .
            Eritrea finance them ?? yes ,what wrong with that ,it s war my friend and it was fruithfull the other side do the some think with much western support ,for eplf treason to Eritrean that is a jock ,it say that weak elf was negotiating with the derg through the russian so eplf have to get rid of this hunchback dangerous game as you guys did again with tplf .
            the rest is in your rotten brain ,you can’t adjust your view to see the reality this is why you are looser and also about cousin well
            they are more yours , if you look your relation with them ,you defend them ,ask their advice its a charming family and is the root ,the feeling that once grand pa used to live in the same village before immigrating looking for job to the north .
            the rest I dont know have a nice day my friend

  • Blink

    Dear all
    I personally think I am awful when it comes to insult the religious people and also the Habeshas but since mine is not an article it can not be seen as a green light by this site in addition there are awful people who insult Eritreans in general too. But for now let’s look at people like Ali salim and Semere Tesfai . Many people still truly believe Ali salim is Saleh Gadi jouhar and I wonder what it will take for these people to say sorry to Saleh .
    What Ali salim did was awful and still a liability to this website but since we are trying to expand free speech to Eritrea we shall not be playing the race card to kill free speech .Just to say little about Ali salim , he openly said the Orthodox believers go to church to mingle while the Muslims go to mosque to pray and if that kind of insult is not a disgrace, I don’t know what kind of insults you guys have in mind .

    Second Semere Tesfai never ever insulted the Muslims and any one who check can bring his prove because I for once was among the people who opposed Ali salim assertions that’s why I have his words with me . I have every single word of Ali salim that can be seen insensitive or an insult from my perspective and I hope others are doing like me because sometimes we never know what happens with the internet world . The notion Semere Tesfai was defending the Tigrinya is very very shallow and it can be said being complicit to the attack by Ali salim of the Tigrinya specially the Orthodox people , the two can’t be compared and can’t be judged on the same characteristics. Ali salim the beja state guy can’t be compared to Semere Tesfai but to Tesfatsion the agazian guy . Let’s be honest about this game.

    • David Samson

      Selam Blink,

      I quite often disagree with your views.

      However, credit is given when it is due with this comment. You struck a very well balanced and sound tone.

      • Paulos

        David Samson,

        Really? This is Pulp Fiction at its best. And it is precisely the reason the Forum loses its luster. As they say, small men talk personalities and mediocre men talk ideas and the rare great men talk principles. It is because of the latter the rest of us get gravitated to read what they have to say. Let’s keep the Forum clean!

        • David Samson

          Selam Paulos,

          I think you lost me!
          I have also read both gents’ articles. I seem to agree with Blink’s view. Ali’s views are not sugar coated, they are written in black and white for all to see. That is all.

      • Blink

        Dear David
        Oh , how do I miss this ? The reason you find my points agreeable is may be you are free man independent of shallow views to ethnic and religious thing as I am .

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat blink,

      First and for most, you are not awful! You are one of the few nicest people I have come to know. It is my gift to know these things. It will be difficult to punch you once in a while after saying this, but this is coming from the deepest part of my heart. You must believe this about your self because it is true. Your politicking in the other hand, well, it is better we talk about it in Barentu someday.

      • Blink

        Dear Fanti
        Remember you have one wish to do , about the tour to Eritrea . I forget the starting point but it goes way up to Eritrean highlands of Sahel ….using traditional way . Now I couldn’t remember from point A to … point… B but my memory is telling me that you say something like that . My grandpa has camel and I am 🤔 .. what do you say ?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selsamat blink,

          That walking adventure is going to be from Moyale to Karora. Those who take a camel, horse, mule, or a donkey ride for more than 5 kilo meters will lose their chance of getting a trophy. Those who take a motorized help will be left out at the nearest town with lots of shaming scream.

          There will be 4 major award worthy stops, five potential trophy awards, and other recognition certificates which will be explained when the time comes. So far, Amde is the only one who have signed up. Would you like to sign up?

          PS:
          There are 4 of us so far, but our aim is 100+. We have not advertised it yet because it is a long time from now.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Fanti,

            I would like to sign up. It would be an experience of a life time.

            Berhe

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat BerheWay,

            Wonderful. It is already looking good. I promise it will be even more enticing once we discus purpose, plan, and schedule. Welcome Aboard!

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            Do you think we can actually talk real thing on the road to Qarura ? I am just imagining things with you guys . It would be fun to see.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Blink,

            Fanti said it will be a long time from now, so I was thinking it will give time to build my fitness level (I was thinking from walking point of view).

            But if you are coming, I think I need to practice MMA because you never know with you, after having a couple of swa:).

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Berhino,

            That’s so funny. The guy could as well be ቃጤ ዒባ as in Spaghetti legs and arms who can’t even smash ኮሚደረ። But if he turns out to be puffed up and stocky, you can tag Abinism with you for he is Black Belt in Karate.

            P.S. Do you remember Beyene Karatista?

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulo,

            I didn’t know him in person but I have heard of him. NsKa wedi Kerema Eka, ends eima? I remember going out on a walk and window shopping (vetrina enda reAna Kolel kinbil).

            Is he wedi gezabanda, and did he lose his one eye?

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            Yea that’s him from Gezamanda. He lost an eye in a nasty brawl at Patamata, the underground party hall.

            The Latteria is probably Bar Diana which is pretty close to Ambassador Hotel. The “dwarf” guy who is pretty much the face of that area is “ብላዕ-ኢልዎ” sort of a hustler but fun guy.

            Back in the days as in on Sundays, Roha Band played live music at Ambassador and the most visible of them all was Tamru who played Bass Guitar. You should see him now, gotten really old and you wouldn’t recognize him.

          • AMAN

            Greetings
            @paulos
            Aha
            The Asmara of those days!
            I used to sneak in inside the city once in a while those days but Asmarinos and Asmarino youth were completely neutralized and even separated or isolated
            from the Ghedli and the PLF
            in an almost completely disappointing degree.
            The Derg was almost entirely successful in neutralizing and pacifing Asmara and its youth
            and even getting them on its side isolated from the Ghedli.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I know he lived in Udaga Arbi and he use to hang out, ab edga Haraj during the weekdays and Ambassador during the weekend:).

            I never made it to the club scene in Asmara, either I was ፋራ or too young or the curfew in my house was very strict, I never made it past watching soccer in the evening occasionally. The ambassador thing was in Sunday afternoon, which was within our time limit:).

            I hope I don’t disappoint you but I hated those deqi gezabanda, who use to terrorize and beat up defenseless people. I actually think, it’s the most useless over rated neighborhood in all Asmara. They are not good at anything, no famous school, no famous sport club (soccer) or no famous (cyclist). May be the best they got was, I think Fitsum Ghilom and may be with exception of one footballer (his girl friend was use to scream when he us to play in the stadium – out of the total two girls in attendance:) I think he played for Adulis.

            Honestly those hailat and the gangs (deki mai temenai, deqi kagnew, deqi geza banda) are just bunch of losers I think, at least the majority of them..none of them did it professionally as in becoming a boxer but beat up on defenseless people.

            One thing that I credit EPLF was, they put to rest all that gang stuff….I heard they took them all to sawa as the first rounds..

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            The gang divide was partly nature and partly political strategy. Nature in the sense that the dam hormones as in testosterone was shooting up for it is insane to be young. Politics in the sense that Dergue charted out particularly Dawit Weldegergis a strategy to distract the youth from engaging into Ghedli fervor where it also let loose religious practices as in Christian charismatic movements.

            Curious enough, the gang war if you will as you put it was divided between Gezabanda [Samuel ቅጫ among others], Deqi Qagnew, Maitemenai and Deqi Bar-Jimma. And they were all nasty mean and cruel as hell.

            It all started to impress the gals particularly Deqi Qagnew who were children of high ranking Dergue soldiers started to hit on the pretty gals mainly who attended Barka [Comboni] and Deqi Bar-Jimma as in Y’Hayish Hagos and Mengis a.k.a Carter took it as a violation of Eritrean girls and the tension turned into an ethnic thing. Later on, it got turned into a turf war if you will. I remember one day, my buddy, I won’t say his name who lives now in Toronto knocked down four Deqi Qagnew single handedly and later on started fearing him like crazy. That dude is tough as they come. Good times!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            You are fino asmarino…you know every thing and you knew every one.

            I think I know who the guy from TO:). May be the reason who lost his front teeth:).

            Berhe

          • Peace!

            Hi Birhino,

            You are giving Paulosay an easy pass to Asmarino status: he needs to show us ሽጋራ ሲሒቡ ከይ ሰዓለ ብኣፍንጭኡ ትኪ ዘውጽእ ብኣፉ ድማ O ቅርጺ ኣብ ርእሲ ርእሲ… ቀዳማይ መለክዒ እዩ.

            Peace!

          • David Samson

            Selam Peace,
            Which Cigarette? Ideal, Nyala, Rothmans or Winston.

          • Peace!

            Hi David,

            Haha…It depends, but most likely Ideal or Nyala. Rothman, Winston, More was for elites like Capri….

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Peace,

            For some reason I thought you were amicie. I don’t know why..

            Ok let me call it, Haraif Asmarino list at AT is getting longer.

            Berhe

          • Peace!

            Hi Berhino,

            Arada and Asmarino 🙂 Habtegergis Deldey (somali Tera, Aliance School) in Addis, & born and raised in Akria – Mai Chehot.

            Peace!

          • David Samson

            Selam Peace,
            You were Asmarino when you lived in Akria, but turned in to Fara when you joined SAAY, in Mai Chehot.

          • Peace!

            David,

            Haha….No. Actually I was close to Augo, Langano, Lateria Mai Temket, cinema Dante, Bowling, Da Chernae lol

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Peace,

            I never considered my self asmarino, as I have missed out a lot of the asmarino stuff one is suppose to do. I think my definition of asmarino is someone who know the city intimately and he immersed in the city life style, including the exaggerations of everything.

            Years ago saay had written an starical article, which by the way, my friend iSem have memorized every word, as he does with many.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,
            SAAY can’t be “Real Asmarino” because he is not from Keftegna 7-9.

          • Paulos

            Berhino,

            እሞ ኣብ እንዳ ሮማ ኣይፈተንካን ማለት’ዩ:: መብዛሕታ ኣዝማሪኖ ኣብ እንዳ ሮማ እያ ኣፍሪሳ 😂፣ Hope I will be excused for saying that.

          • Berhe Y

            Paulosay,

            No comment:).

            Berhe

          • Selam Paul,
            I am guffawing at your conversations. En passant, Beyene Karatista was still a legend when we, the post independence youngis, were growing up. In fact, he is wedi gezawtey.

            Where was እንዳ ሮማ? 😂

            best,
            Sam

          • Paulos

            Sammy,

            I don’t want be bad influence in case if you go back. Right around the Palm trees North of Pocefilla.

          • Paul,
            Bad influence is welcome. You see, we the book warms . only know the library in the Junior Club. But you, the smart and dashing Asmarino, knows other hidden pleasures. ሓሊፉና!!

          • Paulos

            Sammy,

            Trust me, you didn’t miss much. I wish I had known more when I was your age as much as you know much. Loved and enjoyed schooling and all but kept uprooting the pillars instead of building on them. And the times we came of age were pretty messed up to the extent of seeing the world through nihilism till we saw hope in the birth of the new nation but again…..

          • David Samson

            Selam Samuel,
            I can give direction to Roma’s house provided that you are up for a shag.

          • saay7

            Peace!

            Funny! Back when I used to like the guy (IA), he had a long interview with Hwyet magazine about his childhood (he disclosed nothing but there was an iconic pic of him and his fam on the cover of the magazine) where he ridiculed this whole idea that to be an Asmarino is to know the names of all the bars and clubs. Agree with him on that. And it inspired me to write an article called “Yosief and Yosuf” (published at Asmarino in 2000) where I listed all the traits that make an Asmarino an Asmarino:) And, no, it wasn’t flattering, but said lovingly. I was going to say I will publish this weekend on my blog but it will be re-prioritized and bumped so why promise 🙂

            saay

          • Peace!

            Hi Saay,

            I haven’t read it, can’t wait 🙂

            Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            That’s funny. I actually tried that for fun but couldn’t stick the “O” onto the hanging light bulb. I am sure you would have won in it if it was an Olympic event.

          • Peace!

            Paulosay,

            Haha…I tried few times, but it was hard to try Ideal and keep it a secret.

            Peace!

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,
            IMO, I think it is unfair to lump all the gangs in to one. Except for deqi kagnew, all the rest were feast fighting gangsters. It was just an expression of adolescence. Abi, the son of a major, was a nasty individuals who used his dad’s position to abuse anyone who got under his way. He used to carry a barbed wire with him. I know many faces and bodies were deformed by his actions. He was above the law. There were lots of resentments towards him and many people were expressing of revenge at the time. Abi lived freely in Italy, despite all the bravado by us.

            My favourite personality of that era was “Wedi Refo”: the finest of all Deki Shuk.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            I remember that guy who came to our high school once with his gangs. He was such a ሉሕኩስ guy, if it was not for his body guard.

            You are right it’s not fair. I was just pocking fun of the deqi gezabanda, I tell them to their faces..and they don’t have a come back..

            I have heard of “Wedi Refo” and if you ask deqi abashawel, I think they tell you “Aya ydo”.

            The guy I knew but I never liked him was “Finas”. He was involved in house to house search during “biherawi witdrna” and when I went to Eritrea, they told me he was involved in the same search of “hagerawi agelgulot”

            I hope you and Paulos will join on Fanti great adventure.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Berhino,

            Yea I remember him. He was skinny and small hidding in his father’s stars. Would love to join but I am afraid Fantination will turn us into tree-hugging Monks.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Dr. Paulos,

            You are killing me! What a pleasure you must be in real life. Our top scientist is also our top Asmarino; what a contradiction.

            In appreciation of your unparalleled intellect with equal measure about the universe and about shuga-shugi, I promise to look the other way for the next 90 days!

          • Haile S.

            ኣንታ Fanti,
            ዘረባ ዶ ከይዱካ? Contradiction? እህም fino asmarino ሳይንቲስት ኣይከውንን እዩ ዝበለካ መን’ዩ?
            ጳውሎስ ፈተሪኖ ኣውቶቡስ እንዳ ሓረጎት ስለዝነበረ ንኹሉ ይፈልጥ:-) 🙂 🙂 ።

          • David Samson

            Selam Haile,

            Both Kasahun Chokole(Owner of Red Sea press) and Captain Asres
            had spent their childhood in EdagaArbi.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            You should see me laughing. The most famous ፎተሪኖ in Asmara was ፍዮሪ. His complexion and facial feature was not a “typical” Habesha. If you had left Asmara in mid 70s, you probably don’t know him but I am sure he knew almost everyone for people who drove cars in those days were scant.

          • Haile S.

            Paul,
            ካብ በክካዮስ፡ በል ኣብ ንድፊ (draft) ድኣ ተሪፉ እምበር፡ እዚ ጳውሊስ ዝበሃል ፍዮሪ ድኣ ካይከው ኢለ ጽሒፈ ነይረ።

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            You knew of him then?

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos
            Despite all the swearing and insults thrown at him by passengers, Fiori was a good tempered person with good sense of humour.

          • Haile S.

            Hey Paul,
            Never paid attention when I was in Asmara. I knew him more in the early 80s through friends who followed me to the university. When we huddle together they never stopped talking of fiori said this and that, especially the girls.

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            I guess one has to brave a full article with the heading, “The End Of Urban Legends” or “The Last Of The Urban Legends.”

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,
            Fiyori ayni M****

          • Paulos

            David,

            ኣታ ሰብኣይ! 😂😂😂

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Hailat,

            I had prepared a clever reply earlier expecting Saay to up vote you, but I am having this eerie feeling about him waiting for me to sink a little deeper before he does, so I give up.

            What I meant was that to be a successful Asmarino one has to keep up with all the hottest spots, hottest fashions, hottest new arrivals, and what have you and that is more than a full time job.

            Studying is just for those who bring their lunch to school*. However, once in a bluest of blue moons, that special one is born with photographic memory and voila; we get our Paulos!

            * After that “ዕንሹ” thing, you have been my number one suspect.

          • saay7

            His Fantiness and all:

            …Tesfai and Sherif were dressed impeccably and they had that self-satisfied look that Asmarinos are famous for.

            When they meet you, they inspect you head-to-toe, taking mental notes to compare with some Asmarino ideal which, of course, you won’t measure up to because the ideal changes daily. Asmarinos know this, which is why they constantly laugh behind the back of every non-Asmarino.

            The cab driver didn’t feel comfortable at Bar Vittorio because he was not an Asmarino. He was sure that he was not one because (1)the average Asmarino knows about two hundred synonyms to the insult “Gerfaf” and the cab driver thought Gerfaf was a bus stop; (2)In talking with his male friends, he had never addressed them using female-gender-specific words; and (3) he had never said “Ketituni” or any of its derivatives, “ketitatni, ketiteya”

            Asmarinos spoke a strange hybrid of Tigrigna with a sprinkling of Arabic, English, Amharic, and Italian. When they want to say, “hi”, they may say “Alora” (Italian), “tadias” (Amharic) or “keif” (Arabic.) The cabbie had never developed that Tres Cool Attitude that Asmarinos are known for. The Tres Cool Attitude is an adamant refusal to be impressed by anything no matter how extraordinary and it is the zealous refusal to be humbled by anything no matter how holy or grave. As far as Asmarinos are concerned, nothing interesting goes on outside Asmara City Limits. That’s why the two most common Asmarino phrases which summarize the Tres Cool Attitude are “k’la gidefena bejaka, Y’akhi” (Oh, leave us alone, brother) and “nKali’ki belyo izi shiTara” (I am too smart for your wit.)

            But everyone needs a change of air so Tesfai and Sherif dragged themselves out of the bar,kicking and screaming, indignant that their leisurely Eritrea Profile reading was interrupted. “Oh, don’t worry about it,” the cabbie assured them, “Thanks to the magic of one party state, the paper is available on the radio under a different name: DimSi Hafash. And since we are going for a 30 kilometer drive, you will “read” about five pages.”

            ”But we have to come back by noon because, QuoSera alena.” they said.

            Ofcourse, thought the cabbie. Asmarinos always have quoSera, an appointment. Even if the quoSera is just to make another quoSera, by god, they have quoSera. With that, he took them for a short drive to the outskirts of Asmara, to a nameless Inda Shahi (Tea Room,)where the clientele are older, rural, illiterate andvisibly malnourished. Waiting for them there were Aboy Yusuf and Aboy Yosief, two men in their late sixties. Tesfai and Sherif joined them after instructing the cabbie to come back in about thirty minutes. Tesfai presented the letter to Aboy Yosief along with a brief update on American life…..

            excerpt from “Asmarinos & Democracy”, October 7,2000

            saay

          • Haile S.

            Selam Fanti,
            ኣንታ ፋንቲ፡ ኣብ መንቀራቅሮ እንዲኻ ኣእቲኻኒ ድኣ። ካብ እዞም ኮሚሳርያቶ ሓማሴን (እንዳ በዓል ሮማ በዚ ስም እዩ ዝፍለጥ) ዝውዕሉ ዝነበሩስ፡ ተሰካሚ ስልጣንያ ትሕሸኒ።:-) 🙂 🙂

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            Ha ha, ተገጢምካ ኣለኻ እንዳ ሮማ ተሓቢእካ ኣቲኻያ ኣለኻ ማለት’ዩ፣ ባር ዘምባባ if we have to zoom-in that is.

            Heaven knows if she is still alive and hope she is where Gabriel Garcia Marquez’s “Memories Of My Melancholy Whores” great novel comes to mind.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,
            ካብ ቀሺ ኤፍሬም እኮ ገዲድካኒ! እምቢ ኣይናዘዝን፡ ኣይሓጥእን። ቀደም ብቛሉዕትና ብጊዜ በዓል ዘገንፎ፡ ኣብ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ፡ ብለማናይ ዝፍለጥ፡ ግና ኩሉ ሰብ ናይ ሃይለስላሴ ሕቡእ ሰላዪ (CID) ገይሩ ዝወስዶ ቀሺ ነበረ። ኣብ ነፍሲ ወከፍ ካንሸሎ ሓደ መዓልቲ ኣብ ሰሙን ይኹን ኣብ ክልተ ሰሙን ቅልቅል ይብል ነበረ። ሓደ ሓደ ጊዜ ከኣ ህልም ኢሉ ይጠፍእ። ምሕዳሩ ኣይፍለጥን ነበረ፡ እንዳስላሴ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ ኣይኮነ እንዳ ኣምናተኽለ ሓዝሓዝ ኣይኮነ። ስለ’እዚ ውን ይኸውን ሰብ ሰላዪ ገይሩ ዝወስዶ ዝነበረ። ካብ መርዓ፡ ሓዘን፡ ተዝካር፡ ዝክር እውን ኣይጠፍእን ነበረ። መለሊኽ ስውኡ ዓትዒቱ እናጨለጠ፡ ዘረብኡ ምጽኣት ቀሪባ ተናስሑ እያ ነይራ። እምበኣርከስ ጳውሎስ፡ ምጽኣት ምስመጸት ነርክበሉ። ንዓኣ ክንጽበ፡ ብዝገበርናዮን ዘይገበርናዮን ክንናሳሕ፡ ክንሓጥእ ሞኽ ኢልና። እዛ ምጽኣት Godot ኮይናትና።

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            We used to call those kind of Qeshis, ቀሺ ሓጥያት! Interesting story, thanks for sharing. I agree, waiting for Godot but hope that day won’t be ኣነን ንስኻነ ስዋ እንዳ ጨረምና for it will be a spoiler to a swell time.

          • Paulos

            Selam Fantination,

            Wonder if school is or to excel in it is for the un-cool where the stigma is stuck with those who sport thick prescription glasses as in the TV character Steve Urkle.

            Years ago, there was a debate where most Eritreans with a Ph.D particularly those who live in North America seem to have hailed from rural Eritrea and the distribution of ፊኖ ኣዝማሪኖስ seem to be scant in advanced degrees. The consensus was to the very least, the disparity is attributed to a lack of discipline and the vagaries of big cities and all the distractions that come with it. Asmarinos by and large lost the knack for further schooling in their prime time where the fundamentals matter the most.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Fanti,

            People who were born and bred in Harar and Dire Dawa do not consider those from Addis Ababa [Arada] and Asmara [who call themselves Asmarino] as COOL, but as Fara [no offence but it was true].

            These two cities, Addis and Asmara, lacked the unique blend of culture that contributed to being open, friendly, helpful, kind, creative in music and skilled in football and the absence of gang culture.

            During the late 60s and early 70s, before the evil Derg arrived, the Harari and Dire Dawans played like Brazilians with short passes and magical dribbling skills.

            Kids played for fun and for a laugh without being uptight. If you want to see the quintessential footballer of these cities during that period, I invite you to search the internet and look at clips showing the build up to 4th Brazillian goal against Italy in the Final of the 1970 World Cup. Look at, specifically, Clodoaldo receiving the ball from Gerson, then dribbling past 4 Italian players and passing the ball to Rivelino, then the ball goes to Jairzinho and then to Pele and finally to Carlos Alberto to score the greatest goal ever.

          • Paulos

            Selam Fantination,

            Many thanks for those kind words. Glad you like it. I am up for the long trek and in between we will hit it off with anything and everything. God bless!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Dr. Paulos,

            Make that 180 days! I see Amde smiling ear to ear.

          • David Samson

            Meles was the Boss —until he was toppled by “Aya ydo”—who was a humble, body-builder and down-to- earth person; he was from gezabandaHabesha. “Wedi Refo” spoke fluent Tigrigna (real unspoiled one), though he was born in Asmara. He was in to drinking Swa, fun and jokes. Although, he was not interested in brawl, he can knock down anyone, including “Aya ydo” with Testa. Since he was skinny and friendly, many people assumed he was a simple pushover, but he was the de facto champion of Testa.

            My adventure would be to join the lads in “Shawley Meley” and have a couple of swas, crack jokes and listen to Tsegay Beraki songs.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            Ok will join you when we are done with the trecking. Listening to Tsegay Beraki sounds good. I don’t know if it was true or not, but someone showed me who his girl friend was when he was singing those songs and told me “all his songs was for her”. She was really beautiful and I would not be surprised. Very good talented guy life cut short too soon.

            I remember Wedi Refo, was good looking guy, nice afro and cool looking sun glasses.

            If it wasn’t for Eritrea, he would probably a good actor.

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,
            Mixing Mhuran and Sipping Swa do not get on well in Shawel. When I join the locals at EndaBetebet or Endabusu, I do not want to be seen that I am from SgriBahri. You got be appear as authentic as locals.
            .

          • Paulos

            David,

            Man, Endabetebet was one of the classy Enda Swa there was in Asmara. Junior club or Pocefilla right behind it, it was kinda a spoiler for kids who were meant to grow up in a “decent” neighborhood.

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,
            The original Endabetebet was in KidaneMhret( Opposite of Jalia Arabic school) where Gonay was the main actor. The Pocefilla thingy was for spoiled-brat middle class boys, not the hardcore Asmarinos.

          • Paulos

            David,

            Didn’t know that. Good to know.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            Gonay, oh man. Wasn’t he had enda sarto ab edaga Haraj?

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Oh Paulos,
            Enda betebet? How about enda kelbi? or, enda Buzi? I am surprised you belong to that generation!

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            That’s funny. They can be bragging points if knowing them gives one a badge to flash as in Asmarino badge. The bragging point however has a statue of limitation where one cares less when the city is turned into a ghost town–a movie set where the theme of the script is apocalyptic.

            That said, growing up in those areas where the exotic Madames of forbidden places reign, one becomes privy of gossips among other things and the dividing line between adults and kids becomes blurred. I belonged to the latter.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            That is the thing: there are signs of that distinguish “ASMARINOS,” from “asmarinos”. Reading your comments proved to me you and a few others belong to the former. Of course, I feel I can claim to be one with a double caps if there is such a thing. 🙂

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            In a deeper level, there is something where Asmarinos is seen with in historical context that has stuck with me to this day. It was illustrated by one my fav Opposition figures as in Hiruy T. Bairu.

            He said, when Eritreans who had been enlisted with in the Italian army came back from Libya, those who belonged to certain villages, went back to their respective villages but those who didn’t belong to any village, settled back in Asmara. Essentially, they were the first major settlers in Asmara. One can make the argument that, the label Asmarinos was pejorative because they were not Eritreans.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            Indeed, only Herui would come with such insights,. I have so many nuggets I got from him but my favorite is this: “politics is neither clean nor dirty, those who handle it make it one of the two”.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ሳልሕ፡
            እዚ ጳውሎስ እኳ ካየፍረ…. እዩ ጀሚሩ! ሎምስ ከማኻ ካብ ምድርጓሕ ክቁጠብ፡ ሳልሕ።

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Paul and Berhe,
            ‘Patamata’! Was this in Asmara?was it post the red star campaign (የ ቀይ ኮከብ ዘመቻ)?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Haile S.

            I actually do not know. I don’t know any of the bar / club scene in Asmara, other than the usual places in godena Harnet and surrounding with occasional visit to caravel.

            But the incident Paulo said happened after the key shiber…I would say around 86 or 87.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Thank you, Berhe,
            I am not in the top Asmara insiders, but know it well. I left Asmara in 1979 to Addis and I don’t know the new developments thereafter. Night clubs were functioning till what we call the ቶግ ቶግ period. Like you as an under-age I remember with friends going and staying on the outside of Copa cubana (near ቃኘው) to hear the music.
            Best

          • Desbele

            Selam Berhe,
            It is Super Lateria/Lateria Super

          • Desbele

            Hi Paulos,
            Beyene Karatista was a member of the military Division I was in . He wear an eye patch at the time. I dont know whether from previous accident or from a war time injury. His got a slender physique that looks very flexible.
            I grow up in Addis. But Asmarinos talk about him as a legend.

          • Paulos

            Desbele,

            Yea he is an urban legend. In fact, the whole family are legends. Perhaps, if we had a cast system as in India, would have been warriors.

          • David Samson

            Selam Desbele,
            Beyene Karatista was ex-ELF fighter. I think he now lives in Sweden.

          • Desbele

            Hi David
            Thanks for the correction. I was introduced to a Beyene Karatista afar. Probably wrong info.

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            I call myself one of the fittest but This tour will be the tour of forgiveness, learning and after all fun . Only one problem, Amde will insist on language of communication the good thing for me though I will be a n great advantage once we go to Sahel and most part of Barka . Berhe I am not heavy drinker so you just have to be ready to walk all the way while carrying your belongings.

          • Blink

            Dear Fanti
            I would sign if Amde is in the team but what if Nitricc join the group?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat blink,

            haha. Nitricc is a must! We will do everything we can to be flexible to his schedule, but if he refuses to join for other reasons it won’t be as exciting as I believe it will be. We will shame him to join once there are many of us. Help me with that.

  • Peace!

    Paulosay,

    Are you saying economic liberalization will lead to political reform?

    Peace!

    • Paulos

      Good Morning Abi Seb,

      I would assume it does. Here is what the experts tell us what usually happens given unforeseen contingents are made less effective.

      War and ramifications of war help creat a State; the need to protect Private Property helps to creat Rule of Law; Rule of Law gives birth to Accountability and Transparency lest the State becomes overly ambitious and strong to the extent of chocking the citizens up if you will. These are certainly the main intellectual foundations of Political Institutions solely based on the relatively common historical threads of the West.

      One can make a valid argument that, it can not be a cookie-cutter or one-fits-all to prescribe or define the formation of Political Institutions in every nation for every nation has its own unique history including cultural and traditional norms. That said, given Eritrea’s rather unique history, it may be valid to have a strong centralized State where Transparency and Accountability are weak in comparison but would have to have an effective Rule of Law if private property and by extension the economy is to be vibrant and flourish as well. Again, China is a case in point.

      • Peace!

        Paulosay,

        Thank you, sir. That makes total sense. On a separate note, is it true Debretsion have submitted resignation letter to Dr. Abiy?

        Peace!

        • Paulos

          Selam Abi Seb,

          Glad it made sense to you. Not sure if he did but he would have notified the Tigrean people first if he did or if he had plans. It is a serious political crisis. Perhaps it was a coded message what Isaias said to Abiy when he transferred all the power to him when the reality is in fact the reverse.

          • Peace!

            Paulosay,

            Again thank you. I thought I could say a bit more, but already exhausted to go to work. Well, things are changing so fast, let’s just hope for the better.

            Peace!

  • Ismail AA

    Selam fellow Awatistas,
    Yesterday I posted by way of seeking verification a piece of news I got through a share link in one of the social media outlets. As you might recall it concerned a rumour posted by Hayat earlier on the day. But now I am alerted that the news I got was pure speculation. I should have been more cautious before posting my inquiry. I express regret for that; sorry

  • Paulos

    Selam Now Inc,

    I really don’t know. The Ethiopians wouldn’t throw that kind of money to rehabilitate the roads if there was no some sort of guarantee that the peace accord will hold. I would assume, Isaias will have to make some kind of reform including reviving the Constitution and perhaps will try to work with Eritreans of moderate political persuasions.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Paulos,

      These is very good point and I am glad you put your focus on what’s the facts on the ground and adjust out thinking and planning by putting into consideration.

      If you have not watched the ebstv reports from Asmara, I urge you to watch it. The first segment she interview with the CEO of Ethiopian airlines and he discuss in details the plan they have. The Eritrean Diaspora is a huge potential not only now, but I had no idea even before, as far back as 1998. Everything is working out to be a huge plus for the Ethiopian airlines, the ERitrean airlines, the Eritrean people. Just imagine, may be there is one flight to or out of Asmara and they either land at 1 AM or fly out at 5 AM in the morning. The rest of the day, people spend all day qenfezew kiblu, and not only that, to get to their destination, they would lose at least 24 those in Europe or 48 hours those in North America. And these costs them upto 40 % percent more (400 US). For a family of four, not a small change and convienience.

      Question: Do we think the Eritrean people, those in Middle East, Europe, North America will not travel to Eritrea because what IA said? Some may be, but the vast majority will not. Those people have a priority, like all other people, and the well being of their children comes first above all other things. Taking their kids to visit their family back home, spending summer with their people and culture, the freedom their experience, the weather, the love and joy, is a very attractive motivation to look the other way.

      On top of that, as you said, once the boarder opens, food, prices will drop and that makes even more economically attractive to travel.

      These is only looking at the airlines, but we haven’t looked into the other benefits, such as job creation etc. With the flow of tourists, including, many Ethiopians, there will not be enough accommodation to host them. This will kick start the construction, the hoteling, the service industry (such as restaurants, entertainment) will flourish.

      And without exaggeration, there isn’t a place like Eritrea anywhere.

      Absolutely by far the (on top of the weather, the beauty of the city and the places) the nicest and welcoming people. Every person we saw in the video is the exact replica of everyone in the country. In the second video the Afar guy really cracked me up. Qes neqes enqulal begru yihedal. It’s probably the best joke and the real potential behind what he said (granted he was talking about his single engine boat but I think it represents everything). By the way, I think what she covers is probably less 15% (in Asmara and massawa).

      I saw on someone FB (Ghidewon Musa Aaro – visafric), I think he is official government photographer or something but he has been position a lot of pictures. A couple of days ago, he posted train engines (I think 4) headed to Eritrea.

      Is this going to sustain or will this erupt? We have not covered anything so far, like the use of ports, etc but the potential is endless. I think unless the exchange rate adjusted and some how become at par or the Eritrean currency is cheaper than Ethiopian, it could a source of a problem. So who is going to make the adjustment, Eritrea or Ethiopia? So far Ethiopia seems to make the adjustment, not particularly because of Eritrea but because of the foreign currency shortage and lots of outstanding currency on the hands of many people. I hope they will NOT learn by what happened in Eritrea and rob people’s money. But who knows…

      I think this too long for now…,may be add more in the next few days and see other aspects of the change

      Berhe

      • Paulos

        Selam Berhino,

        You really are a good person. You always see the positive side of events and I appreciate that.

        As you have aptly put it, a party of four flies to Asmara and the Taxi guy picks them up from the airport and takes them to the hotel guy. They go out to dine in the lady’s restaurant. If there is a multiplier effect on the party of four as in if say, thirty of them fly to Asmara in a day, the Taxi guy will be Taxi guys and the hotel guy will be hotel guys. And the chain of event will create more jobs, more jobs will give rise to increase in wages, increase in wages will incentivise people to spend more money and that drives demand of goods and there will be an increase of allocation of resources in a larger scale. When this is the calculus of a roughly sketched economics, we can’t help it but ask about the political dimension as well.

        First of, if the above tersly cited scenario is to hold, there ought to be political stability and for that to happen, I say, as painful as it may sound, we need to help Isaias.

        Perhaps, we have to play Abiy on Isaias as opposed to rubbing him on the wrong side to the extent of dropping the rhetoric, “Isaias has to be removed by all means necessary.” Instead, we have to find a way to work with him by encouraging him to lead the way of reform. It certainly is not easy but nothing comes without a strong political will and courage. I can’t believe I am saying this but I personally don’t see any other way or choice.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Paulos,

          I don’t know if we need to go that far, as we know what his answer is going to be.

          Like the economic development will present it self a lot of pressure to the way the government does it’s business and sooner or later it needs to open up.

          However, I think, it would be foolish not to take the opportunity and use the good office of the PM to push our agenda through. I really think, asking directly the PM while he was touring the US would have been a very good opportunity.

          For example, I read a news that the Ethiopian government and OLF were in Asmara signing reconciliation agreement. There were Lemma Mergesa, FM Workneh. Now if Ethiopia is going all over and making peace with all the opposition leaders, why the Eritrean government can’t do the same. And who is the best person to push, persuade IA and PFDJ to do the same.

          The other day, someone mentioned that the PM said, he will try to resolve the conflict in the Eritrean Orthodox church. Actually there is something happening right now, as I someone close told me, one of the priest from the Ethiopian Orthodox church in Toronto, who was involved in the mediation of the Ethiopian churches, has left to Eritrea. I don’t know the exact nature of his trip, but he said, it may be related to the mediation plan of the Eritrean orthodox church.

          At the end of the day, it may not be the quick change we want and desire, the justice that needs to be served but I think it’s slow but positive change. ቀስ በቀስ እንቁላል በእግሩ ይሀዳል፡)

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            There is only so much the young PM can do as far as effecting political change in Eritrea. That will render Isaias losing control and appear weak as well. And he doesn’t like that. The more we push for political reform in a rather hostile tone and attitude, the more he will remain stubborn. And that certainly is not going to work out particularly when he is gaining momentum.

            I think, the best way is to find a middle ground where by helping him to lead the way to reform. For instance, all Opposition groups can write a letter of national reconciliation and have it delivered to Isaias via the young PM. And see what happens.

        • Desbele

          Selam Paul
          Have you read the scorpion & Frog fable Saay shared. In the middle of the river ,the scorpion stung the frog that was carrying it to safety on the other side of a river bank. Why ? asked frogie , you are gonna die with me.
          Scorpion – “I can’t help it Frogi,It’s in my nature”
          Change is upon us man!

          • Paulos

            Selam Desbele,

            The fable in fact has limitations whereby other confounding factors that could potentially help the frog and stymie the scorpion are eliminated. In all seriousness, more than half of the Eritrean population knows of the struggle for independence and the seemingly perennial feud between Isaias and the traditional Opposition through narratives mostly laced with animosity. And there is a danger of handing the animosity over to them instead of a workable vision forward. It is time, we think and start afresh including entertaining the alternative idea of working with Isaias which could potentially be a productive paradigm shift. Given the recent change in dynamics, do you see any other viable option?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            I read a similar advise from browbyn Bruton! She even suggested we campaign to have him be awarded some sort of peace prize. Of course the paradigm shift would work if the crimes were negligeable and there was an Iota of trust on his character. Sometimes patience works marvels my friend. And there is a Tigrayet saying, “itHamreget it-tserre” As a lab person you know how particles in a liquid settle down quickly when stirred :-

          • Paulos

            Selam Ayay,

            If you say or if you call me, “My Friend” that means I am in trouble. Hope you didn’t see my comment as a disrespect to you or to other Awatistas. My comment is based on lack of other alternatives given the recent developments. That said however, it is not capitulation or anything of that nature but shift in strategy.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Desbele,

            I was going to write this on Saay list of “Game Over” and “Play Again” but this is also appropriate. If not mistaken saay also used the scorpion example.

            Let me play devils advocate. I think IA character towards Ethiopia (Tigray, Amhara, Oromo etc), is quite different compared what you are believing to be. I have read many arguments, that says, IA has bad character and soon he will sting PM AA and the love affairs will end soon.
            I know a lot of people accuse him off as having bad intention for Ethiopia, he is responsible for the break up of the country, he took advantage of Ethiopian economy, he helped and organized Ethiopians enemies like Somali, Egypt and others…,and his intentions were to breakup Ethiopia and lead it to destruction… etc etc.

            But I am arguing there is nothing far from truth. The only exception is, if you call that exception, his target was never Ethiopia the country or Ethiopian people, but the ruling class, be it Derg, or TPLF. I think, actually, he deployed Eritrea’s resources to fight the ruling class so he can free Ethiopia and Ethiopians. Here is a reason why:

            1) find any act that he ordered or is responsible that harmed the Ethiopian people or the country (other than military institution). No civilian targets (other than accidental bombing of the school, where his FM, Haile DureE apologized. I have even Gerard the pilot retaliated without his orders and he was arrested or fired soon after).

            2) taking at his words that he was out of the country when the war started that his general (wushu) have taken the decision and invaded. The letter exchanged with MZ indicate clearly that IA did not escalate the situation, in fact there was a dispute with the money Birr Eritrea has after Ethiopia changed the currency, and Ethiopian military at the boarders incroching in Eritrea’s land, plus the posts they took over kicking ERITREAN administrations, etc.

            3) the handling of Ethiopian POW, during the armed struggle or during the war, no mass shooting, no revenge, nothing out of ordinary. Ethiopians may think otherwise but knowing what we know, with except the public rage against some civilians during the war.

            4) any negative media campaign against the country or the people except those ruling class?

            I wanted to go on, but there is nothing that indicate he wanted to harm Ethiopia ever. In fact I think his sole mission was (or believed it to be) to save Ethiopia.

            This is what I think, when he was saying love, touching his heart, or seemed emotional when they were shouting his name, that his life long ambition was satisfied and completed.

            So as long as Ethiopia rulers do not turn around (he believed he was backstabbed by TPLF) there is nothing IA will do to disrupt these arrangements.

            Berhe

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    Over 800 million Birr is allocated to construct the road from Adwa-Rama-Mereb, Adi Grat-Zalambessa, and Hummera-Asmara. The construction is already underway and 18% is completed. It looks like, Ethiopia is not only extending the imperatives of peace but offering monies to rehabilitate Isaias’ Eritrea as well.

    When there is a robust back and forth movement of people in search of business opportunities, certainly, there will be movement of information as well. That is, there will be influence in attitude and political persuasion where it will be difficult to arrest the freedom to speak up to uphold one’s rights. More over, if Ethiopians are to engage in business endeavors in Eritrea, there will be a demand for a Rule of Law to be in place so that their property ownership will be protected. And obviously, there can not be a separate Rule of Law that can only guarantee non-citizens where the regime will be forced to respect the rights of the citizens as well.

    One can as well make the argument that, a single political party has managed to govern with a sense of efficiency 1.5 billion people since 1978 where the secret for the success is economic liberalism and adjusting and responding to the rising demand of the middle-class–as in China that is. It will only be seen if the single political party in Eritrea rise to the occasion and respond to the demands of the people and improve the standard and quality of living while the political sphere remains unchanged.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    Breaking bad, the weyane right man from the Somalia kilil and his boots burned 7 churches and looted many properties owned by Oromo, Amhara, Tigrians, gurages and other minority’s. Now , Abdi illy off the chair his liyu police scattered and divided Abiy has to put an end to the weyane secret in Somalia region. What else is news ? Ok ok there is a rumor that Issaias generals are in disagreement with him but can we take this rumor as news or just as the old news that Yemane monkey was arrested in America or the death of DIA !!!! Hold on and wait for Gedeb news . Oh I forgot Kibrom supposed to say many things about this ?

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam blink
      1st,i don’t know where have u been but it is not breaking news.
      2nd, thing like this has been going on for almost the last 27 years so still it is not breaking news.
      3rd, i think it Wil be one of the last incident to happen in ethiopia.
      4th, it is breaking news for tplf for losing it’s last influence outside of tigrai.
      5, after the somali kilil mess settled, we will start to see a court of law punishing the last 27 years criminals.

      • Arkebe Gomida

        but you have to know
        1.TPLF is in tigrai and tigrai is the state of those patriotic people in africa not to say in the world.
        2, TPLF means the people of tigrai and the people of tigrai is TPLF you may learned this from the recent mass demonstration in the state of Tigrai.
        3. you can dream that TPLF will surrendered how ever it is just a dream. when it was started it was with only ten farmer fighters, right now it is millions who considered them selves as woyane. on the demonstration, people have sing together”woyane ina lomie woyane ena, woyane ena tsibah woyanie ena”.
        4. if you agree with what i have told you on the above, it is to be mean what ever happened in ethiopia, scince the tigrai is there it is enough for you. specially for such people like you.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam arkebe
          i know tplf r illiterate coward bunch of people and they just got lucky. That is what i know about tplf .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            But you are an illiterate troll.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            U r one nonsense who don’t know what u talking about.
            Keep being idoit with ur group there.

  • ‘Gheteb

    in Diplomacy: Eritrea Carrying The Day, Hand Over Fist

    Greetings!!

    Just in this week Eritrea’s diplomatic activities yet again shows the success it has been accruing in the past two months. Since the watershed peace deal with Ethiopia, the Somalian Eritrea rapprochement comes close to a diplomatic coup. Here are some of the diplomatic highlights involving Eritrea;

    1) Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir on Sunday met Eritrean Foreign Minister Osman Saleh Mohammed and Presidential Adviser Yemane Gebreab in Jeddah.

    – The Saudi Foreign Minister will be visiting Asmara soon.

    2) State Minister for Foreign Affairs of Japan Mr. Masahisa SATO on two days official visit to Asmara.

    3) Ethiopian FM, Workneh Gebyhu and Oromia regional president Lemma Megerssa are due to arrive in Asmara for an official visit.

    Such diplomatic activities gives credence to the eloquent AVOWAL of General Sibhat Ephrem that Eritrea is indeed the center of gravity of The Horn Of Africa.

    • saay7

      Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

      These are such diplomatic breakthroughs that have never ever happened anywhere else (as a matter of routine.)

      1. It’s not like the Saudi Foreign Minister has to Equatorial Guinea or Congo recently. No, Eritrea, under the wise leadership of Tegadalai Isaias Afwerki, was the only country on his itinerary.

      2. Similarly, it is not like Japan MoFA Masahisa Sato had paid a visit to Ghana, Namibia, Cameroon. No, no, no. Only Eritrea.

      3. The Ethiopians (FM Workneh Gebyhu and Lema Megersa) are not in Eritrea to entice the last rebel holdout Dawud Ibsa to pack up and come home before he embrasses (as if that’s possible) Isaias into kicking him home. No, no, they are there to receive words of wisdom from Isaias.

      Eritrea, under the leadership of Isaias Afwerki, had been the destabilizer of the region, warranting multiple sanctions endorsed by IGAD and AU. And like a child who stops having a temper tantrum, the adults are petting its head: good boy, there, there, good boy. What a BIG boy you are.

      saay

      • Ismail AA

        Dear saay,

        Putting aside spinning of “diplomatic” prowess and “breakthroughs” to regime zealots, should we as Eritrean worry about what Isaias Afewerki has to sell to bin Salman and bin Zaid. The Ethiopians have land for granaries the those dollars rich guys could buy. No one among us suspect them they need gold of Bisha or tuna of the Red sea. Their only interest which the dictator won’t hesitate to transact is manpower (read cannon fodder) for the losing adventure in Yemen.

        They had exhausted Sudanese, Senegalese and other poor Sahelian nations youth. They are in dire need of mercenaries, which the smart Europeans are not ready to provide except weapons and advice from safe places. Knowing the recent adventures of the despots in other place, his flirtation and camaraderie with those oil magnates worries me. I do not think the Ethiopian would fall for the trap, but the despot in our land, it worries me.

        This past few days, some sources have been reporting the Saudis are courting the Al-Qa’ida groups who are active in provinces that make the former South Yemen like Hadramout with the American looking the other way.

        • saay7

          Selamat Islamilom:

          I will share with you what you know, for the benfit of those with short memories, on the “game over!”, “Play Again” vicious cycle the Isaias regime has been on since 1994:

          1994: Isaias threatens to overthrow Sudan’s Turabi*. On record. (Game On)
          1995: Sudan shows its not going to be a cake walk. (Game Over.)
          1995: Isaias starts war with Yemen over Hanish Islands. (Play Again!)
          1998: The war with Yemen ends in arbitration largely in favor of Yemen (Game Over)
          1998: Starts war with Ethiopia. (Play Again!)
          2000: Ends in military defeat for Eritrea. (Game Over!)
          2000: Arbitration starts with Ethiopia. (Play Again!)
          2002: Arbitration ends in victory for Eritrea. (Game Over!)
          2002: Ethiopia proposes 5 Point Peace Plan (Do Not Play Again!)
          2005: Eritrea provides political, materiel, manpower support to armed Somali groups (Play Again)
          2008: Eritrea goes to war with Djibouti (Play Again)
          2008: Eritrea signs undisclosed agreements with Iran (Play Again)
          2009: Eritrea gets sanctioned (Game Over)
          2015: Eritrea joins Saudi Alliance Physical War Against Yemen Diplomatic War Against Qatar** (Play Again with Saudi Arabia; Game Over with Iran)
          2018: Eritrea makes peace with Ethiopia (Game Over)

          So, do you have any doubt that a man who fines parents of National Service conscripts 50,000 Nakfa and says that if these same people want to return they have to pay $50,000 (USD) wouldn’t do ANYTHING for money?

          saay:

          * Turabi used to refer to Isaias as “my son” when he sided with him over the other Eritrean orgs.
          ** Qatar sustained Eritrea’s economy and gave it face-saving support as “mediator” of the Djibouti crisis

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi SAAY

            According to PFDJ Eritreans have short memories. They forget things esealy, they say. Please show them that we have memories that span generations. Nothing will be forgotten. You made a very good short summary of their military and diplomatic debacles. ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ
            ድላዩ መራሕቲ ክመርጽ ከይገድፉ፤ ሰብ እናቀተሉ መን ከማና ይብሉ::
            Is there a list of successes military or doplomatic since 1991? Or they are living on past credit.

          • saay7

            HaileZ:

            There was another “Play Again”, “Game Over” with Sudan concerning the “Eastern Front.”

            And of course we are now in another “Play Again” with Susan, with borders closed.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            I have some tidbits that don’t make “news” by themselves but combined with other tidbits may show a pattern or a picture.

            – Things were getting extremely worst after the Sudan border closure. For example, all (7-9) mills in Mendefera were closed because the amount of grain was not worth the amount of the rationed fuel needed to operate a mill.

            – There are 172-174 colonels (gebertin gedeftin) in the Eritrean DF. Most of them are not in the fronts but running the day to day life of residents. The way my source put it was: “they can take your house or give you one.”

            – During the first flight, the government rank and file was not informed about who was coming when and why until “strangers” arrived at the airport without visas. A confusion ensued at the airport. A phone call had to be made to the president and they were told “agaishna iyom” and all was well. Personnel was frustrated about why they were not told a little ahead of time.

            – A couple of days following the first arrival of visitors in Asmara, the government (the banks) declared that they will not accept any currency that is either torn or with writings on it. Taxi drivers, restaurants, and other businesses began to ask customers to show them the currency before they can serve them and that kind of dumped “cold water” on the mood of the city. Some Eritreans did not bother to ask out of pride “not to embarrass their country.”

            – Most of the “front line celebrants” are government organized and recruits. They are head quartered in Keren. Some new cultural clothing had to be distributed for them to celebrate with.

            – the moment rumors of “peace” spread and Eritrean troops were seen leaving the border garrisons, there was a surge of people heading toward Ethiopia. There was a lot of “this is our chance” type of rushed migration as my source put it.

          • saay7

            His Fantiness:

            Look at you doing your iGedab News:) Don’t know what triggered it but more please. My take on:

            1. Sudan border Closure. This one stung hard (Play Again?): if, despite your long coastline, you have never been able to get foreign direct investment because foreigners don’t want to run the risk of having laborers who are also indentured; if the only business model you know is racketeering (war economy) and you off-again on-again frenemy shuts its borders on you and, and if, at the time this happened, this country was the one one (out of 3) with whom you have a healthy relationship, then it will sting. Thankfully one relationship is mending (PFDJ rule: one normal relationship at a time. please!) and the cash crunch may lessen. Ethiopian Airlines is paying real money and cargo shipment from Asab will start very soon (more real money.)

            2. Ah, the riddle of the 170. Some of these (20?30? 70?) are the colonels who did really really well in the Eritrean youths bad old days (2008-2015.) they are our New Rich and if we have demobilization and reintegrarion of our National Service, they lifestyle will change from one averaging 10,000 Nakfa a month to one living on a colonels salary (1,000 Nakfa.) Part of the reason we have peace but no peace dividend as IA tries to figure out how he stays in power AND who cares about the other part.

            3. On airport employees not knowing who was coming, did they get a visa and them calling the presidents office for clarification (not Minister of Local Government, Minister of Justice, Office of Immigration) is because none of these offices nor any gov official knew. And people get offended when I say “Isaias” instead of “Eritrean Govt.”

            4. On the “Frontline celebrants” as you called them the flakiest of all the fake outrages has been people pretending to be surprised that the “Committee on Fesficities” one of the most important propaganda arms of PFDJ which works year round to organize all the IA=PFDJ=Eritrea national holidays would not be running the whole show for choreographing the “People’s spontaneous demonstration of love to Abiy”. Habesha please.

            5. I am trying to find a UNHCR case like ours where the circumstances (predatory state) that gave rise to people seeking exile have not changed but the real reason the predatory State was predatory state really was the tension with a neighboring country and that has changed and therefore let’s end it all.

            So I don’t know what’s going to happen to the 10s of thousands of Eritreans in Ethiopian refugee camps.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            Your last “Sudan border closure” triggered it.

            #2 the salary may have risen to 1200 Nakfa for a colonel, but the life style of a colonel is nowhere near to explain it. Among numerous privileges, they are allowed to collect harvest above X amount, animals, and other sustenance from farmers.

            #3 was a surprise for me too.

            #4 is double confirmed. I heard with my own ears “ሓደ ናይ መንግሰቲ ሰራሕተኛ ከይተርፍ ኢሎምና ላዕልን ታሕቲን ንብል ኣለና” from a government employee family friend.

            There was some force involved with government employees but there were also many who were genuinely excited by the prospect. So, I concluded “unnecessary force was used.”

            From what I have learned so far PFDJs seem worried about what to do next. Releasing prisoners marks the beginning of losing control. They cannot release prisoners before preparing answers.

            Here is my wild guess:

            The number of prisoners is high enough or the secrets they know is damaging enough for the government to worry about their organizing to challenge it, therefore loyal forces to protect the government have to be strategically placed and compensation for loyalists reprogrammed before releasing prisoners.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear saay,

            This “start game” and “game over” in past were for ego massaging and regime funding such oil from Iran. This time, as the Saudis and Emaratis are desperate for foot soldiers as they keep on sinking in the quagmire called Yemen, their target might be our unlucky youth.

          • Robel Cali

            HI SAAY

            We know you are going to make your ancestral homeland of Tigray the victors but the reality is, Ethiopian General Tsadkan Gebretensae said two-thirds of Ethiopian army were put out of action during the Eritrean-Ethiopian war. He said in his book that the reason why they went for the peace deal with Eritrea was because their remaining forces were overstretched and feared they were being led into a trap.

            “At the end of April 1999, the war re-started in the Badme front. Even though we suffered great losses, we were able to reach Barentu. But the commanders were communicating to Tsadkan that Shaebia had preserved its entire troops and fighting capability through strategic withdrawals and that its losses were minimal. The commanders were warning Tsadkan that Shaebia was lulling us to a place inside Eritrea were it would encircle and liquidate us. Moreover, the commanders were telling Tsadkan that the deeper we got into Eritrea the farther away we were from our command centers and supply lines, lacking organizational support and that the only option was to retreat.”

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Robel Cali,

            I see. PIA was calling President Clinton at midnight as the Eth. Army was heading his way, to update the military success he is having. Is that it?
            These things are not Adulisian history. These stories can be read in New York times, Time magazine and your own family letters. When it fits your purposes you bring in a Woyane book story, now.

            For the last 20 years Eth. soldiers were in Eritrean territory and PIA was engaged in strategic withdrawal. Is that the explanation.

            Just remember one thing from now on. Simple arithmetic.
            Ethiopia=100 million, Eritrea 5 million.
            Don’t you dare say that you are like Israel (PIA said that). Implication, we are Arabs.
            One last thing, according to PIA several weeks ago, we are the same kind of one people. You disagree ?

            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            No no k h u bullshitting again .
            I don’t know about u but when it comes to ethio- eri border dispute
            Ethio=100 m. Eri =5 m. Don’t work.
            Don’t u read a news or follow what is going on in ethio now days.
            i still know u have to babysit in order to get paid but u need to come up with something that make sense, otherwise for sure u will lose ur money.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Kim; putting aside your 100 mil versus 5 mil, well, if you were a good student of history. It is the 5 mil that left you without sea outlate and bend you for 30 years. So, please accept the truth and listen to your ever confusing leader when he told you that there is only one way to deal with Eritrea and Eritreans, the only way, peace!!! don’t forget Eritrea and Eritreanism is deep rooted and we are here to up hold that root. So, i wouldn’t read too much in to PIA’s score settling BS what he said when he was in Ethiopia. He was just sticking it to the weyanes, nothing more nothing less.
            Now, that is not why i came here to say, i was watching the reception of Jawar Mohammed in millennium Adarash and watching it, you came to my mind. At one time, i was arguing with you about the politics of Ethiopia and you say something that came to life while i was watching Jawar’s BS. You said, back then, ” you don’t know nor you understand Ethiopian political history”. I think you are right. while i was watching the crowd in Millennium Adarsh. i couldn’t spot one Ethiopian flag. it was all nothing but Oromo’s flag. This is a big victory for the Weyane. TPLF know you better and I don’t. The Tigryans keep saying that once TPLF is out of the way, the Oromo and Amhara will finish each other and TPLF will be back to power. I am starting to believe it. You may say what is the big deal but it is a big deal, the oromo are telling you everything you need to know. I think your country is in trouble. I have read Dr. Tadesse, i think, he did his dissertation about the Derg and he believes that Derg didn’t mean to get violence, their slogan was, “Ethiopia Tikdem Ale minim Dem” but when things got tough, they went all out blood. And the same thing, your new leader is preaching peace, forgiveness and unity but i am afraid, he is uniting with wrong people. What happened in Jawar’s reception and what he did in Ambo today, will not help you at all. it is for the matter of time till the guns come out and firing. You were right, i don’t know about Ethiopian politics and i now understand why you support the weyane. I am learning!!! Ye dedeb neger.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            1,what happens now in ethiopia is called one step at a time so in 2 or 3 years u will see those same people waving the new ethiopia flag , the new ethiopia flag will be the tplf star will be replaced by oromo flag(just the star part will be replaced ).
            2, tplf think ethiopia will not be governed any more and that was why they evacuated addis without more bloodshed. And u will see when everything will be alright.
            Just give them time.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Taddy; I hope you are right but this blind Medemer is dangerous. Some people are just meant to be medemer. How could you consider Mengstu Hailemariam to be part of the Medemer? What is going on Ethiopia is good for the religious conference but not for 100 mil people and political mechanism. I know you are saying give it time but you may not have the time.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I know what u mean but don’t forget the country has been dismantled by tplf for the last 27 years on the row. And there is no medemer with mengistu, it is tplf propaganda and HD stupidity.
            And for sure there is no medemer with the criminal part of tplf too

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Teodros Alem,

            T. A, I am now putting you on my “Severely Ignored List”. The reason is …………. too many to list.

            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            What u want me to say
            Pls k h pls don’t do that pls.
            Do u know where i put u long time ago? U don’t wanna know.
            Reread all what u have been saying in this forum and u will know ………..
            I put u guys ” …..” List Long time ago and it is not just me but a lot of ethiopians. U think am kidding. Right?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            I know you are hanging out with M.S too long. Your posts are getting longer by the week. I expect an announcement of a book coming out soon.
            You read my post to Robel Cali and came out blazing. It really does not matter, that kind of historical argument.
            I even promised myself not to be irritated when intellectually dishonest folks present a recent verifiable event in a stupid way, like he did.
            I should let it go but the Nitricc in me says no no no go out there and engage in a “testa” jamboree.
            I end up having head ache all the time I do it. Ye dedeb neger.

            You are attributing a lot of things to me and my knowledge of Ethiopian history. Please. I cannot accept that.

            Yes I have been a qualified supporter of TPLF after the 1998 war. I thought TPLF/EPLF in effect was the same organization with a division of labor. EPLF has the Military, tanks and the Air Force while TPLF will be responsible for the Police and the civilian administration. That was what I thought at the time.
            After 2000 and with some reservation I began to appreciate what TPLF was able to do.
            They single “handedly” saved Ethiopia from a certain disintegration. They set up the Federal system with a capacity that is still working. Then later on, I appreciated them even more for what they accomplished in infrastructure and economic progress. The railway, Universities, schools, clinics, dams etc………so much accomplished in such a short time.

            Politics being politics the composition and its orientation appears to be changed. My hope still is for the progress to continue. The relative peaceful change will find its natural footing and once again the focus will be the “economic growth” of the nation.
            I think one ethnic group dominating the rest is gone for good. The choice now is togetherness or constant tribal conflicts.
            The “Medemer” is a good slogan for the time.

            Don’t worry about the flag. It is a piece of cloth stitched together, you know.
            The Green, Yellow, and Red is written in the sky. That will never change.

            Mr. K.H

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi RC

            …and where are you from anyway? Where is your ancestral land? Can you put your first, middle and last name? Like SAAY and then talk the talk. If you have any decency in you, you would not have said what you said writing with pen name.

          • Robel Cali

            HI Haile Zeru,

            This is a website that has been bashing my ethnic group (Tigrinya) through various writers for many years (mostly between 2008-2012). It’s only in recent years that they cleaned it up (sort of). I didn’t say anything that wasn’t true nor do I feel bad for stating the obvious. This is the same guy that dismisses Tigrinya people as “Koboro Junkies”.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi RC,

            Reread my comment above. You do not need to answer it. This is the most decent Eritrean website. I followed it since it started. And SAAY is one of the best eritrean intellectuals. If you say something personal about him, it is just a matter of disclosure, tell everybody your identity starting with your full name. Most people here are from biher Tigrinya anyway and most Tigrinya hail from Tigray and Gonder. Why only some are being targetted and questioned about their ancestery?
            … And why that does not apply to Issayas and most PFDJ leaders?
            My advice to you is follow at least the guidelines of this website.

          • Robel Cali

            Hello Haile

            It is clear from your emotional response that I struck a nerve. I doubt you are a Tigrinya person. You are a Tigrayan or a non-Tigrinya pretending to be a Tigrinya.

            Getting back to your claim of Tigrinya people hailing from Tigray. That is your opinion. However, based on evidence, civilization in the Horn of Africa began in the Sembel district of Asmara 2,900 years ago. These ancient people demonstrated early culture traits of present-day Tigrinya people. So it would be impossible for Tigrinya people to come from Tigray or Gondar when Tigrayan and Gondare culture traits came from these early Sembel people.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Robel Cali,

            Whether they immigrated from Sembel district of Asmara as you claim or you are from the remnants of Alula militias who settled in Hamassein, they are your cousins. They immigrate to the south or you crawled as a conqueror to the north has the same meaning. Remnants of Alula militias, Tegaru and Gonder people are one people. “Anyone who thinks we are different people doesn’t know history”, Isaias Afwerquee. I guess Robel is singing outside the flock. He is outside the satellite coverage.

            Isaias sanctioned the people of Eritrea before the courteous UN sanctions. He has imprisoned Islamic schools teachers in 1991 and upto date their where abouts is unknown. He has sanctioned Eritreans from the age of 15 to 60 by putting them in trenches. No one is allowed to leave Eritrea, and those who are found fleeing the country are put in holes. He has put children, mothers, old men and women under house arrest starving without anyone takes care of them.

            Isaias has sanctioned Eritreans from freedom of speech, political rights, educational rights, health care rights, work rights, business rights, travel rights. building home rights, farming rights, feeling secure in their motherland rights, etc., Isaias has sanctioned the people of Eritrea the worst kind of sanctions in history at least in the near past history. When I compare the UN sanctions with that of Isaias I rate the UN sanctions as gracious sanctions.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Hameed, very well put bro; it is actually mind boggling when the DIA regime apologists cry about the toothless UN sanctions while ignoring the worst sanctions that have been placed on our people for decades by the regime they prop up They have given a blind eye to the suffering of the people, in fact, making the suffering worse by their support, while at the same time complaining ad nauseum about almost non-existing sanctions. Nothing of value that is in the UN-sanctions has so far been implemented; the finances of the dictator and his henchmen, the useless arms embargo, the travel ban, the listing of the accused pfdj officials, etc. nothing has been implemented. It is just symbolic sanctions, and useless, would not make any difference if they are in place or lifted.
            One advantage of the toothless sanctions to the regime is that it gives it some kind of lame excuse to act as a victim, and for all its failures to deliver on every aspect of its rule.

          • Blink

            Dear Abraham
            I hope you understand a sanctioned country is unfavorable to foreign investment and even if some companies invest their stock market is always below the market due risk assessment become more flashy than the actual value of the company. So you should not see sanction as for military hardware. Remember Eritrea is an open sea country and what ever you do to stop arms sale will not be possible may be the price can increase but they can not be stoped . Now who was sanctioned? What kind of asset can it be freezed ? I highly doubt there is any asset in any individual of Eritrean connected to PFDJ. What the sanction did was give excuses to PFDJ plus hung the investment. That was all .

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Blink, regarding the so called arms embargo, what is the UAE doing under the nose of the UNSC? Didn’t the UAE establish a modern military base at Asseb, many years after the sanctions were put on Eritrea? Someone doesn’t even need to hide the introduction of arms to Eritrea, as it has been taking place on daytime.
            Regarding investment, let alone companies that are listed on the stock market, Eritrea has been closed for investment even for its nationals who live inside the country. Forget about those foreign companies; in Eritrea what is missing is hres harestay, nged negaday, sheql sheqalay, etc. And as long as the DIA controlled regime is in place, Eritrea is being made to fail on purpose; I just don’t understand when this fact is going to be clear for your likes.

          • Blink

            Dear Abraham
            Agreed on the sanction of arms thing and agreed on the Harestay + shekalay but I still believe the foreign investment is hunged by sanction and with that any investment from abroad comes with risks. Let’s take the share value to Bisha and also other companies in Eritrea. The stock price is down because of the sanction. On top of that I believe the sanction was done by weyane . I don’t believe there was any thing to do with Al-shebab or Djibouti.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Blink, Eritrea, under dia, doesn’t have any reliable, and sound investment policy. This is the main hinder for investment, be it domestic or international. DIA has been having uncountable meetings with his Arab counterparts regarding investment, business, etc. Have you seen any meaningful investments out of these meetings that benefited the people? The toothless sanctions are not economic sanctions directed at the Eritrean people; they were meant to be directed at some regime officials, freeze of their assets, travel ban etc. But even such things have not been done. Thus the stock price of Bisha/Nevsun depends more on the price of gold/Cu/Ag, etc, and the accusations of the company using slave labor, etc rather than the toothless UN sanctions.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Rebel Cali,
            You started your comment by making a bigoted comment, stripping Saay of his Eritrean identity. Could you honestly explain why Saay is not included in your Tigrinya group because that is how you have decide his likes should be identified? Maybe I can help you with that, his name is Saleh. Isn’t that the truth?

            On this website hosting you claimed anti Tigrinya articles, i am sure you mean Ali Salim. But I also know at that time, Ali Salim and Semere Tesfai wrote equally incendiary articles. I even wrote stating they are equally passionate and if I could get the two to sit together, they might arrive at an agreement. But your remembering one and conveniently forgetting the other demonstrates your prejudice. Also, you are in the group that defamed me for years claiming I was Ali Salim. I never got an apology after your rabid defamation campaign.

            As the Lobito junkies, I said it and I say it now. Anyone who is in the PFDJ camp is. a Lobito junkie, whatever his identity is. To me even the American Thomas Miuntain isa Lobito junkie. Now go ahead and use your twisted logic and consider that anti this or that group.

            Finally, you are not used to freedom of expression under the PFDJ and this website is an example of that and you do not need any evidence for that, I hope. We are also aware of elements who frequent here to disrup the only popular patriotic website because it embarrasses their regime. We know you do not approve of Ethiopians and particularly Tigrayans having equal treatment like anybody else. For God’s! We are even tolerating PFDJ elements! So, if you know anything about the media, you would understand that the website can only be judged by its editorial and news. The rest is opinion, including my column. And that principle allows two choices the editors have: one is to censor writers and the second is to allow anyone to post their views provided they abide by the posting guidelines. But for you to be this vengeful after so many years of reading an article is a testimony that you abhore freedoms. And worse, your first sentence is worsevthat what you are accusing this website for hosting. Do you see why many of us despise the PFDJ culture? I guess you don’t.

          • Am Ne

            Your stamina is admirable

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Saleh Johar

            SAAY is not included into the Tigrinya group because he is a Jeberti. Whatever identity someone wishes to have needs to be respected. There is this misconception that being a Tigrinya Muslim means you are a Jeberti. That is crazy to me. Identity doesn’t change with your religious belief or lack thereof. Faith has no bearing on a Tigrinya person’s identity.

            While I’m on the Jeberti topic, why don’t Somali Jebertis, Tegaru Jebertis, Amhara Jebertis and Djiboutian Jebertis claim separate identity? Why is it only the Eritrean Jebertis that seek a separate identity (which I think is fine and justified)? Seems odd, no?

            I wasn’t politically active back then. I was busy with school and other things. Did I believe opposition sites that suggested you were Ali Salim? Absolutely. Was I proven wrong? Yes. But you still posted his hate speech, so you are just as guilty as Ali Salim. I mean you’re calling me a bigot for suggesting Jebertis come from Tigray, yet you were letting hate speech against Tigrinya people published on Awate for years. Now you’re saying I’m predijuice for not condemning Semere’s reactionary responses to Ali Salim? Come on! Semere (or whatever his name was) was no where near as vicious and hateful as Ali Salim. He couldn’t be. If he was, you would not post it. I know for a fact you wouldn’t because you’re triggered by my comment to SAAY. I remember even other opposition writers calling you out on it saying you took it too far. Outside of the Awate bubble, everyone believes you took it too far.

            Awate is not a patriotic site. This is a site that gets giddy when it report sanctions are not going to be lifted. The collective punishment of Eritreans seems to be okay with Awate so long as it slows down the government.That is not patriotism. Now you did fight for Eritrea so you as an individual are a patriot. But Awate’s positions are not patriotic. Saying the illegal sanctions are wrong and still condemning the Eritrean government is patriotism.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Robel,

            You seem to be like a snow flake.

            Ali Salim publishing his thoughts is more valuable than hiding them.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Robel,
            I am sorry I stopped repeating the same explanation for those who are not willing to listen. But if you are interested, you can look it up, the Jeberti thing… do some work, man!

            But here is a bonus: Jeberti is not a race or a tribe. It is a nation because it is not a blood association, but the joint identity and one of its defining identities, happen to be religion, in the case of Eritrean Jeberti, Tigrinya speaking Muslims. Why would that cause you trouble, I d not know. So, among the Jeberti are Asawertas, Belews, Srawetot, AkeleGuzais, Hamesnites, Hababs, Yemenis, Somalis, Sudanese, etc. THe solution is do not try to impose your qualifiers on others and wonder why they don’t fit. Tey don’t because they have their own. While you are at it, ask around why the newly coined “Tigrinya” identity i acceptable to you, but Jeberti that existed fior a millenia, not acceptable? You may get some indications thare. I Hope this helps.

            See Robel! Would it be fair if someone accused awate.com for what you posted? Awate, why did you allow Robel’s comments, you are %435tt and you are *97%#34…. You got the idea.

          • Natom Habom

            Selam Johar
            you make me laugh ,I needed it today ,you said Jeberti existed for millennia ,where didi it say that ,remember our people invented a writting system ,the memorize it in what people or event that happened around us ,jJeberti is no were mentioned at all, it is just the same illness from the south the fever of identity complex .
            once you guys claim Arabic origin even when you are black at the night
            once they were jeberti kingdom in sudan ,once they claim Somali origin ,and at the come back and say they real real habesha that received the prophet messenger and other even tigrigna are settler in the region ,in other word you have none ,and you can not rewrite history again it s a crime ,in RWANDA this kind of identity complex and inferiority complex took the life of hundreds of thousands life
            thank GOD you are a minority ,

          • Haile Zeru

            Please SGJ
            ignore these garbage.

            This is the generation that if you are not Tewhado and you do not speak Tigrinya you are not Eritrean kind of people. And his tigrinya is the most twisted, accented even in writing, I wonder how it sounds spoken.
            His aim (and others like him) is to divert the discussion away from GOE.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Haile Zeru,
            You’re correct. It is a good advice to SGJ and others. Such individuals with parochial and retarded mental attitudes should be ignored. What they write and say is like street sided decomposing garbage. The passerby should make a detour to avoid the stink. This person doesn’t understand he is involving himself in grave offense behind a nickname. I bet he would not summon courage to say what he has written under real and identifiable name.

          • Natom Habom

            selam ZERU
            WHERE did I say Eritrea belong only to tewahido and tigrigna ??
            you want to set fire as you set fire to Somalia and still setting fire to Ethiopia ,how do you know if I am tewahido or tigrigna ?
            why you and your desbele go and fix your own problem ,you know you are in big big big trouble ,the hunt already began ,I know you wanted that for us but Eritrean outsmarted you ,you called us garbage as there is more dirty than you የ ቀን ጂቦች

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Fishmilk and others,
            I didn’t realize I didn’t check the forum for too long. Otherwise, I would have noticed you running around with your machete. Good luck to kick off your ethnic cleansing. Now you know why we love the PFDJ and its appendages–they are very civilized, Gandhi incarnations. Because I love you so much, I suggest you give up everything you are doing for a few weeks and read enough history. And kindly look up the meaning of consistency. You can promote violence and bigotry and at the same time good neighborliness and governance. That is no good, just sharpen your machete and incite people like you to butcher anyone you do not approve of their identity. Thank you for being an excellent exhibit of what ails Eritrea under the PFDJ.

            NB: for the rest of you who asked me to ignore this, you must be out of your mind. This is a learning occasion in case some compatriots might have missed the class. Thank you.

          • Natom Habom

            selam Johar
            you know in any of our history our people never used any violence
            against any one if not provocate and stop using pfdj as scapegoat
            but why you feel hurt about your origine ,it say my ancestor was afar he come I dont know why but after he get baptised in debre bizen he get married and he have the hole area with several villages belong to same man origin.
            to this day some of the afar used to look in the hand to recognize their cousin I don t know about that if it is true the man not only oraly transmited but inscribed and conserved I miself doubted this history until ALAMIN SAID anyway ,so why are you denying your tigray origine you know they are human too ? rewriting the past make you feel better ? just asking no offend

          • Saleh Johar

            Anta Natom,
            Now you are getting weirder. Who told you I am hurt by my origin? My problem is when you try to tell me of my origin when you have no clue. I do not know your origin, but I supposed you have your seventh ancestor’s birth certificate to make an argument. But I would settle for the third of the fourth ancestor. You know, the birth certificate they used to issue in the municipality of the villages of Eritrea before Eritrea was created! That one. I love the DNA technology, I might pay for you to test your DNA, then the discussion here would be fun.

            As for the violence in Eritrea, I agree, for the most part. But we had our share, the receiving end always remembers it. But let’s agree on that. Now, do you dream of keeping that or you have plans to reverse it? That is the issue.

          • Natom Habom

            selam johar
            even you never heard about birth certificate until you claim asylum
            in WEST even the dna think ,but fine for me you right I think it just history made up by the locale maybe it s fake I dont care anyway then why you get mad when we said there is no real for your claim ?
            that there no evidence ,and there are not mention anyway
            or you have birth certificate from milennia with DNA PROOF ?you cant pay for me nothing i could if you want I m not in the payroll of woyane just thinkng maybe you are banckrupt now

          • Saleh Johar

            Natom!!!
            You use my own reasoning to deflate your argument, against me? That is called plagiarism my dear. Come with your own arguments because ethically, you cannot use my reasoning to argue against me. You are bankrupt Natom Habom, I only beg you to give me what is mine: Natey habenni 🙂

          • Natom Habom

            I have nothing that belong to you ,lik I said I have no dna of my ancestor ,a birth certificate dont make a national ,it just a document to proof were you are born but dont guaranty citizenship,
            the birth certificate has been enforced under pfdj , in the past I dont think everyone have one

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Saleh Johar

            “I also know at that time, Ali Salim and Semere Tesfai wrote equally incendiary articles.”

            THAT IS FALSE EQUVALENCE

            I never disrespected any Eritrean ethnic or Eritrean faith in my articles or comments. All I did was quote him (Ali Salim or whoever I was responding to) and rebut his/her argument.

            When Ali Salim was writing and posting his HATE articles here at Awate, he was doing it feeling AT HOME. Believe me, then and now, I did/do write very carefully and very responsibly – because I know better. And when I say this, I say it with pride and confidence.

            If you believe I’m not telling the truth, I challenge you to quote me. All the things I wrote (as an article or as comments) are public records for all to see.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Semere,

            I will not go through your articles because I am not interested in the topic. However, you and Alu were arguing from two sides, equally passionate, and equally triggered emotions. That is why I wrote I liked you two because you seem to believe what you wrote and I trusted if you sat, there was a chance you would solve your differences. If you do not remember that, I will get you a link during the weekend. But off my head, I remember the Ali craze started when he talked about land grabbing. And in the debates, you wrote threatening that the Tigrinya know how to divide you… paraphrased.

            Look Semere, I have no problem people debating such issues because I believed airing concern is a pre-requisite for reconciliation. But I discovered many people would rather talk in private, gossip, and defame and pretend to be repulsed of such atopic in public. I liked your arguments because you were expressing it publicly–but please, do not think your articles were any less than Ai’s.

            You felt at Home and he felt at home–when he made his U-turn he felt at home, you still feel at home to come here and debate though on this one you are using one of your subtle insinuations–feeling at Home!!!

          • saay7

            Selamat SGJ:

            I don’t remember Semere’s articles in their entirety; all I remember is there was a lot of angst from people who misread him, in the same way there was a lot of angst from people who misread Ali Salim. So perhaps you, navigating both the highland-lowland cultures, were comparing the reactions to both from different, um, what is Emma’s word for it, “social groups”?

            What I remember is Semere T had a lot of what he called “bumper stickers” which were bold, underlined, italicized for emphasis and the bottom line (I think) was (a) the Eritrean Tigrinya are the majority and in any meaningful democracy they will have a dominant voice and (b) bad news Abu Ulwa (Ali Salim), if you were thinking you were going to unify the remaining 8 language groups into a block that will counter-balance this domination, it won’t happen and here’s why, followed by more bumperstickers. It was a take-it-or-leave-it message couched with a lot of “Abu Ulwa.”

            The erudite Ismail Omer Ali, who has a front page article at awate, attempted to analyze and synthesize the views of both. and it was called “Nationalism & Democracy: Rhetoric vs Reality” and people can check that out, if they would rather not discuss the actual article these comments are appearing under.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Semere Tesfay’s bumper stickers were in reaction to Ali Salim’s article. His article was in attemp to defend the power of the highlanders. In doing so (a) he framed the power struggle of Eritrean politics between the Christian highlanders and the Min-Amir lowlanders (b) I don’t know where he gets his statistics (Anyway Semere creates his own numbers), but he told us that the Christians are the majoritarian and will be the ruling social group in the Eritrean politics. In his own words he told to the other social groups unequivocally: “we will rule you and you will be ruled” a kind of arrogant response to antagonize the mistrust of our social make up. Actually, I had an article in response to both Ali Salim and Semere.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat

            “we will rule you and you will be ruled”

            That is a big fat lie. I never said the words you put on quotation, never!
            Now prove me wrong

            Semere Tesfai

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Semere T.,

            Do you agree on points A & B? the quoted one take it as paraphrase, until I pull your article.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat

            Pull the article(s) – it will defend itself. Close to a decade old but still as current as it could be.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Desbele

            Selam Haile
            There are few in this forum that you just skip them.I have noticed Awatewians after so long has started to do so and those zombie s are just writing for themselves

          • Haile Zeru

            Thanks
            for the advice. I already had
            Bad encounter with this person. I do not know why I responded.
            This will be my last one.

          • Natom Habom

            selam desbele
            ,are you the GUY from the bankrupt BURUH MESAII ?
            how are you doing ,HOW IS THE PROJECT ANDINET going on ?
            I might be wrong so many tigryan her talking Eritrea internal afair while the have worst issue in their own homeland aye ye qen jiboch

          • Blink

            Dear Natom
            What’s Bruh meSaii ?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Blink; I think it supposed mean as of ” Bright future” but the dead souls like Desbele are saying When TPLF comes to full power, including to control Eritrea then and then is what they are saying is the Bright future. The Dush is hopeless and junky of Simer who are working for the Weyane. The good news is, no more fund because TPLF crippled and Radio Wegahta is taking its last gossip. Bright future my foot. the guy this Desebele-lel-el is a loser.

          • Blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Oh , Desbele, I just refused to see he exist, people like him are just the branch of agazian dreamers.

          • Natom Habom

            Selam blink
            they are kind of weird people that bash our fallen
            day and night ,they claim that fighter are Shifta ,the name Eritrea
            come from Italian so on and so on as Nitricc said I think they a branch of that crazy Agazian but for sure they want union with our fake cousin from the south river

          • David Samson

            Selam Robel.

            You could have substituted

            “2000: Ends in military defeat for Eritrea. (Game Over!)”

            With

            “2000: Ends in military VICTORY for Eritrea. (Game Over!)”.

            You made your points, but the personal attack on SAAY is unwarranted. If I were you , I will take it back and apologies.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Robel,

            What is wrong if someone’s ancestral home is Tigray? Very probably, if you count hard and far enough, you could end up tracing your roots to Tigray. If I trace my roots to Tigray, I would be a very proud ‘Agame’.

            Tigray is not some kind of Mumbo Jumbo L-a-n-d, it was the centre of the Axumite civilization.

            Have you heard of one Hungarian far-R!ght activist who was cursing the Jooo!s day and night, blaming them for everything from draught to the tsunami in Indonesia? He had the shock of his life and almost a heart attack when he discovered his great grandfather was from the tribe. You never know what hides inside your family’s closet.

          • Desbele

            Selam Saay,
            And the Great Lakes? That also was a play next with 29 Eritreans losing their life.

          • saay7

            Selamat Desbele:

            I guess for that we will have to wait for the book of Ambassador Menkorios, who was Eritrea’s “Special Envoy” to the Great Lakes at the time. Of course, someone will have to convince him to write it because he had an illustrious career.

            saay

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam saay7

            “1998: Starts war with Ethiopia. (Play Again!)”

            “2000: Ends in military defeat for Eritrea. (Game Over!)”

            Please explain to me how Eritrea started the 1998 war? And while at it, could you please also explain to me, how the 1998 Ethio-Eritrean war was ended with Eritrean military defeat?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Paulos

            Selam Semere Tesfai,

            Did you know that, Earth is not flat? In Euclidean geometry, we are told that, a triangle adds up to 180 degrees. But if you were to draw a triangle on a sphere or a hyperbola or a parabola, a triangle adds up either to greater than 180 or less than 180 degrees. It makes sense, doesn’t it?

            Let’s push the argument a bit further. We have the three dimensional space we live in and if you were to draw an imaginary triangle on it, would it be exactly 180 degrees or greater or less? That certainly is a difficult question. But once upon a time, a clever guy like you as in Einstein came up with an idea and said that, the space we live in, in fact, is curved so much so that it appears to us as gravity. Again, if it is curved, the question is, what makes it curved? It turned out that, all the stuff in it as in your bed, chair, car and dog house makes it curved and in a larger scale, all the heavenly bodies makes it curved. But the fact that all the stuff in it are equally spread across the space, the space is proportional to the spread of the stuff in it and it appears to us as the Euclidean geometry where the angles in the triangle add up to exactly 180 degrees. Point being, the flatness is an illusion when the reality dictates it is greater than 180 degrees. Illusion or reality!

    • Paulos

      Selam Gheteb,

      That certainly is a success on the diplomatic front. And this is how Abay Asmerom put the home front success in his tweeter feed, “The good thing about not having an internet access in Eritrea incentives people to take a long walk instead and live an organic life as well.” Of course, I paraphrased the tweet. That certainly is a success story of a 21st century nation.

      • saay7

        Paulos:

        Ghidewon is tweeting pictures of Eritrea as he does his “zura n’hagerka.” Every time he posts a picture of an Eritrean landscape (for example, he did one of Adi Keyh) I want to send him an image of all the prisons in the area, just to keep it “fair and balanced.”

        saay

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Gheteb,

      Are you kidding? Whom do you want to dupe by such kind of news? Can you tell us who are your target? In civilized and respected countries diplomatic visits are normal and daily they receive diplomats. I see, you have brought it in the front page because it is unnatural events in the country where your boss dewels. I guess it is the first time you see a white person with blue eyes and blonde hair. If you get chance, Mr. Gheteb, come as closer as you can and try to touch them. It will be a good experience and historical moments that you will narrate the rest of your life to your grandchildren.

      I don’t think the guy with the unpolished shoes attracts them much, but there is business and he should receive some instructions from his bosses either from Ethiopia or Saudi Arabia. Saudi government have sent her foreign minister which means no respect. If they respect Isaias and value him high the king or his son would have visited him. Your boss,Mr. Gheteb, is simply an errand boy.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam dear all,

    Some of us took notice of what Hayat Adem posted early today about whereabouts of Wedi Efrem et al. Now, I am reading a shared piece of news that the man and several have been detained. The piece says that a rift has erupted between the boss and some of his generals. Any one got a note of that sort?

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Ismail AA, I personally do not have any info about this issue; but there is intense diplomatic activity going on: the foreign affairs duo have been to Saudi Arabia meeting with the foreign minister there, and today, the same duo have met with Ethiopian delegation comprising of Lemma and the foreign affairs minister in Asmara. Why in such a hurry?

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Abraham,
        Thanks for your input. I just jotted a few things under saay’s entry. I would like to refer to those line if you wish to.

  • Blink

    Dear Girmay
    You have a point but don’t you think that we should question our self complimentary activists approach to our problems? I mean we lost to PFDJ while the international community was at our disposal plus regional support and put the man power the opposition could have on their belt in to consideration, if they were smart enough to care about Eritreans the sky was the limit yet we were left to be a guests in our own issues . Now there are people who has a kind of psychotic sense not to criticize the opposition leadership and what they wanted to tell us was like” Issaias and many other things. Listen the Eritrean people are not dummies they know what is good for them and to be accuser and judging while sitting in the West is simply not the way to go. We need a new approach that will identify our failure and our positive experience. We are tired of 140 characters of twitter and their smug face.

  • Selam All,

    Lidetu Ayalew delivered an unexpected and a very informative speech on nation building in tplf forum in mekelle. I came across the video by chance. I wish those interested, especially ethiopians, watch the video and listen to what he had to say. Very interesting really.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Horizon,
      I did also listen to the speech. But do you know whether he was invited or took a kind of good will initiative (I mean under current circumstances). I thought I heard him say የተሰጠኝ ኣርእስት.

      • Selam Ismail AA,

        I thought he was invited by the organization to speak at the forum. He had to apologize he could not speak in tigrigna like pm Abiy.

        Don’t you think that it was a very bold speech?

        He was applauded very often by the young members of the tplf, although the bigwigs did not seem to like the things they were being told in their face. Some had stern face, others smiled in bewilderment.

        He told them to give the baton to the young runners beneath 50 yrs old. They are afraid to do so, because they feel the young are not ready. Even then, he told them that it is because they have failed to do what others in the eprdf have done, bring the young into their parties.

        In general, he heaped a lot of responsibility on tplf for what is happening today in ethiopia, although he acknowledged the economic development, while he stressed that it was not enough by itself to create a united country. They were breaking up the country by emphasizing on ethnic politics and not on ethiopian unity, which is not opposed to the rights of ethiopian ethnic groups.

        He tackled a lot of topics. It is very extensive and very eye-opening. One must listen to the whole video of about 30 mins.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam horizon
          It looks like u agree with snitch lidetu, but how come ur comment never reflect like the idea , the one that u agreed with lidetu?

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Horizon and Fanti,

          You’re spot on regarding his candid way of dealing with issues. He raised a lot of substantial matters the current developments can permit him to say. His acceptance to go there and use that platform to say what he said is bold, and could be useful to himself as aspiring politician and the host. By the way, I followed his prowess in expressing his view from the debates in parliament as loyal opposition.

          This time around, he actually might have been persuaded by ulterior motives one of which might have been an exercise to suggest himself politically as bridge between TPLF and the Amhara parties. The Tigrai perception of the current Amhara animosity toward them is transient and might not go beyond marriage of convenience.

          I am saying this because recently I have listened to sporadic, but not inconceivable notions the ongoing political posturing might have triggered. One of them is a latent, but yet not reached the topical sphere, is an issue some elements among the elites in Tigrai occasionally talk about when assessing the emerging political-governance landscape in Ethiopia, namely, interpreting the developments in terms of constellation of Oromo pioneered Cushite resurgence to supplant the traditional Orthodox Christian Axumite Habesha establishment anchored on Amhara-Tigrian alliance. I do not know how many of you took notice of such views, and would love your take on this.

          • Selam Ismail AA,

            Until now, i was not aware of this and i cannot really say anything. I hope other ethiopians could help here.
            Thanks.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Horizon,

      That is old news*. hahaha!

      Here is a fresh one:
      ES president Abdi Mohammed Omar (Abdi Illey) has resigned.
      He is replaced by Ahmad Abdi (water minister or finance minister or health minister).
      Abdi Illey will remain chairman of the party (ESPDP).

      * I don’t know why Lidetu’s ideas are not concidered seriously by th epowers that be, but his outlook has always been intriguing, patriotic, and honest.

      • Blink

        Dear Fanti
        Do you mean Abdi illy is removed from his post ? I mean resignation means he did it for the good of the people by himself.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam blink,

          They said that after some discussion with his government officials, he resigned for the sake of peace. It is also believed that the federal forces were there by his request because the disturbance was beyond his forces could handle.

          So, it is all rumors, but there is some chance that he may not have been the target in the first place. If the first rumor is the correct one then he is trying to street-smart his way out of the debacle.

          Too many rumors but too few facts.

  • haileTG

    Selam Awatista,

    On an unrelated report “Col. Debesai called on the members of the 32nd round of the national service to take advantage of the promising peace prospect prevailing in the region and properly use the opportunities provided.” reports Shabait. What can this possibly mean?? What has changed in Eritrea for them to”properly use” and “take advantage of”? ነያ’ኻ በሎ should be their response 🙂

    • saay7

      Hey Hailat:

      It’s good to have you back. So, this is what I saw and you can add it to the list of what “properly use the opportunities provided” means:

      1. Ethiopian TV had part 2 of its documentary in Eritrea. It went to Massawa and interviewed, among others, one Eritrean who says he feels like he is newly created; another Eritrean who says that President Isaias and Prime Minister Abiy brought about our freedom and now work awaits us;

      2. Mohammed Johar addressed Ethiopians at the millennium hall and said that its great that the youth were able to defy the skeptics who said a government can’t be overgrown by rock-throwers, you were able to do what has never been done in Ethiopia but now the Ferenj are saying you can overthrown governments but can’t build things: they are saying this because they have contempt for you, prove them wrong, make me proud and now leave police work to the police.

      I hear he is going to Mekele next with his message of peace and reconciliation.

      So, the difference my friend, is in Eritrea, the same people who terrorized and exiled the people are the messengers of peace whereas in Ethiopia the new message is delivered by new messengers.

      And congratulations to you and all of us that PM Abiy and President Isaias brought our independence.

      saay

      • Blink

        Dear saay
        It shows Johar is better than all Eritrean opposition media activists who put their energy on hate not on substance. Eritrean subway writers of the opposition spent a great amount of their time bashing Eritrean women as koboro janckies and here we are . It was just yesterday that Eritrean activists were laughing at Johar and Esat guys . Look who is laughing 😆 .

        • haileTG

          Hey Blink,

          Thanks for the “who is having the last laugh” angle you brought. I really like to compare and contrast, it is at the engine of true introspection. Let’s compare the achievement of Ethio activists vs. Eritrean activists. Despite the most inhospitable, isolated and heart breaking terrain that Eritrean activists were faced with over the years, the managed to have all of IA/PFDJ crimes to be meticulously be narrated, documented and internationally legalized through years of SR and CoI lead UN investigations. Such is a legacy not that for the current struggle for change in Eritrea but an important tool of learning for generations of Eritreans to come. It is a well prepared, extensive and expansive work that will ensure IA/PFDJ will never be able to alter in any shape or form. A success whose true value will only appreciate in time. A par to the achievements of the yesteryear era of Eritrean heroes of Nadew and Fenqil. They did this under the most of inhospitable situation of a cordoned off state of abuse and violence. Borrowing from my friend Mahmuday, no amount of yada yada yada from IA/PFDJ crew would change a minuscule part of this recorded history of Eritrea under their grip.

          Now how does Ethio activism better that?? Your move…

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Haile TG,

            I can add to what you wrote hitting the nail where it should. If one were to compare the oppositions of both countries in exile or even inside, it would be found that the Ethiopian side to be hopelessly divided and congested by warm chair propagandists than the Eritrean counterpart. Anyone who followed their activities would not miss to assess their condition to other than this. The reasons that triggered the current events in Ethiopia are more of the making of the coalition components managemental missteps that provoked supply and demand issues and lopsided distribution plagued by cronyism and abuse of power rather being the exploits the organized opposition home front or diaspora. Sure, some of them were quick to jump on the train of change that the EPRDF under the new team of leaders had launched under duress of its own weight.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Ismail, Aman and Haile Z,

            The word condemnation as an opposite of eulogy may work as long as the time frame isn’t confused (i.e. after one is no more). IA and his accomplice have this living document to glean into what will be read and discussed about them long after their passing. Even the recent Akria events were added in the latest edition. Of course, this is a one way street, as things can only be added to it but nothing can ever be taken away. Considering what saay said about the withholding of the sealed envelop, Eritreans were so lucky that something didn’t happen to impede the completion of that work back then. That would have been a devastating defeat. Today, Eritreans stand tall knowing full well that their tormentors have read their own ‘condemning eulogy’ way before their funeral. I think Eritrean activists deserve great credit for that!

          • saay7

            Selamat HaileTG:

            The United States has saved the Eritrean regime TWICE, which is ironic given all the whining Isaias does about “hegemons”, etc:

            1. The 2009 sanctions had a clause called on travel ban and asset freeze on “individuals, including but not limited to the Eritrean political and military leadership.” The US intervened and the Yemanes were able to travel to the US and Europe freely;

            2. The Commission of Inquiry concluded that “particular individuals, including officials at the highest levels of the State and the PFDJ, and commanding officers, bear responsibility for crimes against humanity and other gross human rights violations. In order to assist future accountability mechanisms, the Commission compiled files on a number of individuals it has reasonable grounds to believe bear responsibility for the crimes it has documented. These files include the names of suspects, information about the potential suspect’s position and a summary of evidence compiled by the Commission relating to the potential suspect.” Yet, at the last minute, the US said that for the CoI to reach that conclusion was “not politically sophisticated” and it short-circuited the process.

            But, like you said, this list is now kept for posterity and any truth & reconciliation effort cannot proceed without the first half: truth-telling. And all the campaigns to demonize Human Rights Council, Commission of Inquiry, Special Rapporteur are from two groups of people: those who may believe the report but resent any “foreign” power “owning our issue”; those who may believe the report and know that this will make those accused fight to death because they have nothing to lose. But I doubt anybody actually doubts the veracity of the claims as everyone has family members in Eritrea and, as CoI concluded, they do not spare even the “supporters” of the government.

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Selam saay7,
            May I add two more, if I may. The Woyanes saved Isayas (or rather helped him to be where he is now) in 1980-82 and second time (real rescue thank to Meles which the Woyanes might now be regreting) i n 2000 when their forces passed Barentu and Senafe.

          • Alfaromeo

            Sealamat
            i was in that war, and if it was not for brave men and women in the front your mentioning from your comfy seat, our mothers,sisters and fathers would have been dead by now. shame on you to say such thoughtless , not far sighted comment.

            one more thing, i read most of the coments although i dont write most of the time. most of the time you blame th opposition day in and day out, DIA started with ten men, those of you who bash the opposition here are more than ten, why not start one starting from blink…mlink all the way to…..huh?

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Alfaromeo,

            I can understand your sentiments. I do also share them with you. Young men and women in their thousands had spilt their blood for patriotic reason they had to endorse – just as some of us did when people like me also answered the national call for independence that we thought was essential precursor to liberation that should have prevented the need for people like you to go to war and risk your lives.

            Our cause then was just; the cause you and me are discussing now “cause” a power hungry egoistic man had concocted for reasons that should not have measured to going to war that consumed 19,000 lives which the culprit had admitted. Add to this the thousands wounded, missing in action, careers and opportunities for building families wasted, youth perished in deserts and seas and wastage of decades of the country’s future. Now, the man is telling us there is no need to demarcate the border which was raison de etre for going to war.

            Dear Alfaromeo, the points I mentioned are not idle chatters from a man warming “confy seat” as you wrote. They are true until you prove them otherwise. And, please stay not read only, but to write your thoughts because I and others can benefit especially from our youth like you.

          • saay7

            Ismailom:

            Well, let’s not go there as I disagree with you on both counts:)

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Hayak Allah saay,

            I got your point. What I wrote might not be suitable for time we are dealing with. You know, some times I get swayed by memories of my student days in lecture halls.

          • Citizen

            Saay,
            Can you explain why you disagree with the two points Ismail mentioned?

          • saay7

            Citizen:

            I can, but do I have to? 🙂

            saay

          • Citizen

            Saay,
            Yes, because you have to back up your claim and also because you have to educate us who believe otherwise.

          • saay7

            Citizen:

            I understand. For now, may I ask we leave at difference of opinion and conclusion? Both are my (Eritrea’s civil war, Eritrea’s war with Ethiopia) are my least favorite subjects. Specially the former.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Citizen,

            If you’re a diligent student which I suspect you’re, dig through Awate archives and you will find your answer.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            We had missed these kinds of arguments from your side, in your absence. Well said brother.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi HTG,
            If I may interject here.
            Thanks to the Eritrean activists, most DIA crimes will be kept on record for generetions to come. The killing of the walking files, as someone calls them, (the prison guards), and the dying of age or accident(?) of the many idiots that were executing DIA criminal orders will not hide his secrets. ዘይተነግረ እምበር ዘይተገብረስ የለን ድዩ ዝበሃል? ናይ ኢሳያስ ግን ሳላ ኤርትራውያን ደለየቲ ፍትሒ፤ ዘይተንግረ ኣይከህሉን ኢዩ::
            The light of public eye will focus on his dark soul.

          • Natom Habom

            selam Haile
            If you call the inquiry of that corrupt woman that wanted to bring
            regime change for opposition you must be fool
            that inquiry have nothing to do with human right condition in Eritrea
            the objective was to vilify ,demonize ,with unsubstantiated revelation from nameless ,formless individual ,
            if really they care for human right ,well in Ethiopia at that time the were innocent people dying by hundreds in day light ,they did the opposite by granting them more fund even some western head of state visit them to ask how they can help ,
            so this why the international community rejected it , in that file there is nothing believe me she fail to proof with solid evidence for what she claim, sheila lost.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi NH,

            Repeat what you said to yourself.
            No one is fool to entertain it.
            If it is lies, good for you sleep well.

          • Natom Habom

            Dear haile
            that what am saying ,this the kind of accusation we have
            people with empty bravado keep bringing the dead inquiry
            as if it was real ,tplf ordered it as gift to Eritrea collapse with of dollars Eritrea did better she destroy him within ,

          • Blink

            Dear Haile TG
            I thought all the COI and other UN sanction was done by others rather than the known subway activists .
            I still believe the COI is worthless if the Eritreans couldn’t move the ladder to a better angle . Performance must be measured by the intended purpose. we can also see how we lost many chances to advance the Eritreans aspirations even though we have 18 years training time .we never owned our cause . What all these you mentioned are a learning experience for the next generation on how not to screw up things .I don’t see any result in any shape of form that can be said or compared to Nadew or Fenkil and I think comparing COI or sanction to such heroism of Eritreans against Dergi is highly offensive. These who think COI as Nadew has seriously lost the weight Eritreans put to the heroes of Nadew , may be a little less self compliment is need sir . Here is one thing Haile the great , A young frog was zooming around a grazing area suddenly this young frog saw an elephant who is extremely big , when he come back to his mother, he told everything about the size of the Elephant. His mother tried the unthinkable and she tried to out large the elephant.,, I am sure you know the story so I don’t need to go on.

            Some of The Ethiopian diaspora opposition left their university work and go in to bushes that they never have experience while our selfish self complimented activities end up bullying Eritrean historic achievement as “ shiftas “ . Remember I am not accusing anyone in here but just the general observation.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba Blink,

            What happens when one meets truth? Silence. Not as in silence with nothing else to say but more of like a sense you get when you’ve arrive at your destination. No more anticipation, no more expectation, no questions to ask about it. We had a practical demonstration of that with what happened at the SEMG sanctions hearing recently. There was so much anticipation, so much premature celebration, so much elelele…then reality hit home. The sanctions had still small snag and the Djibouti case had to be handled first. No more TPLF, no more opposition, no more Ethio-Eritrea war/peace, no more this or that. All fell silent.

            Such is the nature of meeting truth face to face. When things take a legal and official course, all aspects need to be addressed. No amount of blaming the woman, the cat, the door, the roof…will do. Such moment will come to pass as it relates to the CoI. BTW CoI is not some concept to be agreed or disagreed with as you well know. It is formal submissions of grievances that have taken a legal form. Thus at the end of all, there is nothing that could be done in the matter of fully addressing it, except to do so.

            Col. Mengistu belittled Nadew as a mere noise by few bandits who attacked a remote village called Afabet and run away. There was claps and ululations from his followers much like PFDJ followers do with the colossal loss they suffered diplomatically for long to come. Yet it didn’t lessen the ramifications to Derg’s army then and it won’t lessen the real implications of these serious allegations for IA/PFDJ now.

            I suggest to really look at it with a sober and level headed rational. It won’t go away, it is permanent and it is instructive for everyone to learn about the situation in Eritrea. Some call it a complicating factor, I understand that.

            One impressive aspect of Eritrean activist’s work there was that despite it being a well known fact, where any Eritrean initiative for justice is quickly normally infiltrated and thwarted before maturing, this one was very unique in the way it avoided such derailment in process. It was worked on doggedly till final fruition. May be that is why as saay said, some felt frustrated due to “external forces” taking over. If it wasn’t for the latter’s involvement, IA/PFDJ would have had the last laugh by now. 🙂

          • saay7

            Selamat Hailat:

            When IA told Abiy “you are our representative, you lead us” in Addis Abeba, he was also thinking about sanctions. When the Sanctions Committee Chair Kairat Umarov (Kazakhistan) toured the Horn of Africa, he was able to visit Somalia, Djibouti, Ethiopia but not Eritrea. IA said no, same way he had said no to the Monitoring Grouop on Somalia & Eritrea (SEMG.). Abiy had to apologize on behalf of Isaias for not hosting him and for his Charge d’Affaires ignoring his letter.

            In yet another example of miscalculation, Isaias had thought that the peace treaty with Ethiopia would automatically result in lifting of sanction. After all, even the UN Secretary General had said that. Ethiopia had called for its lifting, so had Somalia. The president of the security council strongly indicated he wants that. But, 9 years after getting sanctioned, not only is the tortoise not understanding why (or pretending not to know) but has no idea how to get out, and has to “delegate” a head of state to “lead us.” In the end, if the sanctions are to be lifted, it will be like an exhausted teacher passing a slow student out of pity, not merit.

            saay

          • haileTG

            Hey saay,

            If I must be honest, it is very difficult not to believe that IA does not have interest in allowing and maintaining the sanctions to remain. His performances are somewhat suspect and I get a nagging suspicion that may be Blink is right and IA is having the last laugh in dragging us this far.

            Take for example what happened during the last UNSC hearing of the SEMG reports. The Somalian rep talked about the progress his govt. is making. He proposed a way out by asking the UN to at least drop two of the sanctions areas to allow for boosting his new govt’s security infrastructure. He lamented that the progress his govt. is making aren’t acknowledged enough but the shortcomings are disproportionately highlighted. Pretty standard diplomatic approach.

            Then comes the Eritrean rep. Insults the UN and accuses it of causing the instability in the region for the past decade. Issues ultimatum to the effect that if the UN doesn’t comply to his demands, it will be considered as anti-peace and promoter of regional spoilers. To back him up, Asmara issues a press release saying that lifting sanctions isn’t even the issue but instead holding the UN to account for “illegally imposing sanctions” in the first place. Sure enough, intl. media reports highlighted Eritrea’s accusation of the UN afterwards.

            My PFDJ leaning friend was so pissed with his Kbur Presidente after I calmly explained the situation to him. My friend finds it disappointing that no Mekete seminar is planned soon for him to ask his pressing question of the where about of the Final & Binding stuff. He thinks that if Ethiopia returns to Assab without the border demarcation and with Eritrea under arms embargo, should the former change its mind on the question of Assab, we’ll be screwed. Well I told him that PMMZ had long ago agreed to piecemeal demarcation, i.e the the eastern sector first while the western being negotiated, but IA had refused. So, my friend started to get really agitated by all these, and for the first time I heard him calling IA some unflattering names…haha. Alas, no one knows if IA not playing us for fools…

          • saay7

            Selamat HaileTG:

            I differ with my comrades who think that IA wants sanctions, just as I did with those who said he doesn’t want the border dispute settled. He just happens to be the world’s worst diplomat and problem solver. I think his view is if you leave things alone, you can outlast outlive anything. (Wikileaks: at 65 yrs old, IA told visiting parliamentarians he will live another 50 years.

            He is also a moral scold, with a huge blind spot for his moral transgressions.

            I have no doubt in my mind that this whole honeymoon with Ethiopia will end very badly. Isaias is a man of extremes: he either loves you or hates you. And when things go south he will say his favorite sentence “we never made a mistake” whereas his supporters will sing their favorite song “tegerihna.”

            There is also a very large constituency for amnesia. We don’t have our border demarcated when we have the most opportune time to do it. We are inviting Ethiopia (the new Ethiopia with a reconstituted Navy) to Asab and Massawa, nobody knows any of the treaties that are being signed, “Eritrean Airlines” basically a white rented plane with the word “Eritrean” on it and with Isaias personal contrabandist as its CEO began its maiden flight to Ethiopia, there are multiple deep pocket folk (UAE and Saudi Arabia) courting both Eritrea and Ethiopia; Ethiopia will start supplying electricity to Eritrea within 6 months….. Things are going at warp speed, uncharacteristic for a tortoise and with zero transparency.

            And your PFDJ-leaning friend? Check with him in a month and he will be singing a different song. There is just no check on the man; he won’t listen to us, and his fans get all tongue tied and won’t express themselves.

            saay

          • Mez

            Good day Saay,

            You said: “…this whole honeymoon with Ethiopia will end very badly.”

            This is a staggering statement.

            What would be the key indicators showing this way?

            Thanks

          • saay7

            Selamat Mez:

            For the same reason people who attended Elizabeth Taylor’s wedding said “it would not last.” She was not into marriages, and PFDJ is not into sustained relationships.

            In short, the same people that were in charge of Eritrea during the past 27 years (war and uneasy relations with Sudan; war with Ethiopia; war with Yemen: war with Djibouti; war of words with Saudi Arabia, with Qatar…my God, even broken off relations with Alexandria RE Orthodox Tewahdo Church) are in charge of Eritrea now.

            saay

          • Mez

            Dear Saay,

            1) In case of Lady Tayler she may do what she wants, age is on her side.

            2) in case of PIA/PFDJ they tried a lot of ideologies and unusual ways of doing state business within and outside their territory:

            2.1) See the theory of: “self sufficiency”, “we know it all”, the fiscal policy (in the last two years),

            2.2) the devastating and monolithic, overly centralized “communist style ” human resource and business control and micro management,

            2.3) The different “war or war like situations” around Eritrea,

            3) Letting young Eritrean give service to the state with mostly “underpayment”.

            The above are all spent bullets. They can’t be used for Eritrean contemporary government and the challenges ahead.

            The peace deal dividend (with Ethiopia):
            a) no ideological differences with pmaaa &co.,
            b) save immediate future military hardware purchase, a lot of money,
            c) the more peace prevails FDI will follow soon,
            d) pia tried every trick, now he and his team are more matured than ever before.
            e) the two gcc countries don’t want him to spinout again and become a satellite of other adversary countries,
            f) cheap electricity, this partially for Ethiopian own port facility sake,
            g) huge Ethiopian (and by extension igad) market,
            g) huge manpower pool for xxl size projects,
            h) port service and transit fee in the billions of us dollars a year, (this is a proven yield by Djibouti),
            i) being part and parcel of us satellite state with a potential us military base relocation from Djibouti to south of massawa.

            The list continues.

            In short, I don’t see “…will end very badly” situation in the making. Not easy to understand your reasoning of the contemporary situation.

            Thanks

          • saay7

            Selamat Mez:

            Not that it matters but Elizabeth Taylor is dead. She was married 8 times to 7 husbands.

            All your statements make the assumption that IA and his government have learned their lessons and are ready to turn a new page.

            All my statements assume otherwise. IA and his team actually believe that they did everything right, the world is finally coming to its sense and bending to their will. That being the case, they don’t gave a feeling of remorse or reflection but triumphant vindication. And people who are feeling triumphant and vindicated don’t change their ways but proceed with their ንኺድ ጥራይ

            saay

          • Mez

            Dear Saay,
            I can understand your perspective very well:
            1) the pia/pfdj government knows no accountability to its people, no body knows success/failure ratio of various undertakings by them–simply every thing is a success because it was done by them.

            2) The least intrusion of scientific thinking in our society is the biggest asset to pia and his group.

            3) ironically, the underdevelopment and subsistence nature of the prevailing majority people in the country helped pia to create such a “decades long” underpayment of peoples work….

          • saay7

            Selam Mez:

            History is not our friend here, Mez. Not the history of IA, not the history of PFDJ, and not the history of dictators. If you can find a precedent for it–a dictator who, without external pressure (like US with South Korea just before it hosted the Olympics), or war (Mozambique), or the deafening noise of conscience (Tanzania), there are no precedents for a dictator reforming himself.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            You have said: “pia tried every trick, now he and his team are matured than ever before.” How did you come to that conclusion? If it is just from the recent foreign sponsored peace agreement with Ethiopia, then (a) there is no any guarantee that the peace agreement will evolve in to a lasting peace between the two countries (b) We are always reminded that when he is in trouble, he comes to any sort of agreements, in order (i) to find a breathing room to consolidate his power (ii) to calm his worried colleagues and his subject until his next ploy (iii) to strategize his fight that helps him to attain his dream (iv) those kind of agreements helps him to do his ugly in house human clearances. (c) it is not of immaturity, rather he understood that the kind of power he is looking can only survive and thrive through wars and propaganda of wars. And hence when he sees he is losing the war, he goes to all sorts of agreements to rehabilitate his power strength.

            So Mez I saw you in many instances, that you evaluate political situations by what you wish to see it happen, and not by the characters of the actors and their role in past history as well as their set up ambitions.

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            Sorry for being late on the follow up of my part.

            I have to admit, you got me on my weak side; When I say pia and co. are evolved and mature, I have really nothing to show something yet–as far as internal politics is concerned.

            My logic of thought is as follows:

            1) after the independance the relationship with a) tplf specially, b) Ethiopia in general were very important factors in shaping various Eritrean policies,

            2) Ethiopia was all the time heavily dependant on Asab, and also Massawa for commerce and logistics. And now too is.

            3) the 1998/2000 war heavily reshaped the power configuration in Eritrea by creating an internal crisis. It badly damaged pfdj, created the foundation for one man government on Eritrea.

            4) if you see the current peace engagement closely, it can’t coexist with the policies and practices inside eritrea like underpaid labour, bidding system, court arbitration, labour mobility, fiscal /business practices to mention few.

            5) my pivotal point is: most existing internal policies of the government in Asmara are in direct conflict with the intent and spirit of the peace process with Ethiopia. Now a) if the Eritrean government really mean peace, then every one knows he most likely has to follow approximately a similar path to pmaaa; b) if it mean a facade decoration, then we have to be ready for a violent political earthquake down the road–within a year or two.

            6) in addition to the above, one may want to account the regional and global factors and trends too. At least China’s fdi and the military bases in Djibouti.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mez,

            Now I agree. Thanks

          • Mez

            Dear Amanuel H,

            Great conversation.

            Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hi MEZ; You forgot one major, major, major catalyst for things that
            will never be the same. The Eritrean youth were under extreme predicaments in the past 20 years. I do believe they knew the problem and the short coming of the government but they had two choices, fight or flight. They can’t fight because they believe Eritrea was wronged and the government was fighting to right the wrong
            and they can’t fight the government at the same time they can’t see living the live they imagined to live for themselves, so, they had to leave the country. Now, everything changed. The government has no reasons to do what they to do. The youth will not leave the country, one; they will fight to right the wrong and
            even if they leave the country, there is no single country will extend them asylum i.e. their only choice to stay put and right the wrong. This not only effect for Eritrea but the whole horn of Africa. The youth of the horn Africa played very well in the name of Eritrea and the government of Eritrea. Once the youth is stayed put, they turn the hit to the government and the governments have no choice
            but comply and respect the wish of the people. So, when the youth stays in Eritrea, Eritrea will change for good and it will never be the same. The main reason the government of Eritrea stayed this long is because the youth was leaving for the above reasons and there was no pressure applied for a change. Now, it is different and will never be the same.

          • Mez

            Dear Nitric,

            You are correct.

            Thanks

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Mez,

            One of the key indicators is a shifta/mafia with international certificates and his crimes against humanity. It never happened and will never happen again in the future, a famous criminal to be a peace man. You can ask any kid, Mr. Mez: Does a criminal become a peace man? The answer by the uncontaminated kid will definitely be a big NO.

          • Mez

            Dear Hameed A,

            The first accord to end the WWII was signed between the Russian (ussr) and Nazi Generals. So nothing new my friend. In whatever possible way, peace shall be nurtured. Peace accord is the first baby-step towards our future.

            Thanks

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Mez,

            Peace should be nursed, but not on the expenses of others. Peace treaties were signed in WWII and all should abide by the convention. I think Nazis were punished not crowned as Dr. Abie Ahmed has done with Isaias. PMAAA has honored Isaias for his crimes against Eritreans.

          • Mez

            Hi Hamid A,

            With your statement you are streeping off the nationhood of Eritrea. Very unwise.

            Thanks

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Mez,

            The international community sanctions and fights rogue rulers. It is senseless to reward a criminal though you know him better than any remote country. It is shame to pant after your interests only. It is degrading for elected PM to sign pacts with not elected and distinguished criminal. I am afraid a guy with such scramble will lead Ethiopia to crisis. We have to remember, PMAA has joined the axis of evil and this has a big question mark in future situation of Ethiopia.

          • Blink

            Dear Haile the great
            I still don’t see anything that can help Eritreans in this so called document of the century by some people around. The fact is sir Eritreans really do not even know what exactly is the use of this . According to UN estimates, around 35,000 people have been killed there since 2003 and a further 300,000 have died from hunger and disease and some 2.7 million were displaced and the owner of this crime happens to be Omar Al bashir .Not only that in The UN Security Council votes to refer those accused of war crimes in Darfur to the International Criminal Court (ICC), based in The Hague , yet here we are on the same boat riding . Now guess what’s the value of COI ? Despite the complicated situation we are in COI can’t and will not be in line to help Eritreans. Now check what is happening in Sudan and bring July 14, 2008 – Moreno-Ocampo asks judges for an arrest warrant for Omar al-Bashir, the Sudanese president, on crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes against the non-Arab ethnic groups in Darfur, ahm is that last word . Now COI documentaries are all not immune to any developmening stories of our people and it will not matter what it says . What happens on the ground out weigh what happen in to this COI . Now we can all agree the Ethiopian diaspora were more productive than our subway work unless you want to argue for the sake of it you will choose another time .

      • David Samson

        Selamat SAAY,

        I also watch Johar’s clips. It reminds me of Petros Solomon’s similar speech he made after he returned from Singapore’s trip in the early 90s.

        Johar is used to write articles on Ethiomedia. I think he is an Economist by profession. He seems to have learned all the theories of state building from A-Z by heart. He was zigzagging from French assimilation to Singapore via India. He seems to do talk the taking, but can he walk the walking?

        When Africans’ politicians ascend to power, their favourite past time is to visit one of the tiger’s countries.

        I am relived not seeing Switzerland on their shopping list; it used to be the top menu on federalist’s cart.

        Johar asserted that Ethiopia is not endowed with natural resources. Its biggest asset is its people (Sound similar to Petro’s speech). He argued that a country with 80 different ethnic groups is a blessing. In fact, he wanted to add the Arabs in to the mix. Then, came the next clip by Tamag Beyene. “You can’t have a country with 80 passports”, he lamented.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam david
          Do u know a lot of people spacially musims in wallo, jema. Harare have arab family member, am talking about grandpa, grandma or great grandpas…, not history but actual family member.
          2, he(johar) didn’t say just arab but he said China too.

          • David Samson

            Selam TA,
            Not I know of. I had posted a question about Oromos on another thread. I do not know they have an Arab mix. They are ‘Cushitic’. I heard about ‘Adere’ history. Some people believed they migrated from present day Eritrea. The name ‘Adere comes form Tigrigna means ‘Hade riA’ – amharic,’Ande Ayehu’.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam David,

            Teodros is an illiterate fool. He is probably a low grade Derg cadre on a round the clock assignment to troll people on this forum.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            U r simply pathetic loser .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            What your thick skull failed to grasp is that the issue at hand is not about the marriage relation Random Oromos have with some Arabs in relatively recent times, but the ancestry of THE ENTIRE Oromo ETHNIC GROUP.

            As an ethnic group, the Oromo (Cushitic) do not have Arab (Semitic) ancestry.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I know u r pathetic idio but reread what he(divide) said about Jahar and tamagn.
            That is where i was talking about.
            I know u guys r nonesense and can’t think out side of tg, dirk. Faking and so on .
            Just be nonsense with ur nonsense group there.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            Few years ago, we used to debate with peasants. Now, it has become even worse, we are trying hard to explain matters to donkeys like you.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I know am right u r idiot.
            If i am donkey, what r u?
            Starved inferior donkey.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            Tell me, how many villages have you liberated? You cannot be a Somali, because they have got the guts and they can fight. It is highly likely that were/are a supporter of the the Katikala drunk criminal Derg who was murdering teenage kids.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I know why u say derg derg so many times, it is not because u mad at derg criminality ,it is because it rehabilitat ur inferiority complex.
            U can’t love tplf ( more criminal) and hate derg( another criminal). It don’t go together.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            Tell me what you were doing during the Derg? What was your political affiliation?

            I remember you well in Addis Ababa, when you threw away your army/militia uniform to hide under the bed when the EPLF and TPLF arrived in town.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I was 15 and i was at a place called mohandessin.
            Am sure u were starved to death at that time or morning some of ur family death because of starvation.
            Like i told u be nonsense with ur group there.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            Where is this place you called “mohandessin”?

            Derg rule lasted almost 17 years, tell me what you were doing during this time? What was your political affiliation?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I told u eco, i was 15 . don’t u think that tells everything? Stupid.
            U make awate looks like tigrai online or mekele.
            Be nonsense there with ur group.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Teodros,

            You are refusing to answer, there must be something to hide.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Teddy: I can’t help but notice your back and forth with this Dush. He is from Tigray and he is going through the five stages of agony. Worst, he thinks he is smart, what a dush. don’t waste your time with TPLF thugs.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam david
            Still am not talking about axum or far history,
            Jima abajufar(the “king” in minlik and hs time in jima) was married to arab and most of the royal of jima married with arabs .
            2, do u know over 5000 egypt soldiers used to rule part of Harare and they mix up with society there and none of them returned back to egypt .
            3, do u know there was a lot arab business people used to live in wallo, gonder( even in a farm towns)
            4, turk restaurant, sanaa restaurant, ras shall restaurant and so on r “mawaleds” but u don’t understand since u don’t know nothing about tg,” dirk” starve adignh

          • David Samson

            Selam TD,
            Quoting restaurants owners and some marriages do not establish an ‘Immigration Pattern’.

            Please do not jump into labelling people based on your narrows perception as you quite often tend to do on this site.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam divide
            Am trying to show u how ethiopia and arabs r already mix society. The restaurant that i mentioned was known restaurant in addis and how the owners r proud ethiopians with some arab blood.and there r a lot of people like them.
            My point, i know Jahar is oromo activist and don’t know if he has arab blood or not but what Jahar’s idea of mixing with arab is not new.
            And it is a good thing .

        • Amde

          Selam David Simon,

          There is an interesting two part interview of Jawar Mohammed on ESAT.

          He is NOT an economist.

          Apparently he grew up in the Arsi/Hararghe border area, which he says has been a hotbed of Oromo Nationist activity for generations now, and he says his parents, uncles and grandparents were active in it.

          He was bright enough that he got a highschool scholarship to Singapore, where he says not only did he get a chance to see how Singapore worked, but also Malaysia and Indonesia as well. His observation of the three countries alone is worth the viewing. He gets asked about the Eritrean dream to be Singapore in the Horn and he says it requires being at peace with neighbors. (Big surprise).

          In any case, he did an undergrad in Stanford and Masters at Columbia in Comparative Politics. Things like how political systems are structured, their pinch points, their elites and interest groups, political strategies and so on. So he is a practitioner of his professional training. I guess his Qerro experience is worthy of a PhD if he were academically inclined, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.

          So, we have a bright guy who is temperamentally inclined to being a demagogue. But even as the Qerro revolt heated up, he has been tempering his rhetoric a bit. Hard to tell if it was to stay out of legal culpability, or if he gamed out what the end result of fanning the qerro flames would be, or if he had a series of serious conversations with certain interested parties. Maybe he is mellowing as he gets older. Personally I feel he is still more demagogue than mellow, so we should be crossing fingers and holding breaths.

          In any case, he seems to have jumped on the Ethiopiawinet-ish train. The “-ish” is because I think it is more brain than heart on his part, and as they say, the heart wants what it wants. But for thethe brain part, he is becoming exhibit A of how the Ethiopian dilemma of the periphery getting to the center is inevitably resolved by the new bosses singing the virtues of unity. Plus ca change – plus la meme chose.

          Amde

          • David Samson

            Selam Amde,
            Thanks for correction!
            I had the impression of demagogue too. He was a regular contributor at Ethiomedia. The period was well before the Qerro movement.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gash Amde,

            Just a couple of point if I may. The point you made about how the relationship of the periphery and he center are going to shape up is key to how the Etiopiawinet is going to be defined. In fact, this will be very contentious game within the Oromo political landscape. I mean how the Abij-Lemma duo are going to sell it to the larger Oromia milieu.

            I think what I heard from some talks in the past, the views of Jowar and Prof. Ezekiel Gebissa on Ethiopianism may not square with the notion Dr. Abij and Dr. Lemma are speaking about which the centralist Amhara elites could live with. Jowar and his likes may be more accommodative of the views forces such as OLF and other federalists may have. I do not know how the dynamics the current events have unleashed are going to impact how national debate for national unity will take form and pillars it’s going to rest on. Definition of federalism could become deal maker or breaker.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismael,

            It seems to me the balance of Oromo elite opinion is firmly in the staying within Ethiopia camp. It was the case even before the advent of OPDO at Arat Kilo.

            It also seems to me that there is a strong Oromo consensus to maintain the ethnic federation.

            But this sets up an interesting conundrum. The desire to have an exclusivist homeland while sitting at the throne in the center does not really work in this day and age.

            Firstly, the Oromumma narrative is useless for Oromo politicians who have national and regional aspirations. ውሀ አያሻግርም as they say. In fact, I would say it is toxic – too many communal conflicts that have been rightly or wrongly attributed to Oromos pushing people out. Despite the mislabel of Ethiopian as Amara, “Ethiopiawinnet” is a neutral narrative that has wide national appeal. Hence Lemma and Abiy’s unflinching embrace of it. Lemma for example doesn’t say “የኢትዮጵያ ህዝቦች”..but “የኢትዮጵያ ልጆች” – a seemingly innocent turn of phrase but a heresy from an EPRDF that has been trumpeting ብሄር/ብሄረሰብ/ህዝቦች for a generation. And whatever one can say about Lemma and Abiy, they are no simple idealists – they know very well how their singing the Ethiopiawinnet song will be construed among the Oromo Nationalist crowd.

            Secondly, a modern state for a multicultural society requires a hundred and one institutions to mediate the thousand and one interactions society has. Once a decision has been made to stay, then the logical next decisions are then all about how to make the staying work. It is impractical and self defeating to have national power but then hobble the very institutions of national power. Not logical. That means a strengthening of the center primarily for their own benefit. And with the political powerbase constituting a third of the population, this particular strengthening has a much better chance of being stable and enduring.

            Just as a harbinger of things to come – I had a good laugh reading an avowed Oromo nationalist (one I have known over 20 years as a rabid Ethiopia-hater mind you) on Twitter saying, “ደብረፅዮን ከፈለገ አፈር ይበትን እንጂ ኢትዮጵያ አትበተንም።”

            So, I would say right now Oromo elite for the most part are fine with Ethiopiawinnet. There is historical momentum that has been fed with unjust treatments by those at the center which makes the independence idea still popular among some, but now at the center sits unambiguously Oromo leadership.

            We could be moving from Ethiopiawinnet to Ethiopumma but the logic of a single state that is centered on the highly populated highlands of NorthEast Africa endures.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gashe Amde,

            Well-thought observations and very enlightening as always. Thank you. You’re spot on when you stated that being in power and entertaining ideas that lead to its dispersal cannot synthesize with the essence of power and its deployment. The Oromo segment of the population could have more incentives in broader national unity and socio-ethnic cohesion than satisfying local and circumscribed sentiments. Perhaps one could speculate that Ethiopumma and the hither understood notions of Ethiopiawinnet could accommodate one another by insertions. I am insinuating, for example, the direction and settlement the debate regarding the future of the capital and the working language(s).

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde, Saay and all,

            I did not see this discussion until now. I read Jawar interview with BBC Amharic I think, where he was describing the Qerro movement.

            When I saw the hand crossing of the Qerro, it looked too perfect to be none organized movement. It was classic non violent resistance and it seems that he is indicating that he is behind it.

            Based on what saays comments of his speech, it seems to align all.

            Berhe

        • saay7

          Selam David:

          My autocorrect keeps changing his name to Johar but it’s Jowar:)

          I don’t know about his training but in his address at Millenium Hall he called himself a “political scientist.”

          I think he has expressed strong disinterest in running for office and my guess is he will focus on media, as publisher, pundit, gadfly.

          Of all the Asian Tigers to visit, Singapore is the least like African countries (a city state with a dominant ethnic group and geographically designed for shipping.) I see your point about Switzerland and how it became the Mecca of every Federalist.

          I think before they visit how to develop a state, all these politicians should visit countries on “how to value life” and “how to stop murdering your people.” It is black-on-black crime on steroids what these people are up to.

          saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,
            Jawar Mohammed went to graduate school of Columbia University school of Journalism. He does fancy himself as “political scientist” because he has bachelor’s of political science from University of Maryland college park.

            Interestingly enough, he was sent to Singapore by Weyane for training.. 😂😂😂

            He loves theatrics and putting on a good show. At Millennium Hall handing over his laptop to Lemma Megersa as a symbol of surrendering his “weapon” and walking barefoot on Ambo city (where qerro protests began) had gotten him a lot of “….ohhhhh” and softened his image. Especially, with a lot of people, who still remember and held a grudge over some incendiary staff he had to say. He was asked about some of the harshest crap that he said, you know what his response was “I was young and and angry, I am evolved now..” Really? In 2012, he was too young? Ahhh…..

          • saay7

            Selamat Eyobai:

            Chockful of info, as usual: thanks!

            One pet peeve, though. You said “Interestingly enough, he was sent to Singapore by Weyane for training.. “. If he is of the caliber who is admitted to Columbia, wouldn’t you say it was his grades, and not Weyane, who was responsible for his advanced training?

            Pet peeve because the PFDJ always claims that the (very very few) Eritreans who leave the country on scholarship are thanks to its kindness and considers it not a brain drain but a form of betrayal when they begin to criticize it. Yeah, the same government that destroyed the only internationally recognized Eritrean institution cares about Eritreans advanced studies.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Oh..well. You caught me there. I agree…

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Eyoba,

            Shocking!
            1) You admitted
            2) You agreed
            3) You gave up too soon

            I don’t think high grade alone is a guarantee. If that was the case half of Ethiopia would be somewhere else by now. Some institution has to either push from here or pull from there to at least secure your expenses and other responsibilities.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Fanti Fantastic.. 🙂

            Here is the reason I think Sal is right. Jawar got exceptional students scholarship right out of high school. That is not an easy fit. Especially for someone, coming the backwater of Arsi, it’s not easy to be noticed and picked for scholarship, unless you have an exceptional talent or super connection and we all kniw Jawar did not have a connection

          • saay7

            Selamat all:

            If anybody is taking note in this Surreal Season:

            1. Eyob agreed with me
            2. St Fanti prompted him not to agree and fight.

            You are up to date now.

            saay

      • Ismail AA

        Hayak Allah saay and others,
        Is the gentleman named Mohammed Johar or Jowar. I thought it was the latter.

        • Saleh Johar

          Ahlan Ismaiil,
          Now my turn to complain. I posted the following comment more than an hour ago, but it disappeared. I think it’s the moderators blocking me 🙂 Here it is:

          Hi Ismail,
          His name is Jawar Mohammed. It could be a corruption of Johar. I think it’s like the Somali Aden for Adem or the Ishmal’eel in the outskirts of Keren for Ismail. Or Indrees for Idris. Hope that helps my dear Ishmal’eel 🙂

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Memhir,

            …and I was having trouble avenging Ustaz Ismail because I kept getting “the post has been removed” error message for a while.

            You really explained that one nicely Mr. Saleh Jawar.

          • Ismail AA

            Hayak Allah Ustaz,

            Thank you. Probably it’s a corruption Johar (Jahar where I grew up) as you wrote. My parents pronounce it Ishmal’eel. I never heard members of my household or the Saho native folks pronouncing it Ismail or Ismael. I was wondering why some from Keren area also pronounce it the way you mentioned. For example Leteab, the wife of my good friend Woldeyesus used to call me IshmaIéel.

    • Nitricc

      HI HTG: it means, there no more timeless conscription, there is no fear of war, you don’t have to think about crossing Sahara, so, concentrate on your duty, study, do well in school and go on with your life, unlike the other 30 rounds of NMS. On that sense, they have a different opportunity provided to them than the past.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Haile TG,

      Shame on me if I would expect despots and whoever represents them to emancipate themselves from ambiguity; it’s a tool they dexterously use. The guy had to be as opaque as he could otherwise he would not have been sent to deliver that message. What he told them was that in fact he had no message to tell; and that they should not be surprised if some one or he himself would come again and tell them “patriotism” has called upon them to double their enslavement time because after all the Woyanes have not yet gone anywhere. Thus, the regime peddles vague matters and leaves the rest for loyal surrogates to spin and re-spin it until the master again moves his lips in one way or the other.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    Lema megersa ,vice primer and others are in Asmara .

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Blink,

      They are the masters of your master, aren’t they?

      • Blink

        Dear Hameed
        I will reply in kind when you get fresh air , just go outside and breath and drink water

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Blink,

          Only iron serrates iron. Reluxe, inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. Repeat this about ten times and the result I hope will be your miniature brain will attain enough oxygen to function at least a little bit better and depart denial square.

          Eritreans are respected people who possess a very civilized and hamane culture. They are not greedy; like justice and abide by law. They hate injustices and abhor denial and lies. Eritreans respect a human being as a human being irrespective of his color, religion, ethnic, nationality, tribe or region. Eritreans are always loyal to their country and their people. They accept each other culture, traditions, religion and rights.

          It is very sad some remnants who were borne and brought up in Eritrea see them loyal to their roots. They always wedge and propagate hate among Eritreans. They have found in our difference in religion and language the most profitable commodities that meet their destructive intention. They claim they want to convert us Islam and Arabs at the time they yearn to join their mama which has more than fifty million Muslims. It is wonderful to run away from three million Muslims in Eritrea and crave to join more than fifty million Muslims in Ethiopia. This kind of contradiction has only one meaning: Alula militias remnants don’t want an independent Eritrea, their dream is to hijack Eritrea and annex (Medemer/Add) her to Ethiopia.

          Alula militias remnants are always against the unity of Eritreans. Sometimes, they consider themselves as supermacists who should rule the country without any contending groups. In another stances they see themselves as custodians of the Eritrean people. They are always busy to divide the people of Eritrea. They create all this excuses to drag Eritrea to Ethiopia. I hope Eritreans have taken the lesson the hard way properly. The enemis of Eritreans are homegrown enemies who change their color like a chamelon according to circumstances.

          • Blink

            Dear Hameed
            I don’t know who said they will convert you to Islam and I believe I am not in these group. Take me out of this . Second I don’t see difference in religion as all religion are the death of reasoning. Third who is Alula ? The guy divorced his wife and left her with three kids in order to get power from Yohannes . Now, I don’t like the people really they irritate me because I don’t want to admit their kinship in Eritrea. Damt you are making me racist again . About Eritreans , ahm Colonel Getaneh Haile could have said many things about Eritrean heroes oh well everything Gebru Tareqe Said was a lie. Ask MS about this and if you don’t annoy me , I will tell you more about Our heroes , I have hard copy to tell but not to in front of Meles admirers . Now listen you smart box of vib lies .

            I don’t believe TPLF saved EPLF in 1982 and I don’t believe Meles saved Eritreans in 2000 . Every thing was done by the sheer force of Eritreans and these who don’t believe in the Eritreans determination has a habit of being foreign addicted politics. In 1982 EPLF believe in the Eritreans determination to defend and kill their enemies at a gate , in 2000 Eritreans faced the sheer force of weyane on Every corner and make them pay a price for every meter and someone who spend his whole life in Sweden has no truth or what so ever to say the least about 2000 war against weyane.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi All,
    Any news on wedi Efrem et al?

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Hayat,
      No clue. What do you have? Perhaps you might wish to share.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Queen,

      No clue so far,,,but deep inside Ethiopia there are just unrest going on..

      “ዛሬ በሶማሌ ክልል የዶ/ር አብይ ወታደሮች በሃይል የአቢዲ አሊ መንግስት ለመግልበጥ እየተዋጉ ነው።”

      KS,,

    • Now inc.

      Hayat,
      What prompted the question?

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Now inc.,

        Unlikely to be due to concern for his welfare.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Simon,

          I think she is talking about the “musical chair” the despot reshuffles or dispose periodically to his cabinets.

    • Abraham H.

      Hi Hayat, have not heard anything about those guys; but as you know very well anybody’s fate is in the hands of one crazy man in that crazy land. They are just waiting like lame ducks and fearing the day when it will be their turn to disappear.

    • Hayat Adem

      it turns out rumors and better not sharing not to spread them more

  • kazanchis

    Hey pals,
    You just can’t teach an old dog new trick. I wouldn’t be surprised but I hope things will improve and people to people relation continues. May the naysayers fall! ✊🏾

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Girmay
    One little victory for NWNP lovers. But peace will reside soon. Tplf will pay for all misery it has created.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam girmay
    I told u already eco,

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam Awate
    I heard the ethiopian defiance force is moving in to reopen it. There is a rumor the settlers from tigrai r the one closed it.

    • Saleh Johar

      Tedros,
      Moving to Eritrea to open it?? If it is a rumor, please don’t spread it. And kindly slow down with the rumor 🙂

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam Saleh J
        No, they can’t cross eritrea border. I meant moving to the ethiopian side of the border.

        • Saleh Johar

          Okat Tedros,
          1) You mean there were no Ethiopian forces in Humera?
          2) Please read the news again–and see where the road is closed, then tell me where the Ethiopian forces will move to an for what purpose?
          3) Unless you are saying the road is closed from the Ethiopian side, and unless it is a rumor.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Gash Saleh J
            1, i heard the ethiopian army that stationed in mey kadera moving north side.
            2, i heard the settlers vow not to let any truck coming from gonder to cross the border.
            3, like i said it is a rumor.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Teodros Alem,

            Teddy, I heard a rumor that you made it up. You are the source, I am told. My source said to me in a “rumorous” way that he knows you did because you have done it multiple times before.

            Question: Did you or did you not make up the story? Just yes or no.

            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            The movement of the army and the settlers vow that we don’t let amara truck pass the border, heard it from someone i know, but for the whole thing , that was why i said a rumor. easy k h.

          • Natom Habom

            selam kim
            the settler your people do not want to leave they are like mejger
            what do we do ,soon the leave we can start build our wall

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Natom Habom,

            I am surprised by your knowledge of “mejger” (mejeger).

            I wouldn’t be surprised if some ‘keteme” amharas did not know what the word really means except when to use it, but coming from an Eritrean it is very impressive.

            Were you born or raised in Addis/Gonder or you read lots of Amharic books? (you can ignore this question if you think it is too personal).

          • Natom Habom

            Selam moderator
            tell me how the hell did my comment violate the guidelines
            anything that touch your cousin affect you right ??
            but when it come to vilify Eritrea its ok even you fist
            I thought you were the defender of free speech ,do you still thinking
            they will take you somewhere ?? wake up they are in hole so deep they will never see the light ever again .keep playing the game though you know you will never go to Asmara anyway
            THE GAME IS OVER FOR YOU TOO
            .

        • Simon Kaleab

          Teodros,

          I told you to enrol in a night school [Mitiku is already there]. It is called self-improvement.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            What matter the most for me is , not to be wicked nonsense like u.